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With attention so heavily focused on the Russia-Ukraine war, the second anniversary of the outbreak of the Covid epidemic in the West passed without much public notice.

The geopolitical consequences of the global rupture between America’s NATO alliance and Russia may be enormous, perhaps heralding the end of the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency. But most of this still lies in the realm of mere possibility, while for two years Covid has already disrupted the daily lives of many billions around the world and reshaped economies. Total casualties in the Ukraine conflict are probably still in the low tens of thousands, but according to the Economist, excess deaths worldwide due to Covid may have already reached twenty million, with the U.S. share of that total possibly exceeding 1.3 million. If well over a million Americans have died either directly or indirectly from Covid, determining whether the cause was natural or man-made remains an important question to answer.

During the first year of the epidemic, a belief had taken hold that the virus was natural and this gradually hardened into establishment orthodoxy, with any public skeptics dismissed as “conspiracy theorists.” But then last May, Nicholas Wade, the former science editor of the New York Times, self-published a long article puncturing that propaganda-bubble by mustering the strong evidence that the virus was artificial, probably released by a lab-leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Numerous influential journalists soon seconded his analysis, and by the end of that same month, Facebook had officially reversed its censorship policy and permitted such theories to be freely discussed, thereby changing what two billion people around the world were allowed to read and write.

Although no such dramatic breakthroughs have occurred during the last few months, I do think there have been some developments that have shifted our understanding of the virus and its likely origins.

In late February, the New York Times gave front-page coverage to a couple of new preprints by top researchers that reanalyzed the early infection data from Wuhan. These papers identified the Huanan wildlife market as the original geographical locus of the disease, with no concentration of early cases in the vicinity of the Wuhan lab, located eight miles away on the other side of the Yangtze river. Many of the animals sold in that market were those suspected of being the original source of the virus, so the Times coverage seemed to affirm a natural origin rather than a lab-leak.

The Economist soon rendered a similar verdict, suggesting that the new scientific analysis “robustly” made the case that the virus had spread from a wildlife market rather than a lab, and many other media outlets took this same position.

Wade, however, stood his ground, soon publishing a short rejoinder in City Journal. He noted that although the market certainly represented the December epicenter of the Wuhan outbreak, it may have merely functioned as an amplifier, with its heavy daily foot-traffic creating a super-spreader event after the virus had arrived there from elsewhere in Wuhan.

His piece was entitled “Journalists, or PR Agents?”, and he focused as much on media criticism as on the virus issue itself, chiding the Economist for its credulity and the once-influential New Republic for its exaggerated declaration that “The lab leak theory is dead.” He rightly emphasized the considerable reluctance of most working scientists and journalists to take public positions at sharp variance with official orthodoxy.

  • Journalists, or PR Agents?
    Why science reporters don’t report fairly on the origins of Covid-19
    Nicholas Wade • City Journal • March 20, 2022 • 1,300 Words

Wade was not alone in standing by the lab-leak hypothesis. Last year Katherine Eban of Vanity Fair had published a very lengthy and detailed article in which she heavily drew upon Trump Administration sources to argue that the virus had been a product of China’s Wuhan lab, and she now returned with a 10,000 word article maintaining this position. Although the bulk of her new piece focused upon the background of the non-profit EcoHealth Alliance of Peter Dazsek, the organization that had served as a conduit of American funding for the Wuhan lab, she also criticized those claiming that the new research studies proved that the virus was natural.

After citing researchers who disputed the conclusions of the new papers, she noted that a study released almost simultaneously by China’s own CDC had actually provided some contrary evidence. All 457 swab samples collected from 18 different species of animals in the market had been negative for the virus, while all of the 73 positive tests were linked to human infections, results fully consistent with the possibility that the market had merely functioned as amplifying super-spreader. Indeed, although the Chinese government has officially favored a natural source, two years of its extensive efforts had failed to uncover any such animal carrier.

My own evaluation of these new scientific papers takes a middle-ground position. While the heavy concentration of early cases around the market and their absence around the lab hardly proves that the former was the original source of the outbreak, I do think it shifts the presumption substantially in that direction. If the virus had spread from an accidental lab-leak, we would naturally expect to see some pattern of early cases in that vicinity rather than on the other side of the large metropolis.

 

However, I believe that some much more important elements of these new research papers have gone almost entirely unnoticed in the media outlets covering the story, probably because the implications fell outside the “Overton Window” of acceptability and would inevitably provoke “Crimethink”.

In the second paragraph of his recent column, Wade accurately described the current framework of media discussion:

Two hypotheses have long been on the table. One is that the virus jumped naturally from some animal host, as many epidemics have done in the past. The other is that it escaped from a lab in Wuhan, where researchers are known to have been genetically manipulating bat viruses in order to predict future epidemics.

However, for two years I have been advocating a third, entirely different hypothesis. I have argued that there is strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the outbreak was the result of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably orchestrated by rogue elements of the Trump Administration.

Under this reconstruction, more than a million Americans have now died from the unintended lethal blowback of our eighty-year-old biowarfare program, a program that has received over \$100 billion in U.S. government funding. Surely such a scenario deserves enormous public attention if there exists even the slightest possibility that it might be correct.

And the new research studies heavily promoted by our elite media have considerably strengthened this case. According to their analysis, the Covid outbreak in Wuhan began somewhat later than had previously been assumed, with Patient Zero probably becoming infected in late November or early December, roughly a month later than the previous consensus date.

Under normal circumstances, this shift of a few weeks in timing would be completely unimportant, but the implications become explosive when juxtaposed with another known date that I have repeatedly emphasized in my articles. In April 2020 ABC News reported and Israeli TV soon confirmed that a secret Defense Intelligence Agency report prepared in “the second week of November” had described a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan. Therefore, this DIA report accurately described the Wuhan outbreak weeks before the first resident of China had even become infected, a striking anomaly obviously warranting very serious further investigation.

Until recently, I had confined my Covid analysis to a long series of articles, also collected together in a freely downloadable eBook. But beginning in February I did several video interviews in which I laid out my case, and these proved much more popular than I had expected. Despite the overwhelming focus of attention on the Russia-Ukraine war, during the last two months these videos have been viewed almost 300,000 times, and I find it difficult to believe that the important information they present has not come to the attention of a diligent investigative journalist such as Eban nor her two research assistants as they worked together preparing a long article on such closely-related matters. But if she is unaware, perhaps someone should inform her on Twitter.

Or consider another point I have emphasized in my series of articles and my video interviews. By February 2020, the headlines of the New York Times declared that Iran had become the world’s second epicenter of the Covid outbreak, with its political elites suffering very heavily. However, neither the Times nor almost any other Western media outlet ever reported that Iran’s government and media publicly accused America of having unleashed Covid as a biowarfare attack against their country and China, with Iran’s former president even filing an official complaint with the United Nations. Only our government-funded international propaganda outlet Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty took notice of those extremely serious Iranian allegations and dismissed them as absurd on the grounds that the Covid virus was known to be natural. But if Eban believes that the virus came from a lab, surely those original Iranian accusations would warrant a mention somewhere in her two articles, which total over 22,000 words and run some 65 pages.

Although the obvious facts regarding Covid’s origins that I have presented for the last two years in my articles and interviews have been totally ignored by our Western media, they may be widely recognized elsewhere. For decades, Sergey Glazyev has been a senior political and economic figure in Russia, even described in his Wikipedia page as a potential successor to President Vladimir Putin. In a business magazine interview published a few days ago, he casually referred to America’s Covid biowarfare attack against China as if the facts were well known to everyone in his circle:

Trump’s attempts to limit China’s development through trade war methods have failed. At the same time, they boomeranged at the United States itself. Then the Americans opened a biological war front by launching the coronavirus in China, hoping that the Chinese leadership would not cope with this epidemic and chaos would arise in China. However, the epidemic has demonstrated the low efficiency of healthcare and has created chaos in the United States itself. The Chinese system of government has shown much greater efficiency here as well. In the Celestial Empire, the mortality rate is significantly lower, and the pandemic was dealt with much faster there.

In a world separated into isolated media spheres, it is hardly surprising that ideas regarded as absolutely unthinkable in some political circles are treated as self-evidently obvious in others.

Prof. John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago ranks as one of America’s most distinguished political scientists. In 2016 he gave a 75 minute lecture describing the extremely provocative policies of America’s Ukrainian client-state, and warning that such total disregard for Russia’s legitimate national security interests would eventually provoke a forceful Russian reaction. His prescient analysis was ignored by all our policy-makers and languished on Youtube for six years until recent events suddenly brought him more than 24 million worldwide viewers, an audience probably matched by few serious foreign policy presentations in the history of the Internet. Our current disaster might have been averted if his views had been taken seriously in the past.

I would hope that a proper investigation of the true origins of the devastating Covid epidemic and the massive risks created by our existing biowarfare programs does not follow a similar unfortunate trajectory.

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  1. gay troll says:

    So, according to Ron, some rogue neocon released this very dangerous virus onto Chinese soil, but then it boomeranged back and hit the U.S. and western allies the worst of all, and we are lucky to have such safe and effective vaccines to protect us from the bioweapon. Neither the deep state nor Donald Trump had anything to do with it; it was probably Mike Pompeo flying around on a broomstick. Big pharma certainly had nothing to do with it, and neither did the mass media, and we can all be grateful for their public health leadership during this time of crisis. Sure, the virus was probably developed in a U.S. lab, but pay no attention to the BSL containment breaches documented at Ft. Detrick in 2019, that’s just a conspiracy theory, and you must be a silly anti vaxxer, or else an inept pro China propagandist. Now here’s more Andrew Anglin to convince you that Russia isn’t owned by the same globalist yahoos running this COVID op. Be sure to get fully jabbed, especially if you’re a healthy young male, these things are FDA approved you know.

    Thank you so much Ron!

  2. I understand that this site is frequented most by Americans but I think your headline of this article applies to the majority of people in every nation. We’re seeing with the Ukraine thing how utterly brainwashed and clueless the masses are. With covid I would still give the masses the benefit of doubt…they freaked out collectively, it was a biological issue hitting close to home. But with Ukraine you can see how utterly brainwashed everyone is. Doesn’t matter left or right, American or German….the world is blindfolded.

  3. Ron Unz says:
    @RJ Macready

    I understand that this site is frequented most by Americans but I think your headline of this article applies to the majority of people in every nation.

    That’s a very fair point. Actually, my original title didn’t have “American” in it, but once I learned of Glazyev’s views, I decided it wasn’t fair to include the Russians among the deluded. But then again, I’d assume the populations of all the NATO countries are in the same boat as the Americans, and given American MSM domination, probably most of the rest of the world as well.

    So having “American” in the title is more wrong than right, and I think I’ll exercise my prerogative as the author, and remove it.

    • Agree: frankie p
  4. Wokechoke says:

    Covid19 was BioWar. It’s certainly put much of the world on a war footing. The masks not too dissimilar to the issuance of gas masks by the French and British in 1938. Hitler will gas us all!

    The election of Biden ensured war in Ukraine, gas shortages and war time censorship. Did anyone miss the swearing in under martial law?

  5. However, for two years I have been advocating a third, entirely different hypothesis. I have argued that there is strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the outbreak was the result of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably orchestrated by rogue elements of the Trump Administration.

    Considering how little information is available, there is nothing wrong with a rational theory which combines both motive and means. The US has constructed all those biolabs for some reason, and speculating that the lab results were meant to be used isn’t unreasonable to me. Besides that, the US seems to have been more active in biowar “research” than anyone else in the past half-century or so.

    But from an individual point of view, my own interest is more in personal survival than speculations. Covid seems to be something a person can catch repeatedly, and with potential devastating effects each and every time. Those effects include Long Covid. A check of the NYT Covid site says an average of 649 Americans have died every day for the past couple of weeks from the 27,000 illnesses during that time. (2.4%) Only 9 of those people were in indiana, and 4.3% of the 210 afflicted Hoosiers died. In Indiana I’d wager most of the dead folk were elderly, for geezer mask use around here has gone to nearly nothing.

    The Race to Reduce Covid-19 Transmission: An Update on 67 Intranasal & 6 Oral Vaccines
    https://absolutelymaybe.plos.org/2022/03/30/the-race-to-reduce-covid-19-transmission-an-update-on-66-intranasal-6-oral-vaccines/

    A new kind of vaccination seems to me to be the best way out of the Covid mess. An easy/painless, inexpensive, and highly effective way of topping off our immune systems is the way to go – especially if the job has to be repeated every few months.

    But back to those biolabs – it’s time to shut most all of them down, for some of the diseases “they’re” playing with could make Covid seem like a walk in the park.

  6. “…second anniversary of the outbreak of the Covid epidemic in the West”

    1. epidemic or pandemic?
    If you write “West” you are suggesting more than one country, your are suggesting a border crossing epidemic which is called pandemic.
    An epidemic is a plague confined to a country’s region or to a single country.

    2. no epidemic and no pandemic?
    There is a pandemic of Jewish pharma fraudsters. Not more and not less. Everything else is a blender to hide another deadly fraud of the Jew.

  7. …no concentration of early cases in the vicinity of the Wuhan lab, located eight miles away on the other side of the Yangtze river.

    The other research lab in Wuhan was located very close to the wet market, just a few minutes by foot, and had a lower security level classification.

    NYT – Published August 27, 2021 – Julian E. Barnes

    There were two labs in Wuhan doing work on the coronavirus before the pandemic, but intelligence agencies have mostly focused on the work done at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

  8. SafeNow says:

    Wade accurately described the current framework of media discussion:

    Two hypotheses have long been on the table… The other is that it escaped from a lab in Wuhan, where researchers are known to have been genetically manipulating bat viruses in order to predict future epidemics. (emphasis supplied)

    Wade should have said “it was ALLOWED to escape.” If it was indeed a lab leak, humans did this. I blame mainly the Americans who were funding it. They knew they were playing the most dangerous game in the history of the world. They should have tactfully said to the Chinese: “Part of our funding this important work shall be funding the attendant extreme precautions that such work mandates. Let us be partners in deploying our expertise. We know much about this, and you Chinese are extremely knowledgeable in this. Tell us how much we need. Money is no object.”

    Nimitz: “It is foolish to be grudging about safety precautions for fear that they might turn out to have been unnecessary.” (Concluding his report on the tragic Halsey Hurricane.)

  9. Jon Chance says: • Website

    Is it not ironic that “conservative” Ron Unz, who appears to promote freedom of expression and market-based economics, is also promoting the Chinese Communist Party’s “efficient” response to the Plandemic?

    https://PlandemicSeries.com

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @SBaker
  10. DeSelby says:

    Ron, you may like to look at this; https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00215-2

    “The Omicron variant of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus has more mutation than any known predecessor. ..But more than a dozen of Omicron’s mutations are extremely rare..”

    And this https://www.stopgof.com/english/omicron-origin/

    “And in the pre-outbrake omicron spike, there are 26 dN mutations in a row (-> source picture), without a single dS mutation in between. That many non-synonymous mutations in a row have never before seen in natural, but a few times in synthetic sarbecoviruses.”

    “SARS2 variants usually inherit a few mutations from the parental strain and then evolve a few new ones themselves (CoVariants provides a nice overview here). Scientists then try to figure out what the new mutations do.
    Instead of inheriting only parental mutations, omicron “copied” almost all of it’s spike mutations from other variants (with often younger MRCAs!) on publication! That’s a bit like directly inheriting genes not only from your father, but also from 6 younger cousins and 5 classmates you first met when you were 7.
    Almost all of omicron dN mutations were already known about half a year BEFORE omicron emerged! Those not from variants were mostly known to confer resistance towards vaccines, or from vaccine-associated publications.
    Keep in mind that this virus has ~10,000 amino acids, and each one could mutate into 19 other amino acids. The chance that only a known mutation evolves by chance is 1 in 190,000/500 (=# known mutations), so 1 in 400. For 20 it’s 1 in 400^20, basically impossible, that’s 1 in a 60+ digit number.”

    These articles have nice graphics of the evolution of COVID.

    This seems to support Larry Romanoff’s theory that each of the outbreaks have been different strains and that the strains seem to have been targeted at the genetic dispositions of the affected population.

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  11. I do recall – some time ago – reading a graphic on the news. Graphic had stated that in the years 2014-2015, 2015-2016, 2016-2017, 2017-2018, and 2018-2019, the flu cases in the US averaged about 38 million a year/some years more and some years less. Then, suddenly, in the year of 2019-2020 flu season, the flu magically dropped, as it did in 2020-2021. In fact it was so low, it barely got to over 1800 cases across the US. Wow- what a drop. That’s like .00005%… not even possible.

    • Replies: @2stateshmustate
    , @Nancy
  12. Two Years After Covid, Eyes Remain Firmly Shut.

    Not all eyes. The 2-year annivesary (arguable how one defines that) of the Kung Flu PanicFest was duly noted by Peak Stupidity on the ides of March in “In Memoriam of the 2 Year Kung Flu PanicFest”.

    What we have noted since the Ukraine-Russia war started is that MSM coverage transitioned quickly and smoothly – within a couple of days, I’d say – from the PanicFest to 24/7/coverage of the conflict in eastern Europe.* There’s a reason for that. The American people and other Western populations (Canada being the big example) had had about enough of the Totalitarianism developed during this PanicFest. People were resisting (still are), and then there was Ottawa.

    The narrative had to be switched over to this Ukraine/Russia War being the BIG STORY before things got out of hand and the people went farther than peaceful big rig driving and honking. Governments didn’t want to lose face and show weakness, as then even Americans might get bold and organized.

    What’s interesting is the fairly big overlap of the people who dutifully got vaccinated and those who are all about coming down hard on Russia. It’s Canadian, and it’s polling data (uggghhh), but E.H. Hail of the Hail to You blog found a couple of interesting bar graphs presented in his comments and discussed here. You don’t sound like the “follower” type, so I am glad you didn’t get sucked in by this 2nd big narrative of “Evil Russia”. (I wouldn’t have thought so, but then I’d have thought you’d have seen through the 2 year media feast on the Kung Flu too.)

    .

    * I do agree with you on all the general ideas you espouse regarding it, such as that NATO should have been disbanded 30 years ago, that the US Deep State has been fomenting this trouble since ’14 or before, that, whatever you think of Vlad Putin, this is not the business of the US, that we are making fools of ourselves building this coalition, and that our country is losing the last vestiges of respect around the world due to the Feral Gov’t/Deep State/MIC/MSM’s words and actions. (That’s a real shame, as this country had built up SO MUCH GOODWILL by the end of the Cold War, especially in Europe – all dissipated by now).

    I wrote “general ideas”, because on details, I’m not a follower of this story. That’s simply because I don’t get sucked in by THE BIG STORY of the MSM as others clearly do – helps to have not had a TV hooked up for 23 years. (The big story on this is very much what writers on your site have been bringing up – loss of \$ reserve currency status, bad will toward the US accumulating, etc.)

  13. How do you account for a 100 billion over 80 years?
    I’m assuming it was not one billion and change every year but rather phases of high expenditures alternating with others when capabilities were just maintained. Also, how to compare say a million dollars in 1948 to a million in 1998?

  14. Alvin says:

    Ron,

    I’ve asked you this question several times before but have always received a less than unequivocal response. Do you still believe that Santa Clara County Public Health Director Sara Cody saved – as you claimed in a March/April 2020 post – millions of lives? Assuming that malignant subhuman even saved one life by her lockdown and other measures, how many lives and life hours were lost as a consequence of lockdowns, unemployment, poverty, school closure, loneliness, depression, suicides, missed medical (non-Covid) medical treatments and diagnoses, etc.? Was it worth it, long term damage to younger generations, was any of it real, does Covid even exist?

    Thanks,

    Alvin

  15. Maybe slightly O/T, but what’s your stance now on China having defeated the Covid-one-niner? I think what’s going on now is silly and unnecessary, but the Chinese hate losing face more than anybody. Pres-for-Life Xi over there was so proud that China had DEFEATED the living daylights out of this virus. It looks bad that there are many cases – whatever that term means nowadays – now, all over, and he can’t backtrack at this point, as benign as the whole thing is at this point.

    The rosy-eyed China followers have used that country as an example of how to do up Totalitarianism right! What would they have to say now?

    I have an inside source who tells me that lots of the on-going Shanghai LOCKDOWN nonsense is due to a long-term battle between Mr. Xi and Jiang Zemin who is Mr. International Finance, a long-time Shanghai political figure. Coincidence about that? I don’t care, honestly, but they are quarantining babies now in Shanghai, for crying out loud!

    Peak Stupidity is a global maximum.

    .

    See “It’s baaaacck! The Kung Flu in China.”

    • Agree: Marcion
    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  16. Dumbo says:

    but according to the Economist, excess deaths worldwide due to Covid may have already reached twenty million, with the U.S. share of that total possibly exceeding 1.3 million.

    I see that Ron continues promoting a lie — a lie that justifies lockdowns, masks, forced vaccinations, “vaccine passports” and lots of other abuses that have costed the lives and the livelihoods of many.

    Ron, there are no “excess deaths” from Covid. in terms of deaths, it was like a regular flu. Even the lying CDC has recently revised down their numbers, haven’t you heard?

    Millions of people remain unvaxxed and despite the government telling them that they would have a “winter of illness and death”, they did fine. Hell, the Amish did not test, did not jab, did not use masks, and they did fine. There was no “Amish genocide”.

    As for “biowarfare”, it will happen for sure, but it will not happen by viruses — it will happen with vaccines and in particular with their new mRNA and DNA gene technology. This is here to stay and it will be used for lots of things and it will be mandatory, contrary to viruses. No virus is mandatory.

    The greatest trick that the Devil ever conceived was to pretend that the poison was the cure.

    P.S. “according to the Economist”, what a joke. Does anyone believe anything anymore from that globalist rag?

  17. On the premises of covid, the year before the outbreak, when there was an epidemic spread by drones in cina, we have now some seemingly indirect confirmation from ukraine (frim telegram channels)
    💢Russia claims US was going to use chemtrails, aeresolized pathogens from drones/UAVs, to spread bioweapons upon populations

    The Russian military has presented documents showing Ukraine’s interest in using drones to deliver weaponized pathogens developed in US-funded biolabs. Names of US officials involved in the biolabs projects, and the role the current US president’s son played in the program, were also made public during the special briefing on Thursday.

    One of the key pieces of evidence was a letter from the Ukrainian company Motor Sich to the Turkish drone manufacturer Baykar Makina – makers of the Bayraktar TB2 and Akinci UAVs – dated December 15, 2021. The Ukrainians specifically asked if the drones could carry 20 liters of aerosolized payload to a range of 300 kilometers – putting them in range of a dozen major Russian cities and almost all of Belarus.

    “We are talking about the development by the Kiev regime of technical means of delivery and use of biological weapons with the possibility of their use against the Russian Federation,” said Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, commander of the Russian Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Forces.

    -RT

    @NewResistance

  18. Rebel Roy says:

    I agree with your hypothesis Ron Unz.Except I believe the controllers wanted to tank not only China’s economy but this one as well.Mass death and misery suits them just fine as long as it is the masses suffering.It covers their theft of our wealth and its aftereffects,it consolidates their control of even the smallest businesses,allows them to enact new laws to control us and serves as a depopulation system in several ways.The Synagogue of Satan is ushering in the one world government. P.S.I enjoyed your piece on RFK jr’s book. Christ is Lord! The Father will give all eternal life if you just ask.I implore you to turn to Him people as time is running very short.Even the worst sinner will be embraced by God,just ask.Once you are saved the Lord will never let you go.All the electronic devices should be shut off so that the wisdom of God can speak to us.Many intelligent people here but more than a few lack original thinking.The basics,stick to things that are natural and of God.Trust in Him and He will never let you down.

  19. @RJ Macready

    We’re seeing with the Ukraine thing how utterly brainwashed and clueless the masses are.

    Something most of us here already knew, of course. But what’s shocking (to me, anyway) is how quickly, efficiently, and thoroughly the masses can be brought to heel regarding something they didn’t even have a clue about the preceding week.

    And in no time flat they are ready to send unbelievers to the gulag, or worse. Treason it is, even to doubt! Only traitors ask questions!

    Such effective powers of mobilization portend horrible things, I fear. Things few of us even imagine today.

    • Agree: Timur The Lame, Charon
    • Replies: @Rooster14
  20. I used to be afraid of Covid.

    Now I’m afraid of the people who are afraid of Covid.

    What monsters. They’ve destroyed the whole world, and my own little world along with it. And they don’t care.

    • Replies: @Towey
    , @Dumbo
    , @acementhead
  21. Franz says:

    As I wind things back, Covid actually hit after a decade’s worth of bilge about “opioids” (they mean narcotics) which was an artful conflation of three different subjects, the goal of which was to instill fear.

    The fear is still there. Further back on the weave, we find the opioid business was cover-up for the economic results of late 20th century “free trade” after 2008 which everyone from conservative pundits to union shop stewards had predicted.

    But now that the results are in, the solution is? Biden letting in more immigrants. So all of these operations lead by necessity to an internal war that won’t be civil or even leave a country behind after a few years.

    Poverty will not make Americans complacent to their own replacement. Which remains the endgame.

  22. Ron Unz writes:

    according to the Economist, excess deaths worldwide due to Covid may have already reached twenty million, with the U.S. share of that total possibly exceeding 1.3 million

    Yes of course, The Economist would never tell us a fib, would it ?

    [MORE]

    After all, let’s look at its ownership structure. It is 43% owned by Rothschild lackeys the Agnelli family and 21% owned by the Rothschild’s themselves.
    In fact, Sir Evelyn Robert de Rothschild was Chairman of the company from 1972 to 1989.
    I don’t know who the present Chairman is but you can bet London to a brick that it’s some sycophant of the Rothschilds.

    Ron Unz writes in the article that Nicholas Wade, a man that Ron himself attaches a great deal of credibility to, was ‘chiding the Economist for its credulity’.

    How ironic then that Ron NEVER chides the credulity of the Economist himself – even though it has a track record of being a worthless establishment rag that routinely lies on all manner of issues.

    Ron goes on to write:

    …. there is strong …. evidence that the outbreak was the result of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably orchestrated by rogue elements of the Trump Administration.

    The Covid Psyop was a long planned, carefully orchestrated hoax that the world [for the most part] responded to in lockstep.

    There is NO CHANCE that it was done by ‘rogue elements’ of any administration seeing as no one would take the risk and ‘go rogue’ (thereby endangering their own lives and those of their family), by embarking on a journey that hadn’t first been VETTED and APPROVED (in triplicate) by the controllers of the western world.

    Of course I refer to the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (ZUBCAR), aka the ‘Zio cabal’ – that entity that controls the entire western financial system, owns EVERY western politician of note and the health bureaucracies, academia and the MSM.

    There is no ‘Trump administration’ just as there is no ‘Biden Administration’. The U.S political system is a ONE PARTY TYRANNY (of which there are two factions – the GOP and the Dems – with slightly differing policies).

    This One Party Tyranny prostrates itself to the same Zio cabal master.

    No matter which faction of this one party tyranny occupies the White House, its constituents (ie: the Mike Pompeo’s, the Antony Blinken’s, John Bolton’s etc, and the Presidents themselves), are just FRONT MEN and actors that READ A SCRIPT handed to them by their Zio masters.

    There are NEVER any rogue actors in the mix (or at least not for long).

    That said, Senator Paul Wellstone, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 was indeed what Ron Unz would call a ‘rogue element’, as he was intent on initiating a Congressional investigation into the official narrative of this Mossad orchestrated False Flag.
    Wellstone was well aware that the official U.S government 9/11 narrative was scientifically untenable.

    So the Zio cabal killed him, his wife and daughter, and a few of Wellstone’s staffers for good measure.

    That’s what happens to ‘rogue elements’. Everyone in D.C (The District of Corruption) knows that.

    That’s why the likelihood of occurrences of future ‘rogue elements’ is infinitesimally small.
    Because, if and when they do surface, they will be snuffed out in short order.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  23. Eyes remaining shut has nothing to do with c 19.

    Or two years.Or America.

    Or nine eleven,Fukishima,and the bi den.

    “hoping for a proper investigation”?…Yea,right?

  24. Amon says:

    Has Unz even written an article of his own lately that isn’t some glorified self promotion?

    I also notice that once again he only takes statements seriously if they are delivered by someone in the MSM or a government member.

  25. …Patient Zero probably becoming infected in late November or early December, roughly a month later than the previous consensus date.

    If true, this would invalidate the genesis of the alternative hypothesis, which derived from the fact that the US team at the Wuhan military games performed relatively poorly overall, unlike during the Olympics (though the two venues have different participants), thus raising suspicions that some of these US competitors were not athletes but part of a covert operation to plant the virus.

    In April 2020 ABC News reported and Israeli TV soon confirmed that a secret Defense Intelligence Agency report prepared in “the second week of November” had described a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan.

    Here is a link to the ABC News story, with a quote that contradicts the claim that the report was issued before the infections began (“…weeks before the first resident of China had even become infected…“).

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

    April 9, 2020

    Following the report’s release, other intelligence community bulletins began circulating through confidential channels across the government around Thanksgiving, the sources said. Those analyses said China’s leadership knew the epidemic was out of control even as it kept such crucial information from foreign governments and public health agencies.

    An Israeli publication pointed out that NATO and Israeli officials had also been briefed. The purpose of sharing such warnings would have been to allow health officials in the respective countries to initiate precautionary measures. Yet there is no evidence that any of the thirty NATO countries or Israel acted upon these alleged briefings. Nor has a single named official ever confirmed knowledge or recollection of such a briefing around Thanksgiving 2019. And the ABC News story states that the Pentagon then denied that such an intelligent reported existed.

    Furthermore, since it was recently reported that a particular sequence of the original Wuhan virus had been patented by Moderna years before its release there, the notion that a rogue US operative would have intentionally released such a virus, which could be tracked back to one of its sources, so as to launch a biological warfare attack against China – which is the essence of the alternative conjecture – is highly implausible.

    Therefore, the entire attempted alternative explanation has no firm support from any corroborated evidence. It is basically just a conspiratorial fantasy that some readers will surely be eager to believe nonetheless.

    • Thanks: Ben the Layabout
  26. @RJ Macready

    But with Ukraine you can see how utterly brainwashed everyone is. Doesn’t matter left or right, American or German….the world is blindfolded. with Ukraine you can see how utterly brainwashed everyone is. Doesn’t matter left or right, American or German….the world is blindfolded.

    I think it really depends which part of the world one lives in. I see it as a spectrum with the thickest blindfolds being where the Anglo news media has the highest influence.

    Here in southeast asia, a great many people opened their eyes during the HK Protests/Riots. Now a sizeable portion of people distrust Western media. Sure, there will still be those who are wilfully ignorant, but hey, all population spreads exist in a continuum of very stupid to slightly less stupid.

  27. @Ron Unz

    But not the headline in the PDF?

  28. AndrewR says:
    @gay troll

    I bet you don’t hear many conspiracy theories that you don’t buy into.

    Russia tried to play ball with the “globalist yahoos” but it didn’t work. The US has always been intent on regime change (and full vassal status) for Russia. Well, Russia is done trying to humor the US. But you in all your big-brainedness think Biden and Schwab and Putin are all guzzling champagne together right now and laughing at the rubes they fooled.

    • Replies: @WizardWhoKnocks
  29. I would hope that a proper investigation of the true origins of the devastating Covid epidemic and the massive risks created by our existing biowarfare programs does not follow a similar unfortunate trajectory

    Now that bioweapons labs have been found in Ukraine by the Russians, I think that they and the Chinese will force the issue at the UN. I don’t know how much Western MSM can cover up/ignore the matter then.

  30. Mark G. says:

    Whether the U.S. government funded gain of function research that created a dangerous disease that escaped from a lab or the U.S. government engaged in a biowarfare attack that boomeranged back and hit us, the U.S. government comes out looking bad here. The media here in the U.S. should be acting as a watch dog of the government but instead has turned into a lap dog.

    The media gets punished if they put the government in a bad light. The government has tax and regulatory powers it can use against the media and the media is perfectly aware of this. Any time some government official says the media needs to do more to stop the spread of misinformation or disinformation, the media knows that is the signal for what they have to do.

    On the other hand, there can be rewards for those who play ball. It came out recently that the U.S. government passed out a billion dollars to media organizations to promote the Covid vaccines. Any media organization that questioned the safety or effectiveness of the vaccines or didn’t make efforts to discredit any alternatives to the vaccines wouldn’t get any of the money and might actually have the government come after them to punish them.

    Unless we can do a better job upholding freedom of press in this country and maintaining separation of press and government, the situation here will continue to worsen.

    • Replies: @Sam Hildebrand
  31. AnonTap says:

    Did you investigate the CDC “defective” initial test kit? What if that test kit was designed for the original stem of the virus and not the one which mutated on its way to China?

    • Replies: @garys3054
  32. anastasia says:

    How does Unz explain the US, in releasing this virus in China and Iran, not anticipating that the virus would come to the US. The US had the most cases. They had to have anticipated it, and if they did, did they want Americans to die too?

    And why would the US allow China to give us masks and test kits (the testing was created by a Chinese doctor and that doctor in Germany) without being concerned that they could engage in a vengeful act in the manufacture of this material that was slotted to be sent to the US. Surely, it must have crossed the minds of Chinese intelligence that the US did this to them. If you could figure this out, why couldn’t Chinese intelligence? Are they as dumb and corrupt as our intelligence agencies?

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  33. If well over a million Americans have died either directly or indirectly from Covid, determining whether the cause was natural or man-made remains an important question to answer.

    Discovering the actual origin would be merely interesting: Even if they pin this on someone or some entity, nobody is going to jail, though a few might meet untimely demises in accidents and suicides.

    The bigger story is how well over a hundred country governments threw existing pandemic response plans out the window. I joked here nearly two years ago that when China locked down hard, the leaders of the “Free World” seemed to collectively say, “You can do that? Hold my beer,” and went off on the largest series of social science and medical experimentation in all of history.

    If the vaxxes themselves haven’t killed a million or so globally already, the lockdowns surely did, and now we’re reading stories that infants/children who came through the last two years can’t even defecate without help at an age we would associate with being potty-trained and are also having significant difficulty socialising and making friends. Did we come out of either of the two World Wars of the twentieth century with a mass of children with such problems? We certainly shouldn’t go into the next one so equipped.

    For me the real story is that they seriously degraded multiple societies. What I want to know is if that itself was man-made and deliberate: Is the Great Reset a real thing?

  34. geokat62 says:

    I would hope that a proper investigation of the true origins of the devastating Covid epidemic and the massive risks created by our existing biowarfare programs does not follow a similar unfortunate trajectory.

    Ron, I’d like to introduce you and your readers to Dr Richard Fleming.

    Dr. Fleming is a whistleblower who testified under oath whether Covid-19 and related vaccines are a deliberate attack on the United States. Dr. Fleming consented to this testimony being used in any appropriate proceeding.

    Please watch the video in it’s entirety here:

    [MORE]

    https://galleries.vidflow.co/awitness

    Dr. Richard Fleming’s Credentials:

    1. Medical Doctor, MD degree (specialising in Nuclear cardiology, Cardiology in Internal medicine; Fellow of American College of physicians; Fellow of American society of Internal Medicine)

    2. Ph.D. in physics

    3. JD, Doctor of Law

    Dr Fleming is an inventor in the medical field and holds patents for his invention. He has authored 400-500 papers. He also serves on editorial and review boards for professional journals.

    Start of transcript…

    Q. Is COVID-19 A Bioweapon? A. YES

    Incomplete transcript continued below…

    3min Dr. Richard Fleming has written a book posing the question if covid-19 [always write in lower case tiny letters because upper case capital letters was a tyranical intimidation propaganda tactic – unless it’s truthful: COVID CRIMES] is a bioweapon. Dr. Fleming states that “the function of the book was to provide information that the general public could look at, and also provide evidence for the legal system and medical system to understand the Gain of Function research that has been carried out for a couple of decades, to show where the money came from, what papers were published, showing what types of Gain of Function research occurred and to show the patents, to clearly lay out two decades worth of work that’s been conducted funded primarily by the United States, although other countries have been involved, and to show how there’s no evidence that Sars-Cov-2, (the virus that causes Covid-19) is naturally occurring, no animal model for it, and to show the type of research that has been done with coronaviruses funded by the U.S., supported by NIAID, NIH, Department Of Defence, moneys that went to Peter Daszak, Ecohealth, to Ralph Baric, University of Carolina, to Shi Zhengli, Wuhan Institute of Virology, and several other universities around the country, including in the state of Texas.”

    4m40 Dr. Fleming: The biological weapons convention treaty states that any adjustment or modification of a biological agent like this virus that doesn’t provide a benefit for mankind, is a biological weapon. These particular changes in this virus, including the PRRA inserts, which are amino acid that were inserted that are very critical for the Furin cleavage site for this virus to infect, the insertion sites that were made with HIV and simian or ape-like HIV equivalent viruses. The prion-like domain at the top of the spike protein as well as the HIV Glycoprotein 120 insert that’s critical for the attachment of this virus to cells, all of which are not naturally occurring. We’ve looked at all the different coronaviruses that exist on the planet. None of them have PRRA insert, none of them have this tremendous amount of HIV inserts, none of them have a regional binding domain that is a prion-like binding domain, which means it attaches to cells. And prions are things that are abnormal proteins that cause other proteins to become abnormally folded. To be clear, genetic changes were made to the spike protein in a lab to create what is known as Covid-19. That’s what the data shows.

    6m20 Interviewer: Research done in 2010 by Shi Zhengli, who’s often called the bat lady, her goal of that research was to increase for the ability of the virus to infect human cells. Naturally occurring spike protein from horseshoe bats were unable to bind to human ACE2 receptors. It sounds like you discovered at least two man-made inserts into the Sars-Cov-2 spike protein genetic code, that proved it was produced in a lab?” Dr. Fleming: Right, the research papers Shi Zhengli, Baric, and others published, they were very clear and somewhat proud of the fact that they’ve been able to modify the virus and insert changes to it that made it more infective and potentially more dangerous. [—–transcript missing—-]
    9m40 Interviewer: This genetic code for the Furin cleavage insert in the PRRA, is that found in any other coronaviruses in nature? Dr. Fleming: None. There is absolutely no other coronaviruses that has this PRRA insert. Since mutations occur one nucleotide base at a time, you will have to come up with a phenomenal explanation as to why 12 nucleotide bases suddenly inserted themselves into a virus that none of the other viruses in that category have. [—–transcript missing—-]
    11m Interviewer: Are you saying sections of the genetic code of HIV were inserted into SARS-COV-2 virus? Dr. Fleming: Shi Zhengli published this early on, many years ago, where she was very proud that she did this. She used a HIV pseudovirus to do it, and we also know that HIV glycoprotein 120 is a prion.
    Interviewer: So this is the HIV that became famous in the 80s and 90s. It’s THAT HIV!?” Dr. Fleming: Right.
    Interviewer: And somebody took pieces of a genetic code of HIV and put it into Sars-Cov-2?
    Dr. Fleming: That’s what Shi Zhengli admitted to in publications that she had yes. It was to increase infectivity to make it more infective. But it is even clearer that what she was going for was the development of a prion disease, because where everybody is coming up to speed with a virus and how challenging it can be to deal with it, what’s even more challenging to deal with are prions. Because prion diseases are relatively new in our understanding for treatment, and they cause permanent damage unless they can be reversed. So the development of a prion putting HIV glycoprotein 120 in there attaching to the sialic acid receptor, there is nothing about that, that is advantageous for people, and the ability to produce prion diseases is quite a weapon.
    Interviewer: How lethal are prion diseases? Dr. Fleming: People die from prion diseases.
    Interviewer: This process of inserting amino acids to increase infectivity, is that Gain-of-Function?
    Dr. Fleming: Right, so Gain-Of-Function is anything you do that changes a naturally occurring biological agent like this virus. The premise of Gain-Of-Function really has a good premise behind it. The original idea is that if you could step ahead of an infectious agent, you could do a good job at providing treatments for people, and knowing when and where it’s going to spread. This isn’t a step ahead. This isn’t a single nucleotide base. This is a spike protein that has an HIV glycoprotein-120 insert into it. This is a spike protein that has four amino acids to make a Furin cleavage site, the PRRA insert. This is a spike protein that has multiple HIV and SIH inserts. This is not something that evolutionary evolved. The evolution of something with this many changes would take hundreds or thousands of years, it’s not staying a step ahead of it. And making this provided no advantage to human beings so it makes it a biological weapons treaty violation. This is playing God.

    Dr. Fleming: That was a lie.
    Interviewer: And that lie can be proven by publicly available documents?
    Dr. Fleming: Dr. Fauci denied under oath that they provided any Gain-Of-Function research despite the fact that we have a long track record of Gain-Of-Function research. In fact, that Gain-Of-Function research even occurred during the time that it was shut down during the Clinton administration due to concerns by scientists like myself that saw problems with infections getting out from Gain-Of-Function research. That money still got funnelled around primarily through Peter Daszak to whom it got funneled out to Ralph Baric and Shi Zhengli and other sources, and they’re even denying that they’re connected to each other, which just completely goes in the face that they have publications, published papers, with both of their names, Baric and Zhi Zhengli are on there. You can find publications that show NIH funding. This was not a well hidden secret. NIH have now come out since with a statement, admitting that they have provided Gain-Of-Function research.
    Interviewer: Part of this Gain-Of-Function was designed to make bat coronavirus spike proteins infectious to humans when they were not before?
    Dr. Fleming: It’s very clear from the research grants that was payed for by the United States from the published papers that Shi Zhengli and the others have published, by the patents that have been published, that they’ve specifically set out to increase and made possible the ability of these viruses to infect, particularly with the HKU4(Tylonycteris bat coronavirus HKU4), and the HIV pseudovirus glycoprotein-120 inserts that Shi Zhengli and the others were involved with, that they intentionally sought to make this more infectious and in fact accomplished it.
    Interviewer: Who were the main players in these genetic engineering experiments?
    Dr. Fleming: The primary ones behind this that we know of is Peter Daszak, Ecohealth, Ralph Baric, University of Carolina, Shi Zhengli, Wuhan Institute of Virology. But we know there’s been other individuals involved, we know that other universities were involved including here in Texas. I began querying federal funding sources of Ecohealth and Gain-Of-Function research. That allowed me to run down the grant numbers. What we have is the actual grant numbers, how much moneys there were, wether it came from the Department Of Defence, which payed for half of this.
    18m55 Interviewer: Did you discover any attempts to cover up the funding of this gain of function research?
    Dr. Fleming: Yes, there were a lot of attempts, but they were not very good as far as I’m concerned, including the Lancet letter where Daszak and so many others got together and published that this was obviously a naturally occurring virus, doing everything imaginable to skew the scientific medical literature to get people to not consider the possibility of it being a Gain-Of-Function lab-oriented bioweapon.
    Interviewer: And did this research violate any treaties or laws?
    Dr. Fleming: The biological weapons convention treaty is very specific. It states that any bacterial agent, in this case a virus, that does not have a benefit for humanity is a violation of the Biological Weapons Convention Treaty, and it’s important to know that this is a treaty that the United States has signed and ratified. Article 6 of the U.S. constitution states that treaties are the Supreme Law Of The Land. The signing and ratification of the Biological Weapons Convention Treaty, the signing and ratification of the International Covenant Of Civil And Political Rights, the United States participating in the Nuremberg trials in 1947 to establish the Nuremberg Code and how patients should be treated. The Declaration Of Helsinki that the U.S. has committed to for research patients, the American Medical Association Code Of Ethics Of Informed Consent. That anybody violating these have already demonstrated that they not only are[n’t] interested in providing informed consent and patients rights, but if they are violating a treaty they are violating the U.S Constitution and anybody who has taken an oath of office, anybody who has stood there and sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, who then ignores these treaties, funds these treaties, funds violation of these treaties, which was done in this instance, who refuses to allow patients to have informed consent, the International Covenant Of Civil And Political Rights, if you’ve done that, you have violated the U.S. Constitution and if you’ve taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, then you’ve committed treason.

