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Let’s call this the “Time to Make it Illegal to Arrest Black Males” Charlottesville Edition… [Disproportionate Minority Contact Report finds racial disproportionality across all points in the local adult criminal justice system: The report was presented to Charlottesville City Council and produced recommendations on how to combat racial disproportionality and disparity in the local justice system, Caviler Daily, February 19, 2020]:

The City of Charlottesville and the County of Albemarle have completed the first phase of the Disproportionate Minority Study — a multi-disciplinary project that examined how minorities are treated within the criminal justice system — to find that black individuals are overrepresented at every point in the local criminal justice system.

Using data from 2014 to 2016, the 14-member Adult Disproportionate Minority Contact Research and Planning Committee worked with MGT Consulting, a Florida-based public sector consulting firm, to determine the extent of racial disproportionality and disparity in the local adult criminal justice system.

The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community. Racial disparity is when individuals in similar situations receive different outcomes based on race.

The study is unique in its examination of racial disparity in the criminal justice system. While there have been studies on disproportionality, very few studies of racial disparity in local justice systems have been conducted.

During the period of 2014 to 2016, 51.5 percent of those arrested in Charlottesville were black men, where black men comprise only 8.5 percent of the City’s population. In Albemarle County — a region where black men make up 4.4 percent of the population — the demographic comprised 37.6 percent of arrests.

Racial disparity was also found across five areas of contact between individuals and law enforcement. African American men were found to be more likely to have serious charges leveled against them and experience a higher number of companion charges. They had longer bail and bond release decisions, experienced a longer length of time awaiting trial and experienced more guilty outcomes at trial.

Racial disparity for black men was not found at two critical points — the duration of time served for an offense and the duration of sentence imposed.

Recommendations from the committee

The nine recommendations the Disproportionate Minority Study produced to combat racial disparity and disproportionality in the local criminal justice system include to increase and support meaningful reentry programs, increase transparency of the City and County police departments and develop, encourage and support special initiative programs.

The Committee also recommends an increase in diversity in law enforcement, the adoption of programs that are alternatives to incarceration and to provide additional training opportunities for law enforcement and other actors in the criminal justice system. Finally, it was recommended that the City and County review the best practices from other communities and increase the access to data at each decision point in the criminal justice map.

The study also recommended that additional research be conducted to build upon the findings and recommendations of the report.

ORDER IT NOW

“We appreciate the work of the team in analyzing this dataset and presenting recommendations to address the findings,” said Siri Russell, director of Albemarle’s Office of Equity and Inclusion. “That so many of the recommendations capture efforts already underway in the City and the County speaks to our renewed commitment to equitable outcomes for our community.”

The City of Charlottesville and the County of Albemarle have already undertaken strategies that address several of the recommendations made in the report. Albemarle and Charlottesville now routinely release their data to the community — such as arrest data by race — instead of waiting for requests.

The formation of a Civilian Police Review Board, a body of community representatives tasked with investigating complaints concerning police misconduct, is among the study’s recommendations.

In Charlottesville, an initial Civilian Review Board was created in 2018 and formally established in November 2019, and the City has begun interviewing candidates for a permanent board.

The only explanation for why more black males are arrested, though they make up such a small percentage of the population of Charlottesville, is obviously white racism and structural inequalities, right? It couldn’t be because they commit more crime, and thus qualify for immediate imprisonment courtesy of the taxpayer?

Poor future-time orientation and low impulse control have no place in this conversation, when white people and implicit bias within the police force can immediately be blamed for why so many black people have unfortunate interactions with the criminal justice system.

Of course, we could just blame the statues of Confederate generals or Thomas Jefferson still littering Charlottesville as being the reason why blacks disproportionately get arrested…

We move one step closer to when the state (led by masochistic white liberals) deem it illegal to arrest blacks, even for the most heinous, violent crimes.

 
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  1. as everyone knows (including blacks) the whiter the city the safer it is —

  2. Why is this disproportionality wrong? Why is that never explained? No one ever explains that to my satisfaction. How is it wrong to protect society by removing or punishing criminals? Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment? If so, why?

    • Replies: @Gunga Din
    No one has the nads to speak the truth.
    , @Mr. Rational

    Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment?
     
    Until a time in living memory, they did get special treatment.  They were kept tightly under the thumbs of White society and the police, and largely segregated so that their misbehavior mostly affected their own.  This kept the impact of their proclivities down to something manageable.

    Now it's practically a crime to recognize that those proclivities exist; it's gotta be Whitey's fault somehow.
    , @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Augustus-----Yes Blacks are a failed tribe.Yes,Blacks can't be civilized to White standards.So,yes,Blacks should be treated differently.Black attacks on Whites and White property should be dealt with harshly. However,Black on Black murders,for instance,should be reclassified as misdemeanor homicides. Crime within the Black community isn't important.No need to fill prisons. I suggest a small fine or good scolding for most Black on Black felonies.De-police Black neighborhoods.Everybody happy.
    , @Ragno
    We must cling to the (probably futile) hope that Trump, upon reelection, will take a page from the Soros/Obama playbook and bypass the usual "lame duck" approach to a second term by weaponizing the office to inflict as much damage upon his enemies as possible. As Bubba Clinton once said with a knowing wink, "Stroke o' the pen - law o' the land. Pretty cool."

    So leave us fervently hope that Pres Trump, who by now can be under no illusion about bipartisanship or the sudden appearance of Scoop Jackson's ghost, applies his hard-won knowledge (that the swamp creatures of the Nihilist Left can't deface your legacy if you break their arms and legs first) ruthlessly and liberally.

    , @Pepe the Frog
    Because everybody knows that race is a social construct. Muh paintjob theory says that if, speaking hypothetically (I don't have figures at hand), a population of Africans-in-America commits murder at a rate of seventy-five per hundred thousand per year, and a population of Whites commits murder at a rate of two per hundred thousand per year, the only possible explanation is that there are seventy-three murders being committed by violent White criminals that are being covered up and/or falsely blamed on poor misunderstood non-Whites, who are all victims, VICTIMS, willy-nilly, of a racist conspiracy.

    Everybody is exactly the same, no exceptions, and if objective reality disagrees with you when you look at the data, well, the data must be wrong, because everybody is exactly the same. This is called "systemic racism" and it's all Whitey's fault. See also, statistics for armed robbery. See also, SAT scores. See also, cranial capacity. See also, IQ scores. See also, twenty to thirty thousand black-on-White rape cases every year and zero White-on-black rape cases most years. If the statistics suggest everybody isn't the same, the statistics must be wrong, because "systemic racism." It must be a conspiracy. "Human equality is a contingent fact of history," said (((Stephen J. Gould))).

    The more I think about it, the more I think you could replace the word "racism" with the word "witchcraft" and no information would be lost, nor would the meaning of any sentence containing it be changed.
    , @Alden
    Know what I would love love love to see? A massive class action civil rights lawsuit by every man and boy who had to pay higher auto insurance because he was a man under 35.

    It’s disproportionate representation disparate impact at its most blatant.
  3. The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community. Racial disparity is when individuals in similar situations receive different outcomes based on race.

    Also:

    Racial disparity for black males was not found at two critical points — the duration of time served for an offense and the duration of sentence imposed.

    So basically, all forms of “racial disproportionality” (representation) can be straightforwardly (Occam’s Razor) explained by the fact black males commit more crime, and all forms of “racial disparity” (outcomes) by the fact black males typically commit a lot more serious, violent crime — because the study found that for the same offense, there was no difference in outcome.

    But why come to the simple, obvious conclusion, e.g. by just looking at the data you submit yearly to the FBI via the UCR, when you can inflate your own and government’s importance via a costly study at taxpayer expense?

    The city of Charlottesville is approx 19% black, i.e. about 50% higher than nationally — re violent crime, recently the Blacks there actually seem to be a little bit tamer (crime was higher in the past): the violent crime bars are not 50% taller — this site shows/says more or less the same thing –> link

    • Replies: @eah

    The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community.
     
    The "racial disproportionality" in homicide rates between white and black males is already massive -- but what's not often discussed is that except for the highest offender cohort, say age 15 - 45, the homicide offending rate for black females is comparable to that of white males -- the data below, while rather old (from 1998), shows this: in fact, it shows black females actually had higher homicide offending rates than white males -- but nowadays I think it's true that in the highest offending age cohort, white males have somewhat higher offending rates than black females -- but outside this high offending age cohort, they are comparable.

