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Israel's Objective in the Gaza War: Kill the Buildings

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Supporters of Israel, who are mostly on the Right, believe the Israeli government’s official story, which is that the Jewish state’s bombing campaign and ground invasion of Gaza has one objective: deposing Hamas so its fighters and government no longer pose a threat. According to this narrative, Palestinian civilian deaths are unavoidable collateral damage in a densely populated urban environment.

Those who are not siloed into Team Politics on the conflict, like human rights groups, are convinced that the bombing is indiscriminate — that Israel is bombing willy-nilly because they’re reacting with blind rage to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack.

Supporters of Palestine, mostly on the Left, think that Israel is actively targeting civilians in a gleeful bloodthirsty campaign of genocide, trying to massacre as many innocents as possible.

They are all wrong.

Israel isn’t trying to kill people.

It’s trying to kill buildings.

People die when buildings get bombed. But killing people is not the Israelis’ goal. They’re out to flatten Gaza. Flattening some Gazans is a side effect of flattening buildings.

Most species don’t go extinct after being hunted to death. Their habitat is destroyed.

Israel’s war aim in Gaza, I believe, is to destroy so many apartment buildings and shops and schools and hospitals and other infrastructure that the territory becomes uninhabitable.

The Israel Defense Forces may already have accomplished that. According to the United Nations, 45% of the housing stock in the Gaza Strip has been destroyed. Over 1.5 million out of a total population of 2.3 million are “internally displaced,” i.e., homeless and living on the streets. Only one out of the 18 hospitals in northern Gaza, until six weeks ago the Strip’s most populous area, is still functioning. Four weeks into the war, 61% of all employment in Gaza was gone — this in a previously impoverished place with sky-high unemployment.

Imagine if the protesters calling for a ceasefire got their way. That a permanent ceasefire took effect tomorrow. Imagine that the war came to an end, that Israel told the residents of Gaza that they could safely return home.

Return to what?

Half the population has no home to return to. (That number increases with each Israeli bomb.) Upon returning to their homes, many of them damaged, the other half would have no water or electricity or fuel or telephone or internet service, no shops or stores to buy food or clothing or anything else, no income and therefore no money to buy it with, no school to send their kids to, no hospital to treat them when they fell sick or were injured.

A New York Times reporter, who described himself as “stunned” and who had lived in Gaza before the latest war described “a landscape so disfigured by 42 days of airstrikes and nearly three weeks of ground warfare that it was hard at times to understand where we were.”

David Ignatius of The Washington Post reports that northern Gaza “has been reduced to a skeleton. Standing on Salah al-Din Street in Gaza City a week ago, I saw shattered buildings in every direction.” It will be impossible for anyone to live in such a disaster zone. It’s not like Israel or the Saudis or anyone else will rush in to clean up the mess.

Anti-Zionist leftists think Israel is planning Nakba 2.0, a forced removal of the Palestinian population from Gaza in which the IDF would truck or march them out at gunpoint. Hot-headed Israeli politicians have fed that theory. So has a leaked internal Israeli government memorandum that touts “a unique and rare opportunity to evacuate the whole Gaza Strip in co-ordination with the Egyptian government.” In a replay of 1948, the Israeli government refuses to guarantee a “right to return” home after the conclusion of military operations.

All this adds up to an inescapable conclusion: After the Gaza Strip has been ethnically cleansed of its Palestinian population, Israel will annex it.

While annexation is certainly the objective, I don’t believe the Israelis intend to murder all the Palestinians or expel them into the desert by force. Israel is already facing severe international opprobrium; such a radical move would turn it into a pariah state. Even the U.S. would sever ties.

Israel has something else in mind: Palestinians will leave Gaza of their own accord.

The Gaza Strip is now an unlivable hellscape filled with piles of rubble covering thousands of dead bodies. Rotting bodies hasten the transmission of nasty diseases like tuberculosis and cholera. According to Euro-Med Monitor, contact with dead bodies leaking feces, soiled clothing, and contaminated tools or vehicles can spread hepatitis, tuberculosis and HIV, and ruin ground water supplies. Birds, rodents and insects eat bodies and spread other diseases, including malaria.

War keeps killing people years after “peace” returns. Rubble is dangerous. Bombs and unexploded ordnance must be professionally cleared away, a process that takes years, even decades.

Shortly after Oct. 7, the IDF dropped flyers over northern Gaza ordering the population to evacuate south, into a “safe zone.” Most people complied. The IDF now controls the north.

Now a second round of leaflets is falling on eastern Khan Younis, the biggest city in southern Gaza, ordering people to flee from the southeast to the southwest in preparation for IDF carpet-bombing there as well.

A glance at a map reveals what the Israelis are up to: They are herding the Palestinians southwest.

What’s southwest? The Rafah border crossing into Egypt.

Once the Gazan refugees are massed against the gates of Rafah, Israel will open the border. Palestinians will stream into and across the Sinai Peninsula in search of villages, towns and cities where they might have some sort of future.

President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi sees the near future. “What is happening now in Gaza is an attempt to force civilian residents to take refuge and migrate to Egypt, which should not be accepted,” Sisi complains. But he can’t do anything to prevent it.

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Such an eventuality would mean “that we move the idea of resistance, of combat, from the Gaza Strip to Sinai, and so Sinai would become the base for launching operations against Israel,” Sisi warns in a message that implies he sees the Palestinianization of the Sinai as inevitable.

If Sisi’s prediction comes true, it will be a huge win for Israel. Most importantly, Israel would annex Gaza. They’d clean up the debris, cart away the rubble, and transform Gaza into luxurious seaside resorts and vacation homes. If and when the re-displaced Gazans eventually manage to reconstitute themselves enough to once again launch airstrikes into Israel, rockets from Hamas (or whatever new organization will replace it) would be farther away from major Israeli population centers.

Forcing the population of Gaza to flee by destroying the territory’s infrastructure is the war crime of ethnic cleansing, defined in a U.N. report on the collapse of Yugoslavia as “rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area.”

An indigenous resistance organization embedded into a civilian population like Hamas cannot be bombed into oblivion; the U.S. experience against the Taliban demonstrates that indiscriminate military action only increases support for your enemy. The IDF is aware of this; their U.S. allies keep reminding them of America’s failed counterterrorism operations after 9/11. Israel is far too aware of its dependence on U.S. political and financial support to think about killing all 2.3 million Gazan Palestinians — which, besides, would also disgust and alienate most Israeli citizens, no matter how enraged they are at Hamas.

Ethnic cleansing with the goal of annexing Gaza is the only plausible explanation for Israel’s behavior since Oct. 7.

Israel is willing to kill the people. But they’re really out to kill the buildings.

Ted Rall (Twitter: @tedrall), the political cartoonist, columnist and graphic novelist, co-hosts the left-vs-right DMZ America podcast with fellow cartoonist Scott Stantis.

 
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  1. Nico X says:

    There was no ‘Hamas’ attack or hostages…its was all a staged Israelie black op–providing the pretext for Israel to depopulate Gaza & send all these mongrel Muslims to the West–so they can start knifing white kids like in Ireland or set up their ‘sex grooming gangs’ raping & pimping out brainless white trollops.

  2. Notsofast says:

    that may have been israel’s plan, but if so it has backfired spectacularly. you don’t know the palestinians if you think they will volunteer to leave, as they know the game too well.

    most likely this will be the catalyst for the 2 state solution on the 67 borders, and official recognition of palestine. that will leave the israelis 75% of palestine, that they deserve none of, but it will put an end to the zionist pipedream of the nile to the euphrates nonsense.

    at that point palestinian israelis, need to start making as many babies at tax payer expense as possible, until they win the demographic war.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    , @JTF
  3. Voltarde says:

    “Bombs and unexploded ordnance must be professionally cleared away, a process that takes years, even decades.

    It could take centuries.

    Iron harvest
    https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Iron_harvest

    “The iron harvest (French: récolte de fer) is the annual collection of unexploded ordnance, barbed wire, shrapnel, bullets and congruent trench supports collected by Belgian and French farmers after ploughing their fields. The harvest generally consists of material from the First World War, which is still found in large quantities across the former Western Front.

    During World War I, an estimated one tonne of explosives was fired for every square metre of territory on the Western front. As many as one in every four shells fired did not detonate. In the Ypres Salient, an estimated 300 million projectiles that the British and the German forces fired at each other during World War I were duds, and most of them have not been recovered. According to its website, DOVO, the demining unit of the Belgian armed forces, defused more than 200 tons of ammunition in 2019.

    • Thanks: Notsofast
  4. Ted Rall makes a convincing case for Israel’s undisclosed plan of transforming Gaza into such a Hellish landscape that the beaten-down gentiles there simply give up all hope and crawl away. If this ruthless plot succeeds, then there’s no tangible ‘war crime’ and Israel finally gets the land without the yukky-yuk gentiles who were born there. This seems to makes sense.

    Hitler sought the same endgame but he was bombed into oblivion by the good guys and then blamed for everything bad that happened.

    Rall’s scenario is consistent with what the Israelis have been implementing for decades: making life for Palestinians as miserable as possible (without actually killing all of them) in hopes of driving them out.

    The Israeli strategy is to impose unrelenting pain, suffering, and humiliation with the hope of creating outright desperation in their subjects. When critical mass is achieved, the Palestinians will bow down and accept defeat. That’s the Zionist objective.

    Sure, it’s a diabolical strategy but it’s 100% kosher.

    • Agree: Xavier
    • Replies: @Observator
    , @DogZ
    , @Xavier
  5. mike99588 says:

    The real question is whether the other ME countries are going to stop Israel’s ethnic cleansing before the population detonation/dispersal of Gaza, now or not, and hold Greater Israel to even to a small fractional account.

    Israel’s “only targeting Hamas” pretext and the old Holocaust shield are wearing thin.
    The essentially complete ethnic population replacement, from Palestine ca 1923-4 to Israel 2024 is a chilling feat, and a serious warning to the US.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @padre
    , @LeZ
  6. Altai3 says:

    There is an apocryphal statement sometimes attributed to Mao Zedong where he asked his comrades what’s the best way to get a cat into the ocean. They seemed puzzled and then proposed throwing it, one man thinks he is wiser to say you put it in a sack and then throw it.

    Mao then corrects them. “You set fire to the beach”.

    • Replies: @Simon D
    , @Madbadger
  7. meamjojo says:

    “All this adds up to an inescapable conclusion: After the Gaza Strip has been ethnically cleansed of its Palestinian population, Israel will annex it.”

    Finally, an intelligent article from Rall.

    But I don’t understand the use of the term “ethnically cleansed”. If Palestinians get pushed into Egypt, then is that ethnic cleansing? Since they are the only ethics in Gaza?

