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To begin, let’s recap what just happened in the Crimean waters. First, the HMS Defender deliberately entered the Russian waters under the pretext that the Brits don’t recognize what they call the “annexation” of Crimea. The Brits deny it, but after seeing 4 bombs explode ahead of the HMS Defender, they altered their course as the Russians demanded.

Next, before looking into this deeper, let’s also keep in mind the following fact: the entire Black Sea is a de facto “Russian lake” meaning that Russia has the full military control of the Black Sea. For those alternatively gifted, let me explain what this means:

  • The Bal and Bastion coastal defense missiles can sink any ship in the Black Sea in minutes.
  • The Black Sea Fleet has seven advanced diesel-electric attack submarines, arguably the most advanced on the planet.
  • The HMS Defender was operating without any air cover but detected over 20 Russian military aircraft overflying it.

For a more detailed discussion of this reality, please see these four (here, here, here and here) articles by Andrei Martyanov. For a more detailed discussion of the laws of the sea, please see this discussion by Nat South.

In other words, the HMS Defender was a sitting duck with no chance of survival had the Russians decided to fire in anger. General Konashenkov, who is in charge of contacts with the media, had this to say about the outcome of the British provocation: (emphasis added)

“The epic fiasco of the provocation of the British destroyer Defender in the Black Sea, which abruptly changed course from Russian territorial waters after the warning shots of the patrol ship, will remain a fragrant stain on the reputation of the Royal Navy for a long time”

(-: Thereby suggesting that the Brits soiled their pants and ran for their lives 🙂

Speaking of anger: I have been parsing the Russian media over the past couple of days and I will only say that there are A LOT of commentators who are mad at the Kremlin for NOT opening fire in earnest and sinking the Defender.

Furthermore, several Russian officials have now indicated that the next time around, the intruders would be destroyed.

Did I mention that the British Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, George Eustice declared in an interview that the Brits plan to repeat such operations in the future?

This now begs the question: would the Kremlin really risk WWIII by sinking a British Navy Ship trying to, to use a British expression, “poke the Russian bear”?

Interestingly, the Brits deny that the Russians fired any munitions ahead of the Defender. Why would they do that? My personal explanation is that the British government does not want to freak out the British and European public opinion. But if they are hiding the truth, it means that this is a truth which makes them uncomfortable. What do you think they might be hiding?

Still, the two UK reporters who were on the Defender (by total coincidence, I am sure), both reported hearing explosions and seeing Russian combat aircraft. The Russian FSB also released video footage taken from the Russian border patrol ships which were shadowing the HMS Defender. You can clearly see the Russian firing their guns ahead of the HMS Defender:

The Russians also have radar footage from many sources and it has been really easy for them to prove that the Defender changed course and left after four bombs exploded ahead on its course.

The reason for all this? “We don’t recognize the annexation of Crimea”. Which makes no sense because EVEN if the UK does not recognize the Russian “annexation” of Crimea (and, along with that, the democratic will of the people of Crimea), they should still recognize the indisputable fact that Russia is the “occupying power” which, therefore, has the legal right to deny any ship “innocent passage” if it believes that this ship is a threat, collecting intelligence or used for propaganda purposes (again, read Nat South’s superb discussion on the applicability of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to this situation). As usual, the Brits are lying about everything, including what the UNCLOS really says…

Now let’s look at this from the Russian point of view.

First, the Russians remember how the Brits declared a 200 miles zone around the Malvinas Islands (“Falklands” in UK parlance) and immediately sunk the cruiser General Belgrano as soon as it entered this zone. The Russians also remember how the Turks shot down a Russian SU-24 over Syria because it had penetrated in Turkish air space for exactly 6 seconds. The HMS Defender spent about 30 minutes in Russian waters.

Can you really blame them for feeling that “some are more equal than others”?

The Brits, being the superior race which only they think they are, declared that they only changed course because a slower Russian vessel was ahead of them and they decided to pass it from the open waters side. In fact, the Brits are so superior to the mongoloid Russian hordes and their dictator that they refused to even reply to the Russian coast guard vessel when it threatened to open fire if the Brits did not change course.

NOT talking to Russia, ever, seems to be the latest fad with NATO. The same goes for the EU which is now hostage to the 3B+PU nutcases.

(I wonder, does anybody still believe this crap? Does anybody still believe that Great Britain is, well, great? In Russia the expression “мелкобритания” is increasingly used. Translated into English this would be something like “Tiny Britain”)

Anyways, all of the above clearly shows one of two things:

  • The Brits do not believe that Russia could sink a UK warship
  • The Brits are willing to risk a major military incident possibly leading to war in order to maintain tensions between Russia and the collective West (aka the AngloZionist Empire).

This begs the question: are the Brits correct, or are they delusional?

First, we need to understand the purpose of this provocation: to disrupt the planned summit between the EU and Russia which France and Germany seemed to support, and which the 3B+PU and the Netherlands and the Czech Republic (iirc) categorically opposed (the Ukraine is not member of the EU, but they sure acted as if they had some kind of moral veto power over EU decisions). Sure, the UK has Brexited and should therefore not have any say in EU decisions, but the Anglosphere has enough power over the EU to make this completely irrelevant. We also know that Boris Johnson personally gave the order to the HMS Defender to enter Russian waters. Obviously, that kind of high level decision could not have been taken without Uncle Shmuel’s approval, thus we are dealing with a very deliberately calculated action. If this was the goal, it has been a total success and the Brits just screwed over Macron and Merkel.

Second, this is really largely irrelevant for Russia. If the EU cannot muster enough political courage to talk to Russia, then Russia will directly talk with those countries which want to talk to Russia. To put it bluntly, Russia does not give a damn about the 3B+PU. As for the Netherlands, they are a big investor in the Russian economy and Russians don’t care about what the Dutch might or might not say, as long as they keep investing (in Euros, by the way!), which, so far, they still are. Besides, considering the economic size of Holland, even if they stopped investing this would only be a minor nuisance for Russia. In fact, Merkel has even declared that if the EU cannot agree to have a dialog with Russia, Germany would seek other venues for this purpose.

Third, what just happened is yet another clear sign that the EU is profoundly dysfunctional. After the end of the USSR in 1991, russophobic Neocons in the West decided to make the Russians “pay” by incorporating ex WTO and ex Soviet Republics into NATO. At first, it looked great, but now it has become clear that the blowback from this truly idiotic policy has many unexpected benefits for Russia and major problems for the Empire. They include:

  • Russia got rid of all the Soviet periphery which was bleeding the Soviet Union dry.
  • None of the newly created states has become a viable, successful state.
  • The Empire spent many billions trying to prop up these newly independent states (ex USSR and eastern Europe) and tried to turn them into some anti-Russia showcase. They totally and comprehensively failed.
  • Now the UK and, even more so, the 3B+PU have taken the EU hostage and are preventing the countries which matter from, well, mattering anymore.
  • Countries bordering Russia are now all demanding NATO troops, which puts the latter in the worst possible position, right across the Russian border and, therefore, within range of too many Russian weapons to list here.
  • Last, but not least, the stupid and, frankly, totally irresponsible actions of countries like the UK and the Ukraine risk involving all of Europe in a most dangerous and devastating war.

Bottom line is this: the leaders of the AngloZionist thought they had scored big with the expansion of the EU and NATO. Now they are screwed in a major way and with no solution in sight.

This all is hardly big news, but yet another confirmation of the advanced state of collapse of both NATO and the EU. Conversely, the more EU countries decide to hold bilateral talks with Russia, the better for the future of the European continent.

As for the Brits, they are clearly suffering from phantom pains for their lost empire. Think of it, in less than one century the British Empire went from being the empire upon which the sun never sets, (Britannia rules the waves, etc.) to being the USA’s poodle which nobody respects or takes seriously. Bojo is desperate to prove that he is a “new Churchill” which will teach the damn Russians (and Chinese!) to kowtow to the UK or, failing that, at least kowtow to the Anglosphere. And, as a typical western politician, Bojo is both too ignorant and too narcissistic to understand the risks he is taking.

The Brits seemed to be combining imperialist arrogance (and delusion!) with a truly shocking lack of PR skills. Not only did they deny that the Russians opened warning fire ahead of them, only to have the FSB prove this denial false by publishing the video of the Russian coast guard vessel firing ahead of the Defender, but now they came up with a truly clumsy piece of nonsense about how a “super dooper secret” dossier on the British plans was somehow apparently found by a passer-by in a heap of trash behind a bus stop in Kent (you think I am joking, then see here). Needless to say, the Russians openly made fun of the Brits saying that “007 agents agents aren’t what they used to be”. Furthermore, it now appears that some top UK officials were very much opposed to this move which was demanded by Johnson personally (see here and here).

What about the British military?

We know that their actual capabilities are laughable. But what about their understanding of the situation?

I am not a mind reader and I don’t know what the British sailors (and their bosses) were thinking, but there is one thing which I am sure of: the next time around (and, there will be a next time according to UK ministers), the Russians will use force. If possible, they will try to ram the intruding vessel; if not, they might strike at the intruding vessel’s engines/props to disable it and, possibly, tow it. Should the intruding vessel try to fire back, the Russians would probably fire a torpedo and disable it. That is my best guess. I also decided to ask Andrei Martyanov (a former Soviet Navy officer) what he thinks will happen the next time around. Here is his reply:

“Most likely, they will open fire, but first only with small-caliber naval artillery (30-mm from the Russian border patrol ship or even 76-mm), and that fire will be aimed at the propeller-steering group (i.e. at the stern) to begin with. At the same time, the coastal defense batteries will actively track the intruder with their targeting radar, plus the Russian will “hang” 15-20 Su-24 and SU-30SM in immediate readiness to use more serious means – for example, the supersonic (M = 3.5) anti-radiation X-31 and take out the mast with its radar. That is just for starters. Next, the Russians will gage the reaction of the intruder: if they try to shoot at any Russian target, they will be sunk. But this would only happen inside Russian territorial waters. Outside Russian waters the Russians will only monitor their moves. Lastly, do not forget – there are anywhere between 4 and 7 Project 636 submarines at any one time patrolling the Black Sea, each capable of firing 6 3M54 anti-ship missiles in one salvo.”

The British paratroopers also recently engaged in a major airdrop in Jordan. The Brits see that as, quote “as show of force to ISIS and Russia”. Russia’s reaction? The Russian Aerospace Forces dispatched two MiG-31K carrying the Kinzhal hypersonic missiles to the Russian Aerospace base in Khmeimim, thus showing the Brits that their ships in the Mediterranean and Black Sea sail at the pleasure of Russia. Again, this won’t be reported by the western legacy ziomedia in order to keep the public opinion totally unaware of the risks Bojo and his gang are taking in the name of their phantom pains about empire. Russian Aerospace Forces Tu-22M3M were also recently deployed to Khmeimim.

Here is a short video of the Russian MoD Zvezda channel to give you an idea of how this all looks (in Russian, but no translation needed) and which quite openly shows whom the Russians consider their likely target.

Here is a Zerohedge article discussing some of this.

Does anybody still remember what happened when the “invincible” British Navy tried to participate in Trump’s (totally failed) cruise missile attack on Syria? The British subs in the Mediterranean were shadowed by not one, but apparently two Russian submarines. That convinced the British sub commander that firing its missiles would be suicidal. The Brits gave up and left the area.

There is a pattern here: western politicians make a lot of very loud statements; the Russians simply take whatever actions they deem necessary, which frees them from the need to make threats of roaring statements in the first place.

This approach has a problem: only highly specialized people in the West are fully aware of what the Russians are doing and even less people fully understand the implications of the Russian actions. Add to this a western media which lies for a living, and this results in a population in Europe which is almost totally unaware of the very real risks the reckless actions of their (supposed) representative governments engage in. How many Brits will realize that a grinning and apparently happy Boris Johnson has almost stumbled into a war with Russia? Very few I bet. If anything, the common folk in the West are told that (a) their military is the best and (b) that the Russian military is much weaker and the Russians understand that. Ergo: there is no risk.

Then there is the fact that while the general population is kept in total ignorance, western political elites are mostly composed of folks with very strong narcissistic tendencies combined with a total inability to learn from mistakes (both theirs and those of others). Needless to say, history does not inform these people either. Finally, since these folks can never admit a mistake, however minor or serious, they cannot change course; doubling down over and over is pretty much all they are capable of.

Conclusion:

There is no doubt that the Biden Administration has taken a very different course towards Russia (and Iran, by the way!) than the one favored by the Trump administration. I attribute this change of policy to the likely realization by top Pentagon officials that the US desperately needs to “catch its breath” and that the US military is in no condition to take on any other halfway competent military. Even if this is a ploy to win time for reorganizing, I welcome this as, by definition, anything is preferable to war, especially a full-scale war. However, there are clearly interests in both the US and Europe which are desperately opposed to any form of detente with Russia and who want to maintain an atmosphere of crisis and tensions just short of war. Of course, I don’t believe in any meaningful differences between the various factions competing for power on a strategic level: they all want to destroy, submit, break up and otherwise devastate Russia. This 1000 year old dream of the western ruling elites (pretty much all of them) still remains the strategic target of the West. But on a tactical level there appear to be two factions, one which understands that the Empire desperately needs a break to regroup and refine its strategy and another one which still seems to believe that the Empire is invincible and appears to be hell-bent on triggering as many conflicts/wars as it deems necessary to restore Uncle Shmuel’s worldwide hegemony.

That second group, clearly strong, has ties with the UK and the 3B+PU gang who are desperate to remain relevant and who understands that should there ever be any type detente (or even a tense modus vivendi) agreed upon between Russia and the West, that group would become comprehensively irrelevant to the future of our planet. While we can disagree with this logic, we have to remain aware that for countries like the UK or the 3B+PU this is truly an existential issue and that they see a continuation of tensions as the only path to political survival. On this specific point, I happen to agree with them.

I mentioned that ever since Dubya, all the US Presidents who came to the White House were extremely weak, which resulted in the breakup of any single US foreign policy into many different, and often contradictory, “mini foreign policies” by various branches of the government (Congress vs White House, plus a Pentagon foreign policy, a CIA foreign policy, a Foggy Bottom policy, a DoE policy, etc. etc. etc.). Hence, for example, the recent seizure by Uncle Shmuel of the PressTV domain name. (BTW – the domain name https://www.presstv.ir/ still works!).

This all makes for a very dangerous brew. Especially since the Russians clearly and sincerely believe that they cannot back down any further.

I therefore conclude that a future military incident, with the use of fire in anger, and possibly resulting in a real war, remains not only possible, but even likely, unless the factions in the West which want a time-out to regroup manage to get the russophobic nutcases under control.

Will that happen? I doubt it very much. Biden is not only weak and senile, his Administration has been organized with wokeness and (pseudo) “diversity” as opposed to competence or expertise. Thus, the collective Biden (which I designate as “Biden” as opposed to the real Biden) is probably too weak to get the crazies under control, even for a short time.

And here is the really scary thing: from the Russian point of view (and Russians all understand all of the above), sinking a British ship might well be the best solution. Why? Because once this happens, it will be impossible to conceal from the western public opinion that its so-called “leaders” are reckless, incompetant, delusional and simply dangerous narcissists who are now willing to risk a continental war (possibly nuclear!) just in order to keep denying the reality of their irrelevance. If Russia wanted to invade the UK, I believe that most Brits would be willing to risk it all to defend their motherland. But I very much doubt that a majority/plurality of Brits would support the notion of dying for Crimea even if they believe that Russia “annexed” the peninsula and is now “oppressing the Ukrainian people of Crimea”. Nor would they want to die over MH17, Skripal, Syria, Navalnyi or the oppressed homos in Chechnia.

There is one more thing I think Putin could do: make a solemn speech and directly address the people of the West telling them the truth about what the western political leaders are doing. He could honestly tell the people in the West that Russia has retreated as far as she could. He can tell the people of the West that Russia did what she so often did in history, she traded space for time and that the four years break of the Trump Administration has allowed Russia to fully rearm, retrain and reorganize her armed forces which are now quite capable of taking on both the US and NATO and prevail.

Yes, I know, Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi tried to appeal to the people of the West and, in both cases, the democratic and free western media completely obfuscated these admittedly naive and clumsy attempts. But if Putin speaks directly to the people of the West, and explains to them what a war (even a conventional one) would mean for Europe, they would have to listen. Putin could clearly indicate to the people of the West which actions of the Empire Russia could never and would never tolerate. Finally, he could clearly spell out why the Russian people would prefer war to any surrender to the Empire. And, just to make sure that the message gets through, the Russian Navy might want to have one of its Yasen-M class SSGN surface somewhere in the Channel or the Tu-160 practice a cruise missile release on London (only electronically, of course). Hussein and Gaddafi did not have such capabilities. Russia does, and she should make use of them.

Fear, especially existential fear, might well be the only thing which could break through the wall of silence and disinformation which the western media has been feeding the people for decades.

How much hope do I place in the Biden Administration taking control of the nutcases or for Putin to directly address the people of the West? Not much at all. And the next best outcome is for Russia to sink a US/UK warship (or shoot down an aircraft) without triggering a continental war. Is that even possible? Yes, I think so. Very dangerous, but possible.

Does Russia have any other choice? If so, I don’t see it. Do you?

Post scriptum: this just in – the USS Ross (DDG-71), an Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer in the United States Navy, has just entered to Black Sea on her way to Odessa where the Ukies are preparing monoevers if their “mosquito fleet” in the latest “Sea Breeze” NATO maneuvers (the biggest ones to date – 30 countries participate!). The Ukies have also declared that the Ross plans to follow the exact same course as the Defender did. The Russians? They announced that the USS Ross is now a “fat target” on their coastal defense missiles Bal and Bastion. As for Foreign Minister Lavrov, he just authored a seminal article entitled “The Law, the Rights and the Rules” which, still using diplomatic language, shows the utter disgust even Russian diplomats feel for the incompetence and hypocrisy of the West.

“More of the same” seems to be the trend of the day…

 
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  1. Shocking lack of diversity on the bridge of that Russian warship. How do they expect to beat our stunning and brave forces?

  2. Notsofast says:

    putin and russia don’t have to do anything other than what are are already doing, react to these senseless provocations one by one, standing firm on each occasion as nato and its poodles immediately back down. russia and china only have to wait out the demise and collapse of this crumbling empire.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @moi
  3. Fear is an import force, and good people and nations should remember that there is nothing evil in making the ignorant and the vile afraid to make evil choices, what is wrong is letting them grow untamed and allowing them a chance to commit their great crimes. The universe punishes apathy.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
  4. Chris Moore says: • Website

    “We don’t recognize the annexation of Crimea”.

    I see. But they do recognize the Jewish annexation of Palestine. Because when it comes to Imperial ZOG, might makes right. Why, just ask the “Deplorables,” who are the equivalent of Palestinians (although some of them are so haughty and stupid they still “trust the plan,” which is like saying “trust the Jews”).

    Imperial ZOG knows no limits, because Imperial ZOG believes its own “chosen” hasbara. In other words, Imperial ZOG is a deluded and insane, stiff-necked jackass.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Anon
  5. A NATO ship would make an excellent target for one of Russia’s hypersonic missiles. They could launch from a thousand miles away and scream in like out of nowhere.

    Then the owners of the destroyed vessel can once again say that nothing happened so as not to start a real war that NATO would lose. Given the empire’s ability to spin, obfuscate and deny reality, they can claim the ship went down a few days later due to some tragic accident on board. Any video and radar the Russians might have would just be more Russian propaganda.

    At some point, Russia is going to have to send a message the west understands. Should anything serious start, Ukraine would be overrun in short order. Since Biden just told Ukraine to pound sand and Ukraine voted with China at the UN, maybe some juicy Biden family leaks concerning their business deals and political arm twisting might surface soon.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Realist
    , @mike99588
  6. Obviously the saker also hasn’t read the relevant UNCLOS law,because if he had he needn’t have bothering to right this long winded waffle

    Here’s a little bit of history just to put all the saker waffle in perspective

    Look up the 1988 Black Sea bumping incident,and how America and the Soviets changed the UNCLOS relevant law afterwards

    The fact is it’s Russia who are incapable of their treaty obligations by their behaviour,especially their claims about the use of weapons,which is absolutely forbidden unless the Royal Navy ship was undertaking acts of aggression,which it wasn’t

    So if Russia wants to start a war then it just needs to follow the sakers advice,because it’ll be Russia who start it carrying on like this not NATO

  7. Saker

    If you saw the Stephen King Movie IT, then you would know the obvious truth of the following:

    Joe Biden

    Pennywise The Clown

    IT

    As far as 4 Star General slimey Mark Milley goes:

    General Mark Milley

    General Mark Dingleberry

    Wouldn’t it be funny if the Glorious Russian Military because of massive provocation thermonuclear burned the US Negro Military…..

  8. The Homosexual Pederast Tranny Freak US Military

    4 Star US Army General Mark Milley’s kind of Army=Pennywise the Clown=IT

    And this follows from The Homotopy Type Theory Equivalence Principle……Think about it…..

  9. @alwayswrite

    What are you trying to say here? It’s entirely unclear.

    The US is not a party to the UNCLOS treaty, so…

    Seems to me that the relevant treaty is the Montreux Convention which still governs transit of the Turkish Straits. If Russia were to sink a NATO warship, and conflict seemed possibly imminent, Turkey would be in its rights to close the Turkish Straits, making it almost impossible for Russia to support its forces in Syria. And given Erdogan’s mindset at the moment, he might very well do that.

    So I think it’s likely that if the USS Ross violates de facto Russian waters, the escalation is likely to be shots fired closer to the ship or something like that–unless the Ross starts returning fire.

    Putin wants to win the propaganda war without getting into a shooting war unless NATO really drives him to it.

    • Replies: @Tsar Nicholas
    , @Alden
  10. anon[289] • Disclaimer says:

    Will the Russians Sink a British Ship the Next Time Around?

    Nah.

    Go take a cold shower, Saker, and calm down.

    • Agree: Barbarossa, Rogue
    • Disagree: Pheasant
  11. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    BLACK [Sea]
    MISSILES
    MATTER

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
  12. Anonymous[607] • Disclaimer says:
    @alwayswrite

    alwayswrite: are you sincerely that ignorant and stupid, or are you just pretending?
    Read the Nat South article, maybe you will understand a little something.

  13. Blissex says:

    «As for the Brits, they are clearly suffering from phantom pains for their lost empire. […] Bojo is desperate to prove that he is a “new Churchill” which will teach the damn Russians (and Chinese!) to kowtow to the UK»

    Boris Johnson knows very well what reality is like, but England has a number of jingoistic simpletons who vote Conservative and will be reminded of the great English Empire victories in Crimea during the Crimean War and in southern China during the Opium wars, so the english government has sent some token ships to Crimea and southern China, “bear baiting” and “dragon baiting”, for electoral purposes.

    As to the Crimean War many people in England remember the song “The dogs of war” that was popular at that time:

    https://victorianweb.org/mt/musichall/macdermott1.html

    The dogs of war are loose, and the rugged Russian Bear,
    Full bent on blood and robbery, has crawl’d out of his lair;
    It seems a thrashing now and then, will never help to tame
    That brute, and so he’s out upon the “same old game.”

    The Lion did his best to find him some excuse
    To crawl back to his den again, all efforts were no use;
    He hunger’d for his victim, he’s pleased when blood is shed,
    But let us hope his crimes may all recoil on his own head.

    CHORUS:
    We don’t want to fight but by jingo if we do,
    We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men, and got the money too!
    We’ve fought the Bear before and while we’re Britons true
    The Russians shall not have Constantinople.

    It is part of the Boris Johnson approach to disregard that by reminding the russian and chinese public opinions of the past humiliations inflicted by England on their countries the russian and chinese public opinions will increase their support for Putin and Xi.

  14. TG says:

    Interesting thoughts, though of course the mass media is so corrupt and top-down scripted I doubt that any of us really know (or even, can know) what’s going on. As Matt Taibbi has said, alternative news sources can try to ‘read between the lines’ but they don’t have the resources to do full independent investigations.

    But I think you really nailed it at this: “western political elites are mostly composed of folks with very strong narcissistic tendencies combined with a total inability to learn from mistakes (both theirs and those of others). Needless to say, history does not inform these people either. Finally, since these folks can never admit a mistake, however minor or serious, they cannot change course; doubling down over and over is pretty much all they are capable of.”

    Amen. Our elites are so insulated from their mistakes, so oblivious to any feedback or consequence, that they are like spoiled children playing with toy soldiers, who don’t care how many they break because daddy will always buy them more. You mention how Libya was essentially demolished to no end, yet the architects of that policy – notably Hilary Clinton – continued to be treated like elder statesmen and treated with respect, and held up as a moral exemplar. And our elite bankers, they drive their institutions into bankruptcy, get bailed out by countless trillions of dollars of public funds, and then dare to lecture the rest of us that their taxes should be lower than those of working class people because they are ‘job creators.’ And so on.

    Where does it end? I have no clue. But I would humbly suggest that we should go back to applying anti-trust laws to the news organizations, break them up and divorce them from other industries. Let a member of the elite do something stupid/vile and then face mass opprobrium and humiliation – rather than the current corporate echo chamber of ritual hagiography – perhaps that’s where we should start. At least, worth a thought. Could it hurt?

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  15. What is the probability that..

    4 Star General Mark Milley

    and

    Three star Admiral Mike Mullins

    Both paid for Male Prostitutes

    In DuPont Circle

    that cater to US Army Generals and US Navy Admirals..

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  16. hum2 says:

    LOL, again Saker the Faker and the FUD agent.
    BTW, all the Schwachsinn Saker the Faker wrote in the past turned out to be wrong!!!

    With expats like him and Orlov, Russia does not need any more enemies.

    There will the the same game they play over and over again here.
    The West will poke and Russia will not take the bait.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  17. Reminds me of the opening sequence from “Charge of the Light Brigade”

    • Agree: GMC
  18. Leo Den says:
    @SteveRogers42

    Russia is an IMPEDIMENT to Apartheid Israhell’s design for the MidEast.

    Without Russia, ASSAD would be long gone and IRAN would have been bombed to oblivion, and Greater Israhell would have been fulfilled and ruling over the MidEast.

    In other words, Russophobia by Jewish-controlled politicians and in Jewish-controlled Western media is simply PAYBACK.

    It’s all JEWISH NEOCONS driving this.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/

  19. Phipps says:

    Gentile Americans need to make it clear to their Jewish masters and their Zionist, illegitimate mannequin in the White House that Jewish hostility to Russia over the fact that it supports Israel’s enemies (Syria and Iran) and is white and Christian must come to an end.

    • Troll: Kramer
  20. martin_2 says:

    I cannot understand why the UK should be on bad terms with Russia. It’s not as if they’re trying to spread communism and subvert our institutions like sixty years ago. We were on the same side in both World Wars. The only trouble we had with them was in the nineteenth century and that was, as the mafia bosses would say, just business. I think that a lot of it is due to the fact that Putin is unsympathetic to the globohomo agenda.

    • Agree: Rich
  21. The USS Ross appears to have arrived at Odessa without incident.

  22. Beckow says:

    Russia can sink anything in the Black See. Then what? Most likely response by the West would be to sink something Russian in their neighbourhood. Both sides could be destroying each others’ assets in an unbalanced tit-for-tat until they get tired of it. Or they go big and we are done. Maybe everyone should just mind their own business.

    Having said that, parading UK Navy in front of Crimea missile batteries is stupid. It is a military equivalent of hoisting a rainbow flag on US embassy. West seems to be run by 12-year olds, they doubt their own genders and display silly pre-teen mindlessness. Being mindless doesn’t mean that they are insane, it means they can’t locate their minds. As many have suspected, BoJo is simply a moron, one in a long line of morons. How does a democracy manage to elect one moron after another? Blair, Cameron,…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @TG
  23. anonymous[361] • Disclaimer says:

    alwayswrite is an ignoramus (e.g. 6.) What he types is inverse information. Here is the antidote, a guy who doesn’t talk out his ass, explaining UNCLOS.

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/06/warmongering-british-actions-in-the-black-sea/

    • Thanks: Tsar Nicholas
  24. Retired Three Star Admiral Mike Mullin’s US Navy

    The USS Liberace in glittering rhinestones enters the Black Sea with the Village People singing IN THE NAVY!!!

    THE US NAVY…A GLOBAL FORCE…FOR GLOBAL HOMOSEXUAL PEDERASTY!!!!

    See your US Navy Recruiter’s sphincter today…..

  25. Anonymous[607] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beckow

    “Most likely response by the West would be to sink something Russian in their neighbourhood

    with what? Outdated Tomahawks and Harpoons?
    Not a chance.
    in contrast, Russia has plenty of hypersonic weapons which even US generals admitted they cannot counter-act in any way.
    no, that won’t happen.

