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On Friday geopolitical plates of tectonic scale may have visibly shifted as Iran and Saudi Arabia, two of the most important countries in the Middle East and erstwhile bitter adversaries, announced that they had reestablished diplomatic relations after a lengthy round of negotiations held with top Chinese officials in Beijing.

Back in 1945, President Franklin Roosevelt famously met on an American cruiser with Ibn Saud, and our important alliance with oil-rich Saudi Arabia came into being.

Though sometimes stressed during the 1973 Oil Embargo and in the aftermath of the 9/11 Attacks, the relationship remained our most important in the Arab World, being responsible for the rise of the Petrodollar and the maintenance of our own greenback as the world’s reserve currency. With America’s industrial base having been reduced to a mere shadow of its once global dominance and our country plagued by horrendous annual budget deficits and accumulated debt, much of our national prosperity and current standard of living probably today depends upon that maintaining that status.

Meanwhile, during the four decades since its 1979 Islamic Revolution, no country in the region has been a greater object of American hostility than Iran. As recently as January 2020, we assassinated Gen. Qasem Soleimani, Iran’s greatest military commander, who had been considered a likely presidential candidate in their 2021 elections.

There are obviously many long-term factors behind this apparent diplomatic revolution, notably including China’s economic rise and its position as the leading purchaser of Middle Eastern oil. Over a decade ago, I had described these powerful trends, which have now become obvious to the entire world.

However, I think that the colossal arrogance of our own country, and the extent to which we have increasingly abused and victimized our own allies and vassals over the years must surely have been a huge contributing factor. One problem with relying too heavily upon the power of your dishonest propaganda is that you may continue to believe in it yourself even after most of the intended targets of your deception have stopped doing so.

In late September, a series of massive underwater explosions severely damaged the Russian-German Nord Stream pipelines, perhaps Europe’s most important civilian energy infrastructure, a particularly devastating blow at a time when Europe was suffering its worst energy crisis in generations.

The enormous scale and extreme difficulty of these deep water demolitions led German investigators to quickly declare that a state actor had likely been responsible. Yet strangely enough, this huge event received minimal coverage in the American mainstream media. After briefly quoting anonymous government officials who absurdly suggested that the Russians had destroyed their own pipelines, our press immediately lost interest in the story, which soon disappeared with almost no follow-up or investigation. A gigantic environmental disaster seemed to draw negligible media interest from the legions of normally hair-trigger environmentalists.

The obvious reason for this strange lack of curiosity and the resulting blanket of silence was the likely identity of the perpetrators, which had grave political implications. Top American leaders had issued numerous public threats against those pipelines and seemed to rejoice in their successful destruction, so there seemed an overwhelming likelihood that our own country had played a central role in the illegal attacks, among the worst peacetime examples of industrial terrorism in world history. If enough Europeans began to suspect that their American allies had destroyed energy infrastructure so vital to Germany and the rest of the continent, our NATO alliance would be dealt a devastating blow and might be set on the road to dissolution.

One of America’s most powerful international weapons is its overwhelming control over the global news ecosystem, and a complete blanket of media silence was soon enforced, causing that huge event to quickly fade from public consciousness. When someone such as Prof. Jeffrey Sachs mentioned what had probably happened on Bloomberg TV, he was quickly yanked off the air.

Most ordinary Westerners live their lives trapped within the cocoon of our controlled media, and only a small minority of them may have recognized the magnitude of this historic event, with only a sliver blaming anyone other than the demonized Russian enemy.

But I doubt that this blindness applied to political leaders worldwide, who certainly understood what had probably happened. If America’s reckless and criminal government had wantonly destroyed the vital civilian infrastructure of its closest NATO allies, potentially crippling Europe’s economy, how could it ever be trusted to respect the lives and property of other countries? Surely the leadership of Saudi Arabia and many other important nations began asking themselves such questions.

Then a month ago, any remaining doubts vanished, as the exact details of America’s attack against Germany’s energy infrastructure were revealed in a bombshell expose by Seymour Hersh, who had spent a half-century as one of America’s most renowned investigative journalists.

Although Hersh’s story was totally boycotted by the mainstream press, within 24 hours over a million people had read it worldwide on Substack. His subsequent interview with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! was viewed over two million times on Youtube, with various other interviews adding many hundreds of thousands of additional views.

Hersh’s revelations prompted Russia to call a special session of the UN Security Council to discuss the pipeline attacks, and this drew important testimony from Prof. Sachs and former CIA Analyst Ray McGovern. These developments finally forced the Washington Post to grudgingly mention Hersh’s blockbuster weeks after it had first been published, finally breaking the mainstream media blockade.

With the ripples of Hersh’s reporting beginning to spread, the German government and its Chancellor Olaf Scholz faced a very difficult dilemma.

During late 2021, Scholz had been standing next to President Joseph Biden at a press conference when the latter publicly threatened to eliminate the pipelines, so German voters might reasonably suspect their own leader’s complicity after that threat was carried out. Attention had to be diverted in a different direction.

Last week, Scholz took a sudden, unscheduled trip to privately meet with Biden in DC, and a couple of days later stories suddenly appeared in the New York Times and Germany’s Die Zeit weekly blaming the pipeline attacks upon an unspecified group of pro-Ukraine activists. The articles cited anonymous government sources, with most of the details being both vague and risible.

Deploying a ton of powerful military explosives in deep water was obviously a very challenging covert operation, requiring highly-specialized diving equipment and skilled demolitions experts, but according to German sources it had been carried out by a handful of unknown activists on a rented sailboat, a total absurdity. The Times account was more vague if hardly more persuasive, pointing to mysterious Ukrainian activists as the culprits and only acknowledging the very detailed expose of Hersh, one of its former star reporters, in the 26th paragraph. The German claims of a sailboat-based attack was soon discussed in the Wall Street Journal, though the skeptical reporters emphasized how extremely difficult it would have been to carry out such a major undersea operation in such limited circumstances.

A German who blogs at the Moon of Alabama website had been heavily following the pipeline attacks from the beginning. He reasonably described these sudden anonymous media stories as merely constituting journalistic chaff, aimed at obscuring the very detailed account of the attack already provided by Hersh and perhaps diverting attention from some of the follow-up stories the Pulitzer Prize winner might plan to release.

The hosts of the Grayzone podcast showed photos of the sailboat allegedly used in the massive military attack and ridiculed the absurd cover-story that our government had concocted.

Indeed, when Hersh was informed what his former newspaper had published, he was stunned, saying that he couldn’t believe that they would have ever written anything so stupid.

A few days later, Hersh was interviewed on Chinese television, and he explained his personal sources of information. A half-century earlier many of the young GIs serving in Vietnam had been deeply impressed by his honest war reporting, and during the decades that followed some had risen very high within our military and intelligence establishments. These individuals swore an oath to the American Constitution rather than to any particular American president, and many of them were appalled at the idiocy of the Biden Administration’s decision to destroy Europe’s energy pipelines, providing Hersh with the detailed account that he published.

In that interview, Hersh understandably ridiculed the absurd claims that a shadowy group of Ukrainian activists on a sailboat could have carried out any operation as obviously massive and complex as the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines. His Chinese interlocutor objected that there was a historical precedent, which seemed to puzzle the journalist until she explained she was referring to the 9/11 Attacks, officially blamed upon a small group of Islamic fanatics. Based upon his memoirs, Hersh seems a deeply conventional thinker on all such controversial topics and living within the bubble of the Western mainstream media, he may never have questioned the official 9/11 narrative or considered that obvious analogy with the pipeline attacks. But the attitude of his interviewer demonstrated that deep suspicions about what had actually happened on 9/11 are probably widespread across China and most of the non-Western world.

Just before the twentieth anniversary, I published a lengthy reconstruction of those seminal events, and I would recommend it to those so interested.


I suspect that most world leaders reacted with total disbelief to the story of the Ukrainian activists on a rented sailboat, shocked not that the Western governments and their subservient media outlets would lie, but that their lies would be so utterly ridiculous. So not only had the Biden Administration illegally destroyed the crucial energy pipelines of its European vassals, but it had apparently made no effort to even prepare a plausible cover-story to camouflage its criminal attacks. What independent-minded national leader would want to align himself with a hegemonic power so arrogant and incompetent? The American government had demonstrated the total bankruptcy of its strategic thinking, exactly what we might expect to see in the late stages of a decaying empire.

A few days ago, Prof. Sachs was interviewed by a podcaster in Germany, and he was absolutely scathing in his description of the total irrationality and recklessness of the Neocon-dominated American government.

Although I assume that all these facts have certainly become known to the ruling elites of most non-Western countries, I think they may increasingly be reaching a much broader audience as well, despite America’s stranglehold over the traditional electronic media.

Our own website is a small one, and only about a dozen of our articles have ever broken 100,000 views. But almost exactly a year ago, just prior to the outbreak of the Ukraine war, Mike Whitney published a piece entitled “The Crisis in Ukraine Is Not About Ukraine. It’s About Germany,” arguing that the primary motive for the looming conflict was America’s effort to disrupt growing economic ties between Germany and Russia, with the Nord Stream pipelines being the most important example of this. Strong German-Russian cooperation would be very beneficial for both countries but might greatly diminish America’s European influence, so we were fomenting a war to prevent such Eurasian integration, though the result might be the destruction of Ukraine and severe economic damage to both Germany and Russia.

This article quickly attracted enormous global readership and has now reached nearly a million views, with the bulk of that traffic coming from WhatsApp users on the Indian subcontinent. Assuming many of those individuals at least glanced at the contents, their perspective on American policy may have become much more realistic, recognizing that our government was ruthlessly impoverishing its European vassals in order to maintain its own power, with the elected leaders of those countries regularly betraying the interests of the citizens they claimed to serve. The worldwide dissemination of such contrary ideas from alternative Western Internet sources may increasingly undercut the dishonest narrative long promoted by Hollywood and CNN.

Most credulous Westerners may fail to accept the reality of any factual information unless it has been endorsed by their own maintream media, but others around the world may have a different perspective. Over the last year, the Western global media has portrayed Russia’s Ukraine war as an outrageous, unprovoked act of naked aggression, unleashing a propaganda-barrage more intense than anything I can remember and demonizing Russian President Vladimir Putin to an unprecedented extent. Putin quickly denounced these attacks as coming from “an empire of lies,” but they were widely expected to result in Russia’s international isolation, leading to severe economic stress.

However, the reality has been entirely different. Although Americans and other Westerners apparently absorbed most of this propaganda, the impact elsewhere has been minimal, with 60-70% of the world’s population residing in countries still maintaining good relations with Russia despite our enormous pressure to the contrary. So in some respects, it is America and the rest of the West that has actually become isolated. In real terms, China’s industrial output is larger than the combined total for America and the European Union, and our erratic and increasingly provocative behavior has moved China much closer to Russia than it has ever previously been. I had emphasized these trends six months ago, and they have only become more obvious since then.

Meanwhile, many years of arrogant and oppressive American behavior towards so many other major countries has produced a powerful backlash of support for Russia. According to news reports, the Iranians have provided the Russians with large numbers of their advanced drones, which have been effectively deployed against the Ukrainians. Since World War II, our alliance with Saudi Arabia has been a linchpin of our Middle Eastern policy, but the Saudis have now repeatedly sided with the Russians on oil production issues, completely ignoring America’s demands despite threats of retaliation from Congress. Turkey has NATO’s largest military, but it is closely cooperating with Russia on natural gas shipments. India has also moved closer to Russia on crucial issues, ignoring the sanctions we have imposed on Russian oil. Except for our political vassal states, most major world powers seem to be lining up on Russia’s side.

Since World War II one of the central pillars of global American dominance has been the status of the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency and our associated control over the international banking system. Until recently we always presented our role as neutral and administrative, but we have increasingly begun weaponizing that power, using our position to punish those states we disliked, and this is naturally forcing other countries to seek alternatives. Perhaps the world could tolerate our freezing the financial assets of relatively small countries such as Venezuela or Afghanistan, but our seizure of Russia’s $300 billion in foreign reserves obviously tipped the balance, and major countries are increasingly seeking to shift their transactions away from the dollar and the banking network that we control. Although the economic decline of the EU has caused a corresponding fall in the Euro and driven up the dollar by default, the longer-term prospects for our continued currency hegemony hardly seem good. And given our horrendous budget and trade deficits, a flight from the dollar might easily collapse the US economy.

Soon after the outbreak of the Ukraine War, the eminent historian Alfred McCoy argued that we were witnessing the geopolitical birth of a new world order, one built around a Russia-China alliance that would dominate the Eurasian landmass.

Although probably only a small fraction of Westerners are yet aware that America destroyed Europe’s energy pipelines, many others around the world are much less ignorant, and the same may also be true of even more consequential matters. As mentioned above, mainstream Chinese broadcast journalists apparently have a very different view of the 9/11 Attacks than the one universally presented by the American media, and I think this is also the case with regard to the global Covid epidemic.

Just over six months ago, I published an article pointing out that both the Russian and Iranian governments have publicly accused America of releasing the Covid virus in a deliberate biowarfare attack, and the Chinese government has implied the same thing, with such speculation reportedly being widespread across Chinese social media.

Twenty million people including well over a million Americans have died from this global epidemic and the lives of many billions have been disrupted. Just as the basic facts of the Nord Stream pipeline attacks soon suggested likely American culpability, the same was also true with regard to the Covid outbreak. For nearly three years I have been publishing a long series of articles pointing to the strong perhaps overwhelming evidence that the global disaster was the result of blowback from a botched American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), a possibility utterly unimaginable to anyone in America’s political class.

In several of his numerous interviews, Hersh has joked that his lengthy expose had only amounted to explicating the obvious, merely providing the exact details of something that had been almost immediately apparent, and I think that much the same is also true of the Covid epidemic. For those who wish to understand why Russian, Iranian, and Chinese officials have been making these charges, I would recommend my long series of articles, also provided in a freely downloadable ebook.

For twelve months, I’ve been regularly promoting several of my podcast interviews, which effectively summarize the crucial information and have been available on Rumble. But since Youtube is so much more widely used, I’ve now also uploaded them to a newly created Youtube channel:

Kevin Barrett, FFWN • February 16, 2022 • 15m

Geopolitics & Empire • February 1, 2022 • 75m • SoundCloud Audio

Red Ice TV • February 3, 2022 • 130m

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  1. Here’s a fun truth bomb in related subject:

    According to Harry Elmer Barnes, FDR was planning to betray his Jewish advisers to King Ibn Saud by doing a mass deportation plan and stopping the Israelis from settling in Palestine. Then FDR mysteriously died….

  2. I wo der whether you are getting a bit over excited. After looking down yout article at so many of the usual suspects I have put off reading it but, FGS, I already know that it is just a resumption of diplomatic relations that existed previously during periods of Saudi Iranian enmity. Why would Saudi Arabia actually want to maintain a situation where they had no embassy in Iran – nowhere to hide Israeli agents safely when they are doing a job on Iran’s nuclear facilities for both countries – just to exercise a little imagination. Then again what about the Saudis being pleased to involve China because it should give them a bit more leverage over America. That’s just a start.

    • Replies: @col from OZ
  3. @Unz Fanboy 1

    Crap. There was absolutely nothing mysterious about FDR’s death.

    • Replies: @sally
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  4. nsa says:

    Americans traveling overseas little realize that everywhere you go, the locals spit in your food. The French even have a name for it……”ranch dressing”.

  5. Petermx says:

    China liberated the Middle East from the US, plans to host Summit of Persian Gulf countries, Iran.

    • Thanks: Zane
    • Replies: @ariadna
  6. Petermx says:
    @Unz Fanboy 1

    Can you name the book where I could read that?

