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But aren’t white people using their stimulus checks to buy guns? Why aren’t they committing gun violence at the rate of black people across America? [Norfolk police chief believes increase in gun violence can be linked to stimulus checks, systemic issues, Wavy.com, July 12, 2021]:

It was another dangerous weekend of violence in Hampton Roads.

A majority of the shootings this time around were right in the heart of our region: Norfolk. Six shootings spanned the weekend in the city, leaving several dead including a 15-year-old girl. They happened in a variety of areas.

On Friday night around 11:40 p.m. on Old Ocean View Road, 40-year-old Calvin Byas was shot. He later died.

On Saturday, 15-year-old Teonna Coburn was shot to death as she was coming home from the grocery store on E. Tanners Creek Drive with her brother. The 17-year-old boy survived his wounds.

On Sunday night, officers responded to Vimy Ridge Avenue. They found a man with gunshot wounds. He died at the scene.

Norfolk Police Chief Larry Boone says he’s been talking about this problem for five years, and it’s not a new problem.

“On the heels of the pandemic, you have George Floyd, and on the heels of that, people were buying guns like nobody’s business,” he said.

Boone says he believes he can trace the proliferation of gun violence to stimulus checks.

“If you look at when the stimulus checks were rolled out and correlate that to the uptick in gun purchases, you will see a correlation in gun violence.”

Boone says those guns then go to the most vulnerable Black and brown communities.

“There is a saying that when America has a cold, then Black and brown communities have the flu … It is impacted by crime, health issues, mental health, education, unemployment, and the police department is left to manage that,” Boone said.

Boone says Black and brown neighborhoods are inherently disadvantaged to neighborhoods with larger white populations when it comes to crime.

“If you look at the average education in, say, Ghent, if you look at the employment rate … in Ghent, if you look at the crime, particularly gun violence … in Ghent as opposed to those Black and brown neighborhoods, they are different,” he said.

Boone also said those in power have created the issues.

“Systematic decisions are made by those in power that created this mess, and those that currently hold those positions. I am blaming them,” he said.

We pointed out to the chief it does sound like he is blaming them. What did he mean by that?

“It is not a Norfolk thing. It is an urban thing. It is redlining, and under education, unemployment, mental health,” he explained.

Boone sees children impacted more in minority communities,

“Those poor kids. They see violence almost every day, and they got to take that to school, and they are expected to perform, but they just saw somebody get killed,” he said.

Boone says children are targeted more and suspects more.

“That’s the telltale sign. They’re getting their hands on guns like M&Ms … the homicides have gone down, but what’s different is the impact to our youth,” he said.

A lot of white people are under the poverty line in Norfolk, but who cares? They aren’t part of”an urban thing. It is redlining, and under education, unemployment, mental health…”

For more than half a decade, almost all gun violence has been black on black.

Again, white people are getting stimulus checks too… why aren’t they committing ANY gun violence?

 
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  1. Everybody knows “gun violence” is really just a euphemism.

    • Agree: John Johnson
  2. We know the answer to this:  it’s GENETICS.  The African-out-of-place-in-America is genetically more prone to have low IQ, have high time preference, have high propensity for impulsive and violent behavior.

    The only solution is their removal, BAMN.

  3. Such a grand, bloated facade which still can’t hide the obvious:. Affican genetics are ill-suited to advanced, high-trust societies.

  4. loren says:

    drudge

    High-school students in California could soon be required to take at least one semester of something called “ethnic studies” to graduate. The California Senate Education Committee holds hearings this week on Assembly Bill 101, which passed the lower house 58-9 in May. If A.B. 101 becomes law, it will line the pockets of a waiting diversity industry with hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer funds, as well as federal coronavirus relief money.

    In response to the Covid-19 pandemic, Congress passed the Cares Act in March 2020. The legislation provided \$2.2 trillion of financial assistance to individuals, businesses and state institutions. Of that \$2.2 trillion, \$16.2 billion was set aside for primary and secondary education. The California Education Department received \$2 billion.

