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The recent agreement between the USA and Russia really solves nothing, it does not even end the war, and both sides are expressing a great deal of caution about its future implementation. And yet, this is a huge victory for Russia. While it is too early to say that “the Russian won in Syria”, I think that it is now fair to say that the Russian position on Syria has won. Here is why:

First: nobody is suggesting anymore that Assad will be ousted or Damascus taken. That, in turn, means that everybody has now recognized that Syrian Arab Republic, backed by Russia, has successfully repelled the aggression of the huge coalition the AngloZionists built to overthrow Assad.

Second: Russia has forced the UNSC and the USA to admit that the vast majority of those who fight Assad today are terrorists. Of course, this is not how this was declared, but if you look at the organizations which the UNSC has already declared as ‘terrorists’ then you already have an absolute majority of the anti-Assad forces. This means that the moral and legal legitimacy of the anti-Assad forces is lies in tatters.

Third: regardless of what Erdogan does actually try to do next, there are now clear signs that neither NATO, nor the EU nor even the Turkish high military command want a war with Russia. And that means that Erdogan’s gamble has not paid off and that his entire Syria policy is now comprehensively dead. Keep in mind that following the treacherous attack on the Russian Su-24 the Kremlin made it a policy goal to “Saakashvilize” Erdogan. This goal is now almost reached and Erdogan’s future looks very, very bleak: everybody ( except maybe the Saudis) is sick and tired of this maniac. The best thing which could happen to Turkey now would for the military to get rid of Erdogan and to replace him with somebody willing to repair all the damage he did.

Fourth: all the threats to impose a no-fly zone or to occupy Syria have now been invalidated by an agreement which basically declares that anybody not respecting the cease-fire is a legitimate target for engagement and destruction.

Fifth: the USA had to accept the humiliation of having to agree to all of the Russian terms for the current ceasefire. Yes, of course, the USA can, and probably will, try renege on part, or all, of this agreement, but the precedent has been set and it will be very hard, if not impossible, for the USA to openly return to the pre-2016 policies.

Sixth: does anybody still remember the rhetoric of Hillary Clinton about Syria and Russia? Her position was crystal clear: Assad must go and those who support him “punished”. Even after the Russian military offensive began, the US refused to tell the Russians where the “good terrorists” were and where the “bad terrorists” were. No exchange of information with Russians was acceptable. Now the Americans had to agree to work with the Russians on a map of Syria designating where the participants of the ceasefire and were those who were not included in the ceasefire were deployed. In other words, the US will now have to share with Russia all the info it previously refused to share and work with the Russians on a daily basis.

Seventh: Russia has basically co-opted the so-called “Free Syrian Army”. How? By basically forcing every single faction in Syria to chose between one of two possible statuses: being a ‘terrorist’ (and a fair target for destruction) or being a participant in a political process entirely designed by Russia. The Russians are now even opening a “Truce Center” at the Khmeimin airbase near Latakia which will now “render assistance” to all the parties to the ceasefire.


The new face of Russian diplomacy 🙂

This, for the time being, mainly a diplomatic victory, of course, but a Russian diplomatic victory made possible by a Russian military victory. A tiny Russian military contingent has basically completely neutralized the plans of an entire worldwide Empire. That, in itself, is an amazing achievement.

The other big winner here iare, in my opinion, the Kurds who, according to British officials, appear to be coordinating their military operations with the Syrian army and the Russian Aerospace Forces and who now might well even achieve their dreams of joining the Iraqi and Syria regions of Kurdistan. Which is just about the worst nightmare for the Turks come true, hence the still remaining risk of a Turkish military operation ostensibly to create a ‘buffer zone’ but really to save face. That kind of intervention will remain a possibility for as long as the Turks can continue to hope to commit aggression against their neighbors under the protection of NATO and the USA. And that ain’t gonna change anytime in the future.

And then there are the Saudis. They are very, very angry. They are angry to the point of making not so subtle threats about using nuclear weapons to deal with their adversaries. See for yourself:

Actually, since Pakistan got The Bomb, I would not dismiss any Saudi claims of having a number of nuclear devices. But what does that really mean?

Absolutely nothing.

It is quite possible that the Saudis have the know how for a nuclear device. And it is quite possible that they even got their hands on enough nuclear materials for a few bombs. They might even have succeeded in purchasing a few nuclear devices from the Pakistanis or Israelis. But even if that is true, the reality is that the Saudis don’t even have the military capability to deal with the poorest Arab country on the planet (Yemen) and that they most definitely don’t have the military capability to engage their nuclear devices in a way which would allow them to achieve any kind of military advantage. After all, what are we talking about here? Using nuclear weapons against the Syrian military? Against Iran? Against Russia? This is absolutely ridiculous. The reality is that whatever nuclear capabilities the Saudis might or might not have, the fact that they would make nuclear threats is just a sign of weakness and fear, not a sign of strength. This is why nobody is impressed by these statement, least of all the intended targets of such threats.

While it is quite true that the latest agreement between the USA and Russia does not mark the end of the war in Syria, it is a turning point, a kind of a Minsk-2 Agreement which nobody really wants to comply with, but which seals the defeat of the AngloZionist plans in Syria as much as Minsk-2 meant the defeat of the Ukronazi dream.

Time is now on the Russian/Syrian side. With each passing day the Russian task force in Syria will become more powerful, as will the Syrian Armed Forces. That, by itself, will not be enough to defeat Daesh, and we can expect a stiff resistance from the Takfiri crazies, but the writing is on the wall for all to see: the more the Russians and the Americans become directly and jointly involved, the less Turkey and Saudi Arabia will be able to determine the outcome of the war. In other words, while this is far from being the end of Daesh, it is the beginning of the end for Daesh in Syria.