    Whatever. I hope this turns out to be the actual plan.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @werpor
  8. meamjojo says:

    “The Gaza Strip is now an unlivable hellscape filled with piles of rubble covering thousands of dead bodies. Rotting bodies hasten the transmission of nasty diseases like tuberculosis and cholera. According to Euro-Med Monitor, contact with dead bodies leaking feces, soiled clothing, and contaminated tools or vehicles can spread hepatitis, tuberculosis and HIV, and ruin ground water supplies. Birds, rodents and insects eat bodies and spread other diseases, including malaria.”
    ——–
    I find the Gaza destruction impressive. Speaking of filth and diseases, Mexico has a large problem from their most recent hurricane and they don’t even have a lot of dead bodies like Gaza.

    Cockroaches and Mountains of Trash Plague Acapulco After Hurricane
    Residents complain of rashes and stomach ailments as 666,000 tons of garbage overwhelm the city. Uncollected waste after natural disasters can lead to illnesses, experts said.
    Nov. 25, 2023, 12:01 a.m. ET

    Below the shattered windows of the high-rise hotels in downtown Acapulco, people walk alongside towering hills of garbage bags filled with rotting food and debris, from mattresses to Christmas decorations. Volunteer firefighters from distant states clear the waste, wiping away swarms of cockroaches from their arms.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/25/world/americas/hurricane-otis-acapulco-health-crisis.html

    • Replies: @Corrupt
    , @Minister Mose
  9. Wokechoke says:

    Pause there for a moment…

    “…that we move the idea of resistance, of combat, from the Gaza Strip to Sinai, and so Sinai would become the base for launching operations against Israel,” President Sisi.

    Does Pharoah want to fight the Jews?

  10. anonymous[840] • Disclaimer says:

    This one of Ted Rall’s best.

    Hezbollah leader Nasrallah has claimed that the takeover of Gaza is their red line, they will not allow it and will go to total war against Israel, even at the risk of Lebanon being destroyed. We may indeed find out whether this was bluster or not.

    And just to remind, Egypt’s President Al-Sisi, playing a star role in this ethnic cleansing of Gaza, is flat-out legally Jewish, he had a Moroccan Jewish mother
    https://henrymakow.com/2023/11/egyptian-president-is-a-jew.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20130918091705/http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/16/al-sisi-jew/

    General Abd al-Fattah al-Sisi, is a Jew. His mother, Malikah Titani, is a Moroccan Jew from Asefi, which makes al-Sisi a Jew and an automatic citizen of Israel. … al-Sisi has concealed his Jewish identity and Israeli connections from the Egyptian people…and destroyed their nascent democracy through deception and mass murder.

    Al-Sisi is almost certainly a Mossad agent. … No wonder the Israeli ambassador called al-Sisi “a national hero for all Jews.” … Egypt … a permanent province of Greater Israel, ruled by a Jewish-Zionist thug who has appointed himself pharaoh, while hiding his real background and loyalties.

    Al-Sisi’s uncle, Uri Sibagh served in the Jewish Defense League from 1948 to 1950, made his aliyah to Israel, and became a bigwig in Ben Gurion’s political party, serving as the secretary of the Israeli Labor Party in Beersheba from 1968 to 1981. Uri’s sister – al-Sisi’s mother – presumably emigrated to Egypt on a mission from the Mossad. That mission culminated when the Mossad overthrew President Morsi and installed its agent al-Sisi in the coup d’état of July 3rd, 2013.

    • Thanks: Haxo Angmark
    • Replies: @Altai3
  11. BuelahMan says:

    Who needs Judy Woods’ energy weapons when you can simply bomb the infrastructure to smithereens, ready for the wave of jews building upon the ruins?

    • Replies: @Adolf Smith
  12. Your article makes sense.

  13. The Israelis kill to steal those lands and destroy everything to make the area uninhabitable, then the Western Christians will give them the money to build new modern communities for free.
    The massacre of Palestinians is important to avoid a return or future claims for the crimes, as the white Europeans did who murdered the entire population in order to be the masters.
    This is how Europe became rich, with banditry, which is why it is laughable when white people talk about states of rights.

    • Agree: JR Foley
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  14. @mark green

    Must we always trot out Hitler as the incarnation of every one of our worst fears or to make points we think we need to emphasize? The allies dropped more bombs on Berlin alone than Germany dropped on all of England in the entire war. And as recent English-speaking historians are finally beginning to acknowledge, Barbarossa was a reaction to Stalin stacking 295 new divisions all along Europe’s eastern border, poised to invade. There was no plan to colonize Russia. Germany’s limited resources for planned expansion were entirely devoted in 1941 to resettling people in Posen and other territory taken from Germany in 1919 to create Poland, reclaimed less than two years earlier.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Thanks: mark green
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  15. Altai3 says:
    @anonymous

    Their previous red line was an Israeli ground invasion of Gaza, they didn’t make good on that one. But Israel is the kind of entity and society that frankly won’t stop abusing everyone around it until it is completely defeated in a war. The way to stop a psychopath taking things from others that never belonged to them is to beat them up.

    The Jewish donor class will ensure the neocons and Israeli lobby (As will the tacit support or lukewarm criticism of American Jews of influence in the media and society) will prevent the US from ever bringing Israel to account or even just stop enabling it. Everyone is outraged about this now but in a few years time if Israel gets away with this it’ll just continue it’s slow motion ethnic cleansing of the West Bank without much push-back or outrage on the internet or streets of Western capitals.

    But for Netanyahu and others like him, the real worry is that the “Project for a New American Century” has utterly failed through deranged neocon overreach in Ukraine. With the US now on an inexorably decline from global hyperpower hegemon status. The Hamas attack and blank check given by the Israeli public and the US government to ever-escalating attacks on Gaza and Gazans, an opening has presented itself to both ethnically cleanse Gaza of Palestinians and in so doing provoke a war with Syria and Iran that the US will not only find impossible to argue against “defending” Israel against but has already put all the pieces in place to begin. All the better at least Russia is still tied up in Ukraine and so can’t act to intervene much. The logic for pushing the Gazans into Egypt is there. (There is also the personal motivation for Netanyahu to create political problems, war, genocide for which he is the ideal political solution to save himself from political death and prosecution. Liberal Israelis love making him a scapegoat, he does something savage and they clutch their pearls “Oh no, that’s so terrible! But we can’t turn back time…”. They love letting him do their dirty work for them,) For the Arabs and Iranians too they see a weak Israel and weak US and an act they cannot let go unanswered. This regional war is going to happen. Who will win is an interesting question though.

  16. Notsofast says:
    @meamjojo

    the only ethics israelis have are bloodshed, thievery and genocide, you know the kind of morals taught to you, by the god of israel (that you don’t believe in).

    as far as ethnics go, all ethnic pretenders should get the hell out of palestine.

  17. Wokechoke says:
    @Altai3

    I don’t know if the Egyptians have the stones for it, but shouldn’t they put a few shots across the Jewship’s bows now? Sisi is implying he’s ready to start shooting.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  18. Wokechoke says:
    @Altai3

    That’s my point about someone like Max Blumenthal. These people, Jews more accurately, who claim to oppose Netanyahu won’t go so far as to assassinate him even though they say he’s a Genocidal Vampire dragging their folk into perfidy. No authenticity even when they have an argument among themselves.

    Assassinations were a dime dozen in the third world. Blumenthal (Jews against the Genocide) is more in consensus with Netanyahu than he’d have you believe.

  19. This is one of the smartest pieces so far concerning this war. Rall has never been one of my favorites, but either I’ve been wrong all along or this is an unusually insightful moment for him.

  20. SafeNow says:

    China built a gigantic hospitals complex in 8 days, when Covid struck. (You can do a Google image search of still images and also time-lapse videos showing the construction, if you are not familiar with this.). This provides a frame of reference for what is doable in Egypt if the political will and $1 trillion or two are available (= Mideast couch change) So, don’t think: “upgrading that darn N.Y. airport!” or “California bullet train!” Think: China hospitals. Okay, so it wouldn’t be 8 days. But it wouldn’t be 50 years either… especially if you sweeten the deal by giving everybody involved a Rolex or a gold-chain necklace, their choice. Hey, those were metaphors! (Or maybe not.)

    • Troll: JPS
  21. You left out one key point, Mr. Rall: the enormous, untapped oil reserves off the coast of Gaza. Currently, under international law these are the property of the Palestinians. There is no way greedy Zionists will allow this situation to last.

    The only solution is an approximate return to the original 1947 division of the Palestinian Mandate with appropriate adjustments to allow for a coalescence into two states with more or less reasonable boundaries. This will likely involve splitting the Jewish state into two pieces with a guaranteed corridor allowing communication across the Palestinian state. Beyond this the Jewish state should be financially responsible for repairing all the death and damage they’ve caused to Palestinians and Palestinian property and infrastructure across the past seventy years.

    I’m joshing you, of course. Before the Zionists will submit to any just and equitable solution they will wage war against the world with the nuclear weapons they got from Zionist traitors in the USA, the so-called “Samson Policy”.

  22. While annexation is certainly the objective, I don’t believe the Israelis intend to murder all the Palestinians or expel them into the desert by force. Israel is already facing severe international opprobrium; such a radical move would turn it into a pariah state. Even the U.S. would sever ties.

    Very funny.

    Israel could nuke Chicago and the U.S. would not sever ties.

  23. “even the US would sever ties”.

    Haxo stopped reading right there. The Zio-Jews don’t care a fig about “international opprobrium”, and the D.C. ZOG will continue to do whatever the ZOG in Jew-occupied Palestine tells them to do. Nakba 2.0 remains very much on the Gaza menu. Followed by Nakba 3.0 from the West Bank. In fact, given the manner in which the Izzies have cornered themselves, there’s little else they can do….other than disintegrate now instead of later.

  24. meamjojo says:
    @Wokechoke

    We’ll cut off his military supplies, parts and maintenance if he takes any shots at Israel.

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
  25. meamjojo says:
    @Unzville Mayor Peter Belgoody

    “Israel could nuke Chicago and the U.S. would not sever ties. ”

    Just like Trump. 91 counts against him. AT least 4 major lawsuits. And people still want him as president. Who knew?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  26. @Notsofast

    there will B no “2-state solution”. The Izzies are well aware that any such Palestinian state’let would be an irredentist organism fixated on getting back all the land the Jews stole from them in 1948/67 ff. There will B Izrahell, or there will B Palestine. Not both.

    “Israelis need to start making babies”. That will never happen either. Jewesses are indolent, sensual creatures who like 2 f*ck, which is very easy:

    http://seductivejewess7.com

    Parenting, OTOH, is hard work.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @RadicalCenter
  27. This former Marine makes a great point when asked if Israel has the right to exist. He said it has a right to exist as a fully democratic nation where Palestinians under their rule are treated like equal citizens, but does not have the right to exist as an apartheid state.


    Video Link

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  28. Notsofast says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    “israelis need to start making babies”, haxo stopped reading right there, but apparently haxo stopped reading in the third grade, because what i actually said, was “palestinian israelis” (palestinians with israeli citizenship and voting rights). if what you say about your women is correct (and i see no reason to doubt your expertise on this subject), then my scenario is even more likely to succeed.

