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The 20th century has seen a seemingly countless number of military conflicts, ranging from small local clashes, to at least two world wars. The same 20th century saw a huge efforts by major powers to develop three types of so-called “weapons of mass destruction” (WMD): Atomic, Bacteriological and Chemical (ABC). All of these WMD were initially seen as very effective and very frightening, yet there were only used in a few, limited occasions.

Ask yourself, why is that?

The reason is simple: while the US could nuke Japanese cities with impunity in 1945, and while the Anglo powers developed at least THREE plans to wage a total war against the Soviet Union (details in this article), they never dared to implement them.

Again, ask yourself, why is that?

I am a total medical ignoramus, and I have nothing to say about the nature of SARS-CoV-2, I am a military analyst and one of my two areas of specialization (besides planning nuclear forces) was operational art, that is the level of military operations above tactical, but under strategic: you can think of it as what connects the tactical means to the strategic goals. You can also think of it as the level at which combined arms (above division level) formations are brought together in something similar to an army corps. This is exactly the level at which the used of WMD would be the most likely to happen. Yet, if you look at the typical Soviet/Russian or US manuals discussing operational art you will notice that it is always assumed that the other side will initiate the use of WMD (even in secret documents).

Again, ask yourself, why is that? Is it only a type of political correctness showing that “we are the good guys” and “they are truly evil”? To some degree, yes, but not only.

I submit that all three cases have the same explanation: WMD are very tricky to use, and when used, they can result in absolutely truly cataclysmic political consequences. Take for example the (completely fake) reports about the Syrian government using chemical weapons against the Takfiris: they made no sense to any military analyst simply because 1) they brought no advantage to Damascus and 2) everybody knew that as soon as this latest “new Hitler” would be accused of using chemical munitions, the Empire would seize this pretext to strike at Syria.

True, the Takfiris *DID* develop chemical weapons, apparently, they did try to use them here and there, with no special result to show for, and recently they seem to have poisoned themselves (according to Russian reports). Besides, the very real stocks of Takfiri bioweapons were used as proof of Syrian government attacks (how insanely stupid is that?). So for these Takfiri nutcases, there are no real political consequences. As for their public image, following many hours of video-taped atrocities, you can be sure that they don’t care one bit what the “kafirs” and other “crusaders” think…

Same deal for Saddam Hussein who, aided by the “international community” (mostly the Empire, the USSR and France), did use chemicals against his own population and against Iran, but since he was “our son of a bitch” he was under ZERO risk of retaliation. But when the Empire turned on him, he did not dare to use his WMD against anybody.

Why?

Because the US-led forces would not be stopped by a chemical attack. And because any such attack would give the US and the rest of the anti-Iraqi coalition a “license” to use whatever weapon or technology against Iraq they wanted, including tactical nukes.

The truth is that there are very few military scenarios in which the use of WMD makes sense, this is true for all three of them, but this is especially true for biowarfare which is the hardest of them to control.

Here I have to, again, remind everybody that war is never an end by itself, but only a means towards an end, and that end is always POLITICAL. Going in just to kill people and even bombing a country back to the stone age does NOT qualify as a political goal. If you prefer, the political goal is what ought to be defined as “victory”. So, again, “destroying all enemy ships” or “pulling off a decapitating anti-leadership strike” are NOT political goals.

There are several countries out there which are capable of developing bioweapons. In fact, most biolabs could manufacture a simple bioweapon using commonly found agents. But labs don’t get to decide to engage such weapons. That decision is clearly one which can only be taken at the national command center level and only following a compelling argument by military and scientific specialists. Finally, no responsible government would ever order the use of WMD if it felt that there is a risk of retaliation, both military or political.

Finally, in the case of SARS-CoV-2 and of all the other epidemics/pandemics we see situation where the infection is not confined to the original infection site but goes global.

As far as I know, and please correct me if I am wrong, but I know if no virus which has been successfully deployed against a specific target and then remained contained to that target. In other words, the risk of “collateral damage” from bioweapons is pretty close to infinite (at least potentially).

Yes, in theory, a country could develop a new virus, or weaponize an known one, and then develop a vaccine and then vaccinate its armed forces or even its entire population. But that would amount to placing a huge sign on the White House saying “Yes, we done it!”: political suicide.

Now, the VAST majority of comments here have focused on the possible medical aspects of this pandemic, which is fine and which I have nothing to contribute to. But I ask you now to look at the MILITARY and, therefore, POLITICAL, dimensions of this crisis and ask yourself cui bono?

ORDER IT NOW

Seems to me that China and Russia did very, very well. The crisis is pretty much under control in China, and in Russia it is both limited and confined. The fact that neither the Chinese nor the Russians have any delusions about the “private sector” and the fact that these societies perfectly understand that a powerful government is needed to respond to this type (and many other) types of crisis helped them. No such luck for the deluded United States which has less than 950’000 hospital beds in the entire country and whose president seems to believe that Walmart and Amazon can deliver respirators to those in need.

In fact, the USA is a country which can LEAST afford a real pandemic, so why would the US leaders decide to unleash a weapon against comparatively MUCH better prepared countries while itself is one of the most vulnerable on the planet?

How about the fact that the situation in Europe looks absolutely awful? Yes, I know, the Idiot-in-Chief did not even bother to consult with the USA’s so-called “allies” before declaring his (confused) 30 day ban on travel between the US and the EU. But it is one thing to have no manners and not understand diplomacy, it is quite another to be the party responsible for tens of thousands, possibly even millions, of dead amongst your so-called “allies”.

So it boils down to this: do we believe that the real leaders of the AngloZionist Empire (not the clowns in the White House, obviously) insane enough to still try to pull off such an operation?

Frankly, I will not say “no”. I will admit that this is possible.

But, as I like to remind everybody, possible is NOT the same as “likely” and it dramatically different from “established”.

In conclusion:

  1. So far, all we have are speculations and guesses.
  2. We also know that irrespective of how “good”/”bad”/effective the SARS-CoV-2 virus is, using ANY WMD is fantastically dangerous both politically and militarily.
  3. And we know of no modern cases of a successful and limited viral bioweapon attack (bacteria and spores are rather different from that point of view)

Now this is my request to all the commentators:

Since we have discussed the biomedical aspects of SARS-CoV-2 ad nauseam, let’s stop for a while and let’s now ONLY discuss the political and military implications of a deliberate use of SARS-CoV-2 against China (or any other country).

There are two more things I would like to share with you.

First, I looked at the tweet of the Chinese official who declared that the SARS-CoV-2 might have come from the USA. I believe it is this one:

First, I looked at the tweet of the Chinese official who declared that the SARS-CoV-2 might have come from the USA. I believe it is this one:

It refers to this GlobalResearch article: https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196 . In turn, the GlobalResarch article references a GlobalTimes article: https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml . This latest article refers to the website ChinaXiv http://chinaxiv.org/home.htm (I think!). So what we have is a Chinese official, referencing a Canadian outlet, which references a Chinese source which itself bases its reports from a website clearly close to the Chinese government.

Now, unlike most folks in the West, I trust the Chinese government infinitely more than ANY western regime, but even I can see that once the China-bashing campaign swung to a totally new level once the SARS-CoV-2 panic began, the Chinese had a major political interest to point a finger right back at the USA.

In fact, I would argue that NO government out there wants to be blamed for this latest disaster and that the finger pointing is not going to stop, especially if a US politician dies from respiratory complications.

The other thing which will inevitably grow is panic. So far, relatively few people in the West have died, but most specialists agree that this crisis is far from over, especially not in the EU and USA where the epidemic it is still on the ascent. Right now, the general public in the West reminds me of a guy falling from a skyscraper and who, passing the 10th floor, thinks “so far, so good”. Friends, it *WILL* get worse, even if only 1 or 2 percent of the infected people die. I loathe both Merkel and Jonhson, but compared to the flag-waving “best Idiot-in-Chief in the galaxy”, they come across as almost honest politicians (at least and only in this case).

Finally, I want to post an extremely interesting interview by the Russian version of RT of the Academician and Chief Senior Pulmonologist of Russia, Aleksandr Chuchalin. This interview is EXTREMELY interesting and contains a wealth of important statements which, considering who is making them, I would be willing to take to the bank. One problem, this interview is only in Russian:

And here is my special request to all Russian speakers: if you can, could you please either 1) find the interview in English, maybe just a transcript or, if not, could you please translate as much of that interview as possible and post your translation in the comments section (or send it to me for posting)? If you cannot translate it all, at least post a summary of the most interesting points?

I wish I could do it myself, but I am really exhausted and, besides, there is a lot of medical terminology I don’t really understand. My wife does, but she is also exhausted. This is why I ask for your help (ребята – если честно, то просто сил нет, помогите если можете!).

That’s it for me for today.

 
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  1. Lot says:

    You’re right, Russia obviously is the one that benefits. You are wrong China does.

    Let me update my controversial comment from yesterday:

    All the evidence points to Covid-19 being a Russian bioweapon attack.

    1. Russia had the largest bioweapon program in world history during the Cold War.

    2. Russia is the only large cold winter country that has ZERO CV deaths.

    3. Also zero deaths in Russian proxy Belarus.

    4. Who’s suffering?

    A. US: stocks crashed and schools/economy shutting down.

    B. China is a giant and rising rival with a larger population and military than Russia and long land border with Russia.

    C. Korea is a US ally

    D. Russia wants Iran out of Syria now that Assad has just about finished off the Sunni revolt. Turmoil at home likely will see Iran’s involvement curtailed.

    E. Italy’s #2 party the Lega is a pro-Russian party that was recently forced out of the government coalition and replaced by an anti-Russian/pro-EU party. Now that government’s poor reaction may lead to Salvini becoming Prime Minister. (I do not think Salvini had anything to do with it.)

    5. Russian “tourists” are everywhere and Russia has the espionage infrastructure (high quality fake IDs, agents who blend in on the ground) to pull this off.

  2. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Nor simply U.S. but USrael.

    Fox News

    June 14

    China vows to develop ties with Iran after attack on tankers

    Chinese President Xi Jinping on Friday met with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani at a summit in Kyrgyzstan and reaffirmed Beijing’s willingness to develop ties with the country even as the U.S. placed the blame squarely on Tehran for the attack on two oil tankers near the Strait of Hormuz.

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-reaffirms-vow-to-develop-ties-with-iran-after-attack-on-tankers

    FP

    China’s Great Game in Iran
    Tehran needs a friend. Beijing may be a dangerous one.

    BY ALEX VATANKA | SEPTEMBER 5, 2019, 2:21 PM

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/05/chinas-great-game-in-iran/

    New York Times

    For China’s Global Ambitions, ‘Iran Is at the Center of Everything’

    By Thomas Erdbrink
    July 25, 2017

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/world/middleeast/iran-china-business-ties.html

    And of course, because China is friendly they are as bad as Nazi Germany:

    The Washington Post

    In China, every day is Kristallnacht

    By Fred Hiatt
    Editorial page editor
    November 3, 2019

    In China, every day is Kristallnacht.

    Eighty-one years ago this week, in what is also known as the “Night of Broken Glass,” hundreds of synagogues and Jewish cemeteries in Nazi Germany were damaged or destroyed, along with thousands of Jewish-owned businesses. It was in a sense the starting gun for the genocide that culminated in the extermination camps of Auschwitz, Sobibor and Treblinka.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/03/china-every-day-is-kristallnacht/?arc404=true

    When you see references to 1939 in propaganda you know who’s behind it.

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
    , @Quintus
  3. This article does not make any sense. Russia and China are allies. When you ask who benefits Russia does not come to mind.

    The fact that Russia closed the border to protect its’ people means they have more common sense than American leaders, not proof that they released the virus onto all of humanity.

    If CV is a bio-weapon I’d put my money on Israel as the source. I’ve been hearing of rumors of Israel working on race specific bio-weapons for many years. And of course Israel closed its’ border as well.

    If an elite is behind the virus, the goal is to usher in stronger forms of police state controls, death penalty for “anti-semitism,” Noahide Laws…..and if the world economy crashes hard enough they will “save” us with a new world currency and curtail all cash transactions….along with the implementation of a world wide social credit system for total control. Virus or not, this is where things are headed, with more and more centralization of power.

  4. EA says:

    The ONE man who this virus is helping more than anyone is Benjamin Netanyahu.

    He is going to get out of his trial because of the Coronavirus.

    The trial to put Netanyahu in jail is supposed to start March 17th. All of a sudden the entire country has basically given him immunity, without officially doing so. Such a sad state. I am sure Israel and Bibi have figured out who they needed to flip to get this desire.

    Cui Bono?

    How can it be anymore clearer?

    There are only three empires.

    The American Empire and its allies.

    The Chinese Empire and its allies.

    And the Israelis. They are the hidden empire that wishes to control the entire world.

    The virus first went to China and Iran, Israeli’s “fake” enemies.

    [MORE]

    Then it went to the US, it’s true enemy.

    Then it came to Israel so they could shut down their whole country and use their spy tech on all dissidents to kill off. They are already using their full anti-terrorist technology to track all “coronavirus” patients aka dissidents.

    China has killed off their dissidents. Israel is about to do the same.

    Will the US follow suit?

    Realize what they are trying to get you to do USA! Do not fall for their plan.

    Be your own country! Do not fall for Bibi’s plan. He is the one who is benefiting the most!

    Gantz better step up to the plate with Liberman and stop this man from staying in power!

    If Trump dies, it is none other than Benjamin Netanyahu who gave the order

    Look at his smirking fucking face. Pure evil.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/483157-israel-coronavirus-terrorism-netanyahu/

    Make no mistake, when the Israelis feel threatened, they will always crash the world to survive. That is the Israeli’s history since time began.

    Destroy the world. Survive. Thrive. Repeat. Until full control is established.

    As soon as they see their grasp loosening, they destroy the world and survive.

    Pathetic group of individuals.

    I will fully stand with Trump against Bibi and the Israeli aggression. Trump will support China and China will support Trump against Israel.

    Get some and hurrah.

    I think that the US knows, China knows, Russia knows that this was developed by Israel and the elites.

    Pirbright Institute/MIGAL (Israel) Donor Bill Gates and the Coronavirus Crime Against Humanity

    Stepping down from Microsoft Board is happening, but phony cover.

