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Spoiler Alert: in 11 percent black Asheville, North Carolina, gun violence is a “black-person thing.” [Multiagency collaboration seeks to stop gun violence, MountainX.com, February 13, 2021]:

Can rising gun violence in Asheville be stopped in its tracks by roughly $200,000 of funding supporting a year of on-the-ground programming? Probably not. But that doesn’t mean community organizations don’t plan to try.

Over the last year, the urgent need to address the interrelated causes and impacts of gun violence, systemic racism and poverty grew even more pressing. In 2020, the Asheville Police Department reported a five-year high for calls related to gun discharges and shootings, the vast majority of which involved Black men. Community members grew tired of witnessing the disproportionate impact of gun violence on their friends and neighbors, explains Tiffany Iheanacho, Buncombe County’s justice services director, prompting county leaders to look for new solutions.

In June, Buncombe County’s child fatality review team identified gun violence as a growing threat to children in Asheville. Buncombe County’s Justice Resource Advisory Council passed a proclamation declaring racism a public safety emergency in July.

In early January, Buncombe County announced a new partnership with four community organizations — the SPARC Foundation; Umoja Health, Wellness and Justice Collective; My Daddy Taught Me That; and the Racial Justice Coalition — to develop a community-led strategy to help address gun violence. Funded using a portion of the county’s $1.75 million Safety and Justice Challenge grant, which aims to reduce jail populations, the team plans to provide residents comprehensive services to support the journey out of poverty and trauma.

“In this day and age, it’s really hard to come up with a novel idea about anything,” says Jackie Latek, executive director of the SPARC Foundation. “What we’re doing here is taking existing programs that have evidence and research behind them that have worked, and we’re pulling those programs together.”

From redlining to predatory lending; from the era of mass incarceration to the enormous achievement gap between Black and white students enrolled in Asheville City Schools, gun violence cannot be solved without understanding the history of racism that drove many Black communities into poverty, Thomas argues. “You have to understand the history so the solution will not be seen as charity, because the solution will require a lot of resources, from people to money to infrastructure,” he says.

Residents in communities experiencing high rates of violence are likewise tired of watching programs come and go within a few years, Latek adds, making continued county support all the more important. “If we’re going to push this rock up a hill, don’t pull our people away from us when we get halfway up,” she says. “We need to get this rock to the top, before it comes crashing back down on us.”

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Buncombe County hopes to continue funding the program after its first year, says Hannah Legerton, the Justice Services grants manager. Staff has applied for an additional year of Safety and Justice Challenge grant funding from the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; if awarded, the renewal includes a one-year program extension. Longer term, the county is beginning to look for outside funding streams to continue projects that have demonstrated success, she says.

If the city of Asheville wanted to get involved, Thomas suggests using a portion of the Asheville Police Department’s $30.1 million annual operating budget. As activists continue to advocate for a 50% cut to the APD budget, a fraction of that funding for a program like this could have a huge impact, he says.

“Gun violence isn’t just a Black-person thing, it’s not just a poor-person thing, it’s an everybody problem — you could get shot or robbed if you’ve been doing everything right in your life,” Thomas says. “With this program, we’re trying to work a miracle with a hope and a wish.”

Black gun violence can’t be blamed on redlining, predatory lending, mass incarceration, the racial gap in learning/education or poverty, but simply on black individuals deciding to pull the trigger of a gun and target other black individuals, which collectively aggregate to being the only examples of gun violence in Asheville. Or for that matter, the state of North Carolina or the United States of America…

 
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  1. I live reasonably close to Asheville.My best friend lives in Asheville.Asheville is run by gray ponytail hippies,and “woke” White females.They are far more upset if you cut a bush on your property without city council permission, than if you are murdered by dindu.

  2. “You have to understand the history so the solution will not be seen as charity, because the solution will require a lot of resources, from people to money to infrastructure,” he says.

    I put this declaration through an online translator and it came out with “GIBS”

    “Gun violence isn’t just a Black-person thing, it’s not just a poor-person thing, it’s an everybody problem — you could get shot or robbed if you’ve been doing everything right in your life,” Thomas says.

    Oh trust us, Mr. Thomas. We know. We know all too well.

    • LOL: DMZABO
  3. ….”Negroes constitute ten percent of the population of New York City, and yet they commit thirty-five percent of the crime.

    St. Louis, Missouri: the Negroes constitute twenty-six percent of the population, and yet seventy-six percent of the persons on the list for aid to dependent children are Negroes.

    We have eight times more illegitimacy than white persons.

    We’ve got to face all of these things. We must work to improve these standards. We must sit down quietly by the wayside, and ask ourselves: “Where can we improve?” What are the things that white people are saying about us?

    They say that we want integration because we want to marry white people. Well, we know that is a falsehood. We know that. We don’t have to worry about that.

    Then on the other hand, they say some other things about us, and maybe there is some truth in them. Maybe we could be more sanitary; maybe we could be a little more clean. You may not have enough money to take a weekend trip to Paris, France, and buy all of the fascinating and enticing perfumes. You may not be able to do that, but you are not so poor that you cannot buy a five cents bar of soap (Yeah) so that you can wash before [word inaudible]. [applause]

    And another thing my friends, we kill each other too much. (All right, yes) We cut up each other too much. (Yes, Yes sir) There is something that we can do. We’ve got to go down in the quiet hour and think about this thing…. “

    Martin Luther King, 1957

  4. Welfare has supported a large percentage of the black population for decades. What we have to show for it more violence, more no father households, more drug use due to idleness, etc. Stop trying to paper this over with currency.

    The solution to crime is to kill the criminals. Take the proposed funds and redirect them to purchasing weapons for the white community and have the police dept train new shooters to take out the trash.

  5. All that money and other resources completely wasted. More “programs” on the way with some “revrunds”.
    11% is well above the threshold for dysfunction.

  6. Gun violence isn’t just a Black-person thing, it’s not just a poor-person thing, it’s an everybody problem — you could get shot or robbed if you’ve been doing everything right

    The above statement is a giant pile of crap. Gun violence is a negro thing, period. In every major city, town, or county that has an abundance of the mud people they, Negroes, are the problem. Even in small towns the usual suspects in violent crime are, negroes. The line “you could get shot or robbed if your doing everything right” is a slap in the face of every white person who has been victimized by feral negro beasts. Filling my car with gas, do I deserve to be carjacked at gunpoint by negroes? Working in a convenience store as a part time second job do I deserve to be robbed, beaten, shot, stabbed, murdered to satisfy the blood lust of some sub human negro? Do I deserve to be attacked at home or work by a violent negro for no other reason than said negro has no conscience, no moral code, no regrets? Did a little adopted white girl deserve to be beaten an tortured by her negro adoptive parents? Did the dozens of names and faces that have appeared on these pages deserve to die for no other reason that the negro who murdered them had a sub human intelligence and an in bred blood list? My rant is over, time to take blood pressure meds.

    • Replies: @Quaderricka
    @RickTen99

    When they say its an "everybody" problem what they mean is "its a problem for everyone" which it is.

    When they say its a poor people problem, what they mean its a "person who doesnt want to get a real job after their rap and sports careers didnt work out."

    Crimes committed by White people happen also. Its just that White people dont have that dumb ass "no snitches" bullshit. They also dont take the side of the criminals and make them heroes. When a White person committs a crime and he/she gets arrested/killed , it is a great day for all the rest of the community.

    The only thing I can think of to as why the media lies like this is maybe they believe the more they bullshit everyone the more we will be beat down accepting it for fact. That might work on these woke retards but real Americans know better. Whether or not we ever grow the balls to do something about it is a different story.

  7. I’m sure once these violent savage Negroes receive their reparations checks, they will then peacefully become productive members of society.

  8. It being Asheville, the folks whose ancestors founded the town are long since mostly pushed out.
    White Folks == New Age Touchy Feely Yankees.

  9. Asheville is the Liberal Hub of Western NC….
    A Blue dot, in a sea of Red…..
    Far as I have heard, the only place in the US
    that has so far voted to pay Reparations….
    Though, they put forth no plan how to finance or
    put together a list of who to pay…

    Pandering for the sake of Pandering…..

    • Replies: @Lancelot_Link
    @Resartus

    Ive always felt they should be paid in Confederate dollars. ;)

  10. “I’ve seeeen the promised land”.

    MLK Jr.

  11. I like the title. “Black-Person Thing”

    It’s like someone’s trying to describe blacks as people, but can’t do it in good conscience so they tack on punctuation and another word to warn the reader about a necessary lie.

    Personally, I’m in favor of referring to them as “the Dark Ones.” Tells you everything you need to know in an almost poetic way.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @Wyatt

    You need to be careful how you phrase it. We used to call them "Darkies", but that was racist. There's a world of difference, apparently, between "Coloured People" and "People of Colour". Maybe "People of Darkness" would be acceptable? "People of the Dark"?

    No use. There's no way to describe them that doesn't have negative connotations. In contrast, and despite recent attempts to make "whiteness" a curse, all the words to describe us have pleasant associations. White, as opposed to black. A white knight; a white wedding. A black day. Light, as opposed to dark.

    Have you ever considered the word "fair"? It has many meanings, all of them positive. As a noun, it's a celebration. As an adjective, it means just or equitable; also pale-complexioned; or beautiful. Fair weather, fair winds; it's all good.

    Is there a word with (any of) the opposite meanings that also has any pleasant connotations in all contexts?

  12. My theory is that American White culture is Apollinian. A general Right of Arms is a good fit for an Apollinian culture, butt a bad fit for a Dionysiac culture.

  13. You are right of course. Americans endure black bad behavior and that seems incredible. We have had solid scientific research that blacks are substantially different from whites since sixty nine. That’s 1869 not 1969. Galton published a paper on the low IQ’s of blacks in that year. Of course the concept of IQ didn’t even exist then. He used other language. Black lack of intelligence and violence had been commented on in traveler’s accounts as far back as there have been such accounts. That’s from at least New Kingdom Egypt.

    One common reaction by explorers first on encountering blacks in Africa is mistaking them for a form of chimpanzees. Let me remind you that chimps are not just stupid compared to people, they are also nasty. For example there have been seven authenticate cases of pet chimps killing and eating the human infants of their owners. In the wild chimps hunt and eat monkeys, and a human baby, it seems, looks like a chubby and delicious kind of monkey.

    We have all seen cute comical chimps on TV and the movies like J. Fred Muggs on the Today program or Tarzan’s Cheetah. Those cute little animal comedians were all quite young. Grown chimps are vicious, murderous and cunning. No one realized this except a few white explorers and native blacks. But not only are adult chimps many times stronger than a human but they make plots and lay traps. If you want a pet, get something safer like a Pit Bull or a leopard.

    The point is simple. Blacks are not chimps but we are descended from chimps – not the much more docile Bonobo. And violence seems to have been greater in early man. It is certainly more prevalent is the remnant hunter/gatherer populations that still exist in various jungles. Black Africans are only about 50,000 to 80,000 years less evolved than Whites and Asians whereas we split from chimps 7,000,000 years ago. But those few thousand years saw great strides in the emergence of bigger brains and lowered violence.

    All the readers know most of this although almost no one understood chimps until Jane Goodall went to Africa.

    I’m off topic. I meant to write something about the causes of our strange reluctance to accept the reality of racial differences. Maybe tomorrow.

    • Thanks: mark green
    • Replies: @Peg B
    @Patrick Boyle

    Why are you so mad?
    Six angry sneering paragraphs and no solution. If you are white, where's the intelligence in that?

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Patrick Boyle

    , @Bite Moi
    @Patrick Boyle

    Patrick Boyle-------Walt Disney gave the American culture the humanization of animals. However,any adult with common sense should recognize that wild animals aren't your pet dog or cat. One of my rather well to do cousins nearly lost his left arm feeding hot dogs to a black bear on the main highway of the Great Smokey Mountains national park.Amazingly he did learn from that experience at the cost of only 2 fingers and a dislocated left shoulder. His wife,on the other hand,is still part of a White church's outreach program to help inner city "yoofs".-----------and yes,they are from New Jersey.

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    , @Bert
    @Patrick Boyle


    The point is simple. Blacks are not chimps but we are descended from chimps – not the much more docile Bonobo.

    Black Africans are only about 50,000 to 80,000 years less evolved than Whites and Asians whereas we split from chimps 7,000,000 years ago.
     
    You are correct about the 7 million year before present date for the clade divergence of bipedal Australopithecines from quadrupedal apes, but wrong about our being descended from Pan troglodytes rather than Pan paniscus. The speciation event within the genus Pan occurred 5 million years after Australopithecines arose. When our clade arose, there were not two species of Pan. See link below.


    https://theconversation.com/revealed-the-ancient-genetic-link-between-chimpanzees-and-bonobos-67760#:~:text=Between%201.5%20and%202%20million,and%20more%20slender%20than%20chimpanzees.

    Replies: @Trevor

  14. From redlining to predatory lending; from the era of mass incarceration to the enormous achievement gap between Black and white students enrolled in Asheville City Schools, gun violence cannot be solved without understanding the history of racism that drove many Black communities into poverty, Thomas argues. “You have to understand the history so the solution will not be seen as charity, because the solution will require a lot of resources, from people to money to infrastructure,” he says.

    Wide Area Aerial Surveillance can be done with drones, high-speed connections, and mobile servers. After one week of recording, a decent team of investigators could easily develop probable cause for many of their criminal cases simply by tracking the movements of vehicles connected with the shootings. Social media accounts, already tracked for what gets posted and where its posted, also lend intelligence prior to structured engagements, and shooting aftermaths for the spontaneous ones also provide a focus for retroactive investigations of those —the same underlying principle for WAAS being successful at seeing the Bigger Picture of homicide waves.

    There are already technological means for eliminating crimes, especially since many of these shootings are done from vehicles. Following the vehicles, coordinating their locations across the city, and deeper relationships between impulse crimes and organized crime —and with nation-state intelligence operations— will appear.

    In fact, WAAS is something private corporations do, selling access to its databases of collected information not only to local municipalities who will benefit from more effective policing but also nation-states and transnational corporations.

    Mentoring children and after-school sports work in a culture where the passing of wisdom from elder to youth is honored and valued. In this unrestricted/multidimensional war currently engaging US cities, those social programs might not be as effective as accepting that criminal enterprise is one modality for a pervasive and total war. Combining these approaches, of course, is an even better option. The best option, though, is to stop making children and leave the planet to itself.

  15. The enormous achievement gap between Black! and white students is totally because of white racism and white supremacy. I’m sure it has nothing to do with genetics.

  16. A “justice services manager”.

    Really.

    The government should be prohibited from accepting donations, seeking grants for itself, etc.

    Calls to defund the police (and the schools!) are perfectly justified. Huge percentages of bureaucratic budgets go to items such as pensions, benefits, and sinecures (political jobs) for friends (think “grant manager”).

    If the police budget were reduced by 90%, the level of real police services (e.g. arrest of bad guys) would not have to suffer.

  17. I lived in greater Boston in early 197in 0s, shuttling between apartments in Cambridge just blocks from Harvard, and a black neighborhood Dorchester just a block or two from Franklin Zoo. I’d grown up in the Midwest and got to compare cultures, and black American culture is different that white For starters, American culture.

    Young back women often dressed beautifully, especially compared to young white women like me; I prefered blue jeans or bell-bottoms and T shirts.

    When in Dorchester, I lived with a black family and we all knew to stay away from windows for fear of getting shot. I followed the example of black women in the neighborhood, walking in the street rather than on the sidewalk, where an attacker could be hidden in a doorway. To get around I took the bus or hitch hiked for lack of a car, so I met lots of people, all races.

