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The past week has been quite intense in Russia – lots of interesting developments took place, and today I will mention three:

  1. Putin wrote a very interesting essay on the history of Russia and the Ukraine, which he followed up with a very interesting interview.
  2. Russia just concluded final tests for truly formidable weapons systems like the S-500 and the Mach 8 hypersonic missile Zircon.
  3. In its yearly aviation salon MAKS, Russia has just presented a 5th generation, single engine light multi-functional fighter the Su-75 “Checkmate”

These are all truly huge developments for Russia which we need to look into separately.

Putin’s history of Russia and the Ukraine

First, I highly recommend that you take the time to read the full article here and the full interview here (there is no point for me to use the space here to pepper you with excerpts), especially if you are not well-acquainted with Russian history or live in Zone A. Furthermore, being the “Putin groupie and fanboy” which I so-notoriously am (guilty as charged!), I won’t surprise anybody by saying that I agree with almost every word Putin wrote or spoke. And, frankly, all the facts Putin lists are really common knowledge for most people (unless they have been brainwashed by US/Ukronazi propaganda) and there is really no point for me to repeat “yes, this is true” and “yes, he is right” over and over again.

So all I propose to do next is to just to add a few comments of mine about this article+interview (I will assume that readers will have read them both; if not, I suggest completely skipping this section),

  1. First, as I just said, there is absolutely nothing new in this article for educated people. But that is not Putin’s target audience anyway. Putin’s target audience are the younger generations (in the Ukraine, the West and even, alas, Russia proper!) who know very little, if anything, about history. And while this is also true of Russia, this is especially true in the Ukraine where people have been massively brainwashed since 1917 (as Putin explains this very well in his article).
  2. The real reason why this article caused such a stir in Russia and total hysterics amongst the Ukronazi nutcases (who, again, are now predicting an imminent Russian invasion, what else?) is that while these facts were known for decades, but considered very politically incorrect to mention them lest the Ukrainians get offended: from the late 80s and until now, the Ukronazis taught a very different version of history, which includes coming from the Sumerian civilization, building the pyramids in Egypt, digging the Black Sea, founding the ancient Aryan civilization, etc. Even more crucially, the official Ukronazi narrative claims that Russians and Ukrainians are completely different people (Ukies are true, pure, Aryans while Russians are Ugro-Altaic Mongols). So what Putin did with this article is simply to (finally!) proclaim that the emperor is naked and the clueless Ukies ignorant of their own history.
  3. This article also marks a rather dramatic change of tone from the Kremlin. In the past the Kremlin always tried to maintain a polite and respectful attitude towards the Ukies and their Wakanda-like delusions about history. Now this is over, Russia has finally and openly decided to declare to the Ukies (and the rest of the world!) that their founding myths are based on precious *nothing* and that Russia is done treating this utter nonsense as if it has any factual basis in the adult world.

I would like to offer one more commentary on Putin’s statements.

I believe that there has been a “war of words” waged by the Ukrainian nationalists against the Russians for many decades (I remember listening to the Ukie service of RL/RFE and I was always amazed at the completely open hatred – bordering on racist bigotry – of the Ukie propaganda; even when compared to all the other national minority services of RL/RFE which, I assure you, included a lot of bone fide nutcases in many of its services) and the Russian side was mostly quiet and demure lest the Ukies get offended. That is now over, in this war of words Russia will now use her verbal ammunition to debunk the Ukronazi pseudo-historical fairy tales. I very much welcome that!

Finally, I believe that the Kremlin is already working on “post-Ze” options. Frankly, this also comes not a second too soon! The Ukraine has been in free fall for years already, but even by Ukie standards the chaos and tensions which are taking place now have grown into full scale hysterics which is both truly amazing and very concerning (I will spare you all the details now, I have enough such articles already posted, but I will probably have to revisit this slow agony in the near future). I get the feeling that the Kremlin expects a truly bona fide Nazis leader to come to power by one way or another after “Ze” (Note: while “Ze” did end up catering to the Ukronazis, he himself is most definitely not “the real thing” – he only pretends). Maybe a “President Avakov” next (no Nazi either, by the way, just a man very skilled at using Nazis)?

The bottom line is this: the final collapse of the Ukraine is what the Kremlin is now openly waiting for next. And even if “Biden” wants to force “Ze” to abide by the Minsk Agreements, this will mean the end for “Ze” and a return to full/total power of the Ukronazis. Why? There are roughly three forces in the Ukraine right now, at least apparently:

  1. The regime in power (“Ze” and his gang)
  2. The opposition (mostly the OPZZh party)
  3. The real hardcore Nazis (you can think of them as the Ukie version of the Hutu “Interahamwe” in Rwanda

The regime is in deep agony and simply not viable.

The opposition is divided, often politically discredited and lacks both a clear leader and a clear vision.

In sharp contrast, the Ukronazis gang is small, but very well organized, very well funded and very well led (most of the “street level” Ukronazi leaders are imbeciles like Liashko or, better, Tiagnibok, but Avakov is no idiot, he is good at working with his US patrons and with the truly crazy folks like Andrei Biletskii or Aleksei Danilov.

True, in the long term the political prospects of the opposition look pretty good, as they have a few (very few?) pretty sharp leaders, and their program recommends better relations with Russia, something truly vital (literally!) for the Ukraine. But I don’t see the opposition having the strength to take on the Ukronazis just yet: first “Ze” needs to go, the Ukronazis need to seize full control of power again, and then come up with some truly crazy shit (that all Nazis are good for, as history has shown) which will break-up the Ukraine into various successor states. Only at that point will the current opposition have good political chances in the eastern and southern parts of the Ukraine. But the current situation is too complex and too fluid to take anybody’s guesses and predictions too seriously. Only time will truly show.

The S-500 and Zircon weapons systems have now been fully tested

The quick way to summarize this development is to say that both the S-500 and the Zircon have no comparable competitors anywhere in the world, not even vaguely comparable ones. Both the S-500 and the Zircon missiles are way, waaaay ahead of any other weapons system in their categories. Even better, the Empire has nothing, and really I mean absolutely nothing, it could oppose to either one of these weapons systems. And with not too much hyperbole, it would be fair to say that, once fully deployed, the S-500 will make most of the US/NATO aviation and tactical/operational and even some strategic missiles completely obsolete. As for the Zircon, it does the same thing to the USN’s surface fleet. To say that this is huge would be an understatement, especially since US/NATO force planners must now decide what to do about this, and that is no small task considering that is now becoming obvious that US/NATO force planners made some truly major mistakes in their assumptions about what the modern 21st century battlefield will really look like. Force planning deals with many immense technological and bureaucratic inertia and to “simply change course” is not “simple” at all: it typically takes decades!

I have no doubt that the US MIC propaganda machine will now talk a lot about US ‘hypersonic’ weapons and about 6th generation super-dooper aircraft. But let’s be honest here: the US hypersonic weapons program is in its infancy (at best) and is struggling. As for the USAF, it will take it many years to at least reduce the long list of major problems of the F-35, and even that is not a real solution: while I am sure that, given enough time, the USAF/USN will find a way to use this aircraft effectively (at least against non-peer adversaries), the only real solution to this ugly mess is to not only quickly revive the F-15 (in its F-15X form, which looks promising), but also to embark on the development of a 5++ generation aircraft while at the same time working on a real, truly 6th gen, successor (in the good sense of the word) for the F-35. This being said, if the F-35 proves anything, it is that the Pentagon and the US MIC are corrupt beyond what any words could express (from a purely corruption point of view the F-35 was a stunning success!) and this begs the question: can these guys even develop a halfway decent or even a good aircraft?! Or has the country which developed the superb F-16, A-10. 747 or the F-15 lost its ability to produce truly superb aircraft? I don’t know.

What do you think?

The brand new 5th generation single-engine Su-75 “Checkmate”

This is really THE news of the day! This is nothing short of earth-shattering. Let’s begin with a list of factoids I tried to collect from different sources: (since all this info was only unveiled a few hours ago, there might still be mistakes, so caveat emptor!)

  • Name: Sukhoi Su-75 “Checkmate”
  • High commonality with Su-57
  • Single engine (crucial!)
  • Top speed 2400 km/h (about 1500mph or 1300 knots or just under Mach 2)
  • Thrust vectoring engines
  • 30M dollars typical cost
  • 5,5 years development only (using supercomputers)
  • 1500km combat range
  • STOL (shorter than Su-57’s about 400m)
  • Max load: 7.5 tons
  • Service Ceiling just under 17km
  • Max load: 8+ G
  • Ferry range 3000km+ (on internal fuel)
  • Low RCS
  • Advanced avionics and all glass cockpit
  • The Belka N036 AFAR antenna with a detection range of 350-400km
  • Long, medium and short range weapons for any targets
  • Can engage 6 targets (in air, land, water and air defenses) simultaneously
  • Will feature the long-range 30P6 air to air missile (range: about 160km)
  • AI support and guidance
  • Five air-to-air missiles carried internally
  • Onboard advanced EW defenses
  • The Su-75 has a cannon carried inside its internal sections
  • There will be a pilotless version of the Su-75 (automated and remote-controlled)
  • The Su-75 has advanced datalinks allowing it to operate together with other aircraft or drones
  • Supercruise (not sure? Probably only in a future engine)
  • The aircraft is “open architecture” (so it can be adapted to specific needs)
  • Sukhoi expects to sell about 300 Su-75 in the next 15 years or so
  • The Su-75 can be adapted for naval carrier use
  • The target clients are the both the RAF and foreign clients (but only export versions for foreign clients).
  • Its first flight is scheduled for 2023 and adoption by the RAF is, assuming a contract is confirmed, set for 2025.
  • Price: 25-30 million dollars depending on specific requirements

What do I make of these characteristics? Here are some of my thoughts (keep in mind that while I did some work with the Swiss Air Force, I am not an aerospace engineer, so take all I say with at least a pound or two of salt and wait for real experts to pitch in!).

First, this is a much needed aircraft for Russia which currently does not have modern single engine combat aircraft. Currently, the “core” aircraft of the (RAF) are all big twin engines: Su-30SM, Su-35, Su-34, .etc. Even the much smaller “F-16 counterpart” has two engines. Even the (comparatively) smaller MiG-35 is a twin engine. These are all superb aircraft, but a single-engine aircraft would be much cheaper, not only to purchase, but even more so to maintain.

Second, Russia’s main weakness when compared to the US/NATO is primarily quantitative: while they are much inferior, US/NATO aircraft are produced in huge numbers the Russian industrial base and finances cannot match, at least not by producing very advanced but also very expensive aircraft a la Su-35S. The RAF needs many cheap but highly effective combat aircraft and the Su-75 might well be “the” dream machine for Russia.

Third, a single-engine 5th generation aircraft for about 30 million dollars is an extremely attractive option, especially with its open architecture. Especially when its only competitor is the truly pathetic F-35 (which is really not much of a 5th gen aircraft, at least for the foreseeable future (especially since it has fundamentally flawed core-design issues, read all about it here).

By the way, the Russians are officially denying that they wanted to make a “Russian response” to the F-35. They say that the F-35 and the Su-75 are in completely different categories and when you look at such parameters are speed, maneuverability, max load or, especially, price, you can see that the Russians are fundamentally correct: it’s not “just” that the Su-75 is a much superior aircraft, it is really in a completely different “punching weight” category.

Fourth, just like a truly effective air defense system requires different weapons systems all integrated into a single network and working together, so does tactical/operational aviation. These are the main categories the RAF needs to fill: CAS aircraft (Su-25M), strike aircraft (Su-24M and Su-34), air superiority and interceptors (Su-30SM, Su-35S), advanced long-range interceptors (MiG-31BM) and a cheap, ubiquitous and very capable “dogfighter” for the frontline aviation which can deal with enemy aircraft while also supporting the ground forces. Russian did built some very good single fighters in the past, including the MiG-23 (criticized in the West, but loved by Russian pilots) and, arguably, the most successful fighter ever built, the MiG-21. So Russians know how to do that, they just have not done that in way too many years and the appearance of the Su-75 comes “not a second too late” for the Russian military which will finally have a truly “full-spectrum” of modern, indigenously built, combat aircraft.

Fifth, not only does the Su-75 have a lot of common systems with the Su-57, but it appears that the Russians are working on combining their long-rage radars (MiG-31BM, Su-57 and A-50M) with combat drones (like the Orion and the large S-70) with either “silent” (non-radiating aircraft) and advanced, but still smaller and cheaper aircraft, like the Su-75. Combine that with the most advanced air defense network on the planet, and you will see why US/NATO advocates are severely butthurt by all this 🙂

Here is a good image showing how similar the Su-75 and Su-57 are externally:

There were some speculations that the Russians were working on a successor for their Yak-141 VSTOL combat aircraft (which the US Americans tried to copy as a basis for their F-35 and miserably failed), but the Russians have appeared to be content with “only” STOL capabilities. Considering the catastrophic failure of the F-35B (and the non-deployment of the Yak-141) might be the wiser choice. If the Su-75 ever makes it on a carrier of some kind, short catapult-assisted take-offs is probably the wiser solution.

One last thing: for the first time in decades the Russians have (finally!) managed to keep things really hush-hush and there were almost zero leaks about the Su-75, and most of those which did happen were carefully orchestrated by the Russian authorities. I am not talking about the mass media like Argumenty i Fakty or Popular Mechanics. Even the specialized press had only a few good guesses about what this “soon to be unveiled and totally new 5th gen fighter” would look like. There were a few partial photos, some drawings, a few partial photos, all augmented by educated guesses. Not only that, but there is still a lot we don’t know, including on some really important topics like the Su-75 radar and longest range air-to-air missiles.


This has been a long and important week for Russia which, I think, illustrates a few important things:

  • The Russians have clearly lost lost their very last illusions about the Nazi-occupied Ukraine and are now actively preparing the “post-Ze” period.
  • Putin feels the popular pressure and is embarking on a PR campaign in preparation for the next elections.
  • The Russian MIC is doing better than ever and the recent Russian high-tech successes show that Russia has gone into what they call a “high-quality separation” (качественный отрыв) from the West or Asia.

All in all, this is all good news.

• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: American Military, NATO, Russia, Ukraine 
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  1. AKAHorace says:

    In the whole essay by Putin there is no mention at all of the starvation by Stalin of the Ukrainians in the Holodmor. Even if everything else he says is right (possible, I am don’t know much about the history of the Ukraine), don’t you think that he should have addressed this question ? There are arguments that the Russians suffered as much or more than the Ukrainians, but ignoring this question could make long term reconciliation difficult. From what I have read, the famine explains much of the later collaboration with the Nazis.

    Also, I am not sure if this is Putin or his translator, but referring to the Ukraine as “little Russians” may be historically correct, but is it helpful ?

  2. Anonymous[623] • Disclaimer says:

    The Saker haters in 3…2…1… GO….

  3. Vasilios says:

    The plane sure does look great; but can they produce the I-30 Engine on time and up to spec in consistent numbers? If so, this looks like a 5th gen F-16 equivalent that will be unmatched in its role (and 1/3 the price of an F-35). Oh, and per Martyanov it does have supercruise:

    “UPDATE: full presentation and yes, it has it all: supercruise, super-maneuverability, AESA, AI elements, full netcentricity, drones’ control, etc. (in Russian). All included. ”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Paul Greenwood
  4. Vasilios says:

    Another huge win for the 75, it has the same flight range as the F-35 has with external tanks using merely internal: 1500 mi (2800 km). The effin 35 has less than half that range with only internal tanks (770 mi). And of course it is only with internal tanks that the plane maintains its stealth profiles.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  5. While I’m enamored by the Russian s-400 and s-500 I’ve grown weary in hearing about systems that are never put to the test. We always hear about how the Russians are “holding back” from revealing their hand all the while Israeli jets pound Syria mercilessly. Whats up with that? Either put up or shut up

  6. @AKAHorace

    Ukrainians were Nazis under Bandera –they got what they deserved in spades —-long live Zhukov.

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  7. NavyBrat says:

    Really? To tout the military hardware successes of the Ruskies is to ignore that they can’t make reliable tootsie rolls. Previous planes were shoddy, at best, and prone to being held together with baling wire and rubber bands! That’s when they could reliably fly at all! Nice try comrade.

    • LOL: Alfred, Kramer
  8. Russia should just ignore Ukraine. Russia does not need Ukraine.
    Concerning aircraft in the war Quantity beats Quality every time. So Russia has to build a lot of them.

    • Agree: Joe Wong, Graham Seibert
  9. bayviking says:

    It is perfectly reasonable to view Russia’s current developments as purely defensive. Their behavior has evolved considerably between Stalin and Putin, especially during Gorbachev’s rule. Neighboring States are still afraid of Russian intervention and brutal domination. But, it isn’t really much different than the way the USA has treated the Western Hemisphere.

    The US military industrial complex demands an enemy to remain profitable and Russia and China fit that bill, each in their own way. Perpetual war with hi-tech expensive weapons is not sustainable on terrorist enemies alone. Lets hope a bill introduced in the Senate by the odd combination of Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) who are supporting the National Security Powers Act gains some much needed traction.

  10. Even better, the Empire has nothing, and really I mean absolutely nothing, it could oppose to either one of these weapons systems.

    The cost of US weapons systems is inflated 100 times in order to enrich military contractors and Jew moneymen, like Goldman Sachs. But even so nothing functional is produced because at a lower level the procurement profits must go to low-IQ blacks, women, trannies, etc.

  11. @AKAHorace

    Simple fact. The east and south of Ukraine wants to be with Russia. The west and north west wants to be with the EU. Let it be so. Split the country from east of Sumy to west of Odessa. We would all be so much better off.

  12. slorter says:

    I love it when the Russians keep every one guessing !

  13. Kapyong says:

    In the whole essay by Putin there is no mention at all of the starvation by Stalin of the Ukrainians in the Holodmor.

    There is a brief mention which at least uses the word ‘tragedy’ and ‘famine’ :

    “The common tragedy of collectivization and famine of the early 1930s was portrayed as the genocide of the Ukrainian people.”

    • Agree: Publius 2
  14. Get some sleep brother; tomorrow is a brand new day.

  15. @AKAHorace

    Since there was no Holodomor, Putin didn’t feel the need to reference it.

    As for “helpful”, it is far beyond the point where Russia stopped wanting to be “helpful ” to Ukranazistan.

    • Disagree: Rich, Robert Bruce
  16. @Anonymous

    Let the Faker allow free discussion on the Junkyard and nobody will find the need to disparage the hypocrite here.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  17. The Faker makes the same claim over and over again, that Ukranazistan is about to collapse. He has made it at least once quarterly from 2015 to date. I think he has some kind of contractual obligation to do it.

    I hear a lot of speculation that Zelensky will be replaced by a coup to put an out Nazi on the throne. This is a ludicrous idea. Zelensky is the perfect puppet. Not only is he so servile to the Nazis that Poroshenko looks positively benign in comparison, his being a Jew is daily used by Ukraganda to conceal the Nazi nature of their regime. “We have a Jewish president, ergo we can’t be Nazis!” Even if one accepted the ludicrous notion that Jews can’t be Nazis – and one only has to look at the racist fascist apartheid zionist settler colony in Occupied Palestine to see the truth of that – Zelensky is a spineless puppet with his Jewishness also commending him to the EUNATO gang. Why would the Ukranazis ever get rid of him?

    The missiles: both the Faker and Martyanov deliberately avoid stating that those missiles will only be of any use in the case of a full scale war between Russia and the EUNATO gang. That’s not how wars are fought today. They’re fought by proxy terrorism, colour revolution, economic blockade, and propaganda. How will suited is Russia to fight that kind of war? Not just defensively, but in offence? Putinist regime “restraint” has shown little sign of Russian proficiency in that.

    As for the SU 75, let it fly first. Having awaited the T 14 Armata with bated breath in 2014 and still waiting 7 years later, not to speak of the Project 23000.Shtorm supercarrier, I have learnt to ignore Russian vapourware.

    • Thanks: Kramer, Robert Bruce
    • Replies: @Robert Bruce
    , @gT
  18. Difficult to see how the US is going to catch up as it is swarming with Chinese engineers who may not like the CCP but they must surely like the evermore authoritarian US version of it even less as they are increasingly being picked on in public by the Democrat’s favourite ethnic group and they are surely not going to help develop weapons against their own people but will in fact ensure they feed as much information back to the CCP about US intentions as possible.

    Maybe the US can keep up by employing the hundreds of thousands of “gifted” people who think 2+2=5 that they will be handing out good degrees to based simply on the colour of their skin or on their preferred pronouns.

    The world moves on and the US is finished and they know it. They will try to do what a cornered dying empire always does and the world should be ready for it. But hopefully a similar blast from the sun as the one that missed us a few days ago will take them out real soon without so much as a murmur and since their failed state relies on technology to keep people down and the authoritarian mask has slipped of late maybe the predictions of WW3 being a wholly North American affair will come true after all. Once the US is gone Russia consecrated to Christ can then save Europe from the EU and UK Nazis and kick the anti-Christ out of Rome.

    Sounds like a plan.

  19. Alfred says:

    There are arguments that the Russians suffered as much or more than the Ukrainians, but ignoring this question could make long term reconciliation difficult. From what I have read, the famine explains much of the later collaboration with the Nazis.

    1- This engineered starvation was overseen by Jewish Bolsheviks (see Lazar Kaganovich) in Ukraine.

    2- The objective of this organised famine was to destroy the family farm. Few if any Jews were farmers.

    3- The famine was worst of all in Kazakhstan which lost 50% of its pastoral population. Again, the famine was overseen by Jewish Bolsheviks (Filipp Goloshchyokin)

    4- Similar famines took place in what was Russia proper – the Kuban region, Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union according to the Ziopedia – Responsibility for 1932–33 famine

    5- The part of Ukraine that partly supported the Nazis was not a part of the USSR at that time. It was a part of Poland and did not suffer from famine. Look at the map below.

    6- All references to Holodomor by the current Jewish and Nazi rulers of Ukraine are pure hypocrisy and lies. Everything you read in the MSM is false.

    • Thanks: Robjil, Kramer, Mefobills
  20. Does the Checkmate have internal weapons bays?

  21. awry says:

    The Checkmate is a smaller and cheaper plane based on the technology of the Su-57, with perhaps potentially significantly smaller RCS than that of the Felon.

    Also there have been so many big announcements from the Russians that have not turned out exactly as initially announced. The T-14 Armata is still in limbo somewhere, also the Su-57 – only a handful is flying yet after 11 years of its maiden flight.

    This new plane rides on the back of a main project that has been struggling for many years, but without much additional risk. Basically it’s a Su-57 Lite, seemingly intended for export without domestic demand. The priority of the Russian Air Force itself is the Flanker (Su-27/30/34/35) family and its imminent modernisation, and also to finally introduce the Su-57 into service. There is probably no money for buying the new plane too in significant numbers, the RuAF will probably order a token 25 or so to convince potential export customers. But that is still many years ahead, it won’t even take to the air until 2023.

  22. Saker, thank you for the info. I am not ashamed of showing my naïveté: Why would Russia want to supply these (allegedly) excellent aircraft to the RAF? What am I missing? Will there not be enough takers from countries which are sane and do not froth at the mouth at whatever Russian?

  23. Mike G says:

    The real question is how many social justice appointees will be working on these projects?

