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Several days ago a mainstream policy analyst dropped me a note mentioning that the Russians were claiming to have discovered the existence of a network of biowarfare labs in Ukraine, funded by the American Pentagon and allegedly working with anthrax and plague. Given that much of my focus over the last two years had been on America’s biowarfare program and its possible deployment, he wondered what I thought about the matter.

I’d seen some of the same Russian accusations swirling around the Internet, and hadn’t paid much attention. On the one hand, over the decades America had spent over \$100 billion dollars on “biodefense,” the euphemistic term for biowarfare development, and we had the world’s oldest and largest such program, one of the few ever deployed in real life combat. So allocating a few millions or even tens of millions to labs in Ukraine would hardly be implausible.

But on the other hand, even if we hadn’t, the Russians might certainly say we had, with those charges being almost stereotypical examples of the “black propaganda” used by an invading army to justify its attack to the world. Since I don’t read Ukrainian, the documents the Russians claimed to have found would mean nothing to me, and except for zealous partisans on each side, I doubted whether anyone else would be convinced one way or the other.

However, the situation drastically changed on Tuesday, due to the Congressional testimony of Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, chief architect of our Ukraine policy. She seemed not only to acknowledge the existence of those Ukrainian biolabs but was also apparently concerned that their dangerous contents might fall into enemy hands, thereby seeming to completely confirm those shocking Russian accusations. I’ve never regarded Neocons as particularly bright, but the game-ending own-goal she scored on an issue of the greatest international importance may have set a new record for total incompetence.

I was hardly the only person to notice the massive implications of Nuland’s apparent disclosure. Glenn Greenwald ranks as one of the world’s highest-profile journalists, and he quickly released a lengthy column yesterday morning laying out the facts, and noting that our official media fact-checkers had spent a couple of weeks denouncing and ridiculing accusations that now seem to have turned out to be true.

Tucker Carlson devoted his top-rated show on cable to the same issue, emphasizing the shame of having to quote official Russian and Chinese government propagandists on the matter because our own American government officials had been lying.

All the facts are not yet in, but at this stage I think we should probably assume that the captured documents provided by the Russians are correct, and our Defense budget was funding the development of deadly biological weapons at Ukrainian labs near the Russian border, including anthrax and plague.

Given that Ukraine ranks as one of Europe’s most corrupt states, word of these projects surely leaked out, and it’s easy to understand why the Russians took a very dim view of it, certainly contributing to their decision to invade. How would America react if a rabidly-hostile Mexican government backed by China were developing deadly bioweapons near the American border?

Naturally, this gigantic story based upon Nuland’s inadvertent disclosure has been totally ignored by America’s mainstream media, but Carlson’s Youtube clip from last night is already approaching a million views, and the facts will continue to spread.

Kevin Barrett quickly arranged an interview with me, and released a short video outlining the story, and setting it in a broader context. In particular, he noted that back in 2017, Russian President Vladimir Putin had raised serious biowarfare concerns about our collection of biological material from ethnic Russians, certainly a very suspicious project for our government to have undertaken.

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In any event, I think it was an extremely reckless and foolish thing for the American government to have funded the creation of biowarfare facilities in Ukraine, a country enormously hostile to its nuclear-armed Russian neighbor.

And governments that do some extremely reckless and foolish things are much more likely to have done other extremely reckless and foolish things, possibly including those that have already had massive adverse consequences, such as a million American deaths over the last two years.

During those same two years, I have published a lengthy series of articles outlining the strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the global Covid epidemic was the result of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), with the articles having been viewed a total of more than 400,000 times and also collected into a freely downloadable eBook.

The evidence I have accumulated seems rather massive and the only argument anyone has ever effectively raised on the other side is that even rogue elements of the Trump Administration could not possibly have done anything so reckless and foolish. I think that argument seems far weaker today than it did a week ago.

Moreover, late last month the New York Times reported on a couple of new scientific papers by our top researchers on the original Covid outbreak in Wuhan. Those findings indicate that the first infection probably occurred in late November or early December, somewhat later than had previously been believed. Meanwhile, back in April 2020 ABC News reported and Israeli TV confirmed that our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a secret report “in the second week of November” describing a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. This DIA report now appears to have been written before the first Chinese person had even become infected.

I think that previous inadvertent disclosure by our Intelligence officials falls into the same category as Victoria Nuland’s blunder.

All of this was discussed in three of my video interviews last month, which have now passed 170,000 total views. I suggest that people consider revisiting this material given the new disclosure of our anti-Russian biowarfare activities in Ukraine.

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  1. Is it possible Mr. Unz Westinghouse Science Talent Search Winner that the current avian flu epidemic affecting American chicken flocks is blowback-or payback?-from a reputed bio attack on Chinese fowl and swine which predated Covid?

  2. Chris Moore says: • Website

    All the facts are not yet in, but at this stage I think we should probably assume that the captured documents provided by the Russians are correct, and our Defense budget was funding the development of deadly biological weapons at Ukrainian labs near the Russian border, including anthrax and plague.

    The ZOGs of chaos strike yet again.

    the only argument anyone has effectively raised on the other side is that even rogue elements of the American government could not possibly have done anything so reckless and foolish.

    Zoglodytes amount to perpetual pearl-clutchers. That’s their reaction to literally every grain of truth that escapes the propaganda matrix, from 9/11 to the Plandemic, and now this. We have an “elite” of grifters, con artists, mass killers, and their pearl-clutching coolies. They wreak of sickness, weakness, decay, and death. They putrefy everything they touch. They don’t have a noble bone in their bodies. They may have no bones at all — like a snake.

    Or a Serpent.

    • Agree: Lurker
  3. In any event, I think it was an extremely reckless and foolish thing for the American government to have funded the creation of biowarfare facilities in Ukraine, a country extremely hostile to its nuclear-armed Russian neighbor.

    To say the very least. Hubris, evil and incompetence is a bad mix. I would be in no way surprised if both Russia and China view this reckless and foolish thing – along with its parallels in Kazakhstan, Georgia and places within and near China to be an act of war. In light of Pompeo’s visit to Taiwan and promises of help from the regime in DC, Xi might very well decide its time to acquire the facilities that manufacture 92% of the computer chips. Taiwan’s entire population is less than the city of Shanghai. Admiral Levine and the rest of the pink fleet wouldn’t even make it there before it was a fait accompli.

    • Agree: Realist
  4. How would America react if a rabidly-hostile Mexican government backed by China were developing deadly bioweapons near the American border?

    Exactly.

    According to the below linked article:

    Russian specialists of the NBC protection troops have studied documents on the transfer of human biomaterials taken in Ukraine to foreign countries on the instructions of US representatives.

    Detailed information about the implementation of a project by the United States on the territory of Ukraine to study the transfer of pathogens by wild birds migrating between Ukraine and Russia and other neighboring countries was of particular interest.

    According to the documents, the American side planned to organize work on pathogens of birds, bats and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022. And further study of the possibility to transfer of African swine fever and anthrax by them.

    According to the documents, experiments with samples of bat coronavirus were carried out in biological laboratories created and funded in Ukraine.

    The purpose of these and other Pentagon-funded biological researches in Ukraine was the creation of mechanism for the covert spread of deadliest pathogens.

    https://thesaker.is/ministry-of-defence-of-the-russian-federation-statements-and-those-biological-labs/

    Wouldn’t any reasonable person see such a situation as a casus belli for a major war? The Russian government would now seem to have justification to issue an ultimatum to the U.S. “government.”

    The evidence I have accumulated seems rather massive and the only argument anyone has effectively raised on the other side is that even rogue elements of the American government could not possibly have done anything so reckless and foolish. I think that argument seems far weaker today than it did a week ago.

    The thing is, the madmen who control the U.S. “government” are desperate; and desperate people are known to do reckless and foolish things. As I see it, the exit from the INF treaty, the covid plandemic, the illegal military adventure in Syria and the trade war against China, are all examples of reckless and foolish acts by the Satanic cult that runs the U.S. “government.”

  5. We’ve never ever gotten any type of truth concerning bioweapons, who pays for them and where they are made to circumvent American law.

    You’d almost think that these labs are all over the world in the hopes that one day some low-level night janitor accidentally opens the wrong freezer and begins a worldwide pandemic . . .

  6. Why is it so complicated to grasp the Judeo-Satanic American Empire was studying causcoid peoples for the purposes of world wide ethnic cleansing? Ukraine is controlled by Jews, the West is controlled by Jews, the Jews hate whites and specifically Christian Whites. Not difficult, Unz.

  7. TG says:

    Here’s a more general comment on something that I still just don’t understand.

    COVID might or might not have come from lab in Wuhan that was at least partly funded by the Untied States. We will likely never know for sure.

    BUT: AT ONE LEVEL WHO CARES?

    The bottom line is that all labs are ‘leaky’, no matter how high the nominal security rating is. Human beings are human beings, and there will always be a time when someone scratches their nose when they shouldn’t, etc.

    Maybe we do need to study really dangerous pathogens – OK – but then why are we spreading these research labs all over the world and often in densely populated cities? Regardless of whether COVID specifically came from a lab, it could have, and it’s still risky to do this sort of stuff, isn’t it?

    I know someone that I respect, who is a good person, who is doing research on making pneumonia multi-drug resistant in a lab right inside a large city that is basically in a shopping mall. I mean, the research is ‘sexy’ and it’s easy to get funded, and nobody wants to work in a bunker in the middle of nowhere, so I understand the pressures here – but still, why are we doing this?

    Regardless of where COVID came from, and regardless of whether the US funded labs in Ukraine release something bad, we need to stop throwing these labs all over the world, we need to concentrate them and look at them really hard and probably put them in the middle of the desert, on our own territory, where technicians go for stints like the workers for offshore oil wells. It would be expensive, it would be inconvenient.. but as inconvenient as COVID has been?

    Why are we still doing this? Why does nobody question the wisdom of funding labs with dangerous pathogens all over the place, especially in other countries?

  8. Wielgus says:

    (colonelcassad.livejournal.com – Yandex translation, edited)
    Briefing of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation on the American military biological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine.

    So far, the Russian Federation has provided more facts and evidence of attempts by Americans to develop WMD in Ukraine than the United States itself could find in Iraq in attempts to “detect” Saddam Hussein’s WMD.
    For readers of the blog, the topic is certainly not new, the first materials on this topic were published 5 years ago. Now it’s just that all this is gradually being confirmed and overgrown with texture. Hence the hasty attempts by the United States to tie up the loose ends.
    Nuland, of course, made a big mistake when she admitted the existence of laboratories, and then began to justify them. Not only in our country, but also in the States, they have seized on this. If the Russian Federation competently plays this card, it may turn out the same as it did with the story about the secret CIA prisons, which were also in Ukraine.
    (Note: shows claimed document in Ukrainian, mentioning experimentation with various unpleasant bacterial cultures like Yersinia pestis and Bacillus anthracis.)

    • Thanks: Spanky
    • Replies: @MGB
  9. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    That the hand-picked Ukrainian ‘leaders’ would go along with something like this on their territory shows what a bunch of bought-off whores they are, possibly putting their own populations at risk in return for large amounts of money and an eventual plane ticket out of there if needed. Russian sources turn out to be better and more factual than western outlets regarding this and other issues. After all, they are similar in language and physical appearance with a shared history of sorts so Ukraine would expectedly be permeated with people reporting things to Russia. Regarding origins of covid, every day that goes by validates Mr Unz even further. Who knows what they’ve really been up to all along.

    • Replies: @Tucker
  10. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    The biolabs issue is big. This is the former PM of Ukraine Mykola Azarov claiming, in 2020, that the reason for the 2014 coup was that his government was going to shut down the US biolabs (auto-translated):

    Mykola Azarov: We were overthrown because we wanted to close Pentagon bio labs – новости-украины, April 28, 2020

    Former Prime Minister of Ukraine Mykola Azarov, who held this post under President Viktor Yanukovych , spoke about the activities of the biological laboratories of the US Department of Defense on the territory of his country.

    In his Facebook, the ex-premier emphasized that his government had nothing to do with the opening of these centers. The decision to start their work was made by Yulia Tymoshenko’s cabinet.

    And an agreement was signed between the US Department of Defense and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine on the establishment of such laboratories in August 2005 under the presidency of Viktor Yushchenko, when Tymoshenko was already retired.

    “What to say? Of course, not a single sovereign and independent country that thinks about its people and the future will let other people’s uncles into the issues of biological safety of the population, ” writes Azarov.

    He notes that the goals for which these laboratories were created are unknown to this day, since all their activities are classified, and Ukrainian citizens are not even allowed to work closely.

    “Since 2005, the United States has established laboratories in Odessa, Vinnytsia, Lvov, Kherson, Ternopil and a number of other settlements in Ukraine. I emphasize that these are the laboratories of the American military, ”says the former head of the cabinet.

    According to him, after his government came to power in 2010, negotiations were launched with the Americans on this issue. In 2012, Kyiv started talking about granting Ukrainian scientists access to these centers or their complete closure. At that time, inspections of the activities of these laboratories were initiated.

    “With sin in half, we were shown something, but what we saw did not suit us. In 2013, we sent an official letter to the US Government to terminate this agreement. What happened next, you yourself know: a coup d’etat, Maidan, which, in fact, was organized by the Americans. Now these laboratories continue to work in Ukraine. Nobody controls them, they flourish ,” Azarov concludes.

    Earlier, EADaily reported that the US Embassy recognized the presence of American biological laboratories in Ukraine. According to the official version, their goal is “peaceful research and development of vaccines “.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @JWalters
    , @Tarrasik
  11. mijj says:

    dancing around definitions of words to avoid meaningful answer = guilt

  12. Notsofast says:

    as the frumpy dumpy maidan cookie monster tries to parse her response to rubio’s question, the look on her face is priceless. zioneocon deer in the headlights. little marco did his best to give her an out asking, “if there is a biological or chemical weapons incident or attack inside ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100% it would be the russians behind it?”. “no doubt in my mind senator..” responds the cookie monster. i guess the russians are going to use the bioweapons that we don’t make in our 30 nonexistent bioweapon labs to poison the totally innocent ukanazis. that’s just so russian.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @JWalters
  13. Here is some more food for thought, from the nefarious RT — also in an archived version, since in Portugal where I live it is blocked so as to protect me from harmful content (bold added):

    https://www.rt.com/russia/551617-bat-coronavirus-us-funded-labs-ukraine/

    https://archive.ph/m3i4p

    US-funded laboratories in Ukraine captured by Russian forces last week were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus and other dangerous pathogens, Moscow claimed on Thursday, citing documents seized at the facilities. There were allegedly plans to move on to African swine fever virus and to anthrax.

    Igor Konashenkov, spokesperson for Russia’s Ministry of Defense, said that “experiments with samples of bat coronavirus were being carried out in the bio-laboratories, created and funded [by the US] in Ukraine, as documents show.” The Russian official went on to claim that in 2022 the US was intending to “work on bird, bat and reptile pathogens,” with plans to move on to research into whether those animals can “transmit African swine fever virus and anthrax.”

    According to Konashenkov, the scientists were looking into, among other things, the possibility of pathogen transmission by wild birds migrating between Russia, Ukraine and other neighboring countries.

    According to the article, Russia has captured “several” such facilities.

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @DevilAdvocate
  14. anon[366] • Disclaimer says:

    Back in 2010 Russia was going through treaty body channels, talking about CIA’s banned biological weapons,

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/russian-government-violation-by-the-us-of-its-obligations-in-the-sphere-of-nonproliferation-of-wmd/20564

    It’s amazing that it took twelve more years of goose-stepping, nuke threats, germ warfare and bulldozing Russians into mass graves before Russia got fed up.

  15. saggy says: • Website

    What we are seeing is a monumental hoax in real time, no doubt similar to the ones during WW I and WW II, where reality is turned upside down for the US hoi polloi, who believe every word and beyond that become emotionally invested in it. So, following the disclosure that the Russian reports of he Ukrainian bio labs are true, the media claims that Russia is planning a chemical attack !!!

    • Agree: Charles
    • Replies: @Charles
  16. So far, the Russian Federation has provided more facts and evidence…

    The same has since been proven true regarding “news” published by the United States and “propaganda” published by the Soviet Union during the Cold War years (1950s-1990s).

    Although we did not know it at the time, Soviet propaganda was very often more accurate than US news.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Thanks: Sarah
  17. Realist says:

    Ron, thanks for the informative article and videos.

    I think one of the most interesting bits of information was that Putin complained, in 2017, that America was collecting bio information on different Russian groups. To me, this suggests that the U.S. was trying to develop biological weapons that were ethnic-specific in an effort to prevent the blowback situation you described with Covid. It also suggests that the U.S. is using genomic data to fine-tune bio-weapon targets for attack. This would be a large step in the developmental sophistication of biological weapons.

    • Agree: Charles
    • Replies: @MarkU
    , @Charles
    , @neprof
    , @Kali
  18. RobinG says:
    @Anonymous

    THANK YOU. Do you have a link to the original? Please post.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  19. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @RobinG

    I have a link, but I’m not sure it will display correctly because of the Cyrillic characters in the address. It’s in the first comment on this page from the Saker’s blog:

    https://thesaker.is/ministry-of-defence-of-the-russian-federation-statements-and-those-biological-labs/

  20. Wielgus says:
    @Carroll price

    I studied Russian in the USSR in the summer of 1984 and stayed in hotels and hostels. I remember sitting in the lobby of a hotel in Kiev and in the lobby there were various Communist publications in several languages. One was the Canadian Tribune published by the Communist Party of Canada. It had an article about a Canadian artist who had painted a picture “Massacre of the Maya”, showing Maya Indian women in Guatemala being raped and murdered by US-backed death squads. An art gallery had rejected the picture. In the MSM of the West there was a news blackout on this kind of thing at the time.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Tony Ryals
    , @Swaytonious
  21. Lionheart says:

    “Nuland’s inadvertent disclosure”

    I do not think this Nuland testimony was ‘inadvertent’ or ‘a blunder’, nor even ‘incompetent’. It seems much more like damage limitation, given the widespread availability of historical information on these Obama-era plans (and maybe earlier than that), followed by attempts (ongoing) to deny the prospective military/warfare uses and then projecting blame for the ‘discovery’ onto the other side.

  22. Realist says:
    @Harold Smith

    The thing is, the madmen who control the U.S. “government” are desperate; and desperate people are known to do reckless and foolish things.

    I agree with your comments. The people who control this country are avaricious and lust for power…they have no intention of giving up. They will do anything to retain their position…and I mean anything.

  23. Victoria Nuland, chief architect of our Ukraine policy. She seemed not only to acknowledge the existence of those Ukrainian biolabs but was also apparently concerned that their dangerous contents might fall into enemy hands

    What is puzzling me is why she made this admission. She is way too smart to do this kind of thing, and her default position should be to deny this.

    There must have been a reason. My hope is that Russia is closer to victory than our “Wag the Dog” media would have us believe and the Russians will be able to show these Bio labs to the world. So maybe an admission now is to pave the way for claiming benign intent behind them.

    to repeat myself, she is way too practiced in deception to make an error like this.

  24. The world needs to get handcuffs on the covert biological warfare mass murderers now.. And that means NOW…

    • Agree: Swaytonious
  25. Emslander says:

    The evidence I have accumulated seems rather massive and the only argument anyone has ever effectively raised on the other side is that even rogue elements of the Trump Administration could not possibly have done anything so reckless and foolish. I think that argument seems far weaker today than it did a week ago.

    Classic gambit, Mr. Unz. Set up the straw man that “the only argument anyone has ever raised on the other side is that”, inserting the weakest of paraphrases of the weakest of arguments. Then knock that straw man down with “that argument seems far weaker today.”

    The strongest argument in my book against your thesis is that no “rogue element” in the Trump administration could have engineered and proposed such a far-reaching and violent plan without being exposed ten minutes later by every wannabe “whistleblower” at Fort Detrich. No one involved in the execution of the plan would want to be on the wrong side of it, so they’d quickly be on the phone with their favorite Democrat Congressman or WAPO reporter.

    Please don’t insult us any further with your endlessly trying to shore up a silly theory about the beginning of the flu.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Ulf Thorsen
    , @Mr. Anon
  26. Quizzler says:

    As usual (far more often than not) a very informative article Mr. Unz. I get an elevated blood pressure and acid reflux reading mainstream articles…the sheer ignorance of our population is staggering. I do not for one minute think I know anything but I do try to read different viewpoints and in the last 20 years of my life I have read things I was not taught and have been humbled. I do try…keep writing.

    • Thanks: Ukraine Tiger
  27. No surprise here. I mean, what’s all the fuss? Isn’t this just all part of the ‘peace dividend’ we see playing out here? Sheesh. But seriously, who’s the “Evil Empire” now?

  28. @Emslander

    Frankly I think the real mistake was his saying “Trump administration”. This all began under Obama from all the info I have seen thus far. Also, there is a treasure trove of historical info regarding “rogue” activities by some of the alphabet agencies regardless of who the president is. Look back, for instance, at all the now exposed programs wherein chemical and bio agents were released onto the American public without the knowledge of whichever president was serving at the time. This modus operandi has been at play for a long time.

    • Agree: Kali
  29. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Lionheart

    I do not think this Nuland testimony was ‘inadvertent’ or ‘a blunder’, nor even ‘incompetent’. It seems much more like damage limitation, given the widespread availability of historical information on these Obama-era plans (and maybe earlier than that), followed by attempts (ongoing) to deny the prospective military/warfare uses and then projecting blame for the ‘discovery’ onto the other side.

    They know that the dumbed-down goy population will just see the “Russia did it” talking points vis-a-vis biological weapons in Ukraine. The ((Jews)) will turn this into their latest mantra, and ape it in MSM.

    No one of import will name the ((Jew)), hence most people will remain blinkered and oblivious. The Serpent will continue to plague humanity until Christians get their shit together. Ukraine proves ((Jews)) can even co-opt Nazis. In fact, Judeofascists and neo-Nazis are a natural fit, just like Judeofascists and Bolsheviks.

  30. Ukraine, a country enormously hostile to its nuclear-armed Russian neighbor.

    Why? Why the extreme hostility to its ethnic sister and near neighbor?

    Because of its, Ukraines, extreme corruption? Because of its very high Jewish population? Are the two linked?

    • Replies: @meamjojo
    , @Ukraine Tiger
  31. anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:

    Nuland’s acknowledgement of US crime is no blunder. CIA use of banned biological weapons was coming out anyway. And this particular crime was in her wheelhouse. So exposure to a so-called “oversight” body absolves her of command responsibility.

    For the same reason Obama acknowledged US torture. Word was out, the high command in Langley was busted, and Obama didn’t want to get scapegoated for grave CIA crimes – like Nixon did for the bombing of neutral Cambodia.

    You can see CIA setting up Schwab like Oswald as their germ warfare patsy. Schwab is a CIA creation spawned in the NGOs that CIA proliferates to conceal its foreign interference. They dressed him up in that ridiculous alien space suit vest to make him look like Dr. Evil. Now brainwashed morons will blame him for CIA’s invariant two-step of germ war and vaccine profiteering.

    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/03/investigative-reports/dr-klaus-schwab-or-how-the-cfr-taught-me-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb/

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  32. @Spender_CGB

    to repeat myself, she is way too practiced in deception to make an error like this.

    Maybe she is a master of the art of deception. She comes up with a still larger lie, namely that the Russians are planning to use bio-warfare devices in Ukraine. No one in the MSM will contradict her, and, according to Leo Strauss himself, a lie that is repeated again and again will become the truth in the minds of the larger population. So the lie is that the biolabs were just defensive in nature and the Russians are evil on earth and that script becomes the MSM script.

  33. meamjojo says:

    Do you seriously think that IF Ukraine had bio weapons that they wouldn’t have used them by now? Lobbed them into Russia? Shot them at the Russian convoy?

    There are many internet “pundits” who are saying that Putin should be allowed to take Ukraine because if Russia gets pushed into a corner, then of course Putin will release his nukes, the ultimate weapon. So WHY wouldn’t you believe that Ukraine do the same if pushed into that same corner (which is where they are now)?

    80% of you people are dumber than a log!

  34. @Lionheart

    I agree. Now that it’s out in the open and can’t be denied, it’s an attempt to shape the narrative by getting out in front of the story.

    The question and the response was obviously rehearsed.

    • Agree: acementhead
  35. meamjojo says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Why? Why the extreme hostility to its ethnic sister and near neighbor?

    Because of its, Ukraines, extreme corruption? Because of its very high Jewish population? Are the two linked?

    49,000 to 400,000 out of 44 million is a “very high Jewish population”? Even at the high estimate, that is still under 1%. [roflol]

    Reference:

    How many Jews live in Ukraine?

    Today, it’s hard to calculate Ukraine’s Jewish population accurately and estimates range from 49,000 to 400,000.

    Hebrew University demographer Sergio Della Pergola put the number at 49,000 in his “World Jewish Population, 2019,” while The European Jewish Congress estimates the number of Jews to be between 360,000 and 400,000.

    https://jewishunpacked.com/who-are-the-jews-of-ukraine/

  36. Franz says:
    @Harold Smith

    The thing is, the madmen who control the U.S. “government” are desperate

    The US government totally corrupt and totally incompetent. Bad combination.

    Your mind can’t be on two things at once. Nuland and Rubio just proved it. You cannot mimic American loyalty when your first priority is Israel. Sooner or later the curtain opens. Amazing timing for the Russians and they probably can’t believe their luck.

  37. Miro23 says:
    @Spender_CGB

    What is puzzling me is why she made this admission. She is way too smart to do this kind of thing, and her default position should be to deny this.

    Normally yes, but was she expecting this mess? Her whole Ukraine project is falling apart and she can’t use all the pre-prepared scripts. Maybe she’s just losing control and getting confused.

    • Agree: JWalters
    • Replies: @Jaded
  38. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Former Prime Minister of Ukraine Mykola Azarov, who held this post under President Viktor Yanukovych , spoke about the activities of the biological laboratories of the US Department of Defense on the territory of his country.

    In his Facebook, the ex-premier emphasized that his government had nothing to do with the opening of these centers. The decision to start their work was made by Yulia Tymoshenko’s cabinet.

    And an agreement was signed between the US Department of Defense and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine on the establishment of such laboratories in August 2005 under the presidency of Viktor Yushchenko, when Tymoshenko was already retired.

    [MORE]

    “What to say? Of course, not a single sovereign and independent country that thinks about its people and the future will let other people’s uncles into the issues of biological safety of the population, ” writes Azarov.

    He notes that the goals for which these laboratories were created are unknown to this day, since all their activities are classified, and Ukrainian citizens are not even allowed to work closely.

    “Since 2005, the United States has established laboratories in Odessa, Vinnytsia, Lvov, Kherson, Ternopil and a number of other settlements in Ukraine. I emphasize that these are the laboratories of the American military, ”says the former head of the cabinet.

    According to him, after his government came to power in 2010, negotiations were launched with the Americans on this issue. In 2012, Kyiv started talking about granting Ukrainian scientists access to these centers or their complete closure. At that time, inspections of the activities of these laboratories were initiated.

    “With sin in half, we were shown something, but what we saw did not suit us. In 2013, we sent an official letter to the US Government to terminate this agreement. What happened next, you yourself know: a coup d’etat, Maidan, which, in fact, was organized by the Americans. Now these laboratories continue to work in Ukraine. Nobody controls them, they flourish ,” Azarov concludes.

    Earlier, EADaily reported that the US Embassy recognized the presence of American biological laboratories in Ukraine. According to the official version, their goal is “peaceful research and development of vaccines “.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  39. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @anonymous

    You can see CIA setting up Schwab like Oswald as their germ warfare patsy. Schwab is a CIA creation spawned in the NGOs that CIA proliferates to conceal its foreign interference.

    Judeofascists, Zionists and Neocons/Lib-cons are going to scapegoat Judeofascists, Zionists and Neocons/Lib-cons? I don’t think so. They’re tied at the waist. Did Trump get scapegoated for assassinating Soleimani?

    The Serpent has one head and a lot of muscle. The factions of muscle are rivals, but not enemies. They know if they go internecine, they’ll be snake soup.

    This is Christianity vs. the Serpent, yet again. Christianity won in Book 1. The Serpent has won in Chapter 1 of Book 2, which started early in the 20th Century. If the Serpent wins in Chapter 2, Book 2 will end up in the ash heap, along with everyone else, including ZOG filth.

    Maybe the Serpent will survive, if it burrows deep enough.

  40. They are still conspiracy theories. The labs have not even been an open secret. They weren’t secret to anyone who has watched what has been going on over the last 20 years. they aren’t what Putin wished they were. Putin is looking for something, anything, to cover his KGB butt for the failed invasion.

    https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03/08/obama-led-ukraine-biolab-efforts/

    To so many of the denizens of the site, it’s all about da joooooooos.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz, meamjojo
    • Disagree: bispora
    • Troll: Ann Nonny Mouse, DNA999
  41. MEH 0910 says:

    David French proffers links to other’s counter-arguments:

    • Troll: Boo, Boo
    • Replies: @Ulf Thorsen
    , @The Alarmist
  42. @MEH 0910

    LOL! Yes, yes we certainly can believe anyone who FOX has on to rebut. Same said FOX who took money from this regime to promote vaccines. Same with News Max. These fraudsters never sleep.

    https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/fox-news-and-newsmax-took-biden-money?s=r

    • Replies: @Emslander
  43. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @meamjojo

    80% of you people are dumber than a log!

    that may be true, but 95% of us are 20 percenters.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  44. @Anonymous

    And an agreement was signed between the US Department of Defense and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine on the establishment of such laboratories in August 2005 under the presidency of Viktor Yushchenko, when Tymoshenko was already retired.

    If the Agreement goes back to Yushchenko in 2005, then the George Bush administration is complicit:

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/putin-recognizes-eastern-ukrainian-independence-sends-the-troops-in/#comment-5196400

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/putin-recognizes-eastern-ukrainian-independence-sends-the-troops-in/#comment-5196784

    George W. (the Cheerleader) Bush went face-to-face with Yushchenko and was rebuffed.

    It was his quarterbacking father who kicked off US “pivot to empire” when he insisted on invading Iraq 1990-1991 to “save the incubator babies,” but in fact, as his henchmen affirmed, “to fulfill the promise of WWII: to establish a New World Order.” https://www.c-span.org/video/?310832-1/into-desert-reflections-gulf-war

    • Replies: @RobinG
  45. @Franz

    You cannot mimic American loyalty when your first priority is Israel.

    I don’t think “Israel” actually means anything more to them (the elders) than “America” does. After all, once America is in ruins, how will they prop up Israel?

    I believe their priority is to corrupt the whole world (i.e. to proselytize the world for their “god,” Satan), and to destroy whatever they can’t corrupt.

    • Replies: @Franz
  46. You can’t do research on defensive biowarfare without doing research on offensive biowarfare. It’s all the same. You can’t even do gain of function research without, at the same time, learning how to attack biologically.

    There have been too many US and NATO wars of aggression not to be suspicious but a good reason to be suspicious isn’t proof. For example, I’m suspicious that COVID-19 was a biological warfare attack by the USA on China but I don’t regard that as proven.

    Do I think that there are highly placed US people who would be so stupid that they wouldn’t know that the USA is a complete loser managing an epidemic and China is a winner? Of course. There are plenty of Yanks who have no idea of their weaknesses. The Yanks are very good at development of treatments for wide spread diseases among wealthy people because that’s profitable. It’s only profitable because it’s widespread and that’s the definition of being a loser during an epidemic. If you prevent the epidemic, there’s no profit, just expense.

    None of that proves anything about guilt; it just proves that fanatical Yank ideological rigidity can lead to being a loser. We can confidently predict that the USA would lose a biological war with New Zealand or Singapore even without either of those countries retaliating in any way. Even if the USA had a vaccine ready, there’s always evolution to consider and a disease that can threaten the genocide of the target people has to be highly infectious. Would that stop the USA taking on China or Russia? I strongly suspect it wouldn’t. Is my suspicion proof? Of course not. Suspicion is just suspicion. [email protected]

    • Replies: @dimples
    , @Old Brown Fool
  47. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anita Patel

    Is it possible Mr. Unz Westinghouse Science Talent Search Winner that the current avian flu epidemic affecting American chicken flocks is blowback-or payback?-from a reputed bio attack on Chinese fowl and swine which predated Covid?

    Did you see this from 2010?

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110522081423/http://www.bioprepwatch.com/news/213421-biolab-opens-in-ukraine

    Biolab opens in Ukraine
    by Tina Redlup on June 18, 2010

    U.S. Sen. Dick Lugar applauded the opening of the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine, this week, announcing that it will be instrumental in researching dangerous pathogens used by bioterrorists.

    The level-3 bio-safety lab, which is the first built under the expanded authority of the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program, will be used to study anthrax, tularemia and Q fever as well as other dangerous pathogens.

    “The continuing cooperation of Nunn-Lugar partners has improved safety for all people against weapons of mass destruction and potential terrorist use, in addition to advancements in the prevention of pandemics and public health consequences,” Lugar said.

    Lugar said plans for the facility began in 2005 when he and then Senator Barack Obama entered a partnership with Ukrainian officials. Lugar and Obama also helped coordinate efforts between the U.S and Ukrainian researchers that year in an effort to study and help prevent avian flu.

    • Thanks: bispora
    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
  48. Tucker Carlson devoted his top-rated show on cable to the same issue, emphasizing the shame of having to quote official Russian and Chinese government propagandists on the matter because our own American government officials had been lying.

    If Tucker Carlson really feels “ashamed” quoting the “enemies” even when he knows they are telling the truth, then he’s not entirely an objective and unbiased reporter, but will not hesitate to ignore the truth if it does not serve his agenda. Besides, he’s not so naive as not to know ALL governments LIE all the times — and his own government is the biggest liar of all in history.

    • Disagree: Petermx
    • Replies: @Liosnagcat
    , @Curle
  49. Rahan says:

    I’m thinking about the Kazakhstan unrest a few months back, and then the CSTO Collective Security Treaty Organization swooping in, mainly Russians, Belarusians, and Armenians, and quickly reining it all in.

    Could this whole operation have included under the surface a forceful defusing/taking over of the US biolabs there?

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  50. erzberger says:
    @Lionheart

    I think there exists the clear and present danger that the “nads”, Azov and co, who run around screaming “Ukraine or death”, armed to the teeth, may get hold of some of this stuff and release it, Samson option style, and the Russians will be blamed for it. Hence Nuland’s “confession” and preemptive strike against the truth, i.e. “the Russians always blame others for their crimes”

    I read somewhere that Russian soldiers are destroying and looting stores in Ukraine. However, I heard from Ukrainians in Ukraine (private conversation) that the perpetrators were criminals , many of them very dangerous types, who have all been released from prison to join the resistance

    • Agree: Ukraine Tiger
  51. @Carroll price

    It’s a guideline of doing propaganda that there has to be some credible fact in there. It’s the spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down.

    This is the best story I have seen:

    https://sputniknews.com/20220309/moscow-us-funded-biolabs-in-ukraine-engaged-in-development-of-biological-weapons-1093711916.html

    Moscow: US-funded Biolabs in Ukraine Engaged in Development of Components for Biological Weapons; Sputnik; Ilya Tsukanov

    They have documents shown. Not in English. You would have to be one of the top counterfeit detectors in the world to evaluate the claim and even then you wouldn’t be 100%.

    anthrax, the plague, tularemia, cholera

    + bat fleas + some claim of targeted @ Slavic DNA.

    The best evidence to me is the American scumbags seem like exactly the type to do this. : (

    • Thanks: Miro23, Sarah
    • Replies: @Sarah
  52. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    …as his henchmen affirmed, “to fulfill the promise of WWII: to establish a New World Order.”

    Are you claiming that’s a quote from this talk? (If so, cite time stamp, please.) Or is that your interpretation of Jeffrey Engel’s premise?

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?310832-1/into-desert-reflections-gulf-war

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  53. The story is getting more serious.

    Exclusive-WHO Says It Advised Ukraine to Destroy Pathogens in Health Labs to Prevent Disease Spread | World News

    By Reuters
    |
    March 10, 2022

    By Jennifer Rigby and Jonathan Landay

    (Reuters) – The World Health Organization advised Ukraine to destroy high-threat pathogens housed in the country’s public health laboratories to prevent “any potential spills” that would spread disease among the population, the agency told Reuters on Thursday.

    Biosecurity experts say Russia’s movement of troops into Ukraine and bombardment of its cities have raised the risk of an escape of disease-causing pathogens, should any of those facilities be damaged.

    Like many other countries, Ukraine has public health laboratories researching how to mitigate the threats of dangerous diseases affecting both animals and humans including, most recently, COVID-19. Its labs have received support from the United States, the European Union and the WHO.

    In response to questions from Reuters about its work with Ukraine ahead of and during Russia’s invasion, the WHO said in an email that it has collaborated with Ukrainian public health labs for several years to promote security practices that help prevent “accidental or deliberate release of pathogens.”

    “As part of this work, WHO has strongly recommended to the Ministry of Health in Ukraine and other responsible bodies to destroy high-threat pathogens to prevent any potential spills,” the WHO, a United Nations agency, said.

    The WHO would not say when it had made the recommendation nor did it provide specifics about the kinds of pathogens or toxins housed in Ukraine’s laboratories. The agency also did not answer questions about whether its recommendations were followed.

    Ukrainian officials in Kyiv and at their embassy in Washington did not respond to requests for comment.

    Ukraine’s laboratory capabilities are at the center of a growing information war since Russia began moving troops into Ukraine two weeks ago.

    On Wednesday, Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova repeated a longstanding claim that the United States operates a biowarfare lab in Ukraine, an accusation that has been repeatedly denied by Washington and Kyiv.

    Zakharova said that documents unearthed by Russian forces in Ukraine showed “an emergency attempt to erase evidence of military biological programmes” by destroying lab samples.

    Reuters was unable to independently confirm her information.

    In response, a Ukrainian presidential spokesperson said: “Ukraine strictly denies any such allegation.” U.S. government spokespeople also strongly denied Zakharova’s accusations, saying that Russia may use its claims as a pretext to deploy its own chemical or biological weapons.

    The WHO statement made no reference to biowarfare. The agency said it encourages all parties to cooperate in “the safe and secure disposal of any pathogens they come across, and to reach out for technical assistance as needed.” It offered to help wherever possible with technical guidance and coordination.

    The United Nations Security Council will convene on Friday at Russia’s request, diplomats said, to discuss Moscow’s claims, presented without evidence, of U.S. biological activities in Ukraine.

    (Reporting by Jennifer Rigby and Jonathan Landay; Editing by Michele Gershberg and Howard Goller)

    • Thanks: Rahan
    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  54. MarkU says:
    @Realist

    The idea of creating ethnic-specific viruses is utterly insane. Whilst in principle something of the sort might be contrived, there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that it will stay ‘ethnic-specific’. Surely everyone is aware by now that viruses can jump species, jumping ethnicity would be trivial in comparison. Only the criminally insane could support such a programme, even if such a virus could be contrived how would they test it? or would they use it untested?

  55. @anon

    I’m a 20 percenter, being just a mouse, but I only have to scamper around on this keyboard and it seems to make sense, what was written thereby. To me.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  56. Charles says:
    @saggy

    Agreed. Government corruption is nothing new, but as a corollary to your point, the federal government’s stated and active war against the country’s founding peoples is both breathtaking and heartbreaking.

  57. Charles says:
    @Realist

    If I could meet and talk to any living person I would choose either Julian Assange or Ron Unz.

    • Thanks: Realist
  58. https://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/
    She’s been reporting for a few years on these labs around the world, not only Ukraine.
    Glenn Greewald has tweeted some of her information.

    • Thanks: Emil Nikola Richard
  59. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Ironically, had the US found anything like these laboratories in Iraq, it would have triumphantly pointed to them as evidence of Iraqi “weapons of mass destruction” and thus justification for its invasion.

  60. Anyone who claims they are 100% sure of something they have not seen themself is a liar.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  61. this guy has been doing years of investigative reporting on Ukraine, their puppet government, and particularly on the biolabs. read thru several pages of his twitter. it’s eye opening stuff.

  62. Russia did not acknowledge and fully account for either the former Soviet program or the biological weapons activities that it had inherited and continued to engage in. Russia may still continue parts of the Soviet biological weapons program today. As of 2021, the United States Department of State assessed that Russia maintains an offensive biological weapons program and is in violation of its obligation under Articles I and II of the BWC. The issue of compliance by Russia with the BWC has been of concern for many years.

    • Troll: Humbert Humbert
    • Replies: @Poco
  63. Sepp says:

    At this point after 50 years of operations Mockingbird and MKUltra, and with the latest operation to bombard the US populace with war propaganda, anything the Russian Government says is about 10 times more believable than the lies from the CIA, State Department, or that snake Jen Psaki.

    🚨BREAKING – The US Embassy in Tbilisi, Georgia is involved in the trafficking of frozen human blood and pathogens as diplomatic cargo for a secret military program – Russian MOD

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Thanks: Sarah
  64. Two things Ron

    ” I’ve never regarded Neocons as particularly bright, but the game-ending own-goal she scored on an issue of the greatest international importance may have set a new record for total incompetence.”

    That is a great line

    “Ukraine, a country enormously hostile to its nuclear-armed Russian neighbor.”

    Just an element within the country. Most of us are Russians or at least sympathetic towards Russia.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  65. @American Citizen

    Why wait for a low-level night janitor> They have Nuland.

  66. Mr. Anon says:
    @Emslander

    The strongest argument in my book against your thesis is that no “rogue element” in the Trump administration could have engineered and proposed such a far-reaching and violent plan without being exposed ten minutes later by every wannabe “whistleblower” at Fort Detrich. No one involved in the execution of the plan would want to be on the wrong side of it, so they’d quickly be on the phone with their favorite Democrat Congressman or WAPO reporter.

    For the most part, there is no such thing as a “government whistleblower”. There are people in the government who leak things that some forces in the government want them to leak. Alexander Vindman, for example, who provided the bogus justification for impeaching Trump. Not that anyone was really concerned with Trump, who was a poodle of that same “Swamp” that he condemned. The establishment was willing to praise Trump, or at least not damn him, when he did things that the establishment approved of, like bombing Syria. The only reason they attacked him (and this was one thing that Trump was right about) was to attack his supporters. TPTB, not always on the same page, can agree on at least one thing: that any populist movement must be crushed utterly. The hoi-polloi don’t get anything they want, ever.

    • Agree: acementhead, W
  67. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    It ain’t the country or its people, it is an element within the government and to the west.

  68. “Ukraine ranks as one of Europe’s most corrupt states”:
    Ukraine is one of many of the Jewnighted Spades corrupted and hijacked states on the European continent.

    “…the American government to have funded the creation of biowarfare facilities in Ukraine…”:
    The Jewmerican arbitrary on top of the Americas has never funded anything anywhere.
    The JewS probably sent fake dollars to buy real goods and services; funding – re. foundations – is producing goods and services (labouring). Call it funding if they have sent equipment (produced in the JewS), materials (out of America) and Americans doing the labour of building and working the laboratories. That I would call “funding”. Anything else is gangstering, infesting known as “investing” (foreign interests). Giving interests (rates in ground, soil, goods, services, incl. knowhow transfers) to Jewmericans for nothing (but evilness) is “funding” (in the gangster language English).

    “…the strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the global Covid epidemic…”
    “Covid” has per definition been everything (Jewmerican) but an “epidemic”. Covid is an epidemic pharma crime of the self selected ones.

  69. Mr. Anon says:
    @MarkU

    The idea of creating ethnic-specific viruses is utterly insane.

    Advocating that a nuclear power get into a shooting war with another nuclear power is utterly insane. Is there anything about people in the governing / ruling class that suggests they are particularly sane?

    From the dawn of time until the present day, I am becoming persuaded that the best explanation of human history is that most people in power are amoral psychopaths. Essentially like serial killers, but higher functioning.

    • Agree: Kali, Realist
    • Replies: @Larry Romanoff
  70. Alden says:

    Great article, great posts. Thanks Ron and everyone.

