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The February outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine conflict has obviously been a disaster for the world, greatly raising the risk of nuclear war and producing tremendous disruptions in the global economy. But it also provided a personal silver lining given that the bitter vaccination controversy seems to have been largely pushed aside. For more than a year, throngs of agitated anti-vaxxers had greatly irritated me, burdening our alternative media website with their views, but the overwhelming recent focus on foreign policy issues has largely eliminated that problem.

Anti-vaxxers come in a wide variety of different types, and I’d be the first to acknowledge that some of their arguments seem perfectly reasonable. The Covid vaccines were rushed into production without the usual lengthy testing period and the most popular versions used in the West rely upon an innovative new mRNA technology, so it seems quite plausible that the negative side effects have been far greater than from our annual flu shots. Billions around the world have now been vaccinated for Covid, and I would hardly be surprised if many, many tens of thousands have died as a consequence. But such losses would represent merely a tiny sliver of the 15 or 20 million killed by the disease itself, and if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness, the cost-benefit ratio is tremendously positive, at least for individuals who are middle-aged or older.

Almost a year ago, I gave a lengthy interview to Mike Whitney in which I denounced the tremendous crackpottery of the anti-Vaxx movement:

Two additional columns on the same subject followed, altogether provoking some 4,600 comments totaling 850,000 words, with the overwhelming majority of these remarks being intensely hostile to my position.

However, none of my own views were changed. I’d never known or cared anything about vaccinations, but as I rather sarcastically explained in one of my comments, the decisions of others in the real world led me to draw some plausible inferences:

According to the newspapers this morning, Goldman Sachs has now required all its employees to get vaxxed before they’re allowing to work in the office, a requirement that presumably will include all their upper-ranking executives. I’d expect this sort of policy will soon be followed by almost every other major Wall Street firm.

So apparently the diabolical plot by our ruling elites to exterminate themselves is now moving forward at a good pace. People won’t be able to keep complaining about Wall Street once almost all the Wall Streeters have vaxxed themselves to death.

If only our top financial executives had been shrewd enough to take their personal health tips from random eccentrics ranting on home-made videos rather than paying top-dollar for the private services of their ultra-elite personal physicians, they would have managed to avoid this grim fate.

 

The overwhelming media shift from public health to foreign policy has probably left many anti-vaxxers desperate to regain the attention they once enjoyed, and they may have greatly increased the extremism of their rhetoric in hopes of achieving this. For example, an eccentric scientist named Dr. David Martin has long been a prominent figure in the Covid anti-vaxxing movement, with his public statements and video presentations widely cited and promoted by activists despite their heavy suppression on media platforms, and a popular podcaster recently vouched for his considerable credibility in those circles when I questioned it.

In an hour-long interview a couple of weeks ago, Martin described the Covid vaccines as “bioweapons” and predicted that over the next few years 700 million people worldwide would die from vaxxing, including 75 to 100 million Americans, roughly one-quarter to one-third of our entire population:

Some of his quoted statements were exceptionally heated, demanding Nuremberg trials for the pro-vaxxers, whom he condemned as worse than Nazi war criminals:

…the CV19 vaccines are “bioweapons.” Big Pharma and the government knew it and also knew it would cause massive deaths and permanent injuries…The fact of the matter is the injections are an act of bioweapons and bioterrorism…How many will die from the CV19 bioweapons?…By their own estimate, they are looking for 700 million people globally, and that would put the U.S. participation in that of the injected population as 75 million to 100 million people…the fewer recipients of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the better. Not surprisingly, the recommendation was people over the age of 65 were the first ones to get injected…this is far worse” than the Nuremberg trials of Nazis after WWII…I would say the Nazis were better than the people who are doing this….The real question is why did American citizens develop a weapon to kill Americans and get paid to do it?

Perhaps Martin is correct and up to 100 million Americas will soon be dead from their vaxxing, so his extremely harsh words for those responsible might be warranted, but I see no statistical evidence supporting that dire prediction.

If the Covid vaccines were actually so deadly that one-third of our entire population is now doomed, we would surely expect the last year or two of massive vaxxing and boosting to have produced a huge rise in American deaths. Yet instead, the official total of American monthly deaths has actually recently fallen, now dropping back to below the levels of early 2020, just prior to onset of the Covid epidemic:

I had already discussed some of these issues in a January article:

Nearly all the anecdotal cases of vaxxing deaths involve fatal heart attacks or strokes, and our vaccination drive began at the very end of 2020. So comparing that year’s fatality categories with those of 2021 might reveal an important pattern. The CDC aggregates such mortality statistics and I found some of them in the table of a 2021 JAMA publication:

Apparently there was a significant jump in heart disease deaths during 2020, rising by about 5% or 30,000 from the 2019 figure, while stroke deaths increased by 9,000 or 6%. Since the vaccination drive hadn’t yet begun, it could not have been responsible, so the most likely explanation was that patients avoided medical treatment for fear of Covid, or perhaps that over-burdened hospitals were unable to provide their usual level of care.

My article had noted that although the separate mortality statistics had historically been provided annually, the Covid epidemic led the government to begin producing them on a monthly basis for release by the CDC, and I located a useful chart on the Health System Tracker website summarizing these. Six months of additional data have now greatly strengthened my previous conclusions:

As we can see, there has clearly been no significant rise in fatal strokes or heart attacks since the beginning of our vaccination drive. The Statista website provides this same information in numerical form, and I’ve now updated it to the end of 2021, allowing the pre-vaccination and post-vaccination periods to be compared:

MonthStrokeHeart AttackMonthStrokeHeart Attack
Jan-214872,330
Feb-214692,219
Mar-204432,119Mar-214452,068
Apr-204512,332Apr-214361,629
May-204152,019May-214231,978
Jun-204111,957Jun-214141,978
Jul-204162,034Jul-214221,970
Aug-204262,010Aug-214282,066
Sep-204261,983Sep-214392,079
Oct-204362,022Oct-214462,079
Nov-204532,150Nov-214632,137
Dec-204882,310Dec-214762,241

Combining these two mortality categories, the average daily deaths for March to December were 2,530 during 2020 and 2,499 during 2021, representing a decline of about 1%. So America’s overall rate of fatal strokes and heart attacks very slightly declined after the vaccination drive began.

Compare these extremely slight changes in heart attacks or strokes with the enormous increase in overall death rate after the Covid epidemic reached our country in 2021 as recorded by the CDC:

YearTotal Deaths
20142,626,418
20152,712,630
20162,744,248
20172,813,503
20182,839,205
20192,854,838
20203,390,079
20213,471,557

So total deaths in America rose by over a half million from 2019 to 2020, with the 2021 figures being even higher. This suggests that the Covid epidemic was responsible for well over a million additional American deaths during 2020-2021, compared to no noticeable rise in fatal strokes or heart attacks since the start of America’s massive vaccination drive.

 

When I’ve brought these discordant facts to the attention of my anti-vaxxer interlocutors, they’re sometimes rejected our government mortality data as entirely fraudulent. They claim that huge numbers of Americans are indeed currently dying from the vaccines, but this grim reality is being concealed by our dishonest officials at the CDC.

I suppose that’s possible, but if all our government statistics regarding total American deaths must be disregarded, surely the same applies to birth rates and the raw population figures of the US Census and their racial subtotals. So perhaps America’s true population is only 200 million rather than the 330 million we are led to believe. Maybe 40% of Americans are black rather than merely 12%, a possibility that would certainly be suggested by the coverage of the Arts section of my morning New York Times during the last couple of years.

Disputing official mortality or population figures is hardly confined to anti-vaxxers. For example, some of the commenters on my website are die-hard Maoists, who fervently deny the reality of the gigantic famine produced by Mao’s Great Leap Forward, which most historians believe took perhaps 35 million lives during 1959-1961. When they’ve argued that the alleged famine was merely Western propaganda concocted by the CIA, I’ve pointed out that if you look at China’s 1982 population pyramid, you see a gigantic “hole” around the time of those events, suggesting that many, many millions of children, infants, and newborns must have died of starvation, while fertility rates also dropped to very low levels for similar reasons.

China population pyramid as of 3rd National Census day on July 1, 1982
China population pyramid as of 3rd National Census day on July 1, 1982

The pro-Maoist response to this evidence has been to claim that all the official Chinese population statistics for the last few decades have been fraudulent, concocted by the PRC government in order to pretend that China had suffered an enormous famine during those years. But if the figures from China’s population census are actually fake, how can we believe any of the other official statistics from the world’s largest country? Surely economic statistics are far more easily manipulated by a dishonest government than the simple size of the national population.

 

Moreover, our own die-hard anti-vaxxers are faced with additional logical difficulties. Unlike their Maoist counterparts, they must also explain why virtually every other country in the world has roughly the same view of the Covid epidemic and the vaxxing issue as do our own leaders in DC.

For nearly five months, America and its NATO allies have been supporting Ukraine in what amounts to a deadly proxy war against Russia. We have seized \$300 billion in Russian government wealth, our military commanders have bragged of their role in killing Russian generals, and prominent senators have called for the assassination of Russian President Vladimir Putin. We have never been closer to the brink of World War III.

Yet despite operating on the very edge of a global nuclear holocaust, the Russian and American governments have still maintained quite similar views on Covid and vaxxing, as have the leaders of China, Iran, Israel, and every other mutually-hostile country in the world. Have Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates somehow secretly hypnotized all these different national leaders into such lock-step agreement?

Or take the example of a small but well-run country on the other side of the planet. As an isolated island, New Zealand quickly implemented strong public health measures and a travel quarantine, thereby avoiding any serious Covid outbreak prior to the availability of vaccines. With strong government support, the population has now been overwhelmingly vaxxed with Pfizer, at a rate far higher than that of the U.S. Yet there has been no noticeable rise in the national death rate, an anomaly difficult for the anti-vaxxers to explain. Are the New Zealanders somehow immune to the deadly vaccines that are (secretly) killing such an enormous number of Americans?

A longtime commenter on my website from Iceland has provided very similar evidence.

 

Unfortunately, I think these extremist predictions of hundreds of millions of vaxxing deaths may lead most people to ignore or dismiss far more measured vaxxing criticism. For example, in his outstanding #1 Amazon bestseller, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. persuasively documented the severe corruption in American public health policy over the last few decades, including the blatant malfeasance surrounding the marketing of vaccines.

Medical evidence suggests that younger individuals are relatively immune to the ill-effects of Covid infections, and the massive propaganda campaign to vaccinate them, let alone infants and children, seems very doubtful to me, possibly being based more on ideological or financial considerations than medical needs. The same may be true for vaccination mandates in general.

But this legitimate criticism of the reigning pro-vaxxer extremism is greatly undercut by the wild rhetoric of many anti-vaxxers, whose outrageous claims do a severe disservice to their own cause. Given that pro-vaxxer elements almost totally control the commanding heights of media, politics, academia, and technology, anti-vaxxers can ill afford such public blunders, which serve to sabotage their own campaign. I think many anti-vaxxers are the worst enemies of the anti-vaxxer cause.

 

Taking this argument a step further, I’ve sometimes had my own suspicions about the origins of the entire anti-vaxxer movement, which seemed to suddenly appear from almost nowhere early in 2021. One could easily formulate a “conspiratorial” explanation for its sudden rise.

Consider that according to the official narrative, Covid has now killed at least 15 million people around the world, including more than a million Americans, an unprecedented global public health disaster.

Meanwhile, for well over two years, there’s been almost overwhelming evidence that the Covid outbreak was due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), just as the Iranians had claimed at the time.

All of the very considerable evidence of American guilt was available in the establishment MSM, and therefore could not easily be denied.

So how to conceal these remarkable facts? So long as the MSM itself avoided connecting the dots or considering obvious, logical possibilities, most “respectable” people would never entertain the idea. But there also exist many thousands of determined conspiracy-activists, who are always looking for suspicious examples of governmental criminality, and how could they be diverted? More than a dozen years ago Obama official Cass Sunstein had famously suggested that the best way to defeat “conspiracy theorists” was to have the government or its allies actively promote a wide range of their own conspiratorial theories, especially ridiculous ones, thereby contaminating and discrediting the plausible accusations that they actually feared.

When a mysterious, dangerous virus suddenly struck both China and Iran at the peak of American international hostility toward those countries, the most obvious possibility could best be concealed by releasing a swarm of other theories, mutually contradictory though they might be. Perhaps a Chinese lab accidentally leaked a Covid virus bioweapon or Covid doesn’t exist or viruses don’t exist or Covid isn’t dangerous or Covid vaccines are part of a diabolical plot by Bill Gates to exterminate most of the human race. And sure enough, that plethora of competing conspiratorial notions has completely absorbed the attention of nearly all those conspiratorially-minded individuals who fall outside the ideological mainstream.

As a result, for more than two years social media and podcasts have been awash with almost every possible permutation of Covid conspiracy or anti-vaxxing belief. Yet earlier this year when I began doing video interviews with alternative podcasters presenting the very considerable evidence of an American biowarfare attack, I was surprised to discover that most of them had never previously encountered that obvious scenario.

When obvious ideas about such important matters are suddenly made available for the first time, they may attract large audiences, and my presentations on Rumble have now been viewed well over 700,000 times, including nearly 200,000 views since the beginning of this month.

Perhaps at some point, other writers or podcasters in the alternative media will finally become willing to discuss this important possibility.

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  1. loren says:

    Meanwhile, for well over two years, there’s been almost overwhelming evidence that the Covid outbreak was due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), just as the Iranians had claimed at the time.

    /Perhaps. and why the push to have babies vaxed for this form of the flu? It is lethal for old people.

  2. And so it begins…😆

    • Agree: Charles, littlewing
    • LOL: Truth
  3. For example, some of the commenters on my website are die-hard Maoists, who fervently deny the reality of the gigantic famine produced by Mao’s Great Leap Forward, which most historians believe took perhaps 35 million lives during 1959-1961.

    I’ve seen the same type of denial by die-hard defenders of Stalin that the Ukranians didn’t really experience a Holocaust caused by him. They’re as immune to reason as the types who claim human-caused rises in CO2 aren’t changing climate.

    This essay was pretty good stuff. Might have been better without mention of Kennedy, but at least that part is pretty muted.

    By the bye, Naked Capitalism yesterday had a piece which ought to be interesting to people who live in a reality where Covid is a dangerous disease.

    Vaccines for shingles, measles may protect against severe COVID-19, new research suggests
    https://www.cleveland.com/coronavirus/2022/07/vaccines-for-shingles-measles-may-protect-against-severe-covid-19-new-research-suggests.html

    On my next visit to the doctor I’m going to inquire about the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine. I doubt if I’ve ever had it, and even if I did, a renewal is likely as effective getting another short-term Covid Booster.

  4. Beagle says:

    There was an “anti-vax movement” as far back as 1905. This is proven by Jacobson, made somewhat famous when pundits pushed for mandatory vaccinations the last couple years, a man who’d been previously vaccine injured, refused to take a mandatory vaccine in Massachusetts. His case went to the US Supreme Court (Jacobson v. Mass) which held the state could fine him for refusing.

    Then in 1927, Buck v. Bell upheld forced sterilization in Virginia as part of the eugenics ‘science’ of the day, citing only Jacobson as precedent because bodily autonomy and consent were no longer controlling principles. In its decision the Court famously noted “three generations of imbeciles are enough.”

    The US eugenics program inspired Hitler, per his own statements, who implemented one (with significant help from a few big US foundations) as soon as he became Chancellor in 1933.

  5. JimDandy says:

    Billions around the world have now been vaccinated for Covid, and I would hardly be surprised if many, many tens of thousands have died as a consequence. But such losses would represent merely a tiny sliver of the 15 or 20 million killed by the disease itself.

    1.). How many were killed by and how many were killed with?
    2.) How many more tens of thousands will die in the years to come because they took the vaccine(s) over the past couple years?
    3.) On average, how many more years on earth could those killed by the vaccine have expected, vs. those who died of/with Covid? In other words, is are the vaccines killing a lot of young, healthy people who are at ZERO RISK of dying from Covid?
    4.) Why in God’s name should someone with natural immunity be forced to take a vaccine that you concede might very well be lethal to some?
    5.) Your bottom line seems to be that the vaccine might be a decent treatment for Covid, but it has been shown that the vaccinated do not spread the virus any less than the unvaccinated. So why on earth should a person be FORCED to take these experimental shots?

    Great fan of your work Ron, so when you insist that you don’t really give a hoot about the vaccine, I believe you. I think that revelation undercuts your authority on this particular subject.

  6. g b says:

    Vast majority of those you term as ‘ anti vaxxers ‘ will prefer to be called ‘ safety vaxxers ‘

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  7. I get very angry about the push to jab children who are at zero risk from Covid, but might wind up with severe damage from the jab.

  8. JasonT says:

    Unz says, “If the Covid vaccines were actually so deadly that one-third of our entire population is now doomed, we would surely expect the last year or two of massive vaxxing and boosting to have produced a huge rise in American deaths.”

    The CDC is at the center of the scandal in the U.S. Unz’s reliance in CDC data demonstrates that Unz is either clueless or an accomplice. Insurance companies are reporting the opposite, for example,

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_71473b12-6b1e-11ec-8641-5b2c06725e2c.html

    Unz says, “When I’ve brought these discordant facts to the attention of my anti-vaxxer interlocutors, they’re sometimes rejected our government mortality data as entirely fraudulent. They claim that huge numbers of Americans are indeed currently dying from the vaccines, but this grim reality is being concealed by our dishonest officials at the CDC. … I suppose that’s possible, but if all our government statistics regarding total American deaths must be disregarded, surely the same applies to birth rates and the raw population figures of the US Census and their racial subtotals.”

    This is a straw man. Birth rates and the raw population figures of the US Census and their racial subtotals are unimportant to hiding the crime that is occurring. Governments can report honestly on unimportant issues and be totally honest on other issues. In fact, governments can be full of honest people but report dishonestly on the most important issues because the corrupted ones are deliberately placed where it counts.

    Unz presents many strawmen in this article. For example, the entire discussion of Maoists is a total distraction. Unz states: “Moreover, our own die-hard anti-vaxxers are faced with additional logical difficulties. Unlike their Maoist counterparts, they must also explain why virtually every other country in the world has roughly the same view of the Covid epidemic and the vaxxing issue as do our own leaders in DC.”

    Unz further notes: “For nearly five months, America and its NATO allies have been supporting Ukraine in what amounts to a deadly proxy war against Russia. We have seized \$300 billion in Russian government wealth, our military commanders have bragged of their role in killing Russian generals, and prominent senators have called for the assassination of Russian President Vladimir Putin. We have never been closer to the brink of World War III.”

    This is the plan. ALL governments in the World (after the murder of a few dissenters, notably in Africa), especially in the West, but not limited to the West, have been corrupted by the WEF crowd running this show. New Zealand is not a “small but well-run country on the other side of the planet”. The leaders in New Zealand are graduates of Klaus Schwab’s school of wannabe dictators. Any government statistics coming out of New Zealand also need to be viewed with outright disbelief.

    Unz writes” Consider that according to the official narrative, Covid has now killed at least 15 million people around the world, including more than a million Americans, an unprecedented global public health disaster.”

    Anything that is the “official narrative” must be disbelieved on its face. Our governments have been corrupted. The U.S. government, especially the Deep State, is simply the military arm of the WEF crowd. While the U.S. Deep State most certainly attacked the people of China with poison that Unz claims to be a ‘virus’, this is also just a part of the plan. Divide and conquer is the operative program.

    We are facing an Enemy who has planned these events for millennia. We are in a spiritual battle for our very souls. Each of us may die in the body, but if you want to preserve your soul, you will need to turn yourselves to the Truth.

  9. continuousInsanity derives from cognitive dissonance: Ron Unz : do you for an instant consider the possibility that there is a self-serving dishonesty in those who are promoting the mRNA therapy?
    Ad Hominen & Straw man fallacies that you use in your numerous exhaustive diatribes used to try to fool your readers is really really sad……..the same pathetic folks who killed the buffalo in the Great Plains, small pox blankets to those that had a culture founded on an inexhaustible supply of high quality protein…..Are you in that group, proud of your prowess in participating in the murder of those who can not recognize subterfuge? It is beyond obvious that the Irish famine, Australia & NZ genocide & COVID Halford Mackinder et al are all related as David Martin shows minus the past stories of of the same play! In stead long winded straw man sophistries. Study the people who sell “vaccines”, the Apostles of Malthus, why don’t you?
    Are you going to all that work to defend the indefensible? In the end you must identify with Hunter the “junkie” and the shitting homeless in San Fran…..the egrigors of evil have messed with your ego perhaps. I beg of you do not fail to see, do not gas light! BE REAL!

  10. Charles says:

    As strange as this may seem, I have not been interested in the Covid debates because 1) even if I got it, I was very, very unlikely to die from it, and 2) I decided, being a natural contrarian, not to get an untested, unproven injection. If Ron believes in and has evidence of the efficacy of the (or a) vaccine, so be it. I am an agnostic in Covid matters, but I am a proselytizing believer in the value of his Pravda series and the value of a site where forbidden and all-but-banned books can be read and downloaded. (The possession in any form of Erectus Walks Amongst Us will someday be a criminal offense, I am just saying.)

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  11. One needs to explain the 40%-50% increase in reported deaths unrelated to Covid in the wake of the public health bureaucrats’ panic over the last two years before dismissing the possibility that these increases are not at least partly the result of the recent mRNA “vaccination” programs.

    US insurance companies have reported these increases. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/02/24/life-f24.html.

    So have demographers in the UK https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/science-health/954825/extra-non-covid-deaths-increase.

    Th same phenomenon is being reported in other countries with Covid “vaccine” programs.

    Here’s a good neutral analysis by a respected British epidemiologist: https://youtu.be/7f45S6vmQgA

    Combined with the enormous increase in fatalities reported to the USA’s VAERS after the Covid “vaccination” programs began these phenomena suggest that the mRNA “vaccines” may indeed have caused and continue to cause serious and very concerning increases in mortality.

    BTW, I put “vaccines” and “vaccinations” in quotes because the mRNA “vaccines” are fundamentally different than any previous vaccine, a fact that even CDC has obliquely acknowledged by changing the definition of vaccine on its public websites.

    • Agree: Towey, Dutch Boy
  12. My wife and I have consistently been skeptical of the claimed severity of SARS-CoV-2, so we probably would not have gotten vaccinated if not for the fact that her employer required her to. I went along in solidarity.

    In a comment reply to me, Ron Unz had referred me to his Goldman Sachs comment, and I found his logic inescapable. Moreover, he informed me in a comment that he himself had received the Pfizer vaccine. Taking all that into consideration, my wife and I decided to get the Pfizer and not worry about it.

    Thank you, Ron.

    While there certainly is deception and opportunism evident in our government health agencies and the pharmaceutical giants with whom they are cozy, it is reasonable for a layman and his wife to put at least some stock in the judgement and reasoning of an individual who has applied considerable capability to the study of an issue.

    Nevertheless, I received here some teasing and criticism for basing my decision to some degree in what the masters of the universe at Goldman Sachs were doing and what one exceptional genius editor and writer had chosen to do. Those critics seemed to be saying, “Why trust anything? You can’t know anything, so don’t do anything.”

    Thus the relevance of what Unz mentions here: the Cass Sunstein suggestion of setting loose wild conspiracy theories to cloud people’s judgement so they can’t see or trust what might in fact be true.

    Whether or not that is happening in this case, one does not know, just as I do not know what to think of Ron’s hypothesis that SARS-CoV-2 is an American bioweapon. It really is getting hard to discern real patterns from what I call “squid ink.” So many competing voices and red herrings make it difficult, but I do read and give consideration to what Mr. Unz has to say. I have found it useful, and so far my wife and I are still alive and healthy, Pfizer vaccine and all.

    • Thanks: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @HoHo
  13. JimDandy says:
    @loren

    It’s definitely NOT because the vaccine makers are greed personified, you crazy conspiracy theorist.

    • Replies: @loren
  14. Vasily says:

    The World is clearly and firmly in the grips of a conspiracy that has as one of its main aims an attempt to turn ordinary men and women into gods (in their own minds).

    These men and women are therefore obsessed with ‘beating’ every single facet of the ‘slave driving’ natural order, and replacing it with their own concoctions.

    Attempts to normalise things such as homosexuality, gender fluidity, feminism, etc. is un-controversially part of this conspiracy, as the new ‘gods’ think they’re breaking down the freedom-sapping barriers of heterosexuality, fixed and finite genders, the normal role of males, etc.

    Equally un-controversial is covid’s place in this model. Without a shadow of a doubt, tried and tested (and one might say fixed) medical truths were absolutely demolished, in favour of what was the medical practice equivalent of calling a man a woman, and hoping that honest people wouldn’t notice.

    In other words, covid was nothing more and nothing less than the elites asserting themselves upon the world of science and medicine, in an attempt to make it fit their desires, rather than them having to follow it.

    Once one of the core purposes of the conspiracy is understood – something which is helped by understanding, for one, the history of the philosophical ideas the elites adhere to – it becomes easier to identify what is part of the conspiracy and what is not.

    I believe Ron is ignorant in many respects about what is going on in the world and therefore can’t make all of the connections necessary to form the fullest picture possible.

    What exactly the elites want from injecting everyone with experimental shots, I don’t know, but that’s not to say that something very, very fishy isn’t happening.

    • Agree: KrisP
    • Replies: @Joseph R
  15. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:

    Yet another predictably pro-vaccine response from Ron.
    Like most so called conspiracy theories, the anti-vaxxers will eventually be proved right

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    , @Chester
  16. Jon Chance says: • Website

    It’s all about monopoly.

    What’s the most effective remedy?

    https://stopworldcontrol.com/monopoly

  17. David Icke has some interesting thoughts on covid.

    In his recent book “Perceptions of a Renegade Mind” he points out the we were forced to wear masks because the virus was in the saliva and could be spread by sneezing or coughing or even breathing. So why did the covid test require you let some idiot ram that nasal swab up your nose and practically puncture your brain?. Why couldn’t you just give them a saliva sample and they never touch you.?

    Icke also says there is no covid virus. The elite decided to cull the human race but they were afraid to use an actual pandemic since that could kill them too. So they screamed that there is a deadly virus called covid-19 and put the bioweapon in the phony vaccine and injected that into the little people. Needless to say, NONE of our leaders have gotten the vax though they all say they did.

    • Replies: @Toza
  18. @JimDandy

    Yeah, it’s just one anecdote, but I have a personal example of your (1) from just today, Jim. A friend’s Dad is dying (any day now). He has had Alzheimer’s for a couple of years and was in assisted living. He got severe pains, got tested for Covid-19 as a standard procedure, and was brought to the hospital for both of those reasons (the first because something major was wrong, and the 2nd to prevent contagion in the facility).

    Well, with loads of blood in the stool and urine, he has some major internal problem (possibly cancer), and, well, when you’re 86 and some systems go wrong, lots of more systems go wrong. He has mild pneumonia in both lungs. He is dying, though from whatever internal problem it is. The doctor told my friend that this will be marked a Covid-19 death. There are incentives to do this. In NO WAY is this man’s death DUE TO Covid-19!

    Regarding this:

    … you insist that you don’t really give a hoot about the vaccine, …

    In fairness to Mr. Unz on this one, I believe he meant that he doesn’t give a hoot about his personally taking it or not taking it. That was my take, (take it or leave it, but leave it since they were trying to make it mandatory, just on principle), in fact. That was, until I ran into more and more examples of people I know getting minor and major health problems after one or more of these shots. In the meantime, not only have I not known a soul who has died of the Flu Manchu, I don’t know anyone who KNOWS ANYONE who died from the Flu Manchu.

    I don’t maintain that it’s fake, just that the numbers are bogus. Unlike Ron Unz I don’t believe Government agencies, even when they support my case. For an example of how this seemingly simple “excess death” count can have problems, see Excess Deaths Revisited.

    • Thanks: Mario Partisan
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @UncommonGround
  19. Toza says:

    Ron, if you continue reading the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal on a daily basis, that undermines your credibility, I am sorry. You are intelligent and diligent, but you believe those cheap propaganda outlets.

    • Agree: Pop Warner, Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  20. @Bardon Kaldlan

    Poking the hornet’s nest again. Well, I’m probably not going to participate this time. I just wish Ron would get one of these guys to write something on the subject, and engage with them.
    market-ticker.org/nad
    boriquagato.substack.com
    eugyppius.substack.com
    alexberenson.substack.com
    stevekirsch.substack.com

    • Agree: Crush Limbraw, Mark G.
    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • LOL: Toza
  21. @Bardon Kaldlan

    Indeed, and regarding Mr. Unz’s correct assessment of the truth regarding the extreme stupidity of China’s Chairman Mao and the 30-40 million deaths by starvation, cue Godfrey Roberts in 3 … 2 … 1 ..

  22. @loren

    Ridiculous. It was obvious from the beginning that the policy should have been to recommend that those of retirement age stay at home and shelter in place and take care of them there. Locking down the entire population or (eventually) jabbing children and babies would have been non-starters for honest and competent government officials. I’m over fifty and I haven’t submitted to being injected with that shit, and never will.

    Did you really mean to justify endangering the youngest for the sake of those near the end of their lives?

  23. Mr. Unz sees the news coverage, not the war itself, of course, as a welcome relief from the anti-vax hysteria that he sees. Nah, that Infotainment that started near the beginning of ’22 was a distraction of another sort.

    See, that Ottawa, Ontario trucker protest got the population of non-hysterics around the world excited about finally resisting this Totalitarianism being implemented using the excuse of “Covid-19! The sky is falling!”. (Ron Unz has been very much a part of the latter, sad to say.) This movement could have gone world-wide, so the Globalist elites had to divert attention to “Bad Mr. Putin! The Russkies are going to retake eastern Europe.”

    Hey, I give them credit where it’s due. It has worked on lots of people. I’ve got a neighbor still flying the Ukraine flag on her porch. I doubt she could find the place on the globe.

    • Replies: @Professional Slav
  24. @JimDandy

    Yes, this is the second time I’ve seen Ron Unz admit to not knowing about or caring about the vaccine. It’s puzzling that such a rational person would poo poo concerns about something he hasn’t researched at all.

  25. The pro-vax propaganda this time exceeded even the “Brawndo had electrolytes!”; I even saw one “influencer” telling people that the natural immunity gained after an infection is not better than the immunity triggered by the almighty vaccine!

    For all the advancements in m-RNA and all, the basic principle of vaccination still remains the same – to trigger the immunity in the body. Now, immunity levels vary among the people, and therefore the reactions to the vaccine will also certainly vary; it is really possible for some people to suffer more than others, even fatally. The pro-vax gang suppresses the probability of a vaccine induced reaction, and pretends everything is fine. That is what irritates me.

    Another more fundamental issue is the atrocious decision not to treat the infected people with as many protocols as possible, instead praying for the miraculous vaccine.

  26. Polymath says:

    How good is the evidence that the vaccine has saved millions of lives? Given the changes to the virus we have seen, is there any reason to believe it is still saving lives?

  27. @JimDandy

    He is still going around the fact that this clot-shot was FORCED using unprecedented propaganda campaigns, blackmail, coercion, the threat of employment termination, DENIAL OF MEDICAL SERVICE, etc…

    If this was just another stupid, rushed vax, why all the satanic methods to force the goyim to get jabbed?

    I think the owner of this website received some degree of compensation to play the moderate in this topic, which is to be an enabler of the vax in all practicalities. Maybe he does think that goyim stupid enough to be jabbed deserve to die anyway, so why not get some riposte against the enemies and focus on more important topics, worthy for the non-vaxxed who will survive. In contrast, the low-IQ subhumans will die from Mark of the Beast Alpha v 1.0. This would be consistent with his higher IQ and Intelligence, and his inherent superiority over the masses.

    If this is true, I wish he would come out and say it.

    • Troll: Mark Hunter
  28. MattinLA says:

    You cite figures showing vax rates increased tremendously in 2021, yet simultaneously that official Covid deaths did not decrease at all in 2021. Wouldn’t you concede, then, that the vaccines simply did not work? And as such, that the central anti-vax moral and empirical claim – don’t inject me with useless medicine – has been vindicated?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  29. Thomm says:
    @JimDandy

    I think that revelation undercuts your authority on this particular subject.

    Ron Unz spent two years trying to become a ‘poor man’s Steve Kirsch’ on the subject of Covid, albeit on the other side of the vaccine issue, so effectively a ‘Bizarro-Kirsch’.

    RUnzie Baby has failed in this task, as the narrative that Covid was a bioweapon attack by the US against China is something no one outside of this site, and very few even on this site, consider credible. The evidence Ron Unz has presented has convinced very few people.

    • Agree: Dystopian
  30. Dumbo says:

    This suggests that the Covid epidemic was responsible for well over a million additional American death

    Ron thinks he’s very smart, but he never separates the “Covid epidemic” from the “response to the Covid epidemic”, with its lockdowns, stupid medical interventions, benefits to hospital for “Covid deaths”, economic destruction, etc. The “response to Covid” was the problem mostly, not Covid.

    I haven’t heard Ron utter a single word about “lockdowns”. It’s as if all those disruptive measures didn’t exist or didn’t have any impact on mortality.

    From my own personal experience, far from being a lethal disease, Covid, at least in its current manifestation, but probably from the beginning, is not very serious. Its death toll has been greatly inflated, and, even with such inflation, the average victim is an 82 year old with several co-morbidities. Some bioweapon.

    It was obvious for any idiot that the whole panic about COVID was about approving and selling those mRNA vaccines.

    The vaccine, I don’t know. They are certainly useless. They certainly don’t stop contagion (might even increase it) and as for reducing symptoms — they are so mild at this point, that I doubt the vaccine could make any difference. And you have to take so many jabs and boosters, it’s pointless.

    But I don’t think they are a “genocidal tool”, even though they are not good for you. I think this is the usual divide and conquer, vaxxers vs anti-vaxxers, they want to exacerbate that. That’s why they pushed for those ridiculous vaxx passes and mandates, when at the time most people would have taken it voluntarily.

  31. Petermx says:

    I don’t give much credibility to ignoramuses that interlace everything they say with something about “NAZIS” so I put Dr. David Martin in that category and I don’t need his help. What I know is that very early on there was at least one very effective treatment that the powerful in media, politics and science attacked so that doctors were afraid to prescribe it (and made it illegal in some states), even though the medication was 75 years old, was known to be safe and had been prescribed off label for things until then. “Off label” means the drug was not developed for a particular usage but doctors can prescribe it for something if they think it will work. Doctor’s are trained to know when this is safe to do. The medication is hydroxychloroquine which has been described as a miracle drug. It has been used against malaria since the 1950’s. It turns out it is very effective against Covid-19 too and if not for the corrupt and / or incompetents that now run things one doctor estimated many people would never have died. I watched several doctors, in particular Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale University, an expert in his field call it a “miracle drug” and say many people would have never died if not for the corrupt or incompetent people in charge, including the CDC and Dr. Fauci. Their intense opposition to such a drug should have made anyone suspect but I have people close to me (a scientist) who went much further in school than I did and he also trusts everything the “authorities” say.

    I used to have 100% confidence in American doctors and science and I still have great confidence in individual doctors but they are not in control when they are forbidden from prescribing something. The other reason everybody should be suspicious of American science is its continuous push to have young children vaccinated despite the fact they don’t get Covid-19. It’s not needed but the authorities insist that people must have their children vaccinated. Authorities also insist that people that already had Covid-19 must be vaccinated despite the fact they have natural immunity. Until Covid-19 I was never opposed to vaccines and would sometimes get one but since the corrupt and incompetent handling of Covid-19 I am now suspicious of vaccines. Something else I learned (unrelated to Covid-19) is not to have 100% confidence in your doctor, even though he is the expert. People are not infallible.

    I got Covid-19 and I was in the hospital for 2 weeks and then one week in recovery before I could walk again. I had lost all my strength and couldn’t walk but I had no pain. I received excellent treatment and completely recovered and I now have natural immunity that some doctors say that can last a lifetime. My sister took one of the boosters and got very ill. She said she would no longer take Covid 19 vaccines. Despite this, my younger brother (a scientist) is 100% pro vaccine and pro “Dr. Fauci”. It is interesting how almost every government in the world insisted on the same thing, vaccines, and how incompetently many of them handled things but I think the incompetence is mostly limited to Europe, the USA, Canada and other formerly “White” countries that now make women their defense ministers because they are women and put transexuals in top government positions because they are transexuals. Many all did the exact same thing and behaved in a similar authoritarian manner. They almost acted like a myna bird mimicking someone’s speech and were afraid to listen to their own doctors. Sweden was an exception.

    • Replies: @Dystopian
    , @skrik
  32. mephisto says:
    @loren

    Because babies are future pro-creators. They must be eliminated before reaching sexual maturity.

    Ron Unz: Just because the elites vax themselves does not preclude the fact that the vaccine is meant for depopulate the world. Because the depopulation rate is not 100%, so to make it believable, everyone will have to be vaxxed including low level elites.
    Do you think Rothschild or Soros is vaxxed? or their descendants? Not a chance.

  33. John Wear says:

    Ron Unz writes: “Moreover, our own die-hard anti-vaxxers are faced with additional logical difficulties. Unlike their Maoist counterparts, they must also explain why virtually every other country in the world has roughly the same view of the Covid epidemic and the vaxxing issue as do our own leaders in DC.”

    My response: Some national leaders have contested the official Covid-19 narrative. However, national leaders who contested this narrative, such as Haitian President Jovenel Moise, Tanzanian President John Magufuli, and Burundi President Pierre Nkurunziza, have died at relatively young ages and been replaced by leaders who support the official COVID-19 narrative.

    Tanzanian President John Magufuli made a complete mockery of the Covid-19 testing procedures. Magufuli sent samples from papaya fruit and a goat, using fictitious human names and ages, to a testing lab. These samples tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. This calls into question whether the testing procedures used for Covid-19 have any validity at all.

    • Agree: Bro43rd, Towey
  34. Met a nurse today who just gave up her registration, being she could no longer put up with the medico legal corruption. Met an ICU nurse 9 months ago who did the same thing. 2000 nurses quit during the coercive mandates, the hospitals are still under staffed, I doubt very much those nurses will return to that profession. That’s 10% of the nursing work force in one state alone, the number of nurses fleeing is similar in all states. Are they anti-vaxxers Ron? 95% of people live pay check to pay check.

    In Australia they’re making the nurses sign confidentially agreements not to talk about the adverse affects of the babies being born, to women who are double and triple jabbed. Being that it should be medical in confidence anyway, the health administration are taking extra legal steps to keep a lid on it. Why would they do that Ron?

    Imagine being born with influenza, COVID 19, cardiac inflammation, brain inflammation, and no immune system to speak of. The nurse told me 1000s of babies Australia wide. This is a dreadful rumour now circulating among present and past medicos.

    Myself being a past medico, I can also sadly claim, I witnessed medico legal fraud by the big pharma industry, in the military. Yes, it’s true there is a disgusting culture of silence and worse cover up. This will all be disclosed in the currently running, royal commision into ADF suicides.

    I know Drs who are now attempting to collect the data for the miscarriage epidemic, they themselves are now witnessing. Yes, it’s that horrible.

    I was told by a Dr that we are not going to know the true carnage of these vaccines, technically there gene therapies not vaccines. It’s going to take about 5 years once enough data is collected. It’s not looking good at all. Australia’s stats are bit more reliable, end of Feb 2022 uptick of 20.5% of all deaths. Holly Gee wiz it’s like people’s immune systems are malfunctioning. I wonder why Ron?

    Seen the medicolegal establishment make bullshit diagnosis of SADS, sudden adult death syndrome? The Drs know it’s bullshit, the nurses know it’s bullshit.

    This culture of silence is going to cease to exist soon.

    Give it time Ron, and you will eventually see. Yes, you will be disgusted and feel shame.

  35. Levtraro says:

    My reason for not accepting the invitation to receive the mRNA substances was purely altruistic: other people needed them the most 😉

  36. Mike-SMO says:

    I have a problem with the “Anti-VAXX” label. I have had the current and prior “Flu” shot, as well as the ones for pneumococcus (1 & 2), shingles (chickenpox), etc. I took a pass on the new and untested mRNA COVID shot. My co-morbidities, except for age, have been addressed. Although the mRNA procedures sound “interesting”, prior mRNA products have been withdrawn due to adverse effects. Why do I get lumped into “AntiVAXX” because I don’t want to test a new product that has a worrisome history?

    New drug product introduction has a high failure rate, at best. When the Corona virus was thought to be “drop dead” dangerous, it might have been worth the risk. Currently, the risk from the various vaccines is greater than the risk from the Corona disease. To me, it ain’t worth the gamble.

    The decision about this product is made more difficult since the US agencies are burying the risk of Corona infection amid the known risks of co-morbidities (vascular disease, obesity & Type 2 Diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, etc) in individuals as “snot positive” “cases”. The “Conspiracy” folks would have no traction, if there was real data available. That takes time, so since the disease is no worse than what the kids brought home from school, I see no reason to be a guinea pig.

    Your lumping everyone into “Anti-VAXX” does your discussion a great disservice.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Copperhead
  37. @JimDandy

    1. Most ‘killed with’ deaths were likely hastened by pathophysiological damage Covid caused. So years of life lost was non-zero for both ‘killed with’ and ‘killed by’ categories. The number of years lost is different for each individual, so the distinction between those two categories is not as meaningful as you think, except in a minority of cases where presence of SARS-COV-2 was purely incidental.

    2. We will never know. But most of the vaccine damage should be immediate / short-term. If excess deaths haven’t shot up in the first 12 months, they are unlike to do so in next 3-5 years.

    3. Even if vaccines are killing a relatively younger cohort, the total number of years saved by vaccines should be net positive just because of two orders of magnitude difference in fatality frequencies. Also Ron is against vaccinating younger population en masse. For many young healthy individuals, vaccination is net negative. I don’t think Ron disagrees with that.

    4. They should not be. I am naturally immune. Delta was a moderate beast which I survived during the summer of 2021. I am 49, unvaccinated and am not planning on taking one now. I may have to lose my current job because of that decision. But again, I don’t think Ron disagrees with naturally immune skipping vaccines.

    5. Ron does not support vaccine mandates.

    So I think you two are more aligned than you think.

    One point Ron did not mention about fake conspiracy theories such as — 1) Wuhan lab origin, 2) Covid is just flu 3) there is no virus and 4) vaccination-as-a-bioweapon causing mass de-population is that there is a large overlap between “right-wing” media and personalities that were favorable to QAnon conspiracies and the media where these four fake Covid theories are being propagated. That overlap strengthens Ron’s argument, in my opinion.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    , @Anon
    , @emersonreturn
  38. Hi, Mr Unz, regarding the death toll of the great leap forward, it’s not an exaggeration that the 30 millions figure came from the fabrication or miscalculation of those intending to discredit the maoist china by blaming everything bad happening before mao’s death, real or concocted, on mao. In 2021, there is a very thorough book debunking the 30 millions lie published by palgrave macmillan(https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-16-1661-7 中文版:https://books.google.de/books/about/%E6%80%BB%E8%A6%81%E6%9C%89%E4%BA%BA%E8%AF%B4%E5%87%BA%E7%9C%9F%E7%9B%B8.html?id=dGjonQEACAAJ&redir_esc=y). If you are interested in the real history behind the 30 millions figure, I highly recommend you read this book. Here’s the free version: http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=1432BF98C35AD887297D966927F5DFE2

  39. I am not an “anti-vaxxer” by any means but this mRNA shot is injuring and killing people, including 2 in my own family. 1 who had their heart damaged by the shot(s) and the other who developed what is called ‘interstitial lung disease’. I work very closely with the medical industry and am in major hospitals 5 days a week. I hear about the damage these shots are doing on a nearly daily basis, particularly from nurses, including those who themselves have been forced by their hospital network employers to take them. But maybe as in the case of Madelyn Albright, it’s worth it. You want to make an omelette you gottta break a few eggs. 1 interesting thing among many I have learned along the way is that when hospitals say they are ‘full’ of Covid patients, this simply means that the number of beds set aside for Covid are full. It does not mean everyone in those beds is dying and there often are no more than 10-12 beds set aside for Covid in the first place. I do not disagree with everything Mr. Unz points out here but this statement is provably not true –

    “..and if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness..”

    Here are a few examples of the latest on this issue. I could link from a large number of sources but these 3 will suffice –

    https://expose-news.com/2022/07/12/distracted-boris-uk-gov-revealed-vaccinated-highest-covid-death-rate/

    https://granitegrok.com/blog/2022/07/uk-vaccinated-accounted-for-94-of-covid-deaths

    https://granitegrok.com/blog/2021/08/uk-report-vaccinated-account-for-two-thirds-of-all-delta-variant-deaths

    • Agree: Mark Hunter
  40. Dear Ron
    You are not born antivax
    You become because of the changing retorics at the start of the plandemenic.
    The real story will never be told to us and your finding it was a biowar against China and Iran is only part of the story
    Keep searching but People against the covidvacin are not antivaxxers
    They are truthseakers
    But You are a graat help in this
    Thanks

  41. Pascendi says:

    Mr Unz,
    May I ask whether you have been vaccinated against COVID-19 and, if so, which
    vaccine you received?

