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Isn’t the answer to an organization, be it a tech company or an orchestra, boasting too many white participants in said activity just to fire all the white people and only hire non-whites if diversity, inclusion and equity is the primary goal?

Why spill so many needless words when the solution is just to ban the hiring of white people, and fire all whites currently employed in the field were whites have been declared disproportionately privileged, and the dearth of blacks can only be blamed on racism, structural inequality, and implicit bias. [U.S. orchestras are still mostly white. Here’s how to change that, Dallas Morning News, May 4, 2022]:

Dallas Morning News Editor’s note : This story is part of our focus on solutions put forward to tackle big and small social problems in our communities. Our evidence-based reporting explores what is being done in North Texas and looks for examples set by people doing it better elsewhere.

For decades, American orchestras have struggled with a lack of diversity among their musicians. They’ve changed auditions, set up fellowships and diversified their concert programs. But the largest U.S. orchestras remain mostly white.

Over the past 20 years, the Dallas Symphony Orchestra has employed three Black musicians full time, but none now. It has four Latino musicians. The situation is not much different at the Fort Worth Symphony Orchestra, which has one Latino musician and two Black musicians. Both orchestras employ more Asian and Asian American musicians, with 14 at the Dallas Symphony and 11 at the Fort Worth Symphony.

After the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in 2020, U.S. orchestras responded to calls for action by featuring more composers of color and bringing in more diverse guest conductors and soloists than ever.

But two years later, “far too little has been done” to change how orchestras hire and keep their musicians, says the Black Orchestral Network, which was launched this week by Black musicians from more than 40 orchestras.

Orchestras agree they need to better reflect the communities they serve so that more audiences — especially those historically underrepresented in concert halls — will feel welcome.

They see this as vital to staying relevant in an increasingly diversifying nation. In Dallas, non-Latino white people made up 28.8% of the population in 2020, with Blacks at 24.3% and Latinos at 41.5%, U.S. census figures show.

Several orchestras have addressed the problem through fellowships. Possibly the most successful has been the Detroit Symphony’s African American Orchestra Fellowship, which began in 1990 after Michigan legislators threatened to withhold funding the year before if the orchestra didn’t bring on more Black musicians. It had only one at that time.

The fellowship has placed one to two musicians in the orchestra for two-year stints. Of the 20 total fellows, two joined the Detroit Symphony — one of the 25 biggest budget orchestras in America — as full-time members.

One other fellow plays in a U.S. orchestra among the top 25, while others won jobs in Alabama, Colorado, Phoenix and even Thailand. Still others became teachers and freelancers, or arts administrators. All are still involved in music.


Cole Randolph, an African American cellist, started the Detroit fellowship during the pandemic, and felt welcomed into the orchestra. He did mock auditions and took lessons with players in the section, who pushed him to get better with honest feedback. He says this training helped him win the audition to join the cello section last year.

Still, fellowships at U.S. orchestras haven’t made a significant impact on the racial diversity of full-time orchestral musicians. A 2016 study from the League of American Orchestras concluded that fellowships “are not, in and of themselves, a solution to the persistent racial homogeneity of orchestras.” Of the 94 fellows for whom data was available, 39 (or 41%) played in orchestras — though not all were full time — 16 (or 17%) were soloists, freelancers or orchestra substitutes and 16 were teachers, the study found.

Despite probably tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions, spent to try and diversity orchestras across America with the requisite amount of black faces, the top orchestras across America are populated with primarily individual white people who collectively play some of the most beautiful music ever written (disproportionately written by dead white males, mind you)…

This can’t stand in 2022, as we are nearly two year removed from George Floyd dying of a drug overdose while in police custody.

Just fire all the white musicians, make it illegal to hire white people, and only hire and promote black and Hispanic musicians. There’s your diversity and equity, and artificial inclusion.

After all, whiteness is nothing more than a pejorative, a nearly unutterable expletive, save to curse its very existence.


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  1. Gore 2004 says:

    When will this crap end?

    When white liberals face the repercussions?

    • Replies: @Raccoon
    , @Lancelot_Link
    , @Rich
  2. A large part of the population really truly honestly BELIEVES the narrative that Blacks are disadvantaged and repressed and otherwise are fully capacitated to become the world’s greates violine virtuoso.