    • Agree: Charles
  71. @Anon

    Bingo.

    (And Obimbo of course – off the track and from behind, would his “Michael” say)

  72. IronForge says:

    I hate to say this:

    We’re dealing with Mass Murdering Ethnocidal Psychopaths with a Deluded Raison d’être focused on waging Global Ethnocidal Wars with Ethnic “Less White” than they…

    No Doubt they were ScortchedEarth-ing the Donbass for 8years – having used Human Shields/Hostages/ResidentalSites4Artillery.

    War Crimes are waged with no respect for Geneva Convention or Common Decency.

    They even attacked 2 Nuke Power Plant/Sites – One by causing a Fire and Another by cutting of the power to induce a Meltdown of Spent Matl.

    There’s a Good Chance the Bandera-Maidan-Nazi – who are ingrained into the Govt/Police/NationalGuard/Militia/Mercs may have Stolen/Received Samples+Stockpiles of Pathogens.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if RUS have Thermobarics+TacNukes+FOABs On Standby to Crater+Torch Labs and Maidan-Nazi carrying about with Chem Containers+N/B/C_Suits (I’ve been trained in N/B/C for Shipboard Damage Control Teams; and also set up NBC Protective Gear Mfg Recruitment+WartimeProductionPlanning during Desert Shield+Storm).

    If they have some and use them, they WILL get Torched. They might just save them for Terror Attacks Later.

    Obviously, Nudelman-Khagan is a Dumb JackAss for allowing BioLabs to Operate after letting the Nazi run Kiev…

  73. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Assuming by 20 percenter you mean an IQ of 20, not the richest 20 percent. I have an IQ of 20, like most mice. I’m definitely not one of the top 20 percent in money terms. 😄

    • Replies: @Haruto Rat
  74. Franz says:
    @Harold Smith

    I believe their priority is to corrupt the whole world (i.e. to proselytize the world for their “god,” Satan), and to destroy whatever they can’t corrupt.

    Then they still end up being destroyed. They won’t sustain any god with corruption.

    The Covid lockdowns might have been a misstep. More people are on to the game than ever before.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  75. @Lionheart

    I do not think this Nuland testimony was ‘inadvertent’ or ‘a blunder’, nor even ‘incompetent’. It seems much more like damage limitation. . .

    That’s exactly what I was thinking as I watched the exchange between Rubio and Nuland.

    • Replies: @Poco
    , @Liosnagcat
  76. IronForge says:
    @meamjojo

    FYI-

    This Conflict Zone is part of the Old Khazari Kingdom-Khaganate and the Home of the Khazari-Ashkenazi Jewish-Tribals.

    There probably are more.

  77. @meamjojo

    The jury is still out on how much of this entire thing is staged. I mean, it could all just be part of the setup for the implementation of the Great Reset.

    I want to believe that Putin is legit and his cause is as just as it seems, but his past is not squeaky clean, and he did attend Klaus Schwab’s Young Global Leaders of the WEF course.

    Also, we don’t know how weapon-ready and releasable any of the bio agents were at the time of invasion. Maybe things just happened too quickly for ol’ Zelensky.

    • Agree: W
  78. For Russia to call for a UNSC meeting on the matter, the evidence found must be pretty damning.

  79. Tucker says:
    @anonymous

    “That the hand-picked Ukrainian ‘leaders’ would go along with something like this on their territory shows what a bunch of bought-off whores they are”

    Well, Zelensky and just about every top level politician below him are all jewish. And, to repeat what Jesus Evola so accurately stated: “the Jews hate whites and specifically Christian Whites” so, when one factors in this reality, it becomes much easier to understand why the ‘leaders’ of Ukraine would go along with it.

    I watched the pathetic Rubio questioning of Nuland and I came away with a few assumptions. First, Nuland and her neocon collaborators are in panic mode. They realize that Russians are going to release evidence of what they found was going on in those biological labs and it is going to be unbelievably incriminating. So, Nuland and her pals decided to confess to the existence of these labs, and then try to spin, spin, spin the narrative 180 degrees around – as she did in the interview – and claim that if any deadly pathogens are leaked and causes a pandemic, it will be the Russians fault. She also tried to float the idea that these labs were being 100 % operated by the Ukrainians, insinuating that they were doing this on their own. My second impression was that Rubio was caught by surprise by her confession; I think he expected her to lie and deny the labs existed, and when she admitted the labs existed, Rubio immediately tried to interrupt her and do damage control.

    • Thanks: Sarah, W
  80. @LWashington

    I watched the segment; Carlson’s claim of feeling shame seemed more like rhetorical flourish than a serious expression of shame. That, and he was covering himself in advance against accusations of being a “Putin stooge” for having cited a Russian source.

  81. Dumbo says:

    Why do they need to have those bio-labs in other countries, a top secret facility in Arkansas wouldn’t do?

    Well, I guess being abroad makes them safer from the law and offer more plausible deniability, but still… It’s not as if they don’t do weird experiments on American soil too.

    But I am thinking now if this is perhaps just a hoax or a cover story for the “next pandemic” which will start in Ukraine the next few months — maybe an “ebola varian”, maybe “anthrax variant”‘, or maybe something else. Then of course “it will spread to the world” and more mandatory vaccinations and vaccine passports will be required, ad infinitum, supported even by Unz.

    Welcome to the “free” West.

  82. Sergei Popov PhD, bioweaponeer and researcher in the former CCCP, outlined his secret projects on Youtube, to western Occident nations about “Project Bonfire” and “Project Factor” How their research efforts successfully created new and synthetic life forms-never before seen in nature such as here-to-fore, nameless microbial weapons with high virulence and improved stability These new disease(s) could neither be recognized or diagnosed by the best of physicians.. Popov’s revelations should have terrified us into cancelling idiotic military projects like “killer ticks, and bee’s”, naval warfare using Porpoises This “stuff” has been going on forever….

    As I previously commented at Unz over six months ago, a virologist David Baltimore, former President of CalTech posted his opine to the Bulletin Of Atomic Scientists… I’m paraphrasing him here: I saw the “furin cleavage site” (referring to COVID) in the viral sequence thus, not of natural origin… aka created in a lab and he knew at once that it was a smoking gun revealing the origin of this virus. Further a second renowned expert, a former CDC director Dr. Robert Redfield, said in a widely publicized interview that no other SARS related virus has acquired this furin cleavage site or why the COVID genetic sequence is composed of human preferred codons.

    In any case, lets not be too hasty blaming the DIA and or military bio labs like Ft Detrick. A journalist by the name of Nicholas Wade has over a number of years, published articles in Nature Science and NYT newspaper. He wrote an article showing that there is documented evidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was experimenting with “gain-of-function” research-i.e., experiments that augment the contagiousness however all disease prevention research labs in the west and east do this kind or experimentation for the purposes of finding an adequate vaccine.

    I strongly recommend the reader(s) to unearth an older book for reference. Perhaps now out of circulation? The Ultimate Folly authored by Congressman Richard D. McCarthy and published by Alfred A. Knopf…In, get this,1969. The horrors spelled out in those pages will raise the hair on your head !

    • Replies: @Charles
  83. @TG

    Anyone doing research on making pneumonia multi-drug resistant is either an “intelligent fool” or an outright psychopath. They belong in prison.

  84. Levtraro says:
    @MarkU

    Agree. Such a biological weapon would be the most inefficient weapon ever, with high probability of being catastrophically inefficient.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Badger Down
  85. Petermx says:

    “And governments that do some extremely reckless and foolish things are much more likely to have done other extremely reckless and foolish things, possibly including those that have already had massive adverse consequences, such as a million American deaths over the last two years.”

    The US government has many outspoken, unthinking nitwits that the mainstream media promotes. Tucker showed a clip of one last night that would probably start WW III if her advice was followed. She should be questioned to find out if a more serious person put that nitwit up to what she was saying. I don’t know how Tucker would feel about Ron Unz’s theory but what a show that would be if he invited him on to explain it.

  86. Biassed says:

    Those accused of lying are more than likely not lying per se, but expressing their beliefs of what they believed had happened, assuming a lack of self-awareness. This was obvious from Nuland’s reply to Rubio’s question in the hearings. It seems she was doing was, more or less, reciting agreed upon dogma that informs the Washington beltway collective opinion. But watching Tucker Carlson’s report on the issue re-enforces the interpretation Nuland was reactively reciting, rather than thinking in framing her reply. (AKA group-thinking).

  87. U.N. Security Council to convene on Friday at Russia’s request -diplomats

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-un-idAFKCN2L80B8

    Will there be a vote to condemn the US?

  88. How absolutely fucked up incompetent you have to be to let this happen? Amerimutts are going down the toilet at “warp speed”, LOL

    At this point, the rape gangs and cannibal tribes Anglin thinks will form at the slightest collapse of muttmerica aren’t unrealistic either. Good fucking riddance. Adios, land of the jews!

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  89. dimples says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    I have explained all this to Mr Unz before but the argument seems to be too complicated for him.

    • Replies: @Donald A Thomson
  90. GMC says:
    @American Citizen

    My hunch is that wherever you have GMOs being grown, you will find a batch of Biolabs because Monsanto/Bayer, Cargill, Dupont, and Eli lily always set up Genetic labs to study seeds, pesticides, and now farm animal genetics – automatically. These other BioWeapons Labs can easily be hidden, since the Globalists have everyone paid off. I would assume that is also true with Marine Biology and all their labs around the world.
    Who was in Ukraine for at least a decade – Monsanto, Dupont, Eli Lily, Cargill, Iowa State Agri Dept. and John Deere etc. etc. etc. . And Bechtel was working near Chernobyl as far back as 08 { I ran into them when I was working in UA back then} . So maybe that recent big fire fight over an old dead Chernobyl , in fact was over a HAARP facility. Ukraine and the US is as Dirty as it gets.

    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Athena
  91. Ross23 says:

    It’s all rather obvious.

    The US gets round US law by offshoring it’s dirty work.

    It’s uses the UK spy bases to spy on US citizens then the US spy’s on UK citizens in return and swaps notes.

    Torturing prisoners is illegal in US so they fly them out to other countries to do it there and call it Rendition. Ironically one of those countries was Syria pre 2010.

    They used Saudi Arabia to help Setup ISIS.

    No doubt they wanted to do some bio war experiments they couldn’t do in US so do it aboard including Ukraine.

    Offshoring not just Apple these days.

  92. …Russians took a very dim view of it, certainly contributing to their decision to invade. How would America react if a rabidly-hostile Mexican government backed by China were developing deadly bioweapons near the American border?

    What security level these labs were operating under is not mentioned in this piece.

    Since all the favorite excuses for Russia’s unprovoked war of aggression in Ukraine have been debunked, the quote above highlights desperation in wanting to come out with a new attempt to justify it, at least as a certain contributing factor. The recent public acknowledgement of Ukrainian bio-labs has provided a new variation, attached to a conjectural premise.

    Here are the top dozen deconstructed narratives that I have heard or read thus far, some of which I have only seen promoted at this web site.

    • Baker broke his not-one-inch-east promise to Gorbachev in 1990.
    • Nuland staged-a-coup in Kiev and chose a puppet to take over.
    • NATO’s past expansion poses-an-existential-threat to Russia.
    • Ukraine was invited-to-join-NATO, which is simply unacceptable.
    • Ukrainian army has been committing-a-genocide in Donbas.
    • Ukraine’s leadership-is-pro-Nazi, so the government must be de-nazified.
    • Ukraine has-no-sovereignty because it is historically tied to Russia.
    • What if Russian nuclear missiles-were-placed-in-Mexico near US border?
    • Putin was goaded-into-invading Ukraine and had no other choice.
    • Putin wants to liberate-us-from-LGBT cultural degeneracy.
    • Putin is challenging-Western-financial-dependency under the Jewish yoke.
    • Putin, a 4D-chess-player with a sense of destiny, wants to save the White race.

    Just a few hours ago I learned of another derivative explanation, provided by Scott Ritter, also promoted here: Russia must hunt down and assassinate all Ukrainians who have tattoos of symbols that it disapproves of. We have now arrived at the point of reductio ad absurdum.

    …Israeli TV confirmed that our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a secret report “in the second week of November” describing a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan.

    Since when has an Israeli television report been a reliable source upon which one wants to premise a major hypothesis? Their Channel 12 report in April 2020 did not confirm anything; it simply reported a story, citing unnamed “Israeli military officials“. Purportedly, NATO officials were also informed, but, even now, I know about nobody who has even corroborated that report. As I have written here recently, I had noticed a peculiar run-up of pharmaceutical stock prices just prior to Thanksgiving 2019. A few insiders knew what was emerging then, but they likely learned about it from Anthony Fauci, based upon a lab leak in Wuhan.

    This DIA report now appears to have been written before the first Chinese person had even become infected.

    On what basis this appearance arises we are not told. The Times of Israel, which wrote about the television report on that same day (and updated it the next day) contradicts the unexplained implication quoted above. It wrote, the following, which would be consistent with a lab leak incident in Wuhan:

    Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage — and was known only apparently to the Chinese government.

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    • Troll: DevilAdvocate
    • Replies: @eah
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @W
  93. @TG

    I don’t agree that Russia is using the bio labs thing as their reason for the attack. This is merely a bi-product of what they found. Their reason is at all times NATO. (Oh and … Azov burning 46 Odessa Russians alive back in 2014.)

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  94. Kiza says:

    I feel somewhat sorry for all these “democracy” talking US individuals, such as Ron Unz, Glen Greenwald, even Tucker Carlson. We should do this and we should do that…

    How can these outspoken individuals not recognise that one can be called “a reservoir of disease” just for refusing to get a dangerous jab and then be put under threat of forced jabbing by a large percentage of the psychotically scared population. I estimated before that in most Western countries 40-50% of the population was completely overtaken – dropped into deep psychosis by the broad spectrum (e.g. all-media) Covid scare campaign. If the propaganda can be so powerful to completely sap the brains of such a large proportion of the population and convert them into The Walking Dead then democracy never had a chance. In other words – if one has enough money and enough control over the media, one can get a large proportion of people to damage themselves and to attack any member of their own society who does not conform.

    Therefore, the phrase: the unvaccinated are the reservoirs of disease is they key phrase of the 21st century that explains absolutely everything one needs to know. This power of manipulation will be used tomorrow against anyone talking against the interests of the manipulators. The manipulators are those who produce and use WMDs all the while propagandising and projecting this onto their mark.

    Also, reviewing the biological WMDs in isolation from the nexus of WMD release and the “vaccines” for them is a pointless exercise.

    Listening to Ron Unz and his interviewer here is like listening to the lyrics of the John Lennon’s song Imagine. Would it not be great if the impossible happened and our opinions mattered.

  95. WELL THIS WEB PAGE LOOKS INTERESTING. SEEM TO CONFIRM BIO PATHOGEN LABS IN UKRAINE:

    1) THERE ARE MULTIPLE BIO LABS IN UKRAINE:
    This document below uses “facilities”—plural, over and over.

    2) THEY CONTAIN “DANGEROUS PATHOGENS”
    Quote: “Poor security could allow terrorists access to pathogens”

    3) FUNDING CAME FROM THE PENTAGON:
    Quote: “DTRA will determine what sites receive assistance, additional funds may be appropriated. Funds also will be available to scientists.”

    4) THE SOVIET LABS WERE “ANTI-PLAGUE”
    Quote: “Facilities in Ukraine are Soviet-era anti-plague network.”

    https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2005-10/threat-reduction-program-extends-reach-ukrainian-biological-facilities

  96. Mevashir says:

    https://www.aol.com/companies-still-doing-business-russia-204129691.html
    A corporate exodus from Russia in response to its military invasion of Ukraine has seen more than 300 U.S. and multinational companies sever business ties with…

    I can’t fathom why the Russians want American companies like McDonald’s and Marriott operating in their country. I thought Russians pride themselves on their healthy diet? Why would they want to eat crappy McDonald’s food? Can’t Russians create their own hotel companies? Honestly, it’s a total disconnect. We’re told constantly that Putin is this brutal oppressor, but it turns out that hundreds of American corporations are operating over there. The whole narrative makes zero sense!

    https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/03/07/yales-sonnenfeld-makes-the-case-for-companies-ceasing-operations-in-russia.html
    This person mentioned in the article is the head of the Yale Business School. He was my freshman advisor when I was at Harvard so long ago. I disagree with his comment about South Africa. When I was at Harvard they were pushing a huge divestment campaign against the South African government. The same Jewish elites who helped to destroy South Africa fight tooth and nail against divestment of Israel. The divestiture pressures on South Africa destroyed the most prosperous country in Africa and helped to turn it into a crime ridden corrupt basketcase of today. If this is their goal with Russia, then I fully support Putin’s efforts to stop them.

    As far as business school elites go, the purpose of McDonald’s and similar companies is to enrich the investors and owner class, certainly not to benefit the consumers of their toxic garbage products. I once saw an interview where Putin said that Russia opposes GMO agriculture and prioritizes organic produce. If that is true, then companies like McDonald’s Kentucky Fried Chicken etc should have no place in Matushka Rossiya.

    Apparently one of the big Russian concerns about Ukraine is that the Americans were pushing Monsanto GMO Terminator seeds on the Ukrainians, along with dangerous fracking technology, as well as the rumored biowarfare research laboratories that dot the country.

    But count on the American Jewish Neocon apologists to bury all of this important information in an avalanche of anti-Russian neoliberal propaganda that conceals their true agenda, which is self-enrichment at the expense of the masses.

  97. Karl1906 says:

    Nuland is truly despicable. There’s not an ounce of honesty or decency in this one. One of those rare moments where you really wish there is a hell waiting for those people. And not just the hell these people make for all of us here.

  98. Is there no end to the insanity,
    and no respite for Humanity?
    Are they really working for life to end,
    do they own the world as they pretend?

  99. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:

    A bit like asking “where’s Waldo?” but I do wonder where Betsy’s brother Erik Prince is now.

    https://time.com/6076035/erik-prince-ukraine-private-army/

  100. @Harold Smith

    As I see it, the exit from the INF treaty, the covid plandemic, the illegal military adventure in Syria and the trade war against China…

    One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn’t belong…

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  101. @MEH 0910

    So, why were there still active Soviet-era labs in Ukraine in 2005? Why were there still active Soviet-era labs in 2022, seventeen years after the alleged coöperation agreement to dismantle them? We didn’t drag our feet more than a couple years on dismantling the nukes in Ukraine after the dissolution of the USSR; why would we drag our feet more than several decades on bioweapons?

    Jennifer Griffen is well known to be an Intel Community shill. If she’s spouting it, it is surely disinformation.

  102. How long will it be before exactly the same kind of evil filth behind these labs launch a false-flag chemical weapons attack in order to further demonise Putin and the Russian people?

    This, of course, is what they did to Assad and Syria. But this time there will be no Robert Fisk to expose the sham.

    This will, likely, be a real chemical deployment this time, either on the benighted ethnic Russians of the Donbass so they can claim it as a ‘Russian false flag’ or, more likely, a gassing of Ukrainian victims, thus making US/NATO involvement ‘exigent’ and ‘unavoidable’.

    ‘We can’t just stand back and allow these sort of atrocities to be commited unpunished – Putin is another Hitler‘.

    If it happens to take place near a children’s hospital, school or kindergarten, all the better. Or, perhaps better yet, near a synagogue or Holocaust shrine.

    The Scum have basically already telegraphed what they are going to to in advance.

    From MI6 in-house publication The Guardian:

    Johnson and the foreign secretary, Liz Truss, have raised fears of the use of chemical weapons by Russian forces, while the White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, said the world should be “on the lookout” for the Russian use of chemical and biological weaponry.

    ‘Johnson said on Thursday: “The stuff which you are hearing about chemical weapons is straight out of the Russian playbook. They start saying that there are chemical weapons that are being stored by their opponents or by the Americans, so that when they themselves deploy chemical weapons – as I fear they may – they have a sort of a maskirovka, a fake story, ready to go.”’

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/mar/11/uk-minister-warns-russia-against-using-chemical-weapons-in-ukraine

    • Thanks: Kali
  103. Clyde says:

    Victoria Nuland is a character out of a comic book. She must have been very cute 30 years ago at Swarthmore or Smith or what have you.. Thanks Ron for the latest bio-warfare round ups but no mention of that patented Moderna strand DNA found in Covid

    • Agree: col from OZ
  104. Curle says:
    @LWashington

    “If Tucker Carlson really feels “ashamed” quoting the “enemies” . . . “

    A huge % of Fox viewers are NormieCons. These are decent people but they are extraordinarily naive and cannot formulate explanations for incongruous events without relying on simplistic good/evil heuristics. They have to be eased into reality.

  105. @Lionheart

    Clearly, “in the last munite question”, it was the lest worse option they thought they had available for damage control.

  106. ” I’ve never regarded Neocons as particularly bright, but the game-ending own-goal she scored on an issue of the greatest international importance may have set a new record for total incompetence.”

    WWWAAAAIIIITTTT just a minute Mr. Unz! How do you KNOW it was an ‘own goal’ and why are you asserting it, a couple of times, with no evidence and without thinking of, shall I say, the OBVIOUS?

    The obvious, as the exchange shows, is that rather than an ‘own goal’ deep state operative Nuland is setting the stage for a bio weapons attack that will immediately be blamed on Russia, because after all THEY have the evil bio weapons stuff now.

    It’s odd to me you did not even consider this aspect of Nuland’s ‘admission’. Maybe she, or rather her deep state script writers, are not as stupid as you think.

    • Agree: Mevashir
  107. Sarah says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    + bat fleas + some claim of targeted @ Slavic DNA.

    Demonic👺

  108. @Lionheart

    Exactly, and maybe worse, maybe it’s to prepare the ground for a USA false flag event, whose premise is that Russia used the bio warfare material they found in Ukraine.

    We should all keep in mind that Mr. Unz for some reason repeatedly called this a ‘mistake’ on Nuland’s part, never considering the possibility that it was a scripted statement. Why did Mr. Unz do this?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Alden
    , @acementhead
  109. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anita Patel

  110. @Wielgus

    If you do a little digging you will find that every bullet in the bodies of the murdered Maya are Galil rifle bullets. The CIA,et.al., works for Israel.The Guatemalan court system show trials cover up for them as well.

    https://www.panoramas.pitt.edu/news-and-politics/israels-close-relationship-guatemala-has-roots-countrys-civil-war-0

    Israel’s close relationship with Guatemala has roots in …
    Jan 8, 2018 — Israel’s close relationship with Guatemala has roots in country’s civil war … to bullet fragments from firearms and pods of Galil rifles,

  111. Antabus says:

    The Saker has article about released 5 documentsabout Ukraine preparing attack on Donbass where he stated (my words not copy paste): “I highly doubt that Russians would release documents which can be proven to be fake next day.”

    Those biolabs are in focus of Bulgarian journalist.

    For long time i am saying that for Russians is EZ to make propaganda. Just telling the truth. This why mr Poutine can have press conference marathons without questions send ahead. If one do not lie then can speak freely and say the same thing all the time asked.

    This contradicts american tradition. 1 unauthorized question and irish journalist was out of White Home =) (I read it somewhere White home instead house. LOL)

    • Disagree: GomezAdddams
  112. @Spender_CGB

    She said it because Luciferians have an agreement with God requiring them to notify God’s children of the bad shit they are doing.

    If men choose to let evil happen, it has the effect of diminishing God’s glory, since the big pre-mortal issue had to do with whether men on earth would conduct their lives with or without free agency. God and Christ said, let them choose. Lucifer said, let me save them the trouble.

    Disclosures of this kind are rarely cryptic or unintentional; instead the notifications usually have a brash, matter-of-fact flavor, to the extent that they sometimes appear to be the result of a slip-up, mistake, or accidental confession. Which they are not. It’s part of how devils ply their trade.

  113. neprof says:
    @Realist

    Are you suggesting that US govt officials believe in HBD theory? Now they’ve done it!

    • Replies: @Realist
  114. @Spender_CGB

    Nudelman looks worse all the time. She’s regressing to the rather unattractive mean of her kin.

  115. Jamesc says:
    @Spender_CGB

    Yes, it was a limited admission and a redirection. She did seem very uncomfortable, though.

  116. MGB says:
    @Wielgus

    I don’t think Nuland’s disclosure was inadvertent as Unz and Carlson characterize it. Rubio was right there with the follow up, the ‘100%’ certainty that if any bio attack occurs in Ukraine it’s the Russians who done it, and no doubt they’ll blame it on us, cause that’s what they do, not us. (I have not heard a single interview of Nuland where it didn’t appear she was given the questions in advance, and was reading from a script in response.)

    • Agree: R2b
  117. Kali says:

    Dear Ron,

    I’m pleased to see this announcement today because yesrerday I happened to finish watching the third hearing of Reiner Fuellmich, et al’s, “grand jury” investigation, which greatly supports your biowarefare hypothisis.

    Sadly the videos themselves are not particularly well presented or formated. They each run at around 5 hours or more, making them somewhat inaccessable (though I dare say somewhat easier for those of you with fiber-optic broadband).

    [MORE]

    That said, the evidence presented by at least two of the expert witnesses (the third, a virologist and medical doctor from Austria, and the fifth, if I recall correctly, a geneticist and medical doctor from South Africa) from day 3 of the hearings led me to understand without much reservation that, yes, there is indeed a pathogen -a virus if you will, though it doesn’t (according to these experts) behave/evolve in the way of any natural virus either of them have worked with or studied before.

    Unfortunately the lawyers involved didn’t focus on the important evidence that the virus may have been created in a lab, though certainly that is what the Dr from Austria was directly indicating! The gentleman from South Africa also, though his main focus and concern was on effective treatments. – A very intetesting witness, regardless, by anyones standards.

    I really do think it may be worth your while to speak to each of these expert witnesses. (Their names appear on the screne as one watches, but without my spec’s on I was unable to make them out. – I watch such things together with my husband as we eat our evening meal, which is not condusive to taking notes.)

    [One of the things I intend to do today is drop an email to the legal team suggesting that they make the increadibly important witness testimony they are pressenting much more accessable to the public. If this information could be widely deceminated, the whole game may change!]

    In the meantime, I would urge you to take a look at the evidence from day 3, which pertains to the virus itself and the PCR tests. The information there-in supports and strengthens your own hypothisis regarding the origins of sars-cov2.

    Unsurprisingly, and this is not meant as a rebuke, all of the rest of the evidence given that I have seen so far completely debunks the propaganda regarding ‘cases’ and ‘covid deaths’.

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Kali
  118. @Rahan

    I wouldn’t be surprised that the Kazakh “lab” pointed towards the others scattered across Ukraine and that it helped spur the Russians into taking immediate action. There is also a lab in Georgia that had some very mysterious outbreaks around it years ago.

  119. > How would America react if a rabidly-hostile Mexican government backed
    > by China were developing deadly bioweapons near the American border?

    Obviously, America’s intelligence services would want their cut of the action. Because it’s already happening – just not by China.

    One thing I’ve never seen speculation on is this: all sorts of weapons are available in Mexico and Latin America. A Mexican drug cartel defeated the Mexican Army just a short few years ago. How is it that millions of people a year, and container ships full of fentanyl and cocaine, cross over that border into the U.S. completely undetected – but in all those years, never a single hand grenade, shoulder-mounted rocket launcher, or any other small arms has ever made it across that same border and been used in the U.S.? With all of the enemies America has in the world, a dirty bomb or chemical agent or biological pathogen never traveled with the river of narcotics and illegals flowing North?

    It’s not like the cartels are having high-level meetings and deciding “Hey guys, hanging U.S. agents from bridges and leaving the heads of dozens of people in the street is one thing, but gaining an edge against a rival cartel in the states using the enormous variety of weapons available to us and easy to get to them? That’s a bridge too far…“. The obvious reason that’s never happened is because the U.S. is in complete control of the narcotics and human trafficking trade across its southern border.

    I think Hollywood occasionally tells some truth – fleshing out interesting scripts that have new twists or angles is hard. So even though I don’t think local police agencies are corrupt, Hollywood’s penchant for corrupt cop / cops that cut corners in the 90s and 00s were based on real things happening. The past decade the role of the CIA in cross-border narcotics trade has been a theme in several TV series and movies. One example is Mayans MC. After Biden was elected, the show was obviously told to end the conspiracy angle involving the CIA. If you watch it, over the course of about two episodes the story of a conspiracy involving the CIA and Mexican drug lords is just thrown away – the agent revealed to be rogue (the CIA would never do such a thing), for reasons that are farcical (in an otherwise really well-written and deep show), etc.

  120. I faintly remember an American defence contractor advertising for Russian genetic material; he offered to pay handsomely.

    I also remember a ring was unearthed in Russia who were dealing with hospital waste (genetic material) in a casual way; it appeared mere carelessness on the part of the hospitals and the collection gang, but which had the potential of collecting the DNA from the hospital waste.

    Both happened about three years ago.

    https://off-guardian.org/2017/11/03/why-is-the-us-air-force-collecting-samples-of-russian-dna/

    • Thanks: Kali
  121. RINO Rubio and Cookies Nuland gave everything away. The big “tell” is Cookies’ blurting out about how they were working to make sure the Russkies didn’t get their snow covered mitts on any of this “research” material. Really? We aren’t talking about a cure for cancer here you know! Whatever the US military invests in it sure as shit isn’t about making life better for you or me but for more efficiently ending said life. They’re in the business of doling out death whenever they feel like it. That’s who and what they are.

  122. lydia says:
    @Exalted Cyclops

    Vax liberation script may be in the works

    A playcard from Steve Jackson’s 1995 Illuminati card game.

    [MORE]

    By Timothy Fitzpatrick
    Oct. 25, 2021 Anno Domini

    There are increasing signs that the Synagogue of Satan might eventually flip the script on their scamdemic psyop.

    Imagine a total reversal of the nearly two-year-long, media-fueled campaign of lies, fear mongering, and murder—all abetted by a 100 per cent-compliant government. We could see it happen as early as next year, after the children—the seeming last target demographic—have been lethally injected.

    The deceptive and key element of this potential dialectic would involve who gets blamed for this nightmare. Using our ongoing geopolitical analysis comprised of the Bible, testimony of Soviet defectors like Anatoliy Golitsyn (The Perestroika Deception), and admissions from the Judeo-Bolsheviks themselves (like in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and Chabad Lubavitch), we can safely conclude that the blame for this scamdemic likely would be placed on the Western order, as a prerequisite for an Eastern liberation psyop, much like the Soviets used as a pretext to liberating (invading) Eastern Europe from the Nazis and replacing it with Communism.

    The Eastern NWO would conquer the Western NWO and install a world government headquartered somewhere in the East (perhaps in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Moscow, or Astana) after revealing to the world that Western leaders knowingly orchestrated a campaign of genocide using the Kovid clot shot and the associated measures (lockdowns, masks, testing). They might even claim that the West engineered the “virus” as a pretext for the clotshot campaign, furthering indignation among the people. In order to rebuild a new world order, you must tear down the old world order.

  123. lysias says:

    I knew about these U.S. biolabs in Ukraine because they are discussed in Kees van der Pijl, States of Emergency (published Jan. 1, 2022). Van der Pijl bases his discussion on U.S. government documents then publicly available.

  124. Mevashir says:
    @hardlooker

    https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Die-Reflections-Chapter/dp/0679742441
    https://medicine.yale.edu/news/yale-medicine-magazine/article/in-lost-in-america-a-yale-surgeon-opens/
    https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-xpm-2014-mar-09-la-me-sherwin-nuland-20140309-story.html

    This is Nudelman’s father, who was a prominent surgeon at Yale. He struggled with lifelong suicidal depression. Maybe his daughter will follow in his footsteps.

    On the on the other hand, it might be better if the Russians capture her and send her to their version of Abu Ghraib and subject her to some renditional information extraction techniques and get her to cough up the truth.

    But I pity the agents who would have to torture this cow!

  125. Mevashir says:
    @WingsofADove

    Why ever he did it, it certainly wasn’t a mistake on his part!

  126. Jaded says:
    @Miro23

    She’s clearly carb addicted. Causes brain fog.

  127. @American Citizen

    The 2004 book by Michael Carroll “Lab 257” offers some response. A mixture of incompetence and stupidity possibly mixed with evil intent (the director was an Operation Paperclip recruit without offspring) released Lyme Disease and West Nile Virus and others that vector back to Plum Island. Maybe it was the night janitor.

    • Replies: @lydia
  128. I think it might be noteworthy that the reliable CIA mouthpiece the Huffington Post has an article online that describes questioning official narratives in social media as a sort of mental/emotional illness the author calls “main character syndrome.” People claim to know better than the authorities in order to draw attention to themselves as lead characters in a fictionalized version of their lives, so runs the theory.

    Wow! This appears to be a sophistication of the post WW2 work of Theodor Adorno and his associates at UC Berkeley. They devised what they claimed was a psychological test for identifying “fascists,” the liberal bogeyman at the time. Published in 1950 as “The Authoritarian Personality,” their work has been largely discredited by mental health professionals, but it effectively serves to this day as a scientific gloss to the propaganda construct that fascism was a psychopathy, a personality disorder independent of historical circumstances or political content.

    Earlier, southern doctors diagnosed a mental disorder unique to African slaves, which they termed “drapetomania.” This dread scourge infected its unfortunate victims with an inexplicable desire to run away from their kind and loving masters.

    Pseudoscience prostituted to serve an unjust status quo is not new, but the level to which it is employed in the ongoing, unprecedented attack on our freedoms is chilling; and largely because it is so effective. The strongest cage really is the invisible one that prisoners can be tricked into constructing themselves, sincerely believing it was their own good idea and that living in it constitutes the best of all possible worlds.

  129. Publius 2 says:

    Note the timeline:

    Trump descends the elevator in 2015. Immediately there is MSM hysteria and all 12 Republican primary candidates were massively promoted by the MSM (they tried at one point to push every one of them—anyone but Trump) in the face of the obvious fact the people wanted Trump, who was an avatar to send a message to the (((establishment))) and a cry for help from oppressed white people for a kind king to be on their side against the (((landlords))). (See also Ron Paul, who won in 2008). Trump’s nonnormie base called him God Emperor.

    Trump wins in 2016. Massive hysteria from MSM and (((Europe))). MSM rolls out “Russian collusion” literally the day after the 2016 election.

    Four years of deep state treachery, primarily concerned with monitoring trump’s phone calls with Putin and Ukraine. Jews’ biggest fear is trump and Putin uniting Christians in a self defense effort, as Hitler tried to do.

    Trump impeached for complete bullshit.

    2020 Covid (((hoax))) just happens to be an election year, right, Jews? Trump voters forced to wear a mask all of 2020 while niggers were allowed and encouraged to riot, all as humiliation ritual to humiliate white people.

    Trump impeached again for exposing what Biden Inc was doing in Ukraine. Phone call was perfect.

    Hunter Biden laptop is obvious and MSM can’t hide it.

    2020 election is stolen after trump obviously had massive support everywhere and dementia Biden drew an average of 8 vehicles to his parking lot “rallies”.

    Jan 6 setup by (((FBI))). Normie trump voters railroaded. Now being tortured by niggers in gulag.

    Biden cabinet is 98% Jewish including of course state and attorney general. War on whites announced.

    Forced masking and vaccines is attack on humanity.

    Now…. Russia is invading Ukraine to expose the deep state Covid biolab hoax and , hopefully, wake up the masses once and for all

    Gas will go to \$7/gallon

    Will be major depression

    What next?

    What percentage of people read this website every day? It should be 100% of adults, but sadly it’s much less. We are surrounded by Normies, especially millennials suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

    I’ve tried to show this website to many normie NPCs. They won’t even read it even though it’s published by a Jew. White leftists keep themselves ignorant on purpose. Ficking vaginas in the male leftists.

  130. SafeNow says:

    The seversl references to “serpent” and “snake” in the comments brought to mind Emily Dickinson’s “Narrow Fellow in the grass” aka “The Snake.” The ending is below. As some French writer said: Always be drunk…on wine, poetry, or virtue.

    But never met this Fellow
    Attended or alone
    Without a tighter Breathing
    And Zero at the Bone.

  131. gotmituns says:

    Here’s another small question I have about the Biolabs in Ukraine? What are they doing there so close to Russia? Why couldn’t a place be founds somewhat further away from the Russian border for this secret experiments? Let’s say Paraguay (not that I have anything against Paraguay), but it seems it’s geographically further away from Russia and might possibly be in less danger of falling into Russian hands. To anyone who may be offended by basic logic – my apologies.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  132. I was unaware of this woman until I heard her uptalking at a hearing. Looked her up and see that she has a degree in Russian literature. Has she ever even pooped in the woods? The HR department has taken over the corporation.

  133. Alden says:
    @WingsofADove

    Mr Unz wrote Nuland made a mistake because he did the research, thought about what he learned, came to some conclusions and wrote the article. That’s why.

  134. @TG

    No need to be critical.
    The one before the one eleven years ago:
    http://socialismtoday.org/archive/43/nucleardisaster.html

  135. That face reveals so much about her.

  136. Anonymous[881] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mevashir

    . . . purpose of McDonald’s and similar companies is to enrich the investors and owner class, certainly not to benefit the consumers of their toxic garbage products.

    Years ago I asked the owner of several MacDonalds in a large city how the new McRibs product was, and he answered, “How would I know, I never eat that shit myself.” There’s also the matter of the products in, at least, America’s fast food restaurants being contaminated with human feces. A quick look at the fingernails of the employees behind the counter should dissuade the hungriest of people to not eat at one of these joints passing off toxic industrial products laced with sugar as a simulacrum of food.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  137. Athena says:

    (Google, YouTube et al didn’t really like this one):

    Episode 111 – A Brief History of Biowarfare

    https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-111-a-brief-history-of-biowarfare/

    12/06/2009

    Documentation – Airplanes sprayed mysterious substance over Ukraine days before pneumonic plague outbreak

    Description: Authorities in the town of Kiev, Ukraine denied any spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over the city. This after it was reported that light aircrafts were seen flying over the forest market area that sprayed a aerosol substance to fight

    Documentation – WHO says swine flu samples from Ukraine showed no significant mutation

    Description: The World Health Organization says tests on swine flu samples from Ukraine show no significant mutation of the virus.

    Documentation – In Ukraine, H1N1 pandemic sets off panic and politicking

    Description: …Confidence in even the WHO was shaken last year after the death of a teenager who had received a measles shot during one of the organization’s immunization drives. The WHO said he died of meningitis, but the opposition blamed the vaccine. Some Ukr

    Documentation – H1N1 “super flu” plague in Ukraine sparks concern, conspiracy theories about origins

    Documentation – Top Secrets Revealed

    Description: A two-part British documentary from 2004 examining the biological agents that had been released on an unwitting British public by their own government over the decades.

    Documentation – Governments and Biowarfare: A Brief History

    Description: An extensive overview of governments using biological warfare agents against their own citizens.

  138. And governments that do some extremely reckless and foolish things are much more likely to have done other extremely reckless and foolish things, possibly including those that have already had massive adverse consequences, such as a million American deaths over the last two years.

    Is author Ron Unz referring here to the adverse consequences of what CDC, WHO, the Western governments and their legacy media have loudly proclaimed to be a “pandemic” from some mysterious novel chimeric virus that looks a lot like seasonal flu? Or is he now acknowledging the vastly understated and seldom reported VAERS statistics on the adverse consequences of shoddy and hastily tested experimental mRNA concoctions foisted on misinformed Americans by their own government?

    There’s a crucial and very relevant difference here, even if we still have to guess the source for his two-year tally on the “million American deaths”.

    • Agree: Kali
  139. Mathew Ehret, trained by the LaRouche organizations, has been doing exemplary analysis of this crisis and thus a recent discussion of this topic is of order:

    https://rumble.com/vx2ydv-the-great-game-with-matt-and-v-biolabs-and-cognitive-warfare.html

  140. Ron Unz, a brave, intelligent man; Victoria Nuland, a dishonest, vindictive woman … the Jewish dichotomy.

  141. Dumbo says:

    Why is that fat ugly bitch occupying any position in the U.S. Government, instead of in the kitchen baking cookies??!? (Or even better, in an insane asylum?)

  142. A country ran by Jews is corrupt….and water is wet.

  143. MLK says:

    So allocating a few millions or even tens of millions to labs in Ukraine would hardly be implausible.

    As odd as it sounds, my interest is solely in the word I bolded — “implausible.” Bear with me for a moment.

    As I’ve noted previously, it’s worth observing that events over the last years have conspired to retire the reaction “Unbelievable!” This phenomenon is affirmatively expressed as “Gee, look at how quickly conspiracy theory became conspiracy fact.”

    In other words, given what’s come over the transom, what these days can we safely say is implausible?

    I agree with the commenter who said something along the lines of ‘We’ll never know the true story . . .” That’s a feature of grand conspiracies evident immediately during their overt phase. Planning is a function of resources and what makes conspiracies grand is effectively unlimited resources, along with the objective(s).

    That’s why whenever these phenomena are indisputably in motion, whomever the moving party may appear to be, the floodgates open on explanatory narratives fingering one dirty or another.

    It’s not a puzzle that can be solved.

    The best we can do is fight against bias confirmation and apply common sense.

    With the above in mind, let’s consider this:

    The evidence I have accumulated seems rather massive and the only argument anyone has ever effectively raised on the other side is that even rogue elements of the Trump Administration could not possibly have done anything so reckless and foolish. I think that argument seems far weaker today than it did a week ago.

    Think about it, how is ” . . . the only argument anyone has ever effectively raised . . .” any different than all the other plaintive shouting, official and otherwise, about what’s been “thoroughly and repeatedly debunked.”

    I seem to be the only one who remembers that, despite three years of best efforts to destroy Trump’s presidency, in the Fall of 2019, Trump was on track to win reelection in a landslide under the dastardly plan of Peace and Prosperity. If you didn’t notice that team “Trump Must Go!” — anyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic — went to by any means necessary there’s something wrong with you.

    That’s the shortest predicate for returning to Iran. Let’s just say the Iranian regime had every reason to want Trump gone. After months earlier repeatedly trying and failing to bait him, violent protestors inexplicably made it into the highly secure Green Zone and tried to seize the Embassy. Yes, I know, Fake News said at the time they were mostly peaceful and it was just some annex that caught fire . . . Strangely, the (not so) Supreme Leader chose this very moment to tweet to Trump Khomeini’s taunt to Carter after the US Embassy in Teheran was seized: “. . . and you can’t do a damn thing about it . . .” Even more strangely, Democrat Senator Murphy tweeted out the same thing right afterward.

    Of course, all of you know the rest because that fits the anti-Trump narratives. Whereas the earlier part not to much.

    Suffice it to say, Soleimani was selected to take one for the team. Or did you buy Khatami’s weeping and wailing at the funeral.

    Shortly thereafter, early in the Wuhan Virus kickoff, Iranian regime oldsters started dropping dead in Qom. A not so subtle message from team “Trump Must Go!” to Iran to shake it off and not to muck up Plan B.

    The only thing truly implausible is that Trump had any hand in any of these malefactions. Answering qui bono in the negative for him is a no-brainer. The same cannot be said for anyone else, including who this author playfully refers to “rogue elements” within the USG and, I am sorry to inform, CCP China.

    Grand conspiracies are coalitions of the willing and unwilling. A status for members that is, shall we say, fluid depending on how things are going.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  144. Kali says:
    @for-the-record

    since in Portugal where I live…

    Ah, me too! 🙂

    Should you find yourself in central Portugal and fancy a cuppa and a chat, find the highest village in Serra da Gardunha (duckduckgo knows) and ask for Kali (from England). – If nothing else you’ll be treated to what our friend, Pascal, calles “the billion dollar view”.

    (I did glance through your comment history before typing this invite. We agree on enough important issues to make for an enjoyable meeting I reckon.)

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  145. Dumbo says:
    @Mevashir

    Most people in the West have become worse than spoiled children, so they like greasy, sugary, chemically-laced food with high fructose corn syrup from genetically modified plants and animals and lots of additives on top.

