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Friends, the Pentagon did it again. Through CNN, of course. Here is this “latest news”:

Over 100 US service members have been diagnosed with mild traumatic brain injuries in the wake of the January 8 Iranian missile attack on the al Asad military base in Iraq, according to a US official with knowledge of the latest information?

On his website, Colonel Cassad offered this, shall we say, “evolution” of the truth as reported by the United States:

X stands for “surviving casualties”

Y stands for “dead”

  1. X = 0, Y = 0
  2. X = 11, Y = 0
  3. X = 34, Y = 0
  4. X = 50, Y = 0
  5. X = 64, Y = 0
  6. X=100+?, Y = 0
  7. X> 200, Y> 80?

(that last line is, obviously, hypothetical, but at the time of writing, we are already up to 109 casualties!)

Notice that while the number of surviving wounded steadily goes up, there is no corresponding increase in the number of dead. All we have are “aircraft crashes” (all, we are told, accidental). Ask any military specialist (or military historian) and you will be told that this kind of “evolution” is exceedingly unlikely (see here for one discussion). Simply put – these kinds of numbers are pretty obviously impossible, which means that from the moment the Idiot-in-Chief tweeted “so far so good”, the US was already lying:

Is there really anybody out there who will deny that the US government lies pretty much about everything and anything?. And it’s not just the Executive Branch, Congress lies possibly even more (both parties, of course). In fact, I would argue that lying is both necessary AND expected from any US politician. When somebody like Tulsi Gabbard or Ron Paul don’t abide by this rule, the media immediately dismisses them as “Putin agents” or something equally insipid.

The truth is that lies have become the norm of the western political discourse.

That is bad enough by itself. But there is worse.

The worst is not that western politicians lie, the worst is that almost nobody cares.

That is really scary.


Because in a society which expects everybody to lie, facts simply don’t matter any more.

So that is the key question: do we care or don’t we?

Well, some clearly still care. Or we would not have Howard Zinn’s books, or Oliver Stone’s movies as best sellers. Neither would we have a vibrant 9/11 Truth movement. You want more evidence? Sure! How about all the folks who are willing to go into exile (or to jail!) to uphold the rights of historians to freely investigate the history of WWII? How about Ed Snowden, Julian Assange or Bradley Manning? How about the millions of people in the West who took to the streets to protest the various GWOT wars? No, there clearly are a lot of people who care.

The problem is that their impact is minimal, and that is what I want to look into today.

Have facts and truth become redundant?

I doubt that there are many reading these lines who don’t already know for a fact that Kennedy was not killed by one “lone gunman”. Likewise, we all know the truth about the “Gulf of Tonkin” incident. Then there are those who realize that something about the Pearl Harbor attack stinks to high heaven. Some even remember the USS Liberty. Most specialists know about GLADIO. And I could go on and on. The fact is that most of the worst lies of the 20th century have been debunked beyond reasonable doubt, really.

Chris Hedges really nailed it when he spoke of an “Empire of Illusions“. He names the following types of illusions: the illusion of Literacy, the illusion of Love, the illusion of Wisdom, the illusion of Happiness and the illusion of America. The book is most interesting, and I highly recommend it. But I think that there is one crucial aspect of the Empire being an “Empire of Illusions” and that is the illusion of Reality. What do I mean by that?

I mean the following: most people are aware that there is a “reality” of some kind out there. Of course, many people are aware of how difficult it can be to ascertain what the “real reality” really is, thus they prefer to cautiously state that getting to the truth is a very difficult endeavor. These are the folks who know enough to know that they really don’t know much. But then there are also those who misinterpret this caution as to mean that there really is no such thing as reality at all and all there is, is the sum of our subjective perception thereof (of reality that is). Pretty soon we have slipped from:

  • Reality is often very difficult to establish


  • Reality is impossible to establish


  • Reality does not really exist at all (or, if it does, it really doesn’t matter)

Of course, most people won’t directly declare that reality does not exist – they just act as if it didn’t.

It all began centuries ago by a quite formidable indifference to Truth on the part of the leaders of the Papacy. These folks were all about power, so if religion could give it to them, then religion was good, but when religion placed limits on what the Latins could or could not do (say like during the famous “Valladolid debate“), then suddenly religion became a hindrance which had to be “reformed”. And, indeed, once the original Christianity was “reformed” (be it by the Reform or the Counter-Reformation) all hell broke lose for most of mankind and the Age of Imperialism was fully ushered in and the ancient motto “exitus acta probat” became the de facto measure of morality.

Then came the first blow of the scientific revolution of the late Renaissance which left the Papacy with very little credibility left.

The next blow came during WWII when the Papacy saw its very last hurrah come and go, pretty quickly, in fact (it lasted just as long as Hitler’s “1000 year Reich” did: 12 years). By the end of the war, western Christianity was left in shambles and, even worse was the fact that none of the victors of WWII (Reformed Anglos, Atheist Soviets, Jews – secular and not, etc.) had any warm feelings left for the Christianity (truth be told, neither did Hitler or Mussolini). At this point the Papacy decided to commit suicide and organized the Vatican II Council, which must be the most massive surrender of values previously held for sacred in history. This ill-advised attempt to show “Roman Catholicism with a human face” resulted in a total failure. Those who hated the Papacy were unimpressed did not like it any more. As for the confused rank and file “Roman Catholics” (whom I refer to as “Latins”), they were were left with the following conundrum: if the Pope is infallible (which he is as per the First Vatican Council of 1868), how can he so clearly contradict the teachings of his own Church (not to mention the teachings of his putatively infallible predecessors!)? Some declared that the Pope was a heretic, others simply declared that the “Holy See” was unoccupied (“sedevacantism“), but most simply gave up in total disgust (sex scandals did not help!) and simply stopped asking “what is the truth”?

When a Church which had declared itself “The Church” (all in CAPS, and at the exclusion of all others) for 910 years (almost a millennium!) suddenly acts as if all religions were equally “true” (this is logically impossible, but never mind that) and when a once powerful “Holy Father” (and Vicar of Christ, no less!) becomes just another public figure somewhere between Kim Kardashian and Greta Thunberg, you know that something very big has taken place.

Something very bad too.


The truth is not only unwelcome, it does not even exist, right?!

Both world wars were the manifestation of an immense civilizational collapse. WWI saw the collapse of the traditional European monarchies and empires. WWII, and its absolutely unprecedented explosion of hatred (political, class, racial, linguistic, religious, etc.) saw Europe, once the center of our planet, being subjected to a monstrous (but also highly predictable) bloodbath which resulted in two non-European powers splitting the world into two spheres of influence (at least that was the plan). More interestingly, while nominally “Christian” rulers and countries could not openly advocate for mass terror, the “enlightened” secular folks had no such problems at all. Just read Trotsky’s brilliant, if clearly satanic, “Dictatorship versus Democracy” or Hitler’s 5th chapter in Mein Kampf (here in German if you can!).

Both Dostoevskii and Solzhenitsyn predicted what would inevitably happen to a world in which Nihilism prevails. Dostoevskii very simply summarized it all when he wrote (in the Karamazov Brothers) “if there is no God, then everything is allowed“. The Nihilists have simply logically concluded that if there is no God, and everything is allowed, then nothing really exists, most certainly not any “real” (objective) reality. Even the very notions of “good” and “evil” are absolutely meaningless absent an absolute reference system.

Bertrand Russel (and, apparently, also Voltaire) once brilliantly wrote that “God created Man in His image and Man returned Him the favor“. Amazing words, really! If we are not the creation of God, but God is our creation, that makes us very much God-like, does it not? And, as “gods” – don’t we deserve to define for ourselves what is “good” and what is “bad”? Of course we do! Once life/existence has no meaning, how could concepts such as “good” or “evil”? And that is exactly what we have done, especially our post-modern 21 century Nihilists!

Back to where we started – assessing the “so what?” defense

I have already mentioned many times the mind-blowing hypocrisy of the Dems, who all hate on Trump for his alleged “so what?” defense (which, by the way, is a mis-characterization – his defense was much more solid and logical), but have absolutely no problems with people like the Obamas or, even better, the Clintons next to whom Trump almost sounds like a paragon of honesty, integrity and an acute sense of decency. I mean, really, the Clintons made even violent mobsters (Italian or Jewish) look pure and innocent. And when they lie, this is absolutely no big deal. But when Trump lies, then he elicits the kind of blind, impotent, rage which in the Gospel is described by the words “weeping and gnashing of teeth“. Maybe that is what they refer to when they speak of a “Trump derangement syndrome” amongst US liberals?

The truth is simple: we all know that Trump lied. About the Iranian counter-strike and about many other things. We also know that Obama lied. And Baby-Bush too. And the Clinton and his no-sex cigars… And we remember “read my lips, no new taxes” just as well as we remember “We did not, I repeat, did not trade weapons or anything else [to Iran] for hostages, nor will we“. So yes, we remember.

We just don’t care anymore.

We have been completely desensitized not only to truth, but even to reality.

So what, right?

And the consequences are dire indeed!

Conclusion: life in a reality-free world

The fact that we, who live inside the Empire, live in a reality-free world has a huge impact upon the actions of our rulers. After all, if nobody really believes in, or cares about, reality, then why should our rulers bother with making reality any better, especially for us? It is much, much, simpler to simply present a “feelgood” message about how great “America” is (as in “We have the most powerful and well equipped military anywhere in the world, by far!“) and never mind that this most powerful military in the Galaxy could not even protect its own soldiers even though they knew exactly when and where the Iranian counter-strike would come.

Of course, with time, the entire edifice of lies built by US and EU politicians will come crashing down, either as a consequence of a military defeat impossible to hide, or from a major economic shock. This will be totally unexpected for those who choose to live in a reality-free world.

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  1. A123 says:

    Why do Obama holdovers in the Pentagon lie?

    Because they are traitors who want to over throw the U.S. Constitution.

    Fabricating non-existent injuries in growing numbers is an attempted coup in action. No rational human being believes in these mythical ever growing concussion ‘injury’ reporting. Anything after the first 48 hours is obviously a lie.

    Why do they think they can get away with it?

    Because the Fake Stream Media has a track record of covering for those who lie and hate America. Fake media reports obviously Fake news about Fake injuries generated by Fake sources.

    Everyone saw the Fake Media crow about the non crime of “Obstruction of Nothing” during the bogus impeachment. Is anyone surprised about their intentional deception on this story?

    Are they going to get away with it?

    We do not know yet, but it seems unlikely.

    Just as Lt. Col. Vindman and others have been pitched from the NSC, the Obama holdovers fabricating injury reports will be ejected from locations where their treason can get media coverage.

    They should be tried and punished, but we have not seen that yet. So, 50/50 on lifetime confinement or execution.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @Milton
  2. melpol says:

    No team of minds can possibly juggle so many nations without losing control of them all. There must be a deadly Nuclear exchange between nations. Pushing and shoving will lead to punches to the face and then knives and guns will appear. There is too much hatred for a long lasting peace. Removal of all nuclear weapons makes sense.