    Black females have the highest homicide victimization rate of any group -- but this is because they are murdered by black males.

    https://static.prisonpolicy.org/prisonindex/graphs/murderrace.jpg
    , @Sincerity.net
    Mentioning such racist statistics and scientific racism is not allowed. Media "ethics" codes, instructions to police, and social media community standards all mandate to avoid telling #TrueSpeech that could cause #TruePrejudice towards "minorities".
    Covering up such information is dishonest, and misleads the voter and thus gravely manipulates voting outcome. We describe all this on our site, and hope you make some useful comments there.
  4. Does anyone ever consider how much of our taxes are spent on this race of people? They suck down much more in taxes than they pay into all levels of government. When does it end?

    • Replies: @Glock45
    Does anyone ever consider how much of our taxes are spent on this race of people? They suck down much more in taxes than they pay into all levels of government. When does it end?

    Here's a breakdown that Vox Day did back in 2017:

    According to the data derived from the 2014 federal budget, the average annual net tax/benefit broke down as follows:

    White: -$2,795
    Black: +$10,016

    Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200. However, since there are 4.6 times more whites than blacks in the USA, the black share has to be divided among the various contributors to sort out a one-to-one comparison.

    So, the net cost to the average White American of the average Black American is $384,109.
    , @eah
    For an assessment/estimate of the lifetime fiscal impact, see The Alternative Hypothesis.

    https://i.postimg.cc/15Ch3Zcq/per-capita-lifetime-budgetary-impact.jpg
    , @Dave453
    It ends when we no longer share land with them.
    One way or another.
  5. Blacks and whites are “exactly the same”.
    They both commit crimes at the same rates.
    They both commit the same types of crimes.
    They both start committing serious crimes at about age 11 or 12. They both commit repeated crimes.

    Therefore, if more blacks are arrested it must be
    “disparate impact” because of “white supremacy” and “systemic racism”.

    That can be the only (politically correct) explanation.

    • LOL: Augustus
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    If you really want an eyeopener, dredge up the non-PC crime stats broken down by race for all ages. . The prime crime years 15-45 or whatever have far more groid crime indicated, but the racial disparities are much more pronounced for younger than 15 and over 45. People commit crimes at those ages, and the serious crime is almost all black/brown.
  6. It’s also a safe bet that black men are arrested at a much higher rate than black women. So, it be not only rayciss and sheeit, but sexissist an sheeit, too!

    Actually, that’s a good argument to pull on an SJW when they go on these little tirades. Often, without even thinking, they’ll blurt out “that’s because black women don’t commit as many crimes”. Then, you just tell them okay, follow through with that kind of reasoning just a little bit further. That usually changes the subject.

    I did it a few years ago when someone was whining about the disproportionate amount of blacks and latinos getting killed by the police. When I looked at the graph and said hmm, I wonder why nobody’s complaining about the fact that whites get killed at a higher rate than asians? “Well, maybe white people commit more crimes than asians!” was the kneejerk response. Needless to say, when I suggested they apply that line of reasoning bit more equitably, crickets.

    • Agree: Glock45
    • Replies: @Glock45
    When I looked at the graph and said hmm, I wonder why nobody’s complaining about the fact that whites get killed at a higher rate than asians? “Well, maybe white people commit more crimes than asians!” was the kneejerk response. Needless to say, when I suggested they apply that line of reasoning bit more equitably, crickets.

    I've experienced this too, and it never ceases to amaze me how something this simple and basic simply will not register with your typical sh!tlib.

    And it really came home to me a couple of years ago when the NPC meme went viral, because watching their hysterical reactions to that meme, and the meaning behind the meme, was a polished mirror that illuminated the truth of their existence: almost every last one of them is nothing more than a programmed automaton, with all these pre-programmed responses ("racism!", "systematic inequalities!", "structural oppression!", "white privilege!!") and pre-programmed in-groups and out-groups (whites = evil; all non-whites = good) and that IS their existence. Almost all of them will never be able to shed their programming, because that is all they are: nothing but these pre-programmed responses and pre-programmed preference groups.
  7. Equality of outcome is not the same as equality of opportunity, and this proposal/idea is the former which will destroy a society quicker than anything except a really hot war.

    And that is precisely why it is being considered.

  8. @Wake up
    Does anyone ever consider how much of our taxes are spent on this race of people? They suck down much more in taxes than they pay into all levels of government. When does it end?

    Does anyone ever consider how much of our taxes are spent on this race of people? They suck down much more in taxes than they pay into all levels of government. When does it end?

    Here’s a breakdown that Vox Day did back in 2017:

    According to the data derived from the 2014 federal budget, the average annual net tax/benefit broke down as follows:

    White: -$2,795
    Black: +$10,016

    Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200. However, since there are 4.6 times more whites than blacks in the USA, the black share has to be divided among the various contributors to sort out a one-to-one comparison.

    So, the net cost to the average White American of the average Black American is $384,109.

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Lancelot Link
    And I coulda had a V-8!
  9. @PO'd in PG County
    It's also a safe bet that black men are arrested at a much higher rate than black women. So, it be not only rayciss and sheeit, but sexissist an sheeit, too!

    Actually, that's a good argument to pull on an SJW when they go on these little tirades. Often, without even thinking, they'll blurt out "that's because black women don't commit as many crimes". Then, you just tell them okay, follow through with that kind of reasoning just a little bit further. That usually changes the subject.

    I did it a few years ago when someone was whining about the disproportionate amount of blacks and latinos getting killed by the police. When I looked at the graph and said hmm, I wonder why nobody's complaining about the fact that whites get killed at a higher rate than asians? "Well, maybe white people commit more crimes than asians!" was the kneejerk response. Needless to say, when I suggested they apply that line of reasoning bit more equitably, crickets.

    When I looked at the graph and said hmm, I wonder why nobody’s complaining about the fact that whites get killed at a higher rate than asians? “Well, maybe white people commit more crimes than asians!” was the kneejerk response. Needless to say, when I suggested they apply that line of reasoning bit more equitably, crickets.

    I’ve experienced this too, and it never ceases to amaze me how something this simple and basic simply will not register with your typical sh!tlib.

    And it really came home to me a couple of years ago when the NPC meme went viral, because watching their hysterical reactions to that meme, and the meaning behind the meme, was a polished mirror that illuminated the truth of their existence: almost every last one of them is nothing more than a programmed automaton, with all these pre-programmed responses (“racism!”, “systematic inequalities!”, “structural oppression!”, “white privilege!!”) and pre-programmed in-groups and out-groups (whites = evil; all non-whites = good) and that IS their existence. Almost all of them will never be able to shed their programming, because that is all they are: nothing but these pre-programmed responses and pre-programmed preference groups.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    All that’s needed to stifle those conversations is to ask the opposing party for a definition of any of the terms they’ve used.

    I found that usually stops them cold.

    Regurgitating terms and phrases on Oprah or the view have no meaning to them. They use them like sticks and rocks hoping to hide their ignorance.

    Shine a light on that ignorance.
  10. @Augustus
    Why is this disproportionality wrong? Why is that never explained? No one ever explains that to my satisfaction. How is it wrong to protect society by removing or punishing criminals? Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment? If so, why?

    No one has the nads to speak the truth.

  11. I could have done this “study” for half the price. Conclusion of my study, the negroes are a violent lawless group as a whole and because of this commit more crime and therefore get arrested and go to prison more often. The end.

    • Agree: Gunga Din
    • Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    "I could have done this “study” for half the price. "

    Using data from 2014 to 2016, the 14-member Adult Disproportionate Minority Contact Research and Planning Committee worked with MGT Consulting, a Florida-based public sector consulting firm, to determine the extent of racial disproportionality and disparity in the local adult criminal justice system.
     
    Money Grows on Trees ?
  12. This run away train is picking up speed, and the tracks need maintenance. The stunning part is no one is standing up in these “meetings” LOL, and calling this bullshit out for what it is. I will not at all be surprised when the recommendation is handed down demanding that every time one of their pets is arrested, a like age/counterpart that is shall we say a white boy, guilty of something or not will have to be arrested and charged with an identical crime to appease these heathens.

    • Replies: @Alden
    You’re right. The liberals have already established that rule in the public schools. It hasn’t worked out for various reasons. Mostly because White boys behave themselves and there’s no reason to discipline them. But young White men in counties on these anti White kicks should really watch out, especially at night even just coming to and from work.

    Fortunately, the descriptions of criminal suspects in police reports start with race, then sex then age. Black male.

