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The war on all professions/vocations/avocations that are deemed “too white” is nothing more than racism by any other name.

At this point, the war on whiteness is nothing more than an admission by the elites manufacturing public opinion that they want your dog to die.

Why? Because veterinarians are “too white.”[Pet Owners Are Diverse, but Veterinarians Are Overwhelmingly White. Black Veterinarians Want to Change That, Time.com, October 21, 2020]:

As a child, Tierra Price was mesmerized by Dr. Dolittle, portrayed by Eddie Murphy in the 1998 film—not only because he could talk to dogs and sad circus tigers, but because he was a person of color who treated animals. “That resonated deeply with me,” says Price, who wore an oversized white coat and carried around a stuffed Dalmatian for her first-grade career day. “I grew up thinking that I was going to be one of the first Black veterinarians because I had never seen any,” says Price, now 26.

There were no Black doctors at vet clinics near her Louisville, Ky. home or at the local animal shelter where she volunteered. Price didn’t see her first real Black veterinarian until she was 19 and participating in a veterinary program for minority undergraduates. By the time she started veterinary school, she felt like an outcast. In 2018, Price created an online networking group for Black vets just to connect and commiserate with people who looked like her. “I was going into a profession I didn’t really belong in,” she says.

Years later, not much has changed. Veterinarians are projected to be among the most in-demand workers in the next decade. As more people of all races own pets, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) predicts jobs for vets and vet technicians will grow 16% by 2029. Nearly 65% of white households have pets, 61% of Hispanic households have pets, and almost 37% of Black households have pets, according to the most recent industry data. Yet pet lovers are faced with a predominantly white world once it’s time to see a vet. Of the more than 104,000 veterinarians in the nation, nearly 90% are white, less than 2% are Hispanic and almost none are Black, according to 2019 BLS figures.

This spring, Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala., to care for her 2-year-old puppy Stokely—named after civil rights activist Stokely Carmichael—and to serve as a role model for her two children, who attend predominantly white schools. After scouring the internet and Facebook groups for Black pet owners, she finally received a suggestion from a college classmate, but the clinic was too far away.

“I have given up the search, honestly,” says Glover, 46. “It just tells me there’s more work to do.” Price, who graduated from the Virginia-Maryland College of Veterinary Medicine in May and is now a veterinarian in Los Angeles, agrees. “We have so much catching up to do,” she says.

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Stark disparities have permeated the vet world for decades, advocates say, long before George Floyd’s death in May sparked a national movement for racial justice. In 2013, the profession was dubbed the whitest in America. “It has always been a problem,” says Annie J. Daniel, who founded the nonprofit National Association for Black Veterinarians (NABV). “This was just the wake-up call.”

Despite youth outreach efforts at schools and community partnerships to grow the number of Black veterinarians, the group has barely moved the needle since it was formed in 2016. In fact, the number of Black vets dropped from 2.1% of the total vet population in 2016 to below 1% in 2019, which Daniel says is largely due to systemic racism. “In this day and time, you don’t stay that way unless you’re ignorant to the fact that diversity is good,” Daniel says. “Or,” she adds, “you just don’t care that you’re purposefully omitting a group of people.”

Anything deemed “too white” must be immediately crushed under the burden of our “purported” greatest strength — diversity. Quite a paradox, isn’t it? Vocations keeping our nation safe or our pets alive are “too white,” and thus must be undone, regardless of the consequences.

No one ever bothers to ask why our most essential vocations have a dearth of blacks… it’s just amoral for a profession/vocation/avocation to be “too white.”

 

 
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  1. “I was going into a profession I didn’t belong in “…..yep, you got that right. Notice that she sends her kids to a predominantly white school. Hmmmmm. Why would that be? Typical groid…hate whitey but want to be everywhere WE are. FTN

  2. some say being a vet is more difficult than being a dentist or MD because Vet must work with no
    way of getting answers to questions asked.

    • Agree: Raccoon
    • Replies: @Raccoon
    @loren

    You hit the nail on the head!

    It is highly cognitive, insofar as a vet relies upon observations, quizzing the owner, and usually without the assisting of immediate diagnostic pathology testing.

    Dr Shitavious has an innate fear of dogs, so he's not going to be levering open the dog's mouth to assess gum condition and coloring, is he?

    , @AKAHorace
    @loren


    some say being a vet is more difficult than being a dentist or MD because Vet must work with no
    way of getting answers to questions asked.
     
    They also have to know about many animals rather than one.

    Replies: @Censusdesignatedplace

  3. Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala., to care for her 2-year-old puppy Stokely … and to serve as a role model for her two children, who attend predominantly white schools.

    Huh, that’s weird. If Kimberly is so concerned about black role models for her children, she needn’t search high and low for a black vet. Just put your kids in a majority black school, Kimberly! Plenty of role models there I’m sure. Every TV show tells me so. And I guarantee you won’t have to search very hard to find one near Birmingham. Local real estate is cheap too.

    What’s that? You don’t want your kids in those black schools? Why are you so racist against poor innocent negroes Kimberly?

    ——

    Of course, vets for pets is nice, but veterinary science’s original purpose was the health of livestock. And farming, with its long hours, dangerous conditions, cognitive demands, and modest wages, remains overwhelmingly white. And as long as people like to eat—and who doesn’t?—it’s likely gonna remain that way. The vets who minister to agricultural clients typically share those long, difficult, demanding conditions, and do so without getting paid like some boutique vanity vet in Beverly Hills.

    There are reasons land work is so white.

    • Replies: @Thalin
    @Almost Missouri

    Just read James Herriot books. It is a super hard work. I know, I treat animals on our farm. It's white profession because it's hard profession.

    , @loren
    @Almost Missouri

    Recently a cat jumped from 3rd story. broke a leg.
    A vet in Los Angeles wanted $9000 to treat the cat.

    STOKLEY was a panther? I guess theres a wiki.

    , @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @Almost Missouri


    ...Every TV show tells me so...
     
    I guarantee that if a network were to launch a TV show this year about a veterinarian, you would see a gifted, compassionate Black! genius.

    Replies: @bruce county

  4. IIRC, US veterinarians are about 80% female. It’s a generally not very high-paying job that attracts women who really like animals. Non-whites with above average IQs can easily find more lucrative careers.

    • Replies: @Dave453
    @fnn

    Theres no way that number is accurate.

  5. I’m under the impression that there is an overrepresentation of females serving as non-farm veterinarians. Correct? (Gal vets can cuddle Bow-Wow, but not Ferdinand the Bull!)

    • Replies: @Patrick Boyle
    @Dan Hayes

    I'm not an expert of vets except that I watch "The Incredible Doctor Pol" religiously. I find it calming. If I watch Fox News too much I start getting agitated. I turn to Dr. Pol and get healed.

    As it happens he has three vets now working in his clinic and they are all women. This is a rural practice that serves a farming community. The tiny women go into the muck with the big angry cows and bulls and sometimes get kicked. They are all tough broads and seem to be very competent. If they weren't, the Web would be alive with nasty critics. Of course they edit the show. I'm sure to eliminate their mistakes. The major problems seems to be dogs getting a mouth full of porcupine quills and cows needing help birthing a calf. I don't think I've ever seen a black person on the show. It's as white as the Mike Lindel MyPillow ads.

    I used to teach Microsoft certification courses commercially. Many of the students were looking for a new career or a first career. I would get self taught computer guys who wanted to learn more, and I would get cabinet makers who thought there was more money in computers. I remember being shocked once at a graduate veterinarian who wanted to learn about networking (few wanted to learn to program). I asked her - what are you doing here? She said vets are underpaid. She also got sick of the customers who wouldn't pay for treatment and just had their pet destroyed. They never show that on TV.

    According to your stats blacks only have dogs at little more than half the rate of whites. I suspect that many of those dogs are pit bulls. Lower class males black, white or Hispanic - seem to like to own fighting dogs. I, like most whites, have a dog for companionship. I have a piebald Papillion. A very pretty and lively little guy, but naughty. The lower orders seem to want a dog as a weapon.

    I'm not surprised that there are no black vets and it doesn't bother me at all.

  6. Nobody has been stopping blacks from becoming vets except for blacks themselves. It requires them to graduate from animal medical training, and that in itself is enough to keep most of these low-IQ throw-backs from ever becoming vets. On top of that, blacks seem much more interested, as group, in torturing and killing helpless animals for amusement, or training them to kill each other to the enjoyment of orcs gambling on the winner, as the infamous Michael Vick did.

    On the topic of pets, many years ago my late father had a black cat that he named NAACP (pronounced “nay-sip”). As a kid we had a white cat named Honkie. My father said he gave the cat that name so, when it was time to feed the cat, he could open the front door to call out to us, “Go get Honkie!”

    I loved his sense of humor.

