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While more revelations about the Bill Gates–Jeffrey Epstein relationship have begun trickling out following the Gates’s divorce announcement, the strong evidence pointing to their relationship beginning decades prior to 2011 continues to be covered up by the media—not necessarily to protect Bill but to protect Microsoft.

In early May, the announcement that Bill and Melinda Gates would be divorcing after twenty-seven years of marriage shocked both those that praise and those that loathe the “philanthropic” power couple.

Less than a week after the initial announcement of the divorce, on May 7, the Daily Beast reported that Melinda Gates had allegedly been “deeply troubled” by Bill Gates’s relationship with child sex trafficker and intelligence asset Jeffrey Epstein. The report suggested that Melinda was a major reason for her husband’s decision to distance himself from Epstein around 2014 because of her discomfort with Epstein after they both met him in 2013. That previously unreported meeting had taken place at Epstein’s mansion on New York’s Upper East Side.

The Daily Beast also revealed that the details of the Gates’s divorce had been decided several weeks prior to the official announcement. Then, on May 9, the Wall Street Journal published a report suggesting that the plans for divorce went back even farther, with Melinda having consulted divorce lawyers in 2019. Allegedly, that consultation was made after details of Bill Gates’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein had gained considerable mainstream media attention, including from the New York Times.

While mainstream media outlets apparently agree that Jeffrey Epstein was a likely factor in the Gates’s recently announced split up, what these same outlets refuse to cover is the real extent of the Bill Gates–Jeffrey Epstein relationship. Indeed, the mainstream narrative holds that Gates’s ties to Epstein began in 2011, despite the evidence pointing to their relationship beginning decades earlier.

This blanket refusal to honestly report on the Gates-Epstein ties likely is due to Gates’s outsized role in current events, both in terms of global health policy as it relates to COVID-19 and in his being a major promoter and funder of controversial technocratic “solutions” to a slew of societal problems. What is more likely, however, is that the nature of the relationship between Gates and Epstein before 2011 is even more scandalous than what transpired later, and it may have major implications not just for Gates but for Microsoft as a company and for some of its former top executives.

This particular cover-up is part of an obvious tendency of mainstream media to ignore the clear influence that both Epstein and members of the Maxwell family wielded—and, arguably, continue to wield—in Silicon Valley. Indeed, the individuals who founded tech giants such as Google, LinkedIn, Facebook, Microsoft, Tesla, and Amazon all have connections with Jeffrey Epstein, some closer than others.

This investigation is adapted from my upcoming book One Nation Under Blackmail, which will be released early next year and will include a more complete investigation into Epstein’s ties to Silicon Valley, scientific academia, and intelligence agencies.

The Evening Standard Mystery

In 2001, perhaps the most important article ever written about Jeffrey Epstein was published. The article, which focused mainly on Ghislaine Maxwell’s and Epstein’s relationship with Prince Andrew, was published on January 22, 2001, in London’s Evening Standard. The article, written by Nigel Rosser, was never retracted and was published well before Epstein’s first arrest and the onset of his public notoriety. It has, nevertheless, since been removed from the Evening Standard’s website and can now only be found on professional newspaper databases. I made a PDF of that article and several other scrubbed Epstein-related articles publicly available in October 2019.

The full article here can also be accessed here:Download

Key statements made in the article make it clear why it was removed from the internet, apparently in the wake of Epstein’s first arrest in Florida. Rosser introduces Epstein as “an immensely powerful New York property developer and financier,” a nod to Epstein’s past in the New York real estate market. Later in the article, he notes that Epstein “once claimed to have worked for the CIA although he now denies it,” one of several likely reasons why the article was removed from the internet well before Epstein’s second arrest in 2019.

Much of the article notes the closeness of Epstein and Maxwell to Prince Andrew and suggests that both wielded considerable influence over the prince, largely due to Maxwell’s role as his “social fixer.” It states that Maxwell was “manipulating” the prince and that “the whole Andrew thing is probably being done for Epstein.”

One line stands out, however, as the first major clue toward demystifying the true origin the of the Gates-Epstein relationship. Soon after Rosser introduces Epstein in the article, he states that Epstein “has made many millions out of his business links with the likes of Bill Gates, Donald Trump and Ohio billionaire Leslie Wexner, whose trust he runs.”

Both Wexner’s and Trump’s relationships with Epstein prior to 2001 are well known and date back to 1985 and 1987, respectively. Mainstream media, however, continue to report that Gates and Epstein first met in 2011 and have declined to follow the leads laid out by Nigel Rosser. I am personally aware of this withholding of information to a degree as a BBC reporter contacted me in 2019 for details about this 2001 Evening Standard article, which I provided. To date, the BBC has never reported on the contents of that article. Notably, the BBC has received millions in funding for years from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

Not only was Rosser’s article never retracted, but neither Gates, Trump, nor Wexner disputed the claims made in the article at the time, which was well before Epstein became notorious. In addition, given that Gates is named alongside two known close Epstein associates at the time—Donald Trump and Leslie Wexner—it further suggests that Gates’s ties to Epstein prior to 2001 were considerable enough to warrant his mention alongside these two other men.

In addition to the Evening Standard article, there is evidence from Maria Farmer, an Epstein victim who was employed by Epstein and Maxwell from 1995 to 1996, that she recalled hearing Epstein mention Bill Gates in such a way as to imply they were close friends and which gave her the impression that the Microsoft cofounder might soon be visiting one of Epstein’s residences.

Microsoft, McKinley, and Isabel Maxwell

Beyond these two key pieces of evidence, there is also the fact that, prior to the Evening Standard article, Gates already had a documented connection to a business run by Ghislaine Maxwell’s sisters in which Ghislaine had a financial stake, which may offer a clue as to the nature of the “business links” alluded to by Nigel Rosser. Furthermore, the odd nature of Gates’s relationship with Isabel Maxwell, who has ties to the PROMIS software espionage scandal and to Israeli intelligence, is documented in a 2000 article from the Guardian.

Twin sisters Christine and Isabel Maxwell, along with their husbands at the time, created the McKinley Group in January 1992. Christine and Isabel had both previously worked for the front company Information on Demand used by their father Robert Maxwell to sell the backdoored PROMIS software to the US government. After Robert Maxwell’s death, Christine and Isabel “wanted to circle the wagons and rebuild” and saw McKinley as “a chance to recreate a bit of their father’s legacy.”

The McKinley Group, however, was not just a venture of Isabel, Christine, and their husbands, as Ghislaine Maxwell also had “a substantial interest” in the company, according to a Sunday Times article published in November 2000. That same article also noted that Ghislaine, throughout the 1990s, had “been discreetly building up a business empire as opaque as her father’s” and that “she is secretive to the point of paranoia and her business affairs are deeply mysterious.” She chose to describe “herself as an ‘internet operator’” during this period, even though “her office in Manhattan refuses to confirm even the name or the nature of her business.”

Ghislaine Maxwell posing with her siblings, including twin sisters Isabel and Christine in 2019 in London
Ghislaine Maxwell posing with her siblings, including twin sisters Isabel and Christine in 2019 in London

Another article, appearing in The Scotsman from 2001, separately notes that Ghislaine “is extremely secretive about her affairs and describes herself as an internet operator.” It is unclear how involved Ghislaine actually was in the McKinley Group’s affairs. However, during this period, she was operating an intelligence-linked sexual-blackmail operation with Jeffrey Epstein, and there was considerable overlap of their finances, as noted in press reports from the time and afterward.

McKinley created what became known as the Magellan Internet Directory, remembered as “the first site to publish lengthy reviews and ratings of websites.” Magellan’s “value-added content” approach attracted several large corporations, resulting in “major alliances” with AT&T, Time-Warner, IBM, Netcom, and the Microsoft Network (MSN) that were all negotiated by Isabel Maxwell. Microsoft’s major alliance with McKinley came in late 1995, when Microsoft announced that Magellan would power the search option for the company’s MSN service.

McKinley’s fortunes fell, as its effort to become the first search engine to go public failed, igniting a stand-off between Christine Maxwell and Isabel’s then husband that also resulted in the company essentially falling behind other market leaders. As a result, McKinley missed the window for a second IPO attempt and continued to lag behind in adding ad revenue to their business model. Excite, which was later acquired by AskJeeves, ultimately bought the McKinley Group and Magellan for 1.2 million shares of Excite in 1996, which was then valued at $18 million. It was said that it was Isabel Maxwell who made the deal possible, with Excite’s CEO at the time, George Bell, claiming she alone salvaged their purchase of McKinley.

Despite McKinley’s lackluster end, the Maxwell twins and other stakeholders in the company, Ghislaine Maxwell among them, not only obtained a multimillion-dollar payout from the deal but also forged close connections with Silicon Valley high rollers. It is unclear if the money Ghislaine received from the sale was used to further the sexual blackmail operation she was then conducting alongside Jeffrey Epstein.

After the sale of McKinley/Magellan, the overt ties of Christine and Isabel Maxwell to intelligence in both the US and Israel grew considerably. Isabel’s ties to Microsoft also persisted following the sale of the McKinley Group. She became president of the Israeli tech company CommTouch, whose funding was linked to individuals and groups involved in the Jonathan Pollard nuclear spying affair. CommTouch, an “obscure software developer” founded in 1991 by former Israeli military officers, focused on “selling, maintaining and servicing stand-alone email client software products for mainframe and personal computers.” The company specifically courted Isabel because she was the daughter of Israeli “super-spy” Robert Maxwell. Isabel had similar reasons for joining the company, telling Haaretz that leading the company gave her “a chance to continue her father’s involvement in Israel.”

Of all the alliances and partnerships Isabel negotiated during her early years at CommTouch, it was her dealings with Microsoft cofounders Bill Gates and Paul Allen that put CommTouch “on the map.” Microsoft’s cofounders did much more than put CommTouch “on the map,” however, as they essentially intervened to prevent the collapse of its initial public offering, a fate that had befallen Isabel Maxwell’s previous company, the McKinley Group, not long before. Indeed, CommTouch kept pushing back its IPO until a massive investment from firms tied to Microsoft cofounder Paul Allen was announced in July 1999.

The investments from Allen’s Vulcan and Go2Net resulted in a jump in “interest in the stock sale and in CommTouch, until now an obscure software developer,” according to a Bloomberg report, and also inflated their stock price immediately prior to their going public. The money from the Allen-linked companies was specifically used “to expand sales and marketing and build its presence in international markets.” Allen’s decision to invest in CommTouch seems odd from a financial perspective, given that the company had never turned a profit and had over $4 million in losses just the year before. Yet, thanks to Allen’s timely investment and his apparent coordination with the company’s repeated delays of its IPO, CommTouch was valued at over $230 million when it went public, as opposed to a $150 million valuation just weeks before Allen’s investment.

Paul Allen and Nicole Junkermann at Cinema Against AIDS Cannes in Cannes, France. Source: Vocal Media
Paul Allen and Nicole Junkermann at Cinema Against AIDS Cannes in Cannes, France. Source: Vocal Media

It is not exactly clear why Paul Allen came to the rescue of CommTouch’s IPO and what he expected to gain from his investment. It is worth pointing out, however, that Allen later became among the members of an elite online community set up in 2004 called A Small World, whose membership also included Jeffrey Epstein and Epstein-linked figures such as Lynn Forester de Rothschild and Naomi Campbell, as well as Petrina Khashoggi, the daughter of Adnan Khashoggi, a former client of Epstein’s. A Small World’s largest shareholder was Harvey Weinstein, the now-disgraced media mogul who was a business partner of Epstein and who has since been convicted of rape and sexual abuse. Around this same time, Paul Allen was photographed with Epstein associate Nicole Junkermann, herself an intelligence asset.

Less than three months after Allen’s investments in CommTouch in October 1999, the company announced that it had struck a major deal with Microsoft whereby “Microsoft will utilize the CommTouch Custom MailTM service to provide private label web-based email solutions for select MSN partners and international markets.” In addition, per the agreement, “CommTouch will provide MSN Messenger Service and Microsoft Passport to its customers while building upon its Windows NT expertise by supporting future MSN messaging technologies.” “We are looking forward to further enhancing our relationship with Microsoft by integrating other state-of-the-art Microsoft products,” Gideon Mantel of CommTouch said at the time of the deal’s public announcement.

In December 1999, Microsoft announced that it had invested $20 million in CommTouch by purchasing 4.7 percent of its shares. The announcement pushed CommTouch stock prices from $11.63 a share to $49.13 in just a few hours’ time. Part of that deal had been finalized by Richard Sorkin, a recently appointed CommTouch director. Sorkin had just become a multimillionaire following the sale of Zip2, Elon Musk’s first company of which Sorkin had been CEO.

It further appears that Bill Gates, then head of Microsoft, made a personal investment in CommTouch at the behest of Isabel Maxwell. In an October 2000 article published in the Guardian, Isabel “jokes about persuading Bill Gates to make a personal investment” in CommTouch sometime during this period.

The Guardian article then oddly notes, regarding Isabel Maxwell and Bill Gates:

“In a faux southern belle accent, [Isabel] purrs: ‘He’s got to spend $375m a year to keep his tax-free status, why not allow me to help him.’ She explodes with laughter.”

Given that individuals as wealthy as Gates cannot have “tax-free status” and that this article was published soon after the creation of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Isabel’s statements suggest that it was the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Trust, which manages the foundation’s endowment assets, that made this sizable investment in CommTouch.

Furthermore, it is worth highlighting the odd way in which Isabel describes her dealings with Gates (“purring,” speaking in a fake Southern accent), describing her interactions with him in a way not found in any of her numerous other interviews on a wide variety of topics. This odd behavior may be related to Isabel’s previous interactions with Gates and/or the mysterious relationship between Gates and Epstein during this time.

Isabel Maxwell as CommTouch President
Isabel Maxwell as CommTouch President

After 2000, CommTouch’s business and clout expanded rapidly, with Isabel Maxwell subsequently crediting investments from Microsoft, led by Gates, and Paul Allen for the company’s good fortune and the success of its effort to enter the US market. Maxwell, as quoted in the 2002 book Fastalliances, states that Microsoft viewed CommTouch as a key “distribution network,” adding that “Microsoft’s investment in us put us on the map. It gave us instant credibility, validated our technology and service in the marketplace.” By this time, Microsoft’s ties to CommTouch had deepened with new partnerships, including CommTouch’s hosting of Microsoft Exchange.

Though Isabel Maxwell was able to secure lucrative investments and alliances for CommTouch and saw its products integrated into key software and hardware components produced and sold by Microsoft and other tech giants, she was unable to improve the company’s dire financial situation, with CommTouch netting a loss of $4.4 million in 1998 and similar losses well into the 2000s, with net losses totalling $24 million in 2000 (just one year after the sizable investments from Microsoft, Paul Allen and Gates). The losses continued even after Isabel formally left the company and became president emeritus in 2001. By 2006, the company was over $170 million in debt. Isabel Maxwell left her position at CommTouch in 2001 but for years retained a sizable amount of CommTouch stock valued at the time at around $9.5 million. Today, Isabel Maxwell is, among other things, a “technology pioneer” of the World Economic Forum.

Epstein, Edge, and Nathan Myhrvold

Another indication of a relationship between Epstein and Gates prior to 2001 is Epstein’s cozy ties with Nathan Myhrvold, who joined Microsoft in the 1980s and became the company’s first chief technology officer in 1996. At the time, Myhrvold was one of Gates’s closest advisers, if not the closest, and cowrote Gates’s 1996 book, The Road Ahead, which sought to explain how emerging technologies would impact life in the years and decades to come.

In December of the same year that he became Microsoft’s CTO, Myhrvold traveled on Epstein’s plane from Kentucky to New Jersey, and then again in January 1997 from New Jersey to Florida. Other passengers accompanying Myhrvold on these flights included Alan Dershowitz and “GM,” presumably Ghislaine Maxwell. It is worth keeping in mind that this is the same period when Gates had a documented relationship with Ghislaine’s sister Isabel.

In addition, in the 1990s, Myhrvold traveled with Epstein in Russia alongside Esther Dyson, a digital technology consultant who has been called “the most influential woman in all the computer world.” She currently has close ties to Google as well as the DNA testing company 23andme and is a member of and agenda contributor to the World Economic Forum. Dyson later stated that the meeting with Epstein had been planned by Myhrvold. The meeting appears to have taken place in 1998, based on information posted on Dyson’s social media accounts. One photo features Dyson and Epstein, with a time stamp indicating April 28, 1998, posing with Pavel Oleynikov, who appears to have been an employee of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center. In that photo, they are standing in front of the house of the late Andrei Sakharov, the Soviet nuclear scientist and dissident, who is alleged to have had ties to US intelligence. Sakharov and his wife, Yelena Bonner, were supporters of Zionist causes.

The photos were taken in Sarov, where the Russian Federal Nuclear Center is based. That same day, another photo was taken that shows Epstein inside a classroom full of teens, apparently also in Sarov, given the time stamp.

Another Dyson image, one without a visible time stamp but with a caption stating the photo was taken “at Microsoft Russia in Moscow” in April 1998, shows Nathan Myhrvold. Dyson’s caption further states, “This was the beginning of a three-week trip during which Nathan and a variety of hangers-on (including a bodyguard) explored the state of post-Soviet science.” Epstein appears to be one of the “hangers-on,” given the photographs, dates, and the described purpose of the trip.

Myhrvold and Epstein apparently had more in common than an interest in Russian scientific advances. When Myhrvold left Microsoft to cofound Intellectual Ventures, Vanity Fair reported that he had received Epstein at the firm’s office with “young girls” in tow who appeared to be “Russian models.” A source close to Myhrvold and cited by Vanity Fair claimed that Myhrvold spoke openly about borrowing Epstein’s jet and staying at his homes in Florida and New York. Vanity Fair also noted that Myhrvold has been accused of having sex with minors provided by Epstein by none other than Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, who stands accused of the same crime and who had previously flown with Myhrvold on Epstein’s private plane.

In addition, a former colleague of Myhrvold’s at Microsoft later developed her own ties to Epstein. Linda Stone, who joined Microsoft in 1993 and worked directly under Myhrvold, eventually became a Microsoft vice president. She introduced Epstein to Joi Ito of the MIT Media Lab after Epstein’s first arrest. “He has a tainted past, but Linda assures me that he’s awesome,” Ito later said in an email to three MIT staffers. In Epstein’s famous little black book, there are several phone numbers for Stone, and her emergency contact is listed as Kelly Bovino, a former model and alleged Epstein coconspirator. After Epstein’s 2019 arrest, it emerged that Epstein had “directed” Bill Gates to donate $2 million to the MIT lab in 2014. Epstein also allegedly secured a $5 million donation from Leon Black for the lab. Ito was forced to resign his post as the lab’s director shortly after Epstein’s 2019 arrest.

Nathan Myhrvold, Linda Stone, Joi Ito, Esther Dyson, and Bill Gates were all members of the Edge Foundation community (edge.org website), alongside several other Silicon Valley icons. Edge, which is described as an exclusive organization of intellectuals “redefining who and what we are,” was created by John Brockman, a self-described “cultural impresario” and noted literary agent. Brockman is best known for his deep ties to the art world in the late 1960s, though lesser known are his various “management consulting” gigs for the Pentagon and White House during that same period. Edge, which the Guardian once called “the world’s smartest website,” is an exclusive online symposium affiliated with what Brockman calls “the Third Culture.” Epstein appears to have become involved with Brockman as early as 1995, when he helped to finance and rescue a struggling book project that was managed by Brockman.

Edge, however, is more than just a website. For decades, it was also instrumental in bringing together tech executives, scientists who were often Brockman’s clients, and Wall Street financiers through its Millionaires’ Dinner, first held in 1985. In 1999, this event rebranded as the Billionaires’ Dinner, and Epstein became intimately involved in these affairs and the Edge Foundation itself. Epstein was photographed attending several of the dinners as was Sarah Kellen, Ghislaine Maxwell’s chief “assistant” and coconspirator in the Epstein/Maxwell-run sex trafficking and blackmail scheme.

Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft and Jeffrey Epstein at the 2000 Edge Billionaires’ Dinner Source: https://www.edge.org/igd/1200
Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft and Jeffrey Epstein at the 2000 Edge Billionaires’ Dinner Source: https://www.edge.org/igd/1200

From 2001 to 2017, Epstein funded $638,000 out of a total of $857,000 raised by Edge. During this period, there were several years when Epstein was Edge’s only donor. Epstein stopped giving in 2015, which was incidentally the same year that Edge decided to discontinue its annual Billionaires’ Dinner tradition. In addition, the only award Edge has ever given out, the $100,000 Edge of Computation prize, was awarded in 2005 to Quantum computing pioneer David Deutsch—it was funded entirely by Epstein. A year before he began donating heavily to Edge, Epstein had created the Jeffrey Epstein VI Foundation to “fund and support cutting edge science around the world.”

Since the Epstein scandal, regular attendees of the Billionaires’ Dinner, sometimes called the Edge annual dinner, have referred to the event as an “influence operation.” If one follows the money, it appears it was an influence operation largely benefitting one man, Jeffrey Epstein, and his network. The evidence points toward Myhrvold and Gates as being very much a part of that network, even before Epstein’s involvement in Edge increased significantly.

A Tale of Two Bills

It is worth exploring the ties between the “philanthropic” endeavors of Bill Gates and Bill Clinton in the early 2000s, particularly given Epstein’s and Ghislaine Maxwell’s ties to the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative during that period. According to former Israeli intelligence operative Ari Ben-Menashe, Bill Clinton had been the main focus of Epstein’s sexual blackmail operation in the 1990s, a claim supported by Epstein victim testimony and Epstein’s intimate involvement with individuals who were close to the former president at the time.

Bill Gates at the White House Conference on the New Economy in 2000, Source: LA Times
Bill Gates at the White House Conference on the New Economy in 2000, Source: LA Times

Despite tensions arising from the Clinton administration’s pursuit of Microsoft’s monopoly in the late 1990s, the Gates and Clinton relationship had thawed by April 2000, when Gates attended the White House “Conference on the New Economy.” Attendees besides Gates included close Epstein associate Lynn Forester (now Lady de Rothschild) and then secretary of the treasury Larry Summers, who has also come under fire for his Epstein ties. Another attendee was White House chief of staff Thomas “Mack” McLarty, whose special assistant Mark Middleton met with Epstein at least three times at the Clinton White House. Middleton was fired after press reports surfaced detailing his ties to illegal donations linked to foreign governments that had been made to Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign. Another participant in the conference was Janet Yellen, Biden’s current Secretary of the Treasury.

Gates spoke at a conference panel entitled “Closing the Global Divide: Health, Education and Technology.” He discussed how the mapping of the human genome would result in a new era of technological breakthroughs and discussed the need to offer internet access to everyone to close the digital divide and allow the “new” internet-based economy to take shape. At the time, Gates was backing a company, along with American Telecom billionaire Craig McCaw, that hoped to establish a global internet service provider monopoly through a network of low-orbit satellites. That company, Teledesic, shut down between 2002 and 2003 and is credited as being the inspiration for Elon Musk’s Starlink.