    Anyone whose ever worked with affirmative action blacks knows how HR tolerates behavior from them that would get a White fired.
  13. I don’t care what city you are at, watch the local newscast and see for yourself who is committing the majority of crime.

    • Agree: Wake up
  14. @Augustus
    Why is this disproportionality wrong? Why is that never explained? No one ever explains that to my satisfaction. How is it wrong to protect society by removing or punishing criminals? Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment? If so, why?

    Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment?

    Until a time in living memory, they did get special treatment.  They were kept tightly under the thumbs of White society and the police, and largely segregated so that their misbehavior mostly affected their own.  This kept the impact of their proclivities down to something manageable.

    Now it’s practically a crime to recognize that those proclivities exist; it’s gotta be Whitey’s fault somehow.

    • Agree: Augustus, brandybranch
  15. Currently, Blacks make up around 13% of the population yet 52% of the murders are attributed to Blacks.

    How can we fix this disparity? Simple, make America 100% Black so that at most, Blacks commit 100% of the murders (and other crimes). This is a 1:1 population proportion:crime proportion ratio and is much better than the current 1:4 ratio for the same metric.

    I can’t believe nobody has ever thought of this simple solution before.

    • Replies: @L in Atl hell
    It's actually worse than 13:52. If you factor out women, children under 12 , and the elderly ( 75 and over), you are probably left with about (guessing here) 5% of black males 12-60 , that commit 52% of the crimes. And why is it that a person having priors is NEVER mentioned as a possible reason why that 1 of the 2 people that commit the "same" crime , may receive a harsher sentence than the other.
  16. “Prison reform” is a classic kosher sandwich issue. Yes, prisons are a mess, but the only alternatives you are allowed to consider amount to permitting Blacks to commit crimes without appropriate punishment.

    Like “immigration reform” and “campaign finance reform,” all of the voltage of discontent is grounded into “solutions” that make the situation worse for White heritage Americans.

    • Agree: Wake up
  17. These studies by ‘consultants’ are just a way to steal money from taxpayers by otherwise unemployable social ‘scientist’ grads. Florida has an “Open Records’ law and anyone can go on line ( in most counties) and read the Probable Cause Affidavits/arrest reports. Its entertaining and informative to do so.

    Further, the criterion for Pre Trial Release is also on line. Its a ‘points’ based system just like sentencing. It includes age, ties to the community like do you have a job ( for how long), time at present address, local family, prior record, failure to appear, drug use etc. Each category adds or subtracts points depending on the facts. Its objective not amenable to discrimination. An unemployed white with no fixed address and a history of failing to appear is not going to be eligible for release on their own recognizance no matter how the judge may feel about it.

  18. @Glock45
    When I looked at the graph and said hmm, I wonder why nobody’s complaining about the fact that whites get killed at a higher rate than asians? “Well, maybe white people commit more crimes than asians!” was the kneejerk response. Needless to say, when I suggested they apply that line of reasoning bit more equitably, crickets.

    I've experienced this too, and it never ceases to amaze me how something this simple and basic simply will not register with your typical sh!tlib.

    And it really came home to me a couple of years ago when the NPC meme went viral, because watching their hysterical reactions to that meme, and the meaning behind the meme, was a polished mirror that illuminated the truth of their existence: almost every last one of them is nothing more than a programmed automaton, with all these pre-programmed responses ("racism!", "systematic inequalities!", "structural oppression!", "white privilege!!") and pre-programmed in-groups and out-groups (whites = evil; all non-whites = good) and that IS their existence. Almost all of them will never be able to shed their programming, because that is all they are: nothing but these pre-programmed responses and pre-programmed preference groups.

    All that’s needed to stifle those conversations is to ask the opposing party for a definition of any of the terms they’ve used.

    I found that usually stops them cold.

    Regurgitating terms and phrases on Oprah or the view have no meaning to them. They use them like sticks and rocks hoping to hide their ignorance.

    Shine a light on that ignorance.

    • Agree: Glock45
    • Replies: @bruce county
    Ya.. well that may work 3% of the time. But 97% of the time we usually get, "We can't have that conversation". We can't have that conversation because they have been so brainwashed as to not believe a word that comes from the right. Facts, truth and statistics are like kryponite to lefties. Their answer is always .."I should'nt have to explain it to you".
    , @bruce county
    Ya.. well that may work 3% of the time. But 97% of the time we usually get, “We can’t have that conversation”. We can’t have that conversation because they have been so brainwashed as to not believe a word that comes from the right. Facts, truth and statistics are like kryponite to lefties. Their answer is always ..”I should’nt have to explain it to you”.
  19. “The only explanation for why more black males are arrested, though they make up such a small percentage of the population of Charlottesville, is obviously white racism and structural inequalities, right? It couldn’t be because they commit more crime, and thus qualify for immediate imprisonment courtesy of the taxpayer?”

    If there were no Africans or Hispanics in my county then crime would drop by 90%.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
    If there were no whites, the crime would drop by 100%, as laws are a white imperialist construct.

    Why you got to be tellin me what's legal and shieet?
  20. @Glock45
    Does anyone ever consider how much of our taxes are spent on this race of people? They suck down much more in taxes than they pay into all levels of government. When does it end?

    Here's a breakdown that Vox Day did back in 2017:

    According to the data derived from the 2014 federal budget, the average annual net tax/benefit broke down as follows:

    White: -$2,795
    Black: +$10,016

    Over the course of an average 79-year lifespan, a white individual contributes a net $220,805 to the system, whereas over the course of an average 75-year lifespan, a black individual receives a net $751,200. However, since there are 4.6 times more whites than blacks in the USA, the black share has to be divided among the various contributors to sort out a one-to-one comparison.

    So, the net cost to the average White American of the average Black American is $384,109.

    And I coulda had a V-8!

    • LOL: HammerJack
  21. @europeasant
    "The only explanation for why more black males are arrested, though they make up such a small percentage of the population of Charlottesville, is obviously white racism and structural inequalities, right? It couldn’t be because they commit more crime, and thus qualify for immediate imprisonment courtesy of the taxpayer?"

    If there were no Africans or Hispanics in my county then crime would drop by 90%.

    If there were no whites, the crime would drop by 100%, as laws are a white imperialist construct.

    Why you got to be tellin me what’s legal and shieet?

    • LOL: Pepe the Frog
  22. @Jim in Jersey
    All that’s needed to stifle those conversations is to ask the opposing party for a definition of any of the terms they’ve used.

    I found that usually stops them cold.

    Regurgitating terms and phrases on Oprah or the view have no meaning to them. They use them like sticks and rocks hoping to hide their ignorance.

    Shine a light on that ignorance.

    Ya.. well that may work 3% of the time. But 97% of the time we usually get, “We can’t have that conversation”. We can’t have that conversation because they have been so brainwashed as to not believe a word that comes from the right. Facts, truth and statistics are like kryponite to lefties. Their answer is always ..”I should’nt have to explain it to you”.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    The you should ask "Why not?" Tell them you follow up until XX point of the conversation, but then give a point where you don't understand, and could they explain it further. Make them expound on their reasoning. If they get frustrated or say something, you can say "I was just trying to understand your point".
  23. Let’s call this the “Time to Make it Illegal to Arrest Black Males”

    Thoroughly agree.

    Time to stop arresting them.

    Time to start ______ them at the crime scene.

    (Third attempt to get past the censor…)

    • Agree: brandybranch
  24. @Wake up
    Does anyone ever consider how much of our taxes are spent on this race of people? They suck down much more in taxes than they pay into all levels of government. When does it end?

    For an assessment/estimate of the lifetime fiscal impact, see The Alternative Hypothesis.

  25. Crime seems to be cultural to a certain extent, for example pure whites in Latin America seem to be almost as criminal as the mestizos and blacks despite the fact Spain has very low violent crime rates.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Really?? Where did those numbers come from?

    Whites descend into criminal activity when they visit Latin American countries?

    Who would’ve known?
  26. @Augustus
    Why is this disproportionality wrong? Why is that never explained? No one ever explains that to my satisfaction. How is it wrong to protect society by removing or punishing criminals? Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment? If so, why?

    Augustus—–Yes Blacks are a failed tribe.Yes,Blacks can’t be civilized to White standards.So,yes,Blacks should be treated differently.Black attacks on Whites and White property should be dealt with harshly. However,Black on Black murders,for instance,should be reclassified as misdemeanor homicides. Crime within the Black community isn’t important.No need to fill prisons. I suggest a small fine or good scolding for most Black on Black felonies.De-police Black neighborhoods.Everybody happy.

