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Races reversed, the biggest story in America. Right? You know what happens when a black individual engages in a mass shooting? Silence from the corporate media. They can’t be promoting racial stereotypes, can they?

Confirming them wouldn’t be productive, right?

No narrative (white gun owner, with obviously racist leanings, engaging in a mass shooting to justify his small sexual organ) to advance…

Only hours before the day tens of thousands of white people would peacefully march with AR-15s and other semi-automatic weapons in Richmond, Virginia, defending their right to bear arms (defending the 2nd Amendment in the face of tyranny), a black criminal in Missouri would once again remind the nation why the 2nd Amendment should be null and void for blacks [Police identify gunman in mass shooting outside Kansas City bar, KCTV5.com, January 20, 2020]:

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) — Police continue to investigate after a mass shooting took place at a nightclub Sunday night.

Two people were killed, one of whom was the shooter. At least 15 people were injured.

The shooter is identified as 29-year-old
of Kansas City, Missouri. He has a record meaning he shouldn’t have had a gun, but he has several.

Police said that an armed private security guard at the club shot and killed Swift about 11:30 p.m. just outside of 9ine Ultra Lounge located in the 4800 block of Noland Road.

The victim is 25-year-old Raeven A. Parks of Kansas City.

At least three of the 15 injured victims are in critical condition.

Police say they have not yet interviewed all of the victims and do not yet know whether all were injured by gunfire.

Investigators recovered multiple firearms at the scene. It appears the suspect and the security guard were the only ones who fired shots, police said.

KCTV5 News spoke to a security guard who was at the nightclub, he says the gunman got into a fight with a few guys and was denied entry. That was when the gunman went to his car to get the gun he then used to shoot into the crowd.

“One second everyone was just sitting there trying to get into the club. I believe it was at capacity in there, honestly. Then next thing you know, boom, boom, boom. About five shots rang out. People start falling, scattering,” Larry Phillips, who lives near the nightclub, said.

Detectives ask anyone who was there at the time of the incident to contact the Homicide Unit at 816-234-5043 or the TIPS Hotline at 816-474-TIPS.

Police also would like to see any possible cell phone videos that were taken at the club that night around the time of the shooting.

ORDER IT NOW

29-year-old Jahron Swift, a black criminal, shouldn’t have even possessed a firearm. But he did. And he shot 16 people, killing one. Gun control is nothing more than an effort by the elite to disarm white people across America, who are starting to notice the dispossession of whites via mass 3rd world immigration means the end of their rights.

Mr. Swift wasn’t legally allowed to own a gun, but he did anyway. And he shot 16 people with it, killing one.

Gun control was never about targeting black gangbangers who perform almost all of the acts of gun violence across not just Kansas City, or Missouri, or the United States; no, it’s about disarming law-abiding white Americans.

 

 

 
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  1. Gun control was never about targeting black gangbangers

    It was in 1832 Virginia.

    No free negro or mulatto shall be suffered to keep or carry any firelock of any kind, any military weapon, or any powder or lead…

    There were some blacks at the Richmond rally Monday. On the gunners’ side. Odd.

  2. Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.

    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don’t seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    • Replies: @Mark in MI
    Are you on drugs or just plain stupid?
    , @CDebussey
    With any luck maybe you'll live long enough to witness the US devolve into veritable paradises like Somalia, or Sudan. Hell why not move there now and hasten your happiness.
    , @Texas Alt-Right Gamer
    Let me guess. You are one of those tiresome self-hating White leftists, right?

    Perhaps you should find a site that is a better "fit" for than this one....that is unless you are just here to troll and stir up trouble.
    , @Johnny Smoggins
    Sorry dude but Corvinus, Thomm and Tiny Duck have sewn up the troll slots here. You should try Breitbart, I hear they're hiring.
    , @John Johnson
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.

    Washington, California and Virginia all have a list of control bills that they plan on passing this year. The New York State change was insignificant as concealed carry is still nearly impossible to get in New York City.

    What white nationalists don’t seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white.

    This is because Black violence peaked in the 90s and Hispanics have a lower violent crime rate but not as low as Whites. So through a dishonest sleight of hand you can make that argument but it is easily defeated.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Show the homicide rates for each racial group and explain your conclusion.
    , @HT
    Earth to JohnPlywood ...
    , @Rusty nail

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.
     
    Folks, I think I found another one hiding in the woodpile.
    , @bruce county
    And of course you believe in the Tooth Fairy and Unicorns.
    The sooner one of your pets diversifies you the better, for the Continent.
    , @Dave453
    Hey look, a paod troll sent to destory discussions.
    , @By-tor
    Don't respond to the Plywood retard. He is just spanking his plank.
    , @Blue Juice
    Ugh! James Comey...is that you? Changed your name from "Reinhold Niebuhr" to "JohnPlywood" eh? Stop trolling the internet looking for "evil white-supremacists" and stay off the blog!
  3. I wonder why the tv news didn’t print The ‘’Gunmans’’mr swift first name ?
    JAHRON.

  4. I saw this story in the Daily Mail. Its global news significance was a result of it being tied to the Kansas City Chiefs win that day and their upcoming appearance in the Super Bowl. The real issue is not ‘guns’ per se but the problem of negro dominated night clubs. I knew the ‘story’ as soon as I read ‘armed’ security shot the shooter dead.

    Folks, if a nightclub has to have gun toting bouncers to operate it shouldn’t be allowed to operate. It is no longer a nightclub but a public safety problem. Local officials know the names of these ‘clubs’ and so do police. They are often hired as the private security so its a lucrative, if dangerous extra job for them since funeral processions have gone out of style.

    Almost every city in the US has similar ‘incidents’. Negroes gather late at night at their nightclubs. A fight breaks out and the crowd is sprayed with bullets. Happened in Tampa a couple of weeks ago. Same story different location. These clubs need to be shut down or, failing that, be held responsible for the conduct of their patrons.

  5. Well this just shows again that liberals are hypocrites, but the truth is that no one, not even liberals, not even blacks, cares about blacks killing blacks. Whites killing blacks, or whites killing whites, that’s news to promote. Blacks killing whites, that’s something to hide. But blacks killing blacks? That’s just a dog bites man story.

  6. Gun control was never about targeting black gangbangers who perform almost all of the acts of gun violence across not just Kansas City, or Missouri, or the United States; no, it’s about disarming law-abiding white Americans.

    Yep, it would be nice if Whites would wake up.

  7. Gun control was never about targeting black gangbangers who perform almost all of the acts of gun violence across not just Kansas City, or Missouri, or the United States; no, it’s about disarming law-abiding white Americans.

    Original gun control was used to disarm freed Blacks after the War of Northern Aggression.

    Modern gun control is used to disarm Whites.

    Were all Blacks prohibited from owning any firearms their communities would look about the same and be just as dysfunctional.

  8. This is how blacks have a good time. Get more than 10 or 15 together someplace and you have a good chance of a shooting or stabbing.

    • Replies: @Female in FL
    I respectfully disagree, 3 or 4 will do the trick.
    , @Hans
    Oh, I'd heard it 3 was critical mass.
  9. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Are you on drugs or just plain stupid?