    I didn’t notice a difference in intelligence, but I did notice a difference in cultures. For one thing, black American culture is a matriarchy, with many male children having to find out how to be a man without a strong supportive male to emulate. The women I met tended to be rough with their children, using angry name-calling , blaming and put-downs and swats to discipline, and failing to praise good behavior. Black moms do not spoil their children!

    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer – violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.

    When I became a parent I learned that praising good behavior is the best disciplinary tool there is. And being supportive of the good stuff rather than prolonged screaming about the bad , and listening and reflecting back what was said, paves the way to sane, peaceful outcomes. The parenting principles demonstrated in the book, How to Talk So Children Will Listen, and Listen so Children Will Talk, should be taught to kids (and teachers and parents) from preschool on. But adults can learn too. It’s just way harder.

    To solve problems of violence, teach supportive behavior at all levels, and stop throwing money. Thank you for listening.

    • LOL: WSG
    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @Peg B


    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer – violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.
     
    Of course! It's so obvious! Why did nobody ever think of this before?

    All that TNB? They get it from us! It's all our fault.

    Replies: @Peg B

    , @CDebussey
    @Peg B

    I'm sorry, I thought we were all segregated back then, or so I was told. That's the reason the disaster of desegregation and forced busing was rammed down our throats. All but one of the schools I went to in Cleveland Oh are closed now thanks to the increase in blacks and Hispanics that all but forced whites to flee to the suburbs (racist of course) for the sake of their children's lives. To say this,


    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer – violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.
     
    which I had to read twice and try to decide if you were being sarcastic or there was some sort of context I was missed. I was stunned to say the least. For anyone that can take a realistic look and come to the conclusion that inner city African's that live off the system and detest America and it's culture are not regressing at an alarming rate are either blind, stupid or both. Everything is now on the table to be labeled as racist, including being asked to show your work in math class. I weep for white people having kids today trying to imagine what fresh hellish mandates will be forced on them in the next 30 years. The lie that blacks are all victims of white society regardless of the riches they acquire has got to be the most sanctimonious load of dung that's ever been sold by the scum on the left in this country. The sooner whitey comes to the obvious conclusion that there's no light at the end of this tunnel, the sooner we can start coming to terms with what actually needs to happen. Diversity is not a strength, it's a nation killer.
  18. @Patrick Boyle
    You are right of course. Americans endure black bad behavior and that seems incredible. We have had solid scientific research that blacks are substantially different from whites since sixty nine. That's 1869 not 1969. Galton published a paper on the low IQ's of blacks in that year. Of course the concept of IQ didn't even exist then. He used other language. Black lack of intelligence and violence had been commented on in traveler's accounts as far back as there have been such accounts. That's from at least New Kingdom Egypt.

    One common reaction by explorers first on encountering blacks in Africa is mistaking them for a form of chimpanzees. Let me remind you that chimps are not just stupid compared to people, they are also nasty. For example there have been seven authenticate cases of pet chimps killing and eating the human infants of their owners. In the wild chimps hunt and eat monkeys, and a human baby, it seems, looks like a chubby and delicious kind of monkey.

    We have all seen cute comical chimps on TV and the movies like J. Fred Muggs on the Today program or Tarzan's Cheetah. Those cute little animal comedians were all quite young. Grown chimps are vicious, murderous and cunning. No one realized this except a few white explorers and native blacks. But not only are adult chimps many times stronger than a human but they make plots and lay traps. If you want a pet, get something safer like a Pit Bull or a leopard.

    The point is simple. Blacks are not chimps but we are descended from chimps - not the much more docile Bonobo. And violence seems to have been greater in early man. It is certainly more prevalent is the remnant hunter/gatherer populations that still exist in various jungles. Black Africans are only about 50,000 to 80,000 years less evolved than Whites and Asians whereas we split from chimps 7,000,000 years ago. But those few thousand years saw great strides in the emergence of bigger brains and lowered violence.

    All the readers know most of this although almost no one understood chimps until Jane Goodall went to Africa.

    I'm off topic. I meant to write something about the causes of our strange reluctance to accept the reality of racial differences. Maybe tomorrow.

    Replies: @Peg B, @Bite Moi, @Bert

    Why are you so mad?
    Six angry sneering paragraphs and no solution. If you are white, where’s the intelligence in that?

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @Peg B

    In six paragraphs you want not just a problem definition, but a solution to a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution? Aren't you being a bit unreasonable?

    Maybe I'm just being dense. Would you care to show how it's done?

    Or was that your solution in your previous comment? "Teach the children"? How old are you?

    Replies: @Peg B

    , @Patrick Boyle
    @Peg B

    I'm not mad and I'm not Woke. I try to be rational and make my own choices. For example when I was 19 I decided to not let some nameless disk jockey make my choices in music. I stopped listening to pop music with the Beatles. I was once the ultimate basketball fan. But I quit cold turkey by choice. Never saw Michael Jordan play even on TV.

    I had been a Democrat like everyone I knew, but I changed again after I had a flirtation with radical politics. I like to make my own choices. I don't like to be manipulated.

    I looked at the various public controversies, troubles and misapprehensions and decided that the current race issues were the most screwed up. I knew a lot a blacks. I lived in the Washington DC black ghetto. I knew blacks at work, in music, and in the neighborhood. But the public political attitudes about race seemed very far from reality. I decided to look into the issue.

    I am not racially prejudiced in the sense that I have not pre judged or inherited my opinions. I arrived at my stance on racial matters by decisions I made and things I learned. As much as that is possible.

    I actually have proposed some solutions. Check my comments record. You however seem to avoid dealing with the issues I raise and indulge in ad hominem attacks. Typical.

  19. Black gun violence can’t be blamed on redlining, predatory lending, mass incarceration, the racial gap in learning/education or poverty, but simply on black individuals deciding to pull the trigger

    Oh, but it can, reasonably so. Correlation vs causation and all that… If you know of any studies of gun violence that convincingly remove these variables please let me know! I seriously would like to see them.

    For example, is there a study across comparable income brackets? Gun violence among low income blacks vs gun violence among low income whites? Even more importantly, middle-class blacks vs middle-class whites? Educated blacks vs educated whites?

    Show me such data and I will be convinced. But in its absence there is always the possibility that economic factors are more significant than any genetic inclination.

    • Replies: @mark green
    @raga10

    I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but in total numbers, there are more poor (below the poverty line) Whites living in America than impoverished Blacks. Yet Blacks commit far more homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than Whites or any other racial group. These correlations are consistent, revealing, and significant. They also cross all educational and income levels. American Renaissance covers this subject very thoroughly.

    If not for the imposition of modern taboos involving race (which are designed to protect the American negro while promoting black/white miscegenation), Americans would be hip to these disturbing facts, the liars who suppress them, and the imminent social dangers that they foster.

    Replies: @Peg B

    , @ChiTown Madness
    @raga10

    Explain why all the millionaire athletes are getting caught up in the violence

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.

    Replies: @raga10

  20. Quotes Jackie Latek:

    “What we’re doing here is taking existing programs that have evidence and research behind them that have worked”

    OK, Jackie, surprise me! Please list the programs that have “worked” in descending chronological order…

  21. “My Daddy Taught Me That” community organization. You can’t this shit up. There is no helping these things.

  22. I’ve been to Asheville. I saw once-stately buildings in the downtown area, such as old banks and department stores, that had since been converted to lesser uses by the hipsters now occupying the city. They reminded me of rats living among the remains of a dead city in a post-nuclear war world. Clearly civilization was taking a big step back.

    Slightly OT: Her name was Danielle Hopton.

    Hate crime? Teen girl beaten to death – ex-boyfriend and alleged accomplice arrested
    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/hate-crime-teen-girl-beaten-to-death-ex-boyfriend-and-alleged-accomplice-arrested/

    Open the article and you’ll see the picture of a very attractive young woman next to two ugly toads. I’ll never understand the female urge to seek the company of “bad boys.” They’re not so much fun when they slap you around, hit you up for lots of money, give you STDs from other women they’re seeing at the same time, make you pregnant, and (if you’re lucky) just leave you for another gullible young woman. Worst case scenario — you end up dead like this girl.

    I don’t wish to pile criticism upon the victim but it has been proven yet again: burn the coal, pay the toll. Instead of harping endlessly on how foolish she was to be with this dangerous toad, take the time to counsel a friend, family member or acquaintance by telling her about this incident and cautioning her not to become the next Danielle Hopton. You might be the person who saves a life.

    • Replies: @Hannibal Smith
    @Piglet

    If you look up her obituary, her parents did call out her being exceptionally naive and thinking she could change everyone.

    Too little, too late.

    Replies: @Piglet

    , @PO'd in PG County
    @Piglet

    And, just to skew the statistics a bit, watch those two murderers get classified as "White" faster than you can say "George Zimmerman."

  23. I had a long phone call with my dear friend – Sam – today. He left California to go to Texas last year. I sent him a long shopping list of items to survive blackouts. He spent three days freezing in the dark, and it isn’t over yet.

    Freezing in Texas? I was in Texas when I was in the army. Guys would fall over in the street from the heat. They would just pass out. All winter the troops would fear the coming of summer. Of course it was actually hotter at Camp Roberts in California than it gets almost anywhere else – hotter than Texas, hotter than Florida. More like the surface of Mercury. That’s why I settled in San Francisco. Fog is good.

    Preparing for earthquakes also prepares you for Democrat government induced blackouts. Get a Running Snail radio.

    Freezing in Texas? It’s enough to shake your faith in Global Warming.

  24. Social Media seems to be getting more arrogant under the Biden administration. I got a comment on my old Tuskegee Airman video. It was nasty and viciously ad hominem. I was crafting a polite defense when Youtube suddenly – in real time – cancelled my response while I was typing it.

    They seem to not just reviewing things I’ve published. They seem to be monitoring what I type as I type it. Real time censorship? This seems impossible. How expensive would that be? This has happened once before, but I thought I had to have been mistaken. I’ve never posted a video that has gotten very many hits. I’m not a major player.

  25. You are a bigger censor than Facebook. No wonder only 6 comments.

  26. Buncombe County’s Justice Resource Advisory Council passed a proclamation declaring racism Blacks a public safety emergency menace in July.

    FIXED.

  27. @Piglet
    I've been to Asheville. I saw once-stately buildings in the downtown area, such as old banks and department stores, that had since been converted to lesser uses by the hipsters now occupying the city. They reminded me of rats living among the remains of a dead city in a post-nuclear war world. Clearly civilization was taking a big step back.

    Slightly OT: Her name was Danielle Hopton.

    Hate crime? Teen girl beaten to death – ex-boyfriend and alleged accomplice arrested
    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/hate-crime-teen-girl-beaten-to-death-ex-boyfriend-and-alleged-accomplice-arrested/

    Open the article and you'll see the picture of a very attractive young woman next to two ugly toads. I'll never understand the female urge to seek the company of "bad boys." They're not so much fun when they slap you around, hit you up for lots of money, give you STDs from other women they're seeing at the same time, make you pregnant, and (if you're lucky) just leave you for another gullible young woman. Worst case scenario -- you end up dead like this girl.

    I don't wish to pile criticism upon the victim but it has been proven yet again: burn the coal, pay the toll. Instead of harping endlessly on how foolish she was to be with this dangerous toad, take the time to counsel a friend, family member or acquaintance by telling her about this incident and cautioning her not to become the next Danielle Hopton. You might be the person who saves a life.

    Replies: @Hannibal Smith, @PO'd in PG County

    If you look up her obituary, her parents did call out her being exceptionally naive and thinking she could change everyone.

    Too little, too late.

    • Replies: @Piglet
    @Hannibal Smith


    If you look up her obituary, her parents did call out her being exceptionally naive and thinking she could change everyone.
     
    This is a trait I've seen in many women, and years Dr. Laura Schlessinger talked about it on her radio show. Many women, seeing themselves as angels saving the wayward, feel compelled to turn around bad people, whether they're criminals, gamblers, drunks, druggies, whatever. Dr. Laura strongly advised against it, saying that trying to change a bad person's ways would not be successful and would only generate resentment at the very least. Getting beat up or worse was a definite possibility.

    On a regular basis this advice is proven correct, and there will be more such women in future news stories.

    Replies: @Bite Moi, @Raccoon

  28. @Wyatt
    I like the title. "Black-Person Thing"

    It's like someone's trying to describe blacks as people, but can't do it in good conscience so they tack on punctuation and another word to warn the reader about a necessary lie.

    Personally, I'm in favor of referring to them as "the Dark Ones." Tells you everything you need to know in an almost poetic way.

    Replies: @AnalogMan

    You need to be careful how you phrase it. We used to call them “Darkies”, but that was racist. There’s a world of difference, apparently, between “Coloured People” and “People of Colour”. Maybe “People of Darkness” would be acceptable? “People of the Dark”?

    No use. There’s no way to describe them that doesn’t have negative connotations. In contrast, and despite recent attempts to make “whiteness” a curse, all the words to describe us have pleasant associations. White, as opposed to black. A white knight; a white wedding. A black day. Light, as opposed to dark.

    Have you ever considered the word “fair”? It has many meanings, all of them positive. As a noun, it’s a celebration. As an adjective, it means just or equitable; also pale-complexioned; or beautiful. Fair weather, fair winds; it’s all good.

    Is there a word with (any of) the opposite meanings that also has any pleasant connotations in all contexts?

  29. @Peg B
    I lived in greater Boston in early 197in 0s, shuttling between apartments in Cambridge just blocks from Harvard, and a black neighborhood Dorchester just a block or two from Franklin Zoo. I'd grown up in the Midwest and got to compare cultures, and black American culture is different that white For starters, American culture.

    Young back women often dressed beautifully, especially compared to young white women like me; I prefered blue jeans or bell-bottoms and T shirts.

    When in Dorchester, I lived with a black family and we all knew to stay away from windows for fear of getting shot. I followed the example of black women in the neighborhood, walking in the street rather than on the sidewalk, where an attacker could be hidden in a doorway. To get around I took the bus or hitch hiked for lack of a car, so I met lots of people, all races.

    I didn't notice a difference in intelligence, but I did notice a difference in cultures. For one thing, black American culture is a matriarchy, with many male children having to find out how to be a man without a strong supportive male to emulate. The women I met tended to be rough with their children, using angry name-calling , blaming and put-downs and swats to discipline, and failing to praise good behavior. Black moms do not spoil their children!

    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer - violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.

    When I became a parent I learned that praising good behavior is the best disciplinary tool there is. And being supportive of the good stuff rather than prolonged screaming about the bad , and listening and reflecting back what was said, paves the way to sane, peaceful outcomes. The parenting principles demonstrated in the book, How to Talk So Children Will Listen, and Listen so Children Will Talk, should be taught to kids (and teachers and parents) from preschool on. But adults can learn too. It's just way harder.

    To solve problems of violence, teach supportive behavior at all levels, and stop throwing money. Thank you for listening.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @CDebussey

    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer – violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.

    Of course! It’s so obvious! Why did nobody ever think of this before?

    All that TNB? They get it from us! It’s all our fault.

    • LOL: Non PC Infidel
    • Replies: @Peg B
    @AnalogMan

    Well, where else?
    Where do we, too, get it?
    What about white on white murder, theft, rape, assaults?
    About the constant blame thing - where do you get that? Parents?
    Doesn't matter what race - or culture - or mix of - you are, constantly blaming and finger pointing comes off as thought arrested adolescent. Doesn't mean it's not partly true, but it is whining.