  3. JasonT says:

    A very good summary of what I have been feeling and then understanding for the last four decades. My entire system of family and friends live inside the Empire and only see tbe illusion. In fact, I too am so bombarded by the illusions that it is difficult to keep my mind outside the matrix. When I try to break the illusion for others, I receive disbelief, derision, anger or (at best or worst) attempts to argue based on the illusions they see, disregarding even the most basic of physical and human principles in their arguments.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @slorter
    , @bobbybanks
  4. Biff says:

    Is there really anybody out there who will deny that the US government lies pretty much about everything and anything?.

    Yea! My liberal friends back in the U.S. of A. The intolerant left that hung on every word that came out of Obama’s mouth, but conversely holds everything Trump says with contempt.
    Very partisan!
    That’s where they get ya….

    • Replies: @sally
  5. getaclue says:

    The Vatican and Clergy were infiltrated by Masons and Communists– at the very top Cardinals were Masons infiltrated in to destroy the Church from inside –this is where the Vatican 2 “reforms” came from– from Satan in other words– Communist Bella Dodd testified she knew of at least 1,100 “Priests” that were Communist plants put in to destroy the Catholic Church some of which were Cardinals.


    Pecorelli’s List stated numerous infiltrated in Masons to destroy the Church, some of the top Cardinals, it has never been disputed and Pecorelli was murdered soon after the list came out. This is what is behind the destruction of the Catholic Church. The Masons/Communists were, and brought in, homosexual predators to also destroy the Church. Cardinal Bernardin was the most powerful Cardinal in the USA for many years– it is well known now he was a flaming homosexual (his death by AIDS was reportedly covered up) and credible evidence from two people was supplied that they were sexual assaulted by him as children at 2 different Black Masses i.e. he was an infiltrated in Satanist. (The PA Grand Jury report on sex abuse contains details of such sacrilege in some of it that it is clear that these “clergy” were also infiltrated in Satanists).

    Cardinal Bernardin pipelined in homosexuals booted out of Seminaries around the world into the USA where they went on to be homopredators like him thus ruining countless lives and costing the Laity of the Catholic Church multiple billions (millions were paid out as to a Bernardin sexual abuse case also to a man who died of AIDS soon after…)– so looks like the “plan” played out/is playing out just as they — Masons/Communists/Satanists — wanted–so far–we’ll see how God finally responds–we can’t know now where Bernardin spends Eternity — he had the Windy City Gay Mens’ Choir sing at his funeral and the Masons showed up to honor their “hero” in full Aprons– thus he gave the Catholic Church the finger basically from the grave and wherever he might have landed for Eternity.

    Leading to today where the “spawn” of Bernardin, his hand picked, are basically “running” the Church, especially Chicago, as Bishops etc.– hand picked homos or worse?….So the author needs to clue in as to what Vatican 2 really was and who pulled it off– given what is now running the Vatican with Pachamama Idol Worship occurring there recently overseen by the “Pope” and all the rest it seems the infiltration is now at a fever pitch, could be there are more of the infiltrators than not these days….–look for massive Chastisements in the near future, all predicted by Mystics/Saints for a very long time and clearly now occurring given the Earthquakes, plagues, locusts, volcanoes, and generally over the top nuttiness etc. opening up all over the Earth….

    • Replies: @Delta G
  6. Avianthro says:

    The Edelman Trust Barometer:

    Friedrich Nietzsche “On Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense”:

  7. The fact that we, who live inside the Empire, live in a reality-free world has a huge impact upon the actions of our rulers. After all, if nobody really believes in, or cares about, reality, then why should our rulers bother with making reality any better, especially for us?

    Those who live inside the Empire are bedazzled by the sophistry of the elites, like the senior official of the George W Bush administration, likely Karl Rove, quoted in Ron Suskind’s article:

    “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    They are the masters, we are just unworthy pupils and and lackeys. Take our money, please, take streams of it. Rule as you will.

    • Agree: bluedog
  8. We live in a permanent state of undeclared war. Congress has abdicated.

    During wartime the media must fall in line, pitch in and do their part to win. Bending and suppressing the truth is their mission.

    The media elites see themselves as an uber-class of omniscient Navigators. Truth is an irrelevant irritant.

  9. Cowboy says:

    Interesting but a lot loose ends dangling. I’ll pull this string:
    I’d like to see Saker discuss the heresy of caesaropapism especially in relation to the Russian Orthodox church and its relation to the Russian State.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  10. If a dunce believes his actions have no consequence,
    Then try nuclear weapons and hear the flatulence.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  11. Bill H says:

    The news broke that four Chinese generals were the perpetrators of the Equifax hack of, what?, two years ago. My immediate reaction was, “Yeah, right. And Epstein killed himself.” What do Chinese generals want my Social Security number for?

  12. Oh this is great. Guaido the cuck gets his comeuppance from Venezuelan patriots.

    • Replies: @IT'S ME
    , @Wally
    , @follyofwar
  13. The Scalpel says: • Website

    I posted this on an earlier thread, but it is relevant here.

    I have been a working full time in Emergency Medicine for over 20 years. I was a “Flight Surgeon” in the Army. Soldiers are notorious for playing up any combat related injury in order to qualify for disability and the financial benefits that flow from being categorized as being disabled. As far as we know, the most serious claimed injuries were “concussions.” As a practicing specialist in Emergency Medicine, I can explain that the diagnosis of “concussion” means, by definition, that no abnormality is seen on CT scanning of the brain. The diagnosis is made based on the injured person’s purely subjective complaints, i.e. whatever the allegedly injured person says. If the allegedly injured person says the right things, then a physician may call the symptoms that of a concussion. So, ultimately, a soldier would be diagnosed with a concussion because the soldier (who has financial benefits to gain) says so, and a physician does not dispute it.

    I have seen hundreds if not thousands of diagnoses of “concussion”. That diagnosis does not have to be supported by any specific findings or even a proper understanding of the diagnosis. It simply has to be entered in the record by a licensed physician. Once that diagnosis is on the medical record, it is up to subsequent providers to refute that diagnosis if they desire to do so. This is something subsequent providers are very unlikely to want to dedicate the time and effort required to accomplish. There is usually no financial or professional incentive to do so – often the opposite. There is no specific test to definitively say one way or the other if a person had a “concussion”. Like PTSD it is a “functional” diagnosis based mainly on subjective symptoms and not objective test results. This is not to say such things do not exist. They do exist. It is only to say that they can be faked or misinterpreted and that will happen if there is a financial incentive to do so.

  14. the Clintons next to whom Trump almost sounds like a paragon of honesty, integrity and an acute sense of decency.

    Oh come on. Trump is far and away the most corrupt President we have ever had. Second place probably goes to John F. Kennedy. Both Trump and Kennedy are/were intimate with mobsters and organized crime. Trump really has no sense of shame or honor whatsoever, he doesn’t need them.

    It is interesting that when rich people behave in insanely corrupt and self-dealing fashion most people don’t mind, even admire it. When lower middle class people like the Clintons try to climb the social ladder using similar methods people hate their guts. It goes to show how deeply our sense of relative social status determines our reactions to people. For example, a lot of people admire JFK and find Trump disgusting. Typically those are members (or wannabe members) of the upper middle class who see the Trump family as nouveau riche frauds who have no business pretending to be aristocracy. (Ironically of course Joseph Kennedy built his family’s wealth through even more criminal methods than Fred Trump, but the Kennedys knew how to adopt upper class mannerism. Plus JFK married a woman of good breeding and Trump keeps marrying sluts, for lack of a better word. )

  15. der einzige says: • Website

    How can someone (Tulsi “Champion of Freedom” Gabard) who, based on a lie, served two rounds in Iraq as impersonating the truth? How Sucker?

  16. Saul Alinski in his Rules for Radicals also posits that there is no means that cannot be justified because everything is subjective.

  17. onebornfree says: • Website

    “The truth is that lies have become the norm of the western political discourse.”

    Its important to understand the true fundamental nature of all governments. Not understanding their true nature leads to complaints/observations such as: “The truth is that lies have become the norm of the western political discourse.”

    Its a misconception to believe that this phenomena [“lies have become the norm of the western political discourse.”], is something “only” of recent creation. No, no, no, its always been this way – to believe otherwise is to engage in total, ongoing, self-delusion, and to seriously damage an individuals mental health.

    This “just” in:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt  criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.”   onebornfree

    The question is : once an individual reaches this depressing, reality-based conclusion, what can/should be done about it ?

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Kali
  18. One ancillary point: you’re missing the meaning of Vatican Council II. Giving up papal infallibility was no skin off the pope’s nose. By that point nobody wanted to hear about their unfalsifiable propositions. The catholic church did the only thing it could do to retain its moral authority: it adopted the world’s acknowledged categorical imperatives. Morality had been codified by universal acclamation, and if the church hoped to have any influence they would have to get with it. In accord with its highly successful tradition of syncretism, the Vatican incorporated human rights into church doctrine.


    When the clergy acted on the revolutionary implications of human rights, we had liberation theology for a while and the church mattered again. But then CIA stuffed mass graves full of dismembered priests and nuns until the church backed off economic and social rights and now all you hear in the USA is a fetus-hugging bowdlerization of the right to life. But experts in the curia will tell you that the means of life are every bit as sacred as the right to life.

    With Vatican II the church gave up trying to control positive discourse and hung on to their core competence in normative discourse. That’s just as well. Nowadays nobody gives a shit what Baby Jesus thinks. Now all we need is for governments to give up trying to tell us what to think. Our government is obligated to butt out by the same human rights law the Vatican acknowledged, UDHR Articles 18 and 19, but its CIA command structure is a throwback to premodern authoritarianism. That’s where all this propaganda comes from. CIA’s equivalent of Vatican II was PSB D-33/2, which says “we’ll tell them what think.” They haven’t given up. They won’t until we purge them and march their children to re-education camps.

    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  19. Brutiss says:

    Saker, you also lie.

    Besides lying that christ is the path to salvation you disallow comments critical of Jihad against idol worshippers on your Pakistan post.

    There’s a reason no one in Russia respects you and you live in exile.

  20. @The Scalpel

    I’m sure your assessment is accurate, and is symptomatic of a much more general problem affecting the axis of medicine, insurance, pharma, and state pension systems (military or civilian), not to mention all corporations and agencies to various degrees.

    When doctors’ medical opinions are considered sacrosanct and sufficient to secure payouts, excuse time off from work, and add one’s name to the list of medically “made men,” they are certain to be pursued like bounty on the high seas. No small number of doctors are content to play along with this system, as it secures a steady stream of income for them as well. Foreign doctors, who are often perfectly comfortable with graft and fraud, are especially bad in this regard.

    Employers are left with no recourse except to eat the cost of malingering employees and ever swelling pension rolls, which no employeer can long afford at the micro level and which society itself cannot afford at the macro level.

    Another complicating factor is added by the cultural obsession with business efficiency. When the VA scandal broke in 2014, a lot of people were upset by the thought that veterans were receiving shoddy care and insisted that “more must be done,” not realizing that this very insistance was at the root of the problem. I said at the time that the real lesson here was that the VA had been “Six-Sigma’ed” by incompetent management who demanded faster claims processing and unrealistic expenditure reductions.

