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Between July 16 and July 28th, 2019, There Were 36 Mass Shootings Across the United States: Blacks Were Suspects in 34 of Them
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The great Colin Flaherty (buy his book if you haven’t) documents the truth no other journalist would dare publish (or investigate). Who/whom commits mass shootings in America? Mr. Flaherty documented mass shootings over a two week period between July 16th and July 28th, 2019. [After Gilroy: Mass shootings a white thing? Oh, hell, no, American Thinker, July 30, 2019]:

Even before the final butcher’s bill was presented for the Sunday-night mass shooting in Gilroy, the blue checkers and talking heads were filling their platforms with fairy tales that most mass shooters are white.

But in the two-week run-up to Gilroy, there were 36 other mass shootings from coast to coast — and 34 of those shooters were black. One was white and one Hispanic. These results echo a New York Times story from 2016 that stated, much to the surprise and chagrin of the reporters, that whenever there are three or more victims of gunfire, 75 percent of shooters in America are black.

Today, that number looks a bit generous to black sensibilities.

But numbers from the New York Times and ten stories from good ol’ Colin this year documenting hundreds of black mass shootings did not do much to remove the blinders of those who insist mass shootings are a white thing.

Anyone up for a magical mystery tour of mass shootings over the last two weeks where black people shot three or more people? (You can follow along on my video; just click here.

Let’s start in Brooklyn on Saturday night and let the headlines tell the stories:

1. As many as 12 people shot in Brownsville, Brooklyn: Police.

2. In Philadelphia on July 28: 1 dead, 5 wounded in shooting during rap video production.

3. In Philadelphia on July 28: 6 shot in Southwest Philadelphia.

4. In Uniontown, Pa. on July 28: Multiple Uniontown shootings injure 4 people.

5. In Chicago on July 20: 7 shot in Lincoln Park near Fullerton Beach.

6. On Wichita on July 27: Wichita shooting, victim and suspect identified.

7. In Pembroke Park, Florida on July 27: 2 dead, 2 hospitalized after shooting at Pembroke.Parkauto shop.

8. In Memphis on July 24: Three people shot in Highland Heights.

9. In Baltimore on July 20: three injured in dice game shooting in Southwest Baltimore.

10. In South Bend, Indiana on July 21: Police identify man killed on Niles Avenue.

11. In Kansas City, Missouri on July 20: Police are investigating a triple shooting.

12. In San Antonio on July 16: 4 wounded in shooting.

13. In Fort Worth on July 17: 3 people shot on Berry Street in east Fort Worth.

14. In Racine, Wisconsin on July 28: Triple shooting overnight in Racine.

15. In Modesto, California on July 24: Triple shooting at Modesto Park leaves one dead.

16. In St. Louis on July 23: Police investigating triple shooting in North City.

17. In Chicago on July 28: Four shot in North Lawndale.

18. In Jersey City on July 20: Three people shot, one killed.

19. In St. Louis on July 26: Triple shooting leaves one in critical condition.

20. In Detroit on July 24: Persons of interest sought in Detroit triple shooting.

21. In Washington, D.C. on July 28: Early morning triple shooting in Shaw.

22. In Kansas City, Kansas on July 21: Neighbors found teen mortally wounded in triple shooting.

23. In Tulsa on July 18: Police identify 2 killed in shooting outside fitness center.

24. In Flint, Michigan on July 21: One woman dead, two hurt.

25. In Baltimore on July 21: Nine shot overnight in separate Baltimore shootings (one quadruple shooting).

26. In Essex, Maryland on July 28: Two men dead in triple shooting.

29. In Paterson, New Jersey on July 28: Three men shot on Saturday night.

30. In Washington D.C. on July 28: 4 shot near Howard Theatre.

31. In Chicago on July 18: Woman killed three others hurt on Garfield Park porch.

32. In North Charleston on July 22: Three people dead, one injured after shootings.

33. In Birmingham, Alabama on July 28: Three people shot near Ensley club.

34. In Chattanooga, Tennessee on July 25: 3rd suspect arrested in deadly Douglas Heights apartment shooting.

The day after the Gilroy shooting, Mayor Bill de Blasio was fielding questions from reporters about whether the Gilroy shooting resembled some of the recent mass shootings in New York, such as Brooklyn Saturday night.

Not all, said de Blasio. “We don’t really count them that way.”

As Colin Flaherty notes (buy his book if you haven’t), 94 percent of the 36 mass shootings between July 16 and July 28, 2019 across the USA were committed by blacks.

Amazing reporting from Colin! From a methodology standpoint, it wouldn’t be hard to track ALL mass shootings across the nation and break them down by race of suspect(s) on a yearly basis.

Definitely the type of data the Violence Prevention Center isn’t too keen on seeing publicized.

 
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  1. Yes…this is newsworthy, but the mainstream media will not accept this as news because it goes against their pets. Chicago just had a relatively bad weekend with some emergency rooms shutting down, but it isn’t white enough for them to cover.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Dr. Pepper Post#1======According to Mark Twain,if you don't read the news paper you are uninformed.If you do read it,you are misinformed.
    , @RobRich
    That is, gun-control Democrats were suspects in 34 of them. Also known as free-lance
    socialists.

    There. Fixed.
    , @Ryu
    I'm black, work at the hospital you're speaking of, and am typing this from my desk. I'm not sure about the mainstream media, but it was widely reported throughout Chicago publications. It's a pretty insane reality to live in, especially as a young black male that's trying to stay out of the way and work for the lifestyle I desire. Always knowing in the back of my mind, that I'm the perfect description of the next innocent bystander to be killed.

    There's practically nothing that can be done about the violence. Too much blood has been shed, the gang rivalries and shootings won't stop until everyone involved is dead.
  2. I’m going to need some sources on that, even if it’s just a big bunch of links to news stories/police reports.

    • Troll: TKK
    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome


    I’m going to need some sources on that

     

    Here's one (two actually).


    Four people shot in front of Lawndale gas station a week after a shooting in the same location

    Jul 28, 2019

    A CPD officer was heard asking a gas station employee if bullet holes in a wall were from this weeks shooting or last.

     

    , @TKK
    You’re gonna need....

    Or what?

    You aren’t his editor.

    Is reality triggering you?
    , @interesting
    Most of my comments here get deleted and I have no clue why as i'm not near as insane as say TinyDuck is, i came back and my posts are almost never here......... but this link may help you find what you're seeking.

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours
  3. A Black Shooter Committed 34 of Them

    We really need to get this guy before he strikes again.

    • LOL: Gunga Din
    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    From someone who makes his living writing 'Large Group of "Teens" Go On Mass Assault Rampage At County Fair ' headlines.
  4. because, We Wuz Kangz and Queenz and Wakandanzzz an sheit!

  5. Just passing along a meme…isn’t it odd how the news instantly had the El Paso bozo’s unusually-free-of-grammatical-errors manifesto?

    • Replies: @Wally
    https://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mass-shooters-2019.jpg

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/typical-mass-shooter-a-white-male-think-again/
    , @the grand wazoo
    Yes, however it could lead somewhere if an investigator would compare the writing style in the manifesto to the suspects school work. I doubt there would be any similarity found, and that would prove the involvement of at least 1 more person and consequently a conspiracy exists. Conspiracy = 2 or more persons covertly plan, and then commit an overt act in furtherance of a crime. Any news on the reports of 3 or 4 military clad shooters?
  6. In Chiraq this last weekend 2 incidents resulting in 15 shot, one dead. Anybody out there care to guess the race of those involved? Total mayhem , 7 dead and 45 wounded by gunfire in the great gun free zone of Chicago.

  7. Just passing along a meme…isn’t it odd how the news instantly had the El Paso bozo’s unusually-free-of-grammatical-errors manifesto

    and remember, they never did print the manifesto from that black guy that shot up a college in Oregon many years ago

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    As expected, fake news highlights the "ebil White" El Paso bozo while the White hardcore leftist Dayton bozo is swept down the memory hole.
    , @Genrick Yagoda
    Do you recall the name of the shooter in this instance? This is the first I am reading about it.
  8. @Dr. Pepper
    Yes...this is newsworthy, but the mainstream media will not accept this as news because it goes against their pets. Chicago just had a relatively bad weekend with some emergency rooms shutting down, but it isn't white enough for them to cover.

    Dr. Pepper Post#1======According to Mark Twain,if you don’t read the news paper you are uninformed.If you do read it,you are misinformed.

    • Replies: @Anthony Aaron
    Mark Twain is my favorite American author … one of the reasons is that he had an amazing knack of getting to the heart of the matter and expressing it in a manner that was true and understandable by any and all.
  9. @chattanooga gal
    Just passing along a meme…isn’t it odd how the news instantly had the El Paso bozo’s unusually-free-of-grammatical-errors manifesto

    and remember, they never did print the manifesto from that black guy that shot up a college in Oregon many years ago

    As expected, fake news highlights the “ebil White” El Paso bozo while the White hardcore leftist Dayton bozo is swept down the memory hole.

    • Replies: @DINDUNUFFINS,esquire
    Wait, what about these guys...They are not White!!! Why not 24/7 coverage ... https://www.minds.com/media/1004797206692306944
  10. @Hippopotamusdrome


    A Black Shooter Committed 34 of Them

     

    We really need to get this guy before he strikes again.

    From someone who makes his living writing ‘Large Group of “Teens” Go On Mass Assault Rampage At County Fair ‘ headlines.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Jim bob Lassiter Post 10--------Do you ever wish that one or more victims of "Teen" assault rampages carried a 15 shot Glock 19 ?????
  11. @Jim bob Lassiter
    From someone who makes his living writing 'Large Group of "Teens" Go On Mass Assault Rampage At County Fair ' headlines.

    Jim bob Lassiter Post 10——–Do you ever wish that one or more victims of “Teen” assault rampages carried a 15 shot Glock 19 ?????

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Did you notice that there is a reply button under each comment? If you use it, the commenter's name will be at the head of your reply and a reader can see what you are responding to by hovering.
  12. @L0T
    I'm going to need some sources on that, even if it's just a big bunch of links to news stories/police reports.

    I’m going to need some sources on that

    Here’s one (two actually).

    Four people shot in front of Lawndale gas station a week after a shooting in the same location

    Jul 28, 2019

    A CPD officer was heard asking a gas station employee if bullet holes in a wall were from this weeks shooting or last.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    Mogadishu, USA.
  13. Mass shootings get headlines but far more Americans die annually by other means. 400,000 people die annually from heart disease and bad diets, 70,000 deaths annually from drug overdoses, 36,750 estimated traffic fatalities for 2018, less than 400 dead this year from mass shootings and media focuses on the 400. Focusing on the 400 promotes an agenda, the others don’t.

    • Agree: 95Theses
    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Focusing on the very small percentage of mass shooters who are white shows even more of their agenda.
    , @Captain Not Obvious
    You must be a brain surgeon.
    , @Sollipsist
    Let's all welcome Neil deGrasse Tyson to Unz.
    , @SafeNow
    “far more Americans die annually by other means”

    Let’s not forget 250,000 die annually from medical negligence. (2016 Hopkins study). That’s two jumbo jets every day. Everyone knows what to do about this. Almost every voter would vote for the fix, and yet it is not proposed or written about.

  14. It seems most White mass shooters are motivated by philosophical abstract reasons and most Black shooters are motivated by emotional personal reasons.

    Black mass shootings are so numerous that the media finds those stories boring but White mass shootings have many kinds of interesting reasons and manifestos that make for good reading.

    I just wonder when new weapon bans will be enacted as this country will be totally controlled by Democrats in the not too distant future.

    In a Democracy, Demographics is Destiny and it seems our destiny is to be a minority in the not too distant future.

    Maybe our ((rulers)) think that they have the stuff to control the population by using their silver spooned tongues.

    Maybe the USA will break up into separate regions in the not too distant future. But for now the bread and circuses will continue as long as the money holds out.

    • Replies: @DINDUNUFFINS,esquire
    JUST LIKE SOUTH AFRICA!!!! Ooooga Booooga
  15. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Mass shootings will stop completely after guns are confiscated from all white people. Why?

    “Mass shootings” are defined by the media to be “shootings of multiple people that A) result in major mainstream (aka not Fox) media coverage and B) result in subsequent calls for gun control legislation”. When white people are stripped of guns, we all know what will happen. People are going to continue to be shot to death in almost the same numbers as before, but instead of 94% of multiple shooting death incidents being due to inner city blacks, close to 100% will be.

    However, by the already established definition of what a “mass shooting” is, none of these will qualify. They have never been covered by national mainstream media and with guns out of the hands of white people, the mission would be fully accomplished and no Democratic politician would care about further gun control rules for the inner cities.

    “Mass shootings” would drop to zero overnight, while mass shootings would continue unabated throughout the country.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  16. @UsedtobefromFlorida
    Mass shootings get headlines but far more Americans die annually by other means. 400,000 people die annually from heart disease and bad diets, 70,000 deaths annually from drug overdoses, 36,750 estimated traffic fatalities for 2018, less than 400 dead this year from mass shootings and media focuses on the 400. Focusing on the 400 promotes an agenda, the others don't.

    Focusing on the very small percentage of mass shooters who are white shows even more of their agenda.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  17. The loon left including the (((msm))) isn’t so much trying to ignore groid violence as much as they’re simply accepting of it.My two cents anyway.In their eyes,their pet baby black boys are justified in all they do.

  18. @Sick of Orcs
    As expected, fake news highlights the "ebil White" El Paso bozo while the White hardcore leftist Dayton bozo is swept down the memory hole.

    Wait, what about these guys…They are not White!!! Why not 24/7 coverage … https://www.minds.com/media/1004797206692306944

  19. @europeasant
    It seems most White mass shooters are motivated by philosophical abstract reasons and most Black shooters are motivated by emotional personal reasons.

    Black mass shootings are so numerous that the media finds those stories boring but White mass shootings have many kinds of interesting reasons and manifestos that make for good reading.

    I just wonder when new weapon bans will be enacted as this country will be totally controlled by Democrats in the not too distant future.

    In a Democracy, Demographics is Destiny and it seems our destiny is to be a minority in the not too distant future.

    Maybe our ((rulers)) think that they have the stuff to control the population by using their silver spooned tongues.

    Maybe the USA will break up into separate regions in the not too distant future. But for now the bread and circuses will continue as long as the money holds out.

    JUST LIKE SOUTH AFRICA!!!! Ooooga Booooga

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS

    JUST LIKE SOUTH AFRICA!!!! Ooooga Booooga
     
    There is plenty of evidence that allowing the wrong kind of people in your country is bad.

    The former white people who built South Africa are now under attack, and many cannot afford to escape.

    Whites are a group, whites have interests, and whites should not apologize.

    Personally, I've come to the conclusion that segregation would be a good thing. Unlike people groups do not get along.
  20. @Dr. Pepper
    Yes...this is newsworthy, but the mainstream media will not accept this as news because it goes against their pets. Chicago just had a relatively bad weekend with some emergency rooms shutting down, but it isn't white enough for them to cover.

    That is, gun-control Democrats were suspects in 34 of them. Also known as free-lance
    socialists.