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  7. Thanks to Ron for the article.

    Fascinating to watch affairs unfold.

    • Replies: @Derer
  8. I suspect this is the “Suez Crisis” for the American empire.

    In 1956, the dying British empire invaded Egypt to seize control of the Suez canal. It had become weak after two major, senseless World Wars, and became mired in an unwinnable war in Egypt that other major powers denounced and most British citizens opposed. The pound collapsed, its government was replaced, and the British army went home as the empire formally died.

  9. The hosts of the Grayzone podcast showed photos of the sailboat allegedly used in the massive military attack and ridiculed the absurd cover-story that our government had concocted.

    Mention of the Grayzone site reminded me of a story I saw there yesterday.

    ‘Rigorous’ Maidan massacre exposé suppressed by top academic journal

    A peer-reviewed paper initially approved and praised by a prestigious academic journal was suddenly rescinded without explanation. Its author, one of the world’s top scholars on Ukraine-related issues, had marshaled overwhelming evidence to conclude Maidan protesters were killed by pro-coup snipers.

    The author may still hope to publish his paper in a Journal, but it would be a coup for your site here if you could either print or promptly reprint it.

  10. G wiltek says:

    It is happening. USA is about to sink, with it’s allies and it’s currency. The petro Dollar.

    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  11. Fr33man says:

    Clearly, the debilitating and disorienting sense of widespread confusion and unreality resulting from the manufactured absurdities of the Western mainstream media’s deliberately convoluted and nonsensical controlling narratives is the whole point. For, how do the powerful keep their secrets? They run you dizzy by piling falsehood on top of falsehood, until you can’t tell a lie from the truth anymore. But this endless process of obfuscating the truth also includes the limited hang-outs of alt-media icons Jeffrey Sachs and Seymour Hersh, the work of these two privileged, well-connected Jews in defining the limits of acceptable dissent for those on the margins is also integral to the entire operation.

  12. Sachs?
    Is that that Jaffa David Sachs, that Jewish scum of Jewish „Sustainable Development“ and the fight to destroy Europe and white people in general? Is that that scum who corroberates with the Jewnighted Nations Sexcretary Analtonio Guterrors on sustaining the Jews’ Development Goals, „a set of 17 global goals“ and held the same position under Ban Ki-Moon and was brought in by Kofi Annan (with Jew cunt Wallenberg). What crimes committed Suxx with Gates in Africa?
    Jaffa David, Sly Horse & Cons and what is wrong when unchecked audacity explains to the world what it should believe (to advantage the Jew and his evil agenda).
    The Jews always play both sides; here the destroyers and the righteousness of „sustainers“.
    They have vital infrastructure destroyed and turn araound and investigate who did it.
    The bastards should have their cuck mouth sewn up and spend the rest of their cuck lives in a chain-gang cleaning toilettes in order to return some real „sustainable development“ for all their crimes against humanity.
    Jeffrey Sachs – what a creep!
    Go and do for once some honest work in your cuck life, you scum of the earth!

  13. Chebyshev says:

    Though sometimes stressed during the 1973 Oil Embargo and in the aftermath of the 9/11 Attacks, the relationship remained our most important in the Arab World, being responsible for the rise of the Petrodollar and the maintenance of our own greenback as the world’s reserve currency. With America’s industrial base having been reduced to a mere shadow of its once global dominance and our country plagued by horrendous annual budget deficits and accumulated debt, much of our national prosperity and current standard of living probably today depends upon that maintaining that status.

    The Saudis are important because if they don’t ramp up oil production, then China’s rising demand for oil will drive up energy costs.

    Our national leadership’s desire to maintain American hegemony, in part via NATO expansion deep into Eurasia, has expedited the ending of that hegemony. The end of unchallenged American dominance could lead to a lower standard of living for the average American, unless we tax and redistribute the income of the top 1%.

    Our own website is a small one, and only about a dozen of our articles have ever broken 100,000 views.

    I’m very curious as to which articles comprise the top 12 by total views.

  14. With all due respect to the man who created and maintains the best website on the internet I confess myself disappointed: expecting an erudite and savvy analysis of the new Iran/Saudi Arabian deal midwifed into the public domain by USA’s biggest competitor we are instead served with a plate of Mr. Unz’s past Covid theorizing, which I consider intriguing, yes, but also, without further evidence, quite debunked by commenters on this very site.

    • Agree: Son of a Jedi, meamjojo
  15. Jim Yost says:

    Russia, China, Iran, and Saudi Arabia are the “Axis of Evil” according to the George Bush Jr. But then he goes and visits Zelensky and gives him a big ‘love’ hug. Zelensky is an avowed Satanist (and is proud of it). Several years ago there were a few reports in some of the alternative news sites that said that Bush Jr. is a Satanist. I wouldn’t doubt it. The Satanists stick together.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  16. nos2 says:

    Jews own the west. It’s patently clear they do, it’s actually quite astonishing that people that look under the rug don’t come up with this conclusion. I believe it’s because the majority of people have no souls ie Npcs. I also believe a good deal of Jews actually don’t believe that they own anything, they aren’t lying to themselves. They don’t believe it because they are like NPCS.

    Some obvious turds in the bowl to show to any normie that Jews run the place.

    Biden family
    >Beau Biden’s wife is a Jew
    >Hunter Biden’s daughter married a Jew
    >Joe Biden’s daughter married a Jew
    >Ivanka married a Jew
    >Chelsea married a Jew

    Goyims sell their daughters to Jews for power. Jews have power because they own the financial system. The financial system exists because of England and the Netherlands terrorizing the world thanks to Jewish backing and unfortunately winning wars (I wish they hadn’t!). Protestants are a blight to the world. Christianity is a Jewish subversion to western cultural systems. Even then with Christianity the Jews did not have power under the romans although I suspect they aided the Germanic invaders just as they do now with non Europeans. Jews preferred Germans back then as well. I’ve never heard of a Jew having anything bad to say about Germans despite the supposed bad blood. It all comes full circle when you just do a bit of research.

    • LOL: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Fumanchu
  17. The rapprochement may or may not be genuine but what is genuine is the desire to make it happen on the public stage to show no need or want for US involvement and to also elevate China’s ascendance and capability as a mature and prudent actor. Completely ignoring the bellicose US neocon “statesmen” whose foreign policy aims are actually those of Israel.

  18. nos2 says:

    All these nations are Israeli allies. Brendon O Connell connects the dots on this with the Mackinder world order. Mullahs don’t want to destroy Israel, most of them are crypto jews. It’s a sham. Russia is clearly a Jewish state. China is communist nuff said. Saudi royal family descends from donmeh jews. Indians love Jews because Hindus are dogs that simp for any master but like dogs they’ll eat them when they’re dead and rotting.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  19. A prominent Western politician did question the 911 narrative/cover story. Let us remember that former Italian president Francesco Cossiga said to Corriere della Sera “that the 911 attacks “were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.”

    Another Italian politician Paolo Bernini, an MP for the Five Star Movement (M5S) speaking in parliament on the 12th anniversary of the attacks said that the official version of the event has been “proved wrong from every point of view”. He added:

    “It’s clearly false and by now, the world has realized.”


    “We will probably never know the truth, but it is definitely completely different to the story told by mainstream media. In which case you can say that everything that you know is false and, as the American phrase goes, ‘It was an inside job’,”

    On Twitter he wrote:

    “If someone can show me a video where you can clearly see the plane hitting the Pentagon (the most watched place in the world)…I will resign,”

    The Western media hardly reports such statements by honest politicians. Surely many more know the truth but refuse to speak up.

    • Agree: Iris, KA, skrik, ariadna, Joe Levantine
    • LOL: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @barr
    , @Patrick McNally
  20. Robbs says:

    I said it before and I’ll say it again. Hersh is a plant and the deep state needs to sever ties with Zelensky. Maybe Hersh didn’t care about 9/11 because everyone was on board. If you watch closely you can see the strands slowly come apart on the thick rope the US attached to sinking Ukraine.

    Woodward was a CIA plant. Hersh wounded Nixon and Woodward took him out. Maybe we can expect to see Woodward come out with all the dirt on Biden to make him do a Johnson. If so then you’ll know how the game is really played.

    • LOL: Ann Nonny Mouse
  21. JR Foley says:

    Hersh, Sachs, McGovern and Unz are where things are at and no doubt others will see the Light. Amtrak Joe stated openly that “Nord Stream must go” and Victoria Nuland “rejoiced” when the explosions happened –the mainline USA news silent on the W5 but Canada is solidly in line with the narrative spun on the most recent line –7 Ukrainians dove down and done the demolition–a scene from “Flipper” sponsored by 7Up—Justin Trudeau –you just might be “next” if you get my drift.
    First, they ( DC) came for Zylenskky –then they came for Olaf Scholz —then they came for –the Land North of the 49th..??

  22. The extermination of the despicable angloid race is ever nearer. Soon the jews will lose the last of their lackeys and we can then deal a final solution to them. God is in control.

  23. Biden,Blinken @Bloben,the Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight(or do anything right).
    Reckless,misguided,inept and just plain,damned stupid.By the time they get run out of town the US will be fortunate to have any friends or allies left.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  24. Henry Kissinger famously said “it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.” Zelensky and other chauvinistic Ukrainians are learning that the hard way. MBS has done some dumb (not to mention evil) things, but at least he’s smart enough to see which way the global winds are blowing.

    • Replies: @Decoy
  25. meamjojo says:

    “On Friday geopolitical plates of tectonic scale may have visibly shifted as Iran and Saudi Arabia, two of the most important countries in the Middle East and erstwhile bitter adversaries, announced that they had reestablished diplomatic relations after a lengthy round of negotiations held with top Chinese officials in Beijing.”

    Very good! Maybe Iran and SA will now stop ripping Yemen to pieces. Perhaps both countries will even pay to rebuild Yemen. Although I understand that Iran is in deep shit economically, so may not be capable of contributing.

  26. Blissex says:

    That the USA government are “ugly americans” has been well known for decades on the receiving end of their interventions…

    As to Saudi Arabia there is every hint that MBS knows well that soon oil extracted will barely cover the internal demand and none will left for export making Saudi irrelevant to the USA elites and the Saudi ruling family will lose USA “protection”.

  27. meamjojo says:

    You can keep flogging Hersh’s POV but a year from now, the vast majority of people will answer to the question of “Do you know who Seymour Hersh is” with a blank state and the question of “who?”

    If someone asks me, I will surely reply: “You mean the guy who was totally wrong about who blew up the pipeline?”.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  28. YesXorNo says:

    Mr. Unz,

    Well done for your excellent collection of media reports on a collection of topics. I particularly enjoyed your discussion of the CGN interview with Hersh in which he explains why he has sources. Well done for spotting the 9/11 reference. I agree with you entirely that this accepted USA narrative is a pack of lies and that most of the rest of the world also understand this. The Nord Stream story echoes this; the greater world understand the story even while USA media attempt to hush it up and the USA regime (executive) denies it.

    In summary, thanks.

  29. Alrenous says: • Website

    the relationship remained our most important in the Arab World, being responsible for the rise of the Petrodollar and the maintenance of our own greenback as the world’s reserve currency.

    And the suppression of nuclear power plants, in favour of the oil-fired variety.

    Naturally, “renewable” “energy” does nothing about total CO2 emissions and thus doesn’t threaten Saudi revenue streams. All those rare earth metals have to be trucked long distances, especially in places where trains are de-facto banned.

    The house of Saud must be headed by politically savvy operators or they would get overthrown. (Same way the Kims can’t be as crazy as we’re told.) Because it’s a monarchy they can just openly make decisions.
    America is very obviously a power on decline, and was frankly a bad roommate even when she wasn’t. By contrast, Putin and Xi, while hardly pure saints, are at least grownups and don’t throw periodic religion-themed tantrums. Further, because America is not a monarchy, they can’t openly persecute the Saudis, at least not in the short term. It would be too obvious – the wrong folks would be able to tell who was responsible for making the decision. America will probably make some homophobia noises or whatever, but that’s all.

    The worst they they can do is…allow nuclear power again. I saw some mutterings about a ‘new’ nuclear technology, which suggests that American leaders were aware of the impending Saudi move for months now.
    And, like, oh noes. Not that.

    (P.S. Pity the Canadians for having to live right next door to the little shits. Imagine how they would feel if America was constantly banging on about how softwood lumber is the tool of the devil.)

  30. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, America is basically self sufficient in “fossil fuels” (another ridiculous neologism like “nuclear family”) so it’s not the worst idea for Saudi to be somebody else’s problem. Will be interesting to see what Turkey does next.

    “14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
    15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
    16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
    17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
    18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.”

    – Revelation 9:14-18, the Bible, KJV

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  31. Petermx says:

    Seymour Hersh:

    “I think it’s going to lead to widespread conservative movements politically. The one thing we did after WW II that was fantastic was we rebuilt Europe into a modern democratic society, plural society”

    Ron Unz:

    “One of America’s most powerful international weapons is its overwhelming control over the global news ecosystem, and a complete blanket of media silence was soon enforced, causing that huge event to quickly fade from public consciousness.”

    I think Seymour Hersh maybe had Germany especially in mind when he said that, and considering the WW II narrative created by the victorious allies, with Jews playing a huge role—possibly the biggest role—in creating the mainstream narrative, that might sound perfectly reasonable to most people, but that is because the vanquished countries (namely Germany) have been portrayed as being the most barbarous nation in the history of the world and the victorious nations as representing everything that is good and moral. This, of course, is as far from the truth as one could get, but since Germany had no say in this narrative, that’s the result. In Europe, they have strict censorship laws that keep the lies of the mainstream narrative in place.

    This has resulted in Germany having a weakling like Scholz as its leader, someone that reports to foreigners as to what his responsibilities are, not to the German people. Today’s media in Germany is a farce, with liars as big as those in America and Britain. That is probably because those two countries created Germany’s media after World War II with strict censorship and by selecting people who would create a media for Germany that the victors liked.

    The fact that Europe did more than anyone else in the last 500 or 1,000 years to create modern civilization and that it allows Americans (often Jews) to have such a huge position in Europe and Europe’s own media is further evidence that Europe is under occupation and not just military occupation.

    While one can see why certain people might love this grand deal, it is not a good deal for the people under occupation. I look forward to seeing what will happen over the next few years, but especially over the next twelve months.

    • Agree: HdC, skrik, ariadna, Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Joe Levantine
  32. Ron,

    Genuine question. Why is it absurd that Russia blew up Nord Stream?

    Your site openly posits that 9/11 was an inside job (which I lean towards), why is Russia incapable of doing this too?

    NS1 had been shut off for months, NS2 has never operated. Putin was pushing hard that “Russia is under attack by NATO” and in the middle of announcing a partial mobilisation for another 350,000 soldiers for his war with Ukraine. It’s far less absurd than you think, if I’d been in his position I would have done it. It’s incredibly cheap for the capital he gets for the home crowd.

    Russia wrote the book on glowie ops and makes the CIA look like pussies by comparison.

    I’ve read Hersh’s article, he may accidentally be right on who did it, but his theory itself has holes wide enough a semi trailer could fit through it. Remember, until he posted his article Russia claimed they had proof that the UK did it.

    Unlike a lot of people on this site I don’t claim to know who did it (noone here does, they’re just siding with their biases) but to dismiss any possibility that they did is ludicrous

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Ron Unz
    , @anon
    , @Wokechoke
  33. If America has gone feral can Israel be far behind?

  34. Ron Unz’s piece back in 2006 about China’s rise was prescient. We are seeing these predictions unfold today. That is the pattern of history: empires rise and empires fall. Like the US overtook Britain nearly a century ago, so too will America be overtaken. Two world wars were fought over global dominance: so will a third. No declining hegemon sees its fate, because it has no choice but believe its own “dishonest propaganda”.