    • LOL: CDebussey
    • Replies: @Swamp Fox
    My vote: plain stupid with a chance of negro.
    , @AR in Illinois
    Hes' a troll looking for responses. We should all just ignore his retardation.
    , @NC Realist
    I believe he/she practices plagiarism. A common ploy of the "talented tenth". Goes to their favorite "white nationalist" website and reverses the roles.Yet another waste.
    , @Texas Alt-Right Gamer
    Assuming he is not just trying to stir up the regulars by trolling, he's most likely a DWL. Folks like him know deep down inside the truth about how impulsive and violent our black population (and to a slightly lesser extent hispanics/mestizos) is compared to that of Whites and East Asians. But he would never, ever, admit it in person, especially to his political enemies. The leftist/naive egalitarian world view is akin to a religion as it flies in the face of observable facts and has to be taken on faith.

    That being said, giving his taunting and over the top comments (ie in the thread above this were he claims that pro-Whites will be committing suicide in response to crime statistics) my money is on him being just another troll that the site staff needs to flush.
    , @Mr. Rational
    He has the hallmarks of being hasbara.
  10. Blacks never learned to point UP when firing in celebration of their favorite team’s wins or losses.

    So stay out of black nightclubs during pointy ball season, ball and stick season, bouncy ball season… aw, just stay out of black nightclubs.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    Blacks never learned to point UP when firing in celebration of their favorite team’s wins or losses.

    Same problem every year in Black areas around New Years. The cities do PSAs but to no avail.

    If they fired straight up it actually wouldn't be a problem.
    , @AnalogMan
    Firing up in celebration is a bloody stupid thing to do. A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.
  11. @Mark in MI
    Are you on drugs or just plain stupid?

    My vote: plain stupid with a chance of negro.

  12. @Mark in MI
    Are you on drugs or just plain stupid?

    Hes’ a troll looking for responses. We should all just ignore his retardation.

    • Agree: Love Street
  13. This page is awesome! I can’t believe this is the first I have heard of this unz.com. I am thrilled that someone linked me to your page!

    • Replies: @Love Street
    🤫😀
  14. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    With any luck maybe you’ll live long enough to witness the US devolve into veritable paradises like Somalia, or Sudan. Hell why not move there now and hasten your happiness.

  15. From a bit I saw yesterday. A man who bought toys for all the kids in da ‘hood was stabbed to death and his home was set on fire. His name was L. Antonio Litman and he must’ve been killed by a white guy who used the Virginia get-together to hide his nefarious plot in another part of the country doing evil wipipo things…

    “The bighearted founder of a charity that gives toys to impoverished children was found dead with stab wounds in his burning Brooklyn brownstone early Monday, cops said.

    L. Antonio Litman, known for his hearty laugh, personally bought every kid on his Fort Greene block a hoverboard for Christmas, neighbors shocked by his suspicious death said.”

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    Shocked by his suspicious death.

    Stabbed, and his house set on fire.

    Obvious case of suicide.
  16. @Mark in MI
    Are you on drugs or just plain stupid?

    I believe he/she practices plagiarism. A common ploy of the “talented tenth”. Goes to their favorite “white nationalist” website and reverses the roles.Yet another waste.

  17. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Let me guess. You are one of those tiresome self-hating White leftists, right?

    Perhaps you should find a site that is a better “fit” for than this one….that is unless you are just here to troll and stir up trouble.

  18. @Mark in MI
    Are you on drugs or just plain stupid?

    Assuming he is not just trying to stir up the regulars by trolling, he’s most likely a DWL. Folks like him know deep down inside the truth about how impulsive and violent our black population (and to a slightly lesser extent hispanics/mestizos) is compared to that of Whites and East Asians. But he would never, ever, admit it in person, especially to his political enemies. The leftist/naive egalitarian world view is akin to a religion as it flies in the face of observable facts and has to be taken on faith.

    That being said, giving his taunting and over the top comments (ie in the thread above this were he claims that pro-Whites will be committing suicide in response to crime statistics) my money is on him being just another troll that the site staff needs to flush.

  19. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Sorry dude but Corvinus, Thomm and Tiny Duck have sewn up the troll slots here. You should try Breitbart, I hear they’re hiring.

  20. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.

    Washington, California and Virginia all have a list of control bills that they plan on passing this year. The New York State change was insignificant as concealed carry is still nearly impossible to get in New York City.

    What white nationalists don’t seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white.

    This is because Black violence peaked in the 90s and Hispanics have a lower violent crime rate but not as low as Whites. So through a dishonest sleight of hand you can make that argument but it is easily defeated.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Show the homicide rates for each racial group and explain your conclusion.

  21. @HT
    This is how blacks have a good time. Get more than 10 or 15 together someplace and you have a good chance of a shooting or stabbing.

    I respectfully disagree, 3 or 4 will do the trick.

    • Replies: @Gunga Din
    I'd of said 2, but what do I know.
  22. Off Topic:

    Notorious B.I.G. and Whitney Houston have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They beat out nominees Pat Benatar and Judas Priest. As a consolation, Pat Priest will be inducted into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.

    • Replies: @Love Street
    The R&R HoF is a bunch of p c shi*libs.
    , @AR in Illinois
    Ha, was in Cleveland just 2 weeks ago. The wife actually wanted to go here but, thankfully, we didn't have time. What a total crock of crap that place is. JP has been a group for over 50 years and has sold millions of records but they are constantly snubbed for this "honor". There are also several other hard rock bands/performers that have also been continually been cast aside every year for this. So, let's induct a fat, dead, criminal rapper that sold 357 records 20 years ago. What a farce. Oh, and all the reviews I read said their food is over-priced...shocking!
    , @Lancelot Link
    "The RRHOF Foundation was established in 1983 by Ahmet Ertegun, who assembled a team that included Rolling Stone publisher Jann S. Wenner, record executives Seymour Stein, Bob Krasnow, and Noreen Woods, and attorneys Allen Grubman and Suzan Evans."

    - From a wiki page

    Sounds pretty (((Hollywood))) to me.
  23. @HT
    This is how blacks have a good time. Get more than 10 or 15 together someplace and you have a good chance of a shooting or stabbing.

    Oh, I’d heard it 3 was critical mass.

  24. @Brickman1982
    This page is awesome! I can't believe this is the first I have heard of this unz.com. I am thrilled that someone linked me to your page!

    🤫😀

  25. • LOL: WSG
    • Replies: @Lancelot Link
    The Anti-Defamation League warned back in November that the word had been hijacked by white nationalists and should now not be used.

    “Many boogaloo references are directed against the ‘alphabet boys’ or ‘alphabet gang’ – federal agencies like the FBI and ATF – which people assume would assist in any gun confiscations,” wrote ADL in their report.

    - From the quoted article

    Strange how the ADL has a magic hotline to the alphabet soup groups well known for screwing over its citizens on fake evidence to imprison them if not kill them outright. Wonder why that is?
  26. @Cowtown Rebel
    Off Topic:

    Notorious B.I.G. and Whitney Houston have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They beat out nominees Pat Benatar and Judas Priest. As a consolation, Pat Priest will be inducted into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.

    The R&R HoF is a bunch of p c shi*libs.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Gunga Din
    When you consider the people/groups that get in (rappers?) and the ones that don't, the HoF is meaningless.
  27. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Earth to JohnPlywood …

  28. @Jim in Jersey
    Blacks never learned to point UP when firing in celebration of their favorite team’s wins or losses.