    There. Fixed.

  21. Well, well, well.

    It appears Chicago has an “El Paso” event every week end….but since it is black-on-black, nobody cares !!! HA HA

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/08/chicago_hospital_overwhelmed_with_gunshot_victims_stops_accepting_new_patients_.html

    • Agree: Female in FL
  22. @Hippopotamusdrome


    I’m going to need some sources on that

     

    Here's one (two actually).


    Four people shot in front of Lawndale gas station a week after a shooting in the same location

    Jul 28, 2019

    A CPD officer was heard asking a gas station employee if bullet holes in a wall were from this weeks shooting or last.

     

    Mogadishu, USA.

  23. Again, well, well, well….

    It appears the “Religion of Peace” doesn’t like “Multi-Culturalism”, nor do they care for Diversity or “The Others” from moving into their areas……my my, what are we to do.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/08/india-revokes-special-status-for-muslim-majority-kashmir-may-open-up-region-to-hindu-immigration/#more-291392

    I am sure we can blame the Orange Man for this.

    If my old feeble memory still serves me, I do recall, Hindi India and Muslim Pakistan both have the White Man’s Nukes….this is going to be fun to watch.

    The Muslims NEVER BACK DOWN since for them, dying for the cause is the way to 72 Epstein Virgins. And, for the Hindi, well if they won’t barbecue a cow, then what makes us think they will fire bomb Muslims?

    I was speaking to a relative of mine, last night, who is both a Race Realist and a Conspiracy Realist, and he mentioned that we have had 3 “mass shooting” in one week, AND, the Iranians taking over ships, and now this….why? According to him, it is to get Epstein off the Front Page since there are HUNDREDS of powerful, rich and sleazy men who are going to be going down on the Epstein affair…..(all puns intended)

    My relative said we will be going to war with Iran either on the 18 or 28th of this month, since one of those 2 days is significant for the “Elite”. The “Elite” always follow myths, protocols, and significant signs and numbers….Let’s see.

    I’m going to need a bigger popcorn bowl.

    • Replies: @Hillbob
    You must be an idiot to watch as war breaks out and enjoy it.... with terrible and maybe irreparable consequences in the offing. Might the last bowl of popcorn you'll have
  24. Current events look as if a phoenix has decided its time to die has come.
    Assembling its own funeral pyre.
    Then igniting the conflagration by clapping its wings.
    Out of the ashes arises a new phoenix, same as the old phoenix.
    The ashes (eternal real wealth) are gathered up by the new phoenix and placed into a sacred urn.

    Empires come and go. The hidden hand always survives. Different gloves. Same hand.

  25. Hell…the carnage in Chicongo this past weekend rivaled anything in El Paso or Dayton. I posted 10 months ago that an underground race war had begun between Blacks and Hispanics in Chicago and it reached a peak this past weekend. I don’t know why it was so bad on Friday and Saturday night but my guess is that police resources were all moved downtown to protect Lollapalooza. It seems the worst shootings occurred where those 2 demographics are living next door to each other (the 10th District or North Lawndale which had seventeen shot within 2 hours) and where black gangs are trying to take over the drug sales from the Hispanics (Latin Kings mostly).
    Mount Sinai hospital is a Level 1 trauma center and located right smack dab in the middle of that war zone (North Lawndale-Douglas Park). They have constructed a large steel cage on the entrance to their emergency room that looks like it belongs in Bartertown from Mad Max. After receiving a dozen gunshot “victims” Saturday night the hospital was overwhelmed, went into lockdown and simply locked the cage so no new patients or accompanying gang members could get in. This is a top tier hospital in BRA folks.
    Interesting side note: I still have an old informant within the Latin Kings. A few months ago he/she overheard a conversation between a Chicago Latin King and another Latin King from New York City. He was bragging about how the CPD had their hands tied and that Chicago was a wide-open city for gangs. The New York bro-chacho seemed all in and more than happy to move to Chicago with his own crew. The only thing they were really worried about were the black gangs in Chicago. This was the first time in 25 years I ever heard a Hispanic in Chicago admitting they were scared of blacks. Even more interesting was that they both asked their Mexican Sinaloa connection for some backup (I’m guessing manpower and firepower) and the cartel in Mexico refused! Now the cartel’s decision may have reversed recently but your guess is as good as mine as to why they refused a request like that from a paisano.
    Another side note: you can download free police scanner apps and listen in on the Chicago urban warfare if you have free time over the weekend. The CPD is probably the only big city department that doesn’t use 10-codes so you can clearly understand what the dispatcher and police are saying over the radio. It’s damn well near to doing a ridealong from the comfort of your sofa. I noticed people from all over the world love to listen to the chases, shootings and general mayhem in the black ghettos of District 4 (Zone 8), District 11 (Zone 10) and District 15 (Zone 12). Of course, the real action here starts after 10pm Central Time on a hot Friday or Saturday summer night.

  26. @CENTURION
    Again, well, well, well....

    It appears the "Religion of Peace" doesn't like "Multi-Culturalism", nor do they care for Diversity or "The Others" from moving into their areas......my my, what are we to do.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/08/india-revokes-special-status-for-muslim-majority-kashmir-may-open-up-region-to-hindu-immigration/#more-291392

    I am sure we can blame the Orange Man for this.

    If my old feeble memory still serves me, I do recall, Hindi India and Muslim Pakistan both have the White Man's Nukes....this is going to be fun to watch.

    The Muslims NEVER BACK DOWN since for them, dying for the cause is the way to 72 Epstein Virgins. And, for the Hindi, well if they won't barbecue a cow, then what makes us think they will fire bomb Muslims?

    I was speaking to a relative of mine, last night, who is both a Race Realist and a Conspiracy Realist, and he mentioned that we have had 3 "mass shooting" in one week, AND, the Iranians taking over ships, and now this....why? According to him, it is to get Epstein off the Front Page since there are HUNDREDS of powerful, rich and sleazy men who are going to be going down on the Epstein affair.....(all puns intended)

    My relative said we will be going to war with Iran either on the 18 or 28th of this month, since one of those 2 days is significant for the "Elite". The "Elite" always follow myths, protocols, and significant signs and numbers....Let's see.

    I'm going to need a bigger popcorn bowl.

    You must be an idiot to watch as war breaks out and enjoy it…. with terrible and maybe irreparable consequences in the offing. Might the last bowl of popcorn you’ll have

    • Replies: @CENTURION
    I can never understand those who have no ability to grasp any SARCASM of infantile humor.....

    You don't deserve a response more than the above........
    , @Counterinsurgency

    You must be an idiot to watch as war breaks out and enjoy it…. with terrible and maybe irreparable consequences in the offing. Might (be) the last bowl of popcorn you’ll have
     
    Sometimes graveyard humor is the only humor available. If you don't have something to break the tension, you get adrenaline exhaustion, which is not good. In a way, CENTURION is trying to ensure that it's _not_ his last bowl of popcorn. Ours either.

    Counterinsurgency
    , @Jim Christian

    Might the last bowl of popcorn you’ll have
     
    Popcorn is highly overrated.
  27. @Hillbob
    You must be an idiot to watch as war breaks out and enjoy it.... with terrible and maybe irreparable consequences in the offing. Might the last bowl of popcorn you'll have

    I can never understand those who have no ability to grasp any SARCASM of infantile humor…..

    You don’t deserve a response more than the above……..

    • LOL: Love Street
  28. those are some seriously vintage 1911s. i doubt anybody gets shot with one of those most years.

    speaking of that, i bet even new 1911s are not used in shootings very often. maybe a few self defense shootings per year.

  29. One thing never reported about these young White guys staging mass shootings in that many or most of them are on, or have been on these medications, Prozac, Ridilin, Xanax, etc. After all, big Pharma would not like people to know that.

    • Replies: @Anon
    All the races take psychotropic medication ,not only whites . People are medicated because of mental problems , adaptation failures , impulsivity associated with some personality disordes , impulsivity associated with low IQ etc....

    Medication can relieve symptoms , can help to a certain extent , but does not make you happy , and does not make you a good guy .
  30. @DINDUNUFFINS,esquire
    JUST LIKE SOUTH AFRICA!!!! Ooooga Booooga

    JUST LIKE SOUTH AFRICA!!!! Ooooga Booooga

    There is plenty of evidence that allowing the wrong kind of people in your country is bad.

    The former white people who built South Africa are now under attack, and many cannot afford to escape.

    Whites are a group, whites have interests, and whites should not apologize.

    Personally, I’ve come to the conclusion that segregation would be a good thing. Unlike people groups do not get along.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  31. @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Dr. Pepper Post#1======According to Mark Twain,if you don't read the news paper you are uninformed.If you do read it,you are misinformed.

    Mark Twain is my favorite American author … one of the reasons is that he had an amazing knack of getting to the heart of the matter and expressing it in a manner that was true and understandable by any and all.

  32. We read that there have been 255 mass shootings so far this year, but nobody stops and wonders why some of them elicit nationwide prayer vigils, condemnations of our orange Mussolini Racist in Chief, and demands that guns be turned in to authorities.

    I watch the news from Detroit most evenings, and I realized thanks to this article that I am completely inured to mass shootings and gun violence of all kinds. It’s constant, especially on weekends in the summer, we barely notice it.

  33. @Sick of Orcs
    Just passing along a meme...isn't it odd how the news instantly had the El Paso bozo's unusually-free-of-grammatical-errors manifesto?
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    We need common sense negro control.
    , @bruce county
    17 shootings in Toronto over our holiday long weekend.
    Of course the press will never name or describe suspects or their race.
    You can guess but you know that will make you a racist....lol.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5728530/civic-holiday-weekend-toronto-shootings/

  34. @UsedtobefromFlorida
    Mass shootings get headlines but far more Americans die annually by other means. 400,000 people die annually from heart disease and bad diets, 70,000 deaths annually from drug overdoses, 36,750 estimated traffic fatalities for 2018, less than 400 dead this year from mass shootings and media focuses on the 400. Focusing on the 400 promotes an agenda, the others don't.

    You must be a brain surgeon.

  35. @Hillbob
    You must be an idiot to watch as war breaks out and enjoy it.... with terrible and maybe irreparable consequences in the offing. Might the last bowl of popcorn you'll have

    You must be an idiot to watch as war breaks out and enjoy it…. with terrible and maybe irreparable consequences in the offing. Might (be) the last bowl of popcorn you’ll have

    Sometimes graveyard humor is the only humor available. If you don’t have something to break the tension, you get adrenaline exhaustion, which is not good. In a way, CENTURION is trying to ensure that it’s _not_ his last bowl of popcorn. Ours either.

    Counterinsurgency

  36. At the risk of making myself very unpopular hereabouts, led me add that Mr. Kersey’s article, if not quite incorrect, at least needs an asterisk appended to it.

    There are no disputing the statistics cited: They are accurate. What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”. In other words, their definitions are being stretched in order to flatter their respective pet political concerns.

    True, one need only look to Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or any other Black-majority city in the US to see the alarming rate of gun violence, often involving multiple victims. However, there is a big caveat to be made here. Consider this shooting, which just occurred yesterday in Brooklyn:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/08/05/shooting-at-crown-heights-vigil-injures-four/

    An early-morning vigil in Crown Heights was violently interrupted Monday when a shooter opened fire, injuring four people, police said[…]

    Two men and two women were shot, though all were in stable condition as of Monday morning, according to a police spokesperson[…]

    Police, who said the shooting was “targeted” and “gang-related,” taped off the street and were collecting evidence later Monday morning[…]

    Most of the aforementioned crimes cited by Messrs. Kersey and Flaherty were of a similar nature: Borne from personal or inter/intra factional (i.e. gang) disputes which featured perpetrators who kept specific targets in mind. Innocent bystanders often become involved, but usually are not themselves the focus of the perpetrator.

    The recent shooting sprees are rather different. None of the people shot at, say, the Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas were specifically chosen by Stephen Paddock to die, much less did he know any of them individually. To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets. As such he shot as many as he possibly could in the time allotted to him simply because that was the point.

    So what is a “mass shooting”? If we understand its meaning as per Mr. Kersey’s interpretation of it—as any shooting with multiple victims—then his thesis would be correct. However, the current popular definition of a “mass shooting” appears to be rather more limited: A violent event, usually involving a lone perpetrator, occurring unexpectedly within crowded public spaces, with no specific targets, and often with, at best, only a vague explanation as to why it occurred at all. Defined in that way, then it becomes immediately clear that the urban violence cited in the article, atrocious though it is, cannot be considered in the same light with the shootings by Stephen Paddock, Santino Legan, Patrick Crusius, et al. Which is not to say that Blacks or Hispanics are not capable of such crimes (e.g. Nikolas Cruz), but it must be admitted that when defined as per the above, Whites would seem to hold a statically significant lead.

    Stereotypes, one often hears from those whose beliefs would be categorized in the dissident right, are often proven true; and minority groups complaining about them are often harangued with the sort of glib slogans especially beloved by Americans—brief, catchy, but usually meaningless—such as “facts don’t care about your feelings” or whatever. They would be right to point to the general veracity of those stereotypes, at any rate. Blacks and Hispanics (among many other minority groups) ought not to ignore the very real faults that exist within their communities and in their characters. Instead of pretending they do not exist, it would be for the collective good—theirs as well as their neighbors—to face up to their shortcomings and strive to do better. We cannot pretend as if Baltimore or Washington, DC have not suffered and would not benefit from collective introspection and will to improve.

    But as we all know, everybody has a little ox they do not want gored; and when unflattering stereotypes are turned onto Whites, one never fails to encounter an “alt-right” opinion piece that oleaginously denies them, absolving their kinfolk of any need for collective responsibility.

    Why Whites are more prone to these kill sprees in public spaces I have no idea, though do have a number of theories. Perhaps Whites are still grappling with the fallout of the close of the frontier. Maybe it has to do with the left’s attacks on “toxic masculinity”; or on the anonymity of urban (and increasingly even rural) life in the US, the dwindling opportunities to be known. Probably we have reached a point in history where the expression of American individualism can only be successful when taken to extremes; whether it is by taking selfies from dangerous locales, engaging in life-threatening activities, “coming out” as the latest sexual minority du jour, or shooting as many random people in public. For those who cannot achieve fame by honorable means, infamy may be suitable enough. Or it could also be all of the above—or none. This will be a matter for future historians and sociologists to ponder.

    Whatever the roots of this phenomenon, it will not matter whether guns are banned or not, whether “mental health” becomes a priority or not. None of those things are likely to occur anyway; no political will on either side of the US political spectrum. One thing I am fairly certain of: These shootings will get worse before they get better.

    • Agree: The scalpel
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    The word is "amok" or running amok, and originates with the Malays, but all races and cultures are prone to such spree killings. Before guns other weapons were used.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    First, let me say that your comment is thoughtful and evenhanded. So the tone of this reply is not meant to come across as snippy or provoking. There is clearly a difference between the motives of most mass shootings (for sake of argument, I mean a shooting by one individual with multiple victims) between blacks and whites. Being aware of that difference is important. Where I disagree, is with the suggestion that white mass shootings are all random and without purpose.* I think the PTP definitely want the public perception to be that these shootings are just random. If there is no cause, no human factor, then it's that much easier to make the case that banning guns is the proper solution.