  42. Precious says:

    Overall death rate is up in the UK, but that isn’t the only thing to look for. Infertility is another, and we are seeing a drop in the birth rate across many countries.

    But I am in agreement with you on the stupidity of vaccinating children for COVID, and in agreement with RFK Jr on why it is being done.

    • Replies: @Truth
  43. meamjojo says:

    A million deaths from/with Covid (per the CDC) over the course of two years may seem like a lot but in percentage terms, it is less than 1/2 of 1% of the population of the USA. It’s essentially a rounding error and not worthy of being scared of. And certainly not worthy of shutting down businesses or the economy over.

    As to Covid being a bioweapon escaped from the lab, I highly doubt this but even if it were true, so what? What do you want to do about it? Have another Congressional investigation? Slap the proverbial knuckles of the American Pentagon/MIC/NSA/CIA and say “don’t do that again”?

  44. Anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    For contrary information about post vaxx death numbers and post vaxx decreasing birthrates, one can check Steve Kirsch’s or Alex Berenson’s Substack pages. Deaths are up about 15% in many heavily vaxxed nations, and births are down. I contest all numbers emanating from the CDC as I think they are very untrustworthy. Dr Robert Malone has a substack page also, and he goes into quite scientific detail about what you can expect to be happening to the vaxxed (whole lotta broken hearts a’ coming).

    If Ron gave broad consideration to these men’s Substack pages, and spent about 2 good afternoons reading their past month’s entries, I bet he would completely change his mind, and definitely not trust “official” data on this matter.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  45. The vaccine subject is tricky (complex).
    Marin Kulldorff and John Ioannidis are pro vaxxers.

    And I must now say: Martin Kuldorff has been a pro-vaxxer. After Omikron, he agreed with Dansih vaccine-consequences-scientist of thirty years Professor Christine Stabell-Benn and asks for a stop of the Covid-vaccination programs with the only exception of those not yet vaccinated and severly ill above 70 (a rather small group indeed).

    This Quatarian study linked below emphazises that natural immunity is widely underestimated in its abbility to ensure immunity against Covid (natural immunity being much better in this regard than the vaccines – all of them…).

    https://hatchardreport.com/is-the-small-kingdom-of-qatar-about-to-change-global-pandemic-policy/

  46. meamjojo says:

    But if the figures from China’s population census are actually fake, how can we believe any of the other official statistics from the world’s largest country?

    Newsflash, we can’t!

  47. eah says:

    The overwhelming media shift from public health to foreign policy has probably left many anti-vaxxers desperate to regain the attention they once enjoyed, and they may have greatly increased the extremism of their rhetoric in hopes of achieving this.

    Unz, one could just as easily suggest it is you who wants media attention for your bioweapon thesis — and no, rhetoric like that of Martin is not anything particularly recent: others have been making similar apocalyptic predictions of vaccine deaths for some time (we’ll see I suppose).

    But that kind of thing is rather low-hanging fruit, so I wouldn’t make it a centerpiece of any tirade against ‘anti-vaxxers’, most of whom just don’t want to be forced into taking the COVID vaccine in order to continue leading their lives as before, for a number of reasons: they see it as unproven, as having potential serious side effects (especially longer term), they don’t think they really need it, and, regarding the entire fear-mongering COVID pandemic narrative, they’re unwilling to submit to coercion, as well as to restrictions on personal freedom, both of which they see as grossly inappropriate, with compliance likely to result in a lot more of the same in the future.

    Dr. Fauci: COVID-19 vaccines don’t protect ‘overly well’ against infection

    • Replies: @eah
  48. eah says:
    @eah

    link

    California still has mask mandates. I haven’t seen liberals be honest and say “we’re going to be doing this for several months a year for the rest of our lives.” If this really continues forever, it will be a turning point in Western civilization. People refuse to see it.

    There’s a lot at stake — some of us don’t want this to be a ‘turning point in Western civilization’ — sadly, at the moment no Western country should really call itself free.

  49. skrik says:

    More than a dozen years ago Obama official Cass Sunstein had famously suggested that the best way to defeat “conspiracy theorists” was to have the government or its allies actively promote a wide range of their own conspiratorial theories, especially ridiculous ones, thereby contaminating and discrediting the plausible accusations that they actually feared

    Fantastic, thanks for that reminder and g’day Mr Unz.

    Note that the FCS of SARS-CoV-2 is a 12-nucleotide ‘off-frame insertion’ [citing Nicholas Wade] and is: “T-CCT-CGG-CGG-GC” then see here [MSH3 Homology] for a good discussion.

    That cite concentrates on the amino acid sequence RRARS, where the FCS is between the R and the S.

    Looks pretty good, BUT: The codons in ENaC-α *do not match* those in the FCS of SARS-CoV-2. A subsidiary posit: That that codon sequence was a) deliberately inserted to cause maximum infectivity *and* b) send a chilling ‘coded’ message to some party. More: The codon mismatch rules out any potential recombination possibility related to ENaC-α.

    Now: Covid virus as bioweapon; my prime-posit has always been that the PRRA polybasic furin cleavage site [FCS] is a damning proof of ‘lab-made.’ Task #1: Find the person/place by whom and where that murderous insertion was made, then arrest the whole of the perpetrator/accessory crew. rgds

  50. meamjojo says:

    The Feds Pile Up Vaccine ‘Adverse Event’ Reports as They Decry Scaremongering Elsewhere
    By Clayton Fox, RealClearInvestigations
    July 14, 2022

    Since the Food and Drug Administration authorized the first vaccines for COVID-19 in late 2020, the government and much of the media have insisted that the medicines developed in record time are safe and effective. Those who raised questions about them have been routinely dismissed as conspiracy theorists.

    And yet an online database co-administered by the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control has compiled more than 1.3 million reports of vaccine-implicated “adverse events” running the gamut from mild to severe, including 29,000 deaths.
    ….
    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/07/14/the_feds_pile_up_vaccine_adverse_event_reports_as_they_decry_scaremongering_elsewhere_841872.html

  51. You’re right about it being an economic weapon against China.

    Question is how long has the USA been using genetically manipulated RNA viral flu as economic weapon?

    I’ve read of a 3 star general admitting as much back in the 1950s maybe 1960, in front of Congress no less. The next day they dragged him off to the mental institution… Subtle warning to other dissenters.

    Sorry I can’t remember his name, nor can I find it on the internet anymore. I did read it many moons ago(nearly 20years ago), when I first researched vaccines in army ect… You might have better luck of finding it Ron? I thought you’d find that tibit of info interesting.

    Ha I had to sign confidentiality agreement for the influenza vaccines. The medical establishment was trying to mandate influenza vaccine back in 2005. They backed off when we pointed out the adjunctant Alum oxide will cause long term side effects of increasing the dementia and Alzheimers in the elderly. What’s happened last 20 years… Yep it dramatically increased along with all the complex alum proteins in people’s brains….

  52. Biff says:
    @JimDandy

    I’ve taken many vaccines over the years because of my many travels, but this:

    4.) Why in God’s name should someone with natural immunity be forced to take a vaccine

    makes everything different.

  53. @Zachary Smith

    The MMR vaccine was the one that started the anti-vaxxers in the first place. Please read widely before opting for it, although the MMR vaccine was never accused of inducing autism in an adult.

    • Agree: Iris
  54. die-hard Maoists, who fervently deny the reality of the gigantic famine produced by Mao’s Great Leap Forward, which most historians believe took perhaps 35 million lives during 1959-1961. When they’ve argued that the alleged famine was merely Western propaganda concocted by the CIA, I’ve pointed out that if you look at China’s 1982 population pyramid, you see a gigantic “hole” around the time of those events, suggesting that many, many millions of children, infants, and newborns must have died of starvation, while fertility rates also dropped to very low levels for similar reasons.

    If any die-hard Maoists exist, it is not they who fervently deny the ‘famine killed 35 million’ story. All sentient beings should deny that silly tale, not least because it is fraudulent prima facie.

    The cover is fraudulent, for God’s sake! The author used an image of a starving girl from a 1942 famine that the US Ambassador to China personally witnessed and recorded.

    The 1959-61 ‘Great Famine’ went entirely unnoticed by our ambassador and our China-wide CIA network, along with a dozen US journalists prowling for sensational stories. Toootally missed the greatest die off in recorded history. Blew right by them.

    Because the author, an avid admirer of Chiang Kaishek, “couldn’t find a famine picture from 1959-61”.

    The book goes down hill from there: https://www.unz.com/article/mao-reconsidered-part-two-whose-famine/

  55. dimples says:

    I fail to see the point of this article, except as perhaps a vehicle for Mr Unz to promote once again his potty biowarfare theory.

    The real crime Mr Unz ignores is the suppression of safe, cheap, off-patent generic repurposed and already approved drugs to actually treat covid instead of relying one hundred percent on the fairly useless vaccines. This is the only pandemic in history in which the medical profession has been brainwashed and coerced into not treating a disease for the direct financial benefit of Big Pharma and Big Hospital.

    If these drugs, which have been suppressed by a variety of methods including fake science, fake trials and overt political and mass media propaganda, had been used then it is likely that most of the 15-20 million victims would not have died. That’s a significant crime, far worse than the relatively trivial numbers who have died or suffered injury from the experimental vaccines.

    • Agree: skrik
  56. roonaldo says:

    Huh, so Mr. Unz celebrates other issues cutting down on traffic from us lunatic antivaxxers by penning a piss-poor piece sure to draw us out. He more likely noticed lagging numbers of replies on many articles and needed to juice things up a notch.

    His standard horseshit excuse of never caring about vaccines is the coward’s way out of engaging the distinguished scientists, physicians, researchers, autopsy specialists, etc., who long ago sounded the alarms.

    He throws a bone out, such as conceding tens of thousands of vaccine deaths, since VAERS and the Eurovigilence files make that obvious to all but the brain-dead, but he hasn’t the guts to take on Dr. Jessica Rose with his purportedly genius-level statistical mind.

    He thinks New Zealand demonstrates jab heaven without mentioning the doctors there raising holy hell about the carnage and their letter demanding that authorities take action to stop the jabs.

    I’m glad he doesn’t agree with jabbing little kids, but again that’s obvious. What’s odd is that it doesn’t piss him off. Nor does the mountainous pile of deaths caused by deliberate withholding of proper medical care and the banning of known efficacious treatments and preventatives. He ho-hums his way through the deaths, injuries and corruption and can only say “Gosh, governments around the world are doing it, so it must be cool.”

    Unlike Mr. Unz, some of us here have a detectable pulse. And we have good evidence and reasons to be angry and demanding of Nuremberg-style justice.

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  57. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:

    1. The flu disappeared
    2. The PRC test doesn’t work.
    3. His death rate table only goes back 8 years. Go back 70 years and get back to me. Omitting the obvious fallacy of not accounting for population increase.
    4. Hospitals are paid, paid, do you hear that, paid, to denominate your cause of death Covid. They do not get paid if it’s a heart attack or cancer.

    There is no such thing as Covid. Period.

  58. How about a comprehensive definition of “anti-vaxer”? And how does each of us, individually, have a responsibility to accommodate the cost/benefit factor our dear leaders have miraculously provided us with? Is bodily autonomy an antiquated idea whose time has passed? Why do you use divisive language (anti) to describe those with views different than yours? To use an old phrase, how about “pro choice”?

    • Agree: Thor Walhovd
  59. Paul2 says:

    Cherry-picking data and leaving out all the evidence for the other side will hardly convince anyone to change opinion.

  60. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:

    I know of a funeral where the governor, in the midst of the Hoax, wore no mask, hugged and kissed and shook hands with everybody. With no fear of cooties. He must know something.

    Look at all of those political celebrities who partied down in crowds of cronies in the midst of the Hoax, unmasked, un-distanced, insouciant.

    Gee, wonder why.

  61. I’d never known or cared anything about vaccinations,

    I take to mean that you also do not care anything about informed consent when vaccine mandates and coercion have swept across the globe.

    Medical evidence suggests that younger individuals are relatively immune to the ill-effects of Covid infections, and the massive propaganda campaign to vaccinate them, let alone infants and children, seems very doubtful to me, possibly being based more on ideological or financial considerations than medical needs. The same may be true for vaccination mandates in general.

    Really? Since this senseless coercion affects hundreds of millions of children, perhaps you could have fit this in on the first page of your essay rather than the seventh?

    p.s. Colossal corporate greed (“financial considerations” per Unz), along with a slightly helpful/slightly harmful inoculation, is the BEST case scenario we can hope for. However, a vast power grab beyond Wall Street is all too obvious and must also be acknowledged. Read: Great malevolence is possible if not probable…

    I regret I agree with Archbishop Vigano.



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  62. But such losses would represent merely a tiny sliver of the 15 or 20 million killed by the disease itself

    Total BS – you still can’t say what the symptoms of this so-called ‘virus’ actually are, beyond just listing various generic symptoms of disease or illness (e.g. a “brain-fog”). There is no way of distinguishing a “Covid death” at autopsy, there are no unique signs which would distinguish it. You are talking BS.

  63. anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:

    Every major claim of mass murder or death / genocide / famine, such as Ron Unz mentions above regarding the Chinese-starving-under-Mao accounts, has notable counter-point literature

    Unz’s own Israel Shamir has published a remarkable essay arguing that the Cambodian Pol Pot genocide is a fake exaggerated narrative
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/18/pol-pot-revisited/

    Shamir has published detailed material here on Unz, with sources saying the Soviet Stalin-gulag death & imprisonment figures are fake, with Soviet archives listing, e.g., about 10 million total arrested during thirty years of Stalin’s rule (The USA arrests 10 million people every single year these days!)
    https://www.unz.com/ishamir/red-zog/

    Canadian Douglas Tottle did a 1987 book denying the ‘Holodomor’, as based on a mish-mash of Hitler-Nazi propaganda plus Hearst media fanatic anti-Bolshevism; Tottle’s ‘Fraud, Famine, and Fascism: The Ukrainian Genocide Myth’, is free online here
    http://www.rationalrevolution.net/special/library/famine.htm

    Here’s a rejection of the Armenian genocide narrative by the Turkish foreign ministry
    http://www.mfa.gov.tr/the-armenian-allegation-of-genocide-the-issue-and-the-facts.en.mfa

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn – openly a fan of Spain’s Franco – is seen by some as a deceiving opportunist with fascist leanings. Solzhenitsyn’s first ‘Stalin gulag’ book in 1962 was sponsored by Khrushchev himself … Solzhenitsyn tasted fame and glory thanks to this, and seeing the West full of ‘Stalin killed tens of millions’ stories, Solzhenitsyn got fabulously rich going along … leading some to argue he is not credible
    http://www.mariosousa.se/LiesconcerningthehistoryoftheSovietUnion.html

    And notably, at least 10 prominent Jews have added to Nazi Holocaust denial claims, including Ron Unz … the list below is in chronological order by birth year

    (1) Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90) aka Joseph G. Burg, who personally interviewed Auschwitz survivors & had his books burned by postwar West Germany
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/09/Josef-Burg.html

    [MORE]

    (2) Guy Dommergue (1924-2013), full name Roger Guy Dommergue Polacco de Menasce, French anti-circumcision activist
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2014/09/Circumcision-Explains-Jewish-Psyche.html

    (3) Bobby Fischer (1943-2008), chess master & USA dissident
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/bobby-fischer-speaks-jews/

    (4) Jacob Cohen (born 1944), his earliest childhood in Morocco

    (5) Robert Litoff (born 1945), Connecticut-born Phi Beta Kappa in psychology
    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=943

    (6) Gerard Menuhin (born 1948), son of the famous violinist
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/11/does-holocaust-denier-book.html

    (7) Nathanael Kapner (born 1950), convert to Orthodox Christianity & prominent web dissident
    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=943

    (8) Norman Finkelstein (born 1954), Princeton PhD & author of ‘The Holocaust Industry’
    http://normanfinkelstein.com/2016/09/04/finkelstein-on-the-new-anti-semitism-and-the-holocaust-industry/

    (9) Ron Keeva Unz (born 1961), running the successful, California-based, conservative Unz Review
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    (10) David Christopher Cole (born 1968), who as ‘David Stein’ made a 1992 video saying Auschwitz was significantly fake



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  64. GoySoy says:

    Unz is now officially on the same degenerate tribeslist with noam chomsky, sean penn, howard stern, gene simmons, jim cramer, bill gates, alan dersowitz etc.

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  65. Tucker says:

    Ron Unz has finally dropped his mask and revealed his true colors.

  66. Ron relies on conventional data sources. As long as these sources are no longer reliable, his arguments become second layer pretensions. These pretensions can go either and all ways, as long and as close as one wants them to massage.

    Suggested answer. Direct and transparent access for all “non qualified” interested parties, individuals, into the data blob referred to, as to any matter of importance. All matters, (including the blob of Ron’s blog’s data, the understanding of Google filters, whether or not decided unilaterally by the “partners”, wether Google or Ron), the individuals and their background of the data analysts, their methods and weighting of the data. The financing of all parties, where the financing originates, the timeline of our institutional and corporate origins. That would be a start.

    Naturally that would mostly take apart journalism, blogging and second tier narratives. No Barrett’s and Ron’s referring to “respected”.

    As to Ukraine, contrarily to major consent, the result of perpetual or at the least for now, drawn out conflict, is a desirable (as to our elites) and intentional effect of the agency of the Western Kabal. As to divide the cake alas the Planet, the World Players, for now China, Russia, and the Kabal at Washington and London, all are on the same plane again as to their intentions. Own the world. The differences are merely who will come to own what/everything. The methods of how seem to be trivially unimportant as to the goal setting.

    As to bio warfare, all three of the above have little qualms. So yes the US might have given birth to C19, but is this the lead to unravel anti-vaxxing? I do not want to fall into the trap of referring to intentionally cooked data, thus i must state explicitly that my remarks are cow-dung seed scoring (with no option than to steer away from the known interested, vested, New York Times et al., official domain pretensions of documentation from the exact same camp of perpetrators).

  67. The jew wants me to take the jewJab and mindlessly believe whatever data (propaganda) the WHO, jewish media, and CDC puts out.

    The jew also wants me to mindlessly believe that Wall Street executives are taking the jewJab. Because they definitely wouldn’t lie.

  68. AnoNZ says:
    @JimDandy

    There’s no doubt some have died as a direct result of vaccination – this is indisputable. As Ron states, this is a tiny percentage of total. In other words, overwhelmingly beneficial.

    OTH – what exactly makes you think the young are immune to SARS2? There is zero evidence supporting this assertion. Every shred of evidence in the public domain indicates SARS2 is dangerous to all humans, just not the acute phase, rather the post acute. SARS2 attacks the human immune system as its capable of binding to and infecting T-cells. Additionally, SARS2 results in T-cell apoptosis (cell suicide). It also results in a plethora of other malaise including but not limited to micro-clots, vascular damage, brain damage, and so on.

    Folks have been lied too alright, about the virus not vaccines. No doubt there’s corruption involved but that’s more likely about more up to date vaccines being withheld for profit only reasons. Big pharma exec’s literally salivating at the profit prospects SARS2 represents.

    Anyone who is stuck on vaccines being the issue of concern has missed a few beats.

    • Troll: Mark Hunter
  69. So total deaths in America rose by over a half million from 2019 to 2020, with the 2021 figures being even higher. This suggests that the Covid epidemic was responsible for well over a million additional American deaths during 2020-2021, compared to no noticeable rise in fatal strokes or heart attacks since the start of America’s massive vaccination drive.

    No it does not. It suggests that more people died during these years than previous years. The cause is unknown. But the obvious major change in American society in these years compared to previous years was a campaign of years-long mass house arrests. Therefore we should assume that these ‘lockdowns’, associated fear campaigns and other State interventions were the cause of the higher death rates. Not a new disease or illness which actually still doesn’t have any definition or identifiable unique signal, meaning there is absolutely no way of identifying it and that it is entirely speculative..

  70. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:

    The so-called “anti-vaxxers” existed more than a century ago. For example see the 1898 book “The Wonderful Century” by Alfred Wallace. He was a highly esteemed scientist of the time; notes below *. The chapter “Vaccination a Delusion” is from page 213 onwards. He thoroughly examines and challenges the common assumptions about the role of vaccination for smallpox, in specific regards to Great Britain.

    It’s available online at
    https://ia802705.us.archive.org/0/items/wonderfulcentury028485mbp/wonderfulcentury028485mbp.pdf

    In other formats via
    https://archive.org/details/wonderfulcentury028485mbp

    * The book’s author: “Alfred Russel Wallace OM FRS (8 January 1823 – 7 November 1913) was a British naturalist, explorer, geographer, anthropologist, biologist and illustrator.[1] He is best known for independently conceiving the theory of evolution through natural selection; his paper on the subject was jointly published with some of Charles Darwin’s writings in 1858.[2] This prompted Darwin to publish On the Origin of Species.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace

  71. @JimDandy

    Well, notwithstanding the gratitude owed to Ron Unz for creating this site, I’ve learnt not to expect from him to ever depart from his obnoxiously obdurate “I am right and you and your facts be damned” attitude.

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  72. Alfred says:

    Mr Unz should go ahead and get his booster.

    Myself, I have not had any vaccination for over 50 years – and I am 72. My friends and colleagues are often less fortunate.

    Surprise. Surprise. A study showing that unvaccinated children need to see a doctor far less often has been retracted. Meanwhile, charlatans like Fauci change their advise several times a year with no consequence. 🙂

    Whenever a new drug is proposed, it is tried out on people with a placebo for half the sample. Why has this process never been done with any vaccine?

    It would be very easy to test vaccines in this way on a city-level. But the corrupt politicians and pharmaceutical companies will not allow anything of the sort.

    New Study Claims Vaccinated Children Appear To Be “Significantly Less Healthy” Than Unvaccinated

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Passing By
    , @MrTea
  73. Alfred says:

    If there is anything that we have learnt in the past 3 years, it is that the medical / pharmaceutical industry is corrupt. Doctors who speak out lose their right to practice medicine.

    Here is another redacted study.

    Relative Incidence of Office Visits and Cumulative Rates of Billed Diagnoses Along the Axis of Vaccination

    Just think how much money is at stake. What a scam!

    • Agree: Passing By
  74. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:

    Regards increased overall mortality after most people were jabbed I’ve seen reports of this for several nations. For example the Australian Death Rate rose 20% in early 2022 after nearly everyone was vaccinated. People dying with covid formed a portion of that. The covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths went “to the moon” after almost everyone was jabbed. The notes below are from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, data release May 25, 2022

    “Provisional Mortality Statistics”

    https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release

    Excerpts:

    “Reference period: Jan – Feb 2022”

    “Key statistics

    * In 2022, there were 29,685 deaths that occurred by 28 February and were registered by 30 April, which is 5,052 (20.5%) more than the historical average …

    * COVID-19 was the fourth most common cause of death certified by a doctor in February following cancer, dementia and ischaemic heart diseases.

    * There was statistically significant excess mortality recorded in the first two months of 2022 …”

    There were increased deaths for …

    Diabetes:
    “There were 859 deaths due to diabetes in January and February 2022, which is 28.0% more [than] the baseline average of 671”

    Dementia:
    “There were 2,662 deaths from dementia, including Alzheimer disease, in January and February 2022, which is 29.3% more than the baseline average of 2,059”

    Cancer:
    “There were 7,961 deaths from cancer in January and February 2022, which is 5.3% higher than the baseline average of 7,559”

    Ischaemic heart disease:
    “2,201 deaths were certified by a doctor as being due to ischaemic heart disease (IHD) in January and February 2022, which is 89 deaths (4.2%) higher than the baseline average”

    And regards the USA this is of interest …

    “Life Insurance Payouts Jumped 163% During First Year Of Vaccine Rollout”
    at https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/5th-largest-us-life-insurer-paid-163-more-working-aged-deaths-2021

    Regards the UK there are numerous reports that refer to morbidity and mortality figures at the site https://expose-news.com in particular referencing UK government data that shows nearly everyone dying with covid has been thoroughly pin-pricked.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Thanks: thotmonger
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  75. Wisenox says:

    The vaccine patents cross the blood brain barrier and install carbon nanotubes, but anti-vaxxers are bad?

    Patent EP3172319B1, for coronavirus in 2015, explains that they use Vaccinia Virus (smallpox) as a vehicle. Monkeypox is now being reported, but anti-vaxxers are bad?
    The Moderna patent uses 2015/0030576: METHODS AND COMPOSITIONS FOR TARGETING AGENTS INTO AND ACROSS THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER to accomplish this. Search the Moderna patent (10703789) for the numbers, see it for yourself.

    A Swedish study showed how the vaccine carries activators for LINE1 reverse transcriptase, which permanently changes the DNA, but anti-vaxxers are bad?
    This happens in the liver, which the patent actually targets using DN/20190192690/]2019/0192690: LIVER SPECIFIC DELIVERY OF MESSENGER RNA, but anti-vaxxers are bad? The Moderna patent is 10703789, look for the patent numbers above, you’ll see it.

    I could go on and on with this stuff, but I’ve made my point.
    Anti-vaxxers are bad if you are woefully uninformed or controlled opposition, but not if you’re one of the people.

    • Agree: Alfred
  76. Oh another interesting point why the medical institutions are so biased against natural immunity.

    After conducting the influenza war game 2005, which the question was, “List the pros and cons of mandating the influenza vaccine, and state whether it should be mandated or not?”.

    Obviously I came down on the side of not mandating. Interesting thing the civilian staff took part as well. Those who were pro natural immunity and pointed out the alum oxide… Well put it this way the boss restructured the business, all these civilians all lost there jobs with no explanation, due to loop hole of restructuring business no reason was needed to get rid of them.

    The nurse I conducted it with she was pro mandate, I asked her why, she said, “I know which way the winds are blowing and I want a promotion.”.

    Truth tellers lose jobs, yes people get promoted. Then squeeze repeat periodically, through all western medical institutions for 20 to 30 years and what do you get?

    The shit show we got now.

    • Agree: Alfred, Dnought
  77. Trumpeter says:

    Just tell me one thing, I will work out the rest myself.

    Ron, how many shots have you had, and how many more do you plan on?

    • Thanks: Greta Handel
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  78. MarkU says:

    Consider that according to the official narrative, Covid has now killed at least 15 million people around the world, including more than a million Americans, an unprecedented global public health disaster

    .

    I wonder how many of those people would actually have died if they had not been denied effective treatment?

    Ivermectin in particular is safe and very cheap and has proven to be very effective in preventing severe symptoms including death. It appears that Ivermectin (and HCQ) were deliberately suppressed in order to allow the authorisation of the pseudo-vaccines. According to some estimates the death toll could have been reduced by about 80%, at least after the facts were known.

    Some countries, including the UK, actually moved Covid infected people from hospitals into care homes, thereby causing the deaths of tens of thousands of elderly people. Can this truly be written off as an innocent mistake? The age and vulnerability profile of Covid victims was already established when this occurred.

    Medical evidence suggests that younger individuals are relatively immune to the ill-effects of Covid infections, and the massive propaganda campaign to vaccinate them, let alone infants and children, seems very doubtful to me, possibly being based more on ideological or financial considerations than medical needs. The same may be true for vaccination mandates in general.

    But this legitimate criticism of the reigning pro-vaxxer extremism is greatly undercut by the wild rhetoric of many anti-vaxxers, whose outrageous claims do a severe disservice to their own cause. Given that pro-vaxxer elements almost totally control the commanding heights of media, politics, academia, and technology, anti-vaxxers can ill afford such public blunders, which serve to sabotage their own campaign. I think many anti-vaxxers are the worst enemies of the anti-vaxxer cause.

    I agree entirely with this section.

    Why the drive to ‘vaccinate’ absolutely everyone? Using experimental technology with no long term testing on literally billions of people at the same time seems insanely irresponsible, particularly when most of them were never at serious risk in the first place. Three reasons come to mind….

    1) Pharmaceutical industry profits
    2) An attempt to eliminate the control group to make long-term ‘vaccine’ damage harder to prove.
    3) The ‘vaccine pass’. A blatant attempt to introduce mandatory ID cards and a step towards the digital ID and a social credit system.

    So where does it end? While the Covid shots are hardly the ‘death jab’ that some people (still) claim them to be, they are still implicated in some quite nasty side effects (even death in some cases) As a once-off risk for the vulnerable there was a good case to be made that they were the lesser danger. It is an entirely different matter when subjecting the healthy to annual or even twice yearly ‘boosters’, potentially for the rest of their lives. The later variants of Covid are simply not dangerous enough to justify the risk in any case.

    One more point, since the ‘vaccines’ do not prevent infection or transmission it is obvious that natural selection alone will render them ineffective in a very short time, in fact that already may have occurred.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  79. Maud'Dib says:

    What about SADS? Sudden Adult Death Syndrome?

  80. There is nothing mysterious about anti-waxxers. Paranoid style of thinking & behavior is usually common in all societies, and especially those prone to irrationality.

    Nothing serious anti-wax in Denmark or similar, more rational & empirically oriented countries.

  81. Thoughts says:

    The vaccine caused EVERYONE to become sick for 1-5 days

    Most of those ‘everyones’ would have been asymptomatic from Covid

    I have yet to meet a vaccinated person who was asymptomatic…whereas anyone in good health that was unvaccinated was asymptomatic

    So…more time was lost due to the vaccine, than to Covid

    The End.

    Good Day Ron Unz and Remember Take your 2nd Booster! (And Another 1-5 days of pain for you!)

    • Replies: @Shafar Nullifidian
  82. Bro43rd says:

    Started our vaccine campaign about the end of 2020 but the death rate continued to go up even though the covid strains were mutating to be less lethal. Might the vaccines be a factor in the 2021 excess death rate rise? Maybe the EDR is going down currently because so many people are no longer getting the latest booster(s).

    OTOH, I remember RU dismissing statistics from India, as they are well known to manipulate the numbers. But US statistics are facts.

  83. Mr Unz has gotten the wrong end of the stick on the lethality of the Covid vaccine.

    In Ireland we have the Central Statistics Office (CSO) which publishes the data on many things but fundamentally what are called the ‘Vital Statistics’, Births, Marriages and Deaths,

    They release these figures every 3 months and they are always two quarters behind, so in June we got the vital statistics for the last quarter of 2021 (Oct, Nov, Dec),

    So now we can compare death rates between 2021 and any other year we wish,

    Deaths were up 16.6% in the last quarter of 2021 comparative to 2020 and indeed they were up 14.9% in the third quarter again comparative to 2020 when this allegedly ‘deadly’ disease was tearing the world apart,

    There is a death notice site here in Ireland called rip.ie, go have a look at it and you cannot miss the amount of people who have ‘died suddenly at home’,

    It seems to me that the numbers are starting to become undeniable and Mr Unz may wish to visit this topic again free from labeling people as anti-vax,

    I’m one of those anti vaxxers who just happens to have had all his normal vaccinations etc throughout my life as indeed have all my children,

    To finish I believe that the deaths that are being caused by the jab will go on for some time under many guises, where I live two neighbours in their sixties have just been diagnosed with bad cancers, both these women are non drinkers, smokers etc and just like that they are in serious trouble,

    All jabbed up to the gills of course.

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter
  84. Weave says:

    Anti vaxxers are “desperate” to get back to the attention they once enjoyed?? Nope. All we wanted was to be left alone.

    On the other hand I see Ron Unz desperate to write about how popular his vaxx articles were pretty much every week.

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  85. @Zachary Smith

    They’re as immune to reason as the types who claim human-caused rises in CO2 aren’t changing climate.

    Ah, yes. We poor wretched ignoramuses that just don’t accept the Climate Gospel as preached by the High Priests of Scientism. We stubbornly cling to things like facts and and data.

    For your perusal. https://realclimatescience.com/

    I know it hurts, but reading data that counters the current narrative can be edifying.

    Cheers!

    And yes, I do realize you were being ironic.

  86. I don’t want to go back and read closely each of these booster columns, where Mr. Unz vents about the Establishment’s suppression of his theories on COVID provenance. Is this

    Taking this a step further, I’ve sometimes had my own suspicions about the origins of the entire anti-vaxxer movement, which seemed to suddenly appear from almost nowhere early in 2021. One could easily formulate a “conspiratorial” explanation for its sudden rise.

    newly added to the mix?

    Meanwhile, under last week’s requel, Mr. Unz ignored several challenging comments and questions, including whether he thinks that those who have so far foregone the shot(s) should now be rolling up our sleeves.

    Many of his readers remain interested in both provenance and the response. But Mr. Unz simply won’t accept that.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  87. Crass says:

    So Dr. David Martin “predicted that over the next few years 700 million people worldwide would die from vaxxing…..”

    He is not the only one. Professor Of Molecular Genetics, Dr. Dolores Cahill at University College Dublin, has predicted that “Everyone Who Has Had An mRNA Injection Will Die Within 3 -5 Years”.

    TheCovid-19 mRNA “Vaccines” have already killed and injured millions around the globe, and the proof is on the The CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database, The UK Yellow Card Scheme mRNA vaccines adverse events database, and the European Medicines Agency EudraVigilance management and analysis system.

    An acronym (that even Ilya Ehrenburg would have been proud of) has now appeared, called (SADS) ‘Sudden arrhythmic death syndrome’ to try and disguise the damage caused by the Covid-19 mRNA ‘Vaccines’.

  88. MA says:

    There is a persian saying
    خشت اول چوں معمار کج
    تا ثریا مے رود ، دیوار کج
    It means ” If the mason lays first brick crooked, the wall may rise to heavens but it will stay crooked”
    Unz bhai( brother) promotes theory of USA lab manufacture and intentional release of SARs CoV-2 virus into China and Iran ( which now also given partial credence : that is USA lab origin, by Jeffery Sachs.
    After that Ron Unz bhai gives credence to the manufaturing and forced vaccination of the planet to ” good intentions” of the same actors and funding parties who engineered virus in first place now only to save the population.
    That is strange to say the least!
    A study just published from Sweden in Science shows that mRNA vaccine for COVID-19 when mixed with human liver cells in vitro were able to
    Reverse transcribe itself and resultant DNA was
    able to insert itself into DNA of human Liver cells
    The manufacturers and CDC and FDA have been denying this all along!!!
    Then the study that 42% young healthy female developed menstrual irregularities after COVID- 19 vaccination.

    As an Infectious diseases physician I can tell you
    All infectious diseases are not created equal and all vaccines are not created equal.
    Please do you due diligence , do not be bothered by the ” anti-Vaxxers” slander of the slanderes be it Ron Bhai!

    • Agree: thotmonger
    • Thanks: Alfred
  89. Boll says:

    Scientific superstition, interpreting the seasonal cold as global pandemic, belief in figures and stories supplied by the Chinese (oh boy) and being suprised by people not willing to get vaccinated – it came out of nowhere (really?). You either protect your investment or you‘re new to the neighbourhood. Or maybe you‘re just making fun of your readers 🙂

  90. SafeNow says:

    “Denial and reaction formation” is a defense mechanism in which an individual refuses to recognize or acknowledge objective facts or experiences; and in fact, might pivot 180 degrees. It is an unconscious process that serves to protect the person from discomfort or anxiety.

    I can understand that many would fall prey to this mechanism, because big pharma was shamelessly egregious in conducting itself in ways that would generate that discomfort and anxiety. For example, although Covid is largely a disease of the elderly – – age 8o or so – – pharma created its test subgroup to consist of about twenty 65-year-olds. This is like going to the Sistine Chapel and not looking up. And then there was that episode in which Pfizer and the CDC said, sure, we will release our trials data, but we need 57 years to get it ready for you. Things like this made me a bit wild-eyed myself, Ron.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  91. Maybe best not to publish my comments as I’m still awaiting for the commision, it ends in 2023.

  92. I just wanted to give you an insight of my experience.

    Apologies for all my extra comments.

    Cheers Ron for you and your news site.

    🙂

  93. Alfred says:


    Meanwhile an unvaccinated tennis player wins at Wimbledon. 🙂

    Novak Djokovic, an UNVACCINATED tennis player winning Wimbleton

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  94. I’m against the vax because the government told me they were going to force me to take it and I’m a free man who doesn’t submit to anyone unwillingly until they have conquered me in literal warfare.

    You got a smartassed jewish argument for that?

    • Agree: Jeffrey Freeman, sulu
    • Replies: @Weave
  95. @Alfred

    Though I may dislike his opinions, I will not second your advice to him. I still wish him to come to sense with regards to covid and not get a booster. It would be a loss for all of us if this site disappeared.

    • Agree: Alfred
  96. Weave says:
    @AbrahamSteinblattbaumstein

    I quit believing in my government many years ago. Any system that would repeatedly re-elect John McCain (may he be rotting in hell) and hail him as a great thinker and good man is irredeemable.

    When this same system wants to force me to put things in my body against my will, I’m out. And lest anyone forget, congress exempted themselves from the mandate.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Harley Rider
  97. @JasonT

    Good rebuttal. It’s hard to trust the arguments of those who endorse the convenient statistics manufactured by certain regimes that have bet their political capital on this exotic virus campaign to eradicate our remaining freedoms via an outrageously coerced vaccination scam. On the other hand, our editor in chief may be taking a preemptive stance to preserve his excellent web site from our ubiquitous corporate-government censorship regime. I think the article flops on all the points your comment raised and many, many more. But it may have been deemed needed to deflect a nuclear option from the powers that be.

  98. Skeptikal says:

    RU goes off the deep end again with his “anti-vaxxer” screed.

    It’s his blog.

    If he wants to use it to promulgate wilful distortions and deliberately twist meanings and make his strawmen “anti-vaxxers” the focus of his ire, it’s his right!

    Kind of a dead end, though.

    Obviously he considers “anti-vaxxers” as the most important group of potential converts to his more serious allegations and hypotheses regarding deliberate bio-warfare.

    Well, he might get more attention from those who question the efficacy and safety of mRNA gene therapy instead of alienating them via the constant irritant and, face it, intentional red flag of his dishonest “anti-vaxxer” terminology.

  99. Since the massive number of human deaths started about the time January 2020 began it’s quite apparent this was all part of the plan. The question is: who’s plan? Was it the little viruses’ plan? Did the covid viruses’ all get together and decide to roll out their brand new deadly disease just as 2020 began? I mean of all years in the history of man they decided on the year 2020?? If anybody believes this was true you have little intelligence. This was clearly a man made decision with a man made bio-weapon with massive promotion from many circles. As for the vaxx shots, they too are and were part of the plan. All involved unless they try to expose this lie have sealed their eternal fates. And once again the so-called return of the covid monster has appeared. I figured they wouldn’t let this die.

  100. Fred777 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    We can’t have children’s future health get in the way of today’s big pharma profits.

  101. @Zachary Smith

    Does that mean that as a measles survivor with lifetime immunity, I have the a natural Covid resistance? As a designated vaccine denying idiot, trying to understand this.

  102. @roonaldo

    Huh, so Mr. Unz celebrates other issues cutting down on traffic from us lunatic antivaxxers by penning a piss-poor piece sure to draw us out. He more likely noticed lagging numbers of replies on many articles and needed to juice things up a notch.

    It also serves to effectively erase some critical comments and questions still up on the chalkboard under last week’s version.

    But we return. He’s stuck, in more ways than one.

  103. @Beagle

    There was an “anti-vax movement” as far back as 1905. This is proven by Jacobson,

    Agree.

    His case went to the US Supreme Court (Jacobson v. Mass) which held the state could fine him for refusing.

    Note that though both Jacobson v. Mass (1905) and Buck v. Bell (1927) remain nominally “good law”, neither one has been explicitly challenged since the subsequent “incorporation” of various Fourteenth Amendment protections, so … maybe we’ll see, I guess.

    • Replies: @Beagle
  104. Levtraro says:
    @roonaldo

    I don’t see grounds for Nuremberg-style justice because people in the West voluntarily walked to their shots.

    Certainly they were coerced with the threat of losing their jobs, being ostracized, quarantined and/or not allowed to travel, but they could’ve just ignored all the threats and remained free of mRNA substances, waiting for better times.

    This vaccination event in the West is as much the product of corrupt and/or stupid politicians and their friends in big pharma as it is the result of people not resisting. It is similar to people walking to vote for charlatans that will quickly betray their campaing promises.

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
    , @roonaldo
  105. MLK says:

    Moreover, our own die-hard anti-vaxxers are faced with additional logical difficulties. Unlike their Maoist counterparts, they must also explain why virtually every other country in the world has roughly the same view of the Covid epidemic and the vaxxing issue as do our own leaders in DC.

    Utter nonsense. Whether borne of ignorance or disingenuousness — likely both, it’s not only untrue that “the world has roughly the same view . . . ,” but expressing a doozie of a global “Everyone Agrees!” on this or anything else can only be explained by this author being free to shoot his mouth off any way he likes in his own publication.

    As I’ve explained previously, Grand Conspiracies aren’t puzzles that can be solved — eventuating in this author’s “Oh, everyone agrees on that. I read it in the New York Times.”

    Nor is the devil in the details where, like here to degree and rapidly like never seen before in human history, is nearly every assertion and statistic affirmed, then debunked, then affirmed again, maybe, by various and sundry official or purportedly trusted sources.

    What’s salient about the Chinese population pyramid chart is its date of publication. Let’s just say that was the height of “mistakes were made by Mao . . . ha, ha, now forget about it and do as the CCP commands.”

    The chart evidences that which could not be hidden from the Chinese population. Which is wholly distinguished from that which may be spoken about, or freely discussed, in CCP China at any period.

    The US is in its Soviet phase when it comes to official statistics. They’re massaged, and release delayed, revised, and sometimes made up out of whole cloth, as has been evident with the Covid from the get-go. Yet, that simply isn’t possible when it comes to All Cause Excess Mortality.

    At least not after some decades have passed, enough time for the “some people made some mistakes” phase.

    • Agree: Ben the Layabout
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @MLK
  106. @loren

    (((They))) gave us 9/11.

    (((They))) gave us Covid-19.

    (((They))) gave us the DEADLY Covid-19 vax.

    Satanic meaning of 9 and 1:

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2020/03/07/the-dirty-secrets-behind-covid-19/

  107. Zumbuddi says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Was the dying man vaxxed?

    If Yes, how can it be known whether Covid virus from not washing his hands, or Covid virus activated by MRNA was cause?

    Will vaxx status be recorded on his death cert., together with “Cause of death = Covid?”

    Are international public health officials gathering that simple data: “was decedent vaccinated (re Covid?”

    If that data is not gathered as vigorously as Death by Covid is gathered, then Ron’ s claim of a comparative “miniscule number” of vaxx deaths is unscientific therefore null.

  108. Emslander says:

    One has to admit that Ron Unz is probably the best classic polemicist of the internet age. I’m nearly exhausted from the march of straw men, deceptive associations, diversions and outright false statements swirled into this essay against who knows what.

    The one area where Mr. Unz plays it straight and gets it correct is his praise for Robert F. Kennedy’s exhaustive exposition of the pharmaceutical abuse of our medical establishment, which includes the very dangerous campaign to solve every known human problem with a “vaccine” regime, whether it’s good for anything or not.

    I recommend a thorough reading of the Kennedy book. It will fully explain the hesitance of many toward the vaccination racket, whether Unz calls them antivaxxers or just plain fools.

  109. Jimmy1969 says:

    A great article. Ron I might add however that your smoke screen thesis is not a novel idea. It has been employed by intelligence agencies and state departments and military strategists for ages. Likewise the first thing a defence lawyer will do is to create ambiguity into the case thus rendering a judge incapable of coming to a definitive conclusion.

    • Agree: Agentinslacks
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  110. Fascinating observation regarding government intentionally spreading anti-vax conspiracies so as to quash the almost certain fact that Covid19 was developed in laboratories as a synthetic chimera for various reasons, primarily as biowar weapon and set of defensive test substances, which is ongoing. That it was employed to devious economic and murderous ends is in my estimation more than plausible. I’d say highly likely, but can’t quantify further than that.

    A data point of my own of zero statistical significance. A former student of mine from a school for gifted adolescents has stayed in touch with me off and on for over fifty years. Without going into details I’ll simply say that I’ve been convinced for years that he works for the government as an informer. He seems to chronically suffer from believing in peculiar notions bordering on the fantastic to ridiculous. But he retains the capacity to reason logically (and write very effective English prose at a professional level; the logical reasoning capacity is good but understanding of science is inadequate) as he did as a student. He’s professes to be an ultra anti-vaxer. I listen to him out of care for our long “friendship” such as it is (if he is a g-man informant my rationalization is that it is better not to antagonize the authorities) and because I myself had a nearly fatal reaction to two Pfizer vaccinations.

    What is striking, given his openess to entertaining unusual ideas and mistrust of authority (possibly a facade), is his stubborn disregard of the idea that viruses are created in labs and for nefarious purposes. I did manage to get him to take it seriously, however grudgingly, after the Nicholas Wade articles in 5/2020. But he is not entirely honest. He harps incessantly on vax conspiracies instead. I repeatedly tried appealing to his sense of ethics, justice etc : “don’t you think releasing whether accidentally or purposely a virus which infects and kills 20 million people is a terrible, sin or crime and at the very least an astonishing instance of criminal negligence?” His response was so bizarre that I’ve ceased to have anything to do with him: “people always die and those people were going to die anyway.” Followed by an even more disqualifying rant useless to repeat.