Bill Clinton and Bill Gates entered the world of philanthropy around the same time, with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation launching in 2000 and the Clinton Foundation, in 2001. Not only that but Wired described the two foundations as being “at the forefront of a new era in philanthropy, in which decisions—often referred to as investments—are made with the strategic precision demanded of business and government, then painstakingly tracked to gauge their success.”

Other media outlets, however, such as the Huffington Post, challenged that these foundations engaged in “philanthropy” and asserted that calling them such was causing “the rapid deconstruction of the accepted term.” The Huffington Post further noted that the Clinton Global Initiative (part of the Clinton Foundation), the Gates Foundation, and a few similar organizations “all point in the direction of blurring the boundaries between philanthropy, business and non-profits.” It noted that this model for “philanthropy” has been promoted by the World Economic Forum and the Milken Institute. It is also worth noting that several of Epstein’s own “philanthropic” vehicles were also created just as this new era in philanthropy was beginning.

The Milken Institute was founded by Michael Milken, the notorious Wall Street “junk bond king,” who was indicted on 98 counts of racketeering and securities fraud in 1989. He served little prison time and was ultimately pardoned by Donald Trump. Milken committed his crimes while working alongside Leon Black and Ron Perelman at Drexel Burnham Lambert before its scandalous collapse. Black was deeply tied to Epstein, even having Epstein manage his personal “philanthropic” foundation for several years, even after Epstein’s first arrest. Perelman was a major Clinton donor whose 1995 fundraiser for the then president was attended by Epstein and whose companies offered jobs to Webster Hubbell and Monica Lewinsky after their respective scandals in the Clinton administration. Like Gates, Milken has transformed his reputation for ruthlessness in the corporate world into one of a “prominent philanthropist.” Much of his “philanthropy” benefits the Israeli military and illegal Israeli settlements in occupied Palestine.

Years after creating their foundations, Gates and Clinton discussed how they have “long bonded over their shared mission” of normalizing this new model of philanthropy. Gates spoke to Wired in 2013 about “their forays into developing regions” and “cites the close partnerships between their organizations.” In that interview, Gates revealed that he had met Clinton before he had become president, stating, “I knew him before he was president, I knew him when he was president, and I know him now that he’s not president.”

Also in that interview, Clinton stated that after he left the White House he sought to focus on two specific things. The first is the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), which he stated exists “thanks largely to funding from the Gates Foundation,” and the second is the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), “where I try to build a global network of people to do their own thing.”

The Clinton Health Access Initiative first received an $11 million donation from the Gates Foundation in 2009. Over the last twelve years, the Gates Foundation has donated more than $497 million to CHAI. CHAI was initially founded in 2002 with the mission of tackling HIV/AIDS globally through “strong government relationships” and addressing “market inefficiencies.” The Gates Foundation’s significant donations, however, began not long after CHAI’s expansion into malaria diagnostics and treatments. Notably, in 2011, Tachi Yamada, the former president of the Gates Foundation’s Global Health program, joined CHAI’s board alongside Chelsea Clinton.

Bill Gates and Bill Clinton at the annual Clinton Global Initiative in 2010
Bill Gates and Bill Clinton at the annual Clinton Global Initiative in 2010

Regarding the CGI, Epstein’s defense lawyers argued in court in 2007 that Epstein had been “part of the original group that conceived of the Clinton Global Initiative,” which was first launched in 2005. Epstein’s lawyers described the CGI as a project “bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world’s most pressing challenges.” The Gates Foundation gave the CGI a total of $2.5 million between 2012 and 2013 in addition to its massive donations to the CHAI and an additional $35 million to the Clinton Foundation itself. In addition to the Gates Foundation donations, Gates’s Microsoft has been intimately involved in other “philanthropic” projects backed by Clinton.

In addition to these ties, Hillary Clinton established a partnership between the Clinton Foundation and the Gates Foundation in 2014 as part of the Clintons’ No Ceilings initiative. That partnership sought to “gather and analyze data about the status of women and girls’ participation around the world” and involved the two foundations working “with leading technology partners to collect these data and compile them.” Months before the partnership was announced, Gates and Epstein met for dinner and discussed the Gates Foundation and philanthropy, according to the New York Times. During Hillary Clinton’s unsuccessful run for president in 2016, both Bill and Melinda Gates were on her short list as potential options for vice president.

In addition, Epstein attempted to become involved in the Gates Foundation directly, as seen by his efforts to convince the Gates Foundation to partner with JP Morgan on a multibillion-dollar “global health charitable fund” that would have resulted in hefty fees paid out to Epstein, who was very involved with JP Morgan at the time. Though that fund never materialized, Epstein and Gates did discuss Epstein becoming involved in Gates’s philanthropic efforts. Some of these contacts were not reported by the mainstream press until after the Bill and Melinda Gates divorce announcement. Yet, as mentioned, it was known that Epstein had “directed” Gates to donate to at least one organization—$2 million in 2014 to the MIT Media Lab.

Recent revelations about Gates and Epstein meetings that took place between 2013 and 2014 have further underscored the importance Epstein apparently held in the world of billionaire “philanthropy,” with Gates reportedly claiming that Epstein was his “ticket” to winning a Nobel Prize. Norwegian media, however, reported in October 2020 that Gates and Epstein had met the Nobel Committee chair, which failed to make a splash in international media at the time. It is worth asking if Epstein managed to arrange such meetings with other individuals who also coveted Nobel Prizes and if any such individuals later received those prizes. If Epstein had such connections, it is unlikely that he would use them only once in the case of Bill Gates, given the vastness of his network, particularly in the tech and science worlds.

The year 2013 is also when Bill and Melinda Gates together met with Epstein at his New York residence, after which Melinda allegedly began asking her soon-to-be ex-husband to distance himself from Epstein. While the stated reason for this, in the wake of the Gateses’ divorce announcement, was that Melinda was put off by Epstein’s past and his persona, it could potentially be related to other concerns about Melinda’s reputation and that of the foundation that shares her name.

Indeed, 2013 was also the year that the Gates mansion systems engineer, Rick Allen Jones, began to be investigated by Seattle police for his child porn and child rape collection, which contained over six thousand images and videos. Despite the gravity of his crime, when Jones was arrested at the Gates mansion a year later, he was not jailed after his arrest but was merely ordered “to stay away from children,” according to local media reports. From Melinda’s perspective, this scandal, combined with Bill Gates’s growing association with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein may have posed a threat to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s reputation, well before Epstein’s 2019 arrest.

2013 was also the year that the Maxwells become involved in the Clinton Foundation. That year, Ghislaine Maxwell’s TerraMar Project, which officially supported UN Sustainable Development Goals as they relate the world’s oceans, made a $1.25 million commitment to the Clinton Global Initiative as part of an effort to form a Sustainable Oceans Alliance. TerraMar shut down shortly after Epstein’s 2019 arrest.

Isabel Maxwell and Al Seckel at the World Economic Forum’s 2011 Annual Meeting
Isabel Maxwell and Al Seckel at the World Economic Forum’s 2011 Annual Meeting

Notably, Ghislaine’s TerraMar Project was in many ways the successor to Isabel Maxwell’s failed Blue World Alliance, which was also ostensibly focused on the world’s oceans. Blue World Alliance was set up by Isabel and her now deceased husband Al Seckel, who had hosted a “scientific conference” on Epstein’s island. The Blue World Alliance also went under the name Globalsolver Foundation, and Xavier Malina, Christine Maxwell’s son, was listed as Globalsolver’s liaison to the Clinton Foundation. He was previously an intern at the Clinton Global Initiative.

Malina later work ed in the Obama administration at the Office of White House Personnel. He now works for Google. It is also worth noting that during this same period, Isabel Maxwell’s son, Alexander Djerassi, was chief of staff at the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs in the Hillary Clinton–run State Department.

Gates Science and Epstein Science

While the Gates Foundation and the Clinton Foundation intermingled, and the latter had ties to Epstein and Maxwell, it also appears that Epstein had significant influence over two of the most prominent science advisers to Bill Gates over the last fifteen years—Melanie Walker and Boris Nikolic.

A screenshot from a 2019 presentation Melanie Walker gave for Rockefeller Foundation, where she is a fellow. Source: YouTube
A screenshot from a 2019 presentation Melanie Walker gave for Rockefeller Foundation, where she is a fellow. Source: YouTube

Melanie Walker, now a celebrated neurosurgeon, met Jeffrey Epstein in 1992 soon after she graduated from college, when he offered her a Victoria’s Secret modelling job. Such offers were often made by Epstein and his accomplices when recruiting women into his operation and it is unclear if Walker ever actually worked as a model for the Leslie Wexner-owned company. She then stayed at a New York apartment building associated with Epstein’s trafficking operations during visits to New York, but it is unclear how long she stayed there or at other Epstein-owned properties. After she graduated from medical school in 1998, she became Epstein’s science adviser for at least a year. By 1999, she had grown so close to Prince Andrew that she attended a Windsor Castle birthday celebration hosted by the Queen along with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. During this period, Melanie appears on Epstein’s flight logs under her birth name, Melanie Starnes, though it looks like “Starves” on the flight logs.

The close relationship between Prince Andrew and Melanie Walker came under scrutiny after Epstein’s former housekeeper at the Zorro Ranch property, Deidre Stratton, stated in an interview that Prince Andrew had been “given” a “beautiful young neurosurgeon” while he stayed at Epstein’s New Mexico property. Given that only one neurosurgeon was both close to Prince Andrew and a part of Epstein’s entourage at the time, it seems highly likely that this woman “gifted” to Andrew was Melanie Walker. According to Stratton, Andrew “kept company” with this woman for three days. The arrangement was set up by Epstein, who was not at the property at the time. The exact timing of the stay is uncertain, but it likely took place between 1999 and 2001.

Stratton said the following about the stay:

“At the time, Jeffrey had this, she supposedly was a neurosurgeon, quite young, beautiful, young and brilliant, and she stayed in the home with him… At one point we had all these different teas and you could pick the teas that you wanted and she asked me to find one that would make Andrew more horny.

I’m guessing she understood her job was to entertain him because I guess, the fear, I don’t know; the fear would be that Andrew would say, “No I didn’t really find her that attractive.” . . . He would tell Jeffrey that and then she would be on the ropes.

I’m guessing that, another theory is, that Jeffrey probably had her on retainer and she knew what her job would be, should be, to make these people happy. . . . Sex was all they thought about. I mean, I know for sure that Jeffrey would ideally like three massages a day.”

Sometime later, Walker moved to Seattle and began living with then Microsoft executive Steven Sinofsky, who now serves as a board partner at the venture capital firm Andreesen Horowitz. Andreesen Horowitz notably backs Carbyne911, the Israel intelligence-linked precrime start-up funded by Epstein and his close associate, former prime minister of Israel Ehud Barak, as well as another Israeli intelligence-linked tech company led by Barak, called Toka. Toka recently won contracts with the governments of Moldova, Nigeria, and Ghana through the World Bank, where Melanie Walker is currently a director and a former special adviser to its president. It is unclear when, how and under what circumstances Walker met Sinofsky.

After moving to Seattle to be with Sinofsky and after a brief stint as a “practitioner in the developing world” in China with the World Health Organization, Walker was hired as a senior program officer by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in 2006. Given that the main feature of Walker’s resume at the time was having been a science adviser to another wealthy “philanthropist,” Jeffrey Epstein, her hire by the Gates Foundation for this critical role further underscores how Bill Gates, at the very least, not only knew who Epstein was but knew enough about his scientific interests and investments to want to hire Walker. Walker went on to become deputy director for Global Development as well as a deputy director of Special Initiatives at the foundation. According to the Rockefeller Foundation, where she is a fellow, Walker later advised Gates on issues pertaining to neurotechnology and brain science for Gates’s secretive company bgC3, which Gates originally registered as a think tank under the name Carillon Holdings. According to federal filings, bgC3’s focus areas were “scientific and technological services,” “industrial analysis and research,” and “design and development of computer hardware and software.”

During her time at the Gates Foundation, Walker introduced Boris Nikolic, Gates’s science adviser, to Epstein. Today, Melanie Walker is the cochair of the World Economic Forum’s Global Future Council on Neurotechnology and Brain Science, having previously been named a WEF Young Global Leader. She also advises the World Health Organization, which is closely linked to Bill Gates’s “philanthropy.”

At the WEF, Walker wrote an article in 2016 entitled “Healthcare in 2030: Goodbye Hospital, Hello Home-spital,” in which she discusses how wearable devices, brain-machine interfaces, and injectable/swallowable robotic “medicines” will be the norm by 2030. Years before COVID-19 and the Great Reset–inspired efforts to change health care in just this way, Walker wrote that while the dystopian scenario she was painting “sounds crazy . . . most of these technologies are either almost ready for prime time, or in development.” Of course, a lot of those technologies took shape thanks to the patronage of her former bosses, Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates.

In the case of Boris Nikolic, after being introduced to Epstein through Walker, he attended a 2011 meeting with Gates and Epstein where he was photographed alongside James Staley, then a senior JP Morgan executive, and Larry Summers, former Secretary of the Treasury and a close Epstein associate. Nikolic was chief adviser for science and technology to Bill Gates at the time, advising both the Gates Foundation and bgC3. According to the mainstream narrative, this is supposed to be the first time that Gates and Epstein had ever met. In addition, this may have been when Epstein pitched the joint Gates Foundation–JP Morgan “global health charitable fund.”

The 2011 meeting at Jeffrey Epstein’s Manhattan mansion attended by James E. Staley, Larry Summers, Jeffery Epstein, Bill Gates and Boris Nikolic
The 2011 meeting at Jeffrey Epstein’s Manhattan mansion attended by James E. Staley, Larry Summers, Jeffery Epstein, Bill Gates and Boris Nikolic

In 2014, Nikolic “waxed enthusiastic” about Epstein’s supposed penchant for financial advice ahead of a public offering for a gene-editing company that Nikolic had a $42 million stake in. Notably, both Nikolic and Epstein were clients of the same group of bankers at JP Morgan, with Bloomberg later reporting that Epstein regularly helped those bankers attract wealthy new clients.

In 2016, Nikolic cofounded Biomatics capital, which invests in health-related companies at “the convergence of genomics and digital data” that are “enabling the development of superior therapeutics, diagnostics and delivery models.” Nikolic founded Biomatics with Julie Sunderland, formerly the director of the Gates Foundation’s Strategic Investment Fund.

At least three of the companies backed by BiomaticsQihan Biotech, eGenesis, and Editas—were cofounded by George Church, a Harvard geneticist with deep ties to Epstein and also closely associated with the Edge Foundation. Biomatics investment in Qihan Biotech is no longer listed on the Biomatics website. Church’s Qihan Biotech seeks to produce human tissues and organs inside pigs for transplantation into humans, while eGenesis seeks to genetically modify pig organs for use in humans. Editas produces CRISPR gene-editing “medicines” and is also backed by the Gates Foundation as well as Google Ventures.

Church has been accused of promoting eugenics as well as unethical human experimentation. Epstein’s significant interest in eugenics was made public after his death, and Bill Gates, as well as his father William H. Gates II, have also been linked to eugenics movements and ideas.

After Epstein’s death in 2019, it was revealed that Nikolic had been named the “successor executor” of Epstein’s estate, further suggesting close ties to Epstein despite Nikolic’s claims to the contrary. After details of Epstein’s will were made public, Nikolic did not sign a form indicating his willingness to be executor and did not ultimately serve in that role.

The Epstein Cover-Up Continues

Despite the relatively abrupt shift in the mainstream media regarding what is acceptable to discuss regarding the Jeffrey Epstein–Bill Gates relationship, many of these same media outlets refuse to acknowledge much of the information contained in this investigative report. This is particularly true in the case of the Evening Standard article and Bill Gates’s odd relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell’s sister Isabel and CommTouch, the company Isabel previously led.

The likely reason for the continued cover-up of the true extent of Epstein’s ties to Gates has much more to do with Gates’s company Microsoft than with Bill Gates himself. While it is now permissible to report on ties that discredit Gates’s personal reputation, the information that could tie his relationship with Epstein and the Maxwells to Microsoft has been omitted.

If, as the Evening Standard reported, Epstein did make millions out of his business ties with Gates prior to 2001 and if Gates’s ties to Isabel Maxwell and the Israeli espionage–linked company CommTouch were to become public knowledge, the result could easily be a scandal on a par with the PROMIS software affair. Such a disclosure could be very damaging for Microsoft and its partner the World Economic Forum, as Microsoft has become a key player in the WEF’s Fourth Industrial Revolution initiatives that range from digital identity and vaccine passports to efforts to replace human workers with artificial intelligence.

There are clearly powerful actors with a vested interest in keeping the Epstein-Gates narrative squarely focused on 2011 and later—not necessarily to protect Gates but more likely to protect the company itself and other top Microsoft executives who appear to have been compromised by Epstein and others in the same intelligence-linked network.

This is hardly an isolated incident, as similar efforts have been made to cover up (or memory hole) the ties of Epstein and the Maxwells to other prominent Silicon Valley empires, such as those led by Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. One key reason for this is that the Epstein network’s blackmail operation involved not only sexual blackmail but electronic forms of blackmail, something used to great effect by Robert Maxwell on behalf of Israeli intelligence as part of the PROMIS operation. Given its nature, electronic forms of blackmail through illegal surveillance or backdoored software can be used to compromise those in power with something to hide, but who were uninclined to engage in the exploitation of minors, such as those abused by Epstein.

That Isabel and Christine Maxwell were able to forge close business ties with Microsoft after having been part of the front company that played a central role in PROMIS-related espionage and after explicitly managing their subsequent companies with the admitted intention to “rebuild” their spy father’s work and legacy, strongly points to the probability of at least some Microsoft products having been compromised in some fashion, likely through alliances with Maxwell-run tech companies. The lack of mainstream media concern over the documented ties of the Epstein network to other top Microsoft executives of the past, such as Nathan Myhrvold, Linda Stone, and Steven Sinofsky, makes it clear that, while it may be open season on the relationship between Bill Gates and Epstein, such is not the case for Microsoft and Epstein.

The ties of Epstein and the Maxwells to Silicon Valley, not just to Microsoft, are part of a broader attempt to cover up the strong intelligence component in the origin of Silicon Valley’s most powerful companies. Much effort has been invested in creating a public perception that these companies are strictly private entities despite their deep, long-standing ties to the intelligence agencies and militaries of the United States and Israel. The true breadth of the Epstein scandal will never be covered by mainstream media because so many news outlets are owned by these same Silicon Valley oligarchs or depend on Silicon Valley for online reader engagement.

Perhaps the biggest reason why the military/intelligence origins and links to the current Silicon Valley oligarchy will never be honestly examined, however, is that those very entities are now working with breakneck speed to usher in the Fourth Industrial Revolution, which would make artificial intelligence, automation, mass electronic surveillance, and transhumanism central to human society. One of the architects of this “revolution,” Klaus Schwab, said earlier this year that rebuilding and maintaining trust with the public was critical to that project. However, were the true nature of Silicon Valley, including its significant ties to serial child rapist and sex trafficker Jeffery Epstein and his network, to emerge, the public’s trust would be significantly eroded, thus threatening what the global oligarchy views as a project critical to its survival.

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  1. kapoore says:

    I’m always impressed with the vigorous detail and documentation in your articles. What a menace
    these philanthropic organizations are to the ordinary and lowly. These billionaire creeps never stop plotting and figuring out even more ways to stomp on people and push their creepy agendas, which remain forever hidden.

  2. The cover-up continues? I personally take the term, the”cover-up” to be much much more extensive than what Bill Gates or Fauci were involved with, or any other creepy thing that has been exposed as a result of 1) President Trump opening the Pandora’s box of corruption in D.C. with his presidency and 2) the crazed insane reaction of the democrats and republican rino politicians over reaction to it. They were so shocked by Trump becoming President that they spent literally the whole four years of his presidency, CONSPIRING to remove him from office by any means possible, as they themselves stated many times. We now know that Fauci was utterly “in” with the democrats and rino republicans plans to remove the President and they spent four years lying about everything going on in the U.S., including the matters surrounding the Covid 19 viirus. In another day and age these people would be summarily hung.

  3. “Rebuilding and maintaining trust with the public?”

    WTF?

    Trust is long gone.

    I don’t believe ANYTHING that comes from the jew media or government or academia.

    And the WEF and goofy Klaus the Bond Villain?

    C”MON!!!!!!!!!!!

    Take one look at that motherfucker!

    Trust?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @the grand wazoo
  4. Ghali says:

    Jews finger is everywhere. what the F**ck? They are very skilled in manipulating and coercing White (and Black) volks very easy. In the U.S. and Britain, they control everyone and everything for the sake of Israel.

    • Agree: moi
  5. Remember when they said Love Story by Erich Segal was based on the real-life romance between Al and Tipper?

    • LOL: Alfred
  6. This story is SO antisemitic! Why are most of these people Jewish? The author is trying to paint Jews as bad.

    • Agree: Vojkan
    • Troll: Art
    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
    , @Iva
  7. Atle says:

    I’m not gonna hide. Bill Gates was the sexiest meaningless billionaire I ever saw.

    • Troll: TheMoon
    • Replies: @gatobart
    , @Velvet
    , @Vojkan
  8. Comme d’habitude, Whitney has done a great work. Merci beaucoup.

    You might find some further insight about the same topic with this other great article by Jason Horsley, a must read to:

    https://auticulture.com/jeffrey-epstein-edge-foundation-mit-media-lab-ted-talks-the-scientainment-industry/

  9. A tour de force. Thanks to Whitney Webb!

    That Daily Beast article is gold.

    This person said members of the foundation’s communications team were alerted to Gates’ relationship with Epstein and were told it “was a maneuver to try to get himself a Nobel Peace Prize.” They said the tech mogul had even kept some employees on call on prize day in years past just in case he was awarded the distinction.

    Can you imagine being in Gates’ inner circle and dealing this dish to the press?

  10. utu says:

    Very interesting. Thank you, Ms. Webb.

    I would like to see a closer look at Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation that was launched in 2000 and on operations of William H. Gates Foundation that preceded it and which was run by Bill Gates father.

    Then one should look at the antitrust action agains Microsoft during Clinton administration. The suit began on May 18, 1998. On June 7, 2000, the court ordered a breakup of Microsoft as its remedy. And then after election of Bush in 2000 and the appeal action the DOJ announced on September 6, 2001 that it was no longer seeking to break up Microsoft.

    Ms. Webb is right that it is not about Bill Gates but about Microsoft, big money only and men who exert control on them.

  11. Who would have thought all these philanthropy foundations were nothing more than pay to play rackets to move money around to pay off Jeff, who pays off Shlomo, who pays off ad nausea.
    If they don’t have goods on you for sexual blackmail, they’ve got you on surveillance from backdoored hacks. They got everything.
    Now we know why most all politicians are on the take, playing against left or right as if it’s a game of “Who Wants to Be A Millionaire the Fastest”.
    Btw, how much are cartels paying alphabets, politicians and MIC for drugs, guns and human smuggling operations?

