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“These juvenile criminals hit a low level. Born with only the instinct for survival, the highest morality they achieved was a shaky loyalty to a peer group, a street gang. But the do-gooders attempted to ‘appeal to their better natures,’ to ‘reach them,’ to ‘spark their moral sense.’ Tosh! They had no ‘better natures’; experience taught them that what they were doing was the way to survive. The puppy never got his spanking; therefore what he did with pleasure and success must be ‘moral.’


“The basis of all morality is duty, a concept with the same relation to group that self-interest has to individual. Nobody preached duty to these kids in a way they could understand — that is, with a spanking. But the society they were in told them endlessly about their ‘rights.’ – Starship Troopers, Robert Heinlein

What is a ‘right’? As the China Virus washes across the globe like a tidal wave, your friendly, neighborhood ACLU has only one goal in mind: pressure authorities across the United States to let criminals out of jail. [ACLU calls on Justice Department, Bureau of Prisons to release inmates vulnerable to coronavirus, The Hill, March 18, 2020]:

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) requested the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) release prisoners who are vulnerable to coronavirus to prevent an outbreak in federal prisons.

The letter, addressed to Attorney General William Barr and BOP Director Michael Carvajal called on the agencies to “take immediate action to safeguard” the prisoners, specifically those who are elderly or have chronic health conditions.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has designated these demographics as most susceptible to serious illness or death.

The union requested the officials “increase the use of compassionate release” to limit overcrowding that could intensify an outbreak in the bureau’s 122 facilities that hold almost a quarter of a million inmates.

“The same social distancing principles guiding public and private sector responses should guide the BOP’s response and ensure that its facilities do not unnecessarily bring people into confined spaces that may lead to greater exposure to coronavirus,” the letter reads. “Deliberate action must be taken to meet the responsibility to ensure the health of those incarcerated in the federal system.”

The union requested the officials “increase the use of compassionate release” to limit overcrowding that could intensify an outbreak in the bureau’s 122 facilities that hold almost a quarter of a million inmates.

The ACLU and 14 of its affiliates also sent a letter to state and local officials across the country, appealing governors to commute sentences that will end in the next two years or less and those being held on a technical supervision violation.

The letter to local officials also called on police to stop arresting people for minor offenses and prosecutors to avoid cash bail requests. The letter also asks that prosecutors implement a review-and-release protocol for inmates who sought bail in the past 30 days.

The ACLU requested judges to allow those with open criminal cases and an upcoming hearing to voluntarily waive the hearing or attend digitally, sheriffs to keep facilities “empty, safe, and clean” and probation and parole agents to speed up and extend release opportunities.

If there were a zombie apocalypse, you can bet your entire brokerage account the ACLU would be advocating for the rights of the zombies.

ORDER IT NOW

While more and more states mandate mandatory quarantines, the ACLU is advocating for criminals to be released from jail, a reminder criminal justice reform is an idea even a global pandemic won’t stop… even as the ‘rights’ of the law-abiding are restricted to try and ensure social distancing stop the China Virus.

Of course, the ACLU would rather social distancing the criminals from the law-abiding be abandoned as a policy immediately, regardless of if a global pandemic is raging or not.

Heinlein, more than any other science fiction writer, knew ‘rights’ were nothing more than a fiction if a people forgot about duty.

 
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  1. If Inspector Harry Callahan was still around he would be all broken up about the rights of these criminals.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @bruce county
    Good one...
  2. I would think prison would be one of the safer places to not come in contact with Coronavirus. Checking the guards temperatures, deep cleaning their uniforms, making sure they scrub up before shift.
    Letting prisoners out onto the streets will only increase their chances of contracting it. How do they expect these older ex-cons to just reacclimate back into society? We are supposedly on the brink of a worldwide recession, so where are 60+ year old felons going to find a job to support themselves? Fingers crossed that they keep track of these newly freed citizens, and report the fact they were part of the early release program when they are rearrested for various crimes.

  3. OT: It’s about time, should have done this 20 years ago.

    https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/local/military-vehicles-seen-in-downtown-baltimore

    • Agree: kikz
    • Replies: @Female in FL
    I hope they have ammo this time. My BIL was in the guard during the Miami riots, he had a rifle but no ammo.
  4. Release all criminals! Black ones anyway. What could possibly go wrong?

    We’re already ceasing prosecutions of POCs for crime in general, so long as they don’t leave a body in evidence. Just as in Philly, Baltimore, and California–and various other places–you may be certain that this is a prelude to making these temporary ‘relaxations’ of the rule of law permanent. It’s an incremental grab, just like all of the tricks Schumer and Pelosi are larding into the emergency measures in Congress. Never let a crisis go to waste, as they say.

