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We have reached a point where a white pugilist competing against a black pugilist must immediately capitulate, because of the color of the formers skin.

Welcome to 2020 America! [White Boxer Called Racist for Knocking Out Black Opponent, Moonbattery, December 13, 2020]:

Political correctness has reached such an extreme of absurdity that it is considered racist for a white guy to punch a black guy — even in a boxing match. Jemele Hill, formerly of ultrawoke ESPN, suggested during an interview that white boxer Jake Paul is racist for knocking out black opponent Nate Robinson.

Via Breitbart:

Paul appeared on the show Hill co-hosts with Cari Champion, called Cari & Jemele (Won’t) Stick to Sports, in which the two regularly mix politics with sports.

During the interview, Hill asked Paul, “Considering where we are right now in our racial conversation in America, was what you did to Nate Robinson racist?”

“That is the question of the week,” Champion chirped before Paul answered.

At first, Paul couldn’t believe they were serious. But they persisted. Hill asserted that “it’s a sensitive time right now, we just had to witness a white man knock out a black man smooth out in front of all of America, and that’s why I asked that.”

Then Champion asked him the same question. To his credit, Paul failed to denounce himself for racism.

[B]efore moving on to other topics, Champion accused Paul of not being “woke” enough and refusing to be part of the “conversation.”

Liberals must not have eradicated the last vestiges of sanity, because Hill got enough public flak that she was forced to fall back on the lame “Can’t you tell I was only kidding” defense.

In the future, white boxers will be required to stand with their hands at their sides while black boxers pummel their faces. Even if this fails to create racial harmony, it will at least provide masturbatory material for Democrats.

Funny, white Americans are required to stand with their hands at their sides while their nation is pummeled.

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  1. Polistra says:

    It’s not peak w6okeness. That won’t be achieved until we are like the Congo.

  2. In the future, white boxers will be required to stand with their hands at their sides while black boxers pummel their faces.

    – As we are fully expected to do just that in every other aspect of competition –
    career, rutting, debate – I fail to see why sports should be given a Persilschein.

    Praise St. Fentanyl the Breathless this ugly vestige of wayciss backwoodsness is finally addressed – I was beginning to develop cognitive dissonance 😀

    • LOL: Pat Kittle
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Detroit Refugee
  3. Uppity honkies of the world, unite!

  4. Wake up says:

    Jemele Hill is just like her other “Sistas”, Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris…unabashedly Pro-Black.

  5. We owe shitlibs this much: they have made secession a plausible solution in the minds of millions of Americans, including those who are usually apolitical.

  6. Considering where we are right now in our racial conversation in America, was…

    You’d think Paul entered the ring wearing a Klan robe and hood waving a burning cross and then proceeded to drag Robinson around the ring with a noose around his neck. Now that might warrant a racial conversation.

    • Agree: Adam Smith, Polistra
  7. His first mistake was giving those two negroes the time of day.

  8. Asinine.

    Shame on the man for continuing the interview. Shame on him for not throwing it back at them as being an absurd question.

  9. Jizmo says:

    Is anyone surprised? The Leftists are insane.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  10. White boxer knocks out black boxer in the ring:  “rayciss!”

    Blacks playing “Knockout King” against Whites MTOB:  crickets.

  11. Looking at Ms. Champion it would be hard for me to refrain from telling her black a$$ that her long, straight, blonde hair is far more racist than a sportsman getting bested in competition. I take offense to her appropriation of my culture. I guess she looks more feminine than the cohost, Shemale Hill.

    I believe this is the time to tell the black broadcasters that the wisdom of the African village warns us to “hate the game not the playa”. To hell with these negresses.

  12. You don’t understand. You mustn’t frustrate a black person as that’s “racist.”
    A black boxer wants to win and you don’t let him? Racist!
    A black man wants to date a white woman who has zero interest in him and refuses? Racist!
    A black person wants to shoplift from your store and you don’t let him or her? Racist!
    A black person has to pass the same test as everyone else instead of a dumbed down test? Racist!
    A black person breaks traffic laws and gets a ticket like everyone else? Racist!

    There’s a lot more instances that could be added to this list but you get the drift. Frustrating a black person causes them to feel offended and sad and that just won’t do. HOW DARE YOU! You’re insensitive and just trying to keep them down! They just want to be “happy” and you and your evil whiteness is preventing it! There is only one cure for your hateful ways- you must submit to everything a black person wants and give in to them utterly and completely in every way. Only then can you be blessed!

    That really is the entitlement mentality of many blacks and it’s not going to change except to become worse.

    • Agree: Sick 'n Tired
  13. Truth says:

    In the future, white boxers will be required to stand with their hands at their sides while black boxers pummel their faces.

    Oh so basically boxing will be like black-white streetfights, hahaha. No but seriously, The Proud Boys are carrying your mantle alone right now. You should enlist.

  14. This is the equivalent to your mom scolding you for not letting your little brother win a videogame. They’re a race of children who belong at the kid’s table until they can learn to act like adults

    • LOL: Lancelot_Link
    • Replies: @BanditOfBlithe
  15. @Non PC Infidel

    Well said. I am the one that is continually frustrated at work these days with low IQ chimpouts occurring everyday now though.
    I cant wait until I can go abroad again to a civilized country again. Negro fatigue sets in quickly these days.

