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A photo shows the alleged site of a US airstrike that killed Iranian general Qasem Soleimani near Baghdad International Airport in Iraq, January 03, 2020. Photo | Iraqi Security Forces handout

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Behind the official yet dubious justifications for the U.S. airstrike that killed a top Iranian general on Friday lies a confluence of factors — some decades in the making, others more recent — that are pushing the U.S. towards yet another catastrophic war in the Middle East.

BAGHDAD — The recent assassination of Iran’s most popular and well-known general, Qassem Soleimani, has stoked fears that a new war pitting the U.S. and its allies against Iran could soon become a devastating and deadly reality. The airstrike that killed Soleimani, conducted by the U.S. in Baghdad, was conducted without the authorization or even prior notification of the U.S. Congress and without the approval of Iraq’s government or military, making the attack flagrantly illegal on multiple levels. The attack also killed Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, who was an advisor to Soleimani.

“The assassination of an Iraqi military commander who holds an official position is considered aggression on Iraq … and the liquidation of leading Iraqi figures or those from a brotherly country on Iraqi soil is a massive breach of sovereignty,” Iraq’s Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi said of the attack, adding that the assassination was “a dangerous escalation that will light the fuse of a destructive war in Iraq, the region, and the world.”

Notably, the assassination of Soleimani comes just a few months after an alleged Israeli attempt to kill the Iranian general failed and amid a well-documented and decades-long push by U.S. neoconservatives and Israeli officials for a U.S.-led war with Iran.

While the illegality of the assassination has been noted by many since news of the attack first spread, less attention has been given to the oddities of the Trump administration’s official reasoning and justification for the attack that has brought with it renewed tension to the Middle East. Per administration officials, the attack was aimed at “deterring future Iranian attack plans” as well as a response to a rocket attack at the K1 military base near Kirkuk, Iraq on December 27. That attack killed one U.S. military contractor and lightly wounded several U.S. soldiers and Iraqi military personnel.

Yet, the details of that attack — even per mainstream U.S. sources that often support U.S. militarism — are incredibly murky, and the name of the American killed and the identity of the company he or she was working for have not been released. Some media reports have referred to the contractor as a “Pentagon contractor” while others have used the term “civilian contractor,” leading some to speculate that the contractor might have been a private mercenary in the employ of the Pentagon.

In addition, no group has yet claimed responsibility for the attack and media reports have noted that the attack could just as easily have been conducted by remnants of the Islamic State as by the Iraqi Shia militia (Kataib Hezbollah) that was officially blamed by U.S. officials. An official investigation into the incident, being conducted by the Iraqi military, has yet to be concluded. Notably, the U.S. previously claimed it had compelling evidence to blame Iran for attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman last June, only to have staunch U.S. allies in the region claim that alleged U.S. evidence of Iranian involvement was insufficient.

Furthermore, the U.S. had already responded to the death of the contractor, launching five different attacks in Iraq and Syria in late December, killing an estimated 25 and motivating Iraqi protesters to storm the U.S. embassy in Baghdad as many of those killed by those airstrikes were Iraqis. The subsequent airstrike that killed Soleimani seems like overkill for the official justification of avenging the death of one American.

Given the above, the question then becomes — is the Trump administration basing its assassination of a top Iranian general in Iraqi sovereign territory in clear violation of international law on the death of a single individual that the government will not even name? Even when five strikes were already launched to allegedly avenge that same individual?

Risking a regional war to allegedly avenge the death of an individual who was already avenged raises questions, especially for a President standing for re-election. The United States claims that the assassination was also intended to act as a “deterrent” against potential, future Iranian attacks, yet it is hard to justify the murder of a top general of a foreign power on foreign soil as a preemptive and preventative measure as opposed to one that would invite escalation. This is particularly true given that those that have most often sought an escalation in tensions between Iran and the U.S. and its Middle Eastern allies do not live in Tehran and Baghdad, but instead in Washington D.C. and Tel Aviv.

Failed assassination plots and domestic woes

Much has been written by MintPress and other outlets about the long-standing efforts by prominent neoconservatives in the U.S. as well as the Israel lobby and Israeli government to prod the U.S. into a major war with Iran. Neoconservative efforts at regime change in Iran have been decades in the making and the current presidential administration has several notable Iran hawks in prominent positions. Furthermore, both President Trump and his foremost ally in the Middle East, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, are facing domestic efforts aimed at removing them from office and are facing fresh elections, giving both leaders incentive to ratchet up tensions abroad to distract from their own domestic conflicts.

A boy carries a portrait of Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Tehran, Iran, Jan. 3, 2020. Iran has vowed “harsh retaliation” for the assassination of Soleimani. Vahid Salemi | AP
A boy carries a portrait of Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Tehran, Iran, Jan. 3, 2020. Iran has vowed “harsh retaliation” for the assassination of Soleimani. Vahid Salemi | AP

Yet, the current pressure facing both Trump and Netanyahu in their respective policies is only the latest factor that has pushed both administrations into a renewed and increasingly desperate push to satisfy the decades-old effort of Iran hawks in both countries to stoke war and “reshape” the Middle East in favor of the U.S.-Israel axis.

Given the recent assassination of Soleimani, however, it is essential to point out that the U.S. airstrike targeting the Quds Force leader came just a few months after Israel tried but failed to assassinate the general. Indeed, the most recent of these failed attempts was slated to occur early last October and, per The Times of Israel,

The assassins planned to dig under a religious site associated with Soleimani’s father and set off an explosion under the building when he was inside, and then try to deflect blame so that it ignited an interfaction[al] religious war. The assassins prepared some 500 kilograms to use for the bomb.”

Israel’s government did not comment on the alleged plot, though it is notable that the plan to dig below a Muslim holy site and plant a bomb has been attempted by Israeli extremist groups in the past, groups which have a major foothold in Israel’s current government.

This alleged attempt by Israel to kill Soleimani came after claims that, in 2018, the Trump administration had given Israel a “green light” to assassinate the general. The report claimed that “there is an American-Israeli agreement” that Soleimani is a “threat to the two countries’ interests in the region” and was published by the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida, which is widely considered to be “an Israeli platform for conveying messages to other countries in the Middle East,” according to Israeli media.

Israel may have planned to assassinate the general as a means of provoking war with Iran, which Netanyahu was actively promoting last February. At the time, Newsweek reported that “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has expressed his desire to go to war with Iran, and said he was meeting with dozens of foreign envoys, including those from the Arab world, in order to push the initiative forward.” Yet, with Israel’s closest ally having done the deed, Israel has kept relatively quiet about the incident, though Iranian officials have claimed that the assassination of Soleimani was jointly conducted by the U.S. and Israel.

Though the official yet dubious justifications for the strike have been given, the most likely result of the death of Soleimani is that it will “light the fuse of war,” as recently stated by Iraq’s Prime Minister. Whether Soleimani’s death alone will be enough to push the U.S., Iran and their respective allies to war remains to be seen, but what is certain is that the Trump administration seems content to continue to escalate the situation in pursuit of both long-standing ambitions of career war hawks as well as a release for quickly building domestic pressure ahead of the 2020 election.

Feature photo | A photo shows the alleged site of a US airstrike that killed Iranian general Qasem Soleimani near Baghdad International Airport in Iraq, January 03, 2020. Photo | Iraqi Security Forces handout

(Republished from Mint Press News by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. ‘… The United States claims that the assassination was also intended to act as a “deterrent” …’

    The assassination was intended to bait Iran into attacking us.

    We don’t even have the moral courage to openly and frankly launch an aggressive war against Iran. We need her to attack us ‘first’ so that we can pretend we’re defending ourselves.

    Hence the assassination.

  2. Some pimply assassin in a Nevada drone control bunker killed a battle-hardened General by deftly working his thumbs on a gaming console. For his “bravery” he will be rewarded with shiny medals signifying nothing but murder by dastardly means.

    • Agree: Sasha, Irish Savant
    • Thanks: JimDandy
  3. Sasha says:

    The Persians, unlike the Arabs, are extremely tight and disciplined, a social cohesion that rivals that of the Jews. This will only strengthen resolve, and another personality will rise to replace Suleimani, so no crippling effect there. FUKUS/Israel now relies on a hands-off approach using drones, while their adversaries are more limited in terms of tech, they completely surpass their rivals in terms of resolve and dedication, their own lives be damned. The whole concept of martyrdom. A Pyrrhic victory that will bear poisonous fruit down the road, who knows how far down the road, revenge being a dish best served cold.

  4. JimDandy says:

    America is a vassal state. What, exactly, are you going to do about it?

    • Replies: @JamesinNM
    , @Realist
    , @renfro
  5. unit472 says:

    Stick to writing about Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Whitney. You are in over your head here. An Iraqi militiaman is an ‘advisor’ to the Iranian IRGC commander?

    • Disagree: journey80
    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  6. Dumbo says:
    @Colin Wright

    The assassination was intended to bait Iran into attacking us.

    Yes but Mossad and CIA don’t even need to wait for a real Iranian attack. They may as well be right now preparing a “chemical attack” or bombing or some other false flag event in order to prepare a “reprisal”.

  7. GMC says:

    Hopefully , the Russian Generals who were friends and partners of General Suleimani, will ramp up their forces and armaments in the Mid East . Having killed the Persian General, right when Putin is headed to Israel for a BS Holocaust ceremony, tells me that the Jews are trying telling the World that Putin is in with them. I am thinking that some Russian Generals are pretty PO at Putin for being – Too Diplomatic. But Russia is a hard place to figure – at times. Hoping that Putin is keeping his Enemies – Close. But I certainly wouldn’t trust going to Israel – if I was him. Thanks W Webb and Unz Rev.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  8. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    Fun stuff…and we thought this was a job for Larry the Silver Stein

  9. JamesinNM says:

    There are no words in any language or combination of languages vulgar enough to adequately describe Trump, the U.S. private federal government, the NWO, etc.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Justsaying
  10. JamesinNM says:
    @JimDandy

    Pray that God destroys it quickly, as outlined in the Bible.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  11. roonaldo says:

    About fifteen years ago, I was startled awake by a vivid dream in which, out of a glowing mist, a scowling, imposing figure–a statue of a man, appeared. He was standing atop a blocky, grey pedestal. As the mist cleared, I could see sharply chiseled in the pedestal the letters N-E-T-A-N-Y-A-H-U. A voice then said, “if this man comes to power, then the battle will occur.” As my head cleared, I recalled he’d been an Israeli prime minister favored by the neocons. I shook it off and went back to sleep. I’m glad it was…just…a…dream.

  12. Sean says:

    Neoconservative efforts at regime change in Iran have been decades in the making and the current presidential administration has several notable Iran hawks in prominent positions. […] rump administration seems content to continue to escalate the situation in pursuit of both long-standing ambitions of career war hawks as well as a release for quickly building domestic pressure ahead of the 2020 election.

    A few days later

    Killing Americans is a lot less likely to get you assassinated by the CIA than interfering with Saudi oil production.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  13. Anonymous[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Adolf did the same per Poland. He used “canned goods” (drugged, then shot prisoners) to make it seem Poles had attacked a German radio station on the border. He needed a justification to do what he’s already planned.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @harald
    , @Old Sailor
  14. gotmituns says:

    A Dubious Official Story Masks the True Motives Behind the Soleimani Assassination
    —————————————————————————————————
    Yep, just more lies but don’t worry, there’ll be new lies coming along pdq…

    • LOL: PetrOldSack
  15. Realist says:

    Why would anyone believe anything the US government said about anything?

    The US government is the most corrupt on the planet and it has been that way for decades.

  16. Realist says:
    @JimDandy

    America is a vassal state. What, exactly, are you going to do about it?

    That has been my question to all the piss and moan articles on this site. Of course I never get an answer…just ad hominem attacks.

    • Replies: @Old and grumpy
  17. JWK says:
    @Colin Wright

    Well, that and the tax slave sheeple need to be pacified. Remember, Obama wanted to invade Syria, and failed to manipulate the tax slave sheeple sufficiently to keep them from saying “shove it up yours”.

  18. JWK says:

    It doesn’t matter what the explanation is. The US Sociopaths In Charge are in bed with the Military Industrial Congressional Matrix. Add in the Zionists along with others allegiant to Israel, and we get the perfect storm of insanity. Any explanation, even if believable, is just a cover for that insanity.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  19. Tump is betting the war against Iran will not involve Russia or China, therefore the war will not affect the US’s soil.

    By pleasing Israel in doing so, he can expect the jewish vote to help him in the coming election.

    By putting chaos in the Middle-Esat, he expects that millions of emmigants will invade Europe, which already hampered by the cost increase of the oil, will fall into bankruptcy and anarchy. The Euro will collapse to the benefit of the dollar. The dollar will also benefit from the recession in India, Japan and China due to the skyrocking price of oïl and in the US the shale business will be saved from bankruptcy.

    To make this happen nicely, Trump will have to explain to Israel that if the Israel’s situation is becoming too hot, it is better for everybody that the Jews quit the Palestine for the US instead of using their nuclear arsenal which might lead the world to an early apocalypse.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  20. Anonymous[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sasha

    When Hizbollah last went mano-a-mano with the IDF (Israeli Donkey Felchers), the latter ran to the UN crying like little girls for an immediate armistice.