    Bill Gates is telling the Chinese of the bioweapon terrorist attack he’s had a part in on behalf of the Deep State/New World Order/Rothschild Zionist mafia based in London and Tel Aviv. Gates helped fund the creation of the weaponized coronavirus via the Pirbright Institute to help their dreams of mass population reduction and control.

    Dr. Charles Lieber of Harvard University arrested. His connection to Pirbright and MIGAL is under investigation.

    Israel’s MIGAL (Galilee Research Institute) just happens to have a vaccine ready for trials in a week or two? BS.

    Trump is locking down America, getting families together, and getting everyone’s attention as he puts an end to this mass treason and gives the world the full narrative of what has been going on.

    Now you can see that Israel is pushing China to blame the US. One empire is pushing both empires to blame the other while the hidden empire bunkers down and waits for collapse. That is whaat they have always done. This time I believe will be different. I think Russia, China, and USA will be in cahoots against the insanity of the Israelis and WW3 and collapse will be prevented.

    He is going to expose the Israelis or die trying. Get some Trump! Praying for his safety!

    Be a man Trump! Do what you born for!

    https://medium.com/@BlindHouseMagazine/the-one-man-who-this-virus-is-helping-more-than-anyone-is-benjamin-netanyahu-7cebe2429a63

  5. Kim says:
    @Lot

    5. Russian “tourists” are everywhere and Russia has the espionage infrastructure (high quality fake IDs, agents who blend in on the ground) to pull this off.

    You’re right! Russia also has Boris and Natasha. And what does the US have? Just a moose and a stupid squirrel!

  6. The timing with the US presidential campaign should also be considered. Destroy the economy, take away the Trump rally, give Trump enough rope to hang himself, kill off older (white) voters, lead to increase in mail in ballots or ballot by app. I don’t think regime change would be a primary driver for this, but could be a factor.

    Chinese leadership wins at home by having an alternative reason for the poor economy, using as an opportunity for killing off dissidents (how are the Uighurs doing with this?), and otherwise tightening grip on the populace. Who knows, China might like the economic effects of killing off older, sick people.

    Weren’t China and Russia buying up lots of gold not that long ago? Seems like a pretty good move in retrospect.

    Russian oil pumping dispute with Saudis is also taking place at this time. Very interesting.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  7. Annie H. says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I agree completely. That’s not Russia for sure.

    In Canada it’s clear: all five main newspapers (controlled by French and English zionists) are unanimous: the government must intervene and take full control of the population.

    Canadian soldiers are now asked to help the Canadian population but why? Canadian soldiers are not nurses nor paramedics.

    The TIMING says all: they want to use the chaos the COV will create to attack Iran (it will be the 6th or 7th attempt as described by Sey Hersh in Which Path to Persia). COV is just to distract the mass while NATO will launch its attack on Iran.

    Quebec’s Francois Legault, who is a kind of Joe Biden, is an anti-Russia, an anti-orthodox, a liar and manipulator, ready to sell Quebec nationalized hydro-electricity companies to New York. He seems to obey to Washington like Trudeau.

    Legault says he will get extraordinary power to order mandatory vaccination, obtain data and private info on all citizens even in situations where the government cannot, legally speaking, access private data on a citizen.

    The monster ordered than elders (70 and older) stay locked in their home!

    We are denied the right to visit our elders who are virtually “emprisoned” in state-controlled long-term care centers. That’s monstrous.

  8. @Lot

    Your contribution has the merit, however much some would like to characterise it as trolling, that it makes a logically plausible speculative case with no more obvious flaws than any other speculation on these threads and thereby puts everyone’s pet theories in perspective.

    Perhaps the same could be said of my suggestion that most known facts are consistent with accidental release or pure chance in Wuhan and Israel taking advantage to release its version in Iran. I mentioned the coincidence of Israeli claims to be well advance in developing a vaccine.

  9. Sean says:

    In Italy there are 21,157 cases and 1,441 deaths, giving an Italian Coronavirus Death Rate of 7%. My niece is a specialised nurse in the UK and has a patient with coronavirus. It is nothing much according to her; the patient is doing fine. Only nine people (0.2 % of coronavirus cases) in Germany have died.

    Italy is a very nepotistic country with even professionals such as lawyers (Amanda Knox) and doctors occupying positions without really knowing what they’re doing. I think the deaths there are due to incompetence that you could not find in Germany. And, sad to say, cowardice because it seems Italian doctors are keeping away from their parents. The alternative is to believe that Germans have some great genetic difference from Italians. Even taking into consideration that hypertension is the condition that makes you most likely to die of the Coronavirus and German doctors are the only ones in the world to treat low blood pressure as a bad thing, and so are likely to undertreat high blood pressure and thus not put people on ACE inhibitors …

    https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m606/rr-10
    Indeed, based upon the clear-cut evidence of an ACE inhibitor-induced upregulation of ACE2 previously shown in murine models (7), this could additionally speed-up viral uptake and host’s pulmonary tissue colonization, should a similar mechanism of ACE2 upregulation take place also in SARS-CoV-2-infected humans”

    … it seems to me that Winston was right.

    At a dinner with Churchill, Ribbentrop had said that, in a future war with Britain, Germany would have the Italians on its side. Churchill, referring to Italy’s poor record in the First World War, responded with one of his devastating verbal flashes: “That’s only fair – we had them last time.”

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Hempus
    , @Pheasant
  10. JUSA says:
    @Lot

    Doesn’t make sense whatsoever. Russia and China are BFF these days, why would Russia want to attack one of their biggest customers and closest allies?

    I would sooner believe Israel did this to hurt China, Iran and Europe.

    But at the end of the day, I don’t believe this is a bioweapon. I think it came from the wet market. The Chinese have the most disgusting eating habit. The rest of the world should ban entry of their people until they bring their hygiene to first world standards which includes closing of all wet markets.

  11. Walter says:

    Francis Boyle says 100% BSL4 biolabs are weapon labs and 100% BSL labs leak (and 100% BSL Lbs are illegal). ” Francis Boyle: Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyujjitOFM

    If, as expert Boyle says, they all leak…then these leak weapons – perhaps similarly to the fallout from bomb tests creating a background of poisons, these labs create a background of disease.

    But there is strong evidence that the US used biowar from 01 January 1952 in Korea and China

    REPORT
    OF THE
    INTERNATIONAL SCIENTIFIC COMMISSION
    FOR THE
    INVESTIGATION OF THE FACTS CONCERNING
    BACTERIAL WARFARE IN KOREA AND CHINA (https://mronline.org/2018/02/21/the-long-suppressed-korean-war-report-on-u-s-use-of-biological-weapons-released-at-last/ )

    I cannot find an end-date for the use in Korea or China.

    It’s obvious that diseases of livestock have been introduced into Cuba… Some of these are viral.

  12. It came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology:

    https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/4/1899

    In this study, a human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-based pseudovirus system was employed to address these issues. Our results indicated that the SL-CoV S protein is unable to use ACE2 proteins of different species for cell entry and that SARS-CoV S protein also failed to bind the ACE2 molecule of the horseshoe bat, Rhinolophus pearsonii. However, when the RBD of SL-CoV S was replaced with that from the SARS-CoV S, the hybrid S protein was able to use the huACE2 for cell entry, implying that the SL-CoV S proteins are structurally and functionally very similar to the SARS-CoV S. These results suggest that although the SL-CoVs discovered in bats so far are unlikely to infect humans using ACE2 as a receptor, it remains to be seen whether they are able to use other surface molecules of certain human cell types to gain entry. It is also conceivable that these viruses may become infectious to humans if they undergo N-terminal sequence variation, for example, through recombination with other CoVs, which in turn might lead to a productive interaction with ACE2 or other surface proteins on human cells.

    Essentially, in 2007 Shi Zhengli, lead researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (only 20 miles from the wet market: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/23/22/23795084-0-image-a-3_1579817027497.jpg) was creating synthetic bat coronavirus strains capable of utilizing human pulmonary ACE2 receptors–which is exactly what COVID-19 does.

    COVID-19 (or whatever the politically correct name is) was either a bioweapon, or some theoretical recombinant strain they were studying (to preempt the next SARS), when someone released it, either intentionally or not. Perhaps a researcher got infected and then spread it throughout Wuhan, or perhaps a lab tech stole infected lab animals to sell at the wet market.

    Now, because of this lab, millions of people will die.

    And the 50 centers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party ) are now out in force on the Unz Review shilling for the CCP.

    • Agree: SteveK9
    • Troll: d dan
  13. Scott Humor’s translation of the video provided by Saker of Russian pulmonary specialist, Dr Aleksandr Chuchalin : https://thesaker.is/how-to-treat-coronavirus-infection-covid-19/

    Not a very pretty read. Those who get the virus bad, and survive the pneumonia, are likely to have pretty scarred up lungs once they recover, if we can call it that. Let’s hope not. But with the Han Chinese supposedly having a vastly larger ACE-2 presence in their lungs than other races, it would seem this virus is uniquely able (designed?) to cripple the Chinese long-term, via creating a vast population of people with significant pulmonary problems (pulmonary fibrosis) for the remainder of their lives, and perhaps more likely to have terrible problems requiring extensive medical care should they ever become re-infected in the future. All of which would be significant burdens on the PRC’s future.

    Hopefully, the Chinese government’s overwhelming response to the virus will minimize this possibility.

    Let’s also hope this nasty bug doesn’t decimate the seniors in the USA. If it does, one can already hear the MSM whipping the proles into an anti-China frenzy with, “Them damn Chinese killed your grandma and grandpa!”

    And if the virus was engineered, maybe that was some pre-planned fortuitous blow-back that cuts down on the aging boomer “useless eaters” (as the supreme useless eater Dick Cheney called them), and which thereby offers enormous opportunities for world-wide anti-China propagandizing (and perhaps even a possible casus belli for the next president to mull over after the 2020 election….. )

    • Agree: Quintus
    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Daniel Rich
  14. @anon (from 4chan)

    Now, unlike most folks in the West, I trust the Chinese government infinitely more than ANY western regime, but even I can see that once the China-bashing campaign swung to a totally new level once the SARS-CoV-2 panic began, the Chinese had a major political interest to point a finger right back at the USA.

    In fact, I would argue that NO government out there wants to be blamed for this latest disaster and that the finger pointing is not going to stop, especially if a US politician dies from respiratory complications.

    It smacks of desperation.

    The CCP can read the tea leaves. They realize that at best, the world will blame the disgusting eating habits of their citizens and the wet markets that cater to them for the pandemic, and at worst, will assume that it was released from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, intentionally or not.

    It’s also clear that the CCP is exerting its influence over western MSM outlets, including the NYT and WaPo:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/16/tom-cotton-coronavirus-conspiracy/

    Which makes the posturing of Unz Review authors (including Ron) as if they’re contrarians by defending the CCP seem ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  15. gotmituns says:

    What about vegetative warfare? Look at what the American Indians did to the world – TOBACCO!!!

  16. Contrary to (natural) public opinion, current use of biological weapons is not directed to killing the enemy. It is instead a formidable weapon of economic war, able to do to China what a trade war could not do. China has experienced six of these in the two years of ‘trade war’: bird flu, swine flu, bird flu again, more swine flu, more bird flu, coronavirus, more bird flu. Not bad. In each case cui bono? – China must purchase more US agricultural products, and finally (and hopefully) China’s economy craters, growth stops and the Imperial Master continues to reign supreme.

    It can be argued that the US most likely assumed “acceptable losses”, given that the outbreak was so far from American soil. Some amount of medical blowback was anticipated, but not the political kind that is now nipping at the heels of the White House and its handlers.

    As someone said, all truth has three stages. First, it is ignored, then it is ridiculed, then it is accepted as self-evident. We are at stage two. The US and UK media are now in concert, reading from the same script, attempting to trash the groundswell of opinion that the virus originated at Fort Detrick and was brought to China during the World Military Games. Chinese, Japanese, and Taiwanese virologists have all independently concluded the virus (1) did NOT originate in China, and (2) it originated in the US.

    There are very sound geopolitical reasons for the US to attack China, Iran and Italy. The other countries may merely be unfortunate but irrelevant collateral damage.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Blackjack
  17. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    So it boils down to this: do we believe that the real leaders of the AngloZionist Empire (not the clowns in the White House, obviously) insane enough to still try to pull off such an operation?

    Frankly, I will not say “no”. I will admit that this is possible.

    I think it’s closer to “yes” than “no”.

    The “elites” in charge of the Empire are openly genociding the white race while its minions’ public narratives are oscillating between gloating and transparent attempts at obfuscation. This is a crime of unprecedented scale which completely dwarfs the current Coronavirus pandemic so we shouldn’t even be asking if they have the (((chutzpah))) to do it. It’s also a crime that damages their host populations on a much, much larger and lasting scale than the virus so anyone who believes that they care about “self-inflicted” wounds to the US or Europe is not paying attention.

    • Agree: tomo
  18. Big James says:
    @Lot

    What have you been smoking ?Russia unleashing bio weapon at her allies (China and Iran) ? The reason for low fatalities in Russia is because the perpetrators know Russia is capable and will strike back harder and faster.

    • Replies: @Lot
  19. Google says:

    There’s flaw in your logic.

    You say this:

    In fact, the USA is a country which can LEAST afford a real pandemic, so why would the US leaders decide to unleash a weapon against comparatively MUCH better prepared countries while itself is one of the most vulnerable on the planet?

    It’s because US didn’t think the virus would leak to US. They based this during 2003 SARS outbreak. SARS outbreak was also biological weapon attack, but it was meant to test China readiness and it was revealed that China was swift and decisive that’s why the virus didn’t leak to other countries much. US when releasing COVID-19 had this in mind, they thought the virus would be contained in China and Chinese economy would suffer and it wouldn’t touch US at all, this explains why after outbreak in Wuhan US gov did nothing to prepare.

  20. What kind of dirt bag gets up in the morning and goes to work creating new diseases? This is why I am a misanthrope.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @tomo
    , @SteveK9
  21. KB says:

    I think Russia and China have nothing to gain from this and much to lose. They are just patiently waiting for the USA to fall apart from debt and other contradictions and are wise enough not to try to hasten the process. This probably is another major societal reset from above like the Kennedy assassination and 9/11. The terrorism excuse for more progress toward a police state and population control has largely run its course and now it will be the pandemic excuse. The globalization trend will be reversed, all the economic sins of the bankers will be blamed on the virus and a lot of old-timers will be removed from the social security rolls. God help us all. The devil really is in charge of the universe.