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
  16. @Pop Warner

    They are definitely children. Look at the food and drink they gorge themselves on. Then the drugs and alcohol. Combined with low IQ and obnoxious behavior they swiftly turn into a large kindergarten class.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  17. Trinity says:

    Anyone here old enough to remember Duane Bobick? Bobick was one of the white hopes back in the day when Whites just couldn’t make much of an impact in boxing. Sure, you had the occasional world champs like Bobby Czyz, Ray Mancini ( one of the most overrated fighters ever IMO btw), Czyz isn’t in the boxing HOF but Mancini is? What the hell? Anyhow back to Bobick who was embarrassed by Ken Norton on national television. Norton had made it a habit of knocking off “white hopes” having taken care of an aging and past it, and much smaller Jerry Quarry, ( Quarry despite being much smaller would have beaten Norton in his prime IMO), Ron Stander, the giant Jack O’Halloran, if you can call these guys “white hopes.” People like to show the cruiserweight Quarry losing to Ali and Frazier, but never mention that Quarry knocked out Earnie Shavers, schooled the much larger Ron Lyle, beat fat boy Buster Mathis, Thad Spencer and dynamite punching Mac Foster all while being no taller than 6′ and weighing less than 200lbs in his prime.

    Bobick vs. Norton was on national prime time television and it ended in seconds and Bobick was a national punchline everywhere you went. Fast forward a couple years later and Norton was lucky to stagger to a draw with Scott Ledoux and an aging Norton barely hung on and beat another white boy named Tex Cobb. So Norton and his luck with white boys was wearing thin, enter Gerry Cooney. After Cooney nearly decapitated Norton in 54 seconds I believe was the count, there were no SNL skits mocking Norton, like it was nonstop on Duane Bobick. Wonder why?

  18. Trinity says:

    Well the headline is a bit misleading. Calling either one of these guys a boxer is a bit of an exaggeration. Maybe use the headline: White Youtuber Knocks Out Black Basketball Player.

    • Replies: @Kngddxfhjjk
  19. @BanditOfBlithe

    I know how you feel. I couldn’t leave the country but I did switch from a job working in a mental health setting (with black staff chimping out constantly and screaming everyone and everything was racist) to one working as a nuclear radiation worker/radworker. The Government background checks plus the level of testing that had to be passed eliminated the vast majority of blacks. It was my great escape from blacks before I retired and it was gloriously wonderful to be away from them. Such a relief!

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
  20. black fragility. they are so hurt if they lose at sports. it is all they have.

    nothing else to it. it is just a knock to their collective ego.

    • Replies: @The Truth
  21. @Non PC Infidel

    That’s great!! I too am now free of them. These are tough times for many reasons, but being free of DINDUS.? Words cannot describe that.

    • Agree: Non PC Infidel
  22. raga10 says:

    Damn, you are so easily triggered! Can’t you see they are trolling you? Yes, they were trolling Jake Paul, who himself is no stranger to trolling others. If you actually play that clip and you can’t tell this is not a serious conversation you’re seriously tone-deaf.

    But they are also trolling you, and it works. Now they are getting abuse and death threats for themselves and their children – and say what you will, that’s not OK, so now they do have a legitimate grievance.
    You’ve been played.

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  23. @nokangaroos

    Mr. NK,
    I still cannot believe how the US and then the world lost their collective minds over the whole Saint Floyd of the New Mogadishu debacle.

    It’s enough to fill a semester or two, as if Leftist Academia would allow that..!! Perhaps in the future Chinese students will study the advantages he wrought for them.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  24. Like spoiled 4-year old children. Every birthday gift has to be theirs, and every celebration has to be theirs.

  25. @Trinity

    I remember Duane Bobick. I’m even old enough to remember (age 8) Ingemar Johanssen stopping Floyd Patterson to win the heavyweight title.

    The Norton-Bobick travesty was Prime Time on NBC, May 11, 1977. Bobick didn’t resist or throw a punch, seemed to freeze.

    The Paul interview was kind of “serious.” A check of the internet found something called Barrett Sports who said the two black females were trying to bait Paul into saying something “cancel-worthy.”

    • Replies: @Trinity
  26. Trinity says:
    @David In TN

    Damn Ingo goes way back. I was born in 1961 so Ingo had come and gone before my arrival. haha. I think Ingo knew to get out while the getting was good because Sonny Liston ushered in the era of the bigger heavyweight. Bobick beat Larry Holmes in the Olympic Trials but would be flattened by Teofilio Stevenson in the Olympics. Stevenson would also flatten Big John Tate who in turn would end poor Duane’s career with yet another nationally broadcast ( although not prime time) knockout defeat in the 1st round. Duane had a brother who boxed professional as well named Rodney. Rodney would lose to Larry Holmes on the Ali vs. Foreman undercard if I remember right. I think Duane looked the best when he beat Chuck Wepner, the fringe contender, who claims he was the inspiration for the film, “Rocky.” Duane and Rodney both beat former heavyweight champion Mike Weaver in their earlier professional bouts before Weaver took the sport serious and became champion. Duane had talent but was obviously susceptible to the overhand rights and he might have been the type that froze when it mattered the most. Big guy, no chin though, I believe he had a horrible accident that either took his arms or mangled him up badly, would have to check on that one. Bobick only lost to the best, losing to Kallie Knoetzee, Norton, Tate (all fought for the title and Norton and Tate were champions) wasn’t anything to be ashamed of, even the way he lost, it happens. Even George Chapin, the other loss on Bobick’s ledger of 48-4, was a decent fighter. I think the best of the “white hopes” for the heavyweight takeover with the Klitschko brothers and Tyson Fury, was Tommy Morrison. Cooney had talent and size but was small mentally, while Quarry had talent and a huge heart, but he was just too small and cut easily. The South Africans produced Coetzee and Knoetzee, both good fighters, Coetzee even won a partial title in ’84. Morrison, like both the Bobick brothers, Rodney died in a car crash, had a tough life after boxing, of course Morrison died of the AIDS virus. RIP Tommy, Jerry Quarry and Rodney Bobick.

