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I am continuing to try to understand what is really happening in Venezuela by talking to those who actually know that and, following my interview with Michael Hudson, it is today it is my immense privilege and honor to present you with a full interview I made with His Excellency Mr. Jorge Valero, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary. Permanent Representative of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela to the United Nations Office and other international organizations in Geneva.

I am immensely grateful to Ambassador Valero for taking the time to answer my questions in extenso just a few days away from what might well turn out to be a US false flag or even invasion of Venezuela (promised to all by Trump and Guaido for the 23rd of February). May God grant him and the Venezuelan people the wisdom, courage and strength to defeat the Empire!

The Saker

My first question is about you personally. There is a Wikipedia entry under your name ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Valero ) but since Wikipedia is, at best, a hit-and-miss kind of source, what could you tell our readers about yourself which they ought to know before we turn to the issue of the current situation in Venezuela?

I was born in Valera, State of Trujillo, Venezuela on November 8th, 1946. I graduated from the University of Los Andes (ULA, for its acronym in Spanish) as a historian. I did my graduate studies at the University College London, in Latin American Studies. I am an expert in diplomatic archives. I was an undergraduate professor and the University of Los Andes and a graduate professor at the Central University of Venezuela (UCV, for its acronym in Spanish). I was elected as a Congressman to the Legislative Assembly of the State of Trujillo, and later Congressman to the National Congress. I was Venezuela’s Ambassador to the Korean Republic. When, President Chávez, was elected in 1998; he appointed me as Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs. I presided the Presidential Commission appointed by President Chávez, which was in charge of organizing the II OPEC Summit, in Caracas on September 2000. I have been Ambassador – Permanent Representative of Venezuela to the OAS; the UN – New York and currently to the UNOG. I have written a literary work in various genres. More than 20 essays; poetry; diplomacy and social-political analysis. Dozens of national and international conferences.

One of the major efforts of Hugo Chavez was to establish a number of multi-lateral frameworks and agreements like the ALBA, CELAC, UNASUR, and projects like the SUCRE, the Petrocaribe, TeleSUR or PetroSUR. How effective have these frameworks and projects been in supporting the Venezuelan struggle against US imperialism? Do you feel that these entities are playing a helpful role or not?

Hugo Chávez was a paradigm of Latin American and Caribbean integration. In this regard, he was a key factor in the creation of ALBA, UNASUR, CELAC, PETROCARIBE, and TELESUR. Chávez reclaimed the integrationist ideology of our Liberator Simón Bolívar, who prosed the creation of “La Patria Grande, Nuestroamericana” (Great Our American Homeland), to defend the interests of our peoples and face any foreign threat raising the flags of unity, peace, sovereignty and self-determination of the peoples. PETROCARIBE is a solidary initiative in favor of developing countries, notably, the countries of our Caribbean surroundings that benefit from an oil bill with discounts and with long payment terms. Chávez has also been a paradigm in the promotion of a multi-polar world, where foreign affairs are founded by sovereign equality of States, overcoming the decaying North American Empire unilateralism. Thus, the Empire’s fury has been unleashed against the Bolivarian Revolution: coups d’état, oil sabotage, the promotion of violence and terrorism against the Venezuelan people. Henceforth, the continuous coup d’état promoted by the supremacist-racist-xenophobic and war-mongering government of Donald Trump that aims to impose a governing puppet and the threats of a military invasion in our homeland, which are part of the above-described context.

Hugo Chávez advocated for a new type and renewed multilateralism. Respect for the founding principles of international law and the Charter of the United Nations. Multilateralism is disrupted by Trump’s government, which has disregarded universal agreements on climate change; withdrawn from both UNESCO and the Human Rights Council; disregarded the agreement on the peaceful use of atomic energy with Iran, signed by USA, Germany, France, United Kingdom, China and the European Union; retraced the path to normalizing the bilateral relations with Cuba; unleashes a commercial war against China, and threatens the Russian Federation with an atomic war in his dispute to control outer space. Vis-à-vis those reckless and aggressive policies that threaten human existence it is necessary to raise the flags of multilateralism even higher.

The Empire has created the so-called “Lima Group” which is just a typical trick to bypass the UN or legitimate regional organizations. This is exactly what the USA did with the so-called “friends of Syria,” and the goal is the same: to overthrow a democratically elected legitimate government and replace it with a vassal puppet regime. Yet countries like Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, Paraguay, and Peru all agreed to participate in this anti-Venezuelan farce. How do you explain such a betrayal by so many of these Latin American countries? Does their agreement to betray Venezuela and serve the Empire’s interest not show that these states have no real sovereignty or foreign policy and that they are all de-facto US colonies?

ORDER IT NOW

Certainly, the self-proclaimed “Lima Group” is a cartel made up of satellite governments of the imperial government to break Latin American and Caribbean unity, and, due to the failure of using the Ministry of the Colonies, which is the OAS to isolate Venezuela in this organization. The empire and its minions couldn’t approve Article 20 of Inter-American Democratic Charter of the Permanent Council of the OAS and resort to the United Nations Security Council, where they also failed. The creation of puppet governments by the US is not new. It has happened in Iraq, Iran, Libya, and Syria. The puppets imposed in those countries where supported by armed terrorist groups, including, mercenary armies trained and financed from abroad.

Nevertheless, in Venezuela, the puppet has no support from the people nor the military, since in our country there is a consistent and patriotic civilian-military alliance, which guarantees and will guarantee -come what may- the defense of the sovereign and sacred jurisdiction of Simon Bolivar’s homeland. The US satellite governments against Venezuela are a minority even in Latin America and the Caribbean. Of the 193 countries that make up the United Nations only 34 support the puppet, which translates into 17.6%. For example, a single country in Africa and there are 54. One in Oceania and there are 15. One in the Middle East and there are 16. 15 countries in Europe, and there are 50. And 16 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean and there are 35. You are right, the satellite countries that follow the Empire’s orders have no autonomous and sovereign foreign policy. Some of these governments, particularly, in Latin America are presided by people that have a criminal background: drug trafficking, corruption, genocide, paramilitarism, sexual offenses. Some are the result of a coup d’état.

Another interesting initiative was the creation of Petro-cryptocurrency. Now with the inflation making the Bolivar almost useless, how effective do you believe this alternative currency is to 1) bypass US sanctions, and sabotage and 2) serve as an alternative currency to help the Venezuelan economy recover from its current plight?

The Petro-cryptocurrency was created to free us from the tyranny of the US dollar in the international financial market. Therefore, Trump’s government has established Draconian measures to block the flow of this cryptocurrency. Incidentally, the economic war and the unilateral coercive measures bring about galloping inflation, migration and relocation of people abroad. We are blocked from accessing the capital markets. They rob the Venezuelan State’s property in the US. They kidnap the Venezuelan State’s bank accounts in that country. The unilateral coercive measures and the sanctions cause, as expressed by the former UN Independent Expert, Alfred de Zayas, death and suffering. Measures against international law and the Charter of the United Nations and deny the Venezuelan people their human rights. The United Nations Special Rapporteur on unilateral coercive measures, Idriss Jazairy acknowledged this.

Russia and China have been working on an alternative to the SWIFT. Is that something the Venezuelan government is also looking into?

Experts from China and Russia provide expert advice to the Venezuelan State to successfully overcome the financial blockage and criminal sanctions of Trump’s government.

What can you tell us about the current state of the Venezuelan petrochemicals industry? Now that the US has stolen 7 BILLION dollars belonging to PDVSA, how can the PDVSA continue to operate after being robbed from such a huge sum of money? At what levels is Venezuela currently producing and refining oil?

The damage caused to the Venezuelan economy surpasses 35 billion dollars in the blockade of assets and accounts. They try to rob the Venezuelan peoples from the company CITGO that operates in Dallas, Texas that distributes gasoline and fuels to thousands of gas stations in the US East Coast. The Bolivarian government will undertake all the necessary legal actions to avoid that the Trump government steals the national patrimony. PDVSA, our national oil company, is completely deployed to guarantee the production, distribution, and commercialization of our crude oil. We have found new partners in the hydrocarbon’s market in the world, mainly, China, Russia, India, and Turkey.

Since the US-backed coup attempt by Guaido, there has been remarkably little actual violence in the streets of Venezuela, and all the signs point to the fact that Guaido does not have the support of a majority of the people. Yet he sure does have enough support within some sectors of the Venezuelan society (the kind of folks who go and protest against Nicolas Maduro while carrying US flags). How did the government succeed in preventing that minority from doing in Venezuela what was done in Libya and Syria: instigate enough violence to justify a “humanitarian” foreign intervention? In Kiev, there were snipers shooting at both the security forces and the protestors (which also happened in Caracas in 2002 I believe), and I was expecting that to happen in Caracas, but it did not (at least so far). How do you explain this?

Since the National Constituent Assembly was elected peace reigns in the republic.

The puppet that the US aims to impose has neither the people nor the military’s support to disrupt public peace. In general, in Venezuela, there is peace and tranquility. The Venezuelan people love peace. Peace is an essential part of State policies. Nevertheless, terrorist and violent groups financed from abroad, especially, the USA and Colombia act in popular districts in some cities in the country. The puppet and the puppeteer, Trump’s government try to disrupt public peace. They call to destroy the democratic rule of law and justice in Venezuela. They refuse to dialogue and promote intolerance and violence. The puppet asks the puppeteer to send US troops to invade our homeland. Infertile calls since our people remain presto to defend our participatory and protagonist democracy, as well as, the democratic institutions.

Trump’s government tries to reproduce the format that the Empire used in Syria and Libya: a parallel transition government. Prepares mercenaries in neighboring countries to foray in the national territory. They aimed to use the OAS and the Human Rights Council. Remember that Libya was expelled from the Human Rights Council through a Resolution, which was later confirmed by the UN General Assembly immediately after a Resolution was approved in the Security Council, which approved the creation of a no-fly zone. What followed is well known: cask missiles against Libya that caused thousands of deaths and destruction in civilian and military infrastructure. Trump’s government wants to implement the same strategy against Venezuela. He has called upon the Security Council to validate his objective for a military invasion in Venezuela. Fortunately, for both world and regional peace, the governments of Russia and China declared that they would use their right to veto in the UN Security Council to block such criminal objective.

Peace in our region is crucial. CELAC proclaimed Latin America and the Caribbean as a zone of peace. A military invasion from Trump’s government in Venezuela will have continental and worldwide consequences. President Nicolás Maduro affirmed that a Yankee invasion would create a new Vietnam.

Does Venezuela feel sufficiently supported at the UN in general and at the UNSC specifically by Russia and China or do you feel that Venezuela needs more help from these countries?

Russia and China are Venezuela’s strategic allies. With these two military, commercial, and technologic powers we have cooperation agreements in many fields. Likewise, Venezuela has abundant solidary backing and support from most of the countries in the world.

On January 26, 2019, Trump’s government indented to condemn Venezuela in the Security Council. They ran off with their tails between their legs, since no resolution was approved against our country. Most of the permanent and non-permanent members of this Council rejected the interventionist objective, and, contrarily approved to promote dialogue among Venezuelans. We are in a condition to overcome motu proprio our challenges. The dialogue between the government and the opposition, without preconditions, is the path to follow. Henceforth, our government has enthusiastically supported the “Montevideo Mechanism” proposed by the governments of Mexico, Uruguay, Bolivia and the member countries of CARICOM.

It is pretty obvious that Mr. Guaido has committed a number of violations of the Venezuelan law ranging from calling for an illegal demonstration to being involved in an anti-constitutional coup attempt. In a normal situation, that man ought to be legally charged and prosecuted for his crimes (including, in my opinion, subversion and treason). Yet the USA threatened to go to war against Venezuela (aka “serious consequences“) if Guaido is arrested which, by itself, is a gross violation of international law and of the UN Charter. What can, in your opinion, the Venezuelan government do to do what any other government would do and restore law in order without risking providing a pretext for a US invasion?

The puppet has continuously violated the Bolivarian Constitution. Likewise, he disregarded the fundamental tenets of international law and the Charter of the United Nations. The Venezuelan State is made up of five powers. If something has characterized, the Bolivarian government is being a devoted defender of the independence of each of those powers. It will be the National Constituent Assembly and the Public Ministry who will make the necessary decisions. And you are right: these are crimes of subversion and treason. Breaking democratic legality and wrongfully usurping functions should not be tolerated.

The puppet’s permanent calls for violence and destabilization, his self-proclamation in a street in Caracas, and his call for a foreign military intervention place him against all nation and international law. Makes him a criminal that should be punished with the force of the Venezuelan laws.

Speaking of a possible US invasion – do you believe that these are just the usual empty threat of Donald Trump or do you think that there is actually a real risk of overt US military aggression against your country? How about the covert aggression already taking place? What can you tell us about US/Colombian (some say Israeli?) covert operations against Venezuela?

Donald Trump’s threats are not empty. The aggression is in full swing. Trump is the bombastic spokesman of war and foreign intervention. His threats are part of the Empire’s recolonizing goals. The government of Uncle Sam’s nation and its allies and lackeys impose neoliberal policies on the peoples of the world. Trump dusted off the Monroe Doctrine and the Roosevelt Corollary. Recruits and trains mercenaries in its military bases in Colombia. Prepares his arsenal to wage war against Venezuela. This is why we should turn a blind eye to provocations. The governments of the US and Colombia are experts creating false positives.

We insist: the threat of a military foray by the empire is a possibility that should not be ruled out. Both our people and our National Bolivarian Armed Forces (FANB, for its acronym in Spanish) are prepared to react with heroism and determination in case of such an event. Patriotism has rekindled as never before in history. We are ready to guarantee our definite independence.

Venezuela became the subject of discussion in the whole world. Our natural wealth, our geographic location in the American hemisphere, our political tenet of building a model of society where social justice prevails, our relations of solidarity and cooperation with the other countries of the world, our firm decision of being a free and sovereign country, emancipated from all sorts of domination make us –as people say- the crown jewel.

It is pretty clear that the Israelis have never forgiven Hugo Chavez for speaking up for Palestinian rights and for openly denouncing Israeli policies. As far as you know, are the Israelis currently involved in anti-Venezuelan activities including economic sabotage, political subversion, covert operations, etc.? How relevant is Israel in what is going on today?

The Israeli government has nothing to forgive us for. Our condition of sovereign country grants us the right to decide how we relate to other countries in the world. Defending the Palestinian cause is in the center of our foreign policy. We denounce in multilateral for Israel’s genocide against the Palestinian people. Demanded the cessation of the cessation of the occupation of the Gaza Strip, to end the extermination policy of Israel against Palestine and the Occupied Arab Territories. We recognize Palestine as a free and sovereign country with which we hold strong bonds of cooperation. There lies Israel’s hatred against the Bolivarian Revolution. It is no news that this government is involved in the interventionist plans against our country. The Israeli government bets on the overthrowing of President Nicolás Maduro, by Donald Trump’s government. It has recognized his puppet.