    There’s a video on how McD’s “chicken nuggets” are made, but I don’t recommend it.

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  146. Kali says:
    @Realist

    Putin complained, in 2017, that America was collecting bio information on different Russian groups. To me, this suggests that the U.S. was trying to develop biological weapons that were ethnic-specific in an effort to prevent the blowback situation you described with Covid.

    One of the witnesses in the covid “Grand Jury” hearings, a geneticist and medical practitioner from South Africa (who’s name I did not catch, I’m sorry to say) reported that the three “waves” of covid affected three distinct racial groups: wave 1 affected blacks, wave 2 Indians and wave 3 whites.

    You can hear his evidence from day 3 of the hearings, within the last two hours of that particular 5 hour offering. [Aproximate timings].

    https://www.grand-jury.net

    Fond regards,
    Kali.

    • Thanks: Realist
    • Replies: @Realist
  147. Gapeseed says:
    @TG

    My understanding is that biowarfare labs are located near major cities because the specialized labor pool to staff these facilities is otherwise far too small.

  148. Mevashir says:
    @Dumbo

    But why would Russia open itself up to such garbage? This is what puzzles me.

  149. Victoria Nuland’s testimony sold me on Mr. Unz’s theory on Covid 19. Remarkably after seeing a clip of her “concerns”, the first thing I thought of was Unz Covid Bioweapon Theory. Took me a way to get here. Ukraine is a nice central location too.

    • LOL: Emslander
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  150. HT says:

    Rogue Jews like Nuland involved in USA bio-weapons programs abroad but tomorrow they will cry a river about the “Holocaust” when cornered.

  151. Realist says:
    @neprof

    Are you suggesting that US govt officials believe in HBD theory?

    Yes, the serious ones do.

  152. Mevashir says:
    @Anonymous

    Some people call fast food “food-like substances”.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  153. Emslander says:
    @Ulf Thorsen

    Anyone who gets their information from the MSM, TV or newspaper, is going to be seriously misdirected. I used to be close to things that got covered in the big time MSM and they were NEVER reported without some intentional slant or skim. They were often fully distorted and turned backwards.

    The journalists are either entertainers, propagandists or marketing tools.

    At a breakfast with a bunch of doddering old fools like myself yesterday and I almost had a hernia trying to keep from asking them why they want to believe any of the crap they think they know. I thought of my own delusions over the years and refrained.

  154. Realist says:
    @MarkU

    The idea of creating ethnic-specific viruses is utterly insane. Whilst in principle something of the sort might be contrived, there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that it will stay ‘ethnic-specific’. Surely everyone is aware by now that viruses can jump species, jumping ethnicity would be trivial in comparison.

    I understand your point. But you are talking about viruses that are natural…not engineered. I am convinced that Covid 19 was designed and constructed. Perhaps somewhat less than desired but, nonetheless humanly designed. With more experimental study the ability to design a virus to attack humans carrying unique genome types may be possible.

    Only the criminally insane could support such a programme, even if such a virus could be contrived how would they test it? or would they use it untested?

    But of course, I totally agree. The criminally insane is a great description of many who infest our current power structure. If a group is willing to devise such a weapon…testing on living humans is child play.

    • Replies: @Charles
  155. @Franz

    Then they still end up being destroyed.

    Well of course; that’s the whole idea.

    They won’t sustain any god with corruption.

    In the end, of course not. All they can do is try – and ultimately fail – because as I’ve said many times here in many comments, they’re demon-possessed. Their inherent evil (i.e. demon-possession) apparently gets in the way of their calculated evil (devil worship), dooming them to ultimate failure from the outset.

    Have a look at the Bible, e.g. Matthew 8:28-32).

    The Covid lockdowns might have been a misstep. More people are on to the game than ever before.

    They make a lot of mistakes; their biggest one believing that they ever had a chance in the first place.

    • Agree: Franz
  156. lysias says:

    The Russian delegation to the UN is scheduled to present evidence about the biolabs to the Security Council at 11 A.M. today.

  157. What convinced me covid was American made against the Chinese and Iranians was that intelligence document weeks before a true outbreak occurred in China and Iran.

  158. Poco says:
    @matzahballsgonewrong

    Ah. It was Russia that was operating 26 bio-warfare labs in Ukraine.

  159. Realist says:
    @Levtraro

    Agree. Such a biological weapon would be the most inefficient weapon ever, with high probability of being catastrophically inefficient.

    That has, at one time, been said about most weapons in existence today. I think you underestimate the determination and evilness of the psychos in our power structure.

    • Agree: Herald
    • Replies: @Quartermaster
    , @Levtraro
  160. Athena says:
    @GMC

    wherever you have GMOs being grown, you will find a batch of Biolabs

    I agree.

    Foodwatch submits complaint to the European Ombudsman against CETA
    https://www.bilaterals.org/?foodwatch-submits-complaint-to-the&lang=en

    (exerpts)

    ”After a long correspondence with European Commission on the trade agreement CETA, foodwatch has submitted today a complaint to the European Ombudsman. The complaint addresses the lack of transparency and democratic deficits of the CETA committees’ work.”

    ”CETA is a living agreement, negotiations between Canada and Europe continue in committee meetings. The committees meet behind closed doors, negotiating important issues like pesticide protection standards, food controls or genetic engineering standards.”

    ”Decisions are made in secret”

    ”Over the past two years, foodwatch has been working hard to find out what the European Commission and Canada are negotiating under the CETA trade agreement via publicly available documents as well by requesting access to further documents. Parts of the requested preparatory documentation have not been made accessible. All in all, the available documents did not provide sufficient insight into the activities of the CETA committees.”

    • Replies: @GMC
  161. Poco says:
    @Liosnagcat

    It’s not damage limitation. It is an offensive. The US putrid media will let it be known these were innocent benevolent research labs figuring out how to make us all immortal or some such.
    Then those nasty rooskies seized them and released their contents, purposefully, to kill us all.

  162. @Mevashir

    There’s a lot that doesn’t make sense. Putin has just approved foreign mercenaries to join the Russian side in Ukraine and tens of thousands of Middle Easterners are waiting to get sent to the fronts. I hope the Russians can consolidate most of the Ukraine with their own forces and then throw these mostly Muslim volunteers and mercenaries at the Nazis in Galicia and Lvov, so while the rest of Ukraine starts to recover and rebuild, this western part can become a black zone where all the scum and filth and the worst extremists from all sides, including Western Nazis and refugee ISIS terrorists can be sent to for their termination. This would be just payment to those Galician Nazis for not being satisfied with their own area and spreading all over the country sending tens of thousands of their lunatic murderers to the south and to other cities. Mess with the Russians and you’re going to get messed up and over.

  163. nsa says:

    Southfront is back up and running. Their donors can expect a 4 AM knock on the door any day now. Reading PMSNBC, Faux News, Sludge, CNT, etc you would think the hated Russkies have run out of tanks and jets, and are now backed up against the Urals with the Ukies about ready to victory parade in Red Square.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  164. Athena says:

    Donald Rumsfeld Returns to Georgia

    https://www.newsbud.com/2012/07/03/donald-rumsfeld-returns-to-georgia/

    ”Vershbow, former ambassador to NATO and to Russia and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, was in the nation to attend the Georgia Defence and Security Conference on June 29 and was accompanied by Assistant Secretary of Defense (and principal adviser to the Secretary of Defense and Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics for matters concerning nuclear, chemical, and biological defense programs) Andrew C. Weber; Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia Celeste Wallander; and Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, U.S. European Command’s deputy director of plans, policy and strategy.”

  165. @Kali

    Thanks for the invite. I am in Madeira and since I can’t/won’t use a mask I am beginning to feel a bit like Napoleon on St. Helena. But if I am ever able to make it to the mainland again, Serra da Gardunha definitely seems worth visiting!

    Com os meus melhores cumprimentos

  166. I don’t think little Marco expected the silly cow to fess up like she did.
    She was meant to deny it so he could pitch the “the Russians did it” followup.

  167. Arioch says: • Website

    Hello, Ron.

    1) i am reading Russian so i was able to somewhat read Ukrainian documents in the initial leak.

    I agree with you that that first leak was appetizer, hinting without claiming.
    Perhaps, RuMoD played that western game “that’s what you tought, i did not say it” for one reason or another.

    Thaere at MoA’s we had some politely heated discussion about having lack of faith 🙂

    If anyone bothers, he might proceed to page 2 of comments here:
    Posted by: Arioch | Mar 6 2022 21:14 utc | 158
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/ukraine-open-thread-2022-22/comments/page/2/#comments

    And then page 2 of comments there:
    Posted by: Arioch | Mar 7 2022 18:53 utc | 128
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/to-punish-russia-the-liberal-order-attempts-to-suicide-itself/comments/page/2/#comments

    Now, about…

    > our Defense budget was funding the development of deadly biological weapons at Ukrainian labs

    What if the development was not the major point, if happenned at all?

    Call me paranoid, but i can’t help remembering GitMo and that secret CIA torture center in Poland.
    Why them?

    Well…

    https://www.armscontrol.org/events/2021-09/us-chemical-weapons-stockpile-elimination-progress-update

    USA comitted toverifiable clean USA ground of all chem-WMD to September 2023.
    It would be a bad setback if they won’t.

    At the same time, USA clearly wants to retain their chem-WMD. Be it otherwise, USA would dispose of it years ago.

    So, we see here USA having two seemingly mutually exclusive goals:

    1. USA must retain their chem-WMD
    2. USA must verifiably remove all chem-WMD from USA land/posession.

    Can we somehow kill two brids with one stone? Can USA eat their chem-WMD yet still have them?
    Can both those mutually exclusive goals be met???

    GitMo, right?

    Surely USA can have BOTH goals met, if they instead of costly and irreversible destruction of their chem-WMD would just move their stocks into some “black sites” in formally independent obedient colonies of theirs. Ukraine, Georgia, Montenegro, etc, etc. There is no chem-WMD in USA and everyone can come and prove it, yet USA still possesses all of it.

    I can only speculate about that, but i can not see why USA would desist from doing so.

    • Thanks: Spanky
  168. @Realist

    The application of bio and chem weapons carry a large probability of backfiring. It matters not that there are plenty of sociopaths around, nothing changes that fact.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @Realist
  169. Anon[126] • Disclaimer says:

    The labs in Ukraine are developing a special Viagara for any geriatric Joos who want to have a gang bust with Victoria. Call it a Hasbara WMD for ugly old hoes like her.

  170. @A. Nonymous

    I probably should’ve said the hybrid war against China of which the trade war was a part. Anyway, as Trump steadily escalated tensions with China throughout his term (with provocations that began even before he was even inaugurated), there came a point IIRC where China threatened to cut off sales of pharmaceutical ingredients to the U.S., e.g. generic antibiotics. Had they done this, it likely would’ve resulted in the deaths of lots of people in the U.S.

    In light of this I would compare it to the risk Trump took when he attacked Syria with cruise missiles in April 2017 for example. For all Trump knew, some Russian personnel may have been killed; Syrian government forces (or their allies) may have taken some kind of retaliatory action; Israel may have taken advantage of the situation and carried out an act of false-flag retaliation. Things could’ve happened that could’ve escalated into a major crisis or even WW3.

    • Replies: @A. Nonymous
  171. Wokechoke says:
    @gotmituns

    Ukraine is a frontierjustice dumping GROUND.

  172. Wokechoke says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    It’s apparently where Chernobyl happened and much of the mysterious Holocaust. TARKOFSKY’S stalker comes to mind.

  173. @for-the-record

    from the nefarious RT — also in an archived version, since in Portugal where I live it is blocked so as to protect me from harmful content

    Yes, but you can get through with a VPN, like Psyphon.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  174. Victoria Nuland and the rest of the zionist kabal have the blood of this war on their hands, they caused it with their coup in kiev in 2014 and this war is the fruit of their corrupt zionist tree.

    • Agree: Badger Down
    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  175. How does the US wipe their stinking filthy GlobalHomoZioBIGsRxMIC3BLM hands funding so many bio weapons labs in Ukraine and elsewhere, with evidence of dna sampling and tampering of neighboring Russian/Slavic bloodlines? You first start a war with Russia and China, then blame them for all the incompetence and corruption despicable pigs in government bath in.

    I mean seriously, do they really want all straight Christian whites silently murdered by directly targeting dna when endless wars fail to finish us off?

    Pour the Vodka, let’s get this CW 2.0 finished, I’ve got Magik Negro fatigue and I’m sick of GlobalHomo-2SLGBTQQIAPWXYZ gay freaks stinking up the air I breath.

    • Agree: profnasty
  176. Realist says:
    @Kali

    One of the witnesses in the covid “Grand Jury” hearings, a geneticist and medical practitioner from South Africa (who’s name I did not catch, I’m sorry to say) reported that the three “waves” of covid affected three distinct racial groups: wave 1 affected blacks, wave 2 Indians and wave 3 whites.

    While that specificity may or may not be available now, with determination the psychos in the power structure of this country will strive for even more target specificity.

    • Replies: @Kali
  177. Looking at the headline photo of despicable fat Hag Victoria Nulandbwitch, I’ve come to the conclusion that they intentionally brought her back to torment men and demean women by trying to turn us into 2SLGBTQQIAPWXYZ.
    Her and Hillary have got to be the most despicable slabs of Unphuced flesh the world has ever seen.

  178. Realist says:

    It matters not that there are plenty of sociopaths around, nothing changes that fact.

    Sure it does, the fact that they are sociopaths means they don’t care if it backfires. With determination and experimentation…the chance of a backfire can be greatly decreased.

  179. @TG

    but then why are we spreading these research labs all over the world

    In order to avoid the restrictive laws prevalent inside the U.S. And to re-channel a portion of the money from over there back to the Big Guy over here.

    Whoever he is. Of whichever party. And or social group.

  180. @MarkU

    Only the criminally insane could support such a programme, even if such a virus could be contrived how would they test it? or would they use it untested?

    But here’s the thing. The whole jewish-supremacist effort (of which biological warfare is apparently a component) to dominate and control the world by way of calculated evil – is a manifestation of “criminal insanity” (to try to put a Biblical-spiritual concept into “worldly” terms).

    Anyway, demon-possessed Nuland is married to demon-possessed Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for a New American Century, a group of demon-possessed madmen who published a paper entitled Rebuilding America’s Defenses. On page 60 of the document – under the subheading Transforming U.S. Conventional Forces appears the following sentence:

    “And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.”

    http://resistir.info/livros/rebuilding_americas_defenses.pdf

    What you see as something that wold be”criminally insane,” Robert Kagan et al. see as a “politically useful tool.”

    • Thanks: Spanky, Robjil
  181. @Chris Moore

    Snakes have bones. Worms do not.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  182. @Mevashir

    I can’t fathom why the Russians want American companies like McDonald’s and Marriott operating in their country. I thought Russians pride themselves on their healthy diet? Why would they want to eat crappy McDonald’s food? Can’t Russians create their own hotel companies?

    They will keep the infrastructures, the brand and commercial channels, but as they take over the management and production, probably they can change the composition of products and some procedures.
    You can make a healthy burger and smoothie ! (although it’s more difficult for fries…)

  183. @MarkU

    The only way to make something like that work is to inoculate protected subjects in advance with some antidote. Let’s see.

    Step one. Perhaps a realistic pandemic. Hatched somewhere in a bat cave in China. Inoculate everyone worldwide with protective medication, except the reluctant deplorables.

    Then release the killer germs to eliminate all those who do not have protective antibodies. Later, after the demise of the susceptible, a celebration for the survivors. Now, what might it be called? Hmmm.

    • Replies: @inspector general
  184. eah says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Since all the favorite excuses for Russia’s unprovoked war of aggression in Ukraine have been debunked, …

    The reasons for the war given by Putin are 1) the treatment of Russians in the self-declared autonomous regions of eastern Ukraine, and 2) the fact Putin views Ukraine in NATO as a ‘red line’, meaning a direct threat to the national security of the RF, and he has consistently said so for 15 years.

    The problem of 1) has existed and remained unresolved since early 2014, so the Russians have actually been quite patient: Putin did not recognize the autonomous regions until February, 2022.

    One may have a contrary view, meaning believe that the low-level conflict in eastern Ukraine is not worth going to war over, or that Ukraine joining NATO is not a security threat to Russia — but it’s ludicrous to say these have been ‘debunked’ as reasons for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine — how can these reasons possibly be ‘debunked’? — can the Monroe Doctrine be ‘debunked’?

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  185. @Chris Moore

    “Cry ”Havoc!’ and let slip the ZOGs of war!”

  186. @Kali

    Fuellmich is questionable. He was part of a Soros org. But then Victor Orban was too and now Orban is a “traitor”. As soon as Orban made the right turn he got poisoned. Remember?
    Fuellmich made a lot of money going against our car manufacturers. He is a traitor.

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Kali
  187. @Quartermaster

    Well of course. Lots of things that demon-possessed madmen do “carry a large probability of backfiring.” What else would you expect?

    They cut off Russian oil imports which hurts Americans (and risks their political fortunes) and then they have to go begging to Venezuela and Iran. They put tariffs on Chinese products and it mainly hurts Americans. They try to overthrow Assad which brings Russia into Syria to support Assad, and the Syrian government gets new weapons and the Syrian army gets combat experience. In an attempt to achieve nuclear primacy they withdraw from nuclear treaties only to be beaten at their own game by the emergence of superior Russian technology. They try to disarm the people of the U.S. and in so doing they create the “ghost gun” industry. Etc.

  188. @hardlooker

    By the time they’re 60 most Khazar women already look like Yosemite Sam. Nudelman is no exception.

  189. Anon[832] • Disclaimer says:

    The evidence of these labs existing, and their potential nefarious purposes, has been out there for a while.

    Here’s the US Embassy in Kiev denouncing conspiracy theories about the labs, but confirming their existence, prior to Covid pandemic in Jan 2020:

    Here’s a report from journalist Dilyana Gaytandzhieva investigating bio-lab in Tbilisi, Georgia in 2018, where she attempts to get answers from a US diplomat found leaving the lab, and also runs into resistance when lab employees are photographing her walking near the compound.

    Here’s an RT article from 2017 documenting Russian complaints of US Air force collecting DNA samples specifically of ethnic Russians

    https://www.rt.com/news/408416-russians-biological-samples-research/

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Kiza
  190. profnasty says:

    Two million covid deaths? Really?
    No flu? Motorcycles. Diabetes. Cancer and heart. Two million? OK.
    Ukrayne, Keef.
    This is war, right on our horizon.
    Rense has been canceled (3/11/22).
    Methinks because they support Russia’s narrative. ZOG is on the warpath. Keep your head down. Watch for bank seizures and even sanctioned street violence (ala BLM).
    If NATO provides F-16s, it’s on, baby. Russia will take off the gloves.
    Time is how G_d keeps everything from happening all at once. Everything is happening now.Time is on hold.The quickening.. Given time, you can protect yourself. Without it—you’re toast.

    • Replies: @profnasty
  191. Noble47 says:
    @Spender_CGB

    I think at least part of the conversation was rehearsed. Both Nuland and Rubio were keen to emphasize that, if there was a bio-weapon attack, it would be the Russians that were responsible. That has an ominous ring to it, as it would be a good way to prepare the American public for a false-flag bio-weapon attack in Ukraine which would then be blamed on the Russians.

    Also interesting was the fact that Nuland never did answer Rubio’s question about whether Ukraine had chemical or biological weapons. To me, her statement amounted to a non-denial denial – so they likely do possess such weapons.

    • Replies: @Spanky
    , @Anonymous
  192. @Mr. Anon

    “From the dawn of time until the present day, I am becoming persuaded that the best explanation of human history is that most people in power are amoral psychopaths. Essentially like serial killers, but higher functioning.”

    You are correct. In fact, it is almost an axiom that to reach the higher positions in government or business, an increasing level of sociopathology and/or psychopathology is necessary. To quote:

    Several years ago, Jim Kouri reported an FBI study which stated:

    “… character traits exhibited by serial killers or criminals may be observed in many within the political arena. They share the traits of psychopaths who are not sensitive to altruistic appeals, such as sympathy for their victims or remorse or guilt over their crimes. They possess the personality traits of lying, narcissism, selfishness, and vanity. These are the people to whom we have entrusted our fate. Is it any wonder that America is failing at home and world-wide?”

    The important point is that those “within the political arena”, namely American Presidents, Vice-Presidents, Secretaries of State, Defense Secretaries, White House staff, and many Senators and Congressmen display many or most of the traits of criminal psychopaths and mass murderers. They could have included a great many corporate executives in that statement, and indeed the corporate arena is a primary source of the psychopaths necessary to populate the White House and Congress, the Departments of State, Defense and Commerce.

    Consider Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, respectively George Bush’s Secretary of Defense and Vice-President, two of the most savage and malignant humans that have ever cursed this earth. Rumsfeld was at one time the president of the Searle pharmaceutical company and Cheney the CEO of Halliburton oil well services. Where do you suppose these two pustulent stars of American political life acquired their talent as pathological killers? How do you imagine they were induced to conceive and build the largest network of torture facilities in the world’s history? Do you suppose they joined the US government and were so corrupted by the experience they became criminally insane? You know that didn’t happen. Rumsfeld and Cheney were psychopaths and mass killers long before they became kingpins of “the world’s greatest democracy”, and were prized by the government precisely because of these ‘talents’. They weren’t given high places in the US government in spite of their criminal tendencies, but because of those tendencies.

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-psychopathic-criminal-enterprise-called-america/
    The Psychopathic Criminal Enterprise Called America
    LARRY ROMANOFF • NOVEMBER 5, 2020

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Passing By
  193. Ron Unz says:
    @Anon

    The evidence of these labs existing, and their potential nefarious purposes, has been out there for a while…Here’s a report from journalist Dilyana Gaytandzhieva…Here’s an RT article from 2017 documenting Russian complaints of US Air force collecting DNA samples specifically of ethnic Russians

    Sure, I’d certainly been aware of all of that, and in fact I’d cited Gaytandzhieva’s research among other sources in one of my long articles last year:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#p_1_36

    However, on biowarfare issues you have to assume there’s an enormous amount of lying and propaganda on all sides, and most of the evidence you mention either seemed pretty circumstantial to me or else possibly fabricated. But in her testimony, Nuland admitted that the labs existed and also said she was very concerned about their contents falling into Russian hands, suggesting that their work was far from innocuous.

    So in my opinion (and that of Greenwald and Carlson), that now strongly tilts balance of credibility in favor of the Russian accusations and the documents they supposedly captured. Carlson’s clip is now approaching 1.8M views on Youtube.

    The Russians are convening a UN Security Council meeting this morning to discuss their charges, so maybe they’ll present their evidence, and we’ll see how solid it looks:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/security-council-hear-russian-claim-us-labs-ukraine-83383215

    • Disagree: The Messerschmitt Twins
    • Thanks: Miro23
  194. profnasty says:
    @profnasty

    UPDATE.
    Rense is up. So there’s that.
    Still, caution is advised.
    Nothing to see here. Go on about your miserable lives.

  195. peterike says:
    @meamjojo

    49,000 to 400,000 out of 44 million is a “very high Jewish population”? Even at the high estimate, that is still under 1%. [roflol]

    Yes, the population of Jews in Ukraine is very small. Which doesn’t stop them from owning everything worth owning. Because the Jews looted Ukraine after the fall of the USSR same as they did in Russia, and Ukraine is now impoverished for that same reason: bloodsucking Jews taking every dime they can from the people. Putin was able to correct a lot of that in Russia, saving millions of Russian lives in the process. Ukraine is still fully under the thumb of Jewish oligarchs. Not Ukrainian oligarchs, like the press always says.

    How does a nation so rich in natural resources have a population so poor? The above is your answer.

  196. Che Guava says:

    Mr. Unz,

    Another great article. One point of disagreement, the U.S.A. was not the first biowarfare state. Leaving aside old records of the Mongols using plague-flea infested items at times, modern biowarfare approaches were most definitely pioneered by Japan, at first prophylactic.

    Admiral Togo won the Russo-Japanese war at sea, but there was a land war, too. There, Russia’s loss was mainly beause so many more of their soldiers became sick.

    This was not biowarfare, but just a better understanding of the military value of disease prophylaxis.

    However, by the time of the China invasion, many of these people were in a special force, Unit 731.

    Unit 731 definitely did many dreadful human experiments at their various bases in China, but their first foray into open biowarfare seems to have been at the battle of Nomonha, some Soviet soldiers likely became sick and died, but the actions of the 731 crew had no real effect, it was a rout.

    At the end of the Pacific war, just as in Operation Paperclip in the west, all of the top 731 men were excused of war crimes and whisked away to work on the U.S. bioweapons programme, effects first reappearing in China, then Korea.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  197. Levtraro says:
    @Realist

    I am not relying on the sanity of people in power positions, what I am saying is that ethnically-specific bioweapons cannot be achieved on a technical level. We know a lot more about physics than we know about biology. Biology is too complex to achieve such a degree a fine-tuning of any bioweapon. Generalized bioweapons and delivery systems for those generalized bioweapons are, on the other hand, within the realm of technical possibilities of course.

    • Replies: @Realist
  198. anon[740] • Disclaimer says:

    Wait till you see the hysteria when Russia takes the nuke/bio WMD evidence to the ICJ. This will make Rep. of Nicaragua v. United States of America look like Judge Judy.

  199. gatobart says:

    This from the latest article by Pepe Escobar:

    “By now what we may call a Triple Threat has been established as the catalyst anticipating the launch of Operation Z.

    “Ukraine developing nuclear weapons. Zelensky himself hinted at it in the Munich Security Conference.
    U.S. bioweapons labs in Ukraine. Confirmed, tersely, by none other than the Sinister Cookie Distributor neocon wife in the uber-neocon Kaganate of Nulands, who described them as “biological research facilities”. ”
    An imminent attack on Donbass with massive civilian deaths. It could have been in March, according to documents seized by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Or even in late February, according to SVR intelligence, which was monitoring the line of contact on a minute-by-minute basis. This is what eventually prompted Operation Z as a Russian version of R2P (“Responsibility to Protect”).

    So after years of CIA-instigated shouts of “conspiracy theory!” and less than zero “fact checkers” activity, it turns out “it was all happening in Ukraine”, as divine messenger Maria Zakharova once again pointed out: “We have found your own products. We have found your biological material.”

    The first-class investigative work of Dilyana Gaytandzhieva on Pentagon bioweapons was fully vindicated.

    Based on documents received from Ukrainian biolab employees, the Russian ModD revealed that research with samples of bat coronavirus, among other experiments, were conducted in a Pentagon-funded biolab.

    The purpose of all this research – which included another Pentagon project to study the transfer of pathogens by wild birds migrating between Ukraine and Russia and other neighboring countries – was “to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens.””
    From:
    Cutting Through the Fog Masking ‘a New Page in the Art of War’

    Now, sorry Putin fans, but when I read these lines I don’t feel angry at the U.S. government because II have known it for all of my life and I know very well of what is capable. I am angry at Vladimir Putin and at his incredibly stupid behavior in 2014 when the president of Ukraine V. Yanukovich was being the target of a U.S. financed and sponsored coup and many of us were pleading in every open forum for Putin to send him the military aid he was asking for to put down the revolt while Mr. Putin was blatantly ignoring his pleas, basking in the limelight of his ego feast in Sochi, trying to be loved by the “West” while repeating once again his idiotic mantra that the main priority of his foreign policy was to have good relations with the U.S.. Lets stop fooling yourselves, Putin fans, the mess Russia is actually facing in Ukraine, the virtual state of war with the West, the unnecessary death of many Russians in the battle, have all one responsible, Vladimir Putin and his catastrophic foreign policy towards the U.S. and NATO for the last decade. Had he heard the pleas of the duly elected president of Ukraine in 2014 the worst the world would have had to face is a Ukrainian civil war and the possible partition of the country., Thanks to Vladimir Putin, to his self serving, idiotic obssesion of being liked by “the West”,what we have now is an European continent wide conflict, many Russian deaths that didn’t had to happen and even a the possibility of WW3.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Sparkylyle92
  200. @DevilAdvocate

    Yes, but you can get through with a VPN, like Psyphon.

    I know, I use PureVPN, I attached the archived version for those readers who don’t have VPN.

  201. @Jesus Evola

    I think that’s pretty much where our gracious hosts’s political implications in this important article were – and are – heading. But I think it’s also true to say that he has a somewhat more… subtle, restrained and overall more tactful, carefully-worded style than many of us here bother to adopt. I admire that greatly, actually.

  202. Levtraro says:
    @nsa

    Southfront is back up and running. Their donors can expect a 4 AM knock on the door any day now.

    They take donations in cryptocurrencies so donors can protect their privacy if they take some precautions.

  203. Spanky says:
    @Noble47

    …Nuland never did answer Rubio’s question about whether Ukraine had chemical or biological weapons. To me, her statement amounted to a non-denial denial – so they likely do possess such weapons. — Noble47

    Ukraine would only have acquired biological weapons from the labs if the USG provided them. The USG, as per DoD and State Dept. admissions, financed and operated the labs — if Ukrainians were involved, they were junior partners and/or employees supervised by Americans.

    There are similar labs, in 25 countries worldwide, operated by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under the Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), according to the Pentagon.

    We have met the enemy, and, they are us. — Walt Kelly

    • Replies: @Noble47
  204. Kali says:
    @Realist

    While that specificity may or may not be available now, with determination the psychos in the power structure of this country will strive for even more target specificity.

    No doubt, Realist.
    The covid psy-op was probably a pilot study in genetic targeting, amongst other things – mass formation/psychosis, for example.

    Sending you best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Realist
  205. @Larry Romanoff

    The ‘Western’ world in general and the US specifically are ‘ponerocracies’:

    http://ponerology.com/

    • Thanks: Sarah
  206. d dan says:
    @Ron Unz

    “So in my opinion (and that of Greenwald and Carlson), that now strongly tilts balance of credibility in favor of the Russian accusations and the documents they supposedly captured. Carlson’s clip is now approaching 1.8M views on Youtube.”

    but, but, but … “what difference does it make” (to quote from another crook). Rubio will be re-elected, again, and again. Graham will be re-elected, again and again. Nuland will be re-appointed, again and again. Sean Hannity will continue to be the host of Fox News, liars will lies again and again, and American will go back to watch their football… There is no demand for truth, no courage to face the facts, no internal drive to reflect, self-correct, reform or even revolution within the country. Even when 80 millions think the election is stolen, their protest lasted for…. HALF a day. Considering most of them have gun /AK-47 / military training, claiming to love their liberty, … Now compare that with Hong Kong teenagers rioting for half a year, with only stones and sticks.

    So, don’t blame the politicians, don’t blame the elites, don’t blame wall street/Fauci/Bill Gates, don’t blame Jews, immigrants, Russian, Chinese,… Blame the stupid, clueless, gutless American.

    • Agree: Ghan-buri-Ghan
    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  207. Some days ago there was a report that captured (by Donbass/Russia) MANPADS might be used to threaten NATO. This seems to be imminent, the systems and missiles plus a lot more materiel left/surrendered by Uke troops.
    There is currently a proposal to donate it all to DPR/LPR.

    We have accumulated plenty of Ukrainian weapons, including tanks, armored vehicles, all kinds of small arms in large quantities, [and] artillery. We also have many Javelin and Stinger systems,” the minister reported. He named the US-made portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles, which Washington and its allies airlifted to Kiev en masse ahead of the hostilities.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/551688-western-weapons-ukrainian-rebels/

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  208. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:

    The Seattle Times today has an article about “the right rushing to embrace Russian disinformation”, claiming that Tucker Carlson and the right are twisting Victoria Nuland’s testimony, that the US was only helping Ukraine set up these labs so we could “study” dangerous pathogens like swine flu and anthrax so we could learn how to cure them. That must be why we also funded the gain of functions research in China, so we could learn how to cure them. The article also claims that Russia has many of their own bioweapons labs and have deployed their toxins numerous times, without offering any evidence or when and where these deployments occured.

    It’s all about spin control now, and they can’t even do a credible job at it.

    When I ask people why do we set up these labs, the answer is always the same, if we don’t do it, someone else will. It’s the standard excuse for all the evils we do in the world. There is no honor and integrity anymore in this government. It has been hijacked by the evilest people in history.

  209. Realist says:
    @Levtraro

    Biology is too complex to achieve such a degree a fine-tuning of any bioweapon.

    Everything is too complex…before it’s not. Speaking of physics…the same thing was said about nuclear weapons.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  210. Agent76 says:

    January 26, 2022 What is NATO? Military alliance in spotlight as Russia tries to forbid Ukraine membership

    NATO was established in 1949 as a defense against the Soviet Union. Its core principal is mutual defense, enshrined in Article 5 of its founding treaty. There are 30 NATO member. Russia is trying to keep Ukraine from joining them. The threat of a Russian invasion of Ukraine prompted NATO forces to mobilize across Europe, evoking for many the military alliance’s first reasons for being.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/01/26/nato-military-alliance-explained-russia-ukraine/9211025002/

    Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With US

    • Thanks: Dieter Kief
  211. Sepp says:

    We need to recognize that Hollywood has been busy programming us to accept “Bio-warfare”. Jurassic Park was at its core “Biological Warfare” where Spielberg glorified genetic manipulation. The “Incredible Island of Doctor Moreau” really illustrated how the Khazarians are planning to create hybrids Baphomets out of us. One thing that struck me about Zelinskyy’s little tranny video was how much all those faggots wearing platform heals pranced around just like baby Baphomets.

    Covid-19 was a blatant bio-warfare release, yet as always they pretended that only “conspiracy theorists” could ever fall for the “fake news” and believe it was bio-warfare all the while continually presenting evidence and even proof that it was.

    This is precisely what we had with all the sodomites demanding “gay marriage”. Anyone with half a brain knew that the faggots were really after little boys, this is why we had years of scandals about the Boy Scouts. It has all come true before our very eyes.

    So now we have years of information being “leaked” about bio-labs while at the same time they fervently deny their existence. This is just the standard MO of the Khazarian name stealers. Some people become so predictively programmed that they cannot see it. Others become so disgusted with the predictability of it all that they just shrug their shoulders and give up.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  212. @eah

    …how can these reasons possibly be ‘debunked’?

    Because neither of them are true. They are merely transparent pretexts that appeal to uncritical and credulous people:

    1 – If the treatment of the separatists in Donas were the main issue then Russia would sought UN approval under the R2P doctrine to invade and then have limited its operations to that region instead of attacking thousands of civilians in Ukraine’s two largest cities, and elsewhere, far away from the Donbas.

    2 – Russia acknowledged the right of sovereign countries to choose their alliances in 1997, so the “red lines” violate those treaties. So-called “national security threats” are a nebulous construct. Ukraine does not meet the criteria to join NATO, and NATO countries would not want to accept it. It has been publicly stated that the issue is not on the agenda for the next ten years.

    For more details you have to check my archives because I cannot constantly repeat myself in detail.

    • Troll: eah
    • Replies: @Milton
  213. lydia says:
    @Hyper Bole

    Fortunately, there are EBT cards… but the rents!!! The cost of housing is also crazy and this is being done intentionally too. Vanguard and Black Rock are buying up single-family units as quick as they can. Part of their plan is to tear the houses down and erect multi-family dwellings, once they have baksheeshed The Zoning Commission.

    THEY want to control every aspect of your life. They are the REALLY CRAZY among us. God has made them so; “those whom the God’s would destroy, they first drive mad.” When you see crazy people acting out, whether by a dumpster on a side street or in a three-piece Armani suit… it is only a matter of appearances.

    http://www.smoking-mirrors.com/

  214. Realist says:
    @Quartermaster

    It matters not that there are plenty of sociopaths around, nothing changes that fact.

    Sure it does, the fact that they are sociopaths means they don’t care if it backfires. With determination and experimentation…the chance of a backfire can be greatly decreased.

  215. “The oil companies have to reveal their profits.” “All Americans that were fifty miles from the Capitol on Jan. 16 etc. are terrorists and insurrectionists.” “Anyone who doesn’t support LBGQTXYZ is a Nazi.” “People who think the police are necessary are fools and evil.” “Any parent who doesn’t allow the public school system to 100% have its way with their children is a terrorist and evil.”

    ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IN ANY WAY IS NUTS.

  216. Mefobills says:

    the Trump Administration could not possibly have done anything so reckless and foolish. I think that argument seems far weaker today than it did a week ago.

    If what Ron says above is true, and it is, then what about the past?

    The past had as many liars then as now, so the past historical record has to be questioned too.

    The liars are pushing their self serving agenda.

    • Agree: Spanky
  217. Levtraro says:
    @Realist

    Everything is too complex…before it’s not.

    I guess it could feasible within the next thousand years, say 50 thousand, when Anglos, Slavs, Asians and others have had time to diverge some more in their biological constitution.

    • Replies: @Realist
  218. babu says:

    Alternate view:

  219. Kali says:
    @Kurt Knispel

    [Note to the moderator: given that the subject matter of the hearings refered to below include clear evidence that the sars-cove2 pathogen was indeed engineered, this comment is entirely on-topic per the title if this article. I have however, for your benefit, inserted a “more” tag so that fewer people will take notice of my comment, as seems to be in keeping with current moderation policy.]

    Thanks for the background info Kurt. I didn’t know of Fuellmich’s conection to Soros. It is certainly interesting.

    [MORE]

    But as for the “Grand Jury” hearings themselves, although poorly presented and formatted, so many of the expert witnesses have delivered devastating testimony and evidence, that is just not getting out there (due to such bad presentation: 5 hour long videos are slow to load and very laggy, especially over a weak wifi connection, such as mine).

    BUT I would still HIGHLY recommend all readers to take the time and trouble to watch (and maybe even download, edit into segments and re-upload)!

    There are so many crucial details from so many highly qualified and credible witnesses, many of whom most of us have never heard of, or from, before. It would be a crying shame if this effort (the Grand Jury) fell by the wayside because of poor public presentation.

    The really juicy stuff begins on day 3, which deals with the virus and the PCR tests, though that’s not to discount the evidence given on day 2 pertaining to the wider historic and geo-political background. (Day 1 is basic introductions abd explainations).

    I hope and pray that someone reading this, with decent editing software and a better internet conection than mine, takes heed and takes the time to look at those over-long presentations with a view to, 1. Hearing the evidence of the experts, and 2. Making it more accessable to the people.

    I have no idea why the legal team behind this effort haven’t given due concideration to the actual presentation of the material, other than it’s not their line. Who knows if Soros connections are at play here.

    The only thing I know for sure is that the evidence being presented needs and deserves our attention.

    Thank you for your comment.

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

  220. Realist says:
    @Levtraro

    I guess it could feasible within the next thousand years, say 50 thousand, when Anglos, Slavs, Asians and others have had time to diverge some more in their biological constitution.

    You are just being silly now…and or you know nothing about science and the great strides being made in genomics.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  221. Barr says:

    Deny first . If it works fine . If exposed , claim it was all done in the broad daylight with the full knowledge of all actors – millions of them .

    “But its subscribers were never aware it was created by the US government, or that American contractors were gathering their private data in the hope that it might be used for political purposes.
    “There will be absolutely no mention of United States government involvement,” according to a 2010 memo from Mobile Accord, one of the project’s contractors. “This is absolutely crucial for the long-term success of the service and to ensure the success of the Mission.”

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/us-cuban-twitter-zunzuneo-stir-unrest
    —————————————————————————-

    “Yet its users were neither aware it was created by a U.S. agency with ties to the State Department,

    It is unclear whether the scheme was legal under U.S. law, which requires written authorization of covert action by the president and congressional notification. Officials at the USAID would not say who had approved the program or whether the White House was aware of it.

    USAID Administrator Rajiv Shah said Thursday that it was not a covert program”,

    https://apnews.com/article/technology-cuba-united-states-government-904a9a6a1bcd46cebfc14bea2ee30fdf

  222. anonymous[786] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey, when it’s time to ship Nuland off to Khabarovsk and stuff her fat ass in the glass booth at the biological weapons tribunals, and hang her, how will they keep the noose from slipping off her six chins? Cause at this rate it will take like eight tries to take care of her, and they got to get to Daszak and Kalek and Calisher and Avril Haines.

  223. Z-man says:
    @Chris Moore

    Zoglodytes amount to perpetual pearl-clutchers.

    I think she (Null-ind) clutched something around her fat neck when she was asked about the bio labs by Rubio. (Big grin)

  224. Wielgus says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    The Colonel Cassad website has a photo of a pro-Russian Donbass fighter with a captured Javelin. So they do have stuff like that and probably in some quantity.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  225. Ron Unz says:
    @Che Guava

    Another great article. One point of disagreement, the U.S.A. was not the first biowarfare state. Leaving aside old records of the Mongols using plague-flea infested items at times, modern biowarfare approaches were most definitely pioneered by Japan, at first prophylactic…However, by the time of the China invasion, many of these people were in a special force, Unit 731.

    Sure, I’d actually (briefly) discussed Japan’s very extensive program in my Biowarfare article a few months ago, and was certainly aware that it predated America’s development of biowarfare during WWII:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-waging-biological-warfare/

    I should have chosen my words a little more carefully. I should have said that America had the world’s oldest extant biowarfare program, since after WWII the Japanese one was dismantled and actually absorbed into the American effort.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  226. “Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA)”

    Now THAT sure is an oxymoron, if I ever heard one!

  227. Ron Unz says:

    Great clip last night of Greenwald on Tucker Carlson

    • Thanks: Robjil
  228. rogue elements

    Thanks for recycling your eminently believable Covid as US Biowarfare theory, Ron Unz. This, along with all other “mysterious” virus attacks on Chinese foodstocks and Iranian top-level govt officials suddenly sickening, is a picture of what the USA is today.

    Personally I would demur at your assigning “rogue elements” as being responsible, just as thinking that The Horrible Victoria Nuland made a blunder.

    Not at all.
    THVN doesn’t care what you/the world thinks; the US govt is the entity doing these things, not a rogue element (while the rest innocently gets on with Mom and Apple Pie Americana). Her statement shows that the Ukr Biolabs are simply US policy.
    It’s in your face.
    It’s the zio-masonic Mad Dog doubling down on repeated past evils.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  229. Ron Unz says:

    Questioning of Robert Kadlec in 2018, America’s leading biowarfare advocate:

  230. Wielgus says:

    (colonelcassad.livejournal.com – Yandex translation from Russian edited)

    1. Mariupol. Urban battles with the gradual advance of our forces deep into the city. The enemy stubbornly resists, taking advantage of the fact that our troops are trying to prevent the death of civilians behind whom the Nazis are hiding. The ring is tightening, calls for the relief of Mariupol are becoming more and more hysterical.

    2. Volnovakha. Today the city was taken. Badly destroyed. For the residents there is a real humanitarian catastrophe. There are a lot of trophies in the city, including a large number of tanks. The combing of neighbourhoods and the capture of those enemy groups that did not have time to retreat to Ugledar continues.

    [MORE]

    3. Ugledar – Velikaya Novoselka. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation from the southwest and the DPR army from the southeast are gradually approaching Ugledar. A threat has also been created to Velikaya Novoselka, taking which it is possible to develop an offensive in the direction of Kurakhovo and Krasnoarmeysk. To the west, fighting continued in the Gulyai-Pole area.

    4. Izyum. There are serious battles in and around the southern districts of the city. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to prevent the use of Izyum as a springboard for the further advance of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, as well as in the direction of the Donetsk — Pavlograd highway.

    5. Kharkiv. Without much change. At night in the city, the building of the Kharkiv physics department, which was listed as an integral part of the dirty nuclear bomb programme, was blown up. The evidence is being cleaned up. To the east of Kharkiv, the troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are gradually blocking Chuguyev, the enemy was forced to undermine the bridge in the south-east of the city.

    6. Kiev. The battle continues both from the west and from the east of Kiev. The movement of mechanised columns indicates persistent attempts by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to block Kiev completely. The opponent indicates a fairly stubborn resistance. Chernihiv, as before, is blocked.

    7. Severdonetsk – Lisichansk. Fighting in the agglomeration area, as well as on the outskirts of Rubezhnoye. Popasnaya has not been taken to the end and there are still fights going on.

