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Previously on SBPDL: It’s All About Disarming White America: Sen. Kamala Harris Willing to Send Cops Door-to-Door to Confiscate Banned Firearms

Remember: Almost all of the guns used in fatal and nonfatal shootings in 70% black Baltimore and 67% nonwhite Chicago are illegal. Same goes for Memphis, Washington D.C., Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St. Louis, New Orleans, and other American cities where gun crime is a daily occurrence .

Why mention this? Because Democrats have no interest in using red flag laws against gang databases (those are racist anyways, right?), but instead hope to use them to disarm law-abiding people who also harbor “white nationalist” views. [Democrats frown on targeting gang databases with ‘red flag’ laws, Washington Examiner, September 14, 2019]:

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Democrats objected with reasons that sounded very familiar to Republicans.

GOP lawmakers have staunchly opposed “No Fly, No Buy” proposals Democrats have tried to pass in the House in recent years because the lists flag the wrong people.

Like the no-fly lists, which have erroneously flagged many innocent individuals as terrorists (including the late Sen. Ted Kennedy), the gang databases are often inaccurate, Democrats said.

“You know, California had these databases, and they finally stopped when they discovered that they had 3-year-olds on the databases as gang members,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren of California said. “I mean, so some of these are reliable, a lot of them are not.”

Buck pointed out his amendment requires law enforcement to limit red-flagging to only those with probable cause to be included on the list, which is a stricter criteria.

Democrats kept objecting, arguing someone could be misidentified as gang members simply for writing “13” on a piece of paper and having it wrongly identified as an MS-13 gang sign.

“Maybe you are just doodling because it is the 13th of June,” Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York said.

Buck said police have to meet a much higher threshold to list someone as a gang member.

“This is a situation where the police officers are trained, and there are very identifiable signs, and it isn’t just one sign,” Buck told Nadler.

Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California offered to support the amendment if Buck agreed to include those listed “individuals affiliated with white nationalism.”

Buck agreed, but he said the language should include “any type of supremacy.”

“Let’s add Cosa Nostra to this,” Buck added.

The amendment ultimately failed 11-21, but not before the top Republican on the panel, Rep. Doug Collins of Georgia, called out Democrats for their hypocrisy.

Democrats in 2016 staged a “sit-in” on the House floor, refusing to let the GOP majority conduct legislative business, in part because Republicans would not pass “No-Fly, No-Buy” legislation, which would prevent people on the federal no-fly list from purchasing guns.

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“It’s amazing to me,” Collins said. “We had a large blow-up on the floor of this House just a couple years ago about the ‘No Fly, No Buy’ list, which was shown to have issues, but at that point, nobody from the other side brought this is as a concern, and now we are bringing it as a concern,” Collins said.

“If we can’t bring this list up, even with due process put in, then don’t ever bring the ‘No Fly, No Buy’ list up again.”

“Don’t ever bring it up again because there is no due process on that list.”

Black and brown gangbangers making America’s greatest war zones on a daily basis are no threat to the establishment, thus no need to threaten gun confiscation of the illegal arms they use to murder one another.

It’s about going after guns purchased legally by white people, which the state then bans. Law-abiding white gun owners are the only people the state dares threaten with confiscation.

And now it’s about using red flag laws against anyone the Left decides is a ‘white nationalist’, at a time they’ve spent the last four years describing anyone who supports Donald Trump as one…

The Left is more interested in getting rid of gang databases, because – in their eyes – they unfairly target people of color via systemic racism.

At this point, it’s all about disarming law-abiding white Americans.

 

 

 
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  1. anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve seen several mentions that the best way to deal with the red flag laws is to flood them with reports of problem people – in particular, reports on the “inner city” people everyone would rather see disarmed. I bet we could recruit the right black church ladies to help report on all the scary people in their neighborhoods . . . But even without them, we seriously need to generate a very large volume of reports, then in 6 months or a year or whatever, file requests for public records to analyze exactly how they have been responding.

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
    A coworker and I once reported a known drug dealer who made death threats against us, had a number of illegal weapons in his possession and was often pulled in for questioning by the police everytime there was a shooting in town. He was working on the job with us as a way to appear "legitimate" and even took one coworker to his apartment and showed him all the guns he had including a fully automatic Uzi.

    After the death threats, a full report was given to the police including exactly what type of guns he had and where they were hidden. You know what happened? Absolutely NOTHING. In another instance, he was involved in a rolling shootout with other gang members near a school and bragged about how he'd gotten away from the police. That was reported and a libtarded manager whom he was having sex with lied to the police and claimed he was at work on shift when the shooting happened. Again, nothing happened.

    I wouldn't count on red flag laws being enforced against blacks. In fact, I seriously doubt they would be.
    , @anarchyst
    I would take it a step further.

    Start "red flagging" politicians, celebrities, police officers and other public officials.

    If they want a fight, let's give them one. Use their own laws against them...
  2. This will be one of the issues that completely tanks the Dems, since it’s not only “white nationalist, Neo-Nazi, Trump supporting bigots” that own AR-15s, AK-47s, or handguns that hold more than 7 rounds, according to NY & CA guidelines.

    Between Harris & Beto saying they will “force” gun owners to turn in the guns they deem “assault rifles” or guns on the banned weapons list, those two just cut their own throats. We have Trump as president because the American populace was basically told it’s Hillary’s turn, and if you don’t support her, you’re an uneducated, hillbilly, deplorable, unlike the enlightened citizens of NYC, San Fran, LA, Portland, & Chicago.

  3. Apply these red-flag laws to voter registration, and see what happens!

  4. Yeah, those white gangs are pretty vicious. I just got beaten and robbed the other day by a group of towheaded blonde boys with sling shots in their back pockets.

    • Replies: @Love Street
    Yep, a real menace
  5. I, for one, appreciate democrooks finally admitting it’s all about total firearm confiscation AND further proving it’s about disarming only Whites.

    Whatever sh*t-snot clown the orcs put in office post-Trump will find us ungovernable.

  6. cain’t be’s ‘restin people’s of cul-uh

  7. PK’s latest outstanding column dovetails neatly with this account given by Lawrence Auster from ten years ago:

    We know that between 1/4 and 1/3 of black men are convicted felons. That means that a very large part of the black population are either criminals, or are the relatives and friends of criminals. That means you have a pro-criminal population. Now, how do criminals feel toward the police? They regard them as their enemies. So naturally the black population is anti-police.

    The “cultural attitude,” the “racial experiences” that blacks have supposedly had, and that we whites don’t understand, simply comes down to the fact that blacks are a pro-criminal population that sees the police as their enemies, and that will decry any policy work as “police brutality,” and then uses this “police brutality” as an excuse to rationalize any further criminal acts by blacks against whites.

    But instead of understanding this, white people make the mistake of thinking that the black sense of grievance is a rational grievance, so the whites try to “understand” the blacks, to listen to them, to treat them as partners in a rational discussion. But this discussion can never go anywhere because at bottom the blacks are criminal sympathizers expressing their resentment of the society’s laws.

    Instead of trying to “understand” the blacks’ “feelings,” whites need to understand where blacks are actually coming from. Then we will stop treating them as partners in a rational discussion and identify them as the irrational criminal sympathizers that they actually are.

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012812.html

    • Replies: @nymom
    If this statistic is true that 1/3 to 1/4 of black men are convicted felons then I think I can give you another reason why the average black person is not that upset about black crime. It is removing these men permanently from the communities they are victimizing.

