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Never kneel.

Rise.

Get off your knees.

Never submit to the terror and emasculation of Black Lives Matter.

And if there is hope, it lies in the police unions of major U.S. cities. They will provide the pushback and the courage to turn the tide. [Chicago police union boss says he’ll boot cops who kneel with protestors, NY Post, June 11, 2020]:

The head of Chicago’s powerful police union said any cop in the city who takes a knee during George Floyd protests will be booted, according to a report.

John Catanzara, the new president of the Chicago Fraternal Order of Police, said the gesture, seen throughout the nation during protests over Floyd’s death in police custody in Minneapolis, is tantamount to betrayal of the uniform, he told Fox32 Chicago.

“I don’t believe it’s the time or place to be doing that,” Catanzara told the station. “If you kneel, you’ll be risking being brought up on charges and thrown out of the lodge.”

“Specifically this weekend,” he said. “This was about defunding and abolishing the police officers. And you’re going to take a knee for that? It’s ridiculous.”

Floyd’s May 25 death sparked worldwide calls for racial justice and denouncing police brutality, and has spawned a strong “defund the police” movement over two weeks of clashes between police and protestors.

Last week, one NYPD lieutenant issued an apology to the rank and file over his “horrible decision” to take a knee during the protests.

Asked about Catanzara’s comments, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said she wouldn’t “dignify” it with a response.

“I don’t really think that we should credit those kinds of really unfortunate comments, and I’m not going to dignify them with any further response,” she said.

Cops in the Second City who are kicked out of the union can still remain on the job, but will not be guaranteed the contractual benefits negotiated between the city and the fraternal order, Fox32 said.

Catanzara, who took heat in 2017 for posting a Facebook photo in uniform with a sign supporting President Donald Trump and gun rights, said cops now kneeling for protestors are doing the same thing — just on the other end of the political spectrum.

“Well that’s a political stance,” he told the station. “I want to see what happens on the department level. I’m going to guess nothing because the mayor supports this kind of stuff.”

Rise.

Never, ever submit.

 
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  1. Recall the “Be this guy”. One man is standing, arms folded, among a crowd in Hitler’s Germany; all others offering the Roman salute.

    I challenge America’s police officers to “Be this guy” and stand rather than kneel, even if you are the only one standing.

    • Agree: Tsar Nicholas
  2. If anyone remembers what happened to Serpico, he can fill in the dots here. Only a clouted fool will do anything but turn in his/her/its badge after kneeling.

    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
    @Anon

    Try that again, without mixed metaphors and a total re-do on that extra-messed up second sentence.
    G' head, try.

  3. In Germany, the police Union chief is about the only one that can speak taboo #TrueSpeech. Politicians and police chiefs can silence police, but cannot order the police Unions to keep quiet about issues regarding job security, such as attacks by “minorities”. “Minorities” whose mischiefs are otherwise protected and covered by the ever valid #PCGagOrder: never speak negatively about minorities to avoid ‘prejudice’ (prejudice which is usually correct #AccuratePrejudice)

    The Left created, unintentionally, a loop hole in the speech restriction. Union leaders still enjoy free speech and #TrueSpeech.

    • Agree: Vox Nihili
  4. Praise God, Out of the ashes a sane voice is lifted clear, strong and unapologetic. Get the fuck up off your knees White Men of America ! 80 IQ Savages do not (((Dictate))) our futures. Fuck them, and their handlers.

  5. Cops in the Second City

    Soon to be Fourth.

  6. Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    • Troll: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Hood Oracle
    @J Adelmen

    May you get an EZ Bake oven for Father's day.

    Replies: @WV Guerrilla

    , @Gunga Din
    @J Adelmen

    So, you're a jew. Who would have ever guessed?

    , @Alex from NE
    @J Adelmen

    You had to do the whole "my fellow White people" bit? Lol!

    , @usNthem
    @J Adelmen

    Of course you mean a statistically significant surge in reported hate hoaxes, don’t you, sack?

    , @WSG
    @J Adelmen

    "Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end."

    I guess that Joe Biden isn't the only one who is demented. Are you leading the Martian fight against the Andromedans??!!

    , @Malla
    @J Adelmen


    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew
     

    we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
     
    Does she know what the caste system looks like?

    Replies: @Loren, @AnalogMan

    , @Lunarcricket
    @J Adelmen

    Don't most of your tribe fund and make those horror movies?
    Spadelman.

    , @suicidal_canadian
    @J Adelmen

    "My fellow bigoted white people"... You didn't even have to announce that you were a Jew. We all know how you guys operate by now.

    , @Adam Smith
    @J Adelmen


    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.
     
    If you identified as White wouldn't your sentence read:

    "So, my fellow Bigoted White people , our time is about to end." ?

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice... who keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time.
     
    It's amazing how bulletproof, stab-proof and explosion-proof White people are.
    Yet an other example of White privilege.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew... So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.
     
    I hope you are one day liberated from the suffering and oppression you endure as a person without privilege. Until that day I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

    , @Bill Jones
    @J Adelmen

    Does your hate crime number include the 2,000 plus from that Yid in Israel?

    Replies: @D-FENS

    , @Pop Warner
    @J Adelmen


    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew 
     
    I can't think of two peoples who are greater racial supremacists. Perhaps the Chinese
    , @Akindle
    @J Adelmen

    Hello? Trump is not alt right, nor even pro white. He cannot even say the word white or Caucasian at one of his rallies. You know, most of the people standing behind him. "Black employment", "Hispanic employment" ad nauseum. He panders to blacks and hispanics. He still thinks with his First step act which let black felons out of jail early, a stimulus bill geared to only them, plus all the diamond and silk rap crap...He still thinks blacks will vote for him LOL!

  7. It is great to see that this demographic(White males) is the fastest shrinking demographic in the world.

    As far as Police are concerned, The police are attacking peaceful protesters all over the country. Time to come for their jobs, pensions, budgets, and their entire cop culture. Let the GOOD “apples” make themselves known, and let them break entirely with the blue brother/sisterhood…or they go down too.

    These people should all be fired…every one of them. They can’t be trusted to do their jobs if they applaud brutality & indifference to a man bleeding on the ground. End their careers. No gun. No badge. No paycheck…let them join the unemployment rolls immediately.

    • Troll: AR in Illinois
    • Replies: @Hood Oracle
    @Saira Rao

    So says the street shitter....STFU

    Replies: @SCuba Steve

    , @Lunarcricket
    @Saira Rao

    Yep. And with that shrinking demographic, you can expect another shortage. A shortage of handouts to the growing demographic.

    You can all eat each other alive as far as I'm concerned

    Replies: @WV Guerrilla, @Augustus

    , @WSG
    @Saira Rao

    First the "Oy Vey" king...now the street shitter. This site is a bit too infested for my liking. Where is that flamethrower when I need it?

    Replies: @europeasant

  8. Peak Negro Fatigue is close. I have had two liberal co-workers tell me privately that they are buying firearms. Something both of them said they thought they would never do.

    • Agree: kikz
    • Thanks: Lancelot_Link
    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    @Lunarcricket

    Lunacricket-------------Your 2 liberal co-workers either live in some type of Whitopia "bubble" ,or they are a little S--L--O--W.

    , @AR in Illinois
    @Lunarcricket

    Yeah, I am known for having many guns and ammo. Funny how people are coming out of the woodwork looking for both now. While I feel (slightly) for them, I have to look out for me and mine so I tell them I barely have enough for myself. I didn't sign up to be everyone else's supplier.

  9. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Police are one of the few organized groups standing against this Floyd mania. They know the real nature of that criminally insane dead convict and had to deal with the rampaging looters. They are still tethered to reality. There’ll be attempts to break them apart. Black mayor, black AG, black police chief, leftie type Dem governor, the police in Chicago have much arrayed against them and that’s not counting the criminal black looting population. There’s some idea floating among the Floyd crowd to ‘license’ police which seems like one way to get at them.

  10. Kind of ironic that the one pushing back on the Dems is a union. But in this upside down world I guess it kind of makes sense. I’m still trying to figure out if the “off the charts” White-guilt is real, or are people simply virtue-signaling in public and seething on the inside?

    • Replies: @D-FENS
    @Rooster3

    “ I’m still trying to figure out if the “off the charts” White-guilt is real, or are people simply virtue-signaling in public and seething on the inside?”

    I think the latter. I think many white people feel so unmoored and atomized that they want to be part of something. Until they start adopting released felons to live with them, it’s all show.

    Let the Left shit in their own bed (the urban areas). Already, there is a rush to leave SanFrancisco by those who can. Fortunately, they are staying in California.

    The only thing that holds this shit show together is the US Dollar.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey

  11. https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/starbucks-policy-against-black-lives-matter-apparel-sparks-backlash

    Ha ha! After the racetogether# thing they pulled in 2014 and going full bore with blm, the chickens have come home to roost. Maybe now they can put “theydon’tmakegoodpets#’ on their coffee cups this time.

    Good stuff…..

  12. While it’s good to have police that don’t suffer from acute negrophilia, some were arresting people for trying to run their businesses or visiting the beach during coronahoax.

    If shitlibs went the other way and promised MORE money for police, do you think they’d remain loyal to “the people?”

    Look in the mirror. YOU are America’s last, best hope.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  13. Abolish all police unions.

    Public servants must kneel before the public.

    • Replies: @SCuba Steve
    @Patriot1776

    I expect you do an equal amount of kneeling and bending over. 😁

    Replies: @europeasant

  14. This whole notion of blaming blacks for the problems in this country is just a fruitless exercise in whining. We have known for over two centuries what they are like. What we need are strong leaders who will take the fight to the progressive liberals with the sole mission of finally spitting the nation into two countries, a task we were unable to accomplish in the 1860’s. Hell, the secession pattern is already in place with red states flowing from the southeast into the heartland. The BLM cultural revolution has already begun but as usual, the great silent majority is just sleeping at the wheel hoping things will get back to normal. Secession is the only answer and the initiative must begin now before the progressives turn this country into another China shitcan. Pray for a strong leader to rise from the conservative ranks and I’m not talking about Trump. May never happen, but nothing wrong with dreaming.

  15. I voted for John Catanzara because he’s a strong supporter of the 2A and doesn’t act like he would back down. He’s become a real thorn in the side of the Democrats and BLM so they will make every effort to destroy him. And the Chicago FOP is hardly a “powerful police union”. In fact, its one of the weakest unions in the whole state and pales in comparison to the almighty communist Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU).

    Seeing police officers kneel before our new black overlords and abandon police stations is downright disgusting. I can say the scene here in Chicago has gone from surreal to downright evil…but there is hope.

    I’m going to go dark for a while. The BLM/ANTIFA Insurgency of 2020 is targeting Chicago police officers and trying to muzzle us. An order came out that a special unit of the Inspector General was investigating the posts and social media of officers. Our cellphone and online records are to be confiscated and examined (never mind the violent social media posts by BLM/ANTIFA). Did some officer record something potentially explosive? Was the Radical Left’s playbook or timeline exposed? Doesn’t matter. I figure I need the time to recuperate and get my preps and finances in order for “American Bugaloo Part II” coming sometime before November. (I’m sure you all do too.) I’ll still be reading this site almost daily. The positive fighting spirit will do me good. Stay safe, stay armed, stay alert and stay alive.

    • Agree: AR in Illinois
    • Replies: @Female in FL
    @Blue Juice

    Good luck to you, I read about what you are describing at SCC.

    , @SCuba Steve
    @Blue Juice

    Take care, amigo. Stay safe.

    , @WSG
    @Blue Juice

    Your personal insight and anecdotes have always been appreciated. Be safe.

    , @Rooster3
    @Blue Juice

    I’ve always found your posts very insightful and accurate. No one knows the true depths of the black plague better than an inner city cop. Can’t wait to hear from you again.

    , @Jim in Jersey
    @Blue Juice

    Stay safe and never hand in your phone. Couldn’t believe your union would allow it to happen. Even if weak, forcible confiscation couldn’t help but raise hackles of any union leader.

    I can’t imagine what Chicago will be like after the summer. I couldn’t imagine being charged with trying to police those people.

    So as I said, stay safe BlueJuice. Chicago could’ve used a whole lot more of guys like you.

    , @Augustus
    @Blue Juice

    Blue,

    Do whatever you must do to protect your anonymity. I'm sure the mayor and other government entities will be offering a bounty on police officers IPO addresses. The left never stops targeting those who might disagree with them.

    I just sent more money to the SAF and the NRA, as they look ready to go head to head in court again with the state of Illinois. This time over reciprocity for Indiana and Wisconsin citizens. It may be another fight that reaches the Supreme Court. Hopefully Trump wins in November and can nominate another Justice.

    Anyway, take care, and protect yourself.

  16. Why hasn’t Trump fired all the lickspittle FBI who kneeled for BLM?

    • Replies: @Lowe
    @Realist

    Because he's a boomer cuck.

    Replies: @Realist

    , @WV Guerrilla
    @Realist

    His daughter married into the tribe of travelling merchants! Her husband dictates to daddy Trump what he will and will not do.

    Replies: @Realist

  17. All police unions should be eliminated as organs of extortion and coercion.

    Street cops should be almost entirely eliminated leaving detectives, forensic investigators, and such to continue being the ‘police force’.

    The average person should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment. The average person should be able to function as a police officer for himself, family and property. The average person should be able to arm up without any permission slip from corrupt gov’t, and take care of any criminal that he may encounter with deadly force if necessary without fear of the ‘law’ coming down on him for defensive actions.

    We need a police force of the citizenry, not of professional street cop thugs that are forever in the news for abusing the citizenry.

    • Replies: @Enrique Suave
    @RoatanBill

    Sounds good, but won't work.

    You won't be able to shoot thugs stealing your car. Or breaking into your garage. Or punching you in the face.

    They will come at you with "excessive force" charges and you will go to jail. And what about people who can't defend themselves? You going to sit at your kid's school all day so a mob of "teens" don't beat his ass and take his lunch money?

    The other white kids aren't going to join ranks, form gangs and fight the threat. They'll be too busy with sports hero worship to interfere.

    The city of Seattle schools just kicked the cops out. Wait for the carnage when the schools reopen; IF they reopen.

    Replies: @BanditOfBlithe, @RoatanBill

    , @bruce county
    @RoatanBill

    "The average person should be able to arm up without any permission slip from corrupt gov’t, and take care of any criminal that he may encounter with deadly force if necessary without fear of the ‘law’ coming down on him for defensive actions".

    Ummmm. No dickhead. The average person needs to know when the jig is up and its time to bug out. The show has begun!!! Find a nice area miles away in the bush near water. Set up camp and secure the perimeters. If the orcs and the zombies come for you there then its over and there wont be any police, courts or trials. The only thing you will need to worry about is where to place your shots and where to bury the bodies. The battle of Planet Orc is a very real thing now. They hate us and they don't care about any law!! They never have and never will.