    • Agree: Augustus
  27. @Jim in Jersey
    All that’s needed to stifle those conversations is to ask the opposing party for a definition of any of the terms they’ve used.

    I found that usually stops them cold.

    Regurgitating terms and phrases on Oprah or the view have no meaning to them. They use them like sticks and rocks hoping to hide their ignorance.

    Shine a light on that ignorance.

    Ya.. well that may work 3% of the time. But 97% of the time we usually get, “We can’t have that conversation”. We can’t have that conversation because they have been so brainwashed as to not believe a word that comes from the right. Facts, truth and statistics are like kryponite to lefties. Their answer is always ..”I should’nt have to explain it to you”.

  28. We move one step closer to when the state (led by masochistic white liberals) deem it illegal to arrest blacks, even for the most heinous, violent crimes.

    It almost like that already, here and there. This week in Saxony:
    Afghan Merkel-male sexually abuses a ten-year-old retarded girl three times – gets three months in prison in Germany.

  29. Another place where blacks are disproportionately represented in the adult criminal justice system and especially the prison system is EMPLOYMENT.

  30. @Augustus
    Why is this disproportionality wrong? Why is that never explained? No one ever explains that to my satisfaction. How is it wrong to protect society by removing or punishing criminals? Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment? If so, why?

    We must cling to the (probably futile) hope that Trump, upon reelection, will take a page from the Soros/Obama playbook and bypass the usual “lame duck” approach to a second term by weaponizing the office to inflict as much damage upon his enemies as possible. As Bubba Clinton once said with a knowing wink, “Stroke o’ the pen – law o’ the land. Pretty cool.

    So leave us fervently hope that Pres Trump, who by now can be under no illusion about bipartisanship or the sudden appearance of Scoop Jackson’s ghost, applies his hard-won knowledge (that the swamp creatures of the Nihilist Left can’t deface your legacy if you break their arms and legs first) ruthlessly and liberally.

    • Replies: @D-FENS
    The only group to benefit from a Trump second term will be the same group that most benefitted from his first term. And it’s pretty obvious who that is.
    , @Philbert Desanex
    That was Paul Begala who made the "stroke of the pen..." comment. Bubba was busy stroking something else
  31. @bruce county
    Ya.. well that may work 3% of the time. But 97% of the time we usually get, "We can't have that conversation". We can't have that conversation because they have been so brainwashed as to not believe a word that comes from the right. Facts, truth and statistics are like kryponite to lefties. Their answer is always .."I should'nt have to explain it to you".

    The you should ask “Why not?” Tell them you follow up until XX point of the conversation, but then give a point where you don’t understand, and could they explain it further. Make them expound on their reasoning. If they get frustrated or say something, you can say “I was just trying to understand your point”.

  32. @Ragno
    We must cling to the (probably futile) hope that Trump, upon reelection, will take a page from the Soros/Obama playbook and bypass the usual "lame duck" approach to a second term by weaponizing the office to inflict as much damage upon his enemies as possible. As Bubba Clinton once said with a knowing wink, "Stroke o' the pen - law o' the land. Pretty cool."

    So leave us fervently hope that Pres Trump, who by now can be under no illusion about bipartisanship or the sudden appearance of Scoop Jackson's ghost, applies his hard-won knowledge (that the swamp creatures of the Nihilist Left can't deface your legacy if you break their arms and legs first) ruthlessly and liberally.

    The only group to benefit from a Trump second term will be the same group that most benefitted from his first term. And it’s pretty obvious who that is.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    Oy vey, who could they be?
    , @Augustus
    "The only group to benefit from a Trump second term will be the same group that most benefitted from his first term. And it's pretty obvious who that is."

    If Trump has accomplished nothing else, he has freed us from the media stranglehold of political correctness. I am now armed. I practice shooting more than most retired men golf. I now speak up respectfully, but without fear. Even in my state (the liberal cesspool of Cook County, Illinois) illegals have been double-checked by employers and forced off many decent jobs, leaving those opportunities available to other legal citizens (like my girlfriend). Tax cuts have once again been shown to work at increasing economic activity (leftists denied this through Kennedy and Reagan). Third time is hard to deny. Rolling back regulations by government has freed many businesses to continue to keep employees working, and often to hire more. Real wages are up! How long since we've seen that? An old, sobered, drinking buddy, and Shumpeter disciple, stands atop the economic heap at Treasury, and there are growing echoes of a metals standard instead of fiat currency (won't happen, but good to hear).

    All has not been lost. As I say, I am armed legally even in the Chicago cesspool, and Dems can do nothing about it. All I want now is state to state reciprocity. Conservatives need Trump for that, as he tries to give us more conservative Justices, and we need a big majority in the House, while holding the Senate. My glass is half full after decades of a half empty state of affairs. I also think my expectations are within reason. If demographics is the future, at least I hope Americans can defend themselves against socialist Dems seeking "free" stuff. No lunch is as expensive as a free lunch. Let's keep trying to allow people to keep more of their earnings to prepare to survive the imminent financial meltdown of the dollar.
  33. @RickTen99
    I could have done this "study" for half the price. Conclusion of my study, the negroes are a violent lawless group as a whole and because of this commit more crime and therefore get arrested and go to prison more often. The end.

    “I could have done this “study” for half the price. ”

    Using data from 2014 to 2016, the 14-member Adult Disproportionate Minority Contact Research and Planning Committee worked with MGT Consulting, a Florida-based public sector consulting firm, to determine the extent of racial disproportionality and disparity in the local adult criminal justice system.

    Money Grows on Trees ?

  34. • Replies: @brandybranch
    http://modernheretic3000.blogspot.com/2020/02/this-tragic-loss-of-life.html
  35. @Anonymous
    Crime seems to be cultural to a certain extent, for example pure whites in Latin America seem to be almost as criminal as the mestizos and blacks despite the fact Spain has very low violent crime rates.

    Really?? Where did those numbers come from?

    Whites descend into criminal activity when they visit Latin American countries?

    Who would’ve known?

  36. Charlottesville is San Francisco East and the government is completely run by communists. These are the people responsible for creating the situation that led to the white kid in his car being attacked by antifa before he ran into the fat antifa chick. And of course he was blamed completely and immediately charged by Bill Barr with federal hate crimes getting a life sentence.

  37. @eah

    The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community. Racial disparity is when individuals in similar situations receive different outcomes based on race.
     
    Also:

    Racial disparity for black males was not found at two critical points — the duration of time served for an offense and the duration of sentence imposed.
     
    So basically, all forms of "racial disproportionality" (representation) can be straightforwardly (Occam's Razor) explained by the fact black males commit more crime, and all forms of "racial disparity" (outcomes) by the fact black males typically commit a lot more serious, violent crime -- because the study found that for the same offense, there was no difference in outcome.

    But why come to the simple, obvious conclusion, e.g. by just looking at the data you submit yearly to the FBI via the UCR, when you can inflate your own and government's importance via a costly study at taxpayer expense?

    The city of Charlottesville is approx 19% black, i.e. about 50% higher than nationally -- re violent crime, recently the Blacks there actually seem to be a little bit tamer (crime was higher in the past): the violent crime bars are not 50% taller -- this site shows/says more or less the same thing --> link
    https://www.cityrating.com/charts/virginia/charlottesville-violent-crime-per-capita.png

    The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community.

    The “racial disproportionality” in homicide rates between white and black males is already massive — but what’s not often discussed is that except for the highest offender cohort, say age 15 – 45, the homicide offending rate for black females is comparable to that of white males — the data below, while rather old (from 1998), shows this: in fact, it shows black females actually had higher homicide offending rates than white males — but nowadays I think it’s true that in the highest offending age cohort, white males have somewhat higher offending rates than black females — but outside this high offending age cohort, they are comparable.

    Black females have the highest homicide victimization rate of any group — but this is because they are murdered by black males.

    • Replies: @PO'd in PG County
    I'm deeply offended by that graph! White Males are killing at a rate about 3x that of White Females! Oh, the HUMANITY! Where is the public outcry over this. We need community support to stop this! Somebody gotta do a study! This be sexxissit an' sheeit!! Ayebodypodahep!!
    , @Alden
    That’s because black women kill their children
  38. @Trevor
    Blacks and whites are "exactly the same".
    They both commit crimes at the same rates.
    They both commit the same types of crimes.
    They both start committing serious crimes at about age 11 or 12. They both commit repeated crimes.

    Therefore, if more blacks are arrested it must be
    "disparate impact" because of "white supremacy" and "systemic racism".

