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A recent memorandum authored by Attorney General William Barr announced a new “pre-crime” program inspired by “War on Terror” tactics and is set to be implemented next year.

Last Wednesday, U.S. Attorney General William Barr issued a memorandum to all U.S. attorneys, law enforcement agencies and top ranking Justice Department officials announcing the imminent implementation of a new “national disruption and early engagement program” aimed at detecting potential mass shooters before they commit any crime.

Per the memorandum, Barr has “directed the Department [of Justice] and the FBI to lead an effort to refine our ability to identify, assess and engage potential mass shooters before they strike.” The Attorney General further described the coming initiative, slated to be implemented early next year, as “an efficient, effective and programmatic strategy to disrupt individuals who are mobilizing towards violence, by all lawful means.” More specific information about the program is set to follow the recent memorandum, according to Barr, though it is unclear if that forthcoming document will be made public.

Barr also requested that those who received the memorandum send their “best and brightest” to a training conference at FBI headquarters this coming December where the DOJ, FBI and “private sector partners” will prepare for the full implementation of the new policy and will also be able to provide “new ideas” for inclusion in the program.

Perhaps the most jarring aspect of the memorandum is Barr’s frank admission that many of the “early engagement” tactics that the new program would utilize were “born of the posture we adopted with respect to terrorist threats.” In other words, the foundation for many of the policies utilized following the post-9/11 “war on terror” are also the foundation for the “early engagement” tactics that Barr seeks to use to identify potential criminals as part of this new policy. Though those “war on terror” policies have largely targeted individuals abroad, Barr’s memorandum makes it clear that some of those same controversial tactics will soon be used domestically.

Barr’s memorandum also alludes to current practices by the FBI and DOJ that will shape the new plan. Though more specifics of the new policy will be provided in the forthcoming notice, Barr notes that “newly developed tactics” used by the Joint Terrorist Task Forces “include the use of clinical psychologists, threat assessment professionals, intervention teams and community groups” to detect risk and suggests that the new “early engagement program” will work along similar lines. Barr also alludes to this “community” approach in a separate instance, when he writes that “when the public ‘says something’ to alert us to a potential threat, we must do something.”

However, the memorandum differentiates suspected terrorists from the individuals this new program is set to pursue. Barr states that, unlike many historical terrorism cases, “many of today’s public safety threats appear abruptly and with sometimes only ambiguous indications of intent” and that many of these individuals “exhibit symptoms of mental illness and/or have substance abuse problems.”

Thus, the goal of the program is ostensibly to circumvent these issues by finding new and likely controversial ways to determine intent. As will be shown later in this report, Barr’s recent actions suggest that the way this will be accomplished is through increased mass surveillance of everyday Americans and the use of algorithms to analyze that bulk data for vaguely defined symptoms of “mental illness.”

Barr also suggested the likely courses of action that would follow the identification of a given individual as a “potential mass shooter.” The Attorney General notes that in past cases individuals deemed a violent or terroristic threat before they commit a crime are subject to “detention, court-ordered mental health treatment, substance abuse counseling, electronic monitoring”, among other measures. Ostensibly, the new program would then apply these same practices to individuals in the U.S. that federal authorities believe are “mobilizing towards violence,” as Barr put it.

Bill Barr’s been busy

The memorandum, despite heralding a new era of Orwellian surveillance and “pre-crime” on a national level, has been sparsely covered by the mainstream media. One of the few reports that did cover the new Justice Department policy, published Wednesday by the Huffington Post, framed the new Barr-led initiative as largely positive and asserted that the “anti-terror tactics” to which Barr alluded could “help thwart mass shooters.” No mention was made in the piece of the threat such a program is likely to pose to civil liberties.

Furthermore, no mention was made of Barr’s clear push over the past few months to lay the groundwork for this recently announced program. Indeed, since becoming Attorney General under President Trump, Barr has spearheaded numerous efforts to this end, including pushing for a government backdoor into consumer apps or devices that utilize encryption and for a dramatic increase of long-standing yet controversial warrantless electronic surveillance programs.

On July 23rd, Barr gave the keynote address at the 2019 International Conference on Cyber Security (ICCS) and mainly focused on the need for consumer electronic products and applications that use encryption to offer a “backdoor” for the government, specifically law enforcement, in order to obtain access to encrypted communications as a matter of public safety.

Barr went onto say that “warrant-proof encryption is also seriously impairing our ability to monitor and combat domestic and foreign terrorists.” Barr stated that “smaller terrorist groups and ‘lone wolf’ actors” — such as those involved in the series of mass shootings in California, Texas and Ohio that occurred in the weeks after his speech — “have turned increasingly to encryption.” Barr later noted that he was specifically referencing encryption used by “consumer products and services such as messaging, smartphones, email, and voice and data applications.”

To overcome the resistance by some private companies — who do not want to renege on their right to privacy by giving the government backdoor access to their devices — and American consumers, Barr tellingly anticipated “a major incident may occur at any time that will galvanize public opinion on these issues.” Shortly after this speech, several mass shootings, including one at an El Paso Walmart took place, which again brought the issue to the forefront of political discourse.

As MintPress reported at the time, Barr’s uncanny prediction and a litany of other oddities related to the El Paso shooting left many answered questions about the FBI’s foreknowledge of the event. In addition, the tragedy did appear to serve as the very “galvanizing” event that Barr had anticipated, as the solution offered by President Trump in the wake of the shootings was the creation of a government backdoor into encryption as well as calling for the very pre-crime system Barr formally announced just last week.

The pre-crime dragnet takes shape

More recently, Barr and U.K. Home Secretary Priti Patel signed a data access agreement on October 3rd that allows both countries to demand electronic data on consumers from tech companies based in the other country without legal restrictions. It is the first executive agreement reached as part of the controversial Clarifying Overseas Use of Data Act or CLOUD Act passed by the U.S. Congress last year.

The CLOUD Act has come under fire from rights groups who have warned that the legislation gives “unlimited jurisdiction to U.S. law enforcement over any data controlled by a service provider, regardless of where the data is stored and who created it” and that this also “applies to content, metadata, and subscriber information”, including private messages.

Yet, Barr and Patel claimed that the data access agreement will instead “enhance” civil liberties and further asserted that the agreement would be used to go after “pedophiles” and “organized crime”, even though both Barr and his U.K. equivalent have shown minimal interest in pursuing the co-conspirators of child sex trafficker and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, whose sex trafficking network has been linked to both organized crime and the intelligence agencies of both the U.S. and Israel. Some have charged that the lack of interest on the part of William Barr is due to the fact that Barr’s father once hired the now deceased pedophile.

Notably, Jeffrey Epstein also had an apparent interest in pre-crime technologies, and was a key funder of the controversial technology company Carbyne911, along with former Israeli Prime Minister and close Epstein associate Ehud Barak. Carbyne911 is one of several Israeli companies that market their software products to the U.S. as a means of reducing mass shootings and improving the response times of emergency service providers. These companies boast numerous and troubling connections to the governments and intelligence communities of both the U.S. and Israel. Epstein, himself linked to the intelligence apparatuses of both nations, invested at least $1 million in Carbyne911 through a “data mining” company he controlled.

As was detailed in a recent MintPress exposé on these companies, Carbyne911 and similar companies extract any and all data from consumer smartphones for merely making emergency calls and then use it to “analyze the past and present behavior of their callers, react accordingly, and in time predict future patterns,” with the ultimate goal of smart devices making emergency calls to the authorities, as opposed to human beings.

Data obtained from these software products, already used by several U.S. counties and slated to be adopted nationwide as part of a new national “next generation” 911 system, will then be shared with the same law enforcement agencies who will soon be implementing Barr’s “national disruption and early engagement program” to target individuals flagged as potentially violent based on vague criteria.

Notably, following the El Paso shooting, President Trump has been mulling the creation of a new federal agency known as HARPA that would work with the Department of Justice to use “breakthrough technologies with high specificity and sensitivity for early diagnosis of neuropsychiatric violence,” specifically “advanced analytical tools based on artificial intelligence and machine learning.” The data to be analyzed would be harvested from consumer electronic devices as well as information provided by health-care providers to identify who may be a threat.

It is important to point out that such initiatives, whether HARPA or Barr’s newly announced program, are likely to define “mental illness” to include some political beliefs, given that the FBI recently stated in an internal memo that “conspiracy theories” were motivating some domestic terror threats and a series of questionable academic studies have sought to link “conspiracy theorists” to mental illnesses. Thus, the Department of Justice and “mental health professionals” have essentially already defined those who express disbelief in official government narratives as both a terror threat and mentally ill — and thus worthy of special attention from pre-crime programs.

Sleepwalking into a nightmare

This widely overlooked background is crucial to understanding William Barr’s recent memorandum and the massive and greatly underreported shift in the policy it heralds. Over a period of several months, Barr — aided by “private sector partners” as well as other current and former government officials — has been laying the groundwork for the system he has now formally announced.

Through the software products offered by companies like Carbyne911 and through Barr’s personal crusade to mandate government backdoors into encrypted software and products, Barr’s new pre-crime program already has the tools for the mass extraction and storage of consumer data by means of both private tech companies and public services like emergency call centers.

Through the already drafted plan for HARPA and its proposed solution to identifying “mental illness” via artificial intelligence and machine learning, this newly announced “pre-crime” program will have the means to analyze the mass of data harvested from consumer electronic devices from Carbyne and other means using vague “mental health criteria.”

While many of the specifics of the program remain unknown, the actions of Barr and others in government and private sectors show that this newly announced initiative is the product of years of careful planning and many of the tactics and tools it is poised to use have been in the works for months and even years.

In recent decades, and especially after the September 11 attacks, Americans have quietly traded an increasing number of civil liberties for increased government “counter-terrorism” programs and wars purportedly waged to “keep us safe.” Now, those same policies used to target “terrorists” are set to be used against ordinary Americans, whose electronic lives and communications are now set to be scoured for evidence of “mental illness.” If these untransparent algorithms flag an individual, that could be enough lead to court-ordered “mental health treatment” or even imprisonment regardless of whether or not a crime was committed or even planned.

As a consequence, William Barr’s coming “pre-crime” program is arguably worse than the stuff of dystopian science fiction novels and films as it not only aims to detain Americans who have committed no crime but will expressly target individuals based on their use of electronic consumer products and the contents of their communications with their friends, family, co-workers, and others.

Whitney Webb is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile. She has contributed to several independent media outlets including Global Research, EcoWatch, the Ron Paul Institute and 21st Century Wire, among others. She has made several radio and television appearances and is the 2019 winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism.

(Republished from Mint Press News by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Scotto says:

    Problem is: it won’t work, shooters will still get guns, they’ll still make explosive devices, use hazardous chemicals. As the government put the squeeze on, the mouse will improvise.

  2. Will he go after the scumbags in the military for killing people in foreign lands for absolutely no reason?

    Will he correctly identify the mental midgets that voluntarily join the mass murdering military that are so revered by the brain dead populace?

    I think not.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  3. onebornfree says: • Website

    Whitney Webb says: “In recent decades, and especially after the September 11 attacks, Americans have quietly traded an increasing number of civil liberties for increased government “counter-terrorism” programs and wars purportedly waged to “keep us safe.” Now, those same policies used to target “terrorists” are set to be used against ordinary Americans, whose electronic lives and communications are now set to be scoured for evidence of “mental illness.” If these untransparent algorithms flag an individual, that could be enough lead to court-ordered “mental health treatment” or even imprisonment regardless of whether or not a crime was committed or even planned…..”

    What do you expect? Some reminders on the true nature of all governments:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [via central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.” Albert J. Nock

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    Anyone expecting that laws like this would not be passed in modern commie/fascist USSA is not playing with a full deck of cards.

    Fuck Barr, fuck Trump, fuck “pre-crime” laws, fuck the “PATRIOT ” act, fuck government.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Angharad
    , @niteranger
    , @jsigur
  4. Angharad says:
    @onebornfree

    This all boils down to the destruction of America by Der ewige Jude. FYI Barr’s a mischling.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  5. onebornfree says: • Website
    @RoatanBill

    Here’s an idea: this law should be used to lock up all of the motherfuckers that wrote it, and all of the motherfuckers who voted for its passage into law, before they commit any more crimes against humanity.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    , @Anon
  6. Well done Whitney.
    I don’t know if You realize it but, You just connected all of the dots.
    Dots…dots….connecting the dots.