  22. Two assumptions made in this article are false…

    The people who pull the puppet strings are globalists, their aspirations aren’t aligned with any specific national interest… It’s just as likely that (IF this is a bio-weapon) then the target is (pretty much) everyone.

    Second, it assumes that the US acts as if it considers blow-back something to take in to consideration. It doesn’t.. The US behaves effectively like an extraordinarily dimwitted hired thug. You just have to look at the last couple of decades of US foreign policy to confirm that… The puppet master would be quite happy to unleash merry hell on the world and wouldn’t care in the slightest if America took the blame, even if that took the form of Americans being cast as pariahs for all eternity.

    The assholes at the top of the pyramid would probably count that (throwing Americans) in to the pit as a hilarious, cherry on top, bonus.

    • Agree: Tor597
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @I M
    , @Quintus
  23. Alfred says:

    The glee displayed by the Zionist-controlled press of the West is obvious. They are delighted to report massive areas being dug up to rapidly bury the Muslims of that country – the Zoroastrians are buried in concrete tombs.

    Trenches in city of Qom confirm worst fears about extent of the epidemic and the government’s subsequent cover-up

    In the grand scheme of things, this number of dead or even 10 or 100 times as many will not change anything strategic. Their rockets are still there and pointed at Israel and US bases in the Middle East. Doubtless, these remote and buried emplacements are quarantined. Unlike American and Israeli soldiers, these people can live on bread, fresh vegetables and handfuls of beans for months.

    For ordinary Iranians, regardless whether it is true or not, they believe that the Israelis and their American stooges launched this attack.

    It will be interesting to see the panic in the West over the next few months. Will the media change its approach? The coverage of the Italian drama is profoundly different from the coverage of China’s agony. Double standards.

  24. “…let’s now ONLY discuss the political and military implications of a deliberate use of SARS-CoV-2 against China (or any other country).”

    Since the author has effectively presented a reasonable case to support the notion that the release of the virus in Wuhan was not deliberate, the question then needs to be answered, whether the subsequent emergence of infections in Iran derived from carriers of the same virus that had spread in China.

    The quote below appears to suggest this was not the case, though it does not clarify whether the Italian variety is similar to the Iranian variety.

    If valid, it appears more reasonable to presume that an independent release in Iran would have been deliberate, using the spread in China as cover, in which case a particular suspect readily comes to mind.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-further-evidence-virus-originated-us/5706078

    Part of the proof of this assertion is that the genome varieties of the virus in Iran and Italy have been sequenced and declared to have no part of the variety that infected China and must, by definition, have originated elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Quintus
  25. I M says:

    While I do appreciate another perspective and do agree with much of the reasoning I do believe that both Sakers analysis and Mr Unz calculation of the probabilities and patterns have gone about it with I sufficient context in mind. Here we consider the idea that ‘any’ bio warfare attack is implausible because it would ‘backfire’, ‘bring about massive retaliation’ etc… However we fail to consider in these analysis all of the other much more probable bio warfare attacks that have none of the purported drawbacks and truly satisfied their designated goals, that being the ‘bird flu’, ‘fall army worms’ and the ‘african swine fever’ that perfectly satisfy the requirements set by Saker in that:

    1. They specifically target a Chinese industry that can be considerd a weak point for the Chinese I.e food self sufficiency.

    2. Many of them come at an opportune time during a trade war where the ‘political goal’ is to force the Chinese to buy more agri products, so we have our political objective satisfied.

    3. From what I understand these occurrences are mostly localised to China and have yet to make their way a cross the pacific. Do correct me if I’m wrong. So we can tick that off the list.

    4. They don’t generally kill too many people, therefore don’t inspire an obligation to ‘shed blood’ in return.

    So Mr Unz I recommend that you broaden your analysis of the probabilities to include all possible implementations of bio warfare and follow the line of reasoning that even if one, two? Three! Of these are random occurrences what are the probabilities that these are all ‘coincidence’ that perfectly coincide with geostrategic events.

  26. Realist says:

    As always everyone picks their favorite bogeyman as the attacker, using the latest weapon…in this case Covid-19.

  27. Saker pretends that all these “nations”, the US, China, Germany, Russia, etc. are sovereign. They are not. They are merely provinces of the ZOG empire living under Noahide law.

    Throughout European and US history secret societies have been steering events and history, as well as mind controlling the plebians. These secret societies are international and recognize no official borders. George Washington was 33 degree and Ben Franklin had a heavy hand in the Masonic French Revolution. Secret society control has not decreased over the centuries, and if one pays attention one can see how they proudly broadcast their influence and control.

    In the case of CV19 the number 33 has been popping up with startling frequency. Then there is the ridiculous lack of concern for social distancing on display by our masters everywhere across the west. Many other events give hints that something far bigger is lurking in the back ground than merely this virus. 5G, forced vaccination, internet censorship, and even taking the chip are woven into this crisis.

    These secret societies have been be broadcasting their desire to reduce the global population for over a century, there is every reason to suspect that this was a highly coordinated international release.

  28. Bob says:

    If coronavirus is a deliberately used bio-weapon, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) should be a major suspect based on the following thought process:

    As CCP realized it had lost the trade war with USA, it released the coronavirus in China (probably in Wuhan). They knew the virus would spread throughout the world. Releasing the virus in China provided them with plausible deniability.

    Due to the predictable global outbreak, CCP knew it would save face domestically for having lost the trade war, gain an excuse to seize more power and an excuse for a bad economy. The virus also buries Hong Kong news and rallies the public. Authoritarian CCP is well-equipped to deal with the virus and has a head-start on USA and rest of world. Their handling of the virus showcases the “superiority” of their system and the weakness of the capitalist system that defeated them. It also solves their economic obligations to the elderly and unwell.

    From CCP point of view, other benefits are the virus harms the Western dominated capitalist system, harms USA, harms Trump, stops Trump rallies. Since the virus will be discovered to be a bio-weapon made in USA (or probably/plausibly made in USA), CCP gains propaganda points and possibly other benefits as well, including even stronger plausible deniability for having released the virus themselves.

    A simple way to summarize is: CCP is a zero-sum thinker; since it lost the trade war and its ability to parasitize the world trade system they opted to fuck up the world’s shit.

    • LOL: bluedog
  29. Alfred says:

    It might interest the Saker to know what I have learnt through the grapevine from Ukrainian medical contacts.

    It appears that hospitals in the east of Ukraine, in government-controlled Lugansk Oblast, are being emptied of their patients. They are transferring them elsewhere. The intention is to use these hospitals for treating coronavirus patients for all of Ukraine. They dare not use hospitals in the Lvov region for this purpose as they are afraid of armed opposition by the Fascists of that region.

    Jewish community slams ‘scandalous event’ honoring the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (Times of Israel)

    I am sure many of you are aware that all international flights from Ukraine are stopping at midnight on 16/03/20 (tomorrow). Trains to Poland are also stopping.

    The situation on the border with the Lugansk region is bad with massive population movements in both directions. Yesterday, people were panicking and getting hurt in the crush. There is a rush in both directions as some people need to collect their pensions in the west but they live in the east. 🙁

  30. Not the clearest article, but an important fact stands out for me: bio-weapons are rather unpredictable. Just shifts in the wind, for example, can represent a problem.

    Were they more predictable, I think it likely the US would have used them a good deal in all its colonial wars since the end of WWII. Other states too.

    Although fear of attribution in such dark matters might play a role in prevention. But it sure didn’t in the use of napalm or white phosphorus or cluster bombs or Agent Orange or fire-bombing or nuclear weapons – all of which have been openly used with no apologies. The Pentagon has embraced landmines too.

    The US certainly has developed and kept bio-weapons in the recent past. Remember the anthrax attack and scare of 2001? That was military-grade anthrax.

    It is claimed that the US did use some kind of bio-weapon in North Korea and perhaps in the adjoining area of China during the Korean War. I’ve seen references to that several times in the past.

    I don’t know, but the US was certainly utterly ruthless in that war. Three years of carpet-bombing killed one-fifth of the country’s entire population, and that’s a number from a Pentagon source.

    Of course, that hellish experience has a lot to do with North Korea’s sacrificing a great deal to develop nuclear weapons and its not wanting to give them up.

    The US Cavalry is said by some sources to have used small-pox laden blankets, given as gifts, in its Indian Wars of the 19th century. I don’t know whether that is proved, but the Cavalry did many other ruthless acts, including the wiping out of whole villages.

    I tend to be a stickler for proof, so when I read an article like Philip Giraldi’s one on who made coronavirus, I am very interested but take no position. That was a superb article, by the way.

    When it comes to matters of war, I think we always have to keep in mind that war and the people who run it are not rational. So, the use of bio-weapons is not precluded by rational considerations about their predictability and spread.

    Not only are a fair number of psychopaths (eg, Curtis LeMay) and extreme narcissists (eg, Douglas MacArthur) involved in the military, but just hate itself is a form of temporary insanity.

    Giraldi gave the excellent example of the Stuxnet computer virus, a very dangerous weapon believed developed by the US and Israel. It was used against Iran, and it leaked out to many other places, creating some serious hazards. Clearly, the warlords hating Iran didn’t care.

    It is an odd coincidence that a group of American military had visited the region of China where coronavirus broke out, and you certainly can understand some Chinese being very suspicious about it.

    Some pretty vicious hatreds pour out of the US anymore towards China and Russia and Iran.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  31. Ron Unz has speculated that the US attacked China by releasing the virus in Wuhan. At least equally plausible (that is: not very) is alternately that China attacked the world by releasing the virus in Wuhan:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/why-does-india-churn-out-fewer-epidemics-than-china/#comment-3771832 (#112)

    • Replies: @Patricus
  32. @Lot

    With this logic, and “connect the dots” approach, the chief suspect would be India: because the first victim was China.

    This pandemic was not instigated by a state. Maybe by a death cult: ( e.g. Aum Shinrikyo ).

    At this point it does not matter. What matters is how the state is reacting / responding.

    Hint: completely opportunistic, unprincipled and selfish .

    It is the year of the rat:

    They may hold some power and are able to turn unlucky events into fortune.

    This is a World War One moment – many “empires” will fall.

    As for we, the little people, spring is here, enjoy the fine weather. Take a walk in the sun.

  33. dearieme says:

    It’s also my (completely inexpert) view that it’s not a bioweapon attack.

    The notion that it might have started as an accidental escape from a research lab isn’t absurd but there doesn’t seem to be much if any evidence for it.

  34. Coronavirus is NOT a bioweapon. This not-a-bioweapon was NOT used by The United States to attack China. End of discussion. Lijian Zhao, despite his excellent command of English, is, to judge by his inane “tweets”, a total moron. The chief value of this article is that The Faker has unintentionally revealed that he was never a professional ” military analyst for NATO” as he has claimed. This occurs in the paragraph that begins with “I am a total medical ignoramus”. The clincher is his second definition of ” operational art”: “the level at which combined arms (above division level) formations are brought together in something similar to an army corps.” This statement is a meaningless slurry. An army Corps is three Divisions, so of course, if “formations are brought together” “(above division level)”, you get an army Corps, and that is certainly not a definition for ” operational art”. Let’s look at The Faker’s first definition of “operational art”: ” you can think of it as what connects the tactical means to the strategic goals”. Besides being cribbed from a sub-mediocre Wikipedia article, The Faker never enlightens us as to what “it” is that “connects”, and being an ex military analyst(and a specialist in operational art) he should be able to. The Faker is obviously a bullshitter, but bullshitters need a source to riff off of. It is my opinion that he has in the past read a crappy essay on Soviet Deep Battle, didn’t understand it and has a spotty memory of it. His yakking about “combined arms formations” and “something similar to an army corps” reminds me of the organization of a Soviet Shock Corps circa WWII, where Rifle Divisions were reinforced with a Tank Brigade, Heavy Tank Regiments, Artillery Regiments, Air Divisions, and other units, and made up the First Eschelon, employing infiltration tactics to break up the opposition’s Tactical Zone into numerous small encirclements. The “operational art” stuff comes from his muddled memory of Soviet Deep Battle’s division of the battlefield into a Tactical Zone, an Operational Zone, and the Strategic Depth. It is from this that The Faker produces the meaningless phrase “what connects the tactical means to the strategic goals”. Behind the Tactical Zone is the Operational Zone, supporting the Tactical Zone and containing command centers, supply depots etc. After the First Eschelon and it’s heavy tanks have neutralized the Tactical Zone the Second Eschelon and it’s faster medium tanks pass through the numerous gaps and wreck havoc in the Operational Zone, resulting in command paralysis. The Strategic Depth is more of a concept, it was expected the opposition would retreat into the Strategic Depth and build a new Tactical Zone/Operational Zone.

    • Troll: ploni almoni, FB
    • Replies: @bluedog
  35. Herald says:
    @Lot

    And what’s more you know all this because your CIA/Mossad friends told you? You must be sailing close to the wind and it’s a very good job for you, that Ron Unz is tolerant of trolls.

  36. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Those TBTF Wall Street casinos got around 2 TRILLION last week to prop up their bad debts, but no one is asking any questions about why we’re bailing out those gangster outfits again.
    Bet they get anudda’ large stimulus package this week and people will be too scared to notice.

    Ask yourself this: Why, of all things to prep with, have people been herded into buying TP till the shelves were bare?

    • Replies: @Anon
  37. Alfred says:

    I want to post an extremely interesting interview by the Russian version of RT of the Academician and Chief Senior Pulmonologist of Russia, Aleksandr Chuchalin. This interview is EXTREMELY interesting and contains a wealth of important statements which, considering who is making them, I would be willing to take to the bank. One problem, this interview is only in Russian

    How to treat Coronavirus infection COVID-19 – Written translation of the video interview above

  38. Herald says:
    @Robert Dolan

    This article does not make any sense. Russia and China are allies. When you ask who benefits Russia does not come to mind.

    I am guessing that in the above you are addressing Lot, who is just one of the regular zio-gatekeepers who stalk the UR, rather than the substance of The Saker’s article.

