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We call St. Louis “Bell Curve City” (hint: pick up a copy or two of Bell Curve City: St. Louis, Ferguson, and the Unmentionable Racial Realities That Shape Them). Why? Because so many racial truths are found in the 49 percent black/43 percent white city.

What do we mean? Well, 89 percent of homicide suspects in 2018 St. Louis were black, showcasing the color of the crime in the city.

And to start off 2020, we find out yet another of the near record setting homicides in 2019 St. Louis was black-on-white.

His name is Mark Schlemmer, a white male and father of two beautiful teenagers. He went out one Halloween night for some fun, and ended up just another victim of black homicide in Bell Curve City.

Shot. [‘I think my brain is still trying to process’ |Daughter coming to terms with loss of father shot on Wash Ave.: “I just want whoever killed my father to be taken away for a long time. I want justice for him,” said Sierra Schlemmer., KSDK.com, November 5, 2019]:

Sierra Schlemmer says her father was a happy go lucky kind of guy who loved to take pictures and was inseparable from her and her sister.

“We always took pictures. He was just a very caring person. He was a good, goof-ball kind of guy who was always the life of the party,” said Sierra.

Schlemmer says she last saw her father on October 26th when she celebrated her 18th birthday.

“He gave me a birthday present and everything. I hugged him and I told him that I loved him,” said Sierra.

She couldn’t believe what happened to her dad six days later.

Witnesses told police Mark Schlemmer first left a Halloween party at City Museum.

A short time later, Sierra said her dad, his friend and a young woman left an after-party at Europe nightclub near 15th and Washington Avenue, hopped in his friend’s car and were about to leave when a guy pulled up in a white Malibu with a gun.

Chaser. [Man charged in killing outside St. Louis nightclub is in custody in Georgia, St. Louis Post Dispatch, January 4, 2020]:

Prosecutors have charged a person in the November shooting death of a Collinsville man outside a nightclub in downtown St. Louis.

Leron Harris, 25, of the 1000 block of Andrews Drive in East St. Louis, faces charges of first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the Nov. 1 killing of Mark Schlemmer. Harris was charged Dec. 23 in St. Louis Circuit Court and was in custody Friday in Georgia in an unrelated case.

Schlemmer, 38, was fatally shot across the street from Europe, a nightclub off Washington Avenue, about 2:15 a.m. Police said he was wearing a Halloween costume and leaving a party with friends when he was shot.

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Two witnesses told police Schlemmer had stepped into the front passenger seat of a car that was about to drive off when Harris pulled up in a vehicle, tried to block the car Schlemmer was in, and fired a shot intended for someone else in the vehicle.

The bullet instead hit Schlemmer in the head, killing him. After the gunman fired the fatal shot, police said, he backed his vehicle down 15th Street and hit at least two parked cars. The gunman then ran off, leaving the damaged vehicle behind.

Police said Harris and the woman he tried to shoot had a previous relationship and he had been texting her throughout the evening.

After the shooting, Harris texted the woman and told her to throw away her phone and to report that someone had stolen the car she, Schlemmer and another person were in, according to the charges.

A witness told police the shooter wore a distinctive mask and identified the mask in a photo posted to Harris’ Instagram page, charges said.

Harris was taken into custody Nov. 15 in Marietta, Georgia, after a high-speed chase. He was in custody there Friday, but a booking photo was not available.

Harris admitted fleeing the St. Louis area because he was suspected of a homicide, according to court documents. Court records don’t indicate whether he has an attorney.

Schlemmer was a painter with two teenage daughters. His girlfriend told the Post-Dispatch in November that he dressed up like a burglar for Halloween and attended a party at the City Museum, then later went to the Europe club at 710 North 15th Street.

In addition to pending charges in Georgia for illegal gun possession, fleeing police and drug possession, Harris also has 2013 convictions in Illinois for drug possession and robbery, and a 2016 conviction for unlawful gun possession, according to court records.

Rest in peace, Mark Schlemmer. May your family find peace in knowing your killer has been found.

 
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  1. A murder that was totally preventable by keeping this animal behind bars, or exiling him.  Either option would have made it impossible for him to shoot Mr. Schlemmer.

    We need more guns and AFRICAN CONTROL!

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Mr. Rational

    Should have never been born

  2. This was a really sad story. The man was out having a bit of harmless fun and came across the scourge of the earth (a negro.) What words could comfort his two daughters now? I agree with his daughter that this slug should be put away, but I was thinking more in terms of worm food. In this day and age it surprises me that whites still think negroes are some magical animal. They think they are warm and fuzzy like a teddy bear. They think that the only reason negroes don’t make it is because of white people keeping them down.

    I say St. Louis would be one of the safest cities on earth without the benevolent negro. To think that this city is where negroes infiltrated white communities for the first time! Pretty soon it was FORCED bussing into our schools, and now it seems the government is doing away with laws because the negro cannot abide any laws. It would appear there are too many negroes being locked up!

    Finally, this white man is nothing but a footnote to anyone but his own daughters, and maybe a few race realists who give his family sympathy in their hour of need. Had a white done this to a negro, the news would be all over it. The press is now whores for the democrat party which is obviously anti-white.

    • Agree: Gunga Din, Mr McKenna
  3. Should he hang in the town square.?

    Should he be dropped slowly feet first into a slow turning wood chipper.??

    Drawing and quartering is quite effective.
    Make it a Yuuuuge advertising thing. Four trucks…Ford, Chev, Ram and Toyota.

    I dont believe in torture….Hahahahahaha

    Another beer barkeep..

  4. just another typical black

  5. In addition to pending charges in Georgia for illegal gun possession, fleeing police and drug possession, Harris also has 2013 convictions in Illinois for drug possession and robbery, and a 2016 conviction for unlawful gun possession, according to court records.

    Melanin-enhanced murderer Orc Harris was a valued city employee who kept cops’, judges’, lawyers’, and jailers’ wives farting through silk.

    State Employee Harris was kept on the streets for as long and often as possible until–oops, murder of some lowly taxpayer–upon which Harris will retire to his home prison for a few years.

  6. I am still sufficiently old fashioned to think, comment on accused should wait until conclusion of trial. Maybe America has more lax Court rules, or they don’t apply to social media. In civilised countries, there would be charges for reporting on a trial before verdict. I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    • Troll: Dave453
    • Replies: @Augustus
    @lloyd

    "Civilized countries?"
    Do you think this perp is "civilized?"

    , @Jim in Jersey
    @lloyd

    They’re called ‘opinions’ in this country. We’re allowed to have them here.

    Stay wherever you are, you seem to be bad at it.

    , @GodHelpUs
    @lloyd

    How high minded of you. Of course your way of thinking is becoming old fashioned in Europe too as a result of the third world ghettos that have been cultivated in so many of the mother cities of Western civilization.

    Law-abiding citizens now fear walking the streets of Paris and London at night just as they do in New York and Chicago. It turns out European leftists are having no better luck civilizing the savages than America's leftists have had.

    Now you will find out that "there are good ones too," will not protect you from the bad ones and you will have to make your laws as harsh as ours to keep them from raping your daughters and murdering your sons. You reap what you sow.

    , @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @lloyd


    I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.
     
    Both are God damned pieces of shit. The difference is that Soleimani went out and got a job at least once in his life.