    These funds were intended to cover a variety of difficulties caused by pandemic-related budget shortfalls. The U.S. Department of Education recommended that the money be used to prevent teacher layoffs, preserve mental-health programs, and improve school ventilation. But the feds also urged state education departments to use the money to “advance equity” given the “disproportionate impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on communities of color.” This opened the door for California to spend its federal windfall in a way that mos

    • Replies: @Augustus
  5. loren says:

    Queens Basketball Court Where 14-Year-Old Aamir Griffin Was Killed By Stray Bullet Reopens

  6. usNthem says:

    Larry (ba)boone brought out all the usual “it ain’t our fault” tropes, and then topped it off with stimulus checks of all things. Now there’s a deep thinker. Ever wonder where those checks come from Larry? How about your people – black and White libtards like yourself, fool. Maybe one of these days, 80 Iq tards like yourself will put 2&2 together – and it don’t equal 5.

    • LOL: DMZABO
  7. Polistra says:

    Boone says Black and brown neighborhoods are inherently disadvantaged to neighborhoods with larger white populations when it comes to crime.

    Yeah, they have more crime. Somehow this is everyone’s fault but the criminals.

    The current thinking is that moving these “Black and brown” people out into white neighborhoods will provide the solution, and it will–providing that the ‘solution’ you seek is the destruction of white neighborhoods. Here’s another coal-burner escapade. Neighbors said she often appeared with black eyes. But do black eyes matter?

    https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/kassceen-weaver-49-and-dina-d-weaver-48-of-chesterfield-were-charged-with-conspiracy-to-conceal-the-body-of-their-son-eliel-adon-weaver/

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  8. El Dato says:

    Blacks:

    – Will shoot each other in droves when living in poverty through racism, redlining, voter suppression, food deserts, lead pipes, drugs, COVID and rap.
    – Also will shoot each other in droves when given welfare checks and stimulus money.

    It’s like a self-generating problem from hell.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @PaceLaw
  9. Chief Larry Boone is an idiot and an out and out racist. The good Chief is another fine example of race based promotions that put totally incompetent people in positions of authority especially in government. Boone is a negro who has made it to the top because of the fact that he is a negro. If not for racially based testing and promotions in police agencies that have been mandated by the courts Boone would be shining shoes at a bus stop. This fraud of a police chief hasn’t a clue and can’t admit that the problem with violence in darkie land is because of a race of failed humans that are still a half a step away from cave man status. Chief, shut up!

  10. Mental health, are we finally acknowledging the fact that negroes are mentally deficient? Always have been, always will be.
    Stimulus checks could be the reason why so many negroes were at the airport.
    Bite, you should have seen the stupid 20 year old white chick I saw. She wore a cheap t shirt with the words “music without black men,” then a Brady Bunch picture of ugly negro men. Imagine my horror when she sat next to me on the plane. She whipped out her book, Justice and Politics.

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  11. If this is what they do after that measly little stimulus check, just imagine what they will do after reparations.

  12. Possumman says:

    Guns come in menthol too?

    • LOL: Lancelot_Link, Charon
  13. Norfolk Police Chief Larry Boone says he’s been talking about this problem for five years, and it’s not a new problem…and later “says he believes he can trace the proliferation of gun violence to stimulus checks.” So, have the gangstas and thugs been getting government stimulus “for five years?” Larry, you can’t have it both ways – you can’t blame “this problem for five years” on “the proliferation of gun violence to stimulus checks” unless the shooters have been getting government stimulus checks throughout the “five years”. The stimulus checks just allow the shooters to buy more guns and ammo, to circulate more drugs on the streets and to lessen the thugs’ already low chance of entering the workforce. Get a clue, Larry.

  14. Whether on the right or wrong side of the law it seems the powerful urge to oppress, hurt, damage and cause suffering is a strong motivation; but for what? Satisfying evil urges and indulging in horrific fantasy. Like the woman who was drugged, assaulted and left to overdose and die alone it seems the negroe is always up to no good.

    https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/victim-recalled-seeing-blood-everywhere-after-alleged-rape-by-california-rapper-in-las-vegas/

    https://abc30.com/sanger-police-officer-arrested-timely-jd-torrence-arrest/10869674/

  15. KenR says:

    Blacks have nourished and established a thug culture, one enmeshed in the drug trade and fueled by it. Scores are settled on the streets in this system. Every score — trash talking and “dissing” (which the thug culture promotes as important bravado) can get you a trip to Boot Hill.