    Ever since, Israel has refused to engage upclose with Hamas. Instead, it uses missiles, helo gunships, jets, etc. to inflict wanton murder cowardly from afar…against trapped folks with no similar weapons.

    Jews, in effect, treat Gaza like Germans treated WWII Warsaw. Both Adolf and Bibi thought it kosher to attack civilians they’d first disarmed, then trapped, then starved. Good Germans then… and Mitzvah Mosesians now…both look the other way while crimes are committed in their name.

    FACT: The USA killed the equivalent of 12,000,000 Americans in Iraq based on Israeli lies. What apologies/reparations has either country paid to Iraq?

    Imagine how Americans would feel if China, based on lies promoted by Russia, killed 12 million U.S. citizens AND then our president?

    The West bombs the Mideast and expects no blowback. It does so because suffering “there” remains abstract. Still, Europe is starting to feel a bit of payback, but blames it on “radical Islam.” No insight that it radicalized those Muslims.

    Imagine Russia making millions of shekels based on Jewish reparations (for shlomos having headed Stalin’s thugocracy). Imagine further that it killed 25 Americans (wounding 50 more!) after claiming ONE unnamed Chinese techie had been allegedly killed. Imagine even further that after that, Putin assassinated the US Marine Corps’ commandant because Vlad “knew” jarheads were “planning attacks” on Mother Russia.

    How would Americans react?

    Iran hasn’t invaded/attacked anyone for eons. Meanwhile, the USA not only removed Iran’s democratically-elected leader in 1953, it gave poison gas to Saddam Hussein to murder Persian civilians. America then kept Iran’s money, returning it recently via Obama. Chuckleheads say the USA bribed to the mullah when, in fact, Iran’s own money was given back.

    Those same chuckleheads, of course, joyously cheered Trump handing Israel $38,000,000,000 for doing nothing.

    In any case, the USA was in the process of killing/crippling Iranians because it felt Persians were trying to get nukes…like Israel has. Nukes that spare Pakistan and North Korea from being attacked. Nukes that Iraq-Libya-Syria lacked…making them sitting ducks for Zionist wars.

    It’s obvious to anyone with a pulse that Trump, his daughter, and son-in-law all take orders from Israel.

    It’s also obvious that Israel has become a blight unto the nations, never missing a chance to give war a chance.

    Also, every time Bababooey Bibi rants about “crushing” Arabs who can’t fight back I imagine him sporting a 2-inch boner, fapping furiously, trying to rid himself of the impotence Jews felt at Lidice:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidice_massacre

    Unable to sate himself, nutty Nettie then vents his anti-Nazi rage full-bore on Palestinians…who had nothing to do with the Holycau$t and can’t fight back.

    In short, Juden toy with Arabs like Germans once toyed with WWII Jews in MAUS:

    http://tinyurl.com/uv82ach

    http://tinyurl.com/ur3f9fb

    If Iran, aided by Russia-Syria-Lebanon-Iraq-Jordan, should drop huge bombs on Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc. (and finally make Jews feel a bit of the pain they’ve gleefully inflicted on others), who’d be upset?

    Frankly, I’m sick of “holier than thou” Chosenites acting like Zionazis with impunity. They’re Adolfians, not Tikkun Olamists. If Israel could shoah Arabs it mos’ def would. Alas, Bibi is held back by the Internet and iPhones.

    One day, hopefully soon, historians will look back at Israel like they do the USSR: a failed state. They will see that Jews were never interested in a peaceful homeland. Given others’ land and endless support from duped goyim, the Tribe reverted to type and built a huge, vile, and violent ghetto that mooched off Uncle Sucker.

    And never missed a chance to give war a chance.

    Jews endless bellyache about the very thing they’ve chosen(!) to emulate: racism coupled with religious superiority.

    You’d think that after being bounced from 109 nations… and having been frog-marched in the desert by their own god for 40 years!… Juden would have wised the eff up. But no. Israel remains hellbent on proving Hitler right.

    And Jews worldwide support it as blindly as the volk once supported Adolf.

    The wonder is that so many supposedly “smart” folks cheer such a mendacious, mooching, lawless, rogue, runt, hellstate.

    Then again, the very first folks who supported Hitler were academics. Followed, of course, by women.

    Both lived abstractly, guided by feelings, being spared consequences. So I guess it’s not really surprising that Evangelical Christians (similarly feelings-focused) would support Israel, home to the very tribe that off’d their Numba One zombie, Jesus.

    Evangelicucks believe that when all Jews have gathered in Israel, J-man Himself will return. Then…wait for it…He will act as head chef at the Rapture Barbecue and Juke Joint. He will joyously roast and grill, fold-spindle-and-mutilate any and all Jews who don’t convert to Christianity.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Just like few expected Trump, elected to build THE WALL and end useless wars abroad, would spend 3 years NOT building the wall (instead flooding the USA with illegals who toted kiddies under their arms), and then start a war with Iran.

    • Agree: Irish Savant
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Anon
  21. DanFromCT says:
    @Colin Wright

    Right. As others immediately saw it, no response from Iran is worse than a real response since it allows the false flag attack to appear as the suicidal response and cause of war. If the neocons blow this one, it’ll recoil back to 9/11, further delegitimizing the government and its footstool msm.

    At this point, the coming election here should become more of a referendum on the legitimacy of the government and both parties with those not voting having their voices counted as much as those who do participate in the farce. In my case, I’ve gone from a strong Trump supporter to the other side over this latest crap. I don’t like it when someone takes me for a moron and lies to my face.

    • Agree: bluedog
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  22. Anonymous[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @JamesinNM

    Israel?

    Yassssssssssssssss!

  23. @Realist

    Nothing but collapse. 401 k’s were designed not for retirement, but obedience. Learned that in an economics class back in the late seventies. Worked like a charm. Now that our financial end is imminent, now they are flooding the country with immigrants to act as human shields for our owners.

    • Thanks: PetrOldSack
  24. No one should forget the Saudi role in our perpetual state of ME provocation. Although it seems the Neocon Jews want full credit to go to the Donald. The latter isn’t working out very well. However no pass for the Saudis despite their oil being the easiest target for revenge from Iran.

    We’re ruled by idiots. What does that say about us?

    • Agree: PetrOldSack
  25. annamaria says:
    @GMC

    Yes. The ZUSA cannot forgive Soleimani for his effectiveness in fighting against ISIS.

    As for the zionized Russophobes, they will fight to the last American for the ghastly dream of Eretz Israel:
    John Helmer:

    The Russian General Staff has reinforced the air defences for Russians at the Iranian nuclear reactor complex at Bushehr, on the Persian Gulf, according to sources in Moscow. At the same time, Iran has allowed filming of the movement of several of its mobile S-300 air-defence missile batteries to the south, covering the Iranian coastline of the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. More secretly, elements of Russian military intelligence, electronic warfare, and command and control advisers for Iran’s air defence systems have been mobilized to support Iran against US and allied attacks.

    The range of the new surveillance extends well beyond the S-300 strike distance of 200 kilometres, and covers US drone and aircraft bases on the Arabian peninsula, as well as US warships in (and under) the Persian Gulf and off the Gulf of Oman. Early warning of US air and naval-launched attacks has now been cut below the old 4 to 6-minute Iranian threshold. Counter-firing by the Iranian armed forces has been automated from attack warning and target location.

    This means that if the US is detected launching a swarm of missiles aimed at Iran’s air-defence sites, uranium mines, reactors, and military operations bunkers, Iran will launch its own swarm of missiles at the US firing platforms, as well as at Saudi and other oil production sites, refineries, and pipelines, as well tankers in ports and under way in the Gulf.

    The law of unintended consequences dictates that one of the US missiles should land on Tel Aviv. The zionists have asked for that.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Thanks: Alfred
  26. Ko says:

    Good read, but.

    Let’s stop with the idea that there’s something illegal about killing Soleimani. If legalities mattered a whit anymore, without going too far back in time, we’d have Bernie Sanders as President.

    Also, apparenty, attacking an American embassy is a bad idea unless there’s a Democrat in the white house. Carter-Obama’ish presidents don’t punch back. As for Obama, he had no control over the military in any way except as a figure head.

    Lastly, what Israel wants, Israel gets. America will respond like a dog on a leash sooner or later and Americans will die in Iran for Israeli hegemony. And what the hell, Americans might as well die for oil at the same time. The Saudi’s might as well kick America like a dog as well.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  27. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    “A792,” we don’t need your quetching about German people; they have suffered more than enough from the rapacious Jewish predators.
    Look closely at the Jewish crimes against humanity in Gaza Ghetto, and don’t forget about Israeli rifles in the hands of Ukrainian neo-nazi — the Jewish State loves, loves collaborating with Banderites (see Baby Yar).

  28. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    “Jews, in effect, treat Gaza like Germans treated WWII Warsaw.”

    — Correct. The holobiz quetchers like lecturing on very immoral Germans while mentioning the Milgram “prisoner study” (dubbed Nazi study) into the lecture.
    The Israelis have been running this study for 70 years on Palestinians. There is nothing but rot in Israeli souls.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse, Druid
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  29. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The report claimed that “there is an American-Israeli agreement” that Soleimani is a “threat to the two countries’ interests in the region”

    Translation: Israel told it’s American colony that they wanted Qassem killed and Tubby the Grifter saluted and said “Yes Sir!”

    In pursuit of an Israel that stretches from the brook of Egypt to the Euphrates River, there will have to be many more killed to satisfy the sadistic, land-thieving Israelis.

    Wonder how many stock market shorts Jared the Snake place on the market shortly before Qassem was murdered?

    • Agree: BannedHipster
  30. @Bruce Arney

    This is a good thing. If the US keeps rewarding cowardice, then in the long run their army will become easier to defeat as they’ve been rewarding self-defeating behavior.

  31. journey80 says:

    Or the attack could just as easily have been conducted by Israel….

  32. The general having defeated the western proxy forces of ISIS and Al queda had also organised a deterrence against any attack on Iran. That s the true motive. That deterrence does not go away by taking out the man. But short sighted illiterate gimps just could not handle the reality of the situation as being so arrogant and basically imbeciles they had no common sense thinking capacity of the ramifications of things to come.. Instead of Iran working slowly behind the scene to expel US terrorist forces, now Iran will take an active role in it. Directly Iran will not attack anyone. But like everything, it will be blamed for everything. Things can escalate but I dont see Iran throwing the first stone. Iran has also now well defined allies who will stand by it knowing full well, if iran fall they will fall as well.

  33. sally says:

    some say =>Soleimani murdered because USA losing.. against Iran.
    some say => its a declaration of war.
    Maybe “THE SOLEIMANI EVENT [TSE]” should be understood differently? Instead of it being revenge or a declaration of war: consider Soleimani to be an invitational provocation. Iran you are hereby invited to do something that can be made to look like it is unconscionable.

    because presently there is no one to do the fighting [the governed classes do not have the will another war; the bankers, corporations and investors will have to find some other way to make money] something is going to have to be done to make the rank and file willing to get out and fight. Taking Soleimani out might provoke Iran into giving a response that fake news can turn into a rebel yell.

    In other words, there will be no war unless Iran retaliates in a way that makes everybody angry.

    • Replies: @flashlight joe
    , @Skeptikal
  34. @DanFromCT

    ‘… In my case, I’ve gone from a strong Trump supporter to the other side over this latest crap. I don’t like it when someone takes me for a moron and lies to my face.’

    I voted for the man, but I was never ‘a Trump supporter.’ I always figured he was a two-bit huckster — and nothing has ever caused me to change that opinion.

    However, it was always a matter of ‘what’s the alternative?’ Someone has to win the election — they can’t all lose.

    …and that’s still the case. We’ll have a choice between Trump and…

    So you’ll have to pick one. Or let others pick.

    I don’t like it either. I don’t like being sixty one. But in both cases, that’s the way it is.

  35. @Ko

    ‘… The Saudi’s might as well kick America like a dog as well…’

    I suspect the Saudis have been dragging their feet. Iran appears to have been able to deter them.

    Israel’s just running us now.

  36. MLK says:

    This is middle schooler naive:

    A Dubious Official Story Masks the True Motives Behind the Soleimani Assassination

    Official stories are often, if not always, dubious. They’re functionally separate from the precipitating subject matter.

    Interestingly, this author, along with many of the commenters, engages in the same subterfuge. No mention of the intended Benghazi 2.0, and all of the Iranian provocations since Trump withdrew from the JCPOA, even if alluded to here, wrapped under the rubric of “Who knows?”

    The broad strokes aren’t complicated. Iran is second only to China as the chief beneficiary of the post-Cold War quarter century. It’s Shiite Crescent of regional hegemony was Soleimani’s creation and baby. Whatever US intentions before Obama became president, his governing faction developed a close alliance with Iran.

    After Trump took the oath they didn’t really even try to hide Iran’s leading role in The Resistance. With the very public promise by Democrats to return to the JCPOA with, no doubt, the US once again funding Iran’s regional dominance.

    Remember, the “official” Resistance story — domestic (US) and foreign, until recently was that Trump’s Maximum Pressure campaign was a joke. Indeed, that Iran would flip sanctions to its advantage just as Putin/Russia (purportedly) had.