ORDER IT NOW

Finally, what is your guess as to what will happen in the short-term to mid-term future? Do you believe that the Guiado coup has already failed or do you believe that this was only a temporary setback for the Empire and that now we will see more and further attempts at crushing the Bolivarian revolution in Venezuela and the rest of Latin America?

The civilian-military union is categorically defeating the coup d’état. Nevertheless, the empire will not stop in its destabilizing and coup-mongering pretentions against the Bolivarian Revolution. As it has been demonstrated our people are inspired by the legacy of our liberators and the supreme commander Hugo Chávez Frías. And at the avant-garde of the fight for our sovereignty and self-determination is President Nicolás Maduro. Chavismo is the new face of being Venezuelan.

The Venezuelan people will resist with heroism and patriotic spirit the constant siege of Trump’s government. The Bolivarian Revolution conceived a new nation project, which aims to obtain happiness, equality, equity, freedom, and brotherhood of all Venezuelans. These are inherent principles of our democracy and the Venezuelan way of socialism.

The Venezuelan people have resisted with dignity and stoicism the terrible conditions it has been subjected to due to the imperial pretensions of impeding the advance of our revolutionary process. No foreign power and its domestic pawns will be able to stop the triumphal march of the Bolivarian Revolution.

Your Excellency, thank you for granting me this interview!

 
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  1. lindagist says: • Website

    I strongly believe that the president of Venezuela should simply hand over power to the opposition.

  2. peterAUS says:

    I am sure that minority here, old enough to remember good old days of Cold War and Communist regimes in power , will, with ease, recognize the style and lingo of this piece of prop…I mean, information.
    It’s crude, and heavy editing is simply grating.
    As:

    Henceforth, the continuous coup d’état promoted by the supremacist-racist-xenophobic and war-mongering government of Donald Trump that aims to impose a governing puppet and the threats of a military invasion in our homeland, which are part of the above-described context.

    “Henceforth”, “supremacist-racist-xenophobic and war-mongering government”, and the best, “above-described context”……….”Above”, in face to face conversation? Oh man.

    Feels as Saker’s inside joke.

  3. @lindagist

    Was the Venezuela Presidential election of last year any more improper than the dozen or so US House races that miraculously flipped to the Dems after days of recounts and “found” votes?

    Why not ask Madame Pelosi to hand power to Mr. McCarthy?

  4. bluedog says:
    @peterAUS

    I grew up during the cold war and all its propaganda, so that the MIC could suck us dry as they needed lol ever more money to prevent others from taking over the world, and the sorry joke was that we took over the world,the poodles that didn’t fall in line found that we had other ways to deal with them, and I’m sure that South America hasen’t forgot the death squads that we funded and trained that would be turned on them if they installed a government we didn’t like.!!

    • Replies: @Giuseppe
    , @annamaria
  5. A soldier is sent to die for his country.

    A diplomat is sent to lie for his country.

  6. Tusk says:
    @peterAUS

    I’m surprised Saker didn’t freudian slip ‘Ukronazi’ in

    • Replies: @Wally
  7. Pequod boldly casts her net across the sea.
    Claims for herself every great fish bearing oil.
    Queequeg hears a terrible scratching on the lee.
    Wooden hearse is the price of her labor’s coil.

  8. @peterAUS

    If the hat fits.. Heavy sentence sure but not a word of it untrue.

  9. @anony-mouse

    Not all diplomats need to lie.

  10. Bolivia claims portions of her neighbor’s coasts on the Pacific, and hence maintains a vestigial naval command.

    I understand that it’s a true story, not a joke, that a Venezuelan diplomat once teased his Bolivian counterpart at a function, “Tell me, why does your country keep a Department of the Navy?”

    The Bolivian replied, “For the same reason your country has a Ministry of Justice.”

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  11. joe webb says:

    so, the old commies line up with Maduro and his Cuban Praetorian Guard.

    The best US policy toward to Cuba turned out to be Hands Off Cuba! to let it twist in the wind.

    The only thing that kept and keeps Cuba afloat is Tourism and prostitutiion.

    So, ditto Venezuela. When the indigenistas start killing Whites, then the Marines can be sent in…

    JW

    • Troll: L.K
  12. sarz says:

    The gold backed crypto currencies of Iran and Venezuela seem to be non-starters. One would expect that any agency that allowed free trade in these cryptocurrencies would be sanctioned. So how would, say, people in Europe go about buying or selling these cryptocurrencies?

    Bitcoin is probably an NSA creation with no anonymity and subject to manipulation. So that is not a safe solution, though a highly publicised recent trade worth USD7000 between Argentina and Uruguay was designed to encourage Bitcoin settlement.

    I wonder why Russia and China are not using some of their large gold reserves to promote gold trade notes as an alternative to dollar settlement. Only the People’s Bank of China has the heft to resist US sanctions. A blockchain based tradeable receipt to a numbered standard piece of gold in a set of depositories in major cities of the world would provide the basis for a much more efficient trade settlement system than the dollar based one, and free of sanctions. The depositories could be run by the Shanghai gold exchange, with substantial deposits of part of their gold reserves by China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, India and other participating countries.

    Countries such as India would be well advised to take back their gold reserves parked with the Bank of England for ease of settlement. The Bank of England is already defaulting on deposited gold, notably with Venezuela.

    I wonder what is keeping China from taking the lead with an alternative to dollar based trade when China’s strategic partners Iran and Venezuela are struggling with sanctions.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @m___
  13. I am not in favor of invading Venezuela as they pose no threat to the US, at the moment.

    But, I am not inclined to be persuaded by the communist manifesto’s advocacy here communism and Pres. Chavez are saviors of the region.

  14. Lot says:

    Will Saker visit Señor Valero in Gitmo? Another possibility is ADX Florence for his narcotrafficking.

    We’ll find out in a couple months!

  15. @anony-mouse

    “…A soldier is sent to die for his country…”

    Or for International Banks, Big Corporations or Zionists.

    “…A diplomat is sent to lie for his country…”

    See above.

  16. @sarz

    You don’t need gold to back a government issued currency. Just pay WORK with debt free currency. That worked wonder well in Nazi Germany, reason why International Jewry wanted to destroy Germany. Economy is WORK. Money is a means of exchange of WORK. It needs only to be backed by WORK.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  17. @lindagist

    “…I strongly believe that the president of Venezuela should simply hand over power to the opposition…”

    That is no “opposition”, that is PUPPETITION.

    • Agree: annamaria
  18. @EliteCommInc.

    Learn the difference between communism and socialism.

  19. onebornfree says: • Website

    Article summary: an interview with a criminal defending some other criminals , opposing some other criminals.

    “Your excellency” indeed. What a frickin’ joke.

    Just another criminal in a suit and tie, their “go to” costume to supposedly make them look trustworthy – give me a break!

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.”

    No regards, onebornfree.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  20. Since this author has a long-established reputation as a mouthpiece for Vladimir Putin, I would take this article as a further sign that Putin is slowly but surely bogging himself down in Venezuela. That, in itself, is, of course, good news. The more fights the little policeman bogs himself down in, the sooner he will bring down the whole house of cards on his own head.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  21. Biff says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “Learn the difference between communism and socialism.”

    Irrelevant since neither have anything to do with the topic at hand.

  22. Sorry, Saker, you are a good guy but are WAY off the mark on this. The Maduro regime, like the Chavez regime before it, is nothing but a collection of criminal thugs and Communists. I know Venezuela, lived there for two years. Full disclosure: I don’t like the place and, in general, I do not like Venezuelans of any political leaning. My experience is that the Venezuelans are the least pleasant of all Latin Americans. Greedy, lazy, stupid, childish, uncultured, arrogant, dishonest, bitterly xenophobic. To be sure, there are many fine Venezuelans but the decent folks are greatly outnumbered by the human garbage, such as this so-called “ambassador” Valero. Just look at his face: A P-I-G pig. The only saving grace of the place is the beauty of many of the women, though even they are materialistic, nasty bitches. I would not touch one with a barge pole. They will marry a man then strip him like a banana. Saw it happen many times and, thank God, I escaped their clutches.
    While I support the Venezuelan opposition to a certain extent, I am not in favor of any direct action against the regime. I would support a total (and voluntary) economic embargo of the place and let the monkeys in charge fall of their own weight. Another thing. I have read hysterical nonsense about Colombia invading Venezuela. The Colombians have no intention of doing any such thing and anybody who claims they are is a nut, pure and simple. They have enough problems dealing with their own armed Communist terrorists and trying to feed and house 2 million Venezuelans who have flooded across the border (most of them former Chavez/Maduro supporters, by the way). By the way, you sure don’t hear much Colombian criticism about Trump’s immigration policies these days.
    Trump’s real target in this anti-Venezuelan campaign is, of course, Cuba. If the Maduro regime falls the criminals in Havana have six months at the outside. Trump knows this. The removal of this ulcer in the Western Hemisphere would alone justify Trump’s election.
    Just in case it has escaped you, Cuba controls Venezuelas and Maduro, with 500 special forces troops surrounding the blustering ex-bus driver in the Miraflores Palace.
    Yes, Venezuela is an unholy mess but it is just what the Venezuelans deserve. Frankly, I enjoy watching these wretches twist in the wind.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @L.K
  23. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Correction:

    ” . . . communism, marxism nor socialism (in all of its guises), and Pres. Chavez are not saviors of the region.

  24. Miggle says:
    @peterAUS

    Nasty insinuations, peterAUS. To a geezer like me it is a wonderful article, inspiring hope that the vision of a socially just Venezuela will become normal and stable, that the dollar will quickly be abandoned internationally, and the bankrupt rogue state to the north will cease to exist, making the world a better place.

    • Agree: Cyrano, yurivku
    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  25. Giuseppe says:
    @bluedog

    The MIC is still sucking us dry.

  26. Why don’t we leave them boy’s alone and let them sing their song?

  27. Reading the comment’s here for the most part has been mind boggling. The level of idiocy exhibited here is beyond belief. I would advise all here who are ready to send other peoples sons and daughters into another meat grinder while driving this already bankrupt nation deeper into debt take a few minutes and watch the following video. For the life of me, I can’t remember who died and left America in charge of the world.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Parbes
  28. Baxter says:

    Ok, I tried to read this article, after the statement the United States is racist, xenophobic, etc, it became obvious this guy is a manipulative little Latin twat, pushing the right buttons because he knows it may have a chance to work on stupid gringos.
    Hey, look at photos of most of latin America’s ruling class. They are flipping Spanish! “Oh we hate racism in America” blah blah blah.

  29. @lindagist

    Isn’t that what Trump should do?

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  30. @peterAUS

    Forgotten what truth sounds like, have you? You never knew and you cannot know.

  31. @Biff

    How about the differences between good and evil?

  32. The Zionist controlled U.S. government will never let a chance to do regime change go to waste aka opening a slaughter house in Venezuela as was done in Iraq/Libya/Afghanistan/Syria/Yemen/Ukraine and God only knows where else that the zionist hounds of hell have done their regime change, for they are the chosen butchers , just ask the Palestinians .

    Hell they even had a slaughter house opened on 911 at the WTC , makes no difference to these satanic zionists who rule the U.S.!

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  33. onebornfree says: • Website
    @joe webb

    joe webb says: “When the indigenistas start killing Whites, then the Marines can be sent in…”

    Yeah right, Joe . Send in the US “Praetorian Guard”. Ho, ho, ho, that’ll work!

    No regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @joe webb
  34. onebornfree says: • Website
    @ploni almoni

    “Isn’t that what Trump should do?”

    Too late, mon ami, he already did that 🙂

    Regards, onebornfree

  35. onebornfree says: • Website
    @lindagist

    Kind of hard to do when they’re all on the same side, ultimately 🙂

    Regards, onebornfree

  36. @lindagist

    Are you trying to be cute, “linda“gist?

    If so, satire tends to come across poorly on comment threads.

    If not, then you should just hand over your keyboard to someone with a bit more sense.

    If any other options, please elaborate.

  37. @peterAUS

    It’s crude, and heavy editing is simply grating.

    You no doubt find it frustrating to discover that it fits an age old pattern. Again.

  38. @joe webb

    The only thing that kept and keeps Cuba afloat is Tourism and prostitutiion.

    Are those somehow worse than what keeps the US afloat?

    PS: New York, Tel Aviv, and DC are plenty full of prostitutes and the biggest ones can be found holding, or wanting to hold, public office. Exhibit “A” are Humpty tRumpty, Hillaryena, and Bibi, the carpet salesman.

    Now, tell us what keeps FDR’s Red US and Israel afloat…

    • Replies: @joe webb
    , @RadicalCenter
  39. @Miggle

    The US is unlikely to go anywhere anytime soon, And the planet should be grateful for that. Sure we err, but that probably is outmatched by our common generosity and goodwill we provide around the globe in charity bot publicly and privately sponsored

  40. @Franklin Ryckaert

    It wouldn’t do any good. He doesn’t even understand that the US has long been under the domination of rabid Marxist million- and now billionaires. FDR may have been the biggest, though not the first, Red cuck thief of all, while lying tRump and his still deluded apologists and his “opposition” alike are the most blatant so far.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  41. @Biff

    It has everything to do with the topic at hand. “Bolivarian” Venezuela is socialist.
    Whether its socialism failed or not does not give the US the right to intervene (under the pretext of “supporting human rights and democracy” of course). Both Venezuela and the US are FAILED STATES, but each of a different kind.

  42. @onebornfree

    “Your excellency” indeed. What a frickin’ joke.

    Indeed. What fools, and does anything ever change?

    Ch. What fun! Why, at this moment no one would presume to meet their [“excellencies”] eyes; from such a height do they look down on the rest of mankind. Who would believe that before long one of them will be a captive, and the other have his head in a bottle of14 blood?–But who is that in the purple robe, Hermes?–the one with the diadem? His cook has just been cleaning a fish, and is now handing him a ring,–‘in yonder sea-girt isle’; ‘’tis, sure, some king.’

    Her. Ha, ha! A parody, this time.–That is Polycrates, tyrant of Samos. He is extremely well pleased with his lot: yet that slave who now stands at his side will betray him to the satrap Oroetes, and he will be crucified. It will not take long to overturn his prosperity, poor man! This, too, I had from Clotho.

    -Lucian of Samosata, CHARON, Dialogues of the Dead. ~150 AD

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/luc/wl1/wl177.htm

    Note to our blue-tied, if not purple-robed peacocks.: Enjoy it while you can.