    They’ll get their way, because feckless Republicans are too stupid, too distracted, or too co-opted to do anything about it. We’ll wake up with UBI, but only for POCs, no more arrests or prosecutions of POCs for anything (unless they attack Chosenites), Medicare for All (All the people they like) and of course Speech Codes for White People, in place of the U.S. Constitution.

    • Replies: @Anonymouswatcher37
    Well considering how they've attacked more than a few" chosenites" in New York and New Jersey and not much happene....
    , @anon
    Uh huh.
    WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE do these ACLU morons and ultimately, Leftists, gain by releasing the ferals?
    You and others talk as if it's Leftists' intent to sic feral apes on innocent people. For no reason.
    No reason at all behind this.
    Couldn't possibly be because a mass outbreak in prisons would be a financial catastrophe. Couldn't possibly be that huh, intelligent Unz folks?
    Really folks?
    Oh yeah the Unz commentariat are so intelligent
    , @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Mr. McKenna-------I have a liberal,progressive,SJW blue state cousin who has Face Book shamed me for years for being a pro-Trump gun owner.His state is opening the jail house doors and opening the prison gates.Unable to purchase a gun,he now wants to borrow a couple of mine.Haha-Hoho-HHEEEEEhe. We hell freezes over.
  5. Well, I would have to agree with the ACLU about letting geezers out of prison. Thanks to the ACLU, if they get sick, we have to keep the POS alive.

    • Replies: @Loren
    if this continues, hospitals will soon be overwhelmed.
    , @Anon
    Here’s what happens to the handicapped old geezer prisoners. They get set up with Medicare and go right into nursing homes with the civilian patients and medics. My attorney does personal injury. He has several clients who were seriously injured and or raped by fellow patients who’d been moved directly from prison to the nursing homes. The nursing homes are liable.

    Have to remember, only the really dangerous murderers serial killers etc serve those decades long sentences.
  6. If the political elite are going to release criminals, those bad people will simply think the law is weak, and will go back to old habits, or escalate their criminal acts, enriching lawyers and judges.

    Having been very sick of late and bedridden for over two months, I’ve watched a lot of those true crime channels. One thing obvious I’ve learned is that a lot of crimes (at least 20%) could be avoided if more people were armed. For those who aren’t, please consider arming yourselves.

  7. Wouldn’t jail be the best form of quarantine? Effectively no different than the cruise ships…

    Of course, we’d have to ban all of visits, conjugal and otherwise, which I’m sure the ACLU and cohorts would rigorously oppose…

    • Replies: @Betty
    Already happening
  8. The ACLU. More accurately should be called the ACLJew. Not surprising this is what they’re advocating.

    • Replies: @Loren
    All

    Criminals

    Love

    Us
  9. TLM : thug lives matter (more than law-abiding Americans)

  10. If I understand this correctly, criminals should be free to wander about while the rest of us should be quarantined — effectively put under house arrest. Ah, liberal logic at its best.

    • Replies: @Exhausted of Knee Grows
    Ran out of "agrees" at the moment so I had to leave a comment to you that I agree, instead ;)
  11. @Sick 'n Tired
    OT: It's about time, should have done this 20 years ago.


    https://foxbaltimore.com/amp/news/local/military-vehicles-seen-in-downtown-baltimore

    I hope they have ammo this time. My BIL was in the guard during the Miami riots, he had a rifle but no ammo.

    • Agree: kikz
    • Replies: @Augustus
    They sometimes have magazines, but only 3 rounds. They can't put the magazine in the rifle unless it is an extreme emergency.
    , @europeasant
    I was in the army back in the mid 70's. I had guard duty one time in the states and had the M-16 but only one bullet. The other time was on Europe guarding an ammo dump and had no bullets. I guess I was expected to do hand to hand combat in case shit happened!
    But maybe they gave me only one bullet because in basic training I was first in rifle shooting in the battalion training class so they figured I only needed one bullet. I can't understand why police need to fire so many rounds in some cases 16 shots to bring down one perp. The police train at my rifle range and I can tell you the bullet hits are all over the place. A waste of money.
  12. American Criminal Liberties Union.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Alinsky's Craven Libertine Utopia.

    American Cuckolds: Locusts Uncaged.

    Abetting Criminals' Leeway Unfettered.

  13. @Redneck farmer
    Well, I would have to agree with the ACLU about letting geezers out of prison. Thanks to the ACLU, if they get sick, we have to keep the POS alive.

    if this continues, hospitals will soon be overwhelmed.

  14. @Gunga Din
    The ACLU. More accurately should be called the ACLJew. Not surprising this is what they're advocating.