    Soleimani’s days were numbered after he leaked that he was going to run for president, and exacerbated damage to the nation by heavy-handed monkeying around in regional states, Iraq in particular.

    Look at it from the Iran’s perspective, removal of Saddam and an adversarial Sunni regime was an historic achievement. Almost equally so, having an American government under Obama that funded its takeover and more.

    Trump put an end to that in Iraq. Iran would have to finance its takeover of Iraq itself. The Iraqis were/are smart enough to know that Iran cannot afford that. All it was going to be was the Soleimani way.

    Iraqis aren’t dumb. They know the Americans are the only ones with the money bucket. They also know that under the current POTUS they better damn well take seriously his specific and limited demands. They most emphatically don’t include looting and destroying their country as Soleimani so obviously intended.

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @MLK
    , @Meimou
    , @Twodees Partain
  37. Miro23 says:
    @Jean de Peyrelongue

    Trump is betting the war against Iran will not involve Russia or China, therefore the war will not affect the US’s soil.

    Trump’s safest bet would be to guarantee to Russia and China that nuclear weapons would not be used in any US/ Iran conflict.

    • Replies: @Jean de Peyrelongue
  38. MLK says:
    @MLK

    By the way, this isn’t the sharpest bunch, but please tell me you didn’t actually think that Trump was going to fall into Soleimani’s (and the Democrats) trap of a replay of the embassy hostage crisis that sank Carter’s reelection?

    This explains events moving so quickly. The entry of Soleimani’s militia which, we were repeatedly told, was really an arm of the Iraqi government, into the Green Zone and embassy; with Trump quickly telling the Iraqis government what time it is, and thus the Apaches . . . .

    This is why the Ayatollah tweeted “You can’t do a damn thing” to Trump. And Senator Murphy that Trump was “impotent.”

    Uh huh.

    Give the devil his due, Soleimani didn’t abandon his plan. Though, rather obviously, he should have because this POTUS ain’t like his predecessors, most especially figurehead Obama.

    So, now consider the conversation between the US and Iranian governments behind the curtain. As General Milley said “The ball is in Iran’s court.” Meaning, Iran has to decide whether it will escalate after its latest failed Resistance gambit in coordination with the Democrats.

    That’s why there was that second airstrike, taking out other participants in the plot. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Iranian government dropped a dime on them as cleanup and essential signaling to the US that it would like to put a period on this.

  39. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:

    The lies coming out of this admin make my head hurt-they either believe we are all morons or they are the morons having graduated from the pompass school for serial liars.

  40. Agent76 says:

    JANUARY 03 2020 The Soleimani Assassination

    The Long-Awaited Beginning of The End of America’s Imperial Ambitions
    Iran cannot let the killing of a senior military officer go unansweredeven though it cannot directly confront the United States militarily.

    https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/iran/3782-end-of-america-imperial-ambitions.html

    Jan 3, 2020 Iran has the ‘right to retaliate’ over US ‘act of war’

    Tehran University’s Mohammed Marandi says the US’ “murder” of a senior Iranian military commander is “definitely an act of war”.

  41. The careful wording seems to leave wide open the question as to whether the “US Military contractor”
    was actually an American.
    Last time I looked the sweepings of Latin American gangsterhood were signing up for the US military and its spawn with green cards as the bait.

  42. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:

    I read a comment by a U.S. former military officer on another forum which said that he believed that the U.S. Embassy protest in Baghdad must have been a controlled protest and that some of the protesters could not have breached certain perimeter barriers without the military/intel allowing it. And he further suggested that this false flag was done to draw parallels to both Iran in 1979 and Benghazi in 2012 and the planned strikes in Iraq against Iranian interests.

  43. @sally

    others say => It’s just another mob hit.

  44. This assassination reveals for all the world to see that the ZUS and its POTUS and government are all gutless puppets of the zionists who control the ZUS and have since 1913 with their creation of the FED, and with this came the perpetual wars for perpetual profit for the zionist banking kabal over the bodies of Americans forced to fight wars for the zionists.

    • Agree: Paul C., Irish Savant, Sulu
    • Replies: @Paul C.
  45. @MLK

    There is one thing I have learned in my old age.

    Never jump to any conclusions about “today’s news” in foreign policy.

    All governments lie, all media gets the story wrong, it takes years to figure out what is going on, and then a “bodyguard of lies” will protect any wrongdoers.

    Those who know aren’t talking, and those who are talking don’t know.

    • Replies: @Da Wei
    , @MLK
  46. @Colin Wright

    So you’ll have to pick one. Or let others pick.

    No you don’t have to pick one since it doesn’t matter who is picked, nor which party is chosen. The result is the same as evidenced by the past 30 years. The president is merely a figurehead. The real power is with the (((deep state)) – and they are predominantly warmongering zionists.

    Instead, boycott the elections. Let them throw a party where nobody shows up. How will they legitimize a government with <5% votes?

    As my friend renfro says: BWTTGASO.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  47. lysias says:
    @Colin Wright

    After we tried and failed to bait Hitler into attacking us, we did the same with Japan, and that time it worked.

    Lincoln baited the Confederacy into attacking first by moving to resupply Fort Sumter.

  48. @MLK

    ‘…That’s why there was that second airstrike, taking out other participants in the plot. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Iranian government dropped a dime on them as cleanup and essential signaling to the US that it would like to put a period on this.’

    This is a good example of the sort of nonsense one has to dream up if one wishes to defend our conduct.

    • Replies: @MLK
  49. @lysias

    I would expect the ZUS to sink one of our own ships and blame Iran for it and then launch an all out attack on Iran , in a repeat of the attack on the USS Liberty and the false flag Gulf of Tonkin attack and the False Flag joint ZUS and Israel attack on the WTC on 911.

    In this event of a false flag and ensuing attack on Iran, in my opinion Russia will go in on the side of Iran and we will have the nuclear war with Russia that the ZUS and Israel have been wanting.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  50. I voted for the Fat Orange Fool, after having not voted since 1980; no more voting for me until there exists a White People’s party.

    Of course, I live in a state (Va.) that is now ‘blue’, so my vote wouldn’t have counted anyway.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  51. MLK says:
    @Justvisiting

    Never jump to any conclusions about “today’s news” in foreign policy.

    Yup. Everyone lies, not just governments, because in geopolitics you don’t get any points for telling the truth.

    Just assume arguendo that my analysis of what is going on here is correct. I think the evidence for it is overwhelming.

    Thus the utterly disproportionate operation against Iran’s militias in Iraq and Syria — disproportionate in seeming response to the unnamed contractor’s death — was a warning to Iran along with, hindsight reveals, a brilliant trap for Soleimani and his conspirators.

    It emboldened him and his Democrat allies into believing that Trump had stumbled into fulfilling their narrative to come — that he was liable for the ensuing embassy takeover/hostage crisis.

    Now, Trump holds the truth of their plot over the whole lot of them akin to Erdogan’s position after the failed coup and Putin after Turkey shot down a Russian fighter jet.

    Iran is incredible exposed here. Particularly since the Ayatollah shot his mouth off (e.g. “You can’t do a damn thing.”) before the embassy was seized. Trump, because he is a genuinely great POTUS, will extract gains for the American sovereign (not himself politically) in return for allowing Iran to climb out of the tree.

    Of course, the Democrats remain desperate for Iran to kill some Americans so that they can exploit it to remove Trump. They’ve demonstrated they will sacrifice pretty much anything in terms of the national interest to return to power. Thus they’re goading Iran into doubling down.

    Remember, behind the curtain it is anything but lacking in rules. Iran made its play and spectacularly failed. Trump, circumspectly, has limited payback to Soleimani and his militias in Iraq.

    That Soleimani travelled to Syria and Iraq during this moment, in other words, making himself available to be killed outside of Iran, appears like an error in judgement but, given his longevity at the top of a dangerous game, was more likely his last duty to the Islamic Republic and the ayatollah he had put between a rock and a hard place.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  52. Soleimani was a brave man and knew he was a target but also knew he was just one man and that others would step in after he is gone.

    He is respected by the Christians in Syria that thank him for his help against the western backed jihadi liver eaters. Killing him will not stop what he started.

    The West has shown itself to stand for nothing other than plowing and plundering, mass murder and destruction, lies and deception.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
  53. Z-man says:

    “There are about 5,000 American troops in Iraq. The number of civilian contractors is far more difficult to track.” That’s journalistic malpractice. Trump is going to war to avenge a contractor’s death. We have a right to know who he or she is.

    Let me take a stab at it. A former Mossad agent trying to set up businesses for Hymie in Iraq. Just a thought (wry grin).

  54. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I really don’t think you should malign Evangelicals unless you know them. I grew up around a lot of them (I am a staunch atheist now), and there are some commenters here who still go to such churches and keep their company, and we can say that sincere belief in this kind of apocalyptic stuff is not really common.

    Why do you hate Evangelicals? Because the media portrays them badly. Why does the media do that? Because Evangelicals are (basically) the last true Christians left, and the media hates Christianity for obvious and understandable reasons.

    Evangelicals know that there is a lot of talk about “the end times.” They also know that it is horribly speculative, and that the Bible is not clear at all about it, so they do not put much stock in it. There will always be theorists who make their claims, and they allow that, partly because it is Christian tradition to look forward to the “Second Coming.” But IRL evangelicals’ eyes glaze over whenever someone talks about this stuff.

    Evangelicals stick to the basics (“the fundamentals”). Confess your sins to God, turn from them, believe in Jesus, Nicene Creed. They don’t go much further than that, because they have chosen to keep their religion country simple (as opposed to Puritans, Catholics, etc.). That is what the Evangelical movement is actually about.

  55. MLK says:
    @Colin Wright

    Uh huh. Then how do you explain that the second strike barely even made the news, even though everyone including you has declared the POTUS out of control?

    Look, Soleimani signed his own death warrant with his first ever interview declaring himself the ruler of the Shiite Crescent. While I give him points for boldness, his attempt to save the whole shebang by seizing the American embassy in Bagdad in a replay of the 1980 seizure in Tehran was absurdly reckless.

    He goes to the top of the list of those who paid the greatest price for believing the idiots who continue to underestimate POTUS Trump.

  56. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Looks like Trump is paying homage to his Jewish masters, right, Colin?

    “Some media reports have referred to the contractor as a “Pentagon contractor” while others have used the term “civilian contractor,” leading some to speculate that the contractor might have been a private mercenary in the employ of the Pentagon.”

    How is this surprising, considering that Rudy Guiliani is a “civilian contractor” in terms of digging up political dirt for Trump through back channels?

    Although, Alt Right leader Vox Day opines that “[D]espite all the announcements and theatrics, I can’t help but observe that an identification reportedly based on a well-known ring could be faked rather easily. It would not shock me if Soleimani were to unexpectedly surface in the future.”

    Perhaps the assassination was a False Flag. I mean, why not? The Alt Right just loves conspiracy theories, right?

  57. Clem says:

    “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has expressed his desire to go to war with Iran”

    Put the bastard on the front line so he can take one for the team. Then we’ll finally be rid of that filthy poisonous cockroach.

  58. Corvinus says:
    @MLK

    “Of course, the Democrats remain desperate for Iran to kill some Americans so that they can exploit it to remove Trump. They’ve demonstrated they will sacrifice pretty much anything in terms of the national interest to return to power. Thus they’re goading Iran into doubling down.”

    LOL, Trump did already double down by taking out an Iranian general on Iraqi soil.

    “Remember, behind the curtain it is anything but lacking in rules. Iran made its play and spectacularly failed.”

    So, mission accomplished, right?

    • Replies: @MLK
    , @Anonymous
  59. @Dumbo

    Tonkin incident in Hormuz strait? A distinct possibility. Israel and KSA are always ready to oblige.

  60. Shaman911 says:

    I suggest all of you read the following statement printed in 1871 by Albert Pike in his “Morals & Dogma” A 33 degree Freemason, Confederate General, Founder of the Klu Klux Klan, and most importantly, he was JEWISH.

    http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php/jahcubites-a-world-rule/secret-societies/631-albert-pike-and-the-jewish-world-war-iii

    [MORE]

    The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the ‘agentur’ of the ‘Illuminati’ between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

  61. Dumbo says:

    General Qassem Soleimani has killed or badly wounded thousands of Americans over an extended period of time, and was plotting to kill many more…but got caught! He was directly and indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people, including the recent large number….— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2020

    MILLIONS of people? The only ones responsible for killing millions in the Middle East are the United States. If we apply the same measure, Bush, Trump and Obama (and Bibi) should have been “taken out long ago”! But of course, only one side can kill with impunity. Might makes right.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  62. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:

    A prophesy from a German prophet (A.Hitler)

    “I am prepared to wager that well within twenty-five years the Americans themselves will have realized what a handicap has been imposed upon them by this parasitic Jewry, clamped fast to their flesh and nourishing itself on their life-blood. It is this Jewry that is dragging them into adventures which, when all is said and done, are no concern of theirs and in which the interests at stake are of no importance to them. What possible reason can the non-Jewish Americans have for sharing the hatreds of the Jews and following meekly in their footsteps? One thing is quite certain – within a quarter of a century the Americans will either have become violently anti-semitic or they will be devoured by Jewry.

