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The blowback has begun

First, let’s begin by a quick summary of what has taken place (note: this info is still coming in, so there might be corrections once the official sources make their official statements).

  1. Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdl Mahdi has now officially revealed that the US had asked him to mediate between the US and Iran and that General Qassem Soleimani to come and talk to him and give him the answer to his mediation efforts. Thus, Soleimani was on an OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC MISSION as part of a diplomatic initiative INITIATED BY THE US.
  2. The Iraqi Parliament has now voted on a resolution requiring the government to press Washington and its allies to withdraw their troops from Iraq.
  3. Iraq’s caretaker PM Adil Abdul Mahdi said the American side notified the Iraqi military about the planned airstrike minutes before it was carried out. He stressed that his government denied Washington permission to continue with the operation.
  4. The Iraqi Parliament has also demanded that the Iraqi government must “work to end the presence of any foreign troops on Iraqi soil and prohibit them from using its land, airspace or water for any reason
  5. The Iraqi Foreign Ministry said that Baghdad had turned to the UN Security Council with complaints about US violations of its sovereignty.
  6. Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr said the parliamentary resolution to end foreign troop presence in the country did not go far enough, calling on local and foreign militia groups to unite. I also have confirmation that the Mehdi Army is being re-mobilized.
  7. The Pentagon brass is now laying the responsibility for this monumental disaster on Trump (see here). The are now slowly waking up to this immense clusterbleep and don’t want to be held responsible for what is coming next.
  8. For the first time in the history of Iran, a Red Flag was hoisted over the Holy Dome Of Jamkaran Mosque, Iran. This indicates that the blood of martyrs has been spilled and that a major battle will now happen. The text in the flag says “Oh Hussein we ask for your help” (unofficial translation 1) or “Rise up and avenge al-Husayn” (unofficial translation 2)
  9. The US has announced the deployment of 3’000 soldiers from the 82nd Airborne to Kuwait.
  10. Finally, the Idiot-in-Chief tweeted the following message, probably to try to reassure his freaked out supporters: “The United States just spent Two Trillion Dollars on Military Equipment. We are the biggest and by far the BEST in the World! If Iran attacks an American Base, or any American, we will be sending some of that brand new beautiful equipment their way…and without hesitation!“. Apparently, he still thinks that criminally overspending for 2nd rate military hardware is going to yield victory…

Analysis

Well, my first though when reading these bullet points is that General Qasem Soleimani has already struck out at Uncle Shmuel from beyond his grave. What we see here is an immense political disaster unfolding like a slow motion train wreck. Make no mistake, this is not just a tactical “oopsie”, but a major STRATEGIC disaster. Why?

For one thing, the US will now become an official and totally illegal military presence in Iraq. This means that whatever SOFA (Status Of Forces Agreement) the US and Iraq had until now is void.

Second, the US now has two options:

  1. Fight and sink deep into a catastrophic quagmire or
  2. Withdraw from Iraq and lose any possibility to keep forces in Syria

Both of these are very bad because whatever option Uncle Shmuel chooses, he will lost whatever tiny level of credibility he has left, even amongst his putative “allies” (like the KSA which will now be left nose to nose with a much more powerful Iran than ever before).

The main problem with the current (and very provisional) outcome is that both the Israel Lobby and the Oil Lobby will now be absolutely outraged and will demand that the US try to use military power to regime change both Iraq and Iran.

Needless to say, that ain’t happening (only ignorant and incurable flag-wavers believe the silly claptrap about the US armed forces being “THE BEST”).

Furthermore, it is clear that by it’s latest terrorist action the US has now declared war on BOTH Iraq and Iran.

This is so important that I need to repeat it again:

The US is now at war, de-facto and de-jure, with BOTH Iraq and Iran.

I hasten to add that the US is also at war with most of the Muslim world (and most definitely all Shias, including Hezbollah and the Yemeni Houthis).

Next, I want to mention the increase in US troop numbers in the Middle-East. An additional 3’000 soldiers from the 82nd AB is what would be needed to support evacuations and to provide a reserve force for the Marines already sent in. This is NOWHERE NEAR the kind of troop numbers the US would need to fight a war with either Iraq or Iran.

Finally, there are some who think that the US will try to invade Iran. Well, with a commander in chief as narcissistically delusional as Trump, I would never say “never” but, frankly, I don’t think that anybody at the Pentagon would be willing to obey such an order. So no, a ground invasion is not in the cards and, if it ever becomes an realistic option we would first see a massive increase in the US troop levels, we are talking several tens of thousands, if not more (depending on the actual plan).