    , @Grand Inquisitor
    @RoatanBill

    Who is “the average person” who “should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment”? Have you seen some of your fellow “citizens” of late? A 300 lbs, pink-haired, man-hating feminista, a confused sodomite, a 75 IQ, dreadlocked chimp with a proclivity for random acts of violence, men who would take a knee to some of the worst society has to offer—these are your fellow citizens. Free and brave, indeed.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    , @Augustus
    @RoatanBill

    You can be against the police unions, and I might agree. But I am NOT against the police. The vast majority try to peform a necessary job, and do so honorably. Don't let a few bad apples spoil your thoughts about all police.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  18. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    May you get an EZ Bake oven for Father’s day.

    • LOL: Gunga Din
    • Replies: @WV Guerrilla
    @Hood Oracle

    An even better gift, for us non-race traitor fathers, is that this travelling merchant is not fertile!

  19. @Saira Rao
    It is great to see that this demographic(White males) is the fastest shrinking demographic in the world.

    As far as Police are concerned, The police are attacking peaceful protesters all over the country. Time to come for their jobs, pensions, budgets, and their entire cop culture. Let the GOOD “apples” make themselves known, and let them break entirely with the blue brother/sisterhood…or they go down too.

    These people should all be fired…every one of them. They can’t be trusted to do their jobs if they applaud brutality & indifference to a man bleeding on the ground. End their careers. No gun. No badge. No paycheck…let them join the unemployment rolls immediately.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Lunarcricket, @WSG

    So says the street shitter….STFU

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
    • Replies: @SCuba Steve
    @Hood Oracle

    Catch “Shylock and the Street Shitter“ this fall on the CW!

    Replies: @Lunarcricket

  20. @Blue Juice
    I voted for John Catanzara because he’s a strong supporter of the 2A and doesn’t act like he would back down. He’s become a real thorn in the side of the Democrats and BLM so they will make every effort to destroy him. And the Chicago FOP is hardly a “powerful police union”. In fact, its one of the weakest unions in the whole state and pales in comparison to the almighty communist Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU).

    Seeing police officers kneel before our new black overlords and abandon police stations is downright disgusting. I can say the scene here in Chicago has gone from surreal to downright evil...but there is hope.

    I’m going to go dark for a while. The BLM/ANTIFA Insurgency of 2020 is targeting Chicago police officers and trying to muzzle us. An order came out that a special unit of the Inspector General was investigating the posts and social media of officers. Our cellphone and online records are to be confiscated and examined (never mind the violent social media posts by BLM/ANTIFA). Did some officer record something potentially explosive? Was the Radical Left's playbook or timeline exposed? Doesn’t matter. I figure I need the time to recuperate and get my preps and finances in order for “American Bugaloo Part II” coming sometime before November. (I’m sure you all do too.) I’ll still be reading this site almost daily. The positive fighting spirit will do me good. Stay safe, stay armed, stay alert and stay alive.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @SCuba Steve, @WSG, @Rooster3, @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus

    Good luck to you, I read about what you are describing at SCC.

  21. @Patriot1776
    Abolish all police unions.

    Public servants must kneel before the public.

    Replies: @SCuba Steve

    I expect you do an equal amount of kneeling and bending over. 😁

    • Troll: Chris Mallory
    • Replies: @europeasant
    @SCuba Steve

    You forgot to include "ass kissing".

  22. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    So, you’re a jew. Who would have ever guessed?

  23. @Blue Juice
    I voted for John Catanzara because he’s a strong supporter of the 2A and doesn’t act like he would back down. He’s become a real thorn in the side of the Democrats and BLM so they will make every effort to destroy him. And the Chicago FOP is hardly a “powerful police union”. In fact, its one of the weakest unions in the whole state and pales in comparison to the almighty communist Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU).

    Seeing police officers kneel before our new black overlords and abandon police stations is downright disgusting. I can say the scene here in Chicago has gone from surreal to downright evil...but there is hope.

    I’m going to go dark for a while. The BLM/ANTIFA Insurgency of 2020 is targeting Chicago police officers and trying to muzzle us. An order came out that a special unit of the Inspector General was investigating the posts and social media of officers. Our cellphone and online records are to be confiscated and examined (never mind the violent social media posts by BLM/ANTIFA). Did some officer record something potentially explosive? Was the Radical Left's playbook or timeline exposed? Doesn’t matter. I figure I need the time to recuperate and get my preps and finances in order for “American Bugaloo Part II” coming sometime before November. (I’m sure you all do too.) I’ll still be reading this site almost daily. The positive fighting spirit will do me good. Stay safe, stay armed, stay alert and stay alive.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @SCuba Steve, @WSG, @Rooster3, @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus

    Take care, amigo. Stay safe.

  24. @Hood Oracle
    @Saira Rao

    So says the street shitter....STFU

    Replies: @SCuba Steve

    Catch “Shylock and the Street Shitter“ this fall on the CW!

    • Replies: @Lunarcricket
    @SCuba Steve

    Beyond funny. I would have chosen that as my handle had I seen it before now

  25. In 66 days the Democratic National Convention will begin. Stock up on popcorn. This is going to be the greatest gathering of lunatics in the history of the planet. The terror and emasculation will be on display for all to witness. With so many kneeling participates it will less resemble a political convention than a revival of the African Methodist Episcopal Church.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Feedsackroad


    In 66 days the Democratic National Convention will begin. Stock up on popcorn. This is going to be the greatest gathering of lunatics in the history of the planet.
     
    Have they decided on a live convention? Last I read they were leaning towards an online meeting.

    Replies: @Feedsackroad

  26. @Saira Rao
    It is great to see that this demographic(White males) is the fastest shrinking demographic in the world.

    As far as Police are concerned, The police are attacking peaceful protesters all over the country. Time to come for their jobs, pensions, budgets, and their entire cop culture. Let the GOOD “apples” make themselves known, and let them break entirely with the blue brother/sisterhood…or they go down too.

    These people should all be fired…every one of them. They can’t be trusted to do their jobs if they applaud brutality & indifference to a man bleeding on the ground. End their careers. No gun. No badge. No paycheck…let them join the unemployment rolls immediately.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Lunarcricket, @WSG

    Yep. And with that shrinking demographic, you can expect another shortage. A shortage of handouts to the growing demographic.

    You can all eat each other alive as far as I’m concerned

    • Replies: @WV Guerrilla
    @Lunarcricket

    that's absolutely right! it seems the only part of the equation they REFUSE to understand is all their gimmes' are are only available because of those that work(e.g. white working class folks). with the shrinking of that demographic comes the stoppage of welfare. Dummies!

    , @Augustus
    @Lunarcricket

    Government will create new money with which to pay the welfare bribes, and the working class will be stuck with the inflation that acts as a tax on all except those who get first use of the money. That's not those on welfare, as they only get 30 cents of every welfare dollar earmarked for the programs. It's the government workers who get the 70 cents per dollar for administering the programs.

    In that way working people increasingly pay more and more to take care of the government workers, not the welfare recipients. At this time, our enemies are not the rich, or the poor, but the government rich. Of course, people like Gates, Besos, and many others are like government workers, as government affords them great advantages for their "campaign contributions."

  27. Please. This is a joke, correct? The police unions should not even exist. No government employee should be allowed to collectively bargain. The FOP is a big part of the problem we have with the unaccountable badge-heavy thugs today.

    Cops murder the Tuttles, the FOP comes out defending the murderers and promising retribution against citizens who dare film or criticize the badge thugs.
    Cops murder Daniel Shaver, the FOP defends them.
    Cops declare war upon the American people decades ago and spent their time harassing citizens for any and all minor violations. The FOP is right there cheering them on and whining for more money.

    Kersey have you ever seen a government boot you wouldn’t lick?

    • Troll: SCuba Steve
    • Replies: @Patriot1776
    @Chris Mallory

    No he hasn't. He also advocates that black people be stripped of gun ownership.

  28. @Feedsackroad
    In 66 days the Democratic National Convention will begin. Stock up on popcorn. This is going to be the greatest gathering of lunatics in the history of the planet. The terror and emasculation will be on display for all to witness. With so many kneeling participates it will less resemble a political convention than a revival of the African Methodist Episcopal Church.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    In 66 days the Democratic National Convention will begin. Stock up on popcorn. This is going to be the greatest gathering of lunatics in the history of the planet.

    Have they decided on a live convention? Last I read they were leaning towards an online meeting.

    • Replies: @Feedsackroad
    @Chris Mallory


    Have they decided on a live convention?
     
    'In August, delegates from across the nation will travel to Milwaukee and formally nominate the next president and vice president of the United States at the Democratic National Convention.'

    https://www.demconvention.com/plans-and-details/resources-for-delegates/

    Plans and Details

    'Find the information and updates you need to get ready for the 2020 Democratic National Convention, happening in Milwaukee the week of August 17.'

    https://www.demconvention.com/plans-and-details/

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

  29. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    You had to do the whole “my fellow White people” bit? Lol!

  30. rao & adelmen: tell someone who gives a s**t

    • Agree: Lunarcricket
  31. FOP cops doesn’t exactly sound too intimidating.

  32. @Chris Mallory
    @Feedsackroad


    In 66 days the Democratic National Convention will begin. Stock up on popcorn. This is going to be the greatest gathering of lunatics in the history of the planet.
     
    Have they decided on a live convention? Last I read they were leaning towards an online meeting.

    Replies: @Feedsackroad

    Have they decided on a live convention?

    ‘In August, delegates from across the nation will travel to Milwaukee and formally nominate the next president and vice president of the United States at the Democratic National Convention.’

    https://www.demconvention.com/plans-and-details/resources-for-delegates/

    Plans and Details

    ‘Find the information and updates you need to get ready for the 2020 Democratic National Convention, happening in Milwaukee the week of August 17.’

    https://www.demconvention.com/plans-and-details/

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Feedsackroad

    Admittedly, this is a month old but:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/politics/dnc-milwaukee-convention/index.html


    The Democratic National Committee rules committee voted Tuesday to allow convention planners to seek alternate voting methods ahead of the August convention, which could include virtual voting.
     
    Sounds like the Republicans have decided on two convention sites, one for stuffy business and one for speeches and party.

    Instead, around 336 delegates will conduct the convention’s official business Monday, Aug. 24. Then they’ll head to Jacksonville — and join more than 2,000 other delegates for three days of speeches and celebrations, a top GOP official said Thursday
     
    .

    Replies: @Feedsackroad

  33. @Lunarcricket
    @Saira Rao

    Yep. And with that shrinking demographic, you can expect another shortage. A shortage of handouts to the growing demographic.

    You can all eat each other alive as far as I'm concerned

    Replies: @WV Guerrilla, @Augustus

    that’s absolutely right! it seems the only part of the equation they REFUSE to understand is all their gimmes’ are are only available because of those that work(e.g. white working class folks). with the shrinking of that demographic comes the stoppage of welfare. Dummies!

  34. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    Of course you mean a statistically significant surge in reported hate hoaxes, don’t you, sack?

  35. Off topic crime statistics for Indianapolis.

    76.47% of homicide victims in Indianapolis were black (2019).
    The population is only 28 percent black.

    Here’s the source from indystar.com ▼

    https://databases.usatodaynetwork.com/indystar/indianapolis-crime-homicide-list-2019

    • Replies: @europeasant
    @Kenn Gividen

    "The population is only 28 percent black"

    According to the crime stats I'm thinking that itz 75% black.

    , @Loren
    @Kenn Gividen

    stats for blacks..the stats we should know.

  36. It’s about time oath keepers took a nationwide position on this kneeling nonsense.

    Genuflecting, prostrating, bowing, kow-towing and other forms of submissive animal posturing are not part of our heritage or traditions in uniform.

    When appropriate we salute, present arms, or shake hands eye to eye.

    This fad should go the way of the 1990’s ‘I love you, man’ hug. It is ridiculous.

  37. @Realist
    Why hasn't Trump fired all the lickspittle FBI who kneeled for BLM?

    Replies: @Lowe, @WV Guerrilla

    Because he’s a boomer cuck.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Lowe


    Because he’s a boomer cuck.
     
    And a Deep State minion.
  38. @Chris Mallory
    Please. This is a joke, correct? The police unions should not even exist. No government employee should be allowed to collectively bargain. The FOP is a big part of the problem we have with the unaccountable badge-heavy thugs today.

    Cops murder the Tuttles, the FOP comes out defending the murderers and promising retribution against citizens who dare film or criticize the badge thugs.
    Cops murder Daniel Shaver, the FOP defends them.
    Cops declare war upon the American people decades ago and spent their time harassing citizens for any and all minor violations. The FOP is right there cheering them on and whining for more money.

    Kersey have you ever seen a government boot you wouldn't lick?

    Replies: @Patriot1776

    No he hasn’t. He also advocates that black people be stripped of gun ownership.

  39. @SCuba Steve
    @Hood Oracle

    Catch “Shylock and the Street Shitter“ this fall on the CW!

    Replies: @Lunarcricket

    Beyond funny. I would have chosen that as my handle had I seen it before now

  40. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.”

    I guess that Joe Biden isn’t the only one who is demented. Are you leading the Martian fight against the Andromedans??!!

  41. @Lunarcricket
    Peak Negro Fatigue is close. I have had two liberal co-workers tell me privately that they are buying firearms. Something both of them said they thought they would never do.

    Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke, @AR in Illinois

    Lunacricket————-Your 2 liberal co-workers either live in some type of Whitopia “bubble” ,or they are a little S–L–O–W.

  42. @Saira Rao
    It is great to see that this demographic(White males) is the fastest shrinking demographic in the world.

    As far as Police are concerned, The police are attacking peaceful protesters all over the country. Time to come for their jobs, pensions, budgets, and their entire cop culture. Let the GOOD “apples” make themselves known, and let them break entirely with the blue brother/sisterhood…or they go down too.

    These people should all be fired…every one of them. They can’t be trusted to do their jobs if they applaud brutality & indifference to a man bleeding on the ground. End their careers. No gun. No badge. No paycheck…let them join the unemployment rolls immediately.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Lunarcricket, @WSG

    First the “Oy Vey” king…now the street shitter. This site is a bit too infested for my liking. Where is that flamethrower when I need it?

    • Replies: @europeasant
    @WSG

    "First the “Oy Vey” king…now the street shitter. This site is a bit too infested for my liking. Where is that flamethrower when I need it?"

    A lot of old timers are gone but some are still around and it looks like new people are showing up.