  24. @AKAHorace

    The USSR was importing 80% of UK manufacturing exports, and the UK demanded payment not in gold, but grain. Grain exports were banned in 1934 I think, till this century for Russia. And there aren’t really enough gravesites for something like that to the numbers wept about. Travel through Rwanda, you’ll see the wooden arches marking a mass gravesite on roads throughout the country, Ukraine is devoid of that, certainly through Odessa, and my family doesn’t have any gruesome stories about it.

  25. The Russians and Chinese will soon be way ahead in military affairs because the US MIC is so corrupt that its military budget is unaffordable. There is something very delicious about the USA being consumed by its own corrupt parasitism. Of course they have NOTHING to fear of a Chinese or Russian aggression, but they will have to take their boots off the necks of humanity.

    • Replies: @Anon
  26. El Dato says:

    That’s the craft of the statesman: You do not have to highlight everything. There is no mention of the Red Army ravaging the countryside trying to reach Berlin in the 20s either (arguably giving future Nazis an idea about priorities) and various truisms about WWII which may not hold solidly or even at all under scrutiny. And let’s not get started on Polish depredations. Such is life. Sometimes you need to let the sleeping dogs sleep.

    Richard Sakwa writes in “Frontline Ukraine”:

    Winston Churchill once quipped that the Balkans produces more history than it can absorb, and in certain respects this is equally applicable to Ukraine. There is a surfeit of unresolved historical and national issues that remain scabrous and contested, and thus Ukraine has not yet reached the point where it can be considered to have passed Ernest Renan’s test, according to which a nation is made up as much by what is forgotten as that which is remembered. History is raw and alive. For example, the 2014 crisis has brought the notion of ‘Novorossiya’ (New Russia) back into popular discourse. Between 1764 and 1917, Novorossiya was a distinct administrative unit of the Russian Empire along the entire Black Sea coast from Transnistria in the west to Mariupol in the east, and to this day remains predominantly Russian-speaking. Equally, there are other historic entities, such as the old Sloboda Ukraine centred on Kharkov, and Zaporozhia focused on Dnepropetrovsk. Overarching this is the constant tension between Eastern and Western influences. As Andrew Wilson puts it: ‘Ukraine’s entire history could be written in terms of its oscillation between the two sides, with the Russians decisively surpassing the Poles in importance only in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.’ Thus the present contest between ‘Europe’ and Russia is one that goes back centuries, and is a constituent element of Ukraine’s historical DNA.

    and also

    The two contrasting models of statehood and visions of nationhood – the monist and the pluralist – have been contested since Ukraine became an independent state. While I have stressed the divisions, on many issues the two tendencies are agreed, above all on the imperative of developing Ukraine as a sovereign nation state. Despite the many linguistic, cultural and historic differences, all regions, with the exception of Crimea, were committed to the idea of Ukraine. The sentiment expressed repeatedly by the Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko that Belarusians and Russians are ‘one nation’ is one that is not repeated in the Ukrainian context; as the second Ukrainian president, Leonid Kuchma, famously wrote: ‘Ukraine is not Russia.’ David Marples dubbed Belarus a ‘denationalised nation’, with the implication that Russia and Belarus were one nation divided into two states. By contrast, Ukraine was one state divided into many nations, among whom the Russian component (according to the Ukrainisers) was just one; whereas the Malorussian tendency stresses the centrality of Russian influence. The continuing challenge is to find an adequate constitutional form to institutionalise this diversity while creating a governable polity. Constitution-making and politics are always irretrievably interwoven, but in Ukraine this took extreme forms as leadership change and constitutional shaping became entwined.

  27. @AKAHorace

    “From what I have read, the famine explains much of the later collaboration with the Nazis.”

    The so called famine was in 1932, right? In Ukraine? That’s what you claim, isn’t it?

    So why the hell was the collaboration with the Nazis in those parts of Ukraine which were taken (back) from Poland in 1939, not in the whole of Ukraine?

    Why were Bandera etc all active with their OUN in the extreme West of Ukraine, around Lvov (Lwow in Polish), which was not in the USSR till 1939? Why was this the only part of Ukraine to vote for the dissolution of the USSR in March 1991?

    Take a look if you do not believe me:

    How do you explain this?

    (I won’t even ask you about why the Kazakhs didn’t rebel despite losing a far larger proportion of their population in food shortages in the early 1930s, and why the Kazakhs don’t fetishise that loss for the purpose of creating anti Russian propaganda. I won’t even ask you how, if it’s Stalin who’s to blame for the fictional “Holodomor”, it makes any sense to blame Russia, since Stalin was Georgian and not Russian. Or did you not know that?)

    • Replies: @Kramer
  28. Schuetze says:

    Vlad “The crypto-jew” Putin writes:

    “While this is hardly mentioned any longer, after the liberation of Transcarpathia by Soviet troops the congress of the Orthodox population of the region voted for the inclusion of Carpathian Ruthenia in the RSFSR or, as a separate Carpathian republic, in the USSR proper. Yet the choice of people was ignored.”

    “liberation”. lol. This is Putin’s world view in a nutshell. If a small sliver of the population was Russian, and that sliver calls for support from their big bully brother Russia, then all the other racial groups in the region, whether a majority or a super majority, are at extreme risk. This is why Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland cling to Nato so. They know that as soon as some crypto-jew “Russian” starts kvetching about “persecution”, the Jewish useful idiot slavs will come riding in on the Red Russian Rapist Steamroller.

    Ukraine is an interesting case in point. Do Ukrainians really want to conquer Russia and make Kiev the world capital for Slavs? I don’t think so. It is far more likely that Putin wants to coerce Ukraine back into his Slavic slave plantation. This is why Ukraine is desperate to get into Nato.

    Anyone who knows history, and Putin clearly doesn’t, realizes that Russia has been horny to control the Black sea for centuries. Tsar Nicholas dragged the planet into WWI due to his greed for controlling the straights, and WWII could have been avoided if the rapist army supreme commander Uncle Joe hadn’t been just as horny to control the Black Sea.

    Today in Crimea we have the Russian minority who staged a fake plebiscite to join Crimea to Russia. Therefore it is not surprising that Poles, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians, all with Russian minorities, look at this land grab in horror.

    And clearly we see that Vlad the Cryptojew is perfectly willing to bring the entire planet once again to a world war, once again caused by Russia, once again over their obsession with controlling the black sea.

    Just as it is the Serb’s who have caused centuries of war and suffering in the Balkans, so is it the Russians working for their jewish owners who have caused centuries of war and suffering throughout the black sea region.

    As an aside, I despise Nato, the US and the EU even more than I despise the bullying Russian “Federation”. A pox on them all. Everyone of them should be shattered into 1000 pieces and the people allowed to rebuild into smaller, high trust, racially homogeneous homelands. This also brings us to the main issue here that neither Saker nor Putin mentioned: Russia, US, EU and Nato are all participants in the plandemic, they are all pushing the clot shot. Their goal, or more correctly the goal of their common owners, of population reduction is obvious, just as it is obvious that this plandemic is the real threat to humanity, not little bellicose puppet actors like Putin or Ze dancing on the Zio-media stage.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    , @Seraphim
  29. Sergei Kurginyan gives his explanation of why the Bolsheviks added territory to Ukraine:

    Not surprisingly the Faker, being a monarchist as well as a Putin fanboy, doesn’t want to talk about that.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  30. El Dato says:

    The problem is that if you have “all included” how much of it really works, especially in an integrated fashion? Creating complex resilient and reliable machinery at sufficient numbers at high levels of operational readiness is extremely challenging. Design errors and software bugs are not an US exclusivity. Those machines will have to be tested against reality and presumed enemy capabilities (a moving testbed with unknown unknowns) via a lengthy, actually open-ended, shakedown period.

    Can’t we just go back to the glorious prop planes.

    • Replies: @Anon
  31. 36 ulster says:

    Looking at the SU-75, I can only wonder if the Russian Air Force studied John Boyd’s works on fighter design and thermodynamics. It certainly looks like a light, agile dogfighter that Boyd and the “Fighter Mafia” would have proposed (sadly, even the actual F-16 was heavier than Boyd had hoped). There seem to have been few actual dogfights in the past few decades, since the increased range of air-to-air missiles has made missile-launching rather maneuver tactics the preferred mode of attack. Still, pilots no doubt appreciate the ability of their aircraft to engage in “furballs” whenever necesssary.

    • Replies: @notbe
  32. Robjil says:

    The famines were in all the farmlands of the Soviet Union. It was not only in Ukraine. Western Ukraine was not part of the famine, it was part of Poland during the famine. The reason that the Western Ukrainians joined the Nazis was not about the famine. It was about anti-Communism.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    , @HbutnotG
  33. Robjil says:

    A good example of Ukraine’s real status as a ZUS slave state is how it votes at the UN. US/Israel vote the same on most things. Ukraine joins in usually or abstains. Colombia and Brazil are the newest US/Israel client states.

    A total of 184 countries on Wednesday voted in favour of a resolution to demand the end of the US economic blockade on Cuba, for the 29th year in a row, with the United States and Israel voting against.

    In the meeting held in-person on Wednesday at UN headquarters in New York, three countries – Colombia, Ukraine, and Brazil – abstained.

  34. Anon[371] • Disclaimer says:

    True. But remember Stalin was an offshoot of the Jewish bolsheviks that also murdered the Tsar, his family and oppressed ” white” christian Russians

  35. @AKAHorace

    About the Holodomor in Ukraine.
    In the 70s, I often visited my grandmother in the Belgorod region. There is a so-called Jewish forest in that area. Jews fled there from the massacre in Ukraine during the civil war (1918-21).
    Jews were very widely represented in the Communist Party in the subsequent period and especially in Ukraine. When in our time in Ukraine there was an idea to name those who promoted the Holodomor, and they began to do it, Israel rigidly stopped this whole process. The new authorities in Ukraine did not understand well that their activity would leave the paradigm that Muscovites (Russians) were to blame for everything and highlight the local interethnic conflict that goes back to the times of the khanates.

  36. Rich says:

    Enough with the “Nazi” nonsense. The Ukrainian nationalists aren’t the boogeyman from 1930s Germany. Calling your opponent a “Nazi” does nothing for your argument. Reminds me of the old Jews in Queens NY who would end every argument by yelling “Nazi” over and over even if the fight was over a parking space. It’s childish, stop it.

  37. @Idiocrates

    The Faker meant the Russian Aerospace Forces, formerly the Russian Air Force, VVS. Not the Royal Air Force.

  38. Avery says:

    {I am not ashamed of showing my naïveté: Why would Russia want to supply these (allegedly) excellent aircraft to the RAF?}

    Don’t be ashamed: You are not naïve.
    I think TheSaker is being a little sloppy here.
    RAF is his abbreviation for Russian Air Force.

    Mr. TheSaker: may I humbly suggest a slight change? RAF is universally used and recognized in the English speaking world as the abbreviation for the British Royal Air Force. In my posts @UNZ I use RuAF abbreviation for the Russian Air Force.
    Thank you.

    • Agree: Marshal Marlow
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  39. Since Biden at this point in time is a functioning cognitively at the level of slightly above a turnip….We can now say that the Hindu-Jamaican slut Kamala Harris is implementing majority nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc Policy in the Ukraine….but but but Kamala is a person of color and a woman!!!….And yes..the “Native”(migrants from Siberia) Americans voted overwhelmingly for Biden-Harris. Perhaps they would enjoy some Donbass Slavic Christian Russian mancorn in their Injun tummy.

    Democratic Policy at it’s core:Genocidal hatred of Slavic Christian Russia+Genocidal hatred of the Historic Majority White American Working Class….It is now no longer hyperbole to state this…

    • Agree: Publius 2, Alfred
    • Replies: @HomosapiensPlus
  40. Anon[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    They have nothing to fear of a Chinese aggression, for now and the coming years. Never say never though.
    If the current corruption in the USA continues or worsens, the time they risk to receive aggression may come too.

  41. Rahan says:

    Esthetically I still prefer the late 1980s experimental MiG 1.44 that apparently got reincarnated this year as the Chinese J-20.

    I personally think more and more that the reason the US has not made any major advancements in war tech since the first war with Iraq is that the general agenda of the various deep state factions did not plan on a future world where this is needed.

    Thus them allowing the alleged next generation war tech industry to be simply a black hole generating not actual tech results, but profits and careers. Going through the motions for the sake of appearances, and making a few trillions on the way as it were.

    And now I am leaning increasingly toward the idea that right now in front of our eyes they are trying to make this world appear.

    And even Russia’s modern war tech innovations kind of seem like the stuff you would need to maintain military parity even if your population suddenly drops from 140 mil to 50 mil but you still want to ward off hostile takeovers of your resource base.

    The coming autumn and winter seem like a quickly approaching event horizon. A “globohomo-provoked singularity” if you will, after which it’s difficult to make predictions.

    Some nights I lie there feeling deep down that we could very well be living through the last months of the previous civilization. IMO, if world leaders start acting increasingly erratically and/or visibly just going through the motions, this means the event horizon is weeks away.

  42. R.C. says:

    Saker: excellent analysis!
    The F-35; what a dog! But big \$ stolen from us.

  43. Alfred says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    The east and south of Ukraine wants to be with Russia.

    I am in Lviv. Supposedly the centre of the “nationalist” movement. Yesterday, my tattooed young hairdresser agreed with me that the Russians and Ukrainians were the same people. He is going to Kiev soon as Lviv is really a holiday destination. They speak Russian in Kiev. Maybe he will move on to Moscow later on.

    Incidentally, he told me that his grandmother (85) had no problem recovering from Covid. Last December, he also had it – he hardly noticed. 🙂

    I had it in Kiev in November. I had a slight temperature for two days. I never take flu vaccines and I almost never fall ill with the flu. After one week, I was perfectly normal.

    The photo below is from 2 nights ago. Young people having fun. A large local liqueur is around \$1.30. There is a huge variety, but they are too sweet for my taste.

    • Thanks: Levtraro, Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @GMC
    , @Director95
  44. Carlo says:
    @Deep Thought

    Yes, a big one in the lower fuselage, and two smaller lateral at each side.

  45. Publius 2 says:
    @Deep Thought

    The article says it has 5 air to air missiles carried internally.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  46. Kramer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    “..if it’s Stalin who’s to blame for the fictional “Holodomor”, it makes any sense to blame Russia, since Stalin was Georgian and not Russian. Or did you not know that?)”

    It was not the Georgian Empire, though. It was the Russian Empire, which they were calling the Soviet Union for a while.

    Many Roman Emperors were not of Roman extraction, does that exonerate Rome of its crimes?

  47. @Deep Thought

    As of now it has nothing because it does not exist. What exists is a mockup, that is, a glorified model. If the plane is built, and not abandoned like so many others that had mockups constructed – the Yak 44 comes to mind – and if the designers want to persist with stealth features, then it must have internal weapons bays. That’s because external weapons stores (i) are extremely unstealthy and radar visible and (ii) produce a huge amount of drag. The mockup has provision for one weapon bay on each side, in front of the main landing gear struts, and another bay in the belly. These are apparently for a total of five air to air missiles, which is frankly not a particularly impressive number (yet another pitfall of “stealth” is the problem of finding space for everything inside the fuselage). If it is to conduct strike missions it will either have to contain the weapons in these bays or else on underwing and fuselage hardpoints, which in turn will eliminate the “stealth” that’s supposed to be the reason for designing the aeroplane in the first place.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Rahan
  48. gotmituns says:

    Many Interesting Developments in Russia
    There are no interesting developments in Russia. This is just another eyewash article to take people’s mind off the only thing that counts – the jewish problem.

  49. Carlo says:

    The Armata platform has not started serial production yet because it is way ahead of anything other countries have, and too expensive. It is not really needed at the moment, upgraded vesrsions of older tanks (T-90, even T-72) are more than enough for the current needs and are on par with Western most recent tanks (which are all Cold War era designs). But rest assured they will be produced and delivered in quantity in a few years.
    Regarding the Su-57, there was a change to the plan. Initially the idea was to start serial production and deliveries with the current engines (AL-41F1, basically the same used in the Su-35S), but now they decided to have just a small pre-serial batch with these engines and start real massive production when the new, much improved engine, (izdelie 30) is ready in a couple of years. Also, they are adding new capabilities to the plane (like operating with the large drone S-70 Okhotnik), and want to decrease the production price before mass producing (like with the Armata). At a meeting with Putin on MAKS yesterday, UAC director Slyusar stated that the Su-57 demands more than twice the hours to produce compared to a Su-35S, and they are working in the production line to decrease it to 1.2.

  50. Alfred says:

    The T-14 Armata is still in limbo somewhere

    Perhaps the Russians, rather late in the day, have worked out that expensive tanks are vulnerable to cheap drones and even cheaper smart mortar shells?

    Back in 1991, I tried to explain to the uncle of my Norwegian son that tanks were about to become obsolete because drones will be the future. He was a colonel on the Norwegian general staff. Supposedly a smart guy. Yet, he just could not grasp one simple fact. Tanks have almost no armour on their topside. Their hatches can be penetrated by the right type of bullet fired from above. Smart mortar shells and drones will finish them off.

    The military are notoriously incapable of thinking in a systematic way. I guess the experience of the Russians in Syria has not been wasted.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @notbe
  51. JonL says:

    “…maybe the predictions of WW3 being a wholly North American affair will come true after all.”

    I haven’t heard this but it sounds intriguing (and terrifying, for a resident thereof like myself.) Do you have a source for this? I know Putin has said that he would bring any war between the US and Russia to our shores, but has any legitimate analyst proposed how this might take place? Do they think there could be analogues to the Somme, the Light Brigade, or the desolation of Dresden anywhere in North America?


    • Replies: @Paul Greenwood
  52. @Rich

    Right! They aren’t Nazis. They only hold Waffen SS pride parades, fly the Wolfsangel flag, paint swastikas on their helmets, wear “slaveowner” patches, put children in camps modelled on the Hitlerjugend where they’re trained to hate Russians, give Hitler salutes, and subscribe to Nazi ideology. But they aren’t Nazis! No sir!

    • Agree: Carlo
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Fox
  53. @Kramer

    Huh? Ukraine in the early 1930s was under the charge of Ukrainian commissars.

  54. Anon[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    You make an interesting point. I can fix my 60’s Beetle car with a pliers, a screwdriver, and a wrench set and some wire and string. I can change major components eg starter and all that and I am not a mechanic by any means

    Now with my Audi, I need a Phd in Mechanics, Computer Science and Electrical Engineering in addition to a diagnostic computer system plus sophisticated tools Parts are super expensive. I also need very small hands. Stupid little sensors one inch long with some slivers of metal cost \$500 and the manufacturer seems to put them in the most unaccessible places. When it gets super cold or the sensor gets worn out or dirty there is a malfunction.

    To your point, what happens when all these sophisticated machines are destroyed, damaged or rendered non functional because these fancy parts are unavailable ? I read an article once that stated after a few months of battle we will be unable to replace these sophisticated weapons and will revert to the good old fashioned mechanical devices. Even when I think of it at an elementary level, if my SUV is laid up and parts and all these computer components are no available its back to the Volkswagen, bicycle and horse.

    It all a lot of fun to boast about these super weapons but we need to realise we live in a fragile world. One bad chip can shut down even the gas pumps. With the kind of technology in some of these super weapons everything has to be so so or the thing is likely to fall back on your head.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Thanks: El Dato
  55. Levtraro says:

    They do look like nazi residues, with their symbols, flags and marching with torches. This marching with torches have always called my attention regarding nazi monkeys, it is something out of Orc land. Why do they do that? What is it with nazi simpletons that drive them to march with torches?

  56. TG says:

    Side comment on military technology: you can’t just look at the paper specification of range speed payload etc. How good is the guidance system really? How well will the anti-jamming systems really work when pitted against modern western systems? And the thing is, we really can’t know until they come head-to-head.

    In the long run it certainly looks like the US is headed into a technological decline – they have outsourced most of their industrial base, and sooner or later development and innovation will follow. And the US is becoming more and more corrupt, more and more cost-plus no-bid contracts, more and more politically connected monopoly suppliers, more and more ‘woke’ personnel staffing based on skin color not ability, etc. But, coasting on past achievements, the US still has a lot of strengths remaining, and they won’t all go away in a day.

  57. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    The same goes for Pepe Escobar. He was high on BRICS since W was in office. Now it is in shambles.

  58. MLK says:

    One of the many reasons for “Trump Must Go!” was that he demystified geopolitics and its commanding heights practitioners.

    As my previous comments not only attest but belabor, the US so-called Unipolar Moment is a Sad Story. In geopolitics, “moments” are the equivalent of not just premature but immediate ejaculation after lucking into bed with the prettiest girl you ever happened upon.

    Watch the following for a taste of the thankless heavy-lifting Trump since he came down the escalator:

    Surely I’m not the only one to have noticed that in installing the current occupant in the White House, like a light switch turning off, the entire anti-Trump alignment has enforced foreign policy Quietism in the US. Pay attention to the NeoCon filth. They all endorsed Biden and now have gone practically radio silent as “Biden” pays off foreign powers for staying on team or acquiescing to operation Get Rid Of Trump.

    Otherwise, — and the tell was “Biden” announcing it’s “unwavering support,” as it did for the Ukraine and Israel, is akin to this:

    Just as the Snowden phase signaled that the US MIC would sacrifice whatever was demanded of it in terms of the national interest to save themselves from a reckoning for building a global surveillance state, including the US citizenry as its central focus, and then losing it to China, Russia and God knows who else; “Biden” is giving away the geopolitical store in an effort to maintain its illegitimate hold on power.

    In this context, it isn’t that Ukraine didn’t have cards to play, it’s that as we’ve seen the piss poor ones it had were all against the current regime in Washington. Putin/Russia are much too smart to go for the short-end scraps when longterm geopolitical gains (e.g. Nord Stream 2) are on offer in contradistinction to Ukraine’s “let it burn.”

    I’m old fashioned. Without bias I consider historical analogues. Both at least partially operative ones and those the relevant parties realistically or not consider relevant. Even half-intelligent middle schoolers are now aware that Ukraine needs to be neutralized in the broader geopolitical context.

    Ukraine has now been told what time it is by all concerned. With this speech, and much behind the curtain, Putin/Russia are offering Ukraine a chance to climb out of the tree. That’s the best characterization of what is an exceedingly dangerous situation all around.

    What was analogous to Serbia/WWI has been allowed to morph into something akin to The Cuban Missile Crisis. Simplify — in the latter the USG and Soviet Union neutralized equally monumental risk by establishing behind the curtain rules of the road for all concerned.

    • Agree: Alfred
  59. @Kramer

    “It was the Russian Empire, which they were calling the Soviet Union for a while.”

    Are you pretending or you really don’t know anything about Russian history?

    Yes, the USSR and the Russian Empire occupied largely the same space on Earth, but so did the Byzantine Empire and Turkey, yet Turkey is not the Byzantine Empire.

    The USSR was a Jewish-Marxist Empire that killed millions of Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians and others. It was not the “Russian Empire, which they were calling the Soviet Union for a while”.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Thanks: RadicalCenter, Publius 2
    • Replies: @Kramer
  60. @Vasilios

    Production is one thing. I recall being told at Rolls-Royce the Russians make very good engines but fail to do proper maintenance. As for NATO production runs being longer, I suggest with China and India Russian production runs will be longer if these aircraft are so keenly priced.