    Replies: @By-tor

    , @lloyd
    @lloyd

    My Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago, "The whole of America is psychotic". He spent a few days in America every week as an airline steward. NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings. No hand guns. If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    Replies: @eah, @Mr McKenna, @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey, @AnalogMan

    , @Alden
    @lloyd

    Commenters aren’t newspapers TV news prosecutors jurors or defense attorneys. We are just civilians who can write anything we like about this story. As a retired probation officer I have certain opinions about crime and the demographics of crime.

    So I can’t serve on juries. But living 1,500 miles away from St Louis I can write and say anything about this crime I want.

    You do understand I and other commenters aren’t judges in the county criminal court or prospective jurors don’t you? Were we St. Louis judges we couldn’t publicize opinions. Called for jury duty we’d have to be impartial.

    But we aren’t local judges or prospective jurors.
    Innocent till proven guilty only applies to the judicial proceedings, not us.

  7. It’s dangerous to know people who know blacks. It’s dangerous to associate with blacks or even be in the vicinity of people who associate with blacks. They are like radiation – you can’t go near them.

    • Agree: Dave453
    • Replies: @Rusty nail
    @anon

    Police said Harris and the woman he tried to shoot had a previous relationship and he had been texting her throughout the evening.

    He either paid some coal burners toll, or took a bullet for a black mama. Terrible.

    , @Magic Dirt Resident
    @anon

    Yep, you should also avoid night clubs at 2am on Halloween in a black city.

  8. The description of the events is a bit confusing. So basically the black guy wanted to shoot a coal burner, but missed and hit Mr. Schlemmer instead?

    The moral of the story seems to be, avoid coal burners even as friends. Blacks are not good at aiming.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Dumbo

    The description of the events is a bit confusing. So basically the black guy wanted to shoot a coal burner, but missed and hit Mr. Schlemmer instead?

    I am actually going to guess that the target was black.

    He is going to argue to the court that it's an accident and would have just been negro shenanigans if not for bad luck.

    It sounds insane but this is how the courts operate. They are far more lenient if the victim was perceived to be part of thug life.

    It's probably not a bad defense even though it should be.

  9. I’m going to assume the victim was with a mudshark. If true, very fatal mistake.

  10. If you discover a potential mate had previously hooked up with a black, don’t walk, run away.

    • Agree: Dave453, Lancelot Link
    • Replies: @Loren
    @Female in FL

    White males w Black females are still uncommon.
    White females w BM are all too common.

    Yellow males w BF are unheard of, in my city.

  11. OT (His Name Is Mark Schlemmer Randolph Cannon: …)

    Arrest made in case of man shot while walking dog

    Russell County Sheriff Heath Taylor announced the arrest of Deondra Jones, 20, of Macon County in the Dec. 30 shooting death of 63-year-old Randolph “Randy” Cannon of Hurtsboro.

    The suspect allegedly shot Cannon several times Monday morning while the victim was walking his dog. Taylor said the shooting happened after Cannon approached Jones in his car, which was parked near the victim’s property on Shady Grove Lane.

    Taylor said Jones confessed to the crime after his arrest.

    Randolph Cannon is white, as you can hear in the first 30s oft his video –> link

    Deondra Jones, 20, of Macon County

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @eah

    In the dog walking story posted above, see how it is carefully written as to plant the idea in the readers' mind that perhaps there was a confrontation between the two before the shooting, that perhaps the white guy instigated it, rather than a black guy simply deciding to shoot a white guy for looking in his general direction.


    ...the shooting happened after Cannon approached Jones in his car...
     

    ...Deondra and the female were talking and parked when Randy walked up on them
     
    I would bet anything that the sheriff's quote was subtly altered by the writer (from "walked PAST them" to "walked UP ON them") to give this impression, as the sheriff first said the shooting was "random" which is code for "black guy killing white guy he has never seen before on sight".

    Now whatever lawyer is assigned to defend the black has received these cues on how to get him acquitted of murder--it was self defense. The white man was crazed and racist, and wanted this black guy, who was merely having a quiet conversation with his girlfriend, out of his neighborhood, so he attacked their parked car.

    Replies: @eah, @NYC Girl

    , @WSG
    @eah

    Look what just crawled out of the primordial soup. Yep...Just Like Us.™

  12. This story leaves questions into Mark Schlemmer’s culpability is his own death. Was the female ‘intended target’ with Schlemmer? It is stated that Schlemmer had a girlfriend why wasn’t she with him? Was the female ‘intended target’ black, like the shooter? Seems a little fishy.

    • Agree: AnalogMan
    • Replies: @Realist
    @Realist

    Should read: ...culpability in his own death...

    Replies: @Alden

    , @AnalogMan
    @Realist

    Very fishy.


    "Sierra said her dad, his friend and a young woman left an after-party at Europe nightclub near 15th and Washington Avenue, hopped in his friend’s car"

    "Two witnesses told police Schlemmer had stepped into the front passenger seat of a car "

    "After the gunman fired the fatal shot, police said, he backed his vehicle down 15th Street and hit at least two parked cars. The gunman then ran off, leaving the damaged vehicle behind."

    "After the shooting, Harris texted the woman and told her to throw away her phone and to report that someone had stolen the car she, Schlemmer and another person were in, "

     

    So, let me get this straight. The victim gets into the front passenger seat of his friend's car. Presumably the friend is driving. Ergo, the floozy is in the back seat. It's not stated, and seems unlikely in light of events that she is the friend's girlfriend, so presumably a pick-up.

    Then the perp comes along, shoots at the floozy, kills the victim instead, wrecks and abandons his own car. Then he gets a brainwave; he must establish an alibi. I know, he says, I'll report my car was stolen. Well, that would make some kind of sense, but instead (or maybe as well) he texts the floozy, whom he has just tried to kill, and tells her to report the car she was in, which is not her car, was stolen. When? From whom? Why?

    Seems like a bunch of not very bright, not very classy people doing unclassy things at an ungodly hour just reaped the consequences of a long series of stupid decisions.

    Replies: @Realist

  13. • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    @Milo Minderbinder

    Sadly, death by negro is listed as one of the main causes of death in NJ.

    Unarmed shopkeeper.

    I never tended shop unarmed. Never.

  14. Anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    OT (His Name Is Mark Schlemmer Randolph Cannon: ...)

    Arrest made in case of man shot while walking dog

    Russell County Sheriff Heath Taylor announced the arrest of Deondra Jones, 20, of Macon County in the Dec. 30 shooting death of 63-year-old Randolph “Randy” Cannon of Hurtsboro.

    The suspect allegedly shot Cannon several times Monday morning while the victim was walking his dog. Taylor said the shooting happened after Cannon approached Jones in his car, which was parked near the victim’s property on Shady Grove Lane.

    Taylor said Jones confessed to the crime after his arrest.
     
    Randolph Cannon is white, as you can hear in the first 30s oft his video --> link

    Deondra Jones, 20, of Macon County
    https://www.al.com/resizer/jU5PHpA9EkQZNJOOha7hmWm1Z9g=/700x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/JAPC5ICIBRFQ3HIGZPFZ4U2EBM.JPG

    Replies: @Anonymous, @WSG

    In the dog walking story posted above, see how it is carefully written as to plant the idea in the readers’ mind that perhaps there was a confrontation between the two before the shooting, that perhaps the white guy instigated it, rather than a black guy simply deciding to shoot a white guy for looking in his general direction.

