Try and make a city safer using cutting edge technology, immediately get called out for white privilege, systemic racism, implicit bias, shade equity, heat islands, and white supremacy… [What’s the Human Role in ShotSpotter Gunfire Detection System? CEO Explains, WTTW.com, January 28, 2023]:
Some Chicago communities are monitored by an acoustic-based gunshot detection system that pinpoints the location of gunfire.
This technology — used by the Chicago Police Department — is known as ShotSpotter. It alerts law enforcement to potential gunfire and claims to reduce gun violence in communities.
According to ShotSpotter CEO Ralph Clark, the technology is able to tell the difference between gunfire and fireworks.
“We do that through combining software with a network of sensors that have the ability to understand a loud popper boom noise,” Clark said. “After we’ve identified the specific location of that particular event, we go through some steps to filter out those incidents that aren’t gunshots, leaving the ones that are gunshots to be published typically within 30-45 seconds of the trigger pull. What makes the technology so compelling is that we know from our work, and what’s been independently studied and analyzed by folks, is that 80-90% of outdoor criminal gunfire goes unreported effectively. Traditional 911 is broken for those communities that are suffering from ongoing persistent gun violence.”
The system also involves a trained acoustic gun expert listening in real time. The company claims it has about a 97% accuracy rate.
“The technology does a really good job of identifying the location of loud pops, booms and bangs,” Clark said. “It then goes through an extra step of filtering out those pops, booms and bangs that it has 100% confidence is not gunfire. We then leave everything else to go into our incident review center, where we have trained acoustic experts that listen to and look at these events in real time. It’s important to note that these individuals have tools specifically to be able to replay the recorded incident and be able to look at sensor participation, the graphic of the waveform of the sensors listening to multiple sensors outdoors. They’re effectively a virtual witness to an incident of gunfire. … They have the ability to listen to multiple sensors’ worth. That review process can take anywhere from 30 to 45 seconds, and what that leaves is vetted alerts that then get published to a subscribing agency.”
Critics, meanwhile, argue the technology does little to curb crime, costs too much and leads to excessive police responses in Black and Latino communities.
In 2021, Chicago’s Office of Inspector General found that fewer than one in 10 ShotSpotter alerts between 2020 and 2021 resulted in evidence of a gun-related criminal offense being found.
Clark said the report doesn’t address the technical efficacy of ShotSpotter — it’s posing a question around operational value.
“Although 10% might sound small, you have to look at the nominal number of what’s in that 10%,” Clark said. “We know from looking at the same data that the OIG Report produced, ShotSpotter led to 1,100 gunshot-wound victims coded by the data that OIG looked at. Eight hundred of those 1,100 gunshot-wound victims did not have a corresponding 911 call. It means that ShotSpotter was the means by which first responders got to those folks that were potentially bleeding out and potentially saving a percent of those lives.”
Some community members criticize the use of ShotSpotter technology, claiming it’s ineffective, as reported by the OIG, and contributes to overpolicing in Black and brown communities.
“I haven’t seen any evidence of that,” Clark responded. “I’ve heard people say that, but I haven’t seen evidence of that taking place. What I see a lot more evidence of is ShotSpotter getting police to gunshot-wound victims.”
So if ShotSpotter technology correctly identifies gunshots as happening in communities devoid of white people and with a surplus of non-whites (black and brown people, who produce black and brown individuals collectively committing nearly all the gun violence), it’s a bad thing police departments spend more resources trying to make these communities safer.
It’s stories such as these you realize how truly noble the motives and aims of the American Colonization Society were…
If white people were to completely abandon a city inhabited by now non-whites, deprive this population of all technology exclusively created by white people (ShotSpotter) and eliminate pesky police from the equation, how long until all semblances of western civilization evaporate in this scenario?