    Replies: @CDebussey

  30. @Peg B
    @Patrick Boyle

    Why are you so mad?
    Six angry sneering paragraphs and no solution. If you are white, where's the intelligence in that?

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Patrick Boyle

    In six paragraphs you want not just a problem definition, but a solution to a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution? Aren’t you being a bit unreasonable?

    Maybe I’m just being dense. Would you care to show how it’s done?

    Or was that your solution in your previous comment? “Teach the children”? How old are you?

    • Replies: @Peg B
    @AnalogMan

    What planet are you from - "a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution"?
    So you flunked science, geography and history as well? Not to mention current events.
    I don't see the point of six paragraphs of untethered ranting. If that was your sole point, you nailed it.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Mr. Rational

  31. @raga10

    Black gun violence can’t be blamed on redlining, predatory lending, mass incarceration, the racial gap in learning/education or poverty, but simply on black individuals deciding to pull the trigger
     
    Oh, but it can, reasonably so. Correlation vs causation and all that... If you know of any studies of gun violence that convincingly remove these variables please let me know! I seriously would like to see them.

    For example, is there a study across comparable income brackets? Gun violence among low income blacks vs gun violence among low income whites? Even more importantly, middle-class blacks vs middle-class whites? Educated blacks vs educated whites?

    Show me such data and I will be convinced. But in its absence there is always the possibility that economic factors are more significant than any genetic inclination.

    Replies: @mark green, @ChiTown Madness, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I don’t have the exact stats in front of me, but in total numbers, there are more poor (below the poverty line) Whites living in America than impoverished Blacks. Yet Blacks commit far more homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than Whites or any other racial group. These correlations are consistent, revealing, and significant. They also cross all educational and income levels. American Renaissance covers this subject very thoroughly.

    If not for the imposition of modern taboos involving race (which are designed to protect the American negro while promoting black/white miscegenation), Americans would be hip to these disturbing facts, the liars who suppress them, and the imminent social dangers that they foster.

    • Agree: Non PC Infidel
    • Replies: @Peg B
    @mark green

    Well I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but it seems to me that male humans overwhelmingly commit far more wars, bombings, homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than any other gender.
    This site is really interesting but it - and events and the government, too - often seems geared to making or keeping people angry, paranoid and divided on issues rather than solving problems.

    Divided we are easy pickings. Which must be the assignment.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Bite Moi

  32. @Piglet
    I've been to Asheville. I saw once-stately buildings in the downtown area, such as old banks and department stores, that had since been converted to lesser uses by the hipsters now occupying the city. They reminded me of rats living among the remains of a dead city in a post-nuclear war world. Clearly civilization was taking a big step back.

    Slightly OT: Her name was Danielle Hopton.

    Hate crime? Teen girl beaten to death – ex-boyfriend and alleged accomplice arrested
    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/hate-crime-teen-girl-beaten-to-death-ex-boyfriend-and-alleged-accomplice-arrested/

    Open the article and you'll see the picture of a very attractive young woman next to two ugly toads. I'll never understand the female urge to seek the company of "bad boys." They're not so much fun when they slap you around, hit you up for lots of money, give you STDs from other women they're seeing at the same time, make you pregnant, and (if you're lucky) just leave you for another gullible young woman. Worst case scenario -- you end up dead like this girl.

    I don't wish to pile criticism upon the victim but it has been proven yet again: burn the coal, pay the toll. Instead of harping endlessly on how foolish she was to be with this dangerous toad, take the time to counsel a friend, family member or acquaintance by telling her about this incident and cautioning her not to become the next Danielle Hopton. You might be the person who saves a life.

    Replies: @Hannibal Smith, @PO'd in PG County

    And, just to skew the statistics a bit, watch those two murderers get classified as “White” faster than you can say “George Zimmerman.”

  33. In the past two weeks in my city (Knoxville, TN) three black teenagers have been shot and killed by other black teenagers. The “community” is all upset and all the usual politicians and members of the “community” are babbling about how something needs to be done. The same scenario that has played out in a thousand cities a thousand times across this country in the ever vibrant hoods of the nation. So, hearing about Asheville and black gun violence there is no surprise at all. It’s actually very predictable as are all the supposed solutions which are never effective and never make a difference. The beat goes on…or should I say the drum beat?

  34. I am almost 60 years old and it is mind boggling the amount of ” White” people with this mentality of making every excuse possible for POC. Can they not see how condescending a mentality that is. Treating POC as children that are incapable of self discipline and moral capacity. These sanctimonious , self righteous “White” saviors will be the ones ushering in the extinction of the White Race. Once the evil White no longer exists , which POC will take up the baton of equity among the remaining races? Equity will go extinct with the last White person. These are ridiculous times in which to live.

    • Agree: Raccoon
  35. @Hannibal Smith
    @Piglet

    If you look up her obituary, her parents did call out her being exceptionally naive and thinking she could change everyone.

    Too little, too late.

    Replies: @Piglet

    If you look up her obituary, her parents did call out her being exceptionally naive and thinking she could change everyone.

    This is a trait I’ve seen in many women, and years Dr. Laura Schlessinger talked about it on her radio show. Many women, seeing themselves as angels saving the wayward, feel compelled to turn around bad people, whether they’re criminals, gamblers, drunks, druggies, whatever. Dr. Laura strongly advised against it, saying that trying to change a bad person’s ways would not be successful and would only generate resentment at the very least. Getting beat up or worse was a definite possibility.

    On a regular basis this advice is proven correct, and there will be more such women in future news stories.

    • Agree: Raccoon
    • Replies: @Bite Moi
    @Piglet

    Piglet------Women tend to stumble through life because they emote rather than think. This is why they find themselves with "unplanned" and "unexpected" pregnancies,3 children and no husband,married to their 4th alcoholic or abuser,etc. Their poor choices are never their fault.Somebody else was driving the bus. Traditional cultures solved this problem by marrying them off by age 15.

    , @Raccoon
    @Piglet

    Your observation (and Bite Moi's reply comment) are totally correct. Women "feel" - i.e. they "emote".

    Women are almost inevitably incapable of rational thought - there is a surprisingly small percentage you meet who do comport themselves as rational humans, but these are few and far between.

    The most significant sociopolitical error made in the last 120 years has been universal suffrage. This way lies disaster.

    Replies: @Bite Moi

  36. @raga10

    Black gun violence can’t be blamed on redlining, predatory lending, mass incarceration, the racial gap in learning/education or poverty, but simply on black individuals deciding to pull the trigger
     
    Oh, but it can, reasonably so. Correlation vs causation and all that... If you know of any studies of gun violence that convincingly remove these variables please let me know! I seriously would like to see them.

    For example, is there a study across comparable income brackets? Gun violence among low income blacks vs gun violence among low income whites? Even more importantly, middle-class blacks vs middle-class whites? Educated blacks vs educated whites?

    Show me such data and I will be convinced. But in its absence there is always the possibility that economic factors are more significant than any genetic inclination.

    Replies: @mark green, @ChiTown Madness, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Explain why all the millionaire athletes are getting caught up in the violence

  37. @Peg B
    @Patrick Boyle

    Why are you so mad?
    Six angry sneering paragraphs and no solution. If you are white, where's the intelligence in that?

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Patrick Boyle

    I’m not mad and I’m not Woke. I try to be rational and make my own choices. For example when I was 19 I decided to not let some nameless disk jockey make my choices in music. I stopped listening to pop music with the Beatles. I was once the ultimate basketball fan. But I quit cold turkey by choice. Never saw Michael Jordan play even on TV.

    I had been a Democrat like everyone I knew, but I changed again after I had a flirtation with radical politics. I like to make my own choices. I don’t like to be manipulated.

    I looked at the various public controversies, troubles and misapprehensions and decided that the current race issues were the most screwed up. I knew a lot a blacks. I lived in the Washington DC black ghetto. I knew blacks at work, in music, and in the neighborhood. But the public political attitudes about race seemed very far from reality. I decided to look into the issue.

    I am not racially prejudiced in the sense that I have not pre judged or inherited my opinions. I arrived at my stance on racial matters by decisions I made and things I learned. As much as that is possible.

    I actually have proposed some solutions. Check my comments record. You however seem to avoid dealing with the issues I raise and indulge in ad hominem attacks. Typical.

    • Agree: Oil 'n Water
  38. @raga10

    Black gun violence can’t be blamed on redlining, predatory lending, mass incarceration, the racial gap in learning/education or poverty, but simply on black individuals deciding to pull the trigger
     
    Oh, but it can, reasonably so. Correlation vs causation and all that... If you know of any studies of gun violence that convincingly remove these variables please let me know! I seriously would like to see them.

    For example, is there a study across comparable income brackets? Gun violence among low income blacks vs gun violence among low income whites? Even more importantly, middle-class blacks vs middle-class whites? Educated blacks vs educated whites?

    Show me such data and I will be convinced. But in its absence there is always the possibility that economic factors are more significant than any genetic inclination.

    Replies: @mark green, @ChiTown Madness, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.

    • Replies: @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.
     
    He who makes a claim should provide supporting evidence! I am not the one saying that "gun violence is a black-person thing", nor am I attempting to refute that statement. What I am saying is that to accept it I would need to see solid and unbiased data, a serious attempt to understand the factors involved. Instead what I see in such discussions is usually just few cherry-picked bits that back up poster's political talking points.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Bite Moi, @Detroit Refugee

  39. Anon[287] • Disclaimer says:

    This violence is brought by the drug trade. We know who the drug cartels are South of the Border. We know who leads them. We know the governments are part of the trade.

    We know who the street dealers in the US are. They are primarily those in the black community. Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.

    What is not discussed is the missing link. Who are the American drug cartels? Who is taking the incoming shipments from Latin America and distributing it into specifically black ghettos? Unfortunately it is unlikely to be any different than Mexico and other Latin countries. At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement. No question there is banking involvement, as banks like HSBC and Deutsch Bank regularly pay fines for laundering almost as a cost of doing business while never held criminally accountable. And there’s no question the US targets some cartels and leaves others alone. Arrested cartel officials have explained all of that. Extrapolating from the Contra days, we can assume that our intelligence agencies are still involved with directly importing drugs to target neighborhoods and/or acquiescing as favored gangs do so as to maintain a more hands-off approach.

    Until the US Drug Cartels are exposed (and that includes US Government involvement) the gun violence at the terminal side of the drug trade will never stop. Sure, it’s black neighborhoods, but they could just as easily target GOP neighborhoods for example. Wherever there is a drug supply there will be a drug problem. And wherever there is drug trade there is gun violence.

    • Replies: @Piglet
    @Anon


    Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.
     
    I think you meant to type that the US was supporting the Contras against the Sandinista government. In El Salvador it was against the rebels and supported the government.

    You may recall that Congress cut off funding for the Reagan administration's secret CIA war against Nicaragua so the spooks found what might be called "non-appropriated funding" through drugs. When I first read that our own government was involved I thought that was completely nuts, but later I learned that it was true.

    I recall an article years ago about military whistleblowers and a place they went to decompress. One person profiled in the article was a former air traffic controller at an air base in Florida and he learned that drug shipments were being flown in when the base radar system was being taken down "for maintenance." He tried to report what was going on but ended up only destroying his own career. People think they're doing the right thing and they might even be rewarded, but eventually they discover that the rot goes deep and big money has a way of corrupting people in the government and, yes, the military too. Putting on a government-issued costume doesn't make an angel out of anyone. In the meantime, those who tried to do the right thing find their careers are destroyed, they're financially ruined, their marriages collapse under the stress, and they may have to go into hiding indefinitely. When people say "go along to get along" they're not kidding. Look at what happens to those who don't.

    At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement.
     
    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago, and he and his legal team produced a letter from the US Department of Justice stating that he and his business would not be molested in any way by US authorities. The prosecution was rather perplexed because the letter was genuine, so where to go from there? I never did read how that turned out.

    Whenever there is a story about a big drug bust, law enforcement gives itself credit for hard work, but what is more likely taking place is that organizations such as the Sinaloa cartel are giving tips to LE, which benefits everyone. It gets rid of the cartel's competition in a legal fashion and it allows LE to pat itself on the back in the public's eye, everybody's happy and the drugs keep flowing in. No matter how big a drug bust is, you never read that dope users are unable to buy drugs, that there's a shortage anywhere.

    And it's not just ghetto blacks who are users. Drugs are everywhere, often right under our noses, so to speak. When I was in the Army in the 1970s I was one of the only GIs in my barracks who was not injecting or smoking dope. When I got out and went back to college on my (then, not now) mostly white campus, I was again one of the only people not doing drugs. This was in a prosperous, well-to-do area so students had more money to spend on drugs. In my last job before retiring I noticed widespread usage by people in the company, including upper level management. Perhaps those snorts of coke gave them the mental edge they thought they needed?

    As long as Americans have a massive and insatiable appetite for drugs, our current situation will continue.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Resartus, @anarchyst, @Female in FL

  40. @AnalogMan
    @Peg B


    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer – violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.
     
    Of course! It's so obvious! Why did nobody ever think of this before?

    All that TNB? They get it from us! It's all our fault.

    Replies: @Peg B

    Well, where else?
    Where do we, too, get it?
    What about white on white murder, theft, rape, assaults?
    About the constant blame thing – where do you get that? Parents?
    Doesn’t matter what race – or culture – or mix of – you are, constantly blaming and finger pointing comes off as thought arrested adolescent. Doesn’t mean it’s not partly true, but it is whining.

    • Replies: @CDebussey
    @Peg B

    For those still confused about the color of murder in the US.

  41. @mark green
    @raga10

    I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but in total numbers, there are more poor (below the poverty line) Whites living in America than impoverished Blacks. Yet Blacks commit far more homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than Whites or any other racial group. These correlations are consistent, revealing, and significant. They also cross all educational and income levels. American Renaissance covers this subject very thoroughly.

    If not for the imposition of modern taboos involving race (which are designed to protect the American negro while promoting black/white miscegenation), Americans would be hip to these disturbing facts, the liars who suppress them, and the imminent social dangers that they foster.

    Replies: @Peg B

    Well I don’t have the exact stats in front of me, but it seems to me that male humans overwhelmingly commit far more wars, bombings, homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than any other gender.
    This site is really interesting but it – and events and the government, too – often seems geared to making or keeping people angry, paranoid and divided on issues rather than solving problems.

    Divided we are easy pickings. Which must be the assignment.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @Peg B


    male humans overwhelmingly commit far more wars, bombings, homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than any other gender (sic).
     
    Almost there. You need to go just a little further and acknowledge that the phenomenon you speak of is not gender, but sex. Gender is a grammatical construct. Words have gender (masculine, feminine, neuter). Sex (male, female), like race, is a biological reality; and both have implications for behaviour. When you have accepted that, you will be, like me, a proud racist and sexist. It's not hard.

    making or keeping people angry, paranoid and divided on issues rather than solving problems.
     
    Silly child, do you still not get it? Division is the solution.

    Back in South Africa, we called it Apartheid, or separation. Under pressure from you more enlightened people, we forsook our evil ways and achieved Salvation; and all it cost us was South Africa. A small price to pay for acceptance. South Africa is so much better now.

    We here on this blog have no desire for unity with the evolutionary dead-ends, the Babuntu*. We don't want to live with them, we most definitely don't want to degrade our progeny with their inferior DNA.

    * That's what's called a portmanteau word. I coined it myself. Such words contain parts of two or more other words, like a suitcase. Examples are smog, or infotainment. This one is derived from Bantu, meaning people, and ubuntu, or the spirit of humanity; hence, the people of Ubuntu. The fact that it is pronounced "Baboon-too" is neither here nor there.