    No will exists anywhere to combat this. To the contrary, in rap music and in sports culture this stuff is romanticized.

  16. PaceLaw says:
    @El Dato

    “ Also will shoot each other in droves when given welfare checks and stimulus money.”

    Blacks are just plain violent. This is why that I thought the black-on-Asian hate crimes stuff was overplayed. In a weird way, at least this proves that blacks aren’t racist, they are just violent. Blacks will attack anyone without hardly any provocation, including their own.

  17. @Mr. Rational

    OT: If you haven’t seen any of the videos of the riots in S. Africa, here you go. Also notice how private citizens have stepped up to defend their communities from the looters. Take notes because it’s going to happen sooner or later here in the US too.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/FaeceSocietatis/status/1414705129979273221

    • Agree: Charon
  18. I think they’re just confused.

    We need a PSA immediately informing them NOT to adopt the stray bullets on the streets.

  19. @Polistra

    At least they won’t have to sit in jail until their court date like so many other impoverished criminals. (Sarc)

    “The parents have been released on bond and are expected to appear in court on Aug. 5, the Richmond Dispatch reported.”

  20. HT says:

    It isn’t gun violence. It is Negro violence.

    • Replies: @Raccoon
  21. eah says:

    Norfolk VA is 41% black and as you’d expect has rates of violent crime far above state and national averages.

    Remember the ‘Star Trek’ episode (‘Mirror, Mirror’) where Kirk et al are transported into a parallel universe where everyone on the Enterprise is their evil opposite? — and the film ‘In the Heat of the Night’, with Rod Steiger as the bigoted police chief? — it’s like there was a transporter accident in ‘Wakanda’, and Boone landed in Norfolk, where he feels he must say a lot of dumb shit to explain black dysfunction — but no doubt he makes a really good salary, will get an even nicer pension, and is smart enough to say what he knows the media wants to hear and so not endanger his job and pension.

    OT

    Here’s an example of why I occasionally comment about Jews — re the image and interests of Whites, many prominent Jews are, like Sacha Baron Cohen, malevolent and hypocritical.

    • Replies: @loren
  22. CCZ says:
    @Mr. Rational

    “…have high propensity for impulsive and violent behavior.”

    As in even their modern homelands:

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
  23. Wherever the African is, is Africa. They are genetically hardwired to recreate Wakanda–mud huts, tin shacks, casual broad-daylight cannibalism, and all–wherever they may be.

    It is really a hundred and fifty years past time for them all to go back. There is no racism problem in Liberia. Whitey doesn’t oppress them there. They should be encouraged to go.

    • Agree: V. Hickel, Oil 'n Water
    • Replies: @V. Hickel
  24. Djkjcgjj says:

    Although many POSSESS guns, I doubt many criminals OWN guns, and few actually BOUGHT guns.

  25. UNIT472 says:

    I thought you had to have filed a 2020 Federal Tax return to be eligible for a ‘stimulus’ check. That means a lot of hoodrats didn’t get one so what in the hell is this so called ‘police chief’ babbling about?
    It is also the case that most hoodrats already have a gun and if they don’t they aren’t going to pay retail and submit to a background check to buy one. That’s why the murder rate in negro neighborhoods was high long before George Floyd OD’d or hadn’t the monkey in a police chief suit noticed?

    We better turn our attention to South Africa where things are unraveling fast.

  26. @Mr. Rational

    “There is a saying that when America has a cold, then Black and brown communities have the flu …

    Chief seems to be making an argument for repatriation. He must agree with us.

  27. @usNthem

    “If you look at when the stimulus checks were rolled out and correlate that to the uptick in gun purchases, you will see a correlation in gun violence.”

    If chief believes that too much taxpayer largesse combined with the “Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop” propensity of the negro are a problem, I have to agree.