No, what the US will do if/when they attack Iran is what Israel did to Lebanon in 2006, but at a much larger scale. They will begin by a huge number of airstrikes (missiles and aircraft) to hit:

  1. Iranian air defenses
  2. Iranian command posts and Iranian civilian and military leaders
  3. Symbolic targets (like nuclear installations and high visibility units like the IRGC)
  4. Iranian navy and coastal defenses
  5. Crucial civilian infrastructure (power plants, bridges, hospitals, radio/TV stations, food storage, pharmaceutical installations, schools, historical monuments and, let’s not forget that one, foreign embassies of countries who support Iran). The way this will be justified will be the same as what was done to Serbia: a “destruction of critical regime infrastructure” (what else is new?!)

Then, within about 24-48 hours the US President will go on air an announce to the world that it is “mission accomplished” and that “THE BEST” military forces in the galaxy have taught a lesson to the “Mollahs”. There will be dances in the streets of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem (right until the moment the Iranian missiles will start dropping from the sky. At which point the dances will be replaced by screams about a “2nd Hitler” and the “Holocaust”).

Then all hell will break loose (I have discussed that so often in the past that I won’t go into details here).

In conclusion, I want to mention something more personal about the people of the US.

Roughly speaking, there are two main groups which I observed during my many years of life in the US.

Group one: is the TV-watching imbeciles who think that the talking heads on the idiot box actually share real knowledge and expertise. As a result, their thinking goes along the following lines: “yeah, yeah, say what you want, but if the mollahs make a wrong move, we will simply nuke them; a few neutron bombs will take care of these sand niggers“. And if asked about the ethics of this stance, the usual answer is a “f**k them! they messed with the wrong guys, now they will get their asses kicked“.

Group two: is a much quieter group. It includes both people who see themselves as liberals and conservatives. They are totally horrified and they feel a silent rage against the US political elites. Friends, there are A LOT of US Americans out there who are truly horrified by what is done in their name and who feel absolutely powerless to do anything about it. I don’t know about the young soldiers who are now being sent to the Middle-East, but I know a lot of former servicemen who know the truth about war and about THE BEST military in the history of the galaxy and they are also absolutely horrified.

I can’t say which group is bigger, but my gut feeling is that Group Two is much bigger than Group One. I might be wrong.

I am now signing off but I will try to update you here as soon as any important info comes in.

UPDATE 1: according to the Russian website Colonel Cassad, Moqtada al-Sadr has officially made the following demands to the Iraqi government:

  1. Immediately break the cooperation agreement with the United States.
  2. Close the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.
  3. Close all U.S. military bases in Iraq.
  4. Criminalize any cooperation with the United States.
  5. To ensure the protection of Iraqi embassies.
  6. Officially boycott American products.

Cassad (aka Boris Rozhin) also posted this excellent caricature:

UPDATE 2: RT is reporting that “One US service member, two contractors killed in Al-Shabaab attack in Kenya, two DoD personnel injured“. Which just goes to prove my point that spontaneous attacks are what we will be seeing first and that the retaliation promised by Iran will only come later.

UPDATE 3: al-Manar reports that two rockets have landed near the US embassy in Baghdad.

ORDER IT NOW

UPDATE 4: Zerohedge is reporting that Iranian state TV broadcasted an appeal made during the funeral procession in which a speaker said that each Iranian ought to send one dollar per person (total 80’000’000 dollars) as a bounty for the killing of Donald Trump. I am trying to get a confirmation from Iran about this.

UPDATE 5: Russian sources claim that all Iranian rocket forces have been put on combat alert.

UPDATE 6: the Russian heavy rocket cruiser “Marshal Ustinov” has cross the Bosphorus and has entered the Mediterranean.

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  1. “both the Israel Lobby and the Oil Lobby will now be absolutely outraged and will demand that the US try to use military power to regime change both Iraq and Iran.”

    John Mearsheimer , in 2007 approx, said on CSPAN at the bookstore Politics/Prose that oil companies dont lobby re foreign policy. Talk at PP was part of his book tour for his book on a specific ethnic lobby that he had thought skewed US foreign policy against our interests

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Hibernian
  2. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:

    This bounty news is not good. Iran can’t get to him, but the US neocon deep state (that’s been working so hard to get rid of Trump through impeachment) probably has the means. Having succeeded in getting him to commit this fatal mistake, the neocons may now be tempted to go for two birds: carry out the false flag that they can easily pin onto Iran thanks to this bounty, get their man Pence into power, and finally get the US war on Iran they’ve long been gunning for (at the expense of US lives and US taxpayer dollars), with their media fanning outraged US public support (group one.)

