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Okay, my sense is that a large number of commentators are misunderstanding the nature of what is going on. So, this time, rather than writing an analysis, I will spell it out, ‘talking points’ – style and, hopefully, do a better job about making my point. So, here we go.

  1. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN. Let me repeat that once more. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!! Please don’t come and tell me that Flynn was wrong on Iran, on Islam or on China. I agree. But,
  2. THIS IS ABOUT POWER. As in, who is boss? Who is number one? Who is the alpha dog? The President or the ‘deep state’? That is what this is all about – showing everybody who is in charge.
  3. FLYNN WAS A SYMBOL. He was the symbol of the entire notion of draining the Washington swamp, which is mostly the 3 letter agencies + Pentagon anyway. Flynn was the guy who dared defy the thought police and be friendly with the Russians. Flynn was the man who wanted to bring the CIA and JCS back under White House control. And Flynn was the guy with contacts with SOCOM and JSOC. Flynn had to be brought down.
  4. FLYNN WAS ALSO A CORNERSTONE. For better or for worse, it is absolutely evident that Flynn was the brain behind Trump’s entire foreign policy. On some stuff Flynn was great (Russia), on some stuff he was okay (Takfiri terrorism), on some stuff he was ridiculous (China) and on some stuff he was terrible (Iran). But that is not what matters here. Listen to Kucinich who clearly says that this is not about Trump or Flynn, but about a coup against the Presidency by the US ‘deep state’. Now that Flynn has been brought down, there is no “Trump foreign policy” left.
  5. FLYNN IS ALSO A DOMINO. Okay, this is crucial, pay attention now. Putin has often been criticized for protecting his friends even when these friends are guilty of wrongdoings. Now let me ask you a simple question: would you rather stick your neck out for Trump or for Putin? Exactly. If Trump was a loyal kind of person he could have called Pence and Flynn to the Oval Office, told Flynn to apologize and told Pence to shut up. But he did nothing of the kind. By accepting Flynn’s “resignation” Trump showed that he does not protect those who fight for him. There will definitely be a domino-effect now as everybody who matters has now understood: Trump is weak, the Neocons got him by the balls, and Trump will leave you hanging when the shit hits the fan.
  6. FLYNN’S DOWNFALL IS A MESSAGE. A message to all those who hate Trump and what Trump represents. And that message is simple: we are back in control and the party is on! Now that Trump has been humiliated and broken, now that he lost his only high-IQ and powerful ally in the White House, the Neocons are the deep state are smelling blood and they will double-down and resume their attack with increased intensity. The next highly symbolic sacrificial victim might be the much-hated Steve Bannon. The bottom line is simple: the hunt is on for anti-deep-state ‘crimethinkers’.
  7. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S CHARACTER. That was the big unknown, right? Nobody really new what kind of President Trump would make. Everybody, including yours truly, enjoyed speculating about his ego, his lack of political experience, the fact that he owed nothing to anybody, that he was a deal maker, a common sense pragmatist. Well, we still don’t know what kind of President Trump will be, but I am afraid that we now know what kind of President he will NOT be: he will NOT drain the swamp, he will NOT change the subordination of US national interests to the AngloZionist Empire, he will NOT forge a historical partnership with Russia and he will NOT send the Neocons down to the basement from which they crawled out 24 years ago. Whether Trump lacks brains, spine, or balls is anyone’s guess, but it is now painfully clear that he has much more in common with Yanukovich then with Putin.

As I said, it’s over. Not because of Flynn’s views on Iran or Islam. But because Trump has caved in, he has been broken and now all that’s left is a painful 4 year long agony. That’s assuming that the Neocons don’t impeach him just to bask in their arrogance and sense of supremacy.

Frankly, my heart goes out to all those who sincerely hoped that Trump will be the man to free the US from the Neocons and restore the power of the “basket of deplorables” over the many minorities and special interests. Some will now indulge in a lot of “I told you so” but they will be wrong. To hope for the best was the right thing to do. Those who voted for Trump did the only thing in their power to prevent Hillary from occupying the White House. That was the right decision, they did the right thing, both morally and pragmatically.

But now we also need to gather our courage and accept the reality of what has taken place. Minimizing the implications of this deep state coup makes no sense whatsoever, neither morally nor pragmatically. And the reality is this:

It took the Neocons and the US deep state less than a month to overturn the results of the Presidential election.

Trump now declares that he “expects Russia to return Crimea“.

It’s over folks – welcome (back) to the war between Russia and the Empire.

PS: one more thing. Trump himself was always, of course, the candidate of one part of the ‘US deep state’. Trump did not appear ex nihilo, and neither did Flynn. It is taking place is one faction of the deep state fighting against another faction of the deep state. The US elites have been split for a while now. But since Trump now has legal authority and those trying to color revolution him do not, I speak of the deep state vs the Presidency.

(Republished from The Vineyard of the Saker by permission of author or representative)
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  1. So why? Why did Trump let him go? Don’t tell me about his character flaws. He had to have a reason.

  2. Wrong, Saker. It’s only just beginning.

    You see, some of us Trumpusards, employing a little-known analytical technique known as “having a freaking clue,” were able to divine from the very beginning that the Trump presidency would be a battle against the Deep State—that this was the very quiddity and essence of the thing—and that the enemy, in stark and utter defiance of all the prognostications from the peanut gallery, would forthwith proceed to stun the world by actually fighting back.