    • LOL: Lancelot_Link
  28. “believes he can trace the proliferation of gun violence to stimulus checks.” Interesting concept. I now realize (thanks to Police Chief Larry baBoone) that when I was a young person and got a stimulus from my parents…I mean an allowance… that I failed to go out and buy a switchblade so I could get violent and go around stabbing people. What the hell was wrong with me? All those lost opportunities! Instead, I wasted it on comic books, candy, going to the movies and other despicable activities. Even now, as an adult, I’ve wasted the government stimulus checks by spending the money on home repairs and the like. Someone stop me! I’m sick and depraved and need help! It’s so bad that, God help me, I haven’t even bought a gun and started shooting the neighbors! I’m Sick! Sick! Sick!

    • LOL: usNthem, El Dato, Augustus
    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  29. Raccoon says:
    @HT

    It is definitely gun violence.

    People always say “shots rang out” and “the gun went off” rather than “the Negro rang out” or “the Negro went off”.

    Just doesn’t sound right.

  30. Pirate999 says:

    Norfolk police chief blames stimulus checks for the killing of a 15 year old girl. The conclusion of another dumb cop.

  31. loren says:
    @Raccoon

    In memorial of the dad and 2 grown sons, killed, someone posted ‘3 lost to the streets.’

    the dude killed as he left jail or prison or holding, shot a zillion times.

  32. HT says:
    @Raccoon

    Calling it gun violence just gives them an opening to blame the guns. Put the blame where it belongs, on the Negroes.

    • Replies: @Raccoon
  33. @Non PC Infidel

    I own several guns that I keep loaded around my house. Not once in the 25+ years as a gun owner have any of them had “shots ring out” “have streets gone wrong” or has “gun violence erupted” from any of them.

    • Agree: Oil 'n Water
  34. AnalogMan says:
    @CCZ

    Hilarious. I love to see the stupid Babuntus looting electric stoves and TVs. They still haven’t caught on that in the future there will be no electricity. And I’m not talking about the distant future – I mean from now on.

    We all saw this coming, of course. We tried to warn you. You wouldn’t learn from Ghana, Congo, Sudan, Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Angola, and on and on. Now, South Africa is the last lesson. There will be no more examples from Africa. All future examples will be in your own homelands. Learn, or die.

    My brother died this morning in South Africa. Though I’m sorry to lose him, at least I’m glad that he will be spared what is to come. It’s going to be ugly – even uglier.

  35. V. Hickel says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    i have said here before, \$200k/per and a free tixket to Africa would be a bargain, and many would accept.

    • Agree: Pepe the Frog
  36. Bite Moi says:
    @Female in Fl

    Female in FL————Segregation and Sundown Laws,while currently out of fashion, prove that there are methods to deal with negro crime. What the hell does White civilization do with White “progressive” women determined to destroy what White men have built over the last few thousand years? Are they THAT angry with their fathers,or do modern women simply have too much time on their hands?

  37. Bite Moi says:
    @Raccoon

    Raccoon——My preferred term is “Willie thump Willie”.

    • LOL: Pepe the Frog
  38. CDebussey says:
    @loren

    People watch football..gosh

    For a large portion of my life I was a sports fan, but the rhetoric of late cured me of all that. When looking at foozball and especially bakeeball players and the crime they commit, if they had private courts for these rich a**holes those courtrooms would look no different than the public ones in inner cities coast to coast. Lines of nigrow mutts wall to wall and a few spics and honkeys peppered in here and there. If current events prove anything its like the old saying goes, you can take the thug out of the hood, but you can never get the hood out of the thug. It doesn’t for the most part matter how much money these clowns make, under all of the jewelry and expensive clothes they’re still the same garden variety mutts, which most turn back into a few years after they’ve been tossed away due to injury or age and pissed away their millions on Bentley’s and 8 million dollar houses.

    • Replies: @PvtCharlieSlate
  39. @UNIT472

    things are unraveling fast.

    Fast, but I doubt long.

    There’s was nothing left of South Africa shortly after apartheid was abolished. After intelligent rule, the place turned into a mud pit and had remained that way till now.

    Once they sweep through and burn the remaining structures/businesses, that should be it.

    They don’t have the attention span for more unless driven by ‘other forces’.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  40. @UNIT472

    It is also the case that most hoodrats already have a gun and if they don’t they aren’t going to pay retail and submit to a background check to buy one.

