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I have recently posted a piece in which I tried to debunk a few popular myths about modern warfare. Judging by many comments which I received in response to this post, I have to say that the myths in question are still alive and well and that I clearly failed to convince many readers. What I propose to do today, is to look at what Russia is really doing in response to the growing threat from the West. But first, I have to set the context or, more accurately, re-set the context in which Russia is operating. Let’s begin by looking at the AngloZionist policies towards Russia.

The West’s actions:

First on this list is, obviously, the conquest by NATO of all of Eastern Europe. I speak of conquest because that is exactly what it is, but a conquest achieved according to the rules of 21st century warfare which I define as “80% informational, 15% economic and 5% military”. Yes, I know, the good folks of Eastern Europe were just dreaming of being subjugated by the US/NATO/EU/etc – but so what? Anyone who has read Sun Tzu will immediately recognize that this deep desire to be ‘incorporated’ into the AngloZionist “Borg” is nothing else but the result of a crushed self-identity, a deep-seated inferiority complex and, thus, a surrender which did not even have to be induced by military means. At the end of the day, it makes no difference what the locals thought they were achieving – they are now subjects of the Empire and their countries more or less irrelevant colonies in the fringe of the AngloZionist Empire. As always, the local comprador elite is now bubbling with pride at being, or so they think, accepted as equals by their new masters (think Poroshenko, Tusk or Grybauskaite) which gives them the courage to bark at Moscow from behind the NATO fence. Good for them.

Second is the now total colonization of Western Europe into the Empire. While NATO moved to the East, the US also took much deeper control of Western Europe which is now administered for the Empire by what the former Mayor of London once called the “great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies” – faceless bureaucrats à la François Hollande or Angela Merkel.

Third, the Empire has given its total support to semi-demonic creatures ranging from al-Khattab to Nadezhda Savchenko. The West’s policy is crystal clear and simple to the extreme: if it is anti-Russian we back it. This policy is best exemplified with a Putin and Russia demonization campaign which is, in my opinion, far worse and much more hysterical than anything during the Cold War.

Fourth, the West has made a number of highly disturbing military moves including the deployment of the first elements of an anti-missile system in Eastern Europe, the dispatching of various forms of rapid reaction forces, the deployment of a few armored units, etc. NATO now has forward deployed command posts which can be used to support the engagement of a rapid reaction force.

What does all this add up to?

Right now, nothing much, really. Yes, the NATO move right up to the Russian borders is highly provocative, but primarily in political terms. In purely military terms, not only is this a very bad idea (see cliché #6 here), but the size of the actual forces deployed is, in reality, tiny: the ABM system currently deployed can, at best, hope to intercept a few missiles (10-20 depending on your assumptions) as for the conventional forces they are of the battalion size (more or less 600 soldiers plus support). So right now there is categorically no real military threat to Russia.

So why are the Russians so clearly upset?

Because the current US/NATO moves might well be just the first steps of a much larger effort which, given enough time, might begin presenting a very real danger for Russia.

Furthermore, the kind of rhetoric coming out of the West now is not only militaristic and russophobic, it is often outright messianic. The last time around the West had a flare up of its 1000 year old chronic “messianic syndrome” Russia lost 20 (to 30) million people. So the Russians can be forgiven if they are paying a great deal of attention to what the AngloZionist propaganda actually says about them.

The Russians are most dismayed at the re-colonization of western Europe. Long gone are the days when people like Charles de Gaulle, Helmut Schmidt or François Mitterrand, were in charge of Europe’s future. For all their very real faults, these men were at least real patriots and not just US colonial administrators. The ‘loss’ of Western Europe is far more concerning for the Russians than the fact that ex-Soviet colonies in Eastern Europe are now under US colonial administration. Why?

Look at this from the Russian point of view.

The Russians all see that the US power is on the decline and that the dollar will, sooner or later, gradually or suddenly, lose its role as the main reserve and exchange currency on the planet (this process has already begun). Simply put – unless the US finds a way to dramatically change the current international dynamic the AngloZionist Empire will collapse. The Russians believe that what the Americans are doing is, at best, to use tensions with Russia to revive a dormant Cold War v2 and, at worst, to actually start a real shooting war in Europe.

So a declining Empire with a vital need for a major crisis, a spineless Western Europe unable to stand up for its own interest, a subservient Eastern Europe just begging to turn into a massive battlefield between East and West, and a messianic, rabidly russophobic rhetoric as the background for an increase in military deployments on the Russian border. Is anybody really surprised that the Russians are taking all this very, very seriously even if right now the military threat is basically non-existent?

The Russian reaction

So let us now examine the Russian reaction to Empire’s stance.

First, the Russians want to make darn sure that the Americans do not give in into the illusion that a full-scale war in Europe would be like WWII which saw the US homeland only suffer a few, tiny, almost symbolic, attacks by the enemy. Since a full scale war in Europe would threaten the very existence of the Russian state and nation, the Russians are now taking measures to make darn sure that, should that happen, the US would pay an immense price for such an attack.

Second, the Russians are now evidently assuming that a conventional threat from the West might materialize in the foreseeable future. They are therefore taking the measures needed to counter that conventional threat.

Third, since the USA appears to be dead set into deploying an anti-ballistic missile system not only in Europe, but also in the Far East, the Russians are taking the measures to both defeat and bypass this system.

The Russian effort is a vast and a complex one, and it covers almost every aspect of Russian force planning, but there are four examples which, I think, best illustrate the Russian determination not to allow a 22 June 1941 to happen again:

  • The re-creation of the First Guards Tank Army (in progress)
  • The deployment of the Iskander-M operational-tactical missile system (done)
  • The deployment of the Sarmat ICBM (in progress)
  • The deployment of the Status-6 strategic torpedo (in progress)

The re-creation of the First Guards Tank Army

It is hard to believe, but the fact is that between 1991 and 2016 Russia did not have a single large formation (division size and bigger) in its Western Military District. A few brigades, regiments and battalions which nominally were called an “Army”. To put it simply – Russia clearly did not believe that there was a conventional military threat from the West and therefore she did not even bother deploying any kind of meaningful military force to defend from such a non-existing threat. By the way, that fact should also tell you everything you need to know about Russian plans to invade the Ukraine, Poland or the Baltics: this is utter nonsense. This has now dramatically changed.

Russia has officially announced that the First Guards Tank Army (a formation with a prestigious and very symbolic history). This Guards Tank Army will now include the 4th “Kantemirovskiaia” Guards Tank Division, the 2nd “Taman” Guards Motorized Rifle Division, the 6th Tank Brigade, the 27th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade Sevastopol and many support units. This Army’s HQ will be located in the Odinstovo suburb of Moscow. Currently the Army is equipped with T-72B3 and T-80 main battle tanks, but they will be replaced by the brand new and revolutionary T-14 Armata tank while the current infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers will be replaced by the new APC and IFV. In the air, these armored units will be protected and supported by Mi-28 and Ka-52 attack helicopters. Make no mistake, this will be a very large force, exactly the kind of force needed so smash through attacking enemy forces (by the way, the 1TGA was present at the Kursk battle). I am pretty sure that by the time the 1TGA is fully organized it will become the most powerful armored formation anywhere between the Atlantic and the Urals (especially in qualitative terms). If the current tensions continue or even worsen, the Russians could even augment the 1TGA to a type of 21st century “Shock Army” with increased mobility and specializing in breaking deep into the enemy’s defenses.

The deployment of the Iskander-M operational-tactical missile system

The new Iskander-M operational tactical missile system is a formidable weapon by any standard. While technically it is a short-range tactical missile (under 1000km range, the Iskander-M has an official range of 500km), it can also fire the R-500 missile has the capability of striking at an intermediate/operational range (over 1000km, the R-500 has a range of 2000km). It is extremely accurate, it has advanced anti-ABM capabilities, it flies at hypersonic speeds and is practically undetectable on the ground (see here for more details). This will be the missile tasked with destroying all the units and equipment the US and NATO have forward-deployed in Eastern Europe and, if needed, clear the way for the 1TGA.

The deployment of the Sarmat ICBM

Neither the 1TGA nor the Iskander-M missile will threaten the US homeland in any way. Russia thus needed some kind of weapon which would truly strike fear into the Pentagon and White House in the way the famous RS-36 Voevoda (aka SS-18 “Satan” in US classification) did during the Cold War. The SS-18, the most powerful ICBM ever developed, was scary enough. The RS-28 “Sarmat” (SS-X-30 by NATO classification) brings the terror to a totally new level.

The Sarmat is nothing short of amazing. It will be capable of carrying 10-15 MIRVed warheads which will be delivered in a so-called “depressed” (suborbital) trajectory and which will remain maneuverable at hypersonic speeds. The missile will not have to use the typical trajectory over the North Pole but will be capable of reaching any target anywhere on the planet from any trajectory. All these elements combined will make the Sarmat itself and its warheads completely impossible to intercept.

The Sarmat will also be capable of delivering conventional Iu-71 hypersonic warheads capable of a “kinetic strike” which could be used to strike a fortified enemy target in a non-nuclear conflict. This will be made possible by the amazing accuracy of the Sarmat’s warheads which, courtesy of a recent Russian leak, we now know have a CEP of 10 meters:

SakerSarmat The Sarmat’s silos will be protected by a unique “active protection measures” which will include 100 guns capable of firing a “metallic cloud” of forty thousand 30mm “bullets” to an altitude of up to 6km. The Russians are also planning to protect the Sarmat with their new S-500 air defense systems. Finally, the Sarmat’s preparation to start time will be under 60 seconds thanks a a highly automated launch system. What this all means is that the Sarmat missile will be invulnerable in its silo, during its flight and on re-entry in the lower parts of the atmosphere.

It is interesting to note that while the USA has made a great deal of noise around its planned Prompt Global Strike system, the Russians have already begun deploying their own version of this concept.

The deployment of the Status-6 strategic torpedo

Do you remember the carefully staged “leak” in November of last year when the Russians ‘inadvertently’ showed a super dooper secret strategic torpedo on prime time news? Here is this (in)famous slide:

SakerTorpedo What is shown here is an “autonomous underwater vehicle” which has advanced navigational capabilities but which can also be remote controlled and steered from a specialized command module. This vehicle can dive as deep as 1000m, at a speed up to 185km/h and it has a range of up to 10’000km. It is delivered by specially configured submarines.

The Status-6 system can be used to target aircraft carrier battle groups, US navy bases (especially SSBN bases) and, in its most frighting configuration, it can be used to deliver high-radioactivity cobalt bombs capable of laying waste to huge expanses of land. The Status-6 delivery system would be a new version of the T-15 torpedo which would be 24m long, 1.5m wide weigh 40 tons and capable of delivering a 100 megaton warhead which would make it twice as powerful as the most powerful nuclear device ever detonated, the Soviet Czar-bomb (57 megatons). Hiroshima was only 15 kilotons.

Keep in mind that most of the USA’s cities and industrial centers are all along the coastline which makes them extremely vulnerable to torpedo based attacks (be it Sakharov’s proposed “Tsunami bomb” or the Status-6 system). And, just as in the case of the Iskander-M or the Sarmat ICBM, the depth and speed of the Status-6 torpedo would make it basically invulnerable to incerception.


There is really nothing new in all of the above, and US military commanders have always known that. All the US anti-ballistic missile systems have always been primarily a financial scam, from Reagan’s “Star Wars” to Obama’s “anti-Iranian ABM”. For one thing, any ABM system is susceptible to ‘local saturation’: if you have X number ABM missile protecting a Y long space against an X number of missiles, all that you need to do is to saturate only one sector of the Y space with *a lot* of real and fake missiles by firing them all together through one small sector of the Y space the ABM missile system is protecting. And there are plenty of other measures the Russians could take. They could put just one single SLBM capable submarine in Lake Baikal making it basically invulnerable. There is already some discussion of that idea in Russia. Another very good option would be to re-activate the Soviet BzhRK rail-mobile ICBM. Good luck finding them in the immense Russian train network. In fact, the Russians have plenty of cheap and effective measure. Want me to list one more?


Take the Kalibr cruise-missile recently seen in the war in Syria. Did you know that it can be shot from a typical commerical container, like the ones you will find on trucks, trains or ships? Check out this excellent video which explains this:

Just remember that the Kalibr has a range of anywhere between 50km to 4000km and that it can carry a nuclear warhead. How hard would it be for Russia to deploy these cruise missiles right off the US coast in regular container ships? Or just keep a few containers in Cuba or Venezuela? This is a system which is so undetectable that the Russians could deploy it off the coast of Australia to hit the NSA station in Alice Springs if they wanted, an nobody would even see it coming.

The reality is that the notion that the US could trigger a war against Russia (or China for that matter) and not suffer the consequences on the US mainland is absolutely ridiculous. And yet, when I hear all the crazy talk by western politicians and generals I get the impression that they are forgetting about this undeniable fact. Frankly, even the current threats against Russia have a ‘half-backed’ feel to them: a battalion here, another one there, a few missiles here, a few more there. It is like the rulers of the Empire don’t realize that it is a very, very bad idea to constantly poke a bear when all you are carrying with you is a pocket-knife. Sometimes the reaction of western politicians remind me of the thugs who try to rob a gas station with a plastic or empty gun and who are absolutely stunned with they get gunned down by the owner or the cops. This kind of thuggery is nothing more than a form of “suicide by cop” which never ends well for the one trying to get away with it.

So sometimes things have to be said directly and unambiguously: western politicians better not believe in their own imperial hubris. So far, all their threats have achieved is that the Russians have responded with a many but futile verbal protests and a full-scale program to prepare Russia for WWIII.

As I have written many times, Russians are very afraid of war and they will go out of their way to avoid it. But they are also ready for war. This is a uniquely Russian cultural feature which the West has misread an innumerable number of time over the past 1000 years or so. Over and over again have the Europeans attacked Russia only to find themselves into a fight they would never have imagined, even in their worst nightmares. This is why the Russians like to say that “Russia never starts wars, she only ends them”.

There is a profound cultural chasm between how the West views warfare and how the Russians do. In the West, warfare is, really, “the continuation of politics by other means”. For Russians, it is a ruthless struggle for survival. Just look at generals in the West: they are polished and well mannered managers much more similar to corporate executives than with, say, Mafia bosses. Take a look at Russian generals (for example, watch the Victory Day parade in Moscow). In comparison to their western colleagues they look almost brutish, because first and foremost they are ruthless and calculating killers. I don’t mean that in a negative way – they often are individually very honorable and even kind men, and like every good commander, they care for their men and love their country. But the business they are in in not the continuation of politics by other means, the business they are in is survival. At all cost.

You cannot judge a military or, for that matter, a nation, by how it behaves when it triumphs, when it is on the offensive pursuing a defeated enemy. All armies look good when they are winning. You can really judge of the nature of a military, or a nation, at its darkest hour, when things are horrible and the situation worse than catastrophic. That was the case in 1995 when the Eltsin regime ordered a totally unprepared, demoralized, poorly trained, poorly fed, poorly equipped and completely disorganized Russian military (well, a few hastily assembled units) to take Grozny from the Chechens. It was hell on earth. Here is some footage of General Lev Rokhlin in a hastily organized command post in a basement inside Grozy. He is as exhausted, dirty and exposed as any of his soldiers. Just look at his face and look at the faces of the men around him. This is what the Russian army looks like when it is in the depth of hell, betrayed by the traitors sitting in the Kremlin and abandoned by most if the Russian people (who, I am sorry to remind here, mostly were only were dreaming of McDonalds and Michael Jackson in 1995).

Can you imagine, say, General Wesley Clark or David Petraeus fighting like these men did?

Check out this video of General Shamanov reading the riot act to a local Chechen politician (no translation need):

SakerShamanov Shamanov nowadays is the Commander in Chief of the Airborne Forces (see photo) whose size Putin quietly doubled to 72,000, something I mentioned in the past as highly relevant, especially in comparison with the rather tepid force level increases announced by NATO (see “EU suicide by reality denial”). To get a feel for what modern Russian airborne forces are like, check out this article.

It is not my intention here to glorify nuclear war or the Russian Armed Forces. The reason for this, and many other, articles is to try to raise the alarm about what I see is happening nowadays. Western leaders are drunk on their own imperial hubris, nations which in the past were considered as minor stains on a map now feel emboldened to constantly provoke a nuclear superpower, Americans are being lied to and promised that some magical high tech will protect them from war while the Russians are seriously gearing up for WWIII because they have come to the conclusion that the only way to prevent that war is to make absolutely and unequivocally clear to the AngloZionists that they will never survive a war with Russia, even if every single Russian is killed.