    …the shooting happened after Cannon approached Jones in his car…

    …Deondra and the female were talking and parked when Randy walked up on them

    I would bet anything that the sheriff’s quote was subtly altered by the writer (from “walked PAST them” to “walked UP ON them”) to give this impression, as the sheriff first said the shooting was “random” which is code for “black guy killing white guy he has never seen before on sight”.

    Now whatever lawyer is assigned to defend the black has received these cues on how to get him acquitted of murder–it was self defense. The white man was crazed and racist, and wanted this black guy, who was merely having a quiet conversation with his girlfriend, out of his neighborhood, so he attacked their parked car.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @eah
    @Anonymous

    Now whatever lawyer is assigned to defend the black ... The white man was crazed and racist, ...

    In the current political/racial climate, this can't be discounted; lawyers are not known for having scruples -- he could go with the 'I shot him because he called me a nigger and threatened me' defense, and the dead white guy would not be there to deny it -- then it comes down to whether a jury buys the story or not -- or the threat of such a defense could result in a plea bargain to a lesser charge for a lighter sentence.

    , @NYC Girl
    @Anonymous

    Indeed. The press is notorious for altering quotes and, whenever it suits the narrative, manufacturing evidence wholesale. They then scream bloody murder when a sizable percentage of Americans today refuse to see them as the paragons of truth and justice they so smugly envision themselves to be.

  15. @Dumbo
    The description of the events is a bit confusing. So basically the black guy wanted to shoot a coal burner, but missed and hit Mr. Schlemmer instead?

    The moral of the story seems to be, avoid coal burners even as friends. Blacks are not good at aiming.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The description of the events is a bit confusing. So basically the black guy wanted to shoot a coal burner, but missed and hit Mr. Schlemmer instead?

    I am actually going to guess that the target was black.

    He is going to argue to the court that it’s an accident and would have just been negro shenanigans if not for bad luck.

    It sounds insane but this is how the courts operate. They are far more lenient if the victim was perceived to be part of thug life.

    It’s probably not a bad defense even though it should be.

  16. Anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:

    Re: dog walking murder

    I would guess the unfortunate deceased was not a realist, as he would then not have walked past two blacks parked on the side of the road who he had never seen before. Even if his urge would be to tell them to get out of the neighborhood, he would have known enough to stay away.

    No, my guess is that he came across the two blacks who, after a night of drugs, were now violently arguing with each other, and in clueless white guy fashion innocently stopped and asked if there was “anything wrong”. Then (and we’ve all seen this happen before plenty of times), the violent anger of the blacks that was just directed at each other, was instantaneously laser focused and amplified onto the white “intruder” who dared try to tell them what’s what.

    The cops are calling this a “random” murder, when it was likely entirely predictable.

  17. @Female in FL
    If you discover a potential mate had previously hooked up with a black, don’t walk, run away.

    Replies: @Loren

    White males w Black females are still uncommon.
    White females w BM are all too common.

    Yellow males w BF are unheard of, in my city.

  18. He died because she liked BBC???

    Police said Harris and the woman he tried to shoot had a previous relationship and he had been texting her throughout the evening.

    After the shooting, Harris texted the woman and told her to throw away her phone and to report that someone had stolen the car she, Schlemmer and another person were in, according to the charges.

  19. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    I see no indication in this story that Schlemmer had even known the woman who was the “intended target” before that night. For all we know, she was a friend of his male friend he was out with that night whom he had just met. In that case, especially if she was white, he wouldn’t have had any idea that she was actively being stalked by a black ex-boyfriend until the guy pulled up and killed him. While a white woman having a black ex-boyfriend may be a big red flag, and something you’d want to know about, it’s not something you ask someone when you first meet them.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Anonymous

    For all we know, she was a friend of his male friend he was out with that night whom he had just met. In that case, especially if she was white, he wouldn’t have had any idea that she was actively being stalked by a black ex-boyfriend until the guy pulled up and killed him.

    Perhaps but the guy was still going to clubs at 2AM in downtown St. Louis.

    Odds are he knew everyone involved.

  20. @lloyd
    I am still sufficiently old fashioned to think, comment on accused should wait until conclusion of trial. Maybe America has more lax Court rules, or they don't apply to social media. In civilised countries, there would be charges for reporting on a trial before verdict. I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    Replies: @Augustus, @Jim in Jersey, @GodHelpUs, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @lloyd, @Alden

    “Civilized countries?”
    Do you think this perp is “civilized?”

  21. @lloyd
    I am still sufficiently old fashioned to think, comment on accused should wait until conclusion of trial. Maybe America has more lax Court rules, or they don't apply to social media. In civilised countries, there would be charges for reporting on a trial before verdict. I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    Replies: @Augustus, @Jim in Jersey, @GodHelpUs, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @lloyd, @Alden

    They’re called ‘opinions’ in this country. We’re allowed to have them here.

    Stay wherever you are, you seem to be bad at it.

  22. @Milo Minderbinder
    And in New Jersey:

    https://www.nj.com/camden/2020/01/vigil-to-be-held-for-nj-deli-owner-stabbed-to-death.html

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey

    Sadly, death by negro is listed as one of the main causes of death in NJ.

    Unarmed shopkeeper.

    I never tended shop unarmed. Never.

  23. @eah
    OT (His Name Is Mark Schlemmer Randolph Cannon: ...)

    Arrest made in case of man shot while walking dog

    Russell County Sheriff Heath Taylor announced the arrest of Deondra Jones, 20, of Macon County in the Dec. 30 shooting death of 63-year-old Randolph “Randy” Cannon of Hurtsboro.

    The suspect allegedly shot Cannon several times Monday morning while the victim was walking his dog. Taylor said the shooting happened after Cannon approached Jones in his car, which was parked near the victim’s property on Shady Grove Lane.

    Taylor said Jones confessed to the crime after his arrest.
     
    Randolph Cannon is white, as you can hear in the first 30s oft his video --> link

    Deondra Jones, 20, of Macon County
    https://www.al.com/resizer/jU5PHpA9EkQZNJOOha7hmWm1Z9g=/700x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/JAPC5ICIBRFQ3HIGZPFZ4U2EBM.JPG

    Replies: @Anonymous, @WSG

    Look what just crawled out of the primordial soup. Yep…Just Like Us.™

  24. @lloyd
    I am still sufficiently old fashioned to think, comment on accused should wait until conclusion of trial. Maybe America has more lax Court rules, or they don't apply to social media. In civilised countries, there would be charges for reporting on a trial before verdict. I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    Replies: @Augustus, @Jim in Jersey, @GodHelpUs, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @lloyd, @Alden

    How high minded of you. Of course your way of thinking is becoming old fashioned in Europe too as a result of the third world ghettos that have been cultivated in so many of the mother cities of Western civilization.

    Law-abiding citizens now fear walking the streets of Paris and London at night just as they do in New York and Chicago. It turns out European leftists are having no better luck civilizing the savages than America’s leftists have had.

    Now you will find out that “there are good ones too,” will not protect you from the bad ones and you will have to make your laws as harsh as ours to keep them from raping your daughters and murdering your sons. You reap what you sow.