    It’s the adamance of it that perplexes me. A totally lost individual. If the likelihood of his working for the government or some other organisation is X, then the likelihood of him suffering from a disability of maturity is several factors of X. The likelihood of him being an early internet age pseudo guru who only learns or believes he learns anything in order to impress naive and frankly stupid young women is a certainly. As are the odds that he could take any I’ll considered position on anything and if refuted or challenged adamantly defend it simply because someone was disagreeing with something, however absurd, that he said. That last trait is prolific beyond the commonplace and along with a mammalian nervous system hard wired and inclined to primitive contest, and with hair-trigger timing is something likely, in fact certain, to eternally plague the human condition.

    Your thesis is given less credit and attention than it deserves primarily because of the obvious wide ranging troubles it would cause various authorities were it true, which it either is or is likely to be with a probability too high for comfortable tolerance. The flak you get regarding vaccination is to a large degree a feature of the human ego’s need for attention and primacy. I’m not a professional microbiologist or vaccine specialist, but my sense is that clinical trials for drugs are assigned thorough testing regimens of long duration within a worthy society for very good reason. So the question of these substance’s safety is likely unanswered. The exceeding confidence of some promoters is unsettling. So is the irrationality of a person who overlooks or dismisses the evil of synthetically concocted bioweapons which deployed or not represent to me a great evil, in favor of the idea that vaccines which are indeed not safe for some people are actually part of a scheme to radically depopulate the earth or certain subgroups. They are all things worthy of consideration, but we know for a fact that these recent viruses are products human ingenuity clearly devised in conditions of secrecy. That we know. Else why Jeffrey Sachs and why this in my opinion laughable NYTimes window dressing janitorial job of yesterday?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/15/science/bat-coronavirus-laboratory-experiments.html

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  111. Truth says:
    @Precious

    You may always ask. I would not expect an answer.

  112. big daddy says:

    You can’t deny the VAERS stats that now show a massive current difference in deaths between vaxxed and nonvaxxed.

    Also even if the lockdowns were efficacious the emotional and economic toll on societies was probably worse. Note that the Black Death had seemingly no negative effects upon Western Europe.

  113. @St-Germain

    Agree with and support genocide, human disinfranchisement globally, the construction of dysfunctional, unnatural hybrid society… to pre-empt attack and anticipated attack on a website?

    Wow! thats some really bad math! What happens to the website in such a dyspeptic world!? Who is going to read it…would be capable of reading it in a few years time?

    Seems to me a battle royal to defeat algorithmic attack in attempt to shut down the website would be far more productive of reward than surrender in anticipation of attack. The time would be better spent anticipating the kind and quality of attack to be technologically ready to deal with it

  114. You know how blacks hate the reality of crime statistics that show their disproportionate criminality? Well after they took over Washington DC, they took over control of these kinds of government sponsored stats and they have weaponized them to their benefit. Stop believing in their propagandized statistics.

  115. Rahan says:

    In the name of good faith sportsmanship I’ll take a crack at two important topics raised by Mr. Unz:
    1) Why would globohomo do this to themselves?
    2) Why would the whole world go along with the conspiracy?

    The very nature of these questions reminds us of an important shrinking of certain public mental fields, and them becoming quite crude, primitive even. It should be self-evident to any person of reasonable intelligence, that the choice is never between “it’s either a cartoonish conspiracy, or everything is great”. There is no aspect of social life in which the only choices are a cartoonish conspiracy or everything is great. This is not how reality works.

    There is an enormous spectrum between “cartoonish conspiracy” on the one side, and “everything is OK” on the other. This is where the truth tends to stay hidden. Especially if the two extremes (satanist cannibals vs honky dory) are tied to specific political sides, and by choosing one you signal where you are. Makes things even more ridiculous and unproductive.

    1) Why would globohomo do this to themselves?
    Question: can anybody put a hand on their heart and say “a whole civilization has never been wrong”?
    Question: can anybody put a hand on their heart and say “whole civilizations may have been wrong in the past, but we have evolved beyond this”?
    Question: can anybody put a hand on their heart and say “our civilization may still be prone to mistakes but I guarantee RNA vax tech mandates is not one of them”?

    The usual curve of the rise and fall of a civilization sets off emotional triggers, forcing people to “take a side” and hypnotize themselves into either being the witness of a civilization at its peaks, or of a civilization half an hour away from Mad Max.

    So instead of the single curve, let’s use a sinusoid wave. Instantly defuses the drama. On top of a curve we’ve got say 80% systemic adequacy and 20% systemic inadequacy. At the bottom the values are reversed. Crudely speaking, at top functionality there’s only 1 in 5 chances that any important interaction with the system is dangerous for you. At bottom functionality it’s 4 out of 5.

    Question: can anybody put a hand on their heart and say “we are currently closer to top systemic functionality than to bottom systemic functionality, therefore believing the system is not suicidal.”

    2) Why would the whole world go along with the conspiracy?

    Before the industrial revolution western conquistadores could bend over neolithic tribes in the America, sub-Saharan Africa, and various Pacific islanders. After the industrial revolution, all peer civilizations (Persia, China, Ottoman Empire, Japan, India) became prey. This trauma is still there.

    Even the ones who position themselves as alternative projects, from the soft versions of Hungary and Turkey on one end of the spectrum, to the hard versions of Iran and North Korea on the other, they are all deep down cargo-cultists. They may be skeptical of “surface developments”, but when the question touches upon “civilizational fundamentals” they instantly comply. And western medicine to them is still a civilizational fundament.

    Plus banal world-wide inferiority-complex provincialism “oh look, England and Austria are doing this, it must be the best thing to do, we must hurry!”

    Why does western media hide facts about immigrant crime and gay child abuse? Do they all answer to some center of a conspiracy? No. Those participating are simply automatic drones, translating and enforcing the impulses generated by the civilizational center. If the impulses were the reverse, they would be applying them with equal zeal and efficiency.

    This applies to “surface stuff” where there are huge differences between Korea, Lithuania, and Canada. But on the deeper level this also happens, and on the deeper level of western-centric science cargo-cultism, all three operate along the same values.

    We are a global world and the core civilizational impulses are today generated by the Anglosphere, and to a secondary extent–the Germanic whites of Western Europe. Whatever civilizational impulse they generate, the rest of the world rearranges itself like iron shavings to patterns of magnetic force accommodate it. No global conspiracy necessary.

    In a sane world, each country would have evaluated the data through their national academy of science, duplicated empirically as much data as possible, and then recommendations would be given to parliament. Let’s say a one-month lockdown is announced, and by the end of this month the data is presented to the public.

    Instead, every country simply adapted to the external civilizational impulse. Is that what we’re supposed to do? This is your peer reviewed data? Looks good. We’re in. You think we’re some sort of backward place? Nuts! We’ll vaccinate even more people than you!

    …Just because a huge civilizational event happens spontaneously, does not mean there aren’t dozens of smaller conspiracies attached to it, trying to guide it and milk it to their own perceived benefit.

  116. @Anon

    My suspicious mind tends to make me check surprising information such as you have presented. So I went to the ABS link and my eye lit upon this:

    The SDR in March was 41.0 per 100,000, compared to an average of 41.2 for the same month historically

    .

    Hmm. I await more explanation.

  117. Vidalus says: • Website

    Mr. Unz – Mr. Rockwell’s current essay deserves your attention an comment please. Vidalus Link: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/07/lew-rockwell/death-by-vaccine/

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  118. TKK says:

    Millions of Americans believe that their government is actively trying to murder them with vaccinations disguised as bio-weapons.

    Having close friends I talk with in Turkey, Japan, Indonesia and Portugal on a weekly basis, none of them believe their Government is that demonic.

    Perhaps that is the meat of this matter– not a virus and the non vetted vaccines, and the punishments cruelly doled out to those who bucked it- but that Americans have been so throughly crushed, impoverished and demoralized that they believe the Elites who run the world want to murder them.

    When I watch smirking, repellent Nancy Pelosi, Obamas, Bushes, Clintons, effete snake Lindsay Graham, Jamie Dimon, Robert Kapito- I have nothing but empathy for these views, not hostility or condescending snark.

    • Agree: loren, Jimmy le Blanc
    • Replies: @JackOH
  119. @MLK

    That seems very muddled to me. Are you in fact asserting that a correct pyramid chart for China’s population would be very different? If so, would you care to point to a correct version and provide evidence for what you say is the truth?

    • Replies: @MLK
  120. @St-Germain

    What powers? I see absolutely no advertising so it begs the question as to how this place manages to stay afloat.

  121. BuelahMan says:

    When Ron goes, he goes full tilt:

    But such losses would represent merely a tiny sliver of the 15 or 20 million killed by the disease itself, and if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness, the cost-benefit ratio is tremendously positive, at least for individuals who are middle-aged or older.

    Maybe I need to point this out: most hospitalizations and deaths are the vaccinated and most of those deaths are attributed to the covid fearscam. Is Ron being truthful (but just ignorant)? High IQ people are some of the dumbest. But its them telling us how high the IQ is.

  122. @Charles

    (The possession in any form of Erectus Walks Amongst Us will someday be a criminal offense, I am just saying.)

    If the current barbarians remain in charge that may happen. But they have almost lost all their power now, dependent on propaganda…bought and color-revolutionized governments around the world, on brainwashing lies and massive fear to control populations.

    They are weak and growing weaker by the day. They cannot recruit militaries and police forces like they used to. A lot of so called security forces already recruited may not follow orders to shoot the people anymore. Instead of sitting back and be vaxxed to extinction its time to rise up and remove the defenseless criminals and carry out our own popular RESET…in the interest of the people.

    We have live long and are full of experience. We know the world is full of resources and that a truly human life can be constructed in which the full human potential can be explored…that the world was not made, or has not evolved for a few million Khazarian barbarians alone to plunder to extinction

    Its an opportuity for a new way. We must not let it go by stymied by the lies of major propagandist who have blinded us for a long time now. Its time to move now! Bring the media under popular influence immediately! Arrest the war criminal politicians and dictatoral prime ministers and presidnets robbing the people od natural freedoms enforcing suspect vaxx….

  123. Eireannach says: • Website

    It’s official: Ron Unz is an idiot.

    • Replies: @Agentinslacks
  124. starthorn says:

    All of these discussions veer sharply away from a simple fact: none of these injections are true vaccines. None of them are dead or weakend virus, and none of them prevent infection. Reducing symptoms is a treatment; existing medicines were already doing this.

    • Agree: Emslander
    • Replies: @windwaves
    , @Vasily
  125. @Agentinslacks

    Repeat after me:

    The flak you get regarding vaccination is to a large degree a feature of the human ego’s need for attention and primacy.

    How beautifully ambivalent.

    • Thanks: Agentinslacks
  126. Thirdtwin says:

    When it comes down to it, the jabs are no different than the rest of the under-tested, underperforming, expensive, harmful Big Pharma products riddled with side effects. It’s the mandatory part which is unacceptable and evil. I will not stand in the way of those who wish to consume gas station sushi, but please leave me the f—k alone.

    • Agree: Emslander
  127. A123 says: • Website

    Terms such as Flu Hoaxer and Anti-vaxx make rational discussions very difficult. There is a tiny fringe of Anti-vaxxers who oppose *ALL* vaccines (Polio, Mumps, Rubella, etc.). New and different terminology is required for those who accept vaccines generally & object only to the experimental WUHAN-19 jabs that were rushed to market.

    More accurate names for the two sides (exclusive to Chinese Coronavirus) are:

        • Manda-Vaxx
        • Vaxx-Realist

    Manda-Vaxxers are fundamentally Authoritarian. As a matter of dogma, everyone must receive the experimental vaccine plus unproven boosters. The Shiny Jackboot of government policy must be enthusiastically used to enforce compliance. BigPharma is a key supporter for Manda-Vaxx ideology.

    Vaxx-Realists Follow The Science! They accept the evidence showing strong correlation between WUHAN-19 virus risk, age over 65, and preexisting conditions. Vaxx-Realists grasp that the vaccine/booster regimen makes sense for those at risk and is inappropriate for near zero risk groups (e.g healthy children).

    The Vaxx-Realist position is further supported by the limited effectiveness of the experimental mRNA product marketed by BigPharma. (1)

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and Biden’s chief medical advisor, has finally acknowledged something that many experts and many of us in conservative media have been saying for months now: that the COVID-19 vaccines “don’t protect overly well” against infection.

    “Risk versus Benefit” analysis requires good data about both. Even Dr. Fauci is admitting the Benefits were oversold. BigPharma is now retrenching for an effort at annual booster shots that will contribute substantially to their bottom line.

    Immediate side-effects can include major injury or death, and the Risk probability for those outcomes are uncertain.

    What are the long term risks of experimental mRNA vaccines? There is no way to know until we get there. If there is a reproductive issue, that may not show up in the numbers for a decade or two.

        — Why place children at Risk for negligible benefit? —

    Manda-vaxx authoritarians would sacrifice children on the altar of BigPharma profitability. These are the same government ‘leaders’ who pushed mask mandates of questionable effectiveness.

    Is it unreasonable to suspect that ‘social control’ is another goal of the Manda-vaxx movement?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/07/13/dr-fauci-makes-a-stunning-admission-about-the-covid-vaccines-n1612501

    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @jsm
  128. Ron, after all the junk being thrown at you above this may serve to add an arrow to uour quiver

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/living-with-covid-aint-rosy:-2-steps-forward-more-than-3back/13977610?utm_campaign=abc_radionational&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_radionational

    Dr Norman Swan has become such a public TV and radio guru on the Covid pandemic that his reach has been extended to Canada.

    He interviews a distinguished immunologist who had, after vaccinations, a (second I think) mild case of Covid which had led to cardiomuopathy as an after effect which made him pretty ill. Apparently neither vaccination nor immunity from precious Covid infection prevents a riding chance of suffering cardiac, lung or kidney problems if again infected.

    What I missed was any discussion of antiviral therapy given early after infection.

    The following segment was also Covid related.

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/why-we-need-multiple-covid-vaccinations/13977290?utm_campaign=abc_radionational&utm_content=mail&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_radionational

  129. Dystopian says:
    @loren

    Ron keeps pushing the the western bio attack narrative even though there is overwhelming evidence that the disease was created by a joint effort of numerous governments. Yes the US helped to fund much of the research but the CCP was in it up to their necks. Without the early propaganda from China the plan never would have succeeded here.

    • Agree: Thim
    • Troll: picture111
    • Replies: @picture111
  130. Cowboy says:

    Having just learned that the Chinks own half of Pfizer AND are operating separately as a Chineese company in the good ole USA selling the PCR and antigen tests one wonders what the hell was Pompeo thinking!?

    Did he deliberately release a bio weapon in China so the Chinks could profit from it?

    What the hell is going on, RUnz?

  131. They claim that huge numbers of Americans are indeed currently dying from the vaccines, but this grim reality is being concealed by our dishonest officials at the CDC.

    I am not sure that the dishonesty of CDC officials is a “claim” at this late date. My understanding is that it is not, and that the CDC have openly admitted they lied.

    When Covid hit, the CDC initially insisted that cloth masks were not of any use. Later, they reversed themselves, insisting they were of use. Had they done this on a scientific basis (i.e. they had acquired newer, better knowledge of Covid), the reversal would be understandable, even welcome.

    However, that was not, as I understand it, what happened. Rather, the CDC openly admitted that the reason they told people cloth masks were ineffective was to prevent a run on masks that would mean healthcare workers would run short of them.

    The point being: if the CDC will lie for an ostensibly “good” reason, it will certainly lie for a bad one.

    (Also, that the CDC is an organisation ruled by political considerations, not public healthcare ones.)

    If you want to listen to these folks, fine, but I think the old saw about, “fool me once…” applies here.

    My understanding of cloth masks (by no means complete) is that they do not do anything for the wearer, but do provide a marginal (but not a practical) benefit for those around the wearer (i.e. they reduce transmission by ~2% according to the CDC’s own numbers).

    Rather than debating the vax business, perhaps you could do an in-depth article exploring masks (cloth and N95) and how they do (or do not) work, so that your readers know The Real Deal once and for all.

    (“In-depth” meaning that you would explore both the pros and cons of wearing them.)

    Of all the silliness to come out of this Covid business, the assertion that wearing a bit of cloth on my face everywhere I go is going to help matters is, for me, the absolute worst. Having said that, I am always prepared to accept that I may have gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick and that the bits of cloth do work when it comes to preventing the spread of Covid.

    • Agree: Emslander
    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  132. Alfred says:

    The Mysterious Increase in Demand for Coffins for Young People

    Casket Manufacturer: Coffins for Children Ordered in Bulk, ‘First Time in Over 30 Years’



    Video Link

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  133. Drakejax says:

    As we are already over 100 comments not sure if this was mentioned, but the argument that we do not see current increase in overall all-cause mortality, after substantial rise in same during the pre-vax COVID period, does not prove the vaccines are safe. We should be seeing a comparable decrease in all-cause mortality because COVID essentially killed people in 2020/2021 who mostly were destined to die between then and say 2023. It shaved 1-2 years off old people’s life expectancy so we should have a lowering of all-cause mortality now; but we do not. That delta between the lowering we should see, but don’t, thus constitutes a plausible rise in all-cause mortality possibly from the vax.

    Secondly, look at the age range in all-cause mortality. It appears skewed to younger cohorts (who took the jab and now suffer from it).

    The confound to all of this is the increase in homicides, accidents, drug overdoses, suicides, and consequences of deferred medical services.

    Also, the argument against the vax is two-fold. One is the threat of myocarditis and similar clotting type issues which we may be seeing now in younger cohorts. The other is the damage to immune system from the “immune imprinting” of the vax resulting in serial re-infections as well as susceptibility to other diseases so over time we risk ever-increasing rises in all-cause mortality.

    Bottom line, the mRNA vaccines may have made sense for old people, but not for anyone else. Mandating them for young people is at best ignorant, at worst criminal.

    • Agree: Jim H
  134. @Rahan

    This is terrific! Well on the way to full efficiency in dealing with the issue, appropriating, collecting all the data and approaching it properly….

    which Korea for example lastly…relative to the ‘surface stuff’

    Incorporating the corruption analytically of nationalist elites around the planet who bribed or not, are well aware of whats involved-the likely genocide that is Covid 19 from the Anglosphere, yet are fully participatory in accordance against their own people

    This would delve into the class aspects underpinning the issue fully, promoting popular understanding of a great deal of social dialectics and the potential for popular action in the forms, qavailable options it can take with a view to the creation of forms of popular social organization in popular replacement of capitalism. that would not contain potential to lead to more future social class elitisms ….

    • Thanks: Rahan
  135. Dystopian says:
    @Petermx

    The medical industry has a lot to answer for. They should have opposed the Covid agenda from the beginning but very few did. You are correct about HCQ. My wife and I self medicated with it when we had the Covid and recovered quickly. People I know who went to the hospital suffered for weeks.

    • Thanks: Petermx
  136. gay troll says:

    Does Ron not understand that by the time Pfizer deliberately unblinded their clinical trial, there were already more deaths among the jabbed group than the control group?

    Does Ron not understand that the CDC changed their definition of a vaccine so that they could call the jab a vaccine with a straight face? Does Ron not understand that these “vaccines” only produce short term diminution of severe symptoms? They are incapable of creating herd immunity and individual efficacy may turn negative after 3-6 months? None of the most highly jabbed countries have stopped COVID, and in fact they seem to have the highest COVID case loads. Outside of the USA’s statistical smoke and mirrors, most hospitalized and killed by COVID are jabbed.

    At best we still don’t know the cost/benefit ratio of the jabs. At worst we have been deliberately deceived by the media including nonchalant experimental drug pusher Ron Unz. Depopulation needn’t be the goal here. I suspect the goal of the jab campaign was to force the spike protein to mutate into a different form. I suspect this goal has been accomplished, at a terrible cost.

    We know we have been lied to about the jabs. We also know there is a surge in non COVID mortality. Ron can be coy and speculate that all this excess mortality is actually caused by COVID, yet the real conclusion is that 90% of the deaths attributed to COVID were probably with COVID and not from COVID. Meanwhile the MSM has spun out multiple explanations for rising mortality. It’s a phenomenon in desperate search of an explanation.

    As for the war in Ukraine, it’s an obvious wag the dog moment and Ron’s gratitude that it derailed vaccine discussions on his website is overly on point. If it weren’t for Putin’s SMO, all eyes would have been on the trucker convoy to DC. Ukraine drama continues to bail out the biosecurity hucksters.

    Even if Ron is right, and the emergency use jabs are entirely safe and beneficial, nothing changes the fact that the media and our government lied to us about them and threatened to force them on us. That is a major problem unto itself. Ron does realize he is taking the side of people with zero credibility?

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @thotmonger
  137. Certainly for the vast majority of people, the Covid “vaccine” is a net negative. Even if it’s not as dangerous as many of us believe it is, the institution of frequent mandatory vaccinations leaves governments with the power to implement all sorts of social engineering schemes such as sterilization or the suppression of independent thought.

  138. @Buzz Mohawk

    My wife and I have consistently been skeptical of the claimed severity of SARS-CoV-2, so we probably would not have gotten vaccinated if not for the fact that her employer required her to. I went along in solidarity.

    I am glad you two are alright, Buzz. “Solidarity” is one thing – being nagged is another, and they could be confused, just sayin’.

    In an O/T (sorry!) comment under a recent iSteve post I related this anecdote:

    A friend of mine has a freighter pilot friend whose wife nagged him to get the vaccine. Mind you, it wasn’t that she was so worried about the Kung Flu. The airlines up until the end of last year, including his company, were threatening to fire pilots who did not get the Covid-one-niner vax. It did not get that far with this guy’s (big, 757/767-flying) freight airline, but his wife thought he’d better get this jab before they made him, so he wouldn’t stand out or something.

    He did. He cannot pass the required yearly resting EKG now (tried 5 times). He could before, obviously. He will not be able to fly anymore, it looks like.

    This may not be the biggest of his worries, per my friend. I don’t know about that part – I’m not a cardiologist.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  139. Ron Unz:

    When a mysterious, dangerous virus

    Dangerous for whom?

    The following link gives, according to each comorbidity, the percent of people deceased in France from 1st of March 2020 until the 4th of May 2021:

    https://fr.statista.com/statistiques/1183996/victimes-coronavirus-comorbidite-france/

    46’803 deceased people in hospital.

    Other various statistical data give the median age for deceased people as 83 or 84 yo (France or Geneva).

  140. @Rahan

    Excellent arguments!
    Also remember that the IMF and WHO have put enormous pressure on nations to comply. Not a conspiracy so much as openly acknowledged coercion. Even Sweden, whose anti-lockdown policy proved that lockdowns have no benefit, has knuckled under to some degree of medical fascism.

    • Thanks: Rahan
  141. Jim H says:

    ‘With strong government support, [New Zealand’s] population has now been overwhelmingly vaxxed with Pfizer, at a rate far higher than that of the U.S. Yet there has been no noticeable rise in the national death rate.’ — Ron Unz

    Yet also, New Zealand currently sports a covid case rate of 204 per 100,000, third highest in the world.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html

    How can an injection that so spectacularly fails to protect injectees be called a ‘vaccine’?

    Covid shots do not work. They are crap. They failed.

  142. The antiVax (the reasonable one) are not against people who want to use gene therapy.

    They are against injecting themselves a gene therapy.

    If your vax protects you, why must i vax?

  143. Ron Unz:

    The February outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine conflict has obviously been a disaster for the world, greatly raising the risk of nuclear war and producing tremendous disruptions in the global economy.

    This is one way to see things. I see it otherwise: the disaster (for whom, by the way?) are the sanctions decided by the western countries alone. And it is not a Russia-Ukraine conflict, but a war waged by the nato countries against Russia.

  144. For more than a year, throngs of agitated anti-vaxxers had greatly irritated me, burdening our alternative media website with their views, but the overwhelming recent focus on foreign policy issues has largely eliminated that problem.

    Dude, you really should check your prejudice.

    The actual problem hasn’t gone away – the Russian SMO is just another piece in the puzzle.

    and FWIW, nothwithstanding the risk of wider war, foreign policy is shaping up to be the least of our worries. Observe the present circumstances of Sri Lanka – a trajectory being closely tracked by many supposedly “first world” nations right now, including the USA and most of Europe.

    We do understand that you enjoy your research (as I like to say, let an old man have his fun) but perhaps you’d benefit from occasionally stepping back a few paces and taking in the bigger picture.

    Here’s a small reminder of just one facet of the larger reality



    Video Link

    Just saying.

    • Agree: Olivier1973
  145. Emslander says:
    @A123

    It seems to me that any regime that depends on dehumanizing its dissenters by calling them degrading names is admitting outright that it rests on soft ground.

  146. @Ned The Medic

    I’m out of [Agree]s due to the so many good comments here. I’m replying to yours, Ned, to thank you, and to confirm from our RN in the family* that there is indeed a big shortage now. Not only that, but this family member knows at least one nurse on her floor who was so damaged by the vax that she can’t come to work anymore.

    Now, I will add a point to this comment of mine above. Mr. Unz shows lots of data. I have only written anecdotes (one more to come) here. Does that mean I have no argument against Mr. Unz’s points?

    No, the point of these anecdotes is to show that there is garbage going into the data. You can do all you want look at simple “excess deaths” and that, but if you don’t understand the assumptions, errors, and often deliberate lying that goes into the collection of the data, then your analysis is by definition, pure garbage.

    PS: For Mr. Zumbaddi, I don’t know for sure on that, but I will ask and get back to you.

    .

    * She got a religious waiver.

    • Replies: @Ned The Medic
  147. Treg says:

    Ron reasons for anti vaxxer doubt seems very reasonable, as long as you fly very high up and look down from 50,000 feet.

    But if you fly lower, just above the 1,000 feet VAERs data level, things look very problematic. “all age groups—not just seniors—had a dramatic increase in VAERS death reports…” See lewrockwell’s essay today here: lewrockwell.com

    But then Ron flies even lower into the actual 3 foot weeds-level. His essays on the subject dog down into the idea that covid-19 is an American Fort Derrick created bioweapon that was outsourced to Wuhan and American and the world suffered what Ron Paul would called, BLOWBACK: yes, Blowback from our many disjointed and unfollowed interventionist foreign polices.

    Perhaps the right level is all the levels at once, thus giving us the clearest big picture with the greatest of detail?

    • Replies: @Harry Gonad
  148. MLK says:
    @MLK

    Nobody listens, but here it goes . . .

    Grand Conspiracies are coalitions of the willing and unwilling.

    You first apply common sense. This eliminates movie-style explanations of discrete conspirators, even if globally dispersed. Once in motion, all effect their interests — offense and defense, under the totality of the circumstances.

    We can thus eliminate Trump, and anyone who genuinely wanted him to take the oath again, from the conspiracy. He was to be the dirty dog, with anyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic, benefitting from preventing him from taking the oath again.

    Once the illegitimate Biden was installed — the principal unifying objective achieved, those who were thick as thieves weren’t so thick anymore. Since, China has told everyone what time it is: An American ‘Yeltsin’ is in place and CCP China is in control to a greater degree than the USG had over the Russia in the 90s.

  149. big daddy says:

    Wouldn’t the current VAERS percentages hold also for the lockdown times? I think so.

  150. Ron, it seems strange that a TakiMag author should apparently be ignorant of your preferred theory of Covid origins but here he is

    https://www.takimag.com/article/party-to-a-pandemic/print

    My only new point derived from reading that is to ask why, knowing or suspecting how chaotic American response to Covid 19 would be China might not have done what you accuse American rogue actors of doing. Getting rid of Trump is the motive I derive from the TakiMag article. But more than one motive would be likely and most of the factors you rely on might be explained as applicable to Chinese origination. The military games stands out as cover. Not stopping international flights is another.

  151. The host of this site, a Jewish gatekeeper, continues to out himself, yet many of his readers fail to understand what is in front of their nose. May they all be vaxxed and boosted, especially our host.

  152. JackOH says:
    @TKK

    Americans have been so throughly crushed, impoverished and demoralized that they believe the Elites who run the world want to murder them.

    Comment of the month, sir. Hat’s off.

    I once speculated in a published letter to the editor on the possibility there might be some unknown political driving force to mass shootings. (It might have been around the time of the Las Vegas bump-stock shooting.) I don’t recall my exact wording, but the sense was we ought to think about how our laws, regs, policies, “acceptable” public discourse limits, etc., alienate, disempower, and smother otherwise decent Americans until the pressure needs to somehow be relieved.

    I can sort of see strident anti-mask and anti-vax positions, and–possibly–some mass shootings as a cry to be regarded as a human being again instead of a tax milch cow, or a counter on a politician’s racial or sexual gameboard, or as a cartoon demographic for a Madison Avenue focus group.

    • Thanks: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Greta Handel
  153. The VAERS database has something over a million injuries and 29,000 (as I recall) deaths. One can see that the data being inputted is subject to all sorts of input errors, some that would err toward fewer problems and others toward more. Let me give you the other anecdote.

    A family member – funeral probably tomorrow – was also in her mid-80s. She had had low blood pressure her whole life to the point of some doctors having told her to be careful about that. After the first one or two vaccine does, she was put on high blood pressure medication.

    After the booster shot that she insisted on taking, her heart became weak to something like 30% strength, per the cardiologist.* Of course at that age one likely has a few other problems, but none were near that level of seriousness. This one affected her other organs, and she got much worse within a few months.

    The cardiologist even asked me “Hey, did something happen between a couple of months ago when I saw her and now?” Me: “Look, I’m not trying to get political here, but I’m just telling you she got a Covid booster shot during that time.” He had nothing to say. Will her death get into the VAERS database? No. It’s requires help from doctors who have better things to do, that make money. She would not have wanted us to make this political. AFAIK, she was a proponent of the vax through the end of her life.

  154. @Nervous in Stalingrad

    I am not sure that the dishonesty of CDC officials is a “claim” at this late date. My understanding is that it is not, and that the CDC have openly admitted they lied.

    This is a very good point.

    The lies and fraud are out in the open, in our faces, hidden in plain sight by the controlled media.

    Note the recent revelations of Pfizer’s defence in its latest prosecution for fraudulent promotion of the non-existent “safety and efficiacy” of its fake “vaccines” – “Yeah we committed fraud, but you can’t hold us accountable because the government was in on it!“.

    And let’s not overlook Uruguay’s demand that Pfizer disclose the contents of its fake “vaccines” – and instead, Pfizer preferred to pull completely out of Uruguay and forego billions of dollars of juicy profit! What exactly is in those fake “vaccines” that Pfizer so desperately refuses to reveal?

    Seriously, you can’t make this stuff up – yet Mr. Unz apparently remains oblivious. Is this laser focus on his preferred research, or just plain old tunnel vision?

  155. But such losses would represent merely a tiny sliver of the 15 or 20 million killed by the disease itself

    I do like well done satire.
    Play again soon Ron.

    Those “killed by the disease itself” include the drunk who fell off a ladder three weeks after a “Positive”
    40 cycle RT-PCR test. He was worth about \$30k more to the hospital because of the test result than otherwise.

  156. UNZ says “and if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness, the cost-benefit ratio is tremendously positive, at least for individuals who are middle-aged or older”

    Last week I caught a virus. I was at an event with about 130 people or so and about 3 days later or so my temperature started to rise. I had a fever which lasted about three days and topped out at 102. I also had some body aches in the lower extremities. I could also smell peanut butter. I am not vaccinated and am old (early 70’s) but in very good health since I exercise and watch how much and what I eat. I didn’t go to the hospital or visit a doctor. I even went out side and rode my bike around the neighborhood.
    My wife and son also attended and they are triple vaccinated. They tested positive for Covid but had no fevers and their only symptoms were coughing and runny nose.

    So from my own observations, vaccination did prevent fever. But a reasonably healthy person can survive this covid as I did.

    If people are afraid and/or want to get vaccinated or wear masks, let them.

    My only advice (not covid advice) is for men to not submit to Vasectomies. If your woman doesn’t want anymore children then let her have her tubes tied. You never know if you’ll change your mind later on about having children.

    My advice on Abortion. I am for abortion and against abortion. I am against abortion for my family and relatives and I am for abortion for all others.

    Obesity is the number one epidemic in America. Food industry and medical industry work hand in hand to make huge profits and it will only get worse in America. Food industries and medical industries are one of America’s largest employers. It will not end well.

    • Replies: @Thoughts
  157. @anon

    If and when ” the anti-vaxxers will eventually be proved right” it will almost certainly be the data-driven ones like RFK Jr., not the wild-eyed doomsayers Ron criticizes.

    And it’s the reasonable, data-driven “anti-vaxxers” like Sen. Ron Johnson and his sources who are relatively open to investigating the COVID origins issue along the lines Ron’s work suggests: https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/sen-ron-johnson-takes-aim-at-the-biggest-covid-scandals/

    If the lunatic fringe of the anti-vax movement is running interference for the COVID biowar perps, as Ron suggests, it may also be running interference for Pfizer and Moderna (by discrediting and obfuscating sound research exposing vaccine harm and scientific fraud).

    • Agree: ariadna
  158. RudyM says:

    The FDA gives the Unz Review high marks for being safe and effective.

  159. TKK says:
    @JackOH

    I can sort of see strident anti-mask and anti-vax positions, and–possibly–some mass shootings as a cry to be regarded as a human being again instead of a tax milch cow, or a counter on a politician’s racial or sexual gameboard, or as a cartoon demographic for a Madison Avenue focus group

    This is brilliantly put, and I believe there is a book in there that many would read and revere.

    I recently had some medical appointments and the soul crushing stupid theater of having to wear a mask when talking the physician in the clinical room is hard to describe. I can’t understand him and he doesn’t care. There are signs everywhere: DO NOT TAKE OFF YOUR MASK!

    Then, to be admonished to “pull up my mask over my nose” by an morbidly obese receptionist who is clearly consuming enough calories for a small family makes one understand the rage- simmering below the surface in America life.

    **It also is troubling that Ron Unz believes that the high rollers at Goldman Sachs took the vax. Just google photos of the recent Met Gala where the peasants had to be masked up but the celebrities fawned and posed and preened- maskless and untroubled.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @JackOH
  160. Anon[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimDandy

    Ron can’t respond to this. Nobody can. There is zero medical basis for the passports.

  161. skrik says:
    @Petermx

    It is interesting how almost every government in the world insisted on the same thing, vaccines, and how incompetently many of them handled things but I think the incompetence is mostly limited to Europe, the USA, Canada and other formerly “White” countries that now make women their defense ministers because they are women and put transexuals in top government positions because they are transexuals. Many all did the exact same thing and behaved in a similar authoritarian manner. They almost acted like a myna bird mimicking someone’s speech and were afraid to listen to their own doctors

    Yes. True, amazing but why/how? How did they all [covertly] agree, why did they all go so hideously [not to mention anti-democratically] tyrannical? We now know that the mRNA is at the least ineffective, at worst, criminally damaging, and also ‘yes,’ HCQ and IVM were stupidly, also criminally ‘forbidden.’ And they dare to force their mRNA rubbish onto children, forbidding the minors’ guardians to exercise their previously purported *inalienable* responsibility!

    We do know that [lying!] propaganda works, hence no effective hesitance from ‘the masses’ to the covid-19 scam. But no proper democracy can function when the electorate is deliberately deceived; the so-called ‘leaders’ should all be arrested, tried then when [not if!] found guilty, executed. rgds

    • Thanks: Petermx
  162. Ron Unz:

    Billions around the world have now been vaccinated for Covid, and I would hardly be surprised if many, many tens of thousands have died as a consequence. But such losses would represent merely a tiny sliver of the 15 or 20 million killed by the disease itself, and if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness, the cost-benefit ratio is tremendously positive, at least for individuals who are middle-aged or older.

    15 to 20 millions? It is not what I am reading here:

    https://covid-19-stats.info/en

    By the way, where are the data about the injection deaths? It looks like these injections are killing mostly young people.

    Lies, damned lies, and statistics

  163. Great article, although I disagree with much of Mr. Unz’s conclusions. Unz review is one of the best alternative news sites that presents factual information on both sides of an issue. If our controlled media would present actual news in such an unemotional factual basis, then we wouldn’t need alternative sites. For those who attack Mr. Unz for his views, I would ask how such an attack differs from how our mainstream propaganda machine attacks those who reject the mainstream line?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  164. Harry Gonad says: • Website

    How does Mr. Ronald Unz explain the shocking myocarditis numbers, especially in kids?

    And what about the risk/benefit ratio of the shots and alternatives to the shots that were severely suppressed.

    Mr. Ronald Unz does not mention any of this.

    • Replies: @Agentinslacks
  165. Medical evidence suggests that younger individuals are relatively immune to the ill-effects of Covid infections, and the massive propaganda campaign to vaccinate them, let alone infants and children, seems very doubtful to me, possibly being based more on ideological or financial considerations than medical needs. The same may be true for vaccination mandates in general.

    But this legitimate criticism of the reigning pro-vaxxer extremism is greatly undercut by the wild rhetoric of many anti-vaxxers, whose outrageous claims do a severe disservice to their own cause. Given that pro-vaxxer elements almost totally control the commanding heights of media, politics, academia, and technology, anti-vaxxers can ill afford such public blunders, which serve to sabotage their own campaign. I think many anti-vaxxers are the worst enemies of the anti-vaxxer cause.

    Thank you. My position has been basically this–my kids don’t need it, nor do I, having natural immunity, and these blanket mandates are likely more about greasing palms than medical necessity and thus I refuse to comply. (But I recommended it–and would do so again–to my elderly parents and the like.)

    But trying to explain this to friends and family immediately puts me in the camp, in their minds, of the nuts who insist, e.g., there’s no virus; or there is a virus, but it’s a cold and all the death stats are fake; or the vaccine contains Terminator tendrils that will plasticize you alive; etc.

    AllSoTiresome

    • Agree: Mark G.
  166. Why doesn’t China use vaccines for Covid? Do they know something we don’t know?

    • Replies: @Marcion
    , @Thim
    , @Ron Unz
  167. @Alfred

    SO WHAT’S THE CHOICE THEN: THE GOVERNMENT/OLIGARCHS/ELITES AND THEIR WEALTH – OR THE CHILDREN IN PARTICULAR AND THE REST OF US!?

    THERE IT IS CLEARLY!

    It is time for the ordinary people to move, to rise up and put an and end to the depopulation, the genoocide! The elites are killing EVERYBODY NOW! INCLUDING ORDINARY WHITE PEOPLE! IT IS TIME TO REVOLUTIONIZE SOCIETY GLOBALLY FROM THE GROUP UP! BY THE PEOPLE GOING OUT NOW AND REMOVING THE GOVERNMENTS AND THE OLIGARCHS/ELITES – TAKING THE SOCIAL POWER AWAY FROM THEM AND CREATING NEW FORMS OF SOCIAL ORGANIZATIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE

    The issue in the world, among the population is not race! Never was reace! Race/Racism is a divisive issue, invented to keep ordinary people separated and at each others throats, in full, extreme antagonism and violent hate of each other. That way we do not see what the massive control and exploitation the elites are carrying out on us ALL! Have been carrying out for centuries now!

    But society has evolved to an advanced stage now that makes capitalism obsolete, can’t work anymore to to keep the capitalist eliets in power. The only way the capitalist class can maintain itself is to build a dystopian, technologized, hybridized society with whatever amount of ordianry people they decide they need, and are safe to maintain by them, after getting rid of the rest of us.

    The only way humnaity can progress anymore, go forward, to evolve properly is to take the next social sept by crearing a society that can take care of all the people, with the full stage we have achived so far available to the society…by putting the achived stage, the technology in particular to the use and advantage of society as a whole. This is what China/Russia/Iran have decided to do so far…which is why there is a war between them and the wes currently.

    The arch capitalists, the Khazars, have controlled all the western governments and co-opted, convinced the western populations, especially ordianry white people, that capitalism is great with its supposed democracy ect. But that is a lie everyone can now see, as we can all see the utter failure that the west has devolved into socially. That is because western financial capitalism has utterly failed and the only way the Khazarian elites can make it any longer, is to do us, the current ordianry world population, what they accuse the Germans Nazis of doing to them during the second world war…CARRY OUT A MASSIVE GENOCIDE!

    AND THE CURRENT KHAZARS WHO ARE NAZIS REALLY, HAVE BEGUN TO DO EXACTLY THAT!

    AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN SAVE OURSELVES IS TO RISE UP NOW! NO JOKING AROUND AND REMOVE THEM FROM THE SOCIAL POWER! TO TAKE THAT SOCIAL POWER AND BUILD THE NEXT STAGE OF HUMAN EVOLUTION WHICH MUST BE CENTRED ON ORDIANRY FOLK FOR IT TO WORK…REAL DEMOCRACY!

    And if we do that in the west we would ensure no backsliding by the Russian, Chinese and Iranians into old forms of elitism but to continue into full demoncracy taking humanity to safety from itself, based on the very structure of society we create. That is where the answer lies…in the form of social organization we create. We must look to ’cause and effect’, to natural human ‘subjectivity’, the way we are born and live socially, to ‘self-interest’ and what it actuallyis in all its fullness, not the narrow limited, murderous, capitalist interpretation and expression of human self interest.. which is based in ordinary, routine existential security.

    WE MUST CREATE EXISTENTIAL WAYS/FORMS OF SOCIAL ORGANIZATION THAT ADDRESS THE FULL SECURITY OF ALL HUMAN BEINGS ALIVE AND TO COME – OUR CHILDREN AND FUTURE! ONLY THEN WOULD WE CREATE THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH TRUE HUMANIST BEHAVIOUR BECOMES AN ADVANTAGE, IS NOT AN EXISTENTIAL, CURRENT WEAKNESS AND A THREAT TO INDIVIDUAL SURVIVAL

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @Harley Rider
  168. @Ned The Medic

    You wrote, in relation to the uptick in deaths in Australia post Covid vaccination:

    Australia’s stats are bit more reliable, end of Feb 2022 uptick of 20.5% of all deaths. Holly Gee wiz it’s like people’s immune systems are malfunctioning.
    I wonder why Ron?

    Let’s have a look at Australia’s Covid statistics in the link below:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

    To start with, scroll down to the graph labelled ‘Total Deaths’.

    As you can see, up until mid-2021 the cumulative number of deaths in the WHOLE country was around 950.
    I purposely mention mid-2021 because the Covid vaxx rollout was delayed in Australia and it wasn’t until well into the SECOND HALF of 2021 that even 50% of adult Aussies had received the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as vaccines.

    Well then, let’s scroll back up to the top of the link and look at the headline figure which tells us:

    Covid mortality in Australia has INCREASED BY A FACTOR OF MORE THAN TEN (10) since the vaccination rollout.

    How is that possible Ron Unz ?
    Weren’t the Covid ‘vaccines’ supposed to offer added protection and if so, shouldn’t the mortality rate have diminished ?

    SUMMARY: Australia had LESS THAN 1000 Covid deaths in the period Jan 2020 – July 2021 (a period when the allegedly more serious strains of Covid were circulating and very few Australians had received the Covid clot shots).

    THEN, after the Covid ‘vaccines’ were administered, (despite this being a period where the LESS LETHAL Delta and Omicron variants were circulating), Australia saw an EXPONENTIAL RISE in Covid deaths – accompanied by a significant rise in deaths due to other causes.

    How do you explain that Ron ?

    Meanwhile Ron, I know you have a fixation with what the experts have to say.
    Well here are three of them in this recent interview with Del Bigtree of the Highwire (the audio is not the best for the first couple of minutes but stick with it as it improves):

    https://www.brighteon.com/6fc08319-b54f-40ed-a351-00e4449d8a92

    The three experts are Dr Robert Malone, Dr Pierre Kory and Dr Richard Urso.
    And they’re unanimous in their message, which is:

    STOP VACCINATING !!

    Ron, how can you ignore what Dr Robert Malone has to say ?

    F.F.S, he is the man that PIONEERED THE mRNA technology that’s in the Pfizer and Moderna jabs that most people took in the western countries.

    Surely Ron you must acknowledge, THAT THERE IS NO ONE ON THE PLANET MORE COMPETENT TO SPEAK ON THE DANGERS OF mRNA ‘vaccines’ than Dr Robert Malone.

    If so Ron, WHY do you ignore what he has to say ?