    In an effort to keep the reply short, I am going to start with the more well known school shootings: Columbine, Sandy Hook, Stoneman, and SFHS. If the official stories are to be believed (I am very skeptical of the events surrounding Sandy Hook) every shooting involved a shooter that was reported to be bullied, mentally ill, a loner, on medication, or some combination of the former. I believe all were current or former students of the targeted school. That itself makes those shootings not random at all. In fact its very possible in each of those cases the shooters were motivated at least in part by revenge.

    To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets.
     
    The above statement is a bit contradictory as you first concede we don't know what motivated the shooter and then in your next sentence you speak directly to what was in the shooter's mind. The unfortunate fact is we will never actually know one way or the other, because the shooter is dead. The LV shooting is an extremely murky incident comprising of a even vaguer individual. I don't think it can be stated with confidence either way whether their were motives behind the shooter's targets.

    The El Paso and NZ shooters both left behind supposed manifestos outlying their grievances. The NZ shooter's target was clearly not random and the El Paso shooter's motives are yet to be fully understood. As he is alive, we may get a better idea as to what they were.

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was not random.

    To briefly summarize, I don't think most mass shootings are as random as you suggest. Even if they were, I don't really think that's makes them any more terrible than what goes on in the inner cities every single day. In fact what blacks are doing to each other on a daily basis is in many ways preventable, but our current political climate has essentially outlawed dealing with that problem in any pragmatic way.

    *For sake of argument, I'm going to address the issue as if the general narrative behind each shooting is correct. I have no interest in getting off course with the false flag stuff, at least not here.
    , @Rouetheday
    You make good points here, but instead of making your points at an obscure blog, perhaps you should direct them at the CBS This Morning TV show. Tuesday morning host Anthony Mason reported that according to some outfit called the Gun Violence Archive the U.S. has endured more than 250 'mass shootings' so far in 2019. Now, obviously, they're including gangland style shootings and not just the kind of incidents that occurred in El Paso and Dayton. Not surprisingly, Mason didn't bother to admit that around 80% of these incidents were perpetrated by black people. He was happy for his audience to assume that most of them were the work of monstrous white people. In fact, immediately after quoting these figures he segued into an interview with the acting Homeland Security Secretary where his first question was about the supposed scourge of 'white supremacy'. Frustratingly, he got no pushback from Secretary McAleenan (the same guy who wilted in front of Elijah Cummings).
    , @Jim in Jersey
    Once again we find someone who believes that if you simply change the definition of a term that you change the behavior. I think crime is too high? Have police stop responding to shoplifting and other non-violent property crimes. See? Crime goes down. We’re doing a great job. Too many blacks involved in mass shootings? Change the definition of mass shootings. Now if the cause involved sneakers or the last chicken wing or your baby mamas first child crying too much then it’s no longer considered a mass shooting. The same number of people are dead the same or different weapons may be used but if we can somehow alter the numbers to deflect Attention from the very obvious facts then we can keep the numbers down and push our own agenda.

    Your nonsense has been tried year before. It’s been tried everywhere else with great success but you won’t find that success here. You’ve been called out and if the only thing you can do is change the definition then you failed and you’ve lost.
    , @Worst White
    That's an incredible leap of intellectual folly. The very thing you describe is not a thing....Whites are largely NOT inclined to criminality. Blacks overwhelmingly ARE!
    , @Twodees Partain
    " What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”."

    That is not the case with this article. The author is using the definition applied by the police jurisdictions reporting these shootings. Your claim that this way of defining the term comes from some group you call the " pro-gun, White nationalist right" is false. Use of that type of label for a large segment of society is abhorrent to me, because it's exactly the way the MSM refers to people that they want to demonize.

    Here's the big difference between the "mass shootings" by whites that you're on about and the multiple shootings by blacks: The mass shootings are fakes. The black multiple shootings happen all the time.

    Don't worry too much about becoming unpopular here. There are plenty of egghead types here who will defend your snidely worded assaults on us simply because your posts are so long and/or because you're Hispanic. I'm not one of those, but they do exist here.

  37. @Hillbob
    You must be an idiot to watch as war breaks out and enjoy it.... with terrible and maybe irreparable consequences in the offing. Might the last bowl of popcorn you'll have

    Might the last bowl of popcorn you’ll have

    Popcorn is highly overrated.

  38. I have noticed the fundamental difference between black and white ethos.

    Blacks value never backing down. Nipsey Hussle’s funeral there was much of this said. But if you have a never back down ethos then that means there is no reflection on your own actions, no reasoning out of issues, no empathy. Issues boil up and people snap. It becomes escalation dominance.

    Whites value never quitting. Never quitting to an extreme is how you get deplorables: they neglect their own needs and health in pursuit of the job.

    Fairly massive difference in societies from this one simple difference in mindset.

  39. What is the definition of “mass shooting”? The shootings in which a dozen or dozens are killed mostly seem to involve white shooters.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    Exactly the right question. The term “mass killing” or “mass shooting” has been used by police authorities to describe single incidents in which four or more random individuals were killed, not counting the shooter. These are rare; there have been maybe 120 of these in the last fifty years. About half were done by whites, a quarter by blacks, etc.

    We are told that there are 250+ “mass shootings” this year, but this is a much looser use of the term by news outlets, not law enforcement. It just means that four or more people got shot, not killed, at some incident. As you can see on the graphic contributed by @Wally on this page, the shooters are almost entirely black guys, and most of them live in Democrat-run Paradise cities like Baltimore, Chicago and Detroit.
  40. if they do a door to door gun grab…dont answer the door..they cant come in without a warrant

    • Replies: @bruce county
    I am not up on US constitutional law. But if what donkey face Kamala seeks; to do door to door sweeps using data bases of gun owners to begin with, and a law is struck to confiscate weapons I think they will be plowing right through your Fourth Amendment Rights and front door.. . Your 4th Amendment Rights will mean jack shit. It is not going to come to that. If everyone refused to turn over their weapons what are they going to do.?? Legal and fully registered gun ownership is barely 2 million in the US. So are they going to start the gun confiscation by jailing a possible 2 million people who refuse to turn over their guns?? I don't think so. They would have a problem with the other gun owners coming to their defence. They would have hundreds of thousands Randy Weaver/ Ruby Ridge situations.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153
    , @Jim in Jersey
    Considering they can’t bypass the constitution or the Second Amendment and have no power to curtail gun rights and a federal level at least, this is all a moot point.

    The state gets around it by adding “provisions“ to the second amendment . I don’t know if that’s ever been challenged but then again we don’t get to make the rules. Constitutional conventions are difficult though. These minor end runs are easier and the weight adds up equally over time.
  41. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    At the risk of making myself very unpopular hereabouts, led me add that Mr. Kersey’s article, if not quite incorrect, at least needs an asterisk appended to it.

    There are no disputing the statistics cited: They are accurate. What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”. In other words, their definitions are being stretched in order to flatter their respective pet political concerns.

    True, one need only look to Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or any other Black-majority city in the US to see the alarming rate of gun violence, often involving multiple victims. However, there is a big caveat to be made here. Consider this shooting, which just occurred yesterday in Brooklyn:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/08/05/shooting-at-crown-heights-vigil-injures-four/


    An early-morning vigil in Crown Heights was violently interrupted Monday when a shooter opened fire, injuring four people, police said[...]

    Two men and two women were shot, though all were in stable condition as of Monday morning, according to a police spokesperson[...]

    Police, who said the shooting was “targeted” and “gang-related,” taped off the street and were collecting evidence later Monday morning[...]
     

    Most of the aforementioned crimes cited by Messrs. Kersey and Flaherty were of a similar nature: Borne from personal or inter/intra factional (i.e. gang) disputes which featured perpetrators who kept specific targets in mind. Innocent bystanders often become involved, but usually are not themselves the focus of the perpetrator.

    The recent shooting sprees are rather different. None of the people shot at, say, the Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas were specifically chosen by Stephen Paddock to die, much less did he know any of them individually. To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets. As such he shot as many as he possibly could in the time allotted to him simply because that was the point.

    So what is a “mass shooting”? If we understand its meaning as per Mr. Kersey’s interpretation of it—as any shooting with multiple victims—then his thesis would be correct. However, the current popular definition of a “mass shooting” appears to be rather more limited: A violent event, usually involving a lone perpetrator, occurring unexpectedly within crowded public spaces, with no specific targets, and often with, at best, only a vague explanation as to why it occurred at all. Defined in that way, then it becomes immediately clear that the urban violence cited in the article, atrocious though it is, cannot be considered in the same light with the shootings by Stephen Paddock, Santino Legan, Patrick Crusius, et al. Which is not to say that Blacks or Hispanics are not capable of such crimes (e.g. Nikolas Cruz), but it must be admitted that when defined as per the above, Whites would seem to hold a statically significant lead.

    Stereotypes, one often hears from those whose beliefs would be categorized in the dissident right, are often proven true; and minority groups complaining about them are often harangued with the sort of glib slogans especially beloved by Americans—brief, catchy, but usually meaningless—such as “facts don’t care about your feelings” or whatever. They would be right to point to the general veracity of those stereotypes, at any rate. Blacks and Hispanics (among many other minority groups) ought not to ignore the very real faults that exist within their communities and in their characters. Instead of pretending they do not exist, it would be for the collective good—theirs as well as their neighbors—to face up to their shortcomings and strive to do better. We cannot pretend as if Baltimore or Washington, DC have not suffered and would not benefit from collective introspection and will to improve.

    But as we all know, everybody has a little ox they do not want gored; and when unflattering stereotypes are turned onto Whites, one never fails to encounter an “alt-right” opinion piece that oleaginously denies them, absolving their kinfolk of any need for collective responsibility.

    Why Whites are more prone to these kill sprees in public spaces I have no idea, though do have a number of theories. Perhaps Whites are still grappling with the fallout of the close of the frontier. Maybe it has to do with the left’s attacks on “toxic masculinity”; or on the anonymity of urban (and increasingly even rural) life in the US, the dwindling opportunities to be known. Probably we have reached a point in history where the expression of American individualism can only be successful when taken to extremes; whether it is by taking selfies from dangerous locales, engaging in life-threatening activities, “coming out” as the latest sexual minority du jour, or shooting as many random people in public. For those who cannot achieve fame by honorable means, infamy may be suitable enough. Or it could also be all of the above—or none. This will be a matter for future historians and sociologists to ponder.

    Whatever the roots of this phenomenon, it will not matter whether guns are banned or not, whether “mental health” becomes a priority or not. None of those things are likely to occur anyway; no political will on either side of the US political spectrum. One thing I am fairly certain of: These shootings will get worse before they get better.

    The word is “amok” or running amok, and originates with the Malays, but all races and cultures are prone to such spree killings. Before guns other weapons were used.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    The example that came to my mind was the Viking tradition of the Berserker.
  42. Paul Kersey does good work, but I think a lot of folks regard a “mass shooting” as unprovoked, with no conflict leading up to the shooting, and random in its selection of victims. Shootings with multiple victims after barroom brawls, drug deals gone bad, and gangbanger turf shootings aren’t what they have in mind.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    "Shootings with multiple victims after barroom brawls, drug deals gone bad, and gangbanger turf shootings aren’t what they have in mind".

    Well of course not because that wouldn't fit their narrative of "only whites" committing mass shootings. Only whites are a threat to national security and he democrats pets of all colors and creeds.
    Explicitly and catagorically micro managing the white population to disarm us is exactly what they are doing!!!
    , @Genrick Yagoda
    So when Dindus shoot 22 people at an Arts Festival in New Jersey that isn't actually a mass shooting?

    What you are trying to do is define a mass shooting so that only white people commit them.
    , @Jim in Jersey
    I think a lot of folks

    Well, you’ve certainly researched this topic to death so I guess we’re all wrong on our side.

    I’ll take PK’s statistics over your personalized, nonsensical agenda anyway.
  43. @L0T
    I'm going to need some sources on that, even if it's just a big bunch of links to news stories/police reports.

    You’re gonna need….

    Or what?

    You aren’t his editor.

    Is reality triggering you?

  44. “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.”

    ― Mark Twain

    • Replies: @bjondo
    Especially when the story creators
    are willful liars intent on harm.

    5ds
  45. @UsedtobefromFlorida
    Mass shootings get headlines but far more Americans die annually by other means. 400,000 people die annually from heart disease and bad diets, 70,000 deaths annually from drug overdoses, 36,750 estimated traffic fatalities for 2018, less than 400 dead this year from mass shootings and media focuses on the 400. Focusing on the 400 promotes an agenda, the others don't.

    Let’s all welcome Neil deGrasse Tyson to Unz.

  46. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @gotmituns
    One thing never reported about these young White guys staging mass shootings in that many or most of them are on, or have been on these medications, Prozac, Ridilin, Xanax, etc. After all, big Pharma would not like people to know that.

    All the races take psychotropic medication ,not only whites . People are medicated because of mental problems , adaptation failures , impulsivity associated with some personality disordes , impulsivity associated with low IQ etc….

    Medication can relieve symptoms , can help to a certain extent , but does not make you happy , and does not make you a good guy .

  47. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    At the risk of making myself very unpopular hereabouts, led me add that Mr. Kersey’s article, if not quite incorrect, at least needs an asterisk appended to it.

    There are no disputing the statistics cited: They are accurate. What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”. In other words, their definitions are being stretched in order to flatter their respective pet political concerns.

    True, one need only look to Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or any other Black-majority city in the US to see the alarming rate of gun violence, often involving multiple victims. However, there is a big caveat to be made here. Consider this shooting, which just occurred yesterday in Brooklyn:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/08/05/shooting-at-crown-heights-vigil-injures-four/


    An early-morning vigil in Crown Heights was violently interrupted Monday when a shooter opened fire, injuring four people, police said[...]

    Two men and two women were shot, though all were in stable condition as of Monday morning, according to a police spokesperson[...]

    Police, who said the shooting was “targeted” and “gang-related,” taped off the street and were collecting evidence later Monday morning[...]
     

    Most of the aforementioned crimes cited by Messrs. Kersey and Flaherty were of a similar nature: Borne from personal or inter/intra factional (i.e. gang) disputes which featured perpetrators who kept specific targets in mind. Innocent bystanders often become involved, but usually are not themselves the focus of the perpetrator.

    The recent shooting sprees are rather different. None of the people shot at, say, the Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas were specifically chosen by Stephen Paddock to die, much less did he know any of them individually. To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets. As such he shot as many as he possibly could in the time allotted to him simply because that was the point.

    So what is a “mass shooting”? If we understand its meaning as per Mr. Kersey’s interpretation of it—as any shooting with multiple victims—then his thesis would be correct. However, the current popular definition of a “mass shooting” appears to be rather more limited: A violent event, usually involving a lone perpetrator, occurring unexpectedly within crowded public spaces, with no specific targets, and often with, at best, only a vague explanation as to why it occurred at all. Defined in that way, then it becomes immediately clear that the urban violence cited in the article, atrocious though it is, cannot be considered in the same light with the shootings by Stephen Paddock, Santino Legan, Patrick Crusius, et al. Which is not to say that Blacks or Hispanics are not capable of such crimes (e.g. Nikolas Cruz), but it must be admitted that when defined as per the above, Whites would seem to hold a statically significant lead.