    This is exactly what we voted for. We elected Trump, we stand with Trump, because we were spoiling for this fight. The Trump agenda is completely incompatible with business as usual in America, and in this last election we collectively told business as usual to go piss up a rope. That, in and of itself, is already significant. There is no way back to the benighted bureaucratic despotism of the Bush/Obama years. The Deep State has been dealt a blow. Its once unassailable position has been shown to be vulnerable. It now has to do something it has never done before in its existence: it has to fight to maintain itself. No longer able to merely posit its own imperturbable grandeur, it will have to justify itself in the arena of facts and combat.

    Flynn is simply the first casualty in this battle. I expect there to be many more of them. I expect this to come to blows and to erupt into actual civil war. This is what draining the swamp looks like. Nobody ever said war was pretty.

    • Agree: Diogenes
  3. The “Deep State” and it propaganda arm (called the mainstream media) continues efforts to destroy Donald Trump. They present the idea that Russia is so evil that anyone attempting to improve relations and prevent nuclear war is a traitor who has been blackmailed or bribed. That was the theme in destroying General Flynn.

    The CIA/NSA is wiretapping and monitoring all White House communications. They were caught doing so in the last year of the Nixon administration, and probably continue to this day. It seems spying learned that General Flynn was once reimbursed for expenses on a trip to Russia, and that he contacted the Russian ambassador before Trump officially took office. That’s all! This matters to no one, but the Deep State portrayed it as treason. Flynn recognized that the USA could not destroy Iran without befriending Russia, who should be our ally anyway. But then Iran could be our ally too, so I’m not upset that Flynn is gone.

    Recall the attacks on Trump during the election. This incident is petty, and may provoke Trump to push harder and deeper than he planned.

    • Replies: @Eudoxia
  4. Anonymous [AKA "Nullenvoid"] says:

    The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.

    You think Trump & Co. didn’t see this coming or even engineer it to pull a thread on the Deep State’s blanket? Just look at how Flynn was shoe-horned in as a threat to the establishment apparatus. Look at what we learned about the internal leaks.

    Now that he’s been “cut loose,” he really can go to work.

  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Have to hand it to the Saker, he knocked this one out of the ball park.

    Scott Adams has groomed a lot of people into thinking that Trump is some kind of 5th dimensional chess player. And he is always one move ahead of the enemy.

    But Trump is being exposed as someone who is inexperienced and inept.

    Why? Why did Trump let so many of the “bad guys” into the white house? And why, why didn’t Trump go on the offensive first?

    His only chance was to come out the gate swinging while he had momentum. But now Trump has bungled so many things that I don’t think his base is strong enough to fight the empire.

    Ronald Regan was co-opted, Carter was neutralized, and JFK was offed. Did Trump really go into the white house not understanding that there was going to be a fight?

  6. john cronk says: • Website

    I agree, Intelligent Dasein.
    I think it’s good that Saker is posting these alarming pieces, and hope that the administration takes note of the important issues they raise. But I think that Trump will prove more agile and sophisticated than Saker fears. I am not convinced that he’s beaten or cowed. He’s not a quitter, but neither does he give away his strategies.
    Game on.

  7. john cronk says: • Website

    One more thing. Firing Flynn was neither a sign of weakness nor lack of character. Trump’s loyalty is to the American people, not to this or that associate or friend. His toughness is intimately tied to doing what is needed to produce good results. Each time he reacts decisively we hear cries of ‘chaos’ and ‘disarray’ from the audience, when what is actually taking place is intelligent, considered decision-making. Remember when he changed campaign managers? That was supposedly a disaster and sign of weakness, too.
    Trump could have used Flynn’s expertise, no doubt about it. But don’t blame Trump for what he can’t control. Just wait and see what he can.

  8. Dan Hayes says:

    I was very happy to support Trump’s election. There were 2 main reasons. The first was to get a good Supreme Court Justice. I am not a lawyer but people I respect believe that nominee Gorsuch will prove to be a good SCOTUS Justice. There are some disquieting things about him (e.g., being a congregant in a loopy Episcopal Church, etc), but as of now these appear to be minor.

    The main reason I supported Trump’s candidacy was his seeming desire to reach a mutually beneficial agreement with Putin. This was the one policy that Trump never backed down upon in the campaign. Now I hear tonight that Trump expects Russia to return Crimea to Kiev! That is a real downer! If that proves to be the case, it would signify the emasculation of the Trump Presidency. And for me all is lost (maybe a little too dramatic but that’s the way I presently feel).

  9. Krollchem says:

    We may be seeing a fight over two factions of the Deep State. It is instructive that Trump appears to be focused on increasing spending on the military and security apparatus of the state. His campaign slogan was Make America Great Again (MAGA) is Hebrew for combat. See the following article for an analysis of the Trump state and why it will ultimately fail as would a Hillary state have:

    How the Trump regime was manufactured by a war inside the Deep State
    A systemic crisis in the global Deep System has driven the violent radicalization of a Deep State faction

    • Replies: @bluedog

    If this administration’s whole worldview was based on one guy, then it never had a chance anyway. There have to be serious political forces supporting this worldview, pushing for it, fighting the neocon cabal. And if neocon establishment is the only game in town, then forget it, Flynn or no Flynn. Start digging a bomb shelter.

  11. Ivan K. says:

    For a sane analysis of the Flynn’s resignation, I’ll suggest reading Alexander Mercouris.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  12. Randal says:

    If the loss of Flynn is indeed the loss of Trump’s foreign policy, then that’s a good thing. A foreign policy driven by Flynn had little to redeem it bar generally shaking things up and the probably futile hope of some easing of the US’s well established and ongoing aggressive confrontationalism towards Russia. Futile, I say, because Flynn’s views on dealings with other countries are toxic, and the Russians are unlikely to be stupid enough to ditch their irreplaceable long term allies against US aggression (China and Iran) merely in return for some temporary easing of the US campaign against them, knowing as they do that the power in Washington will in due course switch back to the Russophobes, so no grand bargains are realistically likely to materialise. The window for that finally closed years ago, maybe a decade or more, when the Russians were compelled to understand the nature of the US campaign against them.