    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  35. The writing is on the wall. The American Empire will collapse. It’s only a question of when. The win-win politics of the multipolar bloc will win the day. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delirious. Americans and Europeans shouldn’t lament. When the empire collapses, we the average working people should take back our power and restructure society at which point we can begin to cooperate with the multipolar world in good faith. However, for that to happen, most of the swamp monsters will need to meet the end of a noose. Here’s a little joke to leave y’all with. What is the similarity between Washington DC and a sceptic tank? In both the turds rise to the top.

    • Agree: PUTINFAN
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. Twinkie says:

    Back when I used to do investigations overseas prior to the Iraq War, one particular case involved delving into the Bin Laden family (not Osama, but his kin who were in good standing in the KSA).

    In retrospect, we invaded the wrong country in 2003. There are days when I think we should have toppled the duplicitous House of Saud (and their cronies in the U.S. while at it). But I suppose the aftermath of such a drastic move would have been an utter chaos in the global petroleum market and may have led to unknown, unexpected consequences. One can only fantasize.

  37. Wild Man says:

    Quoting from your article:

    “A few days ago, Prof. Sachs was interviewed by a podcaster in Germany, and he was absolutely scathing in his description of the total irrationality and recklessness of the Neocon-dominated American government.”

    That is at least the second time, recently, you have referred to the globalist dominated American government, as the Neocon dominated American government. But the Neocon element is only one feature of the overall globalizing influence over American culture and politics, as you yourself have alluded to (also quoting from the article):

    “After briefly quoting anonymous government officials who absurdly suggested that the Russians had destroyed their own pipelines, our press immediately lost interest in the story, which soon disappeared with almost no follow-up or investigation. A gigantic environmental disaster seemed to draw negligible media interest from the legions of normally hair-trigger environmentalists.

    The obvious reason for this strange lack of curiosity and the resulting blanket of silence was the likely identity of the perpetrators, which had grave political implications.”

    The “normally hair-trigger environmentalists”, generally, are informed by leftist themes – no? But why the heck would leftists wish to take league with neocons, though? It’s because leftism and neoconism are two faces of the same thing – no? Which is best described as ‘globalism’ – no?

  38. cohen says:

    It appears that Ron Unz has appointed himself an unpaid PR Manager of Jeferry Sachs aka “Professor”, Iconic “Whistleblower” and a controlled opposition using inside information fed by Alphabetical agencies. As someone once wrote about Jeff. A “Repackaged Tool/Fool”

    What the China and Iran deal has to do with Jeffrey that Ron’s article is loaded with PR of his “client” . Mistakenly I expected impact on global and Middle East and Central Asia.

    If anyone could cite a single reference of Jeffrey commenting, positive or negative, on Stealing of Syrian oil, Israeli killing of American Citizens and American Journalists, or him blowing the whistle of bogus and selective UN violations used when suitable for propaganda. These are forbidden fruits for our whistleblower, Jeffery (heck he is associated with the UN Commission and should know a lot of irregularities).

    Or maybe, future Technologies pertaining to man made disasters. About five years ago I ran into a “conspiracy guy” who was working with a catering service in Washington DC. His words, that in one of the posh hotels there was a day conference on means to may heavy rains in selected locations (weather related). The “waiter” ran into one of the senior-aged attendees and asked the question about artificial rain. The old gentleman told the kid that there was more to it than what they were talking about in the conference (paraphrasing).

    It is true Jeffery is a professor in economics or he could be a smart man. But that does not mean he is qualified to be the chairman of a co called Covid Commission launched by a magazine. The commission was of course funded by Generous grants none other than from Rockfellers and “Dr. Bill Gates’ ‘ who authored several papers in medical magazines especially in “Nature” magazine that had often referenced on gain of function, Bats research in NC state, Dr. Fauci funding on and on.

    How in the world a failed/fired economist by Yeltsin and probably Govt. of Poland could be an expert or virology topics especially when the covid study is done by non Qualified members of the investigating team such sd a few with biology background engineers, economists, a former president, and get this a librarian. There goes the credibility of the commission. So dont be surprised by future manmade disasters.

    The New York Times called Jeffery an iconic whistleblower, according to Ron Unz old article (if my memory serves me). Never understood the “Iconic part”. A newspaper aka a propaganda machine for the government chooses, at will, Jeffery Sacks to be an icon

    After the disastrous economic model in Russia and Poland, Jeffery was shipped to the United Nations sustainability commission, an useless institution, like one in the World Bank, and other major international lenders
    . In my days, the Sustainability was meant environmental improvement by consuming what you produce while damaging the environment. Everyone is focussed on climate change which used to be global warming in the good old days and there is hardly any mention of water pollution, Solid waste, noise pollution and Toxic Chemicals.

    Yes there is climate change but the way it is handled is wrong and by the profiteers. Carbon Emission Trading where you can pollute say in Norway above your quota by buying credit on exchanges from the under developed countries with no or minimum pollution generation capacities. This is a scam developed by economic professors at Harvard and other prestigious economic institutions. I remember it was Larry Summer, a friend of Jeffery Sachs whose famous words were “ the poor countries have the capacity to absorb more pollution”. Wow and big wow. If anyone cares to remember a barge full of trash from NJ? Going to different countries to dump the load on poor countries’ soil at a price “because they had more capacity to absorb garbage”. Dont know what happened to that barge. Which country ended up taking the load.

    Now the new deal or Agenda 2030 under the disguise of environmental improvements is going to cover every aspect of life. Minerals, water, land, mountains, blue economy, your personal movements, everything being digitized, environmentally safe zones (you travel only for a few hours in certain zones) or you can buy credit to stay longer in those zones (just joking), debt sustainability, educational sustainability etc. Jeffery Sachs, as an economist, is perfect for such hoaxes.

    I am thankful to the advent of the internet that there is so much information, misinformation, and disinformation available and it is a challenge and time consuming to sort out. But hey, it is our responsibility to participate and get involved rather than being intellectually lazy and believe NYTimes, Washington Compost, and the rest of the media. It is up to us.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  39. MGB says:

    Begrudgingly mention, not drudgingly.

  40. Who is reading the article? An AI?

  41. A very nice précis by our esteemed host, but the piece would have been more complete if, in addition to Saudi Arabia, our host had mentioned MEXICO.

    Mexico is applying to join BRICS. Bye bye Monroe Doctrine.

    AMLO has had it up to the back teeth with the sabre-rattling from the US government and has decided to throw in his country’s lot with a bloc that shows signs of being more likely to be trustworthy.

    Meanwhile, in the US there is still a substantial proportion of the population who believes that
     ▪️ Bakhmut is of “largely symbolic” important (i.e., not tactical or strategic); and
     ▪️ the Fed bailout of SVB is not a bailout and thereis no risk of contagion.

    If I lived in “flyover country” in the US, and was a relgious sort… I would be on my knees every night, praying to the Sky Maniac for a hailstorm of daggers to hit Washington and New York.

    lol… I made a funny – hailstorm: град (Grad); dagger: Кинжал (Khinzal)

    Weirdly: one of my life’s ambitions was to learn to be comfortably reading Cyrillic. Thanks to American geopolitical imbecility, it’s been woth my time to really immerse myself in it.

    Enjoy your Monday bank-runs, America.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
    , @Odyssey
  42. Ron says:

    ” These individuals swore an oath to the American Constitution rather than to any particular American president…”

    The very heart of the matter. The fulcrum. The hinge.

    “In ancient Roman religion and myth, Janus…is the god of beginnings, gates, transitions, time, duality, doorways,…passages, frames, and endings. He is usually depicted as having two faces. The month of January is named for Janus (Ianuarius).

    Janus presided over the beginning and ending of conflict, and hence war and peace. The gates of a building in Rome named after him (not a temple, as it is often called, but an open enclosure with gates at each end) were opened in time of war, and closed to mark the arrival of peace. As a god of transitions, he had functions pertaining to birth and to journeys and exchange…” Wiki

    Once the process begins, things can go either way.

  43. Forgot to say…

    I haven’t read the NYT piece – even looking at the ‘banner’ of major US newspapers makes me slightly nauseous. The headline shown in the graphic mentions a ‘pro-Ukrainian group’.

    Is not the Biden government a “pro-Ukrainian group“?

    So the NYT wasn’t lying in the headline, at least. Small mercies and all that.

    I would have to read every word of the article to spot the point where they veered off into exculpatory fantasies, but I’m too drunk at present.

    • Thanks: PUTINFAN
  44. I can’t blame the world for hating us. Will they be able to make the distinction between ZOG and the Western peoples themselves when they finally unite to destroy us? I’m not hopeful, since so many of us can’t seem to make that distinction ourselves. Yet another negative consequence of failing to name the Jew.

    Jewish media control has to end.

  45. Anon[413] • Disclaimer says:

    I suppose that proves the French reputation as cowards is well deserved……..

  46. Anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:

    [Mullahs don’t want to destroy Israel, most of them are crypto jews. It’s a sham.]

    Iran is against zionism NOT jews dummy. If you have not understood this very basic fact, then shut up and fuck off from here idiot.

    • Agree: Deadbeat
  47. @nsa

    USians were are laughing stocks. Clowns, fools, turkeys and buffoons.

  48. A123 says: • Website

    On Friday geopolitical plates of tectonic scale may have visibly shifted as Iran and Saudi Arabia, two of the most important countries in the Middle East and erstwhile bitter adversaries, announced that they had reestablished diplomatic relations after a lengthy round of negotiations held with top Chinese officials in Beijing.

    Two countries that were inches away from war are now slightly less warlike with each other. That is not much of a realignment.

    Not-The-President Biden slighted the Saudi royal family several months ago. As a response that shows contempt for Droolin’ Joe and his offspring it is well measured.

    China needs more oil than either exporter can provide alone. Certainly it was in their interest to avoid issues with tanker movements through the Persian Gulf.

    Moves away from war are always welcome. However, this is a tiny step, no more.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  49. bj0311 says:

    These individuals swore an oath to the American Constitution rather than to any particular American president

    Me too and after three decades in uniform I now find I am a domestic terrorist for believing in my oath.

    • Replies: @Patriot420
  50. @meamjojo

    Why don’t you ask Twinkie to reveal who and how blew up the pipeline. Twinkle claims that crowdfunded intelligence with satellite and geopositioning data can count every single tank destroyed and identify who it belonged to so revealing who blew up the pipeline should be no problem for them. Come on, get those crowdfunded intelligence agents to tell the truth, Twinkie.

  51. @A123

    Russia has diplomatic relations with all those countries funding the war against it and arming its Ukrainian enemy, so I suppose Saudi Arabia and Iran establishing diplomatic relations is no big deal. But, on the other hand, it could be a big deal. We just have to see how it develops further. For example, will Saudi Arabia buy Russian weapons? Will peace be established in Yemen? Will Saudi Arabia join BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)?

    • Replies: @A123
  52. (…) the magnitude of this historical event (…)

    The English language has some very amusing idiosyncrasies:

    Historic describes something momentous or important in history.
    Historical simply describes something that belongs to an earlier period of history.

    ( from
    So, you should have used “historic” instead of “historical”.

  53. Never gonna hit the nail in the head if you keep refusing to take reality for what it actually is, are we. The Russia/China regime is choreographing with their terrorist USEUNATO conglomerate partners the deconstruction of the post-WW2 order to give way to an updated version of the same shit. That’s what’s behind their close coordination to respond to the fabricated COVID-19 global plandemic crisis and their immediate rollout of their fake and ineffective so-called “vaccines” which only served to immunise corporate-political regimes against any liability for force-selling to, and injecting the masses with their snake oil fuckery, all that crap paid for with taxes, plus effectively creating a state-sanctioned globalist “vaccine” and social control mafia.

    But the showbiz of selling misleading headlines is as booming as it’s ever been.

  54. Saba says:

    The stupid zionist propagandists, 123, are hiding the main aggressor, Israel NOT saudi Arabia.
    The zionist propagandists hide the hands of the Jewish mafia most of the time to fool the public. Saudi Arabia is only a COLONY and its ‘leaders’ are SERVANTS whose job is funding the zionist and imperialist’s TERRORISM in the region and sent her children to fight for the geopolitical interest of the enemy of Muslims, US and Israel. This picture has been sent into a toilet. The Saudis cannot cooperate with the enemy of humanity, Israel, without consultation with the greater Muslim community. This development sent the FAKE ‘Abraham Accords’ down into a garbage can and send a strong message that the Arab Muslims are not going to give blood or money for a criminal apartheid entity. It is the time MAFIA goes back to where they came from. The zionist liars read the following:
    Saudi Arabia denies visas to Israeli delegation attending UN event. So much for the gossip about KSA normalization with Tel Aviv.
    An Israeli delegation from the Galilee village of Kfar Kama, in northern occupied Palestine, was blocked from attending a UN tourism event in Saudi Arabia starting on 12 March after the kingdom denied them visas. The occupied village was among 32 sites the UN chose as “top rural tourism destinations … for their cultural and natural assets,” US media outlet Bloomberg reported.

    In July 2022, an Israeli journalist visiting Saudi Arabia for a regional conference sparked widespread criticism and condemnation after he snuck into the holy city of Mecca, which non-Muslims are strictly prohibited from entering. The journalist was seen taking selfies and was featured in an Israeli Channel 13 report pointing out sites and landmarks. Not long after, the kingdom detained the Saudi national who had helped him sneak in.
    Now, who is the ENEMY here, Iran or the zionist apartheid entity?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  55. Rich says:
    @Shitposter_in Chief

    Russia blowing up Nordstream would be like a boxer getting in the ring and punching himself in the face. Nordstream would eventually bring the Russians a lot of money and influence in Europe, blowing it up has made Western Europe a hostage to the US, now. It’s the same idiotic propaganda as when the Western media was saying the Russians were bombing the nuclear power plant in Zaporozhe while they had military possession of it. And people believed the Russians were firing on their own troops stationed in the nuclear power plant. Just realize that anything the US government says is a lie, and you’ll be much closer to the truth on any issue.

  56. sally says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Ron gave us the facts.. Well done Ron..
    Maybe you could outline the events that led to FDR’s time-suspicious death?

    It took Truman to drop the bomb,
    It took Truman to recognize Israel as a nation.
    It took Truman to claim for America (n oil companies) all of the land under the sea and 20 miles inland.
    It took Truman out of accounting for the Lend lease and WWII money, during WWII.
    It took a number of universities & industries out of answering for expansive growth during the war..
    It took Truman and Churchill to save NAZI scientist and industrialist and to bring them to America, England.
    A bunch of things changed when FDR died.. and

  57. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    The US has arrogantly overplayed its hand, treating everyone including supposed allies as mere vassals. The US had it all and threw it away. It was never a real country anyway despite trying to create the illusion of being one but has been just an economic empire, an ex-colony with a bunch of disparate people thrown in that grew quickly under fortuitous circumstances.
    The purpose of the great American lie machine is to keep its population bamboozled and on board with whatever their rulers deem to be important to the upper one percent. Outside of the English speaking sphere nobody falls for this tripe. We’re talking about billions of people who are developing and can no longer be threatened and coerced by the US who has taken on the role of a world vandal. Reality has a weight of its own and all the propaganda fairy tales and spin can’t in the end change that.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  58. nsa says:

    The ideas of Halford Mackinder should be revisited and studied in depth. The old Brit imperialist saw geography as destiny, and the World Island (eurasia-africa) as the great prize for marauding island empires. Nothing has changed in the last 120 years and successive waves of island empires (Brits, Japs, Yanks, etc) are still trying to attack and control the World Island and its vast population (6 Billion), great natural resources, and huge land area…….unsuccessfully. The latest island marauders are the yankee globohomoschlomos, their home base being the island of North America. Their only real inroad has been the conquering of the pathetic euroweanies inhabiting the western peninsula of the World Island north of the Mediterranean….soon to be lost when the pathetic euroweanies eventually wake up and rebel against their globohomoschlomo dick sucking elites. Note that the Eurasian portion of the World Island is now encased and protected by nuclear powers having distinct non-globohomoschlomo cultures, entirely opposed to the dick sucking degenerate marauding Yankee island empire flying the disgusting rainbow anal flag……..nuclear armed orthodox Russia on the west, nuclear armed hindu India on the south, nuclear armed China on the east, and the arctic to the north. The degenerate barbarous globohomoschlomos are going the way of the now dessicated Brit island empire….with no chance at all of ever controlling the World Island.