I remember the Cold War well. I was part of it. And I remember that the vast majority of us, on both sides, realized that a war between Russia and the West must be avoided at all costs. Now I am horrified when I read articles by senior officials seriously discussing such a possibility.

Just read this article, please: What would a war between the EU and Russia look like? Here is what this guy writes:

To the poetically inclined, the Russian military looks more like a gigantic pirate crew, than a regular army. The ones who rule are the ones with the sharpest cutlass and biggest mouth, typically some scurvy infested mateis who rely on the support of their mates to make any unpopular “officer” walk the plank… Or, more apt, they resemble the members of the cossack horde, run by the brashier warriors… While these troops can be very brave, at times, they are not effective in the field against a well regulated and trained modern military machine. Given this, it is improbably, ney, impossible for ordinary Russian troops to conduct operations of major consequence at more than platoon level against any disciplined armies, especially the US, British, German, or French.

This kind of writing really scares me. Not because of the imbecilic and racist stupidity of it, but because it largely goes unchallenged in the mainstream media. Not only that, there are plenty such articles written elsewhere (see here, here or here). Of course, the authors of that kind of “analyses” make their money precisely the kind of manic cheer-leading for the western forces, but that is exactly the mindset which got Napoleon and Hitler in trouble and which ended with Russian forces stationed in Paris and Berlin. Compare that kind of jingoistic and, frankly, irresponsible nonsense with what a real military commander, Montgomery, had to say on this topic:

The next war on land will be very different from the last one, in that we shall have to fight it in a different way. In reaching a decision on that matter, we must first be clear about certain rules of war. Rule 1, on page I of the book of war, is: “Do not march on Moscow”. Various people have tried it, Napoleon and Hitler, and it is no good. That is the first rule.

So who do you trust? Professional cheerleaders or professional soldiers? Do you really believe that Obama (or Hillary), Merkel and Hollande will do better than Napoleon or Hitler?

If the AngloZionist ‘deep state’ is really delusional enough to trigger a war with Russia, in Europe or elsewhere, the narcissistic and hedonistic West, drunk on its own propaganda and hubris, will discover a level of violence and warfare it cannot even imagine and if that only affected those responsible for these reckless and suicidal policies it would be great. But the problem is, of course, that many millions of us, simple, regular people, will suffer and die as a consequence of our collective failure to prevent that outcome. I hope and pray that my repeated warnings will at least contribute to what I hope is a growing realization that this folly has to be immediately stopped and that sanity must return to politics.

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  1. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This article misses the point. The biggest point, which is that there are forces (jewish) which want the US and Russia to go to war with each other and to see both countries get vaporized. That will let our overlords have a free hand in the middle east with no one to get in their way.

    So it doesn’t matter if the US knows how strong Russia is. That will not be a deterrent at all. The goal itself is to build up both countries and to see them go to war with each other. The container missiles seem like a good way to false flag WW3.

    It’s almost like people have no idea about history or what has happened in the past.

  2. Kiza says:

    …this deep desire to be ‘incorporated’ into the AngloZionist “Borg” is nothing else but the result of a crushed self-identity, a deep-seated inferiority complex…

    Ah yuy, yuy. Saker, truly, sometimes you really get carried away by flowery language and intellectualism, which makes you lose focus off the real causes.

    The explanation for the overtake of Eastern Europe by the Borg is much simpler: the Compradorial Elites in the targeted countries, on top of the common Slavic inertia. Nothing more, nothing less.

    I am sure you know how franchising system of organization works. A Franchising Package for Ruling a Country is exactly what the AngloZionist Borg sells to any group in Eastern Europe and the whole World, willing to rule on its behalf. The Borg helps bring down the existing national government through color revolution, impeachment and similar, and then hands-over the country to a selected local franchisee, who gets media control, lie boosters, elections-in-a-box etc, etc, everything that he needs to rule in the package. In return, the franchisee pays franchise fees in the form of concessions to the US and Western corporations. Very often, the Borg maintains two or three sets of Compradorial Elites in the targeted country, which ensurers competition and commitment. If the ruling one starts wavering and inclining back towards the national interest, the franchising package is delivered to a better servant at the next election.

    Such packages are being applied all around the World (Brazil most recently) and are planned for North Korea, Cuba, Russia, Iran, China etc.

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  3. What I propose to do today, is to look at what Russia is really doing in response to the growing threat from the West.

    What threat? Just the other day you claimed the threat was just a bunch of clichés.

    Fourth, the West has made a number of highly disturbing military moves including the deployment of the first elements of an anti-missile system in Eastern Europe, the dispatching of various forms of rapid reaction forces, the deployment of a few armored units, etc. NATO now has forward deployed command posts which can be used to support the engagement of a rapid reaction force.

    Yesterday just a cliché, today a disturbing move.

    Fourth, the West has made a number of highly disturbing military moves. What does all this add up to? Right now, nothing much, really. So right now there is categorically no real military threat to Russia.

    Wow, highly disturbing military moves which pose no threat.

    Rules of 21st century warfare which I define as “80% informational, 15% economic and 5% military”.

    Very informational Russian response.

    •The re-creation of the First Guards Tank Army (in progress)
    •The deployment of the Iskander-M operational-tactical missile system (done)
    •The deployment of the Sarmat ICBM (in progress)
    •The deployment of the Status-6 strategic torpedo (in progress)

    If modern warfare is 80% informational than you cleverly respond with missiles. It is exactly this sort of idiocy that is destroying Russia. What is preventing Russian diplomats from getting the western politicians and populations on their side. What is preventing their secret services from initiating color revolutions in countries currently allied with USA. Incompetence? Lack of know how? Laziness? False believe in ones own invincibility? Intellectual deficiency? Perhaps all of them combined and more. Perhaps Russians prefer simple solutions like more missiles, more submarines, etc. Perhaps anything else is intellectually too demanding or beyond their capabilities.

    Take a look at Russian generals (for example, watch the Victory Day parade in Moscow). In comparison to their western colleagues they look almost brutish, because first and foremost they are ruthless and calculating killers.

    Really? Well Saker is correct on one point. Modern warfare is only 5% military. The NATO planners and the Russians are well aware of what a nuclear war entails and for that reason it is extremely unlikely to happen. It will be the remaining 95% of modern warfare which will decide the outcome and not a very favourable one for Russia.

  4. Meh, M.A.D. is still in full force. U.S. forces sprinkled about the globe are merely multiple lines drawn in the sand. Mere markers, tripwires. Korea, Poland, the borders around the Ukraine, the old U.S. occupations in Germany at the wall were/are tripwires. If any given tripwire is violated, or overrun that means Americans killed..

    Of course the ultimate tripwires are the United States Carrier Groups in Asia and elsewhere that represent moving, floating slices of U.S. territory an attack upon which would be a clear and supposedly “guaranteed” path to an instant declaration of war. Put a hole in a carrier, you cost the U.S. \$40 billion and maybe 6000 lives. Of course, if you add the death of an escorting sub and/or escorts, you up the tally. That’s a couple or three or four World Trade Centers. A big hit and a big vulnerable tripwire and everyone knows it, the U.S. gambles on it, the Russians and Chinese calculate it. Everyone circling and the contestants are all armed with nukes. And somewhere along the way, someone makes a run at someone.

    Is there a scenario where this ends well? Will M.A.D. do the trick?

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  5. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Regnum Nostrum

    What threat?

    The threat of ambitious monkey playing with the grenade. That is a real threat.

    Modern warfare is only 5% military.

    No, it is not.

    The NATO planners and the Russians are well aware of what a nuclear war entails and for that reason it is extremely unlikely to happen.

    This is a bit of a stretch and, in the end, West’s political class, that is the decision makers, are dangerous precisely in their incompetence in warfare.

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  6. As I’ve said before, thinking NATO is a threat to Russia is simple minded stupidity. It ignores the moral weakness of the west.

    Putin is thrashing about at the moment in an attempt to appear to be much stronger than he is. While Russia has managed to upgrade some equipment, it’s training is of low quality. It excels in one thing, something it has excelled in for many years, artillery. It is the one aspect of the Russian Army western Armies genuinely fear. The rest, not so much.

    Russia has nothing the west wants that it can’t buy elsewhere.

    Russia has nothing to fear in the west. She will destroy herself, just as the Soviet Union did, and for the same avoidable reasons. The Russian Army, however, has an appointment with destruction on the mountains of Israel (Ezekial chapters 38 & 39).

    If Russia is so great, Saker, go home. We all know why you won’t, however.

  7. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    If you take the view that the world’s largest military is merely the enforcement arm of the international financial elite, AKA, Wall Street, they might lose interest in Russia next year as they fight a new president in the US.

  8. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    While Russia has managed to upgrade some equipment, it’s training is of low quality. It excels in one thing, something it has excelled in for many years, artillery. It is the one aspect of the Russian Army western Armies genuinely fear. The rest, not so much

    And your “qualifications” to make such “conclusions” are? Evidently, apart from being ignorant on Russia you have some issues with realities of the West’s armed forces. And yes, instead of quoting Bible try doctrinal and operational documents–it may get you some really needed link to the reality.

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  9. 5371 says:

    Perhaps you should offer your talents to IS, I understand they have a real appreciation for prophecy.

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  10. @Andrei Martyanov

    First of all wars do not start by accident. They are planned well ahead of time. Secondly, no atomic or hydrogen bomb has been used since the end of WW2, not even on countries which did not possess them. That fact alone gives more credence to my claim than it does to yours. The last US general who wanted to use them was unceremoniously fired.

    West’s political class, that is the decision makers, are dangerous precisely in their incompetence in warfare.

    I am not sure about that. It seems to me they have achieved the results which they wanted. Just because the results do not make any sense to you does not imply incompetence on the part of their authors.

  11. Marcus says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    This is a bit of a stretch and, in the end, West’s political class, that is the decision makers, are dangerous precisely in their incompetence in warfare.

    They seem to be interested in killing the military with PC dogma while simultaneously stepping up belligerence. Dangerous indeed.

  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    Regnum Nostrum,

    Thanks for listing all the contradictions in The Faker’s latest “analysis”. I had a good laugh.

    I know the west is extremely corrupt and degenerate. But that doesn’t excuse the pathetic level of the Kremlin’s propaganda.

    I was just reading that Germany was talking about slowly lifting the sanctions against Russia.

    Now, we have to keep in mind that guys like The Faker and his pals, like the hilariously pathetic Ischenko, for two years have written articles explaining that the sanctions are a godsend for Russia.

    Let’s see how they spin the latest developments now.

    Also, these days, the FSB’s Zero Hedge has a very hard time selling the “imminent collapse of the U.S.” to its readers. After all, it’s been “imminent” for only eight years.

    The good news is The Faker and Orlov can enjoy Miami and Boston for decades to come.

    • Replies: @Kiza
    , @Anonymous
  13. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    Secondly, no atomic or hydrogen bomb has been used since the end of WW2, not even on countries which did not possess them. That fact alone gives more credence to my claim than it does to yours. The last US general who wanted to use them was unceremoniously fired.

    You misread me. Or, if you wish, I expressed myself not clear enough. My contention, which is based on a professional military experience, for years was and reinforced itself even more recently is that West’s and especially US political elites are absolutely not conditioned by war–this fact has massive geopolitical and military implications. Unlike their Russian counterparts, US elites, for example, have very little understanding (to put it mildly) of application of military force and consequences which follow. In fact, most of those “elites” bought into their own propaganda and that is what makes them so dangerous. Add here, such as the case of Russia, a complete ignorance of the US so called “expert” community and you have a perfect storm, which may act across the whole spectrum of the warfare, from COIN fantasies to nuclear weapons included. US is itching for conventional conflict with Russia. Why so? It is a separate and very complex topic of escalation dynamics. Here we are opening a can of worms of actual military contingencies which may bring about the use of nukes mainly from US side.

    I am not sure about that. It seems to me they have achieved the results which they wanted. Just because the results do not make any sense to you does not imply incompetence on the part of their authors.

    This platitude is a bomb! Sure, if the objectives were to waste American hard and soft power capital and accelerate the emergence of true multi-polarity, then–sure. Awesome “strategists”, I would say. But that brings us to square one–in order to comprehend a reality one has to have at least some combination of professionalism and common sense, those commodities among US “strategists” (neocon cabal anyone?) are, certainly, in short supply. The only art they managed to master is “perception management”, that is what used to be called BSing people. As Bertrand Russel stated in 1970:”When I was young I liked mathematics. When this became difficult for me, I took to philosophy, and when philosophy became too difficult I took to politics.”(c). Real war and real military science are these Russel’s mathematics, they are difficult to learn, let alone to master–neocons are capable of neither, yet it was them who effectively ran US into the ground.

  14. The Saker is telling us that the West cannot win a war with Russia and that therefore the West should not seek a war with Russia. I can think of other reasons not to seek a war with Russia but American cities becoming smoking ruins is a good one. Bar stool Napoleons will of course disagree and nitpick this simple proposition.

    • Agree: Anonym
  15. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    The Saker is telling us that the West cannot win a war with Russia and that therefore the West should not seek a war with Russia.

    The West can not win conventional war within Russia’s vicinity. Beyond that vicinity, Russia does not have any real military plans in Europe. The onset of this reality is what created such a hysteria in western mass-media and political class. Yes, I read George Friedman’s (of STRATFOR fame) “scenario” of such a conventional war between US and Russian forces in Ukraine. Obviously, the guy is a hack but these wet dreams were dashed pretty fast. Currently, West’s “elites” are in the state of acute Russophrenia (a brilliant observation of Bryan MacDonald)–a condition where the sufferer believes Russia is both about to collapse, and take over the world. US military thought (forget just official doctrines) was built in the last quarter century on the assumption, and a fantasy la-la land built by “expert community”, including a collection of Russian hacks such as Goltz, Falgenhauer etc. that Russia will not have an appropriate conventional (I underscore–conventional) response. After 911, this is a second most catastrophic failure of US intelligence (“expert”) community to grasp the dynamics of Soviet/Russian development. Not only late Soviet military history was pretty much rewritten to fit triumphalist narrative, but every Russia’s post-Soviet military development, most of which were in the open, was interpreted as everything else but what it really was–enough to read Roger McDermott’s “interpretations” of Serdiykov’s “reforms”.

    US still remains world’s premier conventional power, especially, by far, a naval one, but for the first time in history US territory is totally within reach of Russian conventional (underscore again–conventional) weapons, many of them. This is not a paradigm many in D.C. want to live in and this is the outcome they didn’t expect since, as I pointed in my post above, they really started to believe their own propaganda and fairy tales.

  16. voicum says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    RN you,sir,have deep comprehension problems.

  17. voicum says:

    are you awake or…

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  18. @Regnum Nostrum

    You are wrong about the nonuse of nuclear weapons. Unofficial reports point to around fifty being used in the ME the US and Europe, mostly mininukes officially blamed on much weaker carbombs. But in addition five were used in Afghanistan and Iraq. The resulting cancer stats are in agreement with what would be expected from nukes and not depleted uranium. The media were used to prepare the establishment for the effects of a conventional Moab, saying it would produce mushroom clouds like a nuke. Needless to say, normally the military doesnt announce its attacks in advance.

  19. Philip Owen [AKA "Soarintothesky"] says:

    Russia has a manufacturing economy between Turkey and Spain. It’s technical level is a bit better. Say Italy or Sweden, certainly not UK, France nor the Netherlands. For example, there is one small 1970’s carbon fibre (all those wonderful planes like the S500) plant in the country. For example, the Armata tank fire control system and optics are French. The reactive armour is 20 years ahead of anyone else’s because it was obsolete 20 years ago. Modern armies use Chobam armour. Medvedeev announced grand plans for expansion of the carbon fibre plant last year, mostly to make civilian SJ100’s – the fibre is imported, as are the engines – 60% of the plane by value altogether, which is as it should be in a country with peaceful intent. This year he is telling pensioners, Putin’s core voters, that there is no more money.

    Translating Girkin’s posts was a crucial service at an interesting time. Now you are embarassing yourself.

  20. Max Payne says:

    The missile container video gave me a hard on.

  21. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Philip Owen

    all those wonderful planes like the S500

    S500 is next generation Air (Missile) Defense Complex. The only things which fly there are its missiles. You obviously wanted to say crap about T-50 (aka PAK FA), which is made out of Russian produced composites. You already have shown what an ignorant creep you are. And, btw, Armata’s fire control and sensors are all made in Russia.