    If we should lose this war, it will mean that we have been defeated by the Jews. Their victory will then be complete. But let me hasten to add that it will only be very temporary. It will certainly not be Europe which takes up the struggle again against them, but it certainly will be the United States. The latter is a country still too young to have acquired the maturity conferred by age and exaggeratedly lacking in political sense. For the Americans, everything has so far been ridiculously easy. But experience and difficulties will perhaps cause them to mature. Just think for a moment what they were when their country was born – a group of individuals come from all corners of the earth hastening forward in pursuit of fortune and finding at their disposal a vast continent to appease their hunger and all theirs for the taking. National conscience is a thing which develops very gradually, especially in vast territories such as these. Nor must it be forgotten that these individuals had been drawn from a variety of races and had not yet been fused by the bonds of a national spirit. What an easy prey for the Jews! ”

    It seems the Iranians are now the best Germans…the resistance against the globalist Jews. But the outcome of this battle might also be the end of the three monotheistic political movements, camouflaged as “religions”, who tortured and massacred the dissident world for two tausand years. What comes now are the “ten menaces” but not in conjunction with an almighty god but with the construction of the most evil idea which believes on the extinction of all non jews after an apocalypse.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  63. @Dumbo

    It is a combination of projection and deceit that lead to him tweeting that death toll attributed to Soleimani. It must be ‘millions’ in the same sense that 6 million Jews died.

  64. Ghali says:

    The assassination of General Qasem Soleimani shows that, nothing on this scale of U.S. violence, criminality and violation of international law has been seen before, not even in Nazi Germany. We live under a brutal form of Fascism that has no equivalent in human history. There are no longer the rules of law and civilised norms. It is a barbaric, lawless, rogue, terrorising and distinctly global AngloZionist Fascism.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  65. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    The Milgrim Experiment seemed like a fraud:

    …It is likely that no one understood this better than Milgram himself. In his notes and letters, Perry finds ample evidence that, privately, he had significant doubts about his work. He’d also dreamed of, and even dabbled in, other careers—filmmaker, writer of literary fiction—that indulged his taste for creative spectacles. Despite his reservations, he was a canny marketer of his own findings, well aware of how to package science in a way that would set tongues wagging. While Milgram was conducting his experiments, the American news media was fixated on the trial of the Nazi logistician Adolf Eichmann, then underway in Jerusalem. Ahead of the release of Obedience to Authority, Milgram himself drafted potential taglines for the book’s cover: “Is your neighbor a potential Eichmann?” “Where’s Adolf Eichmann? Check your mirror, friend.”

    https://psmag.com/social-justice/electric-schlock-65377

    We know the Prison Experiment by Stanford psych professor Philip Zimbardo was a fraud:

    The Stanford Prison Experiment was massively influential. We just learned it was a fraud.
    The most famous psychological studies are often wrong, fraudulent, or outdated. Textbooks need to catch up.

    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/13/17449118/stanford-prison-experiment-fraud-psychology-replication

    Both of these experiments were published as scientific fact in all textbooks in psychology, sociology, criminology/criminal justice, modern history, etc.

    I wonder how many other frauds are taught as fact??

  66. annamaria says:
    @MLK

    “..seizing the American embassy in Bagdad”

    — Is this how they are training the hapless Israeli to earn some pocket money by spreading hasbara?
    Of course, you are livid about people’s respect for the noble, courageous, and principled Soleimany. And whom can you juxtapose to this great man? Your ridiculous Bibi? The faux X-tian Pompeo? “Lord” Polak? Or maybe you have in mind the numerous stink tanks (see the Atlantic Council, AEI, and such) filled with armchair generals of zionist persuasion, these traitors who have been selling the US interests for the benefit of the theocratic toy-state of Israel.

    The US could have been on friendly and beneficial terms with Iran and Russia. Instead, the Epstein nation of Israel desires to spill as much American blood as possible to bring forth the advent of Eretz Israel. Tell us, why the majority of Jews do not want to live with other Jews in Israel? Why zionists have been assaulting the First Amendment in the US? Why the holobiz hysterics?

    The zionists’ principal contribution to the US has been in kind of Mayer Lansky, Les Wexner (the Mega Group), Jeffery Epstein, Paul Singer, Robert Rubin (remember the disastrous repeal of Glass-Steagall Act?) and a flowerbed of rabid ziocons of Perle-Kristol-Wolfowitz-Ledeen sort, who turned to be the greatest enemy (along with Cheney the Traitor) of everything decent in the US.

    To refurbish your statement, zionists signed their own death warrant by declaring themselves the owners and rulers of the US and by exploiting the US military for Israel’s interests. Israelis are not particularly intelligent, and zionists at large are good only at blackmailing and financial crimes. Zionists want a war with Iran and Russia, and they are getting the war.

    • Agree: Paul C.
    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
  67. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    The recent assassination of Iran’s most popular and well-known general, Qassem Soleimani, …

    NO. Soleimani was NEVER a general of the Iranian military. He was a high officer in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), basically Ayatollah-Iran’s Waffen-SS: a semi-official force loyal to the ayatollahs rather than the state as a whole, and in competition with the regular armed forces of Iran. One would imagine that Iran’s regular military will take a more nuanced view of Soleimani’s incineration.

    Within the IRGC, Soleimani was the commander of the elite JERUSALEM DIVISION. That’s right – “Quds” means “Jerusalem.” Why was this crucial detail not shared with the readership here? How many educated readers are aware that “Quds” means “Jerusalem”? More importantly, how many sophisticated readers would EXPECT to be informed of such details?

    At the time of his death, this Waffen-SS officer was on a tour of inspection in Iran’s de facto protectorate of Iraq.

    There is no doubt that the Media-Industrial-Military Complex is pushing a self-interested narrative about the Middle East. It is all the more important to understand and report basic and undisputed facts correctly and fully.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @RadicalCenter
  68. Meimou says:
    @Dumbo

    Super Israel shill Alex Jones is pushing the Iranian sleeper cells nonsense. A FF is definitely on the table.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  69. Meimou says:
    @Max Denken

    Max Denkenstein

    But of course; how can it be otherwise at Unz.com but Joos-done-it. Nationalist patriots who don’t have that monomaniacal beam in the eye see it differently:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/revealed-former-al-quds-leader-soleimani-planned-and-financed-terrorist-attack-on-us-benghazi-consulate-resulting-in-4-dead-americans/

    https://gab.com/DiaryofaDyingNation/posts/103426046446018560

    So Zionist Jack “Rape Melania” Posobiec claims that Soleimani was behind Benghaiz and were just supposed to believe it?

    ““Everyone knew the Iranians were in Benghazi,” former CIA security officer Kris “Tanto” Paranto said in an interview. “Especially once the Red Crescent team from Iran was ‘kidnapped’ by Ansar al-Shariah, we knew about them and were tracking them.”

    — Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 3, 2020

    “Multiple intelligence and operations officers at AFRICOM have acknowledged an “ongoing awareness” of the Iranian Quds Force presence in Benghazi. Among them is Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, the chief of the 18-man Site Security Team assigned to guard Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens”

    — Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 3, 2020

    Funny how were are just now hearing about Iran being involved in Benghazi . It’s almost if we are meant to see Iran as a boogieman…

    Israel firstsers are not Nationalist . Jack may not a beam in his eye, but he has Cohen Juice on his mouth.

    • Replies: @Max Denken
  70. Meimou says:
    @MLK

    No mention of the intended Benghazi 2.0, and all of the Iranian provocations since Trump withdrew from the JCPOA, even if alluded to here, wrapped under the rubric of “Who knows?”

    You understand that most of us here do not blindly believe what the Empire/enemy media tell us about Iran right?

    Provide evidence of the intended Benghazi 2.0.

    The fact that super Izzi shill Alex Jones is on with the last 2 couple Iran false flags board tells me all I need to know.

  71. sally says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t know who “we” refers to. Unless you are one of the 525 popularly elected Article One persons or one the 2 electoral college appointed persons you are only a citizen of the 527 person USA? Assuming you are not an elected Member of the House of Representatives or an elected Member of the Senate or an electoral college appointed President or VP you are an American hopefully with citizenship rights and you are governed by the 527 person USA.

    USA Citizenship, until the constitution is amended by a process citizens cannot invoke, does not grant citizens power to vote on any law to be enacted; does not grant citizens power to influence or vote on decisions the USA decides, does not grant citizens rights to be informed about or rights to participate in the processes that appoints, approves and seats persons to high level positions within the USA ( Ambassadors, Judges, etc.). AFAICT a citizen qualified to vote, is entitled to do as they are told and if eligible to vote, citizens are entitled to caste just three votes that count: one vote to hire each of 2 Senators and one vote to hear a single Member of the House (that ‘s ,it, citizens get 3 votes that count about who the USA shall hire to animate its functions) but there are 525 governor jobs (seats) in the congress of the USA?

    The USA consist of 527 governors, the congress (425 members of the House and 100 members of the Senate) <=that's two short of the 527 total at the USA? How did that happen?

    The missing two are the President and the Vice President. Both houses of the Congress are elected by individual votes of eligible to vote USA citizens in national popular elections, which are elections we are all familiar with. However the missing two, the ones with all of the power to do whatever they want, the President and the Vice President, are not elected in the same election as the Congress nor are they elected by the same people that elected the Congress.

    Yes, I know citizens are handed a ballot to vote their choice of candidates but only three votes count, the 2 for the Senate and the one for the house of Representative member. I also know that on each ballot appears a place to mark one's personal choice from the printed slate of candidates for who shall be seated as President and Vice President at the USA: although the position are named (President and VP) and the names of the candidates to be seated in those two positions are printed on the ballots, presumably to encourage citizens to select from the list of candidates a choice for each President or VP job, but none of those choices count as votes AFAICT. What?

    Read Article II of the Constitution of the USA.. and amendment twelve of that same document.. to discover that Congress (House and Senate) are Article I persons, and that President and VP are Article II persons..
    527 is the total USA persons, __two groups: (100 senators+ 425 house members) + ( 2 executives )
    said in a different way there are two groups: (…………Article I Group ………………) + (Article II group)
    Different voters determine different groups : (..elected by popular national vote..) +(electoral college)

    Only members of the electoral College are eligible to elect by voting the President and VP. Each state handles its own electoral college. and so one can only imagine the politics of those secret often hidden processes.

    So 449,999,473 governed Americans +527 USA governors make up the 450,000,000 persons in America.

    What this probably suggests is that we cannot change things at the White House no matter our vote. AFAICT its not up to US Citizens to determine who shall be their president and vice president. If my understanding is correct, it might also explain why it would be a unique person indeed who could run for President as a party independent candidate. . Likely, the electoral college would not elect independent of party candidates, even if such independent candidates earned the most votes.

    This is how I see it, if some one can find a hole in what I have written i would be thankful to correct it accordingly.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  72. @Sean

    Maybe the assassination of the sinister Iranian guy is a move to placate John Bolton so he won’t reveal Trump’s nine-Big Macs-a-day habit.

    • Replies: @Sean
  73. eah says:

    Although earlier this year he reportedly refused to sell it to them (Putin verweigert Iran S-400-Raketenabwehrsysteme angesichts wachsender Spannungen im Persischen Golf — ? — Russia ‘ready to deliver S-400 to Iran,’ no request made yet — ?), there are conflicting reports, and since they clearly have a defensive need, Putin should offer to immediately send as many S-400 systems as he can spare directly to Iran.

    • Replies: @eah
  74. @Shaman911

    “and most importantly, he was JEWISH.”

    It’s OK to be Jewish.

    • Replies: @Phil_from_NJ
    , @Nonny Mouse
  75. MLK says:
    @Corvinus

    So, mission accomplished, right?

    Yes, in terms of foiling this exceedingly reckless plot to destroy POTUS Trump.

    LOL, Trump did already double down by taking out an Iranian general on Iraqi soil.

    I’m not going to reinvent the wheel for you. All I can do is suggest you follow the news with an eye toward common sense. Soleimani wasn’t in Iraq on vacation. He was taken out on Iraqi soil because that is where he was plotting to seize the American embassy.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Colin Wright
  76. renfro says:
    @JimDandy

    America is a vassal state. What, exactly, are you going to do about it

    Watch the movie.

    Opening scene—Early morning fog is just beginning to lift from the grassy expanse of the Williamsburg Civil War battle field. As the fog tendrils drift away a groundskeeper on the treed perimeter of the field is preparing for mowing. Looking across the field he thinks he see objects laying on the ground and walks toward them. The first body he sees has an arrow thru the throat.

    Second scene……Sept 1st Breaking News, 12 pm CNN…..20 bodies were found on a civil war battle field at Williamsburg Va. early this morning. The police and FBI are on the scene. No identities of the dead have been released.
    UPDATE…..5pm……Our reporter on the scene tells us three of the dead are Sec. of State Mike Pampeo, Mark Dubowitz of the FDD think tank and Ronald Lauder, Pres of the ZOA.
    UPDATE…..9pm……All victims have been identified….names with held until notification of possible relatives. We can say that we are told that these victims are all figures in various political and interest groups.

    Third scene……’BREAKNG BREAKING” …….Sept 3rd…10am CNN…..10 more bodies found at steps of Lincoln Memorial..

    To be continued….