    These schizophrenic cultural trends—viz., on the one hand, greater and greater demands for doles by an aging and sickening population; and, on the other hand, the feckless attempts to mitigate the very real unaffordability of this by an oligarchic business philosophy that knows only how to downsize, offshore, and automate based on a naive reliance on the dubious benefits of technology—are going to culminate in an epic breakdown of social functioning over the next decade.

    • Agree: The Scalpel
    • Replies: @lavoisier
  21. once an individual reaches this depressing, reality-based conclusion, what can/should be done about it ?

    Boycott “government”!

  22. Vince says:

    It’s the power of money – the bankster clique has created this alternative reality & it is sustained(so far) by the power of money.

    • Replies: @Monotonous Languor
  23. Delta G says:

    Whether the Catholic Church self destructed under it own weight of Sin or whether it was God who sent in the outsiders to destroy the Church appearing to be insiders makes no real difference does it?

    The only Hope for the Latins as the Saker refers to them is to return to the Orthodox Christian Church and forgive themselves for losing their way.

    Of course all the Protestant Progeny of the Original Catholic Blasphemy would need to do the same.

    Jews need to grow up and recognize the Christ as the Son of God and Muslims need to reject the False Prophet Mohammed and join with their Kindred in the true Christian Church.

    The World today would be a much better place.

    Yes rejection of Reality is a serious problem and Lying is the worst of all Sins. Because Lying is the basis for all of the other Sins.

    • Replies: @getaclue
    , @anonymous
  24. @Cowboy

    Church and ruler are sometimes friends, as in Putin’s Russia:

    Qui diligit cordis munditiam,
    propter gratiam labiorum suorum habebit amicum regem. Prov. 22:11 Vulgate

    He that loveth cleanness of heart,
    for the grace of his lips shall have the king for his friend. Prov. 22:11 Douay-Rheims

  25. @The Scalpel

    Perhaps you need to return to medical school for a refresher. A “concussion” may, or may not, be seen as an abnormality, usually subdural haematoma, on a CT scan. The reason for requesting the CT scan would be from the patient reported complaints, but also from the objective medical examination for things like pupils and reaction. Radiation is not good for you. If you are ordering CT scans before examination, you’ve got it backwards.

    • Replies: @The Scalpel
  26. While I very much agree with your overall assessment, you have been hoist on your own petard.

    Hitler never had a “1000 year Reich”. It was a Reich of 1000 years, the length of time a German state had existed. The First Reich was the Holy Roman Empire circa 800-1806, the Second was the German Empire, 1871-1918, and the Third Reich was the Wiemar Republic (not “Hitler’s” Reich) which, in 1955, the German Constitutional Court declared still existed as the rightful government of Germany.

    As for the reliance on Mein Kampf, it’s been almost 50 years since I read it, so I may be off somewhat. However, as a political manifesto, it like any other political manifesto, was never carried out in totality. Was Hitler a dictator? Someone who knew him personally didn’t think so.

    • Replies: @Wally
  27. @Brutiss

    lying that christ is the path to salvation

    How do you know this?

    • Replies: @Brutiss
  28. anon[364] • Disclaimer says:

    Seeker of the Presence, actually, anent 26, the authors of the foundational human rights document were American, Canadian, Chinese, and Lebanese with significant inputs from a Brit and a Frenchman, so you may want to adjust your nativist Beevis-and-Butthead sniggering accordingly. On the other hand, since the document was adopted by every UN member nation as a requisite for any sovereign state, you could deride it based on whichever kind of wogs you hate most!

  29. Max Payne says:

    There are no causalities… you guys over estimate the steadfastness of the US military.

    Purple heart = disability cheque.

    No one can disprove a concussion.

    And that’s the real embarrassment that the Pentagon is trying to hide.

    These guys (US forces) teach other how to fake PTSD to get on disability. I’ve seen it countless times in Western armed forces. Its how I know Iran will never be invaded or even bombed back to the stone age. You have to have balls for that and clearly the West and Israel have none. (Bush invaded Iraq on the premise of an empty vial; the Iranian counterattack was a legit no-shit missile attack on US forces and…. NOTHING HAPPENED).

    As for reality… I have colleagues who are so disconnected from international politics that reality (past their 9-5 job) means nothing. Reality won’t kick in until it comes home to bite them in the ass. It’s that simple. A programmer who does nothing for 10 years but play games and write software, what does he care about causalities in Iraq? Seriously. For him that was a 20 second twitter feed which entertained him on his way to work and that’s it.

  30. GuestAug says:

    This should be no surprise. “The first causality of [any] war is the truth.”

  31. getaclue says:
    @Delta G

    Your comment is weird at best. This is what is basically agreed on: “The “catholic” Church is the universal church, the global communion of all these local churches. It has been called this since at least around A.D. 100. The “orthodox” Church is the ‘right-teaching’ church, a term in use since at least around A.D. 530.”– No one but you seems to claim different — somehow you have the Roman Catholic Church splitting off and that is not historically accurate. “Charlemagne’s crowning made the Byzantine Emperor redundant, and relations between the East and the West deteriorated until a formal split occurred in 1054. The Eastern Church became the Greek Orthodox Church by severing all ties with Rome and the Roman Catholic Church — from the pope to the Holy Roman Emperor on down.”

    Further, the Sacraments of both Churches are recognized by each (with the exception of some small Orthodox splinter groups– maybe you’re in one?) as VALID — thus your statements are bizarre? Seems the Orthodox have their own problems at the moment: And a little research can show that the Orthodox have sex abuse problems of their own: So not really sure what “Orthodox Christian Church” your referencing and if it some kind of splinter.

    As far as the Roman Catholic Church– St. Gertrude The Great, among her other privileges based on her sanctity, was allowed to see in Heaven that the Mass there is what is now called the Traditional Latin Mass– The Mass that was the Catholic Churches’ Mass for most all of its 2,000 years until the Masonic Vatican 2. In researching the Saints your view is not supported as to the whatever “Orthodox Christian Church” your talking about — I’ll go with Saint Gertrude and the other Saints on this. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Matt07924
  32. macilrae says:

    We just don’t care anymore.

    We have been completely desensitized not only to truth, but even to reality.

    So what, right?

    We have all effectively become islands, safely isolated in our rage (if rage we possess) from the possible masses of others who think alike – by the lack of a forum and a free press.

    The only thing left to do is rise up – but look at those around you and even yourself – is that likely to happen anytime soon?

  33. The Scalpel says: • Website

    Perhaps you have heard the old proverb, “It is best to keep your mouth shut and have people suspect you are ignorant, than to open it and prove to people that you are ignorant”

    A subdural hematoma is (let me say this slowly for you) a sudural hematoma. A concussion is (again slowly) a concussion. They are two separate diagnoses.

    Concussion: ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code S06.0
    Traumatic Subdural Hematoma: ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code S06.5X0A

    Pretty good chance you don’t know what these codes mean. If not, there is this thing called Google. Look it up.

    “things like pupils and reaction”

    WTF? I think you might be trying to describe testing for pupils being reactive to light (the normal state of affairs.) Abnormally reactive pupils are not required for the diagnosis of concussion and, in fact, are not usually present.

    Radiation is not good for you. If you are ordering CT scans before examination, you’ve got it backwards.

    That, in fact, is all true. What is not true is that I made any sort of suggestion at all to order tests before an exam. You need to lay off the hash pipe.


    Concussion: A concussion is a type of brain injury. It is a short loss of normal brain function in response to a head injury. Concussions are a common type of sports injury. You can also suffer from one if you suffer a blow to the head or hit your head after a fall. After a concussion, you may have a

    headache or neck pain. You may also experience nausea, ringing in your ears, dizziness, or tiredness. You may feel dazed or not your normal self

    for several days or weeks after the injury.

    All these symptoms are subjective, i.e. they are basically what the patient reports – truthfully or not.

    FWIW, I have found the most reliable symptom in diagnosing concussion is short term memory loss. The patient asks the same question over and over as if he never got an answer.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  34. @anon

    Who is “anent 26”?

    Not sure I want to know.

  35. “The worst is not that western politicians lie, the worst is that almost nobody cares.’

    Now that is a powerful truth indeed.

  36. “Understanding Why They Lie and Why They Get Away with It”

    I find the article somewhat jumbled, but its author has managed a few powerful truths on an important subject.

    This phrase does hit the mark, “life in a reality-free world”

    It is indeed a realty-free world when it comes to America’s activities abroad.

    But perhaps there should be little surprise at the fact.

    Empire is inherently oppressive and anti-democratic.

    We have a tiny percentage of the world’s population (America has roughly five percent of world’s population, but America’s establishment, the people who truly count, represent a tiny fraction of one percent) telling everyone else what to do.

    And America uses a great deal of violence to enforce its will – bombing, insurgencies, assassinations, wars, and coups. It cannot be otherwise.

    In some cases, as with allies, it uses only the pressure of its globally-dominant financial institutions and markets, but that is still coercion, and it is very unwelcome.

    Even granting American elections are somewhat democratic, the fact means nothing to those being forced to do what they do not wish to do.

    Power is power no matter how granted, as by election, and abuse of that power is abuse no different than abuse by any other kind of government.

    From the world’s point of view, America is a form of authoritarian government, and all authoritarian governments lie about what they are doing.

    No one likes being openly credited with oppression and killing and theft. That is true even for governments as notorious in our memories as Stalin’s or Hitler’s or the former junta in Argentina, but it is equally true for America in its affairs abroad or for Israel in its affairs with its neighbors.

    All that dirty work requires a lot of lying to cover over. America still likes to think of itself as descending from that small group of men pledging their sacred honors, and of course that is an absurd contradiction with today’s reality.

    Despite those who work to inform themselves often recognizing the lies, they are a small minority of any society, and I think the lying, on the whole, does work. Much as with the tiresome and threadbare claims of commercial advertising, a sizable part of the population accepts them, or at least does not question them, having no motive for close examination.

    And there is no need for guilt on the part of officials doing the lying. If you don’t feel guilty about killing and stealing, why would you feel guilty about some mere lies?

    As crimes of empire, lies are just pocket change.

    I’ve said many times that you can have an empire or you can have a decent country, but you cannot have both. America long ago chose empire.

    You can take that principle a step further: you can have an empire or you can have a democratic state, but you cannot have both.

    To say otherwise is as absurd as Israel’s claim to being a democracy while it occupies and abuses millions who enjoy no rights.

  37. onebornfree says: • Website

    ” Why They Lie and Why They Get Away with It”

    Believing anything any government says is true is a recipe for disaster.Even a “comedian” knew that much:

    “My first rule- I don’t believe anything the government tells me- nothing!- ZERO!” George Carlin

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Crazy Horse
    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
  38. @The Scalpel

    I’m well aware of what a CT is, I was doing them more than 40 years ago, likely before you were in med school. I know what a concussion is, I’ve had one, and went through the examination. If you actually read my response, I did not say that every concussion resulted in a subdural haematoma.
    Patient reaction includes memory loss. Dizziness is what a patient reports. Of course what patients report is subjective, just as pain tolerance is, but it doesn’t invalidate them.

  39. The Scalpel says: • Website

    I never said or implied that you did not know what a CT scan is. I think I get it now. You really are a curmudgeon (as in elderly) and your cognitive abilities are flagging. I am sorry for being rude earlier. As you may recall, the point being made was that a simple concussion is not visible on CT scan. A subdural hematoma is visible – as well as many other traumatic brain injuries, . A concussion is not visible. Subjective complaints are not invalid. They are as honest as the person making the complaint.