    Stereotypes, one often hears from those whose beliefs would be categorized in the dissident right, are often proven true; and minority groups complaining about them are often harangued with the sort of glib slogans especially beloved by Americans—brief, catchy, but usually meaningless—such as “facts don’t care about your feelings” or whatever. They would be right to point to the general veracity of those stereotypes, at any rate. Blacks and Hispanics (among many other minority groups) ought not to ignore the very real faults that exist within their communities and in their characters. Instead of pretending they do not exist, it would be for the collective good—theirs as well as their neighbors—to face up to their shortcomings and strive to do better. We cannot pretend as if Baltimore or Washington, DC have not suffered and would not benefit from collective introspection and will to improve.

    But as we all know, everybody has a little ox they do not want gored; and when unflattering stereotypes are turned onto Whites, one never fails to encounter an “alt-right” opinion piece that oleaginously denies them, absolving their kinfolk of any need for collective responsibility.

    Why Whites are more prone to these kill sprees in public spaces I have no idea, though do have a number of theories. Perhaps Whites are still grappling with the fallout of the close of the frontier. Maybe it has to do with the left’s attacks on “toxic masculinity”; or on the anonymity of urban (and increasingly even rural) life in the US, the dwindling opportunities to be known. Probably we have reached a point in history where the expression of American individualism can only be successful when taken to extremes; whether it is by taking selfies from dangerous locales, engaging in life-threatening activities, “coming out” as the latest sexual minority du jour, or shooting as many random people in public. For those who cannot achieve fame by honorable means, infamy may be suitable enough. Or it could also be all of the above—or none. This will be a matter for future historians and sociologists to ponder.

    Whatever the roots of this phenomenon, it will not matter whether guns are banned or not, whether “mental health” becomes a priority or not. None of those things are likely to occur anyway; no political will on either side of the US political spectrum. One thing I am fairly certain of: These shootings will get worse before they get better.

    First, let me say that your comment is thoughtful and evenhanded. So the tone of this reply is not meant to come across as snippy or provoking. There is clearly a difference between the motives of most mass shootings (for sake of argument, I mean a shooting by one individual with multiple victims) between blacks and whites. Being aware of that difference is important. Where I disagree, is with the suggestion that white mass shootings are all random and without purpose.* I think the PTP definitely want the public perception to be that these shootings are just random. If there is no cause, no human factor, then it’s that much easier to make the case that banning guns is the proper solution.

    In an effort to keep the reply short, I am going to start with the more well known school shootings: Columbine, Sandy Hook, Stoneman, and SFHS. If the official stories are to be believed (I am very skeptical of the events surrounding Sandy Hook) every shooting involved a shooter that was reported to be bullied, mentally ill, a loner, on medication, or some combination of the former. I believe all were current or former students of the targeted school. That itself makes those shootings not random at all. In fact its very possible in each of those cases the shooters were motivated at least in part by revenge.

    To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets.

    The above statement is a bit contradictory as you first concede we don’t know what motivated the shooter and then in your next sentence you speak directly to what was in the shooter’s mind. The unfortunate fact is we will never actually know one way or the other, because the shooter is dead. The LV shooting is an extremely murky incident comprising of a even vaguer individual. I don’t think it can be stated with confidence either way whether their were motives behind the shooter’s targets.

    The El Paso and NZ shooters both left behind supposed manifestos outlying their grievances. The NZ shooter’s target was clearly not random and the El Paso shooter’s motives are yet to be fully understood. As he is alive, we may get a better idea as to what they were.

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was not random.

    To briefly summarize, I don’t think most mass shootings are as random as you suggest. Even if they were, I don’t really think that’s makes them any more terrible than what goes on in the inner cities every single day. In fact what blacks are doing to each other on a daily basis is in many ways preventable, but our current political climate has essentially outlawed dealing with that problem in any pragmatic way.

    *For sake of argument, I’m going to address the issue as if the general narrative behind each shooting is correct. I have no interest in getting off course with the false flag stuff, at least not here.

    • Replies: @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Where I disagree, is with the suggestion that white mass shootings are all random and without purpose.* I think the PTP definitely want the public perception to be that these shootings are just random. If there is no cause, no human factor, then it’s that much easier to make the case that banning guns is the proper solution.

    (*For sake of argument, I’m going to address the issue as if the general narrative behind each shooting is correct. I have no interest in getting off course with the false flag stuff, at least not here.)
     
    I agree with you on this point. If I may put it another way, all these events had a motivation. The difference is that gang warfare, however repugnant we may find it, at least seems somewhat logical to the wider public: “A” slights “B”, therefore “B” demands satisfaction from “A”, even if it is merely revenge.

    In the case of the shooting sprees targeting innocents, there is no such consolation. Often, the motivation may, perhaps, be rooted in reasonable concerns, but the actions which result from them may seem anything but reasonable. Other times whatever evidence, if any, there remains of motive will be too cryptic to fulfill the public’s desire for an explanation. And, again, the fact that innocents are specifically targeted is a major difference.

    The above statement is a bit contradictory as you first concede we don’t know what motivated the shooter and then in your next sentence you speak directly to what was in the shooter’s mind.
     
    True. I do not purport to know what was in his mind. At the same time, considering the manner in which he planned and executed his crime, to say nothing of the death toll he exacted, I believe we can safely presume that he did not have any specific people targeted, nor did he even know any of his victims prior.

    The El Paso and NZ shooters both left behind supposed manifestos outlying their grievances. The NZ shooter’s target was clearly not random and the El Paso shooter’s motives are yet to be fully understood. As he is alive, we may get a better idea as to what they were.

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was not random.
     
    These were not “random” locations in the sense that the perpetrator deliberately chose them, sometimes with careful consideration for distance, escape routes, maximum amount of casualties, etc.

    To the victims, however, these locations would indeed seem to be “random” as it would be impossible for them to guess the rationale, often specious, that the perpetrator employed to justify their act and its place of execution. For example, most people know well enough to avoid disreputable areas lest they come into harm; therefore the public has a fair opportunity to avoid the possibility of being hurt. In the case of spree shootouts this simply is not the case; the public is denied an opportunity to avoid potential mutilation or an untimely demise. This is especially so given that the public is justified in expecting that they may patronize shopping centers, gastronomic festivals, concerts, and so forth without fear of being gunned down. Such expectations are basic ones for any functioning society.

    To briefly summarize, I don’t think most mass shootings are as random as you suggest. Even if they were, I don’t really think that’s makes them any more terrible than what goes on in the inner cities every single day.
     
    Because the odds of such a terrible event occurring are comparatively rare does not justify their existence. Whether it be urban crime or mass murders, these events simply should not exist at all.

    This is essentially the same argument the left uses to diminish concerns against Islamic terrorism in the West.
  48. @mongo
    if they do a door to door gun grab...dont answer the door..they cant come in without a warrant

    I am not up on US constitutional law. But if what donkey face Kamala seeks; to do door to door sweeps using data bases of gun owners to begin with, and a law is struck to confiscate weapons I think they will be plowing right through your Fourth Amendment Rights and front door.. . Your 4th Amendment Rights will mean jack shit. It is not going to come to that. If everyone refused to turn over their weapons what are they going to do.?? Legal and fully registered gun ownership is barely 2 million in the US. So are they going to start the gun confiscation by jailing a possible 2 million people who refuse to turn over their guns?? I don’t think so. They would have a problem with the other gun owners coming to their defence. They would have hundreds of thousands Randy Weaver/ Ruby Ridge situations.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    There are several HUNDRED million firearms legally owned by US Citizens in the USA, not two million.

    No way are there only two million firearms legally owned and registered even if we stick just to states where you must register a firearm with the government merely to own it.

    As for what the us gov will do if people refuse to turn over their firearms: deploy the National Guard or the active military itself to surround resistors’ homes, murder them or arrest them and prosecute them and send them to prison for years on felony charges — to be raped and, whenever the authorities want, murdered in prison. Still I do hope that people refuse to be disarmed, because whatever is left of our rights and dignity will be gone once we are disarmed.

    Anybody who wants you to be physically defenseless, does not have good things planned for you.
  49. @JackOH
    Paul Kersey does good work, but I think a lot of folks regard a "mass shooting" as unprovoked, with no conflict leading up to the shooting, and random in its selection of victims. Shootings with multiple victims after barroom brawls, drug deals gone bad, and gangbanger turf shootings aren't what they have in mind.

    “Shootings with multiple victims after barroom brawls, drug deals gone bad, and gangbanger turf shootings aren’t what they have in mind”.

    Well of course not because that wouldn’t fit their narrative of “only whites” committing mass shootings. Only whites are a threat to national security and he democrats pets of all colors and creeds.
    Explicitly and catagorically micro managing the white population to disarm us is exactly what they are doing!!!

  50. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    At the risk of making myself very unpopular hereabouts, led me add that Mr. Kersey’s article, if not quite incorrect, at least needs an asterisk appended to it.

    There are no disputing the statistics cited: They are accurate. What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”. In other words, their definitions are being stretched in order to flatter their respective pet political concerns.

    True, one need only look to Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or any other Black-majority city in the US to see the alarming rate of gun violence, often involving multiple victims. However, there is a big caveat to be made here. Consider this shooting, which just occurred yesterday in Brooklyn:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/08/05/shooting-at-crown-heights-vigil-injures-four/


    An early-morning vigil in Crown Heights was violently interrupted Monday when a shooter opened fire, injuring four people, police said[...]

    Two men and two women were shot, though all were in stable condition as of Monday morning, according to a police spokesperson[...]

    Police, who said the shooting was “targeted” and “gang-related,” taped off the street and were collecting evidence later Monday morning[...]
     

    Most of the aforementioned crimes cited by Messrs. Kersey and Flaherty were of a similar nature: Borne from personal or inter/intra factional (i.e. gang) disputes which featured perpetrators who kept specific targets in mind. Innocent bystanders often become involved, but usually are not themselves the focus of the perpetrator.

    The recent shooting sprees are rather different. None of the people shot at, say, the Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas were specifically chosen by Stephen Paddock to die, much less did he know any of them individually. To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets. As such he shot as many as he possibly could in the time allotted to him simply because that was the point.

    So what is a “mass shooting”? If we understand its meaning as per Mr. Kersey’s interpretation of it—as any shooting with multiple victims—then his thesis would be correct. However, the current popular definition of a “mass shooting” appears to be rather more limited: A violent event, usually involving a lone perpetrator, occurring unexpectedly within crowded public spaces, with no specific targets, and often with, at best, only a vague explanation as to why it occurred at all. Defined in that way, then it becomes immediately clear that the urban violence cited in the article, atrocious though it is, cannot be considered in the same light with the shootings by Stephen Paddock, Santino Legan, Patrick Crusius, et al. Which is not to say that Blacks or Hispanics are not capable of such crimes (e.g. Nikolas Cruz), but it must be admitted that when defined as per the above, Whites would seem to hold a statically significant lead.

    Stereotypes, one often hears from those whose beliefs would be categorized in the dissident right, are often proven true; and minority groups complaining about them are often harangued with the sort of glib slogans especially beloved by Americans—brief, catchy, but usually meaningless—such as “facts don’t care about your feelings” or whatever. They would be right to point to the general veracity of those stereotypes, at any rate. Blacks and Hispanics (among many other minority groups) ought not to ignore the very real faults that exist within their communities and in their characters. Instead of pretending they do not exist, it would be for the collective good—theirs as well as their neighbors—to face up to their shortcomings and strive to do better. We cannot pretend as if Baltimore or Washington, DC have not suffered and would not benefit from collective introspection and will to improve.

    But as we all know, everybody has a little ox they do not want gored; and when unflattering stereotypes are turned onto Whites, one never fails to encounter an “alt-right” opinion piece that oleaginously denies them, absolving their kinfolk of any need for collective responsibility.

    Why Whites are more prone to these kill sprees in public spaces I have no idea, though do have a number of theories. Perhaps Whites are still grappling with the fallout of the close of the frontier. Maybe it has to do with the left’s attacks on “toxic masculinity”; or on the anonymity of urban (and increasingly even rural) life in the US, the dwindling opportunities to be known. Probably we have reached a point in history where the expression of American individualism can only be successful when taken to extremes; whether it is by taking selfies from dangerous locales, engaging in life-threatening activities, “coming out” as the latest sexual minority du jour, or shooting as many random people in public. For those who cannot achieve fame by honorable means, infamy may be suitable enough. Or it could also be all of the above—or none. This will be a matter for future historians and sociologists to ponder.

    Whatever the roots of this phenomenon, it will not matter whether guns are banned or not, whether “mental health” becomes a priority or not. None of those things are likely to occur anyway; no political will on either side of the US political spectrum. One thing I am fairly certain of: These shootings will get worse before they get better.

    You make good points here, but instead of making your points at an obscure blog, perhaps you should direct them at the CBS This Morning TV show. Tuesday morning host Anthony Mason reported that according to some outfit called the Gun Violence Archive the U.S. has endured more than 250 ‘mass shootings’ so far in 2019. Now, obviously, they’re including gangland style shootings and not just the kind of incidents that occurred in El Paso and Dayton. Not surprisingly, Mason didn’t bother to admit that around 80% of these incidents were perpetrated by black people. He was happy for his audience to assume that most of them were the work of monstrous white people. In fact, immediately after quoting these figures he segued into an interview with the acting Homeland Security Secretary where his first question was about the supposed scourge of ‘white supremacy’. Frustratingly, he got no pushback from Secretary McAleenan (the same guy who wilted in front of Elijah Cummings).

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
    Gun violence archive often has links to local news media documenting the mass shootings. If the link does not take you directly to a news article with a description of the perp, you are only a couple of searches away to find out that the perps almost always are black.

    Since the shooting in Dayton there have been 6 mass shootings committed by blacks. And yet these have not made the news media. One wonders why?

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
    , @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    You make good points here, but instead of making your points at an obscure blog, perhaps you should direct them at the CBS This Morning TV show.
     
    Let me talk to my agent and see if we can get yours truly some face time on the tee-vee.

    Tuesday morning host Anthony Mason reported that according to some outfit called the Gun Violence Archive the U.S. has endured more than 250 ‘mass shootings’ so far in 2019. Now, obviously, they’re including gangland style shootings and not just the kind of incidents that occurred in El Paso and Dayton. Not surprisingly, Mason didn’t bother to admit that around 80% of these incidents were perpetrated by black people. He was happy for his audience to assume that most of them were the work of monstrous white people. In fact, immediately after quoting these figures he segued into an interview with the acting Homeland Security Secretary where his first question was about the supposed scourge of ‘white supremacy’. Frustratingly, he got no pushback from Secretary McAleenan (the same guy who wilted in front of Elijah Cummings).
     
    Are we surprised that this occurs? These events—gang drive-bys, mass shootings, terrorist attacks, etc.—hardly matter in and of themselves anymore. For the media (as well as for most of their audience), they are only worth whatever political capital can be wrung from them for their pet cause.