Yet again the nay-sayers and Putin-haters have been proven wrong. To be honest, so have I: I would never have guessed that the Russians could have achieved so much with so little and yet they did pull off this extremely dangerous gamble and they won. Only an extremely skillful combination of military, economic, diplomatic and political means could have yielded such a remarkable result but Putin, apparently, found this perfect mix. The path ahead remains extremely dangerous, for sure, but the outcome of the 20 week Russian military intervention in Syria is nothing short of remarkable.

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  1. KA says:

    The far reaching conclusions of this saga have already been chronicled in US and UK. The zest for war was shamed ridiculed ,and thawarted by public . It gave rise to Corbyn and Trump and Sander . In Pakistan, people came to realize that the custodian of faith – Saudi Arab was nothing but usurper looter,and murderous thugs . Turkey’s mad Erdogan has been exposed as cheat and thief who refers Arab and Palestinian to further his interests Turkey ‘s military ,academy and opposition are realizing what this shifty deceptive man has done to the country and the region to get his own fortune secured. World has realized with relief 27 yrs afterSoviet collapse that the suzerainty of the West or Chicago Consensus are two threats to the civilization that could be challenged and rolled back. Tyrannical end of the world is not inevitable.
    Israel is hated across the globe and in US the Jews are finding the country to be nothing but undemocratic uncivilized uninterested in peace . American leaders are not earning applause by Standing With Israel . Neocons are exposing their militaristic zingoistic roots by slandering Trump. They possibly will do a reverse Scoop Jackson by leaving GOP for Hilaary they way they left Democrats of McGovern for Cheney Rumsfield Reagan in 1970s. Suddenly all over the world, 1% are being challenged. Zionists and fanatics of all stripes are earning their long overdue comeuppance .
    It is a hopeful time again .
    World without neocon or Saudi miscreants would be a healthy place agin to breathe in .

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    , @annamaria
  2. dearieme says:

    It is, I suppose, a consequence of clear-thinking attention to national interest – or, at least, to Putin’s interest.

    When did the US last indulge in attention to national interest? The blogs are still full of feeble attempts to justify W’s attack on Iraq; until errors in the past are recognised and analysed, it’s none too probable that the US will devise an intelligent foreign policy.

    • Replies: @tbraton
  3. First of all I am not a Putin hater just a realist. I refuse to have my opinions or conclusions tainted by either uncritical admiration or blind hatred of this or that person. Having said that I must say that this a rather premature celebration. The war is far from over. As a matter of fact there is a difference between Russia-US agreement and the actual ceasefire which does not come into effect until February 27. Even if it does come into effect since the majority of the fighters are not a party to that ceasefire I do not understand all this enthusiasm. Judging from past implementations of such ceasefires in other conflicts I would say that it is just an attempt to gain time for implementation of a new strategy. Just because we do not hear any more that Assad has to go does not mean that he can stay.

  4. Stephen says: • Website

    A very insightful article. The devastation and destruction of Syria by a number of countries, I believe is a War Crime of massive proportions. Those who plotted and planned this illegal war on a sovereign country should be put on trial. See evidence in link below:

  5. attonn says:

    Pretty amazing what 30 well-armed, well-maintained, hard-working military aircraft can do.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  6. KA says:

    Not everything isn’t lost for the West. Instead of having one weakened fragile state – Syria- America has now three or four : Syria,Turkey,Saudi,and Emirate. The leaders of these countries are hated by everybody from London to Mosow. China doesn’t trust. So the leaders both civilian and military , are now physically dependent on the West for their corporal survival before death takes them to their maker. Now they would do anything for US. Afghan, Libyan,Syrian involvement will pale into insignificance. West will make these monsters ,discredited at home and abroad ,do anything ,lick any keister,and wage unrest anywhere the west wants.
    Can oneday America attack southern Russia to kill ” ISIS” ? Can west attack China or India to kill ” IS” ? Why not? There may even be initial support from the central government of those countries depending on the level of the trauma inflicted on those countries by ghost of IS.

    Erdogan like Saddam has been played by America. Like Saddam,Erdogan will pay for crossing Israel.

  7. tbraton says:

    “The blogs are still full of feeble attempts to justify W’s attack on Iraq; until errors in the past are recognised and analysed, it’s none too probable that the US will devise an intelligent foreign policy.”

    I believe polls showed a majority of Americans still believed that Saddam Hussein possessed WMDs even after GWB openly declared that no WMDs were found, so I’m not surprised that some Americans are still arguing on blogs that the Iraq War was justified. Even Jeb!!! finally conceded last spring, after going back and forth for five days, that the Iraq War was a mistake. The really troublesome thing is that Marco Rubio was still defending GWB and the War at the last debate in SC. And many people still think he is qualified to be President of the U.S. and has a good chance at securing the nomination. Now that’s scary.

  8. 5371 says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    [Just because we do not hear any more that Assad has to go does not mean that he can stay.]

    Just because we do not hear any more that the earth is flat does not mean that it is round.

  9. As an Anglo, and more or less Zionist, I just want to say that if actual Anglos & Zionists had been united to destroy Syria, and create another stateless zone, it would have happened. I know “AngloZionist” means little more than “People I don’t like”, but presenting the agreement as a humiliation for AngloZionists is just going to get peoples’ backs up. You need to consider why the USA agreed to it, after all. Many in Israel don’t want radical Wahabbis controlling Syria. According to Seymour Hersh, the US Defense Department passed intelligence to Israel knowing Israel would pass it to Assad, to aid his defence against the CIA/Saudi backed Wahabbi rebels. Likewise most of the British & Anglo-American public support Assad, despite the constant torrent of lies from the liberal & neocon media – but they support Israel, too.