  25. The female intended victim was either black or a white woman who had relations with blacks, both are the types of women any decent person should avoid.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    @IstvanIN


    The female intended victim was either black or a white woman
     
    Really? She couldn’t have been Asian? No possibility she was Hispanic? Or Indian?

    Some people are jumping to conclusions but you’re pole vaulting.
  26. It is now especially dangerous to be out late in night because of Negroes. That is when they come out to take over the streets. I rarely go out at night other than to very safe and specific locations that I know they don’t frequent.

    • Replies: @Loren
    @HT

    no such place......no sundown towns.

    also..there is a lesson here about 'vetting' friends.

    Replies: @HT

  27. @Anonymous
    I see no indication in this story that Schlemmer had even known the woman who was the "intended target" before that night. For all we know, she was a friend of his male friend he was out with that night whom he had just met. In that case, especially if she was white, he wouldn't have had any idea that she was actively being stalked by a black ex-boyfriend until the guy pulled up and killed him. While a white woman having a black ex-boyfriend may be a big red flag, and something you'd want to know about, it's not something you ask someone when you first meet them.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    For all we know, she was a friend of his male friend he was out with that night whom he had just met. In that case, especially if she was white, he wouldn’t have had any idea that she was actively being stalked by a black ex-boyfriend until the guy pulled up and killed him.

    Perhaps but the guy was still going to clubs at 2AM in downtown St. Louis.

    Odds are he knew everyone involved.

  28. @anon
    It's dangerous to know people who know blacks. It's dangerous to associate with blacks or even be in the vicinity of people who associate with blacks. They are like radiation - you can't go near them.

    Replies: @Rusty nail, @Magic Dirt Resident

    Police said Harris and the woman he tried to shoot had a previous relationship and he had been texting her throughout the evening.

    He either paid some coal burners toll, or took a bullet for a black mama. Terrible.

  29. @Realist
    This story leaves questions into Mark Schlemmer's culpability is his own death. Was the female 'intended target' with Schlemmer? It is stated that Schlemmer had a girlfriend why wasn't she with him? Was the female 'intended target' black, like the shooter? Seems a little fishy.

    Replies: @Realist, @AnalogMan

    Should read: …culpability in his own death…

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Realist

    Blame the victim for being out at night. Whites have as much right to be out and about as blacks do. Even more because we’re the taxpayers.

    Replies: @Realist

  30. @lloyd
    I am still sufficiently old fashioned to think, comment on accused should wait until conclusion of trial. Maybe America has more lax Court rules, or they don't apply to social media. In civilised countries, there would be charges for reporting on a trial before verdict. I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    Replies: @Augustus, @Jim in Jersey, @GodHelpUs, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @lloyd, @Alden

    I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    Both are God damned pieces of shit. The difference is that Soleimani went out and got a job at least once in his life.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001061077959422-iraq-mediation-efforts-tehran-riyadh-talks/

    Hence the outrage by the Iraqis that the US used neutral territory to lure and use a robot to murder someone who was not in a military role at the time. Soleimani arrived in Baghdad on a commercial flight. The US deliberately set up Soleimani just as the Saudis lured and then dismembered NYT reporter Jamal Khashoggi. PoS is a term reserved for psychopaths and cold-blooded murderers.

  31. A lot of folks seem to be treating this like there was some fault on the part of the victim here.

    There’s no proximity alarm that alerts you if someone in your vicinity had previously dated a negro.

    Admit that we know nothing about this situation yet and hold off on looking foolish later. Was she black? Was she white? Was he aware of her crazy black boyfriend? Was he actually dating her too?

    Pause. Take a breath. He’s dead. That won’t change. Wait till the other parties are identified and we know a little more before taking sides.

    If we’ve all learned anything about these sorts of cases, full information is almost never available and imagination is a poor substitute for fact.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Jim in Jersey

    "A lot of folks seem to be treating this like there was some fault on the part of the victim here."

    Standard procedure by many posters on this site.

    , @Alden
    @Jim in Jersey

    Most of the men of UNZ blame the victims of crime. Maybe they’re not White men but the obese black mammas of black thugs.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey

  32. @IstvanIN
    The female intended victim was either black or a white woman who had relations with blacks, both are the types of women any decent person should avoid.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey

    The female intended victim was either black or a white woman

    Really? She couldn’t have been Asian? No possibility she was Hispanic? Or Indian?

    Some people are jumping to conclusions but you’re pole vaulting.

    • Disagree: Charon
  33. Im very interested in seeing a picture of the woman.
    If she is white, then shes dumb for messing with the bros. If mr. Schlemmer knew about this, he should’ve avoided her. Perhaps he didnt know.
    Maybe shes black..

  34. Also, daughters look smoking hot. I hope they have brains to match and learn from this.

  35. @lloyd
    I am still sufficiently old fashioned to think, comment on accused should wait until conclusion of trial. Maybe America has more lax Court rules, or they don't apply to social media. In civilised countries, there would be charges for reporting on a trial before verdict. I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    Replies: @Augustus, @Jim in Jersey, @GodHelpUs, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @lloyd, @Alden

    My Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago, “The whole of America is psychotic”. He spent a few days in America every week as an airline steward. NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings. No hand guns. If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn’t have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    • Troll: Dave453
    • Replies: @eah
    @lloyd

    “The whole of America is psychotic”.

    No one cares what your "Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago" -- the apocryphal 'When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns' is more meaningful to Americans today.

    Americans want to keep their 2nd Amendment right to own weapons because 1) we don't trust the government and therefore don't want the government to have a monopoly on weapons; 2) police cannot protect you.

    A particular, small demographic is responsible for a significant majority of gun crime in the US -- do them a favor, and tell your Kiwi friends not to import this same demographic.

    More People Use a Gun in Self-Defense Each Year Than Die in Car Accidents

    , @Mr McKenna
    @lloyd


    If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn’t have been a shooting. Very simple really.
     
    Thanks, genius. Tessa Majors's corpse isn't even cold yet. Meanwhile the lefties in this country aim to take guns away, all right--from white people. You're not helping.
    , @Mr. Rational
    @lloyd


    NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings.
     
    So no self-defense shootings of assailants, meaning perps have far greater impunity.

    I'll take the USA, TYVM.
    , @Jim in Jersey
    @lloyd

    What a foolish statement. If there was no gun there would be no shooting.

    But you state NZ is just as dangerous without guns.

    So by your logic, this man would be just as dead, just not shot.

    So cause of death matters? You’re more content if he was beaten to death with a rock?

    , @AnalogMan
    @lloyd

    I think the word you were looking for is "simplistic".

    I live in NZ, but have never lived in America - previously South Africa. Still, I very much doubt that NZ is as violent as America, just by virtue of the fact that we have very few Babuntus in this country. Believe me, you have no idea.

  36. @HT
    It is now especially dangerous to be out late in night because of Negroes. That is when they come out to take over the streets. I rarely go out at night other than to very safe and specific locations that I know they don't frequent.

    Replies: @Loren

    no such place……no sundown towns.

    also..there is a lesson here about ‘vetting’ friends.

    • Replies: @HT
    @Loren

    It is all about situational awareness and knowing the areas you go. In my city, I can deal with it because I know where the risks are high and low. I also know what attracts the Negros and I avoid those places.