Once society agrees to cover up black crime (our site reports on media gag orders, aka style books), society starts getting brainwashed, and to live in a false dream world. From one false belief follows another, leads to CRT nonsense. Another step to calling shot detection “racist” comes naturally
The 90% shootings that do NOT lead to police cases are WHAT? Not technical failures, probably “snitches get stitches” assaults or some dispute without injuries. Oh, and police are glad to help the cover-up. Police are scared to have too many criminal cases against Blacks.
a) these cases are complex and hard to solve (snitches get stitches), and more importantly
b) the entire police department is under “equity” orders, they have to find equal percentages of Black criminals and the rare white (lowercase) criminals.
Another very well done article.Thank you.
But as my pet peeve says, about this…
“ongoing persistent gun violence”
“Maybe” “we” “should” ax the guns to
be mo nice.Or,…”they” should go back to
using sharp sticks to avoid all of the
“noise pollution” so as to not need all
of this intelligent,wonderful,expensive,
profitable,life saving,patented new tech.
I’d really like to see your reality,from afar,
of leaving “them” to “their” “own” cities>
We “could” call it “an experiment in die
varsity” and sell tickets.” Will be rich.
Just add this to the list of racist things in the world. Names, dates, places, things of all sorts and types are racist. The list will continue to grow and nobody, especially politicians, will have the guts to call the people that dream these things nuts. The news media could have a field day, oops I forgot that field is racist, running video of these lunatics and the rants they have. Reopen the asylums!
The best reason for getting rid of this technology? “800 of those 1100 gunshot wound victims did not have a corresponding 911 call. (And they are so f’ing stupid they can’t see that this tech saves their miserable disgusting lives).
For once, it’d be nice if one White person in a position of power in instances like this had the the stones to call out nig whining with a commanding FO. Frankly, a better use of this technology would be if shots are determined to be coming from the hood, ignore them outright. Of course, cue the nig whining in 3-2-1…. They don’t care, we’re not important, blah, blah. As stated many times around here, whites simply cannot win in dealing with these creatures.
“A bullet always tells the truth” ~ Denzel Washington as John Creasy, Man on Fire
Let me get this right,
Ambulances are not dispatched to 911 calls, they are dispatched as a result of acoustic shot detenction software? Skynet is real.
Everything that truthfully reveals that blacks are dumb, violent, and lazy is racist.
Another proof that race-ism is awesome.
It protects people from black savagery.
It seems to work in Baltimore–police know which corner to go and find the body or bodies.
I’m wondering what the gunshot detector was supposed to accomplish anyway in neighborhoods where snitches get stitches. Gunshots detected, police rush to the scene (yeah right), and then what?
Under current ghetto conditions, just a boondoggle for whoever is selling the system.
I think it’s to lure cops into the area so they can be shot or prosecuted for shooting the thugs.
A sane society would want a policeman to show up every time a gun is discharged in an *urban* area, regardless of the reason: murder, accidental discharge, shooting at cans, whatever. Gunshots are lethal and urban areas are crowded. I can’t think of a good reason for a cop not to at least make sure nothing is wrong when a gun is fired *in the city*.
We clearly don’t live in a sane society.
Since “800 of those 1100 gunshot wound victims did not have a corresponding 911 call” this simply proves that the majority of blacks don’t care, and their lives don’t matter to each other. So, why should anyone else care? Just leave them to it. Besides, what sense does it make to save some gangbanger’s life just so he can eventually go back out on the streets blasting away at other gangbangers? That too is a waste of time, effort, energy and money.
As Shane said, a gun is as good or bad as the person using it.
Blacks + Guns is like Gasoline + Match.
So-called ‘progressives’ lionize thuggish blacks as saints while grabbing guns away from law-abiding whites.
Michael Finlay wanted to bring in more “refugees” to further the destruction of the West. Can’t say I mind him getting vibracized.
This shooting in the hood had a 911 call for shots fired. Most likely black on black gun violence in spite of strict gun laws (that do nothing to deter blacks).