  10. @Simon in London

    As an Anglo, and more or less Zionist, I just want to say that if actual Anglos & Zionists had been united to destroy Syria, and create another stateless zone, it would have happened.

    I am not sure what your source of information is but Syria as a state is destroyed. Cities in ruins, infrastructure in ruins, half of the population gone and the rest trying to get away, industry destroyed. What more would have to be smashed for you to call it destruction?

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  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Simon in London

    By Anglo Zionist I think he specifically means neocons and neoliberalcons.

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  12. Renoman says:

    Vlad Putin, hero of the free World, the only one of the lot that isn’t a liar and a thief.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  13. Rehmat says:

    Three days ago when the US and Russia agreed to implement a ceasefire between the foreign insurgency and Syrian army, I knew US-Israel are losing war against Syrian president Bashar al-Assad based on Western military adventures in the past, such as, the Iraq-Iran, Bosnia-Serbia, and 34-day Israel-Hizbullah war in 2006.

    When I heard that ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra and rest of the throat-cutters armed, trained, and financed by the US, Israel, UK, France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc. have agreed to cease their war on Syrian people for next two weeks starting from Saturday – I smelled skunk.

    A few hours ago, I saw a skunk. CNN’s Pentagon mole, Barbara Starr (a Zionist Jew) claimed “Russia is using the ceasefire process to seize key Syrian territory.” In other words, Russia is taking-over Syrian territory that was seized earlier by ISIS aiming to Balkanize Syria for Israel.

    On February 11, Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev (Jewish family roots) warned the US and its regional “willing allies” that if they dared to invade Syrian territory, it would be the beginning of WWIII.

    Anyone familiar with western deception will tell you the US, Russia, UK, France, Turkey and Saudi Arabia cannot be trusted when it comes to nations that believe Israel has no right to exist.

    On February 11, Syria Jewish expert at Israel Lobby WINEP, Andrew Tabler, told Kathy Gilsanan editor of Jewish The Atlantic that if Syrian army recapture country’s largest and strategically important Aleppo province with the help of Iran, Hizbullah and Russia – it would be a clear defeat of the US and its regional allies.

    The blue-print of the five-year-old foreign insurgency is documented in Israeli diplomat Oded Yinon’s 1980 Yinon Plan that called for destabilization of Israel’s Arab neighboring countries on sectarian basis for the benefit of the Zionist entity.

    “Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon,” it said.

    • Replies: @Sherman
  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The author regrettably fails to mention the meddling by Israel. Israeli airstrikes in Syria and covert interference is typical behavior from a country that incessantly whines about their self-perceived persecution and how peace-loving they are. Putin’s meeting last year with Netanyahu put the kabash on their jewish chutzpah. The jews once again added to the elongation of war and played a role counter to a resolution of the conflict which could have done nothing but help them. Oy vey.

  15. @Regnum Nostrum

    The Syrian State still exists, controls territory with most of the population, and is gaining ground. Most of those who have left are on the rebel side. There has been huge destruction but the (normal) people and government of Syria have fought back heroically against the CIA/Saudi/Turkey-backed Islamist rebels, defeating what once looked like very long odds.

    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
  16. @Anonymous

    It would be nice if he’d use that terminology, then.

  17. @Simon in London

    The only thing that still exists is the geographical area that for some reason is still called Syria. Syria as a functioning state does not exist anymore the same way former Yugoslavia does not exist anymore. The territory which Assad still controls looks like an octopus with Damascus for its head. Those who left are not rebels but people not willing to die for any side in the conflict. There is no question that the government has fought heroically but heroism alone is sometimes not enough.

  18. Saker, if you want to find Nazi’s I suggest you look at Moscow. Accusing the Ukrainians of being Nazis is beyond silly.

    • Replies: @Wally
  19. @Renoman

    Putin is a liar and thief. He’s very well taken care of by the Russian Mafia.

  20. @Regnum Nostrum

    “Just because we do not hear any more that Assad has to go does not mean that he can stay.”

    Is that you God? That’s what you’ve decided?

    Self-important, eh?

    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
  21. @Simon in London

    I doubt very much if ‘most’ of the British support Israel – unless you mean the Establishment ( which will do the bidding of the Rothschilds, who own most of the land the IDF have so obligingly genocided the Palestinians for.)

    Attitudes in the US are increasingly hostile too – more and more know about the SSLiberty and of course the reality of Palestinian lives under the Zionist jackboot.

    The Evangelicals continue with their ‘end-times’ mania, but even there, the numbers are shrinking.

    A wildly inaccurate assessment, possibly as a result of online efforts by hasbara.

  22. RobinG says:

    “…zingoistic roots…” LOL – I love it!
    Rubio and Cruz = Zingos.
    Hillary, Rice and Power = The Zingettes.

    Anyway, here’s a good discussion on the truce —

    CrossTalk: Truce in Syria?

    • Replies: @KA
  23. @Drapetomaniac

    Thank you very much for a nice example of faulty logic and pseudo argument. No, I am not God and I am not self important. Why should I be? Just because I have an opinion that you don’t like? This is faulty logic. You are just one of many contributors who for a lack of ability to produce anything meaningful pollute this forum with primitive innuendos, outright insults and related verbal garbage.

  24. alexander says:

    You cannot underestimate the attitude of the American people in this too, Saker.

    The overwhelming vast majority of us, simply refused to countenance having our troops enter the fray of another utterly fraudulent “regime change” catastrophe.

    Not only did we not want our troops in there….we refused to spend one penny more , after being defrauded out of 17,000,000,000,000.00 already, by this totally bogus agenda foisted on us by the Neocons.

    We really have had enough of it ,Saker……No Mas.!

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  25. KA says:

    Thanks for that
    RT footage

  26. Wally says: • Website

    A fair assessment, Saker.