    Yes, they sometimes kill whites and a random shot also has been known to hit a black child or civilian; but, for the most part gun crime in the black community is these 1/3 to 1/4 portion of the black felon population killing one another...and thus, sadly, the lack of cooperation with the police or getting involved in anyway to help stop these shootings makes sense.

    In a weird kind of way...
  8. Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California offered to support the amendment if Buck agreed to include those listed “individuals affiliated with white nationalism.”

    In the United States, it isn’t illegal to hold political views that are contrary to the government regime currently in power. Back in the day, a punk like Swalwell would have been straightened out by a crowd using tar and feathers.

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
    If someone had responded by saying that individuals associated with black nationalism and the black separatist movement should be included, the Democratic ass clown would have immediately started stuttering and stammering in outrage. Other Demo ass clowns would have jumped on board and would have immediately declared that as racist, inappropriate and unwarranted.
    , @fnn
    Pete Stark, the incumbent Democrat defeated by Swalwell, was something of a lunatic. But, as you can see, he was not entirely bereft of good points:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Stark#Controversies

    Other controversies include singling out "Jewish colleagues" for blame for the Persian Gulf War and referring to Congressman Stephen Solarz of New York (who co-sponsored the Gulf War Authorization Act) as "Field Marshal Solarz in the pro-Israel forces." in 1991.[48] In 1995, during a private meeting with Congresswoman Nancy Johnson of Connecticut, he called Johnson a "whore for the insurance industry" and suggested that her knowledge of health care came solely from "pillow talk" with her husband, a physician. His press secretary, Caleb Marshall, defended him in saying, "He didn't call her a 'whore,' he called her a 'whore of the insurance industry.'"[48] In a 2001 Ways and Means Subcommittee on Health hearing on abstinence promotion, he referred to Congressman J. C. Watts of Oklahoma as "the current Republican Conference Chairman, whose children were all born out of wedlock."[48] In 2003, when Stark was told to "shut up" by Congressman Scott McInnis of Colorado during a Ways and Means Committee meeting due to Stark's belittling of the chairman, Bill Thomas of California, he replied, "You think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me, I dare you. You little fruitcake."[48]

    In an older video taped interview with Jan Helfeld concerning the size of the national debt, Stark stated that the size of the national debt is a reflection of the nation's wealth. When pressed if the nation should take on more debt in order to have more wealth, Stark threatened Helfeld: "You get the fuck out of here or I'll throw you out the window."[49]

    On August 27, 2009, Stark suggested that his moderate Democratic colleagues were "brain dead" for proposing changes to the health care reform bill being considered by Congress. During a conference call, Stark claimed that they:
    ... just want to cause trouble ... they're for the most part, I hate to say, brain dead, but they're just looking to raise money from insurance companies and promote a right-wing agenda that is not really very useful in this whole process.[50]

    During a town hall meeting in 2009, a constituent who opposed President Barack Obama's health care plan told Stark, "Mr. Congressman, don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." Stark responded with, "I wouldn't dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn't be worth wasting the urine."[51]
     
  9. @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California offered to support the amendment if Buck agreed to include those listed “individuals affiliated with white nationalism.”
     
    In the United States, it isn't illegal to hold political views that are contrary to the government regime currently in power. Back in the day, a punk like Swalwell would have been straightened out by a crowd using tar and feathers.

    If someone had responded by saying that individuals associated with black nationalism and the black separatist movement should be included, the Democratic ass clown would have immediately started stuttering and stammering in outrage. Other Demo ass clowns would have jumped on board and would have immediately declared that as racist, inappropriate and unwarranted.

  10. I remember one of Colin Flaherty’s videos in which a black woman being interviewed on the street (I think she was complaining about the po-leez — what a surprise) was asked about the black-on-black killings. She didn’t have a problem with them because those were just the way black folks work out their differences, no big deal.

    So we see that black criminality isn’t a problem in the eyes of orcs or their liberal allies.

    Now we skip over to an article in AmRen about the Army’s EEO program:

    https://www.amren.com/news/2019/08/armys-equal-opportunity-program-saved/

    Excerpt:

    I began a transformation. I learned that whites have built “white privilege” policies into the Army, and that whites still benefit from them. Thanks to President Obama, his nominee for the Supreme Court taught me that white males are inferior to Latinas. Former President Carter even said a few days ago, “There is an inherent feeling among many in this country [he later said he meant white people] that an African-American should not be president.” Translation: white Americans are inherently racist.

    For the last four months, I have studied the Army’s EO program harder than ever. I have finally found the truth. Yes, I am racist. I am racist because of the color of my skin, not because of anything I did or said.

    Since I am racist because I am white, by extension, this means all other white soldiers are racist. All white soldiers must therefore be investigated in accordance with Army policy. Racism is not tolerated in the Army. Therefore, white soldiers should not be tolerated in the Army.

    I never paid attention to race until I joined the Army. Now, I see race in everything. After several years, I have come to my senses. Now I realize that I am the problem, not the Army’s EO program. Now I believe, as the EO program teaches, that I am ultimately responsible for all the ills faced by minorities. I am heartily ashamed of myself. I am certain that the Army’s EO program is proud to hear me say that. After all, isn’t it one of the objectives of the Army’s EO program to blame whites for all of society’s ills? Thankfully, it worked for me. My new mission is to help the Army’s EO program so it can work for all other soldiers.

    (Spoiler alert: He doesn’t really believe he’s racist, etc.)

    Following this line of thought to its logical conclusion, all whites are racist, all whites are therefore white supremacists, and thus all whites must give up their means of defending themselves.

    Keep in mind that the US Army, as well as the rest of the military, is a branch of the federal government. (This might seem obvious, but so many people don’t seem to grasp this reality and prefer to believe it is ideologically and culturally separate from its master.) The “blame whitey” message in the Army is the same one found in the rest of the federal government, the same one in which there are so many politicians and bureaucrats who wish to disarm us and make us easy prey.

    And when they have, that’s when the real fun begins.

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water

    ...there are so many politicians and bureaucrats who wish to disarm us and make us easy prey.
    And when they have, that’s when the real fun begins.

     

    The real fun begins when they try to take them.
  11. @anonymous
    I've seen several mentions that the best way to deal with the red flag laws is to flood them with reports of problem people - in particular, reports on the "inner city" people everyone would rather see disarmed. I bet we could recruit the right black church ladies to help report on all the scary people in their neighborhoods . . . But even without them, we seriously need to generate a very large volume of reports, then in 6 months or a year or whatever, file requests for public records to analyze exactly how they have been responding.

    A coworker and I once reported a known drug dealer who made death threats against us, had a number of illegal weapons in his possession and was often pulled in for questioning by the police everytime there was a shooting in town. He was working on the job with us as a way to appear “legitimate” and even took one coworker to his apartment and showed him all the guns he had including a fully automatic Uzi.

    After the death threats, a full report was given to the police including exactly what type of guns he had and where they were hidden. You know what happened? Absolutely NOTHING. In another instance, he was involved in a rolling shootout with other gang members near a school and bragged about how he’d gotten away from the police. That was reported and a libtarded manager whom he was having sex with lied to the police and claimed he was at work on shift when the shooting happened. Again, nothing happened.

    I wouldn’t count on red flag laws being enforced against blacks. In fact, I seriously doubt they would be.

    • Agree: 95Theses, Rich
  12. I am waiting for some leading Democrat to debunk the videos of black thugs assaulting white people in cities around the US.

    Their “explanation”–the thugs were white nationalists wearing blackface!