  7. My 17 year old Chihuahua mix passed away in his sleep almost 2 weeks ago. It’s been rough. When my Father took his life I never grieved; This Dog? I’ve never known such sorrow. He was always forgiving, always loyal, always there. Always happy to see me. Always wanting to be next to me. Cars rides. Beach runs. Beautiful women wanting to meet him (then me) A life time of lost has prepared me for such moments and most has normalize yet there are these little earthquakes that come from time to time. Dogs deserve the best we can give , and Diversity ain’t it.

    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @Baron Munchhausen

    My condolences. We always know, when we get a dog, that the joy he will give us must be paid for eventually in sorrow when we lose it, as we will, because they have such short lives. Seventeen years was a good innings; you have been privileged.

    It is hard. But, as the poet said, it's better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. Probably wasn't talking about dogs, which shows you what poets know.

  8. Because groids are too busy abusing, teaching and training dogs to kill each other for fun that’s why. Then Whitey attempts to save the dog’s life.

  9. Pet Owners Are Diverse, but Veterinarians Are Overwhelmingly White. Black Veterinarians Want to Change That

    They can speed up the change by telling their fellow ignorant blacks to stop giving their “chidrin” names that do nothing but set them up for failure. Ya’ know, like Tierra.

    Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala.…”

    So Kimberley’s a racist. Got it.

    …Stark disparities have permeated the vet world for decades…

    And, on a completely unrelated note (wink), stark IQ disparities have permeated the white/black dichotomy for decades as well. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence though. No correlation whatsoever.

    …since it was formed in 2016. In fact, the number of Black vets dropped from 2.1% of the total vet population in 2016 to below 1% in 2019, which Daniel says is largely due to systemic racism.

    Lol. Yeah, that’s it, Annie. It’s got nothing to do with the fact that the overwhelming majority of your inferior race are simply a bunch of 80 IQ troglodytes.

    • Agree: WSG, Cauchemar du Singe
    • Troll: Supply and Demand
  10. Some big problems with trying to have more Black Veterinarians.
    1. To be a Veterinarian requires extreme intelligence.
    2. Dogs hate Blacks.

    • Replies: @Former Liberal
    @Wake up

    Not only do dogs hate and fear blacks for good reasons. If I'm not mistaken, there are fewer vet schools in this country than medical schools, so they can be ultra selective. Not surprised that dumb shit of a woman complaining about the lack of black vets is from. Birmingham. That place has some of the stupidest and whiniest negroes in this country. As someone once said, somewhere Bull Connor is laughing.

    , @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @Wake up


    2. Dogs hate Blacks.
     
    Can you imagine being in the dog's position? You're already not feeling well, you're stressed out over being hauled out to the vet's office, and then in walks this schvartzer with a clipboard....

    Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida

    , @Dave453
    @Wake up

    Dogs are usually good judges of character, thats one reason they dislike blacks.

  11. Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala., to care for her 2-year-old puppy Stokely—named after civil rights activist Stokely Carmichael—and to serve as a role model for her two children

    Two months searching for a negro veterinarian in one town? What was she using, a toothbrush? And I’d ask if it’s the imaginary vet or the mistreated dog which is supposed to serve as a role model for her children, but I’m not sure I want to know.

    • LOL: Lancelot_Link
  12. There’s no small number of blacks who should use a veterinarian as a primary care doctor!

    • LOL: WSG
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Father O'Hara

    So long as they have carte blanche to put down the vicious ones.  It would be a huge improvement over the status quo ante.

  13. They have frozen men out of most vet schools in the past 20 years. It’s an amazing demographic flip.

  14. It looks like there aren’t that many black human doctors either: only 5% https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/workforce/interactive-data/figure-18-percentage-all-active-physicians-race/ethnicity-2018

    Could it be that going to med school is very tasking and just getting in is quite difficult?

    • Replies: @DukeNukem
    @DrWatson

    5% is far more than there should be. Blacks benefit from massive discrimination against Asians and Whites in medical school admissions.

    https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/new-chart-illustrates-graphically-racial-preferences-for-blacks-and-hispanics-being-admitted-to-us-medical-schools/

    , @Anon
    @DrWatson

    Well there was Dr. Huxtable and his lawyer wife. That was like finding 2 needles in a haystack.

    , @ADL Pyramid of Hate
    @DrWatson

    I always hear that having Black doctors for Black people is of vital importance, so it's definitely a good thing more of them don't go into veterinary science, since that would be such a drain on the few with IQs high enough to hack it in medicine. Right?

    , @Dave453
    @DrWatson

    Most of them dont belong there.
    Affirmitive action doctors is one of the biggest problems and causes of death in this country, yet it is verboten to mention it

  15. Black veterinarians need to specialize in cat care, so all those box-wine-guzzling cat ladies can virtue signal that Fifi and Cuddles have a doctor who looks a lot like Obama.

  16. OK say we get to a 4 to 1 ratio W/B Vet’s (matching the US Population) in the coming years.

    But, what has kept Black-Americans from attending Vet School for the last 50 years?

    I can hear it now…. Black Vet Matter

  17. Total demolition of all things Western Civ is the self-evident goal.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  18. I am so sick of dog owners and dogs. There is a preposterous proliferation of dogs , stats show that the numbers of dogs in America has tripled since 1960. Dog ownership in America has become and probably always was a neurotic transference of healthy human relationships to the worship of dogs. A fat divorced women pushing a stroller filled with a toy dog is a common sight now in Covid loony America. A mania for dogs has paralleled the disintegration of the family and the role of fathers in American life. Dogs have filled the void in the putrid souls of tens of millions of Americans blighted by divorce, abortion, and child molestation. In Covid hysterical America masks and hand sanitizer are signs of a neurotic population that at the same time fills the sidewalks, parks, lawns of America with dog urine and fesces, so disgusting and vile. Americans patronize abortion clinics to kill their children while spending billions and billions in elaborate spas for the hair styling of fido. Even Caligula had more moral integrity than these American dog owners.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Disagree: AnalogMan
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Pilllow678

    In Covid hysterical America masks and hand sanitizer are signs of a neurotic population that at the same time fills the sidewalks, parks, lawns of America with dog urine and fesces, so disgusting and vile.

    It's mostly an urban/rural divide. The closer you get to the city the more you see dog parks and pet stores. Whites in rural areas don't use dogs as kid replacements.

    In urban areas you will meet people that talk about their dogs as if they are a child or best friend.

    They won't say "I'm going to the park to walk my dog".

    They will actually say "Frank and I are going to the park later".

    I had to bite my lip a lot. I always wanted to say "it's an f-ng dog lady, I could give it some bacon and it would be my best friend too".

    , @animalogic
    @Pilllow678

    "Even Caligula had more moral integrity than these American dog owners."
    Too right ! Caligula went that extra mile -- (assuming its not myth) he made his horse a senator -- perhaps there's a lesson there for us ?

    Replies: @Oil 'n Water, @Kolya Krassotkin

  19. All I ever saw in the ghetto during my time as a wrangler were chained up pitbulls, mangy junk yard dogs and packs of wild dogs chewing on whatever garbage that was dumped on the streets or in the alleys. So called “pets” were kept by the dope dealers and gang bangers as early warning systems at their crib ir dope spots. Outside in all kinds of weather in barren, hard dirt yards or cement patios. Scarred from being beaten and fought, half starved and living in horrible conditions. Yep, the black pet owner. Think of this, your pet, a dog or cat is sick, and you will not take it to a white veterinarian and would rather have it suffer or die. Ghetto mentality at its finest.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    @RickTen99


    ...in the ghetto during my time as a wrangler...
     
    I gotta ask... what exactly does a ghetto wrangler do?
  20. Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.

    • Agree: kikz
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Gunga Din

    Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.

    The same is true for White liberal women.

    They talk about how much they hate White men while hoping one marries them and then takes them away to a White neighborhood where they can have White kids.

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and I never saw one of them with a Black man. They all seemed to be holding out for their ideal White man which for most of them wasn't coming.

    One very unattractive woman of the bunch had mated with 2 or 3 different White men that clearly upped her gene pool as seen by her 4 kids and she was quite proud of herself. I always wanted to ask her how she got those men to one night stand her. I guess she decided breed some White kids by any means instead of waiting for the ideal man like the other women.

    Replies: @loren

    , @Colin Wright
    @Gunga Din

    'Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.'

    Do they? A black didn't write the article.

    Replies: @Gunga Din

    , @Non PC Infidel
    @Gunga Din

    " Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions?"

    It's quite simple, really. It's avarice, covetousness, jealousy and resentment. They see what the white man has created (which they can't) and they want it all for themselves. If they could take it all over and throw the white man out, they would. So, it's not that they obsess about being with us- they obsess over what we create and possess. The problem for them is that in order to have it they have to be around the white man. That's why Andrew Young ( black democratic diplomat) said, "No matter where the white man goes, we will follow. You can't get away from us."