    Only relentless fight for free speech (and #TrueSpeech) about #RacistFacts like race realism as a valid hypothesis can turn this insane world around.

    I wish @PK good luck in his effort to enlighten the world to the reality of Black dysfunction. May he succeed in spreading the truth.

  3. Trevor says:

    How many blacks can even read classical music 🎵?

    Does (c)rap use music notes?

    • Replies: @possumman
  4. Bite Moi says:

    Orchestras too White. Just another example of racism,Can’t possibly be due to low IQs.

  5. Whining,carping,complaining,griping,grousing,searching for any reason to stir fecal material….the paper actually paid staff to do research 🧐 and write ✍️ that article? And yet… much do they charge for each newspaper?How many employees have been laid off?How do their benefits/pay stack up compared to 10/20 years ago? The point I’m trying to make is you always hear about newspapers and their financial difficulties (at least you used to)…..maybe if they wouldn’t research/print fecal material like this then people would buy/ subscribe.If I lived in a “ city” and the paper put out garbage like this I’d never buy again/cancel subscription.Amy two cents.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
  6. Like blacks give a sh** about the opera or Mozart. Hilarious.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  7. Rooster14 says:

    In my city, they’re tearing down a popular eatery and building a center for youth orchestra. I thought how strange, but thanks to your article I now understand. They’re going to try and cram as many black and brown faces through this thing, using tax payer money, hoping that one or two makes it through to a higher level and then exclaim “see we’re all the same!” What will the final all in cost be, not joking I’m guessing north of \$100 million.

    We have to be close to halfway through the collapse at this point, we have to…

    • Replies: @Howa.308
  8. usNthem says:

    Seeing a bunch of joggers in an orchestra (more like a crapestra), would be jarring. Although, your average libtard audience member would probably be wetting their pants in excitement.
    This continued insanity that anything and everything needs to reflect demographic numbers is just another reminder that this (former) country is truly on the cusp of doom.

  9. loren says:

    off topic

    America Being Invaded at the Hands of Its Own Leaders
    Frosty Wooldridge
    In March, Biden invited 221,000 illiterate refugees to cross over and spread out across our country. He’s using our tax dollars to fly them everywhere. The figures for April were 234,000 illiterate refugees as reported by NPR. They are bursting our welfare systems. They are crowding out our own low-income wage earners. They are going to be the new “ghetto-dwellers” just like India or in Mexico City or heck, Los Angeles with 66,000 homeless.
    The DC folks are devolving our country into a third world cesspool. It’s going to be another 250,000 refugees in May and continue monthly through 2022. It’s possible that Biden will inject 3,000,000 refugees into our country in 2022. This is about the most insane moment in US history where our own president destroyed our country…and Congress let him do it. We’re in more trouble than anyone in DC understands…and the American people have no idea of what’s coming from this invasion. It’s very possible that we will never recover. Why? Do you see Mexico recovering? How about India? What about Honduras or El Salvador or Somalia? This is not going to end well for any of us.
    Do you think we will survive the projected 100 million more people added to this country? If you say “yes”, you’re about as bright as a -5 watt light bulb. How do I know what’s coming? Because I’ve seen it in my world travels. Once a country devolves into a majority of illiterate and uneducable people, total chaos dominates. You can see the examples everywhere in the world.
    Frosty Wooldridge, 6 continent world bicycle traveler.

    • Agree: AnalogMan
  10. Don’t worry. In 30 years time,Hip Hop will be the classical music of the time. Orchestras will present works by such celebrated composers as Tupac, Jay Z, Fat Joe,Biggie Smalls and Raekwon.
    Couples will excitedly don their best clothes for an evening out at Orchestra Hall,( commonly called,yes,Orc Hall😉) featuring Snoop Dog’s best or Nipsey Hustle’s most notable pieces.

    • Disagree: loren
    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @Truth
  11. loren says:

    msn off topics

    lots of latino crime bhere but i ll copy paste,
    am a middle-aged African American father, reeling from the sheer horror of what happened to members of my community in Buffalo. Through my pain, I am praying for all the victims and their traumatized families, friends and neighbors – and for all the minority Americans who are feeling even more afraid now than they did before.