    P.S. – This would make a great movie in some imaginary make Believe alternative universe not run by (((Global Homo pervs))).

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  12. Anon[862] • Disclaimer says:

    Enormous gratitude and respect for your work, Whitney. Wishing you well.

  13. Mephisto says:

    Bill Gates, like all rich white people, receives his marching order from a higher authority, hence the unexplainable motive. The higher authority is never named. A certain Lord in the City.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  14. Dumbo says:

    This elite is really endogamic. All cousins, basically.

    But how is it possible that this Epstein guy is everywhere, and had contacts with everyone, from Woody Allen to Bill Gates to Bill Clinton? The pimp story is not enough to justify it. Since Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of an Israeli spy, Epstein must have been Mossad too, but was it only about blackmail? Or was there something else? Perhaps there was no blackmail, and they were all only just good friends who got together every Saturday for an agreeable afternoon of drinks, conversation and child-raping.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  15. @kapoore

    How is “their creepy agenda…hidden?

    It’s been front and center, for “at least” 1,500 years.

    Do you honestly think it started after the “world wide web”?

    Dark ages, the inquisition,100 yrs. war,crusades, ring any bells?

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
    , @Anonymous
  16. Miro23 says:

    Interesting how so many of these people have found their way into the leadership of the World Economic Forum (WEF). Klaus Schwab’s book “Covid-19: The Great Reset” (recently read it) repeatedly calls for Covid-19 to be weaponized to usher in the “Great Reset” aka New Normal saying that the “crisis must not go to waste”.

    P.115 – Strong interconnections exist between global governance failure, climate action failure, national government failure (with which it has a self-reinforcing effect), social instability and of course the ability to successfully deal with pandemics. In a nutshell, global governance is at the nexus of all these other issues. Therefore, the concern is that, without appropriate global governance, we will become paralyzed in our attempts to address and respond to global challenges, particularly when there is such a strong dissonance between short term, domestic imperatives and long-term global challenges. This is a major worry, considering that there is today no “committee to save the world” (the expression was used more than 20 years ago, at the height of the Asian financial crisis).

    IOW Jeffrey Epstein’s friends regard themselves as suitable global governors /committee to save the world – so no surprise that the Russians and Chinese disagree (Western Europe and the 5 Eyes don’t get this option – they just follow orders).

    • Thanks: nosquat loquat
  17. Thomasina says:

    Great article, Whitney! I would not like to live in their ugly world. I mean, how would you ever clean all the filth off yourself? Bribery, blackmail, collusion, corruption. And once you’ve joined the club, there’s no getting out.

    Looks like they just pass money back and forth between themselves, buying shares in each other’s companies, enriching themselves. Tax-free foundations for collecting on favors, and then redirecting this money back out to the club. Another IPO is formed, a big name buys in, the stock price quadruples, the public buys in, only to be fleeced.

    If it was just in the U.S., it would have already folded, but it’s now a worldwide mafia. Psychopaths always destroy.

  18. cohen says:

    Wonder when Whitney’s book on “financier and hedge fund manager” will come out. Like to know Victoria Secret guy. why he had installed all those hidden video cameras in his Manhattan building and gave away to Epstein.

    What Fat Billy Barr did to cover up Epstein and his madame. We still are waiting for her mug shots. Only sketches.

    When all those confiscated videos from Epstein properties will be available,may be in China?. My interest is in Bill Clinton’s fake smile and Alan Dershowitz’s famous underwear he had it on while he was getting his massages?

    Heck we got Hunter Biden. Why not Billy and Alan?

  19. Bert says: • Website

    Ms. Webb,

    An analysis like this one provides historical perspective, a case study as it were, but it would also be useful to abstract from the specific individuals involved the character traits that make for a successful operator. For example, do the requisite traits differ between the sexes? Must all successful operators be extroverts as defined by the Myers-Briggs classification of personality types? Is verbal intelligence more necessary than mathematical aspects of IQ?

    I have watched from close-up several operators claw their way to their desired social position and was always awe-struck by their singlemindedness. It seems that simply labelling them as sociopaths masks a lot of behavioral and psychological details. So given that you write about the actions of these people, you seem well-placed to consider their psychologies, at least in the abstract without naming names. Readers would likely be interested in any psychological speculations that you might make.

  20. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews…

    Stinkin’ Jews…

    Phuquin’ Stinkin’ Jews.

    • Agree: Druid55
  21. Whitewolf says:

    Where were the UK’s intelligence services while Andrew was being compromised? Where were the US intelligence services while Bill Clinton was being compromised? You’d think they would be more active in preventing this sort of thing unless they were involved in it.

  22. gotmituns says:

    Truth About Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Jeffrey Epstein
    ————————————————————
    The “truth” is every successful man becomes the tool of a bunch of stinking jews at some point. The only one who never got into bed with them was Henry Ford.

  23. Realist says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Trust is long gone.

    Yes, and the only way to possibly get it back is to eliminate the Deep State.

  24. The world is a disgusting place. It is awash in filth and degeneracy. It’s run by sexual perverts for their own benefit. It makes me want to vomit. I’d rather be what I am, a relatively poor person with a job of negligible importance, but a clean conscience.

  25. Schuetze says:

    I have been calling it the Jew-Flu mostly because the deep-jew-state is so obviously up to their long hooked noses in this entire plandemic.

    Based on what Whitney Webb has written here, it could just as well be called the Pedo-Flu since the pedophiles Epstein, Maxwell, Gates, Summers, Clinton, Weinstein, Biden and the Mossad are so integral to the entire operation.

    Webb is also just scratching the surface of the integral part that Silicon Valley and the “Tech Industry” play in the plandemic. It goes far beyond just social media censorship and narrative pushing. Silicon Valley is the epicenter of the Transhumanist movement, which is closely related to MKUltra and even Scientology. Klaus Schwab and all the Forth Industrial Revolution prophets are also constantly blabbing about the merger of peoples “virtual persona” with their physical persona. The Moderna CEO was bragging about how the Moderna vaccine was actually an operating system that would allow regular updates. The Transgender movement also all about separating the slaves from physical reality, specifically that of their gender. By telling millennials that they are not confined to their natural gender, they are preparing them for a new transhumanist reality where they get regular Moderna OS updates, eventually done over the air the same way a Tesla receives its software updates.

    It is no coincidence that these vaccines use a newly patented substance for binding called luciferase. Even an athiest would have to acknowledge that these transhumanists seemed to be obsessed with Lucifer, as were/are the Freemasons.

    Steve Outrim, a long time scion of the Silicon Valley “Tech Industry”, and an avid Burner, even got a photograph from Burning Man of a contract for the sale of ones soul.

    [MORE]

    Of course anyone who has read Dave McGowan’s book about Laurel Canyon or goes to vigilantcitizen.com knows that there is a recurring theme of pop stars selling their souls to the devil, and then dying at the age of 27 or losing their first born. There is even the 27 club…

    Among them are Joplin, Morrison, Hendix and Kurt Cobaine. Dylan states in an inteview that he sold his soul, as do Katy Perry and many others.

  26. @Bert

    the character traits that make for a successful operator

    A willingness to sell one’s soul to Satan seems fairly consistent. As an aside, have you noticed the increasing terror depicted on Tony Blair’s face? He must know that his bill becomes due sooner than later.

  27. DanFromCT says:
    @kapoore

    . . . billionaire creeps . . .

    Some years ago I was having breakfast at the Palace Hotel in NYC while in the center of the restaurant there was a large table of ten or a dozen noisy diners who appeared to be unsupervised mental patients judging by the head swaying, goofiness, and uncouth laugh. The thing is, they weren’t mental patients, but senior staff from the mayor’s office.

    The wealthy boors mentioned in Whitney Webb’s article could readily be mistaken for the people at the Palace that morning. Because these new elites are anything but geniuses and the stupefying antithesis of an aristocracy based on merit or moral character, there is another explanation, and it’s one those of us who’ve worked with Jews in NYC intuitively realize is the case. How unsurprising it was to find in an article in The Times of Israel that Fauci and his wife are mavens of kosher food.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  28. Fred777 says:
    @Whitewolf

    They’re involved in it.

    • Agree: Bubba
  29. C3PO says:

    Whitney’s research is always detailed and extensive. Maybe someday these people will be brought to justice but if we think it will happen through the governments that ostensibly were instituted by the consent of the governed to protect the citizen’s rights I fear our trust would be misplaced.

  30. geokat62 says:
    @DanFromCT

    How unsurprising it was to find in an article in The Times of Israel that Fauci and his wife are mavens of kosher food.

    Here’s the source article:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/dr-fauci-says-he-prefers-latkes-to-hamantaschen/

    • Thanks: Bugey libre
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  31. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:

    Great article. It’s rare to see proper investigative reporting nowadays.

  32. @Schuetze

    Do you actually believe in a soul, lucifer and the rest of that hokus pokus?

    These singers are all dopers that got what they asked for, trading a moments of drug induced stupor for the rest of their useless lives. No loss to society as a whole as there are always more useless entertainers available.

  33. So, what exactly did Bill Gates do with the notorious Jew Epstein? He fucked some under aged girls, is that it? He could fuck the best of them and still have plenty of gelt leftover to buy the government. So, there is no problem there!

    • Replies: @sally
  34. Great article! I also spent a lot of time researching JE, the New York operation, the mansion in Florida, the ranch in New Mexico, and most of all the island, and thinking about what different activities went on in each location. The temple on the island, the large arena, and the fact of construction of some large facility underground was certainly indicative of more than just sex trafficking or a simple “honeypot” operation.

    It might be better to describe everything as a huge human trafficking op rather than just sex, because there were a number of markets to sell people into, ex. kids & youth were sold to the rich also as servants.

    I think the ties to tech people have to do with sale of children/babies for the purpose of experimentation necessary prior to implementing the 4th industrial revolution. Money would flow both ways, from the tech world to acquire the raw materials, and from JE’s crowd to tech, because they are transhumanists wanting to live forever and merge with machines and so would be willing to fund such research.

  35. @Badger Down

    “The author is trying to paint Jews as bad.”

    Not so. It’s her description of a self-portrait.

  36. @goldgettin

    Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner, here.

  37. gottlieb says:

    The brilliance of Ms. Webb’s journalism is that it continues to build upon itself, from her initial ground-breaking Epstein series to now. Her reporting deserves the highest honors for journalism. One presumes her book will be a major contribution to truth and justice.

    For this reader, aside from the blackmail/influence ring, sexual addictions and all roads lead back to Israel; her revitalization, digging up and pursuing the whole PROMIS scandal is of immense importance to unravel the bigger picture.

    • Agree: Bugey libre
    • Replies: @Abbybwood
    , @Dave Bowman
  38. TGD says:

    Wow, even if Webb’s expose is only half true, the rottenness of the global Jew-ridden elites is truly mind boggling. My head is still spinning.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  39. Leo Den says:
    @kapoore

    Epstein never worked a day in his life and yet he was a multi-millionaire? With his own island and buildings painted with the Israeli flag colors? And a slew of young girls?

    Can someone say Mossad?

    https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2019/08/10/special-trump-epstein-suicide-israel-and-the-pedophilia-ring/

    • Replies: @elysianfield
    , @Dave Bowman
  40. Anonymous[896] • Disclaimer says:
    @goldgettin

    Dark ages, the inquisition,100 yrs. war,crusades, ring any bells?

    I’m not hearing anything. Maybe you’re just picking up on your own (((echo))).

    • Agree: Getaclue
  41. sally says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    the question is what did Epstein and Ghislaine do with the sex trap pictures, information and tapes after their victims did their thing?

  42. @RoatanBill

    What a sad and pathetic comment….while Whitney Webb’s exemplary work does not go into numerology and the like, nor need to, there is a greater moral theme that thus indeed does speak to the existence of the soul, one which you have demonstrated to neither believe in nor demonstrate such sympathy to such victims of the entertainment mafia, that would engender higher thought process, moral intuition as Rudolf Steiner referenced the appreciation and cultivation of against such manifestations of evil as Whitney is exposing and @Schuetze points to.

    There is a moral courage that needs to be encouraged and witnessed, as Whitney’s work exemplifies, that is required to properly support such work through giving us the courage to to take on these networks of compromised people that feed the ‘beast’ that is nothing more that moral compromise that thus disengages the will, etc.

    Enjoy Plato’s “cave” as obviously with deprecating comments like yours, then you in essence turn Whitney Webb’s work into more entertainment for your consumption….consumption that is that wasting disease that where the cultivated destruction of performers, sensitive and prescient people of talent, like Jim Morrison, seeking to wake people up, are either falsely idolized or unfairly deprecated at the same time relative to substance abuse…

    Now was regards the wider implications of Whitney’s work , it is important to put this all in the context of work that the networks of Lyndon LaRouche opened important lines of research into
    such as found in Dope Inc or the Secrets Known Only To the Inner Elites or those by Webster Tarpley into the Venetians….

    • Agree: Schuetze
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  43. Interesting and depressing. Melanie Walker whoring herself on retainer might be the most depressing tidbit. Never heard of her until this article, but guess I like to think neurosurgeons having a bit of integrity. Unlike many on the right, I don’t think the Donald has ever come out of the Epstein thing smelling particularly good. It is one of several things that make me wonder if Trump’s presidency was a setup of sorts from the get go.

    Ironically this article is featured the same day Pepe Escobar has his glowing review of the Russians staking out their own destiny. Quite a few Russians in the Epstein Matrix. It is probably due to them sharing the same London Rothschild bankers and Pentagon’s internet. Finally what made the “spare” Prince Andrew such a desirable mark? Maybe the Brits ought to audit the royal family, and see what the old Queen actually owns in the world. The British Empire might hate its native Celts and Anglo Saxons, but it sure still financially rolls along with its beloved pedophiles and Israeli -Zionist Jews.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Katy
    , @ThreeCranes
  44. @Abdul Alhazred

    If a soul existed, along with devils, angels, gods, demons, licifer, etc, then there would be no need to have a belief system involved because the evidence would be blatantly obvious. Belief is the absence of evidence in something you want to be true but isn’t.

    The dopers that drop off from the music industry are parasites on the stupid part of the population, meaning the bulk of it. The industry produced brainless millionaires that then get to influence their ‘fans’, not with any brilliance or logic, but with fluff. These people suck a tremendous amount of money out of the economy to feed the (((media))) and the propaganda ministry.

    You produce a proper word salad. Were you educated by Professor Irwin Corey?

  45. In my opinion, one of the biggest coverups , is that Epstein is still alive and that Bill Barr arranged for him to be flown out of the country, there is no way in hell, he committed suicide.

    • Agree: Irish Savant
    • Replies: @hillaire
  46. kop says:

    We’re all fucked.

  47. Leo Den says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Trump would be summarily executed as well for treason.

    He was an Apartheid Israhell first Potus. He did more for the Zionist State than he did for America.

    Besides, he and his Zionist buddies were the ones that unleashed Covid 19 on the world.

    https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2020/03/07/the-dirty-secrets-behind-covid-19/

  48. @Leo Den

    “Epstein never worked a day in his life and yet he was a multi-millionaire? With his own island and buildings painted with the Israeli flag colors? And a slew of young girls?

    Can someone say Mossad?

    Leo,
    Can anyone say “It’s a good job, if you can get it”?

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
  49. This piece is what investigative writing is all about, a rare phenomena in today’s Jnews. (((Hollywood))) is unable to imagine a crime story of this magnitude exposing those who shall not be named.

  50. lysias says:

    More and more, we’re understanding how Acosta could have been told that Epstein belonged to intelligence. We still don’t know who told Acosta that. A superior in the Justice Department, presumably.

    • Agree: nosquat loquat
  51. @RoatanBill

    Actually I do not disagree with your first paragraph, but at the same time I do not warrant your the relative depopulation of such descriptive metaphors relative to our cognitive life to which real science speaks beyond sensory evidence into incommensurables.

    It is exactly the algorithms of the Baal Gates and the Epstein Minotaurs to which poetry can rouse such power to overcome such purveyors of deception to whom the transhumanist indeed want to divorce us from our higher powers. Indeed people have had what might be termed “miraculous healing” that actually do not give credence to such powers of thought that disempower people….

    Thus I agree with your second paragraph to which the entertainment industries are parasites as is in some ways the overwhelming present evidence, but not repleat and not above various tragic hero’s emerging with messages that incite the ire of the managerial classes that seek to engender a full depravity as the norm amongst fans looking for vicarious identity fulfillment outside themselves.

    My comments are only word salad for those whose logic contours are restricted to habitual reactions. No I have never heard of that said professor.

    Good Day or Evening…

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  52. Yawn.. The whole bunch seems headed for destruction in the Lake of Fire on Judgment Day. A bunch of rich sex perverts, no surprise there at all.

  53. Jiminy says:

    How is it that Isabel Maxwell, who was running a company with a long standing debt is considered a worthy cause, a success, a technology pioneer. She obviously must have some other well hidden talents.
    Would the jewish religion really allow it’s followers to receive xenotransplanted organs, or would they only be used by the common riff-raff?
    Reading this now makes one wonder though about the short comings of the Microsoft programs, how often they need patches to secure a weak area in their programming, especially now that it appears that they have convoluted links to the Israelis as well.
    The more one reads about these people, the elite, the more they seem to be an inbred bunch of hanger-ons, all kissing up to one another.

  54. @Abdul Alhazred

    More word salad.

    Can’t you express yourself in plain English? Your prose reminds me of book authors that spend pages upon pages painting mental pictures of the sky and surroundings before making the next critical point to move the actual story along.

    You may want to look up Professor Irwin Corey on Youtube as he’s the model for your writing style.

  55. @Schuetze

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world that he doesn’t exist.

    Satan edited the worst parts of his own story out of the history of the Israelites who were not only his descendants but were also the scribes who first recorded the words in the books and then edited them later.

    The children of Satan continue in the tradition of deception of their father the devil by the political power afforded to them through the governing bodies of the secular state of Satan (((Israel))).

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  56. @Leo Den

    So Fauci and the dems are let off the hook again. Just as he was mismanaging the aids crisis. I see. Also Trump did NOT unleash the Cov.,19 virus on the world but while it began and was raging away, all the democrats cared about was getting Trump. Plain SICK.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  57. Katy says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Melanie Walker is certainly an interesting case. But check out also Nicole Junkermann for how these demimonde women can reach far into the highest levels of global power.

    For a more obvious example see our future president, Ms. Harris.

  58. Corvinus says:

    Mr. Webb, I look forward to your next in depth article about Donald Trump’s cozy relationship with Jeffery Epstein and Bill Gates. I mean, you do want to get to the bottom of it all, right, considering what you have written previously.

    Wexner, in addition to his other close financial ties to Epstein, was involved in several Manhattan real estate deals with Epstein and Epstein’s brother Mark while Donald Trump was then best known for his career as a New York property developer and real estate mogul. Trump is also cited in a separate article from January 2001 as being good friends with both Prince Andrew and his ex-wife. In addition, this article’s claim regarding Epstein’s most notable “business links” in 2001 contradicts Bill Gates’ recent assertions that he never had any business relationship with Epstein and did not meet with him until 2013.

    ..,

    Indeed, in examining Epstein’s involvement in real estate markets, particularly in New York, it becomes clear that those activities have no shortage of controversial tie-ins to the current U.S. presidential administration as well as major New York power players involved in suspect financial activity immediately prior to the September 11 attacks as well as the 2008 financial crisis. All of those connections and more will be explored in MintPress’ upcoming investigative series on the financial crimes of Jeffrey Epstein and their broader implications.

    • Agree: Bugey libre
    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  59. Hi Whitney, leaking the info about your upcoming book is a boo boo. It could prove costly.

    • Replies: @lysias
  60. @RoatanBill

    How about packing content above your IQ level.
    Capisce!

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  61. TKK says:

    At a recent family law continuing legal education class (via Zoom), Gates divorce was on the informal discussion list. We were admonished, as adult divorce lawyers, that we could not speak about the following:

    1.) No whackadoodle conspiracy theories please. I don’t want to hear about microchips planted in babies or anti-vax lunacy.

    2.) The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation does amazing work around the globe to eradicate HIV, malaria, COVID-19. They spend more on world health than the World Health Organization does. Heck, they contributed nearly 10 percent of the WHO’s budget.

    Not every gazillionaire gives this kind of money away or has saved millions of lives through disease prevention and access to health care, so please leave the Gates Foundation out of it.

    So, of course, I virtually raised my hand and said:

    Bill Gates could break bread with anyone on the planet. Anyone. He has a minion place a call and the world is his.

    And he chooses to spend time with Epstein? EPSTEIN? You can look at the guy and tell he is a POS.
    The ultra rich know who they spend time with- Gates knew the guy was a little girl monster.

    I was blocked from speaking further and kicked off that discussion panel.

    I emailed the facilitator and said: Do you think Gates is going to send you a gift or something? You are about 40 years too old for his tastes.

    Facilitator not Jewish. But, marching orders? Or just spineless sycophantic moron?

    • Thanks: Morton's toes
    • Replies: @Bugey libre
    , @Curle
  62. Schuetze says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    I don’t have to believe in the Devil/Satan/Lucifer in order to believe that others do. The exact same thing applies to god, and there are enough suicide bombers spread across the planet to to prove how fanatic some people are in their belief.

    One of the reasons I am often skeptical about the existence of a god is the number of different religions, and their “variants”, that profess to be the only ones who have found the one true god. If there is a god, and he is all powerful, why would he allow so many counterfeiters to exist?

    On the other side of the coin, there seems to be only one Satan that all these evil people believe in. This seems obvious to me because we never hear or see about different satanic sects engaging in world wars or mass slaughter of other satanic sects. It is the existence of this one, unified, mostly judaic source of evil that makes me doubt my own doubts about the existence of god.

    • Agree: Mehen
    • Replies: @UR2
    , @Polemos
  63. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    I jumped off the Trump train long ago, but I do not believe that Trump had much involvement with Epstein.

    From what I have read, Trump might have hitched one ride to Florida on Epstein’s plane. Trump did not visit Pedo Island.

    Clinton went to Pedo Island 26 times.

    The nose went after Trump hard for YEARS, and if they had any real evidence of pedophilia, or any real evidence of ANYTHING, we would have heard of it by now.

    I could see both Clinton and Gates having sex with underage girls….can’t see it with Trump.

    And yes, Trump is Zion Don, and he sold us out for sure. I just don’t believe he fucks children.

  64. @Abdul Alhazred

    How about packing content above your IQ level.

    I have no idea what that means.

    Since my IQ is in the top 2% world wide, I’m not taking advice from you even if I could understand your world salad responses.

    BTW – Professor Corey is dead, so you might want to try picking up his act. He was funny, and I bet you could be too if you tried.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    , @jihadijew
  65. profnasty says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Cover-up? More like facial. Fauci gave US a facial. He covered our faces with…well, you see where I’m going with this. Should we thank him, or tie him to our bumper and take him for a ride? You decide. Me? I’m gonna walk away and pretend it never happened.
    As his many blonde teenage girls used to say, “Every time I look around, it’s in my face.”