  22. nonSense says:

    I think this is a good article, written with genuine concern for the fate of humanity, it is not Russian propaganda.

    For me this can be summarized in just a couple of lines:

    1) Yes, US is on the decline and they will continue the course of confrontation with Russia, China and Iran because they (those three countries) do not want to submit to the domination of the Empire

    2) As far as the war goes there are only two options:
    a) Conventional war
    b) Nuclear war

    In case of nuclear war I cannot imagine it will be limited on one region (for example Eastern Europe). If/when first nuke crosses the Russian border dozens of them will land in the US frontyard, and that’s it… there is no winner in that scenario…

    In case of non-nuclear war, where would that take place? In Ukraine? Again, if NATO troops start crossing Russian border we go back to the scenario from the previous paragraph… Armageddon…

    Western leaders, both politicians and military are totally insane, plain and simple…

    • Replies: @rod1963
    , @ContrarianEd
  23. @5371

    The Russian Army, however, has an appointment with destruction on the mountains of Israel (Ezekial chapters 38 & 39).

    Your brain on Judeo-Christian Values.

    Let’s have some sympathy for the patient.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @in the middle
  24. rod1963 says:

    Quite true, the West’s political class is mostly composed of failed lawyers who took to legal chicanery to enrich themselves and along the way started to believe their own BS like McCain, Grahm and others in the Senate. The military side is even worse. You don’t make general in today’s military without being a political hack and asskisser like Patreus, McAffrey and Wesley Clark.

    They all forget the enemy has a vote and no plan survives contact with the enemy. They also neglect to understand that our military hasn’t had a major fight since Vietnam. Panama, Somalia, Iraq and Afghanistan don’t count. We were fight impoverished people with no real military – even so they bled us real good given their lack of resources and our total military dominance.

    The closet we ever came to slugfest in recent times was Falluja(which strained the Marine Corps to it’s limits) we suffered comparatively minimal casualties, yet the experts have spun that battle to the equal of Stalingrad.

    The point is, we really can’t do a conventional slugfest anymore. Yeah I know the “experts” say otherwise including the legendary McMasters. But McMasters sole combat command experience was rolling up a 3rd rate Iraqi tank army in 91. BFD.

    Russians = Iraqis. Sure sparky.

    Fact is we’re a couple million men too short overall. We cannot sustain any sort of moderate to heavy casualties, we cannot rotate units(we only did it in Iraq because the fighting a on and off affair). Nor can we support a logistical train into Belarus and Russia, it’s too long and too vulnerable. It would take the bulk of our military just to keep it secure.

    Fly stuff in? Not for long, you have any idea how much a mechanized infantry brigade consumers in fuel alone in a day while going full tilt? Won’t work. They’ll be out of fuel in less than a week and dead meat the next without their high tech toys.

    Worse we did not refit our gear after Iraq and Afghanistan(most of the money is going to worthless new weapons like the F-35) and we shit canned a lot of experience combat troops in the draw down. But we now have gays, bull dyke lesbians and trannies serving.

    Wow. Maybe we’ll make the Russians laugh themselves into surrendering.

    With the loss of that 4th generation stealth drone in Iran, was a disaster for American military aviation. The sensor suite and LO material is a gold mine of data. It represented the apex of Stealth tech. When we roll in with F-22’s and B-2’s it won’t be a surprise to the Russians at all.

    BTW if we’re tied up with Russia, what makes the U.S. high command think the Chinese won’t take advantage of that and say take Taiwan and Vietnam?

    Also what happens if the Russians bring the war to the U.S. with it’s special ops doing selective wet work on leading political and business leaders?

  25. 5371 says:
    @Philip Owen

    A misspelling, a factual error and a logical flaw in every single sentence. Impressive from Wallowintheshit.

  26. @Peter Grafström

    You have forgotten to mention the nuke which exploded in your bedroom and fried your brain.

    • Replies: @Peter Grafström
  27. I’m not sure any semblance of good judgment based upon reality is possible for a cohort of leaders who also believe in fantabulisms that there is no actual male or female and obsessively issue decrees commanding transgender bathroomism as the highest aspiration of their morality. Whatever they dream up, they confuse with reality. So to them there seem no limits to what they can fantasize and believe, even if it’s imposing crazed beliefs upon all mankind (and for a sizeable profit, to boot.)

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  28. @Regnum Nostrum

    What I wrote is the accounts of experts on nukes and doctors who found double and triple cancers ie two- three independent types in the same patients. The statistics from Basra was terrifying and due to the otherwise spread information about depleted uranium people erroneously assume that’s the explanation. In Afghanistan nukes were said to be used to bomb caves and to probe underground tunnels. Unusual spread of cancer among soldiers and signs of instantantaneous death of birds who through rigor mortis didnt fall of the trees, since their claws got stuck in the branches. One nuke was said to be used near the border of Iran apparently only for testing.
    You’re the one with the heated head so in this comment I will spare it from further visits outside your cosy cell in the matrix.
    Suffices to point to mininukes from 1954, size of a melon for use in artillery over a modest range. The magnitude was less than 16 tons tnt equivalent. Not kilotons.
    The explosion looked different from ordinary artillery mainly regarding the high slender pillar of smoke indicating a very high temperature and rapidly rising air. But no longdwelling intensively hot plasma as expected when comparing with nukes of higher magnitude.

  29. nonSense says:

    Probably less than 4% of all in-bound containers gets scanned, according to this Bloomberg article:
    In other words there is 96% chance ANYTHING can be smuggled into US at any given time. So much for the homeland security. Taking off your shoes at the airport may not protect Americans after all.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  30. KA says:

    NATO in Montenegro: Securing the Rear Before Barbarossa II?

  31. Mulegino1 says:

    The Saker is absolutely correct.

    Montgomery’s words retain their absolute validity. “Do not march on Moscow” is the soundest advice imaginable.

    The current NATO conventional forces are led by military “persons” (mostly in skirts) who apparently believe in the invincible Gospel of political correctness, and the idea that you can substitute any old transgender or aspiring bull dyke for a virile warrior and still obtain, man for man, or man for woman, or man for question mark, the same result. Some of these people truly believe that political correctness represents a column of force equal to that of cruise missiles or tactical nukes, and that fighting for homosexual or transgender rights will lead, in and of itself, to righteous victory. This is kind of a Crusades in reverse (no pun intended), and no, “Deos” will not “vult” the way to victory. If the virile Wehrmacht and its many allies could not defeat Russia, even with the achievement of strategic surprise, then how will the feminized NATO forces fare?

  32. @rod1963

    Also what happens if the Russians bring the war to the U.S. with it’s special ops doing selective wet work on leading political and business leaders?

    Yes, please. And don’t be selective.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  33. Excellent article. If the US president had been significantly further to the antiwar Left or the libertarian Right, he/she would have realized that peace and cooperation with Russia should be the foundation of our foreign policy. Both countries now are moving toward a ruinous, dangerous armaments race to build a new generation of nuclear weapons.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  34. White Jewish demon trash proving its masculinity and stupidity.

  35. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    There was a time when Jews got kicked out of every nation.

    But Jews took control of America, and now their military and financial wars are driving every people out of their nations.

  36. annamaria says:
    @Adolf Verloc

    Note that RF had been trying hard to build both trade and cultural relationships with the US and EU, until the Georgian and Ukrainian affairs destroyed any illusions re Borg. These good-will attempts showed an impossible RF’ naiveté in the face of Western mega-war profiteers (and the “exceptional” and “chosen.”) The Empire of Federal Reserve wants Russian flesh by default.

  37. @Peter Grafström

    It’s highly likely that mini-nukes were used on 9-11 (but one example being the underground fires that raged for months unabated, that was not burning jet fuel).

  38. Sam Shama says:
    @Peter Grafström

    Do you have a link to any discussions on these reports? thx

  39. Let’s remember it’s unlikely NATO can succeed where the Wehrmacht failed. Wehrmacht was one of the best armies in history. But already by August 1941 the operation Barbarossa failed. ‘Do not march on Moscow’.

    [quote]The main theme of his book is not to present the tactical events of Barbarossa per say but to suggest that the Germans lost all chance of defeating Russia by mid August 1941, after the strenuous battle at Smolensk.[/quote]

  40. Unit472 says:

    Any thinking person would realize the insanity of attempting to use ICBMs as anything other than a doomsday weapon.

    First of all there has never been a real life test of these missiles being fired in a coordinated salvo of even a dozen at a time yet a 1st strike would require the ability to simultaneously launch even larger numbers.

    Second, one has only to look at the difficulty ( and failure rates) of successfully launching a solitary missile carrying a commercial or scientific payload even with teams of technicians monitoring the launch vehicle under ideal conditions. Russia’s miserable record of failures using its most reliable boosters for commercial satellite launches ought to disabuse anyone from believing it’s strategic rocket forces could successfully fire large numbers of heavy missiles that have been sitting dormant in inventory for months or even years!

    Finally, even if you were to attempt such a reckless and foolhardy attack and succeed what do you achieve but the utter destruction of the global economy including your own! Just imagine if just one major city was hit with a 200 kiloton warhead. London, New York, Tokyo or even Moscow and imagine how global commerce would die as the costs reverberate through the world financial system.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Avery
  41. @Anonymous

    Why would Russia not nuke New York, Dallas and LA as retaliation? Or any smaller US town, as a kind of warning?

  42. Re-instate the JF Kennedy policies:

    – US congress decides on printing extra money to maintain a full employment economy: NASA space program, US infrastructure, organic food, Solar cell improvements, Electric cars, no more patenting (max. 5 years).
    – Talk to the Russians and make deals/peace
    – defund the CIA/FBI/NSA/US military to bring down the US war economy
    – go into space
    – have a properous ecconomy for all (easy with current technology)

    Only Satanists would wish otherwise.

  43. @Sam Shama
    and part 2 and 3
    That part-3 has graphics showing nuclear bunker buster penetrating to different depths

    The link below mentions a ‘conventional'(?)super bunker buster

    The blogs owner Will Thomas suffered a heart attack a couple of years after but I think he recovered.

    The USA Have UsedTacticalNuclear Weapons in Afghanistan and Iraq
    By LEONID SAVIN. 09.04.2012

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  44. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The zionist/Jew problem is real, and it must be resolved. zionist israel has caused more than its share of death, theft, and destruction, and its capture and control of the United States government is criminal at best, insanity at its worst. It’s time to shut down the illegal zionist state and all of its partners around the globe.

    And yes, a hot WW III with Russia appears to be a zionist goal. I don’t know anyone in America who wants to blow up the world, but, then again, I don’t socialize in zionist circles – I’m the Goyim that the israelis want to kill off.

  45. @Beefcake the Mighty

    4 sure. It is for a reason that the NNSA used full radiation protection (even covering the ears) when they filtered out and took care of body parts from over 700 of the corpses. This was done at Fresh Kills. Lots of decontamination chemicals were used. Moreover the rescue workers wore dosimetres which were monitored every day probably in order to rotate them before the doseage would lead to radiation sickness. NNSA (started up in 2000) also found 80 anomalously high radiation hotspots in the surroundings afterwards when measuring from low flying choppers

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  46. Che Guava says:

    If Russia is so great, Saker, go home. We all know why you won’t, however.

    I don’t know that (‘why you won’t).

    Suppose I am a minor part of ‘we all’.

    Quoting OT apocalyptic passages as if they predict current events. One can only hope that your screen name is the one you use in some MMORPG, or your real title at some meaningless base, and nothing more.

    Suppose there must be quartermasters in the U.S. for nukes, too, one would imagine that you would fail the psych. tests.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  47. Boris N says:

    All these matter only if we assume Russia is really an independent country, that is absolutely not true. In fact, Russia is a cryptocolony of the UK-Benelux, the extent of the real but much hidden control of Russia by these four countries is enormous; the share of Germany-France (and even Italy, just imagine this how low Russia has fallen) and the US is also significant but much less important. Russia has got even less independence than obvious puppet states like Czechia or Poland. What we are seeing now in Russia, Ukraine and in the CIS in general is a Great Game for the entire control of that region. The UK-B control now a lot of Russia, but G-F and the US want their lion’s share. The winner must be only one, it is either the UK-B or the G-F or the US, so the struggle is really tense. Not to mention there is a forth player appearing, China is also trying to play in this game and to take control over Central Asia (I think the most interested in this region is the US, so it is a rather China-US game).

  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    How about a bullet instead? Isn’t it more human to remove the suffering from their affliction?

  49. annamaria says:

    “Just imagine if just one major city was hit with a 200 kiloton warhead. London, New York, Tokyo or even Moscow and imagine how global commerce would die as the costs reverberate through the world financial system.”

    The article is about the US’ provocations against Russian federation; these provocations could effectively lead to the end of humankind. Your post gives an impression that Russophobia could trump any attempts at stopping the madness.

  50. Che Guava says:
    @Peter Grafström

    All of these comments about mini-nukes remind me of the great film Starship Troopers, and the entertaining conspiracy theorist Joe Vialls (sincerely, R.I.P.), who claimed that any sizeable bomb attack anywhere was a ‘mini-nuke’. Seems the meme has spread since then.

    If the U.S.A. had really been using ‘mini-nukes’ as you and a couple of other comnenters claim, other state actors would surely have called them to task.

    There is an interesting and apparently true tale (recalled from reports soon after) from Bush I’s Gulf atrocity, the U.S. dropped a massive fuel-air explosive near a Royal Marines position, the sergeant or corporal called his base and said (not an exact quote, but close, the real one is better) ‘Sir, the Americans seem to have dropped a nuke not far from our position.’

    • Agree: Regnum Nostrum
  51. @Sam Shama

    Pictures of the Basra babies

    [While the link below speaks of DU poisoning it is more likely to be the result of nuclear bombing. The probabilities for triple cancers etc are astronomically small unless the doseage is extremely high. ]

    Dr. Jawad Al-Ali (55), director of the Oncology Center at the largest hospital in Basra, Iraq stated, at a recent ( 2003) conference in Japan:

    “Two strange phenomena have come about in Basra which I have never seen before. The first is double and triple cancers in one patient. For example, leukemia and cancer of the stomach. We had one patient with 2 cancers – one in his stomach and kidney. Months later, primary cancer was developing in his other kidney–he had three different cancer types. The second is the clustering of cancer in families. We have 58 families here with more than one person affected by cancer. Dr Yasin, a general Surgeon here has two uncles, a sister and cousin affected with cancer. Dr Mazen, another specialist, has six family members suffering from cancer. My wife has nine members of her family with cancer”.

  52. @Anonymous

    ww3 will end with nukes.

    it is why anyone who wants wars needs to have their lives ended with extreme prejudice.

  53. @Che Guava

    Ask a physicist about this phenomena and he or she would talk about the Rayleigh-Taylor instability, which describes the interaction between two materials (fluids or gasses) of different densities when they are forced together. In an explosion, the less dense hot air is meeting the more dense cold air and (not to be too technical) smooshing into a mushroom shape. That’s why mushroom clouds aren’t confined to nuclear explosions. In our visit to the Marine Corps training ground, we saw them appear after even 1000- or 500-lb. bomb blasts.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @Sam Shama
  54. Johann says:

    Factor in the reality that the Obama/Biden regime is pushing a quota system for women, homosexuals and transsexuals into the combat units of the empire. A betting man would put his money on Putin.

  55. joe webb says:

    the sacker employs the left lexicon, with words like “colonization” etc. This guy is like Paul Craig Roberts, a nut case.

    Western Europe, if ‘colonized’ by the Anglo Zionists, itself a propaganda term, have voluntarily signed up for it.
    Why any one reads this guy is beyond me. The riddle of the sacker…all you need to know is that he is a race egalitarian and luvs MLK. Whatever worth nationalism has, and it has a lot, it is subject to a lot of irrationality. WW3…funny, like the image at the top…from television.

    Joe Webb

  56. You are mentioning the world’s biggest cities, but even if several Eastern European cities were hit, there would be financial problems for many beyond those borders. Western Europeans are financially exposed in Eastern Europe – there are many investments, including the banking sector with, if not gigantic, then reasonable (and stable) profits. Many own land in EE. In the case of any sort of conflict, many Western investors would suffer financial losses, even if they evacuated fast. It would be interesting to do a calculation (I often wonder what the Western financial losses were in Donbass, well, they would be bigger in the above case scenario). It would mean that all the money that’s already been invested (including private bank loans and their potential returns), would be lost, and it would be interesting to calculate the hypothetical amount of potential defaults. Besides there is no longer EE, there is EU. This is not 1940.