  59. Sean says:

    It is simply not true that the Americans or other Western countries’ officials were loudly saying/ implying that Russia had blown up the NordStream pipelines. Sweden asserted they knew who was responsible, but declined to clarify. It has now become obvious why the West did not react to the destruction of NordStream by condemning a putative/ probable Russian attack, or even that sabotage by ‘whoever it was’ . The reason they did not react much more strongly is they knew all along it was Ukraine not Russia.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  60. @Rich

    And USA blowing up the twin towers wasn’t?

    The pipelines weren’t in operation and Putin the pussy gets to complain that the whole world is out to get him (again).

    The US Government lies. The Russian government lies more

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  61. @anonymous

    Continental European countries, non-English speaking ones, are even less restrained than US in their support of the Ukraine. Look at France wanting to send planes even though US is saying that it doesn’t want to. Germany is sending more tanks than USA. East Europeans have given all their Soviet era weapons to the Ukraine. All of Western and East European countries, with the exception of Hungary and Serbia, are now extremely anti-Russian and pro-war. You can’t just blame all this on USA. If the Europeans are mere puppets then they’re most willing and enthusiastic puppets. If the EU were to say it wanted to trade with Russia so as to keep prices down and industrial productivity up, what could the US do to it? The EU could have excellent relations with Russia and PR China, refuse to partake in any sanctions, and it would prosper, but obviously it is just as hateful and irrational as the US and does not care if their countries suffer as long as they think they can somehow hurt Russia. There is no separating US and EU, they’re in this together.

    • Agree: Avery
    • Replies: @skrik
  62. @Zachary Smith

    What’s his problem publishing without the modest fee he might get from an academic journal?.Would the expectation of future citations be an adequate explanation?

  63. @Kratoklastes

    Mexico is applying to join BRICS. Bye bye Monroe Doctrine.

    AMLO has had it up to the back teeth with the sabre-rattling from the US government and has decided to throw in his country’s lot with a bloc that shows signs of being more likely to be trustworthy.

    Big problem with Mexico is Presidents can only sit for 1 term (6 years) by constitution. AMLO steps away in 2024. No coup necessary. If one president goes against Imperialist narrative, it’s only short term. IMO, it’s servitude by design.

  64. p38ace says:

    Like most Americans, I was shock by the Saudi reaction to 9/11. I expected the families of the 9/11 hijackers to be rounded up and beheaded. Not one family member was beheaded. We never realize the Saudis were so weak. If they are afraid of eliminating apostates to Islam, which is a simple task, then they are useless. FDR picked the wrong people to control our oil resources in Arabia.
    I say, give the Saudis to China. They deserve the pain.

    • Agree: meamjojo
  65. @nsa

    Mackinder had some good ideas, but his big mistake was the notion that Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Belarus) was a “geographical pivot” that would give control of the World Island. 120 years later, the list of entities that have held Eastern Europe but failed to conquer the Old World is: Tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and Ukraine itself. The idea is bunk.

  66. @Petermx

    You might want to take a look at “The Strange Death of Franklin D. Roosevelt”, by Emanuel Josephson. It’s viewable online. (I don’t know whether it is the source for our friend’s assertions, though. I’d have to read it to be sure.)
    (click on ‘Full View’)
    Here’s a related web article:

    • Thanks: Petermx
  67. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:

    Used to be, CIA’s greatest secret fear was revolution in Saudi. But now Langley fucked up so bad they got something even worse: Peace. Solidarity. Regional collective security in conformity with Chapter 8. Self-determination with the formal support of a nuclear-armed, economically predominant P-5 great power backed by the Group in Defense of the UN Charter.

    Turns out you can really galvanize the world if you commit sneak attacks with banned biological weapons, systematic and widespread medical experimentation under ulterior constrain and coercion, macro-scale sabotage, aggression by sending of armed bands and irregulars, systematic and widespread torture, war propaganda, and foreign intervention in breach of the absolute sanctified rule of law A/RES/20/2131. It’s clear now there is nothing CIA won’t do. They will end life on earth if they’re not stopped.

    Fortunately, Marlowe is like Redjac in Star Trek, scaring everybody to death until Kirk ran laughing gas through the ship’s HVAC and everybody got baked and Redjac turned out to be this frail little bald shnook and everybody’s laughing at him, pushing him around.

    For 60 years the world has known that the US command structure, CIA, is a criminal enterprise and hostis humani generis. They’ve methodically built doctrinal, legal, institutional, and technical means of stopping CIA criminality. CIA impunity has been the defining condition of contemporary history, and now it’s over. This transition is a process. The endgame is either general war – or we drag those fuckers out of Langley and string em up.

    Lose sight of the big picture here and you will be shitting blood in a refugee camp, or running around with your skin sloughed off and your eyeballs popped, or at best, dead.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  68. The zionist regime that controls America is a terrorist, criminal kabal and has had control over the ZUS since 1913 when the zionist bankers saddled their privately owned FED aka central bank and their IRS and then came wars and debt and deaths all for the benefit of the zionist banking kabal and their MIC aka military industrial complex.

    Iran and Saudi Arabia see the hand writing on the wall, Russia is defeating ZNATO and the ZUS in the Ukraine and are seeing the emperor has no clothes aka the ZUS and ZNATO are impotent against a real world class power in Russia and they are hedging their bets and no longer fear an impotent ZUS.

    China is under zionist control and all talk aka propaganda about a ZUS war with ZChina is all a diversionary smoke screen, I won’t believe a war will happen until ZUS companies exit ZChina, until then , it is all a diversion.

    Russia is not Iraq or Libya or Syria, where Israels and the ZUS attack on the WTC on 911 was blamed on the muslims to give the ZUS the excuse to destroy the middle east for Israel, Russia is a world class power and is stripping anyone of any illusions about the strength of Russia’s military.

    Russia has revealed for all the world to see, what a bully zionist controlled country the ZUS is.

  69. Ennui says:

    Do you think MBS represents a less bad faction of the royals whether because of inclination or incompetence? His relatives that he locked up are scoundrels, and Khashoggi was a P.O.S. who flirted with Islamists back in the day.

    I’d rather have MBS in power than bin Talal.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  70. @24th Alabama

    Biden,Blinken @Bloben

    This was also the intro to a Def Leppard song in the Eighties.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  71. @Anonymous

    Peace will be achieved on the last angloid and jew corpse.

  72. Some details of the Iran KSA rapprochement are significant, as is the event itself.

    Iran has acknowledged the support of Iraq in facilitating the agreement. This makes the Yankee departure from their so-called Green Zone more likely, perhaps more imminent. Iraq has been shamefully abused by USA.

    The second facilitator was a surprise to me anyway. Oman, which in the recent past has been more or less a client State of England.

    Rather like UAE (“Trucial States”) also, which has just declared an end to arms purchases from Israel. Lord Balfour prob turning in his grave.

    It does seem to be unravelling…

    Currently govt exchange Iran- Oman in progress.

    • Thanks: Iris
  73. FifthDim says:

    The magic bullet, the terrorist passport that fell from the airplane that hit the tower, the sail ship that destroyed two pipelines 200 m deep in the very calm Baltic Sea. What will be next, only the imagination of the US government will tell. Their imagination has no limits as long as the moronic Americans keep buying into such Mickey Mouse stories.

  74. nsa says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Agreed. The Heartland (now eastern europe) portion of Mackinder’s world view as being the key to conquering the World Island is typical Brit self-serving nonsense.

  75. @Vito Klein

    I remember during the Cold War my fellow Americans hating all “Russians.” Then I asked them, “Don’t you think that most citizens of the U.S.S.R. are victims of it rather than our enemies?”

  76. Ron Unz says:
    @Shitposter_in Chief

    Genuine question. Why is it absurd that Russia blew up Nord Stream?

    Your site openly posits that 9/11 was an inside job (which I lean towards), why is Russia incapable of doing this too?

    Actually, I’m extremely skeptical of the widespread “inside job” theory regarding the 9/11 Attacks. I think it’s utterly absurd and was probably concocted to divert attention away from the likely culprits or even make 9/11 Truthers look ridiculous. You might want to read my own analysis of that topic:

    Similarly, it makes absolutely no sense for Russia or Putin to destroy their own pipelines. Instead, a long list of top American leaders had been threatening to eliminate the pipelines and expressed great satisfaction when it happened. A top Polish political figure thanked America for destroying them. Meanwhile, the story totally vanished from the American MSM, a bit strange since it blames Russia for everything else.

    Hersh has pointed out that Biden could task his intelligence agencies to determine who destroyed the pipelines. The reason he hasn’t is because everyone knows who did it.

  77. Jim H says:

    ‘In some respects, it is America and the rest of the West that has actually become isolated.’ — Ron Unz

    ‘FOG IN CHANNEL, CONTINENT CUT OFF,’ as a possibly apocryphal 1940s British headline put it.

    Now pokey America has donned the mantle of heedless, know-nothing insularity.

    • LOL: Notsofast
  78. Ron Unz says:

    In retrospect, we invaded the wrong country in 2003. There are days when I think we should have toppled the duplicitous House of Saud (and their cronies in the U.S. while at it).

    Ha, ha, ha. You certainly sound like someone who spent the Iraq War period working very closely with the Neocons…

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  79. Fumanchu says:

    The idea of Christianity being a Jewish conspiracy against whites is right up there with the idea that JFK Jr. is still alive and poised to come out of hiding to reveal hidden truths. Because a 2000-year conspiracy carried out by a small group of people to conquer a larger group, where the former erect an organization and a civilization that will then keep the latter in check and indeed prove to be the former’s most formidable foe for many centuries—yeah, seems plausible.

    • Replies: @nos2
  80. barr says:
    @Commentator Mike

    WTC 1993 offers a clue . So does anthrax attack.

    Salem was given actual bomb instead of false bomb without him knowing ( NY times ) . There were informants , there were handlers and polciy making towards ‘ false bombing’ at high level .
    Question is who the informants ,who the handlers were and what the policy was at the highest level?

  81. barr says:

    It is unlikley .Russia did not clamp down on domestic dissesnsions. Russia did not mount attack on Germany or Poland . Russia did not start withdrawing from conatcts with US.It did not throw out the embassy . It did not stop asking for negotiation with Ukraine .It did not stop asking for sanction relief to get the gas flow to Europe . Russia did not start blaming anybody within 4 hours of the incident. The defense minister of Russia did not say , ” “Hard to get good case. Need to move swiftly,” “Near term target needs – go massive – sweep it all up, things related and not.”(

    Above all Russia did not kill its own citizen with biological weapons . Neither issued Patritot Act nor it incraesed surveillance .

    • Replies: @KA
  82. 6 weeks ago, I saw this coming.
    Comment over at Sailer.back in January.

    The big event of 2022 wasn’t Putin finally having enough of the ziocon shit, it was Xi’s visit to S.A.
    I’ve said this before:

    Recall that just a few weeks before Biden, or what passes as Biden, had arrived in Riyadh to beg for more oil, got an Uber from the airport and was greeted by a fist bump. His two hour meeting was attended by several other characters, none of any note, before he was told to piss off home empty handed.
    Xi Jinping however, had his plane escorted by Saudi Jets- I thought I counted seven, and upon landing was welcomed by a cannonade and a flypast of planes painting the sky in the colors of the Chinese flag. The Saudi King went to the airport to greet him; The king an old and infirm man who walks with a cane, not MBS. The three day visit mapped out the energy future for the World, the future of the Petro-Yuan and the death of the Dollar.
    Who knew that demonizing as a murderer the most influential player in the commodity that props up one’s hegemony and sending carny barkers like Blinken to upbraid him for insufficiently celebrating sodomy would have consequences?

    Xi got the welcome he did because the Saudi’s are going into partnership with the Chinese. The Chinese approach to International Affairs is Win-Win, a contrast with the US’s Because We Said So.
    Among the projects, one of many to develop the country away from oil production. Saudi Arabia has energy up the wazoo in the form of Solar as well as hydrocarbons so mega-watt guzzling server farms (And BitCoin Miners) are a great fit. The excess heat, of course, will be used in the desalination plants that Saudi needs. So this is a triple win- Saudi, China and the asshole Greens.
    MBS’s main concern is, I’m sure, avoiding being murdered by the Washington Filth. ( I’ve always thought that’s what the DC Baseball Team should be called).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  83. Rich says:

    You think the ragtag Ukrainian navy was able to blow up Nordstream? I don’t know, I guess that might have been possible, except that’s what the Biden administration said. As soon as they came out with that, it obviously wasn’t the Ukrainians.

  84. @Sean

    “It has now become obvious why the West did not react to the destruction of NordStream by condemning a putative/ probable Russian attack, or even that sabotage by ‘whoever it was’ . The reason they did not react much more strongly is they knew all along it was Ukraine not Russia.”

    Or maybe because they knew all along it was the US with maybe a Brit or two as well?

    • Replies: @Sean
  85. @Saba

    The underlying issue is simple. For some decades Imperial Foreign Policy has been in the hands of a Bronze Age Death Cult.
    (ht Zman)

    • Agree: Iris
  86. @James N. Kennett

    In Mackinder’s time it may have been bunk because you could move things and people a lot quicker by sea. Now there are I understand pretty good rail links with more in the pipeline.

  87. This is a well written thought-provoking article. One key point therein (if I understand correctly) is that Americans, on the whole, are less aware of what is really happening in the world (with respect to US activities) than many persons in other countries. That seems credible. The Chinese interview of Hersh is revealing. Mr. Hersh is a top level journalist. How can his vision be clouded on what seems obvious (regarding 9/11) to other informed persons? Hmmm. On the subject of selective awareness: Mr. Unz is also top level, arguably in the class that includes Mr. Hersh. But for a long time I have wondered how could his vision remain clouded on what seems obvious to others – the risks (dangers) of the experimental gene-therapy shots being (tyrannically?) imposed on us. Is Dr. Aseem Malhotra a quack? Is Dr. McCullough? Dr. Cole? Dr. Malone? (Or thousands of other highly qualified doctors?) Is Mr. Whitney a “conspiracy theorist”? Are the VAERS data an illusion? Are the thousands of young athletes dying from a Martian attack?

    Recently Dr. Naomi Wolf (another brilliant journalist) confessed that she had been taken in by our propaganda machine. She apologized, thereby earning a level of respect perhaps unprecedented in today’s world. Should we all (myself included) learn from this?

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  88. @Twinkie

    In retrospect, we invaded the wrong country in 2003. There are days when I think we should have toppled the duplicitous House of Saud (and their cronies in the U.S. while at it).

    This is Israeli, YidCon BS.

    The right country would have been Yidrael.

    Still time.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  89. Brosi says:

    One can only fantasize.

    LOL. Twinkie the liar’s fantasies. They all involve back channel shock and awe invasions by Pup Ravage.