  27. they’re just mad some guy who’s not even a professional athlete in any sport was able to brutally knock out a guy who won the Slam Dunk contest 3 times, and was paid 25 million dollars to play in the NBA for 10 years.

    since the mid 90s, ESPN has been peddling the idea that basketball players, or more specifically, african basketball players, are the World’s Greatest Athletes, and would dominate any sport they wanted – they just play basketball because basketball is the most important and hardest sport. if he wanted to though, Lebron James could easily dominate any sport he wanted – in particular, he could knock out any boxer if that’s the sport he wanted to dominate.

    nobody thought this before the first Chicago Bulls championship run from 91 to 93. before that, football and baseball players were correctly held as the best athletes in general. hoopsters, while good athletes, were tall and skinny, and weren’t the great all around athletes that other guys were. but suddenly after that first Michael Jordan run, almost overnight NBA players were transformed into the World’s Greatest Athletes with the myth repeated like a mantra for decades from then on.

    really all that happened was that they started weight training, so they weren’t stringbeans anymore, as a youtube perusal thru NBA action from the 50s to the early 90s would show. their athletic ability didn’t change – it’s still highly specialized for vertical play, and jumping. you never run or jump in a boxing ring, and they are bad at boxing – not just not good, but bad. their coordination outside of hoops is actually bad on average, due to being so specialized for height and long arms and vertical jumping.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @dindunuffins
  28. @Trinity

    Steve Sailer still treats boxing this way. he very rarely talks about boxing, but he made an entire separate post to make fun of Tyson Fury for getting knocked down by Deontay Wilder. in a match where Fury outboxed Wilder by a good amount and should have been awarded the decision. he didn’t care about that part, only that a white guy got punched hard and knocked down by a black guy.

    He ignored the rematch where Fury pulverized Wilder. he wouldn’t talk about it even under the pretense of discussing gypsy culture or other esoteric social topics which he is interested in. if Wilder wins a rematch though, i bet he’ll suddenly post about boxing again.

    Sailer completely ignored fat mexican Andy Ruiz knocking out Anthony Joshua in the biggest upset in boxing in 15 years. why would he care about that? the wrong thing happened, and besides, he doesn’t care about boxing. only seeing white guys getting knocked the hell out.

    like half the boxing world, once eastern europeans were allowed to box professionally, Sailer probably tuned out of boxing completely after too many africans from the US lost their belts to other guys. there’s an entire population of former boxing fans for whom the last 20 years never happened.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  29. Duane Bobick’s main problem was that he had bad defense. not that he couldn’t take a punch. he could take a punch – which was why he was able to take a dozen hard punches before going down. kind of bad combination.

    i’m under the impression that during this stretch, the late 70s to early 90s, only Gerrie Coetzee and Francesco Damiani were ever briefly champions. Tommy Morrison was a good amount better than those guys.

    i do wonder if by the 80s they weren’t even trying that hard – they don’t look that good on youtube and clearly wouldn’t be competitive today. boxing was hard, an average job paid more unless you were a contender, and better to leave that stuff to the africans. boxing is a poor man’s sport after all. and eastern europeans are poorer than africans in America.

  30. RickTen99 says:

    Breaking news! Major League Baseball has announced new rules. Black baseball players will now get 4 strikes before being out, 3 balls for a walk. All singles are now doubles, doubles are now triples. Anything that is hit to the outfield past a new “black home run line”, similar to the 3 point line in blackaball, will be a home run. PLAY BALL!!!

  31. @Detroit Refugee

    Agreed there would be a lot to study …
    it was very carefully kindled, but not by the Chinese; it has set back the SJW by more than a decade, though most of the visible organization were Sorosoids; and I refuse to believe in a devilishly smart 4D chess player.

    The Chinese will smile politely … 😀

  32. Trinity says:
    @prime noticer

    Fighters are not great athletes either. Have you ever seen Mike Tyson shoot hoops? Manny Pacquiao in the batting cage? Joe Frazier try to swim in the old SuperStars events? Actually the basketball player was shorter than Paul. I don’t watch basketball but I was amazed at how short the guy is, don’t know what his listed height is but what is Paul? 6’1″ or 6’2″? Don’t know enuff about either one to care, neither one is a legit boxer. I really can’t think of a world class fighter who might have been a good all around athlete, most start boxing when they are very young like Ali and Tyson do nothing else. Sugar Ray Leonard tried track and wrestling when he was younger and admittedly he sucked at both. And fighters like Ray Mercer and James Toney, while elite boxers and champions have done unremarkable in the octagon. Art Jimmerson, the infamous guy with one boxing glove who entered in UFCI was defeated by Royce Gracie in seconds if memory serves me right. I love boxing, and I WAS a rabid boxing fan, but fighters generally aren’t exactly Jim Thorpe as a rule. I know that Norton was a good athlete in high school, Quarry was pretty good baseball player, Roy Jones Jr., apparently was “decent” at basketball and Manny is, well just say Manny plays basketball and it helps his calve development. etc.

    A basketball or football player will be good at what they practice, that athleticism while helpful won’t necessarily travel over to boxing, especially against anyone with experience. Believe me, IF you put someone like Mike Tyson on the football field, despite Tyson being built like a cross between a pit bull and Dick Butkus, Tyson would fail miserably. Michael Jordan SUCKED at baseball. Hmm, how about Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker in their prime with a little training? I know Herschel dabbled in MMA. Those guys might be a different story, but then again they might not be anything special. Apples and oranges.