  40. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

    Above is dubiously attributed to Goebbels, who himself riffed off Hitler’s Mein Kampf passage on the subject, but Goebbels clearly picked up on the theme in Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik with this:

    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

    Which we witnessed in spades recently in a number of things, like the Novichok poisoning cases. America has clearly picked up the mantle on this.

  41. Brutiss says:

    Christcuck detected.

    The bible says christ is son of god so he must be lol

    Viewing abrahamic religion from a consequentialist viewpoint will show you that it’s net negative.

    Which is an understatement.

    Either way you tyrants will be destroyed by Khalsa so 🤷‍♀️

  42. Here I am reminded of a former US intelligence agency head honcho, William Casey’s words:

    “By the time we finish with the American people, they won’t know what to believe.”

    There’s 4 points here:

    1. Generally speaking, the reason why propaganda (aka brainwashing) is so, so effective in the Western (so-called) ‘liberal democracies’ is because Westerners are not expecting it – unless of course they have developed their ability for critical thinking, by asking themselves such questions as:

    i) why is this information being presented?;
    ii) why is this information being presented in this manner?; &/or
    iii) why is this information being presented at this point in time?

    2. There’s no better understanding as to why the Elites (who I prefer to call the Cabal) lie than Paul Craig Roberts’ short, concise article: Cover Stories are Used to Control Explanations See:

    “Years ago James Jesus Angleton left me with the impression that when an intelligence agency … pulls off an assassination, bombing, or any event with which the agency does not wish to be associated, the agency uses the media to control the explanation by quickly putting into …”

    3. The reason why the Cabal must control explanations is to maintain Plausible Deniability. Maintaining Plausible Deniability is crucially important to keep the general public believing in, and functioning, in the politico-economic system (which is essentially exploitative).

    4. Specifically, re: CNN, it is owned by Northrupp Grumann (why would an armaments manufacturer need to own/operate a TV/online news network?, I hear you ask) and hence is a propaganda organ of the US Military Industrial Complex (MIC). In order to defend yourself against propaganda – next time you find yourself viewing a CNN “exclusive”, know for sure the ‘report’ is purely propaganda.

  43. @Brutiss

    Your words are as honorable as those of the original Brutus.

    “But Brutus is an honorable man.”

  44. One of the most blatant lies of this past decade:

    • Replies: @Crazy Horse
  45. IT'S ME says:
    @Priss Factor

    Oh how wonderful ! ! !

  46. Is there really anybody out there who will deny that the US government lies pretty much about everything and anything?

    Is there a reason to preface the word government with US in that sentence?

  47. For once, ‘The Saker’ (what a ridiculous appellation) finally nails it…

    You can believe that either God created Man, or else that Man created God.
    You can believe that either organized Christianity truly represents God on earth, or else that belief in God must rise above Christian denominations.
    Either illusion is all there is, or else there is an independent reality.
    Either the objective Truth of the Logos is grounded in reality, or else there is no truth at all.

    And the final most universal dichotomy: If you are of the one kind, then you absolutely cannot co-exist with the other.

  48. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    Venezuelan “patriots”? LOL

  49. kikl says:

    “Understanding Why They Lie and Why They Get Away with It.”

    Why they lie is easy, so I don’t want to adress that. Why do they get away with it?

    1. The mass media repeat the lies ad nauseam. Thus, most people eventually believe the lies.

    2. Most people want to believe the lies. Why? Well, realizing that you’ve been duped is painfull and Americans want to believe that their country is noble and good.

    3. They must fear virtually no consequences when their lies are exposed.

    But things are gradually changing.

    I think the story of 9/11 is a case in point. In spite of clear evidence for the controlled demolition of world trade towers, 1, 2 and 7, the media still repeats the same old lies and defames anyone who may not go along with lying by calling them truthers and “conspiracy theorists”. Indeed the term “truther” has become a smear. But due to the internet, 9/11 truth has become very popular.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  50. @Vince

    “Money”, “Greed”, “the 1%”, “MORE greed”, “MORE money”, on and on and on and on and…

    If you ever pull your mind from out of that hackneyed little box, be sure to come back and let us know.

  51. Wally says:

    – Mein Kampf “translations” are routinely wrong, intentionally so.

    – And of course Zionist claims about it are easily refuted by noting the complete lack of proof for such claims.

    Rethinking “Mein Kampf”, By Thomas Dalton :
    Most Accurate Mein Kampf English translation?:

  52. Avianthro says:

    We’ll never get anywhere in answering questions of this nature unless we begin with a scientific approach and here’s just one of a number of relevant article from the field of evolutionary psychology:

    “Effortful control, explicit processing, and the regulation of human evolved predispositions.”

    Evolutionary psych is a relatively young field but one that deserves a lot more attention.

    As Francis Bacon realized hundreds of years ago, we humans live in a world of idols that we make for ourselves and that then come to control us. Science (the scientific method and spirit of patient and disciplined truth seeking) is the only tool we have for wiping out the idols so that we can be free from their control.

  53. Rollmop says:

    You misunderstand papal infallibility. It has only ever been applied twice, for doctrinal reasons. Vatican II (which I am no fan of) has no impact on papal infallibility.

    • LOL: ploni almoni
    • Replies: @Hibernian
  54. slorter says:

    I could not agree more !

  55. JackOH says:

    The Saker, thanks.

    I’m only an occasional reader of yours, and, at best, a modest fan of Chris Hedges, but his admirable Empire of Illusions is a fine example of authorial overreach that is persuasive anyway.

  56. Howard Zinn was a lying degenerate POS, anti-white and anti-Christian to the core.

    His filthy books are required reading at every marxist indoctrination center in America.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  57. @kikl

    9/11 truth may have become very popular on the internet ,but the mainstream media is still repeating the lies about Muslim hijackers and fires bringing down the Twin Towers , try convincing a family member , a friend or neighbor that 9/11 was an “inside job”. I have tried but it’s an impossible task as politicians and the media continue to repeat the big lie . Even today , for a politician to tell the truth about 9/11 would be to touch “the third rail” and they would be pilloried by the CIA’s “Mockingbird” media .

  58. dimples says:

    The Saker:
    “The worst is not that western politicians lie, the worst is that almost nobody cares.”

    Not true. The masses believe the lies otherwise they would not be effective. Plausible deniability, trust in media personalities, suppression of evidence, all are factors in producing a ‘normal’ paradigm that keeps the masses on the consensus path

    When I was a young conspiracy theorist I continually had difficulty with my brain wanting to go back into its comfortable non-conspiracist rut. Surely I kept thinking, the US government would never do anything like, for example, shoot JFK in the head and cover it up. Eventually I had to force it into accepting the evidence. It protested for about a week, then magically jumped tracks and I no longer had to think twice about it.

    Since the masses never get to this point, their normal paradigm always channels them back into believing the lies. Democrats actually believe Obama didn’t lie, or if he did there must have been some sound reason for it. Trump followers believe the same thing about Trump. Both sides see and don’t see lies according to their political persuasion.

    The only difference in the modern world is the presence of the internet, which allows a minority to obtain and check facts at least one hundred times more efficiently than in prior eras. The negative side of the internet sadly is that it is a pool of knowledge about one inch deep. The lies of the other side of politics are more visible, but the lies of your own side are invisible or more excusable.

  59. As Nietzsche put it, “The strength of a person’s spirit would then be measured by how much ‘truth’ he could tolerate, or more precisely, to what extent he needs to have it diluted, disguised, sweetened, muted, falsified.”

    So it is for the collective spirit of a broken people, a people whose history has been systematically purged and falsified, whose gods have died, who don’t know or care to know their neighbors, for whom little matters but bread and circus subsistence.

  60. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Why They Lie and Why They Get Away with It”

    Why? Its very simple once one understands the true, core nature of all governments:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt  criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.”   onebornfree

    “People do not expect to find chastity in a whorehouse. Why, then, do they expect to find honesty and humanity in government, a congeries of institutions whose modus operandi consists of lying, cheating, stealing, and if need be, murdering those who resist? “. H. L. Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

  61. The King’s word is the law, and at the very top, they do whatever they want. They manage the narrative and the coalition that supports them has a perpetual obligation to maintain that narrative, forever. It does not matter who is in control.

  62. @Brutiss

    Had to look up “Khalsa.” A very modest amount of effort, and immediately rewarded by a good belly-laugh. 1699, indeed. That does predate Joseph Smith by a bit, so at least you’re not the most junior Komedy Kult on the block. Congratulations … I think …

  63. Smith says:

    The whole world current creation myth lies on the Holohoax, a lie. No wonder why lies and more lies pile up.

  64. Not only the Executive and the Legislative branches are corrupt but most notably the non-Protestant, Jewish and Catholic filled Supreme Court is almost as corrupt, if not more.

    When Barney “the fat Jew” Frank used to be in the House of Representatives, at least we knew that beside giving felatio, his interest lied in helping the cause of his own people but with androgynous Lindsay Graham you can never tell for which side he is working. And until America can be sure of its White-Christian-Protestant sons and daughters, ain’t nothing gonna change for the better!

  65. Anonymous[308] • Disclaimer says:

    A rambling essay, going from concussions to the Catholic Church to the recent US presidents.

    Yes, politicians lie. Nothing new. So what?

    And if there were some actual fatalities during the Iranian retaliation, it is still best for all parties to minimize them. The alternative is to escalate in to a more serious conflict. Nobody wants that.

  66. Holding up Howard Zinn and Ollie Stone as paragons of truth?

    In the timeless words of Sideshow Bob: “No truth-handler, you. I deride your truth-handling abilities!”

  67. @The Scalpel

    Are you suggesting that The Greatest Fighting Force in the Galaxy in All of History, the military of the world’s Exceptional Nation, is riddled with grifters?

    • Agree: The Scalpel
    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  68. sally says:

    I deny your claim. The USA Government has never lied, not once.

    Denying liars is the beginning of everyone else’s freedom.

    The government has never, ever lied, in can neither tell the truth nor lie. Government is a structure, its an an expression of an abstraction that dictates the form and constraints of an underlying functioning organization.. In my opinion it is important for the minds of mankind to teach themselves to separate human things and human acts from things humanized such as inanimate objects, animations and the like. Unless we separate non human from human we can never ever identify in the minds of mankind, the facts needed to assign the false hood to a person, and to make that person pay the price for his or her lie.

    The USA, a government designed to empower a few to rule the masses of humanity within its reach, cannot lie, cannot tell the Truth. Colin Powell’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Speech, altered millions of lives. Immunity for lying exist because neither the USA Constitution nor underlying government it dictates, make lying actionable either criminally or civilly. A person harmed by a law should be able to recover against the person that uttered the lie. (<=not one politician has offer a law against lying. No court, I am aware of, has recognizes harms caused by lying to be recoverable by those harmed by the lie. Yet any citizen that lies under oath is a criminal? So do we just need to add to the oath of office that it is a duty and obligation of the person that holds the office not to lie?