    • Replies: @anonymous
  77. @annamaria

    OMG, are you still repeating the crap about “Israeli rifles” in Ukrainian hands? Fort Industires started producing the Tavor in Ukraine under licsense in 2013 (!!!) When Yanukovych was still president. They are not being smuggled into Ukraine by Israel. Get a grip.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  78. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    LOL, Trump did already double down by taking out an Iranian general on Iraqi soil.

    Soleimani was never a military officer, but an officer with the quasi-military IRGC, i.e. Iran’s Waffen-SS.

    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/a-dubious-official-story-masks-the-true-motives-behind-the-soleimani-assassination/#comment-3643530

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Corvinus
  79. Paul C. says:
    @Desert Fox

    To take it a step further, what we all need to realize is that this cabal seeks world domination, thus we too are in the crosshairs. With control of the world’s money supply, they control nearly everything except the morality of the just. They’re taking away our freedom of speech and the right to defend ourselves from tyranny, which is what we’re experiencing on a low level. They’re openly engaged in weather warfare (geo-engineering) and are rolling out a weapon system called 5G, without any human health testing. The government science on 5G from the 1970’s shows it will imperil human health (likely in the form of cancer). We don’t have representative governments in the West, the politicians answer to lobbyists who work to further corrupt an already corrupt system.

    https://thefullertoninformer.com/5g-dangers/

    In short, this cabal is at war with us. The US has been taken down from within. We need to organize and fight back. I like the model of the Yellow Vest movement. It’s apolitical, non-violent and persistent, which is needed to awaken the sleeping masses.

    Although the majority of us on this site lean conservative, we have to abandon division. If it’s right vs left we’ll remain divided and nothing will change. This is exactly the system our controllers have set up, as they know it’s a fool’s errand which allows them to rule unimpeded.

    Deep down no one wants war unless their country has been invaded. No one supports the innocent slaughter of others and all want the right to free speech and to live a healthy life. No one wants to live in a surveillance state with cameras tracking our every move. The fight is us versus them, not us versus us.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
    , @renfro
  80. Simply Simone [AKA "Anon"] says:

    So, we have the real situation, the U.S. tells Israel what to do militarily speaking? And the statement “Israel may have planned to assassinate the general as a means of provoking war with Iran, which Netanyahu was actively promoting last February.” is misleading. Netanyahu has been pushing for the U.S. to go to war with Iran for over 25 years! Remember when he took over Congress under the Obama Administration and got on his soapbox about needing to stop nuclear Iran?

  81. Skeptikal says:
    @sally

    I read something very similar to this at Moon of Alabama. The initialism TSE was also used over there.

    • Replies: @Republic
  82. anastasia says:

    Well, yesterday Trump said that the attack on Soleimani was done because he was planning an “imminent” attack on US Diplomats and soldiers.

    They keep changing the story!!!!

  83. Skeptikal says:
    @Anonymous

    “Soleimani was never a military officer, but an officer with the quasi-military IRGC, i.e. Iran’s Waffen-SS.”

    There is no need to bring in the Waffen-SS.
    That is just mindless sensationalizing.
    AFAIK the Quds force is maybe more like the Green Berets.
    Or, a special unit of the IRGC, which could be compared to our National Guard.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  84. eah says:

    Gareth Porter

    Big media are all repeating the Trump-Pompeo justification that #Soleimani was responsible for killing 600 American boys in Iraq. But as I’ve documented in great detail, that was a completely fabricated story Cheney was using to justify an attack on Iran.

    Link to story on truthout.org

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  85. anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    put flesh on that, Castellio

    PS but first, give MLK the Idiot of the week award –
    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/a-dubious-official-story-masks-the-true-motives-behind-the-soleimani-assassination/#comment-3643625

    The “protests” at the US Embassy were a false flag — US military had to have participated/ permitted “protesters” to get that close.

    • Replies: @renfro
  86. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “Soleimani was never a military officer,”

    Don’t be a clown. He served as a major general in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and was a commander for a group that engaged in clandestine operations.

    Trump was beholden to his Jewish overlords, and ordered the liquidation of a “threat”. I thought it was in the best interest for America to NOT engage in such actions.

  87. Corvinus says:
    @MLK

    “Yes, in terms of foiling this exceedingly reckless plot to destroy POTUS Trump.”

    LOL. Trump was the one who ordered the air strike! His actions were reckless. He may end up destroying everything he has worked for.

    “Soleimani wasn’t in Iraq on vacation. He was taken out on Iraqi soil because that is where he was plotting to seize the American embassy.”

    Then it would be in our best interest to leave, right, IF he was making those plans? So why is Trump catering to his neo-con Jew advisors?

    • Replies: @MLK
  88. annamaria says:
    @Gentle Gentile

    — You mean, it is OK to support the production of Israeli rifles in Ukraine to arm the neo-Nazi. Now everything is clear.

    By the way, there are still some decent people in Israel:
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727
    https://thegrayzone.com/2018/07/10/ukraine-embassy-israel-arming-nazis-max-blumenthal/

    What are the names of principal American collaborators with Ukrainian neo-nazi? — Nuland-Kagan, Pyatt, and Carl Gershman. So kosher. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31418.htm
    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/13/the-mess-that-nuland-made/

    Since the zi0nists-arranged putsch in Ukraine, there has been a series of neo-nazi parades. What a joy for the holobiz activists! The ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center have shown unwavering support for Ukrainian neo-nazi. How quickly they forget about Baby Yar and similar trifles when the war-profiteering and rabid Russophobia converge: https://portside.org/2014-11-20/how-israel-lobby-protected-ukrainian-neo-nazis

    The Zionists dream comes true in eastern Ukraine: https://www.fort-russ.com/2015/11/novorossia-madonna-had-message-for/

  89. Republic says:
    @Skeptikal

    Moon of Alabama is a very good source of information

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  90. @Meimou

    Agree that a false flag is definitely on the table and the public is being softened up with claims of Iranian sleeper cells , Mike Pence has already claimed that Soleimani somehow helped the alleged 9/11 hijackers !

  91. MLK says:
    @Corvinus

    Then it would be in our best interest to leave, right, IF he was making those plans?

    No, rather obviously POTUS Trump had a different, more elegant, solution to the longstanding problem that was Soleimani.

    It’s one of Trump’s great qualities, he like cutting Gordian Knots, and then watching his enemies, domestic and foreign, spit and sputter in response.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  92. Sean says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    The most dangerous part of flying is in the car to and from the airport.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  93. @Colin Wright

    Remember when Patrick Clawson of WINEP, the Israel lobby think tank, called for a “false flag” to start a war against Iran?

    Trump spent the entire Obama administration tweeting Israeli Orly Taitz’ ridiculous “birther” conspiracy theories and attacking Obama for not sucking up to Israel ENOUGH.

    Donald Trump Jr. said the reason that Trump ran was to overturn Obama’s Iran deal. Trump’s grandchildren are Israeli citizens. Trump has been a foreign asset of Israel pretty much forever. All the talk about immigration restriction was a lie to sucker the white conservatives.

    If they successfully start a war against Iran it will destroy Trump and the Israel lobby because no one gives a crap about being called “anti-semitic” anymore. The taboo is gone. We can see them clearly.

    https://bannedhipster.home.blog/2020/01/04/qassem-soleimani-rip/

  94. anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:

    This was a pretty reckless move. Does the US have some follow-up plan or was this a one-off act? The US has been supposedly working to undermine and overthrow the government of Iran for all these years but all this does is entrench them even deeper. US bases in Iraq will end up having to be closed and then bases in other Muslim countries will become more tenuous. There’ll be a general withdrawal that the US will try to compensate for with higher tech weaponry. How stable is Saudi Arabia? Were that country to crumble the oil-dollar connection could be broken with potentially catastrophic results. As a US ally they seem like an obvious target. What’s going on behind closed doors is not known to us so we’re all just guessing, waiting for the shoe to drop.

  95. The explanation is fairly straightforward. Trump ordered the killings to further ingratiate himself with the Israelis and his Jewish handlers like Adelson. The MIC of course would be deeply grateful for more carnage.

  96. vot tak says:

    My guess is the assassination of Soleimani was one of opportunity. The zionazis (american colonial division) got intelligence of his route and attacked.

    I also believe the earlier american attack on the militia forces was part of a planned campaign to goad Iran into attacking american forces so the israelis can then use their colonials to up the aggression against Iran. The zionazi goal is to reduce Iran to the sort of state they had their colonials reduce Iraq and Libya to. It looks like zionazia decided 2020 will be the year to pull out all the stops.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  97. @BannedHipster

    Birther movement was largely a Jewish operation. On top of Orly Tiatz, there was also Philip J. Berg, Robert L. Schulz, the McCain neocons and of course the Jewish front operation Breitbart news.

  98. Arnieus says:

    To borrow an old idiom from the 60s:
    Bombing for peace is like fucking for chastity. Trump is just another zionist turd in the American punch bowl.

  99. @vot tak

    The useful idiot MAGAtards and warmongers should realise one crucial thing;

    Today they work hand in hand with the Jews to hang the Iranians, tomorrow the Jews will hang them!

  100. @Anonymous

    It is all the more important to understand and report basic and undisputed facts correctly and fully

    Admirable. Let’s do just that.
    Fact one: half of Quds/Jerusalem is inhabited by Arabs. This half was occupied by Israel. The occupation is deeply resented by the locals.
    Fact two: Israel proclaimed itself “Jewish state”. This means that all non-Jews are second-rate citizens.
    Fact three: Israeli law allows Jews to buy land from anyone whereas they can sell land only to Jews. Thus, any piece of land that got into Jewish hands must remain in Jewish hands forever.
    Fact four: Israeli law recognizes only marriage by Jewish religious ceremony. Therefore, many Jews from Israel (there are lots of perfectly normal people among Israeli Jews, only the minority are scum like known fraudster Netanyahu) travel to Cyprus or some other country, get married like normal people, and then come back and present their marriage certificates.
    Want more facts? Just ask.

    • Replies: @Gleimhart Mantooso
  101. renfro says:
    @Paul C.

    Although the majority of us on this site lean conservative, we have to abandon division. If it’s right vs left we’ll remain divided and nothing will change. This is exactly the system our controllers have set up, as they know it’s a fool’s errand which allows them to rule unimpeded.

    So right…..totally agree.

  102. renfro says:
    @anonymous

    The “protests” at the US Embassy were a false flag — US military had to have participated/ permitted “protesters” to get that close.

    The US embassy in Iraq is in a 104 acre $750 million US compound with multiple defense layers……so yea, those protesters were allowed in and no one armed is allowed in.
    So much for claims of a Iran inspired murderous attack.

  103. rexl says:

    It is interesting that no Israeli newspaper or writer is coming out against the assassination, so much for a free-thinking people. Let us all fall in line, or get in line.

  104. @Bruce Arney

    I wonder if the guy who clicked on hose knows who’s who. Any clueful person has got to be susceptible to PTSD there. Perhaps the drone pilots getting PTSD is the one thing that could put a governor on this crap.

  105. Corvinus says:
    @MLK

    “No, rather obviously POTUS Trump had a different, more elegant, solution to the longstanding problem that was Soleimani.”

    That is a peculiar way to describe a drone strike.

    “It’s one of Trump’s great qualities, he like cutting Gordian Knots, and then watching his enemies, domestic and foreign, spit and sputter in response.”

    Except there isn’t any “sputtering” by his “enemies”. Rather, they are taking umbrage to his stupidity.

    Praytell, are you a Jewish neo-con? Should not American troops be brought home? Should the U.S. end its imperialistic and globalist endeavors as Trump promised?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @MLK
  106. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Skeptikal

    “Soleimani was never a military officer, but an officer with the quasi-military IRGC, i.e. Iran’s Waffen-SS.”

    There is no need to bring in the Waffen-SS.

    … the IRGC [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps] … could be compared to our National Guard.

    Actually, come to think of it, the IRGC is really more like the Sierra Club. IRGC actually stands for Iranian Recreational Greenery Club. Soleimani was visiting Baghdad to help his Iraqi friends scout out locations for new national parks.

  107. @Sasha

    My 14-year-old nephew could’ve kicked that “battle-hardened” general’s ass and left him for dead. Stop the lionizing. He was just another worthless Muslim, and now he’s in hell.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Rabbitnexus
  108. @Corvinus

    ‘Looks like Trump is paying homage to his Jewish masters, right, Colin?’

    That’s one way of putting it.

    One mildly interesting bit is how persistently obscure the identity of this slain ‘civilian contractor’ is.

    Why haven’t we heard all about him?

    • Replies: @Cameljockey
  109. Ron Unz says:
    @Corvinus

    Except there isn’t any “sputtering” by his “enemies”. Rather, they are taking umbrage to his stupidity.

    Praytell, are you a Jewish neo-con? Should not American troops be brought home? Should the U.S. end its imperialistic and globalist endeavors as Trump promised?

    LOL!! This must be about the first time that “Corvinus” is in tune with something like 90-95% of the right-wingers who hang around this website…

  110. @AnonFromTN

    Fact five: Islam is as Satanically inspired as Talmudism, and both are enemies of God and humanity.