It will a similar situation when they develop robots to patrol bad neighborhoods and people will say the robots are racist, probably programmed by racist whites and Asians.
Sincerity.net——————No need to spot a damn thing.Wall off black areas,and juet let them eat each other.
A damned great use of their technology would be if they were able to paint the shooter with a laser designator & drop a JDAM on it’s noggin in real time.
>Try and make a city safer using cutting edge technology
This system isn’t going to make anyone safer Kersey — all it can do is identify likely gunshots, after which police may arrive a few minutes later when the shooters are long gone.
Did you read the article? — it’s fairly milquetoast, and your complaints seem overdone — in fact, I tend to side with those who criticize use of the system, as their essential points (i.e. ignoring the bullshit racial policing concerns) seem correct:
So what is the major benefit of this system? — the CEO of the company that provides it spells it out:
So there you have it: this system enables EMS to reach gunshot victims sooner, since a big majority of shooting incidents it identifies do not otherwise result in a 911 call.
Let’s think about this for a minute: who are these shooting victims? — the answer is clear: generally they are the same as the perpetrators, meaning young black (or Hispanic) male ghetto trash and gangbangers.
So the largest effect of this system is probably to get the wounded to the hospital sooner (no doubt a public hospital), so they can be patched up at taxpayer expense, and then sent back out onto the street to continue their lives of crime (assuming they aren’t wanted or charged themselves).
Analysis: Homicides Cost Chicago $2.5 Billion
Unsurprisingly, the vast majority of the cost for a shooting victim is due to ‘acute trauma care’, as well as follow-up at a rehabilitation facility.
I live in a town that is 99.8% white. It has three gun clubs and plenty of deer. I can hear gunfire on a daily basis. Nobody calls 911. Everybody knows what it is and where it is coming from. There is zero crime aside from an occasional DUI. Everybody has guns. The cops do not have Shot Spotter and there is no need for it.
It would be interesting to know how many people think about the logical consequences involved in these stories. The solution to “urban” problems is not more police; the solution is to stop pretending Western civilization is transferrable to people who have no concept of it.
what town? or tell us the county n state.
photo at top..2 wear masks. idiot leftists.
In a sane and healthy society, crime is so low that people would assume a gunshot was a non-event. They would check it out, find a nothing-burger and go about their lives.
Pretending to rationalize and therefore excuse criminality with ‘urban area’ and ‘city’ just makes it more cynical.
When did Western civilization turn into Africa?
The police need to do what the jews do, and that is to put up bullet-proof manned observation towers closer to the action. A couple on each block maybe. Or maybe not and just leave them be. Put the money and resources into something more worthwhile, like buying big statues of infamous negroes. Similar to how North Korea puts up impressively big statues as well.
>how many people think about the logical consequences
>stop pretending Western civilization is transferrable
Exactly — keep that in mind the next time you hear some civnat conservatard talk about ‘Democrat-run cities’ — do a search to see how often that term occurs.
Noooooooo! Nooooo! Why, God? WHHHYYYY?
Going through Scott’s history with marijuana use, his history of not attending school, and not taking medication relating to various depression and anxiety diagnoses, Judge Dorsey said Scott is “living an adult lifestyle.”
“This court finds that a person who participated in such a brazen, daylight shooting, would do so in the future given the opportunity,” Judge Dorsey said, adding he thought Scott is “a threat to public safety.”
The judge also took issue with what he said was a lack of remorse for Scott’s actions and empathy for the family of the victim.
Even though the Department of Juvenile Services has programs available to help Scott turn his life around, Judge Dorsey said, “the evidence is overwhelming this defendant is not amenable to treatment because of his lack of willingness.”
“There is no evidence of him being teachable.”
With all of the huffing on social media about the Tyre Nichols beating and the need to abolish the police, I have suggested why not try it? There are enough cities in America that blacks and/or extreme progressives control politically to make this move if they want. Show everyone else that a different way is possible, and absent the racist institution of government-enforced public order, POCs will produce peaceful communities in which everyone lives up to their potential.