    And if you, like the alleged shooter, are a White, teenage male, I want you to know that I am also praying for you.

    I am capable of empathy. I can imagine that you may well sometimes feel angry, lonely or anxious. That’s normal – we live in a scary world. You’ve grown up hearing about the threats of economic instability, climate change and terrorism. You’ve seen our politicians and perhaps your own community grow ever more polarized, with all sides demonizing each other. You likely live on the front line of social media’s relentless onslaught on truth and kindness. You, as have we all, just lived through the worst public health crisis in a century and may well have lost loved ones to Covid-19…
    ntal health over your ability to always appear brave and strong.

    However, not everything has changed. Not yet.

    Because you are male, you were born a winner of the patriarchal jackpot. You are more likely to rise to the top of the career ladder and will be better paid on your way up. The state will not attempt to dictate what you can and cannot do with your own body. On top of that, because you are White, and you live in a country that is structurally racist, you enjoy the huge privilege your skin color gives you.

    No one will try to rob you of your right to vote. You don’t need to be terrified of law enforcement officers. You will benefit from better education, health care, job opportunities and finances, for example, than your peers who happen to be Black. Although your ancestors also likely moved here from somewhere else at some point in the past, it probably wasn’t as shackled slaves.

    If you have the added bonus of being Christian, heterosexual, cisgender and able-bodied, then you might well never know firsthand how it feels to be stigmatized, marginalized or hated because of some aspect of yourself over which you have absolutely no control. Tha


    did white mothers trust this creature?

    • Troll: Legba
    • Replies: @loren
  12. So is the one of those times where Asians count as White people, or will they get overlooked so the usual suspects can push out Europeans from a European art form in favor of their pet monkeys? Because every orchestra I’ve seen, especially major orchestras, have tons of Asians in them.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  13. Raccoon says:
    @Gore 2004


    When white liberals face the repercussions?

    Never – well, at least in the absence of segregation, violence and consequences.

    These are the End Times – prepare Ye accordingly…

  14. @Gore 2004

    Of what? Not fighting for opportunities in funkiest bands touring the chitlin’ circuit?



  15. SO how many classical pieces of music call for African tree log drums? Not too damn many I am sure.
    Booga Bunga Rythm!

  16. Augustus says:

    Leftist social justice types see race EVERYWHERE. They cannot see that different races/cultures might gravitate toward different music. If I prefer to play “16th Avenue,” “Country Roads,” or “City of New Orleans,” while others prefer classical, hip hop, jazz, blues, or even rap, what does it matter? Do they spend billions trying to get more Asians into blues, or Whites into rap? No, it’s always about getting blacks into White areas of endeavors. They are very open about their racism now. They have no fear of pushing White people around.

    Someone posted the other day that when the dollar melts down, this will all change. It’s possible that White people have become too weak to EVER reassert our Western culture as the predominant culture in North America. I hope, as Fred Reed said, Whites will develop a racial consciousness as strong as that of Blacks, and then this will all end badly for Blacks, and their leftist friends, but it’s not looking this way at present.

    Ever since that fraud, Dr Spock, wrote his book on how to raise weak males, White females have been willing to raise little wusses.

  17. Jameson says:

    Sort of like the timpani drum, the way someone will stand there for an entire production only to have one spot at some point to hit the drum, just have someone dressed in an African costume, with a bone in the nose, and at some point they can bang on a rustic looking drum of some sort and make a funny face.

  18. magilla says:

    Just got out of muh time machine, and bring you an interview with the 2030 conductor:

    His master work, uncut:

    Liberals at a certain point have to realize they can have excellence or they can have Afro-diversity, but not both. Asians, even Latinos to a degree, can master classical music and its associated disciplines. Blacks can’t, not at the rate required for elite institutions.

    Unless you want “Muh Dick, Shoot Yo’Ass, Suck Muh Dick” to be your new opera. Conducted by Li’l Keed–hol’ up, he daid–conducted by dat ninja oba dere.

  19. Barnard says:
    @Bardon Kaldlan

    They are already closer to this than you think. Our local symphony did a tribute concert to Aretha Franklin this last season. In another generation, seeing them try to work in some hip hop group wouldn’t be a shock. This particular group is entirely White and Asian.