  39. It could have been a simple accidental leak from the University of Wuhan’s BSL-4 facility, which is across the river from the market where COVID was first identified. Reportedly there have been several leaks of SARS from a similar lab in Beijing.

    It is interesting that a student of the Harvard professor arrested by the FBI in January was caught at Boston’s Logan Airport attempting to smuggle “21 vials of biological materials” to China in his luggage. ( https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related ) It is unprecedented for a senior Harvard official (the distinguished Chair of Harvard’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department) to be taken into custody this way. He is charged with lying to the FBI about his ongoing association with the Wuhan University of Technology, which he claimed had ended in 2012. His online bios have been recently amended to state he had “no involvement” with the Coronavirus, though his field is nanotechnology and its application to medicine, biology, computing, etc.

  40. @Couch scientist

    The timing with the US presidential campaign should also be considered. Destroy the economy, take away the Trump rally, give Trump enough rope to hang himself, kill off older (white) voters, lead to increase in mail in ballots or ballot by app. I don’t think regime change would be a primary driver for this, but could be a factor.

    Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

    Let’s just say that the “eating bats obtained in wet markets” hypothesis is the Magic Bullet Theory for our times.

  41. An excerpt from my own article on COVID-19:

    A Weapon Of Convenience? COVID-19 as a biological bullet to the brain.

    Now, I admit I’m not a microbiologist. I am not a weapons designer. And while I am certain that micro-organisms have been and are being actively researched for use as biological weapons, I have no direct or indirect knowledge about them. Therefore the following statements will be a mixture of speculation mixed with common sense.

    I’ll say this first and get it over with: if used on anything but a small scale, biological weapons are stupid. Let’s say you want to annihilate a small country, for instance something about the size of Rwanda. Then you might be able to use something relatively quick acting and very lethal, something of the order of Ebola, and you might be able to temporarily cause some devastation. Not total annihilation because the infected people will soon die before they can spread around the infection too far. But you could kill some tens of thousands, maybe. You couldn’t do much more.

    Now in a small country (like Rwanda again) this may represent a relatively big blow. But try it in a country the size of China? That’s a drop in the ocean. The outbreak will be swiftly sealed off and controlled. It won’t even be a stumbling block. In other words, it’s pointless.

    Or you could create a disease with a long incubation period, which would spread far and wide before it manifested itself. But by the same standards it would spread far and wide. With the massive amount of international travel these days it would not, could not, stay confined to your target country. It would, sooner rather than later – if you’ve got the facilities for biological weapons research, you’re a relatively rich and powerful country with a lot of international traffic – come back to hit you.

    Perhaps you could – I don’t know if it’s even possible – tailor your biological weapon to attack a particular racial group, by matching it to some characteristic in the target group’s genome. Now that itself creates more problems for you.

    First: Almost no racial group is confined to one single country, and those that are, are typically minorities even within that country. For instance, you are, let’s say, an enemy of the People’s Republic of China. You therefore create a virus to attack Chinese. But Chinese are East Asians who share their genes with other East Asian nations, some of which – South Korea, Japan, and the so-called nation of “Taiwan” – are your “allies” (to be more accurate, vassals), and also, having considerable trade relations with China, will get infected almost immediately. Then there are substantial numbers of ethnic Chinese living in other vassal nations, like Singapore, and in your own country, not to speak of Quisling-infested Hong Kong, which your own colonial possession Britain is desperate to recolonise. Those Quislings, being ethnic Chinese, would be eradicated by your germs, and that would be slightly awkward for you.

    Or you could create germs to eliminate, say, the Derung ethnic group in China. Which would lead you to eliminate….the 7000 Derung in the People’s Republic of China.

    Second: as I said above, viruses have an extraordinarily high mutation rate. Basically, if a gene in the virus can change, at some point it will do so. The genes you’ve lovingly fitted to receptors in East Asian lungs will – before you can say biogenocide – turn right round and mutate into forms that hunger to attach to receptors in your own, non-Chinese lungs, and then where are you?

    Where Amerikastan and its EUvassals are headed for, I suspect.

    There is only one way even a limited biological weapon makes some kind of sense. That’s if you target the weapon, not at people, but at something of enormous economic value to said people. For instance suppose you have a nation whose economy is dependent on, oh, sugar, or bananas (a literal banana republic). You create a disease that will attack only sugarcane or bananas, and you can probably do massive damage to their economy. If it’s a food staple like yams, you may even be able to create a food shortage or famine. But you can’t do it if you attack the people directly. And if your target is a very large and diverse country, you can’t do it at all.

  42. Now, unlike most folks in the West, I trust the Chinese government infinitely more than ANY western regime, but even I can see that once the China-bashing campaign swung to a totally new level once the SARS-CoV-2 panic began, the Chinese had a major political interest to point a finger right back at the USA.

    I would agree with this take.

    • Replies: @Lot
  43. MLK says:
    @Lot

    I get why The Saker feels the need to include self-protective swipes at Trump — even pro-Russian/Putin analysts have their place when the next gambit to remove him is rolled out, but I still keep waiting for him to develop some respect for himself.

    In any event, Qui Bono is the conspiracy theorizing of fools. As if the moving conspiratorial party never thought that linear thinking through and incorporated it into planning.

    That assumes, of course, that there was a conspiracy along the lines propounded or, cravenly, merely alluded to. Which, of course, always present as bald exercises in Bias Conformation.

    As I’ve mentioned before, it’s essential to accept that there is functionally no connection between the actual event/incident/attack subject to conspiracy theories and the event/incident/attack itself. In other words, no one is engaged in a search for the truth, except insofar as it serves their interests presently or going forward. Both offensively and defensively.

    I will note that most vocal observers are like The Saker. They’re exceedingly interested in conspiracy theorizing when they think it is a way to score points for their team, so to speak; not so much when the other way around.

    All that said, the Chinese sources you cite for the proposition that this virus “might have come from the USA,” are one side in the traded conspiracy theory shots between the USG and CCP China. Specifically, in all likelihood, Senator Cotton’s emanations.

  44. @Anonymous

    Nor simply U.S. but USrael.

    Lately it seems, all the HOT AIR is deflated from Netanyahu. He seems very, very unhappy!

    He and Israel are under so much uncertainty, even from USA too!

  45. Republic says:

    The US is currently stopping any movement of troops for 60 days,so why is the US sending over20,000 troops to many parts of Europe for the Defender Europe-20 exercises now?

  46. Steve Hatfill, a friend of bright medical guy, repeatedly made the point to me that America was utterly unprepared for a biological attack, for all the reasons we are now seeing. He also said that plague existed inprairie dog populations out west and that with plastic milk jugs and other common things it could be amplified to attack quantities. While the assertions that he was behind the anthrax attacks by mail are absurd–his head didn’t work that way–he had a well developed sense of humor and I strongly suspect, with no evidence, that he was behind the phony anthrax placed outside B’nai Brith.. The press, apparently thinking anthrax was contagious, made fools of themselves, but did not think about poor preparedness. Good try, Steve, maybe.

  47. In my opinion coronavirus was created by Israel and the ZUS to be used as a bioweapon against China and Russia and Iran and also to give the excuse for a total lockdown and installation of further police state controls than were accomplished by the Israeli and ZUS attack on the WTC, this is another giant step to a OWG by the satanic zionists who are in control of this bioweapon attack on America.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, tomo, Quintus
  48. Bob says:

    One problem not mentioned is we still do not have a definitive analysis of what the coronavirus is. A proper analysis would tell us if it is even possible for this virus to have evolved naturally. If natural evolution is not possible (e.g. it is clearly a chimera), then we will know it is a bio-weapon that either escaped or was deliberately released. The other problem is which scientists will be willing or able to provide the public with a truthful analysis of the virus? We have seen how 9/11 silenced most professional physicists and structural engineers and how those who were not silenced never received MSM exposure, except to be ridiculed.

    Surely, governments know what the virus is and who made it. If they do not tell the public, and so far they have not, we can infer that it probably is a bio-weapon or that govt silence is being used to manipulate the public. Many vectors point to it being a US/Canada bio-weapon that was sold, stolen, or loaned to China. How can US admit that? Or China? Many layers to this issue.

    • LOL: Wally
    • Replies: @Wally
  49. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon (from 4chan)

    washingtonpost

    tom-cotton

    LOL!

  50. vot tak says:

    There is a serious lock down on who is getting severely sick from this disease outside East Asia, at least in what I’ve seen in my limited reading. Italy and Iran have seen a lot of deaths. But who is dying there?

    Keep in mind a disease that affects a specific genetic group more harmfully than other genetic groups can be a very desirable bio weapon by those of the genetic group affected much less. Do the math. And also the intimate affiliation of westerm media of all sorts with obscuring and falsifying info that can give their massas’ strategy away.

    One other thing. A bio attack disease does not have to be lab engineered. It could also involve the deliberate speading a rare, recently isolated/discovered/mutated strain of a naturally occurring disease that has the necessary qualifications to be used as a bio weapon against a targeted genetic group.

    While it isn’t proved that the disease is part of a biowarfare strategy, the reasons saker gave to try and dissuade people from thinking it could be are essentially bogus.

  51. Hempus says:

    WHO white helmets under the lead of vaccination pope Bill Gates declares martial law on all nations.
    Innocent flu and fewer victims are hunted like in a denazification campaign and contained into medical concentration camps.
    Lampshades and shrinked heads are not found yet, but of course maybe 6 millions will die or at least be infected by a neonazi virus, especially if black angel Angelika Merkel says so.

    On the other side we have “the Idiot-in-Chief” as described by the Author of this article.
    He, Donald Trump is pretty much experienced with “witch hunt”and fake news.
    Instinctively he knows that this media triggered “deadly Covid-19” campaign is the newest plot to ruin hes reelection.
    A false flag op like 911, where the event happened in NY, but in fact all enemies of the greater Israel project got bombed (seven countries in five years strategy).

    This time the theater / ground Zero was in China to weaken the main supporter of the resistance (Iran, Syria, Iraq) “. They” risked a lot of collateral damage.

    The WMD is a dubious test witch supposed to prove the existence of a new found deadly virus spreading from Wuhan China and going around the world.

    In fact we do not know yet the correlation of this virus with any known disease.
    Fact is that lung fibrosis is not caused by a virus!
    But panic and fear after been tested positive of a deadly virus (sic) causes breathlessness and finally pneumonia.

    The only epidemic we see here is the spread of a dubious virus test!

  52. Anonymous[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @old smokey

    I agree.

  53. It shows “The Saker” is truly exhausted … having no good ideas left in his propaganda kit.

  54. Wally says:
    @Bob

    So then, there is no such thing as influenza.

    • Replies: @Bob
  55. @Mustapha Mond

    When I used the term “useless eaters” commenting on a different article, I was pretty much skewered. But I was thinking of bioethicist Ezekiel Emanuel’s article entitled “Why I Hope to Die at 75” (The Atlantic 10-2014). And also former Colorado governor Richard Lamm who said that old folks have a “duty to die.” (It is noted that Lamm remains every much alive at age 84).

    And there was a story on 60 Minutes several years back in which a gerontologist said that our society’s failure to come to grips with death causes billions to be wasted on very old and sick people who have lost all quality of life, and have no hope of recovery.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but most who have died have been the sick and elderly. If C-19 is natural and not a bioweapon, maybe it is nature’s way of telling Modernity that it has gone too far in keeping the very old alive just to die in nursing homes, and the herd must be culled.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
  56. El Dato says:
    @Lot

    > All the evidence points to Covid-19 being a Russian bioweapon attack.

    That’s one that was missing. Do we have full house now?

    > It was a Chinese bioweapon released accidentally
    > It was a US bioweapon released accidentally / on purpose (delete depending on mood)
    > It was an Israeli bioweapon released on purpose
    > It was a Russian bioweapon released on purpose

    The fact that interesting viruses come out of China at intervals apparently doesn’t influence the prior of all these weird theories.

    It’s like a neighbor who regularly dodges the flu and scoffs at anonye passing two weeks in bed, but when he really gets one, it was the milkman/the dirty kids/the elders of zion/a conspiracy by the UN to reduce population.

    Moreover, this is not even bioweapon grade. A realy bioweapon would have you stack dead people in every single street by now.

  57. @Ayatollah Smith

    All wars are economic wars.
    As for Fort Detrick, there has been next to no reporting that the CDC shut it down because of “safety violations”. It is unclear as to whether the 1000+ times over 3 years, material left the lab unauthorized, was part of the safety violations.
    On the other hand the materiel leaving the Virology Lab in Winnipeg unauthorized, that Chinese officials found and reported, is supposed to be proof positive that “China did it”.
    It was Hillary Clinton’s directive that foreign leaders DNA samples be collective. You can bet it wasn’t for a 23 & Me ancestry test.

  58. @Robert Dolan

    Couldn’t agree more. Thinking about this from a Nation-State perspective doesn’t make sense. It’s common in political parlance to say, “Russia did this” or “America did that”, as if these are monolithic entities rather than a collection of hundreds of millions of people held together by duct tape and chewing gum.

    If “America” did this, it wasn’t all of America nor all of the US government nor even all of a certain division of our biowarfare program. It could very well have been one single scientist sneaking out a contagion on behalf of a powerful network whose powerbase lies anywhere or nowhere. Bribery or blackmail can work on a lot of people. The same is true of Russia or China or wherever the real source was (if it wasn’t a natural source). The US government didn’t make the Georgia Guidestones, and the vast majority of our citizens (and even a few of our political prostitute class) would be appalled at the idea of deliberate global depopulation, yet they were made. Not that that is even the motive, it could simply have been a financial or political powergrab like the Rothschilds did after Waterloo.

  59. Patricus says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Isn’t it possible the virus came from nature like so many others? The Chinese would not likely infect themselves. Russians, Americans and Israelis would be insane to start a bio war just because of potential retaliations, not to mention the difficulties in containing the disease. No one is benefitting from this so far. Maybe Dr. Evil has thought this through ten moves ahead of the rest of us. Soon he could control all the world’s toilet paper.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  60. Lot says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    China, offended at “China-bashing” engages in a retarded propaganda campaign.

    You agree?

    Maybe all the lying is why nobody likes the Chinese government.

  61. nickels says:

    The wife and I had the Fort Detrick virus in January.
    It was five days of fevered bedrest followed by a week of fighting off post recovery pneumonia, and a month of weakness.
    Survivable but brutal.