    The disadvantage to Trump of letting one of his people be forced out is real, and the deep state campaign against him is real, as is the desperate need for him to thoroughly purge the intelligence community as the first major act of his period in power.

    What is in question is whether Flynn himself is as important as Saker believes. Important, for sure. Symbolic, message and domino, doubtless. But irreplaceable cornerstone or linchpin?

    Time will tell.

  13. TheJester says:

    There is a positive aspect to the ongoing coup. Everything is finally in the open. It is now incontrovertible that there is a Deep State ruling the United States from the shadows and that the Jewish-controlled media, the Jewish-controlled financial sector, and the intelligence services (among others) are part of it.

    Recall that the CIA evolved after WWII out of a close cabal of Wall Street lawyers chartered to protect Wall Street’s overseas investments. A close look at the Dulles brothers — Allen and John — elucidates it all. The CIA specializes in turning Third World countries into American-controlled “banana republics” via covert operations, financial conspiracies, and assassination. When necessary, it operates independently of the Federal Government with a “black” budget derived from money laundering and running guns and drugs. It now appears that the intelligence services are turning on the duly elected government of the United States with the same tactics it uses to subvert foreign governments.

    If Tump goes down, game over. The United States is no longer governable. As David Talbot quotes RFK in his book, Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years,

    “‘If the American people knew the truth about Dallas,’ RFK told [an old family friend], ‘there would be blood in the streets.’”

    If Trump goes down, the truth regarding who rules this country and what happens to those who question that rule will be obvious to all. There will be blood in the streets.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  14. Kirt says:

    I hope the above analysis by the Saker is wrong, but I greatly fear it may be right on target. What now is the schedule for the regime change war against Russia, the troops for which continue to be steadily moved into position? And who is the deep state’s designated puppet to rule whatever rump of Russia will be allowed to survive? Who is the Karzai or Chelabi of this regime change?

  15. dcthrowback says: • Website
    @Intelligent Dasein

    That is the most optimistic take that we have, after the saker’s blackest of pills. It really comes down to Trump’s next move – who will he nominate to take his place? Will be compromise on ForPol to save his domestic agenda? Or will he continue to have the guts to fight this out? It’s ironic – the domestic agenda is something POTUS has less control over than our relationships w/ other nations. Saker’s point of demanding the return of Crimea is apt.

    The reasons for Flynn’s departure were flimsy at best (even Krauthammer (!) called it a “cover-up w/o a crime”), but we now we will see how steely his resolve is. Nominating a shitheel like John Bolton will tell us lots for sure.

    The gloating by such luminaries as Phillippe Raines and Hillary Clinton was telling. My wish: See Trump double down. What will actually happen? I fear the worst.

  16. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I for one, would have agreed with you entirely until the election. But once Trump began to appoint his cabinet members who were mostly billionaires and neo-cons, the game was over. Except for Steve Bannon who will be neutralized at every turn, the others have nothing in common with those who supported Mr. Trump. How could it be otherwise, they have no idea what the American worker is going through and they are compromised by money and privilege. So for the duration of the Trump presidency, I agree with the Saker. Beyond it, you could very well be right on the money.

  17. The Trumpster might want to consider quoting thus, “The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia.” ― Otto von Bismarck

  18. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    In Chess it is called a sacrifice of a major figure in order to maintain a tempo.

  19. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The people of America had few choices. War-hawk and criminal Clinton was unthinkable as a president. It increasingly appears in retrospect that confrontation with Russia was being planned but her loss put a glitch into the process. Had she been elected then right about now we’d probably start having local confrontations with the Russians over the skies of Syria with possible shoot-downs of planes and other clashes. Then there would be the ratcheting up of conflict in Ukraine with the US supplying the Kiev regime with weapons and resources, goading them into intensifying the war. We dodged a bullet by not having her elected. Flynn was gotten rid of by false pretexts and that seems to be the strategy here, to pick off key Trump people through underhanded means. We’ll have to see if this continues to work. Trump has to pick from who’s available and thus the picks can’t be perfect candidates. As a hands on executive, unlike his predecessors, I expect him to monitor what his underlings are doing and to keep them on a leash to do what he wants them to do. As we can now see the intelligence agencies spy on the president and everyone else as a control mechanism so it’s apparent why Obama was such an empty suit puppet. It may be the case that the spy agencies have effectively come to control the presidency and congress up till now.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  20. bluedog says:

    And of course that increased spending on military and the security apparatus will flow into the pockets of the companies and corporations who preform it ,as I was reading some 70% of intelligence is outsourced to these companies and corporation along with much of the military with little to no oversight by those elected to do so..

    • Replies: @krollchem
  21. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    Generally, a correct thinking. On the day of Trump’s Inauguration I wrote: ” I am a realist and I do not hope for too much. But we may finally exhale understanding that US and Russia, while not becoming friends in any meaningful way, may actually not get embroiled in a global conflict. That is already a huge tangible.” The rest? Time will tell.

  22. Veritatis says:

    What an article, everything is doomsday!?!

    Yes, Flynn’s resignation is a defeat, a sign of weakness and “they” will aim for more. What is more, Trump’s adversaries have now found a recipe they can use where more direct attacks have failed. It might have been a loyalty issue, maybe it was Pence-related, hard to tell. But the opposition will carefully analyse this winning hit.

    But don’t be so quick to condemn Trump’s character, which we did perceive during the campaign. He is an uncommonly fast learner, reads reality very well (hence his positions on Russia& ME), is a hard worker and has a bit of idealism to see him through.