    So stay out of black nightclubs during pointy ball season, ball and stick season, bouncy ball season... aw, just stay out of black nightclubs.

    Blacks never learned to point UP when firing in celebration of their favorite team’s wins or losses.

    Same problem every year in Black areas around New Years. The cities do PSAs but to no avail.

    If they fired straight up it actually wouldn’t be a problem.

    • Disagree: AnalogMan
    • Replies: @Love Street
    It would not be a problem if the bullet came straight down on the perp in the hood.
  29. And in San Antonio the same day…

    Kieran Christopher Williams opened fire in the Ventura,
    a music club along the River Walk, during what appears
    to have been a hip-hop concert. Two dead, five wounded.

    https://wikifoxnews.com/kieran-christopher-williams-wiki-bio/

    https://twitter.com/SATXPolice/status/1219379336400265218/photo/1

  30. @Jim in Jersey
    Blacks never learned to point UP when firing in celebration of their favorite team’s wins or losses.

    So stay out of black nightclubs during pointy ball season, ball and stick season, bouncy ball season... aw, just stay out of black nightclubs.

    Firing up in celebration is a bloody stupid thing to do. A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    • Replies: @Possumman
    You mean if it is shot up into the air from a handgun at 900 fps it will return to earth at 900 fps----and if it is a rifle round and is shot upwards at 2400 fps it will return at 2400 fps??? must be smart bullets
    , @Jim in Jersey
    I was kind just making fun but once a projectile loses its energy and falls back to earth, isn’t it just like being dropped from a height?

    This is more akin to dropping a penny off the Empire State Building... already proven to be a non issue. A bullet-sized object, gravity being the only force acting upon it, just doesn’t have enough mass to inflict lethal damage.

    The trouble comes when they DON‘T shoot straight up and the bullet never expends all its energy and inadvertently strikes someone a mile away.
    , @S
    I recall an incident in Beirut some years ago where huge crowds were celebrating by firing AK-47's into the air and nineteen people died due to falling bullets.

    Of course, it's not always 'just' the bullets that come back down from shooting wildly into the air...

    October 12, 2003: Wedding guests in Belgrade, Serbia mistakenly shot down a small aircraft.

    October 30, 2012: Twenty-three people were electrocuted after celebratory gunfire brought down a power cable during a wedding party in eastern Saudi Arabia.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire

    , @John Johnson
    A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    If you fire straight up it doesn't come back down with equal force.

    People are killed by wild shots that are angled.

    But it doesn't take much of an angle for them to remain lethal.

    , @flyingtiger
    It you are hit by gunfire this way, it is called being hit by "Happy Fire." Happens in Moslem areas a lot.
  31. @Lancelot Link
    From a bit I saw yesterday. A man who bought toys for all the kids in da 'hood was stabbed to death and his home was set on fire. His name was L. Antonio Litman and he must've been killed by a white guy who used the Virginia get-together to hide his nefarious plot in another part of the country doing evil wipipo things...

    "The bighearted founder of a charity that gives toys to impoverished children was found dead with stab wounds in his burning Brooklyn brownstone early Monday, cops said.

    L. Antonio Litman, known for his hearty laugh, personally bought every kid on his Fort Greene block a hoverboard for Christmas, neighbors shocked by his suspicious death said."

    Shocked by his suspicious death.

    Stabbed, and his house set on fire.

    Obvious case of suicide.

  32. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Folks, I think I found another one hiding in the woodpile.

  33. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    And of course you believe in the Tooth Fairy and Unicorns.
    The sooner one of your pets diversifies you the better, for the Continent.

  34. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Hey look, a paod troll sent to destory discussions.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Destroy discussions?

    I thinks that’s giving him far too much credit.

    If anything, he makes you recognize the sheer idiocy of the left.
  35. @John Johnson
    Blacks never learned to point UP when firing in celebration of their favorite team’s wins or losses.

    Same problem every year in Black areas around New Years. The cities do PSAs but to no avail.

    If they fired straight up it actually wouldn't be a problem.

    It would not be a problem if the bullet came straight down on the perp in the hood.

  36. @AnalogMan
    Firing up in celebration is a bloody stupid thing to do. A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    You mean if it is shot up into the air from a handgun at 900 fps it will return to earth at 900 fps—-and if it is a rifle round and is shot upwards at 2400 fps it will return at 2400 fps??? must be smart bullets

  37. @Cowtown Rebel
    Off Topic:

    Notorious B.I.G. and Whitney Houston have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They beat out nominees Pat Benatar and Judas Priest. As a consolation, Pat Priest will be inducted into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.

    Ha, was in Cleveland just 2 weeks ago. The wife actually wanted to go here but, thankfully, we didn’t have time. What a total crock of crap that place is. JP has been a group for over 50 years and has sold millions of records but they are constantly snubbed for this “honor”. There are also several other hard rock bands/performers that have also been continually been cast aside every year for this. So, let’s induct a fat, dead, criminal rapper that sold 357 records 20 years ago. What a farce. Oh, and all the reviews I read said their food is over-priced…shocking!

    • Replies: @Love Street
    R&R hall of shame.
    Well said. AR
    , @Cowtown Rebel
    Didn't anyone get the Pat Priest joke? I guess I'm showing my age. But, yeah, I remember when N.W.A. was inducted. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has always been commercial and P.C.

    I saw Judas Priest on their Defenders of The Faith tour, and they played four or five encores. They are, perhaps, the only band I've seen that played everything I wanted to hear. The most surprising thing to me was when they asked the audience what they wanted to hear? I yelled, "The Ripper" and although other songs were loudly suggested, it was the classic, "The Ripper," that they launched into. We, my friends and I, always wanted to believe that Halford wasn't a Homo, but then he came out and announced what we all had already suspected, and I haven't been able to listen to them with same level of enthusiasm since.

    https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7326464/ice-cube-gene-simmons-nwa-rock-hall-speech
  38. @AnalogMan
    Firing up in celebration is a bloody stupid thing to do. A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    I was kind just making fun but once a projectile loses its energy and falls back to earth, isn’t it just like being dropped from a height?

    This is more akin to dropping a penny off the Empire State Building… already proven to be a non issue. A bullet-sized object, gravity being the only force acting upon it, just doesn’t have enough mass to inflict lethal damage.

    The trouble comes when they DON‘T shoot straight up and the bullet never expends all its energy and inadvertently strikes someone a mile away.

    • Replies: @John12755
    Jim in Jersey
    Your first sentence us correct. Your second is false. A bullet, being far heavier than a penny, has much more momentum, and it can kill you.
    , @AnalogMan
    I was talking in ball-park terms. If you fire a bullet straight up, it slows, stops, and comes down again. Now, I'm no physicist, and I may be using these terms (force, energy, momentum etc) incorrectly, but bear with me.

    The bullet loses force under the influences of gravity, and friction with the air. When it runs out of steam, it stops and starts downward. Its downward journey is propelled by the same gravity that slowed its ascent, and slowed by friction with the air. So, yes, I would expect it to land with the same force that propelled it upward - less the amount lost to friction. Quite enough to kill.

