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The great state of Alabama can’t have true freedom of concealed carry without a license because black people kill other black people too much.[Permitless carry bill sparks emotional debate in Alabama House committee, Montgomery Advertiser, February 9, 2022]:

Supporters and opponents of a bill to drop permit requirements for concealed weapons could agree on this much Wednesday: The bill was about public safety.

But the often-emotional testimony before the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday showed there were completely different conceptions of what that safety meant.

Supporters from gun rights organizations insisted the measure, which would drop legal punishments for hiding a weapon on a person or in a vehicle, reaffirmed rights to safety, which they located in the U.S. Constitution and at times in the will of the divine.

“In Alabama, the ‘We Defend Our Rights’ state, we want people to prove and show papers that we are allowed carry weapons in self-defense, or we are a criminal,” said Eddie Fulmer, president of Bama Carry, a gun rights organization. “Are we so low that we must ask permission to exercise the right of self-defense given by God alone and protected by our founding documents?”

But opponents, who included law enforcement officers, government organizations and one trauma surgeon, said the bill would allow people to legally travel with loaded weapons in their cars and deepen a crisis of gun violence in Alabama. Ja’Mel Brown, a Montgomery activist, held up photos of Keiauna Williams, a 15-year-old struck and killed by a vehicle while trying to flee gunfire in 2018, and Ceyeria Lee, a 13-year-old shot and killed in 2020 as a relative was showing off a firearm.

“I know you all aren’t going to say it, but I’m going to say it: it’s a Black and white issue,” said Brown, his voice rising. “And how is it a Black and white issue, Mr. Chairman? Because on one side, you’ve got a group of people complaining about their rights, like a child playing with a toy. And on our side, you’ve got 38 killings in the city of Montgomery, Alabama, Black on Black crime, and we’re talking about some damn rights.”

The committee did not vote on the legislation on Wednesday. A vote is expected next week, along with potential changes to the bill.

So there you have it. White people don’t shoot each another enough in Alabama to demonstrate a need to keep them from being disqualified from not needing a permit to conceal carry. Meanwhile, virtually every fatal and nonfatal shooting in Alabama involves a black suspect, thus why concealed carry shouldn’t exist without a permit because of blacks.

Let’s face it: the Bill of Rights had nothing to do with Africans in America and is virtually nullified when you add blacks to the mix. Freedom or blacks.

What do you choose?

 
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  1. Baxter says:

    Bwa ha ha ha ha. I am an Alabamian and familiar enough with Montgomery to know just stay on the interstate when passing through. There isn’t anything there for you, stay away. The city has something like two oral surgeons and they are backed up. The city needs another one but nobody wants to move there. We have counties in Alabama that haven’t even one dentist. I can understand a county somewhere in Wyoming lacking a dentist…but in Alabama? There is a reason…

    • Agree: magilla
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  2. If the government can ban CCW, then it can ban pink underwear.

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  3. MLK was turned down for an Alabama permit. These guys would have been, too, had they been in Montgomery or Birmingham. Now it’s impossible in today’s Heart of Dixie.

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/568adfd71f0000a101e9ce59.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale&format=webp

    And on our side, you’ve got 38 killings in the city of Montgomery, Alabama, Black on Black crime, and we’re talking about some damn rights.

    As if his people haven’t been doing that for the last hundred years!

    …thus why concealed carry shouldn’t exist without a permit because of blacks.

    “Thus why concealed carry shouldn’t exist without a permit because for blacks.”

    There. Fixed.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    , @AceDeuce
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  5. jsinton says:

    I don’t think it’s asking too much to require people a permit for concealed carry. We already require background checks to simply buy a gun to keep in your home. Permits are required in Florida, but it doesn’t stop law abiding citizens from CC.

  6. usNthem says:

    What a joke. As if any Alabama jogger has a firearm permit – or cares whether there is a law for such or not. So because of loudmouth, moronic joggers like ja’mel, Whites will have to keep jumping through hoops in order to carry concealed. Civilization and laws are not compatible with the negro, whose only law is that of the jungle.

  7. Western Civ, meet Lowest Common Denominator.

    “THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.” ~ “HARRISON BERGERON” by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

    • Replies: @AR in Illinois
  8. Dr. X says:

    “Because on one side, you’ve got a group of [white] people complaining about their rights, like a child playing with a toy. And on our side, you’ve got 38 killings in the city of Montgomery, Alabama, Black on Black crime, and we’re talking about some damn rights.”