    It is not as if price-tags win wars – air power has been a US-UK strength since 1943 – but has not achieved victory in Korea or Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan – and even in 1943 without the Red Army advances after Bagration it is hard to see how Berlin would have fallen

    • Replies: @Vasilios
    , @notbe
  61. @JonL

    “desolation of Dresden” ???? Do elaborate. If you visit the place you will find the military complex at Albertstadt was unscathed by USAAF/RAF bombing and is now a museum.

    Why anyone in USA thinks they can put Mk41 launchers in Poland and Romania and threaten Russia without losing Chicago and LA and NYC and Denver or Dallas, Atlanta and Seattle frankly concerns me with respect yo US education.

    You have no idea how many Club-K containers are already inside the Continental United States.

    • Agree: Alfred
  62. @Anon

    When Germany sold the Beetle it was a country with low exchange rate and low wage costs. To compete it has had to upload so much crap onto a car to justify German wage costs which are (wages + 100% social costs) and some of the highest on earth. Hence Audi and BMW and Mercedes with key kit made in Hungary and packaged as Made in Germany

    Same for US weapons procurement – huge overhead to pay dividends and executive bonuses and College fees for executive progeny – requires more bells and whistles. I recall books in USA during Reagan Defence Boom with a nut on the front cover encased in plastic stating “this nut cost you \$1 but it cost US taxpayer \$15,000” and coffee machines in B-1 bombers designed to make coffee while flying upside down.

    Over-specifying is a licence to print money. Russian State OWNS defence manufacturers

    • Replies: @Anon
  63. @awry

    Except in the core competences of missile and submarine development, Russian, as opposed to Soviet, defence technology development is mostly big talk and very little action (exactly the opposite of the Chinese). With the sole exception of the SU 57, of which after over a decade hardly 20 have been produced, Russia has not created a single fixed wing combat aircraft from new after the fall of the USSR. Not one! The MiG 35 is a glorified MiG 29, the SU 35 is an upgraded SU 27, and so on. Nobody knows when the PAK DA stealth bomber will ever enter service or in what numbers; apparently prototypes are only now being constructed. Similarly the TU 160 bomber is supposed to be put into production again but last I checked not one has yet been manufactured. They’re still just and very slowly upgrading the small number of old ones that are new enough to be upgraded.

    It’s the same story with the aircraft carriers. This isn’t the place to talk about whether carriers are useful in today’s world, but Russia has been keeping on talking about constructing carriers and displaying carrier models for, what, 20 years or more (I recently read a snarky article correctly saying Russia has the world’s largest fleet of model aircraft carriers), but what’s it actually done? Well, it has not even launched a destroyer, let alone a carrier. It’s been talking about creating the Lider class destroyer for maybe two decades but there is no sign of the ship.

    The T 14 Armata at least made it to the prototype stage, which is frankly great going by Russian standards. Meanwhile Russian actual armoured divisions still depend on the T72/80/90 series, each of which is just a progressive upgrade of the other, and all of which originated in the USSR. This isn’t to denigrate the T 90, which in the latest versions is an excellent tank, but it does make the point that Russia, unlike the USSR, produces much more big talk than new weapons systems.

    • Replies: @GMC
    , @notbe
  64. “Even better, the Empire has nothing, and really I mean absolutely nothing, it could oppose to either one of these weapons systems.”

    The Empire has trannies and “pride” parades. Nothing, and I mean nothing can come close to it. We’ll blow you out of the Euxine in no time… we are family, I got all sisters with me…

  65. Russian Airforce has lots of updated SU-27s…So no great urgency…I would think….to get the SU-75s out as fast as possible. My amateur armchair analysis….

    What I would like to see are a lot more Panstirs…..Tors…and Buk missiles in Syria…and send a dozen more updated MiG-29s to Syria.

  66. A valuable review from the Saker though he admits to being a Putin “fan boy”.

    In this sense it’s maybe an insight into official Russian thought.
    So fair enough about military advances, but the theme running through this is the Saker/Putin is still fighting WW2 against the “Nazi’s”, the stupid vicious bonehead Nazi’s who always and everywhere do vicious stupid and bad things. As opposed to the innocent and totally well-meaning and wholly beneficial judeo-bolsheviks.

    It’s a Party-political broadcast by the Lubbovitchers on the May Victory.

    Sorry to sound cynical, Mr Saker, but there needs to be a realistic appraisal of bolshevism and the other -isms that formed 70+ years of horror for Russians and other Europeans that the moneychangers imposed on them. An honest review by Russians of the last century of the history of “communism” and not a continuing judeo-hollywood fairytale.
    How Polish communists built a “gas-chamber” at Auschwitz post-WW2 for example.
    To ask this is not to be a “nazi”.

    Section 49: Auschwitz Museum Finally Admits that “Gas Chamber” Was Built After the War
    Finally, however, too many people started asking questions, and an article in the French magazine, L’Express, of January 1995, proved to be a turning point. In an article, the journalist Eric Conan stated to a shocked readership that the “gas chamber” shown to tourists was built in 1948 by Polish communists.
    “The Auschwitz staff now admits this,” Conan wrote. “Tout y est faux”—Everything in it is fake” (Eric Conan: “Auschwitz: La mémoire du mal,” L’Express, Paris, 19 janvier 1995).

  67. @InnerCynic

    Seven F-16 missiles fired by Israel at Syria were destroyed by the Pantsir-S and Buk-M2 complexes of the Syrian air defense, said Rear Admiral Vadim Kulit, deputy head of the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the warring parties in the SAR.

    “On July 19, in the period from 23.39 to 23.51, four F-16 tactical fighters of the Israeli Air Force, entering the Syrian airspace through the Al-Tanf zone controlled by the US armed forces, struck eight guided missiles at objects southeast of the city of Aleppo. Seven missiles were destroyed by the Syrian air defense forces on duty with Russian-made Pantsir-S and Buk-M2 complexes, “RIA Novosti quotes him as saying.

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  68. Anonymous[360] • Disclaimer says:

    Really? To tout the military hardware successes of the Ruskies is to ignore that they can’t make reliable tootsie rolls. Previous planes were shoddy, at best, and prone to being held together with baling wire and rubber bands! That’s when they could reliably fly at all! Nice try comrade.

    Exactly. The lack of diversity and especially the genius talent pool from the Subcontinent and Asia— the backbone of American tech and engineering— seriously hampers a Russian tech and science industry.

    Unless Russia opens its borders to black and brown talent it will suffer! Thanks NavyBrat for reminding us why American tech and science is so strong!

  69. @Ray Caruso

    Exactly, and this is why the USA spends more money on military-related matters than do the next ten highest-spending nations combined. Much of the money is pocketed by the executives of military contractors, and is also siphoned off for “low-IQ blacks, women, trannies, etc.”

    US weapons systems are intentionally produced as junk so that endless cost overruns and budget inflation keep the federal dollars rolling.

    Many Americans imagine that this obscene amount of spending means the USA has the world’s strongest military. The reality is that in a real war with a real adversary (e.g. Russia or China) the USA’s “woke” and “diverse” military would be crushed.

    • Agree: Ray Caruso
  70. Rahan says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    If the plane is built, and not abandoned like so many others that had mockups constructed – the Yak 44 comes to mind

    That’s a bit different; the Yak 44 is like the Buran space shuttle and the MiG 1.44 fighter –those belong to the last wonderwaffle wave that reached the stage of becoming the real thing half an hour before the USSR collapsed.

    Of course they all die. And yet MiG 1.44 reappeared this very year like a month back rebranded as the new Chinese J-20 fighter plane. And the Buran no doubt can also be rebranded that way should China ever decide it needs space shuttles. Both products were perfectly functional, it’s just that the civilization that produced them collapsed, and the smaller and weaker states that appeared instead didn’t have what it takes to continue work on projects of this magnitude.

    Thus the Yak 44, could very well be in the category of MiG 1.44 and the Buran shuttle–stuff that could work and was top notch for its era, but fell through the cracks of the big collapse.

    That’s about the Yak. About Su-75–we’ll wait and see. Maybe the whole world, the USA very much included, is at a stage where you periodically show some new thing to pretend you’re still evolving your military, but predominantly use 1980s and even 1970s tech. Like the Abrams tank, the Apache helicopter, and all the F-15s, F-16s, F-117, F-22, Patriot, and so on.

    Everyone has stalled and does “modernizations” of hardware that has been around for 40 and 50 years, and periodically shows something “new generation” which doesn’t really work as advertised, or even start working worse than before, like on civvie street we see with some new versions of smartphones, laptops, TV sets, and so on. Not counting missiles, especially Russian missiles–rockets and artillery are their thing ever since WWII, so that’s real. Also some submarine developments.

    Which is also how China caught up, military-wise. We may be in 2021, but all it really needed to do is reach the US/Soviet level of circa 1987 with new computer tech thrown in, and buy from players like France missing details that it couldn’t do by itself and Russia wasn’t willing to sell and the Ukraine (which in the early 1990s kicked off China’s military modernization) didn’t have in stock.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  71. Agent76 says:

    July 21, 2021 US Senators Introduce Bill Aimed at Reigning in White House’s War Powers

    National Security Powers Act seeks to increase control over military actions, arms sales and declaring ‘national emergencies’

    Apr 16, 2021 Ready for nuclear holocaust with Russia over Ukraine?

    Are we prepared to see our loved ones burn alive in a nuclear holocaust in a war with Russia over Ukraine? If not, cut out the macho saber rattling and deescalate before it’s too late.

    • Agree: Dnought, InnerCynic
    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  72. Rahan says:

    Bahahaha, thanks for the pics!
    That plump girl with the NASA t-shirt… Obviously I need to place half a dozen Jesus Christ statuettes on my desk and cover my office walls with icons.

  73. GMC says:

    Alfred , Alfred , Alfred, some older women love to have a glass of Cognac next to their rich dark coffee – in the late afternoon. Maybe a small desert for two – also. If they go for a champagne date the next day or so – you’re in – buddy. lol

    • LOL: Alfred
  74. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Putin is a well known fabulist. His “history” is a good example.

  75. the only reason a viking, such as myself, would have an affinity for the rus is that the rus are vikings; however, in 1917, the rus acceded to the overthrow of russia by the (((chosenites))).

    as noted in the first comment by akahorace, the (((communists))) were extremely harsh on ukranian christians; it, therefore, denigrates the saker’s observations on russo/ukranian relations when he belittles the ukranian’s national socialist allegiance by calling ukranians ukronazis. it is only human nature to take refuge in those armies aligned against the murderers 0f 30 million of ones countrymen.

    there are enough insightful treatises on ww2 for everyone to have gleaned the role the national socialists played in preventing (((communist))) domination of the european continent; as a lifelong supporter of der fuhrer, i am forever grateful for the contribution to humanity the 3rd reich played in preserving a (((communist)))-free western world.

    i’ve lived in russia and bear the russian people no ill will; however, (((chosenites))) are still a protected class in mother russia; an anachronistic remnant of bygone days which should be immediately exterminated for the good of the russian rus.

  76. @Anonymous

    The Saker haters in 3…2…1… GO….

    Hilarious. One does not need to “hate” Saker to deal with his idiocy. Saker is simply a foolish Putin shill with little acquaintance with the truth. The screed above is just one more example of his foolishness and ignorance.

  77. @Agent76

    Putin is the only one rattling sabers. You Putin shills lack any awareness of what is going on.

    • Troll: Dnought
    • Replies: @Agent76
    , @Seraphim
  78. Rich says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    It’s always the scary, evil “Nazis” with you people. The National Socialists were in power for 10, 11 years maybe before they were wiped out. 1945 is a long time ago. Find a new boogeyman. The Ukrainian nationalists are a completely different group, but, like the Negroes in America whining about the imaginary KKK, you guys have to have your “Nazis”. It makes you look ridiculous.

  79. A very gentle reminder:

    4 Star US Army General Mark Milley is a floating brown turd in Rosie O’Donnell’s turlet…..And this is the Apex of Civilization of American Civilization 2021…

  80. @AKAHorace

    Actually there was only very limited collaboration with the Third Reich by east Ukrainians. This may be obscured by 1 prominent case, John Demjanjuk, of an east Ukrainian who did collaborate with the invader and was decades later subjected to a protracted show trial. But most east Ukrainians fought with either the Soviet army or with the guerillas. The OUN was the West Ukrainian Nationalist movement. West Ukraine was part of Poland up until 1939 when the Hitler-Stalin pact made it part of the USSR. All of the photos which you may have seen of Soviet citizens welcoming the Wehrmacht come from regions which were annexed by Stalin in 1939-40. Although Vlasov did attempt to join with the German invaders (and was dismissed by Himmler for 2 years until 1944 when Himmler suddenly decided that he needed extra manpower) there was no vast outpouring of welcome for the Wehrmacht in the east Ukraine or any part of the pre-1939 USSR.

    As for the Holodomor hoax, the most important thing which the opening of the archives after 1991 demonstrated was that this a crop failure caused rustic plant disease and the myth spread by Robert Conquest et al that the crop would have been adequate to feed everyone but Stalin wanted to create an artificial famine is a lie. Mark Tauger has done the major research on what do the archives show. The amount of grain exported during the famine was around 364,000 tons, not the 1.8 million that has been popularized. It was obviously a bad decision to export any grain, but the crop failure was not well understood. Rustic plant disease allowed grain stalks to grow without the usual proportion of grain , hence creating the illusion of an adequate crop. Since Czarist times it had been normal for officials dealing with farms to always correct estimates of crop yield given by farmers with the assumption that farmers understated their crops. All of that fueled confusion, but there was no “manmade famine.” It was famine caused by natural disaster.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  81. GMC says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Doesn’t matter – Sonny – The Crimea bridge works and the roads going to and from it – are brand new. Russia doesn’t have to conquer the world if their nukes are up to date. They just have to keep up with the western Bull shit and keep designing a few defensive/offensive weapons.

    Nato moves East for the money and the huckleberry countries that host them are toast, if they launch anymore than a cup of borscht. So, the chess game continues .

    Every country from the US, Britain, Nederlands to Turkey and Israel are designing all these different strategies to make themselves look like they are the main players in taking over the different parts of the World – but everyone of them , doesn’t even know how to take care of their own country within. lol
    Russia doesn’t need No Mo land – they just need their space – and that infuriates the NWO. Spacibo FNT.

    • Replies: @frontier
    , @Quartermaster
  82. Agent76 says:

    “He who learns but does not think, is lost! He who thinks but does not learn is in great danger.” Confucius

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  83. Kramer says:

    So, the Anglo-American empire of today should also be absolved of its crimes, because it is actually the Zionist Empire, eh?

  84. gT says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Actually you do have a point, Russia is only geared up for total war, Russia is not geared up for proxy terrorism, colour revolution, economic blockade, and propaganda.

    America is obsessed with handguns, when asked why Russia only concerns itself with rifles and not with handguns, a Russia General responded with rifles win wars. The latest T-72 variant features the same gun and fire control system as the T-14, so its better than the T-14. It can be manufactured much more cheaply and there are lots of rusting T-72 hulls lying around waiting to be resurrected across the former USSR. A tank is only supposed to fire like 20 rounds on average before getting knocked out in high intensity warfare anyway.

    Proxy terrorism didn’t work against the total warfare ideology, Chechnya proved that. In Syria a few Russian planes and lots of Iranians took care of ISIS, so much so that the US and Turkey had to step in and occupy Syrian land to protect the last vestiges of their proxy’s. Colour Revolutions only work when there is hesitantly in taking a strong hand against civilians, the USSR historically did not have that problem, so neither should Russia. Economic blockades do work, but only if the target country is dependent on imports and exports, Russia does not have that problem, Russia is self sufficient. I suppose this is the only area where China is of benefit to Russia, Russia has 40 year long gas contracts with China. Propaganda is also something that only works when there is hesitantly in taking a strong hand against civilians, the USSR historically did not have that problem, so neither should Russia. Kicking the ngo’s out of Russia helped a great deal against the propaganda and colour revolutions, Putin’s ratings are still in the 70 or 80%’s.

    But Russia is too peaceful, they should have taken a much more active role against the US in Afghanistan, they could have at least supplied the Taliban with weaponry that would have made the American lives a bit more difficult, but they didn’t. Yet the Americans are leaving Afghanistan anyway, so maybe Russia’s lack of offensive initiative is because it is not necessary. I don’t think the Russian people can do offense, they only seem to wake up when its a defensive war when Russia is attacked.

    • Replies: @Garliv
    , @The_seventh_shape
  85. Sparkon says:

    And yet MiG 1.44 reappeared this very year like a month back rebranded as the new Chinese J-20 fighter plane.

    Not really. Just eyeballing their drawings, one should notice significant differences in the design of the two aircraft, specifically the inlets, or air intake ducts, shape of the delta wings, ratio of wingspan to length, shape and position of the forward canards, along with shape, position, and angles of the rear stabilizers, or empennage.


    Diagrams: Wikipedia

  86. @War for Blair Mountain

    Russians are only “white” in terms of skin and hair colour. In terms of intellectual capacity, life expectancy, crime rates and work ethic, they strongly resemble black Americans.

    Labour productivity is lowest in Europe, and even that is skewed upwards by oil productivity.

    Russia’s HIV/AIDS infection rate is higher than much of Sub-Saharan Africa. Most Russian guys beat their wives and kids, and Russia has not seen any technological innovation in the last 40 years.

  87. Vasilios says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    Russian kit has historically been more durable/easy to maintain than US/NATO kit. As for how the I-30 Engines will be in action, we will see. As far as aircraft go, the Russians recent actions in Syria shocked Western observers with the ability of their Air Force to sustain a high number of missions per day with only a token force, so there is that.

    • Agree: notbe
  88. I won’t comment on Ukie “state” (nothing but good should be said of the dead, and here we have a corpse that does not deserve a single good word).

    From my perspective, too much attention is being paid to weapons and too little to things that actually matter: everyday functioning of the state. Advanced weapons might be useful to cool the crazier heads of some libtards in the Empire, but they are not what ordinary citizens experience in their daily lives.

    Recent floods exposed far more important differences. What was dealt with quickly and efficiently, with minimal loss of life, in Crimea and Krasnodar region in Russia, became a catastrophe in Western Germany, with the loss of >160 lives. That comparison shows true capability of doing something useful (as opposed to puffing cheeks and empty preaching) of Russian “authoritarian” government and self-proclaimed “democracy”. Nothing new here, Matthew 7:16: “Ye shall know them by their fruits”.

    • Agree: notbe
    • Replies: @notbe
  89. Watching a guy do a drone swarm from his iPhone and thinking all this shit is obsolete.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  90. notbe says:

    bailing wire and rubber bands wouldnt hold a plane together in flight so i doubt migs were held together with bailing wire and rubber bands
    whats with americans? making a conscious decision to totally underestimate enemies-weird actually
    i mean it makes one feel good and think that one has a talent with snappy one-liners so i guess evolutionary-wise it provides self-confidence with the ladies but one has to live in reality eventually

  91. notbe says:

    actually they make planes and rocket-type things among other things but saying that russia has not seen any tech innovation in the last forty years is a way of enhancing your self confidence even if it is totally delusional
    i dont really thing you know the meaning of tech innovation and what a forty year timespan actually entails
    the aids thing is true, st petersburg is totally desolated and depopulated and moscow is much worse

  92. notbe says:

    talking about germany, the story of the berlin-brandenburg airport is bizarre- one just shakes his head after all, we are talking about efficient germany here! mozambique would have done a much better job

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  93. Carlo says:

    Someone seems to be living in 1998. These were all consequences of a civilizational colapse that have mostly disappeared or at least greatly decreased. The same is going to happen in the US, also. Murder rate per 100,000 is higher now in the US than in Russia.

  94. @Ukraine Tiger

    Simple fact. The east and south of Ukraine wants to be with Russia.

    It is a blanket statement. In some locations they do but there are all reasons to believe that a solid majority of them wants to be on Russian welfare while remaining decidedly Ukrainian. I do not know percentages but a would say 60-5% of those people in the East and South of Ukraine want just Russia’s money not “to be with Russia”. Most importantly, Russians’ attitude changed, with majority not willing to see Ukraine in Russian “fold”. Sadly, at some point Russia will have to deal with shithole of a country and Putin is laying down the groundwork for that.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
    • Replies: @Marshal Marlow
  95. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:

    This article would benefit from a thorough proof-reading, not by the author.

    Example: ” There were a few partial photos, some drawings, a few partial photos, all augmented by educated guesses.”

  96. Garliv says:

    Actually you do have a point, Russia is only geared up for total war, Russia is not geared up for proxy terrorism, colour revolution, economic blockade, and propaganda


    This is very true. I have always wondered what Russians were doing when Victoria “F*ck EU” Nuland & Co were organising regime change in Ukraine. This is more so given how strategic Ukraine is to Russia. And US/EU/Nato have also been instigating anti-Russia views in Russia’s whole backyard. To this there doesn’t seem to be a well thought out plan for counter by the Russians. It’s a serious weakness in Russia’s attempts to counter West’s truancy.

    • Replies: @Antiwar7
    , @Bill
    , @Uncoy
  97. @InnerCynic

    Either put up or shut up

    To update a bit on how older Russian systems perform.

    MOSCOW (AP) — Syria’s air defense forces shot down seven out of eight missiles launched by Israeli warplanes during a raid that targeted the Syrian province of Aleppo, the Russian military said Tuesday. Rear Adm. Vadim Kulit, the head of the Russian military’s Reconciliation Center in Syria, said that four Israeli F-16 fighter jets targeted facilities southeast of Aleppo in Monday’s strike.
    Kulit said seven of eight missiles launched by the Israeli fighter jets were downed by Syrian air defense units that used Russia-supplied air defense systems Pantsyr-S and Buk-M2. One missile damaged the building of a scientific research center in Safira, he said.

    Hearing about “put up of shut up” from fanboys of a military which lost all its wars in post WW II period is rather funny. But then again, in a country with such military “specialists” like Bolton:

    Former national security adviser John Bolton insisted on Friday that the United States had not lost the war in Afghanistan while criticizing President Joe Biden’s order for a full military withdrawal from the country. Bolton — who served as a high-ranking State Department official under former President George W. Bush at the time of the initial U.S. military invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001 — maintained that America’s armed forces did not lose the two-decade conflict, but had simply “walked away from it.”

    Of course, and who can forget a “brilliant victory” in Vietnam. In alternative universe with tricky laws of physics this certainly is true.

    • Agree: Rdm
    • Thanks: emersonreturn
  98. @Anon

    Good point. Science fiction has given us a few prophecies about what the world will look like once nobody can maintain or fix the complex systems that they’ve come to depend upon.