    I don’t believe in coincidences.
    However, I do believe in *cohenincidences*.
    Barr’s pre-crime program + tech from Barak’s Carbyne911 necessitated Epstein’s un-explainable flight to Teterboro, NJ and immediate arrest, which corrupt Howdy-Dowdy Comey’s daughter was pointman for complete inside local-NYC judicial info, in order to execute the total surveillance state, which was 1st-instituted a few days after 911 with, the Patriot Act. Barr & Barr’s daddy’s friend Epstein however was only a ‘theater prop’ whom was not the real Epstein. There are 0-zero mugshot/courtroom photos, zilch which are available to even verify Epstein’s identity.

    In the meantime, the Trump Reality Show continues un-abated.
    And the #MIGA, not #maga program continues.
    Funny, isn’t it?
    The same Ehud Barak speaking in the London BBC studios on 911, Carbyne911, Pappa Donald Barr & his substitute teacher/college dropout Epstein.
    Yeah.
    The Epstein-theatre d´absurd was part of cleaning-up alot of loose ends.
    This HARPA though is like Harpo Marx tooting his horn to me but in noway comical.
    And No. I’m not being a grouch. Oh?

    I’m 100% serious.
    My gut feeling is I’m right.
    Thanks Whitney.
    X-
    ps. please mind the narrative form I’ve used here. if the true story doesn’t sound perfect, well the msm bullsh_t story about epstein most definitely is worse.

  7. @onebornfree

    I did not see any mention of specific legislation in the article.

    All Congress-critters should be locked up now–for failure to protect American liberties from this abomination.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  8. Biff says:
    @Scotto

    Problem is: it won’t work, shooters will still get guns, they’ll still make explosive devices, use hazardous chemicals. As the government put the squeeze on, the mouse will improvise.

    It’s working perfectly. Using terrorists as a means to achieve an end is as old as the hills. Now admit your guilt while the government seizes your property.

    When you understand the concept of plunder it all becomes so simple, and everything else falls into place.

    • Agree: Richard B
  9. The corruption IS the totality of the Fed Gov. The Fed Gov has no purpose except to be corrupt. The law is worthless as it is now just an instrument of more corruption. Vote for a Democrat or a Republican and you’re voting for corruption.

    Why people keep voting is beyond me. No, I take that back – they vote because they are stupid. The whole country is full of stupid people that want something for nothing and willing to have their ‘leaders’ steal as much as they want as long as they themselves get a few crumbs.

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  10. Muslim Males did 9/11(FUCK YOUR THERMITE THEORY) the Goverment uses this to justify Police State Repression against NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS WHITE MALES….and to increase the scale of LEGAL IMMIGRANT MUSLIM MALES comming into American…….This is Trump’s Policy……This is (((STEVEN MILLER’S))) Immigration Policy…..

  11. Maria Butina, who was just released from prison and allowed to return home to Russia, would likely agree with Whitney Webb. In a recent TASS interview, Maria said:

    “I believe that the Americans are wonderful people, but they have lost their legal system,” Butina said. “What is more, they are routinely losing their country. They will lose it unless they do something.”

    So true.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  12. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Justvisiting

    You’re right, it has not become law…..yet. This is probably going to be re-run of the PATRIOT Act scenario.

    That Act was first dreamed up under the Clinton administration if I recall correctly.

    It failed to pass, but was there, already written, “innocently” biding its time on the back burner until an appropriate event would ensure its passage into “law”. That event,as you know, was 9/11.

    Which means that this new pre-crime horseshit might well be an indicator that another huge , 9/11 style false flag [or JFK style false flag], is already in the works, and that when it happens , the pre-crime horseshit bill will easily pass both houses.

    These fuckers never quit.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  13. Richard B says:
    @Scotto

    shooters will still get guns

    What shooters?

    • Agree: Kiel
    • Replies: @Scotto
  14. Richard B says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    “I believe that the Americans are wonderful people, but they have lost their legal system,” Butina said. “What is more, they are routinely losing their country. They will lose it unless they do something.”

    At this point it’s unrecoverable.

    Fixing things would be like trying to unscramble an omelette.

    I remember clear as day my reaction to the first time I heard about MAGA.

    I thought it was just delusional and perverse.

    It was like listening to a desperately unhappy and overweight man in his late 30’s, early 40’s, who was once a star athlete in high school, suddenly announcing to the world, in an attempt to cheer himself up, that he was going to go on a diet and start training for the next Olympics, without as yet even knowing what category he was going to participate in.

    In other words, it was just sad and depressing and made it obvious why they were yelping MAGA and “Dreamin’ Big!”

    The subtitle to MAGA is “We’re Done!”

  15. So, in order to catch 12 mass shooting bad guys [fictional number], 329,689,530 citizens will be screened?

    Let everybody buys arms, better for the economy and safety of the masses…

    Oh, wait!

    I got my logic all messed up.

    Lets take away guns from everyone [except those protecting ‘leaders,’ billionaires,’ ‘politicians’ and anyone who ‘needs’ such ‘protection’], as the best safety measure to safeguard said masses…

    Spit and howl at the perps.

    Be creative.

    Improvise.

    Whatever you do, stop being such a snowflake.

    BANG!

    Oops…

    • Replies: @Paul C.
    , @peterAUS
  16. Miro23 says:

    Thus, the Department of Justice and “mental health professionals” have essentially already defined those who express disbelief in official government narratives as both a terror threat and mentally ill — and thus worthy of special attention from pre-crime programs.

    An excellent article about the ongoing Sovietization of the United States.

    What’s interesting, is that the results will probably be the same. Reference the film “In Time”. An entirely separate elite will live in modern, attractive closed cities with high security entry passes, while the 99% (Deporables and a mass of immigrants) eke out an existence and just survive. Also the constant presence of electronic surveillance and undercover Gestapo/NKVD type agents (themselves ex-Deplorables) tasked with hunting down dissidents.

    • Replies: @Steve Naidamast
  17. @onebornfree

    It looks like the flick ‘Minority Report’ isn’t fictional at all. Just another message board platform to inform the masses [rub them the right way] of what’s gonna happen in the foreseeable future

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  18. @Richard B

    Not going to use the ‘LOL’ button, as it makes looks like I think everything in your comment’s a ‘joke,’ but this part:

    “The subtitle to MAGA is “We’re Done!”

    Had me howling like a wolf on steroids.

    Thanks for a good laugh.

    I know, the notion itself is sad. However, sometimes humor is the best remedy to keep on going.

  19. Harbinger says:
    @Scotto

    “Problem is: it won’t work……”

    It will and it is. The very fact this is being openly spoken about is testament to it. Sure, people will improvise, but how many? The overwhelming majority will conform. I keep saying this, but people should read Sir Bertrand Russell’s ‘Impact of Science upon Society’ which was a book compiled of a series of his lectures he gave, published in 1952. In it he speaks of how they’ll indoctrinate children to believe snow is dark grey and that people will eventually police themselves and more importantly, others.

    There will always be those who won’t conform, but they’ll be squeezed out of society and looked down upon by the very people they’re trying to free. It’s not the elites who the freedom fighters will have a hard time against, but their very own. Divide and Conquer has always been the name of the game and that’s why the elites are winning, because everyone ignores the man behind the curtain, instead going off on stupid wild goose chases and ending up in dead ends. The system is the enemy, yet the people rely on the system, work for the system and protect it. It’s like the sheep working for and defending the wolves.

    This is more installation of fear tactics. More ‘Big Brother’ state. There will always be people who will naturally rebel, as it’s simply built in to some people to fight tyranny and be free, but heck, with all the crap they put in food and water these days, along with vaccinations and msm/academia/Hollywood programming more and more people are turning into mindless automatons who haven’t a clue what’s going on, thinking everything’s just dandy!

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Scotto
  20. This oscillate between insanity and stupidity.
    And also it would require millions of annalists.
    But here I do notice certain fright of government of popular uprising,
    There is a proverb,
    Do not paint a devil on the wall because he just may become alive.

  21. Quote: “Do not paint a devil on the wall because he just may become alive.”

    Reply: If you don’t mind me asking [get stuck in Germany via Yandex], what’s the origin of this proverb?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  22. Biff says:
    @Harbinger

    people will eventually police themselves and more importantly, others.

    A friend of mine is a 911 dispatcher, and he told me about a third of the calls he takes are people ratting out other people for breaking the law.. It’s working…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  23. @onebornfree

    The Minority Report (2002) film basically a Scifi futuristic production in its own way is to close to this precrime thought policing that is going on. It will only get worse. Both the Repubs and the DemoRats hate freedom and Constitution. They are against all of us!

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  24. Anon[405] • Disclaimer says:

    He could expand the scope to potential gun murderers in general, and the entire black male population between 15 and 35 could expect to be visited and databased.

  25. Cyrano says:

    There was once a similarly retarded idea. During the Clinton administration, there was an initiative to keep the basketball courts open late at night, because the clever elites discovered that the blacks like playing basketball – I guess the idea must have downed on them while analyzing the racial composition of the NBA.

    So they figured, if they can keep them busy playing basketball 24 hours a day – they won’t commit any crimes. Was that clever or what? Even if they turned the whole USA into one giant basketball court – I doubt it that it would have solved the problem, but it shows a pattern of innovative “thinking”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_basketball

  26. Antares says:

    With every visit at a medic there is the usual chatting about unimportant things. That was over when I discovered that everything I said was written down. It may be something taken out of context but their successor will regard it as an established fact. With the current level of indoctrination this has become too dangerous.

    In recent decades, and especially after the September 11 attacks, Americans have quietly traded an increasing number of civil liberties for increased government “counter-terrorism” programs and wars purportedly waged to “keep us safe.” Now, those same policies used to target “terrorists” are set to be used against ordinary Americans, whose electronic lives and communications are now set to be scoured for evidence of “mental illness.”

    It always comes back. A crude state is impossible without crudeness.

  27. SafeNow says:

    Now that skepticism of the official version = mental illness / terrorist risk, I recant these skepticism heresies. Further, although the profile is secret, I can guess, and so I assure you: I will not go hunting, or bowling, or play video games. And, I get out a lot, I have friends, and they think I am cool. Please note these items next to my name. Thank you.

  28. alexander says:

    Dear Mr. Webb,

    Between 2001 and 2019 the American taxpayer has been asked to cough up over one trillion dollars to eradicate “terror”and “terror events” in the “homeland”.

    So how come there have been MORE “terror events” over the last “four” years…then there were during the entire FORTY YEAR period, before 9-11 (1960-2000) when our DHS budget was basically zero ?

    How is this possible ?

    (As I have mentioned before) it is like paying your plumber a 100 k to come in and fix the leaky pipes in your home….and when he is all done…..there are twice as many leaky pipes than when he started.

    Maybe the USA just needs to find a “good ” plumber because these guys (running the show) are an absolute “rip-off”, and the total pits.

    We throw a TRILLION DOLLARS at the problem, and it just gets ten times worse.

    I have also noticed (of late) a decided “shift” in the “type” of perpetrators of our “terror events”, but no real decline in the “amount” of events the taxpayer is forced to endure.

    Whereas, post 9-11, most of the “terror events” were assigned to various “Muslim agents” of different stripes and affiliations, now they are assigned to “white supremacists” and/ or “antifa communist radicals”….

    What is conspicuous , Mr Webb, is that the (post 9-11) “steady flow” of terror events has not abated, one bit ,only the identity (and background ) of the terror perpetrators has.

    How is it possible we have virtually “the exact same amount” of terror events, only the perpetrators are now totally different people, coming from wholly different places ?

    How is this possible ?

    (may I add) If Mr. Snowden is correct, then everyone in our country has been (more or less) “under surveillance” for quite some time, except , that is , for the mass rapist, pedophile, and sex trafficker, Jeffery Epstein who was sitting in prison awaiting trial .