    When you speak of their hate for the white man, this is the source of it all- avarice, covetousness, jealousy and resentment- which I call the Four Pillars of Black Pathology. Taken together, these four symptoms present a clear clinical picture (a syndrome) that is observable in black populations wherever they exist in contact with Whites whether that be in the USA, Europe or Africa. The same pathologies/syndrome will exist when they come into contact to a great degree with Asian cultures should they establish a foothold in Asian countries.

    As others have put it more succinctly, the parasite will always need a host.

    Replies: @Gunga Din

  21. Most veterinarians become vets instead of MDs because they love animals.

    In contrast, most blacks are known for their egregious abuse and neglect of animals.

    • Agree: By-tor
  22. @RickTen99
    All I ever saw in the ghetto during my time as a wrangler were chained up pitbulls, mangy junk yard dogs and packs of wild dogs chewing on whatever garbage that was dumped on the streets or in the alleys. So called "pets" were kept by the dope dealers and gang bangers as early warning systems at their crib ir dope spots. Outside in all kinds of weather in barren, hard dirt yards or cement patios. Scarred from being beaten and fought, half starved and living in horrible conditions. Yep, the black pet owner. Think of this, your pet, a dog or cat is sick, and you will not take it to a white veterinarian and would rather have it suffer or die. Ghetto mentality at its finest.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey

    …in the ghetto during my time as a wrangler…

    I gotta ask… what exactly does a ghetto wrangler do?

  23. And her parents are giving the money to help campus safety, track athletes and animal shelters!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/23/lauren-mccluskey-university-utah-settlement-death/3740599001/

    The University of Utah reached a $13.5 million settlement Thursday with the parents of Lauren McCluskey, a student who was killed by her ex-boyfriend on campus two years ago, and acknowledged that her death was preventable. 

    The university will pay the McCluskeys $10.5 million and make $3 million donation to the Lauren McCluskey Foundation that is designed to improve campus safety and help collegiate track athletes and animal shelters. The family has said all the money will go to the foundation.

    • Replies: @loren
    @Lancelot_Link

    As part of the settlement, the university will also name the newly launched Center for Violence Prevention after McCluskey.

    as if the students will understand the dynamics of what happened [race realism].

    Replies: @bruce county

  24. Speaking of ‘too White’ as PK has pointed out in so many words: Demographics and diversity and democracy and destiny and the road to ruin. As I often tell my Georgia kinfolk, “The rumbling sounds you hear in the nocturnal distance are bulldozers building internment camps.”

    ‘These Atlanta suburbs show how Georgia has become a 2020 battleground state’

    PUBLISHED SAT, OCT 24 2020

    …The growing non-white electorate in the state has contributed to Georgia’s shift toward battleground status. Trump beat Clinton by a 5% margin in 2016, but recent polling averages show that Biden has a chance at winning Georgia. .

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/24/georgia-7th-congressional-district-shows-how-state-has-become-2020-battleground.html

  25. This story is so comical, it almost reads like fiction. There is a simple explanation for this and I know it doesn’t apply to all blacks, but for most I feel it fits like a metaphorical glove. Veterinary work like most jobs that are very rewarding require the human trait of caring for things, or having passion for something more than you feel those things for yourself. This simply does not work well in the mind of your garden variety negro. With most, everything is about, looks at muh.. And that can mean, muh clothes, muh car, muh bling, the list is long and hilarious but in the end it’s about self service and look at me. Just observing the way the average morbidly obese ghetto sow dresses and behaves is proof that the love of themselves supersedes everything else.

  26. @DrWatson
    It looks like there aren't that many black human doctors either: only 5% https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/workforce/interactive-data/figure-18-percentage-all-active-physicians-race/ethnicity-2018

    Could it be that going to med school is very tasking and just getting in is quite difficult?

    Replies: @DukeNukem, @Anon, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @Dave453

    5% is far more than there should be. Blacks benefit from massive discrimination against Asians and Whites in medical school admissions.

    https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/new-chart-illustrates-graphically-racial-preferences-for-blacks-and-hispanics-being-admitted-to-us-medical-schools/

  27. @Almost Missouri


    Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala., to care for her 2-year-old puppy Stokely ... and to serve as a role model for her two children, who attend predominantly white schools.
     

     
    Huh, that's weird. If Kimberly is so concerned about black role models for her children, she needn't search high and low for a black vet. Just put your kids in a majority black school, Kimberly! Plenty of role models there I'm sure. Every TV show tells me so. And I guarantee you won't have to search very hard to find one near Birmingham. Local real estate is cheap too.

    What's that? You don't want your kids in those black schools? Why are you so racist against poor innocent negroes Kimberly?

    ------

    Of course, vets for pets is nice, but veterinary science's original purpose was the health of livestock. And farming, with its long hours, dangerous conditions, cognitive demands, and modest wages, remains overwhelmingly white. And as long as people like to eat—and who doesn't?—it's likely gonna remain that way. The vets who minister to agricultural clients typically share those long, difficult, demanding conditions, and do so without getting paid like some boutique vanity vet in Beverly Hills.

    There are reasons land work is so white.

    Replies: @Thalin, @loren, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Just read James Herriot books. It is a super hard work. I know, I treat animals on our farm. It’s white profession because it’s hard profession.

  28. There is a factor no one has mentioned which is that vet schools aren’t common in other counties. Third world countries don’t use vets and Muslims consider dogs to be dirty.

    So the country isn’t importing H1-B vets like regular doctors.

    This spring, Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala.

    I like how this is completely acceptable in clown world.

    When would it ever be acceptable to state “I’ve been on the internet for two months trying to find a White (any occupation)”. A low level politician could end up on a CNN segment for stating that.

    Anyways it’s actually a lousy career path which makes this all the more amusing.

    There are actually too many vets and their salaries continue to decline in rural areas. Veterinarians are also prone to depression. It’s not a good career for animals lovers as many assume.

    • Replies: @loren
    @John Johnson

    Veterinarians are also prone to depression.

    They have to kill lots of 'pets'--sick, unwanted.

    , @Swamp Fox
    @John Johnson

    I wish that they would search so diligently for their biological fathers.
    They always expect different outcomes. A Freudian would say they have overdeveloped ids. I call them sociopathic children, among other names.

  29. @Pilllow678
    I am so sick of dog owners and dogs. There is a preposterous proliferation of dogs , stats show that the numbers of dogs in America has tripled since 1960. Dog ownership in America has become and probably always was a neurotic transference of healthy human relationships to the worship of dogs. A fat divorced women pushing a stroller filled with a toy dog is a common sight now in Covid loony America. A mania for dogs has paralleled the disintegration of the family and the role of fathers in American life. Dogs have filled the void in the putrid souls of tens of millions of Americans blighted by divorce, abortion, and child molestation. In Covid hysterical America masks and hand sanitizer are signs of a neurotic population that at the same time fills the sidewalks, parks, lawns of America with dog urine and fesces, so disgusting and vile. Americans patronize abortion clinics to kill their children while spending billions and billions in elaborate spas for the hair styling of fido. Even Caligula had more moral integrity than these American dog owners.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @animalogic

    In Covid hysterical America masks and hand sanitizer are signs of a neurotic population that at the same time fills the sidewalks, parks, lawns of America with dog urine and fesces, so disgusting and vile.

    It’s mostly an urban/rural divide. The closer you get to the city the more you see dog parks and pet stores. Whites in rural areas don’t use dogs as kid replacements.

    In urban areas you will meet people that talk about their dogs as if they are a child or best friend.

    They won’t say “I’m going to the park to walk my dog”.

    They will actually say “Frank and I are going to the park later”.

    I had to bite my lip a lot. I always wanted to say “it’s an f-ng dog lady, I could give it some bacon and it would be my best friend too”.

  30. @Gunga Din
    Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Colin Wright, @Non PC Infidel

    Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.

    The same is true for White liberal women.

    They talk about how much they hate White men while hoping one marries them and then takes them away to a White neighborhood where they can have White kids.

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and I never saw one of them with a Black man. They all seemed to be holding out for their ideal White man which for most of them wasn’t coming.

    One very unattractive woman of the bunch had mated with 2 or 3 different White men that clearly upped her gene pool as seen by her 4 kids and she was quite proud of herself. I always wanted to ask her how she got those men to one night stand her. I guess she decided breed some White kids by any means instead of waiting for the ideal man like the other women.

    • Replies: @loren
    @John Johnson

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and I never saw one of them with a Black man. They all seemed to be holding out for their ideal White man which for most of them wasn’t coming.