    I’m no luddite, but it’s a bit scary to see people becoming so habitually dependent on someone else’s knowledge and resources. I mean, even if just the direction apps stopped working, we’d already have millions of hopelessly lost people driving around in circles 😀

    BTW I miss my old Beetle. Aside from bigger spare parts, I could fit everything that I needed to fix it into a toolbox under the front hood. My ’95 Jeep is almost there but still has a basic computer and some needless systems, like the AC 😀

    • Agree: notbe
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  99. Whatever anybody’s reservations about Putin may be, he sounds like an actual statesman compared to most Western leaders. Even if it’s nothing but political rhetoric, he’s at least smart and thoughtful enough to put his opposition’s political rhetoric to shame.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @RodW
    , @Mulegino1
  100. @Ray Caruso

    The cost has to be inflated not just due to corruption; this is practically the only way for US to absorb as much dollars as possible out of its client states, to stop triggering a hyperinflation; in everyday life terms, America has imported huge quantities of stuff for decades, but paid for it not with gold or exports, but only with its Dollar IOUs; some day all those people holding these IOUs are going to demand from America something in exchange for their IOUs; now if all those IOUs return to American people then dollar will be nearly worthless, so America has to sell something in return for those IOUs. And the only thing it makes any longer is the MIC weapons. So it has to inflate the cost of these weapons many times over, so that it is effectively siphoning dollars out of reach of the American people (and making its MIC immensely wealthy too.)

    • Replies: @Decoy
  101. frontier says:

    Russia doesn’t need No Mo land – they just need their space

    That kind of thinking is a strategic hazard, my hope is Putin isn’t that dumb and he’s pretending to support it in order to preserve the sanity of the Russian population. A plane here and a missile there are must haves but not the full list. Saker’s USSR style of thinking never gets close to the all important strategic issues which Russia seems oblivious about too. The “mujaheddin” strategy is no longer a primary tool, it’s an annoyance to be used for disorientation. The fundamentals of geopolitics have changed but it doesn’t seem Russia is catching up to it.

  102. @notbe

    Yea, endless construction of new Berlin airport, which lasted so long that the destruction of what was already built is likely needed today, is a great example of German “efficiency”. In the 13 years the Berlin Brandenburg airport was supposedly built, Russia built dozens of excellent new airports, including the one in Simferopol, Crimea ( The comparison yields exactly the same conclusions as flood response in 2021, showing that Germany’s problems are not acute, but rather chronic.

    • Agree: notbe
  103. @HomosapiensPlus

    I think you are over doing it by many orders of magnitude. The Cameroonian Slave Boy’s descendants…the females….can pass for members of the Swedish Bikini Team these days. At least Russia had the good sense years ago to limit the number of captured African Slave Boys the Russian Elites could bring into Russia.

    But I don’t think Pytor Ufimstev….Leroy Gruman Award Winner…..has a speck of Negro Ancestry in him….

    I’m not joking about this…But these days Marilyn McCoo looks Scandinavian-Slavic…what the fuck?

  104. Antiwar7 says:

    The Saker:

    Or has the country which developed the superb F-16, A-10. 747 or the F-15 lost its ability to produce truly superb aircraft? I don’t know.

    What do you think?

    I don’t think the woke brigade will get the job done any better than the current kleptocratic regime in power.

  105. Antiwar7 says:

    First, the Russians had to protect themselves. Now, maybe, they have the opportunity to concentrate on their near abroad. It’s true that narratives are important. Putin’s essay, and his defense of it, seems to show that they realize that.

  106. El Dato says:

    Back in 1991, I tried to explain to the uncle of my Norwegian son that tanks were about to become obsolete because drones will be the future.

    Don’t even need drones. “Tank plinking” was a big activity in Gulf War #1.

    Military should read as assidously as good doctors.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  107. babu says:

    How about reparations for the blacks for 400 years of chattle slavery and for the greatest holocaust the world has ever known. Not to mention 8 years of meritorious manumission by Obama.

  108. Article is a bit breathless, but it is nice to see somebody actually believe in things even if they are not true.

    It does not matter what equipment the Russians have, they have enough nuclear bombs.

    Putin, for all his faults, seems to be more decent than any leader in the west. Good luck to him and the Russians.

  109. What if……..

    The Syrian Airforce had 100 rehabed MiG-29s…..and lots more Panstirs…Tors….and Buks……and drove General Slimey Mark Milley’s US homosexual pederast US Army out of Syria….

    Fantasy weapon:A Panstir type platform…no missiles….10 thousand rounds…fast loading…..

  110. @RobinG

    Yes, there’s a potential sweetener for Ukraine —

    Washington and Berlin have struck a deal that would see the US drop opposition to the almost-complete Nord Stream 2 pipeline for Russian gas, in exchange for Germany promising investments in Ukraine.

    People must be reflecting how generous of USA …
    Really magnanimous to allow that pipeline … lol …

    However remains to be seen what “investments” Germany is expected to put in.
    Might work out for the better, though
    If this strengthens De’s ties with Rus, could be Ok in the end …
    Then again, it’s Ukraine …

  111. @Ukraine Tiger

    Agreed. The most obvious border would be the Dnieper River. That’s what Russia should have pushed for back in the 90’s had they not been led by an incompetent alcoholic.

  112. @Alfred

    Alfred has the right take on Ukaine. The girls are beautiful and nice. Blue eyes the color of robin eggs and milky white skin.

    Forget about those kunts babbling about missiles and jet thrusters. Go out and make some babies. We depend on it.

    • Agree: Alfred, Levtraro
  113. ATBOTL says:

    Russia looks stupid when they announce things that don’t exist yet. Compare this to how the American stealth planes were revealed only after they were operational.

    • Replies: @Alfred Muscaria
    , @Farhad
  114. Anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre

    Those in the Oval Office come and go, but their policy’s never change’s, We know it and they know that we know it. Putin in a speech and he was right…..There, I fixed it for you free of charge…

  115. @notbe

    whats with americans? making a conscious decision to totally underestimate enemies-

    We are under new management based in Tel Aviv.

  116. ATBOTL says:

    Look at this zio-stooge pretending to be one of us. No one is fooled. You support ZOG policies and you support ZOG.

  117. Anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    Hmm Gulf War #1 whose combatants were supposedly the top military in the world against a Third World country, not much to brag about in my book nor probably any other sane man book, but after Vietnam I suppose anything will do.

  118. @ATBOTL

    Russia looks stupid when they announce things that don’t exist yet. Compare this to how the American stealth planes were revealed only after they were operational.

    I think you missed our new “whitey free” moon mission.

    • Replies: @notbe
  119. Farhad says:

    USA! USA! USA!!!
    rah rah rah!!!
    (happy now?)

  120. Max Payne says:

    While I don’t deny the capabilities of these new pieces of hardware I suspect the new flash fighter is the lack of customers for the initial Su-57. The interchangeable parts between the two platforms is appealing militarily but also a sign of attempting to absorb pipelines in restructuring a program.

    Iran seems content on mass producing F-5E/F clones. China is going its own route. India is India. Turkey is NATO which is not something you ignore. Vietnam & North Korea is next to China which is going to see push back over foreign suppliers offering hi tech weapons. Brazil is in CIA control zone ‘gamma’. The list of customers grows short. And if China decides to enter the stealth figher export market (which will happen), offering a figher with 80% of the capability for 25% of the price what then?

    So what do you do? Restructure the entire program trying to absorb as many interchangable parts as you can. See if South Africa, the gulf Arabs or Pakistan might be interested in a more economical version. Maybe if a client orders a block of Su-75 they can upsell a wing of Su-57s.

    Now if Russia can pump these bad boys out within a short time to make it feasible for sale during a crisis they are onto real gold. If a country can put a down payment and in a year get the first batch to train on that would be a game changer internationally.

    But knowing Russias past flip-flopping on weapons sales (ie Iran, China, NK, etc) its gonna be a hard upsell.

  121. @Ray Caruso

    The cost of US weapons systems is inflated 100 times in order to enrich military contractors and Jew moneymen…

    And former procurement officers and their commanders, who are richly rewarded after their service with well-paying jobs at the defense contractor as their “thorty pieces of silver” for selling their country down the river.

  122. Joe Wong says:

    Was there a starvation by Stalin of Ukrainians in the Holodmor? The lies fabricated by the West is mind boggling, beyond common sense can comprehend. Just based on the huge scope of a few West’s lies about WMD in Iraq, 45-100 millions starvation death caused by the Great Leap Forward, Tienanmen Square massacre, Genocide and forced labor in Xinjiang, COVID-19 originated in China, Genocide in Kosovo, “I am a Ukrainian”, etc. It makes people wonder how much truth is in the story of “starvation by Stalin of Ukrainians?”

    The West has been lying to the world, and cheating and stealing from the world since they could sail out of the Mediterranean Sea, “starvation by Stalin of Ukrainians” could be just a needle in a sea of haystacks of lies fabricated by the West.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  123. Joe Wong says:

    The American said anything that has a fuselage, a pair of wings and some kind of propulsion engine is a technology stolen from the American.

  124. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    not a second too late

    I don’t think this writer’s native language is English.

    Nor logic.

  125. @GomezAdddams

    Really? Bandera wanted to free his country from Soviet occupation so he allied with the Germans. He was a patriot.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    , @AKAHorace
  126. @NavyBrat

    Can any creature wank like a Yank?

  127. Anon[301] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    I got my used Beetle in the fall of 1975 for \$300. It of course needed some work. A guy who worked with me referred me to a German mechanic who used to be a tank mechanic in the German Army. He never spoke of his experiences but some of his VW costumers told me that when a vehicle went “ting a ling” he knew exactly what the problem was. Anyway, the Beetle got some new parts first of all a new floor on the drivers side, new wiper motor, shocks and wiring, exhaust etc. Cost me a whole \$600. Shortly after the heater went but I was shown how a roll of toilet paper soaked in methylated spirits and lit heated up the whole cabin LOL. That worked for a few days until the replacement part was delivered. Try that on the current crop of German cars ! Roll up windows and rubber mats. Also this guy was not a greedy fuck but charged me no labour, I dont know why, and showed me how to do basic maintenance. A far cry from my present mechanic who expects to be paid \$130 an hour even if he scratches his nuts.

    The second car was a Pontiac Sunbird but the thing would start with difficulty on a cold morning and there was a design problem with the chip that controlled the choke. The car would rev alarmingly high when started. In addition on icy roads it would be all over the place.

    Never had any of this with the Beetle. When they reintroduced the car I was aghast at the electronics and the price. Too bad the President of VW does not drag out the old specs and reproduce the old model

  128. Rich says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    The fact that the North Vietnamese came crawling to the negotiating table begging for peace means nothing? The reds only took the South 2 years after American withdrawal and a coup that removed the legitimately elected president and installed forces friendly to the communist cause. Truth and reality mean nothing to communists. The world you commies will end up with will not be pleasant, but a historically ignorant people cannot comprehend what’s coming. A real shame.

    • Replies: @Aedib
    , @notbe
    , @Smith
  129. If only Russia would switch to the Roman alphabet their language might become the universal language.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
  130. Andre, thank you for sharing President Putin’s analysis. Such tragedies have long history, going back to Abel’s murder by his own brother. Kyrie, eléison!

    Jeremiah 9
    23 Thus says the Lord:
    “Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom,
    Let not the mighty man glory in his might,
    Nor let the rich man glory in his riches;
    24 But let him who glories glory in this,
    That he understands and knows Me,
    That I am the Lord, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth.
    For in these I delight,” says the Lord.

  131. @Andrei Martyanov

    Vietnam was about controlling the white male population. Afghanistan is being handed over to China. The American people lost but not the oligarchs.

    • Replies: @Begemot
  132. @Proximaking

    Tidal waves from submerged Tsarinas blowing up in strategic locations off the east coast west coast and gulf of mexico…that should take things to the American shores!

  133. Avery says:

    {… is to ignore that they can’t make reliable tootsie rolls. }

    Maybe Ruskies can’t make reliable tootsie rolls*, but they make some very reliable other stuff. So reliable, that US just HAS to buy it from thems Ruskies: they are that good.

    [Why The U.S. Still Has No Viable Alternatives To Russian Rocket Boosters]

    [When it comes to launching top-secret military satellites, the Pentagon relies almost entirely on rocket engines made in Russia. The U.S. has been using Russian rocket boosters for the past 2 decades.]

    [U.S. needs up to 18 more Russian rocket engines: Pentagon]

    [WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Pentagon will need to buy up to 18 more Russian-built RD-180 engines to power rockets carrying U.S. military satellites into space over the next six years or so, Deputy Defense Secretary Robert Work said in an interview on Friday.]

    Over to you, homes.

    * US is definitely #1 in building reliable Tootsie Rolls by the 10s of millions: that’s why morbid obesity and diabetes rates are skyrocketing in US.

    • LOL: Antiwar7
  134. @Ray Caruso

    I love low IQ Blacks…make low grade weapons, ensure US defeat! Sweet!

    But what actually do low IQ Black do in there…the science, drawing boards, technical work, clean up and wash down the low IQ plane/flying weapons when built?

    Low IQ Blacks do not run the show however. I can see that from the power faces up front!

    I mean the Defense Sec is a Nig Nog but what about the defense industry! 99% white, Khazars Up in there! I Don’t see them farming-out their authority to BLM…though even BLM is a Khazar operation

    Whites in charge – that being the case its gets even sweeter, because the White/Khazar hierarchy is then sabotaging the US Defence and war effort by hiring those who cant do anything right, in doing anything right to do that which is right, which they can never accomplish!

    Then again the Khazars for their own state of Israel depends on that same weaponry by the low IQ Nig Nogs for attack/defense f their Israel. so what the hell is going here? They then are even sabotaging their own interest racial/supranational interests in their effort here…hiring low IQ Blacks to build inferior weapons? for what reason?

    Pheeeeew! My head hurts here! Pheeeeew again!

    It is either the Blacks up in there making-weapons are very good at weapons-making, or they aren’t up in there making weapons at all?

    racist clown sneaking in attacks seemingly focused elsewhere!

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  135. Begemot says:
    @Naughtius Maximus

    Were only white boys drafted to fight in Vietnam?

  136. Seraphim says:

    I will always come back to the prescient Bismarck’s thoughts about Russia:
    ”Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the decomposition of the main forces of Russia, which is based on millions of Russian … The latter, even if they break up international treaties, just as quickly re-connect with each other, like pieces of a particle of mercury …”
    ””Do not expect that once taken advantage of Russia’s weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come – they will not rely on the Jesuit agreement you signed, that supposedly justify your actions. They are not worth the paper it is written. Therefore, with the Russians you should use fair play or no play. ”

  137. @Ukraine Tiger

    And maybe Poland can retake Lvov and Belarus their border areas.

  138. @Irish Savant

    Bandera wanted to free his country from Soviet occupation so he allied with the Germans. He was a patriot.

    Any person in any country allying him/herself with a foreign power is a traitor by definition.

  139. @CyrillicSucks1

    If only Russia would switch to the Roman alphabet their language might become the universal language.

    Regardless of alphabet, Russian is too complex (about 10 times more grammar than English) to be a universal language.

  140. @gT

    They did a pretty good job on the propaganda front with RT. No other country outside the Western axis has a voice inside the West like that. Others have tried and failed.

  141. Aedib says:

    Don’t worry. Taliban will spend much less than two years to take the whole Afghanistan. The timeline will not be measured in years; it will be measured in months after the NATO “withdrawal”.

  142. notbe says:

    jeeezus get a life, the fact that n vietnam won over s vietnam-a state that had a much bigger population than the north, AND the us means something was wrong with american analysis, strategy and tactics

    of course, the us would give n vietnam a bloody nose-in every battle the us dominated the sky but no the war should not have ended with a viet victory

    the us had every advantage including man power if you count the gigantic s vietnamese army and air force

    how can you lose a war where you control the sky, control all the ocean approaches, have an integrated mutually-supporting armed forces and your army is way bigger than that of your enemy and you actually start it first

    the us lost-it shouldnt have what were the reasons? and no it wasnt that the us was stabbed in the back by hollywood celebrities

    there were many reasons- there was, and still is, something wrong with us analysis, strategy and tactics that needs to be researched and your image of the n vietnamese crying and crawling back to the negotiating table aint gonna help with this research

    oh and the proclivity of americans to regard their enemies as incompetent isnt going to help i mean i just read on unz that some americans actually thought that 90 percent of russian was stolen from the west

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Replies: @Rich
  143. Iva says:

    I do not feel compassion for Ukrainians. During WWII Ukrainians collaborated with Germans Nazis. German death camp in Treblinka 100 km east of Warsaw were run by Ukrainians and Germans.
    You worry about Stalin starving Ukrainian ? Ask about 50,000-60,000 Poles killed in Wolyn by Ukrainian UPA Army between 1943-45.

    • Troll: Publius 2
    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  144. notbe says:
    @Alfred Muscaria

    exactly! just like reagans star wars program-what exactly happened to that? how many of those satellites went into orbit? please name me one star wars satellite that actually was launched in the twenty year sdi program-just one oh and can you tell how much was invested in sdi over those twenty years-it should be easy to find

  145. Saxon says:

    They won’t shoot down the planes invading Syrian airspace probably because Putin is in with the Chabad guys. This is also why even though Ukrainians are indeed genetically the same people as real genetic ethnic Russians, I would be real uneasy joining Russia if I were them.

  146. Fox says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    You need to find a new compass for orienting yourself in the present world. Shouting slogans wont give you mental clarity.
    All in all it seems that prior to the Bolshevik Russian who left a highly unfavorable .impression upon the Ukrainians, Russian presence was not gladly accepted, hence the desire for independence from the Russian Empire, then and now. This independence was twice made possible by Germany in the last century. Why should they not keep in good memory their time of freedom from Russia, Russian ideology or other foreign ideologies?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  147. notbe says:
    @36 ulster

    boyds work was brilliant so yes surely the sukhoi designers kept him in mind

    the problem with boyd is that he valued lightness and simplicity, for defendable rational reasons, over almost all else the f16 is a great plane because it bloated a bit thus making it a valuable fighter bomber if they kept boyds original vision it would have been too specialized as a day time only dogfighter instead of the dual all-weather fighter and bomber it is boyd hated dual capability

    it would have been an interesting dogfight to consider- a real mig 23, not the monkey model, and a boyd original f16 each had advantages and disadvantages i would give it to the mig in long range missile interception but as the f16 gets into the sidewinder and gatling gun envelope the advantage is with the f16

    not to negate boyd but there are tough design decisions at play, currently long range detection and ability to fire a lot of long range independent missiles rapidly seems to be the main factor in design
    after all technology has come a long way since boyd and his fighter mafia

    but yes you are right , it seems, that the ability to get into a furball needs to be incorporated into design and tactics-after all you never know thus boyds work is still relevant

    the ability to get into a furball is sadly lacking in the f35-oh but the feeling is that the f35 will never be defeated because american technology will be first rate for millenia to come so why bother with dogfighting

  148. Seraphim says:

    Can anyone stop you to make a fool of yourself? You don’t know history.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  149. notbe says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    the russians have not produced that many fighters since the cold war their 1 and now a half a fighter generation 5 fighters but the europeans have produced 1 the french 1 the swedes 1 -none being generation 5 and thus obsolete and the us 2 generation 5 fighters
    the russians have not produced that many tanks since the cold war their 1 but the french 0 the brits 0 the us 0 the germans 0 for the west to design a new tank would take 10 to 15 years
    in missiles the ruskies now have about 7 to 10 missiles that the soviets never dreamed of-the french 0 uk 0 us 0 jeezus the us and the uk are commited to building replacements to their trident ssbns-with new ssbns carrying….the trident missile
    the russians have never been into the aircraft carrier thing there are pros and cons to those things yeah so i myself am suprised when the russians keep making those models-seriously why bother, i guess russian ship designers seeking the huge gains their aerospace counterparts are making just want to feel needed

  150. AKAHorace says:

    Thanks for your comment. In years of commenting on the Unz Review I had never received so many answers. To everyone. but no one in particular I hope that the Ukrainians and Russians establish peaceful relations with mutual respect on both sides.

  151. notbe says:

    for tanks to work you really need air dominance

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Marshal Marlow
  152. @Proximaking

    If only you cared about how hard Russians fought to prevent themselves from being conquered by the cult from judea. Your people were among the last to fall in that genocide.

    You’ll wind up same as us if you keep bowing to ‘muh kang of kangz, (((rabbi yeshu))),’ especially insanely trying to utilize the cult from judea to “fight jews/jewry.” Doesn’t get any more literally mad than that.

    From christianity stemmed liberalism. From liberalism stemmed feminism & all the other garbage. From feminism stemmed Russian women being almost as awful as my women.

    From the christian (aka jewish) idea of “conversion” came “transgenderism.” If you claim to believe you can drip magic water on a jew or black & (effectively) “transform” them into Aryans, all bets are off. Why can’t you also turn a cheetah into a cow? Why can’t an adult “convert” back into a child & demand you pay his life expenses?

    I remember as a child I actually believed (theological) christianity was “under attack” & that I was “being persecuted” as a christ-traitor, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. To be sure, theological christ-insanity is on the backburner, & sure, it gets mocked (to trigger ppl like you…reverse psychology, “zomg! jews wrote an article attacking muh kang of kangz & ***say*** they’re terribly worried about the ‘threat’ posed by muh ‘white christians’ & this ‘proves’ that they really mean it! If my enemy claims he’s opposed to something, I just take his word for it, despite all actions to the contrary.”), but it is by no means “persecuted.”

    In fact, it’s still tax exempt. In fact, it’s still massively bankrolled & promoted throughout culture. In fact, it’s all over the radio. In fact, films are still being made which essentially present the christian POV as legitimate, even if you find them to not be promoting hard enough submission to the jew volcano demon (((yahweh))) as seems to inspire you (for example, “The Conjuring”).

    In fact, there are more non-Aryan christians than there are Aryan christians. In fact, among Aryan christ-traitors, you’re outnumbered approximately 1 million to 1 (if not worse). In fact, the “pre-subverted” church of judea (spiritually speaking) banned all goyim from usury & exempted jews. The church has been saying, “ye must let jews abuse you with usury, but ye shall be burned at the stake if ye try usury” for centuries. The “pre-subverted” church repeatedly came to the rescue whenever schizophrenic christianized Aryans finally couldn’t take the contradictions anymore & tried fighting back.

    Why would jews want to “destroy” (much less “fear” or “hate”) a cult of their own making which lets them drip water on themselves & declare themselves “ex jews” whenever they feel the heat?

    They wouldn’t. They don’t. Try to grow up.

    Make your choice, Team White, or Team Jew.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
    , @Bill
  153. AKAHorace says:

    I do not feel compassion for Ukrainians. During WWII Ukrainians collaborated with Germans Nazis. German death camp in Treblinka 100 km east of Warsaw were run by Ukrainians and Germans.

    I read much of Bloodlands. My main conclusion was that a lot of people did horrible things in that era and that in the same circumstances I cannot be sure what I would have done.

  154. AKAHorace says:
    @Irish Savant

    Really? Bandera wanted to free his country from Soviet occupation so he allied with the Germans. He was a patriot.

    A misguided patriot. If the Germans had won they would have dealt with the Ukraine pretty ruthlessly.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
    • Replies: @Marshal Marlow
    , @Avery
    , @A.z
  155. @AKAHorace

    It was the racist supremacist global Jewish satanic slave empire dictatorship which exterminated 66 million Russians, Ukrainians, Armenians etc. etc. not Russians.

    The famine explains much of the later collaboration with the Nazis.