  43. @Blue Juice
    I voted for John Catanzara because he’s a strong supporter of the 2A and doesn’t act like he would back down. He’s become a real thorn in the side of the Democrats and BLM so they will make every effort to destroy him. And the Chicago FOP is hardly a “powerful police union”. In fact, its one of the weakest unions in the whole state and pales in comparison to the almighty communist Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU).

    Seeing police officers kneel before our new black overlords and abandon police stations is downright disgusting. I can say the scene here in Chicago has gone from surreal to downright evil...but there is hope.

    I’m going to go dark for a while. The BLM/ANTIFA Insurgency of 2020 is targeting Chicago police officers and trying to muzzle us. An order came out that a special unit of the Inspector General was investigating the posts and social media of officers. Our cellphone and online records are to be confiscated and examined (never mind the violent social media posts by BLM/ANTIFA). Did some officer record something potentially explosive? Was the Radical Left's playbook or timeline exposed? Doesn’t matter. I figure I need the time to recuperate and get my preps and finances in order for “American Bugaloo Part II” coming sometime before November. (I’m sure you all do too.) I’ll still be reading this site almost daily. The positive fighting spirit will do me good. Stay safe, stay armed, stay alert and stay alive.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @SCuba Steve, @WSG, @Rooster3, @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus

    Your personal insight and anecdotes have always been appreciated. Be safe.

  44. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew

    we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.

    Does she know what the caste system looks like?

    • Replies: @Loren
    @Malla

    caste = racism.

    DNA tests show who the dreadful Gypsies are---Indian Harijans--untouchables.

    , @AnalogMan
    @Malla

    Of course. Note that he takes care to specify that she is a Brahmin - the highest (most nearly white) caste. Why do you suppose that might matter to him?

    Replies: @Malla

  45. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    Don’t most of your tribe fund and make those horror movies?
    Spadelman.

  46. @RoatanBill
    All police unions should be eliminated as organs of extortion and coercion.

    Street cops should be almost entirely eliminated leaving detectives, forensic investigators, and such to continue being the 'police force'.

    The average person should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment. The average person should be able to function as a police officer for himself, family and property. The average person should be able to arm up without any permission slip from corrupt gov't, and take care of any criminal that he may encounter with deadly force if necessary without fear of the 'law' coming down on him for defensive actions.

    We need a police force of the citizenry, not of professional street cop thugs that are forever in the news for abusing the citizenry.

    Replies: @Enrique Suave, @bruce county, @Grand Inquisitor, @Augustus

    Sounds good, but won’t work.

    You won’t be able to shoot thugs stealing your car. Or breaking into your garage. Or punching you in the face.

    They will come at you with “excessive force” charges and you will go to jail. And what about people who can’t defend themselves? You going to sit at your kid’s school all day so a mob of “teens” don’t beat his ass and take his lunch money?

    The other white kids aren’t going to join ranks, form gangs and fight the threat. They’ll be too busy with sports hero worship to interfere.

    The city of Seattle schools just kicked the cops out. Wait for the carnage when the schools reopen; IF they reopen.

    • Replies: @BanditOfBlithe
    @Enrique Suave

    I hope everyone here keeps up a litany of posts regarding the current status of Seattle. Looks like some dope smokers taking over for good.

    , @RoatanBill
    @Enrique Suave

    You'll please note that I took your objection into consideration in my comment.

    It is the current 'law' environment that prevents people from protecting themselves, as you say. That needs to change. The 'law' is responsible for almost all the recidivist crime because it prevents victims from protecting themselves which in many cases would kill the criminal during the commission of a crime and hence would make repeat offense impossible for that individual.

    Gov'ts make laws to purposely create victims so they can then be viewed as their saviors by creating the useless street cop position. It's too bad that that system doesn't actually work. When you need a cop there's usually none around, so the criminals are encouraged to commit crimes because they know there's usually no cop around AND they also know the law prevents their victim from trying any preventative measures. It is the 'law' that is the ultimate problem.

    I strongly support getting rid of the useless street cops while retaining investigators and changing laws and attitudes to allow the average citizen to use whatever force he deems necessary when confronting the criminal element. Shopkeepers, for instance, should be allowed to shotgun any individual that throws the first brick through their window to send a clear message to others considering such action that there will be consequences. People are not an endangered species so there's little point in trying to retain the human trash in the society.

    Replies: @anarchyst

  47. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    “My fellow bigoted white people”… You didn’t even have to announce that you were a Jew. We all know how you guys operate by now.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  48. @Hood Oracle
    @J Adelmen

    May you get an EZ Bake oven for Father's day.

    Replies: @WV Guerrilla

    An even better gift, for us non-race traitor fathers, is that this travelling merchant is not fertile!

  49. These people who hate the police….a lot of white sissies with a family and lots of possessions….when you get a hardened criminal(s) shoving a gun in your face and taking whatever they want will you then be wishing a squad of cops was there to help you?
    I’m glad I have cops around me. Of course I obey laws and act in a civilized manner. They never contact me for ANYTHING. I think they appreciate just a few pleasant people like me throughout the day.
    Chaos abounds everywhere right now it seems unfortunately.

  50. @Enrique Suave
    @RoatanBill

    Sounds good, but won't work.

    You won't be able to shoot thugs stealing your car. Or breaking into your garage. Or punching you in the face.

    They will come at you with "excessive force" charges and you will go to jail. And what about people who can't defend themselves? You going to sit at your kid's school all day so a mob of "teens" don't beat his ass and take his lunch money?

    The other white kids aren't going to join ranks, form gangs and fight the threat. They'll be too busy with sports hero worship to interfere.

    The city of Seattle schools just kicked the cops out. Wait for the carnage when the schools reopen; IF they reopen.

    Replies: @BanditOfBlithe, @RoatanBill

    I hope everyone here keeps up a litany of posts regarding the current status of Seattle. Looks like some dope smokers taking over for good.

  51. @Enrique Suave
    @RoatanBill

    Sounds good, but won't work.

    You won't be able to shoot thugs stealing your car. Or breaking into your garage. Or punching you in the face.

    They will come at you with "excessive force" charges and you will go to jail. And what about people who can't defend themselves? You going to sit at your kid's school all day so a mob of "teens" don't beat his ass and take his lunch money?

    The other white kids aren't going to join ranks, form gangs and fight the threat. They'll be too busy with sports hero worship to interfere.

    The city of Seattle schools just kicked the cops out. Wait for the carnage when the schools reopen; IF they reopen.

    Replies: @BanditOfBlithe, @RoatanBill

    You’ll please note that I took your objection into consideration in my comment.

    It is the current ‘law’ environment that prevents people from protecting themselves, as you say. That needs to change. The ‘law’ is responsible for almost all the recidivist crime because it prevents victims from protecting themselves which in many cases would kill the criminal during the commission of a crime and hence would make repeat offense impossible for that individual.

    Gov’ts make laws to purposely create victims so they can then be viewed as their saviors by creating the useless street cop position. It’s too bad that that system doesn’t actually work. When you need a cop there’s usually none around, so the criminals are encouraged to commit crimes because they know there’s usually no cop around AND they also know the law prevents their victim from trying any preventative measures. It is the ‘law’ that is the ultimate problem.

    I strongly support getting rid of the useless street cops while retaining investigators and changing laws and attitudes to allow the average citizen to use whatever force he deems necessary when confronting the criminal element. Shopkeepers, for instance, should be allowed to shotgun any individual that throws the first brick through their window to send a clear message to others considering such action that there will be consequences. People are not an endangered species so there’s little point in trying to retain the human trash in the society.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @RoatanBill

    YOU ARE YOUR OWN FIRST RESPONDER (caps for emphasis).

    Police and other government types are second responders and are only there to pick up the pieces and pass judgement on first responders, quite often in error, especially if the first responder is a law-abiding citizen.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  52. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    If you identified as White wouldn’t your sentence read:

    “So, my fellow Bigoted White people , our time is about to end.” ?

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice… who keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time.

    It’s amazing how bulletproof, stab-proof and explosion-proof White people are.
    Yet an other example of White privilege.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew… So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    I hope you are one day liberated from the suffering and oppression you endure as a person without privilege. Until that day I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

  53. Off topic, remember the negro Andrew Gillum who narrowly lost to DeSantis?
    Here is the latest on his PAC that was signing up new voters.
    The all-but-defunct Forward Florida spent $373,874 in May on legal and other bills, financial disclosure reports show, leaving about $1.3 million out of the original $38.9 million raised since it opened in March 2016.

    It’s the second month in a row the political committee has received no donations.
    John Morgan, of Morgan and Morgan wanted his money back, lol. Andy is too much of a crook for Morgan!

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    @Female in FL

    The same Andrew Gillum who was found in a Miami Beach hotel room naked, wasted to the point of incoherence, covered in vomit, with 2 gay men, one who was a known male prostitute, baggies of meth, and pills scattered all over the floor, who is now a commentator for CNN, that Andrew Gillum?

    http://weartv.com/news/local/police-release-photos-from-night-andrew-gillum-found-in-florida-hotel-room

    Replies: @Female in FL

  54. @Realist
    Why hasn't Trump fired all the lickspittle FBI who kneeled for BLM?

    Replies: @Lowe, @WV Guerrilla

    His daughter married into the tribe of travelling merchants! Her husband dictates to daddy Trump what he will and will not do.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @WV Guerrilla

    Yes, Trump is useless.

  55. @RoatanBill
    All police unions should be eliminated as organs of extortion and coercion.

    Street cops should be almost entirely eliminated leaving detectives, forensic investigators, and such to continue being the 'police force'.

    The average person should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment. The average person should be able to function as a police officer for himself, family and property. The average person should be able to arm up without any permission slip from corrupt gov't, and take care of any criminal that he may encounter with deadly force if necessary without fear of the 'law' coming down on him for defensive actions.

    We need a police force of the citizenry, not of professional street cop thugs that are forever in the news for abusing the citizenry.

    Replies: @Enrique Suave, @bruce county, @Grand Inquisitor, @Augustus

    “The average person should be able to arm up without any permission slip from corrupt gov’t, and take care of any criminal that he may encounter with deadly force if necessary without fear of the ‘law’ coming down on him for defensive actions”.

    Ummmm. No dickhead. The average person needs to know when the jig is up and its time to bug out. The show has begun!!! Find a nice area miles away in the bush near water. Set up camp and secure the perimeters. If the orcs and the zombies come for you there then its over and there wont be any police, courts or trials. The only thing you will need to worry about is where to place your shots and where to bury the bodies. The battle of Planet Orc is a very real thing now. They hate us and they don’t care about any law!! They never have and never will.

  56. @SCuba Steve
    @Patriot1776

    I expect you do an equal amount of kneeling and bending over. 😁

    Replies: @europeasant

    You forgot to include “ass kissing”.

  57. @Kenn Gividen
    Off topic crime statistics for Indianapolis.

    76.47% of homicide victims in Indianapolis were black (2019).
    The population is only 28 percent black.

    Here's the source from indystar.com ▼

    https://databases.usatodaynetwork.com/indystar/indianapolis-crime-homicide-list-2019

    Replies: @europeasant, @Loren

    “The population is only 28 percent black”

    According to the crime stats I’m thinking that itz 75% black.

  58. @WSG
    @Saira Rao

    First the "Oy Vey" king...now the street shitter. This site is a bit too infested for my liking. Where is that flamethrower when I need it?

    Replies: @europeasant

    “First the “Oy Vey” king…now the street shitter. This site is a bit too infested for my liking. Where is that flamethrower when I need it?”

    A lot of old timers are gone but some are still around and it looks like new people are showing up.

  59. @Blue Juice
    I voted for John Catanzara because he’s a strong supporter of the 2A and doesn’t act like he would back down. He’s become a real thorn in the side of the Democrats and BLM so they will make every effort to destroy him. And the Chicago FOP is hardly a “powerful police union”. In fact, its one of the weakest unions in the whole state and pales in comparison to the almighty communist Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU).

    Seeing police officers kneel before our new black overlords and abandon police stations is downright disgusting. I can say the scene here in Chicago has gone from surreal to downright evil...but there is hope.

    I’m going to go dark for a while. The BLM/ANTIFA Insurgency of 2020 is targeting Chicago police officers and trying to muzzle us. An order came out that a special unit of the Inspector General was investigating the posts and social media of officers. Our cellphone and online records are to be confiscated and examined (never mind the violent social media posts by BLM/ANTIFA). Did some officer record something potentially explosive? Was the Radical Left's playbook or timeline exposed? Doesn’t matter. I figure I need the time to recuperate and get my preps and finances in order for “American Bugaloo Part II” coming sometime before November. (I’m sure you all do too.) I’ll still be reading this site almost daily. The positive fighting spirit will do me good. Stay safe, stay armed, stay alert and stay alive.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @SCuba Steve, @WSG, @Rooster3, @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus

    I’ve always found your posts very insightful and accurate. No one knows the true depths of the black plague better than an inner city cop. Can’t wait to hear from you again.

  60. @Feedsackroad
    @Chris Mallory


    Have they decided on a live convention?
     
    'In August, delegates from across the nation will travel to Milwaukee and formally nominate the next president and vice president of the United States at the Democratic National Convention.'

    https://www.demconvention.com/plans-and-details/resources-for-delegates/

    Plans and Details

    'Find the information and updates you need to get ready for the 2020 Democratic National Convention, happening in Milwaukee the week of August 17.'

    https://www.demconvention.com/plans-and-details/

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    Admittedly, this is a month old but:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/politics/dnc-milwaukee-convention/index.html

    The Democratic National Committee rules committee voted Tuesday to allow convention planners to seek alternate voting methods ahead of the August convention, which could include virtual voting.

    Sounds like the Republicans have decided on two convention sites, one for stuffy business and one for speeches and party.

    Instead, around 336 delegates will conduct the convention’s official business Monday, Aug. 24. Then they’ll head to Jacksonville — and join more than 2,000 other delegates for three days of speeches and celebrations, a top GOP official said Thursday

    .

    • Replies: @Feedsackroad
    @Chris Mallory


    <Admittedly, this is a month old but:
     
    It is murky but as of Wednesday Jun 10 there will be some form of convention in Milwaukee. How many will attend is still in the works. These lunatics are not going to pass up the opportunity to showcase this madness considering the Floyd St George incident and the opportunity to nominate a black female VP candidate.They'll be there. The balloons will drop. They can't help themselves.

    'DNC chair Tom Perez reaffirms Democrats are coming to Milwaukee for 2020 national convention'

    MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL | 3:43 pm CDT June 10, 2020

    Democratic National Committee Chair Tom Perez said Wednesday he doesn't know how many delegates will be on hand for his party's national convention in Milwaukee.

    But Perez reaffirmed Democrats will stage their event the week of Aug.17, despite uncertainty caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

    During a conference call with Wisconsin reporters, Perez said he looked forward to "when we descend on Milwaukee to celebrate our party, to have a safe and effective convention where we will highlight Joe Biden and his historic choice as a running mate..."