    • Replies: @prime noticer
  33. Trinity says:
    @prime noticer

    Yep, I remember when boxing was a top tier sport, admittedly MMA took away some of boxing’s thunder, HOWEVER, networks like (((ESPN))) decided when the Eastern European invasion came along that boxing wasn’t that important UNLESS it was about Floyd Mayweather Jr or MAYBE, Manny Pacquaio. There was an Eastern European who did turn pro back in the day, I guess he immigrated somewhere, anyhow, his name was Mate Parlov. He won the light heavyweight championship when at the time the light heavyweight division might have been its best ever in the mid 1970s to early 1980s. The biggest JOKE out there is the movie, “The Great White Hope” starring James Earl Jones as Jack Johnson, I believe they call the character Jack Jefferson or something like that, everyone knows it is about Johnson. Giant James Beattie, a real life heavyweight fighter back in the day played the part of Jess Willard, Beattie was even bigger in real life than Willard. Matter of fact, Jack Johnson is another MYTH. Jack Johnson mostly made his name fighting men that were much smaller like Tommy Burns 5’7.5″ and 178-180lbs or Sam Langford at 5’7″-5’8″ and all of 165-180lbs. Langford was great but Johnson was 6’1.5″ and around 195-198lbs in his prime. Johnson beat up a retired for 5 years Jim Jeffries who had to lose over 100lbs before he fought Johnson. Willard beat a washed up 38 year old Johnson fair and square and Johnson didn’t throw the fight. Fact is that Johnson lost to a much younger, much larger opponent. Willard wasn’t all that much of a fighter but despite his size he had tremendous stamina. Watch the movie, “The Great White Hope and watch the fight scene depicting how Johnson could have won the fight but decided when he was going to throw it. Why wait 20 plus rounds in the hot Cuban sun? Why not throw the fight in the first couple of rounds. Like everything, WE HAVE BEEN FED LIES.

    • Replies: @loren
  34. @Jim in Jersey

    Shame on him for not throwing it back at them as being an absurd question.

    Should have said. ” Yeah, I was the master of the ring that night”.

    • LOL: Polistra
  35. D-FENS says:

    This is for the previous post. I hope the military gets so diverse, they couldn’t even win a paintball competition. So when the jews get us into a war with Iran they get their asses handed to them.

    And no, I don’t “thank them for their service”, I CONDEMN them for serving the government. Why is it that we spend so much on “defense” to supposedly deter enemies yet we constantly get bogged down in wars with tinpot dictators of third world shitholes?

    What is more pathetic than some potbellied boomer with a ball cap that say “Vietnam Veteran”? Who the fuck cares? Am I supposed to thank you? For what? You lost a war that everyone regards as a colossal mistake. If you were drafted you were a victim. If you enlisted, your were a fool.

    While I can respect the abilities of someone in the Special Forces or naval aviation, their services are wasted serving a government that doesn’t deserve such people.

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
  36. The Truth says:
    @roman nose

    LOL! That’s so true isn’t it? They are complete and total losers at everything else. Even then they can’t even excel at sports without whitey. For an example D’Amato, Jim Jacobs, Mike Rooney with the loser Tyson. Tyson became great because of those men. They knew what they were doing. Tyson didn’t. You never see a “great” athlete coming out of Africa. You always see one coming from a great white coach, period. They “found” an exception did they? So what! Exceptions prove the rule. Exceptions overthrow nothing.

  37. And what does a “great athlete” actually provide to society at large anyways?
    A lot of fat guys sitting home watching these athletes?

  38. @raga10

    Yes, they were trolling Jake Paul… If you actually play that clip and you can’t tell this is not a serious conversation you’re seriously tone-deaf.

    Playing the RaceCard has long since become an absurd joke, whether the joke is intentional or not.

    It’s almost never intentional.

  39. @prime noticer

    ….Fifty Eight Straight Years of Gold Medals in Basketball…WHITE MEN in the US used to dominate: basketball.

    2004…..Then U.S. Blacks get Bronze….The US had a solid 80 year track record of winning the GOLD MEDAL in basketball.
    NO sportsman in the entire world is paid as much as an American Black is paid to play BASKETBALL.
    Our Black professional basketball players competed against AMATEUR White basketball players.
    The media mania of US Black basketball players has no parallel.
    Corporate sponsorship of Blackball exceeds that of all corporate sponsorship for soccer in the entire rest of the world.
    Only has-been athletes in the countries whose WHITE players BEAT us play basketball, while the real athletes there play soccer.
    Few if any other countries permit professionals to play in an Olympics event which was DESIGNED for amateurs, not professionals.
    The children in no other country grow up playing, seeing, talking about, and virtually force fed basketball.
    The White men who beat our huge Black basketballers were SHORT.
    The US has the world’s best, if not only, basketball coaches.
    No sportsman in the world has better basketball equipment, training, and experience than an American Black.
    Our Blacks were backed by a multi-trillion dollar affirmative action infrastructure which NO MAN anywhere else on the planet benefits from, proof positive once and for all that affirmative action is a multi-trillion dollar FAILURE.

  40. Just a few facts to prove Marciano was the greatest heavyweight of all time
    -Only heavyweight champion to ever go 49-0
    -Only heavyweight champion to retire undefeated
    -Highest KO ratio in heavyweight history
    -Best chin in heavyweight history
    -Biggest heart in heavyweight history
    -Was impossible to keep down and had movie-like comeback wins
    -Every time he had a rematch he beat them faster than he did the 1st time
    -Dominated in an era where boxing was the biggest sport in the world
    -5 years after he started training; he knocked out the longest reigning champion of all time (Joe Louis)
    And accomplished all of this at 5’11” 188lbs with the shortest reach of any heavyweight champion. As you can see Rocky is in the discussion for greatest of all time even without the undefeated record. That 49-0 is just the icing on the cake.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
    • Replies: @Trinity
  41. Anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:

    Hoping for the state of Texas to secede from this utter disaster. I’ll leave Michigan, with my Lincoln , and the clothes on my back. Getting sicker by the day.