    When I lived in South Africa, about 1970, there was a case a couple of miles from where I lived, in an area of agricultural smallholdings west of Johannesburg. Low density housing. A couple came home from a New Year's party to find their 11-year-old daughter dead in her bed, shot through the head.

    The shooter heard about it on the news, and gave himself up to the police a few days later. They were already calculating the bullet's trajectory from the hole in the roof; they'd have caught him eventually. I'm sure he was devastated. Like many here, he never considered what would happen when that bullet fell. There were few houses around, practically no chance of hitting anyone, and he probably naively expected the bullet would flutter to the ground like a snowflake.

    He was wrong.

    There were reports from America last July of a child killed by a falling bullet. Whether it fell absolutely vertically (obviously it didn't, else the shooter would be right there) or not, makes no difference to the child or his parents. It was a bloody stupid thing to do. Don't do it.
  39. @AnalogMan
    Firing up in celebration is a bloody stupid thing to do. A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    I recall an incident in Beirut some years ago where huge crowds were celebrating by firing AK-47’s into the air and nineteen people died due to falling bullets.

    Of course, it’s not always ‘just’ the bullets that come back down from shooting wildly into the air…

    October 12, 2003: Wedding guests in Belgrade, Serbia mistakenly shot down a small aircraft.

    October 30, 2012: Twenty-three people were electrocuted after celebratory gunfire brought down a power cable during a wedding party in eastern Saudi Arabia.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire

    • Replies: @Female in FL
    Oh well, stuff happens.
  40. @AnalogMan
    Firing up in celebration is a bloody stupid thing to do. A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    If you fire straight up it doesn’t come back down with equal force.

    People are killed by wild shots that are angled.

    But it doesn’t take much of an angle for them to remain lethal.

    • Replies: @Aldon
    Too bad for the Kangz.
  41. @S
    I recall an incident in Beirut some years ago where huge crowds were celebrating by firing AK-47's into the air and nineteen people died due to falling bullets.

    Of course, it's not always 'just' the bullets that come back down from shooting wildly into the air...

    October 12, 2003: Wedding guests in Belgrade, Serbia mistakenly shot down a small aircraft.

    October 30, 2012: Twenty-three people were electrocuted after celebratory gunfire brought down a power cable during a wedding party in eastern Saudi Arabia.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire

    Oh well, stuff happens.

  42. @AR in Illinois
    Ha, was in Cleveland just 2 weeks ago. The wife actually wanted to go here but, thankfully, we didn't have time. What a total crock of crap that place is. JP has been a group for over 50 years and has sold millions of records but they are constantly snubbed for this "honor". There are also several other hard rock bands/performers that have also been continually been cast aside every year for this. So, let's induct a fat, dead, criminal rapper that sold 357 records 20 years ago. What a farce. Oh, and all the reviews I read said their food is over-priced...shocking!

    R&R hall of shame.
    Well said. AR

  43. @AnalogMan
    Firing up in celebration is a bloody stupid thing to do. A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    It you are hit by gunfire this way, it is called being hit by “Happy Fire.” Happens in Moslem areas a lot.

  44. @Dave453
    Hey look, a paod troll sent to destory discussions.

    Destroy discussions?

    I thinks that’s giving him far too much credit.

    If anything, he makes you recognize the sheer idiocy of the left.

  45. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Don’t respond to the Plywood retard. He is just spanking his plank.

  46. ‘… Shoots 15 People, Killing One…’

    Their marksmanship really is appalling.

    Do they aim at all? Numbers like this suggest not.

    • Replies: @Trevor
    "Their marksmanship really is appalling"

    It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.

    Unless directly hit in the heart or a major artery causing immediate bleed-out, they will probably make it to the hospital.

    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)

    It is the same reason there are fewer combat deaths. Quick access to medical facilities from the battlefield and modern technology results in fewer deaths than occurred in WW2 battle conditions.
  47. @Mark in MI
    Are you on drugs or just plain stupid?

    He has the hallmarks of being hasbara.

  48. @John Johnson
    A bullet fired up does not achieve escape velocity; in other words, it always comes down again, and with equal force. Every year, people are killed by these wild shots, and still the idiots who fire them never learn.

    If you fire straight up it doesn't come back down with equal force.

    People are killed by wild shots that are angled.

    But it doesn't take much of an angle for them to remain lethal.

    Too bad for the Kangz.

  49. @Cowtown Rebel
    Off Topic:

    Notorious B.I.G. and Whitney Houston have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They beat out nominees Pat Benatar and Judas Priest. As a consolation, Pat Priest will be inducted into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.

    “The RRHOF Foundation was established in 1983 by Ahmet Ertegun, who assembled a team that included Rolling Stone publisher Jann S. Wenner, record executives Seymour Stein, Bob Krasnow, and Noreen Woods, and attorneys Allen Grubman and Suzan Evans.”

    – From a wiki page

    Sounds pretty (((Hollywood))) to me.

    • Replies: @AR in Illinois
    Rolling Stone magazine ...about as libtarded as it gets
  50. @El Dato

    The Anti-Defamation League warned back in November that the word had been hijacked by white nationalists and should now not be used.

    “Many boogaloo references are directed against the ‘alphabet boys’ or ‘alphabet gang’ – federal agencies like the FBI and ATF – which people assume would assist in any gun confiscations,” wrote ADL in their report.

    – From the quoted article

    Strange how the ADL has a magic hotline to the alphabet soup groups well known for screwing over its citizens on fake evidence to imprison them if not kill them outright. Wonder why that is?

  51. @Jim in Jersey
    I was kind just making fun but once a projectile loses its energy and falls back to earth, isn’t it just like being dropped from a height?

    This is more akin to dropping a penny off the Empire State Building... already proven to be a non issue. A bullet-sized object, gravity being the only force acting upon it, just doesn’t have enough mass to inflict lethal damage.

    The trouble comes when they DON‘T shoot straight up and the bullet never expends all its energy and inadvertently strikes someone a mile away.

    Jim in Jersey
    Your first sentence us correct. Your second is false. A bullet, being far heavier than a penny, has much more momentum, and it can kill you.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    I’d have to disagree.

    Falling under its own power, air friction slowing it further... I would doubt it would even penetrate skin. Maybe a bruise but I can’t see any more than that.

    Maybe once you get into .50 caliber, 20mm....
    , @Possumman
    Penny weighs about 126 grains ----9mm bullet weight usually between 124 -150 grains----not that much difference---gee you could look it up!
  52. @AR in Illinois
    Ha, was in Cleveland just 2 weeks ago. The wife actually wanted to go here but, thankfully, we didn't have time. What a total crock of crap that place is. JP has been a group for over 50 years and has sold millions of records but they are constantly snubbed for this "honor". There are also several other hard rock bands/performers that have also been continually been cast aside every year for this. So, let's induct a fat, dead, criminal rapper that sold 357 records 20 years ago. What a farce. Oh, and all the reviews I read said their food is over-priced...shocking!

    Didn’t anyone get the Pat Priest joke? I guess I’m showing my age. But, yeah, I remember when N.W.A. was inducted. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has always been commercial and P.C.