  90. @Ron Unz

    Hersh also stated that they used an extremely complex plan using normal Navy divers, instead of SOCOM to avoid alerting the gang of 8, because of secrecy concerns (ludicrous, they’re all neocons), but apparently a random Polish politician was in the loop?

    Who’s to say that Biden hasn’t tasked his intelligence agencies to find out who did it? You know they keep a lot of stuff secret and DON’T brief the world on their findings.

    Thanks for your link BTW, here’s a freebie not many people know about

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Ron Unz
  91. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones

    The United States has a population of around 350 million; China has a population more than 3 times that. The Chinese have 300,000 people (at least) with an IQ of 160 or higher; the Jewnited States has maybe 10,000 with an IQ of 160 or above. Even when adjusting for population, geniuses are to be found much more often in the Chinese Han population than in the American one. China is now the workshop of the world, and has a world-class military ally in Russia. If the Jews start killing Chinese civilians as they have Iranian ones, then you are going to finally see the swift and severe punishment the Israelis have been begging for since before Joe Biden petted his first underage victim. That said, I do think the Jews will try to cut a deal with China, and likely already have. My hope is that the Chinese understand Jew duplicity and never let them near the levers of power in any institution China and the non-ZOG world control. If they pivot to you, it is because they wish to control you and, ultimately, destroy you. China must learn from the US example, and must be willing to listen to the Russians as it relates to the Jews. Everywhere they go, the people suffer.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  92. @Carlton Meyer

    The British didn’t have 20 000 hydrogen bombs.

    • Replies: @Avery
  93. @Jim Yost

    There is a possibility George Bush 2 is Aleister Crowley’s grandson. P < .5 but Barb sure did look like the beast.

    • Replies: @Kim Jong Il
  94. Wild Man says:

    With this now in the works (i.e. – Xi Jinping as potential peace-maker):

    , ….. maybe Putin has, behind the scenes, been working on that angle, all a long, and that is why Paul Craig Roberts is confused by Putin’s reticence towards scaling the war up quicker, …. perhaps Xi Jinping does not want that. If Putin is now claiming (for at least the past year) that the west has no value as arbiter of anything, on the geopolitical scene (hampered by too much scoring-on-own-goal), …. then who remains as potential grand arbiter?

    Maybe our prayers are being answered (to avert war war 3). Let’s see what happens.

  95. @James N. Kennett

    i am sure mackinder is a cryptojew adopted by an occultist catholic couple.

  96. @Emil Nikola Richard

    in an interview by a gay magazine, george bush said that his real grandfather is jack the ripper.

  97. Avery says:
    @Shitposter_in Chief

    { but apparently a random Polish politician was in the loop?}

    Where did you get the idea that the Polish politician was, quote, “in the loop”, or that Ron intimated anything of the sort.

    You don’t have to be ‘in the loop’ to be:

    1. A Polish politican with a visceral hatred of Russians (yes, I know, it’s redundant).


    2. A jointly owned Russian-German gas pipeline misteriously blows up.

    3. There is nothing — zero, zilch — Russia would gain by causing itself $10s of billions in damages to a pipeline that brings in Western hard currency to her treasury.

    4. If Russia wanted to cause economic harm to Germany and EU, Russia could simply turn the gas off at the source. Little known factoid: the source of the natural gas is deep inside Russia, not in EU.

    5. There is NO known instance whereby Russia has abrogated its commercial contracts for political considerations. Russia fullfills its existing contract obligtions even to unfriendly nations.

    And you don’t have to be ‘in the loop’:

    6. To reach the reasonable, logical conclusion that when Victoria Nuland and President Biden openly promise to stop NS2 by any means, then US/NATO are the most likely suspects, and to celebrate, if you are Polish politican filled with irrational, visceral hatred of Russia.

  98. Avery says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    No country is known to possess 20,000 hydrogen bombs.

    US and Russia have ~6,000 warheads, mostly tactical.
    The entire world has an estiamted ~12,000 warheads, mostly tactical.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  99. “”””Twenty million people including well over a million Americans have died from this global epidemic “””

    Twenty million killed by covid???? Why does unz always accept “official” numbers.

    Maybe 200,000.

  100. Sean says:

    Or maybe because they knew all along it was the US with maybe a Brit or two as well?

    So why didn’t they loudly proclaim it had been Russia, instead of waiting a long time and them blaming Ukraine, which is being promoted in the West as the heroic, of all countries?

  101. This is a result of being on the wrong side.

    Basically, for us Europeans it is that we detest Russian imperialist predatory behavior in Ukraine & see it as the remake of Hitler’s obsession with Lebensraum & Sudetenland.

    The only solution is that the aggressor (Germans, Russians) be kicked out. For Ukrainians it is the heroic struggle for re-birth of their nation. For those who are close to them & who see it clearly, from Baltic states on – there can be no compromise here. Russians must be kicked out & their behavior in international relations changed.

    As far as America goes- it is, finally, on the right side (whichever her motives).

    And as history and culture go- Russians have screwed themselves royally. They do not belong in company with China, Iran or Saudi Arabia- completely alien cultures & mentalities that have nothing to do with the historical West, where Russia belongs.

    But- talking to people who have no sense of justice, no sense of history, no knowledge of culture…is a waste of time.

    • Troll: Rurik
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  102. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:

    Poor Twinkie in 79 re the duplicitous House of Saud.

    If you think of the WTC demolition as a contract, the Saudis were subs. Their tasking included staffing “terrorists” (goons whose job is to run around, drop breadcrumbs, and look menacing.) Israel supplied some of those too, notably one of the duplicate Attas. Richard Blee at CIA ran them.

    Saudis also carried out a key technical task: crippling the emergency hijacking procedures by which FAA alerts DoD. An actual registered Saudi terrorist did that job. MITRE ran that work with a cutout firm called P-Tech.

    By contrast, Israel was the prime contractor, responsible for the all-important demolition work.

    But the contracting officer was CIA DO. No foreign organization had the precise control to coordinate exercises, botch interceptions, and protect VIPs.

  103. nos2 says:

    I see you’re a christcuck. Jews wouldn’t have had any power if christcuckery never became the religion of Europe.

    • Replies: @Fumanchu
  104. cohen says:

    Another fraud of Jeffery Sachs or daylight robbery is his appearances on TV and his acting like a renegade. The host of the show disconnecting Jeferry’s microphone in the middle of his screaming making him a “Rebel with a future agenda”. If Jeff is so bad then why on earth they kept inviting him over and over and disconnecting him. I was disappointed to see the fake show in the Oscar nomination. The best fake performance. A pure circus to make his image of a real opposition.

    Jeffery should be asked about his whistle blowing passion that only gravitates around selected political topics. Why not he talks about Pharma, Fed reserve bank (after all this subject is something he should know more than Covid or Pipeline explosion), UN corruption, worthless projects of the World Bank in environmental arenas.

    It is funny that the world bank environmental bank environmental standards are xeroed from EPA environmental protection guidelines or standard and were fitted with the World Bank Logo. I am not joking.

    In one of the meetings where a project manager from the WB kept bragging about the billions and billions dollars the bank was spending. I asked the bragger if he could name one single successfully completed project in the environmental areas? Anyone could guess the answer.

    And let us not forget this fascination with PhD degree holders. They are not automatically experts on subjects that they dont have any clues on. Jeffery, an economics degree holder usually brags on his resume the Chairman of Covid commission, Question for those delusional fans of Mr. Sachs? How would they feel if someone with a Phd in Music, or theology or ancient languages would be suitable as head of Federal Communication, or NSA. They sure have PhDs.

    Here is a true story. All those PhDs, and professors in the entire world, during the biggest environmental disaster were unable to cap the leak in the oil pipeline (Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico). It was solved by a plumber from Ohio. No big fanfare. No movies or books. I can find anything on the guy I was interested in seeing the sketch.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  105. If this is just the start, China can really get this going despite the incoming USA sabotage, it will really be the start of something huge.

  106. Another example of Russian anti-white policy:

    Italy blames surge in migration on Russia’s Wagner group

    ROME, March 13 (Reuters) – The Italian government on Monday said Russian mercenary group Wagner was behind a surge in migrant boats trying to cross the central Mediterranean as part of Moscow’s strategy to retaliate against countries supporting Ukraine.

    “I think it is now safe to say that the exponential increase in the migratory phenomenon departing from African shores is also, to a not insignificant extent, part of a clear strategy of hybrid warfare that the Wagner division is implementing, using its considerable weight in some African countries,” Defence Minister Guido Crosetto said in a statement.

    Some 20,000 people have reached Italy so far this year, compared to 6,100 in the same period of 2022, interior ministry figures show, and the migration issue is piling pressure on the rightist government.

    • Agree: TKK
    • LOL: Arthur MacBride
    • Troll: Rurik
  107. Ron Unz says:
    @Shitposter_in Chief

    Thanks for your link BTW, here’s a freebie not many people know about

    Sure, I heard about the Mexican Parliament incident at the time it happened and I certainly included it in my 9/11 articles. But thanks for the very comprehensive Wikispooks link, which I’d never previously looked at.

    Hersh also stated that they used an extremely complex plan using normal Navy divers, instead of SOCOM to avoid alerting the gang of 8, because of secrecy concerns (ludicrous, they’re all neocons), but apparently a random Polish politician was in the loop?

    Radek Sikorski obviously wasn’t personally briefed on the secret attack, it’s just that he’s married to a leading Neocon journalist and travels in those circles, so he and everyone he knows simply assumed that America had destroyed the pipelines.

    When Jeffrey Sachs was talking to a top MSM journalist he’d known for 40 years, he was told “Of course America destroyed the pipelines—who else could have possibly done it?” Meanwhile, the man’s own newspaper was accusing the Russians.

    It’s obviously possible that the Russians or the Ukrainians did it. In his interviews, Hersh has joked that it might have actually been the Somalis or the Nepalese. But 99% of knowledgeable people immediately assumed the Americans had played a central role.

    Depending upon your interest level, you might want to read a couple of my articles on the topic:

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  108. Levtraro says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Basically, for us Europeans …

    Lol, so you represent all Europeans? Are you Josep ‘racist-gardener’ Borell?

    Try again, starting with such a stupid opening sentence is a don’t-read-further sign.

    Just present your opinion as yours, don’t speak for other people.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  109. Agent76 says:

    February 23, 2023 China’s Important Document entitled “US Hegemony and Its Perils”

    Introductory Note: The Chinese document “US Hegemony and its Perils” just came out on 20 February 2023.

    It is very important – and says: Since becoming the world’s most powerful country after the two world wars and the Cold War, the United States has acted more boldly to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, pursue, maintain and abuse hegemony, advance subversion and infiltration, and willfully wage wars, bringing harm to the international community.

    Why did China surround itself with so many U.S.Bases?

  110. Fumanchu says:

    And I see you are a Jew simply from your response. Always attack or smear the person, and never actually debate the issue or put forth anything relevant. It’s comical how folks like you look at the current reign of Jewry, which only happened precisely because Christianity has declined, as proof of their 2000-year conspiracy theory.

    • Replies: @nos2
  111. ariadna says:

    He’s right: looks like the US “can’t do squat about it.” Can’t win from losing on all fronts.

  112. Protogonus says: • Website

    Again we recommend that a sincere U.S. President (if one ever appears) award Mr. Unz with the Medal of Freedom for meritorious service to the nation and Mankind.

    • Agree: Iris
  113. Anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:

    Great interview of Seymour Hersh by the very astute and articulate Chinese lady. (I think her English was even better than his.) Sadly, Mr. Hersh, like most paleo-liberals dating back to the Vietnam war, such Noam Chomsky and Chris Hedges, insists upon mercilessly blaming Putin in entirety for the hellacious ongoing war in Ukraine when anyone without the obligatory demonisation of Donald Trump should know, if they have the capacity for logic and reason, that Barack Obama and his minion Joe Biden precipitated the entire sequence of hostile events leading to the war with the initiation of the Maidan Coup under the auspices of the bipartisan Neocon lunatics. Moreover, the ultimate clear provocation for Putin to move his troops across the border was the 200,000 Ukie soldiers, recruited, trained, equipped and paid by the US and its Nato vassals ready to pounce upon the break-away Donbas oblasts in what had long ago become a Ukrainian civil war and which had already claimed the lives of 14,000 ethnic Russians by means of Ukrainian genocide. Sorry, Mr. Hersh, though I applaud the rest of your latest corpus of work relating to Russia, Ukraine, Germany and the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines, your making Putin the ultimate cause of this great evil simply shows how refractory entire generations of Americans, raised to hate everything to do with Russia and its leaders, remain when it comes to assigning the proper blame for all the wars blighting this planet.

    I also detect significant bias in your prima facia condemnation of all things Trump. I will agree with anyone who says that Trump, being the first and only non-politician to ever be elected to the office of the presidency, was a failed president. This was mostly due to the fact that he had no connections and no allies in the political arena or in the military, he was attacked by all sides from the moment of his election, and those receiving high appointments acted only to develop their own political careers. The Republican party offered tepid support while the Dems sandbagged him with charges of treason and Russian collusion. These slanders were supposed to defeat him in the election after mass media and the corporate world vigorously pushed his candidacy in the primaries because they all expected him to lose biggly to Killary in the main event. I’m sure even the Donald was surprised that he won. His demise was supposed to inhere in the extreme racism he was accused of throughout the campaign which started as soon as he opined that the illegal immigration of various criminal types should be better controlled with, among other policies, the construction of a border fence. That rap was supposed to be golden for the Democrats who prefer totally open borders and even the voting franchise for illegal migrants. It presumably guaranteed victory for Killary and utter cancellation for Mr. Trump in American society. That theory did not prevail in the first election vs Ms. Clinton, but did so with bells on in the second against the near comatose Joe Biden of whom even Barack Obama spoke disparagingly during the campaign. Mr. Hersh was clearly well-conditioned in his long-term, simply dismissive and knee-jerk, bias against Trump, though he admittedly could have constructed very valid objections to his candidacy and performance in office. I’ve gotta say, that going on the long-term record in a fifty-year long career in politics, Joe Biden has hands down the worst record imaginable. He’s been a chronic liar, warmonger and abuser of office for personal (and family) gain. He’s not very knowledgeable, articulate, or judicious in the policies or people he supports. As his old boss Obama said, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”

    So, come on, Mr. Hersh. You still got game as a journalist, rightfully gutting the Biden administration for its bellicose moves against its own allies in its favorite war against Russia and Putin, but let’s try for greater accuracy and consistency in the entire bigger picture instead of clinging to your obsolete knee-jerk propaganda points left over from the Cold War. Look, if I can change my perceptions of political reality, so can you. I voted for Slick Willie and Obomber twice, before I saw what lying hypocrites they and their party were. Hell, I voted for Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern. Never again. They are fully committed to the same *outcomes* as the GOP. They just tell different lies to get your votes, and collude with the traitors on the other side of the aisle once ensconced in power. At age 85, you supposedly have 10 more years of accumulated wisdom that do I. Trump and Putin are NOT the cause of all these problems and you should know this. Stop parroting Dem talking points, especially when they come from the likes of Killary and fools like Wassermann-Schultz.

  114. anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Unz Fanboy 1

    WHAT my checking/savings accounts are empty???? zero balances? where is my money? IN ISRAEL…?? Jews did it again..

  115. nos2 says:

    Yea I’m a big Jew. And Jews would have zero power if Europe wasn’t Christian and you can clearly observe this fact when you compare Rome to medieval Europe where throughout the entirety of medieval European history, Jews had always gained and lost power but more emphasis on the gain where they eventually took control of everything. The idea that Jews only gained power because of christians becoming less Christian is ridiculous when you examine the historical trends. Christcucks worship a Jewish-cannaite pagan god called Baal whom they call Christ or the 3 in 1 combo pack!