    Replies: @Oil 'n Water

    , @Bite Moi
    @Peg B

    Peg B---------You also have women egging on wars while shaming the men if they are not enthusiastic about risking their lives.Women pushed hard for the right to vote,but demanded to be exempt from the nation's wars.Just another "rights" without responsibilities moment.

  42. @AnalogMan
    @Peg B

    In six paragraphs you want not just a problem definition, but a solution to a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution? Aren't you being a bit unreasonable?

    Maybe I'm just being dense. Would you care to show how it's done?

    Or was that your solution in your previous comment? "Teach the children"? How old are you?

    Replies: @Peg B

    What planet are you from – “a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution”?
    So you flunked science, geography and history as well? Not to mention current events.
    I don’t see the point of six paragraphs of untethered ranting. If that was your sole point, you nailed it.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @Peg B

    Look, it's simple. Evolution is a continuous process. It is driven by random mutations, but also by genetic drift between species. It's been going on since the birth of life on earth. Many millions of years.

    Even if you accept the Out of Africa theory as fact (I don't), modern genetic science proves that Africans do not have the same genetic history as other races. They have traces of genes inherited from at least one, possibly more ghost species; species that are now extinct and otherwise unknown. The evolution of those species is part of their evolution, too. Likewise with us and Neanderthals. How many millions of years of evolution? How many other extinct species?

    We are not the same.

    , @Mr. Rational
    @Peg B


    What planet are you from – “a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution”?
    So you flunked science, geography and history as well? Not to mention current events.

     
    He's right, you're wrong.

    The evidence available today favors a "back-into-Africa" model, where Homo sapiens sapiens developed many of our distinctive traits in Europe and Asia and then came back.  Sub-Saharan Africans carry genetic traces of "ghost populations" for which no fossils or other DNA have been found, and those "ghosts" could easily have separated from the main line over a million years ago.  So yes, there is almost certainly at least a million (if not millions) of years of differential evolution at work.
  43. @Resartus
    Asheville is the Liberal Hub of Western NC....
    A Blue dot, in a sea of Red.....
    Far as I have heard, the only place in the US
    that has so far voted to pay Reparations....
    Though, they put forth no plan how to finance or
    put together a list of who to pay...

    Pandering for the sake of Pandering.....

    Replies: @Lancelot_Link

    Ive always felt they should be paid in Confederate dollars. 😉

  44. @Anon
    This violence is brought by the drug trade. We know who the drug cartels are South of the Border. We know who leads them. We know the governments are part of the trade.

    We know who the street dealers in the US are. They are primarily those in the black community. Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.

    What is not discussed is the missing link. Who are the American drug cartels? Who is taking the incoming shipments from Latin America and distributing it into specifically black ghettos? Unfortunately it is unlikely to be any different than Mexico and other Latin countries. At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement. No question there is banking involvement, as banks like HSBC and Deutsch Bank regularly pay fines for laundering almost as a cost of doing business while never held criminally accountable. And there's no question the US targets some cartels and leaves others alone. Arrested cartel officials have explained all of that. Extrapolating from the Contra days, we can assume that our intelligence agencies are still involved with directly importing drugs to target neighborhoods and/or acquiescing as favored gangs do so as to maintain a more hands-off approach.

    Until the US Drug Cartels are exposed (and that includes US Government involvement) the gun violence at the terminal side of the drug trade will never stop. Sure, it's black neighborhoods, but they could just as easily target GOP neighborhoods for example. Wherever there is a drug supply there will be a drug problem. And wherever there is drug trade there is gun violence.

    Replies: @Piglet

    Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.

    I think you meant to type that the US was supporting the Contras against the Sandinista government. In El Salvador it was against the rebels and supported the government.

    You may recall that Congress cut off funding for the Reagan administration’s secret CIA war against Nicaragua so the spooks found what might be called “non-appropriated funding” through drugs. When I first read that our own government was involved I thought that was completely nuts, but later I learned that it was true.

    I recall an article years ago about military whistleblowers and a place they went to decompress. One person profiled in the article was a former air traffic controller at an air base in Florida and he learned that drug shipments were being flown in when the base radar system was being taken down “for maintenance.” He tried to report what was going on but ended up only destroying his own career. People think they’re doing the right thing and they might even be rewarded, but eventually they discover that the rot goes deep and big money has a way of corrupting people in the government and, yes, the military too. Putting on a government-issued costume doesn’t make an angel out of anyone. In the meantime, those who tried to do the right thing find their careers are destroyed, they’re financially ruined, their marriages collapse under the stress, and they may have to go into hiding indefinitely. When people say “go along to get along” they’re not kidding. Look at what happens to those who don’t.

    At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement.

    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago, and he and his legal team produced a letter from the US Department of Justice stating that he and his business would not be molested in any way by US authorities. The prosecution was rather perplexed because the letter was genuine, so where to go from there? I never did read how that turned out.

    Whenever there is a story about a big drug bust, law enforcement gives itself credit for hard work, but what is more likely taking place is that organizations such as the Sinaloa cartel are giving tips to LE, which benefits everyone. It gets rid of the cartel’s competition in a legal fashion and it allows LE to pat itself on the back in the public’s eye, everybody’s happy and the drugs keep flowing in. No matter how big a drug bust is, you never read that dope users are unable to buy drugs, that there’s a shortage anywhere.

    And it’s not just ghetto blacks who are users. Drugs are everywhere, often right under our noses, so to speak. When I was in the Army in the 1970s I was one of the only GIs in my barracks who was not injecting or smoking dope. When I got out and went back to college on my (then, not now) mostly white campus, I was again one of the only people not doing drugs. This was in a prosperous, well-to-do area so students had more money to spend on drugs. In my last job before retiring I noticed widespread usage by people in the company, including upper level management. Perhaps those snorts of coke gave them the mental edge they thought they needed?

    As long as Americans have a massive and insatiable appetite for drugs, our current situation will continue.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @Piglet

    Check out the books "Killing Pablo" by Mark Bowden, and "American Desperado" by Evan Wright about the early days of the cocaine business, and how much the government & CIA were involved in it. "The Accountant's Story" by Roberto Escobar (Pablo's brother) is another good read on the subject. They had so much cash on hand, they had a percentage of acceptable loss due to rats chewing up the paper money.

    Escobar was exporting 600 TONS a month, so when the agencies have a bust of a few hundred kilos, they get to pose on the news and act like they're making a difference. To the cartels it is the equivalent of owning a grocery store and expecting a few candy bars will be shoplifted.

    On the documentary side, "Cocaine Cowboys" is a good look at how governments and businesses are happy to turn a blind eye to what's going on, as long as the money is flowing in.

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    , @Resartus
    @Piglet


    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago,
     
    Long enough to remember the Gun Running Charges dropped by the Black guy
    bringing firearms into Chicago, just a few years ago, during Obama's war of
    Guns.....
    , @anarchyst
    @Piglet

    You failed to mention one salient fact. The "deep state" and its "black budget" is not funded through normal channels with congressional approval.
    The CIA is funded through the distribution and sale of "illegal" substances. The major drug cartels are leveraged against each other with the "winners" getting lucrative "distribution contracts" within the united States of America.
    The so-called "drug war" is an effective way to dispose of enemies of the "deep state" as well as to keep the so-called "justice system" well-plied with "warm bodies" for the American courts and prison systems.
    It's a "win-win" system that keeps the "deep state" flush with funds and the American "justice system" running at maximum capacity.
    Connect the dots and follow the money...

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    , @Female in FL
    @Piglet

    Piglet, off topic here. My daughter sent me a press release from her worthless cuck rep, Don Beyer .
    The guy is a 70 year old drama queen to the max, claimed “the insurgents were going to kill the Vice President and speaker,” thus his vote to impeach. He sits down to pee.

  45. @Peg B
    @mark green

    Well I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but it seems to me that male humans overwhelmingly commit far more wars, bombings, homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than any other gender.
    This site is really interesting but it - and events and the government, too - often seems geared to making or keeping people angry, paranoid and divided on issues rather than solving problems.

    Divided we are easy pickings. Which must be the assignment.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Bite Moi

    male humans overwhelmingly commit far more wars, bombings, homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than any other gender (sic).

    Almost there. You need to go just a little further and acknowledge that the phenomenon you speak of is not gender, but sex. Gender is a grammatical construct. Words have gender (masculine, feminine, neuter). Sex (male, female), like race, is a biological reality; and both have implications for behaviour. When you have accepted that, you will be, like me, a proud racist and sexist. It’s not hard.

    making or keeping people angry, paranoid and divided on issues rather than solving problems.

    Silly child, do you still not get it? Division is the solution.

    Back in South Africa, we called it Apartheid, or separation. Under pressure from you more enlightened people, we forsook our evil ways and achieved Salvation; and all it cost us was South Africa. A small price to pay for acceptance. South Africa is so much better now.

    We here on this blog have no desire for unity with the evolutionary dead-ends, the Babuntu*. We don’t want to live with them, we most definitely don’t want to degrade our progeny with their inferior DNA.

    * That’s what’s called a portmanteau word. I coined it myself. Such words contain parts of two or more other words, like a suitcase. Examples are smog, or infotainment. This one is derived from Bantu, meaning people, and ubuntu, or the spirit of humanity; hence, the people of Ubuntu. The fact that it is pronounced “Baboon-too” is neither here nor there.

    • Agree: CDebussey, Oil 'n Water
    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
    @AnalogMan


    Division is the solution.
     
    I used to check my horoscope in the newspaper from time to time. Then I discovered that if I closed my eyes and placed my index finger on any part of the astrological listings, that the “prediction” pretty much fit myself or anyone else for that matter, they were that general. But I did notice that all of them were positive, i.e., “Your great patience will win the day.” I don’t remember ever reading a negative prediction, such as, “Your inclination to behave like a prick is alienating others,” or something to that effect.
    The point is, the general population doesn’t want to hear “bad” stuff about themselves or others. Similar to Peg’s analysis, that there is no real problem here that kindness and nurturing and the absence of White hostility will not cure. Since she was active in the 70’s, and ergo is not exactly a laying hen any longer (nor I a sprightly rooster), it is all the more surprising that the black cycle of bitch-riot-appease over the past half century does not compute as an indicator that something is wrong here, beyond Whites being “bad” to blacks.
    We are too different to live together peacefully.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @CDebussey

  46. @Peg B
    @AnalogMan

    What planet are you from - "a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution"?
    So you flunked science, geography and history as well? Not to mention current events.
    I don't see the point of six paragraphs of untethered ranting. If that was your sole point, you nailed it.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Mr. Rational

    Look, it’s simple. Evolution is a continuous process. It is driven by random mutations, but also by genetic drift between species. It’s been going on since the birth of life on earth. Many millions of years.

    Even if you accept the Out of Africa theory as fact (I don’t), modern genetic science proves that Africans do not have the same genetic history as other races. They have traces of genes inherited from at least one, possibly more ghost species; species that are now extinct and otherwise unknown. The evolution of those species is part of their evolution, too. Likewise with us and Neanderthals. How many millions of years of evolution? How many other extinct species?

    We are not the same.

  47. Peg, go get Al a beer. The guy deserves it.

    • LOL: AR in Illinois
  48. @Patrick Boyle
    You are right of course. Americans endure black bad behavior and that seems incredible. We have had solid scientific research that blacks are substantially different from whites since sixty nine. That's 1869 not 1969. Galton published a paper on the low IQ's of blacks in that year. Of course the concept of IQ didn't even exist then. He used other language. Black lack of intelligence and violence had been commented on in traveler's accounts as far back as there have been such accounts. That's from at least New Kingdom Egypt.

    One common reaction by explorers first on encountering blacks in Africa is mistaking them for a form of chimpanzees. Let me remind you that chimps are not just stupid compared to people, they are also nasty. For example there have been seven authenticate cases of pet chimps killing and eating the human infants of their owners. In the wild chimps hunt and eat monkeys, and a human baby, it seems, looks like a chubby and delicious kind of monkey.

    We have all seen cute comical chimps on TV and the movies like J. Fred Muggs on the Today program or Tarzan's Cheetah. Those cute little animal comedians were all quite young. Grown chimps are vicious, murderous and cunning. No one realized this except a few white explorers and native blacks. But not only are adult chimps many times stronger than a human but they make plots and lay traps. If you want a pet, get something safer like a Pit Bull or a leopard.

    The point is simple. Blacks are not chimps but we are descended from chimps - not the much more docile Bonobo. And violence seems to have been greater in early man. It is certainly more prevalent is the remnant hunter/gatherer populations that still exist in various jungles. Black Africans are only about 50,000 to 80,000 years less evolved than Whites and Asians whereas we split from chimps 7,000,000 years ago. But those few thousand years saw great strides in the emergence of bigger brains and lowered violence.

    All the readers know most of this although almost no one understood chimps until Jane Goodall went to Africa.

    I'm off topic. I meant to write something about the causes of our strange reluctance to accept the reality of racial differences. Maybe tomorrow.

    Replies: @Peg B, @Bite Moi, @Bert

    Patrick Boyle——-Walt Disney gave the American culture the humanization of animals. However,any adult with common sense should recognize that wild animals aren’t your pet dog or cat. One of my rather well to do cousins nearly lost his left arm feeding hot dogs to a black bear on the main highway of the Great Smokey Mountains national park.Amazingly he did learn from that experience at the cost of only 2 fingers and a dislocated left shoulder. His wife,on the other hand,is still part of a White church’s outreach program to help inner city “yoofs”.———–and yes,they are from New Jersey.

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
    @Bite Moi

    my uncle bred and raised wolves on his mountain in California. He had the time and money to provide the proper enclosures and even a fenced in run.
    I myself prefered repriles. The exotic pets arent for beginners, takes time, money, and know how. Or you can get hurt. Yes i had an Eastern Diamond Back, Coral Snake, Caimens & a gator

    Replies: @Bite Moi

  49. @Peg B
    @mark green

    Well I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but it seems to me that male humans overwhelmingly commit far more wars, bombings, homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than any other gender.
    This site is really interesting but it - and events and the government, too - often seems geared to making or keeping people angry, paranoid and divided on issues rather than solving problems.

    Divided we are easy pickings. Which must be the assignment.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Bite Moi

    Peg B———You also have women egging on wars while shaming the men if they are not enthusiastic about risking their lives.Women pushed hard for the right to vote,but demanded to be exempt from the nation’s wars.Just another “rights” without responsibilities moment.

  50. @Piglet
    @Hannibal Smith


    If you look up her obituary, her parents did call out her being exceptionally naive and thinking she could change everyone.
     
    This is a trait I've seen in many women, and years Dr. Laura Schlessinger talked about it on her radio show. Many women, seeing themselves as angels saving the wayward, feel compelled to turn around bad people, whether they're criminals, gamblers, drunks, druggies, whatever. Dr. Laura strongly advised against it, saying that trying to change a bad person's ways would not be successful and would only generate resentment at the very least. Getting beat up or worse was a definite possibility.

    On a regular basis this advice is proven correct, and there will be more such women in future news stories.

    Replies: @Bite Moi, @Raccoon

    Piglet——Women tend to stumble through life because they emote rather than think. This is why they find themselves with “unplanned” and “unexpected” pregnancies,3 children and no husband,married to their 4th alcoholic or abuser,etc. Their poor choices are never their fault.Somebody else was driving the bus. Traditional cultures solved this problem by marrying them off by age 15.