    That can be the only (politically correct) explanation.

    If you really want an eyeopener, dredge up the non-PC crime stats broken down by race for all ages. . The prime crime years 15-45 or whatever have far more groid crime indicated, but the racial disparities are much more pronounced for younger than 15 and over 45. People commit crimes at those ages, and the serious crime is almost all black/brown.

  39. C-Ville is run by evil Whites and a few minority cohorts.

    They should have been sued for violating the rights and arranging an ambush of the few Whites who dared speak up.

    • Replies: @Female in FL
    The joint is loaded with government parasite retired employees with lucrative pensions.
  40. @D-FENS
    The only group to benefit from a Trump second term will be the same group that most benefitted from his first term. And it’s pretty obvious who that is.

    Oy vey, who could they be?

    • Agree: Love Street
  41. @D-FENS
    The only group to benefit from a Trump second term will be the same group that most benefitted from his first term. And it’s pretty obvious who that is.

    “The only group to benefit from a Trump second term will be the same group that most benefitted from his first term. And it’s pretty obvious who that is.”

    If Trump has accomplished nothing else, he has freed us from the media stranglehold of political correctness. I am now armed. I practice shooting more than most retired men golf. I now speak up respectfully, but without fear. Even in my state (the liberal cesspool of Cook County, Illinois) illegals have been double-checked by employers and forced off many decent jobs, leaving those opportunities available to other legal citizens (like my girlfriend). Tax cuts have once again been shown to work at increasing economic activity (leftists denied this through Kennedy and Reagan). Third time is hard to deny. Rolling back regulations by government has freed many businesses to continue to keep employees working, and often to hire more. Real wages are up! How long since we’ve seen that? An old, sobered, drinking buddy, and Shumpeter disciple, stands atop the economic heap at Treasury, and there are growing echoes of a metals standard instead of fiat currency (won’t happen, but good to hear).

    All has not been lost. As I say, I am armed legally even in the Chicago cesspool, and Dems can do nothing about it. All I want now is state to state reciprocity. Conservatives need Trump for that, as he tries to give us more conservative Justices, and we need a big majority in the House, while holding the Senate. My glass is half full after decades of a half empty state of affairs. I also think my expectations are within reason. If demographics is the future, at least I hope Americans can defend themselves against socialist Dems seeking “free” stuff. No lunch is as expensive as a free lunch. Let’s keep trying to allow people to keep more of their earnings to prepare to survive the imminent financial meltdown of the dollar.

    • Replies: @Female in FL
    I’m heading west for a vacation with my daughter and grandchildren this summer. I can live anywhere, feel the need to get those kids out of Northern Virginia.
  42. @Sick of Orcs
    C-Ville is run by evil Whites and a few minority cohorts.

    They should have been sued for violating the rights and arranging an ambush of the few Whites who dared speak up.

    The joint is loaded with government parasite retired employees with lucrative pensions.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    Agree. Few realize the extent of both federal and state cartel governments.
  43. @Augustus
    "The only group to benefit from a Trump second term will be the same group that most benefitted from his first term. And it's pretty obvious who that is."

    If Trump has accomplished nothing else, he has freed us from the media stranglehold of political correctness. I am now armed. I practice shooting more than most retired men golf. I now speak up respectfully, but without fear. Even in my state (the liberal cesspool of Cook County, Illinois) illegals have been double-checked by employers and forced off many decent jobs, leaving those opportunities available to other legal citizens (like my girlfriend). Tax cuts have once again been shown to work at increasing economic activity (leftists denied this through Kennedy and Reagan). Third time is hard to deny. Rolling back regulations by government has freed many businesses to continue to keep employees working, and often to hire more. Real wages are up! How long since we've seen that? An old, sobered, drinking buddy, and Shumpeter disciple, stands atop the economic heap at Treasury, and there are growing echoes of a metals standard instead of fiat currency (won't happen, but good to hear).

    All has not been lost. As I say, I am armed legally even in the Chicago cesspool, and Dems can do nothing about it. All I want now is state to state reciprocity. Conservatives need Trump for that, as he tries to give us more conservative Justices, and we need a big majority in the House, while holding the Senate. My glass is half full after decades of a half empty state of affairs. I also think my expectations are within reason. If demographics is the future, at least I hope Americans can defend themselves against socialist Dems seeking "free" stuff. No lunch is as expensive as a free lunch. Let's keep trying to allow people to keep more of their earnings to prepare to survive the imminent financial meltdown of the dollar.

    I’m heading west for a vacation with my daughter and grandchildren this summer. I can live anywhere, feel the need to get those kids out of Northern Virginia.

    • Agree: Augustus
    • Replies: @Augustus
    Yes, Northern Virginia seems like an area best viewed through the rearview mirror.
  44. @Wake up
    Does anyone ever consider how much of our taxes are spent on this race of people? They suck down much more in taxes than they pay into all levels of government. When does it end?

    It ends when we no longer share land with them.
    One way or another.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @NC Realist
    Thanks Dave. To put it simple and factual...no truer words are spoken.
  45. @Just passing through
    Currently, Blacks make up around 13% of the population yet 52% of the murders are attributed to Blacks.

    How can we fix this disparity? Simple, make America 100% Black so that at most, Blacks commit 100% of the murders (and other crimes). This is a 1:1 population proportion:crime proportion ratio and is much better than the current 1:4 ratio for the same metric.

    I can't believe nobody has ever thought of this simple solution before.

    It’s actually worse than 13:52. If you factor out women, children under 12 , and the elderly ( 75 and over), you are probably left with about (guessing here) 5% of black males 12-60 , that commit 52% of the crimes. And why is it that a person having priors is NEVER mentioned as a possible reason why that 1 of the 2 people that commit the “same” crime , may receive a harsher sentence than the other.

  46. I’m just an old, retired, white devil sitting at home sending out waves of evil energy that causes some poor, sweet, innocent, angelic negro to lose his mind and commit crimes and get arrested. Every negro in my town now has the right to use the excuse at trial that, “The white debbil made me do it!” Surely that should be enough for the judge to immediately dismiss all charges!

    All joking aside, the excuse that “the white debbil made me do it” perfectly encapsulates the level of negro thinking vis a vis their crime rates and all the social problems they create. If not for that, they wouldn’t be doin’ nuffin and they dindu nuffin anyway! It’s all your fault, honky.

  47. @eah

    The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community.
     
    The "racial disproportionality" in homicide rates between white and black males is already massive -- but what's not often discussed is that except for the highest offender cohort, say age 15 - 45, the homicide offending rate for black females is comparable to that of white males -- the data below, while rather old (from 1998), shows this: in fact, it shows black females actually had higher homicide offending rates than white males -- but nowadays I think it's true that in the highest offending age cohort, white males have somewhat higher offending rates than black females -- but outside this high offending age cohort, they are comparable.

    Black females have the highest homicide victimization rate of any group -- but this is because they are murdered by black males.

    https://static.prisonpolicy.org/prisonindex/graphs/murderrace.jpg

    I’m deeply offended by that graph! White Males are killing at a rate about 3x that of White Females! Oh, the HUMANITY! Where is the public outcry over this. We need community support to stop this! Somebody gotta do a study! This be sexxissit an’ sheeit!! Ayebodypodahep!!

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    We need mo' money fo' dem programz!
    , @Love Street
    Yes ! Form a committee Now!
    , @Augustus
    "Ayebodypodahep!!"


    My morning cup of tea just sprayed out to hit the China cabinet. No wonder I love reading every word written here.
    Now I have to clean that glass before Tonya Harding awakens and beats me again.
  48. @Female in FL
    The joint is loaded with government parasite retired employees with lucrative pensions.

    Agree. Few realize the extent of both federal and state cartel governments.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    But if you remove them from the rosters of useless government hacks, then they’re just out on the street looting and shooting again.

    Wasn’t the government’s plan to employ them in order to keep them off the streets?

    Obviously they need to raise taxes so they can hire the remainder of them that are out there causing all this peskiness.

    Kids these days....
  49. @Sick of Orcs
    Agree. Few realize the extent of both federal and state cartel governments.

    But if you remove them from the rosters of useless government hacks, then they’re just out on the street looting and shooting again.

    Wasn’t the government’s plan to employ them in order to keep them off the streets?

    Obviously they need to raise taxes so they can hire the remainder of them that are out there causing all this peskiness.

    Kids these days….