    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  42. AceDeuce says:

    I’d like to see you call Tex Cobb a “white boy” to his face. He’d beat you into a grease spot on the sidewalk.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  43. AceDeuce says:

    They didn’t win gold in ’72, but the Ruskies did play fast and loose with the rules.

    • Replies: @Swamp Fox
  44. AnalogMan says:
    @Non PC Infidel

    Not quite right. This is the nature of negroes since time immemorial, long before “racism” was a word.

    It’s much simpler than that. Negroes just can’t handle frustration, at all. It causes them to fly into an uncontrollable rage. Seriously. Any of those little irritations you listed can cause them to go from affable to murderous in an instant.

    Eliminate these creatures entirely from your life, for your life’s sake.

    • Agree: Sick 'n Tired
    • Replies: @BanditOfBlithe
  45. Trinity says:

    Calm down, Tiger, IF I called Tex Cobb, whom I admire very much, a “white boy” it was not meant as a sign of disrespect especially since I am even WHITER than Tex Cobb, YOU STUPID DOUCHEBAG. Look at all my posts on this thread, do I seem anti-White to you? smdh and lol. Actually most fighters are more rational and avoid confrontations over stupid stuff like being called, “white boy.” LMAO. Tex has a wonderful sense of humor and probably and IF I offended him, he would give more a verbal beatdown before resulting in dismantling me with his feet or hands. Tex was a decent kickboxer as well.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  46. loren says:

    were there some excellent Irish and Russian boxers, like 5-10 years ago?


    Google was off line this morning for 30 min. YouTube and the cloud too. Those are independent systems at Google. It was a test. Get ready.

  47. Trinity says:

    OH, NO, Marciano was not the greatest heavyweight ever. Marciano was lucky enough to fight in a mediocre era and fought at a time when smaller fighters like Ezzard Charles who was just a few pounds above the light heavyweight limit in his prime, in fact some say Charles was the greatest light heavyweight ever since he beat Archie Moore three times. Old Jersey Joe Walcott was a then ancient 38 years old, which is old for a fighter nowadays, back then it was ANCIENT. Archie Moore was old as well and and old Arch was about 5’11” but had to go through hell to make the light heavyweight limit of 175lbs. Actually Archie and Rocky weighed about the same for their fight, but I think Archie was the NATURALLY bigger man even though Archie started his career at middleweight.

    Marciano was a very hard puncher and perhaps the most physically fit man to ever fight in the ring, HOWEVER, IF Marciano had fought in the Sixties and Seventies and had to fight men like Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Ali, etc., he would have been far too small. Foreman would have ate him up. Ali would have been much too fast, too big and stopped him. Marciano vs. Liston? Same thing as Foreman. Frazier fought with the same style as Marciano, only Frazier had better movement albeit, not as good defensively as Marciano who was much harder to hit cleanly than people think. Marciano could punch with either hand while Frazier was basically a one handed fighter. Main thing. Frazier outweighed Marciano by 20lbs as well. People who fantasize that Marciano is one of the top heavyweight champions sound ridiculous as those people who say that Jack Johnson was in the top 5, I don’t know which is more ridiculous. IF you put Jerry Quarry in the era Marciano fought in, Jerry Quarry is heavyweight champion, now put Marciano in the era that Quarry fought in, and Marciano is a contender and not champion. You put Marciano in there with guys in the Tyson era and later when the heavyweights got even bigger and Marciano has no chance. Marciano vs Tyson Fury? Marciano is the better fighter but Tyson Fury is a good 10 inches taller, and something like 80lbs heavier. Sorry, most of Marciano’s early victims were in fact what in boxing is called, “tomato cans.” Marciano vs Mike Tyson? Man puleeeze. Tyson by early TKO, Marciano would walk right in and get hammered. Tyson too big, way too fast, too skilled. I keep it real, whether Black or White and in no way, shape or form is Marciano or Jack Johnson in the top 10 heavyweights of all time. Top 20? Now you are talking.

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
    , @Truth
  48. The black population has been conditioned by years of media lying propaganda that always portrays Whites as weak and blacks as strong. Ignoring the fact that the Strongest Man, and physical endurance Competitions are always won by White men; they believe that whites could never stand up to the brave black street fighters who are well known for their incredible courage of sucker punching old ladies from behind, and attacking 10 on 1.

    Like I said, the Liberal MSM media has spent decades doing everything they can to convince both blacks and Whites, that Whites can’t fight, and that blacks are the superior athlete. When a White upsets this ingrained propaganda narrative, blacks and their Liberal masters lose their minds.

    And for decades the same thing happened in Boxing when promoters like Don King ruled the nest. They purposely kept good white boxers out of the ring.

    Remember Boxing? It used to be a very popular national sport and pastime. And when black boxers were the overwhelming majority (thanks to the likes of Don King), the SJW MSM promoted it over the top and non-stop…. It often held the top billing in every newspaper, and newscast sport section. Heavyweight championships were major national events, televised at prime time, nationwide. The ‘Black’ winner would be glorified and assured million dollar commercial contracts, and bit parts on popular television shows.

    And then every once in a while they would give some unknown, out of shape white boxer a chance at the title, televise it nationally, and promote him as the “Great White Hope”. Knowing full well he was out of his league and would lose disastrously, all to reinforce the superiority of the black boxer.