    21m20 Interviewer: When you reached the conclusion that Sars-Cov-2 was a bioweapon released on the planet, what was your reaction?
    Dr. Fleming: Uncomfortable and disappointed. These individuals have presented nothing that suggest that this type of research was something that was of benefit to humanity, and considering the funding of the sources…

    Are the “vaccines” effective? 22m NO
    Dr. Fleming: If you look at the emergency use authorisation documents, you have to ask yourself two questions;

    How many people get sick, and that is this number we talk about “vaccine” efficacy, how many people get sick if they’re “vaccinated” versus how many people get sick if they weren’t vaccinated.
    Why are they’re getting vaccinated? “Vaccine” efficacy is not why they’re getting “vaccinated”. They’re getting vaccinated so they don’t get sick and that is called an absolute risk reduction.
    If you go to the EUA documents for Pfizer, Moderna, Janssen who are approved in the U.S., and you ask that fundamental question; How many people do not get sick?

    For Pfizer, using their data, there is no statistically significant reduction of Covid cases in “vaccinated” people versus unvaccinated. If you look at Moderna, the same thing, no statistical reduction in covid cases for the “vaccinated” versus the unvaccinated. Janssen did something more complex. They looked at results at 2 weeks, 14 days after injection, and 28 days or 4 weeks. If you look at their data 2 weeks after the injection there is a statistical reduction in the number of Covid cases. If you carry out two more weeks, which they did, that difference is gone, so if you want to “vaccinate: people every two weeks, go for it!

    23m30 The “vaccine” doesn’t prevent infection, nor statistically reduce the number of Covid cases or deaths, nor transmission. And that’s what we’re seeing right now. No virus comes in just one flavour, if you will. So Sars-Cov-2 didn’t just come as Wuhan HU1, it had the Alpha, the Beta, the Gamma and the Lambda and the Delta, and all the other variants [Xi], all the different changes. What we’ve done in the past is we’ve made vaccines by taking all the parts of the virus, with all of the variants, and weakening it, and then injecting it into people so that if you saw another version of the virus, or other parts of it, you would have an immune response to it. What we did with these “vaccines”, is we very specifically said, let’s just look at the spike protein at the original one, called Wuhan HU1, and let’s make that genetic code and turn the human cells into a manufacturing plants to make those spike proteins. What did that do? For the people who got “vaccinated”, many of them who did it because they were worried about other people. We need to understand that these people were well intentioned. They were afraid, they were fearful, they didn’t want somebody else to get sick because of them, they didn’t want other family members to get sick, they didn’t want the man or the woman down the street who have cancer or heart disease to get sick, so as good citizens they were told; you need to do this and it will make a difference. But the vaccines don’t prevent you from getting infected or spreading it, so by using this approach we injected this mRNA & DNA into people, for just one type of spike protein, not the rest of the virus, not the nucleocapsid which turns out to be what humans make the best immune response to, not the envelope, not the membrane, and not the other types of spike proteins, ONE TYPE!

    What we see is people getting “vaccinated” with it, and if you track what happened, not only in the United States but around the world, as these “vaccines” has been used, fewer and fewer people have gotten infected with the Wuhan HU1, or if they got infected they were ready for it, but they weren’t ready for the other variants, the Alpha, the Beta, the Delta, the [Xi] Omicron, those they didn’t have an immune response to. So they responded to it rapidly and then when they spread the virus to other people, they spread the ones who weren’t attacked because the immune system wasn’t ready for it. So we’ve done a great job of pressure selecting out this virus to the variants so that we’re spreading and shifting it, and now the spike protein of Omicron is so different than even Delta or Alpha or HU1 that the ability of our immune system to respond to that isn’t there. And we’re seeing more and more people with this variant coming down with symptoms and spreading it to other people. When you ask have the “vaccine” done a good job of reducing this, all you have to do is look at the science, all you have to do is looking at the numbers; Israel “vaccinated” the vast majority of it’s country with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines and their cases of Delta escalated right off the chart as a result, they simply did pressure selection. In the United States we’ve done the same thing. We’ve seen the [Xi] Omicron and Delta variants been pressure selected out by this vaccine program. This has not helped reduce it, it simply shifted the variants and persisted the problem and stressed people and made them afraid.

    27m40 Interviewer: In this case if you look at the data, the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated on an absolute risk reduction standard, was statistically insignificant? Dr. Fleming: The absolute risk reduction is somewhere between 0.8–1.3%.
    Interviewer: And that was known by the FDA and the drug manufacturers before these vaccines were rolled out. Dr. Fleming: What bothers me, I watched these FDA meetings for the EUA, and none of the people on the panel raised the question what’s the absolute risk reduction, which is the goal of actually vaccinating people. I watched the FDA meetings for the booster shoots, and I don’t remember wether it was the Pfizer or Moderna, their head of “vaccine” project said that “T-cell response was unimportant”, but T-cell response is critical! You have B-cells and T-cells which refer to where they come from. The T-cell response, which is called the innate immunity, is critical and it is the first thing that happens to people. The B-cells, and antibody responses occurs several days later. But for the antibody response to occur, the T-cells have to be working and we know from published data, and I provided documents for this, that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines suppress the T-cell response in people that get the vaccines, not only do the count of those cells go down, but the chemicals they produce, Interferon, which simply means it interferes with the production of viruses, and what’s called T-helper 2 cells which are a type of T-cell that is critical to help make the right antibody response, all of that is suppressed in individuals who get these “vaccines”. Listening to people tell me that they’re Mr. Science, or Big Pharma saying that it’s all about the Science, or anybody else saying it’s all about the Science, I’m seeing a tremendous lack of actual science integrity and interrogation of the science because when you go into the EUA documents and you do the science, the interrogation of the data to see if it’s really different, you discover it’s not. The data is very clear, the science is very clear, the vaccines have not done anything to reduce Covid cases or deaths.

    Are the “vaccines” safe? NO 30m15
    Dr. Fleming: Just a fundamental question: If you understand that the spike protein is a Gain-Of-Function bioweapon. Why would you then replicate that same genetic sequence and put it in a “vaccine”? I think most people were under the impression that you get an injection in your muscle, that it stays in your muscle, except that’s not what happens. The studies were very clear. The lipid nanoparticle influenza “vaccine” made by Moderna spread to the brain, the bone marrow, the liver, the spleen, the heart, the kidneys, the intestine, every part of the animals body, it doesn’t stay at the site of injection. These things aren’t directly injected into your cells, they are being injected in the muscle, which has fluid around the cells that drains out to the rest of your body and gets into your bloodstream where it can have very serious consequences. Some of the research that we’ve recently done on Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen “vaccines” and what happens when they are introduced into human blood.

    31m35 When people spread infections back and fourth, they spread around thousands or ten thousand particles while coughing or sneezing on somebody. So that’s the amount that you would get exposed to. With the “vaccines”, those numbers are significantly different–We’re not talking about thousands or tens of thousands, we’re talking about billions in these “vaccines”. Billions of genetic sequences to make spike proteins. For Pfizer & Moderna it’s 13.1 billion. For Janssen and AstraZeneca it’s 50 billion. A virus, to get into your cells, it has to find the ACE2 receptor. These vaccines don’t. The lipid nanoparticle simply merge with your cell membrane, they don’t have to look for an ACE2 receptor to get it. They simply merge with it and release all that genetic sequence in. What we’re seeing with “vaccinated” individuals are healthy people reacting. Why? Because they are not getting exposed to a thousand to a ten thousand virus particles from somebody who coughed or sneezed at them. They’re getting billions. And if they have a functioning healthy body, their immune system is looking at that and is saying; Wow! We have just been massively infected and amount an immune response–That immune response has inflammation and blood clotting. You release chemicals to kill the cells that are infected, that’s why you’re getting a runny nose. And blood clotting to wall off the invader so it can’t get out and can’t get nutrients so it dies. So that inflammation and blood clotting is what your body should do, except you don’t get infected with billions of these viruses. So healthy people are reacting to something that looks like a nuclear bomb went off in their body and they are reacting to it. That’s producing a lot of inflammation, a lot of blood clotting and a lot of adverse events. And what we’re seeing with all the people with adverse events, are all the people that are healthy, younger, responding to what appears to be an overwhelming infection in their body with all the spike proteins, and we’re seeing inflammation, blood clotting, strokes, seizures, heart disease, miscarriages and deaths that we’ve never seen before in the history of mankind for “vaccines” that’ve been made.

    34m40 It doesn’t matter to me wether it’s been 15 000 deaths or 150 000 deaths. If in 1976, 25 deaths was enough to cause people to say, we need to investigate this, and in 2021, if 15,000 deaths isn’t enough, we have a problem. I’ve done animal research for many decades of my life, and there’s a reason for doing it, because you don’t experiment on people, unless you’re nazis.

    *******35m35 CDC data shows more injuries & deaths from these covid “vaccines” than all others combined for the past 30 years. ********

    36m20 If you come into a hospital and if you have an adverse effect for any of the other vaccines there is a code to that, that goes into the computer and that will be tracked through history. These things are called Computerised procedural terminology (CPT). There is no CPT code to enter into a computer system for an adverse event to any of these Sars-Cov-2 vaccines.[=COVER UP FRAUD]
    Interviewer: Even though this is part of a clinical trial, and therefore they have a legal obligation to track events, there is no universal code for physicians to code in an adverse event?
    Dr. Fleming: That’s right. Interviewer: Have we ever seen this before? Dr. Fleming: It’s the first time.
    Interviewer: These vaccines that are available are still part of a clinical trial that lasts until 2023 correct? Dr. Fleming: Yes, it shows on National Clinical Trial site.
    Interviewer: When you’re doing a clinical trial one of the most important things you need to do is to track adverse events I assume? Dr. Fleming: We’re going to look back on this, in 2020 and 2021, and say how many people really had an adverse event of the “vaccines”?

    Are the vaccines bioweapons?37m50 YES
    Interviewer: Have you seen any animal studies released by the current vaccine manufacturers before emergency use authorisation?
    Dr. Fleming: I haven’t seen any animal studies by those corporations before or after they’ve come out. The only animal studies that has been done are by independent scientists who have been asking the questions that these companies should be asking, which is what are the consequences in animals to these “vaccines”?” Interviewer: What has that research uncovered? Dr. Fleming: Independent research has shown there is damage to the brains and other organs caused by these viruses and “vaccines” that are called prion diseases, so you can have Mad Cow Disease or Alzheimer’s in the brain, or Amyloid disease in the heart. The studies done on animals has been very clear and consistent. Prion diseases, inflammation, blood clotting, thrombotic diseases, miscarriages, other health problems and deaths. And none of this [research] has been done by Pfizer, Moderna, Janssen or the other companies.
    Interviewer: This animal research could’ve been done before the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), but we have no record that it was ever done or reported. Dr. Fleming: This animal research should have been done. It violates every treaty and code that we ever had as human beings. There was one instance in time that animal research was abandoned by doing it on people first. And we prosecuted those people in 1947 at the Nuremberg trials. One of the questions we had, “what happens if the “vaccine” gets into your blood?” We looked at Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen, we have looked at the effects that those “vaccines” have on the blood and it’s almost immediate. We’re going to look at 3 examples of slides that we took from 7 different patients and 3 different vaccines, and we looked at samples of blood under the microscope.

    Pfizer vaccine. The nice red colour are red blood cells, they’re able to carry oxygen from the lungs to the body. Next to them are a lot of grey cells. These are still “red blood cells”, though they’re no longer red because they’re no longer able to carry oxygen. Since there’s plenty of oxygen in the air what we’re seeing is an inability of the hemoglobin in those cells to bind to oxygen and they stay this way, after many many minutes of watching them they didn’t turn back or even begin to turn back.

    Moderna vaccine. The exact same thing can be seen in another patient.

    3) Janssen vaccine. Is showing the exact same phenomenon with the loss of hemoglobin to hold oxygen as shown by grey cells next to the bright red cells that are still functioning, that haven’t been damaged by the vaccine.
    Interviewer: If we look at these slides is what we’re seeing is that when you added the “vaccine” to the red blood cells, the red coloration goes away? Dr. Fleming: The red coloration goes away and it stays that way. And it’s not a matter of just adding liquid to it, because we also looked at adding normal saline which dilutes it a little bit, but it doesn’t take the red colour away. The hemoglobin is no longer able to carry oxygen. This means that the hemoglobin molecule has been damaged. Something is happening to the hemoglobin molecule and it doesn’t reverse. The other thing we saw is that the blood begins to clump together. It’s not a matter of time, its not a time phenomenon. This blood was drawn directly from patients, the vaccines gets added, the vaccines touch the red blood cells, the red blood cells turn pale. They’re no longer red. The important thing is not only the oxygen carrying capacity, but the fact that the hemoglobin that picks up oxygen from your lungs, when it’s in your body it takes the carbon dioxide out and takes it back to your lungs. If the hemoglobin is damaged and can’t carry oxygen, that same damage exists and it’s unlikely that it’s even going to be able to carry the carbon dioxide out.
    43m40 Interviewer: What’s the consequence of this depletion of the oxygen carrying capacity of these red blood cells? Dr. Fleming: None of these red blood cells can carry any oxygen into your body. The real question is how much of this is going on in any individual? No amount of these “vaccines” should have damaging effects on red blood cells. This is a tissue level thing, early onset, this is like the animal studies. If you’re going to give a drug to a patient, you need to know that the drug will work, and what consequences there may be. Seriously, this is an easy project to do. You take the “vaccine”, you take human blood, you add it to it, and if anybody can prove to me that what we saw repeatedly is wrong, then go for it, prove me wrong. But you’re not going to because the beautiful thing about science is that we conducted this in more than one site on the planet, in 7 different people with all 3 vaccines, they all have the same devastating effect on the blood.
    Interviewer: You have a working theory or hypothesis why these “vaccines” are causing discolouration and clumping? Dr. Fleming: Yes I do. We’ve known for a long period of time that RNA or DNA when it’s outside of the cell is a prion. Human red blood cells are the only cells in the human body that don’t have a nucleus or ribosomes. All they have is hemoglobin to carry oxygen and carbon dioxide. So red blood cells can’t do anything with genetic code that is entered into it. Lipid nanoparticle would merge with red blood cells. If red blood cells behaved like any other part of the body does outside of the cell that doesn’t have a nucleus or ribosomes, when RNA or DNA comes into contact with it, it acts like a prion and changes protein structure. Hemoglobin is a protein, so it looks to us what is happening is these “vaccines” are releasing the RNA or DNA of the vaccine into the red blood cells, having a prion effect on the hemoglobin molecule, permanently changing the hemoglobin molecule so that it no longer has the same shape or configuration so it can’t find oxygen and it won’t be able to pick up carbon dioxide.

    Interviewer: Are the vaccines re-programming the innate immune system? Dr. Fleming: What we have seen is that 2 of the critical steps for your immune system, interferon, and T-helper 2 cells which are critical for helping to make antibodies, those are all suppressed. T-helper 2 cells has 3 components that need to match up with the B-cells that makes antibodies. Only when these three match up does a signal get sent to your antibody system to make antibodies for a specific type targeting a specific infection and keep memory cells for that. In the absence of the T-helper 2 cells, being produced like they should, that system even though it exists is going to be blunted. 47m34 gain of function Spike protein vaccine = bio weap0n.
    Human & child experimentation abuse.

    49m Interviewer: If you were advising to fight this attack, what would you recommend? Dr. Fleming: When you’re doing something in medicine or science and there is a bad outcome, you stop doing it. We don’t keep repeating the things that cause the problem. All the evidence shows that there is no statistical benefit to using these “vaccines”. The mass “vaccination” has caused pressure selection of these variants. It has produced significant adverse effects in the people that it’s given to. The FDA has admitted during its Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) documents for children, that we won’t know what it does to our children, until we experiment on our children. It’s very clear. These vaccines have done nothing to solve the problem. They need to be stopped. The companies need to held legally accountable. The questions about why all these codes and treaties that we claim that we honour are being abused needs to be addressed. The Gain-Of-Function research needs to be stopped. We need to hold the people accountable that have been responsible for doing this.

    They have violated the Biological Weapons Convention Treaty.
    They have violated the Nuremberg code.
    They have violated the International Covenant Of Civil And Political Rights.
    They have violated the American Medical Association Code of Ethics (which may not be a criminal act, but it is the way I thought we were supposed to practice medicine)
    There comes a time for everybody to be held accountable for things that they do. People make mistakes. I’m human. I know I make mistakes. I’m my own worst critic. 2 decades worth of Gain of Function research, all focused on increasing infectivity of this virus, with consequences that are very clear around the world. We took procedures in 2020-2021 that made no scientific sense. There is no data to show that the quarantining of citizens around the world stop this virus. If there is explain to me why in 2021 this virus is endemic. It didn’t stop it. Physicians abandon the practice of medicine for a variety of reasons. Some of them might have literally thought they were doing the right thing. Many of them were told there was no treatment, and who told them that? Agencies of the Federal Government Run by Fauci & Collins. Those agencies don’t practice medicine. You don’t call them when you go to the hospital. Your physician practices medicine, that’s the person you see that takes care of you. We have interfered with practice of medicine, with physicians feeling like they could practice medicine. For physicians who haven’t bothered to measure treatment outcomes, I encourage them to get the quantified measured data to see wether they work or don’t work. But at least they’re trying something, which is something we always used to always do before we figured it out. I was there when HIV was hit the scenes. We didn’t know what we were doing. So we worked. We winged it. We treated symptoms. 2019 all the things we did in science and medicine was thrown out the windows. We locked down society. We put fear into everybody’s hearts. We told people to quit believing people who might tell you something different. We quit challenging the scientific paradigm. In science we’re always debating. Anybody who thinks physicians and scientists are this jolly group that are constantly agreeing with each other, No! Scientific debate is constantly had. Physicians frequently will talk amongst ourselves and debate what should or shouldn’t be done, but that is a free exchange of ideas, that hasn’t been done.

    The authorities should be looking into why this happened, making sure that people are being taken care of, and it needs to be holding accountable the people who caused this chaos, and mayhem to begin with, and stop it from occurring again. –Dr. Richard Fleming

    https://georgegodley.com/

    • Thanks: skrik
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  35. Under this reconstruction, more than a million Americans have now died from the unintended lethal blowback of our eighty-year-old biowarfare program, a program that has received over \$100 billion in U.S. government funding. Surely such a scenario deserves enormous public attention if there exists even the slightest possibility that it might be correct.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  36. @Ron Unz

    Regarding Ukraine, I’ve just seen that Orban has won massively in Hungary with a campaign that was nationalist, anti-immigration, pro-traditional family, and while confirming a close personal and economic relationship with Putin and Russia.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/war-ukraine-russia-hungary-viktor-orban-election-putin-rcna22721

    • Agree: JR Foley
  37. Charles says:

    In the U.S. and Canada there is evidence that sane people do exist; the truck convoys, and more importantly the support they received (before the authoritarian crackdown), could be cited. Nevertheless, with several generations of people living in immersion in electronic media, Orwell’s “crimethink” prevents people from drawing conclusions. I think it can safely be said that the most ardent conservative, for lack of a better label, will immediately recoil from even the most obvious facts, like gun crime or education outcomes, if the conclusion leads to being labeled “racist”. Marshall McLuhan was correct: the medium is the message.

  38. Age-standardised excess mortality rates over three seasons of Covid-19:

    Surprise, surprise: Sweden is ahead of New Zealand and Denmark – let alone the US.

    Science blogger Orwell 2024 has the numbers:

    https://orwell2024.substack.com/p/age-standardised-mortality-rates?s=r

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  39. anastasia says:

    Ron Unz states that our Intelligence Agencies told the White House in November 2019 that there could be a cataclysmic outbreak of a virus; then, later, the White House states that there was no such advice in November; then later still, Israel states there was such advice in November. Then Ron Unz states that our intelligence agencies state that the first outbreak in Wuhan happened around Oct-early November; later, there is a corrected estimate about the first outbreak that it could not have happened before late December or in December sometime (forget).

    What I have noticed over the years when the culprits engage in some horrible murderous act, like for instance, the assassination of JFK, assassination of Robert Kennedy, 911, and a whole host of other events, there is disinformation that is spread about, and many of the stories leaked, or spread about and become known in the public arena are inconsistent with each other.

    I believe this is done to keep us all off balance where we cannot even argue the facts because the facts given to the public by the various sources are inconsistent with each other, and we have to almost guess which one is correct, or use other facts to determine which is correct, and these other facts being used to determine which is correct, also have to be evaluated because they too are inconsistent with each other. Very difficult to put the pieces of the puzzle together when you have people who deliberately switch the pieces.

    I mean really. Why should Israel come out and so blithely and willingly contradict the announcement by the White House administration that there was no such advice. Look at all the things these governments are able to keep secret when they want to.

    • Replies: @CamFree
  40. More arguements against the CO-19 excess death numbers above from the Economist

    “Hey, what’s the deal with excess deaths, anyway?”

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    https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1932
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    “Mortality addendum”

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1933
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    and

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    “Back to the excess death count – Could it be infants and illegal aliens?”

    https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1938

    Michael Levitt Excess Deaths in the US

    Michael Levitt’s analysis of excess death and Covid-19 mortality – google:

    heatherrenkel.github.io

    go to excess deaths on this site

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  41. jo6pac says:

    I’ll go with what Whitney Webb wrote and you covered I do believe.

  42. Nodwink says:

    A meta-analysis of COVID-19 deaths found the fatality rate most likely to be 0.68%, with an upper limit of 0.82% (the global general fatality rate is around 0.77%). A respiratory illness like this would be dangerous to the very old and very sick, and those such as the morbidly obese. The authors are very much within the scientific orthodoxy on this subject, not “heretics” by any means.

    The claim of 17 milllion to 23 million deaths is laughable, being based once again on models. These same people claimed that COVID-19 would kill 40 million people in six months, which is bizarre for a virus belonging to a family that is largely harmless to people with functioning immune systems. We deserve an explanation for why scientific orthodoxy was overturned in favour of these rather fanciful models.

  43. Jiminy says:

    I do recall that early on as the Chinese scientist were trying to understand what was going on, a chart appeared that showed that the US had an older version of the virus on their shores. It was thought that the virus first appeared in America and then spread to other countries, Australia being one of them. And apparently China had a younger version of the virus there. How then could the virus escape the Chinese lab, yet be in the US before that time of escape.
    When looking at the Australian Bureau of Statistics information up to the 31/7/21, 920 deaths were attributed to covid19. The highest number of deaths occurred in the octogenarian group.
    I wonder if the American people were let down severely by an inept health system that let too many patients die needlessly.

    • Agree: garys3054
  44. The “they rebranded the flu” explanation is the one I think rings most true (no new virus) but the WHY is still very open to interpretation in my opinion. To distract America and make her impotent in the face of global changes that previously would have drawn the US in. Now we sit down and shut up and use fake words like “covid” and say dumb things like “because of covid” to explain why restaurants now no longer have seats for customers to sit down in etc.

  45. Renoman says:

    P.T. Barnum was the great sage of the age. The average human has few concerns beyond a warm bed and a case of beer on Friday, we are a very stupid people.

  46. @RJ Macready

    Agreed. Stupidity doesn’t start at the Rio Grand.

  47. @The Alarmist

    For me the real story is that they seriously degraded multiple societies.

    Spot on, Alarmist!

    That was a good question afterwards too. Maybe I still don’t attribute enough intelligence to the elite Davos/WEF types. (I personally think they’re just rich, egotistical stupid brats.) My take on it is that media and governments of all shapes and sizes around the world really loved that feeling of power they got when “the people” are compliant and stupid enough that they could implement random edicts of all sorts, shutting businesses, telling people when they could leave home, telling them to wear a useless stupid piece of apparel for 2 years, all due to “The Experts say!”

    If the PanicFest and introduction of an experimental vaccine weren’t planned, the situation of yet another new serious virus out of the Orient was taken advantage of extremely well.

    As you wrote, China was a great model for a lot of them. Even Ron Unz here bought into all that.

  48. When important catastrophes happen, it is impossible for the general public to know the truth.

    Wasn’t the vast majority of the American public convinced that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11, and that he had a cache of chemical and germ warfare weapons ready to be launched against the West by long distance rockets?

    That was the conclusion of the American intelligence community (and Secretary of State Colin Powell) whose members had been to University and served in the military, and all that. (But Powell later admitted that he lied.)

    It is entirely plausible that the virus leaked from the Wuhan research facility, but the evidence is lacking, or has not been revealed to the public.

    Trump claims to have evidence of this, but what was it? Given the fact that Trump is a notorious liar, I would want to know the details of what he knew.

    I would want to know the actual names of the workers who were working on this virus or anything similar at Wuhan, and who of them was sick when, and whether any of them were accustomed to frequent the wet market to buy their family groceries. These are simple basic questions that any investigation would want to look at.

    Of course if anybody was actually personally responsible for this virus leaking the research facility and eventually killing millions of people, you would hardly expect them to put their hand up and admit it. It would be human nature for them to conceal their role out of a sense of shame and a fear of the consequences.

    The idea that the virus was secretly invented by Americans and used by rogue operatives to attack China seems a bit far-fetched to me , but if Mr Unz can actually name the rogue operatives and who they worked for, and who was the highest ranked person who authorized this action, then others can further investigate.

    If this is actually the truth, then presumably Mr. Unz is demanding a radical change in the way in which power is exercised in the United States.

    If Unz is hinting that this could have been authorized by Trump or his appointees, then the Republican party could be as dead as the Whigs and Federalists within a generation.

    • Replies: @Charles
    , @garys3054
  49. Tom Welsh says:

    While reading the passages about whether virus came from the WIV or the market, I was strongly reminded of a similar story that I had read in the excellent book “Dissolving Illusions” by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk.

    They explain how the 1916 New York polio epidemic was thought to have caused 23,000 cases and 5,000 deaths through New England and the Middle Atlantic states. The case fatality rate of 25% was far above the rate for “wild” polio of less than 1%.

    “Three miles from the epicentre of the outbreak, Simon Flexner and his associates at the Rockefeller Institute at 63rd Street and York Avenue… had been passaging spinal cord tissue containing poliovirus, from one Rhesus monkey spinal cord to another… It is a remarkable coincidence that a unique neurotropic strain of poliovirus was developed a few miles away from an epidemic caused by a uniquely pathogenic strain of the virus… almost anywhere in New York was within a few streets of a rail link to the Rockefeller Institute”.

    And it’s less than two miles walk to Grand Central Station.

  50. @geokat62

    Thank you so much for this interview, GeoKat! It’s gonna take me another hour or more to wade through what I haven’t already, with some understanding that is. However, this line struck me right away – read it carefully:

    In fact, that Gain-Of-Function research even occurred during the time that it was shut down during the Clinton administration due to concerns by scientists like myself that saw problems with infections getting out from Gain-Of-Function research.

    Early on, Dr. Fleming seems to support the idea of Gain-of-Function research, but this was the very question I’ve had. Early on, he said:

    Right, so Gain-Of-Function is anything you do that changes a naturally occurring biological agent like this virus. The premise of Gain-Of-Function really has a good premise behind it. The original idea is that if you could step ahead of an infectious agent, you could do a good job at providing treatments for people, and knowing when and where it’s going to spread.

    Yeah, but if nobody is doing anything to change these naturally occurring agents, why and when would you ever need to “step ahead”? Ahaaa, so it’s all Bio-warfare research done under the assumption that the other guy will “step ahead”, even if done in joint efforts (like UNC/Wuhan labs) and even if it’s called “Gain-of-Function” research. There’s no difference but the signs at the entrance to the labs.

    • Thanks: geokat62
  51. Thank you Ron Unz, for all your hard work.

  52. According to the Economist, excess deaths worldwide due to Covid may have already reached twenty million, with the U.S. share of that total possibly exceeding 1.3 million.

    Notice the use of the word “MAY” which means it is a guess. Yet, a quick inquiry on Google indicates that the worldwide death toll is 6.1M. Does this mean the error rate is three times ? Covid deaths in the US per the Economist possibly exceeds 1.3M. Again note the word “POSSIBLY”. Yet, since the records in the US are hopefully the most accurate, the official statstics show Covid deaths in the US at 980 K. The Economist is 33 % higher.

    When there are two numbers in play and one is 3 times the other the question becomes which of the two is reliable. Worse yet if these are corrected then the entire house of cards becomes suspect in that the “correction” raises suspicions that ALL numbers are being fudged.

    Yet, even at 20 Million this represents 0.25% (a quarter of one percent) of total world population. The Spanish Flu killed 50M and the world never went through a hullbaloo as it did for Covid. World population at the time was estimated at 1.8 B which means 2.8% of the population perished.

    I would like to see a breakdown of ALL deaths worldwide from all causes especially stroke, cancer, heart attack, auto accidents, STD’s, infected pimples and blackheads, excessive use of Viagara and slips on banana skins and of course Covid. It would certainly be an amusing set of statistics to peruse.

    The logical among us already suspect that official Covid numbers were inflated and flogged to drive and support the accompanying vaccines, masking and continual daily B/S. Why would the authorities use 6M when they could have used 20M ? Why not 60M ?

    Words like “MAY” and “POSSIBLY” are like those “UN-NAMED” sources or “GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO THE PRESS” who drive the drivel on social media.

    We see the same tired process with the Russia/ Ukraine war. According to Yahoo, Ukraine forces have already destroyed the entire Russian Army, demolished the Air Force, overrun all of Russia and have taken Vladivostok on the PAcific Coast. Two articles later Zeensky is toruing NATO with his tin cup begging for arms and a no fly zone.

    MSM has such a sleazy history of screwing with the “facts” that the safest course is to believe nothing. Hence, I consider everything I read about Covid to be bullshit. The whole episode has become quite frankly a bore and a yawn made worse by Fauci and Associates trying desperate to resuscitate this dead horse by flogging it.

    Everyone knows, or they should, that Governments and Politicians are compulsive and habitual liars. The whole Covid drama was a colossal hoax and anyone who believes anything they read about it has to be a hopeless dunce.

  53. A pattern has emerged over the past couple of years:

    Roll out a “new super deadly variant” of Covid in the fall to keep the plebs in fear. And then in the spring, roll out a “new variant that is not as deadly” to keep everyone on the plantation until the fall when the next “new super deadly variant” is rolled out.

    The media is busily trying to roll out the new spring variant story, but no one cares because everyone is fixated on Ukraine.

    Yet another reason that Putin is a hero.

  54. The world has the same banker. The world leaders are all obedient the same banker. The banker is into a great reset that include digital currency and several ID’s to prove obedience. I’m to the point Ron Unz is right about it being a weapon created by US money, but question the “targeting” China. All those videos and reports coming out of China were so convenient to the narrative. Then we have their treatment protocol conveniently becoming the norm. Serious you get oxygen and on your feet for a pneumonia, not knocked out with a tube force down your throat with nary tubes for feeding and fluids. The Chinese protocol is likely what killed the world. They did took a hit, but were good boys by doing their bit in the hard sell of it all. This is all my supposition, but can anyone really rule out the 1 percent is in cahoots on a possible discreet human cull?

    BTW why would the world do war games together in China? Kind of proves that war really is just bad improv theater that does a gory version of that discreet human cull the elite love.

  55. Towey says:
    @obwandiyag

    From my research on vaccines I knew that there was no such things as disease causing viruses.
    The objective from the beginning was to cause a world economic recession to defer the implosion of the debt based financial system with unimaginable consequences that even the bankers can’t predict.
    But I have come to the conclusion that in the long run it would have been better for the charade that we have been living under for the past 300 years to come crashing down. People would finally have realised who the enemy really is.
    The fact UNZ can’t admit this, that I a financially and technology illiterate baby could, goes a long way to destroy his credibility.
    I frequent this site for the opinions of the commentators. I frequently don’t bother reading the columnists, as the comments provide all the information I need.

    • Thanks: Ben the Layabout
    • Replies: @Towey
  56. Sarah says:

    In early 2020, at the very beginning of the epidemic, a French website on Israel and the Islamic threat published an article containing a video in which a French writer declared: “This is an attack against China! ” :

    Later, I noticed that the article and the video had disappeared.

  57. @anastasia

    It should be clear.. they don’t care how many Americans die.

    • Replies: @anastasia
  58. Towey says:
    @The Alarmist

    It was an excuse to defer the implosion of the debt based financial system which almost occurred in September 2019. The banks had lost faith in each other and they needed an excuse to strengthen the dollar, enact legislation and measures for when the SHTF, to euthanise the elderly and weak far from the eyes of relatives and effect the greatest transfer of wealth from the middle class to private corporations in human history.

    • Agree: The Alarmist, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  59. Towey says:
    @Towey

    It should read financially and technologically illiterate baby BOOMER.

  60. Apologies to other posters who have already pointed out this stuff (I hesitate to say “facts”, seeing as how our present dystopian reality is graced with so many “fact checkers” determined to hoover up and extinguish any such counter-narrative info).

    Once again, Mr. Unz is treading perilously close to the truth, but continues to walk on that dogmatic precipice which is separated from reality by a wafer-thin chasm of preconception and denial.

    [MORE]

    In fact, one might accurately say that Mr. Unz is speaking a warped version of the truth, which inevitably falls short of the whole truth.

    Here’s a wee example…

    Total casualties in the Ukraine conflict are probably still in the low tens of thousands, but according to the Economist, excess deaths worldwide due to Covid may have already reached twenty million, with the U.S. share of that total possibly exceeding 1.3 million. If well over a million Americans have died either directly or indirectly from Covid, determining whether the cause was natural or man-made remains an important question to answer.

    Sorry, Dude (can I call you Dude?) – as far as Corona Chan is concerned, you’re still missing the bigger picture. You’re still ignoring a big puzzle piece sitting over there on the corner of your desk, hidden in plain view. You’re still threshing about in the weeds. You’re obstinately insisting on working with an incomplete data set.

    As others keep correctly pointing out, Corona Chan has been just a bump on the highway, no worse than any other seasonal respiratory bug. All-cause mortality, however, has jumped some 40% since after the fake Corona Chan “vaccines” were rolled out. Over 90% of all alleged Corona Chan patients now in hospitals around the world are “fully vaccinated”.

    This is not rocket science. Even a stunned mullet on the river shore would have the cognitive capacity to comprehend the meaning of this information. Why do you persist in so studiously ignoring it?

    As Spock might have said to Captain Kirk in an inspirational moment – “It’s biowarfare, Jim, but not as we know it!”. At least, not as you are prepared to accept it. Yes, the alleged Corona Chan bug has human origins – but so do the fake Corona Chan “vaccines”, and it’s the fake “vaccines” that have been doing all the biological damage to people around the world, not the alleged Corona Chan bug.

    Here’s another item where you appear to willingly suffer cognitive dissonance…

    Under normal circumstances, this shift of a few weeks in timing would be completely unimportant, but the implications become explosive when juxtaposed with another known date that I have repeatedly emphasized in my articles. In April 2020 ABC News reported and Israeli TV soon confirmed that a secret Defense Intelligence Agency report prepared in “the second week of November” had described a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan. Therefore, this DIA report accurately described the Wuhan outbreak weeks before the first resident of China had even become infected, a striking anomaly obviously warranting very serious further investigation.

    … and yet the Corona Chan pandemic rehearsal Event 201 conducted by door-to-door shoe salesman Klaus Schwab on 18 October 2019 and attended by high-profile shakers and movers from across the global corporate and political spectrum, a month before your notorious secret Defense Intelligence Agency report, doesn’t warrant similar attention? Sorry, Dude, but you’re falling short on this one.

    Perhaps you are deliberately overlooking the biowarfare connection to Russia’s intervention in Ukraine, or perhaps you have not had the time and resources to properly investigate the matter. Numerous American biowarfare labs have been secured by Russian forces in Ukraine, and what they have discovered is consistent with your separately developed hypothesis of the military origins of the alleged Corona Chan bug, but it is also consistent with the larger picture that you seem determined to dismiss – namely, the involvement of the Globalists in all of this mischief.



    Video Link

    Perhaps it’s easier for Australians to grasp the biggure picture, seeing as how our experience of juicy Globalist goodness has been rather more intense than for most other countries walking in lockstep around the world these past two years. FWIW, we’re now up to our 4th fake “vaccine” injection being pushed by all levels of government, and the government has already purchased enough fake “vaccine” doses to inject every man, woman, child and baby in Australia no less than 12 times each.

    I’ve been told that German citizens refused to believe what their government was up to until it was all exposed for everyone to see after Exercise WWII. Perhaps that’s in some way analogous to your blind spot for the Globalist agenda.

    But let’s not stray too far from the Ukraine flavour of this post and your article.

    Did you know that the Doherty Institute in Melbourne has been receiving and experimenting on bioweapons materials shipped from those American bioweapons labs recently secured by the Russians in Ukraine? This may not seem relevant to you within the confines of your particular Corona Chan hypothesis, but it has a huge bearing on down-trodden Australians as they increasingly understand the scale of the Globalist schemes to take down their country and the rest of the world – orchestrated in the main by one insignificant door-to-door shoe salesman, no less.



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    And what the Hell, this too…



    Video Link

    Please don’t misunderstand, we all appreciate what you have done for us here at the Unz Review, and we all love you dearly like an eccentric uncle, and we think your enthusiasm for sleuthing these matters is adorable.

    But we also want the very best for you, and think you can do so much better.

    Regardless, you will always have our support. I say – let an old man have his fun.

  61. Good article. Except one sentence: “Wade was not alone in standing by the lab-leak hypothesis”

    The science nerd in me would say, you never “stand by” an hypothesis. They’re always provisional, and if whichever one is yours has you “standing by” it, you’re not doing science.

  62. Rogue elements WITHIN the Trump Administration? Balderdash! The Deep State, which hates the American people in general and Trump in particular, is the likely culprit.

  63. peterike says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Those effects include Long Covid.

    A great deal of what is reported as “long Covid” is in realty vaccine damage. “Long Covid” is the psyop to distract you from what’s really going on. There probably is some small reality of long Covid, just as some flu patients can suffer for years: this is nothing new, either. But mostly it’s a cover story to hide vax damage.

    • Replies: @Biff K
  64. Dumbo says:
    @obwandiyag

    I think it’s one of the first times I agree with Obwandy. 😀 But I agree.

    I wouldn’t mind if the vaccine and masks were voluntary, everyone has the right to feel afraid of whatever they want — I am not much of a hypochondriac or a germaphobe, but others may be. What annoys me is the forcing of this thing on everyone, for literally no reason — there is zero evidence that lockdowns, masks or even vaccine mandates helped at all with this thing, whatever it was. The only thing that stopped the pandemic, paradoxically, was Putin invading the Ukraine…

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @MarkU
  65. Greg S. says:

    Here’s a summary of what I know about “COVID-19:”

    1) “COVID-19” was made in a lab. In particular, the ‘spike-protein’ of SARS-COV-2 appears to be the most novel or most engineered portion of the virus, essentially joined to a SARS-COV-1 body, and containing ‘inserts’ from several other viruses, including HIV, that could not be random.

    2) The sickness pattern of “COVID-19” was not random, and did not match any known spread pattern for a respiratory virus. Some cities/countries where hit hard, while bordering cities/countries had almost nothing. This indicates selective targeting.

    3) Most of the serious illness and death attributed to COVID-19 is actually from the engineered spike protein, which persists in the body after a natural SARS-COV-2 infection is cleared. It is also possible to be ‘poisoned’ with spike proteins alone through aresol, food, water, and skin contact. Therefore the entire medical establishment has been and still is treating SARS-COV-2 in entirely the wrong way, treating a bio-weapon poisoning with anti-flu techniques. Of course, the patients are dying.

    4) The vaccines purported to treat “COVID-19” either contain mRNA or ‘viral-vector’ DNA that co-opt the human body into making the exact same spike protein bioweapon inside the person, where it spreads to every organ and region of the body, including the brain. If you are not thinking “but that’s insane!” right know, there is no hope for you.

    5) Even worse, we do not yet know when, or even if, COVID vaccinated people stop producing spike proteins inside them. Evidence shows that some unlucky people uptake the instructions into their DNA and produce it forever (until they die). Here’s where things get murky as they are several “X” factors of the vaccination program that produce a wide variety of outcomes among experiment participants. Some got saline doses, some got low doses, some got high doses, some people ‘take’ to the mRNA, some people don’t (genetic targeting), etc.

    6) So right now, as you read this, millions of sheeple are milling about this planet acting as little ‘spike protein’ factories, churning out these toxic bioweapons everywhere they go.

    7) These vaccinated people are not only sickening themselves, due to immune system failure from producing poisons inside their bodies, but they are sickening others. It’s almost impossible to distinguish between a “COVID-19 death” and a death caused by vaccination. All official stats and numbers released about this are meaningless. Only all-cause mortality means something, and that happens to be skyrocketing.

    8) This means that as long as these vaccinations are continuing, the “pandemic” will never end, which is precisely the plan.

    9) Taken all together, there is one simple word to describe what is happening:
    Eugenics. The Nazi principles of Eugenics have been revived. The perpetrators of this believe that only two types of humans will survive this: (1) those with superior genetics that will be resistant to the poisonings and accepting of the gene modifications, leaving a new class of humans who can be ‘edited.’ (2) anyone smart enough or rich enough to avoid all this. And smarts alone might not cut it.

  66. The official narrative on Venezuela is that someone other than Maduro is president. Some guy that lives in Miami named Jaun. This fantasy has been effect a full year longer than the official Covid narrative.

  67. anarchyst says:
    @RoatanBill

    albright did not find out that she was jewish until she attained her position in the government.
    In facr, albright espouses the very genocidal tendencies that jews have toward “goy” societies…destroy anything that moves–men, women, children, animals, etc.

  68. @gay troll

    I agree and you didn’t even mention the fraudulent PCR “test”; the foundation for this hoax.

    • Agree: Towey
  69. geokat62 says:
    @Dumbo

    … there is zero evidence that lockdowns, masks or even vaccine mandates helped at all with this thing, whatever it was.

    Here is the final word on the ineffectiveness of masks.

    Important Transcripts Release: James Kitchen Explains…

    https://rumble.com/vyjav9-important-transcripts-release-james-kitchen-explains….html

    Description:

    Michael interviews James Kitchen ( LCC Litigator) about the legal cases we are currently involved in. James has some important transcripts and resources to share with us that you don’t want to miss!

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Incitatus
  70. anarchyst says:
    @Greg S.

    Thank you for your concise treatise on covid and the jabs. This is good information that must be disseminated widely to the masses.
    I must “quibble” with you on one point.
    The concept of “eugenics” was wildly popular in the USA and was exported to Germany, where it received recognition. Eugenics was an American (jewish) “invention”.
    Eugenics was an American “fad” long before it became a German “fad”.
    In fact, there are many American “movers and shakers” that still think eugenics is a good idea, Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates being two eugenics proponents.
    I would also like to point out that anyone who received the “jab” is now a slave as patented DNA resides within their system, the artificial DNA sequence being visible, collecting in the liver.
    The “jabs” are probably a part of the worldwide eugenics program.
    Regards,

    • Replies: @Towey
  71. @Ultrafart the Brave

    I strongly disagree! Ron Unz is not an old man.

    Otherwise, that was yet another excellent comment! (I’ll check out your videos later on.)

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  72. @The Alarmist

    May I suggest that the same folks that did 911 are behind the covid scam.
    911 was and is where the criminal gang that controls the US most clearly showed their hand.
    There is irrefutable visual evidence that the governments story is a lie.

    Therefore, if 911 was a false flag attack, then it is logical to assume that the same criminals or of their ilk are still running things now and are behind this covid fraud, not to mention this contrived hysteria over Ukraine

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  73. Under this reconstruction, more than a million Americans have now died from the unintended lethal blowback

    Here we go again, the “One Gorillion” number that Covid truthers wield like a magic amulet to stun and amaze their interlocutors.

    [MORE]

    What if that number was bullshit? It would kind of take the steam out of Unz’s breathless allegations of “deadly biowarfare” and would perhaps induce some eye-rolling and snarky jokes about the lamest “biowarfare” project ever. He needs there to be 1 million deaths.

    From the Grayzone a few days ago:

    A chaotic jumble of interacting but uncoordinated government policy and messaging – coming from the White House, federal agencies, Congress, and state governors – have driven an over-classification of deaths as being Covid caused. Directives from the public health establishment compelled state governors to halt elective medical procedures, this created a financial crisis for hospitals. [32] Then, Congress responding to that crisis offered an economic lifeline to healthcare providers in the form of generous economic subsidies and bonus payments for any case that could be classified as Covid.