  26. Beckow says:

    with what? Outdated Tomahawks and Harpoons?

    Something makes me think that they would find a way, it is really not that hard. Anything that floats can sink…

    If all else fails, the Western homos could throw handkerchiefs at them and play some rap…I hear the Luxemburg premier has volunteered to lead the assault…

  27. @Oscar Peterson

    Russia has no choice but to sink a ship if a repetition of the events of June 22nd re-occur. If it fails to respond in the way it has threatened to do, then the crazies in the West will take even less notice of it than they do now.

  28. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    The US-UK seem to be awfully worried about Ukrainian territorial integrity. When did they start caring about Ukrainians? It’s not a pro-Ukrainian policy that they’re following, it’s an anti-Russian policy and everyone knows it. The citizens of the NATO countries don’t want to make any sacrifices for Ukraine because they just don’t care. It’s their so-called leaders dragging them into this mess. Were things to escalate out of hand and their servicemen start getting killed they’d bail out quickly. It’s just the US pulling the strings of NATO. They tried to provoke conflict between Ukraine and Russia earlier this year but that was avoided despite US deviousness. Hopefully the posturing will end and reality sets in. Crimea is not coming back, US-UK can’t make it do so and the Ukrainians must realize how the US is just trying to exploit them.

  29. I’d vote for blowing the bow off, sinking the tub, hopefully killing none or very few sailors, then rescue them. Any fakestream media presstitutes performing propaganda duties should be left in the water for their Ukronazi chums to pick up-or not.

  30. @Tsar Nicholas

    June 22, anniversary of Barbarossa. A coincidence?

    • Replies: @Tsar Nicholas
  31. Right_On says:

    The Black Sea Fleet has seven advanced diesel-electric attack submarines, arguably the most advanced on the planet.

    Dunno about that. The German Type 212 is diesel and also has an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system to stay submerged for up to three weeks without surfacing or snorkelling. It’s claimed to be virtually undetectable. Imagine what Karl Dönitz could have done with those . . .

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  32. TG says:
    @Beckow

    Interesting points.

    But on another note: electronic warfare systems are kind of like rock-paper-scissors. There is no perfection, only right now this works against that. The side that uses its electronic assets first, gives up a great advantage, because the other side can gather intelligence and work out countermeasures.

    I’m not saying that that’s what this is about – because that would assume that the western powers are intelligent – but – if parading a destroyer in front of Crimea caused the Russians to unmask their radar tracking systems, in the long run that could be a major advantage to the western empire.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  33. Russia can’t continue with its de-escalatory approach forever. They have wisely and responsibly decided not to react to these naked provocations by the West, but there is a certain point when even they can no longer look the other way. The West tried to create a war scare through its Ukrainian proxies (back in March and April), and now Britain is testing Russians patience with these PR stunts. The Elites don’t seem to understand that Putin is restraining himself in his responses to these provocations. They take Russias lack of action as a sign of weakness or indecision, when it is nothing of the sort. The West is misreading this situation to a dangerous extent.

    If other warships attempt to enter restricted waters around the Crimea, then Russia should indeed disable them. If they shoot back, then the warships should be sunk. No other nation would react differently. If Russian warships did what the HMS Defender did last week, the British would be justified in destroying them. So why should the converse not be justified?

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Sean
  34. gatobart says:

    “Russia got rid of all the Soviet periphery which was bleeding the Soviet Union dry.

    None of the newly created states has become a viable, successful state.

    The Empire spent many billions trying to prop up these newly independent states (ex USSR and eastern Europe) and tried to turn them into some anti-Russia showcase. They totally and comprehensively failed”

    I once read a book written by some ex-pal of Fidel Castro, a man who claims to have been member of the original group of university students who starting meeting in each other’s home and talking about revolution in Havana in the early fifties or so. This guy, according to his own tale, became after 1959 one of the chiefs of Cuban intelligence and one of the inner circle in power but he finally broke out from the regime and escaped to Europe because some disagreement. I think he was Juan Vives and the title of the book published in French is Les Maitres de Cuba (the then Soviet Union)

    And this man, Vives, claims in some part of his book that Cubans were pretty angry with the Soviet Union because they were having a LOT of food they produced themselves, wheat, meat, sugar, etc, confiscated so it would be sent to feed the smaller Warsaw Pact countries. Now, despite being a defector, this guy didn’t have much of a political motivation other than anti-Fidel as, even if he disliked Castro, to the point of demanding him to pay him back the 100 dollars he had loaned to him when at university and never got back, he also spoke highly of Che Guevara and of Salvador Allende.

    The point, there is at least this one more or less credible source declaring that the members of the Warsaw Pact were freeloading for the whole time they were under Soviet rule, so much so Moscow used to take the food out of other people’s mouth, on the other side of the world, to feed them.

    • Thanks: Antiwar7
  35. Pheasant says:

    There will never be a war between Europe and Russia because Russia supplies a majority of Europe’s natural gas used for cooking and heating.

    Yeah what the Royal Navy did was shitty but you know the Russian air forces invades British and Irish airspace all the time.

    I wonder what the plans left behind in the rubbish bin was all about…

    • Troll: gatobart
  36. Sean says:
    @TheJamesRocket

    In 2017 the Russian Navy’s showpiece aircraft carrier was hit with a British missile after venturing into the English Channel. What’s that? The Admiral Kuznetsov always belches smoke like that, and it actually went on fire in 2019? How embarrassing! Here is a Russian Tu 22M3 strategic bomber breaking in two​ while trying to land.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Troll: gatobart, Jazman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Badger Down
  37. Ktulu says:

    As a white man I hope the Russians disable and capture a NATO vessel with few casualties. Few or no deaths would make a war difficult to sell to the Europeans, but would be enough of a wake up call to perhaps change the course of central and western europe, something which it really needs right now.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  38. The Brits were clearly spoiling for an “event”, with the correspondents on board – not a potentially fatal one either – yet playing the incident down implies that they didn’t get the response they were after.

    Puzzling, no? What could they possibly expect other than a show of force?

    And as already commented, if the Russians really wanted them gone, they wouldn’t see it coming – torpedo or hypersonic.

    Perhaps they were trying to replicate the “Donald Cook” event?
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

  39. bayviking says:

    Crimea is Russia’s only year round service center for their nuclear armed subs. They will launch nuclear weapons before they give it up. But, US destabilization efforts are relentless. We are unable to leave anyone alone, to practice national sovereignty as they see fit, even when that path is shaped by free and fair elections.

    Look at the taxpayer money we have wasted in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria, accomplishing absolutely nothing. Consider the mess we have left in all those places and how quickly Russia took control of the situation in Syria, you should ask yourself why do our generals even get promoted? Is all this tragedy just to keep our military industrial complex fat and happy? We operate in air conditioned tents with the most advanced weapons on the planet and we lose, over and over again. Those losses are dwarfed by the misery we have dealt out on the innocent.

    Anybody who worries about the national debt needs to put a stop to this nonsense immediately. Our productivity is far more important than our national debt.

    When you consider the tens of millions of lives we have destroyed since WWII in search of global domination, we should be up on charges in the Hague.

    • Thanks: showmethereal
    • Replies: @GMC
    , @Badger Down
  40. Miro23 says:
    @Notsofast

    Putin and Russia don’t have to do anything other than what are already doing, react to these senseless provocations one by one, standing firm on each occasion as NATO and its poodles immediately back down. Russia and China only have to wait out the demise and collapse of this crumbling empire.

    Exactly what he crumbling Empire doesn’t want to happen. They want the HMS Defender to be sunk off Crimea and the HMS Queen Elizabeth to be sunk off Taiwan (pity about all those sailors).

    That would allow the MSM to whip up a patriotic fever against Russia and China, enable monster new money printing directed towards the MIC, introduce new Emergency legislation, reduce further citizens rights and force wavering countries like France and Germany back into line.

    The trick seems to be to generate war fever without the full scale war. The Russians know what’s going on, and are reacting in a measured way to these provocations, but it’s not so sure that the Chinese can do the same. The Chinese leadership don’t seem to be able to control a nationalist public to the extent that Putin can.

    • Agree: Sarah, Notsofast
  41. @SteveRogers42

    “Shocking lack of diversity on the bridge of that Russian warship. How do they expect to beat our stunning and brave forces?”

    Also, by not wearing masks, these Russian sailors are a true threat to mankind!!!!

    /sarc

  42. There is one more thing I think Putin could do: make a solemn speech and directly address the people of the West telling them the truth about what the western political leaders are doing.

    It’s pointless appealing to the people of the West. They make no decisions and are extremely solipsistic and insouciant. Unless they’re ready to rise up and throw off the yoke of their Zio-pedo elites, and it doesn’t look as if they will any time soon if ever. It’s far better creating an alternative counter-NATO with China and other willing countries and appealing to the people of those anti-Western nations. They should make it clear that an attack on Russia or China is an attack on both and then see how the military numbers and weaponry square up. It is the only way to preserve world peace considering NATO expansion and aggressiveness.

  43. Beckow says:
    @TG

    …if parading a destroyer in front of Crimea caused the Russians to unmask their radar tracking systems, in the long run that could be a major advantage to the western empire.

    There will be no long run. If anything happens, it will be so quick that the data collected will be useless.

    We all still don’t comprehend how the current complexity combined with mediocre minds create a perfect storm. I include myself in this general lack of understanding. It is not some fancy AI or deep plotting that are putting the world on edge – it is the accumulation of too many complex systems, institutions, technology, too much data, too many dependencies. If we make a fatal mistake, it will be quick.

    • Agree: iffen, Bert
  44. anon[696] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s pretty obvious what happened here. The Brits are trying to sabotage Biden’s very mild rapprochement with the Russians by causing trouble. If you’ll remember, they did the same thing after Trump came into office.

    • Agree: Servant of Gla'aki
  45. Just sink it next time.

    And no, it will not start world war III. Simply because Russia has 2000+ nukes. This is just cutting of the finger that poked the bear. Maybe the retards will remember next time they think they can safely poke a bear. This will in fact lower the chance of WWIII because the retards will be prevented from poking any bears or dragons.

  46. The English culture is a vindictive one.

  47. @Blissex

    Goddamn, the more you look at the history of these Jewgro-Saxons, the more repulsive it reveals itself.

    These subhumans deserve the rampaging paki rape gangs currently active on their monkey islands.

  48. @Blissex

    “The Russians shall not have Constantinople” was treachery to Christendom.

    • Replies: @frontier
  49. @War for Blair Mountain

    Zero possibility. They didn’t pay. They charged the male prostitutes to their Pentagon accounts.

  50. @martin_2

    It’s because he won’t let Jews rule Russia, just like the Tsar didn’t let Jews rule Russia. Jews consider a strong, Christian Russia to be a mortal threat to their domination of whitey because it sets a bad example.

  51. Ross23 says:

    The brits handed their empire over to the US because they were WASPs.

    Since then both the US and the brits have been slowly replacing WASPs and are now directly persecuting them so what’s the point.

    Maybe both are just schizo they don’t know what they are doing anymore and why.

    • Replies: @Rich
  52. Oh didn’t i just know someone would go off to Craig Murray,a criminal awaiting his prison time

    Murray isn’t an legal expert in UNCLOS, he’s a rather angry nasty bitter nationalist who constantly goes over to RT international to get his message out,he basically hates the British state especially the English,which is ironic when you consider he was born in England!

    His so called analyses wouldn’t stand up in a UNCLOS tribunal,he can always put his services forward to the Kremlin after he’s finished his prison sentence though,but judging by his last foray into a court of law I’d not put much money on Murray and his daft idea

    Someone else here basically says i should read the saker link to a certain ‘ Nat south’ who ever he is,who i also suspect is another armchair lawyer,as there’s no link to who this ‘ Nat South’ or what capacity he has as a legal expert in UNCLOS,maybe the saker can put some details up about ‘ Nat’

  53. @martin_2

    That’s correct. Man-on-man anal is the apex of “enlightened” Western civilization. Anyone who fails to support it or appreciate its beauty is considered evil and vile.

  54. Sean says:
    @TheJamesRocket

    Keep your hair on Igor, this is not some western grand strategy, just Great Britain’s mercantilist mobilizacija. The Ukraine gave Britain a £1 billion contract for building warships so the British Navy, which has more Admirals than ships , sent one of their precocious boats to annoy the Russians a bit but not much. Russia has military power but real wherewithal is granting access to markets where immense profits can be made. That is why Russia, which has nothing anyone wants, can with impunity be annoyed in a way that China can not even when their careless stupidity kills a million people with a lab leak. The COVID-19 pandemic was getting started when Alexander ‘Boris’ Johnson announced the Chinese were getting in on Britain’s 5G. Previous PMs had let the Chinese in the building of Britain’s next nuclear power stations. China is the exponential growth market that every country wants in on, so their culpable recklessness and risible cover up in Wuhan doesn’t matter. Russia would have been nuked for less.

  55. @Chris Moore

    As you would no doubt remember Britain was against the intial takeover of part of Palestine in 1948 so presumably that is not what you are referring to when you say “But they do recognize the Jewish annexation of Palestine”.

    That is plain nonsense unless you have some special meaning of “annexation” [or maybe “Palestine”] in mind. What do you mean and what evidence have you got for it?

  56. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    June 22, anniversary of Barbarossa. A coincidence?

    If it wasn’t deliberate, that proves the stupidity of the British government and its naval chiefs.

  57. Seraphim says:
    @RoatanBill

    A NATO ship is vulnerable to small-caliber naval artillery (30-mm from the Russian border patrol ship or even 76-mm), but that does not exclude the use of heavy artillery which can sink the whole Armanda all at once.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  58. gotmituns says:

    What are the Limeys doing with a warship in the Black Sea, that is the question? Non of this 19th-20th century gunboat “diplomacy” should be going on anymore. If the Russians do sink a Limey ship. it’s only what the Limeys deserve.

  59. Fear, especially existential fear, might well be the only thing which could break through the wall of silence and disinformation which the western media has been feeding the people for decades.

    REAL fear has been replaced by virus UND flying saucers fear, on WDS, menstruating participant even claimed they be a super secret weapon of BEAST of “democracies”.
    Humanity has demonstrated its resilience over eons und witnessed untold number of “exceptional THUGS”, and will continue to do so!

  60. Sarah says:

    sinking a British ship might well be the best solution.

    Not at all; that would be the worst.
    The Empire is hammering out a daily propaganda about a supposed Russian “threat”.
    All the Western media would rise up and call for war.

    , they might strike at the intruding vessel’s engines/props to disable it and, possibly, tow it.

    This would be the best solution.
    Tow it to a port, take good care of the crew and send it back to England and keep the boat.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  61. 22pp22 says:
    @Blissex

    If you think there is widespread support for war in Britain, you are a very silly and uniformed individual who should keep his opinions to himself. The Empire is ancient history to any Brit under the age of 90 and the younger generation have been inculcated with a sense of shame for their past.

    Very few people educated over the past thirty years, even the smart ones, have even heard of the Crimean War.

    The overwhelming majority of the population would like immigration to cease and for the country to mind its own business. That is especially true of conservatives. It is the Guardian readers, if anything, who wish to pursue a more interventionist policy.

    You clearly know nothing of Britain. Your ignorance is cringeworthy.

  62. GMC says:
    @bayviking

    Good post – if I might add- Crimea has shed more blood over it’s history than Moscow has. But Crimea has even more history , prior to it being Russian and this archeology is being excavated as we speak. Kyiv did little about it since most the monies targeted for Crimea was ripped off. This is why Russia has spent billions on the infrastructure and will continue to spend billions more, and continue to excavate and record the rich historia of the peninsula/island..
    Look at a map of the Black Sea , the Crimea is the jewel and everyone from the Greeks to the Romans – have lived there. Nato and the US want to make it one huge military base – Russia had a small base in Sevastopol, but is now forced to move more military in- unfortunately.
    The Autonomous Republic of Crimea’s vote to go back to Russia, was a Huge NWO/OWO No No No and must be punished and propagandized as a Russian take-over – a Russian invasion to annex another county’s possession or even worse. Just look at all the countries that have gotten scared shitless of this independent action. I can hardly wait to see how many parts of the USA and Europe get the drift, and do the same ” life saving” move.

    • Agree: Alfred
  63. Also

    Having said both of these things, I for once agree with the Faker that the best solution for Russia would have been to sink the Brutish tin can. I have been reading the Brutish propaganda online, and that of their Amerikastani colonial owners, and the failure of Russia to sink the Brutish ship is being taken as “proof” that Russia is weak and backed down.

    As for the so called documents dumped behind a bus stop, that’s too ridiculous to merit ten seconds of thought to debunk. Of course it was a deliberate leak from Raab’s Foreign Ministry to try and rein in Boorish Johnson and his clique of war criminals before it’s too late.

    • Thanks: GMC
    • LOL: Sarah, GomezAdddams
  64. @Sean

    In 2017 the Russian Navy’s showpiece aircraft carrier was hit with a British missile after venturing into the English Channel. What’s that? The Admiral Kuznetsov always belches smoke like that, and it actually went on fire in 2019? How embarrassing!

    What does this have to do with anything? The Russians don’t need aircraft carriers to sink hostile ships in the Black sea. They would just use air launched Kalibr or Khinzal missiles, or shore based Bastion missiles. With these weapons, the Black sea becomes a death trap for British (or American) warships.

    The Ukraine gave Britain a £1 billion contract for building warships so the British Navy, which has more Admirals than ships , sent one of their precocious boats to annoy the Russians a bit but not much.

    They should quit while they are ahead. The days when the Royal Navy ruled the seas are long gone. Reliving bygone days of imperial glory is all well and good until your warship get struck by a anti-ship missile. It would be unwise for Britain to repeat their publicity stunt in the Crimea.

    China is the exponential growth market that every country wants in on, so their culpable recklessness and risible cover up in Wuhan doesn’t matter. Russia would have been nuked for less.

    The only time the West could have initiated any kind of nuclear attack on Russia without suffering crippling damage from a retaliatory strike was in the 15 years or so following the collapse of the Soviet Union. After Putin arrived in office, he rapidly put Russia back on the world stage as a major power. By this point in time, Russia has surpassed America in the department of hypersonic missiles, and anti-ballistic missiles. They now have the power to fight a nuclear war with the West and win.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Spanky
  65. @Sean

    “Russia has nothing anyone wants.”

    Tell the Germans, who are willing to risk the wrath of their Amerikastani colonial overlords for Russian natural gas.

  66. I am not sure Russia will ever take the bait and shoot to kill. This can be interpreted as weakness or as consistent policy “if you see your enemy committing suicide, do not interfere ”

  67. “Will the Russians Sink a British Ship the Next Time Around?”

    I don’t think so…

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
  68. @Sean

    Stupid greed for quick profit is something that has ruined many empires & nations.

    For instance, there would have been not so many blacks & black problem in the US, had not planters been so greedy & short-sighted.

    • Agree: Skeptikal, RadicalCenter
  69. @Seraphim

    There are numerous ways to sink a surface vessel. Anyone dumb enough to be in a military version needs his head examined. They’ve been obsolete since water skimming missiles were invented.

    The days of projecting power with one of these floating coffins is long gone except if trying to pressure powers like Granada or Costa Rica.

    My quip was meant as a Russian test firing of their latest missile. It would be psychologically more effective than bombardment from shore since that would be expected. Whistling in from some unexpected direction at a speed that would miss it if someone blinked would send the NATO countries a message telling them how stupid they are.

  70. Z-man says:

    It’s so obvious and pathetic how Britain is even more controlled than America by the NEOCON cabal.
    In the past the Black Sea was practically taboo to American and their puppets (Britain) sailings. It was to Russia what the Gulf of Mexico is to the United States.
    These new incursions are stupid and only help to satisfy the blood lust of the globalist cabal, the Internationalist Jew.

  71. @Blissex

    “The Russians shall not have Constantinople.”

    Brits would rather have the Muslim Turks there… goes to show you how perfidious the little isle is!

    • Agree: Seraphim
    • Replies: @Z-man
  72. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    English men are cowards who allow their little English girls to be gang raped, sodomized, and sex trafficked by Mohammedans in every city in England.

    English men vote to have their country’s capital city be headed by a white-hating Paki Mohammedan, allow their little English girls to be sex slaves of Paki, Arab, and African Mohammedans, yet they are so eager to fellate Globohomo and antagonize Russia over its historical territory.

    [MORE]


    Sex-trading little English girls: Abdirashid Abdulahi, Mohamed Dahir, Liban Abdi, Jusef Abdirizak, Mohamed Jumale, Abdulahi Aden, Arafat Ahmed Osman and Idleh Osman


    English men won’t even protect their little English girls but they’ll go to war for the AngloZionist Globohomo Empire

  73. Schuetze says:

    “The Brits, being the superior race which only they think they are, declared that they only changed course because a slower Russian vessel was ahead of them and they decided to pass it from the open waters side. In fact, the Brits are so superior to the mongoloid Russian hordes and their dictator that they refused to even reply to the Russian coast guard vessel when it threatened to open fire if the Brits did not change course.”

    Saker plays the “racist” card on behalf of the Russian Red Rapist army. Some things never change, and Russians will NEVER be able to get past their inferiority complex.

    “EVEN if the UK does not recognize the Russian “annexation” of Crimea (and, along with that, the democratic will of the people of Crimea), they should still recognize the indisputable fact that Russia is the “occupying power” which, therefore, has the legal right to deny any ship “innocent passage””

    The UK should simply recognize that the Russian empire still exists today, and that in the eyes of the Russian empire, Might Makes Right. Russia did not become this gigantic blob of macho Slavic oppression by being invited in by native slavs. The Red Russian Rapist Army operates in the same fashion that it has for centuries. Invasion, Rape, Murder, Ethnic Cleansing, and Genocide. They are as Russian as Vodka. The UK should just call a slav bully a slav bully and let all countries unlucky enough to border on Russian deal with the rapist thug. Germany had to accept the rape, plunder and theft of Prussia, so shall Ukraine have to deal with Crimea too.

    “Yes, I know, Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi tried to appeal to the people of the West and, in both cases, the democratic and free western media completely obfuscated these admittedly naive and clumsy attempts. ”

    Of course Saker ignores the fact that most famously of all, Hitler tried that same appeal. Of course during that war Saker’s idol, “Uncle” Joe Stalin, was hanging by a thread and dependent on the the UK bankrupting itself to save the Russian Rapists from the only honorable parties to that conflict, Germany, Finland, Hungary and Romania.

    • LOL: frontier
    • Troll: Jazman
  74. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    A NATO ship would make an excellent target for one of Russia’s hypersonic missiles. They could launch from a thousand miles away and scream in like out of nowhere.

    Exactly, now you see it…now you don’t.

  75. MarkNiet says:

    This is the legacy left by Churchill. The British deserve it. They chose the wrong ally 80 years ago. Hitler wanted British friendship; Stalin wanted Europe.

  76. padre says:

    I don’t think Russia would risk anything by sinking it! British are just bullies, and we all know how bullies react, when confronted, they just move on to bully someone else!

  77. Max Payne says:

    If Russia really wanted to buy time it should have crippled that vessel.

    No escalation will occur:

    1. UK government will blame their own captain who is probably a meat-eating, homosexual-hating old white guy who can be accused of being a secret Nazi, having ancestors who owned slaves, or be #metoo’d (or all three, why not).

    2. An ‘inquiry’ into the navy will be launched which will take 4 to 6 to 11 years, creating do-nothing contract government jobs.

    3. The Western media will spin it as a racist military white patriarch (who supported Brexit and Trump) stereotypically acting belligerent, as most genocidal old white racists tend to do.

    4. No one will even ask or care if Russia fired upon a Royal Navy vessel as the matter has shifted away from military vulnerability to racism (which means Nazis)

    5. How was the “Greatest Navy in the World” bested by vodka-swilling Russia? Simple. Senile old white guy. How is that fixed? Recruiting more diverse minorities who identify as gender-neutral.

    6. Repeat later or until Russian government has major internal instability (probably when Putin passes away).

    • Agree: Fred777
  78. Anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @SteveRogers42

    Dont underestimate our military power.

    If you were in the Russian military would you want to face a bunch of screaming weirdos, freaks, fags, trannies, nigger shemales and ANTIFA louts dressed in pink and camoflaged with blond wigs, weaves and braids ? How about an assault regiment of recruits half way through their sex change operations.

    The Russians will be overcome by twerking LGBTQ and queers rocking red string bikinis. Vlad, you have been warned !

    • Replies: @USA1943
  79. @Sarah

    Tow it to a port, take good care of the crew and send it back to England and keep the boat.

    Agreed.
    The best option.
    IIRC the Brits tried this same stunt with Iran, their sailors were captured and are on vdo apologising to Iran with one (female) crew-member condemning her own govt.

    Further, see vdo below for Brit warship Foxtrot 236 dictating to Iran re Stena Impero … this resulted in humiliation for them as Iran impounded (and subsequently released without harm/loss of life) that ship in yet another Anglozio provocation.

    Although believing disable/tow in is the best policy in any repeat provocation, sometime I also believe that nuking the Square Mile is the only really effective measure.
    Sailors are just cannon fodder.
    Cut off the head of the snake.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Sarah
  80. Rich says:
    @Ross23

    The Brits lost their empire because they made a pointless war guarantee to the Polish colonels. WW2 finally exposed their weaknesses and afterwards left them poor and tired, unable and unwilling to defend most of their far off ventures. I’m not sure they’re even a viable nation anymore, decent sized population, but not known for their manufacturing prowess and more of a small time NYC economy, traders and investors. Best hope for the British is if our owners go full Orwell and start Oceana up. Or they reduce their population to a more sustainable pre-industrial one. Covid 21X anyone?

  81. MLK says:

    I’ll keep it short and sweet since no one pays attention anyway.

    If you haven’t figured out that the last three decades since the collapse of the Soviet Union and it’s Warsaw Pact have been a Sad Story for the US then you never will.

    To add insult to injury, it was openly telegraphed in the label — Unipolar Moment. In geopolitics, a “moment” signals a world-historical screw-up in record time.

    I shouldn’t have to say it, much less belabor it over and over again, any reasonably intelligent middle schooler knows (or at least used to until Obama/CCP got to really destroying our education system) that geopolitical strategy 101 for the US is keeping the Eurasian powers (Russia; China; Germany) from allying and integrating.

    That’s isn’t the half of it as the ruling and governing classes in the West are tired and ready for CCP China to dominate the globe.

    I forecasted before “Biden,” the American “Yeltsin,” was installed that the geopolitical payoffs would come fast and furious. “Biden” is merely the tip of the iceberg in terms of CCP China’s comprehensive infiltration and compromise of the USG. Russia/Putin understands its best play is quietly banking Nord Stream 2 and dominance in Syria, while continuing to run cover/deflection for China, who compensates Russia/Putin for its masterful effort.

    Iran is a bumptious ally that, as we’ve seen, just refuses to get with the long-term program. It’s hellbent to publicly humiliate the US just as it insisted the Obama administration agree to in the original JCPOA.

    Everyone knows “Biden” belongs to CCP China and God knows who else. It’s impossible to overstate how dangerous that is globally. Losts of bad stuff will happen with the US sovereign in its current compromised condition.

    You should think of the participants in operation Get Rid Of Trump as a coalition of the willing and unwilling. Every foreign power saw that the anti-Trump alignment wasn’t going to give way like it was forced to in 2016. China and Iran, for reasons I shouldn’t have to explain, wholly committed and carried out key roles in the effort. Others pretty much kept their heads down and mouths shut.

    It hasn’t gone according to plan. These foreign powers fear that they’re the dog that finally caught the mail truck.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @KA
  82. Anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Should Russia have sunk the ship ? Should it sink the ship if there is a future such adventure ?

    Putin is a subtle leader and I believe he will want to max the propaganda from such an event.

    The Russian approach seems much better. In instance one they got chased away. If there is a second such adventure I think the Russian’s restrained reaction is better. Cripple the ship, tow it and all the crew members to Crimea and fling them in prison, then after several months of humiliation have Britain send a ship to tow the hulk away.

    Revenge should be long and drawn out so pain is felt !

  83. Z-man says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    They are, more disgustingly, the useful tool (idiot) of The Cabal.

    Brits would rather have the Muslim Turks there… goes to show you how perfidious the little isle is!

    But ‘Karma’ is a fickle bitch my friend. Britain is infested with diversity and grooming gangs of Muslims. It wont last too long without a revolution from real Englishmen. But the way things are going it doesn’t seem that the needed revolt will happen there.