    • Replies: @Joe Magarac
    There's an urban legend / conspiracy theory widely current in the black community --
    That a lot of the black on black violence is really false flags by White Folks.
  13. Half the country hates the other half.
    Half of the voters wanted another outcome.
    Red flag laws want to disarm the law abiding as soon as possible.
    The economy is on Federal Reserve printing press life support.
    Deficit spending is soaring.
    Militarism abroad is murdering millions of people and the survivors are becoming displaced persons usually of low IQ.
    Welfare costs are rising.
    Employment by the physically capable is falling.
    Trade wars lead to hot wars.

    Look around. All signs point to an eventual and imminent ‘Crack-Up Boom’ AKA SHTF time. When that happens, violence will result. Get prepared while you still can.

    • Replies: @Dr. X

    Look around. All signs point to an eventual and imminent ‘Crack-Up Boom’ AKA SHTF time.
     
    Can't happen soon enough... let's get it over with.
  14. @Justvisiting
    I am waiting for some leading Democrat to debunk the videos of black thugs assaulting white people in cities around the US.

    Their "explanation"--the thugs were white nationalists wearing blackface!

    There’s an urban legend / conspiracy theory widely current in the black community —
    That a lot of the black on black violence is really false flags by White Folks.

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
    Sho nuff! It jus' lak dat ol' movie, "The Watermelon Man" where dat white man be colorizing hisself to look like a black person and be trabbelin' aroun' da country! Dat's where dey gots de idea frum! White folkses be colorizin' deyselves and shootin' up da brutha's in da hood to make black folks look bad!

    All mockery of their mentality aside, there are numerous incredibly stupid black urban legends and conspiracy theories. One that had me laughing was about an old style sailing ship that appeared on beverage bottles- that was declared to be a "celebration of slabery and dat beez uh slabe ship!" Another had to do with products that black people like being poisoned or, alternately, being loaded with drugs to make blacks infertile. Another variation of that one had blacks being made violent by additives in certain foods they consumed so "The MAN" could attack the black community and destroy it by putting most of the men in jail.

    With blacks, everything is a victim narrative.
  15. Please keep me in your mailing list;upon my return to U.S. I will mail my donation by regular mail.

  16. A serial killer has been caught in Florida. Four women in Daytona since 2005, one in South Florida so far.
    He’s not white.

    • Replies: @loren
    link
  17. @Female in FL
    A serial killer has been caught in Florida. Four women in Daytona since 2005, one in South Florida so far.
    He’s not white.

    link

    • Replies: @Female in FL
    https://www.wesh.com/
  18. anonymous[127] • Disclaimer says:

    – I like it.

    @95theses – James Lafond also recognizes that ‘friends of felons’ dynamic – key point he makes is that many of those (lady)friends administrate the systems that otherwise are supposed to remain at arms length or more from the sexy felons. Because of this, unwise to count on any municipal law enforcement to preserve your anonymity – not to mention the lack of enthusiasm for preserving your life or livelihood.

    I agree, selective enforcement is very likely, but the intention of mass reporting is not in the expectation of actual enforcement, but rather to overwhelm their systems with paperwork and force the farce further along.

  19. We won’t need to worry about Red Flag laws once these geniuses of color- none actual scientists, none presenting in a program hosted by a department in the sciences (or engineering, math, etc.), just a sad wannabe “science studies” department/ program- enlighten us with their non-white, intellectually superior brilliance:

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/whites-need-not-apply-campus-sci-tech-symposium-to-only-feature-scholars-of-color/

    And I think all of the readers here- if inspired by the whites-exclusionary policy of the symposium- can admire the brilliance and moral courage against this oppressive white “scientific studies” supremacy we have been forced to endure for far too long- the faculty remember responsible for it all. She appears (((white))), and is quite the looker:

    https://political-science.williams.edu/profile/le2/

    Onward comrades!

    • Replies: @D-FENS
    I checked the link you provided on Laura Ephraim and I thought “looker?, wtf?”. Then I noted the ((())) in your post! I concur!
  20. @Joe Magarac
    There's an urban legend / conspiracy theory widely current in the black community --
    That a lot of the black on black violence is really false flags by White Folks.

    Sho nuff! It jus’ lak dat ol’ movie, “The Watermelon Man” where dat white man be colorizing hisself to look like a black person and be trabbelin’ aroun’ da country! Dat’s where dey gots de idea frum! White folkses be colorizin’ deyselves and shootin’ up da brutha’s in da hood to make black folks look bad!

    All mockery of their mentality aside, there are numerous incredibly stupid black urban legends and conspiracy theories. One that had me laughing was about an old style sailing ship that appeared on beverage bottles- that was declared to be a “celebration of slabery and dat beez uh slabe ship!” Another had to do with products that black people like being poisoned or, alternately, being loaded with drugs to make blacks infertile. Another variation of that one had blacks being made violent by additives in certain foods they consumed so “The MAN” could attack the black community and destroy it by putting most of the men in jail.

    With blacks, everything is a victim narrative.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Just remember their level of gullibility as well as superstition and think of new and interesting ways to use that.
  21. @95Theses
    PK’s latest outstanding column dovetails neatly with this account given by Lawrence Auster from ten years ago:

    We know that between 1/4 and 1/3 of black men are convicted felons. That means that a very large part of the black population are either criminals, or are the relatives and friends of criminals. That means you have a pro-criminal population. Now, how do criminals feel toward the police? They regard them as their enemies. So naturally the black population is anti-police.

    The “cultural attitude,” the “racial experiences” that blacks have supposedly had, and that we whites don’t understand, simply comes down to the fact that blacks are a pro-criminal population that sees the police as their enemies, and that will decry any policy work as “police brutality,” and then uses this “police brutality” as an excuse to rationalize any further criminal acts by blacks against whites.

    But instead of understanding this, white people make the mistake of thinking that the black sense of grievance is a rational grievance, so the whites try to “understand” the blacks, to listen to them, to treat them as partners in a rational discussion. But this discussion can never go anywhere because at bottom the blacks are criminal sympathizers expressing their resentment of the society’s laws.

    Instead of trying to “understand” the blacks’ “feelings,” whites need to understand where blacks are actually coming from. Then we will stop treating them as partners in a rational discussion and identify them as the irrational criminal sympathizers that they actually are.

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012812.html
     

    If this statistic is true that 1/3 to 1/4 of black men are convicted felons then I think I can give you another reason why the average black person is not that upset about black crime. It is removing these men permanently from the communities they are victimizing.

    Yes, they sometimes kill whites and a random shot also has been known to hit a black child or civilian; but, for the most part gun crime in the black community is these 1/3 to 1/4 portion of the black felon population killing one another…and thus, sadly, the lack of cooperation with the police or getting involved in anyway to help stop these shootings makes sense.

    In a weird kind of way…

  22. @Piglet
    I remember one of Colin Flaherty's videos in which a black woman being interviewed on the street (I think she was complaining about the po-leez -- what a surprise) was asked about the black-on-black killings. She didn't have a problem with them because those were just the way black folks work out their differences, no big deal.

    So we see that black criminality isn't a problem in the eyes of orcs or their liberal allies.

    Now we skip over to an article in AmRen about the Army's EEO program:

    https://www.amren.com/news/2019/08/armys-equal-opportunity-program-saved/

    Excerpt:

    I began a transformation. I learned that whites have built “white privilege” policies into the Army, and that whites still benefit from them. Thanks to President Obama, his nominee for the Supreme Court taught me that white males are inferior to Latinas. Former President Carter even said a few days ago, “There is an inherent feeling among many in this country [he later said he meant white people] that an African-American should not be president.” Translation: white Americans are inherently racist.