    All

    Criminals

    Love

    Us

  15. You would think that at a time when the government was taking liberties with individual freedoms and mandating stay-at-home policies that the ACLU would be up in arms fighting for the restoration of individual responsibility and freedom.

    That is, if that was the purpose of the ACLU.

    Instead, they seek to use this opportunity to try to flush the prison system out into the street as the government pulls back any support provided by the police and further restricts access to second amendment rights.

    Just goes to show you… the ACLU is not in your side and neither is the government. You’re alone in this. If you don’t ‘have’ already and somehow make it through this,… then lesson learned. Prep hard for the next time and don’t complain.

    I’m still working and haven’t been impacted by any of the nonsense the rabble is suffering. I don’t hunt for toilet paper. I don’t hunt for water. I’m not looking to top off my ammo right now.

    I am bringing some long guns up from the basement, though.

    Can’t be too careful around panicked people.

    • Agree: bruce county
  16. @Female in FL
    I hope they have ammo this time. My BIL was in the guard during the Miami riots, he had a rifle but no ammo.

    They sometimes have magazines, but only 3 rounds. They can’t put the magazine in the rifle unless it is an extreme emergency.

  17. When has the ACLU ever done anything to defend the Second Amendment.

  18. @BanditOfBlithe
    If Inspector Harry Callahan was still around he would be all broken up about the rights of these criminals.

    Good one…

  19. @Leo D
    Wouldn't jail be the best form of quarantine? Effectively no different than the cruise ships...

    Of course, we'd have to ban all of visits, conjugal and otherwise, which I'm sure the ACLU and cohorts would rigorously oppose...

    Already happening

  20. FYI: The two top leadership positions at the ACLU are occupied by a Latino homosexual and a Jewish woman; most of the other top staff are “visible minorities” — the president of the ACLU, Susan Herman, is another Jew.

    The formulation from the very liberal outlet The Hill clearly makes no sense:

    The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) requested the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) release prisoners who are vulnerable to coronavirus to prevent an outbreak in federal prisons.

    It makes no sense since the concern about COVID-19 is interpersonal contact, and re interpersonal contact, there is no easier population to control than prisoners.

    Here is what it says in the letter:

    BOP must act in conjunction with U.S. Attorneys and the recommendations of public health professionals to release those most vulnerable to coronavirus and to diminish intake of others to reduce overcrowding.

    So that’s just as dumb — they must think we’re all dumb too.

    The problem is, re Dummheit, they’re right about most of the people in politics and working for the government.

    • Replies: @Kim
    24 hour lockdown would be the rational response. But of course their true goal is to create chaos. And so far they are doing pretty well.
  21. OT: Just another crime that will go unprosecuted in Philly. It’s only going to get worse from here.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=91wqk_1584835341

    • Replies: @Love Street
    Cowardly animals
  22. How long till the looting and rioting begins

    • Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    How long till the looting and rioting begins
     
    Family of mine in a southern city that is oft written about on SBPDL has boarded up and GTFO'ed.
  23. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:

    It stands to reason that imprisoned criminals are the least likely population to act like sheep and practice “social distancing”. Thus, the motives behind this are clear, and it’s not to “safeguard” these swine from a runny nose.

  24. @D-FENS
    American Criminal Liberties Union.

    Alinsky’s Craven Libertine Utopia.

    American Cuckolds: Locusts Uncaged.

    Abetting Criminals’ Leeway Unfettered.

  25. @eah
    FYI: The two top leadership positions at the ACLU are occupied by a Latino homosexual and a Jewish woman; most of the other top staff are "visible minorities" -- the president of the ACLU, Susan Herman, is another Jew.

    The formulation from the very liberal outlet The Hill clearly makes no sense:

    The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) requested the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) release prisoners who are vulnerable to coronavirus to prevent an outbreak in federal prisons.
     
    It makes no sense since the concern about COVID-19 is interpersonal contact, and re interpersonal contact, there is no easier population to control than prisoners.

    Here is what it says in the letter:

    BOP must act in conjunction with U.S. Attorneys and the recommendations of public health professionals to release those most vulnerable to coronavirus and to diminish intake of others to reduce overcrowding.
     
    So that's just as dumb -- they must think we're all dumb too.

    The problem is, re Dummheit, they're right about most of the people in politics and working for the government.

    24 hour lockdown would be the rational response. But of course their true goal is to create chaos. And so far they are doing pretty well.

    • Agree: eah
    • Replies: @thotmonger
    https://twitter.com/BubetteS/status/1242529722350723072
  26. You would think that at a time when the government was taking liberties with individual freedoms and mandating stay-at-home policies that the ACLU would be up in arms fighting for the restoration of individual responsibility and freedom.