  20. If the RULING CONGLOMERATE would allow water to seeks it’s level, all would be hunky dory.
    And the white population would be stable, instead of being punctured.
    But NO…they have to artificially manipulate, in favor of the exalted blacks. And other minorities.
    The result is assisting quasi-genocide of whites.
    Which is apparently fine with the left….including the insane suicidal whites among the left.

  21. From what I read this morning, the Biden administration is continuing its war on white children by hoarding baby formula for wic recipients and boarder jumpers.

    • Replies: @p. cleburne
  22. This is one way that the racist concept of diversity destroys culture.


    How does negroe crime bless us? Let us count the ways! 911 operators are down coworkers and have to work 6-7 days a week. Does black crime make this so or do employees hate speaking with racist whites?

  24. Remember the black guy that was filmed beating up elderly people in a nursing home in Michigan? The one who had the presence of mind to set up cameras to film himself in action? He’s been declared too incompetent to stand trial and charges are dismissed.

    • Thanks: loren
  25. Jameson says:

    Orchestras use a blind audition behind a screen so that people are judged solely on the sound they make. Even that is under attack so that they can try to get some blacks in. It was started to get more women on, guess it will have to end to get some blacks on. They could still keep the screen, just let the screener know when a black is auditioning, then they could adjust their scale accordingly, if the sound is passable, they get through.

  26. Rich says:
    @Gore 2004

    It would end tomorrow if White legislators represented their people the way negro politicians represent their people.

    • Agree: AnalogMan
  27. @Pop Warner

    Asians are one of the few groups who push their kids into learning/mastering a classical instrument. The amount of young orcs willing to dedicate 20 hours a week learning to play the oboe or violin is .00000000001%. They’d rather be out wildin’, rapping, and making that paper.

  28. Bite Moi says:

    usNthem———-It’s not just professional orchestras that must become more black and woke.One of the local middle school’s Christmas program featured “Jingle Bells and Jungle Drums”. No room on the program for “The First Noel”,but definately a place for Jungle.

  29. And yet whites can’t perform rap or hip-hop…”cultural appropriation,” doncha know… (and when was the last time Eminem released a new rap album?… but Machine Gun Kelly is a blood-drinking Satanist, so I guess he’s okay….)

    IMHO, when they banned one of the greatest orchestra/symphony conductors ever, Valary Gergiev, they basically banned talent in classical music! And that Russian soprano, as well…

    • Agree: Bite Moi
  30. @usNthem

    Seeing a bunch of joggers in an orchestra (more like a crapestra), would be jarring


    They intend to put the “orc ” into orchestra.

    • LOL: usNthem, Charon
  31. @Jameson

    They could still keep the screen, just let the screener know when a black is auditioning,

    Their odor normally gives them away.

    • LOL: In Ohio
  32. eah says:

    No, U.S. orchestras and the NBA don’t have similar problems with racial diversityA recent Dallas Morning News article about the lack of racial diversity at U.S. orchestras stirred up responses from readers. Here are some answers.

    On May 5, I published a story on The Dallas Morning News website titled: “U.S. orchestras are still mostly white. Here’s how to change that.” The story later appeared on the front page of the May 8 newspaper.

    From the day it was posted, responses streamed in. Over my three years as a classical music writer at The News, it’s the most emails I received about a story. It also drew hundreds of comments across social media.

    Some respondents were positive, but most reacted negatively.

  33. Truth says:
    @Bardon Kaldlan

    You’re 20 years late, Rip…

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldlan
  34. Orchestras agree they need to better reflect the communities they serve so that more audiences — especially those historically underrepresented in concert halls — will feel welcome.

    Just triple or quadruple the number of percussion instruments in the orchestra.

    • Replies: @Marat
  35. Orchestras are something black people don’t like nor are they drawn to.
    How many blacks are in a typical audience attending Orchestra event?

    • Replies: @Anon
  36. @Non PC Infidel

    Good, hopefully some family members of the senior abused will get some axe handles and dispense real justice.

  37. @Non PC Infidel

    As I’ve said in reply to other similar articles, if it was MY relative…..