    • Replies: @Gaspar DeLaFunk
  66. Schuetze says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Virginia Roberts, one of Epsteins teeny whores, was hired away from Trump’s Mara Lago at the age of 15. She was a run-away drug addicted street whore until Trump “discovered” her talents.

    Melania was a porn-star whore until Ghislane Maxwell “joined” Trump and her together. To me, Melania looks like a MKUltra beta sex kitten.

    Trump was also a beauty pageant judge working closely with Victorias secret and Les Wexner.

  67. Whitney Webb is controlled opposition. Controlled opposition is often unaware it is controlled opposition. If she was legit, and not “fugazi,” she would have been Gary Webb’d a long time ago.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  68. Leo Den says:
    @Robert Dolan

    When you’re in the company of Zionists, you go for what they go for. You do what they tell you to do. Besides, why do you think Trump was so Zionist. They got him on video as well.

    Methink you’re still high on the Trump Kool-Aid.

    They’re all pedophiles.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  69. I sense that the Zorro Ranch was a cover for the CIA body-parts, organ-harvesting, mind-altering, and other nefarious activities – more than just sex-for-blackmail;

    – close to the (open) Southern Border (easy to bring in and disappear subjects for whatever purpose); too remote; too hidden; too strategic; could also have been used as a secret UFO base or research center or tele-transportation research site; zero-gravity, zero point energy, Tesla (the real one), etc; Epstein claimed ‘interest’ in all this esoteric-physics; was it as a participant? or as an on-looker?

    Richardson as Governor, then in the Clinton White House; all too fucking cozy; Yellow-cake seems likely too somehow; an Israeli military site secretly embedded in the Continental US?

    Epstein might have been ‘cover’ in the same way Howard Hughes was cover for Project Azorian.

    Another Mena, Arkansas-type site, only larger and with far more potential capabilities. And not far from Dulce, Los Alamos, and White Sands.

    Surely, Zorro Ranch is far more – somehow – than initially meets the eye.

    • Replies: @Humpty
  70. Thomasina says:
    @RoatanBill

    I don’t know much about Joplin, Hendrix or Cobaine, but to me Jim Morrison’s death was a real loss. Highly intelligent, read anything he could get his hands on, read most of the classics in his teenage years, loved writing poetry, and who really just fell into the music industry by accident.

    His real love was not music. He did not like performing on stage, but felt he owed the people, who had paid a lot of money for the tickets, an over-the-top performance. Drugs helped in that respect, helped him put on a show.

    He was also the son of an admiral in the U.S. Navy. I don’t think his father or mother ever listened to his music, even after his death. His father said all he knew was the line “light my fire”.

    Given a little more time, I believe Jim Morrison would have left the music industry altogether. As such, I find it a loss, not for society, but for him.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Getaclue
  71. lysias says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    Whitney Webb should make arrangements for her book to be published in the event of something happening to her, and let it be known that she has done so.

  72. @RoatanBill

    Top 2%! Wow. That’s exciting 🙂

    • Agree: Sean
    • LOL: Schuetze
  73. @TKK

    thanks for sharing. I am always amazed at the “moronity” of some of our so called fellow human beings…

    Take care, you are a real person.

    • Thanks: TKK
  74. DanFromCT says:
    @TGD

    Wow, even if Webb’s expose is only half true . . .

    I’m sure what you meant to say was, “Wow, given that Webb’s exposé hardly scratches the surface, the rottenness of the global Jew-ridden elites is truly mind boggling.”

    • Replies: @TGD
  75. . . .my upcoming book One Nation Under Blackmail,

    Bring it on.

    I wonder what the movie rights will sell for?

  76. @Thomasina

    All these people that get pulled into the celebrity life style and then die early due to that life style are the mentally weak of the type. Others have managed to outlive their peak years of being a rock star or actor/actress to live more quiet lives on the fortunes they earned by being involved in the slow but steady destruction of the society.

    The (((controllers))) they worked for had the long game planned out. The bit players were chosen for their weakness and desire to be famous. None of them should be looked up to as role models.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  77. @Leo Den

    he and his Zionist buddies were the ones that unleashed Covid 19 on the world.

    You have the photo or other documentation of that, I presume.
    The entire COVID narrative is managed, and that includes Trump’s “China did it” brayings. Assuming that Dr. Reiner Fuellmich’s assertion – the COVID19 virus is not real, rather a computer generated model – is incorrect, there is no explanation of how, short of inventing a time machine, China or Trump’s Zionist buddies were able to get the virus into Italian patients’ blood samples in September 2019, and Spanish sewage water samples in March of 2019. It also doesn’t explain how or why, in 2017, Fauci guaranteed a pandemic during Trump’s term.

    The current narrative of “an investigation into the origins of the Covid19 virus” like any government investigation, is meant to lead away from the truth. The “origins” of the virus are in the US.

    As I have said from the beginning, there is a lot not to like about Trump, but keep things in the realm of reality.

    • Agree: nosquat loquat
  78. Getaclue says:
    @RoatanBill

    Then again you could have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and yet be convinced you are right and brilliant? Millions saw the truth in Zeitoun, Egypt in 1968, many miracles occurred, my MD friend’s partner, another well respected MD, was there and saw it — it happened…of course it doesn’t/can’t exist in your world view “because there’s no soul”….:

    https://www.churchpop.com/2016/03/15/witnessed-millions-unexplanable-apparition-lady-zeitoun/

    “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”—Charles Baudelaire
    “The second greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he is the good guy”—Ken Ammi”

  79. @sally

    Good question, Sal! What would they do? In case of say, Bob Menendez of New Jersey, they can blackmail his fat arse to support the causes espoused by the Jew, for screwing little boys in the Dominican Republic. Because that pathetic fuck doesn’t have the money to overcome his new “masters.”

    But when it comes to a man, who was richer than the Rockefellers for a very long time and might still be the richest man in the world, when one takes into account his hidden assets and also the vagaries of the stock market that effect the likes of Musk or Bezos, Bill Gates is beyond their reach. If anything, he is the hidden Jew to whom YHWH talks to directly about the world government, bypassing the Mossad.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  80. So complex, so intertwined this article should have been broken into a dozen chapters. Give a bloke a chance to let the smell drift on a breeze.

  81. @Schuetze

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/donald-trump-helped-build-a-case-against-jeffrey-epstein/

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/real-trump-epstein-relationship-former-president-clinton-partied-epstein-orgy-island-citizen-trumps-relationship-mostly-adversarial/

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/prosecutor-in-2009-epstein-case-said-donald-trump-was-the-only-one-who-helped-him/

    Melania was not a porn star. Let’s try to speak truth.
    Trump didn’t need a pimp…..he’s crazy rich….always had access to beautiful women.
    Like I said before (and I am sure I’m right) if the nose REALLY had something on Trump they would have come out with it. Also, as I said before, I jumped off the Trump train long ago. However, as much as Trump failed America First, he was still better than I Hate White People Biden The Total Shill For The Jews.

    I can make one observation that you can take to the bank…..women LOVE rich and famous men. Rich/famous men don’t need pimps. A 22 year old drop dead gorgeous model will do ANYTHING, jump through any hoop, to get near power and wealth.

    • Agree: Curmudgeon, Getaclue
    • Replies: @Meimou
    , @Alden
    , @Schuetze
  82. Getaclue says:
    @Thomasina

    Lots of high weirdness around Jim Morrison — like his Father the Admiral helping to start the Viet Nam War based on total bs:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jim-morrisons-dad-had-a-hand-in-starting-the-vietnam-war-2016-3#:~:text=It’s%20fairly%20well%20known%20to,officer%20in%20the%20US%20Navy.&text=In%20August%20of%201964%20Morrison,off%20the%20coast%20of%20Vietnam.

    Morrison is another Laurel Canyon type — so much weirdness — who knows what the “truth” was/is but it definitely isn’t what we were told by the Mainslime Media — “hippies” LOL….:

    http://jeffreykeeten.com/blog/weird-scenes-inside-the-canyon-by-david-mcgowan

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Sparkon
  83. Nancy says:
    @RoatanBill

    Well the whole music/movies/MSM is, and has been for a long time, the tool of Parasitic Termites – just read the Talmud to find out what their goal is. And the denizens of Laurel Canyon served their Purpose… keeping us focused on them, and not on Them.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  84. @A Half Naked Fakir

    Isn’t Gates a Congregationalist?

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  85. jihadijew says:
    @RoatanBill

    Great comments about these guys who spent hours on cutting and pasting other people’s thoughts and loose their own when pasting it.
    This is a very common theme on this site. There is a competition among these delusional intellectuals. They will write a lot and at the end of the day, zero substance.
    Go far it.

  86. @Dumbo

    The pimp story is not enough to justify it.

    There are several layers to this.
    – Jews are usually tribal. They all seem to know or minimally be acquainted with a lot of others in the tribe.
    – There are people like Epstein, Jews and non-Jews that seek out people the that may, at some time, be of use to them, and “befriend” them. Giving them rides on a private jet is one way to soften them up. Sometimes, a ride is just a ride. The old saw about “me and my closest 250 friends” applies here.
    – Whitney Webb uses a lot of terms that imply. Words like “tie” imply a close relationship. For people like Epstein, that term is meaningless. People are there to be manipulated, unless they are part of the group with the same objective. Other examples are Maxwell’s “a substantial interest” in the company. Substantial means mostly all, which would relegate the sisters to bit players.

    It is unclear if the money Ghislaine received from the sale was used to further the sexual blackmail operation she was then conducting alongside Jeffrey Epstein.

    Where to start? It is unclear = there is no evidence. The “sexual blackmail operation” is an, as yet to be proven, allegation stated as fact.
    – There is no room in many articles about the Epstein/Maxwell narrative, for people to be normal friends, or have, in the case of Andrew and “the neurosurgeon” an attraction to someone. It all has to be part of a plot.
    This doesn’t mean that Epstein and/or Maxwell weren’t engaged in something illegal, but it doesn’t necessarily translate into it being “sexual blackmail” or involved procuring underage girls for that purpose, although it certainly is a strong possibility. Whatever it is (or isn’t) doesn’t make people like Epstein, Maxwell, Gates, Wexner et al, likeable people. They only see the rest of us as people to be used.
    As the Derek Chauvin fiasco clearly shows, when the full weight of the US state and federal prosecution services are against you it becomes “show me the man and I will show you the crime”. Trump too is facing that. Trial by media always ends badly.

  87. Now? What is Bill Gates going to do with a nuclear power plant in Wyoming?? Yellow cake at his disposal and all this medical stuff I just read here!!

  88. @Getaclue

    My distinction is that I live in the real physical world where I demand proof or evidence of anything and everything someone claims is real. I demand things be verified by scientific testing that is repeatable by any number of researchers.

    This has served me well when dealing with claims made by the political class and all other forms of faux authority, even those among the fraudulent scientific false professions like climate, cosmology, theoretical physics and many others. I have an excellent bullshit detector which makes me a cynic extraordinaire.

    If your apparition exists, then show me some verifiable proof. Eye witness testimony, especially of Mulder types ( I want to believe ) counts for nothing. I assume you’re a believer in sky gods or at least the one sky god with three instantiation, father, son and holy ghost. If you would be so kind as to provide me with this beings email address, phone number, physical location or any other information that could help pinpoint its location, I’d be most appreciative. Till then, it’s all bullshit.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  89. jihadijew says:
    @sally

    The blackmailee, if there is any such word like this (from now on I am going to use it) becomes an asset and comes in handy when his services are needed. Remember the first scene in the movie Godfather. The Mortician was available to fix Sony’s face.
    These balckmailee also are assigned to trap other victims, Judges, politicians, church leaders, police officials. It is a big ring.
    Information is collected on would be leaders for future use.

  90. @sally

    Your question assumes that there are actual pictures, information, and tapes. While there has been a lot of talk, I have yet to see actual evidence of their existence. If they exist, I suspect that, if the pair are “intelligence”, they are in Langley or Tel Aviv, maybe both. IMO, it is unlikely, Epstein, particularly post conviction, and Maxwell would be trusted to retain even a copy, much less the real deal.

  91. Thomasina says:
    @RoatanBill

    Oh, who isn’t mentally weak at that age? Hell, most adults don’t even know what they’re doing or why they think the way they do. For many, if they do “make it”, it’s often out of luck, connections or family money.

    I think Jim Morrison did have a handle on who he was, and I think he knew he did NOT want to be a rock star. Maybe he kept going because of contractual obligations or out of allegiance to the other band members, but I have no doubt that he would have gotten out of the business entirely, given a little more time. At least he knew where he didn’t want to be.

    I don’t put him on a pedestal, but I do admire his intelligence and hard work ethic. He serves as a reminder of what can happen when you let (((others))) control your life. I personally find it a loss.

  92. How about we call Jewish globalist-supremacists ‘razists’?

    Zionists invade and RAZE Palestinian communities and livelihoods out of existence.

    Also, ‘racism’ + Zionism = RaZism.

    Being called ‘razists’ might drive them nuts.

  93. @Thomasina

    You might want to read, “No One Here Gets Out Alive.” (Morrison bio)

    Shocking stuff.

    I did security for VIP’s for a few years, and I can honestly say that most of them were assholes, with a few exceptions.

    It seems that very few people can actually handle money and fame without turning into pieces of shit.

    As far as entertainment and sports figures…at this point they are nothing more than spokesman for organized jewry (as are most of Congress)

    Say what you want about Trump, it would have been epic to have seen the faces on the J crowd when Trump addressed the Jewish Republicans and said, “You people aren’t going to support me because I don’t need your money!”

    Of course, as it turned out, it was probably stupid of him to antagonize them.

    • Agree: profnasty
  94. Vigilius says:

    Greed goes with the lust, lust with gluttony , yet Pride (Vainglory)
    is driving force behind of them all.

  95. @Old and Grumpy

    ” if Trump’s presidency was a setup of sorts from the get go.”

    Agree. He would run as a Republican, the controlled opposition. What did he accomplish? Nada. Appealed to those of us who want border control, elimination of preferences due to disparate impact and less rioting in the streets but delivered zilch. Was drowned in vehement partisan opposition but that was part of the script. Probably the impeachments were fake as well. Only a guy with thick skin could handle the heat. Like one of those double spies who must suffer disgrace during the war and remain silent after but are quietly, off stage, well rewarded for taking one for the team.

  96. @profnasty

    That song,which was a big hit in the 90s featured a young Indonesia woman. She is now about 250 lbs.

  97. anarchyst says:
    @Getaclue

    Admiral Morrison attempted to thwart the cover-up of the deliberate “false flag” attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on 8 June 1967 by israel and lbj. This one act probably thwarted any future promotions but also showed that he was a man of integrity.
    The 54th anniversary of this “event” is coming up. Want to bet that there will be NO commemoration or coverage of this event?

  98. SafeNow says:

    “But how is it possible that this Epstein guy is everywhere, and had contacts with everyone, from Woody Allen to Bill Gates to Bill Clinton? The pimp story is not enough to justify it.”

    For some people, high school is never over. That exasperating high-school cafeteria, where they looked-on enviously at the head table. Lolita Island represented another crack at the high-school cafeteria. No other explanation makes sense. The inconvenience of getting there, and the risk of exposure — why? Not not for what they received there in a tangible sense, but for what it unconsciously represented. To be served, by the high-school-cafeteria-age girls, first appetizers, and then “the main course.” Thus, the pimp factor was, in fact, enough, for people with this psychological problem.

    • Thanks: Neoconned
  99. Incitatus says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “I jumped off the Trump train long ago, but I do not believe that Trump had much involvement with Epstein.”

    Good for you! Tend to agree regarding underage girls. But, by his own account, like a dog in heat, Trump admits to trying to hump everyone/everything else:

    “I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything… grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
    – Donald J. Trump to Billy Bush, Access Hollywood 2005

    Perhaps Pastors Jeffress and Hagee, between praying for Apocalypse and collecting funds, should thank the Almighty for Tik-Tac breath mints.

    Trump has been accused of “rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s”, as well as invading beauty pageant dressing rooms to glimpse contestants in states of undress. It’s called ‘voyeurism’ – “the practice of gaining sexual pleasure from watching others when they are naked or engaged in sexual activity”.

    Age disparity? Good question.

    • First marriage: 1977: DJT age 31, Ivana Zeinickova 28 (divorce 1992).
    • Second marriage 1993: DJT age 47, Marla Maples 30 (daughter Tiffany is born 13 Oct 1993 – 2 months before the marriage), divorced 1999.
    • Third marriage 2005; DJT age 59, Melania Knavs 35 (daughter of a Communist pensioner since admitted with his wife into the US as a chain migrant, nationalized and to SSI and Medicare).
    • Known extramarital sexual relationship #1 June 2006: DJT 60, Playboy Bunny Karen McDougal age 34 allegedly paid-off by Trump pal David Pecker of the ‘National Enquirer’ (catch-and-kill).
    • Known extramarital sexual relationship #2 2006, DJT 60, Porn Star Stormy Daniels age 27 (allegedly paid $130,000 for silence prior to the 2016 election.

    Pretty clear holy Christian Don has an appetite for fresh meat (half his age or less). Wonder why?

    Tell us, Bob.

  100. Getaclue says:
    @Getaclue

    “The Vatican, the Coptic Church and even the government of Egypt were unified in their approval of the apparition.” — The Egyptian Government thoroughly investigated it — no hoax, no laser lights it really happened — tons of 1st hand witnesses — as I said my MD friend’s partner MD is from Egypt and was actually there while it was happening and witnessed it. It was totally documented by witnesses,photos, various miraculous events occurred:

    [MORE]

    https://aleteia.org/2019/05/05/this-marian-apparition-in-egypt-was-witnessed-by-at-least-250000-people/

    This lays it all out clearly:

    https://catholicexchange.com/the-unlikely-marian-apparition-at-zeitoun-egypt

    12 Minute Video full of videos, photos, witnesses who were there, as to miracles short but thorough:

    Good book on it I obtained: https://www.amazon.com/Before-Our-Eyes-Virgin-Zeitun/dp/1579181775

    I’m not ridiculing you in any way — I was you — like St. Thomas I would have needed to put my fingers in the wounds to believe…. I was born into the Catholic Church and when I was 6 years old (they still had the actual true Mass then — the Traditional Latin Mass not the infiltrated in Masonic Cardinal Bugnini abortion) I decided there was nothing to it and I was basically an Atheist from then forward although I attended Mass with my parents until I went into the Army at 18 (they went to Mass but that was about it, no real belief, no Rosary, no prayers, no discussion, basically secular people, good, hard working Sunday Mass attenders for some reason, due to family history in Ireland, but secular….).

    During my life I studied other religions and liked the Hindu/Buddhist bit and even traveled to India. I was a serious Martial Arts guy and a Lawyer and successful. Traveled the world etc. Practiced Yoga and basically believed in that type of World View, Dali Lamaish but no fanatic….

    I had a very weird life event happen where I came to personally know something was true from direct experience i.e. not reading about it type thing if you get my drift (indisputable “facts” as to 911 were part of it) that most “normal” people reject as “conspiracy theory”– I know, don’t “believe” but know, they are wrong and the Media/Government etc. is lying but it was even more than that…– that I won’t go into here but it radically changed my perceptions of “reality” and “belief” and how you can “believe” something and be completely and totally wrong and in fact most people can “believe” something and they can ALL be totally wrong… —

    Soon thereafter getting very ill and basically terminally so… I went to a Born Again thing with a very successful Born Again friend who was insistent so I went and I was looking at that — (having fully rejected the “Man in the Sky” thing, as I see it put here, fully at age 6) — when I came across on my cell phone researching that — it really just popped up on its own to be honest, it shouldn’t have done so — Our Lady of Fatima.

    I had never heard of it. In 18 years of going to the Catholic Church (Modernist after 1966 with the Novus Ordo Bugnini Masonic Mass etc.) I had never been told about this or come across anything as to it — since I had fully rejected the Religion I had never researched it at all — never read a book on the Saints nothing…some Modernist Catechism garbage maybe I was given at some point that was laughable, about it….I was basically a professional researcher in the work I did so I unleashed on the Our Lady of Fatima question — After massive research, I determined that there was zero chance this event was made up and 100% certainty when you looked at everything (which I did) that it occurred. Occurring it meant that the Mother of God appeared to 3 children in 1917 and, among other things, showed them Hell “where poor sinners go” — I realized I was going there based upon what my research was showing me and as to what I had rejected when I was 6 years old.

    To make a long story short I did massive research and found out, that like you, I had absolutely no clue as to what I thought I knew for years. That the traditional Catholic Church is the One True Faith and that there is fully documented as to it miracles and happenings that have never happened in any other religion, not even close — (the “modern” Catholic Church, run mostly by the infiltrated in homosexuals/Masons/Communists in the Vatican, doesn’t like to discuss any of this much of course as it pursues a Modernist course that is anti-Traditional and protestant or worse….). I discovered that Saints are not just “good people” but many of them had direct encounters with Christ and/or his Mother and thereafter documented miracles occurred. This Crucifix coming alive was also widely witnessed and documented:

    https://www.miraclesofthechurch.com/2010/10/miraculous-crucifix-of-limpias-jesus.html

    If you look at this site it is a good jumping off point to see, if you can have an open mind, the fact that the truth is not hidden but glaringly obvious if you will actually look seriously and in good faith: https://www.miraclesofthechurch.com/

    The Catholic Church has been thoroughly infiltrated by its enemies Masons/Satanists/Modernists/Active Homosexuals (often high ranking “Clergy”are all 3 — Cardinal Bernardin, the most powerful Cardinal in the USA for years and pretty much a documented Satanist by various affidavits filed as to him, being an example). All of this was predicted by Christ to the Holy Stigmatist Marie Julie Jahenny in 1903 (and others but very much so to her) in the end they don’t prevail against the Church–but lose and lose badly — just as He predicted while on Earth 2,000 years ago.

    We are now in the End Times (not the very end but the End Times, the time when the Catholic Church and the Earth will be totally cleansed) before the time of the Divine Will “on Earth as in Heaven” — a painful period during which there will be a Warning in the not too distant future and when that fails a Fire Chastisement some few years after — cleansing the vast majority off the face of the Earth — a Comet hitting Earth type thing on a physical level. (Many Saints have been shown this fact you find when you research). My research finds the Seers at Garabandal are authentic despite the attacks against it by Masonic types inside the Church (none of them cashed in at all, the video of the Host appearing on her tongue etc…) and its worth reviewing as to what will probably hit in 2024 (The Warning) or so I would guess based on my research: http://www.garabandal.org/

    I could go on and on but won’t. All I can say is if you can have an open mind and do some serious research you should do so FOR YOURSELF and do so NOW. Don’t rely on what others tell you verbally or their “review”. What is actually there is amazing and what is happening to us now (attacked by uber rich networked Satanists) and what will be happening is mind blowing — might be a great idea to get as ready as one can? The FSSP has the Traditional Mass now just as it was basically for most of the 2,000 years of the Church– that we are told the current Modernist “pope” hates and is going to try and restrict/destroy. (We will see how that works out for him if he actually does so….). If you are around an FSSP Parish you should go in and watch a Traditional Latin Mass — it is the Mass God gave the Saints for us as Saint Gertrude the Great was allowed to see in Heaven (She is well worth researching also….): https://fssp.com/locations/

    All best to you! God bless you! Praying for you….