  43. wayfarer says:

    Venezuela Might “Lose Everything” Trump Warns, as Crisis Continues.

  44. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Both Venezuela and the US are FAILED STATES, but each of a different kind.

    And magnitude.

  45. I hope “robjil” weighs in here. Robjil posted a comment with some links to what’s gone on in Honduras and although it’s despicable, none of it’s surprising and is worth a read.

    53. Robjil says:
    February 19, 2019 at 1:49 pm GMT

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-growing-anti-semitism-scam/#new_comments

    This may be of particular interest.:

    https://dagobertobellucci.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-jewish-families-that-run-honduras/

  46. onebornfree says: • Website
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteCommInc. says:“I am not in favor of invading Venezuela as they pose no threat to the US, at the moment.”

    Ho, ho, ho! Spoken like a true, US elitist slave.

    No regards, onebornfree

  47. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Franklin Ryckaert says:“You don’t need gold to back a government issued currency. Just pay WORK with debt free currency.”

    Hah! Dream on!

    Gold backed , or labor backed, if it is government controlled/issued, it makes no difference .

    Either way, if the governments in charge of it , the currency will ultimately be a criminal scam, nothing more, nothing less[ and therefor ultimately fail, over time] .

    Ringo Starr [the Beatles drummer], said it the most succinctly : “Everything government touches turns to crap”

    Regards, onebornfree

  48. joe webb says:
    @onebornfree

    Tom Lehrer, a jew, was funny. However, he always attacked Whites. Like The Boy Scouts Marching song. Be Prepared…to bonk the girl scouts.

    jews are subversive.

    jw

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  49. joe webb says:
    @jacques sheete

    well the oldest profession we will have always with. us. btw I was in Cuba in 2000…observing.

    What keeps the US afloat is a 21 trillion dollar economy. Point being that a real economy is the first thing, after food and water. That does not make one economistic, just realistic

    JW

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @bluedog
  50. padre says:
    @peterAUS

    How very different from the USA straightforward talking, isn’t it?You bad, I god, don’t you get it!

  51. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Franklin Ryckaert says:“Both Venezuela and the US are FAILED STATES, but each of a different kind.”

    This just in : all states fail, and sooner or later the failure becomes obvious [to some of us at least].

    It [failure] is an inevitable, inescapable [ and studiously ignored] law of nature that applies to all human organizations based solely on slavery, coercion and mass brainwashing .

    So, to paraphrase: “let the failures begin”!

    However, to be clear, since the one thing we learn from history is that we humans learn nothing from history, all that complete failure of any state will mean is a “brand new” state to replace/ “improve on” what just fell apart.

    The more things change, the more they say the same.

    And so it goes….. Enjoy the ride.

    Regards, onebornfree

  52. L.K says:
    @Chris Bridges

    You are a transparent, cheap propagandist.

    • Replies: @Wally
  53. @jacques sheete

    It wouldn’t do any good. He doesn’t even understand that the US has long been under the domination of rabid capitalist million- and now billionaires. FDR may have been the biggest, though not the first, capitalist cuck thief of all, while lying tRump and his still deluded apologists and his “opposition” alike are the most blatant so far. FIFY

    The mild socialist policies of FDR brought your country back from its knees and set it up to become the one world superpower. You guys seem very selective and myopic with your history references. FDR was a capitalist, and allowed capitalism to live another day with some socialist policies.

    The New Deal—which as Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a charter member of the oligarchic class, said—saved capitalism, was put in place because socialists were strong and a serious threat. The oligarchs understood that with the breakdown of capitalism—something I expect we will again witness in our lifetimes—there was a real possibility of a socialist revolution. They were terrified they would lose their wealth and power. Roosevelt, writing to a friend in 1930, said there was “no question in my mind that it is time for the country to become fairly radical for at least one generation. History shows that where this occurs occasionally, nations are saved from revolution.”

    In other words, Roosevelt went to his fellow oligarchs and said hand over some of your money or you will lose all your money in a revolution. And his fellow capitalists complied. And that is how the government created 15 million jobs, Social Security, unemployment benefits and public works projects. The capitalists did not do this because the suffering of the masses moved them. They did this because they were scared. And they were sacred of radicals and socialists.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  54. @DESERT FOX

    The capitalist controlled U.S. government will never let a chance to do regime change go to waste aka opening a slaughter house in Venezuela as was done in Iraq/Libya/Afghanistan/Syria/Yemen/Ukraine and God only knows where else that the capitalist hounds of hell have done their regime change, for they are the chosen butchers , just ask the Palestinians .

    Hell they even had a slaughter house opened on 911 at the WTC , makes no difference to these satanic capitalists who rule the U.S.!

    Read Smedley Butler fox. This was the playbook long before zionists and Israel were invented.

  55. The billionaire sock puppet brigade is out strong today I see.

    Great article Saker. We all know the truth. Same play-book used everywhere by Wall St and MIC against anyone not willing to let their country and people be plundered by the international hyenas. Then they complain about the refugees created that show up on their border. Maybe yankees should stay within their borders?

  56. Wally says:
    @Tusk

    But His Communist “Excellency” did let this ‘slip’:

    “It is pretty obvious that Mr. Guaido has committed a number of violations of the Venezuelan law ranging from calling for an illegal demonstration

    After all, acts of free speech will not be tolerated in The Peoples Republic of Venezuela.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  57. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, you’ve been around a long time and this joke shows it. Late 1930s. German Ambassador to Admiral Horthy, Regent of Hungary: Why does Hungary need a Navy. Horthy: why does Germany need a Ministry of Justice.
    I’ve probably garbled it. I’m sure you will correct me.
    As they say, the old ones are the best.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Hibernian
  58. @joe webb

    Why don’t you worry about fixing the bullshit you have at home dip-shit! I guess being the world’s top producer o porn, consumer of drugs and largest prisoners incarcerated makes you the example of a successful democratic society. The US has more Socialists programs in place than most Socialists Countries. And your government wipes the Zionist milk off their face with your constitution Trumpster! If socialism is as bad as Trump says, why does he not just them crumble under the weight of the system? Why are Sanctions and Embargos needed? The US wouldn’t last one week before collapsing if targeted with the same type of economic warfare. 21 trillion dollars in debt and you think that your system is better? And that’s without sanctions dummy!

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @m___
    , @Wally
  59. Wally says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    So tell us what you feel the difference is.
    We await your response.

    It’s rather telling that the prime ‘socialist’ document is the Communist Manifesto.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  60. Wally says:
    @L.K

    And YOU are projecting.

  61. @redmudhooch

    Understood, but the Zionist banking kabal ie the Rothschilds, Schiffs, Warburgs, Rockefellers etc. took control of the U.S. in 1913 with their privately owned FED in 1913 and with that the control of the U.S. government was signed sealed and delivered and then the foreign wars started with WWI and right down through the Mideast all for the Zionist goal of profit and a zionst NWO!

  62. @lindagist

    Well, I Joseph Garbanzo Bean declare my self king of everything. I expect Lindagist to hand herself over to my powers, any second now. Waiting.

  63. @redmudhooch

    Read Smedley Butler fox. This was the playbook long before zionists and Israel were invented.

    They were called Jews way back then and they had a lot to do with the US civil war. They were already intrenched in the British Empire’s Banking system. Watch this video brother.

  64. @Wally

    I guess they are tolerated in the Good Ole US of A! Haha FEMA camps are coming!

    • Replies: @Wally
  65. Gringo says:
    @redmudhooch

    Ah yes, redmudhooch, the authority on things Venezuelan, who told us such nonsense like the following:

    Theres no more starvation happening in Ven. than there is in capitalist America….Its sabotage by the elites that own the stores and warehouses.

    Since 2013, Venezuela’s food production and food imports have dropped drastically.An excerpt follows.

    From 2013 to 2017, Venezuelan imports of Corn fell from $791 million to $377 million.
    From 2013 to 2017, Venezuelan imports of Rice fell from $356 million to $167 million.

    From 2013 to 2017, Venezuelan production of Corn (Maize ) fell 57.3%, from 2,457,263 to 1,050,000 metric tons.
    From 2013 to 2017, Venezuelan production of Rice (Rice, paddy) fell 62.6%, from 1,084,012 to 405,000 metric tons.

    Fom 2013 to 2017, Venezuelan [imports] of poultry meat (FAO term) fell 92.4%, from $666 to $50.6 million.
    From 2013 to 2017, Venezuelan production of chicken meat fell 34.4%, from 915,385 to 600,000 metric tons

    Do the math: lower production plus lower imports result in lowered food supply. Lowered food supply mean lower caloric intake, which means weight loss.

    But redmuchooch informs us that starvation is no worse in Venezuela than in the US: the main issue is “sabotage by the elites.” Has there been a corresponding drop of over 50% in corn and rice production in the US? Don’t think so. When it comes to Venezuela, redmudhooch can’t tell the difference between an aaardvark and an arepa. 🙂

    • Replies: @Gringo
  66. m___ says:
    @sarz

    …itcoin is probably an NSA creation with no anonymity and subject to manipulation. So that is not a safe solution, though a highly publicised recent trade worth USD7000 between Arg…

    Weak notion.

    I wonder what is keeping China from taking the lead with an alternative to dollar based trade when China’s strategic partners Iran and Venezuela are struggling with sanctions.

    The outright better point to make.

    Soft answer: insecure China, they reluct from taking the lead, knowing they are not offering any new take on capitalism. It is all about the long term for China, the last man alive, after the last man standing is done. The ignorance of the Empire, is compensated by the lack of physical courage, justified that, by intellectual assurance that harder and faster is closer to the abyss. Creepy Chinese, headstrong morons on the US side.

    As to the article, format and content meet. The interviewee seen his position cannot offer a glimpse of the innards, wonder he has any himself. The solicitor, has only words to wield. It is indeed a parody of analysis, a jest on journalism.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  67. Asagirian says: • Website

    More Invade-Invite. Trump is Scump. Just another globo-homo pile of shit.

  68. @Wally

    Socialism is a more “soft” form of Marxism. For a list of differences, see :
    Communism vs. Socialism – Difference and Comparison.

  69. @redmudhooch

    Hey brother, Heavily Armed US Mercenaries caught in Haiti. These people will never stop their bullshit until it faces the same thing on their land. Americans have never experienced war at home, and “God” is going to change that! I hate how men and women talk about invading another country, as if they were talking about what they did today. It’s sick…

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read, L.K
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @jacques sheete
  70. I would encourage those interested in Venezuelan politics to read through their Constitution —

    It’s long but a very impressive document. And the argument that it has been violated by opposition leaders in my view has little room for doubt.

    • Replies: @Wally
  71. republic says:
    @anony-mouse

    Remember the words of Ambassador Adlai Stevenson to the UN:

    The life of a diplomat is made up of three ingredients: protocol, alcohol and Geritol.

  72. @Verymuchalive

    There’s a Chinese counterpart, which also may or might not be historical:

    Khrushchev bragged to Chou En-Lai that his own father was a working man, while Chou’s was bourgeois.

    Chou replied, “Yes, and both their sons betrayed their classes.”

  73. m___ says:
    @peterAUS

    “Henceforth”, “supremacist-racist-xenophobic and war-mongering government”, and the best, “above-described context”……….”Above”, in face to face conversation? Oh man.

    Some Latino-Spanish indeed. Not your average doodle.

  74. m___ says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    orry about fixing the bullshit you have at home dip-shit! I guess being the world’s top producer o porn, consumer of drugs and largest prisoners incarcerated makes you the example of a successful democratic society. The US has more Socialists programs in place than most Socialists Countries. And your government wipes the Zionist milk off their face with your constitution Trumpster! If socialism is as bad as Trump says, why does he not just them crumble under the weight of

    Clear angle, and it shows, your viewpoint is exquisite. The US, instead of giving up on it’s territory? (immigration and all), say, has given up on ninety nine percent of it’s population. The Central Bank, doing a “refresh” every single month, between “re-installs” takes care of that. Washington must run a Windows XXX system.

    It is indeed amazing, that the sensitivity of the population is so dulled that even the best of outliers has given up on them.

  75. AndrewR says:

    Saker, you are a shameless scumbag for posting this propaganda. No matter how you feel about the US, or whether the US should intervene in Venezuela, it’s beyond all dispute that Venezuela is run by evil, incompetent people. Unz has forever disgraced this site by letting you post this.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @yurivku
    , @yurivku
  76. @joe webb

    Tom Lehrer attacked everything. He was a great satirist. Jews are good for something. And what are the Boy Scouts? Something holy? They are American Komsomol or Hitler Jugend. Nothing wrong there I suppose, but the jester respects no one.

  77. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Don’t you just hate it when families share things? They are dupes of the third COMINTERN.

  78. Agent76 says:

    Feb 11, 2019 Venezuelans’ message to the US: Hands off our country

    The Grayzone reports from inside Venezuela, where millions of people waited in long lines to sign an open letter to the US public, strongly rejecting foreign intervention in their country.

    FEBRUARY 4, 2019 Venezuela Donated Free Heating Oil to 100,000 Needy US Households, 2005-2013

    For eight straight years [2005-2013], Venezuela’s state oil company has donated free heating oil to hundreds of thousands of needy Americans. Where are these beneficiaries now that Venezuela is under attack by their own government?

    https://geopolitics.co/2019/02/04/venezuela-donated-free-heating-oil-to-100000-needy-us-households-2005-2013/

    • Replies: @Gringo
    , @Wally
  79. Wally says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    Another big ole strawman.

    Indeed, OWS engaging in violence and destruction is usually frowned upon by police, if the police are doing their job.

    Do better next time.

  80. Wally says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    said:
    “If socialism is as bad as Trump says, why does he not just them crumble under the weight of the system? ”

    You just shot contradicted yourself, now insert other foot.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  81. Wally says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    That’s it? That’s your answer? A laughable distinction without a difference.

    The world as never seen a “more soft form of Marxism.”

    Obviously you are not serious.

    And what is so “soft” about the Communist Manifesto?

  82. L.K says:
    @AndrewR

    Zamerica is run by evil, incompetent people

    There, fixed it for ya, Mr. Scumbag.

  83. Wally says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    Hilarious! Brought to you by Amateur Hour Productions.

    Some guy talks over someone’s laughable video with a picture of guns thrown in for dramatic effect, showing some guys who are said to be big bad US mercenaries …. with no proof whatsoever …. who supposedly carried their passports with them while they were allegedly engaged in a classified, secret undercover operation to subvert shithole Haiti, which clearly needs no help in looking dumb, lazy & incompetent.

    Get out of here. The stupid thing debunks itself.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  84. Gringo says:
    @Agent76

    For eight straight years [2005-2013], Venezuela’s state oil company has donated free heating oil to hundreds of thousands of needy Americans. Where are these beneficiaries now that Venezuela is under attack by their own government?