    8. Nikolayev. The city, as before, is blocked from three sides, and the grouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is located south of Krivoy Rog and on the approaches to Nikopol.

    9. Odessa. Without major changes. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine promotes the thesis about the imminent offensive of Russian troops from the PMR and prepares the remaining bridges for explosion.

    10. Zaporozhye. The city is being prepared for defence, but the front is now located between Vasilevka and Kamenskoye without much movement. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have not yet attempted to block Zaporozhye and are focused rather on moving north to the Donetsk -Pavlograd highway.

    In general, operations continue to develop despite negotiations and humanitarian corridors in some places. The most promising direction is the southern one. After the capture of Volnovakha, the DPR Armed Forces may increase pressure on Mariupol, as well as increase the forces advancing on Ugledar.

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Zaporozhye have a number of offensive options, which also creates additional difficulties for the enemy. It is also worth noting that the crisis of fuel and lubricants in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is becoming more acute in the Donbass. Its signs were clearly shown today in Volnovakha. Locals in Artemovsk report that the AFU already has a decent amount of equipment there has problems with refueling. In general, the crisis of the AFU grouping in the Donbass is growing.

    * * *

    Regarding the title card.

    Foreign analysts have calculated (https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2022/03/09/updated_russian_occupation_of_ukraine_troop-to-task_estimate_820732.html) how many troops Russia will need to control the liberated territory (west of the Dnieper River and north of Odessa) after the completion of the special operation in Ukraine.

    To do this, it will be necessary to perform at least four tasks:
    1. To ensure the security of the new border, including land and sea (about 3,000 km, including Crimea) – 27,300 people.
    2. To ensure the safety of critical infrastructure in large cities – 25900 people.
    3. To ensure the safety of the main roads and railways – 20300 people.
    4. To ensure the safety of the population, as well as the conduct of civil-military and counter-insurgency operations – 94,900 people.

    In general, the number of troops will be 168,400 people and the same amount will be required for rotation, a total of 336,800 people.

  231. R2b says:

    There probably is no leak without leaking.
    The sky leaks everyday, those bio-warfare substances.
    So she tells us.
    It is scripted.
    The great nothing so we wont get sick.
    All for our protection.
    Protect us please, from nothing!
    That is the choice of anti-Christ.
    Pray the prayer Our Father in Heaven.
    This is the little season.

  232. Derer says:
    @Anita Patel

    Never mind the Nuland’s revelation, the Russians have now the evidence of the existence of CIA biolabs in Ukraine anyway. Of course, it also reveals their intended clandestine use on Russian population, that will make the expression “glows are off” very real.

  233. Nuland is a demonic Jew stooge for the evil and treasonous JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

    I hope Neo-Con Nuland didn’t make her famous cookies at the JEW/WASP Ruling Class biowarfare lab in Ukraine.

    This anti-White and demonic and evil Jew Rothkopf is just as evil and demonic as Neo-Con Nuland:

  234. anastasia says:

    I was convinced that China and US were in on the pandemic together, together with WHO and all the CDC’s and big pharma corporations.

    Maybe everyone, except Russia

    Putin said years ago, “why is the US in my country collecting DNA from my people?”

  235. @WingsofADove

    ‘They’ started preparing for this(well the public, live, part) almost exactly four years ago, with the “poisoning” of the Skripals by MI5/6 at Salisbury(near Porton Down), on 06 March 2018.

    The best stuff on this is at The Blog Mire, which, amazingly is still going. Copy it while you can at

    http://www.theblogmire.com/joining-some-dots-on-the-skripal-case-part-5-an-educated-guess/#comment-5575

  236. Ron Unz says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Personally I would demur at your assigning “rogue elements” as being responsible

    I think it’s a matter of semantics…

    Given Trump’s indifferent and lackadaisical reaction once the Covid virus leaked back into the US and began spreading, I think it’s extremely unlikely he knew it was an American bioweapon. And if the president hasn’t authorized a biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), I’d say it’s a rogue operation by definition.

    However, I do think it’s likely that the attack was orchestrated by one or more individuals near the top of Trump’s administration, with Mike Pompeo and John Bolton being the most likely suspects.

    Also, I’m pleased to say that despite the total current focus on Russia/Ukraine one of my Rumble video interviews from last month on the Covid outbreak just broke 100,000 Views, a level I’d never expected to reach:



    Video Link .

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  237. “During those same two years, I have published a lengthy series of articles outlining the strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the global Covid epidemic was the result of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran).”

    Mr. Unz,

    I appreciate your work on the origins of COVID, as well as its global aftermath. It’s unfortunate that in this day and age, the mainstream media appears unwilling to consider all origins regarding this sometimes lethal virus. My question, however, is fairly straightforward. Given that COVID originated from a US biolab, intended to bring harm to China and Iran in particular, how exactly did the end results backfire so drastically? For the most part, China and Iran (excepting of course many within their leadership) have largely escaped the worst of COVID, while the rest of the world, including the US, the infections and death rates have been near cataclysmic levels, unseen since the Spanish Flu of WW1?

    In other words, it wasn’t the US’s intention to infect the entire world with COVID, and yet that is exactly what occurred. How exactly did this virus, originally intended as a bioweapon directed vs. China, backfire and infect the US along with the rest of the world at large? This I believe, remains the million dollar question at large. How exactly did the virus miss the target so to speak, and instead infect the entire world?

    And, it would also appear that the US was only intent on developing COVID, and not interested in simultaneously developing an antidote, should it have backfired (as it eventually did exactly that very thing).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  238. @Levtraro

    But that’s good. An efficient bio-weapon would kill life, all of it, dead.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  239. Miro23 says:
    @gatobart

    But if you make a mistake the best thing is to correct it as soon as possible. Rather late – but it’s what he’s doing now.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  240. @HeebHunter

    You can see the attraction: Remove the cap, and the wind and birds distribute the contents of the vial. Soon all those nasty people die a horrible death, as they should, leaving us, the superior beings, to roam the planet as gods. How could anything go wrong?

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  241. @Democrat Huner

    bi = 2, like a bicycle.
    by = side, like a side-effect or a byproduct.

  242. @meamjojo

    Every article posted here – every single one- has a number of folks claiming the Jews did it what’ever’n’hell it is or was.

    The Jews-did-it-ers are implacable and they seem to exist just to post that claim.

    Can these posters please find something else to do?

  243. Arioch says: • Website

    ….oookay, guys.

    Linked above are supposedly freshly leaked documents on cooperation between ukrainian bio-labs and US DoD

    Ron, it perhaps would be nice if you would consider storing that doc on your server, that site at my link gets DDoSed bidaily, adding to it a pottential slashdot effect from Unz readers might be unhandy. Or maybe not.

    It seems Kremlin for years was watching US TV newscycles and especially how important are weekend cycles. It seems Kremlin leaked docs with tiny leaks to maximize suspense to Friday evening and then start leaking for real until Sturday night or more.

    YT is hastily dialing up rusophobic censorship, when one coupd think it can not get worse. It seems wester discourcemongers were caught pants down and can not improvise any intelligent PR counterplay, falling back to crude scorched earth response.

  244. @dimples

    I think Ron Unz is looking at this like Putin. If you have responsibility to protect your people, you think in terms of balance of probabilities and the level of danger if the worst interpretation is correct. Fortunately, we have no such responsibility. I think Ron Unz is probably drawing the wrong conclusion but I remain very suspicious. [email protected]

  245. lavoisier says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Anyone who claims they are 100% sure of something they have not seen themself is a liar.

    Marco Rubio is paid to lie. He is a professional liar–like most of the whores in congress.

  246. gatobart says:
    @Miro23

    Putin is an idiot. The day is not far away when everyone will see it. Maybe Russia will finally obtain what they are looking for, what they have been looking for since the end of the Cold War, respect and security in her borders, but they won’t thank him for that. His disastrous foreign policy (“my first F.P. priority is to have good relations with the U.S.”) will ensure that the verdict of mankind and History will be extremely harsh on him. It was his failure time after time in asserting the role Russia must have in the world, if only because of her imposing nuclear arsenal, that has brought the world to the present situation. Forgetting the lessons of October 1962, he engaged instead in the brainless pursuit of a pipe dream of him, that the West “liked him”. That is why he never stopped pleasing, appeasing and beseeching the US NATO gang while these last laughed in his face and kept inflicting him slap after slap. He finally exploded, as only the weak can do, overreacting and doing something so stupid that even his Israeli pals must have told him he couldn’t do under no circumstance: to invade a country. “Look as us, we are incredibly more powerful than the Lebanese, astronomically more powerful than the Palestinians of Gaza…YET NOT EVEN WE CAN CONTROL THEIR SMALL PIECES OF LAND…! IF YOU HAVE A BEEF, BOMB, DON’T INVADE. But he wouldn’t listen. It boggles the mind.

    As I said, Russia will most likely reclaim a position of respect due to her mere quality of being a nuclear superpower but that won’t be attributed to Vladimir Putin. To him his own people will attribute the blunders, the mistakes, the thousands of Russian dead in Ukraine, numbers that if not reached already they will probable be attained in the near future and that will follow him for the rest of his life. For the outside world he will be just another war criminal, another political fraud at a world scale, the propaganda of the West he loved so much until not long ago will make sure of that. And if you don’t like what I say it, bummer, because that is what History will say of him, even Russian History. I know because I predicted all this a decade ago.

    • Troll: Olivier1973
  247. bert33 says:

    Big Medicine has gotten BIG, god-power frankenstein megalomania big, big enough to go into politics and facilitate itself and big enough to contain neonazi elements still working on their final solution so zey can finally kill ze choos. Or maybe that’s a put-on,, and zey are ze choos and they’re going to use their multibillion-dollar mega-medical godpower machine to kill everyone else. Something like zet.

    Anyway, it’ll be a great day when the WHO and NIH and NSAID and CDC and the rest of these politial quack factories get shut down and Fauci gets his pension yanked and goes big house ’til he dies. Money is power, lots of money in sick people.(see: Medicare fraudbillions)

    • Replies: @Spanky
  248. @Ron Unz

    James Corbett usually does thorough work.

    But in this overview of bioweapons research and use

    (h/t Athens) https://www.unz.com/announcement/ukraine-and-biowarfare-conspiracy-theories/#comment-5225356

    https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-111-a-brief-history-of-biowarfare/

    he and his interviewee fail to mention Japan and Unit 731; brain-fogged, perhaps, by Nazi-Derangement-Syndrome: Corbett and guest claim that Nazi chemical industries — I G Farben, precursor to Bayer & others — that were weaponized in WWII formed the basis of US bioweapons usage.

    Recently Matthew Ehret interviewed Jeff J Brown,



    Video Link
    inspired by Brown’s brief video,
    Is Russia In Ukraine Because of the USA’s 13 – plus Exclusive Use Weapons-of-Mass-Destruction Germ Warfare Laboratories There?
    https://chinarising.puntopress.com/2022/02/28/is-russia-in-ukraine-because-of-the-usas-13-plus-exclusive-use-wmd-germ-warfare-laboratories-there-not-to-mention-ukie-nazis-killing-10000s-of-their-own-citizens-for-the-last-eight-years-c/

    According to Brown, after Germany used chemical weapons in WWI, the French and British took up the use of biological-chemical agents in warfare in the inter-war period and in WWII. The Third Reich did not use chemical-biological weapons against Allies in warfare, but the Japanese used those agents against Chinese, killing hundreds of thousands of Chinese in “horrendous” ways.

    It was Japanese chemical-biological weapons experts from “Unit 731” that formed the core of US bioweapons research and use, centered at Fort Derrick, Maryland, in collaboration with nearby Biomedical Research Laboratory (BRL) at Walter Reed Medical facility; the Pentagon; and National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, MD.

    In his video, Brown mentions us chemical warfare facility at Dugway in Utah.
    FDR ordered the acquisition of those lands before USA was engaged in war with Germany, on the belief/fear that “Nazis” would use chemical-biological weapons (CBW) in a future war. However, in a manner similar to Iran in its war with Iraq, the Third Reich did not use CBW.

    The US facility at Dugway was used to develop means of creating aerial firestorms targeting German civilians in their homes — (see US Department of Interior HISTORIC AMERICAN ENGINEERING RECORD (HAER),
    DUGWAY PROVING GROUND, GERMAN-JAPANESE VILLAGE, GERMAN
    VILLAGE

    http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/habshaer/ut/ut0500/ut0568/data/ut0568data.pdf )

    • Thanks: Sarah
  249. @RobinG

    Are you asking me to fact-check my own writing, in which the source was stated?

    The link accesses the video as well as a (machine) transcript.

    The statement you highlighted is my paraphrase/summation — but not “interpretation” — of a series of arguments Engel made, including quotations of corroborating comments by James Baker, Larry Eagleburger and Brent Scowcroft, all of whom urged Bush to wage war on Iraq to “seize the moment” — the unique unipolar moment to “demonstrate that US could still lead.”

    I think this moment, G H W Bush’s decision to take USA to war against Saddam in the early 1990s, was a pivotal moment and decision that balefully marked the path USA has taken over the subsequent 30 years. Pat Lang claims that the war was “necessary” and that “Arabs requested US aid” in expelling Saddam from Kuwait, but
    1. As Engel stated, Bush did not go to war to “liberate Kuwait”;
    2. Gorbachev pleaded with Bush not to go to war;
    and most significantly,
    3. the King of Jordan worked long and hard, together with his American advisor, to resolve the conflict “within and among Arab leaders.” He also pleaded with Bush to stay out of the affair and to let Arabs handle it, but Bush had another agenda in mind: he was intent on taking control of the “New World Order.”

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Spanky
  250. @gatobart

    I sympathize with your argument. But in defense of the Vlad, remember about 20 years ago he said (paraphrase), “We need 20 years of peace to catch up.” Well, it’s been 20 years. No more Mr Nice Guy. Russia has hypersonic weapons, SU-35’s, EW, S-400’s. Meanwhile, half the jets in the German Air Force are out of service for lack of parts, and their pilots don’t fly enough to maintain proficiency. The US now has F-35’s which are probably combat ineffective due to corruption and graft. The new US aircraft carriers have a catapult which can’t launch fully-loaded planes. 2014 and 2022 are different worlds.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  251. anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:

    Anent rogue operation. The adjective basically means deviant. And nothing about banned biological weapons deviates from postwar US policy. The US has continually developed banned biological weapons, even after making making a binding commitment to refrain in the BWTC, and executing that commitment in BWATA with criminal penalties of any term of years.

    So the operation isn’t rogue at all. Instead this instance of germ warfare turns out to be a routine function of a rogue state. But we can be a bit more precise here too. From the UN member nations’ point of view, the problem is impunity. One US agency, CIA, is granted impunity in municipal law, regulation, judicial doctrine, and sub rosa administrative arrangements. This makes CIA the civil/military command structure of the US, because they can kill or torture anyone and get away with it.

    This is not a conspiracy. When you have impunity you don’t need to conspire, you just go ahead and do whatever the fuck you want, and kill whoever doesn’t like it. Like in ’63 with JFK. This is not a theory. This is overwhelming probative documentary evidence. CIA impunity is written into US law and regulation. Have you looked at any of it? It’s been there in black and white since 1947, accreting all the time. The National Security Act, the Central Intelligence Agency Act, The Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the operational files exemption, the political questions doctrine, the state secrets privilege, the utmost deference doctrine, the deference upon deference doctrine, FASAB Standard 56, NSC 10/2, the National Security Directive of December 19, 1947, the Rogers-Huston memo et seq.

    CIA is an impunity regime with atavistic absolute sovereignty. In the modern world sovereignty is responsibility. CIA’s impunity is the archaic sovereignty of a Bronze Age potentate whose acts do not merely break law, they negate law. By acting to negate jus cogens, CIA becomes hostis humani generis, enemy of all mankind. Enemy of us. Enemy of them. Law-abiding US citizens are with Russia, China, Iraq, Venezuela, Hezbollah, and all the UN member nations against CIA.

    • Replies: @orchardist
  252. @TG

    Agree completely! Why are we still doing this crazy stuff? Is it because the Russians, Chinese and probably the North Koreans and who knows how many others are doing the same thing?

    • Replies: @Spanky
  253. anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    Today’s UNSC session (don’t trust them to tell you what was said)

    https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16nsx50dm

    Everybody gets a turn but Russia and Brazil are keeping everybody’s eyes on the CIA germ warfare ball.

  254. JWalters says:
    @TG

    Col. Fletcher Prouty explained that the CIA keeps supplies of weapons (and other potentially useful gear) stashed all around the world to have it quickly available almost anywhere. That could be why bioweapons labs are everywhere. They may be more for deployment than for research and development.

    Here’s Prouty’s book on the CIA.
    The Secret Team
    http://www.bilderberg.org/st/

  255. @Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosque

    Can these posters . . . The Jews-did-it-ers . . .please find something else to do?

    Baptize Torie Nuland?


    Speaking of Nuland: iirc in the infamous 2014 leaked phone call, she mentioned the assistance of “Jeff Feltman at UN.”

    Wasn’t Feltman Hillary Clinton’s boy when Arab Spring sprung?

    Earlier, Feltman indicted Iran for its violations of “religious rights” at a hearing before a US State Department Commission on International Human Rights. At that time, State, likely with Feltman’s assistance, was funneling funds to subversive “NGOs” in Iran. In his complaints about Iranian repression, he coyly declined to name the NGOs “for their own protection.”

    Feltman was subsequently named to a UN position by Ban Ki Moon, a move that Shibli Telhami protested on this basis:

    “On one issue Feltman is remarkably consistent. When it comes to the Middle East, Feltman has been outspoken about the threats posed by Iran in the region. Whether in Beirut or Manama, he has publically denounced Iranian “interference” outside its own boundaries. At the same time, Feltman has generously offered US assistance to these same regimes. In other words, US interference is quite acceptable, but Iranian interference is utterly unacceptable. This might be adequate behavior for the diplomat of a country, but it is hardly the temperament for a senior UN official. It raises doubts about Feltman’s ability to be even-handed in his deliberations as a steward of the world’s political dilemmas.”

    https://www.jadaliyya.com/Details/26062

    Telhami put his finger on a deeply embedded American pattern of behavior.
    Not sure if Feltman was ever baptized, but he did attend Sidwell Friends School.

    So maybe bashing Iran is an all-American sport, one that is not constrained to the “Jews-did-it” category?
    But BEFORE zionism, USA and Iran were reasonably friendly.

  256. JWalters says:
    @Anonymous

    Zelensky is a puppet of Zionist oligarchy Igor Kolomoyski, who bankrolled his TV show and presidential campaign. The TV show was, of course, part of the presidential campaign.

  257. JWalters says:
    @Notsofast

    And her fingers were really giving that pen a workover. A lot of inner agitation leaking out.

  258. anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    The minutes (as bowdlerized by US spooks infesting PA:)

    https://www.un.org/press/en/2022/sc14827.doc.htm

  259. The solution isn’t to fire this rich lady, Ivy-educated, neocon, government bureaucrat and replace her with someone poor, male, State U’d, paleocon, or whatever. It’s to fire them ALL, and NOT replace them. Less government.

    Likewise, public education CANNOT be reformed. It needs to be abolished.

  260. Seraphim says:

    One may wonder why people ask who is behind the ‘bioweapon labs’ and all that, when we know the answer for a quarter of a century already.
    ”advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool” was stated as a goal by the “PNAC”. The authors of the Project were not hiding at all:
    Donald Kagan, Robert Kagan, Frederick Kagan. It’s a family affair, that’s why ‘Vicki’ F**k EU’ is a bit agitated at the ‘conspiracy theory’ launched by the Russians. And perhaps why all reports of the war in Ukraine come from the ”Institute for the Study of War” of the suave wife of Freddie, Kimberly.

    • Agree: Miro23
  261. gatobart says:
    @Sparkylyle92

    I would heartedly agree with you but it happens also that we live in what we call the real world and the world rarely has with the kindness of presenting us with our hardest challenges when we are ready. The world doesn’t wait for us, as simple as that. That is why I mentioned the example of Nikita Khrushchev during the October Crisis. At the time it was widely recognized that the U.S. had over the Soviet Union at least a five-fold strategic superiority. I think it is even mentioned in the movie Doctor Strangelove. Kennedy himself had said once that the U.S. had the power to destroy the USSR many times over, to which Khrushchev reportedly answered that the USSR had the power to obliterate the U.S. just once but that was enough, why more. So, in raw military and strategic power the Soviet Union was no match for the U.S. but the thought of having their main cities flattened and tens of millions of Americans dead was more than what the members of the Kennedy administration could bear to imagine even if the losses for the URSS could have been ten time worse. When it comes to that, we all know that war among them means nowadays the end of all, not a series of battles and campaigns that may lead to final victory. The point is also, as I said, you have to fight your battles when they come and Putin had that chance in Syria, where he could have done in all legality what the U.S. had done installing missiles in Japan, or Turkey, or Western Europe. But he didn’t do it and he didn’t do it again when Yanukovich was begging for military aid in the winter of 2014 as he was basking in the limelight of Sochi under the adoring eyes of his Western audience (or so he thought). The man was sacrificing Ukraine in the pursuit of a fantasy and here is the result.

    Also, even if I wanted to believe in that “They weren’t ready” excuse, I still find it hard to believe it, as for an entire decade of arguing with people backing Putin’s foreign policy towards NATO, some of them even Russians, THEY NEVER CAME UP WITH SUCH AN ARGUMENT. The most usual argument from them, I mean the unique, is that I was living in past times, that I still believed that we lived in the Cold War and that all that was a thing of the past, “nowadays we live in a globalized world, Russia and Europe and the U.S. have common interests so there is no need for one of them being nasty to the other(s)”. There was absolutely no talk from them of any Russian strategic or military inferiority at the time. I’d even say Russian fans of Putin showed me exceedingly clear the roots of the problem and, like one Saker commentator wrote so well, the vast tide of hatred and Russophobia running all over the “West” should be enough to wake up all these naïve people from their insane fantasies. I wonder what will they be thinking now, those Russians who were even accusing me of warmongering during that time, when I wrote that Putin should stop sucking up to the West and put his pants.

  262. sally says:
    @MarkU

    Its important to think about the system that allows politics to be used to divide the people of the world in to controllable groups, so a few can rule sum of the masses. The system is known as the nation state system.. It consist of 256 different nation states; all under the control of a very few global interacting families that have for centuries profited by dividing the world up and stuffing the human population of the world into one of the 256 different crucibles. Once in the crucible the humans are individually molded into hate groups<= within those crucibles and between those crucibles. The ruling few, use politics, rule of law, armed force and invented propaganda and reward for obedient performance to mold the inhabitants into hate groups. (these crucibles are known as nation states) which are famous for dividing the minds of the common folks in both domestic crucibles and in groups of nations states linked together by a common cause.

    The crucible is totally controlled information environment. to mold the inhabitants: politics, economics, culture, wealth, etc. are used.
    Subversion and false flags are often used to start wars or to intensify the hate.

    Never before have so many been privileged to sufficient quantities of mixed nation information that is available today, so many more now understand that the action by Russia in Ukraine was forced on Russia by Nation state planned and executed means. Yesterdays post by Whitney Webb outlined it all. That article puts Nobel prizes to shame, in my book because it contains the details of how this Ukraine crisis was engineered and explains exactly who the 16000 fighters said to be admitted to Ukraine actually are most likely to be.

    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/ukraine-and-the-new-al-qaeda/

  263. anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Black shows how grown-ups think this through.

    https://journal-neo.org/2022/03/08/the-legality-of-war/

    Brainwashed dimbulbs like Sean Penn, NPR ladies, NYT dupes, and MSNBC zombies have never ever heard of any of this absolutely basic ABC-123 stuff. US media audiences are ignoramuses standardized to microscopic MILSPEC tolerances.

  264. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Yup, I’m asking you to check yourself…. and you did put that “paraphrase” in quotations. And I know what the link is, I used it, and my understanding was not like yours, which is why I assert that was your interpretation, not Engel’s argument.

    As it happens, I’ve long believed that the US intention was war before Saddam even crossed the border, that they [“we”] lured him in. But your video, that presentation, gave me pause. The fact that GHWB took 5 days to make a public response, that so many of his advisors claim they used forceful argument to persuade him to use war…. I’m not saying it convinced me, but it tempered my conviction somewhat.

  265. Spanky says:
    @bert33

    Money is power, lots of money in sick people.(see: Medicare fraudbillions) — bert33

    Was a sitting Republican senator from Florida involved in healthcare fraud?

    In the 1990s, [Rick] Scott was the CEO of Columbia/HCA, a company that, under his direction, owned more than 340 hospitals, 135 surgery centers, and 550 home-health locations by the time Scott resigned in 1997. That year, federal agents announced an investigation into whether or not the company defrauded Medicare and Medicaid on a massive scale. Turns out, they did: According to Politifact’s summary of the settlement Columbia/HCA made with the Justice Department, the company took the following actions while Scott was CEO:

    *Columbia billed Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal programs for tests that were not necessary or ordered by physicians;

    *The company attached false diagnosis codes to patient records to increase reimbursement to the hospitals;

    *The company illegally claimed non-reimbursable marketing and advertising costs as community education;

    *Columbia billed the government for home health-care visits for patients who did not qualify to receive them.

    As part of the settlement, Columbia/HCA agreed to plead guilty to 14 corporate felonies — charges that involve financial penalties, but no jail time. (Corporations are people, but they cannot be sent to prison.) Over two settlement rounds, Columbia/HCA wound up paying the government \$1.7 billion in criminal fines, civil damages, and penalties, in what the Justice Department called “the largest health-care fraud case in U.S. history.

    Excerpt from:

    https://hcahealthcare.com/about/newsroom/rick-scott-s-company-committed-historic-medicare-fraud-he-will-now-lead-trump-s-health-care-push

    See also:

    Gov. Rick Scott took responsibility? No, he took \$300 million — Randy Schultz, The Sun-Sentinel

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/fl-op-col-rick-scott-medicare-fraud-20181002-story.html

    The Honorable Rick Scott

  266. Spanky says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    G H W Bush’s decision to take USA to war against Saddam in the early 1990s, was a pivotal moment and decision that balefully marked the path USA has taken over the subsequent 30 years. — SolontoCroesus

    We agree. For many years I watched Putin closely, and suspiciously, for the same reason I initially opposed GHW Bush… intelligence agents ought not be in politics. The sole reason I voted for Clinton in 1992 was Bush’s apparent NOC (Zapata Petroleum) and his later overt position as DCI.

    But, despite my misgivings, over the years I have come to grudgingly respect Putin, while my contempt for Bush (and Shrub) has only deepened.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  267. @anonymous

    Regardless of ones ideological or other persuasions, we should all hope that Russia “wins” this battle, for, in the Grande Scheme, if Russia loses, all of humanity stands to lose as well; – as, a loss in Ukraine will be seen by the US/CIA/Deep State/Five Eyes/NATO/EU/et al as a Carte Blanche approval/avenue to decimate and control ALL 9 Billion humans, everywhere, without moral compunction or hesitation.

    The Pendulum-of-Power has swung too far in the Deep State’s favor, and for too long (since at least 1913 – and maybe since 1694). Universal individual liberty and freedom is on the line. Russia today, may be the only counterpoise remaining to keep the Deep State from self-immolating and taking the rest of humanity with it.

    This current War event MAY be the Turning Point in the history of human existence – if Russia loses

  268. Yep. Ain’t looking so good. Seems your theory is confirmed as is mine.

  269. Ron Unz says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Given that COVID originated from a US biolab, intended to bring harm to China and Iran in particular, how exactly did the end results backfire so drastically? For the most part, China and Iran (excepting of course many within their leadership) have largely escaped the worst of COVID, while the rest of the world, including the US, the infections and death rates have been near cataclysmic levels, unseen since the Spanish Flu of WW1?

    Iran hardly escaped severe damage from the Covid outbreak, officially having almost 140K deaths, and probably a much higher true number. Since Covid is so extremely age-skewed and Iran’s population is much younger than that of Europe or America, it wasn’t hit quite as hard, but that’s about the only reason.

    China has one of the world’s most competent governments and it immediately implemented an extreme public-health lockdown 1000x larger than the largest in history, totally stamping out the disease, which is why it emerged almost unscathed.

    As I’ve repeatedly emphasized, SARS and MERS never significantly leaked into America, so the group that released Covid assumed we’d avoid this virus as well. In late 2019, international public health organizations ranked America as #1 in the world in coping with any disease outbreak:

    In addition, our top biowarfare expert, Robert Kadlec, ran the “Crimson Contagion” exercise from January to August 2019, drilling federal and state officials on how to protect America from infection by any dangerous respiratory virus that might hypothetically appear in China…which is exactly what happened a few weeks after the end of the exercise!

    I’ve repeatedly outlined the scenario in detail. Remember, I’m arguing it was likely a rogue operation orchestrated by a small group of Trump officials, rather than something that went through endless Pentagon bureaucratic planning sessions, so the risks were improperly assessed.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-george-orwells-virus-lab-leak/#outline-of-the-hypothetical-biowarfare-attack-scenario

    Under my reconstruction, the Covid outbreak is not only the worst blowback in history, but it’s probably worse than every other blowback combined, given a million American deaths and probably about 20M worldwide, but with China almost totally escaping.

    By purest coincidence, here’s a sentence I wrote in a totally unrelated January 27, 2020 article, published before I was even paying much attention to the Wuhan outbreak:

    National militaries have always been nervous about deploying biological weapons, knowing full well that once released, the deadly microbes might easily spread back across the border and inflict great suffering upon the civilians of the country that deployed them.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-mossad-assassinations/#rise-and-kill-first

    • Thanks: Charles
    • Replies: @Spanky
    , @Kiza
    , @Dumbo
  270. @MLK

    Someone at work was talking about his visit to Auschwitz and another coworker joined in. They saw everything: gas chambers, crematorium, piles of shoes and hair. They kept saying “unbelievable”, as in “They showed us where the babies were shot. It was unbelievable.” I wanted to ask them “Did you believe it?”, but the conversation was already extremely weird. I let the moment pass. Between them, they must have said it 30 times.

    When the first WTC tower fell straight down, I thought “That’s very strange.” When the second one did the same, I thought “That’s impossible.” I could believe it fell straight down, but I couldn’t believe planes could fly in, not knock the towers down, and then the towers collapse later, straight down. Unbelievable!

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  271. Alfred says:

    the situation drastically changed on Tuesday, due to the Congressional testimony of Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, chief architect of our Ukraine policy.

    The situation has not changed. Only your perception of the situation has changed. It took a confession by an arch Neocon to convince you. But when have Neocons told us the truth about their activities?

    When can we look forward to your perception of the fake vaccines catch up with reality?

    Dr. John Campbell was also a “believer” until recently. Peoples’ trust in his judgement led many people to take these injections. Better late than never I suppose. 🙁

    Long list of side effects to look out for

    • Agree: Olivier1973
  272. Charles says:
    @Realist

    Mark’s questions are self-explanatory. ”Criminally insane” is on the curricula vitae of anyone who gets a job in government. As to “how they would test” such a virus…good grief Mark, if it kills people, fine. If not, tweak it so that it does.

    • Thanks: Realist
  273. Spanky says:
    @Phantom101

    Why are we still doing this crazy stuff? — Phantom101

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Are we doing it because they’re doing it, or are they doing it because we’re doing it?

    Any halfway decent foreign intelligence service knows the USG has many biolabs pursuing dual use biotech all over the world… Do you think the Russians didn’t know about the USG’s Ukrainian biolabs and just stumbled upon them? Oh gosh, what have we here, Ivan?

    The point of locating USG biolabs all over the world is two-fold.

    First, plausible deniability should something go wrong (or an attack be launched). If the biolab were in the U.S., and a leak occurred, it could affect American citizens. It might become impossible to plausibly deny. But if a biolab leak (or attack disguised as a leak) occurred in, say, Ukraine or China… Well, they brought that upon themselves dontcha know.

    The second is local conditions and pathogens non-native to the U.S. Who knows what new diseases and infection vectors we might find to exploit for fun and world domination. And that’s the point — world domination. Neocons and neoliberals fully agree on that one point — both want a world empire. The New World Order. The Great Reset. Call it whatever you like, and blame your favorite villain.

    Open warfare is destructive, and a war between nuclear-armed powers will escalate — not so good from a material destruction and poisoning large swaths of land for hundreds, if not thousands, of years standpoint. And chemical weapons? Limited dispersal area — a decent tactical weapon under the right circumstances, but not strategic.

    However, a biological weapon… especially if it could be targeted genetically? Jackpot!

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  274. Charles says:
    @elmerfudzie

    There is much knowledge in books from decades past, and it is often the kind that is memory-holed these days. An excellent example is Advance to Barbarism, the updated 1968 version, by the late F.J.P. Veale

    • Replies: @elmerfudzie
  275. Spanky says:
    @Ron Unz

    China has one of the world’s most competent governments and it immediately implemented an extreme public-health lockdown 1000x larger than the largest in history, totally stamping out the disease, which is why it emerged almost unscathed. — Ron Unz

    COVID has re-emerged in China and a city of nine million is locked down, again. It seems like every time China declares a COVID all clear and ends lockdowns, it suddenly flares up again, triggering more lockdowns.

    Could it be that an unknown actor is re-introducing COVID to deliberately trigger those lockdowns as an economic disruptor by using China’s own public health system against it?

    • Replies: @Realist
  276. Charles says:

    ”Unbelievable” is a perfect summation regarding all the assertions of Holocaust stories.

  277. Kiza says:
    @Anon

    I really loved the first video you posted – produced by the US Embassy in Kiev. What this video shows is that the US wants to hide its biowarfare labs in plain site. This is what the PR experts have obviously suggested – do not try to hide that these laboratories exist, just keep claiming/lying that they help humanity and that they are open to anyone to see the research. In the video, the US liars even claimed that they are open to the Russian inspection and that Russians refused to visit when offered. This kind of PR spinning and blatant lying is the new normal in the West – used on both the domestic populace and in the UN and everywhere else. Backed up by professional PR production, just state a blatant lie from a mountain of self confidence. Keep repeating the lie even when someone presents to you a clear proof that you were lying, never respond to information brought in front of you, just ignore it and continue repeating your original statement. I believe that most mid-to-high level US functioniers, especially the diplomats, receive such PR training.

    This approach to public relations is one of the reasons that Putin called the West “the empire of lies”.

    We have a bit of a conflict of opinions here whether Victoria Nuland revealed the activity in the labs in Ukraine deliberately or by own stupidity. Based on what I described above I conclude that it was a combination of the two. She stated that the US bio laboratories exist, which was consistent with the long term US PR, but then messed up by adding a sentence that what has been done in these labs must not fall into the Russian hands. Ooops. Delivered separately, these two points would have passed any PR expert. But delivered so close together, they incidentally revealed this strategy of the US denial: hiding illegal things in plain site.

    Just a bad day in Kaganistan.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  278. Kiza says:
    @Ron Unz

    This scenario of yours is possible, even probable. However, I believe that you are onto only a part of the whole story.

    To start, let me explain why your scenario is probable – because it has a lot if similarity with the STUXNET case study. In brief, virtually all industrial control is currently based on something called Programable Logic Controller (PLC), a highly functional combination of relatively simple electronic hardware and software. This area is dominated by German industrial giant Siemens. Israel and US developed a software virus for PLCs in order to damage the Iranian nuclear centrifuges purifying Uranium. It was truly impossible to assume that the damage would not spread around the World, to all kinds of industrial/manufacturing plants and power stations. Yet, they did not inform Siemens of this secret plan, which could have significantly reduced the damage outside of Iran because Siemens could have produced a patch before so many expensive machines ran out of control and got seriously damaged.

    Therefore, those in the West who have warfare on their mind do things regardless of their wider impact, not because “there was not enough vetting in a small group which approved it”. Nobody is that stupid, no matter how small the group is. Rather, the individuals in the “small group” will try to use their privileged knowledge on what is about to transpire to make profit – the stock trades before 911 are an excellent example.

    Finally, it is my opinion that if the Covid virus was designed and released by US++ individuals, it was not the greatest blowback in history as you call it. As I stated above, the software patch in biology is the vaccine. If deliberate as per your probable theory, the virus and the vaccine were planned/prepared together. My proof for this is that in Australia, the alternative life saving treatment HCQ was officially banned for use against Covid as early as April 2020, which was only about two months after Covid appeared in Australia. This is clear proof that the “vaccine” was almost ready when the virus was released, just needed almost a year to pass through some formalities under EUA at warp. The second proof is that it appears that the Covid virus contains a genetic sequence patented by Moderna in 2016 for their future anti-cancer mRNA vaccine, a one in two trillion chance of natural occurrence.

    It has been a traditional suspicion in the computer world that anti-computer-virus companies are the major, although not the only, developers of computer viruses to create a need for their products. Why would the same be beyond what the pharma companies would do?

    Someone could say that it is stupid to compare computer science and bio warfare. Yes, they are quite different, but the common denominator is the human behaviour which tends to be very similar in every discipline.

    In summary, I am prepared to accept your theory of deliberate release but without the “accidental blowback” part. Sorry for such cynicism, but one man’s misfortune is often another men’s opportunity. There was a plan to earn godzillions of dollars from this virus and possibly even to establish the New World Order on both the psychotically scared and the beaten to compliance population.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  279. GMC says:
    @Athena

    Thanks Athena, It was pretty easy to see the correlation between the Globalists stealing the Ukie Breadbasket and the involvement in BioWeapons Labs. After all, regime changes and/or a country that gets bought off – we can be assured that BioWeapons labs are on the schedule.

  280. Levtraro says:
    @Badger Down

    I was talking about ethnic-specific bioweapons. Inefficient means it doesn’t find the enemy’s ethnicity well enough and catastrophically inefficient means it doesn’t find the enemy’s ethnicity well enough and in addition it hurts agressor’s ethnicity to a significant degree.

  281. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    And if you don’t like what I say it, bummer, because that is what History will say of him, even Russian History. I know because I predicted all this a decade ago.

    Clearly you can predict the future with great certainty.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  282. Levtraro says:
    @Realist

    Not being silly. Humans are diverging into separate species but today, with a few hundred thousand years of evolution it’s just technically impossible to make ethnically specific bioweapons (as asserted by MarkU in #34).

    Not that it cannot be tried by people thinking like you on this matter but if military biologists have convinced planners to give them money to conduct such research and then they try it in the real world, something like Ron Unz’s hypothesis for the origin of COVID-19 will happen, i.e. a complete miss and a serious blowback.

    • Replies: @Realist
  283. While slightly off-topic, I’m sure everyone will appreciate this important viewpoint:
    https://southfront.org/keep-fit-cola-and-mcd-leaving-russia-while-petrol-and-gas-wandering-away-18/
    You’re welcome.

  284. meamjojo says:
    @Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosque

    Every article posted here – every single one- has a number of folks claiming the Jews did it what’ever’n’hell it is or was.

    The Jews-did-it-ers are implacable and they seem to exist just to post that claim.

    Can these posters please find something else to do?

    Probably 60% of UNZ is populated by white supremacists. It’s why the site will never be accepted by the mainstream reader.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  285. @gatobart

    Worried about being starved by your own sanctions? What does the West have that is essential for life, security, industry, agriculture, construction that Russia doesn’t? You’ve got it into your head that you are something, that you have something, when you have nothing. Even your money is unreal without any underlying gold base, your economy is based on massive debt, your concept of life and reality is based on media lies, and you feel entitled to judge what Russia is, has, will be. You’ve got it all backwards. Laughable. Bring on a new Iron Curtain, nay Curtain of Steel, and keep your Eastern European satellites parasiting off what little you have and which is diminishing rapidly. You have “freedom”, no? Good luck with that.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  286. @Badger Down

    Then 7 fell and Fire Chief on the air stated (once and only interview)We decided to Pull it (as in demolition) and later —-BBC knew about Building 7 collapsing 45 minutes earlier —–those news networks know ALL prior to it happening—- 

  287. @Desert Fox

    Victoria Nuland and the rest of the zionist kabal have the blood of this war on their hands, they caused it with their coup in kiev in 2014…

    It is truly amazing, that some would still cling to a completely false narrative that I have discredited in detail multiple times. There was no coup and Nuland would not have even been in the position to orchestrate one. (See my list of phony propaganda claims in message #93, above.) In the following paragraphs I will provide additional context.

    My position has been that Nuland is a typically incompetent bureaucrat. She was clearly not in control of events in early 2014 and was merely trying to catch up. Mentioning that “Yats” was the most competent among the opposition leaders in her tapped conversation was merely stating what was obvious to anyone (duh). She was unable to get the UN involved in mediation efforts that led to the February 21, 2014 agreement between the president (who fled the country hours later) and three opposition members. Instead, it was Germany, France, Poland, and Russia who played that role. Any attempted intercession on her part was apparently deemed unnecessary. If she or the US wanted to play a role in that endeavor, then she was outmaneuvered by the EU. This puts her earlier “Fuck-the-EU” comment into perspective, especially because the mass demonstrations at Kiev’s Maidan Plaza, which began in November 2013, were about the desire for closer relations with the EU.

    Let’s look closer at Nuland’s background for possible insights. Technically speaking, according to Israeli rabbinical tradition, she is not even a Jewess. Her father was a surgeon, born of Ukrainian Jewish parents in the Bronx, and later taught at Yale. She was essentially a spoiled brat, likely not very bright. According to Wikipedia, she got a bachelor’s degree from Brown University, including in political “science” (also referred to as a Mickey Mouse degree), nothing beyond that. For reference, Brown is not known for its academic reputation; it does not even rank among the the top 100 universities in the authoritative Shanghai Ranking of international institutions.

    http://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2021

    Like Dartmouth, Brown is basically known as an expensive “party school” for spoiled kids from the northeast. In view of her father’s influence, she could have surely attended more reputable universities with a more demanding curriculum if she had had the necessary intellect. One can infer that getting a nice job through nepotism is easier than getting into a demanding university. Now take a look at the picture of Nuland at the top of this page. If I could not hear her voice, I would not be able to tell if that person were a man, or a woman, or a male-to-female tranny, or a female-to-male tranny. This does not appear to be the kind of person whose earlier career might have been facilitated by good looks or sex-appeal.

    What makes anyone think somebody like that would ever be capable of orchestrating an actual coup from her desk in Washington DC? Yet for some peculiar reason she is still being elevated to a Satanic and evil monster, with super-magical qualities. Instead, the person who truly has blood on his hands is the former president Yanukovych, the corrupt official who spent years in jail during his youth, who was responsible for the massacre of roughly a hundred demonstrators in the streets of Kiev on February 20, 2014, by security officials shooting from rooftops. This is likely why he fled the county less than two days later, leaving his villa, private zoo, and car collection behind. The propaganda myth would have us feel sorry or indignant that he was formally ousted by the parliament after his escape, with a huge majority – all under the command of Nuland, as it were.

    • Disagree: Badger Down
  288. Biff K says:
    @Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosque

    “Jews” is a non-specific term, possibly even incorrect usage when considering who exactly we are talking about.

    I use the term “Jewmafia.” or”J’mafia.” And they should too.

    It’s mafia-style corruption, in degree, but obviously today it’s not just Jews (or Sicilians), and it’s nothing new. Jews are a facet of this cabal, and they stand out for obvious reasons (there is an inordinate number of Jews in the club) and Jews have a longstanding reputation for crookedly running monetary stuff; they also own the propagandized media lock stock & barrel and many of them are power hungry and sneaky congenital liars. Their anglicized surnames no longer fool anybody. You don’t need the hook nose and fuzzy black hair, either. London’s Jews are largely straw blonde with broad heads normal noses, and typically very Anglicized surnames.

    They’re all “mafia” through & through and have a large number of WASP compatriates.

    I’ve known a lot of dagos and a lot of Jews. None of the ones I know are “mafia” except one dago relative who was a numbers runner 60 years ago. Each has its cultural ilk and they are different but they are obvious when involved in this (largely financial) game they are playing.