    Really hope nothing like that happens. Trump and the American people need to free themselves of the neocons in a hurry.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  3. anon[288] • Disclaimer says:

    “both the Israel Lobby and the Oil Lobby”

    The United States is now a net oil exporter, but oil — nevertheless — may be playing a key role here, along with the obvious influence of the pernicious Israel Lobby. My theory: the United States is afraid it will be displaced by China in the near future, so they are busily trying to secure all the world’s fossil fuel resources (even mineral elements) so they can cut China’s economic throat if the need arises. Consider the following:

    1) The US has recently tried conquering several countries with vast oil resources, namely Venezuela … and they are desperate to start a war with oil-rich Iran.

    2) The US has tried overthrowing Syria‘s government. Although relatively oil poor, this country is a prime location for fossil fuel pipelines.

    3) The US has threatened Europe over Nordstream 2. The objective seems to be to keep Europe dependent on American fossil fuel imports, even though they are far more expensive than the Russian equivalent.

    4) The shortsighted US, greedy and corrupted by run away market-capitalism, closed down its rare earth element mines, leaving their tech industry totally dependent on the Chinese supply of rare earth; China now accounts of over 90% the global supply of rare earth elements. Thus, the US has stayed in Afghanistan, a country with potentially large reserves of rare earth, far beyond what is necessary … and even after they knew victory wasn’t possible, as the Afghanistan Papers (totally ignored by the media) revealed. Afghanistan is also strategically position for the Americans to disrupt China’s Silk Road in the advent of a future Sino-American war.

    5) The US just overthrew Bolivia‘s government. Natural gas is one of the country’s main exports.

    6) They’ve repeatedly antagonized Russia, a country with deep fossil fuel resources, even though the situation is bizarre because, as Pat Buchanan has pointed out, the United States and Russia should be natural allies. Well, the US and Russia would be natural allies if America’s demographics were the same as Reagan’s in 1980 (~80% European). America is no longer the same country it once was due to mass immigration, so it’s now comfortable seeing Europeans as ethnic enemies when previously conflicts with Europe were solely ideological. That partly explains the democratic party’s relentless and paranoid attacks on Russia; it’s a country dominated by moderate white Europeans just like Trump’s demographic base, so they hate them. “Russia” is code for “European white”.

    In the future, the US won’t be able to compete in crucial emerging fields with China for various reasons*, so they are using their military to cut off Chinese supply lines. At least, that’s my read of the situation.

    *The impending retirement of the Baby Boomer generation (the nation’s prime economic resource), future diversity requirements will hurt corporate competitiveness, government corruption, corporate corruption, feminism and other toxic ideologies will hurt competitiveness, emerging technologies will antiquate several American industries (Hollywood), huge incoming unfunded entitlement liabilities which can’t be paid for will cripple R&D spending, government incompetence on all levels will worsen as the two-party system breaks down, the influence of toxic ethnic lobbies will prevent reform, and rising living standards will draw off high-quality immigrants, … and it’s not inconceivable that white Americans won’t start emigrating to Japan once that country’s population starts falling off at a dramatic clip (see the case of scientist Tim Hunt, purged for wrong think, who fled to Japan), etc.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  4. no, Saker, when/if Zion-ruled ‘Murka and Iran et al. go to war,

    it will be bloody obvious. And so far, this isn’t it. At least for awhile,

    and here’s the reason: current location of US Carrier Battle Groups….

    USS Lincoln – Arabian Sea (on battle station)
    USS Reagan – Sea of Japan
    USS Eisenhower – US east coast
    USS Stennis – US east coast
    USS Roosevelt – US west coast
    USS Truman – US east coast
    USS Nimitz – US west coast
    USS Vinson – US west coast (drydock?)
    USS Bush – ditto, under repair
    USS Washington – ditto, under repair
    USS Ford – west coast, glitched, but may be actively available

    unless ZOG-stooge Drumpf is even more impulsive/crazy than he appears, he and the Pentagram won’t mount any substantial attack on Iran until c. 3-4 CBG’s are on station….which’ll be in 2-3 weeks at the soonest. Since I live in a US west coast town about 70 miles north of the Pt. Mugu NAS, I watch the high altitude contrails of Navy fighter-bomber pilots on their daily training flights up the coast and over the mountain toward Bakersfield then back again…normally I see a couple, some days none. Today, Sunday, I saw about a dozen over a 2-hour span. So maybe something large is in the works.

    as to Iran’s so far negligible response to the Zionist state terrorist murder of its military leaders, I doubt anything dramatic will occur for awhile: Iran, unlike Syria, cannot at the moment rely on Russian help. Most likely reaction: just steadily ratcheting up Shi’ia militia attacks on the Isramerican military bases scattered throughout Iraq….esp. now that the Iraqi Parliament (boycotted, of course, by the Sunni and Kurd deputies) has told the ‘Murkan stormtroopers to go away.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Bill H
  5. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:
    @houston 1992

    Speakee de Ing?