    Exactly so. Blacks don’t care about your constitutional rights. The Bill of Rights was written by and for white men. The Constitution was written “for ourselves and our posterity.” Everyone at the Constitutional Convention was white.

    Your white First Amendment rights are violated because you can’t criticize blacks and you will be charged with “hate crimes” for speaking ill of them. Your right to freedom of assembly is violated by forced integration in schools and businesses. Your white Second Amendment rights are violated because blacks casually kill each other the way they do in the jungles of Africa. Your white Fourth Amendment right to be free from search and seizure is violated because blacks carry weapons and drugs. Your white Fifth Amendment right to private property is violated so that blacks can enter your private business — and steal.

    “Rights” and “freedom” are white concepts, not an African ones. Freedom cannot not work without intelligence, discipline, forethought, responsibility, and self-restraint.

  9. HT says:

    Blacks are way too irresponsible and lack the intelligence and impulse control to have constitutional rights. Look what they have done to the liberty we have given them. All they really want is more free stuff, more promiscuous sex, and more freedom to commit crimes. Whoever thought blacks could live as whites do was sadly mistaken.

    • Agree: Adolph 2nd
    • Replies: @loren
  10. magilla says:

    As if joggers were ever worried about minor things like carry permits and license plates. But in this case, joggers are the proverbial broken clock, right twice a day, or blind pig finding its acorn.

    Getting a permission slip from Big Gov to exercise a fundamental right like carrying the means to protect myself is bullshit, kind of like getting a permission slip to pray or speak freely.

    As a citizen, I am well within my natural rights to carry a firearm without the express approval of the state. And in my personal life I do–I don’t have and won’t have a CFL. If I think I need to carry, I carry. No need to have my info on file so it can be leaked to the newspapers or used to round up potential troublemakers.

    What isn’t said in the article is that opposition to the measure from law enforcement is mainly due to economics. County sheriffs get to keep the license fees, or at least most of them, in Alabama. Liberalizing carry laws hits them in the pocketbook. Any of them with a lick of sense knows it does nothing to prevent crime.

    • Replies: @GunsRfun
    , @John Johnson
  11. loren says:
    @HT

    like aborigines. IQ 60 ish. when they are not eating their babies, they drive cars but wont maintain the cars.

  12. RonaldB says:

    Keep in mind the original ten amendments were meant to apply only to the federal government. At the time of the framing of the Constitution, no one could imagine a state government limiting the right of their citizens to bear arms. Also keep in mind that, like it or not, blacks were brought to the American continent by whites.

    I see nothing particularly unconstitutional (in the original sense) for a state (not federal) government to authorize a carrying permit requirement for regions in the state…such as urban areas with a large black population. This would make it easy for the police to control gun carrying by convicted criminals, and would not be overly intrusive for law-abiding citizens. Blacks and whites without criminal records could obtain carrying permits, and crime would go down. Law-abiding citizens of both races could protect themselves and would be given an edge because police could easily determine who is permitted to carry a gun and who isn’t.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
  13. magilla says:
    @jsinton

    I don’t think it’s asking too much to require people a permit for concealed carry.

    It is. You have a natural right to defend yourself, that should not be at the whim of the morons voted into office every few years.

  14. @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Thank you. That was a very enjoyable short story. Written in 1961, it is almost prophetic because of how things are going in the world today.

  15. Black on black gun crime exists with current onerous gun laws already in place. The criminals obtain their guns illegally, and frankly, more cheaply and easily then someone trying to obtain one through the current legal process.

    The hard-gore anti-gunners desperately want something completely impossible, and that’s for all firearms to be made to disappear from the planet. In their relentless pursuit of their impossible goal, they punish the citizen victims of illegal gun use by leaving many unarmed to become a statistic of illegal gun crime, while achieving zero deterrent effects on criminal gun crime.

    Let’s try punishing the law breakers instead of the citizen victims.

    • Agree: Lancelot_Link
    • Replies: @Rooster12
  16. GunsRfun says:
    @magilla

    I do think that the possibility of a potential victim actually being armed AND prepared does impact the predator as he is out hunting prey.
    There is however, a big difference between having a firearm on ones person and actually being armed. I believe it was Colonel Jeff Cooper who said owning a firearm no more makes you armed than owning a guitar , makes you a musician.