    I saw Judas Priest on their Defenders of The Faith tour, and they played four or five encores. They are, perhaps, the only band I’ve seen that played everything I wanted to hear. The most surprising thing to me was when they asked the audience what they wanted to hear? I yelled, “The Ripper” and although other songs were loudly suggested, it was the classic, “The Ripper,” that they launched into. We, my friends and I, always wanted to believe that Halford wasn’t a Homo, but then he came out and announced what we all had already suspected, and I haven’t been able to listen to them with same level of enthusiasm since.

    https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7326464/ice-cube-gene-simmons-nwa-rock-hall-speech

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    I did indeed get the Pat Priest reference, equally dating myself.

    I’ll let the others investigate should they be interested...
  53. There was a time when white folks could go to a nightclub patronized primarily by blacks, have a good time, and live to tell about it. Unfortunately, that was so long ago that the establishments were quaintly called ‘discos!”

  54. C’mon, we all know the 2nd Amendment exists so a dude has recourse if he’s ever denied entry to his preferred watering hole, right?

  55. @JohnPlywood
    Gun control is a thing of the past. Gun ownership is skyrocieting and new relaxed carry laws are being passed all over the country, most recently in New York State.


    The gun control crowd was beaten by the decreasing rate of violent crime in America. When violent crime is decreasing as gun ownership increases, gun control is naturally defeated.

    What white nationalists don't seem to realize is that they too are also defeated, as the violent crime rate has dropped precipitiously as the country got less white. Meaning white nationalism and Republican politics suffer the same fate as gun control.

    Results are all that matter. Fewer young adult whites = less crime.

    Ugh! James Comey…is that you? Changed your name from “Reinhold Niebuhr” to “JohnPlywood” eh? Stop trolling the internet looking for “evil white-supremacists” and stay off the blog!

  56. @Female in FL
    I respectfully disagree, 3 or 4 will do the trick.

    I’d of said 2, but what do I know.

    • LOL: Female in FL
  57. @Love Street
    The R&R HoF is a bunch of p c shi*libs.

    When you consider the people/groups that get in (rappers?) and the ones that don’t, the HoF is meaningless.

  58. Q Who wants gun control? A Wealthy jews.

  59. @Colin Wright
    '... Shoots 15 People, Killing One...'

    Their marksmanship really is appalling.

    Do they aim at all? Numbers like this suggest not.

    “Their marksmanship really is appalling”

    It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.

    Unless directly hit in the heart or a major artery causing immediate bleed-out, they will probably make it to the hospital.

    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)

    It is the same reason there are fewer combat deaths. Quick access to medical facilities from the battlefield and modern technology results in fewer deaths than occurred in WW2 battle conditions.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    Negroid cranial bone thickness is lower than that of Caucasoids and especially Mongoloids.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4976057/table/Tab3/?report=objectonly

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4976057/

    , @Colin Wright
    'It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.'


    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and 'self defense' rounds.

    ...interesting about the thicker skulls. Is that really so? They often have noticeably smaller heads to begin with, so...

    But more seriously. I can see blacks just popping off, getting high on the general pandemonium and terror they're producing, and not actually focussing on hitting their target and finishing the kill. A white's more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.
    , @John Johnson
    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)


    This is correct and the long term costs are huge and hidden from the public.

    It was probably cheaper when they only had 32s and 38 specials which didn't penetrate well and didn't hold as many bullets. Now with the high cap 9mms it is much easier for them to end up paralyzed or have complications from organ damage.

    If the politicians were honest they would crack down on gun possession in the ghetto. But they of course don't want to do this since it would put even more Blacks in the prisons. It would however save billions if we could reduce Black violence by even 20 or 30%.
  60. @Cowtown Rebel
    Didn't anyone get the Pat Priest joke? I guess I'm showing my age. But, yeah, I remember when N.W.A. was inducted. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has always been commercial and P.C.

    I saw Judas Priest on their Defenders of The Faith tour, and they played four or five encores. They are, perhaps, the only band I've seen that played everything I wanted to hear. The most surprising thing to me was when they asked the audience what they wanted to hear? I yelled, "The Ripper" and although other songs were loudly suggested, it was the classic, "The Ripper," that they launched into. We, my friends and I, always wanted to believe that Halford wasn't a Homo, but then he came out and announced what we all had already suspected, and I haven't been able to listen to them with same level of enthusiasm since.

    https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7326464/ice-cube-gene-simmons-nwa-rock-hall-speech

    I did indeed get the Pat Priest reference, equally dating myself.

    I’ll let the others investigate should they be interested…

  61. @John12755
    Jim in Jersey
    Your first sentence us correct. Your second is false. A bullet, being far heavier than a penny, has much more momentum, and it can kill you.

    I’d have to disagree.

    Falling under its own power, air friction slowing it further… I would doubt it would even penetrate skin. Maybe a bruise but I can’t see any more than that.

    Maybe once you get into .50 caliber, 20mm….

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    .30 caliber rifle rounds are certainly dangerous as they come down both heavy and fast, but little 9mm bullets tumbling back down travel slowly and will likely do no serious damage.  Not that I'd want that un-serious damage, but a bicycle helmet and shoulder pads would be all the protection you'd need.
    , @AR in Illinois
    Velocity is everything. Even a tumbling bullet under high velocity can do terrible damage. I agree with what was said about the angle, bullets shot over a certain angle lose that critical velocity. Like you implied, though, I also believe the heavier projectiles retain more energy.
  62. @Jim in Jersey
    I’d have to disagree.

    Falling under its own power, air friction slowing it further... I would doubt it would even penetrate skin. Maybe a bruise but I can’t see any more than that.

    Maybe once you get into .50 caliber, 20mm....

    .30 caliber rifle rounds are certainly dangerous as they come down both heavy and fast, but little 9mm bullets tumbling back down travel slowly and will likely do no serious damage.  Not that I’d want that un-serious damage, but a bicycle helmet and shoulder pads would be all the protection you’d need.

  63. @Trevor
    "Their marksmanship really is appalling"

    It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.

    Unless directly hit in the heart or a major artery causing immediate bleed-out, they will probably make it to the hospital.

    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)

    It is the same reason there are fewer combat deaths. Quick access to medical facilities from the battlefield and modern technology results in fewer deaths than occurred in WW2 battle conditions.

    Negroid cranial bone thickness is lower than that of Caucasoids and especially Mongoloids.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4976057/table/Tab3/?report=objectonly

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4976057/

  64. @Trevor
    "Their marksmanship really is appalling"

    It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.

    Unless directly hit in the heart or a major artery causing immediate bleed-out, they will probably make it to the hospital.

    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)

    It is the same reason there are fewer combat deaths. Quick access to medical facilities from the battlefield and modern technology results in fewer deaths than occurred in WW2 battle conditions.

    ‘It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.’

    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and ‘self defense’ rounds.

    …interesting about the thicker skulls. Is that really so? They often have noticeably smaller heads to begin with, so…

    But more seriously. I can see blacks just popping off, getting high on the general pandemonium and terror they’re producing, and not actually focussing on hitting their target and finishing the kill. A white’s more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Another reason for a mass shooting is revenge. A shooter thinks that he was wronged or a homie was, so he attempts to shoot the individual who wronged him or one of his homies.
    , @John Johnson
    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and ‘self defense’ rounds.

    This is true but the real difference is that the cheap ammo is full metal jacket.