    He was elected on two chants: build the wall and drain the swamp. “Thinkers” can add SCOTUS and avoiding wars.

    He can hardly drain the swamp in a month. In fact, he had already given way on “lock her up” in election night, when he probably negotiated Hillary’s head to have the tv stations concede the election to him. However, he is trying to bring new people in (from business sectors, with their own money) and curtail the revolving door.

    On foreign policy, his close advisors will be paramount. I see two groups. The first are the WH four: Priebus, Kushner, Miller and Bannon. The first three are a natural clique. The other would be men closer to his age and level of achievement: Tillerson, Mattis, etc. Pence also, and who he cliques up with will be important. It will be harder for Trump to “read reality” now, paradoxically, so who gets his ear will heavily influence his policies.

    Putin had, vis-à-vis the elites, a softer learning curve. Trump has had to broadcast his intentions to get elected. He was able to counter the “failed campaign” and the “failed transition” narratives. His agenda’s momentum has been stopped by a judge and a resignation. Let’s grant him 100 days.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
  23. You see, some of us Trumpusards, employing a little-known analytical technique known as “having a freaking clue,” were able to divine from the very beginning that the Trump presidency would be a battle against the Deep State—that this was the very quiddity and essence of the thing—and that the enemy, in stark and utter defiance of all the prognostications from the peanut gallery, would forthwith proceed to stun the world by actually fighting back.

    One thing I’ve noted about Saker since I discovered him, is that on most things about the US and the US-Russia relationship, Saker is clueless. Saker is pretty much clueless about Ukraine as well. The main reason to read his screeds is for the laugh inducing posts.

    This isn’t even close to being over. It’s only just begun.

  24. @Dan Hayes

    I think I’ll buy another few thousand bucks in Lukoil or Gazprom stock to register my disapproval of the anti-Russian sanctions, aggressive troop deployments by NATO near Russia’s border, and all the other warmongering.

    Maybe some PhosAgro or Uralkali, too.

  25. Anonymous [AKA "It\'sfasteddie"] says:
    @Ivan K.

    Please leave a link.

    • Replies: @Ivan K.
    , @Mao Cheng Ji
  26. krollchem says:

    David Korten wrote a book on it called “when corporations rule the world”. Mussolini called it the corporate state.

    the Republic has degraded into a conflict between the authoritarian state (Sparta) and the mob (Democracy/Ochlocracy).

  27. lavoisier says: • Website

    Either that or purges with state sanctioned murder of those who challenge the deep state and a restoration of the gulags.

  28. Randal says:

    The fact is that Flynn is gone, for better or worse. I’m a lot less sorry to see him go than Saker clearly is, because of his toxic foreign policy positions other than on Russia.

    Regardless, the issue now is who can make the story work for them. The political and media establishment are already pushing for a full McCarthyist witch-hunt on “Russia links”, whereas the real story should be a call for a full inquiry into the criminal offence by someone senior in the US intelligence community of leaking the content of a national security recording, for political manipulation purposes.

    The establishment has the megaphone, but its version is patent nonsense. The Trumpists (which doesn’t include all the people in the administration – Pence, for instance) have truth on their side, but will struggle to get their side heard. Who will win? That’s where it is still all to play for.

    Is there even anyone both honest enough and senior enough in Washington to conduct the kind of searing non-whitewash inquiry into and subsequent purge of the US intelligence community? I doubt it, somehow.

  29. john cronk says: • Website
    @Dan Hayes

    I agree, Dan. I don’t like the sound of Trump’s comment about Crimea either. I’m hoping it’s just another card he’s playing but if so it’s too insulting and blatant. Not a good tack to take on Trump’s part.

    • Agree: Old fogey
  30. john cronk says: • Website
    @Dan Hayes

    Another thing I don’t like about Gorsuch is his wimpy, arrogant comment about Trump’s criticism of judges being ‘discouraging’.
    The truth is discouraging to a judge?

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  31. utu says:

    When gen. Flynn was the director of DIA and gen. Dempsey was Chief of Staff of the US Army, DIA engaged in sabotaging CIA weapon shipments to rebels in Syria to keep open channels of communication with Assad via Tel Aviv, Moscow and Berlin.

    Clearly Flynn is the only known face of the unknown cabal of military officers who do not agree with the policies in the Middle East drawn by neocons and executed by CIA. W/o Flynn it is hard to imagine that Trump will try to change the course of American policy in Middle East.

    Is there anything else that we still could be hopeful about Trump? I do not see there anything. I think that Trump presidency will be reduced to the worst possible Republican hardline dogma that is only concerned with the big business. Great for corporations, great for banks lousy for consumers. The immigration is just a talk. Watch how Trump will cave on H1B visas under the pressure form big business. He caves on everything when push comes to shove. He will just want to survive his presidency pretty much like Obama.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  32. Anonymous [AKA "septentrionalist"] says:

    “Why did Trump let him go?”

    The stated reason was that he had misled Pence regarding his contacts with Russia. I have no idea whether that is wholly accurate.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  33. It has been clear that Trump is getting in over his head. Let him win the election and give it a shot was my view. It’s still my view. Trump just got here. He has been under withering fire since before the election. He may still find his legs. If Trump fails to achieve regime change in Imperial Washington it will not be because he lacks brains, balls, energy or character. It will be because the job was too big for any one man. Should he find that he is indeed powerless I hope he will resign. Pence would be a more appropriate puppet.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  34. The constant whirlwind, emphasis on wind, regarding confrontation with Russia is emanating from the sluggish bowels of a half dead empire. It takes two to make a confrontation. Russia is to busy to take notice of the attack spaniels snapping at its heel. Busy firming up business with China , Belarus and most of Asia to worry about the home grown posturing that terrifies us. They have seen our mighty war machine broken over and over by guys in pajamas for decades now. Don’t tell me about our great big nukes which are nothing but an expensive and fragile display of might much like old suits of armor in glass cases in museums

  35. RobinG says:

    “Clearly Flynn is the only known face of the unknown cabal of military officers who do not agree with the policies in the Middle East…..”