  6. TG says:

    Oh what to say… it feels like the end times.

    The nerve of Donald Trump, he’s acting like a liberal Democrat!

    As stupid as this all goes, don’t forget that both Iraq and Iran are in very weak positions. Sure, America does’t have the manpower or fortitude to actually invade Iran, but it doesn’t have to. It can do to Iran what it did to Serbia: systematically destroy the electrical generating systems, irrigation systems, bridges, railways, etc.etc. and their society will collapse. And the Iranians are not stupid and know this. Whatever damage the Iranians manage to do to the United States, the United States can do to Iran 10 times over. But if the Iranians do nothing, they will look weak and also be attacked by the United States. IMHO the Iranians really don’t have very good options here. “Mad Dog Diplomacy” does have its upside.

    • Replies: @lauris71
    , @KA
  7. El Dato says:

    Actually ashamed of having believed in Trump. In a sane world, arguments for immediate removal from office for reasons of insanity and law-breaking. In a non Führer-based society, you can’t just attack some country at will and in this case a lot of people in the Unintelligence Community who are responsible for this hit need to be shown the door. No need to construct a ridiculous case about phone calls with Ukraine to keep Biden in the running. Of course, something happens only if if can be set up like a theatre piece, not if there is an actual decision to be made.

    DUMBFUCKERY:

    Trump threatens Iraq with ‘very big sanctions’ unless it pays back BILLIONS for an airbase if US troops are forced to withdraw

    Trump Threatens Iraq Sanctions ‘Like They’ve Never Seen Before’

    Trump says his tweets are ‘notification’ to Congress, pledges ‘disproportionate’ response to Iran in case of attack

    ‘We are not allowed to touch Iran’s cultural sites? It doesn’t work that way’

    Trump also doubled down on his threat to wipe out Iranian cultural sites in retaliation for potential future attacks from Tehran, which has vowed to avenge the assassination of its top general, Qassem Soleimani, by the US.

    Accusing Iran of “torturing” and “maiming” American soldiers in suicide attacks and by planting roadside bombs, Trump hinted that attacks on US troops justify potential war crimes – the destruction of a nation’s cultural heritage.

    “They’re allowed to kill our people. They’re allowed to torture and maim our people. They’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people. And we’re not allowed to touch their cultural sites? It doesn’t work that way.”

    When you are acting based on a reality bubble you constructed around yourself and arrogate to yourself the right to go full barbarian, it’s very much over.

    The MAFIA MANATEE OF DEATH AND DUMB emerges:

    Pompeo: US May Attack More Iranian Leaders: Blames mounting Iran tension on Obama

    US to hit ‘actual decision makers’ behind attacks on American targets with ‘lawful strikes’ – Pompeo

    • Agree: Jim Christian
  8. Rahan says:

    1) Get Iraq to vote to kick US troops out–election promise kept in spite of Jewish pressure at home
    2) Get Iran to go nuclear–Israel gets cut down to size
    3) Declare US Jews a separate nationality “to fight antisemitism”
    4) Enforce new law on refugees–counties get to vote on resettling
    5) Force US Jews to constantly visibly attack the white goy deplorables and their champ
    6) Force China to buy a guaranteed amount of US goods
    7) Incorporate England into US economy
    8) Force EU to buy a guaranteed amount of English and US goods
    9) Appoint conservative judges
    10) Enforce free speech on campuses
    11) Enforce ID checks for voting
    12) Either deport illegals, or make them stay in liberast cities and not stray outside
    13) Get trannies out of the army
    14) Investigate FBI, CIA, and the Epstein people

    …Thus far I see no problem in this whole program. By 2024 the God Emperor should have set into motion almost enough stuff to halt and start undoing the subversion of the chosen ones as described here: http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Immigration.pdf

    The whole point of creating Israel was for them to have a country where they can feel safe and not have to instead subvert other people’s countries in order to satisfy their paranoia.
    But no. They wanted to both have Israel AND subvert the West in order to make sure no “new Aryan Reich ever arises”.
    They just HAD to try and destroy a whole civilization just in order to “feel secure”.
    It’s time they are declared a separate nation all across the West, and also time ALL their neighbors in the Middle East acquire nukes.