    The Grayzone points out that the rate of agreement among doctors about cause of death is often as low as 50 percent!

    Who’s fact checking these death certs?

    The Grayzone is a leftist publication btw, so no one can say this is Alex Jones conspiracy crap.

  74. @gay troll

    This is rich:

    Ron is an unwitting victim of “American Pravda”.

  75. Agent76 says:

    December 23, 2021 Video: Covid-19 Simulation vs. Covid-19 Reality

    It is also worth noting that the WHO initially adopted a similar acronym (to designate the coronavirus) to that of the John Hopkins Pandemic Event 201 Exercise (nCoV-2019). “…The new virus was initially named 2019-nCoV by WHO.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-covid-19-simulation-vs-covid-19-reality/5765367

    Nov 4, 2019 Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Segment 4, Communications Discussion and Epilogue Video

    Event 201 is a pandemic tabletop exercise hosted by The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. The exercise illustrated the pandemic preparedness efforts needed to diminish the large-scale economic and societal consequences of a severe pandemic.

    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/media

    • LOL: loren
  76. CamFree says:
    @anastasia

    Yep, that’s how the powerful keep their secrets. They run us dizzy piling falsehood on top of falsehood, until we can’t tell a lie from the truth anymore – and eventually we don’t even want to.

  77. NONnon says:

    After 2 years, Unz’s eyes are still shut to the real reason behind COVID—implementing digital IDs and total biometric surveillance. Why does he ignore the nuclear elephant’s foot in the room?

  78. Anyone who actually believes those mortality stats is someone who should be immediately discounted.
    Covid is 99% fake and gay, like everything in the modern jewed world.

    • Replies: @NONnon
  79. NONnon says:
    @Roman

    They’re only comparing 5 years of data. Is that really enough?

  80. Rooster14 says:
    @HammerJack

    I accompanied an older family member to the doctor last week. I was astounded at the sheer number of baby boomers at the office, my god it was the hot place to be! Every one of them, save a couple, wore masks inside and outside of the clinic. Equally shocking to me was how eager they were to book their next appointment and pick up their meds. I also overheard a few conversations talking about how concerned they were with Russia and what we could do to help Ukraine.

    These people are in a continuous shuffle between daytime “news” broadcasts and doctors appointments; they’re walking programmable zombies! It’s not just the elderly either, I see a lot of “woke” women jogging in my area with phones and earbuds in, no doubt listening to whatever the latest feminist liberal trope podcast is out there.

    I’ve always loved my country, but I find myself these days asking what’s there left to love? What’s left to defend?

    • Agree: HammerJack
  81. @Greg S.

    “COVID-19” was made in a lab.

    Good post. Except for the fact that “Sars Cov 2” does not exist in the real world. It exists only on the pages of a patent.

    As you undoubtedly know, there is no test for “Sars Cov 2”. That’s because it doesn’t exist

    There is no “virus”, only a hoax fueled by propaganda and bioweapons.

    https://nofakenews.net/2020/10/10/the-covid-19-virus-does-not-exist/

  82. Dumbo says:
    @Roman

    Thanks. I haven’t looked well at the data, but it doesn’t seem to be a big difference, and also mostly affecting older people in their 70s or older. Again, like a bad flu year.

    Also, data covers only 2020, but the worse appears to have happened in 2021, coincidentally or not as the vaccines were rolled out.

    If the Amish haven’t really vaccinated, then perhaps they would provide a good control group for the effects of vaccination on the general population.

  83. @Greg S.

    Excellent summary; exactly right.

    The only thing I would add is based on this article:

    “The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2”
    https://doi.org/10.1038/s41429-021-00430-5

    In this review article the authors describe twenty (20) mechanisms (each fully cited) by which Ivermectin acts against the SARS-CoV-2 S protein, which is the one that has the engineered furin cleavage site between its S1 and S2 portions.

    I make the claim that it is highly improbable for an antiparasitic like Ivermectin to have such an enormous number of particular actions against a lab-made protein. The review is very clear in stating exactly what these actions are, and they are very specific biochemical reactions/bindings to the S protein.

    The reason I bring this up is a private hypothesis of mine: I claim that the evil shitheads who engineered this (and no, they weren’t rogue elements of any particular adminstration, as many here have pointed out) started with the antidote and engineered the toxin to be deactivated by it.

    Think about it: they would never have dared to risk their precious august fat-assed selves by releasing a toxin to the world (they do have servants, after all, and thus cannot guarantee perfect isolation) unless they had an antidote first, and that antidote had better have an excellent safety profile.

    Ivermectin has exactly that. It is on the list of Essential Medicines of no less than the WHO (for what that’s worth) and it takes its place there alongside penicillin and aspirin, for instance.

    In any case, this is a private hypothesis and has no evidence (as yet) to support it. Yet it very nicely accounts for the glaring fact that the global elite would never endanger themselves for any reason. They would throw their own mothers into the fire, first.

    • Thanks: Greg S.
  84. @gay troll

    It appears that whenever anyone begins their comment with, “So…” we are going to be offered an obese straw man carefully constructed to misrepresent everything the original writer actually wrote.

  85. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zachary Smith

    “the US seems to have been more active in biowar ‘research’ than anyone else in the past half-century or so”

    This is a great point. Imagine an evil-looking depraved Uncle Sam perched atop a tall edifice consisting of bioware labs while a few other world leaders stand around with their one or two tiny labs. Sam is screaming: “IT’S SELF-DEFENSE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL WARWARE!” Sam is holding a giant gun aimed at the other leaders’ heads as well.

    “They cry out in pain as they kick you.” No truer observation was ever made.

  86. NONnon says:
    @Not Important

    According to the NY Times, the CDC admitted they conceal the bulk of their data because they’re afraid it will prove anti-vaxxers correct. Did Ron Unz see that story?

  87. MarkU says:
    @Dumbo

    Curiously, here in the UK Covid has been more or less ignored for months. We have gone an entire winter without mandatory masks or social distancing (except in medical scenarios) It appears to be accepted here that the omicron variant, although highly contagious, is not dangerous enough to worry about. Cases seem to be very high but deaths are minimal, we still see idiots wearing masks here and there but such people will always be amongst us.

  88. HT says:

    Wait til they figure out Covid was actually produced in the Ukraine labs under Fauci’s supervision.

  89. @Mark G.

    I stopped paying for Direct TV five years ago. I put up an antenna and get 10 channels. The two channels I watch the most are Metv and H&I. Five years ago most of the commercials on these two channels were for diet pills, medicare supplement policies and extended warranties for used cars, i.e. bottom of the barrel advertisers that couldn’t afford ads on more mainstream channels.

    Now the vast majority of the ads on these two channels are propaganda for the deep state paid for by nonprofits like the Ad Council. A quick search of the Ad Council’s funding reveals that the majority of its donations come from, you guessed it, government agencies.

    The swamp subsidizes the msm who in turn pushes its propaganda in the nightly “news.” As an added bonus, cushy jobs in the msm are always available to deep state retirees /politicians and their relatives.

    Why worry about making watchable programming and producing serious journalism, when Nielsen Ratings and viewership no longer determine ad revenue. The feds will provide all the funds needed, as long as the news is one sided and all programming is apropriately diverse and woke.

  90. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Thanks for that info Ultra.

    I had the good fortune to meet the Serbian lass Maria Zeee and Simeon Boikov (the Aussie Cossack) at one of the Freedom rallies in Sydney and have a brief chat with them.

    They’re good people and absolute patriots – as is Senator Malcolm Roberts, one of very few politicians in our parliament with any integrity.

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
  91. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:

    There was a cashier in Walmart, that I used to chat with, while she rung up my items, older woman from Southern California. Well for a while she just wasn’t at work anymore and then one day she was back. I asked her about where she had been, and she said she had been really sick and couldn’t breathe, and that she hadn’t been getting much oxygen to her lungs. She said she quit smoking and thought that was the cause of why she had gotten so badly sick and was out for weeks. This was around the beginning of December 2019 I think, and she was sick in November and the whole flu thing was just getting talked about.
    I don’t see her anymore or if she had had Covid. Her bad sickness was well before the lockdown.

  92. Covid-19 does not exist, it has never been isolated, and is the flu renamed to get the people scared into taking the genocide MRNA injections , which is part of the elites depopulation agenda and is a scam and a psyop and is part of the great reset and is the biggest scam in the history of the world.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  93. Escher says:

    Why on earth would the DIA release a report in advance of the Covid outbreak becoming news, and for whose benefit?
    Doesn’t make any sense, especially if this was a hush hush operation known only to the very few people involved in planning and executing it.
    My money is still on the Wuhan lab being the source.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  94. I sent the attached new music video entitled ‘Omicron vs. Godzilla’ to Mr. Unz for publishing on this site. So far no reply (nothing against him). Aside from tackling the narrative, it has some really beautiful vocal arrangements, I figured many of his viewers would appreciate it, here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShKbTd6cc

  95. Nancy says:
    @Bel Darrow

    I’m pretty simple, but wouldn’t Occam’s Razor suggest that flu symptoms were tested with PCR set at 40 Cycle threshold (per WHO’s initial guidelines)… zillions of ‘positive’ resulted… er… the nightly news ‘CASES !!!’ (per new definition of ‘cases’). Add the suppression of early treatment, HCQ, IVR, Vit D, et al, and ‘they’ were off to the races. We know the rest of the story….

  96. TheMoon says:
    @Dumbo

    There were whistleblowers emerging even before summer 2020 describing hospitals labeling car accidents victims and gunshot deaths as “from COVID”. Anyone paying the slightest bit of attention knew that C-19 was no worse than any other moderate cold or flu, and only a threat to the multiple comorbidity crowd and elderly, just like any virus.

    It may have been engineered, but it’s effectiveness as a biological weapon was purely on the propaganda side. Every head cold and flu case became “OMG COVID!”

    I had a petty low opinion of my fellow citizens before the “pandemic”, but it’s well into negative numbers now. The Cabal or whatever you want to call them has won. We’re never getting back to even a semblance of a rational society.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @RestiveUs
    , @The Real World
  97. anon[289] • Disclaimer says:

    20 million.

    That’s 333 Chernobyls. One Chernobyl was enough to precipitate the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    That’s three holocausts, (assuming standard Zionazi tall tales.) One holocaust was enough to destroy Germany in a world war and try or execute its surviving command structure.

    That’s 4,000 911s. One 911 was enough to trigger three wars of twenty years total duration.

    That’s 855 Pearl Harbors. One Pearl Harbor got Japan a Hiroshima and a Nagasaki.

    Clearly, then, if this germ is of artificial origin it justifies nuking a couple thousand US population centers, generations of war for complete annihilation of the US economy and state, trial and capital punishment of any surviving US officials, and the end of the Western bloc.

    Since the evidence shows CIA did it, we’d better get on with it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  98. @AndrewR

    He never said that and is probably is sophisticated enough in his thinking not to believe that is how the world works.

    If Mr. X owns Pepsi, Coca Cola and Virgin Cola the CEOs of all three companies may fight with each other, hate each other – perhaps the CFO of one company will kill the Vice President of another, but at the end of the day Mr. X calls the shots long term. Biden, Schwab and Putin don’t need to work together to push digital ID, they just push it independently.

    Putin supports QR code tyranny, killshots, media censorship and is anti-white Identity, he is no more pro freedom or pro white then Zion Don is. The people at the capstone(the highest level on the pyramid) have a agenda and nothing Putin did got in the way of that. His fight is with a CFO…maybe the CEO, but not the owner. If he gives us the (real) names of the owners of the federal reserve, that would be something because that might actually hurt the capstone, but he won’t, when it really matters controlled opposition will always put a knife in your back or let someone put a knife into your back.

    *I’m sure Putin finds it more that amusing that elements of the Dissident right support him when
    he would put them in a Russian prison for white identity, rollorblade denial, or spreading “misinformation”.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  99. Surely such a scenario deserves enormous public attention if there exists even the slightest possibility that it might be correct.

    The only remedies that come to mind are the Church Committee.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

    And South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_commission

    The last time the US was caught red handed doing this:

    International Scientific Commission for the Facts Concerning Bacterial Warfare in China and Korea

    When the International Red Cross and the World Health Organization ruled out biological warfare, the Chinese government denounced them as being biased by the influence of US, and arranged an investigation by the Soviet-affiliated World Peace Council.[18] The World Peace Council set up the “International Scientific Commission for the Facts Concerning Bacterial Warfare in China and Korea” (ISC). This commission had several distinguished scientists and doctors from France, Italy, Sweden, Brazil and Soviet Union, including renowned British biochemist and sinologist Joseph Needham.

    The commission’s findings included dozens of eyewitnesses, testimonies from doctors, medical samples from the deceased, bomb casings as well as four American Korean War prisoners who confirmed the US use of biological warfare.[19][20][18] On 15 September 1952, the final report was signed, stating that the US was experimenting with biological weapons in Korea.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_biological_warfare_in_the_Korean_War#International_Scientific_Commission

  100. ARepli says:

    Ron’s track record of accurate analysis is not just very weak, it’s effectively non-existent.

    Ron cries ‘listen to my hypothesis’ on one hand then takes a few steps away and brags he’s thinking unthinkable thoughts.

    Ron dues not comprehend the distinction between a hypothesis and a theory, the former being a falsifiable gambit subject to the precepts and structure of the latter: for a hypothesis to work, it has to meaningfully and demonstrably negate some aspect of a corresponding theory, in the form of a reproducible test. What’s missing from Ron’s conjectures are ties to any facts which might be converted into testable conditions to form the basis of for a hypothesis. There’s a crucial difference between experimentations and waverings of the mind to experience. What’s surprising is how much of reality isn’t reproducible. At Unz Review, the word theory means nothing more than I have an idea.

    WRT to incredible ideas: Why does Ron begin with the idea that Trump is behind this conjecture of a biowarfare attack? It’s just as plausible that it was a literal October (2019) surprise to get Trump out of office: knowing that USA is incapable of handling public health, Trump gets hoisted on America’s own-petard. Genius!

    A common refrain is that Covid mortality is a charade, health statistics label every morbidity coincident with Covid as ’caused by Covid’: Why not apply this to Iran too. In this vast plot, we can assume anything: Covid is the perfect cover for assassinating Iranian elites by means that look just like Covid!

    Have I thought enough unthinkable thoughts yet? I’m just doing my best to join the fun!

    The only thing Ron can’t supply is any evidence whatsoever to support his theories (neé hypotheses), where supplying no evidence whatsoever to support wild-ass claims is Ron’s standard operating procedure. The best I can say about Unz Review is that Ron practices a sort of intellectual Stone Soup, where he brings a pot promises to provide a delicious mental meal, if only he weren’t short of every single ingredient. Readers? Anybody?

    What’s dumbfounding is that Ron genuinely believes that screedlings wherein he just makes things up are intellectually legitimated by the self-awareness that he’s making things up… and precise counts of words.

    To justify making things up, Ron applies a perverse logic of the ego according to an Aristotelian template as concocted by a 12-year-old:

    The work of great minds always seems crazy to the uninitiated; I want to be a great mind; therefore the right way to go is to make up crazy stuff.

    This is genuinely self-fulfilling and I’m happy to do my part:

    Readers are calling me crazy, so my work is valid. QED

    Or, to quote Rob Reiner:

    “The new phonebooks are here! The new phonebooks are here! I’m somebody!”

    ASK NOT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY, ASK HAVE I THOUGHT THE UNTHINKABLE?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  101. @Robert Dolan

    Fraudchi is a gob of dog shit. All viruses and germs mutate and adapt, its a natural process of nature. If human beings did not have natural immunity and also adapted to these germs we would all be fucking dead if not from the original virus then from the mutation.

    This is basic logic although both basic and logic are in short supply today the education system being what it is. We are now teaching Kids from JK about sex and CRT rather than thinking.

    The result is that idiots look to the experts for the “truth” but are instead bombarded with lies all day, in the case of Covid that means 24/7 for 2 years pure unadulterated bunk.

    Fraudchi and friends dont give a shit about decency and morality only making more and more money although I have to say where these guys are concerned when is enough going to be enough. Will \$200M net worth make a significant difference to when net worth was \$100M.

    Fraudchi is now 81. He should retire and enjoy his ill gotten gains. His holding on for the sake of more money and power retention is an indication of criminal insanity..

  102. @Desert Fox

    Covid-19 does not exist,

    Simply astonishing that there are still rubes who prattle such nonsense. You’ve been under a rock for quite awhile; it’s probably time to come out now.

    It’s not worth explaining the realities to you (at this very late stage!). Those who purport what you do either come back with comments digging your hole even deeper or disappear in silence.

    NEXT…

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  103. anastasia says:
    @Swaytonious

    Did it ever occur to them that maybe the elites of China did not care either?

  104. Charles says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I for one do want, specifically, a “radical change in the way in which power is exercised in the United States”. However, a return to the founding principles is flatly impossible barring a second American Revolution. The chances of that are zero. The pinnacle of Western man was many generations ago, Western societies are thoroughly corrupt, and the Chinese are ascendant. I don’t like those facts, but they are facts.

  105. @The Real World

    There were 2 million illegals allowed to come in across the southern border and not one had to have the jab, the elites behind this scam know covid does not exist and they want to eliminate the white race, therefor the genocide jab for the proles.

    Covid-19 is part of the great reset and is the biggest scam and psyop in the history of the world.

    • Agree: TheMoon
  106. luis says:

    Dear Mr. Unz,
    i would recommend to contact/interview Geroge Webb. He has been after the biological wapon stroy snce 2017. here is his subtack and website information.
    https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/russia-confirms-much-of-the-george?s=rhttps://www.neighborhoodnewsstudio.com/

    I am sure if you both work together will be able to further this investigation.
    best
    Luis

  107. Pft says:

    People cant really grasp that COVID was essentially a Military Project on the scale of the Manhattan Project. Only this time the enemy was the people of the Western countries to facilitate the WEF Agenda to reduce the population of the Useless Class and reduce consumption/living standards on the way to Net Zero Carbon

    https://pete843.substack.com/p/was-covid-planned?s=w

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  108. Anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:

    I would say there are actually 4 theories:
    1) natural
    2) accidental lab leak
    3) deliberate – bioweapon released by US against China
    4) deliberate – bioweapon released by China in cooperation with the US

    • Replies: @The Real World
  109. Incitatus says:

    “for two years I have been advocating…there is strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the outbreak was the result of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably orchestrated by rogue elements of the Trump Administration.”

    Clinically insane neocon Michael ‘Machiavelli’ Ledeen couldn’t have said it better. Remember all those WMDs?

    Two years hawking rotten fish? Don’t forget space-lasers, pizza-pedafiles, vaccine-Mengeles, face-diapers, ‘hate-us-for-our-freedoms’, etc.

    Maybe you should enlist Rep. Paul Gosar. Expert in conspiracies. Paul says little that’s cogent (all the better for true believers), while writhing as if infected with a bad case of crabs.

    “our elite media”.

    What could be more “elite” that a self-funded website peddling views undisciplined by the marketplace? Augmented by tens of thousands of crackpot archives?

    Libertarian font-of-knowledge lovefest? Or nihilist suicidal propaganda?

    This just in: libertarians (nihilists) love COVID. So many more talking points! So many more opportunities to spread stupid theories and lambast “elites” while being – irony – a top elite!

    Well done, Ron!

    • Replies: @anon
  110. Hatuxka says:

    ‘…two years of its extensive efforts had failed to uncover any such animal carrier.” Actually, Michael Worobey, head of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Arizona found strong evidence that indicates that early patients were specifically connected to a section of the Wuhan market selling raccoon dogs. A story from Nov, 2021. Don’t know if the study cleared peer-review, but his work is notable for showing that the 1918 Flu virus originated in Kansas. Search for his presentation on this work on YouTube.
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3156757/coronavirus-origin-scientist-says-there-strong-evidence-pointing

    Also, with all this mention of gain-of-function research being done in Wuhan, why is it ignored that the earliest controversy over this kind of research (that predates any known work on this in Wuhan is the Coronavirus gain-of-function research done at the University of North Carolina, cleared as an exception by Fauci to continue despite a moratorium declared on such work. https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985#change-history

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  111. @The Alarmist

    Is the Great Reset a real thing?

    I like to think of it as an enormous PR coup of the Davos/ WEF/Bilderberg crow. By now they might even think that their PR success has grown too big.

    All they intended was to counterbalance the Great Replacement (Grand Remplacement) meme by modeling it a bit so that it looks almost alike but means something completely different. –
    So: What they achieved was basically a meme-theft; or a meme neutralization. – At best: A slogan-rebranding. The Great Replacement vanished from the public sphere and the much more harmless Great Reset and the Greta Replacement took its palce. – And they succeeded in this regard big style. It seems to me, that their PR-victory is so big, that people don’t even get what it was really about.

    [MORE]

    Part two of this idea is: To make the lifestyle of the highly mobile functional elite and their professional assistants look more attractive – and less confrontational: See: We’re just circling the globe and are the human capital that is necessary to steer global progress, which is the greatest producer of public wellbeeing that ever there was on earth (for a troughout non-cynical look at the details of the real world progress under the imperatives of rationality (Jürgen Habermas again), see Steven Pinker’s books Rationality and Enlightrenment Now!.

    And we don’t even bother to get rich in this process because what really counts for us is to keep progress on the right track. – An order of almost Franciscan frugility and ascetism (you’ll own nothing – Klaus Schwab)…only interested in the greater good of the Wellbeing of – – – here is soemthing new too: Not the wellbeing of nations any longer, but what counts now is: The wellbeing of – – – – –simply everybody – – – and not only that but also = the wellbeing of – and that’s new too the sotted owls and toads and the arthritic rhinos and the elefants down to the leaves of grass and – – – – the algae and the plaits ‘n’ stuff … – the climate not to forget…

    What Steven Pinker doesn’t quite understand is that global progress seen from the perspective of many locals / local commnunities is imperialist too via the colonization of the everyday world (the lifeworld) of regular folks (Jürgen Habermas). 

    David Goodhart elaboratedon this specific  structural blind spot of the globalist liberal elite in The The Road to Somewhere – not least in the Brexit-context (dominic Cummins understood this aspect of the Brexit perfectly well).

    Dvid Goodhart highlights the epic fights between the mobile steering capacity class (= the Anywheres) here and the Somewheres there, who can’t run away from the fallout, so to speak, of globalisation – aka: Tensions with immigrants; cultural and economic changes plus cultural changes that tend to devalue everything traditional life forms (including being white and – religious / Christian). –

    – The Davos crowd is rational = unsentimental, when it comes to the costs of globalization and looks at them as something that is just experienced as a loss by the unenlightened local baskests of deplorable Trump – and Brexit-voters, but which is in reality just progress aand brings lots of benfits for – the globe in its entirety.

    David Goodhart and historian Neil Ferguson are the two british intellectuals who get this problem. As did Guillaume Durocher (here at the Unz Review too) and Chrisophe Guilluy (La France Periphérique) et. al. (Eric Zemmour) of the Yellow Vest supporters in France and Michael Klonovsky (see his splendid online diary acta diurna) in Germany.

    https://www.klonovsky.de/acta-diurna/

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  112. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    Incitatus is very touchy about the evident crime against humanity and peace formally charged by the governments of Russia, China, and Iran. It agitated him to the point that he had to say CIA’s magic word, conspiracy, as specified in memo 1035-960.

    Maybe it’s the thought that this can only end with a nuclear war and a tribunal at Khabarovsk for the fat & homely Mrs. Incitatus and her ill-favored brood. I love the smell of parasites dancing on the frying pan.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  113. @Dieter Kief

    Just in: 2/3 of the Hungarian Somewheres voted for Victor Orban – his victory is theirs et vice versa. And the Anywheres in Bruxelles and Washington (and Steven Pinker, I guess) form the complaining chorus one more time. – Brexit and Trump redivivus.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  114. Thim says:

    The vaccines are the disease. The Covid 19 was created to justify the vaccine. And the mass die off is just beginning.

    I support Robert Kennedy Jr. For President.

  115. AndrewR says:
    @WizardWhoKnocks

    Politics makes strange bedfellows. I don’t know what you want me to say. The Russian government never hurt me. My government does daily.

    • Replies: @WizardWhoKnocks
  116. @Towey

    Those are all side effects. The purpose was for the ones in power to continue hanging on by their fingernails.

    To quote Chief Engineer Scottie, she can’t take much more of this Captain.

    • Replies: @acementhead
  117. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Oops. Maybe everyone diagnosed with Covid is quickly vaxxed.

  118. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:

    @Ron Unz

    Good breakdown on why Covid cannot be natural.

    https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/molecular-evidence-for-covid-19s?s=r

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  119. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Incitatus

    I used to buy and sell on Ebay years ago. I was pretty much eclectic in my buying and selling, old pictures and photo albums, books, rugs, old mahjong sets, and pretty much anything yard sale. I would even bargain at a thrift store for a lower price. This was a long time ago before EBAY and others really took off. So one night I was scouring the pages of old photos to look at prices, when I started to come across all these pages of “old photos” with captions like “look young boys” or “look young men” etc… So I thought that was strange. There were lots of them. How could there be so many pictures from the 1800’s with this type of content. When I looked at the buying and selling it seemed that the same people were buying and selling these photos. So I made a comment about it, or two. People started to respond that it was just art. Art, are they old photos or someones art?
    My life changed from here, after noticing the art. I didn’t think it was art, something was a bit strange about it.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  120. Don’t miss the forest for the trees, Ron.

    Covid, Ukraine, the truth doesn’t matter much in the end.

    What the Elites really want is your bank account.

    https://thomashuxley.substack.com/p/your-bank-account-and-the-satanic?s=w

  121. @Achmed E. Newman

    I strongly disagree! Ron Unz is not an old man.

    … he is to all of us teeny-boppers (or teeny-bopper wannabes).

  122. Ron Unz can ignore the evidence which doesn’t fit his narrative but truth might be late but will prevail at the end. Can’t believe he is still rehashing the same debunked theory after 2 years. He jumped to conclusion when there was not enough data. We already have an overwhelming preponderance of scientific evidence that suggest the virus didn’t arise from China.

    It is just that people don’t want to see it.

    https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/12/e1004/6012472

    https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27W1J2#:~:text=The%20Italian%20researchers’%20findings%2C%20published,coronavirus%20antibodies%20well%20before%20February.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  123. dalyia says:

    Just because it didn’t go to China first, doesn’t mean China didn’t dump it on us before it blew back.
    Personally I would look more middle eastern for it’s origin and US and Europe as it’s target. I would guess that the virus had hit the US at least 6-9 months before the news started to talk about it hitting China. In other words, it was here and in Europe before Asia.

    • Agree: garys3054
  124. @obwandiyag

    Great news. Thanks, and welcome aboard. I hope you stick around.

  125. Truth says:
    @gay troll

    Now here’s more Andrew Anglin to convince you that Russia isn’t owned by the same globalist yahoos running this COVID op.

    NOOOOO! Vladdy is your friend, he wants to go bowling with you and come over and teach your son cool Judo moves in your basement!

  126. Covid is a disease of the aged. The median age of death was 83, last I checked. The CDC estimates that only one in four Covid infections are detected and reported: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html There have been 81,851,895 reported Covid cases in the US (worldometers.info), so about 327 million Americans have been infected with Covid, out of 334,400,597 or 97.9%– within the error range of EVERYONE in the US. There have been about 1 million Covid deaths or about 0.3% dead after two years. 16.5% of Americans are over age 65, the main Covid target population; so if the only population involved, about 1 in 50 Elderly have died from Covid.
    While the US has pushed the mistaken and bad idea that ANYONE can catch Covid and die (and thus need the vaccine), only old people and a small number of sick people with limited immune systems benefit from “leaky” Covid vaccines. Healthy younger people may rarely have serious Covid symptoms, but with minimum early health care (such as glucocorticoids– verboten the first four months in the US– and anti-clotting agents in specific cases, even with just minimal supportive care (Oxygen)), almost none should die.
    To argue that there is a major difference in serious cases 8 miles apart between a virology lab and a wet market somehow PROVING that this means SARS-CoV2 popped out of an animal in the market is frankly asinine.
    You will never see old people (SENIOR people) working at the bench in labs in Asia (as in the US the senior scientists are bureaucrats who inhabit offices, generally far away from labs), yet the markets are full of old Asian women, often a major part of their daily social life. As with nursing homes in Western countries, serious cases of Covid would be expected in the Elderly ‘social butterflies’; they are the Vulnerable. Possibly mild flu-like Covid cases in the young and healthy were ignored both associated with the lab, market and region.

    The best evidence that SARS-CoV2 originated in a lab is two pronged. At the very start, Kristian Andersen (and others) notified Fauci that the virus looked “engineered”. This led to a frantic teleconference meeting, and several published letters in major journals and e-mails (repeated on a similar theme between Collins and Fauci), establishing an official narrative that the virus was entirely natural, not connected to gain-of-function funding, and independent of all the bat coronavirus lab work, particularly in Wuhan. And officially squashed the viral lab leak as censored “conspiracy theory”.
    Generally there are no such detailed, intense coverups in science unless there is something to hide. These virologists by their actions (and even Redfield of the CDC) believed the virus had escaped from a lab, likely Wuhan, by proximity.
    The “engineering” of the virus was evident on sequences of both the spike protein which appeared optimized to humans (unheard of in a jump from an animal) but most obvious in the furin cleavage site (which probably was added to a precursor “benign” virus to make the virus much easier to grow in human cell culture.) SARS-CoV2 was unique among beta coronaviruses from its clade/group of 50 or so characterized viral sequences in having this furin cleavage site (right where it would be most active for increased infection/ growth). The two back-to-back arginine codon sequences were characteristic of human not coronaviruse codons (another arginine codon was added to the same furin cleavage site in the delta variant, but I never found if that third site was also “human-like”; but adding another basic amino acid no doubt contributed to furin cleavage and delta’s increased infectivity).

    After evidence was buried for over a year, we will never know 100% that the virus was man made, and have no provenance of lab(s) involved. Speculation is futile without any data to support or knock down hypotheses.

  127. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    While you’re at it, look at deaths from flu in bad years. Curiously, there were no flu deaths at all – zero – last year. Hmm…

  128. dalyia says:
    @michael888

    You must be joking. A flu would not travel that fast over oceans. By the time the news gets to know about most stories like this, months would have gone by. No one has looked to see how many flu deaths or even flu symptoms and no deaths in the US or Europe looked like COVID before COVID was COVID. It was already here for some time before anyone said anything.

    • Replies: @michael888
  129. RestiveUs says:
    @TheMoon

    True, that! The flawed testing and accounting rendered most of the “statistics” meaningless.

  130. @michael888

    Covid is a disease of the aged? Really? Can you refer me to the statistics comparing the death rate from Covid among 35-year-olds with the death rate from Covid among 95-year-olds?

    • Replies: @Jiminy
    , @michael888
  131. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    does “rogue elements of our own national security apparatus” mean neocons?

    a neocon is an american jew who thinks the only way to stop another holocaust is by total jewish world domination via the US…that is, by assuring another holocaust. sad.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  132. Ron Unz says:
    @Escher

    Why on earth would the DIA release a report in advance of the Covid outbreak becoming news, and for whose benefit?
    Doesn’t make any sense, especially if this was a hush hush operation known only to the very few people involved in planning and executing it.

    Sure, it makes perfect sense. The small group of plotters who orchestrated the attack tried to take steps to protect America from any possible blowback, so they organized the Crimson Contagion exercise from January to August 2019 in which state and federal officials practiced their defense against the sudden appearance of a dangerous respiratory virus in China. They also got the DIA to produce a secret report describing the “potentially cataclysmic” disease in Wuhan…just before it actually occurred. Probably none of the people involved in those projects were aware of the biowarfare attack, but they were just manipulated into taking steps against some new natural virus suddenly appearing.

    I’ve repeatedly presented my reconstruction of events in my numerous articles, and here’s a link:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-truth-and-the-whole-truth-on-the-origins-of-covid-19/#summarizing-the-evidence-for-a-biowarfare-attack-and-outlini

  133. Ron Unz says:
    @ARepli

    Why does Ron begin with the idea that Trump is behind this conjecture of a biowarfare attack?

    You really should bother reading my articles. I’ve repeatedly emphasized that Donald Trump was obviously NOT involved in the biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). But the prime suspects would be some of the Deep State Neocons near the top of the Trump Administration.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  134. @Emil Nikola Richard

    “Those are all side effects. The purpose was for the ones in power to continue hanging on by their fingernails.”

    Please.

    Surely the last two years have taught us, as well as them, that our owners are in complete, unchallengeable, control. No fingernails involved. Surely looks that way to me.

    • Agree: The Real World
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  135. Ron Unz says:
    @Hatuxka

    Actually, Michael Worobey, head of ecology and evolutionary biology at the University of Arizona found strong evidence that indicates that early patients were specifically connected to a section of the Wuhan market selling raccoon dogs. A story from Nov, 2021.

    Sure. Worobey is the lead author of one of the new studies I mention, and it covers exactly that issue, so your reference is probably to an earlier version of the same analysis.

    As I briefly mentioned, they did find some suggestive evidence that the outbreak occurred in the market, which contained some of the animals suspected of being the hosts of the Covid virus. But in two years of effort, the Chinese still haven’t located a single animal anywhere having the virus, so I don’t think the evidence of a natural origin is very strong. Meanwhile, I think there’s a great deal of evidence on the other side that the virus was engineered.

  136. Ron Unz says:
    @Respawned Chinaman

    Ron Unz can ignore the evidence which doesn’t fit his narrative but truth might be late but will prevail at the end…We already have an overwhelming preponderance of scientific evidence that suggest the virus didn’t arise from China.

    No. There are very strong indications that all those examples you cite are due to false-positives. In fact, an American testing program demonstrated that Covid false-positives run in excess of 95%. I already covered this at length in one of my articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

  137. Avianthro says:

    How about looking beyond the third possibility, that it was an American bio-weapon released by rogue government agents? Perhaps, even more likely, it was an a-national bio-weapon released by private individuals whose desire it was to attack the Chinese economy, and the Iranian government too. We know that private individuals, people who have no sense of allegiance to any government but are in fact above governments, supranational-governmental) do exist and do manipulate governments, and could every bit as well have the ability to develop a virus like this. Yes, there really could be a SPECTRE-like organization. I would think that only a non-governmental entity would have the absolute lack of concern as to blow-back into other economies (especially their own) as it would not care about their people and would also be positioned to benefit from the political-economic crisis situation, to capitalize on the crisis globally. There would also likely be a Zionist bias in this entity since that would explain the attack on Iran, and so it could very well even be an Israeli bio-weapon more likely than US if it were in fact governmental. (Interesting to note how reactive and quick to vaccinate were the Israelis…anticipating possible blow-back and as ready as possible to take self-protective measures?)

    Well, all that could be, but I still incline to the natural origin theory, and yet I must admit my inclination is a bit shakier now. It does seem reasonable that an extensive survey of the various species of animals sold at the wet market going back to their various places of origins should find the virus among some of them at the places where they are raised-cared-for before they are brought to market. I don’t know how well the Chinese have surveyed the animals and their points of origin. Have they indeed done their homework thoroughly on this? If so, then I’d have to start leaning toward lab origins and a probable bio-weapon developed and released by a nongovernmental entity or an Israeli one.

  138. Ron Unz says:
    @Alvin

    I’ve asked you this question several times before but have always received a less than unequivocal response. Do you still believe that Santa Clara County Public Health Director Sara Cody saved – as you claimed in a March/April 2020 post – millions of lives?

    Not really. China implemented extremely strict lockdowns, quickly stamped out the virus, and did save many, many millions of lives, while allowing normal life in China to be fully restored within a couple of months.

    Unfortunately, the American lockdowns were so haphazard, disorganized, and intermittent, they didn’t work very well. Therefore, the virus kept spreading regardless and the lockdowns were continued off and on for much of two years, while well over a million Americans died.

    So lockdowns might have worked, but they were very poorly implemented in the US.

  139. Ron Unz says:
    @anon

    does “rogue elements of our own national security apparatus” mean neocons?

    Probably. I’d think that the conspirators included some of the Deep State Neocons near the top of the Trump Administration, with Mike Pompeo or John Bolton being the leading suspects.

  140. @Ron Unz

    Unfortunately, the American lockdowns were so haphazard, disorganized, and intermittent, they didn’t work very well. Therefore, the virus kept spreading regardless and the lockdowns were continued off and on for much of two years, while well over a million Americans died.

    So lockdowns might have worked, but they were very poorly implemented in the US.

    Right, Americans were too “muh Libertarian” and Federalist to implement full-on tyranny like the Chinese did. That’s BAD because… what now?

    How’s China doing now? I hear that virus was stamped clean out of existence… for a while. Now, they are quarantining CHILDREN in Shanghai, for God’s sake! Some of the stuff is just outright hilarious. I have a video from my Chinese source (I’ll put it on my blog tomorrow) in which the Chinese health officials are testing EVERYTHING for Kung Flu germs. I shit you not – fish, chickens, little kittens, and even the occasional passing truck on the road.

    Remember, this is the high IQ crowd. As I wrote, Peak Stupidity will be a global, not a local phenomena (maximum). China is not at its peak yet.

  141. Well, I just want to share my experience.

    I finally got infected with covid. It was the omicron variant. I had a sore throat for 3+ days, went to take a test. Got an email telling me I was positive. Self quarantined for 1 month. The symptoms for me were, on and off light fever for 10+ days, occasional diarrhea(needing to hit the crapper twice as often), phlegm(this lasted over 20 days), pretty intense headache on occasion where I needed pain killers(this happened 10+ days after I was tested positive). The weird part, sore throat was gone the moment other symptoms showed up.

    Got it from my sister who was visiting. She has zero symptoms. She got tested after I told her I was positive. Her job requires her to use the subway in NYC, she thinks that is how she got it.

    I would love to read other anon stories on getting covid.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  142. Look. China has been under US biological warfare attack for more than 50 years now.

    How do I know? Because every year for more than the past 50 a disease “comes out of China.”

    So they’re under constant bio-attack, they’re going to over-react.

    Not that I support over-reacting. I hate it.

    I’m just positing a probable reason for China’s draconianismo.

  143. The whole point of the Vexxines is to compromise an individual’s immune system. If any one chooses to not get vexxed, they have the greatest chance of survival provided they have good health. Now, all the Global Organized Crime (GOC) initiated environmental insults, whether GMO foods, toxic pesticides, chem trails, tainted water, toxic air are the previous “pandemics”, if you will are many bricks of tyranny to compromise everyone whether they believe or not the Coronadoom.
    This is the track record: illustrated well by the Zio-banksters of the GOC in their behaviour to make as much of the financialized economy become as liquid as possible… i mean, haow much domestic gambling is really in our best interests?

  144. Jiminy says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Get on the Australian Bureau of Statistics website to see what they released about a month ago. It’s interesting reading.
    It’s funny how things turn out. I had reached a point where every time an article about covid appeared, I’d think can they really write anything else about this? I’d call it burnout.
    Then out of the blue we have the beginnings of a war starting up. Just like that. The yanks then sanction Russia to a point where it looks like many people on the African continent may well starve to death as a result.
    It’s almost as if plan b says to starve them to death if you can’t get them with the virus. As far as I know, Africa never fully embraced the cold.
    But when you think like that you start to sound like a mad conspiracy theorist.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  145. @Anonymous

    I pick #4 and add the EU, Canada, AUS and NZ, at minimum, to the willing list of plandemic perps.

    Many smaller or Third World countries were economically coerced, or promised attractive loans, by the IMF in coordination with the WEF.

    A very tangled and ultra criminal web.

  146. @TheMoon

    Agreed on all. As per the CDC, only 6% of “Covid deaths” had no other known health problems. The majority of those who died *with* Covid averaged four other co-morbidities.

  147. @Astuteobservor II

    I have yet had anyone tell me HOW they know what variant they had.

    Are there tests for specific variants? I haven’t heard that. Did they explain to you how they were going to determine what the variant is when they tested you?

  148. @michael888

    Covid is a disease of the aged. The median age of death was 83, last I checked.

    Yes, it’s a disease otherwise traditionally known as “death”.

    Hence the car fatalities and gunshot victims adding to the ledger.

    And Remdesivir “patients” yielding up the ghost to the dastardly alleged Corona Chan bug (while all the medical staff, ambulance drivers and orderlies pocket a nice cash bonus for every corpse they create).

    What’s not to like?

    Genius, pure genius – a hidden “pandemic” that’s been sitting there all these years, hidden in plain sight, just waiting to be “discovered” and leveraged for the Great Reset.

    And it’s the gift that just keeps on giving – now those fake “vaccines” are adding mightily to the Corona Chan “pandemic”, upwards of 40% increase in all-cause mortality, no less.

    The funeral directors are going to be run off their feet for years to come, maybe even decades.

    90% of 7 billion people is an awful lot of funerals. Here’s an opportunity for enterprising individuals (or governments) to develop methods to streamline the process – liquefaction of dead bodies, perhaps, and feed the remaining population on the resulting juice (creepy Bill would love that idea – in fact, he’s probably already working on it).

  149. @Zachary Smith

    None of those ‘vaccines’ will come to market unless they target the cytotoxic spike protein, or further destroy immune systems as the repeated mRNA gene therapy injections are doing. There is more than just BigPharma greed behind this abomination.

  150. @Jiminy

    Despite CoViD having no appreciable effect in Africa, because, inter alia, of a young population, exposure to sunlight and widespread use of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for other purposes, the ghouls ABSOLUTELY INSIST that they MUST be ‘vaccinated’ with mRNA poisons, of course. The usual hyper-greed or something more sinister? We shall see.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  151. @Mike Tre

    This fits the case quite nicley. A smile in the morning. – Thanks.

  152. @Pft

    No Nett Zero Carbon, ie business as usual, means Near Term Human Extinction through catastrophic climate destabilisation. Take your pick. The genocide of the ‘useless eaters’ to ensure elite survival, or the bellum omnium contra omnes as the planet’s life-support systems collapse (already begun) or World War III. In any case we is fecked, good and proper. How else could Homo destructans end?

  153. @Ron Unz

    If lockdowns would work, then why is it that New Zealand has more Covid excess deaths than Sweden?

    For the numbers – see my comment No. 39 here with a link to Orwell2024’s substack site.

    Age-standardised excess mortality rates over three seasons of Covid-19:
    : Sweden is ahead of New Zealand.

  154. Biff K says:
    @peterike

    “Long Covid” refers to sequelae of a Covid infection – often benign things like a permanently reduced sense of taste. Covid (unlike influenza) is a virus in part, related to Adenovirus (a broad range of respiratory viruses, btw) that some forms produce, in rare individuals, anosmia, which is a permanent loss of one’s sense of smell. This is directly related to the loss of your sense of taste in Covid-19, which occurs acutely in around 40% of cases and usually resolves within a couple days – in a few people it is partially permanent.

    Covid-19 (like a few Adenoviruses which synthetically constitute part of its “gain of function” employed in those labs) can cause myocarditis and/or interstitial pneumonitis. Not just the jab can cause myocarditis – the virus itself can, too! In many it is barely symptomatic, but in some (elderly people in particular) it can result in cardiopulmonary collapse and death. In others, myocarditis, from the virus, may require months to produce any noticeable symptoms such as easy fatigue, or episodic, mild CHF symptoms like orthopnea. And unlike CHF from other causes, it can be transient, here today, resolves on its own, and not evident again for weeks or months after – a characteristic feature of relatively mild carditis, which as we’ve known for a long time, can occur from other causes and, in fact, is often idiopathic, i.e., of unknown origin.

    There is some indication that people who contract the virus multiple times are at a relatively increased risk of developing chronic myocarditis. This would be a manifestation of so-called ‘long covid.”

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @Biff K
  155. So you’re still on the deadly COVID virus kick? What a waste of time. Mate the official data clearly shows it was NEVER very serious. Of course it was artificial, there are two genetic markers within its genome which make any debate on that ridiculous. That was OBVIOUS in January 2020, when I first said it.

    COVID was a mild Flu, with exception of the persistence of the Fauci Fleas, the spike proteins which records show ARE the gain of function subject of a program, costing 1.9 billion \$ for 20 years. The Spike Proteins, not the relatively normal LAB MADE virus, are the bioweapon. It is all proved to be so, and I say proof from a Scientists POV. It is as if you’re in a time warp and never bothered to follow any of the science since this started. Still guessing on the basis of minimal information. Wake the fuck up man!