    What is FLYNN’S position on ISRAEL ??

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  36. Those who voted for Trump did the only thing in their power to prevent Hillary from occupying the White House. That was the right decision, they did the right thing, both morally and pragmatically.

    I still don’t regret the fact that Hellary lost. The fact is, the Ziomedia and the Deep State have now invested so much of their credibility in destroying Trump that he is damaged goods. Even if he caves completely and gives the neocons a 100%, he will make a very poor spokesman for any major NATO-led wars. They are simply not going to be able to rehabilitate his image in time to undo the damage. Oh, and Democrats will now go back to giving a sh*t about foreign wars.

    So, even if Trump betrays us completely, we still come out ahead of where we would be with the Hell-bitch, our national Ziomedia darling.

  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t hope points 2, 3 and 6 to be understood, no matter how you put them.

    After all, the current caste hierarchy mirrors the understanding hierarchy, and differences in power mirror differences in discernment and discrimination.

  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Trump may not turn out to be what we had hoped for. But the Deep State, along with it’s media operatives, is being exposed. That will continue. Millions of Americans are waking up and this is great news.

  39. Pepe Escobar is slightly more optimistic:

    Now I’m waiting to hear from Thierry Meyssan at, who has been a huge booster of Gen. Flynn.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  40. nsa says:

    Anyone today catch Butt Boy Trump kneeling and kissing the ring of a smirking furniture salesman from Philadelphia? Apparently Butt Boy has no fixed beliefs at all…..a perfect blank slate the GS shysters, washed up generals, rhino pols, worthless offspring can write anything they want on. The nicest thing anyone had to say in this comment section is that the incontinent Clinton crone would have been worse…..

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  41. @Anonymous

    Thanks.But I was fishing for something more believable.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Randal
  42. Anonymous [AKA "Gillian Grannum"] says: • Website

    Wow! I’ve never read anything by you quite this wrong. And I typically admire your work.

    You are wrong, sir. Trump is not playing the game by the rules of the game. He’s playing by his own rules. Flynn was planned as the sacrificial lamb. He is going to be replaced by a Mattis pick, one sharing a seat at the table with Bannon who is Trump’s Sr Adviser for a reason. Bannon’s no slouch. In any case Flynn’s already accomplished the critical task Trump needed him to do – reorganize the NSA. Now whoever comes in will run with the game plan.

    It is also quite obvious from Flynn’s resignation letter that his role has changed with the Trump administration. That’s all. He will support Trump outside his administration and he’ll still have Trump’s ear. Trump made that abundantly clear today.

    In this article you haven’t allowed yourself to think outside the box long enough to wonder why Trump is even in the White House. I can’t think of anyone who has been counted out as politically dead as many times as Trump who just keeps on trucking.

    You are also ignoring the Jeff Sessions appointment, the pedophilia busts that are creeping closer and closer to Virginia and Washington DC. Hence the desperation by all ensnared to get Trump impeached or otherwise disposed of.

    Trump needs to simply give the go ahead to all the right Committees in Congress (Chaffetz’ springs to mind) and he has grounds to get Hillary Clinton on lying to Congress, among all her other crimes – lots there with no obstruction coming in from the DOJ.

    Then there’s Trump’s rising approval rating among Americans as well as increasing disgust in mainstream America with the clear bias they’re being fed by every organ all around them that Trump’s bad, bad, bad. It’s not playing well, of that I can assure you.

    Put on your thinking cap and have another go at this one when you’re sufficiently out of the deep state box.

    In the meantime Trump has to get Priebus outta there. The power will shift immediately with that one move.

  43. @WorkingClass

    Because Trump trusts that Priebus will help him navigate the political waters of DC, and Priebus used the excuse that Flynn was too cozy with Russia to sack him and thereby play along with the deep-state narrative as a way of deflecting the coup d’etat currently underway.

    In Priebus world, joining the deep state or submitting to it (islam in the pure meaning of the word?) is a survival tactic, but in the real world, it is akin to the victim pulling down his collar while putting his head on the chopping block in the hope that the decaptitation will be swift and clean. In other words, Flynn’s sacking could well mean that Trump has joined the Borg and is now being assimilated.

  44. Randal says:

    Thanks.But I was fishing for something more believable.

    It’s plausible if you also assume that Trump had lost confidence in Flynn and wasn’t averse to getting rid of him to keep the peace with Pence, who presumably was gunning for Flynn. And it’s plausible that Trump might have lost confidence in Flynn after working with him closely recently and seeing his unhinged attitudes on Iran.

    Trump had a clear choice – to bang Pence’s and Flynn’s heads together or to side with Pence and get rid of Flynn. There’s no reason to suppose he had to do the latter. Presumably he wouldn’t have, if he hadn’t been not averse to the idea anyway.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  45. Ivan K. says:

    Steve Pieczenik, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State: The Dispensable Mike Flynn!

    Dispensable. Even a close aide is dispensable. That’s along the line of what I said. I compared Trump with a car driver, and his staff with parts of the vehicle.
    The fact of what occurred is this: change of a part of the car, in the fourth week of a four-year journey. Big deal.

    The pundits need to be reminded that the government isn’t run by the interaction between the opposition people out of office, and the Oval Office. The men in the office run the system*.