    If Negroes started using quality self defense ammo their homicide rate would easily triple. The hollow point ammo is a lot more advanced even compared to 10 years ago. A single limb hit from a quality hollow point can be devastating.

    A white’s more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    This is correct and partly why the White mass shootings are so deadly. The other reason is that Whites will do their research. The recent Texas shooter picked a pretty esoteric bullet and even wrote about why he selected it. I really hate these incel shooters and their lousy dads for letting them get to that stage. There was an attempted mass shooting not far from me and I was sick about it for weeks.
    , @Female in FL
    Anyone who takes xrays for a living will tell you they have to ramp up the machine to find a brain in their coconut heads.
    , @AR in Illinois
    I know someone that does X-ray, CT and MRI.....they DO have thicker skulls
  65. @John12755
    Jim in Jersey
    Your first sentence us correct. Your second is false. A bullet, being far heavier than a penny, has much more momentum, and it can kill you.

    Penny weighs about 126 grains —-9mm bullet weight usually between 124 -150 grains—-not that much difference—gee you could look it up!

    • Replies: @Trevor
    Reply To: Colin Wright


    Bone density by race:

    https://depts.washington.edu/bonebio/bonAbout/race.html

    Also, skull thickness increases rapidly during the first two decades of life. The troll deceptively provided a table of "sub-adults" (juveniles) that may not be relevant and another link that did not make much sense, basically saying it's ambiguous.


    Here are 100 facts about differences between blacks and whites. It is overall very interesting and informative.

    But note Fact #24 in re this discussion.

    http://yun.complife.info/100facts.htm

    , @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Penny weighs about 126 grains —-9mm bullet weight usually between 124 -150 grains—-not that much difference—gee you could look it up!
     
    You have to consider sectional density.
  66. @Colin Wright
    'It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.'


    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and 'self defense' rounds.

    ...interesting about the thicker skulls. Is that really so? They often have noticeably smaller heads to begin with, so...

    But more seriously. I can see blacks just popping off, getting high on the general pandemonium and terror they're producing, and not actually focussing on hitting their target and finishing the kill. A white's more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    Another reason for a mass shooting is revenge. A shooter thinks that he was wronged or a homie was, so he attempts to shoot the individual who wronged him or one of his homies.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'Another reason for a mass shooting is revenge. A shooter thinks that he was wronged or a homie was, so he attempts to shoot the individual who wronged him or one of his homies.'

    If so, then one would assume they would generate a reasonable percentage of fatalities -- they'd at least kill who they were aiming at.

    But apparently they don't. So various hypotheses suggest themselves.

    It's all out of idle interest. Of course in a sane universe blacks wouldn't be allowed to possess guns.

    That's insane.
  67. “…interesting about the thicker skulls. Is that really so? They often have noticeably smaller heads to begin with, so…”

    Yes, that is what I have read. Blue Juice, a Chicago police officer who comments here, has also mentioned it. Maybe he will weigh in?

    Here is a picture of a typical pure Bantu Kenyan from a recent news article. You have probably seen the news pictures of them on the boats.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2019/07/24/dallas-da-seeks-death-penalty-serial-killer-suspect-billy-chemirmir/

    Their skulls are small as you observed, round, and thick as well as hard so the actual brain size is even less than what the skull size would suggest. Even a head shot that penetrates may not kill unless the brain stem is hit. The pure Africans have average IQs of only about 65-75 so there is not much in there.

  68. A 126 grain rock or bullet falling from the sky is not going to kill you. You will probably get a welt but it isn’t going to penetrate your skull.

    The problem is that it is difficult to shoot straight up. When you see Arabs or Blacks firing into the air it is closer to a 45′ angle. Well that is more like artillery where the projectile slows but does not stop at the peak of the arc and then starts accelerating again.

    But of course it isn’t practical for Democrat mayors in these areas to ask the gang bangers to please fire straight up and not at an angle. So that is why they make PSAs about why firing into the air kills people..which while technically true the lethal bullets weren’t fired straight up.

  69. @Trevor
    "Their marksmanship really is appalling"

    It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.

    Unless directly hit in the heart or a major artery causing immediate bleed-out, they will probably make it to the hospital.

    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)

    It is the same reason there are fewer combat deaths. Quick access to medical facilities from the battlefield and modern technology results in fewer deaths than occurred in WW2 battle conditions.

    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)

    This is correct and the long term costs are huge and hidden from the public.

    It was probably cheaper when they only had 32s and 38 specials which didn’t penetrate well and didn’t hold as many bullets. Now with the high cap 9mms it is much easier for them to end up paralyzed or have complications from organ damage.

    If the politicians were honest they would crack down on gun possession in the ghetto. But they of course don’t want to do this since it would put even more Blacks in the prisons. It would however save billions if we could reduce Black violence by even 20 or 30%.

    • Replies: @Dave453
    Has there ever been a larger anchor holding down a society than africans in America?
    , @Mr. Rational
    It would save billions if we replaced incarceration with terms of exile to e.g. Liberia.
  70. @Possumman
    Penny weighs about 126 grains ----9mm bullet weight usually between 124 -150 grains----not that much difference---gee you could look it up!

    Reply To: Colin Wright

    Bone density by race:

    https://depts.washington.edu/bonebio/bonAbout/race.html

    Also, skull thickness increases rapidly during the first two decades of life. The troll deceptively provided a table of “sub-adults” (juveniles) that may not be relevant and another link that did not make much sense, basically saying it’s ambiguous.

    Here are 100 facts about differences between blacks and whites. It is overall very interesting and informative.

    But note Fact #24 in re this discussion.

    http://yun.complife.info/100facts.htm

  71. @Colin Wright
    'It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.'


    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and 'self defense' rounds.

    ...interesting about the thicker skulls. Is that really so? They often have noticeably smaller heads to begin with, so...

    But more seriously. I can see blacks just popping off, getting high on the general pandemonium and terror they're producing, and not actually focussing on hitting their target and finishing the kill. A white's more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and ‘self defense’ rounds.

    This is true but the real difference is that the cheap ammo is full metal jacket.

    If Negroes started using quality self defense ammo their homicide rate would easily triple. The hollow point ammo is a lot more advanced even compared to 10 years ago. A single limb hit from a quality hollow point can be devastating.

    A white’s more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    This is correct and partly why the White mass shootings are so deadly. The other reason is that Whites will do their research. The recent Texas shooter picked a pretty esoteric bullet and even wrote about why he selected it. I really hate these incel shooters and their lousy dads for letting them get to that stage. There was an attempted mass shooting not far from me and I was sick about it for weeks.

    • Replies: @AR in Illinois
    Ref the bullet type used. We used to get guns off of these mopes and most of the semi-autos contained what we would call the "ghetto load". In a magazine there would be usually be AT LEAST two different types/brands of bullets. I remember having one with around 5 different bullets out of around 15. This is because most of the "crime guns" aren't obtained legally nor is their ammunition. Theft and burglary is the common method of appropriation in the hood.
  72. @Colin Wright
    'It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.'


    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and 'self defense' rounds.

    ...interesting about the thicker skulls. Is that really so? They often have noticeably smaller heads to begin with, so...