    • Agree: Ned The Medic
    • Replies: @Stephane
  169. I tend to believe actuaries from insurance companies that have paid out death policies for both Covid and non-Covid deaths over the last three years and claim a 40% increase in non-Covid deaths last quarter of 2021 (no explanation). Similarly, John Campbell has reported a 16% increase in non-Covid deaths in the UK at present, with no explanation. Possibly the excess deaths are due to less medical care, Covid long term effects, or long term Covid vax effects. It disingenuous and specious to show an Excel graph and claim nothing is happening. During Covid there were fewer traffic-related deaths, much fewer ifluenza deaths; we don’t really know how many died OF vs WITH Covid, nor whether Covid vaccines really saved many lives (the modeling depends on assumptions made; you cannot use earlier Covid data and expect a repeat of that death rate as some have done– the most susceptible are removed in the first wave and most unvaccinated survivors develop superior immunity to Covid to vaccine immunity. Arguably, as Iceland’s chief epidemiologist noted, most people would have been better off wihout vaccination.) Obviously Covid is a Disease of the Elderly and the Seriously Ill. When looking at excess death rates it is best to compare to five year averages before Covid and adjust for seasonal effects; best to break excess deaths down by demographics (particularly age); best to compare life spans lost in different age groups (an 80 year old is looking at 8 years average, an 8 year old at another 64 years). At present all we really know is that the US did an abysmal job of handling Covid.
    A much more frightening prospect is presented by Geert van den Bossche. With the continued (also unexplained) high Covid infection rates in Europe, he presents his Original Antigenic Sin-based hypothesis claiming we are ripe for an “Epidemic of the Vaccinated”:
    youtube.com/watch?v=6M1MmbjZzxw

    • Agree: Corrupt
    • Replies: @niceland
  170. @Eireannach

    Not at all. His idea of vax conspiracies in order to obfuscate a greater evil is fascinating. It’s tough to sort out. Personally I think he’s perhaps a touch cavalier in his dismissal of Vax hoaxers as cranks. But so many are obviously cranks. The challenge is not throw the baby out with the bathwater. I’m assuming he’s human and not a piece of software, so he’s entitled to be annoyed if something as critical as a botched (or successful) biowar attack was pulled off right in front of our eyes. I get where you’re coming from too. If you think the vaxxes are an atrocity you’re likely to resent the idea being ignored. One of the problems is of idiots supporting a possibly correct thesis for dubious reasons or questionable motives.

  171. Coercing people into taking novel, poorly tested Gene therapy drugs upon pain of job loss is a violation of bodily autonomy, medical privacy and informed consent. It has nothing to do with vaccines.

    But dismissing people as anti-vaxxers is bigly satisfying to the likes of Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon and all the other MICIMATT shills on the boob tube. Almost as satisfying as torturing Assange and holding political prisoners in the DC Jails indefinitely. Almost as satisfying as chuckling quietly to oneself as leftist thugs smash windows in downtown Portland with complete legal impunity, over and over and over again for 5+ years now.

    I am not opposed to real, properly tested vaccines. I am opposed to harming people in the name of public health, and acts of deception and criminality in government.

    Thank you for this website, Mr. Unz.

  172. jsm says:
    @A123

    • Manda-Vaxx
    • Vaxx-Realist

    Manda-Vaxxers is good.

    Vaxx-Realist… I like Pro-Choice Vaxxers.

  173. @Beagle

    Then in 1927, Buck v. Bell upheld forced sterilization in Virginia as part of the eugenics ‘science’ of the day

    Meanwhile by 1927 the Khazar Jews who had taken control of Russia in 1917 had already murdered more than 10 million Russian Christians concentrating first and foremost on what they called the “intelligents.” All the (gentile) engineers, say, in a certain city would be executed by the Bolsheviks with their wives and children. (And the Bolsheviks being Bolsheviks frequently went out of their way to execute the children in front of the parents before executing the parents simply for the pleasure of making their victims’ last moments on Earth as agonizing as possible.)

    Possibly it was the Bolshevik program of dysgenics that inspired Hitler?

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Beagle
  174. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Not for one second would I accept Unz’s blithe speculation that Goldman Sachs would in fact impose its vaccination requirement on those in its uppermost echelons.
    Vis-à-vis the common ruck of Goldman employees, Goldman Sachs, just like every other institution or society, has a top stratum that is not subject to the laws they make.
    The unvaxxed will exist in greater or lesser numbers among Goldman’s very top executives. Some might eventually contract COVID; some might even die of it, though their unvaxxedness, the nature of their illness, and the cause of their deaths will all be skillfully and impenetrably concealed.
    After all, each will possess a vaccination passport of unchallengeable authenticity.

    • Agree: Shafar Nullifidian
  175. gnbRC says:

    Is it too early to start searching Amazon/Books for the Jewish Holocaust of the American Population, or Rockefellers and Jews Unite to Fulfil Talmudic-Eugenic Destiny? Maybe it’s just me, but Mr. Unz’s essay seems a little desperate, you know, like being read the riot act from above.

  176. @Harry Gonad

    I want answers to those myocardial questions too because I came down with severe myocarditis. It was awful but I in some regard recovered. I was exceeding disturbed to point of unmentionable hatred but noticed that not, in my opinion, coincidentally, I was rendered unable to do much about it by dint of the reaction to the shots. Your questions are valid.

    Here’s something I have not seen here or anywhere else but I’ll mention it nonetheless. It strikes me that Ron is an individual who can think ahead a good number of steps. If so, and he elucidates his biowar thesis publicly, wouldn’t he know to anticipate possible retaliation or retaliations? They needn’t come in the form of biowar. Also they could come that way. They could be ongoing for all we know. Thus the idea may have presented itself to him: If people are deceived or otherwise believe that vaccination is the work of the devil, how are we realistically to inoculate them in case of a real deadly or incapacitating attack? Realistically, the idea of such a situation arising might perturb any sane person. And make them disinclined to tolerate people whose understanding of the problem is incomplete or faulty or the work of real enemy adversaries working to paralyze the national defenses.

    You would think something so elementary would occur to people on such forums as this. That to my knowledge it hasn’t is very perplexing to me. That Ron didn’t say so explicitly yet (to my incomplete knowledge) makes eminent sense also for reasons that are self evident or should be.

  177. Ron Unz’s ‘faith’ in government statistics illustrates an intelligent secularist’s limits in understanding evil. I know Christian humanists who have the same limits – as the term Christian humanist is in itself an oxymoron.

    “Regardless, this deep devotion to wickedness on the part of the primary actors is why very intelligent secularists are having such a difficult time understanding, anticipating, or even correctly describing current events. Unless and until one accepts the reality of the Christian perspective, and admits the centrality of the struggle between repentant Man and unrepentant Angel, one cannot possibly make any sense of what is happening around the world today”- Vox Day, as he defended Archbishop Vigano from his detractors.

    Sometime ago, I asked the question: Are We governed by humans?

    https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/11/are-we-governed-by-humans.html?m=0

    You decide.

  178. @Jimmy1969

    The modern schema was perfected in the fascinating saga of Paul Bennewitz / Bill Moore / Richard Doty in the early 1980’s. (There is no chance the current UFO performance art will get to the bottom of anything.)

    https://diaboliquemagazine.com/the-cover-up-behind-ufo-cover-up-live-part-3/

    The nine eleven truth advocates never had a chance opposed and infiltrated by these professionals. Vaccination truth, ditto.

    There is at least a 51% probability that imbecile David Martin is either a spook or an asset. At least. I am a kook so my estimate is 95%.

  179. Alden says:
    @TKK

    Masks in Dr offices. Last week of February 2020 I had 2 Dr appointments. No masks. Since I intended to fly a few days later I asked both about wearing masks. Both Drs said no need to wear those silly little medical masks. As any virus would infect me anyway because those masks don’t adhere to the skin and bacteria viruses etc get through. But a week later the whole country under lock down and mask orders.

    I had a box of those round N95 construction masks. Problem with them is I have a small face and pointed chin. So the bottom of the mask is about an inch and a half bigger than my chin and any virus germ dust dirt sand and insect can get right in. .

    I’m not vaccinated and never will be. Just a bit of personal resistance to the liberals. I also ordered ten tubes of Ivermectin from a vet supply firm in Maryland horse country. Each tube contains enough medicine for a horse up to 1250 pounds. Figure we have enough for the whole family. If anyone gets sick with this imaginary disease. I know about 70 people who tested positive and had to stay home from work or school for a few days till they re tested negative. Not one felt sick at all. No symptoms.

    I knew covid was a lie when I read it in the NYTimes. Whatever is in the NYTimes, the opposite is true.

  180. @Kevin Barrett

    You write:

    If and when ” the anti-vaxxers will eventually be proved right” it will almost certainly be the data-driven ones like RFK Jr., not the wild-eyed doomsayers Ron criticises.

    No doubt Ron Unz would categorise me among the ‘anti-vaxxer doomsayers’ but, at the end of the day, I (like most of these alleged ‘anti-vaxxers’ here in the UR) are just acting as MESSENGERS.

    We are continually quoting the opinions of EXPERTS (scroll up Kevin to my previous comment and see what Dr Robert Malone, Dr Pierre Kory and Dr Richard Urso have to say in the video I posted).

    In addition we quote experts like Dr Peter McCullough and the Great Barrington Declaration’s Kulldorff, Gupta and Bhattacharya, to name just a few.

    We, the ones Ron Unz disparages, are CONSTANTLY QUOTING the findings of the data driven experts.
    Yet Ron just ignores any data that doesn’t fit in with his predetermined conclusions.

    • Agree: W, Theophrastus
  181. Ron Unz says:
    @Vidalus

    Mr. Unz – Mr. Rockwell’s current essay deserves your attention an comment please. Vidalus Link: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/07/lew-rockwell/death-by-vaccine/

    Okay, I took a quick look at the column, and here’s one of the key paragraphs:

    For prior years, we’re talking about roughly 100 deaths a year from somewhere between 250 million and 350 million vaccines administered. On the other hand, we’re talking about 3800 deaths from about 150 million COVID shots—not in a full year; in only four months.

    The VAERS database is apparently open to the public and allows “unverified reports,” so it’s easy to imagine “excitable” anti-vaxxers swarming it and leaving large numbers of complaints, perhaps even including totally spurious ones. But let’s suppose those numbers are correct.

    As I already emphazied, given the mostly untested and experimental nature of the mRNA Covid vaccines, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the death-rates were many times higher than for annual flu vaccines. 10,000 or even 20,000 annual deaths hardly seems implausible to me. But if the Covid disease itself has killed well over a million Americans and the vaccine does enormously reduce the risk of death or serious illness, it’s still very cost-effective from the medical perspective, at least for individuals who are over 50.

    This is exactly the sort of distinction I tried to make in my piece. There’s a gigantic difference between claiming that the Covid vaccines will kill 10K or 20K Americans and claiming that they’ll kill 75 million or 100 million Americans.

  182. @JackOH

    And I can sort of see that JackOH’s back here condescending to soothe himself about an irrevocable decision. If not, why keep posting on these redundant threads, but refusing to engage?

    I asked yet again last week:

    Why did you get the shot(s), when was your last, and what do you now think of your decision(s)?

    You toss out speculation about other people, but never answer for yourself. Can you at least hit an AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC button to acknowledge receipt?

  183. Geo Ha says:

    If this is a bioweapon directed at China, please explain why china has fewer covid deaths than Ohio.
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/china
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/ohio
    ohio/china covid deaths ratio 38,920/14,647 ~ 2.7

    By a factor of nearly 3, despite a population ratio of china/ohio of 1450743/11780 ~ 123

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  184. Pancho says:

    The whole discussion misses the main point. The real problem was not the vaccines, but the draconian, and totally counterproductive measures we were mandated to follow. In my opinion, the Coronavirus —a biowarfare tool most likely created at Fort Detrick— was a makeshift substitute for the failing 9/11 PsyOp, and the new Coronavirus PsyOp worked nicely. Moreover, it showed that Americans have turned into scared sheeple.
    Currently, the Coronavirus PsyOp is fading because the globalist conspirators have finally found the enemy they need to justify their actions: Russia. The threat of nuclear war is a much better tool to scary Americans. Be ready to run to the closest nuclear shelter!

  185. Alden says:
    @FreeAssange

    The Jewish Bolsheviks destroyed Russia by killing all the intelligentsia and skilled workers. The Jews of America are destroying the country by affirmative action for incompetents of color and affirmative action discrimination and bigotry against functional competent White American men.

  186. The Government is not behaving rationally in regard to these new vaccines.

    First they tried to mandate vaccines.

    Then they wanted to mandate vaccine passports.

    Then they tried to mandate boosters ad infinitum.

    Then they wanted to vaccinate babies as young as six months.

    They also denied obvious treatments such as Ivermectin.

    They destroyed anybody who disagreed with them or questioned them.

    Whatever this thing was it had little to do with my own personal health.

    I used to get a flu shot every couple of years, but yeah, I’m now an anti-vaxxer.

    That said, if it was Marburg virus or Ebola, I’d probably get two vaccines and hide under a rock.

    When you find out what they are really up to write a column and let us all know.

  187. windwaves says:

    Ron, it is way too early to measure deaths induced by the mrna vaccines.

    If the long term destructive effects on our natural immune systems are real as various experts in the subject matter claim, deaths are going to accumulate over years and presumably it won’t be obvious to link them to these criminal vaccines.

    For what it matters, here I am, in my 50s, athlete all my life including now, take zero drugs, never had anything serious at all whatsoever, suddenly I am told I have Graves Disease. There are already research papers out there linking it to the vaccines.

    We shall see what happens, but for sure the vaccines are a total failures. Denying that today is irrational.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  188. Corrupt says:

    Mr. Unz,

    Please explain why the EUA version of the vaccine is still being distributed and it is impossible to get the “approved” Cominarty version of the vaccine? Thank you.

  189. The Main problem of ron unz is He really thinks that all of These people died from CoVid. That is stupid. As someone who is from germany and studies the numbers from RKI, DESTATIS and INEK I Know certain that these numbers are Not correct. The First think is that there were no More deaths. The second thing is that covid mortality is not only age stratified but also Sex stratified. And this cannot be correct.

    • Agree: Boll
  190. From now on everyone vaxxed will die of the vax but it will be reported as something else, perhaps even as accidentally falling down the stairs.

    But seriously, are the medical authorities manipulating data? For example, many fully vaxxed people are still catching Covid-19. Wouldn’t the authorities want to claim that fully vaxxed people are not catching Covid-19 so as to promote their vaccines, and hence manipulate the test results and the reporting? Yet previously we were told that people were being wrongly diagnosed with Covid-19 so that hospitals could get their hands on money and to promote the vaccines. Obviously if the main intent of the NWO conspiracy was to get people vaxxed, and they manipulated data to do that, you would think they’d manipulate it further to show that the vaxx is working and preventing people from catching Covid-19 which it obviously isn’t doing.

    • Replies: @Vasily
  191. JimDandy says:
    @Ron is Right

    so the distinction between those two categories is not as meaningful as you think, except in a minority of cases where presence of SARS-COV-2 was purely incidental.

    I believe that the average age of Covid deaths is higher than the average age of death.

    • Replies: @Ron is Right
  192. @Ron Unz

    Then why doesn’t China re-open? Why don’t they mandate Sputnik V?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  193. MLK says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Are you in fact asserting that a correct pyramid chart for China’s population would be very different?

    No, the opposite. With Mao dead, and The Gang of Four vanquished, it was time for “mistakes were made.”

    This chart reveals All Cause Excess Mortality (ACEM) for that age cohort. ACEM is the hardest to lie about and grows ever more so with each passing year as it compounds.

    Famine is an easy one to figure out. So is war. The last couple of years have been relatively easy for the powers that be in The West in terms of covering up the deaths and injures from the experimental mRNA shots. At least if we go by how many reasonably intelligent people have been so easily conditioned to expect what was inexplicable a mere two years ago like the sudden death or debilitating medical crisis of the young and healthy.

    Just wait until they have to explain the collapse in TFR correlated with the injections.

  194. Renoman says:

    Well it’s hard to argue with numbers Ron, I would like to see the data in another year or 3, it could be a time bomb?

  195. If big pharma didn’t stand to make piles of cash on this whole covid deal I believe the last two years would have been quite different.

  196. Anon[357] • Disclaimer says:

    Continuing boilerplate Unz:

    However, none of my own views were changed. I’d never known or cared anything about XYZ, but as I rather sarcastically explained… [distancing comments regarding conservative meatbags, bigots and imbeciles.

    There are crackpots and there are crackpots and I’m not a crackpot!

    Litany of obvious looming catastrophes to add associative heft to immediate context …

    Excessive words: why use two when you can use ten? Add more to make any banal point sound deeply considered.

    RFK is a reasonable man of sound opinion, if somewhat hyperbolic.

    Appeals to own authority, citing self

    Counting of words

    Charts and graphs [including an oddly symmetrical chart of Chinese birth rates by gender, with deltas for ‘surpluses’]

    The overwhelming evidence of [insert self-referential link cache to woefully anecdotal claims of crackpot biowarfare theory]

    Self aggrandizing mug shots

    Passive hypocrisy such as appeals to poverty of news coverage of preferred crackpot theory in midst of laments about excess of coverage of crackpot theories.

    Further distancing gestures from the psychic inbreeding of conservative meatbags, bigots and imbeciles, intended to bolster the idea of a better class of conservative meatbags, bigots and imbeciles.

    Rhetorical gestures of giving a fair-shake to conservative meatbags, bigots and imbeciles.

    far greater — merely a tiny sliver — very slightly declined — Nearly all — enormous increase — exceptionally heated — tremendously positive — tremendous disruptions — tremendous crackpottery — plausible inferences — so it seems quite plausible — presumably will include — we would surely expect — considerable credibility — discordant facts — overwhelming media shift — upper-ranking executives — an hour-long interview a couple of weeks ago — historically been provided annually — extremely harsh words for those responsible might be warranted — I located a useful chart — additional data have now greatly strengthened my previous conclusions

    It’s a smorgasbord of superlatives, meaningless qualifications and vaguely precise designators.

    But it’s the last one about “additional data strengthening concussions” that tells us what we need to know about the Unz thought cycle: a scientist admits anything that disproves his conjectures. Ron goes looking for anything to support his forgone conclusions. And when he finds something: QED.

    This whole scene is absurd.

    Thanks for letting me do my part.

    • Thanks: W
    • LOL: Rumpelstiltskin
  197. @Ron Unz

    But if the Covid disease itself has killed well over a million Americans and the vaccine does enormously reduce the risk of death or serious illness, it’s still very cost-effective from the medical perspective, at least for individuals who are over 50.

    … and there’s the rub.

    Mr. Unz, you are drawing conclusions from an erroneous premise. Ergo, your conclusions are wrong.

    Although it’s an effort for an elderly gentleman such as yourself to open your eyes and read the actual data, nonetheless that data freely available now from many nations across the planet emphatically shows that well over 90% of the alleged Corona Chan hospitalisations and fatalities now underway are amongst the double, triple and quadruple jabbed, not the “unvaccinated”.

    A far greater proportion of the “vaccinated” are getting sick and dying than the “unvaccinated”. The most salient distinguishing factor to account for that discrepancy in sickness and mortality between these two groups is in fact the very same basis for that distinction – one group has been injected, while the other has not.

    The “IF” in your logical construct has no basis – because it is demonstrably false and (as so many of your alleged “anti-vaxxers” here on the forums have patiently and repeatedly pointed out) the medical authorities to which you defer are lying about the safety and efficiacy of the fake “vaccines”, and have been from the outset.

    Your confidence in the fake “vaccines” is fatally misplaced. Your analysis in this respect is fatally flawed, because you will not entertain the bleedingly obvious revelation that the advice of the medical and governmental institutions on the “safety and efficiacy” of the fake “vaccines” is demonstrably false, and is in fact a globally orchestrated pack of lies.

    We do really truly love you and your endearing quirks, and appreciate everything you have provided for us here on the Unz Review.

    But occasionally even an adorably eccentric uncle needs a good kick up the arse. Consider this the gentle application of tough love.

    • Agree: Olivier1973, W
  198. ariadna says:
    @Anon

    I don’t think he would change his mind upon reading Malone or Berenson or anyone else he has probably labeled “anti-vaxxer” or even “suspected of being an ‘anti-vaxxer’.”
    I would go farther than that and guess that even if he were to develop symptoms consistent with auto-immune deficiency/disease, or myocardial inflammation (despite a clean previous health record), he would not attribute them to the Pfizer shots he took. If he got COVID (supposedly, according to a PCR “test”) he would congratulate himself for being vaxxed, convinced that the symptoms would have been worse without the jab.
    I have seen this dead-set reluctance to change their stance vis-a-vis the mRNA jabs in many otherwise intelligent but already “Pfizerized” people. Intelligence loses to deep, unaware/unacknowledged defensive emotional responses: (1) “I could not possibly have been THAT wrong, not I, therefore I was not wrong”; (2) “If I made such a catastrophic AND irreparable error I would have to cower in abject fear and become a hypochondriac, suspecting every indigestion for angina pectoris, and every articulation pain for a blood clot, etc. The fear of such a fear is worse than the fear of Pfizer. I am set!”
    There is a vast difference between defending your decision a priori and defending it post factum. The emotional investment is substantial in the latter.

    • Agree: meamjojo
  199. Wade says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    First off, let me say I have a great respect for Ron, this website, and everything he’s done. He’s one of my personal heroes.

    However, if Ron really shared your views on this, fewer people would be up in arms in the comment section to his articles.

    I consider myself an “anti-vaxxer” at this point, but at no point in time have I ever used Dr David Martin as a source for my skepticism. Instead I’ve used the circle of doctors and scientists Senator Ron Johnson has invited to his hearings. If this was really Ron’s view, then the best way to tamp down the anti-vaxxer idiocies such as they are, would be for Ron to highlight the leading lights of the anti-vaxxer camp and their arguments, while eschewing David Martin, thus pointing the way for his vaccine-skeptical audience towards greater credibility and better argumentation.

    Instead, Ron avoids mentioning any of the highly credible witnesses and experts Ron Johnson has tried to give a hearing. He reminds us (correctly) that Cass Sunstein-like efforts of cognitively infiltrating the conspiracy community are probably at play within the anti-covid-vaxx movement, but by demurring from discussion on the credible evidence, he inadvertently aids them in their efforts.

    Then there’s the reliance on CDC data regarding the total death tolls of the nation. Now, I’ve got zero expertise to challenge the CDC on this. Maybe they are right and being truthful. However, remember we are not trying to account for a missing 1/3rd of our nation’s population, but perhaps more like 150,000 deaths which is more in line with what the more credible scientists are alleging. Now, given the recent and egregious lies and fraud that the CDC has recently admitted to (more on this in a moment), combined with the numbers from several insurance companies that show huge increases in life insurance payouts which rose at the beginning of 2021 (while those same insurance companies show either no increase in 2020, or in the case of one company, a 9% increase in 2020 followed by a 163% increase in 2021 in life insurance payouts), one might at least be hesitant to take the CDC at face value while allowing the more believable skeptics a little wiggle room to make their best case.

    When the vaccines were rolled out the CDC put a document on its website stating that they would perform PRR (Proportional Reporting Ratio) calculations on the VAERS data on a weekly basis to ascertain whether there are any dangers with the vaccines. Furthermore, Rochelle Walensky stated repeatedly to the press that their PRR calculations show no safety signal. Other statisticians got curious and tried to duplicate their calculations. The PRR calculations/algorithm are published so anyone can reproduce their efforts. This formula has been written about and criticized a bio-statistician by the name of Mathew Crawford on his substack page. Independent analysis showed that by the CDC’s own methodology and criteria, the vaccines should’ve been pulled within the first month or so of the rollout.

    Now, thanks to a FOIA request, the CDC was forced to release all their PRR calculations for review by the public. The CDC’s response was a document admitting that they have not performed any PRR calculations on the VAERS data whatsoever and referred all inquiries to the FDA. They’ve lied about this from the beginning and those lies were repeated by Fauci and the media. They claim to have a better database called the BEST database (this name reminds me of when Hollywood had identified a group of good-guys revolting against Assad called “The White Hats”, but I digress…), but unfortunately this database is private and no one outside the CDC can investigate.

    Then there’s the lawsuit against the FDA where the FDA begged a federal judge to give them 75 years to release Pfizer’s trial data. Mercifully, the judge told them to go to hell and on their way release 55,000 pages of the 350,000 pages a month. Hilariously, the FDA has complied but they are intentionally mixing them up as they’re released to make it as hard as possible for researchers to connect dots while they await missing documents.

    Nevertheless, this release of documents has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Pfizer has committed fraud and Pfizer has all but admitted it. Thankfully they are being sued by a former Vantavia employee (a Pfizer subcontractor) for being fired as a whistle blower. She contacted the FDA through a whistleblower program that guarantees anonymity. Her communication was at 9:00 AM one morning. By 3:00 PM the same day Pfizer had her identity from the FDA and she was fired.

    Naturally Pfizer is asking the judge to dismiss this lawsuit. Their plea is basically “yeah we committed fraud during the trials. However, we did so as a government contractor and since the government knew all about the fraud and bought our product anyway, you can’t really sue us for it”.

    And boy did they commit fraud. I won’t got into all the details of it save one: There was never any double-blind placebo controlled trial, even for the truncated 2 month EUA one, because the doctors were made aware from the start who received the vaccine and who didn’t. This meant that when people in the vaccine arm complained of covid symptoms, the doctors went “well there’s no point in a COVID test, you were vaccinated after all”.. I could go on and on.

    Then there’s those military physicians who blew the whistle on their own internal “military readiness” database (the exact name escapes me) which tracks ICD codes (diagnosis codes). This database showed huge increases in ICD codes for heart disease, neurological disorders and even cancer among military personal who had received the COVID vaccines. There’s a lawsuit about that. Shortly thereafter the military claimed the huge spikes in ICD codes was illusory. You see, for the proceeding 5 year period prior to 2021 they had a “glitch” in their system which reduced the ICD code counts. When you add back in the missing data, there’s no “spike” whatsoever.

    If you believe this, god help you. I’m a software developer for a hospital in a very poor US city. I deal with the kind of processes that do things like pass medical records, images, ICD codes, billing information (you name it) from my hospital to other institutions on a daily basis. My programming literally processes millions of records every day and has for years on end. Never once in my 15 years of doing this job have any of our stakeholders ever stated that for the past several months, let alone years, we were missing data that could account for differences of 1000% in billing for certain ICD codes (for example). That’s because once we complete our initial testing, the logic of the program is verified, the worst thing that happens in that a network glitch causes a file to be missed which is always caught and corrected within 24 hours. The military is basically claiming this happened to them for 5 years straight and no one noticed until the whistleblowers spoke up. This is bullshit and everyone knows it.

    There’s so much material for a world class American Pravda piece but for whatever reason Ron doesn’t want to dig into the subject matter. Instead we get the occasional distraction about what the crazies are complaining about now.

  200. Anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    When a joo ‘writes’ or ‘\$ez’ something, always just ‘scroll 2 the end’ 2 C where they pull their typical (((“KILLWHITEY!”))) routine ~ & (((Unz))) is no exception (unfortunately) with his ‘Corona’ = “evidence of an ‘American’ (((Chinese))) biowarfare attack” …

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    Everybody should keep in mind how often (((Unz))) does this. It is a ‘Goy Re\$earch \$ite’ not a ‘Truther’ network. It’s all about ‘Sheeple Feedback’ so the (((Elite\$))) can better understand how 2 fine tune their (((Lie\$))), not actually fix things. (((Unz))) knows ‘it’s just the flu’ but wants whites & Asians 2 exterminate each other, because jooz (like him) want 2 wreck all the world 2 rule over the ashes …
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  201. Anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:

    The anti-vaxxers don’t “want attention”. They want to be left alone to live their lives.

    And it’s not that the Ukraine war has supplanted Covid news. It’s that the Covid epidemic has mostly run it’s course in the span of two years, it’s endemic now, people are fatigued and just want to get back to normal life.

    HOWEVER the long term consequences of this giant medical experiment remain to be seen.

    Count me in the group that thinks the vaccines were largely unnecessary for most people healthy and under 65 and that the side effects will start to show up in the following years.

  202. anaccount says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Correct, where there is smoke there is fire. The fact that they are now injecting infants tells you everything. You don’t need a ‘mass death theory’ once you hear that one. To his credit, Ron actually mentions this fact (progress) but I’m surprised it doesn’t give him more pause. What else do you need?

  203. I find this presentation by Ron Unz dishonest on several points. Like making a link with the Chinese famine of 1958-62. I am not anti-vaccination. I am for a free choice. I reject blackmail. People in several countries are blackmailed and will lose their job if they do not submit.

    The evidence is that the mRNA injections are not a vaccine. I got a tetanos vaccine 10 years ago. It still protects me. Booster every 20 years, not every time the pharma-lobby decides. Same for several other vaccines. An injection which does not protect you from the disease, nor does hinder its transmission, is not a vaccine. Moreoever these injections are killing young people. The death of a youth is a tragedy, the death of an old human being is the natural order of things. Ron Unz considers only the raw data.

    Old people are usually retired people. It is their responsibility if they think they are at risk to protect themselves.

    Check your vitamine D level.

  204. @JimDandy

    No.

    “Three out of every four deaths were people 65 and older, according to U.S. data analyzed by The Associated Press.

    About 255,000 people 85 and older died; 257,000 were 75 to 84 years old; and about 229,000 were 65 to 74.”

    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-05-06/nearly-1-million-covid-19-deaths-a-look-at-the-us-numbers

    Remaining one-fourth of deaths is below 65. So taking rough mid-points and averaging – (88 + 80 + 70 + 60) / 4 = 74 which is lower than 79, US life expectancy.

    These estimates are conservative. If a significant number of quarter-million deaths below 65 are below 50, that would bring the average further down.

    Also these are US stats. Conceivably, different parts of the world got different variants. Otherwise, why would so many of Iran’s parliament members get infected and die without similar frequency of deaths elsewhere? Lots of young Indians in their 30s and 40s died whom I know personally during delta outbreak which was very different in symptoms and death profiles from Wuhan and Omicron variants. Could be related to genetical differences across races, too, or a combination of variants and genetics.

    • Replies: @Marcion
    , @JimDandy
  205. MEH 0910 says:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/18/anthony-fauci-interview-covid-00046189

    • Replies: @Iva
  206. Thim says:

    Unz says he believes the government’s mortality reports. It is certainly a safe position to take, considering how many anti vaxx advocates and alternative doctors have died in recent years under strange circumstances, also called assassanations.

    The statistics are as bogus as the election results put out by the voting machines. Even worse, actually.

    Viewed by 100,000 people and 600,000 bots? ZOG will help you if you support their depopulation operation.

  207. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    Vaxxing Conspiracies and 700,000 Rumble Views

    Conspiracy Theory = Spoiler Alert

  208. ariadna says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    The last paragraph is a gentle nudge to try a little harder to strike an objective approach.

  209. Marcion says:

    Your first sentence, Mr. Unz, is mind-bogglingly off. The West’s problems have arisen not from the war, but from the many years of financial mismanagement, especially the utter mismanagement of the coronavirus, the destruction of a healthy middle class, and finally, the failed sanctions placed on Russia products.

    Bad governments kill many millions of despairing people every year to maintain their power through many, many means… including bioweapons.

  210. Covid-19 does not exist, it is the biggest scam and psyop in the history of the world and is being driven by the Rockefeller and Gates Foundations, the WEF, the WHO, the CDC, the NIH, UN Agenda 2030, etc.., an the purpose of the scam is to drive people into getting the MRNA genocide jab for the kabals depopulation agenda.

    The demonic bastards behind this psyop are some of the evilist subhumans in the history of the world.

    • Agree: Towey
  211. anon[328] • Disclaimer says:

    This is great.

    Reasonable people can disagree about the risk of the mRNA gene therapies. Exaggeration is certainly counterproductive. In the scheme of things your odds are better than Russian roulette: the most rigorous excess-mortality analyses say the clot shot kills one in a few thousand. Now that they wiped out all the feeblest crispies with COVID, front-loading lots of death, the diminution of that dull roar drowns out increased mortality in younger, more resilient cohorts that don’t die in such droves. So you don’t see excess mortality in the aggregated charts above.

    Irrespective of the number of people Bourla and Fauci killed, the corruption and malversation of the false claims used to authorize mRNA biologics is a crime of unprecedented gravity. That will probably be a couple hundred thousand victims here in the US, with a great deal of uncertainty due to the systemic toxicity of the treatment. So fraud would stick, murder too, extermination probably not. Class action tort cases are a slam dunk. You can liquidate the whole crooked industry that way.

    The irreducible case against this gene therapy is different. Medical experimentation under ulterior constraint or coercion is illegal. In US and universal jurisdiction law. Medical experimentation is the single most absolute prohibition in the most universal human rights instrument. It’s a special case of torture, and no emergency can justify it. Nothing can justify it. Coercive medical experimentation on billions certainly meets the threshold for crimes against humanity. Rainer Fuellmich is sounder on this than Martin, who as a US-trained lawyer never got a whiff of the relevant law.

    When Doktor Mengele sewed the gypsy twins together, the problem is not that they died on him. When he gave you needles in your eyeballs to see what would happen, the problem is not you might go blind. When he vivisects you with no anaesthesia, it doesn’t matter if you heal when he sews you back up. Risk/benefit is neither here nor there.

    mRNA medical experimentation is also integrally related to the crime of aggression with banned biological weapons. That’s because you don’t use the weapon without the vaccine. The undeclared war gives rise to the other crimes. Vaccine development for banned biological weapons is part of CIA’s common plan and conspiracy for war, Nuremberg Count 1. So the crime against humanity of medical experimentation is an element of the crime against peace. Incidentally, in international legal precedent the undeclared “sneak attack” nature of germ warfare justifies nuclear attack as a countermeasure. This is how the trial will go when Russia wins the whole war.

    So there is no numbers game involved in hanging Bob Gates, Bourla, Fauci, Daszak, Kadlek, Haines, Pompeo, and Baric. Ship the scumbags off to Khabarovsk, where they know how to handle mad scientists and string em up.

  212. Marcion says:
    @archimedes

    Some countries including China and Russia developed real vaccines for the coronavirus a couple years ago. Whether they did any good we certainly don’t know until we get all the data.

  213. Nemo361 says:

    So you are going to line up for booster number 4 and 5 now right? Because a guy who publicly states that the Earth’s population should be 1/16th what it is today AND that vaccines are the way to do this is… just making idle talk? The problem with this channel is that literally nobody understands that EVIL is real and it wants humans extinct. The vaxx is a demonic poison and oh look the number WHICH INCLUDE STATS PAST 2020 AND ACTUALLY INCLUDE 2021 DON’T LIE YOU STUPID FUCK… https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/the-global-vaccine-nightmare-has

    So go ahead and take the 5th jab and enjoy your ever growing colony of hydra creatures making protein ribbons in your arteries until they stop your heart. Hey! It not like you can’t refute *all 48 of these facts* right? https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-safe-and-effective-narrative and if you are a woman in Taiwan you never wanted to have a baby anyway….

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/taiwan-birth-rate-cratered-2766-in

    Basically you sir are playing the role of the stupid Mayor in the town of Amity while the killer shark rips apart victims 1 – 7

  214. windwaves says:
    @starthorn

    exactly, it is in a way as simple as that.

    Why people don’t merely wake the f up ?

  215. Thim says:
    @archimedes

    Archimedes, vaccines are not mandatory in China. But more important, China has no mRNA vaccine. Without the mRNA terminator they are not participating in the ongoing genocide.

    • Replies: @Archimedes
  216. Here are some of the independent scientific studies on the mRNA Covid “Vaccines”:
    Did Humankind Just Have Its Genome Poisoned? More Doctors Demand Investigation



    Video Link

  217. Harry Gonad says: • Website

    There were very safe and effective treatments available but these were viciously suppressed.

    So it was not necessary to attempt to force the population to be injected with what is in reality experimental shots. And doing that is evil.

    Why can’t Mr. Ronald Unz see that?

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  218. Ace says:
    @Zachary Smith

    The human contribution to atmospheric CO2 is insignificant and CO2 is itself a trace gas. But it has powerful juju so there’s that.

    I’m missing the irony that Jimmy sees so sorry about that.

  219. Marcion says:
    @Ron is Right

    Almost all the people that you claim died for coronavirus really died from multiple comorbidities, simultaneous deadly diseases. If someone dies with coronavirus and three other comorbidities, very common, then that counts as 0.25 deaths.

    Abortion cures birth, which has a 100% mortality rate, therefore everyone must support abortion.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Ron is Right
  220. @JimDandy

    The bizarre thing about this article, which I failed to read till the end, the moment I remembered Mr. Ron Unz having discussed very positively RFK’s book “ The Real Anthony Fauci” when he gave me the impression back then that he was firmly in the vaccination doubters camp. I can’t assert that this article is an about face from what he posited back then, but that makes me wonder if Ron is an aspiring journalist or politician.

  221. @Random Anonymous

    He won’t.
    Ron parks his hubris where he can get away with it.

  222. The fact you cite data from the CDC and other corrupt US “health agencies” to bolster your argument means your argument can’t be taken seriously. It doesn’t take much savvy to realize those responsible for the coming vaxxocaust would readily, eagerly, manipulate their data to hide reality. Did you not know of the highly suspicious “revision” of the military vaxxine injury data AFTER it had already been released for over a year and only because it became too obvious the vaxxines are a catastrophe for young service members? Have you been out to lunch while the Pfizer C-19 vaxxine trial data has slowly, begrudgingly been released due to a court order and showing massive, undeniable fraud? Have you never heard of Steve Kirschner? Alex Berenson? El Gato Malo? All on Substack, all documenting the massive failures and data manipulation worldwide regarding the “miracle” vaxxines?

    It’s astonishing that you will disbelieve US government agencies in relation to your pet interests (JFK, USS Liberty, 9/11, among others), but for some strange reason the C-19 vaxxines are completely legitimate.

  223. @Achmed E. Newman

    First of all, my male ego compels me to inform you that my wife does not nag me, is not the type, and knows that I would probably burn the house down with her in it if she did. She would not have gotten the vaccine if not for the fact that it was the only way for her to keep on teaching math at a nearby university.

    We discussed the problem, and I actually informed her of what Ron had shared with me: The good people at Goldman Sachs had done it, and so had he. With that in mind, we both decided that the risk was low and the possible benefit high. You know, the way someone at Goldman Sachs might make a decision about an investment.

    How old is your pilot friend? It is impossible to separate out the variable and determine if the vaccine caused the change in his EKG. As for my wife and me, we have continued our fitness regimens and even dropped a few pounds while most Americans have been sitting at home getting fat. I continue to walk my favorite six mile (10k) route up and down hills most days while she continues her daily Pilates and aerobics. I am 62 and she is 52.

  224. JackOH says:
    @TKK

    understand the rage- simmering below the surface in America life.

    I think this quick story fits in with your thinking. Back in the 1990s I noticed workers in low-end jobs who looked very out of place. They were managerial, technical, and admin folks who’d been dumped. I talked to them, and some sort of recounted in a hemming and hawing way they knew they were in serious life trouble when people started “talking down” to them.

  225. RobinG says:
    @Archimedes

    China made their own vaccine and has no need of Sputnik V. China’s per capita death rate is one of the lowest in the world, in spite of enduring the initial attack. Your comment is only one of many ignorant remarks peppering this thread. Sigh.

    • Replies: @Archimedes
  226. HoHo says:
    @JasonT

    The weirdest thing is when a person distrusts his/her government, then makes an argument BASED on the government’s “data.” By the way, if you do “trust” the government, it said people died from “covid” is about 5 to 6 percent in its weekly report since the scam. Isn’t it funny that the range of flu deaths in recent years is between 30K-60K per year?

    • Agree: JM
  227. HoHo says:
    @JasonT

    The guy who “built’ his reputation on conspiracies but trashed the BIGGEST one ever. Who would have thought? He is not buying his own BS.

  228. HoHo says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The weirdest thing is when a person distrusts his/her government, then makes an argument BASED on the government’s “data.” By the way, if you do “trust” the government, it said people died from “covid” is about 5 to 6 percent in its weekly report since the scam. Isn’t it funny that the range of flu deaths in recent years is between 30K-60K per year?

  229. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    If and when ” the anti-vaxxers will eventually be proved right” it will almost certainly be the data-driven ones like RFK Jr., not the wild-eyed doomsayers Ron criticizes.

    Slingin’ the Ad Hom and going for broke with No True Scotsman; good job, Kev.

    Man, and I always looked forward to storytime with you & E. Michael every month or so – now it’s a big turd in the punchbowl for me . . . bummer.

    Oh well, since you’re here, and if it’s not too personal, I’ve always wondered: ‘How’d a nice CheeseHead like you get mixed-up with Islam?’.

    My money’s on there was a cute booty involved.

    • LOL: JM
  230. @Jefferson Temple

    A glaring omission, one that is highly suspect.

  231. ia says:

    Ron, I’ve tracked since 2/2/20 that CDC page you link to in the first graph.

    It takes many weeks to get all the reported deaths into the system. So, the last several months are always low because of this.

    Secondly, they did an “upgrade” starting June 6 that has mysteriously caused ALL death numbers to drop as much as 1,500 per week or roughly 6,000 per month. This affects all deaths starting at the beginning of 2022.

    Very odd don’t you think?

    I have the pre-“upgrade” figures and it seems there was a movement towards increasing death rates beginning around the first of May 2022, while the 3-year (2017-2019) historical average continues into downward summer numbers. Suddenly, the all death numbers decrease in the non-new format after that point. In fact, all numbers starting in 2022 are lower than the pre-“upgrade.”

    I have a graph in my mac Numbers program that shows the % difference of post-Covid deaths to 3-year pre-Covid average but don’t know how to upload into your site. There was a strong downward trend starting in the middle of February but as I said there was an unusual upward trend in May.

  232. Ron Unz has demonstrated how to lose credibility forever in the real world: cite the CDC.

    • Replies: @Bigs
  233. I think it’s pretty clear by now that the vaccinations didn’t have the effect our “experts” said it would. That and the totalitarian shenanigans by various public health clowns trying to remove the comparison set by enforcing vaccinations ought to be enough to put this issue to sleep forever. The vaccines didn’t work; they didn’t prevent transmission, they don’t lower your chances of getting the disease, and it looks like they offered little to slightly negative protective effects to people who did get the disease. The people touting them have lower credibility than flat earthers, and it boggles my mind that anyone could attempt to assert otherwise.

    I think it’s pretty clear these “vaccines” were shilled by an unholy alliance of sinister corporations and government operatives; that in itself is newsworthy and insanely dangerous. The corporate censorship of any counter narratives is unprecedented in times of peace, and ought to be something actual journalists look into, along with their likely origin as a US government project.

    While you can dig up crazy people saying 700 million people will eventually die of the remedy, there are other more honest interlocutors who notice that the numbers are more likely in the tens of thousands. And that the protective effects of the things are nil.

    FWIIW deaths in the US are still much higher than before 2019; looks on track to match what happened in 2020 and 2021. Go have a look at my gist, taking data on total mortality straight from the CDC website: https://gist.github.com/locklin/94b7f758ece1ea347fcd000e308545cd
    There’s more data since I wrote that; modulo the seasonal dip in total deaths you get in the summer time every year, it looks on track to be a banner year for people dying in the US. Maybe it’s just from people being more sedentary and fat, but with the advent of ridiculous neologisms like “sudden adult death syndrome” you’d think it’s worth looking into.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  234. Jim H says:
    @Ron Unz

    ‘The VAERS database is apparently open to the public and allows “unverified reports,” so it’s easy to imagine “excitable” anti-vaxxers swarming it and leaving large numbers of complaints.’ — Ron Unz

    ‘Imagine’ being the key word. We’ll ignore the pejorative “excitable.”

    A VAERS filing requires an affidavit and a validated filer identity, both under penalty of perjury. People don’t just spam VAERS as they would an internet poll.

    Among the most ardent anti-vax figures with scientific and medical credentials, please show us even one who advocated filing a false VAERS report.

    There is no such advocate and no such phenomenon. As admitted, it is merely ‘imagined.’

    Meanwhile, VAERS shows substantially more adverse events for covid vaccines — 1.34 million at present — than for all other vaccines combined since 1990.

    Supposed “unverified reports” (which apply to pre-covid years as well) cannot explain a safety signal this massive and persistent.

    Disparaging VAERS is a signature trope of Big Pharma co-opted individuals. Sadly, we see it here in full flower, with zero supporting data. That’s awfully weak tea from a data-driven researcher.

    • Replies: @Wade
    , @Ron Unz
  235. geokat62 says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Is this laser focus on his preferred research, or just plain old tunnel vision?

    … or?

  236. @Marcion

    Sure. Use 0.25 as the ratio for years of life lost between an average Covid death and a vaccine death. Which I think is an under-estimate because people can live on for decades even with several co-morbidities.

    But even if we agree on that ratio, 0.25 * 1 million = 250,000 deaths is 10 times larger than 25,000 vaccine deaths. So on aggregate, vaccines could save net years of life in spite of being dangerous and fatal for some.

    In the end, it boils down to cost-benefit analysis at an individual level, and I don’t think Ron disagrees with that approach. Healthy young — let’s say younger than 40 — have negative cost-benefits and older folks — let’s say older than 65 — and / or relatively unhealthy have positive cost-benefits, and for anyone in between aggregate level analysis is not going to be conclusive.

    Will be extremely helpful to understand which genetic traits and which parts of medical records are predictors for short and long-term mRNA vaccine damage especially in younger population, but unrealistic to expect that transparency from the private-public biopharma cabal that runs everything health-related in the western world.