    • Agree: magilla
  17. By all means, let them go. Mitigates the load on the police.

  18. I tried to go with these Constitutionalist, GUNS GUNS GUNS people after I fled immigration, racial anarchy. It just doesn’t work.

    Having anything goes guns, with no permit requirements is pretty much the same as having no borders, no immigration restrictions, or letting the Black criminal welfare underclass do whatever they want with…

    Everything.

    Guns
    Sex
    Drugs
    Looting

    It’s a fantasy that White patriots with GUNS GUNS GUNS will shoot down all these Black and MS13 gang members rioters.

    Look at all the Antifa BLM riots in 2020. 2nd Amendment guy rights types effective used their guns like 3 times and even then Kyle R was viciously persecuted.

    We need sensible gun control like under NYC Mayor savior Rudy Giuliani. Stop and Search!

    Safe, clean civilized places like Singapore have strict controls on everything that matters.

    Strict immigration controls
    Strict peeing and pooping controls
    Strict controls against hard drug trafficking – they execute the likes of George Floyd
    Strict gun control
    Even strict laws are rules against gangster Rap Music.

    Please everyone read Amren’s best article

    “Don’t Write Off the Liberals”

    Margarette Sanger was right.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  19. @jsinton

    Yep.

    Anything goes guns, GUNS GUNS without permits – this is another bad part of anything goes Libertarianism.

    Because when anything goes….

    Everything goes.

    • Replies: @usNthem
  20. Everyone knows the problem with gun violence in Canada today is a non-White immigrant problem. As demographics change, Canadian liberals in government want to disarm everyone, like Australia, Britain or New Zealand. White citizens have to be disarmed because Somali immigrants shoot each other too often.

  21. @Dr. X

    Your white First Amendment rights are violated because .. “hate crimes”

    We’re not there, yet. Fortunately, there still needs to be a “proximate cause” (i.e. a “real” crime) upon which to hang the HC “enhancement”. The legal theory surrounding a “hate” crime is highly dubious, anyway.

    If A murders B, then A’s motives are relevant within the broader scope of the case. But the crime is not A’s feeling about all those who share attributes common to B. The government does seem to want to flip the legal theory on its head, however: The crime is that A hated ‘All B’s, and the murder was incidental.

    Your right to freedom of assembly is violated by forced integration in schools ..

    Public school districting is segregation. Compulsory attendance is force. The way to solve those government problems is to a_p_e, not to herd kids onto gov buses so as distribute them around the district, in a final concentration acceptable to gov bureaucrats.

    .. and businesses.

    It’s ridiculous how the lawyer-judges allow those suits against religiously conscientious bakers to move forward. Get the lawyers OUT of the legislature.

  22. @magilla

    It is. You have a natural right to defend yourself, that should not be at the whim of the morons voted into office every few years.

    I really doubt that the the founding fathers would support allowing Blacks to carry at whim, especially given their private writings on Africans.

    Blacks as a group simply aren’t responsible enough for permitless carry and everyone (including liberals and Blacks) knows it. Jefferson would have been horrified by the idea.

    Permit systems make sense.

    Submit your fingerprints and pass a background check. Really not a big deal.

    Libertarian ideals are based in race denial. If anything they undermine the 2A in the long run by giving the left examples of why citizens shouldn’t have guns (by using Blacks).

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  23. Rooster12 says:
    @GrimFandango

    The MSM has been successful in changing the narrative from black-on-black crime to “gun crime”. I heard an old White liberal the other day lamenting all the current gun-crime, saying something must be done… yet they would be the first to bring more of the very same people committing the “gun-crimes” to their city.

    I don’t think our differences are reconcilable at this point. There are too many people who just can’t, or won’t see the reality of a situation, and can be swayed by any illogical narrative. Geographical Balkanization must begin soon within the US, or the entire country will completely dissolve into a 3rd world dystopian police state. At least once some physical borders are established, the fighting can begin in earnest, and a march toward a resolution can commence.