  289. @Badger Down

    The planing and execution of their (((plans))) resemble a looney toon episode more and more everyday.

    This is the rot that the kikes bring to a civilization. Truly the deadliest weapon ever deployed, the heebs and their golem.

  290. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for your reply, Ron Unz.
    Congratulations that your Covid-US Bioweapon is reaching a wider audience.
    Hopefully that will mean more visiting this site.

    With ref to your observations on Trump, Pompeo, Bolton etc, I believe that you are correct. In fact the situation seems to be that the “Deep State” is the de facto US govt.

    The President is a powerless figurehead, amply illustrated by Dodo Joe, also DJT was simply a fairground barker, firing up the populace with MAGA rhetoric, almost all of which turned out to be meaningless and even fraudulent bullshit. But he was very ready to serve Israel not just in word but also in deed (eg Gen Soleimani, Jerusalem).
    The remainder of the herd of “honorable” reps are just there to give the autocratic and murderous zio-masonic machine a semblance of legitimacy (which it in no wise possesses), keep their mouths shut and receive their pay-offs.

    This is western “democracy” and includes not just USA but all the “rotten boroughs” of NATO, 5-Eyes, EU and their (ex) colonial subsidiaries, Arab states like UAE, which is a dependency of Perfidious Albion etc. Arguably this latter (Square Mile) is the central mainstring of the global evil that is now reaching fever pitch after the earlier defeats & takeovers in USSR and National Socialist Germany.

    Both China and present day Russia are more responsive to their people than the monstrosity that is “western democracy” and people like Nuland.

  291. As response to being exposed the evil empire is now planning a chemical false flag (for the peoples of the RUS that is). The ee is very experienced in doing that. See Iraq, Syria, Germany…how many countries are on the planet? Which one has not been harmed by ee? (A: Israhell)
    https://www.pravda.ru/news/politics/1689715-ukraina_gotovit_khimataku/

  292. James1488 says:

    “potentially cataclysmic” So those DIA rogue elements were aware of the fact that the virus could have a planetary impact, yet still decided to unleash it.

    “All the facts are not yet in, but at this stage I think we should probably assume that the captured documents provided by the Russians are correct”.
    Also the Russian invasion of Ukraine is just a ”ridiculous hoax”.

  293. @Franz

    Victoria Nuland is a she and Lindsay Graham is a he but acts as a she and Bill Barr is daft.

  294. @Kiza

    I can’t criticise your preferring private financial profit as a motive for spreading Covid 19 because, a couple of years ago I threw it up as possibly alternative villainy to the rogues-in-the-Deep State version preferred by Ron. However, a relatively trivial point, I question your saying that HCQ “was officially banned for use in Australia against Covid 19 as early as April 2020”. By what act, regulation or other instrument was it banned – I.e. made it illegal to use it? And how do regard it as proof of anything to do with vaccines which were still months off even being selected, let alone ordered in the case of the mRNA vaccines?

    • Replies: @Kiza
  295. Tucker says:
    @Tucker

    Perhaps I was too quick to believe that the Rubio-Nuland exchange was real.

    Since I posted my original comment, I’ve seen some credible speculation that claimed that Rubio and Nuland rehearsed their little drama video and then performed it for the TV cameras as part of a sinister agenda to plant seeds in the sponge-like brains of low information Americans that could lead to a false flag operation using one or more of these pathogens and then try to blame it on Russia, which they would then use to snooker the American public into going along with the US going into a hot war with Russia.

    In other words, it is being speculated that Rubio knew what Nuland’s answers were going to be and only feigned being shocked and surprised, which then gave Nuland her opportunity to barf out her feigned concerns that the evil Russians would steal the pathogens (that were illegally developed due to US funding of those biological weapons labs ) and use them against the poor, hapless and childishly innocent (jewish infested) nation of Ukraine.

    This tactic is best described as planting the seeds in advance of a planned event in order to create in the minds of the audience you’re trying to snooker that the thing you are planning to do is necessary and justified.

    • Replies: @MGB
  296. Passby says:
    @TG

    Covid-19 came from Fort Detrick

    Covid-19 finding

    28 Summilux
    2 months ago
    Truth is here: Samantha Hill
    Sorry, we played an evil part in the outbreak of COVID-19

    [MORE]

    I am anonymous, I used to be an American, but I am more of an Indian. I learnt in the University of Manitoba and did some trivial work in the Fort Detrick Laboratory after graduation. My supervisor and I know almost
    everything about COVID-19, and that’s why he was killed. Now I came back to India. I gather myself up and decide to tell the truth, hoping I will still be alive when all of you learn the truth.
    The place I worked was quite mysterious and it is where many military biological weapons and chemical weapons are researched and developed, which is the highest level of confidentiality. Inferiors as me could only be qualified to serve the client company, but I still didn’t have the clearance for all the information about any single experiment.
    Gilead Sciences was my No.1 enterprise which I served most. They ever spread MERS in the Middle East so as to test the effects of a new medicine but dodge the federal restrictions. It has been an open secret that they had done experiments with GS-5734 on human being with any safety test, however, this is not what I mainly intend to say.
    My supervisor was Professor Frank Plummer who used to be the best friend of Professor Ralph S. Baric. Both of them had made great and significant achievements in bioscience which must be the power entitled by Lord Shiva, but unattainable for us. Professor Plummer was more conservative while Professor Baric was a science-maniac who usually did some highly-risky experiments. I did not understand until now that he probably did not do it out of his own will but was required to do so by Gilead Sciences Inc..
    Multiple experiments had been carried out after we learnt that the medicine with code of GS-5734, researched and developed by Gilead Sciences Inc., was quite effective against Ebola. This compound was probably a broadspectrum antiviral medicine and how it worked was quite special and different, thus we did experiments on a number of a single-stranded RNA viruses, including Lassa fever virus, Nipah virus, Hendra virus, coronavirus. Something special happened when we did experiments on coronavirus. It was not quite clear whether GS-5734 could effectively fight against MERS and SARS. In order to further the research, Adrian S. Ray and Richard L. Mackman from Gilead Sciences Inc. entrusted United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, CDC, University of North Carolina to do researches in different fields respectively, which are the places those papers online came from. The leaders of those projects were Sina Bavari (Therapeutic efficacy of the small molecule GS-5734 against Ebola virus in rhesus monkeys) (Warren, et al., 2016), Christina F. Spiropoulou (GS-5734 and its parent nucleoside analog inhibit Filo-, Pneumo-, and Paramyxoviruses) (Lo, et al., 2017), Ralph S. Baric (Broad-spectrum antiviral GS-5734 inhibits both epidemic and zoonotic coronaviruses) (Sheahan, et al., 2017). All the samples of SARS used in our experiments so far have come from the team led by Professor Baric since he is an expert of making SARS, publishing the paper Reverse genetics with a full-length infectious cDNA of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (Yount, et al., 2003), which means that he could have SARS virus duplicated without limits since then in 2003. He also offered fundings for Chinese Academy of Sciences for researches and made Zhengli-Li Shi the naive Snow White who helped him locate gene variation fragments for transforming SARS in Southern China.
    In fact, Zhengli-Li Shi has completed the task Professor Baric gave her since the gene fragment SHC014 she discovered in China was adopted by Professor Baric to synthesize into a new type of virus in the Fort Detrick Laboratory in 2015 which is the COVI D-19 today.
    That is a great experiment, and a huge progress we made in virusology and biology considering that the synthesis of RNA is unprecedent. Professor Plummer had been against this experiment, believing that it went against scientific ethics. However, Professor Baric and Gilead Sciences Inc. insisted that the synthesized virus could be taken as the reference for the original SARS in contrast experiment, and the essential subject for experiments on GS-5734.
    As far as I recall, artificially breeding new type of SARS should be a research and development project for developing biological weapons entrusted by Department of National Defense (DOD). However, Gilead Sciences Inc. also had their own secret plan that they would sell GS-5734 to all over the world at a very lucrative price once the virus is leaked and spreads.
    To clarify, the global widespread of COVI D-19 was not an intentional action done by Gilead Sciences Inc. or DOD but the consequence of an experimental leakage. In May, 2019, there was a leak in our experiment but we were not aware of it until villagers near labs in Maryland was infected, which was monitored by CDC in July 2019. It was too late when we found out that there were serious problems with the waste water treatment system in our lab.
    Those speculative facts circulating on the Internet are not totally accurate since the rampant influenza then in South America was not totally SARSII (COVI D-19) but two kinds of viruses spreading at the same time. The outpost labs located in various states did not run tests on the coronavirus due to the Interference of CDC.
    Based on the advice from Professor Baric, neither our lab nor the military and Gilead Sciences Inc. would admit the source of virus but we all tacitly referred to bats in Yunnan province in China as the source of the virus. This is possible based on the experiments and papers with Chinese scientists’ involvement having proved the gene variation in nature, and the stereo type that SARS-I originated from China.
    There were some controversial issues during the spread of COVID-19. In order to ensure the virus would not make irreversible damages, CDC initiated the EVENT201 drill with the assistance of CIA. Despite the
    unsatisfying performance, Professor Baric believed that SARS-II would not do huge damages to Caucasians in America due to the different distribution of ACE2 in different races. This is the reason why CIA finally decided to withhold the pre-warning of the spread of the virus.
    Professor Baric, Gilead Sciences Inc., BlackRock (a subcompany of Gilead Sciences for investment) and CDC are all the decision makers of the whole thing. All the members of the meeting were republicans and report to Office of American Innovation and Jared Kushner.
    Then, December in 2019 was the turning point when a sailor who continued to work after being infected by SARS-II, and happened to seal the virus into the package of seafood which was transported into seafood market in Wuhan, China through the illicit market. Unexpectedly, Chinese epidemic prevention departments found out the virus, which, could probably be thanks to their prevention experience of SARS. Otherwise, the viral pneumonia could have been treated as bacterial pneumonia and named as a new type influenza without triggering enough attention.
    After Chinese government found about SARS-II, my supervisor Professor Plummer was planning to share with Chinese scientific research institutions how GS-5734 could be adopted to fight against SARS-II, but he was assassinated when he was flying from Kenya to China. And I had to come back to India and hide since I got the news.
    As far as I know, some colleagues knowing the truth have been killed during the last few months and some others just disappeared. All the other practitioners bowing to Professor Baric do not dare to express their doubts without the permission of him. Once their doubts was proposed, their career will be over since no publications will accept their paper any longer.
    I have no idea how long I will live in this world and I feel so guilty deep down in my heart. I could not let so many lives gone even without being aware of the truth, so I make it known to the public and may Lord Shiva bless all of you. They would of course deny all of it, and even deny my identity or the existence of me. They will do whatever within their power to get me killed. So I would say goodbye right here. Farewell to all of you! I am so sorry!

  297. @Been_there_done_that

    Don’t you think the story of the alleged report was planted in America and Israel so Trump could be blamed for ignoring it. Come to think of it the concocting of the story of the report might have had the intended effect if Trump’s own words and overt behaviour hadn’t taken over.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  298. Ron Unz says:

    For those who can spare the time, here’s an excellent hour-long presentation by Glenn Greenwald on America’s biowarfare programs, and the Game-Playing Denials of Bio Labs in Ukraine by the White House:

    • Thanks: Robjil, lavoisier
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  299. @Been_there_done_that

    Now you’ve spoiled it for that 90% of UR threadsters who can get organsmically excited by the words “F**k the EU” – all they need to know about that call and Ms Nuland.

    • Agree: TaterSalad
  300. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Don’t you think the story of the alleged report was planted in America and Israel so Trump could be blamed for ignoring it. Come to think of it the concocting of the story of the report might have had the intended effect if Trump’s own words and overt behaviour hadn’t taken over.

    But, as usual, your “theory” doesn’t make any sense…

    You suggest that anti-Trump elements in American Intelligence fabricated the story about a secret DIA report, then planted it with both ABC News and Israeli TV. There’s ZERO supporting evidence, but let’s leave that aside for the moment.

    Since they were just inventing the report, they obviously would have dated it to late December, when the Covid outbreak in Wuhan was indeed “potentially cataclysmic” but before anyone in the West had become aware of it. People would readily believe that our Intelligence sources in China had discovered what was happening at that point, passed it on to Trump and then had the crucial report ignored.

    But instead, they dated the report to “the second week of November” before the outbreak had even begun. The report therefore proved American foreknowledge of the outbreak and if we had a functional MSM, would be on the front-page of the NYT. Since we don’t, I’m just about the only person in the world who’s been pointing that out.

    If they were just trying to embarrass Trump for his lack of action rather than trying to implicate America in the attack, why would they have picked November rather than December for the fictional report?

    • Replies: @Bumpkin
    , @Wizard of Oz
  301. @Ron Unz

    the evidence you mention either seemed pretty circumstantial to me or else possibly fabricated.

    The problem is that you have no evidence at all that it is fabricated.

    As for the “circumstancial evidence”, what about the origin of the sarscov-2 according to your publications?

    I am stil laughing at your theory of rogue elements within th USA. What about the avian and porcine flues? Also rogue elements? What about the ukies biolabs? Also rogue elements? And JFK? Also rogue elements?

  302. Che Guava says:
    @Ron Unz

    True, and thx. From my reading, it seems that 731’s post-Nomonha wartime activity was gruesome experiments (many bioagent related, many on human endurance of extreme conditions, many purely sadistic)and prophylaxis for our Imperial Army.

    As an amusing aside, 731 alumni were involved in some interesting cases domestically, too, one was a big bank robbery at threat of bioweapons, which at my last reading had never been resolved.

    Before I was born, have only seen monochrome shots of it.
    … but interersting.

    Finally, the man who was running the blood bank that was supposedly making haemophiliacs get HIV, GRIDs or whatever, was a unit 731 alumnus.

    I have no doubt, it was not intended, more interestingly, did any of the recipients of tainted blood die from what is clearly a disease made by very dirty and damaging habits?

    • Replies: @MGB
    , @Commentator Mike
  303. @Been_there_done_that

    Brown is not known for its academic reputation; it does not even rank among the the top 100 universities in the authoritative Shanghai Ranking of international institutions.

    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/brown-university.php

    Curtis Yarvin didn’t make the list. George Lincoln Rockwell did. For a random internet list they had a fair portion of hot chicks on it. It is definitely not a list of people with accomplishments. The only rich people I recognized on it were John Rockefeller Jr, Ted Turner, John Kennedy Jr. I forgot to look what city it is located in.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  304. Bumpkin says:
    @Ron Unz

    why would they have picked November rather than December for the fictional report?

    They are stupid and, as long as they’re just making up dates, chose to make it earlier to embarrass Trump more? You have to admit that as long as you don’t have the smoking gun of the report itself and some way to verify its actual release date, this is a worthwhile critique of your evidence, as these news agencies just make shit up all the time.

    So far all you have is a few news reports of the intelligence report, which is compelling evidence, but unfortunately not enough to close the case.

  305. @Jesus Evola

    And they have been trying to control China and they are getting close.

  306. @Emil Nikola Richard

    It is definitely not a list of people with accomplishments.

    Thank you for the laugh. Six of the top eight “Notable Alumni” choices in the link you provided are in the category of Film & Theater Personalities. It made me recall, a few years ago, when in the subway of a large European city (either Barcelona or Milan) I saw a guy with a T-shirt in big letters: BROWN. Some loud-mouth American who was uttering the word “like” a few times in every sentence; he certainly didn’t come across as intellectual. I think the term for that is still air-head.

  307. One thing thing that hasn’t been explored yet is how this changes the character of the Russian invasion.

    If these were bioweapon labs, then the Russian invasion goes from being probably illegal under international law, to probably legal under international law.

    It’s no longer of war of aggression.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  308. Realist says:
    @Levtraro

    …but if military biologists have convinced planners to give them money to conduct such research and then they try it in the real world, something like Ron Unz’s hypothesis for the origin of COVID-19 will happen, i.e. a complete miss and a serious blowback.

    It was not a complete miss at all. I do not know what the planner’s goal was, but those of the power structure were able to turn it into an opportunity to increase control over a large percent of the population.

  309. Art says:

    Hmm – why did the Jew Nuland make that unfriendly statement about the US government? What is Israel thinking? Things are going great for Israel right now. Peace is breaking out with the Arabs.

    The outcome of Nuland’s words will be worldwide shame being put on the US. Russia is currently in the same boat?

    Do the Jews have a genuine fear of a nuke war?

    Did Israel say that to forestall WWIII?

  310. @Charles

    Charles, as per your recommendation, I’ll have a look see. Here’s another one, Battling Wall Street by Donald Gibson circa 1994 – The Kennedy Presidency. After reading it, you won’t need Oliver Stone and his rants..

  311. @Ron Unz

    “Zero supporting evidence” is pretty close to what YOUR belief in the report has to support it.

    You choose to believe reports of a report because someone at ABC chose to run the story and for some reason and you thought the same story being given to an Israeli TV station added to its credibility. You can’t deny that there were plenty of people who might want to embarrass Trump with a story like that. There’s sufficient alternative motive to the one you suggest, whatever that is – embarrassed intelligence people desperate to tell the truth?

    So what’s the evidence against it?

    1. It was denied that it existed which has going for it that the report would most likely come to light one day by sub poena or FOIA request so there would have to positive reason to suppress knowledge of it in April 2000. Your rogue elements would have wanted it suppressed but is there any likelihood that they would have been in a position to suppress acknowledgement of it by the non rogues it had been circulated to?

    2. If the rogues had been in control they could have said the story was partly right but the date was wrong.

    3. In fact the early date is consistent with somewhat insouciant anti Trump plotters not worrying that the date would hurt their plot but counted on itt to emphasise that Trump had no excuse because the report was made so long before he took notice.

    4. In general the likelihood that the report existed declines with every day, or month if you prefer, that it’s existence is given absolutely no support. Two years after Ron Unz has alerted a multitude to look for it is a long time

    If you still think the alleged dating of the alleged report was a critical matter you should consider the likely process of cooking it up from say mid March when clear thinking about which date would be most damaging to Trump might have got a bit hazy. In fact they needn’t have worried because only you and anyone you have persuaded on UR think the date matters

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  312. Six years ago with Ukraine President Porochenko, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of their country, the Ukrainians bet that a Hillary Clinton presidency would offer better protection from Russian President Vladimir Putin, even though he had invaded Crimea during the Obama-Biden administration, whose Russian policies Clinton vowed to continue. There is a new President now with President Zelensky.

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/03/10/how_ukraine_conspired_with_dems_against_trump_to_prevent_the_kind_of_war_happening_now_under_biden_820873.html .

  313. @Si1ver1ock

    Why? On what reasoning? On what principles of International Law?

    • Replies: @Kiza
  314. Realist says:
    @Spanky

    COVID has re-emerged in China and a city of nine million is locked down, again.

    Is this information from China or the U.S.?

    • Replies: @Spanky
  315. Just some light relief — American “leaders” continue to experience difficulty with anywhere or anybody outside USA.

    Nancy Pelosi Recalls How She Spent 50 Minutes With Ukrainian President ‘Kerensky’

    Not to mention that rampant inflation in USA is the fault of V. Putin.
    Nor to forget “the Iranian people” …
    And the Kamel explains to Americans —

    “Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically that’s wrong”, Harris said …

    These vacuous dolts expect you to take them seriously, too.

    https://sputniknews.com/20220312/video-nancy-pelosi-recalls-how-she-spent-50-minutes-with-ukrainian-president-kerensky-1093810266.html

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  316. MGB says:
    @Che Guava

    Che do have you a link for the 731 hemophilia connection?

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  317. Dumbo says:
    @Ron Unz

    What was the “preparedness” of the US? A lot of obese people who were the nr 1 risk factor?

    Mr. Unz, I have to ask, are you in favour of lockdowns, masks, and all that crap? Do you think they made any freaking difference? Be serious.

    As for vaccines, I know you’re a vaxxer. I personally think they are worthless or even bad for you, but to each his own.

    • Replies: @MGB
  318. @Che Guava

    Aum Shinrikyo seem like a modern day update of Unit 731. But it would appear that they didn’t bother with lab experiments on live subjects and went straight to field application.

    • LOL: Che Guava
  319. Kiza says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Aha, actually your questions are quite valid in this instance (not always). Why are they interesting – because the answers show the modus operandi of the criminal mob running all Western countries. This modus operandi – the flow of power is what I keenly observed during Covid and in several different countries, most of all in Australia. It was like watching a chess game.

    But let us remain on the example of Australia. Let me answer your questions and let me point you to the now former member of the Australian Parliament, George Christiansen, who could not put up with this criminally corrupt gang any more and withdrew from politics.

    [MORE]

    There is a role that the Federal Parliament criminally corrupt political mob played, a role that the state parliament criminally corrupt mob played and a role that the criminally corrupt medical organisations played in Covid. Damage-wise, the state gang was the worst, the medical organisation gangs were the next and the federal gang was slightly less bad (although George mentioned above could not stomach even that level). I believe that this was also the order of proportional sharing of the pharma bribe money and the WEF.influence peddling, the carrots hanged in front of the noses of the criminally corrupt shits in these power structures. Before, I would have never believed that Covid-like scheme would have been possible because it required so many criminally corrupt shits inside the power structure and so many others to keep quiet. I understand well why so many kept quiet – surprised as I was, but I still do not understand how the perpetrators knew who was so criminally corrupt to implement the Covid scheme.

    Ok, so who banned HCQ first and later Ivermectin as well? The order came from the centre of the Covid scheme in Australia, the most corrupt bureaucracy in the whole country – the Therapeutic Goods Administration, the Australian equivalent of the most corrupt government bureaucracy on the planet – the FDA of US. BTW, the fact that Australian TGA banned alternatives to the “vaccines” several months before its daddy, the FDA did, shows great initiative of the Australian crooks. Banning off-label use of the previously approved drugs is an unprecedented move anywhere in the World. Good money had to be paid for the soon completely discredited study by an Indian professor at Harvard, published in Lancet, that was used to characterise HCQ as ineffective and outright dangerous (why was it ever approved for malaria if so dangerous?). The study was a complete fabrication and a huge Lancet scandal but was used by the corrupt TGA regardless.

    Then the criminally corrupt Australian Medical Association jumped in and put pressure on the Australian doctors to NOT prescribe HCQ and the Australian Customs started confiscating any packages with HCQ arriving into Australia from India. BTW, HCQ is such a mild medicine that in many countries it is over-the-counter, that us not even regulated by medical authorities.

    All of the above was to lay ground for the Emergency Use Authorisation for the two vector and two mRNA “vaccines” to be arriving in Australia at the end of the year 2020. An EUA for the four “vaccines” could not be issued if there was an alternative treatment, people dying from Covid found themselves in the way of big profits. Even an Australian Nobel Prise winner in veterinary science, a hyper-corrupt character named Peter Doherty, jumped into the fray defending the “vaccines” from the vaccine religious exemptions demanded by the Australian National Council of Churches.

    In closing, the Civid scheme was demonstrably highly planned on the “vaccines” side (not only the mRNA based). My main point is that there is much more clear proof that the “vaccines” release was planned and ready when the virus appeared than that the virus release was planned and deliberate (Ron’s point). If one is willing to accept the more speculative theory that the virus release was planned and deliberate then one should accept that the virus and the “vaccine” were planned together as a pair and definitely there was no unintended blowback as Ron states.

    In other words, WEF and profit/corruption were behind the virus-vaccine pair. And this is not over!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  320. Truthor says:

    If one bothered to look, it is probable the Ukrainian BioLabs are probably Soviet, i.e. Russian, biolabs that have been updated by the U.S. Russia had/has biolabs all over everywhere, or did in the Cold War with the post-Soviet states becoming the new owners.

    Given Russia’s penchant on bioweapons, biological and chemical warfare, not to mention nukes, it is disingenuous to listen to Russian and other handwringers on this issue. It is, indeed, the pot calling the kettle black.

    So the correct response is to ignore the Russian dizinformatsiya and keep sending Ukraine food and munitions.

    • Troll: Kiza, Spanky
    • Replies: @Badger Down
  321. MGB says:
    @Dumbo

    A bunch of Rockefeller Foundation types have put together ‘A Roadmap for Living with Covid’. Not surprisingly, it is heavy on investment in private development of pharmaceuticals strategy, but no mention of general health from what I have gotten through in the Executive Summary, Recommendations sections. (There is a section on the improvement of air indoor quality, but no references to higher hospitalization and mortality rates for diabetics, the dietary deficients, etc.). In the section summary on Therapeutics the report recommends more warp speed-like programs, i.e. the abbreviation of trial phases, and a feeder program that automatically advises anyone with a positive PCR test to start therapeutics and to enroll in clinical trials.

    https://www.covidroadmap.org/

  322. @Anita Patel

    Yes. I remember reading first about many pigs in China having to be killed because of a swine flu, then many chickens had to be killed because of a chicken flu, then there was some problem in China with the soybeans which caused China to buy many soybeans from us. This is what I was reading before the outbreak of sars-2-flu i.e. C-19. I read some information that that flu was brought into China by some US armed forces over there for contests of some sort. Reportedly, they did poorly in competition because they were all sick! This is not verified.
    I have always thought this flu was purely home-grown, as American as apple pie, having some sort of beginning in Ft. Deitrich and the University of North Carolina (I think). Maybe it was outsourced by Dr. Faucet and his crew to a lab in Wuhan, where we allege it started in the local market but I never believed that. Anything is possible, however, giving both pundits and us citizens lots to discuss.

  323. gatobart says:
    @Commentator Mike

    No, you idiot. Even a lobotomized baboon who was dropped by his mom when a baby and was never picked up realizes at this point in time that THIS was not what Vladimir Putin had in mind when ordering this operation and also would see that the operation has backfired on several essential points.

    First, perhaps the most serious of all, the bogging down of Russia forces and the mounting Russian casualties. The Ukrainian are probably lying when bouncing around the number of 12.000 but I have no doubt that they have past already one thousand and maybe lie now in the low thousands. BECAUSE THAT IS THE KIND OF LOSSES TO EXPECT WHEN AN ARMY INVADES A HOSTILE COUNTRY AND TRY TO MINIMIZE THE LOSSES ON THE OPPOSING SIDE. After weeks of encirclements, raging firefights, etc, the invading side in the one who has to put those losses in the stats. As I said, I can even imagine a previous exchange between Putin and his Israeli pals, him telling them of his plans and intentions, he expecting the Ukrainian military and government to collapse sooner than later and a Ukrainian populace in the majority receiving the invading troops as liberators, and watching now that such a thing wasn’t at all what happened. BECAUSE THAT PROYECTED SCENARIO IS THE ONLY THAT MAKES SENSE WHEN PLANNING A COUNTRY WIDE RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKRAINE. A Western analyst-propagandist hit it more or less on the nail when saying that what Putin expected in Ukraine was another Crimea, a tad more violent maybe, but basically some business that could be finished in days. So either Putin grossly miscalculated when predicting the reaction of the Ukrainian populace or he is simple an idiot. As I already said, I can imagine those Israelis jumping at his words: “No, no, no. You don’t invade a country like Ukraine. You don’t invade a country like that anywhere in the world let alone in Central Europe. If you don’t like something about them, you bomb it, and bomb it again…!”

    [MORE]

    Putin grossly miscalculated the reaction of Ukrainians because no one is stupid and ignorant enough to invade an Eastern European nation of 50.000 million, right next door to nuclear armed NATO, expecting a dragged-out situation lasting for weeks and where cities pass from one side to the other and back, or giant convoys get stuck in highways and cauldrons fight back instead of surrendering. THIS AS ALL THE MARKS OF A HUMONGOUS MISCALCULATION.

    Now, as for you, you could have simply responded that I was wrong and that events will show me how wrong I was and that you expect that by then I would post against a comment recognizing how wrong I was. BUT, NO, YOU HAD TO RESSORT TO THE USUAL GRATUITOUS INSULT, WHICH BEST PROVES THAT CLASSIC LINE FROM A MOVIE “YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH…!” IS ENTIRELY APPLICABLE TO YOU AND THE REST OF THOSE WITH THE SAME CLOSED MIND.

    Speaking of which, you should do something to improve your reading skills because ITS CLEAR THAT YOU DON’T READ IN COMMENTS WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THEM BUT WHAT YOU WANT TO READ. I never said that Russia would come as the loser out of this mess, defeated and ostracized by the rest of the world and that Russians would live like in a country under siege city, perhaps even starving. What I have been saying for weeks, or rather an entire decade, is that RUSSIA GOT TO RECLAIM A POSITION OF RESPECT IN THE WORLD, THAT DUE TO THE NATION HOLDING BY FAR THE BISGGEST NUCLEAR ARSENAL IN HISTORY, IF ONLY FOR THAT, ONE THAT COULD WIPE OUT OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH IN A FEW MINUTES ALL THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PROVOKING AND HUMMILIATING HER FOR SO LONG. AND ALSO THAT THE REASON WHY THIS UNNATURAL SITUATION HAS BEEN SUSTAINED FOR A DECADE IS THE CATASTROPHIC PUTIN”S FOREIGN POLICIY TOWARDS NATO, ALL BECAUSE OF HIS UNREQUITEED LOVE FOR “HE WEST”.

    I have no doubt that Russia will achieve the respect she deserves in the world arena, specially from “the West”, because that is the natural situation for this day and age; the paradigm we should have had ever since at least the early 2010s. Now the universe is finally! unfolding as it should, but the process will be far bloodier and more violent, with far more tensions and conflicts than it would have been achieved had Putin forgotten about his personal aims of being loved but the West and instead of shrugging his shoulders at Yanukovych’s plea for military aid in 2014, preferring to keep his focus, and to give all his entire soul, to his ego feast in Sochi, had he sent the President of Ukraine A MINUTE FRACTION OF WHAT RUSSIA IS SPENDING NOW AND AT A FAR, FAR LOWER COST FOR HER TREASURE. NOT TO MENTION RUSSIAN LOSSES IN MEN.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  324. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “Zero supporting evidence” is pretty close to what YOUR belief in the report has to support it.

    ABC News is one of America’s largest TV news outlets, the story was reported by its Chief Pentagon Correspondent, and the written version produced by its Chief Investigative Reporter. According to the account, FOUR separate US Intelligence sources confirmed the report and its details, and Trump’s Secretary of Defense initially said “he couldn’t remember” when asked about it. Here’s the ABC News clip:

    Once everyone realized that the date implied American foreknowledge, the Pentagon then denied that the report existed, but Israeli TV independently confirmed it.

    You can just argue that “everyone was lying” but what I described obviously isn’t the “zero evidence” that you suggest. Meanwhile, there really is ZERO evidence on the other side.

    You’re desperately trying to argue that 2+2 isn’t 4, and just making yourself look foolish.

    And since you like watching videos, you really should take a look at that hour-long Glenn Greenwald presentation I provided upthread on the games American officials play in denying the obvious existence of our huge bioweapons program.

  325. Sorry, but that was not an accidental discosure. Marco had been prompted to ask the question so she could present her answer that the Russians were planning to use bio weapons in Ukraine as a false flag ops, as well as to create the foundation for enabling the US to deny, deny, deny.

    Watch “Wage the Dog” where it shows how that truick is played.

    • Agree: acementhead
  326. gatobart says:
    @Levtraro

    Yep, that is what history will say about Vladimir Putin and I know it because I got my eyes wide open and don’t let myself win by subjective images o by “what they say”, specially his admirers.

    History will say that Vladimir Putin was the FIRST HEAD OF STATE TO PRESENT HIS CONDOLENCES TO THEN U.S. PRESIDENT BUSH FOR 911 AND TO OFFER HIM THE ENTIRE COOPERATION OF THE RUSSIA GOVERNMENT TO HELP THE U.S. IN ITS FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM. I think he even took the plane right then to Washington to do all that personally. I am just a simple bloke without any access to any secret files, to the records of any three-letter government agency, but even knowing as little as I knew then about the story, I realized that there was something very fishy about it all just watching those planes hitting the buildings. BTW, when U.S, troops finally withdrew from Kabul, Afghanistan, in aug,. of 2021, Putin declared that such a retreat was damaging for the fight against Muslim terrorism in Asia…! Do I need to go any further…? What the heck.

    Putin was also on record also saying that for him the ideal world of the XXI Century would be one dominated by the U.S. and the US dollar, with Russia playing a secondary role to the first world power, in a place similar to that of France or Germany. Vladimir Putin wanted also for Russia to get into NATO and the only reason he stopped asking for it is that he was informed by the West that for such a thing Russia “had to apply and get on line” , which was unacceptable to him, to see Russia treated “as any country that doesn’t matter”.

    Putin was also de President of Russia that didn’t even bother to interrupt his Black Sea vacations when informed of the sinking of the Kursk and the death of her crew of 103 AND IT WAS ONLY PUBLIC INDIGNACTION THAT MADE HIM FINALLY COME BACK IN A HURRY TO MOSCOW. Which gives me the shakes when I think of those thousands of troops he has sent to Ukraine. What care he may have for their lives, as he didn’t flinch when informed of the tragic death of 103 sailors of the Russian navy.

    When in 2015 the Western sanctions against Russia start hitting, Vladimir Putin is on record saying that they were surely hitting the pockets of his oligarch pals. But he didn’t say a word about how they were affecting the populace, not a word.

    For an entire decade, while the U.S. was bombing and invading countries in Africa and the Middle East, he responded to the voices calling on him to take a stronger stand face to Washington THAT THE MAIN PRIORITY OF HIS FOREIGN POLICY WAS TO HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH THE U.S.

    And here we are now.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  327. lavoisier says:
    @Spanky

    But, despite my misgivings, over the years I have come to grudgingly respect Putin, while my contempt for Bush (and Shrub) has only deepened.

    Living in Texas, and knowing how corrupt the Bush family has always been, I share your contempt for the contemptible, treasonous, and immoral Bush family.

    Look up Omega Protein and the role of the Bush family in destroying the menhaden fishery. And shrub was instrumental in destroying the ecologically valuable and exquisite Barton Creek watershed in Austin while governor, in service to his big money donor real estate “developers”.

    The Bush family are comprised of terrible, greedy people devoid of morality and totally focused on greed.

    The evangelical dupes put them in power because they thought the Bushes were god fearing good Christian folks instead of the venal grifters they are and have always been.

    • Agree: Spanky
  328. Truthor says:

    For those drinking the Kool-Aid –

    Top Russian biologist turns on Putin’s propaganda insisting claims of US-funded Ukrainian biowarfare labs researching Black Death, anthrax and cholera are ‘pure lies’ and ‘absurd fakes’

    Moscow biologist Dr Yevgeny Letvitin squashed Russian accusations of Ukrainian laboratories developing biological weapons like plague and anthrax
    Russia allege a plot by Ukraine to use animals to carry viruses into their country
    But the Russian doctor has gone public with critique of claims in an open letter

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10605417/Russian-biologist-turns-Putins-propaganda-machine-insisting-claims-Ukrainian-biowarfare-labs.html

  329. @gatobart

    LOL. You don’t have a clue. Yes, Russia has invaded the largest country in Europe after itself with the third largest army in Europe, after Russia and France, and where every male of fighting age is now armed, and yet it is just playing around with the enemy forces and will grind them down and defeat them. Just wait and see. Sure they have casualties in the several thousand but those are mostly in the LDPR militia for obvious reasons down there. But I’d hate to know what are the casualties among the Ukrainian forces and these will be mounting. And Russia has really committed only a tiny fraction of its available military force, manpower and hardware, to this operation. Sure 60 km columns of trucks and tanks seems impressive but really it isn’t that much when you’re sending them on a city of a few million inhabitants. Yet they know what they’re doing and they’ll get the job done, whatever the job may be.

    The Ukraine had become a rogue state par excellence, setting up numerous filthy dirty biowarfare labs sponsored by USA with the aim of attacking Russia, became a client state of NATO covertly allowing NATO forces to use its territory to prepare an attack on Russia, has threatened to build nuclear weapons which it is capable of doing, has allowed NeoNazis to terrorise the population and enter into all pores of society and the military, banned and supressed languages, political parties and media organisations, and for eight years has murdered Russian people with impunity on both sides of the LDPR border. So I suppose that’s all fine by you because its their country and they can do what the hell they want. So if they want to allow mass murdering Nazi psychopaths to run loose like mad dogs that’s fine by you because it’s their country. Well Russia doesn’t think so and it has said no and is putting a stop to it. Those Nazis can all pack up and go to Canada where they can be welcomed by their Canadian ZioNazi friends, that is if they can get out. Probably Zelensky did a good thing to prevent all men of fighting age to leave the country so Russians can now go through them all with a fine mesh sieve to identify all the Nazis and liquidate them as their deNazification programme progresses. That could be a pity as perhaps they should be allowed do their Nazi thing in Canada, Germany, Australia, USA or wherever else among their Western big money sponsors and admirers among the common people of those countries. Wake up fool!

  330. lavoisier says:
    @Ron Unz

    When you are committed to finding reasons for not believing in something, as the Wiz obviously remains a dedicated proponent, no evidence will ever be sufficient to alter their conviction.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  331. Funny how the left seems so excited about getting into WW 3. They might finally agree with the Republicans on protecting a border. Too bad it isn’t the U.S. border.

  332. Kiza says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Are you playing dumb again?

    If someone was demonstratively preparing a WMD, this is a clear exception to the UN charter and international law on illegal attacks. Then the attack on a country becomes defensive, legal and justified.

    First, whilst the Russians did not prepare such claim before their attack on Ukraine, US did this before their attack on Iraq together with its criminal gang, the self declared International Community. Without a global propaganda machine, it was impossible for the Russians to place the true intelligence they had of such activity prominently. All their previous claims were simply ignored by almost everybody upon blatant lies and denials by US. The US propaganda machine, allowed US to play its lies about Iraq even in UN by that very dumb dummy Colin Powell (who later died in total shame). Simply, the Russians needed to show proof whilst for the US it was enough to shake a vial of shite powder at UN.

    Second, this issue is exactly why the totalitarian Western propaganda incessantly repeats the phrase “unprovoked attack by Russia on Ukraine”. This phrase has to be burned into the craniums of the Western stupidos.

    Other then this, read my analysis above of how the US hides its totally illegal bio warfare laboratories in plain sight via:
    1) declaring them research for the betterment of humanity – financed by that most benevolent organisation on the planet – the Pentagon, and
    2) claiming that it took US 30 years and on going to dismantle the bio warfare laboratories of the Soviet Union, all near the border of Russia.

    Effectively, the UN is as dead as the League of Nations was. The US with its large gang of vassals will become one block and China-Russia as the leaders of SCO will become the other block. This was clear almost 30 years ago.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  333. Kiza says:

    I wonder why nobody in the West even mentions the Ukrainians who are not ethnic Russians but still hate Zelensky even more than the “Russian invaders”. This is because they elected Zelensky on his platform of being anti-corruption and finding a compromise with Russia. Instead, the weasel joined with the Nazis, which are sponsored just as he is by both the Ukrainian version of George Soros, Kolomoyski, and CIA. Yes, Kolomoyski works closely with CIA, with who he also organised the shooting down of MH17 over Donetsk.

    The CIA supports any extremists which could do the job, be it communists (e.g. in Iran), fascists (e.g. in Chile), salafists (e.g. al Qaida in Afghanistan and ISIS in Syria) or Nazis (in Ukraine).

    It is very funny that some tried to use Zelensky’s Jewishness to deny that his main forces are the Nazis – because the Jews would never cooperate with Nazis to make a profit, LOL.

  334. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Noble47

    That has an ominous ring to it, as it would be a good way to prepare the American public for a false-flag bio-weapon attack in Ukraine which would then be blamed on the Russians.

    EXACTLY.

    And the reason for that is that American and European populations do not desire war, refuse to get emotionally agitated by the conflict in Ukraine, and have a very deep and persistent distrust of their governments. With very good reason.

    The footage of refugees, bomb damage, so called atrocities (a “bomb dropped on a maternity ward”, the Ukraine War’s direct equivalent of the “babies thrown out of incubators” LIE told prior to the Gulf War of 1991, or the Syrian “chemical attacks by the Assad regime”) – all these have not sufficiently motivated the public in the U.S or in Europe.

    So what do is they go bigger, tell bigger lies. This time, they will convince us of Russian chemical and biological weapons usage. How? By themselves unleashing chemical and biological warfare.

    “How dare these animals (referring to us) question our narrative! What good are the populations of the West if they refuse to be our tools, our EXPENDABLE FODDER?!” This is how our ‘elites’ think of us.

    And if THAT still doesn’t work, look for them to escalate even further, all the way to the judicious use of NUCLEAR WEAPONS, so they can blame the Russians (and yes, the same playbook will be used against the Chinese as well).

    That’s how utterly evil and depraved they are. I’ll be damned if I or my loved ones and close friends will support this NeoCon war.

    THEY must be stopped, whatever the cost. Or they will shove us all into hell.

  335. gatobart says:
    @Commentator Mike

    As I have known for already a decade that Putin fans form something like a religious cult, and so that to them their Messiah can do no wrong, everything that comes out of his mouth represents the accumulated wisdom of the ages; everything he does is wise, smart, even brilliant…! added to that a pint of exalted divinity, there is no point in arguing with them because THEY ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. And even if the Truth is staring them in the face they will turn their clueless faces to see their own Truth they want to see. Let’s see for example what this cult member has written here:

    “The Ukraine had become a rogue state par excellence, setting up numerous filthy dirty biowarfare labs sponsored by USA with the aim of attacking Russia, became a client state of NATO covertly allowing NATO forces to use its territory to prepare an attack on Russia, has threatened to build nuclear weapons which it is capable of doing, has allowed NeoNazis to terrorise the population and enter into all pores of society and the military, banned and supressed languages, political parties and media organisations, and for eight years has murdered Russian people with impunity on both sides of the LDPR border”.

    [MORE]

    AND WHOSE FAULT IS THAT, WE MAY ASK, WHO WAS THE DOPE NEXT DOOR WHO WHILE THE NEONAZIS WERE TAKING OVER UKRAINE, ALMOST ALL OF IT, WAS TOO BUSY IN HIS OWN EGO FEAST IN SOCHI, TRYING TO BE LOVED BY THE “WEST”, OBLIVIOUS TO THE DESPERATE PLEAS FOR HELP FROM THE LEGITIMATE LEADER OF UKRAINE…?

    Yep, that was Putin. No other than Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. But see now these members of his cult, THEY TALK OF THE PRESENT REALITY OF UKRAINE AS IF SOMETING THAT JUST APPEARED OVERNIGHT, like the TROJAN HORSE; SOMETHING FALLEN FROM THE SKY ABOUT WHICH NOBODY COULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO PREVENT IT. That is why trying to argue reasonably with these people is a waste. Giving to Yanukovych the military assistance he was asking for in 2014 would have probably unleashed a civil war where most of the fighting would have been done by Ukrainians themselves anyway and in the end the most likely outcome is that Ukraine would have been partitioned in East and West just like what happened to Germany after WW2. Instead of that V.V. Putin has gotten his country in a meat grinding machine. WHO COULD HAVE IMAGINED THAT SUCH A THING WOULD HAPPEN…? NOT EVEN THE MASTER CHESS PLAYER IMSELF. Now, this from the Saker page, some statements by Lavrov:

    “As for arms supplies to Ukraine from abroad, we see that our Western colleagues have been making some very dangerous steps, including the European Union. In fact, it has been encouraging the supplies of lethal weapons to Ukraine, including thousands of MANPADS, which can be taken anywhere and fired at any aim “from the shoulder.” This violates all EU principles and its so-called “values.” Terrorists often use these weapons to threaten civilian aircraft”

    Wait a minute Is this guy for real…? From which galaxy or universe he is just coming down to Earth…? So the “West”, the same West that until weeks ago V.V., Putin worshiped, is now providing all kinds of lethal weapons to the Ukrainians that are resisting the Russian invasion. Do these people in Moscow, the Kremlin, ever heard about CIA Stingers in Afghanistan, about both the U.S. and the USSR sending some of their best weapons to people fighting the other side in some places here and there, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Afghanistan and so on…? WHY ARE THEY SO SHOCKED NOW BECAUSE THE WEST IS ARMING THE UKRAINIANS RESISTING THE RUSSIAN INVASION, WASN’T THAT TO BE EXPECTED…? What they expected instead, that the EU/U.S. leave the Ukrainians fight with whatever they had and only that…? Are they telling me that they had no idea that the EU/U.S. cartel would do such a thing…? Incredible. This seems really the discourse of people who have learnt absolutely nothing of recent world History. And what about that “EU principles and values” nonsense; don’t tell me in the Kremlin they sill believe in that fancy idea.