    It may not be a “Jewish cabal”, but it certainly is a specific “class behavior”–just like other classes and groups intuitively behave in manners which benefit them. But in this case “benefit” tends to mean “subvert and destroy”. There’s always a few who rise above their group and become decent human beings, but the rest…

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  9. anonymous[145] • Disclaimer says:

    As the facts come out I have to wonder if the requested peace meeting wasn’t intended as a setup for the assassination. It’s a treacherous act and the embassy riot explanation is probably a lie like everything else seems to be. This appears to be so counter-productive I have to wonder what the thinking was that went into it. The US can bomb away and cause a huge amount of damage but it’ll all get rebuilt. What’s the US game plan here? Is there one or is it just one move at a time then wait to see what happens next?

  10. Then all hell will break loose (I have discussed that so often in the past that I won’t go into details here).

    Saker, got any links on those? You do so much stuff, what are you, billions of words? Love to find those, the All Hell Breaks Loose articles, not that it hurts anyone to go back a year and read lots of folks who knew this was coming, down to the detail. You and Paul Craig Roberts, Andrei Martyanov are all to be applauded in that not one of your former assumptions have been upended, except PCR often laments, as I believe you and Andrei have, the destruction and decline and fall into catastrophe has come faster than any of you thought. It’s suddenly here, in our faces. As a mainstream Group2 Member, I have the full-fledged horror thing going.

    Ya know, a major part of Trump’s platform was ending the stupidity in military action. And killing this guy wasn’t even military, it was spook. But also, the U.S. sanctioning of everyone on the planet on Trump’s whim has gotten to the point they’re all doing bizz without dollars and the usual international exchange mechanisms. That’s a horror. Killing Iran’s guy was a horror. Iraq on the whole is a horror. The cheerleading is a horror. Syria, Libya, Europe’s Rape-U-Gee is a horror. The gongs and war drums on the news that always precedes this shit is a horror. Send aircraft carriers? Really! I served on those things, there’s no use sending those except as a tripwire.

    But ya know what’s really gotten me to despising Trump? His incessant, idiotic pronouncements, his empty-ass threats (So Group 2 prays) and the hysterical, outrageous, endless Carnival Barking. I cannot listen to the guy anymore. He won’t shut the fuck UP. And that Pompeo, is there any good in that man? Or does he just sit, wait for the military and CIA to really get this good and screwed up before he says, “Hey, it wasn’t MY advice”? With Trump, there’s nothing measured, there’s none of the decorum formerly accorded serious diplomatic and military affairs. It’s off the rails-insane. He’s become a berserker. For whom is he acting, or is he independently giving full head to his Inner BlowHard? Christ!

    I know, I know, no profanity, but I cannot write in Greek, a language so satisfying for expressing rage, and so I will answer Trump’s profanities with a profanity of my own, sage advice, this: Donald, would you please Shut The Fuck Up?

    Saker, you gonna generate new articles or continue amending this one? You are being followed on this one. How’s it feel to be in The Bigs? Also, I’m anxiously awaiting A. Martyanov’s take.

    • Agree: The Scalpel
  11. @Haxo Angmark

    Yeah, Haxo, that’s a pretty accurate rundown on carriers, like you said, for now. I was seeing that in a Navy Times magazine piece they run called Where are the Carriers, followed by a map. They’re in Norfolk, New Port News drydocks, Bremerton, in various dry docks West Coast, too of course and then there’s Ford Class, Not Mission Capable. As for escorts, who knows if they’re ready?

    But it’s worse. Personnel. Having carriers without squadrons and sufficient personnel to man and operate it all means we don’t have carriers. We’re about to see on the one hand, the equipment they buy is worthless, the F-35 and the rest, but the platform itself is useless. At the cost of closing the Gulf and a lot of lost aircraft and people, you can attack the coast of Iran with planes from carriers, but they have to lay off a long way.

    We’re about to see the results of the social program of inserting the ladies of the Navy into the operational scheme of Naval Air. I believe we can get at the MOST, two carriers with their full complement of squadrons and stores to sea only IF we cannibalize folks from other squadrons who are willing to go out to sea, having just gotten back. We’re flat out of recruits and the lady-placeholders refuse to deploy. In any case, as regards carriers, the rest are Not Mission Capable for personnel. They’ve been using carriers for pier side office buildings to give chicks jobs ashore, but all along, everyone knew if they had to go to sea, their issue is, what about their children? Rule is, when the single mothers get jobs on ships and squadrons, they’re supposed to have a deployment plan for their children. But all that’s by the wayside, the girls miss movement of the ship all the time because they can’t leave their children. Missing Movement of your ship used to be damned near a court martial offense. Not anymore. And when 15% of your squadron manning is women who missed movement of the ship, you go out that much weaker.