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/10/dnc-wont-abandon-milwaukee-convention-host-tom-perez-says/5336025002/
  61. @Chris Mallory
    @Feedsackroad

    Admittedly, this is a month old but:
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/politics/dnc-milwaukee-convention/index.html


    The Democratic National Committee rules committee voted Tuesday to allow convention planners to seek alternate voting methods ahead of the August convention, which could include virtual voting.
     
    Sounds like the Republicans have decided on two convention sites, one for stuffy business and one for speeches and party.

    Instead, around 336 delegates will conduct the convention’s official business Monday, Aug. 24. Then they’ll head to Jacksonville — and join more than 2,000 other delegates for three days of speeches and celebrations, a top GOP official said Thursday
     
    .

    Replies: @Feedsackroad

    <Admittedly, this is a month old but:

    It is murky but as of Wednesday Jun 10 there will be some form of convention in Milwaukee. How many will attend is still in the works. These lunatics are not going to pass up the opportunity to showcase this madness considering the Floyd St George incident and the opportunity to nominate a black female VP candidate.They’ll be there. The balloons will drop. They can’t help themselves.

    ‘DNC chair Tom Perez reaffirms Democrats are coming to Milwaukee for 2020 national convention’

    MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL | 3:43 pm CDT June 10, 2020

    Democratic National Committee Chair Tom Perez said Wednesday he doesn’t know how many delegates will be on hand for his party’s national convention in Milwaukee.

    But Perez reaffirmed Democrats will stage their event the week of Aug.17, despite uncertainty caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

    During a conference call with Wisconsin reporters, Perez said he looked forward to “when we descend on Milwaukee to celebrate our party, to have a safe and effective convention where we will highlight Joe Biden and his historic choice as a running mate…”

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/10/dnc-wont-abandon-milwaukee-convention-host-tom-perez-says/5336025002/

  62. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    Does your hate crime number include the 2,000 plus from that Yid in Israel?

    • Replies: @D-FENS
    @Bill Jones

    “ Does your hate crime number include the 2,000 plus from that Yid in Israel?”

    I looked into this and yes, it does. Chutzpah!

    I have searched to see if the ADL has ever paid off a a reward for information leading to the conviction of an anti-semitic act of vandalism. I have yet to find one case despite all the homeland security grants jewish institutions get.

  63. @Female in FL
    Off topic, remember the negro Andrew Gillum who narrowly lost to DeSantis?
    Here is the latest on his PAC that was signing up new voters.
    The all-but-defunct Forward Florida spent $373,874 in May on legal and other bills, financial disclosure reports show, leaving about $1.3 million out of the original $38.9 million raised since it opened in March 2016.

    It’s the second month in a row the political committee has received no donations.
    John Morgan, of Morgan and Morgan wanted his money back, lol. Andy is too much of a crook for Morgan!

    Replies: @Sick 'n Tired

    The same Andrew Gillum who was found in a Miami Beach hotel room naked, wasted to the point of incoherence, covered in vomit, with 2 gay men, one who was a known male prostitute, baggies of meth, and pills scattered all over the floor, who is now a commentator for CNN, that Andrew Gillum?

    http://weartv.com/news/local/police-release-photos-from-night-andrew-gillum-found-in-florida-hotel-room

    • Replies: @Female in FL
    @Sick 'n Tired

    Lol, yes, the very same Andrew. Funny thing, I was in Miami around that time but stayed at Lowe’s. Would have loved to see them hauling his black ass in a cruiser but they gave him a pass. He will wind up broke in a few more months.

  64. @RoatanBill
    All police unions should be eliminated as organs of extortion and coercion.

    Street cops should be almost entirely eliminated leaving detectives, forensic investigators, and such to continue being the 'police force'.

    The average person should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment. The average person should be able to function as a police officer for himself, family and property. The average person should be able to arm up without any permission slip from corrupt gov't, and take care of any criminal that he may encounter with deadly force if necessary without fear of the 'law' coming down on him for defensive actions.

    We need a police force of the citizenry, not of professional street cop thugs that are forever in the news for abusing the citizenry.

    Replies: @Enrique Suave, @bruce county, @Grand Inquisitor, @Augustus

    Who is “the average person” who “should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment”? Have you seen some of your fellow “citizens” of late? A 300 lbs, pink-haired, man-hating feminista, a confused sodomite, a 75 IQ, dreadlocked chimp with a proclivity for random acts of violence, men who would take a knee to some of the worst society has to offer—these are your fellow citizens. Free and brave, indeed.

    • Agree: SCuba Steve
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Grand Inquisitor

    The bulk of the society is comprised of relatively normal and sane people.

    I'll take my chances along with them to protect myself from the loonies and criminals that don't care about laws and are already armed.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey

  65. @Rooster3
    Kind of ironic that the one pushing back on the Dems is a union. But in this upside down world I guess it kind of makes sense. I’m still trying to figure out if the “off the charts” White-guilt is real, or are people simply virtue-signaling in public and seething on the inside?

    Replies: @D-FENS

    “ I’m still trying to figure out if the “off the charts” White-guilt is real, or are people simply virtue-signaling in public and seething on the inside?”

    I think the latter. I think many white people feel so unmoored and atomized that they want to be part of something. Until they start adopting released felons to live with them, it’s all show.

    Let the Left shit in their own bed (the urban areas). Already, there is a rush to leave SanFrancisco by those who can. Fortunately, they are staying in California.

    The only thing that holds this shit show together is the US Dollar.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    @D-FENS


    Let the Left shit in their own bed
     
    Well, that’s a done deal. The cities that have been forfeited will not be coming back. They’ve imported enough low-echelon, ungovernable people to stuff those places to the gills. Near me, they’ve spoken of a ‘Newark renaissance’ for decades. No one in their right minds would ever consider moving back to such a city, build though they may. Eventually whatever they build is taken over by the animals of the zoo and falls to disrepair.

    Short of military intervention, those places will never clear out or be usable for the civilization that built them.

    And yet, all that truly needs to be done is to defund the blacks.

    Not the police. The blacks.

    With their primary weapon neutralized, the left would be powerless.
  66. @Bill Jones
    @J Adelmen

    Does your hate crime number include the 2,000 plus from that Yid in Israel?

    Replies: @D-FENS

    “ Does your hate crime number include the 2,000 plus from that Yid in Israel?”

    I looked into this and yes, it does. Chutzpah!

    I have searched to see if the ADL has ever paid off a a reward for information leading to the conviction of an anti-semitic act of vandalism. I have yet to find one case despite all the homeland security grants jewish institutions get.

  67. @Grand Inquisitor
    @RoatanBill

    Who is “the average person” who “should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment”? Have you seen some of your fellow “citizens” of late? A 300 lbs, pink-haired, man-hating feminista, a confused sodomite, a 75 IQ, dreadlocked chimp with a proclivity for random acts of violence, men who would take a knee to some of the worst society has to offer—these are your fellow citizens. Free and brave, indeed.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    The bulk of the society is comprised of relatively normal and sane people.

    I’ll take my chances along with them to protect myself from the loonies and criminals that don’t care about laws and are already armed.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    @RoatanBill


    relatively normal and sane people
     
    Ahh. The silent majority. Possibly true but much like most other silent things, they are no help or hinderance in either direction. The silent majority is not moved to action by presumably anything at all so discussing them is an exercise in futility. It might take them a lifetime just to generate an opinion.

    I’ve heard the figure ‘3%’ thrown around as the amount of the population involved in the American revolution. Only 3% of the people at the time were concerned enough to start the ball rolling in the direction of kicking the Britts out.

    The opposition is more than happy to stack the deck with the deep well of Marxist taught public schoolers we knew as our children. They see violent fundamental change as the only way to ‘get what they want’ - which is something their Marxist teachers told them they wanted.

    Now we all know that when the Marxists are done with our foolish children that they will rounded up like the good Marxists they are and discarded. The noisy ones will be killed or imprisoned and the dumber ones will continue to help the cause in the hopes that someday the promises of the born liars will come true. They won’t of course. They never have and they never will. Ask any Russian. Ask any Chinaman.

    That’s the ‘change’ they have planned for America. Federal, state and local government has for the most part been compromised by the left over the past 50 years... which is why you see such stupid things happening on each level. The media and Hollywood were easy targets for the left. First amendment protection is a favorite place for them to run and hide.

    So here we are. Possibly, part of the last 3% that can matter and yet we’re content to squabble among ourselves.

    When is it time to stop talking and step out in the street?

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  68. @Kenn Gividen
    Off topic crime statistics for Indianapolis.

    76.47% of homicide victims in Indianapolis were black (2019).
    The population is only 28 percent black.

    Here's the source from indystar.com ▼

    https://databases.usatodaynetwork.com/indystar/indianapolis-crime-homicide-list-2019

    Replies: @europeasant, @Loren

    stats for blacks..the stats we should know.

  69. @Malla
    @J Adelmen


    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew
     

    we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
     
    Does she know what the caste system looks like?

    Replies: @Loren, @AnalogMan

    caste = racism.

    DNA tests show who the dreadful Gypsies are—Indian Harijans–untouchables.

    • Agree: Malla
  70. Hands Up Don’t Shoot
    False Narrative
    BLM emerges
    What do we want!? Dead Pigs! Oink oink

    Unjust call for Justice

    Unions……. Imagine that……

  71. @Malla
    @J Adelmen


    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew
     

    we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
     
    Does she know what the caste system looks like?

    Replies: @Loren, @AnalogMan

    Of course. Note that he takes care to specify that she is a Brahmin – the highest (most nearly white) caste. Why do you suppose that might matter to him?

    • Replies: @Malla
    @AnalogMan


    Why do you suppose that might matter to him?
     
    Because they are arrogant with a yucchus (Status) craze and the mere presence of Gentile White people rains on their arrogance parade. Simple as that.
  72. BREITBART, some of the news is a hoot,

    you tube pledges 100,000,000 dollars to Black producers.

  73. @Sick 'n Tired
    @Female in FL

    The same Andrew Gillum who was found in a Miami Beach hotel room naked, wasted to the point of incoherence, covered in vomit, with 2 gay men, one who was a known male prostitute, baggies of meth, and pills scattered all over the floor, who is now a commentator for CNN, that Andrew Gillum?

    http://weartv.com/news/local/police-release-photos-from-night-andrew-gillum-found-in-florida-hotel-room

    Replies: @Female in FL

    Lol, yes, the very same Andrew. Funny thing, I was in Miami around that time but stayed at Lowe’s. Would have loved to see them hauling his black ass in a cruiser but they gave him a pass. He will wind up broke in a few more months.

  74. @Lowe
    @Realist

    Because he's a boomer cuck.

    Replies: @Realist

    Because he’s a boomer cuck.

    And a Deep State minion.

  75. @WV Guerrilla
    @Realist

    His daughter married into the tribe of travelling merchants! Her husband dictates to daddy Trump what he will and will not do.

    Replies: @Realist

    Yes, Trump is useless.

  76. The bulk of the society is comprised of relatively normal and sane people.

    If the responses to the 2016 election, COVID quarantine and BLM protests prove anything it’s that the bulk of society is NOT comprised of relatively normal and sane people. In fact it proves that the majority of American society is quite unstable and mentally unwell. I guess you haven’t been to a Walmart your whole life? Bwahahahaha!

    The fact that we all have to post anonymously on an obscure website using crazy pseudonyms (including yourself) for fear of being ostracized or fired from employment and yet all we do is exchange common sense ideas, real-life stories and read about black crime is further proof. Kind of ironic for you isn’t it asshat?

    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
    @Corporal Punishment

    CP, I agree with both of your paragraphs.
    The second one in particular. Always bothered me, that a handle is needed. I would much rather comment here under my name. My fellow Michiganders and I could link up.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  77. @Lunarcricket
    Peak Negro Fatigue is close. I have had two liberal co-workers tell me privately that they are buying firearms. Something both of them said they thought they would never do.

    Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke, @AR in Illinois

    Yeah, I am known for having many guns and ammo. Funny how people are coming out of the woodwork looking for both now. While I feel (slightly) for them, I have to look out for me and mine so I tell them I barely have enough for myself. I didn’t sign up to be everyone else’s supplier.

  78. AR in Illinois———-Good for you.If they had to shoot a Dindu,they would find some way to blame you.

  79. @RoatanBill
    @Grand Inquisitor

    The bulk of the society is comprised of relatively normal and sane people.

    I'll take my chances along with them to protect myself from the loonies and criminals that don't care about laws and are already armed.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey

    relatively normal and sane people

    Ahh. The silent majority. Possibly true but much like most other silent things, they are no help or hinderance in either direction. The silent majority is not moved to action by presumably anything at all so discussing them is an exercise in futility. It might take them a lifetime just to generate an opinion.

    I’ve heard the figure ‘3%’ thrown around as the amount of the population involved in the American revolution. Only 3% of the people at the time were concerned enough to start the ball rolling in the direction of kicking the Britts out.

    The opposition is more than happy to stack the deck with the deep well of Marxist taught public schoolers we knew as our children. They see violent fundamental change as the only way to ‘get what they want’ – which is something their Marxist teachers told them they wanted.

    Now we all know that when the Marxists are done with our foolish children that they will rounded up like the good Marxists they are and discarded. The noisy ones will be killed or imprisoned and the dumber ones will continue to help the cause in the hopes that someday the promises of the born liars will come true. They won’t of course. They never have and they never will. Ask any Russian. Ask any Chinaman.

    That’s the ‘change’ they have planned for America. Federal, state and local government has for the most part been compromised by the left over the past 50 years… which is why you see such stupid things happening on each level. The media and Hollywood were easy targets for the left. First amendment protection is a favorite place for them to run and hide.

    So here we are. Possibly, part of the last 3% that can matter and yet we’re content to squabble among ourselves.

    When is it time to stop talking and step out in the street?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Jim in Jersey

    The looting riffraff currently on display are the opening act. Wait till the economy rolls over for real for the main event. The folks in the street then will be an order of magnitude larger and that will cause the gov't to crack down hard. Probably lots of dead rioters / looters / protesters / call them what you will.

    That's when the gun owning folks that are part of that wave will start firing back. A real war starts and all the gloves come off. That is also when folks can no longer stay on the sidelines as they are likely to become collateral damage if they do.

    So, that's when I suspect the great mass of people will join in to pick a national direction. I just hope it's one that includes states seceding, soldiers refusing to shoot their relatives or their buddies relatives and have the real cause of all the problems in the country focused on. That would be the useless Fed Gov and the Federal Reserve / banking / finance cabal that is currently looting the country.