    A source of great regret for current historians is the lack of first-hand recounting of the Western Roman Empire’s final years; basically we have nothing between Ammianus Marcellinus and Procopius, a crucial period of about 150 years. No such worries this time around. The collapse of the US will be among the best-documented in human history—and it will be televised.

  51. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    At the risk of making myself very unpopular hereabouts, led me add that Mr. Kersey’s article, if not quite incorrect, at least needs an asterisk appended to it.

    There are no disputing the statistics cited: They are accurate. What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”. In other words, their definitions are being stretched in order to flatter their respective pet political concerns.

    True, one need only look to Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or any other Black-majority city in the US to see the alarming rate of gun violence, often involving multiple victims. However, there is a big caveat to be made here. Consider this shooting, which just occurred yesterday in Brooklyn:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/08/05/shooting-at-crown-heights-vigil-injures-four/


    An early-morning vigil in Crown Heights was violently interrupted Monday when a shooter opened fire, injuring four people, police said[...]

    Two men and two women were shot, though all were in stable condition as of Monday morning, according to a police spokesperson[...]

    Police, who said the shooting was “targeted” and “gang-related,” taped off the street and were collecting evidence later Monday morning[...]
     

    Most of the aforementioned crimes cited by Messrs. Kersey and Flaherty were of a similar nature: Borne from personal or inter/intra factional (i.e. gang) disputes which featured perpetrators who kept specific targets in mind. Innocent bystanders often become involved, but usually are not themselves the focus of the perpetrator.

    The recent shooting sprees are rather different. None of the people shot at, say, the Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas were specifically chosen by Stephen Paddock to die, much less did he know any of them individually. To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets. As such he shot as many as he possibly could in the time allotted to him simply because that was the point.

    So what is a “mass shooting”? If we understand its meaning as per Mr. Kersey’s interpretation of it—as any shooting with multiple victims—then his thesis would be correct. However, the current popular definition of a “mass shooting” appears to be rather more limited: A violent event, usually involving a lone perpetrator, occurring unexpectedly within crowded public spaces, with no specific targets, and often with, at best, only a vague explanation as to why it occurred at all. Defined in that way, then it becomes immediately clear that the urban violence cited in the article, atrocious though it is, cannot be considered in the same light with the shootings by Stephen Paddock, Santino Legan, Patrick Crusius, et al. Which is not to say that Blacks or Hispanics are not capable of such crimes (e.g. Nikolas Cruz), but it must be admitted that when defined as per the above, Whites would seem to hold a statically significant lead.

    Stereotypes, one often hears from those whose beliefs would be categorized in the dissident right, are often proven true; and minority groups complaining about them are often harangued with the sort of glib slogans especially beloved by Americans—brief, catchy, but usually meaningless—such as “facts don’t care about your feelings” or whatever. They would be right to point to the general veracity of those stereotypes, at any rate. Blacks and Hispanics (among many other minority groups) ought not to ignore the very real faults that exist within their communities and in their characters. Instead of pretending they do not exist, it would be for the collective good—theirs as well as their neighbors—to face up to their shortcomings and strive to do better. We cannot pretend as if Baltimore or Washington, DC have not suffered and would not benefit from collective introspection and will to improve.

    But as we all know, everybody has a little ox they do not want gored; and when unflattering stereotypes are turned onto Whites, one never fails to encounter an “alt-right” opinion piece that oleaginously denies them, absolving their kinfolk of any need for collective responsibility.

    Why Whites are more prone to these kill sprees in public spaces I have no idea, though do have a number of theories. Perhaps Whites are still grappling with the fallout of the close of the frontier. Maybe it has to do with the left’s attacks on “toxic masculinity”; or on the anonymity of urban (and increasingly even rural) life in the US, the dwindling opportunities to be known. Probably we have reached a point in history where the expression of American individualism can only be successful when taken to extremes; whether it is by taking selfies from dangerous locales, engaging in life-threatening activities, “coming out” as the latest sexual minority du jour, or shooting as many random people in public. For those who cannot achieve fame by honorable means, infamy may be suitable enough. Or it could also be all of the above—or none. This will be a matter for future historians and sociologists to ponder.

    Whatever the roots of this phenomenon, it will not matter whether guns are banned or not, whether “mental health” becomes a priority or not. None of those things are likely to occur anyway; no political will on either side of the US political spectrum. One thing I am fairly certain of: These shootings will get worse before they get better.

    Once again we find someone who believes that if you simply change the definition of a term that you change the behavior. I think crime is too high? Have police stop responding to shoplifting and other non-violent property crimes. See? Crime goes down. We’re doing a great job. Too many blacks involved in mass shootings? Change the definition of mass shootings. Now if the cause involved sneakers or the last chicken wing or your baby mamas first child crying too much then it’s no longer considered a mass shooting. The same number of people are dead the same or different weapons may be used but if we can somehow alter the numbers to deflect Attention from the very obvious facts then we can keep the numbers down and push our own agenda.

    Your nonsense has been tried year before. It’s been tried everywhere else with great success but you won’t find that success here. You’ve been called out and if the only thing you can do is change the definition then you failed and you’ve lost.

    • Replies: @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Your nonsense has been tried year before.
     
    What “nonsense” are you referring to? Because the comment you are replying to makes no suggestions to “try” anything.
  52. Just passing along a meme…isn’t it odd how the news instantly had the El Paso bozo’s unusually-free-of-grammatical-errors manifesto?

    One reason why it was quite likely a hoax!

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
  53. @chattanooga gal
    Just passing along a meme…isn’t it odd how the news instantly had the El Paso bozo’s unusually-free-of-grammatical-errors manifesto

    and remember, they never did print the manifesto from that black guy that shot up a college in Oregon many years ago

    Do you recall the name of the shooter in this instance? This is the first I am reading about it.

  54. @Paul
    What is the definition of "mass shooting"? The shootings in which a dozen or dozens are killed mostly seem to involve white shooters.

    Exactly the right question. The term “mass killing” or “mass shooting” has been used by police authorities to describe single incidents in which four or more random individuals were killed, not counting the shooter. These are rare; there have been maybe 120 of these in the last fifty years. About half were done by whites, a quarter by blacks, etc.

    We are told that there are 250+ “mass shootings” this year, but this is a much looser use of the term by news outlets, not law enforcement. It just means that four or more people got shot, not killed, at some incident. As you can see on the graphic contributed by on this page, the shooters are almost entirely black guys, and most of them live in Democrat-run Paradise cities like Baltimore, Chicago and Detroit.

  55. @JackOH
    Paul Kersey does good work, but I think a lot of folks regard a "mass shooting" as unprovoked, with no conflict leading up to the shooting, and random in its selection of victims. Shootings with multiple victims after barroom brawls, drug deals gone bad, and gangbanger turf shootings aren't what they have in mind.

    So when Dindus shoot 22 people at an Arts Festival in New Jersey that isn’t actually a mass shooting?

    What you are trying to do is define a mass shooting so that only white people commit them.

  56. @JackOH
    Paul Kersey does good work, but I think a lot of folks regard a "mass shooting" as unprovoked, with no conflict leading up to the shooting, and random in its selection of victims. Shootings with multiple victims after barroom brawls, drug deals gone bad, and gangbanger turf shootings aren't what they have in mind.

    I think a lot of folks

    Well, you’ve certainly researched this topic to death so I guess we’re all wrong on our side.

    I’ll take PK’s statistics over your personalized, nonsensical agenda anyway.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    Jim, you probably overlooked my commenting history on these pages favoring 2nd Amendment rights, or that my Mom successfully defended herself against a career criminal with a .22 cal. revolver purchased mail order pre-1968 GCA, that I'm an occasional attendee at my local gun and knife shows, that I commented supportively for about a year on a pro-2nd Amendment Web site that enjoyed the participation of legal people and activists, and that I publicly supported concealed carry in my state through letters and appearance in a public demonstration.

    You may want to look at Haddock and Polsby's "Understanding Riots", available online, which calls for a reformalization of the militia to squelch riots, but which could also be used to mitigate unlawful gun violence that falls short of riot.
  57. @mongo
    if they do a door to door gun grab...dont answer the door..they cant come in without a warrant

    Considering they can’t bypass the constitution or the Second Amendment and have no power to curtail gun rights and a federal level at least, this is all a moot point.

    The state gets around it by adding “provisions“ to the second amendment . I don’t know if that’s ever been challenged but then again we don’t get to make the rules. Constitutional conventions are difficult though. These minor end runs are easier and the weight adds up equally over time.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    What country are we living in where the gov can’t ignore and violate the second amendment? It’s not the USA. Power flows from the barrel of a gun, said a famous communist totalitarian, and he was right on that score.

    They can do whatever they can get away with, and demographics is shifting politics permanently in favor of the people who want to take away our means of defending ourselves.

    The “justices” of the Supreme Court will reverse Heller v. DC and other relatively pro-gun / pro-self-defense precedents as soon as the Dems gets the White House and senate back and replace a couple members of the “high court.” That could occur in the presidential term beginning January 2029, at the very latest, and probably sooner.

  58. MONTEVIDEO, Aug 5 (Reuters) – Uruguay on Monday issued a warning to its citizens traveling to the United States after two mass shootings over the weekend that killed 31 people in Texas and Ohio.

    In a press release, the Foreign Ministry advised avoiding cities such as Detroit, Baltimore and Albuquerque, which it said are among the 20 most dangerous in the world, citing an index by CEOWORLD magazine.

    Travelers are urged to take precautions “in the face of growing indiscriminate violence, mostly for hate crimes, including racism and discrimination, which cost the lives of more than 250 people in the first seven months of this year,” it said in the release also posted on President Tabare Vazquez’s website

    http://news.trust.org/item/20190805222033-2xswk

    Does Uruguay get its State Dept. information from CNN?!

    How can the ‘indiscriminate violence” in places like Detroit involve ‘racism’, when it’s virtually all black on black savagery?

    But then, if you’ve grown up with Western (((media))), then when a Negro thug in Detroit or Baltimore shoots another Negro thug, yep.. that’s right. It’s all a direct consequence of ‘white racism’.

    Hutu hacks Tutsi? It’s Joe Sixpack’s fault in Nebraska.

    Crips shoots Bloods? Blame Joe.

    • Replies: @Republic
    A few days before that announcement, the US State Dept issued a new travel warning for Uruguay, due to increases in crime in that country.

    https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/uruguay-travel-advisory.html
    , @Commentator Mike
    The disproportionately higher black on white crime as compared to white on black crime could be a result of racism and hate - I mean black racism and hate towards whites. But since the media highlights white serial and mass murderers then of course people will get a different picture than the statistics show.

    There could however be something of an inverted white racism in the way liberal media gives more prominence to white crime and seems to condemn it more than black crime. It could be that they hold whites to higher standards than blacks and don't expect such behaviour from them, but expect blacks to behave like animals. A sort of unspoken white racism in the way they treat and report crime in the MSM. Because let's face it they can't really all believe their propaganda shit; even the more sensible blacks in the media surely know the reality, despite what they tell the public when live on the air.

    Since I assume that most whites, instinctively or unconsciously, even most of the liberal whites who appear, or pretend to be, anti-racist in their public pronouncements, generally avoid black areas or having to deal with the more violent black types, then the high rates of black on white crime would suggest that blacks go out of their way to find white victims to beat, rob, rape and kill. Most of the black on white crime wouldn't then be coincidental but deliberate. Surely even any honest black would advise you not to go into certain high crime areas, which would tend to be black.

  59. @UsedtobefromFlorida
    Mass shootings get headlines but far more Americans die annually by other means. 400,000 people die annually from heart disease and bad diets, 70,000 deaths annually from drug overdoses, 36,750 estimated traffic fatalities for 2018, less than 400 dead this year from mass shootings and media focuses on the 400. Focusing on the 400 promotes an agenda, the others don't.

    “far more Americans die annually by other means”

    Let’s not forget 250,000 die annually from medical negligence. (2016 Hopkins study). That’s two jumbo jets every day. Everyone knows what to do about this. Almost every voter would vote for the fix, and yet it is not proposed or written about.

  60. @Rouetheday
    You make good points here, but instead of making your points at an obscure blog, perhaps you should direct them at the CBS This Morning TV show. Tuesday morning host Anthony Mason reported that according to some outfit called the Gun Violence Archive the U.S. has endured more than 250 'mass shootings' so far in 2019. Now, obviously, they're including gangland style shootings and not just the kind of incidents that occurred in El Paso and Dayton. Not surprisingly, Mason didn't bother to admit that around 80% of these incidents were perpetrated by black people. He was happy for his audience to assume that most of them were the work of monstrous white people. In fact, immediately after quoting these figures he segued into an interview with the acting Homeland Security Secretary where his first question was about the supposed scourge of 'white supremacy'. Frustratingly, he got no pushback from Secretary McAleenan (the same guy who wilted in front of Elijah Cummings).

    Gun violence archive often has links to local news media documenting the mass shootings. If the link does not take you directly to a news article with a description of the perp, you are only a couple of searches away to find out that the perps almost always are black.

    Since the shooting in Dayton there have been 6 mass shootings committed by blacks. And yet these have not made the news media. One wonders why?

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

    • Replies: @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Since the shooting in Dayton there have been 6 mass shootings committed by blacks. And yet these have not made the news media. One wonders why?
     
    This observation cuts both ways. Because many on the left have made this observation, too; albeit as an attack against a media which they believe gives little consideration to Black or racial/ethnic minority victims of violence. In other words, they regard the media’s reportage as a tacit admission that spree shootings are somehow aberrant, but that drive-bys and the like in urban areas are considered perfectly normal. Recall how many times one has heard talking heads or survivors talk about how these shootings “aren’t supposed to happen here” (i.e. fairly prosperous White suburb). The implication, these leftist critics contend, is that they ought to happen in Black or Hispanic enclaves deep in the city.

    Anyway, this just goes to show you that sometimes the Lügenpreße is damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

  61. @Johnny Walker Read
    “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.”

    ― Mark Twain

    Especially when the story creators
    are willful liars intent on harm.

    5ds

  62. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    https://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mass-shooters-2019.jpg

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/typical-mass-shooter-a-white-male-think-again/

    We need common sense negro control.

  63. @Jim in Jersey
    I think a lot of folks

    Well, you’ve certainly researched this topic to death so I guess we’re all wrong on our side.

    I’ll take PK’s statistics over your personalized, nonsensical agenda anyway.

    Jim, you probably overlooked my commenting history on these pages favoring 2nd Amendment rights, or that my Mom successfully defended herself against a career criminal with a .22 cal. revolver purchased mail order pre-1968 GCA, that I’m an occasional attendee at my local gun and knife shows, that I commented supportively for about a year on a pro-2nd Amendment Web site that enjoyed the participation of legal people and activists, and that I publicly supported concealed carry in my state through letters and appearance in a public demonstration.

    You may want to look at Haddock and Polsby’s “Understanding Riots”, available online, which calls for a reformalization of the militia to squelch riots, but which could also be used to mitigate unlawful gun violence that falls short of riot.