    That the changed part is human doesn’t change anything: every good collective enterprise experiences changes of membership, and some highly successful ones change members with frequency.

    The media, both pro- and anti-Trump, seem to have a delusion of grandeur, attributing cruciality to momentary psychological impressions in the public.
    Perhaps they need one more banal reminder? Trump may care about looks – but rather than a circus acrobat to whom any mistake spells the end, he is a lifelong successful CEO.

    * Pieczenik: “Please rest assured that Trump has built a very strong phalanx of operatives at the cabinet level who are effectively manning the key national security positions. In time, one must expect that more civilians and others will be dismissed.”
    “Many civilians in the massive USG bureaucracy should be frightened. They too realize that they are disposable.That’s why we elected the “Fixer” Donald Trump to create a smaller federal government and a larger private sector. ”

    • Replies: @Ivan K.
  46. Ivan K. says:
    @Ivan K.

    edit: ‘with frequency’

    high frequency.

  47. @WorkingClass

    The best comment so far:

    It will be because the job was too big for any one man.

    A corollary is that anyone who wants the job clearly doesn’t realize the verity of the concept, so has no business being there.

    I’m hoping the circus will shake a significant number of ‘Merkins out of their arrogant ignorance, but I’m not betting on it.

    ‘Merkins would do well to understand that the state is not their friend and it does them no good to put their faith in it, but that’ll never happen either.

    I’m buying stock in popcorn.

  48. @RobinG

    Short answer:

    Lt. General Michael Flynn and historian [term used loosely] Michael Ledeen’s new book, The Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies,

    Read more at:

    Tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are.

    Who is Michael Ledeen?

    Ledeen was the leader of the brains[term used loosely] behind war on Iraq.

    Ledeen was intimately involved in Iran Contra; the Italian connection (BASTA!!!) re “yellow cake” .

    Ledeen’s major patron (and bridge partner) was Jimmy Cayne of Bear Stearns.
    Don’t know who his current sugar daddy is.

  49. Ivan K. says:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

    Leaking, and even illegal classified leaking, has been a big problem in Washington for years. Failing @nytimes (and others) must apologize!

    The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! They will be caught!

    DJT did with Flynn more or less what he wanted, and as he wanted. Now, he uses the resulting outrage, et al., to remove the administrative anti-Trumpers with ease & brutality. In a word, it looks like machiavellianism.


    P. S. Steve Pieczenik clarifies:

  50. KenH says:

    According to the FBI Flynn’s actions did not violate the Logan Act, so there was no illegality. The answer to a question depends on how it’s asked and it’s possible that Flynn didn’t purposely mislead Pence, but that Pence didn’t specifically ask about sanctions and worded his inquiry in a general manner. Flynn may have also felt he was within his rights to omit certain details and keep his answers high level.

    Trump should have taken Flynn aside and cautioned him to be more careful in the future, but still stand by him. The fact that Trump caved so early will cause anti-Trumpers in Washington to smell blood in the water and target people they don’t like knowing that if they turn the heat up enough Trump will defecate in his pants and fire (YOU’RE FIRED!) the person under siege by the establishment swamp things.

    It looks like Steve Bannon is next up to be disparaged, impugned and scandalized.

  51. KenH says:

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN. Let me repeat that once more. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!!

    Well, it is and it isn’t. I believe the objective was two pronged; to rid the Trump admin of someone who was no friend to the bloated intelligence apparatus as presently constituted and as a shot across Trump’s bow that he isn’t big man on campus, so he better watch out.

    I think Trump is such a fish out of water when it comes to the machinations of Tel Aviv on the Potomoc that’s he’s relying too heavily on people like Reince Preibus and neo-con and Israel worshipping V.P. Mike Pence. This means the swamp is more likely to be replenished instead of drained.

    No doubt the next national security advisor will be of neo-con pedigree and a Dr. Strangelove character who desires war with Russia, China, Iran, N. Korea, Paraguay,Figi and just about everyone who poses a threat to the Jewish world order and empire.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  52. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Seamus Padraig

    Pepe Escobar is slightly more optimistic:

    It is a cute piece but all these variations on the subject of a real causality fly out of the window once one considers the state in which, the supposedly free in her actions, US is. The United States is not free in her actions, in fact–she is extremely constrained since is running out of resources, and running really fast. Also, references to Kissinger, this old US foreign policy supposedly “guru”, are also overblown in the article. OK, say Kissinger, as one of the main forces behind (or below) the “swamp” places “his” people in Trump’s Admin, does it change the fact that this “guru” was behind one of the largest foreign policy failures in history by inspiring a creation of US’ main economic and, to a degree, geopolitical rival–China? I remember, prior to Trumps’ inauguration, the idea of using Russia as “China of 1970s and 80s” as a geopolitical counterweight was floating around. If this is the “level” of US geopolitical thinking (and I have an academic case to make that it is precisely the “level”) then this “deep state” and its operatives will continue to merely destroy the United States. I am not, in this particular post, trying to out-Escobar Pepe Escobar, who is a good level writer, I am merely giving some framework. US “deep state” lost in the last 15 years every single war it unleashed, with it it squandered most of US geopolitical, economic, military and moral capital. Most of it is gone and continues to wither away. Does Trump know this? Hell, yes. Recall his main election slogan and, as Saker and I wrote, there IS a military support behind Trump, support of people who are currently most qualified to pass judgements on US’ real, not BS, power or lack thereof. Once all this is considered, the issue of Flynn becomes merely a tactical, not strategic affair. But it has to be stated–everything we all observe now is more than just some political intrigue, it is a manifestation of a colossal tectonic processes of real, fait accompli, multipolarity being in its “settle down” phase. It is already here and no matter what Kissinger (as Pepe claims, wrongly) or anyone does the political turmoil in US will continue to grow, because whole American political “class” (or “elites”) are ignorant, incompetent and one trick pony. Trump was elected to arrest this decline and, maybe, try to reverse it to preserve US as a great power, not some hyper or whatever BS meme. I know that he understands this and once this is considered, Flynn’s resignation becomes just a little bump on the road which leads only to two options:

    1. Soft “landing” and then “we’ll see what could be done with the patient”, maybe she will survive;
    2. Total (self)destruction of the United States–literal disintegration into several states and eventual (if global war to be, hopefully, avoided) pursuit and persecution as war criminals in the international court: very many people from this proverbial “swamp” and many of those people know it or, since many of them are stupid, feel it.