  111. @MLK

    ‘… Soleimani wasn’t in Iraq on vacation. He was taken out on Iraqi soil because that is where he was plotting to seize the American embassy.’

    That would explain why the protestors agreed to withdraw before he arrived.

    The irony is that because we’ve assassinated him, we may well be out of that embassy within a month.

    After all, if Iraq chooses to break relations, how precisely do we respond yet preserve all of our various lies?

    • Replies: @MLK
    , @AnonFromTN
  112. Onebornfree says: • Website

    Brian at HighImpactVlogs hits this latest Trump scam “ out of the park”:

    Regards,onebornfree

  113. @Anon

    Actually I hate them because they’re pro-Israeli cucks who think it’s their moral duty to prostitute themselves for Organized Jewry, while contentedly watching Christianity become more and more marginalized in the West. Plus they say idiotic nonsense like “Judeo-Christianity” or “Islamo-fascism”.

  114. Onebornfree says: • Website

    Another good video from HighImpactVlogs that illustrates the Mockingbird media’s lies and hypocrisy versus that of the [self-confessed] lying sack of shit Pompeo :

    Regards, onebornfree

  115. @Shaman911

    Pike sounds like most of the anti-Christian dum-dums who frequent this site.

  116. MLK says:
    @Corvinus

    Praytell, are you a Jewish neo-con? Should not American troops be brought home? Should the U.S. end its imperialistic and globalist endeavors as Trump promised?

    You getting yourself increasingly confused. For decades Soleimani expanded Iran’s imperial realm with impunity. Until, that is, he decided to run an op to take down POTUS Trump by seizing the American embassy in Bagdad.

    Look, if it makes you feel any better, Soleimani is hardly the first to pay a heavy price for underestimating Trump.

    • Troll: eah
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  117. @eah

    No American in his right mind believes his government[sic] any more. Until you can verify things independently, best to doubt everything you’re told.

    Trust in the country is evaporating like morning dew in the desert. No relationship between peers is possible without trust, and once it goes, brutality and coercion remain the only ways to hold a country together.

    • Agree: renfro, roonaldo
  118. MLK says:
    @Colin Wright

    That would explain why the protestors agreed to withdraw before he arrived.

    I’ve explained my reasoning at length. Fine, if it makes you happy edit my sentence to read: He was taken out on Iraqi soil because that is where he HAD BEEN plotting to seize the American embassy UNTIL HE COULDN’T ANY LONGER BECAUSE HE WAS DEAD.

    The irony is that because we’ve assassinated him, we may well be out of that embassy within a month.

    Good, you’re on record.

    Word to the wise, it ain’t happening.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  119. annamaria says:
    @Gleimhart Mantooso

    Ms. Gleimhart Mantooso, take some bromides to pacify your nerves, otherwise, your hysterics could become unmanageable.

    Qassem Soleimani was an honorable man and great military commander who fought valiantly and effectively against the US/Israel-created army of Islamic terrorists.

    Qassem Soleimani was so effective in destroying the ISIS that zionists (including you) have developed an unbounded hatred for the great man. Zionists also have an unbounded hatred for Russians, for Hitler, for Helen Thomas, and basically for all decent gentiles because decent gentiles despise zionists.

    • Agree: Desert Fox, Sasha
  120. @MLK

    Look, Soleimani signed his own death warrant with his first ever interview declaring himself the ruler of the Shiite Crescent. While I give him points for boldness, his attempt to save the whole shebang by seizing the American embassy in Bagdad in a replay of the 1980 seizure in Tehran was absurdly reckless.

    That was all a part of his “genius”.

    /smirk

  121. annamaria says:
    @MLK

    “…he HAD BEEN plotting to seize the American embassy”

    — Where have you heard this line — from your hasbara superior or this is your own confabulation? And this pathetic use of capital letters… are you a recent graduate from a high school, whose grades were not good enough for getting into a college?
    At least you are learning some real history on this site, not some holobiz drivel about the nobility of altruism on part of gentiles and about the incomparable victimhood of the most moral Jewish tribe.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  122. @unit472

    The Iraqi militia advisor would be seem to be essential in advising the Iranian General on the situation and conditions in Iraq. Please tell us again exactly who is in over their head here?

  123. It’s incredible. Jews use media to make some of the most rabid and virulent movies and shows about whites. Some of these are near-genocidal, portraying MAGArians as subhuman filth that must be eradicated. In other words, White Patriots are the new Kulaks or KKKulaks.

    When both whites and Iranians are equally dehumanized by Jewish power, one would expect them to unite against Jews. But white morons in the US are sucking up to Jews in the hope that, gee whiz, maybe just maybe, if they root for Jews and against Iran THIS TIME, the Jews will finally be nice to whites.

    What dummies.

    • Agree: Desert Fox, Robjil
  124. Anon[829] • Disclaimer says:

    Rothschild’s Covert War On Iran

    […] “After failed attempts to seize the oilfields of Iraq, Libya and Syria for the banker-controlled Four Horsemen (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP Amoco and Chevron Texaco), the fuzzy-thinking inbreds appear on the verge of tangling with Iran’s Revolutionary Guard.”

    “With Trump cheerleading the rioters – filmed attacking a police station on Press TV – on Twitter, Iran’s Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fired back in obvious reference to the Saudi monarchy, “Iran’s security and stability depend on its own people, who – unlike the peoples of Trump’s ‘bffs’ – have the right to vote and to protest. These hard-earned rights will be protected and infiltrators will not be allowed to sabotage them through violence and destruction.”

    “The bankers fomented similar domestic trouble in Iran in 2009. That attempt failed and this one will too. The only question is how far the oil barons will go in their covert war on revolutionary Iran.”

    Fom: Dean Henderson Left Hook

    https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2018/01/02/rothschilds-covert-war-on-iran/
    Much will depend on the situation in Yemen, which is not going well for the Saudi proxy. If the Houthi/South Yemen Marxist coalition holds, expect more desperate attempts by Rothschild minions to destabilize Iran.

  125. Incitatus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “I voted for the man, but I was never ‘a Trump supporter.’ I always figured he was a two-bit huckster — and nothing has ever caused me to change that opinion.”

    Sorry. If you voted for him, you were in fact ‘a Trump supporter.’ Despite pathetic post-election excuse/rationalization.

    Now all you are is an unfaithful (embarrassed renegade former) “Trump supporter”. Unworthy of sympathy from either extreme (HRC/DJT).

    Certainly unworthy of trust of those (like me) who thought/think the system (HRC/DNC: DJT/GOP) is corrupt and failed to enfranchise it. Not that that should trouble you.

    As you say, “that’s the way it is”.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  126. Trump is absolutely, insanely wrong on this one, doing the bidding of Judaeo-fascists who want to start WWIII. If the Pentagon refuses to name the dead contractor, it’s doubtless a lie — no such killing occurred. It’s an act worthy of impeachment, except that would leave Pence in charge and he’s worse.

  127. harald says:
    @Anonymous

    The ethic cleansing of 35,000 Germans in the Danzig corrider had nothing to do with it?

  128. Corvinus says:
    @Ron Unz

    “LOL!! This must be about the first time that “Corvinus” is in tune with something like 90-95% of the right-wingers who hang around this website…”

    What I am in tune with is showing those die-hard Trump supporters who seemingly tout **Jewish, globalist, elitist, and Deep State** malfeasance as if it was kittens to creme their idiocy and hypocrisy. The fact of the matter is that Trump already has made his Grand Bargain and owes Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Russia big-time. He better play ball or else.

    Of course, you and this 95% overvalue and overestimate the “pull” of those groups**. But I will admit it makes for good theater.

    • Replies: @Phil_from_NJ
  129. Corvinus says:
    @MLK

    “You getting yourself increasingly confused. For decades Soleimani expanded Iran’s imperial realm with impunity. Until, that is, he decided to run an op to take down POTUS Trump by seizing the American embassy in Bagdad.”

    There is no confusion on my part. Apparently, you think it is OK for the U.S. to play Empire cops and robbers. So you think that Iran should be “reigned in” because they, with “impunity”, have been growing in influence?

    “Look, if it makes you feel any better, Soleimani is hardly the first to pay a heavy price for underestimating Trump.”

    All Trump had to do was give the order. His underlings at the Defense and CIA did the leg work. Wait, I thought the intelligence community could not be trusted with such matters, as Trump as made it well-known of their “Deep State machinations”. Now he wants their assistance in tracking down a popular Iranian general in Iraq so he can be liquidated because he poses a threat to American interests in the region? Talk about being confused…

    You do realize that Trump’s strings are being pulled, right?

  130. @JamesinNM

    Trump also stated that Soleimani was murdered to prevent a war. How do you prevent a war in a country already deeply mired in an American-led war and illegally occupied by American troops for 16 years? That despite the majority of Iraqis wanting America out of their country. Iraq cannot be destroyed beyond the destruction it has already suffered, thanks to American criminal actions.
    Our nation is led by criminals and gangsters gone berserk.

    Here is an interesting, but misleading quote of this piece:

    This alleged attempt by Israel to kill Soleimani came after claims that, in 2018, the Trump administration had given Israel a “green light” to assassinate the general.

    I could swear that that is never the case. The green light always comes from Israel and the US obeys. Always.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  131. It’s just so sad and awful…..just when you think you’re reached peak jew…..

    an awful incident pops up and you realize the jewing is just getting started.

    The history books will read, “And one day….for no apparent reason…..all of the American
    citizens suddenly started hating jews.”

    • Replies: @annamaria
  132. @Incitatus

    ‘Sorry. If you voted for him, you were in fact ‘a Trump supporter.’ Despite pathetic post-election excuse/rationalization.

    Now all you are is an unfaithful (embarrassed renegade former) “Trump supporter”. Unworthy of sympathy from either extreme (HRC/DJT).

    Certainly unworthy of trust of those (like me) who thought/think the system (HRC/DNC: DJT/GOP) is corrupt and failed to enfranchise it. Not that that should trouble you.

    As you say, “that’s the way it is”.’

    And here I was thinking it was merely a matter of choosing between two unpalatable alternatives.

    Little did I realize my peril. Can I never regain your trust?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  133. @Justsaying

    ‘I could swear that that is never the case. The green light always comes from Israel and the US obeys. Always.’

    Yeah. As far as I know, the last time the US was to tell Israel what to do was in 1956.

    That was more than sixty years ago. It’s pretty clear who boss man is now.

  134. That is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Wars in Middle East will never stop until Israel will feel secure.
    Israel will feel secure only if 200 miles around Israel will be no mans land.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………
    Only way to stop wars in Middle East is for Iran to build its own decent nuclear arsenal.
    Period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  135. barr says:

    Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern recently recalled a statement made in 1981 by then-CIA Director William Casey during the first meeting of President Ronald Reagan’s Cabinet. Casey told this gathering, “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    Ray McGovern, “The Pitfalls of a Pit Bull Russophobe,” Consortium News, November 22, 2019.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/03/the-dangers-of-privatized-intelligence/

  136. annamaria says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The proverbial Empire of Evil (former USSR) never reached the level of thievery, banditry, and hypocrisy that the ZUSA had reached already 19 years ago. The real American tragedy (affecting and afflicting the whole world) has been the synergetic collaboration among the predatory and shameless Israel-firsters in the banking sector and media and the corrupt American brass that not only lacks any courage but is devoid of patriotism. Bushes, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Clintons, Obamas, the current clown-in-chief have been fervently dedicated to one and only one thing — their banking accounts.
    As for Israel-firsters, let’s invoke Solzhenitsyn:

    “You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.”

    The worst genocide in history wasn’t the Holocaust … in fact, it was perpetrated by members of the very same group of people who claim they were the victims of one.

    The Americans are approaching a state of affairs when the word “Russians” can be replaced with the word “Americans” in the above quote.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  137. @SunBakedSuburb

    “It’s OK to be Jewish.”

    Really? Ask them if they agree It’s OK to be White?

  138. @Corvinus

    “Trump already has made his Grand Bargain and owes Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Russia big-time.”

    Trump doesn’t owe Russia anything, so shove that Russia got Trump elected, totally bogus narrative back up your arse.

    I’m so sick of hearing this Big Lie repeated.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  139. Corvinus says:

    So here’s an interesting conspiracy theory. Soleimani actually died in 2015.

    https://social.quodverum.com/@ThomasWic/103418511434348432

  140. @annamaria

    Sorry and I do mean really sorry, But Solzhenitsyn was idiotic fanatical moron.

  141. @harald

    Obviously not.

    How dare you doubt the narrative, sir?

    How dare you?

  142. @Ron Unz

    That is not a laughing matter, that is a reason to slaughter the fattened calf, sir.

    I was surprised myself, but happy to be surprised in this way.

  143. @harald

    Sadly sometimes you have to cut your losses. After WWII a hell of a lot more Germans were ethnically cleansed out of Eastern Europe and they’ll never resettle again there. In fact they may end up being replaced in Germany proper eventually. Something else has to be tried instead of eternally blaming neighbours for past misdeeds. But no, spiteful Germans now want to force those Poles, Hungarians and others around them to start settling their immigrant invitees and are acting as a Trojan horse in the EU. We’ll see how this all ends. Maybe it’s time for the EU to break up and all the immigrants herded into Germany, at least all those who arrived after their government sounded the bugle call for Muslims and Africans to invade European lands.