  29. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:

    Yeah, this is nice, not bad at all for Rall, and was no doubt diverting to dream up, but it is neither here nor there. Rall wears himself out trying to relate Rome Statute Article 7§1 b and d in terms of Israel’s intent. The relationship is very simple. They are crimes in universal jurisdiction.

    https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/RS-Eng.pdf

    Rall is telling us why but we don’t need a motive. The elements of crimes stipulate that the Izzies knew what they were doing.

    https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/NR/rdonlyres/336923D8-A6AD-40EC-AD7B-45BF9DE73D56/0/ElementsOfCrimesEng.pdf

    Part of our statist brainwashing is political science, which fixates on means and intent. This is so-called realism. Its disfavored alternative is called “idealism,” statist word salad for rule of law. Funny how nobody applies this dichotomy to ordinary Joe Blow crimes. Then we would be discoursing on and on why John Wayne Gacy used his small business, clown makeup, and trick and real handcuffs to facefuck boys and strangle them and bury them in his crawlspace without ever saying he is a murdering facefucking homo, put him away.

    John Wayne Gacy is a murdering facefucking homo. Israel is hostis humani generis. Put em away.

    Pro tip: it really is easier just to RTFM!

  30. @Observator

    Must we always trot out Hitler as the incarnation of every one of our worst fears or to make points we think we need to emphasize? The allies dropped more bombs on Berlin alone than Germany dropped on all of England in the entire war.

    I totally appreciate your point. I deliberately referenced Hitler’s motives which were (at the time) not out of the historic norm (for great European powers) nor seen as politically incorrect during that bygone era when Whites dominated the globe.

    “Hitler sought the same endgame [ridding himself of an outgroup] but he was bombed into oblivion by the good guys and then blamed for everything bad that happened.

    I injected the facile term ‘good guys’ (to describe The Allies) as an ironic reminder of WWII’s moral ambiguity.

    After all, the case can easily be made that Churchill (and the City of London) the Roosevelt Administration, and commies (inside the USSR and elsewhere) were more responsible for WWII than Hitler and the Axis powers. And the Allies killed far more civilians than did Hitler. (I do not accept fraudulent Holohoax figures.)

    Zionism and Naziism are very similar. But Hitler’s plan to transfer/expel Jews (into Palestine) was more reasonable than what we now see happening in The Occupied Territories after 75 years of Israeli domination.

    Indeed, Israel could have a Jewish state (with full recognition by the entire Arab world) if it would simply accept its pre-1967 borders. But Israel has repeatedly said ‘NO’ to this reasonable offer by the Arab League.

    Thus, Israel is choosing war and occupation, even though the native Palestinian Arabs were never guilty of lording over Jews in Israel/Palestine the way that Jews were dominating/exploiting Germany prior to Hitler’s rise.

    Ironically, organized Jewry again dominates the German mind today while it simultaneously exploits German industriousness and German prosperity. Sad situation.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
    • Thanks: PetrOldSack
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Liosnagcat
  31. meamjojo says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Who cares what some random, former marine thinks?

    There is ZERO chance that Israel will ever embrace the mass of Palestinians as equal citizens. It would kill the idea of a Jewish state, a Jewish homeland.

    Palestinians better try to move to Jordan. Israel is going to remove them from Gaza and the West Bank one way or another.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @getaclue
  32. Forcing the population of Gaza to flee by destroying the territory’s infrastructure is the war crime of ethnic cleansing, defined in a U.N. report on the collapse of Yugoslavia as “rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area.”

    That is what real estate public developers do in a polite way all over the West. New times, new methods, Gaza is scaling urbanization, plan-development, into more modern methods. In a anthropogenic world, humans some-how must take charge of the tasks that were delegated to nature.

    First demolish, raze to the ground and remove the top-soil. Then pillor in the high-rises at a price the group that is envisioned to occupy can pay for. Antwerp, Gaza, same thing, only Gaza is the more efficient project.

  33. Eric135 says:

    Germany was bombed into rubble at the end of WW II. Its infrastructure was completely destroyed. For two years, the Allies did nothing to improve the situation. They went out of their way to make it worse. But the Germans survived. There’s no reason to think the Palestinians won’t. Israel is already making concessions.

    I believe Israel is going to die the “death of a thousand cuts”. It has been propped up by the United States, but the U.S. is tapped out. We’ve blown our money and credibility on twenty years of wars for the Jews. We have little more to give. We are no longer the world hegemon. Most of the rest of the world doesn’t give a shit about the Jews. After sanctioning 40% of the countries in the world, the only friends the United States has are other English-speaking countries. But they, too, are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.

    Whatever favor the Jews had with the Russians is now gone, thanks to the anti-Russian war in Ukraine, which was engineered by the Jews. Vladimir Putin now considers it Russia’s “sacred duty” to defend the Palestinians. Erdogan in Turkey has indicated his readiness to crush Israel with his superior Turkish army. Iran has the missiles to bomb Israel to rubble. But no rash military moves are likely to be made in the near term. If Israel is foolish enough to use nukes, Putin will reciprocate in kind.

    I see the possibility of another Arab oil embargo hitting the West in short order. This will send the price of oil up by two-thirds. Inflation in the U.S. will get even worse. Europe — already suffering from the loss of Russian energy — will not get the needed rescue from the U.S. in time to prevent a major collapse.

    Western leaders can’t defend the Jews without making war on their own constituents. Yes, they can get away with screwing their own people for a long time, but not forever. At some point, the two-state solution is going to be imposed on Israel.

    In the meantime, Palestinians relocating to the Sinai Peninsula (unlikely) is no gain for Israel. It’s a loss. Israel can’t control the Sinai Peninsula. And Egypt, even under Sisi, is not likely to intervene. The Palestinians will get better rockets and shoot them with impunity into Israel. If Sisi does intervene, he’ll face a revolution. Viva Palestine!

  34. You left out one key point, Mr. Rall: the enormous, untapped oil reserves off the coast of Gaza. Currently, under international law these are the property of the Palestinians. There is no way greedy Zionists will allow this situation to last.

    …if quantified as substantial, that would do in itself to “remodel” Gaza. And Israel, fed and nurtured by the International Jew will have it’s way.

    Moral arguments, less legalese objections, internationally are trivial. A barking dog (all of the worlds nations, organizations, ngo’s) does not bite.

  35. @meamjojo

    Uh, those 91 counts? The very instantiation of the phrase “Trumped up charges”.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  36. meamjojo says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Of course. I would expect nothing more from someone with the intelligence of a 10th grader, which is the core of Trump supporters.

  37. Make no mistake about it. Israel is out to kill people! Genocide Joe and Psycho’ killer Nutandyahoo are just itching to get on with their mass murdering, but hey the holidays are coming up. All the joy that was brought on by the release of hostages and prisoners is heart warming. The world would hate to see the good vibes get squashed by somebody suddenly shorting out the ceasefire. All who embrace humanity should want to see the ceasefire continue on indefinately, and maybe set a stage for some real peace. Anyway, whoever starts shooting first and breaks the current ceasefire will be a real Grinch stealing Christmas from the world.

    • Replies: @Anonymousrgc
  38. Rall wrote:

    Israel is willing to kill the people. But they’re really out to kill the buildings.

    I’d alter that to

    Israel is delighted to kill the people. But they’re really out to kill the buildings.

    In the very short term, this is a clever scheme by God’s Favorite Thieves, Murderers, and Torturers.
    Looking out just a bit further, things get chancy. I’m a far-away Protestant in the nowhere state of Indiana, USA, and I’m in a more or less constant rage these days. The fury of much closer and far more numerous Muslims likely exceeds my own level of resentment. In my opinion it would be Right And Proper if ocean-going ships start having all kinds of trouble when they’re going towards or leaving the shithole state. If a great many nations start forbidding landing OR flyover rights to airplanes going to or from the Apartheid state. If no decent people on planet earth would willingly purchase anything from that blood-drenched Criminal Settler state.

    I’m going even more into daydream territory now, but the endless US Tribute $$$ payments sent to the slimy little Zionist state ought to be redirected to the Palestinians – wherever they end up. And for as long as it takes them to rebuild.

    Genocide Joe ought to spend the rest of his wretched life worrying about being sent off to a war crimes trial. (Putting on my prophesier cap for a moment, I can already declare that the semi-senile old bastard will fare VERY badly in future history books.) The Congressional Cheerleaders of mayhem in both Ukraine and Palestine (both parties) ought to be thrown out of office.

    Back to reality, but even those few moments of imaginging have left me in a notably better mood.

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  39. Trust Fund Nation: By Way Of Greed Thou Shalt Do War.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/unspoken-objective-israel-wants-to-confiscate-gazas-offshore-gas-reserves-which-belong-to-palestine/

    .☠️ The Fog, Fantasy, Futility, and Foolishness of Rothschild Wars ☠️.

    Video Link

  40. Mactoul says:

    If the Gazans wanted a bourgeois life, they could have started by not being enthusiastic about Jihad.
    Islamic State is not consistent with bourgeois life.

  41. Simon D says:
    @Altai3

    I didn’t know beaches were flammable.

    • Replies: @Legba
  42. Zane says:

    The Jews did a similar demolition job in New York on 9/11.

    • Agree: Pablo
  43. Israel and Italy have already inked the deal to make money from the Gaza gas fields; this is about the money.

    Hamas Isn’t The Target, It’s The Excuse by Ms Caitlin Johnstone

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2023/11/27/hamas-isnt-the-target-its-the-excuse/

    This isn’t a war against Hamas. It’s not a war at all. It’s a military operation to facilitate an ethnic cleansing.

  44. ghali says:

    What a stupid and monstrous title of an article. Israel objective in Gaza was and remains to kill the children. This has been repeated many times by many Israeli regime officials. More than 17000 Palestinian civilians, including 4000 women and 6300 children have been needlessly killed. It does not make sense and you cannot win war by killing women and children unless the aim is Genocide, a real in broad daylight holocaust.
    “… Israel is actively targeting civilians in a gleeful bloodthirsty campaign of genocide, trying to massacre as many innocents as possible. is the most accurate and well-researched observation.

  45. @meamjojo

    “We’ll cut off his military supplies, parts and maintenance if he takes any shots at Israel.”

    Who is this “we,” kemosabe? Israel? Or its US puppet? Or both?

  46. Anonymous[157] • Disclaimer says:

    Ted Rall’s article, https://www.unz.com/trall/israels-objective-in-the-gaza-war-kill-the-buildings/, almost makes sense.

    Right now, the only “solution” to Military Operations in Urban Terrain (MOUT) is this: don’t do it. Concrete eats troops even when the urban terrain has not been prepared by the defending forces. When the defending force has prepared and fortified the urban terrain, casualties among the attackers become much worse.