    For the last four months, I have studied the Army’s EO program harder than ever. I have finally found the truth. Yes, I am racist. I am racist because of the color of my skin, not because of anything I did or said.

    Since I am racist because I am white, by extension, this means all other white soldiers are racist. All white soldiers must therefore be investigated in accordance with Army policy. Racism is not tolerated in the Army. Therefore, white soldiers should not be tolerated in the Army.

    I never paid attention to race until I joined the Army. Now, I see race in everything. After several years, I have come to my senses. Now I realize that I am the problem, not the Army’s EO program. Now I believe, as the EO program teaches, that I am ultimately responsible for all the ills faced by minorities. I am heartily ashamed of myself. I am certain that the Army’s EO program is proud to hear me say that. After all, isn’t it one of the objectives of the Army’s EO program to blame whites for all of society’s ills? Thankfully, it worked for me. My new mission is to help the Army’s EO program so it can work for all other soldiers.


    (Spoiler alert: He doesn't really believe he's racist, etc.)

    Following this line of thought to its logical conclusion, all whites are racist, all whites are therefore white supremacists, and thus all whites must give up their means of defending themselves.

    Keep in mind that the US Army, as well as the rest of the military, is a branch of the federal government. (This might seem obvious, but so many people don't seem to grasp this reality and prefer to believe it is ideologically and culturally separate from its master.) The "blame whitey" message in the Army is the same one found in the rest of the federal government, the same one in which there are so many politicians and bureaucrats who wish to disarm us and make us easy prey.

    And when they have, that's when the real fun begins.

    …there are so many politicians and bureaucrats who wish to disarm us and make us easy prey.
    And when they have, that’s when the real fun begins.

    The real fun begins when they try to take them.

  23. I’ve said before, the left might get away with some SWATting of some older veterans but when they try to cross over into confiscating regular-guy firearms, the sky will turn dark for them.

    They may be able to play the ‘danger to himself and others’ on some 70+ Vietnam war vet but the police union would likely have a lot to say before sending officers to homes where there is no evidence of wrong-doing.

    Not to say that cops wouldn’t love kicking doors in and high-fiving one another but the adults in the union would see the obvious backlash that would come.

    No police officer would ever be safe again.

    Doing the enemy’s bidding makes you the enemy too.

    • Replies: @Love Street
    I don’t think they’ll kick the door in and take them.
    It will be a slow subversive process making tricky laws where we will eventually have to turn em in or face heavy fines and jail time.
    Family Medical , mental history ,psych drugs etc.
    , @Augustus
    Hey Jim in Jersey,

    Just because I was working on a couple of guns at the coffee table and shot a hole through the living room window, is no reason for you to mock my age!
  24. @anonymous
    I've seen several mentions that the best way to deal with the red flag laws is to flood them with reports of problem people - in particular, reports on the "inner city" people everyone would rather see disarmed. I bet we could recruit the right black church ladies to help report on all the scary people in their neighborhoods . . . But even without them, we seriously need to generate a very large volume of reports, then in 6 months or a year or whatever, file requests for public records to analyze exactly how they have been responding.

    I would take it a step further.

    Start “red flagging” politicians, celebrities, police officers and other public officials.

    If they want a fight, let’s give them one. Use their own laws against them…

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    Start with any celebrity who has publicly been to rehab for some type of drug addiction or attempted self harm.
  25. If you’re a nationalist – that is, you want what’s best for the nation of which you are a part by reason of birth – the words “nation” “native” “nascent” and “nativity” all have the same root – AND you happen to have white skin – BINGO! – you are not just a white “nationalist”- a nationalist who happens to be white – you are a “white nationalist” which can be equated to “Nazi” according to the rules – which change daily – of the Left’s narrative. What label do they hang on the Y/T guy called Black Conservative Patriot? I mean, the old “terms “Oreo” and “Uncle Tom” are so 1960’s, right?

  26. The solution for the Left always involves punishing law abiding responsible white people and not holding the people who create the problems accountable. That is how we have welfare, which rewards bad behavior and gun control which punishes only people who obey the law.

  27. @Non PC Infidel
    Sho nuff! It jus' lak dat ol' movie, "The Watermelon Man" where dat white man be colorizing hisself to look like a black person and be trabbelin' aroun' da country! Dat's where dey gots de idea frum! White folkses be colorizin' deyselves and shootin' up da brutha's in da hood to make black folks look bad!

    All mockery of their mentality aside, there are numerous incredibly stupid black urban legends and conspiracy theories. One that had me laughing was about an old style sailing ship that appeared on beverage bottles- that was declared to be a "celebration of slabery and dat beez uh slabe ship!" Another had to do with products that black people like being poisoned or, alternately, being loaded with drugs to make blacks infertile. Another variation of that one had blacks being made violent by additives in certain foods they consumed so "The MAN" could attack the black community and destroy it by putting most of the men in jail.

    With blacks, everything is a victim narrative.

    Just remember their level of gullibility as well as superstition and think of new and interesting ways to use that.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    Well, the obvious approach would be to spread the meme that whitey is importing Mexicans etal to take power away from black people...
  28. “You know, California had these databases, and they finally stopped when they discovered that they had 3-year-olds on the databases as gang members,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren of California said. “I mean, so some of these are reliable, a lot of them are not.”

    On the other hand, being listed in the SPLC’s database will be considered an entirely reliable reason to deny someone the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

    /sarc

  29. Todays irony of having a gun for protection ——-http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/rockdale-county-deputies-responding-to-shooting——- the USUAL suspects.

  30. @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    Yeah, those white gangs are pretty vicious. I just got beaten and robbed the other day by a group of towheaded blonde boys with sling shots in their back pockets.

    Yep, a real menace

  31. @RoatanBill
    Half the country hates the other half.
    Half of the voters wanted another outcome.
    Red flag laws want to disarm the law abiding as soon as possible.
    The economy is on Federal Reserve printing press life support.
    Deficit spending is soaring.
    Militarism abroad is murdering millions of people and the survivors are becoming displaced persons usually of low IQ.
    Welfare costs are rising.
    Employment by the physically capable is falling.
    Trade wars lead to hot wars.
    ...

    Look around. All signs point to an eventual and imminent 'Crack-Up Boom' AKA SHTF time. When that happens, violence will result. Get prepared while you still can.

    Look around. All signs point to an eventual and imminent ‘Crack-Up Boom’ AKA SHTF time.

    Can’t happen soon enough… let’s get it over with.

  32. @Jim in Jersey
    I’ve said before, the left might get away with some SWATting of some older veterans but when they try to cross over into confiscating regular-guy firearms, the sky will turn dark for them.

    They may be able to play the ‘danger to himself and others’ on some 70+ Vietnam war vet but the police union would likely have a lot to say before sending officers to homes where there is no evidence of wrong-doing.

    Not to say that cops wouldn’t love kicking doors in and high-fiving one another but the adults in the union would see the obvious backlash that would come.

    No police officer would ever be safe again.

    Doing the enemy’s bidding makes you the enemy too.

    I don’t think they’ll kick the door in and take them.
    It will be a slow subversive process making tricky laws where we will eventually have to turn em in or face heavy fines and jail time.
    Family Medical , mental history ,psych drugs etc.