    • Agree: Sick 'n Tired
    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
  38. There is an incredible demand for tedious practice on most classical insturments as applied to classical music. Blacks don’t do homework, that’s no secret. They are fine with playing hours a day (jazz etc) but will not or cannot do the tedious.
    They army demonstrated though their extensive century long IQ testing that below IQ 92 there is no ability to incorporate learning though the written page. It must be verbal or it is not going to stick.
    The final result is that very few blacks, even with the talent to do so, can become professional classical musicians. Not that they want to.

  39. loren says:

    how am I a troll? wht.

  40. I don’t recall seeing much diversity in Count Basie’s orchestra or Dizzy Gillespie’s crew either.

  41. possumman says:

    Should be a period after “read.”

    • LOL: Trevor
    • Replies: @Lancelot_Link
  42. possumman says:

    Will they be playing “first hollow log” or “first shaking skull on a sick”

  43. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    The Soulful Symphony. Baltimore Maryland. It exists. Videos on YouTube

    • Replies: @Lancelot_Link
  44. Jiminy says:

    You only have to ask how many orcestras are there in Africa? But I don’t know if it’s really possible for a symphony orchestra to play wrap.

    • LOL: Bite Moi
    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  45. Howa.308 says: • Website

    I think we passed the halfway point when cops started taking a knee to the knee grow. Just a matter of time now. Anybody really think the red wave us coming this November? They stole a presidential election. Congressional elections are appetizers for the left now. I’m just guessing after they steal those in 5 months all hell is gonna break loose.

  46. Howa.308 says: • Website

    Any and everything EXCEPT pro and college sports. I’m not sure there’s ever been a beaner cornerback. Quick way to shut down any lefty arguing for diversity in any field is to ask them if that applies to pro sports as well.

    • Agree: usNthem
  47. This story is part of our focus on solutions put forward to tackle big and small social problems in our communities. Our evidence-based reporting

    Evidence based reporting? Thanks for the laugh.

    Yea I’m sure you will look at all relevant evidence.

    He also believes orchestras are missing out by focusing mainly on how musicians sound.

    Yes well that is because it is everything. That is why people pay to listen to them. They can get mediocre sound by visiting a community college orchestra at a fraction of the price.

    I really don’t care if these moron upper-middle class meddlers ruin the orchestra.

    If these idiots think Whites will pay for \$100 tickets and \$9 drinks to see an affirmative action orchestra then go ahead. Blow it up. Another homage of ruins to your great lie of race not existing.

    Dot the landscape with abandoned malls, museums and auditoriums.

    Maybe at some point the masses will realize that these egalitarian meddlers are clueless dolts that can’t face reality.

  48. AnalogMan says:
    @Flipped lid

    What is it with the trend to write in hieroglyphics? White people have had literacy for literally years, now. Flaunt it.

  49. After the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in 2020, U.S. orchestras responded to calls for action by featuring more composers of color and bringing in more diverse guest conductors and soloists than ever.

    If only George Floyd, the aspiring orchestral composer-conductor, had received the support he was due for his creative genius “the requisite amount of black faces” would have been achieved by now.

  50. @Anonymous

    Who needs music? Is there nothing creepier than a wax museum? Perhaps!
    Notice the 400 year history of the Atlantic slave tradeoff they preach!

    Where We Are Presently

    The renovated firehouse, a Victorian Mansion, and two former apartment dwellings provide nearly 30,000 square feet of exhibit and office space. Over 100 wax figures and scenes, a full model slave ship exhibit telling the powerful 400 year history of the Atlantic Slave Trade, a compelling exhibit on the role of youth in making history, a Maryland room highlighting the contributions of outstanding Marylanders to African American history, a gift shop, and a mini auditorium for lectures, films, and dramatic presentations are some of the major cultural features of the museum.

    • Replies: @loren
  51. @Cpl Willis Daughtry

    “Border”…not “boarder”

    • Thanks: Mr. Rational
  52. Trevor says:

    WRT orchestras being mostly white, how about all the entities that are mostly black? I do not have to list them for this audience.

    A frequent observation is all the blacks in commercials, movies, and other media.

    But what is really beginning to bother me is the illustrations of people in emails, websites, and other customer-facing material from companies that I do business with.

    The Best Buy website, for example, has an ugly female black with an afro hairhead. Almost always if there is only one person it is a black.