    But more seriously. I can see blacks just popping off, getting high on the general pandemonium and terror they're producing, and not actually focussing on hitting their target and finishing the kill. A white's more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    Anyone who takes xrays for a living will tell you they have to ramp up the machine to find a brain in their coconut heads.

    • LOL: WSG, Augustus
  73. @Lancelot Link
    "The RRHOF Foundation was established in 1983 by Ahmet Ertegun, who assembled a team that included Rolling Stone publisher Jann S. Wenner, record executives Seymour Stein, Bob Krasnow, and Noreen Woods, and attorneys Allen Grubman and Suzan Evans."

    - From a wiki page

    Sounds pretty (((Hollywood))) to me.

    Rolling Stone magazine …about as libtarded as it gets

  74. @Colin Wright
    'It is not just the marksmanship.

    Negroes have very thick skulls. Handgun (low-velocity) bullets often fail to penetrate or glance off.'


    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and 'self defense' rounds.

    ...interesting about the thicker skulls. Is that really so? They often have noticeably smaller heads to begin with, so...

    But more seriously. I can see blacks just popping off, getting high on the general pandemonium and terror they're producing, and not actually focussing on hitting their target and finishing the kill. A white's more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    I know someone that does X-ray, CT and MRI…..they DO have thicker skulls

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'I know someone that does X-ray, CT and MRI…..they DO have thicker skulls'

    I'm not surprised. Humans really pushed the envelope to get bigger brains when they needed a higher IQ to deal with a non-tropical environment: thinking of sewing clothing, saving food for winter, etc.

    That, of course, is why child birth is so traumatic for human beings -- getting that big ol' head out of the womb. Naturally, making the skull wall thinner would make that a little more feasible.

    So going to the physiological limit is an adaption whites and Asians found evolutionarily beneficial. Anything for that extra thirty points of IQ.

    Blacks never had to go to that extreme. So...smaller heads and thicker skulls. If intelligence isn't critical, those confer greater advantages than more IQ. Easier childbirths and fewer skull fractures.
  75. @Jim in Jersey
    I’d have to disagree.

    Falling under its own power, air friction slowing it further... I would doubt it would even penetrate skin. Maybe a bruise but I can’t see any more than that.

    Maybe once you get into .50 caliber, 20mm....

    Velocity is everything. Even a tumbling bullet under high velocity can do terrible damage. I agree with what was said about the angle, bullets shot over a certain angle lose that critical velocity. Like you implied, though, I also believe the heavier projectiles retain more energy.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    I agree. Speed kills. That's why a small bullet like a 5.56 is so deadly. It may be small, but travels at 2800 to 3150 fps or so. That speed opens a wound channel not seen in larger, but slower handgun rounds.
  76. Love Street———-Along with never mentioning the word BLACK, a new local trend media trend is to just use initials. A.W. Littlejohn just sounds more politically correct than Ant’won Willie Littlejohn.

  77. Probably what happened in that night club was that when the bouncer saw that someone pulled out a gun the bouncer yelled out ” Get Down” and everyone started dancing and booging to the music. If they had just gotten down on the ground then less people would have been hit by gunfire.

  78. @AR in Illinois
    I know someone that does X-ray, CT and MRI.....they DO have thicker skulls

    ‘I know someone that does X-ray, CT and MRI…..they DO have thicker skulls’

    I’m not surprised. Humans really pushed the envelope to get bigger brains when they needed a higher IQ to deal with a non-tropical environment: thinking of sewing clothing, saving food for winter, etc.

    That, of course, is why child birth is so traumatic for human beings — getting that big ol’ head out of the womb. Naturally, making the skull wall thinner would make that a little more feasible.

    So going to the physiological limit is an adaption whites and Asians found evolutionarily beneficial. Anything for that extra thirty points of IQ.

    Blacks never had to go to that extreme. So…smaller heads and thicker skulls. If intelligence isn’t critical, those confer greater advantages than more IQ. Easier childbirths and fewer skull fractures.

    • Agree: Trevor
  79. @John Johnson
    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)


    This is correct and the long term costs are huge and hidden from the public.

    It was probably cheaper when they only had 32s and 38 specials which didn't penetrate well and didn't hold as many bullets. Now with the high cap 9mms it is much easier for them to end up paralyzed or have complications from organ damage.

    If the politicians were honest they would crack down on gun possession in the ghetto. But they of course don't want to do this since it would put even more Blacks in the prisons. It would however save billions if we could reduce Black violence by even 20 or 30%.

    Has there ever been a larger anchor holding down a society than africans in America?

    • Agree: CDebussey
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Has there ever been a larger anchor holding down a society than africans in America?
     
    You can see much worse society-wide effects from cousin marriage in Islamic societies, but in the New World... no, there hasn't.
    , @AnalogMan
    Africans in South Africa. Or Rhodesia. Or ....
  80. @John Johnson
    If they make it to the hospital, modern medical technology will save most of them.
    (At significant cost to hospitals, paying patients, and taxpayers. Negroes get free treatment because they dont pay bills or have insurance so WT pays.)


    This is correct and the long term costs are huge and hidden from the public.

    It was probably cheaper when they only had 32s and 38 specials which didn't penetrate well and didn't hold as many bullets. Now with the high cap 9mms it is much easier for them to end up paralyzed or have complications from organ damage.

    If the politicians were honest they would crack down on gun possession in the ghetto. But they of course don't want to do this since it would put even more Blacks in the prisons. It would however save billions if we could reduce Black violence by even 20 or 30%.

    It would save billions if we replaced incarceration with terms of exile to e.g. Liberia.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, Augustus
  81. @Dave453
    Has there ever been a larger anchor holding down a society than africans in America?

    Has there ever been a larger anchor holding down a society than africans in America?

    You can see much worse society-wide effects from cousin marriage in Islamic societies, but in the New World… no, there hasn’t.

  82. @Possumman
    Penny weighs about 126 grains ----9mm bullet weight usually between 124 -150 grains----not that much difference---gee you could look it up!

    Penny weighs about 126 grains —-9mm bullet weight usually between 124 -150 grains—-not that much difference—gee you could look it up!

    You have to consider sectional density.

  83. @AR in Illinois
    Velocity is everything. Even a tumbling bullet under high velocity can do terrible damage. I agree with what was said about the angle, bullets shot over a certain angle lose that critical velocity. Like you implied, though, I also believe the heavier projectiles retain more energy.

    I agree. Speed kills. That’s why a small bullet like a 5.56 is so deadly. It may be small, but travels at 2800 to 3150 fps or so. That speed opens a wound channel not seen in larger, but slower handgun rounds.

  84. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    Another reason for a mass shooting is revenge. A shooter thinks that he was wronged or a homie was, so he attempts to shoot the individual who wronged him or one of his homies.

    ‘Another reason for a mass shooting is revenge. A shooter thinks that he was wronged or a homie was, so he attempts to shoot the individual who wronged him or one of his homies.’

    If so, then one would assume they would generate a reasonable percentage of fatalities — they’d at least kill who they were aiming at.

    But apparently they don’t. So various hypotheses suggest themselves.

    It’s all out of idle interest. Of course in a sane universe blacks wouldn’t be allowed to possess guns.

    That’s insane.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    Think about it.

    Do urban blacks put time in at the local range? Take lessons from professional instructors? Firearm safety courses? Fire 50-100 rounds at targets? Then do that again a week or two later?