    • Thanks: TheTrumanShow
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  101. Getaclue says:
    @RoatanBill

    I posted a detailed reply to you but it will appear in the comment above with your comment just made. Somehow in “replying” I replied to me there and not to you. Any way– I took the time to do so when I am very busy right now because it/you are important enough to do so…– please read it if you will and consider it? All best. God bless you!
    (Editor: Thanks for posting this with my reply to him — I somehow made this mistake. Have a good one!)

  102. BorisMay says:

    Gates, just like the Maxwells and Epstein, is a vile, sadistic sex maniac who loves to abuse children.
    Considering Jews, and all these perverts are Jews, consider gentiles to be goyim (cattle to be farmed) without souls, it is not surprising really!
    Judaism of this sort that sees gentiles as soulless animals to be exploited, is clearly a mental illness, that leads perverts like Gates to abuse everyone.
    These sickos need to be hung by the neck until dead.
    This has nothing to do with protecting Microsoft but everything to do with protecting the mental illness that is Judaism.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
  103. Abbybwood says:
    @gottlieb

    When Whitney mentioned Maxwell’s father selling the PROMIS software I wondered where the Hamilton’s fit in since they developed it.

    I did a bit of research on the Hamilton’s and PROMIS around 1992 especially dealing with Danny Casolaro and his researching of massive US government corruption he called “The Octopus”.

    I think the Hamilton’s were accusing The Justice Department of stealing PROMIS.

    Of course Casolaro was found in a seedy motel bathtub in a pool of water and blood after he “committed suicide”. The only problem was that both wrists were sliced through the tendons which means it would have been impossible for him to pick up the blade to slice the other wrist.

    Oops.

    I do think Casolaro was on to something with “The Octopus”, especially considering all the research he had with him disappeared.

    • Thanks: annamaria
  104. @Incitatus

    You are such a….douche.

    What do you care if Trump had younger women? As long as they were of legal age?

    What difference does it make? Are you jealous?

    Who cares?

    Was he ever convicted of any crime?

    No. So….again…..wtf are you going on about? Are you the church lady from SNL?

    It puts me in an odd position to have to defend Trump because he was a major disappointment.

    However…..now we have a completely open border….Jan.6th protesters in solitary and being beaten…..whites labeled domestic terrorists…..an epidemic of black on white violence…..CRT being pushed everywhere…..whites censored and thrown off of all social media…..etc.etc.etc.

    White Americans are in the worst predicament I have ever seen, due to the Biden regime, and the anti-white rhetoric gets worse by the day.

    But you hate Trump because…..he had younger girlfriends!

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Thanks: profnasty
    • Replies: @Incitatus
  105. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:

    Very long, without really giving analysis. Just associations of people. And caused me to start skimming half way through.

    Furthermore, buying a crappy Internet company in 1999, that was losing money. Or having one jump or fall dramatically in valuation was pretty much par for the course in 1999. Anyone who sees this as a gotcha, when it was the norm back during the bubble, makes me question the rest of the assembled stuff.

    Also, clearly there is some finkiness associated with Eppstein. Potentially pimping and blackmail and espionage. But the article doesn’t really give a smoking gun or new analysis of known facts. Just a laundry list of how the neoliberals hung out with each other.

  106. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Im guessing most of our emails, texts, and anonymous blog comments are visible to Mossad via Microsoft because they were compromised by the Maxwell sisters years ago, correct?

    They probably have a pretty good database of those who wouldn’t agree with their wishes already.

    If there were to be a global government Id rather have Putin or Xi more than anybody we have. Least’ they aren’t chasing underaged teens and getting themselves blackmailed by the usual suspects. I like a man who knows who -not- to trust.

  107. @Getaclue

    Let me put it to you this way.

    If, tomorrow, a flying saucer landed in Central Park, showing absolute craft control with no visible means of propulsion and out popped the big eye gray aliens that claimed that the human race was engineered by them ages ago, I’d believe that as a more likely scenario than the god rubbish the religious scams push.

    What most people won’t consider is the always available 3rd option. There’s ‘yes’, ‘no’ and ‘I don’t know’. Religious people across the ages couldn’t figure out certain processes and a con artist in their midst proclaimed that he was the interpreter of a god that did the deed. The not so intelligent believed him and religion was born.

    Today, people see miracles and can’t seem to get their heads around the possibility that they are too ignorant to explain the event and therefore it must be supernatural. The ‘I don’t know’ option never occurs to them.

    There are many things we, as a population of humans, can’t properly explain. We create theories, conjure up hypotheses and some claim god is responsible. Given the track record over the last few hundred years of scientific inquiry, the god option has been discarded more and more often relying on actual evidence instead. The trend is for the whole god thing to disappear, regrettably not in my life time.

  108. Beginning to like the Jews about one and the only one thing! They have figured out the weak, degenerate and powerful people in the west. They are satisfying the degenerate’s body mid-section by the ho’s while immersing a bat in their asses and taking pictures and videos! Later on at a right time hit the degenerates with reality of either you fess up millions and or supporting their phaquin agenda or your pictures will go public! Indeed the degenerates deserve the consequences of their stupidity!

  109. Sparkon says:
    @Getaclue

    … like his Father the Admiral helping to start the Viet Nam War

    I think that’s quite an overstatement about Adm. Morrison and the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

    Capt. [at the time] George Stephen Morrison was aboard his 3rd Fleet flagship the aircraft carrier USS Bon Homme Richard when a destroyer in his command the USS Maddox was sent on an intelligence-gathering mission in the Gulf of Tonkin.

    The Maddox was tracked and eventually attacked by torpedo boats of the North Vietnamese Navy, but some accounts say the Maddox had fired first on August 2, 1964.

    The original account from the Pentagon Papers has been revised in light of a 2005 internal NSA historical study, which stated on page 17:

    At 1500G, Captain Herrick (commander of Maddox) ordered Ogier’s gun crews to open fire if the boats approached within ten thousand yards. At about 1505G, Maddox fired three rounds to warn off the communist [North Vietnamese] boats. This initial action was never reported by the Johnson administration, which insisted that the Vietnamese boats fired first.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

    But it wasn’t this first incident that touched off the War in Vietnam. On Aug. 4, 1964, the Maddox undertook another DESOTO patrol along with the USS Turner Joy. In rough seas, radar, radio, and sonar men aboard the destroyers reported various signals they interpreted as an attack by the NVN, initiating a shadowy escapade where the two destroyers did the shake ‘n’ bake in the Gulf of Tonkin, maneuvering wildly as if under attack, and firing at waves and ghost targets.

    But there had been no attack.

    That night President Johnson interrupted prime time TV (a very big deal in those days) and told the American public that two US Navy warships had been attacked on the high seas and he was asking Congress for support to counter the North Vietnamese aggression.

    At the same time Morrison and his staff told Navy headquarters in Hawaii that the radar returns the destroyers had targeted were probably false returns generated by the rough seas. Headquarters relayed the information to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, but he failed to gives those details to President Johnson.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jim-morrisons-dad-had-a-hand-in-starting-the-vietnam-war-2016-3

    Bear in mind that Capt. Morrison wasn’t aboard either of the two destroyers. The commanders of those destroyers were feeding those flawed and bogus reports of NVN attacks on Aug. 4, 1964 to both Capt. Morrison and Pres. Lyndon Johnson, who ordered “retaliatory” raids on N. Vietnam 30 minutes after receiving reports of the alleged incident.

    Of course, by now, everyone should know that Lyndon Baines Johnson was a very evil man.

    By contrast, and far from “helping to start the war,” Admiral George Stephen Morrison should be remembered as one of those military men on the scene who had tried to stop it.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  110. I always thought of Gates as kind of neuter with his far greater concern being continued dominance in the world of Windows. Do I believe he’s a “vile sex maniac.” No.

    What ever you think of his wife she has acted decisively and seems kind of steamed about this whole thing. Like she had given him an ultimatum perhaps (dump Epstein)? But maybe Bill had been blackmailed and felt he had no choice. Epstein may have had recordings?

    Between Mrs. Gates, Ms. Maxwell and others I think we are going to find out a lot of things. I personally think this is bigger than Epstein and will lead back to Israel. Let’s find out.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  111. @Incitatus

    You forgot Ms. December 1992 Barbara Moore had an affair with Trump at Mar a Largo back in 1993 with another Playmate Elke Jeinsen watching the fun.

  112. @Ghali

    As the Corbyn outrage showed, even being a life-long, and hereditary, friend of Jews is NOT enough. Only TOTAL and complete capitulation suffices.

  113. @Whitewolf

    Very good point. The answer is pretty obvious-MOSSAD controls the Five Eyes intelligence groups as Israel does Western politics. 9/11 is another startling example, but they are myriad.

    • Agree: Alfred
  114. @geokat62

    Hamanteschen are the ‘sweets’ that Jews consume at Purim. They are said to represent ‘Haman’s ears’ so reminiscences of cannibalism intrude. Little kiddies ‘play’ with gallows with swinging Hamans and his sons. Sweet it is. Purim celebrates a genocide BY the Jews, of Persian ‘followers of Haman’ disguised as a genocide OF Jews averted. ‘Rise and kill first’ as they say. To celebrate the murder 0f the 75,000 (the equivalent today of six million, give or take)victims, Jews get riotously drunk and sing and dance. Imagine if the Chinese acted like that.

  115. UR2 says:
    @Schuetze

    Recall the surprising results of extensive anthropological encounters of the 1960s.
    Every little tribe worldwide believed in God! Of course, there were various names for this entity. They all insist that God gave them life, love, corn, rain, etc. Even the Hindus are actually monotheistic. All peoples have believed that they were created and sustained through divine love. Lets wake up here: there is no offspring of Satan, and no tribe which has inherited evil. If you do evil; that is a personal decision which is carried out within your own free will. Jews frequently choose evil acts due to their rejection of Christ (their Messiah) and the, ipso facto, goodness of his teachings such as … genuine brotherly love.

  116. Anyone remember the good old days when the biggest scandal was Billy Carter drinking too much beer?

  117. RestiveUs says:
    @RoatanBill

    Belief is the absence of evidence in something you want to be true but isn’t.

    I thought that was “faith”…

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  118. Sparkon says:

    Well, everybody should know that SEX makes the world go ’round. All the religions try to control the sexual habits of their followers, but of course all religions are invented and run by control freaks who try to prevent their followers from having too much fun, especially with sex, and so there are rules.

    To get around some of those rules, people will pay big money for sex, just to get a little, or maybe a lot.

    Commercial sex is run by pimps and madams. Epstein was a glorified pimp, pandering to the rich, powerful, and famous faces of the world, and Ghislaine Maxwell was his madam. If you’re a beautiful woman willing to put out, you can go places with those famous faces, even the ugly ones.

    After closely reading every word of Whitney Webb’s incisive article, I had first planned to go have a look at Nicole Junkermann, whom I was seeing for the first time in the photo above in Ms. Webb’s article. Alas, I first had to write about the Gulf of Tonkin, so I’m running behind.

    I couldn’t decide from that picture of her with Paul Allen whether or not I’d toss her out of bed for eating crackers. Reportedly, the German-born Junkermann is fluent in six languages, and there’s always a place in the world for, you know, cunning linguists. This is what she says:

    “The concept of having decentralized information and management in an interconnected network is very interesting.

    While pondering that, I searched for her at WikiFeet, but she doesn’t have a page. Wikifeet, is usually the go to joint to get a gander at the legs of the famous. Here I will freely acknowledge that I am a leg man. I came up empty too for Melanie Walker.

    Success at last:


    Nikole Junkerman with Patrick Faber-Castell

    If you look around, you can find the whole series. I’d never heard of this guy either, but he’s a German count, or something. His Wikipedia article includes this:

    About the Junkermann Group, which he founded together with his then-fiancée Nicole Brachetti-Peretti, the Family Office was a silent partner in Infront Sports Media. This involvement earned him much negative media attention, as his business partner Robert Louis-Dreyfus allegedly abused the company for bribes to FIFA officials. In 2011, Infront was sold to private equity firm Bridgepoint by the consortium of shareholders for approximately 600 million euros.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Faber-Castell

    Another beautiful dame connected with Jeffrey Epstein is Nadia Marcinkova, or Marcinko.


    From Wikipedia:

    Over the years, several news outlets have reported that Marcinko, previously known under the name of Nada Marcinkova, worked as a long-term assistant to Jeffrey Epstein and was a regular pilot of Epstein’s so-called Lolita Express. It was reported that she was one of four of Epstein’s accomplices (including Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, and Lesley Groff) that were given immunity from prosecution in Epstein’s controversial non-prosecution agreement from 2008. The Guardian reported that Marcinkova was questioned in 2010 concerning Epstein, who was convicted of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution.

    In 2015, The Daily Telegraph reported that Marcinko, during questioning regarding alleged underaged sexual activities had “invoked her right not to incriminate herself, protected by the US constitution’s Fifth Amendment, when she was asked about the Duke of York”, who was a frequent guest of Epstein.

    According to the Miami Herald, Marcinko visited Epstein “more than 70 times when he was in Palm Beach custody,” after his first criminal conviction.

    In 2019, in written testimony given by Epstein’s underage victims, Marcinko is also described as having encouraged and engaged in sexual acts with the underaged girls, sometimes involving sex toys, at the suggestion of Epstein. In one account, according to police, Epstein told one victim Marcinkova was his “sex slave”, and that Epstein had “purchased her” when she was 15 from her family in the former Yugoslavia, a claim journalist Philip Weiss had made in New York Magazine in 2007.

    In September 2019, CNN stated that Marcinko could be considered as a “victim” of Epstein, rather than an “accomplice”. CNN quoted Marcinko’s lawyers who said: “Like other victims, Nadia Marcinko is and has been severely traumatized”, and that “She needs time to process and make sense of what she has been through before she is able to speak out”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadia_Marcinko

    Don’t you just love it when they “speak out”? It’s almost as good as when they put out, which is certainly one of the ways to get a head in this world.

  119. Meimou says:
    @Robert Dolan

    However, as much as Trump failed America First, he was still better than I Hate White People Biden The Total Shill For The Jews.

    Read your comment again…

  120. gatobart says:
    @Atle

    I can give the address and phone number of a good oculist if you want. Not that you need new glasses, oh no.

    • Replies: @TheMoon
  121. Reading this well researched article, I was apprehensive, concerned that it might confirm certain biases related to people of the Jewish persuasion. Fortunately, I see that the weird Goyim Bill Gates was behind all these horrible lies.

  122. Alden says:
    @Robert Dolan

    One thing about Trump. He was very good looking when he was younger and when he married Melania. Before his first marriage he spent a lot of time in the upscale pick up bars where all the gorgeous successful young people went to meet. Why would he need a pimp or scared awkward 14 year olds?

  123. @Bert

    Bert,

    As to Ghislaine Maxwell, maybe this article affers clues as to the reason why she could only but get involve in nefarious activities.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/514948-ghislaine-maxwell-dad-robert-biography/

    Same for her sisters. They don’t need to be ‘essential psychopaths’ since they have been tramatized in their childhood and brought to be some kind of sociopaths (acquired psychopathy), hence a more complex psychology, hability to study etc… than the usual psycho.

    We could also take in consideration the murder of her father (cos’ she always denied it had been an accident), for her life, at that point, seems to be an endless succession of traumatizing events leading to desensitization.

    Maybe

  124. Schuetze says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “Melania was not a porn star. Let’s try to speak truth.”

    Doch! Pornography is defined as “sexually explicit videos, photographs, writings, or the like, whose purpose is to elicit sexual arousal.”. Melania willingly allowed herself to be photographed naked to “elicit sexual arousal”. Ron Unz would take down photographs of Melania naked because they are pornographic, hence Melania was a “porn star”.

    I recently was looking at racing boats on youtube with my elementary school aged grandsons when I realized that they were far more interested in the bikini clad bimbos than in the boats. Where I live there is a steady stream of teen aged girls strutting around in Yoga pants like little whores. I would contend that they are borderline wanna-be porn stars. When I was that age Playboy was considered pornography, and those 1960’s pin-up girl photoshoots were just like the ones Melania posed for.

    The way that language is manipulated is one of the main methods they have used to pervert our civilization. The Silicon Valley “Tech Industry” is at the vanguard of this movement. Zuckerberg, Dorsey, even Gates and Epstein, are all in end effect porn peddlers.

    This is related to their big goal in pushing transhumanism to break down the family, which is closely related to transgenderism. One of the big SV goals is to get puberty blockers and hormone therapy pushed onto children, which also destroys the traditional family and ties these brain damaged children to the state. One related strategy here is the way they are pushing Covid vaccines on school age children and even establishing policy that these children are mature enough to decide on their own if they should take DNA altering covid gene therapy injections.

    So this ongoing redefinition of “pornography” to only mean the perverted things that get uploaded to OnlyFans or Grinder social media sites is part of the same agenda, to destroy the family and hijack the children. 100 years ago a woman who displayed her ankles was considered a slut. Today they flaunt their camel toes. All thanks to the jews.

    • Replies: @Dumb4asterisks
    , @profnasty
  125. @Morton's toes

    His mother’s family were bankers and I don’t if it’s enough to convict him of being a converso but who knows. Of course, I only meant that with the kind of money he has the Jewish god would be interested in getting to know him.

  126. ukelele says:
    @Ghali

    It´s not for the sake of Israel..It´s for the sake of themselves.

  127. A long article which I opted to glaze over after a couple sentences that didn’t relate. I was not only NOT shocked by the divorce, I predicted it, just like Bezos and the multitude of Hollywood power couples. It’s all too common, and the outliers are the handful of media darlings that actually stay together until death do them part.

    If the article began with the assertion that the divorce was predictable, it would be more authentic, but shocking? Who has time to read tabloid hype?

  128. @RestiveUs

    The word ‘belief’ covers more ground than the word ‘faith’.

    Faith is usually applied to religious issues, while belief can apply to both religious and secular issues as in people’s belief in mask protection against a virus is unwarranted. I don’t use the word ‘faith’ in conversation because I don’t have any.

  129. annamaria says:
    @RedpilledAF

    Ms. “RedpilledAF” is such a purist! Where is your own investigative journalism of the rich and powerful (and Jewish)? Whitney Webb has the courage, honesty, and intelligence to expose the wealthy Jewish-American filth. What about you?

    “The media’s deafening silence on Mike Bloomberg’s ties to Epstein and other criminals:” https://www.mintpressnews.com/mike-bloomberg-ties-jeffery-epstein-harvey-weinstein/265369/
    “Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: the spy story at the heart of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal:” https://www.unz.com/wwebb/mega-group-maxwells-and-mossad-the-spy-story-at-the-heart-of-the-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/

    There is another outstanding female journalist, Dilyana Gaytandzhieva. who has written an exceptional report on the development and proliferation of bioweaponry by the US: http://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/

    The US Army regularly produces deadly viruses, bacteria, and toxins in direct violation of the UN Convention on the prohibition of Biological Weapons. Hundreds of thousands of unwitting people are systematically exposed to dangerous pathogens and other incurable diseases. Biowarfare scientists using diplomatic cover test man-made viruses at Pentagon bio laboratories in 25 countries across the world. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.

    http://dilyana.bg/bulgarian-journalist-confronts-robert-kadlec-over-the-us-secret-bio-weapons/

    Gaytandzhieva recently traveled to Brussels and attended the European Parliament in order to confront Robert Kadlec, Assistant Secretary at the US Department of Health, regarding the number of classified bio-weapons research labs scattered through Eastern Europe and Central Asia. Kadlec categorically denied the existence of an American bio-weapon program as well as that information surrounding the labs in question were classified. Gaytandzhieva was silenced by Hilde Vautmans, the EU official sitting next to Kadlec, who stated “This is not an investigation” to applause from the audience and an embrace between herself and Kadlec.

    Unsurprisingly, Kadlec has become known as a dirty warmongering profiteer: “Head of the hydra: The rise of Robert Kadlec. A powerful network of political operatives, a global vaccine mafia and their man in Washington.” https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/05/investigative-series/head-of-the-hydra-the-rise-of-robert-kadlec/

    Immediately after the events of September 11, 2001, Kadlec became a special advisor on biological warfare to then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his deputy Paul Wolfowitz. … [In 2020] thanks to a long and deliberate process to introduce biodefense policy, driven by Robert Kadlec and his sponsors, $7 billion dollars-worth of federally-owned vaccines, antidotes and medicines – held in strategically arranged repositories across the country in case of a health emergency – are now in the hands of one single individual.

    More on the bioterrorism profiteers in the US, by Whitney Webb & Raul Diego: https://www.unz.com/wwebb/a-killer-enterprise-how-one-of-big-pharmas-most-corrupt-companies-plans-to-corner-the-covid-19-cure-market/

    • Thanks: Bugey libre, RoatanBill
  130. hillaire says:

    What a tangled web ‘they’ weave… from silk road merchant spies to five eyes..

    Nicole Junkermann “appears to be a German-born Israeli state intelligence operative based in London. An ex-model whose name appeared in the Panama Papers from the Mossack Fonseca leaks and who became embroiled in a FIFA corruption scandal with Sepp Blatter and his family. She is perhaps the closest example that you could possibly find to a real-life “Bond Girl.” Yet, she is almost completely unknown to the majority of us. This lady has recently infiltrated the NHS through the UK Department of Health and Social Care with the help of Matt Hancock MP, and her presence signifies a major threat to the data security of every citizen of the United Kingdom”

    wikispooks…

    the tentacles reach very deeply and of course the ‘pandemic’ psy-op a ‘long planned’ maneuver..

    • Thanks: annamaria
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  131. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    Let me put it to you this way.

    If, tomorrow, a flying saucer landed in Central Park, showing absolute craft control with no visible means of propulsion and out popped the big eye gray aliens that claimed that the human race was engineered by them ages ago, I’d believe that as a more likely scenario than the god rubbish the religious scams push.

    LOL, but I totally agree.

  132. @Sparkon

    The US shouldn’t have been in those waters to begin with, so absolute everything that is wrong with the Vietnam fiasco can clearly be blamed on the people that cooperated in it.

    And remember – I was just following orders didn’t work at Nuremberg and should never be a viable excuse under any circumstances.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  133. @RoatanBill

    His comments, while perhaps suffering a couple of minor ESL idiosyncrasies, are by no means unreadable, and there are usually far more conspicuous targets for “word salad”-generating in the Unz comments.

    Your objection seems to be to his metaphysics. And even on that front, he’s not offering them in an altogether dogmatic fashion. You seem to be so easily distracted and driven to a fit of vapors over the hint of a belief in the soul as to belong to the internet fedora neckbeard-atheist crowd. Are your reductivist convictions so easily bruised, that you have to rush in to dismiss the belief in any non-physical reality like this? Don’t spill the coffee on your Objectivist Newsletter while you’re getting so heated!