  62. I can see Richard faggin Simmons in here doing jumping jacks, with spiral eyes, intoning:
    “Repeat after me! This was NOT, I repeat NOT, a BIOWEAPON!!!”

  63. hcl says:
    @anon (from 4chan)

    The study states that ONE aspect of the virus is studied. The actual virus is an alleged cut and paste of 4 different superviruses, which is another thing altogether.

    It is the difference between studying the workings of a engine versus having an actual lamborghini fitted with fifteen modern subsystems.

  64. Same deal for Saddam Hussein who, aided by the “international community” (mostly the Empire, the USSR and France), did use chemicals against his own population and against Iran, but since he was “our son of a bitch” he was under ZERO risk of retaliation. But when the Empire turned on him, he did not dare to use his WMD against anybody.

    The “Saddam gassed his own people” was outed in the late 90s. This article isn’t that old, but it is by the person who outed it. https://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/a-war-crime-or-an-act-of-war.html
    Pelletiere also wrote about how Iraq went against the wishes of the US in ending the war with Iran.

    I believe the current situation is unlike The Saker’s WMD evaluation. Pompeo is more of a psychopath than Killary, and IMO more than capable of going off script along with the multitude of Zios within the US military. That is what gives plausible deniability to the “US Government” being involved. That is not to say that there aren’t other countries who have loose cannons like Pompeo, like the UK and its close-to-Salisbury Porton Down bio-weapon facility. On the other hand, China executes government officials for corruption, so loose canons developing a bio-weapon to wreak havoc on Chinese, is highly unlikely.
    A virologist from Taiwan noted that the US is the only known country with all 5 “branches” of the virus, and therefore, is the likely source.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196
    Taiwan is no friend of the PRC, and goes overboard to poke it in the eye whenever possible, and if there were any credence to the China did it narrative, I suspect that they would have been all over it.

  65. EA says:

    Finally came to me. The Virus is being spread by weaponized “fake” marijuana. You heard it here first.
    Stop smoking weed. Whoever has been smoking the weaponized or “fake” versions of weed will be the ones who come up with more serious viruses.

    Take heed before it is too late.

    All the original seeds of marijuana have nearly been destroyed, across the world.

    Do some research.

    Wake up!

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Pheasant
  66. @Lot

    Now they are using children as trolls?

  67. Wouldn’t it be more technically appropriate in the ABC acronym for the B to stand for Biological and not Bacteriological as the term Biological encompasses the Viruses, Bacteria, Parasites and all other biologically lethal/virulent agents?

    Otherwise, thank you for an excellently detailed analysis.

  68. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    The alternative is to believe that Germans have some great genetic difference from Italians.

    A possibility the ACE2 gene is a key:

    Italians and Persians still have the highest numbers of deaths (after Chinese), so it is very probable that the level of ACE2 is the common denominator. This makes sense due to common genetic ancestors. The “numerous cross cultural migrations over the last few thousand years” to Italy were mostly from Syria, Asia minor and other places in the Middle East (especially those in the early centuries CE). About 90 percent of Italians in the early centuries CE were of eastern descent, mostly from Syria and Asia minor. Like Italians, also many Persians have Syrian and ME genes.

    I suspect that Italians, Syrians and Persians have high density of ACE2. I would like to know the percent of the ACE2 gene in Northwest Europeans, Chinese, Persians, Syrians and Italians.

    Due to the civil war in Syria, we don’t have coronavirus data from Syria, but due to common genetic link with Italians and Iranians, it should be high (although maybe not due to low mobility of the population during the civil war).

    [MORE]

    “About ninety per cent of those people living in Italy in the 1st century had originally come from the eastern parts of the Roman Empire.
    “The ex-slaves, now freedmen, who made names for themselves were generally from Syrian or eastern extraction.
    “By the 1st century, the vast majority of free Italians were now ex-slaves or descendants of ex-slaves. Frank concludes, “By far the larger part (perhaps ninety per cent) had eastern blood in their veins” (Frank, “Race Mixture in the Roman Empire,” p.690).
    – The Race Change in Western Europe http://www.askelm.com/people/peo011.htm

    “It is probable that when these men wrote a very small percentage of the free plebians on the streets of Rome could prove unmixed Italian descent. By far the larger part ― perhaps ninety percent ― had eastern blood in their veins.”
    “Therefore,.. this at once implies that the east was the source of most of them… In his list of slaves that specify their origin as being outside Italy [during the empire], by far the larger portion came from the east, especially from Syria and the provinces of Asia Minor, with some from Egypt and Africa [which for racial classification may be taken with the east].
    – Frank, “Race Mixture in the Roman Empire,” pp.700–701

  69. Hempus says:
    @Sean

    I guess George Soros has spend the Italiens at least 1.441 test kits.
    Since years the Soros funded NGOs surround the Italien coasts with rescue boats to pickup African refugees and recycled Jihadies camouflaged as Syrian refugees.

    After destroying the Italian economy Soros can buy them up for cheap.
    A pitty that Salvini is not the PM!

    • Agree: Alfred
  70. @Lot

    I don’t begrudge China launching a retarded propaganda campaign against a retarded American propaganda campaign.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Tor597
    , @J. Gutierrez
  71. Lot says:
    @Big James

    Iran and China are both long term strategic adversaries for Russia. China is gradually pushing out Russian influence in central Asia.

    And like I said, Russia wants Iran out of Syria now that Assad is mopping up the last rebel areas.

    The Iran alliance of convenience isn’t all that convenient for Russia anymore.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  72. Tor597 says:

    Two major flaws in this article.

    1) You assume that America could not use this offensively because they could not control the blow back.

    There are lots of plausible scenarios why this would not be the case.

    America could have used it’s close ties to the pharma industry to include the Corona Virus vaccine into the flu vaccine that people already get. Not everyone gets the flu shot, so people would still die granting plausible deniability. But at the same time America would not experience near the damage as Iran or Italy.

    2) You rightly called out Chinas self interest in pointing the finger away from itself. But that will exist for all countries including America and it’s own biowarfare program.

    But Global Research is a Canadian country and the work he cites is from Taiwan who has no love for China. Also work is cited from Japan as well.

    Say what you want about motives, but you can’t just dismiss a narrative just because it benefits China.

    • Replies: @I M
  73. Tor597 says:
    @anon (from 4chan)

    This is old news and weak.

    If you want to draw correlations back to China, why don’t you look at all the links that come back to America and Darpa as well.

    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

  74. Lot says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    “ a retarded American propaganda campaign.”

    Didn’t you just say you estimate an 18% chance CV escaped from a Chinese lab? Cotton just said he thinks this could be the case too.

    As for “China Flu” and “Wuhan virus” that would be juvenile in a vacuum. Unfortunately in the USA we are subjected to constant warnings that we white Americans are oppressing Asians (even though they are richer, live longer, etc). We also have a big part of the right that’s a tool of big business and always defends China. The Chinese gov plays into both those groups.

    So tweaking both those groups a little by a too-rare patriotic nationalist Senator like Cotton is fine.

    And there isn’t any equivalency between “It might be an accidental release” and “Americans launched a biological weapon against us.”

    • Replies: @CommentingIsMyGame
  75. Delta G says:

    Well I wondered how long it would be before The Saker stated the obvious fact that no one in their right mind would use a Bioweapon because you cannot control it.

    But as the vast majority of comments prove beyond the shadow of a doubt, the internet has given an equal platform to the Imbecilic Moron.

    Common Sense, Logic and Facts don’t count for anything especially with the Imbecile.

    The only so called World Leader who is psychotic enough to use such a thing is Benny the Nut Job from Jewland. He also has benefited the most at least for the time being.

    And I think most would agree that Jewland is a very dangerous entity with regard to the rest of humanity. Being God’s Chosen People may give them a Megalomaniac perspective on the World.

    Its not easy to make a designer recombinant pathogen and Jewland probably does not have the collective IQ to do it. They might steal it from someone but no one else is working on such things.

    Saker makes excellent points. Its sad there is no one to read them.

  76. Tor597 says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    It’s not a retarded campaign for either side.

    Both sides are going to try and pin this on the other, and the stakes are incredibly high.

    What is China supposed to do exactly when they see the west make try to use the breakout as a way to try and take down China?

    You don’t see the west saying anything negative at all against Italy even though Italy did not respond to the crisis near as effectively.

    As many have pointed out the circumstances surrounding the breakout are extremely suspicious. Why not point this out?

  77. Ron Unz says:
    @Lot

    Iran and China are both long term strategic adversaries for Russia. China is gradually pushing out Russian influence in central Asia.

    Well, I’m not sure if there’s much evidence suggesting that Israel was responsible for Coronavirus as a bioweapon attack. But I do find it a little intriguing that “Lot” and “Sean,” two of the most notorious pro-Israel shills on this website, are so agitated about the issue and are trying to deflect the blame in the most absurd and ridiculous directions.

    “Lot” in particular is exceptionally ignorant, and tends to level the wildest and most absurd accusations to protect Israel, quite often in a rather self-defeating manner:

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/feeding-the-israel-lobby/?showcomments#comment-3377921

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    , @Lot
    , @Anonymous
  78. Alfred says:
    @JUSA

    The Chinese have the most disgusting eating habit

    Having meats neatly wrapped in plastic is a recent development in the West. The Chinese and everyone else has had similar markets from the dawn of history.

    Check out any African market and you will see that they are an awful lot less hygienic than the Chinese – and yet none of these devastating infections emanate from Africa.

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
  79. @Lot

    How come he gets to repeat things and we don’t?

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
  80. The use of WMD is an absolute crime against humanity however much one may convince him/herself that the receiving end deserves that kind of extremely debilitating punishment.

    It’s insanely imaginable for the psychopaths to justify the use of those weapons and live on without being haunted by the deadly effects unleashed upon fellow humans.

    With the effects of the exploded atomic weapons on humans depending on the dose-response relationship i.e the higher the radiation exposure, the more deadly the effects including excruciatingly painful or immediate death. With those at the epicenter of the atomic explosion being rapidly dried and torn apart, but those far away with less exposure experiencing less toxic effects. Despite unimaginable human and environment cost imposed by the atomic weapons, the effects can be geographically localized if the the nuclear exchange was not massive and with no resulting devastating nuclear winter.

    With little or no impact to the environment, the chemical weapons can be designed and nastily customized to specifically attack certain human biologic systems by disrupting the functions of their receptor molecules with devastating effects on the exposed people. Their lethality depends on their chemical nature, attached biosystem and degree of exposure(dose).

    Now comes the nasty business of bioweapons with potential for a limited outbreak, endemicity or even a pandemic. Unlike atomic or chemical weapons, the biological weapons are cheap to develop, transmit and know no geographical borders. The viruses, bacteria, parasites and their products(endo- & exotoxins) can be weaponized to be extremely virulent with high potential for transmission. Once unleashed and if not quickly contained, the bioweapons can wipe entire populations within months or a few years across continents.

    The qn is “WHY ARE THESE WEAPONS STILL A PART OF COUNTRIES’ ARSENAL OF THE SO-CALLED WEAPONS OF DETERRENCE?”

    Just by having these weapons it is a crime against humanity as the temptation to use them by some psychopaths with some crazy justification will always be THE DEADLY RISK we will have to live in daily lives.

  81. @WorkingClass

    And he works very hard, too. Probly overtime.

    This is why I am against hard work. That guy is exactly like my neighbor running his circular saw at 8am on a Saturday morning. One of those hard-workers who should be in bed making his wife happy or reading the paper or something.

  82. Blackjack says:
    @Ayatollah Smith

    Can you kindly provide documentation of the Chinese, Japanese, and Taiwanese virologists conclusions?

  83. I M says:
    @Tor597

    I wouldn’t place equal weight on two sides slinging blame on each other. The issue being obviously that if the Chines prevail in terms of the narrative point at the other side it would send the public into a frenzy, demanding retaliation. Whereas conversely this is just the typical shit slinging we’ve come to expect.

  84. The consciousness of being at war and being in danger makes the handing over of all power to a small caste seem the natural unavoidable condition of survival-Orwell’s 1984 page 192, this is what the zionists have done to America with their Operation Gladio coronavirus attack on America and Russia and China and Iran.

  85. @Anatoly Karlin

    Anatoly,

    An Unz commentator sent these 2 websites to me. You guys can talk about who spread this shit all you want, but I think it’s not a fucking coincidence that this happened when it did. Ron Unz mentioned something about US soldiers being at that location when it broke out. It’s been reported that the US is hiding deaths (US Soldiers) attributed to the Corona Virus months before the breakout in China.

    vie., 13 mar. 08:21 (hace 2 días)

    https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en

    &

    https://armenise.hms.harvard.edu/faculty-staff/davide-corona

    Fucking funny how the US dollar gains value when this shit is set loose…and oil drops to record lows. We know the US has depleted it’s oil reserves and has been buying more oil than everyone except China. Fracking companies are shutting down or filing bankruptcies all over the place, not because the price has dropped, it’s because the US has no oil!

    Mexico is being threatened by the US, Canada, Germany, France and the UK. They want the new President to reopen up the Energy Reforms that allowed (Exxon, Shell, Mobil, etc.) to drill in Mexico. Mexico issued contracts to those companies, but not one of them have attempted to extract any oil from those contracted concessions. They want more concessions, but the president wants to see what they do with the ones already issued to them.

    The US, Canada, Germany, France and the UK met last week to see how they could force Mexico to give up their oil.

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-energy-diplomacy-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-canada-european-nations-meet-to-discuss-concern-over-mexico-energy-policy-idUKKBN20W0GI

    They need to stay the “Fuck Away From Mexico”, the fucking greedy bastards!

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  86. I M says:
    @old smokey

    I think the simple consideration that anybody foreknowledge of impending events stood to make trillions from shorting nearly everything under the sun and even more by hoovering up the distressed assets, basically blows the “but why wud they have dun it!?” argument so far out of the water that it no longer warrents discussion. The oligarch vs nation state theory coincides perfectly with this.

  87. @Ron Unz

    “deflect the blame”?

    Would you mind defining exactly what that “blame” is in this case, specifically?

  88. Lot says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron, the Russians killed 170 people by using an opioid knockout gas incompetently.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis

    Was Israel behind that too?

    It was probably Russia deliberately or China accidentally.