    No the the racist supremacist global Jewish satanic slave empire dictatorship was still running the Soviet Union with their psycho stooge Stalin so Ukies figured wrongly what do they have to lose by siding with Hitler, not knowing Hitler was another Zio stooge in the process for creating Israel to greatly strengthen the global Jewish empire via the Zio Nazi Havar pact, while murdering another 30 million Soviet citizens and over 15 million other Europeans.

    Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called “full Jews” SERVED IN THE GERMAN MILITARY WITH ADOLF HITLER’S KNOWLEDGE AND APPROVAL
    So are the Times of Israel and Haretz lying
    about this? Are they anti Jewish? Don’t take my word for it as nothing beats
    the voluntary confession. Who tells the truth on this board???


    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded German’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of Norther Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war. One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Mitch’s Jewish identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
    In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.”

    Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by German soldiers of Hitlers Rabbi, the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939. Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to Germany from the United States.
    Schneerson was assisted by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.

    Two field marshals, (God knows how many Jews they killed) Fifteen generals, (God knows how many Jews they killed) Two full generals, (God knows how many Jews they killed) Eight lieutenant generals, (God knows how many Jews they killed) Five major generals, “commanding up to 100,000 troops In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war. One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.

    Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers” is Price’s first Holocaust-related work. The idea for the film was triggered by a book published in 2002 by a young historian, Bryan Mark Rigg: “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military.” After reading a book review in The New York Times, Price’s friend Ilan Seidner told him, “We should do a film about it.”
    Werner Goldberg a Jew, for example there was a picture of Goldberg in uniform appeared in a Nazi recruitment advertisement in 1939 depicting “The Ideal German Soldier.” Jews as they ideal Nazis

    Arno Spitz, a German paratroop officer who was awarded three Iron Crosses for bravery, When captured by American troops at the end of the war, however, he quickly informed them that his Jewish father had fled to the U.S. and settled in Los Angeles. “You can’t take me prisoner, my father is an American Jew,” he argued. “This is the first time my Jewish ancestry came into play,” he says in the film
    It turns out, for example, that the definition of “Aryan” and “Jew” was not so rigid. The film notes that some well-placed Mischlinge received “German blood certificates” declaring them to be “Aryan.”

    Havar pact Zio Nazi alliance.

    In any fair court that actually listened to real evidence (from sources such as the Israel Times, the Jerusalem Post etc.) it is very easy to prove the Nazi racist supremacist Jewish alliance and that it was mostly the Nazi Jewish army that killed Jews as part of that alliance, under the orders of the Rothschild’s, they killed Jews unless said Jews moved to Palestine. Any ship carrying Jews that tried to go to Britain, the USA Canada would be sent back and accepted by Germany unless it went to palestine.

    The Rothschild banks even seized the financial assets of Jews in Swiss banks which is also well documented, of German Jews etc. killed in the holocaust for refusing to go to Palestine.
    To put the size of Hitlers massive, huge, Jewish Nazi army in context, the size of the entire British Armed Forces – by numbers today is around 144,000 trained active personnel. Comprising British Army, Royal Navy, Royal Marines and the Royal Air Force – the Armed Forces is a huge operation,

    So Hitlers massive, huge, gigantic Jewish Nazi army which ran the holocaust was bigger then the entire UK armed forces which are ranked as the 5th most powerful armed forces on the planet and the Jewish Nazi army was bigger then that 150 k to 144 k for the UK .

  156. @Andrei Martyanov

    Hey Andrei, are you the author by the same name? I just want to thank you for writing “Losing military supremacy…”. I read it (well, listened to it) last month and kept thinking about it and had to re-read it a week later. The topic was illuminating and the narrator was excellent – though even he couldn’t inject much interest when reading out the formula and table referred to in the early part of the book.

    I went looking for your other books but unfortunately Losing military supremacy is the only title available on Audible. I hope you and your publisher found the exercise sufficiently profitable to record your other titles.

    On the down side, you failed to convince me to read War & Peace. No one has that much time!

    Thanks again, Steve.

  157. @AKAHorace

    Yep, that’s what the apologists neglect to mention. The soviets saved every man woman and child in eastern europe.

  158. anaccount says:

    None of these weapon systems will make a difference if Russia rots from the inside out via creeping Western culture, especially social media like Facebook. I have no idea why Russia allows this, it’s so obvious.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  159. Thim says:

    And Putler had to back down on his forced vaccination jihad. Interesting development. I believe the Russian people have had enough of Putler. He needs to go away.

  160. “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, murdered 3 times as many Christian Europeans as his Zio ally HItler.

    Nothing beats the multiple voluntary confessions. I present irrefutable real evidence from Israeli sources. I am not saying anything none of it is my words at all.

    Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself. Again nothing beats the voluntary confessions.

    I suggest you study the Israeli media. I can give you the sites to go to. It is where I get almost all my info. You’ll see them admitting things that would never make it into the Jewish owned American / Western media, and if you’re not up on the Zionist,
    racist, supremacist, global Jewish Satanic slave empire dictatorship,and their rantings of hatred and racism for all Goyim and bragging of their murdering and genocide of hundreds of millions of goyim and their total control of countries like the
    USA, Britain France, Germany etc. in their global empire, it can be quite enlightening, indeed.

    So tell me, are the Israeli media, Are the Israeli media, the Times of Israel Y Net News, the Jerusalem Post etc. top rabbis, Jewish historians,Tel Aviv University
    etc. lying, Are they anti-Jewish??

    Tnetnews is Israel’s most comprehensive, authoritative daily source in English for breaking
    news and current events from Israel and the Jewish world and they admit the 66 million murdered in the Soviet Union by racist supremacist Jews .

    The Greatest Mass Murderers of all Time were Jews, says Jewish Columnist,7340,L-3342999,00.html


    Racist supremacist Jews killed 66 million Goyims in the Soviet Union.

    We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

    Sever Plocker|Published: 12.21.06 , 23:35

    Here’s a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90
    years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.
    Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU,
    later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

    We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments,
    executions, and mass death at Gulags.

    Entire peoples, population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists,”opposition members” who were defined completely randomly, and

    Countless members of the Communist party itself.
    In his new, highly praised book “The War of the World, “Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University’s Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist
    violence was unique in that it was directed internally.

    Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined “terror officials,” cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.

    ll these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union’s archives have not yet been fully opened to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD’s and KGB’s service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of “How could it have happened to us?” As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.

    And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the “bloodthirsty dwarf.”

    Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book “Stalin: Court of the Red
    Star”, Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force,
    Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.

    Stalin’s close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar
    Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the “first Stalinist” and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao’s terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.

    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We’ll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD’s special department and the organization’s chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv

    University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a “carnival of mass murder,” “fantasy of purges”, and “essianism of evil.” Turns out that Jews too, when they become
    captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.

    The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and “Soviet people.” Therefore, we find it easy to ignore
    their origin and “play dumb”: What do we have to do with them? But let’s not forget them.

    My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a
    person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

    Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of “our hangmen,” who served the Red Terror with
    loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin.

    Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Speaking from personal experience as a Gulag prisoner,
    Solzhenitsyn gave a candid account of Jews in charge of the Soviet prison camps in his book, Two Hundred Years Together. According to his observations, Jews
    made up a clear preponderance in the Gulag administration and in the early Bolshevist government, saying that of the 22 ministers in the first Soviet government three were Russian, one Georgian, one Armenian and 17 were Jews. In
    addition, he points out, from personal experience once again, that “two thirds of the Kiev Cheka” (secret police) were Jews. Is Y-net news lying? Are they
    anti Jewish.
    Jews enslaving blacks

    Cynthia McKinney US Lawmakers Forced to Sign Pledge to Support Israel

    • Replies: @antibeast
  161. @ben sampson

    I assume your exceptionally idiotic post was the product of life-threatening drunkenness. In case you’re still alive:

    Much of Israel’s weaponry is self-produced and much of the rest is heavily modified or hail from a less corrupt era, such as fighters designed in the 1970s. Every recent major US weapons program produced has been dysfunctional and stricken by enormous cost overruns.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @ben sampson
  162. Seraphim says:

    You are in the same category.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  163. @notbe

    Exactly, it all comes back to control of the air. Especially in the era of cheap drones.

    • Agree: Alfred
  164. notbe says:
    @Paul Greenwood

    i would take anything rolls royce says about russian engines with a grain of salt why? because they are the COMPETITION its just being human
    seriously dont believe what a competitor says about the other guy
    the fact that rolls royce says that russian engines are very good (im sure when you were talking to the rr man he said that rr engines were excellent-just being human( but they need more maintance means the situation around rus engines is actually much better then we are being told

  165. @Anonymous

    Not sure if you’re serious, but Indians do so many of the tech jobs in the US for one reason: American education is now in the hands of liberal cockroaches and consequently can no longer produce competent tech graduates. Indians aren’t all that smart. Anyone who uses the very popular coding help site Stack Overflow notices that Indians ask stupid questions, make stupid suggestions to others who ask questions, and do it all in execrable English despite the fact it is an official language in their country, as well as the main language of technical education. Then there is the fact, obvious not just to techies but to everyone else as well, that India is a nearly Africa-level shithole. “American” software gets shittier every year and it’s no coincidence.

    • Agree: Alfred
  166. Anonymice says:

    True talk that. Sometimes from the frequency of Israeli strikes and the near total absence of Syrian ones in the other direction, I’m tempted to think that the Russians may actually be in Syria to provide the Israelis with coordinates of select Syrian targets to enable Israel to strike at will.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  167. @PsychelonB

    Everything in your post is either false or distorted. It would not be worth it going through all of it, but this falsehood stands out among the rest:

    From christianity [sic] stemmed liberalism.

    It was the so-called Enlightenment that gave birth to liberalism, and the Enlightenment was a movement away from Christianity. The Powdered Wig Gang (aka the Founding Fathers) were to a man fans of the Enlightenment. That explains why they gave citizenship to Jews at a time no other country did. Being “enlightened”, they believed Christianity was no better than other religions, so why should Jews be excluded?

    For 2,000 years, being a Jew has meant rejecting Jesus Christ as the Messiah. That is to say, ever since the Second Temple was destroyed, Jews have defined themselves by their opposition to Christianity. To say that to be a Christian is to be on “Team Jew” is not only false but the opposite of the truth. And understanding that is purely a matter of historical knowledge and logic. It requires no belief in the truth of Christianity. By the same token, believing what you believe requires a great deal of both ignorance and irrationality.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @anonymous
  168. @notbe

    Interesting that you think Americans should think of Russians as enemies. When they were Soviets, sure. Not since.

    It would be nice to think the Russians think enough of us to consider us enemies, but Putin seems wiser than that.

  169. I am honestly very sympathetic to Russia. But I am sceptical about claims of the efficiency of Russian weapons systems.

    In recent times we have seen videos of Russian Pantsir systems being destroyed in Libya and Syria by Turkish UAVs.

  170. Seraphim says:

    This is more significant than the ‘permission’ given to Germany. Even the Kaganess of the New Land Ukraine, Viki said that Ukraine would be at more risk without the US-German agreement on Nord Stream 2. Who ‘blinken’ first?

  171. Smith says:

    Meh, I’m more of a tank/armored vehicles guy.

  172. Schuetze says:

    Yet another smacking rebuttal by the mighty Seraphim. lol.

    Since this time you are so lazy that you cannot even mention a jewish authored book of jewstory from your unread bookshelf, let alone enter some relevant section or link to an online excerpt, I will assume that you take offense with my making light of Putin’s assertion that the Red Russian Rapist Army “liberated” eastern Europe.

    The only things the Russian invaders liberated was all the middle class and upper classes of their property, all the factories of their equipment, all the girls of their virginity, and all resistance of either its life or its freedom. The pattern was already clear in 1939 in Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Bessarabia and Bukovina when the Red Steamroller marched in and either murdered or exported to the gulags all resistance. I find it amazing how Russians and Jews love to pretend that the “pogroms” of the various ethnic peoples of the Baltics against the communists and jews upon liberation by the Wehrmacht in 1941 was somehow outrageous. Russians and Jews are alike in this, they always remember what was done to them, but never why.

    This mayhem is also is what happened to Ukraine during their war of independence from 1921-1923, which they lost to the Communist Jews, and subsequently they were terrorized and all the middle class and elites either murdered, gulaged or forced to flee. As if that wasn’t enough, the Russians then starved millions of Ukrainian farmers and others to death 10 years later. Today, Putin fanboy’s treat Holodomor truthers the same way Turks treat Armenian Genocide truthers and the same way Jews treat Holohoax truthers. They simply cannot accept the truth, so we are continually subjected to narratives of lies like Putin’s “history lesson”.

    The one event the really captures the essence of what Putin’s hero Joe Stalin did to Eastern Europe is of course Katyn Forest. After Germany defeated the Polish Army and was marching into Warsaw the courageous Red Russian Rapist Army stabbed Poland in the back. Most of the military and its officer corps had retreated to Eastern Poland (now occupied by Belorussia). The betrayed Poles at first thought the Red Army was coming to their assistance and did not resist, but the harsh reality soon set in. Stalin rounded up all the Polish officers and all the Polish intelligentsia, who had fled East from the Wehrmacht, and sent them off to the Gulag. Later, after getting their butts kicked by the tiny Finnish army, Stalin panicked and murdered thousands upon thousands of the “best” Poles (how Talmudic) at Katyn Forest.

    But Putin’s hero Joe Stalin was just getting started. After the Wehrmacht liberated France from Judeo-Masonic control, the Free Polish Army under Sikorsky started negotiations with Stalin to form a Polish Army that they believed was still in the Gulag. Ooops, Stalin had murdered them already. In 1942 the Wehrmacht discovered the graves of the “best” Poles and brought in the Red Cross who determined that the corpses were old and that the NKVD had committed the murders. So next Churchill and Stalin started their coverup of the Katyn Forest genocide from General Sikorsky who was asking inconvenient questions. Churchill sent Sikorsky off to Lebanon to visit his troops who were bravely fighting for the English Empire, and on Sikorsky’s return trip they had him assassinated in order to keep the Katyn lie hidden.

    But it gets even better. At Nuremburg England and Russia framed the Germans for Katyn and then went on to murder honorable German officers for these war crimes and their coverup committed by England and Russia. I deliberately say Russia here because as long as Russians won’t accept the gravity of their crimes against humanity, then they are coconspirators with the USSR.

    This massive lie about Katyn also played a major role in the Holocaust fraud that has its roots in Nuremburg, and the entire planet is still paying dearly for this today. The Plandemic has its roots in this very fraud. Putin is still lying about this, and loves parading around with Jews at “Holocaust” memorial openings.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  173. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Free discussion? Try discussion, period.

    All that goes on at the Saker’s blog is shills like “Larchmonter” setting the narrative, and other shills like the infantile idiot “Nussiminen” telling off anyone who disagrees.

    All I see at the Saker’s blog is: Russia is the bestest country ever!!! RUSSIA NUMBER 1!!!!!, You wish you had a leader like Putin!!!!, Lavrov is the greatest diplomat of all time!!!, Every country sucks except Russia and China!!!!

    Meanwhile, neither the Saker nor the shill Larchmonter or any of the others live in Russia, because it is such a corrupt shithole.

    If Russia is doing so well, have some class ffs, and stfu about it. No need to rub everyone’s noses in it. Why the USA NUMBER 1!!!! attitude, if the whole point of the blog is to show the USA in a bad light?

    But then, if Russia is actually doing so well, why are so many Russians immigrating away? Russians made up the largest immigrant nationality to Finland last year. They are, for the most part, criminals and drug dealers, and they are extremely anti-Finnish and Russian-supremacist minded, and they absolutely do not even dream of assimilating. They categorically hate the Finns!

    So, why do they come to Finland, if their country is so great?

    Russia is just another pathetic Zionist bitch. And the Saker is losing his mind. His latest posts and comments on his site reveal him to be nothing but an angry old man, who probably doesn’t even write his own articles. He just publishes what the Russian state propaganda appartus tells him to publish.

    And his overweight arrogant cunty assistant, amarynth, is probably the most dislikable woman I’ve ever seen in my life.

    I wish the shills from the Saker’s blog would come here for a real debate. Without moderators censoring anyone who disagrees with them, they will be cut to shreds, which is, of course, why there is no Larchmonter or Auslander present here.

    And they all wonder why everyone in the world hates Russians. It’s because you’re such assholes!

    • Replies: @Cossack Boris
  174. @Joe Wong

    Was there a starvation by Stalin of Ukrainians in the Holodmor?

    Yes there was just as there was an even bigger starvation engineered by Mao in his great leap forward. See when you violently change the way food was produced for thousands of years you will get mass starvation. There’s an entire ecosystem producing food from the seeds of the crop to the food on the plate which took thousands of years to perfect. When you change that overnight you get man made famines. This isn’t politics this is commonsense.

    • Replies: @antibeast
    , @Joe Wong
  175. @Vasilios

    You could always dump the external tanks on some rice farmers, assuming Yanqui is on the wrong continent.

  176. @Andrei Martyanov

    Muy señor Notlob is rumored to have muttered “And we could have not-lost the US war in Afghanistan even faster if we had simply “run away from it.”

  177. Rich says:

    How can you lose a war you’re not fighting? The US withdrew 2 years before N Vietnam defeated the South. The government that took control after the coup that removed Nixon was favorable to the reds and refused to provide promised support to the South. It all seems pretty obvious to me, but you long hairs want to jump up and down shouting that the US lost. Facts and reality are never important to commies, only rhetoric and propaganda matter.

  178. Alfred says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Much of Israel’s weaponry is self-produced and much of the rest is heavily modified or hail from a less corrupt era, such as fighters designed in the 1970s.

    How do you explain this? Did the Israelis manage to improve them?

    Israel activates third squadron of F-35 fighter jets

  179. antibeast says:

    Mao’s terror in China? What terror?

  180. antibeast says:

    What nonsense. If the Great Leap Forward was so bad, then how come China outperformed India in life expectancy not only during this period but during the ENTIRE period of Mao’s rule from 1949 to 1976? Here’s a graph showing the life expectancy of China vs India in the post-war period:

  181. Avery says:

    { If the Germans had won they would have dealt with the Ukraine pretty ruthlessly.}

    In fact, after the initial euphoria, the collaborators who greeted the German invaders with flowers, quickly found out that Nazis considered them just as Untermenschen as the rest of the Slavs, and treated them just as harshly and brutally. That is why they eventually ended up fighting the Nazi invaders, like everybody else.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Disagree: Alfred Muscaria
  182. Reaper says:

    About Su-75:

    It is cheap and fairly ok.

    With a “limited range” – considering Russian territory size needs to be far too many air bases for operation. -> For that even with the cheap production the Russian economy/ industrial production hardly can keep pace with NATO.

    To make an aircraft “carrier ready” which have a top speed of nearly 2 mac -> seems hardly possible.
    Anyway Russians never was carrier professionals, as their force are mainly land based.
    Also Russians lack behind in air refueling, so again must rely more on aircraft bases on land.

    As conclusion:
    The Su-75 most likely will end up as defense force (intercept attempts) based around:
    – Vladivostok
    – Northern Fleet Joint Strategic Command
    – Southern Military District (mainly Rostov-on Don centre/ Sevastopol)
    – Western Military District

    What seems real is about 150-250 aircraft in service in 2027-2035 if they push production.
    So it is about defensive capabilities.

  183. Reaper says:

    The US withdrew because was incapable to achieve victory in Vietnam.

    Viet Cong cannot do much agains a well equiped regular army in open field battles. The well equiped regular army cannot do much agains them as soon as they move out from large cities and get down from their hill bases.

    That was an attrition war and in that type usually the one who is home wins.

  184. @Rich

    What? I’m totally agreeing with you! They follow Nazi ideology, use Nazi symbols, behave in ways indistinguishable from Nazis, venerate a man who collaborated with Nazis, and hold pride parades for Waffen SS Nazis, but they’re absolutely not Nazis! I said so clearly! Are you hard of reading?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @RestiveUs
  185. Baora says: • Website

    An equally important event of the MAKS 2021 air show is the demonstration flights of the Russian civil aircraft MC 21. What did the Western countries not do to avoid this aircraft – the topic of material for dozens, if not hundreds of pages – materials science, avionics, blackmail and bribery of developers. You can make a dozen real spy films about how the plane was developed. And these will be real stories, not James Bond comedies. And now the plane is flying:

    • Agree: notbe
  186. @Sparkon

    They seem to be distinctly different aircraft.

  187. @AnonfromTN

    Yes, the six grammatical cases alone are a huge deterrent. At least immune German you don’t have to learn the gender of every noun separately, the ending is usually enough.

    • Replies: @Plato's Dream
  188. In his article Putin states:

    First of all, I would like to emphasize that the wall that has emerged in recent years between Russia and Ukraine, between the parts of what is essentially the same historical and spiritual space, to my mind is our great common misfortune and tragedy.

    Then he goes on to blame “our own mistakes” for this. He should have just said “ZioNazis are our misfortune” and been done with it. He mentions Nazis repeatedly but I don’t think he mentions the Zionists even once. The Zionists are the ones trying to wreck his project to save Syria from dismemberment a la Israel’s Oden-Yinon plan and they’re the same ones allied with the NeoNazis in Ukraine trying to open a second front for the Russian armed forces there.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  189. Smith says:

    Funnily enough, one of the conditions of said negotiation was the American immediate with-drawal from Vietnam.

    So when the americans has done Rolling Thunder and signed that agreement, they already acknowledged their lost and run for the hills.

    But bah, the average murican never learns.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  190. Rahan says:

    How about the Chinese aircraft carriers?

    Would it be fair to say that they are rebranded jazzed up Soviet aircraft carriers, or should we rather treat them as a wholly new product?

    Similarly with the Type-96 and Type-98 tanks. Have those drifted far enough from their Soviet origins to count as a separate new species?

  191. Seraphim says:

    How do you expect to be taken seriously when you call Nuremberg ‘Nuremburg’?

    • LOL: Schuetze
  192. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    He doesn’t name the Zionists, because if he were to do that, Russia would be placed under real sanctions, Jewish sanctions, or he will just be removed from power.

    Putin does not wield enough power to say the word Zionist out loud in public, let alone chant Death to Israel. Nevermind actually going up against Israel.

    If Putin hurts one hair on Israel’s head, his career is over.

    • Agree: Schuetze
  193. sarz says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    It’s great that Russia helped Syria shoot down seven out of eight Israeli missiles. That’s not real deterrence, however. Presumably, the Russian systems can shoot down the attacking planes. So why does this not happen?

    I’m not an American, so a snarky answer on why America sucks will not hurt my feelings. How about an honest answer why Russia does this? It might be to Russia’s credit and it might not.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Height_776
    , @L.K
    , @Anonymous
  194. @Ray Caruso

    Are Black tech graduates responsible for the inferior state of American Aviation weaponry discussed on the thread, compared to the new Russian creations that appear to be leave their American competition in the dust!?

    That was the claim! and it was claimed with no attempt at providing case and proof… proven to no extent at all…just a claim!

    I will make another claim: that there appears to be a serious, involved, intricate and deep state of social decline in America society that Black Americans are part of but did not initiate, or create and set up over the relevant long period of time in question.

    Black Americans by their general social state are in a revolutionary state and position themselves, that can help to revolutionize American society and set it up positively once more

    I cannot say the same for Caruso…and clearly the section of American society he hails from.