    Here in So California, I see Black men and White females a lot. I do mean a lot..unlike 30 years ago.
    Back in 1980, fat ugly white gals were with blacks. Now its the under 40, wealthy or middle class women.
    I wonder if the blacks are professionals, have money, etc.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

  31. The article displayed everything neatly, racially, knitted together including throwing in St. Floyd, along with the old stand-by systemic tripe, in order to sound as though blacks are being purposely denied attainment in this area.
    Again, if only given the opportunity to overcome Whitey’s hatred for anything promoting black success, these folks would take right off quicker than a looter with his pants on fire.
    I have a close relative who is a veterinarian. A candidate has to be invited into the program, and given the intelligence requirements, not many can hack it, blacks or Whites. My relative’s class had one black guy who soon washed out.
    Supposedly, the field is more demanding than that of the MD. When you think of it the MD. has ONE organism to focus on, the vet, many.
    Anyway, readers are supposed to feel sympathy for blacks, many of whom, as you know, have maxed out academically around fifth or sixth grade. But that little fact can never be part of the conversation.
    I suppose we’ll see more “inclusion” in vet classes simply because of the increased black mania, just as we will in other areas.
    Somewhat related, is a story in the local paper today, that city schools will soon end the practice of assigning Latin achievement titles: summa cum laude, cum laude, etc.
    Reasoning: it creates stress in students to achieve at a higher level (can’t have that) and makes less able students feel not as important. Just get it over with and hand out A’s to everyone so they will all feel “included” and equal.

  32. @Almost Missouri


    Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala., to care for her 2-year-old puppy Stokely ... and to serve as a role model for her two children, who attend predominantly white schools.
     

     
    Huh, that's weird. If Kimberly is so concerned about black role models for her children, she needn't search high and low for a black vet. Just put your kids in a majority black school, Kimberly! Plenty of role models there I'm sure. Every TV show tells me so. And I guarantee you won't have to search very hard to find one near Birmingham. Local real estate is cheap too.

    What's that? You don't want your kids in those black schools? Why are you so racist against poor innocent negroes Kimberly?

    ------

    Of course, vets for pets is nice, but veterinary science's original purpose was the health of livestock. And farming, with its long hours, dangerous conditions, cognitive demands, and modest wages, remains overwhelmingly white. And as long as people like to eat—and who doesn't?—it's likely gonna remain that way. The vets who minister to agricultural clients typically share those long, difficult, demanding conditions, and do so without getting paid like some boutique vanity vet in Beverly Hills.

    There are reasons land work is so white.

    Replies: @Thalin, @loren, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Recently a cat jumped from 3rd story. broke a leg.
    A vet in Los Angeles wanted $9000 to treat the cat.

    STOKLEY was a panther? I guess theres a wiki.

  33. Anonymous[308] • Disclaimer says:

    There is an obvious explanation to why there are few black veterinarians (and black dentists for that matter). If a black person has enough intelligence to clear the low affirmative action bars set for them to go to vet school or dental school, they likely also can get admitted into medical school.

    That being the case, why wouldn’t they shoot for the most prestigious job?

    There simply aren’t enough blacks out there with the intelligence required to simply be dragged across the finish line and become a high-level medical practitioner. Almost all that do will become MDs. There aren’t enough blacks in this small group interested in animals who would also turn down the more prestigious job. There aren’t enough blacks in this small group that would opt for dental school over medical school if they could easily get into either. Then you have the blacks who are interested in health care, but don’t have the chops to get dragged through medical schooling–these people become nurses.

    The small number of “talented” black professionals out there are recruited and take jobs in elite professions, leaving the less elite but skilled jobs “non-diverse” due to a lack of black applicants.

    Trying to get “talented” blacks interested in going to vet school when they could just as easily go to med school is like trying to convince someone to buy a Ford sedan if they had the means to acquire a new Mercedes for the same price.

  34. @DrWatson
    It looks like there aren't that many black human doctors either: only 5% https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/workforce/interactive-data/figure-18-percentage-all-active-physicians-race/ethnicity-2018

    Could it be that going to med school is very tasking and just getting in is quite difficult?

    Replies: @DukeNukem, @Anon, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @Dave453

    Well there was Dr. Huxtable and his lawyer wife. That was like finding 2 needles in a haystack.

  35. @bruce county
    https://images.gawker.com/18addjgy80f0mjpg/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800.jpg

    Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe

    BRILLIANT !

  36. There are only about 30 vet schools in the country —how many med schools are there???almost 200—between MDs and DOs

  37. @DrWatson
    It looks like there aren't that many black human doctors either: only 5% https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/workforce/interactive-data/figure-18-percentage-all-active-physicians-race/ethnicity-2018

    Could it be that going to med school is very tasking and just getting in is quite difficult?

    Replies: @DukeNukem, @Anon, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @Dave453

    I always hear that having Black doctors for Black people is of vital importance, so it’s definitely a good thing more of them don’t go into veterinary science, since that would be such a drain on the few with IQs high enough to hack it in medicine. Right?

  38. @loren
    some say being a vet is more difficult than being a dentist or MD because Vet must work with no
    way of getting answers to questions asked.

    Replies: @Raccoon, @AKAHorace

    You hit the nail on the head!

    It is highly cognitive, insofar as a vet relies upon observations, quizzing the owner, and usually without the assisting of immediate diagnostic pathology testing.

    Dr Shitavious has an innate fear of dogs, so he’s not going to be levering open the dog’s mouth to assess gum condition and coloring, is he?

  39. Cry me a river N….

  40. @Dan Hayes
    I'm under the impression that there is an overrepresentation of females serving as non-farm veterinarians. Correct? (Gal vets can cuddle Bow-Wow, but not Ferdinand the Bull!)

    Replies: @Patrick Boyle

    I’m not an expert of vets except that I watch “The Incredible Doctor Pol” religiously. I find it calming. If I watch Fox News too much I start getting agitated. I turn to Dr. Pol and get healed.

    As it happens he has three vets now working in his clinic and they are all women. This is a rural practice that serves a farming community. The tiny women go into the muck with the big angry cows and bulls and sometimes get kicked. They are all tough broads and seem to be very competent. If they weren’t, the Web would be alive with nasty critics. Of course they edit the show. I’m sure to eliminate their mistakes. The major problems seems to be dogs getting a mouth full of porcupine quills and cows needing help birthing a calf. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a black person on the show. It’s as white as the Mike Lindel MyPillow ads.

    I used to teach Microsoft certification courses commercially. Many of the students were looking for a new career or a first career. I would get self taught computer guys who wanted to learn more, and I would get cabinet makers who thought there was more money in computers. I remember being shocked once at a graduate veterinarian who wanted to learn about networking (few wanted to learn to program). I asked her – what are you doing here? She said vets are underpaid. She also got sick of the customers who wouldn’t pay for treatment and just had their pet destroyed. They never show that on TV.

    According to your stats blacks only have dogs at little more than half the rate of whites. I suspect that many of those dogs are pit bulls. Lower class males black, white or Hispanic – seem to like to own fighting dogs. I, like most whites, have a dog for companionship. I have a piebald Papillion. A very pretty and lively little guy, but naughty. The lower orders seem to want a dog as a weapon.

    I’m not surprised that there are no black vets and it doesn’t bother me at all.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
  41. @loren
    some say being a vet is more difficult than being a dentist or MD because Vet must work with no
    way of getting answers to questions asked.

    Replies: @Raccoon, @AKAHorace

    some say being a vet is more difficult than being a dentist or MD because Vet must work with no
    way of getting answers to questions asked.

    They also have to know about many animals rather than one.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @Censusdesignatedplace
    @AKAHorace

    They also have to be aware of being bitten, kicked (livestock especially) and shat upon.

    Similar to an inner city E.R. ?

  42. How racist do you have to be to waste time hunting for a black veterinarian for your pet? How far gone do you have to be that the “race” of the person caring for your dog is so important that you are this bothered by a white or hispanic vet? This is sick! Just sick!

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @taildragger


    How racist do you have to be to waste time hunting for a black veterinarian for your pet?
     
    And how much time do you have to piss away on something that is counterproductive? She must be a government worker. It's like planning a vacation and spending two months on the phone & on line searching for the dirtiest hotel.
  43. @Father O'Hara
    There's no small number of blacks who should use a veterinarian as a primary care doctor!

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    So long as they have carte blanche to put down the vicious ones.  It would be a huge improvement over the status quo ante.

  44. They should use Witch Doctors. This would save a lot of money on vet fees.

  45. @Almost Missouri


    Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala., to care for her 2-year-old puppy Stokely ... and to serve as a role model for her two children, who attend predominantly white schools.
     

     
    Huh, that's weird. If Kimberly is so concerned about black role models for her children, she needn't search high and low for a black vet. Just put your kids in a majority black school, Kimberly! Plenty of role models there I'm sure. Every TV show tells me so. And I guarantee you won't have to search very hard to find one near Birmingham. Local real estate is cheap too.

    What's that? You don't want your kids in those black schools? Why are you so racist against poor innocent negroes Kimberly?