  80. We’re finally finding some men among pathetic cucks and they all seem to be in the police unions. The Minneapolis police union also blasted the rioters and cited George Floyd’s extensive criminal history.

    The jewed Republican party from top to bottom is busy apologizing, cucking and prostrating themselves to the black supremacists and are now using radical left talking points in tweets and press releases. Disgusting and I hope they know they just killed their worthless brand.

  81. Yeah, I am known for having many guns and ammo. Funny how people are coming out of the woodwork looking for both now.

    It has been funny hearing people announce all of a sudden they are stocking up. A check of one of the online firearms dealers tells the tale. Of approximately 600 semi-auto rifles only 70+/- are in stock with the majority of those being 22LR. If you don’t have it good luck finding it.

  82. @Corporal Punishment

    The bulk of the society is comprised of relatively normal and sane people.
     
    If the responses to the 2016 election, COVID quarantine and BLM protests prove anything it's that the bulk of society is NOT comprised of relatively normal and sane people. In fact it proves that the majority of American society is quite unstable and mentally unwell. I guess you haven't been to a Walmart your whole life? Bwahahahaha!

    The fact that we all have to post anonymously on an obscure website using crazy pseudonyms (including yourself) for fear of being ostracized or fired from employment and yet all we do is exchange common sense ideas, real-life stories and read about black crime is further proof. Kind of ironic for you isn't it asshat?

    Replies: @Detroit Refugee

    CP, I agree with both of your paragraphs.
    The second one in particular. Always bothered me, that a handle is needed. I would much rather comment here under my name. My fellow Michiganders and I could link up.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Detroit Refugee

    I don’t think that you really want to use your real name. With all the super freaks running around the dirty D. Just pick a time and a place and people can get together. On the Q.T. of course. Another Michiganian. (My preference).

  83. @Anon
    If anyone remembers what happened to Serpico, he can fill in the dots here. Only a clouted fool will do anything but turn in his/her/its badge after kneeling.

    Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe

    Try that again, without mixed metaphors and a total re-do on that extra-messed up second sentence.
    G’ head, try.

  84. @Jim in Jersey
    @RoatanBill


    relatively normal and sane people
     
    Ahh. The silent majority. Possibly true but much like most other silent things, they are no help or hinderance in either direction. The silent majority is not moved to action by presumably anything at all so discussing them is an exercise in futility. It might take them a lifetime just to generate an opinion.

    I’ve heard the figure ‘3%’ thrown around as the amount of the population involved in the American revolution. Only 3% of the people at the time were concerned enough to start the ball rolling in the direction of kicking the Britts out.

    The opposition is more than happy to stack the deck with the deep well of Marxist taught public schoolers we knew as our children. They see violent fundamental change as the only way to ‘get what they want’ - which is something their Marxist teachers told them they wanted.

    Now we all know that when the Marxists are done with our foolish children that they will rounded up like the good Marxists they are and discarded. The noisy ones will be killed or imprisoned and the dumber ones will continue to help the cause in the hopes that someday the promises of the born liars will come true. They won’t of course. They never have and they never will. Ask any Russian. Ask any Chinaman.

    That’s the ‘change’ they have planned for America. Federal, state and local government has for the most part been compromised by the left over the past 50 years... which is why you see such stupid things happening on each level. The media and Hollywood were easy targets for the left. First amendment protection is a favorite place for them to run and hide.

    So here we are. Possibly, part of the last 3% that can matter and yet we’re content to squabble among ourselves.

    When is it time to stop talking and step out in the street?

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    The looting riffraff currently on display are the opening act. Wait till the economy rolls over for real for the main event. The folks in the street then will be an order of magnitude larger and that will cause the gov’t to crack down hard. Probably lots of dead rioters / looters / protesters / call them what you will.

    That’s when the gun owning folks that are part of that wave will start firing back. A real war starts and all the gloves come off. That is also when folks can no longer stay on the sidelines as they are likely to become collateral damage if they do.

    So, that’s when I suspect the great mass of people will join in to pick a national direction. I just hope it’s one that includes states seceding, soldiers refusing to shoot their relatives or their buddies relatives and have the real cause of all the problems in the country focused on. That would be the useless Fed Gov and the Federal Reserve / banking / finance cabal that is currently looting the country.

  85. @Blue Juice
    I voted for John Catanzara because he’s a strong supporter of the 2A and doesn’t act like he would back down. He’s become a real thorn in the side of the Democrats and BLM so they will make every effort to destroy him. And the Chicago FOP is hardly a “powerful police union”. In fact, its one of the weakest unions in the whole state and pales in comparison to the almighty communist Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU).

    Seeing police officers kneel before our new black overlords and abandon police stations is downright disgusting. I can say the scene here in Chicago has gone from surreal to downright evil...but there is hope.

    I’m going to go dark for a while. The BLM/ANTIFA Insurgency of 2020 is targeting Chicago police officers and trying to muzzle us. An order came out that a special unit of the Inspector General was investigating the posts and social media of officers. Our cellphone and online records are to be confiscated and examined (never mind the violent social media posts by BLM/ANTIFA). Did some officer record something potentially explosive? Was the Radical Left's playbook or timeline exposed? Doesn’t matter. I figure I need the time to recuperate and get my preps and finances in order for “American Bugaloo Part II” coming sometime before November. (I’m sure you all do too.) I’ll still be reading this site almost daily. The positive fighting spirit will do me good. Stay safe, stay armed, stay alert and stay alive.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @SCuba Steve, @WSG, @Rooster3, @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus

    Stay safe and never hand in your phone. Couldn’t believe your union would allow it to happen. Even if weak, forcible confiscation couldn’t help but raise hackles of any union leader.

    I can’t imagine what Chicago will be like after the summer. I couldn’t imagine being charged with trying to police those people.

    So as I said, stay safe BlueJuice. Chicago could’ve used a whole lot more of guys like you.

  86. @D-FENS
    @Rooster3

    “ I’m still trying to figure out if the “off the charts” White-guilt is real, or are people simply virtue-signaling in public and seething on the inside?”

    I think the latter. I think many white people feel so unmoored and atomized that they want to be part of something. Until they start adopting released felons to live with them, it’s all show.

    Let the Left shit in their own bed (the urban areas). Already, there is a rush to leave SanFrancisco by those who can. Fortunately, they are staying in California.

    The only thing that holds this shit show together is the US Dollar.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey

    Let the Left shit in their own bed

    Well, that’s a done deal. The cities that have been forfeited will not be coming back. They’ve imported enough low-echelon, ungovernable people to stuff those places to the gills. Near me, they’ve spoken of a ‘Newark renaissance’ for decades. No one in their right minds would ever consider moving back to such a city, build though they may. Eventually whatever they build is taken over by the animals of the zoo and falls to disrepair.

    Short of military intervention, those places will never clear out or be usable for the civilization that built them.

    And yet, all that truly needs to be done is to defund the blacks.

    Not the police. The blacks.

    With their primary weapon neutralized, the left would be powerless.

  87. @Lunarcricket
    @Saira Rao

    Yep. And with that shrinking demographic, you can expect another shortage. A shortage of handouts to the growing demographic.

    You can all eat each other alive as far as I'm concerned

    Replies: @WV Guerrilla, @Augustus

    Government will create new money with which to pay the welfare bribes, and the working class will be stuck with the inflation that acts as a tax on all except those who get first use of the money. That’s not those on welfare, as they only get 30 cents of every welfare dollar earmarked for the programs. It’s the government workers who get the 70 cents per dollar for administering the programs.

    In that way working people increasingly pay more and more to take care of the government workers, not the welfare recipients. At this time, our enemies are not the rich, or the poor, but the government rich. Of course, people like Gates, Besos, and many others are like government workers, as government affords them great advantages for their “campaign contributions.”

  88. @RoatanBill
    All police unions should be eliminated as organs of extortion and coercion.

    Street cops should be almost entirely eliminated leaving detectives, forensic investigators, and such to continue being the 'police force'.

    The average person should be allowed the full benefit of the 2nd Amendment. The average person should be able to function as a police officer for himself, family and property. The average person should be able to arm up without any permission slip from corrupt gov't, and take care of any criminal that he may encounter with deadly force if necessary without fear of the 'law' coming down on him for defensive actions.

    We need a police force of the citizenry, not of professional street cop thugs that are forever in the news for abusing the citizenry.

    Replies: @Enrique Suave, @bruce county, @Grand Inquisitor, @Augustus

    You can be against the police unions, and I might agree. But I am NOT against the police. The vast majority try to peform a necessary job, and do so honorably. Don’t let a few bad apples spoil your thoughts about all police.

    • Agree: SCuba Steve
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    I am against the average street cop because he is completely ineffective in his advertised roll. He does not fight crime, he does not protect the citizenry, all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone and gets away with it.

    If you think he performs a needed function, please present a list of all the things he does that's worth the fallout we're currently seeing and the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out because they use tactics designed to force a confrontation. I've made the same request of others and no one has yet produced a list of activities or benefits that a street cop performs. So, it's your turn.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus, @SCuba Steve, @David In TN

  89. @Blue Juice
    I voted for John Catanzara because he’s a strong supporter of the 2A and doesn’t act like he would back down. He’s become a real thorn in the side of the Democrats and BLM so they will make every effort to destroy him. And the Chicago FOP is hardly a “powerful police union”. In fact, its one of the weakest unions in the whole state and pales in comparison to the almighty communist Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU).

    Seeing police officers kneel before our new black overlords and abandon police stations is downright disgusting. I can say the scene here in Chicago has gone from surreal to downright evil...but there is hope.

    I’m going to go dark for a while. The BLM/ANTIFA Insurgency of 2020 is targeting Chicago police officers and trying to muzzle us. An order came out that a special unit of the Inspector General was investigating the posts and social media of officers. Our cellphone and online records are to be confiscated and examined (never mind the violent social media posts by BLM/ANTIFA). Did some officer record something potentially explosive? Was the Radical Left's playbook or timeline exposed? Doesn’t matter. I figure I need the time to recuperate and get my preps and finances in order for “American Bugaloo Part II” coming sometime before November. (I’m sure you all do too.) I’ll still be reading this site almost daily. The positive fighting spirit will do me good. Stay safe, stay armed, stay alert and stay alive.

    Replies: @Female in FL, @SCuba Steve, @WSG, @Rooster3, @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus

    Blue,

    Do whatever you must do to protect your anonymity. I’m sure the mayor and other government entities will be offering a bounty on police officers IPO addresses. The left never stops targeting those who might disagree with them.

    I just sent more money to the SAF and the NRA, as they look ready to go head to head in court again with the state of Illinois. This time over reciprocity for Indiana and Wisconsin citizens. It may be another fight that reaches the Supreme Court. Hopefully Trump wins in November and can nominate another Justice.

    Anyway, take care, and protect yourself.

  90. @Augustus
    @RoatanBill

    You can be against the police unions, and I might agree. But I am NOT against the police. The vast majority try to peform a necessary job, and do so honorably. Don't let a few bad apples spoil your thoughts about all police.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    I am against the average street cop because he is completely ineffective in his advertised roll. He does not fight crime, he does not protect the citizenry, all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone and gets away with it.

    If you think he performs a needed function, please present a list of all the things he does that’s worth the fallout we’re currently seeing and the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out because they use tactics designed to force a confrontation. I’ve made the same request of others and no one has yet produced a list of activities or benefits that a street cop performs. So, it’s your turn.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    @RoatanBill


    all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone
     
    Not a big fan of the cops but it’s hard to have a conversation with someone with so narrow a vision.

    So they all get to murder someone periodically? What if they don’t get their quota of periodic murders? Can they trade their periodic murders with fellow police?

    No one likes seeing them in their rear view and I personally think they’re too militarized and belligerent because the standards were lowered for affirmative action and the equal rights for women crap... but disbanding them without any back up plan is just a bad idea.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    , @Augustus
    @RoatanBill

    The police protected us from a counterfeit $20 bill.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    , @SCuba Steve
    @RoatanBill


    Please present a list of all the things he does that’s worth the fallout we’re currently seeing
     
    Wait for it...

    And the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out
     
    Bingo! You just answered your own question. They eliminate nearly a thousand criminal turds each year who would otherwise still be out victimizing innocents or soaking up tax dollars in prison.

    That is their “roll”... 😁

    “Lives they snuff out?” Get real. The people whose lives are being “snuffed out” are the innocent whites being murdered every day by violent blacks. You sound like Stacy Abrams crying that “a black man was killed just for sleeping in the parking lot at Wendy’s”. 😂

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    , @David In TN
    @RoatanBill

    So you love the average street criminal?

    Care to list the activities or benefits that a street criminal performs?

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  91. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Detroit Refugee
    @Corporal Punishment

    CP, I agree with both of your paragraphs.
    The second one in particular. Always bothered me, that a handle is needed. I would much rather comment here under my name. My fellow Michiganders and I could link up.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I don’t think that you really want to use your real name. With all the super freaks running around the dirty D. Just pick a time and a place and people can get together. On the Q.T. of course. Another Michiganian. (My preference).

  92. @AnalogMan
    @Malla

    Of course. Note that he takes care to specify that she is a Brahmin - the highest (most nearly white) caste. Why do you suppose that might matter to him?

    Replies: @Malla

    Why do you suppose that might matter to him?

    Because they are arrogant with a yucchus (Status) craze and the mere presence of Gentile White people rains on their arrogance parade. Simple as that.

  93. ..keep sucking d**k, solidarity kneelers/marchers/supporters – put on your newest kneepads & take out your teeth before u start your dindu-worship

  94. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew 

    I can’t think of two peoples who are greater racial supremacists. Perhaps the Chinese

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  95. @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    I am against the average street cop because he is completely ineffective in his advertised roll. He does not fight crime, he does not protect the citizenry, all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone and gets away with it.

    If you think he performs a needed function, please present a list of all the things he does that's worth the fallout we're currently seeing and the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out because they use tactics designed to force a confrontation. I've made the same request of others and no one has yet produced a list of activities or benefits that a street cop performs. So, it's your turn.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus, @SCuba Steve, @David In TN

    all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone

    Not a big fan of the cops but it’s hard to have a conversation with someone with so narrow a vision.

    So they all get to murder someone periodically? What if they don’t get their quota of periodic murders? Can they trade their periodic murders with fellow police?

    No one likes seeing them in their rear view and I personally think they’re too militarized and belligerent because the standards were lowered for affirmative action and the equal rights for women crap… but disbanding them without any back up plan is just a bad idea.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Jim in Jersey

    I used the word 'he' which is singular. You decided to dramatize things so you could build a straw man and changed it to 'they'. Exaggerate much?

    You are welcome to produce a list of street cop benefits as my post suggests, but I suspect you'll be like the half dozen others that have your attitude and have failed to do so because, if you really think about it, you can't come up with solid reasons why we need street cops.