    No doubt that’s true, but

    That’s why the murder rate in negro neighborhoods was high

    Africans in Africa and Haiti butcher one another continuously with machetes and anything else they can pick up, including big rocks. Guns have very little to do with their genetically hardwired bloodlust. They are not like us.

    • Agree: DMZABO
    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  41. @Jim in Jersey

    They don’t have the attention span for more unless driven by ‘other forces’.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that they are. The pro-Zuma mobs at this point seem to be half the population or more, and they are systematically destroying infrastructure in a manner that to me very strongly suggests that outside forces are, at the very least, nudging the leaders of the mobs towards very specific targets. Power plants. Water treatment plants. Food warehouses are being burned down as often as they are looted. It isn’t random. They’re sending their own country back to the Stone Age.

    Somebody, and I have a strong suspicion that it’s China, is pointing the IQ-55 mobs at targets that ensure total destruction of South Africa’s economy and the complete collapse of South African society. China was an enormous and enthusiastic backer of the ANC well into the 1980s. They were very friendly with the Communist government that they helped install, and very pleased at access to South African diamonds, gold, tungsten, titanium, and cobalt. I think the ANC got too greedy with the bribery they were demanding and the Chinese began to find them tiresome. I think we’re about to see a “peacekeeping force” go in to “restore order,” and whether or not they’re wearing blue helmets, the Chinese are going to be pulling the strings. I predict they’re going to install a puppet dictator who’s going to be more obedient, and do whatever it takes to prop him up.

    That is my prediction. It could be wrong, of course. But this looks too much like a “color revolution” to me. The Chinese, I think, got tired of having to pay bribes to be allowed to loot South Africa and once they sweep out the trash, the iron fist is coming down and they’re going to stop pretending to be nice.

    • Agree: Sick 'n Tired, Raccoon
  42. @Raccoon

    We don’t need trigger locks. We need… something that rhymes with that.

  43. @AnalogMan

    Hilarious. I love to see the stupid Babuntus looting electric stoves and TVs. They still haven’t caught on that in the future there will be no electricity. And I’m not talking about the distant future – I mean from now on.

    Watch them load the stoves with firewood after the electricity quits.

    I’m sorry about your brother.

    • Agree: DMZABO
    • Thanks: AnalogMan
  44. Bite Moi says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    Pepe the Frog———They are not like any other race either. Homo something besides sapiens.

  45. Augustus says:

    Boone blames redlining, under education, unemployment, and mental health for the crime amongst blacks? How ignorant of him not to notice that those are symptoms, 5and not causes of black crime. There’s another CAUSE, black ignorance, as he more than adequately displays.

  46. @Bite Moi

    There are some interesting parallels between the “ghost” populations whose traces are found in the DNA of living Africans and the races of other-than-descendants of Adam mentioned in Genesis.

    And no, I never thought I would ever say something like that.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
  47. Augustus says:
    @loren

    Education in any given state should be run by intelligent people, answerable to caring parents, not by greedy, ignorant union slugs accountable to no one but political hacks and bureaucrats.

    • Agree: Oil 'n Water
  48. Again last week I was at a national antique tractor show in southern Illinois. It lasted three days. During that time I did not see ONE uniformed LEO or marked patrol car on the grounds. In three days I saw exactly TWO black people, they were both hired help working in one of the concession stands. It was a pleasant peaceful time with thousands of people enjoying their hobby. NOT ONCE did ‘shots ring out’ or did ‘the streets’ kill anyone. Go figure.

    Tractorguy

  49. I watched Zulu again last night just to get used to the idea.

    I clearly don’t have enough ammo.

    • LOL: Augustus
  50. I watched Zulu again last night just to get used to the idea.

    I clearly don’t have enough ammo.

    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  51. AnalogMan says:
    @Mr. Rational

    My sympathies.

    Don’t be afraid to use whatever ammunition is appropriate to your audience. For instance (from memory, I may have some details wrong), in the book of Daniel, Dan interprets a dream of the Babylonian king where he saw a statue with a head of gold, chest and shoulders of silver, belly of bronze, legs of iron, and feet of an amalgam of iron and clay. A rock strikes the feet and brings the whole thing down.