    • Replies: @Lost in Illinois
    To Jim in Jersey,

    I agree wholeheartedly. Because not passing them through elementary school, middle school, high school, and advanced degrees in college despite the fact that they can’t read a first grade level is considered racist, what were we going to do with them?
  50. @PO'd in PG County
    I'm deeply offended by that graph! White Males are killing at a rate about 3x that of White Females! Oh, the HUMANITY! Where is the public outcry over this. We need community support to stop this! Somebody gotta do a study! This be sexxissit an' sheeit!! Ayebodypodahep!!

    We need mo’ money fo’ dem programz!

    • LOL: Pepe the Frog
  51. @Jim in Jersey
    But if you remove them from the rosters of useless government hacks, then they’re just out on the street looting and shooting again.

    Wasn’t the government’s plan to employ them in order to keep them off the streets?

    Obviously they need to raise taxes so they can hire the remainder of them that are out there causing all this peskiness.

    Kids these days....

    To Jim in Jersey,

    I agree wholeheartedly. Because not passing them through elementary school, middle school, high school, and advanced degrees in college despite the fact that they can’t read a first grade level is considered racist, what were we going to do with them?

    • Replies: @Trevor
    I knew a black female in my general business environment who had a Masters in Education. I had no dealings with her until circumstances gave me the opportunity to read a letter that she had written.

    In my judgement based on that letter she was borderline illiterate.

    Her "career" had been education teaching/administration to city government employee (typical negro employment) to sales where most of her clients were black. She was routinely screwing them over but it took years to terminate her because she was black.

    There are probably millions of blacks like her.
    , @Sick of Orcs
    Like-minded Whites must unite and secede from blue-run black holes. Currently there are 5 such movements brewing.

    These new states should have no affirmative action and harsh penalties for repeat offenders.
  52. @CDebussey
    This run away train is picking up speed, and the tracks need maintenance. The stunning part is no one is standing up in these "meetings" LOL, and calling this bullshit out for what it is. I will not at all be surprised when the recommendation is handed down demanding that every time one of their pets is arrested, a like age/counterpart that is shall we say a white boy, guilty of something or not will have to be arrested and charged with an identical crime to appease these heathens.

    You’re right. The liberals have already established that rule in the public schools. It hasn’t worked out for various reasons. Mostly because White boys behave themselves and there’s no reason to discipline them. But young White men in counties on these anti White kicks should really watch out, especially at night even just coming to and from work.

    Fortunately, the descriptions of criminal suspects in police reports start with race, then sex then age. Black male.

    Anyone whose ever worked with affirmative action blacks knows how HR tolerates behavior from them that would get a White fired.

    • Agree: By-tor
    • Replies: @CDebussey

    Fortunately, the descriptions of criminal suspects in police reports start with race, then sex then age. Black male.
     
    All they need to do is quit committing crime. It is entirely within their control to shift the statistics so whites would be disproportionately incarcerated. All they need to do is commit crimes at a lower rate than white people. Rather than solve the problem by means within their control, blacks want to shift the burden of solving their problem to a third party. I’ll become more sympathetic to their incessant bitching when someone shows me reliable statistics indicating that the black arrest rate is disproportionate compared to the black crime rate.
  53. @eah

    The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community.
     
    The "racial disproportionality" in homicide rates between white and black males is already massive -- but what's not often discussed is that except for the highest offender cohort, say age 15 - 45, the homicide offending rate for black females is comparable to that of white males -- the data below, while rather old (from 1998), shows this: in fact, it shows black females actually had higher homicide offending rates than white males -- but nowadays I think it's true that in the highest offending age cohort, white males have somewhat higher offending rates than black females -- but outside this high offending age cohort, they are comparable.

    Black females have the highest homicide victimization rate of any group -- but this is because they are murdered by black males.

    https://static.prisonpolicy.org/prisonindex/graphs/murderrace.jpg

    That’s because black women kill their children

  54. @Lost in Illinois
    To Jim in Jersey,

    I agree wholeheartedly. Because not passing them through elementary school, middle school, high school, and advanced degrees in college despite the fact that they can’t read a first grade level is considered racist, what were we going to do with them?

    I knew a black female in my general business environment who had a Masters in Education. I had no dealings with her until circumstances gave me the opportunity to read a letter that she had written.

    In my judgement based on that letter she was borderline illiterate.

    Her “career” had been education teaching/administration to city government employee (typical negro employment) to sales where most of her clients were black. She was routinely screwing them over but it took years to terminate her because she was black.

    There are probably millions of blacks like her.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Trevor--------We have a lot of Affirmative action Blacks in S.C. Most of them gravitate to government jobs. Nobody in authority is bothered by this because,after all,it's only White taxpayer's money.Plenty more where that came from. Meanwhile,the Black detective recorded my home burglary statement.I am not sure if he was even minimally literate.
  55. @Augustus
    Why is this disproportionality wrong? Why is that never explained? No one ever explains that to my satisfaction. How is it wrong to protect society by removing or punishing criminals? Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment? If so, why?

    Because everybody knows that race is a social construct. Muh paintjob theory says that if, speaking hypothetically (I don’t have figures at hand), a population of Africans-in-America commits murder at a rate of seventy-five per hundred thousand per year, and a population of Whites commits murder at a rate of two per hundred thousand per year, the only possible explanation is that there are seventy-three murders being committed by violent White criminals that are being covered up and/or falsely blamed on poor misunderstood non-Whites, who are all victims, VICTIMS, willy-nilly, of a racist conspiracy.

    Everybody is exactly the same, no exceptions, and if objective reality disagrees with you when you look at the data, well, the data must be wrong, because everybody is exactly the same. This is called “systemic racism” and it’s all Whitey’s fault. See also, statistics for armed robbery. See also, SAT scores. See also, cranial capacity. See also, IQ scores. See also, twenty to thirty thousand black-on-White rape cases every year and zero White-on-black rape cases most years. If the statistics suggest everybody isn’t the same, the statistics must be wrong, because “systemic racism.” It must be a conspiracy. “Human equality is a contingent fact of history,” said (((Stephen J. Gould))).

    The more I think about it, the more I think you could replace the word “racism” with the word “witchcraft” and no information would be lost, nor would the meaning of any sentence containing it be changed.

    • LOL: Augustus
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    The more I think about it, the more I think you could replace the word “racism” with the word “witchcraft” and no information would be lost
     
    1.  You're not the first to note this.

    2.  You're not wrong either.
  56. @Pepe the Frog
    Because everybody knows that race is a social construct. Muh paintjob theory says that if, speaking hypothetically (I don't have figures at hand), a population of Africans-in-America commits murder at a rate of seventy-five per hundred thousand per year, and a population of Whites commits murder at a rate of two per hundred thousand per year, the only possible explanation is that there are seventy-three murders being committed by violent White criminals that are being covered up and/or falsely blamed on poor misunderstood non-Whites, who are all victims, VICTIMS, willy-nilly, of a racist conspiracy.

    Everybody is exactly the same, no exceptions, and if objective reality disagrees with you when you look at the data, well, the data must be wrong, because everybody is exactly the same. This is called "systemic racism" and it's all Whitey's fault. See also, statistics for armed robbery. See also, SAT scores. See also, cranial capacity. See also, IQ scores. See also, twenty to thirty thousand black-on-White rape cases every year and zero White-on-black rape cases most years. If the statistics suggest everybody isn't the same, the statistics must be wrong, because "systemic racism." It must be a conspiracy. "Human equality is a contingent fact of history," said (((Stephen J. Gould))).

    The more I think about it, the more I think you could replace the word "racism" with the word "witchcraft" and no information would be lost, nor would the meaning of any sentence containing it be changed.

    The more I think about it, the more I think you could replace the word “racism” with the word “witchcraft” and no information would be lost

    1.  You’re not the first to note this.

    2.  You’re not wrong either.

  57. @Female in FL
    I’m heading west for a vacation with my daughter and grandchildren this summer. I can live anywhere, feel the need to get those kids out of Northern Virginia.

    Yes, Northern Virginia seems like an area best viewed through the rearview mirror.

    • Agree: Female in FL
  58. @Ragno
    We must cling to the (probably futile) hope that Trump, upon reelection, will take a page from the Soros/Obama playbook and bypass the usual "lame duck" approach to a second term by weaponizing the office to inflict as much damage upon his enemies as possible. As Bubba Clinton once said with a knowing wink, "Stroke o' the pen - law o' the land. Pretty cool."