    The alternative is self protection. Get a weapon and become your own security because in the end you can count on a street cop showing up to protect your corpse. Prove me wrong by describing how a cop protects the average citizen. My bet is you can't do it.

    Replies: @AnalogMan

  96. @Jim in Jersey
    @RoatanBill


    all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone
     
    Not a big fan of the cops but it’s hard to have a conversation with someone with so narrow a vision.

    So they all get to murder someone periodically? What if they don’t get their quota of periodic murders? Can they trade their periodic murders with fellow police?

    No one likes seeing them in their rear view and I personally think they’re too militarized and belligerent because the standards were lowered for affirmative action and the equal rights for women crap... but disbanding them without any back up plan is just a bad idea.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    I used the word ‘he’ which is singular. You decided to dramatize things so you could build a straw man and changed it to ‘they’. Exaggerate much?

    You are welcome to produce a list of street cop benefits as my post suggests, but I suspect you’ll be like the half dozen others that have your attitude and have failed to do so because, if you really think about it, you can’t come up with solid reasons why we need street cops.

    The alternative is self protection. Get a weapon and become your own security because in the end you can count on a street cop showing up to protect your corpse. Prove me wrong by describing how a cop protects the average citizen. My bet is you can’t do it.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    @RoatanBill

    I'm afraid I also generalised your comment to mean all cops. So, to be clear, is it only one cop that you hate?

    What's his name?

  97. @RoatanBill
    @Enrique Suave

    You'll please note that I took your objection into consideration in my comment.

    It is the current 'law' environment that prevents people from protecting themselves, as you say. That needs to change. The 'law' is responsible for almost all the recidivist crime because it prevents victims from protecting themselves which in many cases would kill the criminal during the commission of a crime and hence would make repeat offense impossible for that individual.

    Gov'ts make laws to purposely create victims so they can then be viewed as their saviors by creating the useless street cop position. It's too bad that that system doesn't actually work. When you need a cop there's usually none around, so the criminals are encouraged to commit crimes because they know there's usually no cop around AND they also know the law prevents their victim from trying any preventative measures. It is the 'law' that is the ultimate problem.

    I strongly support getting rid of the useless street cops while retaining investigators and changing laws and attitudes to allow the average citizen to use whatever force he deems necessary when confronting the criminal element. Shopkeepers, for instance, should be allowed to shotgun any individual that throws the first brick through their window to send a clear message to others considering such action that there will be consequences. People are not an endangered species so there's little point in trying to retain the human trash in the society.

    Replies: @anarchyst

    YOU ARE YOUR OWN FIRST RESPONDER (caps for emphasis).

    Police and other government types are second responders and are only there to pick up the pieces and pass judgement on first responders, quite often in error, especially if the first responder is a law-abiding citizen.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @anarchyst

    Thankfully, I see there's at least one person that gets it.

    The real problem is the political class and their BS laws. They believe there should be gov't run by violence or the threat of violence against the average person. As an anarchist, I'm of the opinion that I don't need them and don't want them. They invent 'laws' that make up crimes when there are none and simply write laws to provide them with a great standard of living while sucking the life out of the society as a whole.

    The street cop is the political class's insurance policy that the citizenry has been talked into as beneficial to them when critical examination reveals that to be just another of our overlords lies. The real reason for the street cop is to protect the political class should the citizenry become uppity. The cops are there ostensibly to 'maintain democracy', 'maintain the rule of law', 'fight crime', etc, etc, etc, all lies. The cops are there to put down minor rebellions aimed at the politicians - that's it.

    When it suits our 'trusted representatives', they call off their dogs and let mayhem commence as is now the case. I keep wondering how the normies rationalize how armed citizens have kept certain areas safe from the looters and have had to injure or killed no one. There are armed citizens in the streets carrying long guns and pistols protecting businesses when the cops won't. Isn't that anarchy in their feeble minds? Shouldn't an armed citizenry be something to fear as they've been propagandized to believe?

    The current clown show has brought out the people that can still think for themselves, own weaponry and act in disregard to the idiot laws to protect life and property, something the street cops can not do and are not designed to do in any case. This is the model for how the society should be run 100% of the time. No need for useless street cops when the citizenry can protect themselves and each other. That concept scares the shit out of the political class because it means the citizenry understands who has the real power.

    https://youtu.be/H6b70TUbdfs

  98. @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    I am against the average street cop because he is completely ineffective in his advertised roll. He does not fight crime, he does not protect the citizenry, all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone and gets away with it.

    If you think he performs a needed function, please present a list of all the things he does that's worth the fallout we're currently seeing and the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out because they use tactics designed to force a confrontation. I've made the same request of others and no one has yet produced a list of activities or benefits that a street cop performs. So, it's your turn.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus, @SCuba Steve, @David In TN

    The police protected us from a counterfeit $20 bill.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    If that were true, they would arrest the original counterfeiters in the Federal Reserve.

    Replies: @Augustus

  99. @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    I am against the average street cop because he is completely ineffective in his advertised roll. He does not fight crime, he does not protect the citizenry, all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone and gets away with it.

    If you think he performs a needed function, please present a list of all the things he does that's worth the fallout we're currently seeing and the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out because they use tactics designed to force a confrontation. I've made the same request of others and no one has yet produced a list of activities or benefits that a street cop performs. So, it's your turn.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus, @SCuba Steve, @David In TN

    Please present a list of all the things he does that’s worth the fallout we’re currently seeing

    Wait for it…

    And the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out

    Bingo! You just answered your own question. They eliminate nearly a thousand criminal turds each year who would otherwise still be out victimizing innocents or soaking up tax dollars in prison.

    That is their “roll”… 😁

    “Lives they snuff out?” Get real. The people whose lives are being “snuffed out” are the innocent whites being murdered every day by violent blacks. You sound like Stacy Abrams crying that “a black man was killed just for sleeping in the parking lot at Wendy’s”. 😂

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @SCuba Steve

    If the 1000 lives all were criminals, I'd be with you, but they are not. Street cops kill people in no knock raids where the startled folks think they're being invaded and then the cops kill them in a gun battle they started. They kill people in confrontations over victimless crimes like traffic violations when the driver dares to have the effrontery to display 'contempt of cop'.

    Your lame attempt at listing why cops are valuable is childish nonsense. Do better. Come up with a comprehensive list of benefits street cops provide. I can't think of anything they do that can't be done better by an armed citizenry that will take out more real criminals than the 1000 you mentioned while not gunning down innocent people. Just look at the armed citizens that have protected people and property when the street cops were nowhere to be found.

  100. @RoatanBill
    @Jim in Jersey

    I used the word 'he' which is singular. You decided to dramatize things so you could build a straw man and changed it to 'they'. Exaggerate much?

    You are welcome to produce a list of street cop benefits as my post suggests, but I suspect you'll be like the half dozen others that have your attitude and have failed to do so because, if you really think about it, you can't come up with solid reasons why we need street cops.

    The alternative is self protection. Get a weapon and become your own security because in the end you can count on a street cop showing up to protect your corpse. Prove me wrong by describing how a cop protects the average citizen. My bet is you can't do it.

    Replies: @AnalogMan

    I’m afraid I also generalised your comment to mean all cops. So, to be clear, is it only one cop that you hate?

    What’s his name?

  101. @anarchyst
    @RoatanBill

    YOU ARE YOUR OWN FIRST RESPONDER (caps for emphasis).

    Police and other government types are second responders and are only there to pick up the pieces and pass judgement on first responders, quite often in error, especially if the first responder is a law-abiding citizen.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    Thankfully, I see there’s at least one person that gets it.

    The real problem is the political class and their BS laws. They believe there should be gov’t run by violence or the threat of violence against the average person. As an anarchist, I’m of the opinion that I don’t need them and don’t want them. They invent ‘laws’ that make up crimes when there are none and simply write laws to provide them with a great standard of living while sucking the life out of the society as a whole.

    The street cop is the political class’s insurance policy that the citizenry has been talked into as beneficial to them when critical examination reveals that to be just another of our overlords lies. The real reason for the street cop is to protect the political class should the citizenry become uppity. The cops are there ostensibly to ‘maintain democracy’, ‘maintain the rule of law’, ‘fight crime’, etc, etc, etc, all lies. The cops are there to put down minor rebellions aimed at the politicians – that’s it.

    When it suits our ‘trusted representatives’, they call off their dogs and let mayhem commence as is now the case. I keep wondering how the normies rationalize how armed citizens have kept certain areas safe from the looters and have had to injure or killed no one. There are armed citizens in the streets carrying long guns and pistols protecting businesses when the cops won’t. Isn’t that anarchy in their feeble minds? Shouldn’t an armed citizenry be something to fear as they’ve been propagandized to believe?

    The current clown show has brought out the people that can still think for themselves, own weaponry and act in disregard to the idiot laws to protect life and property, something the street cops can not do and are not designed to do in any case. This is the model for how the society should be run 100% of the time. No need for useless street cops when the citizenry can protect themselves and each other. That concept scares the shit out of the political class because it means the citizenry understands who has the real power.

  102. @Augustus
    @RoatanBill

    The police protected us from a counterfeit $20 bill.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    If that were true, they would arrest the original counterfeiters in the Federal Reserve.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    @RoatanBill

    I was joking. Who else finds kidnapped children and adults? Who investigates murders, robberies, rapes, etc.?

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  103. @SCuba Steve
    @RoatanBill


    Please present a list of all the things he does that’s worth the fallout we’re currently seeing
     
    Wait for it...

    And the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out
     
    Bingo! You just answered your own question. They eliminate nearly a thousand criminal turds each year who would otherwise still be out victimizing innocents or soaking up tax dollars in prison.

    That is their “roll”... 😁

    “Lives they snuff out?” Get real. The people whose lives are being “snuffed out” are the innocent whites being murdered every day by violent blacks. You sound like Stacy Abrams crying that “a black man was killed just for sleeping in the parking lot at Wendy’s”. 😂

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    If the 1000 lives all were criminals, I’d be with you, but they are not. Street cops kill people in no knock raids where the startled folks think they’re being invaded and then the cops kill them in a gun battle they started. They kill people in confrontations over victimless crimes like traffic violations when the driver dares to have the effrontery to display ‘contempt of cop’.

    Your lame attempt at listing why cops are valuable is childish nonsense. Do better. Come up with a comprehensive list of benefits street cops provide. I can’t think of anything they do that can’t be done better by an armed citizenry that will take out more real criminals than the 1000 you mentioned while not gunning down innocent people. Just look at the armed citizens that have protected people and property when the street cops were nowhere to be found.

  104. @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    I am against the average street cop because he is completely ineffective in his advertised roll. He does not fight crime, he does not protect the citizenry, all he does is harass motorists to help pay for his salary and benefits and periodically murders someone and gets away with it.

    If you think he performs a needed function, please present a list of all the things he does that's worth the fallout we're currently seeing and the over 1000 lives per year that they snuff out because they use tactics designed to force a confrontation. I've made the same request of others and no one has yet produced a list of activities or benefits that a street cop performs. So, it's your turn.

    Replies: @Jim in Jersey, @Augustus, @SCuba Steve, @David In TN

    So you love the average street criminal?

    Care to list the activities or benefits that a street criminal performs?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @David In TN

    Probably the dumbest comment I've read on this topic.

    There are no benefits that street criminals provide and you know that.

    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he's not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time. Street cops show up after the fact to record what they didn't prevent. They are as useless as teats on a bull in crime prevention. Street cops represent the failure to protect the citizenry, so all crime statistics are in fact street cop failure statistics.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can't do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits. The average person armed with their weapon of choice will clean up the trash in the society at a rapid rate ONLY if the stupid idea of police being singularly allowed to arm themselves is done away with. The average person needs to be armed and without the need of some gov't permission slip.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @David In TN

  105. @David In TN
    @RoatanBill

    So you love the average street criminal?

    Care to list the activities or benefits that a street criminal performs?

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    Probably the dumbest comment I’ve read on this topic.

    There are no benefits that street criminals provide and you know that.

    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he’s not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time. Street cops show up after the fact to record what they didn’t prevent. They are as useless as teats on a bull in crime prevention. Street cops represent the failure to protect the citizenry, so all crime statistics are in fact street cop failure statistics.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can’t do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits. The average person armed with their weapon of choice will clean up the trash in the society at a rapid rate ONLY if the stupid idea of police being singularly allowed to arm themselves is done away with. The average person needs to be armed and without the need of some gov’t permission slip.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he’s not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time.
     
    Playing Devil's advocate here, Detroit's STRESS unit prevented muggings.  They captured many armed robbers and killed more than a few, removing them from the streets.  Robberies dropped something like 30%.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can’t do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits.
     
    I just gave you one example.  Serving warrants on criminals is another.  If you can only identify them after the fact (say, by surveillance camera recordings) you need people to go out and get the miscreants.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @SCuba Steve

    , @David In TN
    @RoatanBill

    You are the dumb one. FWIW without a police presence of some sort, there would be vastly more innocents hurt and killed than there already are. And someone has to secure the scene for the investigators.

  106. Where is Trump lately defending these police officers? All of these black media darlings have rap sheets a mile long yet he lets the police officers get thrown under the bus. Nary a word, nary a tweet, tweet. Too busy pandering to blacks and hispanics.

  107. @J Adelmen
    Donald Trump’s election in November of 2016 was associated with a statistically significant surge in reported hate crimes across the United States, even when controlling for alternative explanations.
    But, it’s not gonna last longer.

    The demise of the Alt Right is gonna accelerate.

    This Fascist will lose the election this year.
    Sanders will make our country great for every Person of Color, women and poor people.
    So, my fellow Bigoted White people , your time is about to end.

    You’re like the bad guy in every horror movie ever made, who gets shot five times, or stabbed ten, or blown up twice, and who will eventually pass — even if it takes four sequels to make it happen — but who in the meantime keeps coming back around, grabbing at our ankles as we walk by, we having been mistakenly convinced that you were finally dead this time. Fair enough, and have at it. But remember how this movie ends. Our ankles survive. You do not.

    My wife is Brahmin Indian and I am a Secular Jew who was born and raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and we know from close what Racism and Antisemitism looks like.
    So, Please don’t start calling me a “Privileged Kid”.

    Replies: @Hood Oracle, @Gunga Din, @Alex from NE, @usNthem, @WSG, @Malla, @Lunarcricket, @suicidal_canadian, @Adam Smith, @Bill Jones, @Pop Warner, @Akindle

    Hello? Trump is not alt right, nor even pro white. He cannot even say the word white or Caucasian at one of his rallies. You know, most of the people standing behind him. “Black employment”, “Hispanic employment” ad nauseum. He panders to blacks and hispanics. He still thinks with his First step act which let black felons out of jail early, a stimulus bill geared to only them, plus all the diamond and silk rap crap…He still thinks blacks will vote for him LOL!