    ------

    Of course, vets for pets is nice, but veterinary science's original purpose was the health of livestock. And farming, with its long hours, dangerous conditions, cognitive demands, and modest wages, remains overwhelmingly white. And as long as people like to eat—and who doesn't?—it's likely gonna remain that way. The vets who minister to agricultural clients typically share those long, difficult, demanding conditions, and do so without getting paid like some boutique vanity vet in Beverly Hills.

    There are reasons land work is so white.

    Replies: @Thalin, @loren, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    …Every TV show tells me so…

    I guarantee that if a network were to launch a TV show this year about a veterinarian, you would see a gifted, compassionate Black! genius.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    If you can think it...it will happen.
    The Magic Black Theory.

  46. ‘Profession Dubbed ‘Whitest in America’ as if It Were a Sin’

    ? Wouldn’t that be fatherhood?

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
    @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright----------You are a nasty man.Very nasty. Also 100% correct.

  47. @Gunga Din
    Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Colin Wright, @Non PC Infidel

    ‘Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.’

    Do they? A black didn’t write the article.

    • Replies: @Gunga Din
    @Colin Wright

    True, but I based my statements on what the girl said as well as observations.

  48. ‘Profession Dubbed ‘Whitest in America’

    Of course it is. The pay is unimpressive, the qualifications are exacting, and you have to like animals — uncooked.

  49. @Baron Munchhausen
    My 17 year old Chihuahua mix passed away in his sleep almost 2 weeks ago. It’s been rough. When my Father took his life I never grieved; This Dog? I’ve never known such sorrow. He was always forgiving, always loyal, always there. Always happy to see me. Always wanting to be next to me. Cars rides. Beach runs. Beautiful women wanting to meet him (then me) A life time of lost has prepared me for such moments and most has normalize yet there are these little earthquakes that come from time to time. Dogs deserve the best we can give , and Diversity ain’t it.

    Replies: @AnalogMan

    My condolences. We always know, when we get a dog, that the joy he will give us must be paid for eventually in sorrow when we lose it, as we will, because they have such short lives. Seventeen years was a good innings; you have been privileged.

    It is hard. But, as the poet said, it’s better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. Probably wasn’t talking about dogs, which shows you what poets know.

  50. @Pilllow678
    I am so sick of dog owners and dogs. There is a preposterous proliferation of dogs , stats show that the numbers of dogs in America has tripled since 1960. Dog ownership in America has become and probably always was a neurotic transference of healthy human relationships to the worship of dogs. A fat divorced women pushing a stroller filled with a toy dog is a common sight now in Covid loony America. A mania for dogs has paralleled the disintegration of the family and the role of fathers in American life. Dogs have filled the void in the putrid souls of tens of millions of Americans blighted by divorce, abortion, and child molestation. In Covid hysterical America masks and hand sanitizer are signs of a neurotic population that at the same time fills the sidewalks, parks, lawns of America with dog urine and fesces, so disgusting and vile. Americans patronize abortion clinics to kill their children while spending billions and billions in elaborate spas for the hair styling of fido. Even Caligula had more moral integrity than these American dog owners.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @animalogic

    “Even Caligula had more moral integrity than these American dog owners.”
    Too right ! Caligula went that extra mile — (assuming its not myth) he made his horse a senator — perhaps there’s a lesson there for us ?

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
    @animalogic


    Caligula …. made his horse a senator — 
     
    Which end?

    Replies: @Bite Moi

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @animalogic

    Re: Caligula making his horse a senator

    And NY made Mrs Rodham-Clinton a senator, yet some still have the temerity to accuse Caligula of being insane.

  51. @Gunga Din
    Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Colin Wright, @Non PC Infidel

    ” Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions?”

    It’s quite simple, really. It’s avarice, covetousness, jealousy and resentment. They see what the white man has created (which they can’t) and they want it all for themselves. If they could take it all over and throw the white man out, they would. So, it’s not that they obsess about being with us- they obsess over what we create and possess. The problem for them is that in order to have it they have to be around the white man. That’s why Andrew Young ( black democratic diplomat) said, “No matter where the white man goes, we will follow. You can’t get away from us.”

    When you speak of their hate for the white man, this is the source of it all- avarice, covetousness, jealousy and resentment- which I call the Four Pillars of Black Pathology. Taken together, these four symptoms present a clear clinical picture (a syndrome) that is observable in black populations wherever they exist in contact with Whites whether that be in the USA, Europe or Africa. The same pathologies/syndrome will exist when they come into contact to a great degree with Asian cultures should they establish a foothold in Asian countries.

    As others have put it more succinctly, the parasite will always need a host.

    • Agree: WSG
    • Replies: @Gunga Din
    @Non PC Infidel

    A great deal of wisdom in your explanation. Thanks.

  52. @Wake up
    Some big problems with trying to have more Black Veterinarians.
    1. To be a Veterinarian requires extreme intelligence.
    2. Dogs hate Blacks.

    Replies: @Former Liberal, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @Dave453

    Not only do dogs hate and fear blacks for good reasons. If I’m not mistaken, there are fewer vet schools in this country than medical schools, so they can be ultra selective. Not surprised that dumb shit of a woman complaining about the lack of black vets is from. Birmingham. That place has some of the stupidest and whiniest negroes in this country. As someone once said, somewhere Bull Connor is laughing.

  53. I know a Black veterinarian here in a Northern NJ suburb who graduated from Tuskegee University’s vet school.

  54. I honestly and sincerely doubt that any Black could stay in business as a Vet – the animals would reject care from them. Humans can lie to themselves about the condition of the Negro, animals, not so much.

  55. A black affirmative action vet for my animals is bad enough but imagine when they start the push for more affirmative action doctors and dentists.

  56. My veterinarian can’t be “Too White”, nor my medical doctor or the pilot of the next plane that I get on.

  57. Are whites over represented among veterinarians? That’s a more difficult question to question to answer than you might imagine.

    Many black activists assume every job population should be 50-50 whites and blacks. However most people aren’t that stupid. America has 197.2 million non-Hispanic whites and about 44 million blacks. So if it were just by a simple head count it should be 82-18.

    Now let’s consider intelligence. As has been noted vets need to be smart. They make a lot less than a doctor who takes human patients but they need to know a similar number of diseases and conditions. Fewer diseases and in less depth than doctors who treat humans but more species. Vets go to four years of med school as do MDs, but MDs usually have a couple more years of post-doctoral training. MDs have an IQ of 120 to 125. My doctor is Korean and South Korea has the highest population average IQ of any nation. At better urban medical centers the doctors are probably more like 125-130. The vets are possibly a little lower but I can find no source on veterinarian IQs.

    The IQ mean was set at 100 with a standard deviation of 15. This is convenient because blacks are almost exactly one SD lower in IQ, and doctors and vets can be approximated as 2 SDs smarter than average. Medical doctors are the smartest profession that most people meet in everyday life. Theoretical physicists as a group are smarter than doctors, but lawyers as a whole are a little less smart.

    So to make the math easy let’s say vets have an average IQ of 130. That’s probably a little high but if you want a better calculation do your own calculations.

    Averages only matter near the mean – IQs around 100. Because the Normal curve has asymptotic tails small differences around the mean get magnified at the extremes. So at an IQ of 130 only about 2% of the population will qualify. That is in the white population. In the black population barely 0.1% have that high of an IQ. You can look these areas under the curve in any z table.

    That’s 17 times fewer people at the “gifted’ level for blacks. Multiply 17 times 4.5 for total population size and you get 76.5 times. That means our prior expectation for the race of a veterinarian would be 76.5 times as many whites as blacks.

    If you never took stat and don’t know what a z table is, this sounds crazy. But the Gaussian Curve the “Normal” Curve exaggerates small differences at the mean to very large differences at the tails. The 15 point IQ lower score at the mean, means that blacks will be nearly absent (about 1%) in any high IQ job. This isn’t a mistake or villainy it’s just the math.

    • Agree: Trevor
    • Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida
    @Patrick Boyle

    "The 15 point IQ lower score at the mean, means that blacks will be nearly absent (about 1%) in any high IQ job. This isn’t a mistake or villainy it’s just the math."

    Brilliant analysis as usual Pat. However, you left out the elephant in the room here, affirmative action. The admissions criteria for blacks to get into Medical school, Law School or Vet School are entirely different.

    They don't need to have a high IQ to pass the admissions criteria.

    A great example is Harvard, roughly 20% of all entering freshmen don't have the grades or sat to get into a decent State University. They just need to be Black Or Hispanic.

    Replies: @Patrick Boyle

    , @Mycale
    @Patrick Boyle

    Thanks for the numbers. Honestly, by the current standards of veterinary schools and the way the field operates, the black vets we do have are, very likely, qualified and competent. I would still rather have a white vet (just as I would rather live in a society filled with people who share my norms and values, in general), but the ones we have are likely just fine. We all know what comes next though. Affirmative action admissions, grading on a curve, loosening of standards, so on and so on, to the point where yet another industry which America excelled at is ruined, and you’re going to check LinkedIn for photos before you send Fluffy and Spot to the vet.