    So, in the end, as said, trying to argue with reason with members of the Hail Putin religious cult is a waste of time as they will never recognize the obvious, that had not been their blessed guru so enthralled in his personal journey of (ultimately frustrated) acceptance by the West, to send the needed military aid to the legitimate government of Ukraine in 2014 nothing of this would be happening now or it would be happening with Russia is a far better position, militarily and politically.

  336. This article is clearly a hot one given the volume of comments, so my apologies for any repetition of other people’s original thoughts.

    Also, I don’t want to come across to Mr. Unz as saying “we told you so, but you wouldn’t listen – for over two years!“. (Even though we all did – and Mr. Unz didn’t).

    In Mr. Unz’ defence, he’s a busy man, and has a lot of things on his plate.

    However…

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    In any event, I think it was an extremely reckless and foolish thing for the American government to have funded the creation of biowarfare facilities in Ukraine, a country enormously hostile to its nuclear-armed Russian neighbor.

    It possibly should have been something of a heads up when the American government did an extremely reckless and foolish thing all the way back in 2014, by orchestrating the most blatant coup in history according to Stratfor, personally organised by homicidal psycopath Cookies Nuland and billionnaire Globalist George Soros, with the specific objective of turning Ukraine into a country enormously hostile to its nuclear-armed Russian neighbor.

    The involvement of someone like George Soros should also have started alarm bells ringing that the Globalists have had a hand in all of this.

    And governments that do some extremely reckless and foolish things are much more likely to have done other extremely reckless and foolish things, possibly including those that have already had massive adverse consequences, such as a million American deaths over the last two years.

    We’ve been waving that Havard report at you, Mr. Unz, which concludes that the Americans VAERS only captures maybe 1% of actual injuries and deaths from vaccines, for the last two years. The VAERS death count for the fake Corona Chan “vaccines” is currently over 20,000, which speaks of an actual fake “vaccine” death tally over 2 million now.

    Yes, it’s much more plausible now given the revelation of numerous clandestine American bioweapons labs in Ukraine. One might assess that “much more plausble” than what was already a mountain of compelling evidence over the last two years, could only be construed as “an absolute certainty”.

    (And that doesn’t even consider the life insurance companies now reporting a 40% increase in all cause mortality since after, not before, the rollout of the fake “vaccines” commenced).

    Meanwhile, back in April 2020 ABC News reported and Israeli TV confirmed that our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a secret report “in the second week of November” describing a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. This DIA report now appears to have been written before the first Chinese person had even become infected.

    How long ago? In April 2020…

    And we’ve known about the WEF’s Event 201 rehearsal for the Coron Chan “pandemic” since October 2019, because they didn’t even try to hide it.

    The hand behind the scenes which is driving all the chaos, and has been for decades, hidden in plain sight.

    The Globalists certainly weren’t taking any risks by broadcasting their “pandemic” operation to the world before the fact, because they were absolutely correct in their assessment that no-one in any position of influence would take the threat seriously. Case in point – Mr. Unz, who for much of the past two years has dismissed the likes of Klaus Schwab as an inconsequential door-to-door shoe salesman (or words to that effect).

    Klaus Schwab, who now openly boasts of having subverted just about every major nation on the planet with his personally mentored agents entrenched in their governments.

    Better late than never, Mr. Unz, to come around to the awful unpalatable truth. Your comprehensive analysis of the circumstantial evidence for American involvement in the Corona Chan “outbreak” is impressive – it follows from your particular field of journalistic expertise.

    But that’s down in the weeds compared to the biggure picture of what has been unfolding around the world. It’s missing the big picture.

    People like Dr. Reiner Fuellmich have constructed a far more accurate picture of what’s actually been going on with the staged Corona Chan “pandemic” and the fake “vaccines” from a societal perspective, because that’s his field of professional expertise. Dr. Fuellmich has identified the people who are behind all of this, and they are the Globalists – the people who are determined to see us all owning nothing, and being happy.

    What’s happening now in Ukraine is part of that. A top down assessment of the troubles of the world right now would acknowledge the hand of the Globalist WEF and a cabal of psycopathic billionnaires ala “Dr. Evil” in all of it.

    You completely missed (or simply disregarded) the significance of the in-your-face Event 201 “pandemic” rehearsal, dismissing Klaus Schwab as an insignificant door-to-door shoe salesman (or words to that effect).

    Will you also overlook the implications of the WEF’s Cyber Polygon rehearsal for a “global cyber attack”, now that the American government is openly hyping the threat of Russian “cyber attacks” on banks and infrastructure?

    War, pestilence, famine, climate change – the pattern is clear – the Globalists first carry out a public rehearsal of their planned crises, and then the government agencies echo the propaganda before carrying it out. Will you still be chasing shadows after the next Globalist-orchestrated crisis, and the next?

    The Globalists have to destroy the world so that they can “Build Back Better” – and that’s exactly what they are trying to do. Note the use of that specific WEF catch-phrase, “Build Back Better”, in the public policy lexicon of nations across the globe, including the European Union and each of the Five Eyes nations.

    Your talent for meticulous analysis of geopolitical events is both impressive and important.

    But you’ve been threshing about in the weeds with the whole bioweapon thing. It’s just one piece in a larger puzzle – one orchestrated crisis – for which all the evidence is hidden in plain view, and the main players have a whole handful of new and exciting crisis cards yet to play.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  337. @hardlooker

    Funny–Pugsley has the “HOTS” for Victoria Nuland. Personally if they hitched -the offspring could be featured on Old McDonald’s farm in the swine section. Apart from her—Canada’s Chrystia Freeland smacks of beauty and the bombshells—dead ringer for Edith Prickley on SCTV.

  338. @gatobart

    Hail Hunter and kiss Joe “Amtrak” Biden’s caboose.

  339. Athena says:

    28-years-old twins whose genes have been affected by an agent sprayed on their soil by the US-NATO 30 years ago:

    http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/21/another-sorry-episode-in-american-history-agent-orange/

    ”The U.S. government still spends billions every year on disability payments to those who served in Vietnam — including their children, many of whom are suffering from dioxin-associated cancers and birth defects.”

    “We spend billions per week on undeclared wars to injure, kill, and destroy. We spend hundreds of millions of dollars on fraudulent and wasteful defense contracts. We spend billions on drones and bombs which kill 687 civilians per 14 enemy targets, amounting to a ratio of nearly 50 civilians killed for each undeclared enemy killed.”

    • Thanks: Spanky
  340. Ron Unz says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    I appreciate your including the [MORE] since the vaxxing stuff is really off-topic. I think some of your points are sensible and others less so, but I’ll provide a few responses:

    (1) Sure, the 2014 Neocon coup in Ukraine was extremely reckless, but keeping the war going for seven more years and apparently putting biowarfare labs near the Russia border was much more so.

    (2) I’m now more convinced than ever that the anti-vaxxing stuff based upon the VAERS database is just total nonsense. Someone pointed out that New Zealand had very little Covid infection and was 90+% vaxxed with Pfizer so it’s a perfect test-case for distinguishing between Covid deaths and vaxxing deaths. “Excess deaths” in New Zealand were nil, thereby proving that the vaccines aren’t dangerous.

    (3) The massive discussion of the WEF Event 201 stuff with Klaus Schwab and the “Globalists” is just ridiculous conspiracy nonsense, quite possibly promoted by the actual conspirators (probably Deep State Neocons) who want to cover up their own role in the Covid outbreak.

    For decades, Robert Kadlec has been one of our leading biowarfare advocates and from January to August 2019 he organized our federal and state officials in a drill on how to prevent a dangerous Chinese respiratory virus from infecting our country. A few weeks later, exactly that sort of virus suddenly appeared in Wuhan. That’s extremely suspicious. But it doesn’t necessarily mean that Kadlec himself was involved, just that the conspirators probably encouraged him to focus on biopreparedness.

    Similarly, the conspirators very likely encouraged the WEF people to hold similar drills, including Event 201. But I think it’s extremely unlikely that any of them were actually involved in the plot or aware of it.

  341. @Donald A Thomson

    For example, I’m suspicious that COVID-19 was a biological warfare attack by the USA on China but I don’t regard that as proven.

    Right on the cue, a new Covid virus has appeared in a Chinese city; damn, these Covid virus avatars are all American supporters!

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-imposes-lockdown-million-residents-northeastern-industrial-center-83384260

    • Replies: @Donald A Thomson
  342. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @BigJimSportCamper

    Snakes have bones. Worms do not.

    So ((Jews)) are human-like!

  343. Spanky says:
    @Realist

    Looks down, scuffs ground with shoes…

    Primarily western, including India. Just searched with DuckDuckGo and found no Chinese hits. (DuckDuckGo is now compromised.) So…

    • Thanks: Realist
  344. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for taking the time to respond.

    It seems that we can agree that, at a very high level, there is indeed a conspiracy against the common folks’ best interests afoot. Irrespective of details, that’s a necessary first step toward understanding that we are all in danger.

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    I should just draw your attention to a logical fallacy…

    “Excess deaths” in New Zealand were nil, thereby proving that the vaccines aren’t dangerous.

    No, that statement supports the assertion that the “vaccines” aren’t dangerous in New Zealand. The accompanying error is assuming that all the “vaccines” produced by a particular company are actually a single product.

    Regardless of New Zealand’s seeming good fortune, the excess deaths due to all cause mortality have indeed shot up by 40% after the “vaccine” rollout in the USA, according to the figures released by American life insurers – and it’s very much their business to know the facts of the matter, because their financial viability depends on it.

    Dr. Michael Yeadon (among others) has made a strong case from the mortality data that Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson and Astrazeneca have been systematically calibrating the lethality of their “vaccine” batches in cooperation with each other – cooperatively sequencing their highly toxic batches by time and geographic area of release to keep the relevant data isolated and identifiable.

    In short, this has been an experimental prototyping run on a global scale.

    You are right to be cautious of allowing every forum discussion to descend into a Corona Chan “vaccine” debate. It’s not about Corona Chan or the fake “vaccines”, here in Australia (and New Zealand) the issue is about the descent of totalitarian governments from out of nowhere who are hell-bent on ramming legislation through to entrench permanent dictatorial control, using the fake Corona Chan “pandemic” (the opportunistic crisis) as the foundational premise for complete control of the population aka the dystopian technocratic “social credit system”.

    Whatever credence one might prefer to give to Klaus Scwab and the WEF, it gets a little more real and personal when beauracrats from every state and even the federal government publicly state, quite literally, that we better get used to the New World Order.

    If the WEF is not a clear and present danger to life and liberty, then logically neither are our psycho governments who are infested with WEF agents and are reading from the WEF script. As Bill Gates likes to say, “sadly” (though he never means it), our psycho governments who are reading from the WEF’s script have indeed proven themselves over the last two years to be very much a clear and present danger to life & liberty. Ergo, IMO the WEF’s agenda for the planet is not to be dismissed lightly.

    FWIW, the current Rusian intervention in Ukraine can arguably be framed as President Putin’s pushback against the WEF’s Globalist drive for the New World Order, if that is what’s actually behind the systematic chaos. The remaining point of contention is the question of exactly who is the head of the snake? The WEF itself is likely several rungs down the ladder, as is the visible expression of the so-called Deep State.

    • Agree: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  345. @Ron Unz

    I don’t disagree with a word and I am triple vacced but my understanding is that the mRNA vaccines are new enough to leave it open for fear that, despite the New Zealand evidence, there could be delayed, even long term serious effects, maybe more likely in the very young or very old.

  346. @lavoisier

    No, you completely mistake my approach. If I were defending a criminal case I would be pointing out that proof beyond reasonable doubt is not the same in every case as even some lawyers might carelessly say. Cp. Conviction for shoplifting with conviction for stealing from the back storeroom after beating up and stabbing an employee who gets in the way. I don’t like bad arguments and UR is a good site to find one’s which are just plausible enough to be worth testing and correcting.

    • Replies: @The Old Philosopher
  347. @Commentator Mike

    You don’t have a clue.

    100% right.
    Gatofart, as another poster called him, is a clueless airhead who used to quote Court Historians and expound at great length on how correct they were.
    His reappearance with long-screed Standard Bankster Narrative might indicate a paid/volunteer troll, something like Wiz of Oz.
    They might even be the same person (lol).

  348. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    Please write more succintly and stop yelling in caps. In summary you say that Putin is a US poodle (I only glanced at a few of your proclaims) and that you would have been much tougher if you were in his position. I think you live in Canada. Are you tough over there?

    • Replies: @gatobart
  349. @Ron Unz

    For something so critical to your momentous accusation (and it is perhaps as important as anything that has appeared in UR because of its content and because you are the sole source of it) you seem remarkably indifferent to improving the evidence. At least you haven’t told us about your FOIA efforts to explore the issue. Whatever the response it might be as probative as you seem to think Trump’s Secretary of Defense’s initial answer separatethat he couldn’t remember it was.

    As to that, have you looked for a recording of that answer? What exactly was put to him, whether he could be expected to take in all the details and exactly what he said all matter if you are treating it as evidence. Let’s say he shrugged it off with “I certainly I don’t think I remember anything like that”. How did he or his staff get round to denying the report existed? Did you ask the channel whether the Channel followed it up or the DoD did? It’s all as much evidence as what you mention

    Why do you think the ABC channel thought they had 4 separate intelligence sources? Because it’s dimmest weekend director of news got an inexperienced intern fact checker to ring around numbers given by …. whom? Or did all four just ring in on burner phones after No.1 says “I’ll get my colleagues who’ve seen the report to ring you”?

    I don’t think for a moment the TV channel people were lying but I do see them being fooled by a hoax story. Can’t you imagine one of the 4, if there were indeed 4 separate people without disguised voices or texts, saying “I just met this delightful bimbo who works for ABC and will believe anything”? “Time to roll, bros”. And after the one with the best NY Yiddisher accent has planted the story in Israel, there are high fives all round and one of them says “OK, on to CNN” and sensible Jo slaps him down and says they shouldn’t chance their luck and that they could get into pretty serious trouble. By the way Jo is a woman who doesn’t like Trump’s pussy snatching.

    I’ll try and have a look at the Greenwald video.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  350. @Kiza

    I am well aware that few medical people are saints or geniuses, and some are downright bad people in a variety of ways. I once even chaired an inquiry into health services and legal liability so have been close to relevant issues. I am even familiar with medical patent issues. But you surprise me in your allegations of widespread corruption and dishonesty. How do you know all that you have the confidence to assert?

  351. @gatobart

    I concede you’ve got a point, or points, there. I can’t say I know what’s been going on in the Kremlin and their “why” or “when”, but obviously they try to play diplomacy and are known to be sarcastic with their Western “partners” UkroNazi “brothers” and so on. Or even if they’re all in on this, West, Russia and Zelensky with the Ukrainian people paying the price. PCR’s been on fire with his short bursts on the UR as he’s been calling for more decisive action by Russia for ages and has at last got to see it.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  352. @Kiza

    I don’t know why you butted in when I was merely inviting that Commenter to improve his own knowledge and/or mine. I suspected he didn’t know what he was talking about but it is you that now invites cross examining.

    I had Googled “when is defensive war justified in International law” which wasn’t very productive but I have just now substituted “preventive” for “defensive” and, inter alia, found this:

    Preemptive war aims to avert an imminent harm. Preventive war aims to avert a harm that is more temporarily distant. Mainstream just war theory concedes that preemptive war can sometimes be justified, although its permissibility in international law is contested.

    I regarded the Iraq War as not justified legally or otherwise and I don’t see it as having any relevance to Ukraine.

    Why shouldn’t labs to produce gain of function viruses anywhere in the world be justification for pre-emptive attack? Why shouldn’t Iran’s buying or building missiles justify an attack by Israel – and so on ad infinitum?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Kiza
  353. Just for the record – whatever bioweapon malfeasance has been discovered by the Russians in Ukraine has implications going way beyond the USA, to at least the collective Five Eyes cabal, and maybe (I would say probably) further.

    https://www.australiannationalreview.com/health/russia-claims-350-cryocontainers-with-blood-serum-samples-were-transferred-from-the-public-health-centre-of-the-ministry-of-health-of-ukraine-to-a-reference-laboratory-for-infectious-diseases-at-austr/

    Note how quickly (ie, immediately) the Australian government shipped off \$100 million worth of weaponry to help Ukraine fight Russia – this from what has proven to be one of the most draconian tyrannies on the face of Planet Earth still having the audacity to label itself a “democracy”.

    There is a conspiracy in play, and it goes much further and way higher than any of our pay grades.

  354. The U.S. Embassy in Tbilisi has been implicated in trafficking frozen human blood and pathogens as diplomatic cargo for a secret military program.
    https://uncutnews.ch/biolabore-des-pentagon-investigativer-dokumentarfilm/

    Blood is the juice of life. The blood starts flowing the moment life (soul) enters and life ends when blood stops flowing (when soul has left the “bloody body”); bios.

    “Biowarfare” translated means war against life (gr. bios) – blood flow.

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    In the past a Jew Professor Ariel Toaff confirmed the heinous consumption of blood:
    “The Segullot manual, which was widely distributed among Jews from Germany, contains a variety of cooking recipes based on blood, human and animal. The recipes testify to fantastic, pulpy medicines. The preparation sometimes required a great deal of effort. Great healing power was attributed to these blood recipes and the power to ward off diseases. … The great Kabbalist Mordechai, one of those convicted of multiple ritual murders at Endingen, taught that drinking the blood of young women cured epilepsy. The Segullot manual further confirms ‘the tremendous effect of human blood’ when consumed dry and in powder form as the main ingredient of a meal. Moreover, the consumption of blood would make the wildest erotic dreams come true, the book teaches. … During the Trent trial, women close to the recognized Jewish authority Samuele da Norimberg, in particular, made no secret of their strong belief in the healing properties of children’s blood, administered as a miraculous ingredient in meals. ‘This is part of our medicine and practice of applied Kabbalah, it is ancient tradition,’ Bella, the daughter-in-law of Mosè da Würzburg said without hesitation during her testimony in Trento in February 1476.” … “The synagogue at that time was transformed into a kind of sacred slaughterhouse. Amid prayers and lamentations, the blood of women and children was sacrificed for the love of God. The blood virtually gushed out of the bodies. The holy ark, the pulpit, the gallery, the stairs, the altar, everything was dyed red with blood.” … “‘Zeh ha-dam shel goi katan.’ This is the phrase spoken before the ritual murder. It means, ‘This is the blood of a young Christian.’” (Properly translated, it should probably read “this is the blood of a young gentile,” since “goi” means “gentile, unclean animal.”)

    Toaff’s book, as happened regularly with enlightenment works a hundred or two hundred years ago, was bought up and withdrawn from circulation by the powerful of the Jewish organizations. At first, the researcher still fought the censorship and threats: “Toaff promised that he would not bow to the pressure and would defend his work.” But then Toaff capitulated. He stopped selling his book.
    In a new edition in 2008, he toned down much of it, but did not rule out Jewish ritual murders in principle:
    “Certain criminal acts under the guise of rituals did indeed take place. They were extremist groups and lone perpetrators, deluded religious fanatics driven by a thirst for revenge against those they held responsible for their sufferings and their tragedies.”
    Toaff variously suggested that Jews would still trade in human blood today. This suggestion, however, was backed up with outright accusations some time earlier on the Oprah Winfrey Show:
    On May 1, 1989, a young Jewish woman under the pseudonym “Rachel” was a guest on the Oprah Winfrey Show, explaining to millions of television viewers that these shechita rituals on Christian infants were still taking place today. She herself had to sacrifice an infant, she told the camera. Here are the most important statements from the film recording of the television program at the time. “Rachel’s” real name, by the way, was Vicki Polin.
    Vicki has since disappeared. The future spins of Oprah Winfrey and her career are known to Americans; Oprah (oh vey) turned total MSM. The WinFries got pimped by the Jew with over a billion dollars (of goy slave labour).
    Winfrey’s guest was repeatedly introduced by the television host as a Jew. Rachel replied to the then visibly shocked Oprah Winfrey:
    “Jewish blood sacrifices take place in other Jewish families, all over the country. And the police know those who practice these sacrifices.”
    Winfrey asked, “And at home, they worship the devil?”
    Rachel: “Yes, it happens all over the country among Jews. Not just in my family.”
    Winfrey: “Who knows about this?”
    Rachel: “I talked to a detective near Chicago. A lot of friends know about it, too. I’ve made it all public.”
    Winfrey: “So you were raised in this Satanism?”
    Rachel: “I repressed a lot of those memories because of my resulting multiple personality. But, yeah, at the time I thought it was normal. That’s how I was raised.”
    Winfrey: “What did you do, exactly. You don’t have to tell us the gory details, just generally what your family did.”
    Rachel: “They were rituals. Babies were sacrificed.”
    Winfrey: “Whose babies?”
    Rachel: “It was people raising babies for our family. Nobody knew about it. Many of the women were overweight, so you often didn’t notice a pregnancy. Or they would go away from that area for a while and come back later. I would like to point out that not all Jews sacrifice babies. It’s not typical of all Jews.”
    Winfrey: “This is the first time I’ve heard of Jews sacrificing babies. But you’ve witnessed it.”
    Rachel: “Yes, when I was very young, I was forced to sacrifice a child.”
    Winfrey: “What is the motive for the sacrifice. What were you sacrificing for?”
    Rachel: “For power.”
    Winfrey: “Ah, yes. Were you personally used for something?”
    Rachel: “I was molested, raped several times.”
    Winfrey: “What did your mother do? What was her role?”
    Rachel: “What her role was exactly, I don’t know. But her family was extremely involved in the victimizations. My parents brought me to my mother’s family.”
    Winfrey: “Where is your mother now?”
    Rachel: “She lives in the Chicago area and maintains good relations with the city government. She’s a normal citizen, no one would suspect her.”
    Winfrey: “Can you tell the difference between right and wrong, Rachel?”
    Rachel: “Yes. I think I had both, outwardly. Everything we did during the day was fine. But then there were the nights that changed things. Everything was upside down. What was right was wrong. And what was wrong was right.”
    Winfrey: “Is that what you now call ‘worshiping the devil’ in your family? It was just evil what you did.”
    Rachel: “Yes, I did bad and they told me it was good. There’s a book I came across recently. Lith’s Cave. Jewish Tales of the Supernatural. (Lith’s Cave. Jewish Tales of the Supernatural). It is a book about Jewish mysticism and about the supernatural. There is much in the book that coincides with what I had to suffer in my youth.
    “Rachel” is said to have disappeared without a trace since then.
    There is an undeniable obsession with blood among Jewry. I call it blood thirst, hence all the Jewish wars. The Jew loves nothing more than the spill of whites’ blood.

    When the Jew gained the power over the Ukraina (with lies, theft, murder and nepotism) he firstly transferred white girls (ca. 30.000) to Israhell. For the Jews’ organ trade special airstrips were put down in the Ukraina etc.pp.

    Russia (ntv.ru) even made a small TV crime series with a famous actor about that kind of evil.

  355. @Kurt Knispel

    Thanks for a relevant and informative post.

    There’s diabolic evil afoot in the world, no doubt about it (has been for a very long time, it seems) and for the time being, it’s public veneer is Klaus Schwab.

    One might do some research on the subject of Adrenochrome to get an inkling of the sort of horrors habitually practiced by the elite classes, and Ukraine has allegedly been playing its part since 2014.

    The numerous American bioweapons labs lately revealed in Ukraine are just one facet of a larger genocidal ecosystem. It’s looking a lot like the puppet Zelensky is determined to make a blood sacrifice of Ukraine.

  356. @Kurt Knispel

    Yes, I think Georgia will have to be dealt with again and this time Tbilisi will not be left off the hook like in 2008.

  357. Here’s Tucker Carlson covering the American response to the Russian intervention in Ukraine.

    What does this have to do with the numerous American bioweapon labs discovered by the Russians in Ukraine? The hints are evident here and there throughout Tucker’s monologue.

    The answer is that they are just one piece in a larger puzzle – a diabolic scheme to grind us all into the dirt and bring down the world so that we can “Build Back Better”.

    I highly recommend Martin Armstrong’s running observations at ArmstrongEconomics.com for a fairly comprehensive summary of what’s likely coming. His AI program called Socrates has been nailing major world events to the day for decades now, and Socrates says 2022 will see a population die-off while 2023 will be a war year.

    Make of the Ukraine situation (and the two years prior) what you will, but the real pain is still coming.

    • Agree: Kiza
  358. Emslander says:
    @TG

    I mean, the research is ‘sexy’ and it’s easy to get funded, and nobody wants to work in a bunker in the middle of nowhere, so I understand the pressures here – but still, why are we doing this?

    As someone who lives in the middle of nowhere, I support biolabs in our cities. That’s where most of the corruption and psychic disease comes from anyway, right?

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  359. @Wizard of Oz

    Why shouldn’t Iran’s buying or building missiles justify an attack by Israel

    Why SHOULD Iran’s buying or building missiles justify an attack by Israel?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  360. @Emslander

    As someone who lives in the middle of nowhere, I support biolabs in our cities.

    As someone who lives in the vicinity of a sprawling city, I support Tsar Bomba dead center over each the agencies which commissioned said biolabs.

    And one immediately over the fat ugly head of that homicidal pig Cookies Nuland, because I really really don’t like her very much.

  361. Kiza says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    US is the main accuser of Russia for its “completely unprovoked” attack on Ukraine and the main denier of its own WMD activities in the countries surrounding Russia. I can remember the limitless outrage at US for its completely illegal second attack on Iraq, all this hate directed at any US citizen for this one of the biggest crimes in human history. Of course not, all Western shitbag nations pretended that attacking Iraq and killing around 1 million people was all kosher (because it was all done for Israeli interests).

    In contrast, the Russians are now establishing their case for both the preemptive war on the basis of 60-100K Ukrainian troops being on the verge of attacking the Russian population of Donbas and the preventative war on the basis of US & Ukrainian WMD, both biological and nuclear. Only you would not notice this in Australia due to an incessantly screaming neurotic Western propaganda.

    Putin cured Covid in the West by replacing Covid pornography in media with Russia hating and bashing. The Australian Prime Minister sent \$70-100M of our money to Ukraine, whilst giving a generous \$1,000 to the victims of flooding in regional NSW who lost their houses and everything. But these were the same Prime Minister and parliament who gladly permitted the Australian states to coerce population into dangerous “vaccines”.

  362. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Why do you think the ABC channel thought they had 4 separate intelligence sources?

    Because that’s what the ABC News article written by its Chief Investigative Reporter said in its first sentence:

    As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

    …you seem to think Trump’s Secretary of Defense’s initial answer separatethat he couldn’t remember it was.

    As to that, have you looked for a recording of that answer? What exactly was put to him…

    The ABC News clip on Youtube I linked upthread shows George Stephanopolous asking Secretary of Defense Mark Esper that question on camera and his answer was that “he couldn’t remember.” I’ll provide it one more time:

    Since you seem not to have looked at the ABC News story or watched the ABC News clip despite my repeated citations of those, I think I’ll just have to give up on you, and conclude that you’re just as totally empty-headed as all the commenters have long since concluded.

  363. Milton says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    The duly-elected President of Ukraine was overthrown in a violent, illegal coup sponsored by Obama-Biden-Nuland in 2014. That is the genesis of this present crisis.

    Also, Russia was actually legally and morally required to invade Ukraine, as Russia was a signatory to the Minsk Agreements, which the Obama/Biden-installed Kiev Junta had consistently violated since 2015.

    Legally, Russia had exhausted all non-military solutions to the violations of the Minsk Agreements by the Kiev Junta.

    Morally, Russia is acting in the tradition of the Just War Doctrine which says that it is perfectly just to use force to disarm an unjust aggressor.

  364. anon[274] • Disclaimer says:

    China has been the victim of a Bio”BAT”Weapon with 57 different variaties. That is the reason for creating US multiple labs. The Chinese empire is now gone.

  365. @Wizard of Oz

    The wizzard of frauds from Oz keeps on trucking, spouting is lawyer’s lies, to wit:

    “No, you completely mistake my approach. If I were defending a criminal case I would be pointing out that proof beyond reasonable doubt is not the same in every case as even some lawyers might carelessly say. Cp. Conviction for shoplifting with conviction for stealing from the back storeroom after beating up and stabbing an employee who gets in the way. I don’t like bad arguments and UR is a good site to find one’s which are just plausible enough to be worth testing and correcting.”

    He is, of course, both correfct and wrong, which makes it a lawyer’s lie.

    The lie is the proof beyond a reasonable doubt “is not the same in every case”, and as evidence he desribes two entire different fact situations: a shoplifter and some beating and stabbing an employee while committing a theft.

    In boith cases, however, the proof necessary to covict must establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. There is not the slightest doubt about that.

    Where is he correct, of course, is that the actual evidence necessary to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt must necessarily differ in the two cases because they involve vastly different actions that must be established were committed by the accused to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    But by how he has verbalized the issue poses a complete lawyers lie that is bound up in his original claim.

    The wizzard of oz thus remains the fraud lurking behind the curtain in Oz.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  366. gatobart says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I haven’t read what PCR is saying right now but you can be sure I second EVERYTHING he has been writing for the last decade, specially when it comes to Putin’s policy towards NATO, which can be resumed in one or two question: When will Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin get that the people he is dealing with in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin are not normal, fair, well intentioned people but nothing more than a bunch of criminal imbeciles…? When will he stop taking slap in the face after slap in the face and finally put his pants…? Now, if he is calling at this moment for harsher action from Russia it would mean that I am one of the moderates…!

    As I said, I still think that the invasion was a military blunder and that the most appropriate course of action was the Israeli way. There is something in a neighbour nation that bothers you, missiles, military installations, mysterious research facilities. You tell them to take them down. They don’t, you bomb them and flatten them. And with no warning or ultimatum whatsoever, you do it when no one expects you to do so they won’t be able to put the specialized professionals out of harm way so do you a total job on them. That is they way Moscow should have dealt with this situation, IMO.

  367. Spanky says:
    @The Old Philosopher

    The Wiz is here to inject uncertainty and steer the gullible toward The Narrative. Whatever the topic, his arguments and theories neatly align with prevailing imperial interests. Why does someone so learned, erudite and experienced, as the Wiz self-represents continually, persist in wasting valuable time among Unz deplorables? Surely he is a saint, come to reveal the truth and save us from ourselves.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  368. @Jesus Evola

    Nobody will believe the truth if it is monstrous enough.
    The jumping spider Portia is one of the most sophisticated carnivores on the planet, capable of planning ahead for several days, and boasts a visual acuity that rivals that of humans, yet it usually fails to detect its arch-enemy, the mantis – because in relation to the spider, the mantis is huuuge.

  369. @Milton

    …overthrown in a violent, illegal coup …the genesis of this present crisis.

    A parliamentary vote, with a large majority, to formally remove a corrupt leader, who was responsible for a massacre of street demonstrators and subsequently fled the country, is not a violent and illegal coup. Through your lies you are thus tacitly endorsing authoritarianism and mass murder.

    There were no provision in the two Minsk agreements that authorized a Russian invasion in the event of a dispute, nor did Russia seek authorization from the UN to rectify the complaint under the R2P doctrine. Russia had neither a legal nor a moral right to launch an aggressive war against Ukraine.

    The philosophical “tradition” of the so-called Just War Doctrine originated in the 6th century and was superseded long ago by international treaties and agreements that rendered it invalid. Aside from that, the nature of the current invasions violates the principles of proportionality.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  370. gatobart says:
    @Levtraro

    No. you are completely wrong. What i actually said, and what I have been saying for a decade is that PUTIN”S FOREIGN POLICY TOWARDS THE “WEST” HAS BEEN CATASTROPHIC. And if you want to know why, I think that you only need to read Paul Craig Roberts. Because for all this time Putin seems to have been blinded by his unrequited love of the “West”, specially the U.S. and Germany, which has made him oblivious to many things, in the first place oblivious to the deep hatred against Russia in the West, even more in Western Europe than even in the U.S. itself..!

    A decade or so ago I tried to start reading again what was coming out of France as political writing, as I used to do during my student years, when we had a lot of that, specialty when it comes to political thinkers and analysts. The French were known in the past for being acute, knowledgeable, lucid and objective observers of the politics of the world. If there was a revolution in some remote place there they were, observing, analyzing, writing. For ex. there was an author, Regis Debray, who rode the mountains of Bolivia with Che Guevara and went to Chile to interview president Salvador Allende. That is the kind of French author and journalist I got to be used to in my younger years. Decades later I tried to get in touch with the same people again and to my horror I realized all what French authors and philosophers seem to be able to produce nowadays is nothing more than rabid Russophobic pamphlets. That may have been one of the main reasons why I concluded that the improvement in relations Putin was trying to achieve with the “West” was a fool’s errand. The “West” Putin was so in love with hates him, and Russia, and hates him for more than what he has done, because I am talking of a time when we was still a great guy for the MSM of the “West”. The extent of that hatred for Russia is now in the open, for all to see.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Levtraro
  371. @Old Brown Fool

    Not a new virus, just the Omicron variant that has infected millions of Australians since we decided that was the best strategy (mass vaccination and a milder strain). The Chinese are horrified if 1,000 are infected in a single day. [email protected]

  372. @SolontoCroesus

    My point if you stopped to think about it

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  373. @Kiza

    Tks it’s 4 am and I have to plan getting possibly cracked ribs X-rayed asap after 8am but hope to read

  374. @Ron Unz

    I ‘m so glad you made sure you made sure I saw all that again. It leaves me totally astonished that you don’t see it as making your positive belief in the smoking gun utterly incredible, beyond naive or wishful thinking. I see all sorts of would be deceivers rubbing their hands and wondering how someone born in the days of Marshall McLuhan’s fame could have missed so completely the lessons learned then about TV watch[ers][ing].. Sorry, you may need to watch more TV – and there are only 36 hours in a day I think you need those interns and twice daily chats wit them.

  375. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Yes, exactly, Adrenochrome!
    The Ukraina, all of Russia, as a matter of fact all of the North has been time and again a blood sacrifice, a Purim, a joy for the Jew. This week is Purim… They could call their Purim “Adrenochrome” instead…but then everybody would know (?)

  376. @Spanky

    No, I occasionally indulge those with pretensions far above the deplorable, and myself, with replying to people with intriguing monikers like Old Philosopher (very likely not if he were Anon) but my real compulsion to remain even reading UU goes back nearly 25 years to meeting Ron and his intriguingly amazing intellectual processes on H-Bd to which I has been invited. The only regular contributors I now read other than very exceptionaly, are H-Bd’s Ron, Steve Sailer and John Derbyshire plus James Thompson. Keeping tabs on Ron adds intriguing info for anyone presumptively in favour of high IQs but correspondingly interested in understanding the idiosyncrasies of outliers.

    • Replies: @The Old Philosopher
  377. R2b says:

    It is a spiel, in my opinion.
    Covid-laws are in preparation during this soft invasion.
    Ukraine was always a bargain, due to its composition.
    So focus on the absence of covid, that is what it’s all about!
    Crashing the West by several communist fractions is what it’s all about.
    It is part of the reset, wake up!

    • Replies: @ld
  378. Athena says:

    Podcast Show #28
    https://www.newsbud.com/2010/05/01/podcast-show-28/

    ”The Boiling Frogs Presents Professor Francis Boyle Professor Francis Boyle discusses the October 2001 anthrax attack, the technology behind the letter to Senator Daschle, and assesses the case based on his years of expertise with America’s bio-weapons programs, and as an expert who was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989…”

  379. ld says:
    @gatobart

    perhaps it is because comparatively Putin is several orders of magnitude better than anything fronting the US

  380. ld says:
    @R2b

    Trudeau and his work-wife are drooling at the prospects of welcoming the fleeing Banderites to their growing ranks. No need to fly in UN thugs to crack our heads when you can do the job in-house
    I know the acadmy award winning organ harvesters found their port in the storm in Canada
    No one else would have them

  381. Is this real?

    Yes, it is real.

    Consider that age-old adage about “the elephant in the room”.

    This is one such elephant.

    While the information resource that is the World Wide Web is still available to us (recall Klaus Schwab’s threat of a “global cyber attack”, together with technocratic efforts to strangle all counter-regime narratives and quarantine internet access according to our planned “social credit scores”), it might be instructive to research the use of Adrenochrome by elite satanists. Or search for the subject of “Panda Eyes”.

    There’s a hidden multi-trillion dollar industry in human and organ trafficking, pedophilia, child exploitation and ritual sacrifice thriving across the planet right now. Ukraine has allegedly been heavily involved in all of this.

    A good proportion of decent folk will have difficulty even approaching this matter – this awful reality and the implications for the world we are living in. Don’t take my word for it. Do your own research.

  382. MGB says:
    @Tucker

    Perhaps I’m autistic, but I didn’t see all the emotional tells attributed to Nuland and Rubio by Unz, Greenwald and others. Rubio couldn’t think that quickly on his feet, if Nuland had surprised him. I think we are looking at two traitors maneuvering themselves into position to profit from the China century, by proving their worth to the new hegemon. Mearsheimer and others are stuck scratching their heads over the US foreign policy blunder of driving the Russians and Chinese together. But that’s the old nationalist model. Under the China model, driving a weakened Russia to the East facilitates the quickening depression and disintegration of ‘the West’, shackles Russia to China, whose greatest asset is their natural resources for Chinese exploitation, and the US and Europe is told they have to become more ‘Chinese’ to compete. Fuck the history of Western culture and innovation, its social credit scores and cradle to grave bio-surveillance. Who knows exactly what Nudelman and Rubio are up to, but it has nothing to do with the interests of the nation state formerly known as the United States.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  383. @Been_there_done_that

    A parliamentary vote, with a large majority, to formally remove a corrupt leader, who was responsible for a massacre of street demonstrators and subsequently fled the country, is not a violent and illegal coup.

    Clearly we have people living in alternate realities.

    Here on Planet Earth, we have a telephone recording of Cookies Nuland plotting the logistics of the planned regime change in Ukraine, followed by that same psychotic pig strutting around Maidan square smiling and handing out cookies shortly before paid mercenary snipers commenced killing unarmed protesters and police alike to catalyse the overthrow of a democratically elected government that was just too friendly to Russia for the American neocons.

    And we have no less than Stratfor declaring that this was “the most blatant coup in history”. Their words, not mine. Ruthless, exceedingly violent, and all hidden in plain sight for the entire world to see, yet people living in their alternate reality choose not to see it.

    Through your lies you are thus tacitly endorsing authoritarianism and mass murder.

    Well, here’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black, if ever there was one. In fact, it’s worse than that – it’s a case of the pot (that’s you) calling the ivory white porcelain kettle black, because in this case the kettle is right, while the pot (that’s you) is living a lie immersed somewhere in an alternate reality.

  384. MGB says:

    It’s not its.

  385. @MGB

    Perhaps I’m autistic…

    Could be, could be – but that’s not a bad thing. Just look at Greta – no, wait…

    Rubio couldn’t think that quickly on his feet, if Nuland had surprised him. I think we are looking at two traitors maneuvering themselves into position to profit from the China century, by proving their worth to the new hegemon.

    Now you’re talking. It was a setup.

    But Cookies already proved her worth way back in 2014 by arranging the slaughter of innocents and installing a genocidal Nazi regime in Ukraine.

  386. Seraphim says:
    @Kiza

    You may say that she is too clever by half.

  387. Athena says:
    @Mevashir

    Apparently one of the big Russian concerns about Ukraine is that the Americans were pushing Monsanto GMO Terminator seeds on the Ukrainians

    Yes.

    “Doomsday Seed Vault” in the Arctic

    Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don’t

    [MORE]

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/doomsday-seed-vault-in-the-arctic-2/23503

    (excerpts)

    Genetically engineering a master race?

    ”Now the Svalbard Seed Bank begins to become interesting. But it gets better. ‘The Project’ I referred to is the project of the Rockefeller Foundation and powerful financial interests since the 1920’s to use eugenics, later renamed genetics, to justify creation of a genetically-engineered Master Race. Hitler and the Nazis called it the Ayran Master Race.

    The eugenics of Hitler were financed to a major extent by the same Rockefeller Foundation which today is building a doomsday seed vault to preserve samples of every seed on our planet.”

    GMO as a weapon of biowarfare?

    ”Now we come to the heart of the danger and the potential for misuse inherent in the Svalbard project of Bill Gates and the Rockefeller foundation. Can the development of patented seeds for most of the world’s major sustenance crops such as rice, corn, wheat, and feed grains such as soybeans ultimately be used in a horrible form of biological warfare?

    ”The explicit aim of the eugenics lobby funded by wealthy elite families such as Rockefeller, Carnegie, Harriman and others since the 1920’s, has embodied what they termed ‘negative eugenics,’ the systematic killing off of undesired bloodlines. Margaret Sanger, a rapid eugenicist, the founder of Planned Parenthood International and an intimate of the Rockefeller family, created something called The Negro Project in 1939, based in Harlem, which as she confided in a letter to a friend, was all about the fact that, as she put it, ‘we want to exterminate the Negro population.’ 11”

    ”A small California biotech company, Epicyte, in 2001 announced the development of genetically engineered corn which contained a spermicide which made the semen of men who ate it sterile. At the time Epicyte had a joint venture agreement to spread its technology with DuPont and Syngenta, two of the sponsors of the Svalbard Doomsday Seed Vault. Epicyte was since acquired by a North Carolina biotech company. Astonishing to learn was that Epicyte had developed its spermicidal GMO corn with research funds from the US Department of Agriculture, the same USDA which, despite worldwide opposition, continued to finance the development of Terminator technology, now held by Monsanto.

    ”In the 1990’s the UN’s World Health Organization launched a campaign to vaccinate millions of women in Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines between the ages of 15 and 45, allegedly against Tentanus, a sickness arising from such things as stepping on a rusty nail. The vaccine was not given to men or boys, despite the fact they are presumably equally liable to step on rusty nails as women.”

    ”Because of that curious anomaly, Comite Pro Vida de Mexico, a Roman Catholic lay organization became suspicious and had vaccine samples tested. The tests revealed that the Tetanus vaccine being spread by the WHO only to women of child-bearing age contained human Chorionic Gonadotrophin or hCG, a natural hormone which when combined with a tetanus toxoid carrier stimulated antibodies rendering a woman incapable of maintaining a pregnancy. None of the women vaccinated were told.”

    ”It later came out that the Rockefeller Foundation along with the Rockefeller’s Population Council, the World Bank (home to CGIAR), and the United States’ National Institutes of Health had been involved in a 20-year-long project begun in 1972 to develop the concealed abortion vaccine with a tetanus carrier for WHO. In addition, the Government of Norway, the host to the Svalbard Doomsday Seed Vault, donated \$41 million to develop the special abortive Tetanus vaccine. 12”

    ”Is it a coincidence that these same organizations, from Norway to the Rockefeller Foundation to the World Bank are also involved in the Svalbard seed bank project? According to Prof. Francis Boyle who drafted the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 enacted by the US Congress, the Pentagon is ‘now gearing up to fight and win biological warfare’ as part of two Bush national strategy directives adopted, he notes, ‘without public knowledge and review’ in 2002. Boyle adds that in 2001-2004 alone the US Federal Government spent \$14.5 billion for civilian bio-warfare-related work, a staggering sum.”

    ”Rutgers University biologist Richard Ebright estimates that over 300 scientific institutions and some 12,000 individuals in the USA today have access to pathogens suitable for biowarfare. Alone there are 497 US Government NIH grants for research into infectious diseases with biowarfare potential. Of course this is being justified under the rubric of defending against possible terror attack as so much is today.”