    I assume that Caruso is an older privileged white male of higher level social standing than most Black Americans, whom by word here on the Unz is as deeply responsible for American decline as anyone, and as such is not revolutionary himself, and cannot contribute to any positive social change in the US, that may help cleanse the US of general social decline and get itself into positive current existential shape

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  195. antibeast says:

    Would it be fair to say that they are rebranded jazzed up Soviet aircraft carriers, or should we rather treat them as a wholly new product?

    China’s first aircraft carrier (Type 001) — Liaoning — was indeed a refurbished Ukrainian-built aircraft carrier called ‘Varyag‘ while its second aircraft carrier (Type 002) — Shandong — was the first to be built domestically following the same ‘ski-jump’ design of the Liaoning. China is currently building its third aircraft carrier (Type 003) with a flat top design, the first one using CATOBAR and EM launch catapults.

    To answer your question: the Liaoning is obviously a ‘rebranded jazzed up Soviet aircraft carrier’ while the Shandong is a home-made copy of the Liaoning. But the third aircraft carrier under construction is Type 003 which is completely different from the first two and should be considered a ‘wholly new product”.

  196. antibeast says:

    Stupid gringos will never admit defeat even when they have lost the war. They will just mutter some nonsense like: “We didn’t lose because we just left the @#\$%& place! Nuke ’em! And they go back to some shitty Trailer Park where they will either grab a pistol and shoot themselves or overdose on Fentanyl.”

  197. @AKAHorace

    Stalin, a Georgian, was as much a foreigner to Russians as to Ukrainians.

  198. Avery says:

    { the Russian systems can shoot down the attacking planes}

    As has been pointed out by numerous other posters @UNZ at various threads, Israeli jets stay out of Syrian airspace and fire missiles into Syrian targets from afar. Also, pointed out by numerous other posters, these strikes are all dog&pony, smoke&mirrors show: as other posters state, there is no real damage; mostly cosmetic.

    My take is this (as I have related in other posts, other threads): everybody’s got a hard-on for Israel, and wants Russia to scratch their itch with Russian blood and treasure: what for? What’s in it for Russia?

    Shooting down Israeli jets by Russians in Syria will be very problematic.
    Yes, I know Israelis engineered a shootdown of Russia IL-19 by (incompetent) Syrians.
    But Putin & Co have to be very, very careful NOT to escalate things in Syria: that’s what US & Israel want: a major incident, so that they can rile up the American sheeple and create a Casus Belli , so US and its flunkies can stay in Syria forever.

    As highly knowledgeable Alexander Mercuris related in a recent podcast, negotiations are already underway between US, Russia, Turkey for every uninvited “guest” to leave Syria and leave the long suffering Syrian people alone.
    Putin & Co goal is to get these invaders out of Syria: all other peripheral issues will be swept aside, as painful as they may be for Russians*.

    So, yeah Russia will take some blows, but Putin & Co are playing the Long Game: always have, and always will. Nothing new: centuries old Russian tradition/character, going back to the Tsars. That is why Russia is still the THE largest country in the world. 2X the size of US, Canada, China,….

    * to wit, NATO “arranged” for the murder of a Russian general and a couple of colonels in Syria by precise mortar attack; a group of Russian medical personnel, nurses were similarly murdered by precise targeting by “unknown parties”. Many, many other provocations: all designed to trigger Russians to overreact. Putin never took the bait.

    • Agree: Alfred, Seraphim
    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  199. @sarz

    First, the Israeli Air Force attacks Syria from the territory of Lebanon. If the Syrian air defenses shoot down an Israeli plane that is in the sky over Lebanon and does not invade Syrian airspace, then Damascus will be exposed as the aggressor.
    Second, Russia was invited to Syria to fight against the terrorist groups of ISIS, and not against Israel. Russia complies with this condition.
    Sorry for my English, it’s not my native language.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  200. Aedib says:

    First consequences of the US’s “victorious withdrawal”: Russia in Talks to Help Tajikistan Build Afghan Border Outpost.

  201. Joe Wong says:

    The US is the leading nation violently change the way food was produced, GMO food is the shiny example that the US violently change the way food was produced, and it did not lead to mass starvation in the US.

    Since your refutal is a fallacy, the starvation by Stalin of Ukrainians must be false and a lie, otherwise you won’t use a fallacy to defend a lie.

  202. @Height_776

    Thats wonderful. Now tell me when some f-16s are blown out of the sky.

    • Replies: @Height_776
  203. @Andrei Martyanov

    You seem to mistakenly believe I’m a fan boy. Im not. I simply want to see evidence of a system doing as it is purportedly designed to do or as we are lied into believing are its “capabilities”. I dont give a rats ass whether its American, British, Chinese, Russian… you name it. Its all bullshit but for the results on the ground. I’m of the mind that in the end it will all fail spectacularly all the while the supporters of this system or that will gin up further excuses for more money for more pie in the sky lies.

  204. Bill says:

    Russia’s response in Crimea looked extremely well planned out to me.

    • Replies: @Garliv
    , @Garliv
  205. Bill says:

    Weird how the internet costume Nazis spend all their time hating on Christianity. Almost as if they work for people who spend all their time hating on Christianity.

    • Agree: Mulegino1, Seraphim
    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  206. @InnerCynic

    when… ? As soon as they fly into the Syrian airspace and if the Syrian air defense deems it necessary to blown out them. Russia was invited to Syria to fight against the terrorist groups of ISIS, and not against Israel. Russia complies with this condition.

  207. Garliv says:

    Not so to me. It seems to have been impulsive once regime change succeeded. A well planned response would have been to prevent fall of pro-Russian government as US/EU were able to instal their stooges who have been giving Moscow sleepless nights. US/EU are actually the ones who call shots there at Russia’s detriment. Russia is reduced to declaring that Ukraine joining Nato is her red line. Indeed these US stooges may yet succeed in triggering a major war.
    All of these shouldn’t have happened had Russia countered with enough propaganda, bribery, support of prkall at Russia’s detriment.

  208. @Fox

    This independence was twice made possible by Germany in the last century.

    That’s a contradiction in terms. When “independence” is made possible by a foreign power, it is dependence. Basically, the slave changes masters while remaining a slave.

    • Replies: @Fox
  209. @Rich

    How can you lose a war you’re not fighting?

    Rooftop evacuation, anyone?

    • Replies: @Rich
  210. Garliv says:

    Not so to me. It seems to have been impulsive once regime change succeeded. A well planned response would have been to prevent fall of pro-Russian government as thereafter US/EU were able to instal their stooges who have been giving Moscow sleepless nights. US/EU are actually the ones who call shots there at Russia’s detriment. Russia is reduced to declaring that Ukraine joining Nato is her red line. Indeed these US stooges may yet succeed in triggering a major war.

    All of these shouldn’t have happened had Russia countered with enough propaganda, bribery, support of pro-Russian government including “strong arm policing” and other soft power tactics. But it seemed like Russia wanted to “respect rights of Ukrainian people” while Nuland & co were distributing cookies, dishing out dollars and blaring all sorts of propaganda that succeeded in paralysing the then government and internationally portraying Russia as “supporter of genocidal regime in Kiev.”

    I understand sometimes Putin has to be cautious and pick his battle wisely but there are times when action is all matters.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  211. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Ukies are wonnabe Nazis, but they don’t measure up by a long chalk. They are too cowardly and venal to be like German Nazis.

  212. Mulegino1 says:

    Anytime you see these types of attacks on historical Christianity, you can be assured that the masters of the mendacious dialectic are, at least to a degree, responsible.

    The Rabbinical/Talmudic religion is in essence an anti-Christian cult of rejection. Christianity did not emerge from it- it actually postdates the establishment of the Christian Church. It is not the authentic inheritor of the religion of the Patriarchs and Prophets of the Old Testament- nor of the Divine promise to Abraham and his descendant. The Old Testament makes no sense without the New as the ultimate unveiling of its meaning and significance for the entire world.

    The history of Europe has, for the past 1700 or so years, been inextricably bound to the Christian Church and Christianity, which have been overwhelmingly responsible for the development of its inimitable cultural, political, scientific and spiritual legacies. The Church was the organism which- as Cardinal Newman put it- possessed the chronic vigor and power of assimilation which made possible the transmission of the best of Hellenic, and Germanic culture into the new, Christian cultural and civilizational synthesis, i.e., Christendom. Christianity was the vital principle of Europe as a unique culture and civilization.

    • Agree: Bill, W
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  213. EugeneGur says:

    Enough with the “Nazi” nonsense.

    It’s the nonsense of the Ukrainian reality. I can’t even imaging what these guys need to do to convince you what they are indeed the Nazis. They declare themselves supporters of the Nazi ideology, quite openly, including the idea of the race of supermen (Ukrainians, of course) and Untermenschen (primarily the Russians). They use the Nazi slogans and symbols, honor the members of the CC Division Galichina as well as of nazi collaborators and mass murderers OUN-UPA. CC is no longer Nazi?

    The Ukrainian nationalists aren’t the boogeyman from 1930s Germany.

    They most certainly not, in spite of all their efforts. They are too stupid, to disorganized and too corrupt. There is a rather vulgar Russian expression that basically means: “Dough beats evil”. In their case, this is definitely true. Ukraine has been unable to build a true Nazi state simply because it has been unable to build any state.

    Calling your opponent a “Nazi” does nothing for your argument.

    Unless, of course, that’s what he/she is.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  214. Decoy says:

    And yet they were able to build a wonderful rail and vehicle bridge to Crimea in just a few years. And please don’t bore us with the “its going to fall down in 30 years” Western propaganda.

  215. Pasaran says:

    Number of use of the N. (azi) word : a zillion time

    Number of informations about the obligatory vaccine bill ordered by Putin : zero.

    GFY, commieshaker.

  216. @ben sampson

    Are Black tech graduates responsible for the inferior state of American Aviation weaponry discussed on the thread, compared to the new Russian creations that appear to be leave their American competition in the dust!?

    That was not the claim. Assuming you’re not simply dishonest, your stating that was the claim is evidence of your poor reading comprehension. The part of my claim that deals with blacks is that minority set-asides help to inflate the cost of the US’s rather ineffective weapons programs, which is a fact well-known to anyone who is informed about the topic.

    I assume that Caruso is an older privileged white male of higher level social standing than most Black Americans

    Since most blacks are afflicted by subhuman intelligence, it’s a feat for someone with a triple-digit IQ not to be of a higher standing than them. The fact is, however, that I’m a younger Latin American immigrant. I am White, though, and proud of it.

    Since we are on the topic, blacks are a plague on the US. I’m not sure what kind of country this would be if sub-Saharan Africans had never darkened these shores, but it certainly would be a better one. The attempt to integrate an alien population of low-average intelligence and undesirable behavioral traits has destroyed the US. The genesis of the country’s corrosive and all-pervasive egalitarian ideology was the mandatory adoption of the lie of black equality in order for one to gain access to the upper and even middle strata of society.

    I castigate Anglos and their civilization assiduously, but the fact they deserve criticism does not alter the fundamental truth about blacks. Indeed, one of the most compelling reasons to criticize Anglos is that most of them remain all too willing to embrace the lie of black equality.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @ben sampson
    , @anonymous
  217. @EugeneGur

    Of course, Ukrainian Nazism is an a funhouse-mirror version of the real thing, one where Slavic untermenschen (according to the original Nazi ideology, not to mine) are the master race and a Jew clown is the Führer. Ukraine is the most ridiculous attempt at a state there ever was. Even Jean-Bédel Bokassa’s shabby “empire” in the bush of central Africa was more respectable. Hopefully, this embarrassment to the White race will soon be history.

  218. Decoy says:
    @Old Brown Fool

    There is no question that the reserve currency status of the USD has enormously benefited the United States. It seems however, that our politicians in Washington D.C. weren’t smart enough to let a good thing go. They got greedy and tried to weaponize ththe dollar and now Russia and China are starting to call our bluff. Most likely the dollar will continue to be the dominant currency for years to come, but on a reduced basis. However, some smart people are predicting a rapid decline and that would devastate our economy.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, Levtraro
    • Replies: @JamesinNM
    , @Old Brown Fool
  219. L.K says:

    Well, one should not have much in the way of expectations when dealing with propagandists…

    In this regard, having dealt in the past with this Martyanov I can say he’s even more blatant than the pitiful Raevsky(Saker).

  220. Fr. John says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    ” Let it be so. Split the country from east of Sumy to west of Odessa. We would all be so much better off.”

    Just like the heartland of the USA and the province of Alberta, want to be free from their oppressive (((MASTERS))) on either the East OR Left Coast!

    If NATO and the JEW SA would merely keep their hegemony in the nations they ALREADY control (yes, Jews, I’m talking to you- Biden kneeling before his Zionist ‘massa,’ and clown boy in Ottawa) we could see, OBJECTIVELY, what a White Heartland Anglo-Saxon America and an Orthodox Nationalist RUS, could do…

    And that scares the Yids senseless. Because it would BE that ‘City on a Hill’ described in the latter chapters of Revelation.

  221. @Agent76

    Yes. Saker’s ilk needs to take that to heart.

  222. @Seraphim

    Hold tight to your fantasy.

  223. @GMC

    If you are correct, then the rodent in the Kremlin should not mind getting completely out of Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova. The problem is, you have little knowledge of what Putin is actually doing and have swallowed his propaganda hook, line, sinker, and fisherman. You’re not alone in that either.

    • Disagree: JamesinNM
    • LOL: Alfred
  224. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick McNally

    How do you not understand a crop failure?

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  225. JamesinNM says:

    Pull the handle, execute the flush.

  226. Rich says:

    I thought you were an educated man? I guess history isn’t your subject. Those film clips you’ve seen were Vietnamese citizens being evacuated. US personnel had been out of the country for quite some time, but a few good men tried to save as many of the Vietnamese people as they could from the vicious reds. Those who managed to make it out avoided rape, murder , re-education camps and more. You probably think the N Vietnamese and the terrorist Viet Cong won the tet offensive, too, right, Professor?

  227. RodW says:

    I agree. It also reveals something about the level of his audience that he doesn’t feel the need to apologise for writing something longer than three paragraphs, and add endless references to pop culture to make it ‘accessible’ (i.e. stupid and incomprehensible).

  228. @Rich

    First, let’s call a spade a spade. A person serving occupying foreign power is called a traitor in any country. Occupiers saving traitors who served them are not called good men in any frame of reference. The people who burned civilians with napalm are terrorists, the people who resisted those criminals are not. The people using chemical weapons (agent orange) are war criminals. Now, try to recount your story in proper terms and see what you get.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Schuetze
  229. @Ray Caruso

    triple digit IQ, commenting on the Unz now writing lead articles! Interesting!

    Reading this stultified straight-jacket prose was terrifying. Oh mi god! this is actually a human being speaking, and about other human beings. Caruso should take a break, come back and read his own prose. Pheeeew!

    My claim stands! Caruso is not a positive, progressive social influence however inconsequential in what are revolutionary American times. His social prognosis looks rather bleak!

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  230. Fox says:

    Apparently, the Ukrainians were eager to cut the ties to Moscow. First in 1918, and after forced re-patriation in 1941. Call it what you will. But if you want to insist, the “liberations” by the hyper-violent West were quite generally not welcome, and I am talking of France and Italy, not to mention Germany.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
  231. @Rich

    Your beloved Americans did not really fight. Americans cannot fight. Only thing American can do is bomb and bomb again. American lost the war when Russians did give Vietnamese Heat seeking missiles and teach Vietnamese how to handle them. After that Americans with tail between legs like dogs were running scared.

    • Disagree: Rich
  232. BTW Nobody noticed.
    This aircraft is designed such way that not only wings but also fuselage is creating uplift.
    That is why this aircraft can carry more payload.
    Soon Americans will copy it.
    So no check mate.

  233. HbutnotG says:

    We had friends from Lwow that came to the US right after the war. They hailed the Nazis into town when they came marching in. Fled west when it was clear that Hitler’s days were over. They hated communism.

  234. The bias inherent in saker’s articles (Who for some reason seldom likes to talk about Putin’s close ties with certain still very powerful jewish oligarchs, inlcuding one oor two that Putin consideres very close advisers by own admission) is revealed when he says the S-500 is unmatched by any US capability.

    Has he heard about THAAD or AEGIS BMD or AEGIS Ashore with the SM-3 Block IIA missile? Obviously not.

    I hate the US as much as anybody but this is just deranged sputter about ukrainonazis.

    However, that’s not to say I would not absolutely prefer someone like Putin to the people are in charge where I live, but there’s got to be some limit to the shilling and pure dementedness in a person.

    Saker seems to be some kind of leftist who buys into the western jewish neoconservative history of the world with world war II and the Third Reich as the starting point of history and the moral center from which everything can and shall be judgeed. Ukrainonazis (or what the word was he constantly uses). Ok, even if they are national socialists, so fucking what?

    Is Saker a liberal at heart or a duginist anti-racist or what?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Passer by
  235. Levtraro says:

    Sometimes you have to let things happen because once you realize it’s very bad any effort to contain it would be even worse as when the USA let Cuba go to the communist camp and then they tried to invade leading to an embarrasing fiasco.

  236. Levtraro says:

    I thought you were an educated man? I guess history isn’t your subject. Those film clips you’ve seen were Vietnamese citizens being evacuated.

    Actually, in those images 1 out of 6 evacuated people were Americans. Anyways, they should have let Vietnamese escapees there instead of flying them out in choppers after the airport was bombed because now everybody giving a cursory look (i.e. most people) think that Americans were running for their life in desperation.

    • Replies: @Rich
  237. Anonymous[521] • Disclaimer says:

    Because Putin is a vassal of Global Zionism.

  238. Anonymous[521] • Disclaimer says:

    You’d be correct to think that.

  239. Rich says:

    A spade a spade, yes. Commumists were the worst traitors in human history. They murdered their own people, destroyed ancient civilizations, put child against parent, stole property and forced starvation everywhere they went. Any person who stood up against this distorted, foreign ideology was a patriot.

    Were the Free French who fought with the Americans against the Nazi inspired Vichy traitors? Are Syrians who fight beside Russians against Islamic fundamentalists traitors? The American forces in S Vietnam were there to protect the South from invasion of a foreign ideology, the men who allied with them were not traitors.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  240. Alfred says:

    Were the Free French who fought with the Americans against the Nazi inspired Vichy traitors?

    I am sad to have to tell you this. You have watched too many Hollywood movies. 🙁

    The French Resistance was almost 100% Communist. The bourgeois, the paysans and many others were quite happy under the Germans. Renault was churning out tanks for the Germans. After the war, the company was confiscated from the Renault family.

    Here is the story of one of the top Resistance leaders – he was Armenian and a Communist. He was born in Armenia. Later, he was betrayed by another Communist. A Polish Jew – Joseph Davidovitch.

    Missak Manouchian

    • Thanks: Schuetze
  241. Rich says:

    So it’s your contention that about 16.6% of those being rescued are Americans based on their appearance of being Caucasians? Are you including pilots and rescue personnel? How are you differentiating between White Americans and Europeans? Are some of these Pale appearing people possibly Eurasian? Or tourists? And how many photos have you actually seen and were those photos doctored or perhaps accentuated because more Palefaces were in them? The US had withdrawn it’s forces and just about all its people well before the murderous commies reached Saigon. Even your anti-White, lefty media will confirm that. Try again.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  242. Schuetze says:

    “A person serving occupying foreign power is called a traitor in any country.”

    What an idiotic comment. After the Treaty of Versailles and the break up of the German, Austrian, Russian and Turkish empires untold millions of people found themselves citizens of an ethnically foreign country. The Sudeten Germans are some of the most famous, but there were Poles, Hungarians, Ruthenians, Slovakians, Croatians, Slovenes and many others who found themselves punished by citizenship in a foreign country where they were neither wanted to be nor were wanted. Many of them formed not only a majority in their town or village, but also in their local districts. Were they all “traitors” if they wanted to be reunited with their own ethnic brothers?

    Yugoslavia was the attempt to lump groups of slavic sub-ethnic groups into one larger slavic “kingdom”, but should have been a confederation. The Jews running the show at Versailles put all the other ethnic groups under a Serbian king. When in 1940 this artificial construct fell apart there was bitter enmity between the Serbs and the other ethnic groups they had persecuted. The same thing happened with the Poles, Slovakians and Hungarians of Czechoslovakia after the Sudeten German’s were allowed to reunite with Germany. I know that AnonfromTN is some kind of Russian communist Putin fanboi, so in his eyes the Croats would have been “traitors”. Lol. Communists simply have no grasp of history or human behaviour.

    Galicia also would have been a good candidate for a confederation like Switzerland. There were 3 roughly equally sized ethnic groups, Poles, Ukrainians and Ruthenians. In Lemberg there was also a strong Germanic component, plus some Hungarians. On paper Galicia would seem to have the ideal formula for a Swiss style confederation. But the real issue is the lack of social capital and trustworthiness among slavs. The Poles and the Ukrainians, just like the Serbs in Yugoslavia, could never allow themselves to be anything else but the most dominant ethnic group.

    Today, Ukraine would seem to be a good candidate for a Swiss style confederation too. In the west in Lemberg, the remnants of the Germans, and their heritage, who once were there could form one group of cantons, the Ukrainians around Kiev another group, the Donbas a third, and the remaining Tatars, Cossacks, and Russians along the Black Sea another group, and Crimea could even be split into 2 groups of cantons, one more Ukrainian and the other more Russian. A Ukrainian Confederation would certainly have far, far more natural resources and advantageous geography than Switzerland.

    Of course just as with Galicia, Yugoslavia and even Czechoslovakia this will never work. Slavs are incapable of laying down their weapons and their enmity and working together. Whether this is a direct result of their genetics or their culture I certainly cannot say for certain, but slavs seem to have some innate need to dominate. This is one reason why they always need a Tsar, a Communist Dictator, or a Crypto-jew like Putin to bully them and hold their massive empire together by force.

    Western Europeans, of a more Latin origin, and coming from the Roman Catholic half of the great schism, seem to be able to confederate in a much more workable fashion. The EU would be a great Confederation if not for the Jews. After all, for centuries the Holy Roman Empire was in essence a Confederation of Germanic princedoms and duchies, and it actually worked quite well as long as the French, Swedes, Russians and Turks left them in peace.

    • Thanks: W
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  243. Schuetze says:

    “Were the Free French who fought with the Americans against the Nazi inspired Vichy traitors?”

    The majority of those “Free French” were communists who wanted Stalin to march through Germany and conquer France. They wanted a communist revolution in France. All communists are traitors by definition.

    As D-Day was approaching, the allies began sending massive supplies of weapons and ammunition to the “Free French” Communist’s. These “Free French” communists refused to use the weapons, flown in at great loss of life by the allies, against the Germans. Instead they were saving them for their dreamed of Communist Revolution. De Gaulle was desperate to get to Paris as soon as he could, not because he was afraid that the Americans or British would “liberate” Paris, but that the “Free French” communists would get there first and conquer Paris for the Red Army.