    As to his poetic flourishes, these are reasonably creative, in tune with his general message, and articulated within a brief compass. Why do you keep yammering on about some “Irwin Corey” no one’s heard of? Apparently even your canon of verbosity is so compressed, you can only offer one lone candidate, over and over, as if the crime of logorrhea had, till now, included one lone offender.

    Sheesh, I guess I’m being another mystic-eyed wool-gatherer too. “See Jane run”–is that better?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  134. hillaire says:
    @Desert Fox

    Quite possibly but i think it more likely Epshteen was dissected and grafted onto an AI at Langley ( he did after all bear a remarkable resemblance to Fred Gwynnes Frankenstein character in the ‘Munsters’)…

    I’m sure they kept the head and the deformed pecker he believed was imbued with ‘special’ energy from esoteric sub atomic particles (I kid you not)…

    the rest no doubt puréed and and used as nutrients for the ‘organic’ components of the…

    ‘Epshteen Machine ®’.. running on ‘Windows pedivore ®’…

    so lock up your daughters you droogees..

    ‘Jeffrey’s back’ and he’s ‘Built Back Better”….

  135. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    Your citing of Nuremberg – little more than a kangaroo court – as proof of anything illustrates to my satisfaction that your knowledge of world history is not very good, and it also shows that you are not nearly as smart as you think you are.

    You are however a crashing bore.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  136. hillaire says:
    @RoatanBill

    the mysterious CHAI :

    from wacky-pedaphile :

    According to The Jewish Daily Forward, its use as an amulet originates in 18th century Eastern Europe. Chai as a symbol goes back to medieval Spain. Letters as symbols in Jewish culture go back to the earliest Jewish roots, the Talmud states that the world was created from Hebrew letters which form verses of the Torah. In medieval Kabbalah, Chai is the lowest (closest to the physical plane) emanation of God.

    the ‘demonic’ realms..

    you see, you confuse your beliefs, or rather lack of them, with consensus, this of course is an arbitrary and often foolish take on ‘things’.. and ‘things’ of course are dependant upon ‘perspective’ and personal ‘definition’..

    your enemies mostly unseen and numerous certainly ‘believe’ these ‘things’…

    it is of course through ‘their’ shared ‘Club Membership’ and associated ‘interests’ that they accomplish the ‘things’ they do…

  137. Thanks as always for your stellar reporting.

  138. @Lucius Somesuch

    I never said the posters comments were unreadable. Quite the opposite is true in a fashion in that there are too many unnecessary words to convey a message buried somewhere within. If I had to use one word to express the posters style it would be grandiloquence; not a perfect match, but close.

    For many years, I used the Fedora Operating system, I have a beard and I am an atheist.

    Since philosophy is useless naval gazing and metaphysics is a branch of philosophy, I object to it on the grounds that it is not based in verifiable reality. Unverifiable belief systems in religion and government are the primary problems the world faces, IMO.

    My reference to Professor Irwin Corey was an attempt at left handed humor. He was a comedian whose entire shtick was verbal word salads. He could be asked any question and come up with some concoction that would appear to reply but would in fact say absolutely nothing. He was billed as ‘The World’s Greatest Authority’, but it never mentioned any particular field. Some of his appearances are on YouTube.

  139. @Sparkon

    I never mentioned you personally in my post.

    Your reply is primarily aimed at me personally. I surmise that you haven’t the intellect to refute my observations and have to resort to the ad hominem. Sad!

    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.
    Socrates

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  140. Iva says:
    @Badger Down

    Maybe the author is more courageous than others and is not afraid of being accused of antisemitism because he just states verifiable facts. It is a historic fact that Jews always, everywhere they go and settle  “played their  games” to gain something. This was the reason why Jews were kicked out over 100 times from different countries. 
    Did you read about the recent blackmail of a Fl congressman’s father to give Mossad $5M to be quiet about his son’s behavior? The article is about greedy, immoral, unethical people that happened to be Jews and non-Jews. Don’t be so sensitive. 

  141. @Mark James

    Thank you for a very comprehensive review of some major areas/players, W.W.
    Your usual high standard of real journalism, contrast with the zero outcome of the BBC request for information, for example …

    One reads elsewhere of high-level political assassinations, financial chicanery, destruction by war of Israel’s enemies, perversion of natural behaviour/morals, wholesale ruination of peoples and a now uncountable death toll since let’s say the 1897 Zionist Declaration, which I think is as good a kick-off date as any other.

    Your statement, Mark James, that

    I personally think this is bigger than Epstein and will lead back to Israel.

    can surely draw no serious objection.
    Many will already be convinced that connections to events far in excess of the Mossad pimp/blackmailer Epstein & Maxwell do in fact lead back to “Israel”.

    But what then, when such connections are shown to be true ?
    Can we expect the US govt to take action of some sort ?
    Where does the Mossad end and USg begin ? Does the Mossad end at all ?
    Are there any areas of USg that are not supervised/controlled by “Israel” either directly or though its US offices of SPLC, BnaiBrith etc etc.
    Is eg LBJ’s handling of the USS Liberty scandal a standard to go by ?
    More recently, what abt the 9/11 Report ?

    It is fortunate for those of us who are not pedophile satanist mad-dog warmongers that there now arises another power, the SCO, that may curtail this rampant evil.
    No hope for that can in any case be applied to the corrupt US govt.
    The best that can be hoped for is that US collapses in its own crapulence.
    As seems to be happening at this time.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  142. Ghislaine was really a hot young thing. Her sisters are ugly as hell. Is there an espionage school these people attend? Or is it just family connections. The Isealis are really a British colonial project and you can see the root level connections from top to bottom. Look into the Anglo-Isrealites. A bigger colletion of lunatics it would be difficult to find. But they were all very highly placed. Were I a jew I would be in rebellion against this crazy ideology. And many are. Thankfully. The english themselves have bcome a largely pliable and tame people, avquiescing in their own emasculation and deracination.

  143. @Arthur MacBride

    PS Just a brief clarification

    1) By “Israel” is obviously meant zionist Jews, all of them wherever found and not just in the fake ME “country”, including zio-trolls on this and other sites.

    2) It includes freemasons of any and all degree, people who embrace a perverted lifestyle (queers, pedophiles etc), satanists, debauchees (boozers, druggies) and similar.

    3) It also includes those who “don’t want to know” because hey the Bar’s open and I just want to carry on sitting on the fence making money …

    4) It doesn’t include Jews and any others who “side with righteousness”. This number in the corrupt west is relatively powerless but is growing in numbers and influence, such that even some of the cowards of 3) above may not end up as write-offs.

  144. To suit his sadistic appetites,

    He abused poor adolescent whites

    His fatherless cult wrote off as dross,

    And especially these most sadly lost

    He trained as bait for the blackmail traps

    To which he led his abased satraps

    For decades before any pretense

    Of justice was made, the evidence

    With his agents evanescing as ever,

    The distracted public eye glazed over.

    • Thanks: Craig Nelsen
  145. @Mephisto

    The higher authority is never named. A certain Lord in the City

    lol

    Do you mean a British “Lord” ? London ?

    Perhaps for the benefit of the unreasonably unaware among us, you’d be kind enough to name the name in question ?

    • Replies: @durd
  146. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    I did refute your comment that was addressed to me, which was not an “observation,” but a claim.

    Nuremberg was one of the biggest perversions of justice the world has ever seen. German officers were sent to the gallows based on the testimony of witnesses who’d been tortured, most, if not all, having had their testicles crushed at the hands of their interrogators.

    Confessions at Nuremberg were obtained under torture. The grimmest of these tortures, practiced mostly by Jewish operatives on their German prisoners of war, was testicle crushing.

    https://www.freelists.org/archives/patriots/10-2015/pdfmUpbgZxwKJ.pdf

    As bad as that is, it’s not the worst of what came out of Nuremberg.

    The prosecutors at Nuremberg accused and convicted the Germans of murdering some 4 million people at Auschwitz. These charges were based largely upon the supposed “confessions” obtained by the torture of German officers, such as the signed “confession” by Rudolf Höss, the commandant at Auschwitz, giving details of how he had personally supervised the murder of 2.5 million jews.

    […]

    The Presiding Judge at Nuremberg was also—coincidence?—a Jew. His name was A.H. Rosenfeld and he was a colonel in the American army. Col. Rosenfeld cheerfully admitted to torturing German prisoners of war as a matter of policy. “We couldn’t have made those birds talk otherwise,” he remarked cynically. “It was a trick, and it worked like a charm.

    Finally, if you’re going to try to quote someone, you should learn how to do it correctly, and use either quotation marks, or the blockquote tag, as I’ve done above, and also include a citation. Of course, with Socrates, that would be difficult to do as he authored no known texts, and everything we know about him is hearsay.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  147. @gottlieb

    One presumes her book will be a major contribution to truth and justice

    Sadly for her – and all of us – I suspect the truth is that her book will be “banned” (ie. dumped) as soon as it actually hits the publication schedules.

    Either that, or she (and thus also her book ) will be “discredited” and “cancelled” by some large and noisy public campaign originated by the usual suspects – naturally, for reasons publicly unspecified.

  148. @Leo Den

    Epstein never worked a day in his life and yet he was a multi-millionaire

    With several high-end properties across the globe, a private jet, a private island, vast amounts of cash in accounts all over the planet, and a money-swilling party lifestyle, the powers-that-be decided as soon as he “died” to confirm that he was, in fact, certainly a multi-BILLIONAIRE. According to the FBI, the larger part of his fortune is not only inexplicable in conventional business terms according to his known brief work history as a “Financial Consultant” – but the bulk of that same fortune is still hidden and unaccounted-for today despite their “investigations”.

    But I’m fairly sure I read another excellent article here a year or two ago (name and author have unfortunately slipped my mind for now), which suggested there is strong evidence that a huge chunk of his early fortune was simply “donated” to him by Leslie Wexner – his main New York buddy, original business “mentor”, co-ethnic, co-fraudster, and co-racist sexual degenerate with those White-only “model-girls” they charmingly refer to as “shiksas”.

    Quite why Wexner gave Epstein enough money to buy a few countries has never of course been publicly debated. Perhaps we could ask him some time – except that would be… umm… anti-Semitic, of course. Perhaps it was to enable Epstein to buy… err… the leaders of a few countries ?

  149. @Sparkon

    You keep dancing around the main point I made which was that following orders is never an acceptable excuse. That this came out of the Nuremberg trials is almost irrelevant. It is common sense logic that doing some deed that is amoral is never justified under any and all circumstances.

    I see you’re no longer in ad hominem mode and I commend you for that, but the basis of your ripost is in the weeds.

    I mentioned Nuremberg as it is considered precedent. Your issues with those proceedings don’t change the fact that it is precedent. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day and in the final analysis, the Nuremberg concept that orders from a superior do not absolve one of the responsibilities of his actions is accurate logically and morally.

    No US service person involved with the Vietnam war in the theater of operations can possibly have clean hands. Every one of them followed orders that were illegal and immoral.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Dumb4asterisks
  150. @Leo Den

    There isn’t the slightest proof Trump is a pedophile. That’s B.S. Unlike a lot of the flakes that hung around Epstein, Trump was at one or two “parties”. It sounds to me like your are drinking the leftist anti-Trump Kkool-Aid spouted out 24/7 by the fake establishment media and the criminal democratic party. Again, there is not the slightest proof Trump is a pedophile.

  151. @Schuetze

    Melania was as much a porn star as any other high end model. Where do you get this stuff?

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  152. JamesinNM says:

    It is time to bankrupt Microsoft, Apple, and numerous other corporations.

  153. Velvet says:
    @Atle

    As sexy as your 80 yo grandma!

  154. @Getaclue

    “The only secular, English-language account of the events was provided by Cynthia Nelson, a professor of anthropology at the American University in Cairo. She visited the church site on several occasions including April 15, 1968, another week later near the end of April, and on June 1, 1968. Despite reports of regular appearances of the Virgin Mary, Nelson never saw anything that could be clearly identified as such. Instead she only saw a few ‘intermittent flashes of light’ and later, a glow of ambiguous shape shining through palm trees.[4]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Zeitoun

    That’s the best that the omnipotent omniscient creator of the universe can do? Random flashes of light ? And don’t even think about posting the flagrantly faked/doctored “photos” of the “apparition.” Speaking of photographic evidence, why are there so few photographs of the event, all grainy, black and white and clearly doctored? Why no film or video?

  155. she discusses how wearable devices, brain-machine interfaces, and injectable/swallowable robotic “medicines” will be the norm by 2030. Years before COVID-19 and the Great Reset

    how Bill Gates, at the very least, not only knew who Epstein was but knew enough about his scientific interests and investments to want to hire Walker.

    Dr. Walker is an interesting case, and a good insight into how the owners of these Foundations keep it all in house. It’s a veritable circle, a revolving door for the chosen and their family and friends. The creeps have figured out how to fleece the tax payers (thank the Federal Reserve Act) through government grants, avoiding taxes as charities, donating to each other serving on each other’s boards. Hell I get dizzy just reading the same names over and over. Eustice Mullins exposed it all in his book Murder By Injection. Covid19 is the avenue they chose to introduce all this. Schools will never be the same, same with hospitals, transportation, crossing borders etc. By the way the Georgia Guide Stones are looking prescient. Deagle.com thinks so too.
    Walker was spot on with her above statement. The technology exists the patents held by the same technocrats, all to enslave you better. Great Reset

  156. Humpty says:
    @orchardist

    Agree on your line of speculation. Trying to blackmail Los Alamos employees would be straight out of the Robert Maxwell/Mossad playbook, not to mention blackmailing the border patrol bigwigs and others in power over that border state.

    Ghislaine Maxwell’s sister Christine Maxwell had some role at the Santa Fe Institute. You might be familiar with the rest of her background, creating the database that all US law enforcement agencies pool their data in.

    Christine also married the son of (communist, satanist) Frank Malina, one of the founders of Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

  157. @Robert Dolan

    Robert Dolan, you don’t have to believe Schwab or Gates or any of those cretin homo pedophiles. But you should listen. They run the show and for some, probably satanic, reason they always tells us in advance what horror we will experience. Either straight from their mouth or through their Hollywood friends, the books they write, or the media they own. Hey Fauci told us in 2016 that the next president will have to deal with a pandemic. That’s just 1 example. Here’s another from Billy Gates on Ted Talk speaking about the world population going up to 9 billion .. “through better health care …. and vaccines we can reduce that number by 10 to 15%.” Well Fauci was right, and 1000s of doctors are getting sore throats telling us over and over the vaccines are a ‘kill shot’. Well. between the US and the EU there’s over 12,000 dead already, from the shots. It’s only going to get worse.

  158. Ryan2 says:

    “Melanie Walker, MD is an endovascular neurosurgical Fellow at the University of Washington School of Medicine, and adviser to Bill Gates at bgC3 in Seattle on neurotechnology and brain science. Her career has focused on innovation at the intersection of life sciences, government and philanthropy and her experience creating partnerships between government and non-government institutions has helped foster new approaches and solutions to global problems in health and development.”

    Can she perform a quick brain surgery in a pinch or not?

    I’m going with not.

  159. she discusses how wearable devices, brain-machine interfaces, and injectable/swallowable robotic “medicines” will be the norm by 2030. Years before COVID-19 and the Great Reset

    Once everyone is vaccinated, i mean chipped, all currency will be digital. Microsoft holds the world patent (W02020060606) and US patent #(US10163055B2) on the nanotechnology. Once everyone is chipped through testing and or vaccination he will be hooked up to the cloud. The nanoparticles can assess, record and transmit bodily information which will confirm that you did the work. It will transfer the information from your body and you’ll be awarded credits in your digital wallet. Or debits. Everyone will be connected to the IoT. You can say I’m crazy, but you cannot refute the patents exist.
    You can easily look up any patent. It’s actually fun. I found a patent from 50 years ago, for an artificial sun. It is interestingly creepy that Gates is playing with the sun now. And in China it just may be operational. Why on earth do we need that? Well, i think, somehow, it all ties together

  160. anaccount says:

    I’m getting tired of the same write ups on the same cast of stage actors. I don’t come to Unz for a safe narrative, I can get that anywhere.

  161. Whitney Webb you are a national treasure! Thank you so much. You give me an inkling of hope for our country to purge these satanic supremacists from our midst. I will buy the book as soon as it is out.

  162. Schuetze says:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/aGowEjhfO379

    Your Guide to The Great Convergence by Corbett Report, 1hr 14min, really lays out the entire Transhumanist agenda and how it relates to the Plandemic. The vaccine is the first step towards trans-humanism. The first major human experiment using nanoscale semiconductors to modify human cells.

    James Corbett, even more so than Whitney Webb, has been connecting these dots about this satanic agenda of the Transhumanists. Unfortunately Ron Unz has decided that videos from the internet are beneath him, so he misses all this information, overwhelmingly convincing content and powerful supporting video evidence.

    • Thanks: GMC, Bugey libre
  163. Schuetze says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    I already proved my point in my reply to Robert Dolan.

    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/the-cover-up-continues-the-truth-about-bill-gates-microsoft-and-jeffrey-epstein/#comment-4704531

    Most “high end” models are in effect porn stars. Any bimbo who struts around in Victoria’s Secret lingerie on an elevated platform is nothing more than a glorified strip tease. I realize that you have been programmed to think that women who professionally “elicit sexual arousal” aren’t porn stars, but that is precise definition of “pornography”. The fact that many women also become aroused by the presence of these mostly naked bimbos does not change this fact. It is really sad how they have managed to pervert our vocabulary. It is truly pathetic how many self declared “intelligent” people gloat over their own perverted minds.

  164. Vojkan says:
    @Atle

    На вкус, на цвет товарища нет.

  165. Avianthro says:

    The James Bond SPECTRE is but a Hollywood-ized metaphor for the real one that Whitney describes.

    The military and intelligence agencies are actually part of this SPECTRE. They have a symbiotic relationship with it.

    SPECTRE is at any one time limited to a select group of the highest elites, WEF folks in this age, and is always subject to the classical problem of corruption by power. The funny thing too is that many of the elite members of SPECTRE are convinced that they are doing what’s best and right for humanity, and that they personally profit from that is only fair. The sheeple who follow along contentedly as long as they feel the social contract is fair, tend to agree that the elites should be well-compensated, and often dream of becoming elites themselves. The minority that would like to be free may feel this way only because they are frustrated at failing to become elites, and those who may have more genuine, more spiritual motives are simply trapped by the reality that they can’t physically live without the technoplex that breeds SPECTRE.

    All of this is not a coordinated conscious conspiracy, but a self-organizing subconscious one driven above all by the prime motivators of human behavior…basic subconscious desires for social economic status and power. If you destroy one SPECTRE, another will always arise in its place. As long as the current form of economy can endure, one based on intensive exosomatic energy and food production with ever-increasing levels of technology, the 4th IR being the next step on this path, the strength of SPECTRE will continue to grow. Only the collapse of basic energy and resource supplies, a nearing possibility that the technoplex must prevent by establishing a new basic energy and resource supply system, can stop the ongoing process.

    We have seen the enemy, and he is us…what we are. This enemy can only be tamed by external restraints beyond human control.

  166. TGD says:
    @DanFromCT

    I’m sure what you meant to say was, “Wow, given that Webb’s exposé hardly scratches the surface, the rottenness of the global Jew-ridden elites is truly mind boggling.”

    Yes, you are right. I humbly apologize for my inexactitude. You’ve also corrected my spelling of “exposé” adding the appropriate diacritic. How priggish of you.

  167. tribesman says:

    This article is a great piece of actual journalism. Puts the mainstream to shame. Well done. I really appreciate what it takes to write something like this and the investigative style is addictive. I learned something.

  168. People are fooling themselves if they really believe Maxwell will spend time in prison or that Epstein is dead especially given his CIA ties.

  169. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    I‘m not dancing around it; I’ve already kicked it to the curb.

    In your self-righteous naivete, you think you can snap your fingers and do away with human nature and several thousand years of human history.

    For all your talk, I doubt you’ve ever taken part in an anti-war demonstration.

    For all your professed anti-establishment indignities, you hew pretty closely to the establishment line by clinging to the abomination that was Nuremberg.

    You’ve never been in the military, so you’re just barking at the Moon.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  170. @Sparkon

    You should really learn to quit when you’re behind.

    I’ve related my US military encounter story on this site before, so I’ll just touch on the most pertinent issues.

    I got drafted for Vietnam. As part of the exam process, without thinking, I aced their written test and had some guy write ‘Lieutenant’ across my sheet. That’s when lieutenants were getting blown up with fragmentation grenades by their own troops.

    I refused to be inducted into the US military. I spent 3 days locked up in a barracks and had some asshat in uniform get into my face and tell me he was going to put my ass on the next plane to Nam and I countered by getting into his face and explaining that giving me access to weaponry and other high ranking US military asshats wasn’t a good idea. My basic message was ‘fuck you’.

    I’m a proud draft dodger. I ended up killing no one. I maimed no one. I refused alternative service because it’s slavery and I’m no slave. I’m now an expat because the US gov’t disgusts me.

    • Thanks: Bugey libre
  171. durd says:
    @Dave Bowman

    He died but may have come back as a virus.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  172. Skeptikal says:
    @hillaire

    What in the world is this “lady” doing with or for the NHS??

    Translating??

    BTW, I always thought that Melania—speaking three or four languages–was an asset to the presidency and the country that was definitely underused. She could have provided significant soft diplomacy if the Trump-Putin relationship had not been derailed by the neocons.

  173. Ras9438 says:

    There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, from the tonnes of information I have read and researched on these disgusting pieces of filth, their funding can be traced back to not only Wexner but also Israel and in particular The Mossad. How better to bleed more money from the American taxpayer than to blackmail its already corrupt politicians.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  174. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    You should really learn to quit when you’re behind.

    You are really full of it. You were in for a few days, and opted out and ran away. You never served. You have zero personal knowledge of military service. Rather than a “draft dodger,” I think you probably qualify as a deserter.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  175. utu says:

    Epstein’s hypnotic hold on Victoria’s Secret billionaire: How pedophile wormed his way into Les Wexner’s life through an insurance mogul pal and left a jealous Trump asking ‘how did you get so f***ing rich?’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9664921/Epsteins-hypnotic-hold-Victorias-Secret-billionaire-Les-Wexner.html

    For decades, Wexner was Epstein’s only publicly named client as a financial advisor, and the billionaire appears to be a key source of the $500 million fortune that Epstein left behind when he died in 2019.

    The article does not mention the Mega Group and instead tries to paint him as a victim of Epstein.

    In 1991, Wexner formed with billionaire Charles Bronfman the Study Group, which is more widely known as the Mega Group.[31] The group was a loosely organized club of some of the country’s wealthiest and most influential businessmen who were concerned with Jewish issues. Max Fischer, Michael Steinhardt, Leonard Abramson, Edgar Bronfman, and Laurence Tisch were some of the members. The group would meet twice a year for two days of seminars related to the topic of philanthropy and Jewishness. – Wiki

  176. The really Big Cover Up that matters is the Fauci fix happening right now.
    He denied the virus is man made as part of an elite plan to con the world into being in jected with a biob-weapon, the ConJob19 ‘vaccine’, which will now proceed to kill and maim a significant percentage of Americans and others. Fauci will be the scape goat while the Bilderbergs and Davos types get off scot free.
    How is this the case? The Washington Post, read CIA, put in the FOIA request for Fauci’s emails. Remembet the Weiner laptop and the foldr he labelled insurAnce. That was 6 yrs ago.
    Wow. Hillary is still free but Fauci gets served up to the pitch forked masses. Funny isn’t it.