    Our future involves great pain no matter which path we choose… we may as well choose a path where we stand up and fight for our families and ourselves.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
    • Replies: @Goddard
  24. usNthem says:
    @annonymous

    The problem is, as I mentioned in my earlier comment, a permit required to carry concealed means nothing to blacks, particularly the urban dwellers, who will acquire them illegally. All the permit system does, as all gun ownership restrictions, is make it more difficult for law abiding Whites to carry concealed. The exact opposite should be the case coupled with extremely harsh penalties for possession of illegally acquired firearms, particularly utilized in commission of a crime.

  25. @magilla

    Getting a permission slip from Big Gov to exercise a fundamental right like carrying the means to protect myself is bullshit, kind of like getting a permission slip to pray or speak freely.

    It’s a legal right enshrined by people that didn’t think Blacks were merely Europeans with a tan. The founding fathers would think that modern libertarians are nuts to be letting Bantu carry 21 round 9mms.

    What isn’t said in the article is that opposition to the measure from law enforcement is mainly due to economics.

    No the opposition is based in experience. Anyone that has actually been around Blacks on the frontlines will think this is a stupid idea.

    Any revenue lost from concealed carry permits will be miniscule compared to the increase in losses from negro shenanigans. At least one cop will be killed over this.

  26. loren says:

    RIVERSIDE, Mo. (AP) — A federal judge declined to lift the expulsion or suspensions handed out to four suburban Kansas City high school students who were disciplined for their involvement in an online petition to “start slavery again.”

    U.S. District Judge Stephen R. Bough acknowledged in his ruling Tuesday that the four students from Park Hill South High School will likely suffer harm if they aren’t allowed to return to the school immediately or ever, in one student’s case. But he said their lawsuit was unlikely to succeed on the merits of its claims if the case went to trial, radio station KCUR reported.

    Arthur Benson, the students’ lawyer, said the incident resulted from “youthful bad judgment” that originated among Black and biracial students.

    “Three whites boys in similar bad judgment wanted in on the joke, intended only for the freshman players,” Benson said in an email. “This bad judgment was punished as heinous acts that no one now still claims them to be.”

    In his order, Bough said that public interest weighed in favor of denying them reinstatement.

    He noted that the incident garnered national attention and prompted some parents and teachers to express concern about students’ safety.

    Although Bough said the 14- and 15-year-old boys didn’t intend the petition to be circulated beyond the team, the petition caused “substantial disruption” at the high school and in the district that justified the discipline.

    Benson said he had not yet decided whether to appeal the ruling.

  27. Ja’Mel Brown is the typical run of the mill black idiot activist. He wants whites to be deprived of their rights because blacks can’t control themselves and act civilized. Reminds me of the uproar when a shopping mall wanted to ban black teens because they were the ones constantly fighting, stealing and causing trouble. Blacks screamed that this was racist and unfair, so the mall banned all teens from entering unless accompanied by an adult. Everyone had to suffer because of black idiocy and dysfunction. It also reminds me of when blacks were howling because their children were getting into more trouble at schools because of their horrible behavior and that was declared racist too. So, whites had to be punished at equal levels (despite not committing offenses at the same level) just so the groids wouldn’t look so bad in comparison. That meant that Billy (who threw a paper wad at someone) had to get into as much trouble as Jontavious who assaulted someone and bashed them in the back of the head with a chair. See! Dem white kids be jus’ as bad and be gettin’ in jus’ as much trouble! It ain’t jus’ black kids!

    Is it justice to punish all groups simply because of the behavior of groids? Hell no. Only groids should suffer the consequences of their behavior no matter how much they scream, howl and protest about it. So, in that regard, if permitless concealed carry results in more uncivilized groids blasting their homies to kingdom come, I couldn’t care less- just keep it in the hood, bitches.

    • Agree: usNthem
  28. @RonaldB

    CORRECTION:
    1) Blacks were brought to The New World by Marrano jew slave traders, the descendants of whom are apparent in Charleston and Savannah. The spawn of Khazar jews are not “White”…except from a Black perspective.

    2) Blacks are of another species, not another race; grossly misplaced in human civilization. They prove this every day; a permanent, multi-generational net loss regardless of location.
    If Blacks were properly re-classified taxonomically, there would be NO Second Amendment for them and The Black Problem could be solved very quickly.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Adolph 2nd
  29. @Baxter

    I am an Alabamian and familiar enough with Montgomery to know just stay on the interstate when passing through.