    That may be why a professional athlete with a promising future would carry a pistol in the elastic waist band of his sweat pants, when out night clubbing after a big win. Dude could make circus catches in the big game, but could not carry a firearm safely.

    A top city cop, who is black, demonstrates cleaning his service pistol at the kitchen table to impress some friends and shoots his wife.

    , @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    It’s all out of idle interest. Of course in a sane universe blacks wouldn’t be allowed to possess guns.
     
    The negro idles away his day doing all sorts of things that are antithetical to the good of society. It's what they do. In a same universe, any black who looks at a gun longingly would receive a sentence of transportation.
  85. @Jim in Jersey
    I was kind just making fun but once a projectile loses its energy and falls back to earth, isn’t it just like being dropped from a height?

    This is more akin to dropping a penny off the Empire State Building... already proven to be a non issue. A bullet-sized object, gravity being the only force acting upon it, just doesn’t have enough mass to inflict lethal damage.

    The trouble comes when they DON‘T shoot straight up and the bullet never expends all its energy and inadvertently strikes someone a mile away.

    I was talking in ball-park terms. If you fire a bullet straight up, it slows, stops, and comes down again. Now, I’m no physicist, and I may be using these terms (force, energy, momentum etc) incorrectly, but bear with me.

    The bullet loses force under the influences of gravity, and friction with the air. When it runs out of steam, it stops and starts downward. Its downward journey is propelled by the same gravity that slowed its ascent, and slowed by friction with the air. So, yes, I would expect it to land with the same force that propelled it upward – less the amount lost to friction. Quite enough to kill.

    When I lived in South Africa, about 1970, there was a case a couple of miles from where I lived, in an area of agricultural smallholdings west of Johannesburg. Low density housing. A couple came home from a New Year’s party to find their 11-year-old daughter dead in her bed, shot through the head.

    The shooter heard about it on the news, and gave himself up to the police a few days later. They were already calculating the bullet’s trajectory from the hole in the roof; they’d have caught him eventually. I’m sure he was devastated. Like many here, he never considered what would happen when that bullet fell. There were few houses around, practically no chance of hitting anyone, and he probably naively expected the bullet would flutter to the ground like a snowflake.

    He was wrong.

    There were reports from America last July of a child killed by a falling bullet. Whether it fell absolutely vertically (obviously it didn’t, else the shooter would be right there) or not, makes no difference to the child or his parents. It was a bloody stupid thing to do. Don’t do it.

  86. @Colin Wright
    'Another reason for a mass shooting is revenge. A shooter thinks that he was wronged or a homie was, so he attempts to shoot the individual who wronged him or one of his homies.'

    If so, then one would assume they would generate a reasonable percentage of fatalities -- they'd at least kill who they were aiming at.

    But apparently they don't. So various hypotheses suggest themselves.

    It's all out of idle interest. Of course in a sane universe blacks wouldn't be allowed to possess guns.

    That's insane.

    Think about it.

    Do urban blacks put time in at the local range? Take lessons from professional instructors? Firearm safety courses? Fire 50-100 rounds at targets? Then do that again a week or two later?

    That may be why a professional athlete with a promising future would carry a pistol in the elastic waist band of his sweat pants, when out night clubbing after a big win. Dude could make circus catches in the big game, but could not carry a firearm safely.

    A top city cop, who is black, demonstrates cleaning his service pistol at the kitchen table to impress some friends and shoots his wife.

  87. @Dave453
    Has there ever been a larger anchor holding down a society than africans in America?

    Africans in South Africa. Or Rhodesia. Or ….

  88. @Colin Wright
    'Another reason for a mass shooting is revenge. A shooter thinks that he was wronged or a homie was, so he attempts to shoot the individual who wronged him or one of his homies.'

    If so, then one would assume they would generate a reasonable percentage of fatalities -- they'd at least kill who they were aiming at.

    But apparently they don't. So various hypotheses suggest themselves.

    It's all out of idle interest. Of course in a sane universe blacks wouldn't be allowed to possess guns.

    That's insane.

    It’s all out of idle interest. Of course in a sane universe blacks wouldn’t be allowed to possess guns.

    The negro idles away his day doing all sorts of things that are antithetical to the good of society. It’s what they do. In a same universe, any black who looks at a gun longingly would receive a sentence of transportation.

  89. @John Johnson
    They probably also buy the cheapest ammunition they can. Those discount rounds may be fine for target practice, but they can produce a much lower muzzle velocity than the premium hunting and ‘self defense’ rounds.

    This is true but the real difference is that the cheap ammo is full metal jacket.

    If Negroes started using quality self defense ammo their homicide rate would easily triple. The hollow point ammo is a lot more advanced even compared to 10 years ago. A single limb hit from a quality hollow point can be devastating.

    A white’s more likely to jump from head shot to head shot or at least from upper torso shot to upper torso shot to upper torso shot, where a black will just be more or less engaging in an act of self expression.

    This is correct and partly why the White mass shootings are so deadly. The other reason is that Whites will do their research. The recent Texas shooter picked a pretty esoteric bullet and even wrote about why he selected it. I really hate these incel shooters and their lousy dads for letting them get to that stage. There was an attempted mass shooting not far from me and I was sick about it for weeks.

    Ref the bullet type used. We used to get guns off of these mopes and most of the semi-autos contained what we would call the “ghetto load”. In a magazine there would be usually be AT LEAST two different types/brands of bullets. I remember having one with around 5 different bullets out of around 15. This is because most of the “crime guns” aren’t obtained legally nor is their ammunition. Theft and burglary is the common method of appropriation in the hood.

  90. @ Colin Wright @ Boy the Way Glenn Miller Played

    It is taboo to talk about black crime.

    It is taboo to talk about black intelligence (or lack thereof) especially compared to whites.

    You cannot say the n-word, although all blacks say it freely and often, in all contexts and in their rap music. And blacks can even successfully use it as a justification for and defense to murder of a white who allegedly said it to them.

    Not even on AmRen. Not even indirectly by someone else. (I posted a link to a (not rap) song containing it and got censored). And probably not even on this site.

    You could not quote passages from Mark Twain’s books that contain the n-word and they are probably banned now anyway.

    And you must believe this politically correct belief that is believed by many or be ostracized:

    “Every race has an equal capacity to learn and contribute to civilization and any differences are caused by prejudice and racism. The fact that white skins are associated with civilization is merely a quirk of fortune and coincidence. Any attempt to distinguish the races is motivated by paranoia and hatred. We must prevent any investigation into the subject and work to melt society together into a receless[sic], nationless, harmonious utopia.”

    This is not a sane world/universe, and unfortunately it is not likely to be anytime soon.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  91. White people and the NRA will still get blamed for this mass shooting committed by a negro. Half the nation is so stupid when it comes to the red tape required for legally owning a gun that they think thanks to the NRA anyone can just waltz into a gun show or gun store and 15 minutes later walk out with an AR-15 or anything they choose.

    Blacks and guns don’t mix because an average 85 IQ mixed with poor impulse control leads to disastrous things.

    If you remove the negro from the American population the murder rate would drop by more than half and other violent crimes across the board would plummet. The major cities would actually be livable again.

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