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  156. Towey says:
    @anarchyst

    The Eugenics movement actually started in England with the work of Darwin, who apparently was a friend of Marx, and Malthus. It was promoted by people like H G Wells and George Bernard Shaw and combatted by Chesterton. It was adopted by the Royal Family, but why the ugliest and stupidest royal family on the face of the earth should think their genes are superior is beyond me.

    Fletcher Prouty, in one of his interviews, states that since the foundation of the USA, its foreign policy was based on the theories of Darwin and Malthus.

  157. @Achmed E. Newman

    You might break the internet with video of Chicoms kung flu testing kittens.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  158. jjh says:

    The world is splitting as Eurasia and Asia are moving to commodity based currencies as the west is collapsing and with it living standards and most wealth. The US and west has already lost this war but the real shooting will start soon as the US like the UK refuses to give up it hegemony and is trying to take us all down with them. They cannot have the Great Reset unless they destroy everything first which includes the depopulation agenda by Geneva and the Rockefeller Institute mentioned by the Russia economist below in the full article at link explaining what is happening with the collapse of the west. “Events Like These Only Happen Once Every Century (Sergey Glazyev)” https://thesaker.is/events-like-these-only-happen-once-every-century-sergey-glazyev/ “The Americans have opened a biological front of war by launching the coronavirus in China” In parallel with the trade war against China, American intelligence services were preparing a war against Russia, since the Anglo-Saxon geopolitical tradition considers our country the main obstacle to establishing world domination of the US and British power and financial elite. “The Americans will not be able to win, just as the British did not succeed in their time” – You know, back in 2015 I wrote the book “The Last World War. The USA is Starting and Losing”, which you mentioned at the beginning of the conversation – everything was thought out and justified there. The United States embarked on a worldwide hybrid war – started with the Orange Revolutions to disrupt regions of the world it did not control – in order to strengthen its position and weaken the position of geopolitical rivals. After the famous Munich speech of President Putin (February 2007 – ed. Note), they realized that they had lost control over Yeltsin’s Russia, and this seriously worried them. In 2008, the financial crisis broke out and it became clear that the transition to a new technological order was beginning, and the old world economic order and the previous management system no longer ensured sustainable economic development. China was now leading the way. more at link

                                                       The Two Paths to Build Back Better
    “If there was ever a time when the West is crumbling from within, and the end gold is to Build Back Better creating a new world order from the ashes, there have been two schools of thought. First, there have been those who believed that creating another Great Depression would achieve that objective just as Roosevelt ended free-market capitalism. The second is that to also reduce the population, we need a war to achieve all the goals and Build Back Better as they did following World War II”
                        Anything less than those two types of events will not achieve their goal.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/russias-demands-v-usa/
    We must understand that the idea that ONLY a war will achieve this goal of a one-world government goes hand-in-hand with this theory that Marxism would have worked if it spread to Europe and the United States – not just Russia and China.

    “In the future it will be about finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old, because as soon as he is over 60-65 years of age, man lives longer than he produces and costs society dearly. Then the weak and then the useless who do nothing for society because there will be more and more of them, and especially finally the stupid ones
    “Euthanasia targeting these groups; euthanasia will have to be an essential instrument of our future societies, in all cases. Of course, we cannot execute people or set up camps. We will get rid of it by making them believe it is for their own good. Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive.”
    “Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to come to a screeching halt rather than gradually deteriorating. We won’t be able to give intelligence tests to millions and millions of people, you can imagine!”
    “We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the big, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.”
    “We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will thus be done by themselves: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own. “slaughter”

  159. @Emil Nikola Richard

    Haha, Emil! Either that or a comprehensive testing program throughout all the strip clubs in China.

    I’ll test it out today. (… for the former, the kittens)

  160. Towey says:

    Why is Ron Unz playing the part of the tailor in the Emperor’s New Clothes? Who is he deceiving and what does he hope to gain?
    There was no pandemic. The world population grew by 1,05% in 2020.
    Australia had 200,000 fewer deaths in 2020 than 2019.
    Ireland’s death rate declined by 4% from 2019 to 2020. In the UK table of the index of the mortality rate for the last 50 years from highest to lowest, 2020 was no 38 on the list despite the deliberate euthanizing of 40,000 old people in care homes far from the eyes of relatives.
    Anyone who is complicit with this hoax is just as guilty of the greatest crime against humanity as those that devised and implemented it.

    • Agree: acementhead
  161. Ron Unz’s “deliberate release by U.S. agents” hypothesis is predicated on the assumption that SARS-COV2 began its world appearance sometime around January of 2020, and that U.S. Intelligence made a fatal mis-step by reporting the pandemic in November 2019, before the pandemic actually occurred.

    His hypothesis would be falsified if it were shown that the Covid-19 pandemic began its spread before November 2019.

    I believe that there is growing evidence. as reported by http://www.drasticresearch.org and elsewhere. on virological, epidemiological, and many other grounds, that the pandemic began in Wuhan, China at least several months before November 2019.

    In light of that evidence, I believe that considerably more attention should be paid to the documented removal of online viral genome databases in mid-September of 2019 by the Wuhan Institute of Virology, in close cooperation with the U.S. CDC and NiH. In light of subsequent events, such as efforts by all three of the above groups to gainsay or deny the ‘lab leak hypothesis’, it would appear likely that the WIV, the CDC, and the NiH had knowledge of the outbreak, long before the pandemic was announced by the WHO and the Peoples’ Republic of China in mid-January of 2020.

    To date, Mr. Unz does not appear to take into consideration the above factors, which would tend to falsify his ‘deliberate release’ hypothesis.

    I therefore suggest that the ‘eyes wide shut’ in this case may be Mr. Unz’.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @acementhead
  162. Mr. Unz —

    Thanks for your careful and original reporting on this critical issue. I have one question: Maybe I somehow missed a discussion of this, but it seems that missing elements in the drama are the responses of other nations than the US and China to the crisis. Wouldn’t the governments of at least a few countries pick up on your reporting, or maybe find some other less documented detective work, and sponsor investigations of possible origins and even, maybe, angrily confront these two superpowers?

    Thanks for your attention —

    WKK

  163. Ron Unz says:
    @Bernard Brandt

    His hypothesis would be falsified if it were shown that the Covid-19 pandemic began its spread before November 2019.

    I believe that there is growing evidence. as reported by http://www.drasticresearch.org and elsewhere. on virological, epidemiological, and many other grounds, that the pandemic began in Wuhan, China at least several months before November 2019…In light of that evidence, I believe that considerably more attention should be paid to the documented removal of online viral genome databases in mid-September of 2019 by the Wuhan Institute of Virology

    No. I’ve looked at the analysis of the Drastic people and haven’t found them at all convincing. Efforts to make a case for an earlier date seem extremely suspicious and probably aimed to explain that huge blunder made when the secret DIA report was revealed, and I discussed it at length in one of my articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#trying-to-disguise-a-smoking-gun

    The removal of the WIV public database was heavily emphasized in several Covid books that I also discussed, and is entirely consistent with the biowarfare scenario I’ve mapped out:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-confronting-covid-crimestop/

    Anyway, the central point of my current column was these new scientific papers by some of the world’s top Covid researchers seem to solidly establish that Patient Zero in Wuhan was infected no earlier than late November, and all our elite MSM outlets have endorsed those conclusions. So I think they close the door to those absurd claims of a huge September epidemic in Wuhan that absolutely no one ever noticed.

  164. @Ron Unz

    I did not expect to convince you, Mr. Unz. We will therefore agree to disagree. My point was to raise the issue for those few in this comment line who are not demonstrating C. Northcote Parkinson’s ‘Law of Triviality’.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  165. It is obvious that the Chinese developed covid as a potential bio-weapon and intentionally let it spread around the world after it leaked. It’s time to stop pretending to believe otherwise.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  166. @Towey

    Towey, I’ve been following your comments and I can’t recall ever doubting any statistics you’ve posted, seeing as you appear to cross your t’s and dot your i’s with your well researched commentary.

    That said, you may have done a typo and added an extra zero by mistake with this comment:

    Australia had 200,000 fewer deaths in 2020 than 2019.

    Now, while it is indeed a fact that the All Cause Mortality figure for Australia in pandemic year 2020 was LESS than the non-pandemic year 2019 (fancy that, a deadly virus that actually prolongs life), the 200,000 figure is off by an order of magnitude IMO.

    I say that because in a typical year in recent decades, the All Cause Mortality figure for Australia is around 220,000 (give or take).
    So, if 200,000 less died in 2020 than in the previous year, that would suggest an over 90% decrease year on year – which is very unlikely, to put it mildly.

    • Thanks: Towey
    • Replies: @Towey
  167. @JulianusRex

    murrika has been consistent in spreading mass killing pandemics around the world in its history. Before Covid, there was Aids. Before that it was “Spanish flu,” which was NOT Spanish at all. Before that, it was smallpox which it spread in North America to kill off the native population there!

  168. From Ripley’s “Believe it or not” files.

    The virus was in Northern Italy months before its detection in Wuhan.
    Maybe it had been carried TO Italy by one of the many Chinese migrant workers in the region – maybe it was carried FROM Italy.
    Suffice to say, Ground Zero is not a done deal.

  169. ‘…During the first year of the epidemic, a belief had taken hold that the virus was natural and this gradually hardened into establishment orthodoxy, with any public skeptics dismissed as “conspiracy theorists.” But then last May, Nicholas Wade, the former science editor of the New York Times, self-published a long article puncturing that propaganda-bubble by mustering the strong evidence that the virus was artificial, probably released by a lab-leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Numerous influential journalists soon seconded his analysis…’

    Aside from the question of the origin of the virus, the above sequence of events suggests just how far we have moved from freedom of speech.

    Obviously, dissent was widespread — witness the prompt endorsement of Wade’s views — yet for over a year, this dissent had been effectively silenced. It was like the fable of the Emperor’s New Clothes. Obviously, many had their doubts about the official story but feared the consequences of expressing them.

    We seem to be going through the same thing with the 2020 election. Just as it was fairly obvious from the start that the virus likely had escaped from the lab in Wuhan, so it was clear the very morning after the election that fraud had occurred.

    Yet in both cases, dissent was promptly marginalized — for as long as was needed to carry out whatever measures were desired by those enforcing the orthodoxy. So only now — just as open discussion of the virus was permitted once it was all more or less in the past — we start seeing stories discussing all the evidence detailing how the 2020 electoral fraud was perpetrated.

    We may be witnessing the development of a new paradigm for suppressing dissent. First, it is not unconditionally blocked. One can usually freely discuss it — but not in the main forums of the internet. You can only speak where few will hear you, and those usually already disaffected — like, say, at Unz Review.

    Second, eventually the cat is let out of the bag — but only long after the events in question have receded safely into the past.

    I look forward to 2024 and interesting revelations appearing in the mainstream about the genesis of the Russo-Ukraine War.

  170. In what I discussed above, we may be witnessing the birth of a new paradigm of repression.

    Dissent isn’t crushed so much as it’s smothered. To take Ron Unz as an example, if you lock him up, you’ve created a martyr. But let him have his forum; just make sure what’s said there can never appear in the mainstream. Now you’ve reduced him to the internet equivalent of the guy yelling in the supermarket parking lot.

    Meanwhile, business can go on as usual.

    • Agree: Mr Anatta
  171. @acementhead

    Surely the last two years have taught us, as well as them, that our owners are in complete, unchallengeable, control. No fingernails involved. Surely looks that way to me.

    I’d say the Criminal Elite are still in control, but things like backing down on vaxx passports for the time being suggest they aren’t as firmly in control as they’d like to be. Starting WW3 with Russia and pushing Net Zero while doing that suggests they are neverthertheless unhinged. They are rewriting laws and further beefing up the police for their next run at the freedom of the common folk.

    The problem with being creatures of Satan is that the Criminal Elite are at once overly hubristic and deeply flawed.

    • Agree: Adam Smith, Mark G.
  172. @AndrewR

    Gaytroll wrote:

    So, according to Ron, some rogue neocon released this very dangerous virus onto Chinese soil, but then it boomeranged back and hit the U.S. and western allies the worst of all, and we are lucky to have such safe and effective vaccines to protect us from the bioweapon. Neither the deep state nor Donald Trump had anything to do with it; it was probably Mike Pompeo flying around on a broomstick. Big pharma certainly had nothing to do with it, and neither did the mass media, and we can all be grateful for their public health leadership during this time of crisis. Sure, the virus was probably developed in a U.S. lab, but pay no attention to the BSL containment breaches documented at Ft. Detrick in 2019, that’s just a conspiracy theory, and you must be a silly anti vaxxer, or else an inept pro China propagandist. Now here’s more Andrew Anglin to convince you that Russia isn’t owned by the same globalist yahoos running this COVID op. Be sure to get fully jabbed, especially if you’re a healthy young male, these things are FDA approved you know.

    You replied:

    Russia tried to play ball with the “globalist yahoos” but it didn’t work. The US has always been intent on regime change (and full vassal status) for Russia. Well, Russia is done trying to humor the US. But you in all your big-brainedness think Biden and Schwab and Putin are all guzzling champagne together right now and laughing at the rubes they fooled.

    You appear to be saying it’s laughable that Biden, Schwab and Putin are working together, and perhaps it is but Gaytroll didn’t say they were, he implied that Russia are owned by the same people that own America. Considering Putin’s support for killshots and QR codes it isn’t really a silly notion.

    Interview 1703 – Riley Waggaman on Russian Myths vs. Russian Reality
    https://www.corbettreport.com/waggaman-ukraine/

    • Thanks: Towey, Liza
  173. @Achmed E. Newman

    What do they do with the kittens if they test positive for the Celebrity Virus?
    Do they kill them? Eat them?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  174. Towey says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thank you for the correction. The problem is that the articles that I referred to have been scrubbed from the internet. The one with the index of mortality for the UK for the last 50 years was taken down soon after it was published. I noted the details when they were published in the first quarter of 2021 but they were taken down pretty soon after they realised the implications. I will see of I can find the originals. Thank you once more.

  175. Towey says:

    To correct a previous post , according to official statistics there were 8,000 fewer deaths in Australia in 2020 than 2019.
    Where was the pandemic?
    https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/deaths-australia/latest-release

  176. @The Real World

    I have yet to find a scientist to explain how they can remove the protein capsid from the RNA strand without damaging the information contained in the RNA. And how they keep the pH environment stable so the nucleic acid doesn’t react. Cytoplasm and nucleoplasm are not the same pH, for example. Crickets. Anyone who talks about virology needs to read the original John Enders “experiment” and then reevaluate their biology worldview.

  177. Cookie says:

    How is excess deaths tracking in U.S?

    Are all-cause deaths returning to five year average?

    When will the “pandemic” be declared over? Or will it ever be over…just lingering in the background until needed?

    And why did the U.S have so high an excess death count? Graphing national average age vs deaths per thousand will show -I suspect- that old people are those that die in greater numbers from a new virus.

    So what was the reason for the panic? To answer that a list of how life was before and what life is like now…well we have a war for starters.

    What we have now…or don’t have anymore will tell the story.

  178. Corvinus says:
    @Ron Unz

    Since the onset of COVID, the two most evident characteristics of the Alt Right campaign of propaganda and (dis)information have been:

    (1) baseless assertions that all government and other Establishment pronouncements must be taken as outright liars -and-


    (2) the Alt Right is the bastion of truth, especially as it intersects with the public’s health and well-being—and that it is infallible.

    Put plainly, the Alt Right, not excluding their self-important subset of peer-reviewed narcissists, have gone full Bolshevik.

  179. @dalyia

    Most Asian countries shut their borders to China IMMEDIATELY, before SARS-CoV2 was characterized. They were hammered by the Swine Flu in 2009 (identified in the US in mid April, declared a public health emergency and impending pandemic by WHO in late April, and finally a pandemic was declared in mid-June (2 months after discovery).
    Covid was declared a pandemic by the WHO in mid March, after “discovery” of the virus in Wuhan in late December/ early January (2 months after discovery).
    The Swine Flu spread quickly through the masked populations in Asia, lots of infections, few deaths, scaring Asian Public Health officials, leading to changes in Public Health Policy with cordon sanitaires at borders, in the hope of controlling dangerous “flu” entry (pooh-poohed by our (mostly AIDS) experts). This bought most Asian countries about a year with low Covid infection rates.
    I do agree with you that Covid was here, particularly on the West Coast months before it officially arrived (and spread quickly through our populations due to our “Hug a Chinaman” approach. After which we pointlessly closed borders.) I was very sick in November 2019 after returning to the US from Singapore in an airplane packed with coughing Chinese (and unlike Asia, there were no health checks at our border entry). There are many epidemiologists trying to figure out if Covid deaths are, for example, mostly “harvesting” of five years of flu victims in one year. A complication: there were more non-Covid deaths in 2021 than expected, and 2022 is being closely watched.
    Asia deals with “flu” epidemics every few years, and have built on American 1960s-1970s Public Health manuals to have a spectacular response to Covid relative to Western countries.

  180. garys3054 says:

    Scientists had already sequenced hundreds of strains of the virus from around the world a few months into the pandemic. When comparing the strains in China with the ones in other countries, those other strains could not have genetically descended from the ones in China. China is not the “seed” for those strains.

    For so many strains to even exist such a short time after the purported outbreak is a clue that the virus was really older than initially believed. One study estimated that it had to have been circulating since the first half of 2019 by looking at its rate of mutation.

    Scientists have actually put together a genealogical tree of the virus in the early months of the pandemic by looking at its mutations. The tree showed that the US was home to all of the strains of the virus, young and old, while the countries of the world possessed only the young strains, including China. What this means is that the virus originated in the US and had some time to mutate into new strains before those new strains escaped into the outside world. There are independent studies that have done the same phylogenetic analysis and came to the same conclusion.

    The virus was circulating in the US at least a half year before the first cases showed up in Wuhan. It would explain the high rates of covid in the US, while China had relatively little of it. It has been circulating in the US for at least a half year before we took any action. With China, the virus entered their country late, and they detected it early and locked down early and got their numbers under control. It would explain the high number of asymptomatic cases at the beginning of the pandemic. They were people who previously caught the virus and recovered from it on their own, and now had natural immunity. It would explain the e-cigarette vaping illness that was all over the news in 2019. Vitamin e oil was not the cause!

  181. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Here is a simple study using 70 years as the cutoff for markedly increased death rate:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7947934/

    Jay Bhattacharya has noted a doubling of death rate for every 7 years of age which would give a 512-fold higher death rate in a 98 year old than in a 35 year old (probably not that simple).
    Others have found the Covid infection fatality rate in an 80 year old to be 1000 to 3000 fold higher than in an 8 year old (this was noted by the Chinese in early 2020). Obesity leads to a 3-fold higher infection fatality rate (but often accompanied by diabetes and hypertension, whose effects are more than additive. Still, age is the most important variable in death from Covid.

    A recent publication intentionally infecting young healthy people with Covid intranasally found that only half became infected with replicating virus: Safety, tolerability and viral kinetics during
    SARS-CoV-2 human challenge in young adults, nature medicine, published on-line March 28, 2022
    None had serious symptoms despite high viral loads. For young, healthy people Covid is a common cold/ mild flu; in many of the elderly, Covid is deadly.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  182. @Rabbitnexus

    Thanks for a breath of fresh air and common sense.

    It’s curious that an intellect of Mr. Unz’ calibre maintains the appearance of not seeing through all this BS, especially as it relates to the activities of the f*cking psycopath Globalists.

    A couple of recent tidbits that might interest those following the unfolding saga…

    [MORE]

    1. Various alternative news sites have been publicising researchers finding all sorts of undeclared scurrilous materials in the fake “vaccines”, including what appear to be living parasites. Turns out those parasites may be what produces an 80% + miscarriage rate among pregnant women (ie, the parasites are in the fake “vaccines” for a reason)…



    Video Link

    2. Klaus Schwab’s f*cking psycopath stooges embedded into governments, corporations and regulatory agencies all over the planet number in the thousands, as is evident from the listing of the Young Global Leaders on the WEF’s own web sites. Now the inventor of the MRNA technology which has been weaponised for the fake “vaccines”, Dr. Robert Malone, is driving a project to reveal exactly who Klaus Scwhab’s f*cking psypath stooges are and where they are entrenched all around the world…

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/dr-robert-malone-v-wef/

    https://rumble.com/vypw9l-there-is-no-medical-emergency-dr.-malone-unloads-the-truth-in-hagerstown.html

    Meanwhile, here in Australia all the psycho Premiers seem to be turning into “Mr. Nice Guy” and backing off the draconian Corona Chan mandates. Funny how this all coincides with imminent state and federal elections. What’s not making any headlines is the Australian Federal Government now pushing the WEF’s Trusted Digital Identity into Australian law, complete with whole sections cut and pasted from the WEF’s own documents.



    Video Link

    … so they may be making out like “Mr. Nice Guy” in the leadup to elections, but this ain’t over by a long shot. Get ready for the Great Reset to push ahead once more, this time with no holds barred, in the months ahead. They’ve got enough fake “vaccines” to inject every man, woman and child in Australia no less than 12 times each, they’re building fake “vaccine” factories in Victoria and Queensland, and they’ve still got to properly christen all those pristine new concentration camps now dotted across the Australian landscape.

    And now just for a bit of variety, we have fuel and food prices literally going through the roof week by week thanks to the orchestrated mayhem surrounding Ukraine. All the better to grind the lemmings down underfoot and drag them into the New World Order.

    It ain’t over until the fat lady sings – and she hasn’t even finished putting on her makeup yet.

    • Agree: Rabbitnexus
    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  183. @Adam Smith

    That 2nd link (Washington Post?) on eating them wanted me to join something to read, but in the first one, that cat on the right looks very much like our guy. Sick stuff, Adam.

  184. garys3054 says:
    @AnonTap

    The test kits at the start of the pandemic being defective, as well as there being a shortage of them, was to delay the initial testing for the virus in the US. It was deliberate because it would have revealed that covid-19 was already prevalent in the US. We chose to feign incompetence.

    There was actually a study done a year ago that tested blood samples from California, Oregon, and Washington taken between Dec 13, 2019 and Dec 16, 2019 and found antibodies for covid-19 in them. Because antibodies take some time to form, for them to be found on those dates and in that quantity means that not only was the virus already circulating in the US months earlier than believed, but that the number of Americans infected was already in the millions.

    It would explain the large number of asymptomatic cases in the US at the beginning of the pandemic. They were of people who were previously infected but recovered on their own, and now had natural immunity.

    The CDC already knew in mid-2019 that there was a lab-made virus on the loose, and that it was one of ours. It’s their job to protect public health by monitoring for emerging natural viruses, as well as act as an early warning signal for any bio-warfare attack by hostile nations. They already knew that one of our own was circulating, and they covered it up. That’s why the US went all-out blaming China when they detected it months later after the virus worked its way across the globe. They immediately knew what it was. They knew instantly, and they didn’t want the world to direct their anger at us for a leaked virus that has killed so many people around the world.

    I don’t think we’ll be able to keep it secret. The phylogenetic tree for covid-19 shows the early ancestors were in the US but not other countries which only had the younger, recent strains.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  185. Sparkon says:
    @Dick O'Toole

    The Spanish Flu killed 50M and the world never went through a hullbaloo as it did for Covid.

    Sure it did. It was a different world 100 years ago, and a different virus – the H1N1 influenza A virus, which is not a coronavirus, but there were “drastic measures,” school and business closures, anti-mask leagues, the whole shebang, except of course there were no vaccines for the 1918 flu.

    Sample headlines:

    “ALL OMAHA QUARANTINED TO PREVENT SPREAD OF THE “FLU”
    The Omaha Evening Bee, Oct. 4, 1918

    “ALL BOULDER HAS BEEN QUARANTINED”
    Boulder Daily Camera, Oct. 7, 1918

    Drastic measures including the closure of all schools, churches, moving picture theaters, and the prohibiting of all public gatherings until further notice were adopted today in an effort to stamp out the epidemic of Spanish influenza which has steadily been gaining headway in Evanston.

    After ravaging the planet for two years, infecting 500 million and causing 50 million fatalities, by 1920, the bird virus was beginning to lose most of its virulence, and gradually more or less petered out and faded away that year, joining the various forms of seasonal flu.

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @SBaker
  186. People are expendable at a cost-Period! “Follow the money,” they say.

  187. garys3054 says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    The REAL conspiracy behind covid-19 is that not only was it already circulating in the US in the summer of 2019 (evali, the e-cigarette vaping illness), but that the CDC knew about it and covered it up (vitamin e thickener was the invented cover story for the cause) because when they analyzed the virus, they discovered that it was one of our own.

    So when China detected their first cases after it had spread to the other side of the globe months later, the US knew instantly what it was. That’s why we went all-out blaming them for it, because we didn’t want to take the blame for a leaked lab virus that has spread around the world causing so much damage. We blamed them, and washed our hands of it.

    That’s the only explanation that accounts for the behavior of the US government. When a dangerous new virus is on the loose, you want to pursue all scientific lines of inquiry. You want to leave no stone unturned. The US response was to cut off all inquiry as to the virus origin however, and demand that all the countries of the world blame China. That is very unscientific! That’s why we were belligerent to the point of intimidation in our blaming of China. That’s why we spread so much propaganda, disinformation, and did so much censorship on the internet and every social media site. We knew if the world were to conduct an impartial, unimpeded scientific investigation, that it would inevitably lead to our doorstep.

    The virus is NOT “100% China’s”. The wet-market theory is bogus.

    The virus is NOT “50% China, 50% US”. The NIH might have funded GOF research in Wuhan with EcoHealth Alliance, but there was never any leak in Wuhan. This story is a hedge, a defensive fall-back, now that the science has shown there is a man-made furin cleavage site in the virus.

    The virus IS “100% US, 0% China”. It escaped from a lab in the US, probably in the first half of 2019. Probably made by Ralph Baric at UNC. Possibly Ft. Detrick was involved somehow. The CDC knew about it and covered it up. After China detected it, we blamed them for it. Real shitty thing to do.

    It’s the reason why Trump held his covid-19 meetings in high-security meeting rooms, the so-called “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility” usually reserved for intelligence and military operations. This is the big secret we’re hiding about covid-19.

  188. @garys3054

    They already knew that one of our own was circulating, and they covered it up. That’s why the US went all-out blaming China when they detected it months later after the virus worked its way across the globe.

    One could infer that there was the early plain-vanilla version (a prototype), that did not cause so much damage, and a later enhanced chimera version from Wuhan, which was a huge success, though likely released accidentally. The Wuhan version was purportedly developed from research at the University of North Carolina, which was derived from bats in China.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  189. @The Real World

    the test site took a sample, sent it to a lab, the email with the results told me what kind of variant I had.

  190. @mulga mumblebrain

    Everybody knows the PCR test does not work. At all. Including the CDC, since they announced the fact.

    So how do we know how many “cases” there are in Africa? Or anywhere for that matter.

    Wait wait don’t tell me . . .

    Could it be . . . computer models !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

  191. @Biff K

    Long covid is the vaccine. Chronic myocarditis is the vaccine. Read up.

  192. I used to be afraid of the virus. Which I believed existed and was dangerous.

    Then I came upon new information and changed my mind.

    What do you do when you come upon new information?

  193. @Ron Unz

    DRASTIC is another Bellingcrap. Agit-prop confected to order.

  194. @Towey

    Malthus MUST be proven correct, eventually. That point is creeping ever closer and closer, as population inexorably rises and agricultural output is affected by ecological collapse. The boy who was really prescient was Samuel Butler, whose essay ‘Darwin among the Machines’, published in 1863, posited that machines were a type of ‘mechanical life’, undergoing constant evolution, much faster than humanity, and would one day, therefore, replace us as the dominant ‘species’ on the planet.

  195. Stephane says:
    @The Real World

    The PCR testing is done by seeking a few specific genetic sequences selected as “specific of virus X”, IIRC 2 or 3 sequences.

    If deemed necessary, the samples can be checked for other sequences, coding for specific mutations and this allow a quick discrimination between strains. For exemple when I was tested positive about two weeks ago, the lab looked for three extra sequences, of wich only one (strongly indicative of Omicron) was detected, the two others (one was Delta-specific, the last I don’t remember) were negative.

    Finally, if the virus in the samples is viable enough, it can be cultivated and fully sequenced for maximum accuracy in strain identification

    • Replies: @The Real World
  196. Sparkon says:
    @geokat62

    There is no transcript at that link. A transcript is a written copy of what people said. If you really think Kitchen or Thiessen have the last word, please post an exact decisive quote from that interview, podcast or whatever it is.

    As for the claims that masks don’t work and there is no proof they ever did, must I remind those ignoramuses of the incident at the Springfield, Missouri Great Clips hair salon back in May and June of 2020?

    Briefly, two stylists reportedly infected with SARS-CoV-2 went into work anyway after one was misdiagnosed with allergies, That stylist interacted with another sans masks before work and infected her. But because of local and Great Clips’ mandates, during business hours, everyone in that salon was wearing a mask, and as far as could be determined from extensive follow-ups from health authories on that case, nobody who responded to the follow-ups got infected with COVID-19, despite being in close proximity to the two infected stylists.

    So, take it slowly if necessary, but here it is again: Stylist A infected stylist B when neither was wearing a mask, but neither stylist A nor stylist B subsequently infected any of the 40-some customers in that store when everyone was wearing a mask.

    That may not be proof in your book, but it’s pretty close to it in mine.

    Above, I commented briefly on the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918-1920, which more or less went away on its own after infecting 500 million and killing 50 million.

    Based on my study and analysis of the Spanish Flu event, I have been anticipating that SARS-CoV-2 will mutate itself into some much less virulent form after a couple of years, and that seems to be the case. Nevertheless, I can assure you that I will continue to wear my mask in public until such time as I determine it is safe and prudent to go without it.

    I find it especially ironic that not long after the U.S. authorities finally got around to sending us U.S. citizens some good masks, most U.S. authorities also began declaring they were no longer needed.

    Meanwhile, here in the USA, COVID-19 cases are rising again in several localities after the premature “masks off!” signals were given by many state and national health authorities, seemingly under the leadership of the Biden Administration.

    So sure, what more proof do you need that masks don’t work?

  197. SBaker says:
    @Jon Chance

    It is interesting to watch Mr. Unz, a financial expert, convince the people here that reporters, politicians, and other media “experts” are really the honest to god people that are in the know about bio-weapons. Why not cite something from a molecular biologist that has published in a refereed science journal rather than a host of self-appointed “experts” on the subject? I haven’t read through all the comments, but it is difficult to find anyone here that knows much about bioweapons, virology, or immunology. It seems that the CCP has escaped all responsibility—who are they funding?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  198. SBaker says:
    @Sparkon

    Thank for your post. 99% of people here have no idea what you are talking about. Were you aware that H1N1 virus was reconstructed by molecular biologists, I think at Univ of Minnesota? They were going to publish the results but were asked not to, for fear that some rogue would use it as a weapon–maybe even some fine upstanding poster. I don’t think anyone here knows the difference between a bio-weapon and a novel pathogen.

  199. @garys3054

    That’s the only explanation that accounts for the behavior of the US government.

    This is not a really great argument. If somebody calls it proof that is the Sherlock Holmes fallacy.

    On the other hand I think you are probably (P~.6) correct. A link or two to sources you like would be appreciated. Especially the latest and greatest analysis of the gene sequences of all the identified significant variants.

  200. geokat62 says:
    @Sparkon

    There is no transcript at that link. A transcript is a written copy of what people said.

    Here are the transcripts of each expert witness:

    https://libertycoalitioncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/July-2021_Expert-Report-of-Expert-Witness-for-the-Complaints-Director_ACAC-v-Dr.-Wall.pdf

    https://libertycoalitioncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/April-2021_Expert-Report-of-Infectious-Disease-Specialist_ACAC-v-Dr.-Wall.pdf

    https://libertycoalitioncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/April-2021_Expert-Report-of-Dr.-Byram-Bridle_ACAC-v-Dr.-Wall.pdf

    https://libertycoalitioncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/April-2021_Expert-Report-of-Dr.-Bao-Dang_ACAC-v-Dr.-Wall.pdf

    https://libertycoalitioncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Transcript-of-testimony-of-Dr.-Walls-4th-Expert-Witness_Jan-2021_ACAC-v-Dr.-Curtis-Wall.pdf

    If you really think Kitchen or Thiessen have the last word, please post an exact decisive quote from that interview, podcast or whatever it is.

    For those who are not inclined to read the hundreds of pages of testimony, this article (Lack of Evidence to Support Claims That Face Masks Stop Virus Transmission, Unsealed Expert Testimonies Say) provides a good synopsis of each witness’ testimony.

    [MORE]

    In testimony last September, the ACAC’s witness identified himself as a public health and family physician.

    In his expert report to the tribunal, the doctor wrote, “There is an overwhelming body of evidence supporting the use of masking in health care settings to reduce COVID transmission.” He also claimed, “There are no known harms associated with masking.”

    In testimony, the doctor acknowledged that he is not a virologist, an immunologist, a respirologist, or a medical microbiologist. He also admitted that for “people with extreme anxiety, [masks] can make you anxious.”

    Mask Mandates’ ‘Social and Political Aspect’

    A medical doctor and respirologist testified as a witness for Wall in November. He said that during the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak in 2003, patients at risk in isolated rooms were the only ones masked, and that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has “a lot of similar properties” to the original SARS.

    He also noted that there is a lack of “firm evidence saying conclusively that masking worked or that they justify the measures that have been in place.” When asked if he believes masks work to stop COVID transmission, he said that “if we go completely by results-based assessment, [then] definitely you can say, no.” Mask mandates for the general public have been driven by “a social and political aspect … causing mass paranoia and fear and panic,” he said.

    In his expert report, the respirologist cited two academic reviews that concluded there is no proof masks help stop the spread of infection when worn by doctors in surgery. In testimony, he explained that masks in the operating room are designed “not for viral transmission protection but really to prevent transmission of very large things like blood and saliva.”

    He said masks can’t stop any aerosol spread of the virus. “It’s like a cloud, so unless you seal any mask airtight, it’s just going to seep around the masks.” The virus that causes COVID-19 measures 0.1 micron in diameter, he said, while according to his expert report, the N95 mask “is rated to block up to 95 percent of particles measuring 0.3 microns or bigger.”

    The respirologist pointed to the DANMASK-19 study, a randomized control trial of people in Denmark who wore masks to prevent COVID-19 and others who did not. “Despite desperately wanting to find objective evidence that masks [work], they could not,” his expert report said. It added that “having the public wear masks, most of which are often wet, dirty, reused, and incorrectly worn, can lead to health problems and inhaling pollutions and secretions over and over.”

    Masking Requirements ‘Alarming’

    An occupational health and safety consultant, who teaches courses on fitting and testing respirators and has clientele in the military, health care, educational institutions, and private industry, also testified for Wall in November. He said he found public masking requirements “beyond strange” and “alarming.”

    The expert said that in normal occupational settings, mask-wearers would be screened “to determine their suitability or ability to be able to wear a mask and stay healthy.” But under COVID, “there’s no screening anymore—it’s just wear one or else, and that’s never happened before.” He said general mask mandates are akin to “Russian roulette” for the public, and especially difficult for those with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, heart conditions, lung conditions, or high blood pressure.

    A “fit test” also “should be paramount [and] primary,” he added. “Without an airtight seal, there’s no way that it can provide any respiratory protection.” He called N95 masks “breathing barriers … [that] were never designed for hour-upon-hour use.”

    He said Alberta work safety standards limit allowable carbon dioxide levels in indoor air to 1,000 parts per million. He said his own testing confirms academic research showing exposure to 5,000 to 10,000 parts per million of carbon dioxide within one minute of wearing an N95 mask, rising to 20,000 after two minutes. Ensuing symptoms could include headache, nausea, dizziness, a lack of coordination, impaired hearing or vision, overheating, or feeling faint.

    According to the expert, the normal oxygen level in the air is 19.5–20.9 percent, and if workers are exposed to a level below 19.5 percent, considered “oxygen-deficient,” “the working operation would have to be immediately shut down and they would have to be evacuated from that space.” They could only return if “equipped with a separate source of clean air delivered via [an] air-breathing apparatus.”

    He said that every person he’s tested, both adults and children, experienced a drop in oxygen level below 19.5 percent within two minutes of wearing a non-medical mask or a medical N95 mask.

    ‘A Bad Flu’

    A professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph, testified for Wall in January. He said the infection fatality rate for COVID-19 at the end of 2020 was approximately 0.15 percent. He likened this 99.85 percent survival rate to “a bad flu season,” but said survival rates for the current Omicron variant were even better.

    The professor said masking is appropriate for the sick but inappropriate for asymptomatic people. He said only a bombardment of the virus could infect someone else to the point of sickness. So unless someone is sick enough to be coughing and sneezing, they probably won’t infect anyone else. He also said most people handle their masks so much it increases the chances of spreading the virus on contact.

    [Fourth Witness]

    Wall’s fourth witness, whose name was redacted, is an infectious disease specialist who has prepared nine expert reports on COVID-19 in five provinces. The reports found that “the difference between symptomatic transmission and asymptomatic transmission was about 25 times,” he said.

    The witness, who is also a medical microbiologist, pointed to a “cluster-randomized trial” of over 300,000 persons in Bangladesh. The study found that villages where everyone wore a surgical mask had an infection rate of 0.67 and villages where no one wore a mask had an infection rate of 0.76 percent.

    Extrapolating these percentages to Alberta’s approximately 1,100 regulated chiropractors means that if every one of them wore a mask for eight weeks, it would only prevent one infection, the witness said.

    https://m.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/lack-of-evidence-to-support-claims-that-face-masks-stop-virus-transmission-experts-tell-tribunal_4367230.html?utm_source=appan2029090

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @michael888
  201. Cking says:

    I comment here on the news that Covid Czar, Jeff Zients announced that “it’s in the ‘national interests’ to vaccinate the world.” The Covid pandemic was announced when there were only 1100 known cases among 6 billion people living outside of China. Immediately, Shutdowns and LockDowns were ordered throughout the world. The elderly left on their own. That strikes me as preknowledge of a manmade disaster offensive and very little is being said of the deadly Covid containment and/or prevention methods even today.

    Too many fully vaxxed people have died and no one is following that science; that the misrepresented vaccine, an mRNA potion, may be a bioweapon. “We are human guinea pigs”; Alarming casualty rates for mRNA warrant urgent action, F. William Engdahl

    I always thought the Covid pandemic was a hoax, conducted congruently with the coup d’etat, ouster of President Trump, the destabilization of the Democratic/Republican Party system, the Great Reset, the failure of the Fed/Wall St./City of London banking and financial system, Global Economic Depression, Climate Change protocols, and the now decades old ‘necessity’ to radically reduce the human population. But I am a modest man.

    Now, there is a flu going around as always, and the most effective and ubiquitous anti-malarial drugs, Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine should have been made available but were condemned immediately. And the human herd followed the ‘science’ as received from the MSM.

    Jon Rappoport was the first journalist to hit the premises of the Covid pandemic hard and relentlessly. Objectifying his case with the mere observation that the Covid virus was never isolated or identified, that the PCR tests were unreliable. He was the first to call out the ‘fake science’ all published on nomorefakenews.com

    Dr. Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research, Canada has just published ‘The Biggest Lie in World History’: there never was a Pandemic, the Data Base is Flawed. The Covid Mandates including the Vaccine are invalid. The PCR tests are flawed and invalid. Yet governments all over the world ordered lockdown measures based on the PCR tests. Main Stream Media disinformation took over the Covid administration, and it prevails today, which is conclusive evidence that a major warfare offensive conducted on humanity exists and yet people will simply not recognize the existence of this evil.

  202. geokat62 says:
    @SBaker

    Why not cite something from a molecular biologist that has published in a refereed science journal rather than a host of self-appointed “experts” on the subject? I haven’t read through all the comments, but it is difficult to find anyone here that knows much about bioweapons, virology, or immunology.

    See comment #35.

    Under the “More” tab, I’ve provided the credentials of a very special man. His name is Dr. Richard Fleming.

    His very impressive resume is 90 pages long. He holds a Medical Doctor, MD degree (specializing in nuclear cardiology and in internal medicine), a JD degree, Doctor of Law, and a Ph.D. in physics. He is an inventor in the medical field and holds patents for his invention. He has authored 400-500 papers. He also serves on editorial and review boards for professional journals.

    Here is the video in which Dr Fleming blows the lid off of SARS‑CoV‑2 plandemic, providing irrefutable evidence that it is a bioweapon and that the “vaccines” themselves are bioweapons… ie, they are definitely NOT safe and effective.

    https://galleries.vidflow.co/awitness

    • Replies: @SBaker
  203. @Sparkon

    Sparkie writes:

    Stylist A infected stylist B when neither was wearing a mask

    Well then, Stylist B should be thankful for that. After all, the sooner we all get natural immunity, the better off we’ll all be.
    Not that it matters, seeing as this ‘Flu-By-Another-Name’ is no worse than seasonal flu in the vast majority of countries*. Most people that have even a partially functioning immune system that got it, didn’t even know they had it as they were asymptomatic.

    Most of the remainder got a sniffle or two, a sore throat, and were as good as gold within a couple of days. I don’t know if I’ve had it or not. I’ve never taken that R.A.T test. (ie: Rapid Asinine Test – seeing as you’d have to be an ASS to take it or submit to the worthless PCR test).

    (*NOTE: I’ll give you leeway if you were living in Iran or some other parts of the world where it appears likely that more lethal variants were seeded deliberately to kill off citizens in a country that threatened Zionist hegemony in the Middle East.
    Or perhaps just to engineer a cull in pursuit of the depopulation agenda. Certainly, if you’re in one of those places, you should take the appropriate precautions).

    As for whether or not the masks work, anyone who’s bothered to look into the objective evidence knows they’re useless.
    Sparkie, rather than relying on what may or may not have happened in a hair salon in what can only be described as the furthest thing removed from a controlled clinical trial, I suggest you educate yourself and read this pdf by the internationally acclaimed Dr Vernon Coleman titled ‘Proof That Face Masks Do More Harm Than Good’:

    https://vernoncoleman.com/harmthangood.pdf

    Unlike your unscholarly example, the pdf posted does not feature opinions that Dr Coleman just conjured up from his imagination. Instead, it features the findings of numerous trials from some of the most prestigious tertiary institutions and medical schools on the planet.

    You also wrote:

    I can assure you that I will continue to wear my mask in public until such time as I determine it is safe and prudent to go without it

    Why begin with ‘I can assure you’ ?
    You don’t have to assure me that you’re a servile non critical thinker that laps up everything you hear from the [Owned-By-Big-Pharma] health bureaucracies and the corrupt MSM about mask wearing/socialist distancing/vaccine efficacy/getting jabbed repetitively with these experimental mRNA gene therapies.
    I am well aware that you’ll keep jabbing away until you get a blood clot or have vaccine induced cardio issues.

    I’m in Australia and I have NEVER worn a mask for even one second in these last two years.
    If every one of us, or at least a critical threshold, just threw down the masks and said … NO, I’m not doing this anymore.
    I will NOT be social distancing, I do not accept these vaxx mandates, I do not accept this Covid tyranny, then the Covid Psyop would have ended a long time ago.

    But because this world is filled with obsequious cowards like you Sparkie, that is the reason, in large measure, why this hoax has gone on as long as it has.

    The sort of person that prostrates himself before his ‘wise government overlords’ and wears his mask everywhere (ie: in his car when alone, in the shower and while brushing his teeth), is the sort of person that snitches on his neighbour for wearing his mask at a slight angle or takes photos of minors in a supermarket for being maskless etc.

    UR readers, I have a video of Sparkie taken by a vigilant dad who noticed that Sparkie was taking photos of his little girl:

    Sparkie, I don’t know for sure if that was you in the video above but, when I imagine what sort or person you are I suspect that it’s someone that talks and acts like Senator Lindsey Graham – someone effeminate and gutless.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Sparkon
  204. Incitatus says:
    @anon

    Thanks for the gobbledygook. Paranoid anger combined with lack of self-esteem?