    Replies: @Loren

  37. @lloyd
    @lloyd

    My Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago, "The whole of America is psychotic". He spent a few days in America every week as an airline steward. NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings. No hand guns. If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    Replies: @eah, @Mr McKenna, @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey, @AnalogMan

    “The whole of America is psychotic”.

    No one cares what your “Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago” — the apocryphal ‘When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns’ is more meaningful to Americans today.

    Americans want to keep their 2nd Amendment right to own weapons because 1) we don’t trust the government and therefore don’t want the government to have a monopoly on weapons; 2) police cannot protect you.

    A particular, small demographic is responsible for a significant majority of gun crime in the US — do them a favor, and tell your Kiwi friends not to import this same demographic.

    More People Use a Gun in Self-Defense Each Year Than Die in Car Accidents

  38. @Anonymous
    @eah

    In the dog walking story posted above, see how it is carefully written as to plant the idea in the readers' mind that perhaps there was a confrontation between the two before the shooting, that perhaps the white guy instigated it, rather than a black guy simply deciding to shoot a white guy for looking in his general direction.


    ...the shooting happened after Cannon approached Jones in his car...
     

    ...Deondra and the female were talking and parked when Randy walked up on them
     
    I would bet anything that the sheriff's quote was subtly altered by the writer (from "walked PAST them" to "walked UP ON them") to give this impression, as the sheriff first said the shooting was "random" which is code for "black guy killing white guy he has never seen before on sight".

    Now whatever lawyer is assigned to defend the black has received these cues on how to get him acquitted of murder--it was self defense. The white man was crazed and racist, and wanted this black guy, who was merely having a quiet conversation with his girlfriend, out of his neighborhood, so he attacked their parked car.

    Replies: @eah, @NYC Girl

    Now whatever lawyer is assigned to defend the black … The white man was crazed and racist, …

    In the current political/racial climate, this can’t be discounted; lawyers are not known for having scruples — he could go with the ‘I shot him because he called me a nigger and threatened me’ defense, and the dead white guy would not be there to deny it — then it comes down to whether a jury buys the story or not — or the threat of such a defense could result in a plea bargain to a lesser charge for a lighter sentence.

  39. OT

    Police: Man killed grandmother in her home because he was unhappy with car purchase

    Police have arrested and charged a Bowie man, 23-year-old Sammie Warren, for allegedly firing multiple shots through a window and killing a grandmother in her own kitchen on New Year’s Day.

    Filomena Vasquez, 56, was shot to death at about 11:30 p.m., January 1, in her home on Varnum Street in Landover Hills while she was making tea, police say.

    Vasquez’s 21-year-old son sold a car to the suspect on Christmas Eve, Chief Hank Stawinski announced during a Monday afternoon press conference. He was apparently unhappy with the purchase, and returned to the home in the early morning hours of New Year’s Day, firing shots into the front of the house.

    • Replies: @Love Street
    @eah

    Well? That’s what anyone would do .
    Nope , TNB

    , @eah
    @eah

    OT

    Dyheam Williams arrested for the stabbing murder of Shamrock South Jersey deli owner, Jerome Pastore – after chasing suspect stealing employee tip jar.


    A New Jersey teenager has been charged with murdering a South Jersey deli owner — who he’d chased out of the store for allegedly stealing a tip jar according to cops.

    Jerome Pastore, 57, was found stabbed multiple times across the street from his Shamrock Delicatessen in Audubon at about 5 p.m. Friday, according to the Camden County Prosecutor’s Office.

    Sources told NBC 10 that just before his death, the father of five had run after Dyheam Williams, 18, who tried to steal an employee tip jar from the deli.
     
    Suspect (L) and victim (R)
    https://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dyheam-Williams.jpeg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Loren

  40. @lloyd
    @lloyd

    My Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago, "The whole of America is psychotic". He spent a few days in America every week as an airline steward. NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings. No hand guns. If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    Replies: @eah, @Mr McKenna, @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey, @AnalogMan

    If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn’t have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    Thanks, genius. Tessa Majors’s corpse isn’t even cold yet. Meanwhile the lefties in this country aim to take guns away, all right–from white people. You’re not helping.

    • Agree: Augustus
  41. @lloyd
    @lloyd

    My Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago, "The whole of America is psychotic". He spent a few days in America every week as an airline steward. NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings. No hand guns. If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    Replies: @eah, @Mr McKenna, @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey, @AnalogMan

    NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings.

    So no self-defense shootings of assailants, meaning perps have far greater impunity.

    I’ll take the USA, TYVM.

  42. @lloyd
    @lloyd

    My Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago, "The whole of America is psychotic". He spent a few days in America every week as an airline steward. NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings. No hand guns. If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    Replies: @eah, @Mr McKenna, @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey, @AnalogMan

    What a foolish statement. If there was no gun there would be no shooting.

    But you state NZ is just as dangerous without guns.

    So by your logic, this man would be just as dead, just not shot.

    So cause of death matters? You’re more content if he was beaten to death with a rock?

  43. @anon
    It's dangerous to know people who know blacks. It's dangerous to associate with blacks or even be in the vicinity of people who associate with blacks. They are like radiation - you can't go near them.

    Replies: @Rusty nail, @Magic Dirt Resident

    Yep, you should also avoid night clubs at 2am on Halloween in a black city.

  44. @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    @lloyd


    I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.
     
    Both are God damned pieces of shit. The difference is that Soleimani went out and got a job at least once in his life.

    Replies: @By-tor

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001061077959422-iraq-mediation-efforts-tehran-riyadh-talks/

    Hence the outrage by the Iraqis that the US used neutral territory to lure and use a robot to murder someone who was not in a military role at the time. Soleimani arrived in Baghdad on a commercial flight. The US deliberately set up Soleimani just as the Saudis lured and then dismembered NYT reporter Jamal Khashoggi. PoS is a term reserved for psychopaths and cold-blooded murderers.


  45. Take note of the multiple St, Louis major highways. Any location about 10 miles from a major highway is extremely safe. Not 100% but close to it. I don’t know what the correlation is between black-on-white crime and a road map of major highways, but I think it is almost 1.0.

  46. @eah
    OT

    Police: Man killed grandmother in her home because he was unhappy with car purchase

    Police have arrested and charged a Bowie man, 23-year-old Sammie Warren, for allegedly firing multiple shots through a window and killing a grandmother in her own kitchen on New Year’s Day.

    Filomena Vasquez, 56, was shot to death at about 11:30 p.m., January 1, in her home on Varnum Street in Landover Hills while she was making tea, police say.

    Vasquez's 21-year-old son sold a car to the suspect on Christmas Eve, Chief Hank Stawinski announced during a Monday afternoon press conference. He was apparently unhappy with the purchase, and returned to the home in the early morning hours of New Year's Day, firing shots into the front of the house.
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENn9ELjWsAUHhn1.jpg

    Replies: @Love Street, @eah

    Well? That’s what anyone would do .
    Nope , TNB

  47. @Loren
    @HT

    no such place......no sundown towns.

    also..there is a lesson here about 'vetting' friends.

    Replies: @HT

    It is all about situational awareness and knowing the areas you go. In my city, I can deal with it because I know where the risks are high and low. I also know what attracts the Negros and I avoid those places.