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  84. @Sean

    BTW, when did the Brutish dare to fire a missile at the Russian navy, let alone hit the Kuznetsov? Got a link to prove your assertion?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
  85. Schuetze says:
    @Blissex

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/2015/02/18/gallipoli-2-promises-promises/

    “In 1908, however, the Russians were duped and drawn in with an astonishing, but empty, promise. Britain would no longer object to Russia seising Constantinople, capital city of the Ottoman Empire and the ‘Holy Grail’ of Russian foreign policy. [3] The French had also given clear assurances in 1908 that they would support Russian policy in the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles. [4] From the time of Catherine the Great, Russia’s obsession with a warm water port on the Black Sea with unrestricted year-round access to the Mediterranean, was predicated on seizing Constantinople. We are asked to believe that Russia went to war in support of Serbia, but the evidence shows no genuine Russian concern for the Serbs. That was an excuse. In truth, they harboured a ‘widespread obsession, bordering on panic’ about Constantinople and the Straits.”

    The Tsar, and Russia, had the Archduke assassinated in order to get Constantinople. and control of the straights. Thats right, Russia started both world wars, and if they have their way they will start the third. On the eve of WWII, Stalin was also demanding control of the Straights as a price for peace with Germany. Russia has always been obsessed with the straights, and this is one of the reasons they are so obsessed with Crimea.

    I am not trying to stand up for England here. The UK has been a jewish colony ever since Cromwell. But lets face it here, Russia is no better. They still worship Stalin and they still live in a fantasy world.

  86. Anonymous[361] • Disclaimer says:

    I hope all those immigrants they heap praise on constantly are going to step up if something breaks out because no white hetro male is remotely interested in defending Briton. I’m sure the same goes for the rest of the west for that matter..

  87. “If Russia wanted to invade the UK, I believe that most Brits would be willing to risk it all to defend their motherland.”

    When stories about this are planted in the Daily Mail, which has started featuring Edward Lucas and the Guardian’s anti-Russia crew, the most popular comments are to the effect of:

    “Britain is being invaded every day. Why is the Navy in the Black Sea when it should be turning boats back in the Channel?”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9718663/EDWARD-LUCAS-paying-price-years-blind-complacency.html#comments

  88. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Duck and duck dynasty never have to declare to be one .They cackle like one, walk ,and dress like one . Britain doesn’t have to use the tongue .They used their arms to get the land annexed .to the diaspora feeding the mouths of Llyod Balfour Churchill ,Truman – the tip of the iceberg fed by the same diaspora .

    ( Didn’t we observe that Britain prey on the week and turn like a wounded boastful pariah when someone challenges instead of believing or tolerating British shit ?)

    Evidences? Go and read man , how many times people have to find the book for you ?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  89. The real question is, as I see it, was Boris Johnson acting on his own initiative as Prime Minister or was he obeying someone else’s orders?

    Obviously, the West wants Russia to fire the first shot. That’s what provocations are about.

  90. @TG

    Andrei Martyanov knows what’s what. Find him.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  91. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @MLK

    “Iran is a bumptious ally that, as we’ve seen, just refuses to get with the long-term program. It’s hellbent to publicly humiliate the US just as it insisted the Obama administration agree to in the original JCPOA.”–
    No you are wrong . I wished you were correct . Iran did try like Saddam in 2002 . Iran agreed to all sorts of demands only to be told to get lost . Iraq did same only to be told “we would meet in Baghdad”.

    The best truly patriot with vision doesn’t rise to the top and when rises doesn’t;t stay there either too long or long enough to chart out a course that fits the nation’s long term requirements and strategic goals. \The Jewish diaspora sitting on the face of the USA prevented the reconciliation .

    Can we imagine what life would have been for Americans today if we agreed to safe exit of Saddam with few billions in his pocket ? Can we imagine what life would have been if we agreed to to Saddam’s 2002 plan of election and socio economic changes ?

    Iran’s agreeing to Trump’s or Biden’s demands today would be interpreted as “coercion working” and more needed. You know who would promote and spread those lies .

  92. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    The WASP Empire (British and American) has been mobbed up with elite “Jews” and their Zionist psychodrama for a long time, and partnering with them to sacrifice their own people for Globalist filthy lucre:

    [MORE]

    THE ZIONIST JEW CHAIM WEITZMAN was a Russian born chemist who moved to England in 1904. By 1915, Weitzman had developed a chemical process of producing acetone from maize. Acetone was a vital ingredient in production of artillery shells which Britain and her allies had a short supply of in the beginning of World War I.

    It was during this period that Weitzman, through the mediation of Walter Rothschild, met Sir Arthur James Balfour, the First Lord of the Admiralty, and David Lloyd George, Britain’s Minister of Munitions.

    Both of these political figures were under the influence of the Rothschild banking dynasty, of which the Zionist Jew, Walter Rothschild, was the head. It did not hurt Weitzman’s goals when in 1916 Lloyd George became the British Prime Minister and Arthur Balfour the Foreign Secretary.

    It was through this connection that the Balfour Declaration granted “a Jewish homeland within Palestine.” The Balfour Declaration was officially written to Walter Rothschild in 1919. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain’s promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon for getting the United States into the war.

    During this time period in America, President Woodrow Wilson was campaigning for his re-election in 1916 on his popular campaign slogan, “He Kept Us out of War.” But on April 2, 1917, President Wilson addressed both houses of Congress and pleaded with them to declare war against Germany.

    The article goes on to discuss how Wilson was blackmailed by Jews.
    https://www.realjewnews.com/?p=189

    So corrupt, degenerate WASP “elites” have been infiltrated by corrupt, degenerate Jews for ages, and have sacrificed millions of their “subjects” for money and power, or to save face from degenerate Jew extortionists.

    The criminal “Jews” are nothing but a murderous, Zion-centered racket, and the degraded US WASP elite (now Multicult elite) has become nothing but junior partners to an international Zionist “Jewish” (Talmudist) crime gang.

  93. Mike Tre says:

    Muh Saker never got over the ending from The Hunt for Red October. In his mind, the good guys lost, and he has been bitter ever since. If you understand that, then all of his Russia/USA wargaming/dick measuring makes a lot more sense.

    I’m guessing that 95% of US citizens (like myself) and 95% of Russian citizens have no desire for war of any kind with the other side. In reality, the US and Russia are not, and have never been, natural enemies. The conflict is a fabrication of the jewish neo-con neo-lib cabal, as they attempt to bring the entire world under the foreskin stitched yarmulka of globo-homo.

    • Agree: GMC
  94. Sean says:
    @TheJamesRocket

    Britain is a highly advanced country country that defeated Germany in world war one by naval blockade. Professor Phillips Payson O’Brien convincingly shows in his How the War Was Won: Air-Sea Power and Allied Victory in World War II (2015) the real battlefield that dwarfed the irrelevant battles like Kursk and Stalingrad, in which Germany had tiny losses of armaments relative to their production, was fought by planes and ships. Primitive Russia was the only combatant that was not two thirds producing planes and ships. Britain out produced Germany in planes and was also technologically more advanced because of its radar. Britain also invented antibiotics.

    The Germans had to pour effort into air defence because of British heavy bombers, which could carry far greater loads that any American plane. Most of the deaths and destruction Germany suffered from the air was the British and the RAF Bomber Command crews suffered 50% killed showing the bravery of high quality fighting men. Russia had a virtual walkover against a German army starved of firepower and mobility.

    The incompetence of the Soviet army was a terrible humiliation for Stalin, which is why as long as he was alive the Soviets said their WW2 losses were seven million rather that three times that as Khrushchev admitted true figure may have actually approached 30 million, due to the Soviet army marching their own civilians through minefields at gunpoint ECT). Mosier in his Deathride: Hitler vs. Stalin—the Eastern Front that Stalin found the USSR’s human resources finite and he came so close to exhausting them it is clear Russia would have lost without Germany directing the bulk of its embargoed resources to the air and sea war against the technologically superior western powers. There is a book called How the Scots Invented the Modern World. Russia has been backward for half a millennium, the hillbillies of the white race, who managed to be defeated by Japan in 1905, at sea, eh? Russians strategists are cognizant of OBrian’s thesis, but Russia cannot even make a single aircraft carrier that works. Happiest with Russia getting a full size carrier were the American navy, who were ecstatic. Russia was going to pay €1.37 billion to France for a helicopter carrier.

    Note the type of plane. Russia makes nothing anyone wants, and the “missions’ their men in uniform are always up for involve not novchuk or polonium but alcoholic poisoning. The Russians once had genuine surprises; now scream about hypersonics and wunderwaffen because they are scared. American submarine-launched missile having have already been tested with a combination of depressed trajectory and maneuverable warhead, meaning they get zero warning that an attack is underway. American SLBMs can catch the Russians before they get off, and disarm that country. So they better not get any funny ideas, otherwise they might regret it.

    • Agree: Johnny Rico
    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @barr
    , @Whitewolf
    , @FB
  95. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    My guess is that you can find proof on any flat Earth site, or something similarly reputable

  96. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    When…

    … Will the Man on the Street finally understand the Jewish Problem / Jewish Question?

    … Will any of the myriad of Traitor Gentiles [shabbos goyim] be Named & Shamed?

    … Will Putin finally realize that he is the focal point of the Jew War on Mankind?

    It’s time.

    Time to reveal the 9/11 Truths.

    Time to Name the Jew, and their Gentile Collaborators.

    Time to become True Christians, like Christ, Telling the Truth to their Noses.

    • Agree: CSFurious
    • Troll: Corvinus
  97. Rurik says:
    @Schuetze

    Germany had to accept the rape, plunder and theft of Prussia, so shall Ukraine have to deal with Crimea too.

    You just can’t let go of your WWII butt-hurt.

    Memo to Schuetze:

    Russia today is the antithesis of (((Globohomo)))

    The Western world’s last bastion of sanity.

    Vlad Putin saved Russia from the fiend, just as he saved Syria and is saving others, if as nothing more than simply an example to the world of how to stay sane, during a plandemic of Globohomo degeneracy and zio-hegemony.

    Unlike Perfidious, whose politicians (rather than little British school girls) I sincerely wish were being sodomized by orcs, except that they’d no doubt like that.

    During WWII Russia and Perfidious were (((perfectly aligned))).

    But that is no longer the case, and only a fool would continue to cling to generations old grievances once the perpetrators were rotting in their graves, and the nations in question were operating on completely, if not diametrically opposite metrics.

    If by some miracle, Perfidious were to rally behind a patriot and England-first savior, who would send the orcs home pronto, and restore dignity and hope to the English people, then the time for heaping disgust upon England would finally, at long last come to an end.

    Just as it has for Russia, who’s the sane man on the world’s stage today. As Germany continues to wallow in it’s ((imposed)) guilt.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Schuetze
  98. KA says:
    @MLK

    You truly want to believe that USA is still a great and honest nation who can be trusted ..
    There is a general desire on the part of many -Pleas , please America! Do something good so we can support your other shit , do something that proves others countries are at fault so that we could support you .
    America doesn’t betray its faithfuls .It propagandizes , that when exposed ,usually after few months and stinks to high heaven ,it again prepares for next round of brain molestation .

  99. Spanky says:
    @TheJamesRocket

    They [Russia] now have the power to fight a nuclear war with the West and win. — TheJamesRocket

    No one wins a nuclear war…

    They may survive it, perhaps, but a “win” would be nothing more than a Pyrrhic victory. Putin knows this and, considering the number of neocons and neoliberals warmongers whom apparently believe the U.S. can “win” a nuclear exchange, is apparently doing his best to avoid this outcome.

  100. @Jim Christian

    Martyanov is i believe,from what little we know about him,ex Soviet Coast Guard,which is interesting because the old Soviet coast guard was actually part of the KGB just as the current Russian federation coast guard is part of the FSB, certainly a far cry from Britain’s coast guard who are basically jolly chaps who rescue people in trouble of the coast

    Basically Martyanov is at best just another kremlin shill who’s found a little niche about invincible hypersonic wizbangs,or perhaps he’s a deep sleeper agent still under Kremlin orders,wink wink😜

    Whatever he’s notoriously hysterical about his hypersonic wizbang stuff,plus he does like a bit of colourful language in his so called ‘ analysis ‘ which always leaves me feeling suspect about someone who claims some sort of intellectual high ground,which he constantly does,bombastic doesn’t really do justice,but whatever

    I’d rate him a big fat zero for reliability when it comes to Russia and its capabilities,to biased,to pro Putin,to hysterical,he should basically go and live in Russia

  101. Anon[351] • Disclaimer says:

    “The Brits deny it”

    Could you put ”the British government denies it”? I’m British and I despair of this idiocy.

  102. Declaring that the Black Sea is “Russian lake” is an absurd in the light of the fact that it is teaming with NATO vessels and that every single littoral state sees Russia as an enemy. As for the question “would the Kremlin really risk WWIII by sinking a British Navy Ship” it is clear that the Russian cowards won’t do it because they know very well what will follow. They have nowhere to go. The treasonous Russian seed, the promiscuous harlot of the east, is all alone. Not very long ago they proudly turned their backs on their friends, allies and brothers and betrayed them exactly to the Brits , US, and NATO as well as to their local enemies. Now, the poor and leaky oligarchical paradise called Russia is breaking at the seams. Without need for war the West would do good to follow what I keep suggesting for a while: recognize political independence of some or all Russian federal units like Chechnya and Dagestan and the house will fall of itself. No future for the traitors who are always way bellow the worst enemy!
    https://www.dw.com/en/ex-east-germany-leader-erich-honeckers-arrest-25-years-on/a-39886159
    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/russia-dismantle.htm
    http://www.cuba.cu/gobierno/documentos/2001/ing/n171001i.html
    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.danas.rs%2Fpolitika%2Fuklanjanje-milosevica-podrzao-i-vladimir-putin%2F
    https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en-US&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=bs&tl=en&u=https://www.vreme.com/cms/view.php?id=1731562
    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&u=https%3A%2F%2Finformer.rs%2Fsvet%2Fvesti%2F379575%2Fsokantno-otkrice-rusi-finansirali-odvajanje-crne-gore-srbije-tajkun-deripaska-unajmio-trampovog-coveka-manaforta-putin-znao-sve
    https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2003/07-july/e0702a.htm
    https://english.pravda.ru/world/144056-bolivia/
    https://dqgrqg6lvoxwgt35udml4n7pku--colonelcassad-livejournal-com.translate.goog/6641660.html

  103. “Will the Russians Sink a British Ship the Next Time Around?”
    Ramming at an acute angle. Then to tow the British ship to Sevastopol.

  104. Corvinus says:

    “Will the Russians Sink a British Ship the Next Time Around?“

    Lol, no. The Russians are posturing. They don’t want the potential for nuclear war, at worst, and worldwide sanctions, at best.

    • Replies: @Height_776
    , @haha
    , @EugeneGur
  105. @anon

    If it’s as unimportant to you as your willingness to toss together a barely literate jumble suggests why bother wasting readers’ time?

    • Replies: @anon
  106. @Chris Moore

    Why bother with a long irrelevant answer. You have had to go back to 1917 and the Balfour Declaration to try and support your false assertion that the British recognise Jews’ “annexation of Palestine” .
    The Balfour Declaration was carefully worďed to avoid support for conquest or annexation. And the UK effectually voted against the creation of Israel in 1948 when that meant taking Palestinian land, even though legal titles were lacking.

  107. @Corvinus

    The aggressor should know that retribution is inevitable, anyway it will be destroyed. We, as a victim of aggression, we will go to Heaven as martyrs, and they will simply die, because they will not even have time to repent.
    Putin added: “We are not afraid of anything at all, — a country with such a big territory, with such a defense system, with such a population, ready to defend its independence, its sovereignty. Not in every country there is such a predisposition of citizens to give their lives for the Motherland as we have.”
    sanctions… LOL

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  108. @Schuetze

    That’s both dopey and wrong. Which British men? Do you hasten to New York’s Central Park to protect white female students from black gangs at night? Do you know anything about Britain and its class and regional differences? I don’t know about Sadiq Khan (he’s the mayor isn’t he?) hating whites but one thing is sure, it isn’t the white men you call cowards who vote him into office. There is a reason why some refer to Lononistan.

  109. bob7757 says:

    The American people and government are in terrible need of losing a major war. They need to be humbled. Just look at the arrogance they display on twitter encouraging the military to F with Russia. Incredibly arrogant. In bad need of a savage beatdown as a nation. There is no substitute I’m afraid.

    • Agree: Robin Hood
  110. Oh how ironic that someone has found that incident,i think I’ve already mentioned it,but its the diplomacy which followed this incident between America and the Soviet Union which ultimately led to both side agreeing to follow the UN Law Of Sea principles,in other words innocent passage!

    Both sides even signed an agreement called,

    ‘The Uniform Interpretation of Rules of International Law Governing Innocent Passage’

    Thats basically the UNCLOS law they agreed to

    The agreement was signed by James Baker,for America and Eduard Shevardnadza for the Soviet Union

    So you see folks the Russians are basically breaking their own agreement,they have no honour,its interesting because the above mentioned agreement absolutely includes warships,contrary to what some folks think

    In other words Russian action is illegal,and all they can do is spin the whole thing as propaganda,so too does the saker,getting as he does into his ‘ Boys Own’ zero sum nonsense about sinking ships

    What he should actually do is write about Russian none compliance with international law and their own agreement allowing passage of ships

    They should also dismantle that stupid bridge over the Kerch strait as its also an illegal action basically a physical structure limiting the size of vessels that can now enter the Azov sea

    All Russian activities are illegal as far as their involvement in Crimea are concerned,but then Putin has created a regime built upon criminals and their behaviour

    • Replies: @GMC
  111. Chris Moore says: • Website

    You have had to go back to 1917 and the Balfour Declaration to try and support your false assertion that the British recognise Jews’ “annexation of Palestine” .

    You either don’t understand how ((Jews)) operate, or you do, and operate exactly like them.

    The elite ((Jews)) corrupted a very narrow segment of British society and then implicated the entirety of Britain in Zionism with the Balfour Declaration. British society never corrected the ((Jews)) or their corruption, and is thus culpable for all of the Zionist corruption since.

    Similarly, the ((Jews)) implicated LBJ and the Dem establishment in treason against the US with the attack on the USS Liberty, and later Bush and the Republican establishment with the 9/11 inside job. American society never corrected the ((Jews)) or Zionist corruption and treachery, and is thus culpable for all of the Zionist corruption and treachery since.

    Had the elites of the WASP empires taken a stand against Zionism/((Jewish)) corruption, they might have salvaged themselves. But they lacked the character and integrity and even basic fidelity to their people, because they had been degraded by ((Jews)) to the point that they felt more loyalty to their own bank accounts and careers and power ambitions than to the people they came from and the nation they purported to represent.

    They’d been “kiked,” and they now were and are kikes.

  112. Schuetze says:
    @Rurik

    So do you accuse the Palestinians of “can’t let go of your WWII butt-hurt.” too?

    Of course it was Russia who first legitimized the theft of Palestine, and it was those same Russians who waited until after Hiroshima to declare war against Japan whom they had had a non-aggression pact with until that historic nuclear Judaic event. Imperial Russia is still occupying Sakhalin island to this day. Of course Russia had started WWII by instigating the signing of a non-aggression pact with NSDAP Germany and then stabbed Poland in the back too in 1939 after Germany had done the dirty deed. At the end of WWII Russia purged, raped and murdered all Germans from Prussia as well. Of course prior to WWII the great Russian hero Stalin had murdered, raped and ethnically cleansed all Tatars and Cossacks from Ukraine and Crimea, the root of most of this enmity concerning Crimea to this day.

    So you want to just ignore the fact the Putin is a crypto-jew, a Kabbalist, a Chabad Lubbowitz patsy, ignore that Putin is playing along with the plandemic, ignore that Putin never dares cross Israel or the Rothschilds, and ignore that Russia still has a Rothschild controlled central bank, and pretend that because Putin pretends to fight against globohomo that he is a hero to the entire planet and that his constant macho displays of planet destroying nuclear weapons is justified. Good on ya.

    • Agree: W
    • Replies: @Rurik
  113. CSFurious says:

    Russia can just wait while the U.S. and Britain destroy themselves with “Diversity”.

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
  114. AndrewR says:
    @SteveRogers42

    Disabled black trannies are our greatest strength

  115. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Go to library and find the books . Do you need the list again ?

    It seems that you never heard the adage: walk like a duck ,looks like duck and sound like a duck then it is probably a duck?

    British established Israel without ever being explicit at all.

    • Replies: @anon
  116. haha says:
    @Corvinus

    If you are so sure why don’t you take a ride on the next ship planning to violate Russian waters? You can stand on deck and enjoy the spectacle of “Russian posturing”.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  117. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Why bother answering ?

    He thinks Britain opposed the creation of Israel in 1948 !!! WTF. It abstained while Israeli agents put pressures on France Philippines Liberia Cuba Greece ,bribed them and threatened to hurt Indian envoys bodily in case India decided not to vote .India did not cave in like Philippines France Liberia or Greece.

  118. Alfred says:
    @Sean

    Britain is a highly advanced country country that defeated Germany in world war one by naval blockade.

    Nonsense. The American public supported the Germans. The British and French were losing – there never was any fighting on German soil – Germany was much bigger at the time.

    The Jews went to the British and told them “give us Palestine and we will make America enter the war on your side”. The British agreed. The entry of the USA tipped the scale. The British gave the Jews the Balfour Declaration a little later.

    Let’s not forget that the German army was not defeated. They occupied vast areas of east Europe and Imperial Russia. The German soldiers marched home with their weapons.

    The real defeat of the Germans was at the Treaty of Versailles. But that is another story that also involves the Jews and the Americans.

    • Thanks: GMC
  119. Corvinus says:
    @Height_776

    “The aggressor should know that retribution is inevitable, anyway it will be destroyed. We, as a victim of aggression, we will go to Heaven as martyrs, and they will simply die, because they will not even have time to repent.”

    All words on your part. Do something about it in order for u.s. to take you seriously.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  120. Corvinus says:
    @haha

    “If you are so sure why don’t you take a ride on the next ship planning to violate Russian waters? You can stand on deck and enjoy the spectacle of “Russian posturing”.:

    You know deep down that Putin is a blowhard. He’s not about to incite an international incident.

    • Replies: @mike99588
  121. GMC says:
    @alwayswrite

    Come here and say that ! lol Are you fuckin stupid ? There are no more rules after the Soviets gave back East Germany and the Nato fuckers moved East. None ! If Russia spares your Boat once – you are fuckin lucky.
    But Russia is looking at a bunch of Retards and Morons that run the West , and that isn’t worth putting their country thru another war – yet.
    And that bridge ! It’s a really nice 4 laner , well built bridge – that has a really nice train set up – independently , next to the 4 laner. You blow it up – you will be severely beatin.
    This message – has been brought to you by a Crimean Resident who is tired of the BS that the rest of the world , has to offer.

  122. This is not the UK but the USA who did this to purposely provoke Russia into sinking a British ship. The USA wants war with Russia over Crimea but it wants to paint Russia as the bad guy in any conflict. Had Russia hit the UK ship then you can bet that the western media would spin the truth in order to paint Russia as a ruthless aggressor who needs to be stopped instead of someone who is just defending their own territory from outside aggression. The West is the true warmonger here, not Russia.

    http://[email protected]

  123. I’m not sure who will go down in history as the greatest civilization to collapse under the weight of its own making, the Roman Empire, the British Empire, the American Empire, the Atlantean civilization, or the Sumerian empire ruled by celestial Anunnaki overlords that will return in 2022.
    There is a pattern that pervades before the ash heaps are relegated to the dustbins of history. Guardians who have ruled over us for the last few thousand years have failed humanity, their punishment will be total annihilation.

    This comment Copyrighted and Protected by Word God. No Part May Be Used Without Severe Harassment From Homo Retardus aka ‘ Bombercommand’.

    • LOL: Bombercommand
  124. @anon

    But that is precisely how wars start… When people take things for granted or underestimate how serious someone takes things.

    • Agree: By-tor
  125. @Commentator Mike

    It’s pointless appealing to the people of the West. They make no decisions and are extremely solipsistic and insouciant. Unless they’re ready to rise up and throw off the yoke of their Zio-pedo elites, and it doesn’t look as if they will any time soon if ever.

    Hitler learned that the hard way.

    On 8 April 1940 a British, French and Polish expeditionary force of 38,000 soldiers invaded Norway in an attempt to bottle up National Socialist Germany. The Germans counter-invaded, scored a quick victory, and let all the Allied troops peacefully withdraw from Norway. This was a peace offering from Hitler.

    Simultaneously the Germans let the Allied expeditionary force (half a million soldiers) peacefully withdraw from France (Dunkirk evacuation etc). This too was a peace offering from Hitler, who hoped to show average Britons that he was not their enemy.

    However Hitler underestimated the extent to which average Britons were “solipsistic and insouciant” and worshiped ZOG.

    The British government rejected Hitler’s countless peace offers, and began terror-bombing German cities. Hitler delayed retaliating as long as he could, still trying to prove to England that he was not their enemy. Eventually, however, political pressure in Germany forced Hitler to start retaliating by targeting British military airfields, while the British continued terror bombing German civilians.

    The battle escalated. By Oct 1940, England was on the verge of buckling, but Germany suddenly broke off to prepare for the imminent Soviet invasion of all Europe. Six months later, on 10 May 1941, Rudolf Hess made a solo flight to Scotland to make yet another futile peace offer. The following month the Germans mounted a pre-emptive invasion of the USSR.

    THE POINT is that, as you said, “It’s pointless appealing to the people of the West.”

    In the West, most people believe whatever they are told by the media outlets. This includes most Unz readers, who believe there is a “pandemic” because the media outlets tell them there is.

    Russia, China, Iran, and Cuba have made countless peace offers to the Anglo-American world, all of which have been rejected. Gaddafi of Libya and Assad of Syria made peace offerings, and were attacked.

    ZOG cannot tolerate peace and cooperation.

    • Replies: @barr
    , @Rich
  126. Agent76 says:

    Apr 15, 2021 Tension : Putin Orders Live Fire Drills to Attack ‘Enemy’ TODAY as US Warship to Arrive in Black Sea

    THE RUSSIAN navy has announced it will hold live-fire drills in the Black Sea as tensions with the US threaten to boil over into conflict.

    Apr 16, 2021 Ready for nuclear holocaust with Russia over Ukraine?

    Are we prepared to see our loved ones burn alive in a nuclear holocaust in a war with Russia over Ukraine? If not, cut out the macho saber rattling and deescalate before it’s too late.

  127. @GMC

    Russia is looking at a bunch of retards and morons that run the West , and that isn’t worth putting their country thru another war – yet.

    I agree. The West is committing suicide as fast as it can. Socially, economically, politically, culturally, and demographically the West is constantly accelerating its self-destruction. Each day brings a new low.

    Every day Russia and China get stronger, while ZOG gets weaker.

    Why should Russia soil itself by tussling with a psychopath that will very soon be dead?

    Russia will defend its coastal areas, while avoiding a full shooting war — for now.

  128. anonymous[109] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    You are giving away NATO strategy. Traitor.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  129. barr says:
    @Sean

    WW1 was draw until USA entered . WW2 destroyed what was left of UK .Not much was left as it found out in 1956 Suez and later while handing the HK to China .

  130. frontier says:
    @but an humble craftsman

    “The Russians shall not have Constantinople” was treachery to Christendom.

    Nothing new on the western front…

  131. mike99588 says:
    @RoatanBill

    For the good of all, Putin needs to figure out how to humiliate BoJo’s distraction incursions and win the public relations war. e.g. say a 50-100 gal florescent yellow or pink paint ball or spray coat with video posted world-wide…

    Make the point Russia can hit the erring RN ship easily and could do it in but make a mockery of them instead. We’ve all known close in sea surface targets are sitting ducks since 1941 with HMS Prince of Wales and Repulse being sunk by Japan airpower.

    RN knows too.
    Sink another UK sacrifice offering? too sad and almost boring.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  132. mike99588 says:
    @Corvinus

    You should (re)read the Guns of August and maybe one the WWII histories here.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  133. cassandra says:

    There is one more thing I think Putin could do: make a solemn speech and directly address the people of the West telling them the truth about what the western political leaders are doing.

    I enjoy reading Saker’s articles, but sometimes he crosses over into inexplicable naivete. This suggestion of relying American public opinion is one example: few in America listen to Putin directly, and the news sources who tell Americans what he “really” said will excerpt quotes as necessary to portray whatever he says as the ravings of a war monger.