    Hope this helps (try singing it to yourself):

    [MORE]

    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
    My, oh, my, what a wonderful day
    Plenty of sunshine headin’ my way
    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay!

    Mister Bluebird’s on my shoulder
    It’s the truth, it’s “actch’ll”
    Everything is “satisfactch’ll”

    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
    Wonderful feeling, wonderful day!
    Yes, sir

    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
    My, oh, my, what a wonderful day
    Plenty of sunshine headin’ my way
    Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay!

    No need to thank me.

  205. Incitatus says:
    @anon

    “I used to buy and sell on Ebay years ago…My life changed from here…”

    Now you buy and sell on Unz Review? Who could have predicted it!

  206. @Sparkon

    You also make this foolish statement, in response to the rising number of Covid cases in the U.S:

    So sure, what more proof do you need that masks don’t work?

    Rising cases mean nothing – just more people having caught a cold.
    The metric you should be looking at is ‘rising deaths’.

    Now, on that score, you may well come back with stats that ALLEGE that there are more Covid deaths. And I’m not doubting that they did in fact die …. from ‘something’.

    But let’s dig deeper and try and ascertain exactly what they died of.

    Let’s look at the year 2020, the first full year of Covid in the world. It was also a year when the original [allegedly] more lethal Alpha and Beta strains of Covid were going around.

    Most importantly though, it was year when the WHOLE WORLD WAS UNVAXXED.

    Come 2021, and the vaccine has been administered to large proportions of the citizens of the western world [excepting me and most of my loved ones].

    SURELY then, seeing as the Covid vaxx is claimed to have a high efficacy, the number of dead in 2021 should have dropped precipitously.

    But it did NO SUCH THING. In fact MORE PEOPLE ARE DYING SINCE THE COVID VAXX WAS INTRODUCED THAN BEFORE.

    This is all the more puzzling since 2021 was the year when the MUCH LESS LETHAL Delta and Omicron variants circulated.

    Even if vaxxes hadn’t been introduced, all other things being equal, one would have expected FAR LESS DEATHS IN 2021 than in the year prior.

    Sparkie, you’re no bright spark but I think even you can see what I’m getting at.

    It is CLEAR that the experimental mRNA gene therapies that are masquerading as Covid vaccines are KILLING PEOPLE AT A PRODIGIOUS RATE.

    Statistics from all over the world are showing that the overwhelming majority of those hospitalised with serious Covid or having dropped dead in recent months are ALL FULLY VAXXED.

    I live in Australia and in 2020 we had around 900 [alleged] Covid deaths for the WHOLE country.

    I say ‘alleged’ because over 80% came from just one state – the state of Victoria where Covid tyranny/lockdowns were the most draconian, a state where mask wearing was religiously adopted.
    Victoria’s health bureaucracy used U.S style statistical chicanery and was thus far more likely to record deaths WITH Covid as deaths FROM Covid – hence the inflated number of Covid deaths for that one state.

    Anyway, cutting to the chase. The Covid vaxx rollout was much slower in Australia than in the U.S.
    By mid 2021, the vast majority of Aussies were still unvaxxed.

    In the first 5 or 6 months of 2021, the aggregate Covid mortality for the WHOLE of Australia was ONE.

    No, that’s not one thousand or one hundred thousand but … ONE (1) solitary lonesome individual.
    In this first half of 2021, the vast majority of Australians (outside of the police state of Victoria), were going about their business, wearing NO masks, practising NO socialist distancing, mingling/partying/hugging as before.

    THEN, all of a sudden, hard restrictions came into being, the corrupt Australian MSM went into full scare mongering mode, citizens were traumatised into getting the experimental mRNA gene therapy and …. what do you know …. the CASES went through the roof and the deaths started rising.

    Bottom Line: Prior to the widespread implementation of the Covid ‘vaxxes’ Australia’s death count was very low.
    Since a large majority of Aussies were injected with the clot shots in the latter half of 2021, our Covid mortality has risen SIX-FOLD in the last 10 months.

    Sparkie, you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed but surely even you can work out that THE COVID ‘VACCINATIONS’ themselves are exacerbating mortality.

  207. Sparkon says:
    @geokat62

    I asked you to provide a direct quotation from your referenced material to support your assertion that masks don’t work. Instead, you responded with a shower of PDFs from the N. American version of Siberia known as Canada.

    I took a look at your first PDF, and I had read only to the second page before I found this:

    The vast majority of evidence presented was by credible, academic sources indicating mask use does reduce the rate of transmission in both clinical and laboratory settings.

    Further proof, I suppose, that masks don’t work.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  208. Sparkon says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Rising cases mean nothing – just more people having caught a cold.
    The metric you should be looking at is ‘rising deaths’.

    Not when the virulence of the virus is decreasing, as noted.

    I live in Australia.

    That’s painfully obvious.

    UR readers, I have a video of Sparkie taken by a vigilant dad who noticed that Sparkie was taking photos of his little girl:

    No you don’t you lying SOS.

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  209. @Stephane

    Thank you.
    Some questions, please.
    — Do you know the cycle rate used on your PCR test?
    — Have you been vaxxed? One, two or three jabs?
    — Did you have difficult symptoms with your Covid positivity?

    • Replies: @Stephane
  210. A “For What It’s Worth” item I saw today at Naked Capitalism:

    This is corroborating evidence of a massive program of euthanizing elderly Covid patients in Sweden, some of whom died hideous deaths! Why is there not greater outrage about this? I get people are upset about Ukraine, but a giant crime took place in Sweden, and West is mum!

    https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1510859965950423042?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Also a re-post of a 2020 WSJ article:
    https://www.wric.com/health/pm-swedens-health-officials-misjudged-new-infection-wave/

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  211. @Alvin

    Ron Keeva Unz is an American.

    An American’s very good nature is: Act first, think second.

    So, it is not surprising that, Ron Keeva Unz acted (i.e., has written) by supporting the impulsive acts of another dim-wit American named Sarah Cody without thinking or even trying to understand the true problem at hand.

    Another possible explanation of Ron Keeva Unz’s behavior is: Ron Keeva Unz follows the wind-flow.

    That means, in the beginning the wind was flowing in the direction of total lock-down; so, Ron Keeva Unz followed an American dim-wit named Sarah Cody!

    However, in the end the wind started to flow either in the opposite direction or in the middle upward direction; so, Ron Keeva Unz changed his writings again.

    Ron Keeva Unz is a very good “Wind-Watcher” although no one on earth or elsewhere can see the wind, rather can only feel it.

    [MORE]

    ===============================================
    ===============================================

    ‘It was some twenty years after the end of the Vietnam war that a security conference was held between leading military figures from both America and Vietnam. Following the conference a U.S. Air Force General approached a Vietnamese General.

    The American had been a fighter pilot captain during the conflict, the Vietnamese general had been a Colonel in the N.V.A. The American asked (paraphrasing): “You have to tell me, we knew your Army was continually crossing the Mekong, we flew sorties up and down the river and could never find your bridges.”

    “I know,” said the Vietnamese, “we built them three feet under water.”

    In that instant the American understood why America lost the war. His “Road to Damascus” moment was informed by how the different combatants approached problems.

    Had that been an American problem, how an Army crosses a wide, deep and fast flowing river, they would have solved the problem differently. They would have built a suspension bridge, they would have had bases on either side to protect it. They would have had Bowling alleys and Burger Kings and would have been flying in Bob Hope to entertain the troops. Why? Because they could, when you have resources they become the answer to every problem. The Vietnamese didn’t have resources, so they were resourceful.

    And that, as the American realized, was why the Vietnamese won, and America lost.

    The general may have learned a lesson, but if he told anyone, no one listened. Many of the same mistakes were repeated in Afghanistan, with the same results.

    Resources are not the answer to every problem. As with America’s War On Drugs, War On Crime, War On Poverty, War On Terror, all resources do is obscure the underlying problem and present false, ineffective solutions.’

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  212. ANON[167] • Disclaimer says:

    First what the mainstream media says is 80% lies, 20% half truths. THERE IS NOT AND WAS NEVER ANY 20 MILLION DEATHS FROM THIS SO-CALLED ‘VIRUS’

    There is a global operation followed by each UN/WHO member to enslave and depopulate their populations. Go to look on the WEF and UN websites and look for the ‘great reset’ and ‘agenda 2030’. THEY DON’T HIDE THEIR PLANS, THEY TELL YOU IN YOUR FACE: ‘By 2030 you will be a slave who own nothing” (the only way you will be happy is if they have lobotomized you with fake ‘vaccines’ doses after doses).

    [MORE]

    2/ Yes, of course it has been made in labs, not in a lab but in many labs all around the world. Theu used the USA bio-labs infra because this is the most widespread but this is not a USA only operation. Many countries are involved.

    3/ Most governments are puppet governments. Most scumbag ‘elected’ in the last 5 years are either freemasons, globalist groups members of outright infiltrated agents of the WEF (‘young global leaders’). THIS IS HOW THEY ALL MOVED AT THE SAME TIME AND DID THE EXACT SAME UN-SCIENTIFIC, INSANE AND TOTALITARIAN THING.

    4/ If 500 000 died wordwide of this bio-weapons, it’s the maximum, all the rest are fraudulently reported deaths, murders (in care homes with Midazolam in the UK for example), deaths from the DEATHVAX (another bio-weapon).

    THERE WAS NEVER ANY PANDEMIC, EXCEPT IN THE MEDIA AND IN THE HEADS OF THE PSYCHOTICS.

    5/ As many people say here, the fake ‘CASES’ were created by the FRAUDULENT PCR ‘TEST’ (Its inventor Karry Mullis was clear, it can’t detect any disease). And the since then ‘home tests’ and other BS tools to make the STUPID MASSES believe they are infected.

    THE ONLY PANDEMIC OUT THERE WAS A PANDEMIC OF FEAR AND STUPIDITY AND IT WAS A SUCCESS AS MASSES ARE STUPID AND COWARDLY.

    Now that they have fooled the planet, they are playing the new staged event “war in Ukraine’ to hide what is really going on in the background:

    A- The takeover of all nations constitutions by the criminals of the WHO (one of the perpetrator of the covid crimes) under the guise of a ‘pandemic treaty’
    https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/p/we-must-act-to-stopthetreaty?s=r
    https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/03/02/pfizer-documents-pandemic-treaty-covid-disappears/
    https://drtrozzi.org/2022/03/09/the-who-pandemic-treaty-a-backdoor-to-global-governance/

    B- In the UK, the US and the EU, they are, as we are focused on Ukraine, building the next step of fascism with DIGITAL ID’S, CDBC (digital ‘money’) and once these are in place (by 2023), they will control not only your body integrity but what you can buy, read, listen to or where you can travel to.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mandatory-vaccination-eu-just-went-through-under-radar/5776115
    https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/03/31/uk-gov-digital-identity-launch-april-22/
    https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/03/14/are-you-ready-for-the-digital-dictatorship/#comments

    They, of course are not doing it publicly or asking anyone’s opinion and even less going through a democratic process, votes or anything like that. No it’s been decided by the same criminals behind the FAKE PANDEMIC (WEF, WHO, UN, gates, rothschild, rockefeller and other globalists).

    Last week they even had a ‘world government summit’.

    But everybody is busy with the BULLSHIT skirmishes in Ukraine, so very few know what is really going on.

    And by the way, while people ponder about Ukraine, in fascist shitholes like Italy, a non elected dictator is exterminating and starving his population if they refuse to get injected with the DEATHVAX. Muzzle are still ‘mandatory’, same for the ‘vax passports (modern age yellow badges) and no restriction has been abolished.

    WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE AND THE FIGHT FOR THAT?

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante, Cking
  213. geokat62 says:
    @Sparkon

    Further proof, I suppose, that masks don’t work.

    LOL! That “expert” testimony was from the one and only plaintiff’s witness.

    The key to gaining a better insight into each witness’ testimony was to click on the “More” button in my previous comment.

    [MORE]

    Here’s what was included in the testimony regarding the plaintiff’s one and only witness (a public health and family physician):

    In testimony, the doctor acknowledged that he is not a virologist, an immunologist, a respirologist, or a medical microbiologist. He also admitted that for “people with extreme anxiety, [masks] can make you anxious.”

    Pretty solid testimony, huh? lol

    1. Here’s the gist of the testimony from the defendant’s first expert witness (a medical doctor and respirologist):

    When asked if he believes masks work to stop COVID transmission, he said that “if we go completely by results-based assessment, [then] definitely you can say, no.” Mask mandates for the general public have been driven by “a social and political aspect … causing mass paranoia and fear and panic,” he said.

    In his expert report, the respirologist cited two academic reviews that concluded there is no proof masks help stop the spread of infection when worn by doctors in surgery…

    He said masks can’t stop any aerosol spread of the virus. “It’s like a cloud, so unless you seal any mask airtight, it’s just going to seep around the masks.” …

    The respirologist pointed to the DANMASK-19 study, a randomized control trial of people in Denmark who wore masks to prevent COVID-19 and others who did not. “Despite desperately wanting to find objective evidence that masks [work], they could not,” his expert report said.

    2. The gist of the defendant’s second expert witness (an occupational health and safety consultant):

    He said general mask mandates are akin to “Russian roulette” for the public…

    He said Alberta work safety standards limit allowable carbon dioxide levels in indoor air to 1,000 parts per million. He said his own testing confirms academic research showing exposure to 5,000 to 10,000 parts per million of carbon dioxide within one minute of wearing an N95 mask, rising to 20,000 after two minutes. Ensuing symptoms could include headache, nausea, dizziness, a lack of coordination, impaired hearing or vision, overheating, or feeling faint.

    According to the expert, the normal oxygen level in the air is 19.5–20.9 percent, and if workers are exposed to a level below 19.5 percent, considered “oxygen-deficient,” “the working operation would have to be immediately shut down and they would have to be evacuated from that space.” They could only return if “equipped with a separate source of clean air delivered via [an] air-breathing apparatus.”

    He said that every person he’s tested, both adults and children, experienced a drop in oxygen level below 19.5 percent within two minutes of wearing a non-medical mask or a medical N95 mask.

    3. The gist of defendant’s third expert witness (a professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph):

    The professor said masking is appropriate for the sick but inappropriate for asymptomatic people. He said only a bombardment of the virus could infect someone else to the point of sickness. So unless someone is sick enough to be coughing and sneezing, they probably won’t infect anyone else.

    4. The gist of the defendant’s fourth and final expert witness (an infectious disease specialist and a medical microbiologist):

    The nine expert reports he authored on COVID-19 in five provinces found that “the difference between symptomatic transmission and asymptomatic transmission was about 25 times”

    I must admit, while the testimony of these four expert witnesses is indeed impressive, your hair salon anecdotal evidence seems to be quite daunting and difficult to overcome, lol!

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @Sparkon
  214. The Gimp says:

    Yawn… Another Ron Unz snooze fest article. His theory is a diversion. Kinda like tracking down why the rubber failed to stop the girl from getting pregnant. It doesn’t matter. The entire scamdemic was planned years in advance. Controlled opposition? Amazing how this site functions unfettered in a sea of takedowns.
    Now having said that I still read Unz for the other authors.

  215. @Towey

    I have read most of the articles by Ron Unz posted here, and I just can’t figure him out.

    To believe the government and media lies and propaganda about Covid 19, as Mr. Unz apparently does, requires the capacity to believe in fairy tales.

    And to write long articles that incorporate those lies implies mind control.

    I love the website. But I don’t bother to read Ron Unz articles anymore.

  216. SBaker says:
    @geokat62

    The CCP virus is a biological pathogen, but technically it was not weaponized like those of the former US offensive program or the world’s largest program in Russia. Any human or animal diagnostic or research lab, can grow biological agents, but, weaponizing them with special properties to enhance survivability in the open air, in bright UV light, and temperature extremes is a very different technology. The wild-type SARS Covid pathogen released in 2019 was a novel pathogen discovered, altered and released by the Chinese Government, maybe from the Wuhan lab–the proof of origin is uncertain, speculation is rampant, and vague conspiracy theories likewise. It does appear, according to molecular biologists, that the wild type virus was altered and I think it was scientists in India that first made the discovery and provided evidence. International students from China vectored the virus all over the western world killing millions of people including over a million in the US–the economic devastation was incalculable. I agree the vaccine is not 100% safe, just as no vaccine or medication ever is, but it is the best available with such a short lead time. I have known some very fit and healthy people that refused the vaccine and died from the virus. I can’t say I’ve known any that died from the vaccine, but, I realize the anti-vax movement has been dramatically stoked by this emergency that hit the West–this was largely the result of government’s forced vaccination mandates and that may work in China but not with American citizens. The vaccine seems to offer a reasonable amount of protection from severe disease in about 70-80% of the population which is better than the influenza vaccines. I freely admit I support vaccinations as a way to prevent infectious diseases and having worked in diagnostic labs (where diseases are diagnosed). I’ve seen the results of animal owners that don’t vaccinate livestock and pets, up close. I bet you and the good Dr. have not? I might be wrong so show me his scientific paper.

    Please send the refereed paper the doctor you mentioned providing the evidence he used to “blow-the-lid-off”. I am very interested in seeing that paper, but not the rest.

  217. Sparkon says:
    @geokat62

    I must admit, while the testimony of these four expert witnesses is indeed impressive, your hair salon anecdotal [sic] evidence seems to be quite daunting and difficult to overcome, lol!

    Like too many people commenting at UR, you don’t know the meaning of words. The Great Clips event was tracked by local and national health authorities, so it’s not “anecdotal,” and all your giggles can’t change that.

    The Greene County Health Department (Missouri) conducted contact tracing for all 139 exposed clients back to the dates that stylists A and B first developed symptoms.

    From the U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention:

    Summary

    What is already known about this topic?

    Consistent and correct use of cloth face coverings is recommended to reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2.

    What is added by this report?

    Among 139 clients exposed to two symptomatic hair stylists with confirmed COVID-19 while both the stylists and the clients wore face masks, no symptomatic secondary cases were reported; among 67 clients tested for SARS-CoV-2, all test results were negative. Adherence to the community’s and company’s face-covering policy likely mitigated spread of SARS-CoV-2.

    What are the implications for public health practice?

    As stay-at-home orders are lifted, professional and social interactions in the community will present more opportunities for spread of SARS-CoV-2. Broader implementation of face covering policies could mitigate the spread of infection in the general population.

    [my formatting]

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm

    Note that it was not just 40 customers who were exposed at the Great Clips salon as I misreported above, but 139. Note too that stylist A went home and infected all four members of her household.

    Finally, the DANMASK-19 study cited by one your experts was poorly conducted and controlled. Participants wore disposable “surgical” masks which were never designed to block, stop or filter out viruses

    Among participants, 46% wore the mask as recommended and 47% wore it “predominantly as recommended,”

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/89778

    USF Professor: Danish Mask Study is Poorly Done, Flawed

    https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/11/19/usf-professor--danish-mask-study-is-a-poor-study

    • Replies: @geokat62
  218. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “Here is the final word on the ineffectiveness of masks…James Kitchen Explains”

    Next time you have a surgical procedure (hopefully minor), tell the lead surgeon, assistants, anesthesiologist and nurses to take off their ‘face diapers’ – macho James Kitchen (litigator) knows better.

    While you’re at it, tell them not to sterilize instruments (autoclaves must be a Jewish plot) or bandages; and not to bother clearing the operating theatre (another plot).

    Warning: make sure your life insurance premiums are paid up-to-date.

    Stay well, poor geo.

  219. @geokat62

    The Bangladesh mask trials which both sides agreed was the best study, found that normal cloth masks were totally ineffective in blocking Covid spread. A special, washable surgical mask decreased infection significantly by 11%: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abi9069

    The Danish study: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/m20-6817 also found no significant effect of masking. (The Danes were expecting a 20-30% decrease in infection rate with masks, but were shocked at the “no effect” and felt it was important to publish. They had a difficult time publishing “since everyone KNOWS masks prevent spread of disease”.

    For ivermectin effects on Covid: “Meta analysis using the most serious outcome shows 63% [53‑72%] and 83% [74‑89%] improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis, with similar results after exclusion based sensitivity analysis, for primary outcomes, for peer-reviewed studies, and for RCTs.”
    From 81 studies. Ivermectin may have debatable efficacy, but is harmless and cheap, and it is not clear why its use has been so restricted?

  220. @Incitatus

    Next time you have a surgical procedure (hopefully minor), tell the lead surgeon, assistants, anesthesiologist and nurses to take off their ‘face diapers’ – macho James Kitchen (litigator) knows better.

    Ah, dear Mr. Incitatus, ever ready to incite some mayhem. It’s a funny old world, and it takes all types, I suppose.

    I would never be so impolite as to call you a moron, Mr. Incitatus, but perhaps you’re not familiar with the purpose of masking during surgical procedures.

    Hint – it’s not to prevent the transmission of pathologic virii from the medical staff to the patient (or vice versa).

    Just as well, because in that case the masking would completely fail its supposed purpose.

    Did I mention? I would never stoop so low as to label you a moron.

    • LOL: geokat62
    • Replies: @Incitatus
  221. geokat62 says:
    @Sparkon

    Like too many people commenting at UR, you don’t know the meaning of words. The Great Clips event was tracked by local and national health authorities, so it’s not “anecdotal,” and all your giggles can’t change that.

    Look, Sparkoff, there are five levels in the hierarchy of scientific evidence. At the very top are Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) and at the very body are anecdotal stories of hair salons. See, without a control group to control for all other variables, the results of a non-randomized study is completely worthless.

    Finally, the DANMASK-19 study cited by one your experts was poorly conducted and controlled.

    Yes, yes, of course. If that’s true, why hasn’t there been another RCT study conducted to refute the results of the Danish study?

    I’ll tell you why, because they can’t get the result they’re looking for.

    Four experts testified under oath that masks don’t work. People could go with the non-randomized results of a hair salon “study” or they could go with the evidence presented by these four experts. Let’s let them decide what evidence they find compelling.

  222. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Next time you have a surgical procedure (hopefully minor), tell the lead surgeon, assistants, anesthesiologist and nurses to take off their ‘face diapers’ – macho James Kitchen (litigator) knows better.

    I never claimed surgeons shouldn’t wear surgical masks when operating on patients, Incy.

    I just don’t think surgeons or anyone else should wear surgical masks when they’re shopping at Walmart and picking up a coffee, as these masks work to prevent the transmission of very large things like blood and saliva, and do virtually nothing to prevent the transmission of respiratory diseases.

    Warning: make sure your life insurance premiums are paid up-to-date.

    Warning: make sure you renew your expired subscription to New Scientist, lol.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  223. @Bernard Brandt

    “… that the pandemic began in Wuhan, China at least several months before November 2019.”

    It began in Wuhan in September because that was when the US team to the military games stayed at an hotel a couple of hundred metres up the road from the “wet markets” and went ‘touristing’ around the markets. Five of the team hospitalised even though they would have had their own doctors. Cover story released was “malaria”. That is a lie. Nobody will contract malaria while staying in a modern Wuhan hotel. Also not sufficient time for symptoms of malaria to show, before they became ill(just a few days after arrival in wuhan).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  224. @geokat62

    At the ‘very top’ are meta-analyses. RCTs and all other investigations are subject to the tsunami of research malfeasance and fraud, driven by MONEY, that medical journals have, occasionally, bewailed for years. The most recent the BMJ that observed that ‘evidence-based medicine’ is useless in a milieu of widespread corruption of science. And then there are the trolls like you who appear from ‘neath rocks to slander and study that does not adhere to the BigPharma controlled Mobthink.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Wizard of Oz
  225. @michael888

    How do you get from ivermectin giving 63% and 83% improvement from prophylaxis and early treatment, to ‘Ivermectin may have dubious efficacy..’???!! The jihad against IVM is one of the great crimes of the 21st century so far, causing hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, and those responsible MUST face justice, somehow, one day.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @michael888
  226. Sparkon says:
    @geokat62

    See, without a control group to control for all other variables, the results of a non-randomized study is completely worthless.

    In the Springfield Great Clips case, the de facto control group was stylist A’s immediate family along with her fellow stylist, all of whom became infected because of close interpersonal contact with the infected stylist without masks.

    Obviously, the Greene country health officials in Missouri did not consider the results of the Great Clips case “completely worthless,” nor did the CDC. Sorry to tell you, Geo, but the CDC has more scientific credibility on COVID-19 than you or your “experts,” who are waving around that worthless DANMASK-19 study, which had very poor control over anything, and relied on anecdotal accounts from the participants to indicate their compliance.

    Establishment science often can’t find its own rear end with both hands.
    That’s why it took establishment science decades to finally acknowledge what anecdotal accounts had been saying for centuries: rocks do fall from the sky.

    Establishment science also had it totally wrong on ulcers, and large parts of establishment science also have it totally wrong on global warming, which is not caused by humans.

    I can’t wait around for establishment science to run proper tests and trials that would meet your approval, even if it could.

    I use the best information I have available to protect my health. That’s my responsibility, and I accept that. So far so good.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  227. geokat62 says:
    @Sparkon

    In the Springfield Great Clips case, the de facto control group was stylist A’s immediate family along with her fellow stylist…

    Assuming stylist A’s immediate family size is less than the required threshold for statistical inferences to be drawn, I’m afraid the Springfield Great Clips case did not have a properly constituted control group. No proper control groups means no reliable inferences can be drawn regarding effectiveness of masks.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Sparkon
  228. geokat62 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    And then there are the trolls like you who appear from ‘neath rocks to slander and study that does not adhere to the BigPharma controlled Mobthink.

    Care to elaborate?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  229. Ron Unz says:
    @acementhead

    It began in Wuhan in September because that was when the US team to the military games stayed at an hotel a couple of hundred metres up the road from the “wet markets” and went ‘touristing’ around the markets. Five of the team hospitalised even though they would have had their own doctors.

    I think you’ve fallen for an Internet hoax, probably having read a version of this article which was widely circulated on the Internet:

    https://alethonews.com/2020/03/22/wuhan-outbreak-china-demands-an-honest-accounting/

    Apparently, it was simply concocted by pro-Chinese propaganda-activists. Here’s a comment of mine from last year:

    I think a much more reliable account was recently produced by several mainstream Chinese journalists who visited Wuhan to investigate the early history of the Wuhan outbreak and published what they had found in a big Global Times article, which I’d linked in my analysis:

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1221102.shtml

    Their report didn’t mention anything about the Oriental Hotel hosting American servicemen or the staff getting infected with Covid, even though that’s exactly the sort of thing they were looking for, and which the PRC government has generally suggested.

    Therefore, I think all that “exciting” website material you quoted were probably just invented by some pro-China activist, just like anti-China activists are also always making up stories to support their position.

    On highly controversial topics, it’s always very risky to just assume that what you read on some website is factual rather than fictional.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/?showcomments#comment-4796240

    Obviously, China’s Global Times newspaper is much more credible than what some random person wrote on a website somewhere. Ignoring such careful source-evaluation is how ridiculous rumors spread about the Internet.

  230. @Zachary Smith

    Dr Zachary Smith, formerly one of the cast of the TV series ‘Lost in Space’, writes:

    This is corroborating evidence of a massive program of euthanasing elderly Covid patients in Sweden, some of whom died hideous deaths!
    Why is there not greater outrage about this? I get people are upset about Ukraine, but a giant crime took place in Sweden, and West is mum!

    I can’t believe my eyes. Finally, Zach Smith speaks the truth and takes a break from acting as apologist for Big Pharma and the Zio orchestrated Covid Psyop.

    What’s the matter Zach ? Have you finally had an epiphany and ended your association with the Talmudic misfits ?

  231. @geokat62

    I’m writing to you instead of Sparkon, so that I can give you a big thumbs up for trying your best to defuse still existing CoronaPanic (geeze, it’s been 2 years!). Since we’re talking anecdotes here, let me give you a Great Clips anecdote that’s not about contagion so much as Orwellian Totalitarianism.

    First off, I just haven’t found another regular normal barber around, so I’ve been putting up with the corporate BS for a while now (my wife does a pretty good job, but occasionally …). Anyway, “Hello, welcome to Great Clips. What’s your phone number?” “I came to get a haircut. You cut my hair, and then I’ll pay y’all.”

    Well, that used to go back and forth a bit until they just understood that they don’t need my life story, and they were (and are again) OK with my giving them my land-line number from the 1990s – it’s easy to remember now – or their typing in all 9’s – whatever the hell floats their boat.

    However, for about 6 months – I’m guessing early Summer of ’20 until near the end of that year – they’d tell me they REALLY needed the correct number for contact tracing – though the ladies are not of the intelligence to use that term.

    “I don’t want anyone tracking me down!” Well, this went round and round until I had to lie more straight-out. “OK, here’s my real number. It’s a land line, because this phone’s got problems.” (As if I really cared. I didn’t want them to try the mobile and not get me.) I don’t like lying like that, but, damn, I’m not voluntarily going to be a party to Orwellian shit. It was my friend’s old land line instead.

    PS: I probably could have gotten away with 867-5309, as these girls would have never heard of 40 y/o Jenny, as sung by Tommy Tutone. It’s probably already in the system, though…

    • Thanks: geokat62
  232. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Bernard Brandt

    Apparently you are trying to say that Unz is focusing on the trivial (whether or not Covid was intentionally released by rogue elements within the U.S. government as an attack against China and Iran) while ignoring the substance (whether or not the virus appeared before November 2019). Stated in full like that shows how silly your claim is, even if the DRASTIC people were correct.

    I don’t think they are. Their own website, which you linked to, makes them look like cranks – drasticresearch.org/the-team – and is so rangy and disorganized, snowing the reader with more and more details unrelated to each other, I couldn’t locate their main arguments. The only person identified on the main page is Simon Wain-Hobson, a prominent microbiologist. According to the Wikipedia page on him he is Board Chairman of the Foundation for Vaccine Research in Washington, D.C, which doesn’t inspire confidence. His article that page links to is from 2018 and has nothing to do with the subject at hand. And note the logo on that article: “EcoHealth Alliance,” whose CEO is Peter Daszak, right within the belly of the beast.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Bernard Brandt
  233. @SBaker

    Baker comes up with the following half-baked assertions:

    International students from China vectored the virus all over the western world killing millions of people including over a million in the US–the economic devastation was incalculable

    and …

    I agree the vaccine is not 100% safe, just as no vaccine or medication ever is, but it is the best available with such a short lead time.

    There may well be over a million that died in the U.S in the last two years that died of ‘something’ and were then falsely attributed to Covid.
    But to not suspect that many elderly nursing homes residents weren’t euthanased, that many died from medical malpractice (Ventilator Induced lung injuries, killed with the toxic Remdesivir, among the many who died from Deaths of Despair that were brought about by the lockdowns and other Covid tyranny, or died from vaccine induced side affects), you’d have to be one seriously dumb fuck (or in the employ of the Talmudic miscreants that orchestrated the Covid Psyop).

    I suspect that it could be a bit of both in your case Mr ‘Half-Baked’.

    As to your ‘vaccine is not 100% safe’ remark, don’t you think you may have understated that just a tad ?

    In the U.S there are over seventy (70) other vaccines that are widely administered each year. Vaccines like the MMR and DPT for children, Hepatitis B, Small pox, influenza etc.

    Yes, with each of those there may be a small subset of recipients that have adverse effects and, on occasion, there will be some deaths.

    If the Covid mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as vaccines were killing a few more than even the most lethal among these seventy plus vaccines, then you could well make your statement with a clear conscience.

    BUT, according to VAERS data, the Covid ‘vaccines; have killed MORE individuals in the last 12 months than the AGGREGATE DEATHS from all of those seventy plus other vaccines over the last THIRTY (30) years COMBINED.

    Do you understand that Mr Half-Baked ?

    More importantly, what I wrote above is based on the doctored statistics put out by the corrupt CDC/FDA run VAERS entity.
    Whistleblowers in VAERS have stated that the death tallies being released to the public are undercounted by a FACTOR OF FIVE at a minimum.
    Other reputable physicians and medical professionals say it’s undercounted by a factor of TEN or more.

    The Covid ‘vaccines’ are, BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE, the most lethal vaccines in the history of the world.

    That you can’t see this is testament to how much of a stupid fuckwit you must be.

    You also posted this foolish remark:

    The vaccine seems to offer a reasonable amount of protection from severe disease in about 70-80% of the population which is better than the influenza vaccines.

    Really ? Are you serious ?

    Data from the world over shows that the overwhelming bulk of those hospitalised or dropping dead in recent times are ALL FULLY VAXXED.
    And, to the extent that some that died are classified as unvaxxed, a great many of those are individuals that got the jab, had an IMMEDIATE adverse reaction that led to their death some days later.
    BUT, because the official definition of vaxxed is someone that allowed for a FOURTEEN (14) DAY period to elapse after the jab, because said individual died before the 14 day period, they are tallied as unvaxxed.

    The degree of CHICANERY in the official Covid mortality stats is mind boggling.

    Lastly, if the Covid vaxxes are indeed as efficacious as your handlers at Big Pharma claim, WHY is it that MORE PEOPLE DIED from Covid in 2021, a year when most in the western world are vaxxed, than in 2020 when NO ONE was vaxxed ?

    Shouldn’t there have been a PRECIPITOUS DROP in Covid mortality if the ‘vaccines’ were as effective as you claim ?

    That’s a rhetorical question of course.
    Because everyone at UR can see that you’re a lying piece-of-it Mr Half-Baked and that your role here is to propagandise on behalf of your Zio/Big Pharma controllers.

    • Agree: acementhead
  234. @Incitatus

    Oh dear. ‘Insect-us’ has to chime in with his two shekels worth of Zio inspired misdirection.

    Give it a rest Insect-us, just for a day or two.

    Put your feet up, get those Matzah-balls out that you were brought up on in your Hasidic household and munch on them for an hour or two.
    Better still, get outdoors and started wailing at that Wailing Wall of yours where you can wail to your hearts content out of earshot of civilised society, instead of showing up here with your disinfo.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  235. @michael888

    From 81 studies. Ivermectin may have debatable efficacy, but is harmless and cheap, and it is not clear why its use has been so restricted?

    I think you’re being very charitable in asking such a question, given the lockstep manner in which Ivermectin use has been restricted around the world with the arrival of the alleged Corona Chan “pandemic”, after decades of safe and effective use and inclusion of Ivermectin on the WHO’s list of essential medicines.

    They even passed laws in Queensland to throw any doctor that prescribed Ivermectin for Corona Chan into jail.

    The inference can be drawn, of course, that the order to kill Ivermectin was given from some central authority serving the interests of Big Pharma and / or whatever other people desired a global “vaccination” campaign, seeing as how so many experts like Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Joseph Varon, Dr. Bryan Ardis, Dr. Pierre Kory and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko have emphatically attested to its effectiveness in treating Corona Chan, and if permitted to be so used, would have prevented the Emergency Use Authorisation of said “vaccines”.

    If Ivermectin prevailed, then the global “vaccine” rollout would have been stopped in its tracks.

    Thinking people can draw their own conclusions (and most likely already have).

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  236. Stephane says:
    @The Real World

    I tried to gives you a detailled answer, so I have hidden most of it for those who are not interested

    [MORE]

    Our first brush with COVID was at the end of January, my 9-year old son was tested positive at school. Marginally positive only, PCR at about 30 cycles, he never tested positive on antigenic self test and did not pass it to us. I don’t know which strain it was.

    My S.O caught it on a monday evening when going to a family event – the burial of an aunt (not COVID related, she died of old age). One of the people present was positive but did not know it yet. They took some precautions, but had some coffee together and talked without masks indoors for maybe one hour.

    Nearly everyone present felt some mild symptoms about 3 days later, and tested positive one way or another (antigenic self test or PCR) in less than a week.

    She felt some symptoms (a bit of coughing and runny nose), tested negative on wednesday (self-test), felt worse on Thursday but did go to work and re-tested herself at the end of the afternoon, and this test was positive.

    It was a bit late for a confirmation PCR test, so we both did a PCR test Friday morning. She came up clearly positive, at 16 cycles, while I was negative (and without symptoms at the time).

    I felt a few symptoms (some coughing) by Sunday, and self-tested positive Tuesday morning, confirmed by a PCR test – positive at 25 cycles.

    She did another PCR test later in the week (I don’t remember the exact timing), it was still positive but down to 27 cycles (from 16), suggesting a decrease in viral load and having passed the peak.

    We are both at three vaccination – we are 50 years old, a bit overweight, and since she had to undergo surgery, chemiotherapy and rays for breast cancer first half of 2021 her immune system is not exactly at full speed so we considered this to be the rational choice – for her because of obvious risks factors and for me to reduce the chances of contamining her.

    I experienced mild symptoms for about a week, mostly bouts of coughing, tiredness and a few minor headaches. Her symptoms were more severe (cough, medium fever, heavy headaches, tiredness…) and she was affected longer.

    The peoples in her family who caught it too showed mostly minor symptoms, comparable to what I experienced, including two who are under immuno-regulating drugs. Their age is mostly in the 50-75 brackets, and as far as I can tell most of them are vaccinated. Nobody needed hospitalization, and most did not bother to see a doctor, just self-isolated until no symptoms and self-test negative.

    As far as I can tell, we did not pass it to anyone else. Our son did not catch it again, but he had a positive test less thant two month earlier so probably a decent immunity – and childs are less symptomatics to begin with.

    My observations about the whole thing :
    – Omicron is *highly* contagious. It’s one thing to read about it, it’s another to experience it.

    – masks gives some protection. My S.O worked half a day with another person in the same room when she was already contagious (Thursday, 18 hours before her 16 cycle positive PCR), but they were both wearing FFP2 masks, and regularly aerating the room, and she did not pass it. I got it, but we did not take precautions because we assumed that by the time we knew she got it she probably already passed it to me – I work from home and we sleep in the same bed so BIG exposition here…

    – the severity of the symptoms everyone experienced seems consistent with the PCR cycles count

    – vaccination does not completely protect from infection. This is not a surprise, and we are talking about Omicron which is known to be better at going through immunity. I think it is effective in reducing the severity of an infection – noboby got seriously hit – but the sample size is small so it it’s more anecdote and feeling than proof.

    I hope this answer is complete enough.

    • Thanks: The Real World
  237. @geokat62

    I do seem to have not only flown off the handle, but rammed it up my fundament for further effect. Many apologies, although I do stand by my assertions that meta-analyses are the highest standard, and that scientific research in medical matters is hopelessly corrupted. I think I had just ingested a toxic quantity of Wizz balderdash, and was not in full command of my faculties, including reading cognition.

    • LOL: geokat62
  238. geokat62 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    PS: I probably could have gotten away with 867-5309, as these girls would have never heard of 40 y/o Jenny, as sung by Tommy Tutone. It’s probably already in the system, though…

    lol, one of my favourites.

  239. @Achmed E. Newman

    When I got “covid” last august the contact tracer people somehow got my phone number (yay medical privacy) called me and knew I had “covid” and can we ask you a few questions they say. No I say. Followed by goodbye. They tried a few more times, left a few messages until I blocked their number.

    Fuck that.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  240. @Jeffrey A Freeman

    Good job, Jeff.

    I could tell you about some calls from corporate HR people telling me I’d worked with people with the Kung Flu. It got funny when they’d tell me that they couldn’t tell me who it was due to the HIPAA laws. I KNEW who it was, each time. One time, at the end of talking to them (telling me to stay home) I asked “well, how is [so-and-so] doing, anyway?” “NO, no! We can’t tell you! We’ll get sued!!”

    Whatever…

    • Thanks: Jeffrey A Freeman
  241. Sparkon says:
    @geokat62

    properly constituted control group

    Real-world results always trump lab studies, clinical trials and especially, artificial statistical definitions.

    “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

    — Mark Twain [?]

    After all, the very reason the studies and trials are conducted in the first place is to determine what to do in the real world.

  242. @Mark Hunter

    Apparently you are trying to say that Unz is focusing on the trivial (whether or not Covid was intentionally released by rogue elements within the U.S. government as an attack against China and Iran) while ignoring the substance (whether or not the virus appeared before November 2019). Stated in full like that shows how silly your claim is, even if the DRASTIC people were correct.

    No. What I was saying was that Mr. Unz ‘deliberate release by rogue U.S. agents’ hypothesis was premised on the assumption that the Covid-19 pandemic began around January of 2020, and that hypothesis would be falsified if it were shown that the pandemic began earlier.

    I would suggest that you take a course in remedial reading. Mortimer J. Adler’s How to Read a Book would be a good starting point.

    I don’t think they are. Their own website, which you linked to, makes them look like cranks – drasticresearch.org/the-team – and is so rangy and disorganized, snowing the reader with more and more details unrelated to each other, I couldn’t locate their main arguments…

    If you can’t look past the format of a website to isolate the information on that website, I’m afraid that I can’t help you. I would therefore also suggest you take a course in critical thinking. Francis Dauer’s book, Critical Thinking: An Introduction to Thinking, might be helpful to you.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  243. SBaker says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    As if you had ever heard of ivermectins before the CCP virus flooded the world. Merck, the developer of ivermectin use in the US, developed this parasiticide in the 1970s. It has no virucidal activity, also determined in the early 1980s, but has made billions for the company. Now we have unproven efficacy claims by mumblebrains, making billions more for “Big Pharma” as you and other small business, and no business, people from 3rd world countries declaring. Big Pharma doesn’t want this money maybe?

  244. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Bernard Brandt

    The folks at DRASTIC could benefit from a writing course because the name of the link is the last word in ambiguity:

    Annotated Version of the DARPA DEFUSE Proposal by Professor Simon Wain-Hobson”

    What they meant was not that Wain-Hobson wrote what was linked to but annotations to it. (There don’t seem to be any annotations at the link though, only highlights.)

    I stand by what I wrote about triviality versus substance.

    • Replies: @WIzard of Oz
  245. @Greg S.

    THE VIRAL DELUSION EP. 1, THE TRAGIC PSEUDOSCIENCE OF SARS-COV-2

    [MORE]
  246. @SBaker

    Another vicious Sinophobe cretin. It’s CPC, by the way, dullard wretch. Ivermectin was used to cure river blindness in West Africa and this was reported in the MSM. I know of it from use in parasites in people from New Caledonia, and in veterinary use.
    IVM has been shown, in recent years, in vitro, to be highly effective against Zika, dengue and SARS viruses, so you are mistaken, lying, or simply regurgitating Big Pharma lies, like the troll that you are. And it is off-patent you moronic, pig ignorant, creep, so Big Pharma makes feck-all from it, and it, in fact, threatens their gene therapy honey-pot.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @Wizard of Oz
  247. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Within a few weeks of the first reports of SARS CoV2, a Melbourne University team and a highly respected research group reported that IVM was effective against the virus in vitro. IVM has shown interesting anti-viral properties against a number of viruses, on the bench, in recent years.
    This report was immediately attacked in a very vitriolic fashion. One MSM self-appointed medical ‘expert’ derided IVM as ‘sheep dip’ (he probably meant sheep drench), in his smug ‘expertise’ either being unaware of IVM’s use in four billion human doses, over decades, outstanding safety profile, being on the WHO list of ‘Essential Medications’ and its Nobel Prize for its discoverers, as recently as 2015, or simply propagandising. So the creature is either pig ignorant, something his habitual arrogance would make doubly tragic, or was instructed, by someone, to mount this attack. The rest of the MSM vermin joined in of course, braying ‘horse de-wormer’ like the pig ignorant, paid-off, scum that they are, and hundreds of thousands died needlessly, and tens of millions were injected with mRNA poisons. Someone must be held to account for this atrocity, some day.

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @michael888
  248. @SBaker

    Mendacious, Sinophobic, moronic agit-prop from a truly vicious Big Pharma troll.

  249. SBaker says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Calm down tough guy. River blindness is caused by a parasite, hence the use of a parasiticide.
    In vitro is not in vivo, mr river blind. You have never conducted any kind of clinical study in your life and I seriously doubt you have ever used ivermectin. Like many people on the internet, you can’t help but pretend you are something, or possess some special self-taught expertise, in areas you lack education and experience. Tell us about your in vivo and in vitro testing experience and please refrain from being the tough guy. Are you a native of West Africa?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  250. @SBaker

    It has no virucidal activity, also determined in the early 1980s, but has made billions for the company.

    Culturally appropriate response – Pig’s Arse!

    Politically acceptable response – Fail. Go to the back of the classroom – the Dunce chair is waiting for you over there in the corner.