    Carriers have fundamental problems, missiles, submarines and the rest, but they cannot operate without full complements as regards people to run things. It’s going to be delicious to see them cover over this failure and the why. We keep a dozen carriers so we can field two. Hax, I ask ya, isn’t that PRECIOUS? Good take..

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  12. Kiza says:

    Ohhhh, Soleimani the Iranian angel who has been knocked off by a Jewish Bronx mafiosi, Cretin-in-Chief, Donald Trump. Even Saker misses to check Soleimani’s past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force#cite_note-24.

    As leader of Quds, Iranian external military intervention and intelligence wing, Soleimani closely cooperated with CIA during the Muslim+West war on Orthodox Christian Bosnian Serbs, starting from 1992. There is no record of Soleimani himself travelling to Bosnia, unlike Bin Laden, but he organised many hundreds of armed Iranian Mujahideen to land onto Sarajevo airport inside heavy US transport planes with UN markings on them, plus he sent many a load of weapons and supplies to the Bosnian Muslim Army. Therefore, in this respect, Soleimani’s fate is rather similar to that of Bin Laden.

    It is mind boggling that the Iranian military and Shiite proselytizing ambitions stretched all the way to South Eastern Europe, where they competed directly against the same practices and ambitions of the Sunni Saudi Wahhabists. The Saudis were sending their usual mercenaries to Bosnia in the exactly same way – on US transport planes.

    Of course, the US helped them both to participate in Balkan wars, just as against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. But once an asset is past its use-by-date, the US Deep State just disposes of it.

    Whilst the secular Libya, Syria and Iraq were opposed to the Western military intervention in the Balkans, the Iranians and the Saudis saw the war as an opportunity. The final irony is that Sunni Turkey, which created those Bosnian Muslims from the local Slavs through beneficial tax rates during its five century occupation, provided only political support to the expansionism of the Bosnian Muslim leadership, neither military support nor preachers. Ultimately, due to much deeper Wahhabi pockets, most of the mosques in Bosnia have been built by the Iranian enemies – the Saudis.

    At that time, Israeli PM was Yitzhak Rabin. The Israeli state, the US Jews and the Deep State they control (the alphabet soup) supported the Bosnian Muslims. But the Israeli Likudniks provided info and sold weapons to Bosnian Serbs (all of the above contrary to the UN resolutions).

    The US never pays for the terrorists on the ground, almost always they provide logistics and the Saudis pay. Most of terrorism in the World would disappear if US-Saudi arrangement would be broken, but this is impossible, of course, as long as Saudi “royals” exist.

    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
  13. der einzige says: • Website

    Stop publishing this censor Saker. This clown chose Trump as the man of the year a few days ago. And when is reminded of it, he censors entries on his site. Supports Zionist puppets like Tulsi “Champion of Freedom” Gabbard and Donald “Israel First” Trump. Enough of this.

    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
  14. Passer by says:

    US Embassy Iraq Live

  15. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:

    Whatever damage the Iranians manage to do to the United States, the United States can do to Iran 10 times over

    I wouldn’t be so sure of that. If I were the Iranians, I’d destroy those Saudi oil fields and crash the US economy. Multicultural American society might be the one that collapses.

  16. VICB3 says:

    This feels just like the beginning of World War I, with Soleimani being the cause célèbre instead of a Franz Ferdinand. Israel = Serbia. The United States = well, somebody, but Serbia was a client state of Russia, and Israel is a client state of the U.S. (or maybe the other way around).

    At any rate, all the actors now are maneuvering around, thinking that they know what they’re doing, that they’re in charge, and at any rate they won’t get hurt, not even if things get out of hand. In other words, they’re acting just like everybody then 106 years ago, every government, that got itself mixed up in World War I.

    In that war, four years later they found out differently. All the players got bit hard, paying the price both politically and economically, and their descendants – you, me, anybody reading this – are still paying the price to this day.

    It’s been 80 years or so since the start of World War II. My mom, who lived through it all, will tell you that it feels to her the same way now.

    As for myself, I’m fond of the notion that history runs in predictable cycles. Using the Strauss-Howe 80 year cycle metric, that means that we’re into the Chaos of the Forth Turning. What’s happening now is part of that.