    Say it, say it again:

    Putin plays chess while Obama plays checkers.

  27. @sure thing

    In my experience your viewpoint (anti-Israel) is the minority in UK & USA, but is the majority in continental Europe – so the EU is fairly anti-Israel; though they can cooperate – EU & Israel joined with Turkey & USA to destroy Yugoslavia. There’s a large anti-Israel Left in the UK; a smaller anti-Israel Left in the USA, and very small anti-Israel Right in both countries. But most people are broadly favourably disposed to both. Most Americans haven’t heard of USS Liberty, and if they have they discount it, accepting the explanation most favourable to Israel.

  28. Sherman says:

    Hey Homer

    Glad you’re excited about Assad’s “victory” in Syria.

    This dude has killed thousands of times more Muslims than the Zionists ever have.

    I hope you and your goat go out and celebrate.


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  29. TheJester says:

    Putin will be remembered as the greatest diplomat since Bismark, recognizing that at present he doesn’t have much competition from the leadership of the EU or the Empire of the United States.

    Putin understands power and how to project it; that is, the ability to direct or influence the behavior of others. This means understanding the power possessed by one’s opponents, as well as its logical contrary, the power they lack.

    Putin has little competition because the leadership of the United States doesn’t understand how to competently project power, it assumes it. Power is always practical in its implementation. It is grounded in reality. Arrogant assumptions create a void between political action and effect … between intent and reality … between projection and consequence. Like the Byzantines, the United States is stumbling from one defeat to another based on mistaken assumptions about both themselves and their opponents.

    The EU is devoid of effective leadership. Indeed, it is hard to even get an intelligent discussion about power going. The European Union is run by feminized bureaucrats bent on creating a “Kumbaya Party” for the diverse cultures of the Union and then, with that complete, invite the world to join the party. Their basic assumption is that they have no opponents and, therefore, no need to project power. It should be clear that EU bureaucrats who see no political or cultural threats from importing millions of Muslims to live among them do not understand power and have a very, very loose connection with reality. The current leadership of the EU represent the antithesis of power. They do not know how to identify threats or how to defend themselves, much less project power. Therefore, the diverse peoples and cultures of the European Union are likely doomed. QED

    I guess Putin wins the accolade as the “greatest diplomat since Bismark” by default.

  30. Rehmat says:

    Hi Sharon – you just dropped your brain hanging between your legs again!

    No Muslim, including Assad have killed more Jews than your ancestors in Germany, Poland and Israel.

    Rabbi Wolf Gunther Plaut, former president of ‘Canadian Jewish Congress (CJC)’ and Chief Rabbi at Toronto’s Holy Blossom Temple, died in his 1990 book, ‘The Man Who Would Be Messiah‘, wrote that Frankist Jews were responsible for the Holocaust. The book’s ‘Forward’ was written by no other than Elie Weisel, the father of ‘holocaust culture’. Weisel did not disagree with Rabbi Plaut. The book is biography of Polish Rabbi Ya’akov Frank (1726-1791), who claimed being the biblical Messiah of Jews and thus part of Trinity.

    Frankist, also known as ‘Crypto-Jews’, are found in high places in both Christian and Muslim world – pretending to be Christians, Muslims, humanists, communists and atheists. Turkey has the highest population of ‘Crypto-Jews’ in the Muslim world. Some historians have claimed that these ‘Crypto-Jews’ were behind the Armenian genocide, in which nearly 1.5 million Christians were killed.

    Shalom – Sleep tight!

    • Replies: @Sherman
  31. annamaria says:

    The US “peacemakers” are still on the loose:
    ” US Government Sells \$680 Million In “Bunker Buster” Bombs To ISIS-Supplier Turkey”

  32. Wally says: • Website

    Yawn. Just more childish blabbering of ‘Oh the Nazis!’ silliness.
    Nazis this, Nazis that, simply laughable and wrong.

    It’s all based upon a false premise which does not withstand scrutiny.
    And that’s why free speech on the impossible ‘holocau\$t’ storyline is illegal in much of Europe and “that shitty little country”.


    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    Also note that there is not a single verifiable excavated mass grave that can actually be SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka) even though Jews claim to know exactly where these allegedly enormous mass graves are.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship.

  33. 5371 says:

    [Assad’s “victory” in Syria]

    Why the scare quotes, Sherm sweetie?

  34. Sherman says:

    Hi Homer,

    Very informative, thanks.

    I see you studied Jewish history at the same institution you studied nuclear engineering.


  35. KA says:

    People dont buy your kind of frayed and hackneyed logic anymore . They know how to connect the nodes despite those being separated by geography and time . They know how to find out ,how to view ,how to read and then how to be patient while watching vivid livid destructive montage that the Zionist have woven around humanity and then tear it apart.

    There would be no 911 without Israel.Their would be no Iraq war and no Libyan or Syrian or rise of IS without Israel.

    • Replies: @Sherman
  36. Sean says:

    Assad was desperate and he could raise the stakes to a choice between ISIS and him, which he did. Moreover the US’s main ally in the region, Jordan, was looking fragile, and Israel might have an war and cover to expel the West Bank Palestinians.

    Assad will not allow ISIS ( arguably his salvation,) to be crushed. He would be a fool. Assad will keep ISIS a powerful factor and use the threat of ISIS to keep the US out while he (or rather the Russian air force) destroy the civilian infrastructure in FSA rebel areas and force the educated Sunnis in Aleppo who are his main opponents to flee to Europe.

    William Lind is quite explicitly saying the Russians don’t care they are killing civilians. I think it is deliberate killing of civilians. Russia doesn’t care much about civilian casualties. In 4GW that is usually disastrous, but the Russian/Syrian offensives we are now witnessing look largely conventional. Strategically, they may be part of a Hama model approach to 4GW, which can work if it is over fast (and Russian tactics are based on speed). Tactically, Russia traditionally uses firepower massively, without regard for collateral damage, which is what they seem to be doing around Aleppo.