    Well it was clear they were just a far left group when they came out and said that the second amendment isn’t an individual right. According to them getting into the country illegally is a right however.

    I’m not sure what their end-game is or if they even know. I think the left has gone mad from race denial and some of these remaining groups are really just stoned leftists trying to stick it to polite society.

  27. Civil unrest and rioting will soon break out in major cities so the Squad needs to recruit pirates to teach others how to rape, rob and pillage.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    They don't have to teach them how to do any of that. Thats instinct and genetics. It's what they do.
    , @Jim in Jersey
    So far, I’ve been shocked at the slow pace of all this.

    Could it be that the blacks have given in to the fear of a contagion they don’t understand?

    I understand that local(black area) crime has risen but that just due to proximity. Where’s the looting? Where’s the rioting? I’m almost disappointed!

    They’re calling up the national guard but have frightened their shock troops so much that they stayed home!

    Well, gotta load magazines and make lunch...
  28. Al Sharpton has called for special consideration for the homeless and (black) prisoners. He’s chortling on Twitter that Trump called him to learn more about the details. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump signs on to yet another jail break for non-white criminals while telling us come fall that he’s the law and order president and against socialism after passing a one trillion dollar “gibsmedat” giveaway.

    His cult like followers will forgive Trump for just about anything because………he’s better than the alternative even though Trump’s rapidly turning in to that alternative.

  29. @TwistTie
    How long till the looting and rioting begins

    How long till the looting and rioting begins

    Family of mine in a southern city that is oft written about on SBPDL has boarded up and GTFO’ed.

    • Replies: @PO'd in PG County
    So, that was the night that the lights went out in Georgia? (sorry, couldn't resist)
  30. @Piglet
    If I understand this correctly, criminals should be free to wander about while the rest of us should be quarantined -- effectively put under house arrest. Ah, liberal logic at its best.

    Ran out of “agrees” at the moment so I had to leave a comment to you that I agree, instead 😉

  31. @Sick 'n Tired
    OT: Just another crime that will go unprosecuted in Philly. It's only going to get worse from here.


    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=91wqk_1584835341

    Cowardly animals

  32. @Cliff
    Civil unrest and rioting will soon break out in major cities so the Squad needs to recruit pirates to teach others how to rape, rob and pillage.

    They don’t have to teach them how to do any of that. Thats instinct and genetics. It’s what they do.

  33. @Cliff
    Civil unrest and rioting will soon break out in major cities so the Squad needs to recruit pirates to teach others how to rape, rob and pillage.

    So far, I’ve been shocked at the slow pace of all this.

    Could it be that the blacks have given in to the fear of a contagion they don’t understand?

    I understand that local(black area) crime has risen but that just due to proximity. Where’s the looting? Where’s the rioting? I’m almost disappointed!

    They’re calling up the national guard but have frightened their shock troops so much that they stayed home!

    Well, gotta load magazines and make lunch…

    • LOL: Augustus
  34. Anon[352] • Disclaimer says:

    So, let’s assume that the ACLU and the US DOJ actually let out all the criminals (or they break out after the guard force switches sides / isn’t paid and leaves / the Federal government treats this as a pawn that is exchanged for a moratorium on riots (which won’t be honored, but is accepted anyway to preserve the image of effective action for another week).

    Time to keep communicating but also to take action. Do what you should have done a year ago:

    Prep:
    a) Get a neighborhood watch going. Most police departments support this; Find the officer responsible. Try offering surveillance camera access of street traffic and reliable observer reports in SALUTE format as a sweetener — the police should be anxious to get more real time information about what’s happening on the ground. This is entirely legal, so you won’t have to fight both the police and the marauders.
    b) Read “Sheep No More: The Art of Awareness and Attitude”, then develop a tactical defense plan for your house. “Sheep No More” (downloadable Kindle book as of 2020-03-22) describes typical attack profiles and immediate action drills that can blunt these attacks; He also describes a general methodology for planning defense against attacks that aren’t included in his profiles. The author’s approaches are entirely legal and also will not attract police attention (the more so if you’ve accomplished step (a).
    c) Take a look at “War before Civilization” to get some idea of the threat, which could be a bit worse than “Sheep No” suggests. People in small units revert to that; military discipline exists in large part to prevent this reversion, and I doubt somehow that the release prisoners will be under military (or any other) discipline.

    That’s it, no joke, contact the police, read the materials and get moving. The shutdowns haven’t had time to reach full effect, so rather than panicking, or waiting until you can’t get the materials, plan now.

    If nothing happens, the whole COVID-19 affair fizzles, then you’ve done what you should have done anyway. If things go bad, you’ve at least contributed to maintaining civic peace.