    His DHS surveillance cameras “went black” on the very day he “allegedly”committed suicide to avoid having to testify against his “well-heeled” entourage of pedo- pal, child rapists.

    The trillions we have paid to DHS really brought home the bacon, on that one…that’s for sure….I mean what a complete Joke !….These DHS people are incapable of bringing to trial ONE known sex trafficker, even after he was locked in solitary confinement.

    As a consequence of DHS incompetence, there may be hundreds of “pedo-terrorists “roaming our streets….free (as birds) to rape and terrorize our underage daughters ….at will.

    Thank you, DHS , …Thank you.

    I say fire these bums…the whole lot…….they are complete , incompetent failures, at every level, to every single American taxpayer .

    Either that, or they are all charlatans and frauds.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Paul C.
  29. Svevlad says:

    I’m afraid this makes the entire population tainted. Purification is now mandatory, to be carried out via omnicide

  30. ‘They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.’

    Benjamin Franklin

    • Replies: @cassandra
  31. gotmituns says:
    @Angharad

    the hell with the mischling malarkey. a jew’s a jew and that’s awl their is two it;

  32. Paul C. says:
    @Daniel Rich

    So, in order to catch 12 mass shooting bad guys [fictional number], 329,689,530 citizens will be screened?

    I agree with your sentiment, but let’s remember there are no “mass shooters”. These hoax events are engineered by the minions of the Federal Reserve bankers who control the government and country. They create the event to introduce the solution. This is how they disarmed Australia and is right out of the false flag playbook.

    In the rare case that a shooting is real, the shooter is likely under mind control (MK Ultra). The point is, the criminals running the government are at war against the people. The engineered California fires are another example.

    They’re in the process of boiling frogs unless we do something.

  33. That:

    Yet, Barr and Patel claimed that the data access agreement will instead “enhance” civil liberties and further asserted that the agreement would be used to go after “pedophiles” and “organized crime”, even though both Barr and his U.K. equivalent have shown minimal interest in pursuing the co-conspirators of child sex trafficker and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, whose sex trafficking network has been linked to both organized crime and the intelligence agencies of both the U.S. and Israel. Some have charged that the lack of interest on the part of William Barr is due to the fact that Barr’s father once hired the now deceased pedophile.

  34. Barr, another worthless fatf–k. I’d like to add, “Just like his boss,” but suspect the Orange Goy is told by (((The Council))) whom to appoint.

  35. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Daniel Rich

    Daniel Rich says: “It looks like the flick ‘Minority Report’ isn’t fictional at all.”

    Yes, and that movie was itself based on a Philip K. Dick story first published sometime in the 1960’s.

    I repeat: if/when this crap becomes law, [as with the Patriot Act, after major false flag, no doubt], the new laws should first be used to lock up all of the motherfuckers who authored it, and all of the motherfuckers who voted for its passage into law, before they commit any more crimes against humanity.

    Regards, onebornfree

  36. @RoatanBill

    The elite don’t care if you vote or not.

    Should voter participation decline to the point where the “democratic legitimacy” of the elite’s governmental administrators becomes questionable, votes will be manufactured in whatever quantity deemed necessary to maintain the illusion.

  37. onebornfree says: • Website
    @niteranger

    niteranger says: “The Minority Report (2002) film basically a Scifi futuristic production in its own way is to close to this precrime thought policing that is going on.”

    Yes, it [“The Minority Report”movie]was yet another fine example of what is usually called “predictive programming”, [I’m sure you’d agree].

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Predictive_programming

    Regards,onebornfree

  38. Barr is a deep state operator and was involved in the Iran Contra affair and the running of guns into Central America and bring drugs out and into Mena Arkansas along with Bill Clinton and H.W. Bush, see the book Compromised, Clinton, Bush and the CIA by Terry Reed and see his videos on youtube.

    Barr is one of the most corrupt men in the country and in my opinion he helped transfer Epstein to Israel.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  39. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    Where exactly is the USA done? It is the most powerful, advanced, well armed and richest nation in the entire world. It has unequaled geostrategic advantages and a wealth of natural ressources.

    The USA is an Empire, not a republic. An Empire colonizes its own citizens first. Dick Cheney, Jacob Rothschild and William Barr are one class. Keep calm and understand the nature of the beast you are dealing with.

    The only pessimism I warrant is that financial and apparatschik oligarchies are actually worse than the blood-line aristocracies of old for many reasons. And the technology that eases the pain of oppression, is also used against us, to spy on us, censor us and, if ever SHTF for the elite, persecute us.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Richard B
  40. z says:

    Has anyone else in the USA noticed how many new cell towers have been built recently? They are not building them on high points and some are right next to each other, which makes no sense to me.

    Most of them have a generator with a fuel tank built into them at the base of the tower. Similar to the this setup.

    The concerning part to me is that I have noticed that most fire stations have them installed right next to them. Also the equipment I have seen them installing appears to be built very well, almost too well to be part of the US infrastructure. Starting to wonder if these towers somehow tie into the Carbyne911 stuff. There may be nothing nefarious going on with these towers, but for some reason I have a nagging thought that there is. Anyone else take notice of this or have any info on this subject?

  41. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @Biff

    It is the system of the STASI. It really is. And worst of all, it does work. Not all things in communist systems are disfunctional. Welcome to the USSR.

    But the direction was clear as day since the Patriot Act.

  42. @Daniel Rich

    Sorry!
    I have no idea.
    I did hear it many times still in Europe.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  43. Walter says:

    After 70 years of USA and many exciting adventures I know what my eyes have seen.

    #1 guns – everybody who wants one has one, they’re all over the place. This is ok.

    #2 Never, not once, has anybody pulled a gun on me or anybody I could see, except…

    #3 Except for cops. I have been threatened by cops with guns fingers-on-triggers (a no-no) Threatened dozens of times.

    #4 Cops hunt people. Get a copradio scanner and listen to the boys chase game.

    Barr’s little project has zero to do with guns… It’s about Power, nothing less.

    Power and Deception are a pair that go together…

    Deception?

    Yes> A new usage of ambiguity in the legalist charades and deceptions is made… witness this fragment>

    ” The Attorney General further described the coming initiative, slated to be implemented early next year, as “an efficient, effective and programmatic strategy to disrupt individuals who are mobilizing towards violence, by all lawful means.”

    The meaning may be that the “crime” is doing things that are legal if the cops imagine that they don’t like you…

    It may also mean the cops must obey the law while they go after somebody who has committed no crime.

    There may be other ambiguities of which I have not realized.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Harbinger
  44. DanFromCT says:
    @Richard B

    Televised MAGA rallies amount to bellowing, chest-beating chants of USA! USA!, after which rally-goers run back to their cars like sissies under a hail of insults and spit from pencil-necked Antifas. The odd thing is that Soros’s Antifas in their bad-boy costumes couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag but for their riot-costumed confederates in America’s metro police departments who provide the cover and vantage point for Antifas to act.

    These MAGA rally-goers are all talk and no walk like the Republicans in Congress, who in the latter case are insulted and spit upon by other American-hating shrews and wusses in the msm. Imagine what kind of emasculated, compromised excuse for a man you’d have to be, not merely to back down from a Nadler or Schiff, but to grant them and the msm the standing to overthrow the government.

    • Replies: @snail
  45. The idea that mass shooters will be caught by this way is total stupidity.
    All mass shooters are entirely normal people until some event in their lives makes them totally unhinged. That is to it and nothing else.
    My opinion is that there is a plan for absolute control of the people which is implemented step by step,
    regardless who is at steering wheel of the nation.

  46. @War for Blair Mountain

    By your own irony you prove Muslim males did not do 9-11. It was always a pretext to wage war against those who would get in the Jews’ way. Barr’s latest pre-crime initiative is more of the same. You cannot wish the thermite away. Scientists hold the physical substance in their hands, while Muslim male hijackers were always a media and government creation.

  47. Kestrel says:

    Circumstances preceding and following these “mass shooting” seem to follow a pattern.

    After the event, neighbors and family who knew the “unhappy shooter” claim they reported to the police / FBI erratic language and behaviors. Then again, after the event the FBI routinely confiscates security tapes within the school, university, office etc. and security tapes from businesses and banks across-the-street. These all disappear. Also curious is a consistent gap about how the “unhappy shooter” reached ground zero of the event — suggestive of assistance by shadowy enablers.

    Ultimately, months go by as a strange silence envelopes the tragedy with the FBI and law enforcement professing complete bafflement.

  48. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Walter

    Walter says: “It may also mean the cops must obey the law while they go after somebody who has committed no crime.”

    ‘Fraid not. Cops already have a little something called “qualified immunity”.

    See video: “The Cops “Qualified Immunity” Scam” : [halfway down page]:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2019/10/onebornfrees-special-scam-alerts-no-116.html

    regards,onebornfree

    • Replies: @Walter
    , @Agent76
  49. El Dato says:
    @Scotto

    The goal is not to suppress shooters (who are actually useful to keep the pressure on), the goal is control.

    It works.

    Through the already drafted plan for HARPA and its proposed solution to identifying “mental illness” via artificial intelligence and machine learning

    More like DERPY. This is going to be a fantastic mess, people being dragged off for no good reasons because “AI says so”. Already happens now even without AI with FBI sting operation where undercover agents push mentally troubled people to admit to planning a Big Boom. Once arrested when they receive the dud bomb provided by said agents, the FBI gets medals and the prosecutor gets a good case.

    • Replies: @Scotto
    , @the grand wazoo
  50. @War for Blair Mountain

    Israel and traitors in the ZUS government did 911, do some research!

  51. Harbinger says:
    @Walter

    “After 70 years of USA and many exciting adventures I know what my eyes have seen.

    #1 guns – everybody who wants one has one, they’re all over the place. This is ok.

    #2 Never, not once, has anybody pulled a gun on me or anybody I could see, except…

    #3 Except for cops. I have been threatened by cops with guns fingers-on-triggers (a no-no) Threatened dozens of times.

    #4 Cops hunt people. Get a copradio scanner and listen to the boys chase game.”

    It’s frightening isn’t it?
    It’s amazing when you say to people “You think it’s great to disarm the public but have an armed police force?”
    The police were created to not protect the public, but protect the elites from the public. That’s their purpose. Oh and yes, they also go out and breach the peace of so many people, whom they arrest, drag into a court room and either steal from them directly (fine) or indirectly (jail).
    The problem today is that so many police officers are ex armed forces, whose brains are mush. They’re gung-ho morons who just want to shoot everything, like they did in Afghanistan and Iraq. Here in the UK, it used to be the case that NO ONE who served in the military could become a policeman, due to not being able to police. Now many are, along with all being heavily tattooed and steroided up to the hilt.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  52. Walter says:
    @onebornfree

    Yes, sorta…it depends.

    However the meaning of the statement is essentially deceptional and remains…

    The meaning is of course, as I said, ambiguous.

    It’s, as you point out, without semantic value.

    And as I pointed out, they wave guns at innocent schmucks like me, at 70+ I have never been arrested, only beat up, kidnapped (by cops at gunpoint), and subject to numerous other crimes by cops.

    Like Dylan wrote, “Ya live outside the law, you must be honest.”

    Cops hunt people. They rape, steal, murder.

    I find that abhorrent.

  53. jsigur says:
    @onebornfree

    Just look at the success of 1930’s Germany while all others were slaves to the Jewish monopoly banking system. Problem is, when all you know is corruption it is not hard to believe that true representation can happen. You need leaders that care about the people and are competent, that is all of course now its hard to get in a position of being elected because the enemy controls who we can vote for

  54. jsigur says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Yea, they used planes to make buildings fall in controlled demolition fashion, even ones that were just in the neighborhood

  55. Thus, the Department of Justice and “mental health professionals” have essentially already defined those who express disbelief in official government narratives as both a terror threat and mentally ill — and thus worthy of special attention from pre-crime programs.

    This sounds like Kaczynski in Industrial Society and Its Future 20 years ago.

    • Replies: @Ari Paul
  56. anarchyst says:
    @Harbinger

    Your statement:

    “The problem today is that so many police officers are ex armed forces, whose brains are mush. They’re gung-ho morons who just want to shoot everything, like they did in Afghanistan and Iraq. Here in the UK, it used to be the case that NO ONE who served in the military could become a policeman, due to not being able to police. Now many are, along with all being heavily tattooed and steroided up to the hilt” is only partially correct.