    So the forces on the offensive (which usually takes twice the casualties as the defense) finds itself in a meatgrinder, an operation that results in many casualties over a long time. Meatgrinders are a losing proposition for offensive forces from R strategist populations. That’s why the US eventually arranged for a truce on status quo ante bellum terms in the Korean police action.

    So the attacking force can destroy (using indirect artillery fire and aircraft delivered bombs), but in practice it cannot occupy. The old walled cities were just as hard to take, but if their walls could be breached, the walled cities could be taken by direct infantry assault. The infantry assault usually ended up with a low attacking force “sack”, during which much or all of the urban population was killed.

    That fails today. The opposition can feed light infantry into the urban area, and the light infantry can mount casualty causing ambushes using rubble as cover.

    OK, so Rall asserts that the attacking force (IDF) is not trying to kill occupy the urban terrain so as to kill or control the civil populace, it is trying to destroy Gazan infrastructure.

    There is an old Byzantine quote from one of their military manuals that fits here: “If your primary concern is the safety of your army, why are you leading it into enemy territory?”

    Why, exactly, does IDF have troops and armor in the rubble if it is trying keep IDF safe, that is, to minimize IDF casualties? If Israel were trying to “de-house” the Gazan population, why not keep troops out and saturation bomb the urban areas?

    So the presence of IDF in the rubble indicates that Israel is not pursuing a de-housing strategy, and is executing the classical (and somewhat mindless) “occupy territory” strategy that produced the Stalingrad battle and arguably lost WW II for Germany.

    As for the end game, I’d say that the US loses the ability to support Israel in 2024 (which looks like it’s going to be a bad year for the US), Israel loses its ability to support IDF operations, and various Islamic moves result in the ejection of the Ashkenazi faction from dominance of the Israeli government and some sort of face saving new Mizrahi/Ethiopian/Palestinian coalition government that that effectively gives the Palestinians control over Israel. The change to Israel’s internal government will prevent the Israeli execution of its Samson option. The parallel with the Union of South Africa are obvious.

  47. DogZ says:
    @mark green

    I believe targeting hospitals and refugee camps is in violation of international law. IE: a war crime. And forcibly removing the Palestinian population by intentionally displacing them is called ethnic cleansing which is also a war crime.

    If the Palestinians lose Gaza I hope they end up in America and breed like rabbits. They can eventually take over local, state and federal politics as well as the military. And then they can utterly destroy the jews.

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
  48. Yes, ethnic cleansing is the plan. Israeli intentions have been as obvious as the nose on Madeleine Albright’s face since the first bombardment of Gaza after Oct 7th. And no, the Left doesn’t have a monopoly on indignation.

  49. The author ‘s conclusions should have been obvious to any observer following even the fake media news. He must be congratulated for stating the obvious.

    That this is an unusual feat for a Western journalist reflects what, exactly?

  50. @Altai3

    They love letting him do their dirty work for them,) For the Arabs and Iranians too they see a weak Israel and weak US and an act they cannot let go unanswered. This regional war is going to happen. Who will win is an interesting question though.

    Sunni Arab states are responsible for emboldening Israel through their past and present inaction. If anyone needs to take action, to make up for past inaction and betrayal, it is these nations. Their people must overthrow the rulers and declare Jihad on Israel. Other countries, like Turkey and Iran, can join once these regimes are overthrown in support of their Jihad.

    It would be beyond stupid for Iran and the Shias to go it alone. Not only will the US intervene and bomb the hell out of Lebanon along with Israel, but if Iran is attacked the consequences would be terrible not just for US forces in the region but above all for the suffering Iranian people (which the Sunni Arabs will cheer). I think the authorities in Iran understand this and are not going to sacrifice the country to make up for the passivity and betrayal of the major Arab countries.

  51. padre says:
    @mike99588

    Judging from the history there is very slim chsnce of that!

  52. Sesto says:

    What’s next? The Israelis lay a giant sheet of asphalt to pave over the Hamas tunnel system and prepare the way for condo developments?

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
  53. boybird says:

    I can’t work out why don’t the fuckin 2.5 million Palestinians in Gaza just go ape shit enmasse, tear the fence down and start fighting these motherfuckers…..surely they don’t have put up with this shit……can they get an army of 1 million (out of 2.5 million) and start advancing on Israel and start kicking some arse….so many would supply arms from Hezbollah to Iran to Syrian and Iraq groups….why do they just stand there and get bombed to death …..doesn’t make sense…….and NO ONE has suggested this, just me…… but it is so fucking obvious

    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  54. anonymous[145] • Disclaimer says:

    conflicts are nearly all economic. so is this one, but under cover of old ethnic rivalries. the goal is the creation of what I seldom see mentioned: the proposed Ben Gurion Canal. Right through Gaza. When done, Israel has a newly created bare strip of land to build new infrastructure for developing energy sources in the Med. The pesky palestinians are gone. The world gets an alternative route to Suez to the red sea. Israel becomes a major world player. No one loses.

    Bibi is still in power because he has the nuts to exterminate thousands of Pals and get the ball rolling. All the major powers understand this dynamic.

  55. Nila says:

    We could start considering the view that Israel has been committing illegal acts since 1947, and just because the US, UK, Australia, France supports them does not mean that they shouldn’t be brought to justice.

    Israel, as the aggressor terrorist occupier committing all the illegal destruction, genocide, should pay repatriations, compensation and cost of rebuilding Gaza. Israel should be tried for war crimes and genocide for all actions since 1947, and also return all the land they stole since 1948 and compensate any Palestinian family that has had members injured, tortured, killed or in anyway illegally suffered due to Israeli’s actions.

    The whole of Palestine as of 1947-48 should be returned to Palestine and if Jews/Zionists can not come up with an agreement with the Palestinians. The Jews/Zionists should consider which other country in the world would welcome them. Just because they’ve illegally committed ethnic cleansing for 75 years does not mean they get to keep their illegal conquests and that the Palestinians should continue suffering .

  56. Bro43rd says:
    @boybird

    I think it’s obvious to most people, that humans abhor violence. Although also obvious to most people is the 10% of the population that doesn’t fit in this category usually has control of government. A conundrum for sure. Some out of the box thinking is due.

    http://www.theanarchistalternative.info/index.html

    10 minutes to look over, an hour to read entirely.

  57. @DogZ

    Nah. The Palestinians will come to the west, breed, and do the bidding of their masters – the Jews. Seems we folks from Euro -tribes are the Jews’ penultimate Amalek.

  58. GMC says:

    Great perspective from the Author – and if the Americans can’t see that the same thing is happening to Their Habitat, their open lands, their farms and ranches, , their wildlife and domestic wild life, their water and water ways, , their bill of Rights, Their Constitution, Theirs Theirs Theirs – not some foreign or corporate interests – then they will look like the Palestinian people in the near future. And this is No B S.

    • Replies: @Anonymousrgc
  59. @Sesto

    Back in the day when whatever Lord Rothchild was purchasing Palestine real estate, Gaza was considered useless desert be dug up for a canal. Could it be the new old plan? Make a bigger and better canal than the Suez Canal kinda like what the Chinese are doing in Panama.

  60. katesisco says:

    Haven’t the world’s commentaries avoided the same conclusion for Yemen, Sudan, and the tens of attacks leading to destruction in the entire MIDDLE EAST? The only country spared is Jordan, the banking center of the Middle East and US proxy.
    The extensive network of displaced person camps exist for this very reason. The oldest camp is over 30 years old, and new ones are added each day. Yet all that is known, has been known, willing used, recognized as the most effective agent to driving population out of their cites, and NOTHING IS DONE. The UN exists for bloated tyrants to strut and pour out vitriol while obscuring the continuing extinction of population centers. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

  61. @Gee Eye Joe

    “whoever starts shooting first and breaks the current ceasefire will be a real Grinch stealing Christmas from the world.”. Observation: Neither side in this war celebrates Christmas.

  62. @GMC

    American cities were destroyed between 1945 and 1975 by the American anti-christian ruling class. Read all about it in “Slaughter of cities” by e michael jones.

    • Replies: @GMC
  63. All those morons who have been shouting from top of their lungs that the Hamas is winning the war are in for a surprise of their life. It’s nothing but lose-lose proposition not only for the terrorists but also for all Gazans. The author is absolutely right when he says that Israel isn’t interested in killing the civilians (of course, the de rigueur ten times the Jewish lives has been taken care) but destroying the infrastructure which will prevent the Gazans from returning home. And Israel won’t provide or more likely, authorize resupply of building materials and thus forcing all out to Egypt (a basket case of overcrowding). That’s why I say, go to Jordan and use the resources of G-20 to build a new mega city for all Palestinians.

    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @GMC
    , @A123
    , @Poupon Marx
  64. eudion2 says:

    This is exactly what is going on.

  65. Nat X says:
    @Nico X

    It was staged in your head incel.

  66. ariadna says:
    @Aleatorius

    No, the jews will never be safe in Israel. No matter what they do, even if they kill/exile all the Palestinians, they will still be surrounded by enemies and threatened by Iran.
    The only viable solution is for them to take all they carry with them and move to Birobidjan. It is perfectly safe: no Amaleks anywhere near. Just for extra comfort they can build a wall all around their new home, which is actually the first jewish state, predating Israel (thank you, Iosif Visarionovich!)

    • Replies: @Aleatorius
  67. Pbar says:

    “Even the US would sever ties”? Nancy Pelosi has publicly implied, apparently without embarrassment, that even if America itself crumbles into dust, we will support Israel to the end.

    I don’t think a few million dead Palestinians are going to have any effect on that. Palestinians don’t make campaign contributions, they don’t own US media companies, and they don’t have a Jeffrey Epstein of their own to compromise US politicians.

  68. JTF says:
    @Notsofast

    I’m not sure when people stopped using the phrase “pre-1967” borders and replaced it with “1967” borders.

    But it seems it works…

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  69. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:

    The Ashkenazim can bomb all the Palestinians they want without feeling any sympathy/empathy for them. But, the Sun will carry out legal punishment against the Ashkenazim for their Sociopathic behavior towards the Palestinians/Gentiles. In four billion years, the Sun will become a Red Giant and burn away the nation of Israel and the entire Ashkenazi population.

    Of course, there is always the possibility that the Ashkenazim will figure out a way to prevent the Sun from becoming a Red Giant, or they will figure out a way to relocate the nation of Israel and the Ashkenazim to another planet that is at a safe distance from the Sun.

  70. Excellent article. Pretty much states what I have been suspecting for some time. There is a clear method to the brutality. The one possible flaw for them may be that communications today are very different from 1948 when they did the first round of ‘ethnic cleansing’.

  71. @Nico X

    “mongrel Muslims to the West–so they can start knifing white kids like in Ireland or set up their ‘sex grooming gangs’ raping & pimping out brainless white trollops”….Nico X needs to be the first one kniefed with his d**k cut off and put in his ugly filthy Zionist mouth and then ship him to Anatole Turkey for his rear end delight by his uber Muslim macho sheep herders! What a sick sob!