  35. The prisons must be emptied to make room for all the criminals who refuse to fill out the Census.

  36. @Mr McKenna
    Release all criminals! Black ones anyway. What could possibly go wrong?

    We're already ceasing prosecutions of POCs for crime in general, so long as they don't leave a body in evidence. Just as in Philly, Baltimore, and California--and various other places--you may be certain that this is a prelude to making these temporary ‘relaxations’ of the rule of law permanent. It’s an incremental grab, just like all of the tricks Schumer and Pelosi are larding into the emergency measures in Congress. Never let a crisis go to waste, as they say.

    They’ll get their way, because feckless Republicans are too stupid, too distracted, or too co-opted to do anything about it. We’ll wake up with UBI, but only for POCs, no more arrests or prosecutions of POCs for anything (unless they attack Chosenites), Medicare for All (All the people they like) and of course Speech Codes for White People, in place of the U.S. Constitution.

    Well considering how they’ve attacked more than a few” chosenites” in New York and New Jersey and not much happene….

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Right. Except for the arrests, prosecutions, and the MSM making international headlines out of it, not much happened.
  37. The way I look at letting thugs out on the street would be the same as shooting oneself in the foot! As some have noted in the comments, the negroes are safer in their cells than out in the open. What do the fools at the ACLU think these negroes will do? They aren’t going to self-isolate. The reason our nation is in such a bad state is because of people like the ACLU. They are a group who should be dissolved like they did to many white advocate groups. The ACLU is a public menace and we should not have to put up with their nonsense anymore. Criminals should stay in jail – virus or no virus!

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    The last thing anyone who's been in prison for the last few years is going to do is confine themselves to a house, in da hood, which is most likely belonging to grandma, mama, auntie, or baby mama. They are going to want to go out, chase ass, get drunk, and do drugs, all things which require money.
    In S. Florida every bar that doesn't serve food has been closed down, casinos are closed, strip clubs closed, night clubs closed, beaches are closed to car traffic so you have to walk to bike to them, many restaurants are only doing take out, and the grocery stores have been closing at 8pm, so what's an ex-con to do?
    , @Kim
    I am currently reading the memoirs of Sidney Reilly, the famous Mi6 spy who operated in Petrograd and Moscow in the early years of the (((Russian))) Revolution "Adventures of A British Master Spy".

    He relates (with disgust) how the Bolsheviks emptied the civil prisons and filled the ranks of the Cheka with the worst, stupidest, laziest, least educated, most ignorant, violent and cruel and the most resentful and sicced them on whatever was good and decent, encouraging them to smash, grab and destroy without thought.

    There are a lot of ideological similarities between the ACLU and the Bolshevik Cheka.

  38. @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    How long till the looting and rioting begins
     
    Family of mine in a southern city that is oft written about on SBPDL has boarded up and GTFO'ed.

    So, that was the night that the lights went out in Georgia? (sorry, couldn’t resist)

    • Replies: @Boy the way Glenn Miller played
    They are DWLs of the deluded variety, but even they apparently can read the writing on the wall.
  39. @PO'd in PG County
    So, that was the night that the lights went out in Georgia? (sorry, couldn't resist)

    They are DWLs of the deluded variety, but even they apparently can read the writing on the wall.

  40. @Dr. Pepper
    The way I look at letting thugs out on the street would be the same as shooting oneself in the foot! As some have noted in the comments, the negroes are safer in their cells than out in the open. What do the fools at the ACLU think these negroes will do? They aren't going to self-isolate. The reason our nation is in such a bad state is because of people like the ACLU. They are a group who should be dissolved like they did to many white advocate groups. The ACLU is a public menace and we should not have to put up with their nonsense anymore. Criminals should stay in jail - virus or no virus!

    The last thing anyone who’s been in prison for the last few years is going to do is confine themselves to a house, in da hood, which is most likely belonging to grandma, mama, auntie, or baby mama. They are going to want to go out, chase ass, get drunk, and do drugs, all things which require money.
    In S. Florida every bar that doesn’t serve food has been closed down, casinos are closed, strip clubs closed, night clubs closed, beaches are closed to car traffic so you have to walk to bike to them, many restaurants are only doing take out, and the grocery stores have been closing at 8pm, so what’s an ex-con to do?

  41. @Anonymouswatcher37
    Well considering how they've attacked more than a few" chosenites" in New York and New Jersey and not much happene....

    Right. Except for the arrests, prosecutions, and the MSM making international headlines out of it, not much happened.

  42. The government should – as a priority – airlift large amounts of suitable reading material to these areas so that the POC have something to occupy their minds during the long hours indoors.

    Perhaps Reader’s Digest could be nationalized for the duration?