    • Replies: @Passing By
  237. JimDandy says:
    @Ron is Right

    Remaining one-fourth of deaths is below 65.

    And the overwhelming majority of those were obese with multiple comorbidities. I don’t know or care what was happening in India, healthy non-elderly people don’t die of Covid in America. And your assertion that the negative effects of the vaccines are revealed soon after they are given is totally unfounded. The vaccine does not slow the spread, yet now more and more pressure is being put on parents to get their five-year-olds vaccinated. The vaccine mandates are the biggest scandal in American history, even if pointing this out distracts from theories that the virus was unleashed as a bioweapon.

  238. @RobinG

    You still have not answered the question. They remain closed to this day. Ron nor anyone else has explained this, while all other countries are open.

  239. @Dumbo

    It was obvious for any idiot that the whole panic about COVID was about approving and selling those mRNA vaccines.

    …and that assertion lends itself to the reality that the “experimental gene therapeutics” is the bioweapon. He just won’t admit that.

  240. @Thim

    My point exactly. And they continue to use Lockdown while no other country does. Not a peep out of Ron or any other commentator about this anomaly.

  241. Geo Ha says:

    Therefore, if you’re an Ohioan, you’re 2.7*123 ~ 330 times more likely to die of the “thing” than if you’re Chinese.

  242. @Zachary Smith

    The MMR will make you more autistic than you already are.

  243. Agent76 says:

    July 9, 2022 Will the Tragic Fate of World Stars like Celine Dion and Justin Bieber Open the Eyes of their Fans? Impacts of Covid-19 Vaccine Celine Dion and Justin Bieber, same tragic destiny after Covid vaccines

    Sustained by media disinformation and fake science, the mRNA vaccine was put forth as a solution to curbing the pandemic. Amply documented, the Covid-19 Vaccine has triggered from the outset in December 2020 an upward trend in mortality and morbidity. The evidence is overwhelming.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/will-the-tragic-fate-of-world-stars-like-celine-dion-and-justin-bieber-open-the-eyes-of-their-fans-impacts-of-covid-19-vaccine/5783700

    07/08/22 MORE THAN 1.3 MILLION ADVERSE EVENTS FOLLOWING COVID VACCINES REPORTED TO VAERS, CDC DATA SHOW

    VAERS data released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show 1,329,135 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID-19 vaccines, including 29,273 deaths and 241,910 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020, and July 1, 2022.

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/1-3-million-adverse-events-covid-vaccines-vaers-cdc-data-show/

  244. @dimples

    It was obvious for any idiot that the whole panic about COVID was about approving and selling those mRNA vaccines.

    …and that assertion lends itself to the reality that the “experimental gene therapeutics” is the bioweapon. He just won’t admit that.

  245. Ron Unz says:
    @Greta Handel

    Meanwhile, under last week’s requel, Mr. Unz ignored several challenging comments and questions, including whether he thinks that those who have so far foregone the shot(s) should now be rolling up our sleeves.

    Actually, one reason I decided to write this column was that you and various other agitated anti-vaxxers had been bitterly complaining that we hadn’t recently published any vaxxing articles for your comments, and you were therefore cluttering up my other columns with your off-topic nonsense.

    Since it had been six months since my last vaxxing piece, I decided it was time for another one, especially since the six months of additional data might help clarify the issue.

  246. @Achmed E. Newman

    I know someone who died with and because of covid. He didn’t have any health problem and he died before there was the vaccine. Other people I know also know of people who died with covid before the vaccine and they weren’t old and sick. Nobody would have vaccinated themselves if it hadn’t been the case that many people had already died when the vaccine was finally available. Why were so many people dying before the vaccine?

    You don’t doubt that covid kills, only the numbers. But apparently the numbers are sound or consistent in the whole world. I imagine the statistics about this involve a large number of people who have different views and different motivations, they are not a closed group of people with similar aims.

    I don’t see how governments could lie so easily about that. And I don’t see why they would lie. To get taxes on the vaccines? This doesn’t make sense. The government had to pay the vaccines. On the other hand, in the case of the war, a lot of people are visibly afraid of deviating from the official view. You notice this when they speak. Even though, there are people who have secure positions, who have already retired and are ready to express different views. Their numbers are growing. In this case we know from which group the propaganda for war comes. They are an heterogeneous group which has similar aims, to promote a war. Of course the weapons industry and the military, but also (primarly) the neoconservative. These are large and powerful groups who have acted for a long time visibly.

  247. JimB says:

    Young anti-vaxxers have a rational case. The cost of cardiac damage greatly outweighs the benefit of avoiding the mild symptoms they are likely to get with covid. Old anti-vaxxers have a less rational case, especially if they have comorbidities like obesity and diabetes. Ron’s one size-fits-all view of antivaxxers seems narrow minded to me.

    Most of the people killed off by covid were past their years of peak productivity. However, the young with their whole lives ahead of them faced a greater danger from the vaccine than covid. In some sense, the vaccine hasnt really mattered much because the US kept schools and offices shut down for political reasons long after herd immunity took hold, and the number of essential productive workers, vaccinated or otherwise, struck down by covid was insignificant.

    • Agree: Olivier1973
  248. Ron Unz says:
    @Geo Ha

    If this is a bioweapon directed at China, please explain why china has fewer covid deaths than Ohio.

    Sometimes ill-intentioned plans fail and rebound upon their perpetrators. For example, back in the 1960s the Weather Underground terrorists in NYC blew themselves up while building bombs.

    Here’s the metaphorical scenario I described in one of my articles last year:

    Suppose two neighbors are feuding, and one of them has a psychopathic teenage son, who sneaks out late at night and starts an arson fire next door to “teach them a lesson.”

    But the victimized family smells smoke, wakes up, and using heroic effort puts the fire out with only fairly minor damage.

    Meanwhile, the fire spreads back to the teenager’s own house, and since the family is too lazy and incompetent to bother doing anything, the house catches on fire and burns to the ground, killing several relatives and leaving everyone homeless.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-george-orwells-virus-lab-leak/#the-case-for-an-american-biowarfare-attack

    • Replies: @Geo Ha
  249. More than a dozen years ago Obama official Cass Sunstein had famously suggested that the best way to defeat “conspiracy theorists” was to have the government or its allies actively promote a wide range of their own conspiratorial theories, especially ridiculous ones, thereby contaminating and discrediting the plausible accusations that they actually feared.

    Given the way you have preferred to focus on the farther-out theories that seek to explain the massive deception aimed at us, Mr.Unz, and paint all covid-jab critics with that brush, while refusing to address the more solid arguments, you might see it’s not too far a stretch to wonder if you are part of such a Sunstein gambit.

    As for intense hostility, well, frequently repeating highly dubious claims (like the official # of US Covid deaths) while refusing to address basic facts that call them into question; name calling and employing frequent & glaring rhetorical/logical fallacies; then claiming disinterest in the topic and ignoring or censoring reasonable counter-arguments — just might have that effect.

    I pointed out the rhetorical fallacies you employed in your last post, but was not allowed to get through until the thread had run out of steam, so it bears repeating, on the chance that this time I’m allowed a voice in a timely manner:

    https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/

    – appeal to ridicule
    – composition
    – division
    – suppressed evidence
    – guilt by association
    – straw man

    Smells like pilpul.

    And, for the record, none of the four censored comments I made to your last post were any less civil than you have been; perhaps more civil, since I don’t believe they included any instances of red-herring rhetorical insults to intelligence.

  250. Ron Unz says:
    @Scott Locklin

    While you can dig up crazy people saying 700 million people will eventually die of the remedy, there are other more honest interlocutors who notice that the numbers are more likely in the tens of thousands.

    Look, Martin sounds like “crazy people” to me but apparently he’s taken very seriously by all sorts of anti-vaxxers, including those with major podcast platforms. I was surprised myself.

    As for deaths “in the tens of thousands” that’s exactly what I suggested in my own column, so you’re simply endorsing my position. But keep in mind that something like 15-20 million people worldwide have already died of Covid itself, so we’re talking about a difference of close to three orders of magnitude.

    FWIIW deaths in the US are still much higher than before 2019; looks on track to match what happened in 2020 and 2021. Go have a look at my gist, taking data on total mortality straight from the CDC website:

    January was extremely high and despite a huge drop, so was February. But March was actually below the 2020 figure and April and May are quite low. Obviously, we’ll need to wait a few more months to see, but I’ll bet that if we exclude January, the entire year will pretty close to the 2019 total or even noticeably below.

    If the vaccines are that dangerous, this wouldn’t make any sense. And those results would also suggest that they do provide reasonable protection against severe Covid symptoms.

  251. @Buzz Mohawk

    Ron Unz and the Goldman Sacks guys? Yeah, that cracks me up, every time he writes it. He thinks they are the smart guys because they make the big money. OK… Anyway, I figured you “wore the pants”, so to speak, and that a mathematician and you would make a real solid decisions.

    That pilot’s not my friend but a friend of a friend. He’s 58, but if he’d had any type of heart problem before that shows up in a resting EKG, they’d have seen it before. My family member who just died went from having low pressure enough to worry a few doctors her whole life to having to take pills for high BP. That there’s a lot of strange stuff going on with this vax, Buzz, I have no doubt.

    My initial decision was that I had nothing to gain by taking this vaccine, due to I (and my wife) not being overweight and the Covid not being the big deal it was made out to be. (I will say that none of us have had any kind of lung ailments, so that’s important.) Like you too, we also exercise and have been eating fairly healthy (though I gotta watch it, myself).

    As I wrote above, besides no expected benefit from the vaccine, I did not take it due to the loss of my principles that, I’ll be danged it I’m gonna let the Gov or Big-Biz mandate this on me. After the many health problems I’ve seen and read about, well, I see even more risk now.

    .

    PS: All of us got the Covid, version whatever, a few months back – no appetite, weakness, and that. I

    • Replies: @europeasant
  252. jimbojones says: • Website

    Year Total Deaths
    2019 2,854,838
    2020 3,390,079
    2021 3,471,557

    How come there were more deaths in 2021 than in 2020 despite ~70% of the population getting vaxxed? Either the “vaccines” don’t work or they kill or both. Either way the “anti-vaxxers” carry the day.

    David Martin appears to be going through the shock of getting “red-pilled” and bringing up his views is pure straw-man. The argued and defensible position on vaxx deaths is Steve Kirsch’s. He claims 400k, which is in line with 2021 mortality statistics. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/latest-vaers-estimate-388000-americans

    Also, why bother with “vaccines” if there exist multiple treatment protocols (Kory, McCullough, Zelenko) than actually do provide 90% protection? This is a powerful argument that does not even need to touch on the efficacy or toxicity of the vaxx.

    Apart from the vaxx, did the lockdowns do any good? Multiple papers (from USC, John Hopkins and the British Office of Statistics) say they did not.

    These questions are as serious as the war. Millions of lives were destroyed with the insane “pandemic” policies. Accountability must be sought or more disasters will come from the crowd that gave us the mandates.

  253. Ron Unz says:
    @archimedes

    Why doesn’t China use vaccines for Covid? Do they know something we don’t know?

    Well, the vaccines are only so-so in effectiveness and until Omicron, the Chinese had been able to completely suppress any major Covid outbreaks for almost two years, which is much more effective than vaxxing. However, Omicron is so extremely contagious that their methods failed, and now they’ve had to go back to lockdowns, which is causing them all sorts of problems.

  254. @Buzz Mohawk

    Good for you Buzz.
    I rather prefer “to live” not under any coercive means substantiated by gross disinfo and propaganda,
    rather than be “allowed” a lifestyle of prostituted servitude.

    My wife is the same. She is 72; I am 62.
    You two were lucky to get a placebo.

  255. @Dystopian

    that is NOT true. First of all, these entire co-research between the U.S. and 2-3 research institutes in Wuhan was decided by Local authorities. NOT by the Chinese Central gov.! The Central gov. had NO idea about such research at all.

    Before 2020, China had NO national regulation about this type of research at all. The National law about bioweapon research is ONLY proposed and passed in mid-2020 AFTER the sudden Covid Eruption. So those Corona virus research was decided between Hu Bei Provinces/Wuhan local gov. and the U.S. organizations WITHOUT the Chinese Central gov. knowing about it!

    Plus, those several institutes in Wuhan just wanted to learn some advanced technology by co-op with the U.S. , and they were being taken advantage of!! Yes, several research institutes in Wuhan made some money out of the U.S. funding, but that is about it! If only they knew this is bioweapon research, NO way they would have done this.

    Your blaming of the Chinese gov. as an accomplice of the U.S. bioweapon research is completely Baseless! And it is laughable.

    It is the U.S. who invested Billions of billions of tax payers money doing bioweapon research Since before WWII was over. And then the U.S. took in thousands of bioweapon researchers from both Nazi Germany and Japan.

    And guess what? China has learned the lessons. So next big pandemic from bioweapon release will have NOTHING to do with China! But they will still have everything to do with the U.S.!

  256. @JasonT

    In the end Unz is still a jew. Untrustworthy to say the least.

  257. @Ron Unz

    The fact that you’re a typical duplicitous jew has been clarified.

  258. @Achmed E. Newman

    I can find the place on the globe, and unlike the vast majority of Putinstans on this site I’ve been and lived in those places on the globe. Mr. Putin is in fact bad, very bad. Being so jaded and cucked by your government, you now run into the arms of something that is even worse due to the most pedestrian propaganda since the tiktok vax dances. So next time you shill your “”peak stupidity”” blog, perhaps write something on self-awareness.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  259. @Dumbo

    I haven’t heard Ron utter a single word about “lockdowns”.

    Two-or-so years ago, when lockdown was a recent thing in California, he sang its praise as, if I remember correctly, having ‘saved perhaps a million lives’ or something to that effect.

    • Replies: @Harley Rider
  260. Dear Ron:

    I’m in the process of reading “Young Colorado Man Reluctantly Took Covid Jab To Travel And Had To Undergo Emergency Surgery, After Multiple Blood Clots Formed In His Leg” – https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-07-17-colorado-man-covid-jab-emergency-surgery-multiple-blood-clots.html# . Other stories come to mind, such as when the “vaccines” were first released in the UK, within 24 hours two recipients presented with anaphylactic shock, 4 more with Bell’s palsy. If you look on places like Brighteon, Rumble or Bitchute you can still watch Tiffany Dover die from The Lethal Injection within minutes of having taken it, right in the middle of her triumphal denouement. I’ve read the story of little Ámbar Suárez of Argentina, given The Kill Shot at 3 so she could attend Jr. Kindergarten. Dead the next day of a heart attack. 3-year-olds do not have heart attacks. Or how about Ernesto Ramirez, took the Poison Death Shot at 16, dead a week later, his heart swollen to twice the size it should have been. 16-year-olds do not die of advanced myocarditis. How many stories like this am I aware since the “vaccines” were first released in November 2020? Hundreds of them – but there are actually 10s of thousands. But you – pardon me for being blunt – issue this atrocious, Big-Pharma-serving, utterly clueless shit?

    You write of “the tremendous crackpottery of the anti-Vaxx movement” but I’ve watched Del Bigtree’s Vaxxed: From Cover up to Catastrophe: Just learning how Big Pharma coerced legislatures across The West to grant them complete indemnity from liability for their vaccine products in 1986 – an indemnity that continues to this day – is all the justification you need to be a rabid “antivaxxer.” Furthermore, Pfizer, J&J and AstraZeneca (Moderna during its existence until now has never sold anything to anyone) are all criminal felons that have paid out billions of dollars in damages to thousands of plaintiffs over the decades – but not for vaccines: As I said: If you take any vaccine and you are injured, you can’t sue. Industry propaganda to the contrary, vaccine injuries were not “1 in a million”: They are more like “1 in 43”, and include delicacies such as blindness, deafness, paralysis (sometimes total), autoimmune disorders, strokes, psychosis and brain-damage. Since being granted “emergency authorization” (they are not approved and certainly not licensed) the Covid-19 injections have already gained nasty associations with heart attacks, strokes, idiopathic thrombosis, idiopathic thrombocytopenia, the development of massive bloodclots, sudden onset of myocarditis/pericarditis and, let’s not forget, Death… People are dropping like flies, all over the planet, having taken these injections. 2.7% of recipients are dead within the first two weeks. The CDC / FDA (not sure which) has dodged that bullet by opining recipients are “not fully vaccinated” until 2 weeks after injection. So if they die before? Just bad luck. Just “coincidence.” But you won’t ever hear a breath of this on your television news, not so much because it’s bought and paid for by Big Pharma, but because “The Powers That Shouldn’t Be”, own both. Have a look instead at websites like: https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/, https://www.nvic.org/, https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/, https://www.nvic.org/, https://childrenshealthdefence.org, https://globalresearch.ca, https://thecovidblog.com or https://vaccineimpact.com. There’s likely dozens more.

    The evidence these injections will be the worst medical catastrophe in history is be to found anywhere on the Internet you care to look, despite Big Tech censorship. All-cause mortality since the “vaccines” came out is up 40%. Miscarriages in “vaccinated” pregnant women are up, 2,000% over norm. Cancer rates are up, 7,500% over norm. “Vaccinated” airline pilots are dropping dead at the controls. “Vaccinated” professional sports players are dropping dead in the field. Orthodox Medicine is suddenly talking about “SADS”: “A complete mystery” they’re saying, except it’s patently obvious what’s causing it. Qualified medical doctors and PhDs (Judy Mikovits, Sherry Tenpenny) are coolly predicting the death of 50 million Americans. But YOU choose to author and publish this disgraceful, ill-informed, ill-considered, clueless and stupid drivel, backed up by highly questionable self-serving “data” from Big Pharma? I’d sooner take my chances with the Medellín Cartel.

    I’m bitterly disappointed in you, I expected far better; I will never trust anything you write, ever again.

    Sincerely,
    Roy Bauchman

    • Agree: Towey
    • Thanks: Alden, Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @UncommonGround
  261. @MattinLA

    Agree. For some reason, Ron is dragging red herrings across the trail. That the vaccines don’t and didn’t prevent infection was plain from the start, as it was stated on Pfizer’s own webpage from day one.

    Ron keeps going on about lunatics but in doing so avoids the main questions raised by skeptics, and that is “Why should I get the shot?”. Every experienced epidemiologist has stated that getting the disease and surviving (which confers natural immunity to the whole family of diseases) is the better option when compared to an endless string of somewhat-partial-immunity-conferring shots.

    Every person I know who has been vaxed has gotten Covid. None have died. Of the people I know who didn’t get the shot, none have gotten Covid–or if they had gotten it, their symptoms were not noticeable so neither they nor anyone else knew for sure that they had contracted it. In other words, they neither needed nor sought medical help. Just anecdotal, but still.

    Ron conveniently forgets about the co-morbidities of obesity and age. This alone renders his arguments useless.

    From the start I said, right on this site, that everyone would “get” Covid. The stronger of us would shrug it off. I am strong. I chose not to get the shot. The rest of you are and were free to do as you pleased, using your own judgement while taking into account your own understanding of your own immune systems. I can’t speak for you. Ron can’t speak for me.

    The entire thing hinges on “asymptomatic spreaders”. The argument of the fanatical vax promoters (NPR and the like) stipulates that since any of us–we the unvaxxed–could be spreaders, therefore, we’re all potential murderers. But very intelligent, experienced scientists have come out and stated that asymptomatic spreading is a myth. They have stated publicly that those who are in spreader mode know it because it is obvious to them that they have the disease. So, if you display the symptoms, stay at home.

    The vaxed whom I know recoiled from me when introduced at parties once they realized that I had not been vaxed. To them, I was a murderer, a Typhoid Mary spreading the disease to any and all with whom I came into contact. But again, they believe in asymptomatic spreaders.

    But their argument can just as well be turned around.

    Since the vaccination helps suppress symptoms, then it is more likely that the vaxxed will inadvertently spread Covid through social contact.

    And that is exactly what appears to be the case, as we saw with the planeload of Democratic politicians, the British Royal family, my own in-laws etc.

    This brings us to the uncomfortable–for them–conclusion that the vaxxed, in their vanity and ignorance, spread the disease among themselves.

    And that, my friends, is that.

    • Agree: Mark Hunter
  262. Wade says:
    @Jim H

    Not to mention a vast majority of these reports are being filed by the patient’s doctor or nurse. The reports are far more credible than Ron is giving credit. I think he may only have a cursory understanding of the controversy surrounding the VAERS and the CDC’s silence (and lies, see my comment above) regarding VAERS.

    • Replies: @Jim H
  263. A123 says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    it’s still very cost-effective from the medical perspective, at least for individuals who are over 50.

    This is exactly the sort of distinction I tried to make in my piece. There’s a gigantic difference between claiming that the Covid vaccines will kill 10K or 20K Americans and claiming that they’ll kill 75 million or 100 million Americans.

    If you restate as “over 50 & with preexisting conditions” that represents those who have the most to gain by participating in the experimental vaccine program.

    Very few people are predicting 1/4 of the national population as a death rate.

    The larger concern is potential long term unknowns with the rushed to market mRNA method. Limiting the recipient pool to those beyond child bearing age heads off an entire category of potential reproductive issues.

    What Vaxx-Realists want most is an end to the things that make no sense. For example:

        • Mandatory vaccination to remain employed or go to school.
        • Rules about wearing surgical masks that are effectively useless.
        • Vaxx Passport ID checks “papers please” that could easily be misused. And, they desensitize the public to other central government overreach.

    Leftoid authoritarians ignore the science and promote fear to maintain control. They also want to enrich BigPharma at taxpayer expense.

    The VAERS database is apparently open to the public and allows “unverified reports,” so it’s easy to imagine “excitable” anti-vaxxers swarming it and leaving large numbers of complaints

    Given that death is easily checked, it seems unlikely that there is material over reporting on that outcome. The reverse is much more probable. Those who were already sick then pushed over the edge by the vaccine are not captured. The VAERS # of ~30K is primarily those where there is no other credible explanation. The actual number is likely substantially higher.

    PEACE 😇

  264. Ron Unz says:

    I think it’s also worth raising a much broader point…

    Many of the anti-vaxxers here claim that the vaccine issue is much more important than the origin of the Covid outbreak itself. I tend to disagree with that, but I can understand why some people would prefer to focus in that direction.

    But here’s something to consider. There are probably many dozens or even hundreds of conspiracy-activists heavily focusing on the vaxxing question, while for two years I’ve been almost alone on the Internet in presenting the strong evidence for an American biowarfare attack. Does that disproportion make any logical sense?

    The anti-vaxxers are forced to gather their evidence from relatively obscure sources and then argue that all the public data about total American death rates provided by the CDC is fraudulent. They also have to explain why every mutually-hostile country in the world, including America, Russia, China, Israel, and Iran, seems to be part of the same conspiracy.

    Meanwhile, my evidence comes from ABC News, the front pages of the New York Times, and other absolutely mainstream sources. And it very strongly implicates elements of the American government in the deaths of more than a million Americans.

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

    Isn’t the totally disproportionate focus on these two different topics across the entire alternative media rather odd and even suspicious?

    I’d guess that the number of podcast hours devoted to the two avenues of exploration is more than 1000-to-1.

  265. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Random Anonymous

    I just wish Ron would get one of these guys to write something on the subject, and engage with them.
    [list]

    Especially Steve Kirsch since their backgrounds are similarly rigorous (Harvard and theoretical physics, MIT and electrical engineering).

    • Replies: @Random Anonymous
  266. Beagle says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Dershowitz explicitly said Buck v. Bell is good law when pushing mandatory shots on TV. But he thought it would be unseemly to cite it given the history, which he didn’t delve into whatsoever.

    So yeah, mandatory sex changes, boob jobs, botox, whatever the state fancies I guess.

    • Replies: @Vasily
  267. DYL says:

    Say hi to Fauci, Schwab , Gates, neocons , kazhars

    GO TO NUREMBERG 2.0

    TIC.TAC.TIC.TAC

    Cuanta ciscada hay que leer

    C¨mon Make My DAY
    ..
    .

  268. @Ron Unz

    Flailing, failing.

    1. Why have you blockquoted what I wrote, only to continue ignoring the question? It’s sincere and — since you’ve kicked the nest — pertinent.

    2. And you may want to reconsider this:

    you and various other agitated anti-vaxxers had been bitterly complaining that we hadn’t recently published any vaxxing articles for your comments

    I recall posting nothing that could be fairly described in this way. To the contrary, I’ve said that these columns have become a tiresome troll. Can you (or anyone else) please cite what Greta Handel comment(s) you’re talking about?

  269. Chebyshev says:
    @Ron Unz

    Who specifically could have been promoting the anti-vaccine conspiracy theories as a conscious strategy to distract people from the biowarfare origin of the virus? Sunstein fans in the mainstream and alternative media or on social media?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  270. Beagle says:
    @FreeAssange

    The dirty secret of eugenics is it has long been a plaything for people too rich to chase money any more, driven by Malthus, Galton, Darwin and other scientific luminaries. Of course nobody who supported it imagined they themselves might be culled or neutered. It broke into pop science in the early 20th Century. Both Roosevelts, Churchill, Margaret Sanger, the other Huxley brother, etc., supported it.

    When Hitler pushed eugenics he was quite popular in mass media. It’s a hard thing to imagine perceptions from other times. But you can still hear the echoes in Bill Gates, John Holdren, Ted Turner, Paul Ehrlich, Oprah, Warren Buffett, George Soros, Bloomberg, and so on.

    I dug up a link without a paywall which might seem suspect. But the Times UK and many other mainstream papers covered this 13 years ago, as mentioned in the article.

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/971213

  271. geokat62 says:
    @windwaves

    For what it matters, here I am, in my 50s, athlete all my life including now, take zero drugs, never had anything serious at all whatsoever, suddenly I am told I have Graves Disease.

    Sorry to hear that, windwaves. My wife has a close relative who’s 13 year old daughter has been hospitalised for an extended period with a heart condition shortly after being injected.

    Curious to see if other Unzers have friends and family that have experienced any serious adverse events from these injections.

    • Replies: @Harley Rider
  272. I trust the Pfizer Corporation.
    I trust the Moderna Corporation.
    I trust the Astra Zeneca Corporation.
    I trust the Johnson & Johnson Corporation.
    I trust the Food & Drug Administration.
    I trust the National Institutes of Health.
    I trust the Centers for Disease Control.
    I trust the U.S. Government.
    I trust the World Health Organization.
    I trust The Science.

  273. @JasonT

    Excellent response Jason, thank you. He also left out the near total blackout of initial treatment for COVID which enabled millions of hospitalizations and deaths. Ever heard of coldeeze Ron? Simple little zinc drops for the cold and flu season that ease symptoms? Doctors who actually care were dumbfounded when no one in government actually talked about treating symptoms with cheap and effective vitamins/anti-virals like D3, Zinc, Quercetin and Ivermectin. In fact, they were deplatformed and derided as quacks with those of us who tried to pass along that message also snuffed out on social media. Why was/is normal treatment quashed Ron?

  274. @Ron is Right

    What is the risk for people under 40 from Covid? What is the risk for people under 40 from the jabs? Do you consider that in order to “protect” 80yr olds, it is OK to put at risk 10yr olds with jabs knowing that they risk close to zero from Covid. Btw, how much real protection do the jabs provide from Covid? There’s been a flurry of studies recently, do a search.
    Oh, also, my then 76yr old mother has had Covid, it was tough but she survived it. I love my mother very much but I will never ever ask parents to put their kids at risk with jabs even if they were efficient to protect my mother b/c it happens to be bloody immoral to use kids as human shields.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  275. @Levtraro

    Nonsense.

    It was a sophisticated, blitzkrieg psyop, including a massive disinformation campaign to deny people informed consent, while threatening them with loss of career (or years & \$ already invested in education, for students).

    Add denial of early, safe, effective treatments that REAL doctors rapidly developed in 2020, leading to millions of preventable deaths worldwide.

    And implementation of pandemic responses in violation of all established standards, leading to immense, senseless global economic destruction which, along with countless knock-on effects, damaged the lives of hundreds of millions, or more likely billions.

    But you see no grounds for a tribunal.

    You remind me of a friend-of-a-friend who wanted to split hairs on whether or not the GW Bush administration technically lied to get us into the war in Iraq.

    Reply if you’d like, you’ll get the last word. I have no patience for this kind of smart-stupid, and others have set you straight before to no avail.

    • Agree: Liberty Mike, roonaldo
    • Thanks: Mario Partisan
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  276. Anonymous[771] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    You cite the same bogus mainstream data as any other pro-vax pundit. Who, really, gives a shit about your pet theory? That’s nothing but set dressing. The data is all that matters, and all you cite is the same debunked MSM slop.

  277. @Harry Gonad

    There were very safe and effective treatments available but these were viciously suppressed.

    Like monoclonal antibodies. Very expensive.

    • Replies: @Harry Gonad
  278. geokat62 says:
    @Wade

    There’s so much material for a world class American Pravda piece but for whatever reason Ron doesn’t want to dig into the subject matter. Instead we get the occasional distraction about what the crazies are complaining about now.

    Truly outstanding post… chock full of fascinating information. Thank you for posting it.

  279. My opinion as a person who had covid with symptoms and a sister who had zero. I had the first 2 shots.

    Get the vaccine if you are old and or with serious illness.

    If you are young and healthy, and you are willing to take a chance being unvaccinated, go for it.

  280. Harry Gonad says: • Website
    @Olivier1973

    There were safe and cheap prophylaxis and treatments available such as Ivermectin but these were viciously suppressed which resulted in millions of deaths. The shots are neither safe nor effective and many were forced to take them to keep their jobs.

    This is all truly evil.

    • Agree: Passing By, ariadna
    • Thanks: Jim H
  281. @UncommonGround

    Had the unfortunate people you write of been treated with HCQ, Ivermectin, or both, they might well be alive. Neither of these drugs has ever killed anyone, yet Fauci and the CDC have at one time or another totally banned or actively discouraged their use, and the media have screamed from Day 1 that “fact checking” proves that they are useless and indeed dangerous drugs. All lies.

    I am not asking you to believe me. Rather, look at the website of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, or FLCCC. The alliance has a worldwide membership, and all members who are MDs or nurses have successfully treated COVID patients with Ivermectin or HCQ. Although many of the FLCCC doctors don’t have a strong opinion about vaccination one way or the other or are actively pro-vaxx,* they all agree that there is no point in expending a vast amount of time and money on unproved vaccines when safe and reliable cures for this disease—or for any other disease for that matter—are at hand.
    _________
    *For the record, I am hard-core anti-vaxx.

    • Agree: Beagle, ariadna, Marcion, JM
    • Replies: @Beagle
  282. jujubean says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    Ron’s denial of the mRNA death therapy is the price he pays for staying alive, vaxxed or not. You don’t last long if you call out the amphibians for what they are and reveal their strategies. It’s too bad though, makes him less genuine and capable of disinfo.

  283. Jim H says:
    @Wade

    ‘Not to mention a vast majority of these VAERS reports are being filed by the patient’s doctor or nurse.’ — Wade

    … when they have time. Multiple testimonies from nurses and doctors state that administrators told them not to spend time filing VAERS reports, which can be as burdensome as assembling the paperwork to file a tax return.

    Likewise, the VAERS input portal does not save partially completed reports. If a health care worker doesn’t commit an hour to wrap up the report, their effort is lost.

    Accordingly, it is widely believed that VAERS totals are undercounted by a factor of ten or more — implying global totals of 13 million adverse events; 1.6 million hospitalizations; 295,000 deaths; half a million permanent disabilities.

    An FDA and CDC which do not act to protect public safety in the face of such overwhelmingly large signals are hopelessly co-opted. They ignore VAERS because its inconvenient facts do not fit their wholly fictional ‘safe and effective’ narrative.

    Like Dr Mengele, they are performing a depraved experiment on human subjects, many of whom DID NOT CONSENT and were unethically pressured via threats of discipline, loss of employment, and eviction of those in nursing homes.

    • Agree: Beagle
    • Replies: @Wade
  284. geokat62 says:
    @Passing By

    … b/c it happens to be bloody immoral to use kids as human shields.

    hmmmmm… now, whose military specialises in using kids as human shields?

  285. Rich says:
    @UncommonGround

    I know someone who died a week after taking his booster shot. He was in good health and had no prior medical problems. I know a fellow with MS who was talked into taking the vaxx and saw his very mild symptoms become much more serious. A young woman of my acquaintance has developed severe migraine headaches since taking the shot. And my anecdotal evidence goes on and on. The fact is that over 90% of those who were listed as dying from covid were already senior citizens. There was absolutely no reason to force people to take the experimental drug. None.

  286. @UncommonGround

    He didn’t have any health problem and he died before there was the vaccine.

    How is it possible to be healthy eating and drinking yankee food?
    Healthy? What was his blood pressure? Vitamine D level? Physical activity? Stress? Pollution? Etc.

    I don’t see how governments could lie so easily about that. And I don’t see why they would lie.

    There is a name for that: corruption. The Swiss government ordered 32 millions doses. Population of Switzerland is 8 millions. Contracts are confidential. No responsibility of any kind for the pharmas. Nor for anyone.

  287. Jim H says:
    @Ron Unz

    ‘my evidence comes from ABC News, the front pages of the New York Times, and other absolutely mainstream sources.’ — Ron Unz

    That is, the same ‘absolutely mainstream’ sources which are giving us such objective, factual, balanced reporting on the Ukraine?

    Yes, the same ‘absolutely mainstream’ sources who told us throughout 2016 that Hillary was wayyyyyy ahead and a lock for becoming president.

    Those mainstream sources?

    Absent a smoking-gun document leak, the American biowarfare attack angle is unlikely ever to be proven, and is of theoretical interest only to a small, historically-informed minority.

    Whereas thanks to vaccine mandates and passports, unethical pressure on people to take the jab is a serious issue with serious consequences. It generates a thousand times more interest when public authority is being atrociously abused, and gets right in our faces with snarls, threats and denials of access, travel and employment.

  288. A123 says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    But here’s something to consider. There are probably many dozens or even hundreds of conspiracy-activists heavily focusing on the vaxxing question, while for two years I’ve been almost alone on the Internet in presenting the strong evidence for an American biowarfare attack. Does that disproportion make any logical sense?

    Actually, YES, it does.

    Individuals have direct agency on taking (or not taking) the experimental mRNA vaccine. The deliberate misrepresentation of both Risks and Benefits by BigPharma is very personal. Those who have direct contact with negative vaccine outcomes are strongly motivated to speak out about the problem.

    Most individuals have no direct involvement with laboratories that have virus modification capabilities. Thus, there is less personal connection with question of origin.
    ____

    Did President Trump order a preemptive first strike on China with a WMD (biologic)? He did not. So, we can be 100% sure that it was *NOT* an American attack.

    What you are actually suggesting is a rogue (or DNC) attack on America, China, and the world at large. One could call the disease the #NeverTrumpVirus as the timing aligns to blocking his re-election.

    This also explains the exceedingly limited Fake Stream Media coverage about the origin of the virus. There are only two scenarios:

        -1- The SJW Left released the virus intentionally
        -2- The CCP, a powerful ally of the SJW Left, released it accidentally

    With no way to blame the MAGA, there is no motivation for corrupt U.S. media to permit the conversation.

    PEACE 😇

    • Thanks: Jefferson Temple
  289. JasonT says:
    @Ron Unz

    Unz writes: “Many of the anti-vaxxers here claim that the vaccine issue is much more important than the origin of the Covid outbreak itself.”

    Because it is. The ‘Covid outbreak’ is largely a psy-op with a few poisonings (what you call a biowarfare attack) by the U.S. Deep State, while the vax campaign is deliberate genocide. There is simply no comparison. The disproportion is entirely justified.

    Unz writes: “The anti-vaxxers are forced to gather their evidence from relatively obscure sources and then argue that all the public data about total American death rates provided by the CDC is fraudulent.”

    The VAERS database and its European counterpart are not “relatively obscure sources” nor is the insurance company data on overall deaths subsequent the vax campaign.

    Unz writes: “They also have to explain why every mutually-hostile country in the world, including America, Russia, China, Israel, and Iran, seems to be part of the same conspiracy.”

    There is one cabal but within that cabal there is both in-fighting and fake-fighting. This is what is seem as “mutual hostility”. The levers of government around the world have been infiltrated by the cabal for centuries, and the so-called “mutual hostility” is whipped up by a corrupted media and used to divide and conquer the peoples of the world. Governments and media do not have to be entirely corrupted, only the key players.

    Unz writes: “Meanwhile, my evidence comes from ABC News, the front pages of the New York Times, and other absolutely mainstream sources. And it very strongly implicates elements of the American government in the deaths of more than a million Americans.”

    All of these so-called media outlets are controlled by the same small group of people with an agenda to deflect attention away from the lethal needle onto a utterly pointless blame-game for a ‘disease’ that amounts to little more than a seasonal flu. Attributing millions of American deaths to something that amounts to little more than a seasonal flu is simply lying.

    Unz writes: “Isn’t the totally disproportionate focus on these two different topics across the entire alternative media rather odd and even suspicious?”

    No. People who read the alternative media can generally tell the difference between a real problem (mass murder by lethal injection) and a distraction (Unz’s navel gazing about the origins of Covid).

    • Agree: Passing By, Skeptikal
    • Replies: @RudyM
    , @Skeptikal
    , @Thomm
  290. Anon[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron is Right

    5. Ron does not support vaccine mandates.

    He hasn’t really said one way or the other. Hey Ron, do you support mandates or not?

  291. Harry Gonad says: • Website

    This post by Mr. Ronald Unz is very timely for me.

    I just found out an hour ago a long time colleague who had been triple jabbed just died suddenly. Second one in a month. And these people were in good health before they were shot up.

    I fear these will not be the last to die like this and getting this awful news will be a regular occurrence.

  292. 9nope9 says: • Website

    I will post a link here of a video I shnipseled together a year ago which has David Martin present his case regarding patent violations (that’s his field and he words as an auditor, also for the CDC) and that coronavirus COVID-19 is not a novel virus, from August 1, 2021, a year ago:

    [MORE]

    https://odysee.com/@snoogles:e/martin-480:9

    The man is without a doubt competent. He did get on my nerves quickly thereafter though.

    I had a death in the family in February 2020 and as a result, since I am an expat, had to travel back and forth a lot in the months before, and after, in order to say goodbye, make medical and funeral arrangements, and in the following years until now for legal reasons involving the estate.

    I was on the plane from NYC to Europe in March for the funeral, and one guy coughed like he wasn’t going to make it, five rows behind me. I had masks with me, but didn’t want to be the only AH on the plane with a mask on.

    After landing, the next morning I experienced a very strange headache for two days, in the morning, and perhaps felt a bit sluggish, no fever or anything. It was like a hangover but different.

    NB I was dosed up with Vit C and D B12 and Melatonin, Zinc, Garlic etc. I am also in my early 40s.

    Couple of days later a big funeral with lots of family. Big feast the whole thing. Lots of drinking and talking all indoors, no one wore masks yet at that time. About 80 people hanging out at a small hotel for 2 days.

    None of them ever had any symptoms or got sick.

    In May 2020 my brother got sick and Covid diagnosed in Denver and was quarantined, his condo sealed off, he only received medical care via skype and once a day 2 nurses showed up in hazmat suits, to check his oxygen, etc.
    He was eventually put on an oxygen augmenter, not a full ventilator, at the condo. Scary.

    I spoke to him on the 2nd day of the oxygen augmenter and he sounded like he had is lungs full with broken glass, could barely breathe, could only utter a word at a time, barely. I told him he needed to call 911. He refused and said it wasn’t that bad. Stubborn.
    So then I try to call the next morning and no answer. No answer for 5 days. I finally got a hold of his girlfriend and she informed me they had to sedate him for several days. She never got sick btw nor did she test positive, and she lived with him before she got kicked out due to sealing off the place. They went and got tested together.

    We are two years apart. Top fit, runs marathons, goes to the gym, but didn’t take supplenents or Vitamins, against my advice.

    So I certainly took this disease very seriously, and was all ‘hooray’ about the idea of creating immunity in the body against the spike protein, not the mutating virus itself. Technology, clever, amazing. Throughout 2020 I took several flights back to Europe, sometimes via connecting flights in Dubai or London or Paris, on half empty planes, with face shields. The same madness allover the world I thought yet something just felt off, and I started to relax about this virus hysteria, while still supplementing with Vitamins.

    However when the vaccines started rolling out in Israel and in the UK, the data immediately showed that the vaxx did not prevent transmission nor did it prevent one from getting sick. WTF. So, I looked more into it and concluded, also on Dr. Martin’s work, that this vaccine is a bad idea.

    The fact that all media was stubbornly singing the same tune, that of “get vaxxed, the disease will kill you otherwise, you owe it to your community and friends” just seemed fishy. It was in concert with all their other concoctions.

    Meantime all my friends and most of my family got vaxxed almost right away, in August/September 2021. When asked about why, they mostly said “I wanted to go clubbing again” or “travel again”, very rarely was it a job requirement, that wasn’t until the 2nd or third booster. Insane I thought but well what can you do I sent them all my information.

    Today, I see my neighbors, old friends, clients, and I usually don’t miss an opportunity to chat with them. All the triple vaxxed have a 50% chance of having repeatedly caught Covid this year, some a third time. They have a deep scratch in their lungs and cough. Young people a lot of them. I am around them, in close contact, in elevators, in Ubers, intimately. Me not vaxxed and never mask. I never have symptoms. I have never taken a test either no thanks. My family and kids are healthy and unvaxxed. Never any symptoms either. They want to musical lessons, karate, yoga the whole time this embellished health emergency went on.

    I hear stories from my clients that their nephew or nice got vaxxed and had a heart attack, in their 30s, fit and healthy people. Several.

    I talk to the few remaining people in my circle who refused the vax, some of them are nurses, some in care homes. It’s a shit show there. Everyone constantly sick who got vaxxed. Entire care homes, everyone sick constantly with Covid symptoms.

    The world has become completely dogmatic in these two years, and there is no doubt this was intended. I also have no doubt that the pandemic was artificially created, with a real pathogen. But this pathogen got weaker each time it mutated.

    And this is not a war between nations, this is a war of the establishment against its own people. An establishment that has dishevelment and disorder as its tenets. Sabotage.

    Keep your head clear, because as long as you keep your head clear, you can gather clear observations and draw conclusions from it, and determine a clear reckoning in spite of being actively deceived.

    Unfortunately, most people, and most of them vaxxed, have lost that ability.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  293. @Ron Unz

    But keep in mind that something like 15-20 million people worldwide have already died of Covid itself

    You are repeating this again. So I repeat my reply:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    And I add this one:

    https://covid19.who.int/

    Of course, I am not expecting a reply. It would be too damaging… for you.

    And those results would also suggest that they do provide reasonable protection against severe Covid symptoms.

    The omicron spike protein has 32 mutations which makes it much, much less dangerous, not to say innocuous. The injections have the original spike protein which is very dangerous for some people. You will have to explain why in France with a very high injection rate (79% entirely injected) the number of people contaminated went above 100’000 new cases in 24 h (more than 98% with omicron, the rest with Delta).

    Also you never discuss the ADE possibility. Which of course will never be investigated, because the propaganda wants to make believe that once injected the disease will not be dangerous.

  294. Chester says:

    The mechanism and inevitable result of these “vaccines” says it all.

    Step-1: Alter your DNA so your own cells produce viral proteins.
    Step-2: Your immune system attacks the tissues making viral proteins.
    Step-3: Gain partial immunity that quickly fades.
    Step-4: Get breakthrough infections.

    Repeat these steps indefinitely until you get cancer from continuously altering your DNA or die of blood clots if/when the viral proteins get into your blood stream.

    Sounds like fun! Go for it all you super smart people!

  295. Anon[429] • Disclaimer says:

    Where’s utu?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  296. @Zachary Smith

    “They’re as immune to reason as the types who claim human-caused rises in CO2 aren’t changing climate.”

    You can COUNT ME IN with those “immune to reason” – I DO NOT believe the “global warming” B.S for one minute.

    If there is, in fact, anything to this, then the rich bastards can pay for it. They sure as hell are not paying for very much of anything right now,

    Thank you!

  297. Ron Unz says:
    @Chebyshev

    Who specifically could have been promoting the anti-vaccine conspiracy theories as a conscious strategy to distract people from the biowarfare origin of the virus? Sunstein fans in the mainstream and alternative media or on social media?

    Hard to say and my “conspiracy theory” is pure speculation. However, I did find it suspicious that the anti-vaxxing movement seemed to explode out of nowhere in a period of just a few months, suddenly getting something like 100x more attention in the alternative media than it ever previously had. Maybe it suddenly just grew organically or maybe it didn’t. I’d assume a relatively small number of anonymous early promoters on social media or websites could have gotten it off the ground for the cynical reasons I suggest.

    Similarly, by mid-January 2020—long before almost anyone in America was paying attention—social media and the Internet were awash with stories that the Covid outbreak in Wuhan was due to a lab-leak and that Covid might be a Chinese bioweapon. Since that’s exactly what Mike Pompeo and friends later claimed they knew from Intelligence reports, I’m almost sure they’d secretly promoted it in the alt-media early on as a way to preempt any subsequent Chinese accusations.