    ”Many of the US Government dollars spent on biowarfare research involve genetic engineering. MIT biology professor Jonathan King says that the ‘growing bio-terror programs represent a significant emerging danger to our own population.’ King adds, ‘while such programs are always called defensive, with biological weapons, defensive and offensive programs overlap almost completely.’ 13”

    Time will tell whether, God Forbid, the Svalbard Doomsday Seed Bank of Bill Gates and the Rockefeller Foundation is part of another Final Solution, this involving the extinction of the Late, Great Planet Earth.”

    • Thanks: Spanky
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  388. Athena says:

    https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/bushs-secret-germ-warfare-program

    ”Boyle traces advocacy for aggressive biowarfare back to the neo-conservative Project for a New American Century(PNAC), whose members, including Paul Wolfowitz, later influenced President Geoge Bush’s military and foreign policy. Before assuming his current post as World Bank head, Wolfowitz served Bush as deputy secretary of defense. Before the anthrax attacks on Congress, PNAC advocated “advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool,” Boyle wrote in “Biowarfare and Terrorism,” (Clarity Press). Biological warfare inolves the use of living organisms for military purposes. Such weapons can be viral, bacterial, and fungal, among other forms, and can be spread over a large geographic terrain by wind, water, insect, animal, or human transmission, according to Jeremy Rifkin, author of “The Biotech Century”(Penguin). Rifkin has written “it is widely acknowledged that it is virtually impossible to distinguish between defensive and offensive research in the field.”

  389. Athena says:

    Putin: US-Funded Bioterror Labs in Ukraine Released Anthrax and Plague

    https://truth11.com/2022/03/07/putin-us-funded-bioterror-labs-in-ukraine-released-anthrax-and-plague/

    ”Russian President Vladimir Putin has produced documents proving that the US-funded bioterror labs in Ukraine were releasaing dangerous pathogens such as anthrax, the plague, cholera and tularemia near the Russian border.”

    “In the course of the special military operation, evidence of the Kiev regime’s hasty measures to conceal any traces of the military biological program financed by the US Department of Defense in Ukraine has been revealed,” Russian Ministry of Defense spokesperson Igor Konashenkov declared.

    “Now the documents are being analyzed by Russian specialists of the troops of radiation, chemical and biological protection,” he warned.

    ”One document shows a list of the dangerous microbes being tested at the lab.”

    US Embassy removed all their Ukraine Bioweapon lab documents from the website.
    https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/

    They removed all the PDF files from the embassy website here https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/kyiv/sections-offices/defense-threat-reduction-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/

    The good news is they are still archived

    [MORE]
    https://web.archive.org/web/20170130193016/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-kharkiv-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20210511164310/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-luhansk-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170221125752/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-dnipropetrovsk-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20210506053014/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-vinnitsa-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170221125752/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-dnipropetrovsk-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170207122550/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-kherson-fact-sheet-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170223011502/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-ternopil-fact-sheet-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170208032526/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-zakarpatska-fact-sheet-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170208032526/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-zakarpatska-fact-sheet-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170202040923/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-lviv-dl-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170201004446/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-lviv-rdvl-eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20161230143004/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-eidss.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20210506212717/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-pathogen-asset-control.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170207153023/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-dnipropetrovsk-rdvl_eng.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170211022339/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/kiev-ivm-fact-sheet-eng.pdf

    These labs are reporedly co-run by Fauci’s EcoHealth Alliance and rumor is Russia’s entire military operation right now is unofficially to either secure and/or destroy these labs and gather evidence.

    Original Article: https://newspunch.com/putin-us-funded-bioterror-labs-in-ukraine-released-anthrax-and-plague/

  390. @Wizard of Oz

    Your identifier exposes your purpose as the fraud of OZ who was the man behind the curtain pretending to be a wizzard.

    And true to form, the wizzard was actually a snake oil salesman Dorothy met before she was knocked out by something blown by the wind.

    Once people realize the origin of your identity, they can thoroughly innoculate themselves against the frauds you keep trying to perpetrate on this site without even trying hard.

    Keep it up fraudster. I can play you as long as you like.

    • Thanks: Swaytonious
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  391. @Ron Unz

    I’m repeating this on a thread unambiguously about Ukraine consistently with the supreme importance I accord its subject matter.

    [MORE]

    *** *** ***

    Now get real Ron. Here’s te chance for you to cancel all the cancels and go from eccentric outsider to national and international hero in one leap.

    Have a look at this which came up in my Inbox from a source I rarely find time for.

    https://theconversation.com/3-ways-russia-has-shown-military-incompetence-during-its-invasion-of-ukraine-178895

    Given that the biggest problem faced by the West in undoing 30 years of arrogant ignorance and incompetence e in dealing with Russia is the extent to which anti Western pro Putin attitudes have been embedded in the Russian population by education and TV it is vital that undeniably credible media products be got into Russian heads.

    It is beyond my comprehension that the methods I have proposed to break through haven’t been tried. You would have been quick to point to my obvious foolishness.

    My earlier ideas progressed from distributing from eastward floating balloons millions of pamphlets to distributing millions of mass produced electronic memory devices for easy plug ins to view films, interviews etc. Now I see no reason to confine distribution to balloons. All sorts of drones and casual drops by individuals into cattle trucks and milk distributors – mainly to drive the authorities frantic and to do stupid counter-productive things – is the way to go.

    Add now tens of thousands of \$5 Rasberry Pi computers that I am sorry to say I have only just heard of and you give hope to every dissident.

    The man who can organise that team you ad to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers can do it and has no excuse not to try. Instead of swatting g foolish trivia make this your finest hour. OK tell me about the battle that may ensue when success has pushed rattled Putin forces into trying to persuade the mass Russian mind that quite evidently genuine film is fake. You’ve won if they just go back to classicallycynical Soviet era attitudes.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  392. @Ultrafart the Brave

    If you are only relying on that one famous “F**k the EU” recording you are way behind the starting line for your case. Just listen to it and say why I shouldn’t believe my honest Ukrainian contacts who reject all varieties of your version.

    Help me with chapter and verse, the ipsissima verba, of proof of your version out of US/CIA/Ukrainian mouths

  393. Spanky says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Given that the biggest problem faced by the West in undoing 30 years of arrogant ignorance and incompetence e in dealing with Russia is the extent to which anti Western pro Putin attitudes have been embedded in the Russian population by education and TV it is vital that undeniably credible media products be got into Russian heads. — Wizard of Oz

    And what undeniably credible source for these media products would you suggest? Western corporate media? The same media that protects Dementia Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, from public scrutiny and criticism? That seamlessly pivoted from suppressing effective, inexpensive COVID treatments and promoting mass mandatory vaccinations with enormously profitable experimental mRNA vaccines to cheerleading for even more Russia and Putin hate? That for years claimed Russia interfered with a U.S. election to install Trump as Putin’s puppet?

    While I agree that the biggest problem faced by the West in [sic] undoing 30 years of arrogant ignorance and incompetence e [sic] in dealing with Russia, you now propose doubling down on that arrogance, ignorance and incompetence…

    Man behind the curtain indeed.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  394. @Ultrafart the Brave

    I’ve been looking for the comment to which the following was .eant to be the reply after I had scored my hard in an hour but this will have to do….

    Tell me how Russia can be hurt by Macdonald’s “closing down” in Rusia? A Russian company – maybe an employee’s cooperative – old take over this low te h, low IP business without a pause. Now let me offer for free an story line congenial to you and most UR threadsters.

    How about the losing down of Macdoald’s in Russia is just what Jewish oligarchs or wannabes are asking for so they can step in and pick up the business for peanuts.

    It could be true and it’s a perfect UR – and RU – “Jews behaving badly explanation” that can be treated as requiring very little actual evidence in its favour to enjoy a presumption of truth. N’est-ce pas?

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  395. W says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    I noticed you avoided the issue of why a biolab was there in the first place.

    Since all the favorite excuses for Russia’s unprovoked war of aggression in Ukraine have been debunked

    Providing an alternative explanation is not debunking, are you a pseudo skeptic or something?

  396. @Ultrafart the Brave

    …a telephone recording of Cookies Nuland plotting the logistics of the planned regime change in Ukraine…

    Of course there are alternative realities, but your confused understanding is stuck in fantasy-land, which is the purpose of misleading propaganda, also known as “mind control”, “opinion shaping”, or “perception management”.

    I have already written about that tapped phone conversation in various threads and have even provided a link to the entire transcript for convenient verification. Your brief claim, cited in the quote above, contains four false presumptions (plotting, logistics, planned, regime change), You will not be able to provide any credible evidence for any of them in that conversation because they are easily contradicted.

    You can scroll to my message #296 above, in this thread, for some aspects of that phone conversation, which likely occurred many weeks after Nuland handed out cookies, on December 11, 2013. Obviously you are too lazy to have bothered to research the issue because you prefer to reflexively post nonsense that conforms to your distorted belief system.

    …killing unarmed protesters and police alike to catalyse the overthrow of a democratically elected government…

    Six days ago I addressed this topic in detail, within a message that was subsumed by the moderator under the [MORE] tab. I criticized the same falsely imputed presumptions that you have made. The clarification was in response to the following question:

    How do you explain the snipers that killed people on both sides?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-putin-as-hitler/#comment-5218391

    Here it is again:

    You provided a link to a paper that has 79 pages, which investigates the shootings on February 20, 2014. According to reports, at least a hundred demonstrators died. The term “both sides” can easily conceal a strongly disproportionate ratio. For instance, this was the case in the Odessa fire of May 2, 2014. Though some police officers got shot in Kiev, it is not evident that they were the intended targets, though the demonstrators definitely were. The paper acknowledges that the massacre of demonstrators was widely attributed to Yanukovych.

    The methodology used in the retrospective analysis appears to be rather superficial, hence seriously flawed:

    This study relies on the rational choice theoretical framework and the Weberian theory of rational action, and it employs interpretative and content analyses of a variety of sources.

    Imputing rational choices in a situation that was emotionally charged is one flaw. A much bigger flaw is that it is based on a version of the so-called slippery slope argument, which essentially presumes perfect foreknowledge. Alternatively, it posits that a particular action will necessarily lead to a specific sequence of events, among the many possible permutations. This is evident from the following quote:

    However, the widely accepted narrative of the massacre appears irrational from both rational choice and Weberian instrumentally rational action perspectives. Yanukovych and his associates lost all of their power and much of their wealth, and fled from Ukraine as a result of this mass killing, since this massacre of protesters undermined his and his government’s legitimacy, even among the many deputies of his Party of Regions who joined the opposition and voted to remove him from the presidency.

    The flawed argument presented is thus: Since the repercussions of the killings eventually wound up having had an unfavorable outcome for Yanukovych, he, who was surely logically infallible and could only have ever made rational choices (even spontaneously), must have surely foreseen that the situation would inevitably backfire in the manner that it did, so that he cannot have been the instigator. This smart-ass presumptuousness is nothing more than what is called Monday morning quarterbacking.

    With this kind of ridiculous methodology as the guiding premise, one can always conclude that an action with an unintended outcome must have surely been a false-flag operation. How convenient to adopt this kind of approach. It is therefore not necessary to read the 79 pages.

    • Troll: Arthur MacBride, ld
  397. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    OK, I read your comment and here is my reply. You’re still yelling in caps but you wrote more succintly.

    Because for all this time Putin seems to have been blinded by his unrequited love of the “West”, specially the U.S. and Germany, …

    You’re exaggerating of course but change “love” for “respect” and you’d be right. And why not to respect the USA and Germany? What kind of fanaticism would deny the fact that the USA and Germany are nations composed of great peoples, peoples to be respected?

    The USA is declining under poor management but that doesn’t mean it is not one of the best stocks of human talent, its European parts. And Germany is the industrial engine of Europe. Any reasonable head of state would try to get along well and have productive relationships with those two countries, at the business and govt level.

    Even if their management was antagonistic it would make sense to do business with them for as long as possible to gather strength out of the business connections. Especially when Russia’s economy needed to be strenghtened, made more resilient, her military needed to be updated and improved, and the resolve of your rival needed to be softened.

  398. @Ron Unz

    I have found time by being too mean to take my probably cracked rib to a private hospital instead of the equidistant public hospital where I expect to pay nothing. So…. I’ve heard every word of Glenn Greenwald’s enthusiastically wordy account of what we don’t know, as he repeatedly emphasises, but should be intrigued about.

    He doesn’t describe his presentation as being “on America’s biowarfare programs” so why do you tendentiously beg the question by saying that such a program is indeed the avowed subject of his presentation? The real proven point is that there is no effective or clear rule that would, if obeyed, prevent the development of biological weapons.

    If the labs in Ukraine were found to have stockpiled much greater stockpiles of mutant or genetically engineered variants than could be needed for testing or for developing vaccines or cures that would be good evidence of breach of the treaty but, absent any proof of that, I can’t see the argument going anywhere.

    I agree that the legal and enforcement situation is very unsatisfactory and that new deadly diseases whose pathogens existed in small quantities could probably be quickly turned into the basis for germ warfare.

    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
  399. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    Your comment deserves a bit more attention in the light of today’s note by PCR, so here I go again.

    What i actually said, and what I have been saying for a decade is that PUTIN”S FOREIGN POLICY TOWARDS THE “WEST” HAS BEEN CATASTROPHIC. And if you want to know why, I think that you only need to read Paul Craig Roberts.

    I’ve been reading him. He makes a similar point about how wrong Russia was to try to be friends with the West though he does it in a less theatrical manner compared to what you write. There is a new note out today by PCR about sanctions and Russian policies and they seem to reflect well what you are arguing using your flamboyant leftist style. He says that Russia is making two errors:

    (1) “One is that Russia wants to prove that she is a reliable business partner that fulfills her contracts and doesn’t use trade relations as a weapon. But what good does this do Russia when the US and Europe are not reliable business partners and do use trade as a weapon? As Russia is the only reliable partner in the deal, Russia is taken for a ride.”

    What PCR does not understand is that the message that Russia is a reliable business partner is not directed the US and Europe in general, it is directed specifically to their business leadership, and in particular to European business leadership. While eurocrats go ahead and hurt their businesses (banks, airlines, tourism, industry) without any kind of consultation to defend their woke liberal ideology and US hegemonic games, Russia keeps the flow of raw materials to those EU companies that pay for them. Russia divides and gets paid for it.

    If there is a force in Europe that can dial down politicians and media hysteria is their business class, since the populace needs a lot more time to realize the harm they are doing to them.

    (2) “The other erroneous reason is that Russia’s economists and central bank, brainwashed by US neoliberal economists, believe Russia cannot develop without foreign exchange. The central bank even thinks that it cannot create rubles to finance investment projects unless the rubles are backed up by foreign exchange. ”

    What PCR does not understand, because he seems to be falling into MMT (the new Marxist economic thinking) tautological traps, is that a currency based on something objective (not just “confidence”) such as foreign currency reserves and gold, provides resilience and stability to the economy and it additionally contradicts one of the basic tenets of US hegemony. Since objectively some foreign currencies are becoming less reliable, Russia has been reducing her reliance on them and increasing her reliance on other, reliable currencies and gold. Simply creating rubles, as advocated by PCR, is an attempt to replicate a model that only works for the USA.

    • Agree: DevilAdvocate
    • Replies: @gatobart
  400. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Ultra, you are simply wasting energy trying to reason with the ziotroll been-there. Same with Wizzy. They are just here to spam up dialog and though I am reluctant to put people on Ignore, that’s what I’ll do with the pair of them today.

    They are just a pair of waster ziotrolls, nothing more.

    PS Amazing to see so many blanks — these are professional trolls, no doubt.

    • Agree: Levtraro, ld, DevilAdvocate
    • Thanks: Spanky, Swaytonious
  401. @Wizard of Oz

    The man who has noithing to say says nothing. Good choice.

  402. @Wielgus

    We’re they the sacrifice dudes or was that the Aztecs.. or was it both?

  403. @meamjojo

    More like what nationalists.. and the main stream is full of Jewish supremacists aka Zionists .

  404. @d dan

    As if we have control of our government which is even now plotting to obliterate us.

  405. @Wizard of Oz

    I’ve been looking for the comment to which the following was .eant to be the reply…

    I suggest you keep looking.

    Or maybe look a bit harder for your meds.

    Like the spaced-out vagrant on a street corner accosting random passers-by…

  406. @Spanky

    Real nuclear war doesn’t have the fallout we’ve been conditioned to believe. Nukes are set off high in the air to spread their destructive potential.. this, if the stem never connects with the mushroom cap of the cloud the only fallout is from the bomb case itself. The situation where their is enormous fallout requires a surface burst instead of an airburst.. this is a very wasteful use of a nuke.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  407. gatobart says:
    @Levtraro

    I don’t like psychologists a dime a dozen analyzing ME and my writing style instead of the content of what i write (who are you, my writing style officer, my editor, the Saker…?. That’s why I stopped commenting in his page) So, Bye. And I dont even have to read your comments.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  408. Wokechoke says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’ll trump your theory. The Covid19 thing was a prelude to a war. Handing out masks happened before ww2 in France and UK.

  409. Spanky says:
    @Swaytonious

    In other words, where the weapon detonates — air or ground burst — determines the amount of fallout from the blast and depends upon the intent of the party launching it. Got it. So, hardened and/or underground missile silos, command and control centers, bunkers and revetments, and so forth will be targeted by… air bursts?

    Air bursts are used for soft targets; naval bases, airfields, army posts, infrastructure…

    BTW, I read my first books on philosophy semi-comfortably nestled among W68 MIRVs in missile house upper level (cool and quiet). Where were you on Nov. 4, 1979? I was at battle stations missile…

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  410. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    I think I addressed the contents of your writing. I am saddened by your refusal to argue with me but totally respect your choice.

  411. @Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosque

    Every article posted here – every single one- has a number of folks claiming the Jews did it what’ever’n’hell it is or was

    Your logic appears to be overlooking the rather salient and critical central point that, ten times out of ten, the Jews DID do it. That being the case, please feel free to label me a proud and permanent card-carrying member of the International Foundation for Publication of the Fact that “The Jews Did It”.

    Idiot.

  412. @Charles Martel France

    Reporting by Jennifer Rigby and (((Jonathan Landay))); Editing by Michele (((Gershberg))) and (((Howard Goller)))

    LOL

    Three Jewish “journalists” as “impartial Reporters” supporting the Ukraine / USA lies and rubbishing the Russian allegations.

    No shit – Really ?

  413. @Spanky

    Sure.. bunker busting nukes will be employed.. but that is only in certain areas.. I’m just responding to the line there won’t be anywhere to go.. I disagree with that.

    In 79 I was still a twinkle in my father’s eye.. he was a green beret back then serving in South America. If that line was meant to be a dig, I ask where you where during the summer of 07? I was walking around Baghdad with a rifle.. not hiding behind a missile key… If it wasn’t, cheers.

    • Replies: @Spanky
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  414. Spanky says:
    @Swaytonious

    Cheers then, it wasn’t. And there is no hiding behind a missile key — once you launch everybody knows, damn near immediately, exactly where you are.

    You can disagree, but it’s wishful thinking — I don’t think you understand the scale of a nuclear exchange. We carried over 200 MIRVs. One boat. Current boats carry up to 288 MIRVs with 300 to 450 kt each. Targets get multiple warheads — redundancy.

    Near where we live, I count five first strike targets within a 250-mile radius. Three are naval stations. The sub base will get a minimum of 5 or 6 strikes and the surface base at least 3 to 4 (these bracket a large coastal city) and the nearby naval air station a minimum of 3. There is also a joint command center on an airbase, 3 to 4 minimum, with at least 1 at ground level (this is in the middle of another large coastal city). Another very large rural airbase will get 5 to 6 minimum, with at least 2 at ground level for its hardened revetments…

    My low side estimate is 19 weapons within that 250-mile radius, 14 within a 150-mile radius, and 6 within a 100-mile mile radius. With a little luck and a fresh offshore breeze, we’ll likely survive the first wave unscathed. But what then? Because of EMP, no electricity, no running water, no cars… and there will be radiological contamination — how bad depends mainly upon which way the wind blows.

    Now consider those remaining 269 warheads yet to launch, the other 5 boats on patrol in the Pacific and Atlantic, land-based ICBMs, sea and air-launched cruise missiles… it’s more or less the same on the Russian side.

    There are no winners in a nuclear exchange.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  415. @Ukraine Tiger

    Just an element within the country. Most of us are Russians or at least sympathetic towards Russia

    No, in fact. Not really. I don’t honestly believe you could class the Jew President of Ukraine – or any of the Jew oligarchs or the other international Zio scum sponsors backing him as anything but “enormously hostile to its nuclear-armed Russian neighbor”.

  416. @Spanky

    Oh what a lack of imagination! You are saying in effect that nothing you gave old fashioned TV watching Russians to watch and listen to on a screen would ever get through to any appreciable number of them.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  417. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Wasn’t that quite a good UR type line nonetheless?

  418. chowfun says:

    “Biowarfare Conspiracy Theories.” Well here is another one. Personally I don’t believe that Nuland’s admission of so-called “biological research facilities” was just some massively inadvertent slip of the tongue but a carefully orchestrated bit of psychological manipulation on both her and Marco Rubio’s part to craft a pre-arranged narrative of Russian culpability in the event the U.S. or the Ukrainians with U.S. collusion decide to stage a false-flag chemical/biological attack within Ukraine’s borders. I don’t think I need remind anyone that ever since Rubio dropped that little bit of manipulative double-speak in the rehearsed back and forth between him and Nuland (“If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that, 100 percent, it would be the Russians?”) we have been hearing louder and louder cries of how a Russian chemical/biological attack is not only likely but immanent being played up by both MSM and government officials which is starting to make my conspiracy alarm bells start to ring since any chemical/biological attack would give the U.S. and NATO the justification it would need to pounce with all the military might it could bring to bear.

  419. @chowfun

    Personally I don’t believe that Nuland’s admission of so-called “biological research facilities” was just some massively inadvertent slip of the tongue but a carefully orchestrated bit of psychological manipulation on both her and Marco Rubio’s part…

    That’s right, Dude, it was a bald-faced lying setup.

    It’s Cookies Nuland, after all – that Satanic pig-faced homicidal psycho who gets a kick out of organising massacres and installing Nazi regimes.

    Pity both she and Rubio weren’t on a diplomatic “goodwill” visit (with Cookies doing what she does – handing out cookies) sitting in the canteen at the Ukrainian training center near Lviv when Mr Kalibre came a-knocking. Karma’s a bitch, but not nearly so much as pig-faced demon-spawn Nuland (hey, we can dream).

    https://anti-empire.com/shaken-foreign-volunteers-flee-ukraine-after-base-hit-by-russian-cruise-missiles-ex-marine-reports/

    http://thesaker.is/three-important-missile-strikes/

  420. Spanky says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You simply want to ply the Russians with the same shit programming mesmerizing the west for the usual suspects. It’s you who lacks imagination, merely carrying water for the men behind the curtain. You could pull that curtain back, but instead revel in your servitude. Do you live well on their thirty pieces of silver?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  421. RobinG says:

    In which Newsweek corrects itself (extensively!) and de facto supports Tulsi’s concern about Ukraine biolabs…….

    Tulsi Gabbard Demands Romney Resign After Calling Her a ‘Treasonous Liar’
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tulsi-gabbard-demands-romney-resign-after-calling-her-a-treasonous-liar/ar-AAV2qbh?ocid=msedgntp

  422. @Spanky

    Do I really have to spell it out? Maybe you didn’t read my perhaps far out suggestion.

    You get unto the hands of the lumpe, TV watcher in Russia something with plot or production values which will at least make them want to try it and to come back for more. The proposition is very McLuhanesque. You get them watching and use all the tricks to insinuate the ideas you want to take hold.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  423. @Harold Smith

    I probably should’ve said the hybrid war against China of which the trade war was a part. Anyway, as Trump steadily escalated tensions with China throughout his term (with provocations that began even before he was even inaugurated)…

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, as the Good Book says…

  424. Arepli says:

    This article lead-in is boilerplate Unz:

    I’d seen some of the same Russian accusations swirling around the Internet, and hadn’t paid much attention.

    This is Ron’s default stance to the uncanny.

    Then:

    Several days ago a mainstream policy analyst dropped me a note mentioning that the Russians were claiming to have discovered the existence of a network of biowarfare labs in Ukraine, funded by the American Pentagon and allegedly working with anthrax and plague. Given that much of my focus over the last two years had been on America’s biowarfare program and its possible deployment, he wondered what I thought about the matter.

    So, per usual, Ron leads of with a statement of casual disregard for a topic, which any sane reader knows is pure internet bullshit, including Ron, or evidence of a true ET visitation, then something gets Ron’s attention, which implicitly elevates what Ron knowns to be bullshit into his credence. Next step Ron begs a huge question with intense implications, should any of Ron’s subsequent conjectures even remotely true but with zero supporting evidence, just a bunch of hoo-hah.

    Ron has repeated this rhetorical gambit like a mantra, and I can’t believe Ron thinks anyone doesn’t notice, so it comes off as a sort of strange lacunae, or brain damage.

    But this post has a new feature!

    Ron drops a reference to himself via a contrived third party, who anecdotally informs Ron of the question to be begged. This provides a ‘kick’, elevating Ron’s inception to a new level. Ron is now an advisor to others and therefore a news authority. The topic takes on a whole new air of legitimacy! Ron is a respected reference, you will unconsciously credit him with domain expertise that in many other articles he’s admitted that he does not possess. From here a thousand more words of babble will be shoveled onto this wholly contrived topic. In future articles Ron will refer to these counts of words as by the sheer heft of numbers will cover a documentary status to the question that was begged.

    The pile keeps growing and it’s too much work to review so now it’s as good as true. Fake knowledge is successfully fabricated.

    In the future, if any wild conjecture pans out, Ron is Nostradamus.

    All that’s missing is a target… It seems Ron is still working on this angle. Maybe the fakery is being shopped into other markets with little crossover to Unzcom.

    Genius!

    Or tedious…

    You decide.

  425. The key-stone to the CoViD19 bio-attack is Ralph Baric and his labs at UNC and AMRIID in Fort Detrick, but as far as the Western MSM vermin are concerned, he does not exist. His supposed existence is ‘Chinese disinformation’. There is no such person.

    • Replies: @James Charles
  426. @chowfun

    It is interesting, and revealing, how these and the scores of other US overseas bio-warfare labs, the existence of which has been known and reported upon by REAL journalists for years, is simply denied by 99% of Western MSM presstitue vermin. The West exists in a bubble of stupidity, ignorance and mendacity, reinforced 24/7, with complete, 100%, Mobthink, by monstrous lying psychopaths, who MUST, somehow, one day, face justice.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  427. @Swaytonious

    A Green Beret in South America in ’79. Training death-squads?

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  428. @Arepli

    In the future, if any wild conjecture pans out, Ron is Nostradamus…

    Genius!

    Or tedious…

    You decide.

    FWIW, The Unz Review is Mr. Unz’ playpen – he created it, he owns it and he has generously provided these facilities free-of-charge to the public for essentially unrestricted discussion of a wide diversity of controversial subjects.

    It sometimes helps to keep things in perspective.

    I say – let an old man have his fun.

  429. Spanky says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, I understand perfectly well what you are suggesting. Did my reply not make that clear?

  430. @mulga mumblebrain

    Probably.. he absolutely loved killing communists..

    He said there is no greater experience as a mortal man than to stand over the broken mangled body of a communist you just brought down knowing your malevolent grin will be the last thing he sees smiling down at him before he is dragged into hell.

    He was quite eloquent.

    You can try to insult him as I’m sure that’s your next impulse.. I’ll shrug. Dad wasn’t the high-minded Rah Rah Rah salute the flag moral types.. he just dispised communism, communists, and their fellow travelers. Beyond that he didn’t care about the politics.

  431. @Spanky

    I would absolutely love to have a conversation with you on this subject. It’s hard to find someone with more than a popcultural knowledge of the subjecy. I wanted to be a nuclear physicist and work at a power plant when I was a kid.. had the brains for it too. Chernobyl ended that dream.

    Some things have changed since 79.. most of those Rural AFBs have been closed. Further, going after all of our air fields is a waste of resources due to the fact that the Eisenhower Interstate System standards make I95 or any other interstate ready for nuclear capable bombers. The attacks on AFBs will be just to get any aircraft still on the ground. Also, I believe that our MIRV busses run at half capacity due to democrat signed treaties and green peace demands.. though I’m sure the Russians aren’t so foolish.

    Also, Russian bombs were big… Mostly due to the inaccuracy of their guidence systems.. this is no longer the same issue it used to be. Also, the ICBM fields are only targets if they haven’t fired.. once they blow their load they are less than worthless. It would be interesting to know where current Russian nuclear doctrine is..

    I’m not saying it wouldnt be awful, horrible, or civilization ending.. I’m just saying the dynamics have changed

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  432. @Swaytonious

    I bet he loved killing old people, women and children most-the true Yankee type. And torturing them first-Operation Phoenix was he?

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  433. @Arepli

    Is that you, Wizard ?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  434. @Swaytonious

    Beyond that he didn’t care about the politics.

    Well that’s refreshing to know.

    Hope your Dad was an atheist too, otherwise right now he’s roasting in Hell wondering where all the dead communists have gone.

    Just kidding – that’s definitely where he is, no doubts about it. Satan welcomes all comers, especially psycopaths.

  435. Ahh.. at least you admit you’re on the side of the side of Jewish minions.

  436. @mulga mumblebrain

    It appears your earlier assesssment was on target, ie, this “Swaytonious” character seems to be just one more malignant troll looking for a forum to infest and stir up mischief.

    If he’s being paid, they’re not getting value.

  437. anon[253] • Disclaimer says:

    The US is going to escalate to general nuclear war. Why? The CIA regime that runs the US has one (1) vital interest: impunity. Banned biological weapons in Russian custody threaten CIA impunity with a bill of indictment for crime of unprecedented gravity. CIA attacked all mankind with mass destruction weapons of the most indiscriminate sort.

    When the US bombed neutral Cambodia, the UN member nations defined aggression in law with the explicit rationale of weapons of mass destruction of all types. Now the threat of mass destruction has been realized: 20 million dead worldwide from CIA’s banned biological weapon, SARS-COV-2. This is undeclared war (Pearl Harbor type “sneak attack”) on China, Russia, and Iran, compounded with the crime against humanity of medical experimentation under ulterior constraint and coercion.

    This is an internationally wrongful act in breach of jus cogens that gives rise to CIA responsibility for restitution, satisfaction including prosecution for command responsibility. and compensation with interest. Restitution is probably impossible, considering CIA’s reckless tampering with the human genome. You’ve got spike in your nucleus and nobody can get it out. So reasonable compensation will make the Versailles Treaty look like a fix-it ticket. The only adequate satisfaction is prosecution of CIA germ-warfare criminals and their industry or NGO cutouts and assets, with life sentences or capital punishment.

    CIA SIS are dead-enders and they know it. Their only hope is threatening to blow up the world.

  438. @Wizard of Oz

    If that was your point, then why did you write precisely the opposite?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  439. Anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arepli

    So, per usual, Ron leads of with a statement of casual disregard for a topic, which any sane reader knows is pure internet bullshit, including Ron, or evidence of a true ET visitation, then something gets Ron’s attention, which implicitly elevates what Ron knowns to be bullshit into his credence.

    If I may sort of quote the master himself, oft repeated in his endlessly entertaining musings on Covid the past 26 months :

    ‘It’s a subject that doesn’t really interest me and I haven’t read much about – so here’s 10,000 words of my perspective on the matter . . . ‘.

    Personally, I think Ron’s trying to launch a career in comedy.

  440. Jim123 says:

    Since there is now apparent strong, new, medical evidence: that blood samples showing SARS-CoV-2 — from at least far back as September 2019 in France and Italy — means the Unz theory has to be called into question; and at least revamped in a manifold direction.

    The Unz theory is premised on release of SARS-CoV-2 during the China ‘mock military’ games. Sometime in October.

    Stanford’s Dr. Jay Bhattacharya recently commented on this development as well.

    Supporting documents can be found at

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/we-have-wasted-2-years-on-lockdowns-stanford-medical-professor-blasts-govts-after-covid-antibodies-found-in-blood-sample-from-september-2019/

    The USMC Major Joseph Murphy thesis has been: an Eco-Health/Peter Dsazack \$14M NIAID/Fauci granted project resulted in a live, unattenuated, Bat Vaccine — that escaped in August 2019; and its spike protein resulted in most of the harm–as this bat vaccine, so-called SARSd-CoV-WIV.

    This program was not shut down until April 2020, for reasons I have yet to discover, according to the Major in leaked Project Veritas documents in possession of a US Senator.

    Murphy reported this information in August 2021 to military Inspector General, in context of urging military “TO ABORT” mRNA vaxxing of the troops, which nonetheless occurred beginning last fall. The abort, due to the fact vac would not solve anything and only cause injury, harm and death, including playing havoc with women’s reproductive systems, heart disease, permanent disability, death, etc.

    This live, unattenuated bat vaccines Ecohealth/Daszack had aerosolized; and the plans according to documents in possession of Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisconsin, included testing these aerozolized bat vaccines at bat caves in Wisconsin, California and China.

    The documents do not specify where exactly live corona bat vaccines escape[s] happened, to best of my knowledge.

    Make of it what you will.

    Jim
    -30-

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Loup-Bouc
  441. @SolontoCroesus

    You didn’t stop to think about it. I could be rude do take that as a compliment.

  442. Ron Unz says:
    @Jim123

    Since there is now apparent strong, new, medical evidence: that blood samples showing SARS-CoV-2 — from at least far back as September 2019 in France and Italy — means the Unz theory has to be called into question; and at least revamped in a manifold direction…Stanford’s Dr. Jay Bhattacharya recently commented on this development as well.

    No. Those supposed early Covid results have long been widely known and they’re very obviously due to false-positives or other lab-errors as I discussed in one of my articles last year:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

    If Dr. Bhattacharya is promoting that nonsense without investigating the issue, he’s just lazy or incompetent, hardly surprising given his other ridiculous claims.

    • Replies: @Loup-Bouc
    , @Jim123
  443. Ron Unz says:

    Two of my video interviews from last month were loaded on Rumble and have done extremely well, together breaking 200,000 views, vastly higher totals than most of the others on those channels.

    But the third video by Geopolitics & Empire was on Youtube and hasn’t even reached 8K views, despite being quite good as well, strongly suggesting that Youtube is somehow shadow-banning or otherwise restricting the topic. Therefore, I’ve now loaded a copy on a Rumble channel, and hope that some of you will help give it a boost so it can then take off like the other two:



    Video Link.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  444. @Athena

    Absent further proof, I call this assertion bullshit:

    “The eugenics of Hitler were financed to a major extent by the same Rockefeller Foundation which today is building a doomsday seed vault to preserve samples of every seed on our planet.”

    Several reasons why:

    1. Standard Oil — as in Rockefeller Foundation — was one of the three major participants in the planning, experimentation, rehearsal and execution of firebombing of civilians in Germany in WWII.

    Or at least that is what the US Department of Interior claims:

    http://lcweb2.loc.gov/master/pnp/habshaer/ut/ut0500/ut0568/data/ut0568data.pdf

    DUGWAY PROVING GROUND, GERMAN-JAPANESE VILLAGE, GERMAN VILLAGE
    Architects; EricMendelsohn [ConsultingArchitect,NewYork] John F. Brandt [Standard Oil Development Company,
    Elizabeth, N.J.]
    Builder; Ford J. Twaits Company, Salt Lake City
    Present Owners; United States Army
    Present Use;
    Significance;
    Varied tests conducted for the Chemical and Biological Defense Command, Army Materiel Command
    The Dugway German Village was the primary American site for testing incendiary bombs prior to large- scale attacks near the end of World War II against civilian targets such as Dresden, Germany. . . .
    The buildings in the German Village were constructed from materials*and designs that replicated contemporary residential buildings in German urban industrial districts.
    In order to build a facility that was an authentic reproduction, studies were conducted to determine which materials and furnishings available in the U.S. would closely match those in use in Germany.

    A group of German-American architects affiliated with the “Gropius group at Harvard,” including prominent Jewish architects Eric Mendelsohn and Konrad Wachsmann, were employed to design the facility.

    Are you prepared to argue that Standard Oil profited from both sides of the war?

    2. That Hitler had an “eugenics” program is stated as if there is slam-dunk proof of its nefarious agenda as well as its existence.
    Evidence, please.

    3. While you’re joining Kevin Barrett and Dmitri Orlov in scarily flipping through Mein Kampf for proof of Nazi ebulness, back up a notch and do a quick search for “Erich Mendelsohn.” “The Jewish architect” actively participated in planning war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    In your search, I’ll bet you next year’s UBI you will find that Mendelsohn designed several synagogues and Jewish community centers in the years after the war (years that he should have spent in prison or dead), and that the Jews who frequent those buildings still celebrate his achievements.

    4. Speaking of Jews (it’s a habit on Unz Forum), according to the dissertation prepared by Etan Bloom at TelAviv University, Arthur Ruppin, the “creator” of “Hebrew culture” in zionized Palestine, was an award-winning eugenicist who applied those principles to defining the “human material” necessary to create the “new Jew” (who would revitalize the “degenerated Jew” that Max Nordau described) to build the zionist project; then selected those European Jews permitted to migrate to Israel to create that “new Jew.”
    https://www.academia.edu/1250459/Arthur_Ruppin_and_the_production_of_pre_Israeli_culture

  445. Lysias says:

    I and a friend with whom I live both had bad colds that went into our lungs in late October 2019. We live about a half mile from the Forest Glen Annex of Fort Detrick in Silver Spring MD.

    A brother of mine contracted a respiratory infection just after Christmas 2019 after a visit to Sloan Kettering in downtown Manhattan. He soon had to be hospitalized. I and my friend visited him in hospital in early January, when his condition seemed to have stabilized. We spent about an hour with him in his hospital room and then went back to Maryland. My brother’s condition deteriorated, with the classic symptoms of a cytokine storm. He died in February.

    I strongly suspect that what we had in October and what he had in December was covid. We didn’t catch it from him because we had developed immunity.

  446. Loup-Bouc says:
    @Ron Unz

    How often daily do you gaze in your bathroom mirror and consider kissing the face you see?

    In your comment of 16 March 2022 at 6:38 pm GMT, https://www.unz.com/runz/ukraine-and-biowarfare-conspiracy-theories/#comment-5235666
    you wrote:

    Two of my video interviews from last month were loaded on Rumble and have done extremely well, together breaking 200,000 views, vastly higher totals than most of the others on those channels.

    That quote is one of MANY instances of your manifesting your astounding narcissism.

    Responding to Jim123’s suggestion that the September & November 2019 French and Italian Covid antibodies and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya’s recent comment “called into question” your Covid hypotheses, you wrote:

    Those supposed early Covid results have long been widely known and they’re very obviously due to false-positives or other lab-errors as I discussed in one of my articles last year:

    “…[O]bviously false positives or other lab errors”? Clearly, you know more than one of the world’s leading physicians/epidemiologists — Dr. Jay Bhattacharya — and the scientist(s) who found Covid antibodies in the pre-December 2019 French and Italian blood-samples, despite you have zero medical education and do not hold any kind of biology degree.

    [MORE]

    Dr. Bhattacharya, M.D. Stanford, PhD Economics Stanford, is a Professor of Health Policy at Stanford. He has authored 135 articles published in top peer-reviewed journals of medicine, economics, health policy, epidemiology, statistics, and public health.

    Dr. Bhattacharya’s recent comment is posted here: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/we-have-wasted-2-years-on-lockdowns-stanford-medical-professor-blasts-govts-after-covid-antibodies-found-in-blood-sample-from-september-2019/

    Dr. Bhattacharya’s comment is supplemented here: https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/status/1503112014700285953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1503112014700285953%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifesitenews.com%2Fnews%2Fwe-have-wasted-2-years-on-lockdowns-stanford-medical-professor-blasts-govts-after-covid-antibodies-found-in-blood-sample-from-september-2019%2F

    You did not examine or test the French or Italian blood-samples. You do not suggest you know the testing method(s) used.

    Since Covid “antibodies” were discovered, the testing must not have been RT-PCR testing, which is the commonly used markedly unreliable “Covid” test, and not an antigen test, also unreliable.

    Several antibody-specific tests exist — some created by researchers specially for purpose of particular studies. The literature suggests that antibody tests are markedly less unreliable than RT-PCR and antigen tests.

    Dr. Bhattacharya’s comment does not identify the tests used to detect Covid antibodies in the studies of French and Italian samples. But Dr. Bhattacharya’s comment does link a report of the French-sample study and a report of the Italian-sample study.
    * https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00716-2
    * https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0300891620974755

    Those studies used a commercial Elisa test (Euroimmun®, Lübeck, Germany) to detect anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies (IgG) directed against the S1 domain of the spike protein of the virus (ELISA-S).The French study report shows that the test was performed reliably and the results analyzed scrupulously — insignificant or questionable results culled.

    In accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions a test was considered to be ELISA-S positive with an optical density ratio ≥1.1, indeterminate between 0.8 and 1.1, and negative, < 0.8. All samples with an ELISA-S test ≥0.7 were also tested with an in-house micro-neutralization assay to detect neutralizing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies (SN), as described elsewhere. A SN titer ≥40 was considered to be positive. Six replicates were performed to confirm positive SN.

    But, I am remiss. I neglect to account that you possess deific omniscience. You, Mr. Unz, see through the French and Italian sample studies — see through them into Olympic TRUTH and know, as mere mortals cannot apprehend, that the studies’ results were based on “false positives or lab errors.” More important: those lowly scientists’s findings cannot impeach the dazzling brilliance and redoubtable truth of your divine hypotheses.

    Still, I wonder: How do you respond to this: On 15 January2020, Spanish virologists found Covid traces in Barcelona waste water collected in March 2019 — nine months before Covid-19 was “identified” in China.
    * https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2020/06/26/the-coronavirus-was-detected-in-sewage-in-march-of-2019-far-from-wuhan-china/?sh=bb5752312e3a
    * https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ

    Some argue that the Spanish sewage-sample’s analysis was flawed. Others have demanded a second, peer-reviewed study.

    I do not presume to form an opinion respecting the report of SARS-CoV-2 found in March 2019 Spanish sewage. Debatable assertions abound in the Covid arena — where politics, psychopathy, and defensive egos, choke the spare remaining actual science of the West, and of China.

    But you, Mr. Unz? Even the great devil Yahweh cringes in the blaze of your omniscience.

  447. @Loup-Bouc

    But you, Mr. Unz? Even the great devil Yahweh cringes in the blaze of your omniscience.

    Sorry, Mr. Unz, he’s gotcha here.

    And there is that small detail about how a military report in November 2019 reveals foreknowledge of a biologic attack, but strangely, a grand rehearsal one month earlier in October 2019 by a door-to-door shoe salesman and his high-ranking cohorts from all over the planet for the Globalist management of the imminent Corona Chan “pandemic”, does not.

    We know this is your playpen, and we do really appreciate everything you’ve provided for us. So we’re reticent to kick a dead horse (after all, you’re clearly not dead yet), but still…

    • Replies: @Loup-Bouc
  448. Loup-Bouc says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Your comment does not account the Covid antibodies found in September 2019 or the SARS-CoV-2 found in Spanish sewage in March 2019. Try READING & actually THINKING before you attempt to rebut.

    Per Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (premised on actual scientific evidence) : “Antibodies to the novel coronavirus have been discovered in blood samples dating from September 2019 in Europe.” [My emphasis.] https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/we-have-wasted-2-years-on-lockdowns-stanford-medical-professor-blasts-govts-after-covid-antibodies-found-in-blood-sample-from-september-2019/

    RE: the March 2019 Spanish sewage SARS-CoV-2, see the links I put in my comment to which you attempt to reply (16 March 2022 at 10:53 pm GMT, here: https://www.unz.com/runz/ukraine-and-biowarfare-conspiracy-theories/#comment-5236102 ).