    I have been in Alabama exactly once, for about a day, and I know that too.

    I also know to give Chimpcongo a wide berth.  The last time I drove through the area, I got no closer than Kankakee.

  30. @jsinton

    Concealed carry permits in Florida still exist BECAUSE of Blacks.
    They are easy to obtain by anybody that can pass a background check, which leaves out many thousands of Blacks, as well as lots of White Trash.

    Permits as a front end screen that legally restricts masses of Blacks from increased armed capability is about the only valid rationale for permits that I can see.

    I’m a resident of a State, that is legislatively considering permitless Constitutional Carry, that recognizes FL carry permits as well as its own.
    Only difference is that the FL permit is for weapons in general; my State only recognizes it for concealed firearms, but has very recently loosened up on the carrying of knives, by 2A qualified.
    Anybody outlaw per Second Amendment, most by far criminal Blacks, caught with either weapon in possession will have a ruined day, regardless of permit/permitless context.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  31. magilla says:
    @John Johnson

    And when they tell you no, then what? Happens to law abiding whites every day in California, New York, and other states.

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
  32. @jsinton

    It is asking too much. Passing that background check proves (theoretically, but not in every case in reality) that i have lived my life thus far without committing a felonious act; without have committed violence against another or stolen anyone’s property. The background check is reasonable, barely, but that is enough. Constitutional carry is the way to go.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  33. @annonymous

    Mal in se laws make sense. Don’t prohibit gun owners just for the sake of prohibition. Prohibit criminals from having guns because they’re criminals.

    As an example, in 1990s Richmond a law was passed that anyone using a firearm during the commission of a felony would go away for 5 years on strike ONE. I’m pretty sure that’s how it went. And gun crimes became a lot more rare. Imagine such a law today. We need to get rid of the Soros district attorneys so that good laws like that can make everyone safer again.

    • Replies: @usNthem
  34. magilla says:
    @John Johnson

    Do you really think blacks don’t carry concealed because they can’t get permits? Or that a jogger willing to kill a cop is waiting for constitutional carry before he jams a Glock into his waistband?

    Get real. Joggers, especially criminals, carry concealed every day everywhere they live.

    You need to read what law abiding Alabama gun owners have to say about the law. They agree with me–the current permit situation is nothing but a cash cow for local sheriffs.

    It bears repeating–criminal blacks carry concealed already, whether they live in New York or Montgomery. They aren’t waiting for a permission slip from the governor to do so. They never will. The idea that their monkey shines will increase after constitutional carry is absurd.

    • Agree: usNthem
    • Replies: @eah
    , @John Johnson
  35. @loren

    I just posted about this very troublesome phenomenon, i.e. schools meting out punishment, and [state] judges disavowing their responsibility to stop it. Of course when a skool boots someone, it certainly doesn’t hurt him, and as in this case, works to his benefit.

  36. magilla says:

    Tennessee now has constitutional carry, but here’s a video from 2017.
    https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh1T9Aa6QlxHQWYGbM

  37. eah says:
    @magilla

    You need to read what law abiding Alabama gun owners have to say about the law. They agree with me – the current permit situation is nothing but a cash cow for local sheriffs.

    Recently there was a series of articles on al.com that amusingly confirmed a particular stereotype about the South — here’s one:

    Police in this tiny Alabama town suck drivers into legal ‘black hole’

    Click on the byline to see the author’s other articles about Brookside.

    • Thanks: magilla
  38. usNthem says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I’d rather see usage of a firearm in commission of a crime, even if not fired = immediate, no appeal death penalty. That’d even sink in for joggers – eventually.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  39. Bite Moi says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    Abolish_public_education————“If the government can ban CCW, then it can ban pink underwear”.————-I once came home from college at Thanksgiving with a laundry bag full of pink socks,pink t-shirts,and pink underwear. No,i was nether homo or transitioning. I was an 18 year old single guy. I didn’t know you couldn’t wash everything together so the big commercial washer also included a new red school sweatshirt.Mom saved the day by dying the load an inoffensive army-ish green. If i had known that mother was going to show a pair of pink “tighty whities” a to her buddies at church,i would have found my own solution to my problem.