    Another issue would be the Russian speaking populations. It is clear after what happened in East Ukraine, that the Russian government is not going to bail out / save Russian speakers (except the refugees to Russia). In fact, ethnic Russians were probably the ones who suffered the most in that conflict. We call them Ukrainians but they are in fact ethnic Russians (yes, we have a few in Latvia too, asking for refugee status, I heard there are even more in Poland).

    Despite of what they claim, ethnic Russian populations (and we’re talking millions here) are highly invested in the stability of the EE countries they reside in. They don’t want to go to Russia (esp. not as refugees) and most of them do not want to flee to the West (those who wanted to, have already done so legally or illegally). Above all they don’t want to see their newly remodeled homes, hipster cafes and kindergartens bombed.

    So who are the Russians gonna bomb if they decide to bomb, let’s say, the Baltics? They’re gonna bomb their own (yes, that would include ethnic Russian children). Hell, they might even bomb Alla Pugachova’s dacha or something. I heard a high ranking official who is close to Medvedev has property in Latvia. Along with many other Russian millionaires. They’d be bombing their own properties. Millions of dollars of equity, not to even mention the human costs.

    Is all that worth it just to show NATO who’s boss? You tell me.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  57. And what Boris N already mentioned above: Western exposure in Russia itself. Here, again we would need calculations (I’m sure their finance ministry has those). Reliance on Western tech, etc. No wonder Dugin called Putin a zapadnik. Putin with all his protectionism and things like denying Statoil the rights to drill in the Russian Arctic, etc., is still open to Western money. I don’t have details on what “deals” he allows these days, but by that definition alone even Putin is “colonized” by the West. Which is absurd, ofc, because we just call it “globalization”.

  58. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:

    Well put, good word economy!

    hands-over the country to a selected local franchisee, who gets media control, lie boosters, elections-in-a-box etc, etc.

    Could call it ‘‘McGoverment”…. “One order of McGov… ‘do you want fries and a coke with it?”’

    • Replies: @Kiza
  59. annamaria says:
    @Latvian woman

    You mean, the Russian Federation moved aggressively too close to the NATO borders?

    “George Kennan, the dean of U.S. diplomats during the Cold War, predicted in 1997 that NATO’s reckless expansion could only lead to “a new Cold War, probably ending in a hot one, and the end of the effort to achieve a workable democracy in Russia.” Last year, former Secretary of Defense William Perry warned that we “are on the brink of a new nuclear arms race,” with all the vast expense — and dangers of a global holocaust — of its Cold War predecessor. And just this month, President Obama’s own former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned that NATO’s plans to deploy four battalions to the Baltic States could result “very quickly in another Cold War buildup here, that really makes no sense for either side.”

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov: “NATO military infrastructure is inching closer and closer to Russia’s borders. But when Russia takes action to ensure its security, we are told that Russia is engaging in dangerous maneuvers near NATO borders. In fact, NATO borders are getting closer to Russia, not the opposite,”

    It would be better for everyone if the “exceptional nation” were ruled by true patriots and not by mega war profiteers and the “firsters.

  60. Che Guava says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    Thx. Regnum.

    I do have some idea, and limited but real military background, well comprehend the physics principles, but thanks for the reminder.

    The quote from the Royal Marine is true, and contemporary, however, it is only from memory, since it was before everyone and their monkey had ‘net access, and from print media, I cannot provide a link, but do not misinterpret the post. Being aware of the physical properties you mention, I am not suggesting it was a ‘mini-nuke’, just the opposite. A conventional explosive made to look like one.

    These days, any state can make them, the principle is not difficult.

    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
  61. So is the current Polish government at “McGovernment” too? Rhetorical question.

    And, trust me, Poland (and to some extent Lithuania) were a big pain in the butt for the US State department even during Tusk’s time. Because even the liberal Polish government did NOT want to do many of the things American diplomats insisted that they do. I can only picture the headaches they’re having now in their diplomatic relations.

    Another issue is popular support. Popular support (real phenomena) was high for NATO membership in Poland, the Baltics, etc., not as high for the EU. In Ukraine, popular support for NATO membership is very low. Why, aren’t the Western Ukes completely brainwashed by the West? Why is half of Ukraine pro West, the other pro Russia? No, it’s because they don’t want it! From what I understand, not even Western Ukrainians want it. That’s the will of the actual people on the ground, it’s that simple. You can’t do a color revolution (just like you can’t do an opolchenye) without some real, substantial popular support (from the ground up).

    And the last point – the American public is NOT as brainwashed as it was believed to be. It will be very hard to sell another war to the post Trump / Bernie American public. Maybe strikes on ISIS but a potential war on Russia would be extremely unpopular (if it even came up).

  62. anna,

    Russia would’ve re-started building up its military anyway. Oil went from \$20 in Yeltsin’s time to \$100 in Putin’s time. That’s just what big countries do. As far as I recall, the re-building of Russian military accelerated at least 10 if not more years ago(way before the Ukraine conflict and the current NATO exercises). It followed the whole Putin’s strengthening of the country, it would’ve been weird if they hadn’t improved their military as well.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  63. @Che Guava

    I have posted the quote from Popular Mechanic in support of your skepticism about mini nukes flying all over the place as some people tend to believe.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  64. @Che Guava

    The Russians probably struck back once in Iraq 200m from a hotel where CIA folks were staying, apparently to warn them. As in many other cases with mininukes they are placed underground eg in a sewer so much of the signature is hidden. If it is true it probably was a retaliation for mininukes against Russian targets around 1999. The west blamed the FSB and cited that they would have been caught barehanded. But the truth was that they DISCOVERED some explosives and the real explosion was estimated to have been 100 ton tnt equivalent by an expert interviewed by the CNN. After a while they realized that this wasnt good for their Russiabashing intentions and cleansed the web from all instances they could get their hands on. Vialls is believed by some to have been the former Mossad agent Ari Ben Menasche and the Israelis probably know about such mininukes.
    But that isnt critical, the important thing is that many purported car bombings are too weak to explain their effect as well as the size of the crater. So they must have been dug down a bit or put in a sewer. The OKC 1995 bombing is such a case. Even the neocons have claimed that the bombing of wtc in the 90s was nuclear. Some say an emergency demolition protocol for wtc was the result of that bombing in order to prevent a nuclear bomb explosion further up the building and that this was the protocol followed on 9/11.
    Since many were of the impression that airplanes had crashed into the buildings the events at the Pentagon were interpreted as a sign the airplanes had brought nukes with them.
    About you mentioning the fuel air bomb. Take a look at my refences in #49 to find that there are suspicions about those moabs and whatever their designation is. They are just an order of magnitude heavier than ordinary weapons. But a nuke has a million times higher energy density. There is no compare. Bunker busters for deep penetration are nukes no matter what they say. The bigger size makes sense to penetrate by mere inertia a bit down but then nukes take over. There will be continued lying about this of course.

  65. And to add about NATO – while I understand how that sort of activity can be very annoying to Russia, these are very, very small facilities (40 officers in each) and when soldiers exercise it’s like a 1000 troops (most of them local or from Benelux and only a couple of hundred Americans here and there). Maybe more in Poland.

    And frankly, I don’t see how countries like Poland and Hungary are on “Russia’s borders”, they’re Central European countries.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  66. Cyrano says:

    Gorbachev was right about one thing (he wasn’t right about too many): By doing what they (Eastern Europe) did with their sovereignty after it was gifted to them by the USSR in 1991, they showed that they didn’t deserve it in the first place. If they wanted freedom so much, why did they sell it to the west immediately after they got it?

    Perhaps the case can be made for calling Eastern Europe rape victims prior to 1991, and after that – they turned into whores. The act being performed on them is the same, the only difference is that now they are being financially compensated. I personally have more sympathy for rape victims.

  67. @Anonymous

    I read everywhere in Unz comments that the Jews control the USA, Europe, the news media, movies, the Defense Department… you name, and diese feigen Juden deftly rule it, cunning cabal of conniving conspiratorial cons!

    Now we’re assured that the Jews want to destroy it all.

    And I’m all like, Say whu…?

    Even accepting, for the sake of argument, that they’re a gang of rabid misanthropes, why would people of such manipulative genius burn down a system which they totally control?

    Dude… get a new obsession. This one’s been wrung dry.

  68. annamaria says:
    @Latvian woman

    The article is about NATO’ provocative encircling of Russian Federation and the new phase of arm race targeting RF (and China), which is endangering the whole world.
    What’s wrong when a state is working on being ready for defending its sovereignty?
    To reiterate:
    “George Kennan, the dean of U.S. diplomats during the Cold War, predicted in 1997 that NATO’s reckless expansion could only lead to “a new Cold War, probably ending in a hot one, and the end of the effort to achieve a workable democracy in Russia.” Last year, former Secretary of Defense William Perry warned that we “are on the brink of a new nuclear arms race,” with all the vast expense — and dangers of a global holocaust — of its Cold War predecessor. And just this month, President Obama’s own former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned that NATO’s plans to deploy four battalions to the Baltic States could result “very quickly in another Cold War buildup here, that really makes no sense for either side.”

    Here is what has become of the military-unprepared Libya when the US had decided to implement “some changes:”
    “In 1967 Colonel Gaddafi inherited one of the poorest nations in Africa; by the time he was assassinated, he had transformed Libya into Africa’s richest nation. Prior to the US-led bombing campaign in 2011, Libya had the highest Human Development Index, the lowest infant mortality and the highest life expectancy in all of Africa.
    Today, Libya is a failed state. Western military intervention has caused all of the worst-scenarios: Western embassies have all left, the South of the country has become a haven for ISIS terrorists, and the Northern coast a center of migrant trafficking. Egypt, Algeria and Tunisia have all closed their borders with Libya. This all occurs amidst a backdrop of widespread rape, assassinations and torture that complete the picture of a state that is failed to the bone.” – “We came, we saw, he died…ha, ha, ha,” Mrs. Clinton.

  69. Avery says:

    {Russia’s miserable record of failures using its most reliable boosters for commercial satellite launches…}

    [Soyuz Rocket Has Long Track Record]
    {McDowell is an x-ray astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophyiscs, who, in his spare time, produces an excellent, free newsletter, Jonathan’s Space Report. It provides details on space launches on a roughly monthly basis. The most recent edition, No. 646, includes statistics on launch successes and failures of the various versions of the Soyuz rocket over time.
    According to his count, since 1966, there have been 1,209 launches of nine variants of the Soyuz rocket on both orbital and suborbital missions of which 37 failed to reach orbit or to reach the correct orbit. That yields a 97 percent success rate.
    The Soyuz FG, used to launch crews to the International Space Station, has a 100 percent success rate since 2001 according to his statistics. By comparison, the Soyuz U, which failed in launching Progress M-12M, has had 20 failures in 761 launch attempts since 1973 based on his numbers. That translates to a 97.4 percent success rate.}

    3% failure rate sure is ‘miserable record of failures’. , isn’t it?

    Russia has an estimated 1,800 strategic nuclear warheads (out of a total 7,700 warheads).
    The yields on Russian ICBM MIRVs range from 500 kilotons to 3 megatons.
    The Tsar Bomba yielded 50 megatons.
    It is probably too heavy for an ICBM, but Russia’s Tu-160 strategic bomber can carry something similar, maybe 10-20 megatons, if Russia decides to go there and build Prince Bombas. (Tsar Bomba was carried and dropped by a Tu-95 bomber).
    Hiroshima bomb was about 15 kilotons.
    Nagasaki bomb was about 20 kilotons.

    So, even if 50% of Russian ICMB launches succeeded, US mainland would be on the receiving end of several hundred nuclear warheads. Plus, Russia would launch nuke tipped cruise missiles from standoff Tu-95s.

    And as others have already pointed out, your post deliberately twists Karlin’s article to imply that Russia is the aggressor.
    Karlin is clear that Russia is letting the Neocons know that if they attack Russia directly – as they have done to dozens of defenseless countries – oceans will not save them from being vaporized. Hopefully saner and cooler heads at the Pentagon – real patriots – will not let the Neocon infested US civilians leadership take that fatal step, but one never knows.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  70. Sam Shama says:
    @Regnum Nostrum

    The alarming incidence of cancer clusters, particularly in children, speak to a high likelihood of nuclear contamination. Whether mushroom clouds are possible with other explosions is less important than explaining the cancers and the rigor mortis in birds. I don’t think you can explain these things away with a wave of the hand.

    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
  71. AmericanaCON [AKA "Jodie Carson"] says:
    @Philip Owen

    Dude, did you sleep through comparative economics classes in college? Do you really believe that India is a wealthier and have higher technologically than Switzerland? When you compare countries on a basic level you use relatively numbers in relation to population. The GDP (per capita) in Sweden is 49,866 US dollar per capita (11th highest in the world) and their PPP (per capita) is 47,922 US dollars (15th highest in the world) according to IMF statistics from 2015. The same statistics show that Italy’s GDP (per capita) is 29,867 US dollar (31th highest in the world) and it’s PPP (per capita) is 35,708 US dollar (25th highest in the world).

    The Swedish GDP (per capita) is comparable to Australia, Singapore and Denmark while its PPP (per capita) is comparable to Australia, Austria and Germany. The Italian GDP (per capita) is comparable to Japan, Kuwait and Brunei. Its PPP (per capita) is comparable to New Zealand, Spain and Israel. Let’s compare that to Russia. The Russian GDP (per capita) 9,055 US dollar (65th highest) and its PPP (per capita) is 25,411 US dollar (48th highest) according to the same statistics used above. The Russian GDP (per capita) is comparable to Mexico, Turkey and Romania. The Russian PPP (per capita) is comparable to Greece, Hungary and Latvia.

    Sweden is one of the leading countries in Western Europe (the big league) when it comes to technology, high-tech manufacturing and services. Italy is in the lower tier in Western Europe (using Cold War definition). However, Italy is significantly wealthier and technological sound country compare to the rest of the world including Eastern Europe (again the Cold War definition). Both Sweden and Italy are first world nations. Russia is a second world nation. So how does it translate to military?

    In 2014 Italy shipped arms for 786 million dollars (9th in real numbers) and Sweden shipped arms for 394 million dollars (12th in real numbers). Russia shipped arms for 5971 (2th in real numbers). The Swedish population is 9.6 million and the Italian population is 59.8 million. The Russian population is considerably larger with 143.5 million. Sweden is the home of Volvo, Saab, Hagglunds, Kockums and FMV. Italy is the home of Leonardo-Finmeccanica, Fincantieri and Iveco. What do you think they produce?

    Small arms they ship to third world countries? They produce high-end heavy military products including submarines and fighter jets. Little insignificant Sweden develop and produce JAS Gripen, Visby Corvettes, Combat Boat 90, Gotland Submarine Class, Combat Vehicle 90 and Archer Artillery. Sweden is also a leading nation in develop and producing man-portable anti-tank missile launchers. Italy develops and produces a myriad of system such as Ariete, Centauro, Dardo, Skyguard Aspide, 202-class submarine and even aircraft carriers. Both Sweden and Italy has the technology do develop nuclear arms intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    Russian military technology is sophisticated in relation to second world countries and even some first world nations. Russian is a dedicated nation when it comes to military spending. According to SIPRI Milex index data (1988-2015) you find that 5.4 percent of the Russian GDP is military expenditure in 2015. The Russian government dedicated 13.7 percent of their government budget (revenue) on military spending the same year. The Russian government revenue was 428,600 million US dollar in 2014.

    The Italian military expenditure is 1.3 of the GDP in 2015. Italian government dedicated 2.6 percent of their budget on the military the same year. The Italian government budget (revenue) was of their 990,000 million US dollar. In Sweden the share of military expenditure in relation to the GDP was 1.1 percent in 2015. The same year Swedish government budget (revenue) was 2.2 percent. The Swedish budget (revenue) was 291,000 million US dollar.


    What does all this tell us? Sweden and Italy are significantly wealthier than Russia. However, they are not as dedicated as Russia to the military and warfare. It is for good reason. The Swedish empire ended in 1721. The last time Sweden was involved in an armed conflict was 1814. Later endeavors have been as members of ISAF and United Nations after WW2. It has been “peace keeping” missions if not including The Libyan intervention in 2011.

    There is simply no need for an expansive military in Sweden because there is really no threat. The Swedish elites bash Russia but that is for political reasons and nothing else. Italy has been involved in war after the WW2 as members of NATO. Naturally, they are more dedicated to their military than Sweden. Sweden is (at least on paper) neutral just as Switzerland. Hence, never mind the arms sales and their political elite constant political dedication (not to be confused with giving military support) to the warmongers in Brussels, London and Washington. It is just a show.