    • Replies: @prime noticer
    "I don’t think they’ll kick the door in and take them."

    they don't have to do that. they will just wait until you're not home then come and take them. at that point in government tactics, people will either have to hide them somehow, or never leave their house. what able bodied working people can afford to never leave their house.

    agree though that instead of ordering police to kick in doors and collect weapons, generally democrats will steadily make it harder and harder to own firearms, like they're doing in california and new york.

    they only have to wait us out 1 or 2 generations of that, not even a lifetime, before ownership becomes too much of a hassle and lots of people who would have owned weapons in the past, don't even bother by 2030 or 2040. this is also how indoctrination via the public schools and colleges works. you only need 50 years of that to convert enough of the new population to your way of thinking to get them voluntarily voting the way you want.

    the enemy knows what they're doing, mostly. victory on almost every issue. this is one of the few remaining.

  33. At this point, it’s all about disarming law-abiding white Americans.

    Charles Schumer and Rahm Emanuel, when they were leading Democrat Party campaign committees, knew enough about electoral politics that they didn’t want to push away too many rural and suburban White voters by going total anti-Second Amendment gun-grabber.

    Bernie Sanders knows damn well the English and French and Irish and Germans in Vermont like their guns and they don’t want to hear no crud about gun-grabbing from Kamala Harris or Beto O’Rourke.

    Mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration are clear and present threats to the Second Amendment in the USA. The foreigners brought in by mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration are going to be the key electoral vote bloc that kills the Second Amendment in the USA. The nasty dopes in the Republican Party ruling class know this but they don’t give a damn about the Second Amendment.

    Tweets from 2015:

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Good post.
  34. @Jim in Jersey
    Just remember their level of gullibility as well as superstition and think of new and interesting ways to use that.

    Well, the obvious approach would be to spread the meme that whitey is importing Mexicans etal to take power away from black people…

  35. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/16/us/florida-multiple-murder-arrest/index.html

    Hey, another black, male serial killer who predominantly targeted white women. Move along, nothing to see here!

    • Replies: @95Theses
    As you may already know, one is much more likely to be at risk from Black serial killers than their White counterparts.

    African Americans and Serial Killing in the Media
    The Myth and the Reality
    2005, November | Anthony Walsh
    http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/downloads/African-Reality.pdf

    Walsh is also the author of Race and Crime: A Biosocial Analysis. Not had cheaply, but selling now for less than the $50 I paid for it this past June.
  36. @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California offered to support the amendment if Buck agreed to include those listed “individuals affiliated with white nationalism.”
     
    In the United States, it isn't illegal to hold political views that are contrary to the government regime currently in power. Back in the day, a punk like Swalwell would have been straightened out by a crowd using tar and feathers.

    Pete Stark, the incumbent Democrat defeated by Swalwell, was something of a lunatic. But, as you can see, he was not entirely bereft of good points:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Stark#Controversies

    Other controversies include singling out “Jewish colleagues” for blame for the Persian Gulf War and referring to Congressman Stephen Solarz of New York (who co-sponsored the Gulf War Authorization Act) as “Field Marshal Solarz in the pro-Israel forces.” in 1991.[48] In 1995, during a private meeting with Congresswoman Nancy Johnson of Connecticut, he called Johnson a “whore for the insurance industry” and suggested that her knowledge of health care came solely from “pillow talk” with her husband, a physician. His press secretary, Caleb Marshall, defended him in saying, “He didn’t call her a ‘whore,’ he called her a ‘whore of the insurance industry.’”[48] In a 2001 Ways and Means Subcommittee on Health hearing on abstinence promotion, he referred to Congressman J. C. Watts of Oklahoma as “the current Republican Conference Chairman, whose children were all born out of wedlock.”[48] In 2003, when Stark was told to “shut up” by Congressman Scott McInnis of Colorado during a Ways and Means Committee meeting due to Stark’s belittling of the chairman, Bill Thomas of California, he replied, “You think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me, I dare you. You little fruitcake.”[48]

    In an older video taped interview with Jan Helfeld concerning the size of the national debt, Stark stated that the size of the national debt is a reflection of the nation’s wealth. When pressed if the nation should take on more debt in order to have more wealth, Stark threatened Helfeld: “You get the fuck out of here or I’ll throw you out the window.”[49]

    On August 27, 2009, Stark suggested that his moderate Democratic colleagues were “brain dead” for proposing changes to the health care reform bill being considered by Congress. During a conference call, Stark claimed that they:
    … just want to cause trouble … they’re for the most part, I hate to say, brain dead, but they’re just looking to raise money from insurance companies and promote a right-wing agenda that is not really very useful in this whole process.[50]

    During a town hall meeting in 2009, a constituent who opposed President Barack Obama’s health care plan told Stark, “Mr. Congressman, don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.” Stark responded with, “I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn’t be worth wasting the urine.”[51]

  37. @Charles Pewitt

    At this point, it’s all about disarming law-abiding white Americans.

     

    Charles Schumer and Rahm Emanuel, when they were leading Democrat Party campaign committees, knew enough about electoral politics that they didn't want to push away too many rural and suburban White voters by going total anti-Second Amendment gun-grabber.

    Bernie Sanders knows damn well the English and French and Irish and Germans in Vermont like their guns and they don't want to hear no crud about gun-grabbing from Kamala Harris or Beto O'Rourke.

    Mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration are clear and present threats to the Second Amendment in the USA. The foreigners brought in by mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration are going to be the key electoral vote bloc that kills the Second Amendment in the USA. The nasty dopes in the Republican Party ruling class know this but they don't give a damn about the Second Amendment.

    Tweets from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/656561461272137728?s=20

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/565513523019939841?s=20

    Good post.

  38. @Lancelot Link
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/16/us/florida-multiple-murder-arrest/index.html

    Hey, another black, male serial killer who predominantly targeted white women. Move along, nothing to see here!

    As you may already know, one is much more likely to be at risk from Black serial killers than their White counterparts.

    African Americans and Serial Killing in the Media
    The Myth and the Reality
    2005, November | Anthony Walsh
    http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/downloads/African-Reality.pdf

    Walsh is also the author of Race and Crime: A Biosocial Analysis. Not had cheaply, but selling now for less than the $50 I paid for it this past June.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Although the slant with which the Media tells the story would lead you to believe otherwise:
    https://www.wsbradio.com/news/national/did-you-know-facts-about-serial-killers/y3EzIEaXDGz6s3pmDeJXxM/
  39. @General Ripper
    We won't need to worry about Red Flag laws once these geniuses of color- none actual scientists, none presenting in a program hosted by a department in the sciences (or engineering, math, etc.), just a sad wannabe "science studies" department/ program- enlighten us with their non-white, intellectually superior brilliance:

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/whites-need-not-apply-campus-sci-tech-symposium-to-only-feature-scholars-of-color/

    And I think all of the readers here- if inspired by the whites-exclusionary policy of the symposium- can admire the brilliance and moral courage against this oppressive white "scientific studies" supremacy we have been forced to endure for far too long- the faculty remember responsible for it all. She appears (((white))), and is quite the looker:

    https://political-science.williams.edu/profile/le2/

    Onward comrades!

    I checked the link you provided on Laura Ephraim and I thought “looker?, wtf?”. Then I noted the ((())) in your post! I concur!

  40. @95Theses
    As you may already know, one is much more likely to be at risk from Black serial killers than their White counterparts.

    African Americans and Serial Killing in the Media
    The Myth and the Reality
    2005, November | Anthony Walsh
    http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/downloads/African-Reality.pdf

    Walsh is also the author of Race and Crime: A Biosocial Analysis. Not had cheaply, but selling now for less than the $50 I paid for it this past June.

    Although the slant with which the Media tells the story would lead you to believe otherwise:
    https://www.wsbradio.com/news/national/did-you-know-facts-about-serial-killers/y3EzIEaXDGz6s3pmDeJXxM/

  41. “Democrats hate targeting gang databases with ‘red flag’ laws,”
    FIFY.