    There’s less evidence that the anti-vaxxing movement was concocted, but let’s consider a long list of different “conspiracy theories” relating to Covid/vaxxing:

    (1) Covid is a Chinese bioweapon.
    (2) Covid leaked from the Wuhan lab.
    (3) Covid was created by Klaus Schwab and/or Bill Gates to exterminate billions.
    (3) Covid isn’t any more dangerous than the flu.
    (4) Covid doesn’t exist.
    (5) Covid isn’t important, but the vaccines are deadly and may kill millions or hundreds of millions.
    (6) Covid was an American bioweapon used against China (and Iran), which is exactly what the Iranian leaders publicly claimed at the time.

    It seems to me that (1)-(5) have all been massively promoted and discussed across alternative media websites and podcasts. Meanwhile, except for me almost no one anywhere has discussed (6), even though it has the strongest evidence behind it, most of it drawn straight from the establishment MSM.

    If so many hundreds of people weren’t so busy actively discussing and promoting (1)-(5), probably some of them would start to suspect (6).

    The late Michael Collins Piper was a longtime and very solid conspiracy-researcher, and I actually dedicated my Conspiracy book to him:

    https://www.unz.com/page/conspiracy-theory-articles/#print-edition

    Last year I was reading a couple of his later books, and he mentioned that about ten years ago, the whole notion of “crisis actors” suddenly erupted across conspiracy websites and the Internet, with huge numbers of people claiming that none of the terrorist attacks or school shootings were real but were just fake events employing paid actors. In most cases, these theories were totally nuts and contradicted by a mountain of evidence, but a large fraction of the conspiracy-activists all believed them, wasting their time and making conspiracy-people look like total nuts.

    Piper found this development extremely suspicious and strongly suspected it was just a Cass Sunstein-type trick to discredit and destroy the conspiracy-movement. Based upon the nature of the Internet, he thought a relatively small number of anonymous early promoters could have cynically launched the theory then allowed it to take off on its own. Naturally, all the people believing in “crisis actors” ferociously attacked him for his skepticism.

    While I can’t say whether the anti-vaxxing movement had similar roots, I’m quite suspicious.

    • Thanks: Chebyshev
  298. Beagle says:
    @Pierre de Craon

    Effective existing treatments could have gummed up the Emergency Use Authorizations the shots relied upon to be rushed out.

    Has anyone mentioned the PREP Act yet?

    Lost in all the other issues, people should know that under this law invoked by HHS in March of 2020 the federal government as of June 1st has paid out a grand total of \$0.00 for injuries and deaths caused by the shots. Moreover, the manufacturers of the shots (and many other providers) are completely indemnified.

    Any effort to recover damages requires a showing of “willful” conduct under the Countermeasure Injury ‘Compensation’ Program.

    Which again, has paid out \$0.00 to injured or dead Americans and their families as of one month ago in ‘compensation’.

    Hopefully people have seen the stories about the contracts nations had to sign to get the shots. It’s what someone would want if they knew they were about to kill a lot of people.

  299. I’m beginning to understand where the WEF is coming from.

    Get the shots, folks.

    And the boosters – for yourselves and your offspring.

    It’s for the best.

    • LOL: Harley Rider
  300. Ferrari says:

    The vaccines appear to make almost no sense for young men (under 40 or so). One need only observe the odd increase in professional athletes with season ending heart troubles (sometimes death, but not often) that simply never occurred in past years. It is a small sample size when you consider just athletes, but that combined with odd reports of young people dying in their sleep certainly raises suspicion.

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  301. @Ron Unz

    Indeed I’m agreeing with your approximate figures for vax-deaths at least order of magnitude, however the vaccines didn’t work. That makes comparing dead people from vaccines to dead people from covid kind of silly; they’re both equally dead, and one doesn’t prevent the other. One risky thing is being mandated by governments and the other isn’t. Being dead also isn’t the worst thing you can imagine. Having covid, by contrast, is basically just a flu unless you’re already almost dead.

    January was extremely high and despite a huge drop, so was February. But March was actually below the 2020 figure and April and May are quite low. Obviously, we’ll need to wait a few more months to see, but I’ll bet that if we exclude January, the entire year will pretty close to the 2019 total or even noticeably below.

    You should really look at the data more carefully. I helpfully provided the address to it in the gist above. How about a little side wager? Excess deaths about the same in the US in 2022 as 2021 versus…. I dunno what do you think is fair? 50%, 25%? I’ll donate \$1000 smackaroonies to the charity of your choice if you’re correct, but you won’t be.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  302. Wade says:
    @Jim H

    I agree. I know of several people in my family or friends of the family that experienced extremely adverse side effects right after taking the vaccine, including two golfers in their 40’s, one fat one fit (the fat one died after his shot and the fit one developed an Afib where his heart beats at 120 bpm for no reason) and not once did anyone even suggest filling out a VAERS report (I’m not sure about the death).

    I work at a hospital and I can tell you that before this controversy virtually no one new what VAERS even was.

  303. Agent76 says:

    July 18, 2022 The Covid-19 Crisis and “The Seventh Wave”: Our Politicians are Fraudulent, Complicit and Incompetent

    Video: “The Seventh Wave” Our Politicians are fraudulent, complicit and incompetent. Interview of Prof. Michel Chossudovsky with Caroline Mailloux, Lux-Media Montreal.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-covid-19-crisis-and-the-seventh-wave-our-politicians-are-fraudulent-complicit-and-incompetent/5787031

    Feb 20, 2010 Innovating to zero! | Bill Gates

    At TED2010, Bill Gates unveils his vision for the world’s energy future, describing the need for “miracles” to avoid planetary catastrophe and explaining why he’s backing a dramatically different type of nuclear reactor. The necessary goal? Zero carbon emissions globally by 2050.

  304. harfang67 says:

    Mr Unz.

    I think Dr David Martin’s main point is that the Sars-COV-2 virus is a biowarfare agent and him having been involved in the “patent world” (heaviley involved according to a previous podcast in 2021, if I recall) has the supporting documents and that is what I find is in line with your view that this whole thing was a biowarfare attack against China and Iran.

    On his number of deaths predictions, I find this far fetched also but we’ll see.

    Harfang67

  305. geokat62 says:
    @Anon

    Where’s utu?

    In Sweden.

  306. Ron Unz says:
    @Scott Locklin

    however the vaccines didn’t work.

    My strong impression is that the vaccines greatly reduce the chance of severe illness or dying from Covid. That seems backed up by the evidence of the longtime commenter from Iceland and also the low-mortality data from very heavily vaxxed New Zealand. So the vaccines don’t seem effective at preventing infection or transmission, but they do greatly reduce the death rate.

    You should really look at the data more carefully. I helpfully provided the address to it in the gist above

    I clicked on your link but I have no idea was a “gist” is. When I’ve looked at the CDC monthly mortality data in the past, it seems to stabilize within about 2-3 months. We’re in mid/late July, so I think the March numbers are pretty solid and the April numbers are getting solid. Those figures are far below the ones from 2021 and clearly trending downward. Maybe an especially dangerous new variant will appear, but otherwise I’ll be very surprised if the 2022 totals aren’t well below those from 2021. We’ll probably know better within just another month or two.

    At least it’s very refreshing to find an anti-vaxxer who doesn’t dismiss the total death figures of the CDC as fraudulent.

  307. RudyM says:
    @JasonT

    No. People who read the alternative media can generally tell the difference between a real problem (mass murder by lethal injection) and a distraction (Unz’s navel gazing about the origins of Covid).

    Right. I was initially very interested in the origins of Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2). Over time, I became a lot more interested in the way the threat of Covid-19 was being exaggerated. At the same time, I also became more concerned with the “response” to Covid-19 and the many agendas that were being pushed in the name of fighting Covid-19. The transnational, globalist coordination and movement in a similar totalitarian direction of the “response” left me less interested in theories about one nation launching a bio-weapon attack against another nation. As all of this unfolded, health authorities were revealed to be engaging in lie after lie, deception after deception.

    Sometime later, the vaccines, and policies such as vaccine mandates, became the most worrisome aspect of the “response.”

    Others may have moved through similar stages. I admit, it took me longer than it should have to become suspicious of the official Covid-19 narrative. Either way, not there is nothing odd about alternative media being less concerned with Covid-19’s origins than with what followed.

  308. Well, in Italy there were conspiracy theorists, who said that the country’s elites were only pretending getting vaxxed and that their fake jab consisted only of salted water…

  309. Well Ron, enjoy your contributors who seem to be well informed, especially the colorful jung-freud, but you missed the boat on this one…let us know how your vax goes

  310. Vasily says:

    Above, I stated the following: “The World is clearly and firmly in the grips of a conspiracy that has as one of its main aims an attempt to turn ordinary men and women into gods (in their own minds).
    These men and women are therefore obsessed with ‘beating’ every single facet of the ‘slave driving’ natural order, and replacing it with their own concoctions.
    Attempts to normalise things such as homosexuality, gender fluidity, feminism, etc. is un-controversially part of this conspiracy, as the new ‘gods’ think they’re breaking down the freedom-sapping barriers of heterosexuality, fixed and finite genders, the normal role of males, etc.

    [MORE]

    Equally un-controversial is covid’s place in this model. Without a shadow of a doubt, tried and tested (and one might say fixed) medical truths were absolutely demolished, in favour of what was the medical practice equivalent of calling a man a woman, and hoping that honest people wouldn’t notice.
    In other words, covid was nothing more and nothing less than the elites asserting themselves upon the world of science and medicine, in an attempt to make it fit their desires, rather than them having to follow it.
    Once one of the core purposes of the conspiracy is understood – something which is helped by understanding, for one, the history of the philosophical ideas the elites adhere to – it becomes easier to identify what is part of the conspiracy and what is not.
    I believe Ron is ignorant in many respects about what is going on in the world and therefore can’t make all of the connections necessary to form the fullest picture possible.
    What exactly the elites want from injecting everyone with experimental shots, I don’t know, but that’s not to say that something very, very fishy isn’t happening.”

    I’d add to this how the covid conspiracy also follows the conspiratorial pattern of an overly sensitive, neurotic society. For years now, all of us have borne witness to how snowflakes’ itty-bitty feelings are protected by hate speech laws, and how such laws are a gross imposition on 1. pointing out what’s wrong in the world; 2. peoples’ freedom to live their life without having to walk on eggshells. This new way of living is really on the same spectrum as the poor thing who won’t leave the house because they might get hit by a bus.

    As this is precisely the same, neurotic and over-protective spirit that has animated the entire covid saga – a spirit which has been placed into society by design – it would take an incredible act of faith to believe that the response to covid took this turn by mistake.

    As a fairly thoughtful biologist I follow more or less said in this regard: If the response to covid was simply out of incompetence, then the response would have seen a mixture of sometimes hitting the target (of good science and medicine), sometimes half hitting it, and sometimes missing it altogether; but because the response managed to be the exact opposite to good science and medicine – at Every. Single. Turn – something other than incompetence was at work (namely, intention).

    Without a shadow of a doubt, there’s a conspiracy playing out in the world in which a certain group of people wish to try and replace actual reality with a lie, and the response to covid has this conspiracy’s grubby little fingerprints all over it.

  311. Chester says:
    @anon

    Just remember, don’t be humble about it. You were right about a very, very important thing. You deserve praise, they deserve scorn and humiliation.

    Do not be humble.

  312. Thoughts says:
    @europeasant

    Vaccine doesn’t even prevent fever.

    Me: Unvaxxed, Completely Asymptomatic

    Spouse: Unvaxxed, Fever, Cough (Made worse by being a hypochondriac)

    2 late 20something Females Vaxxed (the sickest was boosted I believe) – Fevers, and a nasty Cough for 1-2 WEEKS…I was shocked

    One female regretted the Vax but was coerced

    I believe the vaxxed get far sicker on average, especially when you look at the younger cohorts

  313. anastasia says:

    Yet despite operating on the very edge of a global nuclear holocaust, the Russian and American governments have still maintained quite similar views on Covid and vaxxing, as have the leaders of China, Iran, Israel, and every other mutually-hostile country in the world. Have Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates somehow secretly hypnotized all these different national leaders into such lock-step agreement?

    Belarus didn’t and they had very few cases.

    Russia’s vaccine is not an MRNA vaccine. It is a viral vector vaccine, using the adenovirus (the common cold virus) as the vector. In other words, the viral vector vaccine has been studied and tested for decades, and is a traditional vaccine, as well as harmless. Using the adenovirus as the vector, the worst that can happen from it is that maybe you get the common cold.

    It was also found to be more effective vs. Covid than any of the MRNA vaccines.

    This MRNA vaccine, unstudied, untested, untried (life insurance will not pay if you die from it) should never be used on a population, and if they were subject to liability, I am sure they would not.

    So Russia did not follow our lead, and in using the vector they did, I would say they were not “true believers” in Covid.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @RudyM
    , @Ron Unz
  314. anastasia says:

    Anyway, if Putin did not have all those western bent oligarchs just itching to rape that country again, Putin probably would not have done much, if anything, but those western “liberal democracy” oligarchs would have crucified him using Covid politics to do it. So, instead, Putin gave his people a harmless vaccine, and played the game. All restrictions in that country have been lifted.

    They don’t have a “liberal democracy” in that country because Putin doesn’t believe “liberal democracy” is very democratic.

  315. Anon[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    The VAERS database is apparently open to the public and allows “unverified reports,” so it’s easy to imagine “excitable” anti-vaxxers swarming it and leaving large numbers of complaints, perhaps even including totally spurious ones.

    Thanks for discrediting yourself, Ron.

  316. Regardless of what view he has on the subject of the covid shots, I’m glad that Ron believes in freedom to express one’s views and allows the free exchange of information on the subject. I am completely against the shots for myself but have many friends who have gotten the shots. I completely respect their right to take 1,2 or even 100 shots, just as I respect their right to do anything they want to their bodies as long as they respect my right to not get them. The more people I talk to who have taken the shots, the more I see them getting suspicious of government telling them that they need to get more shots after telling them that two were all that was needed. Being the open minded man he is, my bet is that once the statistics come out, Ron will eventually change his opinion on the subject.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  317. andyay says:

    If you advocate for the efficacy of pharmaceutical vaccines and have encouraged others to likewise emulate your complacency and go get jabbed, it’s little wonder that guilt should have intervened, so urgently, at this time. As the count of vaccine fatalities increments daily, what’s less readily understandable, though, is the undignified impulse to exculpate yourself of profound error, in a public pronouncement, styled to occlude your own enthusiastic willingness to engage with epochal evil.

    The most untruthful article I’ve ever read at this site. Purposefully ignorant.

  318. Anon[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    What are you talking about? Everyone from Jon Stewart to the former CDC director have been talking about the man-made origins of COVID. Nobody got fired for believing this theory. Meanwhile, the vax issue is so radioactive, you still won’t even touch it!

  319. JackOH says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron, FWIW, I got the Pfizer jabs after consulting with a woman with two very severely autistic adult sons. They are morbidly obese, they turn violent, they need 24/7 in-home custodial care. She does blame vaccines (MMR, I think). She’s done personal research on the vaccine-autism link, and unsuccessfully tried some local rabble-rousing.

    Her thinking is nuanced enough that she and her family got the COVID-19 jabs. She gave me her reasons for getting vaccinated (which I’ve forgotten). Good enough for me.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  320. RudyM says:
    @anastasia

    The Sputnik V is similar to the dominant vaccines in the west in that it instructs the body to produce spike protein. It is therefore not a traditional vaccine. I’m not sure where you are getting that idea. MRNA as such is not the only concern with mRNA vaccines, it’s also the production of spike protein (along with concerns about other ingredients and their potential for causing adverse effects). Johnson & Johnson uses the adenovirus as well, but still causes problems.

    More here:

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/04/28/russia-astrazeneca-vaccine-collusion/

  321. lloyd says: • Website

    The statistics for the last five years before 2020 showed a continuing rise in American mortality. That ended a continuing mortality drop from the 1970s. That coincides with the break down of the American health system. Then indeed it shot up and then down. Now it is apparently less than in 2019. That is good news until the next wave of Covid subvariants. But where now is the mortality demograph? It has risen forty percent in the working age population according to insurance statistics. So who is living now who would otherwise have died? Maybe the elderly thanks to the vaxes have been give a short reprieve. Meanwhile there are the unborn and aborted fetuses who don’t figure in mortality records. Actually a bit like a village becoming extinct. Full of the old and a scarcity of the young. The old eventually die and are not replaced. And that is not counting American morbidity. In the New Zealand demographic records, in 2019 an extra two thousand died due to a virulent influenza. In 2020, New Zealand had the lowest mortality rate in its history. Then in 2021, the year of the vaxes, mortality jumped to a level one thousand above 2019, but influenza almost disappeared. Now the hospitals are being over burdened and reaching third world levels with both Covid and influenza. The other illness statistics are not being reported. New Zealand now is a very sick and hypochondriac place, and ranks at 51, second to last out of countries as a chosen place for immigrants to live. But life goes on there. Ron Unz seems to have a blind spot there. Like the moon landings.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  322. @Ron Unz

    Based on a quick review of his archive, “the longtime commenter from Iceland” (niceland) hasn’t said anything about this topic in nearly six months.

    Do you think he’d endorse your reasoning and disparagement of we so-called “anti-vaxxers”?

    I am still relying on natural immunity I got from infection early in the pandemic and haven’t seen any reason to get vaccinated. So I haven’t paid much attention to the process involved.

    […]

    Still, I am not sure I agree with your assessment Iceland had “relatively low rate of adverse events”. A quote from my earlier post;

    Overall we have just over 6000 reports of side effects, there of approx 275 considered “serious”. This is after ~700.000 dozes given to 305.000 individuals. Or ~0.09% “serious” side effects.

    “serious” side effect is defined as:

    A serious side effect is the side effect or unwanted effects of a drug that leads to death, life-threatening condition, hospitalization or prolongation of hospitalization, causing disability or birth defects in humans. Also, the reports considered clinically important are classified as serious.

    While these numbers are probably not as bad as they look, they are still quite serious.

    […]

    Our media is, sadly, like a dog pack, hunting unbelievers and eager to publish the most outlandish claims by antivaxxers, while ignoring more serious arguments. We don’t really need warnings from some experts forecasting fire and brimstone, our own statistics include plenty of meat to chew on in serious discussion, and it’s really not happening. Perhaps it will happen when experts try to evaluate the vaxx campaign in retrospect with better data. But looking at the media reaction I don’t expect much accountability.

    Strange times.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  323. Espace says:
    @JimDandy

    Agree. This site and the authors articles were kind of a place where I thought I could find an educated opinion. Not this time

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  324. I bet you wore your Admiral’s dress uniform when you wrote this article!

  325. Espace says:

    Regarding Dr. David Martin, you should educate yourself on what he actually does, and read the lawsuit filed by him, in Utah Federal Court titled “Griner V Biden”.
    There, if you choose to educate yourself, you will find they are not vaccines at all, they are in fact categorized as ‘gene therapy’.

    You can also read BioNTech’s prospectus posted on its own website that verifies the same. I’m disappointed in this article. The lawsuits are not about anti-vax, it’s about whether or not a ‘government’ has a right enforce medical intervention. Since it is not legally a ‘vaccine’ and is technically categorized as gene therapy, there is no ‘law’ that can constitutionally enforce it. Maybe start learning what exactly mRNA is and when it is used (cancer research)

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  326. H. L. M says:
    @Weave

    Ron certainly knows a lot more than I do.

    I’m still trying to figure out what “Covid 19” is, and how you would know if you have it.

    My understanding so far is that “Covid 19” is some sort of disease caused by a “virus” that nobody has ever found.

    And if nobody has ever found the “virus”, how can there be a test for it?

    Can somebody explain this to me? I didn’t go to Harvard so make it simple.

    • Agree: Sisifo, Towey
  327. eah says:
    @Robert Dolan

    There is a simple reason for the push to get COVID vaccines approved and recommended for children — this is happening due to the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.

    As long as the vaccines were administered under an EUA, vaccine makers had legal immunity — in fact, everyone who got the vaccine under the EUA had to sign a form that 1) stated potential side effects and their seriousness were unknown, and 2) explicitly released the manufacturer from all liability.

    Once an EUA is withdrawn, the only way for a vaccine maker to get protection from legal liability is to have the vaccine approved and recommended for children — once a vaccine is recommended for children, a manufacturer has liability protection via the ‘National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986’.

    Very few people seem to be aware of this.

    • Agree: Random Anonymous, Towey
    • Thanks: Jefferson Temple
  328. @JackOH

    She gave me her reasons for getting vaccinated (which I’ve forgotten). Good enough for me.

    Sure, especially now that you’re stuck.

    But as someone who’s not, I have two more questions that you’ll likely also ignore:

    If you were still a virgin, would you make the same decision today?

    How about your boosters, to date and going forward?

  329. @Mark Hunter

    Yes, and many months ago I explicitly suggested he contact Kirsch, since both of them live in the Bay Area, and Kirsch is eager to talk to anyone — in fact, he’s always trying to get people to debate him and his team on these issues.

  330. Espace says:
    @JasonT

    UNZ hit piece on anti-vaxxers, brought to you by “Pfizer”

    • LOL: Mario Partisan
  331. Cris M. says:

    Would just note it’s difficult to be accurate on numbers when the source of numbers are cons. They output numbers that suit their schemes, so compiling data is akin to trying to build a house, using dry sand.

    Example would be populn, they’ve been claiming three hundrd or three twenty miln for twenty years, obviously false. Number of deaths every year probably way off, and who’s to validate the counting.
    Many years ago prior to recognizing the size of the con, or number of cons, I wrote the ‘cdc’, twice, to inform them of provably false data they were claiming, and neither time received response. Cons.

    A popular government, without popular information, or the
    means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a
    tragedy; or, perhaps both
    .’ – James Madison.

  332. JimDandy says:
    @Espace

    In fairness, this is the place that first… purebloodpilled(?) me re: vaccines. Whitney, and even more so–very early in the discussions of the vaccine–UR commenters helped cement my decision to never get the jab.

    • Replies: @Espace
  333. @Alfred

    It’s not fair, man! They should have vaccinated and unvaccinated leagues.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  334. Mazel Tov, Ron. You can compose a withering takedown of a dopey CT.. while promoting your own dopey CT… all of which is a distraction from the CT for which robust reliable evidence, electronic and eyewitness, is steadily accumulating: that a sitting president conspired with a clique of similarly vile grifters to steal, with blatant lies, fabricated accusations, grueling intimidation and mob violence, a presidential election.

  335. @Ron Unz

    The VAERS database is apparently open to the public and allows “unverified reports,” so it’s easy to imagine “excitable” anti-vaxxers swarming it and leaving large numbers of complaints, perhaps even including totally spurious ones. But let’s suppose those numbers are correct.

    10,000 or even 20,000 annual deaths hardly seems implausible to me.

    ‘Apparently.’ You might want to check into that Ron, b/c passing on canards like this damages your credibility. JimH already addressed that, and many health professionals have refuted this point. But one additional point: if the allegation were true, then why is there no adequate monitoring system for these emergency-authorized experimental jabs? Either way reflects terribly on the CDC.

    The fact is that available evidence indicates that substantial underreporting is the problem with passive adverse event reporting systems like VAERS (and we don’t have a better system for these jabs in spite of gov’t promises thanks to Rod Rosenstein’s sister, as Meryl Nass has pointed out https://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2021/03/if-you-dont-collect-adverse-event-data.html ).

    The under-reporting factor varies depending on the adverse event. Credible estimates by people like Jessica Rose and Steve Kirsch put it in the 30x-41x range for deaths, last time I checked a few months ago. Excluding foreign reports in the VAERS system, this puts the USA & territories in the range of roughly 350,000 – 500,000 deaths so far from the jabs. A far cry from your 10,000 – 20,000 per year.

    https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=CAT&VAX=COVID19&VAXTYPES=COVID-19&SERIOUS=ON&STATE=NOTFR&VAX_YEAR_LOW=2020&VAX_MONTH_LOW=12

    I’d say that lowballing jab deaths by a factor of 17x-50x without bothering to inform yourself better is more than a little irresponsible. Or, if I’m wrong and you’re right, why not man up and debate Steve Kirsch or Jessica Rose about it? I’m sure doing so would bring more attention to your bioweapon theories.
    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/
    https://jessicar.substack.com/

  336. Geo Ha says:
    @Ron Unz

    Dear Ron (if I may be so bold),

    This sounds as if you think that lockdowns work? Have you real evidence to support that?
    https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/comprehensive-research-finds-that-lockdowns-dont-work

    Lockdowns definitely work if your goal is to impose authoritarian totalitarianism, other than that, it seems they are largely counterproductive.

    Nice metaphor, though.

    Geo

  337. @Ron Unz

    Both the origin of the virus and the question of the safety of the vaccine are very important. The difference is, the source of the virus is set and release has already occurred and is irreversible, the culprit waiting to be discovered. The question of the vaccine is in play every day. Any one of these drugs could still harm many people. Yet the government ignores the slew of adverse effects, including deaths of tens of thousands and continues to approve it for ever younger people, who happen to suffer the most from the jab’s effects. That screams diabolical agenda, no question. So yes, questioning the safety of this crap is extremely important to every soul who may yet be forced to take it by a callous and feckless government.

    My suspicion is that the pharmaceutical giants played a part in the origin/release of the virus as well as, of course, the new drugs. Who has benefitted more? Who benefitted from the CARES Act more than those who are already filthy rich? And the rest of us got a couple thousand lousy dollars to compensate for a year under house arrest.

  338. @Thoughts

    I will be 86 y.o. come November. I got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine in May 2021 with a Pfizer booster in December. To date I have never experienced any symptoms even remotely Covid-19ish! However, subsequent to Pfizer booster, I began to see news articles in the less MSM reporting anecdotal evidence of exacerbation of autoimmune disease conditions following the Covid-19 shot. The autoimmune syndrome is prevalent in my family so I was a bit concerned. I have a daughter with R.A., One son with psoriasis, another with a lymph problem. My other daughter has developed acute lymphoblastic lymphoma following a Covid vaccine inoculation and currently is in a “name brand” cancer hospital in Boston undergoing multiple tests to determine how to treat it. The cells that are proliferating are components of the immune system but the source of these cells is in the bone marrow. However, this is not source of the leukocytes cells proliferating in my daughter. They show up in bones lesions in her body, but the doctors are stumped at the moment as to the source of these cells and why they are proliferating. If I understand correctly, the Covid vaccine “mechanics” are in a different category of vaccines and affect the body’s immune system, None of the vaccines were adequately field tested on anyone much less, the millions of people with autoimmune disease syndrome. And, it may be just my imagination but, it seems to me that the symptoms of ADHD with which I dealt with my whole live have marked increased in frequency since I got the vaccine shots.

  339. Ron Unz says:
    @Greta Handel

    Based on a quick review of his archive, “the longtime commenter from Iceland” (niceland) hasn’t said anything about this topic in nearly six months.

    Do you think he’d endorse your reasoning and disparagement of we so-called “anti-vaxxers”?

    Well, here’s what he said in January, which I quoted in my article:

    My views towards Icelandic health officials haven’t changed.
    And while the vaccines provide little if any protection against infection or transmission they do indeed provide considerable, even good protection against serious outcomes from covid disease.

    This is easy to see when over half of hospitalizations from covid disease come from our small group of unvaxxed, probably less than 10% of the population. Last week we had 7 people in ICU – 6 of them unvaxxed. After the main vaxx campaign last summer – death rate from covid dropped like stone.

    The main focus over here is on our main hospital, it’s in crisis mode after the new Omikron variant spread like wildfire and Delta isn’t gone yet either. So it’s easy to understand why our doctors and health officials keep pressuring vaccines, booster shots etc. That’s their job description and what they believe is the correct thing to do.

    I think they would benefit from reading Robert Kennedy’s book and Mr Unz articles. And the verdict is possibly still out – was it all worth it? (like vaccinating young children) This is very difficult to access right now. Long covid exists and we honestly don’t know how serious it is. And much about side effects from these new vaccines is unclear.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-public-health-problems/?showcomments#comment-5113987

    He’s a very level-headed individual and his experience seems to strongly support that unvaxxed inviduals are far more likely to suffer severe Covid symptoms.

  340. @Dick Lowman

    For those who attack Mr. Unz for his views

    Actually, I think they attack him because they perceive him as being dishonest.

    • Thanks: Towey
  341. @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, my evidence comes from ABC News, the front pages of the New York Times, and other absolutely mainstream sources.

    Well, I’m sure we all find that very convincing…

  342. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @dimples

    The real crime Mr Unz ignores is the suppression of safe, cheap, off-patent generic repurposed and already approved drugs to actually treat covid instead of relying … on the fairly useless vaccines. This is the only pandemic in history in which the medical profession has been brainwashed and coerced into not treating a disease for the … financial benefit of Big Pharma and Big Hospital.

    If these drugs, which have been suppressed by a variety of methods including fake science, fake trials and overt political and mass media propaganda, had been used then it is likely that most of the … victims would not have died.

    That part of your post is correct. The rest is all wrong. The Unz Hypothesis is not “potty,” repetition can be useful in promoting ones ideas, and vaccine deaths and injuries are not relatively trivial.

  343. Ron Unz says:
    @lloyd

    In the New Zealand demographic records, in 2019 an extra two thousand died due to a virulent influenza. In 2020, New Zealand had the lowest mortality rate in its history. Then in 2021, the year of the vaxes, mortality jumped to a level one thousand above 2019, but influenza almost disappeared.

    So what you’re saying is that overall mortality in New Zealand has remained almost totally unchanged during the years 2019-2021, just going up or down by one or two thousand (in a population of 5M).

    However, as I pointed out in my article, New Zealand is one of the most heavily vaxxed countries in the world, with over 81% fully double-vaxxed compared to just 68% in the U.S., and Pfizer is apparently the main vaccine used.

    So if Pfizer vaxxing is so dangerous, why has there been absolutely no noticeable increase in New Zealand deaths?

    • Replies: @lloyd
    , @Ann Nonny Mouse
  344. @Professional Slav

    Holy crap, if you’re a Professional Slav, I’d hate to read the rantings of an amateur Slav!

    I’m on nobody’s side in that war. It’s absolutely not the business of the US! (I should say, “it should not have BEEN the business of the US, with Biden financial interests and Neocon military interest since ’14.) Vlad Putin is not bad FOR THE US, and that’s what I care about.

    I don’t run into anyone’s arms – that’s the whole point – all that is a big distraction from what was going on at the end of ’21 and in early ’22. Regular people were protesting the Kung Flu Totalitarianism, and the Globalist elites didn’t like that growing as it was.

    You should really read the PS post called “Is the Russia/Ukraine War another piece of Infotainment?”

  345. Ron Unz says:
    @anastasia

    Belarus didn’t and they had very few cases.

    Actually, Belarus had a huge number of “excess deaths,” much higher rates than Russia, Poland, Lithuania, or other nearby countries, but the dishonest government pretended it had nothing to do with Covid:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-09345-z

    Russia’s vaccine is not an MRNA vaccine…It was also found to be more effective vs. Covid than any of the MRNA vaccines.

    This MRNA vaccine, unstudied, untested, untried (life insurance will not pay if you die from it) should never be used on a population, and if they were subject to liability, I am sure they would not.

    So Russia did not follow our lead, and in using the vector they did, I would say they were not “true believers” in Covid.

    There are all sorts of different Covid vaccines, some using mRNA and some not, though most Western countries uses the former type.

    Since mRNA is much more experimental, I wouldn’t be surprised if it were more dangerous, though the Western MSM endlessly claims it provides much better protection against severe Covid. Maybe they’re telling the truth or maybe they’re not.

    I don’t have any particular opinion on the trade-offs between these different vaccines.

  346. Dr. Mercola recently interviewed Dr. Ryan Cole, one of the best sources of info on Covid and the toxic jabs, imo:

    https://rumble.com/v1b6ujx-effects-of-the-covid-jab-interview-with-dr.-ryan-cole.html

    Genius comic / biting social commentary:

    Jim Breuer, “The Pandemic”

    • Thanks: Robert Dolan, roonaldo
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  347. Ron Unz says:
    @Espace

    Regarding Dr. David Martin, you should educate yourself on what he actually does, and read the lawsuit filed by him, in Utah Federal Court titled “Griner V Biden”.

    Look, if Dr. Martin is actually correct and 1/3 of all Americans will soon be dead from vaxxing, I’ll certainly owe him a huge apology for ridiculing him, and will make sure I provide it to him before I expire from my own Pfizer double-vaxxing.

  348. Wow, Mr. Unz, you admit the corruption of media, CDC, politicians, etc. Yet seem to trust them regarding the “safe and effective” gene therapy. Of course, it is well established that it is neither safe nor effective- proven so. The CDC connivance in approving this poison from their own documents, which of course they tried to suppress for 75 years. Not at all suspicious that.

    I don’t believe you and am entertained by your double-down on the pro-vaxx stand. Very interesting indeed. This post is a masterpiece of omission and false naiveté.

  349. @Ron Unz

    Maybe they’re telling the truth or maybe they’re not.

    Yeah, really, why get hung up on such things?

    Truth, lies… day, night… beauty, ugliness… What’s the difference really? It’s all the same thing finally.

  350. Josh Acid says:
    @JimDandy

    It’s irrational to label people anti-vaxxer when you are trying to force a product on them. If you let people choose what medicine or treatment they want, there would be no such thing as an anti-vaxxer. So you have about 2.8 million die a year. Then in 2020, about 3.4 million die. Of course, you leave out the fact that half of the “Covid” deaths were people in nursing homes. You introduce the “vaccine” in 2021, and then 3.5 million people die. That tells you the vaccine is a catastrophic failure. To be honest, the death total should have probably fallen below 2019. History has always shown that natural immunity is superior to vaccine-derived immunity.

    A lot of people like Unz are not thinking straight since the injections and brain-poking swabs. He’s claiming the government would never kill you with a vaccine. They would kill you with a bio-weapon instead!

    This was not a conspiracy theory. This was a plan.
    https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2019-09/2019-2022_roadmap_en_0.pdf

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  351. Your concession that testing was somewhat shorter than normal is a gross understatement. It takes years to test a new drug properly. The fact that drug companies refused to guarantee their products is a massive red flag.
    Your claims that many companies would insist on vaccination, including top executives is a bit naive. Do you really think they can’t manage to get bogus accreditation very easily given their wealth?
    At the end of the day, it’s up to you what chemicals you allow to be put inside you but I have never pressured anyone into not having them, it would be nice if the same respect was given to me by a health system and society that hounded me into compliance but doesn’t now allow me to see a doctor under any other circumstances than being rushed to hospital in an ambulance.
    Thanks but no thanks. Lastly, I’m not anti-vax, I’m sure I’ve been protected from various nasty virus by them… but those were properly tested and certain guarantees in place.

    • Agree: Olivier1973
  352. Sisifo says:

    Meh, I’m ignorant and I can’t understand science, therefore I base my choices on observing the reality around me.

    None of my family members and my unjabbed friends got anything, not even the flu, all my jabbed friends on the other hand got covid at least twice, often with lingering issues.

    This is an n=20 experiment, not science, but again I’m an ignorant bastard.

  353. roonaldo says:
    @Levtraro

    The Nuremberg Code stresses the need for informed consent in its ten points and the necessity to eliminate all forms of coercion, force, fraud, and deceit. All these requirements have been rudely violated. Some will say that the jabs aren’t experimental, but that’s a weasal’s way out.

    I can’t decide whether it is more merciful for the perpetrators to get the rope or life in jail, where they may be reminded daily of their crimes in this material world.

    You are correct that many willingly flocked for their jabs–but how many were not faced with a job mandate, desire to visit loved ones, etc., and could be expected to resist a relentless onslaught of lies, deceit, and pressure from the government, media, and medical authorities?

    Bring on the prosecutions.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  354. Ron Unz says:
    @Jim H

    A VAERS filing requires an affidavit and a validated filer identity, both under penalty of perjury. People don’t just spam VAERS as they would an internet poll.

    Well, here’s an amusing item mentioned on the VAERS Wikipedia page:

    For instance, Jim Laidler once reported to VAERS that a vaccine had turned him into The Incredible Hulk. The report was accepted and entered into the database, but the dubious nature of the report prompted a VAERS representative to contact Mr. Laidler, who then gave his consent to delete it from the database.[18][19]

  355. @loren

    The lockdowns, mask mandates, etc were just starters to instil fear into the population so they would accept the main main course : the vaccines. There are a plethora of theories as to what these contain and their long term effects, but the latest data from doctors and scientists around the world is very disturbing :

    Doctors warn the MRNA ‘vaccine’ may poison the entire human genome permanently



    Video Link
    Thus the depopulation agenda extends to all future human too as the MRNA ‘vaccine’ has the ability to permanently alter the human DNA. Ron has blithely ignored the evidence of the harmful effects of the vaccine, and doesn’t even mention the VAERs database. The first hand accounts of millions of people who recorded their side effects to the vaccines apparently don’t count, and even this number is a vast under representation as less than 10% who experience adverse reactions actually record them in VAERS.

  356. H. L. M says:

    Yet despite operating on the very edge of a global nuclear holocaust, the Russian and American governments have still maintained quite similar views on Covid and vaxxing, as have the leaders of China, Iran, Israel, and every other mutually-hostile country in the world. Have Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates somehow secretly hypnotized all these different national leaders into such lock-step agreement?

    Yes, isn’t that odd. Could it be hypnosis? No, of course not; that’s a joke.

    How about bribery, threats and blackmail (and some killed for not going along)?

    Would any of these things induce a politician to go along with criminal fraud? You bet they would.

    Since this fraud was perpetrated with meticulous planning and on a global scale it must have cost a lot, right?

    Think about it…. who would have that much money lying around (Hint: it’s not Bill Gates)?

    There. Fixed it for you.

  357. @Ron Unz

    “For instance, Jim Laidler once reported to VAERS that a vaccine had turned him into The Incredible Hulk.” Ron Unz

    There is another great example of dishonesty from you Mr. Unz. You know the restraints put upon healthcare providers when attempting to submit a VAERS claim, especially regarding this gene therapy “vaccine”.

    You know about the likelihood a legitimate claim is not answered by VAERS staff. You know about the proven underestimate the VAERS provides. You must know that the CDC claimed that the VAERS isn’t their job’. Yet you point to a meaningless example that was IDENTIFIED as bogus anyway! What in the world is your point beyond misdirection?

    • Thanks: Towey
    • Replies: @geokat62
  358. Where do you get your data from? I have read numerous reports saying that all cause mortality is up across the board over 40% over the 5 year average. This data was from insurance companies. This directly conflicts with your data presented here.

    https://www.aier.org/article/all-cause-mortality-in-the-united-states-during-2021/

    Canadian insurance companies met and discussed similar findings.

    In addition, athletes dropping dead is up 1000% in the 18-30 year age range.

    • Agree: Olivier1973
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  359. The sloppiness of the writing of the post, combined with the uncharacteristically poor responses in the comments has me all but convinced that the “\$.50 Army” had complete control of unz.com right now.

    Sad. I always suspected this site as a ‘honeypot’ of sorts for exposing those with dissident voices, now I am more convinced as ever.

  360. @Old and Grumpy

    My link suggests your childhood measles improve your chances of not being hospitalized or dying of Covid, but a 1/3 improvement is hardly bullet-proof.

    My attitude is that a person has to take advantage of every little thing which helps – or which might help.

    Masks are #1, and obsessive use of those is likely the reason I avoided getting Covid during the anxious time of 2020. I had a stock of N-95s left over from the Bush years – I was truly afraid that little dip**** was going to get us into a major war which which would include the use of biological weapons.

    When the vaccines arrived I held out for the J&J type, and in fact my first booster was a second J&J. This wasn’t an option for the second booster, so the nurse gave me a dose of Moderna which truly kicked my @ss. Apparently there will soon be a genuine smorgasbord of vaccines, and I’m going to research them as carefully as I possibly can.

    It’s early summer, and the local Elderberries are starting to form on the bushes and they will soon go to the freezer. These are a known anti-viral, and they might help with a case of covid. Ditto for my growing stock of dried dandelion leaves to make an anti viral “tea”. Those are obviously from places which have never been sprayed, BTW. Horrible taste, but sugar helps.

    These days I’m usually the only person in sight at stores who is wearing a mask. Nobody has commented yet, but busybodies have given me hard looks. Relatives tell of getting smart remarks from maskholes.

    I received excellent treatment and completely recovered and I now have natural immunity that some doctors say that can last a lifetime.

    That’s from comment #31, and if that person believes this, he/she is playing Russian Roulette every trip out. Trusting random people on the internet is NOT a very good idea. Covid is dangerous, and Long Covid even more so. Better to avoid getting the wretched disease in the first place. Risking multiple infections is just nuts.

    Finally, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Equate-Premium-Saline-Nasal-Moisturizing-Spray-1-5-fl-oz/10324485

    No known downside, and quite possibly an extra bit of inexpensive shielding against Covid.

    • Replies: @Harley Rider
  361. Alfred says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s not fair, man! They should have vaccinated and unvaccinated leagues.

    Agreed. The same goes for trans swimmers and women. 🤣

  362. Alfred says:

    Mr Unz should perhaps consider asking Steve Kirsch for permission to reproduce this masterpiece.

    Here is my list of nearly 100 indicators that the “safe and effective” narrative is falling apart.

    It is a devastating list.

    And for some reason, nobody wants to fact check me on it.

    It will take you 42 minutes to read everything which is too long for most people, so feel free to pick and choose what you read to get a sense for the entire list.

    This is a “kitchen sink” article listing some of the best examples showing that the narrative is falling apart.

    Feel free to create derivative works of this list (e.g., pick your set of the most compelling arguments).

    The “safe and effective” narrative is falling apart

    • Agree: Mark Hunter
    • Thanks: Emil Nikola Richard
  363. lloyd says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    A thousand deaths overall works out to about seventy thousand deaths in America. The overall mortality in 2021 is compared to 2019 which was a mortality jump of about two thousand from 2018. 2019 was a high year for mortality as it was a virulent influenza season plus the Christchurch massacre and a volcano mass mortality disaster. 2018 was neither appreciably higher nor lower for mortality. Someone then claimed the actual mortality rise in 2021 was about three thousand when you take away the abnormal lock down year of 2020 which eliminated influenza. Covid deaths per capita in New Zealand are among the lowest in the world thanks to physical remoteness, early border closure and affective border and internal controls. However now Covid and influenza infection are per capita among the highest in the world. However thanks to socialised medicine and good clinical practices, plus less general bad health, mortality remains low. I hope that helps.

  364. @Ripplewiggler

    I suspect most of the previously active commenters on this subject are tired of banging their heads against the Unzian brick wall of name calling and proud MSM-fueled ignorance (despite a few cursory looks on his part at other voices). I know I am. Almost everything that needed to be said was already said in the comments to the articles around autumn of 2021. Anyone who’s followed developments since then has had most of what they thought and expected continue to be confirmed by new evidence.

    As many have said, most of us got interested in the issue when we and our families were being propagandized and/or coerced into getting the shots. Although there are unfortunately still plenty of remnants of that, and it’s an ongoing issue for some, the issue has receded as an urgent one, although its egregiousness remains, and truth is still being pursued by many dogged researchers such as the ones I mentioned in my first comment on this thread.

    • Replies: @Ripplewiggler
  365. To get your daily dose of certified kosher bovine excreta, look no further than any news article on any subject put out by the Associated Press (AP) and appearing the bird cage paper, Newsweek . Here”s an example from early last year I think it was. “According to the Associated Press, “Massive coronavirus vaccine trials involving tens of thousands of participants have so far surfaced no signs of serious side effects, and few unexpected adverse reactions have been reported in the early days of COVID-19 vaccine distribution in the U.S.” I nearly choked on my doughnut and a bout of borborygmous could be heard in the county.

  366. @Ron Unz

    Virtually no one is interested in arguing Dr. Martin’s figures with you, you might notice (but apparently don’t, in your zeal for flogging your straw man). On the other hand, if you understand Antibody Dependent Enhancement, Original Antigenic Sin, and Vanden (sp?) Bosch’s arguments, then you understand that there are vaccine effects known to science that could lead to the extreme outcome Martin predicted. I have no way of putting a probability on that possibility, so I take note and move on.

    But it is more than a little concerning that ADE has always been a problem with attempts to make coronavirus vaccines. Do you have anything to say about that well-documented fact? Any thought as to why that concern would be swept aside to warp-speed us into universal experimental injection?

    What I have seen from Martin that I DO find of interest is the patent history behind covid. Unfortunately that’s well outside my area of competence, so I haven’t dug into it to evaluate it myself. It does seem that both Dr. Richard Fleming and Dr. Peter Breggin have produced similar analyses, though. Given your focus on the origin issue, I suppose this avenue of investigation would be of interest to you. Any insight?