    Consider that even after all this time, the disintegration of the political truce in Ukraine at the end of February 2014 is now generally regarded in the west as the Ukrainian people exuberantly liberating themselves from Russia. Hardly anyone knows the reality that a sniper-supported violent coup overthrew a peaceful compromise to hold democratic elections 6 months later. Even fewer know that the European state guarantors of the agreement walked away.

    It’s hopeless to think that Putin’s words could be remotely effective after being passed through the meat-grinder of the western propaganda machine. Unless, perhaps, he did something so truly drastic as to attract direct viewership, like giving the address in English.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  134. mike99588 says:
    @GMC

    The bridge is a political statement built on an unstable bottom.
    It is a big FU to Ukraine since it has low overhead.

  135. As I can completely agree with the majority of The Saker’s observations, I cannot see Russia using destructive force to deter a UK or US ship that has entered the Russian controlled Black Sea.

    Russia, China, and Iran are playing the “long game” and escalating to a use of force over minor incursions such as the one just witnessed, does not appear to be in these nations’ playbooks.

    Yes, they will respond. But they will respond carefully…

    As to Andrei Martyanov’s Expectations; I would not put too much faith in his opinions here. His declaration of what type of equipment will be used and how it would be used is overly specific for one who is no longer on active duty. Besides, we have no real indication of how well connected he is in Russia to be able to determine the credibility of his statements.

    This is not to say that I disagree with everything Andrei Martyanov says. However, in this piece, it appears to be somewhat sensationalist in that Russia my decide to initiate a war by possibly sinking a western Navy ship.

    What good would it do; especially when one is considering that many politicians in the United States and the EU are completely delusional?

    No, what I see happening is that Russia, China, and Iran are slowly developing plans with other allies to send in specialized units into the United States to completely takeover the US government while packing up the majority of its leadership and sending them off to The Hague to sit trial for Crimes against Humanity. Israel will be keeping a bench warm for them.

    This will done quickly and silently while taking control over the economic factors that are directly related to such operations so as to avoid an economic collapse in the US. That result is also something these nations want to avoid since the US is one of the largest economies in the world and allowing it to crumble will only cause massive ripple effects everywhere.

    Many will disagree with my observations here. However, a continental-wide or even a trans-Atlantic conflict is unthinkable with the weaponry that Russia, China, and Iran currently have in their inventories. In addition, their preparations are for defense not to sustain a massive, international conflict.

    So the quiet takeover of the US is, in my view, a far more expected scenario from Russia, China, And Iran…

  136. @Wizard of Oz

    When anyone asks for “evidence” it makes me chuckle. Even if evidence is presented it’ll be mocked as false. Don’t bother to ever ask for evidence, you’ll only make yourself look more ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  137. @alwayswrite

    alwayswrite + neverthink = alwayswrong

  138. If the USS Ross tries the same stunt then I hope Russia sinks it, come what may.
    Better a smaller war now then the big war the US is marching the world into.

  139. @GMC

    GMC you sound very angry,well that’s what happens when you live in a Kremlin propaganda bubble

    Russia is incapable of abiding to international law,that’s because they ain’t a civilised country

    Putin is nothing but a KGB ganster capo,running a gangster state

    You’re obviously another person who can’t deal with the facts

    Well I’ll tell you this,you better get ready for more of this because nobody is gonna bow down to the fascist Putin

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    , @bob7757
  140. cassandra says:

    The Red Russian Rapist Army operates in the same fashion that it has for centuries. Invasion, Rape, Murder, Ethnic Cleansing, and Genocide.

    …not at all like the Norsemen, and Normans, on the British Isles, the Teutonic Knights in the Baltics, the Scandinavian traders in early Poland and Russia, the Muslim and Italian slavers from Crimea, the Ottomans in the Balkans and Eastern Europe, or the Albigensian Crusaders in Languedoc. The mirror of history reflects much the same from all directions. Everyone has excuses for their behavior, the difference being, we don’t hear the Russian apologia in the west.

    Saker plays the “racist” card on behalf of the Russian Red Rapist army. Some things never change, and Russians will NEVER be able to get past their inferiority complex.

    You’re ironically expressing your own western European racist attitude.

  141. The United States, or rather USrael, already takes us seriously. Hence the incessant hysteria(demonization us in the eyes of the western philistine in order to consolidate sheep for slaughter) in Tel-Aviv on the Potomac and the ridiculous provocations of their satellites in the Black Sea. Why should we push something that is already falling under its weight?
    But… If One shot in our direction then the ship will go to the bottom.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  142. Sarah says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Let’s have a little fun in this world of bullies.

    Here is a solution that would cause an unstoppable laughter in the whole world:

    Let the Russian planes bomb the next British or US ship violating their territorial waters with Super-Glue barrels.

    • LOL: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @cassandra
  143. barr says:
    @A little boy in the crowd

    “The British government rejected Hitler’s countless peace offers, and began terror-bombing German cities. Hitler delayed retaliating as long as he could, still trying to prove to England that he was not their enemy. Eventually, however,”

    Pakistan ,India, Iraq ,Iran and many other countries still behave like Hitler did . They ignore histories and fervently expect or earnestly hope USA /Uk wont behave to them the way Philippines (USA) Arab (UK) or Latin America (USA) or Africa (Europe ) were treated .

    One size of explanation fits all- the renegade traitors 5 the columns in those countries participate in the looting in the names of freedom, democracy or civilization or progress. Sometimes to sound authentic to native citizen ,they might blame and repudiate colonial UK or France of yesteryear . Its a lot easier to stomp on the dead elephant particularly when it helps to brush up an image that hides the corruption and exploitation .

    Hitler should have known better after a few skirmishes but his racism or worshipping of British royalty or parliament or colonies or all of those turned him into hostage or prisoner of his own making .

    • Replies: @John Q Duped
  144. @mike99588

    I have two completely opposite thoughts on NATO.

    Opinion 1:
    I think you know that shooting a rubber band powered paperclip at any NATO force will be interpreted as an act of war and it’s off to the races. Even your paintball idea, which is very imaginative and one I like very much, would result in a lethal reply. NATO is just itching to light things off.

    Should a serious war start, Russia would unleash maximum effort and sink all the combatants surface vessels in the Black Sea and the Mediterranean. All surface military vessels are floating coffins regardless of what flag they fly. The concept of a surface vessel navy would become the official anachronism it already is.

    Opinion 2:
    NATO is full of shit for brains loud mouth armchair warriors that would soil themselves if the bear ever growled at them. NATO members egg each other on with serious US prodding and they publicly spout the US script but privately are in it only for the personal perks and privileges they enjoy. The defense contractors and politicians are only involved in NATO for the money. If Russia fired a paintball at them, there would be no reply and their respective populations might put a halt to their con game fearing the NATO joke has run its course.

    I just don’t know which is more realistic. Further, you have the seriously mental cases like the US, England and Turkey along with joke countries like … all the rest. If Russia did reply to an incursion, the political instability it would create in the podunk countries might just cause a mass exodus from NATO over the next 6 to 12 months.

    I lean more to option 2 since Ukraine wants in on the NATO gravy train but has been denied. I think that’s due to NATO not wanting to put their toys at risk knowing that Ukraine loonies would start something if they were convinced that they had partners.

  145. Whitewolf says:
    @alwayswrite

    The fact is it’s Russia who are incapable of their treaty obligations by their behaviour,especially their claims about the use of weapons,which is absolutely forbidden unless the Royal Navy ship was undertaking acts of aggression,which it wasn’t

    It was provoking the Russians. There was no other reason for it to be in the area. Maybe it was just a distraction from the extended 2 weeks lockdown to “flatten the curve”. It’s not like a single destroyer in the Black Sea has any force projection power against the Russians.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  146. Alden says:
    @alwayswrite

    Saker’s a Russian patriot who resides in the state of Florida USA. He seems to despise America and all of Europe. Saker should go back to Russia and write his pro Russian articles from his beloved home country.

    He’s an excellent example of the America despising immigrants we don’t need. From Hispanic unskilled Labor to HI B asian and Indian tech and medical workers, we don’t need any more immigrants who hate and despise Americans. And they all do, every one of them.

  147. Britain has no agency in such matters. Their actions are determined by Uncle Shmuel.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  148. Anonymous[607] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting take on the incident by Rand Paul:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hms-defender-versus-russian-military-danger-believing-your-own-propaganda

    (flag waving imbeciles need not to worry: Rand Paul (and his dad) are both “Russian agents)

  149. Whitewolf says:
    @Sean

    Russia has no need for hasty aggressive moves against the US. All it has to do is wait while the US destroys itself.

  150. Alden says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    Right I always considered Black Sea shipping a joint cooperation between Turkey Russia and to a lesser extent Iran. And Turkey, a NATO member controls the Bosporus entrance de facto whatever treaties Law of the Sea whatever.

    Some commenters forget that it was a British, not American ship that violated Russian waters.
    Go home Saker and write and publish your articles in Russia. Are you trying to start another Crimean war or what? We don’t need any immigrants including you.

  151. anon[825] • Disclaimer says:

    Andrei Martyanov: “Most likely, they will open fire, but first only with small-caliber naval artillery (30-mm from the Russian border patrol ship or even 76-mm), and that fire will be aimed at the propeller-steering group (i.e. at the stern) to begin with…

    My non-military recommendation: load many 40′ shipping containers with pig manure.

    Dump.

    The other members of the Olympic Rings of Evil: US, Israel, France, Canada,
    could get the message.

    5 dancing shlomos

  152. Meanwhile elsewhere …
    Perhaps Palestine is a more volatile flashpoint ??

    Remembering that warnings have been given by Palestine Resistance ref Jerusalem (many recent items on UR), it seems that Israel has discounted such warnings and begun demolitions of Palestinian homes/shops in E Jerusalem’s Silwan district …

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/video/israeli-forces-begin-demolitions-east-jerusalems-silwan-neighbourhood

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/29/demolitions-begin-in-occupied-east-jerusalems-silwan

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210629-israel-demolishes-72-buildings-and-displaces-dozens-of-palestinians-in-three-months/

  153. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    In a sane world the Germans would declare they are not amused by
    the JewK crapping in their backyard, further that Samson delusions are
    not covered by Art.5, not by their soldiers, not by their money, not by their bases,
    not by their political support.

    Ours is not one of those timelines 😛

    OTOH the major point of the deployment was to sell arms to the (((Ukraine))),
    so a little show that Russia = chicken would be true to form.
    I´m sure the Genshtab are at this moment busy biting checkers in their asses
    they didn´t annex all of Noworossiya (incl. Odessa and Dniepropetrowsk)
    and liberated Transdnjistr when it was time.
    So, back to waiting for the Ukies to try something funny (after all what are a few weeks).

    Of course there is the distant possibility they are weak …
    but precious little would change strategically.

  154. @Alden

    Alden i agree but the Saker isn’t even Russian,thats something most people don’t know,he’s actually a Swiss national

    But basically yes he should be deported as he’s obviously a traitor and pro kremlin shill

  155. Robjil says:

    The Dutch joined in for the fun. I thought we had the big Covid thing going on this planet. That Covid thing must not be so real if these jokers like playing with fire on this planet.
    As Reagan said in the 1980s, if Aliens came down to take over the earth. Russia, the US and the whole world would work together to fight such a real disease. Covid thing is promoted to be such a thing. Thus, it must not be really so bad, if the same war games continue on this planet without a break.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/527922-dutch-evertsen-black-sea-fighter-jets/

  156. As of late, my comments are much like the proverbial broken record, but here’s the skinny as to why Putin would never issue an order to sink anything….Approximately nine years ago, an Iranian inventor created a new Electronic Warfare devise, Khibiny capable of jamming missile, battleground communication, ground-to-satellite communication, drones and cruise guidance systems in effect any weapon, surveillance or guidance system devise aboard naval patrol ships. This same devise was successfully used by the Russian Air Force , against two Israeli jets during a confrontation in Syrian air space as well as against the USS Donald Cook during patrols in the Black Sea. It was so effective it proved to the Russian Air Force that the devise could temporarily knock out the entire early warning system for Alaska’s NORAD.

    [MORE]

    Viktor Nikolaevich Bondarev, Commander of the Russian Air Force, dons Medals for Honor for bravery and has Hero of the Russian Federation (among others). He will not hesitate to deploy Khibiny Electronic Jamming devises to neutralize any threat be they on land or sea and he has a wide variety of such Hi-Tech devises at his disposal. In effect, once Bandarev gicves the order to deploy Khibiny, any ship will be reduced to a floating bathtub. Again, this invention, based on“Magrav technology”, was conceived of and the technical details were offered to, various governments by the same Iranian-born nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe (no intellectual property rights or greedy grabs for wealth) At this point readers may be asking themselves, what was the U.S. reaction to the inventor and his devise? Executive Order signed by President Obama on 23 April 2012. E.O. 313? banning the use/research of Magrav technology” here in the USA, justifying his reason for doing so because Iran used it to down and then capture one of the United States most secretive and sophisticated drones in December, 2011, and then Iran turned the tables on us, sharing this new weapon with Syria. Mehran Keshe replied to the American leader in an open letter by stating: I quote: “Your Excellency President Obama, We offer you a path towards real world peace through the development of this new technology for the whole human race. I invite you to a direct presentation of our technology to you and your cabinet, to be given on neutral ground where the president of Iran could also be present and where no one betrays anyone else, so that we can all understand the fundamental change that is about to be brought to mankind. Then let us talk about genuine world peace. As I said in my Sunday interview in Los Angeles, let us convert the military factories of the US to provide resources for a US space organization, so that the tools of war become the craft of universal peace.

    “The aircraft carriers of the US will become nothing but floating bathtubs if our Magrav’s technology is used effectively, and the runways full of F16s and 18s and so on will be nothing but runway museums of iron birds, as these craft will not be able to fly if their electronic systems are once touched by Magrav’s space technology. These crafts and battleships would have to be rewired from A to Z before they could ever operate again. President Obama, we invite you to understand this change and to let us show you the technology that is bringing it about. Then we invite you to the table of world peace. Please sign a decree for genuine peace and not a gagging order for science and technology, which your people understand fully what we have developed as they try to protect the pride of your nation…end quote

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  157. Rich says:
    @A little boy in the crowd

    Giving an enemy an avenue of escape is a common military tactic. A cornered enemy, like a cornered rat, will fight ferociously and inflict unnecessary damage on the victorious side. In both battles you mentioned, the Germans achieved their goal of ridding the area of enemy troops and minimizing losses on their side. I don’t think it was actually any kind of peace offering to the Brits.

  158. Alden says:
    @Blissex

    It’s 2021, not 1921. The last of the British jingoistic chauvinists died decades ago. Look at the calendar.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  159. FB says: • Website
    @Sean

    Britain is a highly advanced country country that defeated Germany…blablabla

    Primitive Russia was the only combatant that was…blablabla

    It’s almost hard to believe that the human gene pool, as polluted as it has become, could come up with an idiot of your magnitude.

    Helen Patricia Sharman, CMG, OBE, HonFRSC [born 30 May 1963] is a chemist and astronaut who became the first British person in SPACE, when she flew to the Mir space station, in May 1991.

    Maybe the ‘primitive’ Russians should have asked a ‘highly advanced’ country like Britain to send Yuri Gagarin into space? Just 15 years after Russia’s ‘bumbling’ and ‘backward’ performance of destroying 90 percent of the German military in WW2?

    Your self-delusion is truly mind-boggling.

    Russia makes nothing anyone wants.

    Except fighter jets that are bought by the hundreds by the world’s two most populous countries, China and India, and many others.

    Maybe you have heard of the Nasa Perseverance Rover that is on mars right now? It didn’t get there on SpaceX rocket engines, but on the Russian RD180 engines that the US has been buying for 20 years.

    [MORE]


    The RD180 engine is the workhorse for both NASA and the US Space Force; at right is the RD180s big brother, the RD171, the world’s most powerful rocket engine at 1.8 million pounds of thrust.

    Besides the current Nasa mars mission, the previous 2011 mission [Curiosity Rover] also got there on the Russian engines. Also the mars mission before that [Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter]. Also the New Horizons interplanetary space probe. Also the Osiris-Rex Asteroid sample return mission now under way and due to return in 2023.

    Also FIVE of the six total x37 spaceplane launches. And practically ALL of the launches of US high tech spysats, missile early warning sats, and other mission-critical launches for the Space Force’s National Security Space Launch program. A total of 87 missions with a PERFECT RECORD!

    Despite all of Conman Musk’s lip-flapping about mars, his company has never been chosen by Nasa for any mars mission. The NSSL has only used SpaceX for a grand total of THREE launches [lol]. And those were fairly pedestrian GPS sats.

    These numbers speak for themselves. The Russian engines are the WORKHORSE engines for both Nasa and the Space Force. SpaceX is just a sideshow!

    And oh yeah, the Boeing Starliner crew spacecraft is flying on the RD180 engines too. And let’s not forget that the Northrop-Grumman Antares rocket flies on Russian engines too, the smaller RD191.

    Not to mention the last TEN years of flying US astronauts to the ISS, since the US had no MANNED spaceflight capability whatsoever, until the NASA-sponsored SpaceX Crew Dragon started flying in the last few months.

    And speaking of the ISS. This is only called the ‘international’ space station [instead of MIR 2], because the US bought its way in, having failed to develop a station of its own to match the Russian MIR station of the 1980s and ’90s. From the wikipedia entry on the Russian Orbital Segment [ROS]:

    The ROS handles Guidance, Navigation, and Control for the entire Station.

    The segment currently consists of five modules, which together essentially comprise the base configuration of the cancelled Russian space station Mir-2.

    The segment is controlled directly from Roskosmos’s Mission Control Center in Moscow.

    That’s the space station. The US modules are superfluous add-ons that would just fall down to earth in a fireball, same as the failed Skylab did in the late 1970s.

    Yes, in the 1990s, the US tried to build a space station to rival MIR, called the Freedom space station. Unfortunately, the knowhow was just not there, and it was killed on the drawing board, due to serious technical shortcomings. It was much easier to just buy into MIR 2.

    The Chinese similarly have piggybacked off the Russian space technology. From the wikipedia entry on the Shenzhou manned Chinese space program:

    In March 1995, a deal was signed to transfer manned spacecraft technology to China.

    Included in the agreement were training of cosmonauts, provision of Soyuz spacecraft capsules and life support systems, androgynous docking systems, and space suits.

    Pretty much a turnkey space program! It should be noted though that the Chinese have now developed their own advanced rocket engine, the YF100, which are the main engines for the Long March 5 rocket that launched the Chinese Tianhe space station, as well as their Zhurong Rover that is now on mars!

    This engine was also based on acquired Russian technology, the RD120 engine, and has been flying since 2015—unlike the US, which has still not been able to build and fly an advanced, closed-cycle engine [even though they have received 10 key technologies and a license to build the RD180].

    Incidentally, the Russians invented the closed cycle technology [aka staged combustion] in the 1950s, and the first such engine flew by 1960.

    This technology was believed to be impossible by Western rocket engineers.

    The fully heated liquid O2 flows through the pre-burner and into the main chamber in this design.

    In fact, they had no idea the Russians had achieved this engineering feat until after the collapse of the Soviet Union, when they were given a mothballed NK33 engine from the 1960s, which much to their disbelief hit its advertised performance numbers on the US test stand. The US promptly bought a number of these mothballed engines [think garage sale] for the Antares rocket and the NASA resupply contract for the ISS.

    The Antares rocket was successfully launched from NASA’s Wallops Flight Facility on April 21, 2013. This marked the first successful launch of the NK-33 heritage engines built in early 1970s.

    A technical note here about why this advanced technology was considered infeasible. The rocket engine’s turbopump is the heart of the engine and is basically a gas turbine engine [think turbojet] that drives the propellant pumps, bringing the kerosene and liquid oxygen up to high pressure, which is necessary to produce thrust [only pressure energy can be converted to WORK energy in any heat engine, which is why every engine, from a car, to an air conditioner, to a rocket, needs COMPRESSION.]

    The turbopump utilizes a separate combustion chamber to burn part of the propellant in order to drive the turbines, which, in turn, drive the propellant pump rotors. In the advanced, ‘staged cycle,’ the mixture in the turbopump pre-burner is by necessity oxygen-rich [fuel-lean], because that gas is then routed to the main rocket combustion chamber, after driving the turbines and pumps—instead of being dumped wastefully overboard as on the ‘gas-generator’ cycle used by SpaceX and other primitive designs.

    Anyone who has ever used an oxy-acetylene cutting torch knows what happens when you squeeze the lever for extra oxygen—thick steel plate instantly turns to candle wax. Developing the metallurgy to handle this is still something that US rocket engineers have not mastered. SpaceX is supposedly working now on a staged-combustion engine, the Raptor, but it is yet to fly into space. Blue Origin is also working on this.

    Another area where the US seems to have given up is in advanced scramjet engines, which are air-breathing engines like turbojets, but can reach speeds far in excess of any jet engine. This is the engine that is used in the Russian Tsirkon hypersonic cruise missile that is now completing its state trials and expected to enter service in the coming months.

    Artist’s rendering of the hypersonic Tsirkon missile which reaches a speed of over 6,000 mph [Mach 10]

    This missile has already performed numerous successful launches from surface ships and submarines of the Russian navy and has successfully destroyed targets hundreds of kilometers away. It will also be carried by the formidable Russian nuclear cruise missile subs, like the new Yasen class, two of which are already in service.

    The nuclear submarine Kazan has arrived at a permanent base in the Northern Fleet. May 2021

    There is no conceivable way to stop a hypersonic cruise missile like the Tsirkon. Much less the intercontinental-range Avangard, which skips across the top of the atmosphere at an incredible 18,000 mph [Mach 25] and has been operationally deployed since late 2019. US weapons inspectors were present during the deployment of Avangard to its silos, as part of arms control treaties.

    A smaller, air-launched version of Tsirkon will begin testing next year, which will be carried by the supersonic Tu22M strategic bomber fleet.

    Another technical note about scramjet engines, like the kind that powers the Tsirkon. These have for decades been considered the holy grail of aeronautical propulsion technology. Eventually this technology is expected to migrate down to civil aviation. A current long-haul flight from New York to Beijing that takes 14 hours, could be completed in just over TWO HOURS at a flight speed of M6!

    Here again, the Russians pioneered the scramjet technology, flying the first such engine in 1991 at the Sary Shagan test range in Kazakhstan. Called ‘Kholod’ which means’ cold in Russian, the engineers at the Central Institute of Aviation Motors extended a hand to Nasa to participate in a series of Kholod flight tests during the 1990s.

    Remarkably, the Russians even published several milestone papers in the US professional literature:

    Future Flight Test Plans of an AxisymmetricHydrogen-Fueled Scramjet Engineon the Hypersonic Flying Laboratory—AIAA [American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics]

    Recent Flight Test Results of the Joint CIAM-NASA Mach 6.5 Scramjet Flight Program—Nasa

    Despite this helping hand, the US has now pretty much given up on scramjet technology. The technical challenge is the fact that the airflow speed through the engine is at very high speed, above the speed of sound [supersonic], unlike ramjet engines which have been around for years and are also used in cruise missiles, such as the Russian Oniks.

    P800 Oniks anti-ship cruise missile flies at Mach 3 speed

    Russia has also developed a shorter-range version of Oniks for India, called Brahmos. the US has no supersonic cruise missiles in its inventory, nor any ramjet missiles.

    The ramjet is a proven technology and differs from the scramjet in that the airflow is slowed down to below sonic velocity inside the engine, much like in a turbojet engine. But this also limits its speed, so it cannot fly faster than about Mach 3 or 4.

    The challenge with the scramjet engine and the much faster flow of air inside the engine is that fuel takes TIME to burn. This is known as the flame front speed and is a major limiting factor. At a speed of 500 meters per second through the engine [about M 1.5], a one-meter long combustion chamber will require the fuel to ignite and burn completely in one five hundredth of a second. A nearly impossible physical challenge, even for hydrogen fuel, which burns ten times faster than kerosene used in jets and rockets.

    The US experimentation with scramjets like the Boeing X51 have been plagued with engine flameouts. Thus the US scramjet programs have mostly come to a halt, even as the Tsirkon is set to enter operational service.

    The Russian advance is due to a new kind of fuel chemistry, which they call Destilin, that could be the key to the Tsirkon’s success to finally make scramjet technology viable.

    The bottom line is that Russia has built on its long history of engineering mastery of the two technologies that are the foundation of military might—aerospace and nuclear.

    These recent advances are why the US is now seeking a dialog on ‘strategic stability.’ As the commenter ‘Alfred’ pointed out on the Shamir thread, the real meat and potatoes of the recent Geneva summit was with the 400-strong technical delegations that each side brought along.

    The US is now decades behind in crucial technologies. It is not lost on anyone that the power of weapons technology has shaped the course of history. The west’s global dominance in recent centuries is because of superior weapons that could subdue more numerous, but less effective peoples across the globe.

    This is just a small introduction to the subject of technical capability of the world’s major player’s in today’s world. There is also nuclear technology, which Russia also dominated globally—building advanced technology power plants in dozens of countries, including China.

    China is still benefiting from Russian technology in aerospace also. They want to now develop a LARGE rocket engine for a moon program and have thus partnered with Russia. The country is also relying on Russia to build an over-the-horizon radar network for early missile warning. not to mention joint projects in civil aviation in wide-body jets and heavy helicopters, air defense systems and much more.

    The US, by comparison, is a financialized shell, that is increasingly unable to generate technical skill in advanced engineering fields like aerospace and nuclear—and its problematic weapons systems are either treading water or outright going downhill from where they were in the 1980s.

  160. @Tsar Nicholas

    Russia always has a choice no matter what it has said in the past.

    Obviously, it makes sense for Russia to hype its potential response in order to deter repetitions. And yes, there is always a cost for a bluff made and then, in the event, not carried out. Lots of bluffing from all sides at the moment.

    But things are too complicated to state with certainty that Russia will take this action or that action. Sinking a NATO ship is perilous no matter how provocative the NATO actions.

    Russia won the last round of bluffing when it deterred Ukraine from resuming offensive operations against Donetsk and Luhansk and the US from supporting such an operation.

    We’ll see what happens.

    • Replies: @haha
  161. Farhad says:
    @Alden

    ad hominems are a sign that you cannot argue on substance.
    besides, he already preempted this crap, read this:
    http://thesaker.is/why-do-i-live-in-the-usa

  162. @Wizard of Oz

    Well, for the moment, let’s just compare the Golan, rather than all of Palestine, with Crimea.

    Trump recognized Israel’s annexation of the Golan, and Sleepy Joe doesn’t look as though he will reverse that. But Russia’s annexation of Crimea back by a referendum is outrageous!

    That comparison illustrates very well the hypocrisy of the US and its simultaneous roles of servile lackey to Judeofascist Israel and aggressive bully towards the rest of the world.

    How pathetic that we’ve come to this.

    • Agree: Robin Hood, Alfred
    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Blissex
  163. USA1943 says:
    @Anon

    I Think I would want to help Russia in that One, I would Join Russia’s Military and Try out for the ALPHA SPETSNAZ, so I can be in the Heart of the Battle, Do they take Americans?
    I am so tired of the TV, Media, News, Schools, Places of Work etc celebrating Sexual Deviancy and Diversion, I wish these Misfits would go back in the Closet.

  164. @FB

    Yawning 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴

    • Agree: Schuetze
  165. Schuetze says:

    It’s all a big show, Putin is an actor just like Johnson.

  166. Funny how these neocons are almost uniformly either Polish irredentists (Brzezinsky) or progeny of the Jewish diaspora out of the old Russian lands. (Rachel Maddow/Blinken, &c)

    Either way, Russia isn’t going to go all weak at the knees because of their dream of Universal Anglosphere Imperium. When people start trying to materialize their wargame fantasies, real tragedy can result.

  167. Dear gentle readers of the Saker…here is a very gentle reminder:

    The US Military=PENNYWISE THE CLOWN=IT

    And this is General Mark Milley and his butt-plug friend USMC General James Mathis favorite kind of Military….a Military conceived of in HELL ITSELF….

  168. Corvinus says:
    @mike99588

    “You should (re)read the Guns of August and maybe one the WWII histories here.”

    Tell me, what exactly makes you think Russia will end up pulling the trigger?

  169. Corvinus says:
    @elmerfudzie

    “Approximately nine years ago, an Iranian inventor created a new Electronic Warfare devise, Khibiny capable of jamming missile, battleground communication, ground-to-satellite communication, drones and cruise guidance systems in effect any weapon, surveillance or guidance system devise aboard naval patrol ships.”

    https://defensesystems.com/articles/2017/05/12/fakeew.aspx

    https://www.voanews.com/europe/russian-mystery-weapon-claim-seen-sign-military-weakness

  170. Rurik says:
    @Schuetze

    So do you accuse the Palestinians of “can’t let go of your WWII butt-hurt.”

    do you live like a typical Palestinian?