    And that’s the part of the cycle you can keep. Like most people I hate chaos and like order and stability. And I look around and see things just getting crazier and more out of hand all the time.

    And as I’ll tell anybody, I like to read history, but I don’t want to live it. And I’m very much afraid that’s what’s happening, about to happen, whether we like it or not

    Just a thought.

    VicB

  17. Empires can “sink deep into a catastrophic quagmire”, often because they have nowhere else to step. There is an even bigger conflagration developing.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  18. The Scalpel says: • Website

    We will soon see the “distributed network” equivalent applied to warfare – “distributed warfare” This will consist of simultaneous attacks on the many US outposts and installations distributed around the world. These will tax even the US’s ability to adequately defend them all. Interesting times ahead.

  19. @Rahan

    There’s always a few who rise above their group and become decent human beings, but the rest…

  20. lauris71 says:
    @TG

    Such campaigns need time – Serbia was bombed for more than a month with very little damage to its military. And Serbia was surrounded by NATO countries militarily stronger than her that were used as safe logistic bases. No such safe country exist in ME aside Pakistan and Turkey and both probably do not allow their territory to be used against Iran.
    This leaves only bases in Gulf countries, Jordan, Israel and carrier groups in Indian ocean to support the campaign. The former will be devastated by Iranian missile strikes and probably cease to be of much use. Also both Bahrain and SA are ripe for civil war.
    So the bombing has to be carried out from carriers and airbases far away which severely limits its effectiveness and allows Iran meanwhile to destroy most infrastructure in Arab peninsula. Conquering any part of Iranian territory to effectively suppress Iranian strikes is pretty much impossible without D-day scale assault because there are no safe harbors and airfields where to land sufficient number of armored troops.
    Of course eventually US can destroy large part of Iranian infrastructure but it takes many moths – possibly over a year – and during that time the world has to function without any Saudi, UAE, Kuwait and Iraq oil.
    Then there are, of course, Shia militias in Iraq. They are quite capable of attacking Kuwait and probably conquering it if needed. While formerly they would maybe kept some distance it is not the case at moment.
    There is a reason why there have not been US punitive strikes inside Iran and it is not US benevolence.

  21. KA says:
    @TG

    US to hit ‘actual decision makers’ behind attacks on American targets with ‘lawful strikes’ – Pompeo

    Iran might decide exact same course of action. It can target the tribe that decides US’ decisions .
    One less member of the tribe translates into one million goym. Don’t you know that ?
    One less Toyota in Israel translates into few more millions in obligatory homage to Israel.

    One siren induced cry of a toddler in Haifa translate into shaking of billions of shekel out of the pockets of Trump making Trump consider cursing his donors and the toddlers . That toddler can hurt America more than Iran’s forces —- a peculiar reality .

    Right now Trump is very angry at the media for showing him the embassy picture and lose ore of his balance He solved the problem he thought he would face – 1980 problem . But his problem is 2020 ‘s problem and he has no answer .
    2019 January NK
    2002 it’s the entire world .0

  22. @anon

    Fairly accurate, except that oil isn’t fossil fuel. it is abiotic. Stalin’s gang figured that out in the 1930s. “Fossil fuel” leads to “peak oil” and stated “shortages”. Naturally occurring from the earth’s core leads to Russia drilling where they shouldn’t be, but finding oil deeper down.

    As for competing with China for various reasons, the boomer retirement is not really one of them. Unlike North America, where everything is a commodity, including education, China educates only the best and brightest, and with a population over a billion, it’s going to be a lot more than what North America can produce. I’ve spoken to Chinese students here, and they think that university courses here are a cakewalk. Most of them are here, because they aren’t “smart” enough to get into universities in China. It is the best and brightest in the hard sciences who are driving Chinese industrialization. China has adopted the Henry Ford model and is thriving.
    (((Western liberal democracies))) have abandoned Henry Ford’s pay them enough to so they can buy what I’m selling, model, for pay them as little as possible and import everything from low wage countries, model. The masses of accountants and lawyers graduating to help the wealthy avoid paying taxes add nothing to the economy.
    Before people go into the “stolen technology” mode, I grant that there is some of that, but not on the scale of the US stealing the contents of the German Patent Office at the end of WWII.

  23. @Kiza

    Not only that, there are crypto-Saudis in every position of importance in the US government.

  24. @der einzige

    That was then. This is now. And besides, Trump had nothing to do with this, obviously. Nobody asked him. They told him. You might enjoy reading the New York Times for balanced reporting.