  40. @Cauchemar du Singe

    The current problem with the CCW prmit in Florida is there is about a 6 month backlog due to so many people applying for them, especially during Covid.

  41. I explained the issue of crime to certain people when I was wrangling in Chicago. There is no crime problem, there is a negro problem. That opened a few eyes!

    • Agree: Augustus, AR in Illinois
  42. This new law is going to get more groids shot by police, then the community can screech about how the gud boy who was running/fighting with the cops was within his rights to carry, and the police were wrong to shoot him.

    As much as I agree about not being on some government database that lets them know I own & carry a concealed gun, I am more against these types of everyone carrying, or open carry. The only times I open carry is when I’m out in the woods or on friends & family’s rural property. Walking around Home Depot with an open carry Glock like you’re in the Wild West is for try hards and posers. It eliminates the element of surprise and any slight advantage you might have in a situation where you need to pull your firearm. All a criminal has to do is have their gun out first as you walk out of a store and you’re disarmed, or they just shoot you first and take your weapon.

    • Agree: AR in Illinois
    • Replies: @PhilMuhCrevis
  43. @Dr. X

    Exactly so. Blacks don’t care about your constitutional rights. The Bill of Rights was written by and for white men. The Constitution was written “for ourselves and our posterity.” Everyone at the Constitutional Convention was white.

    Can you imagine trying to explain to Jefferson, Madison, Mason, et alia that the US Constitution requires working taxpayers to provide free crack pipes to the local non working negro?

  44. @John Johnson

    It’s a legal right enshrined by people that didn’t think Blacks were merely Europeans with a tan. The founding fathers would think that modern libertarians are nuts to be letting Bantu carry 21 round 9mms.

    If you tried to explain our modern ” Feed n’ Breed ” program devoted to the creation of an enormous negro underclass, the founding fathers would be horrified. They would prefer to keep their liberties, and lose the negroes.

  45. eah says:
    @jsinton

    The problem is that once you grant the state the authority to exercise discretion over who is allowed to own or carry a weapon, via political whims this can easily be abused, e.g. by expanding the list of reasons a permit can be denied, even in seemingly permissive states.

    Here is the Alabama statute:

    Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-11-75

    It gives a number of specific reasons a permit may be denied — but note this:

    11. Caused justifiable concern for public safety.

    That sounds rather vague, doesn’t it?

    I guarantee you other states have more, and more concrete, restrictions, or grant wider discretion when deciding on a permit application, e.g. if you have unpaid tax bills or moving violations.

    I also guarantee you anyone arrested for the Jan 06 ‘insurrection’, no matter how innocent and banal their ‘offense’, i.e. little more than walking around Statuary Hall, will be denied a weapons permit should they apply.

    Of course only the ‘law abiding’ will comply with the permit process at all.

    The following story from Chicago shows why no self-respecting White ought to support government having the authority to say you cannot own or carry a weapon:

    Teen attended hearing on weapons charge, then carjacked Lyft and gunned down 15-year-old, prosecutors say

    A 16-year-old boy had a hearing before a judge on a weapons charge on the same day he later carjacked an Lyft and gunned down another teen in Bronzeville — all while on electronic monitoring, Cook County prosecutors said Thursday.

    In the face of such savage gun violence by the savages who inhabit the country, never show any sympathy or understanding for a government that wants to disarm you or keep you from owning or carrying a weapon.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  46. During a visit at a local gun shop I happened to notice a large binder labeled “ Turndowns / Conditional”
    A record of firearm purchaser state/ federal background check Decline.
    A huge stack of papers.
    And I won’t be ever stepping foot in to this shop in the future because this neighborhood of thirty years is “changing”/White Flight.
    It’s a sordid scene, even the local gun ranges have taken on a certain tone and feel.
    So I say, keep the Concealed Weapon Standards I have adhered to for fourty years……. similar to my voter ID card.
    Anything to keep in place long established high standards, black screen. And by the way, many blacks agree.

  47. @usNthem

    That might be a bit disproportionate. Lol

    • Replies: @usNthem
  48. @magilla

    Do you really think blacks don’t carry concealed because they can’t get permits? Or that a jogger willing to kill a cop is waiting for constitutional carry before he jams a Glock into his waistband?

    Get real. Joggers, especially criminals, carry concealed every day everywhere they live.