  51. Stop the crimial drug trade in the USA!? Please, Take it easy man, How will the nation’s overpaid useless 1 million cops going to make big money over and above their bloated salaries and pensions if the biggest source of police graft for the last 60 years is eliminated? Back the blue they don’t give a fig about you. Remember when black guns start firing and seconds count the police are always minutes away.

  52. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Am I correct in thinking that Ashville N Carolina is something of a wealthy, Lib Leftist artist community – more like Boulder CO than some 1960s Andy Griffith style Mayberry or Mount Pilot?

    These wealthy, Lib artist communities aren’t that bad to live in if you just ignore the stupid things pols and young people say, but if there comes in a 11% violent Black, Mestizo population then things can get real bad.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @anonymous

    And if you can ignore your rent and property tax bills. Asheville is getting into New Jersey territory on that.

  53. @Peg B
    I lived in greater Boston in early 197in 0s, shuttling between apartments in Cambridge just blocks from Harvard, and a black neighborhood Dorchester just a block or two from Franklin Zoo. I'd grown up in the Midwest and got to compare cultures, and black American culture is different that white For starters, American culture.

    Young back women often dressed beautifully, especially compared to young white women like me; I prefered blue jeans or bell-bottoms and T shirts.

    When in Dorchester, I lived with a black family and we all knew to stay away from windows for fear of getting shot. I followed the example of black women in the neighborhood, walking in the street rather than on the sidewalk, where an attacker could be hidden in a doorway. To get around I took the bus or hitch hiked for lack of a car, so I met lots of people, all races.

    I didn't notice a difference in intelligence, but I did notice a difference in cultures. For one thing, black American culture is a matriarchy, with many male children having to find out how to be a man without a strong supportive male to emulate. The women I met tended to be rough with their children, using angry name-calling , blaming and put-downs and swats to discipline, and failing to praise good behavior. Black moms do not spoil their children!

    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer - violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.

    When I became a parent I learned that praising good behavior is the best disciplinary tool there is. And being supportive of the good stuff rather than prolonged screaming about the bad , and listening and reflecting back what was said, paves the way to sane, peaceful outcomes. The parenting principles demonstrated in the book, How to Talk So Children Will Listen, and Listen so Children Will Talk, should be taught to kids (and teachers and parents) from preschool on. But adults can learn too. It's just way harder.

    To solve problems of violence, teach supportive behavior at all levels, and stop throwing money. Thank you for listening.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @CDebussey

    I’m sorry, I thought we were all segregated back then, or so I was told. That’s the reason the disaster of desegregation and forced busing was rammed down our throats. All but one of the schools I went to in Cleveland Oh are closed now thanks to the increase in blacks and Hispanics that all but forced whites to flee to the suburbs (racist of course) for the sake of their children’s lives. To say this,

    I often thought in those days that young black Americans took the very worst that white culture has to offer – violence, materialism, and chronic anger- and made it their own.

    which I had to read twice and try to decide if you were being sarcastic or there was some sort of context I was missed. I was stunned to say the least. For anyone that can take a realistic look and come to the conclusion that inner city African’s that live off the system and detest America and it’s culture are not regressing at an alarming rate are either blind, stupid or both. Everything is now on the table to be labeled as racist, including being asked to show your work in math class. I weep for white people having kids today trying to imagine what fresh hellish mandates will be forced on them in the next 30 years. The lie that blacks are all victims of white society regardless of the riches they acquire has got to be the most sanctimonious load of dung that’s ever been sold by the scum on the left in this country. The sooner whitey comes to the obvious conclusion that there’s no light at the end of this tunnel, the sooner we can start coming to terms with what actually needs to happen. Diversity is not a strength, it’s a nation killer.

  54. @Piglet
    @Anon


    Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.
     
    I think you meant to type that the US was supporting the Contras against the Sandinista government. In El Salvador it was against the rebels and supported the government.

    You may recall that Congress cut off funding for the Reagan administration's secret CIA war against Nicaragua so the spooks found what might be called "non-appropriated funding" through drugs. When I first read that our own government was involved I thought that was completely nuts, but later I learned that it was true.

    I recall an article years ago about military whistleblowers and a place they went to decompress. One person profiled in the article was a former air traffic controller at an air base in Florida and he learned that drug shipments were being flown in when the base radar system was being taken down "for maintenance." He tried to report what was going on but ended up only destroying his own career. People think they're doing the right thing and they might even be rewarded, but eventually they discover that the rot goes deep and big money has a way of corrupting people in the government and, yes, the military too. Putting on a government-issued costume doesn't make an angel out of anyone. In the meantime, those who tried to do the right thing find their careers are destroyed, they're financially ruined, their marriages collapse under the stress, and they may have to go into hiding indefinitely. When people say "go along to get along" they're not kidding. Look at what happens to those who don't.

    At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement.
     
    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago, and he and his legal team produced a letter from the US Department of Justice stating that he and his business would not be molested in any way by US authorities. The prosecution was rather perplexed because the letter was genuine, so where to go from there? I never did read how that turned out.

    Whenever there is a story about a big drug bust, law enforcement gives itself credit for hard work, but what is more likely taking place is that organizations such as the Sinaloa cartel are giving tips to LE, which benefits everyone. It gets rid of the cartel's competition in a legal fashion and it allows LE to pat itself on the back in the public's eye, everybody's happy and the drugs keep flowing in. No matter how big a drug bust is, you never read that dope users are unable to buy drugs, that there's a shortage anywhere.

    And it's not just ghetto blacks who are users. Drugs are everywhere, often right under our noses, so to speak. When I was in the Army in the 1970s I was one of the only GIs in my barracks who was not injecting or smoking dope. When I got out and went back to college on my (then, not now) mostly white campus, I was again one of the only people not doing drugs. This was in a prosperous, well-to-do area so students had more money to spend on drugs. In my last job before retiring I noticed widespread usage by people in the company, including upper level management. Perhaps those snorts of coke gave them the mental edge they thought they needed?

    As long as Americans have a massive and insatiable appetite for drugs, our current situation will continue.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Resartus, @anarchyst, @Female in FL

    Check out the books “Killing Pablo” by Mark Bowden, and “American Desperado” by Evan Wright about the early days of the cocaine business, and how much the government & CIA were involved in it. “The Accountant’s Story” by Roberto Escobar (Pablo’s brother) is another good read on the subject. They had so much cash on hand, they had a percentage of acceptable loss due to rats chewing up the paper money.

    Escobar was exporting 600 TONS a month, so when the agencies have a bust of a few hundred kilos, they get to pose on the news and act like they’re making a difference. To the cartels it is the equivalent of owning a grocery store and expecting a few candy bars will be shoplifted.

    On the documentary side, “Cocaine Cowboys” is a good look at how governments and businesses are happy to turn a blind eye to what’s going on, as long as the money is flowing in.

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
    @Sick 'n Tired

    S 'n T, this is a topic I find very interesting.
    Especially during the mid to late '80's. There was a major drug bust / raid on Grosse Isle and in Dearborn back then.
    At the time the biggest coke bust Mich. had ever seen. Feds had tracked a comercial flight loaded with the white powder.

    A friend told me years later, that Arabs were shipping the stuff into Detroit, via tankers.

    I personally knew of an undercover BP agent that would flip large amounts of marijuana right out of the office this side of the bridge.

    I read Cocaine Cowboys , fascinating account of the game.

  55. @Peg B
    @AnalogMan

    Well, where else?
    Where do we, too, get it?
    What about white on white murder, theft, rape, assaults?
    About the constant blame thing - where do you get that? Parents?
    Doesn't matter what race - or culture - or mix of - you are, constantly blaming and finger pointing comes off as thought arrested adolescent. Doesn't mean it's not partly true, but it is whining.

    Replies: @CDebussey

    For those still confused about the color of murder in the US.

  56. http://gunmemorial.org/

    For those still confused about the color of murder in the US. And this is just those committed with firearms.

  57. @Piglet
    @Anon


    Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.
     
    I think you meant to type that the US was supporting the Contras against the Sandinista government. In El Salvador it was against the rebels and supported the government.

    You may recall that Congress cut off funding for the Reagan administration's secret CIA war against Nicaragua so the spooks found what might be called "non-appropriated funding" through drugs. When I first read that our own government was involved I thought that was completely nuts, but later I learned that it was true.

    I recall an article years ago about military whistleblowers and a place they went to decompress. One person profiled in the article was a former air traffic controller at an air base in Florida and he learned that drug shipments were being flown in when the base radar system was being taken down "for maintenance." He tried to report what was going on but ended up only destroying his own career. People think they're doing the right thing and they might even be rewarded, but eventually they discover that the rot goes deep and big money has a way of corrupting people in the government and, yes, the military too. Putting on a government-issued costume doesn't make an angel out of anyone. In the meantime, those who tried to do the right thing find their careers are destroyed, they're financially ruined, their marriages collapse under the stress, and they may have to go into hiding indefinitely. When people say "go along to get along" they're not kidding. Look at what happens to those who don't.

    At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement.
     
    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago, and he and his legal team produced a letter from the US Department of Justice stating that he and his business would not be molested in any way by US authorities. The prosecution was rather perplexed because the letter was genuine, so where to go from there? I never did read how that turned out.

    Whenever there is a story about a big drug bust, law enforcement gives itself credit for hard work, but what is more likely taking place is that organizations such as the Sinaloa cartel are giving tips to LE, which benefits everyone. It gets rid of the cartel's competition in a legal fashion and it allows LE to pat itself on the back in the public's eye, everybody's happy and the drugs keep flowing in. No matter how big a drug bust is, you never read that dope users are unable to buy drugs, that there's a shortage anywhere.

    And it's not just ghetto blacks who are users. Drugs are everywhere, often right under our noses, so to speak. When I was in the Army in the 1970s I was one of the only GIs in my barracks who was not injecting or smoking dope. When I got out and went back to college on my (then, not now) mostly white campus, I was again one of the only people not doing drugs. This was in a prosperous, well-to-do area so students had more money to spend on drugs. In my last job before retiring I noticed widespread usage by people in the company, including upper level management. Perhaps those snorts of coke gave them the mental edge they thought they needed?

    As long as Americans have a massive and insatiable appetite for drugs, our current situation will continue.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Resartus, @anarchyst, @Female in FL

    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago,

    Long enough to remember the Gun Running Charges dropped by the Black guy
    bringing firearms into Chicago, just a few years ago, during Obama’s war of
    Guns…..

  58. @Peg B
    @AnalogMan

    What planet are you from - "a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution"?
    So you flunked science, geography and history as well? Not to mention current events.
    I don't see the point of six paragraphs of untethered ranting. If that was your sole point, you nailed it.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Mr. Rational

    What planet are you from – “a problem rooted in millions of years of separate evolution”?
    So you flunked science, geography and history as well? Not to mention current events.

    He’s right, you’re wrong.

    The evidence available today favors a “back-into-Africa” model, where Homo sapiens sapiens developed many of our distinctive traits in Europe and Asia and then came back.  Sub-Saharan Africans carry genetic traces of “ghost populations” for which no fossils or other DNA have been found, and those “ghosts” could easily have separated from the main line over a million years ago.  So yes, there is almost certainly at least a million (if not millions) of years of differential evolution at work.

    • Agree: Trevor
  59. Mass removal from society is the only solution to mass criminality.

    Incarceration, exile… both are effective.  We need to move to exile for both habitual criminals and criminal families:  raise two habitual criminals, and your housing and food benefits should only be payable if you’re in your continent of ethnic origin.  That would be Africa for Africans and India for gypsies.

  60. @Bite Moi
    @Patrick Boyle

    Patrick Boyle-------Walt Disney gave the American culture the humanization of animals. However,any adult with common sense should recognize that wild animals aren't your pet dog or cat. One of my rather well to do cousins nearly lost his left arm feeding hot dogs to a black bear on the main highway of the Great Smokey Mountains national park.Amazingly he did learn from that experience at the cost of only 2 fingers and a dislocated left shoulder. His wife,on the other hand,is still part of a White church's outreach program to help inner city "yoofs".-----------and yes,they are from New Jersey.

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    my uncle bred and raised wolves on his mountain in California. He had the time and money to provide the proper enclosures and even a fenced in run.
    I myself prefered repriles. The exotic pets arent for beginners, takes time, money, and know how. Or you can get hurt. Yes i had an Eastern Diamond Back, Coral Snake, Caimens & a gator

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
    @Detroit Refugee

    Detroit Refugee------I assume you were careful. My prosperous 55 year old NJ cousin remains a "Hold my beer " kind of guy. However,he never "friended" another black bear.

  61. The real problem is white liberals. Progressive liberalism is a revolt against the discipline that makes modern life possible. Hence their inability to grapple with the real causes of crime.

    The social cost of liberal idiocy was a lot lower in the past but we are, now, reaching a point where point where civilisational collapse cannot be avoided if liberals are not forced to confront reality and adopt saner social policies.

  62. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.

    Replies: @raga10

    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.

    He who makes a claim should provide supporting evidence! I am not the one saying that “gun violence is a black-person thing”, nor am I attempting to refute that statement. What I am saying is that to accept it I would need to see solid and unbiased data, a serious attempt to understand the factors involved. Instead what I see in such discussions is usually just few cherry-picked bits that back up poster’s political talking points.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    The data is there and I'm not going to hand it to you on a silver spoon. Here's a good place to start for orientation that's an easy read though:

    https://theweek.com/articles/452321/appalachia-big-white-ghetto

    Replies: @raga10

    , @Bite Moi
    @raga10

    raga10-------I have cousins in the region known as Appalachia. Only black areas are generally dangerous. Many of the White communities are poor. However if you avoid the meth culture,and refrain from dating another man's wife; you won't have many problems.

    , @Detroit Refugee
    @raga10

    Pick a major American city. Watch whatever news is on air nightly. In my case its Fox 2 Detroit and 7 Action News. Immediately you'll see patterns emerge and you will know whos finger is on the trigger.

    Replies: @CLand Steamer

  63. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.
     
    He who makes a claim should provide supporting evidence! I am not the one saying that "gun violence is a black-person thing", nor am I attempting to refute that statement. What I am saying is that to accept it I would need to see solid and unbiased data, a serious attempt to understand the factors involved. Instead what I see in such discussions is usually just few cherry-picked bits that back up poster's political talking points.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Bite Moi, @Detroit Refugee

    The data is there and I’m not going to hand it to you on a silver spoon. Here’s a good place to start for orientation that’s an easy read though:

    https://theweek.com/articles/452321/appalachia-big-white-ghetto

    • Replies: @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Appalachia is an interesting case - from what I can see it does have very low murder rate, but overall it sits somewhat above national average for crime:


    Appalachia violent crime is 26.4. (The US average is 22.7)
    Appalachia property crime is 37.0. (The US average is 35.4)

    source: https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/virginia/appalachia

    So I don't know how to explain their low number of murders but it certainly isn't because they are a law-abiding lot on the whole. If anything, the fact they are an overwhelmingly white community would contradict the oft-expressed idea that blacks are more inclined to be criminal than whites.

    Of course, their relatively high criminality can be easily explained by their powerty - but then you'd have to admit that economics do play a role in people's behaviour.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @CLand Steamer

  64. @anonymous
    Am I correct in thinking that Ashville N Carolina is something of a wealthy, Lib Leftist artist community - more like Boulder CO than some 1960s Andy Griffith style Mayberry or Mount Pilot?


    These wealthy, Lib artist communities aren't that bad to live in if you just ignore the stupid things pols and young people say, but if there comes in a 11% violent Black, Mestizo population then things can get real bad.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    And if you can ignore your rent and property tax bills. Asheville is getting into New Jersey territory on that.