    Or anyone you know?

    Of course it was Russia who first legitimized the theft of Palestine,

    You mean “Russia”, don’t you?

    You’re as well aware as anyone that Russia wasn’t being controlled by Russians in 1948, or the several decades up to it.

    Of course Russia had started WWII by instigating the signing of a non-aggression pact with NSDAP Germany and then stabbed Poland in the back too in 1939 after Germany had done the dirty deed.

    There again, don’t you mean “Russia”? Do you consider post-October revolution Russia to be run by ethnic Russians, for the benefit of the Russian people?

    I don’t. Not hardly. Quite the contrary, actually.

    More or less like France or Germany or England or North America today- Russia at that time, was ruled by their most intractable, hatred-consumed enemy, in fact.

    At the end of WWII Russia purged, raped and murdered all Germans from Prussia as well.

    As I mentioned, Russia was ruled by the same cabal that ruled, (and rules) England and North America and most of Europe at the time. Already on this thread they’ve mentioned Eisenhower’s death camps, or just consider Dresden. For all of Stalin’s seething hatred for Germans, he never burned them alive (and mostly women and children), by the tens or hundreds of thousands.

    Of course prior to WWII the great Russian hero Stalin had murdered, raped and ethnically cleansed all Tatars and Cossacks from Ukraine and Crimea, the root of most of this enmity concerning Crimea to this day.

    From what I know about the Tartars history with Russia, I don’t blame Russia for purging them out.

    And that isn’t what drives the current hostility. The enmity today is driven by the fact that Putin put the kibosh on zion’s drive to rip Syria apart so as to steal her land and resources. So ZOG responded by perpetrating a coup and installing an anti-Russian zio-stooge in Kiev. With the intent of denying Russia it’s naval base in Sevastopol and other provocations, something Putin (with very good reasons) was unwilling to countenance.

    The ((West)) doesn’t give a fuck about the people of Crimea or any notions of national sovereignty or International Law. Duh. It all boils down to Putin thumbing his nose at ZOG. Duh, duh, and duh.

    So you want to just ignore the fact the Putin is a crypto-jew, a Kabbalist, a Chabad Lubbowitz patsy, ignore that Putin is playing along with the plandemic, ignore that Putin never dares cross Israel or the Rothschilds, and ignore that Russia still has a Rothschild controlled central bank, and pretend that because Putin pretends to fight against globohomo that he is a hero to the entire planet and that his constant macho displays of planet destroying nuclear weapons is justified. Good on ya.

    I accept that Putin plays ball. I also rail against Russia’s stupid refusal to repudiate the terrible war crimes of the Soviet period, including the Red Army rapists, and other atrocities.

    I consider it beyond stupid that Russia idiotically insists that Eastern Europe honor those Soviet monument’ abominations that profane the sacred soil of their lands.

    Dumber than dumb, and all to massage the ignorant, chest-thumbing, ultra-nationalistic, (and ever so fragile) Russian male ego. Disgusting, and beyond stupid.

    [MORE]

    But the fact is that Putin is the only sane and reasonable man on the Western world’s stage today.

    The only Statesman, in fact.

    And it has been his singular genius and tenacity that has saved Russia from the mass-looting that was in progress, and a fate worse than death, with Russian children likely sold on the international child sex slavery block to British and Israeli and Hollywood pedophiles, and saved Syria from a Libyan-type of hell-on-earth fate.

    And not only Syria, but likely Lebanon and other nations that would have fallen like dominoes, once the fiend met no resistance in its zio-march across the Middle East and beyond.

    Russia today is not a perfect state. Hardly. But compared to the ZUS or France or Germany or so many other nations descending into the abyss as I write this, Russia looks not just sane, but heroically so.

    When’s the last time Russia put an inoffensive and law-abiding ninety year old lady in prison for saying things ZOG doesn’t like?

    When’s the last time Russia bombed nations into the stone age to sate the insatiable hatred of zion?

    When’s the last time the Kremlin assisted in a false flag mass-murder of thousands of Russian citizens, so that Israel could use their deaths to foment Eternal Wars on innocent nations?

    Using Russians to do the killing and dying, while slaughtering hundreds of thousands, if not more innocent men, women and children.

    The Russia of today is not the Russia of the Soviet Union.

    Russia under Putin is an ascendant Christian nation that values its heritage and people, and strives to prosper in a world menaced by a fiend.

    If it plays footsie with the fiend, then it does so because like all other nations, it has no choice.

    But when it comes to Russia vs. England, then in virtually every metric, Russia stands heads and shoulders above the moral abomination that is and has been Perfidious, ever since she waged an aggressive war on South Africa, on behalf of the most vicious and eternally rapacious fiends the world has ever known – International Jewish supremacist banksters.
    All anyone needs to know in parsing out who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, is by listening to ZOG’s media.

    If they’re railing against someone, then to the degree that they want that person dead, is the degree to which you can pretty much be sure that is one of the best people on this planet to breath the same air as you or I.

    Case in point:

    https://www.rt.com/news/527096-belgium-soldier-coronavirus-body/

    And make no mistake, they want Putin dead.

    From Kolomoyskyi to Khodorkovsky to Brad Sherman

    to David Frum

    they’re bleeding from thier phylacteries.

    It’s a beautiful thing!

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Thanks: Alfred, Sarah, W
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Seraphim
    , @Schuetze
  171. Saker

    You and your daughter might like Clancy Brothers…..

    Also Davey Spillane the great Uillean Piper…..The tune…Lament….he played in River Dance touches the Human Soul in deepest way possible….

  172. @alwayswrite

    You’re a TROLL, but at least you’re a FUNNY TROLL.

    • Agree: Robin Hood
    • Replies: @alwayswrite
    , @Seraphim
  173. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @cassandra

    I enjoy reading Saker’s articles, but sometimes he crosses over into inexplicable naivete.

    He has the naiveté of a Christian pup. The Kennedy brothers had that same naiveté, and look what ZOG did to them.

    It’s like these “Christians” have never read the Bible and are clueless about the true serpent nature of what the world is contending with.

    Moses knew how to deal with them. Jesus came to know how they should have been dealt with, and declared them a nest of vipers. Greco-Roman-Christian civilization dealt with them.

    I’m not sure what passes for “Christians” today have the first clue about how to deal with the serpent, or if they can even see it.

    That naiveté flows from a 6000 Year Old Earth world view.

    The serpent is a lot older than that.

  174. @Alden

    Missed Brexit, did you? Never heard of BoJo? Lucky you!

    • Replies: @22pp22
    , @Alden
  175. @Whitewolf

    Whitewolf,grow up!

    FFS anything provokes the thin skinned pathetic Russian cry babies

    The Russian idiots even kicked off,no pun intended,about Ukrainians having an map image on their teams football strip during the current Euro 2020 football competition,which included Crimea!

    I mean just how dumb and hysterical do you have to be!

    Russia is a pathetic dumb country,run by criminal savages

    NATO and any country has a right to sail their ships around Crimea,and to para phrase Victoria Newland,’ [email protected]#k the Russians

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  176. Mevashir says:
    @Rurik

    Russia under Putin is an ascendant Christian nation that values its heritage and people, and strives to prosper in a world menaced by a fiend.

    Beautifully stated!!!

    • Thanks: Rurik
  177. @GeneralRipper

    I’m glad you enjoy it 😉

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  178. Skeptikal says:
    @alwayswrite

    Hmmmm

    “unless the Royal Navy ship was undertaking acts of aggression,which it wasn’t”

    Well, I think the USA have some kind of policy whereby they can take preemptive action if they suspect foul play is on the way. That is, if they *think* that another party might be *thinking about* creating trouble. Indeed this concept is being applied domestically as well, to nip dissent and further “insurrections” in the bud and prevent crimes from every taking place!! Call it the American crystal ball that sees and knows all.

    So why can’t the Russians use the same kind of crystal ball type of preventive defense? Especially since, with their surveillance capacities, they probably actually know more about the Brits’ intentions (guided from Number 10) than do the sailors in the Defender’s poop deck themselves!

    Since the HMS Defender seemed to be locked and loaded and ready for trouble and even seeking it out, I see no reason why the Russkis can’t apply the same prevention principle: With those shots across the bow they were just taking preventive action against an obvious intention to harm.

  179. It’s all a big show, Putin is an actor just like Johnson.

    Agree. I posted a comment months ago about how most of the World’s private Central Banks are under the same umbrella (i.e. Bank of International Settlements) but the comment got deleted by a moderator I didn’t recognize (yes, censorship on UNZ ).

    https://www.bis.org/about/member_cb.htm?m=1%7C2%7C601

    The media puppets have us all thinking East vs West, North vs South, Up is Down and Down is Up.
    Take a giant step back. It’s all Kabuki theatre to keep the masses in a hysterical rage devoid of logic and reason. It’s very easy to manipulate people’s natural prejudice and racism. The frailty of being human.

  180. @SteveRogers42

    What if America’s sailor boys are having their periods during a potential confrontation?

    They do have a tendency to synchronize.

  181. Tomma says:

    For Saker up is down and white is black. According to him demise of USSR was good for Russia but it was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century for his idol V. Putin. Catastrophic loss of territory and population including over 40 million ethic Russians is good. Many more rabidly anti-Russian states on its borders (and it will get much, much worse) is good. Total loss of strategic depth is good. NATO ships and troops and their regular exercises in the Black Sea, which this lunatic still calls “the Russian lake”, is good. Being almost totally surrounded (under siege) is good. Enlargement of EU and NATO to enormous proportions by “swallowing” former Soviet states and eastern-European nations i.e., the former allies and countrymen is good. Should I continue? For years Russia has tried to accomplish what all these small new states accomplished seemingly so easy. It desperately offered itself multiple times for the membership in NATO and EU carelessly trampling upon the interest of its friends and allies, without looking either left or right. But it wasn’t to be! The road to paradise has ended up on the edge of hell. And…why should anybody care?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  182. @barr

    There’s the “racism” card being played. Racism had nothing to do with WW2. It didn’t exist.

  183. @Right_On

    Truth be told – nobody really knows which diesel electric with AIP is the quietest. My guess is in the Black Sea – the Russians would have the advantage though of “home turf”. Studying the currents and depths and salinity of the water all plays a part in modern day submarine detection. Honestly – whoever has the best physics department will probably do the best – same with detecting “stealth” planes.

  184. Avery says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    { But Russia’s annexation of Crimea}

    I’d rather we didn’t use ‘annexation’ in regards to Crimea.
    Crimea re-joined Russia.

    Israel, on the other hand has no historical claim to the Golan. They grabbed it during a war, and that’s how it stayed.

    But your point about Anlgo-American hypocrisy is spot on.

  185. This approach has a problem: only highly specialized people in the West are fully aware of what the Russians are doing and even less people fully understand the implications of the Russian actions.

    Not “less” fewer.

  186. moi says:
    @Notsofast

    If Putin weren’t such a wuss, he’d have sunk the Brit tub.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  187. mcohen says:

    russia is taking resources by force.this almost always ends badly and the British warship was a clear sign to Russia that it has been put on notice

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2019/02/28/as-russia-closes-in-on-crimeas-energy-resources-what-is-next-for-ukraine/amp/

    strange the saker fails to mention this

    • Replies: @Alfred
  188. cassandra says:
    @Sarah

    Let the Russian planes bomb the next British or US ship violating their territorial waters with Super-Glue barrels.

    I really, really, really, really like this idea!

    The trouble is, the Russians would be accused of chemical warfare, using “an agent that has been determined to be a potential carcinogen by the State of California” on American service men. I’d recommend horse manure and/or urine instead, although I suspect the spin in that case would be that the Russians’ are practicing chemical warfare by irresponsibly dumping methane into the atmosphere, thus destroying the planet.

    It’s not hard to come up with spin like this if you’re audience is sufficiently dumb and/or arrogant. I still don’t think you’ll win the infowar, but I very much like your idea about having fun in the process!

    • Thanks: Sarah
  189. 22pp22 says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    What’s Brexit got to do with anything? Have you ever lived in the UK? If you think the average Brit is scheming to reconquer the Empire, you must be nuts. Merkel’s decision to invite in the entire Islamic World was what turned Britain against the EU. The EU us also unpopular in Denmark and the Norwegians voted against joining. That does not mean they are going to put on horned helmets and invade Russia.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  190. @Mevashir

    Menaced by Pennywise the Clown….Pennywise the Clown=IT

  191. @Sean

    Hi Sean. Are you lying?

  192. Skeptikal says:
    @hum2

    Orlov lives in St. Petersburg.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  193. Notsofast says:
    @moi

    that is exactly what nato wants. the wussie brits changed course after the warning shots were fired. message delivered, no need to escalate, keep your powder dry.

  194. @22pp22

    What’s Brexit got to do with anything? Have you ever lived in the UK? If you think the average Brit is scheming to reconquer the Empire, you must be nuts. Merkel’s decision to invite in the entire Islamic World was what turned Britain against the EU. The EU us also unpopular in Denmark and the Norwegians voted against joining. That does not mean they are going to put on horned helmets and invade Russia.

    Of course everyday Brit’s are NOT scheming to take over the World. But….the majority of Brit’s and Europeans did nothing when NATO illegally bombed Iraq, Libya and Syria which directly resulted in the Refugee crisis. So indirectly, Brit’s did invite the Islamic refugees in. If you stay out of someone’s home and just defend yours, there is no problem.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @22pp22
  195. Skeptikal says:
    @Schuetze

    Yeah, “obsessed,” like you could say the USA is “obsessed” with Norfolk, Va, or Oakland/Richmond, CA, or even Portland, ME, not to mention Galveston, TX.

    LOL.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  196. bob7757 says:
    @alwayswrite

    That’s biiiig talk saying you aren’t going to bow down to a leader in another country! In this country though I bet you would bow down and do whatever the fascist government said just like the scared little girl you are.

  197. @bayviking

    It’s all about “israel”. Was “Nuland” working for the US when she regime-changed Ukraine and nearly snatched Crimea away from Russia? Or was she working for “israel”? Kagans!

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  198. Whitewolf says:
    @alwayswrite

    Ukraine and Russia were on friendly terms until the US sponsored a coup in Ukraine. One that’s responsible for thousands of deaths. Russia has every right to react to an obvious provocation by the UK. The Russians didn’t start the troubles in this scenario.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  199. TheIdiot says:

    Only a weak and dying superpower will sink the ship off the coast

    A strong and rising superpower and a sovereign nation will

    board the ship

    seize the ship, bring it to its own port

    arrest, put through the trial and

    incarcerate the entire crew

    and ultimately sink the empty vessel

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  200. 22pp22 says:
    @dogbumbreath

    I could not care less about the Moslems as long as they are as far away from me as possible. I have as much concern for their welfare as they have for min – none. And the refugee crisis began long before 2015. The problem that the denizens of the Third World always want to move to out countries. They turn the places they colonise into the same dystopian hellholes they fled.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @showmethereal
  201. haha says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    Nice to hear a cogent voice putting across its viewpoint in a sane and polite manner. Yes, indeed, things are too complicated and no one should be screaming and yelling about what Russia will/will not do, should/should not do, etc.

    • Thanks: Oscar Peterson
  202. Skeptikal says:
    @TheIdiot

    That sounds like a good idea!

  203. Seraphim says:
    @GeneralRipper

    No, he is a silly troll. Of course the idiocies he spews are funny.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  204. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Admit that the US and UK are likely to start a nuclear war. Given that fact use the nuclear terror to reorder the implications of such a war. Recently Nicaragua has arrested some 19 people who are considered foreign agents and enemies of the Nicaraguan state. The Nicaraguan state has used the language of sovereignty to condemn any interference in Nicaraguan affairs. This can be encouraged everywhere with a great multiplier effect on the Hegemon.

    This kind of thinking by small states can be encouraged by making it clear that any US invasion of an independent (anti-empire) state will be attacked by Russia using long range cruise missiles, possibly nuclear. Essentially a Monroe Doctrine for the world. Any response against Russia from such action will immediately result in an all out nuclear strike against the US.

    This means that resentful countries tired of IMF, World Bank and foreign central bank policies may seize assets, arrest and try personnel of the US, UK and other Western countries with much less fear of physical US intervention due to the vastly increased risk. Action against the financial affairs of the West by a gaggle of small countries exercising their sovereignty would destabilize the Western economies. Further action, situation allowing, could be taken by interventions into the financial markets by Russia and China.

    All that is necessary is that a few small countries believe the Russian pronouncement, seize Western assets, and the ball is rolling. Any effort to raise a military force against some country would be countered by a move of Russian and, perhaps, Chinese forces into a position to contest the issue well before an invasion force could appear. A situation in doubt in the region of one small country leaves the remainder of small countries free to act against the Hegemon with even less fear. If the US backs off, the power of the West is broken and we face the chaotic beginnings of a multipolar world.

    It is quite possible that long before it would actually come to military blows the economies of the West would collapse creating an altogether different order of things. Consider that if one must risk war leveraging up the resentments of the world against the Hegemon might be the best force multiplier of all and the best answer to US power and aggression.

    • Agree: Sarah
  205. Erebus says:

    Next time it happens, the Russians should Skripal the ship under circumstances nobody can make any sense of and then weave 6 months worth of increasingly incoherent explanations for what happened.

    Eventually, even London would know they’d been punked.

  206. Go ahead Saker. Tell your hero to sink a British ship. Neither you, nor he, will care for the aftermath.

    The Brits are correct. Those are Ukrainian waters, not Russian. Putin is simply the head of a pirate regime that will be brought to book for his criminality.

  207. @Badger Down

    Nuland was working for those space aliens that reside in your head.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  208. @Whitewolf

    The invasion was planned long before Putin kicked off his hybrid war against Ukraine. Russia has no right act like pirates. Those are Ukrainian waters, not Russian. Russia is acting the part of the provocateur.

    • LOL: GMC
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  209. @FB

    Are there any good Russian smartphones or toaster ovens? Or cars? Something with four wheels and decent gas mileage.

    I’m not really in the market for anything by Suhkoi. Just something that can be delivered by Amazon in 2 or 3 days and has good customer service.

    How about a digital camera? You would figure with all those spy satellites they’d be able to produce a decent camera.

    Asshole.

    • LOL: Sean
    • Troll: Harold Smith
    • Replies: @By-tor
    , @FB
  210. Seraphim says:
    @Quartermaster

    Was the ‘alien’ Kolomoisky ‘Zhidobandera’? Where is he now?

  211. Boris Johnson and his party aren’t British in any sense of the word, they are a motley assortment ethnic groups hostile to the real British people who take their marching orders from the hidden hand. If the British people were asked if they approved of Boris Johnson’s attempts to start a war with Russia, I’m sure a large majority would be against it because they know the outcome would be the obliteration of the nation of Britain.

  212. anon[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22

    Moslems are good antidote to the uneducated white racist morons overpopulating Britain France Australia and USA?

    • Replies: @22pp22
  213. By-tor says:
    @Johnny Rico

    Does the US ‘produce’- in the United States- any good cameras, toaster ovens or smartphones in 2021? No- China does. The US resembles an advanced colony importing finished goods of every sort and steel.

  214. Sean says:
    @FB

    All you have shown is that the Soviet Union put such a ridiculous disproportionate amount of resources into massive ICBMs that Russia inherited proven infrastucture in one department, and are now able to offer no-nonsense Russian rockets commercially cost effective at putting advanced technology made in the West into space.

    Once Russia had planes that they could be coy about, now they tell the world about their powerful weapons, and sound like Kim in North Korea. I like the story in the video about the Soviet test pilot whose plane crashed and his body was taken to the morgue; when his wife demanded to see him they finally brought the corpse out and he was… still alive!

    https://thebulletin.org/2017/03/how-us-nuclear-force-modernization-is-undermining-strategic-stability-the-burst-height-compensating-super-fuze/

    Because of improvements in the killing power of US submarine-launched ballistic missiles, those submarines now patrol with more than three times the number of warheads needed to destroy the entire fleet of Russian land-based missiles in their silos. US submarine-based missiles can carry multiple warheads, so hundreds of others, now in storage, could be added to the submarine-based missile force, making it all the more lethal.

    The revolutionary increase in the lethality of submarine-borne US nuclear forces comes from a “super-fuze” device that since 2009 has been incorporated into the Navy’s W76-1/Mk4A warhead as part of a decade-long life-extension program. We estimate that all warheads deployed on US ballistic missile submarines now have this fuzing capability. […] Before the invention of this new fuzing mechanism, even the most accurate ballistic missile warheads might not detonate close enough to targets hardened against nuclear attack to destroy them. But the new super-fuze is designed to destroy fixed targets by detonating above and around a target in a much more effective way. Warheads that would otherwise overfly a target and land too far away will now, because of the new fuzing system, detonate above the target.

    • Troll: Harold Smith
  215. @anon

    …but there’s always hope.

  216. @martin_2

    Maybe England has secretly agreed to defeat Russia while the US defeats China, thus keeping the world safe for Democracy.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  217. @Quartermaster

    “This are Ukrainian waters, not Russian”

    And the Islas Malvinas are Argentine, not Brutish.

    The Chagos Islands belong to Mauritius, not Brutain.

    Gibraltar belongs to Spain, not Brutannia.

    Kosovo belongs to Serbia, not to Amerikastani/EU as a narcomafia organ smuggling criminal colony.

    The territory between Gaza and the Jordan River belongs to Palestine, not to the zionist entity.

    What, you don’t agree? Then Crimea belongs to Russia.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  218. Alden says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The chauvinist jingoists died decades ago. Brexit has nothing to do with it. Of course some might think Brexit means the average Briton wants to end any overseas commitments and once again be a self sufficient little island. Close to Europe but not involved in its problems.

  219. Seraphim says:
    @Skeptikal

    It seems that Schmutze is incapable to read anything else than the cloak and dagger novels of Docherty and Mac Gregor!

  220. Flipper says:
    @alwayswrite

    Yes,
    UNCLOS, its been around for over forty years, maybe you are too stupid to realize that the USA has not ratified it yet! You’re smart!

  221. FB says: • Website
    @Johnny Rico

    I’m not really in the market for anything by Suhkoi. Just something that can be delivered by Amazon in 2 or 3 days and has good customer service.

    You might be interested in one of these:

    Made in Korea too—so you know you’re getting topnotch gas dynamics technology!

  222. Excellent evaluation by Saker. (Very close to brilliant.)

  223. @Sean

    Why would Russia to bother themselves to fight US, is beyond me. US society is now beautifully rotting away by themselves. England follows.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  224. Alfred says:
    @mcohen

    russia is taking resources by force

    The people of Crimea overwhelmingly voted to rejoin Russia. Given a free referendum many provinces in the fake country “Ukraine” would prefer to rejoin Russia or Hungary or Slovakia. Poland would like to help itself to much of what is left. 🙂

    Due to the corruption and incompetence of the current (((rulers))) of Ukraine, the area that would vote to rejoin Russia is steadily growing. However, the Russians don’t want them. They only want to keep NATO out. The Russians always welcome skilled Ukrainian labour. Today, the best Ukrainian engineers are to be found in Russia.

    In 10 years, the Russians across the border will have twice the income of their Ukrainian neighbours. Talk about “Russian aggression” will sound ever more hollow. Already, the population of Crimea is reaping the benefit of massive investment in their infrastructure and consequent Russian tourism.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Blissex
  225. Lurker says:

    the Russians remember how the Brits declared a 200 miles zone around the Malvinas Islands (“Falklands” in UK parlance) and immediately sunk the cruiser General Belgrano as soon as it entered this zone.

    Not quite the same, there was an actual shooting war on.

  226. Lurker says:
    @Irish Savant

    With the added bonus that Britain can be blamed later on – the UK tail wagging the US dog.

  227. Seraphim says:
    @Rurik

    In August 1914 Max Bodenheimer, former President of the ZVfD (Zionistische Vereinigung fur Deutschlad) submitted to the German authorities a memorandum offering the full support for the war against Russia motivating it by ”Linguistic affinity for German and HATRED of Russia”, [that] would dispose the Jews to cooperate with the Central Powers”.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  228. 22pp22 says:
    @anon

    Actually, the Moslem predilection for banging their cousins means that it is they who are of limited intellect.

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israeli-students-consistently-behind-developed-world-study-shows-609729

    Interestingly, Israel is well on its way to acquiring a Christian market dominant minority.

  229. @Carroll Price

    England couldn’t defeat Scotland, if push comes to shove.

  230. @Sean

    Quite the cocky little shite, aren’t you. Do you figure that the Russians might have more than silo-bound ICBMs to retaliate and carbonise you and all the other Yankee Doodle blow-hards?

  231. @Quartermaster

    IMBECILE!!!!! Putin made Nudelman and the USA spend five billion installing a fascist, putschist, revanchist regime in Ukraine, through a ‘Colour Revolution’, did he? Why are fascists always so effing stupid?

    • Replies: @Herald
  232. @Seraphim

    Searapin,you’re just a bad loser you’ve gulped down to much Putin kool aid,the fact that you agree with the saker demonstrates to me that you’re mentally compromised

  233. @alwayswrite

    I checked the said incident in the mainstay of globalist propaganda; Wikipedia says that “On 12 February 1988, the Ticonderoga-class cruiser USS Yorktown, and the Spruance-class destroyer USS Caron, conducted an innocent passage exercise in the Black Sea.” But the very next line says, “With main armament pointed in the direction of the Soviet coastline,…”. The UNCLOS Art. 19 says, “Passage of a foreign ship shall be considered to be prejudicial to the peace, good order or security of the coastal State if in the territorial sea it engages in any of the following activities: (a) any threat or use of force against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of the coastal State”

    Some Innocent Passage.

  234. Schuetze says:
    @Rurik

    “You’re as well aware as anyone that Russia wasn’t being controlled by Russians in 1948, or the several decades up to it.”

    That is the rub. Either Russians were the vanguard of the talmudic bolsheviks who raped, murdered and enslaved all of eastern Europe and crushed their centuries old Christian religion, or Russians were the victims of these same satanic monsters. Russians cannot have it both ways. They cannot pride themselves for being at the heart of a new Christian awakening while claiming that they “freed” Eastern Europe from their own Christian roots.

    This is why all these claims of a new Russian Christian awakening do not ring true, especially when they are incessantly sabre rattling and threatening their neighbors with hypersonic nuclear weapons. Plus all along the baltic coast the remnants of the Red Russian Rapist Army threaten the historic peoples there with an occupation by the Red Army ala Crimea. I can hear it now, “Tallinn and Riga are Sacred Russian Territory and always will be”.

    Putin is a Zionist puppet, and all this bluster in the black sea is just a big show for useful idiots.

  235. Will the Russians Sink a British Ship the Next Time Around?

    One could only hope – it’s past due time for NATO to get a bleeding nose.

  236. There is a pattern here: western politicians make a lot of very loud statements; the Russians simply take whatever actions they deem necessary, which frees them from the need to make threats of roaring statements in the first place.

    When you have the firepower to take out any combination of NATO forces- you don’t really need advertisement.

  237. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    What an absolutely daft argument,that really does take the biscuit in terms of ‘ whataboutery’

    There should be a special award for such dumb nonsense,i’ll contact the Kremlin to see if they have anything in mind 😉

    Argentina invaded the Falklands,nobody,and absolutely nobody wanted to be governed by a military dictatorship from Argentina on those islands

    Gibraltar was ceded to Britain by the the Treaty of Utrecht in perpetuity

    The difference between those to examples and Crimea couldn’t be more different

    As for your other examples,i don’t care as they’re shit holes

  238. Jiminy says:
    @FB

    I read where the yanks are going to use the nazis’ favourite, the pulse jet to power new missiles. A bad case of back to the future. Who needs hypersonic when you can go put,put,put, put.
    Maybe it’s time Russia, China, Iran and any other member of the terrible axis of evil to hold a live televised symposium where they pose to the US and the jews questions such as just what will it take to get you off our backs- what would it take to see peace in this century? But of course it would never make the airwaves.

  239. @Zarathustra

    That’d be Russia your talking about,as its riddled with HIV/ AIDS its in poverty so women aren’t having kids,anyway the husband’s kick shit out of their women folk as most of them are constantly drunk on hydraulic fluids and moonshine,they’re in desperate state of mental health Putin doesn’t help as he propagates more terrifying propaganda about the ‘ outside world’ whoa,scary that outside world,Putin will be building a big wall soon to keep his precious Russians safe,but he better get a move on as Russian demographics are likely to hit all time loiw of about 110 million by 2050 Russia will be reduced to a bunch of old toothless babushkas as any decent person leaves,and most say they won’t be going back

    Russia doesn’t really exist its basically a vast prison colony run from Moscow,the Moskals scum are basically plundering the poor dumb Russian population,those who live in the regions are basically economic cannon fodder for Putin’s criminal regime

    Basically Russia is [email protected]#ked once Putin shuffles off this mortal coil

    • Troll: haha
  240. @Z-man

    So long as the cabal is protecting them there is not much the true English man can do to regain it but you never know what the future holds.