    Not “has donated,” but “HAD donated.” Joe Kennedy II thought freebie/discount Venezuelan oil was great, as it enabled him and his wife to knock down $1.1 million in annual salary with Citizen’s Energy. But for some years, there has been no Venezuelan oil for Citizen Joe of Citizen’s Energy. Bye, bye, big bucks salary for Citizen Joe and his wife. Gotta dip into the trust fund now.

    Why is Citizen Joe quiet about what is happening in Venezuela these days? The Mighty Sparrow provides us with the answer: No money, no love. 🙂

    • Agree: Agent76
  85. Wally says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    IOW, the current Marxist State of Venezuela allows no “opposition”, just like all Communist states.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  86. Wally says:
    @Agent76

    You really mean the Houston, Texas based, US company, CITGO donated the oil.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  87. Gringo says:

    Mr. Ambassador:
    Hugo Chávez was a paradigm of Latin American and Caribbean integration….Hugo Chávez advocated for a new type and renewed multilateralism.

    As an example of “Latin American and Caribbean integration,” consider Chávez sending a suitcase of cash to the Kirchners back in 2007. Unfortunately for the Kirchners, an honest Argentine Customs official confiscated the suitcase with $800,000 intended for them. More fun and games followed in Miami.
    Archive for the ‘MaletagateTrial’ Category.

    Franklin Duran, the only man accused in the Miami Maletagate trial, who declared himself innocent, was sentenced to four years in jail and three years of parole, for acting as an agent of the Venezuelan Government without registering. He will also have to pay a fine of US$ 175,000.

    Duran went to Miami with four other Venezuelans to help in the cover up of the origin of the US$ 800,000 found in the suitcase of Guido Antonini as he arrived in a PDVSA flight in Buenos Aires. Of the other four men involved in the case, three declared themselves guilty and cooperated with the prosecutor, while a fifth one is still at large.

    Despite the accusations made in the Court and the testimony by the men involved and evidence in audio tapes that high level Venezuelan officials were involved in the cover-up, the Venezuelan Government has disregarded the case as a US plot. However, the money and the evidence shows the levels of corruption and lawlessness present in the Venezuelan Government.

    Just what Latin America needs, Mr. Ambassador.

    https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2008/sep/21/usa.venezuela

  88. Gringo says:

    Mr. Ambassador:
    Since the National Constituent Assembly was elected peace reigns in the republic.
    Venezuela Reported False Election Turnout, Voting Company Says.

    The Venezuelan government reported false turnout figures for its contentious election over the weekend, announcing a tally that had been altered by at least one million votes, a software company involved in setting up voting systems for the country said on Wednesday.

    “We know, without any doubt, that the turnout of the recent election for a National Constituent Assembly was manipulated,” the company, Smartmatic, said in a statement.
    The vote was part of an ambitious plan by the government to consolidate power. President Nicolás Maduro instructed Venezuelans to select from a list of trusted allies of the governing party — including his wife — who will rewrite the nation’s Constitution and rule Venezuela with virtually unlimited authority until they finish their work.

    Voters were not given the option of rejecting the plan. Venezuela’s new governing body, known as the constituent assembly, will soon take charge of the country with the power to dismiss any branch of government, including the opposition-controlled legislature.

    I’m sure those million plus non-existent voters National Constituent Assembly have been VERY peaceful. A government that has the support of the majority really needs to add a million fraudulent votes, doesn’t it, Mr. Ambassador?

    A question that Mr. Ambassador should have been asked in the interview.

    In addition, Mr.Ambassador, there are in the neighborhood of 20-30 thousand murders per year in Venezuela. How peaceful is THAT?

    Another question that Mr. Ambassador should have been asked in the interview.

  89. Agent76 says:

    Jan 29, 2019 Bolton: We’re Taking Venezuela’s Oil

    Jan 28, 2019 USA: USA: ‘5,000 troops to Colombia’ – Trump aide Bolton’s note sparks controversy

    • Replies: @Gringo
    , @Wally
  90. Gringo says:
    @Agent76

    Who wrote this?

    Venezuela has been a constant, stable, and reliable supplier of oil to the United States. Through global crises and calm, Venezuela has been, and remains, a consistent and dependable source of crude oil and petroleum products for the United States. Venezuela assigns great value to its long-standing relationship with the United States and the long history of oil trade between our two countries that has benefited both countries so much.

    We are now ready to look to the future. PDVSA’s new business plan for increased production is both ambitious and realistic. While this increase will be achieved principally from substantial investments by PDVSA, there will also be sizable investments by foreign oil companies, including U.S. companies, in Venezuela.
    We welcome the involvement of U.S. companies in the Venezuelan energy industry and believe it is beneficial to both countries.

    In fact, we anticipate greater involvement by U.S. and other foreign companies in both the Venezuelan oil and natural gas sectors in the future. From our vantage point, the energy ties between the United States and Venezuela will be strengthened each year far into the future. We are determined, and committed, to do our part to make sure that the United States will always have enough energy at affordable prices to meet its needs now and for the future.

  91. Art says:

    We recognize Palestine as a free and sovereign country with which we hold strong bonds of cooperation. There lies Israel’s hatred against the Bolivarian Revolution. It is no news that this government is involved in the interventionist plans against our country. The Israeli government bets on the overthrowing of President Nicolás Maduro, by Donald Trump’s government.

    The Jew are starving millions on a grudge. The Jew have no empathy for the poor. They are pathologically hateful.

    Know the Talmud and you know the Jew.

    Think Peace — Do NO Harm — Art

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  92. L.K says:

    Michel Chossudovsky talks to Bonnie Faulkner on Guns and Butter.

    We discuss the economic and political crisis in Venezuela, its history as an oil proxy nation since the discovery of oil in 1918, through successive dictatorships, coups d’etats, a fake nationalization of the oil industry, the Chavista movement and destabilization through financial warfare, with a special emphasis on Michel Chossudovsky’s personal experience there conducting a study on poverty in 1975 as Advisor to the Venezuelan Minister of Planning.

    The study commissioned by the Ministry of Planning (CORDIPLAN) (involving an interdiscilinary research team) headed by Michel Chossudovsky was entitled: “Venezuela: La Mapa de la Pobreza”. (Venezuela: The Poverty Map)

    The report provided detailed estimates of poverty, focussing on nutrition, education, health, housing, employment and income distribution.

    It also addressed the role of government policy. Venezuela’s oil wealth was not used to build schools and hospitals. The oil surplus was largely recycled into the hands of the oil giants and the local elites.

    Upon its release, the draft report was confiscated by the Minister of Planning. It was subsequently shelved on orders of the Cabinet (Consejo de Ministros) of President Carlos Perez.

    Michel Chossudovsky brought it out as a book in 1978, which created a bombshell. It dispelled the myth of “La Venezuela Millionaria”.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/venezuela-from-oil-proxy-to-the-bolivarian-movement-and-sabotage/5667366

  93. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Actually there are several differences and Marxism is not really in the picture. Some of those differences are:
    – socialism does not mandate the ownership of the means of production. Socialists don’t care if you own something, they care how what you own helps the rest of the population.
    – socialism, because it doesn’t own the means of production requires that you pay taxes, which do not exist in communism.
    – socialism, because it does not own the means of production, does not tell you where you are going to work.
    – socialism believes in full employment as a goal, not an absolute. That may, or may not require government to invest in businesses.

    A simple, but not entirely accurate, description is here:
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/socialism

    As you can see, Franklin, Wally is confused because he was speaking American, not English.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  94. L.K says:

    Some of the findings of Michel Chossudovsky during his team’s study of living conditions in Venezuela in 1975, a study commissioned by the Ministry of Planning of the Venezuelan government:

    “More than 70 percent of the Venezuelan population did not meet minimum calorie and protein requirements, while approximately 45 percent were suffering from extreme undernourishment.

    More than half of Venezuelan children suffered from some degree of malnutrition.

    Infant mortality was exceedingly high.

    23 percent of the Venezuelan population was illiterate. The rate of functional illiteracy was of the order of 42%.

    One child in four was totally marginalized from the educational system (not even registered in the first grade of primary school).

    More than half the children of school age never entered high school.

    A majority of the population had little or no access to health care services.

    Half the urban population had no access to an adequate system of running water within their home.

    Unemployment was rampant.

    More than 30 percent of the total workforce was unemployed or underemployed, while 67 percent of those employed in non-agricultural activities received a salary which did not enable them to meet basic human needs (food, health, housing, clothing, etc.).

    Three-quarters of the labor force were receiving revenues below the minimum subsistence wage.”

    (Michel Chossudovsky, excerpts from La Miseria en Venezuela, Vadell, Caracas, 1978, translated from Spanish)

    • Replies: @Gringo
  95. Wally says:
    @Agent76

    Except that we have not “taken” their oil.

    However, we do buy their oil.

    Next.

  96. L.K says:

    CrossTalk: Venezuela Targeted

  97. L.K says:

    Botching A Coup In Venezuela

    • Replies: @Gringo
  98. yurivku says:
    @AndrewR

    Saker, you are a shameless scumbag for posting this propaganda.

    Do you think you are any better? Who are you to lecture UNZ what to post?

    it’s beyond all dispute that Venezuela is run by evil, incompetent people.

    Who are you to teach Venezuela’s people how to live? Keep your dirty hands in your pockets, and world will be much cleaner and safer.

    “it’s beyond all dispute that” you are a “scumbag” living in “shithole country”

    • Troll: AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
  99. @Wally

    Said
    You just shot contradicted yourself, now insert other foot.

    My comment had no contradictions Wally. If you would remember what I also said,

    The US wouldn’t last one week before collapsing if targeted with the same type of economic warfare.

    That means that any country that has Sanctions and Embargos placed on it the way the US has on Venezuela would experience the same economic problems they are facing. Capitalist, Socialists, Communists it doesn’t matter. Venezuela is doing just after 2 years of embargos, the problem they have is that the US keeps stealing their stuff, Citgo Stores, Bank Accounts and Investments. The UK steals their Gold and they both keep them from using the banking system.

    I guess you are none of those that supports Guidou? There is all kinda shit coming out about that piece of shit. Listen Wally, All I want is for the US not to make another middle east out of Latin America. I live in Mexico and this shit is starting to feel too close.

    • Replies: @Wally
  100. Gringo says:
    @L.K

    his team’s study of living conditions in Venezuela in 1975: Infant mortality was exceedingly high.

    In 1975, Venezuela ranked 4th best in Infant Mortality in Latin America.
    In 1998, the year Hugo Chávez was elected, Venezuela ranked 6th best in Infant Mortality in Latin America. In 1998, Venezuelan oil was selling for ~$11/BBL.

    In 2013, the year Hugo Chávez died, Venezuela ranked 12th best in Latin America. In 2013, Venezuelan oil was selling for ~$100/BBL.

    In 2017, Venezuela ranked 18th best in Infant Mortality in Latin America. Venezuelan oil was selling for ~$40/BBL.

    In 1998, with oil selling for ~$11/bbl, Venezuela’s Infant Mortality was 20 deaths per 1,0000 births.
    In 2017, with oil selling for ~$40-$50/BBL, Venezuela’s Infant Mortality was 25.7 deaths per 1,0000 births.

    Which indicates to the objective observer that whatever problems Venezuela had before 1998, Chavismo didn’t make much headway in solving them. Note that even with the oil revenue boom, where the export price of Venezuelan oil rose from ~$11/BBL in 1998 to ~$100/BBL in 2013, Venezuela slipped in Infant Mortality ranking in Latin America, which indicates that for all the brouhaha Chavismo attached to improving health care, the rest of Latin America was quietly doing a better job of improving its healthcare.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.IMRT.IN

  101. @Wally

    I’m glad we had a chance to communicate. I have been trying to figure out what is Trump’s agenda. You seam to be dissecting everyone’s comments so maybe you can enlighten me as to why Trump wants a wall and at the same time he is allowing illegals in on DHS Busses on an every day basis. Watch the videos on this websites, and don’t tell me it’s a fake organization.

    https://www.alipac.us/f8/trump-lets-caravan-illegals-into-usa-inspiring-more-caravans-form-369614/

    I’ll tell you what I think he’s doing. He is planning on a false flag (blacks – whites) (Dems – Rep), Riots, Civil War, implement Marshall Law, FEMA Camps and Military Tribunals. The Wall must be to keep you guys in and he needs people that don’t speak English and are happy to work to replace the people in the camps.

    Wally you might need a friend that has a ranch close to the border. You know, a guy like me.

    • Replies: @Wally
  102. Gringo says:
    @L.K

    Botching A Coup In Venezuela
    Are you referring to Hugo Chávez’s failed 1992 coup? The one that gets celebrated every year? Bing Search: Chavez celebrates failed 1992 coup. 🙂

  103. AndrewR says:
    @yurivku

    A real life Russian bot lmao

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @Parbes
  104. @joe webb

    What keeps the US afloat is a 21 trillion dollar economy.

    Hmm, no wonder “we’re” sinking. But never mind, “we owe it to ourselves,” I hear. I’m waiting, but not holding my breath, to get mine returned since I’m a (forced) lender.

    Anyway, tell us what you observed in Cuba. It sounds interesting.

  105. @redmudhooch

    It wouldn’t do any good. He doesn’t even understand that the US has long been under the domination of rabid capitalist Marxist million- and now billionaires. FDR may have been the biggest, though not the first, capitalist Red cuck thief of all, while lying tRump and his still deluded apologists and his “opposition” alike are the most blatant so far. FIFY.

    The key that many people miss is that in practice, there’s nothing stopping capitalists from being Marxists, and in fact among the “kool” set, it’s still fashionable to spout and act accordingly.

    The last sentence is Orwell’s Animal Farm sums it up nicely.

    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

    ― George Orwell, Animal Farm

    Capitalism is just a tool. Marxist capitalists have proven to be a big problem for the rest of us. Capitalists can swing both ways then back again. It’s called expediency; whatever works. The capitalist-commie dichotomy is a false one.

    There is no messiah, whether commie or capitalist. Everything sucks, but c’est la vie. Enjoy what you can while you can, question everything, and laugh at the bullshit, which is most of it.

  106. @redmudhooch

    Same play-book used everywhere by Wall St and MIC against anyone not willing to let their country and people be plundered by the international hyenas.

    True.

    Those same hyenas used Marx, Trotsky and FDR as front men and agents for exactly that. Just look who helped finance the overthrow and murder of the czar, which (surprise!!!) paved the way for the Bolshie rev the same year*. And guess who financed Marx and Trotsky when they spent time in New York. Hint: They didn’t fund themselves. I’m sure it’s just pure coincidence that they went to New York which just happens to be where Wall Street is.

    Listen to one who was in the thick of things at the time.