    Thus strikes the Russian murder machine, in other peoples’ countries.

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    , @KA
  37. Sherman says:

    “Their would be no Iraq war”

    “Their” should be “there”.

    It’s always informative to get a history lesson from someone who doesn’t know basic grammar.

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    , @tbraton
  38. lavoisier says:

    Very interesting essay. It does make one reflect on just what on Earth is happening over there.

  39. RobinG says:
    @sure thing

    “…..more and more know about the SSLiberty…..”

    Ernie Gallo: The U.S.S Liberty: what really happened? What did not?

    Yes, more people know about Israel’s unprovoked attack on the USS Liberty in 1967, but we need many more. Therefore we are launching a campaign. A strategy meeting will coincide with the National March on Washington DC to Support Palestine, March 20, 2016.

    LIBERTY from the LOBBY is a campaign to restore American political sovereignty. Our goal is to educate our fellow patriots on the damage that has been done to our nation in the interest of a foreign government, and to free our country from the malign influence of the Israel Lobby. We have been drawn into unnecessary Middle East wars, costing US blood and treasure, and compromising our ideals. Enough is enough.

  40. Da-Mith says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    I agree. The Zionists wont just pack up and go home. They will not rest till their sick objectives are realized.I fear there is more pain to come.

    • Replies: @KA
  41. annamaria says:

    “Assad will not allow ISIS ( arguably his salvation,) to be crushed.”
    Could you find other people that would like to join you in support of this statement?

    As for the “Russian murder machine,” have you heard about the 15-year-long-in-duration US/NATO involvement in the Middle Eastern wars that included the US-initiated illegal Iraq War? There are plenty of data on the maimed and murdered civilians there, like the Iraqi children shredded to bits by the US “smart” bombs. There is also a city of Fallujah suffering an inordinate number of birth defects that are most likely a result of depleted uranium sprinkled on Fallujah by the military of some country that is not Russian federation. Moreover, as a supporter of Israel, you put yourself into a glass house by reminding others about the large number of Palestinian children killed during the last “grass mowing” by the “most moral.”

    Now about the tragedy of Aleppo: “Information from a wide range of sources, including some of those the United States has been explicitly supporting, makes it clear that every armed anti-Assad organization unit in those provinces is engaged in a military structure controlled by Nusra militants. All of these rebel groups fight alongside the Nusra Front and coordinate their military activities with it.”
    And who are the Nusra Front? – “The al-Nusra Front, sometimes called al-Qaeda in Syria or al-Qaeda in the Levant, is a Sunni Islamist militia fighting against Syrian Government forces in the Syrian Civil War, with the aim of establishing an Islamist state in the country. It is the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda, and also operates in neighbouring Lebanon.”

    You quote Lind that Russia, “… uses firepower massively, without regard for collateral damage, which is what they seem to be doing around Aleppo.” What would be your strategy for Aleppo, considering the character of the Nusra Front? Perhaps you need to talk to Messrs. Cheney and Yoo about Gitmo and other exceptional strategies that the US have developed and used against Al Qaida, before castigating Russians for being too cruel to al-Qaeda in Syria. Mind that the RF has been supporting the legitimate government of the state of Syria against this: “As of early 2015, the group [Nusra Front] became one of the major components of the powerful jihadist joint operations room named Army of Conquest which took over large territories in Northern Syria.”

  42. KA says:

    No they won’t. They are perfectly perched up on the top floor balcony. They have managed to make Israeli goal as American . They have provided not only the maps and the game plan but the words and the arguments.

    This is the last paragraph from today’s NYT – letter on opinion page showcased as some kind of distilled and divined wisdom meant to solve a human tragedy .
    But the solution is the same that Yoded Yinon and PNAC offered decades earlier . | SUNDAY DIALOGUE

    “Fixing the Iraq Mess
    FEB. 27, 2016
    Iraq’s central government is beholden to Iran and lacks legitimacy because it cannot protect all its people, create jobs or deliver basic services. Yet it provides resources to the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad and allows more than 50 Shiite militias to operate with impunity, despite evidence that they routinely engage in ethnic cleansing and extrajudicial killings. Until this changes, partition will remain an attractive option no matter the complexities of implementation.”

    After failing to splinter Syria, they want to splinter Iraq so that splintering becomes the new instruments in the war against everything Arab or Islam or against resistance to Israeli hegemony.

  43. RobinG says:
    @sure thing


    “A 2004 transcript of an Israeli military tape published in the Jerusalem Post supports the unanimous position of the survivors and many high-ranking US officers that Israeli forces knew the USS Liberty was an American ship, as they attempted to sink it.”

    Jerusalem Post confirms Israel knew USS Liberty was American
    Read more:

  44. KA says:

    There is a an air of desperation enveloping Tel Aviv . Language is at work to ridicule any hint that Israel is where ISIS
    is .

    “”Russian intervention has tilted the scales, and Jerusalem is concerned of a regime victory, which would be victory for Iran as well. To prevent that, Israeli officials believe West must intervene in favor of moderate rebels.

    read more:”

    That means a Hillary or Rubio victory will reopen the front of this wars after Jan 2017.

    • Replies: @Sean
  45. Ben_C says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    Just because we do not hear any more that Assad has to go does not mean that he can stay.


    I thought this entire “conflict” was about spreading so-called “democracy”

    Why not let the Syrian people decide this question?

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Jeff Davis
  46. annamaria says:

    The Oded Yinon Plan (and its off-shoot PNAC) did not factor in any Syrian people into the project of redesigning the Middle East to the Zionists’ specifications.