  72. This theatre is goin’ to end bad for everyone entangled in this huge Bs!

  73. Skeptikal says:
    @mark green

    “But Hitler’s plan to transfer/expel Jews (into Palestine) ”

    I don’t think it was Hitler’s plan to transfer Jews into Palestine.
    I am unaware of any evidence for this.
    He just wanted to get the Jews to leave and go anywhere else.
    But few countries wanted them.

    Settling Jews in Palestine was the Zionists’ plan.
    They worked with Hitler, and vice versa, to populate Palestine with Jews, as most European and American Jews had no desire to go there. Politics makes strange bedfellows.

    Members of the paramilitary Zionist youth group, Betar, did want to go to Palestine and harass Palestinian farmers. Which they did. They should be called Young Terrorists.

    Per Google,
    “The name Betar בית”ר refers to both the last Jewish fort to fall in the Bar Kokhba revolt (136 CE) and to the altered abbreviation of the Hebrew name of the organisation, “Berit Trumpeldor” or “Brit Yosef Trumpeldor” ( ברית יוסף תרומפלדור ).”

    Trumpeldor died here—an interesting tale of early ethnic conflict in Palestine:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tel_Hai

    The other founder of Betar was Jabotinksy, a Ukrainian assimilated Jew.

    These two men really should have stayed home . . .

    • Replies: @mark green
  74. GMC says:
    @Anonymousrgc

    Thanks for the info. I was working on Sears Towers in 1974 and said to myself – this city { that I grew up in } will kill me eventually. I left for Alaska that summer to go live with my partner from Nam – I never came back for close to 35 years and then only worked for about 4 years in the South – then left for good. I thought I saw the writing on the wall in 74 – three years after my 2 yr. service to Uncle Sam – after 35 years in Ak and moving back to the lower 48 – I knew I was right all along. But it was a real disappointment to be right about America. It still is – sometimes.

  75. Skeptikal says:

    Rall is obviously right.

    I mean, that has been obvious the whole time: the intent to make Gaza uninhabitable.

    It is a huge challenge to Palestinians and their supporters—but not insurmoutable.
    Pals have been living in refugee camps all over the place for 75 years.
    There is really not reason that refugee camps can’t be set up in Gaza.
    Buy shares of companies that make large tents and porto-potties.

    The issue of rotting bodies is horrible and also a genuine issue.

    But also not insurmountable.

    The Pals must not give up their territory. The Zionists’ diabolical plan must be defeated.

    A lot of eyes are on the Turkish flotilla. I see no reason, too, why large hospital ships and cruise liners can’t be brought close to the coast for people to live in and also to use as centers for distribution of food, clothes, books, medicine, etc. Will the IAF really bomb those?

    Call it Normandy 2.0.
    Call it the Gaza Airlift.
    The coast belongs to Gaza.
    The gas fields belong to Gaza.

  76. GMC says:
    @Aleatorius

    Well No shit — The Zionist Jews made a Law that if you leave – you can’t come back ! That doesn’t mean all the Eastern European and Russian Jews – that means Palestinians. Maybe the American Jews running the place could do the same for all those illegals in the USA – after they’re Deported. lol Never Happen because the Americans that live in other countries – are the next Palestinians in that regards. And I know exactly how they are going to do it.

  77. A123 says: • Website
    @Aleatorius

    Hamas destroyed the fresh water aquifer under Gaza thus limiting the carrying capacity of the land to ~500K. The inevitable drive for migration is merely accelerated by the current fighting.

    Israel won’t provide or more likely, authorize resupply of building materials

    Israel will let in material in a monitored way that prevents leakage to terror groups.

    However, this is only stop gap. The fresh water problem, unilaterally created by Islam, cannot be fixed. Desalinization is expensive and energy intensive. It would take a massive annual subsidy from Islamic nations to support.

    forcing all out to Egypt (a basket case of overcrowding).

    Egypt is not stupid enough to admit them in an uncontrolled manner.

    go to Jordan and use the resources of G-20 to build a new mega city for all Palestinians.

    It is not for the G-20 to decide. Islam must decide what part of existing Muslim lands will serve as New Muslim Palestine. Jordan may not be the best choice. Perhaps Iran wants them. They spent a great deal of money funding Hamas.

    Key would be making sure there is enough water, infrastructure, and other resources to support orderly relocation. A reasonable target would be ~200K/yr for 10 years to take the pressure of Gaza. After that, it could be opened up to volunteers from Judea & Samaria who want to leave.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  78. The article’s reasoning is sound. A clean-up operation will proceed following the armed phase of the conflict. What heavy machinery do the Palestinians possess? Biohazardous waste must also be disposed of, and then new construction can begin, both areas in which the Palestinians would need to rely on foreign support. If Israel rebuilds and occupies the former Gaza Strip, it gets into a situation where ‘possession is 90% of the law’ by invoking squatters’ rights. While these legal mechanisms are not absolute, they certainly give the Israeli state the basis to make a claim. They bombed Palestinian cities into smithereens and the inhabitants willingly left. Challenged in a court of law, if prior ownership can be proven, Israel may just have to pay an indemnity to the previous owners. Church property in Europe was confiscated in a similar way using laws related to mortmain (dead hands), minus the indiscriminate bombing of civilians and infrastructure.

  79. Notsofast says:
    @JTF

    that is a very good point you bring up and i had wondered about that myself, but xi seems pretty clear in his intent, vvp as well, so both the chairmen of the board and president and chief operational overlord of the new, new world order agree and like you say, seems to work.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/china-palestinian-authority-establish-strategic-partnership-chinas-xi-2023-06-14/

  80. @Aleatorius

    All those morons who have been shouting from top of their lungs that the Hamas is winning the war are in for a surprise of their life. It’s nothing but lose-lose proposition not only for the terrorists but also for all Gazans.

    You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the workings of things. A snapshot, a chapter, a short moment in time is not the final story. A battle is not the war. Thus, Round 1 in the ring is not the Final Round.

    Israel faces several trends and forces that will destroy it, for it has no antidote or contra-response. If you had been listening to seasoned, deep experience analysts, I would not have to accost you eith these remedial, and low knowledge-low experience yammerings of yours.

    -Out numbered 100 to 1
    -Out armed 5 to 1
    -Population ratio 20 to 1
    -Favorable opinion and support, since inception: -95 % of the world.

    How could you be so silly? The first minutes of the first quarter is the outcome of the game? Brush away the Cheetos and pizza pieces tumbling down your breast, sports fan.

    Your turn: what overarching advantages does Israel have?

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Aleatorius
  81. Major says:

    Uh oh. Trouble brewing at Unz Review.
    Somebody better tell Mr Rall that Kevin Barrett just wrote a column confidently asserting that “experts agree” that Hamas is winning.

    Winning. That kind of winning where your entire territory is vaporized and uninhabitable, thousands of your population are dead, and the remainder of your people are being inexorably herded to the spot where they wait for their expulsion into a vast desert.

  82. @meamjojo

    “We” will be cowering in underground bunkers in Haifa and Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, with no functioning airports or seaports and rockets and drones coming in hourly without pause. “Iron Dome” will be overwhelmed and most of the world outside brainwashed controlled USA and Europe will rejoice.

    Even if the “israeli” supremacists murder hundreds of thousands more Palestinians, as they are quite able and happy to do, “israel” will sink into debt and then poverty if it has zero tourist revenue for years on end. Well deserved.

    Stop the hate, stop the mass murder of children and women, and expel the invaders.

    FREE PALESTINE

  83. Xavier says:
    @mark green

    I’ve thought about this for a while and have come to the same conclusion. What Israel is doing is not strictly genocide, but ethnic cleansing. Genocide is one method of ethnic cleansing, but it isn’t the only one. Expulsion is another method. This has always been their preferred MO. They would happily slaughter every last Gazan if they could get away with it, it’s just that they can’t. At least not yet.

  84. @Haxo Angmark

    As his comment clarifies, he was referring to Arabs living in “israel.”

    In any event, babbling deranged cultist (“religious”) Jews in “israel” are having an average of SIX children per woman, specifically to overwhelm the Arabs they are subjugating and abusing.

    It’s the “secular” jews who have a fairly low fertility rate. “Israel” is on track to be majority “devout” cultists pretty soon at this rate, and even relatively sane and decent jews there are alarmed by it.

    FREE PALESTINE

    Punish and deport the child-murdering “israelis”, no matter how long it takes.

  85. @meamjojo

    Everyone is “some random person”, genius.

    And if the hired thug-in-uniform (“marine”) were supporting your child-murdering kin in “israel”, you’d be touting his “bravery” and military “service.”

    FREE PALESTINE

  86. Hegar says:

    https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2023/11/26/israeli-children-sing-of-gaza-annihilation-in-huge-public-relations-fail/

    2023 Nov, Israeli children sing of annihilating Gaza, was shown on Israeli state TV.

    Autumn night falls over the beach of Gaza
    Planes are bombing destruction, destruction
    Look the IDF is crossing the line
    To annihilate the swastika bearers
    In another year there will be nothing there
    And we will safely return to our homes
    Within a year we will annihilate everyone.

    They are showing their true colors openly.

    They took it down after the backlash. But the Jewish minister of “defense” has said the same, that “Gaza will never be what it was, we will ruin everything.” He is a member of the anti-White, anti-Arab supremacist party Jewish Power, which is in Nuttyahoo’s coalition.

    Jewish news anchors and politicians talk openly about mass murder of millions.

    Jews post on Twitter in Palestinian hashtags, mocking them for dying, with pictures of drinking water and electricity and food, gloating about the deprivation imposed on the occupied “goyim”.

    Jews who pretend to be your friends, opposing mass immigration to the U.S., are now doing the same thing. Repeating Israel’s lies, hiding the fact that they raid villages to kidnap children, hold them for days of rough treatment or solitary confinement, then force them to sign confessions in Hebrew, which can be used to take more land.

    They only oppose mass immigration because they have been bothered by immigrants in the streets. But they support a regime that sends Africans and Arabs to Europe. When Arabs flooded into Greece pretending to be Syrian refugees, IsraAID went there to give them maps with the route marked to Germany, with phone numbers to Soros-funded organizations for legal aid in coming up with refugee stories.

  87. Hegar says:

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/i-picture-dead-arab-disturbing-video-israeli-childrens-words-echo-indoctrination

    How did it feel to imagine killing Arabs? “I felt happy” one girl answers.

    She was one of several children who spoke about committing acts of violence in this video shot at the Israeli army museum by Israeli satirical filmmaker Itamar Rose.

    But the children’s answers – in Hebrew and subtitled in English – are serious. As they climb all over tanks, sit at machine-guns positions, or explain how to use a hand-grenade, Rose asks them their views.

    Without hesitation, the children express their readiness to kill. Asked what he imagined when he was sitting in a tank, one boy answers, “I picture a dead Arab.”