    “The New Deal took root twenty-five years ago in American colleges and in the New York slums where, in danger of police violence, we listened to such ignorant idealists as Jack Reed. We dreamed that we were world-revolutionists. We were reactionaries, undermining the real world revolution at its source, in our own country.”

    Rose Wilder Lane Give Me Liberty 1936,1954

    Here’s another,

    I could not at that time know, as I did later, how men of wealth use the communist movement to bend workers to their will. So I quite willingly adopted the clichés about secrecy being necessary because of the brutality and savagery of the working-class enemies. I soon learned that the members exposed to the public were not the important Communists.

    -Bella Dodd, School of Darkness, Ch 6

    And another,

    It is precisely that union of revolutionary tendencies and financial power that the world is facing now. Look at Russia, and look at the people who swarmed at Versailles and made the Peace Treaty. The Peace Treaty was written by financiers; it is the bill presented, not to a beaten foe, but to the world. Very few people have ever read it; but its operation is evident everywhere. The …bankers the world over are shoveling in the gold.

    -Henry Ford, The International Jew — The World’s Foremost Problem, p 120
    https://archive.org/details/TheInternationalJewTheWorldsForemostPr

    Yes, it is the same playbook, and we should know by now who the promoters are.

    *Yeah, I know, the Bolshie apologists try to downplay or deny Wall Street’s backing.

  107. @J. Gutierrez

    Already used my Agree button on another of your comments.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  108. yurivku says:
    @AndrewR

    Yes, I’m real, I’m Russian, I’m alive and I’m here not a first day, but you are still *real scumbag*. May be payed troll, may be just stipid, that doesn’t matter.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  109. @Wally

    IOW, the current Marxist State of Venezuela allows no “opposition”, just like all Communist states.

    Listen, Wally, the capitalist fundedMarxist States of America, falsely called “United”, are attempting, (probably under the influence of Israel) regime change in Venezuela, just as it did (under the influence of Zionists and Commies) with the Russia and Germany.

    Read the 10 planks of the Commie Manifesto and tell which ones do not apply to the “homeland”.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Wally
    , @Hibernian
  110. Parbes says:
    @anony-mouse

    There is not a single lie in the Venezuelan diplomat’s words above. You can’t point to a single untruth in the whole interview, because all that he says is correct, and you know it damn well.

    U.S. regime diplomats, on the other hand, not only routinely lie on behalf of their regime; but actively try to subvert and sabotage every single country they are stationed in. They are not really diplomats, but hostile aliens, and should be treated as such everywhere, the way that they deserve.

    YOU are the real liar, you neocon rat (even your stupid screen-name is a Freudian slip!). I hope you and your rat family get exploded into a mist of tiny droplets.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @AndrewR
  111. @Curmudgeon

    I think there are some misconceptions about socialism.

    For example providing free health services, free education, free housing, full employment, even a cradle to the grave social existence is just basic normal treatment of citizens in any half decent society regardless of how one labels it, and should not be termed “socialist”.

    In fact there are some absolute monarchies and dictatorships based on capitalism, where promoting communism or socialism is illegal, yet they offer the above to varying degrees, and some even a cradle to the grave free existence, and even free or extremely cheap utilities, and some don’t even charge income tax or other forms of tax. But then they can do that because they don’t have to support an army of useless and corrupt politicians that you have to fund with all your taxes. Just think how much more money there would be to spend on ordinary people if you got rid of politicians and their associates.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Wally
  112. Parbes says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    “Reading the comment’s here for the most part has been mind boggling. The level of idiocy exhibited here is beyond belief.”

    It is not “idiocy” – it’s willful, pernicious psychopathy of the scumbag kind. Gross self-serving hypocrisy and Orwellian doublethink at its finest.

    All these Cold War-leftover rah-rah U.S. jingoist bellicose “anti-commie” POS need to DIE already. They are a waste of the world’s oxygen.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @L.K
  113. Parbes says:
    @AndrewR

    The Internet doesn’t belong to you, asshole.

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @AndrewR
  114. @Art

    …starving millions on a grudge.

    Like they did to Germany, Russia,and the Ukraine, to name just 3 victims of the international banking crowd.

    We in the USA should have known. Look what the money bags crown did to the Indians and the Southerners, for instance.

    We in the USA had better realize that the food production(via control of the oil industry) and distribution are in the hands of our enemies and if our politicians don’t bend over on command, we starve.

    • Replies: @Art
  115. @Parbes

    There is not a single lie in the Venezuelan diplomat’s words above. You can’t point to a single untruth in the whole interview, because all that he says is correct, and you know it damn well.

    And in the unlikely event they don’t happen to know it, they should read Perkin’s “Confessions of an Economic Hitman,” or Butler’s “War is a Racket.”

    I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

    During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”

    -Major General Butler USMC, War is a Racket, 1935

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    …we have invited clean young men to shoulder a discredited musket and do bandit’s work under a flag which bandits have been accustomed to fear, not to follow; we have debauched America’s honor and blackened her face before the world. . .

    -Mark Twain, “To the Person Sitting in Darkness,” (1901)
    http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/sitting.html

    Pity poor Venezuela. And for us ‘Merkins, keep paying them taxes; it’s just another day in the gangster capitalist gulag.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  116. AndrewR says:
    @Parbes

    Does it belong to Russian bots?

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @Parbes
  117. AndrewR says:
    @Parbes

    What’s the compensation package for a Russian shill? Do you get health care benefits and PTO?

    • Replies: @Parbes
  118. AndrewR says:
    @Parbes

    Unz, congrats on allowing your site to become overrun by Russian shills wishing extermination of the families of people who don’t believe a Venezuelan diplomat

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @Parbes
  119. AndrewR says:
    @yurivku

    Does Vlad encourage you to use such hateful language? It’s not nice nor do I think it’s helpful.

  120. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Dear J. S,

    You are wasting your time on this lying POS, ‘wally’.

    The guy is as intellectually fraudulent as they come, and he proves it all the time.

    He is also clearly a bigot and a US supremacist.

  121. L.K says:
    @Parbes

    “Reading the comment’s here for the most part has been mind boggling. The level of idiocy exhibited here is beyond belief.”

    It is not “idiocy” – it’s willful, pernicious psychopathy of the scumbag kind. Gross self-serving hypocrisy and Orwellian doublethink at its finest.

    Exactly!

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  122. L.K says:

    Trump Regime Launches Coup in Venezuela: Here’s What You Need to Know

    Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Liberty Report and RonPaulInstitute.org joins us today to discuss the turmoil taking place in Venezuela, where a US-backed coup is once again taking place. We discuss the roots of the current crisis, how and why Trump and the neocons are involving themselves, and what anti-war activists need to do to confront this latest round of propaganda for imperial interventionism.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  123. yurivku says:
    @AndrewR

    Please re-read your starting message before blaming me as hateful

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  124. yurivku says:
    @AndrewR

    How really stupid you are! Just like all your trumps, Bolton’s, pompeo etc!

  125. @L.K

    Can’t argue with that, but I’m not trying to convince him or anyone else of anything. Just curious as to his responses. Hopefully others can get some ideas from it.

    • Replies: @Wally
  126. @L.K

    He is also clearly a bigot and a US supremacist.

    As a Trumpeteer, he’s also an Izzy firster. Couldn’t care less about Ameirikuh as long as Netanyahoo comes first.

  127. @L.K

    Great vid, and that’s coming from a guy (me) who finds videos and such extremely annoying for several reasons. Almost never watch ’em.

    • Replies: @L.K
  128. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    ..providing free health services, free education, free housing, full employment, even a cradle to the grave social existence is just basic normal treatment of citizens in any half decent society regardless of how one labels it, and should not be termed “socialist”.

    Pretty much, with a caveat: “normal treatment” for “normal citizens”.
    The catch is, I guess, defining what that “normal citizen” means.
    Or, better, WHO defines it and how?

    Maybe, one day in distant future, somebody will correctly figure that out.
    And, much later, on top of it, implement it.

  129. Wally says:
    @L.K

    So that’s why you cannot refute what I post here. LOL

    Go ahead and try, it will be good for some laughs as I hand you your head.

    Indeed, caravans of illegals trying to get INTO the US is living proof that US is the best country there is.
    And no doubt those illegals are “US supremacists”.

    You’re in over your little head.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  130. AndrewR says:
    @yurivku

    Ok, calling Saker a scumbag wasn’t helpful, but this type of one-sided propaganda for an evil regime is disgusting. I’d be saying the same about anyone posting one-sided pro-US propaganda.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  131. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    Yep that’s it, that’s why you cannot refute my “responses” here.

    You really should quit digging.

    Your obsession with me is just plain weird. Are you gay or something?

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  132. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    said:
    “providing free health services, free education, free housing, full employment, even a cradle to the grave social existence is just basic normal treatment of citizens in any half decent society regardless of how one labels it, and should not be termed “socialist”.

    It’s not normal, it’s indecent, it’s not “socialist”, it’s Communism.

    Why should I be forced to give the results of my labor to some lazy, dumb unproductive schmuck?
    To be forced to so is the definition of slavery.

    If it was beneficial to all it would be voluntary.

  133. yurivku says:
    @AndrewR

    Evil regime is in US The whole world will be happy when it dies.

  134. denk says:
    @joe webb

    So, ditto Venezuela. When the indigenistas start killing Whites, then the Marines can be sent in…

    hey sonny,
    Sorry to break it to you, its not up to your decision.
    YOur ‘elected leaders’ call the shots.

    Here’s the catch.
    tptb is color blind.
    They dont give a fuck whether its white, black or blue for that matter, they ask only one question,

    is he a useful asset, or useless eaters. ?

    Hence they wouldnt bomb tel Aviv to avenge the death of Rachel Coolege, or turned Israel into glass for the massacre of white sailors on the USS Liberty,.
    Cuz…..Sharon was a useful asset.

    Remember the five whitey journos , all angos no less, murdered in Timor.
    all the 5lies kept mum about it, didnt even dare whispering to Jarkata …cuz the journos were useless eaters, Suharto was the useful asset.

    Ditto,
    several murikkans were murdered by Aussie trained Indon troops in W Papua.
    The local police implicated the army, Washington overruled them , arm twisted Jarkata to frame some Papuan resistance fighters instead.
    WTF is the matter you ask !
    Cuz uncle sham wanted Indon army onboard its anti China posse’ !
    Once again, tptb favored its useful asset Suharto over some murikkan useless eaters.

    In 1985, four American nuns were raped and murdered in El Salvador by US trained death squads.

    Jane Kirpatrick, a broad no less, rationalised that those nuns were prolly ‘lefties’ !
    Alexander Haig chimed in that ‘they were prolly ‘runing a road block
    Perhaps there was an exchange of fire with the troops’ !

    The ‘gun toting nuns‘, they asked for it according to Haig.

    OMFG, you cant make this shit up !
    Why, Cuz the El Salvador death squads were Wasihington’s useful assets.

    It gets better……..
    An murikkan who’s involved with anti govn activities in Chile waS murdered, courtesty of CIA who fingered him to be eliminated by the Chilean agents, cuz Washington didnt want this useless eater to endanger its assets in Chile !

    tip of an iceberg.

    Moral of the story….

    YOur ‘elected’ leaders do not give a fuck with colors, black , white, orange…when murikkans are KIA.
    they work on one and only formula,
    is he a useful asset or useless eater ?

    or as Bush would put it….
    Is he with us or against us ?

    Time to grow up babe,.

    —————–
    P.S.

    THE BALIBÓ FIVE

    Australians, reporter Greg Shackleton aged 29, Tony Stewart aged 21(Sound Recordist from New Zealand), Gary Cunningham aged 27 (cameraman for HSV-7 in Melbourne) two British nationals Brian Peters aged 24(Cameraman TCN-9 or Nine Network Sydney) and Malcolm Rennie aged 29( Reporter for TCN-9 or Nine Network Sydney).

    All anglos, you cant get any whiter than that !

    Those ‘gun toting nuns’ as per Haig…

    The victims were 49-year-old Maura Clarke, and 40-year-old Ita Ford, Maryknoll sisters from New York; Dorothy Kazel, a 40-year-old Ursuline nun from Cleveland; and Jean Donovan, a 27-year old lay missionary who was engaged to be married, also from Cleveland.

  135. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    capitalist funded Marxist States of America”?

    Where’s that in the Communist Manifesto? LOL

    Yes, we all now about evil Zionism, which is not “funding” the US, US taxpayers are forced to fund. them. Pay attention, please

    You’re really a silly little mess of contradictory claims.
    Keep working on it though.

  136. Wally says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    IOW, you admit that the video I just debunked is fake and now you try to desperately to change the subject.

    Trump is not allowing illegals use of DHS buses, Obama era leftist laws mandate that once processed the illegals must be released via use of DHS transportation to do so. Laws which Trump wants to change.
    Pay attention.

    You mean your “ranch” which has big ole fence around it?

  137. @jacques sheete

    I appreciate you reading and noticing my frustration with some of the comments posted. I’ve come to the conclusion that there a lot of brain washed, racist who chose not to see things the way a normal person does. You can’t reason with them because “reason” is beyond them. They try and discredit the people that see things clearly by twisting what you right into something they can use to try and debunk your comments. Then with a one sentence response, attacking your narrative, they high five themselves and claim you contradicted yourself, don’t know what you’re saying or are full of shit. But they offer no alternative narrative to your original comment. I thank “God” that there are people out there like you (Jacques Sheete, Redmudhooch, m__, Parbes , Yurivku, Art and a couple other like minded people. Wally needs to meet more people other than ” White”, Joe Web is just stupid and believes Q is a secret agent, he will drive himself to the FEMA camp. Thumbs Up to the guys I mentioned above and Mr. Unz, for creating a space that allow people to discuss the events that are shaping this world. How people use it depends on the users, you can choose to use it to make a positive impact and unite people or you can use it make a negative impact. It’s up to us to separate the two and discredit the “Shills”, that make it so easy for us to identify with their insane comments. That means you Wally and Joe Web and anyone else you guys have had to deal with. Lets try and stop the “Madness” the “Warmongering” the “Theft” the Murder of people of color”. IQ means nothing if you have no heart!

    • Replies: @yurivku
  138. @Wally

    Indeed, caravans of illegals trying to get INTO the US is living proof that US is the best country there is.

    A Bolshie supporting, Israel first, ‘Merka distant second, corrupt, indebted, meddling, regime changing country is the best there is?

    Wow.

  139. @Wally

    Why should I be forced to give the results of my labor to some lazy, dumb unproductive schmuck?

    So, you admit to being forced by to give the results of your labor to some lazy, dumb unproductive schmuck[s]” in Israel by “the best country there is” or do you voluntarily do it, or what?