    Italy is not “neutral”. However they are not dedicated to warfare just like most European countries they spend their time talking but there is no action. In the Afghanistan war Italy sent initially a few hundred troops and later around 3000 when the United States had “cleaned house”. It was symbolic move from Italy because the Italian voters do not like to see their own get killed for “Liberal Democracy”. Sweden sent a few hundred troops a few years later for “peace keeping” missions and advisory duties. Military expenditure in Sweden and Italy is about developing and selling arms not about defending their borders. The arms they are produce are like Apple products. Fairly expensive high-tech stuff which third world dictator buy in small quantities to show their friends.

    Russia is a different kind of animal. They build to defend their country from the insane neo-conservatives in Washington who dream of war. Understand; The European Union is not dedicated to fight wars. They are not even dedicated to protect their own borders from unarmed so called “refugees”. The European Union came about so the Western European elites could make more money. For the elites in Western Europe war is just a racket while it is about survival for Russia. However, it does not mean that Sweden and Italy cannot produce advanced products for warfare. They do but not in the same extent as Russia as there is no market for it. So, we wouldn’t like to build stuff we cannot sell? Would we?

  72. anna,

    Yes, I agree that the Neo-cons should not be in charge. Although Russia was only something like “threat nr3” or even “nr 5” on their list.

    The principles set out in Trump’s foreign policy speech seem common sense (assuming America can still negotiate from the “position of strength”, which I believe it can).

  73. @Latvian woman

    when your potential enemy install radars powerful enough and have a range thousands of kilometers right on your door step, and have bases close to your borders, if russia doesn’t respond in kind, putin might just as well pull his pants down and bend over.

    just like the rest of europe. europe did it wellingly I might add 🙂 of course after ww2, they didn’t have much of a choice.

  74. anna,

    Let’s be honest – Russia has its own share of messianics. Dugin is just one of them, I’m sure, there are more higher up on the totem pole. Not to even mention the “big brother” syndrome. It’s normal for a big country.

    I don’t see why NATO can’t move troops within its own territory. As I said, during the exercises it is mostly local troops + Western Euros with very few Americans. The four battalions includes the Baltics and POLAND which is a huge country. This is 4000 men we’re talking altogether. They won’t all be American by far. This is just in response to all the Zapad training and the constant Russian planes flying nearby. Also, the US (and Germany) can’t just tell Poland to do things, without showing it’s going to hold to its end of the bargain. Yet this is very, very far from “marching to Moscow”.

    Regarding ME, I agree, it was crazy (we all know it was bad policy, profiteering, “defense of Israel”, etc, all these things that can be talked about endlessly). Trump has already admitted that, I agree with his foreign policy speech outline.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @annamaria
  75. @Anatoly Karlin

    Mr Karlin:

    Sr, be advised that no such thing as Judeo-Christian’ values exist.

    Judeans/Talmudists have their own values, and ‘small remnant’ Christian values are in total contradiction.

    Talmudism Reigns in Hollywood/war mongering DC (district of criminals). Christian Values are almost extinct, save some small town USA areas.

    thank you

    • Replies: @utu
  76. Avery says:
    @Latvian woman

    {This is just in response to all the Zapad training and the constant Russian planes flying nearby. Also, the US (and Germany) can’t just tell Poland to do things, without showing it’s going to hold to its end of the bargain. Yet this is very, very far from “marching to Moscow”.}

    [Blame game: NATO expanded to Russia, or Russia moved towards NATO?]

    State Dept liar lying as usual.
    NATO is a “defensive” alliance in name only: what do we call NATO illegally bombing Yugoslavia, for example?
    NATO is a tool for US Neocon imperialists, and stupid little countries like Latvia are painting a target on their 2 million and declining population by joining NATO. In a limited war in Europe, Latvia and all the other NATOlettes will be hit with tactical nukes, and it’s goodnight.
    US will not risk mutual annihilation with Russia for any country in Europe, save maybe England.

    btw: when idiot (or agent) Gorbachev agreed to dismantle the Warsaw pact with no bloodshed, US promised NATO would not expand East one foot. Not only it did, but they are at the very doorstep of Russia now. Gorbachev is an idiot (or agent) because he did it without receiving anything firm in return, other than a “promise”.

  77. @Regnum Nostrum

    I want to trust you. I want to believe you. So please give some assuring facts. Prove yourself that you are capable to earn my trust.

    • Replies: @Regnum Nostrum
  78. utu says:
    @in the middle

    “no such thing as Judeo-Christian’ values exist” – absolutely correct. This term was introduced on purpose to weaken the immune response of Western Civilization while it being infected and taken over by the Jewish Civilization. The process is pretty much completed.

  79. Speaking of “encirclement” – what about Japan that has hosted US troops since whenever? What about Turkey or Qatar? Norway has a border with Russia and has been in NATO forever – why isn’t Russia bashing Norway?

    Does “encirclement” equal “invasion”? I really would like to find any proof / reason / motivation on WHY the US would have to invade Russia. NATO hasn’t even done anything about Ukraine (these news of deployments are very recent plus Ukraine has received like zero help from the West). Putin said just today that Crimea will remain Russian forever, so there’s that (btw, Putin is right that “NATO sailors are cool guys but they shouldn’t be stationed in Crimea”, I just didn’t notice that Ukraine was going to agree to station any of them there).

    I’m not defending US or NATO here, I’m asking for motivation (or even casus belli). “Putin is an evil dictator”?? Please, that one’s not gonna fly with the American public.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    , @L.K
  80. Avery – ah, Russian threats on our livelihood. What else is new? It’s not like we haven’t been hearing those for the past 20 years.

    Read what I posted above regarding any attack on the Baltics – it will be mostly ethnic Russians that will suffer.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Avery
  81. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A war between Russia and the west will bring the west to it’s collective knees. I doubt Russia would sustain 1% of the death and destruction as would the West. At times I question Putin’s resolve. His moves in Syria were decisive, but far from an absolute message to the west to get out of the middle east – NOW. Where it goes now is anyone’s guess, all I see is dissembling and posturing.

    • Replies: @Poles never learn
  82. Catiline says:

    Very nice comment Jodie. Since you seem so well informed could you possibly explain why Italy doesn’t participate in EADS/Airbus? It can’t be a technical reason. Is there a poltical angle to this?

  83. koolz says:

    Holy shit are you disinfo agent!

    I want you to learn real history here

    And I want you to learn who they are here

    My last post.

  84. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:
    @Max Havelaar

    JFK was a war criminal….now fuck off JFK worshipper…..

  85. annamaria says:
    @Latvian woman

    “I don’t see why NATO can’t move troops within its own territory.”

    Interesting… The discussion is about the gradual encircling of RF by the US-subjugated NATO as well as about the incessant NATO’ provocations on the RF borders.

    In my previous posts, there were quotes by the honest and highly informed US analysts that like all sane people see the growing danger coming from NATO’ (actually from the US)’ provocations against RF. I am reluctant to post these warning quotes for the third time. I also noticed that some other Unz readers have been trying to explain you the problem. A hint: the problem is not about “POLAND” being “a huge country” or “4000 men we’re talking altogether.”

  86. But why? Please, don’t say fertile land and oil, because the US has those and more than it needs itself. Please, don’t say stuff like “neocons are crazy Zionist wackos”… etc. They are but… where is the real motivation? Lockheed Martin profits? Is that it ?

    If one posts a picture of a burning US city, we could at least maybe expect an explanation of why the US / NATO would physically attack or invade Russia… knowing that nukes are pointing in each direction… and how do you sell that invasion to the US / Western public.

  87. Kiza says:

    I hope most people understand now why the Anglo-Zionist Borg wants “democracy” everywhere:
    1) because the Anglo-Zionist Borg has perfected such quasi-democratic method of control of the population over the last couple of hundred years, and
    2) because its franchising model, that is its autonomous remote method of control of countries can be applied under the “Western model of democracy”.

    Do they really need to occupy countries and then maintain extra expensive military garrisons in the occupied lands? Instead, they bring-down governments via Facebook and by channeling freshly printed greenbacks to potential local franchisees (for example, Ukranian Nazis)? The successful local franchisee then occupies his own country on behalf of the Borg and pays tribute/franchisee-fee to the Borg. There is usually a Borg’s representative somewhere, a viceroy, who smashes the local heads together if they waver from the path set by the AngloZionist Borg and threatens them with replacement at the next election.

    One interesting aspect is that if some franchisee is replaced in power, that is a new political party replaces the previous party, the new franchisee is not allowed to put in jail the old franchisee, just like Obama did not let anyone touch George W. Bush. Therefore, the franchisees are guaranteed physical security, they can only lose power if they do not do the best job. In other words, once a non-pliant nationalistic government is violently replaced using a color revolution, the transition between servants is always smooth and non-violent. The previous party goes into opposition to be a threat to and to maintain the quality service by the new party (Compradorial group) now in power.

    Ain’t the Western model of democracy grand? This model of franchised democratic power for the societal control is the most cost-effective method of occupation one ever invented. For the current level of human development, it is the only possible model for global control – the only way to create the first global empire in human history (forget about Roman Empire, it did not cover even all of Europe or Africa). With a center in Tel Aviv, through the hub of Washington, franchised democratic power model can rule all continents of the World.

    I would admire this model as an achievement in social engineering, if the US was not pushed so catastrophically deep into debt to pay for this, which could collapse the Borg. If the Borg does not manage to bring down the governments of Russia and China soon, it could lose the reserve currency status for its fiat currency US\$, used to finance these regime-changing wars and color revolutions. The Borg MUST apply this model to Russia and China as well, after dividing them into smaller more manageable chunky-democracies, or the Borg will not be able to survive itself and is likely to bow out in global nuclear fireworks.

    • Replies: @edNels
  88. “……I hope is a growing realization that this folly has to be immediately stopped and that sanity must return to politics.”
    Just look at the 2016 Presidential process to date. Sanity is nowhere to be found.

  89. rod1963 says:
    @Latvian woman

    You haven’t been paying attention lady.

    We almost declared war on Russia over Syria when Al-Nusra(or one of other terror groups we supported in Syria) released Sarin Nerve Gas and we blamed the Assad regime. Russia responded to initial American moves by moving the Black Sea fleet off the Syrian coast.

    The U.S. moved the 7th fleet within shooting distance or what passes for it.

    Obama went to Congress to get a declration of War against Syria and Russia.

    Cameron did the same, going before Parliament for approval as well.

    Both soundly denied Obama and Cameron’s requests.

    But that’s how close we came. We were prepared to sink the Russian navy and destroy Syria.

    So please don’t play ignorant.

    There are forces in America who want war very badly, groups composed of very crazy and bad people who are the architects of the destruction of Libya, the civil war in Syria and the over throw of Mubarack in Egypt. And they want Putin out of the way.

    They will use any pretext for declaring war. Why do you think Russia has bent over backwards to accommodate the U.S. ?

  90. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:

    I would admire this model as an achievement in social engineering, if the US was not pushed so catastrophically deep into debt to pay for this, which could collapse the Borg.
    if the US was not pushed so catastrophically deep into debt to pay for this, which could collapse the Borg.
    catastrophically deep into debt to pay for this,
    No we will figure it out…!

  91. Avery says:
    @Latvian woman

    Aaaaah, indeed.

    First off, I am not Russian.
    I am American (of Armenian descent).
    I don’t care what happens to Latvia: I care what happens to America.
    If global nuclear war breaks out between US and Russia, myself, my family, my friends, my neighbors will be very much affected here in Los Angeles.

    And Latvia is one of those countries which Neocon Svengalis have recruited in their slow-motion offensive against Russia. Countries like Latvia, who sell themselves to NATO, are contributing to the destabilization of the region, and are helping NATO warmongers.

    Russia is not going to invade Latvia: what for ?
    What’s there in Latvia that Russia needs? Nothing.
    But if NATO launches hot attacks against Russia, then any NATO member is legitimate target.

    As to the threats to your livelihood: look within yourselves.
    If trends continue, Latvia will not be Latvia for long: it will disappear without anyone firing a shot.

    If you look at the chart, you can see ethnic Latvian population started going down, down, down after 2,000. Latvia is hemorrhaging young Latvians, who are moving to other EU countries for better opportunities. So you see: Russia is not the threat to Latvia’s livelihood.
    EU and NATO are.

    But you Russophobes are too blinded with your hatred of Russia and Russians to see it.

  92. Kiza says:

    Well, maybe the Saker is pro-Russian, but there is nothing wrong with that since the Western MSM propaganda dominates the airwaves and even the Internet in the Western countries. If one wants to read alternative points of views, under the old Roman audiatur et altera pars, listen to both sides before you make up your mind, one must read Saker because it is one of the few alternatives to Western brainwashing.

    The way you laugh at what you call the Russian propaganda, I laugh at people who believe even one word of dumb, dumber, dumbest Western propaganda. At least Saker has points that one can agree or disagree with, and I personally disagree with many of his points. But one can argue about them. The Western propaganda, opposite to that, is exclusively for people who do not want to use their own heads then need their opinions delivered to them though media. There is not even one point in the Western propaganda that one can argue about, it is so f’ing dumb.

    Personally, I do not believe that Saker is paid by the Russians, I believe that he found a niche for an intelligent discussion of political, social and military matters which disappeared in the West after the huge amounts of money have been dedicated to countering “the Russian propaganda”. It appears that the more money the West spends, the dumber its propaganda, and now we are talking about a trillion dollar budget over the next 10 years “to counter RT”.

    Finally, my main gripe with Saker is that, although he is an excellent analyst, he gets carried away by his knowledge of the Russian military and his previous military training. It has been said 1,000,000 times already – the West will attack Russia neither frontally with conventional military force nor by the First Nuclear Strike, because the cost of either would be unbearable to the fragile Western grip over its own population. The only attack possible is the one going on already – economic sanctions plus the depression of the price of the Russian exports (both sides of the ledger), combined with constant military pressure to increase Russia’s military budget. One of you made a very, very stupid comment that wars never start accidentally. They do not start accidentally as much as the death of one man could not lead to WW1.

    If you guys are paid Western propagandists as much as Saker and zerohedge are Russian propaganda, then you are not very intelligent just like your sides whole propaganda. It appears that a trillion dollars do not buy you much brain power these days.

  93. @AmericanaCON

    I wonder about a couple of things:

    1) How much money Mikael Skillt and his brother Swedish neo-Nazis who went to fight in Donbass under the SS Das Reich runes of the Azov Battalion received from slush funds run by Carl Bildt, or the ‘Gladio’ money that pays European volunteers fighting in Ukraine considerably more than the 120 euros a month equivalent in hyrvnia local that the receive in official volunteer battalion salaries from broke ass Kiev.

    2) How much of the Swedish military build up will involve humoring NATO with everything but joining while the Swedish generals, much like the Bundeswehr ones, cleverly use the idea of drilling to fight ‘little green men’ infiltrators as cover for ‘kebab removal’ practice. eg crushing civil unrest in predominantly Muslim areas. I guess the weapons loadout will tell us when Sweden says it’s ready to fight a Russian invasion while ordering tear gas, MRAPs and sound cannons.

    • Replies: @AmericanaCON
  94. @Anonymous

    The problem with the West is that in cannot be trusted by Russia anymore and therefore we cannot left it safe in our backyard. Globalization not only makes military threats too close to our borders, it also makes no nation and no culture indispensable. That means, a century ago a Russian would think “yes we can burn Paris and kill all the Frenchmen, but we will miss them, their foi gras and Eiffel Tower”. Today we have it at home, or digitally, or can erect any David and paint any Mona Lisa with printing anywhere anytime. So, today we have no more reasons to spare Westerners anymore, and they should be fully aware of it. Next WW would lead not to enslavement or conquest of the West by Russians, but to direct annihilation. I pity the dumb rustic Latvians and Estonians, who rock the boat so eagerly. No more soviet socialist republics for you, my little slowpokes. All NATO worshippers to be recycled.

  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Grate Deign

    The Jews don’t control Europe or the US, only the levers of power. Finance, media, politics, etc etc. Part of getting full control, like the Jews had in Weimar Germany, is to divide and conquer your foes into total submission.

    This can only be accomplished by large wars that will kill off the resistance and bankrupt the populace making them easy to control.

  96. @Regnum Nostrum

    I hope he doesn’t waste time answering you. What a stupid crank you be.