  108. @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    If that were true, they would arrest the original counterfeiters in the Federal Reserve.

    Replies: @Augustus

    I was joking. Who else finds kidnapped children and adults? Who investigates murders, robberies, rapes, etc.?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    Investigators discover who did what, not the street cop that acts like a highwayman by chasing down speeders or stop sign rollers to mulct them for money when no victim can be identified.

    We need investigators precisely because street cops don't prevent or deter crimes. Every crime committed is proof positive that street cops are a fraud. I make a clear distinction between those necessary individuals and the average clod that becomes a street cop.

    The way to prevent and deter crime is to have the criminal confront an armed citizen that will blow his head off during the first encounter. That would also reduce the need for all the phony judges, wardens, prisons, etc that simply don't work at preventing or deterring crime because they desperately need criminals to exist to justify their lofty positions. The entire criminal justice system protects and encourages crime. The proof of that is the recidivist rate.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  109. @RoatanBill
    @David In TN

    Probably the dumbest comment I've read on this topic.

    There are no benefits that street criminals provide and you know that.

    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he's not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time. Street cops show up after the fact to record what they didn't prevent. They are as useless as teats on a bull in crime prevention. Street cops represent the failure to protect the citizenry, so all crime statistics are in fact street cop failure statistics.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can't do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits. The average person armed with their weapon of choice will clean up the trash in the society at a rapid rate ONLY if the stupid idea of police being singularly allowed to arm themselves is done away with. The average person needs to be armed and without the need of some gov't permission slip.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @David In TN

    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he’s not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time.

    Playing Devil’s advocate here, Detroit’s STRESS unit prevented muggings.  They captured many armed robbers and killed more than a few, removing them from the streets.  Robberies dropped something like 30%.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can’t do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits.

    I just gave you one example.  Serving warrants on criminals is another.  If you can only identify them after the fact (say, by surveillance camera recordings) you need people to go out and get the miscreants.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    Exactly how does one prevent a mugging? Sounds like the Police Department made up some numbers the way the Fed Gov manufactures the CPI.

    I believe I'm going to ask the UN for $1 Trillion dollars due to my efforts in preventing asteroid strikes for the last 20 years. The proof of my ability in performing this vital social function is that no asteroid has hit the earth in the last 20 years.

    Is that the technique for preventing muggings?

    Capturing criminals after the crime has been committed is a vital police function performed by detectives, forensic investigators and other categories of individuals that are not 'street cops'. These police functions should be kept as I've often mentioned. It is only the useless street cop that fails to prevent or deter crime that needs to go and along with him all the unnecessary deaths and law suits that he creates. It is the abject failure of street cops to prevent or deter crime that provides the need for after the fact investigators to figure out who did what.

    Depending on whom to believe, NY has 35,000 - 38,000 'police', the bulk as street cops. Does the city need 38,000 individuals to serve warrants?

    My guess is that there's more than one 'street cop' on this site and none has so far identified themselves to counter my claim that they are as useless in fighting or preventing crime as teats are to a bull. I further suspect they are silent because they know they can't justify their existence in any meaningful way.

    Street cops are a fraud perpetrated on the society and are solely there to fend off the angry citizenry when that mob is aiming for some politicians head. That's when a phalanx of street cops surrounds their paymasters and protectors of their pensions to keep the citizenry from providing street justice to the miscreants in office. I contend we can't afford that politicians insurance policy, that we pay for, any longer and should get rid of it thus exposing the political class to the potential wrath of their dupes - the voters.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    , @SCuba Steve
    @Mr. Rational


    Detroit’s STRESS unit prevented muggings. They captured many armed robbers and killed more than a few
     
    Same with NYPD’s Stakeout Unit (with the late and great Jim Cirillo). It was very successful, but was nevertheless disbanded following complaints that too many of the dead criminals were members of a certain protected demographic...
  110. @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he’s not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time.
     
    Playing Devil's advocate here, Detroit's STRESS unit prevented muggings.  They captured many armed robbers and killed more than a few, removing them from the streets.  Robberies dropped something like 30%.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can’t do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits.
     
    I just gave you one example.  Serving warrants on criminals is another.  If you can only identify them after the fact (say, by surveillance camera recordings) you need people to go out and get the miscreants.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @SCuba Steve

    Exactly how does one prevent a mugging? Sounds like the Police Department made up some numbers the way the Fed Gov manufactures the CPI.

    I believe I’m going to ask the UN for $1 Trillion dollars due to my efforts in preventing asteroid strikes for the last 20 years. The proof of my ability in performing this vital social function is that no asteroid has hit the earth in the last 20 years.

    Is that the technique for preventing muggings?

    Capturing criminals after the crime has been committed is a vital police function performed by detectives, forensic investigators and other categories of individuals that are not ‘street cops’. These police functions should be kept as I’ve often mentioned. It is only the useless street cop that fails to prevent or deter crime that needs to go and along with him all the unnecessary deaths and law suits that he creates. It is the abject failure of street cops to prevent or deter crime that provides the need for after the fact investigators to figure out who did what.

    Depending on whom to believe, NY has 35,000 – 38,000 ‘police’, the bulk as street cops. Does the city need 38,000 individuals to serve warrants?

    My guess is that there’s more than one ‘street cop’ on this site and none has so far identified themselves to counter my claim that they are as useless in fighting or preventing crime as teats are to a bull. I further suspect they are silent because they know they can’t justify their existence in any meaningful way.

    Street cops are a fraud perpetrated on the society and are solely there to fend off the angry citizenry when that mob is aiming for some politicians head. That’s when a phalanx of street cops surrounds their paymasters and protectors of their pensions to keep the citizenry from providing street justice to the miscreants in office. I contend we can’t afford that politicians insurance policy, that we pay for, any longer and should get rid of it thus exposing the political class to the potential wrath of their dupes – the voters.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    Exactly how does one prevent a mugging?
     
    Are you honestly asking me such a stupid question after I gave you an iconic example?  You remove (by imprisonment or death) those who have tried to commit muggings.  IT WORKS.

    Street cops are a fraud perpetrated on the society and are solely there to fend off the angry citizenry when that mob is aiming for some politicians head.
     
    I have personally been a very recent victim (assault and battery, kidnapping) of a street cop... and I am still defending street cops.  Not that particular one (I'm filing both a civil suit and criminal charges) but street cops in general.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  111. @Augustus
    @RoatanBill

    I was joking. Who else finds kidnapped children and adults? Who investigates murders, robberies, rapes, etc.?

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    Investigators discover who did what, not the street cop that acts like a highwayman by chasing down speeders or stop sign rollers to mulct them for money when no victim can be identified.

    We need investigators precisely because street cops don’t prevent or deter crimes. Every crime committed is proof positive that street cops are a fraud. I make a clear distinction between those necessary individuals and the average clod that becomes a street cop.

    The way to prevent and deter crime is to have the criminal confront an armed citizen that will blow his head off during the first encounter. That would also reduce the need for all the phony judges, wardens, prisons, etc that simply don’t work at preventing or deterring crime because they desperately need criminals to exist to justify their lofty positions. The entire criminal justice system protects and encourages crime. The proof of that is the recidivist rate.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    street cops don’t prevent or deter crimes.
     
    They do deter criminals from committing crimes in front of them.

    The way to prevent and deter crime is to have the criminal confront an armed citizen that will blow his head off during the first encounter.
     
    Or a plainclothes decoy who'll also arrest or blow his head off at the first encounter.  Said plainclothes decoy won't have to plead "self defense", because the whole purpose of the effort was laid out ahead of time.  I'd much rather have decoys take on (and kill) the muggers than me.

    Of course, I'd prefer that the mugger-American population be removed to Liberia, but we have to take this one step at a time.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  112. @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    Exactly how does one prevent a mugging? Sounds like the Police Department made up some numbers the way the Fed Gov manufactures the CPI.

    I believe I'm going to ask the UN for $1 Trillion dollars due to my efforts in preventing asteroid strikes for the last 20 years. The proof of my ability in performing this vital social function is that no asteroid has hit the earth in the last 20 years.

    Is that the technique for preventing muggings?

    Capturing criminals after the crime has been committed is a vital police function performed by detectives, forensic investigators and other categories of individuals that are not 'street cops'. These police functions should be kept as I've often mentioned. It is only the useless street cop that fails to prevent or deter crime that needs to go and along with him all the unnecessary deaths and law suits that he creates. It is the abject failure of street cops to prevent or deter crime that provides the need for after the fact investigators to figure out who did what.

    Depending on whom to believe, NY has 35,000 - 38,000 'police', the bulk as street cops. Does the city need 38,000 individuals to serve warrants?

    My guess is that there's more than one 'street cop' on this site and none has so far identified themselves to counter my claim that they are as useless in fighting or preventing crime as teats are to a bull. I further suspect they are silent because they know they can't justify their existence in any meaningful way.

    Street cops are a fraud perpetrated on the society and are solely there to fend off the angry citizenry when that mob is aiming for some politicians head. That's when a phalanx of street cops surrounds their paymasters and protectors of their pensions to keep the citizenry from providing street justice to the miscreants in office. I contend we can't afford that politicians insurance policy, that we pay for, any longer and should get rid of it thus exposing the political class to the potential wrath of their dupes - the voters.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Exactly how does one prevent a mugging?

    Are you honestly asking me such a stupid question after I gave you an iconic example?  You remove (by imprisonment or death) those who have tried to commit muggings.  IT WORKS.

    Street cops are a fraud perpetrated on the society and are solely there to fend off the angry citizenry when that mob is aiming for some politicians head.

    I have personally been a very recent victim (assault and battery, kidnapping) of a street cop… and I am still defending street cops.  Not that particular one (I’m filing both a civil suit and criminal charges) but street cops in general.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    After the mugger is released from jail, how does a street cop prevent said mugger from doing it again?

    Try not to focus on the extraneous cases. Try to focus on the majority cases where a known criminal is put back on the street by the justice system so he can commit another crime. The street cop can't keep him away from anyone. The entire justice system isn't worth spit.

    The street cop is an absolutely useless individual in the goal of reducing crime. The intended victim is always at the scene of the crime and should be armed to blow the perp away. Once criminals know a good many of their targets just might be armed and kill them, that's when crime goes down as a deterrent (fear of death) or by actually having the criminal's body reach ambient temperature.

    Your choice - protect yourself of delude yourself that some street cop is going to come to your rescue.

  113. @RoatanBill
    @Augustus

    Investigators discover who did what, not the street cop that acts like a highwayman by chasing down speeders or stop sign rollers to mulct them for money when no victim can be identified.

    We need investigators precisely because street cops don't prevent or deter crimes. Every crime committed is proof positive that street cops are a fraud. I make a clear distinction between those necessary individuals and the average clod that becomes a street cop.

    The way to prevent and deter crime is to have the criminal confront an armed citizen that will blow his head off during the first encounter. That would also reduce the need for all the phony judges, wardens, prisons, etc that simply don't work at preventing or deterring crime because they desperately need criminals to exist to justify their lofty positions. The entire criminal justice system protects and encourages crime. The proof of that is the recidivist rate.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    street cops don’t prevent or deter crimes.

    They do deter criminals from committing crimes in front of them.

    The way to prevent and deter crime is to have the criminal confront an armed citizen that will blow his head off during the first encounter.

    Or a plainclothes decoy who’ll also arrest or blow his head off at the first encounter.  Said plainclothes decoy won’t have to plead “self defense”, because the whole purpose of the effort was laid out ahead of time.  I’d much rather have decoys take on (and kill) the muggers than me.

    Of course, I’d prefer that the mugger-American population be removed to Liberia, but we have to take this one step at a time.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    What minuscule fraction of crimes is committed in front of a street cop? If a cop happens to be at the donut shop when it's being robbed, it's pure coincidence.

    NYC just disbanded their plainclothes unit. Would they disband it if it was doing some good?

    Face it, the street cop of today is the equivalent of the caboose flagman of decades ago. The only reason street cops exist is because they have a union that contracts a certain number of useless eaters the city must employ.

    Street cops are welfare recipients with guns and a bad attitude towards the public. These are not doctors, engineers, and others with brains deciding to bust heads for a living, they are the high school football heroes that cruised thru school, learned nothing of value and then discovered they have no marketable skill because they lack the initiative and intelligence to make something of themselves. These are people that should be digging ditches, not pushing people around.

    If you think that a street cop protects you in any way you are delusional. Get a weapon and learn how to use it. That's the only thing you can count on - you, because the street cop is at the donut shop while you're getting accosted.

    Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke, @Mr. Rational, @SCuba Steve

  114. @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    street cops don’t prevent or deter crimes.
     
    They do deter criminals from committing crimes in front of them.

    The way to prevent and deter crime is to have the criminal confront an armed citizen that will blow his head off during the first encounter.
     
    Or a plainclothes decoy who'll also arrest or blow his head off at the first encounter.  Said plainclothes decoy won't have to plead "self defense", because the whole purpose of the effort was laid out ahead of time.  I'd much rather have decoys take on (and kill) the muggers than me.

    Of course, I'd prefer that the mugger-American population be removed to Liberia, but we have to take this one step at a time.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    What minuscule fraction of crimes is committed in front of a street cop? If a cop happens to be at the donut shop when it’s being robbed, it’s pure coincidence.

    NYC just disbanded their plainclothes unit. Would they disband it if it was doing some good?

    Face it, the street cop of today is the equivalent of the caboose flagman of decades ago. The only reason street cops exist is because they have a union that contracts a certain number of useless eaters the city must employ.

    Street cops are welfare recipients with guns and a bad attitude towards the public. These are not doctors, engineers, and others with brains deciding to bust heads for a living, they are the high school football heroes that cruised thru school, learned nothing of value and then discovered they have no marketable skill because they lack the initiative and intelligence to make something of themselves. These are people that should be digging ditches, not pushing people around.

    If you think that a street cop protects you in any way you are delusional. Get a weapon and learn how to use it. That’s the only thing you can count on – you, because the street cop is at the donut shop while you’re getting accosted.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    @RoatanBill

    RotanBill------"NYC just disbanded their plain clothes unit.Would they disband it if it was doing some good?"-----------You must be kidding.This is DeBlasio's NYC. It's probably being disbanded BECAUSE it was doing some good.

    , @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    NYC just disbanded their plainclothes unit. Would they disband it if it was doing some good?
     
    DeBlasio would disband the unit BECAUSE it was doing some good.  (Sorry to repeat, NWNB.)

    Get a weapon and learn how to use it.
     