    P. S. And it’s the cabal (BoJo is part Turk and part Jew) that prefers the Turk in Constantinople than the Grrek because they both hate Christians in equal measures.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  241. Herald says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Why are fascists always so effing stupid?

    It’s the little known fourth law of thermodynamics.

  242. @Skeptikal

    Orlov lives in a fantasy world,and makes a living encouraging others to join him

    Orlov is just another angry bitter Russian,i bet he legs it back to America once Putin’s gone and Russia goes tits up

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  243. Blissex says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    «Trump recognized Israel’s annexation of the Golan, and Sleepy Joe doesn’t look as though he will reverse that. But Russia’s annexation of Crimea back by a referendum is outrageous!»

    There was no annexation of Crimea in 2014, that is just propaganda, the Autonomous Republic of Crimea ended their membership of the ukrainian state in 2014, as the UK ended their membership of the EU in 2016, and then applied to become a member of the russian federation, which application was supported by a referendum, just as Poland applied for membership of the EU.

    The real issue to be settled is the legitimacy of the forced annexation of Crimea by the Ukraine in 1954. That is the only basis for the ukrainian claims to the territory of Crimea. According to american propaganda that annexation in 1954 was legitimate, but somehow the sovereign declaration of the end of ukrainian membership, and the request for russian federation membership, were not.

    It is also little known that the Autonomous Republic of Crimea also applied for membership of the russian federation in 1994, but Yeltsin that time refused (many russian think he was a foreign puppet):

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26681653
    Because Mr Meshkov was the first – and so far only – president of Crimea. He was elected in 1994, by a landslide, on a platform of reuniting the Ukrainian peninsula with Russia. Like an eager suitor, he hopped on a plane to Moscow… only to find his overtures to Boris Yeltsin rebuffed. The Russian president was far too concerned with building a relationship with the West to stir up the kind of trouble that annexing Crimea would have brought.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
  244. Blissex says:
    @Alfred

    «The people of Crimea overwhelmingly voted to rejoin Russia.»

    Twice, because they voted to do so in 1994 too, as confirmed by even the UK propaganda:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26681653
    Because Mr Meshkov was the first – and so far only – president of Crimea. He was elected in 1994, by a landslide, on a platform of reuniting the Ukrainian peninsula with Russia. Like an eager suitor, he hopped on a plane to Moscow… only to find his overtures to Boris Yeltsin rebuffed.»

  245. Schuetze says:
    @alwayswrite

    Orlov may well end up in what is now Syria but will soon be Eretz Israel. He is a crypto-jew after all. What I haven’t figured out is what degree of family relationship he has with Alexander Orlov. I would assert that there are some facial similarities, and he certainly is arrogant enough. Alexander Orlov stole all of Spain’s gold and shipped it of to his satanic overlord, crypto-jew and Russian god, Joe Dzhugashvili (Stalin). Orlov also ritually sacrificed thousands of Spanish Catholics and Priests.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Orlov_(Soviet_defector)

  246. Rurik says:
    @Seraphim

    yep

    and that Jewish supremacist intractable hatred for Russia didn’t just disappear once Russia was fighting Germany.

    Perhaps the perfect metaphor for eternal Jewish rancor for Russians and Germans were the bullets from the Bolshevik guns that massacred the Russian Tsar, his German wife and their Russian / German children.

    Half Russian, half German, all Christian

    Butchering this family, along with everything they represented- both historically, and in every other way, really was the ultimate expression of the Jewish supremacist id over the people of Russia and Germany and beyond. They didn’t just murder a family, they murdered an ethos. They murdered the hope of a continent.

    Like Bibi blurting out about 9/11, “It’s very good”, the horrific slaughter of these children must have been orgiastic to every Jewish supremacist world-wide.

    I’m surprised they don’t make more movies about it, to jerk off to.

    The death of Hitler is so anti-climactic. A simple suicide of a man and his lover.

    But the Romanovs! And those beautiful children all ripped apart with bullets and bayonets, and screaming in a blood-drenched horror-fest. Wow, but that must give them tingles to this day! Like celebrating the Passover slaughter of Arab children, the murder of the Romanov children certainly is something they’ll celebrate for all time.

    And not just the horror and suffering of murdered Christian children, but especially what it all represented: The ultimate triumph of Zion over the Christian West, and Russia in particular.

    • Thanks: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  247. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    Actually, the Falklands/Crimea analogy is very appropriate……

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/the-peter-hitchens-column/ar-AALtZqs

    Because the Ukrainian claim to Crimea is very weak. The Russian claim to it is based, like our claim to the Falklands, on the desire of the inhabitants. And it is very strong.

    On January 20, 1991, the people of Crimea voted overwhelmingly (93 per cent of an 80 per cent turnout) for Crimean autonomy – that is, separating the peninsula from the direct authority of Ukraine.

    Most Crimeans are ethnic Russians and they have never wanted to be run by Ukraine. As Ukraine was still part of the Soviet Union, the vote had no effect, except to reveal how strong feeling was.

    In December 1991, Ukraine voted in a referendum to leave the Russian empire. Moscow rightly accepted this. The leaders of Ukraine were happy to win their own freedom by such a vote. But there was one rule for them and another for the Crimea.

    In early 1992, the pesky Crimeans collected 250,000 signatures (about ten per cent of the population) asking for a new referendum on separation from Ukraine. This was enough in law to trigger a vote, which was set for August 2. But the then Ukrainian president Leonid Kravchuk warned of possible ‘bloodshed’ if the vote went ahead. After enormous pressure on Crimea, the referendum was cancelled.

    Ukraine could vote itself out of Russia, but Crimea was not allowed to vote itself out of Ukraine. Do you think that fair or right? I don’t. It is the cause of Russia’s annexation of the Crimea in 2014.

  248. antibeast says:
    @Schuetze

    Putin is a Zionist puppet, and all this bluster in the black sea is just a big show for useful idiots.

    Nah, you’re just trying to discredit Putin who does not believe the West would start WWIII had the Russian Navy sunk the British warship in the Black Sea:

    According to Putin, the British may not agree to Russia’s de-jure sovereignty over Crimea, but the issue of the British warship intentionally crossing the territorial seas of Crimea is a provocative act which disrespects Russia’s de-facto sovereignty over Crimea.

  249. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    I might add that several polls conducted by Western outfits since the 2014 referendum have proven conclusively that the population of Crimea overwhelmingly wishes to continue to be part of Russia.

    From a poll conducted by Pew Research Center in 2014:

    Should the government in Kyiv recognize the results of the referendum in Crimea?

    Crimea residents: 88% YES/ 4% No / 7% Don’t know

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2014/05/08/despite-concerns-about-governance-ukrainians-want-to-remain-one-country/pg-2014-05-08-ukraine-russia-0-05/

    Would seem to pretty closely mirror the results of the referendum, yes?

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  250. Rurik says:
    @Schuetze

    That is the rub. Either Russians were the vanguard of the talmudic bolsheviks who raped, murdered and enslaved all of eastern Europe and crushed their centuries old Christian religion, or Russians were the victims of these same satanic monsters. Russians cannot have it both ways. They cannot pride themselves for being at the heart of a new Christian awakening while claiming that they “freed” Eastern Europe from their own Christian roots.

    that is a very valid point

    And one I keep repeating.

    The reason (((NATO))) is allowed to encroach right up to Russia’s womb, is because the Russian ego demands to be heralded both as the savior of Europe, and the victim of ((Bolshevik)) persecution.

    It doesn’t matter how factual anyone is when pointing out the Red Army did not liberate anyone, but rather imposed their own brand of imperial occupation upon the myriad victims of that Jewish supremacist-imposed World War.

    But for the tender and easily bruised Russian ego, they’ll shriek and holler to the ends of the world, that they saved Europe from Hitler! blah, blah..

    The truth is they’ve seen how Germans have had their faces mashed into the Jewish shit pile for endless generations now, and they simply don’t want to see the same thing done to Russia. So they cling (pathetically) to the idiocy that the Red Army rapists were ‘liberators’, and that Poland and Estonia and Ukraine should all honor >>hurl<< those Soviet monument atrocities that profane their homelands.

    This is why all these claims of a new Russian Christian awakening do not ring true, especially when they are incessantly sabre rattling and threatening their neighbors with hypersonic nuclear weapons.

    Now you’re getting off base.

    It isn’t Russia that’s doing the sabre rattling. It’s ((NATO)) that’s behind all of that.

    Russia is simply responding to the endless provocations of zion, who has been poking the Russian bear ever since Putin decided to prevent ZOG from doing a ‘Libya’ to Syria.

    And in so doing, Putin demonstrated that it isn’t all just for show. Saving the Assad government and the Syrian people from the fiend, was a very real and very good, Statesman-like thing to do! And by doing so, has brought the full weight and force of zion down on Russia’s head.

    Plus all along the baltic coast the remnants of the Red Russian Rapist Army threaten the historic peoples there with an occupation by the Red Army ala Crimea. I can hear it now, “Tallinn and Riga are Sacred Russian Territory and always will be”.

    It’s not the same. Crimea has ancient Russian ties. The people there want to align with Russia.

    Not so the Baltic states. Where a significant number of ethnic Russians are lingering from the time of the Soviet horrors and madness and ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Estonian people and others.

    The problem is that Russians are unwilling to understand that the Estonians, (for instance) don’t consider the population transfers and their ethno-replacement with Russians, to have been a good thing.

    Imagine that?!

    And ZOG sees it too. And so ZOG cynically tweaks these understandable hostilities between Eastern Europe and the Baltic states, vs. an unrepentant Russia.

    They’re using those open wounds to foment war, and that something I don’t want them to get away with.

    All Russia needs to do is send out the message that they’ll assist with the tearing down of the hated Soviet monuments, and leave it at that.

    No reparations, no population transfers of Russians back to Russia. The Russians in Estonia will learn to speak the native language, and assimilate into the culture, and there will be the peace.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  251. @Dnought

    Pew research should have more self respect than even bother to justify Putlers fake referendum in annexed Crimea,a part of Ukraine he actually invaded with his little green men which he denied at first but then admitted

    If you wanna see what Crimea is currently like under occupation I’d suggest you look up a website called Crimea SOS for the full and less than pleasant reality of what Moskal invaders bring

    And like I’ve mentioned before Russia own human rights council had a document leaked about the low numbers who actually turned out less than 50% possibly as low as 30% according to the Kremlin,not some western propaganda outfit,no wonder Putler purged his own human rights council,obviously he,like all other autocrats and dictators didn’t like the truth,about his Potemkin referendum

  252. @Rurik

    And in so doing, Putin demonstrated that it isn’t all just for show. Saving the Assad government and the Syrian from the fiend, was a very real and very good, Statesman-like thing to do!

    It puzzles me as to why Putin didn’t finish the job he started by putting Syria off-limits to Israeli bombing raids.

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
    , @Rurik
  253. The Book of Revelation warns: “Another came out, a fiery-colored horse, and it was granted to the one seated on it to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another, and he was given a great sword.” (6:4) This time it will be a world war not only by name. The “great sword” will also be used. Jesus characterized him in this way: “A frightening things both and extraordinary from sky powerful will be.” (Luke 21:11) Some ancient manuscripts contain the words “and frosts”. The Aramaic Peshitta: “and will be great frosts”. We call this today “nuclear winter”. In Mark 13:8 there are also words of Jesus: “and disorders” (in the sense of confusion and chaos). The Aramaic Peshitta: “and confusion” (on the state of public order). There will be also significant tremors along the length and breadth of the regions, food shortages and epidemics as a result of using this weapon. Jesus stated: “All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.” (Matthew 24:8) Is there any sense in speeding up this war?

    • Replies: @Kapyong
  254. @alwayswrite

    How long has Crimea belong to Russia?

    I believe the Russians in Crimea have a much greater claim on Crimea than (((Anthony Blinken)))….and the dingleberries called the US Joint Chiefs of Staff….

  255. FB says: • Website
    @Sean

    So, after shown to be a complete idiot of astonishing stupidity, you have the brass to come back mumbling some gibberish? About technical issues on which you have ZERO education or formal knowledge whatsoever?

    What an astounding imbecile!

    Now let’s discuss the ‘super dooper’ FUSE, lol! [Russia builds hypersonic missiles, the US builds…’super’ fuses, lol!]

    Now you are in luck, because I happened to have gotten the inside technical scoop, back in 2017 when this silly article first ran, on that ‘super fuse, from Prof Postol, who is listed on that article.

    [Btw, the ‘author’ Hans Kristensen is not a scientist, nor holds any kind of credentials in engineering or physics; remarkably he doesn’t even have a college degree in ANYTHING, not even humanities, lol! Here is his CV: he completed high school [called ‘Gymnasium’ in Europe, and roughly equivalent to junior college at best] and left school at age 20.]

    Anyway, I noticed some technical irregularities in that ‘article’ of his, so I asked Prof Postol about this ‘super fuse.’

    Well, it turns out that some ‘genius’ in the US nuke-design ‘program’ decided to add the worst possible thing that you could think of for an ICBM—namely to add a radio device.

    This is never done, for the simple reason that any radio device can be easily JAMMED, or even SPOOFED, by means of electronic countermeasures [ECM].

    For that reason, ICBMs use self-contained guidance systems called inertial navigation system [INS], which is based on gyroscope hardware that cannot be interfered with in any way by an outside source.

    Even run-of-the-mill cruise missiles, like the Tomahawk, use INS as the primary guidance method, and only use radio devices like GPS in a secondary role to improve accuracy in the final stages of the flight near the target—although this is easily disabled by any moderately sophisticated adversary because GPS signals are incredibly easy to jam—even amateur radio hackers can do this. This is because the radio signal from GPS is very weak, due to the high orbit of the sats [about 20,000 km].

    Even commercial passenger jets use INS as the primary guidance and do not need to rely on GPS, except as an additional, secondary source of data.

    The radio device on the super fuse is a radio altimeter, which is used on aircraft to give a measurement of the aircraft height above ground level. This is used only in the approach to landing phase of flight, since the primary flight instrument is the altimeter, which works by measuring outside air pressure and displays an altitude reading as above sea level [MSL, for mean sea level], not distance to the ground.

    This device is essentially a very small radar, with a down-facing small antenna that is placed in such a way that it is not covered by a material [like the aircraft’s metal skin] that blocks the radio waves. That’s why the nose cones of aircraft, both military and civil, are made from plastic-composite materials that allow radio waves to pass through freely.

    So here is the first major problem with this scheme. Below is a picture of W87 warheads being placed on a carrier ‘bus’ which releases them while the rocket is still outside the atmosphere. The warheads then simply fall to earth like a rock, on a ballistic trajectory. [Unlike a hypersonic missile which is able to MANEUVER.]

    [MORE]

    You can see that they are cone-shaped and made of heat-resistant material to protect it from the extremely high heat of atmospheric reentry. Such heat-shielding is a major technical challenge on any reentry vehicle, such as spacecraft or warheads.

    An ICBM warhead will reenter the atmosphere at 6 to 7 km/s [about 15,000 mph], which results in intense skin-friction heating as the warhead descends into the progressively denser levels of the atmosphere.

    So right there is a question of how do you make a radio antenna able to survive that? Any plastic-composite covering over the antenna would obviously not survive that kind of heat load.

    Another issue is the fact that the warhead is given a spin when it is launched from the bus. This gives it gyroscopic stability and prevents it from tumbling, and thereby missing the target by a huge distance.

    Here again is a practical matter. A radar antenna must be continuously pointed at its target [the ground in this case] in order to work. How do you do that with a spinning warhead?

    Yet another issue arising from the heat is that the re-entering vehicle creates a plasma in the surrounding, superheated air, which prevents radio waves from penetrating. This happens on every spacecraft reentry and results in RADIO BLACKOUT, until the craft slows down enough for the heat to dissipate. Plasma is simply a gas [like air] with an electric charge. It happens at extremely high air temperatures because the air molecules literally fall apart from the heat [dissociation] and lose an electron, giving the air an electric charge and blocking radio waves from penetrating.

    So, clearly this scheme is nonsensical to say the least—at least to people familiar with the science of reentry physics. And that’s not even to mention that, even if it could be made to work somehow, it would be a simple matter to use ECM to jam or spoof that radio altimeter as it approaches the Russian ICBM silos.

    To explain a little further on how this is supposed to be a ‘big deal’ [lol!], the radio altimeter is supposed to be able to tell the bomb to detonate before it is programmed to do so in the INS. The INS simply gives the two-dimensional geographic coordinates of the target [latitude and longitude]. It has no idea of its height.

    Now imagine if the warhead is coming in a little higher than ideal, it will obviously miss the target by flying past it some distance. This is of course part and parcel of the overall accuracy of the ICBM, which is called the circular error probable, which is given as a distance like 100 meters. It’s actually elliptical, because the miss is more likely to be in the direction of falling short or overshooting, rather than side-to-side. Technically this is called downrange and siderange error.

    The idea is that if the warhead is going to miss by going long on the downrange side, then the altimeter fuse can trigger the explosion before it sails right over the silo. Of course if it is missing by coming up short, there is no point in triggering it beforehand so it is useless in 50 percent of the statistical downrange errors!

    Obviously it is also useless in the siderange errors, since the best place to detonate is obviously when it is closest to the lat-long target coordinate. So the bottom line is that if this ridiculous scheme can actually be functional, it would only apply to 25 percent of the missed shots.

    I can just imagine the howls of laughter at the Russian Ministry of Defense General Staff when they read this article, lol!

    In any case, the Russians are now about to roll out the S500, which is specifically designed to intercept ICBMs. Also the existing missile defense system around Moscow, the A135, which has been active for more than 25 years, and consists of 68 launchers [each with 12 to 16 missiles] is now being updated to the A235 version. It is designed to intercept warheads as far as 3,000 km away, and at a height of 900 km!

    This is the FASTEST interceptor rocket ever flown, flying at a speed of 5 km/s [11,000 mph, an incredible Mach 17]. Here is a recent test in Kazakshtan.

    As for US ‘missile defense’ we may recall with hilarity how Kim Jong seemed decidedly nonplussed as he sailed missile after missile over the heads of the US ‘missile defense’ fleet in the Sea of Japan!

    This is the much-touted Aegis ‘ballistic missile defense’ system, which consists of 33 US ships of the missile cruiser and destroyer class, plus four Jap ships. Seventeen of those US ‘missile defense’ ships are in the US Pacific Fleet, and did a heck of a job SPECTATING as Mighty Kim just kept sailing those missiles overhead, one after the other, and even over Japan, lol!

    Now one would think that the US would use this golden opportunity to shoot down one of these DPRK missiles? Especially considering that most of those flights were not ICBMs, but merely intermediate-range ballistic missiles, which fly a lot slower. It says specifically on the ‘label’ that Aegis is ‘developed to provide missile defense against short to intermediate-range ballistic missiles.’

    Yet, these ‘missile defense’ ships never even attempted an intercept!

    How odd is that? Such a demonstration of military prowess of actually and provably destroying an enemy’s ballistic missile in flight would be a huge message to Moscow—on the order of the shock and awe of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings!

    Hmm. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the US ‘missile defense’ is unable to even intercept a Houthi missile that is an Iranian knockoff of 1950s Soviet Scud?

    At around 9 p.m., about the same time debris crashed in Riyadh, a loud bang shook the domestic terminal at Riyadh’s King Khalid International Airport.

    ‘There was an explosion at the airport,’ a man said in a video taken moments after the bang. He and others rushed to the windows as emergency vehicles streamed onto the runway.

    It turns out that the Houthi Scud flew right over the Patriot ‘missile defenses,’ which fired five times and missed!

    Laura Grego, a missile expert at the Union of Concerned Scientists, expressed alarm that Saudi defense batteries had fired five times at the incoming missile.

    ‘You shoot five times at this missile and they all miss? That’s shocking,’ she said. ‘That’s shocking because this system is supposed to work.’

    Oh well. Looks like even Yemeni tribesmen are more than a match for US ‘missile defense’ LOLOLOL!

    The complete story in The New York Times, Dec 4, 2017: Did American Missile Defense Fail in Saudi Arabia?

    And btw, Laura Grego is REAL scientist, with a physics PhD from Caltech, unlike our ‘junior college’ friend Mr Kristensen, upon whom the clowns of disneyland rely…LOLOLOL!

    Here’s the bottom line: The US is the undisputed leader in bragging and VAPORWARE!

    Does anyone think the Russians don’t know the full story by now? Magic ‘super fuses’ [brought to us by junior college ‘specialists’ like Hans Kristensen] and ‘missile defense’ that appears to be nothing more than a cardboard mockup, kind of give the game away, lol!

    Here is Putin talking just today about sinking a ship that violates Russian waters:

    ‘Even if we sunk that British warship, it would not start WW3, because the west knows they cannot win that war!’

    And here is the British tabloid reaction, lol! ‘Fighting Talk…Putin boasts…blablabla, lol!

    Hopefully you have learned something, kncuklehead. ‘Super fuses’ from a Paper Tiger do not impress anyone.

    We will soon see how things play out if the big-talking US and its little heel-nippers actually screw together enough gumption to start something with the Russians.

    Most of the world is waiting with the popcorn. Well past time for these delusional bubbles to be burst!

    • Agree: TheJamesRocket
    • Thanks: Alfred
  256. @Schuetze

    “You’re as well aware as anyone that Russia wasn’t being controlled by Russians in 1948, or the several decades up to it.”

    That is the rub. Either Russians were the vanguard of the talmudic bolsheviks who raped, murdered and enslaved all of eastern Europe and crushed their centuries old Christian religion, or Russians were the victims of these same satanic monsters. Russians cannot have it both ways. They cannot pride themselves for being at the heart of a new Christian awakening while claiming that they “freed” Eastern Europe from their own Christian roots.

    As I see it, you could say the same thing about contemporary America. How can America be both the vanguard of the satanic jewish collective – doing jew dirty work all over the world – and the victim of the satanic jewish collective at the same time? Part of the answer is that it’s “America” not America.

    When you have a mix involving jews, non-jewish ideologues and opportunists of various stripes – struggling for control of the state apparatus – supported by masses of order-followers, patriots, nationalists, etc., in various states of benightedness, it makes for a complicated situation, IMO. So I think the rub is that for at least part of 20th century history, it was “Russia” and “Russians” rather than Russia and Russians.

    • Agree: Alfred
  257. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Moore

    And Kosovo too.a fake narco state created to move US drugs just like they did in Afghanistan and Vietnam

  258. Anon[351] • Disclaimer says:

    Regarding the comment in the side bar about the British denial. I strongly suspect that that was for domestic purposes so that the incident could be played down here in the UK. The aim in the end is to force Russia into opening fire directly on a British ship next time. THAT most definitely won’t be played down.

    As for the ‘discovery’ of the dossier at a bus stop. Does it really seem likely that such a thing was a mistake? There is clearly a split in the British hierarchy and one faction wishes to undermine the other.

    The Saker does adopt a rather shrill feminised tone when he writes about these things.

  259. @Carroll Price

    Putin didn’t do what you’re suggesting because he’s best mates with the Israeli establishment and that’s because Israel really don’t want to embarrass him when they smash all Putin so called super weapons,plus if Assad got those terrorist head bangers from Iran out of his country then he wouldn’t get bombed nearly every week

    Putin didn’t do anything in Syria apart from kill a bunch of innocent people and save his military bases,which apparently he can now dominate the whole world from because he’s got a couple of ancient MiG jets with some sort of mashup hypersonic missile system,what a joke!

    • LOL: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @TheJamesRocket
  260. @Blissex

    Yes, the USSR in effect re-allocated Crimea to Ukraine both because the main way to access it from land is via Ukraine and because the Soviet government wanted to make a symbolic gesture designed to erode the Ukrainian national consciousness which had very much been on display during WW II.

    Both Russia and Ukraine were under the highly centralized control of Moscow (despite fig leaves like Ukraine’s seat in the UN) and no one could imagine a day when that would not be so, so it seemed purely symbolic. It is misleading to call the 1954 act a “forced annexation of Crimea by Ukraine.”

    What you say is technically correct as far as it goes but hardly tells the whole story. The “treaty” of 18 March 2014 between Russia and the leadership of Crimea, following soon after the referendum, was effectively an annexation.

    Neither the referendum nor the treaty could never have taken place without Russian military action to occupy Crimea. Putin calculated that he would get a majority of the votes in a referendum, and that is what ultimately happened. But once Russia went into Crimea, Crimea was going to become part of Russia one way or another. Despite some complaints about Russian nationals being allowed to vote in the referendums it appears that the majority of Crimeans did want to join the RF.

    The invasion of Crimea by Russian troops was certainly illegal but was significantly mitigated (for me at least) by the fact that it came in response to the illegal overthrow of the elected Ukrainian government of Yanukovich and by the reality of majority support in Crimea for reversion to Russia.

    It’s not propaganda to classify Ukraine’s reversion to control by the Russian state as an annexation. It becomes propagandistic when the facts are selectively arranged to portray the action as evil

  261. Kapyong says:
    @Ewiak Ryszard

    “The Book of Revelation warns: ”

    So what?
    Means nothing.

  262. @FB

    Oh FB,that video did make me laugh,you know the one from the Sun newspaper

    The Russian bloke who filmed must have had to much vodka as he couldn’t really keep the camera straight 😂😂😂😂😂

    either that or he was shitting his pants with fear,after all it can’t have been because the sea was rough

    But seriously this is the pathetic attempts of propaganda by the FSB oh dear 😂😂😂😂😅😅😅

    All of this so Putin can blather to his impoverished and increasingly repressed population all of this is reminiscent of the daft shite Russian came out with after the 1988 so called Bumping in the black sea incident,as I’ve read the Russian accounts from that incident it seems to me Putin must have found the script and Soviet propaganda from back then and simply recycled it because it sounded delusional then and Putin sounds just as delusional and desperate now

    One last thing after that incident back in 1988 the Soviets didn’t have long to last,lets hope history repeats itself,with a bit of luck Putin and his ghastly regime could be gone in the same time frame 😜😜😜😝

  263. @War for Blair Mountain

    History lesson:

    Crimea

    John Paul Jones buried at Annapolis…..

    They dug John Paul Jones’s corpse up a hundred years later and photographed it….his long hair was still intact…..go google the photo…

    Crimea doesn’t belong to (((ANTHONY BLINKEN)))

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  264. @Oscar Peterson

    Russia was invading itself….so why was it illegal?

  265. Sean says:
    @FB

    Background to the Nicholas Wade lab leak article in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. Namely, that journal published a prediction of a lab leak pandemic several years before.

    https://thebulletin.org/2012/08/the-unacceptable-risks-of-a-man-made-pandemic/
    The unacceptable risks of a man-made pandemic
    By Lynn C. Klotz, Edward J. Sylvester | August 7, 2012

    The third is severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, a newcomer that proved how lethal it could be in one natural outbreak during 2002 and 2003, when it killed 9.6 percent of those it infected, a fatality rate almost four times higher than the 1918 flu’s. […]

    So it has a lot of credibility with me.

  266. @War for Blair Mountain

    Whaaaaaaat !!!!! Not john paul jones,the best guitarist from Led Zeppelin ?

  267. @alwayswrite

    The other one who had very long hair…go google the photo of the Annapolis exhumation……

  268. @22pp22

    ” And the refugee crisis began long before 2015.”

    And NATO was largely responsible for that chaos too….

  269. You can just feel it in your bones….The USS Homosexual Pederast commanded by Captain Sheboon redolent in her nasty body odor sailing through the Kerch Straight sent to the bottom of the Black Sea after being hit by a hypersonic missile….to the bottom of the Black Sea with its homosexual pederast crew-Retired Three Star Admiral Mike Mullin’s new US Navy….Mullin’s Navy!!!

    The US Navy…a Global Force for Homosexual Filth and Disease….

    See your Navy Recruiter’s sphincter today!!!