    To be forced to so is the definition of slavery.

    Enjoy your chains! and keep paying your taxes! What’s a schmuck again?

  140. @Wally

    You really should quit digging.

    You really should quit dreaming.

    Your obsession with me is just plain weird.

    You flatter yourself. What you think is an obsession is a fascination with contradiction. And it’s not you, per se, it’s your bizarre ideas.

    Are you gay or something?

    You lookin’ for a date or sumpin? (Yer outta luck in any case.) 🙂

  141. Wally says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    Oh jhesh, do I need to spoon feed you?

    Communism always does crumble under it’s own weight.

    But who is going to “target the US”? We hold up everyone else.
    The US would certainly not “collapse”, they would.

    Sanctions or not, it was the dumb Venezuelans who voted the Communists into power, not the US.
    It’s really that simple. Dumb gets what dumb asks for like oppression of free speech and collapsing economies based upon laughable Communist principles.

    I support nothing going on in Venezuela, it’s just another sh-thole filled with dumb people who created their problems.
    Leave to Communists to blame others for their own problems.

    BTW, got any more ‘real & factual’ videos for us to laugh at?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @L.K
  142. @Wally

    You seem to be confusing a social welfare state, which even Bismarck supported, with communism, in which means of production are state owned and the long term goal is a classless society that no longer requires a government at all. The two things are not equivalent. Certainly communism envisions a social welfare state, but so did the Nazis, and the Nazis obviously weren’t communists. A Venn diagram might help you understand this better.

    There’s nothing “indecent” in seeing a role for government in providing a social safety net. A majority of western governments provide one to some extent or other.

    Also, you seem to be misunderstanding the distinction between slavery, in which labor is not paid for but is instead taken by coercion, and taxation, which all governments do and which allows most people to keep a majority of their earnings. You live in a democracy where you can vote to change government spending policies. Alternately, you can choose not to pay taxes. Let us know how that works out for you. But to ask that it be voluntary is ludicrous. If coercion weren’t needed to enforce taxation, we wouldn’t need the IRS.

    • Replies: @Wally
  143. Art says:
    @jacques sheete

    Like they did to Germany, Russia,and the Ukraine, to name just 3 victims of the international banking crowd.

    Clearly the Jew has no empathy for humanity.

    America must start seriously planning a national bank as is subscribed in the Constitution.

    Clearly Greenspan’s Fed transferred wealth away from the middleclass to the 1%. Clearly Trump and his Jews are using the Fed and its fiat Wall Street money to control the rest of the planet. We are making NO friends.

    Big Jew money and democracy cannot co-exist.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  144. Parbes says:
    @AndrewR

    A Russian expressing his/her opinion is a “bot”; while YOU are simply a “normal American patriot(ard) commenter” – who happens to shit on foreign countries, governments and people as a “matter of course”.

    Crawl back into your sewer.

  145. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    – I did not say “social welfare”, which you don’t define, equals Communism / socialism.
    Just another strawman argument from you.
    – Your strawman Bismarck reference is bogus since his system was not Communism, socialism.
    – NS Germany was not trying to export it’s form of government, Communism does.
    – You laughably claim that voters can vote to change spending policies, which they really cannot, but you say nothing about voting to change taxation policies.
    – Yes, it is indecent to seize worker’s money without their permission. But Communists would disagree.
    – True enough, most western governments seize money from their workers.
    – Being forced to work for others is indeed slavery, but then as a Zionist you thrive off of slavery.
    – Then you admit that coercion is how workers money is seized. Even citing the all consuming IRS. LOL
    – You call voluntary choice “ludicrous”. Enough said. You’re a walking contradictory mess.
    Speaking of ludicrous, here you are simply demolished:
    http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/fci/andysjew.html
    and:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11798&p=88277&hilit=mathis+professor+lee#p88277
    and:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4451&p=72138&hilit=mathis+thames+mulegino#p72138

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  146. @Wally

    – I did not say “social welfare”, which you don’t define, equals Communism / socialism.
    Just another strawman argument from you.

    You didn’t say “social welfare,” but that’s what “Commentator Mike” was referring to.

    – Your strawman Bismarck reference is bogus since his system was not Communism, socialism.

    Thanks for making my point for me. Correct: Bismarck was neither a socialist nor a communist. But he did support a welfare state.

    – NS Germany was not trying to export it’s form of government, Communism does.

    Really? So it allowed the countries that it occupied to keep their governments?

    – You laughably claim that voters can vote to change spending policies, which they really cannot, but you say nothing about voting to change taxation policies.

    Don’t you think Reagan was elected in 1980 largely on the basis of his promise to cut taxes, which he did?

    – Yes, it is indecent to seize worker’s money without their permission. But Communists would disagree.

    How do you suggest that a government run without money, exactly? That point aside, I suggest you read John Locke — he makes it clear that taxation is fine as long as you allow for voting for the representatives who impose taxation. We do so every two years.

    – True enough, most western governments seize money from their workers.

    Yes, they tax their workers. Every government levies taxes.

    – Being forced to work for others is indeed slavery, but then as a Zionist you thrive off of slavery.

    I am no longer a Zionist, as I made clear to you before. You, however, are still a Nazi.

    – Then you admit that coercion is how workers money is seized. Even citing the all consuming IRS. LOL

    Again, you’re making my point for me. Coercion is necessary in taxation because otherwise people wouldn’t pay taxes. What’s your point, exactly?

    – You call voluntary choice “ludicrous”. Enough said. You’re a walking contradictory mess.

    Most people realize that societies operating on voluntarism are ludicrous around the age of 15 or 16.

    Speaking of ludicrous, here you are simply demolished:

    https://tinyurl.com/y6sy874b

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Wally
  147. @Wally

    We hold up everyone else.

    You are correct, but not in the way you think you are. The article, in case yer wondering, is all about a yoooge “hold up.”

    I support nothing going on in Venezuela, it’s just another sh-thole filled with dumb people who created their problems.

    I support nothing going on in the USA, it’s just another sh-thole filled with dumb people who created their problems.

    Leave to Communists to blame others for their own problems.

    Sounds like you have a problem or two, including the fact that you’re living in a Commie police state, meddlesome, hell hole that’s subservient to the worst gangsters in the world. Who you blaming?

    – NS Germany was not trying to export it’s form of government, Communism does.

    That’s what tRump does as well. And his boss, Bibi. That oughta tell ya sumpin.

    • Agree: J. Gutierrez
  148. @Art

    Art, try telling that to Wally. This oughta be good!

  149. peterAUS says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    Good comment.

    You, of course, know that no effort of yours will move your discussion partner one millimeter from his position.

    I guess the catch of sites like this is how to keep minority of reasonable, civil, thinkers on board in spite of inevitable mass onslaught of bots, agenda pushers, “true believers”, sociopaths and similar social flotsam.

    Their…ahm…passion.. could be often distracting.
    So, again, my compliments to the owner; that ignore list is invaluable.

    • LOL: Andrew E. Mathis
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wally
  150. Parbes says:
    @AndrewR

    What’s the compensation package from your ‘tank?

  151. Parbes says:
    @AndrewR

    I’m guessing that you have an even uglier visage than that arch-neocon toad who recently croaked, Charles Krauthammer. Oh wait – you’re probably related to him!

  152. @jacques sheete

    I gave Wally this link to the Americans for Legal Immigration that has information and videos showing DHS Busses dropping of Illegal Immigrants at Churches in the US. I told him to explain to me why Trump is bussing in Illegal Immigrants while at the same time demanding money for the wall. His response was bullshit, Obama, Dems, Socialists, etc. Same bullshit

    https://www.alipac.us/f8/trump-lets-caravan-illegals-into-usa-inspiring-more-caravans-form-369614/

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  153. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    [Lengthy but highly informative].

    – I am not this guy who your link referred to, live nowhere even close to him and am much younger.
    And only a desperate scumbag would try to harm someone by posting alleged personal information. My my, what trash Zionists accept. Some thing never change.
    I know you’ve tried this before, but that just goes to show what a liar, criminal, and desperate Zionist you are. See more information posted at bottom of this post on your crimes from those who fight back. I also understand that someone even called the FBI on you.

    [MORE]

    And you say you teach in a university? I wonder what they really know about you.
    So anyway:
    – And I’m not Commentator Mike, again, you’re confused.
    – What Bismarck did or did not support is irrelevant. Subject change again noted.
    – Germany and the countries involved were at war, the type of government that those who were occupied had is again irrelevant. Ultimately Germany had no plan to install a Communist government in any country. Subject change again noted.
    – Reagan cut what taxes? Do tell. Was Income tax abolished? Nope.
    – Money for government should not be had from income taxes, only via certain fees and minor tariffs. as was done before, well, before income taxes.
    https://pocketsense.com/united-states-government-funded-prior-income-tax-12769.html
    – Every government seizes through force money from it’s workers via income taxes, yes.
    – I belong to no political party, more libertarian than anything else,.
    – As for your dumb ‘Nazi’ nonsense:

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    – People should not have to pay the taxes that you speak of, and they do not want to, But you support violence & coercion in order seize their money. No surprise there.
    – One of the main branches of freedom equals the right to keep the money one makes.
    If one wants to voluntarily hand it over to government or some else, then so be it.
    You oppose that freedom and that says a lot about you.
    But in spite of your protesting too much, you are a Zionist:

    “I am a Zionist, albeit a very left-wing Zionist.
    – Andrew E. Mathis

    http://www.faem.com/letters/j1007aem.htm
    and you are a thuggish one at that:

    violent threats:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8945
    stalking and more:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8033
    Mathis is also known for harassing many Revisionists with threats of violence & other types of threats, and making phone calls to them, to make many long stories short. I think stalking is an appropriate description of his activities.
    and”
    Andrew Mathis, initiates aggression, stalks people, calls employers trying to get free speech activists fired, threatens them physically, threatens to sue them, leaves threatening voicemails, posts alleged phone numbers of those he thinks are Revisionists. Yes, he does.

  154. @jacques sheete

    I want to share this guy’s you-tube channel with you and share it with anyone you think might appreciate it…check out all his videos…he’s been talking about this for while..

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  155. Wally says:
    @peterAUS

    Ah yes, PeterAUS, you were demolished by me and others in the comments section here:

    Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    Everybody can easily read for themselves. I know you don’t like it, but hey, you said what you said, it’s on you.

    Having embarrassed yourself repeatedly, you still have no cogent responses, so yes, you are a sore loser and are probably having a difficult time sitting.

    Cheers.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @L.K
  156. @J. Gutierrez

    If he responds, (unlikely), it’ll be with name calling and other juvenalia. tRumpettes can’t stand the truth.

    • Agree: J. Gutierrez
  157. L.K says:
    @Wally

    Jackass Wally inadvertently lets the cat out of the bag:

    We hold up everyone else.

    Always sharp, jacques sheete fires back:

    You are correct, but not in the way you think you are.
    The article, in case yer wondering, is all about a yoooge “hold up.”

    Indeed. Paul Craig Roberts elaborates:

    Meanwhile in Venezuela, the neoconservative war criminals Bolton and Elliott Abrams are trying to smuggle in arms to the person Trump has appointed president of Venezuela in order to have a go at violently overthrowing democracy in Venezuela and replacing it with another Washington puppet. Venezuela’s state owned oil reserves, the largest in the world, are the target. This money, Washington thinks, should be going to the American oil companies, not to Venezuela’s needs.

    Americans should be very proud that their country stands up for freedom and democracy. If it weren’t for Washington, surely freedom and democracy would have been stamped out by now.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/02/21/washington-newspeak/

    Wally seems pretty impressed with the state of the ZUS economy. But is he really or is Wally just being the sad little liar that we know him to be?
    Perhaps, or perhaps not, Dr. Roberts could help Wally out again, with his excellent book “How the economy was lost”:
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/books/how-the-economy-was-lost-the-war-of-the-worlds/

    The US economy has disintegrated, and with it into the abyss plummet the blueprints of neoliberal economists, whose theories about “the free market” have now gone the way of medieval alchemy. No voice has been stronger, no prose more forceful, than that of Paul Craig Roberts in predicting collapse.

    Let’s see how such an economy will do once the ZUSA painted paper loses its role as reserve currency.

    Wally then tries to downplay the huge role of US economic warfare/sanctions with yet another LIE:

    it was the dumb Venezuelans who voted the Communists into power

    The Venezuelan government under Chavez and Maduro has never been, in any shape or form, a Communist regime.
    Wally would have to be pretty LAZY and STUPID not to know this by now, but then again, he is both lazy and dumb.
    Alternatively – and possibly more likely – Wally is just LYING.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Wally
  158. @J. Gutierrez

    Thanks, but I don’t do vids well (way too slow). Made it to ~3 mins and he still hasn’t got to any point that I can ascertain.

    What’s his point?

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  159. @Wally

    Wise was a real crackpot, but he was likely on target with that quote. So,can you tell me why tRump bends over on command for Israel?

    • Replies: @Wally
  160. @Wally

    My my, what trash Zionists accept.

    How can a tRumpeteer feel that way? tRump is an Izzie firster or have you not figured that out yet?

    PS: Please just answer the questions as best you can. Personal remarks are laughed at or ignored and besides, no one comes here to read such foolishness.

  161. L.K says:
    @Wally

    Indeed, peterAUS is pure scum, just another neocon type troll.

    However, the discussion here has NOTHING to do with the holohoax, so your bringing this up against him or holohoax activist Andrew Mathis just shows your desperation.

    BTW, and this is obvious to anyone who is not retarded, on the matters under discussion in this thread, Andrew Mathis has DESTROYED you. That musta hurt!

    Cheers, jackass!

  162. L.K says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques,

    Glad you enjoyed the video. I’m more into reading articles/books myself, but there is a place for the audiovisual stuff too. 🙂

    Great comments BTW, some of your replies to our “friend” made me LOL.

    Regards

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  163. tac says:

    Maduro announced the closing of the border between Venezuela and Brazil today, and is considering closing the border with Colombia. The border with Colombia, especially at Colombian town of Cucuta (where the infamous images of tankers blocking the bridge–that was NEVER opened in the first place, but the MSM left that part out conveniently–were constantly cycled in the news) should be of particular interest since that is where most of the ‘humanitarian aid’ is parked to be delivered on 23rd of February. What is noteworthy is that one day before on the 22nd of February there is a scheduled Live aid concert, organized by Richard Branson, set to take place with up to 300K attendees in a town of 700K. That event could be a natural opportunity to set off a false-flag event, an opportunity of smuggle weapons and mercenaries, or be used as a Trojan Horse for an invasion (with that many attendees serving as cover). Here is a video of the venue and its proximity to the border (i.e. it is literally on the bridge):

    The opposition is made up of a number of parties in a coalition (one of which Guaido is the ‘leader’ of) against the Maduro Government; incidentally Guaido’s term (the opposition coalition cycles through different leaders of opposition parties as the current acting President for a short acting term) as acting President of the opposition expires on 23rd of February so after this date inferring to him as the ‘President’ without that duplicitous cover will become hard. So it seems that the Evil Empire will be forced to act by this date to try and install a unconstitutionally selected puppet; the only question is to what extent!