    I did and I do.
    , @SCuba Steve
    @RoatanBill

    I guess it has never occurred to you that the reason cops are rarely present when crimes occur is because criminals take pains to not commit them in front of the police? Fear of being arrested prevents crimes every single day. Your denial of this is laughably obtuse. 😂


    Every crime committed is proof positive that street cops are a fraud
     
    I see. I suppose every new case of cancer is proof positive that doctors are a fraud as well? 🤣

    I like an armed citizenry as much as the next guy, but if you think they will screw up and kill innocents less often than trained police do, then you are even more delusional than you’ve already proven yourself to be. 😉

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @RoatanBill

  115. @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    Exactly how does one prevent a mugging?
     
    Are you honestly asking me such a stupid question after I gave you an iconic example?  You remove (by imprisonment or death) those who have tried to commit muggings.  IT WORKS.

    Street cops are a fraud perpetrated on the society and are solely there to fend off the angry citizenry when that mob is aiming for some politicians head.
     
    I have personally been a very recent victim (assault and battery, kidnapping) of a street cop... and I am still defending street cops.  Not that particular one (I'm filing both a civil suit and criminal charges) but street cops in general.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    After the mugger is released from jail, how does a street cop prevent said mugger from doing it again?

    Try not to focus on the extraneous cases. Try to focus on the majority cases where a known criminal is put back on the street by the justice system so he can commit another crime. The street cop can’t keep him away from anyone. The entire justice system isn’t worth spit.

    The street cop is an absolutely useless individual in the goal of reducing crime. The intended victim is always at the scene of the crime and should be armed to blow the perp away. Once criminals know a good many of their targets just might be armed and kill them, that’s when crime goes down as a deterrent (fear of death) or by actually having the criminal’s body reach ambient temperature.

    Your choice – protect yourself of delude yourself that some street cop is going to come to your rescue.

  116. @RoatanBill
    @David In TN

    Probably the dumbest comment I've read on this topic.

    There are no benefits that street criminals provide and you know that.

    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he's not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time. Street cops show up after the fact to record what they didn't prevent. They are as useless as teats on a bull in crime prevention. Street cops represent the failure to protect the citizenry, so all crime statistics are in fact street cop failure statistics.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can't do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits. The average person armed with their weapon of choice will clean up the trash in the society at a rapid rate ONLY if the stupid idea of police being singularly allowed to arm themselves is done away with. The average person needs to be armed and without the need of some gov't permission slip.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @David In TN

    You are the dumb one. FWIW without a police presence of some sort, there would be vastly more innocents hurt and killed than there already are. And someone has to secure the scene for the investigators.

  117. @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    What minuscule fraction of crimes is committed in front of a street cop? If a cop happens to be at the donut shop when it's being robbed, it's pure coincidence.

    NYC just disbanded their plainclothes unit. Would they disband it if it was doing some good?

    Face it, the street cop of today is the equivalent of the caboose flagman of decades ago. The only reason street cops exist is because they have a union that contracts a certain number of useless eaters the city must employ.

    Street cops are welfare recipients with guns and a bad attitude towards the public. These are not doctors, engineers, and others with brains deciding to bust heads for a living, they are the high school football heroes that cruised thru school, learned nothing of value and then discovered they have no marketable skill because they lack the initiative and intelligence to make something of themselves. These are people that should be digging ditches, not pushing people around.

    If you think that a street cop protects you in any way you are delusional. Get a weapon and learn how to use it. That's the only thing you can count on - you, because the street cop is at the donut shop while you're getting accosted.

    Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke, @Mr. Rational, @SCuba Steve

    RotanBill——“NYC just disbanded their plain clothes unit.Would they disband it if it was doing some good?”———–You must be kidding.This is DeBlasio’s NYC. It’s probably being disbanded BECAUSE it was doing some good.

  118. @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    What minuscule fraction of crimes is committed in front of a street cop? If a cop happens to be at the donut shop when it's being robbed, it's pure coincidence.

    NYC just disbanded their plainclothes unit. Would they disband it if it was doing some good?

    Face it, the street cop of today is the equivalent of the caboose flagman of decades ago. The only reason street cops exist is because they have a union that contracts a certain number of useless eaters the city must employ.

    Street cops are welfare recipients with guns and a bad attitude towards the public. These are not doctors, engineers, and others with brains deciding to bust heads for a living, they are the high school football heroes that cruised thru school, learned nothing of value and then discovered they have no marketable skill because they lack the initiative and intelligence to make something of themselves. These are people that should be digging ditches, not pushing people around.

    If you think that a street cop protects you in any way you are delusional. Get a weapon and learn how to use it. That's the only thing you can count on - you, because the street cop is at the donut shop while you're getting accosted.

    Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke, @Mr. Rational, @SCuba Steve

    NYC just disbanded their plainclothes unit. Would they disband it if it was doing some good?

    DeBlasio would disband the unit BECAUSE it was doing some good.  (Sorry to repeat, NWNB.)

    Get a weapon and learn how to use it.

    I did and I do.

  119. @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    Now you tell me how the average street cop prevents a mugging, robbery, rape, murder, etc when he’s not anywhere near when it happens the vast majority of the time.
     
    Playing Devil's advocate here, Detroit's STRESS unit prevented muggings.  They captured many armed robbers and killed more than a few, removing them from the streets.  Robberies dropped something like 30%.

    If you disagree, then describe their benefits. You can’t do that because street cops provide no identifiable benefits.
     
    I just gave you one example.  Serving warrants on criminals is another.  If you can only identify them after the fact (say, by surveillance camera recordings) you need people to go out and get the miscreants.

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @SCuba Steve

    Detroit’s STRESS unit prevented muggings. They captured many armed robbers and killed more than a few

    Same with NYPD’s Stakeout Unit (with the late and great Jim Cirillo). It was very successful, but was nevertheless disbanded following complaints that too many of the dead criminals were members of a certain protected demographic…

  120. @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    What minuscule fraction of crimes is committed in front of a street cop? If a cop happens to be at the donut shop when it's being robbed, it's pure coincidence.

    NYC just disbanded their plainclothes unit. Would they disband it if it was doing some good?

    Face it, the street cop of today is the equivalent of the caboose flagman of decades ago. The only reason street cops exist is because they have a union that contracts a certain number of useless eaters the city must employ.

    Street cops are welfare recipients with guns and a bad attitude towards the public. These are not doctors, engineers, and others with brains deciding to bust heads for a living, they are the high school football heroes that cruised thru school, learned nothing of value and then discovered they have no marketable skill because they lack the initiative and intelligence to make something of themselves. These are people that should be digging ditches, not pushing people around.

    If you think that a street cop protects you in any way you are delusional. Get a weapon and learn how to use it. That's the only thing you can count on - you, because the street cop is at the donut shop while you're getting accosted.

    Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke, @Mr. Rational, @SCuba Steve

    I guess it has never occurred to you that the reason cops are rarely present when crimes occur is because criminals take pains to not commit them in front of the police? Fear of being arrested prevents crimes every single day. Your denial of this is laughably obtuse. 😂

    Every crime committed is proof positive that street cops are a fraud

    I see. I suppose every new case of cancer is proof positive that doctors are a fraud as well? 🤣

    I like an armed citizenry as much as the next guy, but if you think they will screw up and kill innocents less often than trained police do, then you are even more delusional than you’ve already proven yourself to be. 😉

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @SCuba Steve

    You mean because some overweight cop is riding around in a cop car harassing motorists is why criminals are scared? How about hundreds of thousands to millions of citizens armed and protecting their property - wouldn't they represent a better deterrent to crime? Yes, criminals can look out for cops but how do they know which citizens is armed and dangerous?

    Take NYC as an example. If just a small fraction of the population was armed, say 10%, that would represent 800,000 deterrents to crime that don't draw a salary or require a pension versus the 35,000 cops. How about 20%?

    But no, the citizenry can't be armed, except in rare circumstances, so they are easy prey for the criminal element while the trained fat cop is miles away. This situation is stupid beyond belief and you champion it.

    Cops in effect are a major cause of criminal activity because the citizen is prevented from protecting himself. How can you in good conscience support a system that by design puts the citizen at risk? How can you support a system that has a 31 year old push a 91 year old woman to the ground and crack her head open after he's been arrested 103 times before as has recently occurred in NYC?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    , @RoatanBill
    @SCuba Steve

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/06/john-w-whitehead/the-system-is-rigged-qualified-immunity-is-how-the-police-state-stays-in-power/

  121. @SCuba Steve
    @RoatanBill

    I guess it has never occurred to you that the reason cops are rarely present when crimes occur is because criminals take pains to not commit them in front of the police? Fear of being arrested prevents crimes every single day. Your denial of this is laughably obtuse. 😂


    Every crime committed is proof positive that street cops are a fraud
     
    I see. I suppose every new case of cancer is proof positive that doctors are a fraud as well? 🤣

    I like an armed citizenry as much as the next guy, but if you think they will screw up and kill innocents less often than trained police do, then you are even more delusional than you’ve already proven yourself to be. 😉

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @RoatanBill

    You mean because some overweight cop is riding around in a cop car harassing motorists is why criminals are scared? How about hundreds of thousands to millions of citizens armed and protecting their property – wouldn’t they represent a better deterrent to crime? Yes, criminals can look out for cops but how do they know which citizens is armed and dangerous?

    Take NYC as an example. If just a small fraction of the population was armed, say 10%, that would represent 800,000 deterrents to crime that don’t draw a salary or require a pension versus the 35,000 cops. How about 20%?

    But no, the citizenry can’t be armed, except in rare circumstances, so they are easy prey for the criminal element while the trained fat cop is miles away. This situation is stupid beyond belief and you champion it.

    Cops in effect are a major cause of criminal activity because the citizen is prevented from protecting himself. How can you in good conscience support a system that by design puts the citizen at risk? How can you support a system that has a 31 year old push a 91 year old woman to the ground and crack her head open after he’s been arrested 103 times before as has recently occurred in NYC?

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    But no, the citizenry can’t be armed, except in rare circumstances, so they are easy prey for the criminal element
     
    Why are street cops and armed self-defense mutually exclusive IYO?  Embrace the power of "and".

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  122. @SCuba Steve
    @RoatanBill

    I guess it has never occurred to you that the reason cops are rarely present when crimes occur is because criminals take pains to not commit them in front of the police? Fear of being arrested prevents crimes every single day. Your denial of this is laughably obtuse. 😂


    Every crime committed is proof positive that street cops are a fraud
     
    I see. I suppose every new case of cancer is proof positive that doctors are a fraud as well? 🤣

    I like an armed citizenry as much as the next guy, but if you think they will screw up and kill innocents less often than trained police do, then you are even more delusional than you’ve already proven yourself to be. 😉

    Replies: @RoatanBill, @RoatanBill

  123. @RoatanBill
    @SCuba Steve

    You mean because some overweight cop is riding around in a cop car harassing motorists is why criminals are scared? How about hundreds of thousands to millions of citizens armed and protecting their property - wouldn't they represent a better deterrent to crime? Yes, criminals can look out for cops but how do they know which citizens is armed and dangerous?

    Take NYC as an example. If just a small fraction of the population was armed, say 10%, that would represent 800,000 deterrents to crime that don't draw a salary or require a pension versus the 35,000 cops. How about 20%?

    But no, the citizenry can't be armed, except in rare circumstances, so they are easy prey for the criminal element while the trained fat cop is miles away. This situation is stupid beyond belief and you champion it.

    Cops in effect are a major cause of criminal activity because the citizen is prevented from protecting himself. How can you in good conscience support a system that by design puts the citizen at risk? How can you support a system that has a 31 year old push a 91 year old woman to the ground and crack her head open after he's been arrested 103 times before as has recently occurred in NYC?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    But no, the citizenry can’t be armed, except in rare circumstances, so they are easy prey for the criminal element

    Why are street cops and armed self-defense mutually exclusive IYO?  Embrace the power of “and”.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    Street cops don't do anything useful for their 40 hours per week. For the most part, they sit around, drive around and do next to nothing for the bulk of their time. They are a waste of money AND they cause all sorts of problems by killing people unnecessarily, holding up drivers for made up offenses, and costing the taxpayers a fortune in salaries, benefits and retirement pensions. They are simply not worth the expenditure.

    Given how useless they've been during the riots, I don't know why anyone would want to continue the fraud that is the street cop. Real investigators, forensics people, and those that have the skill set to figure out "who did it" are necessary.

    Put guns in the hands of the citizenry, provide training and have at least 100 times as many eyes and ears looking out for criminals. The existence of the official street cop is what prevents the citizenry from being armed because the 'law' essentially prevents an ordinary person from getting armed the way a street cop is armed.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  124. @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    But no, the citizenry can’t be armed, except in rare circumstances, so they are easy prey for the criminal element
     
    Why are street cops and armed self-defense mutually exclusive IYO?  Embrace the power of "and".

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    Street cops don’t do anything useful for their 40 hours per week. For the most part, they sit around, drive around and do next to nothing for the bulk of their time. They are a waste of money AND they cause all sorts of problems by killing people unnecessarily, holding up drivers for made up offenses, and costing the taxpayers a fortune in salaries, benefits and retirement pensions. They are simply not worth the expenditure.

    Given how useless they’ve been during the riots, I don’t know why anyone would want to continue the fraud that is the street cop. Real investigators, forensics people, and those that have the skill set to figure out “who did it” are necessary.

    Put guns in the hands of the citizenry, provide training and have at least 100 times as many eyes and ears looking out for criminals. The existence of the official street cop is what prevents the citizenry from being armed because the ‘law’ essentially prevents an ordinary person from getting armed the way a street cop is armed.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @RoatanBill


    the ‘law’ essentially prevents an ordinary person from getting armed the way a street cop is armed.
     
    I can legally carry several firearms (at once) with multiple magazines, pepper spray, the works.  You are flat wrong, and delusional.
  125. @RoatanBill
    @Mr. Rational

    Street cops don't do anything useful for their 40 hours per week. For the most part, they sit around, drive around and do next to nothing for the bulk of their time. They are a waste of money AND they cause all sorts of problems by killing people unnecessarily, holding up drivers for made up offenses, and costing the taxpayers a fortune in salaries, benefits and retirement pensions. They are simply not worth the expenditure.

    Given how useless they've been during the riots, I don't know why anyone would want to continue the fraud that is the street cop. Real investigators, forensics people, and those that have the skill set to figure out "who did it" are necessary.

    Put guns in the hands of the citizenry, provide training and have at least 100 times as many eyes and ears looking out for criminals. The existence of the official street cop is what prevents the citizenry from being armed because the 'law' essentially prevents an ordinary person from getting armed the way a street cop is armed.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    the ‘law’ essentially prevents an ordinary person from getting armed the way a street cop is armed.

    I can legally carry several firearms (at once) with multiple magazines, pepper spray, the works.  You are flat wrong, and delusional.

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