    A very significant share of the “Free French” were known as Maquis. They were the remnants of the Spanish Republicans who had fled to France when Franco liberated Spain. The Maquis were absolute terrorists who often deliberately brought German reprisals down against French villagers by committing terrorist acts which were against the Geneva convention. Even though the Maquis terrorists had continually violated the Geneva convention, Roosevelt warned the Germans that if they did not apply the Geneva conventions to the Communist Maquis Terrorists, that he persecute and prosecute Germans after the war. A lot of good that did, because Eisenhower simply tore up the Geneva conventions and then labelled all German soldiers “Disarmed Enemy Combatants” and then he sent them all off to the Rhine Meadows Camps where millions of German POW’s died.

    • Agree: Alfred
  244. @Rahan

    No, it would not be fair.

    Chinese aircraft carriers are of two types:

    1. The Liaoning and Shandong, both of which are STOBAR carriers with ski jumps. The first was built on the hull of the Kuznetsov class Varyag, but with important differences, which I’ll discuss in a moment. The second is an upgraded version of the first, capable of carrying more aircraft and with longer range.

    2. The Type 003, now in construction. See for yourself:

    This is a totally different beast, some 25-30% larger than the other two, and most importantly a CATOBAR carrier; you can see three catapult tracks on the deck, compared to the average USN nuclear powered carrier’s 4. Most interestingly these are going to be EMALS catapults, leapfrogging the steam catapult that equips the only French carrier and all but one of the Amerikastani carriers; the USN has not been able to make RMALS work properly on its latest carrier but the Chinese seem to have been able to.

    At no point did the USSR manage to create a catapult carrier. It had only just started finally and belatedly building one, the Ulyanovsk, when it imploded and the ship was scrapped at 40% complete in 1992. Russia at the moment can’t even build a destroyer, let alone a carrier, catapult equipped or otherwise.

    Now let’s see the major difference between the Russian idea of what a “carrier” should do and what the rest of the world, including China, thinks a carrier should do.

    The Russian idea of a carrier is supposed to be to defend an oceanic belt around its coast from enemy aviation and ships so the Russian nuclear sub fleet can hide safely there. As such, Russian carrier doctrine had these requirements:

    1. Planes that can fight against aerial targets at limited distances from the carrier. This does not require heavy aircraft. It needs agile dogfighters with a high thrust to weight ratio.

    2. To fight enemy surface vessels. This requires a heavy surface to surface armament.

    3. To eliminate enemy hunter killer submarines. This requires a strong ASW helicopter air arm.

    Putting these three things together, you have a ship with only a few lightweight fighters, a substantial number of helicopters, and, most importantly, a substantial portion of the ship space given over to large anti ship missiles. In fact Russia doesn’t even call these ships aircraft carriers; it has never constructed an aircraft carrier. It calls them “heavy aircraft carrying cruisers”, because that is what they have always been and what the sole survivor, Kuznetsov, still is. That’s why it performed so abysmally off Syria; it was being forced to act as a standard aircraft carrier, a role it was never built for.

    China, like everyone else except Russia, considers the carrier a power projection platform against enemy shipping and shore based targets. Therefore its carriers are carriers, not cruisers. They lack the heavy missile armament that takes up so much space. They have only a few helicopters, and a far larger number of heavy fighters that carry large amounts of ordnance to attack far off targets. The Type 003 will have fixed wing AEW aircraft too. In fact, whatever the looks are like, all the Chinese carriers are far more like the Amerikastani ones in doctrine and construction than they are of the Russian ones.

    • Thanks: Rahan
  245. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ray Caruso

    I’m a younger Latin American immigrant

    What you really mean here is… I’m a Loser, and like all whitevil racist losers, I have taken refuge in whitevil supremacy to give some meaning to my worthless life!!

    I am White, though, and proud of it.


    Even the assorted redneck and hillbilly vermin are “proud” of being whitevil too. But, they have been human refuse and will always remain so, just like you.

    Going by the racist vileness you exhibit here, no matter what position you hold in society, you will always remain a soul-diseased sub-human… destined for the most horrible torment in Hell!

    In your case, Divine justice is gonna be sweet!!

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  246. EugeneGur says:

    Apparently, the Ukrainians were eager to cut the ties to Moscow.

    No, they were not and the majority still is not. There has always been a faction in the upper classes that wanter to get the whole pie for themselves, that’s all.

    forced re-patriation in 1941

    What exactly is that supposed to mean? Ukraine was occupied by the German forces, as well as parts of Russia, Belarussia, etc. That’ was all.

    • Replies: @Fox
  247. Levtraro says:

    It was in the news, 1 out of 6 evacuated from rooftops were American, see for instance:

    quickly found with a search. From the above piece of news:

    “Over the course of April 29 and into the following morning, Operation Frequent Wind transported more than 1,000 Americans and more than 5,000 Vietnamese out of the city. The 19-hour operation involved 81 helicopters and is often called the largest helicopter evacuation on record.”

    But I was agreeing with you. It was mostly evacuation of Vietnamese escapees. The point was that to anybody looking at those images without care would walk out with the idea that the Americans were running for the lives from rooftops, even with comical instances of choppers falling off ships included.

  248. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Juden and Chizzies are both “in-his-image” mangods-worshippers! Your “gods” are man-like beings! You pagan godless vermin are all the same!

    So, enough with these pathetic and deceitful argumentations about who is a Juden, and who is a Chrizzie!

    You are both fucking same!! When will you get that into your evil godless noggins?!

  249. Out of feckless Afghanistan,
    Killer clown dances to next Failurestan.

    What a ride, Amurika!
    We’re all clowns now.

  250. @The Ghost Of Emanuel Swedenborg

    Has he heard about THAAD

    Maybe he has heard that hyped-up THAAD deployed in South Korea always learned about NK rockets in timely manner, from the media.

  251. Anonymous[411] • Disclaimer says:

    LOL are you still at it again, Would be interesting seeing you know all about Nam just when you served, what outfit you were in, what battles you participated in. You need to show a little credibility because just re-hashing the same ole lines which don’t really prove a thing, especially seeing your trying to compare apples to potatoes in the way the two different forces fought their battles, one a stand-up in your face force with all the weapons of war against a force whose motto was hit-and-run to fight another day, until you have worn them down, bankrupted them until they cut and run, which is what happened in Nam 1 and now Nam 2 called Afghanistan.

    • Agree: Aedib
    • Replies: @Rich
  252. Mulegino1 says:

    The idea of any American president within the last several decades writing something this lengthy and detailed is risible; even reading it with comprehension would most likely be beyond most of their abilities.

    Putin’s press conferences are hours long affairs wherein he answers detailed policy questions extemporaneously and at considerable length. By contrast, Biden’s are akin to interviewing the runner up at the Special Olympics about his favorite flavor of ice cream or rap song. The contrast is revelatory and should be embarrassing to any American with an IQ above room temperature.

    Being the unadorned moron that H.L. Mencken predicted would enter the White House has become a virtual prerequisite for the job in the corporate oligarchy that we call a “democratic republic.” The elites do not want intelligent, critical thinkers for the job. They prefer absolute simpletons and dolts who are easy blackmail marks. In this sense, Biden is absolutely perfect for the job.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  253. @Schuetze

    Ukraine would seem to be a good candidate for a Swiss style confederation too.

    That’s what I’ve been saying all along. Tribal mentality of some Western Ukies killed that possibility. Now they have what they have. Serves them right.

    The EU would be a great Confederation if not for the Jews.

    That sounds like “we’d fly very well if it weren’t for gravity”.
    In the USSR there was a joke:
    – Name four factors that prevent the success of Soviet agriculture.
    – Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter.
    The same four factors prevent the success of the EU.

    • Thanks: Schuetze
  254. @Mulegino1

    The idea of any American president within the last several decades writing something this lengthy and detailed is risible; even reading it with comprehension would most likely be beyond most of their abilities.

    While that’s true, let’s be realistic. Putin is a man with reasonable intelligence and ordinary abilities. He and Xi look so good only when you compare them to pathetic nonentities that are currently Western “leaders”.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    , @Alfred
    , @Levtraro
  255. @InnerCynic

    Russia remains free last I saw and not under direct attack. Go watch a movie if you want to see some war.

  256. Rich says:

    Is that what you think the NVA did? And what the Americans did? Incredible that someone without a clue would bother commenting on a subject he obviously knows nothing about. Read a few books about the Vietnam War, then get back to me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  257. Mulegino1 says:


    For the archetypal American politicians, “reasonable intelligence and ordinary abilities” are the equivalent of extraordinary genius and inimitable skill.

  258. @Anonymous

    Like i said, rustic plant disease can mean that the grain stalks grow but the relevant expected quantity of grain within each stalk is not met. The word spreads that enough grain stalks has grown so that everyone assumes that the crop is adequate. But the grain is in shortfall and something is wrong. This happened a year after the conflict between the government and peasants had ended (1928-31). The shortfall in the 1932 crop leads to accusations that the government is taking too much grain away or that peasants are hiding it. But only specialists may record the statistics showing that neither is happening. The government is taking a less than normal amount of grain, but there isn’t enough left over as would usually be the case.

  259. Passer by says:
    @The Ghost Of Emanuel Swedenborg

    Has he heard about THAAD or AEGIS BMD or AEGIS Ashore with the SM-3 Block IIA missile? Obviously not.

    Even S-400 (the older version) is better than the combined THAAD + Patriot capability.


  260. Rabbino says:

    Lmao, imagine shilling for judeo-bolshevism and denying the Holodomor. This guy “Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist” is on another level of schizophrenia.
    Oh and what’s with the natzee name calling? If anything you’re complimenting those Ukrainian Nationalists.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  261. notbe says:

    oh jeezus where to begin?-any discussion is useless the us lost, no amount of word play aint gonna change it the us should have won-it had much bigger resources than the north PLUS it controlled the giant armed forces of s vietnam PLUS it had in play contingents from s korea, taiwan and australia
    buuut talking to you is like talking to a brick wall useless

    • Disagree: Rich
  262. Svevlad says:

    Didn’t you post this exact same crap on some Anatoly Karlin’s post and get fucked six ways from sunday?

  263. Seraphim says:

    A war that didn’t achieve its objective is lost. US fought to stop Communists taking over Vietnam. They couldn’t. They lost not only the war, but the aura of invincibility they try to project. It is understandably hurtful for your self-esteem, that’s why they are in denial.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @Rich
  264. Fox says:

    .. I was talking about the occupation of the independent Ukrainian Republic as had existed briefly between 1917 and 1919 by the Russian Revolutionary Army in 1919. (Leaving out the slice Poland had cut off for itself at that time). The occupation was soon followed by making the Ukraine a Soviet Republic, in 1922, I believe.
    From what I can observe, the Ukrainians do not in their majority want to be part of Russia.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    , @EugeneGur
  265. @Fox

    From what I can observe, the Ukrainians do not in their majority want to be part of Russia.

    When have you been in Ukraine last time? Your comment suggests that the answer is “never”.

    • Replies: @Fox
  266. RestiveUs says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Nazism/National Socialism is dead. It was a German phenomenon and it died with the Third Reich. Anything stupidly called “Nazism” nowadays is just nationalism relative to a given country.

  267. @Decoy

    And one way to prop the dollar as a world currency is, letting in a large contingent of foreign workers into USA, who will earn in dollars and remit it home.

  268. Alfred says:

    He and Xi look so good only when you compare them to pathetic nonentities that are currently Western “leaders”.

    You are not being serious. It is obvious that Putin knows inside out his huge portfolio. He does his homework. He has a formidable memory. He was one of their top spooks in East Germany for heavens’ sake!

    I suspect his IQ is north of 140.

    I know little about Xi. But I suspect that he is in the same league. The CCP does not promote idiots.

    This video is from 5 years ago. Clearly, the MSM of the West is trying to cancel Putin’s incredible call-in sessions. 🙂

  269. @Anonymous

    Yes, the country that produces hundreds of great chess player, thousands of excellent musicians, scores of top world-class mathematicians, and, allegedly, world’s best hackers, lacks ‘talent’. You’d know.

    • LOL: emersonreturn
  270. Levtraro says:

    Observing several of those long and open interviews given by Putin, it seems to me he has more memory capacity than the average intelligent person.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
  271. @Rich

    No. I was trained in my army days by Aussie vets from Vietnam and they very clearly know you lost. They also know why. Most unprofessional and wasteful soldiers seen. Absolute lunacy. Your weapons are often junk, your training all gung ho but no skills. Saturation fire is your concept of fire-control. That’s not even fire control. You have to use such puny bullets so you can carry enough to blat away endlessly they bounced of some leaves in the jungle. Smoking pot, on patrol, wearing cologne and smelling of toothpaste. If you’d won it would have been the first time anyway. The USA never beat anyone alone, except Grenada.

    • Disagree: Rich
  272. Sigh… Even as a concept, the Su-75 is supposed to be less ambitious and significantly weaker/cheaper than the F-35 is right now and you have this laughable moron who calls the VKS “RAF” declaring it “superior”.

    It’s stupid boomer crap like this why I don’t link *any* article from UNZ in neutral places.

  273. @Levtraro

    Observing several of those long and open interviews given by Putin, it seems to me he has more memory capacity than the average intelligent person.

    Possibly. Another explanation is that he is assiduously doing his homework before those sessions, in contrast to lazy incompetent Western politicians (“dumb, ignorant, and proud of it” would be an American attitude, W-style). In my view, he is competent, psychologically balanced, and hard-working, in sharp contrast to what passes for leaders today in the West.

    • Replies: @Avery
  274. @Rabbitnexus

    The USA never beat anyone alone, except Grenada.

    There was another US military victory in 1989, when the US military removed CIA asset Noriega from power in Panama (likely because he knew too many dirty CIA secrets about its complicity in drug trade).

  275. Avery says:

    {Another explanation is that he is assiduously doing his homework }

    One has to have way above-average recall (grey matter) to retain all the voluminous details after assiduously preparing for those interviews. I am guessing part of the KGB training, particularly those being posted overseas, is to start with good material, then train the brain for recall of details, faces, dates, etc. I would believe that would be part of being a high ranking intelligence officer.

    Nevertheless, I agree with your original point: Putin looks particularly good, because US POTUSes have been mostly dumb (e.g. the dimwit Brush the Lesser). The current puppet occupying the chair takes the prize.

    Comes from the pool: unlike Europeans, Americans are mostly clueless about anything other than baseball and American football, much less things going on outside US.

  276. A.z says:

    But a patriot none the less putin didn’t have anything else to say about him except for the fact he allied with the nazis he had plenty to say about the other “heroes”

  277. Fox says:

    Now the wise guys and Survivors are coming out of the woodwork. So I assume that you are a regular witness to the happenings there.
    Can I take it for granted that you think that Winston Churchill and Delano Roosevelt are objects of admiration in your existence?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
  278. Rich says:

    When the North Vietnamese communists defeated S Vietnam, the people in control of the US government were communist sympathizers who had taken control after removing Nixon and installing a weak figurehead in Ford. By 1975 it was no longer the policy of the US to keep S Vietnam free. When it was the policy to prevent communist expansion and the US had combat troops in country as well as supplying the S Vietnamese military, the reds were kept at bay. Are you really having that hard of a time understanding my points?

    • Replies: @notbe
    , @showmethereal
  279. @Fox

    So I assume that you are a regular witness to the happenings there.

    FYI, I was born in Ukraine, in Lvov, and grew up in Ukraine, in Lugansk (now it’s no longer Ukraine, it’s Lugansk People’s Republic). I had a cousin in Lvov, who now works and lives in Russia. Both his sons left Ukraine, live in different countries, with no intention to ever return. I have another cousin in Kiev. Her son works and lives in Russia since 2016, and also has no intention of returning to Ukraine. I have relatives and classmates living in different parts of Ukraine. I have a post-doc from Kharkov region, Ukraine, whose wife and daughter regularly visit their relatives there. The husband of one of our Assistant Professors is from Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine. Last time I was in Ukraine in 2013 visiting my mother in Lugansk. I had to evacuate her in 2014 because of Ukie shelling of the city (it stopped now, the scum was pushed so far away from Lugansk by Donbass freedom fighters that they can’t shell it any more, thank goodness). I was in Crimea, former part of Ukraine, in 2015.

    So, I saw a lot of things with my own eyes and have many sources of info on the ground in rump Ukraine and in former parts of Ukraine that separated from it after the 2014 coup. I don’t believe propaganda of any side, only rely on direct info from the people who live there. That info suggests that from two thirds to three quarters of Ukrainians speak Russian as their mother tongue and want some kind of union with Russia. The remainder is mostly Western Ukies, often Banderite descendants. Descendants of the people who served Hitler and perpetrated Volhynia massacre, astonishing even Nazis by their atrocities.

    What are your sources? What you write suggests that it’s imperial and/or Ukie propaganda. If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

    • Thanks: Alfred
  280. Rich says:

    It took a little while but then I realized that you think the movie ‘Platoon’ was a documentary and that’s where you, and a few others here, got your understanding of the Vietnam War.

    Now I suppose it’s possible that your Aussie friends are real, and were disgruntled vets, there’s always going to be different opinions or viewpoints on everything. Some guys love Fords, others hate them. But when we look at the overall picture, without bias, I think the Americans did solid work with the restrictions they had to fight under. They won every major battle, destroyed the terrorist VC as a fighting force and forced the North to the negotiating table where real concessions were made. If not for the coup that removed Nixon, years of hardship under a brutal dictatorship would have been avoided.

  281. More blather from the saker,there’s nothing amazing happening in Russia,its just a big dirty shit pit with idiotic lumpy face pygmy Putler carrying on like a reincarnation of Adolf,talking shite about Ukraine

    Russia is finished,i can’t wait for the shit to start there,Putler is basically driving Russia into oblivion,he’s signed the country over to China,but he doesn’t care,as the Chinese will allow Putler and his cronies to still be rich,the Chinese won’t care if Putler builds a new gulag system or kills thousands of his own citizens,as long as China rules Russia,Putin will stay,and he’ll keep making sure the Chinese get a good deal,basically Putler is no more than a jumped up caretaker for Chinese imperialism

    So no saker,nothing to see amazing about Russia,just a bunch of idiots showing off a plastic full scale model of some crap that China will make soon and cheaper

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    , @Rabbitnexus
  282. @Rich

    the movie ‘Platoon’

    I wasn’t in the US during Vietnam war. I’ve heard from a number of American born and bred colleagues that the movie “Apocalypse now” best describes Vietnam war from the viewpoint of those who served in Nam.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  283. @alwayswrite

    You’d be best advised to see your psychiatrist often and take all the meds s/he prescribes.

    • Agree: vox4non
  284. @Rabbino

    There clearly was a crop failure in 1932 which caused a famine. It was not an “intentional famine” the way that the “Economic Policy Guidelines for Economic Organisation East, Agriculture Group” of May 23, 1941, laid out the policy for German occupation forces to allow 30 million Slavs to starve to death. The rustic plant disease which caused the 2.6 million Ukrainian deaths, 1.2 million Volga deaths, and some unknown number of hundreds of thousands across the rest of the USSR was not caused by intentional policy. Actually, once the natural disaster of that year had passed it proved to be the case that Soviet agriculture was more productive after collectivization than prior. Mark Tauger is the leading authority on the subject of the 1932 famine and probably his most important works are “Natural Disaster and Human Actions in the Soviet Famine” and “Statistical Falsification in the Soviet Union.” For information about the German plans to create a manmade famine see Alex Kay, Exploitation, Resettlement, Mass Murder: Political and Economic Planning for German Occupation Policy in the Soviet Union.

    • Replies: @Rabbino
    , @Alfred
  285. @Avery

    Almost nobody talks about formerly great formerly Britain in the USA, not even educated or well-traveled or ethnically English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh people. It has (like us) an overfinancialized economy, a weak manufacturing base, a small ill-maintained & weak military, a lack of fossil fuels and other natural resources, a small and declining/aging native British population, and so on.

    How many people below the age of, say, fifty years old here knows the acronym for the “Royal” British “Air Force” is or has heard or said it ever in his adult life?

    Britain is a joke and RAF may as well mean the Russian Air Force.

  286. @Passer by

    The important difference between the the S-400 and THAAD is the warhead – explosive warheads of any and every kind kind has repeatedly been shown to be completely inneffective towards ballistic missile targets (Consider Patriot’s abysmal performance in the Gulf war) while hit-to-kill warheads – which the S-400’s large arsenal of usable missiles is not equipped with) makes a big difference – if you get them to work correctly.

    Also, what about AEGIS BMD or AEGIS Ashore which can shoot down ballistic missiles in the mid-phase? S-400 absolutely does not have that capability and since S-500 is compared to Patriot and THAAD it almost certainly does not have this capability either.

    There’s a difference between hating or disliking the US imperialist state and being a pure ruswsian shill beyond any reason.

    Also, if there is one area in the broken US procurement system that has not been completely neglected for the last 20 years when almost the sholow of the US armed forces where set up for cvolonial wars it’s precisely the area of missile defense.
    Why not draw attention to Zircon or hypersonic glide weapons from China or Russia instead where the US is completely outclassed – because Russia has to be best at everything and there can be no nuance because someone has lost there rational faculties due to hatred (Shared by me) for the US.

    I long for the day when the Zionist Occupied Government is forced into the dirt by China, BTW, but it will almost certainly not be the Russians who do it when you add Europes combined strength in Air forces. The russians primary strength lies in hypersonic missiles, hypersonic glide weapons, very good balllistic missiles with nuclear payloads, anti-aircraft and anti-PGM/cruise missile systems and cleverly designed more conventional AShMs.

    This while China is presently overtaking the US in almost every domain except advanced small high thrust to weight ratio turbofan engines for fighter aircraft and number of aircraft carriers (Where they eventually will overtake the US as well).

    • LOL: Rabbitnexus
    • Replies: @Passer by
  287. @RestiveUs

    Really? So people literally following Hitler’s precepts and using Nazi symbols are “nationalists”? Do tell.

  288. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Do you even have the faintest idea who Kurginyan is, or that he wants the reconstitution of the Soviet Union?

    From your two word answer,

    1. You never heard of him and
    2. You can’t be bothered to find out.

    I do hope you’re proud of yourself.

  289. @anonymous

    God is truth, cockroach. Accordingly, there is no greater sin than telling a vicious lie. And black equality is a vicious lie. It has destroyed countless American cities, neighborhoods, schools, and individual (White) lives.

  290. @ben sampson

    Reading this stultified straight-jacket prose was terrifying. Oh mi god! this is actually a human being speaking, and about other human beings. Caruso should take a break, come back and read his own prose. Pheeeew!

    Your criticizing my writing is equivalent to someone literate praising it. And, of course, you did not dispute the factual basis of anything I wrote for the obvious reason that none of it can be disputed. Your argument is, “He’s mean!” And you know what, maybe I am a little mean, but truth rules over niceness.

  291. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:

    Australian forces employed totally different tactics resulting in a kill radio of 12.5/1 whereas US forces had a ratio of only around 7.5/1. They did make an enormous blunder though by laying tens of thousands of mines which supplied Charlie with an ample supply of high explosives, which was purchased and paid for in full with blood.

    Increasingly falling under US leadership things went South, literally. This is very well documented in Vietnam: The Australian War by Paul Ham. very well written and well worth reading.