  47. tbraton says:

    “It’s always informative to get a history lesson from someone who doesn’t know basic grammar.”

    Yes, it’s so difficult to understand what he meant when he used “their’ instead of “there.” Personally, I would rather get advice from someone who knows history instead of a person who has impeccable grammar. You remind of the old Washington Senators’ catcher Moe Berg who was multilingual but had a batting average in the low .200’s. The line which I read more than once growing up in D.C. was that “Moe Berg could speak 6 languages but couldn’t hit in any of them.”

  48. KA says:

    “Speaking today ahead of a cabinet meeting, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insisted that Israel “welcomes” the ongoing Syrian ceasefire in theory, but insists that the international community recognize that any peace deal ending the Syrian Civil War has to comply with Israel’s needs.

    Israeli officials also suggested they might attack Syria some more to prevent arms transfers to Hezbollah, and also to keep the Syrian Golan from becoming a “terrorist front.” Ironically, Israel appeared very comfortable when the Syrian Golan was under al-Qaeda control, and is only objecting to the notion the Syrian government might regain control of it.”

  49. marwan says:

    Muslim nanny beheads 4 year old Russian toddler , galavants thru the streets of Moscow screaming allahu akbar while waving the severed head furiously .

  50. Maldivi says:

    I think that 10 to 15 Stingers (or similar, more advanced devices) would end Russian “flying force” in Syria. Interestingly, not a single one has been supplied to rebels. It was probably crazy Putin that was fiddling with his fingers over nuclear buttons, not Saudis or Erdogan. Nevertheless, this should be a very important message for everyone to think many times over before choosing US as an ally!

  51. I learned of this sad story from watching RT News, a reliable and good source of news in my opinion. Had I first learned of it from the link that you posted I probably wouldn’t have bothered to read it (I haven’t) and if I had would likely not have believed it. Daily Mail has so much crap, nonsense and straight out lies I cannot understand why people bother to read it let alone buy it.

    That said, the woman who did this is a horrible and crazy person who would probably be better off dead rather than have the future she now will face. I don’t think she’s any worse morally than those who “mow the lawn” though or less sane.

  52. Sean says:

    Israel could expel the West Bank Palestinians (it remaining problem) during an ISIS takeover of Jordan. Israel is largely uninterested in uninterested in Assad.

    The Russians have killed more Syrians than ISIS, and so has Assad.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @bunga
    , @annamaria
  53. annamaria says:

    Could you be on point?
    1. The duration of involvement of the US/EU into the civil war in Syria – almost 5 years.
    2. The duration of involvement of Russian federation into the civil war (on legal invitation of the Syrian government) – almost 5 months.
    May I suggest that you are so disappointed with the slowing down of implementation of Oded Yinon (PNAC) Plan that all you can see is the damage that the Russians have inflicted on the Plan. Otherwise, why is this sudden concern about the suffering Syrians? Why don’t you look at the origin of the current Middle East mess (actually, a slaughter) :

    • Replies: @Sean
  54. bunga says:

    I agree with you. But you are not the person to look up to for information on Israeli state of mind. Israeli leader or spokesman will be a better source. So I don’t agree with you .

    • Replies: @Sean
  55. Sean says:
    What should be done: Speaking as an Israeli now, given that real peace is out of reach for a long, long time to come, there seem to be two courses. The first would be for my country to complete the wall it has built around the West Bank in such a way as to get rid as of many Palestinians, specifically including most of those who live in East Jerusalem, as possible. That done, it should tell the settlers it is withdrawing and take as many of them as possible along. If, after that, the Palestinians in the West Bank still cause trouble, then Israel should deal with them as it dealt with Gaza in 2014. This has long been my own position; however, unless pressure is applied form outside it is very unlikely to happen.

    The second would be to hope for the collapse of the Hashemite Kingdom and its occupation by Daesh or some similar organization. That would create an opportunity to repeat the events of 1948 and throw the Palestinians of the West Bank across the River Jordan. This is the “solution” a great many Israelis secretly favor. And the longer the present uprising lasts, the larger their number will grow.

    Israel’s remaining problem is Palestinian in the West Bank.

  56. Sean says:

    You are not seriously suggesting, are you, that the Arab spring was all the US and Israel. There was a drought, and the example of Libya. Moreover the Youth Bulge demographics of the region had been long predicted to make it ripe for revolution.

    Syrians are mainly Sunni and judging by Assad’s allies being Lebanese Shia, Iranian Shia, and Russia, the educated Sunni have had enough of being told what to do by Assad’s tiny Alawite minority. Assad is the author of his own misfortunes, he cut many subsidies to the population because he trusted his security services could keep the people cowed, but they couldn’t. There were demonstrations which Assad’s 80% Alawite officered army opened fire on.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  57. annamaria says:
    The ziocons’ dilemma, as formulated by the Wall Street Journal:
    “Mr. Obama has been reluctant to allow either the U.S. or its regional partners to supply the rebels with advanced ground-to-air antiaircraft weapons to fend off [Russian] airstrikes. While introducing that sort of system could be a game-changer, any decision to help the rebels directly go after Russian soldiers or destroy Russian airplanes could mark a dramatic escalation…Russia’s bombing campaign in Syria, launched last fall, has infuriated the CIA in particular because the strikes have aggressively targeted relatively moderate rebels it has backed with military supplies, including antitank missiles, U.S. officials say.”
    In short, the PNAC’s megalomaniac project (an elaboration of the Yinon Plan) has become endangered. Hence the sudden ziocons’ interest towards the casualties of the Syrian civil war: it was OK for Syrians to die for 5 years while the CIA was arming the “relatively moderate rebels with military supplies, including antitank missile,” but it was not OK for the legitimate Syrian government to protect its sovereignty and to invite Russian federation to fight ISIS. Take a note that the Kagans family of professional warmongers has officially joined the H. Clinton camp.