  65. @Detroit Refugee
    @Bite Moi

    my uncle bred and raised wolves on his mountain in California. He had the time and money to provide the proper enclosures and even a fenced in run.
    I myself prefered repriles. The exotic pets arent for beginners, takes time, money, and know how. Or you can get hurt. Yes i had an Eastern Diamond Back, Coral Snake, Caimens & a gator

    Replies: @Bite Moi

    Detroit Refugee——I assume you were careful. My prosperous 55 year old NJ cousin remains a “Hold my beer ” kind of guy. However,he never “friended” another black bear.

  66. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.
     
    He who makes a claim should provide supporting evidence! I am not the one saying that "gun violence is a black-person thing", nor am I attempting to refute that statement. What I am saying is that to accept it I would need to see solid and unbiased data, a serious attempt to understand the factors involved. Instead what I see in such discussions is usually just few cherry-picked bits that back up poster's political talking points.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Bite Moi, @Detroit Refugee

    raga10——-I have cousins in the region known as Appalachia. Only black areas are generally dangerous. Many of the White communities are poor. However if you avoid the meth culture,and refrain from dating another man’s wife; you won’t have many problems.

  67. @Piglet
    @Hannibal Smith


    If you look up her obituary, her parents did call out her being exceptionally naive and thinking she could change everyone.
     
    This is a trait I've seen in many women, and years Dr. Laura Schlessinger talked about it on her radio show. Many women, seeing themselves as angels saving the wayward, feel compelled to turn around bad people, whether they're criminals, gamblers, drunks, druggies, whatever. Dr. Laura strongly advised against it, saying that trying to change a bad person's ways would not be successful and would only generate resentment at the very least. Getting beat up or worse was a definite possibility.

    On a regular basis this advice is proven correct, and there will be more such women in future news stories.

    Replies: @Bite Moi, @Raccoon

    Your observation (and Bite Moi’s reply comment) are totally correct. Women “feel” – i.e. they “emote”.

    Women are almost inevitably incapable of rational thought – there is a surprisingly small percentage you meet who do comport themselves as rational humans, but these are few and far between.

    The most significant sociopolitical error made in the last 120 years has been universal suffrage. This way lies disaster.

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
    @Raccoon

    Raccoon----------Female in FL is a noticeable exception.She thinks. As for women in general,giving them the vote was like handing a 5 year old a pistol. Females pointed that vote at the Constitution and killed the Republic.

  68. @Patrick Boyle
    You are right of course. Americans endure black bad behavior and that seems incredible. We have had solid scientific research that blacks are substantially different from whites since sixty nine. That's 1869 not 1969. Galton published a paper on the low IQ's of blacks in that year. Of course the concept of IQ didn't even exist then. He used other language. Black lack of intelligence and violence had been commented on in traveler's accounts as far back as there have been such accounts. That's from at least New Kingdom Egypt.

    One common reaction by explorers first on encountering blacks in Africa is mistaking them for a form of chimpanzees. Let me remind you that chimps are not just stupid compared to people, they are also nasty. For example there have been seven authenticate cases of pet chimps killing and eating the human infants of their owners. In the wild chimps hunt and eat monkeys, and a human baby, it seems, looks like a chubby and delicious kind of monkey.

    We have all seen cute comical chimps on TV and the movies like J. Fred Muggs on the Today program or Tarzan's Cheetah. Those cute little animal comedians were all quite young. Grown chimps are vicious, murderous and cunning. No one realized this except a few white explorers and native blacks. But not only are adult chimps many times stronger than a human but they make plots and lay traps. If you want a pet, get something safer like a Pit Bull or a leopard.

    The point is simple. Blacks are not chimps but we are descended from chimps - not the much more docile Bonobo. And violence seems to have been greater in early man. It is certainly more prevalent is the remnant hunter/gatherer populations that still exist in various jungles. Black Africans are only about 50,000 to 80,000 years less evolved than Whites and Asians whereas we split from chimps 7,000,000 years ago. But those few thousand years saw great strides in the emergence of bigger brains and lowered violence.

    All the readers know most of this although almost no one understood chimps until Jane Goodall went to Africa.

    I'm off topic. I meant to write something about the causes of our strange reluctance to accept the reality of racial differences. Maybe tomorrow.

    Replies: @Peg B, @Bite Moi, @Bert

    The point is simple. Blacks are not chimps but we are descended from chimps – not the much more docile Bonobo.

    Black Africans are only about 50,000 to 80,000 years less evolved than Whites and Asians whereas we split from chimps 7,000,000 years ago.

    You are correct about the 7 million year before present date for the clade divergence of bipedal Australopithecines from quadrupedal apes, but wrong about our being descended from Pan troglodytes rather than Pan paniscus. The speciation event within the genus Pan occurred 5 million years after Australopithecines arose. When our clade arose, there were not two species of Pan. See link below.

    https://theconversation.com/revealed-the-ancient-genetic-link-between-chimpanzees-and-bonobos-67760#:~:text=Between%201.5%20and%202%20million,and%20more%20slender%20than%20chimpanzees.

    • Replies: @Trevor
    @Bert

    We are not evolved from chimps. We share a common ancestor with chimps.

    That most recent common ancestor seven million years ago split into several evolutionary lines.

    One line would become chimpanzees, another one humans, what would become negroids may or may not have been a separate line, and other lines something else. Over time some of those lines may have interbred with other lines.

    I once saw a diagram of this, but can't readily find it now.

    Replies: @Patrick Boyle

  69. Even liberal propaganda outlet Vox a few years ago ran a story where in the process of arguing for more gun control they admitted one race is much less responsible with guns. It was an amusing read because they completely ignored the obvious difference to go on about the same solution.

    But if blacks did not have guns, it would be knives, or clubs, or whatever was handy.

  70. @Piglet
    @Anon


    Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.
     
    I think you meant to type that the US was supporting the Contras against the Sandinista government. In El Salvador it was against the rebels and supported the government.

    You may recall that Congress cut off funding for the Reagan administration's secret CIA war against Nicaragua so the spooks found what might be called "non-appropriated funding" through drugs. When I first read that our own government was involved I thought that was completely nuts, but later I learned that it was true.

    I recall an article years ago about military whistleblowers and a place they went to decompress. One person profiled in the article was a former air traffic controller at an air base in Florida and he learned that drug shipments were being flown in when the base radar system was being taken down "for maintenance." He tried to report what was going on but ended up only destroying his own career. People think they're doing the right thing and they might even be rewarded, but eventually they discover that the rot goes deep and big money has a way of corrupting people in the government and, yes, the military too. Putting on a government-issued costume doesn't make an angel out of anyone. In the meantime, those who tried to do the right thing find their careers are destroyed, they're financially ruined, their marriages collapse under the stress, and they may have to go into hiding indefinitely. When people say "go along to get along" they're not kidding. Look at what happens to those who don't.

    At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement.
     
    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago, and he and his legal team produced a letter from the US Department of Justice stating that he and his business would not be molested in any way by US authorities. The prosecution was rather perplexed because the letter was genuine, so where to go from there? I never did read how that turned out.

    Whenever there is a story about a big drug bust, law enforcement gives itself credit for hard work, but what is more likely taking place is that organizations such as the Sinaloa cartel are giving tips to LE, which benefits everyone. It gets rid of the cartel's competition in a legal fashion and it allows LE to pat itself on the back in the public's eye, everybody's happy and the drugs keep flowing in. No matter how big a drug bust is, you never read that dope users are unable to buy drugs, that there's a shortage anywhere.

    And it's not just ghetto blacks who are users. Drugs are everywhere, often right under our noses, so to speak. When I was in the Army in the 1970s I was one of the only GIs in my barracks who was not injecting or smoking dope. When I got out and went back to college on my (then, not now) mostly white campus, I was again one of the only people not doing drugs. This was in a prosperous, well-to-do area so students had more money to spend on drugs. In my last job before retiring I noticed widespread usage by people in the company, including upper level management. Perhaps those snorts of coke gave them the mental edge they thought they needed?

    As long as Americans have a massive and insatiable appetite for drugs, our current situation will continue.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Resartus, @anarchyst, @Female in FL

    You failed to mention one salient fact. The “deep state” and its “black budget” is not funded through normal channels with congressional approval.
    The CIA is funded through the distribution and sale of “illegal” substances. The major drug cartels are leveraged against each other with the “winners” getting lucrative “distribution contracts” within the united States of America.
    The so-called “drug war” is an effective way to dispose of enemies of the “deep state” as well as to keep the so-called “justice system” well-plied with “warm bodies” for the American courts and prison systems.
    It’s a “win-win” system that keeps the “deep state” flush with funds and the American “justice system” running at maximum capacity.
    Connect the dots and follow the money…

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
    @anarchyst

    Look at how they set-up and then ruined John Delorean.

  71. @Piglet
    @Anon


    Guys like Ricky Ross who received his supply via Nicaragua where the US was fighting the Contras in the 1980s. It was revealed then that cocaine was intentionally dumped into black neighborhoods and the money funded the Contra war.
     
    I think you meant to type that the US was supporting the Contras against the Sandinista government. In El Salvador it was against the rebels and supported the government.

    You may recall that Congress cut off funding for the Reagan administration's secret CIA war against Nicaragua so the spooks found what might be called "non-appropriated funding" through drugs. When I first read that our own government was involved I thought that was completely nuts, but later I learned that it was true.

    I recall an article years ago about military whistleblowers and a place they went to decompress. One person profiled in the article was a former air traffic controller at an air base in Florida and he learned that drug shipments were being flown in when the base radar system was being taken down "for maintenance." He tried to report what was going on but ended up only destroying his own career. People think they're doing the right thing and they might even be rewarded, but eventually they discover that the rot goes deep and big money has a way of corrupting people in the government and, yes, the military too. Putting on a government-issued costume doesn't make an angel out of anyone. In the meantime, those who tried to do the right thing find their careers are destroyed, they're financially ruined, their marriages collapse under the stress, and they may have to go into hiding indefinitely. When people say "go along to get along" they're not kidding. Look at what happens to those who don't.

    At this volume it necessarily requires official involvement.
     
    I remember a news story from about seven or eight years ago in which a honcho from the Sinaloa cartel was on trial in Chicago, and he and his legal team produced a letter from the US Department of Justice stating that he and his business would not be molested in any way by US authorities. The prosecution was rather perplexed because the letter was genuine, so where to go from there? I never did read how that turned out.

    Whenever there is a story about a big drug bust, law enforcement gives itself credit for hard work, but what is more likely taking place is that organizations such as the Sinaloa cartel are giving tips to LE, which benefits everyone. It gets rid of the cartel's competition in a legal fashion and it allows LE to pat itself on the back in the public's eye, everybody's happy and the drugs keep flowing in. No matter how big a drug bust is, you never read that dope users are unable to buy drugs, that there's a shortage anywhere.

    And it's not just ghetto blacks who are users. Drugs are everywhere, often right under our noses, so to speak. When I was in the Army in the 1970s I was one of the only GIs in my barracks who was not injecting or smoking dope. When I got out and went back to college on my (then, not now) mostly white campus, I was again one of the only people not doing drugs. This was in a prosperous, well-to-do area so students had more money to spend on drugs. In my last job before retiring I noticed widespread usage by people in the company, including upper level management. Perhaps those snorts of coke gave them the mental edge they thought they needed?

    As long as Americans have a massive and insatiable appetite for drugs, our current situation will continue.

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Resartus, @anarchyst, @Female in FL

    Piglet, off topic here. My daughter sent me a press release from her worthless cuck rep, Don Beyer .
    The guy is a 70 year old drama queen to the max, claimed “the insurgents were going to kill the Vice President and speaker,” thus his vote to impeach. He sits down to pee.

  72. @Raccoon
    @Piglet

    Your observation (and Bite Moi's reply comment) are totally correct. Women "feel" - i.e. they "emote".

    Women are almost inevitably incapable of rational thought - there is a surprisingly small percentage you meet who do comport themselves as rational humans, but these are few and far between.

    The most significant sociopolitical error made in the last 120 years has been universal suffrage. This way lies disaster.

    Replies: @Bite Moi

    Raccoon———-Female in FL is a noticeable exception.She thinks. As for women in general,giving them the vote was like handing a 5 year old a pistol. Females pointed that vote at the Constitution and killed the Republic.

  73. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    The data is there and I'm not going to hand it to you on a silver spoon. Here's a good place to start for orientation that's an easy read though:

    https://theweek.com/articles/452321/appalachia-big-white-ghetto

    Replies: @raga10

    Appalachia is an interesting case – from what I can see it does have very low murder rate, but overall it sits somewhat above national average for crime:


    Appalachia violent crime is 26.4. (The US average is 22.7)
    Appalachia property crime is 37.0. (The US average is 35.4)

    source: https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/virginia/appalachia

    So I don’t know how to explain their low number of murders but it certainly isn’t because they are a law-abiding lot on the whole. If anything, the fact they are an overwhelmingly white community would contradict the oft-expressed idea that blacks are more inclined to be criminal than whites.

    Of course, their relatively high criminality can be easily explained by their powerty – but then you’d have to admit that economics do play a role in people’s behaviour.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    "Of course, their relatively high criminality can be easily explained by their powerty – but then you’d have to admit that economics do play a role in people’s behaviour."

    Yeah, I'll admit to that, but you're gonna have to admit that blacks just roll differently than the rest of the world in terms of social pathologies, regardless of economic circumstances.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    , @CLand Steamer
    @raga10


    but then you’d have to admit that economics do play a role in people’s behaviour.
     
    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race. The sports media loves to cover that up, but it's there. Although most (rolling my eyes) would certainly agree that for all races where people have the kind of money they do in todays overpay the entertainers world, blacks per capita still outpace all other races for criminal activity of all kinds even when they're so f'n rich they could retire comfortably after 5 to 7 years of sustained contracts. In the end if looked at in realistic terms, it really doesn't matter where they are or how much money they've got, they're always going to take home the first place trophy for shitty behavior. On a related note, if the FBI didn't stupidly lump in Hispanics with whites, realistic crime numbers on just murder would show non Hispanic whites based on arrest and convictions numbers committing less than 30 percent of all murders in this nation. From a crime and punishment standpoint, people with brown skin will eventually make this nation uninhabitable for whites.

    Replies: @raga10

  74. @RickTen99
    Gun violence isn’t just a Black-person thing, it’s not just a poor-person thing, it’s an everybody problem — you could get shot or robbed if you’ve been doing everything right

    The above statement is a giant pile of crap. Gun violence is a negro thing, period. In every major city, town, or county that has an abundance of the mud people they, Negroes, are the problem. Even in small towns the usual suspects in violent crime are, negroes. The line "you could get shot or robbed if your doing everything right" is a slap in the face of every white person who has been victimized by feral negro beasts. Filling my car with gas, do I deserve to be carjacked at gunpoint by negroes? Working in a convenience store as a part time second job do I deserve to be robbed, beaten, shot, stabbed, murdered to satisfy the blood lust of some sub human negro? Do I deserve to be attacked at home or work by a violent negro for no other reason than said negro has no conscience, no moral code, no regrets? Did a little adopted white girl deserve to be beaten an tortured by her negro adoptive parents? Did the dozens of names and faces that have appeared on these pages deserve to die for no other reason that the negro who murdered them had a sub human intelligence and an in bred blood list? My rant is over, time to take blood pressure meds.

    Replies: @Quaderricka

    When they say its an “everybody” problem what they mean is “its a problem for everyone” which it is.