  58. @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @Almost Missouri


    ...Every TV show tells me so...
     
    I guarantee that if a network were to launch a TV show this year about a veterinarian, you would see a gifted, compassionate Black! genius.

    Replies: @bruce county

    If you can think it…it will happen.
    The Magic Black Theory.

  59. @Colin Wright
    'Profession Dubbed 'Whitest in America' as if It Were a Sin'

    ? Wouldn't that be fatherhood?

    Replies: @Bite Moi

    Colin Wright———-You are a nasty man.Very nasty. Also 100% correct.

  60. Short list of pre vet college course at a Cal Poly circa 1977 first semester.
    Anthropology
    Archaeology
    Carbon dating
    Calculus
    Algebra
    Chemistry and more chemistry
    Business
    Animal husbandry
    Zoology
    Psychology
    Visual acuity with microscope

    I’m sure there were more, but it’s been over 40 years. It seemed there was no time to sleep, no time for a job, just time to study. Very intense course of study. (ain’t nobody got time for dat sheet now days)

  61. @AKAHorace
    @loren


    some say being a vet is more difficult than being a dentist or MD because Vet must work with no
    way of getting answers to questions asked.
     
    They also have to know about many animals rather than one.

    Replies: @Censusdesignatedplace

    They also have to be aware of being bitten, kicked (livestock especially) and shat upon.

    Similar to an inner city E.R. ?

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  62. @John Johnson
    There is a factor no one has mentioned which is that vet schools aren't common in other counties. Third world countries don't use vets and Muslims consider dogs to be dirty.

    So the country isn't importing H1-B vets like regular doctors.

    This spring, Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala.

    I like how this is completely acceptable in clown world.

    When would it ever be acceptable to state "I've been on the internet for two months trying to find a White (any occupation)". A low level politician could end up on a CNN segment for stating that.

    Anyways it's actually a lousy career path which makes this all the more amusing.

    There are actually too many vets and their salaries continue to decline in rural areas. Veterinarians are also prone to depression. It's not a good career for animals lovers as many assume.

    Replies: @loren, @Swamp Fox

    Veterinarians are also prone to depression.

    They have to kill lots of ‘pets’–sick, unwanted.

  63. @John Johnson
    @Gunga Din

    Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.

    The same is true for White liberal women.

    They talk about how much they hate White men while hoping one marries them and then takes them away to a White neighborhood where they can have White kids.

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and I never saw one of them with a Black man. They all seemed to be holding out for their ideal White man which for most of them wasn't coming.

    One very unattractive woman of the bunch had mated with 2 or 3 different White men that clearly upped her gene pool as seen by her 4 kids and she was quite proud of herself. I always wanted to ask her how she got those men to one night stand her. I guess she decided breed some White kids by any means instead of waiting for the ideal man like the other women.

    Replies: @loren

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and I never saw one of them with a Black man. They all seemed to be holding out for their ideal White man which for most of them wasn’t coming.

    Here in So California, I see Black men and White females a lot. I do mean a lot..unlike 30 years ago.
    Back in 1980, fat ugly white gals were with blacks. Now its the under 40, wealthy or middle class women.
    I wonder if the blacks are professionals, have money, etc.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @loren

    Those are the new generation of women who grew up in the late 80s/90s at the beginning of the big push for diversity and interracial advertising. It's usually girls with daddy's money or some divorcee supporting some strapping broke buck with their alimony payments as an FU to their ex-husbands.

    I still see plenty of blacks with fat white women, or a single fat white woman with a few wooly headed, mixed kids at the grocery store.

  64. @Lancelot_Link
    And her parents are giving the money to help campus safety, track athletes and animal shelters!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/10/23/lauren-mccluskey-university-utah-settlement-death/3740599001/

    The University of Utah reached a $13.5 million settlement Thursday with the parents of Lauren McCluskey, a student who was killed by her ex-boyfriend on campus two years ago, and acknowledged that her death was preventable. 

    The university will pay the McCluskeys $10.5 million and make $3 million donation to the Lauren McCluskey Foundation that is designed to improve campus safety and help collegiate track athletes and animal shelters. The family has said all the money will go to the foundation.

    Replies: @loren

    As part of the settlement, the university will also name the newly launched Center for Violence Prevention after McCluskey.

    as if the students will understand the dynamics of what happened [race realism].

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @loren


    As part of the settlement, the university will also name the newly launched Center for Violence Prevention after McCluskey.
     
    Will it be headed by a diversity hire with a meaningless degree and turn it into a race thing.?
  65. @Patrick Boyle
    Are whites over represented among veterinarians? That's a more difficult question to question to answer than you might imagine.

    Many black activists assume every job population should be 50-50 whites and blacks. However most people aren't that stupid. America has 197.2 million non-Hispanic whites and about 44 million blacks. So if it were just by a simple head count it should be 82-18.

    Now let's consider intelligence. As has been noted vets need to be smart. They make a lot less than a doctor who takes human patients but they need to know a similar number of diseases and conditions. Fewer diseases and in less depth than doctors who treat humans but more species. Vets go to four years of med school as do MDs, but MDs usually have a couple more years of post-doctoral training. MDs have an IQ of 120 to 125. My doctor is Korean and South Korea has the highest population average IQ of any nation. At better urban medical centers the doctors are probably more like 125-130. The vets are possibly a little lower but I can find no source on veterinarian IQs.

    The IQ mean was set at 100 with a standard deviation of 15. This is convenient because blacks are almost exactly one SD lower in IQ, and doctors and vets can be approximated as 2 SDs smarter than average. Medical doctors are the smartest profession that most people meet in everyday life. Theoretical physicists as a group are smarter than doctors, but lawyers as a whole are a little less smart.

    So to make the math easy let's say vets have an average IQ of 130. That's probably a little high but if you want a better calculation do your own calculations.

    Averages only matter near the mean - IQs around 100. Because the Normal curve has asymptotic tails small differences around the mean get magnified at the extremes. So at an IQ of 130 only about 2% of the population will qualify. That is in the white population. In the black population barely 0.1% have that high of an IQ. You can look these areas under the curve in any z table.

    That's 17 times fewer people at the "gifted' level for blacks. Multiply 17 times 4.5 for total population size and you get 76.5 times. That means our prior expectation for the race of a veterinarian would be 76.5 times as many whites as blacks.

    If you never took stat and don't know what a z table is, this sounds crazy. But the Gaussian Curve the "Normal" Curve exaggerates small differences at the mean to very large differences at the tails. The 15 point IQ lower score at the mean, means that blacks will be nearly absent (about 1%) in any high IQ job. This isn't a mistake or villainy it's just the math.

    Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida, @Mycale

    “The 15 point IQ lower score at the mean, means that blacks will be nearly absent (about 1%) in any high IQ job. This isn’t a mistake or villainy it’s just the math.”

    Brilliant analysis as usual Pat. However, you left out the elephant in the room here, affirmative action. The admissions criteria for blacks to get into Medical school, Law School or Vet School are entirely different.

    They don’t need to have a high IQ to pass the admissions criteria.

    A great example is Harvard, roughly 20% of all entering freshmen don’t have the grades or sat to get into a decent State University. They just need to be Black Or Hispanic.

    • Replies: @Patrick Boyle
    @Another-Guy-in Florida

    I didn't forget Affirmative Action. I live in Oakland and Oakland Kaiser advertises itself as a black hospital. Indeed probably most of the patients I see in the clinics are black. My doctor is Korean which suits me fine or the Chinese ophthalmologist he referred me to. But if it were a black MD to whom I was referred - I would run for cover. Life is to precious to risk the dubious ministrations of an Affirmative Action med school graduate.

    Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida

  66. @Non PC Infidel
    @Gunga Din

    " Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions?"

    It's quite simple, really. It's avarice, covetousness, jealousy and resentment. They see what the white man has created (which they can't) and they want it all for themselves. If they could take it all over and throw the white man out, they would. So, it's not that they obsess about being with us- they obsess over what we create and possess. The problem for them is that in order to have it they have to be around the white man. That's why Andrew Young ( black democratic diplomat) said, "No matter where the white man goes, we will follow. You can't get away from us."

    When you speak of their hate for the white man, this is the source of it all- avarice, covetousness, jealousy and resentment- which I call the Four Pillars of Black Pathology. Taken together, these four symptoms present a clear clinical picture (a syndrome) that is observable in black populations wherever they exist in contact with Whites whether that be in the USA, Europe or Africa. The same pathologies/syndrome will exist when they come into contact to a great degree with Asian cultures should they establish a foothold in Asian countries.

    As others have put it more succinctly, the parasite will always need a host.

    Replies: @Gunga Din

    A great deal of wisdom in your explanation. Thanks.