  64. I made a comment earlier today on this thread disagreeing with the author…and guess what–it was deleted!

    So much for open debate on Unz.com! If you are not in agreement with the author of the article they delete your comment instead of allowing it to stand.

    Fuck you very much, Unz.com!

    • Replies: @bruce county
    I think the right decision was made considering your previous comments elsewhere.
    No go march in one of your freaks parades.
  65. @Wally
    https://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mass-shooters-2019.jpg

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/typical-mass-shooter-a-white-male-think-again/

    17 shootings in Toronto over our holiday long weekend.
    Of course the press will never name or describe suspects or their race.
    You can guess but you know that will make you a racist….lol.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5728530/civic-holiday-weekend-toronto-shootings/

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    It coincides with Caribana too lol I hate that festival
    , @eah
  66. ‘Red-Flag’ acts, (for one cannot call them ‘laws’), grossly violate Amendments: 1, 2, 5, 7, & 14.

    ‘Red-Flag’ acts are prior restraints upon free-speech and the inherent right of self-defense.

    ‘Prior-Restraints’ are themselves, inherently unconstitutional.

  67. It’s because blacks tend to 1) shoot other blacks, mostly people they know and 2) for no apparent motive other than to rob or hot-headedness.

    Whites tend to shoot complete strangers and usually have a motive.

    Regardless, it’s still ridiculous that liberals will only focus on gun control rather than discussing the motives, and their role in those motives. The Dayton shooter was flamed by leftist hate perpetuated by the media, while the shooter in El Paso was enraged by the left’s push for open borders. Both are caused by leftist lunacy. But (((the left))) is known for their dishonesty and inability to accept any self-critique, hence the continued blame on gun support and push for gun control.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
    Good points, especially "their role."
  68. @Rurik

    MONTEVIDEO, Aug 5 (Reuters) - Uruguay on Monday issued a warning to its citizens traveling to the United States after two mass shootings over the weekend that killed 31 people in Texas and Ohio.

    In a press release, the Foreign Ministry advised avoiding cities such as Detroit, Baltimore and Albuquerque, which it said are among the 20 most dangerous in the world, citing an index by CEOWORLD magazine.

    Travelers are urged to take precautions "in the face of growing indiscriminate violence, mostly for hate crimes, including racism and discrimination, which cost the lives of more than 250 people in the first seven months of this year," it said in the release also posted on President Tabare Vazquez's website
     
    http://news.trust.org/item/20190805222033-2xswk

    Does Uruguay get its State Dept. information from CNN?!

    How can the 'indiscriminate violence" in places like Detroit involve 'racism', when it's virtually all black on black savagery?

    But then, if you've grown up with Western (((media))), then when a Negro thug in Detroit or Baltimore shoots another Negro thug, yep.. that's right. It's all a direct consequence of 'white racism'.

    Hutu hacks Tutsi? It's Joe Sixpack's fault in Nebraska.

    Crips shoots Bloods? Blame Joe.

    A few days before that announcement, the US State Dept issued a new travel warning for Uruguay, due to increases in crime in that country.

    https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/uruguay-travel-advisory.html

  69. @Deschutes
    I made a comment earlier today on this thread disagreeing with the author...and guess what–it was deleted!

    So much for open debate on Unz.com! If you are not in agreement with the author of the article they delete your comment instead of allowing it to stand.

    Fuck you very much, Unz.com!

    I think the right decision was made considering your previous comments elsewhere.
    No go march in one of your freaks parades.

  70. @Jim in Jersey
    Once again we find someone who believes that if you simply change the definition of a term that you change the behavior. I think crime is too high? Have police stop responding to shoplifting and other non-violent property crimes. See? Crime goes down. We’re doing a great job. Too many blacks involved in mass shootings? Change the definition of mass shootings. Now if the cause involved sneakers or the last chicken wing or your baby mamas first child crying too much then it’s no longer considered a mass shooting. The same number of people are dead the same or different weapons may be used but if we can somehow alter the numbers to deflect Attention from the very obvious facts then we can keep the numbers down and push our own agenda.

    Your nonsense has been tried year before. It’s been tried everywhere else with great success but you won’t find that success here. You’ve been called out and if the only thing you can do is change the definition then you failed and you’ve lost.

    Your nonsense has been tried year before.

    What “nonsense” are you referring to? Because the comment you are replying to makes no suggestions to “try” anything.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Your ‘trying’ to get people to agree that if we only look at where you’re pointing that the problem is as you define it.

    That ‘try’.
  71. Despite what the Jmedia claims, white gun owners/ NRA members, are the single most law abiding group in the USA.

    Black violence is a 1000 times worse than white violence, but that doesn’t fit the jew narrative.

    If they pass “red flag” laws that allow (((medical experts) to confiscate guns, white men are screwed.

  72. @L0T
    I'm going to need some sources on that, even if it's just a big bunch of links to news stories/police reports.

    Most of my comments here get deleted and I have no clue why as i’m not near as insane as say TinyDuck is, i came back and my posts are almost never here……… but this link may help you find what you’re seeking.

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours

  73. @Rouetheday
    You make good points here, but instead of making your points at an obscure blog, perhaps you should direct them at the CBS This Morning TV show. Tuesday morning host Anthony Mason reported that according to some outfit called the Gun Violence Archive the U.S. has endured more than 250 'mass shootings' so far in 2019. Now, obviously, they're including gangland style shootings and not just the kind of incidents that occurred in El Paso and Dayton. Not surprisingly, Mason didn't bother to admit that around 80% of these incidents were perpetrated by black people. He was happy for his audience to assume that most of them were the work of monstrous white people. In fact, immediately after quoting these figures he segued into an interview with the acting Homeland Security Secretary where his first question was about the supposed scourge of 'white supremacy'. Frustratingly, he got no pushback from Secretary McAleenan (the same guy who wilted in front of Elijah Cummings).

    You make good points here, but instead of making your points at an obscure blog, perhaps you should direct them at the CBS This Morning TV show.

    Let me talk to my agent and see if we can get yours truly some face time on the tee-vee.

    Tuesday morning host Anthony Mason reported that according to some outfit called the Gun Violence Archive the U.S. has endured more than 250 ‘mass shootings’ so far in 2019. Now, obviously, they’re including gangland style shootings and not just the kind of incidents that occurred in El Paso and Dayton. Not surprisingly, Mason didn’t bother to admit that around 80% of these incidents were perpetrated by black people. He was happy for his audience to assume that most of them were the work of monstrous white people. In fact, immediately after quoting these figures he segued into an interview with the acting Homeland Security Secretary where his first question was about the supposed scourge of ‘white supremacy’. Frustratingly, he got no pushback from Secretary McAleenan (the same guy who wilted in front of Elijah Cummings).

    Are we surprised that this occurs? These events—gang drive-bys, mass shootings, terrorist attacks, etc.—hardly matter in and of themselves anymore. For the media (as well as for most of their audience), they are only worth whatever political capital can be wrung from them for their pet cause.

    A source of great regret for current historians is the lack of first-hand recounting of the Western Roman Empire’s final years; basically we have nothing between Ammianus Marcellinus and Procopius, a crucial period of about 150 years. No such worries this time around. The collapse of the US will be among the best-documented in human history—and it will be televised.

  74. @MikeatMikedotMike
    First, let me say that your comment is thoughtful and evenhanded. So the tone of this reply is not meant to come across as snippy or provoking. There is clearly a difference between the motives of most mass shootings (for sake of argument, I mean a shooting by one individual with multiple victims) between blacks and whites. Being aware of that difference is important. Where I disagree, is with the suggestion that white mass shootings are all random and without purpose.* I think the PTP definitely want the public perception to be that these shootings are just random. If there is no cause, no human factor, then it's that much easier to make the case that banning guns is the proper solution.

    In an effort to keep the reply short, I am going to start with the more well known school shootings: Columbine, Sandy Hook, Stoneman, and SFHS. If the official stories are to be believed (I am very skeptical of the events surrounding Sandy Hook) every shooting involved a shooter that was reported to be bullied, mentally ill, a loner, on medication, or some combination of the former. I believe all were current or former students of the targeted school. That itself makes those shootings not random at all. In fact its very possible in each of those cases the shooters were motivated at least in part by revenge.

    To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets.
     
    The above statement is a bit contradictory as you first concede we don't know what motivated the shooter and then in your next sentence you speak directly to what was in the shooter's mind. The unfortunate fact is we will never actually know one way or the other, because the shooter is dead. The LV shooting is an extremely murky incident comprising of a even vaguer individual. I don't think it can be stated with confidence either way whether their were motives behind the shooter's targets.

    The El Paso and NZ shooters both left behind supposed manifestos outlying their grievances. The NZ shooter's target was clearly not random and the El Paso shooter's motives are yet to be fully understood. As he is alive, we may get a better idea as to what they were.

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was not random.

    To briefly summarize, I don't think most mass shootings are as random as you suggest. Even if they were, I don't really think that's makes them any more terrible than what goes on in the inner cities every single day. In fact what blacks are doing to each other on a daily basis is in many ways preventable, but our current political climate has essentially outlawed dealing with that problem in any pragmatic way.

    *For sake of argument, I'm going to address the issue as if the general narrative behind each shooting is correct. I have no interest in getting off course with the false flag stuff, at least not here.

    Where I disagree, is with the suggestion that white mass shootings are all random and without purpose.* I think the PTP definitely want the public perception to be that these shootings are just random. If there is no cause, no human factor, then it’s that much easier to make the case that banning guns is the proper solution.

    (*For sake of argument, I’m going to address the issue as if the general narrative behind each shooting is correct. I have no interest in getting off course with the false flag stuff, at least not here.)

    I agree with you on this point. If I may put it another way, all these events had a motivation. The difference is that gang warfare, however repugnant we may find it, at least seems somewhat logical to the wider public: “A” slights “B”, therefore “B” demands satisfaction from “A”, even if it is merely revenge.

    In the case of the shooting sprees targeting innocents, there is no such consolation. Often, the motivation may, perhaps, be rooted in reasonable concerns, but the actions which result from them may seem anything but reasonable. Other times whatever evidence, if any, there remains of motive will be too cryptic to fulfill the public’s desire for an explanation. And, again, the fact that innocents are specifically targeted is a major difference.

    The above statement is a bit contradictory as you first concede we don’t know what motivated the shooter and then in your next sentence you speak directly to what was in the shooter’s mind.

    True. I do not purport to know what was in his mind. At the same time, considering the manner in which he planned and executed his crime, to say nothing of the death toll he exacted, I believe we can safely presume that he did not have any specific people targeted, nor did he even know any of his victims prior.

    The El Paso and NZ shooters both left behind supposed manifestos outlying their grievances. The NZ shooter’s target was clearly not random and the El Paso shooter’s motives are yet to be fully understood. As he is alive, we may get a better idea as to what they were.

    The Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was not random.

    These were not “random” locations in the sense that the perpetrator deliberately chose them, sometimes with careful consideration for distance, escape routes, maximum amount of casualties, etc.

    To the victims, however, these locations would indeed seem to be “random” as it would be impossible for them to guess the rationale, often specious, that the perpetrator employed to justify their act and its place of execution. For example, most people know well enough to avoid disreputable areas lest they come into harm; therefore the public has a fair opportunity to avoid the possibility of being hurt. In the case of spree shootouts this simply is not the case; the public is denied an opportunity to avoid potential mutilation or an untimely demise. This is especially so given that the public is justified in expecting that they may patronize shopping centers, gastronomic festivals, concerts, and so forth without fear of being gunned down. Such expectations are basic ones for any functioning society.

    To briefly summarize, I don’t think most mass shootings are as random as you suggest. Even if they were, I don’t really think that’s makes them any more terrible than what goes on in the inner cities every single day.

    Because the odds of such a terrible event occurring are comparatively rare does not justify their existence. Whether it be urban crime or mass murders, these events simply should not exist at all.

    This is essentially the same argument the left uses to diminish concerns against Islamic terrorism in the West.

  75. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Your nonsense has been tried year before.
     
    What “nonsense” are you referring to? Because the comment you are replying to makes no suggestions to “try” anything.

    Your ‘trying’ to get people to agree that if we only look at where you’re pointing that the problem is as you define it.

    That ‘try’.

    • Replies: @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    In that case, it is no different than the author’s “try” at having his reader regard gang drive-bys and mass shootings in unexpected public spaces à la Columbine as being the same thing. Of course they can only be qualified as being the same in the most general sense (i.e. both kinds of events hold the potential for mass casualties). Although even then, it must be admitted that Whites have a significant per capita advantage over Blacks and Hispanics. To my knowledge, no Crip or MS-13 member has yet to approach the raw numbers of a Stephen Paddock, Adam Lanza, or James Huberty, much less against random strangers unconnected to the perpetrator.

    At the very least one must concede that Whites are also major contributors to statistics of violent deaths in the US. Rather than deny this, it would be better to examine why this may be the case in order to prevent future tragedies. Significant inroads have been made in reducing Black and Hispanic gun violence rates from their all-time highs in the 1970s – 1990s; various studies and charity organizations have helped to alleviate this problem. Certainly it has not vanished, but one need no longer worry about being randomly held up and shot in Compton during broad daylight anymore. (In fact, many of these former crime-plagued areas are now among the most active housing markets in their respective regions.) I cannot see why a similar approach could not work in stemming the rates of these shooting sprees.

  76. @bruce county
    17 shootings in Toronto over our holiday long weekend.
    Of course the press will never name or describe suspects or their race.
    You can guess but you know that will make you a racist....lol.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5728530/civic-holiday-weekend-toronto-shootings/

    It coincides with Caribana too lol I hate that festival

  77. @bruce county
    17 shootings in Toronto over our holiday long weekend.
    Of course the press will never name or describe suspects or their race.
    You can guess but you know that will make you a racist....lol.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5728530/civic-holiday-weekend-toronto-shootings/

    • Replies: @bruce county
    Oh Ya!! Beauties aren't they.!!! Trudeaus pets and North Americas most protected class of citizens. Right up there with BLM, NAACP, LGBTQWERTY, SPLC, ACLU, ADL , CAIR... these groups alone threaten white civilization in North America. Change has to come and not soon enough if we are to survive and save our proud white race and the technological civilization we built on this continent.
  78. Your title says something about 36 “mass shootings” but you list 34 events, of which three have precisely one victim, and a few more seem to mash together disparate incidents (“some people were shot overnight in a huge city”).

    In 90% of incidents, you give no hint of shooter or suspect.

    SO SAD!

    • Agree: AnalogMan
  79. Maybe it is an economic problem which now includes a lot of whites! We have had 4+ decades of neoliberalism! We also have an Opioid epidemic which is now suddenly in the news because it has become a white problem.

    Giving a lecture with statistics is fine identifying the real problem is another!
    The solutions are in asking the right questions!

    At bottom, Neoliberals have created a social hierarchy of “haves” and “have nots”. They have taken this corrosive social vision and dressed it up with a “respectable” sounding ideology which all boils down to the cheap labor and desperate people they depend on to make their fortunes.

    They have been very successful at encouraging racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among people at the bottom distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests to improve their lives.

    That is why in an election cycle 47% of the society never bother to vote because they have stopped believing their lives will ever change with no opportunity to ever step up !