  42. @anarchyst
    I would take it a step further.

    Start "red flagging" politicians, celebrities, police officers and other public officials.

    If they want a fight, let's give them one. Use their own laws against them...

    Start with any celebrity who has publicly been to rehab for some type of drug addiction or attempted self harm.

  43. If this statistic is true that 1/3 to 1/4 of black men are convicted felons then I think I can give you another reason why the average black person is not that upset about black crime. It is removing these men permanently from the communities they are victimizing.

    If they really supported removing them then they would work with the police.

    I think the simple answer is that they don’t care.

  44. The foreigners brought in by mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration are going to be the key electoral vote bloc that kills the Second Amendment in the USA. The nasty dopes in the Republican Party ruling class know this but they don’t give a damn about the Second Amendment.

    Yes the Republican Party is filled with nasty sociopaths that just want to save a big nest egg for their children and don’t care about happens to the country.

    But there is a factor here that liberals are forgetting.

    By the time the Democrats get their super majority it will be possible to print your own 3D lower.

    So Democrats will have to explain why we need to ban AR-15s when criminals can simply make them.

    But I don’t expect liberalism to last that long, not among Whites anyways. Maybe they think liberalism will be fine without Whites. Hmmmm good luck.

    Look at the crop of liberal candidates they came up with to take on Trump. It’s pathetic.

    Sanders got kicked out of a commune for being lazy and couldn’t stand up to a BLM stage crasher. Harris built her career on BJs and pretending to be a Black woman (she is mostly dot Indian). Warren pretended to be an Indian and yet lectures White people on race. Robert Francis wants to take your guns and keep the border open.

    Liberals are rightly terrified of the upcoming election. The press thought Biden was OK until his record player comment.

    The liberals have dominated the schools since the 60s and this is what they have to take on Trump.

    It’s really pathetic.

    Liberals simply aren’t attracting talented Whites. Not that Republicans are doing any better but I don’t care about them. Liberalism is the real threat to society. Republican doo-dah about “Free markets” and bootstraps is a lot of fluff that we can deal with later.

  45. @Jim in Jersey
    I’ve said before, the left might get away with some SWATting of some older veterans but when they try to cross over into confiscating regular-guy firearms, the sky will turn dark for them.

    They may be able to play the ‘danger to himself and others’ on some 70+ Vietnam war vet but the police union would likely have a lot to say before sending officers to homes where there is no evidence of wrong-doing.

    Not to say that cops wouldn’t love kicking doors in and high-fiving one another but the adults in the union would see the obvious backlash that would come.

    No police officer would ever be safe again.

    Doing the enemy’s bidding makes you the enemy too.

    Hey Jim in Jersey,

    Just because I was working on a couple of guns at the coffee table and shot a hole through the living room window, is no reason for you to mock my age!

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Did you really?

    I have a friend (also VN vet) who had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard...

    Forgot just how loud a 30.06 is in the middle of the night!

    Ran back in and luckily there was no backlash from it. Fired into a tree.

    Remember, this was a small, quiet town not the rural outback of NJ!

    Nowadays, they’d have crucified him on his lawn.
  46. @Augustus
    Hey Jim in Jersey,

    Just because I was working on a couple of guns at the coffee table and shot a hole through the living room window, is no reason for you to mock my age!

    Did you really?

    I have a friend (also VN vet) who had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard…

    Forgot just how loud a 30.06 is in the middle of the night!

    Ran back in and luckily there was no backlash from it. Fired into a tree.

    Remember, this was a small, quiet town not the rural outback of NJ!

    Nowadays, they’d have crucified him on his lawn.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    It was scary, as I have adjoining driveway with the neighbor and her kids play out there. Plus it's only about 30 feet to her windows.
    Bullet richocetted off a soda can and put a hole through my overlapping blinds that was larger than a nickle. Inner glass panel hole was bigger, and outer one was almost quarter sized in diameter.
    What did I learn? 1) I no longer leave the phone nearby when cleaning or working on any guns. 2) I knew better but worked on a gun with my normal, EDC gun right there. Will NEVER do that again. Now the REAL message." 3) I highly recommend the Barnes TAC XPD in 9mm for great expansion! Oh yeh, my buddy says I did a good job on his trigger. Now he wants new sights (personally, now that my eyes are old, I like XS Big Dots), but if he calls, I won't have the phone in the same room. Maybe you're right about age. I get easily distracted now.
    , @Oil 'n Water

    ...had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard…

     

    So...you actually know someone who messed around with Judy? :})

    Remember, Jim, garland is something you might hang around the neck of say, a mount on the wall. With horns. You know...a...uh...
    Damn. Name escapes me...
  47. I was a cop in my younger days. I will not divulge where but it was in the South. I know the mindset of most blacks and other minorities. “Whitey” is the ‘enemy’. They think every white person is a Klansman and they think we are all rich. I am telling you that if it were not for the thin blue-line (the police) and the 2nd amendment, white neighborhoods would be attacked in mass. Night would find you (white person) nailing up your doors and windows and sitting up all night with whatever thing you could find to protect yourself and your family with. Do not doubt me. Since most white people are armed and the police are viable,…..that catastrophe has not happened. Why do you think the leftist and the democrats want you disarmed? Half want to raid your home and the other half want you screaming for their police state to protect you. You have to vote and fight. Vote for right wingers that will protect your gun rights and start fighting at every level to protect yourself and your people. Regardless of any laws to the contrary…….NEVER give up you guns. Turn the tables on them. Make them give up their’s.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Those words of wisdom cannot be overemphasized. Although the availability of law enforcement isn’t a significant deterrent for those in rural areas the 2nd Amendment is. Only a fool would break into a home known to be occupied in my area because the castle doctrine and stand your ground laws are not nearly as forgiving as the rules law enforcement follows. Law enforcement often attempts to persuade a criminal to surrender – I won’t. Unless an intruder catches me by surprise law enforcement will arrive in time to take notes and arrange for the removal of the intruder’s carcass.
    , @Jim in Jersey
    Not sure I can fully agree with the effectiveness of the police as a shield between the criminal hoards and the honest citizen.

    By your own admission, the line is thin. It is not the police’s responsibility to keep you safe. Oddly enough, they are usually the ones to deny you the legal means to keep yourself safe.

    Without police, just like the old bumper sticker says, ‘those found here at night will be found here in the morning’.

    Most of the problems you relegate to ‘police work’ would go back to being handled by the citizen.

    Once the orcs realize that ‘hard targets’ exist outside their own areas, they would venture out more cautiously, if at all. Feeding on their own is easier, closer and less likely to have them end their day in a slab.

    If anything, the police have stunted the self defense capacity of the white male rather than the black male. That is evident by the numbers and statistics of black on black and black on white crime. If whites ever felt that leash come off, most criminal behavior would stop overnight. In fact, that’s about the only thing that will ever significantly halt crime.

    The job of the police is to investigate and restore order. They clear the path so politicians can speak. They do not exist to ‘serve and protect’ as it says on the car doors. At least not you.

    The service and protection is for the politicians who appoint the chiefs.
    , @Justvisiting
    Your post reminds me of the replica of the first white settlement in Kentucky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Fort_Harrod_State_Park).

    When you get inside the fort the first stunning thing you notice is that there are small holes (around eye level) inside the walls of every structure reaching all the way through the wall.

    Their purpose--to be filled with rifles to lay down fire against attacking hostile Indians.

    We may get there again....
  48. @Jim in Jersey
    Did you really?

    I have a friend (also VN vet) who had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard...