    It will be interesting to watch.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
  164. Anon[293] • Disclaimer says:

    Like the sarcasm!

  165. yurivku says:
    @AndrewR

    I think this guy AndrewR not capable to understand what normal people see at once, so let me comment his bunch of crap.

    Saker, you are a shameless scumbag for posting this propaganda.

    He consider himself to have right to insult people just because they have their own POV which differ from his.

    No matter how you feel about the US, or whether the US should intervene in Venezuela, it’s beyond all dispute that Venezuela is run by evil, incompetent people.

    Look “beyond dispute” ! Why? Because he said so. So he’s kind, competent creature belonging to exceptional, indispensable nation ((c) Obama).
    So “chosen people” sound familiar, isn’t it?

    As for me he’s just alike all those clowns, starting from orange one, having in common ignorance, arrogance, hypocrisy and indifference to other people’s lives.

    Unz has forever disgraced this site by letting you post this.

    Hi AndrewR! Go to MSM’s comments section, there you’ll certainly fall in love with your stupid brothers. This place is for those who are capable to think themselves.

    Forever disgraced !!! As his “chosen people” he’s trying to shut up everybody who’s not on his side.
    The problem is – he’s from majority of Zio US which makes our chances to survive be not too high for war seems to be inevitable.

  166. yurivku says:
    @J. Gutierrez

    I’ve come to the conclusion that there a lot of brain washed, racist who chose not to see things the way a normal person does.

    Well, when I started reading here I was optimistic silly thinking that if somebody being mistaken it’s possible to explain him/her those simple things which our life consists of.

    Now I know I was stupid. Now I’m pessimistic and because of that I’m rude and hateful.

    Those who are writing here can be divided for:
    1) payable trolls
    2) smart but low educated brainwashed people
    3) dumb and low educated brainwashed people
    4) intelligent, smart, nice people, but having no desire to do something except wring here
    5) all others: clinical neocons, truth fighters … etc, but they are few

    I’m afraid, first 3 categories are the vast majority.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  167. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    said:
    “So,can you tell me why tRump bends over on command for Israel?”

    The same reason that almost all US politicians “bend over on command for Israel?”

    So what? What planet have you been on?

    Cheers.

  168. Wally says:
    @L.K

    That’s it? That’s your best response? LOL

    Alas, leave it to a Communist like yourself to support fellow Communist Maduro’s trying to disband the National Assembly, change the constitution, and create a sham parallel body filled with his loyal supporters.

    also recommended:
    Venezuela communism a disaster :https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-21/venezuela-was-my-home-and-socialism-destroyed-it-slowly-it-will-destroy-america-too

    Regards.

  169. @L.K

    Thanks, L.K. Always nice to have your support, and to read your always excellent comments.

    Thanks.

  170. @jacques sheete

    He’s x military intelligence and says the US is going to invade tomorrow or next day. He directs this video towards the soldiers being deployed and gives them advise, he tells the men in command to make sure they get the officers that are giving the orders for the deployment to sign off on an article in the Geneva Convention that states, Any force that invades a country, for the purpose of overthrowing a sitting government to will be subject to face charges in a military court. Not exactly want he says but you get the message. This guy has a lot of information about Venezuela and other S. American countries, I think that was his area of operation. He’s a good guy trying to get info to the people so they know what’s going on there.

    Are you in the US or have you got out yet? LOL

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  171. @tac

    Did you see the cover of The Economist? It has an animal that looks kinda like an Armadillo that’s place over the border of Venezuela n Colombia on a map. Tomorrow is the day they celebrate that animal and people have been thinking it was placed their as a sign of the invasion. The Rothshields own that magazine. I guess we’ll find out in a few hours.

  172. @Wally

    What I was suggesting is that an absolute monarchy could also provide complete social welfare. For example consider an absolute monarch owning his entire country and running it like a profitable corporation and providing full employment, free health and education,pensions, and other services for his citizens/employees (as some big corporations indeed do) without even the need to tax them , while also allowing citizens to run their own private businesses to a greater or lesser extent. Now I know this may sound hypothetical, but some of the absolute muslim monarchies have elements of such a system. Their any similarity with communism is that they don’t allow any criticism of the rulers, no opposition, no political parties, parliaments, people’s representatives, no freedom of the press, no freedom of speech, but the conforming citizens live a reasonably affluent existence but incomparable to that of the wealthy absolute monarch and his extended family.

    • Replies: @Wally
  173. Parbes says:
    @yurivku

    “Now I’m pessimistic and because of that I’m rude and hateful.”

    Don’t let characters like this “AndrewR” make you feel guilty or bad by calling you “rude and hateful”. (Just look at the things that this skunk himself wrote, in this thread of an article on the U.S. aggression against Venezuela!) This is a psychological trick that they use with people like Russians and Chinese, who they know to be obsessed about trying to appear nice, polite and non-confrontational. You NEED to be “rude and hateful” – and more – towards international jackals who deserve it, in matters of grave importance. International politics, economics, geopolitics, armed confrontations, and war are NOT a social event where maintaining nice, polite manners is the prime consideration. One major psycho-cultural weakness of Russians, from people like you all the way up to the level of Putin etc., is your obsession with coming across as “nice”, “cooperative”, “understanding”, and “non-confrontational” towards everybody (i.e., Putin and Lavrov continuing to call Western government figures “partners” and refusing to use harsh language with them, even as they spit in the face of Russians and threaten them). This is perceived as naïve beta-ness, impotence, cowardice, and CHUMP behavior – and is one of the main reasons for the contemptuous, disrespectful treatment of Russians and their allies.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @yurivku
  174. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    Why is my response to this illegal nonsense not allowed?

    Come on Ron, taking sides,? Doubles standards again, Ron?

    I am not this guy.

    Heavens know what that man would do if he saw such an illegal, truly threatening ‘wanted poster’ for him at your site.
    You even allowed Mathis to post this guy’s alleged address & phone number in comment #150.
    I mean WOW!

    Delete it or allow my response and hope this threatened guy doesn’t find out.

    Get a clue, Ron, Mathis is here to try and disrupt my Revisionist comments with the hopes that you will eventually ban me. That’s how they play, you should know.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Andrew E. Mathis
  175. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Hello Mike:

    You are simply relabeling everything.

    Your ‘monarchy’ would be the equivalent to the Communist elites who sucked the workers dry.

    And has been shown, it does not, cannot work.

    Thanks.

  176. yurivku says:

    Thanks, will answer later, don’t like do it from phone. But it’s about 50% what i agree with you.

  177. Wally says:
    @Wally

    [Too many comments with too much spamming. Fewer and much more substantial comments, without spamming, are far more likely to be published.]

  178. @Wally

    Again, if you and I can engage in a debate without your resorting to a list of CODOH links and/or false claims about criminal acts on my part, you and I will get along just fine.

    That has always been the deal, as well you know.

    Nothing I’ve done is illegal. If it were, I’d have been charged a very long time ago. There’s a defense for a charge of harassment when the target of said harassment repeatedly harasses the person he says is harassing him. You don’t get to be offended by what people say about you when you treat other people the way that you do. You were told this a long time ago, by people wiser than me.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Wally
  179. tac says:

    Two good videos on the Venezuela:

    An Ocean of Lies on Venezuela: Abby Martin & UN Rapporteur Expose Coup:
    (Abby Martion from Empire Files)

    2 Dead As US Forces “Aid” Into Venezuela, US Accused Of False Flag Prep & WH Says US Stays In Syria
    (The Last American Vagabond)

  180. @J. Gutierrez

    Are you in the US or have you got out yet? LOL

    I should have left decades ago. Totally loathsome place full of ignorant arrogant nobodies and getting worse by the minute. I’m so disgusted that I have no words for it.

  181. @Parbes

    Great comment.

    I especially second this.:

    You NEED to be “rude and hateful” – and more – towards international jackals who deserve it, in matters of grave importance.

    The only thing those animals understand is force or the credible threat of force. Same with all bullies, and people need to learn to confront the SOBs head on and take no prisoners.

    The “turn the other cheek”crapola doesn’t work.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  182. @Andrew E. Mathis

    You are correct, sir, and it says a lot that all of that needs to be pointed out to that one. Makes me wonder what he thinks he’s accomplishing other than tarnishing the reputations of decent historical revisionists.

    He should be embarrassed.

  183. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    But like you said, you’re curiously still here.

    Maybe Communist Venezuela would be better you.

  184. Parbes says:
    @jacques sheete

    Thank you.

    “The turn the other cheek crapola doesn’t work”

    Exactly – but it seems the Russians, especially, at the level of both the government and most of the public, yet have to understand this basic truth vis-à-vis hostile, bullying Westerners.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @yurivku
  185. Hibernian says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Not sure how Mr. Horthy got his Naval title, but before WW1 the Austro-Hungarian Empire had a coastline on the Adriatic.

  186. Hibernian says:
    @Wally

    Which is owned by the Maduro regime and Russia.

    • Replies: @Wally
  187. Hibernian says:
    @jacques sheete

    There’s no doubt that we’re united, state lines are like county lines.

  188. Hibernian says:
    @jacques sheete

    There’s a difference between recognizing the sins of the US and cheerleading for Stalinism.

  189. But like you said, you’re curiously still here.

    I never said “curiously.” Anyway, please provide proof that I curiously said I was still here. I am still here, but there’s nothing curious about it.

    Maybe Communist Venezuela would be better you.

    Did you read the article? People are not coming to the US because it’s some paradise, but because the US is trying again to make their country a cesspool like itself. Why would I go there when the ‘Merkin maniacs are going there????

    You obviously fail to notice that your Bolshie-Zionist “homeland’ is more than Red enough for me. I bet you enjoy the spectacle of tRump and con-gress bending over for Netanyahoo, doncha? Jealous that you can’t get in on their action?

    PS: Didn’t you say “bye” at least twice in very recent memory? You obviously like to stickle and sound fickle, but must you be so simple?

  190. @Parbes

    I hope they learn quickly. Meanwhile they project an aura of classiness that the bullies can never hope to achieve.

    I bet they’ll still take the high road once they learn too, and more credit to them.

    Btw, can you shed some insight into the continuing cult of Stalin? I get that Stalin, though a Georgian, was a “Russian” nationalist and that he, much to his credit, exterminated many Bolshies and made monkeys out of the corny Chruchill and goofy FDR, both of whom have much more blood on their hands than Stalin, but can you tell me why folks still insist on sweeping his crimes under the rug?

  191. Wally says:
    @Hibernian

    At the time of the heating oil handouts? Or just recently?

    And let’s see the proof of what you say.

  192. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    We never had a “deal”, I’m not that guy, and I truly will continue to post the CODOH information which exposes you and the fake “holocaust”, it’s called free speech.

    The bits of other info. are not from me, they come from others. I’m just the messenger.
    No strawmen.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  193. @Wally

    I’ve never committed any crime against you or anyone else. You know this and should stop making that claim, period.

    • Replies: @Wally
  194. bluedog says:
    @joe webb

    Hmm last I read it was a $17 trillion dollar economy, and that was suspect with fudged numbers, for some peg it as closer to a $13 trillion dollar economy.!!!.!!

  195. @jacques sheete

    I left 5 years ago and never looked back. I was lucky my family has a small ranch, property and a house here in Northern Mexico. After 50 years 20 in Chicago and 30 in Houston I let my Green Card expire. I try to convince myself I just forgot to do it, but deep down inside I think I just had enough!

    We got a new president that is aggressively fighting corruption. IO had no idea how bad it really was until I got here. Mexican State Owned Companies have been under attack the past 30 years. If one more neocon had won the election we would have lost everything to Wall Street Fund Managers. The Odebrecht scandal didn’t pass us up either, JaJaJa. Fucking Zionists are all over trying to get into key government positions, but not nearly as bad as they are in DC. I didn’t know that the Mexican Government had arrested 3 Zionist terrorist 1 week after 9-11. They were trying to get into the House of Representatives with handguns, grenades and plastic explosives. Thanks to a bunch of Union Members that were there to speak, nothing serious happened. I turns out as they were working their way inside the building they brushed on of the members. The member felt something as this guy was next to him, he looked and saw a gun and immediately jumped on him and the rest of the members grabbed the other two and held them until police came. They were going to blow up the building with people in it, leave evidence that Arabs did it, so Mexico could blame them. They needed something so Mexico could join the US invasion of Iraq.

    Israel sent people as soon as they found out and they were rushed out o the country. The union members were the ones that talked to the news otherwise it would have known.

  196. Wally says:

    Indeed, and here’s more:

    Where’s the left’s outrage over Venezuelan dictator Maduro’s slaughter of Indians?
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/wheres_the_lefts_outrage_over_venezuelan_dictator_maduros_slaughter_of_two_indians.html

    Hispanic Celebrities Trash Maduro at Richard Branson Concert: ‘Enough of Left-Wing Dictatorships’:
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/02/22/hispanic-celebrities-trash-maduro-concert-venezuela/

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  197. Socialism is a horrible economic system, but Venezuela’s problems are mainly due to US aggression (sanctions).

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Gringo
    , @Gringo
  198. annamaria says:
    @bluedog

    The MIC has a noisy corpse of eager presstitutes to maintain the MIC “values:”
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-an-ocean-of-lies-on-venezuela/5669354

  199. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    So what?

    20,000 people? Not bad given the oppressive conditions in Communist Venezuela

    And look at what those involved said. My points stand

    I also note that you ignored the other damning references I gave.

    “moonofalabama.org”? LOL

    Who are they?

    • Troll: L.K, bluedog
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  200. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    So the US forced Venezuelans to vote for Communism?
    How did that work?

    That must be why you dodged my references in comments #203 & #174.

  201. @Wally

    Who is moon of Alabama? He’s a guy who helps expose and dissect Zio-American agit-prop for war, who are you? You’re going to believe the American media on Venezuela, but not when they run the usual bullshit story on Auschwitz? Why?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-24/wapo-secretly-deletes-bransons-venezuela-concert-article-after-fake-attendance

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  202. yurivku says:
    @Parbes

    Thak you for your attention.

    I’m not truing to justify myself and I’m not asking for excuse. It’s just a regretting for the fact that the West mostly made up from criminals and brainwashed stupids. That’s mine pessimistic conclusion.
    The key work here “mostly”. I know there are some nice and smart people there, I’ve met some, but they decide nothing.