    So, am I wrong in my “frameworking” here? Possibly, but once this is considered in the scale of task Trump faces , I have to agree–the war didn’t start yet and I wouldn’t put (or read) too much into Flynn’s resignation. As I wrote above, as in chess, this whole Flynn affair is an exchange of a figure for tempo. Neither US, nor Trump have much time left, but that is the separate discussion. In the end, as Clausewitz said: it is legitimate to judge an event by its outcome for it is the soundest criterion(c). Looking back at the last 25-30 years of US history one can observe only a decline in every metric, which constitutes the meaning of real power, as I type this. Without a famous “rotation of elites” US will not survive.

  53. RobinG says:

    “….Trump might have lost confidence in Flynn after working with him closely recently and seeing his unhinged attitudes on Iran.”

    Did you hear Trump’s press conference today? Flynn is gone, but Trump still making absurd (and unhinged?) statements about Iran. Sure, it’s just talk, but the more he drills down on this, the harder it will be to correct the course of US popular thinking.

    (And BTW, Trump keeps citing the top-level classified briefings he now gets from the intelligence services. Has it occurred to him that those briefers may also be the disloyal, back-stabbing leakers?)

    On the bright side, he continued his just war against the lying media. The information leaks are great ammo against the ‘intelligence’ 5th column as well. Trump understands publicity. If he exposes the propaganda networks, it will be good for all of us. But not if he substitutes his own false narratives.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @MarkinLA
  54. Randal says:

    I didn’t see the full conference, just some great extracts of him righteously bashing the media (including the BBC). But for sure, Trump talks a lot of idiocy on Iran, but then again he talked all that about ending the agreement before he was elected and sensibly backed away from that once in office.

    The bottom line is that he didn’t have to give up Flynn, so the simplest assumption is that he was not all that sorry to see him go, for whatever reason and despite the cost to him in appearance terms.

    On the bright side, he continued his just war against the lying media. The information leaks are great ammo against the ‘intelligence’ 5th column as well. Trump understands publicity. If he exposes the propaganda networks, it will be good for all of us.

    Yes indeed.

    It’s a win-win for those who see the profound sickness in the US sphere establishments, in some ways. Even if they bring Trump down, they’ll likely do catastrophic damage to their own credibility in doing so (already have, in fact).

  55. MarkinLA says:

    Yeah, I wish he would just let Crimea die. The Russian’s ain’t giving it back and the Ukrainians ain’t taking it back. WE need to forget all about it and remember this lesson in stupidity the next time we try and give assurances we can’t back up (like Clinton did to Ukraine).

    • Replies: @artichoke
  56. Veritatis says:
    @Ivan K.

    Great article, by a well-trained mind. Mercouris understands the personalities involved, as well as the capabilities of each office/position, how govmnt politics are played, and the ways to leverage the media. Thank you.

  57. Anonymous [AKA "LexD"] says:

    Saker is great but sometimes he lets his defeatist side ruin his articles.

    Trump’s public position on Russia (or anything for that matter) is an opener for negotiation.

    Anyone who takes what Trump says literally, hasn’t read Art of the Deal, and IMO isn’t fit to comment on Trump’s tactics.

    Trump is ALWAYS negotiating. Saying Russia has to give Crimea back was “free”. He puts it out there, so when he talks to Putin, Crimea becomes part of the negotiation. Trump put it on the table for “free” and he can now give it (the thing he got for free) back, while maybe getting something in return.

    Again, do not ever take Trump literally. You will miss everything he intends to do.

  58. Okay second try at posting this message : First step is to finally realize and make public the fact that the so-called “deep-state” is not comprised of super-powered sourcerers who have taken over the whole planet through mind-control , rather their only leverage and power source being their zillions of disposable bucks and their image of unlimited power foisted on the hapless public by a complicit malicious MSM.
    They are not intelligent as evidenced by their advancing of such a tainted candidate as HC,and through their totally flawed presidential campaign, and also as evidenced by their current media hysteria.
    If they were indeed so powerful and souvereign, they would have themselves totally under control and they would be persuing their goal of one world gov in a calm, cool and collected manner.
    Fact is however they are now completely dissolving and losing the last remnants of their collective insane mind, and they most certainly are on the road to destruction, as evidenced by their hystrionic grabbing of every absurd straw to try and stop DT, and they will not succeed, it is over for them and they know it, period.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  59. Paul C. says:

    Agree. Pence is a major neocon and Preibus is part of the Republican apparatus, which is also neocon. The neocon king makers are likely using them in this game of chess and just took out the opposing queen, or knight at least. The only question is why did Trump approve it? Either he had misgivings about Flynn or is enamored and persuaded by Pence. From his statements I believe it’s the latter.

    Pence though is a modern day LBJ.