  58. annamaria says:

    My comment was specifically about the time frame of the US’ versus RF’ involvement into Syrian affairs and about your interesting statement, “The Russians have killed more Syrians than ISIS.” Would you use the same assessment for the US? Who are those “relatively moderate rebels” that the Wall Street Journal (and the CIA) are so much concerned about? Perhaps the ethnic/country stat of the “relatively moderate rebels”could clarify your statement.

  59. annamaria says:

    A beautiful summary by a commenter on Sic Temper Tyrannis, the most reliable site re military issues of the Middle Eastern conflicts.
    Bill Herschel said:
    “I know the horse is dead, but this is the key comparison:
    “The surge was developed under the working title “The New Way Forward” and was announced in January 2007 by Bush during a television speech. Bush ordered the deployment of more than 20,000 soldiers into Iraq (five additional brigades), and sent the majority of them into Baghdad. He also extended the tour of most of the Army troops in country and some of the Marines already in the Anbar Province area. The President described the overall objective as establishing a “…unified, democratic federal Iraq that can govern itself, defend itself, and sustain itself, and is an ally in the War on Terror.” The major element of the strategy was a change in focus for the US military “to help Iraqis clear and secure neighborhoods, to help them protect the local population, and to help ensure that the Iraqi forces left behind are capable of providing the security”. The President stated that the surge would then provide the time and conditions conducive to reconciliation between communities.”
    ~5,000 Russian troops in Syria since September 30 changing the entire outcome of the war and paving the way for a peaceful resolution, all under the auspices of the United Nations.”

    Cannot wait to hear from the ziocon “humanitarians” accusing RF of bad treatment of the “relatively moderate rebels” (the WSJ).

    • Replies: @RobinG
  60. RobinG says:

    Russian perseverance is paying off.

    “It seems that on the 12th February, the Russians were able to separate the White House from the neo-conservatives and liberal hawks who support Turkey and the jihadists. Sergey Lavrov and John Kerry agreed to create two work groups, which they co-preside, which relegates the UNO to the role of simple clerk [4]. In other terms, Jeffrey Feltman, who has been using his functions as United Nations number 2 to sabotage all efforts for peace over the last three and a half years, has now been benched [5]. The result ? In only 10 days, Russia and the United States have been able to conclude the conditions for a cessation of hostilities which has been awaiting finalisation since 2012 [6].”
    Moscow, a rampart against the jihadists
    by Thierry Meyssan

    • Replies: @5371
  61. 5371 says:

    What a world we live in when neocon vermin like Feltman can calmly step into place at the UN without facing resistance or even interest.

  62. annamaria says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    “…premature celebration…”
    Correct. The ziocons’ irritation over peaceful solution in Syria is palpable: “No Political Deal Likely in Syria, Despite Shaky Cease-Fire: An unstable, de facto partition of the country is the more probable scenario”

  63. DaveE says:

    And a couple of “smart bombs” that are a lot smarter than zionists. Quite impressive watching Russia take out al Big Daddy’s zio-thugs from 1200 miles away. The ones that escaped run crying and screaming back to mommy-Israel.

  64. annamaria says:

    Interesting: by Pepe Escobar

    “Frau Merkel ultimately would have to be the only EU leader to confront Erdogan and read him the riot act. It’s not only a matter of politely requesting Ankara to reduce refugee numbers. It’s to order him to do so; question him on why he released them en masse in the first place last year; and withhold any future financial rescue package, including the building of refugee camps inside Syrian territory….
    Meanwhile, there’s no concerted EU refugee policy to be seen… No EU political leader will confront the responsibility of NATO’s wars (with petrodollar GCC support) crafting the whole crisis. The absolute majority of refugees are Syrians, Afghans and Africans who depart the continent via NATO-destroyed Libya.
    Polls consistently show that a majority of EU citizens don’t want to welcome refugees anymore… The EU citizens who were never consulted on the issue of refugees and who are constantly asked to make sacrifices because ‘there is no money’ understandably do not accept this moral discourse anymore.
    The same people who encouraged ‘humanitarian’ interventions and ‘support’ for armed insurrections abroad, that have led to perpetual wars, generating a constant flow of refugees, are now demanding that the population of our countries ‘welcome the refugees’. They first generate chaos there, then they applaud chaos here. Well, that’s the whole logic of the Empire of Chaos in a nutshell.”

  65. @Ben_C

    I thought this entire “conflict” was about spreading so-called “democracy”…

    I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Dirt cheap.

  66. Hrw-500 says:

    A bit off-topic, I spotted this blog post from Mike Smith’s political commentary.
    In case if it’ll be deleted, it’s archived at

  67. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This article couldn’t have been further away from the truth.

    The treaty will give time to the mercenary forces in Syria, such as ISIS, time to recuperate, strengthen the territories they occupy and restart their offensive as soon as they have regained new equipment and men from NATO. The only good thing is that Assad continues his offensive toward ISIS despite the treaty.

    So why did the Russians signed a treaty, just when they had begun obliterating the terrorist forces in Syria? It’s simple; the Greek government surrendered Aegean’s control to NATO a few weeks ago. The entire Aegean sea is now NATO-occupied. That way, the Russian fleet that is in Syria cannot return anymore to their bases, in the Black Sea. It’s the first time since the 19th century that the Aegean is closed to the Russians. The safe passage of their war ships lays now entirely into NATO’s operational responsibility.

    Just look at the timing of both Aegean’s surrendering to NATO, and the signing of the treaty.