    When they say its a poor people problem, what they mean its a “person who doesnt want to get a real job after their rap and sports careers didnt work out.”

    Crimes committed by White people happen also. Its just that White people dont have that dumb ass “no snitches” bullshit. They also dont take the side of the criminals and make them heroes. When a White person committs a crime and he/she gets arrested/killed , it is a great day for all the rest of the community.

    The only thing I can think of to as why the media lies like this is maybe they believe the more they bullshit everyone the more we will be beat down accepting it for fact. That might work on these woke retards but real Americans know better. Whether or not we ever grow the balls to do something about it is a different story.

  75. @Sick 'n Tired
    @Piglet

    Check out the books "Killing Pablo" by Mark Bowden, and "American Desperado" by Evan Wright about the early days of the cocaine business, and how much the government & CIA were involved in it. "The Accountant's Story" by Roberto Escobar (Pablo's brother) is another good read on the subject. They had so much cash on hand, they had a percentage of acceptable loss due to rats chewing up the paper money.

    Escobar was exporting 600 TONS a month, so when the agencies have a bust of a few hundred kilos, they get to pose on the news and act like they're making a difference. To the cartels it is the equivalent of owning a grocery store and expecting a few candy bars will be shoplifted.

    On the documentary side, "Cocaine Cowboys" is a good look at how governments and businesses are happy to turn a blind eye to what's going on, as long as the money is flowing in.

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    S ‘n T, this is a topic I find very interesting.
    Especially during the mid to late ’80’s. There was a major drug bust / raid on Grosse Isle and in Dearborn back then.
    At the time the biggest coke bust Mich. had ever seen. Feds had tracked a comercial flight loaded with the white powder.

    A friend told me years later, that Arabs were shipping the stuff into Detroit, via tankers.

    I personally knew of an undercover BP agent that would flip large amounts of marijuana right out of the office this side of the bridge.

    I read Cocaine Cowboys , fascinating account of the game.

  76. @anarchyst
    @Piglet

    You failed to mention one salient fact. The "deep state" and its "black budget" is not funded through normal channels with congressional approval.
    The CIA is funded through the distribution and sale of "illegal" substances. The major drug cartels are leveraged against each other with the "winners" getting lucrative "distribution contracts" within the united States of America.
    The so-called "drug war" is an effective way to dispose of enemies of the "deep state" as well as to keep the so-called "justice system" well-plied with "warm bodies" for the American courts and prison systems.
    It's a "win-win" system that keeps the "deep state" flush with funds and the American "justice system" running at maximum capacity.
    Connect the dots and follow the money...

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    Look at how they set-up and then ruined John Delorean.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  77. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Look at the long term (dare a say legacyfied?) intractably poverty stricken places in Appalachia that are 95% white. Look at the violent crime stats for those communities, analyze the nature of the various sub-categories of same and do your comparisons with places like Baltimore or even wealthy Prince Georges County, MD if you have the cojones to drop your blinders.
     
    He who makes a claim should provide supporting evidence! I am not the one saying that "gun violence is a black-person thing", nor am I attempting to refute that statement. What I am saying is that to accept it I would need to see solid and unbiased data, a serious attempt to understand the factors involved. Instead what I see in such discussions is usually just few cherry-picked bits that back up poster's political talking points.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Bite Moi, @Detroit Refugee

    Pick a major American city. Watch whatever news is on air nightly. In my case its Fox 2 Detroit and 7 Action News. Immediately you’ll see patterns emerge and you will know whos finger is on the trigger.

    • Replies: @CLand Steamer
    @Detroit Refugee


    Watch whatever news is on air nightly.
     
    Or watch the 1st 48 that covers only homicides in a city that resides in Tulsa county Oklahoma that's less than 11% black. Nearly all of the cases are either black or Hispanic. I'm sure the people they're arresting that they nearly always confiscate an 800 to 1000 dollar phone from are destitute. The clothes, shoes and jewelry they wear are enough proof of that nonsense.
  78. @Bert
    @Patrick Boyle


    The point is simple. Blacks are not chimps but we are descended from chimps – not the much more docile Bonobo.

    Black Africans are only about 50,000 to 80,000 years less evolved than Whites and Asians whereas we split from chimps 7,000,000 years ago.
     
    You are correct about the 7 million year before present date for the clade divergence of bipedal Australopithecines from quadrupedal apes, but wrong about our being descended from Pan troglodytes rather than Pan paniscus. The speciation event within the genus Pan occurred 5 million years after Australopithecines arose. When our clade arose, there were not two species of Pan. See link below.


    https://theconversation.com/revealed-the-ancient-genetic-link-between-chimpanzees-and-bonobos-67760#:~:text=Between%201.5%20and%202%20million,and%20more%20slender%20than%20chimpanzees.

    Replies: @Trevor

    We are not evolved from chimps. We share a common ancestor with chimps.

    That most recent common ancestor seven million years ago split into several evolutionary lines.

    One line would become chimpanzees, another one humans, what would become negroids may or may not have been a separate line, and other lines something else. Over time some of those lines may have interbred with other lines.

    I once saw a diagram of this, but can’t readily find it now.

    • Replies: @Patrick Boyle
    @Trevor

    If you read my postings you will find that I try to be careful never to say that we descended from chimpanzees but rather from an LCA.

  79. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Appalachia is an interesting case - from what I can see it does have very low murder rate, but overall it sits somewhat above national average for crime:


    Appalachia violent crime is 26.4. (The US average is 22.7)
    Appalachia property crime is 37.0. (The US average is 35.4)

    source: https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/virginia/appalachia

    So I don't know how to explain their low number of murders but it certainly isn't because they are a law-abiding lot on the whole. If anything, the fact they are an overwhelmingly white community would contradict the oft-expressed idea that blacks are more inclined to be criminal than whites.

    Of course, their relatively high criminality can be easily explained by their powerty - but then you'd have to admit that economics do play a role in people's behaviour.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @CLand Steamer

    “Of course, their relatively high criminality can be easily explained by their powerty – but then you’d have to admit that economics do play a role in people’s behaviour.”

    Yeah, I’ll admit to that, but you’re gonna have to admit that blacks just roll differently than the rest of the world in terms of social pathologies, regardless of economic circumstances.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Blacks roll differently enough—and I DO mean differently enough—that no one, meaning NO ONE, should have to deal with them except on a strict volunteer basis.

    No "integration" unless compensated, for any reason.  Period.

  80. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Appalachia is an interesting case - from what I can see it does have very low murder rate, but overall it sits somewhat above national average for crime:


    Appalachia violent crime is 26.4. (The US average is 22.7)
    Appalachia property crime is 37.0. (The US average is 35.4)

    source: https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/virginia/appalachia

    So I don't know how to explain their low number of murders but it certainly isn't because they are a law-abiding lot on the whole. If anything, the fact they are an overwhelmingly white community would contradict the oft-expressed idea that blacks are more inclined to be criminal than whites.

    Of course, their relatively high criminality can be easily explained by their powerty - but then you'd have to admit that economics do play a role in people's behaviour.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @CLand Steamer

    but then you’d have to admit that economics do play a role in people’s behaviour.

    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race. The sports media loves to cover that up, but it’s there. Although most (rolling my eyes) would certainly agree that for all races where people have the kind of money they do in todays overpay the entertainers world, blacks per capita still outpace all other races for criminal activity of all kinds even when they’re so f’n rich they could retire comfortably after 5 to 7 years of sustained contracts. In the end if looked at in realistic terms, it really doesn’t matter where they are or how much money they’ve got, they’re always going to take home the first place trophy for shitty behavior. On a related note, if the FBI didn’t stupidly lump in Hispanics with whites, realistic crime numbers on just murder would show non Hispanic whites based on arrest and convictions numbers committing less than 30 percent of all murders in this nation. From a crime and punishment standpoint, people with brown skin will eventually make this nation uninhabitable for whites.

    • Replies: @raga10
    @CLand Steamer


    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race.
     
    Can you show that rate is really higher for blacks? Not by quoting some examples, but statistically? My answer for now is that a) white athletes get into all kinds of trouble as well and b) as I mentioned in my other reply, athletes and rappers tend to be 'new money' - they grew up poor and in fact sports or entertainment was their ticket out. But it's easier to take the man out of the gutter than to take the gutter out of the man.

    Replies: @CDebussey, @CDebussey, @Jim Bob Lassiter

  81. @Detroit Refugee
    @raga10

    Pick a major American city. Watch whatever news is on air nightly. In my case its Fox 2 Detroit and 7 Action News. Immediately you'll see patterns emerge and you will know whos finger is on the trigger.

    Replies: @CLand Steamer

    Watch whatever news is on air nightly.

    Or watch the 1st 48 that covers only homicides in a city that resides in Tulsa county Oklahoma that’s less than 11% black. Nearly all of the cases are either black or Hispanic. I’m sure the people they’re arresting that they nearly always confiscate an 800 to 1000 dollar phone from are destitute. The clothes, shoes and jewelry they wear are enough proof of that nonsense.

  82. Yeah, I’ll admit to that, but you’re gonna have to admit that blacks just roll differently than the rest of the world in terms of social pathologies, regardless of economic circumstances.

    I’ll admit they might be more inclined to them, but I am not convinced their tendencies are completely separated from economic circumstances. To put it another way, I think tendencies might be there, but I wonder if they can be successfully countered by improving their conditions.

    I hinted at this earlier; I would love to see a comparison of criminality of well-to-do, (or at least, middle class) blacks vs. whites. And I’m not talking about rappers or sports stars who made to riches but grew up in a gutter; I’m talking about people who had the benefit of growing up in a stable, reasonably well-to-do environment. If their tendendencies are genetic, they should still be displaying higher criminality – but do they? I honestly don’t know, because I don’t know of such study.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    Just look at the behavior of young blacks (brought up in affluent two parent "artificial middle class" black families (ma and pa both are long haul career federal government "workers") in Prince Georges County, Maryland. (home of race baiting syndicated columnist Leonard Pitts, Jr.) Hell, look at the local government of Prince Georges County. It's as if, in spite of the good paying federal government jobs and an infrastructure handed to these people, they still want to regress to Zimbabwe levels of lifestyles.

  83. @CLand Steamer
    @raga10


    but then you’d have to admit that economics do play a role in people’s behaviour.
     
    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race. The sports media loves to cover that up, but it's there. Although most (rolling my eyes) would certainly agree that for all races where people have the kind of money they do in todays overpay the entertainers world, blacks per capita still outpace all other races for criminal activity of all kinds even when they're so f'n rich they could retire comfortably after 5 to 7 years of sustained contracts. In the end if looked at in realistic terms, it really doesn't matter where they are or how much money they've got, they're always going to take home the first place trophy for shitty behavior. On a related note, if the FBI didn't stupidly lump in Hispanics with whites, realistic crime numbers on just murder would show non Hispanic whites based on arrest and convictions numbers committing less than 30 percent of all murders in this nation. From a crime and punishment standpoint, people with brown skin will eventually make this nation uninhabitable for whites.

    Replies: @raga10

    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race.

    Can you show that rate is really higher for blacks? Not by quoting some examples, but statistically? My answer for now is that a) white athletes get into all kinds of trouble as well and b) as I mentioned in my other reply, athletes and rappers tend to be ‘new money’ – they grew up poor and in fact sports or entertainment was their ticket out. But it’s easier to take the man out of the gutter than to take the gutter out of the man.

    • LOL: CDebussey
    • Replies: @CDebussey
    @raga10


    But it’s easier to take the man out of the gutter than to take the gutter out of the man.
     
    Always the victim right? Had we just left them where they were they'd be walking on Mars or more than likely have already cured cancer. A large percentage of these people are a cancer, and cucked stupid white liberals are bending over in droves to accept their punishment for god knows what.. I wonder what the new excuse will be when the powers that be vote in reparations and nothing changes with their behavior.. That was the idea for the civil rights act and building free housing and throwing money at them to breed right? I'll retort to your comment above, and ill stipulate that it's not completely unreasonable, but on the flip side when you're dealing with the dumbest of the dumb, no amount of money is ever going to change that. And add in the cultural treasures and honestly we're trying to solve an unsolvable problem. Is that systemic? Yep.. I just attest that it's politicians that are the problem, not some fictitious white supremacist movement that no one can seem to put a finger on to exactly where they're at.
    , @CDebussey
    @raga10

    Oh, and to your question of arrest rates, I know it won't matter to you because like most pacifiers i'm sure you'll have a pre-loaded excuse for this table as well.. Probably that there are more blacks in the NFL than whites.. Not untrue, but google the first 25 names and get their pictures and tell us all how the stats turn out. And this is just the NFL, find an NBA site and see how many arrests were made and if there are any white boys to report. Lmao!

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

    Replies: @raga10

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    OK Mr. Raga10-- From some of your "our" spelling in prior comments, I am surmising that you acquired your English language skills somewhere other than in the US.

    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper "statistics" on the discussion at hand, which is street crime and violent criminal behavior by racial groups.

    To that end, I'll suggest a read of The Color of Crime. Here, the statistics, charts, footnotes, bibliography, methodological explanations ad nauseum are all properly and dispassionately laid out for your reading pleasure. The sources are academic and official US government justice agencies.

    Read it carefully and then decide if you want to proceed further, or go try some new off-label experimental uses of Gorilla Glue. Here it is on a silver platter free of charge:

    http://2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2005-Color-of-Crime-Report.pdf

    Replies: @raga10

  84. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    "Of course, their relatively high criminality can be easily explained by their powerty – but then you’d have to admit that economics do play a role in people’s behaviour."

    Yeah, I'll admit to that, but you're gonna have to admit that blacks just roll differently than the rest of the world in terms of social pathologies, regardless of economic circumstances.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Blacks roll differently enough—and I DO mean differently enough—that no one, meaning NO ONE, should have to deal with them except on a strict volunteer basis.

    No “integration” unless compensated, for any reason.  Period.

  85. @raga10
    @CLand Steamer


    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race.
     
    Can you show that rate is really higher for blacks? Not by quoting some examples, but statistically? My answer for now is that a) white athletes get into all kinds of trouble as well and b) as I mentioned in my other reply, athletes and rappers tend to be 'new money' - they grew up poor and in fact sports or entertainment was their ticket out. But it's easier to take the man out of the gutter than to take the gutter out of the man.

    Replies: @CDebussey, @CDebussey, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    But it’s easier to take the man out of the gutter than to take the gutter out of the man.

    Always the victim right? Had we just left them where they were they’d be walking on Mars or more than likely have already cured cancer. A large percentage of these people are a cancer, and cucked stupid white liberals are bending over in droves to accept their punishment for god knows what.. I wonder what the new excuse will be when the powers that be vote in reparations and nothing changes with their behavior.. That was the idea for the civil rights act and building free housing and throwing money at them to breed right? I’ll retort to your comment above, and ill stipulate that it’s not completely unreasonable, but on the flip side when you’re dealing with the dumbest of the dumb, no amount of money is ever going to change that. And add in the cultural treasures and honestly we’re trying to solve an unsolvable problem. Is that systemic? Yep.. I just attest that it’s politicians that are the problem, not some fictitious white supremacist movement that no one can seem to put a finger on to exactly where they’re at.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  86. @raga10
    @CLand Steamer


    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race.
     
    Can you show that rate is really higher for blacks? Not by quoting some examples, but statistically? My answer for now is that a) white athletes get into all kinds of trouble as well and b) as I mentioned in my other reply, athletes and rappers tend to be 'new money' - they grew up poor and in fact sports or entertainment was their ticket out. But it's easier to take the man out of the gutter than to take the gutter out of the man.