    Actually the “rules of engagement” regarding the U S military are much stricter than that of U S “law enforcement”. In combat zones, one must be “fired upon” before being allowed to “return fire”. In addition, care is taken to avoid firing on those nearby, even at the risk of taking fire one’s self.

    Your description: “Gung-ho morons who just want to shoot everything” is an insult to the many fine people who serve under difficult circumstances. You would be surprised at the wealth of intelligence shown by those in our armed forces–not “brains of mush”, unlike what is evident in today’s American police departments.

    Steroid and other drug use is prohibited in the military and is closely monitored by random testing and is severely punished. However, steroid use is common in today’s American police departments.

    Contrast military behavior with the wanton, unnecessary murders by police officers here in the U S A, which, quite often only results in reassignment with no criminal charges brought.

    Look up “Philip Brailsford” and “Daniel Shaver” murder. Police officer Brailsford murdered Daniel Shaver while ordering Shaver to crawl with his hands behind his back–something that is impossible to do.

    In addition, Shaver had the words “your f*cked” engraved on the dust cover of his weapon–proving intent and merely more proof that he wanted to murder someone.

    Rogue cop Philip Brailsford was rewarded for his murder of Daniel Shaver, by getting rehired by his department so he could extract a pension. Give it time and he will probably be hired by another police department.

    It’s the “culture” of “the thin blue line” and “qualified immunity” shielding American police officers from the consequences of their actions that is responsible for today’s American police department attitudes. In addition, “command and control” programs which are taught by Israeli trainers are a part of American police officers training.

    We are all Palestinians, now…

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Thirteen
  57. snail says:

    “clinical psychologists”…
    Uh-oh.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  58. HT says:

    The same Bill Barr who charged the police officers in LA who tried to arrest Rodney King, with phony “civil rights violations”, after they had been vindicated at the state trial.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  59. Rurik says:
    @Scotto

    Problem is: it won’t work, shooters will still get guns,

    I suppose you’re being silly.

    No one with a functioning brain thinks the government is concerned about the ‘shooters’ or their victims.

    ‘Oh my! twelve people were killed in a ‘shooting’!

    Privately speaking to his Chief of Staff…

    ‘Btw, congressman, it seems that due to your policies, approximately two hundred children in Yemen died of starvation this month. Fourteen were killed in car bombs and other acts of terror in Iraq. Seventeen died in drone attacks on weddings and other gatherings in Afghanistan and Pakistan and elsewhere. Ninety were reported dead in Syria’s fighting. And thirteen died in Palestine.’ Not to mention the eighty or so that died due to your sanctions on Venezuela, and the seven hundred or so that died due to your policies on the African continent in general, and the Middle East in particular.’

    I’d say that’s a fair approximation of what’s been going on since (((9/11))). And all due to the deliberate policies of our ‘500,000 children dying of lack of medicine and clean water – is “worth it” – (((government))).

    What kind of sick, stupid imbecile thinks that a government that can deliberately impose mass-starvation (or worse) deaths – upon untold thousands of children the world over, for the crime of somehow being inconvenient to (((their))) agenda- (of the mass-genocide of Palestinians and Muslim and Europeans in general)…

    … would be oh-so troubled by the relatively tiny number of American children that are harmed by crazed lunatics run amok.

    In the immortal words of luminary George Carlin

    Pretending like the ((federal government)) cares about American’s welfare, is the height of supine idiocy.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX, Herald, Robjil
  60. snail says:
    @DanFromCT

    ” …Antifas in their bad-boy costumes couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag but for their riot-costumed confederates in America’s metro police departments who provide the cover and vantage point for Antifas to act.”
    ——————–
    Precisely.
    You’ve answered your own question as to why the MAGA crowds run back to their cars.
    If they fought back against the Antifa dorks, the cops would arrest the MAGA folks in a split second.
    What’s to be done?

    • Replies: @Richard B
  61. Anyone who thinks his/her activities online are private is a moron. Your ISP knows *everything* about you (and I’m not sure that using a VPN is much help, unless you use several in series….)

    Encryption? It’s good and dandy, and anyone can implement their own system if they so choose, but it’s laborious. This “legislation” is aimed at the idiots who are too stupid or lazy to do it (i.e., non-state actors.) If you need FB to communicate, you have no privacy and never did.

    Have you watched a TV show lately? They show nefarious criminals and/or spooks using their cell phones. You know, the phones that ping (and are thus triangulated) by nearby cell towers constantly, for which the log of location of that phone is kept as long as electrons are displaced on a HD bank in a server farm somewhere. The fictional trope of the “burner (prepaid) phone?” Yeah, well, you’d better have (1) paid cash, (2) in a store devoid of video surveillance, and never once turned on that phone in proximity to (A) where you live, work or hang out or (B) your “regular” phone. It’s all trivially connectable.

    All roads lead to a collapse of the federal government. We just await the day when people no longer collectively believe in the fairy tale that is literally quadrillions of dollars in IOU’s now in existence.

    In the meantime, people who spout off online are going to discover that anonymity doesn’t exist in that medium. If nothing else, a listening device aimed at your window can translate the noise of your keystrokes into a transcript of everything you write.

    If someone wants to know what you’re doing, you might as well live in a glass house with microphones everywhere inside, and speakers on the outside.

    We already live in a panopticon.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @peterAUS
  62. Richard B says:
    @Anonymous

    It is the most powerful, advanced, well armed and richest nation in the entire world.

    It is the most powerful (China and Israel are more powerful), advanced (In what sense? Technological? Not for long; besides technology is not enough to keep a country going), well armed (but not armed enough that Russia and China can’t be threats) and richest nation in the entire world (Wrong, again. The USA is the largest debtor nation in the history of nations).

    The truth hurts and delusions die hard.

    Happily, not all of us fear the truth or suffer from delusions.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  63. @Miro23

    Great movie! I own it and have seen it 3 times… 🙂

  64. Sam Coulton [AKA "S. S. S. M. Coulton"] says:

    William Barr = Definition of an Amerimutt

  65. Agent76 says:

    JUNE 6, 2019 Same Problem, Different Day: Government Accountability Office Updates Its Review of FBI’s Use of Face Recognition—and It’s Still Terrible

    This week the federal Government Accountability Office (GAO) issued an update to its 2016 report on the FBI’s use of face recognition. The takeaway, which they also shared during a Congressional House Oversight Committee hearing: the FBI now has access to 641 million photos—including driver’s license and ID photos—but it still refuses to assess the accuracy of its systems.

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/06/same-problem-different-day-government-accountability-office-updates-its-review

    MARCH 15, 2019 The FBI Says Its Photo Analysis Is Scientific Evidence. Scientists Disagree.

    At the FBI Laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, a team of about a half-dozen technicians analyzes pictures down to their pixels, trying to determine if the faces, hands, clothes or cars of suspects match images collected by investigators from cameras at crime scenes.

    https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/2019/mar/15/fbi-says-its-photo-analysis-scientific-evidence-scientists-disagree/

  66. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    The truth hurts and delusions die hard.

    Happily, not all of us fear the truth or suffer from delusions.

    Indeed. That delusion is that the USA is about to collapse, implode, or go Racial Holy War mode and from that apocalyptic event came the magic cataclysm to solve our problems in the West. It’s pre World War One mentality and leads nowhere. And the truth is that the empire with its hostile and predatory elite is, unfortunately, much more stable than many want to admit.

    Compare it to South Africa: 90% Bantu, communist, almost Somalia levels of systemic dysfunction, white farmers are regularly murdered and some politicians openly call for the genocide of the Boer. The state and power structure do not collapse.

    China and Israel are also not more powerful, Russia is indeed not a threat for the US Empire, China maybe in a couple of decades, but that isn’t guaranteed at all, and finally the debt of Japan is ridiculously higher than that of the USA.

    The truth is that the corruption in the entire West, the USA and EU alike, is so systemic, runs so deep, has been going on for so long now and the problems have mounted while the elite are deeply entrenched and have been winning the domestic political war for power they waged, that it will take decades to fix, if it’s possible at all. Or we will simply continue to experience a cenutry of late stage Roman Empire mode.

    Black Jesus Obama, MAGA Trump or “international law” and “human and constituional rights” aren’t coming down from heaven to save us.

  67. Scotto says:
    @Richard B

    The one’s who do the shooting?

  68. Scotto says:
    @Harbinger

    It will only work until the mouse gets more clever.

  69. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Thanks, Ilyana.

    What I got from the German web site; it meant something along the lines of, ‘Painting the devil on the wall brings bad luck.’ and sounds similar to the expression you used.

    Still don’t know the exact origin though, but it does sound European to me.

  70. TKK says:
    @dc.sunsets

    Snowden has an interview with Rogan about how the batteries now cannot be removed from mobiles (like the old burners) and also when your mobile is off , its not ” OFF “- it can still listen, track, ping.

    And putting an Alexa or Echo in your house- 5 star bad idea.

    That’s one of the reasons they made Green Dots illegal- untraceable cash. Anonymous transactions are extinct.

    It’s alarming when I am discussing – not web searching- getting my dogs teeth cleaned, and then I get ads for canine plaque removers. And we just accept it.

    Time to go full Luddite?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  71. Scotto says:
    @El Dato

    It only works for so long, hence my saying it won’t work. They’re smart, but not smart enough to supress indefinitely.

  72. Anastasia says:
    @Scotto

    It is not meant to identify the mentally ill. It is meant to identify what we used to call the intelligentsia in the Soviet Union who all eventually wound up in Siberian camps. This phony perpetual war on terrorism will eventually enslave us all

    • Replies: @Scotto
    , @Skeptikal
  73. peterAUS says:
    @Daniel Rich

    ….So, in order to catch 12 mass shooting bad guys [fictional number], 329,689,530 citizens will be screened?..

    That’s the plan.

    …Lets take away guns from everyone [except those protecting ‘leaders,’ billionaires,’ ‘politicians’ and anyone who ‘needs’ such ‘protection’],

    Yes.

    Chosen elites and masses to be ruled over with impunity.

    Won’t work.

    • Replies: @Herald
  74. renfro says:
    @alexander

    So how come there have been MORE “terror events” over the last “four” years…then there were during the entire FORTY YEAR period, before 9-11 (1960-2000) when our DHS budget was basically zero ?

    Because the Zionist can loot the US faster by keeping up the war on terriers.

  75. peterAUS says:
    @dc.sunsets

    Anyone who thinks his/her activities online are private is a moron.

    True. It depends, only, who is onto you.
    One CAN be rather private to everyone up to a level of a well-organized group.

    Your ISP knows *everything* about you (and I’m not sure that using a VPN is much help, unless you use several in series….).

    Actually, it’s not ISP. They cannot know much. And VPN definitely helps there.
    “Five Eyes” is the thing.

    Encryption? It’s good and dandy, and anyone can implement their own system if they so choose, but it’s laborious.

    Up to a point. A good exploit can take care of that. The thing, of course, is putting that exploit into your system and keeping it invisible.

    ….the phones that ping (and are thus triangulated) by nearby cell towers constantly, for which the log of location of that phone is kept as long as electrons are displaced on a HD bank in a server farm somewhere……

    Yes. As long as the device is powered on, that is.

    In the meantime, people who spout off online are going to discover that anonymity doesn’t exist in that medium. If nothing else, a listening device aimed at your window can translate the noise of your keystrokes into a transcript of everything you write.

    Pretty much. But, then, if they really want to know what you are onto they can always knock at the door.

    If someone wants to know what you’re doing, you might as well live in a glass house with microphones everywhere inside, and speakers on the outside.
    We already live in a panopticon.

    Yes.
    Having said that the part of the game is keeping the illusion. Keeping the managerial-therapeutic state going is a fine game.

  76. peterAUS says:
    @TKK

    Time to go full Luddite?

    I wouldn’t.
    Can’t be done, actually.

    The surveillance state is here to stay and keep expanding.
    Their problem is analyzing that data, and also acting upon it.