    You rebut NOTHING by referring to a putative “military report in November 2019 reveals foreknowledge of a biologic attack, but strangely, a grand rehearsal one month earlier in October 2019.” Except perhaps in your dream-world (or Mr. Unz’s), every year March and September happen before October. And “biological attack” does not equal specifically/exactly an outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 infections. If such attack were an actual U.S. plan, the pathogen could be any of several existing or possible new pathogens other than SARS-CoV-2.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  449. Che Guava says:

    MGB,

    All of the best info. I have is in a book, Japanese and English, not at hand, in my storage box. So, I tried a search in Japanese.

    Bizarre results, like a health cult, but did remind me of the company name.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(08)60469-9/fulltext

    This one looks good, but download only.

    https://nhd.org/sites/default/files/Agarwal%20Bibliography.docx

  450. Che Guava says:
    @MGB

    I posted a reply, but i think the link to your qn was lost. No. 462 at time of posting.

  451. Ron Unz says:
    @Loup-Bouc

    How often daily do you gaze in your bathroom mirror and consider kissing the face you see?

    Anyone who checked your Commenter Archive will soon discover that despite stiff competition, you’re very likely the most remarkably pompous windbag among all participants here. So I suspect your own characterization was based upon looking into a mirror.

    Moreover, most of your past comments on all sorts of subjects have proven that you a rather ignorant and gullible fellow, and your credibility on scientific matters is nil.

    one of the world’s leading physicians/epidemiologists — Dr. Jay Bhattacharya — and the scientist(s) who found Covid antibodies in the pre-December 2019 French and Italian blood-samples, despite you have zero medical education and do not hold any kind of biology degree.

    Just as I remembered, Bhattacharya totally destroyed his credibility early in 2020 when he gullibly (or dishonestly) promoted the view that Covid was “orders of magnitude” less dangerous than widely believed, having a fatality rate one tenth that of the ordinary flu—0.01%(!!!)—and would probably only kill 20,000 or 40,000 Americans:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464

    He promoted totally bogus data (based upon false positives!) that a huge number of California residents had already been infected by early 2020 despite the negligible number of deaths:

    https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/how-not-to-do-an-antibody-survey-for-sars-cov-2-67488

    Given his total incompetence and the potentially disastrous consequences of his proposals, I’m surprised he wasn’t summarily fired from Stanford, tenure or not.

    Meanwhile, I discussed the false-positive issue at considerable length in my article. Indeed, solid studies have demonstrated that the false-positive rate is at least 95% on those sorts of tests, which obviously explains why those anomalous results occasionally popped up in parts of Europe.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

    Even someone as dim-witted as yourself cannot possibly believe that 11.6% of all Northern Italians were already infected with Covid in September 2019.

  452. @Loup-Bouc

    In brief – you’re an idiot.

    Let’s quote some of your own rant back at you…

    Try READING & actually THINKING before you attempt to rebut.

    … maybe after some introspection and a nice soothing cup of chamomile tea, the penny will drop (or not).

  453. @Ron Unz

    Anyone who checked your Commenter Archive will soon discover that despite stiff competition, you’re very likely the most remarkably pompous windbag among all participants here. So I suspect your own characterization was based upon looking into a mirror.

    Touche Mr. Unz!

    It’s a peculiar situation indeed when – even though I agree with the underlying premise of his argument around the facts of Corona Chan’s genesis – your adversary in this case is nonetheless an idiot.

  454. @Ron Unz

    But the third video by Geopolitics & Empire was on Youtube and hasn’t even reached 8K views, despite being quite good as well, strongly suggesting that Youtube is somehow shadow-banning or otherwise restricting the topic.

    I know this is veering a little off-topic, but I’m frankly bemused that so many alternative news platforms persist in their reliance on Globalist-controlled facilities like Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Google (and now, apparently, DuckDuckGo too), especially for their forum posts.

    There are soooo many good alternatives out there. Some search engines – ( search.brave.com ) and ( presearch.org ). Social media – ( truthbook.social ). Video hosts – ( bitchute.com ), ( rumble.com ), ( patreon.com ), ( brighteon.com ), ( brandnewtube.com ), the list just keeps growing.

  455. @Kiza

    Now I have read that I don’t feel inclined to defend Morrison’s priorities or to justify the appalling fully and evil of the second Iraq war. But it doesn’t justify anything Putin is doing now. I hope you don’t believe any of Russia’s lying propaganda which is so straightforwardly purposeful that it is impossible to reliably identify the occasional deliberate truth.

    I think it was in a convincing exposition on PBS Frontline that one Susan Glasser gave a convincing account of Putin’s character and methods. I recall a Russian being quoted as explaining that (maybe I paraphrase but I have the point right) the Russian way was not to justify anything but just to show that they had the power and would use it regardless of justice or truth or mercy.

  456. @Dave Bowman

    No but 23andMe says we are related apes.

  457. Spanky says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    …the appalling fully [sic] and evil of the second Iraq war. But it doesn’t justify anything Putin is doing now. — Wizard of Oz

    We agree. The evil done by the U.S. in the second Iraq war does not justify Russia’s preemptive strike upon Ukraine. Nor does Russia claim that it does. That you ignore Russia’s clearly articulated and longstanding reasons for its actions is telling.

    I hope you don’t believe any of Russia’s lying propaganda which is so straightforwardly purposeful that it is impossible to reliably identify the occasional deliberate truth. — Wizard of Oz

    And whom would you have us turn to for accurate information, Wiz? The lying propaganda of the western corporate media? There is an old saying — truth is the best propaganda. Perhaps, if western media tried telling the truth, warts and all, for a change, it wouldn’t be necessary for westerners seeking facts about current affairs to turn to Russian media, which seems to have embraced that old saying.

    In the meantime, you are reduced to pointing commenters toward American PBS, funded by the USG and corporations, for speculation about Putin’s character. Pitiful.

  458. Those labs were not created by the US. Ukraine inherited them form the Soviet Union’s bioweapons program. Ukraine demilitarized them and placed them under the department of health. The US contributed funding to keep the scientists working at those labs so they would not end up in Iran, North Korea or China, who were trying to lure them away. Their function was medical and Veterinary medicine research.

    It was traditional under the USSR for the regime to start screaming about things and accusing others of doing the very thing they were doing. The KGB thug in charge of fascist regime in Moscow is simply following that tradition.

  459. Loup-Bouc says:
    @Ron Unz

    Part One

    Your comment does not refute the methods or results of the two studies Dr. Bhattacharya referenced and linked in his comment that I cited in my comment to which your comment purports to reply — my comment posted here:

    [MORE]
    https://www.unz.com/runz/ukraine-and-biowarfare-conspiracy-theories/#comment-5236102

    Instead, other than ad hominem attacks (which I expected and that I shall address in Part Two of this comment), you assert (falsely, sophistically) that none but the “dim-witted” can “possibly believe that 11.6% of all Northern Italians were already infected with Covid in September 2019.” That assertion does not address the issue my comment addressed.

    The issue is not who can believe what, or who can believe “that 11.6% of all Northern Italians were already infected with Covid in September 2019.” And the issue is not whether, by September 2019, 11.6% of all Northern Italians were already infected with Covid.

    The issue is whether your U.S. bioweapon attack hypothesis can withstand the fact that some French or Italian people were SARS-CoV-2 infected in September 2019, or even in March 2019 — despite your hypothesis [October(??) or November (??) 2019 U.S. bioweapon attack in China] depends vitally on its “evidence” (a) that a November 2019 military report revealed foreknowledge of a bioweapon attack and (b) that a rehearsal happened in October 2019.

    [[[ Side-Note: The “foreknowledge” might have related NOT to a SARS-CoV-2 attack, but to an attack using a pathogen other than SARS-CoV-2 — an attack that either (a) did not transpire or (b) passed essentially unnoticed because its geographic/demographic scope was relatively small and its severity relatively insignificant. End Side-Note ]]]

    If France or Italy had even just one September 2019 Covid-19 case, your hypothesis suffers significant impeachment — especially because the September 2019 Covid19-case evidence is not an RT-PCR or RT-qPCR test result or an antigen test result, but results of properly/validly/reliably conducted Elisa antibody-test results.

    Properly/validly conducted Elisa antibody tests are reliable. Also, a positive result indicates presence of infection that occurred a week or longer before the date at which the blood sample was obtained, since the SARS-CoV-2 infection-incubation period is about a week to 14 days. In the Italy study, the first blood-samples were drawn in the first week of September. So, in cases of samples that bore SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, the infected individual may have contracted Covid-19 in mid-or-late August of 2019.

    In my comment to which your comment purports to reply, I linked the two studies that were the core premises of Dr. Bhattacharya’s comment that addressed pre-Wuhan-origin Covid cases occurring in Italy and France. I included evidence that supports a conclusion that the two studies’ results were reliable — that the test-method was valid and reliable and that the test-administration and test-outcome-assaying were valid and reliable.

    You present NOTHING that can dispute those results. You link your own earlier article. There, you present NOTHING that can dispute those results.

    Your medicine expertise and biology expertise are nonexistent. Your “false positive” and “lab error” assertions are risibly untenable, at best reflections of abysmal ignorance of all the pertinent fields of science, at worst sophistry or bullshit. Your “lab error” assertion is even imbecilic: you cannot know what actually occurred in any lab involved in production of the two studies’ findings, analyses, or results.

    In my comment to which your comment purports to reply, I referenced a report of virologists’ finding evidence of SARS-CoV-2 virus specimens in Spanish sewage collected in March 2019. I linked two sources that address that report. Your comment does not mention that report. Respecting that report, my comment observes:

    Some argue that the Spanish sewage-sample’s analysis was flawed. Others have demanded a second, peer-reviewed study.

    I do not presume to form an opinion respecting the report of SARS-CoV-2 found in March 2019 Spanish sewage. Debatable assertions abound in the Covid arena….

    The matter is not whether, beyond reasonable doubt, March 2019 Spanish sewage bore SARS-CoV-2 specimens. The matter is whether YOU can prove that the sewage did NOT bear even one specimen of SARS-CoV-2. If you cannot put such proof, then the Spanish virologists’ report impeaches your hypothesis.

    I shall not be amazed if actually the putative Covid-19 epidemic resulted from a U.S.-wrought bioweapon attack. The CIA, FBI, FDA, NIH, NIAID, Fauci, the Pentagon, and the U.S. military’s high command (and, much, the U.S. government) are psychopathic, manifestly evil, and quite capable of wreaking virtually any horror anyone can imagine. My point is only that your hypothesis has been impeached; and, to sustain it, you must refute the impeachment, completely — and you have NOT done so.

    Part Two

    You link a Wall Street Journal article to support your assertion that “early in 2020” Dr. Bhattacharya estimated that the Covid death-rate would be “0.01%.” I cannot open that article. I do not subscribe to the Wall Street journal. I shall not pay to read the article. I do not trust your report of the article’s statement of the Covid-19 death-rate Dr. Bhattacharya estimated; sophistry and plain (albeit perhaps-unintended) falsehood are not uncommon in your articles and comments.

    But I shall (below) quote Covid-caused-death-rate/Covid-survival-rate estimates Dr. Bhattacharya rendered in 2020. The first quote puts a statement made in December 2020. The second and third quotes are of Dr. Bhattacharya 2021 statements that refer back to his 2020 estimates; they are NOT his new, 2021 estimates, but recollections or reports of his 2020 estimates.

    Immediately (before quoting Dr. Bhattacharya’s Covid-death-rate estimates), I shall discredit the seriously false, even actually fraudulent, “official” statements of (alleged) Covid-19-caused deaths.

    Most Covid-infection “findings” are RT-PCR test results. The RT-PCR test is hugely unreliable, e.g.,
    • (a) because it was not designed to test for SARS-CoV-2 infection,
    • (b) because it does not distinguish reliably live SARS-CoV-2 material from deead SARS-CoV-2 material, coronavirus material other than SARS-CoV-2, or other, non-coronavirus material thatn may not even be a pathogen,
    • (c) because often RT-PCR testing “amplifies” material to a point at which found material appears to be material of a certian pathogen though actually it is not such,
    • (d) because RT-PCR testing cannot, reliably, establish the SARS-CoV-2 viral load a tested person suffers, and unless the viral load is high enough, the person does not suffer Covid-19 infection.
    See, e.g., https://leonardrjaffee.substack.com/p/george-floyd-was-murdered-by-derek?s=w#footnote-9

    Therefore, if a person dies and has had, or his corpse had, an RT-PCR test that produced a positive “SARS-CoV-2” result, no one can deduce, validly, that Covid-19 killed the person or even the person died while suffering or after having suffered Covid-19 infection. Worse: In the U.S., rampant error, even often rampant fraud, explains MANY assertions of Covid-19 deaths. See, e.g.,
    * https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-truth-is-coming-out-about-covid-deaths_4309806.html
    * https://leonardrjaffee.substack.com/p/george-floyd-was-murdered-by-derek?s=w#footnote-9
    * https://www.theepochtimes.com/massachusetts-to-reduce-significant-overcount-of-covid-19-deaths_4330491.html
    * https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/numbers-are-skewed-colorado-officials-warn-inflated-covid-deaths

    Money is one reason. See, e.g., https://leonardrjaffee.substack.com/p/george-floyd-was-murdered-by-derek?s=w#footnote-9
    That source references, e.g., provisions of the Care Act. Note that the Care Act provisions were extended at least until September 2021 and may remain effective until today. See, e.g.,
    * https://41g41s33vxdd2vc05w415s1e-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Covid_aid_bill_summary_12.26.20.pdf
    * https://www.crowell.com/NewsEvents/AlertsNewsletters/all/CARES-Act-Section-3610-Relief-Extended-Until-September-30-2021

    Another reason is political/elite/deep-state powers’ desire of inducing massive public fear that will enable political/elite/deep-state power to establish near-complete control the masses. I presume that I need not link sources to prove that assertion for Unz Review readers.

    Now Dr. Bhattacharya’s death-rate/survival-rate estimates:

    In 8 December 2020 testimony Dr. Bhattacharya gave to the U.S. Senate, Dr. Bhattacharya said:

    …the World Health Organization publicized a very misleading 3.4% case fatality rate that panicked the world. This number is misleading because, for the typical person infected, the usual outcome spans the range from no symptoms whatsoever, to a mild cold, to the severe viral pneumonia that the media highlights.

    Thus, many infections are not identified as cases because they do not come to the attention of doctors or public health authorities. We know from a series of studies of specific SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the blood, which provide evidence of prior COVID infection, that this is true. From these studies, we can estimate the true COVID infection survival rate.

    Because of a recent publication in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization, surveying 61 of these studies worldwide, we now have a good estimate of the infection survival rate. It turns out to vary by orders of magnitude by age. For people 70 and over, the infection survival rate is 95%. For people under 70, it is 99.95%.1 With improvements in treatment and patient management – like dexamethasone and improved ventilator protocols – these numbers are improving all the time.

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Bhattacharya12-08-2020.pdf

    In a Thursday, 21 October 2021 Hoover Institution, “Uncommon Knowledge” interview conducted by Peter Robinson, Dr. Bhattacharya said:

    …there’s now a whole bunch of these seroprevalence studies have been done that replicate from around the world what we found. The typical finding in these seroprevalence studies is that for people that are under the age of 70, there’s a 0.05% mortality risk. So 99.95% survival after infection for people under 70. For people over 70 it’s 5% mortality. So 95% mortality, 95% survival, a huge difference. It essentially changes smoothly with age. So roughly speaking, I’m 53, my infection fatality rate from these studies is something like 0.2%, 99.8% survival if I get infected. That’s before the vaccine. Every seven years of age below and above you double it.

    https://www.hoover.org/research/what-happened-dr-jay-bhattacharya-19-months-covid-1

    At pp.2-3 of his article “Lockdowns and the Science of COVID,” Stanford University (24 June 2021), Dr. Bhattacharya wrote:

    In September 2020, the CDC updated its current best estimate of the infection fatality ratio — the ratio of deaths to the total number of people infected — for various age groups. The CDC estimates that the infection fatality rate for people ages 0-19 years is 0.003%, meaning infected children have a 99.997% survivability rate. The CDC’s best estimate of the infection fatality rate for people ages 20-49 years is 0.02%, meaning that young adults have a 99.98% survivability rate. The CDC’s best estimate of the infection fatality rate for people aged 50-69 years is 0.5%, meaning this age group has a 99.5% survivability rate. The CDC’s best estimate of infection fatality rate for people ages 70+ years is 5.4%, meaning seniors have a 94.6% survivability rate.

    A study of the seroprevalence of COVID-19 in Geneva, Switzerland (published in the Lancet) provides a detailed age breakdown of the infection survival rate in a preprint companion paper 99.9984% for patients 5 to 9 years old; 99.99968% for patients 10 to 19 years old; 99.991% for patients 20 to 49 years old; 99.86% for patients 50 to 64 years old; and 94.6% for patients above 65.

    I estimated the age-specific infection fatality rates from the Santa Clara County seroprevalence study data (for which I am the senior investigator). The infection survival rate is 100% among people between 0 and 19 years (there were no deaths in Santa Clara in that age range up to that date); 99.987% for people between 20 and 39 years; 99.84% for people between 40 and 69 years; and 98.7% for people above 70 years. In fact, in all of California through August 20, there have been only two deaths at all among COVID-19 patients below age 18. Also, 74.2% of all COVID19 related deaths occurred in patients 65 and older.

    https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/2021-06-24-Lockdowns-and-the-Science-of-COVID-Dr.-Jay-Bhattacharya.pdf

    Those death-rate/survival-rate estimates were not only arguable validly. They were also markedly better than numerous other estimates (one predicting huge death-rates, circa 20%) put around the times when Dr. Bhattacharya put his estimates rendered in 2020. And Dr. Bhattacharya’s estimates were not substantially different from some others put in 2020.

    Much more important: Dr. Bhattacharya’s death-rate/survival-rate estimates are irrelevant to (a) the validity/reliability of the results of the studies that found SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in blood-samples obtained September 2019, (b) the Spanish virologists’ report of finding SARS-CoV-2 specimens in Spanish sewage sampled in March 2019, or (c) the validity of your hypothesis. Your reply-comment is a notable instance of your supporting your positions with amalgams of sophistry, slop, and bullshit.

    • Replies: @emersonreturn
  460. @Spanky

    You mistake my purpose in linking to the Susan Glasser interview. It was more for her articulating what one needs to understand Putin than anything new in the way of convincing facts…

  461. @Spanky

    You might find this, from the FT today, helpful to understanding what Putin I’d likely to do and why.

    Why I should have listened to Garry Kasparov about Putin

    The chess grandmaster was dismissed when he warned about Russia. But he was right

    © Shonagh Rae

    By Gillian Tett YESTERDAY349

    [MORE]

    A few years ago, the exalted Russian chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov came to dinner at my house in New York. It was a memorably intense evening. As we dug into our desserts, Kasparov regaled the assembled group of American policymakers and financiers with his views on Russia, a country he had fled in 2013 after challenging President Vladimir Putin. Kasparov warned that Putin was becoming increasingly authoritarian, isolated from the west and, as a result, likely to lash out at neighbours such as Ukraine in a dangerous way.

    When the rest of the table rowdily dismissed his catastrophising, Kasparov became heated and, as the wine flowed, the conversation grew so animated that I started to worry that guests would walk out. So, despite sharing many of Kasparov’s fears, I decided to keep the peace by changing the subject to chess instead.

    It was one of several occasions when I saw Kasparov correctly predict impending disaster only to be rebuffed. When we caught up by phone last week, he recalled that night, lamenting, “I was stunned by the unwillingness of people [in the west] to hear these warnings, because I grew up in the Soviet Union and knew all about the historical events of the 20th century. I knew that you could have stopped Hitler in 1935 and 1936 and 1937 and didn’t. But I had so much outright rejection of what I have been saying.”

    Why were westerners so dismissive of Kasparov’s analysis? It is an important question given that many observers have reacted with complete shock to events in Ukraine. Among the biggest culprits have been the western elites with businesses in Russia. “Nobody I knew expected Putin would actually invade!” I was told last weekend by an expatriate former director of a Russian commodities company, who has now resigned. “We are all just in disbelief.”

    Kasparov thinks the issue is a tendency to presume that everyone else shares your innate world view. The key here is western ideas of motive and rationality. Western culture is soaked in a capitalist ethos, underpinned by a widespread assumption that the profit motive rules supreme in terms of shaping political calculations, and that it’s “the economy, stupid” that drives decision-making in Russia and elsewhere. The collapse of the USSR reinforced this view, since it seemed that market principles and global business interests had triumphed.

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    As a consequence, western leaders and business groups generally turned a blind eye when Putin gave speeches that clearly demonstrated his nationalist, expansionist agenda and then annexed Crimea. Worse, they failed to appreciate how isolated Putin had become. Instead, as Russian oligarchs became a fixture of global business, Putin was seen as an extrapolation of this group. The idea that he might be so hell-bent on the destruction of democracy and the expansion of Russia that he would be willing to accept deep economic pain wasn’t taken seriously.

    “It’s not like his actions were done in the darkness; it all happened in plain sight,” Kasparov tells me. “But after the end of the cold war there was some kind of allergy for any warnings about repetition of events. There was this assumption that Putin would never destroy business because it seemed irrational for him to do that.”

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    Given Kasparov’s acuity in predicting current events, I ask what he thinks might happen next. He believes Putin has “already lost” the battle, in the sense that his key objective of swiftly annexing Ukraine has failed. “I don’t think that a Ukrainian leader can accept anything less than the return of land [in Crimea]. This war will end with the Ukrainian flag on Sevastopol.”

  462. What happened to the article posted previously on this topic?

  463. @Arthur MacBride

    Asia is BIIIGG! We don’t like that. We cut it here, and here, and here, and now we are the BIGGEST!
    The US attacks on Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Taiwan, Iraq, Iran, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Syria, and so on.

  464. @Truthor

    Soviet, i.e. Russian

    Huge mistake!
    You do realise that i.e. is the Latin abbreviation for “that is”!
    You are dangerously close to saying that Ukraine belongs to Russia!

  465. Credit to Mr. Unz for acknowledging the biowarfare mischief now evident around the globe, lately focused on numerous American biolabs distributed across Ukraine.

    Let’s face it, Ukraine might have nominal “ownership” of these laboratories on its territory, but who do we believe is actually running them?

    Here’s some evidence to clarify the matter…



    Video Link

    The USA is running internationally banned clandestine bioweapon programs in Ukraine, in China and on its own soil.

    So is Australia.

    Who else is in on the game?

    More importantly after the last two years of Corona Chan skulduggery (and perhaps more urgently, given the psychosis of the WEF) what have they got planned for us next?

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  466. @Wizard of Oz

    And while I am looking for the right place to stir our host’s imagination aow me to offer you this

    https://newlinesmag.com/first-person/putins-killing-machine-that-isnt-working/

    If you think he’s wrong or just a paid propagandist please tell me – and tell me how you know.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  467. @Wizard of Oz

    More Mittyesque confabulation. When I had Mikhail Tal at a seance, he thoroughly approved of Putin. Beat that! There is as much chance of a Ukrainian flag in Sevastopol as of you returning to reality from your fever dreams. As for Kasparian, he, like many chess masters, is nuts and nassty.
    And how do you explain the relentless US aggression since the end of the Cold War. At this stage, ie three weeks, into the US and stooges’ aggression against Iraq, the thugs had murdered 300,000 people, whereas all Russia is responsible for is a string of Ukronazi false flags.
    Moreover, like all vicious Russophobe swine, you simply do not mention the US Colour (Orange) Revolution in 2005, and the fascist putsch against an elected President in 2014, the subsequent massacre at Odessa, the attacks on Donetsk and Lugansk, killing 14,000, the rise of neo-Nazi death-squads and militias, the numerous bio-warfare labs established by the USA, the experiments on Russian and Georgian troops, the threat of Ukrainian nukes etc. In other words you are, in my opinion, a very villainous hypocrite and disinformer.

    • Agree: The Old Philosopher
  468. @Wizard of Oz

    Your remarks re. the ‘Russian character’ show what a vile racist you truly are. Your racist observations FAR better suit the USA than they do Russia. Against Ukraine, forced on Russia cynically by the USA, determined to fight to the last Ukrainian, you have the USA responsible for massacres and genocides in Korea, Indochina, Iraq, Iran, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, the whole of Latin America for 200 years, the Philippines, numerous ‘Colour Revolutions’, ceaseless subversion and sabotage world-wide, the Washington Consensus of the economic hit-men of the IMF, World Bank, WTO etc, 800 overseas bases, support for innumerable fascist and murderous despots etc, etc, etc. A litany of Evil unrivalled by any other tyranny in history, but creeps like you would crawl across broken glass to lick the gore off the Yankee jack-boots.

  469. @mulga mumblebrain

    That dear reader, is the fraud of Oz hiding behind his curtain for covering up his lies, deceptions, and frauds.

  470. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    The rodents will inherit the Earth, though, if/when the maniacs get their way.

  471. @mulga mumblebrain

    You remind me of the rather juvenile enthusiast I one had as a history master who later matured into Attorney-General of one former colonial territory and Chief Justice of another.

    He gave a paper to us on “The Myth of National Character”. In maturity he regarded that sentiment as a gross oversimplification. I doubt whether he would have approved the blunter assessments and generalisations about Jews on UR. But he wouldn’t have had a problem with a Russian’s affirmation of a tendency to advertise brute force which I can only say does sound consistent with Putin’s threats and bullying if his own team.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  472. Spanky says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I’m surprised he didn’t quote his British, NATO or Ukrainian sources about the zombified Russian horde cannibalizing the dead… Perhaps, had he gone to the front and seen it for himself, he would have done so. Pity about his broken hot tub, but then one must endure privations in a war zone.

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  473. Poco says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Don’t forget Sadaam has WMDs. And Assad gasses his own people. And Israel persecutes the palestinians…. oh ✋ wait.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  474. Wokechoke says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Spanish Flu may have been the first bio weapon.

  475. anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    OT but crucial to the overarching purpose of Unz’s work:

    Whitney Webb’s on fire again. She just keeps her eye on the ball. You ought to put her newest thing up too.

    https://alethonews.com/2022/03/17/meet-ghislaine-heiress-to-an-espionage-empire/

    The facts she digs up reinforce many important points:

    (1) the functions of CIA criminal enterprise do not go away. The cutouts change. KCIA used to do everything Mossad did, bribery and blackmail.

    (2) You don’t get near the White House without running lots of errands for CIA. Trump helped out with pedo Kompromat. Of course Trump was later subjected to unprecedented CIA ratfuck attack and ousted. He made out better than Reagan, spokesmodel for multiple CIA ultra NGOs, shot by Bush before he found his way to the WH bathroom.

    (3) The Safari Club is CIA’s default mode of operation. Any touchy crime will be festooned with lots of pointers to foreign intelligence agencies. CIA is Transnational Organized Crime. We will find that CIA structured its COVID germ war the same way, with lots of delegation to satellite agencies, particularly Mossad and MI6.

    • Thanks: Spanky
  476. @Poco

    Are you drunk? What’s that burp from across the bar got to do with anything? I never believed in the WMDs and thought the Iraq war great folly in 2003. I’m on the record. Are you? I never had any belief about Assad and gassing. Did you? On what basis?

    • Replies: @Poco
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  477. @mulga mumblebrain

    Still unwillin, I see, to explain what the MM syndicate deems to be sources of truths which only have to be stated, never justified or explained.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  478. @mulga mumblebrain

    How is this a relevant reply to anything rather than just a rant?

  479. anon[288] • Disclaimer says:

    Now that the CIA germ warfare labs in Ukraine are in custody, Russia’s got a beef. Here’s what Kadlec has to look forward to:

    https://inteltoday.org/2022/03/16/on-this-day-cia-william-francis-buckley-is-kidnapped-in-beirut-march-16-1984-2/#more-32768

    That’s how you get CIA’s attention.

  480. Poco says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Media accounts of their character and methods and the power they would use regardless of justice or truth or mercy. You know, the same kind of thing you refer to as regards Putin.
    You mewling dumbass.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  481. anon[174] • Disclaimer says:

    Coming along nicely. Russia’s got some germ warfare Mengeles to hunt down.

    Joanna Wintrall

    https://ru-main.ru/russia-continues-revealing-ukraines-biolab-secret-activity-under-us-supervision/

  482. ThomasT says:
    @TG

    Origin of the spike protein.. The Identity of the Virus: Health/ Science Institutions Worldwide “Have No Record” of SARS-COV-2 Isolation/Purification. Dr. Christine Massey, Dec. 2021.

    US lawyer Dr Francis Boyle, who has drafted Bio-Warfare Regs. has evidence that Harvard U Chem. Dept. Dr. Charles Lieber & Oz. Health Dept aided Wuhan Labs in the project to create the bio-weapon spike protein, in which, cancer, hap. and HIV codes are embedded.

  483. @Wizard of Oz

    The truth does NOT need to be ‘justified’, and ‘explaining’ it to a die-hard liar and confabulator like you is like trying to ‘..explain the Heavens to a pig’, as the Chinese proverb says. I deal in facts, you in Imperial lies and humbug.

  484. @Wizard of Oz

    A war of aggression (the Supreme Crime) and genocide, and you call it ‘folly’. Not a crime or an abomination, but a ‘folly’ ie a mistake driven by an excess of enthusiasm. If you did not believe Imperial lies re. Iraq and Syria why do you peddle the Ukraine LIES with such enthusiasm? Hmmmmmm.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  485. @WIzard of Oz

    You are only concerned with ‘brute force’ in Russia’s case, and ignore the Empire of Bullying Thuggery, the USA. Don’t you remember the dementing bully-boy Reagan affirming that he would cease sending Contra death-squad butchers into Nicaragua, to murder teachers and healthcare workers, if the Nicaraguans ‘Said Uncle’, the American school-yard bully’s taunt? Why the duplicitous, and mendacious in your confabulations re. Putin, double-standard?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  486. @mulga mumblebrain

    Stop boring on. Whatever crimes were committed were presumably contestable on points of law though I don’t remember much of the detailed discussion at the time. “Folly” seemed undeniable and I am sorry that you didn’t pick up the ironic reference to

    Either Antoine Boulay, comte de la Meurthe (deputy from Meurthe in the Corps législatif) or Napoleon’s chief of police, Fouché, said about his execution “C’est pire qu’un crime, c’est une faute”, a statement often rendered in English as “It was worse than a crime; it was a blunder.” The statement is also sometimes …

    As it happens I remember well a former Liberal PM saying to me in 2004 that the Iraq War was a war crime and the particular emotion I detected behind it was such as to suggest that cooling it was usually best.

  487. @mulga mumblebrain

    I’m not sure what that has to do with anything I have said about the dangers now faced. Reagan, whom I am glad was not my head of state was never as terrifying as some versions of the KGB tough guy autocrat could be seen to be. But cancel that if you disagree. I think Putin is seriously worrying partly because the US is now such a mess.

  488. @Wizard of Oz

    And the fraud of OZ speaketh again from behind his curtain seeking to perpetrate frauds to cover up the crimes of the empire that only the most gullible can still swallow.

    It’s not only pointless to contest as points of law whatevcer crimes you actually acknowledge were committed until the criminals can physcially be hauled before a court and compelled to answer for them

    You like to skip that step with respect to holding those criminal accountable for what they did, which means contesting it as points of law is a fruitless exercise.

    Russia is contesting the Empire of Lies in the only practical way to do so – with bullets, bombs and missiles.

    Since you like to cite the thoughts of great men to explain things, hear Mao: “Power comes out of the barrel of a gun.” To which I add: “Bullets are also ballots” that the otherwise powerless use to hold accountable their oppressors.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  489. @The Old Philosopher

    A glance at your comment picked up a reference to lies which might make it appropriate for you to consider this

    This is how Russia weaponizes disinformation – https://on.ft.com/3u9pj70 via @FT

  490. @HallParvey

    More likely scenario is giving AIDS gradually to all on the vaccine locomotive. Many of us are happy to be the unvaxxed control group.

  491. Ron Unz says:

    I just watched an excellent interview a day or two ago with Scott Ritter, the former Marine Intelligence officer and UN Weapons Inspector, including his discussion of the Ukraine biolabs:

    He comes across as very credible and seems to regard the documents presented by the Russians and their accusations as also quite credible. The entirety of the interview is very interesting, so take a look and decide for yourself.

  492. @Loup-Bouc

    thank you for this. my husband & i both believe (along with our gp) that we were infected in september 2019, it was o/c long before testing or that anyone really suspected covid. we were nursing my mother in law in washington state. she was in a upscale nursing home, where nearly all the residents died of what was called pulmonary fibrous. the nursing home was essentially empty…the chef, chauffeur, cardiologist nurse, most of the staff had left…we took her to our island home to nurse her, where she died. shortly thereafter on our return home to canada we were ill with what was as close to covid as i would ever want to come. o/c b/c of the dates it has always been discounted & our gp while he suspects/believes that is what we had cannot verify it b/c he simply wrote it off to pneumonia & as a result there is no test results or other trail. thank you again.

    • Replies: @garys3054
  493. @Wizard of Oz

    An Imperial disinformation stooge accusing the Russians of disinfo. Tell me that you are not this fatuously gullible, Wizz. With your boundless self-regard, surely you cannot want to be known as a dolt, or useless idiot. Sorry-‘useful’.

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  494. @Wizard of Oz

    One million murdered in Iraq in the 2003 aggression, after one million murdered in the US/UK inflicted sanctions regime, including 500,000 children under five, and tens of thousands killed in 1991, including the infamous massacre of the ‘turkey-shoot’ on the Kuwait-Basra Highway, of defenceless victims fleeing for their lives, and you plead a memory lapse of the ‘detailed discussion at the time’.
    That seems to me to indicate an insouciant indifference to mass murder, no doubt due to the nature of the untermenschen victims. The impression is hardened by your off-hand recommendation that ‘cooling it’ (what-decades more murderous sanctions?)was preferable to aggression and genocide. What a moral exemplar you are! The type that made Austfailia what it is today, and, more to the point, what it shortly will become.

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  495. @Ron Unz

    My recollection of Scott Ritter’s place in the scheme of UNSCOM activity in Iraq was slight so, after listening to the interview for a while I turned to reading up on him. So far I have read this late 90s interview

    chrome-distiller://50e97b2e-eb93-436d-84b8-ede326a386e6_5fad6ac7761abe5444d03c71d97a52a113a735c69be1286f14937f181bb6854a/?title=Interviews+-+Scott+Ritter+%7C+Spying+On+Saddam+%7C+FRONTLINE+%7C+PBS&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fwgbh%2Fpages%2Ffrontline%2Fshows%2Funscom%2Finterviews%2Fritter.html

    He comes out of the long Front line interview very well and his demeanour in the video that you have posted seems less calm and convincing. But I must move on right now leaving you with my recommendation that you should read what I have linked to give you useful background on Scott Ritter and his views and character

  496. @Ron Unz

    … take a look and decide for yourself.

    Since RT is currently not available one must watch videos like this (also those featuring Mearsheimer, McGovern, among others) to get Russia’s warped perspective on the war. It’s a mixed bag with this guy, Scott Ritter, who presents all kinds of nonsense (falsehoods, conjecture, hyperbole, hypocrisy, and contradiction) mixed in with his narratives.

    …Putin allowed to dictate to sovereign countries what their foreign policies should be?
    …Illusory notion of biological weapons targeting only ethnic Russians sent by birds?
    …Those people he purports to disagrees with (“Nazis“) need to be destroyed?
    …Once Saudi Arabia diversifies its trade, the US dollar will collapse overnight?
    …NATO is an offensive aggressive-alliance for bringing on regime change in Russia?
    …Putin somehow had no choice but to be lured into starting a war of aggression?
    …Setting up a no-fly zone (act of war) is OK if Russia did it over Ukraine’s air space?
    …Pretending (straw-man) Ukraine was to join NATO despite members rejecting this?

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  497. @mulga mumblebrain

    “GOF Reveals that SARS-CoV-2 is Man Made & Paid for by U.S Taxpayers

    [MORE]

    1999: U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services (HHS) funds research amplifying the infectious character of Coronaviruses.

    2000: In May* Ralph Baric successfully uses reverse genetics (cDNA**) to rescued infectious clone*** of SARS-CoV Urbani.

    2002:In April Christopher M Curtis, Boyd Young & Ralph Baric file a patent for a recombinant (chimeric) DNA means of producing “an infectious, replication defective, coronavirus.” Funded by NIH Grant GM63228. Dr. Shi Zhengli and colleagues increase infectivity by combining an HIV pseudovirus with SARS-CoV-1.

    2003: Dr. Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill receives NIH grant AI23946-08 officially classified as affiliated with NIAID. • Baric works on synthetically altering Coronaviridae.

    2006: Chinese**** researchers combine HCV, HIV-1, SARS-CoV-1 & SARS-CoV-2.

    2007: NSF Grant IIS-0513650 (Italy, France and Indiana University) study addresses FIRST CRITICAL STEP to control a pandemic – shut down International Travel. Given this knowledge why did Fauci tell Trump a Travel Ban was unnecessary?

    2011: Scientists express Concerns about GoF after Labs in Wisconsin and the Netherlands mutate already lethal H5N1 Asian Avian Influenza Virus (Bird Flu) increasing infectivity.

    2013: Middle East Respiratory Virus (MERS) outbreak with 30-40% fatality in Saudi Arabia (2014) and South Korea (2015). Rhesus macaques show early treatement with interferon-α2b and ribavirin critical to treatment success.

    Baric***** and Chinese scientists isolate 3 coronaviruses from bats with HKU4 spike protein – unable to infect human cells.

    2014: CDC accidentally exposes workers to Anthrax; ships deadly flu virus. NIH finds 50-year old forgotten vials of smallpox. Obama Administration halts Gain-of-Function Research

    2015: Dr. Zhengli et al “re-engineered HKU4 spike aiming to build its capacity to infect human cells.” “To this end, we introduced two single mutations…mutations in these motifs in coronavirus spikes have demonstrated dramatic effects on viral entry into human cells.”

    Baric and Zhengli announce they can make a more dangerous, virulent and infectious virus. ******

    2017: Gain-of-Function Research Ban Lifted

    2018: Zhengli presents research at Shanghai Jiao Tong University on 14 Nov. 2018 entitled “Studies on Bat Coronavirus and its cross-species infection.”
    This presentation has since been deleted from the University website.

    2019: Summer deletion of Wuhan Institute of Virology Corona Virus data bank.

    December 31 Wuhan Municipal Health Commission report******* discussing COVID-19 pneumonia – deleted”
    * U.S. Provisional Application No. 60/206,537, filed May 21, 2000
    ** Complimentary DNA is Reverse Transcription (mRNA->DNA) frequently using Moloney murine leukemia virus.
    *** https://www.pnas.org/content/100/22/12995
    **** Huang Q, Cheng Y, Guo Q, Li Q. Preparation of a Chimeric Armored RNA as a Versatile Calibrator for Multiple Virus Assays. Clinchem 2006; 52(7):1446-1448 and Supplement A.
    ***** Yang Y…Baric RS, et al. Receptor usage and cell entry of bat coronavirus HKU4 provide insight into bat-to-human transmission of MERS coronavirus. PNAS 2014;111(34):12516-12521. Funded with NIH grants RO1AI089728 &
    ****** Zhengli S, Baric RS, et sl. Two Mutations Were Critical for Bat-to-Human Transmission of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus. J Virol.2015;89(17):9199-9123. Funded by NIH grants RO1AI089728, RO1AI110700.
    ******* Wuhan City Health Committee (WCHC). Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission’s briefing on the current pneumonia epidemic situation in our city 2019 [updated 31 December 2019, 14 January 2020]. Available from: http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2019123108989

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_6f632cc8d75d4d8c8b90cc749262f4b4.pdf ?

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  498. @Been_there_done_that

    I did wonder if the quite excitable Scott Ritter of the late 90s had gone off the boil mentally to put it mildly when I viewed a little of what Ron linked. I shall now wait to see if Ron answers your charges effectively before spending more time on it. He came across as a good Boy Scout in the Frontline interview but, as such, I was inclined to accept his explicit and implied criticisms of the morally course Clinton’s and their regime.

  499. @mulga mumblebrain

    No,wrong team member boss. This one wants you to think he’s using all the clichés he’s paid to learn while being so obviously ridiculous he can end up working for ASIS.

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  500. @mulga mumblebrain

    Well, a bit better to get an earnest tryer on the job who actually wants to go on pouring out tendentious rubbish that some won’t pick so he can have your job one day. What an impoverished and gloomy imagination he has been afflicted with.

  501. Here’s another conspiracy theory about the Corona Virus:

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/2019-novel-coronavirus-vaccine-dated?s=r

    The weirdest part of this video is the following screengrab, showing the date of 7/23/2019 on this box of “2019 Novel Coronavirus vaccine”!

  502. @Ron Unz

    Odd things pop up on my phone screen and Idon’t claim any special credibility for Miranda Devine but I think you might like to consider your enthusiasm for ABC’s reliance on what they tell us were four independent intelligence people who I believe planted an anti Trimp story against Devine’s report of what we pretty well know intelligence insiders got up to here

    Suppression of Hunter Biden emails ‘all about getting rid of Donald Trump’
    8 hours ago

    New York Post columnist Miranda Devine says she’s “glad” New York Times readers now know the “truth” about Hunter Biden’s emails 17 months after they made the news.

    Ms Devine told Sky News Australia the suppression of the story in 2020 was “all about getting rid of Donald Trump” and “rescuing Joe Biden from the consequences of his own corruption” through four decades as a senator and eight years as a vice president.

    Her remarks come after the times said a “deep dive” into Hunter’s emails found they were “authentic”.

    She said the most egregious element of the response to the original story in 2020 was the intelligence officials who undermined the authenticity of the emails.

    “They claimed that the laptop, the information that we had published, had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation,” she said.

    “That was enough to get Joe Biden off the hook.

    “Those 51 intelligence officials are largely to blame and so that’s why we went to each one of them and we asked them if they now had an apology, wanted to rescind their claims that the laptop was Russian disinformation.

    “Not one of them apologised.

    “A few of them did respond but … they just doubled down, they said they were right.”

    Hmm. Have you some psychic powers denied to the 99.99999% of the world you have not persuaded to accept that you have found a “smoking gun” however often you assert it?

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  503. @Wizard of Oz

    The Fraud of Oz posts a link to propagandists for the Empire of lies as his answer to his babblings about points of law a his answer for holding accountable the Empire of Lies for the uncounted acts of aggression against dozens of countries since WWII.

    Good job.

    I did note, however, you took great pains to avoid and evade the issues I raised about using your points of law for holding criminals accountable that naturally ignored the means that need to be used to haul them before a court to make it possible.

    Insterad, the link you provided comments by supprters of the “rules based” order of the Empite you support are nothing but propaganda like that fake story about the maternity hospital or the church building in which over a thousand people were sheltering that the Russians wantonly destroyed. Were anyone to scrutinize the photo of the undamaged structure and its surroundings before it was allegedly struck and the photo depicting the destroyed building, they would instantly notice the photos do not depict either the same structures or the same area. For the area between the church and multistory buildings beyond it that allegedly frame the ruins is a lanscaped lawn that is nowhere to be seen in the picture of the destroyed building.

    The Rules based order of the empire of lies is fraud the actually means the Emp[ire makes the Law that all are constrained to obey whom the empire will destroy if they have the temerity to ignore but that do nothoing to constrain the empire from imposing it’s demands on its vessels.

    That’s your “rules based order” that Putin has told the empire to shove where the sun don’t shine.

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  504. @James Charles

    Baric (and Kadlec)is the key to the whole operation. An enhanced bird ‘flu comes next. Bird ‘flus are decimating bird populations in many places, with China already targeted on a number of occasions. This is the only way to be rid of the ‘useless eaters’ without destroying too much precious property.

  505. @Wizard of Oz

    Quoting Miranda Devine? Your lofty self-regard falls flat here, with a notorious, hereditary, Murdochite disinformer. Next you’ll be getting out the asbestos ouija board to