  144. This comment is undoubtedly too late in the thread to be read by anyone, but . . .

    It seems rational that one good way for Iran to protect itself is to develop or buy nuclear weapons, and soon. That is the only thing that has protected North Korea from annihilation, for sure, the uncertainty about the direction of their use if sufficiently provoked.

    However, North Korea could better protect itself while simultaneously eliminating or at least mitigating the major foreign policy tool in the area by openly stating that if attacked, NK will not bother retaliating against either the US or South Korea but will instead make Japan glow in the dark. Both the threat and the actual execution – if it came to that – would, as we say, kill two birds with one stone.

    I think the same is true for Iran. Just state flatly that if attacked, Iran will not bother retaliating against the US but rather against its puppet-master Israel. “If you cross the line, we will launch everything we possess and will exterminate Israel and end the Middle East problems once and for all.” And yes, Israel might still be able to launch some of its nukes, but perhaps not, and even so, Iran would survive. Israel would not.

    Since it’s sufficiently clear that Israel and various Jewish forces are behind the push for the destruction of Iran, it’s time to admit and face that fact publicly. And the way to deal with it is to go to the source. No need to make war with the Banker’s Private Army when you can just kill the banker.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  145. @Anon

    They don’t stick to basics when they accept all the Zionist “covenants” and accompanying insinuations that are the chief emphasis of the Untermyer financed Scofield Bible.

  146. @annamaria

    Stink tanks and the Epstein nation of Israel! Delicious!

  147. @SunBakedSuburb

    It’s shameful to be Jewish, as some Jewish authors on this site know too well.

  148. @Bruce Arney

    You think “pimply” kids can’t kill? Wake up, Mano-a-Mano bozo. Anyone can kill you. Kid or warrior, you’re still dead. That’s the job. Get it?

  149. @Anon

    Why do you hate Evangelicals? Because the media portrays them badly.

    I am one of those who hates Evangelicals of all religions, but I hate the propaganda dirtbags of the mass media even more!

  150. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Israel will never feel secure because of the paranoia at the heart of its national character. Hence those wars will never end.

  151. @Colin Wright

    We don’t even have the moral courage to openly and frankly launch an aggressive war against Iran. We need her to attack us ‘first’ so that we can pretend we’re defending ourselves.

    Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, 9/11 anyone? The same old game plan, time after time. You’d think they could be a little more creative,

  152. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Comrade be careful, your sickle and hammer are showing…

  153. annamaria says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “Solzhenitsyn was idiotic fanatical moron”

    — I am not asking you about your IQ and am not interested in Solzhenitsyn’s IQ. However, since you are so obviously assured of your righteousness, here are a few questions for you:

    1. Do you know the name of Jakob Schiff and his role in the Russo-Japanese war of 1905?
    2. Have you heard the name of Lev Bronstein? What was the source of lavish financing that he enjoyed during his activities in Russia?
    3. Have you ever heard about Rozalia Zalkind, Kamenev, Parvus?
    4. Have you ever perused the Jewish American journals of the beginning of the 20th century where the authors claim — openly and with pride — that Bolshevik revolution was Jewish revolution? (For example, “The Bolshevik Revolution was largely the product of Jewish thinking, Jewish discontent, Jewish effort to reconstruct,” American Hebrew, New York, 1920).
    5. Winston Churchill was extremely deferential to his Jewish financiers. Do you believe that he was mistaken when writing that “it was impossible to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews”? https://magonia.com/wp-content/uploads/churchill-jewish-role-in-russian-revolution.pdf
    6. How come that the supposedly very (very, very, very) antisemitic Soviets allowed various powerful Jews to live well into old age; see the mass-murderer Lazar Kaganovich (1893 – 1991) who was the right hand of Stalin.

    Here is a highly informed article that should help to alleviate your ignorance about the Russian history: https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

    Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the country’s total population, they played a highly disproportionate and probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime, effectively dominating the Soviet government during its early years. Soviet historians, along with most of their colleagues in the West, for decades preferred to ignore this subject. The facts, though, cannot be denied.

    With the notable exception of Lenin, most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and — as chairman of the Central Executive Committee — head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  154. @annamaria

    Agree, read the books Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Anthony Sutton and The Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, can be had on amazon.com.

  155. CMC says:

    If this General was so popular in Iran, such a legend, so well known with the regular people,

    AND if there have been and are long term and serious domestic problems in Iran,

    Then maybe the current rulers of Iran (mullahs?) weren’t so sorry to see him … whacked or whatever it is happened to him?

  156. @Colin Wright

    This criminal assassination shows that the US government does not even bother to pretend any more. Iraq is an occupied country. If Iraqi parliament decides to kick the occupiers out, the occupiers would not hesitate to show their true colors. The US government did not hesitate to spill rivers of Iraqi blood before, so it won’t now. The fact that a different clown is currently “in charge” is irrelevant.

  157. @Anon

    “Why do you hate Evangelicals? Because the media portrays them badly. Why does the media do that? Because Evangelicals are (basically) the last true Christians left, and the media hates Christianity for obvious and understandable reasons.”

    Evangelicals are morons. They are too stupid to realize that their movement was infiltrated by Jewish interests ages ago, despite ample documentation (e.g., the Scofield bible scam).

    They support Jews to the hilt, failing to do the most basic reading of Jesus’ attitudes towards them. They provide Israel with massive support, backing it in actions that lead to the death of Christian communities in the Middle East.

    None of them can read Greek or Latin, and they prefer to warble about in their mega churches, speaking in tongues and studiously avoiding Jesus’ very clear statements about the Pharisees and the consequences of rejecting his word.

    And what do they get for this loyalty to Jews?

    Do Jews tone down their production of pornography or obscene/blasphemous movies? Do Jews refrain from damaging Christian communities in the Middle East? Do Jews respect evangelicals?

    Hardly. Jews do f#$# all in return for all that loyalty. Pew Research shows that Jews absolutely detest evangelicals, rating them worse than Muslims.

    Imagine that. You aid Israel in every possible way, and American Jewry views you as inferior to Muslims.

    Watching Evangelicals bow and scrape to Jewry is embarrassing. It’s like an abusive husband who married a loyal woman with down’s syndrome and an IQ of a Golden Retriever. No matter how much he beats her and abuses her, she stays loyal to him. Come to think of it, a Golden Retriever probably has higher levels of education and a better grasp of Christian theology than the average Evangelical.

    The idea that they are better CHristians than the Orthodox is laughable.

    PS: who runs the media? Oh, right. Jews. No wonder they are portrayed badly.

  158. @Miro23

    The US or Trump’s guaranty is not worth a penny. Nobody can trust the US or Israel which is almost the same, since both are managed by the same devil entity, which is also managing the US’s european dominions. Concerning Russia or China, I think that neither Russia or China will start the war with the US but if the US starts it, they wont have the last word.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Miro23
  159. @Gleimhart Mantooso

    You are vermin. Nobody in your ratshit tribe ever was a decent or courageous anything. Just a pack of scbbrous rats whose days are numbered and known.

  160. @MLK

    What a farcical and ridiculous load of codswallaop. Who came up with that story? Trump was Roy Cohn’s bum boy you moron he is a faggot who laundered monjey for Jewish oligarchs who looted Russia in the 90s and had to get away with their stashes before the new broom called Putin swept them into the dustbin. The General who was a great man and warrior in the style of another legendary Muslim general who turned the tide against the raping, pillaging and dishonorable Crusaders. I say that as a descendent of Scottish crusaders. Then as now the Christian West had no single man among them who could match Him in military genius and tactical leadership and planning and there is none among the motley crew of best bootlickers and opportunists who wear uniforms that have more real honor and dignity and more wisdom and merit in their buttons than the crap on a stick gutless pricks who fill them today. Your pathetic crawling maggot like antics really just show how low the modern West has sunk and how impotent and desperate it has become to garner some sort of image of rectitude or moral high ground. Trump is today’s ceaser, he stands at the prow of the ship of Empire, like a whore on a stick. This is something you seem so happy about to the point of having a virtual third leg with that proudly displayed woody you showed us with that post. By this one is inclined to conclude you are what is colloquially referred to as a Trumptard. As opposed to one of those cretins whose equally crippling and debilitating mental illness is called Trump Denial Syndrome. What is most fascinating is the certainty that you eachj think you are different to each other when you are the same in fact. It is just that you’ve been assigned to different teams but you are equally delusional and clueless about the real world, Trump’s place in it or that of the USA foi that matter. If you have to make up feeble fibs to make your guy look good and a very well known for all the right reasons very great and successful General whose most recent claim to fame was his outsized role in eliminating Daesh which was is and always was a US created, trained supplied and directed not to mention PROTECTED US proxy.

    Whatever bullshit you may or may not believe but evdeintly have dined well upon from the smell of this post, the fact is you are cheering for the cowardly murder of a great man who did more to end ISIS abomination than the US entire coalition did.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger, Sasha
    • Replies: @annamaria
  161. anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:

    The US, being an expansionist imperialistic country, has inserted itself everywhere, Asia, ME, etc. As such it’s in conflict with Iran, a country that has been developing into a stronger presence within the region. Geographically and by level of human resource level and population it is the natural hegemonic country of the entire region and as it continues to develop it will naturally wish to assert it’s role. This brings it into conflict with the US which does not wish to see it’s own role diminished and so has tried to stymie Iranian development towards it’s role of becoming a dominant power within the region.Thus we have had this long standing clash between Iran and the US. This is independent of what Israel or Saudi Arabia may want us to do. That various entities like the neo-cons are loud in their rhetoric doesn’t mean that they were the ones giving orders. This clash is inherent in US economic and foreign policy, a policy that has been in place, taken shape and intensified ever since the Spanish-American war whetted taste of the US. It’s baked in and is not a product of some small ethnic or religious group who might lend their cheerleading to it. This assassination ratchets things up quite a bit so now we are entering unknown territory. It’ll be interesting to see how things play out.

  162. annamaria says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Thank you for the great post.

  163. Ever since Trump announced his decision to back out of M.E. imbroglios, the Empire has been trying to push him back in particularly through its agents the so-called neo-cons. The attack on the US Embassy was an action by an Empire proxy (as you know Iran is, as with most countries in the M.E., including Israel, sadly) in order to force Trump to do something or be painted with another Benghazi incident. Trump did what they wanted, but went them one better as is his style… and stuffed it in their mouth as one suspects the Iranian leadership is not happy being deprived of one of its best terrorist operators and has had some words for its Empire masters as to its disadvantage to following their instructions.
    Now, despite its verbal braggadocio, Iran may have to do something it does not want to do as it does not have the money for a huge and extensive military expedition with a country that could make it a parking lot in short order.
    One suspect we will see peripheral actions outside the M.E. to which Iran will tag its name, most likely actions by its own proxies, ordered to save the face of their masters.
    It will be interesting, but IMHO it will not be a war. It is Iran having to do what its masters demand. Tough being a virtual slave, eh?

  164. @annamaria

    Honey please!!!!
    I did live there you did not.
    ……………………….
    Give liberty or give me death======B.S.
    Simple axiom !!!!!!!!!
    People still prefer to live in misery to bullet in the head.
    ………………….
    Yes Communist did kill the nobility and some rich people but they were not killing people just for the fun of it. So claims of some people that there were million and millions of people murdered is pathetic.
    And as Wally would say: Where is the evidence? Where are the bones? ……………………………,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    99% of Russians were so poor that you cannot even imagine. They did hope that Communists will bring them better life. And actually communists did. Not much but still some.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  165. @Johnny Walker Read

    ‘Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, 9/11 anyone? The same old game plan, time after time. You’d think they could be a little more creative…’

    If it keeps working, why change?

  166. @Meimou

    My dear Meimoustein, or should it be Haj al-Meimou?

    Posobiec is a little young to gain the gravitas in patriotic Right circles that he has, but as a Catholic Pole he has as much Cohen Juice on his mouth as you have Muhammad wax in your ears. If he or other Right figures like Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson support Israel, instead of spraying idiocies about their alleged J-genes provide convincing arguments against their position.

    BTW, you missed this demonstration reported at yet-another Cohen Juice website: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/pro-iran-rally-outside-trump-white-house-was-organized-by-communists/.

  167. @Anon

    Evangelicals stick to the basics (“the fundamentals”).

    Kill, kill, kill in the name of Jesus.
    Shill, shill, shill in the name of Zion.

  168. @Shaman911

    Demon-inspired twaddle is almost scary.

  169. anarchyst says:
    @Ayatolla Smith

    “I think the same is true for Iran. Just state flatly that if attacked, Iran will not bother retaliating against the US but rather against its puppet-master Israel. “If you cross the line, we will launch everything we possess and will exterminate Israel and end the Middle East problems once and for all.” And yes, Israel might still be able to launch some of its nukes, but perhaps not, and even so, Iran would survive. Israel would not.”

    One could only hope…

  170. @Ghali

    Global arsonism unleashed…

    RIP Keith.

  171. AWM says:

    I just refuse to believe those S-400s couldn’t protect Queerbait Salami.
    Aloha Snackbar!

    • Disagree: JamesinNM
  172. @jbwilson24

    Well… maybe there will be rapture, LOL.