    • LOL: Augustus
  43. @Dr. Pepper
    The way I look at letting thugs out on the street would be the same as shooting oneself in the foot! As some have noted in the comments, the negroes are safer in their cells than out in the open. What do the fools at the ACLU think these negroes will do? They aren't going to self-isolate. The reason our nation is in such a bad state is because of people like the ACLU. They are a group who should be dissolved like they did to many white advocate groups. The ACLU is a public menace and we should not have to put up with their nonsense anymore. Criminals should stay in jail - virus or no virus!

    I am currently reading the memoirs of Sidney Reilly, the famous Mi6 spy who operated in Petrograd and Moscow in the early years of the (((Russian))) Revolution “Adventures of A British Master Spy”.

    He relates (with disgust) how the Bolsheviks emptied the civil prisons and filled the ranks of the Cheka with the worst, stupidest, laziest, least educated, most ignorant, violent and cruel and the most resentful and sicced them on whatever was good and decent, encouraging them to smash, grab and destroy without thought.

    There are a lot of ideological similarities between the ACLU and the Bolshevik Cheka.

    • Agree: Augustus
  44. @Female in FL
    I hope they have ammo this time. My BIL was in the guard during the Miami riots, he had a rifle but no ammo.

    I was in the army back in the mid 70’s. I had guard duty one time in the states and had the M-16 but only one bullet. The other time was on Europe guarding an ammo dump and had no bullets. I guess I was expected to do hand to hand combat in case shit happened!
    But maybe they gave me only one bullet because in basic training I was first in rifle shooting in the battalion training class so they figured I only needed one bullet. I can’t understand why police need to fire so many rounds in some cases 16 shots to bring down one perp. The police train at my rifle range and I can tell you the bullet hits are all over the place. A waste of money.

    • Replies: @Piglet
    I too was in the Army in Germany in the mid-70s and your experience is a common one. I think Army leadership thought it was wiser to have those on guard duty carry unloaded weapons and have no ammo on them, making them little more than scarecrows, rather than risk bored GIs on guard duty accidentally shooting themselves or others. (Mind you, this was during the days of the Bader-Meinhof Gang and the troubles they caused.) The leadership seemed to regard GIs as a bunch of children.

    Army GIs visiting air bases were astounded to see that USAF security policemen manning the gates actually had loaded weapons, as did those guarding aircraft on the flight line. (And yes, they would use them if you were a threat to the aircraft.) Likewise, they were surprised to see German soldiers on guard duty at Bundeswehr bases carrying loaded weapons.

    We had gotten used to being treated like children and were surprised to encounter others who weren't.
    , @Female in FL
    The standards have been lowered for police officers, we don’t get the best for the job anymore.
    Same thing happened at my ex’s gun club. Cops are allowed to practice at the range free of charge. They are lucky if they can hit the side of a barn.
    I suppose the reasoning for the one bullet was you would get the first perp and the others would take off running.
    Good thing you made it out alive.
    , @Female in FL
    The standards have been lowered for police officers, we don’t get the best for the job anymore.
    Same thing happened at my ex’s gun club. Cops are allowed to practice at the range free of charge. They are lucky if they can hit the side of a barn.
    I suppose the reasoning for the one bullet was you would get the first perp and the others would take off running.
    Good thing you made it out alive.
  45. @europeasant
    I was in the army back in the mid 70's. I had guard duty one time in the states and had the M-16 but only one bullet. The other time was on Europe guarding an ammo dump and had no bullets. I guess I was expected to do hand to hand combat in case shit happened!
    But maybe they gave me only one bullet because in basic training I was first in rifle shooting in the battalion training class so they figured I only needed one bullet. I can't understand why police need to fire so many rounds in some cases 16 shots to bring down one perp. The police train at my rifle range and I can tell you the bullet hits are all over the place. A waste of money.

    I too was in the Army in Germany in the mid-70s and your experience is a common one. I think Army leadership thought it was wiser to have those on guard duty carry unloaded weapons and have no ammo on them, making them little more than scarecrows, rather than risk bored GIs on guard duty accidentally shooting themselves or others. (Mind you, this was during the days of the Bader-Meinhof Gang and the troubles they caused.) The leadership seemed to regard GIs as a bunch of children.

    Army GIs visiting air bases were astounded to see that USAF security policemen manning the gates actually had loaded weapons, as did those guarding aircraft on the flight line. (And yes, they would use them if you were a threat to the aircraft.) Likewise, they were surprised to see German soldiers on guard duty at Bundeswehr bases carrying loaded weapons.

    We had gotten used to being treated like children and were surprised to encounter others who weren’t.