    • Replies: @Fumanchu
  116. Folkvangr says:

    Just like his buddy Bernie, Jeffrey talks a lot about ending poverty, but I have never heard him talk about sealing our southern border. I think he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, just like all his fellow communist scum.

    • Troll: Olivier1973
  117. Rurik says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    and here’s a map that shows the whole world, of which Rothschild’s fiefdom (your map) is but a part

    here’s an almost duplicate map that shows recognition of Palestine


    here’s another map that shows ((NATO)) nations. (NATO is the belligerent organization that bombed the snot out of Libya, for instance, and will bomb any nation that looks cross-eyed at Israel).

    all these maps that show the West as a consolidated block, are what we call (((The Unilateral Power))), or the Empire of Lies, or ZOG, and other quaint descriptions.

    And it is a distinction of national shame to belong to it. It means your nation has no sovereignty, and is but a vassal state of the West’s ((Central Banks)), that call all the shots in their vassal states.

    The reality, is that those people have been conquered and enslaved. They are currently all being invaded by armies of hostile foreigners, who’re given perks and other benefits that are denied the indigenous citizens – who’re slated for replacement and to be blended out of existence. Genocide, in other words.

    So belonging to the highlighted nations of those maps, are nothing to brag about. Just the opposite, as they also generally show the nations with transgender five-year olds, and radical feminists and other blessings of ZOG enslavement.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  118. @Bardon Kaldian

    And the next topic is:

    Good to see you doing your part.
    Serfdom Now!
    Serfdom Forever!

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  119. @Bardon Kaldian

    LOL. Now you have revealed yourself as a peddler of lies and misinformation by regurgitating what other liars and misinformers say. But even if it were true, why isn’t Italy defending itself from these African invaders? Oh no, instead Italy wants to defend UkroZioNazis from the Wagner group while picking up these Africans and bringing them into Italy.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  120. @Ron Unz

    Rule Ukrainia,
    Ukrainia Rules The Waves!

    The Ukies did it.

  121. @Bardon Kaldian

    Who cares? Those countries in blue are rapidly becoming the New Third World while Russia and China will be leading the soon to be former Third World. And you’re welcome to the worst trash and scum from the asylums, jails, and streets of that soon to be former Third World cleansing itself of its rapists, murderers and other assorted criminals by sending them to you to be welcomed by your women, homos and liberals while your Nazis go to die in the Ukraine. Russia never wanted this, but you did and you got it.

  122. This message is for anyone who reads my posts.

    Ron Keeva Unz writes:

    Over a decade ago, I had described these powerful trends, which have now become obvious to the entire world.”

    Ron Keeva Unz does not miss a chance to take credit for anything significant that takes place on earth!

    On earth, Ron Keeva Unz probably ranks second to opportunistic fame-seeker (aka so-called “Clandestine Journalist”) Seymour Myron Hersh in taking credits for any significant geo-political event.

  123. @Rurik

    Shitholers united.

    India, China, Russia, Islamistan, Africa…. pile of garbage, terrorism, tyranny & obscurantism.

    • Troll: Olivier1973
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Ennui
  124. cohen says:

    Is anyone paying attention what Chuck Schumer is up to regarding run on the banks?

    Time to make more money for those who have it

  125. Dr. Doom says:

    You all live in “interesting times”. The Entire World is changing.
    The Post-WWII order is dying, as the West pursues DIEversity instead of aptitude.

    Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and now Saudi Arabia are taking advantage.
    Any deluded Bagel Boyz that believed they could Genocide White Men and stay on top.

    Now White Men are rediscovering Ethnic Solidarity. Sayonara Zion Pigs.

    Saudi Arabia saw Uncle Sham run away like the mighty chicken in Afghanistan.
    MBS and the oil sheiks are going towards The Strong Horse.

    India is beginning to sway towards this New Alliance.
    Although the Gungas don’t want to shit the cozy nests of the CEO ranks in the West.

    The whole Zion Shit Sandwich is crumbling faster than a cheap donut in hot coffee.
    NATO cannot backstop Ukraine. Uncle Sham is watching his finances burn down.

    This can STILL TURN OUT WELL. White Men need to Step Up.
    The duck hunters and the angry veterans can K I L L the Crazy Times.

    3% is the Magic Number for a Dedicated Revolution to SUCCEED.
    100,000 White Men need to March on Washington, and cut off the power.

    DIEversity will implode under the stress of NO MORE BREAD AND CIRCUSES.
    Hell. 24 hours without EBT and those damn dirty apes will go CHIMP OUT 1000!

    Six to Ten Days Later. Just clean up and sweep out the mess.
    The New World Order is NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN about “zionism”.

    Its a New Holy Roman Empire stretching across The Entire World.

    To Hell with the “zionists”, neo-babylonians, satanists and their would be brown slaves.
    To the Stars. Space Stations, Moon Bases, Martian Colonies…

  126. KA says:

    Those kinds of reaction – Hard to get a good case- show at a minimum,911 was a god sent opportunity of doing something that was not possible before but was very much in the planning phase .At worst it tells that Rumsfiled and his fellow workers in the cabjnet knew 911 would happen ,was waiting for it , and his team had planned how to use it to its advantage.
    Only shocked reaction was shown by dumb Bush jr.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  127. PUTINFAN says:
    @Vito Klein

    I think you will be forgiven just as the Germán people were forgiven. But you have to survive the hypersonics, tactical nukes, the hangmen and destruction of the grid.

    I wish you well my dear friend, your path is perilous, and you have a lot friends from afar, but I fear you face 10 years of hell.

  128. PUTINFAN says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks for posting the book about you and your ancestors. Are you the writer? Do you consider it a biography or is it an autobiography?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Odyssey
  129. anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    No, Europe did not do the most to create advanced civilization, especially after the founding of the USA. Also a part of The Narrative. For example, the printing press was available for centuries in EastAsia, long before Gutenberg. Same with smallpox inoculation. Nobody on earth overrates themselves as much as continental Europeans. All the USA needs to do to burn the place down is leave.

    “18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”

    – Proverbs 16:18

    Disagree: petermx

    • Disagree: Petermx
    • Troll: Malla, ariadna
    • Replies: @Petermx
    , @Malla
  130. anon[168] • Disclaimer says:
    @Shitposter_in Chief

    The Hersh story is full of holes and the MSM narrative is ludicrous. Apparently one of the four pipelines was totally undamaged.

  131. TKK says:

    Listening to Ron’s outstanding reading of his important article leaves me with the following question:

    Is the Western media’s refusal to cover this act of terrorism by America against a supposed NATO ally due to:

    – being captured completely by the Biden Administration and an “approved” list of events or

    – have Western journalists lost any interest in covering world events that are not salacious or sensational, akin to gossip?

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  132. @Zachary Smith

    There seem to be a lot of flabby souled academics in C Canada (OK I can give you examples at least as bad from 1970s and my first great judicial mentor and friend nurtured his from time immemorial).

    Try this if you think the protesters were shot by their own side.

  133. Rurik says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Shitholers united.

    India, China, Russia, Islamistan, Africa…. pile of garbage, terrorism, tyranny & obscurantism.

    you have it backwards

    under More tag for too many photos


    it’s Paris and London that are inviting Africans (and Arabs and Pakistanis and others..) to replace their citizens, and creating massive shitholes where once pleasant and civilized people lived.

    Whereas China and Russia and others are ascendant, and respect their heritage and cultures, while the Rothschild’s shithole nations squat and take a steaming shit on their cultures and heritage and people, as ‘evil and racist and homophobic’.

    The streets of Moscow don’t have Africans shitting on the sidewalks, and accosting all the Russian women who’re brave or unlucky enough to walk by.

    just looking at the women walking in Moscow, reminded me of those Mary Tyler Moore shows at the beginning, when she was so happy to be in Minneapolis

    It’s Europe and North America that are transforming into shitholes as I write this.

    Minneapolis today under ZOG’s stewardship

  134. Malla says:

    The old Brit imperialist saw geography as destiny, and the World Island (eurasia-africa) as the great prize for marauding island empires.

    I think Mackinder spoke about Eurasia but not Africa. Where did Africa come from?

    Nothing has changed in the last 120 years and successive waves of island empires (Brits, Japs, Yanks, etc) are still trying to attack and control the World Island and its vast population (6 Billion), great natural resources, and huge land area…….unsuccessfully.

    Bullshit. The British Empire had nothing to do with controlling any world island but simply a result of inter European competition. This was the same with Japan up to some extent. Japan’s expansion during WW2 was driven by a threat of Communism and instigations in China and later sanctions by the USA.

    • Replies: @rushed boob job
  135. Seraphim says:

    Let’s remind that there are exactly 100 years since the definitive edition of Oswald Spengler’s ”Der Untergang des Abendlandes/The Downfall of the Occident”, published in English in 1926 as ‘The Decline of the West”, and his predictions came true.
    Namely, that the West was in its “evening”, similar to the late Roman Empire, and approaching its eventual decline despite its seeming power and braggadocio. The ‘Western world’, or the ‘Faustian Civilization’, was ending and the final season, the “winter”, was being witnessed. ‘Western Man’ compared by Spengler with the Goethean Faust, was a proud but tragic figure because, while he strives and creates, he secretly knows the actual goal will never be reached, ”striving for the wind”, but ready to make a pact with the Devil for power, knowledge, or material gain. The ‘real’ Faust was irrevocably damned because he prefers human knowledge over divine knowledge.
    He saw the rise of the ‘East’ which would fill the vacuum left by the bursting of the ‘Faustian balloon’.

  136. harfang67 says:

    Fantastic Mr Unz! Thank you very much.

    We really don’t know what to Do. We’re (North A merica) being brought down to using survival actions. Canada is not there yet but we are soo small.

    I’m no specialist but to save America from those international bankers who run (no democracy here man!) the whole thing in the western world we have to be proactive now with the countries whose power-base is people not money. I think we are fighting the Antichrist, période. Just read the Apocalypse. It’s a battle worth dying for.

  137. Kevpkick says:

    Everybody knows it was Lee Harvey Oswald who blew up the pipelines, and he did it all by himself.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  138. Good post. Notice in the first picture a “Mercator Map” is used which distorts the actual size of the continents in favor of the Northern Hemisphere. This effectively makes the casual observer think an equal portion of the World is in favor of sanctioning Russia which is not true.

    Whereas in the second “Robinson Map”, the size of the continents are closer to reality (actual size) which allows the casual observer to see that a large portion of the Earth recognizes Palestine, which is true.

  139. Ennui says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Remind me, what exactly did the lands of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth give the rest of us in terms of civilization and technology? I mean besides obscure ethnic conflicts, polka music, potato pastries, traumatized Ashkenazi immigrants, and embroidered blouses. Is the embroidery how your grandparents identified each group before the massacres or was it something else? “Hey guys, that shepherd has his sheep skin vest hanging off his LEFT shoulder, let’s go get him!”

    What you need is an inbred Hapsburg back in charge to tell you what to do (dead serious on this).

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  140. Odyssey says:

    The simplest and easiest is Serbian Cyrillic. It is phonetic and each sound represents one letter. There are no diphthongs and other exhibitions. It is also simpler than Russian Cyrillic, which has diphthongs Ю (yu), Я(ya), Щ(sc), ё(yo), etc. In Serbian Cyrillic, each letter is pronounced the same in each word, regardless of whether it is at the beginning, at the end or in the middle of the word.

    Bernard Shaw planned to transform the English alphabet into a phonetic one modelled on the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet. English is unwieldy, even native speakers can’t read less used words without spelling or write a dictation without spelling. Many letters are pronounced in different ways, and you never know how they are pronounced in less used words.

    It takes a foreigner less than 5 minutes to learn Serbian Cyrillic, and immediately all texts in Serbian can be read without error. That’s why children already know all the letters at the age of three or four and can read simple words.

    Compare the eng. name Tchaikovsky, or, in German – Tschaikowski, where 4 letters stand for one voice, which in Cyrillic is only ‘Ч’. (I do not claim that this is why German panzer brigadiers are the dumbest). English ‘Charles’ in Serbian would be – Чарлс.

    Maybe the fact that the Serbian language is the oldest in Europe and that the Vinča script is the oldest in the world contributes to the previous, but maybe not. Bon voyage!

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz, Levtraro
    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  141. @TKK

    I find it fascinating that you call the US govt as the biden administration.

    Propaganda really works. lol.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @TKK
  142. Miro23 says:

    A half-century earlier many of the young GIs serving in Vietnam had been deeply impressed by his honest war reporting, and during the decades that followed some had risen very high within our military and intelligence establishments. These individuals swore an oath to the American Constitution rather than to any particular American president, and many of them were appalled at the idiocy of the Biden Administration’s decision to destroy Europe’s energy pipelines, providing Hersh with the detailed account that he published.

    If anyone is going to prevent WW3 and return the US to sanity it’s these people.

  143. Fumanchu says:

    Please be more detailed. I want to know exactly how a 2000-year conspiracy is brought about. Let’s see the blueprint. I want names, dates, and secret handshakes. So far I have yet to see anything of substance from you. But hey, there is a market for such stuff. Just ask Grifter Green.

  144. Odyssey says:

    You are not far from the truth. It is a member of the only identified genocidal group in the world that committed the most monstrous crimes and genocides never seen before in human civilization and whose ALL members justify that genocide to this day. They are one of few groups that 100%, without a single exception, support the Ukrainian Nazis against the Russians.

    We currently lack a term to label this phenomenon. The situation in Ukraine is just a trigger, but that term should have a universal meaning. That’s why we asked a research question:

    “What do Nazis (classical and new age), Zionists, Satanists, fags, transvestites, frustrated, various mental, physical and social deviations (homo, globo, lesbo, psycho, trano, jojo, +,…), genocidal groups (only one has been identified, so far – Croats), members of small recently created puppet creations promoted to be banana-state/nations and morons (IQ<60) have in common to immediately, no questions asked – 100% of them (that is a KEY criterion) – without any reservations, side with the so-called ‘Ukies’ against the so-called ‘Russians’?

    • Agree: JR Foley
  145. “Russia, China, Iran and… Saudi Arabia?”

    Is “Saudi Arabia” code for “Israel”? As diversity slowly devours the USA from within don’t be surprised when Israel jumps ship to find some new Greatest Allies.

  146. Odyssey says:

    Douglas Macgregor (in interview – 12/3/2023):

    “Back in 1995, the West decided to remove Milosevic from power and try to subjugate Serbia to NATO, and the Kosovo Albanians were only an instrument. In today’s conflict in Ukraine, a similar thing is happening, Ukrainians are also an instrument. In that conflict, Russia will win because for her it is a decisive battle and a fight for a just cause.

    *How do you observe the first NATO war in Europe today, from this time distance, the reckless bombing of Serbia and the FRY in 1999?

    – There have always been (many) alternatives to the use of that force, but the Clinton administration, which at the time was strongly supported by the Blair government on European soil, categorically rejected it. In retrospect of those events, it is not unreasonable to claim that the attempt to force Serbia to capitulate with bombs was, in many ways, a sort of dress rehearsal for what the Biden administration hoped would be Russia’s capitulation to the US and NATO, all in light of the conflict. in Ukraine.”

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @Odyssey
    , @Wokechoke
  147. A123 says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    For example, will Saudi Arabia buy Russian weapons?

    If the Saudis want F35’s they are certain things they cannot buy. For example, S400 systems. Ask Turkey about this one.

    Beyond that some Russian gear might make sense. We have to wait for specifics.

    Will Saudi Arabia join BRICS

    Given South Africa’s deteriorating society is it now BRIC? Brazil does not cooperate with OPEC. BRIC is mostly a trade & economics organization and not solely focused on energy.