    1. Ivermectin has proven antiviral effects, including against the alleged Corona Chan bug. Do we really need to rub your nose in 50 pages of references to make the point?

    2. Ivermectin is out of patent. Why else would Merck take to publicly rubbishing their own bona-fide miracle drug and now rush an obscenely expensive newly-patented (but basically crap and somewhat dangerous) Ivermectin clone to market? Because they can’t milk the Ivermectin cash cow any more.

    Sorry, Dude, you’re on the losing end on this one. Mulga has you over a barrel, by the short and curlies and on a hiding to nothing.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  251. @Ron Unz

    Thanks.

    I had not seen the article that you linked, but it is possible that the MANY articles I read all derived from that article.

    Apparently, it was simply concocted by pro-Chinese propaganda-activists.

    I have read your excerpt and the global times link. Nothing in either makes it “apparent(ly)” that it was simply concocted by p-C-p-a’s, although it is certainly possible that that is the case.

    The quote, below, from the same article mentions athletes staying in hotels; whether US athletes did or not stay at the Oriental Hotel is not mentioned.

    The Global Times reporters visited Wuhan, talking to merchants in the Huanan seafood market, where the earliest cluster infections in China were reported, hotels accommodating international military athletes in 2019,

    I asserted that five US team members became ill and were hospitalised. I did not get that from the internet, it was mainstream news. Also, it was reported in the MSM that their illness was Malaria.* I stand by my assertion that that is not credible. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. I have not detected any truth in the Western MSM(in contentious matters) since the Nayirah crime.

    I have spent hours trying to find, where, in fact, the US teams stayed, photos of the teams with individuals identifiable and lists of the names of team members, al to no avail. I accept that such might be available.

    The US has, I believe, the largest military in the world, and sent the largest contingent by far, but had abysmal results. Why is that?

    * This sentence is poorly constructed; I know what error is but can’t be bothered changing it(even though it would be very easy to do so).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  252. Ron Unz says:
    @acementhead

    I asserted that five US team members became ill and were hospitalised. I did not get that from the internet, it was mainstream news. Also, it was reported in the MSM that their illness was Malaria.* I stand by my assertion that that is not credible.

    The theory that it was Covid makes absolutely no sense. The single most important characteristic of Covid is that it is extremely contagious. If five US athletes were infected, their interactions with everyone else, both in China and after they returned home would have started a gigantic epidemic in the West, so large that nobody would have paid any attention to the January 2020 reports coming out of Wuhan. I’ve discussed this issue at length in my articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#promoting-a-ft-detrick-lab-leak-as-a-failure-of-nerve

    Early in 2020, anti-China propagandists began flooding the Internet with ridiculous anti-China “conspiracy theories” so a few people on the other side—whether pro-China or anti-America—began inventing ridiculous conspiracy theories of their own to match that. Claiming that American military athletes in Wuhan were infected with Covid but they never spread it to anyone else is merely one example of the nonsense that began floating around on various conspiracy websites.

    • Replies: @garys3054
  253. geokat62 says:

    Excerpts from, Did China Stage the Videos of People Collapsing in Wuhan?:

    Since the early days of the pandemic, many people have been wondering if the notorious videos of “people collapsing in Wuhan”, which emerged in late January 2020 (see below), had in fact been staged by the Chinese government to frighten the West into lockdowns and self-destruction. After all, it is argued, such events haven’t been seen anywhere else later on during the pandemic…

    Furthermore, it is noteworthy that the first English-language mention of the alleged “Chinese whistleblower doctor” Li Wenliang (who later died or disappeared) came from “China Change”, an “NGO” funded by the US National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a US government controlled entity that sponsors opposition groups in adversarial countries.

    This again might indicate that Western state actors either tried to leverage the situation in China, or tried to “frame” China (the real origin of the virus remaining unknown to this day). In contrast, the Chinese government itself primarily tried to downplay the situation, and continues to do so…

    In conclusion, there is currently no evidence that the “collapsing people” videos of January 2020 were a “Sun Tzu style” Chinese psyop. Instead, they may have been part of the “mass psychosis” at the time, leveraged by clickbaiters and hoaxers and Western media, or they may have been part of a Western psyop against China, against the Western population, or both.

    https://swprs.org/did-china-stage-the-videos-of-people-collapsing-in-wuhan/

  254. @Ron Unz

    “Obviously” one shouldn’t put much reliance on allegations of supposed fact picked up at random from a website lit upon by chance and without known provenance. But why is China’s Global Times “obviously” …. ” much more credible” on an issue of actual or potential contention between the US and China? It is, after all, a state propaganda medium, like Russian TV. I am not suggesting you are wrong to prefer the Global Times ac out in this case.

  255. @mulga mumblebrain

    I was appalled when I first read of the work of Prof Ioannidis and team on the lack of replicability on peer reviewed research published in the top medical journals, and worse. I don’t know if it has got better. But I would qualify your enthusiasm for meta-analyses generally. Although one might expect them if the underlying papers were numerous enough and included enough cases to have the essential virtue for the “wisdom of crowds” to operate positively, namely total independence of each other’s work, it is still very important to look at the totality yo make sure no studies seriously overweight it. I seem to remember that one invermectin meta study was disregarded because of failure in that particular

  256. @mulga mumblebrain

    You seem to have done enough reading on Ivermectin to allow you to put together a persuasive well footnoted case to select politicians who should be interested still in its use as an economical way of improving Covid 19 outcomes and/or in making a name for themselves for, as individual parliamentarians or mem ers of a Parliamentary committee, raising a stink against Big Pharma and other targets. Have you done it? If not why not? What have you done to advance the cause of Ivermectin use in the two years or so you have been carrying on about it?

  257. @mulga mumblebrain

    Well, on a purely statistical level I would agree. 81 studies show an average of >60% efficacy. Many doctors and some countries swear by ivermectin in preventing Covid and even treating mild cases. A Florida retrospective analysis, quickly withdrawn in the face of a storm of (largely unwarranted) criticism showed that ivermectin treatment was associated with better outcomes than remdesivir, the only FDA-approved (very expensive, on patent, injectable) drug at the time, noted to have adverse renal effects in many Covid patients.

    As I noted, ivermectin is a safe drug (brief mydriasis/ light sensitivity is about its worst, short-term side effect). The only possible objection to giving ivermectin to the most vulnerable is possible drug interactions (but those studies haven’t been done). Most diseases are treated with multiple drugs (AIDS, another virus example). The “leaky” spike-protein vaccines “only” protect about 5- to 20-fold from death (based on transparent weekly data from Singapore during its delta variant wave); ~30% of deaths there were in the fully vaccinated (two jabs Moderna or Pfizer) VULNERABLE populations. Giving these vaccinated vulnerable populations (the vast majority Elderly) ivermectin, fluvoxamine, HCQ or a host of other preventatives probably would have saved lives. The Biden administration claimed a 200-fold protection from Covid death with the vaccines (nonsense) and branded Covid an “Epidemic of the Unvaccinated”; much more accurate would have been to label it an “Epidemic of the Non-Immune”.
    The US seems to have better natural immunity than heavily vaccinated Europe, on par with many poorly vaccinated African nations. Natural immunity from surviving Covid (as almost all infected young healthy Americans have) is much superior, long lasting protection. (The interaction between natural and spike protein immunity should be understood by now, but is not. Or not allowed to be published.)

    “Our” regulatory authorities and federal scientific advisory groups (remember Public Health is a STATE authority not Federal, by the Tenth Amendment) refused to endorse ivermectin. They went all in on spike-protein vaccine monotherapy, knowing many would prefer alternative treatments, and be “vaccine hesitant”. The FDA infamously stated “You are not a horse.” Avoid ivermectin. The CDC cited large studies, poorly designed and based on acute, short-term ivermectin often in dying Covid patients, where only glucocorticoids (also initially banned) were effective. Trials which showed little or no ivermectin benefit (included in the 81 trials https://ivmmeta.com/). The NIH, to their credit, listed ivermectin along with other anti-virals with purported Covid efficacy, but that was ignored by both other Federal Agencies and State Media.
    For preventative effects on not just Covid but many diseases, one cannot give a drug acutely and expect protection (even the CDC must know this). Vitamin D deficient patients have worse outcomes with Covid, but restoring vitamin D actions in the body takes weeks to months. As does HCQ, well-known for lupus and arthritis patients. Ivermectin, and other repurposed drugs, likely require at least weeks pretreatment for maximal efficacy.
    When political considerations are ruining medicine, as in the US, it is no surprise that the American Covid death rate is among the highest in the world.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  258. @mulga mumblebrain

    I actually sent an e-mail to an author who had published a paper claiming the in vitro concentrations of ivermectin (in cell culture) were too high to be meaningful in humans.
    I pointed out that the concentration required IN VITRO to kill river blindness parasites (ivermectin’s best known use) was also much higher than reached in patients.
    I noted that ivermectin might reach much higher concentrations over time in patients’ cell types where the anti-viral effect dominated. This is often difficult to replicate in vitro (in most cell culture only one type of cell is used; no human tissue/organ is like that).
    I pointed out that ivermectin is extensively metabolized in humans and we have no idea if ivermectin or one of its metabolites is the active compound. Metabolism is generally poor in cell culture, and the author was not using liver cells (hepatocytes) with the best (but possibly not good enough) metabolic pathways.
    Surprisingly the author replied that she agreed with all my comments and said she was doing further studies, but people seem most delighted with her (“ivermectin is bad”) initial results. It is sad when science is used to further political goals.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  259. @michael888

    You seem to know quite a lot about relevant issues but I am curious about the implications of

    Ivermectin, and other repurposed drugs, likely require at least weeks pretreatment for maximal efficacy

    I note “maximal”. But it does raise the question of just when “pretreatment” would have to start in relation to the time of infection for it to be efficacious at all. It is almost as though one might be advised to start taking ivermectin five days before going to a wedding or funeral.

    Comment?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  260. garys3054 says:
    @Ron Unz

    The behavior of the US government since the beginning of the pandemic was always puzzling to me. It was almost like something you’d see a guilty party do to deflect blame to someone else. When you realize that that’s EXACTLY what’s going on, the puzzling behavior by the US begins to make sense.

    The US was covering up a virus leak on US soil in the middle of 2019. When China detected it several months later after it had worked its way across the globe, the US decided to blame them for it. We started a massive propaganda/disinformation/censorship/intimidation campaign to put the blame on China, because we didn’t want to be held responsible for it and have the anger of the world directed at us for a pandemic-causing lab virus on the loose. We did this on DAY ONE. We knew immediately what it was that they had detected.

    To this day, we banish/auto-reject any thought that it could possibly have originated from anywhere else, including detections that pre-date Wuhan’s first cases. Why? Because people would start asking where did it come from, if not China. The US can’t allow that, because we know that if scientists of the world were allowed to do an impartial, unimpeded investigation, it would inevitably lead to the US as being the source.

    The e-cigarette vaping illness in the news in 2019 was really covid-19. The CDC invented a cover story that vitamin e thickener was to blame after discovering it was one of our own lab viruses responsible (from Ralph Baric’s research). They might not know exactly when or from where it leaked. The closure of Ft. Detrick might have been a guess. The CDC covered it up, thinking it would be no big deal, that it might be possible to hide the numbers as a severe flu season and be gone in a year. When the virus reached China several months later however, they knew that it was no longer “no big deal”.

    To be clear, the virus had been silently circulating and spreading in the US since at least the middle of 2019, and since we didn’t take any action until early 2020, that long lead time is the reason why the US has such high levels of it. With China, the virus didn’t enter their country until late 2019. They detected it early and locked down early, allowing them to get it under control, which is why they have such low rates of it (until Omicron showed up).

    Whether or not GOF research was outsourced to WIV in cooperation with EcoHealth Alliance is irrelevant since there was never any leak from that lab.

    I believe that this is what really happened. The other theories formed because of the disinformation that the US is spreading. They have gotten everyone on a wild goose chase, as intended. They are creating false leads and trying to encourage this.

    I believe the virus’s evolutionary/phylogenetic tree is key to establishing that the US is the origin.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  261. James1488 says:

    ”I have argued that there is strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the outbreak was the result of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably orchestrated by rogue elements of the Trump Administration.”

    ”In 2017 Trump brought on board Robert Kadlec, who since the late 1990s had been America’s leading biowarfare advocate.”
    ”From January to August 2019, Kadlec ran the Federal/State “Crimson Contagion” exercise in which our government officials practiced their strategies of protecting American society from infection by a hypothetical dangerous respiratory virus that might suddenly appear in China”

    Mr. Unz, decide already: was it Trump who ordered the attack (it was he who appointed Kadlec, who later ran the exercise) or was it orchestrated by ”rogue elements” (even though ”government officials practiced their strategies” a year earlier)?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  262. SBaker says:
    @michael888

    It is refreshing to have a comment from someone that has understanding of the differences between in vitro and in vivo testing. In vitro is sometimes useful for screening 100s of compounds that might hold promise for in vivo testing trials. Maybe one in a 1000 ever reaches the clinical trials stage, and many that do, still fail to show efficacy and safety–Ivermectin is not approved as a virucide for very good reasons–fraudulent claims have consequences and drug companies are aware of such.

    To date I haven’t seen a single comment from anyone on this site that has ever used ivermectin for any purpose–yet the same proclaim themselves experts. They use the internet to find information that fits their narrative, then pronounce themselves expert. The one dunderhead makes the magnificent pronoucement that ivermectin is off-patent, as if anyone that has used it for decades isn’t already aware of such an irrelevant fact. The most important fact is ivermectin has no provable virucidal activity in clinical trials–without which any fraud can make any pronouncement.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  263. Ron Unz says:
    @garys3054

    The behavior of the US government since the beginning of the pandemic was always puzzling to me. It was almost like something you’d see a guilty party do to deflect blame to someone else. When you realize that that’s EXACTLY what’s going on, the puzzling behavior by the US begins to make sense.

    I agree with you entirely.

    The US was covering up a virus leak on US soil in the middle of 2019. When China detected it several months later after it had worked its way across the globe, the US decided to blame them for it.

    Here, I strongly disagree. There’s absolutely no evidence that Covid leaked out of Ft. Detrick or any other American biolab and there’s actually strong evidence against that, as I discussed in a section of one of my long articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#promoting-a-ft-detrick-lab-leak-as-a-failure-of-nerve

    Instead, there’s strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid outbreak was a deliberate and planned American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Based upon Trump’s later reaction, it’s very unlikely that he himself had been involved, but the prime suspects would be some of the Deep State Neocons near the top of his administration.

    Here’s a collection of my articles, including some of the most telling bits of evidence, and several of my recent video interviews that summarize my analysis:

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  264. Ron Unz says:
    @James1488

    Mr. Unz, decide already: was it Trump who ordered the attack (it was he who appointed Kadlec, who later ran the exercise) or was it orchestrated by ”rogue elements” (even though ”government officials practiced their strategies” a year earlier)?

    Trump may have appointed Kadlec, but it’s not clear if he even knew who he was or anything about him. The Trump Administration was exceptionally disorganized, with Trump’s top aides sometimes hiding his own Executive Orders and hoping that he’d forget about them. And if Trump didn’t authorize the attack, it was a “rogue operation” by definition.

    It’s not at all clear who was behind it, but the leading Deep State Neocons like John Bolton and Mike Pompeo would certainly be the most likely suspects. They would have then orchestrated the Crimson Contagion exercise and various other defensive steps in an (obviously unsuccessful) attempt to prevent any blowback.

    I doubt almost anyone involved in that exercise was aware of the planned attack, perhaps even including Kadlec himself. The whole plot was probably run by just a small handful of conspirators at the top, who then drew upon America’s biowarfare infrastructure to actually carry it out. And everyone in the latter category was told it was a fully authorized American operation against our leading international adversaries, China and Iran.

    • Replies: @James1488
  265. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “I just don’t think surgeons or anyone else should wear surgical masks when they’re shopping at Walmart and picking up a coffee, as these masks work to prevent the transmission of very large things like blood and saliva, and do virtually nothing to prevent the transmission of respiratory diseases.

    Surgeons without masks would transmit “very large things like blood and saliva” in procedures? How much “blood and saliva” do surgeons spew?

    [masks] do virtually nothing to prevent the transmission of respiratory diseases.

    Why, then, do surgical masks cover the nose? Is that a mistake? Please explain.

    Ever been to the Asclepeion in Kos, geo? ‘Do no harm’?

    One might easily assume you’re little more than a nihilist bomb-thrower (‘libertarian’: bored with a lack of accomplishment?), a Chicken-Little trolling for support by constant ‘sky-is-falling’ rhetoric? Emigration replacement theory (though you’re ironically first generation Canadian). Now pseudo-science urging more people to take risks. All so you feel more powerful? Give us a hint.

    I’ll give you this: your advocacy of pre-Hart-Celler immigration standards barring ‘Southern Europeans’ from North America seems wiser with your every post. Doubtless my Québec cousins think the same.

    Stay well geo.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  266. Incitatus says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    “Ah, dear Mr. Incitatus, ever ready to incite some mayhem. It’s a funny old world, and it takes all types, I suppose. I would never be so impolite as to call you a moron, Mr. Incitatus, but perhaps you’re not familiar with the purpose of masking during surgical procedures.”

    What a wonderful poisonous post dripping in venom! Many thanks!

    “perhaps you’re not familiar with the purpose of masking during surgical procedures. Hint – it’s not to prevent the transmission of pathologic virii from the medical staff to the patient (or vice versa).”

    So – your words – why are masks (covering nose and mouth) worn in surgery? Fashion statement? Never mind the clumsy rhetoric and ad hominums like “moron” (saving grace for those who can’t argue a subject). Get your act together with geo (please).

    “Did I mention? I would never stoop so low as to label you a moron.”

    Whew! Thanks for that. I feel so relieved! Won’t mention the elephant in the room – your adolescent (still popping zits?) screen name and the manure you regularly post. Post on!

  267. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Why, then, do surgical masks cover the nose?
    Is that a mistake? Please explain.

    Excerpt from Use of Surgical Masks in the Operating Room: A Review of the Clinical Effectiveness and Guidelines:

    [MORE]

    In the operating room (OR) there are procedures and practices in place intended to reduce the probability of infectious material transfer between OR staff and patients. Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide a physical barrier between bacteria of oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal origin and an open patient wound. Wearing a SFM in the OR is one of many long standing preventative practices, yet controversy exists as to the clinical effectiveness of SFMs in reducing the frequency of Surgical Site Infections (SSIs). Additionally, SFMs potentially protect OR staff by providing a physical barrier to infectious bodily fluid splashes from the patient. General purpose disposable SFMs however, are not specifically designed to protect the wearer from airborne infectious particulates.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK195773/pdf/Bookshelf_NBK195773.pdf

    Ever been to the Asclepeion in Kos, geo? ‘Do no harm’?

    The closest I got to Kos was when I toured the island of Rhodes in 1985. While I never made it to Kos, I am very familiar with the Hippocratic oath and it’s admonition to “First, do no harm.”
    Isn’t that what MDs were supposed to do but instead they encouraged their patients to get inoculated with experimental gene therapy jabs that do more harm than good, according to this excellent analysis conducted by the doctors at the Canadian Covid Care Alliance…

    https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-covid-19-more-harm-than-good-2/

    (libertarian’: bored with a lack of accomplishment?)

    lol! Libertarian? HaShem forbid. I’m an ardent ethno-nationalist, Incy. You know, like Zionists are avid proponents of a Jewish homeland, I’m an avid proponent for a homeland for all peoples, especially European and European-derived peoples, whose homelands are being destroyed faster than you can say, Open Society Foundations, lol.

    Now pseudo-science urging more people to take risks. All so you feel more powerful? Give us a hint.

    Take risks? I’m in favour of individuals being accountable for the level of risk they’re prepared to assume, barring some catastrophic cataclysm, like the Black Plague, which has an IFR grater than 10% (Cf Covid IFR of 0.15%).

    People can choose to wear masks if they so desire. I just don’t want them to be mandated, especially when four experts witnesses testified they do individuals bodily harm and they do little to nothing to prevent transmission of respiratory diseases.

    Doubtless my Québec cousins think the same.

    Give my regards to your Québécois cousins. Hopefully their progeny will still be speaking French in the not too distant future, but given the rate of mass immigration taking place in Montreal and environs, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  268. Incitatus says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    “Oh dear. ‘Insect-us’ has to chime in with his two shekels worth of Zio inspired misdirection. Give it a rest Insect-us, just for a day or two.”

    Wow! “Shekels”, “Zio inspired”, “Matzah-balls”, “Hasidic household”, “Wailing Wall”?

    Wipe the drool from your lips.

    You know Ron Unz, owner of UR site, is a Hebrew? Let’s guess – he’s the good Jew, enabling you (toxic Jew-hater/would be baiter) to demonize all things Jewish? If only to explain your shortcomings? Right?

    Of course, in your mind, sooner or later (after you ascend to power) Jew Ron will also have to go.

    “civilised society”?

    What do you know about civilization? Nothing in your posts communicates intelligence, let alone history. You darkly masturbate about Jews hoping you seem wise. That’s all you are, case closed.

    Good luck “Truth Vigilante”.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  269. @SBaker

    What a SLIMY BigPharma troll you are. Ivermectin has been used by hundreds of millions in four billion human doses, but as they are poor world patients a racist like you ignores that experience. Actual personal use is, in your deranged ‘mind’, required before one may comment or quote evidence-what a cretin you are!
    And ivermectin has been widely dispensed in countries where BigPharma does not hold sway, with EXCELLENT results against SARS CoV2, about which clinical experience you simply lie, you murderous, by active complicity, thug. IVM is banned in the West and slandered by troll swine like you BECAUSE it is cheap, effective and would get in the ways of billions in BigPharma profits by nullifying ‘Emergency Use’ approval for experimental gene therapy injections masquerading as ‘vaccines’. BigPharma certainly attracts the very worst human detritus.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  270. @Wizard of Oz

    IVM has been given by clinicians as a prophylaxis for healthcare workers, with great success, and for early treatment of susceptible groups when symptoms first arise, when the medical Mafia goons said take paracetamol and see if you end up in Emergency. Michael888’s ‘likely’ require weeks pretreatment is simply incorrect, as so, also, is your smart-arse comment.
    Moreover IVM has even had good effect on those treated with it in ICUs, usually only after a court order, where the medical Mafiosi only facilitate death with unhelpful treatments like ventilation, and outright poisons like remdesivir.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  271. @Incitatus

    Now now Insect-us, settle down.

    Take your medication and relax.

  272. @michael888

    Then you must face the FACT that numerous examples exist of REAL clinicians, not BigPharma trolls, or MSM vermin, actually reporting great success with IVM treatment, at much lower doses. While these REAL physicians like the FLCCC have produced treatment protocols for patients from near the beginning of the pandemic, the medical Mafias have NOT BOTHERED to do so, a very strange happenstance.
    All they do is say, go home, take paracetamol, and see if you end up in Emergency. There we will kill you with inappropriate ventilation, or poisonous and useless remdesivir, or, if you’re lucky, improve your chances with dexamethasone. And proven, cheap, very safe early treatments like HCQ, IVM, fluvoxamine etc, have been VICIOUSLY attacked by armies of trolls, actual clinicians vilely slandered by vermin, and treatment OUTRIGHT banned, in an unprecedented move, supplies cut off by pharmacists and by customs agents, and filthy, Evil, but typical, lies like the ‘crowded emergency departments in Oklahoma, block by those who took ‘horse-dewomer”peddled by the usual scum.
    Something very, very, Evil is afoot, and was long planned. The attacks here on IVM began as soon as a prestigious local Institute and University group published their promising results. I mean INSTANTLY. None of the usual crowing about local scientific successes, just slander and lies.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  273. @mulga mumblebrain

    Perhaps you will win the argument with Big Pharma and the medical profession over ivermectin in the most conclusive way if you can persuade some sufficiently influential Chines that you are right. Now that Shanghai is locked down and millions have caught an Omicron variant the numbers involved could be conclusive if treated with ivermectin.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  274. @Wizard of Oz

    You can only test the stuff on sick people, Wizard. I don’t think millions of people in Shanghai are sick. A few dozen million are being LOCKDOWNed and tested though, along with fish, chickens, and cats, on orders from Peking, but that’s political. It’s not about health. When you go full Totalitarian, it’s great, because you can just turn it on whenever and wherever you like.

    Mr. Xi said China would be “Covid Zero”, and, by God, he wants China to be Covid Zero. He doesn’t want to lose face. Additionally, he picked on the important finance/port city of Shanghai due to political struggles with Jiang Zemin over there. Reminds you of the era of Chairman Meow, doesn’t it?

    The more things change …

  275. @Ron Unz

    How is your “I agree with you entirely” compatible with your theory that only a handful of rogue actors knew the truth. What mechanism could they activate to have the whole of government behave as a knowing guilty party seeking to deflect blame on to someone else? Presumably the lining up of medical people to support a natural origin was not part of it. Then…..?

    From your next reply let me quote

    I doubt almost anyone involved in that exercise was aware of the planned attack, perhaps even including Kadlec himself. The whole plot was probably run by just a small handful of conspirators at the top, who then drew upon America’s biowarfare infrastructure to actually carry it out. And everyone in the latter category was told it was a fully authorized American operation against our leading international adversaries, China and Iran.

    If all of that were true isn’t it vanishingly unlikely that there would not be a whistllower once the underlings were undeceived and, especially, when Trimp’s crew were out of office?

  276. geokat62 says:

    Contrary to Ron’s analysis of Covid deaths in America based on excess deaths, two gentlemen at the Brownstone Institute, Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya, produced their own global analysis based on excess deaths, with some very interesting results.

    Excerpts from, The Global March of Folly:

    [MORE]

    Nevertheless, a recent article in the Lancet presents excess deaths for 2020-2021 for almost every country in the world. The map below shows the results:

    What can we learn from these data? How did three main pandemic strategies compare: (a) a do-nothing, let-it-rip approach; (b) focused protection of high-risk older people with only limited restrictions on others, and (c) general lockdowns and restrictions on all age groups?…

    In Western Europe, the Scandinavian countries had the lightest Covid restrictions while they tried to protect their older high-risk population. Sweden was heavily criticised for this by the international media. The Guardian, for instance, reported in 2020 that life in Sweden felt ‘surreal’, with ‘couples stroll[ing] arm in arm in the spring sunshine’. Many journalists, politicians and scientists expected that the lighter Scandinavian touch would lead to disaster. That did not happen. Sweden has among the lowest reported Covid mortality numbers in Europe. Of the European countries with more than one million people, Denmark (94), Finland (81), Norway (7), and Sweden (91) are four of only six countries with excess mortality less than 100 per 100,000 inhabitants, the other two being Ireland (12) and Switzerland (93)…

    In the US, South Dakota imposed few Covid restrictions, while Florida tried to protect older people without too many restrictions on the general population. Did that result in the predicted disaster? No. Compared to the national average of 179 excess deaths per 100,000, Florida had 212 while South Dakota had 156.

    Though excess-mortality data should still be treated with caution, they do show that the few places that rejected draconian Covid restrictions did not see the catastrophic death counts that some had predicted…

    Politicians argued that the draconian lockdowns were needed to protect lives. From the excess-mortality data, we now know they were not. Instead, they have contributed to the enormous collateral damage that we will have to live with for many years to come. It is tragic.

    By ignoring basic, long-standing principles of public health during the pandemic, most nations marched down the path of folly together. The leaders of those nations will be fine, except for some early retirements. The devastation on children, the poor, the working class and the middle class, on the other hand, will take decades to repair.

    https://brownstone.org/articles/the-global-march-of-folly/

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  277. @Achmed E. Newman

    I suppose you might start dosing half of those who go into quarantine/isolation because of contacts and compare them with the undosed half.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  278. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Mike Yeadon [former VP of Pfizer]:

    [MORE]

    This is self-explanatory about yet another rigged clinical trial, this time seeking to spike ivermectin.

    Let me assure you that, if a drug shows clear evidence of clinical efficacy across multiple trials, adding a single trial which claims that the same drug doesn’t work in the same disorder, what does not happen is that the latest data in any way invalidates what’s gone before.

    Yet that’s what they’re aiming to do with a trial at too low a dose, for too short a period & at too late a stage in the time-course of the illness.

    Additionally, if the trial is run in a cohort in which background use of the drug under test isn’t rare, yet not examined, imagine what that might do to apparent efficacy.

    Best wishes
    Mike [Yeadon, former VP of Pfizer]

    https://truth613.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-the-together-trial

    This is a very important podcast I recorded last night.
    They published an awful paper recently in the New England Journal of Medicine about the fraudulent TOGETHER trial that was run last summer in Brazil, claiming ivermectin doesn’t work.

    Here I am refuting the NEJM paper on the TOGETHER trial with the critical flaws that doctors showed me. It’s very important to share this because the fake trial results have been blasted in headlines all over, like NYT, and doubtless make people not seek lifesaving treatment.

    Please spread this around for me if possible.

    https://t.me/robinmg/18285

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  279. Jackwagon says:

    Trumps organization? We know where you stand. Trump had no organization. At best he was just the fall guy who happened to be occupying the office. At worst, this was a combination of organizations well above Trump’s pay grade working in sync to bring about the next step in the Davos/Redshields plan of world domination, or do you think the Georgia Guidestones were also part of Trump’s deep state cabal?

  280. @geokat62

    Reminiscent of the utterly fraudulent Surgisphere analysis debunking hydroxychloroquine, quickly spotted as phony, then withdrawn by Lancet and the NEJM, with TOTAL Western MSM silence over a MAJOR, if inept, research scandal. When this is over, if ever, those responsible for suppressing life-saving medications and killing hundreds of thousands, probably millions, must be held to account one way or another. The top dogs in BigPharma, the corrupted ‘regulators’, the disinformation trolls and, above all, the MSM vermin who were the propaganda droogs.

  281. @geokat62

    We DO NOT have ‘decades’ left to repair anything. As economic implosion under debt and inequality, ecological collapse in every life-sustaining system, and geo-political carnage as the dying US Reich lashes about in its mortal anguish, act together synergistically, Seneca’s observation that, while progress is slow and arduous, collapse is rapid and relentless, will play out. We may even be dead for Christmas.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  282. I know this is a little presumptuous, but I feel compelled to say that the majority of posters and nomadic vagabonds here on the Unz Review genuinely love Mr. Unz like that eccentric uncle we go to visit on his birthday and invite around for Christmas dinner.

    Eccentric he may be, but Mr. Unz’ penchant for investigative reporting is truly endearing, and even in cases where he might be off-target or missing the picture, he still often inadvertently hits the mark.

    [MORE]

    Take this article, for example – titled “Two Years After Covid, Eyes Remain Firmly Shut”.

    And indeed, for a thankfully reducing proportion of the Western population (the Global South are not quite so gullible, it would seem), so many eyes do remain shut, metaphorically speaking, despite the evident reality all around them.

    Take New Zealand, for example, that tiny nation of resilient bastards and feisty Maoris situated in the nether regions of the South Pacific. A nation ruled over for the past few years by a psycopathic Globalist graduate of the WEF’s Young Global Leaders program, personally mentored by inconsequential door-to-door shoe salesman Mr. Klaus Schwab himself, namely one Jacinda Ardern.

    Here’s what the Kiwi population are ever so gradually waking up to, as the carnage of a deadly bioweapon deliberately forced upon them by their own government takes its growing toll…

    https://www.australiannationalreview.com/covid-19/silent-no-more-the-story-that-must-be-told-about-the-c0vid-vaxxine-in-nz/

    Eyes wide shut indeed, Mr. Unz.

    Of course, that’s not the whole story, not by a long shot. The alleged Corona Chan bug and the fake “vaccines” inflicted on the world population aren’t the ultimate objective of that inconsequential door-to-door shoe salesman, they’re just a strategic thrust, a Trojan Horse so to speak, in a larger battle to take over the frigging planet (and clean out a goodly proportion of the “useless eaters” along the way).

    The battle is just getting started – China, Russia, India and quite a few other holdouts stand in the way of the Globalists’ New World Order, in which any survivors “will own nothing, and you will be happy”. The Ukraine is (as Bill Gates would say, “sadly”) just cannon fodder in the unfolding conflict – ironically, with Ukrainian links directly back to the Corona Chan “pandemic” strategy as now exposed by Russian capture of American bioweapons labs dotted across Ukraine and with documents specifically implicating the Australian Doherty Institute in these diabolical bioweapons schemes.

    Mr. Unz’ research helps to fill in the gaps in our situational awareness, regardless of the omissions. Every piece helps to build the picture behind the puzzle.

    And it goes without saying, you continue to have our heartfelt endorsement and support.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  283. @mulga mumblebrain

    We may even be dead for Christmas.

    As creepy Bill likes to say, “sadly”, you are most likely correct – at least, for a great many of the clueless lemmings. And even for many of the clued-in, if they don’t overcome their personal inertia.

    [MORE]

    One way or another, stocking up on non-perishables and boning up on growing fruit and veges is looking like a good idea.

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-04-08-america-on-fast-track-food-shortages-holodomor.html

    Here’s a man who seems to know what he’s talking about (might motivate some of those “eyes wide shut” to prise themselves open)…



    Video Link

    IMO Dr. Coleman is something akin to the Yin next to Mr. Unz’ Yang.

    • Thanks: IreneAthena
  284. Bite Moi says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz————Shush Ron.The Sheeple don’t want to know. They really do need to be told what to believe,what to do,and where to shyte.

  285. @mulga mumblebrain

    The airport code is PEK. Airport codes are not racist. Peking, it is!

    Then there’s Canton in the southeast – airport code is CAN.

    Peak Stupidity has opined on a lot of BS over the years, and this is just one – please go read “Every Picture Tells a Story, Don’t It?”:

    After reading and discussing China today, the older, English names for countries and for the cities in China came up. PeakStupidity believes the English names were so much nicer and evoked images of the mysterious Orient. For example, would you rather date a girl if she were billed as “a beautiful Oriental lass from Canton, in Cathay in the Far East” or if she were “a good worker loyal party-following comrade from Guangzhou’s Tein-hou district of the People’s Republic”?

    Well, which one, Mumble?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  286. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Excellent comment, Ultrafart!

    (May I cut this and paste in elsewhere?)

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  287. @WIzard of Oz

    If you wanted to do science for a change, not politics, yes, I suppose you could.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  288. @Achmed E. Newman

    (May I cut this and paste in elsewhere?)

    I have no qualms over other people re-using comments from here, but you might need to check Mr. Unz’ view on the matter, seeing as the terms of using the posting facilities of The Unz Review cede the copyright of all posts to Mr.Unz.

  289. James1488 says:
    @Ron Unz

    In a previous article you presented Robert Kadlec’s appointment, “America’s leading biowarfare advocate”, as a proof of the “attack” (implying he had something to do with it), and now you’re saying that Kadlec might not even have been involved at all.

    If the “rogue elements” orchestrated the exercise then they must have taken into account the fact that the virus could spread in the US as well; and if that was a possibility, what about Israel then? You claim they also targeted Iran’s top political elites (Israel being of course the main benefactor of the attack), but then Israel would have been way more exposed to the potential spread of the virus. Did they also have an exercise in Tel Aviv?

    And the fact that the DIA warned about a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak does not prove your theory at all. Knowing about a pandemic before it barely begun would have certainly raised suspicions. If the “attack” was executed by “rogue elements” then they wouldn’t have released a report so soon, thus exposing themselves; they were clever enough to plan and execute the attack but not to keep their mouths shut for a few more weeks? After all they took precautions – they had an exercise and took various other defensive steps.
    As l stated in a previous comment, there are other ways DIA could have knows about the pandemic. Let us not forget that the Chinese had the virus right there in their Wuhan lab.

    Soleimani’s assassination is also not a proof. While it was carried out having Trump’s approval (l wouldn’t be surprised if he even suggested it), the “biowarfare attack”, as you imply yourself, was done behind Trump’s back.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  290. @Ron Unz

    Those who do pay you the respect of taking care to know precisely what you have said are aware of your persuasive argument that the underlings carrying out the rogues’ scheme would have been told the truth , and would have believed that they were doing something properly authorised by the Aministration, even perhaps by the President. That being so, what is the chance not one of them would have been so outraged at the deception when it became evident, and perhaps so fearful of being the patsy who didn’t get immunity from prosecution, that they would by now have blown the whistle?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  291. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you for conceding in effect that those angry enough about sidelining of ivermectin use – like the apoplectic Mumblebrain – should place faith in the admired CPC to provide the proof so reliably that there would surely be a big backlash against Big Pharma.

  292. Ron Unz says:
    @James1488

    In a previous article you presented Robert Kadlec’s appointment, “America’s leading biowarfare advocate”, as a proof of the “attack” (implying he had something to do with it), and now you’re saying that Kadlec might not even have been involved at all

    During 2018 and 2019, China’s food supply had been severely hit by mysterious viral epidemics targeting poultry and pork. It’s quite possible Kadlec was directly involved with those, but wasn’t aware of the later release of Covid. All of this is pure speculation, but Kadlec’s background and his leadership of the Crimson Contagion exercise in 2019, certainly underscores the biowarfare focus of top elements of the Trump Administration.

    And the fact that the DIA warned about a “potentially cataclysmic” disease outbreak does not prove your theory at all. Knowing about a pandemic before it barely begun would have certainly raised suspicions.

    If not for America’s Covid disaster, the existence of the DIA report wouldn’t have been leaked to ABC News, so no one would have known about it. Anyway, except for me nobody has focused on that DIA report in two years, and if “suspicions” don’t get into the MSM, they don’t really matter.

    The bottom line is that the best scientific estimate is that Patient Zero in Wuhan became infected in late November, while the DIA had produced a secret report a couple of weeks earlier describing the potentially “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. And everyone has totally ignored this gigantic discrepancy for obvious reasons.

    • Replies: @James1488
  293. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    That being so, what is the chance not one of them would have been so outraged at the deception when it became evident, and perhaps so fearful of being the patsy who didn’t get immunity from prosecution, that they would by now have blown the whistle?

    Well, there’s absolutely overwhelming evidence that TWA Flight 800 was accidentally shot down by the US military in 1996, and more than 25 years later not a single insider has come forward to blow the whistle:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-destruction-of-twa-flight-800/

    There’s a great deal of evidence that accidental leaks from our biowarfare program inflicted enormous damage upon American agriculture during the 1950s and 1960s, but not a single insider ever came forward to blow the whistle:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-waging-biological-warfare/

    In the case of Covid, would an insider really want to come forward and say “Sure, I was responsible for killing a million Americans but although there wasn’t any official paperwork I thought it was an authorized operation. Next time I’ll be more careful and ask for written orders.”

    Since I’m virtually the only person anywhere pointing to all this evidence, why would those insiders be worried about being scapegoated and suffering any consequences? No one was ever punished for TWA Flight 800 or the previous biowarfare leaks.

  294. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Speaking of the vaccine, did the 75-year timeframe the FDA asked for to release Pfizer’s vaccine creation and testing data strike anyone else as odd? As the article says, it took the FDA just under four months to review this same data before it approved the vaccine:

    https://denvergazette.com/news/judge-scraps-75-year-fda-timeline-to-release-pfizer-vaccine-safety-data-giving-agency-eight/article_f007b8b4-ad66-59b4-a270-4709bc3e4814.html

    I cannot imagine why it would take a period of decades to release this material, unless it is as simple as government bureaucracies being used to moving at such a glacial pace.

    Has there been any conjecture about why the FDA was stalling for so much time? I can see them taking a year or two, perhaps, but not 75.

  295. 1click says:

    hello Ron,

    your hypothesis is not that new for me, as I read Larry Romanoff/ Shanghai early, but convinced me 100%. And I just realized, that you are well hidden by bing, promising quality.

    But you make the same mistake as everybody as you don’t have the fantasy to imagin the basics of biowar.

    Take a selfaugmenting pathogen like a common virus, use it as a vektor and fix something worse to it, as you want to do harm anyway you don’t even have to weaken it as it is done for conventional vaccines. The problem is, that those GE variants become less harmful very fast by evolution. When the Wuhan virus arrived in Northamerica, it was already weak. So you have to deliver new GE variants again and again, that’s the reason, why the US has 400 military biolabs around the world. The Wuhanvariant is not the Pekingvariant is not the Shanghaivirusariant and they are not connected by evolution.

    Virology might be complicated but is not very sientific at all. The wuhanvariant has 29.000+ aminoacids and there are four of them. I calculated, how long an unambiguous alphanumeric name has to be and with 5 signs per cm I ended up at 23 meters. I never saw such a long virusname.

    And that brings us to corona war 3. Connected by a window of opportunity another conspiracy made best use of the crisis with a mRNA-nanolipid experimental toxin to plunder the public funds of Angloamerica & EU, Latinamerica & Afrika were secondary theatres of war as there is not much left to plunder. I don’t know about the US, but in EU the Drosten fake PCR test, designed NOT to distinguish the wuhanvariant, was very helpful and the best is, that the fake narrative of a dangerous Virus in the Drosten states helped to hide the bio wars against China & Iran and that the real damage in China & Iran helped to support the fake narrative in the Drosten states.

  296. James1488 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Please tell me, if they took protective measures in the US, then they certainly must have informed the Israelis about the “biowarfare attack” (they were the main beneficiaries after all) they were panning, so they could take some kind of defensive measures themselves too, right?
    I wonder if there are any mentions in the newspapers about such measures being taken by Israel.

    Also, if Bolton or Pompeo were stupid enough to unleash the virus, the Israelis surely would have expressed some sort of opposition to using a bioweapon so close to their home.
    But if the Israelis would have agreed with the “attack”, which they must have since you claim it has taken place, then most probably it was done with the help (or at least the approval) of the Mossad, so there must have been at least some Israeli national security “rogue elements” involved too; so the blame also falls on them not only on the DIA/Bolton.

  297. @Ron Unz

    Well, there’s absolutely overwhelming evidence that TWA Flight 800 was accidentally shot down by the US military in 1996, and more than 25 years later not a single insider has come forward to blow the whistle…

    Good for you pointing this out, Mr. Unz, but there was in fact a whistleblower or two from inside the US Navy who spilled the beans about the US Navy blowing TWA Flight 800 out of the sky.

    There was also a bunch of irate family members who were collectively trying to get a proper investigation into the matter, given that eyewitness accounts contradicted the official narrative.

    Yet in the face of universal government and media complicity in covering it all up, the true story went nowhere. Died a quiet death, so to speak. They even put together a total BS documentary of the total BS FAA investigation in the widely syndicated TV show “Air Crash Investigations”, pinning the blame on faulty wiring igniting fuel in the wing tanks (or some such contrived yet suitably plausible BS).

    Of course, you already know all of that. This all only goes to reinforce your point – yes, the government can cover up whatever it wants to cover up, buried like a dead dog never to see the light of day again.

    Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but the same point could be made about the alleged Moon landings, the JFK assassination, and the orchestrated 11 September 2001 atrocities. Seems that the bigger the lie, the deeper the hole that gets dug for it. Note that each of those fake histories has been accompanied by their own professionally produced BS investigations and documentaries about “what really happened” courtesy of the relevant thoroughly subverted regulatory agencies and most especially those masters of illusion over there in Hollywood.

    If you have enough influence, enough money and enough power, you can bury anything.

    Let’s see what BS narrative they pull to bury Hunter Biden’s treason and pedophilia-soaked laptop.

  298. Covid-19 ,if it even exists is a minor illness with a low fatality rate,it’s probably a hoax and the pandemic was created and fuelled by the scaremongering of the massmedis.

    • Replies: @1click
  299. 1click says:
    @9/11 inside job

    if Covid is ONE illness at all caused by only one GE variant of Corona.

  300. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    Have you actually read ‘Use of Surgical Masks in the Operating Room: A Review of the Clinical Effectiveness and Guidelines’. it? Here’s what is says:

    [MORE]

    “Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide a physical barrier between bacteria of oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal origin and an open patient wound. Wearing a SFM in the OR is one of many long standing preventative practices”

    Why condemn “preventative practices”, geo? Want more people killed? Revolution? What comes after? Geo (first generation Canadian) becomes a minister to some new Führer?