    Yes there are ones that don’t carry because they think it is a felony even though it is only a misdemeanor. The ones that don’t want to catch another charge.

    They will pack and get in a shootout over something stupid.

    That is what will happen.

    Blacks and guns don’t mix. Everyone knows this but no one can say it publicly.

    Making it easier for Blacks to carry is always a bad idea.

    The term “Saturday night special” is a cleaner version of “nagger night special” which was a reference to Blacks routinely shooting each other on a weekend night over something stupid.

    • Replies: @magilla
    , @Detroit Refugee
  49. usNthem says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I know, but what isn’t with respect to joggers?

  50. @magilla

    Then GODDAMMIT you aquire them by other means. Then, remain quite about it.
    Use as a last resort when faced w/ life or death.

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  51. magilla says:
    @John Johnson

    Yes there are ones that don’t carry because they think it is a felony even though it is only a misdemeanor. The ones that don’t want to catch another charge.

    They will pack and get in a shootout over something stupid.

    So they have the foresight not to carry concealed without permission because it could jam them up legally, but once constitutional carry is approved they won’t have the foresight not to kill each other over stupidity. Is that your position?

    Did you watch the video I posted above? Urban blacks are armed to the teeth. I have to go to ghetto gas stations and I’ll tell you right now every black male under the age of 90 is armed. They rarely use holsters and their guns print like crazy.

    And I agree the origin of “Saturday night special” comes from calling weekend jogger mayhem “ninja (sic) town Saturday night”.

    That fact undermines your position entirely–blacks back then carried concealed at a time when the law didn’t permit ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons. They did then just as they do now–they armed up and went about their business regardless of what the law said or allowed them to do.

    They then killed and maimed one another over “disrespeck” and arguments over who was the better boxer, Joe Louis, Suga Ray Robinson, or Sonny Liston. And over women–the song “Bad Leroy Brown” was a case of art imitating life. Remember Leroy also carried concealed. Didn’t matter to them their guns were illegally carried, just like it didn’t matter that murder was illegal.

    But if you honestly agree with the illiterate black politician who thinks allowing citizens the means to protect themselves will lead to massacres in the street, I don’t know what more to say. So this will be my last response on this topic.

    Blacks and guns don’t mix. Everyone knows this but no one can say it publicly.

    Making it easier for Blacks to carry is always a bad idea.

    They do it anyway. I only care about making easier for us.

    Godspeed and avoid the groid.

  52. @John Johnson

    Blacks and guns don’t mix.

    Been saying that for years. Not because “rayciss” or mean . Just based on observations after a lifetime spent in and around the D.

    I’d also add, ” blacks and car keys don’t mix”.
    Again based on real life observations.

  53. Goddard says:
    @Rooster12

    Our future involves great pain no matter which path we choose …

    Sometimes I look at my young children and cringe, thinking of the world they’ll be living in.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    , @magilla
  54. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, I thought the whole point of black opposition to constitutional gun rights is to disarm Whites, not blacks. Did the black pol really mean what he said, or was he engaging in confusionism?

  55. AceDeuce says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    LOL. That picture of homosexual negro Malcolm the Tenth was taken when he was worried about the NOI taking him down, not YT. Big bad Malcolm even faked a firebombing at his house and called…the White police to come help him. That was in the last week of his life. He bailed on his wife and kids and went to stay in the NY Hilton in Midtown Manhattan. He ate in their fancy Bourbon Street Steakhouse the night before he was killed.

    I might add, while his photo with the gun certainly looks dramatic, the fact that another individual was able to take the picture rather undercuts the impression of imminent danger they were going for.

  56. Augustus says:
    @Goddard

    Yes, the world is changing and not for the better. Teach your children survival skills. They may consider it fun while young, and those lessons may very well pay off when they are older.

    I just visited a relative with 4 daughters from a previous marriage and several kids from his 2nd wife’s prior marriage. It was gun cleaning day, and they were all breaking down various weapons and cleaning them. The ages were about 8 to 19. He taught them all to shoot. That’s one skill everyone needs.

  57. Bite Moi says:
    @Detroit Refugee

    Detroit Refugee——-The Spotted owl solution——Shoot. Shovel. Then shut up.

  58. magilla says:
    @Goddard

    Never, ever despair.