    Dissenters simply need to utilize that.

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  77. The article is judicious, balanced and thoughtful. It is written with style, too. Well done.

    Attorney General Barr anticipates that “a major incident may occur at any time that will galvanize public opinion on these issues.” I dislike the attorney general’s anticipation. I would like to dispute it. Nevertheless, I am not sure that I can dispute it. Is the attorney general wrong?

    I suspect that the attorney general may be right. If he is right then our liberty, already eroded, is in danger.

    I share the sense many of us share that the United States is slipping toward totalitarian dystopia. Totalitarian dystopia is very bad. I don’t want it … but I don’t want mass shootings, either.

    Admittedly, unless one is a black drug dealer or the like, there aren’t many mass shootings per capita in the United States now—certainly not enough to warrant surrender of our already eroded liberty—but that is just the attorney general’s point, isn’t it? “A major incident may occur at any time that will galvanize public opinion on these issues.”

    What a dilemma.

    Thanks for the article.

  78. Herald says:
    @peterAUS

    ….So, in order to catch 12 mass shooting bad guys [fictional number], 329,689,530 citizens will be screened?..

    That’s the plan.

    As several others have already made very clear, that is not the plan. The plan is not about shooters and is all about total control of each and every one of us. Barr’s measures are one facet of that plan.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  79. Paul C. says:
    @alexander

    So how come there have been MORE “terror events” over the last “four” years…then there were during the entire FORTY YEAR period, before 9-11 (1960-2000) when our DHS budget was basically zero ?

    How is this possible ?

    You answered your own question. The money has gone towards “manufacturing” terror events (hoaxes) in the US to further “an agenda”. The DHS and all the other agencies are part of the defacto gov’t not the dejure gov’t which has been abandoned and needs to be reconstituted. It’s a long story but the Founding Fathers agreed to contract some governmental services to the British, so they’ve had their foot in the door. Rothschild increased control in 1871 when the Constitution was modified to suit them. With the passage of the Federal Reserve and IRS in 1913 they’ve pretty much had full control. Along the way, politicians that were a threat: Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy and Nixon were assassinated or forced out of office.

    The current agenda is to disarm American’s and worse. With more and more hoax events, the criminal Congress will pass legislation at some point.

    Either that, or they are all charlatans and frauds.

    Bingo.

    BTW, it’s Ms. Webb.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @alexander
    , @alexander
  80. Harbinger says:
    @peterAUS

    Time to go full Luddite?

    I wouldn’t.
    Can’t be done, actually.

    Actually it can. Destroy the grid and you remove the eyes and the ears of the surveillance state, not completely, but enough to do a hell of lot of irreparable damage. The Orwellian state has only been applicable die to electricity. If they didn’t have it, they wouldn’t have the mass indoctrination of the msm.
    I know, they also have lots of other weapons – night vision, infra red etc, but it’s a start and a very good one. It would certainly piss everyone off, living in a city, were the whole electric grid disabled, but it would give those who knew what they were doing enough time to utterly obliterate their objective. Of course, not just the grid would have to go down, but all backup generators too.

    I’m actually in full agreement. The Luddites had the right idea and I wrote about this on another article. The reason they were so heavily punished was because they knew what industrialisation and thus the rise of technology would do to mankind.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
  81. Harbinger says:
    @anarchyst

    Actually the “rules of engagement” regarding the U S military are much stricter than that of U S “law enforcement”. In combat zones, one must be “fired upon” before being allowed to “return fire”. In addition, care is taken to avoid firing on those nearby, even at the risk of taking fire one’s self.

    While I can’t dispute that, I will state that the armed forces shouldn’t be there in the first place to be shot at.

    Your description: “Gung-ho morons who just want to shoot everything” is an insult to the many fine people who serve under difficult circumstances. You would be surprised at the wealth of intelligence shown by those in our armed forces–not “brains of mush”, unlike what is evident in today’s American police departments.

    Again, the fact that many serve and never question as to why they’re there, pretty much proves my point. I can’t really call them fine. I call them what they are murderers, assassins of the bankers and nothing more. If they really wanted to protect their country, they wouldn’t be off in foreign lands killing. They’d be in their own lands hauling the politicians up before firing squads along with the banking fraternity and other establishment talking heads.

    Steroid and other drug use is prohibited in the military and is closely monitored by random testing and is severely punished. However, steroid use is common in today’s American police departments.

    My statement was describing the police, not the armed forces.

    Contrast military behavior with the wanton, unnecessary murders by police officers here in the U S A, which, quite often only results in reassignment with no criminal charges brought.

    I think the murders of Afghans, Iraqis, Libyans and all peoples, in foreign lands they’ve invaded, GROSSLY outweighs the murders by police.

    Look up “Philip Brailsford” and “Daniel Shaver” murder. Police officer Brailsford murdered Daniel Shaver while ordering Shaver to crawl with his hands behind his back–something that is impossible to do.

    In addition, Shaver had the words “your f*cked” engraved on the dust cover of his weapon–proving intent and merely more proof that he wanted to murder someone.

    Rogue cop Philip Brailsford was rewarded for his murder of Daniel Shaver, by getting rehired by his department so he could extract a pension. Give it time and he will probably be hired by another police department.

    Quite. They’re a gang, a legal mafia, given carte blanche to do whatever they want. And when they do wrong they’re given suspension, on full pay and reinstated.

    It’s the “culture” of “the thin blue line” and “qualified immunity” shielding American police officers from the consequences of their actions that is responsible for today’s American police department attitudes. In addition, “command and control” programs which are taught by Israeli trainers are a part of American police officers training.

    Yes. Jews have been instrumental in the militarisation of the police forces, in the US and throughout the west. They have brought their unlawful war against the Palestinians into the west so that we would help them in their aggression. Another of the many reasons why Israel should be turned into a crater.

    We are all Palestinians, now…

    Not quite, but certainly on the road to becoming like. In fact, worse; just wait until the gulags start and the genocide begins, a continuation on from Russia, post Jewish takeover at throughout the last century, mixed with Stasi & NKVD secret police and surveillance.

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
  82. Scotto says:
    @Anastasia

    And as in the Soviet days of old, it will fail. It will fail because there are smarter people the general population, the government -as much as it wants to- cannot eliminate all the intelligent people in a society. Eventually, it will begin to rot from the head down and the government system will collapse. We’ve seen it happen again and again through time. I very much doubt this will be any different.

  83. Skeptikal says:

    welcome to the Third Reich 2.0.

    this is terrifying.
    Anyone can be put away on the say-so of “professionals,” many of whom themselves are half-baked and hysterically inclined.

    Clearly, in the cross=hairs will be “anti-vaxxers” and those who refuse other unwanted medical interventions.

    Orwellian indeed.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  84. Agent76 says:
    @onebornfree

    Good well informed post!

    Sovereign Immunity

    Sovereign immunity, or crown immunity, is a legal doctrine by which the sovereign or state cannot commit a legal wrong and is immune from civil suit or criminal prosecution, strictly speaking in modern texts in its own courts. A similar, stronger rule as regards foreign courts is named state immunity.

    Feb 24, 2014 Sovereign Immunity The king (government) can do no wrong, right? Over the years, issues arose where people could sue the government or political subdivision for negligence.

  85. I’ll read the article later, maybe. Barr is acting as if we are unaware of the fact that nearly every so called mass shooting from: Columbine to Sandy Hook, Ft. Lauderdale to El Paso and Dayton, does not have the left behind fingerprints of the FBI, CIA, Deep State.
    What’s the answer? I don’t know. Maybe just ignoring all of this, and living a moral righteous life, is enough, but I doubt it. They will never be satisfied.
    Could we really expect less from the son of Jeffrey Epstein’s mentor?

  86. Whitney Webb: “Yet, Barr and Patel claimed that the data access agreement will instead “enhance” civil liberties …”

    A careful distinction must be made between “civil liberties” and freedom. America’s commitment is and has always been to the former, not the latter. Freedom is man’s natural condition, which society restricts with its laws. Freedom is fundamentally anarchic, and if allowed, would make any society, and especially a highly technological society such as currently exists in the modern world, impossible. By contrast, “civil liberties” boils down to the permission of the government granted to individuals to act in any way they choose, so long as it doesn’t interfere with the good order of society. What constitutes good order is a matter of general consensus. In practice, it means you are allowed to conform; allowed to agree with the government. For example, if racism is thought to be inimical to good order, then the government will move to eliminate it using all the means at its disposal. Likewise with terrorism, as in the referenced mass shootings; likewise with pedophilia or any other thing in general disrepute. Sophisticated technological means of repressing such phenomena will of course be employed as they become available. That’s to be expected. Anything less would be inefficient.

    Thus it’s true that your civil liberties are actually “enhanced” when society functions more smoothly, and society becomes even more orderly. And this is something everyone wants and applauds, except perhaps the most radical. Everyone has a vision of the kind of society they want; of the kind of restrictions they would impose on freedom. Working out the details of who and what is to be suppressed is politics. Developing the technology to do it is engineering. But, no matter who wins the political battles, with each step forward in technological “progress”, freedom takes another step back. The end point is that ultimately, in a perfectly ordered society, there is no freedom at all, nor any police force, because there will be no crime. Everyone conforms willingly, joyfully. In such a perfected society, freedom is despised as slavery, just as Orwell foretold. Yet even when freedom vanishes completely there will still be plenty of “civil liberties”. And what could be better than that?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  87. peterAUS says:
    @Skeptikal

    ….Anyone can be put away on the say-so of “professionals,” many of whom themselves are half-baked and hysterically inclined.,,,

    That’s the plan.

    Will it work is another matter.

    At this stage, a smart person simply has to develop his/her own SOPs for such cases. Play the game well.

  88. Skeptikal says:
    @Anastasia

    Absolutely right.
    Use of psychiatry to sideline dissidents and in effect drive them crazy through years-long detention in psychiatric “prison-hospitals.” Of course living with the truly mentally ill didn’t help anyone’s state of mind.
    This is the truly evil aspect of the Soviet Union brought “home” to the USA.
    In a way the Third Reich was more honest with their “preventive detention” and “reeducation” camps (which was the original purpose of concentration camps such as Dachau). The nazi regime was up-front that the purpose of “protective custody” was to either “reeducatr” or eliminate political adversaries. Many of the “reeducated” chose the option to get out of the Reich ASAP while they still could. A similar effect in the USA would not surprise me.

    Will people be smart enough to ditch their smartphones?
    Those little snitches in their pockets and purses?
    Will someone invent some kind of software in a unit that you can stick behind your ear and it creates a protective zone around your face to foil facial recognition intrusion?

    • Replies: @Miro23
  89. Why pre-crime? We’ve known for 60 years black males commit half of all murders.

    • Agree: Alden
    • LOL: bruce county
    • Replies: @bruce county
  90. @El Dato

    ” … arrested with the dud bomb provided by the said agents”. El Dato, you have either forgotten or are too young to remember the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing. The FBI provided to the (fake terrorist, snitch) the bomb materials, the trucks, the bulding plans, and technicians to assemble the boms, drove them to the WT Center, and allowed the detonation to happen. All of this became known because the fake terrorist snitch recorded all of his conversations between he and his FBI handler. The recordings saved his life, and cast a spot light on the guilty, and what is really going on in government.

  91. Thirteen says:
    @anarchyst

    You’re absolutely right Shaver made my blood burn

  92. @Herald

    329,689,530 – 12 = 329,689,518 people who have done nothing wrong are screened for no reason whatsoever [of course, TPTB have very good reasons to do it, but won’t share it with you and me].

    • Replies: @Herald
  93. anaccount says:

    The media is okay with this because they know it criminalizes white people, especially those with a backbone – the system’s greatest fear.

    They’ll bag the occasional sand dervish to keep the cuckservatives asleep but you could call it the white pre-crime bill.

  94. @Sick of Orcs

    Didnt you get the memo???… We are not supposed to be noticing.

  95. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @snail

    Human-shaped devices holding degrees and specialisations, and generating rationales (diagnoses, and all) to pathologize any sort of powerless-ness, while endorsing power. Uh-ho indeed.