  292. @AnonfromTN

    I find that statement rather odd. Apocalypse Now is essentially a fantasy. In fact, the story is in no way based on reality, being an adaptation of Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness, a novella set in central Africa in the early 20th century, rather than on anything that actually relating to the Vietnam War. Aside from that, Marlon Brando’s character was very cool despite being insane. Real US officers in ‘Nam tended to fit the mold of William Westmoreland, the biggest dork in America in addition to being an incompetent and a liar, a man who would urge his troops to display greater “spizzerinctum”.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  293. @Rabbitnexus

    I forgot that glorious bit of military history, true. Does it count when it’s one’s own guy being removed? It just seems a bit like filling the pool so you can drain it again.

  294. @Rich

    Platoon was made long after I was trained. It is common knowledge anyway. Everyone knows when the US machine goes to war, the safest place to begin with is anywhere but by their side. They usually kill a few dozen or hundreds of allies early on. Canadians, Brits. That’s why our SAS actually prefer to begin behind enemy lines. Safest place.

    • Replies: @Rich
  295. @alwayswrite

    Thanks for alerting me to what a twit you are in that spittle soaked preamble.
    It saved me wasting time on the rest.

  296. Rich says:

    Well, at least you’ve revealed yourself as either a liar or an ignoramus. The mission of the SAS is special operations, their mission is to parachute behind enemy lines, has nothing to do with fear of “friendly fire”. Look, you hate the US, you don’t have to make things up, or create an imaginary military background where hippie Aussie vets badmouth their allies. Just stop it.

    • Replies: @Mellote 22
    , @Rabbitnexus
  297. Rabbino says:
    @Patrick McNally

    That’s the most delusional thing I’ve ever read.
    The Germans had no such plans, you’re pulling stuff out of your ***.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  298. @Height_776

    I’d suggest that if the Israeli plane in Lebanese airspace fires missiles into Syria, and Syria responds in self-defense by shooting down the Israeli plane, Syria’s not the aggressor.

    Syria wouldn’t be the aggressor if it fired missiles back into Israel itself, either.

    • Replies: @Height_776
  299. @Rich

    What is there to like about US? Serious question.

  300. Alfred says:

    They won every major battle, destroyed the terrorist VC as a fighting force and forced the North to the negotiating table where real concessions were made.

    The Americans and their allies also “won” every battle in Afghanistan. I guess they had to evacuate Bagram in the middle of the night and without informing their local ally because they won there as well. 🤣

    I am sure that in a few years, trolls like you will be telling us about the great victories of Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria as well.

    US left Bagram Airbase at night with no notice, Afghan commander says

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
  301. Alfred says:
    @Patrick McNally

    The rustic plant disease which caused the 2.6 million Ukrainian deaths, 1.2 million Volga deaths, and some unknown number of hundreds of thousands across the rest of the USSR was not caused by intentional policy.

    If your thesis is correct, which it is not, central planning is why the crop failed. It would not have failed if the family farms existed and the Kulaks not exterminated by the Jewish-led Bolsheviks and their ideology of hatred of all things non-Jewish.

    In reality, it was deliberate. The USSR exported grain to pay for the factories they Americans (e.g. Ford) were building for them. The Jewish Bolsheviks also took the animals from the peasants. The most extreme case was in Kazakhstan where half the rural population starved as they were a nomadic pastoral people.

    It is pretty obvious to me that you are a Hasbara troll. These famines were organised by Jews in both Ukraine (Kaganovitch) and Kazakhstan (Goloshchyokin). It is remarkable how the Neocon husband of Victoria Nuland is called Kagan. I guess he might be a descendant of Kaganovitch.

    Kazakh famine of 1931–1933

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  302. @Alfred

    I’m sure Hollywood is already busy reinventing history to prove Amerikastan won.

  303. @Rich

    I was being facetious you dimwit. The fact I knew where our SAS was demonstrates the opposite of your projections you low IQ twit. They didn’t necessarily all parachute in either for your info. Our SAS guys can teleport themselves and all their gear just by mind power. Now I bet you deny that! I don’t hate the US, I despise it’s actions globally. There’s a difference.

  304. @Ray Caruso

    Like I said, I have no personal experience of those times, that’s what I’ve heard from several Americans after I came to the US in 1991.

    Real US officers in ‘Nam tended to fit the mold of William Westmoreland, the biggest dork in America in addition to being an incompetent and a liar

    That fits what I’ve heard about the war in Nam 100%.

  305. EugeneGur says:

    From what I can observe, the Ukrainians do not in their majority want to be part of Russia.

    A lot of them do, actually. How many we can’t reliably tell in this atmosphere. Besides, the Ukrainians incorporate themselves into Russia on the individual basis quite readily: last year almost 1 million Ukrainians got themselves Russian passports.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  306. @Rabbino

    I was simply citing the document of the German Foreign Office itself. The conquest of living space was always Hitler’s central goal in eastern Europe and the plans to engineer the starvation of huge numbers of Slavs were a part of that.

  307. @Alfred

    It was neither deliberate nor what it caused by central planning per se. In fact agricultural production improved markedly in the USSR under collectivization once the crisis of 1932-3 had passed. This is addressed by Mark Tauger in the works which I cited. In fact, both Russia and Ukraine saw a significant drop in agricultural production after 1991. But the collective farms of the 1930s performed better than what had existed in the NEP period. It still is plausible that the whole thing might have been better handled if industrialization had been achieved before collectivization was attempted as Trotsky had advocated. But even then it’s plausible that the wave of rustic plant disease would have caused something similar.

    • Troll: Alfred
  308. @EugeneGur

    This gets back to the difference between west and east Ukrainians. Simon Petliura was the leader of West Ukrainian nationalists in 1917-20. He had no popular following outside of that portion of Ukraine which went to Poland until the Hitler-Stalin pact of 1939 gave it to the USSR. In the east Ukraine you had a form of revolutionary politics which was much more like that of Russia. A variety of anarchists (not to be confused with Antifa phonies of today) and support for various Mensheviks, Social Revolutionaries and the like, with the Bolsheviks having less popular support but better organization overall. The fact that the Right-wing leadership of the Whites was so rabidly hostile towards the Left therefore tipped the balance in favor of the Bolsheviks.

  309. Anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:

    Read them, many of them also the books of when the French were there and suffered the same defeat, we just created a false flag, so we could get involved to save the wealth of American companies and corporation who had money to invest in neighboring countries who were afraid that it would spread to them to.

    According to Jobe which is what you are we won every battle never lost a soul but due to the clumsy handling of the war in Washington we lost it. And by the way you never did answer the question of when you served there, what battles you were in, which means the closet you ever got was watching Hollywood flicks where we never lose.

    • Replies: @Avery
  310. Avery says:

    {Read them}

    Don’t know if you have read ‘About Face: The Odyssey of an American Warrior’ by Col. Hackworth, but if you haven’t, it accurately describes the disaster that the US military leadership was in Viet Nam and the pointless meatgrinder that American young men were being force-fed into (…not forgetting the innocent Vietnamese civilians that were slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands).

    Another excellent book is by French journalist Bernard Fall ‘Street Without Joy: The French Debacle in Indochina’, an account of French disaster in Indochina, which also accurately foresaw the future American disaster.

    And to all those fake “patriots” who claim that US military was supposedly never allowed to win in Viet Nam: US military had a free hand in Vietnam. They carpet bombed, Napalmed, used Chemical warfare, freely murdered (Operation Phoenix), ethnically cleansed villages, bombed Hanoi, mined Vietnamese harbors,…….US did everything except drop nukes. And some people in Johnson Admin even advocated nuking Hanoi. But cooler heads prevailed: they argued that USSR would almost certainly use nukes in Vietnam also, and then it would go global.

    These fake “patriots” are the enemies of the American people. I know this because real, genuine American patriots wrote these a while back:

    “It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world” George Washington.

    “”Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none.” Thomas Jefferson.

    “But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.” John Quincy Adams

    • Agree: notbe
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  311. Jazman says:

    What a stupid comment . 112 lost battles in Vietnam lol

    • Disagree: Rich
  312. notbe says:

    The USA never beat anyone alone, except Grenada- i disagree, they decisively beat the americans in 1865 now mind you for a while it was touch and go-the first couple of years nobody knew with certainty who was going to win…it could have been the americans or the…americans

    eventually, americas greater resources and manpower enabled her to send her armies deep inside america and teach america a lesson she never forgot

    never again, would america dare to threaten america knowing the punishment she received from america

  313. notbe says:

    except its not the job of the us to keep s vietnam free it was the job of s vietnam to keep itself free

    south vietnam had 20 million people-enough to keep a large army in the field and a gigantic air force, the fifth largest at the time it had enough resources to keep itself going but squandered it

    in military terms, s vietnam should not have failed but it did why? it needs to be analyzed and no use blaming everything on communist sympathizers or that the us congress did not do this or that or should have done that instead of this

    s vietnam got lazy living of the us teat-something the us encouraged anyways

    when the us bugged out the s viets never saw the seriousness of their situation and that they had to rely on themselves

    in a worse case scenario, it still could have gotten aid from taiwan or s korea if the us shut off all aid

    the fact that when the us had troops in the south, n vietnam made very little progress is true enough but that is the nature of war you lose and lose and then you win happens all the time in history the us did not want further casualties- nothing communist about that and thus decided to leave

    they left the s vietnamese to themselves but the s vietnamese were corrupted by all that sweet us aid, money and advice- they should have relied on themselves- in general a good path to pursue even if you are not in a war another good path is to stay away from us advice

    the s vietnamese could have set up a domestic weapons industry-easy enough to do , they were not being bombed they had more than twenty years to do it-nothing happened incredible actually sweet, sweet us aid corrupted them

    look in your historical analysis, the us was defeated by communist sympathisers inside the government thats simply not a very good idea for the simple reasons that nations are defeated in war all the time…napoleon won won won and then lost

    his career was a hundred years before the bolshevik revolution so obviously he wasnt defeated by communist sympathisers yet he lost…after a string of victories that made his opponents feel he could never be defeated…and yet he lost and so did the us in vietnam

    nations are defeated all the time-the fact that the us was, at some point, winning the vietnam war is true but in the long run useless because the us lost the war

    • Replies: @Rich
  314. Why would Russia sell such high tech planes to the British RAF so they can use it against Russia or replicate it. Doesn’t make sense

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  315. Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes I have read those and also Hell In A very Small Place by Fall which was the destruction of the French Army at Dien Bien Phu also Kill Anything That Moves by Nick Turse which was the slaughter of the civilians in the free fire zones. And also that was an excellent post not one clouded by U.S. propaganda well done.

    • Thanks: Avery
  316. I return to the issue I raised in #89: the efficiency of the government and the system in general in real life. I mentioned pathetic response to floods in Europe, with >160 lives lost in Germany alone, as compared to quick and competent response to floods in Yalta and Krasnodar region in Russia, with minimal loss of life.

    #93 and #105 mentioned pathetic slowness in building new Berlin airport (13 years with no end in sight), as compared to Russia building numerous excellent airports within the last few years.

    Recently due to international travel I’ve encountered a difference in the speed of PCR tests for covid. In the US “priority test” results are promised in less than 36 hours, whereas standard test results are available in 3 days. In Russia and Egypt standard test results are available in 24 hours, whereas the results of a priority test (available at all airports) in Russia are available in two hours.

    Banking is another thing. Contactless credit cards were around in the world, including Russia, for many years, but in the US most card readers cannot read them. I got my first American contactless card only about a year ago. You can do all your banking in Russia using your smartphone, you can even pay with your smartphone when you have an associated account. Nothing comparable is available in the US.

    My point is, forget the weapons, looks at other things. Everything indicates shameful deterioration of all aspects of life in the Empire and its vassals. Living in the US, I find it very sad. I left the USSR in 1991, about 6 months before it was dissolved. I saw one Empire crumbling, and I hate to see the same signs again.

  317. pekari says:

    I am no historian at all, I suppose that one cannot dispute the facts Putin mentions at length to support his view of the history of the relations between Ukraine and Russia, he is more or less right there. However, not a word about the “Great” Catherine who erased the Hetmanate : is he right here? Not a word about the serfdom imposed upon Ukraine : is he right to omit it ? These and other measures “from Moskow” gradually reduced and eventually eradicated not only the spirit of freedom but some essential individual freedoms which “they” down there in the South enjoyed, unlike those up there in the North. As, if not more important, not a word about an essential, yes essential trait of those easy-to-condemn movements by Bandera, Skoropadsky, Petlioura and the likes, I mean their hatred of bolchevism. Putin, here, is unsurprisingly a victim of the ideology which still overwhelmingly permeates almost every single Russian. He can obviously not extirpate himself from seeing all things from “the-communist-system-was- great-after-all” mentality. How could he, knowing where he comes from. He can’t help it. Who in Russia could understand, appreciate, let alone support that the major target, the fundamental original aim of independant Ukraine (in 1917 and later years) was to oppose not Russia, but communism? Who on earth knows, understands that bolshevism (Marxism, Leninism, call it whatever you like) was and is THE evil and that eradicating it and its symbols is a most necessary and noble achievement ? Who? I will tell you who : Ukraine! She has as you no doubt know enforced her law to eliminate each and every communist naming or symbol. Of course, Russian authorities (and people) still stick to their stubborn interpretation that the law is primarily anti-Russian – Don’t give credit where it is due ? That, BTW, would be an excellent first good step to reconcile Russia and Ukraine : the former should just do the same thing, i.e. immediate and total eradication of each and every street, avenue, square, you name it, bearing the [not enough] hated name of, just, Stalin and Lenin (the rest would follow). What a challenge!…

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  318. Alfred says:

    That, BTW, would be an excellent first good step to reconcile Russia and Ukraine : the former should just do the same thing, i.e. immediate and total eradication of each and every street, avenue, square, you name it, bearing the [not enough] hated name of, just, Stalin and Lenin (the rest would follow). What a challenge!…

    Dear Pekari,

    I went to Google Maps.

    I tried finding any streets in Russia called “Stalin Street” without success. There were two in Georgia and three in India.

    I tried finding any streets in Russia called “Lenin Street” without success. There were two in Ukraine, one in Moldova and one in India.

    May I respectfully suggest that you do a bit of homework before foaming at the mouth?

  319. Passer by says:
    @The Ghost Of Emanuel Swedenborg

    The military expert says it is the other way around – a rocket relying on direct hit OR explosion is better than a rocket relying only on direct hit.

    The THAAD missile is inferior to the S-400 one – 200 km range and 150 km altitude vs 400 km range and 180 km altitude.

    As for Patriot – it is weak in anti-missile defence not because it uses explosive missiles. But because it has very limited capabilities. Only 90 degrees coverage (vs 360 degrees for S-400), long activation time, only 50 km missile altitude (vs 180 km for S-400) and only 160 km range, vs 400 km for the old S-0400. With max speed of its targets no more than Mach 6,5 vs Mach 14 max target speed for S-400.

    Patriot also uses a hit to kill missile combined with small explosive warhead to enhance the missile capability.

    See the vid again.

  320. @pekari

    Ukraine! She has as you no doubt know enforced her law to eliminate each and every communist naming or symbol

    Don’t you find it telling that current Ukrainian government promotes Nazi symbols and sends soldiers to the funeral of Waffen SS veteran? The naming of streets and sports clubs is also interesting, with the names of Hitler collaborators Shukhevych and Bandera often used, with one school team openly named “Hitlerites”.

    As to “one nation” thesis, I think now the majority of RF residents don’t agree with it, in sharp contrast with the residents of South (56% agrees) and Eastern (65% agrees) Ukraine. Curious, no?

  321. Decoy says:

    IF the US empire crumbles the effect will be negative (at least temporarily) worldwide. The USSR effect was significant but more limited. With \$29 Trillion of debt and no hope in sight for adding less than one more trillion per year I just don’t see any way out. Our Federal government is now borrowing at about 1.5% annual cost……watch the budget deficit projections explode if/when those costs go to 5%. Who in their right mind would give our Government \$100K and accept a 1.5% return for 10 years?

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @AnonfromTN
  322. Avery says:

    {IF the US empire crumbles}

    US (empire)* will not crumble ala USSR: two different beasts.
    It will be a slow, drawn out winddown.
    US might eventually self-separate into 3-4 parts: the demographic trends will see to it.
    But no catastrophic break up like USSR.

    * US will withdraw from its overseas “empire” rather sooner: has to; no money to keep it.
    But the core mainland will be around for a long time, but in much weaker condition.
    Like you pointed out, the national debt and national obligations – Medicare, Social Security – are not long term sustainable.

  323. @Decoy

    IF the US empire crumbles the effect will be negative (at least temporarily) worldwide.

    Absolutely. When the US elites crash the US dollar (so it looses 80-90% of its purchasing power), which they are hell-bent to do, the effect for the whole financial system would be devastating. The first few months would be extremely ugly. The differences will appear later: the most dollar-dependent currencies won’t recover, while the others will recover with speed inversely proportional to their dependence on the dollar. So, recovery prospects of British pound and Japanese yen are slim to none. Swiss frank and Russian ruble will recover significantly faster than Chinese Yuan or Euro, etc.

    Who in their right mind would give our Government \$100K and accept a 1.5% return for 10 years?

    Nobody is actually lending money to the US. Treasury issues and auctions its notes. To pretend that their value does not decrease when there are no buyers and lots of sellers (even KSA is dumping Treasury notes today), FRS “purchases” them (in essence, printing huge amounts of money backed by nothing). This will inevitably lead to hyperinflation, i.e., the crash of the dollar. Upside is that the value of the US debt becomes manageable. Downside is that the US dollar stops being reserve currency in the eyes of much of the world, and the US Empire goes down the drain, like all dominant Empires before it.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  324. Rich says:

    Again, you can’t lose a war you’re not fighting. The US signed a treaty and left. You can’t even say American interests lost, because the new American government supported the North. Napoleon lost in the field, the Americans never lost to the N Vietnamese. That’s kind of a significant difference.

    As to the South being lazy, I disagree. The North was well supplied by its Russian and Chinese (earlier in the war) allies. It was never a “fair” fight. Had the coup against Nixon not been successful, the US would have fulfilled its promises to the South, with air support and supplies, and they would have been able to fend off the well supplied Reds.

    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  325. Generally, I have a favorably view of the Saker’s writing, and of Russia. But his writing begs an unanswered questions-

    If Russia is so much better and more prepared than “Uncle Schmuel”, why doesn’t he live there?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Uncoy
  326. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:

    Why does this guy keep using the phrase “Ukronazi”?
    Is he just a boomer who calls everyone he doesn’t like politically a communist or a Nazi?

  327. Levtraro says:

    According to recent research on regime shifts in nonlinear systems, a clear sign that the collapse is coming is the system takes longer to recover from small disturbances. “Small disturbances” can actually be very large but they are called “small” on account of not causing a regime shift. So measure the time it takes for the financial system to recover from shocks and when that time gets longer, the system is close to a regime shift (i.e. a collapse). How long did it take to recover from the 2007-2009 Great Recession? How long will it take to recover from the COVID-19 recession? Has the duration of recessions increased over historical time scales?

  328. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:

    My dear boy, the US signed a treaty and left because they lost. When you grow up these things will be much clearer.

    • Disagree: Rich
  329. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Option 911

    That is the kind of thing that I heard when I was in second grade in Dogpatch. You bring me back to the good old days. And second grade. By the way, are you for the Yankees or the Dodgers?

  330. hillaire says:

    Opinions are like arse-holes, everyone has one… and one can deduce also, that some arse-holes have opinions…

    They are entitled to do so… but one must always reserve the right to disagree with such imbeciles.. particularly if one suspects they may be an arse-hole..

    Don’t you think ?…

  331. @RadicalCenter

    For me, you are absolutely right, but Syria is losing the information war against the Western(US&Israel) of the coalition, so Syria will definitely be exposed as an aggressor in a situation when Syria is only defending itself. Look at how the Western media demonize Russia, Iran, and China. NATO forces, or rather their soldiers, are already being photographed against the background of the fortresses of Pskov (Russia), but for some reason Russia is the aggressor for the Western man in the street.

    • Replies: @Kapyong
  332. @Sollipsist

    “Science fiction has given us a few prophecies about what the world will look like once nobody can maintain or fix the complex systems that they’ve come to depend upon.”

    The story (from 1909) describes a world in which most of the human population has lost the ability to live on the surface of the Earth. Each individual now lives in isolation below ground in a standard room, with all bodily and spiritual needs met by the omnipotent, global Machine. Travel is permitted, but is unpopular and rarely necessary. Communication is made via a kind of instant messaging/video conferencing machine with which people conduct their only activity: the sharing of ideas and what passes for knowledge.

    • Thanks: Sollipsist
  333. @Publius 2

    That is always the issue with “stealthy” planes…. They can’t carry heavy payloads of armaments.

  334. @Naughtius Maximus

    You don’t believe top militaries don’t have counter measures to jam that I phone in a war scenario?

  335. @AKAHorace

    Good morning. Russia is not the USSR, Germany is not the Third Reich.

  336. @Mulegino1

    “possessed the chronic vigor and power of assimilation which made possible the transmission of the best of Hellenic, and Germanic culture into the new, Christian cultural and civilizational synthesis, i.e., Christendom. Christianity was the vital principle of Europe as a unique culture and civilization.”

    But that is the problem (also true of the catholics keeping many European supersitions from pre-Christianity)… the whole point of the bible is not to mix… it goes down to the level of not yoking dissimilar animals together or sowing different crops in the same field or wearing mixed clothing… trying to add European elements into biblical principle spoils it. The first major error was Constantine’s “in this go forth and conquer”. False prophet… Doesn’t match to scriptural principle.

  337. @Rich

    So in other words – all those GI’s died and were injured in Vietnam did so for nothing then?

  338. Kapyong says:

    “NATO forces, or rather their soldiers, are already being photographed against the background of the fortresses of Pskov (Russia)”

    NATO forces in Pskov, well inside Russia ?

    Apparently this is a picture taken in 2017 from Narva on the very eastern border of Estonia, looking over the river border with Russia towards the old fort in Ivangorod.

    Ivangorod fort :

  339. Uncoy says: • Website

    Believe it or not, the Russians were busy with the Sochi Olympics. Matters had been moving so slowly in the Ukraine (first colour revolution in 2005) that Putin did not think anything of substance could happen in a few weeks. Putin did not count on the weakness that Yanukovych would show such weakness or that NATO would get away with the Polish snipers trick. Russian FSB should have caught the rooftop snipers and put the story out across the Ukraine the same day. But no, Olympics were the order of the day.

    In fairness, Russian recovery was fairly quick, with the Little Green Men spread out over Crimea, surrender of the Ukrainian fleet and referendum about returning to Russia done and dusted in a couple of weeks.

  340. Uncoy says: • Website
    @Option 911

    If Russia is so much better and more prepared than “Uncle Schmuel”, why doesn’t he live there?

    This kind of remark is just silliness. One does not uproot oneself and one’s family at a whim, or over politics. If it becomes too unbearable to live in the West, there’s plenty of time to catch a plane to Moscow. There are enough Russians in Russia now. Some must be outside to hinder Western propaganda’s attempt to portray Russians as other and sub-human.

    Riling the population up against Russia did not go so well, so currently bigger efforts are being made to make G7 citizens perceive the Chinese other and sub-human.

  341. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    OK, German has 4 cases, not 6 – huge difference? And even more so than in German, the gender of Russian nouns is clear from the ending, in 99% of cases.

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