    Forgot just how loud a 30.06 is in the middle of the night!

    Ran back in and luckily there was no backlash from it. Fired into a tree.

    Remember, this was a small, quiet town not the rural outback of NJ!

    Nowadays, they’d have crucified him on his lawn.

    It was scary, as I have adjoining driveway with the neighbor and her kids play out there. Plus it’s only about 30 feet to her windows.
    Bullet richocetted off a soda can and put a hole through my overlapping blinds that was larger than a nickle. Inner glass panel hole was bigger, and outer one was almost quarter sized in diameter.
    What did I learn? 1) I no longer leave the phone nearby when cleaning or working on any guns. 2) I knew better but worked on a gun with my normal, EDC gun right there. Will NEVER do that again. Now the REAL message.” 3) I highly recommend the Barnes TAC XPD in 9mm for great expansion! Oh yeh, my buddy says I did a good job on his trigger. Now he wants new sights (personally, now that my eyes are old, I like XS Big Dots), but if he calls, I won’t have the phone in the same room. Maybe you’re right about age. I get easily distracted now.

  49. @Love Street
    I don’t think they’ll kick the door in and take them.
    It will be a slow subversive process making tricky laws where we will eventually have to turn em in or face heavy fines and jail time.
    Family Medical , mental history ,psych drugs etc.

    “I don’t think they’ll kick the door in and take them.”

    they don’t have to do that. they will just wait until you’re not home then come and take them. at that point in government tactics, people will either have to hide them somehow, or never leave their house. what able bodied working people can afford to never leave their house.

    agree though that instead of ordering police to kick in doors and collect weapons, generally democrats will steadily make it harder and harder to own firearms, like they’re doing in california and new york.

    they only have to wait us out 1 or 2 generations of that, not even a lifetime, before ownership becomes too much of a hassle and lots of people who would have owned weapons in the past, don’t even bother by 2030 or 2040. this is also how indoctrination via the public schools and colleges works. you only need 50 years of that to convert enough of the new population to your way of thinking to get them voluntarily voting the way you want.

    the enemy knows what they’re doing, mostly. victory on almost every issue. this is one of the few remaining.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    The smart leftists are terrified of armed white people.
    , @Love Street
    Yea they’ll probably track my kids and g kids down and take what I passed down to them. I’ll be long gone by then probably.
  50. @Jim in Jersey
    Did you really?

    I have a friend (also VN vet) who had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard...

    Forgot just how loud a 30.06 is in the middle of the night!

    Ran back in and luckily there was no backlash from it. Fired into a tree.

    Remember, this was a small, quiet town not the rural outback of NJ!

    Nowadays, they’d have crucified him on his lawn.

    …had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard…

    So…you actually know someone who messed around with Judy? :})

    Remember, Jim, garland is something you might hang around the neck of say, a mount on the wall. With horns. You know…a…uh…
    Damn. Name escapes me…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I used to hunt small game in West. St Louis County out my back door with a Garand.
    Never got bothered.

    We lived in a subdivision with a 45 degree 50 foot hill in back, and, the key point, I had a subcaliber adapter to fire a .32 ACP out of that long heavy barrel. I ate a lot of rabbits and squirrels.

    Was very quiet. Only true BB caps out of a .22 were quieter.
    , @Jim in Jersey
    Now THATS funny. I didn’t even notice.

    Damn phone (blame the tool) thinks it knows better than me. How dare a phone, especially my phone, not recognize the rifle General Patton called the greatest battle rifle ever built.

    Now remember, that was the 40’s. Lots of battle rifles have been built since. We’ve moved away from the larger bore/heavy bullet to the hyper speed, peanut-pushers of today.

    I wonder what George would say about the changeover.
  51. Please Republican heroes, protect me from Democrat meanies!
    We are defenseless against the mean ol Democrats!
    Be sure to vote Republican! They’re patriots! Like Patriot act patriots! They’re different!
    Totally not owned by the same plutocrats! Nope!
    Jeez Louise, you folks are pathetic.

    The fact that they are even entertaining this idea rather than fixing our broken healthcare system, banning Big Phama psychoziod drugs, tells you all you need to know.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    There is no future in the two party system.

    There is also no hope in ousting it.
  52. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @carnac 123
    I was a cop in my younger days. I will not divulge where but it was in the South. I know the mindset of most blacks and other minorities. "Whitey" is the 'enemy'. They think every white person is a Klansman and they think we are all rich. I am telling you that if it were not for the thin blue-line (the police) and the 2nd amendment, white neighborhoods would be attacked in mass. Night would find you (white person) nailing up your doors and windows and sitting up all night with whatever thing you could find to protect yourself and your family with. Do not doubt me. Since most white people are armed and the police are viable,.....that catastrophe has not happened. Why do you think the leftist and the democrats want you disarmed? Half want to raid your home and the other half want you screaming for their police state to protect you. You have to vote and fight. Vote for right wingers that will protect your gun rights and start fighting at every level to protect yourself and your people. Regardless of any laws to the contrary.......NEVER give up you guns. Turn the tables on them. Make them give up their's.

    Those words of wisdom cannot be overemphasized. Although the availability of law enforcement isn’t a significant deterrent for those in rural areas the 2nd Amendment is. Only a fool would break into a home known to be occupied in my area because the castle doctrine and stand your ground laws are not nearly as forgiving as the rules law enforcement follows. Law enforcement often attempts to persuade a criminal to surrender – I won’t. Unless an intruder catches me by surprise law enforcement will arrive in time to take notes and arrange for the removal of the intruder’s carcass.

  53. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oil 'n Water

    ...had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard…

     

    So...you actually know someone who messed around with Judy? :})

    Remember, Jim, garland is something you might hang around the neck of say, a mount on the wall. With horns. You know...a...uh...
    Damn. Name escapes me...

    I used to hunt small game in West. St Louis County out my back door with a Garand.
    Never got bothered.

    We lived in a subdivision with a 45 degree 50 foot hill in back, and, the key point, I had a subcaliber adapter to fire a .32 ACP out of that long heavy barrel. I ate a lot of rabbits and squirrels.

    Was very quiet. Only true BB caps out of a .22 were quieter.

  54. @Oil 'n Water

    ...had a few too many adult beverages with his buddies and took his Garland out into the yard…

     

    So...you actually know someone who messed around with Judy? :})

    Remember, Jim, garland is something you might hang around the neck of say, a mount on the wall. With horns. You know...a...uh...
    Damn. Name escapes me...

    Now THATS funny. I didn’t even notice.

    Damn phone (blame the tool) thinks it knows better than me. How dare a phone, especially my phone, not recognize the rifle General Patton called the greatest battle rifle ever built.

    Now remember, that was the 40’s. Lots of battle rifles have been built since. We’ve moved away from the larger bore/heavy bullet to the hyper speed, peanut-pushers of today.

    I wonder what George would say about the changeover.

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
    I’ve never heard the report of a 30-06, but if it’s anything like my 357 mag revolver, it’s gotta make a racket.
    Amazing to me that all the infantry in WW2 didn’t come back stone deaf.
  55. @redmudhooch
    Please Republican heroes, protect me from Democrat meanies!
    We are defenseless against the mean ol Democrats!
    Be sure to vote Republican! They're patriots! Like Patriot act patriots! They're different!
    Totally not owned by the same plutocrats! Nope!
    Jeez Louise, you folks are pathetic.

    The fact that they are even entertaining this idea rather than fixing our broken healthcare system, banning Big Phama psychoziod drugs, tells you all you need to know.

    There is no future in the two party system.

    There is also no hope in ousting it.