  96. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @HT

    The same Bill Barr who charged the police officers in LA who tried to arrest Rodney King, with phony “civil rights violations”, after they had been vindicated at the state trial.

    And the same Bill Barr who signed off on the murderous Ruby Ridge siege that killed Randy Weaver’s wife and son and seriously wounded him.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  97. Mike G says:

    Same ole tyrants, just another name, while they all just walk scot-free, Hilairy, Trump, the list goes on, we are in the beginning of the knowing that we are alone but connected to our our fellow patriots. Believe in our founders and why they put down in writing of who we needed to fear, the tyrants

  98. Mike G says:

    Trust in the plan, what a farce, how stupid do you have to be to believe that Trump had any plan other than that of those tyrants before him. Con the people to believe he has a plan and then appoint the same ole tyrants to his cabinet. Are you saying anyone didn’t see this coming? Trust the plan, what a fn joke.

  99. i’m not too bright but isn’t investigating a crime before it happens superfluous and a considerable waste of resources? one can’t be indicted for a crime one hasn’t committed yet so, other than harassment, what’s the point.

    and if the f.b.i. is to be involved in pre-crime endeavors shouldn’t there be a pre-crime investigation into the members of one of the largest criminal organizations in the world? just to kind of see what they’re up to other than subversion of the constitutional republic to which they swore allegiance.

    • Replies: @HSO
  100. TKK says:
    @Harbinger

    And just on a cultural note, the next time you are in the airport, watch the complete absence of human interaction. Everyone is held captive by a phone.

    You used to could sit at an airport bar and meet people, hear stories, a funny exchange over a drink, even a romance/one night stand can ignite.

    That’s over.

    Even the bartenders are on their phones.

    I read an article where it said our brain processes a text alert or ring the same as a threat- our limbic system- that ancient reptile part- can’t differentiate between that and an ominous rustle in the brush. As a result, what we believe is desirable is actually damaging our adrenal glands and neurological health.

    When I fantasize about going off grid, I just wonder how I would check on my elderly mother. CB Radio?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  101. @Oldtradesman

    “votes will be manufactured in whatever quantity deemed necessary to maintain the illusion.”

    Of course. I think that votes are already manufactured in the quantities needed to install whichever candidate is meant to “win”. In ’16, somebody miscalculated, apparently.

  102. @DESERT FOX

    That is what I’ve read as well. Just look at the guy. He looks like an asshole, doesn’t he?

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @DESERT FOX
  103. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “The fact is that the average man’s love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty — and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.” H.L. Mencken

    • Replies: @Antares
  104. Richard B says:
    @snail

    the cops would arrest the MAGA folks in a split second.

    And Trump would be on the side of the cops.

    He will not, under any circumstances, defend his own base.

    And yet they continue to go to his rallies.

    What’s to be done?

    If anything could be done we wouldn’t be in the situation we’re in today.

    Barring a miracle, and it would take one, the USA is finished.

    • Agree: brandybranch
  105. Well, this system should do well at stopping Black mass shootings, the overwhelming type. Like at Texas A&M Commerce, whatever that animal farm is. Twerking and Tweeting contest. 750 Blacks, one shooter, everyone knew him, but not his name. Witnesses are not cooperating with the police.

  106. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Twodees Partain

    Just look at the guy. He looks like an asshole, doesn’t he?

    Well he sure does look like one after reading this article.

    Really, really scary what these bastards are up to.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  107. Miro23 says:
    @Skeptikal

    This is the truly evil aspect of the Soviet Union brought “home” to the USA.
    In a way the Third Reich was more honest with their “preventive detention” and “reeducation” camps (which was the original purpose of concentration camps such as Dachau). The Nazi regime was up-front that the purpose of “protective custody” was to either “reeducate” or eliminate political adversaries. Many of the “reeducated” chose the option to get out of the Reich ASAP while they still could. A similar effect in the USA would not surprise me.

    It wouldn’t surprise me either. People dearly wanted to leave the Soviet Union for the West but were soon fenced in.* So when the US itself goes full Soviet totalitarian, it will get its border wall – except that it’ll be there to keep the Anglo worker drones in, rather than the Mexicans out.

    At least the Nazi regime allowed the various dissidents/untermenschen to leave – which they did – mostly to the US.

    * When the prison walls of the Soviet Union fell (e.g. in Berlin) the Easterners expected to receive all the freedom and consumer goods, while of course maintaining their minimal Soviet levels of effort (“they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work”).

  108. Antares says:
    @Twodees Partain

    That has actually to do with domestication.

  109. @Twodees Partain

    To top it all off, he is a zionist and his father is a Jew.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  110. @TKK

    Man do I see your point. Just set the phone to turn the sounds off for several preset hours every day, whether early morning, late night, whatever.

    No text alerts or email alerts ever, at any hour, unless it’s a rare urgent situation.

    We recently started having a day every week where we don’t use our iPads or phones and don’t access the internet for any non-emergency reason.

  111. cassandra says:
    @Philip La France

    ‘They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.’

    Ben assumed that a choice was involved… In today’s state, the policy is first implemented and justified afterward. Acceptance by the public is essentially a rubber stamp, which is guaranteed by an appropriate PR campaign.

    Getting with the program is therefore the safe course. It’s invariably socially approved, since the mainstream story is presented as if it were the result of sophisticated analysis and virtuous attitude. Resisting elite programs, on the other hand, brings down approbation of various types, such as being called a racist, an anti-Semite, a Putin-lover, a deplorable, or a “conspiracy theorist”.

    Of course, that’s just the first-line hazard.

  112. onebornfree says: • Website

    And now, on top of all that [the pre-crime crap], this:

    “President Donald Trump on Monday said the Justice Department is preparing to launch a sweeping crackdown on crime that he named “the surge,” a term commonly associated with the George W. Bush administration’s decision to send tens of thousands of additional troops into Iraq in 2007……..The president did not provide any details on the plan but said it is going to be “very dramatic.”………“And you’re going to see tremendous results very quickly,” Trump added…………:“To help keep you safe, I’ve made $600 million-worth of surplus military equipment available to local law enforcement,” Trump told the audience of police chiefs……”

    Trump Announces Plans for Nationwide Police Crackdown, More Militarized Police
    https://thefreethoughtproject.com/trump-announces-plans-for-nationwide-police-crackdown-more-militarized-police/

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  113. @DESERT FOX

    Yes, a typical Trump appointee, in other words.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  114. @lavoisier

    I have a theory about politicians and bureaucrats: The more one of them looks like an asshole, the more evil they will get up to if allowed into office. Look at Dick Cheney. He definitely looks like an asshole, of the bad tempered, arrogant sort, and he set the standard for evil behavior, surpassing even Henry Kissinger for blatant, intentional evil doing.

    Donald Rumsfeld looks like an asshole, of the clueless spaz variety, but he definitely got up to some evil once he got his first job in government. Bolton looks like an asshole, of the blustering, frantic kind, and he’s saturated with evil intentions and deeds.

    If I see a candidate and I think, “God damn, look at that asshole”, then I know that he/she is going to pull some evil shit in office. That’s my theory. It seems to prove true more often than not.

  115. @onebornfree

    The ZUS gov is a criminal/terrorist kabal , ran for criminals and terrorists for criminals and terrorists!

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  116. Fresh pavement for the road to hell.

  117. Herald says:
    @Daniel Rich

    TPTB have very good reasons to do it, but won’t share it with you and me].

    Yes, perhaps I was being rather harsh and on reflection I suppose I really know, that it’s all being done for our own good. Makes me feel kinda grateful that they care so much.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  118. alexander says:
    @Paul C.

    Right, Ms. Webb,…not Mr. Webb.

    Got it , my mistake.

    May I say , the whole notion of deceiving taxpayers out of their own money , for any reason, is shameful, disgraceful and absolutely criminal.

    But the worst of all reasons has to be,….. to commit war of aggression.

    I think every single individual , think tank, media outlet, and journalistic enterprise who conspired to defraud the US taxpayer into launching the illegal Iraq war of 2003 , should have all their assets seized, to pay down the cost of the war they lied us into.

    I think this is something which must be done.

    Don’t you ?

    • Replies: @Harbinger
    , @Paul C.
  119. alexander says:
    @Paul C.

    What this country needs is NOT more Orwellian , “quasi-fascist” “pre-crime” , Mashugana.

    What this country needs is “Post-Orwellian”, across the board, “Accountability” for the despicable war fraud committed against us, by our deceitful “ruling elites”.

    In my book , they owe the US taxpayer “trillions” in war costs, because those costs were born from their “deceptions”.

    Each and every one of them should be forced to…PONY UP !

    Let the warmongering “asset class” cough up THEIR assets to pay for THEIR lies and THEIR wars.

    We, the people, shouldn’t have to.

  120. onebornfree says: • Website
    @DESERT FOX

    “The ZUS gov is a criminal/terrorist kabal , ran for criminals and terrorists for criminals and terrorists!”

    Hah! Tell me something I don’t know! 🙂

    As I constantly remind everyone at my blog :

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [via central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.”

    But very few seem to ever “get it ” 🙁

    And so it goes…..

    Regards, onebornfree

  121. Harbinger says:
    @alexander

    “I think every single individual , think tank, media outlet, and journalistic enterprise who conspired to defraud the US taxpayer into launching the illegal Iraq war of 2003 , should have all their assets seized, to pay down the cost of the war they lied us into.”

    I’m sure many people would agree, but just how do you propose doing that? The police are corrupt. The judiciary are corrupt. The elites, including those in the msm, academia, TV, Hollywood, politics etc are all untouchable. You’re never, in a month of Sundays, going to ever have a politician come in for the people. Sure, they’ll talk about ‘draining the swamp’ but they’re just more snake-oil salesmen and women.

    I hate to burst your bubble but the people of the US and the rest of the west have two choices they can make:

    1. Rebel. Take up arms and start uncivil rebellion against those in charge. And I mean everything, which I can’t actually state here or else this post won’t be published, but it certainly involves cutting off every one of the hydra’s many heads, essentially obliterating EVERY institution that currently is in place. This will ultimately lead to your freedom, but will overwhelmingly lead to many, many deaths.

    2. Do nothing and wait for your saviour in politics and watch as the prison walls are eventually finished.

    Yuri Bezmenov, Soviet defector, in many of his speeches spoke of the end goal of the communist regime. It will get to the point where conflict is inevitable. This will either be civil war or war against an invading force. The overall goal is global domination.
    The state is what the state is – an organisation created solely for the total control over the populous, by an anarchic-oligarchy, who make the laws but are above them.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  122. alexander says:

    I understand what you are saying and on most counts, I agree.

    But you do not understand where we are as a nation , solvency wise.

    You should.

    Our “overspending” on illegal wars due to neocon war fraud (since 2003) has drained our coffers of seventeen trillion dollars in a mere sixteen years.

    By comparison, our entire accumulated national debt from all the wars we fought between 1776 and the year 2000 was a mere 5.6 trillion at the end of last century.

    The DEBT created by our Neocon war fraudsters (over the past 16 years) is not only “unprecedented” in U.S. history….it is so “heinous”…and so “humongous”…it has actually become an “existential threat” to the future of the United States.

    This is not an opinion, Harbinger, this is a FACT.

    Our heinous debt, due to pernicious “Neocon War Fraud’ , is the greatest national security threat our country has ever faced .

    It is that bad, harbinger.

    It has gotten to the point where it may not even be a matter of choice for the country, the taxpayers, or our government , as to what to do.

    Accountability for treasonous war fraud , and the seizure of neocon oligarch assets, may be the “only” way our nation has, to rescue its (continued ) role as the worlds reserve currency.

    If the world abandons our dollar as its currency of choice…we are done…The United States as you know it…is “toast”.

    We are not there “yet”…but we are so close …… it is not even funny.

    By lying us into obscenely expensive “perpetual wars of aggression ” our establishment elites have failed the nation.

    Their lies have created a solvency crisis so massive it has now become an “existential threat” to the future of the country.

    Shameful……beyond words.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  123. Ari Paul says:
    @Morton's toes

    Exactly. Kaczynski’s two books are also well worth reading: “Technological Slavery” and “Anti-Tech Revolution.”