  88. Pablo says:

    It’s hard to believe that Hamas could penetrate Israel’s border. At any spot. Possible? Yes, but very unlikely. I for one don’t believe Hamas did this incursion into Israel. I think the Israeli motivation was fueled by a belief that Time is running out for Israel. Their bootlicking Lackey, the US War Machine is in decline. And Israel’s enemies are getting strong enough where Israel is quaking in their boots. Note how Israel has been warning the World of the growing threat to Israel posed by Iran BUT: note how Israel has done nothing about this threat? Despite this mortal threat from Iran Israel has declined to risk its own military neutralizing the Iranian threat. Israel wants the US War Machine to do its fighting hence the 2 US aircraft carriers sent to the region. And the ‘Exceptional Nation’ is quickly losing its Power.

  89. “KILL THE BUILDINGS”

    Excellent title, reminds me of a future South Park skit.

    Zionists IDF and ZOG controlled USUKEUIsrael round table addressing jmedia:

    We apologize for killing thousands of women and children, we were trying to “Kill the Buildings”,

    We warned the terrorists to get out, it’s not our fault…..

    Nuttinyahoo to Biden – My homie joe, we’re going to need more cluster bombs, tanks, and missiles to finish the job.

    Zion Joe – I’ll send over our strategic reserves we’ve been hoarding in case all these white supremacists and domestic terrorists here in the US get out of hand.

    Nuttinyahoo – You are a great Zionist joe, the best goy I’ve ever known next to W.

    Zion Joe – I’ll scratch your back, if you scratch mine…..

    Nuttinyahoo – ooowww can’t wait for the next sleepover…..

    Zion Joe – bring some kids, it’s going to be fun…..bye

  90. @BuelahMan

    When the Jews clean it up,the Pallies come back!

    • Replies: @BuelahMan
  91. anastasia says:

    On the money, but they like killing them too.

  92. @Nico X

    Yes to this –> “pretext for Israel to depopulate Gaza

    The author says this:

    Israel isn’t trying to kill people.

    It’s trying to kill buildings.

    People die when buildings get bombed. But killing people is not the Israelis’ goal. They’re out to flatten Gaza. Flattening some Gazans is a side effect of flattening buildings.

    First of all, you can not kill a building, and second of all Israel doesn’t care about the buildings, the carpet bombing campaign is meant to exterminate the Palestinians and kill them all, Israel doesn’t want any survivors who can sue to get their land back.

    Currently, the MSM says they are doing a hostage exchange. Today they extended the cease fire to release more hostages, the agreement is to continue the release until all the hostages are freed.

    Vox – Hamas would exchange 50 hostages — women and children who are Israeli and dual-national — with Israel for about 150 Palestinian prisoners currently held in custody, mostly women. The swap will happen in four phases, and the corridor and exact procedure are still being negotiated, including the lists of those who would be exchanged.

    If all goes to plan, Israel would commence a four-day ceasefire in Gaza and would also stop drone overflights for six hours a day. After those days, the ceasefire could be extended a day with each additional 10 hostages Hamas releases. During this period, Israel would not allow Palestinians to return to northern Gaza, but would allow some 300 trucks of aid in daily, including fuel.

    So IMO Israel will keep extending the hostage swap until all of Hamas’s hostages are released. Jewish supremacists wants all the Jews out of Gaza so they can resume their carpet bombing campaing with nuclear weapons. The US says Israel has full access to the stored weapons

    The White House has requested the removal of restrictions on all categories of weapons and ammunition Israel is allowed to access from U.S. weapons stockpiles stored in Israel itself.

    This includes USA secret nuclear stockpile – which Israel has already tapped to nuke Beirut. Little known fact is that IDF F-16 dropped a USA B-61 nuke on the Beirut harbor, the story was extensively covered by Vetrerans Today, yet completely ignored by the MSM Jew press.

    Japan was the first country to be nuked by the Jewish Supremacists who own and run the United States after the 1913 Feseral Reserve coup. The Jew hell bomb was dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on 6 August and 9 August 1945. More recently Japan was nuked again with the 3-11 Fukushima FUK U attack by Israel, that story extensively covered by Jim Stone and completely ignored by the Jewish run news.

    The Jew traitor Franklin D. Roosevelt got the United States in the world war, after promising he would not, with a LIHOP, he let the Japs attack Pearl Harbor. Many white Goyim died because of that heinous Jew traitor, who also stole our gold. FDR successor, Harry Truman, became the “American godfather of Israel” by recognizing the Jewish state 11 minutes after it was announced in Jerusalem in 1947.

    President Harry S. Truman, left, holds a copy of the Torah presented to him by Israeli leader Chaim Weizmann in May 1948. (AP)
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/MBXQDIDUN6AXZNEYXWOK6UOANQ.jpg&w=1200

    The next traitor Jew of Amerika, was LBJ, who was the prime benefactor of the assassination of the sitting President JFK, who then got us in the Vietnam quagmire, covered up the Jew attack on the USS Liberty, then illegally transferred the Davy Croickett nukes to Israel. Those nukes were photographed by Mordechai Vanunu, see here: http://vanunu.com/uscampaign/photos.html

    The point is, Jews like Openheimer created the hell bomb, and Israel has had full access to USA nukes all along, and has been using them on a regular basis in the regional wars, covered by VT, and ignored by everyone. So when marano Jew traitor Biden says Jews have full access to our weapons, understand what that means, he is authorizing Jews to drop more hell bombs on civilians.

    So anyone with a brain and some functioning neurons should suspect that as soon as all the hostages are released, Israel will finish flattening Gaza, and use nukes to route out Hamas in tunnels. Jews have been using nukes since 1945 and will not hestiate to use them on Gaza, and many top Israeli officials are already saying they should.

    According to Scott Riiter and Col. Macgregor, these military experts say the IDF has experienced heavy losses in the Gaza ground war, and also up north with Hezbollah, over 120 top Merkava tanks destroyed, forcing Israel to get the mothballed older ones back in service. Thus the next tactic to suspect, is the Israel will up the ante, and start using nukes to really flatten Gaza this time, as soon as all the hostages are released.

    THE WORLD ALLOWED ISRAEL TO FLATTEN OVER HALF OF GAZA, SO THE NEXT PHASE IS TO FINISH THE JOB WITH NUKES

    The big joke, is that the released Palestinians will soon be vaporized, they were released to a war zone where all the living are soon to be killed. The author is wrong, the strategy is to level Gaza and kill them all so there are no future claimaints to the stolen land – which is why they want the children killed especially.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/27/palestine-and-israel-brief-history-maps-and-charts

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker

    Over half of Gaza’s homes – 278,000 residential units have been destroyed or damaged
    311 educational facilities damaged
    26 out of 35 hospitals not functioning
    87 ambulances damaged
    167 places of worship damaged

  93. @Zachary Smith

    It’s a shame that the Arab leaders are just as big of traitors as the European leaders are. Saudis just want to lick European ass, hosting sporting events and gay American pop concerts so that euros will accept them as part of the “international community.” They’re just pathetic. Egypt and Jordan leaders don’t even get the commercial benefis and just betray their people on the cheap. Most of the Arab world needs revolution asap, with their leaders’ heads on spikes

  94. The world has done absolutely nothing to stop the mayhem. The world has done absolutely nothing for more than seventy years to implement two state solution. Israel has ignored pretty much all the UN resolutions without any consequence. Like Israel the Arabs wish the Palestinians simply to disappear. They will do nothing for them. The countries that supported Palestinians were destroyed. Only Iran is left but its support is limited to empty talk. After while all the furor will dissipate as it did many times before and Palestinians will be forgotten. There will be no Palestinian state. What a shame.

  95. getaclue says:

    They’re really good at killing buildings:



    Video Link

  96. Madbadger says:
    @Altai3

    That shows how stupid Mao was. While you are hauling fuel to the beach, the cat simply leaves the area.

  97. getaclue says:
    @meamjojo

    “one way or another”:



    Video Link

  98. Legba says:
    @Simon D

    Right. A guy who can burn sand would just tell the cat to jump in the ocean and the cat would obey. It sound like fortune cookie bullshit to me.

  99. Take this 1 second IQ test, complete this pattern:
    https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/INTERACTIVE_outside-images_landloss-1700221859.jpg?resize=770%2C513&quality=80

    Hint, Bibi holding the new map:
    https://electronicintifada.net/sites/default/files/styles/original_800w/public/2023-09/220923-benjamin-netanyahu.jpg?itok=WuA_hB9p&timestamp=1695419339

    Trump + Jared Kushner Abraham Accords, andnow Biden complete the Jew plan to wipe the Palestinians off the map. Come 2024, this is what Gaza could look like:

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Suetonious
    , @Wokechoke
  100. Megoy says:

    Time to expose and remove Jews from all white countries for what they have done on 9/11 and after. Like the Treaty of Versailles, make Israel/Jews pay for ALL of the damage done to Middle East countries, US, and Europe with the FAKE “war on terror” and it’s subsequent mass immigration to white countries. Make the Jews pay for all new infrastructure in all countries including new luxury homes for the Palestinians in Syria, Jordan, Egypt. The Jews will be so busy struggling to survive and meet their obligations to the world that they will have no more time for evil. If the resist, send in spies to detonate their ILLEGAL nukes in the silos.

  101. Corrupt says:
    @meamjojo

    You are the reason for anti-semitism you POS. Too bad you didn’t spend some time in an oven.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  102. Zane says:

    Anyone who points out the obvious fact that the Jews are a supremacist ethnicity who aim to control and rule the world as well as exterminate the beleaguered Palestinians is branded an anti-semite.

    And that ends the discussion.

    Today the Palies. Tomorrow the goyim.

  103. A123 says: • Website
    @Yukon Jack

    The map of Historic Palestine showing 1922 borders is much more clear.

     

     

    Why is 77% of the land not enough for Islam?

    PEACE 😇

  104. Elon Musk just sided with Netanyahu and his plans to slaughter the Palestinians. X is globalist crap.

    • Agree: Zane
  105. Notsofast says:
    @Poupon Marx

    thank you, for pointing the painfully obvious to those in need of a good dose of the truth.

    the “licking” you gave to aclitorous, put her back into her place, after having been so swollen with her ignorance.

  106. Notsofast says:
    @A123

    the pre 67 borders would give your fascist thugs 75% of palestine (of which they deserve 0%). why is that not enough for you baby murdering, jewishish supremacists, who could have peace with the middle east and the palestinians, merely by accepting the 3/4’s of palestine?

    fuck you and all jewish supremacist, mass murdering genocidal psyschopaths, as well as their shabbos goy zionists, unsuccessfully attempting to defend, these war criminals genocidal actions as “acts of god”. your days are throughly numbered. be careful what you post on line now days, defending these criminal acts, as a new day is dawning, the lawfare your kind abused, will be turned against you in the near future.

    • Thanks: Zane
  107. @Corrupt

    NO! Do not stoop to the “israeli” level of sin and hatred and degradation.