  25. @Anonymous

    you silly cuck:

    1) Drumpf is (((their))) man. And

    2) the “American people” no longer exist. This borderless what’s-it is now 42% Jews and other hostile domestic+invasive non-Whites. Soon to be 52%….and then 62%….and then…

  26. @Jim Christian

    yeah it is…right now Drumpf has thousands of additional troops (4,000 82nd Airborne+2,000 Marines, + c. 70,000 already there) heading for the M.E., plus another B-52 squadron and etc. But still no sign of a second (or 3rd, or 4th) Carrier Battle Group moving into theatre.

  27. A123 says:

    Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdl Mahdi has now officially revealed that the US had asked him to mediate between the US and Iran and that General Qassem Soleimani

    If true, this would be a problem. However, it is a lie.

    Mahdi is saying what Tehran tells him to say. Anyone who believes Mahdi has the truth funding ability of a WaPo reporter.

    PEACE 😇

  28. Passer by says:

    Pretty bad news for the US:

    Moqtada al-Sadr, the most influential person in Iraq, is now calling the US an enemy and threatening Trump personally. If Mahdi Army joins the other Shia groups around the world, big damage will be done to the US via many means and no american will be able to stay in Iraq. Embassy could be gone too. The country will move strongly towards Russia and China. All US investment in the Iraq adventure will be totally lost.

    Angering iraqi shia is very stupid US move. They are an ascending force, with combat ready population and young and expanding demographics. Last time the US angered the iraqi shia (2004), it lost the war in Iraq even before it knew it.

  29. BitinDawg says:

    Just remember, it’s all about Israel. America has been commanded by God himself to support Israel in the abject subjugation of the Palestinians and Gaza and help Jews to shoot them across the barbed wire Gaza fence.

    Actually, I despair! America is a Christian majority country, and Bret Stephens is absolutely correct. The Jews are an intellectually superior people. Us mere Goyim, are by comparison, utterly stupid.

    America does not genuinely and honestly support Israel. America has been hornswoggled by the superior intelligence and guile of the Jewish people to support the Jew state.

    When the Jews decided to set up their own country at the turn of the twentieth century, they knew that they would need the support of Christendom. To that end they initiated a psy-op, a psychological operation tasked with rewriting Christian theology.

    Up until the turn of the twentieth century Christian theology had held that the coming of Jesus Christ had negated all of God’s covenants with the Jews. This was known as, replacement theology. That, in essence, Christians had become God’s chosen people.

    As a consequence, down through the ages, Christians and Jews had been at odds. Christ killer was a common epithet and there were many pogroms.

    Jews would have been aware that there was an obscure Christian theology that held, that God had not revoked his covenants with the Jews. That God’s covenants with the Jews remained intact and were still in force.

    This obscure theology was being preached by a ne’er do well preacher named Cyrus Scofield. What the Jews did, and surely this was, what is known as, “Jew genius”, they financed Cyrus on two trips to Europe.

    What the Jews did, was to take this obscure dispensationalist christian theology and write it into the King James version of the bible as study notes. When Scofield returned from Europe, he had the manuscript of the Scofield study bible. It is presumed that Rabbi’s and yeshiva students produced it.

    It was published, produced and distributed by the very Jewish Oxford University Press, which still holds the patent on it, and periodically updates it to keep up with changing times in the Middle East.

    There is an ample historical trail that validates this thesis.

    There is also an historical trail that reveals that today’s Jews, Ashkenazim Jews, are not descendants of the biblical era Jews, that they are Jewish converts from the land of Khazar.

    More, that the circumstances of their conversion to Judaism was a process that selected for intelligence and drive and that is why today’s Jews are an intellectually superior, driven and successful, albeit, artificial people.

    Artificial, as they are not a people that occurred naturally, over time and in a land of their own.

  30. Hibernian says:
    @houston 1992

    John Mearsheimer , in 2007 approx, said on CSPAN at the bookstore Politics/Prose that oil companies dont lobby re foreign policy.

    To anyone who believes that I have a bridge to sell you.

  31. J says: • Website

    Saker is wrong. President Trump has intimidated the Iranian clerics to the point that they are praying to Hussein to take revenge. Hussein, the Prophet’s grandson, was killed in a battle of the seventh century. They will do nothing.

  32. Bill H says: • Website
    @Haxo Angmark

    Abraham Lincoln is in transit back home. Crew is in near mutiny state due to four extensions of at sea period to nine months. Families are in San Diego complaining to news media about the Navy “breaking faith” with sailors.

    USS Truman task force has set sail, in transit to god knows where, but without the carrier, which was unable to meet the sailing date.

    So of eleven carriers, we presently have only one on station.

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