    Citizens cannot bring a liar to a USA court for his or her lies, I have for years wondered if lying is a Tort. <=if courts recognized lying as a tort eligible for recovery Trump would be always in transit between Tort Courts till broke. .. It is not alright to lie. Lying is not a social event or custom.

    Accepting as normal, lying <=is one of the giant reasons we citizens have no means to deny those who use their positions in government to engage corruption and to commit atrocities against mankind . Think how different our world would be if no one was allowed to get away with a lie.

    The media is the biggest liar of them all, and if citizens were smart, citizens would all boycott any media and sponsor who engage in any lie.

    • Replies: @Biff
  69. This amazingly well thought out analysis will be added to DaLimbraw Library for future reference because it perfectly complements and characterizes my own personal experience of overcoming presuppositions and binary thinking which kept me from seeing the real world – and which I still see darkly – as the Apostle Paul wrote.
    Only by relentless reading over the last 15-20 years from various sources did the dawn begin to arrive for me – and which I am sharing on my website and the linked library for others – that before one can ‘see’, you have to remove the filters which prevent you from seeing.
    These ‘filters’ have been purposely established from our past indoctrination and as Paul also wrote, ‘we are not dealing with flesh and blood but wicked spirits in high places’ – Ephesians 6:12.
    No single person or collection of humans can coordinate what has been going on for eons! It’s Old Scratch at his wicked best!
    About 10 days ago I posted this – – but beware, it’s for patient readers only!

  70. The zionists lie to us because they have complete control over us, they own the ZUS government via their ownership of the money creation aka the FED and IRS and from this comes complete control, as Nathan Rothschild infamously said, I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the British empire, for the man who controls the money supply controls the British empire and I am that man.

    It is the same here in the ZUS the zionists aka Rothschilds and company control the money supply and control the people, and can lie and cheat and send young naive Americans to fight and die in the mideast for the zionist greater Israel project, that is the damn truth!

    America is a zionist plantation and we are the slaves!

    • Agree: DaveE
  71. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    the illusion of …

    Something of even more relevance to much of the world should be the Illusion of God-awareness.

    They who believe in the whole nonsensical pagan abomination of, God created man in-his-image… God is man-like… man is God-like.

    So, who might they be?

    Christians, Judes, Hindoos, Orientals, … yes, much of the world wallows in the Reality of Godlessness.

  72. DanGood says:

    The corollary is: if everyone knows it’s a lie then it is not really a lie. It’s propaganda.

  73. In lieu of an normal introduction: the eternally evolving BDA

    BDA = Bomb Damage Assessment

  74. Tulsi Gabbard’s biggest lie was that she was lied to about Iraq so she was forced to go along with the lie because she didn’t know any better, which of course, is a lie.

    Some time ago a famous Government employee wrote a handbook suggesting that War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength.

    All wars and international tensions are lies designed to control the internal populations. For example, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, another Government employee, was the star of a famous US-Soviet project.

  75. So, the solution is to return to a society where the pre-schismatic Church ruled all, because back then no one in authority ever lied. Ignatius Reilly lives!

    First of all, sounds like a pretty pragmatic argument, making William James sound like Plotinus.

    Secondly, if that’s what it will take to fix things, then we are well and truly fucked.

  76. JImbobla says:

    God created man in his image. Man created Satan in his.

  77. Americans, and no doubt Westerners in general, have become the planets most Deluded people of all time.

    Delusion is all around us and we are supposed to sit quietly and say nothing to contradict it.

    Transgenderism, in my view, is symbolic of the epitome of delusion and it’s climax. People like Chelsea Manning (who I admire for exposing crimes in military) might change his name but he remains a man. Little Children are now taught in elementary schools about transgenderism to normalize it and now there is an explosion of Child abuse surrounding this issue with parents literally taking their kids in for mutilation and “drug therapy”.

    And who is standing up for these children? Another major Socially Acceptable delusion is pornography; where grown men (and women) can play out their increasing perverted fantasies….because they have no spiritual context left in their lives. So, we see little 6 year old girls like FAY SWETLIK murdered by a an adult man, who was likely devolved into the worse kind of pornographic Delusions.

    Delusions shoveled out to the masses from Political entities are only one side of the delusional story. The social engineering Delusions will make the biggest impacts on society as it crumbles.

  78. @JasonT

    I am there with you bro…I have been trying to wake family and friends for years now with barely any luck. I have gotten a few to start to see the illusion we live in so I guess that is a good thing. Once I broke through and found out what a fraud evolution was and that we were created it changed my life. The evil one rules the earth and this is his kingdom so I found out I can not beat him here by waking everyone I know but at least I broke free from him. Take care…..

    • Agree: Paul C.
  79. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Delta G

    Jews need to grow up and recognize the Christ as the Son of God and Muslims need to reject the False Prophet Mohammed…

    You pagans are weird. You talk about reality, especially in the context of Divinity, even when your deluded mangods-worshipping minds wouldn’t know what that is, if it slapped you in the face.

    So whoever Allah wants to guide – He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide – He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe. 6:125

    God is One, and the only One worthy of worship.

    The blessed Jesus PBUH said it, and the blessed Muhammad SAW said the same thing, as did every other prophet before them. Since you pagans claim the same thing, with some mind bending metaphors stitched on, how can Prophet Muhammad be false? Why, because he did not subscribe to the most pagan concept of “Son of God”?

    Dare I ask, what proof do you have about these pagan assertions? Unless you are a possessor of a time machine, I am pretty sure you don’t have it, except for some empty hearsay, so then who is really false?

    and join with their Kindred in the true Christian Church.

    Lol! Before you try exhorting muslims to join you, you should try convincing your own kind to stay back. You can work on us after that, and then we will convert you. You will thank us then. 😀

  80. Anon[170] • Disclaimer says:

    Vatican II labeled itself as a ‘pastoral’ council that explicitly excluded itself from promulgating new teaching. It was certainly twisted and used for nefarious ends (both during and after the council) but Vatican I is the last ‘teaching council’ and it is written clearly and does not introduce any novelties.

    Your entire article hinges on an error.

  81. Oracle says:

    It used to be the case that telling the truth was an important value held by everyone who wished to take part in the social contract. If people did not tell the truth, that was considered a significant moral failing on the part of the individual. Since introducing the alien value of telling the truth only to one’s in-group and granting permission to members of their in-group to tell lies to all out-groups— if there is an advantage to be had by lying—lying has become accepted and not frowned upon. Western civilization understood that truth is universal and individuals were to speak truthfully to all. If no one speaks truthfully, the whole thing falls apart, as we have seen.

  82. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Not sure I have “met” a Sikh guy here. Welcome, turbaned fellow.

    lying that christ is the path to salvation

    Yeah, like fanning a book day in and day out, and treating it like “god,” is the path to salvation?

    It is also ironic you talk about Abrahamic faiths somewhat disparagingly, because it is claimed that Sikhism is an amalgamation of pagan Hindooism and the strict monotheism of Islam.

    Minuscule cults like yours sometimes delude themselves of their importance. Your faith is simply inconsequential to most of mankind, mainly because it has been plagiarised from others. There is nothing original about it.

    For those who tend towards mangods belief, they have Hindooism, Christianity, etc., and those who prefer strict Monotheism, have Islam. Where does your mishmash faith fit in? Doesn’t your numbers prove this.

    So, please behave according to your worldly stature. If you are Indian, then keep your Aukhaat in mind.

  83. DaveE says:

    When a very smart and courageous man said, “Ye are of your father the Devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a liar and a murderer from the beginning who abides not in the truth, as there is no truth in him,” he gave us a VERY clear warning.

    Somehow, I don’t think He was doing it for His health.

    I’ll stay away from all the cockamamie Christian “interpretations” of this phrase and simply take the words at face value. Christ seems to say that there is a group of creatures, ethnically related, who are simply INCAPABLE of telling the truth. Creatures who are so arrogant and self-important that THEY get to tell everyone else what the truth is and that whatever THEY say to be true is the only truth that matters.

    Quite simply, Jews don’t seem to believe in objective (verifiable) truth. Or maybe they’re simply incapable of dealing with a God-given reality that transcends the superior ethnicity and intellect of his “chosen” race. I don’t know which it is, but one thing is clearly TRUE, objectively and verifiable: Jewish constant lying about nearly everything is rooted in something very, very deep-rooted and primeval.

    Some would say demonic, even.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  84. Crazy Horse says: • Website
    @Carlton Meyer

    You mean aside from pack of lies known as the 9/11 Commission Report, Warren Report and who can forget the WMD hoax? The Government has been lying from the beginning.

  85. Milton says:

    What a load of crap!

    Trump and Obama are on the same Team: Team Neocon. Trump has surrounded himself with some of the most vile Neocon swamp creatures imaginable: Haley, Bolton, Abrams, Kushner, Pompeo. Personnel is policy.

    As for those two Freemason Kabuki Theater Productions – Mueller Hoax and Impeachment Farce – Trump played his dutiful part, professional con-clown that he is: you’ll recall that while everyone was distracted with those two Deep State Productions, Trump bombed Syria on a pack of lies, he refused to declassify the sealed JFK assassination records, he continued arming and supporting Obama’s neo-Nazi Junta currently occuyping Kiev, he supported the USMCA, and he prostrated himself before the Zionists and Wahhabists.

    Nice try, though.

  86. Gert says:

    The worst is not that western politicians lie, the worst is that almost nobody cares.

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

    – John Stuart Mill

  87. A lie to die for–
    “America is great because America is good.”
    Millions of lives torn,
    Blood-fisted ‘Murika sacked the planet because it could.

  88. Something isn’t right with Saker.

    Howard Zinn and Oliver Stone as honest? That’s the single most retarded thing I’ve read on Unz.
    The man’s jealousy of Catholicism is unsettling.

    He is starting to betray a hatred for America. Not the government, not the banana empire, but heritage America.
    I can’t respect an immigrant who hates their chosen host nation.
    You want to be Russian, go back to Russia. We have enough traitors and foreign invaders to deal with, as it is.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  89. @Priss Factor

    When I clicked it, it said “The media cannot be played.” Seems like that is happening to me a lot lately. But there’s no censorship going on, right?

  90. Biff says:

    if citizens were smart, citizens would all boycott any media and sponsor who engage in any lie.

    That’s a really big “if”… Citizens rely on the media – it comforts them/shapes their world/loves them, and the citizens love it back. It’s absence would induce mass hysteria..

  91. RJ Rock says:

    if all religions were equally “true” (this is logically impossible, but never mind that)

    This is not logically impossible. It is, in fact, a true statement.

  92. The first time I saw German #PresseKodex12.1, I was shocked.
    I was shocked again when it was unveiled that in democratic free countries government shuts up police, teachers, scientists.

    They have strict gag orders to cover up “minority” crime, sexual assaults, rapes, robberies, intimidation, and mayhem.

    I was shocked that the gag orders are socially acceptable:

    There is no strong opposition, no wide spread protest against this condescending, undemocratic, disenfranchisement of the population? #TrueSpeech and free speech are not permissible.

    Disobedience of PresseKodex12.1 would be world changing. Truth telling would entail a TruthRevolution.