  67. @Colin Wright
    @Gunga Din

    'Why is it black Americans have this overwhelming obsession to insert themselves into White neighborhoods, schools, institutions, professions? They hate White people yet they obsess about being with us. Weird.'

    Do they? A black didn't write the article.

    Replies: @Gunga Din

    True, but I based my statements on what the girl said as well as observations.

  68. One of the best articles I’ve read in a while on SBPDL, and the comments are spot on.

    The silver lining between the two is this:

    If you want a workplace free from diversity, go into Veterinary practice. You’ll never have the surly, uppity black co-workers that populate the typical American workplace now. Your customer base will be overwhelmingly white as well. Blacks don’t own pets like whites do, and those that do have pets don’t take care of them.

    Another career path I highly recommend for racial awake whites is EMS/FIRE.

    You will work with a partner or small crew 90% of the time. The ranks are majority white unless near a major city or other black enclave. Do your homework (city-data.com) on the racial makeup of the area/State you want to work in and get certified/work in an area that is 80% white or better.

  69. @John Johnson
    There is a factor no one has mentioned which is that vet schools aren't common in other counties. Third world countries don't use vets and Muslims consider dogs to be dirty.

    So the country isn't importing H1-B vets like regular doctors.

    This spring, Kimberley Glover spent nearly two months searching for a Black veterinarian in Birmingham, Ala.

    I like how this is completely acceptable in clown world.

    When would it ever be acceptable to state "I've been on the internet for two months trying to find a White (any occupation)". A low level politician could end up on a CNN segment for stating that.

    Anyways it's actually a lousy career path which makes this all the more amusing.

    There are actually too many vets and their salaries continue to decline in rural areas. Veterinarians are also prone to depression. It's not a good career for animals lovers as many assume.

    Replies: @loren, @Swamp Fox

    I wish that they would search so diligently for their biological fathers.
    They always expect different outcomes. A Freudian would say they have overdeveloped ids. I call them sociopathic children, among other names.

  70. Swamp Fox——-Wha chu gon do? Ain’t but one Maurey Povich.

    • Replies: @Swamp Fox
    @Bite Moi

    They all gonna "step up to the plate."
    They all figuratively "strike out."

  71. @loren
    @John Johnson

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and I never saw one of them with a Black man. They all seemed to be holding out for their ideal White man which for most of them wasn’t coming.

    Here in So California, I see Black men and White females a lot. I do mean a lot..unlike 30 years ago.
    Back in 1980, fat ugly white gals were with blacks. Now its the under 40, wealthy or middle class women.
    I wonder if the blacks are professionals, have money, etc.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    Those are the new generation of women who grew up in the late 80s/90s at the beginning of the big push for diversity and interracial advertising. It’s usually girls with daddy’s money or some divorcee supporting some strapping broke buck with their alimony payments as an FU to their ex-husbands.

    I still see plenty of blacks with fat white women, or a single fat white woman with a few wooly headed, mixed kids at the grocery store.

  72. @Bite Moi
    Swamp Fox-------Wha chu gon do? Ain't but one Maurey Povich.

    Replies: @Swamp Fox

    They all gonna “step up to the plate.”
    They all figuratively “strike out.”

  73. @loren
    @Lancelot_Link

    As part of the settlement, the university will also name the newly launched Center for Violence Prevention after McCluskey.

    as if the students will understand the dynamics of what happened [race realism].

    Replies: @bruce county

    As part of the settlement, the university will also name the newly launched Center for Violence Prevention after McCluskey.

    Will it be headed by a diversity hire with a meaningless degree and turn it into a race thing.?

  74. @Wake up
    Some big problems with trying to have more Black Veterinarians.
    1. To be a Veterinarian requires extreme intelligence.
    2. Dogs hate Blacks.

    Replies: @Former Liberal, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @Dave453

    2. Dogs hate Blacks.

    Can you imagine being in the dog’s position? You’re already not feeling well, you’re stressed out over being hauled out to the vet’s office, and then in walks this schvartzer with a clipboard….

    • Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida
    @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    "Can you imagine being in the dog’s position? You’re already not feeling well, you’re stressed out over being hauled out to the vet’s office, and then in walks this schvartzer with a clipboard…."

    Now that was hilarious! Thanks!

  75. @animalogic
    @Pilllow678

    "Even Caligula had more moral integrity than these American dog owners."
    Too right ! Caligula went that extra mile -- (assuming its not myth) he made his horse a senator -- perhaps there's a lesson there for us ?

    Replies: @Oil 'n Water, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Caligula …. made his horse a senator — 

    Which end?

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
    @Oil 'n Water

    Oil 'n Water----------THAT was comment of the month.

  76. @taildragger
    How racist do you have to be to waste time hunting for a black veterinarian for your pet? How far gone do you have to be that the "race" of the person caring for your dog is so important that you are this bothered by a white or hispanic vet? This is sick! Just sick!

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    How racist do you have to be to waste time hunting for a black veterinarian for your pet?

    And how much time do you have to piss away on something that is counterproductive? She must be a government worker. It’s like planning a vacation and spending two months on the phone & on line searching for the dirtiest hotel.

    • Agree: CDebussey
  77. @Oil 'n Water
    @animalogic


    Caligula …. made his horse a senator — 
     
    Which end?

    Replies: @Bite Moi

    Oil ‘n Water———-THAT was comment of the month.

  78. @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @Wake up


    2. Dogs hate Blacks.
     
    Can you imagine being in the dog's position? You're already not feeling well, you're stressed out over being hauled out to the vet's office, and then in walks this schvartzer with a clipboard....

    Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida

    “Can you imagine being in the dog’s position? You’re already not feeling well, you’re stressed out over being hauled out to the vet’s office, and then in walks this schvartzer with a clipboard….”

    Now that was hilarious! Thanks!

    • Agree: Swamp Fox
  79. The worst – some might say the fatal – twist to such articles as this …..to the sudden preponderance of articles like this…. is the inability of whites to gather together to frankly discuss such matters: why they’re happening, what they mean, and what can be done about them.

    Every race, ethnicity or particular association is allowed – encouraged! – to organize and freely discuss matters of group importance EXCEPT US. No matter how the liars of the Fourth Estate/Fifth Column care to couch it, it is now not just legal, but the business of government, to hound us from ever finding, joining, associating or – heaven forbid! – allying with one another. (And if any such guild or association appears to be benignly neglected and left alone, watch out! – you’re likely to be infiltrated with traitors & informants, to the point of infestation.)

    Sadly, these are now the default settings – 50 years of public education used as a cudgel against honest, God-fearing Caucasians have programmed such turncoats as though they were coming off an assembly line, but even more fearsome a proposition is 25 years of Silicon Valley turning their technological might against us by watching, listening, mapping and even anticipating any and every move white people might make as a self-identified interest group. You’d think it would be in the long-term interest of any nation-state to maybe use such maneuvers to keep tabs on proven bad actors or demonstrably violent subsets of the population (though I shudder to think of any marriage of the Swamp and the Valley, under any pretext) but of course it’s 2020 – Backwards Day, writ on the largest IMAX screen imaginable – and so every surveillance camera, every parabolic microphone and laser-sighted gun barrel and next plateau of artificial superintelligence is trained only on the law-abiding, quietly productive yet irrevocably-dwindling tax base propping up this doomed leviathan about to come crashing to Earth. (Yes, Virginia, all empires ae indeed doomed.)

    You might be thinking, gee, fella, it was only an article on veterinarians! Switch to decaf, for Gawd’s sake! And you might have a point. But in wondering aloud why does such an article even need to be written – and could it have been imaginable even ten years ago, let alone fifty? – I’m reminded of a sidebar comment the late Joe Sobran once made, about how behind every ordinary parking ticket is the threat of death at the hands of the State. Twenty years ago when he wrote it, he seemed to really be reaching to make a point; today he’d be barely shifting in his seat to make the very same observation.

    • Replies: @Raccoon
    @Ragno

    Hear! Hear! Very well put, Ragno.

    Kudos.

  80. @Ragno
    The worst - some might say the fatal - twist to such articles as this .....to the sudden preponderance of articles like this.... is the inability of whites to gather together to frankly discuss such matters: why they're happening, what they mean, and what can be done about them.

    Every race, ethnicity or particular association is allowed - encouraged! - to organize and freely discuss matters of group importance EXCEPT US. No matter how the liars of the Fourth Estate/Fifth Column care to couch it, it is now not just legal, but the business of government, to hound us from ever finding, joining, associating or - heaven forbid! - allying with one another. (And if any such guild or association appears to be benignly neglected and left alone, watch out! - you're likely to be infiltrated with traitors & informants, to the point of infestation.)