  124. Paul C. says:
    @alexander

    I think every single individual , think tank, media outlet, and journalistic enterprise who conspired to defraud the US taxpayer into launching the illegal Iraq war of 2003 , should have all their assets seized, to pay down the cost of the war they lied us into.

    Completely agree. Our taxes should be returned to us while we’re at it. The intent of the Founding Fathers was no direct taxation. This changed with the 16th amendment put forth by the bankers, which many feel was never properly ratified and thus direct taxation is still unconstitutional.

    I agree with Harbinger’s response, # 121. The only thing I’d add is that the Federal Reserve is the head of the snake and therefore dismantling it should be priority #1 of the rebellion. These private banking families have hijacked not just the US, but the world. The birth certificate makes us sureties for their fictitious debt. The US was the largest creditor nation prior to the FED (1913). Now we’re supposedly $22T in debt. Every country is in debt, which defies economics short of a criminal parasitic banking cabal.

    The complete indoctrination of humanity is the other challenge we’re up against. We’ve been lied to about everything, but unfortunately waking up others to this reality is not easy.

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @Daniel Rich
  125. @Herald

    Quote: “Yes, perhaps I was being rather harsh and on reflection I suppose I really know, that it’s all being done for our own good. Makes me feel kinda grateful that they care so much.”

    Reply: Every first day of the month, I slaughter a headless chicken in their honor…

    That’s how happy I am.

  126. alexander says:
    @Paul C.

    Good points, really good.

    But there is something important you need to understand.

    We, the US taxpayers, have not paid for our Neocon wars. Neither Bush, nor Obama ever raised our taxes to account for their illegal war(s) expenditures.

    The costs of their illegal wars were drawn down against future generations of taxpayers with money they “printed” .

    This is why our national debt has “exploded” from 5.6 trillion (in 2000) to a whopping 22.6 trillion today.

    All the money for our illegal wars was “taken” from future generations of taxpayers (who had no say in the matter)

    Think about it.

    If Bush Jr. had raised our taxes 30 k each, to pay for the Neocons illegal “Iraq war “, the revolt from the taxpayers would have been so furious, the war would have been over before it began.

    They knew they couldn’t ask us , because we wouldn’t do it…..so they stole the money from our future.

    If our illegal wars only cost (lets say) 50 billion dollars, then printing and borrowing that money from future Americans would have hardly raised an eyebrow (cost wise).

    50 billion dollars out of a 21 trillion GDP is such a small percentage, the taxpayers would hardly notice it.

    But our pentagon has NOT spent 50 billion, they have spent TWENTY ONE TRILLION over the past 20 years,….(more than half of which) on our stupid, criminal , perpetual wars.

    21 trillion is not a “small percentage” of our GDP..it is our ENTIRE GDP….

    Our Neocons, by lying us into illegal war , have created a solvency/debt crisis so catastrophic, nobody has a CLUE what to do about it.

    This is a “supreme tragedy” for the United States.

    It is “heartbreaking”…… just to think about it.

  127. @Paul C.

    Quote: “The complete indoctrination of humanity is the other challenge we’re up against. We’ve been lied to about everything, but unfortunately waking up others to this reality is not easy.”

    Reply: to paraphrase JFK, “We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win, and the others, too.”

    TPTB know very well how to play the game of ‘cat and mouse,’ that’s why I’m a ‘honey badger,’ to level the playing field a bit :o] – Link to youtube

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  128. Harbinger says:

    “I understand what you are saying and on most counts, I agree.

    But you do not understand where we are as a nation , solvency wise.”

    This is irrelevant to the action that you promoted in your earlier reply, quote:

    “I think every single individual , think tank, media outlet, and journalistic enterprise who conspired to defraud the US taxpayer into launching the illegal Iraq war of 2003 , should have all their assets seized, to pay down the cost of the war they lied us into.”

    I asked the question and stated:

    “I’m sure many people would agree, but just how do you propose doing that? The police are corrupt. The judiciary are corrupt. The elites, including those in the msm, academia, TV, Hollywood, politics etc are all untouchable. You’re never, in a month of Sundays, going to ever have a politician come in for the people. Sure, they’ll talk about ‘draining the swamp’ but they’re just more snake-oil salesmen and women.”

    You write of “overspending on illegal wars”.
    You write of “accountability for treasonous war fraud”
    You write of “seizure of neocon oligarch assets”
    Again how?
    Who will do this?
    The government?
    The judiciary?
    The police?
    The armed forces?

    Yes, we all know how bad the situation is. And the situation is how it’s supposed to be. The US has been deliberately hijacked. But back to the main point. Who is going to bring these people to justice?
    You WILL NOT find any journalist, nor editor who will write of the corruption and expose the wrongdoers for fear of blacklisting and worse execution made to look like suicide.
    You WILL NOT find any policeman or police chief who will arrest any of them.
    You WILL NOT find any attorney and judge will prosecute them in a court of law.

    Unless you can somehow, figure out a way of executing the aforementioned, I’m extremely sorry to have to state that the US is utterly, totally and completely f*cked!
    The only chance you have is for a complete, all out, grass roots rebellion by the people against the establishment, with the armed forces on their side. Look at the USA? It’s a heavily divided country. It’s a country of people incredibly awake against a majority of people, totally asleep who haven’t a clue what’s going on, other than the lies the msm have been feeding them all their lives.
    You have to somehow unite as a people and fight back and I really can’t see that happening. It’s only going to change when things get really, really bad. When employment is incredibly high. When Muslims and blacks are murdering whites en mass. When all whites wake up and realise what and who is behind the hell, will be the only time you have a chance of actually uniting and doing something about it. That’s going to take a while and you won’t be guaranteed victory. There will, by that time be more non Europeans in the US, just like throughout Europe. You will very likely be a minority before you actually take action and that’s going to immediately put you at a disadvantage.
    There will also be nothing to stop your ruling classes from importing in foreign fighters as well, to fight against you.

    I don’t think you actually understand the gravity of the situation. Knowing what needs to be done and actually implementing it are two completely different things. It’s not so much about “leading the horse to water” as you can’t even get to that stage because the horse is attacking you for being white.
    The European peoples are currently being demonised by the msm, HEAVILY. Worse, European peoples are siding with the non Europeans to attack their own. NO other race, on this earth would ever do that. You would never, for example, see blacks, walking down the street, alongside whites shouting at other blacks, calling them ‘niggers’. You have, sadly seen whites do this with Black Lives Matter, denigrating their own people.

    The real struggle that those awake have, is actually getting the heavily indoctrinated sheep to see common sense. Currently, identity politics is the name of the game and a visceral hatred of European people is ongoing throughout the west.
    Until that happens, you can’t even contemplate attacking those responsible for all the chaos and whom you call to be arrested and their assets seized. You have to make everyone see whom their real enemy is in order to fight that enemy. At the moment, if you did attack the people responsible the msm would instantly attack you, leading to the deadhead majority following suit.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
    , @alexander
    , @Anon
  129. Paul C. says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Good stuff honey badger.

    JFK was awesome. A NWO wrecking ball. I believe that he believed in the moon endeavor.

    Truth is we never went. A subject for another thread though.

  130. Paul C. says:
    @Harbinger

    Very insightful, excellent.

    It’s only going to change when things get really, really bad.

    Unfortunately, but I hope we’re wrong.

  131. Miro23 says:
    @Harbinger

    2. Do nothing and wait for your saviour in politics and watch as the prison walls are eventually finished.

    This is the targeted outcome of the Neo-Bolsheviks. Liberties are removed in small increments (with the veneer of legality) until the US is fully totalitarian. The end result, is the “hunt the dissents game”, defined as “counter-terrorism” or “keeping the public safe”

    The basic fact, is that a small and powerful elite are at risk under Democracy. The can only find security for themselves under totalitarianism (which of course is sold as “keeping you safe” and “looking after the people”).

    However, ultimate power does rest with the military. For example, after the death (murder?) of Stalin, Beria moved to grab absolute power, but Khrushchev with top Russian generals personally detained him (and arranged for his execution). In these situations final decision making rests with the military (not the public – even if they’re armed).

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  132. alexander says:
    @Harbinger

    I would say that over 70% of Americans are (now) aware that we were lied into the Iraq war, and that our media was as guilty as anyone else, of that deception.

    May I add that I was a true believer at the time, I believed everything I was told..the WMD’s , the mushroom clouds, the imminent threat, Saddam’s Anthrax in Tom Brokaw’s office, the yellow cake from Niger, Saddam’s links to Al Qaeda…I believed it all because I could never imagine, in a million years, any American who would actually be so “evil” as to LIE us into WAR.

    I was out of my seat “cheering” when I watched the statue of Saddam fall, on the nightly news.

    It took me over “eight years” to actually absorb the reality that we were “deceived”as a nation, into committing that crime. I simply refused to believe that anyone could be so malevolent as to do that to us.

    I would say that 100% of American taxpayers do not enjoy being lied into war.

    They do not like it, at all.

    I would say that 100% of American taxpayers do not enjoy being defrauded out of their money.

    They do not like it, at all.

    I would say that 100% of our “Police officers”, our “Firemen”, our “school teachers”, and our “Judges”, feel the EXACT same way .

    ……to the LAST man.

    We are Americans, ALL….

    The fact the USA is now 23 trillion dollars in catastrophic debt, because our “elites” chose to deceive us into committing the supreme crime of war of aggression, does not sit well, with any one of the 320 million Americans alive today.

    The only thing that has prevented an open rebellion of 100’s of millions of Americans rising up, is that no one has been asked to PAY.

    If every single taxpayer got the bill for 200 k tomorrow, to pay for the cost of the wars we were lied into by our”ruling elites” ….there would be absolute pandemonium, and our police officers would be outraged MOST OF ALL…..( because they know the law better than we do).

    Every single congressman and senator , across the country ,would be fielding MILLIONS of calls, around the clock, from enraged citizens.

    Every phone to the White House would be swamped, 24/ 7. with outcries from furious taxpayers, demanding “accountability” right away…

    Within 24 hours, the President would be forced to start making arrests…FORCED TO DO IT …our “elites”(who lied us into war) would start dropping like flies……like “flies”.

    Why do I “believe” this ?

    Just ask “yourself” how many members of our police department and/or our national guard wants to pony up 200 k each, of their hard earned dough, to pay for illegal wars they were defrauded into.

    NOT ONE OF THEM.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Skeptikal
    , @Harbinger
  133. Biff says:
    @alexander

    I could never imagine, in a million years, any American who would actually be so “evil” as to LIE us into WAR.

    Well, you should brush up on your history of Abe
    Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and many others.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @alexander
  134. @Biff

    The zionists took over the money creation in 1913 with their privately owned FED and IRS and then the foreign wars started and never stopped, all for the zionist banking kabal and now America is a slave plantation of zionist Israel.

  135. @Miro23

    Khrushchev did work with Bulganin. Beriya was head of KGB (Jew) He was hanged immediately after arrest on a make-up hanging tree right in front of his office.

    • Replies: @Poco
  136. utu says:

    ‘In 50 years I’ve not seen such injuries in a suicidal hanging’: Jeffrey Epstein’s body bore signs of homicide by strangulation NOT suicide, claims pathologist who has examined 20,000 bodies but examiner who ruled it a suicide stands by her findings
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7630343/Epsteins-body-bore-marks-strangulation-claims-medical-examiner-50-years-experience.html

    Corrections officers say they don’t understand why no one has been charged with Whitey Bulger’s murder, one year after the Boston mobster was beaten to death with a lock in a sock in prison
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7630623/Corrections-officers-dont-understand-no-one-charged-Whitey-Bulgers-murder.html

  137. alexander says:
    @Biff

    If you want to cut a check for “23 trillion” to the United States Government, on behalf of the American people , who were defrauded out of all that money due to pernicious Neocon “war fraud”……

    Knock yourself out !

  138. utu says:

    Jeffrey Epstein’s autopsy report summary is released with pictures showing his bone fracture after pathologist claims the millionaire pedophile’s body bore signs of homicide by strangulation NOT suicide

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7632509/Jeffrey-Epsteins-autopsy-report-summary-released-pictures-showing-bone-fracture.html

    “The 85-year-old forensic pioneer added: ‘I’ve not seen in 50 years where that occurred in a suicidal hanging case.’”