    • LOL: Schuetze
  270. Rurik says:
    @Carroll Price

    complicated realpolitik I suppose

  271. @Schuetze

    Yes, Britain has been a Jewish colony, but it was after Cromwell and the “Glorious Revolution”. Britain worked hard to break the Russian-German relationship, and the Tsar took the bait. As for who started WWI, I think this says it all: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706589/Find-reason-war-Germany-Shocking-letter-documents-King-George-V-urged-foreign-secretary-justify-conflict-two-days-outbreak-First-World-War.html
    The “Black Hand” Serbians who assassinated Franz Ferdinand were allegedly under Zionist control, just as Churchill was pre WWII, and Bojo the Clown is today.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  272. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @Quartermaster

    Those are Ukrainian waters, not Russian.

    I double checked using Ask Google Yid.

    The Ukrainian waters are urinary waters from
    Nuland and Hunter. Can be wrung from sheets.

    Wear Phony Bolony Corony gloves.

    5 dancing shlomos

  273. @alwayswrite

    Putin didn’t do what you’re suggesting because he’s best mates with the Israeli establishment and that’s because Israel really don’t want to embarrass him when they smash all Putin so called super weapons,plus if Assad got those terrorist head bangers from Iran out of his country then he wouldn’t get bombed nearly every week

    Stop kissing Israels ass, you pathetic shill. Israel wasn’t in a position to do jack shit against Syria when it received Russian support. They and the Americans tried to use Isis as a proxy to bring down Assad, but their strategy failed miserably when Putin intervened. Their only real chance of destroying Syria was in late 2012, when Obama warned that the (alleged) use of chemical weapons were a ‘red line’ that would result in American intervention. But of course, he never followed up his words with any action. And when Russia moved its forces into Syria in late 2015, the outcome of the war was decided.

    The Jewish controlled media relentlessly castigated Obama for his failure to act against Assad, and they screamed in impotent rage when Putin waged war against Isis. Israel did everything in its power to help its proxy force, but they failed. They lost the war. Their abominable plan to destroy Syria and partition its territory had failed miserably.

    Putin didn’t do anything in Syria apart from kill a bunch of innocent people and save his military bases,which apparently he can now dominate the whole world from because he’s got a couple of ancient MiG jets with some sort of mashup hypersonic missile system,what a joke!

    The only joke here is you, trying to shill for Israel. Its time to face facts: Assad won the Syrian civil war, and he did it with Putins help. The Russians defeated not only Isis, but the American and Israeli teams supporting them. There were direct encounters between the two sides, who fought a kindof secret war against each other. The most notable incident was on September 20 2016, when the Russians fired three Kalibr missiles at a command center near Mount Simeon, killing 30 Israeli, American, and British operatives.

    Incidentally, those same Kalibr missiles are now carried by Russian aircraft operating out of Syrian bases. They have enough range and speed to strike warships in the Eastern Mediterranean, and turn it into a killing field.

  274. FB says: • Website

    Hans ‘Junior College’ Kristensen has nothing to do with the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, other than getting that article published in there, probably due to Prof Postol’s pull, whom he seems to have managed to bamboozle with that ‘super fuse’ bullshit, lol!

    Kristensen works for the Federation of American Scientists [while not actually being any kind of a scientist], which is simply a goody ‘think tank,’ largely funded the McArthur Foundation.

    The Bulletin does publish various claptrap, including that lab-leak nonsense from the writer and non-scientist Nicholas Wade. The Wade article has made many major TECHNICAL mistakes on the actual science and is debunked here and in many other places, by prominent scientists, REAL ones!

    Covid Lab Leak Science Debunked

    Wade proves the classic trope that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. His essay is exactly that — a dangerous thing.

    That site is run by actual medical doctors.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  275. Seraphim says:
    @Rurik

    People turn a blind eye to the simple fact that the ‘neo-cons’ are the spawn of the professed (and professional) haters of Russia. Their rage is amplified by the realization that despite all their efforts and resources thrown into the battle to destroy Russia and Orthodoxy, Russia raised from her ashes and denied their ‘triumph’. The victors are the royal neo-martyrs.

  276. haha says:
    @Sean

    “Because of improvements in the killing power of US submarine-launched ballistic missiles, those submarines now patrol with more than three times the number of warheads needed to destroy the entire fleet of Russian land-based missiles in their silos.”

    You silly twit, if it was so easy to take out Russian defenses it would have been done a long time ago. Some semblance of peace exists because of rough parity in the forces of destruction in the hands of both sides. Have you heard of MAD? It stands for mutually assured destruction, aka as willy-nilly peace.

  277. haha says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    “The invasion of Crimea by Russian troops was certainly illegal…”

    Oh, oh, I missed that one. How many tanks were deployed, how many tons of bombs dropped, and how many babies killed in their cradles? How come CNN, ABC, NBC, BBC and all did not cover that war?

  278. haha says:
    @FB

    Loved your response to Sean. “It’s almost hard to believe that the human gene pool, as polluted as it has become, could come up with an idiot of your magnitude.” LOL!!

    BTW, you followed up with an excellent account of Soviet/Russian technical advances, packing-in a lot of detail. But I doubt it will be heard or understood by those you addressed it to, namely, idiots of high magnitude.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Thanks: FB
  279. @FB

    Were you home-schooled? I mean, I’m not saying you are retarded. The results are actually surprisingly good.

    Clearly they have increased your computer hours. Keep up the good work. Soon they will let you use metal silverware.

  280. @FB

    Are those the same actual medical doctors who are running around in your head at night?

    Remember, FB, it is okay to talk to yourself, just don’t interrupt.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @antibeast
  281. FB says: • Website
    @Johnny Rico

    Look Gasbag,

    Talking out of your ass is funny and all—but it’s getting a little stale at this point, kapish?

  282. Sean says:
    @haha

    The USSR was once defenceless and nothing happened. When America was the only country with a nuclear weapons it did not threaten to use or use its thermonuclear monopoly to prevent the Soviet Union from ever developing its own nukes, although John Von Neuman and Bertrand Russel both advocated that aforementioned course of action. Russia has never been taken seriously by the American Deep State, because they know how much help including fighters and tank was shipped from Britain and America to Stalin to fight Nazi Germany. While the Soviets’ may have grumbled e about the quality there can be no cavil over the 400,000 new US trucks they received.

    Conventional wisdom asserts that the Soviet Union made the decisive contribution to Allied victory in the great land battles fought on the Eastern Front. The core reason for this “extraordinary consensus”, O’Brien asserts, “is the underlying assumption that manpower in armies is the determining measure of national effort”. To the contrary, what was truly decisive was the role of America and Britain in achieving predominance in air and sea power, and it was this that destroyed Germany’s and Japan’s ability to fight effectively and led to their defeat.

    What won the war were not battles in the conventional sense of engagements limited in time and space, but what O’Brien terms “super-battles”, in which the UK and US fought an air and sea war on battlefields thousands of miles in length and breadth, areas that dwarfed the land war and which allowed for a far more systematic destruction of German and Japanese weaponry and munitions than was achieved by conventional battles.

    America knew it could win a conventional WW3, and the Soviet leadership understood it too; there was no need to conquer Russia by using the nuclear monopoly while it existed. In the eighties America cut off technology and Russia collapsed under the strain of trying to match the US’s defence high tech initiatives. China is not playing those games, but is a source of profit (on papar) which is why America is handing over all its know-how.

  283. R.C. says:

    As for the Brits, they are clearly suffering from phantom pains for their lost empire.

    Needless to say, the Russians openly made fun of the Brits saying that “007 agents agents aren’t what they used to be”. F

    😀 😀
    Love it.
    The Saker nails it again!
    R.C.

    • Replies: @Sean
  284. R.C. says:

    Anyone remember when a Russian jet did a flyby on some US ship (as I recall) and shut all of its electronics down?
    There’s also that.
    R.C.

  285. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-after-russia-annexed-crimea-locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev/?sh=646f0223510d

    So I guess Forbes, the Washington Post, Pew Research, Peter Hitchens and GfK Polling are all tools of the Kremlin? Gee, how does Evil Genius Putin™ manage all this? Bribery? Blackmail? Hallucinogenic drugs in their respective offices’ water coolers?

    Crimean SOS? An obscure and obvious Ukrainian disinfo site? They don’t even bother to try to hide it. That’s your source of info on public opinion in Crimea?

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  286. antibeast says:
    @Johnny Rico

    Tell that to poster ‘Sean’ who seems to exhibit schizoid behavior, periodically mumbling about his delusions of grandeur while feeling threatened by his own spasms of paranoia. That guy needs to see his shrink or else take his meds.

  287. Sean says:
    @R.C.

    British secret agents are not assassins. Britain has stability because it makes more more mistakes while its political system allows for error correction, thereby leaving behind stagnant countries with leadership set in stone because they are convinced they know what works.

    https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1409565368402776076
    Pinned Tweet
    Phillips P. OBrien
    @PhillipsPOBrien
    ·
    May 10
    Intrigued by how people denigrate what the French had to face in 1940 while forgetting that the French were fighting a more powerful Wehrmacht than was used to attack the USSR in 1941. Yes you have heard that right. France had to fight a stronger Germany than the Russians!

    Losses against the RAF and the substantial Luftwaffe assets sent with the the Afrika Korp meant the German’s air support in Barbarossa was surprisingly weak. Also, the planes the Germans used in the East with considerable success were older models such as the Stuka and BF 110 that were massacred by the RAF in the Battle of Britain through lacking the speed and agility for facing the world’s most advanced air force. Professor O’Brien also says Britain had brought the convoy system to such perfection that Enigma (enabling routing the convoys away from U-Boat) was probably just saving the German subs from being destroyed while attempting the impossible

    • Agree: Johnny Rico
    • Replies: @Alfred
  288. @Sean

    In July 1947, as part of war plan Broiler, the US plotted dropping nukes on Russia, including seven on Moscow, killing millions. Similar planning was made in war plan Halfmoon, based on Broiler, in 1948, with nukes to be used from the outset, but Truman objected to their use. The US military decided to ignore Truman and further plans to use nukes were drawn up, and an updated version of Halfmoon, called Trojan, was issued in January 1949, and 70 Soviet cities were targeted with 133 war-heads, and approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    Then there was Offtackle, drawn up with Canada and the UK, in September to October 1949, where the number of nukes to be used was increased to 292. As ever, Sean is full of shite, even more evidenced in his LUNATIC assertion that air war won WW2, and ground operations were irrelevant. Yankee Doodle onanism.

    • Thanks: antibeast
  289. @haha

    Sean is a sub-fascist jingo, who apparently has no knowledge of the S500 missile defence, mobile ICBMs, Russian subs or the various hypersonic weapons outlined by Putin. A wanker in every sense.

    • Agree: Alfred, antibeast, FB
    • Replies: @haha
  290. @FB

    Well said. Sean is a disgrace and embarrassment to the insect class.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Sean
  291. Schuetze says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Interesting dailymail article. Just as with the Lusitania, proof keeps rolling in that England wanted both wars more than any other country besides Judea. Of course both Stalin and Nicholas wanted more war for empire, and both wanted the Dardenelles. France was drooling over Alsace and Syria before WWI, and in WWII France wanted the Rhineland and to keep Germany down. The real truth here is that Germany didn’t want either World War, both of them were caused by the “Allies”. It is ironic that England, France and the US were even willing to join with the Judeo-Bolsheviks in order to crush Germany. The entire planet is still paying for this greed and treachery to this day.

    The Black Hand was financed by Russia who was looking to start a war with Austria in the Balkans and the middle east and grab the Dardenelles from Turkey, “the sick man of Europe”. That Russian, Austrian and English court Jews and Zionists were also involved in the plot to murder the Archduke, crush Austria, and start the war I have little doubt.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  292. Sean says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Just as in WW2 when it did the heavy lifting for them, Britain’s role as number one facilitator for Muscovy continues. Fiona Hill, ex White House Russia advisor “Russia has managed to turn London, & all kinds of people who work in it, into one of their instruments. Billions of £s have been brought into London by oligarchs working with the Kremlin”. Wise choice, their money needs to be with people they know they can trust in a stable country, because who knows what will happen after Putin departs. Hill is co author of an interesting book

    Russia’s geography, history, and monumental mistakes perpetrated by Soviet planners have locked it into a dead-end path to economic ruin. Shattering a number of myths that have long persisted in the West and in Russia, The Siberian Curse explains why Russia’s greatest assets––its gigantic size and Siberia’s natural resources––are now the source of one its greatest weaknesses. For seventy years, driven by ideological zeal and the imperative to colonize and industrialize its vast frontiers, communist planners forced people to live in Siberia. […] Russian leaders still believe that an industrialized Siberia is the key to Russia’s prosperity. As a result, the country is burdened by the ever-increasing costs of subsidizing economic activity in some of the most forbidding places on the planet. […] Russia’s future prosperity requires that it finally throw off the shackles of its Soviet past, by shrinking Siberia’s cities. Only by facilitating the relocation of population to western Russia, closer to Europe and its markets, can Russia achieve sustainable economic growth.

    As we can see the most capable Russian don’t stop at Western Russia they keep going until they reach London, where the doctor will see you without a bribe and only declare you dead if you actually are dead.

    Russia report: ‘Londongrad’ became ‘laundromat’ for Russian money according to senior MPs. One hundred billion dollars since 2019, plus sweet deals on resource extraction projects. Don’t believe all you read about Russia being in conflict with Britain. The smart money isn’t.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  293. Alfred says:
    @Sean

    British secret agents are not assassins

    Many years ago. I cannot give the details as I don’t want to expose this guy to retribution. The British Official Secrets Act (1989) is draconian. Anyway, this guy used to be a customs officer at a major London airport. He, and his colleagues, were told when not to interfere with certain males arriving from obscure countries. This happened shortly after political assassinations in these countries – killings that were a little too convenient to the British and their overlords.

    Here is the modern American version. Leaders put in place by the West never seem to suffer from these afflictions.

    Over 18 months period four progressive leaders of Latin America and their fellow citizens were shocked by the diagnosis delivered by their physicians – cancer. Fernando Lugo, Luis Inacio Lula da Silva, Hugo Chavez, and recently Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner were given this diagnosis. The Presidents of Paraguay, Brazil, Venezuela and Argentina suspiciously simultaneously turned out on the verge of survival.

    CIA infects South American leaders with cancer?

  294. @Dnought

    What were those polling figures?

    About 95% prefer Russian annexing Crimea a year later,well simple answer is Putin basically ethnically cleansed the place,so you’re only left with ethnic Russians,or terrified the others into accepting the outcome so they basically go along with the whole thing in a rather apathetic way

    Peter Hitchens is a pro kremlin idiot,thats pretty obvious,he’s a former Trotskyist,now trying terribly hard to be a conservative,not a safe source of any unbiased information about Russian foreign policy

    All polling and referendum in Crimea are suspect,i dont care who under takes them,and like I’ve said before, even the kremlins own human rights council disputes the actual figures for the referendum,and for me thats the most telling fact not what WaPo writes because frankly just doing a quick search will tell you the fantastic range of headlines they’ve produced since Putin’s invasion

    Anyway I’ll break my rule because i like a bit of fun and leave you to peruse my next offering;

    Kharkiv Human Rights Protection Group…. As they say enjoy 😂😂😂😂

    • Replies: @Dnought
    , @Zarathustra
    , @Farhad
  295. Sean says:
    @Alfred

    Of late Putin has looked under the weather though he is teetotal; some say he has cancer and/or Parkinson’s. President Putin has a cryotherapy chamber, which is a sort of cold bath effect therapy, (Loren Cordain advocated) but more comfortable. Not sure about that route

    The ABCs Of Why Bats Rarely Get Cancer The low incidence of cancer in bats can be attributed to high ABCB1 gene expression Read more from Asian Scientist Magazine at: https://www.asianscientist.com/2019/07/in-the-lab/bat-cancer-abcb1-dna-damage/

    When the researchers blocked ABCB1 activity in bat cells, they observed the accumulation of toxic chemicals, which led to DNA damage and cell death. “Our findings reveal that the transportation of toxic drugs out of the system protects bat cells from DNA damage, which may contribute to their low cancer incidence”

    ABCB1 is expressed in sweat glands which intuitively makes sense, with saunas and their known effects. But ADCD1 is not all good because cancer fights chemotherapy by inducing expression of the Abcb1 drug transporter in tumors (to pump out the anti cancer drugs presumably). Because bats hibernate (which entails having a very low body temperature for that part of the year) they are terribly vulnerable to fungi, but most mammals have not problems with fungi because they are warm blooded. Fungi are what killed off the cold blooded dinosaurs after dust thrown up by the big asteroid hit and blocked out the sun.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @anon
  296. T.Rebon says:
    @Sean

    America knew it could win a conventional WW3

    For sure, as it “won” in Afghanistan, Vietnam, Somalia … . America (imo it’s a continent maybe you address the UShithole) is the only party that used nuclear weapons in an “conventional” war. Simply because they can.

    Now others can do too, and will. But imo the end of civilisation comes from, maybe self replicating, drone hords. That’s much cheaper.

    • Replies: @Sean
  297. T.Rebon says:
    @haha

    if it was so easy to take out Russian defenses it would have been done a long time ago.

    why answer such an obvious dumb comment? You can’t do it because a lot can move and you never know all launch pads.

    The whole discussion is nothing more than brainless stupid nonsense. Nobody ever cared on moral or law if he can get a territory. Neither the Mongols The Russians, the now US Americans, the Spain or wherever you look.

    All of them have noble goals and the highest morals, the best reasons and some history, “the law” or religion behind them. All have stopped at the primitive level of a stone-age clan.

    That is also the reason why Israel is so hated here. The country holds a (non exclusive) mirror up to the US Americans.

  298. Nick102 says:
    @FB

    Thanks, FB, this is a very educational post.

    • Thanks: FB
  299. @Alfred

    Never thought about the others but I wondered if Chavez was poisoned. Washington absolutely hated his guts. It reached a fever pitch when he had his cou try deliver oil to poor minority commu nities in the US for winter heating. Then the next thing you know – drops dead from cancer.

    And while not an official – certainly with great i fluence over the third world – the singer Bob Marley. Used to speak out against the hegemon and drops dead with cancer in his 30’s – first collapsing in NYC while jogging. Strange.

  300. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Yes. Russia also will have a little thing called vast fertile lands and thus FOOD which hundreds of millions of people in China, India, or Africa will starve without.

    So, to back up the other commenter, other than grains and meats to live on, and fossil fuels to run a modern life, Russia has nothing anyone would want 😉

  301. @Schuetze

    You appear to be referring to atrocities committed by soldiers from Russia and other nationalities in the service of the USSR and its revenge against Germans/Austrians. If so, that was 76 years ago.

    I’m sure that Russians would be glad to compare the number of people murdered abroad by their current government, the Russian Federation — which has existed for about thirty years — since 1990, compared to the number of people murdered abroad by the US government during those same three decades. Would you like to offer some numbers on that topic?

    Lastly, there is no “Red Army” anymore, because thankfully there is no Soviet Union anymore.

    We probably agree, however, that the US government should not have aided the USSR against Germany and its allies. The US should have stayed out of that war.

  302. @Schuetze

    I’m glad that Soviet communism is gone, and I think that the US government should have stayed neutral in WW2 rather than join on the side of the Soviets.

    But Russia started WW2 and is going to start WW3? Come on.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  303. Dnought says:
    @alwayswrite

    The only ethnic cleansing that occurred in Crimea was during WW II when Stalin/Beria deported about 250 K Tatars due either to Stalin’s infamous paranoia, or the Tatar’s suspect loyalties (joining the SS), depending on who you ask (some later returned after Stalin died).

    Regardless, obviously it occurred 70 years before the 2014 referendum. By the time of that referendum, only about 12% of Crimea’s population was Tatar.

    Most of those “headlines” you refer to are either from Ukrainian-funded sources, or are regurgitations quoted in western sources. Most of them are one-sided and anecdotal, at best, and contain no hard data.

    You can dispute those polling figures all you want, but it is apparent that even the anti-Putin segment of Western media admits it accepts them and attributes the popularity to the ethnic composition of the population and Russian financial largess in Crimea, rather than to ethnic cleansing or “terror”; at that point I would think a reasonable person would have to re-evaluate their own personal objectivity if they continue to deny reality.

    • Agree: SOL
  304. FB says: • Website
    @Sean

    The USSR was once defenceless…blablabla

    When America was the only country with a…thermonuclear monopoly…blablabla

    America knew it could win a conventional WW3…blablabla

    Are you planning to knit yourself a dunce cap with all of that yarn you are pulling out of your ass?

    FACT: the USSR had the FIRST USABLE thermonuclear weapon.

    RDS-37 was initiated at the Semipalatinsk test site on 22 November 1955….

    After the shock wave passed, all the viewers stood up and started cheering their success, the Soviet Union became the first to successfully air deliver a two-stage thermonuclear weapon.

    By comparison, the US Ivy Mike:

    The 82 short tons (74 metric tons) “Mike” device was essentially a building that resembled a factory rather than a weapon.[9] It has been reported that Soviet engineers derisively referred to “Mike” as a “thermonuclear installation”.

    Both of those from wikipedia.

    There was a similarly massive Russian lead in the ICBM, deploying the first such missile, while the US was years behind.

    The US was the one that was DEFENSELESS for many years. Their rockets could not hoist enough payload for their thermonuclear bombs that were still quite massive. Much less deliver that to Russia.

    A quick comparison of the world’s first ICBM the R7, which also launched the first satellite, and the first TWO humans in space.

    R7 Semyorka rocket rocket on display in Moscow at the Exhibition of Achievements of National Economy

    This powerful rocket has a mass of 290 metric tons, and a thrust of over one million pounds. Its payload was a KB11 thermonuclear bomb of 5,500 pounds of mass.—which it could deliver over a distance of nearly 9,000 km.

    The US ‘answer’ was the Juno1 rocket with a mass one tenth that of R7. It was able to launch the first US ‘satellite’, which had a mass of 11 kg, lol!

    But the important thing was that they could pretend to have matched the Russians. This would be repeated after the Russians launched Yuri Gagarin into space, on the same R7 rocket. the US quickly shot Alan Sheppard up in a slightly improved version of the German V2 rocket, lol!

    [MORE]


    Mercury-Redstone Project Manager Joachim Kuettner [L] and center officials host MR-4 ‘astronaut’ Gus Grissom [6th from L]

    This peashooter could not even reach ONE THIRD of orbital velocity of 8 km/s [18,000 mph], reaching a top speed of only 5,000 mph.

    The ‘astronaut’ Alan Sheppard flew a grand total of 263 miles, while staying up in the air for 15 minutes.

    By comparison Gagarin’s orbited the earth, about 25,000 miles as his R7 rocket carried his Vostok spacecraft to the required orbital velocity. That’s only 100 times greater distance flown than Sheppard’s ‘space flight,’ lol!

    [Reaching orbit is a function of SPEED not height, since the spacecraft must generate enough centrifugal force to balance out the earth’s gravitational pull and stay aloft. Centrifugal force being mass x velocity squared, divided by radius; Earth’s acceleration of gravity being 9.8 meters per second squared, and its radius being 6400 km; it means a spacecraft must reach the speed of 8 km/s to reach orbit.]

    The SECOND man in space was Gherman Titov, who orbited the earth 17 times, flying a distance of 425,000 miles, while orbiting the earth for 25 hours!

    It was not until John Glenn in 1962, that the US actually put a man in space. Glenn made three orbits, covering about 45,000 miles, about one tenth of Titov’s flight. The launch rocket was the Atlas, which was also the first so-called ‘ICBM’ that the US fielded.

    After watching an Atlas ICBM explode shortly after launch, Mercury astronaut Gus Grissom remarked “Are we really going to get on top of one of those things?”

    The numerous failures led to Atlas being dubbed an “Inter County Ballistic Missile” by missile technicians…

    Inter-COUNTY ballistic missile, lol?

    Why not? Seeing as the first US ‘man in space’ made an inter-county ‘spaceflight, LOLOLOL!

    I won’t even bother to go into a more detailed comparison of those early Russian and US [sort of] ICBMs. It would be like comparing a peanut to a cantaloupe.

    When studying this early history of aerospace technology [and nuclear technology], it becomes clear that the US resorts to charades—hiding its lame capabilities with lots of verbiage that is good enough to fool the dumb American sheeple, most of whom wouldn’t know Newton’s First Law from a cheeseburger anyway.

    This national characteristic has only grown ever more abundant, as we see in the delusional fantasies of Alzheimer Sean.

    As for WW2, it was the Russians that rolled up the million-strong Jap Army in a matter of a few days, which prompted the Japanese surrender, as many historians point out, including US military historian, Col David Glantz, as well as Japanese historians:

    Tsuyoshi Hasegawa’s research has led him to conclude that the atomic bombings were not the principal reason for Japan’s capitulation.

    He argues that Japan’s leaders were impacted more by the swift and devastating Soviet victories on the mainland in the week after Joseph Stalin’s 8 August declaration of war…

    Furthermore, the Japanese could no longer hope to achieve a negotiated peace with the Allies by using the Soviet Union as a mediator with the Soviet declaration of war.

    That, according to Hasegawa, amounted to a ‘strategic bankruptcy’ for the Japanese and forced their message of surrender on 15 August 1945.

    In fact the Russian archives reveal that the officers of the Manchuria offensive were surprised that the Japs were such a weak foe. They wondered aloud how the US could have had such difficulty with them in the Philippines and Indonesia.

    Similarly in Europe, the US showed their natural paper tiger colors. The Germans, despite being already destroyed by Russia on the Eastern Front, still managed to hit the Anglo-American forces with the Ardennes offensive in January 1945. It was only the need to withdraw 20 divisions from that offensive and send them to the defense of Berlin against the Red Army that saved the western allies from an embarrassing defeat!

    That German offensive turned into the much-touted Battle of the Bulge, the biggest battle on the western front, which was one tenth the size of either Stalingrad or Kursk, not to mention the Operation Bagration Offensive of 1944, when the Red Army basically destroyed the Wehrmacht for good, and rolled over most of central Europe in a matter of a few weeks.

    It was the biggest defeat in German military history and the fifth deadliest campaign in Europe…

    The German army never recovered from the materiel and manpower losses sustained during this time, having lost about a quarter of its Eastern Front manpower, exceeding even the percentage of loss at Stalingrad [about 17 full divisions].

    The Red Army recaptured a vast amount of Soviet territory and occupied some Baltic and Polish territory whose population had suffered greatly under the German occupation.

    The advancing Soviets found cities destroyed, villages depopulated, and much of the population killed or deported by the occupiers.

    This was all while the touted Normandy landings were just getting started. Talk about a day late and a dollar short.

    The simple fact is that there was never any real prospect of a paper tiger US taking on the Red Army. The US did have a monopoly on the atomic bomb for four years, but these were the early fission weapons, that, while destructive, were nowhere near the fearsome power of the fission-fusion hydrogen bombs [thermonuclear] that came a decade later.

    And there were many crucial factors to consider, especially the ability to deliver them to a well defended target!

    These bombs were huge and could only be carried by relatively slow bomber aircraft. There was little chance of the US being able to penetrate Russian airspace, defended by literally thousands of nimble fighter aircraft and dense anti-air artillery. The Germans tried bombing Moscow early in the war, when they had all the advantages and momentum, but quickly gave up after suffering devastating losses, for practically no gain.

    Another factor was in the production of fissile material, which requires a HUGE industrial undertaking. One need only look at the X10 Graphite Reactor that was constructed in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, or the Hanford site B Reactor in Washington State, which produced the material for the two Jap bombs.

    The Y12 uranium enrichment plant required 14,700 tons of silver for its enrichment calutrons, as well as 22,000 employees and more electrical power than most entire states required at the time.

    Producing this bomb material is not like pulling yarn out of Sean’s ass. The US was not able to make much of this stuff in the early years. The Russians quickly surpassed the US and built the world’s first civilian nuclear power generating station in 1954. The Russian Rosatom state corporation now is the undisputed leader in nuclear technology and dominates the world nuclear energy market.

    The simple fact is of course completely opposite to Sean’s hallucinations. The US was never in a position to challenge the Red Army in Europe in the postwar years, despite having the early atomic bomb, which was not really a gamechanger. [The Japs weren’t afraid of US atomic bombing, and were ready to fight a US invasion. What they were afraid of was a Red Army invasion.]

    The gamechanger was thermonuclear bombs tens or even hundreds of times more powerful, plus unstoppable rockets able to deliver these crushing blows across continents.

    By the time this era arrived, it was the US that was defenseless—having fallen behind badly in both rocket technology and thermonuclear capability.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @voicum
    , @antibeast
    , @Sean
  305. Schuetze says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “But Russia started WW2”

    Read this recent UR thread: https://www.unz.com/article/barbarossa-suvorovs-revisionism-goes-mainstream/

    Either a) Stalin was a communist dictator and Russians were Judeo-Bolshevik slave soldiers, or b) the glorious Red Russian Rapist Army “liberated” eastern Europe from Christianity. Take your pick. Putin chooses b).