    So extensive was this intentional anti-white bias, discrimination, and manipulation in the sport of boxing, that its had a profound effect on how people think. Becoming an accepted part of American popular culture, the belief among both blacks and whites, that “White boys can’t fight” and the black fist is an all powerful symbol of strength and masculinity. (Blatantly ignoring, of course, that real strength and fighting ability are in White male warriors who make up the vast and overwhelming majority of military Elite Combat Forces such as Delta Force, Navy SEALs, Marine Raiders, Air Force Pararescue, Army Rangers, Green Berets, Force Recon, etc., who know more ways to kill with just their bare hands, than these black supremacists knows how to die.)

    All this Black Boxing Superiority came crashing down when boxing was opened to European, Russian and Eastern Europe.

    Suddenly blacks were losing boxing matches to the point that white boxers now held the majority of Boxing Titles. The result? Boxing has virtually been erased from the American social conscience.

  49. @Trinity

    “Fighters are not great athletes either.”

    but nobody said they were. that’s the difference. the specific claim here, and the myth making from ESPN since the mid 90s, is that basketball players, more specifically, black basketball players, are superhuman athletes who would dominate any sport. this doesn’t get extended to the other basketball players of course.

    but not even jewish sportswriters in the early 90s believed that. it wasn’t until ESPN created that myth wholesale in the mid 90s that it started to become a thing. if you asked any sportswriters that question in 1991 they would say it’s plainly not the case. ask them again in 2001 and they’d say it’s self evidently the case.

    part of it was a campaign to promote the Jordan Bulls to increase viewership and sales, part of it was political. later on after the great Bulls teams were in the past it simply became political. sports tautology in the US became that the best black basketball player is the best athlete. America would easily win the World Cup if a couple basketball players just played soccer for a few years, didn’t you know? so how could the Slam Dunk champion get brutally knocked out by a guy who’s not even a professional in any sport? it must be racisms, because a high vertical means you da best at errthing.

  50. AceDeuce says:

    LOL. Struck a nerve, huh? Good.

    Yeah, I could tell that you’re white–I didn’t need to read your pretentious gasbag history. Using that term automatically makes you an Olympic-class putz. And your self-confessed admission that you meant no disrespect just makes it worse. You’re probably the kind of dorkwhite who uses “y’all” or “Imma keep it real” in your posts.

    I repeat: LOL.

    • Replies: @Truth
  51. @Trinity

    And don’t forget when Gerrie Coetzee knocked out Leon Spinks in short order. Or when he won the title by knocking out Dynamite Dokes.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  52. Jemele Hill is the prime example of affirmative action. This type of rot is killing industry, colleges and the armed forces.

    • Replies: @Augustus
  53. Christ, did we descend into sorts when I wasn’t looking?

    Who gives a shit beyond the content of the topic?

    • Agree: Lancelot_Link, AnalogMan
    • Replies: @WSG
  54. @AnalogMan

    Indeed. They constantly chimpout over ANY trivial matter.

    • Agree: Augustus
  55. @Trinity

    A person who boxes is a boxer

    • Replies: @Trinity
  56. Trinity says:

    Uh, yes, that is the point. This YouTube guy knocking out from what I have heard a talented basketball player ( I have never heard of Paul or the Black basketball player, not my cup of tea) proves diddly squat. The guy was a talented basketball player because he played basketball. For some strange reason, other athletes, often in sports like basketball or football, Lyle Alzado, Mark Gastineau, Too Tall Jones, but there have even been shot putters and Olympic weightlifter Paul Anderson, think they can just suddenly enter a boxing ring and succeed because they are exceptional athletes in other sports. Even Mayweather Jr. carried Conor McGregor before getting rid of him. So it is even stupid to expect a MMA fighter to attempt and fight a competent fighter much less a Mayweather Jr. in a boxing ring.

  57. @Anonymous

    You mean the state that contains the Children’s Transgender Clinic?

    Have fun drinking Lone Stars and losing your children to Tranny wokeness!

    • Replies: @BanditOfBlithe
  58. Why are you self-respecting Euro-Americans and Hispanic-Americans wasting your time watching ESPN and “sports”? You should be out teaching your children and grandchildren survival skills and marksmanship.

  59. Augustus says:
    @charles martell sinclair

    “Jemele Hill is the prime example of Affirmative Action.”

    She is also a racist bigot and this Affirmative Action is destroying all of our society. We are an ignorant nation to allow this guilt and dumbing down of our society.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @AnalogMan
  60. Swamp Fox says:

    They also lost in ’88, when they had a black coach, fatass John Thompson.
    They were trounced by an all-white

    • Replies: @Augustus
  61. there’s been a couple football players who were decent boxers, and a couple who were not, but football players are much better all around athletes, so there was nothing surprising about a few having success in a second career in boxing. they actually jump higher than basketball players on average too, which is the unspoken hate fact here. because they are stronger. NFL combine verticals are higher than NBA combine verticals. and all their other measurables are better too.

    it’s true that most people overestimate how much overlap in ability there is between a guy at the international level in one sports versus another sport. but there’s never been more disinformation about that than now, after the NBA propaganda campaign began. it must be predicated on their ability to dunk basketballs, which they are definitely awesome at – but how does that translate broadly into all other sports?

    without digging deep and just off the top of my head i know at least 3 football players who were good boxers:

    Leif Larsen, who had the NFL combine bench press record for a while
    Dominic Breazeale, who was on the US Olympic team in 2012

    there was also Tom Zbikowski who was 8-0, but never boxed anybody real

    • Replies: @Trinity
  62. Trinity says:
    @prime noticer

    Standout wrestler Danny Hodge was featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated, I believe Hodge is the only amateur wrestler to ever make a cover on Sports Illustrated. Anyhow, Hodge would have a few pro fights after a brief amateur boxing career. He would lose to an actual serious heavyweight contender at the time named, Nino Valdez. If I am not mistaken Hodge had a political career as well. He had unbelievable tendon strength and was capable of crushing an apple with one hand. Obviously after a handful of fights, Hodge was not ready for someone like Valdez, whoever handled Hodge didn’t care and were out to use him, damn the building up stage.