  97. Kiza says:

    Here is a report from zerohedge, which you guys call the “Russian propaganda”. If you want to know what your 1%-ers are doing, allegedly Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew and so on visited Epstein’s island for orgies with under-age girls:

    I wonder if they all talk the same talk of working hard for the tax-payers to open up more jobs (for underage girls, I guess).

  98. @Iliyana_Rozumova

    Trust is a long time affair. One cannot trust someone after a few statements or a few days. Only a long track record confirmed by unfolding events can establish trust.

  99. @Sam Shama

    Rigor mortis occurs no matter how you die. It is not instantaneous and it is not dependent on a nuclear explosion. As far as the increased incidence of cancer is concerned it can have many causes. I am not familiar with the particular cases and cannot provide more detailed answer.

  100. Why, of course, there are “bad” people on the US political scene. And I wasn’t talking about proxy wars, but a direct attack on the Russian soil.

    • Replies: @rod1963
  101. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Most likely neutron type explosives with deflectors pointing straight up were planted in the basements. This turned the 1 acre 4″ thick floors into dust.

  102. Avery says:
    @Latvian woman

    Map of Europe before WW2

    As you can see Latvia is not part of USSR before WW2.
    And you also know Latvia helped Nazi Germany wage war against USSR.
    Latvians to this day celebrate and glorify their Waffen-SS legion.
    War criminals and murderers who murdered Soviet citizens.
    Latvians also enthusiastically participated in the mass murder of Jews in Latvia: about 60,000 were murdered.

    USSR lost 25-27 million people as a result of criminal, genocidal Nazi invasion.
    About 10 millions civilians were murdered by the invaders and their puppets.
    Had Nazis defeated USSR, every last Slav would have been exterminated or worked to death by Nazi invaders and their puppets.

    Yes, Stalin invaded Latvia and forcibly incorporated it in USSR after WW2.
    Well, that’s usually what happens when you attack someone and lose: Latvia participated in the war of aggression against USSR. And now the cycle is repeating again with NATO: Latvia enthusiastically allowing itself to be used as canon fodder by NATO.
    But Latvian neo-Nazi revisionists develop convenient amnesia about their role in WW2, and only remember what happened after 1945.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @L.K
  103. Che Guava says:

    They are also amnesiac about their role in the Bolshevik coup d’etat, although the Lithuanian Rifles played a more important role, Latvian units were also there.

    Horrors of historical irony!

  104. From what Ive observed, if nato starts a war(and it would be nato starting it) Russia will route Nato.

    Russia will control the air with the new s-400 and s-500 missiles coming on line. And their fighters appear to be better.

    In any event, there will be millions killed in europe.

  105. bluedog says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Boy are you a sicko with the JFK hatred why one would almost think you were a Lodge or related to them.!!!

  106. Sam Shama says:

    Avery, to your last paragraph, I am almost certain that there are real and strong undercurrents of vanishing support for neo-connish agenda in the jewish community in the U.S. [not that there was much to begin with, the community being passive cheque issuers] starting with a growing distatste for the activities of AIPAC. Even in Israel where right-wing sentiments have been dominant for the last 5 years+, a sense of reversal is quite palpable, with many mid to higher idf personnel openly voicing their disdain and reluctance to support Netanyahu. Netanyahu’s recent move to capitulate to Lieberman is a sign of desperation. The larger populace in America on account of history and geography are pitifully ignorant of the constant provocations that Russia absorbs from NATO, which makes me queasy and wish for better education of Americans at large, to the real [but probabilistically small, since Putin is very very rational] catastrophic danger.

  107. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:


    Different counties..Kennedy Clan from Mayo….My clan from Westmeath and Kerry(Kilarney)…

  108. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It seems far-fetched that US-NATO would try to pull a Napoleon. The days of massed armies marching in appear to be over. Now they try to subvert target countries and engage in economic warfare to weaken them. They are trying to encircle the Russians and hem them in so that they can’t do anything beyond their borders. This way the US-NATO can continue their pattern of going around the world attacking countries but this time preventing the Russians from aiding them. They weren’t happy about the assistance given Syria and therefore want to prevent that from happening in the future. Most countries can’t resist the power of the US and it’s allies without some help just like Vietnam needed Soviet weapons to fight off the Americans. All this forward basing of US weapons in other people’s countries shows the cynical nature of US policy, using other people as cannon fodder and being willing to see them ruined with no concern about it.

  109. L.K says:


    No, you dumb idiot, Latvia was invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Empire in 1940, i.e, BEFORE the German-Soviet war started in June of 41.

    The rest of your ridiculous post is just that; a collection of lies and distortions, a mickey mouse wwii narrative, or, as J.Revusky says, a comic book Roger Rabitt narrative, which does not survive the most basic scrutiny.

    The one at fault for the Soviet losses during WWII and for the German attack of june 1941 was the Soviet regime itself… it manouvered the country into war with Germany in almost any way possible. This is well documented, just not well known.

    You really are a cynical liar and hypocrite who feigns great hurt for millions of Soviet citizens – slavs or otherwise – who perished in the war against Germany while completely ignoring the 15-25 million Soviet people who were executed or perished because of Stalin’s policies, BEFORE, during and after the war.

  110. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The US collapsed in 2008; you just don’t seem to have noticed. Have you been in the US lately? What else would you call the current situation in the US if not “collapse?”

  111. L.K says:
    @Latvian woman

    Latvian woman,

    I can understand Latvia’s past grievances re Russian/Soviet imperialism.

    However, those days seem to be in the past. For example, Russia could have taken Georgia back into the R.F, after it quickly defeated them back in 08. It did not.

    Zamerican/Nato(nato is a tool US empire) encirclement of Russia, ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, is a FACT.
    This is a threat to Russian security.

    Imagine, for a second, ZUSA’s reaction if a powerfully led Russian military alliance established bases in Mexico and Canada. Then picture a Texas(Ukraine), having separated from the Union, also being courted and destabilized by Russia to join this military alliance.

    Impossible to even imagine it, right?

    Latvia sould not be a NATO member. ZUSA does not care about you. If war comes, you’ll be the first to burn. In fact, Nato should not exist.
    Zamerica is a threat to Latvia, which is now a US vassal state, and to all of Europe.

    Don’t be their useful idiots, useful idiots end up badly. Think the Ukraine nowdays, or Poland, of WWII fame.

  112. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Grate Deign

    “There was, to be sure, one thing that many of even the
    most passionately committed American Zionists were reluctant to do, and that was
    to face up to the fact that continued American support for Israel depended upon
    continued American involvement in international affairs– from which it
    followed that an American withdrawal into the kind of isolationist mood
    that prevailed most recently between the two world wars, and that now looked as
    though it might soon prevail again, represented a direct threat to the security
    of Israel. “. Norman
    Podhoretz, neocon godfather, writing about the centralness of Israel, in Breaking Ranks (1979):

    “One major factor that drew [the first-generation neo-cons] inexorably to the right was their attachment to Israel and their growing frustration during the 1960s with a Democratic party that was becoming increasingly opposed to American military preparedness and increasingly enamored of Third World causes [e.g., Palestinian rights]. In the Reaganite right’s hard-line anti-communism, commitment to American military strength, and willingness to intervene politically and militarily in the affairs of other nations to promote democratic values (and American interests), neocons found a political movement that would guarantee Israel’s security.” (Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace (1993), p. 231)

  113. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Grate Deign

    Irving Kristol, reacted to Vietnam War critic Senator George McGovern. The presidential contender’s proposed cut in U.S. military expenditure would, according to the “godfather” of neoconservatism, “drive a knife in the heart of Israel.”

    “Jews don’t like big military budgets,” the elder Kristol explained in a Jewish publication in 1973. “But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States … American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”’s-wars/

    • Replies: @annamaria
  114. Avery, your text is so stereotypically dull, and of course you derail from the main question.

    Latvia has seen a slight uptick in births over the last few years and it’s population is the same size as it was before the WW2, right now it’s fertility quotient is average for EU and higher than Germany’s, same for Estonia, some of the loss of population was largely due to the Russian army families and other Russians who decided to leave after the fall of the USSR. Many of the current emigres are also Russian (whenever you read those “population bleeding” articles on RT remember that more Russians leave than Latvians – not saying it’s good, just facts, they’re not as attached here). The proportion of Latvian speakers is increasing, the volume of media in Latvian is increasing, it’s getting back to how it was pre WW2 and more, many of the young people that are abroad are planning to return (I have personal accounts, some of them are just working abroad temporarily because they are building a family house back home or paying off a mortgage, many of them will return, they will not be like Armenians, 80% of who are scattered across the globe – sorry, all due respect, but I had to say that because you attacked me first). Don’t tell me young Russians haven’t emigrated from Russia over the last 20 years, they have left in droves, every American or Germany city has young Russians walking around, chatting in Russian, Russians stores all over the place. Hey, even American boonies are full of Russians and Ukrainians. Contrary to Latvians who just used the free movement within the EU legally, these Russians had to apply for refugee visas (how screwed is that?). How is that any better? We are talking about general trends in EE that are universal to every country, incl Russia (with the exception of maybe Belarus). I wouldn’t be surprised to see more waves of emigration from Russia due to the sanctions and the fall of the rouble. I just spoke to a Russian guy from a small town in Russia and he told me small businesses are shutting down left and right, except Medvedev is building a huge auto park near Moscow. Many Russian intellectuals have come to live in the Baltics (call them the5th column all you want, but they have left Russia, Artem Troitsky lives in Estonia now). I’m not saying all of this is good or makes me happy, as I don’t like seeing Slavic people suffer, but don’t point out general EE trends and apply them to one country that you don’t like – these trends cover EVERYONE and soon there will be a major problem due to the low births of the 1990s in ALL EE countries, including Russia.

    Latvia is not baiting anyone. It’s funny how you call us puppets of the US but then give us agency and put responsibility on just us. Why don’t you spew the same attacks against a country like Norway for instance, that has been in NATO forever, has a border with Russia and has participated in every US led coalition. See above, about Jens Stoltenberg who is Norwegian. Norway had a REAL Nazi government led by a Norwegian, while Latvia was an occupied country when its men were enlisted in the German army, you don’t know enough what happened to the people who lived here during two invasions to judge them. What about the Benelux – why don’t you hold them accountable? How come you tolerate the Japanese who have stationed US bases forever? Iceland just removed the US bases just a few years ago. Were they threatening anybody? Were those countries causing WW3?

    You throw russophobic around like the Jews throw around antisemitic / racist which is bs. I didn’t know questioning things is now russo or any phobic.

    Why do you assume I am afraid of a Russian invasion? I’m not. I already told what would happen to ethnic Russians in case of a Russian invasion – they would be killed by their own “paternal” government.

    All I asked was WHY everyone on this site believes that the US / NATO/ EE countries are going to attack Russia proper? I haven’t received a single rational answer. I’m not asking about the control over the Middle East. It would be idiotic not to see the geopolitical strife that has recently escalated and it would be crazy not to pray for de-escalation, but I’m asking about the real motives. That the neocons wanted to change the Putin regime, that’s clear. To get access to the contracts, etc. To preach human rights as a pretext, bla bla bla, that’s clear. Well, they didn’t get that and now it’s the new reality they have to live with. But why would NATO / US waste their manpower to to actually physically intrude in Russia?

  115. Good short story and lots of truth. Vote for TRUMP to bring peace and PROSPERITY to the CITIZENS of the USA. Let the EU die on the vine they did it to themselves by over immigration from low IQ places , so now they want the Russians to blame for their stupid mistakes.

    The zion bunch need to KNOW that they are on the first strike list and will NOT be around to rule anything when the nukes are done, sooner or later the Russians will have to deal with the Isralies nukes and ALL.

  116. annamaria says:

    “…it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States … American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”

    Two aspects:
    1. Never Again – total betrayal of a post-WWII claim on moral uprightness of the “chosen”
    2. Loyalty – using the USA as a host by the ziocon parasitoid (Israel-firsters) to protect and feed Israel. See also the ruined Iraq, Libya, and Syria.

    A backlash is inevitable.

  117. Also, let’s assume there IS a proxy war in Ukraine. First, you’d have to deal with Ukraine (Western Ukraine is our big buffer and there is no way Russians can occupy the whole of Ukraine, you’d have to wipe out every single one of them now) and Putin has shown clearly that he doesn’t want to deal with Ukraine. He got what he wanted and that’s it. The DNR are still sitting in their bunker waiting for God knows what. What are they now? They’re a nobody. They are people who nobody cares about! Not the West, not Putin. Ok, you tore up Ukraine, got Crimea, freeze the conflict and you can live the next 30 years in peace (knowing that Ukraine will not be in the dreaded EU). But what happens to the people and their status. They become something in between – neither Ukrainian, nor Russian citizens. Not to even mention the human and infrastructure losses. Here’s a war in front of your eyes, with real Russian people suffering, partly run by Russia and you worry about some US apocalypse.

    This is where the Russian power extends to. And NATO sees that, they’re not even sending Ukraine any weapons, that means neither party is even interested in “taking” Eastern or Western Ukraine. Where do you see potential for a conventional war there? And even if there was, it would be a proxy war, not a war on Russian soil which, the way Saker describes above, would threaten Russian existence.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  118. LK, we don’t have the luxury of neutrality. It didn’t work at all the last time. Due to the geographical location we are bound to suffer either way in case of a big calamity in Europe. They hate us so much that they would strike us even if we were not Nato. Have you heard the crazy blabber from Dugin where he says things like “Finland should be re-joined with Russia”? I know, it’s funny, but there is some truth to it. But do you think I’m so dumb to believe that the US “cares” about us? Ofc, not. But for us appeasement hasn’t worked. Sorry, but for every action (Crimea) there is a reaction. It’s like Lenin said – you poke with the rifle and test where it is soft and where it gets hard. Russia is very much about that. Listen to Dugin. It might sound funny at first, but there is some truth there. He says “Russia is simple, it doesn’t really need any of those neighbors, but if land is just laying there (unprotected) Russia will take it” – as in, just for the sake of it.

    I respect Putin, but what happened in East Ukraine is a very big tragedy (first and foremost, for the Russians in Ukraine). And you can’t just blame some Nuland for it.

    If there is another huge financial crisis (which is likely) and all hell breaks loose in the US and the EU is sinking in refugees and political instability, Russia might want to poke around a bit. That is absolutely not excluded. Maybe not probable, but definitely possible.

    And I find it a little dishonest to jump on Latvia’s (and Poland’s) back when all these other countries like Turkey, Japan, Norway, Iceland, etc., have been “encircling” Russia for decades.

    I personally believe there should be a completely new defense / economic alliance in EE that would consist of the Visegrad group, the Baltics and Finland (and hopefully Western Ukraine and possibly Belarus).

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Poles never learn
  119. WildWind says:
    @Jim Christian

    There are no “nuclear warheads”. The “atomic bomb” is a hoax.
    The most complete information on this subject that I found:

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  120. And, Avery, it must be really nice and comfy sitting in LA and trashing countries who have legitimate issues with your favorite country, as well as your host country’s government while at the same time receiving all the benefits of living in the “Borg / Empire” such as a high living standard, federal subsidies, the benefits of debt and petro dollar, the stability that a big defense budget gives you and your family, money that’s flowing into your country due to the military escapades. Hey, don’t be surprised that in case you run a business some of your biggest customers are former officers / pilots or some Lockheed Martin millionaires.

    The nukes have been pointing in each others’ direction for decades so that one is already decided (where they will fly). Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Montenegro or even Armenia will have no say in whether they’re activated. The problem is there are two many weapons in the world and too many greedy folks.

    I’d be more worried about the giant quake if I were you. Just move to Idaho or back to Armenia. It’s funny, a person who has escaped his own country is lecturing me about our recent emigres… just wow.

  121. LK, Poland was never a “useful idiot”. It was a country in the middle of Europe that was invaded and overwhelmed by two criminal, totalitarian powers – one from the West, one from the East. Poland was attacked by two thugs at once and had no say over it. It was not some “useful idiot”. It was a victim of the criminality of two much bigger populations that went against it. This is nothing new and dates back to the middle ages. There is nothing Poland could’ve done in advance but to fight in both directions once it happened. Don’t lecture me about Ukraine and Poland and what those countries (which were victims) should have done while you are yourself sitting somewhere safe and would never be attacked by two thuggish bullies at once.

  122. @War for Blair Mountain

    Corporate controlled politics = fascism or leads to totalitarian states with forced labour camps (privatized prisons) for the 99% and a superrich elite.