Deep down, I do think a majority of blacks and their political sponsors know that if whites took their bat and ball and went home, their town will end up a total wreck in relatively short order. They try tinkering at the margins, like with public schools and the effect is to drive away a lot of middle class parents who do not want to subject their kids to public school but cannot afford private. Ironically this is an effective way to increase progressive political power and indulge in their worst instincts because the whites that are left are upper middle class who are more likely to align themselves with progressives (while buying their way out of the consequences) and the somewhat less well off who leave are more conservative in disposition and would have been a moderating force.
Fine with me. I hope the black “activists” get exactly what they want. Let’s keep ShotSpotter in White neighborhoods only.
I’m tired of taxpayers paying tens of thousands of dollars for the ER to treat Trayvon after he gets blasted by Jamarcus. Hell, I’m tired of Trayvon and Jamarcus, period.
Let them bleed out.
There are thousands upon thousands of small white towns just like mine across New England, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois. Thousands.
Unfortunately most of these state governments are controlled by Negroes, Jews and liberal communist women in urban centers like Philadelphia, New York, and Chicago teeming with nonwhites. I live in a very good, very white, very safe, very segregated small town in a politically terrible state.
This is similar to the commonality of everyone having a cellphone these days as well, otherwise the homicide rates in cities like Chicago/Baltimore would probably be triple. Being able to instantly call 911, instead of having to find a working payphone or landline saves precious minutes, minutes that would have led to these hoodrats bleeding out and expiring in the gutter 25 years ago.
Did you think he is lying?
Most states have a town near a gun range. It’s really not a big deal unless you live pretty close. A mile away just sounds like small pops.
Being near duck hunting is a lot louder but you get used to it.
My neighbor sometimes shoots his AR-15 at 8 in the morning.
This is all pretty normal in the country.
Ambulances are not dispatched to 911 calls, they are dispatched as a result of acoustic shot detenction software? Skynet is real.
It can also distinguish between multiple shooters and calibers. They can see the general direction of the shot so the data can be used in a court case. What they will do is pair it with cell phone data to show that the perp was in that spot when the shots were fired. Of course most of the time it is just used to collect victims.
There was actually a big shootout in the middle of the day in Chicago and only shotspotter called it in. Right next to all kinds of apartment buildings.
Liberals have been wanting to get rid of it for years. The main complaint is actually that the cities have to pay for it. Liberals argue that the funding should go to “programs” of course.
It would be just like defund the police.
SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA!!!
(2 months later)
That was a really stupid idea. Bring back the police…NOW.
“There is no evidence of him being teachable.”
That phrase applies to 98% of them, men, women, and children.
I said urban area because people hunt in suburban and rural areas. No need for police to check on quail hunters. Quail hunting in the city can be dangerous.
albany rochester etc ny has lots of blacks.
Just stop wasting the money on this expensive technology to save these ungrateful apes. Let nature take its course. Better than being racist…amirite???
eah————The only “program” that has had any measureable effect on black crime is Planned Parenthood.
OT: On Wednesday, a nine-year-old girl received a concussion from a brutal beating on a school bus. The two adults present did not intervene. Happened in Florida.
Attacked by man-sized feral and little shit apprentice.
Only one of the nine sites I checked mentioned that the girl is White.
The 2.5 billion figure for Chicago is not surprising.
A couple of years ago, I did a search on annual expenses incurred for shooting victims in the U.S. , and the figures varied wildly. Johns Hopkins reported 4 billion while other sources ranged to as high as 30 billion.
All things considered, I’d tend to lean towards the latter figure.
Amren has it. Sickening. Saddest part is that the parent (I believe only a mom was mentioned) sends her 2 young kids to a 98% orc school. WTF. She should be charged with child abuse.
It is remarkable that two white college football players could be “lured” by two “young women” like the one pictured in court for her “roll” [sic] in the case.