    You previously criticized US immigration diversity (Greeks not included) fomented by Jews. Now, pandemic times, you bolster a case against masks to promote widespread disuse? Breath deep sans mask? Ottawa truckers, with neocon tool Ilana Mercer’s efforts, wanted to hold 96%+ vaccinated hostage: 4% want to rule 96%? For what?

    The same ‘freedom convoy’ crap followed in the US, petering out when objectors couldn’t manifest the reason for their protest. Anger chasing a cause?

    Isn’t your real struggle nihilism (throw a spanner into the works to see what happens) dressed-up as high-minded ‘libertarian doctrine’, ‘defense of freedom’ or some other ‘prescient alarm’ nonsense?

    Passive-Aggressive little Senator Randy Paul does this all the time, oft calling for the arrest and imprisonment of people he doesn’t like, eviscerating blue state ‘socialists’ while Kentucky leads the way in federal welfare (receiving \$63.2 billion more from the Feds than paid in taxes, \$2.89 for every dollar paid, \$14,153 per capita for every Kentuckian -man, woman, child). Welfare Randy Paul demonizes ‘socialist’ blue states that pay his bills.

    Visited Rhodes 1981 and 1983. Hope you got to Lindos (special). Kamiros not so much. Cos was nice. Cnidos (deserted) better. Genius endures.

    Stay well geo.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  301. Biff K says:
    @Biff K

    The virus is capable of causing myocarditis. Not just the vax. It is not a naturally derived virus. It produces many of the same things the vax does – in most cases, apparently not in such huge amounts, as the vax does.

    Read up? Why? Just to get further bowlshitted?

    What I stated above is somewhat obvious to those in some medical specialties. Way over the head of techie clerks.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  302. Ron Unz has major balls for even openly contemplating that the U.S. gov’t could have had a role in the intentional creation and spread of the covid-19 virus. He uncovers some curious coincidences BUT, imo, his conjecture falls short in one particular area, and majorly so. From the time I read his thesis, this stuck out to me. That is, that there would be some higher up in he U.S. gov’t, appointed by Trump, who would be willing to take on his shoulders the killing of potentially millions of innocent civilians. Let’s say the intent of this alleged biological warfare was to only make sick the Chinese populace, it still would not be accepted in any way, shape or form by the world at large, let alone the American people. Talk about an act of war. Now, the argument will be that the whole thing was to be kept a SECRET, therefore those authorizing it would never face judgement. But how many things can the U.S. gov’t keep secret? Maybe some, but much doesn’t remain classified forever, or even for long. Whoever authorized it, if found out, would go down in history as the worst human that ever lived – worse even than the WWII baddies. That bad. Setting aside how it would be possible for the top guy (Trump) to be left out of the loop, would a Bolton or a Pompeo (2 names mentioned by Unz) – slimy though they are – really be up to such an act? And, obviously, it wouldn’t just be one guy, but some bureaucrats and technicians would have to be in the know as well, even if only a few. Several people signing up to be potentially the greatest mass murderers in history, in peace time? Doesn’t add up.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @orchardist
  303. @Ron Unz

    Good debating points at least, I concede. But my back up team would work their search fingers and imaginations fast so as not to leave me speechless. I have read the links with interest.

    The mishaps for American agriculture in the early Cold War period may be distinguished IMO by reference to the need for Cold War solidarity but also because there is unlikely to have been outrage at having been deceived. Also the age of loud-mouthed moral psturing and activism hadn’t quite arrived.

    The Flight 800 case is more complex. On the one hand, accepting your account of the MSM cover up and the monstering of Pierre Salinger as a fair account I would, on the one hand, extend my surprise to the absence of NYT, Time and Newsweek insiders breaking ranks to write up scandalous suppression of the truth. On the other, it is not clear who would be the sort of person to be the whistle blower of the kind I have presupposed, I.e. someone outraged by the deception. Covering up for the Navy or one’s mates who may have fired the missile might be regarded as honourable despite the celebrity of an Edward Snowden. Apparently, as a commenter has pointed out, there were a couple of Navy blabbermouths but not perhaps of the calibre of operative who could not only tell a good length thriller story but arrange to cash in on it too (as I have supposed of the Biowarfare attack people, though perhaps not motivated by money – again Cf Edward Snowden – and Chelsea Manning for that matter). Mention of Chelsea Manning adds the thought that one relatively easy way to expose the truth would be to arrange for allegedly hacked emails to go to Wikileaks or equivalent.

    I’m not sure what to make of the potential whistle-blower being conscious of all the American Covid deaths as something he would be blamed for. It could be the very factor that causes him most outrage. One person’s spouse would say “don’t touch it” but another would double one’s outrage and say “no one can blame you: you have been used by those cynical bastards”.

    Time will tell. What advance would you recommend demanding “doing well by doing good”.

  304. Ron Unz says:
    @Frank Walus

    But how many things can the U.S. gov’t keep secret? Maybe some, but much doesn’t remain classified forever, or even for long.

    That sounds plausible, but actually there are many, many things that happened in the past that are ignored by our media and therefore almost totally unknown to nearly all Americans. Given this pattern of past cases, my Covid analyses becomes much less implausible.

    You might want to read through some of my long American Pravda series:

    https://www.unz.com/page/american-pravda-series/

    Here’s a very simple starting point:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-destruction-of-twa-flight-800/

    And here’s another one:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  305. @Wizard of Oz

    You are remarkably unconcerned that a cheap, very, very, safe, and highly effective, (even in late stages), medication has been slandered from the beginning, lied about, its clinical users vilified and traduced, its use banned, its importation banned, its dispensing banned, and fraudulent ‘trials’ used against its effectiveness, while experimental gene therapies masquerading as ‘vaccines’ have been pushed on the public, even to the point of ignoring the Nuremberg Principles, the WMA’s Helsinki Declaration and the UNESCO principles of medical bio-ethics, in making them mandatory. In the process causing millions of preventable deaths, SO FAR. I don’t doubt that you do move in elite circles, because you plainly have the morality to succeed there.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  306. @Achmed E. Newman

    Beijing is Chinese, Pekin (surely) is Western. I’ve made my choice. The Chinese names are more euphonious because they are not uttered with racist contempt and condescension. Using old, Western, names gives Western supremacists an opportunity to reminisce fondly of the good old days, of coolies dragging fat White ubermenschen to the park, where ‘Dogs and Chinese are banned’.

  307. @Ron Unz

    Well, there’s absolutely overwhelming evidence that TWA Flight 800 was accidentally shot down by the US military in 1996, and more than 25 years later not a single insider has come forward to blow the whistle:

    But if the moon landings were faked, somebody would have come forward to blow the whistle…

    That would be just too much, I guess…

  308. @mulga mumblebrain

    If you are right then proving it would be a great service to mankind and it seems reasonable, given where your political sympathies evidently lie (or wriggle, which might suggest a properly sceptical attitude to traversing this vale of tears) that you should look to the Chinese for proof.

  309. @mulga mumblebrain

    The last time I heard Peking used was by the 50-60 ish Hong Kong Chinese wife of a US East Coast businessman. How do you explain the retention of Peking in some business and institutional names. In India I doubt very much that there is any zealous attempt to change the name of, for example, the Bombay Cricket Club or the Bangalore Club….

    Do you say Roma when speaking English to Italians or München for Munich to Germans, Wien for Vienna to Austrians, or Paree for France’s capital?

  310. @Biff K

    You wrote:

    The virus is capable of causing myocarditis

    How much are they paying you to repeat MSM talking points ?

    In the unvaxxed year of 2020 when the virus was ripping through first China, then Italy and Iran, the New York/New Jersey region of the U.S and so forth, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF MYOCARDITIS as an effect of the virus.

    It was only after a significant proportion of the gullible masses were vaxxed in 2021, did we see an explosion of myocarditis – especially among young and fit males.

    Yes, we’ve all heard the stories being propagated by the Zio owned or controlled MSM/Big Pharma/western Health bureaucracies that this explosion of myocarditis cases are caused by the virus.

    Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they ?

    They’re certainly not going to let the Covid ‘vaccines’ take the blame. After all, there’s no money to be made from vaxx hesitancy.

    • Replies: @Biff K
  311. Sparkon says:

    The issue with Pekin, Peking, and Peiping instead of Beijing is related mostly to the challenges of transliteration, on the one hand, and on the other, the fact that most Westerners, especially Brits and Americans, are terrible linguists. We know these chaps will try to Anglify all foreign names, and as a result of their ineptitude with languages, we’ve ended up with Pekin, Canton, and Moscow.

    But Pekin is something of a special case. The largest and most famous Pekin is in Downstate Illinois just south of Peoria on the Illinois River. Up until 1980, the Pekin high school team was known as the Chinks, an all-white team in an all-white town that won IHSA boys state basketball championships in 1964 and 1967.

    A headline from the Pekin Daily Times after the Pekin Chinks defeated the Cobden Appleknockers for the IHSA boys basketball championship in 1964 reads.

    [MORE]

    “CHINKS NO. 1
    Pekin Roars Its Praise For Mighty Chinks”

    But did you know there are small towns named Pekin in both Indiana and Ohio? Beyond that, Dearborn, Michigan and Paducah, Kentucky were both founded on/near settlements originally known as Pekin.

    The fascination with Pekin stems, I suggest, from an ignorant belief among early settlers that the American Midwest was on the opposite side of the globe from Beijing, i.e. if you tunneled through the Earth from Pekin, you’d end up in Beijing.

    It’s not hard to imagine the BS artists of yore plying their trade on the long voyages across the Atlantic, or around a thousand campfires in the Alleghenies.

    “It is speculated, and a common legend in Pekin, that the city was so named by Mrs. Cromwell on the belief that the site was exactly opposite the site of Peking, capital of China.”

    https://amp.pekintimes.com/amp/63862640007

    In truth, as anyone with any facility with geographical coordinates could quickly determine, the site “exactly opposite” Pekin, Illinois is in the middle of the Indian Ocean, about 1500 miles west of Perth, Autralia and nowhere near Beijing, China. or anyplace else, as we say, waaay out there, in the middle of nowhere, and coincidentally, the area where MH370 is thought to have crashed.

    There are a number of articles about the Pekin Chinks, several of them introducing further mistakes, such as:

    It wasn’t until 1981 that Pekin High School in Chicago, Illinois [sic] realised it was inappropriate to nickname its various sports teams the Chinks, a slur used to describe Chinese people.

    https://www.businessinsider.in/slideshows/miscellaneous/these-are-10-of-the-most-controversial-offensive-sports-team-names-in-history-and-the-stories-of-how-they-came-about/slidelist/74288834.cms#slideid=74288847

    And from Reddit:

    This is probably the worst way to pay tribute to your town’s Chinese heritage [sic]…

    [Reddit link will not post here without xxx prefix, rendering it useless. Look it up yourself, or take my word for it]


    Psst: the airport code for Los Angeles International airport is LAX, which is a good start for either XLAX or LAXATIVE, entirely fitting for a place where the world poops out its brains through the “plastic a-hole of the universe.”

    NB: I have been experiencing delays before the EDIT button appears, commonly leaving me just over a minute to correct or delete my comment. This is my third fourth go-around trying to remove all typos, broken links, etc. from my comment before committing it to publication, and so if I don’t get it all this time or next, it’s not for lack of trying.

  312. @mulga mumblebrain

    “The Chinese names are more euphonious…”

    No, most obviously that’s NOT the case, unless English isn’t your first language.

    Using old, Western, names gives Western supremacists an opportunity to reminisce fondly of the good old days, of coolies dragging fat White ubermenschen to the park, where ‘Dogs and Chinese are banned’.

    Of course I’m a Western Supremacist. Why would you expect otherwise?

    You don’t understand that old sign, do you? (Again, probably not your first language …) Note, “Dogs AND Chinese”. They meant dogs AND Chinese at the SAME TIME. They didn’t want the dogs to be taken for wedding banquets and such… See, dogs could go to the park, and Chinese people could go to the part, but not at the same time.

    BTW, the Wizard put it pretty well. Americans don’t go telling residents of other countries how to pronounce our place names.

    I’ll say “Peking”, and I’ll say “Canton”, and there is precisely squat-all you can do about it.

    • Agree: SBaker
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  313. @Wizard of Oz

    Where did I imply that the “admired” (thanks!) CDC or CPC (for that matter) would need to get involved in ANYTHING? There’s no reason a group of consumers, maybe specifically ivermectin consumers, could make their own study, as they would have the most interest in it obviously.

    Is there some reason you think Government must get in involved in everything?

    There’s that Statist thinking again. I wipe my own ass, BTW. How do they do it down under? (Never been, unfortunately…)

  314. Incitatus says:

    How will History judge the brilliant narrow originality of self-espoused genius software developers reaping ridiculous rewards while destroying the economy (e.g. rating subprime mortgages triple A ala Moodys 2007-08), then helping spread seditious nonsense?

    The resultant concentration of wealth (robbery) affords leisure and websites like Unz Review, dedicated to the sponser’s every pet project, his every whim, his dilettante interpretation of history. Not because he has any historical expertise (he’s published no peer-reviewed books; only articles on his own web site – what a surprise!). But only because he helped Moody’s rape Americans of \$7 trillion 2007-08.

    That’s who Ron Unz is.

    Sad.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @SBaker
  315. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Why condemn “preventative practices”, geo?

    I’m all for preventative practices when they make sense. A surgeon wearing a mask to prevent infecting an open wound makes eminent sense. A surgeon wearing a mask when shopping at Walmart makes no sense. See the difference?

    What comes after? Geo (first generation Canadian) becomes a minister to some new Führer?

    New Führer? I promote the use of common sense behaviours and practices and this makes me the prospective leader of the fourth Reich?

    You previously criticized US immigration diversity fomented by Jews. Now, pandemic times, you bolster a case against masks to promote widespread disuse? Breath deep sans mask?

    I’m impressed, Incy. Only you would link these two totally totally disparate issues.

    Isn’t your real struggle nihilism…

    Nihilism? As you know, my struggle is convincing a sufficient number of normies that the ADL was pushing a Big Lie when they coined the tagline, Diversity Is A Strength. For centuries people understood that homogeneity was a strength – having a common language, religion, heritage – but after significant gaslighting, people were convinced that drinking poison is good for them.

    Welfare Randy Paul demonizes ‘socialist’ blue states that pay his bills.

    Not a big fan of either Rand Paul or libertarianism. I’m an ethno-nationalist, remember?

    Genius endures.

    It does, indeed.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  316. @Frank Walus

    Try wrapping your head around Project Azorian for some mind-boggling secrecy.

  317. Apologies to other people who are already on top of this and making efforts to publish it.

    OK, here’s some information that might otherwise give Mr. Unz a cerebral encephalopathy in the absence of his capacity for sidelining counter-narrative speculations around the fake Corona Chan “vaccines”…

    [MORE]

    https://www.brighteon.com/2b090826-787f-4d03-9f78-a1a80d3fe767

    Yes, folks, if Dr. Ardis is right, then the fake Corona Chan “vaccines” are indeed designed to f*cking kill you.

    In a nutshell, forcing your own body’s cells to generate snake venom inside your body in perpetuity until you are dead.

    Note also the claim that Remdesivir is literally powdered Cobra venom.

    For those that need to be prompted, can you grasp the depth of evil required to plan, develop and implement such a scheme?

    The public face of this diabolic evil is one unassuming inconsequential door-to-door shoe salesman named Klaus Schwab, and his tens of thousands of personally mentored Globalist stooges now entrenched into every level of governmental and corporate beauracracy across the planet.

    On the plus side, if Dr. Ardis is right, then the cure for the fake Corona Chan “vaccines” is anti-venom. That’s right, a cure for the fake Corona Chan “vaccines” – snake anti-venom.

    The downside is that victims will probably be on a course of anti-venom for a very long time, possibly for the rest of their natural lives.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  318. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Yeh, I am not voting in the election. I already have penned my response to them when they send me the “please explain” shit and fine me. I have withdrawn consent to be governed by these crooks. They’ve breached our laws, Constitution, International Treaties which are embedded in our laws and they are demanding to dictate to me over my God given rights of freedom, free agency and free movement. The system is illegitimate and the government is an illegal tyrannical rogue regime. I shall not vote within a system I refuse to recognise and demand it be torn down and we start again. REVOLUTION! Their laws are not mine anymore. Fuck them. I am quite prepared for any consequences of this decision and am not afraid to die for my principles. Anybody thinking to try and get me off this hill, better kiss their families good bye that morning, because they may not be coming home alive.

  319. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Klaus Schwab a shoe salesman? I thought he was created at Disneyland. He appears to be the perfect Nazi villain type. So over acted, I mean the accent? that only kids could believe it’s a true villain. he’s really just a nice old man wearing the Dr Evil suit surely.

  320. Klaus Schwab a shoe salesman?

    I know, would you buy shoes from this man?

    Yet Mr. Unz, bless his eccentric heart, assures me that this is the case.

  321. @Rabbitnexus

    REVOLUTION!

    Agreed.

    We’ve got a real battle ahead of us.

  322. Biff K says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    In 2020 there was no mention of ANYTHING! Still isn’t much of anything.

    Myocarditis mixed with interstitial pneumonitis is what causes the cardiopulmonary collapse that puts those people on respirators. And the virus does just that. The vax spits out much of the same stuff the virus does (a real stupid idea)

    Digging for autopsy reports on COVID cases in 2020 and 2021 they are rare as hen’s teeth. Why? Don’t ask me. I’d require it. But I’m retired now and the girls and their administartor buddies are now running the show. Most of the autopsy reports I managed to find look like they were written by 5th graders. If you haven’t performed 1200+ medical autopsies, you wouldn’t get it.

    And by the way myocarditis is an autopsy diagnosis 95% of the time. Anything else is just guessing and is a diagnosis of exclusion.

    You apparently spend a lot of time watching MSM. Good for you. I shut the TV off 17 years ago. Never looked back. Who’s hosting The View these days? (asking for a friend)

  323. @Achmed E. Newman

    My suggestion was for MM who would have the state do it. Leaving it to consumers would have entirely missed the point I was making for him. Can you think of a better suggestion for proving the case for ivermectin – or against it – than mine?

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  324. @Achmed E. Newman

    The State is there to help you find your arse, old chap. Your torch, instruction manual and map are in the mail.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  325. @Incitatus

    Hadn’t he sold out of Wall Street Analytics well before the GFC? Had he done any relevant software work for WSA in the run up to the GFC? I remember him being rather moralistically disapproving of the way Jim Woodhill, an Hbd contributor/correspondent of Polish ancestry, made money in a dodgy way…..

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  326. @Achmed E. Newman

    At least you’re an unapologetic racist-no dissembling here. Your ‘dogs and Chinese’ tripe is pure invention.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  327. @Been_there_done_that

    Do you know of any body or bodies which have promulgated rules, even if only among scientists, for limiting the kind of variants which may legitimately be produced by gaun of function or other experimentation? Some general ethical rules? Some specific limitations on physical phenomena used or created?

  328. @Mark Hunter

    If you have a deeply ingrained prejudice that unclear writing raises suspicion of unclear thinking behind it I’m with you.

  329. @Ron Unz

    Our discussion of the likelihood of whistle blowing emerging when needed prompts me to raise my long held view that the whistle blowers who are caught and punished must often be naive, perhaps ill disciplined or stupid.

    Surely they must have considered finding out what the relevant law is. And wouldn’t they at least have heard of legal professional privilege. At the very least they could find some public interest lawyer to act pro bono and send such a blast of letters and emails making inquiries that crucial information would have to reach fresh air (actually rather foetid partisan air probably).

    In the case of an outraged deceived subordinate operative for such people as Bolton and Pompeo – so loveable and well loved – a little ingenuity would surely have emails hacked or “accidentally” sent to the wrong address which quite blandly disclosed the truth as, just for one of many examples, “I think it was you who said that once we were sure that Bolton or his chief of staff had deceived us into doing great harm to our country by way of a supposedly authorised mild disease outbreak in China that you would make sure Congress or the FBI knew. Is that right and is that what you think now when the truth is clear?”

    My irony about Bolton’s liveability is only to draw attention to how little loyalty to Pompeo or Bolton could be expected.

    Would the deceived in the case of Covid 19 have been naive ingenue? It seems unlikely. But capable of moral indignation? Yes.

  330. @mulga mumblebrain

    “Chap”, “Arse”, and “Torch”. See, that’s what I mean. Where’d you get your English from?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  331. Sparkon says:

    Where oh where was your beloved [MORE] tag Unz, when Truth Vigilante was posting his scurrilous, libelous lies about me in his comment #215?

    Growing up in a Jewish household, you probably have no concept of fair play, like most Jews, but you should understand the concept of libel, which you seem to encourage.

    Definition. Libel is a method of defamation expressed by print, writing, pictures, signs, effigies, or any communication embodied in physical form that is injurious to a person’s reputation, exposes a person to public hatred, contempt or ridicule, or injures a person in his/her business or profession.

  332. Sparkie, are you still sulking over the fact that I posted that video of you taking photos of little girls in supermarkets in comment # 215 ?

    I urge all UR readers to watch that three minute video and observe firsthand the sort of mentality that the perpetual mask wearers have.
    These people are the sort that snitch on neighbours, that obsequiously follow the dictates of their wise government overlords.

    The chronic mask-muzzlers and multiple jabbers, never achieved anything of substance in their lives. But, by taking others down, by reporting them to the authorities or disrupting the lives of others, they think they can raise their stature in RELATIVE TERMS if those around them fall.

    We’re dealing with some sick puppies here – these masked-up meddlers.

  333. SBaker says:
    @Incitatus

    Good one. I still enjoy seeing how easily Ron convinces other people, especially those here from some 3rd world dumps, and a few from 1st world civilizations.

  334. Like the fake war in Ukraine it’s a fake pandemic, unfortunately, they don’t care if people have to suffer.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  335. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “I’m all for preventative practices when they make sense. A surgeon wearing a mask to prevent infecting an open wound makes eminent sense. A surgeon wearing a mask when shopping at Walmart makes no sense.”

    Wearing a mask during an airborne pandemic, operating theatre or Walmart, seems prudent. Imagine pest control in London 1666 dealing with “black death” plague – should they just concentrate on exterminating rats/fleas in surgical suites as if that’s the only venue?

    “I promote the use of common sense behaviours”

    Are you sure? Absolutely sure? One might equally think protecting oneself was default “common sense”. Aside from which, why do you feel the need to “promote the use” of anything?

    “my struggle is convincing a sufficient number of normies that the ADL was pushing a Big Lie when they coined the tagline, Diversity Is A Strength.”

    LOL! Really? ‘Mein Kampf’? No love for the ADL or diversity, but it seems you – on the other side of the coin – make your bacon arguing the opposite. Maybe normal people – “normies”- are bored by both sides?

    And yes (my opinion), at its core, it’s nihilism – throw a spanner into the works and see what happens. Doesn’t matter what ‘philosophy’ either side uses. It’s a throw of the dice. Same ethos as those comfortably bored by the status-quo (‘is this all there is’?) 1912-14 who cheer-leaded themselves into world war.

    “For centuries people understood that homogeneity was a strength – having a common language, religion, heritage – but after significant gaslighting, people were convinced that drinking poison is good for them.”

    A statement so broad it’s meaningless. What people? Royal houses that married their cousins? Hemophilia? Witlessness?

    Stay well geo.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  336. Incitatus says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “Hadn’t he [Unz] sold out of Wall Street Analytics well before the GFC?”

    Indeed he did, to rapacious Moodys (2006; fellow Harvard grads?). Boom days of CountryWide ‘NoDoc’ mortgages (gardeners buying \$700k houses in CA). Was there a ‘snuff date’ to the Ron’s miracle software?

    Why didn’t Ron’s software (if worth the millions Ron was paid) predict/warn of the 2007-08 melt-down/theft of \$7 trillion? After all, it’s only by the grace of corrupt political influence (and funds from the US Treasury) Moodys is still in business and there were no claw-backs. Making, as usual, US taxpayers suckers.

    Ron defends himself by saying Microsoft Excel was far more responsible. Not the strongest defense. How much did Moody’s pay Microsoft?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  337. @Incitatus

    I don’t even know why Ron’s software, developed in the 80s and 90s though no doubt updated SHOULD have predicted the GFC. But then I don’t understand how the Obsma Administration could extract so little from Wall Street executives, boards and shareholders for the public purse and do so little for mortgagees.

    I hope Ron will give us chapter and verse on the first point.

  338. Sparkon says:

    …are you still sulking over the fact that I posted that video of you taking photos of little girls in supermarkets in comment # 215 ?

    No, I’m still calling you a lying sack of shit, TV, but keep it up. It’s your credibility, if any, that’s going right down the drain, and you are pulling Unz Review down with you.

    It seems to be the the SOP of the bad guys these days to make wild, scurrilous and entirely false accusations, so your ugly chirping here identifies you as one of those shit birds, TV.

  339. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I hope Ron will give us chapter and verse on the first point.

    Well, it’s fortunate that I happened to notice this discussion…

    My impression is that “Incitatus” is just some deranged pro-Israel activist. He always used to harass Phil Giraldi until he got banned, and now I guess he’s harassing me and maybe others instead. He actually made a very similar attack against me last month to which I responded at the time:

    https://www.unz.com/article/why-nazis-in-ukraine/#comment-5241353

    With regard to the software I’d built, here’s the closing two paragraphs of the 2014 Slate article describing my Minimum Wage project:

    In Washington? That’s easy—conservatives don’t need to “go for” anything. The national Republican Party is pretty confident it can win in 2014 by reminding voters that Obamacare exists. Unz is giving them a chance to endorse something else, something voters identify with liberals, and compete for working-class votes on positive terms. It’s a tool, like the software he developed, the stuff that allowed quants to chop up mortgages into securities.

    “Frankly, I used to always tell all my Wall Street clients that all my software did was to produce financial outputs based on the inputs they themselves provided, and I just couldn’t see how anyone could ever predict the correct inputs,” says Unz. “They said: Don’t worry about that—we’re paying millions of dollars to all these research experts to decide what the correct inputs should be. I told them I was pretty skeptical about that, but I supposed it was their business.”

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/01/ron-unz-the-california-libertarian-multimillionaire-is-pushing-a-minimum-wage-hike.html

    Basically, most firms on Wall Street designed their securities using incredibly complex Excel spreadsheets, but some of them instead bought the software I built, which was much more flexible and user-friendly.

    Anyway, there’s a whole series of MSM profiles of my background and past activities on this website:

    https://www.unz.com/masthead/#who-is-ron-unz

    Since “Incitatus” just rants and raves in a rather repetitive manner, never contributing anything of substance, maybe I’ll just get rid of him once and for all.

  340. @Incitatus

    Insect-us, still up to his old tricks and trying to flog a dead horse in his persistence to convince people that face masks are effective in preventing transmission of aerosolised viruses that are measured in nanometres.

    Insect-us, do you understand what a a nanometre is ? It is one BILLIONTH of a metre and coronaviruses are measured in nanometres.

    No one is denying that in Asia, where face masks were predominantly worn in a significant proportion of the citizenry before the Covid Psyop, that they were useful in filtering out potentially harmful particulate matter that was being produced by industries in countries with lax pollution regulations.

    [MORE]

    I’ve already posted [in UR – on a couple of occasions] the 37 page pdf from the internationally acclaimed Dr Vernon Coleman that is titled ‘Proof That Face Masks Do More Harm Than Good’ that emphatically demonstrates that face masks cause MUCH MORE HARM than any infinitesimal gain they’re likely to yield.
    Needless to say, you were too lazy to read it or it was a case of information overload for your tiny brain, which can only absorb three second sound bytes from the corrupt Zio owned MSM.

    So, for those of you with child-like attention spans like Mr Incite-us, here is something brief from the well respected Dr. Mark Sircus:

    https://drsircus.com/general/mask-madness-the-death-of-science/

    From the article above:

    A vast swath of the populace has a borderline psychotic belief that a thin piece of cloth will save them from COVID flu, which will not kill 99.9% of Americans.
    One clear example of mask-induced mental illness is seen in a report that an extremely tolerant, mostly peaceful journalist named Kurt Eichenwald who wanted to beat an anti-masker to death.

    He tweeted: “It’s at a moment like this that I want to find an anti-masker and beat them to death. Since they believe they have the right to kill others, they have surrendered any right to object.”

    As Dr Robert Malone, the pioneer of the mRNA technology of the Covid ‘vaccines’ says, we have a case of Mass Formation Psychosis in society and, as is evident from the baseless assertions from commenter Insect-us regarding the efficacy of wearing these face nappies, we have amongst our midst here in UR a genuine PSYCHOTIC, such is his obsession with face masks and enriching his Big Pharma sponsors.

    Meanwhile, for those propagandists here in UR who still believe there is no link between the clot shots and the rise in mortality, here’s a gentle reminder of what happened last year when Israel introduced the first booster shot (Dose 3):

    The exponential rise in mortality is crystal clear. Only a FOOL wouldn’t draw the appropriate inference from that data.

  341. @Wizard of Oz

    Let me explain it for you, Wizz. Obama is a product of the Chicago Jewish community. Did you read ‘Obama and the Jews’ by Pauline Yearwood, from the Chicago Jewish News, October 24, 2008, as I recommended?
    Obama’s biggest ‘contributors’ were Wall Street, where Jewish ‘influence’ is, let us say, not unknown. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you. You see, a simple problem with a simple answer.

    • Agree: Rabbitnexus
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  342. @9/11 inside job

    The ‘next’ pandemic (probably bird ‘flu, improved)will ‘..get their attention’, said Bill Gates, grinning broadly, as did his wife.

    • LOL: Rabbitnexus
  343. @Ron Unz

    Thanks Ron. I’ll take all that on trust without following up the leads and links for the time being. But don’t purge Incitatus- although I could understand your protecting readers with a warning red band round his posts if you felt so strongly. I admit to liking his early posts in part because he had chosen such a witty moniker. He was/is, also obviously well read on the pre WW2 period and WW2 and sometimes put down rather effectively some of the ignorant loonies in whom the mere thought of Jews causes barking on UR. But, yes, I do see where you may have drawn inferences from about his ethnicity and connections to Israel. I hadn’t thought of that.

  344. @mulga mumblebrain

    Can you explain without volleys of abuse why this article doesn’t mention ivermectin despite no appearance of the writer lacking scientific knowledge about what needs to be done about Covid 19 as a matter of public policy?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/12/herd-immunity-covid-reinfection-virus-world

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  345. @mulga mumblebrain

    I’ll put it on my reading list. Of course Obama was probably out of hid depth in handing GFC issues. I wonder who held his hand in the Administration and looked after Wall Street.

  346. Bruno says:

    It also could be that elements fr the military wanted to test their viruses. I heard that in 2009 with H1N1 , the epidemic came from a USA military test.

  347. @Wizard of Oz

    Well, Wizz, first of all it is the Guardian sewer, fully operated these days by the globalists, MI6 and the UK Jewish Board of Deputies, through their stooge, Assange’s persecutor, Keir Starmer. Second, the author is, in my opinion, a rather obvious BigPharma stooge. I believe she speaks of the gene therapy ‘vaccines’ as ‘safe and effective’ or something like that. Both incorrect, whether out of ignorance or service to power, I do not know. IVM’s use would, among other things, negate one of the requirements for Emergency Use Authorisation in the USA for Pfizer’s mRNA toxins, ie that there be no available alternative medication that could be used in CoViD 19 cases.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  348. @Ron Unz

    Talking of lies and BS

    Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) tweeted at 6:26 am on Thu, Apr 14, 2022:
    Meanwhile on Russian state TV: head of RT Margarita Simonyan remembers her days as a proud pioneer drummer, demands less freedom, more censorship—just like China or the USSR. “We’re all waiting for this,” she claims. https://t.co/gnaGrl7tBF
    (https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1514339222118883334?t=lPY-Wk8BnZ67itzUKT9nlg&s=03)

  349. Interesting bit of theorising here:

    https://rumble.com/v10mnew-live-world-premiere-watch-the-water.html

    more details in this one



    Video Link

    The facts do seem to align quite neatly with the theory being put forward.

    If the theorising is correct then what is being perpetrated is biblical in the scope of its evil. Those responsible, even tangentily, need to be hunted down and removed from the gene pool forever, with absolute prejudice.

  350. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    Cui prodest scelus, is fecit.
    Who profits by a sin has done the sin.
    ~Seneca the Younger, Medea, lines 500-501; (Medea)

    Biological warfare: an emerging threat in the 21st century
    https://news.stanford.edu/pr/01/bioterror117.html

  351. @mulga mumblebrain

    Guardian sewer, fully operated these days by the globalists, MI6 and the UK Jewish Board of Deputies, through their stooge, Assange’s persecutor, Keir Starm

    I am gobsmacked. I am sure the last time I heard such anti Guardian stuff (not entirely unwelcome to someone with my reservations about the Guardian) was that Soros had got control!

    Please elaborate on your version of Guardian control, not a word of which persuades me or speaks for itself. “Globalists”? MI6? The UK Jewish Board of Deputies? Keir Starmer?

    Oh yes, bring down Keir Starmer if he was one of Assange’s persecutors.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  352. @Wizard of Oz

    Or is Margarita Simonyan a super subtle Armenian who thinks she can do more for her cause by hamming up and overstating her new line? Over optimism?

    At least it is saying “you don’t have to believe anything you hear on our MSM”.

  353. @Wizard of Oz

    Christopher Columbus-read the damn thing. It is presently the very epicentre of HYSTERICAL Russophobic hatred so histrionic and deranged that I truly can think of no comparison, in my experience, but the ‘Australian’ of course.
    Do you remember how they worked with Snowden, then after MI5 visited and smashed their hard drives (Slava Freedonia!!)they became MI6 Central, a branch of Integrity Initiative. And how they were Assange’s friends and admirers until the false charges of ‘rape’ in Sweden, whereupon the entire Guardian feminazi maenad witch-pack turned on him as a mob. Or the Skripal lies, the Syria lies and the Putin put Trump in power lies. Or the Evil, Evil, Evil witch-hunt against Corbyn with entirely invented accusations of ‘antisemitism’ leveled at a life-long, even hereditary, friend of Jews. I could go on all day. It is the ‘Manchester’ Guardian you are talking about, isn’t it?
    And do you really not know that Starmer was Director of Public Prosecutions in 2009 when it was decided NOT to prosecute Jimmy Savile, and in 2013 when the Swedish authorities wished to drop the Assange persecution, the Crown Prosecution Service under Starmer e-mailed them to vigorously dissuade them, e-mails that were destroyed in the UK, but recovered from the Swedes.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  354. @Wizard of Oz

    Precisely. In a country at war, with the greatest force for Evil in all history, the USA and its minions, Fifth columnists, traitors and Quislings, in the pay of the enemy, or trained by monster organs of that enemy like the BBC, must be silenced. Open collaboration with a power dedicated to destroying your country, smashing it to pieces and looting it, again, as under Yeltsin, is treason, and not just to Russia, but all humanity, who will be thrown into a New Dark Age if the Great Satan destroys all resistance to its ‘Exceptional’ rule.
    I do love how Imperial hacks like ‘Juliar Davis’ posit that ONLY Russia or China spread ‘disinformation’ . After ‘Saddam’s WMD’, ‘Libya’s Containers of Viagra’, ‘Assad’s ‘gas’ attacks’, ‘Saddam’s ‘human chipping machine’, ‘babies thrown out of incubators’ and the Pentagon’s recent admission that it lied about Russian behaviour, etc, ad nauseam all I can say is that, in my opinion, the creature is barking mad, or has some brass neck! And has the creature NOT noticed the 1000% Groupthink in the Western MSM and the TOTALITARIAN censorship on social media of those arguing Russia’s case? Hypocrisy raised to the power of insanity!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  355. Incitatus says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “I don’t even know why Ron’s software, developed in the 80s and 90s though no doubt updated SHOULD have predicted the GFC.”

    Surely no software can predict the future. But some might be sold 2006 for wildly inflated sums claiming to astutely analyze the value (+/-) of potential investments including mortgages.

    And so it came to be homeless landscapers in the Central Valley got \$750,000 no doc loans from CountryWide that were later rolled into tranches and labeled AAA by Moodys (Ron’s benefactor).

    \$7 trillion in loses later, Ron claims Microsoft Excel was the culprit, pats himself on the back for “my Minimum Wage project”, CA English Only Instruction, (running for CA Senate, Governor, Harvard Board of Governors) etc. Projects enabled by the largess of Moody’s (i.e. bankrupt disposed homeowner) millions.

    Question: Why did Moody’s pay a premium for analytic software that was immanently deficient in monumental theft and national economic melt-down 2007, a year after sale?

    Ron’s best defense – Bill Gates and Excel did it?

    Good luck (keep that bag over your head) Woz

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  356. @Incitatus

    I think Ron has now answered this to the point where I would be inclined to accept that his (a)morality wasn’t different in kind or degree from that of professional tax counsel who answers the question “if we incorporate businesses in both Ireland and Monaaco and make sure all transactions go through both of them is o tax then payable beyond Ireland’s 15% even on profit from sales to the US”.

    Ron says BTW that all his software did was speed up what most people did on Excel and that he doubted Moody’s had got round to using it at all by the time they were ovevaluing and misrating sub prime mortgage packages. I seem to remember that all ratings agencies made the same errors but in fact it was S&P that got sued. How did they and Fitch go about it?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  357. @mulga mumblebrain

    The crucial difference is that Putin has spent many years of effective censorship making it virtually impossible for Russians to hear important truths about Russians killing people whereas there is no totalitarian [sic] censorship in the West which prevents this kind of thing

    being broadcast

    Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) tweeted at 10:42 am on Fri, Apr 15, 2022:
    Kyiv sank ‘Moscow’ and the Russians are furious. In response to the sinking of the warship ‘Moskva,’ state TV pundits and hosts propose bombing Kyiv, destroying Ukraine’s railways and making it impossible for any world leaders to visit in the future. https://t.co/OekII2fbPe
    (https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1514766062771875851?t=cSF42q_M_CUXiVHQ506cWQ&s=03)

    Also interviews with Russian soldiers’ widows who can’t believe the horror stories which are evidently true.

    Thousands of social media pundits like you and hosts like Ron Unz would be jailed inRussia for even calling the war anything but a special operation.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  358. @mulga mumblebrain

    Why do you read the Guardian so much that you know these things?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  359. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Dr Vladimir Zelenko:

    Where is Dr. Ralph Baric from University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill? His government sponsored research bio-engineered the Covid-19 weapon of mass murder. He also developed the antidote to this weapon of mass destruction.

    Why has he not been seen for two years. Not one word or statement from this mad scientist.

    Is he still alive? Is he hiding? Is DARPA protecting him?

    Why haven’t any media platforms in the world tried to interview him? Why has not one platform interviewed his colleagues at UC Chapel Hill? Why has no one tried to get a statement from him outside his house?

    The guy made the weapon that has killed millions and terrorized billions of people.

    Join @DrZelenkoMD

    https://t.me/DrZelenkoMD/1577

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  360. Liza says:

    Corona 19 virus may be mighty contagious, but it’s a problelm only if it lands on a welcoming substrate.

  361. @geokat62

    Excellent comment. Why has not a single Western MSM presstitute ever mentioned Baric, his work or his labs in any forum? Because they are Evil propaganda scum for The Empire. Where, indeed, is he? Under the floor of the new labs at Fort Detrick?

  362. @Wizard of Oz

    Five minutes, daily, Wizz, to see if the rag has gotten worse, and to check the lies and football scores. I was lucky enough to pick up the Australian on Thursday, at a cafe. Un-fecking-readable. Propaganda so rancid it defied belief, and the same imbecile, racist, vicious (in my opinion at least) letters writers as five years, ten years, fifteen years ago. The filthy hate-rag has, apparently, begun a campaign against the Uluru Statement from the Heart, in order to solidify that precious 5% or so of blackfella-haters so precious to all LNP election victories. I expect Morrison to romp in-he suits this country.

  363. @Wizard of Oz

    Quoting your lady love, AGAIN, eh Wizz, you old rogue. No amount of fabricated Western agit-prop is too much for Imperial Stormtrooper (Fifth Class) Wizz. The Moskva, an ancient ship, caught fire due to some accident, as we can see from the safe evacuation of the crew, which would not have happened if hit by cruise missiles. I see Russia did hit Kiev, but not REAL hospitals, mosques, water-treatment plants even dairy farms, like the US in Iraq, or Israel in Gaza or south Lebanon, but a factory making cruise missiles.
    How dare they! It must make your fascist and neo-Nazi idols in Banderastan so MAD, that they’ll have to go off, find some more ‘Russian saboteurs’, torture and murder them, dump them in the street, and say ‘Russia did it’, eh Wizz.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  364. The Gimp says:

    The bio labs excuse is exactly why the “COVID was made in a lab” story was allowed to remain in the mainstream narrative almost from day one, even while being officially ‘denied’.

    Exactly why those Fauci ’emails’ were ‘leaked’.

    Exactly why Russia ‘found’ a zillion ‘bio labs’ in Ukraine.

    Exactly why Nuland “admitted” those labs were real

    Exactly why Hunter’s laptop was suddenly a headline in the mainstream media and all about his involvement with “bio labs”

    All to build the exact narrative this article sells, so that it can be used to justify something like Shanghai.
    The only part of the official COVID narrative that has ever really mattered is that COVID is NEW, DEADLY and SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT.

    Resistance grew when people began to realize this was not true.

    Resistance will therefore likely diminish if people can be freshly convinced it IS true – eg by new waves of stories about “bio labs”
    So when you write justifying stuff about China has no choice blah blah, you are not just promoting known and proven falsehoods about the effectiveness of lockdowns and the reality of the “pandemic”, you’re also helping to promote the new wave of justifying fear porn.
    Well done!

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @JasonT
  365. JasonT says:
    @The Gimp

    Very insightful, but let me complete the analysis.

    [MORE]

    1. Virology is a fake science. Viruses are not alive, that is, the packages of RNA, protein and lipids that are called viruses are not living things. They are conglomerations of molecules held together by electrostatic and van der Waals forces, as well as mechanical intertwining (RNA and proteins are long molecules and can intertwine). Viruses are actually exosomes produced when cells die and the biological molecules of cells conglomerate. Viruses have no agency in and of themselves. The non-living packages that are called viruses may be poisonous in some cases if the proteins in them are deleterious, but viruses do not move around on their own, they do not replicate (despite the assertions of fake virology) and are not infectious in the same way as bacteria or other living organisms.

    2. ‘Viruses’ move around in the same way as any poison. If you inhale poison, you can spew that poison on someone else by breathing out the poison. If the poison is on a surface, you can touch the surface and transmit the poison to yourself. If the poison primarily affects the cells of the respiratory system, touching the poison on a surface and then touching your mouth and nose will transmit the poison to your respiratory system.

    3. When a poison is introduced into your body, your body activates its defense mechanisms (e.g., your immune system) to deal with the poisons. If the poison is present in too great of a concentration, your immune system cannot handle it and you die. If your immune system is compromised (for example by taking the immune destroying drugs that Pfizer and Moderna call vaccines) then the concentration of poison that will kill you is less.

    4. What the U.S. (and Chinese) biolabs are making are poisons, specifically proteins that have a poisonous affect on your body. Gain of function research is dedicated to producing proteins that have specific deleterious effects in the body.

    It cannot be stressed enough that the actual poison is a protein. Polynucleotides are not the poison, polypeptides (proteins) are the poisons. When spreading the poison, the poisoner simply need to deposit the protein in a suitable place, like any other poison.

    5. Once a desired proteinaceous poison is made, it is a simple matter to determine what nucleic acid molecules can be made that encodes that protein in the body. For every amino acid in the protein, there are a number of nucleotide codons (groups of three nucleotides) that code for that amino acid. Because the biolabs start with known proteins from living organisms (and therefore known polynucleotides) it is a simple matter to alter the known polynucleotides to produce ones that produce the poison.

    6. Transfection technology is well known. Transfection involves inserting polynucleotides into cells to be incorporated into the cell’s genome. Once the polynucleotide is incorporated into the cell genome, it uses the cells functions to produce the poisonous protein. This is what the ‘vaccines’ are designed to do – introduce a poisonous protein into your body by making your body produce the protein.

    7. This is the key statement in your post:

    “The only part of the official COVID narrative that has ever really mattered is that COVID is NEW, DEADLY and SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT.”