    • Replies: @tbraton
  68. tbraton says:

    “So why did the Russians signed a treaty, just when they had begun obliterating the terrorist forces in Syria? It’s simple; the Greek government surrendered Aegean’s control to NATO a few weeks ago. The entire Aegean sea is now NATO-occupied. That way, the Russian fleet that is in Syria cannot return anymore to their bases, in the Black Sea. It’s the first time since the 19th century that the Aegean is closed to the Russians. The safe passage of their war ships lays now entirely into NATO’s operational responsibility.”

    I wonder why John with the many numbers following his name would use his first post on to post complete, nonsensical bullshit? The NATO mission in the Aegean is quite specific and quite limited: ” the North Atlantic Treaty Organization‘s mission to deter migrants from traversing the Aegean Sea to reach the European Union.” The WS Journal had an article on this about a few weeks ago, and here is what it said:

    “Pushed by Germany, the alliance agreed this month to task one of its standing maritime forces to monitor migrants trying to cross the Aegean Sea, the first time NATO has waded into one of Europe’s largest political and humanitarian challenges. NATO officials hope the mission will dissuade people from trying to make the dangerous crossing.

    Since it has been approved, there have been between two and five ships operating in the Aegean under the mission, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said.

    At a news conference, Mr. Stoltenberg said the ships are conducting the monitoring mission, but the alliance is trying to agree on an operational plan to expand the initial mission, though he provided few details. “[NATO vessels] already monitor the situation,” he said. “And they have the mandate to share that with NATO allies. But we would like to do more.”

    Greek and Turkish officials have clashed over precisely where the NATO ships operate and if they will be allowed to patrol in the two countries territorial waters. At the time of initial agreement earlier this month, NATO officials had said Greek ships in the mission wouldn’t enter Turkish waters and Turkish vessels wouldn’t enter Greek waters, though the rest of the NATO’s task force could operate throughout the Aegean.”

    There is nothing in the article lending any support whatsoever to your position that the NATO fleet in the Aegean will affect the Russian ships in any way. Can you link to any article to support your nonsense? Or should we simply conclude that you are blowing smoke?

    BTW John with the many numbers, don’t you think any attempt by the U.S. (which is NATO, after all) to limit the free passage of Russian ships between Syria and Russia via the Black Sea would be totally inconsistent with its position standing for freedom of the seas in the South China Sea?

    • Replies: @John1656346
  69. @tbraton

    Just use your common sense, tbraton with no numbers, and stop believing everything you read, or demanding an article for everything.

    First of all Jans Stoltenberg, the secretary general of NATO, has said that “This is not about stopping or pushing back refugee boats” and that NATO’s German-led Aegean force “will be tasked to conduct reconnaissance, monitoring and surveillance of the illegal crossings in the Aegean Sea in cooperation with relevant authorities”. Also the Greek State Broadcaster has mentioned that a total of 57 ships will participate in the NATO Force. So NATO just took over the operational responsibility of the Aegean Sea just for “reconnaissance, monitoring and surveillance”? Of course not.

    The real reason is the “Russian aggression” as the US government likes to call it. Need proof? See the quadrupling of the “European Reassurance Initiative” budget from \$800 million to \$3.4 billion until 2017. But let’s hear the US defense secretary, who can say these things better than me:

    “We are reinforcing our posture in Europe to support our NATO allies in the face of Russia’s aggression. In Pentagon parlance, this is called the European Reassurance Initiative and after requesting about \$800 million for last year, this year we’re more than quadrupling it for a total of \$3.4 billion in 2017.”

    “That will fund a lot of things: more rotational U.S. forces in Europe, more training and exercising with our allies, more preposition and war-fighting gear and infrastructure improvements to support all this.”

    “And when combined with U.S. forces already in and assigned to Europe — which are also substantial — all of this together by the end of 2017 will let us rapidly form a highly capable combined arms ground force that can respond across that theater, if necessary.”

    Combine these facts with the recent NATO dogma of denationalizing the armed forces of the member states, like they have already done in Poland, Finland, Romania, the Baltic states and recently with Bulgaria’s air space and Greece’s control over the Aegean and what do you get? The biggest offensive military force that has ever been created in Europe. A US-European force that will be commanded by a single center: NATO’s headquarters. And all these will be ready by the end of 2017.

    So if NATO and the US were planning an invasion to Russia what would they do? Exactly what they’re doing right now.

    However, this doesn’t mean that we’ll see a Hitler-like invasion of Russia. The methods have changed nowadays. Today it’s more possible that we’ll see “pockets of instability”, like Ukraine, in Russian borders in order to make an excuse for NATO’s “humanitarian aid”.

  70. tbraton says:

    Very interesting. I see that John1656436 has posted a follow-up message to an earlier post by John1656435. In other words, the same name increased by one digit, a “6” instead of a “5” at the end. Well, I guess that explains why there is a long string of numbers after the common name “John.” I guess that makes it harder to track down prior posts by this idiot, since each name has a history of exactly one post on I would just note, John with all the numbers, that you say nothing about stopping the Russian ships, which was the thrust of your prior message, a clear act of war. That’s almost the same as the blockage of the straits to Russian ships by Turkey that kiza was talking about a few months back, something that clearly hasn’t occurred, because it would lead almost immediately to WWIII.

  71. First I changed my username because I forgot the email I had entered. But I like your conspiracy thinking. The numbers must mean something, right?

    Secondly, I devoted 400 words to explain to you why the US and NATO are preparing to go to war with Russia and that’s how the takeover of Aegean fits in. But it must be quite complicated for you to understand it. So you should stay in the WSJ analyses. And also to The Saker’s articles.

    Third, I like your strategy of trying to prove my point false by equating it to something that was said by somebody else that proved to be wrong. Goebbels would be proud of you.

  72. “With each passing day the Russian task force in Syria will become more powerful”. Spot-on Saker! And just today we read that Putin ordered Russian military pullout from Syria.

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