  56. @carnac 123
    I was a cop in my younger days. I will not divulge where but it was in the South. I know the mindset of most blacks and other minorities. "Whitey" is the 'enemy'. They think every white person is a Klansman and they think we are all rich. I am telling you that if it were not for the thin blue-line (the police) and the 2nd amendment, white neighborhoods would be attacked in mass. Night would find you (white person) nailing up your doors and windows and sitting up all night with whatever thing you could find to protect yourself and your family with. Do not doubt me. Since most white people are armed and the police are viable,.....that catastrophe has not happened. Why do you think the leftist and the democrats want you disarmed? Half want to raid your home and the other half want you screaming for their police state to protect you. You have to vote and fight. Vote for right wingers that will protect your gun rights and start fighting at every level to protect yourself and your people. Regardless of any laws to the contrary.......NEVER give up you guns. Turn the tables on them. Make them give up their's.

    Not sure I can fully agree with the effectiveness of the police as a shield between the criminal hoards and the honest citizen.

    By your own admission, the line is thin. It is not the police’s responsibility to keep you safe. Oddly enough, they are usually the ones to deny you the legal means to keep yourself safe.

    Without police, just like the old bumper sticker says, ‘those found here at night will be found here in the morning’.

    Most of the problems you relegate to ‘police work’ would go back to being handled by the citizen.

    Once the orcs realize that ‘hard targets’ exist outside their own areas, they would venture out more cautiously, if at all. Feeding on their own is easier, closer and less likely to have them end their day in a slab.

    If anything, the police have stunted the self defense capacity of the white male rather than the black male. That is evident by the numbers and statistics of black on black and black on white crime. If whites ever felt that leash come off, most criminal behavior would stop overnight. In fact, that’s about the only thing that will ever significantly halt crime.

    The job of the police is to investigate and restore order. They clear the path so politicians can speak. They do not exist to ‘serve and protect’ as it says on the car doors. At least not you.

    The service and protection is for the politicians who appoint the chiefs.

  57. @carnac 123
    I was a cop in my younger days. I will not divulge where but it was in the South. I know the mindset of most blacks and other minorities. "Whitey" is the 'enemy'. They think every white person is a Klansman and they think we are all rich. I am telling you that if it were not for the thin blue-line (the police) and the 2nd amendment, white neighborhoods would be attacked in mass. Night would find you (white person) nailing up your doors and windows and sitting up all night with whatever thing you could find to protect yourself and your family with. Do not doubt me. Since most white people are armed and the police are viable,.....that catastrophe has not happened. Why do you think the leftist and the democrats want you disarmed? Half want to raid your home and the other half want you screaming for their police state to protect you. You have to vote and fight. Vote for right wingers that will protect your gun rights and start fighting at every level to protect yourself and your people. Regardless of any laws to the contrary.......NEVER give up you guns. Turn the tables on them. Make them give up their's.

    Your post reminds me of the replica of the first white settlement in Kentucky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Fort_Harrod_State_Park).

    When you get inside the fort the first stunning thing you notice is that there are small holes (around eye level) inside the walls of every structure reaching all the way through the wall.

    Their purpose–to be filled with rifles to lay down fire against attacking hostile Indians.

    We may get there again….

  58. @Jim in Jersey
    Now THATS funny. I didn’t even notice.

    Damn phone (blame the tool) thinks it knows better than me. How dare a phone, especially my phone, not recognize the rifle General Patton called the greatest battle rifle ever built.

    Now remember, that was the 40’s. Lots of battle rifles have been built since. We’ve moved away from the larger bore/heavy bullet to the hyper speed, peanut-pushers of today.

    I wonder what George would say about the changeover.

    I’ve never heard the report of a 30-06, but if it’s anything like my 357 mag revolver, it’s gotta make a racket.
    Amazing to me that all the infantry in WW2 didn’t come back stone deaf.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    At my father's funeral they fired a three volley salute. Third one added a few M1s. I saw a lot of people flinch. They were lolled to sleep by the M16s, but 2 M1s woke the gods.
  59. @prime noticer
    "I don’t think they’ll kick the door in and take them."

    they don't have to do that. they will just wait until you're not home then come and take them. at that point in government tactics, people will either have to hide them somehow, or never leave their house. what able bodied working people can afford to never leave their house.

    agree though that instead of ordering police to kick in doors and collect weapons, generally democrats will steadily make it harder and harder to own firearms, like they're doing in california and new york.

    they only have to wait us out 1 or 2 generations of that, not even a lifetime, before ownership becomes too much of a hassle and lots of people who would have owned weapons in the past, don't even bother by 2030 or 2040. this is also how indoctrination via the public schools and colleges works. you only need 50 years of that to convert enough of the new population to your way of thinking to get them voluntarily voting the way you want.

    the enemy knows what they're doing, mostly. victory on almost every issue. this is one of the few remaining.

    The smart leftists are terrified of armed white people.

  60. @Oil 'n Water
    I’ve never heard the report of a 30-06, but if it’s anything like my 357 mag revolver, it’s gotta make a racket.
    Amazing to me that all the infantry in WW2 didn’t come back stone deaf.

    At my father’s funeral they fired a three volley salute. Third one added a few M1s. I saw a lot of people flinch. They were lolled to sleep by the M16s, but 2 M1s woke the gods.

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
    Way off topic, but concerning WW2, while most people are familiar with the Battle of the Bulge, not as many know of the U.S. First Army battle in the Hurtgen Forest.

    Not only was it the longest conflict of the war, extending over several months, but it cost the American Army more than 30,000 soldiers killed or wounded. Out of one American company, for instance, only six soldiers remained. German losses were around 28,000.

    Casualties were so high on both sides, that truces had to be called to allow medics to treat wounded on the battlefield. It’s said that German and American medics treated whomever they encountered first, regardless of their uniform.


    https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/battle-of-hurtgen-forest.html
  61. @Augustus
    At my father's funeral they fired a three volley salute. Third one added a few M1s. I saw a lot of people flinch. They were lolled to sleep by the M16s, but 2 M1s woke the gods.

    Way off topic, but concerning WW2, while most people are familiar with the Battle of the Bulge, not as many know of the U.S. First Army battle in the Hurtgen Forest.

    Not only was it the longest conflict of the war, extending over several months, but it cost the American Army more than 30,000 soldiers killed or wounded. Out of one American company, for instance, only six soldiers remained. German losses were around 28,000.

    Casualties were so high on both sides, that truces had to be called to allow medics to treat wounded on the battlefield. It’s said that German and American medics treated whomever they encountered first, regardless of their uniform.

    https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/battle-of-hurtgen-forest.html

  62. @prime noticer
    "I don’t think they’ll kick the door in and take them."

    they don't have to do that. they will just wait until you're not home then come and take them. at that point in government tactics, people will either have to hide them somehow, or never leave their house. what able bodied working people can afford to never leave their house.

    agree though that instead of ordering police to kick in doors and collect weapons, generally democrats will steadily make it harder and harder to own firearms, like they're doing in california and new york.

    they only have to wait us out 1 or 2 generations of that, not even a lifetime, before ownership becomes too much of a hassle and lots of people who would have owned weapons in the past, don't even bother by 2030 or 2040. this is also how indoctrination via the public schools and colleges works. you only need 50 years of that to convert enough of the new population to your way of thinking to get them voluntarily voting the way you want.

    the enemy knows what they're doing, mostly. victory on almost every issue. this is one of the few remaining.

    Yea they’ll probably track my kids and g kids down and take what I passed down to them. I’ll be long gone by then probably.

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