    It is possible. Call it 50/50.

    and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)?

    The SCO is primarily linked to CCP foreign investment or loans. Neither of these are of interest the Saudis. SCO also has political connotations that might scare off customers like Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea.

    One hates using a term like “impossible” so I will go for extremely unlikely.

    PEACE 😇

  148. @Carlton Meyer

    French did have a foreign legion so Russians can have also.

  149. Decoy says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    “but at least (MBS) is smart enough to see which way the global winds are blowing”

    A very simple statement about making life in general easier. Politicians are usually better than most people in determining which way the wind is blowing, but for some reason or another current day western world politicians can’t seem to grasp the obvious trend. Perhaps its the arrogance inherent in being part of a unipolar government that has had a 30 year reign. Like it or not the current direction of the global wind is not changing anytime soon.

  150. Ummmpph! says:

    Thank you, Ron Unz! Another excellent piece.

  151. Agent76 says:

    Mar 13, 2023 Seymour Hersh In Conversation. On US Sabotage of Nord Stream Pipelines

    On March 6, Seymour “Sy” Hersh spoke about the Nord Stream explosion on September 26, 2022. He reveals in his substack how it was the result of Washington Administration authorizing C4 explosives be planted on the pipelines in June under the cover of a NATO exercise in the Baltic Sea, and then setting them off using a signal from a sonar buoy dropped on the surface. Hersh discusses the discussion of the sabotage at the UN, the decline of his brand of journalism in mainstream media and more!

    • Thanks: JR Foley
    • Replies: @Sean
  152. PUTINFAN says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I’m hoping this story is true. Go Vlad Vlad and PMG-WAG.
    Hoping they can get 10,000,000 Sub Saharans into Eurpoe ASAP
    That’ll liven things up.

    • LOL: Levtraro
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  153. Sarita says:

    Look how crazy and sick Hoe Biden is: yesterday he was all sad in front of the tv cameras because banks are going broke, assuring people, you know serving the banker, helping them.
    Today, he’s sporting a nice smile as he announces the AUKUS deal of nuclear submarines.
    Anything that got to do with killing people all over the world the wasp and the Jews are happy.
    You’re an 80 years old man whose skin got cancer, why can’t you change the way of thinking before you go rot in hell? 🤔
    Waiting on the US to go broke and hit with a nice earthquake.

  154. Sarita says:

    It’s happening isnt it?

  155. China just put foot on US neck. How much pressure will be applied depends on US.

  156. @Wizard of Oz

    Honestly, Top Level-how would you know? Did Winnie Churchill tell you, himself, during one of your champagne breakfasts, so long ago?

    • LOL: Ann Nonny Mouse
  157. @Odyssey

    It was poorly worded. It should have said, if we did not totally decarbonise nearly all as fast as possible, or possibly all, of humanity, will die out in the decades to come, as the Earth’s climate destabilises more rapidly and to greater extremities than has been seen for at least fifty-five million years.
    That is more nearly correct, but what Greta and her ‘team’ do not grasp, of will not say, is that that ‘point of no return’ was actually passed some years ago, probably around 2000. Even if we totally decarbonised now, overnight, it is simply too late.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  158. Slava BRICS!

    Imagine the horror in Washington if China manages to broker a peace deal between the Russian Federation and Country 404….I sound like some kind of hippie.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  159. @Kevpkick

    Come on! Sirhan gave him a hand, and Mark Chapman too. The real ones-not the patsies sitting in prison.

  160. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    SHOUT OUT TO UNIT 8200!!!

    By the way, how many of you pseudo-semites are vaxxed?

  161. @G wiltek

    The US ruling class miscalculated that the ruling classes of China will be as apathetic to the Chinese masses as the US ruling class is to the US masses; that proved to be wrong. USA was lost when the manufacturing was outsourced; Russia has once again proved that industries are absolutely essential for any country that wants to mind its own business.

    US will rise again, probably in another 40 years, much shaken, much reduced in size and clout, but with better clarity about itself.

    • Replies: @Kim Jong Il
  162. @Vito Klein

    Difficult; usually the people of the lost country are also blamed, even if they were powerless to stop their government; remember how Germans were treated after the two WW, or Russians after the collapse of the USSR. The logic goes, “It is the duty of a people to keep an eye things done in their name.”

  163. “…not only had the Biden Administration illegally destroyed the crucial energy pipelines of its European vassals, but it had apparently made no effort to even prepare a plausible cover-story to camouflage its criminal attacks.”

    There is an extremely common viewpoint that imagines that the puerile attempt to manufacture an alternative narrative is meant to be credible. It is not. Credibility has nothing to do with it; in fact credibility would be a significant drawback in what it is meant to be.

    Which is, a loyalty test.

    Remember the Skripal hoax? How credible was that? Yet the faithful fell over themselves in their haste to swallow that fairy story (or, for instance, the idea that there is no such thing as biological gender and that men can get pregnant). The same thing will happen here. The faithful need a line to tie themselves to; whether it makes sense or not is not just immaterial, the more nonsensical the better, because it will compel the faithful to tie themselves even more tightly to it.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Sean
  164. Malla says:

    My point in my earlier comment was that it is American policy to keep Eurasia down, not British Imperial or Japanese Imperial policy. American policy towards Eurasia is similar or a bigger version of British policy towards mainland Europe, avoid the rise of an European power which could become a threat to the British Isles. The whole balance of ‘power in Europe’ mentality.
    The USA has taken that mentality to all Eurasia. it does not like any Eurasian poer to rise which could challenge American hegemony. To be honest there is not power in the Americas or Africa which could challenge American hegemony, such potential powers can only come from Eurasia. Even before WW2, the American policy was not only to destroy the Axis powers i.e. Germany, Italy and Japan but also to destroy European Empires like the British, French, Dutch, Belgian, Portuguese etc.. empires. Later it shifted it’s attention towards the USSR and later now Russia and China. Murica even stopped rising Japan of the 80s on its tracts via the Plaza accords.
    British Imperial policy and Japanese Imperial policy never had any such attitude towards Eurasia like what the USA has.

  165. TKK says:
    @Astuteobservor II


    Whether you want to admit it or not, he is the President and most of the US Media protects his image and actions.

    Of course there is a cabal of people who are calling some shots, but Biden is their unifying force.

    You are not smarter than anyone else – your snark is sophomoric and boring.

  166. @Anonymous

    IQ tests are useful and are somewhat accurate in predicting academic success and broadly coordinate with economic success, but do they measure creativity,the highest expression of human intelligence?
    The answer is a resounding “no.”

    Caucasians from Western Europe to India have created, invented or discovered virtually everything we have and know.This is factual,not racist and while it does seem that East Asians are beginning to make major advances, only time will tell.

    • Replies: @Olivier1973
    , @anon
  167. Petermx says:

    The USA was a scientific backwater until around 1940. Germany alone had far more Nobel Prizes than the US until 1945 and a few years later. So did Great Britain. The US was nothing until some European scientists (many being Jewish) started arriving in the US in the 1930’s. Then, the US got another influx of German talent after the war that put the US on the moon. The US was nothing in science. It was probably the biggest manufacturer in the world with huge factories. Of course, it also benefited from unlimited natural resources. Germany had almost none.

    • Replies: @David B
  168. Malla says:

    “18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”

    This is multiple times more true for Indians, Blacks, Jews, Chinese, etc…than native Europeans.

    • Replies: @anon
  169. @PUTINFAN

    This shows psycho-mental profile of Russians’ backers.

    • Replies: @PUTINFAN
  170. @Ennui

    What kind of dumb question is it?

    Venice gave more to world civilization than the whole of Russia, and it can’t, due to that historical fact, behave in such a way to occupy other peoples’ lands & break post-WW2 order. Hitler’s Germany had, perhaps, contributed more to world civilization than any other country in the past 400 years & it doesn’t matter at all. These were wars of aggression & Germany needed to be defeated.

    • Replies: @Ennui
  171. Twinkie says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ha, ha, ha. You certainly sound like someone who spent the Iraq War period working very closely with the Neocons…

    Yeah, keep repeating that falsehood, because you got nothing else.

    Ron “the Butcher” Unz

    For twenty years I’ve been saying that if we’d simply rounded up and summarily butchered all the Neocons together with their wives and children, we’d have a lot more peace and quiet in America. But nobody took my sensible advice, so here we are now…

    You clearly have some death camp commandant or Tovarish Zampolit fantasies.

  172. Twinkie says:

    Do you think MBS represents a less bad faction of the royals whether because of inclination or incompetence? His relatives that he locked up are scoundrels, and Khashoggi was a P.O.S. who flirted with Islamists back in the day.

    I’d rather have MBS in power than bin Talal.

    I don’t have any insight into the inner-rivalries of the House of Saud.

    I do know that those MoFos are survivors. Many commenters here probably don’t even realize that they play the double-triple game a lot. For example, they have been negotiating with the Iranians while simultaneously negotiating with the Israelis (and the U.S.) about normalizing relations. That’s right, not only have the Saudis been in a secret (obviously temporary) alliance with the Israelis against Iran, they actually have been negotiating about establishing an official relationship (one of the hangups apparently was being provided a “civilian nuclear program” by the U.S. in return).

    I also know that the House of Saud is deeply enmeshed with the U.S. Deep State. Several of the important members of that family literally own mansions only a few miles from the CIA HQ. They don’t even hide it.

  173. Sean says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Remember the Skripal poisoning hoax?

    And the Litvinenko one. Don’t forget the Yushchenko poisoning hoax. I could go on …

  174. Twinkie says:

    The right country would have been Yidrael.

    No thanks to “invade & invite” for Israel, please. We don’t need more Falafel eateries.

    I don’t begrudge the Israelis for pursuing their national interests (even at our expense) – that’s what all sane countries do. Washington, D.C. being the imperial capital, there is lots of lobbying happening on behalf of many different countries as well as, gasp, foreign intelligence operations and industrial and technological espionage going on (people cry about the Chinese stealing tech, as they should, but don’t seem to realize that many of our “allies,” including the French have been engaging in industrial espionage in the U.S. for decades).

    That being the case, it’s on patriotic American officials and lawmakers to make sure our, American, interests are safeguarded, rather than pandering to foreign money and influence. And, yes, Americans should be patriotic to America first (as I often say, I respect the Israeli Jews for their patriotism toward their own country, I just wish our Jews were equally as patriotic to our country).

    Israel is not the problem. The problem is the pro-Israel lobby in the U.S. and its legion of supporters, including our elected officials, who slavishly pander to it.

    • Replies: @wormssnakesbrain
  175. Odyssey says:

    Douglas Macgregor (in an interview with a Serbian newspaper – 12/3/2023):

    Q: Is it possible for Russia to bow to the West?

    – Russia will prevail in the Ukrainian conflict because it holds a strategically high position. The Russian cause in this war is just. Besides, in the West, if I may say so, there is no appetite for war with official Moscow.

    Q: How do you see Europe after this conflict in the east?

    – It is difficult to imagine the survival of NATO and the European Union after the Ukrainian conflict. Technically speaking, the attempt to destroy the gas pipeline in northern Europe was an act of war against both Russia and Germany. The result is that, as the conflict progresses, it becomes increasingly apparent how deeply European strategic interests diverge from each other and from the United States.

  176. All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
    Couldn’t put Biden together again.

  177. Sean says:

    Did Ukraine use an IED planted by a woman to assassinate Dugina? Did Ukraine blow up the enormous Crimea bridge with single lorry driven by a non Ukrainian dupe?

    This was simple destruction, not something as technically demanding like rescuing the submariners of the Kursk. The NordStrean sabotage was just blowing up a pipeline in moderately deep sea while not under time constraints and no need for precision. Use of mammoth extra amount of explosives would go a long way to ensuring success.

    Has Wagner using ex cons with maximum one months training bested the most elite units of the Ukrainian armed forces defending well fortified positions? Though many thousands of the prisoner fighters have died, yes! If you do something in a overdetermined way you can make it work.

  178. Wokechoke says:

    Serbia was always the dry run at Moscow.

  179. Wokechoke says:
    @Ron Unz

    Radek Sikorski is hardly a random Pole.

    As you pointed out he is married to Appelbaum. He’s also an Oxford grad. 50/50 he’s in the loop.

  180. @Petermx

    This what is called the perception deception. Sometimes I wonder if the much decried state of the press in Germany, under National Socialism, was freer than the press of today’s Germany.

    The litmus test for German awareness is the destruction of the Nord stream pipelines. One of Germany’s most post war worthy chancellors, Gerhard Schroeder, should act as the man of the hour and play a pivotal role at making Germany stand tall off her knees. The Biden administration’s act of treachery against a trusted Allie like Germany should finally kick the Germans out of their complacency. But it does look like things having to get much worse until Germans get the spine to escort the hegemon out the door and to reach out East for an economic and political alliance with the rising Asian powers.

    • Agree: Petermx
  181. @Ron Unz

    [Actually, I’m extremely skeptical of the widespread “inside job” theory regarding the 9/11 Attacks.]

    Well Ron, I wonder if you can give some credit to David Icke, with whom none of us has to always agree, but who has a record of foretelling many trends way before most of world’s population could even sense them. His book “The Trigger” explains the minutest details about this whole scam of 9/11. It is not just an inside job but an inside-outside job.

    I will settle the matter from a scientific point of view where any engineering of middling intelligence and above can tell that the pancake theory of three buildings free falling on their foundational signature defies the rules of physics as humans experienced them for millennia. Two thousand six hundred structural engineers signed a letter addressed to the U.S. authorities about the scientific facts but fell on deaf ears.

    Without explosives the demolition of the three buildings would have never happened.

    • Agree: skrik
  182. @Shitposter_in Chief

    Shitposter_in chief, Truth Vigilante once reprimanded you for living up to your nom de plume. It looks like his post went totally unleaded by you.

  183. @nsa

    Well, there Mr nsa or whoever you are. So you know that people spit into the food served to Americans, how is that, you have first-hand knowledge?

    I find that amusing beings that I am an American Ex-Pat living out of the United States, and have traveled the world, and had no problem.

  184. @KA

    .At worst it tells that Rumsfiled and his fellow workers in the cabjnet knew 911 would happen ,was waiting for it , and his team had planned how to use it to its advantage.


    At Worst, surely, was the truth, Rumsfeld et al perpetrated it.

  185. Levtraro says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Posting pics? What are you? Josep “racist-gardener” Borell’s granddaughter? Write something interesting ffs and don’t start by stupidly claiming to represent us Europeans, just present your argument.

  186. “Our own website is a small one, and only about a dozen of our articles have ever broken 100,000 views. ”

    Yes, Unz has a core readership of 10,000 to 30,000 readers, who generate about 2 million views during one month.

    “The Crisis in Ukraine Is Not About Ukraine. It’s About Germany,” “This article quickly attracted enormous global readership and has now reached nearly a million views,”

    This article was typical clickbait conspiracy nonsense. Germany already is a US ally or vassal state. Of course the current war is about Ukraine and Russia.

    Hershovitz hasn’t provided any evidence supporting his claims. And US and German newspapers didn’t claim “pro-Ukrainian activists” did it “on a small yacht”. They said a “pro-Ukrainian group” (could be the CIA) did it and a yacht may have been involved (for whatever purpose).

    And let’s not even discuss the bioweapon nonsense. With the exception of care homes and morbidly obese people, the virus just wasn’t a big deal.

    Unz really has to step up his game if he wants to be taken seriously.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz, Folkvangr
    • Disagree: Odyssey, Petermx
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Folkvangr
  187. @Twinkie

    In retrospect, we invaded the wrong country in 2003. There are days when I think we should have toppled the duplicitous House of Saud (and their cronies in the U.S. while at it).