    Jesus will return and finally zap the bad Jews who don’t convert.

  173. JamesinNM says:

    A nuclear exchange with Russia will kill 100,000,000 Americans. It won’t be a video game.

  174. Corvinus says:
    @Phil_from_NJ

    “Trump doesn’t owe Russia anything, so shove that Russia got Trump elected, totally bogus narrative back up your arse.”

    Not bogus in the least. Clearly you haven’t been paying attention.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  175. @Anonymous

    Yes, and Roosevelt did the same thing to the Japanese.

  176. Thank you again Whitney Webb for balance and objectivity.

    Here’s another one.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/soleimani-anti-imperialist-hero-200105211451136.html

    Are Iran/Soleimani blameless?

    Compares them to US/Trump and Israel/Netanyahu and Russia/Putin…

  177. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:

    The American way/Mossad way is to attack first then cry that they were just about to kill our people.

  178. annamaria says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Spare us your admiration for Jewish Bolsheviks. If Russia has been recovering from the bloodshed of the revolution and the ensuing civil war, it is because of the Russian character (forgiving, unlike the ever hateful hunters for Amaleks) and the habit of persevering.

    Wherever you have studied the Russain History, you need to learn a thing or two about Russian zemstvos and the great Russian statesmen like Stolypin and Witte who have been working hard and effectively to reforming the Russian Empire so that it would have become a normal European state in around 1930-1940. Instead, Mr. Schift the banker and a bunch of obnoxious activists who always “knew better” had arranged a genocide of Russian nobility, professional class, priesthood, merchants, and competent farmers.

    The same lunatics who are not able to solve their family problems feel confident at solving a nation’s problem by any means, particularly when securing the well-paid commandeering positions. For the Jewish Community at large, instead of quetching on a holobiz theme (and running the holobiz profiteering schema), it is long overdue to acknowledge the bloody crimes of Jewish Bolsheviks.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  179. @Johnny Walker Read

    Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, 9/11 anyone? The same old game plan, time after time. You’d think they could be a little more creative

    When you control the mass media this stuff works.

    If it failed they would try something else.

  180. @annamaria

    I agree with you, just please do not talk about Millions and Millions of dead.
    And Stolypin was not such a big deal.
    Naturally after revolution there was chaos and people suffered. And of course because lack of necessities many people have died. Yes during blanket nationalization of means production and land, those who resisted were killed, although later they were sent to Siberia.
    But only Lenin understand what had to be done. Russia itself was not able to overcome the backwardness.
    Lenin did hire thousand and thousand experts from Germany who were leaders in rebuilding Russia into modern state.
    And Lenin did pay them well in gold.
    That was the moment when Russia did wake up from slumber and did cross the threshold into modern age.
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    And yes there was a dirty work which had to be done and most of it were done by willing Jews.
    But the responsibility lies with Communist party, and to single out Jews as to carry solemn responsibility is a little bit unfair.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  181. Maybe its a way to start leaving the Middle East. Or at least Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

  182. @MLK

    Please excuse the Troll tag. I’ve been waiting for Unz to add a Retard tag, and I just got a little impatient. Just consider it a Retard tag, though either one is applicable.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  183. @lysias

    I agree, generally, though I don’t include myself in the “we” cohort. Good observation on Lincoln’s move with Fort Sumter. You know who Gustavus Fox was, obviously.

  184. @Old_One_Number_2

    “Of course, I live in a state (Va.) that is now ‘blue’, so my vote wouldn’t have counted anyway.”

    I live in Va too. Funny, ain’t it, how the map shows Virginia as a big sea of red with a few blue enclaves around the cities, but suddenly all those red enclaves went blue in the last election? It ain’t the kind of funny that makes you laugh, though.

  185. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Dear lady, I am donating some !s so that you can reload for your next post.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Glad to help.

  186. annamaria says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Your ‘essay’ is an astonishing display of ignorance, brainwashing, and disrespect to the great builders and patriots of Russia. Not only you have meager knowledge of the history of Russia, but you also display your ignorance with the aplomb of a veritable parvenue.

    https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=694

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  187. @annamaria

    Stubborn little deviles!

    I do have a sad news for you!

    Everything written in US including university press about Russian history is such a crap that it turns my stomach and I do have to close my nose because it stink so much.
    But as I can see that you are a true believer.
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Anyway.
    Whatever turns you on is fine with me.

    p.s
    I was never a communist and am generally convinced that communist system is flowed and it can never work because it suppresses the personal initiative of the individual.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  188. @jbwilson24

    Well said. As conservatives, evangelicals are feckless and pathetic. They couldn’t stop gay marriage and they certainly can’t stop the latest trans lunacy which is the left’s new pet cause. They conserve absolutely nothing. They endlessly shill for Israel and believe that salvation lies between the ass cheeks of Jewry, which is where they have planted their collective face. Evangelicals are the scum of the earth.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  189. @I'm Tyrone

    Completely agree. And when liberals move on to the next abomination, like “tolerance” for pedophilia, the Christian cucks will still do nothing but mindlessly cheer on war.

  190. annamaria says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The link was provided for those readers who were curious about the discussion and wanted to learn more about pre-revolutionary Russia. Judging from your posts, you preferred historian is Ilya Ehrenburg: https://zionistnarrative.wordpress.com/2018/01/01/ilya-ehrenburg-zionists-chief-propagandist/

    As for your insinuations that Russia was intellectually impoverished at the beginning of the 20th century, one does not even need to do a serious investigation to contradict your “knowledge.”
    Wikipedia, Russian inventors:

    All-Russia exhibition 1896 in Nizhny Novgorod. An electric tram, an earlier invention by Fyodor Pirotsky, drives between the pavilions featuring breakthrough designs by Vladimir Shukhov: the world’s first steel tensile structures, gridshells, thin-shells, and the first hyperboloid steel tower. The exhibition demonstrated the first lightning detector and an early radio receiver of Alexander Popov, caterpillar tractor of Fyodor Blinov, the first Russian automobile, and other technical achievements.

    Sciences and math in Russia in the 19th – beginning 20th century:

    Nikolai Lobachevsky founded the non-Euclidean geometry playing an important role in modern physics… Yevgraf Fyodorov was a founder of the modern structural crystallography… After such prominent scientists as Chebyshev, the Russian mathematical school became one of the most influential in the world. Chebyshev’s students included Aleksandr Lyapunov who founded the modern stability theory and Andrey Markov who developed the theory of Markov chains, playing a central role in information sciences and modern applied mathematics…
    At the beginning of the 20th century, Nikolai Zhukovsky and Sergei Chaplygin were among founding fathers of the modern aero- and hydrodynamics and Vladimir Kotelnikov was a pioneer in information theory by independently proposing the fundamental sampling theorem. …
    On the eve of World War I, imperial Russia had a rail network extending 58,500 kilometers. In 1913 it carried 132.4 million tons of freight over an average distance of 496 kilometers, and 184.8 million passengers boarded its trains.

    • Replies: @Alden
  191. The Neocons are going for a triple: eliminate a top Iranian leader, get America to destroy Iran’s most advanced technology, and topple Trump’s presidency with an unpopular war so that he doesn’t get a second term.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  192. @Beavertales

    Very respectful assessment.I may say..

  193. eah says:
    @eah

  194. anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Whew … you’re back to normal.

  195. @Anonymous

    Why would I be troubled that Iran has a force called Jerusalem force?

    I’m not Israeli, I have no family or friends who live in or would consider moving to Israel, and Israel is not a treaty ally of the USA.

    My family and friends and I have no stake in who rules or inhabits Jerusalem.

    What was the point of the “shocking” translation of Quds?

  196. @Sean

    We have solved that here in LA by making sure nobody can drive fast enough to get badly hurt.

    • LOL: Alden
  197. Incitatus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “And here I was thinking it was merely a matter of choosing between two unpalatable alternatives.
    Little did I realize my peril. Can I never regain your trust?”

    LOL! “Trust” is last in your pantomime; “peril” never present.

    Spin on CW.

  198. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Has anybody seen this

    from https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/01/08/the-deeper-story-behind-the-assassination-of-soleimani/

    Iraq’s PM:

    [MORE]

    “Abdul-Mehdi spoke angrily about how the Americans had ruined the country and now refused to complete infrastructure and electricity grid projects unless they were promised 50% of oil revenues, which Abdul-Mehdi refused.

    The complete (translated) words of Abdul-Mahdi’s speech to parliament:

    This is why I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead. Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.

    Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me.

    I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.

    After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.

    Nobody imagined that the threat was to be applied to General Soleimani, but it was difficult for Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi to reveal the weekslong backstory behind the terrorist attack.

    I was supposed to meet him [Soleimani] later in the morning when he was killed. He came to deliver a message from Iran in response to the message we had delivered to the Iranians from the Saudis.

    What clearly emerges is that the success of the operation against Soleimani had nothing to do with the intelligence gathering of the US or Israel. It was known to all and sundry that Soleimani was heading to Baghdad in a diplomatic capacity that acknowledged Iraq’s efforts to mediate a solution to the regional crisis with Saudi Arabia.

    .

    https://www.strategic-cultu&#8230;

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  199. annamaria says:
    @anon

    “…the U.S. and Israel’s determination to prevent peace in the region and instead increase chaos and instability.”

    — These two states have a working policy of mass murder. The “shining city upon a hill” and the Epstein nation of holobiz have become criminal enterprises in the open. Only some apocalyptic event could stop the raging psychopaths (always garbed in sanctimonious piety) from ruining the lives of millions of innocent people around the globe. Whether Venezuela, or Ukraine, or Syria, the ZUSA’ useless and good-for-nothing “deciders” have brought death and destruction upon the innocent. The “deciders” — from Clintons to Bush, Blair, Cheney, Obama, and Sarkozy — deserve all kinds of ruin for themselves and their immediate profiteering families.

    The unmistakeable sign of the decay of ZUSA is the astonishing incompetence and ignorance of ZUSA’s “elites.”

  200. Where do you find these goons, these Iranian skills.

    The dead guy was playing the fool during an attack on our embassy, thinking, in the arrogant way Iranians do that he was one of Allah’s chosen, well, now he gets to visit.

    • Replies: @anon
  201. Miro23 says:
    @Desert Fox

    I would expect the ZUS to sink one of our own ships and blame Iran for it and then launch an all out attack on Iran.

    Alternatively, the mother of all False Flags would be a direct attack on Trump. He’s already been threatened by Iran, and Iran would automatically carry the blame = a US / Iran war. Just second guessing the Zionists.

    Iranian denials would have no chance of being heard and the Jewish gangsters would get the even more Zionist (if that’s possible) Pence.

  202. KA says:

    WSJ 1/10/2020
    By Wall Street Journal
    Friday , January 10,2020
    Vol . CCLXXV. NO.8

    Page 1 continued to page A 11

    By Michael C.Bender
    Michael R Gordon
    Gordon Lubold and Warren P .Strobel

    Assassination was carried out , according to Trump from pressure of people who would be of important help to fight impeachment trial in the Senate ( A11 in column 4-

    The Team Behind Iran Strike)

    Or more correctly

    “ Wall Street Journal reported Friday that following the drone strike on Soleimani last week, Trump told unspecified associates “he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate.”

    http://www.commindreams.org

  203. Miro23 says:
    @Jean de Peyrelongue

    Using nuclear weapons (for example on Iran) is opening Pandoras’s Box. Russia and China will be obliged to recalculate the whole thing on a more dangerous level.

  204. anon[145] • Disclaimer says:
    @tradecraft46

    “Suleiman’s death could bring a sense of realism to the Islamic Republic’s thinking,’ says the Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad.”-

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/opinion/iran-airstrike.html

    She ,Masih received more than $305,000 in contracts for her work at Voice of America (VOA) Persia between May, 2015 and September 10, 2019, the date of her most recent contract.

    CNN, and New York and Fox news quote her to gaslight American into thinking that they are getting the real impression of what Iranians think.,

    https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2020/01/06/u-s-media-outlets-fail-to-disclose-u-s-government-ties-of-iranian-journalist-echoing-trump-talking-points/

    American media is beyond any hope of becoming ever independent of sinister forces that run the show in DC. Information you gather is really not worth the paper it is printed on.

  205. anastasia says:

    They also described the person killed in the air attack at Kirkuk as a “civilian interpreter”

    They are lying.

  206. @Colin Wright

    Israel’s golem cries out in pain as it assassinated your generals.

  207. Alden says:
    @annamaria

    By 1870, Russia was the 4th greatest industrial power in the world, the others being USA Germany UK.

    By 1910 the Russian government and power companies had mapped out a plan to electrify the entire country. And begun the work.

    In the 186o’s compulsory free education began. About that time numerous tuition free universities were built.

    Russia wasn’t backward at all. It was a progressive modernizing country. Russia will take at least a century to recover from what the Jewish communists did to destroy it.

    From 4th largest industrial power in the world in 1870 to the mess it became under communism.

    This is just anecdotal, one person. She immigrated to US from Russia when she was 20 in 1998. She goes, very reluctantly, goes back to visit occasionally. She says Russia, near St Petersburg is a total dump with all those soviet built projects falling apart needing constant repairs. She says Russia’s a total dump. Just one person. Most of the numerous Russians who’ve been pouring into California say the thing thing.

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