Maybe it’s a branding issue–How about changing the name from “ShotSpotter” to “NiggNailer”?
Truth in advertising…
Surprisingly there is a good French-made (racist?) movie on Amazon Prime. There are uncountable “shots fired” – lots of gunfire.
It is “15 Minutes Of War” (2019)
featuring Olya Kurylenko (Bond Girl in Quantum Of Solace), the other actors are French.
The movie is based on true events not disclosed for 40 years (would have been after Captain Philips movie with Tom Hanks in 2013, with the same synchronized sniping by Navy Seals to deal with Somali negro pirates.)
In 1976 in the last French colony in Africa, Somali negroes jack a bus of white French school children and hold them hostage because they want France to return land to Somalia.
An elite French sniper team takes the kidnappers out with synchronized sniping (like in Captain Philips) and then engages in a firefight with many Somali negro soldiers.
Never have I seen so many negroes shot in a movie except maybe in the old Zulu movies wherein the British win but those don’t seem to be available any more (bc racist?).
This is an incident in which rhe shot spotter was helpful:
I’m trying my darndest to try to find the Zulu movies in resale shops.
The police would most likely not like to “turn up” when firearm discharges are detected on MLK Blvd.
I would suspect that a sane society would certainly approve of the lack of police action where no humans are involved or endangered.
I have a question perhaps someone here could answer:
Does the ShotSpotter system detect the sounds of gun discharges when silencers are attached to them?
If the answer to my question is “no” or even a “not usually” – and if it also turns that some jurisdiction has decided to install a new ShotSpotter system – then I would just recommend use of a silencer to anyone in said jurisdiction who just wants to do some safe and legal target shooting on their own property – but only if this is also legally possible, of course.
I also already know that silencers have their limitations, and that they will not work with each and every type of firearm out there.
my thoughts are similar. I recall what the front of the house [and street] looked like..who would go there, esp after dark. they were young [dumb].
I was charged $1800 to get 10 stitches in my finger 10 years ago. This was for a cut that was maybe 1 inch in length, a shot of lidocaine, and a prescription for antibiotics.
The ER costs of emergency surgery to remove a bullet, let alone multiple ones, plus testing, hospital stay, etc has to easily be over $100k per case. If any posters on this site know or can give a ballpark average, please do, because I’m sure the real “Hidden Figures” costs for treating these hoodrats is much higher than the hospitals/government is willing to admit.
Well yeah, because the purpose of gun control laws is to get guns out of the hands of law-abiding white people.
Once they find out about your town, they will wreck it too. These are people who have ruined what were once the greatest cities in the country. Wrecking small towns is a piece of cake, comparatively speaking, and just a matter of time since there are so many.
The French colony of Santo Domingo was the richest colony in the Western Hemisphere. When the blacks took control, there was nothing stopping them from continuing production of valuable cash crops but instead they decided to murder the remaining white population and Haiti was born. (side note- a lot of the French influence we see in New Orleans came from after the French period of rule, when whites fleeing Santo Domingo settled in Louisiana in the early 1800’s.)
I had a buddy whose national guard unit was called up and deployed for peace keeping duty in Haiti. Shortly after arriving, they were patrolling a village in there zone and saw a dead body of an obviously murdered man laying on the side of the road, near hovels, street vendor’s etc. Apparently people just walked on by, no one claimed the body, no one investigated it, no one removed the body. The next day they returned, and the body was still there getting very ripe. His unit went beyond there orders and tried to investigate it, all they discovered was the man’s family. They told the family to remove and bury the body and the family refused. They actually had to order the family at gun point to take care of it. FYI his unit traded in there M-16’s for the much older and heavier M1 rifles. Why you ask? They used the heavy stocks of M1’s as persuaders, apparently their quite effective in that role.
Realtor.comstopped including a crime map of a community on its house search website. Seems it let searchers know which areas of a town or city to avoid.