    This UNZ article is about complex lies about general political issues. Our site focuses on the PC lies regarding the dogma of egalitarism and equality of sexes, genders, religions, races. The disregard for truth, described in the UNZ article, might be a consequence of the basic mandatory omission and lies we describe: “Never mention any fact that is offensive to ‘minorities’ in order to avoid ‘prejudice’”

    Admirable quote from UNZ >>>>
    The worst is not that western politicians lie, the worst is that almost nobody cares.

    That is really scary.


    Because in a society which expects everybody to lie, facts simply don’t matter any more.

  93. @Hilaire Belloc

    Both the Saker and Dmitry Orlov are completely insane and feckless douchebags who are not worthy of a serious man’s attention. Their motivations I will leave for others to ponder. They are living in the United States because Russia will not have them.

    If you are just now figuring this out, welcome to the club. Better late than never.

    • Replies: @The Grim Joker
  94. Johnwho says:

    ‘When somebody like Tulsi Gabbard or Ron Paul don’t abide by this rule, the media immediately dismisses them as “Putin agents” or something equally insipid.’
    I have always been a big fan of Tulsi for here platform of less war, but she has to branch out and talk about all the other issues too.

  95. Hibernian says:

    Many people think that the Pope is infallible, or rather that we Catholics think he is, when he orders eggs for breakfast. There is no use trying to persuade these people otherwise.

  96. Hibernian says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Mr. Zinn made a big deal of stating that in Philadelphia the poor got their water from the polluted Delaware and the rich got theirs from the allegedly clean Schuylkill. This ignores three points:

    The Schuylkill in Philadelphia is downstream from historically industrial Reading.

    Rich people are naturally going to bid up the price of rel estate in areas with good schools, nice views, and also better water. It’s not a conspiracy as Zinn is implying.

    There are to this day nice neighborhoods, in far NE Philadelphia, close to the Delaware.

    A simple matter of geography, civil engineering, and economics, in a city between two rivers, becomes a capitalist conspiracy according to Zinn.

  97. Power is reality because it is the cause of war and suffering: but it is an illusion because it is transitory. Every empire thought it offered permanence: every empire has come to pass.

  98. Whether life is an illusion or not and therefore whether lying is an illusion or not, this is the way the world is. Its a useless exercise to try to understand why people lie (power ? money? prestige ? )??? but most times they themselves do not know why. How is this ? Because it has become a habit, a reflex.

    Folks who are basically honest think “Why did he/ she lie.? It was so foolish. I just cannot understand it!”. However the liar does not know either. So we drive ourselves crazy trying to figure out why.

    Politicians at all government levels are prone to this disease. It beats me why someone who can retire in luxury and chill all day on some tropical beach would lie to attain political office. Is power and prestige so important to them ?

    To drive safely one must assume all other road users are idiots and will do stupid things.

    To drive safely through this life one must assume all other travellers are liars, deceivers and dishonest.

    I believe if one does not use this as a guiding principle (and let the other person prove otherwise over time) one dooms oneself to a life of perpetual disappointment and betrayal.

    Consequently I dont believe a word that comes out of the mouth of most people because 99% of the time it is a bullshit and bare faced lie.

    Life becomes extremely simple and uncomplicated as a result !

  99. @Intelligent Dasein

    Right on. It is always entertaining that people from other countries bash the US and YET thy rush to live here and remain here.

    Orlov is touted as a “thinker” whatever that means but reassembles and regurgitates and presents what we all already know as some new view, some revolutionary philosophy, some clear vision of how the world operates, what is wrong and how it should be fixed.

    If we threw open the doors to immigration the rest of the world would empty and flood the US. Why oh why do blacks not immigrate to Africa, Moslems to other moslem countries ?

    The US has its problems, flaws and faults but ask anyone from anywhere in the world where they would live if the choice were solely theirs .

  100. ken19 says:

    JFK was a real tragedy. Lies, Lies, and more Lies. He was attempting the impossible in this evil world. He was trying to eliminate the deep state,,, revive real money and eliminate or reduce the intel agencies. When he went, so went America’s last chance.

    A movie that gives a decent possible scenario of the murder (IMO) called “Executive Action” with Burt Lancaster points out key lies in the governments assertion of one shooter, one bullet.

    Why is JFK, his brother and MLK so important? Because these lies were accepted by meek John Q Citizens with very little demand for truth. It promoted more and more lies like 911, WMD, et all.

    Today, everything output from government are lies or illusions and meek John Q. Citizens still buy into the lies as otherwise would require something to be done.

  101. Lone Wolf says:

    Sgt. Barnes:

    “…Are you smoking this shit so’s to escape from reality? Me, I don’t need this shit.

    I am reality.”

    From Oliver Stone “Platoon”

    The Gawker’s take on reality and delusion, and his mentioning Oliver Stone’s movies as “best sellers,” just clicked on memories of Sgt. Barnes memorable quote in “Platoon,” after his killing of Sgt. Elias,

    “I am reality.”

    He makes some good points, if punctuated by his proverbial “intellectual” arrogance, typical in European/Russian analysts, prevalent in what Trotsky appropriately called “old bastard Europe.” However, his ignorance about many of the points he touched upon is visible to any reader with a modicum education in a cursory reading of his article. Regardless, I thank him for his calling my attention to Col. Cassad’s take on Trump’s “casualty count,” worth to read in full, if short. Col. Cassad is both incisive and funny, even via Google Translate.

    To the points.

    The Gawker launches on a diatribe against the Catholic church, as one of the many creators of a delusional reality. Though I agree on the main points, e.g. the contribution of the Catholic church to obscurantism, their ingrained pedophilia and other negative aspects, I will contest his take on Vatican II. He states that

    “the Papacy decided to commit suicide and organized the Vatican II Council,”

    and adds that

    “…This ill-advised attempt to show “Roman Catholicism with a human face” resulted in a total failure.”


    Is that “real,” or is just a concoction in the Gawker’s self-made reality?


    Vatican II begun in 1962 under Pope John XXIII with his famous quote “…open the windows and let in the fresh air…,” a symbolic call for renovation of a stultified, ankylosed church. It closed under Pope John Paul VI, which worked hard to backtrack on the reforms John XXIII wanted to implement, mainly the insertion of the Catholic church as a servant in the socioeconomic and political sphere, and the preaching of the Gospel in the pursuit of justice and social change.

    Vatican II was a revolution of sorts, and a harbinger of revolutions to come. Many theologians became “infected” with the new virus and Liberation Theology was born, a theoretical doctrine where Jesus met “Che” Guevara, and a practical tool for mass organization in Latin America, Asia and Africa, all inspired by the new doctrine, where countless priests, nuns, bishops, and archbishops were assassinated next to tens of thousands of peasants, churches desecrated upon, rituals and gatherings forbidden, just for walking on “the preferential option for the poor” that Vatican II instigated.

    The Gawker statement that Vatican II was a “total failure,” only reveals his profound ignorance turned arrogance, and a big hole in his history education, in which the Third World doesn’t exist. After all his motto is

    “a bird’s eye view of the vineyard”

    from a Eurocentric delusional sense of…reality?

    His calling the Catholic church “Latin,” though proper, doesn’t hide his derogatory intentions, as if the Eastern Orthodox church were a collection of saints. Russians are falling back into the obscurantism the Orthodox church kept them for centuries, now becoming an integral part of Putin’s Russia new hegemonical (Gramsci) superstructure (Marx).

    Another surreal statement from the Gawker was to call Trotsky’s essay “Terrorism and Communism” (it clearly says in the intro to the essay Trotsky didn’t like the “Dictatorship and Democracy” title)

    “…brilliant, if clearly satanic…,”

    adding insult to injury by comparing Trotsky’s essay to Hitler’s “Main Kampf.” Using the word “satanic” on a man that was an unabashed Marxist, is the closer the Gawker gets to show his disturbed sense of reality.

    Trotsky’s biographer, Isaac Deutscher, in his preface to his monumental trilogy on Trotsky’s life wrote,

    “Carlyle once wrote that as Cromwell’s biographer he had to drag out the Lord Protector from under a mountain of dead dogs, a huge load of calumny and oblivion. My job, as Trotsky’s biographer, has been somewhat similar…”

    Not even Stalin, Trotsky’s fiercest enemy and assassin by proxy, would have dared to call an essay by Trotsky “satanic.” The Gawker just added one more dog to the mountain, only showing once more his sense of reality is Gawker-made.

    Trotsky has been demonized as the inspiration for the Neocons, as if Trotsky could be blamed for anyone turning his revolutionary doctrines upside down, using them as a tool for oppression. Sun Tzu’s “Art of War,” is being used by corporations to defeat their competition mercilessly, bastardizing his Taoist-based approach to conflict. Can we blame Sun Tzu for the vulgarization of his principles? Maybe in the Gawker-made reality.

    I am not at Trotskyite by far, but my sense of history has nothing but contempt for these bloody Russians who don’t give Trotsky the historical credit he deserves as a co-architect of the first proletarian revolution in history, and as a builder of the glorious Red Army, whose victories allowed the 1917 revolution to breath and survive from the stranglehold the Western-financed White Armies had on the nascent state.

    Where would these Trotsky hatemongers be, but living in the dark ages the rotten Russian aristocracy had them for centuries? The Gawker would probably be cutting wood for his hut somewhere in the Urals or Siberia, a more realistic exercise that pouring his mental diarrhea upon us.

    Finally, his game of “moral relativity” with the Trump analogy as a bearer of virtues, in comparison with the Clintons et al, is nauseating to say the least, has been responded by many other posters, and before I start gagging, I better hurry to finish up with a quote from Shaykh Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah Secretary General, who has never been to the US, but has a better grasp on reality than the Gawker.

    “…All the regional peoples must be prepared for the key confrontation, according to Sayyed Nasrallah who added that Trump’s administration is the most arrogant, unjust, Satanic and corrupt in the US history…”

    Nasrallah knows how to appropriately use the word “satanic,” much better than the Gawker, who, like the infamous Sgt. Barnes in Stone’s “Platoon” seem to be declaring,

    “I am reality.”

    Me, I don’t need his shit. 🙂

    Lone Wolf

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  102. @The Grim Joker

    Because power – like wealth – confers distinction.

    So, if a person has very low self esteem, a lack of self worth, or maybe even self-loathing – they will attempt to compensate, compensate, compensate for it by needing to be noticed by others or wanting to feel ‘important’ in the world.

  103. anarchyst says:
    @Lone Wolf

    The beginning of the end of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church Vatican II Ecumenical Council of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the “modernization” of the Catholic Church.

    Much Catholic ritual and doctrine was discarded or changed, in order to reflect the “age” that we live in, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day.

    The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for his crucifixion and death. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) to do their “dirty work” for them…

    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its universality. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.

    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new Modern Mass and the New Church, in general. It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.

    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an actor, diminishing his status and importance.

    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church dogma or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops.

    Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations, nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.

    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.
    Fortunately, there are Catholic organizations that subscribe to pre-Vatican II principles, one being the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).

    • Replies: @Lone Wolf
  104. Smith says:

    Wait, The Saker is living in the US?

    Why is this always the case? The US always manages to house the people that hate it the most, no wonders the US fails.