  46. @europeasant
    I was in the army back in the mid 70's. I had guard duty one time in the states and had the M-16 but only one bullet. The other time was on Europe guarding an ammo dump and had no bullets. I guess I was expected to do hand to hand combat in case shit happened!
    But maybe they gave me only one bullet because in basic training I was first in rifle shooting in the battalion training class so they figured I only needed one bullet. I can't understand why police need to fire so many rounds in some cases 16 shots to bring down one perp. The police train at my rifle range and I can tell you the bullet hits are all over the place. A waste of money.

    The standards have been lowered for police officers, we don’t get the best for the job anymore.
    Same thing happened at my ex’s gun club. Cops are allowed to practice at the range free of charge. They are lucky if they can hit the side of a barn.
    I suppose the reasoning for the one bullet was you would get the first perp and the others would take off running.
    Good thing you made it out alive.

  47. @europeasant
    I was in the army back in the mid 70's. I had guard duty one time in the states and had the M-16 but only one bullet. The other time was on Europe guarding an ammo dump and had no bullets. I guess I was expected to do hand to hand combat in case shit happened!
    But maybe they gave me only one bullet because in basic training I was first in rifle shooting in the battalion training class so they figured I only needed one bullet. I can't understand why police need to fire so many rounds in some cases 16 shots to bring down one perp. The police train at my rifle range and I can tell you the bullet hits are all over the place. A waste of money.

    The standards have been lowered for police officers, we don’t get the best for the job anymore.
    Same thing happened at my ex’s gun club. Cops are allowed to practice at the range free of charge. They are lucky if they can hit the side of a barn.
    I suppose the reasoning for the one bullet was you would get the first perp and the others would take off running.
    Good thing you made it out alive.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    Police standards have definitely been lowered, just look at the amount of affirmative action hire, obese, out of shape cops you see walking/sitting around. It should be required that they are able to pass the obstacle course every year, or be docked pay until they can.
  48. @Female in FL
    The standards have been lowered for police officers, we don’t get the best for the job anymore.
    Same thing happened at my ex’s gun club. Cops are allowed to practice at the range free of charge. They are lucky if they can hit the side of a barn.
    I suppose the reasoning for the one bullet was you would get the first perp and the others would take off running.
    Good thing you made it out alive.

    Police standards have definitely been lowered, just look at the amount of affirmative action hire, obese, out of shape cops you see walking/sitting around. It should be required that they are able to pass the obstacle course every year, or be docked pay until they can.

    • Agree: Female in FL
    • Replies: @Loren
    the black female popo chief in santa monica got half million a year and 10 million retirement.

    santa monica now has white female police chief.
  49. Anon[567] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redneck farmer
    Well, I would have to agree with the ACLU about letting geezers out of prison. Thanks to the ACLU, if they get sick, we have to keep the POS alive.

    Here’s what happens to the handicapped old geezer prisoners. They get set up with Medicare and go right into nursing homes with the civilian patients and medics. My attorney does personal injury. He has several clients who were seriously injured and or raped by fellow patients who’d been moved directly from prison to the nursing homes. The nursing homes are liable.

    Have to remember, only the really dangerous murderers serial killers etc serve those decades long sentences.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Anon(567)--------I have seen it.Old,sick,wasted,one leg.,etc.etc.etc ,yet you dare not turn your back on old Uncle Nog. Dangerous until dead and buried.
  50. @Kim
    24 hour lockdown would be the rational response. But of course their true goal is to create chaos. And so far they are doing pretty well.

  51. @Anon
    Here’s what happens to the handicapped old geezer prisoners. They get set up with Medicare and go right into nursing homes with the civilian patients and medics. My attorney does personal injury. He has several clients who were seriously injured and or raped by fellow patients who’d been moved directly from prison to the nursing homes. The nursing homes are liable.

    Have to remember, only the really dangerous murderers serial killers etc serve those decades long sentences.

    Anon(567)——–I have seen it.Old,sick,wasted,one leg.,etc.etc.etc ,yet you dare not turn your back on old Uncle Nog. Dangerous until dead and buried.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    “Dangerous until death”

    I’m gonna use that....
  52. @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Anon(567)--------I have seen it.Old,sick,wasted,one leg.,etc.etc.etc ,yet you dare not turn your back on old Uncle Nog. Dangerous until dead and buried.

    “Dangerous until death”

    I’m gonna use that….

  53. anon[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna
    Release all criminals! Black ones anyway. What could possibly go wrong?

    We're already ceasing prosecutions of POCs for crime in general, so long as they don't leave a body in evidence. Just as in Philly, Baltimore, and California--and various other places--you may be certain that this is a prelude to making these temporary ‘relaxations’ of the rule of law permanent. It’s an incremental grab, just like all of the tricks Schumer and Pelosi are larding into the emergency measures in Congress. Never let a crisis go to waste, as they say.