    If it were the USA, why didn’t we shut down flights from China right away? Notably, Russia imposed stricter travel bans and much faster.

    China’s safety record includes eating filthy wild animals like bats, and also many incidents like this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunshan_explosion

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Xiangshui_chemical_plant_explosion

    • Replies: @Alfred
  89. Good article, again. However I’m disappointed the Saker didn’t reference the strongly suspected (with plenty of evidence from Russian media ) US bio-lab in Gruzia responsible for testing on and killing a few hundred gruzians

  90. @Alfred

    …and yet none of these devastating infections emanate from Africa.

    You forgot about Ebola, Marburg, Zika and HIV/AIDS, but maybe those too were bioweapon attacks by the evil US to stop Africa from becoming Wakanda…

  91. Truth3 says:
    @Lot

    A Lot of asshole this Lot idiot is. A Lot.

    Jew to the bone.

  92. @obwandiyag

    How come he gets to repeat things and we don’t?

    Because Ron is a gatekeeper, like Israel Shamir and Gilad Atzmon!

  93. This Mexican inventor created a ‘super molecule’ against viruses!

    The molecule, according to scientist Gabriela León, can eliminate viruses and bacteria such as Ebola and eradicate infections in wounds and hospitals.

    This is marketed in the Éviter product line, made up of antiseptic and disinfectant for the skin, among others.

    Gabriela León is an Industrial Biochemical Engineer graduated from UAM Iztapalapa, director of the Mexican company Gresmex, and discoverer of the Nbelyax molecule, whose main benefit is the ability to eliminate bacteria and viruses, from the flu to Ebola.

    The Mexican has been nominated by the Davos Forum and by the UN for a prize in pioneering technology that can change humanity by their discovery.

    After five years of research in her company’s physical-chemical laboratories, certifications with universities and the National Institute of Respiratory Diseases and patent applications in 140 countries, León managed to introduce the so-called ‘super molecule’ as the active ingredient in a wins from products called Éviter, developed by Gresmex.

    “It is a molecule with a wide spectrum. It is not so ‘super’ because it is very small, since we use nanotechnology,” she said in an interview for El Financiero during the opening of the 2018 International Franchise Fair.

    “This molecule can stop pandemics, we can kill viruses, bacteria, spores, microbacteria, and fungi, and we can help curb bacteria like Ebola, eradicate infections in both wounds and hospitals,” he said.

    The Éviter range consists of an antiseptic, a skin disinfectant, a surface disinfectant, a cold sterilant, an oral application product and a lubricating gel, whose efficacy against papilloma is proven.

    This is a partial translation of the attached Spanish Language article!

    https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/ciencia/esta-inventora-mexicana-creo-una-super-molecula-contra-los-virus

    This lady reported being threatened by people that seemed to be from the US. Why have the US MSM not reported this woman’s work and products? You people can take it for what it’s worth. I’m just sharing what I believe could be a benefit to someone. The Cuban vaccine sent to China is being reported in Spanish MSM, that it is curing the patients that were vaccinated. And yet US and Western Pharmaceutical Companies have seen their stock prices sky rocket! Only in JewMerica!

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  94. @J. Gutierrez

    We have a deal Senor Gutierrez!!! We will “stay the fuck away” from Mexico Lindo, and in return the tens of millions of beaner illegals can “stay the fuck away” from The United States.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  95. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    It’s not just “Lot” and “Sean”. I’m noticing a significant influx of brand new or rarely used accounts (re)joining the fray with their pearls of wisdom. It’s hilarious.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  96. Bob says:
    @Wally

    Analysis will tell if the coronavirus is a bio-weapon. Without doubt USA, Russia, China, etc, have all done thorough analyses of the virus. Do you trust any of them to truthfully tell us the results? Bio-weapons are manufactured by splicing different parts of different viruses together to increase their lethality, contagiousness, how long they transmit without causing visible symptoms, and so on. In the jargon, that’s called “gain of function.” The coronavirus has markers of a “gain of function”, which suggests it is a bio-weapon. If it were just a cold or influenza strain that was not exhibiting “gain of function,” this entire post and discussion would not be here.

  97. tomo says:
    @WorkingClass

    someone working for Pentagon, Banks, Monsanto or any other psychopathic corporations in modern-day MORDOR that is USA + UK and Canada

    Understanding how psychopaths’ minds work is a bit tricky because it’s very un-intuitive compared to normal people, but if you read a good book it’s actually very easy to understand and spot them.
    And when psychopaths see you figured them out they tend to run away from you (I guess towards easier targets – and anyone who doesn’t understand their acting and charm are fake – as is their victimhood they try to project – is an easy target for exploiting/destruction)

    here is a good book on how to spot them:

  98. Malthusians dont mind culling the herd in particular of old frail people. The ‘useless eaters’.

    So the virus hitting the US is a weak argument unless it would significantly hurt prominent figures in the oligarchy.

    The EU has apparently approved costly updates to the infrastructure to facilitate rapid transport of american Abrams tanks.

    And the authorities will limit the maximim size of crowds to 500.

    About the number the regular police may handle.

    So the Europes vassal leaders are ready to strike down on protests against an anticipated US invasion.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  99. Herald says:
    @John Chuckman

    There is a tendency, even by otherwise rational people, to go rather easy on the very plausible theory that the US was probably behind the COVID-19 outbreak. There is no proof they say, so don’t push things too hard in that direction. However, I will continue to hold the view that the US (possibly with help from some of its nastier best friends) is by far the most likely actor behind the Wuhan virus. Of course, definite proof may come to light that shows this was not the case, but until then…..

    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  100. anaccount says:

    Saker makes excellent points and he would be correct if he was speaking about any other country, or (rational) military power.

    But does Saker assume that ZOG cares for its (old) White citizens? Those on ZOG’s shit list just happen to be the most at risk for Covid-19. Sort of like Iran’s political and cultural elite. Oh and does anyone think the 1% lose money in an economic depression, really?

    My Russian friends must remember that ZOG is at war with its citizens too and war comes in many forms. They aren’t worried about blowback.

    I hope Russia and China understand their true enemy, for my sake and their’s.

  101. ValMonde says:

    As luck would have it, the company that just came with an experimental CV cure (Remdesivir) is Gilead Sciences – homebase of 9/11 mastermind Donald Rumsfeld and the crooks behind the Tamiflu scam. A few years ago, Gilead sold their hepatitis C drug Sovaldi for $ 1,000 per pill. Either way, someone will be making a killing.

  102. SteveK9 says:
    @WorkingClass

    It’s called Scientific research. The Wuhan lab was studying these things. They recognized this research was dangerous. I think the release was accidental, since that actually makes sense. You can read this paper:

    A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
    Vineet D Menachery1, Boyd L Yount Jr1, Kari Debbink1,2, Sudhakar Agnihothram3, Lisa E Gralinski1, Jessica A Plante1, Rachel L Graham1, Trevor Scobey1, Xing-Yi Ge4, Eric F Donaldson1, Scott H Randell5,6, Antonio Lanzavecchia7, Wayne A Marasco8,9, Zhengli-Li Shi4 & Ralph S Baric1,2

    VOLUME 21 | NUMBER 12 | DECEMBER 2015 nature medicine

    I do agree that if you are going to do this work, you MUST know what you are doing. Millions could die from this mistake.

    • Replies: @Jobjarc
  103. @JUSA

    The rest of the world should ban entry of their people until they bring their hygiene to first world standards which includes closing of all wet markets.

    Indeed.

    And make laws endorsing homosexuality and transgenderism.

    Gilead, one of the pharmaceutical corporations in the “race for the cure gold Corona” is in the midst of a billboard campaign encouraging gay (black) males and lesbian (black) females to “LOVE,” and take Gilead drugs to ward off AIDS.
    The advertising suggests that cost of the drugs should not be a problem: Gilead “donated” X00,000 doses, and US federal government underwrites doctor visits and distribution, to the tune of billions.

    Wouldn’t Gilead like to get its AIDS drugs into China!

  104. @Blackjack

    Some of the documentation, like the Taiwanese virologist, are already in the globalresearch.ca links cited in this article.

  105. @Anonymous

    I often check the comment history of commenters such as those you describe and find that they often make very few comments and then disappear only to come back with a different identity. I think everyone wanting to comment should be compelled to use a “handle” of some sort and the “Anonymous” and “Anon” options should be withdrawn.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  106. @Mustapha Mond

    “Them damn Chinese killed your grandma and grandpa!”

    But those who pay pensions, cheer and laugh all the way to the bank…

    • Agree: anaccount
  107. @John Chuckman

    It is claimed that the US did use some kind of bio-weapon in North Korea and perhaps in the adjoining area of China during the Korean War. I’ve seen references to that several times in the past.

    I’ve also read several of those articles and sources about that. The verdict is pretty much in now, and it’s basically a fact that bio-weapons were used. Even way back in the 50’s, that Needham guy headed the International Scientific Commission (ISC) and their study reported that indeed the U.S. used biowarfare.

    . . .

    I don’t know, but the US was certainly utterly ruthless in that war. Three years of carpet-bombing killed one-fifth of the country’s entire population, and that’s a number from a Pentagon source.

    Of course, that hellish experience has a lot to do with North Korea’s sacrificing a great deal to develop nuclear weapons and its not wanting to give them up.

    The Korea War occurred in the early 50’s. North Korea was not acquiring nor attempting to acquire nuclear weapons/technology nor trying to develop it themselves in the 50’s. Please get your timeline straight.

    • Replies: @tomgreg
  108. Anon[207] • Disclaimer says:

    ”A leading Israeli virologist on Sunday urged world leaders to calm their citizens about the coronavirus pandemic, saying people were being whipped into unnecessary panic. ”

    “I’ve been in this business for 30 years,” Bishara said in a Channel 12 interview. “I’ve been through MERS, SARS, Ebola, the first Gulf war and the second, and I don’t recall anything like this. There’s unnecessary, exaggerated panic. We have to calm people down. ”

    {emphasis is mine}

    From

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-virologist-urges-world-leaders-to-calm-public-slams-unnecessary-panic/

  109. Anonymous[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    I disagree. That would do nothing to deter real shills who’d simply use multiple IPs, browsers and handles.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  110. @Lot

    “Americans launched a biological weapon against us.”

    My understanding is that no one from the China side (especially that Chinese twitter account) is explicitly saying it’s a bioweapon or anything of the sort. More that the originating vector and source came from earlier infections within the U.S., i.e., the earliest case of the virus evolved within the U.S. population.

  111. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Ask yourself this: Why, of all things to prep with, have people been herded into buying TP till the shelves were bare?

    Because everyone is full of shit?

  112. @Blackjack

    ADDENDUM: Although they don’t say it was a bio-attack. Only that the source of the infection occurred within the U.S.

  113. Anonymous[603] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Grafström

    America has no need to ‘invade’ Europe. They are already there.

    • Replies: @Peter Grafström
  114. IvyMike says:

    What bio weapons lab would design such a wimpy virus? It’s only impact is going to be that it causes a recession that was already overdue.

  115. @J. Gutierrez

    We don’t need Mexican hand sanitizer. DARPA, through its Blue Angel program, has financed the construction of two vaccine factories using the new plant based production method. Each factory can produce 10,000 doses a month, and they are up and running NOW. The Texas facility is an American company, producing coronavirus vaccine for China(a Chinese developed vaccine). The North Carolina facility is a Canadian company producing a Canadian developed coronavirus vaccine that will be in FDA clinical trials shortly.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  116. I suppose after putting a lot of time and effort into inventing a new disease it’s gratifying to see so many people die from it.

  117. Is the “shut down” so “they” can install/update their 5G weaponry in every venue? Joe Imbriano of The Fullerton Informer explains to us how that is exactly what’s going on.

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  118. Jobjarc says:
    @SteveK9

    You didn’t directly mention this, but two authors of the cited paper includes both Xing-Yi Ge and Zhengli-Li Shi, each listed as research scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. *IF* (as you suggested) this was an accidental release, then all the more reason the CCP kept this under wraps, because this would be the second worse case possible for the Party (after an intentional release) because the CCP would have known very early what they were dealing with and claims of otherwise would fall on deaf ears. *IF* the CCP had known early on the dangers of this monster and purposely withheld knowledge regarding its endocytosis and exocytosis characteristics (how the virus enter the cell: its modalities and known transport mechanisms) from the rest of the world, the response from abroad is likely going to match or exceed those of the chinese people themselves.

    Months of unnessary delays in determining the gnonomics of the virus could have been curtailed, along with any other duplicate pre-recording findings perhaps located within the Wuhan Institute. Seeing how this is going to be spun is going to be very interesting indeed.

  119. We’ll never know who manufactured and used this bio-weapon. Either they were very dumb Americans who thought they’d pull one on the Chinese (via the military ppl that were recently in China before the outbreak)…

    OR…..there is a more sinister and brilliant strategy most of us are too dumb to figure out.

    Whatever it is, best make sure you are stocked up on a little food & cash….just in case.

  120. @Patricus

    Isn’t it possible the virus came from nature like so many others?

    Of course: read my linked original comment. All the heated conspiracy mongering about an intentional bioweapon release by one state or another is silly given the lack of evidence so far in this particular instance.

    There’s a been Lot of convoluted ‘Cui bono?’ Rorschach jibber jabber on this subject in multiple threads, and in featured articles, but no substance. If one wants others to believe the novel coronavirus is likely an intentional attack, one can coyly point to all sorts of circumstantial ‘evidence’ against any number of rival geopolitical parties.

  121. The Saker:
    “We can clearly see the same pattern here: the Soviets waited until it was absolutely certain that the USA had defeated the Japanese empire before striking it themselves.”

    The Soviets only kept their word: to launch an attack agains Japan exactly 3 months after the end of the war in Europe.

  122. @Anonymous

    Correct, but it would enable anyone to view every commenter’s history if they so desired.

  123. The very day the military games began in Wuhan on the 18th October 2019, in Moscow a great execice was held on how to organize the defense against a serious pandemia.

    Can you believe in such a coincidence?

    Oh, but wait! That pandemic exercice was not held in Moscow, but in NEW YORK.

    And now a question: who the USA sent to Wuhan, competitors or…?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Military_World_Games#Medal_table

    USA, 35th after Namibia and Tunisia.