    So leave us fervently hope that Pres Trump, who by now can be under no illusion about bipartisanship or the sudden appearance of Scoop Jackson's ghost, applies his hard-won knowledge (that the swamp creatures of the Nihilist Left can't deface your legacy if you break their arms and legs first) ruthlessly and liberally.

    That was Paul Begala who made the “stroke of the pen…” comment. Bubba was busy stroking something else

    • Replies: @Ragno
    Begala! That's the lying dog-faced pony soldier we can thank for inverting the color scheme honest men had used for years (Commies red, free people blue). And he did it on MSNBC, back when CNN was just inoffensive background noise in airport lounges.

    Just another shameful footnote in a ledger full of them? Perhaps. But it was damned dispiriting watching "the country" just lie down and take it as that most ominously-menacing hue, red, became the de facto color associated with flyover country/the American South/that increasingly-problematic Bill of Rights....

    Of course, as it turned out, "the country" simply meant the now-monolithic media, speaking with one ventriloquist voice on all matters great and small; and while the MSM's crimes can't be listed here - we'd run out of bandwidth - I like to think that purportedly rational folks, with alleged spines, quietly assenting to the new red/blue valuations, was what sent the fatal all-clear signal to the very worst scuttling lifeforms among us - all of whom now occupy America's corner offices, from where they giddily oversee the final dismantling of Western civilization.
  59. @Trevor
    I knew a black female in my general business environment who had a Masters in Education. I had no dealings with her until circumstances gave me the opportunity to read a letter that she had written.

    In my judgement based on that letter she was borderline illiterate.

    Her "career" had been education teaching/administration to city government employee (typical negro employment) to sales where most of her clients were black. She was routinely screwing them over but it took years to terminate her because she was black.

    There are probably millions of blacks like her.

    Trevor——–We have a lot of Affirmative action Blacks in S.C. Most of them gravitate to government jobs. Nobody in authority is bothered by this because,after all,it’s only White taxpayer’s money.Plenty more where that came from. Meanwhile,the Black detective recorded my home burglary statement.I am not sure if he was even minimally literate.

  60. @Lost in Illinois
    To Jim in Jersey,

    I agree wholeheartedly. Because not passing them through elementary school, middle school, high school, and advanced degrees in college despite the fact that they can’t read a first grade level is considered racist, what were we going to do with them?

    Like-minded Whites must unite and secede from blue-run black holes. Currently there are 5 such movements brewing.

    These new states should have no affirmative action and harsh penalties for repeat offenders.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey

    ...harsh penalties for repeat offenders.
     
    And no restrictions regarding the carrying of firearms... you know... like in the constitution.

    That’s called “harsh penalties for first time offenders”!
    , @Pepe the Frog
    Perhaps they could even be "sanctuary states" where Affirmative Action is illegal.

    No doubt Leftists will shriek in fury at the very idea of such audacity and point out that it is a violation of Federal law. Then we will be able to tell them that "sanctuary states" for illegal aliens, and "medical marijuana" laws, are likewise violations of Federal law and jurisdictions that have such laws are in a state of rebellion against the United States. But since they've already established the precedent that this is perfectly fine, they aren't allowed to object when people use the precedent they were so eager to establish.

    I personally want to live in a "sanctuary state" that will protect me and my family from Affirmative Action, "civil rights," "school desegregation," "integration," "diversity," holders of H1B visas, and Federal gun laws. We can dream, can't we?

    , @Sincerity.net
    I admire your optimism. While the last white ethnostates are getting overrun and destroyed in Europe, you dream of white ethnostates.
    You had white ethnostates in Minnesota, Vermont, etc and they are overrun by immigrants as if it were Sweden. Reason are nordic leftist good-white mis-led dreamers. The underlying deep reason is the #PCGagOrder that makes sure that #TrueSpeech and True Facts must never be told to the ordinary citizen. A TruthRevolution is needed to wake them up out of their slumber. Radical truth telling!
  61. Twenty-three year-old Afro male and his 18-year-old coal burner girlfriend used their car against two white boys on bicycles in Indiana. Ghetto-Becky strikes the same pose as Jontavius.

    Perry-Jones allegedly threatened to beat the boys up for calling 911, court records state.

    In the video, Perry-Jones also said that if police questioned him about it, he would just say the boys called him a racial slur.

    During the encounter, Perry-Jones allegedly drove his car through several yards, chasing them.

    https://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/boys-riding-bikes-with-trump-flags-ran-off-road-police/article_18ead463-9450-5968-8ef2-91683b2bd6c6.html

    • Replies: @Augustus
    ".......Perry-Jones drove his car through several yards, chasing them."

    Sounds like attempted murder or vehicular homicide to me. A 23 year old coward and ghetto Becky threatening kids on bicycles? Cowardly.

    Good that the kids learned a lesson early in life about blacks.

  62. @Dave453
    It ends when we no longer share land with them.
    One way or another.

    Thanks Dave. To put it simple and factual…no truer words are spoken.

  63. @Sick of Orcs
    Like-minded Whites must unite and secede from blue-run black holes. Currently there are 5 such movements brewing.

    These new states should have no affirmative action and harsh penalties for repeat offenders.

    …harsh penalties for repeat offenders.

    And no restrictions regarding the carrying of firearms… you know… like in the constitution.

    That’s called “harsh penalties for first time offenders”!

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs, Augustus
  64. @Sick of Orcs
    Like-minded Whites must unite and secede from blue-run black holes. Currently there are 5 such movements brewing.

    These new states should have no affirmative action and harsh penalties for repeat offenders.

    Perhaps they could even be “sanctuary states” where Affirmative Action is illegal.

    No doubt Leftists will shriek in fury at the very idea of such audacity and point out that it is a violation of Federal law. Then we will be able to tell them that “sanctuary states” for illegal aliens, and “medical marijuana” laws, are likewise violations of Federal law and jurisdictions that have such laws are in a state of rebellion against the United States. But since they’ve already established the precedent that this is perfectly fine, they aren’t allowed to object when people use the precedent they were so eager to establish.

    I personally want to live in a “sanctuary state” that will protect me and my family from Affirmative Action, “civil rights,” “school desegregation,” “integration,” “diversity,” holders of H1B visas, and Federal gun laws. We can dream, can’t we?

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Sincerity.net
    @Pepe the frog, "historically disadvantaged minorities" have rights and privileges white Christian males don't possess, because they always had privilege and owned slaves. Even in Sweden/ sarcasm off
    This leftist ideology is not even purely racial. In formerly almost homogenous ethnic states like Germany, low IQ children must be in the same school class as normal and gifted children, even if it is within the white race. And human rights are for criminals. Comment on our sincerity site so we can get in touch
    You also commented on Occam's razor: The (un) scientific dishonesty is in covering up the alternative hypothesis that Blacks commit more crime. 4Racism.org has a section about science and scientific method (only partially finished).
  65. @Alden
    You’re right. The liberals have already established that rule in the public schools. It hasn’t worked out for various reasons. Mostly because White boys behave themselves and there’s no reason to discipline them. But young White men in counties on these anti White kicks should really watch out, especially at night even just coming to and from work.

    Fortunately, the descriptions of criminal suspects in police reports start with race, then sex then age. Black male.

    Anyone whose ever worked with affirmative action blacks knows how HR tolerates behavior from them that would get a White fired.

    Fortunately, the descriptions of criminal suspects in police reports start with race, then sex then age. Black male.

    All they need to do is quit committing crime. It is entirely within their control to shift the statistics so whites would be disproportionately incarcerated. All they need to do is commit crimes at a lower rate than white people. Rather than solve the problem by means within their control, blacks want to shift the burden of solving their problem to a third party. I’ll become more sympathetic to their incessant bitching when someone shows me reliable statistics indicating that the black arrest rate is disproportionate compared to the black crime rate.

    • Agree: Augustus
  66. @Pepe the Frog
    Perhaps they could even be "sanctuary states" where Affirmative Action is illegal.

    No doubt Leftists will shriek in fury at the very idea of such audacity and point out that it is a violation of Federal law. Then we will be able to tell them that "sanctuary states" for illegal aliens, and "medical marijuana" laws, are likewise violations of Federal law and jurisdictions that have such laws are in a state of rebellion against the United States. But since they've already established the precedent that this is perfectly fine, they aren't allowed to object when people use the precedent they were so eager to establish.

    I personally want to live in a "sanctuary state" that will protect me and my family from Affirmative Action, "civil rights," "school desegregation," "integration," "diversity," holders of H1B visas, and Federal gun laws. We can dream, can't we?