    So Trump’s populist success is proof that the US is moving to National-socialist policies. All because of lack of democracy, bad economic policies impoverishing the middle class and abusing the US constitution.

  123. @War for Blair Mountain

    The source of International organized crime (a.o. CIA/Mossad/MI6) is, ofcourse, Washington/NY Wallstreet banks, already for at least 100 years [Smedley Butler: War is a Racket].

    US foreign policy = Nation Building(Ron Paul) = creating extremist dictatorships in the 3-rd world.

    So the House of Saud is merely a consequence of US Foreign Wallstreet policy. Not the source. If they would oppose the US consistently, they would be obliterated and replaced with other criminals.

    McCain, the Brookings institute and Obama (Assad must go) want an extremist IS-state in Syraq, to block economic development of the region. Israëls objective too.

    Further more, Brezinsky’s grand chessboard, ISIS allow the US to enhance Muslim extremism in Russa-China’s south belly. Putin and Lavrov realize this, and therefore, indeed thank fortruss, ISIS is Russia’s pre-emptive Stalingrad.

  124. rod1963 says:
    @Latvian woman

    That’s not a proxy war. When you attack a nation’s navy that is a act of war.

    The fact remains the political and military class in the U.S. and England want war and almost had it. Thankfully stopped by their respective Congress and Parliament.

  125. rod1963 says:
    @Latvian woman

    You realize all the people who ordered that war are dead?

    Or are you one of those people who simply need to blame the living who are innocent of those crimes because it suits your agenda like those insane Ukrainian thugs that worship Bandera even while foreigners rule their land?

    And unless you’re nearing 95 you have no direct experience with that. My mother who is still alive did experience both sides. It’s just something you read about.

    Yeah the Soviet occupation made life hell. But they don’t exist anymore either.

    And Poland is a useful idiot. Don’t think for second that the U.S. doesn’t bribe Polish officials to promote our agenda. This is a standard practice in our foreign policy. We have entire agencies and so-called private organizations that are used for this purpose.

  126. 5371 says:
    @Latvian woman

    [Poland was never a “useful idiot”]

    It certainly wasn’t useful.

    [It was a country in the middle of Europe]

    Which had recently been created with wholly inappropriate and unsustainable borders. Just like the “Ukraine” today.

  127. rod63, you assume very quickly that my own family has not been affected by WW2 or families of people I know who have a first hand experience with it. As a matter of fact, I recently spoke to a 92 year old Latvian woman whose brother was killed by a mine while serving as a cook in the Soviet army – trust me, she was still tearing up talking about it.

    And on the topic – you mention the Congress – that’s exactly what I said several times – the public opinion. It matters. The era of Jewish Neocon power is fading. You can’t talk the US / UK public into a war with Russia and you can’t pull a color revolution on the Russian population (mostly because unlike the Poles, Russian identity is not Western). And they can’t remove Putin from power. If Hillary wins, she might try to do something, but let’s see her try to justify it to the public.

    Poland is a very big pain in the butt for the US diplomats and the State Department, especially with the new government, and it’s always been such. What you and others here don’t want to accept is that EE populations are pluralistic and free.

    You only see the Bandera teeshirts, but you don’t see the millions of Ukrainians who are moderate, just want to speak Ukrainian and don’t want to be called “little brothers” all the time and be looked down on by another people who really isn’t all that much better than them.

    • Replies: @L.K
  128. @WildWind

    Well, DAMN! They fooled me. All those background checks just to be a nuke loader on A-6s back in the day were for NOTHING. Man, what a scam. I tell you, they put us to considerable trouble keeping a pair of A-6s “loaded” with Dial-A-Yields when we were East of Sicily, their SIOP mission being to reduce the Southern Soviet shipyards to a radioactive puddle on a one-way, no return trip. That’s not classified, by the way, common knowledge. A-6’s are de-commissioned, too, so no matter.

    Man, you just cannot trust the U.S. Navy. They kept the secret of no-nukes so WELL, too! Hundreds of guys had no idea! Shit! The dosimeters we had to wear, the Marines surrounding those weapons and planes when they were up on deck, all of it a facade, a sham.

    • Replies: @WildWind
  129. @L.K

    It’s also worth noting that the Soviet annexation of Lithuania, which per the Ribbentrop-Molotov protocols belonged to the German sphere of influence, represented an abrogation of the non-aggression pact well before Barbarossa. Combined with Soviet threats to the Romanian oil fields in Ploesti in the fall of 1940, the Germans had every reason to suspect Stalin’s intentions.

    • Replies: @Ed
  130. @Latvian woman

    Poland is a historically legitimate state of course, but inter-war it suffered from the same problems as artificial polyglot states like Czechoslovakia. It rebuffed reasonable offers regarding Danzig from the Germans (Hitler’s position was really no different from the Weimar governments), and their ruling junta flattered themselves with great power pretensions and foolishly trusted the treacherous British.

    • Replies: @L.K
  131. Lame Cherry says: • Website

    The reality is Ezekiel chapter 38 is after the return of Christ and the 1000 year reign, and has to do with Gog and Magog, who are unexplained definitively in Scripture, except one of the branches of the Japheth line, which Slavics are a part of.

    The Russian Paradigm has nothing to do with commodities America can purchase. This is what it always has been about is natural resources specific which global financial interests will to exploit for free. This is a conglomerate situation and not a nationalist situation.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  132. WildWind says:
    @Jim Christian

    Just read all the article.

    • Replies: @5371
  133. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The objective of war would not be to destroy Russia, but to destroy Western civilization and the current World Order. An milder version of that is facilitation of muslim influx into Europe. See the developments in that light and everything will begin to make sense.

  134. Avery says:

    No, you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™ are the real, actual dumb idiot.
    Your miserable s___head.

    All your posts are a collection of lies and distortions.
    You neo-Nazi revisionist scum, filth, sewer rats – are all the same – you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™.

    The victorious Red Army was too nice and forgiving towards you Nazi scum-sucking sewer Master Rats.

    You filthy, neo-Nazi mongrel pond scum.
    Like I wrote in another thread: at least I am an Armenian: a noble, ethnically consistent ethnos. How many breeds of mongrel dogs in your ancestry, you filthy, neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™.

    Or do you know, you filthy mongrel.POS™ , s____eating sewer rat.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
  135. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    The Western powers that be are prepared and ready for a nuclear war. They believe it survivable The have their fortified mountain hideouts. They have been buiding for this day. They believe they put the bear to sleep for 2 decades while our machine cranked on. Isreal will not survive this. By it’s location it is the first nation to go. Bottom line. No one speaks of Russian subs, very quiet. No one speaks of China. If this goes live the front line will be in the ionisphere, not on any border on this planet. We have secret weopons. Guess what? They do too. It will be interesting while it lasts. The vulture capitalists are circling.

  136. annamaria says:
    @Latvian woman

    “He got what he wanted and that’s it.”

    Do you imply that Putin had planned the coup d’etat in Kiev in order to bring Crimea back to Russian fold? If he had not, then what was the point of spending \$US billions on “democracy on the march” in Ukraine by the US? Again, you need to ponder a bit about the sorry fate of Libya and Syria which both are thousands miles away from the US. (Was it really a matter of defense to destroy these two prosperous states?) Besides it is rather naive to think that the US have any concern for the new tiny EE members of NATO, as well as the non-member Ukraine. Even the majority of US citizens, the “have nots” are of no concern for the DC deciders, considering the obscenity of the US “healthcare,” the scandalous prosperity of poisonous Monsanto, and the total immunity for financial and war-mongering criminals.

  137. AmericanaCON [AKA "JodieCarson(2)"] says:

    1) Well, I have no idea if the Swedish government pays Neo-Nazis to fight wars in Ukraine. I doubt it. The former Minister of Foreign affairs may be an infamous neo-conservative and warmonger but there was simply no reason for him to support a bunch of combat inexperienced Neo-Nazis so they can take part in the Ukrainian civil war. It would be my guess that the Neo-Nazis financed their time in Ukraine with symbolic salaries from the Ukrainian army. I also think the Swedish Neo-Nazis had jobs in Sweden. Even Neo-Nazis work for a living and It would be my guess that they used their savings and most likely rented out their houses or flats. You can come a long way in Ukraine on Swedish currency.

    2) I did not get your question. Sweden has recently taken steps to join NATO. A long process never the less. If they joint I doubt they will be military involved other than symbolic. The Swedish politicians have cut military spending drastically and abolished obligatory military service the last decades. As I wrote before, the Swedish government sees their defense as a business arm and not as a tool to defend the country. Military is by law not involved in fighting crime.

  138. L.K says:

    Yawwnnnn…. avery, the armenian insect, again forgot to take his meds b4 posting and it shows!

    I must have really rattled the poor bastard’s cage.

    ps 1: interesting that a guy so completely obsessed with bloodlines and being of a, buhahaha, consistent ethnos, has the cheek to lecture people about the 1930/40s NS racial views, real or alleged.

    ps 2: my ethnicities, Germans and Italians, have accomplished more than armenians could ever dream to.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Avery
  139. @Avery

    Tell us what you really think.

    • Replies: @Avery
  140. L.K says:
    @Latvian woman

    LatvianWoman to rod1963:

    “What you and others here don’t want to accept is that EE populations are pluralistic and free.”

    Buhahahahahaha….. that was a joke, right?? No? Free?

    “The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.”
    ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

  141. Avery says:

    {Yawwnnnn…. avery, the armenian insect..}

    Yawwnnnn yourself…you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™, sewer rat.
    Your miserable s___head.

    {ps 2: my ethnicities, Germans and Italians, have accomplished more than armenians could ever dream to.}

    You neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™.
    Armenian troops of USSR pissed on the ashes of your s____head mongrel sewer rat Hitler in Berlin. You neo-Nazi scum accomplished s__t. If you had, Red Army banner would not fly over your alleged “1,000 Reich, you s___h___”.

    You accomplished s___, you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™.
    Islamist thugs are gang raping your German women, you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™, while you girly-boys are standing around peeing in your panties, you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™ pussies.
    What so-called “accomplishment” are you talking about you effeminate neo-Nazi girly-boy, beatch, neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™?

  142. Avery says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Give me a minute to compose myself.
    Then I will.

  143. Avery says:

    {ps 2: my ethnicities, Germans and Italians, have accomplished more than armenians could ever dream to.}

    Your German ethnicity is a broken beatch, you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™..
    What accomplishment, you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™?

    Your Fuhrer, Herr Merkel, can’t wait to run to IslamoFascist Turkey to kiss Sultan Erdogan butt.
    Your German women are being sexually assaulted and gang-raped by Ismalist thugs, while your pussyfied “men” stand around peeing their panties in fear.

    Americans are peeing on your face.
    Zionists are peeing on your face.
    Turks are peeing on your face.
    And you neo-Nazi mongrel.POS™ think it’s raining.
    What have you “accomplished” you mongrel s____h___?
    Presenting your young women to Islamofascist gang-rapists, so they can mongrelize your mongrel, so-called “Aryan” “Master Race”, you mongrel.POS™ even more, you mongrel scum?

  144. L.K says:
    @Latvian woman


    “LK, we don’t have the luxury of neutrality. It didn’t work at all the last time.”

    Foolish comment, you r comparing very different animals as if they r the same. Trust me, if the Russians wanted you guys gone, you would be gone, as quickly as the last time around, NATO or no NATO.
    Yes, I realize Russia is not an angel but ever since the end of the S.U it has behaved almost entirely within the framework of international law, unlike ZUSA and its pathetic EU client states.

    The agressive Russian types are not – for the moment – in power. Cornering Russia might eventually lead to harsher folks into power than the relatively mild Putin. Russia’s behaviour in the face of constant US provocation has been quite restrained.

    Yes, I can and I do blame the criminally insane zamerican neocons and their local agents and useful idiots(in Ukraine) for the crisis in the Ukraine and my position is supported by the facts.
    You should read what people say b4 replying. I stated NATO should be abolished. It’s a dangerous tool for US Empire and hegemony, at the expense of Europe.
    Therefore I’m not singling Latvia or Poland out… however you are also being quite silly/dishonest in failing to note NATO’s constant expansion eastwards towards Russian borders. This sort of thing does NOT increase Latvia’s(or the other baltic states) security, on the contrary, it increases the chances of conflict. Do i need to draw it for you?

    Crimea has returned home, where it belonged.
    The Ukraine, as it was set up, is an artificial state. As a more or less neutral state, it might even have survived in its artificial form but not anymore.

  145. Ed says: • Website
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “It’s also worth noting that the Soviet annexation of Lithuania, which per the Ribbentrop-Molotov protocols belonged to the German sphere of influence, represented an abrogation of the non-aggression pact well before Barbarossa.”

    I really hate commenting on these threads, for reasons that should be clear to anyone else who has waded through the other 150 comments, but there is actually a historical error here that needs corrected. The Nazis agreed to adjust the Nazi-Soviet Pact to allow the Soviets to take Lithuania in return for the Nazis getting a bit more of Poland. At the time this wasn’t a big deal. There were obviously other differences between Germany and the Soviet Union, but this wasn’t one of them. The commentator goes on to imply that the surprise Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union was provoked by the Soviet Union, which goes into the “she was wearing a short skirt! she asked for it!” class of arguments.

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  146. L.K says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Correct, Beefcake. Additionally, the Roosevelt admin worked hard to get Britain, France and Poland into war against Germany, already in 1938.

    Just to flash out what u said a bit more, an exerpt from an article written by a friend a few years ago, with some comments added:

    On 26 January 1934, Germany and Poland signed a non-aggression Treaty, and on 24 October 1938, Ribbentrop had a lengthy talk with the Polish envoy Lipski, to see if outstanding issues could not be settled. His suggestion: Danzig(which was about 97% German at the time. Versailles had robbed Germany of 1/8 of her territory and 1/10 of her people, see maps of Europe in 1914 and 1923.
    The German offer was more than reasonable as it relinquished most german territories grabbed by Poland in return for Danzig and a corridor linking to East Prussia.)
    ) was to be returned to Germany and a rail/road link built connecting East Prussia to Germany[East Prussia had been severed from the rest of Germany after WWI]. Poland, in return, would get to keep all the German territories given to it at Versailles, with Germany to guarantee the border for 25 years.[ plus, Poland would be left in control of the economic and railway facilities in Danzig. At any rate the poles were building their own port, Gdynia, and could continue to use Danzig. There was no reason whatsoever for Poland to rule Danzig. ] Lipski promised to relay those proposals to the Polish foreign minister Jozef Beck. Those very reasonable proposals were eventually turned down by the Poles.[10] Negations continued but when the British gave the Poles that unconditional guarantee against Germany, the Poles – emboldened by the British guarantee – refused to negotiate any further. But even after Britain had given the Poles that guarantee, Hitler, along with other ministers, had worked out a 16 point program in order to try and settle issues peacefully. He had informed the British about this program and waited, right up to 31 August 1939, for a Polish emissary, no one showed up. The 16 points were broadcast on the radio at 21:00 hrs (9:00 o’clock) on 31 August, the Poles ridiculed them and called their people to arms[general mobilization], on 1 September 1939, the German army marched into Poland.[11]

  147. Neither side will prevail in a WW III. Indeed, 6 MILLION of the planet’s people will disappear.



  148. @Latvian woman

    Baltic states don’t have the luxury of neutrality not because of someone’s else intentions, but due to their own incapability of independent existence. When left neutral, such Latvias suddenly find they produce nothing useful and are unwanted elsewhere. Next, they try to become commissioners and brokers between Russia and other european nations – only to find they are not needed also. Even with this, they overestimate their value as a potential brokers. I personally know some Latvian professors who seriously consider themselves fit to teach us Russians, and of course they present themselves as true European thinkers and civilizers – to the amusement and disgust of everyone.

    This ‘Latvian woman’ is ridiculous as well, fluently spewing US-made russophobic propaganda so typical of Baltics, Poles and other neighbors of that ilk you won’t like to see next door. Latvian and Estonian women are quiet rustic milkmaids that in 1980s seeked promiscuous contacts with every Russian soldier – just to vary their recessive genetics, with the pagan rite of Ligo (unrestricted group sex on June 23). On that day Soviet officers ordered all young soldiers to stay inside barracks and stayed themselves too – no one wanted himself to be forced to marriage with a retard.

    • Agree: Kiza
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  149. 5371 says:

    The wild wind here is blowing between your ears.

  150. @Ed

    Error acknowledged. I see though, that there is no objection to my claim about the Soviet threat to the Wehrmacht’s Romanian oil supplies?