    • Replies: @Loren
    @HT

    avoid county fairs
    avoid free nites at [where ever]
    avoid MLK Blvds

    However situational awareness is NOT enough. anyone can be --
    fill in blank [ ]

    car jacked
    held up
    shot
    shot at

    etc

    Replies: @AR in Illinois

  48. @Realist
    This story leaves questions into Mark Schlemmer's culpability is his own death. Was the female 'intended target' with Schlemmer? It is stated that Schlemmer had a girlfriend why wasn't she with him? Was the female 'intended target' black, like the shooter? Seems a little fishy.

    Replies: @Realist, @AnalogMan

    Very fishy.

    “Sierra said her dad, his friend and a young woman left an after-party at Europe nightclub near 15th and Washington Avenue, hopped in his friend’s car”

    “Two witnesses told police Schlemmer had stepped into the front passenger seat of a car ”

    “After the gunman fired the fatal shot, police said, he backed his vehicle down 15th Street and hit at least two parked cars. The gunman then ran off, leaving the damaged vehicle behind.”

    “After the shooting, Harris texted the woman and told her to throw away her phone and to report that someone had stolen the car she, Schlemmer and another person were in, ”

    So, let me get this straight. The victim gets into the front passenger seat of his friend’s car. Presumably the friend is driving. Ergo, the floozy is in the back seat. It’s not stated, and seems unlikely in light of events that she is the friend’s girlfriend, so presumably a pick-up.

    Then the perp comes along, shoots at the floozy, kills the victim instead, wrecks and abandons his own car. Then he gets a brainwave; he must establish an alibi. I know, he says, I’ll report my car was stolen. Well, that would make some kind of sense, but instead (or maybe as well) he texts the floozy, whom he has just tried to kill, and tells her to report the car she was in, which is not her car, was stolen. When? From whom? Why?

    Seems like a bunch of not very bright, not very classy people doing unclassy things at an ungodly hour just reaped the consequences of a long series of stupid decisions.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @AnalogMan


    Seems like a bunch of not very bright, not very classy people doing unclassy things at an ungodly hour just reaped the consequences of a long series of stupid decisions.
     
    Yes, that was my point. The details are scant.
  49. @lloyd
    @lloyd

    My Kiwi landlord said twenty years ago, "The whole of America is psychotic". He spent a few days in America every week as an airline steward. NZ is just as violent as America but very few shootings. No hand guns. If the shooter had no gun, there wouldn't have been a shooting. Very simple really.

    Replies: @eah, @Mr McKenna, @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey, @AnalogMan

    I think the word you were looking for is “simplistic”.

    I live in NZ, but have never lived in America – previously South Africa. Still, I very much doubt that NZ is as violent as America, just by virtue of the fact that we have very few Babuntus in this country. Believe me, you have no idea.

  50. @AnalogMan
    @Realist

    Very fishy.


    "Sierra said her dad, his friend and a young woman left an after-party at Europe nightclub near 15th and Washington Avenue, hopped in his friend’s car"

    "Two witnesses told police Schlemmer had stepped into the front passenger seat of a car "

    "After the gunman fired the fatal shot, police said, he backed his vehicle down 15th Street and hit at least two parked cars. The gunman then ran off, leaving the damaged vehicle behind."

    "After the shooting, Harris texted the woman and told her to throw away her phone and to report that someone had stolen the car she, Schlemmer and another person were in, "

     

    So, let me get this straight. The victim gets into the front passenger seat of his friend's car. Presumably the friend is driving. Ergo, the floozy is in the back seat. It's not stated, and seems unlikely in light of events that she is the friend's girlfriend, so presumably a pick-up.

    Then the perp comes along, shoots at the floozy, kills the victim instead, wrecks and abandons his own car. Then he gets a brainwave; he must establish an alibi. I know, he says, I'll report my car was stolen. Well, that would make some kind of sense, but instead (or maybe as well) he texts the floozy, whom he has just tried to kill, and tells her to report the car she was in, which is not her car, was stolen. When? From whom? Why?

    Seems like a bunch of not very bright, not very classy people doing unclassy things at an ungodly hour just reaped the consequences of a long series of stupid decisions.

    Replies: @Realist

    Seems like a bunch of not very bright, not very classy people doing unclassy things at an ungodly hour just reaped the consequences of a long series of stupid decisions.

    Yes, that was my point. The details are scant.

  51. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    It sounds like this guy was associating with blacks, or at the very least associating with whites who associate with blacks.

    The fact he was at a nightclub in the early hours of the morning in a violent black city makes me guess he was a liberal type who didn’t fully appreciate just how dangerous being around blacks is.

    • Agree: Love Street
  52. @eah
    OT

    Police: Man killed grandmother in her home because he was unhappy with car purchase

    Police have arrested and charged a Bowie man, 23-year-old Sammie Warren, for allegedly firing multiple shots through a window and killing a grandmother in her own kitchen on New Year’s Day.

    Filomena Vasquez, 56, was shot to death at about 11:30 p.m., January 1, in her home on Varnum Street in Landover Hills while she was making tea, police say.

    Vasquez's 21-year-old son sold a car to the suspect on Christmas Eve, Chief Hank Stawinski announced during a Monday afternoon press conference. He was apparently unhappy with the purchase, and returned to the home in the early morning hours of New Year's Day, firing shots into the front of the house.
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENn9ELjWsAUHhn1.jpg

    Replies: @Love Street, @eah

    OT

    Dyheam Williams arrested for the stabbing murder of Shamrock South Jersey deli owner, Jerome Pastore – after chasing suspect stealing employee tip jar.

    A New Jersey teenager has been charged with murdering a South Jersey deli owner — who he’d chased out of the store for allegedly stealing a tip jar according to cops.

    Jerome Pastore, 57, was found stabbed multiple times across the street from his Shamrock Delicatessen in Audubon at about 5 p.m. Friday, according to the Camden County Prosecutor’s Office.

    Sources told NBC 10 that just before his death, the father of five had run after Dyheam Williams, 18, who tried to steal an employee tip jar from the deli.

    Suspect (L) and victim (R)

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @eah

    The punishment for the crime is very obvious.

    Manacles.

    Suspension by rope.

    Flogging until life signs cease.

    Broadcast of the spectacle to The Community, to put it on notice.

    Repeat until behavior ceases, with escalation on every repetition.  Start by delivering identical punishment to random objectors of any race.  Double on every act of reprisal.

    , @Loren
    @eah

    dont leave a tip jar out...

  53. @eah
    @eah

    OT

    Dyheam Williams arrested for the stabbing murder of Shamrock South Jersey deli owner, Jerome Pastore – after chasing suspect stealing employee tip jar.


    A New Jersey teenager has been charged with murdering a South Jersey deli owner — who he’d chased out of the store for allegedly stealing a tip jar according to cops.

    Jerome Pastore, 57, was found stabbed multiple times across the street from his Shamrock Delicatessen in Audubon at about 5 p.m. Friday, according to the Camden County Prosecutor’s Office.

    Sources told NBC 10 that just before his death, the father of five had run after Dyheam Williams, 18, who tried to steal an employee tip jar from the deli.
     
    Suspect (L) and victim (R)
    https://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dyheam-Williams.jpeg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Loren

    The punishment for the crime is very obvious.

    Manacles.

    Suspension by rope.

    Flogging until life signs cease.

    Broadcast of the spectacle to The Community, to put it on notice.

    Repeat until behavior ceases, with escalation on every repetition.  Start by delivering identical punishment to random objectors of any race.  Double on every act of reprisal.