    Work so you can escape the orcs and then do it. Teach your kids to be “innocent as doves but wise as serpents”. We still live in a beautiful world with lots of wonderful people. Celebrate that, and let that drive you to do what is needed to preserve it. Remember the spark of freedom isn’t extinguished–Canadian truckers are showing us that this week.

    The world “they” are trying to create is evil, unnatural, and unholy. It cannot stand anymore than Sodom did. And I say this as an agnostic–but the story of Sodom and Gomorrah should let us all know even the ancients were aware some perversions end up destroying the society that tolerates them.

    • Replies: @Goddard
  59. Goddard says:
    @Augustus

    One of my son’s favorite pastimes is cleaning my pistols with me. He loves the range, and both of us look forward to the day when he’ll be old enough to shoot. In almost any scenario for America 2022 that I could think of, I would have been teaching my son how to use a firearm.

    However decades ago I would never have desired and scarcely could have imagined the absurdities that pass for received wisdom these days and that require firm commitment and constant attention to counterbalance. Instead of reading an extra Shakespeare play or two with my son, I fear I’ll be teaching him Derbyshire’s “Talk.” I’ll have to hand him Irving Babbitt and Lothrop Stoddard to counterbalance the Maya Angelou and Tennessee Coates that public school will try to shove down his throat.

    • Agree: magilla
  60. Bite Moi says:
    @Augustus

    Augustus——–This guy sounds like “Father of the Year”. Hopefully,with 7 kids,none of them is an FBI informer.

  61. @John Johnson

    Bullshit.

    I live in New Jersey. No one gets carry permits. Very rich? Maybe. Connected to some corrupt politician? Maybe. But if I fill out the paperwork, get fingerprinted and background checked, guess what.

    Denied.

    So it is a big deal when the only people holding guns are the criminals and the only people they wish to make examples out of look like me.

    We’re at war. Act like it.

    • Agree: magilla
    • Replies: @WSG
  62. Goddard says:
    @magilla

    It’s a time for withdrawal, to go Galt.

    We are all Cincinnati now, tending our own gardens—with the big exception that, if called upon to serve, we would refuse.

  63. Becky21k says:

    Even the liberal site Vox ran an article a few years ago that noted the increased level of gun violence committed by blacks. Their conclusion, of course, was to demand more gun control for everyone. I had to laugh at it and was somewhat surprised they could admit the difference, no matter what they were using it to support.

  64. WSG says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    This is one of the many reasons why I will never live there again, despite growing up in that state.

  65. NY Girl says:
    @John Johnson

    I agree with @Jim in Jersey on this one.

    Guys, I love you, but it is NOT “turn 21 and start to conceal carry with no paperwork” (like in super-white VT) OR “submit your fingerprints and pass a background check and in a week you get your Magic Pew-Pew.”

    It took me, with my almost-a-nun background nine MONTHS to get my permit and the cost of mandatory classes and filing fees would be prohibitive to some. And the only reason I got it was that the possibility of my non-existent white boyfriend beating me to death would be a PR nightmare for the pols.

    Meanwhile, my husband has been waiting over a year for his, presumably because he’s just supposed to sit there and take an ass-kicking from the Bruthas.

    • Agree: magilla
    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
  66. @Cauchemar du Singe

    If Blacks were properly re-classified taxonomically, there would be NO Second Amendment for them and The Black Problem could be solved very quickly.
    If I had my way they would be reclassified as a form of speaking ape, a linkage between the great apes and humans.

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
  67. @Adolph 2nd

    They definitely should not be allowed near guns and car keys. They can’t handle the responsibility.

  68. @NY Girl

    Screw ’em. Screw man’s laws especially the “men” making the laws today. Arm up anyways for love of family. We are at war.

    Just don’t get caught.

  69. @Sick 'n Tired

    The only times I open carry is when I’m out in the woods or on friends & family’s rural property. Walking around Home Depot with an open carry Glock like you’re in the Wild West is for try hards and posers.

    I agree. Barring some sort of civil discourse like the Rodney King riots, openly displaying a firearm is not only unwise but IMO it’s also downright dangerous. I’ve had a CCW in Florida for years and for the most part never carried unless I was going to an ATM, but since this pandemic ramped up and the cries of judicial equity for orcs have emboldened these things, I never leave the house without a piece.

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