    Dr. Martin did lead me to a most interesting video of Peter Daszak from a few years back, which is highly pertinent to the origin question.
    20191209_ep. 615, Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance [noteworthy– 29m 52s]


    Video Link
    I state all this in a conversational way for ease of writing, but honestly I’m no more interested in engaging you than I would be a scientist who disregards 2/3 of the experimental data in his area of focus. But maybe this will be of interest to others, so I post it.

    The Covid discussion at Unz.com is a shitshow because of Unz. If you were to address serious questions respectably, it wouldn’t be that way.

    For instance, if you were serious, you would give a cogent explanation for why you find it unimportant that the gene jabs program peoples’ cells to produce the toxic spike protein that is a key pathogenic component of what you argue is a bioweapon.

    Another example. You commented to Scott, “At least it’s very refreshing to find an anti-vaxxer who doesn’t dismiss the total death figures of the CDC as fraudulent.” Have you somewhere countered the arguments against the CDC #s? E.g. their revision of rules to make it as easy as possible to call the cause of death covid, while simultaneously creating large financial incentives to do so? And the CDC statistic that over 94% of presumed Covid-dead had on average 4 serious pre-existing medical conditions? Or the clearly fraudulent use of the PCR test? What about the role lockdowns and 24/7 fear porn may have had in elevated death rates? What about the denial of safe and effective early treatments, combined with deadly treatments like remdesivir, respiratory-depressing sedatives and ventilation?

    If not, why should anyone take you seriously?

    • Replies: @Espace
  367. Sam J. says:
    @Ron Unz

    “…Many of the anti-vaxxers here claim that the vaccine issue is much more important than the origin of the Covid outbreak itself….”

    They are both equally important.

    You’re not the only one that has been talking about where covid came from. I’ve said for a long time it was the Jews who did it and then blamed China and now the US for engineering it.

    There was over five different government labs that said the virus was engineered and were going to write papers to this effect then…silence.

    There’s a trick Jews use. They tell you what to think then they throw a bunch of facts at you and if you’re not careful you might ignore that the facts don’t exactly line up with the picture that they are trying to create in your mind.

    For example Unz says,”…Yet instead, the official total of American monthly deaths has actually recently fallen…”

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

    Ok fair enough. This is true but if you look at the statistics “before” recently you have “percentages of expected deaths” much higher than 100% for most of the year. So the total percentages are much higher. That it has dropped some the past few months is really nothing but playing with statistics. I could easily made the case that people are wising up to the scam and refusing to take the vax and it’s lowering death rates. See how that works?

    Let’s look at another example. He says, after a long build up about how wonderful they are,”…New Zealand…overwhelmingly vaxxed with Pfizer, at a rate far higher than that of the U.S. Yet there has been no noticeable rise in the national death rate..”
    yet this miraculous data that he links,

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NZL/new-zealand/death-rate

    Says the data is nothing but UN projections and doesn’t include covid deaths. So it’s a big nothing burger. What does it say about a country that is fully vaxed and doesn’t release their covid death rates. Could well be that they are falling out like flies. We don’t know. We only have Unz “telling” is to trust him.

    Just for fun I looked up covid deaths and population figures. Here

    Total Coronavirus Cases in New Zealand 1,519,490 out of a population of 5,133,010. That’s a damn high rate of infection for a fully vaxed population. Shows me their vax is worthless.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/

    As for the graph on heart disease

    Now we all see, with our own eyes young people falling out all over from likely heart disease in public. This can not be denied. Unz would have you believe this is not real “because of statistics”, but there’s another way to look at this. See the big spike in covid deaths. This could very well be the older people vaxed who would normally be in these heart disease statistics but have been killed off by the vax. The rate stayed the same because so many young people died from heart disease. I can’t prove this. I’m looking for statistics on this. Heart attacks by age. They have buried these somewhere. I can’t find them. All the statistics I see they claim are “age adjusted”. I have no idea what that means but it doesn’t sound good. Why would you need to “age adjust” heart attack statistics?

    Now let’s cover Unz pejorative term the, “anti-vaxxers”. Now personally I have never been against the “science” of vaccines. It’s perfectly valid but the problem is the vax companies have been taken over by the Jews and their product is shit. Just like every single thing the Jews touch, it turns to shit. I quit taking any sort of vaccine after the Jews either deliberately or by sheer incompetence contaminated the vaccine for swine flu in the Ukraine with bird flu. It was only a fluke of a technician testing the batch on ferrets, which all promptly died, that brought this to light. Let’s not forget the Jew that called up a talk show and said Baxter was purposely contaminating the vaccines. The next day while trying to flee to the Israeli embassy a swat team stopped him with an armored vehicle, gassed him with a robot tear gas machine, dragged him out of his car and I’ve never heard what happened to him. They said they did so because he threatened Obama. Ok…

    It appears they have been trying to murder the Ukrainians in large numbers for a long time. Apparently they have found more success in the recent war they cooked up.

    So it’s not just toothless stupidity to not trust the “product” of the vax makers. After all it should be completely impossible to contaminant a swine flu vax with bird flu. This should not even be possible if they were following regulations.

    As for the mRNA type vaxes we have the guru himself Mark Zuckerberg in a leaked video saying that there’s no way anyone can tell what the possible long term side effects of this experimental genetic engineered vax could be. He’s not the only one that says this and we damn sure do not have any data to prove it one way of another. Just a corrupt CDC administration that shortly after approving these things all get high paying jobs in the pharm industry. I read that they “lost” a bunch of data on the trials to these vaxes but approved them anyways.

    Unz tries to convince us with, well others did it, or peer pressure to show the vaxes are safe.

    “…According to the newspapers this morning, Goldman Sachs has now required all its employees to get vaxxed before they’re allowing to work in the office…”

    Yet there’s a glitch he doesn’t mention. It is known that certain batches of vax had huge, very high death rates. Others did not. Very surprisingly, the ones with the very high death rates were spread all over the country in small numbers while the ones that were average or less were sent to place in batches. They did not separate them and spread them out. Very suspicious that. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if some “safe” batches could be arranged for some of the richest people on the planet. So you’ve proved nothing by touting Goldman Sachs.

    So I do not believe that you have shown that anyone who has qualms about taking what might be very dangerous genetic engineering experiment from an industry that has been caught with contaminated products is some sort of nutcase.

    Now let’s cover why neither the US OR China created and spread the vax. The very biggest reason and undeniably, is it would be stupid. Let’s just use our heads for just the slightest amount besides holding our hair. Let’s say the US wants to kill off a bunch of Chinese so they engineer a virus but these people are so stupid they fund the same Chinese to make the same engineered virus in Wuhan. This is so stupid as to be unbelievable. No one in their right mind would do this. It clear that if we can make a engineered viral attack on China then they can do exactly the same to us. I can see this clearly so I have no doubt that our Defense establishment can see the same. They can’t all be ignorant cretins. This is no different than firing nuclear weapons at China. It’s a no win proposition. This is one of the major reasons that what you are pushing is foolish bullshit. There is NO WAY POSSIBLE that the US could EVER think that starting a viral biological war with China would be a good idea and would in any way be successful. It’s too stupid to even think about but you seem determined to try. If you or anyone else is going to continue on this line of thought then you need to provide some sort of solid, scientific method to prove that the US can start a viral biological war with China while not being able to suffer blowback from the same menace. Otherwise, what you are pushing is nothing but a fanatical fantasy.

    Why is this? Why is the Jew Jeffrey Sachs saying the US did covid? Unz gives us this certain bit of proof with,”…All of the very considerable evidence of American guilt was available in the establishment MSM, and therefore could not easily be denied…”

    So the media, owned by the Jews, that can not see any problems with building 7. Which on 9-11 with fire on only three or four floors fell over 100 feet the same speed as if only AIR held it up. Why, “those” people are the last word on whether the US attacked China with viral biological weapons. As the Jew said,”Don’t pee on my leg and then tell me it’s raining”.

    The reason that the Jews and the media are now saying it’s the US is they failed to prove it was China so they are casting about for anyone to blame except the only people who would benefit from this and the only people genocidal and psychopathic enough to do this. The only people with a very long history of this sort of genocidal behavior. The Jews.

    After all a Jew from Harvard’s biology department set up the Chinese lab in Wuhan. He was arrested for doing so. All he had to do was set the up on the same research path that the US had been pursuing, and then they could blame it on them or the US. Which is exactly what they and you are trying to do even though the whole idea is so stupid as to be statistically impossible, (see I can use statistics too but mine are accurate.)

    It’s widely known that the Jews were, or said they were, planning a move from the US to China. It appears that the Chinese have nixed that idea and we all know how ruthless the Jews are. How convenient that they could set up a viral weapons research center in China and then when it breaks out in China it also breaks out in Iran. And then it breaks out in the US and their vaxers send “possibly” contaminated vaxes to the US and everywhere else.

    And even more telling fact is that some Jew vaccine maker in Israel shortly after this broke out said that he just happened to be working on the same virus with chickens and he could whip up a vaccine in a few weeks. No doubt thinking of all the sheckels he could rake in but…he never said another damn word. Someone told him to shut the hell up. Mossad? He very well could have been working on the same type virus not knowing that there were other plans.

    The only people to benefit from this is the Jews who try to start a war between the US and China or at the least cause strong tensions while wrecking both economies.

    • Agree: Alfred
  368. @Random Anonymous

    @Random. Totally agree with you. Indeed, the coordinated implementation of mass psychosis induced by media, government and pharma really got my attention beginning with the fake fear porn videos out of China at the beginning of 2020.

    I don’t have a T.V. and was only getting two NPR stations on my radio, nevertheless, the brainwashing/gaslighting was so intense that I would click-on the radio for over a year and count how many seconds it took to hear the words: pandemic, vaccine, safe and effective, covid 19, etc. 24 hours a day.

    Usually, it took only a few seconds to hear one of those fear porn phrases and then I would turn off the radio until the next test. Individual media employees are just as guilty as pharma, the corrupt politicians and evil health care providers in this Jewish planned and administered genocide.

    • Agree: Alfred
  369. Commenters here were ridiculing Ron when he claimed early on that millions will die of Covid-19. Now he has been proven right they claim the death statistics are lies but that millions will die because of the vaccines. But how will they prove that if death statistics are being manipulated by TBTB? Surely they will not allow such statistics, that the vaccine kills millions, to emerge. However, there is an easy way to cover this up: start a nuclear war and just kill millions, or billions – then no one will care about the harmful consequences of the vaxx anyway.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  370. Toza says:
    @Hang All Text Drivers

    David Icke convinced me in that long April 2020 interview that there is no virus, and I believed it for about six months, but the nature of the disease I and most other people around me subsequently contracted convinced me that the virus does exist.

    However, everything following the virus — masks, lockdowns, the media hype, the ban of efficient antidotes, vaccines, vaccine mandates and vaccine passports — was designed if not to reduce population, then to at least wreck the economy and enslave people to the satanist oligarchy. Everything the cabal organized showed that it was all meticulously planned out and almost fully executed. If someone doesn’t see that, he is either stupid, gullible, or works for them.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Alfred
  371. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you Achmed.

    I can also confirm my sister’s closest friend who is also an RN. Had such harsh adverse reaction, she also works from home doing data entry. That’s after 3 convalescence months trying to recover from a “mini heart attack”.

    She is so young.

  372. @Ron Unz

    The assertion by annamaria that life insurance companies won’t pay if you die from the effects of receiving an mRNA vaccine is such obvious BS that I am surprised you didn’t take her up on that. It would of course depend primarily on the terms of the contract and secondarily on the willingness (absent any relevant legislation) to enforce an exclusionary clause

  373. Jiminy says:

    There’s always been an anti-vaccination movement or belief, maybe rightly, for as long as I can remember. Here years ago , the government brought in changes to the family welfare payments that withheld money if the child wasn’t fully immunised. Bit of a carrot on a stick routine.
    But I think with the massive propaganda push that has been leading the way with covid19, an equally large pushback has been in play. Doesnt mean any are wrong. If you have any children then you would agree that parents should always be allowed to ask what their children are being immunised with and against. Today we have thousands of years of information available at our fingertips, so why suddenly bring the flow to a halt.
    With that third graph, it’s a shame that the vaccination numbers aren’t overlaid with the covid and heart attack deaths. Clearly there is a rise in heart attacks that seems to follow the covid deaths. But are those deaths caused by the rise in vaccinations at the time? Obviously that pattern of deaths can be hidden by averaging everything out for the year though.
    And as for any figures coming out of China, I think most people take them all with a grain of salt. Even after the Wall Street meltdown, China’s high economical recovery figures were doubted. All governments have an agenda.

  374. MPJ says:

    It’s pretty obvious that Ron enjoys mocking the covid jab refuseniks. I’m sure though that he won’t be able to hold up against those who have researched the mortality aspect of covid and the adverse effects of the jab. People like Steve Kirsch, Matthew Crawford, Peter McCullough.

    Ron, do a podcast with Kirsch on the topic of covid mortality and vaccine mortality if you REALLY claim to be objective and open-minded.

  375. xyz234 says:

    Any product that has to be forced on the public through a mixture of lies, censorship, suppression of alternate products, and brute force (“use our product or else!”) and devious, widespread propaganda is guaranteed to be a bad product. You don’t even have to know anything more, or even what kind of product it actually is, ie, a car, a house, a chair, a computer, etc. Just the sales tactics alone tell you all you need to know about the quality of the item being sold.

    • Replies: @Peter Gent
  376. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Note the recent revelations of Pfizer’s defence in its latest prosecution for fraudulent promotion of the non-existent “safety and efficiacy” of its fake “vaccines” – “Yeah we committed fraud, but you can’t hold us accountable because the government was in on it!“.

    You may have noticed this as well, but the problem with being alive nowadays is that the truth is so incredible, it often sounds like some sort of wind-up.

    (I mean, one is never quite sure how to take it.)

    I was not familiar with the Pfizer defence before you brought it up. However, sure enough:

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-whistleblower-lawsuit-fraud/

    “Pfizer claims they can get away with fraud as long as the government would write them a check despite knowing about the fraud,” attorney Robert Barnes said.

    I would not call that site an unimpeachable source, exactly, but the gist of the matter seems to be just as you say. Pfizer is indeed claiming, with a straight face, “The Feds signed off on it, so what we did could not have been illegal.”

    Mind-blowing. This is the sort of thing a fiction editor would reject as too improbable, yet here it is, like some sort of bizarre punchline.

    (Computer simulations be damned, I say we are all living in a Mel Brooks film.)

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  377. Levtraro says:
    @roonaldo

    Those are relatively reasonable points to make a case under the Nuremberg Code (especially coercion of employees and students) but they are not sufficient, in my opinion, to win the case, or even to start procedures.

    The main fact is that most Western people (including most of the coerced employees and students) AGREED with and in fact applauded all measures taken by western govts to control the COVID19 epidemic and they couldn’t wait to get injections of never-before-used substances into their bodies.

    Furthermore, procedures will not even get started (thus the main point above would not be made) because the Nuremberg Code covers medical experiments and Western govts would argue that early denial of treatments and posterior expeditions of new technology “vaccines” were public health actions, not medical experiments, and they would be right.

  378. meamjojo says:

    If you took the CoVax shots thinking you would get some immunity along with the supposed reduced chance of getting hospitalized from Covid, you’re screwed. The vax is the reason you will keep getting sick, over and over and over. And one of those instances might just turn into Long Covid for you.

    OTOH, if you skipped the shots and went with natural immunity then you are sitting pretty, especially if you contacted Omicron because this study shows that you likely have strong immunity against BA.4 & BA 5. Yea!
    ———–
    Natural Immunity From Omicron Strong Against Virus Subvariants: Study
    July 16, 2022

    The protection afforded by surviving COVID-19 was strong against the latest virus subvariants, including the one currently dominant in the United States, scientists in Qatar found.

    People who were infected with Omicron, a variant of SARS-CoV-2, had 76.1 percent protection against symptomatic reinfection from BA.4 and BA.5 and 80 percent shielding from any reinfection, regardless of symptoms, according to the preprint study.
    ….
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/natural-immunity-from-omicron-strong-against-virus-subvariants-study_4602081.html

  379. @Ron Unz

    Yes, we’re quoting from the same comment. But my points were:

    1. He hadn’t been injected as of January. (Do you think “a very level-headed individual” would have relented since?)

    2. {repeat} Do you think he’d endorse your reasoning and disparagement of we so-called “anti-vaxxers”?

    • Replies: @niceland
  380. IronForge says:

    We’ve been posting Dialogue and Findings regarding problems with the Western Vaccines here and on the NewsLinks for some time.

    MD Malone – Inventor of the mRNA Vaxx Tech;
    Evolutionary Biology PhDs Weinstein and Heying of DarkHorse:
    Pathology PhD Martenson of Peak Prosperity;
    MD Kory of the Ivermectin Congressional Testimony and Advocacy;
    MD McCullough – One of the most Published Cardiologist/Epidemiologist/Internist;
    Biostatistics PhD Jessica Rose – reviewer of the VAERS Database;

    The aforementioned and many others have informed us well over this COVID19 Situation.

  381. @Josh Acid

    Another abomination from the ruling psychopaths is the expression ‘vaccine hesitant’ as if they are vaccines, and as if the rejecters of these experimental substances are fools and the ignorant, who just need ‘enlightening’ by the betters. .

  382. geokat62 says:
    @Ripplewiggler

    What in the world is your point beyond misdirection?

    I’m afraid that may be exactly the point. As the demographics of our homelands are being radically transformed over the next few decades, this represents the danger zone to those responsible for orchestrating this dastardly deed.

    I suspect there will be a series of misdirections or distractions scheduled over this period to distract our focus from the tragedy that is unfolding before our very eyes.

    It’s a classic approach to misdirection that can be best described in the following terms…

    “Look, goy, a squirrel!”

    They’re willing to throw everything, including the kitchen sink, at us to prevent us from forming a collective white identity, which happens to be our only hope.

  383. @Trumpeter

    See #359: “my own Pfizer double-vaxxing.” Subscription apparently lapsed.

    Go ahead, drop the other shoe.

  384. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    “I’ll certainly owe him a huge apology for ridiculing him, and will make sure I provide it to him before I expire from my own Pfizer double-vaxxing.”

    So you didn’t take a booster. Good on you. Last summer, I and others here, warned you off that, and apparently you listened (all the while mocking us and advising us you weren’t listening). Or if it wasn’t that, that was central to your decision to personally avoid the booster, what was the reason, then?

  385. @Ron Unz

    In Australia there have been a number of reports or rumours of young sportsmen having heart attacks while playing which it seems was, previously, totally unknown, the victims all having had Covid vaccination or the same plus booster shots.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  386. mkr says:

    There has never been a successful coronavirus “vaccine” that didn’t cause antibody dependent enhancement (ADE, enhancement of the virus’ effects, ie greater symptoms, not less, greater transmissibility, not less) in the test animals, whether it was for SARS, RSV, or MERS. Here’s a paper from the NIH website where scientists have documented their objection to the non-consent being given recipients of the “vaccine” regarding the risks of ADE: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/

    It’s an mRNA vaccine, they inject the body with mRNA instructions that literally instructs your own body to have a new biological function creating spike proteins like a factory, so that your own body will then produce antibodies to fight against the spike proteins that your own body just made, your own body fighting against your own body, not a good idea, and also, why in the world would you add a biological function to your own body using genetic engineering instructions, that’s not a good idea, especially for a virus that has lethality in the same ballpark as the seasonal flu? In addition, here’s a scientific paper from out of Sweden where they demonstrate that the mRNA “vaccines” reverse transcribe into the human genome (genetically modify human DNA) in human liver cells in vitro (in the lab), which makes it probable (not yet proven to occur) that it cause genetic modification to the human being that gets “vaccinated”: https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm#B25-cimb-44-00073

    Here’s a scientific paper on the American Heart Association journals website called the Gundry paper, where it has been shown that the mRNA “vaccine” raise PULS blood test (tests for acute coronary syndrome, heart disease) scores in everyone who takes them by 2.25x. I would like to see the results replicated to confirm these results: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

    Here’s an article on Science dot org explaining how thousands of women have reported ununsual menstration patterns including heavy bleeding, which matches anecdotal reports of menstruation issues including heavy bleeding and blood clots: https://www.science.org/content/article/thousands-report-unusual-menstruation-patterns-after-covid-19-vaccination?cookieSet=1#.YtHq9ExOp_M.twitter

    Here’s a scientific paper from SSRN dot com revealing that “the excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest surpassed the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization (risk benefit is negative) relative to the placebo group in both Pfizer and Moderna trials”: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4125239

    Here’s a scientific paper from the frontiers in virology website showing that the virus itself contains a strand of patented Moderna DNA at the furin cleavage site, the part of the virus that would be manipulated in a lab to make it human transmissible. Maria Bartiromo confronted the CEO of Moderna about this on her “news” show on the Fox Business network. Here’s a link to the paper: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Here’s a link to her confronting the CEO with this info where he does not deny it, the chances are said to be 3 trillion to one that this is a natural occurrence rather than a deliberate manipulation of the genome of the virus:

    Here’s a scientific paper published on the JAMA Network website showing significant risk for mycocarditis following “vaccination”, it’s a Nordic study of 23 million residents in Northern Europe: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2791253

    Here’s an article published at the New American dot com with many links to published scientific papers, including scientific papers showing that the virus indeed has a survival rate well within the range of the seasonal flu and that it is highly treatable and rarely a deadly disease: https://thenewamerican.com/stanford-epidemiologist-studies-covid-finds-its-highly-treatable-and-rarely-a-deadly-disease/ You are supposed to treat Covid 19, not “vaccinate” against it. Here is a paper posted at the NIH website explaining how “imperfect” vaccination can enhance the mutation and transmission of viruses, “vaccines” that are not designed to prevent viruses cause mutations to the virus (immune escape) causing variants to emerge: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4516275/

    Here’s an article from The Star News Network dot com explaining how the country of Qatar did a study on natural immunity (no “vaccination” whatsoever) which showed that:
    “Effectiveness of primary infection against severe, critical, or fatal COVID-19 reinfection was 97.3% … irrespective of the variant of primary infection or reinfection, and with no evidence for waning,” the researchers noted. “Similar results were found in sub-group analyses for those ≥50 years of age.”
    The study, which was conducted on the total population of Qatar, set out to answer three questions:
    1) When infected with a pre-Omicron variant, how long does protection persist against reinfection with pre-Omicron variants?
    2) When infected with a pre-Omicron variant, how long does protection persist against reinfection with an Omicron subvariant?
    3) When infected with any variant, how long does protection persist against severe, critical, or fatal COVID-19?
    “Despite waning protection against reinfection, strikingly, there was no evidence for waning of protection against severe COVID-19 at reinfection,” the researchers found. “This remained ∼100%, even 14 months after the primary infection, with no appreciable effect for Omicron immune evasion in reducing it.” https://thestarnewsnetwork.com/2022/07/15/study-natural-immunity-is-97-percent-effective-against-severe-covid-after-14-months/ Here’s the scientific paper that the article links to: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.06.22277306v1

    There way more scientific papers in favor of not “vaccinating” rather than “vaccinating”. The “authorities” have done everything they can to discourage and ban non-vaccine treatments, all roads for them lead to “vaccination”, hence non-consent is their norm (they won’t even tell you the complete ingredients of the “vaccine”).

    • Thanks: Rumpelstiltskin
  387. Tucker says:
    @Passing By

    Notice the way he tries to rationalize and downplay the number of deaths and other, debilitating adverse side effects that have been reported to have been caused by the vaccines by hoisting up a theoretical contrast about ‘how many lives’ he says might have been ‘saved’ by the vaccines versus the number of deaths caused by the vaccines?

    He insinuates that, because in his theoretical example, the deaths and debilitating adverse side effects, which we all know are grossly under reported (VAERS people have repeatedly admitted this) so far, seem minuscule when compared to his claim of how many lives might have been saved by the vaccines – that we all need to ignore the extensive and growing number of medical experts who are warning people to avoid the vaccines?

    He is basically admitting, on one hand, that people who take the jabs are playing Russian Roulette because he cannot conjure up a believable narrative of B.S. that would let him to deny the dangers that these vaccines pose – but, then floats the idea that the risks are ‘worth it’ so everyone should just tune out the anti-vax warnings and take the shots.

    To understand the game being played here – one must remember that these vaccines are known to attack and lower the fertility levels in both women and men. Aside from the enormous list of other adverse side effects, i.e., myocarditis, a steady weakening and ultimate destruction of the natural immune system, rendering people susceptible to a wide range of other life threatening diseases such as cancer, etc. – but, more and more, I am convinced that the main purpose of these deadly vaccines is to destroy the fertility levels of specific groups of people as part of a devious genocide agenda. I think this is why these diabolically evil genocide-by-vaccine people are so obsessed with talking parents into shoving these vaccines into their babies who are barely months old.

    Oh, and not to overlook the immune system destruction. What better way for a gang of diabolically evil criminals to wipe out multiple millions of people and do so in a surreptitious manner without exposing themselves to the risk of being caught and punished? Give them a vaccine that destroys their immune system, and then stand back and watch them die due to them contracting some disease that their immune system cannot help them fight off? I’d call this the “Perfect Genocide Agenda’.

    • Agree: Passing By
    • Replies: @Passing By
  388. sulu says:

    Ron doth protest too much, methinks.

    Sulu

  389. @Ron Unz

    Below I’ve posted a portion of the quote that you attributed to commentator ‘Niceland’ who is allegedly from Iceland:

    Last week we had 7 people in ICU – 6 of them unvaxxed. After the main vaxx campaign last summer – death rate from covid dropped like stone.

    That sounds like pure PROPAGANDA.

    And here is the proof that ‘Niceland’ is a bald-faced LIAR:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/

    If you access the link above and scroll down to the graph titled ‘Total Coronavirus Deaths in Iceland’, you will notice that as late as Jan 9, 2022 the number of deaths was thirty nine (39).

    In the last six months the Covid mortality has MORE THAN QUADRUPLED.
    Hmmm …. so much for ‘Covid death rate dropping like a stone’ as ‘Nice-&-Lame’ claims.

    Let’s compare those figures with a REAL WORLD example of a country like Australia, which has almost SEVENTY TIMES the population of Iceland:

    In Australia, the Covid mortality rate increased by a factor MORE THAN TEN FOLD post vaccination.

    Meanwhile, in Australia as in every other western nation, the hospitalised are OVERWHELMINGLY REPRESENTED BY THE VAXXED.

    And, to the extent that many of those hospitalised and dying are alleged to be ‘unvaxxed’, that’s due to the chicanery employed in defining ‘fully vaxxed’, whereby those that have not received the full complement of shots and boosters (ie: having received only one or two), are classified as unvaxxed, when it is obvious that they were suffering a vaccine adverse reaction due to these clot shots.

    Lastly, you go on to say this in your comment:

    He [Mr Niceman/Niceland] is a very level-headed individual and his experience seems to strongly support that unvaxxed inviduals are far more likely to suffer severe Covid symptoms.

    OK, so he’s got a flat head and will come in handy should we need to rest a pint of lager on it while we’re watching the football.

    But let’s put this in context:

    Mr Niceland is the same person who I had an exchange with last year in relation to the 9/11 False Flag.

    Niceland showed me a schematic (likely furnished to him by Neocons like Michael Chertoff or Richard ‘The Prince of Darkness’ Perle), that explained that the Twin Towers pancaked down in a fire induced gravity collapse – as per the official B.S narrative.

    Bottom Line: Mr Niceland is as clueless about the Covid Psyop as he is about the Mossad orchestrated 9/11 event.

    Ron, that you’re relying on this fool and anything he has to say, wreaks of desperation.

    • Replies: @niceland
  390. mkr says:

    The man-made climate change ideology leads straight to depopulation, that is where it leads to, they have normalized “depopulation” amongst large segments of Western nations.

    Here’s a study from Frontiers in Virology that shows that the mRNA “vaccines” alter the genome of human liver cells in vitro (in a lab). If the “vaccines” indeed alter the human genome, which it looks like they probably do (testing is being done now), then those people will need to be sterilized as we can’t have human beings procreating with genetically modified DNA. Maybe this is the plan all along, planned “failure”, even people who are against depopulation would demand sterilization of “vaccinated” people so as to protect the human genome from ignorant non-thinking people who chose untested and wildly crude mRNA “vaccination” rather than natural infection and the resulting highly superior natural immunity. Time will tell.

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full

    The cult went from:

    -Getting caught having stolen the 2016 primary election from Bernie Sanders (so-called Russian hacks confirmed this).
    to
    -Knowingly falsely accusing candidate for President of the United States Donald Trump in 2016 of being a “Russian agent” in order to spy on his Presidential campaign using the state apparatus to do it
    to
    -Knowingly falsely investigating a sitting President of the United States of being a “Russian agent” for three years straight of his Presidency in order to impeach him out of office, a coup, in America
    to
    -The Covid fraud in 2020, the virus itself contains a patented Moderna strain of DNA in the furin cleavage site which is designed to make the virus human transmissible (https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full)
    They have admitted to altering animal coronaviruses in the lab the world over including in Wuhan and Ukraine for the very purpose of creating “vaccines” for their manipulated coronaviruses, so the people who in all probability made and released the virus also designed the “vaccine” for the virus; their cover story is to have a “vaccine” ready should nature evolve a human transmissible virus on its own, which is absurd. All “anti-vaxxers” are labeled “Russian agents or Russian “disinformation and misinformation” purveyors.
    -The “vaccine” is neither safe nor effective, in phase three Pfizer trials (well before Omicron) they knew for certain the “vaccine” did not prevent infection or transmission and was barely if at all effective in preventing hospitalization or death and was likely going to cause variants which is what “leaky” vaccines do. They literally wanted to “vaccinate” everyone on Earth with an untested (publically untested) “vaccine” for a coronavirus with a lethality well withing the range of the seasonal flu and for which not “vaccinating” and natural infection and the resulting natural immunity is the obvious health choice for those who care about their health.
    -The same people who pushed all of this nonsense and criminality are also pushing the health “authorities” worldwide to all be on the same page in regard to the Covid fraud the same way all the Western nations are pushing the Russian bogeyman and the World Economic Forums 2030 Great Reset and CRT/white privilege ideology and the transexual ideology all at once; they are a cult, a eugenicst anti-white anti-Christian anti-human depopulationist cult, they are all on the same page in regard to all of these things in this comment and have been the whole time; Russia is their bogeyman, the main white nation that isn’t going along with their agenda; all roads for them lead to Russia, they probably want a nuclear war as nothing says reset quite like nuclear war.
    -They want a economic collapse in the West, obviously, they hated Made in America, secure borders and ports, and the building up of the middle class under Trump, the antithesis of their agenda, again, they want an economic and societal collapse in order to “6uild 6ack 6etter” in their degenerate collectivist totalitarian tyrant commie image.

  391. @Toza

    At the height of the pandemic I had the weirdest and harshest flu like illness I ever had in my life, with pneumonia and many sleepless nights with alternate sweating and shivering, and a terrible cough which took months to fully recover from. But as my Covid-19 test result was negative I was told that it was just a cold, not even the flu as there was virtually no flu around at the time I got sick. Yet many others who had far less severe symptoms had to quarantine and self-isolate as they were positive.

    • Replies: @Toza
    , @Sam J.
    , @Ron Unz
  392. @Rumpelstiltskin

    Good stuff StiltSkin. It’s great that you mentioned Dr Joseph Mercola – an absolute champion that’s been exposing the Covid Psyop for what it is from Day 1.

    I loved the Jim Breuer comedy skit on the plandemic that you posted (comment # 358).

    All of you pro-vaxxers and obsequious followers of your Covid overlord masters, you ALL need to watch this and see how STUPID you’ve all been during this debacle.

    Jim Breuer impersonates every one of you in this 12 min video. Hopefully you’ll have an epiphany and feel embarrassed for the way you behaved these last two years.

    • Thanks: Rumpelstiltskin
  393. @Ron Unz

    So the vaccines don’t seem effective at preventing infection or transmission, but they do greatly reduce the death rate

    There’s a great meme on this, showing Ali G, and subtitled “So if the vaccines are working, why aren’t they working.” Again, the data from the US shows no such thing; more people died after their introduction. I don’t have NZ’s overall mortality data handy: do you have a source? Google provided this, of unknown provenance:

    https://metatron.substack.com/p/the-entire-new-zealand-mortality

    It looks as if 2000 more NZ people died in 2021 with the introduction of vaccines (also possibly due to lock downs) and absent any Covid deaths. It’s not clear if 2022 and post vaccinated freedom have produced the desired result, but this WHO plot on Covid deaths makes them look pretty much like everyone else on a per-capita basis for the heat map:

    https://covid19.who.int/region/wpro/country/nz

    Same story on the wiki page:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_New_Zealand

    Same approximate fatality rate as every other country. Yet they did everything “right” -locking everyone up and pulling up the drawbridges until everyone was vaccinated. Do you have any other evidence that the “vaccines” prevent death? Because New Zealand isn’t it. Their bout with Covid, unlike other countries, is just getting started; they may end up with a higher death rate than others, which would be strong evidence for negative effectiveness of these “vaccines.” There are reasonable arguments why this may be so: original antigenic sin, and the fact that the vaccines are imprinting immune systems to antibodies on irrelevant spike proteins.

    At least it’s very refreshing to find an anti-vaxxer who doesn’t dismiss the total death figures of the CDC as fraudulent.

    Plenty of sensible people don’t dismiss CDC total death figures and come to the same conclusions as you and I regarding safety of vaccines; Steve Kirsch and Eugyppius substacks say more or less the same things. They seem to think vaccines are more dangerous than we do; but they’re definitely not saying 700 million people are going to die, and their ideas are well within sane error bars. They’ve spent the last few years arguing with people, Kirsch with government officials even (he’s a lifelong democrat who did wonderful things trying to find off label cures for Covid -and was treated like a criminal for it). That sort of combat makes people take the extreme position.

    Unlike you and I (I once applied for a job at your old firm), most people are innumerate, but every sane person can tell when the authorities are lying to us, and this is the most egregious example of the authorities lying on a global scale in all of human history. You can’t blame them for taking extreme opposite views.

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
    , @Ron Unz
  394. @Capt. Roy Harkness

    Look, you don’t know if those stories are true or not. Many such stories are tales. This doesn’t mean that the vaccine had not some negative effects for some people. It probably had. But the virus has killed many million people and nobody would accept to get the vaccine if the virus wouldn’t kill people. In Brazil the government was against the vaccine, but the people wanted to get the vaccine because they saw what was happening.

    • Troll: Jefferson Temple
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  395. @ThreeCranes

    You didn’t see how many people died before there was the vaccine? Or doesn’t it matter to you? You didn’t read the part of the article that says that people in hospitals with covid in Iceland are mostly people who are not vaccinated? You haven’t heard about all the cases of people who chose not to be vaccinated and died? A few of them regreted having rejected the vaccine. You are evidently not reading things which are trustworthy or people who are competent.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  396. It is certainly true that the more extreme anti-gene-therapy people predicting things like “everyone taking the vaccine will be dead 3 years from now” are very likely wrong, that doesn’t change the facts:
    1. Covid-1984 is a very mild disease that is not actually killing anyone who doesn’t have very serious preexisting conditions. It is therefore unnecessary to vaccinate the healthy.
    2. The so-called vaccines don’t work. Whatever they actually do, they do NOT prevent infection, they do NOT prevent transmission [taking away the “you get vaccinated to protect others” line pushed by the media], and they do NOT ensure fewer symptoms upon infection. Bad Covid-1984 cases are more common in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated.
    3. Therefore, even if only 0.01% of the people taking the shots have serious side effects (and it’s way more than that), that’s too much and exceeds the 0.00% of people saved by the shots.
    4. There has not been sufficient testing, and the testing that has been done doesn’t show what they wanted it to show. There’s a reason why Pfizer in particular is covering up its test results.
    5. It looks like not every batch of the shot has the same side effects. howbadismybatch.com and similar sites clearly show that there are batches with very bad side effects while a few others seem mostly harmless. Therefore “Goldman Sachs is forcing its employees to get vaccinated, therefore the bad guys are vaccinating themselves, therefore it must be safe” is not a real argument – it is very much possible that they (at least the ones who matter – it’s not like the self-proclaimed elites care about someone working as a small clerk in a big bank) get something very different from what normal people are getting.
    6. Since Covid-1984 is such a mild disease and the vaccines don’t work, there is no point in trying to vaccinate the whole world. Yet, that’s very much what the governments insist on doing. If health isn’t the motive, and killing off everyone isn’t the motive either, there must be another motive: Most likely, it’s experimenting on people. There has never been an approved mRNA vaccine, and people were reluctant to try something using a potentially dangerous new technology on themselves. Having this massive field trial, if it doesn’t result in mass death, opens the door to future mRNA shots and experimentation.
    7. It is true that governments around the world – even ones that don’t usually like each other – are doing the same things. But then again, not. Russia and China have their own vaccines, neither of which is mRNA. These countries know that their people will see the scaremongering driven by the Western media, and will demand being protected from what is allegedly killing off the entire West. So what do you do? Buy the mRNA shots with unknown consequences? No. Tell the people that it’s all a hoax and they don’t need to be concerned? That would be the right thing to do, but many people will not believe it, especially in Russia, distrust of the media is strong. So another “solution” is needed. How about “Develop a non-mRNA shot against the mislabeled common cold so people stop worrying”? Looks to me like that’s what they’ve done.

    Summing it up:
    No, this is not the “kill shot” some people are seeing (though some batches may be). It is also not the “safe and effective” medicine some on the other side are seeing. It is an open-ended experiment combined with data gathering (those DNA samples from the constant Covid-1984 testing are certainly of interest to bioweapons reasearchers).

  397. @Achmed E. Newman

    “PS: All of us got the Covid, version whatever, a few months back – no appetite, weakness, and that. ”

    I guess I had the Covid last week. My wife and son tested positive. I had a fever up to 102. Fever lasted three days. Now normal temp but I have also lost my appetite. I’ve lost about 7, 8 pounds. Went from about 169 to 161. I figure my normal weight to be about 145 based on body structure(thin boned), age (72) height 5′ 81/2″. I weighed 165 at my prime (20 years of age) and lifting weights competitively (Olympic style). I am not vaxxed but wife and son are. They only had cough, runny nose and no fever.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  398. @europeasant

    None of us had taken, or will ever take, these vaccines. I also didn’t take any Covid test during this illness for a number of reasons (one being liability, cause I needed to go to work for something important). I also lost 8 lb, EP. There was no fever for any of us but my wife, and for her only for 1 day.

    So EP, let’s weigh that risk as Buzz Mohawk and the Goldman Sachs decision makers did. For us, we have avoided any UNKNOWN risks by not taking the jab. We are likely highly immune, as compared to those having taken the vaccine. We are fine. We have told Big Gov and Big Biz to piss up a rope, as much as I never understood that expression!

    How about you? Do you think you should have gotten the vaccine like your wife and son?

    Keep drinking fluids. You’ll be fine soon.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @europeasant
  399. ariadna says:
    @Joe Paluka

    “I completely respect their right to take 1,2 or even 100 shots, just as I respect their right to do anything they want to their bodies as long as they respect my right to not get them.”

    Unfortunately it cannot work that way.
    People who accept to be jabbed — repeatedly a that– with a substance whose content they are not allowed to know, to accept complete lack of responsibility on the part of the manufacturer of the concoction injected into her bodies, and submit to the most absurd coercive measures (for “protection”) are also very easy to convince that healthy people around them pose a health risk to them if hey are unjabbed, and so view them as the public health menace that must be isolated and subdued at all costs.

  400. @UncommonGround

    But the virus has killed many million people and nobody would accept to get the vaccine if the virus wouldn’t kill people.

    I think your reasoning is flat wrong here, UG. What do you mean by “accept” the vaccine?

    Many people took it because they’d get fired otherwise. (Or dragged off to jail, if we’re talking China.) Most of these really didn’t care one way or another, at least early on*. Others did, but they are they are unprincipled and weak.

    I give Ron Unz credit for writing in other articles too that he does not agree with mandatory vaccination. However, he then labels those against mandatory vaccination [Hand up to the sky here] as “extreme anti-vaxxers”.

    .

    * I know a guy who just got 2 jabs so he could enter Canada. He didn’t care one way or another. After the 2nd one, he was in bad shape for 2 weeks (no cardiac problems, luckily), and then he made his trip. Was it worth it? Well, there was a wedding, and then he needed to go get a motorcycle to drive down.

    The Canadians don’t want my family in. Fine, we don’t want in.

  401. @Tucker

    Excellent post. It is genocide indeed and I don’t fathom how people aren’t figuring it out when all the facts lead to the same conclusion.

  402. @UncommonGround

    Please take my apologies for the late reply, UG. First of all, the 3 repliers here make very good points.

    I will make a different point, based on politics. You can’t understand why government agencies would lie about this? Really? After 2 years, you have not seen what any possible reason might be for creating this huge economy-destroying Kung Flu PanicFest?

    Let me clue you in: Big Gov and its Lyin’ Press media arm were able to implement heretofore never possible Totalitarian programs, the LOCKDOWNs of businesses and people being the biggest, and got the most eyeballs ever fixated on something for so long, respectively.

    As for the vaccines, well, the population were made to stay inside upon command, wear stupid masks around in public, stand on stickers in stores and elevators, so why not try making them take an experimental vaccine? Oh, sure, the latter had been done in the armed forces, because that’s what the poor bastards signed up for. However, this is the big-time, getting the whole country to get jabbed by something experimental. They had to implement the PanicFest first, in order to justify the program.

  403. Unzie Jumps the CovidShark

    • LOL: geokat62, sulu, roonaldo
    • Replies: @sulu
  404. @Wade

    Naturally Pfizer is asking the judge to dismiss this lawsuit. Their plea is basically “yeah we committed fraud during the trials. However, we did so as a government contractor and since the government knew all about the fraud and bought our product anyway, you can’t really sue us for it”.

    And boy did they commit fraud. I won’t got into all the details of it

    Can someone please suggest a site that has a good executive summary of Pfizer’s shennanigans?

    I would like to hear more about what they have been up to, but I do not have very much time in which to do it.

    (Also: thank you for that post. It tied up a lot of loose ends I have heard about, but did not have time to pursue.)

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  405. @Ron Unz

    Since mRNA is much more experimental, I wouldn’t be surprised if it were more dangerous,

    If it was not dangerous,why to fake the test results?

    https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/company-that-managed-pfizer-vaccine-trial-sites-falsified-data-whistleblower/

    When will you understand that the bioweapon you claim righthly to be IS the Spike protein?

    When will you understand that the omicron is much less dangerous than the original or delta variant unless you were injected before?

    And please, stop calling people rejecting the injections “anti-vaxxers” when they are only anti-Spike protein. The mRNA products are not vaccines.

    The big problem is that pharma and so many healthcare personals are spitting on a fundamental princip: Primum non nocere.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primum_non_nocere

    I don’t have any particular opinion on the trade-offs between these different vaccines.

    It is time to educate yourself.

  406. Toza says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Yes, I’ve heard of cases like that. The test was unreliable in the first place. Kerry Mullis (who graduated from the same high school I did, only 26 years earlier), the man who invented the PCR test, explicitly said that it should not be used for diagnostic purposes (Mullis also said that Fauci was really stupid — his words). My brother had a high fever for three weeks with pneumonia, which he had never experienced before, and he was positive. My family and I had a milder version with fever lasting less than a week, but we couldn’t recover properly for months. Of course, if they would have told us we had a nasty flu, we also would have believed it. In my hometown, though, a lot of my friends and acquaintances in their 50s died from “coronovirus,” and that’s quite unusual. I think completely making it up would have been too much to pull even for them. After all, why do they have all those biolabs around the world, if they don’t think they can concoct something lethal?

  407. geokat62 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Commenters here were ridiculing Ron when he claimed early on that millions will die of Covid-19. Now he has been proven right they claim…

    He wasn’t ridiculed for predicting a million deaths, he was ridiculed for predicting these deaths would take place over the course of a couple of months, not over the course of a couple of years…

    Like I said, I think we’ll be lucky to avoid a million deaths by early summer [2020]…

    https://www.unz.com/runz/correctly-estimating-coronavirus-infections/?showcomments#comment-3804844

    Date of comment: March 30, 2020

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  408. All I know from my immediate community is the vax does NOT keep one from getting Covid. So what does the vax do? Fauci himself came down with a rather serious case of Covid. Duh. You can have mine Mr Unz.

  409. @Scott Locklin

    Thanks for your posts, Scott.

    I also find your assertions about the CDC death numbers refreshing. Unlike Unz, not because they confirm my conclusions, but because you talk sensibly yet disagree with my conclusion.

    Would you be willing to address my questions to Unz in the last paragraph of my post #379 (he almost certainly won’t)? Sincere and respectful request. I don’t mind being shown I’m wrong — how else do we learn?

    • Replies: @Scott Locklin
  410. George 1 says:

    Good grief. The Pfizer “study” alone shows the vax is more dangerous than covid and they went to court to try and suppress the results for 75 years.

    Not to mention the insurance company actuary tables showing at least a 40 percent rise in excess death rates since the jab started going into arms.