    Daniel tells him the head of gold represents the Babylonian empire, the most magnificent ever. They had gold statuary in their streets (obviously, no negroes). The hanging gardens of Babylon were one of the seven wonders of the ancient world, built to please a queen who missed the hills of her home country.

    The other segments represent succeeding empires, identified (after the fact, of course) as respectively Persian (silver), Greek (bronze) and Roman (iron). The metals are emblematic of their cultures, e.g. the “iron rule” of Rome, maintained in part by their use of iron weapons while many of their adversaries were still using bronze.

    But who is represented by the feet of iron and clay? Bible scholars apparently have different opinions. I like to say, man, it’s obvious. Can you think of a better metaphor for Diversity? It’s us, and Diversity will bring the whole shebang crashing down.

    Believe it, or not. The point stands.

  52. Trevor says:
    @Bite Moi

    They are not like any other race either. Homo something besides sapiens.

    Or possibly another genus between Homo and Pan?

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  53. @tractorguy

    Antique Car Shows (and Book Fairs, and Antique Radio Shows) are right up there with the fresh produce section of your nearest grocery store when it comes to Safe White Spaces.

  54. @AnalogMan

    I am sorry for your loss.
    Brothers are valuable things.

    • Thanks: AnalogMan
  55. @Trevor

    The genetic gap is equivalent to the difference between the coyote and the N. American gray wolf.  That’s species-level, not genus-level.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  56. loren says:
    @tractorguy

    I have heard about that show.

    try museums
    classical music / opera
    library [not computer room, homeless men watchin porn and crazy homeless women
    college [4 year

    feel free to add to list

    forget canada , its ruined

  57. Bite Moi says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    Jim in Jersey———I try to avoid Walmart,but sometimes you just need to go. Best to avoid “Peak Negro” times if possible. In addition to being alert, i try to stay about 8-10 foot away from a ghettopottamus. Most Walmart displays won’t stop a 9mm, but these ladies should shield me from anything less than a .44 mag.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  58. @Mr. Rational

    I would agree. Pan pseudohominis would be my taxonomic suggestion. My Latin is not very good, but my intent is to put them in the same genus with the chimpanzees with whom they share so many genes, with a species identifier that denotes their status as pseudo- or quasi-human.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational, Trevor
  59. Raccoon says:
    @HT

    Surely I didn’t have to put the “/s” tag there?

  60. @Bite Moi

    If you have to go to Wal-Mart, the best times are early in the morning on a weekday, preferably before 10am.

  61. @CDebussey

    Some years ago I read about a typical bakkaball, aka African tree hockey, star who bought hisself a multi-hundred thousand dollar Bentley – and then “customized” it wiff chrome wheels.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  62. @Bite Moi

    Sort of like Magnus Lupus Malus = Big Bad Wolf.

    Parvus Zinjanthropus Ignoramus Malus = Inferior Ignorant Evil Black Humanoid.

  63. @tractorguy

    Go to any antique car/machinery show and the only blacks you will encounter will be the Model T’s.

    • Replies: @AR in Illinois
    , @Bite Moi
  64. @PvtCharlieSlate

    I believe the preferred and politically correct spelling is “baxitball,” good sir.

  65. @PvtCharlieSlate

    Ha, just went to one of these on Sunday. Thousands of people….ZERO nog attendees. The only one there was a woman with a set-up in the flea market. Living history civil war players, old steam equipment demonstrations, local brass band playing classic marching band music, many old restored tractors….Whitopia!!!

    • Replies: @loren
  66. Bite Moi says:
    @PvtCharlieSlate

    PvtCharlieSlate———-There are no blacks at antique car,old farm machinery,or similar shows.However,my town tends to host the shows at the old fair ground. This is situated in the deepest part of Nogville. The nogs loudly compete to park yo’car. I wouldn’t park my ex-wife there.

    • LOL: AnalogMan
  67. @tractorguy

    Are you saying that obsolete farm equipment doesn’t like to be near obsolete farm equipment? That explains a great deal, actually.

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