    Also, Putin let Azerbeijan, Turkey and Israel commit another genocide against Christian Armenians while he sat idly by and watched Jewish and Moslem drones butcher Christians. Putin the crypto-jew is a real Christian hero, the second coming of Christ. lol.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  306. Z-man says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    The John Birch Society had a stand on Fifth Avenue a few years ago and they were making fun of ‘BoJo’, calling him and inbred freak. I shared a good laugh with those guys. LOL

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  307. @Oscar Peterson

    According to your logic, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and California belong to Mexico.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  308. @Alfred

    Add Fidel Castro to the list (he survived).

  309. voicum says:
    @FB

    FB what is wrong with you ? You are talking to a 7 years old kid. This is child abuse. LOL.

    • LOL: FB
  310. antibeast says:
    @FB

    In fact the Russian archives reveal that the officers of the Manchuria offensive were surprised that the Japs were such a weak foe. They wondered aloud how the US could have had such difficulty with them in the Philippines and Indonesia.

    The Japs lost their will to fight the Soviet Red Army in Manchuria as they had begun withdrawing from China in order to defend Japan. That’s why the Japs fought fiercely against the Americans in Iwo Jima and Okinawa as they were defending Japan in the same way that the Australians fought fiercely against the Japs as they were defending Australia.

    The Americans, British, French and Dutch lost their will to fight the Japs in Southeast Asia as they thought they would be better off surrendering to the Japs rather than fighting the Japs. Boy, were they wrong! The Japs thought otherwise and considered their surrender to be cowardly and treacherous and treated them accordingly.

    The will to fight must be something about defending your own homeland vs fighting to maintain a colonial possession.

    • Replies: @FB
  311. Anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Regarding Ukraine and Georgia, why does Volker say Russia was the aggressor?

    “Russia has attacked Ukraine and Georgia and taken their territories. It occupies part of Moldova right across the border from Romania and without the country’s consent,” Volker pointed out.

    ”As sentiments shift, talk of the EU becoming a global military power alongside NATO has intensified, though the US remains concerned about wasteful duplication of military resources, Politico reported the Center for American Progress, a Washington think tank with close ties to the Biden administration, as highlighting.”

    From : CHINA AND RUSSIA SEEKING TO DIVIDE EU AND NATO, US DIPLOMAT SAYS

    https://balkaninsight.com/2021/06/28/china-and-russia-seeking-to-divide-eu-and-nato-us-diplomat-says/

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  312. Sean says:
    @FB

    I used “thermonuclear” but I meant “atomic” bomb. America had a monopoly of the Atomic Bomb, but did not use or threaten to use it to prevent the USSR getting an atomic bomb of its own. Whether of not they should or shouldn’t have, fact is they didn’t.

  313. haha says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Actually he is a troll, a very dedicated and hardworking one at that. I recognized this a little late. Creatures like him are best ignored.

    • Replies: @T.Rebon
  314. T.Rebon says:
    @haha

    Actually he is a troll,

    I don’t think so, there are so many people misguided by the media. And he triggers FB to one of his profound postings about missile and rocket history.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @haha
  315. FB says: • Website
    @antibeast

    That may be one part of it. But not the whole story.

    If you read Glantz’s excellent history on the Manchuria offensive, you will find that the Japs were nowhere near as CAPABLE as the Germans.

    Not technically, not doctrinally, nor tactically and not in any way comparable to the German fighting capabilities.

    In fact the Japs did fight ferociously in Manchuria, often suicidally. This is part of the Samurai tradition that the officers were taught in military academy—and this often filtered down the ranks too.

    They were simply overwhelmed by the Red Army, which was the most capable fighting force in the world [by far], by that time.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  316. Athena says:

    Episode 5 – Ray McGovern tells us how the Empire Strikes Back

    — The 2016 election, Russia-gate
    — Ukraine
    — Russia-China relations
    — Trump
    — Putin
    — Biden-Putin Geneva summit

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  317. @alwayswrite

    Why don’t you ask an Argentine and a Malvinas resident and see what they say, then compare it to what a Ukranazi and a Crimean say?

    • Replies: @alwayswrite
  318. @Alden

    Saker should go back to Russia

    He is a half White Russian emigre descendant Swiss with a Dutch father, whose maternal grandfather was a Nazi collaborator in WWII, so even your basic point is mistaken.

  319. EugeneGur says:
    @Corvinus

    Lol, no. The Russians are posturing. They don’t want the potential for nuclear war, at worst, and worldwide sanctions, at best.

    Nobody gives a damn about sanctions anymore. Besides, if the West wants to impose sanctions, it will and it doesn’t need a cause. Anything’d do: Putin wearing a wrong tie, some Russian stepping on a cockroach some where, anything.

    As Putin recently said – perfectly correctly – even if Russia has sunk that ship, it wouldn’t’ve resulted in WWIII, because people on the other side know they can’t win.

    The Russians never posture but they do yearn to kick some ass after all these lies and provocations. And at some point, and soon, Putin, will have to oblige.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Philip Owen
  320. @Seraphim

    Add Fidel Castro to the list (he survived).

  321. @Seraphim

    Apparently, nothing’s worse, or harder to get over than an empire having a prize and losing it. England had the riches of Africa and India, and the United States had the wealth of Cuba and Iran. Neither will ever get over losing them.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  322. antibeast says:
    @FB

    If you read Glantz’s excellent history on the Manchuria offensive, you will find that the Japs were nowhere near as CAPABLE as the Germans.

    That’s because the Kwantung Army had become ‘demoralized’ by eight years of war in China where the Chinese Communists and Chinese Nationalists fought a ‘war of attrition’ against the IJA.

    Not technically, not doctrinally, nor tactically and not in any way comparable to the German fighting capabilities.

    That was true in China as the Japs became ‘demoralized’ by their failure to defeat the Chinese. But in Southeast Asia, the Japs succeeded spectacularly against the Americans, British, French and Dutch where they forced the Western Powers to surrender their colonies after less than six months of fighting. General Douglas MacArthur fled the Philippines and abandoned his USAFFE troops to the Japanese while General Arthur Percival presided over the fall of Singapore which was described by Winston Churchill as “the worst disaster and largest capitulation in British history”. More Westerners died as POWS after they had surrendered to the Japanese than Western deaths due to fighting the Japanese.

    • Replies: @Nick102
    , @FB
  323. @alwayswrite

    Russians did invite Western observers before referendum. All west rejected the offer,
    All land properties in Crimea were held by native Russians. Zero land was owned by Ukrainians.
    Crimea was owned by Tatars and after time it was owned by Russians, never any Ukrainians.
    Khrushchev attached Crimea to Ukraine but it was only formality.

  324. @Schuetze

    Nonsense Communist Government put priests nuns and monks on government payroll.
    Solicitation by religions was prohibited.

    • LOL: Schuetze
  325. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    You’re engaging in whataboutery,besides Crimea is under totalitarian control,I’d not be able to freely walk about and ask people anything there without the FSB arresting me

    You’ll just have to except you’re wrong,so was Putin,and all he has to show for it is a bunch of oligarchs plundering Crimea and servile and compliant residents who go along with the rampant corruption,because thats how they’ve lived their entire lives since Ukraine is,along with Russia,one of the most corrupt places in the world,certainly in Europe,thats actually the result of the inhumane system created by the Soviets,and we know that system was beloved by Putin,so basically you’ve gone full circle, with another idiot,Putin, screwing stuff up this time,and don’t forget its Putin who facilitates neo Nazis in Europe he even has a training camp in Russia for them 😜

    Anyway there’s no water on Crimea so its not worth having 😁😄😄😄😄

  326. @Athena

    Ray Mc Govern is an old attention seeking fool and all in Kremlin useful idiot

  327. @Anon

    Volker is a liar, the Bigger the better. A US ‘diplothug’ in every particular.

  328. @Showmethereal

    One of Chavez’s body-guards who defected to the USA had stolen samples of Hugo’s DNA. Say no more.

  329. @Sean

    Fiona Hill???!!! The Wick4ed Witch of the West! You have a crush, do you, Sean. Be careful-remember the black widow, or the preying mantis.

  330. @Z-man

    And Lyndon LaRouche gang still frequents Union Square to peddle their version of “how crooked is the British Aristocracy including the royal family with the Rothschilds” from time to time. I get a kick out of those guys. It’s a part and parcel of living in the Big Apple.

  331. Spanky says:
    @Carroll Price

    Wall Street and the City of London never forget, much less forgive, those peasants who manage to free themselves from their economic and political domination. And we should never forget whose “interests” the U.S. government, intelligence agencies, and military actually represent…

    Didn’t a former Commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps once write a book in which he described himself as a “high-priced” enforcer for Wall Street that operated on three continents?

  332. Nick102 says:
    @antibeast

    This doesn’t make sense since the Japanese’s doctrine was to locate the government to the occupied part of China and continue fighting even if the allies occupied the mainland. Thus, the Japanese soldiers had the very incentive to defend the occupied part of China against the Soviets. Moreover, this incentive was stronger since that fight became the defense of the Empire of Japan as a whole.

    • Agree: FB
  333. FB says: • Website
    @antibeast

    Look, you’re making a lot of claims about ‘demoralization’ without actually having read ANY credible history on this.

    Stop wasting my time!

    —Col David M Glantz, Soviet Operational and Tactical Combat in Manchuria, 1945: ‘August Storm’

    Just one paragraph form the introduction:

    The surprise Soviet offensive achieved immediate spectacular success.

    The three attacking fronts penetrated western, eastern, and northern Manchuria, overcame or bypassed the formidable Japanese defenses and covering forces along the border, paralyzed Japanese command and control, and entered central Manchuria with astonishing ease, while the Kwantung Army struggled in vain to survive.

    The massive scale of the Soviet attack was matched by the audaciousness, skill, and relentlessness with which it was conducted.

    Read that and actually learn something. I remember you often arguing TECHNICAL points about subjects in which you have no formal knowledge. Another silly UNZ goofball with zero actual knowledge, just a lot of chutzpah!

    • Agree: Jazman
    • Troll: Schuetze
  334. Sean says:
    @T.Rebon

    United States used Atomic Bombs in August 1945. The Soviet Union did not have an atomic bomb of their own until September 1949. aided more than a little by spying and captive German scientists. The only people saying the USSR was overtaking America in armaments’ have been the the US military industrial complex and their presidential candidate shills like JFK (missile gap) and Reagan (window of opportunity). Such claims have been heard before and repeatedly found to be baseless. Russia under Putin is not going balls to the wall for military force like the USSR was, so how could they exceed the relative performance of an era when military tech was a priority? Have Russians got smarter? Are Jews flooding into Russia?

    • Replies: @T.Rebon
  335. haha says:
    @T.Rebon

    It is interesting actually, trying to make out what makes people tick. Yes, lots of people are misguided by the media and propaganda, but it is the intensity with which he pushes patently false narratives that made me call him out as a troll. This topic, because it involved Britain, should alert us to the possibility that the British secret alphabet soup may very well have nudged its agents and useful idiots to push a certain line regarding Russia. The number of lengthy posts, all from the same half-a-dozen keyboard-warriors promoting the British party line, made me suspect that certain British agencies may be at work.

    • Replies: @T.Rebon
  336. T.Rebon says:
    @Sean

    Sean, i don’t know what you want to say. That US had 4 years “the bomb”, maybe two and nobody else? Until 1949?

    For me this is not important. Everything else sounds for me emotionally. Who is better in bombing or so.

    Take a look at FBs postings, he is imo devoted to give other people his view and is able to put that in postings of book quality. That is only possible if somebody has a lot of knowledge in that area.

    And, another part, i live in Hamburg, Germany. When i look out of the window i see only a few houses build before 1949.

    I can walk hours in some areas of the city and there are none.

    My grandpa died as a fisher after the war by running on a britisch mine in the harbor. My mother told me that the whole village donated blood for one week, but it runs out of him as they spend. She was able to talk at this a few years ago. That is war pure atrocity and nothing else.

    Maybe you can imagine that i give nothing on your sportish Blabla.

    • Replies: @Sean
  337. T.Rebon says:
    @haha

    but it is the intensity with which he pushes patently false narratives that made me call him out as a troll

    .

    I regard that as cognitive dissonance. People often react to information that is against theyre narratives with aggression, a can’t believe and try to hold there world view at any price. Getting clear gives pain and you must be trained to withstand.

    Methink everybody has that in other areas.

  338. Alfred says:
    @Sean

    Of late Putin has looked under the weather though he is teetotal; some say he has cancer and/or Parkinson’s.

    A few days ago, he answered questions from the Russian public for 3.5 hours. Can you think of any politician in the West who can do that for 15 minutes?

    He looked full of beans to me. The CIA cannot get anywhere near him. When he went to Geneva to meet Biden, the Swiss were told that not one Swiss person should be on the tarmac when the door of the plane opens.

    I looked all over but Youtube and Google seem to have censored this Russian event. The important thing is that he said that if the Russians had sunk the British ship, NATO would have been powerless to retaliate. Reality is catching up with the West. If the Americans attack a Russia city, the response will be against an American city. Not against places like Warsaw and Berlin.

    https://theduran.com/putins-annual-qa-hard-line-on-nato-black-sea-zelensky/

  339. Farhad says:
    @alwayswrite

    Putin basically ethnically cleansed the place

    and your evidence for that is?

    • Agree: showmethereal
  340. Corvinus says:
    @EugeneGur

    “Nobody gives a damn about sanctions anymore. Besides, if the West wants to impose sanctions, it will and it doesn’t need a cause. Anything’d do: Putin wearing a wrong tie, some Russian stepping on a cockroach some where, anything.”

    It doesn’t work that way. There must be substantial cause.

    “As Putin recently said – perfectly correctly – even if Russia has sunk that ship, it wouldn’t’ve resulted in WWIII, because people on the other side know they can’t win.”

    The world, including Russia, would lose, hence the posturing.

    “And at some point, and soon, Putin, will have to oblige.”

    And risk WWIII? Are you insane?

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  341. Seraphim says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Russia has everything that ‘anyone’ needs, but want to have without paying for it.

    • Agree: Alfred
  342. Sean says:
    @T.Rebon

    I was simply making the point that the US could have used its nuclear monopoly to remove the risk of nuclear war by preventing Russia developing its own nuclear weapons as Bertrand Russell and John von Neuman advocated. America was too idealistic for anything like that; in 1947 it cut off aid to the Nationalists thus handing China over to communism. The year 1949 was tremendous shock.

    Bombing killed civilians but was the only effective way for Britain, which it did not not want to fight WW2 in the first place. The context was Britain was fighting Hitler’s Germany without meaningful help fromAmerica while the USSR was not only in a non aggression pact with Hitler and supplying him with raw materials. The Soviet Union had annexed half of Poland. After Barbarossa started, Churchill moved heaven and earth to get armaments sent to the Soviet Union, the importance and extent of that help has never been admitted by Russians.

    Ukraine put in a big order for warships from Britain and so a British Navy ship was sent to show the flag. That is all; no one in the UK or the rest of the West is interested in fighting Russia for Ukraine which is literally a joke country having elected a comedic actor who played the character of a Ukrainian leader. The Russians have not done particularly well against Ukraine militarily, and had to resort to use of heavy artillery. Diplomatically, they lost control of it because most Ukrainians don’t like Russians all that much. Ukraine is better off without the impoverished Donbass anyway.

    We are told Russia has the most advanced military technology, but their elite force is using a long range sniper rifle made by @Anonymous

  • I wish that Americans still had the self-respect to speak and behave as you and your countrymen do, Saker, but your jingoism really is over the top. You say that the U.S. blusters, but the Russian state does not need to bluster as long as individual Russians like you will do the blustering for it.

    I think that you are mistaking a muscular Russian mindset for invincibility. Russia is unable to attack and defeat the United States. As far as I know, Russia will indefinitely remain unable to attack and defeat the United States. Bluster changes none of this.

    Personally, as an American citizen, I can see no point in provoking Russia, but you are reacting to American provocation by issuing an interminable stream of threats your country cannot support.

    But yes, NATO should keep away from the Crimea as you say, unless NATO wants its vessels sunk.

    • Replies: @Avery
  • Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Bombing killed civilians but was the only effective way for Britain, which it did not not want to fight WW2 in the first place. The context was Britain was fighting Hitler’s Germany without meaningful help fromAmerica while the USSR was not only in a non aggression pact with Hitler and supplying him with raw materials.

    It’s well known that the Germans restrained themselves, first at Dunkirk when they could have wiped out the British Expeditionary Force, and then in prosecuting the Battle of Britain. Hitler was tentative in pursuing the Brits because he felt they would compromise with him.

    “Luftwaffe ‘could have won Battle of Britain if they attacked earlier,’ new study suggests”

    https://news.yahoo.com/luftwaffe-won-battle-of-britain-world-war-2-statistics-184546931.html

    If they had kept up their blitzkrieg pace against Britain, Sea Lion and a land invasion of Britain would have been a cakewalk for Germany given Britain’s weak land defense and army.

    Hitler’s mistake was in depending on the goodwill and reasonableness of the Brits. Ultimately this bought the Brits just enough time for the US and USSR to get involved. He should have done so only after Sea Lion and the conquest of Britain.

  • Avery says:
    @V. K. Ovelund

    {As far as I know, Russia will indefinitely remain unable to attack and defeat the United States}

    What in the world would Russia try to ‘attack and defeat’ US for ?
    For what purpose.
    The only reason Russia would attack US (mainland), is if US carries out a nuclear first strike against Russian heartland. And in that event both US and Russia, and everybody else loses.

    Its is the US and NATO which are constantly pressing against Russia, constantly needling her, surrounding her with NATO bases, interfering with her commerce with other European nations, …..it never ends.

    To wit: what business does US have to stick its nose and impose sanctions on NORDSTREAM2, when Germany wants that pipeline. It’s naked US piracy and criminality.

    American and Russian people have no quarrel.
    All this hatred against Russia and (Russian) Christianity is being ginned up by enemies of the people of America: The GloboSorosa traitors that have infested all levels of US Government, and are rabidly thirsting for blood.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  • @Avery

    It’s just TYPICAL US projection. Part of the Yankee Doodle ‘Exceptionalist’ psychopathy is a nauseating impulse to falsely accuse others of just those crimes that the USA is world champion for all time, in. Aggression, genocide, lying, threats, intimidation, interference etc.

  • whodat says:
    @martin_2

    All foreign policy lately is correctly disambiguated seen through the lens of “is it good for the Jews:Israel”. Israel hates Hezbollah and Assad and hence Iran and up the food chain- Russia.Now that Russia is on the path to Re Christianization, the Woke culture in the US, militant in their anti Christian and Anti White posture, has recast their ‘i hate,i like’ lists to please their masters. Saudi Arabia and the Sunni Muslim world are mere cats paws for the US, and are firmly in the US camp. So that’s it. If there is a war, I hope you know who is not spared the acrid smoke.

  • anon[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    “remove the risk of nuclear war by preventing Russia developing its own nuclear weapons as Bertrand Russell and John von Neuman advocated“

    Russel never advocated that . He was against nuclear weapon .

    I though agree that the situation in Kerch strait – Mariupol- Ukraine and Caucasus – Ossetia -Georgia getting out of hand .

    There will be more provocation from UK and more abrasive intentional leaks found in the bathroom or heaps of garbage in London .

  • @Showmethereal

    “And while not an official – certainly with great i fluence over the third world – the singer Bob Marley. Used to speak out against the hegemon and drops dead with cancer in his 30’s – first collapsing in NYC while jogging. Strange.”

    He ‘dropped dead’ because of cancer in his foot that his bloody religion wouldn’t allow proper treatment of. Not everything is some US plot. Get a grip.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  • @Schuetze

    I have long said that all wars are economic wars. Some say bankers’ wars.
    Somewhere, in what remains of my memory, I recall reading about the Berlin Conference to end the Russo Turkish War, and how Disraeli manipulated the process so that Serbia became part of Austria – unexpectedly. This is the closest I can come to that.
    http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/european/news.php?q=1511802720

  • @alwayswrite

    “The fact is it’s Russia who are incapable of their treaty obligations by their behaviour,especially their claims about the use of weapons,which is absolutely forbidden unless the Royal Navy ship was undertaking acts of aggression,which it wasn’t”

    Grab your copy of UNCOLS, and consider this:
    Article 17-20 define the circumstances in which a ship can claim its right of innocent passage.
    Article 21-24 define what a coastal state must do when a ship possessing that right of innocent passage passes through their coastal waters (basically, let it through).

    All well and good, and understood by all.

    But what about the “right of innocent passage” itself?
    Can a coastal state suspend that right, thereby making all of Article 17-24 moot?

    Article 25 which clearly says that a coastal state can do that inside its waters so long as there is an “essential security” need, the area is defined, the suspension is temporary, and it is published for all to see.

    Russia did all that, to the letter, and then along comes Defender loudly proclaiming a “right” to be there that doesn’t exist because that very “right” had already been legally suspended.

    So what happens next?

    Article 30 says that the coastal state can insist that such a foreign warship must leave.
    Article 32 says that if that warship refuses to leave then it loses its “immunity”.

    Which brings us back to your statement:
    …”which is absolutely forbidden unless the Royal Navy ship was undertaking acts of aggression”…

    Which is wrong. Absolutely, categorically, wrong.

    Article 30 and 32 say that the Royal Navy ship need only have barged its way in that stretch of coastal water and then, having been told to leave, it refuses to do so.

    Do that (i.e. be Boris Johnson-level boors) and the Russians are fully entitled to shoot great big holes in it.

  • Sean says:
    @T.Rebon

    Doesn’t have to be a war on, if you have a nuclear weapons monopoly as the US had for four years, you have a Decisive Strategic Advantage if you choose to use it. Just just build a stockpile of the weapons and announce that you will not tolerate anyone else making their own, Impose your will on other counties. Bertrand Russel and John von Neuman advocated a first strike or the threat of one to stop the USSR making a bomb. Von Neuman was quite happy to just cut to the chase and bomb them.

    https://www.edge.org/conversation/david_deutsch-constructor-theory

    Only a physical object can compute things.[…]

    Von Neumann was motivated really by theoretical biology rather than theoretical physics. Another thing that I think inhibited Von Neumann from realizing that his theory was fundamental physics was that he had the wrong idea about quantum theory. He had settled for, and was one of the pioneers of, building a cop-out version of quantum theory that made it into just an operational theory, where you would use quantum theory just to work out and predict the outcomes of experiments rather than express the laws of how the outcome comes about. That was one of the reasons why von Neumann never thought of his own theory as being a generalization of quantum theory, because he didn’t really take quantum theory seriously. His contribution to quantum theory was to provide this set of Von Neumann rules that allows you to use the theory in practice without ever wondering what it means.

    No one now denies that super intelligent AI is possible in principle. What is probably going to happen is they someone like Von Neuman come up with a way to to make one without really understanding how it works. Then it will have a Decisive Strategic Advantage, if it chooses to use it

  • @Lyov Myshkin

    Nonsense. Goes to show you have no clue what transpired. The claim was that he got skin cancer because he hurt his toe playing football (soccer) and never got it treated. A toe injury (presumed infection) becomes skin cancer???? Wow! He was in his 30’s and perfectly fit. In fact he and his entourage were jogging when he collapsed and started foaming at the mouth.
    The fact you believe Rastafarians don’t seek medical care shows how good propaganda is. If that was the case – why did he got to the hospital in NY when he collapsed? Why after the cancer diagnosis did he spent a freezing winter in Germany receiving treatment to cure it??? Zero critical thinking whatsoever on your part.

    And I don’t know whether he was poisoned or not… But the story seems completely nonsensical. And we do know such things have been attempted. Do you know how many ways the CIA tried to kill Castro???? Was Castro going to invade the United States? How come the FBI had informants in Nation of Islam mosques and didn’t know Malcolm X was to be murdered?? How come an FBI agent was his bodyguard on the night and couldn’t do anything??? Those aren’t conspiracies. Those are facts. If you know the effect Bob Marley had on the 3rd world – it wouldn’t seem so strange at all. Again – I don’t know if he was poisoned – but only a fool would dismiss the possibility. And the fact you get the story so wrong lends credence.

    And just for the record – he was shot only a few years before in a political assassination attempt. Guess who the political party who attempted to assassinate him were trained by??? I will give you a hint… It is an alphabet agency and is headquartered not too far from the Mason Dixon line of the United States

    .https://bbc-edition.com/music/2021/07/05/the-day-they-tried-to-kill-bob-marley-with-a-gunshot-to-the-heart/

    You are the person who needs to get a grip on the realities of this world.

  • @EugeneGur

    Russia spends all its time posturing and has done for centuries. Bragging about nothing is a key part of Russian culture. You should go there sometime.

    • Replies: @Avery
  • Avery says:
    @Philip Owen

    {Russia spends all its time posturing and has done for centuries.}

    Russia crushed Napoleon’s Grande Armée, when no other European power could.
    SU (read Russia) crushed Hitler’s Wehrmacht, when no other European power could.
    Yep: thems sure was posturing.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Philip Owen
  • Seraphim says:
    @Avery

    The grip that myths have on western minds is incredible. So is the myth of ‘Potemkin villages’.

  • Tsigantes says:

    With respect you are totally wrong about ‘only highly specialised’ people in Europe understanding Russian capability or last week’s events. The incident was published across Europe to massive majority disapproval and condemnation of the US-UK’s actions and with the hope that Russia disabled the Defender’s satellite systems. I have yet to meet a single person who applauds or backs this insane brinksmanship.

    Russian systems in Syria are also widely known and their implication is crystal clear. Too many of us are GLAD that they are there – for Syria’s sake and our own.

    You speak of ‘Europe this’ and ‘Europe that’ – it may surprise you that a serious majority in “Europe” want the EU gone, Washington out, the British troublemakers caged and good relations with Russia. This is even more so in my country, Greece. EU and EU ‘leaders’ are Washington’s tools, not our own.

  • Tsigantes says:
    @Schuetze

    Invasion, Rape, Murder, Ethnic Cleansing, and Genocide.

    Sigh, another Hollywood pivoting Black ‘n’ White-ist, i.e. Hitler the Saint. Blind to who was behind Hitler (“he rose from the people!”)

    Invasion, Rape, Murder, Ethnic Cleansing, and Genocide are the Israeli trademark. I leave you to connect the rest.

  • @Avery

    1612, Russia saved by English guns and money plus Scottish officers. 1801. Russian invasion of India which disintegrated without even leaving Ressia. 1812, Despite being engaged in a victorious war on another continent the British blockaded Napoleon. He invaded Russia without enough horses or food because he didn’t have the supplies (from the USA and other parts of the Americas) to feed them. His troops then starved. (Using the wrong horse shoes was a mistake too). The Russian military was less of a factor. Crimea War, Russia soundly beaten and prevented from capturing Constantinople en route to India. In further politicing, Russia blocked from other routes to India via Central Asia. First World War, Russia beaten despite British support. December 1941, 30% of the tanks outside Moscow were supplied by the British Empire and many aircraft. Thus the Soviet union survived long enough to receive US Aid. And this is just military. The state of the peasantry (often dying of famine), the economy or scientific advance are routinely overstated. A hypersonic missile I believe. Five capable of carrying a payload, not so much. The budget just hasn’t been there.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  • Seraphim says:
    @Philip Owen

    By the end of 1941 Britain had delivered 466 tanks. Hardly a decisive factor. Anyway the German advance was stopped by the beginning of December. The Soviet counter-offensive used 1,700 tanks, and over 1,500 aircraft from Siberia and the Far East.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  • @Seraphim

    But before the counter offensive, before Pearl Harbour, Moscow had to be saved.

  • @John Q Duped

    Just plain wrong. If he was relying on the UK having done something with legal effect I would only be asking as any lawyer or judge would; namely what was the instrument which gave it legal effect; e.g. the notice published in the Government Gazette with date of publication.

  • @Chris Moore

    And I didn’t even point out that you had been quoting crap. The Balfour Declaration was 1917 not 1919 and did NOT grant a homeland. Try reading it.

    BTW Balfour was rather anti Jewish. He didn’t mind Jews leaving England at all.

  • At first, it looked great, but now it has become clear that the blowback from this truly idiotic policy has many unexpected benefits for Russia and major problems for the Empire. They include:

    Russia got rid of all the Soviet periphery which was bleeding the Soviet Union dry.
    None of the newly created states has become a viable, successful state.

    Saker, They are all living in Moscow now. You should visit your spiritual homeland sometime. Within a generation it will look like LA, except instead of Mexicans they will be the Kirgiz Muslims.

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