  151. Avery says:
    @Poles never learn

    Recessive genes in full display.
    Latvians proudly “honoring” SS war criminals and murderers.

    [Latvia: March in Riga commemorating veterans of Waffen SS ]

    • Replies: @Marcus
  152. @Andrei Martyanov

    Everything one needs to know about Putinist Russia is available in open sources, the most common source used by intel agencies worldwide. You might wish to peruse some military history and actually get to know people that serve as it might help you get past preening in ignorance.

    It is self evident that reality is something you are utterly unacquainted with.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  153. @voicum

    Everything is OK. You can go back to sleep now.

  154. @Che Guava

    You need to go pack through some of the stuff he’s posted. He says why he can’t go back. Putinist Russia is a danger to him.

    My handle is my Navy Rating. US Navy Quartermasters are Navigators.

  155. @Lame Cherry

    It is not. It is in the same line as chapter 37 and 38 and 39 is what follows. There are two wars involving Gog and Magog. Ezekial deals with one, the one referenced in Revelation is the second.

    • Replies: @5371
  156. Marcus says:

    Is that really surprising considering their subjugation by the USSR before and after the war? Ironically they played a big part in the bolshevik movement, along with all the other minorities who were overrepresented.

  157. 5371 says:

    Forget Gog, you seem to have been at the grog.

  158. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    You might wish to peruse some military history and actually get to know people that serve as it might help you get past preening in ignorance.

    I liked the part about “getting to know people that serve”. This is a good one;-) As per military history–I know a number of extremely authoritative sources which may give you an aneurysm. Out of pure humanitarian reasons I would suggest you not to acquaint yourself with them;-)

  159. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I loved the article and on one level it makes a lot of sense.
    Here is some things to consider that most people overlook.
    – In any war between superpowers one side has to lose. That losing side will bring out the nukes. The war will quickly transition to a nuke slugfest. This is to say; this time the stakes are too high.
    – The decision to go to war will be made by the elites, not the public. It seems unlikely, even given that the people at the top are psychopathic, that they are also self destructive. In other words do they want to sit out the war in luxury underground bunkers only to surface to a radioactive glass covered planet wearing hazmat suits.
    – The priority of the globalists is power, control, depopulation, and covering up their complicity in the collapse of society and ultimately their personal survival of themselves, their families and maintenance of a comfortable if not luxury lifestyle. Being able to be at the top of a New World Order would be nice as well.
    – Think then of the Audrey Thomasson’s “Apocalypse Equation”. What does this mean? It goes like this. World elites together, orchestrate a choreographed thermonuclear war using say neutron bombs that takes out populations of people but not the infrastructure. High population density targets like NY, Shanghai Leningrad say would be selected. Thomasson hypothesizes that such a war is inevitable if population growth continues unchecked, and individual nations are pitted against each other in the competition for remaining resources. A deal where elites work together to reduce populations to manageable levels makes perfect sense, as opposed to launching a civilization ending war with a very unpredictable outcome. After all world elites may be a little crazy but they are far from stupid.
    – Don’t believe that the superpowers don’t work together; the US gave Russia the bomb in the late 40’s, Russia is still part of the IMF got heavy financing after the collapse of Russia. China was given nuclear secrets by Bill Clinton and the job as the world’s factory and favorable trade agreements that encouraged offshore production. This is how deals are made. It is tit for tat relationship.
    – This can answer the question with why Merkel and Hollande would support the provocation and prodding of Russia, since both would be on the front line of an advancing Russian military. It is much easier to get their support if the outcome is already pre-determined; than if the European nations faced total annihilation. They have been through this before while America’s homeland was unscathed.
    I think “Apocalypse Equation” scenario is of greater benefit to the instigators, since this will maintain the status quo of the power structure with minimal collateral damage, and resolving the over population issue while achieving the one world government they want. If history is our teacher, the best way to achieve radical social change quickly is accomplished through war.
    The beauty of this scenario is that the public is caught up in the past where a bad guy Hitler or the Emperor of Japan appears out of nowhere and attacks a peaceful nation like America. History tells us that Wilson got the US into WWI after campaigning he would not get America in another war and the reality is FDR had broken the Japanese codes and had provoked them into the attack and had foreknowledge of it. This is historical fact. The only ones that believe that wars are accidental are the populations who suffer under them. They are the ones who are continually duped and end up paying the ultimate price.

  160. @Quartermaster

    Few things exemplify the lack of ability of western military forces than the fact that you serve among them. Your posts have only ever made sense to me since I started inferring that they mean the very opposite of what has been written. Have a nice day.

  161. Seraphim says:

    Excellent observation. The franchisees fight against the ‘res publica’ is as old as (at least) the Roman Republic.

  162. tsotha says:

    I speak of conquest because that is exactly what it is, but a conquest achieved according to the rules of 21st century warfare which I define as “80% informational, 15% economic and 5% military”.

    Come on, Saker. If you’re going to redefine common words you don’t have any common ground with other English speakers.

  163. Che Guava says:

    Respect to you and sincere apologies for a silly post. My time of milit. service was also navy, not the same one, but it makes us comrades in a way.

    I do find it a little odd that he doesn’t want to live in Russia and seems to have had an elite upbringing in schools in Switzerland.

    However, I am a relative newcomer to the site. Will be sleeping after this.

    He says why he can’t go back. Putinist Russia is a danger to him.

    I don’t have the time to go through all of the Saker’s posts to see what you say was said, I don’t like that kind of thing in general. Why don’t you, QM, find the relevant points, summarise them (since you know where they are) and work them into a reply to the next Saker article?


  164. gwynedd1 says:

    Bringing up Ezekial 38 & 39 is tantamount to …being best left unsaid. I spent a good deal of time debunking this 2000 year old end timer farce because it was what I was taught as a child. You’d think Hebrews 9:26 would have put an end to this rubbish alone let alone the

    I have a feeling you have superficial and biased view of the Soviet empire and Russia as you do about the bible as a whole. The Soviet empire died because it was multicultural paradise. Not something you see in the press because that would cause too many parallels. While a good deal is attributable to socialist ideology , the Soviet ethnic diversity problem was ignored by both side of our political spectrum. The old right was too keen to trumpet its victorious ideology over socialism and the left was very keen on not looking into destructive diversity. However if you’d bother to see the early Soviets you’d notice Korenizatsiya. Stalin of course put an end to this nonsense being the epitome of a realpolitik dictator trying to rule an empire.

    The Russian Federation is far more of a cohesive nation. Its two main ethnic groups of Russian and Tartar don’t seem to have any identity political problem. I’d certainly say Russians have cultural sway but in this case the dominant minority were the former slaves. Bottom line is they get along. I know since i have been there.

    Russia has a way to go, but since the fall of the Soviets being fool is punished unlike here in the West. Time does not appear to be on our side if present trends continue. We look like the socialist and divided empire more than they at the moment.

    • Agree: Kiza
  165. Che Guava says:

    I was going to say that you were talking bs about being a quartermaster, but I checked, and see that you are correct about the USN having an eccentric definition of the role.

    I wonder how that happened? The history of it would be interesting.

    That said, I am happy that you are not a quartermaster in the usual sense of the man in charge of weapon storage, and especially not a quartermaster of nukes.

    Nobody fond of OT apolyptic verses, nor the apocalypse of St. John (yes, I know that it is not the same as the writer of the gospel), should be allowed anywhere near such roles, just as Muslims should not (of course, it can’t be helped in Pakistan, but they seem to be pretty careful about selection).

    Avigdor Lieberman being defence min. in Israel is a nightmare, but one would presume (or hope) they have mechanisms to prevent him having a decisive say in who goes near their nuke arsenal.

    The U.S.A. should also bar Mormons from such work, except perhaps in cases where there are triple key systems.

    I appreciate the Saker’s articles, as in the earlier post, if you want to make claims about the pattern, it is up to you to make a summary of why what you think about his writing says what you think of his articles, and post it here or in response to the next article.

    Sincerely, thanks for enlightening me as to what ‘quartermaster’ means in the USN, never knew it before.

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  166. 5371 says:
    @Che Guava

    Lieberman isn’t one of the red heifer crew, he may be crazy but not, I think, in that way.
    Mormons aren’t even monotheists, why should they be banned ? ))

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  167. Che Guava says:

    I know that Mormons are not monotheists, neither are they Christians (although they like to pretend).

    If I meet their missionaries by chance, I am always polite, as are they. Help them to find good places to stay if they are clueless. Pleasant conversations. Always make it clear that I will never be a convert.

    They are also apocalypsists, which is why, if I were a general in the SAC (not, of course), I would subject them to close scrutiny.

    Lieberman, a loon, I do not know what you mean by ‘red heifer crew’, pray tell.

    I am always open to learning.

    • Replies: @5371
  168. 5371 says:
    @Che Guava

    The idea is that by hook or by crook one has to be gotten (no easy matter) before “rebuilding” the Jewish temple with ensuing fun and games. Various charlatans have proposed to do this.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  169. Che Guava says:

    Now that you remind me of it, I do recall it from the OT. Read the whole thing, OT and NT, cover to cover, twice.

    Only return to the OT for the Greek and Egyptian influenced bits (Psalms, Ecclesiastes, Ecclesiasticus), and Proverbs, Job, a couple of others, for serious reading, of course, as an amateur theologian, the curious multi-layered mythology in Genesis for a mystery.

    Hadn’t been aware that there was a ‘red heifer crew’, it is scary, such red heifers are not as hard to find as you think, in my experience overseas.


    Avigdor Lieberman: from nightclub bouncer in Moldova to minister of war.

    I would guess and hope that the milit. brass have organisational structures to restrain the jerk.

    Thank you for the reply.

  170. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I have just two questions:

    1. What are the sources of this information?

    2. Can I access these sources to verify content?


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  171. Clyde says:

    Avigdor Lieberman: from nightclub bouncer in Moldova to minister of war.

    Look at his photos. Is he tough enough to bounce you from his nightclub or from Israel’s borders? Do you really think he is not hi-IQ? He is Netanyahu’s version of Ramzan Kadyrov.

  172. Akira says: • Website

    Joy to the people! Death to the enemies!

  173. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:


    I have just two questions:

    1. What are the sources of this information?

    2. Can I access these sources to verify content?


    The Faker doesn’t have source material, he writes “opinions”. YMMV

  174. What I read it’s yet another propaganda. Sorry, but stating that from 1000 years there is constant treat from West to Russia is incorrect. But what to expect from Hezbollah fan. I must be said that ub case of Napoleon, WWI and WWII Russia was allied with UK. Without allied help Russia would not win WWII. Not mention that USSR collaborated with Nazi-Germany in term of developing military technology before war. Together they started (Ribbentrop-Molotov) II WW in Europe, collaborated in eliminations of once independent nations elites. And off course by this russian dirty game it itself ended nearly dead. So it’s not that Russia not stars wars, but end them –instead they started it with Hitler and not ended in Berlin, but war was ended only when Asia was liberated from Japans.

    Today Russia goes same path that Hitler goes. Making many enemies few allies. And boasting of brutish army and trying to scare others like real thug is only giving opposite effects. If Russia glorify psycho-killer humans it is their end. It will end like in Finland in 1940 or in Afganistan in 1979. Robust hominids are the story of the past. People don’t want to be ruled by psycho shit, but by predictable ruler or hegemon. Nobody will join them, especially where there is Chinese alternative, who win nation exactly around Russia, Russia included. Look at Central Asia and see how such strategy ends. And not only there. That’s because they would like to have Chinese assistance, especially when China military doctrine don’t predict use of WMD against country without it. And the best part is that growing Chinese influence in Eastern Europe will really undermine Russian position there. So take a look at China who is going to shape world rules. They are minimalizing importance of military action and focus on economic growth, which they also share with others. And their diplomacy and even their propaganda is more like silk. This thinking, attitude and approach enabled China to make friends around the world. Even westerners acknowledge that China is becoming biggest superpower . And they join China in China led institutions, who in future will replace those west-led.

    I few years, maybe more, there won’t be US hegemony. US neoconservative policy is bankrupted and it will change into isolationism and protectionism in near future. US will take Chinese lead as fact and defend their own sphere of influence or even be China cosest ally (without hegemonic interests in Asia it is possible). US Military will be more focused on own defence forces including determent ones, but probably will take Chinese lead as fact and defend their own sphere of influence.

    Meanwhile China is seeking a way (a will do it even more rigorously) to revert legacy of Chinese Fall of Chinese Empire, which mean end the legacy of unequal treaties. So Russians will wake up in really hostile environment (not silly Eastern European militaries). How then they will make friends in world more tied with China, especially in West? Even if they would like to help, they won’t have resources to do that.

    That’s why Russia headed toward Europe is lost, because it still present XIX century imperialism. This is dead-end, because future is not belonging to Atlantic powers, but to Pacific ones – one look at future GDP reveals where XXI century developed countries will be.

  175. @rod1963

    Good point about China.

    Who knows, if the US gets itself into an unnecessary war against Russia, China could take more than just Taiwan and Vietnam — how about Australia, New Zealand, the Philippines, and Japan? Those four countries’ militaries combined would barely slow down the Chinese juggernaut.

    Yet another reason not to gravely weaken or destroy our military capacities and forces by ginning up a war against Russia. China and Islam would certainly be the beneficiaries.

  176. @nonSense

    Thank you for the valuable information. Terrible news about the low screening rate.

    So we have enough money to occupy Afghanistan, occupy Iraq, bomb Syria, send ships to threaten North Korea, send troops near Russia’s borders for “exercises”, etc., but we can’t afford to screen more than four freeking percent of cargo coming into our country?

    I’d be curious to know what kind of staffing and funding would be needed for us to screen, say, twenty percent of all cargo coming in. Substantial, to be sure, but I’ll bet it’s nothing compared to the cost of the unnecessary, non-defensive, unconstitutional wars and occupations just mentioned.

  177. Leo says:

    Arrogance… better look around you.

  178. @nonSense

    This article completely misses the point about why the US spends so much money on the military. A western military today is simply a jobs program, just as the space program is a jobs program.

    The ‘Military Industrial Complex” makes huge profits when the ‘defense’ budget is increased. Money is given to politicians, especially in the Senate, to help increase the defense budget. You need an enemy to justify spending more money on the military, so Russia and China are convenient ‘enemies’.

    Rational countries (like Germany) know there’s no threat from Russia, and so are unwilling to spend more money on their rather impotent militaries. Since there’s no threat, there’s no problem, and their energies go into more productive things.

    Understand military ‘strategists’ for what they are – shills for people who want bigger defense budgets. The Saker tries to analyze the US steps from a military point of view, but this is a waste of time. It’s just a way to get more money into the pockets of the US defense contractors.

  179. anon[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    The Rocket Force operators seem to have recovered from a couple of decades of silo-based religious sex, drugs and rock and roll. To the point that now they are thinking that ‘a maverick’ in the WH could give them the ‘go code’ they wouldn’t want to punch-in. As if.

    Trump had a nuclear experience in his first year, when some CD lard ass sat on a ‘panic button’ and the State of Hawaii was led to believe it had 20 minutes before the “Norks’ nukuler ICBMs” turned paradise into a smoking wasteland. I’m pretty sure the go-codes were on that big desk in the Oval Orifice – and the starter keys were in the Minutemen’s ignitions.

    Or something wasn’t working, right?

  180. anon[380] • Disclaimer says:

    It could be historical braggadocio. Chechnya was a while ago and even it wasn’t done as effectively or as well, as the GPW. The Chechens are still only marginally reliable.

    Victorious war fightin’ armies have come a cropper within living memory of the big parades. The US was hard-pressed to call it a draw in Korea 5 scant years after subduing two evil empires. Even the reconstituted anti-communist Cold War force exhausted its potency- and its soul – in SE Asia and then faced a decade of navel-gazing and focus-grouping before it worked-up the gumption to invade Grenada and Panama.

    It followed those sucker punches with a round house to the Gulf and second round victory rolls into Afghanistan and Iraq. It’s still keeping watch in both. There are currently a number of other World hot spots requiring kinetic action. The USA has more challenges, now, than ever before. Allies too.

    Russia followed much the same ballistic arc, muscling eastern Europe into ‘totalitarianism’ and then bombing out in Afghanistan before the US showed-up to try the same thing. The victory was wasted in Europe and after the Soviets collapsed, things looked almost hopeless. The West couldn’t get its act together enough to ensure that depression would continue and Putin clawed some of that lost glory back.

    So well, in fact, that the Cold War is back on the front burner and the World is in greater danger of self-immolating than ever.

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