  124. Whoever or whichever country tried to release this man made virus, as Dr Francis Boyle calls it, did it without realizing the consequence of their action as we have witnessed the similar situations for the past 2-3 decades. The only difference between the current crime and those in the past is that this virus doesn’t discriminate and it enters bodies of the poor as well as those of wealthy people! The industrious wealthy ones are fucking surprised and they finding their asses stuck in the gears!
    192000 mobster families around this world are controlling and pimping the rest of 7B people. They have enslaved the majority and then loaning them money at high interest rate and accumulating more wealth from the poor bastards! Very identical to the behavior of the pimps! I have no sympathy for the bastard industrious wealthy because one day the poor people will rise up against them!

  125. Two problems with the bioweapons idea.
    First, the genetic analysis can determine it’s creation date. That match what one would expect if it originated in a wet market not at some weapons lab.
    Second, no one has the technology to build anything as sophisticated as COVID-19. Mother Nature is way ahead in this regard.

    These two notions I got from listening to an interview with an expert on infectious diseases. You can hear it here:

    http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/michael-osterholm

  126. bluedog says:
    @Bombercommand

    And the idiot has spoken,now on to the rest of the comments.!!!

    • Agree: FB
  127. @bluedog

    You sound like a snarky girl. Men do not write what you wrote. Here is the challenge: blockquote ONE sentence that I wrote that is a FALSE STATEMENT. Then we will have a discussion. I will take a lack of response to mean you are out in the yard scarfing up excrement, because dogs love eating excrement.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @bluedog
  128. tomgreg says:
    @CommentingIsMyGame

    John Chuckman made a temporal jump in the second paragraph. Reads fine to me.

  129. @Bombercommand

    Mr. Bombercommand,

    You must have been the sharpest pencil in the bunch. Let me educate you a little bit Archie Bunker, “not all Beaners are Mexicans, just like Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala are not states in Mexico (FOX News). Mexico is not Latin America mister, we’re North American. We are not “Beaners” nor Indigenous or Spanish or French nor African but a “Mixture” of “All”. a unique and original universe, know throughout the World as “Mexico”. We have a Six Hundred year History in North America, 200 years before any Archie Bunker arrived on the Mayflower! We beat the fuck out of the Spanish and French, two World Powers of that time.

    We kept the British from flanking the US Patriots and help feed them with cattle from Texas! The Mexican Peso was the first coin money used by the US after their independence. A war that saw Spanish and Mexican soldiers attack British Forts in Florida, Louisiana and the Carolinas. Carolina a Spanish name, like many throughout the United States!

    We’ll hold the “Beaners” at our southern border for you guys, not because Trump tells us to, but because we don’t like stupid mother fuckers that think the US is waiting with open arms. Don’t confuse a Real Mexican with those dumb asses. By your comment they have more in common with you, than they will ever have with me!

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Alfred
  130. @Bombercommand

    DARPA, through its Blue Angel program, has financed the construction of two vaccine factories using the new plant based production method.

    That makes a lot of sense Bombercontrol! I’m sure they had the “Cure” before they spread the virus…having a US Patent and all! I hope you don’t think it was made to get rid of the beaner illegal aliens, Corona being them name and all?

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  131. @bluedog

    Hey FB, aren’t you the guy that claimed the Russian ELINT aircraft lost in Syria was shot down by a French frigate? You promised to explain, but never did, just disappeared for a few months. Now that you’re back, this “idiot” would like to hear all about it. Your move.

  132. Alfred says:
    @EA

    Stop smoking weed

    Thank you for that useful information. I had not realised that the mainland Chinese were such big users of weed. 🙂

  133. Alfred says:
    @Lot

    the Russians killed 170 people by using an opioid knockout gas incompetently

    According to the Jewpedia – a very anti-Russian outfit – 131 hostages died.

    Moscow theater hostage crisis

    700 hostages were rescued and injured. It is not clear how many were not injured. Probably 1000.

    40 terrorists were killed.

    Most importantly, there was no repeat operations. The terrorists learned that the Russian Federation will not give in to their demands.

    Personally, I think that these 131 innocent fatalities was a good price to pay for this outcome. How many civilians have the Israelis and their American stooges killed in the Middle East with impunity?

    Let’s not forget that NATO’s operation Gladio in Bologna in 1980 resulted in the death of 85 people and the injury of 200. There have been no arrests and those who ordered it remained at their posts or were promoted. It was precusor of the 9/11 false flag.

    The Massacre of Bologna… 30 Years Later

    I really do wish you would stop trolling with these red herrings that are aimed at diverting the discussion from the culpability of Israel in what is happening in the rest of the world.

  134. Quintus says:
    @Anonymous

    Great link! In the Wapo article, reference is made to “Carl Gershman, president of the National Endowment for Democracy, likened the brave reporters of Radio Free Asia to Jan Karski, the Pole who tried to alert the West to Nazi atrocities.

    ‘Nuff said; anyone with half a brain outside of the mainstream knows what Carl Gershman and his NED stand for: coups in Ukraine and all over the world at taxpayers’ expense.

    • Agree: Pheasant
  135. Quintus says:
    @old smokey

    That’s quite funny, and partly true!

  136. Quintus says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Very good point. For me, the fact that two of USA’s top foes/rivals, China and Iran, were hit the hardest by the coronavirus, despite the fact that they are not contiguous and that the countries around them and in between, at least for the time being, haven’t been hit as hard, is evidence that the diffusion of the virus(es) in the two countries is deliberate, not accidental. Not to mention the fact that they appear to belong to different strands of the virus. The report in the Iraqi and Iranian media of US consulates deliberately spreading the coronavirus there comports with these unnatural statistics:

  137. @J. Gutierrez

    J.G.,

    Love them or hate them Mexicans have a right to their own, and to be respected for their history and culture, especially by those who have done far more harm to the world than Mexicans have. Unfortunately Mexico has become a staging post for immigrants in transit to another destination, just like Turkey, Greece and other Balkan states on the other side of the world. Be careful they don’t lumber you with all these foreigners, even Africans now, who have no reason for being in Mexico whatsoever other than trying to cross into USA where the open borders advocates who invite them and fund them are based, including the major paymaster of this invasion – Mr. Soros himself. Now if those Yanks were truly honest they would arrest Soros and seize all his monies and properties under RICO for being one of the masterminds of this huge international criminal enterprise. Then with his billions they could fund the wall and whatever other measures to counter the damage he and his criminal NGOs have done so far.

    I am all for the US building an insurmountable wall on its border but don’t let them force you to pay for it. In fact they should pay for a wall at your southern border – after all it is a lot shorter. Although, to be honest, your corrupt border guards would probably let them through into Mexico. But are US border guards incorruptible? According to that movie with Jack Nicholson The Border (1982), they also collude with the human traffickers.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  138. Biff says:
    @Bombercommand

    blockquote ONE sentence that I wrote that is a FALSE STATEMENT.

    Done

    Coronavirus is NOT a bioweapon. This not-a-bioweapon was NOT used by The United States to attack China. End of discussion. Lijian Zhao, despite his excellent command of English, is, to judge by his inane “tweets”, a total moron. The chief value of this article is that The Faker has unintentionally revealed that he was never a professional ” military analyst for NATO” as he has claimed. This occurs in the paragraph that begins with “I am a total medical ignoramus”. The clincher is his second definition of ” operational art”: “the level at which combined arms (above division level) formations are brought together in something similar to an army corps.” This statement is a meaningless slurry. An army Corps is three Divisions, so of course, if “formations are brought together” “(above division level)”, you get an army Corps, and that is certainly not a definition for ” operational art”. Let’s look at The Faker’s first definition of “operational art”: ” you can think of it as what connects the tactical means to the strategic goals”. Besides being cribbed from a sub-mediocre Wikipedia article, The Faker never enlightens us as to what “it” is that “connects”, and being an ex military analyst(and a specialist in operational art) he should be able to. The Faker is obviously a bullshitter, but bullshitters need a source to riff off of. It is my opinion that he has in the past read a crappy essay on Soviet Deep Battle, didn’t understand it and has a spotty memory of it. His yakking about “combined arms formations” and “something similar to an army corps” reminds me of the organization of a Soviet Shock Corps circa WWII, where Rifle Divisions were reinforced with a Tank Brigade, Heavy Tank Regiments, Artillery Regiments, Air Divisions, and other units, and made up the First Eschelon, employing infiltration tactics to break up the opposition’s Tactical Zone into numerous small encirclements. The “operational art” stuff comes from his muddled memory of Soviet Deep Battle’s division of the battlefield into a Tactical Zone, an Operational Zone, and the Strategic Depth. It is from this that The Faker produces the meaningless phrase “what connects the tactical means to the strategic goals”. Behind the Tactical Zone is the Operational Zone, supporting the Tactical Zone and containing command centers, supply depots etc. After the First Eschelon and it’s heavy tanks have neutralized the Tactical Zone the Second Eschelon and it’s faster medium tanks pass through the numerous gaps and wreck havoc in the Operational Zone, resulting in command paralysis. The Strategic Depth is more of a concept, it was expected the opposition would retreat into the Strategic Depth and build a new Tactical Zone/Operational Zone.

    And done..

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  139. @ marky and sparky :

    First, the genetic analysis can determine it’s creation date. That match what one would expect if it originated in a wet market not at some weapons lab.

    It’s not coherent with the Chinese official recent accusations.
    Either the virus creation date precedes the Wuhan market origin, or the Chinese officials lie.
    The last don’t lie that much, just a bit maybe. They don’t say earth is flat or americans didn’t go to the moon.

    So I would tend to believe the one who lied yesterday (“the deep state” or its various other denominations) about mostly everything are the one who lie today.

    About the ideas develloped by the author of the article :
    Yes it might be a strategic non sense. But this recalls the legend of the golem, a jewish legend of the middle ages in Tchecolsovakia if I remember well. It’s a bit different to a Pandora’s box, tough sharing some similarities. The golem is some kind of a monster out of control, it’s meaner than a Pandora’s box. Even for a seasoned strategist. (This not exactly an accusation I make here, rather a cultural / literary reference). But hmm…who knows

  140. @Anonymous

    The issue was that the infrastructure cannot generally carry a 70 ton Abrams tank and that European leaders are, apparently, willing to pay the bills for that purpose.
    The establishment fears protesting masses and may accept that an unnecessary conflict eastwards gives them an excuse to let the US keep people down.
    Massimmigration has fueled the tensions so many people might not be so sure about which enemy is the worst. And too naive to understand that the whole problem is caused by the US/UK oligarchy with cooperation from the EU leaders.

  141. Alfred says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    Carolina a Spanish name, like many throughout the United States!

    I mean no disrespect. I agree with your sentiments. However, “Carolina” was an English invention.

    King Charles II of England granted the Carolina charter in 1663 for land south of Virginia Colony and north of Spanish Florida.

    This province was named after the king of England.

    Province of North Carolina

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  142. @Biff

    Your assertion is my entire comment is false, but you offer no argumentation to support your assertion. Writing “done” and “not done” is the squealing of a 4 year old child, not argumentation. Try again.

  143. @J. Gutierrez

    So…..The United States attacks China with a Coronavirus bioweapon, but at the height of the epidemic, a DoD financed facility is mass producing a Chinese developed vaccine for use in China that will neutralize that bioweapon.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  144. Avery says:

    {… so-called “weapons of mass destruction” (WMD): Atomic, Bacteriological and Chemical (ABC). All of these WMD were initially seen as very effective and very frightening,} [TheSaker]

    It is interesting that TheSaker, being a military analyst, perpetuate the myth that Bacteriological and Chemical weapons are, actually so-called, WMDs.

    Nothing comes close, by orders of magnitude, to the Mass Destructive power of nuclear weapons.That is why everybody and his brother is thinking of developing nukes.
    No number of Bio or Chem weapons in your arsenal will prevent/dissuade an enemy from attacking you.

    Even a minimum number of nukes would.

  145. Herald says:
    @Olivier1973

    Thank you. Very interesting and of course, practically all of the masses of circumstantial evidence, from various sources, points only in one direction.

    • Agree: Alfred
  146. @Commentator Mike

    My brother Mike,

    It’s always a pleasure reading your unbiased words of wisdom! As you well know I moved back to Mexico after 50 years of living in the US. My kids, brothers and sisters live there and when some ignorant commentator writes, get the “beaners” out of the US, it fucking pisses me off! I lived and loved the US, I missed the Vietnam War (Draft) by a couple years (I thank God for that).

    I agree with you on “Soros” being the promoter and deep pockets behind the immigrant caravans. I saw Africans pass through my home town, they stopped at my friends restaurant. I told her back then to be careful getting too close, Ebola! That group was later reported to have crossed into the US and interviewed in San Antonio. They were shopping for new clothes with rolls of dollar bills. They said they were recruited in Africa by US Officials to work as French Translators! Why didn’t these people just fly to the US? It was more lies that they were told to say!

    Hope all is well, Mike! I’ve got Mexico covered so does Ford Quarterman…LOL He is an American that lives in Mexico. Watch his Youtube videos they are very funny, here is one with English translation.

    J.G.

  147. @Alfred

    Alfred,

    Thank you for correcting my comment, it was done in a very respectful way, contrary to other commentators that would use it to bash one’s intelligence. I’ll begin to follow your comments and if you don’t mind contribute in a positive manner such as you have, to mine.

    With love from beautiful Mexico…J.G.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  148. Henchmn says:

    I dunno, why couldn’t this just be an accidental leak of something no one should have been working on in the first place? You can’t blame the Powers That Shouldn’t Be for capitalizing on the situation and shutting down the economy-here in Los Angeles EVERYONE I KNOW is gonna get hurt badly-and blaming the virus for a crash that was bound to happen anyway.

  149. @Bombercommand

    Bombercommand,

    So…..The United States attacks China with a Coronavirus bioweapon, but at the height of the epidemic, a DoD financed facility is mass producing a Chinese developed vaccine for use in China that will neutralize that bioweapon.

    Answer me this question and I will decide if I should continue our dialog. “Do you believe Ossama Bin Ladin attacked the United States on 9-11”?