    No torture, no ovens or any such crazy nonsense.

    Charge all IDF and IAF for their intentional mass-murder of over 15,000 noncombatants thus far (about half of them children), prosecute, convict and LAWFULLY painlessly execute them as was done with some of the nazis.

    Then disarm and disband the “israeli” regime.

    Anyone who didn’t participate in the crimes against humanity directly in the idf or iaf, gets deported wherever they would like to go and will be accepted for resettlement.

    • Agree: Corrupt
  108. @A123

    There were not even NINE percent (9%) jews in the population of the area when some extremist unhinged jewish invaders started the dispossession-by-terrorism-and-murder of the native Arab people. There’s a good reason for you.

    And it doesn’t matter whether human beings being murdered, abused, starved, terrorized, and forced out of their ancestral homes belong to your cult or some other foolish cult. They are all human beings created by God with rights and dignity — not “cockroaches” or “vermin” or any other evil nazi-type slur.

    Any other disingenuous questions, child-killer?

    How “Israel” was Created:

    Video Link

    • Thanks: Zane
  109. @Yukon Jack

    The map of Israel could change as you posted; the Palestinians could also conceivably regain territory. It is impossible to predict. But we do know maps constantly change. What happened to the independent Republic of Texas? Sudan was split into two countries, in fulfillment of General Wesley Clark’s prediction. Where are the German cities of Danzig and Konigsberg? At Yalta and Potsdam, Stalin convinced his allies to let him shift the entire country of Poland 200 miles to the west. Sometimes a strongman tests the world to see if anyone will step up and stop him. The relative peace we’ve had during the past eighty years or so gives people the false sense that what we are seeing now is somehow a historical anomaly

  110. Nothing but more trouble, violence, and death on this planet earth as humans genocide other humans.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  111. Wokechoke says:
    @Yukon Jack

    I did not know that Gaza Strip was that large at one point.

    Lol.

    Fucking cheeky Jews.

  112. But killing people is not the Israelis’ goal.

    Get this communist retard off this site. Everything it has said on every subject has been maliciously incorrect.

  113. @ariadna

    Iran isn’t going to do jackshit for the beleaguered Palestinians… they’re only interested in what’s good for the Shia.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  114. • Replies: @Zane
  115. It never ends.

    • Thanks: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  116. @Poupon Marx

    “Your turn: what overarching advantages does Israel have?”

    They’re the masters of US. America is the only Hegemon. Russia and China can’t help Islam. You are commenting on a website owned by a Jew. And no amount of your showing off with meaningless insults would improve your skill to determine who rules over the world in which you’re merely a helot. Now back to the field and start gathering hay!

    • LOL: Bro43rd
  117. werpor says:
    @meamjojo

    So when these displaced persons gradually make their way to countries where they will have the votes one doubts that they will succumb to anything which smells of Jewish blandishments.

    The beautiful thing will be an exclusively Jewish state — all the easier to wipe Israel off the map without the consequence of being tormented by guilt. Imagine all those Jews clustered in one small corner of the Mediterranean Sea. Bang! Goodbye Israel.

    The entirety of Israel will be laid waste forever.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  118. Zane says:
    @Priss Factor

    The West is the new evil empire??

    Name the FUCKING JEWS!

    It’s the Anglo-Zionist empire of UKUSA controlled out of London and Castle du Rothschild that is evil to the core.

    The Jews always infiltrate and take over from within whatever empire is flexing power.

    They took over the British Empire when that was numero uno. The British Royals are crypto-Jewish plants.

    The Jewish Bolsheviks took over the Imperial Russian Empire and turned it into the Soviet Union. Who wanted that except rich Wall Street Jewish banksters?

    The crypto-Jewish Young Turks took over the ailing Ottoman empire and genocided Christian Armenians and Greeks.

    Now of course the Jews run the USA, the world’s only remaining superpower.

    The EU sucks CIA dcik.

    Face the facts.

    • Agree: Liosnagcat
  119. Lydia says:

    US Senator Chris Van Hollen Accuses Israel of War Crimes | Dawn News English

    Video Link

    US Senator Chris Van Hollen has questioned Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin about Israel’s bombing campaign in Gaza during a hearing on additional US military assistance to Israel and Ukraine.

    Van Hollen presented Austin with statistics and a personal story of loss when questioning him about Israel’s bombing campaign in Gaza.

    The senator expressed concern about the relentless bombing in Gaza, citing the number of bombs dropped by Israel in the densely-populated Gaza Strip. He also highlighted the high number of civilian casualties, including women and children, and called for the US to ensure that its support is used in a manner that complies with the laws of war and US law.
    —————–
    This is seriously a time in American history where if ordered to deploy in the Middle East, or anywhere else under Biden, the troops should stand down. Imagine fighting for that brain-dead China puppet who has single handedly started this conflict in Israel and has allowed his other proxy war in Ukraine to spiral into the depths of defeat. No way in hell I’d fight for that feckless imbecile Biden and his war mongering minions. President Trump brought on solutions of peace; Biden has brought on unnecessary war and death. Biden is a failure on every level.

    Son is with the Marines, being deployed to Nigeria? Nigeria? What the hell for?

    • Thanks: Z-man
    • Replies: @deep anonymous
  120. Charles says:

    No circumstances exist under which the US would “sever ties” with the State of Israel, none whatsoever.

  121. anonymous[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nico X

    NO its the Ghanazaition/Palestinazation of Egypt/Jordan/Lebanon/Syria etc. The same genocidal script will be implemented in those arab neighbors…Israel knows that the USA is weakening and the Holocaust Victimhood/antisemitism Narrative is no longer credible..Jews must grabbed/steal all the land NOW that they can…the UN will become irrelevant..to the Victors/ go the spoils…Hopefully Palestinians MUST return even to the rubble..and force the UN/World to support their RE/building efforts…Natanyahu already ordered to shoot and kill any palestinain trying to go North to his rubble/Home in Gaza…This is the genocide of the 21th Century..the Holocaust lost its centrality in History…the world must no longer be afraid of labels like antisemitis/Holocaust BS.Palestinians will regret no going back BUT the other arabnations will regret it much more painfully so.

  122. Skeptikal says:
    @A123

    No. the Jews should relocate, not the original inhabitants.

    This is no longer the Wild West (forcibly relocating Indians, then putting them on reservations), or the Wild East.

  123. Agent76 says:

    Nov 26, 2023 Demonstration in support of Palestine in Indonesia

    A demonstration in support of Palestine was organized in Depok, Indonesia.


    Video Link

  124. @mark green

    Hitler sought the same endgame [ridding himself of an outgroup] but he was bombed into oblivion by the good guys and then blamed for everything bad that happened.

    Your analogy is flawed:

    In the case of Hitler, Jews were the out-group. The Germans were the original inhabitants.

    In the case of Gaza, the Palestinians are not the out-group. They are the original inhabitants. The Jewish Israelis are the out-group.

    So, in the German case, an indigenous people were expelling an unwelcome invader. In the case of Gaza, the unwelcome invader is expelling the indigenous people.

  125. @meamjojo

    I can tell you about the enormous amount of flies that have spawned here in Acapulco, and some are as big as grasshoppers. The hurricane hit on the night of Oct 24th and early hours of Oct 25th. It took a full 6 days for any law enforcement to be visible, municipal, state, federal, army, navy, guard, nothing. Mexico city is less than 6 hours away yet it took them 6 days to show up. The army and the national guard arrived just in time to guard already looted stores and banks. There was no electricity for at least 7 days in parts of Acapulco, no water for at least 10 days, no transportation of any kind for the first 12 days (no buses, no taxis). Not a single store open to refresh supplies as they were all looted. Charity groups should up before anyone else providing care packages, foodstuff and bottled water. All who dream of anarchy should see what life is like when there really is no government. Almost every boat and yacht was sunk or otherwise destroyed, almost every power line pole was knocked down, and every hospital had whole floors washed clean of people and equipment. The President of Mexico known as AMLO told CNN “2000 died in New Orleans after Katrina hit. Only less than 100 died in Acapulco”. “Less than 100” is an awfully low estimate. I estimate 500-600 and if we ever get the true number, it will take a while to get, just like any truth. After a month, things are better now. The experience makes me realize the horror they are going through in Gaza as they are cornered by people who want them all dead.

  126. @werpor

    Apart from the spiritual Evil of wishing to destroy ALL Jews, just because they are Jews, you would also kill Palestinians, guest workers in Israel and others in neighbouring States. And destroy the Palestinians’ homeland ‘forever’. Insanity.

    • Replies: @werpor
  127. @Priss Factor

    Dear me-the Truth has long been intractably ‘antisemitic’. Thank God it is being so vigorously repressed.

  128. @cousin lucky

    The genocide, through ecological collapse, is now inevitable. Nothing will stop it, and the only question is how many, if any, humans will survive the coming decades.

  129. @Lydia

    I’m pleasantly surprised by Van Hollen. Always thought he was a puke (on most issues he is). I suspect he either is going to retire after his term is finished, or else he will face a VERY well-financed primary opponent next time he comes up for reelection.

  130. Lydia says:

    Palestinian surgeon recounts ordeal following Israel’s use of white phosphorus, incendiary bombs in Gaza

    Monday, 27 November 2023 5:03 PM

    Huge smoke rises from an Israeli attack on the besieged Gaza Strip on October 29, 2023. (Photo by AFP)

    A British-Palestinian surgeon has recounted harrowing healthcare-related ordeals the Palestinian civilians went through during Israel’s onslaught on the besieged Gaza Strip, which was initiated after Palestinian resistance groups launched Operation al-Aqsa Storm against the occupying entity, the largest retaliatory attack in decades.

    Professor Ghassan Abu Sitta, who traveled with Doctors Without Borders via Egypt to Gaza on 9 October to work in the besieged territory’s hospitals as a surgeon, said in a press conference in London on Monday that he had seen evidence of war crimes, including the use of white phosphorus on civilians.

    Sitta, who worked in both al-Shifa and al-Ahli hospitals in Gaza, said fragmentary missiles were used by the Israeli occupation army to attack Gaza, causing unique injury patterns and amputations.

    At the burns unit in al-Shifa Hospital, he said, some 40 to 45 percent of the wounded were children and the primary target of the Israeli bombing was residential homes.

    Stressing that incendiary bombs were used against Palestinian civilians, Sitta said he treated 100 patients with 40% of their body surface area burnt but no other injuries.

    “Phosphorus burns burn through to the inner core of the body and only stop when they have no exposure to oxygen,” he added. “So the patient would be puckered with burns that bore right into the ribs, the bones.”

    The British-Palestinian surgeon said he “increasingly” saw white phosphorous burn wounds while he worked in the besieged Gaza Strip.

    “When the land invasion happened, we started getting patients increasingly from the north with white phosphorous burns,” Sitta told reporters. “Once you’ve seen them you know what they are. The flesh of these patients turns to Swiss cheese, with black burns from phosphorous pellets.”