  80. @Jim in Jersey
    Your ‘trying’ to get people to agree that if we only look at where you’re pointing that the problem is as you define it.

    That ‘try’.

    In that case, it is no different than the author’s “try” at having his reader regard gang drive-bys and mass shootings in unexpected public spaces à la Columbine as being the same thing. Of course they can only be qualified as being the same in the most general sense (i.e. both kinds of events hold the potential for mass casualties). Although even then, it must be admitted that Whites have a significant per capita advantage over Blacks and Hispanics. To my knowledge, no Crip or MS-13 member has yet to approach the raw numbers of a Stephen Paddock, Adam Lanza, or James Huberty, much less against random strangers unconnected to the perpetrator.

    At the very least one must concede that Whites are also major contributors to statistics of violent deaths in the US. Rather than deny this, it would be better to examine why this may be the case in order to prevent future tragedies. Significant inroads have been made in reducing Black and Hispanic gun violence rates from their all-time highs in the 1970s – 1990s; various studies and charity organizations have helped to alleviate this problem. Certainly it has not vanished, but one need no longer worry about being randomly held up and shot in Compton during broad daylight anymore. (In fact, many of these former crime-plagued areas are now among the most active housing markets in their respective regions.) I cannot see why a similar approach could not work in stemming the rates of these shooting sprees.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Christ, you must like the sound of your own voice.

    No one here has ever denied that whites are not capable of vicious and dastardly things. We have a long list of embarrassments and the prisons were full of the dregs of white civilization.

    However, since the sixties blacks have grown to be far more prolific than whites in the area of criminality.

    They kill each other with such enthusiasm that it’s surprising there’s any left and yet you can sit there and split hairs pertaining to definitions.

    The victims are just as dead.
  81. In Juarez (short walk from El Paso)

    there have been 889 murders since January 1st.

  82. @Genrick Yagoda
    Gun violence archive often has links to local news media documenting the mass shootings. If the link does not take you directly to a news article with a description of the perp, you are only a couple of searches away to find out that the perps almost always are black.

    Since the shooting in Dayton there have been 6 mass shootings committed by blacks. And yet these have not made the news media. One wonders why?

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

    Since the shooting in Dayton there have been 6 mass shootings committed by blacks. And yet these have not made the news media. One wonders why?

    This observation cuts both ways. Because many on the left have made this observation, too; albeit as an attack against a media which they believe gives little consideration to Black or racial/ethnic minority victims of violence. In other words, they regard the media’s reportage as a tacit admission that spree shootings are somehow aberrant, but that drive-bys and the like in urban areas are considered perfectly normal. Recall how many times one has heard talking heads or survivors talk about how these shootings “aren’t supposed to happen here” (i.e. fairly prosperous White suburb). The implication, these leftist critics contend, is that they ought to happen in Black or Hispanic enclaves deep in the city.

    Anyway, this just goes to show you that sometimes the Lügenpreße is damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

  83. Places where an unarmed person can feel completely safe from being shot: 1. A gun store; 2. A cop bar; 3. A casino; 4. Out in the ocean; 5. In his tent in a homeless encampment.

  84. @eah

    Oh Ya!! Beauties aren’t they.!!! Trudeaus pets and North Americas most protected class of citizens. Right up there with BLM, NAACP, LGBTQWERTY, SPLC, ACLU, ADL , CAIR… these groups alone threaten white civilization in North America. Change has to come and not soon enough if we are to survive and save our proud white race and the technological civilization we built on this continent.

    • Agree: eah
  85. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    At the risk of making myself very unpopular hereabouts, led me add that Mr. Kersey’s article, if not quite incorrect, at least needs an asterisk appended to it.

    There are no disputing the statistics cited: They are accurate. What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”. In other words, their definitions are being stretched in order to flatter their respective pet political concerns.

    True, one need only look to Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or any other Black-majority city in the US to see the alarming rate of gun violence, often involving multiple victims. However, there is a big caveat to be made here. Consider this shooting, which just occurred yesterday in Brooklyn:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/08/05/shooting-at-crown-heights-vigil-injures-four/


    An early-morning vigil in Crown Heights was violently interrupted Monday when a shooter opened fire, injuring four people, police said[...]

    Two men and two women were shot, though all were in stable condition as of Monday morning, according to a police spokesperson[...]

    Police, who said the shooting was “targeted” and “gang-related,” taped off the street and were collecting evidence later Monday morning[...]
     

    Most of the aforementioned crimes cited by Messrs. Kersey and Flaherty were of a similar nature: Borne from personal or inter/intra factional (i.e. gang) disputes which featured perpetrators who kept specific targets in mind. Innocent bystanders often become involved, but usually are not themselves the focus of the perpetrator.

    The recent shooting sprees are rather different. None of the people shot at, say, the Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas were specifically chosen by Stephen Paddock to die, much less did he know any of them individually. To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets. As such he shot as many as he possibly could in the time allotted to him simply because that was the point.

    So what is a “mass shooting”? If we understand its meaning as per Mr. Kersey’s interpretation of it—as any shooting with multiple victims—then his thesis would be correct. However, the current popular definition of a “mass shooting” appears to be rather more limited: A violent event, usually involving a lone perpetrator, occurring unexpectedly within crowded public spaces, with no specific targets, and often with, at best, only a vague explanation as to why it occurred at all. Defined in that way, then it becomes immediately clear that the urban violence cited in the article, atrocious though it is, cannot be considered in the same light with the shootings by Stephen Paddock, Santino Legan, Patrick Crusius, et al. Which is not to say that Blacks or Hispanics are not capable of such crimes (e.g. Nikolas Cruz), but it must be admitted that when defined as per the above, Whites would seem to hold a statically significant lead.

    Stereotypes, one often hears from those whose beliefs would be categorized in the dissident right, are often proven true; and minority groups complaining about them are often harangued with the sort of glib slogans especially beloved by Americans—brief, catchy, but usually meaningless—such as “facts don’t care about your feelings” or whatever. They would be right to point to the general veracity of those stereotypes, at any rate. Blacks and Hispanics (among many other minority groups) ought not to ignore the very real faults that exist within their communities and in their characters. Instead of pretending they do not exist, it would be for the collective good—theirs as well as their neighbors—to face up to their shortcomings and strive to do better. We cannot pretend as if Baltimore or Washington, DC have not suffered and would not benefit from collective introspection and will to improve.

    But as we all know, everybody has a little ox they do not want gored; and when unflattering stereotypes are turned onto Whites, one never fails to encounter an “alt-right” opinion piece that oleaginously denies them, absolving their kinfolk of any need for collective responsibility.

    Why Whites are more prone to these kill sprees in public spaces I have no idea, though do have a number of theories. Perhaps Whites are still grappling with the fallout of the close of the frontier. Maybe it has to do with the left’s attacks on “toxic masculinity”; or on the anonymity of urban (and increasingly even rural) life in the US, the dwindling opportunities to be known. Probably we have reached a point in history where the expression of American individualism can only be successful when taken to extremes; whether it is by taking selfies from dangerous locales, engaging in life-threatening activities, “coming out” as the latest sexual minority du jour, or shooting as many random people in public. For those who cannot achieve fame by honorable means, infamy may be suitable enough. Or it could also be all of the above—or none. This will be a matter for future historians and sociologists to ponder.

    Whatever the roots of this phenomenon, it will not matter whether guns are banned or not, whether “mental health” becomes a priority or not. None of those things are likely to occur anyway; no political will on either side of the US political spectrum. One thing I am fairly certain of: These shootings will get worse before they get better.

    That’s an incredible leap of intellectual folly. The very thing you describe is not a thing….Whites are largely NOT inclined to criminality. Blacks overwhelmingly ARE!

    • Replies: @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    Why was my aforementioned comment an “incredible leap of intellectual folly”? Because it did not suit or flatter you? Last I checked, Whites were still human; therefore as prone to venality and crime as anyone else. No different from athletic and intellectual achievement, criminal tendencies tend to exhibit differences between races. Whether we want to or not, we all have natural aptitudes for certain activities—be they for good or otherwise.
  86. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    In that case, it is no different than the author’s “try” at having his reader regard gang drive-bys and mass shootings in unexpected public spaces à la Columbine as being the same thing. Of course they can only be qualified as being the same in the most general sense (i.e. both kinds of events hold the potential for mass casualties). Although even then, it must be admitted that Whites have a significant per capita advantage over Blacks and Hispanics. To my knowledge, no Crip or MS-13 member has yet to approach the raw numbers of a Stephen Paddock, Adam Lanza, or James Huberty, much less against random strangers unconnected to the perpetrator.

    At the very least one must concede that Whites are also major contributors to statistics of violent deaths in the US. Rather than deny this, it would be better to examine why this may be the case in order to prevent future tragedies. Significant inroads have been made in reducing Black and Hispanic gun violence rates from their all-time highs in the 1970s – 1990s; various studies and charity organizations have helped to alleviate this problem. Certainly it has not vanished, but one need no longer worry about being randomly held up and shot in Compton during broad daylight anymore. (In fact, many of these former crime-plagued areas are now among the most active housing markets in their respective regions.) I cannot see why a similar approach could not work in stemming the rates of these shooting sprees.

    Christ, you must like the sound of your own voice.

    No one here has ever denied that whites are not capable of vicious and dastardly things. We have a long list of embarrassments and the prisons were full of the dregs of white civilization.

    However, since the sixties blacks have grown to be far more prolific than whites in the area of criminality.

    They kill each other with such enthusiasm that it’s surprising there’s any left and yet you can sit there and split hairs pertaining to definitions.

    The victims are just as dead.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  87. 90% of cross-racial crime is black on white.

    There is very little white on black crime of any kind.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Robert Dolan Post 88-------2 reasons why Whites on Black crime is rare....#1. Whites don't want dey 200 buck sneakers or rented rims. #2. Black women are less sexually appealing than the Ford Edsel.
  88. @Worst White
    That's an incredible leap of intellectual folly. The very thing you describe is not a thing....Whites are largely NOT inclined to criminality. Blacks overwhelmingly ARE!

    Why was my aforementioned comment an “incredible leap of intellectual folly”? Because it did not suit or flatter you? Last I checked, Whites were still human; therefore as prone to venality and crime as anyone else. No different from athletic and intellectual achievement, criminal tendencies tend to exhibit differences between races. Whether we want to or not, we all have natural aptitudes for certain activities—be they for good or otherwise.

  89. Most inconvenient facts. I posted this in answer to Biden on his Twitter drivel today about white terrorism.

    Still it is worth noting that most wars are in countries populated by black and brown people and are started and sustained by the ostensibly ‘white’ USA. White terrorism is a thing but it is generally ‘white’ states doing it not exclusively white people.

  90. @Commentator Mike
    The word is "amok" or running amok, and originates with the Malays, but all races and cultures are prone to such spree killings. Before guns other weapons were used.

    The example that came to my mind was the Viking tradition of the Berserker.

  91. @Rurik

    MONTEVIDEO, Aug 5 (Reuters) - Uruguay on Monday issued a warning to its citizens traveling to the United States after two mass shootings over the weekend that killed 31 people in Texas and Ohio.

    In a press release, the Foreign Ministry advised avoiding cities such as Detroit, Baltimore and Albuquerque, which it said are among the 20 most dangerous in the world, citing an index by CEOWORLD magazine.

    Travelers are urged to take precautions "in the face of growing indiscriminate violence, mostly for hate crimes, including racism and discrimination, which cost the lives of more than 250 people in the first seven months of this year," it said in the release also posted on President Tabare Vazquez's website
     
    http://news.trust.org/item/20190805222033-2xswk

    Does Uruguay get its State Dept. information from CNN?!

    How can the 'indiscriminate violence" in places like Detroit involve 'racism', when it's virtually all black on black savagery?

    But then, if you've grown up with Western (((media))), then when a Negro thug in Detroit or Baltimore shoots another Negro thug, yep.. that's right. It's all a direct consequence of 'white racism'.

    Hutu hacks Tutsi? It's Joe Sixpack's fault in Nebraska.

    Crips shoots Bloods? Blame Joe.

    The disproportionately higher black on white crime as compared to white on black crime could be a result of racism and hate – I mean black racism and hate towards whites. But since the media highlights white serial and mass murderers then of course people will get a different picture than the statistics show.

    There could however be something of an inverted white racism in the way liberal media gives more prominence to white crime and seems to condemn it more than black crime. It could be that they hold whites to higher standards than blacks and don’t expect such behaviour from them, but expect blacks to behave like animals. A sort of unspoken white racism in the way they treat and report crime in the MSM. Because let’s face it they can’t really all believe their propaganda shit; even the more sensible blacks in the media surely know the reality, despite what they tell the public when live on the air.

    Since I assume that most whites, instinctively or unconsciously, even most of the liberal whites who appear, or pretend to be, anti-racist in their public pronouncements, generally avoid black areas or having to deal with the more violent black types, then the high rates of black on white crime would suggest that blacks go out of their way to find white victims to beat, rob, rape and kill. Most of the black on white crime wouldn’t then be coincidental but deliberate. Surely even any honest black would advise you not to go into certain high crime areas, which would tend to be black.

  92. When msm presstitutes report on a White criminal, I ask one Q: Would this be reported on of perp was dindu?

    99/100 times the answer is NO. News would last all day!

  93. This article changed my mind about the racial profile of mass shooters in America, but also confirmed what I already know from my frequent visit to the gun range , and that is the fact that African Americans are lousy shots. Can’t hit a target at 25 yards if their life depended on it.

  94. @Robert Dolan
    90% of cross-racial crime is black on white.

    There is very little white on black crime of any kind.

    Robert Dolan Post 88——-2 reasons why Whites on Black crime is rare….#1. Whites don’t want dey 200 buck sneakers or rented rims. #2. Black women are less sexually appealing than the Ford Edsel.

    • Agree: Feedsackroad
  95. @Sick of Orcs
    Just passing along a meme...isn't it odd how the news instantly had the El Paso bozo's unusually-free-of-grammatical-errors manifesto?

    Yes, however it could lead somewhere if an investigator would compare the writing style in the manifesto to the suspects school work. I doubt there would be any similarity found, and that would prove the involvement of at least 1 more person and consequently a conspiracy exists. Conspiracy = 2 or more persons covertly plan, and then commit an overt act in furtherance of a crime. Any news on the reports of 3 or 4 military clad shooters?

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Already read this morning that 8chan declared that the shooter was not the person who uploaded the manifesto.
  96. @the grand wazoo
    Yes, however it could lead somewhere if an investigator would compare the writing style in the manifesto to the suspects school work. I doubt there would be any similarity found, and that would prove the involvement of at least 1 more person and consequently a conspiracy exists. Conspiracy = 2 or more persons covertly plan, and then commit an overt act in furtherance of a crime. Any news on the reports of 3 or 4 military clad shooters?

    Already read this morning that 8chan declared that the shooter was not the person who uploaded the manifesto.

  97. @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Jim bob Lassiter Post 10--------Do you ever wish that one or more victims of "Teen" assault rampages carried a 15 shot Glock 19 ?????