    • Replies: @Matt07924
  105. @The Grim Joker

    AMEN ! I agree. You got my vote but I think to myself a man should self examine and ask himself how much of anything is enough. Is \$5M enough ? No? How about \$10M ? \$40M ? I once knew a guy making mega money who worked himself right into the grave at 50 leaving a wife and child behind. Not that it made any difference to them as he was never around. She and her new boyfriend now have a good time on the money (which was never enough) that he killed himself to earn.

    The same with power and prestige. It seems like insanity to wake up every day and have to lie and have to deal with all the others around who are also lying, cheating and stealing and double dealing in order to assuage feelings of inadequacy with power and prestige. Also boot licking and adhering to all political correctness………….

    My father used to say the man who does not want power has the power. To each his own but I feel like a millionaire, powerful and prestigious lying on a beach, smoking a cigar, having a drink, gazing into space with nothing to do all day and being able to tell anyone I feel like telling to fuck off….even if I only have a \$20 bill in my pocket.

    And THAT is no lie !

  106. Lone Wolf says:


    Some points you make are thought provoking, and are outside the scope of my response. My main point was on the positive effect Vatican II brought on the disenfranchised, who were told for centuries they were on this realm to suffer, paradise was waiting in the next. Your point about the universality of Latin during mass, and the priest facing the congregation instead of being their delegate, are well taken.

    Going back to the Council of Trent as the basics of doctrine for the Catholic Church, is a regression the church cannot afford, its very survival is at stake. The society you mentioned, Society of St. Pious, has been plagued with multiple controversies for their support of neo-Nazis, white supremacists and holocaust deniers, among others, and their going back to Tridentine doctrine didn’t save them from pedophilia and sexual abuse, many of their members have been convicted of such crimes.

    I agree with you that forbidding priests from marriage was a selfish decision to avoid church property to be passed over to their potential descendants. That issue is at the root of so much pedophilia and sexual degeneracy in the Catholic Church. Still, the Church continues to produce mystics, saints, and martyrs, regardless of the traps created by the bureaucracy. I thank you for your comments.

    Lone Wolf

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  107. anarchyst says:
    @Lone Wolf

    You are very welcome,

    Thank you for your concise response.

    Let me clarify my position…

    The Vatican II “Ecumenical Council” was a successful “coup” committed by jews and protestants against the Catholic Church.


    It is FACT that “crypto-jews” adopted Catholicism, gaining positions as priests and bishops as a long-term plan to infiltrate the Catholic Church and destroy it from within. This has been going on for approximately one-hundred years…

    As to the Vatican support of “neo-nazis” and “holocaust deniers” I must respectfully disagree.

    My position is that almost all “holocaust™” claims are a massive con, based on fabrications and lies, only used to extract shekels from the “goyim”. May I suggest that you at least look into “holocaust™” revisionism. The revisionists make many very valid points about the impossibility of almost all holocaust™ claims and the fraudulent claim of the “six-million”. Not only that, the numbers do not support the engineering that would have been required to “pull off” such a stunt. I ask you, if the holocaust™ is established fact, why are people being incarcerated for daring to question aspects of it? Truth cannot abide censorship.

    Your claims that the Catholic Church supports “white supremacists”, “holocaust deniers” and others is disingenuous on its face. Pope Pius XII had to be careful during WW2 not to antagonize either Germany or Italy, both of which were Axis powers and could have wiped out the Vatican in one fell swoop.

    In pre-Vatican II days, the Church realized that jews WERE the “enemy”–not to be abused, but to be recognized as such, and that even then, there was a jewish cabal residing within the Church hierarchy whose aim was to destroy the Church from within.

    The same situation exists with the homosexual problem in the Catholic clergy. The Catholic Church, being a worldwide institution has always had a much greater visible presence. Accordingly, its “problems” are more widely noted. These same “crypto-jews” being priests and bishops had a long time in which to wreak their havoc. In fact, it was these same “crypto-jew” bishops who accepted known homosexuals into the priesthood, as long as the candidates “promised not to act on their homosexual tendencies”–a disaster for the Catholic Church.

    There is a visceral hatred of the Catholic Church that exists widely among jews and protestants. Since the “mainstream media” is almost completely jew-owned, it is a convenient vehicle in which to spew its anti-Catholic hatred.

    Please be aware that homosexual pedophilia is more rampant among protestant and jews, but is never noted as such. The Catholic Church IS attempting to remedy this problem.

    Yes, the Catholic Church has “warts”, just as all earthly institutions do, but to blame the Catholic Church for the world’s ills is clearly due to hatred, not fact.

    Best regards,

    • Replies: @Matt07924
  108. Matt07924 says:

    @getaclue Orthodox Christian Church to me (and possibly The Saker) means return to the original church in the times of the apostles. That was the true church. The church met in homes and was relevant to everyone. There was not an attempt to exalt oneself to have power over others. The reality is the Catholic Church is just a ‘reboot’ of the redundant Jewish priesthood…that all went away when Christ was crucified and rose from the dead. He is now prophet, priest, and king. We are all now part of the priesthood. Yes…that is in the Bible.

    There is ZERO proof that that Catholic Church is the ‘true’ church…and frankly having the Catholic Church tell me that is circular reasoning. Of course they want to be the ‘true’ church…the money can start rolling in!!! Mammon is always on top of the list!!!

    There is no need for a pope and the cardinals. None of that is relevant to the cause of Christianity. It is all about power and control. The Catholic Church as well as many protestant churches are all creatures of this world and Jesus has called us not to be of this world.

    So…sure…think what you want but there are many, many Christians out there that follow the teachings of Christ and are not involved with all the sordid games and power plays.

    Go play ‘church’ however you want but stop with all the BS.

    • Replies: @getaclue
  109. Matt07924 says:

    @anarchyst – Protestants could care less about the Catholic Church. I think you have way over-stated how much we really care. The Catholic Church is a source of befuddlement for many of us…like how could we all have been under that kind of a thing prior to the Reformation?

    The Catholic Church is a worldly institution that is only interested in control, money, and power. They had their run for most of the time up to the Reformation. What did them in was people starting to become educated and seeing the Catholic Church for what they really are.

    Don’t get me wrong…lots of Protestant churches are bad (Joel Osteen’s comes to mind) but I get tired of the “we are the true church” BS.

    If anything Vatican II was a good thing…sealed the fate of a monster that lived off of people’s fear of eternity.

    Maybe if the Vatican ‘sells everything and gives to the poor’…I may rethink my views….

    • Replies: @Lone Wolf
    , @anarchyst
  110. teotoon says:

    “exitus acta probat”


    Exitus acta probat is taken from the George Washington Family Coat of Arms. It is Latin and I’ve come across various ways of interpreting it, all similar but slight variations. The basic translation is: the outcome justifies the deed.

    Modern phrase: The end justifies the means.

    This makes Ol’ George to be immoral scum.

  111. Matt07924 says:


    Are you maybe confusing “hate” with “challenging the false narrative?”

    Most people living inside the empire do not see the lies.

    When brave souls point out the lies, they are labeled as “haters.”

    I absolutely HATE the US government and everything they stand for. The flag means nothing to me. However, I love the American people….not just in the US but everywhere.

    • Replies: @Smith
  112. Lone Wolf says:

    I am sure if the Protestant mega-churches join the Catholic Church in selling their goodies, beginning with the ministers private-jets, we could end poverty on the planet, feed the hungry, give shelter to the homeless, and provide everyone with jobs to uplift them from human misery. Just some food for thought.

    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
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  113. anarchyst says:

    Your statement: “Protestants could care less about the Catholic Church. I think you have way over-stated how much we really care.”

    I must respectfully disagree.

    Protestants, especially Baptists have a “hard on” when it comes to hatred of the Catholic Church. They consider Catholics as an “enemy” and the Catholic Church to be satanic…


    Protestants believe in “sola scriptura” in which the “word” of the Bible is sacrosanct, despite the Bible being written by men, quite often with their own agenda. Even a shyster Schofield got his biblical licks in, elevating the jew and absolving the jews from responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ.

    Protestants also believe that “good works” have no bearing on “salvation” which I have a hard time with).

    In protestant doctrine, one can be a grievous sinner all of his life, hurting and destroying others, and on his deathbed profess a belief in Jesus Christ and will automatically be “saved”.

    Even if “good works” have no bearing on the possibility of “salvation” they can’t hurt…

    Yes, the Catholic Church has problems, and will always have problems, but has still done more for humanity than most.

    The first hospitals, educational institutions, and charity organizations in the middle ages and beyond were founded and run by the Catholic Church.

    Yes, the Catholic Church “went off the rails” by selling “indulgences” (a fast-track to heaven)-a big mistake.

    Even today, the Catholic Church sells “indulgences” of a sort–divorce being possible within the Church, being called “annulment”–which states that “no marriage existed”.

    These “annulments” are granted to Catholics, even after have been married for decades. Once again, “the power of the purse” figures in to the decision by the bishop. The greater the “contribution” the easier it is to get an “annulment”.

    Even abortion was legal within the Catholic Church (before the time of “quickening”) (when the soul is perceived to enter the body)…

    I make no excuses for the behavior of the Catholic Church. Hell, at one time, there were three “popes”…talk about confusion (lol).

    I stand by my statement that the “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” was a power grab by jews and protestants and was detrimental to the Catholic faith.

    Fortunately, there are “old-line” Catholic parishes that still exist, despite efforts by “Novus Ordo)” clergy to stamp them out…

    We can agree to disagree.

    Best regards,

    • Replies: @Matt07924
  114. getaclue says:

    Your comment is laughable. The Bible comes from the Catholic Church — Popes are actually referenced in it. It did not just materialize on its own. You obviously have never studied the lives of the Saints — if you did in good faith you would not have the opinion you do.


    When you do study the Saints the fact as to Our Lord setting up one Universal Church (Catholic MEANS Universal–most don’t even know that) comprised of the Church Militant (here on Earth), the Church Suffering (the Souls in Purgatory who will at some point reach Heaven), and the Church Triumphant (the Church in Heaven that will last forever) is made obvious. Saint Gertrude the Great (and some other Saints) was allowed to actually go to Heaven and reported her observations there including that what is now known as the Traditional Latin Mass of the Catholic Church took place there — (the Masonic Novus Ordo Mass hoaked in by Archbishop Bugnini and other infiltrated Masons in Vatican 2 does not take place there, although it is “valid” it does not have nor present one the possibility of obtaining the amount of grace that is present in the Mass God gave the Saints for us– there is no “Protestant” Mass/”Service” occurring in Heaven or Saint Gertrude would surely have reported it) read her Revelations.

    Read the Revelations of Saint Bridget who was also allowed to see aspects of Heaven, Hell and Purgatory and reported them back– including the Particular Judgment of those headed to each place– Heaven and Hell forever. Like Saint Gertrude she wasn’t making it up or deluded — at that time the investigatory apparatus as to such Saints was extensive and aimed at finding the truth regardless and nothing else–frauds and the deluded were excluded thru this extremely vigorous process.

    All you have to do is actually look and research a bit in good faith and not rely on what liars and the ignorant and misled tell you. The fact that there are “power plays” etc. in the Vatican (even infiltrated in Masons/Communists/Satanists etc. trying to destroy it from inside) or wherever is meaningless– in ALL “Christian” Churches and all human efforts and all works involving fallen man the same appears–as does the efforts of Satan — the Church is no different– men are weak and fallible — as is easy to see in the current state of the Vatican. The attacks inside the Catholic Church now have been long predicted by Mystics/Saints for the End Times we are currently living in.