    Sadly, these are now the default settings - 50 years of public education used as a cudgel against honest, God-fearing Caucasians have programmed such turncoats as though they were coming off an assembly line, but even more fearsome a proposition is 25 years of Silicon Valley turning their technological might against us by watching, listening, mapping and even anticipating any and every move white people might make as a self-identified interest group. You'd think it would be in the long-term interest of any nation-state to maybe use such maneuvers to keep tabs on proven bad actors or demonstrably violent subsets of the population (though I shudder to think of any marriage of the Swamp and the Valley, under any pretext) but of course it's 2020 - Backwards Day, writ on the largest IMAX screen imaginable - and so every surveillance camera, every parabolic microphone and laser-sighted gun barrel and next plateau of artificial superintelligence is trained only on the law-abiding, quietly productive yet irrevocably-dwindling tax base propping up this doomed leviathan about to come crashing to Earth. (Yes, Virginia, all empires ae indeed doomed.)

    You might be thinking, gee, fella, it was only an article on veterinarians! Switch to decaf, for Gawd's sake! And you might have a point. But in wondering aloud why does such an article even need to be written - and could it have been imaginable even ten years ago, let alone fifty? - I'm reminded of a sidebar comment the late Joe Sobran once made, about how behind every ordinary parking ticket is the threat of death at the hands of the State. Twenty years ago when he wrote it, he seemed to really be reaching to make a point; today he'd be barely shifting in his seat to make the very same observation.

    Replies: @Raccoon

    Hear! Hear! Very well put, Ragno.

    Kudos.

  81. Blacks are “under-represented” in occupations that require intelligence.

    It’s obviously Evil Whitey’s fault — what other explanation could there possibly be?

  82. @Another-Guy-in Florida
    @Patrick Boyle

    "The 15 point IQ lower score at the mean, means that blacks will be nearly absent (about 1%) in any high IQ job. This isn’t a mistake or villainy it’s just the math."

    Brilliant analysis as usual Pat. However, you left out the elephant in the room here, affirmative action. The admissions criteria for blacks to get into Medical school, Law School or Vet School are entirely different.

    They don't need to have a high IQ to pass the admissions criteria.

    A great example is Harvard, roughly 20% of all entering freshmen don't have the grades or sat to get into a decent State University. They just need to be Black Or Hispanic.

    Replies: @Patrick Boyle

    I didn’t forget Affirmative Action. I live in Oakland and Oakland Kaiser advertises itself as a black hospital. Indeed probably most of the patients I see in the clinics are black. My doctor is Korean which suits me fine or the Chinese ophthalmologist he referred me to. But if it were a black MD to whom I was referred – I would run for cover. Life is to precious to risk the dubious ministrations of an Affirmative Action med school graduate.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida
    @Patrick Boyle

    I have first-hand experience with more than a few black Physicians. I would never allow myself to be treated by one.

    I completely agree with you on the Chinese and Koreans though.

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @Bite Moi

  83. @Patrick Boyle
    @Another-Guy-in Florida

    I didn't forget Affirmative Action. I live in Oakland and Oakland Kaiser advertises itself as a black hospital. Indeed probably most of the patients I see in the clinics are black. My doctor is Korean which suits me fine or the Chinese ophthalmologist he referred me to. But if it were a black MD to whom I was referred - I would run for cover. Life is to precious to risk the dubious ministrations of an Affirmative Action med school graduate.

    Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida

    I have first-hand experience with more than a few black Physicians. I would never allow myself to be treated by one.

    I completely agree with you on the Chinese and Koreans though.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
    • Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @Another-Guy-in Florida


    I have first-hand experience with more than a few black Physicians. I would never allow myself to be treated by one.
     
    I wouldn't let one make my sandwich. Can you imagine deciding to allow one to do surgery on your eyeball?
    , @Bite Moi
    @Another-Guy-in Florida

    Another-Guy-in-Florida---------You may be able to see a black medical doctor and do OK.We have a couple of nurses in the family to review things for stupidity.That said,the old saw that a medical doctor can make you sick,but a surgeon can kill you remains true. Double dittos for anesthesiologists.

  84. There is no such thing as “too White.”

  85. @Patrick Boyle
    Are whites over represented among veterinarians? That's a more difficult question to question to answer than you might imagine.

    Many black activists assume every job population should be 50-50 whites and blacks. However most people aren't that stupid. America has 197.2 million non-Hispanic whites and about 44 million blacks. So if it were just by a simple head count it should be 82-18.

    Now let's consider intelligence. As has been noted vets need to be smart. They make a lot less than a doctor who takes human patients but they need to know a similar number of diseases and conditions. Fewer diseases and in less depth than doctors who treat humans but more species. Vets go to four years of med school as do MDs, but MDs usually have a couple more years of post-doctoral training. MDs have an IQ of 120 to 125. My doctor is Korean and South Korea has the highest population average IQ of any nation. At better urban medical centers the doctors are probably more like 125-130. The vets are possibly a little lower but I can find no source on veterinarian IQs.

    The IQ mean was set at 100 with a standard deviation of 15. This is convenient because blacks are almost exactly one SD lower in IQ, and doctors and vets can be approximated as 2 SDs smarter than average. Medical doctors are the smartest profession that most people meet in everyday life. Theoretical physicists as a group are smarter than doctors, but lawyers as a whole are a little less smart.

    So to make the math easy let's say vets have an average IQ of 130. That's probably a little high but if you want a better calculation do your own calculations.

    Averages only matter near the mean - IQs around 100. Because the Normal curve has asymptotic tails small differences around the mean get magnified at the extremes. So at an IQ of 130 only about 2% of the population will qualify. That is in the white population. In the black population barely 0.1% have that high of an IQ. You can look these areas under the curve in any z table.

    That's 17 times fewer people at the "gifted' level for blacks. Multiply 17 times 4.5 for total population size and you get 76.5 times. That means our prior expectation for the race of a veterinarian would be 76.5 times as many whites as blacks.

    If you never took stat and don't know what a z table is, this sounds crazy. But the Gaussian Curve the "Normal" Curve exaggerates small differences at the mean to very large differences at the tails. The 15 point IQ lower score at the mean, means that blacks will be nearly absent (about 1%) in any high IQ job. This isn't a mistake or villainy it's just the math.

    Replies: @Another-Guy-in Florida, @Mycale

    Thanks for the numbers. Honestly, by the current standards of veterinary schools and the way the field operates, the black vets we do have are, very likely, qualified and competent. I would still rather have a white vet (just as I would rather live in a society filled with people who share my norms and values, in general), but the ones we have are likely just fine. We all know what comes next though. Affirmative action admissions, grading on a curve, loosening of standards, so on and so on, to the point where yet another industry which America excelled at is ruined, and you’re going to check LinkedIn for photos before you send Fluffy and Spot to the vet.

  86. @Another-Guy-in Florida
    @Patrick Boyle

    I have first-hand experience with more than a few black Physicians. I would never allow myself to be treated by one.

    I completely agree with you on the Chinese and Koreans though.

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @Bite Moi

    I have first-hand experience with more than a few black Physicians. I would never allow myself to be treated by one.

    I wouldn’t let one make my sandwich. Can you imagine deciding to allow one to do surgery on your eyeball?

  87. @Another-Guy-in Florida
    @Patrick Boyle

    I have first-hand experience with more than a few black Physicians. I would never allow myself to be treated by one.

    I completely agree with you on the Chinese and Koreans though.

    Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @Bite Moi

    Another-Guy-in-Florida———You may be able to see a black medical doctor and do OK.We have a couple of nurses in the family to review things for stupidity.That said,the old saw that a medical doctor can make you sick,but a surgeon can kill you remains true. Double dittos for anesthesiologists.

  88. @animalogic
    @Pilllow678

    "Even Caligula had more moral integrity than these American dog owners."
    Too right ! Caligula went that extra mile -- (assuming its not myth) he made his horse a senator -- perhaps there's a lesson there for us ?

    Replies: @Oil 'n Water, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Re: Caligula making his horse a senator

    And NY made Mrs Rodham-Clinton a senator, yet some still have the temerity to accuse Caligula of being insane.

  89. @fnn
    IIRC, US veterinarians are about 80% female. It's a generally not very high-paying job that attracts women who really like animals. Non-whites with above average IQs can easily find more lucrative careers.

    Replies: @Dave453

    Theres no way that number is accurate.

  90. @Wake up
    Some big problems with trying to have more Black Veterinarians.
    1. To be a Veterinarian requires extreme intelligence.
    2. Dogs hate Blacks.

    Replies: @Former Liberal, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @Dave453

    Dogs are usually good judges of character, thats one reason they dislike blacks.

    • Agree: Lancelot_Link
  91. @DrWatson
    It looks like there aren't that many black human doctors either: only 5% https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/workforce/interactive-data/figure-18-percentage-all-active-physicians-race/ethnicity-2018

    Could it be that going to med school is very tasking and just getting in is quite difficult?

    Replies: @DukeNukem, @Anon, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @Dave453

    Most of them dont belong there.
    Affirmitive action doctors is one of the biggest problems and causes of death in this country, yet it is verboten to mention it

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