    Did you notice that there is a reply button under each comment? If you use it, the commenter’s name will be at the head of your reply and a reader can see what you are responding to by hovering.

  98. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Very interesting!!!! (and fishy)
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-03-five-questions-blow-apart-the-official-fake-news-narrative-el-paso-walmart-shooting.html

    That’s a good one. Thanks.

  99. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    At the risk of making myself very unpopular hereabouts, led me add that Mr. Kersey’s article, if not quite incorrect, at least needs an asterisk appended to it.

    There are no disputing the statistics cited: They are accurate. What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”. In other words, their definitions are being stretched in order to flatter their respective pet political concerns.

    True, one need only look to Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or any other Black-majority city in the US to see the alarming rate of gun violence, often involving multiple victims. However, there is a big caveat to be made here. Consider this shooting, which just occurred yesterday in Brooklyn:

    https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/08/05/shooting-at-crown-heights-vigil-injures-four/


    An early-morning vigil in Crown Heights was violently interrupted Monday when a shooter opened fire, injuring four people, police said[...]

    Two men and two women were shot, though all were in stable condition as of Monday morning, according to a police spokesperson[...]

    Police, who said the shooting was “targeted” and “gang-related,” taped off the street and were collecting evidence later Monday morning[...]
     

    Most of the aforementioned crimes cited by Messrs. Kersey and Flaherty were of a similar nature: Borne from personal or inter/intra factional (i.e. gang) disputes which featured perpetrators who kept specific targets in mind. Innocent bystanders often become involved, but usually are not themselves the focus of the perpetrator.

    The recent shooting sprees are rather different. None of the people shot at, say, the Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas were specifically chosen by Stephen Paddock to die, much less did he know any of them individually. To our knowledge, none had personally slighted, crossed, or betrayed him, nor were they affiliated with an underworld group that was an antagonist to the perpetrator. In Paddock’s mind, these festival goers were no “innocent bystanders”—they were the actual targets. As such he shot as many as he possibly could in the time allotted to him simply because that was the point.

    So what is a “mass shooting”? If we understand its meaning as per Mr. Kersey’s interpretation of it—as any shooting with multiple victims—then his thesis would be correct. However, the current popular definition of a “mass shooting” appears to be rather more limited: A violent event, usually involving a lone perpetrator, occurring unexpectedly within crowded public spaces, with no specific targets, and often with, at best, only a vague explanation as to why it occurred at all. Defined in that way, then it becomes immediately clear that the urban violence cited in the article, atrocious though it is, cannot be considered in the same light with the shootings by Stephen Paddock, Santino Legan, Patrick Crusius, et al. Which is not to say that Blacks or Hispanics are not capable of such crimes (e.g. Nikolas Cruz), but it must be admitted that when defined as per the above, Whites would seem to hold a statically significant lead.

    Stereotypes, one often hears from those whose beliefs would be categorized in the dissident right, are often proven true; and minority groups complaining about them are often harangued with the sort of glib slogans especially beloved by Americans—brief, catchy, but usually meaningless—such as “facts don’t care about your feelings” or whatever. They would be right to point to the general veracity of those stereotypes, at any rate. Blacks and Hispanics (among many other minority groups) ought not to ignore the very real faults that exist within their communities and in their characters. Instead of pretending they do not exist, it would be for the collective good—theirs as well as their neighbors—to face up to their shortcomings and strive to do better. We cannot pretend as if Baltimore or Washington, DC have not suffered and would not benefit from collective introspection and will to improve.

    But as we all know, everybody has a little ox they do not want gored; and when unflattering stereotypes are turned onto Whites, one never fails to encounter an “alt-right” opinion piece that oleaginously denies them, absolving their kinfolk of any need for collective responsibility.

    Why Whites are more prone to these kill sprees in public spaces I have no idea, though do have a number of theories. Perhaps Whites are still grappling with the fallout of the close of the frontier. Maybe it has to do with the left’s attacks on “toxic masculinity”; or on the anonymity of urban (and increasingly even rural) life in the US, the dwindling opportunities to be known. Probably we have reached a point in history where the expression of American individualism can only be successful when taken to extremes; whether it is by taking selfies from dangerous locales, engaging in life-threatening activities, “coming out” as the latest sexual minority du jour, or shooting as many random people in public. For those who cannot achieve fame by honorable means, infamy may be suitable enough. Or it could also be all of the above—or none. This will be a matter for future historians and sociologists to ponder.

    Whatever the roots of this phenomenon, it will not matter whether guns are banned or not, whether “mental health” becomes a priority or not. None of those things are likely to occur anyway; no political will on either side of the US political spectrum. One thing I am fairly certain of: These shootings will get worse before they get better.

    ” What needs to be properly considered is how we define “mass shooting”; because its definition is currently being subverted by the pro-gun, White nationalist right in similar fashion to the anti-gun, pro-multiculturalist left’s politicization of the word “terrorism”.”

    That is not the case with this article. The author is using the definition applied by the police jurisdictions reporting these shootings. Your claim that this way of defining the term comes from some group you call the ” pro-gun, White nationalist right” is false. Use of that type of label for a large segment of society is abhorrent to me, because it’s exactly the way the MSM refers to people that they want to demonize.

    Here’s the big difference between the “mass shootings” by whites that you’re on about and the multiple shootings by blacks: The mass shootings are fakes. The black multiple shootings happen all the time.

    Don’t worry too much about becoming unpopular here. There are plenty of egghead types here who will defend your snidely worded assaults on us simply because your posts are so long and/or because you’re Hispanic. I’m not one of those, but they do exist here.

  100. @Tired of Not Winning
    It's because blacks tend to 1) shoot other blacks, mostly people they know and 2) for no apparent motive other than to rob or hot-headedness.

    Whites tend to shoot complete strangers and usually have a motive.

    Regardless, it's still ridiculous that liberals will only focus on gun control rather than discussing the motives, and their role in those motives. The Dayton shooter was flamed by leftist hate perpetuated by the media, while the shooter in El Paso was enraged by the left's push for open borders. Both are caused by leftist lunacy. But (((the left))) is known for their dishonesty and inability to accept any self-critique, hence the continued blame on gun support and push for gun control.

    Good points, especially “their role.”

  101. This is not up to your usual standards, Paul. Two weeks is a ridiculously short time to make any sort of conclusions about the issue. But more importantly not all of these qualify as mass shooter events, which as I understand it, means four or more casualties.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Like the ridiculous conclusion that whites are responsible for all mass shootings?

    Even if you remove some of the ones you disagree with you still have to be impressed by the prolific killing ability of the negro.
  102. @gloob
    This is not up to your usual standards, Paul. Two weeks is a ridiculously short time to make any sort of conclusions about the issue. But more importantly not all of these qualify as mass shooter events, which as I understand it, means four or more casualties.

    Like the ridiculous conclusion that whites are responsible for all mass shootings?

    Even if you remove some of the ones you disagree with you still have to be impressed by the prolific killing ability of the negro.

    • Agree: Pepe the Frog
  103. Good let them kill each other.

  104. @Dr. Pepper
    Yes...this is newsworthy, but the mainstream media will not accept this as news because it goes against their pets. Chicago just had a relatively bad weekend with some emergency rooms shutting down, but it isn't white enough for them to cover.

    I’m black, work at the hospital you’re speaking of, and am typing this from my desk. I’m not sure about the mainstream media, but it was widely reported throughout Chicago publications. It’s a pretty insane reality to live in, especially as a young black male that’s trying to stay out of the way and work for the lifestyle I desire. Always knowing in the back of my mind, that I’m the perfect description of the next innocent bystander to be killed.

    There’s practically nothing that can be done about the violence. Too much blood has been shed, the gang rivalries and shootings won’t stop until everyone involved is dead.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    I am sorry if this seems rude, and I tend to believe that your comment‘s description of you is true, and that you’re probably a person of good will.

    The shootings won’t stop as long as your fellow Africans live according to their general nature and proclivities. Which means, until and unless we remove Africans en masse from our country — or pay them systematically to sterilize themselves at a young age — as we should have done long ago, the shooting won’t stop.

    I do respect you for being, presumably, nothing like them in your outlook and conduct, but that doesn’t change the overwhelming, consistent pattern of violence and lack of self restraint among African-“Americans.”

    Man if you are who you say you are, you are in a tough position, and a rather unfair one for you. Unfair, in part, because people on this board and in real life, including me to some degree, tend to lump you in with the savages because of your race. But how should we defend our families, neighborhoods, schools, society, if not by acknowledging the brutal truth (about persistent racial group differences) and acting in accordance with it? The cost of being naively wrong and trusting and “fair” is far too high.

    Nice pitching btw.

    , @Jim in Jersey
    Nonsense.

    A good mayor and a good police chief could and would turn that city around if anyone in Chicago government had a spine.

    All you have to say to ‘community activists’ is NO! All you have to say to the legions of ghetto-lottery lawyers is NO! All you have to do is pull the plug in the machine and it all snaps back to normal pretty damn quick.

    Don’t expect it to happen anytime soon, though.
  105. “Although even then, it must be admitted that Whites have a significant per capita advantage over Blacks and Hispanics. To my knowledge, no Crip or MS-13 member has yet to approach the raw numbers of a Stephen Paddock, Adam Lanza, or James Huberty, much less against random strangers unconnected to the perpetrator.”
    You may have forgotten “non-whites” Omar Mateen (killed 49 in Orlando) and Seung-Hui Cho (32 at Va Tech). Only Paddock killed more (and no one has a clue about Paddock’s motives). Somehow you think murdering other gang members or spraying bullets in a competing neighborhood is that much different than murdering competing Blacks (Dylann Roof), “Invading Hispanics” (Patrick Crusius) or Jews bringing in Hispanic “invaders” (Robert Bowers)? Each of these kinds of people went about their own little personal war, planning their actions, sharing views with other extremists (most fortunately just fantasize and never go forward). Gang shootings may involve more people and may hit more unintended targets (“collateral damage”) but is driven by the same hate.
    Whites make up over 60% of the population, Blacks 13% and immigrants/ children of immigrants 15% or so. One would expect whites to account for about 60% of mass shootings (all by males of each group). Blacks are disproportinately responsible for over half the murders in the US including many mass shootings, mostly other Blacks, just as most murders by all groups are intra-racial. The immigrants and their children disproportionately are mass murderers, probably because they are frustrated about assimilation and acceptance; recent examples are Dimitrios Pagourtzis, Arcan Cetin, Omar Mateen, Mohammod Youssuf Abdulazeez, Nam Le, Chi Dinh Ta, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, not sure about Zephan Xaver?
    The white Supremacist trope is a narrative from above. Most likely to serve Police State interests.

  106. @bruce county
    I am not up on US constitutional law. But if what donkey face Kamala seeks; to do door to door sweeps using data bases of gun owners to begin with, and a law is struck to confiscate weapons I think they will be plowing right through your Fourth Amendment Rights and front door.. . Your 4th Amendment Rights will mean jack shit. It is not going to come to that. If everyone refused to turn over their weapons what are they going to do.?? Legal and fully registered gun ownership is barely 2 million in the US. So are they going to start the gun confiscation by jailing a possible 2 million people who refuse to turn over their guns?? I don't think so. They would have a problem with the other gun owners coming to their defence. They would have hundreds of thousands Randy Weaver/ Ruby Ridge situations.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153

    There are several HUNDRED million firearms legally owned by US Citizens in the USA, not two million.

    No way are there only two million firearms legally owned and registered even if we stick just to states where you must register a firearm with the government merely to own it.

    As for what the us gov will do if people refuse to turn over their firearms: deploy the National Guard or the active military itself to surround resistors’ homes, murder them or arrest them and prosecute them and send them to prison for years on felony charges — to be raped and, whenever the authorities want, murdered in prison. Still I do hope that people refuse to be disarmed, because whatever is left of our rights and dignity will be gone once we are disarmed.

    Anybody who wants you to be physically defenseless, does not have good things planned for you.

  107. @Jim in Jersey
    Considering they can’t bypass the constitution or the Second Amendment and have no power to curtail gun rights and a federal level at least, this is all a moot point.

    The state gets around it by adding “provisions“ to the second amendment . I don’t know if that’s ever been challenged but then again we don’t get to make the rules. Constitutional conventions are difficult though. These minor end runs are easier and the weight adds up equally over time.

    What country are we living in where the gov can’t ignore and violate the second amendment? It’s not the USA. Power flows from the barrel of a gun, said a famous communist totalitarian, and he was right on that score.

    They can do whatever they can get away with, and demographics is shifting politics permanently in favor of the people who want to take away our means of defending ourselves.

    The “justices” of the Supreme Court will reverse Heller v. DC and other relatively pro-gun / pro-self-defense precedents as soon as the Dems gets the White House and senate back and replace a couple members of the “high court.” That could occur in the presidential term beginning January 2029, at the very latest, and probably sooner.

  108. @Ryu
    I'm black, work at the hospital you're speaking of, and am typing this from my desk. I'm not sure about the mainstream media, but it was widely reported throughout Chicago publications. It's a pretty insane reality to live in, especially as a young black male that's trying to stay out of the way and work for the lifestyle I desire. Always knowing in the back of my mind, that I'm the perfect description of the next innocent bystander to be killed.

    There's practically nothing that can be done about the violence. Too much blood has been shed, the gang rivalries and shootings won't stop until everyone involved is dead.

    I am sorry if this seems rude, and I tend to believe that your comment‘s description of you is true, and that you’re probably a person of good will.

    The shootings won’t stop as long as your fellow Africans live according to their general nature and proclivities. Which means, until and unless we remove Africans en masse from our country — or pay them systematically to sterilize themselves at a young age — as we should have done long ago, the shooting won’t stop.

    I do respect you for being, presumably, nothing like them in your outlook and conduct, but that doesn’t change the overwhelming, consistent pattern of violence and lack of self restraint among African-“Americans.”

    Man if you are who you say you are, you are in a tough position, and a rather unfair one for you. Unfair, in part, because people on this board and in real life, including me to some degree, tend to lump you in with the savages because of your race. But how should we defend our families, neighborhoods, schools, society, if not by acknowledging the brutal truth (about persistent racial group differences) and acting in accordance with it? The cost of being naively wrong and trusting and “fair” is far too high.

    Nice pitching btw.

  109. @Ryu
    I'm black, work at the hospital you're speaking of, and am typing this from my desk. I'm not sure about the mainstream media, but it was widely reported throughout Chicago publications. It's a pretty insane reality to live in, especially as a young black male that's trying to stay out of the way and work for the lifestyle I desire. Always knowing in the back of my mind, that I'm the perfect description of the next innocent bystander to be killed.

    There's practically nothing that can be done about the violence. Too much blood has been shed, the gang rivalries and shootings won't stop until everyone involved is dead.

    Nonsense.

    A good mayor and a good police chief could and would turn that city around if anyone in Chicago government had a spine.

    All you have to say to ‘community activists’ is NO! All you have to say to the legions of ghetto-lottery lawyers is NO! All you have to do is pull the plug in the machine and it all snaps back to normal pretty damn quick.

    Don’t expect it to happen anytime soon, though.

    • Agree: Pepe the Frog
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