    The question is who founded the Protestant Church? Martin Luther. Who founded the Catholic Church? Jesus Christ–(it flows directly from Him thru the first Pope St. Peter and the other Apostles on which he laid his hands and made Priests conveying on them certain powers for our benefit including the Consecration of the bread and wine that literally turn into Our Lord as a result). In this Catholic Church, He provided a Sacrament — Holy Communion — that only can occur thru Consecration by a Priest in Apostolic Succession to Him and the original Apostles. That succession was broken long ago in Protestant Churches (still valid even in Orthodox etc. that are not under the Pope etc. which preserved their Sacraments but that is a different topic).

    Our Lord has made it abundantly clear what happens during this Consecration so even the most blind and dense can clue in:

    I could go on and on as to the numerous documented miracles that have occurred thru the Saints in the Catholic Church, the like of which exists in no other “religion” or human endeavor, but I won’t — if you’re in good faith you can easily research same. If you’re not nothing you can be shown or told that will matter in changing your erroneous opinion. Do yourself a favor and do some actual research as to what the Catholic Church actually is from its founding not what someone else told you.

    “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”

    ― Fulton J. Sheen

    This book can be bought for under a \$1.00 used on Amazon and actually explains the Faith– all that you currently are clueless or misinformed about. A small investment if you’re in good faith, to actually know what you’re talking about and make an informed decision based upon the facts/truth not based upon lies and misrepresentations.
    God bless you and all!

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  115. Smith says:

    Dude, the Saker and people like AnonfromTN are “challenging the Empire’s narrative” while living and breathing in the Empire(tm).

    The fact the Empire allows them to just spew their shit is what amaze me, this shit wouldn’t fly in neither Russia or China, if you are a dissident, prepare to be suppressed.

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  116. Lone Wolf says:

    A greater irony is the large cult-like following he has developed, his groupies will fall on you like a pack of wolves if you post a comment at his site that dares to question the sacrosanct word of the Gawker.

    Can’t make that stuff up.

    Lone Wolf

  117. Matt07924 says:

    Peter was married and there is NO evidence that he was ever in Rome. He was an uneducated Jew and was not a Roman citizen.

    I will give it to you that the Catholic Church did preserve the Bible and for that I have to commend the organization for that. But that literally is about all it did that was good.

    Martin Luther did not create a Protestant Church. You obviously have never studied the Reformation — if you did in good faith you would not have the opinion you do. Luther pointed out the corruption in the church and how it was using people for financial gain. If what you are saying it is true then only the Lutheran Church would be around … not the 100+ denominations out there. Really?

    The rest of the stuff is all gibberish. I wish you the best of luck with all the Saints and hoopla. Do yourself a favor and read the New Testament sometime. There is a lot in there that contradicts that multi-million dollar business in Rome.

    • Replies: @getaclue
  118. Matt07924 says:

    Protestants believe in “sola scriptura” in which the “word” of the Bible is sacrosanct, despite the Bible being written by men, quite often with their own agenda. Even a shyster Schofield got his biblical licks in, elevating the jew and absolving the jews from responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. – Schofield was doing interpretation. Anyone reading KJV of the Bible should come away with a better idea of what Christianity is all about. I agree that many Protestants ‘worship’ the Bible more than living out the life of Christ. Point noted.

    Protestants also believe that “good works” have no bearing on “salvation” which I have a hard time with). In protestant doctrine, one can be a grievous sinner all of his life, hurting and destroying others, and on his deathbed profess a belief in Jesus Christ and will automatically be “saved”. Even if “good works” have no bearing on the possibility of “salvation” they can’t hurt…
    — You bring up a good point…that is what we call “Easy Believe-ism” and it is rampant. Luther was worried that the Protestant church would devolve into this and he is right. The SCARIEST verses in the Bible are right here…Matthew 25:31-46. Jesus is speaking to the disciples here…he is not speaking to Muslims and atheists. Christians will be judged on how they live their life on Earth. No one wants to talk about this one….especially Protestants. It truly is shameful and churches like Joel Osteen’s temple of mammon lead people down this dangerous path thinking they are saved.

    You are right…the Catholic Church has done a lot of good…including saving copies of the Bible during the early days of the church.

    I guess you are right we have to agree to disagree. I fundamentally have a problem with the Catholic Church re-instituting the priesthood system (from the Jews) after Jesus ended the priesthood. We are all priests…and all of us have access to Jesus.

    • Replies: @A123
  119. Matt07924 says:
    @Lone Wolf

    Amen! You are absolutely correct. Could not agree with you more.

    I like to tell people that the Apostle Paul worked to pay for his living expenses. He was a tent maker. He did not expect others to give up what little money they had to support him. I doubt Joel Osteen gets around this this Bible verse….2 THESSALONIANS 3:7-10

  120. getaclue says:

    Here’s some “New Testament” for you — some that you choose to ignore just like those mentioned in it did to their Eternal loss. Amazing how the plain stated words are just interpreted away by those who think the Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ is just a “muli-million dollar business in Rome”:


    “[51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven. [52] If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world. [53] The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? [54] Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. [55] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

    [54] “Eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood”: To receive the body and blood of Christ, is a divine precept, insinuated in this text; which the faithful fulfil, though they receive but in one kind; because in one kind they receive both body and blood, which cannot be separated from each other. Hence, life eternal is here promised to the worthy receiving, though but in one kind. Ver. 52. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh for the life of the world. Ver. 58. He that eateth me, the same also shall live by me. Ver. 59. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.

    [56] For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. [57] He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. [58] As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me. [59] This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever. [60] These things he said, teaching in the synagogue, in Capharnaum.

    [61] Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it? [62] But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you? [63] If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? [64] It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life. [65] But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him.” — Only place this is happening today?– where the Consecration has been done by Priests in Apostolic Succession to Jesus Christ. It is not happening in any Church in “Succession” to Martin Luther these days–zero.

    As to St. Peter you are equally clueless: “It is traditionally believed that he was crucified in Rome and buried where the Basilica of St Peter was later built, beneath the high altar. In 1939, the Vatican announced that the bones of Peter had been found in Rome during an archaeological dig.” Spend a dollar and read the book in good faith–you might actually understand you have no understanding as to something you think you do — based upon misrepresentations and lies you have been told. Certainly couldn’t hurt you. Prayers! Good bye.

  121. @The Scalpel

    Concussion is as you described. Now, please describe, for us dummies here,: Traumatic Brain Injury.

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  122. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @the grand wazoo

    Traumatic Brain Injury is a catch-all phrase indicating any trauma induced injury to the brain from concussion (and less) to getting shot in the head (and worse if that is possible). It is a category, not a specific diagnosis.

  123. Meena says:


    Pure drivel .

    Don’t lie but get some education . 800 yrs of holocaust against Hindus and Sikh bad Jain !!

    How the F * did yuh guys manage to keep your F * religion culture language shrines customs and kingdoms ? How the F * did you guys manage to become the chief in army and minister in the cabinet of Delhi Kings and of surrounding provinces !

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  124. A123 says:

    Protestants believe in “sola scriptura” in which the “word” of the Bible is sacrosanct,

    Incorrect. Sola scriptura is the belief that a church intermediary is not required. (1)

    The Latin “Sola Scriptura” means “Scripture Only,” or “Scripture alone.” This was one of the distinctive features of the Protestant Reformation and signaled the Reformed departure from alleged Papal infallibility and the authority of Romish tradition. The Reformers claimed the principle of Sola Scriptura or the all-sufficiency of Scripture was the only rule of both faith and practice.

    Sola Scriptura

    We reaffirm the inerrant Scripture to be the sole source of written divine revelation, which alone can bind the conscience. The Bible alone teaches all that is necessary for our salvation from sin and is the standard by which all Christian behavior must be measured. …

    We deny that any creed, council or individual may bind a Christian’s conscience, that the Holy Spirit speaks independently of or contrary to what is set forth in the Bible, or that personal spiritual experience can ever be a vehicle of revelation. – Cambridge Declaration

    Every Christian knows that there are multiple Bibles. The King James is most common English-language version but it is not exclusionary. No current, major Protestant sect holds to a single absolute printing. Though you probably could find a fringe group if you dug hard enough.

    The purpose and meaning of “Sola Scriptura” is to eliminate church hierarchies and dogmas.

    Think of it as de-Pope-ification if you insist on a modern term.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Meena
    , @Anon
  125. There is a perfectly logical basis on which every religion can be equally true. That basis is if they’re all totally false and there is no “god” of any nature at all. Half this article rewards like a No True Scotsman argument on behalf of the Catholic Church, as though the early Catholic Church was any less anti knowledge, any less corrupt, or any better at actually taking care of anyone’s needs than its current form. Of course it wasn’t. All religions, without exception, go through the same evolutionary pressures as any organism. Those that are able to impose control of societies survive. Those that can’t, disappear. In order to impose control religions must act like politicians, lie, cheat, steal, and destroy dissent. And, no, atheists do have a concept of good and bad; we just aren’t compelled to behave at the threat of a fictional hell or equivalent thereof.

  126. @Meena

    At least the subcontinentals have a simple solution available to them: Muslims to Pakistan and Bangladesh, Hindus to India. In America they crowd everyone together.

  127. Meena says:

    “de-Pope-ification i”. was a laudable endeavor but it resulted in judaification of bible, message and practice .
    Catholic claims of the sanctity and relevance of the church ‘s role in the essence of the Christianity is valid .
    Jesus did not create a church with customs and practices . He did not tell anybody to write down his daily sermon or teachings or the relative merits of his own habit, attiudes, daily life styles or method of worship. He did not clearly explain his own role , advice , fears , injunctions, concerns and did not leave any formula by which to live .
    His disciples expanded . This expansion led to many different versions further down the lines with each new generation of early Christian .
    Slow and eventual separation from Judaism took a while . Ideas were created and inserted into newer bibles ( John Luke Mathew , letters , epistles )
    These bibles got more additions and deletions , mostly inadvertently from copying .
    Councils of Nicea and other councils tried to accommodate and adjust and purge .
    Chiridtisnity the Protestants talk about and the Bible they refer to – were already ‘ changed Bible’
    Changed by Church and by other factors .

  128. Anon[323] • Disclaimer says:

    Every Christian knows that there are multiple Bibles.

    There’s nothing like being lectured on Christianity, with the employment of Jewish style lies by omission, by one of those the Christ called the Children of the Devill who is the Father of Lies.

    Stick to your domains kike. You’ll be less embarrassed in any conversation in those places.

    You can write something and call it a Bible but that doesn’t mean that it is something that “every Christian” recognizes as such. You stupid fucking animal.

  129. anarchyst says:

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.


    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.

    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.

    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments, nothing more.

    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.

    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.

    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.

    In fact, slavery (of goyim) is still condoned and encouraged in the jewish Talmud.

    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way)?

    It makes absolutely no sense at all.

    Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.

    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

  130. Advice says:

    US is masonic. Masons lie as an “intelligence test” (because it’s not OPSEC).


  131. Advice says:

    The UN is just a French municipality.

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