    • Replies: @artichoke
  60. Anonymous [AKA "A. Ellis-Maryland"] says:

    President Pence, Vice President Spicer and the AC/DC Mad Dog “Magen David” Hexagram Warrior Monk (Mad Dog) run the show. There is no need to impeach Trump. They will let him keep his Twitter account, rhetoric and rallies, and what’s left of his fortune, but the three mentioned above are now the front men on behalf of the Deep State Cryptocracy.

    In reference to the possible occult aspects of the third person of the triad mentioned above; he was in charge of the assault on Fallujah in 2004 when the US military blasted “music” from the androgynously named rock band AC/DC (many of the survivors of the siege or their successors subsequently became cadres of the group the media calls ISIS; Isis is the name of a devil “goddess” of antiquity”). The so-called “Magen David” or “Star of David”, symbol of the modern counterfeit “Israel”, has nothing to do with King David historically. It is a Hexagram. It represents androgyny, the combination of the male and female aspects in one body. Those of us who used to drink when we were young know that Mad Dog is a code word for the wine, Magen David 2020. The medieval occult Knights Templar of Jerusalem were known as the Warrior Monks. The modern Ordo Templi Orientis deep cover Masonic organization is named after the Knights Templar. All this may indicate that Mad Dog’s real loyalty is not to the United States, but to a certain Zionist entity in the Middle East. It also may indicate that the year 2020 is “targeted” (Target stores-androgynous restrooms) by the Deep State Cryptocracy for the final triumph of the androgynous Hexagram, viz. Anglo-Zionist World Supremacy and Homosexual Tyranny, i e. the death “kultur”. All the above may just be coincidence. I am not having fun with this. I am just examining possibilities.

    • Replies: @artichoke
  61. @Veritatis

    A third chant developed: “Lock her up”.

    The Nine Words.

  62. Oh, bullsh*t! Deep state this, deep state that.

    Sitting here, Saturday, February 18, and Trump’s first pick, Harward, turns down his offer. Speaks volumes, mes amis.

    Secondly, look to Yemen. Looks a little neocon-ish to me. Despite some daring-do raid ostensibly to squash al-Qaeda (Qaida…whatever), where are our forces in Yemen? Well, you won’t find mention of them in anything remotely resembling news in the U.S.

    So, from SOTT:

    Saudi-backed “Southern Resistance” forces and Hadi loyalists, alongside al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), launched a new offensive against the Houthis in western Yemen on Wednesday.

    This is not the first time Saudi-backed (and by extension, Washington-backed) forces have teamed up with al-Qaeda in Yemen.

    The same old, same old. Our dear friends, the Saudi Intelligence forces aka al-Qaeda, and, of course, our really dear friends, the Israelis. Gosh…kind of reminds of Chechnya. Oh…how foolish of me. That also involved Bush-CIA! Of course there’s no Bush-CIA involved now.

  63. artichoke says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You didn’t explain: why was Flynn a casualty? Why even give him up? Without that your optimism is a bit hollow because you didn’t refute the point of the article.

    Agree though we’ve got to stick with Trump, he’s by far the best we’ve got and he’s doing other great things. Most of his cabinet picks have been radical departures from business as usual; I love them and don’t begrudge them their fortunes.

  64. artichoke says:

    Not only was Mad Dog 20/20 a wine.

    “Mogen David” was a brand too.

  65. artichoke says:
    @Paul C.

    I don’t know what Pence’s policy inclinations are. All I know is he’s a ruthless political killer. What happened in that VP debate was the finest destruction of an arguably talented opponent, Tim Kaine, I have ever seen. Not even Trump is that good (recall that he needed Christie’s help in taking out Rubio in that Republican debate.)

    It is very troubling though that Trump espouses one foreign policy, and then both Pence and Nikki Haley “correct” him. Haley can be fired. Pence cannot be. And if Pence doesn’t support Trump even here, indeed some might think it’s good to remove Trump to get Pence — as you speculate.

    Maybe Trump needs foreign policy to quiet down a bit, so he can push through bills in Congress (Obamacare replacement, tax reform, border wall funding, others) and later after the legislation is signed into law, since foreign policy really is in his total control, he can switch on that front.

  66. artichoke says:

    It’s like someone made him say it, but he said it with no enthusiasm or conviction.

    “I expect Russia to return Crimea.”

    like it’s a library book or a tool you borrowed. And Russia can say that “return” is nonsense because except for a blip in history, Crimea has been a part of Russia. And then at the appropriate moment when he’s ready for the blowback, Trump can say withl disinterest equal to his original “return” comment, “oh, I guess that’s right, forget Crimea.”

  67. Eudoxia says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    He is already pushing harder and deeper than he planned. Tillerson is busy handing out pink slips on the 7th Floor of the State Department. Not just re-assigning but firing people. I see this as an expedited retaliation for the Flynn debacle. They are aware of the dangers and Trump has just upped the ante considerably. He’s going after and de-fanging the deep state.

    Also note worthy is Trumps rally in Florida recently where he appeared without a tie – I’ve never seen a President attend a rally after they take office. He’s breaking ranks alright.

    I definitely agree with Saker there has been a split in the PTB and let’s face it – even Superman would be hard pressed to take on both sides of this dirty coin at once. He has to take on one side at a time. We just have to keep backing him until such times he proves he is unworthy of this if he does.

  68. Max Payne says:

    Maybe when a President gets sworn in and the CIA fill him in about JFK most realize its better to play ball than to have your brains splattered all over your wife’s dress in a motorcade.

  69. Anonymous [AKA "Free the TrumpRolled!"] says:

    As in, who is boss? Who is number one? Who is the Alpha Dog?
    “Who’s the alpha dog? You’re the alpha dog, Roosh. OK, now roll over. Catch the treat! Now donate some alpha sperm into the alpha cup. Good Roosh dog, good.”

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