    Replies: @CDebussey, @CDebussey, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Oh, and to your question of arrest rates, I know it won’t matter to you because like most pacifiers i’m sure you’ll have a pre-loaded excuse for this table as well.. Probably that there are more blacks in the NFL than whites.. Not untrue, but google the first 25 names and get their pictures and tell us all how the stats turn out. And this is just the NFL, find an NBA site and see how many arrests were made and if there are any white boys to report. Lmao!

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

    • Replies: @raga10
    @CDebussey


    Oh, and to your question of arrest rates, I know it won’t matter to you because like most pacifiers i’m sure you’ll have a pre-loaded excuse for this table as well.. Probably that there are more blacks in the NFL than whites..
     
    That would be my go-to excuse - apparently something like 70% of NFL players are black. But I went through 40 names from that list and you are right: blacks are seriously over-represented. I can accept facts when I see them, so I concede your point.

    Replies: @CDebussey

  87. @raga10
    @CLand Steamer


    Please explain arrest rates across the board for professional athletes and the clear differences based on race.
     
    Can you show that rate is really higher for blacks? Not by quoting some examples, but statistically? My answer for now is that a) white athletes get into all kinds of trouble as well and b) as I mentioned in my other reply, athletes and rappers tend to be 'new money' - they grew up poor and in fact sports or entertainment was their ticket out. But it's easier to take the man out of the gutter than to take the gutter out of the man.

    Replies: @CDebussey, @CDebussey, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    OK Mr. Raga10– From some of your “our” spelling in prior comments, I am surmising that you acquired your English language skills somewhere other than in the US.

    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper “statistics” on the discussion at hand, which is street crime and violent criminal behavior by racial groups.

    To that end, I’ll suggest a read of The Color of Crime. Here, the statistics, charts, footnotes, bibliography, methodological explanations ad nauseum are all properly and dispassionately laid out for your reading pleasure. The sources are academic and official US government justice agencies.

    Read it carefully and then decide if you want to proceed further, or go try some new off-label experimental uses of Gorilla Glue. Here it is on a silver platter free of charge:

    http://2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2005-Color-of-Crime-Report.pdf

    • LOL: CDebussey
    • Replies: @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper “statistics” on the discussion at hand
     
    Indeed, I am quite persistent in my expectation that discussions of statistical trends should be based on statistical information. If you consider this a 'childlish tantrum'... what can I say? Nothing that would be worth saying, anyway.
    I will read the link you posted.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Jim Bob Lassiter

  88. @AnalogMan
    @Peg B


    male humans overwhelmingly commit far more wars, bombings, homicides, holdups, assaults, car-jackings, and rapes than any other gender (sic).
     
    Almost there. You need to go just a little further and acknowledge that the phenomenon you speak of is not gender, but sex. Gender is a grammatical construct. Words have gender (masculine, feminine, neuter). Sex (male, female), like race, is a biological reality; and both have implications for behaviour. When you have accepted that, you will be, like me, a proud racist and sexist. It's not hard.

    making or keeping people angry, paranoid and divided on issues rather than solving problems.
     
    Silly child, do you still not get it? Division is the solution.

    Back in South Africa, we called it Apartheid, or separation. Under pressure from you more enlightened people, we forsook our evil ways and achieved Salvation; and all it cost us was South Africa. A small price to pay for acceptance. South Africa is so much better now.

    We here on this blog have no desire for unity with the evolutionary dead-ends, the Babuntu*. We don't want to live with them, we most definitely don't want to degrade our progeny with their inferior DNA.

    * That's what's called a portmanteau word. I coined it myself. Such words contain parts of two or more other words, like a suitcase. Examples are smog, or infotainment. This one is derived from Bantu, meaning people, and ubuntu, or the spirit of humanity; hence, the people of Ubuntu. The fact that it is pronounced "Baboon-too" is neither here nor there.

    Replies: @Oil 'n Water

    Division is the solution.

    I used to check my horoscope in the newspaper from time to time. Then I discovered that if I closed my eyes and placed my index finger on any part of the astrological listings, that the “prediction” pretty much fit myself or anyone else for that matter, they were that general. But I did notice that all of them were positive, i.e., “Your great patience will win the day.” I don’t remember ever reading a negative prediction, such as, “Your inclination to behave like a prick is alienating others,” or something to that effect.
    The point is, the general population doesn’t want to hear “bad” stuff about themselves or others. Similar to Peg’s analysis, that there is no real problem here that kindness and nurturing and the absence of White hostility will not cure. Since she was active in the 70’s, and ergo is not exactly a laying hen any longer (nor I a sprightly rooster), it is all the more surprising that the black cycle of bitch-riot-appease over the past half century does not compute as an indicator that something is wrong here, beyond Whites being “bad” to blacks.
    We are too different to live together peacefully.

    • Replies: @Female in FL
    @Oil 'n Water

    My favorite fortune cookie said “expect nothing, you will not be disappointed.” How true, how true.

    , @CDebussey
    @Oil 'n Water


    Similar to Peg’s analysis, that there is no real problem here that kindness and nurturing and the absence of White hostility will not cure.
     
    Brilliant sentence, and clearly the accepted agenda dung that so many have lapped up like mothers milk since the heady days of LBJ that put this runaway train in motion.

    We are too different to live together peacefully.

     

    Truer words may have never been spoken, but the experiment I'm afraid will have to be played out for the brain dead whites to finally come to terms with it. I figure the South African style of squatter camps could be a tipping point.
  89. @Oil 'n Water
    @AnalogMan


    Division is the solution.
     
    I used to check my horoscope in the newspaper from time to time. Then I discovered that if I closed my eyes and placed my index finger on any part of the astrological listings, that the “prediction” pretty much fit myself or anyone else for that matter, they were that general. But I did notice that all of them were positive, i.e., “Your great patience will win the day.” I don’t remember ever reading a negative prediction, such as, “Your inclination to behave like a prick is alienating others,” or something to that effect.
    The point is, the general population doesn’t want to hear “bad” stuff about themselves or others. Similar to Peg’s analysis, that there is no real problem here that kindness and nurturing and the absence of White hostility will not cure. Since she was active in the 70’s, and ergo is not exactly a laying hen any longer (nor I a sprightly rooster), it is all the more surprising that the black cycle of bitch-riot-appease over the past half century does not compute as an indicator that something is wrong here, beyond Whites being “bad” to blacks.
    We are too different to live together peacefully.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @CDebussey

    My favorite fortune cookie said “expect nothing, you will not be disappointed.” How true, how true.

    • Agree: Oil 'n Water
  90. @Oil 'n Water
    @AnalogMan


    Division is the solution.
     
    I used to check my horoscope in the newspaper from time to time. Then I discovered that if I closed my eyes and placed my index finger on any part of the astrological listings, that the “prediction” pretty much fit myself or anyone else for that matter, they were that general. But I did notice that all of them were positive, i.e., “Your great patience will win the day.” I don’t remember ever reading a negative prediction, such as, “Your inclination to behave like a prick is alienating others,” or something to that effect.
    The point is, the general population doesn’t want to hear “bad” stuff about themselves or others. Similar to Peg’s analysis, that there is no real problem here that kindness and nurturing and the absence of White hostility will not cure. Since she was active in the 70’s, and ergo is not exactly a laying hen any longer (nor I a sprightly rooster), it is all the more surprising that the black cycle of bitch-riot-appease over the past half century does not compute as an indicator that something is wrong here, beyond Whites being “bad” to blacks.
    We are too different to live together peacefully.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @CDebussey

    Similar to Peg’s analysis, that there is no real problem here that kindness and nurturing and the absence of White hostility will not cure.

    Brilliant sentence, and clearly the accepted agenda dung that so many have lapped up like mothers milk since the heady days of LBJ that put this runaway train in motion.

    We are too different to live together peacefully.

    Truer words may have never been spoken, but the experiment I’m afraid will have to be played out for the brain dead whites to finally come to terms with it. I figure the South African style of squatter camps could be a tipping point.

    • Thanks: Oil 'n Water
  91. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    OK Mr. Raga10-- From some of your "our" spelling in prior comments, I am surmising that you acquired your English language skills somewhere other than in the US.

    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper "statistics" on the discussion at hand, which is street crime and violent criminal behavior by racial groups.

    To that end, I'll suggest a read of The Color of Crime. Here, the statistics, charts, footnotes, bibliography, methodological explanations ad nauseum are all properly and dispassionately laid out for your reading pleasure. The sources are academic and official US government justice agencies.

    Read it carefully and then decide if you want to proceed further, or go try some new off-label experimental uses of Gorilla Glue. Here it is on a silver platter free of charge:

    http://2kpcwh2r7phz1nq4jj237m22.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2005-Color-of-Crime-Report.pdf

    Replies: @raga10

    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper “statistics” on the discussion at hand

    Indeed, I am quite persistent in my expectation that discussions of statistical trends should be based on statistical information. If you consider this a ‘childlish tantrum’… what can I say? Nothing that would be worth saying, anyway.
    I will read the link you posted.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @raga10

    There is an updated version for 2016. Just search for "Color of crime 2016".

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    Would like to see some really fresh official statistics and graphs? It just got posted right here here at UNZ:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nypd-per-capita-blacks-in-nyc-18-7-times-as-likely-as-asians-to-be-robbery-suspects/

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @raga10

    I believe I hear the sound of crickets chirping in Mister Raga's back yard.

  92. @CDebussey
    @raga10

    Oh, and to your question of arrest rates, I know it won't matter to you because like most pacifiers i'm sure you'll have a pre-loaded excuse for this table as well.. Probably that there are more blacks in the NFL than whites.. Not untrue, but google the first 25 names and get their pictures and tell us all how the stats turn out. And this is just the NFL, find an NBA site and see how many arrests were made and if there are any white boys to report. Lmao!

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

    Replies: @raga10

    Oh, and to your question of arrest rates, I know it won’t matter to you because like most pacifiers i’m sure you’ll have a pre-loaded excuse for this table as well.. Probably that there are more blacks in the NFL than whites..

    That would be my go-to excuse – apparently something like 70% of NFL players are black. But I went through 40 names from that list and you are right: blacks are seriously over-represented. I can accept facts when I see them, so I concede your point.

    • Replies: @CDebussey
    @raga10

    I have to admit I was surprised you conceded to that. You may be the first person that actually admitted to what's obvious to people that aren't biased and look at hard numbers as opposed to a ridiculous narrative. A couple of months back I had a somewhat productive, slightly heated discussion with a black woman about the stupidity of BLM and their want for the abolishing of policing. I simply pointed out rising murder numbers in black areas around the country where LE was backing off of, (which by and large is not up for debate) and asked her simply again, why would you want to dismantle an entity that would have catastrophic consequences for the lives of those you say matter? Never heard another word out her. Maybe there's hope after all.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

  93. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper “statistics” on the discussion at hand
     
    Indeed, I am quite persistent in my expectation that discussions of statistical trends should be based on statistical information. If you consider this a 'childlish tantrum'... what can I say? Nothing that would be worth saying, anyway.
    I will read the link you posted.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    There is an updated version for 2016. Just search for “Color of crime 2016”.

  94. @raga10
    @CDebussey


    Oh, and to your question of arrest rates, I know it won’t matter to you because like most pacifiers i’m sure you’ll have a pre-loaded excuse for this table as well.. Probably that there are more blacks in the NFL than whites..
     
    That would be my go-to excuse - apparently something like 70% of NFL players are black. But I went through 40 names from that list and you are right: blacks are seriously over-represented. I can accept facts when I see them, so I concede your point.

    Replies: @CDebussey

    I have to admit I was surprised you conceded to that. You may be the first person that actually admitted to what’s obvious to people that aren’t biased and look at hard numbers as opposed to a ridiculous narrative. A couple of months back I had a somewhat productive, slightly heated discussion with a black woman about the stupidity of BLM and their want for the abolishing of policing. I simply pointed out rising murder numbers in black areas around the country where LE was backing off of, (which by and large is not up for debate) and asked her simply again, why would you want to dismantle an entity that would have catastrophic consequences for the lives of those you say matter? Never heard another word out her. Maybe there’s hope after all.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @CDebussey

    "Maybe there’s hope after all."

    Just say no to hopium.

  95. @CDebussey
    @raga10

    I have to admit I was surprised you conceded to that. You may be the first person that actually admitted to what's obvious to people that aren't biased and look at hard numbers as opposed to a ridiculous narrative. A couple of months back I had a somewhat productive, slightly heated discussion with a black woman about the stupidity of BLM and their want for the abolishing of policing. I simply pointed out rising murder numbers in black areas around the country where LE was backing off of, (which by and large is not up for debate) and asked her simply again, why would you want to dismantle an entity that would have catastrophic consequences for the lives of those you say matter? Never heard another word out her. Maybe there's hope after all.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    “Maybe there’s hope after all.”

    Just say no to hopium.

  96. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper “statistics” on the discussion at hand
     
    Indeed, I am quite persistent in my expectation that discussions of statistical trends should be based on statistical information. If you consider this a 'childlish tantrum'... what can I say? Nothing that would be worth saying, anyway.
    I will read the link you posted.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Would like to see some really fresh official statistics and graphs? It just got posted right here here at UNZ:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nypd-per-capita-blacks-in-nyc-18-7-times-as-likely-as-asians-to-be-robbery-suspects/

  97. @raga10

    Yeah, I’ll admit to that, but you’re gonna have to admit that blacks just roll differently than the rest of the world in terms of social pathologies, regardless of economic circumstances.
     
    I'll admit they might be more inclined to them, but I am not convinced their tendencies are completely separated from economic circumstances. To put it another way, I think tendencies might be there, but I wonder if they can be successfully countered by improving their conditions.

    I hinted at this earlier; I would love to see a comparison of criminality of well-to-do, (or at least, middle class) blacks vs. whites. And I'm not talking about rappers or sports stars who made to riches but grew up in a gutter; I'm talking about people who had the benefit of growing up in a stable, reasonably well-to-do environment. If their tendendencies are genetic, they should still be displaying higher criminality - but do they? I honestly don't know, because I don't know of such study.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Just look at the behavior of young blacks (brought up in affluent two parent “artificial middle class” black families (ma and pa both are long haul career federal government “workers”) in Prince Georges County, Maryland. (home of race baiting syndicated columnist Leonard Pitts, Jr.) Hell, look at the local government of Prince Georges County. It’s as if, in spite of the good paying federal government jobs and an infrastructure handed to these people, they still want to regress to Zimbabwe levels of lifestyles.

  98. @raga10
    @Jim Bob Lassiter


    Anyhow, you have been persistent almost to the point of a childish tantrum on having your hard and proper “statistics” on the discussion at hand
     
    Indeed, I am quite persistent in my expectation that discussions of statistical trends should be based on statistical information. If you consider this a 'childlish tantrum'... what can I say? Nothing that would be worth saying, anyway.
    I will read the link you posted.

    Replies: @AnalogMan, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I believe I hear the sound of crickets chirping in Mister Raga’s back yard.

  99. @Trevor
    @Bert

    We are not evolved from chimps. We share a common ancestor with chimps.

    That most recent common ancestor seven million years ago split into several evolutionary lines.

    One line would become chimpanzees, another one humans, what would become negroids may or may not have been a separate line, and other lines something else. Over time some of those lines may have interbred with other lines.

    I once saw a diagram of this, but can't readily find it now.

    Replies: @Patrick Boyle

    If you read my postings you will find that I try to be careful never to say that we descended from chimpanzees but rather from an LCA.

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