    REVEALED: Jeffrey Epstein massage room, underground lairs, temple and trick doors on Pedophile Island, his Caribbean hideaway that STILL has its own ambulance and remains fully staffed

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7632879/Jeffrey-Epstein-massage-room-underground-lairs-temple-trick-doors-Pedophile-Island.html

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  139. @utu

    In my opinion, Epstein is alive and in Israel, and Barr helped get him to Israel.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  140. FvS says:

    Or they could try improving access to mental healthcare and taking a hard look at SSRIs. They could even halt the ethnic cleansing of white Americans. B…but…that would be socialism!

  141. @alexander

    Yep. It would seem to be a good idea to open a bank account abroad denominated in other major currency or two, such as the Ruble and the Australian dollar.

    Especially a currency used in some country where you have reliable family ties and/or know or will learn the language well.

  142. Skeptikal says:
    @alexander

    “May I add that I was a true believer at the time, I believed everything I was told..the WMD’s , the mushroom clouds, the imminent threat, Saddam’s Anthrax in Tom Brokaw’s office, the yellow cake from Niger, Saddam’s links to Al Qaeda…I believed it all because I could never imagine, in a million years, any American who would actually be so “evil” as to LIE us into WAR.”

    Well, sorry to say that this makes it very hard for me to take you and your views or your mental acuity seriously.

    How anyone with a modicum of intelligence can have failed to see through the *obvious* lies immediately, in real time, in the runup to the Iraq invasion is beyond me. It even was obvious back in October of 2002 that the push to give Bush war-making power was a done deal, a setup. That was well before Colin Powell totally shamed himself with his pathetic performance. Which I guess he actually believed, although few others did. Now they say that they did. But recall Valerie Plame’s husband (can’t recall name) who completely debunked the yellowcake story—for those who didn’t already recognize it as a cake of BS.

    It was all so obvious.

    I and some of mly neighbors were out demonstrting in front of the local US Post Office every Saturday in the run-up to the Iraq War and our signs said things like “Liar, Liar, pants on fire!” ; “No blood for Oil”; etc etc. 14 million people demonstrated worldwide against the push for war that clearly based on lies.

    So, one is left thinking, as I thought at the time: There are always a bunch of people who are smarter and see more than others. Call them seers. Unfortunately, no one listens to them.

    • Replies: @alexander
  143. alexander says:
    @Skeptikal

    In the aftermath of WWII, it became clear to whole world that “war of aggression” was the most grotesque act of malevolence any nation could commit.

    Our country was seminal in creating and ratifying the treaties which recognized “war of aggression” as the “supreme crime of crimes”.

    Given this backdrop, it was inconceivable to me, that anyone in our country would ever seek to deceive us into committing such a heinous act .

    The idea that our own leaders and our own media would be complicit in doing so, was beyond my imagining.

    So I believed them …… without hesitation.

    It has become crystal clear to me, over time, that they deceived us all.

    This is as shameful as it is criminal.

    What should happen now, is that each and every perpetrator of this deception should be rounded up and sent to federal prison . Moreover, every “penny” of their assets should be made forfeit, to pay down the cost of the wars they lied us into.

    There is no excuse for what they did.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  144. HSO says:
    @vincenzo lapazzi

    Vicenzo,

    That (waste of resources) is a feature, not a bug! Skimming taxpayer money into insider pockets is EXACTLY one of the raisons-d’etre of every government program.

  145. Harbinger says:
    @alexander

    With all due respect, I’ll ask you the same questions again:

    “Who will do this?
    The government?
    The judiciary?
    The police?
    The armed forces?”

    Yes, we know what you are stating and yes, we agree, but who’s going to implement the action needed to bring the perpetrators to justice?
    You state:

    “If every single taxpayer got the bill for 200 k tomorrow, to pay for the cost of the wars we were lied into by our”ruling elites” ….there would be absolute pandemonium, and our police officers would be outraged MOST OF ALL…..( because they know the law better than we do).

    Every single congressman and senator , across the country ,would be fielding MILLIONS of calls, around the clock, from enraged citizens.

    Every phone to the White House would be swamped, 24/ 7. with outcries from furious taxpayers, demanding “accountability” right away…

    Within 24 hours, the President would be forced to start making arrests…FORCED TO DO IT …our “elites”(who lied us into war) would start dropping like flies……like “flies”.”

    But they wouldn’t get a bill for $200k, for the reasons you’ve explained. The (((elites))) are going to just continue printing fake money, from their Federal Reserve, charging you more and more interest.
    The president wouldn’t be forced to do anything. He’d just come on TV and give another BS response and then they’d work in tandem with the msm to create another false flag, somewhere else, blaming it either on their proxy warrior of ISIS/IS/Daesh, or white supremacist, school shooting and people now put their attention towards that.

    It’s about constant distraction. All of these attacks at home – church and school shootings, gay discos, etc are there to divert attention from some scandal that’s just broken out within the upper echelons of the establishment.
    The president IS part of the system. He’s there to protect it and the wrongs done within it. That should be blatantly apparent by now. Trump never had any intention to drain the swamp. He lied, to get votes.

    Look, until people are out on the streets, killing LOTS of policemen, MSM personalities, politicians etc, nothing is going to change in the Land of Nod. Sure, you’re going to be angry but that’s really it. You’ll post on the forums, such as this about what needs to be done and maybe discuss it with friends (which is highly unlikely as they’re probably fast asleep) but nothing is going to change in the status quo as you demand in your replies Alexander.

    All of this is Pavlovian programming. You are being told that there’s nothing you can do to stop what’s happening. If you get angry so what? If you go on forums and post your anger do they care? If you, however, do decide to take action, grab a rifle and start shooting up some police station, media outlet, politician’s residence or whatnot, you’ll not only get a bullet in your head, but the msm will just come out and brandish you a right wing, extremist, white supremacist, nazi, who wants to kill 100 million Jews and homosexuals.

    Again, knowing what needs to be done and actually implementing it are two completely different things. The former is easy to do, once you’re awake. The latter is exceptionally hard, bordering on the impossible.
    Any organisation that springs up to combat the wrong in government is INSTANTLY targeted, infiltrated and shut down. Politics is a completely closed shop. The right is heavily controlled the Jewish nationalists (Zionists) and the left Jewish internationalists (communists). The former are putting all their efforts into the safety and protection of Israel along with its growth into Greater, while the left are doing their best to create the globalist, communist, state. The wishes of the non Jews, don’t even come into question with these people. You’re just the profane, useless eaters, soul-less beasts of burden to do the bidding of the Jew. Your welfare doesn’t even come into question. It’s not even contemplated.

    Look at the following dissection of the 1934 movie ‘The House of Rothschild’, by Devon Stack of Black Pilled.

    This was made by Jews to paint Jews in a good light and ironically it does completely the opposite, showing their greed, their hatred of the goyim and their ethnocentric supremacy. More so, this film is about a family, directly responsible for the creation of Israel and the world’s woes we all suffer with today.

    It appears that you’ve not long been awake. You’re angry. You’re currently experiencing the Kubler-Ross model of the five stages of grief.
    Until far, far more people are, where you are today, nothing’s going to change. I’m sorry.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @alexander
  146. peterAUS says:
    @Harbinger

    You’ve put some thought into this and, I guess, you are onto the right track.
    Say, on this:

    Again, knowing what needs to be done and actually implementing it are two completely different things. The former is easy to do, once you’re awake. The latter is exceptionally hard, bordering on the impossible.

    and

    Until far, far more people are, where you are today, nothing’s going to change.

    BUT, there IS one, fundamental, element missing in your posts here.
    And, forums like this, could, maybe, work on that.

    Nothing much so far, but it’s possible.

    Could you guess what element is that?

    • Replies: @Harbinger
  147. Harbinger says:
    @peterAUS

    Well, I suppose optimism, but then I’m a pessimist in that I look at current reality and go from there instead of hoping for miracles in dire situations.
    And then obviously there is the element of using forums like these to wake people up. But then, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

    I think the fundamental element in society, to making change, is for people to experience life changing happenings, which make them start asking questions. Currently, people are too comfortable and haven’t really had to fight for survival. When things get really bad, to European peoples being technically 2nd class citizens, refused employment, attacked by people who aren’t brought to prosecution, or if they are, given a slap on the wrist, made homeless etc, that’s when you’re going to notice a change.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @JoeFour
  148. peterAUS says:
    @Harbinger

    …Well, I suppose optimism…

    Vision.

    ….using forums like these to wake people up…

    Using forums like these to start to create that vision….

    I think the fundamental element in society, to making change, is for people to experience life changing happenings, which make them start asking questions. Currently, people are too comfortable and haven’t really had to fight for survival. When things get really bad, to European peoples being technically 2nd class citizens, refused employment, attacked by people who aren’t brought to prosecution, or if they are, given a slap on the wrist, made homeless etc, that’s when you’re going to notice a change.

    One of the elements.
    A man, in order to confront the ruling power and suffer, probably even perish in that struggle, must believe that losing his life, limb, safety, and security make sense. Are worth something.

    Without such vision, goal, objective, all that pent up rage will be wasted and, fundamentally, managed.
    Individual or small group occasional atomized and diffused violence against TPTBs, or, more likely, against immediate vicinity, or immediate “other”. Easily managed and actually strengthening the current regime.

    Without vision, there is no objective. Without an objective, there is no strategy. And without a strategy, there is no (successful) organization. Without organization, there is no action. Good action, that is.

    Makes sense?

  149. alexander says:
    @Harbinger

    If you are asking me “how” we implement this , all I can tell you is I have found a way .

    It does not involve “pitchforks” , or “mass protests”, or “violence”, or the storming of our Neocon”Bastilles”.

    It is ALL about enforcing our laws….nothing more, nothing less.

    I cannot tell you what it is, right now, what I can say is it does NOT involve trying to sue our federal government,…. this is a “shoot yourself in the face ” disaster.

    It is all about suing on our “governments” behalf ,

    This is the play….and (I believe) it will work.

    Why ?….because our government will always “take the money”..when it needs it .

    And it needs it….Now.

    No doubt about it !

  150. Poco says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I thought Batitsky shot Beria in the head.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  151. @Poco

    No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    He was legally hanged by Bulganin’s special unit in front of KGB headquarters.

    • Replies: @Poco
  152. Poco says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Ok. I had read my information on wikipedia which I acknowledge is not necessarily an accurate source.
    I’ll try to find your info.

  153. JoeFour says:
    @Harbinger

    “When things get really bad, to European peoples being technically 2nd class citizens, refused employment, attacked by people who aren’t brought to prosecution, or if they are, given a slap on the wrist, made homeless etc, that’s when you’re going to notice a change.”

    This has already happened in spades to Western Europe and South Africa and seemingly gets worse everyday with no end in sight and the good ole USA is following close behind. Yet … I notice no change: the white elite remain secure in their prosperous treason while the white masses flounder in a vast pool of ignorance and denial living from day to day without any true effective leadership to resist their great replacement.

    “If you … do decide to take action, grab a rifle and start shooting up some police station, media outlet, politician’s residence or whatnot, you’ll not only get a bullet in your head, but the msm will just come out and brandish you a right wing, extremist, white supremacist, nazi, who wants to kill 100 million Jews and homosexuals….knowing what needs to be done and actually implementing it are two completely different things. The former is easy to do, once you’re awake. The latter is exceptionally hard, bordering on the impossible.”

    Yes…most unfortunately…yes.

  154. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    “Here’s an idea: this law should be used to lock up all of the motherfuckers that wrote it, and all of the motherfuckers who voted for its passage into law, before they commit any more crimes against humanity”

    Good idea.

  155. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harbinger

    “The real struggle that those awake have, is actually getting the heavily indoctrinated sheep to see common sense. Currently, identity politics is the name of the game and a visceral hatred of European people is ongoing throughout the west”

    Only among idiotic politicians, that aren’t for to be in the positions they are in, phoney ‘academics’ and a lot of the msm.

    That’s where the propaganda comes from, most of the public are too busy to notice…

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