    It is key, because the whole paradigm of what needs to be done about it is twisted by the fake science of virology. ‘COVID’ is a poisoning event, not an infection. Dealing with a poison is a whole lot different than dealing with a true infective pandemic caused by bacteria (i.e., an actual living organism, not a faux organism which is actually a poison). Poisons by their nature become less of a problem over time due to the dilution of the poison, because the concentration of the poison lessens over time and becomes less of a problem as our bodies’ immune systems can more readily deal with lower concentrations of the poison and cleaning remove the poison from the environment.

    If we deal with ‘COVID’ as a poisoning event, we would be focused on catching and exterminating the poisoners, rather than trying to contain the poison. This is what our poisoners in the WEF (and their stooges in corporations and governments across the world, including the U.N., China and the U.S.) want to avoid.

    9. If you understand the above you will realize that the ‘COVID’ pandemic worldwide is 95% a psyop and 5% and poisoning event to fuel the psyop. The people who populate key health positions in the WHO and national health agencies are bought by the WEF (a small number in my estimation), unskilled in medicine (most senior health officials have no real world experience at dealing with disease or other health matters) or too stupid, arrogant and venal to even question the current paradigm of ‘health’ management taught in today’s medical schools.

  366. @mulga mumblebrain

    Instead of venting about not everyone believing the Russian propaganda versions of everything you might like to try your ability to hear only what suits you by listening to Alexa der Stubb former PM and Foreign Minister of Finland. Try and find in him anything of your Atlantic Council stooges.

    Watch “Putin Past the Point of No Return | Finland’s Fmr PM Alexander Stubb | GZERO World with Ian Bremmer” on YouTube

    As to your account of the flagship Moskva sinking would you care to give reason to accept your account rather than this

    https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/04/neptunes-wrath-flagship-moskvas-demise.html?m=1

    Of course corruption in Russian naval ship maintenance is indeed a possibility that springs to mind though apparently US Intel has confirmed that it was fires started by missiles what dunnit.

  367. @Ron Unz

    More FYI

    At what is at present #383 I have just posted an impressive interview with the Finnish former PM and Foreign Minister whom the rabid ravers about Nazis on UR will find it hard to discredit. Indeed I I think I can repeat the link here

    [MORE]

    Unfortunately Stubb sees no early end to the war.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  368. Incitatus says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Woz,

    Agree Ron Unz is at worst amoral vis-à-vis 2007-08. So, yes, I’m tedious. Why? It’s remarkable one so involved with principle actors has so little to say on the melt-down crisis and vanishing \$7 trillion. Figures as colorful as ‘Suntan’ Angelo Mozilo of ‘NoDoc’ Countrywide. Let alone corporate bailouts and absence of any legal remedy. Did Ron know them?

    [MORE]

    Why isn’t there an ‘American Pravda’ article on the 2007-08 \$7 trillion melt-down and consequences? Could “evil Russian oligarchs” demonized today have American counterparts that continue to suck the US federal tit? People so powerful they command silence?

    Seems more interesting/relevant than reading Reinhard Heydrich was popular (Czechs were happy) because he rode in an open cabriolet. BTW Ulrich von Hassell (married to a Tirpitz) cites Deputy Gauleiter of Sudetenland SS-Gruppenführer Karl Hermann “Frank’s brutal policy of repression” (Tagbücher 22 May 1939). Heydrich (just as bad) showed up later.

    Unz characterizes me as a “deranged pro-Israel activist.” Strange. Why not just call me a nut? Cite anything I’ve posted pro-Israel, con-Israel, or anything about Israel. Doesn’t exist. Is Ron obsessed with Israel, especially as a pejorative?

    “He always used to harass Phil Giraldi until he got banned”.

    True, if “harassment” is confronting an op-ed DC-insider CIA pensioner with medical benefits and 501c3 slush-fund charity Giraldi for never mentioning the CIA in his weekly text explaining world ills. Most of his pieces, by his own admission, fault “Jewish power”, ‘ringing the Jew-bell’ as surely as Salvation Army Christmas appeals to faithful followers.

    Why, I asked myself, didn’t talented Dr. Phil ever mention the CIA (the very source of his otherwise unremarkable life expertise)? Surely they were/are involved in episodes cited? Most of the CIA record and \$50+/year billion budget is black (no oversight). What’s known confirms corruption and incompetence rather than expertise: Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Bay of Pigs 1961, Diem & JFK 1963, MLK & RFK 1968, WTC 1993, African Embassy bombings 1998, USS Cole 2000; WTC & Pentagon 2001, etc. Then there’s Tenet’s “Slam-Dunk” Iraq 2003. We’re still (\$3-6 trillion later in a “pay for itself” war) looking for those WMDs.

    Was asking about ‘CIA power’ and questioning civil-service privilege enough to get banned and the offending post trashed (no fingerprints – nice touch)? Guess so.

    “Since “Incitatus” just rants and raves in a rather repetitive manner, never contributing anything of substance, maybe I’ll just get rid of him once and for all.”

    Questions can add substance. They appear repetitive (“rants and raves”) when un-answered. Interesting a site dedicated to libertarian free speech now seems Stalinesque.

    Stay well Woz and Ron.

    PS. Building in the Arab ME 1975-95 meant acquaintance with State Department and CIA pukes. Most were time servers whose main concern was tax-avoidance and regular European holidays. They were the last go-tos with a local problem (unlike UK Foreign Service).

    PPS. Feel free to “get rid of me once for all” Ron. Great site, loved every minute (well, maybe some less than others). Do what you must to preserve your equanimity. I’ll hold no grudge.

  369. @Incitatus

    That is the sort of contribution
    which adds value to UR. Purging you would be a Putnusque mistake.

  370. @Wizard of Oz

    I’m awfully sorry, Wizz, but anyone arguing that there is not a fascist, neo-Nazi, Banderite problem in Ukraine is either lying, or mad.
    Oh, I see-‘Finland’s pro-NATO former PM’ sayeth the Free Press. High school educated in Daytona, Florida, then a golf scholarship to Furman University in South Carolina. London School of Economics, wife a British lawyer, a backer of the fascist putsch in Kiev in 2014 (NO Nazis!!!???), a supporter of globalism etc. Couldn’t you get anything from Carl Bildt? I recommend everyone read Stubb’s Wikipedia entry-an Imperial stooge, just like Wizz.

  371. @Incitatus

    On reflection I could make a case for Ron being entirely innocent after he had sold to Moody’s, that, in effect, he had washed his hands of Wall Street and given himself to higher things. Bontrast and compare the nerdy Apergerish Michael Burry who did what Ron could have done even more successfully given his running start with the software. I think you’ll find he is the star of “Big Short”, Michael Lewis’s book and film. For the Ron who had bought or was soon to buy The American Conservative and write such important pieces as “The Myth of American Meritocracy I guess he felt he was well out of the boring stuff that gad set him up.

  372. @mulga mumblebrain

    Indeed. I approve of the way you shoot yourself in the foot. I too recommend that people read up on Alexander Stubb in Wikipedia. He’s quite a star.

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  373. aandrews says:

    The Rhodes Scholars Guiding Biden’s Presidency
    While the WEF’s Young Global Leader program has recently become infamous, it follows the model of a much older program and think tank established with the ill-begotten gains of Cecil Rhodes.
    by Matthew Ehret
    March 26, 2022

    The recent, pandemic-ridden years have involved a steep and often traumatic learning curve for many citizens across the Trans Atlantic. One particularly shocking revelation that has ripped virally across the internet in recent days revolves around the revelations that the World Economic Forum’s ‘Young Global Leaders’ have been positioned across western governments and powerful private institutions over the past three decades.

    Videos of Klaus Schwab bragging that Young Leaders have been positioned across the governments of Canada, Argentina, Europe and beyond are now being posted across social media platforms on a daily basis, confirming the suspicions of many that the World Economic Forum is not a benign business networking operation, as it has tried to project for the credulous. Rather, it is something much darker and insidious.

    • Thanks: Emil Nikola Richard
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  374. @aandrews

    Matthew Ehret is so far from having the intelligence, character or knowledge of a Rhodes Scholar that the absurd connection he tries to make falls flat for anyone with the slightest sophistication. Apparently he is unaware of the many different committees around the world that have been selecting them. He would probably be surprised to learn that the surgeon who performed a delicate eye operation on a family member recently in Melboune was born in China (ethnic Han), educated in Australia to first degree then Rhodes Scholar….

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  375. @Ron Unz

    Again FYI knowing that the obsessive Mumblebrain will pick it up and try to wriggle out of the embarrassing evidence that Ukraine obviously needs protection from the Russians without waiting a couple of generations of no censorship to give them a chance to join what passes for Western Civ these days.

    I Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) tweeted at 6:18 am on Mon, Apr 18, 2022:
    Deputy of the State Duma Vyacheslav Nikonov (a grandson of Vyacheslav Molotov) claimed: “In the modern world, we are the embodiment of the forces of good. This is a metaphysical clash between the forces of good and evil… This is truly a holy war we’re waging and we must win.” https://t.co/B8C7ILH1O8
    (https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1515786811825700872?t=Uw4R40Zvnq5SgeAlh223PA&s=03)

  376. @mulga mumblebrain

    I can’t resist speeding thus up for you to rant about

    I Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) tweeted at 6:18 am on Mon, Apr 18, 2022:
    Deputy of the State Duma Vyacheslav Nikonov (a grandson of Vyacheslav Molotov) claimed: “In the modern world, we are the embodiment of the forces of good. This is a metaphysical clash between the forces of good and evil… This is truly a holy war we’re waging and we must win.” https://t.co/B8C7ILH1O8
    (https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1515786811825700872?t=Uw4R40Zvnq5SgeAlh223PA&s=03)

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  377. @Wizard of Oz

    Your girly has found an interesting quotation, one that is, indeed, in my opinion, correct. Those who rule in the West, the globalists, the Exceptionals etc, are, indeed, the greatest Evil in history, and, I fear, the last. Russia may not be perfect, but in comparison it appears like a Shining City of a Hill. Seven Hills in Moscow, I believe.

  378. @Wizard of Oz

    My, my-denying the undeniable. What a doughty foot-soldier for ‘Western Values’, including the crucial mendacity and self-delusion, you are Wizz. The thought that there is a Western over-class calling the shots worldwide is PREPOSTEROUS. Thanks for pointing that out.

  379. @Wizard of Oz

    A Dark Star, Wizz. Make that a ‘minor satellite’. Kerberos, perhaps. How does he differ from a Pinochet, Mobutu, Videla, Savimbi, Batista, Vorster, Thieu or any other Imperial lackey, other than in his insignificance?

    • LOL: Wizard of Oz
  380. @Ron Unz

    More FYI Ron

    This 5 year old interview in the PBS series looking at Putin is quite encouraging for one who laments the appalling fact that the leader of the Western world had the choice between Trump and Biden for President. Blinken comes over as both rational and believing what he is saying IMO.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  381. @Wizard of Oz

    You would say that, wouldn’t you. Blinken comes across to me as a practised liar, who seems either to believe his lies, or is so far gone in that arts of mendacity that he rarely gives himself away. He’s used to getting away with it too, hence his outrage when the Chinese answered his lying belligerence, with truthful belligerence in Anchorage, a real red letter day. To see the Yanks squirming in rageas a mere ‘Chink’ gave them what for was priceless. Ever since 1917 the US/UK attitude toward Russia and the Soviet has been one of unyielding hatred and aggression, particularly since their stooge Quisling, Yeltsin, destroyed the Soviet Union on orders from the USA, and, contrary to promises (as usual)they drove NATO to Russia’s borders.
    As Putin, typically intelligently and honestly, observed, it was the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century because it has led directly to WW3. I assume you have not many years left to loose, Wizz, hence your enthusiasm for obliteration to preserved the Atlanticist reign of ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  382. @mulga mumblebrain

    Well, there we are. If you accept Putin’s view of the greatest geopolitical tragedy and what floors from it may not explain all your comments but it does lead me to ask what you make of Putin’s surely uniquely public bizarre fingr tapping bullying performance at the Security Council meeting he called to rubber stamp his war.

    My take is that it is close to sufficient proof that autocracy in a powerful country is too dangerous to be tolerated lightly. At least Trump was not so uncontrollable.

    I also note that you seem to have a vastly oversimplified view of the way the world is managed (not managed in fact). I wonder if you are the spirit of my 104 year old great aunt who remained a Stalinist to her dying day three years ago.

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  383. @mulga mumblebrain

    You prompted me, by your superficial remarks about Blinken in Anchorage to refresh my memory of the reports.

    This, for example, indicates, as one might suppose,that the public performances were mere froth on the top of serious talks.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56452471

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  384. @Ron Unz

    Decisive surely. Is this fingertapping bullying performance by the dictator of a nuclear armed power not sufficient to conclude that Putin is the uniquely critical element the current proxy war between Russia and the West?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  385. @Wizard of Oz

    What is it with your lying Wizz? Putin was elected, he represents the Russian elite and the cleansing of the neo-Nazi regime is a task undertaken by that ruling elite, and approved by 80% of Russians, who know a thing or two about Nazis. Are you a Nazi yourself, or just an aged fan-boy?

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  386. @Wizard of Oz

    One thing about the ruling US elites is that they regard all other races, cultures and political systems as inferior to the glorious US model. So Blinken abused the Chinese with the usual lies and false accusations, then got all flustered when the ‘Chinks’ dared answer back. I can see how it would enrage you, too, Wizz.

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  387. @Wizard of Oz

    Have you seen ‘Morgan-A Suitable Case for Treatment’? Morgan (David Warner) says of his redoubtable mother (Irene Handl)that ‘Mother refuses to de-Stalinise’. I once spent a few days at Tumut, next to a group of Yugoslavs who had helped build the Snowy Scheme. After some slivovitz, I said something complimentary about Tito. They waxed indignant-‘Tito was a pig-we are Stalinists!’, they rather fiercely declared. Give me Putin’s finger-tapping before Brandon’s somnambulism every day.

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  388. @mulga mumblebrain

    You only deserve to have one item of total BS corrected. So

    Russians, who know a thing or two about Nazis

    I would bet confidently that not even 1% would know that “Nazi” derived from National Socialist and perhaps 1% that they were German in origin.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  389. @mulga mumblebrain

    Hmm. I was ambivalent recently when I was in A& E with an acute attack of Hypochondria ?and a positive RAT) and a smart Chinese (now Australian) nurse told me firmly that Taiwan is part of China. Nothing changes amongst those with racial pride. A student from Hong Kong yonks ago who was doing some gardening for pocket money (with a lot less skill than the average Chinese market gardener who I can still remember in horse and cart in our street) and expressed great pride in China detonating an atom bomb.

  390. @mulga mumblebrain

    Now that’s really careless! Tripped on the logic of your own words!

    the ruling US elites is that they regard all other races, cultures and political systems as inferior to the glorious US mode

    So, US elites do not belong to races or cultures that are not part of the prevailing American political culture and practice. What race would they be? Obama has to be in, like White Trash Clinton. The Congressional Black Caucus? Black and brown heads of investment banks and the McKinseys and Cresaps and Bains? Warren Buffett? All Jews if rich enough?

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  391. geokat62 says:

    Excerpt from BioNTech’s Annual Report submitted to the SEC, March 30, 2022:

    We may not be able to demonstrate sufficient efficacy or safety of our COVID-19 vaccine and/or variant-specific formulations to obtain permanent regulatory approval in the United States, the United Kingdom, the European Union, or other countries where it has been authorized for emergency use or granted conditional marketing approval.

    https://investors.biontech.de/node/11931/html#ic5e06a05a31d4c4491031d3208cef8c2_2822

  392. @Wizard of Oz

    Of course. As you well know, Wizz, the US ruling class comprises a mostly hereditary Anglo-Saxon elite, with a very large, proportionate to total population, Jewish element, particularly in finance and the indoctrination machines, and a smattering of Hispanic, East and South Asians and ‘Black’ Americans, but mostly at lower levels.
    As Chomsky, who I am sure you recognise is an expert on these matters, observed, class consciousness among the US plebs is very poor, after decades of union destruction, one-sided class warfare, mass brainwashing and neo-liberal capitalist measures, but, in contrast, highly marked among the ruling elites.
    And as Gilens and Page showed, politics in the USA is controlled almost totally by these rich elites, with the proles having little REAL power, which is overwhelmingly economic. Moreover, I was speaking of US policy vis-a-vis OTHER countries, NOT within the USA itself, so your ‘gotcha’ is another shot in the foot. Hopalong Wizz, I’ll have to call you, if you haven’t retired to a scooter yet.

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  393. @Wizard of Oz

    Back on the turps I see. I’d better stop picking on you, Wizz. You’re obviously in need of a long sabbatical.

  394. @mulga mumblebrain

    Gilens and Page links please. Sound like my thing as I have been gradually trying to learn how to reconcileeadership of and by the US with values to be supported ever since I articulated my conclusion that the US was not best described as a democracy. I would also be glad to expand my reading from Nacy Isennberg’ “White Trash ….etc” and “Mivhelle ??”‘s The New Jim Crow”.

    Interesting the way the crossovers and confusions of class and race (facilitated it occurs to me by regional accents) have affected Amrrican politics and I would be interested to know who first consciously exploited that.

    As I have noted I observe in Australia that class can easily trump race in the most innocent straightforward way. Do East Asian and half East Asian kids at top private schools suffer bullying unless they are, independently, charmless and dim? No, but you wouldn’t want to expose them to Western suburbs ferals (Sydney or Melbourne).

  395. I went to a private, GPS, school, and Asians were bullied because of their race, by a few future Liberal Party apparatchiki, but befriended by most. Racism in Australia is central to the psychology of, say, 5-10% of the population, and that group is the bedrock of Rightwing electoral success. Hence the undying enmity towards the Indigenous, seen even with ‘liberals’ like Turnbull and his infamous, instant and virulent rejection of the Uluru Statement from the Heart. In my opinion that indicated a personal animus towards the blackfellas, a more calculated, political, rejection would have taken time.
    I don’t do ‘links’, so simply Google it, and you will be surprised by how far and wide it has been discussed, but, really, I could have told them that by simple observation of the news over a few decades.

  396. @SBaker

    Mumblebrain might want to answer the following questions.

    1. Are you involved in some way in the selling and marketing of ivermectin?

    2. Have you or anybody in your immediate family used ivermectin as part of a Covid-19 treatment regime and had outcomes which were markedly better than could have been expected, taking into account factors like general health, age, and comorbidities?

    3. What formal qualifications do you have in infection control, public health, and epidemiology? Does the community you live in regard you as an expert in this field?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  397. @Jonathan Mason

    1) NO.
    2)YES (a cousin). I got fluvoxamine, (after GPs refused me HCQ and IVM), before it too is banned, as well.
    3) As formal ‘qualifications’ these days usually indicate a corrupted ‘professional’, most certainly in pharmaceutical marketeering and profiteering, a general intelligence, ability to discern bull-dust and knowledge of medical/industrial complex corruption more than suffices.
    As you appear to me to either be on the BigPharma payroll as a paid troll, or be that type of person who believes what he is told and follows orders with a swift heel-click, you will not be surprised that I both pity you, and regard you as a menace to others. There’s a lot of it about.

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  398. @mulga mumblebrain

    I told our how ivermectin could be tested effectively and ethically in China and now the outbreak in Shanghai has offered the perfect opportunity to put the large scale test into practice. Have you taken any steps even to suggest to someone or some institution or medium thatcould influence what might be done that. Ivermectin should be tested as I suggested.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  399. @Wizard of Oz

    Is it ignorance or deviousness? IVM has been tested AROUND the world, with great results. That these successes have been ignored, or denied, by Western MSM vermin and other BigPharma stooges (have you been recruited? How’s the pay?)is a major scandal and crime, that has caused hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, all in pursuit of profit (glory to capitalism!!!)and/or something more sinister.
    Have you checked out the Danish study that shows NO benefit in mortality reduction from mRNA ‘vaccines’? The adenovirus vector ones like AZ do deliver positive results, but the glorious Morrison regime has dropped them, despite AZ being made here, and not requiring super-low temperatures in storage. With your connections, who got the back-hander from Pfizer for that LUNATIC decision?

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  400. Evidently Chinese government ministers don’t agree with you about Ivermectin. Is that also because they and their experts are corrupted by Big Pharma?

    True I have had two Astra Zeneca and one Pfizer jabs so you my attribute my experience to the former. But I find it very difficult to believe that the extreme mildness of my case of Covid 19 was not a product of vaccination.

    The apparently strange moving of Australian preference from AZ may have been because of the percentage protection it was said to be providing and the speed at which protection declined. I recall that Pfizer published figures were superior. So the government old simply have been trying to avoid criticism for not having got hold of the Pfizer vaccine earlier.

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  401. aj54 says:
    @Zachary Smith

    the only true solution is to stop the vax and freely distribute ivermectin rescue packs as they did in Uttar Pradesh state in India. The vax ‘tops you up’ with more spike, which is the main bioweapon. The spike has HIV inclusions, and will create misfolded proteins. The spike attacks all vital tissues. It has been photographed inside the nucleus of the cell. The mRNA reverse transcribes and permanently changes your DNA. It silences DNA repair genes that are vital to natural destruction of errant cells, and will allow cancers to proliferate. Omicron has been called an attenuated live virus vaccine. It is very mild and more contagious than measles; there is no need for any further vaccine development. If they keep vaxxing with mRNA, they will drive a new variant to arise that will be more lethal. The vast majority, over 80%, of those currently in the hospital have been vaxxed multiple times. The vax harms your immune system and makes it more likely for you to catch covid, as it has the configuration of a now extinct spike.
    For people who have not been vaxxed, it is possible to get infected more than once, but subsequent infections will be milder, and maybe go unnoticed, and leave your immune system more capable of handling it. NEVER take the vax if you haven’t had it yet. For those who have been vaxxed, get some ivermectin and take it every week to keep down your spike population.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  402. At least tangentially relevant to the whole Covid-19 caper, are some of Whitney Webb’s articles. On her website are two of three promised articles from late 2021. (Perhaps the third exists, but I did not find it.)

    https://unlimitedhangout.com/modernas-hail-mary/

    I see that Webb is a featured writer here. Curiously, the two articles I refer to do not appear at Unz, even though the topics discussed are very relevant to what is treated here. As great an aggregator as he is, I supposed the UR can’t possibly house every article about every conspiracy.

    Comments: Webb’s two articles on Moderna’s extremely odd history, as well as the RFK Jr. Fauci book, remain the two best sources I’ve encountered that all but show the Covid-19 pandemic was planned years in advance. At the very least, all the infrastructure was there, to include suitable viruses paid for by the US government, to respond effectively to — or, perhaps, deliberately help along if needed — the next pandemic.

    I’d like to see an investigation of the competing mRNA jab maker: BioNTech. They may not have been on the ropes as was Moderna, but clearly they gained equally from the manufactured pandemic and the demand, and often mandate, for their products.

    Allow me to emphasize that, unless I missed it, these authors most certainly DO NOT claim the virus was deliberately released. In my personal view, a vast conspiracy seems unlikely; two key arguments against would be the initial reaction of the Chinese, closing up labs, censoring and so forth, as well as Fauci & Co.’s panic ca. Feb. 2020, flurries of emails and quickly two articles denying the virus could have come from a lab. Those smack of normal cover-up. Even so, that of course doesn’t preclude Unz’s rogue bio-warfare conjecture or some other deliberate release. I’ve previously opined that the virus could have been seeded by a lone wolf.

    A deliberate action to start a pandemic would have helped a lot of deep-state actors. Most, if not all the regulatory apparatus was in place waiting to spring into action. Moderna clearly was saved, or at least obtained a stay of execution, once there became a clear demand for their dodgy unproven product(s) with guaranteed government contracts going forward. Money remains the obvious motive, with consolidating or expanding regulatory powers being a close second perhaps.

    What remains fascinating, however, is that much, indeed perhaps most, of the evidence of the infrastructure being in place long before the pandemic is not only not secret, but openly accessible to the public.

  403. @Zachary Smith

    You are one of the curious participants here, Zachary. Part of your message reads like what a typical “Conspiracy Theorist” would agree with. Yet half of it sounds like copy that would have been written by a troll for Big Pharma/Deep State. Allow me to unpack that:

    Is there, in fact, any evidence that MOST people catch SARS-CoV-2 repeatedly? It’s certainly possible; I’m no virologist, but having general knowledge, I’m well aware that it’s quite easy to catch a similar virus periodically. That’s normal for cold, flu and no doubt other infectious disease. It’s no more remarkable than the sun rising tomorrow morning.

    What IS unusual is to catch the identical virus twice. Again, possible, but I suspect very much in the minority. Yes, I will allow that healthy people can and will catch SARS-Cov-2 more than once, or more specifically, its mutations. I will also assume that the overwhelming majority of those who catch the virus suffer few, sometimes no, serious illness? The human immune system is a wonderful thing. It’s also highly effective. If it weren’t, we would all be dead in very short order.

    Two and a half years into the so-called pandemic, it’s likely, indeed probable, that you have caught and fully recovered from a SARS-CoV-2 infection, maybe unawares. If your health is normal, you will have gained strong protection — months, years, perhaps lifetime — against catching the identical strain. Your immune system is also “trained” to recognize close cousins of that recent virus. Again, this is just normal everyday biology.

    Until I see a convincing argument to the contrary, I have no more fear of catching SARS-Cov-2 or one of its bastard spawn, than I am of any other garden variety virus.

    Finally, your call for a new vaccination is tantalizing. I don’t think anyone would deny such a medical product would be a godsend. I note you do include “highly effective” on your list. Unless I missed it, however, “safe” was not present. No matter; allow me to inquire as to just how achievable such a drug would be? I will concede it’s in the realm of the possible, yet harsh reality would tend to say that most such trials are abject failures. Even if a promising candidate were found, would it be any more successful than the current Covid-19 jabs? It’s worth mentioning that these were promised to be highly effective too, yet field experience quickly put paid to those claims. And even if a seeming miracle product arrived, it would (“should”) still require years — YEARS — of Phase 3, 4 studies to prove both safety and efficacy. Again, an old standards most blatantly missing, without exception, for all the “vaccines” and drugs rushed out against the big bad coronavirus. And, it might be added, more many other medications and vaccines that get approved, without convincing proof of safety or even efficacy. I may be too cynical, but it seems that medical research in the US, once considered the world’s gold standard, has deteriorated to the point where if the product doesn’t cause a lot of deaths or dire side effects in the short term, it’s assumed to be safe, given a stamp of approval, everybody cashes their checks and is happy, and knocks off early for a quick one at the local watering hole.

    Devise a safe and effective counter-measure against a coronavirus, which rapidly mutates? A very tall order indeed. I won’t say “impossible,” but I think it ranks up there with the Holy Grail, or a mechanical engineer devising a perpetual motion machine. I wish the researchers success, but preferably not sucking at the taxpayers teat, nor with mandated use of unproven products solely to guarantee a stream of income for big corporations and billionaires.

  404. @DeSelby

    Only to weaken your case a little bit: You make a fundamental error when you note the huge impossibility of random mutations leading to a whole new organism. It’s an error of omission. What is missing? To quote (perhaps imperfectly) biologist Dawkins, “There are more ways to be dead than alive.” He’s referring to the near-infinite possible combinations of the genome (RNA/DNA) organism. The moral is that the overwhelming majority of those combinations would result in an organism that could never live. Looked at another way, only a vanishingly small subset of the possible permutations will result in a viable organism. Random mutations routinely occur; most of them are “don’t care” conditions, neither aiding nor hindering the next generation’s survival fitness. The vast majority of mutations that aren’t inert are deadly. A tiny fraction provide a net benefit, that favors survival of future generations.

    A second factor is simply natural selection. Those random mutations, as well as other factors, such as the chance combination of two different but related viruses (a chimera), will produce a totally new variant with unpredictable outcomes.

    Perhaps look at it this way: There are 8 billion “laboratories” (human bodies) in which the virus can reproduce. Actually, it’s a lot more, because this virus and many others, can use other animals as hosts. In each of those bodies, natural mutations and (less likely) chimera combinations will occur. Natural selection, always in effect, dictates which — if any — of the offspring survive and carry on the new genes.

    Finally, viral reproduction mutates far faster than higher life forms. New traits (and variants) will appear and vanish far quicker than other species.

    None of the above is to say that laboratory viruses are impossible. Of course not. We’ve been playing with them for decades. It’s (in my opinion) a near-certainty that the current “pandemic” began with such a virus. Nothing would preclude other tailored revision of the virus to be tweaked and released. My diatribe is merely meant to show that would not be required; a virus of whatever provenance is perfectly capable of mutating and natural selection guarantees that the fittest are what will be the most successful.

  405. @Achmed E. Newman

    China’s draconian responses (Zero covid policy) such as currently in Shanghai are most odd. That is, if we can believe what we see in the press, which should always be regarded with skepticism. Consider the following: We are well over two years into the pandemic. SARS-CoV-2 was never a major killer. Yes, caution was warranted in the early weeks, since its virulence was not known. But it became clear, or should have anyway, that this was a virus with a fatality rate not much worse than a bad flu. I use the figure of 0.16% (of a population). This is using “official” tallies, which in themselves are (or should be) doubted since they include what should properly be called “deaths with” the virus, not necessarily even being a PRIMARY cause or even a cause at all, of the illness/death. I and others have often made this case against the official statistics, apparently to no avail. Unz continues to trot out the official figures. But again, even conceding him that, this simply was not a very nasty virus, all things considered.

    Pardon that tangent. Getting back to the Shanghai case: what seems very unusual to me at least, is simply that SARS-CoV-2 has mutated into the Omicron (or later) strains, by most reports even less harmful although more contagious than earlier variants. If an already low morbidity and mortality rate trend even lower, a skeptic might inquire just why are the Chinese going to such drastic lengths to stamp out what is essentially a cold virus?

    Something just doesn’t add up. Could the argument be as simple as the authorities are continuing to “train” the populace to be sheep? The same arguments could be made in the west, with the continuing but increasingly discredited, unpopular and increasingly unsupportable measures. This is April 2022, not April 2020. Or is some other sinister aspect in play that China and others are not talking about?

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  406. @Dick O'Toole

    Since it’s already come up a few times, I must speak my piece concerning the “official” Covid-19 statistics. In three words, they are bullshit. There is so much wrong here that entire papers should be (perhaps have been, by now) written about the inaccuracies. Unreliable testing, different standards, upward or downward revisions post facto, incentives to inflate cases (= more \$\$\$ in USA, for instance) or to minimize them for propaganda purposes (e.g. China), all enter in.

    To summarize perhaps: Serious illness or deaths blamed on “Covid-19” are probably overstated by 95% (+/-). If you do a bit of digging into the details, you will find that the typical death is a very old person, often past his nation’s statistical life expectancy. Furthermore, you’ll find that he had one, sometimes several, chronic health conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and so forth. In normal times, these people are not long for this world.

    To claim that they died of “Covid-19” (or, in earlier days, of “pneumonia” or “influenza”) is a crock of shit. It may be a medical formality. These patients may have died of complications of a viral inflection that to most is a minor issue. Even that is often not the case (due to the test giving so many false postives.) No, the vast majority of “Covid-19” deaths were due to frailty of extreme age, of circulatory disease, diabetes, cancer, autoimmune issues and so on. The SARS-CoV-2 virus, if it was even physically present, was at most the last straw on a camel’s back.

    The above claims are not at all hard to suss out. If I can do so, so can others. It’s a sad commentary that so many people believe the official propaganda, and to my dismay, that seems to include a lot of highly intelligent people even in the alternative press who should know better, to include our host here.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  407. @Ben the Layabout

    Great comments all around, Ben the Layabout!

    Regarding this reply to me, I’d say yes, this:

    Could the argument be as simple as the authorities are continuing to “train” the populace to be sheep?

    AND this:

    Or is some other sinister aspect in play that China and others are not talking about?

    Per the posts on Peak Stupidity with input from my China source, Mr. Xi there in Peking has had a long-running power struggle with former-Pres/former-CCP Chief Mr. Jiang. Mr. Jiang has loads of financial power. The picking on Shanghai in particular was/is political. It’s a freaking mess over there right now – some people have been locked in their apartments for 50 days now. This is Shanghai, mind you, the gleaming crown jewel of China.

    Then, from our host or any would-be writers of Unz Review articles on the current situation in China we get:

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    Crickets and
    [MORE]
    crickets.

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  408. @Towey

    Your comments seem right (at least I see no claims I know to be false.) Although it gets away from the topics we’ve been discussing here, however, I just have a few comments:

    I have never heard of any credible refutations of Darwin or of Malthus. NB: when I say “refutation,” I mean of their core arguments. I can’t claim extensive training in those disciplines, but I have at least summary familiarity with the work of both men. Darwin’s claim to fame, of course was his studies and theories about what today we call evolution and natural selection and survival of the fittest. This last phrase is a key to Eugenics. Stripped to its essentials, Eugenics is just the deliberate application of what Nature has been doing since life began. Man has been deliberately breeding plants and animals for thousands of years. He’s also been breeding himself at least as long, albeit haphazardly. This is called by many names, assortative mating is one, but also planned marriages. This is, in fact, informal eugenics. In its modern usage, eugenics implies a more scientific, deliberate method. Note that eugenics may either be voluntary (which most would say is desirable) or coerced (which many, but not all, would call immoral). The latter can, of course be anything from social ostracism, to mandatory birth control, to forcible sterilization, to killing.

    Malthus basically noted that population growth tends to outstrip the supply of food (and by implication, of other needed resources.) Later scoffers think he was “wrong” simply because his dire predictions did not happen. Perhaps. But what about the fundamental arguments? Can a population continue to grow in excess of its needed inputs? Not for long. Was Malthus really wrong, or just early?

    In conclusion, I am playing the Devil’s Advocate here: Darwin and Malthus are both correct, in the sense that their respective hypothesis seem to me at least, consistent with what we know about how the real world operates. Like certain thinkers however, it is the CONSEQUENCES of these theories that leave folks aghast. Alas, whether we like it or not, morality, ethics, law, and so on are strictly the domain of man. Nature cares not the least damn what Man “wants.”

    There is nothing “immoral” or “evil” when Nature has decreed that (say) a Tiger kills an antelope. Why shouldn’t he? Millions of years of evolution has bred each for his biological niche. The tiger is no more at fault than an amoeba is when it engulfs a tasty paramecium.

    Nor is Nature being “thoughtless” just because (say) mice vastly over-breed during a freak abundance of seed grasses, yet the vast majority of them die of hunger when the temporary bounty is quickly exhausted. Nature is simply doing her job if you will, balancing the books according to the immutable underlying laws of the universe.

    Feel free to criticize men for what they advocate (and yes, many famous people did argue for sterilizing the “unfit,” and no doubt even more horrific proposals). But it should be out of bounds to fault thinkers for describing how Nature works, even if we don’t like certain implications of those theories.

    Of course, blase or even willful denial of objective reality seems to be the “in” thing these days, but speaking for myself, I try and avoid people and groups doing that, as it tends to unhappy outcomes.

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  409. @garys3054

    Yours is one of several competing theories on the origin, timing or other details of the virus but, like Ron’s, they often fall short due to certain contrary evidence. For example, let’s assume the virus had indeed been circulating in the USA early in 2019, perhaps an escapee from the infamous Ft. Detrick. Very well. What then, is one to make of several counter-claims, for example:

    1. Why did China go apeshit in December 2019 onward, when it became apparent an unknown virus was circulating in Wuhan, the world’s most famous (even if not sole) location for researching precisely the type of virus that was circulating? Why the sudden cover-up by the government?

    2. Similar arguments: Why did Fauci and his NIAID/NIH regime go crazy in early Feb. 2020, leading to secret meetings and coerced opinions leading to at least two editorials denouncing the lab leak as a “conspiracy theory,” and claiming a natural origin?

    3. I remain skeptical of the claims of multiple early strains, but I admit I haven’t looked at any evidence, and would not be qualified to do so. But how strong is the evidence? Has it been vetted by others?

    4. (Related to 3) If the virus had been widely in circulation, there should be many more traces of it: blood samples, whether routine or not. An “atypical pneumonia”, especially clusters of cases, attracts the attention of investigators. To my knowledge, such doesn’t exist, thus greatly weakening any claim that a super contagious new virus was circulating.

    I’m sorry, but on preponderance of (or equivalently, lack of) evidence, I continue to hold with the release of an engineered virus in Wuhan in late 2019, accidental or not unknowable.

  410. @Sparkon

    Well, why don’t you look up some simple data like the average size of a virus, or the droplet of vapor a virus will ride upon. Then look up the average pore size of most non-specialist masks. I suspect you will find that the “About as effective as a chain-link fence keeping out a gnat” analogy will be quite apt.

    Regular cloth or paper masks may be of limited use for restraining normal saliva during speech, a cough or a sneeze, but they’re all but useless to control inhaling tiny particles from the atmosphere.

    I haven’t read up on KN95 masks, but I’ve seen claims they are not 100% effective either.

    And it’s funny — one almost never hears any admissions of the downsides of mask wearing. Just as with the ‘vaccines’, it’s all upside, no mention of downside, at least according to the official story.

  411. @Ben the Layabout

    Malthus was just early, as was Samuel Butler in regard to machines.

  412. @Achmed E. Newman

    What sort of arrogant racist says ‘Peking’ instead of Beijing? We know well what Sinophobic hatred drives this example. Why not go whole hog and write ‘Pekin’?

  413. @Wizard of Oz

    As you might remember, a great fuss was made by Pfizer PR and corrupted ‘doctors’ and ‘regulators’ and political cretins here regarding clots caused by AZ. The old ‘thrombosis with thrombocytopaenia’ problem. Unfortunately, at the time there were more deaths reported from such clots, particularly in the splanchic rather than cerebral circulation, with Pfizer, rather than with AZ. So Pfizer, one of the most corrupt corporations ever, with billions in fines to prove it, in my opinion just sent bigger cheques out to its stooges and trolls, and that information was quickly ‘disappeared’.
    Moreover, mRNA gene therapy injections are now known, despite fanatic information suppression and outright lying by the MSM vermin and the medical Mafias, to cause more adverse reactions than all previous vaccines combined. Not only pericarditis and myocarditis, particularly in young men, but numerous other disasters, catastrophes that worsen with each ‘booster’. I strongly advise you not to take any more mRNA, and await, or obtain, safer alternatives, such as whole, attenuated, virus vaccines, that confer polyclonal immunity, rather than merely to the spike protein.

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  414. @mulga mumblebrain

    There are many kinds of racists. Unlike the Chinese ones, I’m not arrogant. If “PEK” is good enough for the international airport code, then Peking it is. (Why drop the “g”? I don’t get that part.)

    Same thing for Canton – A/P code is “CAN”. I swear I explained this to you before, but maybe it was some other asshole.

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  415. @mulga mumblebrain

    Oh, and what’s your take on the goings on in Shanghai, China and other cities? Do you think there is actually a massive Covid one-niner attack with people keeling over in the streets again?

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  416. @mulga mumblebrain

    I have sent to my most distinguished retired medical friend a long interview with Dr Ro ert Fleming posted on UR that alerted me by the use of the word propn. . Mad cow disease anyone?

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  417. @Achmed E. Newman

    Peking is anachronistic racism, harking back to the days of ‘No dogs or Chinese’ in the parks. I bet you miss it. Of course you won’t admit it-your type never do.

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  418. @Achmed E. Newman

    The Chinese obviously know something about this US-created bio-weapon, that makes them ultra-cautious.

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  419. @mulga mumblebrain

    “Anachronistic Racism” is a new one. I guess someone should write a strongly worded letter to IACO about the airport codes.

    Then, did you forget the explanation for the signs in the parks? I asked the city to take them down. I got some fat black broad on the phone though who won’t do a thing for that reason.

  420. @mulga mumblebrain

    If that was the case, then they did a heck of a job defeating this bio-weapon the first time around, per the Chinese-government-envying folks like Ron Unz. You mean they had achieved COVID-ZERO but let it slip through their fingers? Was it another visiting sports team? Drats! Second time they fell for that this decade! [/Smart]

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  421. @mulga mumblebrain

    It must be tough for you having to refrain from ordering Peking Duck even in a Beijing restaurant with menus in English as well as Chinese.

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  422. @SBaker

    Like many who opine here, some of your comments seem valid, yet others show fundamental errors that are serious, yet are often made by highly intelligent people, such as our host Mr. Unz. I and others have already mentioned some in detail, but to briefly recap:

    You seem to blindly accept the statistics of “Covid-19” deaths (and presumably, illness, positive cases, etc.) on faith. There are so many things wrong with these statistics that (in my opinion) for anyone to even dare to use them as the basis for any argument shows unquestioning faith in provably bad data. It would greatly stregthen a person’s credibility, if not their argument, if they admit at the outset the limitations of data upon which they must rely. Yet this very rarely happens. While the term “Garbage in, garbage out” probably originates in the computer field (and Mr. Unz should be especially aware of it for precisely that reason) it has applications far broader.

    Given the clear defects in the data, anyone such as you or Unz who claims “millions of deaths” is either misguided or a willing accomplice in deception.

    Let’s quickly deconstruct your claim “I have known some very fit and healthy people that refused the vaccine and died from the virus.” Anyone who knows the basic facts about Covid-19 illness would instantly spot your claim as almost certainly a lie. Why? Simple. The overwhelming majority of people who die from Covid-19 (which about 95% of the time means “with Covid-19” or merely that they tested positive for a virus using a highly unreliable test) are very old, with severe chronic health issues. Unless you know thousands of people, your claim is next to zero in probability.

    And that’s why I’ve marked you a troll.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  423. @Achmed E. Newman

    A Sinophobe racist like you is no doubt chuckling in delight at the success of repeated infections, possibly from US diplomatic personnel, Chinese traitors, by drone, or perhaps by migratory birds, a vector they were studying in Banderastan with their Ukronazi orc stooges.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  424. @Wizard of Oz

    I always ask for Beijing Duck-the waiters appreciate the effort.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  425. @mulga mumblebrain

    And reject your tip without sneering at its size.

  426. @mulga mumblebrain

    Ha, so it was the drones or migratory birds this time? Gotta watch those migratory birds. Maybe it was the swallows. I say kill ’em all! (I got the idea from Chairman Mao.)

    I don’t think too many Chinese or American people CARE how many Chinese people are getting infected, because the virus itself is a nothingburger at this point. The part that’s gotten Totalitarian and Orwellian over there is the fact that one’s phone could tell authorities that it (the phone, hence its owner) has been near a guy in the grocery store for 2 minutes who has tested positive and that now, you must be taken to the quarantine camp.

    Things like that are going on, people have been locked in their apartments for a month in a half, all who were specifically told 3 days before the LOCKDOWNs that there would be none and not to buy and stash food in a panic.

    The reason I’d like to see more written about this is to warn the rest of the world how bad the fake-crisis-induced Totalitarianism can get. The Peak Stupidity blog will have more pics and videos of the situation – mostly in Shanghai – the place that the CCP authorities want to fuck with the most.

    That the Unz Review has not published a word about this really makes me wonder about the proprietor a bit …

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
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  427. @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s CPC, moron. Are you Falun Gong, by any chance?

  428. @mulga mumblebrain

    If you mean the Chinese Communist Party, well, that abbreviates out to CCP. Chinese people call it the CCP. I don’t give a damn what Mumbledbrains call it.

    Mr. Unz’s title fits you you and Mr. Unz himself pretty well: Two Years After Covid, Eyes Remain Firmly Shut. LOCKDOWNs in Shanghai? I see nothing, nothing!

    I’m an American. We don’t bang gongs, except on old TV shows.

  429. @mulga mumblebrain

    Look man, maybe you have a Chinese girlfriend over there in Oz, and I see no problem with that. Most are a lot less demanding and feminist than the White chicks.

    However, you jump in anytime I’ve got anything to say about China, even when it has nothing to do with you. Are you being paid for this? Otherwise, I don’t see your point. Every country and every people have good and bad. Though, for obvious reasons, Peak Stupidity writes mostly about American stupidity, we call out stupidity everywhere we see it. China is not by any means immune.

    If it makes you feel better, check out “A Peak Stupidity apology to our Chinese readers”.

  430. @michael888

    I said 95-year-old. How many 95-year-olds are obese? How many 95-year-olds have co-morbidities?

    I would guess: none.

    • Disagree: Achmed E. Newman
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