    As for Putin and his policy if turning the other cheek – I am (and believe , a majority of Russians are) fed up with that and think it’s time to show new arms performance until too late.

    regards.

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  203. yurivku says:
    @Parbes

    I’ve commented that many times in Saker’s and Martyanov’s articles.

    Exactly – but it seems the Russians, especially, at the level of both the government and most of the public, yet have to understand this basic truth vis-à-vis hostile, bullying Westerners.

    Russians (“most of the public”) do understand it, but Putin doesn’t. It’s a pity and Putin’s rating quickly goes down, but I’m afraid it’s still about 50-60%.

  204. Parbes says:
    @yurivku

    “….the West mostly made up from criminals and brainwashed stupids….I know there are some nice and smart people there….but they decide nothing.”

    Can’t argue with any of that…! Nail on the head.

  205. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    – I continue to note that you have ignored the information I have posted, in comment #203.
    Of course, it blows away your irrational, emotional attachment to Communist Venezuela.
    Oh well.

    More, and from Zero Hedge, the same source as your touted Moon of Alabama spin:

    Venezuela communism a disaster: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-21/venezuela-was-my-home-and-socialism-destroyed-it-slowly-it-will-destroy-america-too

    As I said, and you ignored yet again, your alleged ‘only 20,000 Venezuelans’ is still damn good considering the repression by the Venezuelan Communist regime.

    Who am I?
    I’m the guy who backs up what he says, you must be the other guy.

    I’m the guy who researchs my positions whether it be Auschwitz or the Communist regime in Venezuela, you’re the guy who clings to childish emotions and cannot refute me. Simple stuff really.

    Cheers.

  206. wraith67 says:

    Well obviously the west is making Maduro shoot protesters and burn relief supplies. So diabolical of them. Couldn’t be your usual Marxist shithead ruining a country while embezzling $millions. Nah, couldn’t be. Maduro doesn’t seem to missing too much of that Kobe.

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  207. Gringo says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Socialism is a horrible economic system, but Venezuela’s problems are mainly due to US aggression (sanctions).

    The facts say otherwise. For example, consider the anemic growth of the Venezuelan economy even with an oil revenue boom through 2013. When Chávez was elected in 1998, Venezuelan oil was selling for about $11/BBL. When he died in 2013, Venezuelan oil was selling for about $100/BBL. Even with this oil export revenue bonanza of around $750 billion in current dollars, Chavismo’s record on economic growth is pathetic- anemic- near the bottom of the barrel. From 1998-2013, Venezuela’s increase in per capita income was 15%, compared to 44% for the World at this time. As the Chavista-run economy did so poorly with an oil export revenue boom, it is no surprise it did so poorly after the price of oil fell.

    See the table below.

    GDP per capita, PPP (constant 2011 international $), % growth 1998-2013
    East Asia & Pacific (excluding high income) 191.9%
    Upper middle income 110.3%
    South Asia 103.9%
    Low & middle income 91.9%
    World 44.3%
    Sub-Saharan Africa 42.4%
    Middle East & North Africa 31.8%
    Latin America & Caribbean 30.2%
    Venezuela 15.1%
    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.KD?locations=PE

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  208. Gringo says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Socialism is a horrible economic system, but Venezuela’s problems are mainly due to US aggression (sanctions).

    Chávez was elected in 1998.
    From 1998 to 2016, Per capita production of Cereals fell 46.8% .
    From 1998 to 2016, per capita Crops production fell 35.7%.

    Before 2019, US sanctions were directed at Chavista bigwigs, a.k.a. Chavista thieves. I fail to see how not permitting a Chavista thief to access a US bank account of the money he had stolen will result in a collapse of agricultural production in Venezuela.

    http://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QI
    Net per capita Production Index Number (2004-2006 = 100)

    Cereals,Total (mostly corn and rice in Venezuela)
    Crops (PIN)

  209. @Gringo

    I do not claim that Venezuela had or would have living standards comparable to Western Europe or Japan. I claim that the catastrophic conditions they’re in now are mainly due to interference from the US. Again, socialism is an awful economic system, but if the Venezuelans (or anyone else) wish to adopt it, that is their business and not the Americans’. No doubt, it would have been better if the Chavistas had purged the exploitative oligarchs and introduced truly free markets, but that’s not really what the current situation is about.

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  210. Gringo says:

    I do not claim that Venezuela had or would have living standards comparable to Western Europe or Japan.
    Considering what I posted, that’s a rather disingenuous statement. The table comparing economic growth has no mention of Japan or the US. There is no mention of agricultural production in Japan or the US.

    I claim that the catastrophic conditions they’re in now are mainly due to interference from the US.

    Two points.

    Point #1. Venezuela’s current conditions didn’t occur suddenly. “Catastrophic” has described Venezuela for quite a few years. (when the only US sanctions were against Chavista bigwigs, a.k.a. thieves.)

    a. The Guardian (2017): Venezuela’s infant mortality, maternal mortality and malaria cases soar .

    Venezuela’s infant mortality rose 30% last year(2016), maternal mortality shot up 65% and cases of malaria jumped 76%, according to government data, sharp increases reflecting how the country’s deep economic crisis has hammered at citizens’ health.

    The response of the Maduro government was to fire the Health Minister for releasing the data. How many countries have a year-to year increase of 30% in Infant Deaths?

    b. From 2013 to 2018,Venezuela’s per capita income fell 48.5% (constant dollars).

    c. I previously pointed out the 1998-2016 drop in per capita production of Crops (35.7%) and Cereals (46.8%)

    Point #2.Before 2019, US sanctions were directed at Chavista bigwigs, a.k.a. Chavista thieves. Those sanctions began with the Obama Administration. I fail to see how not permitting a Chavista thief to access a US bank account of the money he had stolen – or not permitting him to take his family to Disney World- was the cause of the above catastrophes in Venezuela.

    How could sanctions against Chavista thieves cause the 30% increase in Infant Deaths from 2015 to 2016?

    How could sanctions against Chavista thieves cause the 48.5% fall in per capita income from 2013 to 2018?

    How could sanctions against Chavista thieves cause the 1998-2016 drop in per capita production of Crops (35.7%) and Cereals (46.8%)?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

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  211. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    I never said you committed crimes against me, no more strawmen.

    However, many others have said you committed cries against them.

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  212. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    said:
    ” I claim that the catastrophic conditions they’re in now are mainly due to interference from the US.”

    Yawn. You keep saying that but cannot produce proof of it.

    Yet proof is everywhere that the brutal Communist Maduro regime has created the very catastrophic condtions you try to deflect.

    more on brutal Maduro:
    Hispanic Univision News Team Finally Released After Being Held Captive In Communist Venezuela:
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/25/univision-venezuela-detained-maduro/
    “They were reportedly there to interview Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, but he reportedly did not like their questions.”

  213. @Gringo

    I simply used Europe and Japan as examples in the context of your example of international economic performance. I thought you would be bright enough to grasp the context; error noted.

    Sanctions on Venezuela go back to Obama in 2015 (under pretext of “national security”) and went way beyond travel bans on Maduro cronies (at any rate none of these men could possibly have stolen anything from the US, so the justification for sanctioning them is very unclear). And yeah, I never denied that socialist mismanagement of their economy caused problems. But it’s pretty clear that US interference has made the problems much worse, and it should not be forgotten that cratering oil prices (back to 2014), mainly directed against Russia after the Crimea comeuppance, have been devastating.

    https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14334

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  214. @Wally

    Fine, whatever. I never committed crimes against anyone. The people whose claims you’re repeating are liars. So please stop posting those lies here.

  215. Gringo says:

    I simply used Europe and Japan as examples in the context of your example of international economic performance.
    Let’s look at what you actually wrote:

    I do not claim that Venezuela had or would have living standards comparable to Western Europe or Japan.

    On the contrary, you were stating that you DID NOT use Europe or Japan as examples. What part of “I do not claim” do you not understand?

  216. Gringo says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    But it’s pretty clear that US interference has made the problems much worse,
    Consider an example your Venezuelanalysis link gives us.

    Washington almost from the beginning of Hugo Chávez’s presidency in 1999 did not stand by idly while he defied the neoliberal Washington consensus as well as U.S. hegemony. Washington’s hostility seriously harmed the economy in multiple ways. For instance, the George W. Bush administration banned the sale of spare parts for the Venezuelan Air Force’s costly F-16 fighter jets in 2006, forcing the country to turn to Russia for the purchase of 24 Sukhoi SU-30 fighter planes.

    How much did those 24 Sukhoi SU-30 fighter planes cost? From 2015, we have some information on their cost. November 1,2015:Venezuela Will Buy 12 Su-30 Multirole Fighters for 480 Million. So, those 24 fighter jets cost about $1 billion. Considering that Venezuela had about $750 billion in oil export income from 1999-2013 (current dollars), that is a drop in the bucket. Compare that $1 billion to what Chavistas have stolen, or to what Cuba has gotten- or other countries such as Nicaragua.

    Yup, that’s REALLY REALLY REALLY going to “seriously harm” the Venezuelan economy- $1 billion out of ~$750 billion (current dollars). As they say in Venezuela, “Dime otro de vaqueros.” Tell me another cowboy tale. Tell me another fish story.

    It turned out there was a valid reason for not selling any more spare parts. We hear from Slate, hardly a George W. Bush-friendly site. Does That F-16 Come With a Warranty?

    Meanwhile, U.S. military officials say they’re not selling spare parts because Chavez won’t let them inspect his F-16s. (Many contracts give the Pentagon the right to check up on military equipment, to make sure the buyer hasn’t resold it without permission.)

    Chávez thumbs his nose at the US by refusing the US permission to inspect its planes per the contract agreement. Then over a decade later, Chavezuela plays the victim. What a surprise. 🙂

    Sanctions on Venezuela go back to Obama in 2015 (under pretext of “national security”) and went way beyond travel bans on Maduro cronies .
    I had previously mentioned that the Obama administration had begun sanctions. Please document how sanctions from 2015-2018 “went way beyond travel bans on Maduro cronies.” But use a source other than Venezuelanalysis, which as its SU-30 narrative shows, is a BS site. Good for Chavista propaganda, nothing more.

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  217. @Michael Kenny

    Putin is a “little policeman” in the sense that, compared to the USA, his country is doing little to police and intervene in countries that are far from its borders.

  218. @jacques sheete

    Excellent point, Jacques.

    Americans are no longer in a position to mock Cuba as “supported only by tourism and prostitution.” It’s embarrassing to see some Americans so out of touch with the declining reality on the ground in our own country, as to mock other countries.

    THOUSANDS, not hundreds, of cities and towns around the USA are kept afloat not by manufacturing and assembly factories, not by a solid, stable small-business base, but mainly by non-productive, counter-productive, and destructive activities and agencies:

    (1) government facilities — typically a small post office, sometimes a small social security office, but most of all PRISONS;

    (2) government “welfare” benefits like “food stamps”, cash assistance and government-funded medical care for large numbers of unmarried mothers;

    (3) government benefits that are not necessarily all “welfare” but also don’t reflect compensation for current productive work, and aren’t sustainable at these levels longer-term: SSI and workman’s comp payments based on real & exaggerated disabilities, Social Security retirement payments taken as early as possible due to the lack of decent jobs and/or lack of work ethic;

    (4) “private” hospitals and medical clinics that depend on government-funded patients (Medicare and Medicaid) for a majority of their revenue;

    (5) government offices where “social workers” futilely try to ameliorate the effects of our massive and growing social dysfunction, especially fathers of all races with no intention of marrying the mother of their children, rampant opioid addiction, and slothfulness.

  219. @wraith67

    Nice. I’d amend to say “your politician’s house on socialism, communism, or crony capitalism.”

  220. annamaria says:
    @Gringo

    On a matter of cronies, specifically, on a matter of the stinky Marco Rubio, another prominent warrior for the “democracy on the march” in Venezuela:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3358281/Marco-Rubio-s-brother-law-man-international-drug-smuggling-ring-led-leopard-loving-cocaine-cowboy-kingpin-mansion-filled-big-cats-giraffe.html

    Marco Rubio’s brother-in-law was the ‘front man’ for a multi-million dollar cocaine-smuggling ring headed by a drug kingpin … Orlando Cicilia was arrested for his part in the illicit operation in 1987 during Miami’s narcotics heyday when Republican presidential hopeful Rubio was just 16.

    Cicilia, 58, who is now working as a real estate agent, served just 12 years in prison despite being sentenced to 35 for his part in the scheme. While he was behind bars, Rubio was launching his career in Florida. Cicilia was released four days after Rubio stormed into the political spotlight following his re-election to the House of Representatives in November 2000

    https://www.vox.com/2015/12/31/10695274/marco-rubio-orlando-cicilia-real-estate

    On the amazing Juan Guaido: “US pawn that can be discarded any time,” by Max Blumenthal https://www.rt.com/news/450101-guaido-us-pawn-blumenthal/

    Self-proclaimed ‘interim president’ of Venezuela Juan Guaido is a “product of US-backed regime change factory” installed to do Washington’s bidding…

    The journalist described the Popular Will party, which Guaido helped his mentor and former Caracas mayor Leopoldo Lopez to establish, as “the most violent, radical right-wing party in Venezuela functioning as shock troops of oligarchy” and as “an asset of Washington” that has been “largely discredited in Venezuela.”

    You forgot that this is Unz Review and not some CIA-sanctioned and “informed” mass media presstituting “beacon of democracy” looking for “Chavista propaganda.”

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    , @Gringo
  221. Gringo says:
    @annamaria

    From your quote of Max Blumenthal article:

    The journalist described the Popular Will party, which Guaido helped his mentor and former Caracas mayor Leopoldo Lopez to establish, as “the most violent, radical right-wing party in Venezuela…

    MEMBER PARTIES of the SOCIALIST INTERNATIONAL

    Full Member Parties: …..
    Uruguay New Space, PNE
    Venezuela Democratic Action, AD
    Venezuela A New Era, UNT
    Venezuela Voluntad Popular, VP
    Yemen Yemeni Socialist Party

    You are informing me that the Voluntad Popular/Popular Will Party, which is a Full Member Party of the Socialist International,is “right-wing”?

    As they say in Venezuela, “Dime otro de vaqueros.” Tell me another cowboy story. Tell me another fish tale.

    You forgot that this is Unz Review and not some CIA-sanctioned and “informed” mass media presstituting “beacon of democracy” looking for “Chavista propaganda.”

    As you have presented the claim that a Full Member Party of the Socialist International is “right-wing,” you are obviously pushing Chavista propaganda.

  222. Gringo says:
    @annamaria

    I suggest you look at my comment #93: “Who wrote this?” Do you consider this an accurate description of Juan Guaidó’s plans for Venezuelan oil?

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