    If there are two or more individuals portrayed, at least one will virtually ALWAYS be black. Sometimes often they are mostly black or all black.

    This is true of all companies, so one can’t boycott any of them. Banks/credit cards, Best Buy and other retailers including Amazon, insurance companies, Verizon and other mobile providers, all organizations including AARP – every entity that gets my money does this now.

    • Agree: AR in Illinois, Piglet
  53. @Trevor

    The Best Buy website, for example, has an ugly female black with an afro hairhead.

    There’s a company that advertises on Gab.  Their ad has a sofa with a homely White woman holding a White baby, a cat, a dog, and a black man sitting next to her on her right.

    Needless to say, I am never going to patronize this company.  I was tempted to name it, but I won’t give them any free advertising.

    • Replies: @loren
  54. Bite Moi says:

    Jimmy———–“But i don’t know if it’s really possible for a symphony orchestra to play wrap.” Wrap???
    Boy u so White u glow inna dark.

  55. @james wilson

    There is an incredible demand for tedious practice on most classical insturments as applied to classical music. Blacks don’t do homework, that’s no secret. They are fine with playing hours a day (jazz etc) but will not or cannot do the tedious.

    How many orchestras will (or can afford to) hire someone who can’t read sheet music?

  56. loren says:

    The Best Buy website, for example, has an ugly female black with an afro hairhead.

    Almost always if there is only one person it is a black………………………..hat u mean???

    the ads on utube are insulting. so many blacks so little time [30 seconds to push].

  57. @AR in Illinois

    I’m with ya. Even if I had to invest a year as a stalker.

  58. In Ohio says:

    Playing a musical instrument at a high level of proficiency is one of those things you can`t fake. Either you can, or you can’t.

    This is where liberal’s favorite past time, forced diversity, hits a brick wall. Actual proficiency. This is why most diversity hires get stuck in HR departments or other do nothing, make work jobs.

    A prime example is the White House`s new nappy headed press secretary, whose sole “qualification” is being black. But now that she`s on the spot and has to answer real questions, sounds like a fucking moron. Because just being black was always enough to get by, until they actually needed results.

    Stay alert, stay alive.

    • Agree: usNthem, AR in Illinois
    • Replies: @Detroit Refugee
  59. @Trevor

    There was/is a point of view in the advertising community that to generate any emotion, good or bad, got more attention to the ad than no emotion at all.

    The ridiculous black pandering certainly would fit that template.

    In my case I plan to spend nothing or at least as little as possible with any company that does this.

    If they want to anger me, they are doing an outstanding job of it!

  60. Just noticed: The conductor looks like a midget.😮

  61. magilla says:

    When this crap is published, search for lyrics and publish them. These “artists” are misogynistic, violent, sexually retarded pieces of trash, and their deaths should be celebrated.

    Search for and post their lyrics far and wide.

    • Agree: loren
    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  62. @loren

    Not going to.  No free advertising, remember?

  63. loren says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Some posted here, some days back, the nasty ads can be traced to the ad companies and the employees can be doxxed.


  64. Fuzzbaby says:

    This reminds me of what I saw on CNBC’s Mad Money show last week when a white CEO was proudly touting his diverse workforce explaining enthusiastically to Jim Cramer his plan to increase diverse hires and how much better and competitive his company will be in the future because of all these non-white workers.

    These diversity hires are undoubtedly a stark contrast to the customers who buy his product and the shareholders that hold the vast majority of company stock.

  65. Past a point, you just can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.

    As I discussed elsewhere, my daughter’s English Department graduating class consisted mostly of women, had a very substantial Asian contingent, and was nearly half Hispanic — but there were still almost no blacks.

    As long as there’s any weight placed on actual performance at all, it just can’t be done.

  66. @In Ohio

    Either you can. Or you can’t.

    Soon as I leave this site, I’m going for my ’84 Flying V. It’s calling from across the room.

  67. Bite Moi says:

    magilla———–I agree with most of your post. However,i have worked around enough females to be entitled to form a few misogynistic opinions.

  68. Marat says:
    @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Next will come the claim that playing certain works are hurtful and harmful. On and on, until all aspects of culture and civilization are reduced to the lowest common denominator.

  69. Anon[122] • Disclaimer says:

    Baseball too.

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