  54. @eah
    @eah

    OT

    Dyheam Williams arrested for the stabbing murder of Shamrock South Jersey deli owner, Jerome Pastore – after chasing suspect stealing employee tip jar.


    A New Jersey teenager has been charged with murdering a South Jersey deli owner — who he’d chased out of the store for allegedly stealing a tip jar according to cops.

    Jerome Pastore, 57, was found stabbed multiple times across the street from his Shamrock Delicatessen in Audubon at about 5 p.m. Friday, according to the Camden County Prosecutor’s Office.

    Sources told NBC 10 that just before his death, the father of five had run after Dyheam Williams, 18, who tried to steal an employee tip jar from the deli.
     
    Suspect (L) and victim (R)
    https://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dyheam-Williams.jpeg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Loren

    dont leave a tip jar out…

  55. @HT
    @Loren

    It is all about situational awareness and knowing the areas you go. In my city, I can deal with it because I know where the risks are high and low. I also know what attracts the Negros and I avoid those places.

    Replies: @Loren

    avoid county fairs
    avoid free nites at [where ever]
    avoid MLK Blvds

    However situational awareness is NOT enough. anyone can be —
    fill in blank [ ]

    car jacked
    held up
    shot
    shot at

    etc

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @AR in Illinois
    @Loren

    So, carry, carry, carry.....EVERYWHERE!!!!

  56. @Jim in Jersey
    A lot of folks seem to be treating this like there was some fault on the part of the victim here.

    There’s no proximity alarm that alerts you if someone in your vicinity had previously dated a negro.

    Admit that we know nothing about this situation yet and hold off on looking foolish later. Was she black? Was she white? Was he aware of her crazy black boyfriend? Was he actually dating her too?

    Pause. Take a breath. He’s dead. That won’t change. Wait till the other parties are identified and we know a little more before taking sides.

    If we’ve all learned anything about these sorts of cases, full information is almost never available and imagination is a poor substitute for fact.

    Replies: @David In TN, @Alden

    “A lot of folks seem to be treating this like there was some fault on the part of the victim here.”

    Standard procedure by many posters on this site.

    • Agree: Alden
  57. @Loren
    @HT

    avoid county fairs
    avoid free nites at [where ever]
    avoid MLK Blvds

    However situational awareness is NOT enough. anyone can be --
    fill in blank [ ]

    car jacked
    held up
    shot
    shot at

    etc

    Replies: @AR in Illinois

    So, carry, carry, carry…..EVERYWHERE!!!!

    • Agree: Augustus
  58. @Anonymous
    @eah

    In the dog walking story posted above, see how it is carefully written as to plant the idea in the readers' mind that perhaps there was a confrontation between the two before the shooting, that perhaps the white guy instigated it, rather than a black guy simply deciding to shoot a white guy for looking in his general direction.


    ...the shooting happened after Cannon approached Jones in his car...
     

    ...Deondra and the female were talking and parked when Randy walked up on them
     
    I would bet anything that the sheriff's quote was subtly altered by the writer (from "walked PAST them" to "walked UP ON them") to give this impression, as the sheriff first said the shooting was "random" which is code for "black guy killing white guy he has never seen before on sight".

    Now whatever lawyer is assigned to defend the black has received these cues on how to get him acquitted of murder--it was self defense. The white man was crazed and racist, and wanted this black guy, who was merely having a quiet conversation with his girlfriend, out of his neighborhood, so he attacked their parked car.

    Replies: @eah, @NYC Girl

    Indeed. The press is notorious for altering quotes and, whenever it suits the narrative, manufacturing evidence wholesale. They then scream bloody murder when a sizable percentage of Americans today refuse to see them as the paragons of truth and justice they so smugly envision themselves to be.

  59. @Jim in Jersey
    A lot of folks seem to be treating this like there was some fault on the part of the victim here.

    There’s no proximity alarm that alerts you if someone in your vicinity had previously dated a negro.

    Admit that we know nothing about this situation yet and hold off on looking foolish later. Was she black? Was she white? Was he aware of her crazy black boyfriend? Was he actually dating her too?

    Pause. Take a breath. He’s dead. That won’t change. Wait till the other parties are identified and we know a little more before taking sides.

    If we’ve all learned anything about these sorts of cases, full information is almost never available and imagination is a poor substitute for fact.

    Replies: @David In TN, @Alden

    Most of the men of UNZ blame the victims of crime. Maybe they’re not White men but the obese black mammas of black thugs.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Alden

    Wrong.  We only blame the victims of crime when they ignored neon-bright warning signs in order to "not be racist".

    Blameworthy:  coal-burner Jessica Chambers.

    Blameless:  Antonio Angel Santiago and his mother, Christian Newsom and Shannon Christian.

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

    , @Jim in Jersey
    @Alden

    Most people here, I don’t know real genders of screen names, seem to point out foolish behavior of victims that lead to death. I think that is a natural conclusion to make.

    Just like my dad used to lecture us boys about, “if you hang around bad people, bad things happen”.

    Usually, you live to outgrow your own stupidity and harken back to times when you recognize your mistakes. Personally, I dread reading of the young ones who perish at evil hands before their epiphany.

  60. @Alden
    @Jim in Jersey

    Most of the men of UNZ blame the victims of crime. Maybe they’re not White men but the obese black mammas of black thugs.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey

    Wrong.  We only blame the victims of crime when they ignored neon-bright warning signs in order to “not be racist”.

    Blameworthy:  coal-burner Jessica Chambers.

    Blameless:  Antonio Angel Santiago and his mother, Christian Newsom and Shannon Christian.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Mr. Rational

    Christian and Shannon were out in an apartment parking lot after dark. Antonio’s mother resisted a robbery

    Some UNZ cowards would blame them. How foolish of Christian and Shannon to be out after dark going to their car in an apartment parking lot.

    What we’ve got here are perfect criminal defense jurors always ready to blame White victims of crime. Fortunately most prosecutions don’t go to trial. Faced with evidence and the long criminal record of defendant, most plead to a lesser charge and get off the streets for a while.

    , @Alden
    @Mr. Rational

    Orc Who Killed Jessica chambers killed 2 other young women. Both were total strangers. One was killed walking across her college campus.

    Orc Killed Jessica b cause she resisted sex.

    Jessica was a victim of the satanic Supreme Court judges who ordered school integration Thats how she got involved with the orcs.

    Too bad her parents didn’t have the money for private school. Preferably a boarding school a thousand miles away from darkest Mississippi.

    Sorry for being a bitch. But I’m a White Nationalist. All for one and one for all.

    A lot of White kids, boys and girls were bullied harassed and frightened into being friends with orcs because of integrated public schools.

  61. @Alden
    @Jim in Jersey

    Most of the men of UNZ blame the victims of crime. Maybe they’re not White men but the obese black mammas of black thugs.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Jim in Jersey

    Most people here, I don’t know real genders of screen names, seem to point out foolish behavior of victims that lead to death. I think that is a natural conclusion to make.

    Just like my dad used to lecture us boys about, “if you hang around bad people, bad things happen”.

    Usually, you live to outgrow your own stupidity and harken back to times when you recognize your mistakes. Personally, I dread reading of the young ones who perish at evil hands before their epiphany.