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  150. bluedog says:
    @Bombercommand

    I’ll pass I don’t suffer idiots very well, instead I’ll read the intelligent post posted by others>>>

  151. Crazy Horse says: • Website

    Saker. I think like many honorable people in the military you assume that these people are sane and rational. They are not. America’s record of total war carried out against the indigenous population and the more recent unnecessary nuclear bombing of Japan which would have surrounded under the same terms prior to dropping the bombs proves this point.

    Not to mention the wars fought in Korea, Vietnam and now being fought in the Middle East since.

  152. @J. Gutierrez

    No I do not believe Osama did it.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  153. Al Liguori says: • Website

    One silver lining: The usual suspects are getting nervous.

    Conspiracy theory that Jews created virus spreads on social media, ADL says https://www.timesofisrael.com/conspiracy-theory-that-jews-created-virus-spreads-on-social-media-adl-says/

    Since (((they))) mentioned “tropes”…

  154. The good Russian doctor, Aleksandr Chuchalin, in the video explained that corona viruses have always been with us, but this is the worst variant so far. Russia’s known cases have all come from Russians returning from Italy. None have arrived from China. He explains how the virus arrives like the common flu, but after 9 days it spreads and infects the lungs and intestinal tract. It can be treated with difficulty. He expects treatments will improve, vaccines will be perfected, and the worst of the plague will be past after May, and the world will slowly get back to normal.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  155. @Bombercommand

    J. Gutierrez said: Answer me this question and I will decide if I should continue our dialog. “Do you believe Ossama Bin Ladin attacked the United States on 9-11”?

    Bombercommand responded: “No I do not believe Osama did it.”

    That was the right answer…you just confirmed that there is still hope for some of US male population, most kneel and bend over to their ZUSA masters. So, I will continue our dialog, and respond to your comment attached below.

    [MORE]

    So…..The United States attacks China with a Coronavirus bioweapon, but at the height of the epidemic, a DoD financed facility is mass producing a Chinese developed vaccine for use in China that will neutralize that bioweapon.

    I think providing you with a few quotes from people that have discussed viruses and population control in the past (which might be the real reason behind this outbreak) should give you a clear understanding who might be behind this outbreak. And, I don’t think China would accept a DOD vaccine or any other vaccine from anyone in the US, period! After reading the quotes below only a dumb ass would.

    “At the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but its true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that World Health Organization is a front for these depopulation interests.” – Author: Jon Rappoport

    “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care & reproductive health services, we could LOWER that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” – Author: Bill Gates

    “Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries.” – Author: Henry A. Kissinger

    “We stand today before the awful proposition: either the triumph of imperialism and the destruction of all culture, and, as in ancient Rome, depopulation, desolation, degeneration, a vast cemetery; or, the victory of socialism.” – Author: Rosa Luxemburg

    “We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now.” – Author: Sir David Attenborough

    “To our minds, the fundamental cure, reducing the scale of the human enterprise (including the size of the population) to keep its aggregate consumption within the carrying capacity of Earth is obvious but too much neglected or denied.” – Author: Paul Ehrlich, a former science adviser to George W. Bush

    “We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.” – Author: Dave Foreman, the co-founder of Earth First

    “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Author: Ted Turner CNN Founder

    “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”- Author: Jacques Costeau

    “If there were a button I could press, I would sacrifice myself without hesitating if it meant millions of people would die.”- Author: Pentti Linkola, Finnish Environmentalist

    “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”- Author: Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II

    “At the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but its true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that World Health Organization is a front for these depopulation interests.” – Author: Jon Rappoport

    “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care & reproductive health services, we could LOWER that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” – Author: Bill Gates

    “Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries.” – Author: Henry A. Kissinger

    “We stand today before the awful proposition: either the triumph of imperialism and the destruction of all culture, and, as in ancient Rome, depopulation, desolation, degeneration, a vast cemetery; or, the victory of socialism.” – Author: Rosa Luxemburg

    “We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now.” – Author: Sir David Attenborough

    “To our minds, the fundamental cure, reducing the scale of the human enterprise (including the size of the population) to keep its aggregate consumption within the carrying capacity of Earth is obvious but too much neglected or denied.” – Author: Paul Ehrlich, a former science adviser to George W. Bush

    “We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.” – Author: Dave Foreman, the co-founder of Earth First

    “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Author: Ted Turner CNN Founder

    “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”- Author: Jacques Costeau

    “If there were a button I could press, I would sacrifice myself without hesitating if it meant millions of people would die.”- Author: Pentti Linkola, Finnish Environmentalist

    “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”- Author: Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II

    Did you notice not one single, Beaner, Chink, Nigger or Ruskie on my list of quotes? All Anglo/Zionists or in other words the “White People” that murdered the other “White People” in WWI and WWII. I don’t think I need to name them.

  156. Alfred says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    El placer es mío, señor 🙂

    [MORE]

  157. Alfred says:

    A private comment by me on Facebook suggested that the virus might have originated from the USA.

    This comment was deleted. I got a message from FB stating that their “fact checking” had discovered an “error” in my comment.

    Obviously, this has merely confirmed further my suspicions.

    [MORE]

  158. There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. – Soren Kierkegaard
    Coronavirus Caused By 5G?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=zFN5LUaqxOA&feature=emb_logo

  159. JT says: • Website

    Friends who understand Russian gave the expert a try. Send chills up their spine. Not easy listening. One point of disagreement however, is in description of sepsis. He ascribes it to mycosium microbiota in lower alveoli, but most clinical studies in Wuhan reference cytokine storm syndrome.

  160. JamesD says:

    You never use a virus as a bio weapon. You can’t control it and they readily mutate. You use stuff like Anthrax, which is fragile and delivered by spores. This limits it SPREADING and contains it to the target area.

    I think the most likely source of Wuhan virus was vaccine research in Wuhan.

  161. @JamesD

    I disagree with you brother…I believe there is a vaccine developed along side the virus, just in case of loosing that control. There have been too many people that talked about population control in the past. I posted a list of quotes in a previous comment.

    Keep safe…

  162. JT says: • Website

    Further summary of Russian expert:
    he speaks of runny nose as being onset, not cough.

    puzzling.

    second, he brings up “survival” and what will subsequently happen to people with lungs which are from a medical perspective damaged. The suggestion being they are permanently damaged, imputed expected high mortality.

    once again emphasizing that treatment should not be administered at stage of Covid onset, but earlier.

  163. Alfred says:
    @James Joseph

    the worst of the plague will be past after May, and the world will slowly get back to normal.

    Inshallah

    But professor Aleksandr Chuchalin also said some weird things such as that the lungs don’t normally contain viruses and bacteria. I am no doctor but that does not make sense to me. I always assumed that we are full of these things and that there is some symbiosis in play.

    Anyway, places like Malaysia and Australia seem to be having problems with the virus – and they are a lot warmer than Iran or Italy at the moment. This suggests that we are going to be stuck with it for years before it mutates to a faster spreading version that is not so harmful. I am being sarcastic of course.

    Virus Vaccine Could Take Up to 18 Months: WEF Head of Global Health

    Malaysia Reports First Coronavirus Deaths After Cases Spiked

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  164. @Alfred

    People do get colds and influenza in the tropics all the time. Especially with all the air conditioning which requires constant cleaning and maintenance to keep down the infections. I’ve no idea where these people got the idea that higher temperatures kill the influenza and cold viruses.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4847850/

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  165. @Commentator Mike

    Mike

    Check this out! Sounds like something Trump would do. Look at the video at the end of the article, the German government is upset at the US takeover attempt of this company.

    Germany tries to stop Trump from luring away firm working on coronavirus vaccine

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/germany-tries-stop-trump-luring-away-firm-working-coronavirus-vaccine-n1159426

    Saludos Alfred

  166. @JamesD

    Judging by the hysterical media hype and inconsistent governmental reactions this is likely to turn out to be more of an economic weapon and possibly a test exercise for future, more devious bio-weapon events.

    I don’t have better information than anyone else here and no experience in the medical, bio-tech field so that is just a hunch based on past patterns of events and media.

  167. @JUSA

    Have a look in the mirror. Unless you have a body like the Statue of David or Venus de Milo (if you are female), you really don’t have a clue about nutrition. Most Westerners having not travelled around the World have no idea that 80% of the Worlds population get their food from “Wet Markets”. Yes, that’s markets where animals are hanging from hooks in open air with flies buzzing around. It has been like this since the beginning of time. The West is demonizing “wet markets” because these markets are not Corporate controlled. These markets have “nutrient dense” foods that feed the body what it needs. They are not the packaged “factory farmed” stuff you get in Western supermarkets laced with antibiotics, hormones and chemicals. Eating nutrient dense means no modern illnesses like diabetes, Heart Disease, Cancer etc… Most of this “nicely packaged” food you get in Western supermarkets is NOT nutrient dense. These wet markets are essentially “farmers markets” not owned by Corporations in the West who want to control what you eat. Big Pharma wants you to eat food from Western style supermarkets because many (especially people in mid age) will develop heath problems and require drugs….isn’t this obvious to any American. Just walk to your local Walmart and look around. There is a reason Westerners are so sick and so obese the last 40 years requiring a multitude of drugs, vaccines, etc.. just to live. Ever wonder why the sunbelt “developing” countries have such a low death rate from COVID19? The people in these countries get their food from “wet markets” and with enough natural sunlight (Vitamin D) have a strong immune defence. You are what you eat and nothing beats fresh, naturally raised animal organs and meat.

    You may have your own “opinions” but be honest and look at yourself in the mirror…what do you see?

    • Agree: utu
  168. @J. Gutierrez

    You assert China would not accept any vaccine from The United States? But you block quoted my comment where I say the DoD financed vaccine production facility in Texas is currently mass producing a coronavirus vaccine for China, and it is a correct statement. Don’t believe me? Search Department of Defense Blue Angel program. As for “who might be behind this outbreak”, it is not a deliberate bio-attack, but an accidental release from the Wuhan facility. In 2008 researchers at Wuhan took a bat corona virus that can’t jump to humans, modified it with material from a SARS virus that infects humans and produced a bat corona virus that will infect humans. They published a paper on this work that is available on the Web. The present epidemic is a bat corona virus that can infect humans and it started in Wuhan, do I have to spell out what Occam’s Razor would conclude?

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  169. @J. Gutierrez

    Correction: The Chinese scientists at the Wuhan lab started with a SARS-like bat corona virus that would not infect humans, added material from HIV to this virus’s protien coat, and produced a SARS-like bat corona virus that would infect humans.

  170. Rat says:

    Chi Com propoganda at its best.

  171. @Bombercommand

    First, I want to say thanks for the information you have been providing me. Because without open dialog and interaction we wouldn’t be able share knowledge and information.

    With that being said, I just can’t accept the theory you are pushing of an “accidental release”. My gut feeling and common sense tells me that’s not the case and I’ll tell you why. Iran, a country under US sanctions that has seen their trade with other countries halted. That means very limited interaction with people doing business. Why are they so deeply affected by this virus?

    We all know that many economists have been predicting the “Crash” of the US dollar for some time now. I find it somewhat interesting that this epidemic has had the opposite effect on the value of the dollar. The stock market crashing (highly over valued) has little effect on the rich, compared to the dollar crashing and 1 million dollars turning into 10 dollars.

    If as you say, “the DoD financed vaccine production facility in Texas is currently mass producing a coronavirus vaccine for China”. Why is Trump trying to buy a German vaccine? The link is on comment #168 to Commentator Mike. I’m not claiming to know what exactly happened when this virus was release, but past experience has taught me not to believe a single thing that comes out of the US government and Zionist controlled MSM.

    I appreciate the dialog… but as much as I try, I just can’t support your theory. We need to thank the Unz Review for allowing us the space to exchange information, whether we agree or not is not as important as having the freedom to do so!

    Thanks for your time….

    With Love From Beautiful Mexico…J.G.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  172. @J. Gutierrez

    In the case of Iran, China takes advantage of the sanctions to do surruptious with Iran, the Huawei/Skycom episode is an example. Iran is desperate and the trade is greatly to the benefit of China as they don’t have to deal with competition, scooping the oil drilling contract that had gone to France after the JCPOA, that France had to back out of after Trump nixed the JCPOA is an example. Coronavirus was brought to Iran by Chinese doing business there, same as in Germany. Regarding Trump and the German vaccine, that vaccine has likely passed clinical trials, and Trump wants a backup in case things really go south(it won’t, but the public expects the government to be prepared for the unlikely). All the production at the Texas facility is certainly going to China, so there will be none to share. The Blue Angel program has built a second facility in North Carolina, operated by a Canadian company that will be producing a Canadian developed vaccine, but clinical trials will take 12-18 months. So the German vaccine might be the only one available now. When I wrote Mexico Lindo I was not being sarcastic, I did mean Beautiful Mexico. When my family moved to Texas in 1966, my Dad took us on a (frustratingly short) road trip to Mexico. I still remember the drive from Matamoros to Monterrey, that desert country is among the most beautiful places I’ve ever seen. I remember driving slowly through the plaza of Monterrey, and seeing two senoritas walking past the car chattering away to each other and thinking “I’m in the presence of a superior culture”. I remember the ocelot I got to hang with and wanting to eat at one of those Cabrito shops that are about 3 feet wide……Buenos Noches, Senor Gutierrez.

  173. Anon[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    A study of the genome of the virus revealed animal dna from a rare South African Bat, the South African Pangolin and an unknown sea creature, possibly Abalone. Do you seriously ask us to believe that Russia came to South Africa and gathered specimen animals (not one of each but many) for research into a bioweapon. Methinks your paranoia is in full bloom this spring

  174. vot tak says:

    I strongly recomend reading this article from Kevin Barrett to get a well reasoned alternate view to what saker has written here.

    9/11 Truth, Coronavirus Truth: Zionist Hysteria, MSM Lockdown
    War on the Horizon?

    https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/9-11-truth-coronavirus-truth-zionist-hysteria-msm-lockdown-war-on-the-horizon/

  175. @Lot

    Succinctly, your reasong is a whole Lot of crock.

  176. Pheasant says:
    @Sean

    ‘Italy is a very nepotistic country with even professionals such as lawyers (Amanda Knox) and doctors occupying positions without really knowing what they’re doing. I think the deaths there are due to incompetence that you could not find in Germany’

    Lombardy literally has the best healthcare infrastructure in the world. Milan is not southern Italy.

    Fail.

  177. @Robert Dolan

    Israel has a higher COVID-19 infection rate than China. [email protected]

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