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
  63. Swamp Fox says:

    The ’88 team only had one white player.

  64. @Trinity

    My cousin (fathers side) is Gabe Dean @ Cornell.
    Unfortunately “Woke” today.
    Still quite the wrestler.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  65. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    Good grief how can children be subjected to that? Unbelievable!

  66. @dindunuffins

    I would say the best athletes in the sportsworld are hockey goalies (and I would take soccer goalkeepers as a distant second). I (attempted) to play goalie seri0usly in my youth. The natural eyesight and quick reflexes needed to be a goalie in the NHL are unbelievable (very much like a fighter pilot) and its something you simply are born with or not. On top of that you have to ice skate, have an incredibly strong core and knees, be able to handle incredible pressure and be able to react to/take a 6 oz frozen puck to the face…coming at you at 100 mph. This is a position dominated by white males of course. But if a female and/or different race athlete is a competent goalie he/she has my respect.

    BTW, yes its hard to talk about something as trivial as professional sports during these crazy times. My grandpa encouraged me to be a student athlete…but the best athletic skill he passed onto me was when he taught me how to shoot and think about self-defense. I never realized how important this was until the last few years. Let that sobering thought sink in to all you couch-potatoes out there!

  67. Trinity says:
    @Detroit Refugee

    Wrestlers have to be the best conditioned athletes on the planet. Sorry to hear about the “woke” virus infecting someone you know though. Actually when the term “woke” was first used, it was meant for people on the right who were wise to the JQ and anti-White agenda, now the term means the complete opposite. Go figure. Like the term, “liberal,” has been hijacked by a bunch of anti-White racist thugs. What a world.

  68. G. Poulin says:

    Agreed. Marciano was a very good fighter, tough and hard-punching. Still, I would have to say that he has been somewhat over-rated as a champion. His list of opponents consists almost entirely of tomato cans, light heavyweights, and great names who were well past their prime. Never fought a great heavyweight who was still at the top of his game. Would have been a contender or a brief champ in the 1960s and ’70s.

    • Agree: Trinity
  69. Trimity is right about Jerry Quarry.

    • Replies: @Truth
  70. WSG says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    The sportcucks here need to form a circle-jerk at once.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
  71. Yes, of course, it is not allowed that a white boxer knocks out a black one, but it is completely okay, when a very robust transwoman beats a real woman into koma during a martial arts competition. Oh, how wonderful is our modern society!

  72. AnalogMan says:

    I wish people who know better would not unironically use that word, “racist”, as a criticism. I’m a racist, and proud of it. It means I believe in race as a biological reality, that has implications for behaviour. If I were not a racist, it would mean I am a fool.

    One can be simultaneously a racist and a fool, and maybe I am, but one can’t be both not a racist and not a fool.

  73. AnalogMan says:

    They have. I think we’re in it!

  74. Bite Moi says:
    @Non PC Infidel

    Non PC Infidel———I spent years with a “live and let live mindset”. “Evil Whiteness” is starting to appeal to me.

    • LOL: Augustus
  75. Robinson ran his mouth before the match, claiming that he was going to win for his race, etc. He got KTFO, as mouth running asshats like him often do. Jake Paul just really rubbed Robinson’s face in it by sitting for the interview. Those here who want to run Paul down for his part in the interview should go knock Nate Robinson out themselves before talking about Jake Paul.

    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  76. Augustus says:
    @Swamp Fox

    Thompson brought all his quick, black defenders and used his pressing defense. He eskewed the use of any 3 point shooters. I assume some might have been white. Only David Robinson played well enough to seem to deserve to be on the US team.
    USSR team had an Estonian and a Latvian who stayed outside and killed Thompson’s all black team with 3 point shots. Thompson had no answer. I think he showed himself as an affirmative action hire. Didn’t he also coach Georgetown to an NCAA loss to Villanova? I rarely followed Negro Volleyball.

    • Replies: @Swamp Fox
  77. Truth says:

    Occasionally, Old Sport, you show some sense. Good for you.

    Marciano, strangely, was underrated and overrated at the same time. Would he have been competitive against post-Liston Heavyweights? No, he’d get killed. The powerful guys would crush him, and even the solid 200 lb. guys like Patterson or Machen, would probably outbox him.

    Ali said multiple times that Marciano was better than Frazier, and he was. He was also, as you said 20 lbs. lighter with shorter Arms, and he would not have been as effective against Ali as Joe was.


    If you put Marciano in a time machine today and put him in with light-heavyweights, he’d easily be a world champ.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @Augustus
  78. Truth says:

    You’re probably the kind of dorkwhite who uses “y’all” or “Imma keep it real” in your posts.

    U-T, he did kinda nail you there…

    • LOL: Trinity
  79. Truth says:
    @Dingo bay rum

    Oh, and by the way, Bonavena was a FAR better fighter than Quarry, who looked like he could fight but was kinda dumb in the ring. He tried to outbox Ali and Patterson, and brawl with Frazier and Foreman. He beat big, slow aggressive guys but struggled mightily with Tony Doyle.