    @Pepe the frog, “historically disadvantaged minorities” have rights and privileges white Christian males don’t possess, because they always had privilege and owned slaves. Even in Sweden/ sarcasm off
    This leftist ideology is not even purely racial. In formerly almost homogenous ethnic states like Germany, low IQ children must be in the same school class as normal and gifted children, even if it is within the white race. And human rights are for criminals. Comment on our sincerity site so we can get in touch
    You also commented on Occam’s razor: The (un) scientific dishonesty is in covering up the alternative hypothesis that Blacks commit more crime. 4Racism.org has a section about science and scientific method (only partially finished).

  67. @eah

    The City of Charlottesville defines racial disproportionality as one race being over- or under-represented compared to the overall racial makeup of the whole community. Racial disparity is when individuals in similar situations receive different outcomes based on race.
     
    Also:

    Racial disparity for black males was not found at two critical points — the duration of time served for an offense and the duration of sentence imposed.
     
    So basically, all forms of "racial disproportionality" (representation) can be straightforwardly (Occam's Razor) explained by the fact black males commit more crime, and all forms of "racial disparity" (outcomes) by the fact black males typically commit a lot more serious, violent crime -- because the study found that for the same offense, there was no difference in outcome.

    But why come to the simple, obvious conclusion, e.g. by just looking at the data you submit yearly to the FBI via the UCR, when you can inflate your own and government's importance via a costly study at taxpayer expense?

    The city of Charlottesville is approx 19% black, i.e. about 50% higher than nationally -- re violent crime, recently the Blacks there actually seem to be a little bit tamer (crime was higher in the past): the violent crime bars are not 50% taller -- this site shows/says more or less the same thing --> link
    https://www.cityrating.com/charts/virginia/charlottesville-violent-crime-per-capita.png

    Mentioning such racist statistics and scientific racism is not allowed. Media “ethics” codes, instructions to police, and social media community standards all mandate to avoid telling #TrueSpeech that could cause #TruePrejudice towards “minorities”.
    Covering up such information is dishonest, and misleads the voter and thus gravely manipulates voting outcome. We describe all this on our site, and hope you make some useful comments there.

  68. @Sick of Orcs
    Like-minded Whites must unite and secede from blue-run black holes. Currently there are 5 such movements brewing.

    These new states should have no affirmative action and harsh penalties for repeat offenders.

    I admire your optimism. While the last white ethnostates are getting overrun and destroyed in Europe, you dream of white ethnostates.
    You had white ethnostates in Minnesota, Vermont, etc and they are overrun by immigrants as if it were Sweden. Reason are nordic leftist good-white mis-led dreamers. The underlying deep reason is the #PCGagOrder that makes sure that #TrueSpeech and True Facts must never be told to the ordinary citizen. A TruthRevolution is needed to wake them up out of their slumber. Radical truth telling!

  69. I admire your optimism.

    When the other choice is death, it’s easier to seek the (non-gay) rainbow.

    While the last white ethnostates are getting overrun and destroyed in Europe, you dream of white ethnostates.

    People that share a common history, language and cultural values are a state, if not a nation. But if you want the trains to run on time, your land should be 80% minimum White, and if not that, devoid of affirmative horseshit and forced association with others who don’t share cultural values.

    You had white ethnostates in Minnesota, Vermont, etc and they are overrun by immigrants as if it were Sweden.

    “What’s past is prologue.” No point rehashing how we got here except as a study module in New American History. The mission is to awaken.

    A TruthRevolution is needed to wake them up out of their slumber. Radical truth telling!

    The truth is here. Men with courage are needed to speak it, men fully awake and aware that when money speaks, the truth keeps silent. Men who will continue to speak even after the darkness comes at full gallop and makes speaking freely illegal.

  70. @Philbert Desanex
    That was Paul Begala who made the "stroke of the pen..." comment. Bubba was busy stroking something else

    Begala! That’s the lying dog-faced pony soldier we can thank for inverting the color scheme honest men had used for years (Commies red, free people blue). And he did it on MSNBC, back when CNN was just inoffensive background noise in airport lounges.

    Just another shameful footnote in a ledger full of them? Perhaps. But it was damned dispiriting watching “the country” just lie down and take it as that most ominously-menacing hue, red, became the de facto color associated with flyover country/the American South/that increasingly-problematic Bill of Rights….

    Of course, as it turned out, “the country” simply meant the now-monolithic media, speaking with one ventriloquist voice on all matters great and small; and while the MSM’s crimes can’t be listed here – we’d run out of bandwidth – I like to think that purportedly rational folks, with alleged spines, quietly assenting to the new red/blue valuations, was what sent the fatal all-clear signal to the very worst scuttling lifeforms among us – all of whom now occupy America’s corner offices, from where they giddily oversee the final dismantling of Western civilization.

    • Replies: @Dube
    Exchanging "red" for "blue" seemed instituted prior to announcement. I still have to pause for translation when I hear it.
  71. @PO'd in PG County
    I'm deeply offended by that graph! White Males are killing at a rate about 3x that of White Females! Oh, the HUMANITY! Where is the public outcry over this. We need community support to stop this! Somebody gotta do a study! This be sexxissit an' sheeit!! Ayebodypodahep!!

    Yes ! Form a committee Now!

  72. @Ragno
    Begala! That's the lying dog-faced pony soldier we can thank for inverting the color scheme honest men had used for years (Commies red, free people blue). And he did it on MSNBC, back when CNN was just inoffensive background noise in airport lounges.

    Just another shameful footnote in a ledger full of them? Perhaps. But it was damned dispiriting watching "the country" just lie down and take it as that most ominously-menacing hue, red, became the de facto color associated with flyover country/the American South/that increasingly-problematic Bill of Rights....

    Of course, as it turned out, "the country" simply meant the now-monolithic media, speaking with one ventriloquist voice on all matters great and small; and while the MSM's crimes can't be listed here - we'd run out of bandwidth - I like to think that purportedly rational folks, with alleged spines, quietly assenting to the new red/blue valuations, was what sent the fatal all-clear signal to the very worst scuttling lifeforms among us - all of whom now occupy America's corner offices, from where they giddily oversee the final dismantling of Western civilization.

    Exchanging “red” for “blue” seemed instituted prior to announcement. I still have to pause for translation when I hear it.

  73. @bruce county
    OT:

    Great American Citizen gunned down in California.

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/02/19/pop-smoke-dead-dies-20-murdered-home-invasion-robbery/
  74. Like the song said, ‘When will they ever learn? When will they EVER learn?’

    UTR did nothing wrong.

  75. @PO'd in PG County
    I'm deeply offended by that graph! White Males are killing at a rate about 3x that of White Females! Oh, the HUMANITY! Where is the public outcry over this. We need community support to stop this! Somebody gotta do a study! This be sexxissit an' sheeit!! Ayebodypodahep!!

    “Ayebodypodahep!!”

    My morning cup of tea just sprayed out to hit the China cabinet. No wonder I love reading every word written here.
    Now I have to clean that glass before Tonya Harding awakens and beats me again.

  76. @Augustus
    Why is this disproportionality wrong? Why is that never explained? No one ever explains that to my satisfaction. How is it wrong to protect society by removing or punishing criminals? Are we to have justice that is tailored to all various races, or should we admit that one tribe, failed race, subspecies, or subset of social tribes is incapable of the same civilized behavior as the other groups? Should that failed group get special treatment? If so, why?

    Know what I would love love love to see? A massive class action civil rights lawsuit by every man and boy who had to pay higher auto insurance because he was a man under 35.

    It’s disproportionate representation disparate impact at its most blatant.

    • LOL: Augustus
  77. @By-tor
    Twenty-three year-old Afro male and his 18-year-old coal burner girlfriend used their car against two white boys on bicycles in Indiana. Ghetto-Becky strikes the same pose as Jontavius.

    Perry-Jones allegedly threatened to beat the boys up for calling 911, court records state.

    In the video, Perry-Jones also said that if police questioned him about it, he would just say the boys called him a racial slur.

    During the encounter, Perry-Jones allegedly drove his car through several yards, chasing them.

    https://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/boys-riding-bikes-with-trump-flags-ran-off-road-police/article_18ead463-9450-5968-8ef2-91683b2bd6c6.html

    “…….Perry-Jones drove his car through several yards, chasing them.”

    Sounds like attempted murder or vehicular homicide to me. A 23 year old coward and ghetto Becky threatening kids on bicycles? Cowardly.

    Good that the kids learned a lesson early in life about blacks.

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