    They’ll get their way, because feckless Republicans are too stupid, too distracted, or too co-opted to do anything about it. We’ll wake up with UBI, but only for POCs, no more arrests or prosecutions of POCs for anything (unless they attack Chosenites), Medicare for All (All the people they like) and of course Speech Codes for White People, in place of the U.S. Constitution.

    Uh huh.
    WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE do these ACLU morons and ultimately, Leftists, gain by releasing the ferals?
    You and others talk as if it’s Leftists’ intent to sic feral apes on innocent people. For no reason.
    No reason at all behind this.
    Couldn’t possibly be because a mass outbreak in prisons would be a financial catastrophe. Couldn’t possibly be that huh, intelligent Unz folks?
    Really folks?
    Oh yeah the Unz commentariat are so intelligent

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    Wow.

    That’s not even bordering stupid.

    You think they’re releasing a protected, quarantined population to keep them disease free?

    I can’t see you, but I’m saying you’re more stupid than you even look.
    , @Mr. Rational

    WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE do these ACLU morons and ultimately, Leftists, gain by releasing the ferals?
     
    They were for mass releases before the virus came along.  It's their general program of more crime and violence, specifically directed toward Whitey and which Whitey cannot defend against without being at risk of prosecution for a "hate crime" and likely ruination in any event.
  54. @anon
    Uh huh.
    WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE do these ACLU morons and ultimately, Leftists, gain by releasing the ferals?
    You and others talk as if it's Leftists' intent to sic feral apes on innocent people. For no reason.
    No reason at all behind this.
    Couldn't possibly be because a mass outbreak in prisons would be a financial catastrophe. Couldn't possibly be that huh, intelligent Unz folks?
    Really folks?
    Oh yeah the Unz commentariat are so intelligent

    Wow.

    That’s not even bordering stupid.

    You think they’re releasing a protected, quarantined population to keep them disease free?

    I can’t see you, but I’m saying you’re more stupid than you even look.

  55. @anon
    Uh huh.
    WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE do these ACLU morons and ultimately, Leftists, gain by releasing the ferals?
    You and others talk as if it's Leftists' intent to sic feral apes on innocent people. For no reason.
    No reason at all behind this.
    Couldn't possibly be because a mass outbreak in prisons would be a financial catastrophe. Couldn't possibly be that huh, intelligent Unz folks?
    Really folks?
    Oh yeah the Unz commentariat are so intelligent

    WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE do these ACLU morons and ultimately, Leftists, gain by releasing the ferals?

    They were for mass releases before the virus came along.  It’s their general program of more crime and violence, specifically directed toward Whitey and which Whitey cannot defend against without being at risk of prosecution for a “hate crime” and likely ruination in any event.

  56. @Mr McKenna
    Release all criminals! Black ones anyway. What could possibly go wrong?

    We're already ceasing prosecutions of POCs for crime in general, so long as they don't leave a body in evidence. Just as in Philly, Baltimore, and California--and various other places--you may be certain that this is a prelude to making these temporary ‘relaxations’ of the rule of law permanent. It’s an incremental grab, just like all of the tricks Schumer and Pelosi are larding into the emergency measures in Congress. Never let a crisis go to waste, as they say.

    They’ll get their way, because feckless Republicans are too stupid, too distracted, or too co-opted to do anything about it. We’ll wake up with UBI, but only for POCs, no more arrests or prosecutions of POCs for anything (unless they attack Chosenites), Medicare for All (All the people they like) and of course Speech Codes for White People, in place of the U.S. Constitution.

    Mr. McKenna——-I have a liberal,progressive,SJW blue state cousin who has Face Book shamed me for years for being a pro-Trump gun owner.His state is opening the jail house doors and opening the prison gates.Unable to purchase a gun,he now wants to borrow a couple of mine.Haha-Hoho-HHEEEEEhe. We hell freezes over.

  57. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-turkey-prisoners/turkeys-prisoner-release-should-not-exclude-political-detainees-rights-groups-idUKKBN21J666

    Turkey’s state is far from milk-and-water liberalism, but it is contemplating this. Arguably a lot of people in jail there should not be – people have been jailed for being unkind about Erdoğan on social media, which for me definitely has a free speech defence, in addition to being quite justified.

  58. @Sick 'n Tired
    Police standards have definitely been lowered, just look at the amount of affirmative action hire, obese, out of shape cops you see walking/sitting around. It should be required that they are able to pass the obstacle course every year, or be docked pay until they can.

    the black female popo chief in santa monica got half million a year and 10 million retirement.

    santa monica now has white female police chief.

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