    I personally think Epstein-Ghislaine will yield nothing. The elite pedo satan skum will close ranks and kill. No more truth will come of it and Whitney is chasing the wind.

    It is still a good article.
    I just think that a massive legal action against Who, cdc, and other parties who have violated the Nuremberg Code will yield more results.

    • Agree: Bugey libre
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  177. @Sparkon

    You can think whatever you like. I couldn’t care less about your thoughts.

    All I know is I have no blood on my hands.

    Can you say the same?

  178. At one time, the manners of the ruling class were admired and emulated. People aspired to the tastes of the ruling class and so their tastes became the tastes of the culture. The society pages were read eagerly by members of every class and the lives of the upper class were the lives the ambitious dreamed of.

    That ruling class has been replaced by another, whose manners inspire revulsion and outrage. The tastes of the new ruling class are cartoonish and low and more expensive. The society pages are crime reports and the lives of the new ruling class are the lives the predatory dream of.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  179. Miro23 says:
    @Ras9438

    There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, from the tones of information I have read and researched on these disgusting pieces of filth, their funding can be traced back to not only Wexner but also Israel and in particular The Mossad. How better to bleed more money from the American taxpayer than to blackmail its already corrupt politicians.

    They seem to have settled on the story now – check the Vanity Fair article.

    Poor lonely old man Leslie Wexner was taken advantage of by that con-man Epstein and now that he (Epstein) is dead (?) it’s time for closure.

    The only problem is that Ghislaine Maxwell is still in jail awaiting trial. My guess is that they’ve decided to abandon her (the evil associate of evil Epstein). She’ll get her 10 years and be disappeared in the prison system somehow to stop her talking.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/inside-jeffrey-epsteins-decades-long-relationship-with-his-biggest-client

  180. Atle says:

    Enormous mountains of money. Utterly undeserved.

  181. @utu

    One of Epstein’s victims, Maria Farmer, described Wexner as the ‘head of the snake’.

  182. @durd

    That was Prince Phillip’s promise-‘I will come back as a virus to wipe out a lot of the useless eaters’, if you’ll forgive my paraphrasing of his statement. And he died just about at the right time, methinks.

  183. anarchyst says:
    @RoatanBill

    You are full of sh!t.
    No draftee was ever inducted as an officer.
    Some enlisted personnel who are considered to be potential “officer material” were offered “Officer’s Candidate School” out of basic training to assess their suitability, but such situations are few and far between.
    Your claim to be a proud “draft dodger” proves that you are a person who is unreliable and unstable. In fact, there are many draft dodgers like yourself who hold guilt and secretly regret their decisions to dodge the draft.
    You are better off as an expat, as your lack of honor and courage is not needed here in the USA.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  184. Hirflawdd says:
    @utu

    I guess you haven’t read Whitney Webb’s articles on Wexner and the Mega Group ……. If she went into detail in every single article they’d be even longer than they already are.

  185. @anarchyst

    I never claimed they wanted to induct me as a lieutenant. Whoever was looking at the exams just wrote it on my sheet. If I had allowed myself to become a military slave, maybe they had plans to get me to the officer level so the grunts could frag me. I have no idea what their plans were. All I do know is that lieutenants were in short supply because assholes like you were murdering them.

    I don’t care what you think. You weren’t there. All I know is the US military tried to draft my as my number was 72 that year and they never succeeded. I guess you must be one of the people with honor and courage that went and helped the US murder people in Vietnam for absolutely no reason. You should be so proud.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  186. anarchyst says:
    @RoatanBill

    You were caught in a lie and are trying to wriggle out of it. There never was a procedure for military personnel to write “lieutenant” on one’s examination papers or service record book.
    By the way, officers do not have “service record books”, they have “officer’s qualification records”.
    Typical jewish behavior–caught in a lie and attempting to make excuses for it in order to nullify it.
    shalom…

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Hibernian
  187. Skeptikal says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    I think one reason that Fauci and Gates may be thrown under the bus is that their optics are just no good anymore.

    Quite apart from the fact that they are both scum (albeit slightly different variants), the mask has fallen in both cases.

    That is, when they go on TV etc. the public can *see* that these guys have something bigly wrong with them.

    In particular, I think people can see that Gates has weird pscyho problems.
    Get him off the stage!

    And Fauci no longer looks like the kindly old doc but in fact looks and sounds like the scheming word splicer that he is and that smarter folk have pegged him for being from the start.

    So it is like a few masks are falling, scales are falling from eyes.
    Exit left, pursued by a bear.

    Melinda Gates may also have decided the time had come to bring down the curtain on her husband and his (now increasingly obvious) weirdness, arm waving, eugenics talk, cringe-worthy disconnect between facial expression (glazed=over glee) and dark predictions (“it’s coming! the Big One!”).

  188. Epstein drew the correct conclusions from the lifestyle of Adnan Khasshoggi.

    Many beautiful young women can consensually be bought and sold and passed around if they think its glamorous.

    • Replies: @Flubber
  189. @anarchyst

    You are good at inventing things. I never heard of a ‘service record book’ or a ‘officer’s qualification records’ and therefore never mentioned them. You have absolutely no idea what is and isn’t possible by an individual and therefore can’t comment on if a person wrote something on an exam paper or not. You simply can’t know. I can know because I was there.

    Calling someone a liar without any proof but by mere assertion is truly a qualification for an asshole. BTW – I was born into the catholic church but am an atheist and have no connection with any religion least of all the jew variety.

  190. @Thomasina

    Great post and comments about the great(in my opinion) Jim Morrison. Not to get off the main points of your interesting post but being retired, I heard my neighbor here in the L.A. County suburb I live in playing the Doors, “Riders on the Storm”. It was the last hit the Doors recorded and I remember it being played on local radio in 1971. Yes, many moons ago. I thought how all the more relevant the song as become in today’s America. The Doors, were that rare rock group that had an almost indefinable quality of greatness. They just can’t be easily pigeon holed, just like Morrison himself.

  191. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    P.S. I get a real kick out of your posts, Thomasina. They show a wide range of awareness to reality. Just don’t let it ultimately get you down. That would be very bad.

  192. @Thomasina

    I think Jim Morrison did have a handle on who he was, and I think he knew he did NOT want to be a rock star. Maybe he kept going because of contractual obligations or out of allegiance to the other band members, but I have no doubt that he would have gotten out of the business entirely, given a little more time.

    Well, some claim that is precisely what he did, got out of the business entirely, by faking his death and moving to Africa or Sri Lanka or wherever to live the rest of his life incignito.

    • Replies: @Lancelot_Link
  193. @Schuetze

    Many of the rock stars were/are no better than Epstein and his entourage. Most rock stars have committed statutory rape, i.e. sex with underage girls, although very few have been arrested and sentenced for this vile practice. If you research a little you will find that almost all the big names,and many lesser known ones, have committed statutory rape multiple times with multiple underage girls in multiple countries and got away with it scot-free. You could start with Jimmy Page and then work your way down.

    • Agree: Schuetze
  194. James100 says:

    Maybe Bill Gates was the one running Epstein not Mossad or Cia etc. Just like Gates and his WEF buddiez are behind the Covid plandemic and not any government

  195. Incitatus says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “You are such a….douche.”

    Thank’s for intellectual criticism, Bob! Right in line with upper limits of your IQ!

    “What do you care if Trump had younger women? As long as they were of legal age?”

    Actually the allegations are about involuntary sexual assault. Illegal at any age. Cognition problems, Bob?

    All of those pious ‘Prayer Breakfasts’ orchestrated by quacks Jeffress, Hagee, et.al. All hawking morality Deadbeat Don never observed in his life. ‘Religion’ becomes a photo-op for smiling hypocrites, holding up a Bible in front of a Lafayette Square church.

    “It puts me in an odd position to have to defend Trump because he was a major disappointment.”

    Aren’t you the victim! So, so, so sad!!!! My apologies!

    Questions:

    [MORE]

    • Did Mexico “pay for the ‘wall”?
    • Where’s Trump’s better/cheaper health care plan (to be enacted day one)?
    • Why didn’t Trump address overstay visas (66+% of illegals fly in and stay)?
    • Why does Trump overwhelmingly employ H2b foreign seasonal workers (and illegals) at his resorts?
    • Why did Trump, who promised to be too busy ‘draining the swamp’ to play golf (unlike foreign-born Obama) spend an average 1.5 days/week visiting/playing golf at his own resorts? At taxpayer expense of $146,000,000? Any thoughts on Trump charging Secret Service agents $600 per night lodging at his own resorts for protecting him? https://www.trumpgolfcount.com
    • Trump claims to have reversed the USA/World trade deficit, yet increased it by $518.986 billion (17.87%) compared with Obama 2013-16;
    • Trump claims to have reversed trade deficits with China, yet increased it by $72.472 billion (5.13%) compared with Obama 2013-16;
    • Trump claims to have reversed trade deficits with Mexico, yet increased it by $131.864 billion (56.7%) compared with Obama 2013-16.
    • Why does Trump have a Chinese bank account? Why did he pay more tax to China than the USA (10 of 15 years he paid no US federal tax; 2016 and 2017 he paid $750 respectively)?
    • Why does “Advisor to the President” and “Director, Office of Economic Initiatives and Entrepreneurship” daughter Ivanka have multiple trademarks and manufacturing sites (cosmetics, handbags, clothing etc.) in China (many acquired during daddie’s reign)?

    Give us a hint.

    “I jumped off the Trump train long ago,”

    Really? Onto what? Self denial?

    You’re still the same moron you were in 2016. Now you scramble to excuse yourself post Deadbeat Donnie’s failed 1/6/21 Putsch and abject failure. That’s got to suck big time. Condolences.

    Good luck with excusing dear leader and trying to extricate yourself as fate crashes in.

    “White Americans are in the worst predicament I have ever seen, due to the Biden regime, and the anti-white rhetoric gets worse by the day.”

    Are you an American? Are you sure you’re ‘white’? What proof do you have? When did your people arrive? Do you know?

    “But you hate Trump because…..he had younger girlfriends!”

    LOL!

    Sorry: don’t “hate” Trump. He’s unworthy of genuine passion. He’s a phony (who cares only about himself). Not paying attention?

    Stay well, Bob!

  196. Hibernian says:
    @anarchyst

    There never was a procedure for military personnel to write “lieutenant” on one’s examination papers or service record book.

    That doesn’t mean it’s impossible that some idiot might have done it. You take yourself very seriously.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  197. @Skeptikal

    Yes. Agreed.
    They will toss these people under the bus as scapegoats.
    The problem is proportion. We have 65% of over 18 adults injected with deadly spike proteins; this is the actual bioweapon. They are now magnetized, ie. Great receivers for 5g and other waves. They can be controlled very easily now with MIC tech. Also, many will die and be maimed as this tech, mrna, is untested.
    America will see a population loss of 1-3 million over the next 1-5 years, this is a very conservative estimate I made based on VAERS,which is underreporting, and other data poonts.
    We will never return to normal in the developed.world. Never. I expect growing anger and resentment towards the filth at the top, ie. Judeo-masonic satanist pedophile skum.
    As a species, we really do need to take action or it is over for us.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  198. anarchyst says:
    @Hibernian

    Yes, I do take myself seriously. Military paperwork is done “by the numbers” and “by the book” with no deviation or variations allowed.
    I served in both an infantry and admin capacity and know where I am coming from.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  199. As if any of this nonsense is even remotely new..

    Look at the foundations of the auto or steel barons (the era equivalent of the tech barons). All are engaged in radically left-wing shenanigans.

    Has any great fortune ultimately benefited those from whom it was extracted? Perhaps a wise baron today might not give it all away like Carnegie, but set it on fire.

    • Replies: @bayviking
  200. @Commentator Mike

    Well when you have Jewish-promoted “age of consent” laws meant to cause population decline and the breakdown of the family in the west, I call bullshit on this being a problem. These AoC laws are also ideal for entrapping and blackmailing politicians, a la Epstein. This is what happened to Scott Ritter, for example. AoC laws are pure bullshit. There is only one question that matters: Is there is grass on the field? If yes, then play ball.

  201. Sparkon says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    The Doors and Jim Morrison appeared quite improbably on the Laurel Canyon scene in 1966 with all of their hit songs already written and the band members in place and fixed, even though most of them had no musical background whatsoever. Prior to becoming an iconic rock star, Jim Morrison never sang, and could neither read nor write music. Dave McGowan wanted to know how did Morrison compose all those great hit songs by the Doors?

    Dave McGowan:

    Jim Morrison was indeed a most unique individual, and quite possibly the unlikeliest rock star to ever stumble across a stage.

    Morrison essentially arrived on the scene as a fully-developed rock star, complete with a backing band, a stage persona and an impressive collection of songs –enough, in fact, to fill the Doors’ first few albums. How exactly Jim Morrison reinvented himself in such a radical manner remains something of a mystery, since before his sudden incarnation as singer/songwriter, James Douglas Morrison had never shown the slightest interest in music. None whatsoever. He certainly never studied music and could neither read nor write it. […] Asked near the end of his life if he had ever had any desire to learn to play a musical instrument, Jim responded, “Not really.”

    So here we had a guy who had never sang … and yet this guy somehow emerged, virtually overnight, as a fully-formed rock star who would quickly become an icon of his generation. {…]

    In fact, all of the good songs that Morrison is credited with writing were written during that period –the period during which, according to rock legend, Jim spent most of his time hanging out on the rooftop of a Venice apartment building, consuming copious amounts of LSD. This was just before he hooked up with fellow student Ray Manzarek to form the Doors. […]

    In any event, the question that naturally arises (though it does not appear to have ever been asked of him) is: how exactly did Jim “The Lizard King” Morrison write that impressive batch of songs? I’m certainly no musician myself, but it is my understanding that just about every singer/songwriter across the land composes his or her songs in essentially the same manner: on an instrument –usually either a piano or a guitar. Some songwriters, I hear, can compose on paper, but that requires a skill set that Jim did not possess. The problem, of course, is that he also could not play a musical instrument of any kind. How then did he write the songs?

    He would have had to have composed them, I’m guessing, in his head. So we are to believe then that a few dozen complete songs, never heard by anyone and never played by any musician, existed only in Jim Morrison’s acid-addled brain. Anything is possible, I suppose, but even if we accept that premise, we are still left with some nagging questions, including the question of how those songs got out of Jim Morrison’s head. As a general rule of thumb, if a songwriter doesn’t know how to read and write music, he can play the song for someone who does and thereby create the sheet music (which was the case, for example, with all of the songs that Brian Wilson penned for the Beach Boys). But Jim quite obviously could not play his own songs. So did he, I don’t know, maybe hum them?

    https://robscholtemuseum.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/David-McGowan-Inside-The-LC-The-Strange-but-Mostly-True-Story-of-Laurel-Canyon-and-the-Birth-of-the-Hippie-Generation.pdf
    [pp. 113-115]

    The other possibility, of course, is that all those hit songs were written by someone else, and not by Jim Morrison.

    • Replies: @Steffn
    , @Curle
  202. Very interesting. Ray Manzarek, was interviewed at length a couple of times on the popular Coast to Coast radio program with host George Noory. He explained how he met Morrison and what an incredibly strange and creative person he was. He believe he died not long ago. He is often mentioned as a co-founder of the group. The problem is, there are many urban legends about many of the rock groups of those days. Tommy James was controled by the mob, etc.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  203. @Whitewolf

    Worth asking but I think the answer is probably pretty uninteresting. I’m not sure whether you think MI5, MI6 or Special Branch would be interested in Andrew’s foolery but each of then, I suggest, would say Andrew knew nothing important to national security and that saving the Queen from embarrassment wasn’t their job.

    Clinton? Well, actually the same lack of relevance to national security after he had ceased to be President. And what would they have done? Say “you are being a naughty boy and we’ll tell Mrs Clinton if you don’t stop”?

  204. @Jimmy le Blanc

    The world is a disgusting place. It is awash in filth and degeneracy. It’s run by sexual perverts for their own benefit.

    It has always been so, but these so-called leaders are not the whole story.

    Billions of people live their lives striving to do good, goodness which outlives the machinations of ego-driven monsters.

    We take turns feeling down or upset over world events, but our immediate world needs us to do right. Someone has to tend to the children, feed the pets, pay the bills. It’s up to every soul to create value, for their own happiness and well-being of others.

    TL;DR Hang in there, Friday’s coming.

    • Thanks: Bugey libre
  205. @RoatanBill

    “If, tomorrow, a flying saucer landed in Central Park, showing absolute craft control with no visible means of propulsion and out popped the big eye gray aliens that claimed that the human race was engineered by them ages ago, I’d believe that”

    And THAT is what you will get, soon.

    I suspect the reason you’d go for that has to do with your personal morality, or struggle with being moral.

    See Jeff Wingo, Hugh Ross, Michael Heiser, & Gary Bates

  206. Steffn says:
    @Sparkon

    I’ve read a bit about Mr Mojo. He was a poet, and in the end was sick of being a rock and roll star. You can find videos of his father and sister on Youtube. Robby Krieger came up with their first hit “Light my Fire”. He had flamingo guitar lessons and became proficient fast. Ray was a talented keyboard player. In the book ” No One Here Gets Out Alive” the author talks about Jim joining Ray onstage at some dive bar and occasionally singing while drunk. This was before The Doors.

  207. gay troll says:
    @Skeptikal

    scheming word splicer

    This phrase is just excellent.

  208. Flubber says:
    @beavertales

    This can be confirmed by any ethots Instagram boasting of “holidays” in Dubai.

  209. @Schuetze

    Pornography is defined as “sexually explicit videos, photographs, writings, or the like, whose purpose is to elicit sexual arousal.”

    Yeah, dictionaries have varying definitions of words, reflecting their compiler’s views and preferences. Since there is no “proper” meaning of words, I prefer this definition I heard: “Pornography is any sexual material somebody wants banned.”
    One exasperated judge just copped out with: “I cannot define pornography, but I know it when I see it.” One man’s pornography is another man’s turn-off. Better choose your judges well or those Victorian table legs which you lovingly chiseled to turn on randy teenagers, might land you in jail – not to mention those lingerie pamphlets we used to – – – Enough explicit talk.

  210. @RoatanBill

    It is common sense logic that doing some deed that is amoral is never justified under any and all circumstances.

    Continuing our love/hate relation, I respectfully disagree. If you mean that an order alone cannot justify amoral behaviour, then (perhaps), yes. But if you mean that an order with consequences if you disobey the order can never justify amoral behaviour, then you are wrong.
    Some virtue signaler gave the example that torturing one’s mother can never be justified/right. So, if torturing her will save the universe from immediate extinction including her own, then it can never be justified? Rubbish. If an order to rape a girl will avoid both you and her being killed, then since it is amoral to rape her, better you both die? How about asking her before you decide. You will be surprised that most rape victims stayed alive because of exercising precisely that choice. We send tender children into war to be mutilated and maimed for the worthy causes of saving our bankers and way of life. By order. Give me one instance where obeyinhg an order to do something, or any behaviour for that that matter, cannot be justified when avoiding a greater evil. And if you are too squeamish to insert the scalpel to perform the life-saving operation since muh blood, pain, screaming – well, then better avoid doctors and hospitals and real life.

  211. @Dumb4asterisks

    The next time I need someone to come up with ridiculous scenarios, I’ll call you.

    • LOL: Realist
    • Replies: @Dumb4asterisks
  212. Sparkon says:

    At least according to their Wikipedia articles and web sites, Dave McGowan (and I) gave short shrift to the musical talents and contributions of guitarist Robby Krieger and keyboardist Ray Manzarek.

    Krieger:

    I started surfing at fourteen. There was lots of classical music in my house. My father liked march music. There was a piano at home. I studied trumpet at ten, but nothing came of it. Then I started playing blues on the piano? [sic] no lessons though. When I was seventeen, I started playing guitar. I used my friend’s guitar. I didn’t get my own until I was eighteen. It was a Mexican flamenco guitar. I took flamenco lessons for a few months. I switched around from folk to flamenco to blues to rock ‘n’ roll.

    But McGowan’s “Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation” is well worth a full read at the link I gave above:

    During the Doors’ glory days on the Sunset Strip, Morrison “struck up an intimate friendship” with Whisky-A-Go-Go owner Elmer Valentine, according to a Vanity Fair article (“Live at the Whisky”). At the time, Valentine was also, coincidentally of course, very close to his own secretary/booking agent, Gail Sloatman, whom Jim had known since kindergarten through Naval officers’ circles. Valentine was also –by pretty much all accounts, including his own –a ‘made man.’

    It was mentioned previously that Valentine was a former Chicago vice cop, but what wasn’t mentioned is that he was a fully corrupt cop. By his own account, he worked as a police captain’s bagman, “collecting the filthy lucre on behalf of the captain.” He also boasted that, even while working as a vice cop, his night job was “running nightclubs for the outfit –for gangsters.” One “very close friend” from his days in Chicago was “Felix Alderisio, also known as Milwaukee Phil, who was arguably the most feared hit man in the country in the 1950s and 60s, carrying out at least 14 murders for Sam Giancana and other Chicago bosses.”
    […]
    Valentine obviously had considerable financial backing to launch his business enterprise, and it wasn’t much of a secret on the Strip where that backing came from. Frank Zappa once cryptically referred to Valentine’s backers as an “ethnic organization,” while Chris Hillman of the Byrds simply noted that, “whoever financed Elmer, I don’t want to know.”

    Valentine received far more than just financial backing to launch the Whisky; he got a generous assist from the media as well. As Vanity Fair noted, “Within months of the Whisky’s debut, Life magazine had written it up, Jack Paar had broadcast an episode of his post-Tonight weekly program from the club, and Steve McQueen and Jayne Mansfield had installed themselves as regulars.” During that very same era, it should be noted, Mansfield was also a high-profile member of the Church of Satan, with close ties to founder Anton LaVey, who in turn had ties, as we have already seen, to the dance troupe led by Vito Paulekas, which, as we have also seen, had close ties to Laurel Canyon’s very first band, the Byrds

    Ibid, pp. 118-119

    • Thanks: Schuetze
  213. bayviking says:
    @Stan D Mute

    So now creation of a privatized Federal Reserve System is just more left wing shenanigans! Class warfare, as defined by Karl Marx is alive and well and guess who has been winning since FDR? The ruling class, in case you haven’t noticed. Just one case in point: It takes 15 million people to roughly equal the income of the 25 richest people in the United States. Net worth of both groups, roughly $975 billion (varies from year to year). Taxes paid by the 25 billionaires $1.9 billion, taxes paid by the 15 million workers $143 billion on the same income. The existence of the Federal Reserve, as constructed in the USA & EU, benefits an even more select group, in a much more dramatic way.