    And he had a helluva more epic death too.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Trinity
  80. Swamp Fox says:

    Thompson certainly eschewed using white players.
    He was 1-3 in NCAA finals. He continued to recruit Iverson after he was jailed for his participation in a race based brawl.

  81. Trinity says:

    Bonavena beat Frazier in their first fight as well, Oscar was robbed.

    Bonavena better than Quarry? NOPE. Oscar was a brute, awkward fighter. Both Bonavena and Quarry lost to Jimmy Ellis but Quarry fought Ellis with a bad back and was overly cautious. Quarry won a disputed decision over Floyd Patterson and a they had a draw. I think the decision was fair, while Patterson boxed Boanvena’s ears off. Quarry was also boxing George Chuvalo’s ears off and coasting to an easy decision when he was floored, not really hurt, and failed to beat the count. Weird loss on Quarry’s record. Quarry took a knee and clearly could have beat the count. The only other “white hope” of that time period who possibly could have beaten Quarry was Joe Bugner, NOT Bonavena. Bugner had the style and size to beat Quarry. Bonavena fared far better against Frazier because like I say Oscar was a brute. Bugner took both Ali and Frazier the distance. Bugner vs Ron Lyle was a good fight. Bugner just wasn’t in love with boxing, never really applied himself, he could have been champion, but he was criticized for lack of punch, which is dead wrong. IF anyone thinks Bugner couldn’t punch watch the Bugner vs. Dino Denis fight. Bugner just was never totally committed to the sport.

  82. Trinity says:

    Old Sport, Quarry NEVER fought Foreman, Quarry did in fact beat Patterson, floored him twice in both fights. The official Quarry vs Patterson count was one win for Quarry and a draw for both, so Quarry was 1-0-1 vs. Floyd. HOWEVER many think Patterson was jobbed, but I am not one of them. Patterson was indeed denied being the first man to win the title three times in a VERY BAD DECISION LOSS to Jimmy Ellis, however. Ellis over Patterson was a bad decision just like Frazier over Bonavena in their first fight. Quarry beat Patterson who perhaps had the fastest hands in heavyweight history, even faster than Ali and Tyson, Old Sport. Buster Mathis whom Quarry all but shutout was a very big man but he had fast hands and could move well for such a big man, and Quarry also beat Thad Spencer, another fighter who doesn’t fit your big, slow, type of heavyweight. Quarry was an emotional fighter and carried a lot of mental baggage into the fight, very erratic, could look like a world beater in one night and an also ran the next. In his second fight with Ali, Quarry was a mental wreck having just watched his younger brother knocked flat by a Bob Foster bomb. Quarry went into the Ali rematch worried about his younger brother’s well being. My gawd, Mike Quarry was flattened like a pancake and was never the same after that one.

  83. @Twodees Partain

    ” . . . He got KTFO, as mouth running asshats like him often do. . . .”

    Quite right. Jake Paul administered a necessary ass-whuppin’ to Mr. Robinson.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  84. @Orville H. Larson

    Indeed he did. Robinson has a “glass jaw” as the saying goes. One good shot will put him out. That’s a common trait in Africans. Of course Paul gave him a proper ass whippin before that final shot.

  85. Augustus says:

    I think Marciano was about 188 most of his career. That would be a cruiser weight by today’s standards, I believe?

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Truth
  86. Trinity says:

    Marciano’s weight ranged from 180 1/4 lbs to 192lbs. He weighed 184 lbs the night he fought Joe Louis and won the title from Jersey Joe Walcott. Marciano’s heaviest weight for a title fight was 189lbs when fought Don Cockell. Fighters back in the day weighed in the day of the fight and with day before weigh ins of today, fighters often enter the ring weighing a good 10-15 lbs heavier than what they weighted the day before. The modern day cruiserweight limit is 200lbs which would make Marciano even a small cruiserweight. Those cruiserweights are probably fighting in the ring at 210-215lbs, the same weight as a prime Ali or Larry Holmes while the modern day light heavyweight probably enters the ring at about what Marciano weighed, about 185-190lbs. Marciano would be a light heavyweight with day before weigh ins, he would be too small for even cruiserweight although I think he would be capable of winning a title at both weights. He trained so hard, probably harder than any other fighter, that probably had a lot to do with his weight. Had Marciano not been such a fanatical trainer he probably easily would have weighed a good 10lbs heavier. Even at that lighter weight, Marciano was so fit that he could easily outmuscle heavier opponents. He outmuscled the much larger albeit older 37 year old 212lb Joe Louis. Marciano ballooned to over 240lbs in retirement so he wasn’t exactly tiny, he just trained so hard. I’m guessing a good deal of modern day fighters are overweight, especially the heavyweights, and could fight a few pounds lighter, they just don’t log the miles that Marciano ran or train near as hard.

    • Thanks: Augustus
  87. Truth says:

    Yes, but they weighed in on the day of the fight back then, usually 12 hours before a 10 pm, let’s say, opening bell.

    Now they weigh in at about 2PM Friday for a fight 10PM on Saturday. Everybody in boxing over the last decade with the exceptions of Paquiao, Rigondeaux, Mayweather, Hopkins and a few others cuts weight down to an almost health-threatening level, and the spends 30+ hours rehydrating 10-15% of his body weight.

  88. Bite Moi says:

    “Would you forgive me if i took a knee????” Too bad Paul didn’t say that.Would’a been quite the shyte storm.

  89. Bite Moi says:

    Paul———“I’m not raciss. Boxing’s raciss. They could have given him enough AA points that he would’a won even after i knocked him out.”

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