  62. @Mr. Rational
    A murder that was totally preventable by keeping this animal behind bars, or exiling him.  Either option would have made it impossible for him to shoot Mr. Schlemmer.

    We need more guns and AFRICAN CONTROL!

    Replies: @Alden

    Should have never been born

  63. @lloyd
    I am still sufficiently old fashioned to think, comment on accused should wait until conclusion of trial. Maybe America has more lax Court rules, or they don't apply to social media. In civilised countries, there would be charges for reporting on a trial before verdict. I suppose he is in the ranking of Soleimani.

    Replies: @Augustus, @Jim in Jersey, @GodHelpUs, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @lloyd, @Alden

    Commenters aren’t newspapers TV news prosecutors jurors or defense attorneys. We are just civilians who can write anything we like about this story. As a retired probation officer I have certain opinions about crime and the demographics of crime.

    So I can’t serve on juries. But living 1,500 miles away from St Louis I can write and say anything about this crime I want.

    You do understand I and other commenters aren’t judges in the county criminal court or prospective jurors don’t you? Were we St. Louis judges we couldn’t publicize opinions. Called for jury duty we’d have to be impartial.

    But we aren’t local judges or prospective jurors.
    Innocent till proven guilty only applies to the judicial proceedings, not us.

  64. @Realist
    @Realist

    Should read: ...culpability in his own death...

    Replies: @Alden

    Blame the victim for being out at night. Whites have as much right to be out and about as blacks do. Even more because we’re the taxpayers.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Alden


    If you disregard "It's pretty clear that the majority of recent warming is from human emissions. " what do you find objectionable out Mr. Stern's statements otherwise?
     
    You need to learn how to read. I made my point clear.

    And you replied to my correction.

    Replies: @Alden

  65. @Mr. Rational
    @Alden

    Wrong.  We only blame the victims of crime when they ignored neon-bright warning signs in order to "not be racist".

    Blameworthy:  coal-burner Jessica Chambers.

    Blameless:  Antonio Angel Santiago and his mother, Christian Newsom and Shannon Christian.

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

    Christian and Shannon were out in an apartment parking lot after dark. Antonio’s mother resisted a robbery

    Some UNZ cowards would blame them. How foolish of Christian and Shannon to be out after dark going to their car in an apartment parking lot.

    What we’ve got here are perfect criminal defense jurors always ready to blame White victims of crime. Fortunately most prosecutions don’t go to trial. Faced with evidence and the long criminal record of defendant, most plead to a lesser charge and get off the streets for a while.

  66. @Mr. Rational
    @Alden

    Wrong.  We only blame the victims of crime when they ignored neon-bright warning signs in order to "not be racist".

    Blameworthy:  coal-burner Jessica Chambers.

    Blameless:  Antonio Angel Santiago and his mother, Christian Newsom and Shannon Christian.

    Replies: @Alden, @Alden

    Orc Who Killed Jessica chambers killed 2 other young women. Both were total strangers. One was killed walking across her college campus.

    Orc Killed Jessica b cause she resisted sex.

    Jessica was a victim of the satanic Supreme Court judges who ordered school integration Thats how she got involved with the orcs.

    Too bad her parents didn’t have the money for private school. Preferably a boarding school a thousand miles away from darkest Mississippi.

    Sorry for being a bitch. But I’m a White Nationalist. All for one and one for all.

    A lot of White kids, boys and girls were bullied harassed and frightened into being friends with orcs because of integrated public schools.

  67. @Alden
    @Realist

    Blame the victim for being out at night. Whites have as much right to be out and about as blacks do. Even more because we’re the taxpayers.

    Replies: @Realist

    If you disregard “It’s pretty clear that the majority of recent warming is from human emissions. ” what do you find objectionable out Mr. Stern’s statements otherwise?

    You need to learn how to read. I made my point clear.

    And you replied to my correction.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Realist

    Blame the victims of black on White crime blame the victims of black on White crime blame the victim of black on White crime, the eternal mantra of the wimp nerd judgemental church lady men of UNZ

    Perfect criminal defense jurors. With that attitude about White victims of black crime you should go to work as a para legal for one of George Soros’ pro crime no imprisonment district attorneys. You can be the preliminary screening para legal.

    A detective comes to you with a good case irrefutable evidence etc. You can refuse to pass the case on to a district attorney for prosecution because the Victim hire victim should have stayed at home instead of being a victim of a black criminal.

    You blame Whites for being killed by blacks. Therefore you must really hate White people. You’re not White How can a White man excuse a black killing a White man. Traitor.

    But typical man of UNZ Blame White victims of black criminals blame White victims of black criminals repeat until no black is ever arrested and charged with murder of a White because it’s all the White’s fault,

    Well, this site is conservative, and conservatives are as anti White as liberals,

    Traitor

    Replies: @Realist

  68. @Realist
    @Alden


    If you disregard "It's pretty clear that the majority of recent warming is from human emissions. " what do you find objectionable out Mr. Stern's statements otherwise?
     
    You need to learn how to read. I made my point clear.

    And you replied to my correction.

    Replies: @Alden

    Blame the victims of black on White crime blame the victims of black on White crime blame the victim of black on White crime, the eternal mantra of the wimp nerd judgemental church lady men of UNZ

    Perfect criminal defense jurors. With that attitude about White victims of black crime you should go to work as a para legal for one of George Soros’ pro crime no imprisonment district attorneys. You can be the preliminary screening para legal.

    A detective comes to you with a good case irrefutable evidence etc. You can refuse to pass the case on to a district attorney for prosecution because the Victim hire victim should have stayed at home instead of being a victim of a black criminal.

    You blame Whites for being killed by blacks. Therefore you must really hate White people. You’re not White How can a White man excuse a black killing a White man. Traitor.

    But typical man of UNZ Blame White victims of black criminals blame White victims of black criminals repeat until no black is ever arrested and charged with murder of a White because it’s all the White’s fault,

    Well, this site is conservative, and conservatives are as anti White as liberals,

    Traitor

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Alden


    Well, this site is conservative, and conservatives are as anti White as liberals,
     
    I am not anti-White...far from it. I am against stupid Whites...those would be the Whites that allow the current situation.
    What's your solution?
  69. @Alden
    @Realist

    Blame the victims of black on White crime blame the victims of black on White crime blame the victim of black on White crime, the eternal mantra of the wimp nerd judgemental church lady men of UNZ

    Perfect criminal defense jurors. With that attitude about White victims of black crime you should go to work as a para legal for one of George Soros’ pro crime no imprisonment district attorneys. You can be the preliminary screening para legal.

    A detective comes to you with a good case irrefutable evidence etc. You can refuse to pass the case on to a district attorney for prosecution because the Victim hire victim should have stayed at home instead of being a victim of a black criminal.

    You blame Whites for being killed by blacks. Therefore you must really hate White people. You’re not White How can a White man excuse a black killing a White man. Traitor.

    But typical man of UNZ Blame White victims of black criminals blame White victims of black criminals repeat until no black is ever arrested and charged with murder of a White because it’s all the White’s fault,

    Well, this site is conservative, and conservatives are as anti White as liberals,

    Traitor

    Replies: @Realist

    Well, this site is conservative, and conservatives are as anti White as liberals,

    I am not anti-White…far from it. I am against stupid Whites…those would be the Whites that allow the current situation.
    What’s your solution?

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