    • Replies: @utu
  214. @RoatanBill

    The next time I need someone to come up with ridiculous scenarios, I’ll call you.

    OK, here is another “ridiculous” example that actually happened in the state vs Johnson. Johnson was given the “order” to hold down a victim in murder to assist in the murder, otherwise the assailants would kill Johnson. He was acquitted of murder because he acted in self-defence, choosing to live – as does every soldier in thousands of instances of battle, even though the two values, his life or that of the victim, were equal.

    What is ridiculous about the example that if you do not participate in a rape then a worse lot can befall both you and the girl? Do you expect the commander to offer you a lollypop if you comply, rather than compelling you through threatening a worse fate if you disobey? You are relying on my clear incontrovertible example of “So, if torturing her [your mother] will save the universe from immediate extinction including her own, then it can never be justified?” using the pathetic ‘I don’t have to answer hypothetical or improbable scenarios’ excuse to evade the issue. We take decisions in doing things which on their own would be immoral (not amoral – which means outside morality) but are justified by the lesser evil doctrine, which is perfectly valid and guide our decisions every day. To pretend that uniquely in order situations the consequences of disobeying the order cannot be worse than obeying the order is so childish, or worse, dishonest, from a self confessed top 2 percenter IQ, that I can only thank God, even though I don’t believe in her, that I belong to the Dumbfuck rest, whose lack of intelligence apparently dooms us to greater intellectual integrity – the curse of the not so clever.

  215. Polemos says:
    @Schuetze

    This is how Descartes finds his way to concluding there is not only a good god, but one who is providing a way to know who this good God is. After all, to doubt your doubt is to come to trust you have a doubt to doubt at all, so you must exist to overcome your doubt, for without that doubt of one’s own doubt, nothing’s left out from doubting but the One Who knows knows no doubts, and what He sets up to doubt for you to find your way to no longer doubting. I’m paraphrasing, but this is Meditations.

    • Thanks: Bugey libre, gay troll
  216. HbutnotG says:
    @kapoore

    So a bunch of richie-poo guys party, and the (mostly imagined, modeled largely by changed word definitions) details of their presumed social lives gobble up press time (both main stream and alt) for months. Heh. Who cares?

    The “pedo” word is clickbait. It’s probably not even “pedo.” Has anybody actually seen any pics? But that’s where a few clarifications are needed.

    Underage does not equal pedo. Pedo is when the “underage” is not just underage but there is no hair “down there” (and by “down there” I don’t mean Australia). In days past a 16 year old girl was simply considered “young & tender” – favored by some middle aged men, fantasized by many, probably because she’s considered a non-confrontational social and intellectual “equal” (or something like that). Something other than that “administrative assistant” you have to share a bed with.

    Middle aged men usually have middle aged wives that often are middle aged both physically and mentally. The parous ones become a “mother” to everybody. That’s natural. (I’ve been in family style restaurants where at the next table, the hubby & wife are talking, the kids aren’t even there, and the husband refers to the wife as “mama.”) So one can assume that the guy’s tendency to seek young women is because, just for starters, sleeping with your “mother” is – well, a sickening thought. I suspect that 100+ years ago it was almost customary for a middle age man to have some sort of young mistress; no nosey cams, no problem. The wife is no longer pestered for sex and with no television, Maybelline, Dr Ruth, or Hollywood to model her expectations, that was just fine with her.

    But in modern times the expectations have drastically changed. The 20th century saw the female of the species change roles – rapidly. Suddenly, “housewife” and “mother” got tossed, women re-assigned, and the fantasies right along with it. In the interim, I can remember the animosity that existed between a now 42 year old mother (still lying about her age – always just by a year, lol) and her kid’s 23 year old female 1st grade teacher. I even witnessed it (and still have the mysteriously “all-C’s” report card), even though my mom told me to just throw it out (something she’d never advocate) – that scenario all thanks to my dad’s comment about Miss Joswick’s legs (having come to open house and noticing those shapely gams) – he should have kept his big mouth shut. Women do the same thing – fawning over the most passive, childish, silliest looking 18 year old boy; but any 40 year old guy is a farty pig with smelly feet. So, you see, it’s a two way street.

    Between then & now (60 years), everything has become “pedo.” Frankly, a pedo is actually a truly monstrous freak with inexplicable sexual interests inconceivable to normal people. But the term (whether it actually means pedo or not) gets headlines, sells (((advertising))), and gives 40 year old, over the hill, liberated, frustrated women something to harp about. It’s just another facet of the negative consequences of letting women out of the laundry room and kitchen; that so-called “liberation” thing. And, let me tell you, “liberation” has ruined more than a few things!

    • Thanks: Dumb4asterisks
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  217. Curle says:
    @TKK

    When thinking of Gates/Epstein I come to a different starting proposition. Gates is a popularizer of other people’s technology. If he can steal it by taking advantage of a sucker (DOS), fine. If he needs to steal it from someone else who stole it (windows/Apple/xerox??) also fine. If he needs to steal it using a spy, why not use the spy the Israeli’s use? Epstein was hanging with all those scientists for a reason.

  218. profnasty says:
    @Schuetze

    Never forget the advent of PCs and the promise of “Internet Porn”. Those Compaqs were flying off the shelves. Even today, (increasingly gay) porn is alive and well on the jinternet. Every teenager has got to have a smartphone. Sheeesh.

  219. Curle says:
    @Sparkon

    “ In any event, the question that naturally arises (though it does not appear to have ever been asked of him) is: how exactly did Jim “The Lizard King” Morrison write that impressive batch of songs?”

    You’ve worked too hard on a faulty initial premise.

    The list of popular acts who either wrote no music or lyrics or only lyrics or only music is long and illustrious and includes Sinatra, Elvis and Elton John/Bernie Taupin. Morrison was a lot like Morrissey in that regard.

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  220. Hibernian says:
    @anarchyst

    Then you know it doesn’t always work out that way in practice. I too am a veteran, and I spent a lot of time in admin, also intel and field artillery. Yes, I was National Guard (21 years); that included 1 year at Bagram Air Field, (2004-2005.)

  221. Sparkon says:
    @Curle

    Those words you have quoted were not mine, but rather were written by Dave McGowan.

    Please see my subsequent comment #213, where I wrote:

    At least according to their Wikipedia articles and web sites, Dave McGowan (and I) gave short shrift to the musical talents and contributions of guitarist Robby Krieger and keyboardist Ray Manzarek.

    Unfortunately, due to some of the vagaries of Unz Review, my comment #213 was not linked back to Steffn’s comment #207. Refreshing the page breaks the “reply to” link. My bad for not catching it, but it’s always a good idea to read all comments before engaging the keyboard.

    However, that “long and illustrious” list you gave is more than just slightly misleading. Elvis admitted he never wrote a single song in his life.

    Elvis Presley was famous for his musical prowess. The King could make thousands of fans swoon at a moment’s notice, and seemed to ooze charisma. Despite his natural talent, however, Presley never actually wrote any of his own music.

    During a 1957 interview, Presley let the cat out of the bag. He claimed that while his name is listed on the credits for several songs as the author, he’s not actually the writer at all.

    “It’s all a big hoax, honey. I never wrote a song in my life. I get one-third of the credit for recording it. It makes me look smarter than I am. I’ve never even had an idea for a song. Just once, maybe,” he explained.

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/elvis-presley-admitted-he-never-wrote-a-single-song.html/

    I think the situation with Sinatra was much the same. He may have written a few sings (Wikipedia says seven), but maybe not. Suffice it to say that Frank Sinatra wrote exactly none of his big hits.

    https://www.sundaypost.com/features/health/the-songwriters-behind-frank-sinatras-great-music/

    Elton John and Bernie Taupin are a songwriting team. Bernie Taupin wrote all the lyrics, and Elton John composed the music to Taupin’s lyrics. Presumably, EJ could read and write music, so there’s nothing mysterious at all about their prodigious output of hit songs.

    McGowan’s point was that Jim Morrison played no instrument and could not read or write music. Indeed Morrison seems to have had no interest in music at all before reinventing himself as a rock star. However, Doors guitar player Robbie Krieger at least grew up in a musical household where there was a piano, and had had some musical instruction – trumpet lessons and flamenco guitar lessons – so Krieger had a musical background, and it is conceivable that he was able to write music, a point that Dave McGowan seems to have overlooked.

  222. Athena says:

    One of the architects of this “revolution,” Klaus Schwab, said earlier this year that rebuilding and maintaining trust with the public was critical to that project. However, were the true nature of Silicon Valley, including its significant ties to serial child rapist and sex trafficker Jeffery Epstein and his network, to emerge, the public’s trust would be significantly eroded, thus threatening what the global oligarchy views as a project critical to its survival.

    For ”rebuilding the trust” with the Maxwell and friends FORGET ABOUT IT:

    The Dangerous Alliance of Rothschild and the Vatican of Francis
    By F. William Engdahl

    (Excerpt)

    http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO22Dec2020.php

    ”Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild. She is the wife of the 90-year old retired mega-billionaire head of London’s NM Rothschilds Bank, Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Lady Lynn however is from “commoner” roots, born into a US working class family in New Jersey whose father, as she tells, worked two jobs to put her and her brothers through law and medical schools. She seemed to have had some influential mentors, as she went to Wall Street then to telecoms including Motorola and made reported tens of millions before hooking up with Sir Evelyn and his reported $20 billion in assets. Reports have it that Henry Kissinger played a personal role in encouraging the Transatlantic union of the two.

    Lady Lynn is interesting as well beyond her famous husband. According to the list of names of those who flew on the private jet of convicted child sex trafficker and reported Mossad operative Jeffrey Epstein, one name that appears is “de Rothschild, Lynn Forester.”

    It is interesting to note, that the same Lynn Forester in 1991, before she took Sir Evelyn as her husband, generously let a British friend have full use of one of Lynn’s Manhattan apartment properties, following the apparent murder of the woman’s father, British media tycoon and Mossad agent, Robert Maxwell. The British friend of Lynn, Ghislaine Maxwell, today is awaiting trial for complicity in child sex trafficking as the partner of Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell reportedly maintained the Manhattan address of Lady Lynn until very recently to register a bizarre non-profit called Terramar that she and Epstein set up in 2012, allegedly aimed at saving our oceans. When Epstein was arrested she quickly dissolved the non-profit. One of the donors to Ghislaine’s TerraMar was something called the Clinton Foundation, which leads to the next friend.”

  223. Athena says:

    However, were the true nature of Silicon Valley, including its significant ties to serial child rapist and sex trafficker Jeffery Epstein and his network, to emerge,

    Some details here:

    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – X
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    – v . –
    GHISLAINE MAXWELL ,
    Defendant .

    Ghislaine Maxwell Superceding Indictment

    https://cryptome.org/2021/03/maxwell-187.pdf

  224. @RoatanBill

    Thanks for your account and you make complete sense and sanity. You have good values and this is all that matters —-take care and all the best to you Bill

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  225. utu says:
    @bayviking

    You do not compare net worth but incomes or net worth gains. Taxes are not paid worth but on gains.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/06/10/propublica-tax-leak-irs-files-show-how-billionaires-pay-low-tax/7639768002/

    According to Forbes, those 25 people saw their worth rise a collective $401 billion from 2014 to 2018. They paid a total of $13.6 billion in federal income taxes in those five years, the IRS data shows.

    Now take US median income which is 31,133 USD (2019). In five years it is $155, 665. Now divide $401 billion by $155k =2.57 million. So it is 2.57 millions of median American who made as much as the top 25 billionaire.

    Now look at federal taxes paid by median Americans:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/average-federal-income-tax-payment-by-income
    The most common adjusted gross income in the US fell between $50,000 and $75,000 in 2018. Within this income segment, the average annual income tax paid was $4,688.

    Multiply $4,688 by five =$23,340 and multiply by 2.57 millions = $5.99 billion

    Summary: To 35 billionaires wealth increased by $401 billion in five years which is what 2.57 millions median Americans made. The top 25 billionaires paid $13.6 billion in federal taxes while the 2.57 million median Americans paid $5.99 billion in federal taxes.

    So actually 25 to billionaires paid more than income equivalent 2.57 million of Americans in taxes which makes sense because after all they are in higher brackets.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  226. @GomezAdddams

    Thank you.

    What’s disturbing about some of the folks on this site is that they can manufacture what appears to be facts in their minds when none exist. I think this is why innocent people get convicted in court. The jury contains people who have little to no logical capabilities to segregate fact from fiction.

    The other is a tendency for many replies to just be personal attacks as though that is a reasonable counter argument to some opinion I put forth. It would seem that many people don’t want a fair debate, but one that they can slant by mud flinging and thus pushing the dialog in a different direction.

  227. gnbRC says:

    I like the professionalism of this essay, but perhaps there’s more to the story, especially since the announcement of Bill & Melinda’s divorce, Bill has disappeared from the vaccination scene, BLM is being minimized, riots have lessened on the West Coast cities, police funding is being restored, critical race theory is being resisted, diversity is being [somewhat] minimized, etc. – that is, social initiatives are becoming out of fashion. Take a look at these these two vids for another perspective (accuracy unknown, but plausible):

  228. @utu

    Oh dear-the BigPharma troll likes licking the backsides of the Big Parasites, the oligarchs who rule the USA, too. Little by little the troll reveals itself.

  229. @HbutnotG

    Paedophiles exist so that someone can rate lower than politicians in the public’s estimation.

  230. @Dumb4asterisks

    Looks like Roatan Babu has never heard of the ‘lesser Evil’. I bet he loves Rashomon, because it is in black and white.

    • Troll: gay troll
  231. @Commentator Mike

    Self-absorbed son-of-the-rich addict douche canoes like Jim Morrison who treat people poorly (as he did) tend to burn out. Dude was an idiot as are many people who have admiral/general daddy as their father figure. I’ve always wondered why so many officers brats wind up like him.

  232. Sparkon says:

    Whitney Webb wrote:

    In December 1999, Microsoft announced that it had invested $20 million in CommTouch by purchasing 4.7 percent of its shares. The announcement pushed CommTouch stock prices from $11.63 a share to $49.13 in just a few hours’ time. Part of that deal had been finalized by Richard Sorkin, a recently appointed CommTouch director. Sorkin had just become a multimillionaire following the sale of Zip2, Elon Musk’s first company of which Sorkin had been CEO.

    I have commented about Musk and Zip2 previously at UR:

    “Musk got his start magically making money when he started Zip2 in 1995 “with funds from a group of angel investors,” as Wikipedia puts it, cough cough, to develop “… an internet city guide for the newspaper publishing industry, with maps, directions, and yellow pages.” Gosh, all that! What a genius!

    For some unknown reason, both the New York Times and the Chicago Tribune signed up for this service, and while Musk failed in an attempt to become Zip2’s CEO, he nevertheless got $22 million for his 7% share when Compaq purchased Zip2 for $307 million in 1999, and of course Compaq went on to make a big name for itself with… Internet… Yellow… Pages…

    This shrewd move followed on the heels of Compaq’s earlier acquisition of DEC in 1998 for $9.6 billion, which was the largest computer merger at the time, but Compaq soon found itself in financial difficulties despite spending all that money. ‘Funny how that works. HP acquired Compaq for $25 billion in 2002, and thereafter used the Compaq name on some of its lower-end models through 2013, but by now the Compaq nameplate has just about blown away on the wind, but we still have Musk.”

    As for the photo above, Elon Musk has claimed that Ghislaine Maxwell “photobombed” him at a Vanity Fair party.

    Musk insists that Maxwell had photobombed him. Meanwhile, rumors have surfaced that Musk’s second wife Talulah Riley was handpicked by Ghislaine Maxwell to be Musk’s bride. Riley has indignantly denied the rumors while confirming that she had been at the same Vanity Fair party where Musk and Maxwell were photographed together. Riley was 19 at the time. She also acknowledged that she and Musk had visited Epstein’s NY mansion.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-111/#comment-4057282

    Talulah Riley and Elon Musk
    Photo: Daily Mail

    St Trinian’s actress Talulah Riley has been reunited with her ex-husband Elon Musk, the billionaire founder of PayPal – after divorcing just four months ago with a £2.5 million payout.

    British-born Talulah, 26, who also appeared in Pride & Prejudice and The Boat That Rocked, has moved back into Musk’s Beverly Hills mansion – meaning he can cancel her alimony payments.

    Daily Mail

    Of course, that was nine years ago. Musk and Riley remarried, then divorced again. After a fling or two with Amber Heard, Musk has since settled down, and has married Grimes.

    Photo: Independent

    It’s almost too funny for words – hence all the charming images.

  233. @RoatanBill

    Religious people across the ages couldn’t figure out certain processes and a con artist in their midst proclaimed that he was the interpreter of a god that did the deed. The not so intelligent believed him and religion was born.

    Probably has to do with the fact that a profit can be had selling eternity insurance.

    Today, people see miracles and can’t seem to get their heads around the possibility that they are too ignorant to explain the event and therefore it must be supernatural.

    Supernatural can be defined as, “That which I cannot understand or explain.”

    Every week, all over the world people spin prayer wheels, kneel facing a certain direction while uttering atmospheric vibrations, make pilgrimages, practic ritual cannibalism and offer up dead animals to appease the wrath of God. And yet the world still spins.

    Belief in something, no matter how wrong, doesn’t seem to prevent survival, unless it involves suicide cults that are going to join up with the mothership. Those things seldom last long.

    Rules to live by are good because they aid the proliferation of life, not because they are edicts from God. Thou shalt not kill (i.e. steal thy neighbors life) is a good rule to live by even if it wasn’t found chiselled into a stone tablet. Indeed, most of the Ten Commandments are forbidding unagreed upon transfers of ownership.

  234. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    What’s disturbing about some of the folks on this site is that they can manufacture what appears to be facts in their minds when none exist.

    Straight from the horse’s…you know…mouth.

    I don’t know how they did things in the U.S. Army, but I went through Basic training in the U.S. Air Force, and I can say with absolutely certainty that I never saw or was shown any of my paperwork other than the list of clothing and personal items I was issued in “The Green Monster.”

    So I’ll repeat what I said before: You really are full of it.

    Earlier, you wrote:

    All I know is I have no blood on my hands.

    Can you say the same?

    Yes, I certainly can. I served honorably in my command – the United States Air Force Security Service – which had no weapons.

    Your ignorance of military service is profound.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  235. bayviking says:
    @utu

    Yes and No, there is always more than one way to express the same information for the political purpose of deceiving.

    Where you are totaly wrong is when that fortune is inherited. Suddenly, all the capital, including any gain, gets transferred tax free. That is something for nothing. Thank the political operative Paul Ryan for that, waiting in the wings with his idea of a better tax system until an opportunity presented itself. It was all for the rich. Tax deductions, such as moving expenses in search of another job, or office expenses working for your employer at home during the pandemic are no longer permitted. It was a give away to the wealthy, applied retroactively without any warning, leaving most high end working people with a huge unexpected tax bill.

  236. @Sparkon

    I was never in the military because I refused induction. I have no idea how they do things in the various branches and I don’t care.

    The only contact I had was the exams and I watched some uniformed numbnuts write lieutenant in large letters across my exam sheet. You find that hard to believe and with that you call me a liar. That’s why I can call you an asshole.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  237. @RoatanBill

    Bill,
    This is partly due to the abandonment of logic in U.S. culture. We spent over 3 years listening to idiot jews like Nadler and Schumer babble about ‘Russian collusion’. These same shitbags aided by media then stole the 2020 election, admitted it in Time and babbled about how they were protecting American democracy.
    These people are anti-truth, satanic skum.
    The average person has been moronified and has followed the media down a dark road of lies. The Covid genocide, just gearing up, may wake some up but it wont matter. Corporations are hiring secession management consultants; they expect jabbed employees to die over the next few years.
    We are headed for a radical decrease in population and god knows what else.

    Thank you for being a voice of reason.

    When I was young, I used to hear a wise man say: Never underestimate the stupidity of the average person. He was so right.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  238. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Thank You

    The abandonment of logic presumes it once existed. For the vast majority of people, they never acquired that skill because feelings and emotions were trumpeted as the most desirable of traits. That’s why elections are nothing but popularity contests where even the popularity has been manufactured by propaganda.

    I spent my professional career as a software developer. Computers are the dumbest of machines that do exactly what they are told, and software provides their instructions. Proficient software developers are by their training the most logical people one can possibly encounter. If they can’t get the logic right, the software won’t function properly.

    I’m always amazed at the inability of most people to connect the dots that exist. They invariably invent dots that lead them to illogical conclusions, in essence they invent facts not in evidence.

    If x is the population of the United States and y is the degree of imbecility of the average American, then democracy is the theory that x times y is less than y.
    H. L. Mencken

  239. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    If you were a draft-dodger, as you claim, you were incredibly stupid to even show up at your induction center, but I know that’s your story, and you’re sticking to it.

    Our previous exchange, in comments 169 and 170, shows you’re trying to have it both ways:

    Sparkon: “You’ve never been in the military, so you’re just barking at the Moon.”

    RoatanBill: “You should really learn to quit when you’re behind.”

    But go ahead, run your potty mouth again, and call me another name.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  240. @Sparkon

    Showing up at the induction center was required by law, as was registering for the draft. At that time I had no idea the gov’t was my enemy. I was inexperienced in world affairs just looking to get on with my life.

    Once the Fed Gov decreed that I was to be their slave and possibly go to Vietnam to help murder people I had no quarrel with, that changed the situation. I wasn’t going.

    You are calling me a liar when you can’t possibly KNOW that your suspicions are correct. That makes you an asshole. Satisfied?

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  241. Sparkon says:
    @RoatanBill

    You are calling me a liar when you can’t possibly KNOW that your suspicions are correct

    Wrong again. I’ve never used the word “liar” in this entire thread, so I’m satisfied that you must have a guilty conscience. However, I do know how the U.S. military operates. You obviously don’t.

    No one, certainly not a draftee, gets promoted directly to lieutenant without successful completion of Officer Candidate School.

    The United States Army’s Officer Candidate School (OCS) is an officer candidate school located at Fort Benning, Georgia, that trains, assesses, and evaluates potential commissioned officers of the U.S. Army, U.S. Army Reserve, and Army National Guard. Officer candidates are former enlisted members (E-4 to E-7), warrant officers, inter-service transfers, or civilian college graduates who enlist for the “OCS Option” after they complete Basic Combat Training (BCT). The latter are often referred to as college ops.

    Note that enlisted personnel must attain the rank of E-4 to be considered for OCS.

    • Replies: @lysias
  242. lysias says:
    @Sparkon

    I got a direct commission as Lieutenant J.G. in the U.S. Naval Reserve without going to OCS. Before that, I had been a Petty Officer First Class (E6).

  243. TheMoon says:
    @gatobart

    I can give the address and phone number of a good oculist if you want. Not that you need new glasses, oh no.

    An occultist might be better, as the OP is clearly possessed.

  244. By the way the police officer who was at the center of the Epstein scandal guessed to escape to Russia and became a blogger

  245. Anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumb4asterisks

    The Akedah will flux you up. Good luck bro…

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