  411. geokat62 says:

    … and if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness, the cost-benefit ratio is tremendously positive…

    Tremendously positive, huh?

    Here’s the introductory and concluding paragraphs to Imperial fantasy of 20 million lives saved:

    Imperial College has produced a new fantasy number to test people’s gullibility. This time they are claiming that 19.8 million lives have been saved by vaccination…

    Although this was not Neil Ferguson’s work, this latest model from Imperial college is also out by orders of magnitude. Modelling is nothing by glorified guessing based on extrapolating from assumptions of the authors’ choosing. The assumptions were so wild in the latest attempt that they reached the absurd fantasy of 20 million lives having been saved. It is almost not worth wasting time on it but given the coverage it has had on mainstream media, it needs to be addressed…

    How do we know they are wrong?

    If vaccination had saved lives we could look to see a difference between countries with different vaccination rates. For example, Eastern European countries have markedly different vaccination rates from 30% to 66%, yet it is impossible to predict the covid mortality numbers based on which countries had more vaccinations.

    South East Asia also tells an important story. These countries are heavily vaccinated and yet with the latest Omicron wave they have experienced mortality amounting to 300, 400 or even more per million. This is the same order of magnitude as Europe experienced in Spring 2020, with the original variant and before vaccination. The claim that vaccinations prevent 80%+ of covid deaths does not fit with what is happening in the real world.

    [Imperial College] are living in Cloud-Covid-Land. The public need to realise that institutions such as Imperial receive considerable funding from the pharmaceutical industry and this colours how evidence is presented. The mainstream media are claiming such evidence is “science” when it is not much more than marketing for the pharmaceutical industry. The chasm between reality and the mainstream narrative is widening and the public need to realise that sources they have trusted in the past cannot be trusted on this topic any longer.

    https://www.hartgroup.org/imperial-fantasy-of-20-million-lives-saved/

    • Thanks: Marcion
  412. Alfred says:
    @Toza

    “David Icke convinced me in that long April 2020 interview that there is no virus”

    They have never isolated any virus. Mixing a sample with Green Monkey kidneys plus cow’s milk and host of other procedures is no way to isolate anything.

    The “virus” was created by a computer model trying to fit together thousands of fragments of DNA. It has no connection to reality. Making a vaccine based on a falsehood leads to rubbish. The virus tests are based on this hypothetical model so they are useless.

    All attempts to make people sick bacteria and viruses have failed. That is why they banned such experiments as “unethical”. But poisoning billions of people with an unknown experimental compound is perfectly ethical. 🙂

    Of course, there is something that makes people sick. But it has not been proven to be a virus or a microbe. Some researchers postulate that germs are produced by a body under attack – a part of the defense system. Each of us has billions of germs that do useful things – or we could not live.

    • Replies: @Toza
  413. @Nervous in Stalingrad

    “Kill them all. God knows His own.” – Arnauld Amaury.

    … and so does Satan.

    I say we start with them first.

  414. Espace says:
    @Ron Unz

    Mr Unz
    Thank you for your reply. I do appreciate it. My focus is certainly not on any projections of mass deaths due to this, as it is speculative, unless the current data on ‘all cause mortality’ would lend credence to the projection. No one needs a campaign of fear, and we all need to be together on this, not apart.

  415. HockeyGuy says:

    Until someone can audit and refute the actuarial data from myriad life insurance companies who have very reliable data and have a rock solid financial motivation to be as precise and accurate as possible and are stating emphatically that they’ve never seen such high rates of death starting (in)conveniently in 2021, the idea that these “vaccines” are safe or couldn’t be the reason is just pure cognitive dissonance at best, and outright fraud at worst.

    • Agree: Alfred, hardlooker
  416. Espace says:
    @JimDandy

    Jim, there are combinations of data here with Mr. Unz’s site, along with many others that when combined, lead me to the same conclusion as you. Something is ‘afoot’ and I’m trying to put together what has happened, and who (or what) is ultimately behind this campaign. It is too coordinated amongst all governments to simply be ‘by chance’. Even though Max Igan considers the Bible a “script “ I still consider his information worthwhile, as I do Mr Unz. I just don’t understand how one could have reached the conclusions in this article after the other brilliant pieces (early works) by Mr Unz. Thanks for your reply.

  417. eldorado says:

    Ron has some good points. He could still be wrong about the vaccines. Deaths rose in 2021 after vax rollout and they should have plummeted as by that point most had been exposed. He doesn’t seem to be aware of all the evidence showing the vaccines increase susceptibility and lately even increase the risk of death.

    Also you can’t just look at overall death rates, you have to break it down by age group. Rising numbers of deaths in working age populations as evidenced in insurance industry data may be obscured by relatively fewer deaths in older age groups in 2021-2022. This is because of the increased deaths in the elderly in 2020 – many of those deaths were brought forward a few years due to COVID, so there should be a lower death rate in subsequent years.

    Still even in using the numbers presented the overall death rate for 2021 is again significantly higher than 2020.

    It’s possible many deaths attributed to COVID in 2021 are actually vaccine deaths, especially in the first 1-2 weeks after vaccination when the vaccinated are still considered “unvaccinated”.

    But his main contention that the pandemic was likely a biowarfare attack by the US against China and Iran seems likely based on his analysis and is the only conspiracy theory that nearly everyone has ignored throughout.

    It’s also not far fetched that the CIA seeded all the other conspiracies and helps them along on alternative sites.

    • Agree: Marcion
  418. @Nervous in Stalingrad

    Hot off the press:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/07/joseph-mercola/how-pfizer-profited-from-the-pandemic/

    A few older ones on Pfizer’s criminal history:

    https://www.drugwatch.com/manufacturers/pfizer/#lawsuits-and-settlements
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history
    https://www.corpwatch.org/article/pfizer-admits-bribery-eight-countries

    Then there’s this:

    http://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/IR0558-FDA-Ingredients-in-Pfizer-Vaccine_FINAL.pdf

    “However, in approving the Pfizer Vaccine for individuals 16 years of age and older, the FDA refused to release much of the information necessary to inform the public as to the composition of the Pfizer Vaccine, including the names of certain ingredients and their unique ingredient identifier (UNII).”

    So hundreds of millions, or more, are being conned and coerced into being injected with undisclosed ingredients by this serially criminal corporation, while the unzufferable Crackpot-in-Chief revels in projecting his flaws on the kettle. Unzmazing. But I would like to thank him for giving us a master class in disingenuity.

    • Replies: @Nervous in Stalingrad
  419. Sam J. says:
    @Commentator Mike

    “… I had the weirdest and harshest flu like illness I ever had in my life, with pneumonia and many sleepless nights with alternate sweating and shivering…”

    I had the same thing and it was recently. It was the sickest I have ever been from a flu like sickness. It lasted in its strongest phase for over a week. I’ve never been so sick. Lucky for me I stocked up on Ivermectin, liposomal vitamin C, zinc, quercetin and lots of NyQuil night time cough medicine beforehand.

    I wonder if I had not had these would it have killed me? I feel it would have been possible. I took the Ivermectin for four days then stopped. All the rest I took continuously. I slept almost the whole time loaded up with NyQuil which kept my coughing down. Even so my lungs, chest and throat hurt from so much coughing.

    I did not get tested for covid. I was afraid if I was positive they would drag me off, quarantine me and eventually put me on a ventilator so I did not go to a doctor. It wouldn’t have helped because they are not giving anyone medicine of any use to fighting this anyways. Shameful that it’s pointless to even go to a doctor when you are ill because of the corruption in the medical industry.

    • Replies: @Lysias
    , @Mark Hunter
  420. @Ron Unz

    What an incredible Jew-y reply, Ron. Do better.

  421. 9nope9 says:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/vaxxing-conspiracies-and-700000-rumble-views/#comment-5449217

    This answer comes out of the heads of the NPCs while they have a deep cough and rasp in their voice.

    “It reduces my chances of having a severe case of Covid”

    Since this is a referencing statement, the pertinent question to ask is this: it reduces the severity in reference to what data?

    Most likely all the unvaxxed of 2020 are included, who were straight off’d with ventilators and remdesivir.

    What exactly is a severe case and what control value is this assertion referencing?

    that’s how you cheat with statistics.

    Most anywhere, the people hospitalized with Covid since the vaxx rollout have been 85% vaxxed. That’s not mirroring the outside world. And: they’re hospitalized. That means they are indeed having a severe case.

    Not to mention in light of this any mandates don’t make the least of sense, except the strenuous argument of unvaxxed potentially overloading the hospitals. But this hasn’t come to pass. The opposite is true. It is pretty obvious that the end goal has always been to get people on some sort of digital ID and put them on a digital base income, which will expire. And Covid and climate change is the pretext for this massive bolshevist enterprise.

    Mind you anybody with half a brain can see that this is not a smooth running op, it’s a complete clusterf___. Instigated and implemented by a self-ordained elite who have no sense of application in practice or leadership qualities or competence.

  422. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    Speaking of the number of deaths:

    … if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness, the cost-benefit ratio is tremendously positive …

    Even if these “medical experts” are correct (the quotes are derogatory given the level of proven corruption among those at the CDC, FDA, NIH, and NIAID) you might compare the percentage of severely injured in the class of bona fide cases of Covid and those severely injured in the class of the vaccinated.  As Jessica Rose points out, some things are worse than death.  I don’t know where to find these numbers but the latter certainly exist:
    Highlights from Ron Johnson’s roundtable on Covid vaccine safety

    • Replies: @Peter Gent
  423. Lysias says:
    @Sam J.

    Have you had the Vitamin D levels in your blood tested? It is claimed that people with a level greater than 50 ng/mL do not contract serious cases of covid. That is consistent with my own experience.

  424. Regarding non-covid excess deaths, here is some data you may not have seen.

    Dr. Campbell is hardly a fringe nut and is not an anti-vaxer as you like to call us. It’s not known what is causing a 15 percent increase in excess deaths in the UK but it is worth considering. This is likely true for the US as well though there is no up to date data for the US.

  425. gsjackson says:
    @Ron Unz

    And the fact that there are people at VAERS on the lookout for fraud further supports the point being made by Jim H — that significant VAERS fraud exists only in the imagination of Big Pharma agenda pushers.

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  426. Toza says:
    @Alfred

    If anti-parasyte drugs help, it’s probably some kind of a parasyte. I don’t know if drugs like Ivermectin previously worked on other viruses, or on what was believed to be viruses.

  427. @Sam J.

    I stocked up on Ivermectin, liposomal vitamin C, zinc, quercetin and lots of NyQuil night time cough medicine beforehand.

    Good list. Also include vitamin D and an antithrombic such as aspirin.

    • Replies: @Peter Gent
  428. RudyM says:

    If VAERS is no good, then give us some other publicly available database for monitoring safety signals. This is one of the databases our regulatory agencies said they would monitor, but as others have pointed out above, the CDC failed to do the analysis it said it would be doing. So if it’s no fucking good, then give us something better, perhaps including making the information in the internal databases available. You can’t have this database that has been used for decades to monitor safety signals, and that is known for actually being under-reported, and then, when some freakish rushed experimental vaccine leads to more VAERS adverse event reports than any previous vaccine has ever led to, just dismiss it out of hand with your cute little story about the Hulk side effect. And I hope whoever made that report was prosecuted to the full extent of the law, by the way.

    How about creating legal pressure to make sure that VAERS–or whatever you would like to replace it with–isn’t marred by the under-reporting of adverse event? Instead there is massive anecdotal reporting of health industry employees being pressured not to make reports (on top of the difficult, time-consuming nature of making those reports).

  429. @UncommonGround

    What was the average age of those who died? How many and what were the leading co-morbidities?

    What’s more important is that Fausti and crew admitted that we, meaning the human race, are stuck with Covid for life. It’s here to stay.

    So, this crowd of incompetents manufactured some frankenmonster in a lab and it leaked out into the surrounding environment. It will afflict each and all of us till we die–you included. We all have it. You will never be rid of it. You will die with or of it. It will accompany you as a low-level infection for the rest of your life. At opportune moments, it will break through your weakened defenses and may kill you.

    Fausti et al were activated to suppress the death toll and were given license to do so with any and all means that were compatible with the financial interests of those who wield power. It is called “damage control”. The manufacturers were held blameless for any and all deaths their concoctions caused.

    This, as Ron has documented, is a crime against all humanity. I neither lessen nor exaggerate their culpability. They are stupid, selfish human beings i.e. normal, or average. To err is the norm. Look about you. They played dice with the Devil and lost. Then they did what they could to shift the blame to anywhere but upon themselves. This too is normal for most of you mere humans.

    (I don’t share your fate. I was (not of my own volition) selected and inducted into an ancient religious tradition and underwent a long, arduous apprenticeship which gave me access to a non-normal vantage point. You function in your world and I function in mine. Our lives intersect but do not run in the same track. I own my mistakes. I don’t want any Savior to die–or make any kind of atonement–for my errors.)

    Again, whether you chose the vax was entirely up to you, based upon your own assessment of your own vulnerability and your belief in its efficacy.

    Good Luck!

  430. Interesting that you cite mortality data as basically flat during this time period, yet several articles coming out from insurers and morticians indicating an uptick of perhaps 40% increase in mortality during same time period. Whose right?

  431. @xyz234

    When simple D3 supplementation would have prevented almost all the COVID issues and a year’s supply of 10,000 IU capsules are selling for \$12 on Amazon, just follow the money. Pier review research has amply demonstrated that as the blood level of vitamin D approached 50 ng/ml COVID goes to zero so that if you are above 60, you have almost nothing to worry about. Everything else is bullshit.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  432. @Mark Hunter

    Vitamin D blood levels above 50 ng/ml are all that is needed to prevent or fully mitigate COVID.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  433. @Mark Hunter

    The only REAL cost-benefit ratio comes from D3 supplementation to get your blood level above 50 ng/ml which completely mitigates COVID for \$12 a year. How is that for cost effective?

  434. Take a look at the current top article on SOTT. Is Covid vaxx good for anything, or solely harmful, life-threatening?

  435. anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    To try to cut thru the fog –

    (1) Using Ron Unz’s own chart above – reprinted just below – we see huge SPIKES IN DEATHS as the vax programme goes full-boat in late 2021, with covid allegedly ‘under much better control thanks to vaccines’

    (2) Although the chart seems to show April-May 22 death rates to finally be reverting to the 2019 and earlier levels under 238,000 monthly … any figures from the immediate previous few months are misleading, due to delays in death certificate reporting etc … expect these figures to be revised notably upwards … we more likely have entered into at least a plateau of CONTINUOUSLY HIGHER death rates in the vaxed-up world

    (3) When the 2021 death figures are broken down by segmented age groups, we see HUGE SPIKES in deaths in the 25-44 and especially 45-64 age groups, much bigger even than deaths during the ‘height of the covid epidemic’ in 2020. These are VAXED YOUNG PEOPLE DYING. This was covered by an AIER article in Jan 2022, which once again has only incomplete figures for late 2021 due to delayed death certificates etc, so the ‘down dips’ in the end-of-2021 lines are due to figures not reported at time of publication
    https://www.aier.org/article/all-cause-mortality-in-the-united-states-during-2021/

    (4) It is well-known that vulnerable elderly were ‘harvested’ by the 2020 ‘covid flu’ or whatever it was … the key observable now as well is, WHAT PROPORTION OF DEAD ARE UNDER AGE 65 NOW, and as the insurance companies and so many have been reporting, there are hugely more dead younger people, more than ever in known history, and a smaller relative percentage of older people dead, because many sick older people died 2-3 years earlier than expected … and MOST OF THE EXTRA YOUNGER DEAD ARE VAXED.

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter, W
  436. lloyd says: • Website
    @anonymous

    Genocide claims originate from nineteenth century social Darwinism with the Protestant Old Testament influence. In the twentieth century, genocide allegations became weaponised. Apparently, now even the Cro Magnons can be exempted from the accusation of genocide of the Neanderthals. I can think of two cases one in America and one in Chatham Islands New Zealand, when a person reputed to be or among the last of a dying race was kept alive by their alleged genociders. Humans like the other God’s creatures, protect their own survival.

    • Replies: @Tony Hall
  437. Hg says:

    An elaborate Rube Golberg of an article just to trott out and flog Ron’s pet project ‘blame China!’ even after reading RFKs book. Who cares where the virus came from: the virus doesnt kill people, gov’T does, that is: Government suppression of available medicines so as to support their cartel profits. Ron, if pro-vaxxers control all of the major avenues of information, why spend any time undermining the anti-vax movement? To what avail? The pro-vax movement is captured, irredeemable, and for all intents and purposes, all powerful. ANY change at all from the status quo will require its COMPLETE dismantlement. This includes dismantling the lies and distortions present in your own thought. You are far too trusting of your own ability to weed the wheat from the chaff in this regard. Your own thoughts are compromised and serve the state to is ultimate ends: seal control and vanquish opposition.

    • Thanks: W
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  438. Comparison of excess deaths between USA, France, Switzerland and Geneva.

    The US data show the total failure of the injections. And of the US medical system. Data for France 2021 are not definitive. Comparison of 2020 and 2021 with 2019.

    USA

    Year—Deaths——-Exces deaths–% excess
    2019—2,854,838
    2020—3,390,079—535,241——–15.8%
    2021—3,471,557—616,719———-17.8%

    France

    Year—Deaths—–Exces deaths–% excess
    2019—613,243
    2020—668,922—55,679———8.3%
    2021—657,000—43,757———-6.7%

    Switzerland

    Year—Deaths—Exces deaths–% excess
    2019—67,780
    2020—76,195—8,415———–11.0%
    2021—71,192—3,412———— 4.8%

    Geneva

    Year—Deaths—Exces deaths–% excess
    2019—3,372
    2020—4,279—–907————21.2%
    2021—3,352—- -20———— -0.6%

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  439. A1 says:

    Ron, this is only tangentially related to what you wrote here but it seems highly relevant to the debate on the efficacy of the vaccines. Last year many colleges mandated vaccines and boosters, but some colleges did not mandate either. I have seen no studies or references to what seems the perfect ground for comparison to answer the simple question: if cases were higher/more severe in those colleges that did not mandate vs those that did? Do you know of any studies?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  440. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    From Mr. Unz’s article:

    … I’ve sometimes had my own suspicions about the origins of the entire anti-vaxxer movement, which seemed to suddenly appear from almost nowhere early in 2021.

    It’s hard not to get impatient and annoyed with the above and start a reply with  “Look, …”

    There is a movement, if you want to call it that, of individuals criticizing the Covid injections.  Many of them argue their position cogently.  The injections came first, then thought and observation and reasons, then what you might call a movement.  The movement didn’t come out of nowhere.

    One could easily formulate a “conspiratorial” explanation for its [the movement’s] sudden rise.

    Mr. Unz then proceeds to do just that.  First he points out that Covid has killed many people around the world.  Then that a great deal of evidence has been discovered and made available proving what I’ll call the Unz Hypothesis:  that the outbreak – and hence the mass death – was blowback from a U.S. attack on China and Iran.

    The mainstream media could be relied upon to conceal the evidence for the Unz Hypothesis but what of private individuals eager to investigate government corruption?

    … how could they be diverted?  More than a dozen years ago Obama official Cass Sunstein had famously suggested that the best way to defeat “conspiracy theorists” was to have the government or its allies actively promote a wide range of their own conspiratorial theories, especially ridiculous ones, thereby contaminating and discrediting the plausible accusations that they actually feared.

    Thus in order to discredit the Unz Hypothesis the Deep State created the anti-Vaxxer movement!  The top promulgators of injection criticism are agents in the employ of rogue elements within the US. government.

    When a mysterious, dangerous virus suddenly struck both China and Iran … the most obvious possibility could best be concealed by releasing a swarm of other theories, mutually contradictory though they might be. … And sure enough, that plethora of competing conspiratorial notions has completely absorbed the attention of nearly all those conspiratorially-minded individuals who fall outside the ideological mainstream.

    The problem with this contention is obvious:  it is completely arbitrary when applied to legitimate critics of the injection.  Among the top people in the legitimate movement are:
          Peter McCullough
          Robert Malone
          Pierre Kory
          Meryl Nass
          Jessica Rose
    Four medical doctors and one bio-statistician.  Mr. Unz hasn’t one scintilla of evidence that any of them are Deep State operatives.  He just asserts that possibly they are.  And why? Because they criticize the injection.  The argument is circular and ridiculous.

    His contention is neither possible nor impossible, just arbitrary.  It is like saying, “Maybe there are two-headed humanoids on a planet orbiting Arcturus.”  There is no reason to make that claim.  It’s pulled out of the air.  It isn’t worthy of debate.  Mr. Unz’s claim – if he applies it to any of the above people – is on the same level.

    He doesn’t apply it to them explicitly.  He just makes no distinction between legitimate injection critics and cranks. He lumps them all in “the movement.” In his examples of vaccine critics you won’t find McCullough et al. or their arguments.  As with David Martin, he sets up straw men to knock down, pretending that by doing so he has knocked down better men.

    The Unz Hypothesis urgently needs to be discussed by mainstream intellectuals.  Mr. Unz seems to think that by trashing McCullough et al. he is promoting his hypothesis.  Instead he is only turning away people like me. Apparently good riddance to bad rubbish.

    Speaking of conspiracy theories, Mr. Unz might just as well have argued as follows.  One way the Deep State could discredit legitimate injection critics like McCullough et al. would be to insert noise, “releasing a swarm of other theories” to absorb the attention of those who might have given credence to the legitimate critics.  What’s sauce for the Unz Hypothesis is sauce for the claims of McCullough et  al.

  441. Skeptikal says:
    @JasonT

    Excellent wrap-up, JasonT.

    I hope Mr. Unz gets the message and starts focusing his attention on the more important questions surrounding the plandemic.

    The origin of covid is important, but Unz’s obsession seems to have blinded him to the big picture.

    Absent a clear big picture, there is little reason to think the issue of the origins of covid will ever be understood or resolved.

  442. Skeptikal says:
    @Toza

    Yes, as Alexander Mercouris recently pointed out, the NYT, WSJ, WaPo, NPR now function more or less like Isvestia, in the USSR. They put out the official state message on current events.

    Shame on Ron Unz for being so gullible.

  443. I’d like to know: what jobs do anti-vaxxers work? You can tell a lot about a person by what they do for a living. I’ve had numerous unpleasant encounters with anti-vaxxers. So what do they do? What do they contribute to society?

  444. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Skeptikal

    Since recently I’ve been critical of RU I want to distance myself from rude people like Skeptical. “Gullible” is rather harsh and there is no shame in being duped or making a mistake.

    Skeptical’s attitude is quite common in the comments. It’s not enough that RU is mistaken, he must be morally depraved, LOL.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @Skeptikal
  445. @Mark Hunter

    To spell out the implication of your last paragraph, perhaps the situation is the opposite of what Ron is suggesting, and in fact the Unz hypothesis of a deliberate US Covid bioweapon release is a false one and an intentional distraction from the truth that the Covid response has been an unprecedented public health disaster.

    • Agree: Ben the Layabout
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  446. niceland says:
    @michael888

    Arguably, as Iceland’s chief epidemiologist noted, most people would have been better off wihout vaccination.

    I would be totally surprised if he said anything of the sort. Source!?

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
    , @michael888
  447. @Skeptikal

    When was it any different? Have ye not read Chomsky and Herman’s ‘Manufacturing Consent’? Chomsky’s Massey Lectures from Canadian radio in 1988 are good, too. The way he EVISCERATES a young David Frum during ‘Questions’ is priceless!

  448. @Hg

    It would be a great mistake to underestimate how dangerous this virus is, in the medium to long-term in each case, and how dangerous it will become as it mutates. It was designed to grow more dangerous under the selective pressure of mass gene therapy injections and the ruthless suppression of useful medications like IVM, HCQ and fluvoxamine, and high dose steroids. This project grows more sinister by the day.

  449. @Mark Hunter

    And since I THANKSed your previous comment, I want to say that this one surprised me.

    IMO, your characterization of the level of patience and civility shown Mr. Unz upthread is way off the mark.

  450. @Peter Gent

    I did some pier review recently, while fishing. The dose of 10,000 IU may be too high. Vitamin D can become toxic as it is stored in fat. Daily 3000 to 5000 IU,plus daily exposure to the Sun’s rays is sufficient in mid-latitudes, but blackish folk may need more. You gotta keep an eye on those blood levels.
    However the complete and ongoing refusal by the medical Mafias and the ‘regulatory’ stooges of BigPharma to recommend prophylactic Vitamin D (plus K2 for its synergistic efficacy)particularly for vulnerable groups, is yet another CRIME committed by these Evil swine. In fact, here in Austfailia, the ABC’s ‘Health Report’ has taken to slyly and snidely denigrating Vitamin D, by concentrating on one unsuccessful trial (60k Iunits IM once a month)amidst scores of successful ones, that go unreported, and one incident of toxicity where a fool was taking 150 k IUs, on the recommendation of a ‘nutritionist’. When they announced that the report was going to be on ‘vitamin toxicity’ I immediately knew which vitamin it would be-they are slimy, sly and utterly predictable. The same creatures denounced ivermectin, in April 2020 (prescient, eh)as ‘sheep dip’.

    • Agree: IreneAthena
    • Thanks: Alfred
  451. @Unz

    I can only suppose at this point you are playing Devil’s Advocate. The information about these shots that is being buried by MSM is easily accessible.

    Looking at a few scientific/medical facts from this story is enough to cement suspicion in the wider population, and not just anti-vaxers (what a term – replete with pre-whipped hate hashtags).

    1. Placebo groups for the new mRNA tech were first unblinded then taken out of the trials altogether being offered the vax. Does that sound sensible to you? These were not vulnerable people. Check the BMJ if you think this is a conspiracy theory. Ask a good scientist you know whether this is a good policy for helping accrue information on whether a medical intervention is a go-er.

    2. As you probably know, but curiously fail to allude to, the way deaths were recorded in 2020 was changed. In the UK, deaths within 3 weeks of a positive PCR test were recorded as Covid deaths – a clear fallacy. only one doctor, who likely had never seen the patient, signed. Previously two were required to prevent malpractice. This happened worldwide – because of the WHO no doubt. In fact, your brazen attempt to suggest that the world responded in the same way as a back up for your spurious argument is laughable; the WHO required signed up members to comply or leave. C.f Magufuli.

    3. It was known by the bodies recommending roll-out to kids that this was not in their favour. Yet what do we see?

    4. All cause mortality in the UK has risen starkly – particularly in younger age groups. Deaths are rising, births are falling. Have a look at our ONS data. You need to check more than US stats – Iceland changed on a dime re the vax a while back I seem to remember. I may be wrong there.

    The rest of this reply to your only partially considered article – that’s all we have in terms of available news these days from anywhere – is anecdotal, but it’s true and worth consideration.

    I know two people in their early 50s who died suddenly in the last two months. One a cardiac event with no previous, the other a sudden and unexplained death. In my public facing job I know of a woman who has unexplained fainting episodes since the vax with no previous. She appears to have some kind of sporadic organ failure they can’t pinpoint. Another man had a cardiac event which he now seems better from. People around me are more ill – there are coughs everywhere in the height of summer – maybe Covid, maybe ADE (as I believe anti-vax groups call it). I know a woman who died in 2020 as her cancer care was cancelled.

    Previously in my public facing life which so far spans 30 years I met one person with any of these issues – early 50s and massively obese – cardiac issue. The public I meet/work with are in the 16-60 age group.

    The other anecdote is having met a wreath maker 2 weeks ago. Deaths (and he said they are not from Covid) are up. Including baby deaths. He was visibly sad as he weaved and positioned the yellow and purple flowers. The dead people are real.

    You need to dig a lot deeper Unz.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  452. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike-SMO

    pneumococcus vaccine prevents bacterial pneumonia..

    useful for perennial bronchitis sufferers, ie COPD, asthmatics, smokers and cold climate motorcyclists.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  453. thordaddy says:

    “Origin of the virus” versus “origin of the disease…”

    The sheeple are to solely focus on the former so as to not see how utterly preposterous is the latter narrative.

    What “new disease” did the doc(s) in Wuhan see that had Fauci spring into action searching for a “novel virus?”

    • Replies: @H. L. M
  454. Tony Hall says:
    @lloyd

    The term “genocide” was introduced in 1944 by Raphael Lemkin in his book, Axis Rule of Occupied Europe How is the concept of genocide rooted in “nineteenth century social Darwinism with the Protestant Old Testament influence? ?

    • Replies: @lloyd
  455. niceland says:
    @Greta Handel

    I have been rather busy for the past months and I haven’t had much worthwhile to say about covid or much else around here. And the incredible events in eastern Europe have soaked up much of my limited leisure time since February.

    However, I always keep an eye on Ron’s articles and out of curiosity I used CTRL+F to search the comments here for “Iceland”. So here I am.

    For the record I am not vaccinated. I got covid early in 2020 and reasoned I would get natural immunity that would keep me safe. A decision later supported by study from Israel showing it being much better protection against infection than full doze of Pfizer vaccine. After the main vaxx campaign over here and elsewhere it became clear right away the vaccines didn’t prevent infection or transmission – so I didn’t have much incentive to be vaccinated and I am still relying on the natural immunity I got.

    I don’t have any doubt the vaxx campaign over here helped considerably against serious outcomes. At the time the Delta variant was dominant and it was impossible to ignore the high ratio of the un-vaxxed needing hospitalization the following several weeks after the campaign. I did some back of a napkin calculation based on news reports and statistics offered by our main hospital. There was no doubt about it – the vaxx offered perhaps 70-90% defense against hospitalization.

    But then came the highly infectious Omicron variant. And infections exploded; the sort story is in few months the vast majority of Icelanders got infected. Prior to Omicron perhaps ~10% had gotten infected. Now Omicron is said to be much milder variant regarding serious disease than Delta – so its unclear if the mild outcome from all these infections were because of our very high vaccine rate, or not. Still majority of deaths from Covid happened in Iceland after the big vaccine campaign where perhaps close to 90% were vaccinated. But this was to be expected because the vaxx doesn’t provide 100% defense against serious outcome and Omicron went like wildfire through the population.

    2. {repeat} Do you think he’d endorse your reasoning and disparagement of we so-called “anti-vaxxers”?

    Yes, more or less I do.

    It seems to me Ron and I are on the same page regarding hastily made vaccines rushed to the market – with [possible] relatively high risk of side effects. The political situation, the business aspect of it and the rest. Like he put it:

    Anti-vaxxers come in a wide variety of different types, and I’d be the first to acknowledge that some of their arguments seem perfectly reasonable. The Covid vaccines were rushed into production without the usual lengthy testing period and the most popular versions used in the West rely upon an innovative new mRNA technology, so it seems quite plausible that the negative side effects have been far greater than from our annual flu shots. Billions around the world have now been vaccinated for Covid, and I would hardly be surprised if many, many tens of thousands have died as a consequence. But such losses would represent merely a tiny sliver of the 15 or 20 million killed by the disease itself, and if the medical experts are correct and vaxxing greatly reduces the risk of severe illness, the cost-benefit ratio is tremendously positive, at least for individuals who are middle-aged or older.

    Pretty good summary I think. I can understand some frustrated commenters not being happy with the Anti-vaxxers label – but given the enormity of comments on this website from people who refuse to see the nuances and view the vaxx as the pure evil, a hoax to cull the heard, or whatever, I think it’s warranted.

  456. @Mark Hunter

    That was a great comment, Mark. I noted this point too (but had already written enough comments).

    They make the vaccine mandatory. Lots of people don’t want to take it for various reasons. (Mr. Unz agrees they shouldn’t have to.) People are getting threatened by the corporations and governments. They finally create a bit of a movement to fight back, so that they aren’t forced to take the vaccine. Mr. Unz: “Who’s behind this odd anti-vaxx movement?!”

  457. niceland says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    If you access the link above and scroll down to the graph titled ‘Total Coronavirus Deaths in Iceland’, you will notice that as late as Jan 9, 2022 the number of deaths was thirty nine (39).

    In the last six months the Covid mortality has MORE THAN QUADRUPLED.
    Hmmm …. so much for ‘Covid death rate dropping like a stone’ as ‘Nice-&-Lame’ claims.

    Given the number of infections the death rate did indeed drop like stone at the time. Keep in mind during this time infections were relatively few and during the vaxx campaign only ~10% of Icelanders had been infected. Mostly the young and those who didn’t worry too much.

    However, shortly after the vaxx campaign the Omicron variant came and suddenly we saw 10 times more infections per day than the previous record in the pandemic. In next few months something like 60-80% (big majority) of Icelanders got infected. Covid got into nursing homes and hospitals infecting many of the old and frail. To be sure – the vaxx didn’t prevent infection.

    Even with vaccines providing perhaps 90% protection (I am not saying that’s the correct number) against serious outcomes – when majority of the populations becomes infected deaths will occur. That’s just the way it is.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  458. @Robert Dolan

    Let’s not forget the “coding” of Niall Feguson’s modelling that gave them the greenlight for their scary virus response.

  459. @Rumpelstiltskin

    Ron is not a libertarian so his statement, if true, isn’t surprising. He probably has the same mentaility as all statists do when it comes to what his issue is with which part he doesn’t like; the part where he has no say in my life or the part where he is only responsible for his? All statists love to throw out numbers in their attempt to circumvent the moral issue.

  460. Greg S. says:

    There are only two main theories I can come up with to explain what’s happening here:

    1) Unz, having been the recipient of 4 doses of mRNA “vaccine,” and eyeing up his 5th dose in the fall (because that is what those who have “followed the science” have done, following official recommendations) is so brain addled by spike proteins, prions, and amyloid plaques that he is barely retaining cognitive functions, resulting in the poorly reasoned, poorly researched, and poorly written babbling propaganda we see coming out of him. He believes what he is writing, even though it’s almost all wrong.

    2) Unz is gaslighting. He has personally taken zero doses of that mRNA poison and never will, but he is part of an wider agenda to convince as many people as possible to do so. His role helps sow doubt and uncertainty into the “alt” community, as he was once a respected voice (though no longer to anyone who can think).

    I have them both at about even odds right now.

    • Agree: Towey, H. L. M
    • Thanks: Espace, Theophrastus
  461. Thomm says:
    @JasonT

    People who read the alternative media can generally tell the difference between a real problem (mass murder by lethal injection) and a distraction (Unz’s navel gazing about the origins of Covid).

    Except that once you recognize what the true purpose of this website is (which is very different from its stated purpose), then it all makes sense.

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  462. H. L. M says:
    @thordaddy

    Yes, of course. The government wants you to believe there is a novel “virus” that causes a never before seen and deadly disease.

    There is no “virus” and there is no “new” disease known as Covid 19 that is caused by a virus.

    I do believe, however, that bioweapons were used to reinforce the hoax.

    • Replies: @thordaddy
  463. roonaldo says:

    A ray of hope? Sheeple rebellion?

    After one month since approval, only 2.8% of those 6 months to age 5 have been jabbed–with Mississippi at 0.5% and, as usual, rates are highest on the West Coast and the Northeast.

    Are young mothers’ protective instincts kicking in?–Washington University just announced that a study of 40,000 women showed a staggering 42% of them report menstrual irregularities after the jab.

    Jab rates are about 37% age 6-12 and 67% age 13-18, if I recall.

    Will history record “The Menstruators Rebellion?”–“No way!” cried Assistant Secretary of Health Rachel Levine, “Neither I nor any of my transgender-gal friends report any menstrual problems at all!”

    “Balderdash!” scoffed Kamala Harris, “Bleeding bleeders bled better by barely being breeders.”

    “Who cares?” muttered Joe Biden, “As long as I can sniff their hair.”

    “Spurious anomaly, doubtful data!” opined Ron Unz, “One respondent declared she had been Joan of Arc in a former life!”

  464. @Olivier1973

    Thx. Oliver1973!

    Here are some great excess death data – spoiler alert: Sweden does exceptionally well!

    If you scroll down,you’ll also find Swiss data.
    Btw: Sankt Gallan virologist Professor Pietro Vernazza has some very good excess death data from Switzerland, you’ll fin dhim on his website and in Medizin Inside.
    Orwell2024 has also some good excess death data on substack – very good.

  465. Ocko says:

    First of all we have here scientists who talk about ‘vaccine’ which is not vaccine.

    What kind of ‘scientists’ are that which can’t label a drug correctly?

    Can you trust a ‘scientist’ who is calling a gene therapy a vaccine? There is no difference between them?

    How can ‘scientists’ debate the drug when they don’t really know what is in it?

    How can they explain the weird diseases caused by ‘vaccine’ which is not vaccine and they don’t know what is in it?

    • Replies: @Random Anonymous
  466. Ocko says:

    ‘Scientist’ talk about ‘viruses’ but nobody has ever seen one. It is just plain speculation.

    They discuss things they have never seen. Then how do they know it exists?

    Science is a hoax and those ‘gurus’ are nothing but fraudsters talking about phantasies.

  467. Backward says:

    And this article tells you all you need to know about Unz and his website: pure controlled opposition as I suspected.
    Thank you, Unz, for providing ultimate evidence of your collusion and uselessness. Let your readers keep enjoying the moronic attacks on women and blacks, while they get deceived on the most fundamental matters by your manipulative drivel.

  468. Stephane says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    In itself, the number of death is meaningless because it is the product of two factors (the number of cases, and the proportion of those cases ending in death) and gives us no way to know which one is driving the number up .

    If you look further down at the Outcome of Cases (Recovery or Death) graph and compare it with the vaccination rate graph, you will see that the case/death rate slowly decrease from 3.45% in october 2020 to about 3% mid-2021, then drops faster as the vaccination rate increase and stabilise at about 0.13%, so the increase in daily death you mention is not driven by an increase of mortality, but by a more active virus circulation.

    • Replies: @Random Anonymous
  469. @Green Pyramid

    I did the numbers for my country.

    Total deaths by week 27:

    2019: 21432

    2020: 21288 (-0,6%)

    2021: 20558 (-3,4%)

    2022: 23535 (+14,4%)

    Being no statistician I would say the numbers for 2022 are significant.

  470. Cris M. says:

    In respond an anon comment further above, supposed ‘vaccines’ do nothing positive and obviously can have negative impact. Herbs and certain vitamins are immuno enhancing, mashed garlic is good antibiotic. Use press, then mash, let sit five mins, can mix in tblsp of sour cream to offset sharp taste. Then swallow of organic milk. Eat yogurt so probiotics get footing again. Repeat until better. Pneumonia is because of overt mucus and bacteria and not enough probiotics which also help cell heath. If in a pinch with substantial pneumonia chemical antiboitics could be useful but other than that focus should be other things.

    On another comment, eating false vit d has been distraction, so people don’t get daily sun or daylight for natural d and wake sleep cycle and endocrine. They want people indoors and sick. Go outside.

    ~ ps, comment 417 Lol.

  471. @Rumpelstiltskin

    Well if you scroll all the way up to my first post, you’ll find this:

    https://gist.github.com/locklin/94b7f758ece1ea347fcd000e308545cd

    In this gist I completely ignore what the CDC determined to be Covid deaths, because, like you, I had heard of a lot of shenanigans, recodings, etc etc. I just looked at total deaths. I figure lying about the total number of dead bodies is more difficult than dishonestly attributing them to some specific cause. As it turned out, when I calculate excess deaths for 2020 and 2021, I get something like the same number the CDC attributes to Corona-chan. I originally did this calculation in 2021, for a blog post on my thoughts on all the things “experts” got wrong about corona-chan. I continue to use the same dirt simple model to look for evidence of vaccine megadeath (and to continue to check the CDC’s work).

    In hindsight, thinking about how government bureaucracies work, I’m not surprised these figures are OK. The processes have been in place, probably for decades, and involve lots of boring and diligent people individually counting dead bodies.

    Of course, the politicization involved, people get all spun up about various alleged dishonesties and argue about crap like this, but if you’re numerate, you can’t help but notice there are more dead people in 2020 and 2021 than there were before. I you actually look at the plots, you’ll see it’s not the end of the world. Half a million extra deaths a year sounds like a lot, except something like 3.2 million people drop dead in a normal year in America. A good politician could spin it as a really bad flu year, as the Swedes did, and the country could get on with their lives.

    FWIIW another number which “experts” got wrong early on was infection fatality rate. I actually got it right using a similarly humble model and the early cruise ship data. Eventually, many months later, the CDC caught up with me on this one. I think US rates are higher than world norms due to obesity, but it’s clear as daylight that young people should have continued to go to work/school, and you shouldn’t “vaccinate” kids against this thing. Even now, despite the fact that virtually no children die of Covid, even using CDC data, numskulls talk about pumping them full of science juice. Thankfully I live in a slightly more sane country.

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  472. lloyd says: • Website
    @Tony Hall

    Herbert Spencer’s survival of the fittest. His social Darwinism was very fashionable in the late nineteenth century. It influenced the West’s treatments of native peoples and degenerates. It was mostly advocated by Protestants who were profoundly influenced by the Old Testament with its genocidal stories. It became notorious in the Nazi era whereas before it was thought a progressive philosophy.

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    , @Ben the Layabout
  473. Bigs says:
    @MakingItEasy

    Yeah, I have this site on my speed dial under ‘News’ but time to remove it I think.

  474. @Rumpelstiltskin

    Thank you for the reply.

    It is funny, but I used to read LRC quite a bit. Then they got carried away with alternative medicine, so I dropped the site.

    Now, most of the people I previously dismissed as “quacks” seem to be the ones asking all of the awkward questions that should be asked. I wish I could believe public health officials, but they have been caught out in so many misrepresentations and outright falsehoods at this point their duplicity has become impossible to ignore.

    Anyway, I appreciate the links. I had quite forgotten that Pfizer got hit with that thumping great fine just over a decade ago, the largest fine levied against any corporation up to that date, I understand.

    (Now, of course, they have mended their ways and are on the side of the angels. At least, that is what all of the countries paying them vast sums for vaccines seem to believe.)

    I cannot say I was surprised to learn that the US government is paying 150% of what they were paying before for Pfizer’s vaccine (it is taxpayer money, so who bothers about the price?). However, I was certainly saddened that the people making these lopsided multibillion-dollar deals do not seem to care whether they are getting their money’s worth.

    • Agree: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  475. @niceland

    No, it isn’t warranted. There are some hardcore anti-vaxxers but the great majority of people who oppose the Covid jabs aren’t that at all. Whoever understands the different layers of natural immunity, what pathogen loads and the time needed for the body to mount an immune response mean isn’t against the principle of vaccination. What we oppose aren’t vaccines.
    First, Covid jabs aren’t vaccines by any stretch of the definition.
    Second, we oppose “vaccinating” subjects, especially children, against diseases that they have zero chance of contracting, e.g. hepatitis B for toddlers and for that matter, Covid.
    Third, we oppose vaccines against non-lethal, non-debilitating diseases that confer no lasting immunity and actually put the subject at a greater risk if (s)he doesn’t renew the jab and contracts the disease as an adult than if (s)he had had the disease as a child, e.g. rubeola or mumps.
    Fourth, Big Pharma puts Hg and Al in jabs given to toddlers, do you bloody realise the damage that a few molecules highly conducive of electricity can do to the not fully configured brain of toddlers? And there’s a fifth and a sixth and a seventh, there are loads of reasons why we don’t trust Big Pharma and vaccination policies and not a single one of them has anything to do with the biological, medical principle of vaccination.

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  476. @Achmed E. Newman

    “How about you? Do you think you should have gotten the vaccine like your wife and son?”

    I haven’t had a flu shot since about 1978 or so and I don’t intend to. That probably means I won’t br able to travel to Europe for instance. That’s Okay there’s still a lot of America to see.

    My son had to get a shot because of work and my wife has a lot of fears.

    Some one asked me the other day; Are you afraid of Covid?
    I said “Covid, Covid? I ain’t afraid of no stinkin’ Covid.
    I’ll bitch slap the virus like if she were a two bit whore
    and I ain’t jokin, cause I’m Comin’ out SMOKIN’.”

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  477. @europeasant

    I like your attitude AND your lyrics, EP!

    The odd thing is that my wife got really adamant about I and my young son getting flu shots in the late fall of ’20 (before Covid vaccines came out, but winter brings flu season).

    I may have gotten one or two in my life before. I couldn’t care one way or the other, but I lean toward no medicine unless I need it. (Never had any kind of bad flu.). The only reason we both got it, is that the store offered 10 bucks – yeah, I know, but, as I wrote, I didn’t care either way.

    One year later she had gotten over her intial, ~ 4 month Kung Flu hysteria. A year after that, (almost), as in now, she is hard-core with me on the stupidity of the whole PanicFest, especially laughing at the current stupid nonsense in China with me. Now, she would quit her job before they made her take any vaccines, even the flu vaccine!

    You can go to some places in Europe now, EP. I know this.

    .

    PS: I asked a young colleague who will be traveling to Egypt, as we were interested in doing, about the deal there, as her friend had already gone. She suggested photoshop or MS-Paint, even, would be just fine when it came to “vaccine passports”. I.E. nobody cares. Most people finally get wise to the bullshit.

    • Replies: @europeasant
  478. Towey says:
    @Greg S.

    I go for the second option.