    Sitta underlined that a 15-year-old boy was “showered” with pellets of white phosphorous while running away which left his back with chemical burns.

    https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/27/715394/Palestinian-surgeon-Ghassan-Abu-Sitta-healthcare-crisis
    Sky News
    @Skynews

    British-Palestinian surgeon Professor Ghassan Abu Sitta says that by day five of the war, ‘half of those on my operation list were children’.

    He estimates there are ‘between 700 and 900 children with amputations of limbs’.

    https://trib.al/KBE6R0q

    📺 Sky 501 and YouTube
    Israel ‘deliberately’ targets civilians

    Speaking at the press conference, the surgeon said the Israeli military “deliberately” targeted civilians in schools, hospitals and places of worship.

    “Patients reported the wiping out of entire families and have described them as massacres,” he said, adding that there were between 700 and 900 children with amputations by day five of their visit to Gaza.

    Sitta said he had witnessed Palestinian casualties shot by snipers in Gaza and that necessity had forced them to conduct several surgeries without anesthesia, including one on a nine-year-old girl.

    At a hospital in Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza, Sitta also said he witnessed a phone call by the Israeli army to the director of the hospital, who was informed that unless he evacuated within two hours, the hospital would be targeted.

    “One of the most horrific scenes I witnessed was when, after an air raid, the dead and the wounded were brought in, members of the staff would be running frantically in the emergency department, looking at the faces of the wounded and the dead to see whether their relatives had been among the dead and the wounded,” he said.

    “In many cases their children had been among the dead and the wounded.”

    Sitta also said there was a “huge explosion” in another day and “the ceiling in the operating room fell on top of us, luckily I wasn’t injured.”

    He added, “The ambulances were on fire, some of the cars were on fire, and the forecourt, which had been lit by fire, was full of bodies and parts of bodies.”

    The British-Palestinian surgeon said 160 doctors and nurses lost their lives during the occupation’s aggression on the Gaza Strip.

    Israel waged the war on Gaza on October 7 after the Palestinian resistance movement Hamas conducted Operation Al-Aqsa Storm against the occupying entity in retaliation for its intensified atrocities against the Palestinian people.

    Since the start of the aggression, the Tel Aviv regime has killed nearly 15,000 Palestinians, mostly women and children, and left vast swathes of the coastal enclave in ruins.

    It has also imposed a “complete siege” on the territory, cutting off fuel, electricity, food and water to the more than two million Palestinians living there.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  131. @Skeptikal

    I don’t think it was Hitler’s plan to transfer Jews into Palestine.
    I am unaware of any evidence for this.

    Actually, Hitler’s government worked jointly with pre-Israel Zionists to safely evacuate Jews into Palestine starting in 1933. A book by Edwin Black (‘The Transfer Agreement’) thoroughly documents this neglected piece of history.

    https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/the-transfer-agreement-between-zionism-and-nazism/

  132. LeZ says: • Website
    @mike99588

    In view of contemporary events . . .

    A brief history of the genocides and Scientific Racism of The Anglosphere.

    The present is written in the past.

    https://les7eb.substack.com/p/genocide-and-economics

  133. Omash says:

    Mr Rally, you could be more clear by making the title” destroy the buildings to prolong suffering for long long years”. Or “destroyed the buildings to finish ethnic cleansing started 75 years ago”.

    A country with no declared borders is getting clear in people’s head, why it was kept that way.
    It is now clear that ” why there was no agreement throughout the years all the way to Oslo accord that xionazis did not believe in sticking to their last offer. Every time they offered less and less, so no agreement could be concluded.Now it is clear that they have no intention to have two state solution.

    Xionazis bullied to accept lesser land, no independence by not allowing any seaports or airports, no guns allowed. Only guns allowed were for law enforcement agencies and those guns have to be registered with xionazi authorities.
    Now they want to flatten almost every thing including Orthodox churches, mosques, hospitals, residences,industry n office real estate and leave no future for its indigenous people.They are killing children,women,elders and everyone in between, who are almost all civilians.

    What Xionazi have done is worse than nakhzis did to them.Nakhzis did not kill children as for as I know. Zionakhzis have done that.
    May Lord help the weak and downtrodden people of the world against zionakhzis and it’s backers.Amen.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  134. werpor says:

    The final solution will not be pretty. The Arab nations have all the evidence they need to justify the complete eradication Israel. They Arab states surround Israel. Which countries have the Israelis not aggressed? The entire world now understands it is the Jews whom have manufactured every major war, conflict, border war, revolution, depression, inflation and social disruption extant and previous.

    Jews are the burr under the saddle. Planet earth does not belong to the Jews despite their silly illusions. They are narcissists. They are skilled illusionists and magicians and masters of deception.
    They are liars. They are deceivers. They lack compassion for their victims. How could it be otherwise?

    Jews see the Goy as victims, as cattle, as servants, as milkmaids! Thus everyone but the Jew is a victim! Why would the slave trust his master? The slave serves the master. The master cares not for the slave; his life, his individuality, his being, his feelings, his thoughts are of no interest to the slaver.

    Expecting the slaver to behave differently than his genesis is a ridiculous folly. He cannot be different.

    But soon enough the scorpion meets its match!

    • Replies: @Zane
  135. werpor says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I am assuming there will only be Jews living in Israel — after the Jews have expelled everyone not a Jew. What else need be said? Did you read my post?

    When the Jews are paramount in Israel, and only Jews live in Israel, there will then be no conflict.

    If I never heard from the Jew again it would be marvellous. Jews are forever patting themselves on the back. I wish they would go away.

    Gresham’s Law states that bad money chases out good.

    The Jew chases out everyone else.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  136. L.K says:

    From the above article

    Shortly after Oct. 7, the IDF dropped flyers over northern Gaza ordering the population to evacuate south, into a “safe zone.” Most people complied. The IDF now controls the north.

    Last I checked there were still 100s of thousands of civilians in North Gaza.
    More importantly, the IOF do NOT control North Gaza at all, and have already suffered, by their own admission – real figures appear to be significantly higher – as many losses as they had in their failed 2014 Gaza ground incursion. Back then the IOF supposedly suffered 536 casualties, of which, at least 67 KIA. To those must be added the more than 400 IOF and police KIA during the Hamas military raid into ‘israel’, plus the dozens that were being killed and wounded EVERY SINGLE DAY by Hezbollah in ‘israel’s northern borders. The settlers in the Gaza envelope and in northern israel have all fled and don’t want to return.
    It may appear insignificant, but the IOF are extremely casualty averse, they are not the Russians, Ukrainians or even the Americans.
    So far the Zionist forces have suffered roughly the same casualties the US marines had in the second battle of Fallujah, in their Gaza incursion alone(probably higher), for very little gain in terms of military results. Most Palestinian fighters are still alive and ready to continue the fighting if need be.

  137. Zane says:
    @werpor

    Arab countries like Egypt and Saudi A are headed by crypto-Jews.

  138. I lived in the Mideast for 5 years in the 90’s, and traveled extensively through the region, including Israel.
    I was told by many Israelis that their ultimate objective was to De-Palestinianate the country, ether by mass murder, or forced emigration. This is in the here and now, and it’s called Genocide.
    A motive for Israel is the “Gaza Marine” natural gas field in the Mediterranean, off of Gaza. If Israel can drive the Palestinians into the Sinai, it will be theirs for the taking.
    The civilized world must not allow this to happen. The key factor will be breaking the grip that Jews have on the US news media, and foreign policy. This will be a daunting task, but not an impossible one.
    Even the Left Wing of the Democrat party is bailing on Israel. Israel is no more invincible than the USSR was. The moral bankruptcy of Zionism is been laid bare for all to see.
    Free Palestine!

    • Thanks: mark green
  139. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    The author conveniently left out that Gawds chozen also did the killings of World Trade center buildings including the Pentagon on 911 and blamed the Muslims and labeled Islam as a Terrorist. They went to wage Crusades against the innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Libya, Syria and now Palestine.
    Gawds Chozen people work By Way of Deception! After they are done with Palestine they will be coming for you. Moloch wants your children’s blood in order to usher in the Anti-Christ Dajjal, who will rule the world from Jerusalem.
    This cover page from 2012 Economist Magazine clearly shows Hamas on hand gliders with Satanyahoo and the word “wrath” in the middle. These Satanic Criminal Psychopath tell us what they will be doing to the Goyim. These are the same people behind 911 Terror and all other false flag events in modern history. Time to expose these Criminal Sattanist.
    https://www.economist.com/content/rough-guide-hell

  140. As a Republican voter, I really don’t understand why other Republican voters support Israel with what it is doing right now and what it has been doing since at least the 1940s. I thought that we Republicans were anti-war after seeing the government lies and the waste of life and money which came from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Ukraine. Why does anyone who isn’t Jewish support Israel?? Israel deliberately attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 and, at a minimum, knew about impending 9/11 attacks but didn’t warn us like a true friend would have.

  141. BuelahMan says:
    @Adolf Smith

    Maybe, but I doubt that is in the Israeli playbook.

  142. Corrupt says:
    @A123

    How about I come over and only stick 77% of my d*ck in your wife… or will she want the entire 100%?

  143. @werpor

    Youtube keeps sending me feeds from various nutter Judaic fundies in Israel. They HATE one another, secular Jews, bigly, and the goyim. More hatred for Christian ‘idolators’ than Moslems. Without Palestinians to kick about, they’ll soon turn on each other.

    • Agree: werpor
  144. @Omash

    The Zionazis from Herzl to Ben-Gurion to every fundie nut-case echo the Torah and declare that ‘Eretz Yisrael’ extends ‘…from the Nile to the Euphrates’. Some loonies also claim the Arabian Peninsula. And they MEAN it.

  145. @Lydia

    One of our political boot-lickers, just the other day, urged the Zionazis to ‘..show restraint’ when attacking hospitals. That ANY attack on hospitals is a major war-crime must never be said, or you will be assailed with screeching Jews and screaming Sabbat Goyim declaring you a ‘Jew-hater’.

  146. ariadna says:
    @ariadna

    No. You avoided my question so I brought you back to it.

  147. the pair says:

    right…the “israelis” get zero joy from killing people just like biden being a geriatric sack of crap and dementia meds is only a concern for “stupids”. even though they have repeatedly, gleefully and openly stated they want to kill children (among the “more okay” targets such as adult male civilians). i guess the “israeli” that stabbed a pregnant woman to death actually wanted to ruin her clothes. if the subhuman vermin known as “israelis” could expel every non-“jew” from gaza and keep the real estate intact they would. short of a neutron bomb that ain’t gonna happen so the buildings have to go but they wouldn’t go at all if they didn’t have people in them.

    pay attention when people tell you who they are. or in this case, “israelis” since the only “people” in question are those being slaughtered in gaza and the west bank. the “ummm ackshully” takes are getting old.

  148. Anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Liborio Guaso

    Yes, I read the same thing.at Jacobin.

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