    IIRC, there was speculation that cadet branches of the royals were involved in 9/11. The rumor is that the culprits were bumped off by the Saudi security services. Is there any truth to the scuttlebutt?

  188. skrik says:
    @Commentator Mike

    There is no separating US and EU, they’re in this together

    Agreed, but are the EU citizens in it willingly – or forced via [vicious, filthily lying] propaganda? I ‘monitor’ [= occasionally listen to news broadcasts] of several ‘Western’ PFBCs [= publicly financed broadcasters], and I hardly ever hear Russia mentioned without some fake pejorative, like ‘aggressive invasion’ say, nor Ukraine mentioned without some non-credible positive purpose, like ‘defending democracy’ or ‘freeing illegally captured land,’ say. Despite Bernays’ ridiculous assertion [= “conscious and intelligent manipulation” etc.], no proper democracy may ever ‘justly’ function if its electorate is propagandised by vile lies. As a not so BTW, recall that most ‘Western’ so-called democracies went viciously tyrannical over Covid-19, without visible coordination, perhaps the anti-Russian propaganda is similarly covertly coordinated thus snaring EU into idiotic pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia hysteria? Note a big implication: The EU so-called ‘leaders’ are selling-out their citizens via this govt. approved propaganda, self-convicting themselves as traitors. rgds

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  189. @Wizard of Oz

    Clearly you don’t know the back room deals that Ron alludes too. Combined they area unstoppable force.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  190. @col from OZ

    Which backroom deals are you referring to? At first I wondered whether you were making satirical reference to Ron’s wheeling and dealing but then I realised that you seemed to be believing that Ron had or might have real knowledge of backroom deals that mattered if your scared for your nation’s ultimate security and prosperity. Would you be so good as to spell out what backroom deals you are referring to and why you think they constitute an unstoppable force.

  191. @24th Alabama

    This is factual,not racist

    What is a fact is that western countries are racist and plundered for more than 5 centuries the rest of the world, mass killing people who resisted, deporting them or eradicating them.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @24th Alabama
  192. anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    I’d say your reply proves my point. There is literally no one on earth other than your own kind you won’t disparage.


    The United States has been much more inventive than continental Europe for a long time. The Nobel Prize is highly politicized, and being awarded by continental Europeans tends to irrationally favor continental Europeans. The Telephone, telegraph, airplane, railroads, iron ships, steamboat, submarine, etc. just to name a few were invented in the the United States before WWI, let alone WWII. Sure, the UK and Germany came up with a few military technologies like Tanks and Jet Engines on their own, but by the time the jet engine was put in service America was developing the atomic bomb which was obviously leaps and bounds ahead. As an example of American technological superiority, the Americans built the Panama Canal where the British and French failed. Notably, Suez, unlike the Panama Canal, is an extremely primitive canal which does not have any locks (invented in China centuries earlier). The fact you take seriously the idea that Europe was more technologically advanced is further proof of European hubris.

    • LOL: Petermx
    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Philip Owen
  193. @Twinkie

    Israel is not the problem. The problem is the pro-Israel lobby

    Not sure how one separates Yid from Yid.

    More falafel eateries A-OK if not from the thieves
    who steal land, homes, history, and culture.

    Almost forgot,

    Israel is the world’s problem.

  194. JFYI

    As western economies crumble, some broad brush statistics for Russia in 2022.

    Exports $591 bn.. Up 19.9% yoy.
    Imports $259 bn.. Down 12% yoy.

    Looks like sanctions were/are a great idea, for Russia that is.
    Repeat runs Monty Python in West govts.

    • Replies: @Jamali
  195. PUTINFAN says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    So you’re also against 10,000,000 Latinos in Amerika?
    Well shut my mouth.

  196. PUTINFAN says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Please, more photos of your ancestors, with descriptions, if you will.

  197. A lesson in manners, in how to behave in public.
    Are western yob politicians embarrassed that this needs to be said ?

    Possibly you know the answer to that question.

    Short public statement by Lavrov.

    Russia, unlike West, never condescends to other nations — Lavrov

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  198. @Unz Fanboy 1

    Of all the mysterious deaths in the political history of America, FDR passing away after a lifetime of smoking unfiltered cigarettes (even after at least one heart attack) ain’t one of them.

    • Replies: @anon
  199. Jamali says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Same for Iran. According to Cradle:

    Iran’s oil exports have reached its highest level since the Trump administration exited a 2015 nuclear deal and reimposed sanctions on Tehran in 2018, the country’s Oil Minister Javad Owji said on 12 March.
    According to Iran’s Tasnim news agency, Iran exported 83 million more oil barrels in the past 12-month period compared to the 12-month period before it.

    Iran has therefore exported 190 million more barrels than two years prior, while gas exports increased by 15 percent over the past 12 months.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  200. Folkvangr says:

    The BEST ever song about Russia, the best country in the world! Long live Russkiy Mir!

  201. anon[813] • Disclaimer says:
    @American Citizen

    Of all the mysterious deaths in the political history of America, FDR passing away after a lifetime of smoking unfiltered cigarettes (even after at least one heart attack) ain’t one of them.


    cui bono
    timing is everything

    Prime suspect = Bernard Baruch

  202. Folkvangr says:

    Russian savages tortured a Ukrainian marine, performed on him a brutal surgical operation without anesthesia and kept him in a concentration camp for months with other 800 captives. See for yourself what russkiy mir can do for you:

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    , @Derer
  203. Folkvangr says:

    Russian officers kill own wounded soldiers rather than treat them say POWs

  204. @Arthur MacBride

    I found this observation shocking and extreme. And again and again, there is a Talmudic Traveler behind the endeavor, as a leader, enabler, instigator, etc. In this case the ambassador is a homosexual Jew who openly mocks and lectures the country he is assigned to.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  205. Ennui says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Nice non-sequitur, Bardon. You called other civilizations garbage pits. I asked, if they are garbage, what makes Eastern Europe so great by comparison?

    I listed your achievements, such as various pirogis, ethnic massacres/resentments with obscure origins, and colorful peasant blouses. Feel free to add.

    And I think having a firm (albeit imperfect) Imperial Hapsburg hand on the tiller kept you all in check.

  206. @Old Brown Fool

    the jews will recreate usa. it will be a new country without transgenderism, christian terrorism, and whitey fascism.

  207. medo says:

    I come here regularly, I do not accept all that is published on this site , that said, here I find information and discussion and facts completely hidden in the US, I do not understand how this is allowed, in truth I think it is hazardous, and amazing that this site exists….

    I think you should be careful and watch your back.

    thank you

  208. @Folkvangr

    Pathetic, clumsy, stupid, and inept Ukrainian (pardon the repetition). Genetically part of an inferior gene pool.

    Folk wanker. Sky Jewish owned news.

    One unsubstantiated video. The evidence of Ukraine torture and murder of Russian POWs is extensive and credible, as in rising to the level of accepted norms of evidence. You Ukrainian inferior lump of amorphous dung. Useless idiot.

    What about the wide spread reports of Ukie Nazis killing their own citizens for propaganda videos, non-compliance (as in resisting to be human shields for Ukie soldiers).

    And then there is Bucha. Objectively, all the evidence points to Azoz or other Nazi regiment clumsily killing civilians to frame Russians.

    As a Ukie, somewhere in you miserable life, you are going to be forced to admit you come from inferior stock, sub par culture, mores, morality, and decency. The entire pseudo-nation has spent decades groveling and begging to the International ZIO usurpers, either directly as oligarchs or as executives of large corporations. Who OWNS most of the land in Ukraine?

    Countering US and Ukie psyops:

    U.S. Military Intelligence Official Refutes ‘Russian Atrocities’ Claims

    Russian soldiers left the town Bucha in Ukraine on March 30. Two days later the Ukrainian Gestapo like SBU and men of the fascist Azov battalion moved in to find and remove ‘traitors’. On April 2/3 video was published that showed freshly killed men laying on the streets of Bucha. Several of them had white arm bands signaling to Russian forces to see them as friendlies.

    The ‘west’ and Ukrainian officials immediately called those dead the result of ‘Russian atrocities’.

    I had called it a provocation:

    The Bucha ‘Russian’ atrocities propaganda onslaught may have worked well in the ‘west’ but it lacks evidence that Russia had anything to do with it.

    The former Indian ambassador M.K. Bhadrakumar calls it an outright fake: …

    And a fake it was.

    Thankfully there are still some sane U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency officials and William Arkin is talking with them:

    Last Wednesday, Bucha Mayor Anatolii Fedoruk said that 320 people had been killed in the town of 37,000.

    “It is ugly,” a senior official with the Defense Intelligence Agency tells Newsweek. “But we forget that two peer competitors fought over Bucha for 36 days, and that the town was occupied, that Russian convoys and positions inside the town were attacked by the Ukrainians and vice versa, that ground combat was intense, that the town itself was literally fought over.”

    “I am not for a second excusing Russia’s war crimes, nor forgetting that Russia invaded the country,” says the DIA official. “But the number of actual deaths is hardly genocide. If Russia had that objective or was intentionally killing civilians, we’d see a lot more than less than .01 percent in places like Bucha.”

    320 of 37,000 is not .01 percent. But we do not know how many of those dead were Russian or Ukrainian soldiers. Some of the dead were so called ‘civilian defenders’ which were supposedly local civilians to whom the government had handed guns to ‘fight the Russians’. During a war a ‘civilian’ with a government issued gun shooting at enemy soldiers is a combatant, not a civilian.

    The DIA official continues:

    “Have the Russians been indiscriminate? Absolutely. But it shouldn’t too surprising. It’s part and parcel of the Russian way of war, lining up their artillery guns and letting loose,” the DIA official says. “But here in particular, in Bucha and the other towns around it—Irpin and Hostomel—there was intense ground fighting that involved almost 20 battalion tactical groups.”

    I doubt that there is really intentional ‘indiscriminate’ Russian artillery fire. The Russians have held back quite a lot and paid in blood for it.

    One should also note that the often shown mass graves in Bucha were not from recent actions but had been dug on March 10 after heavy fighting when Russian soldiers tried to enter the town:

    Maxar Technologies, which collects and publishes satellite imagery of Ukraine, said the first signs of excavation for a mass grave at the Church of St. Andrew and Pyervozvannoho All Saints were seen on March 10.

    “More recent coverage on March 31st shows the grave site with an approximately 45-foot-long trench in the southwestern section of the area near the church,” Maxar said.

    The DIA official clearly says the civilian casualties in Ukraine, which are quite low, get overplayed and that attributing them solely to Russia is wrong:

    On Monday, the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights said it had recorded 1,793 deaths and 2,439 injuries to civilians in all of Ukraine since the war began on February 24. U.S. intelligence believes that the true number is some five times greater, as previously reported by Newsweek.

    “It’s bad,” the DIA official says. “And I don’t want to say it’s not too bad. But I can’t help but stress that beyond the clamor, we are not seeing the war clearly. Where there has been intense ground fighting and a standoff between Ukrainian and Russian forces, the destruction is almost total. But in terms of actual damage in Kyiv or other cities outside the battle zone, and with regard to the number of civilian casualties overall, the evidence contradicts the dominant narrative.”

    The official says that it is dangerous to attribute one or even several graves and scenes of civilian disaster to Russian barbarism rather than just being realistic about the depredations of war.

    The official also worries that attributing the destructiveness only to Russian conduct, rather than to war itself, creates future dangers.

    “If we blame all the damage on Putin, as if he commanded it and that it is due solely to Russian war crimes, we are going to walk away from Ukraine with some illusion in our heads that modern warfare can be fought more cleanly, that the Ukraine war is an anomaly solely created by Russia’s behavior. This war is just demonstrating how destructive any war on this scale would be.”

    One should avoid to wage war whenever possible but it also important to end wars as quickly as possible:

    “Maybe it’s heartless to urge that we look at Ukraine with precision, without human emotion,” says the DIA official.

    “But for those who think tens of thousands have died and Russia is intentionally killing civilians and pursuing genocide, I say that’s even more of an argument to find a diplomatic solution to cease fighting. But nothing is going to happen in the coming days or weeks to change the reality on the battlefield. That’s why stopping the fighting should be our highest priority.”

    Unfortunately ending the war is not a priority for the U.S. nor the EU. Their leaders are drunk on the idea that the Ukraine defeated Russia around Kiev. They seem to believe that the Ukraine can defeat Russia everywhere.

    But the retreat from Kiev was ordered because the deceptive move towards it had fulfilled its purpose of keeping a large number of Ukrainian soldiers in place around Kiev while the Russian army opened the land corridor to Crimea.

    The Ukraine has no chance to defeat the Russian army no matter how many old tanks or airplanes the U.S. and EU countries move to it.

    Sending more weapons only prolongs the war and inevitably creates more military and civilian casualties on both sides.

    There it is, Rodentia. You know you are lying, and tried to serve up a turd soup to the readers here.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  209. J says: • Website

    America will never allow the rise of a peer competitor. The sabotage of German-Russian pipe only shows the tremendous risks America is willing to take to stop the emergence of any alliance that may put its dominance in question. America’s mad fury had a cooling effect on China, and is now voluntarily moderating its own economic expansion. Since 1950, America have been following the MAD strategy, mutually assured destruction. America, once and again, has demonstrated that it is ready to go to suicidal extremes in order to effectively intimidate the world. The ayatollahs think they are being very clever…

  210. JFYI

    A voice of civilisation is raised.
    It isn’t one from the “our shared values” west.

    Lavrov calls on UN, OSCE to demand Kiev cease persecution of Orthodox believers

  211. Malla says:

    The largest number of innovations and inventions in human history has been done by Europeans. Fact.

    The Nobel Prize is highly politicized, and being awarded by continental Europeans tends to irrationally favor continental Europeans.

    No, they tend to irrationally favour Jews.

    There is literally no one on earth other than your own kind you won’t disparage.

    The fact you take seriously the idea that Europe was more technologically advanced is further proof of European hubris.

    LMFAO. Except that I am not European, I am not even White.

    • Replies: @anon
  212. Malla says:

    The fact is all human groups are racist (and always will be so) and have plundered and killed since the beginning of time. And as long as there are humans on Earth there will be plundering and killing. Nothing one can do about this unfortunate fact.
    Westerners were rarely more brutal than what existed before they took over, in most case, were more humane than what existed before they took over and in many cases were highly beneficial to non whites.

  213. Russian jets have downed an American MQ 9 “Reaper” drone over Black Sea.
    It went down into water and sank.
    Their Navy searched for, found and recovered it.

    USA says it was on a “routine” flight.

    Outcome not yet clear, just happened this writing.

    • Replies: @skrik
  214. @Olivier1973

    “The strong do what they have to do and the weak accept what they must.”

    The only morality in the relations between nations is that each ought to act only in its own best interest.If it fails to do so its actions will cause irreparable harm to itself and others.The prime example of this is the U.S. support of Israel which has been an unmitigated catastrophe for the Mideast,if not the world.

    The second is the U.S. proxy war in the Ukraine which forced Russia to act in its best interest to prevent the establishment of a hostile State on its border.No major power would ever allow this to happen.

  215. Folkvangr says:

    A year after invasion, Russian war crimes inflict death and ruin on Ukraine. Russian savages are destroying the jewel of Europe – Ukraine. They are committing genocide against its people, murdering infants, children, pregnant women, young men and elderly. Half of the Russian “army” consists of career criminals, murderers, convicted pedophiles, drug dealers, robbers, and marauders. Imagine the kind of human species on this website who support all this. Can you still call them HUMAN?

    • Replies: @Derer
    , @24th Alabama
  216. I was impressed to see the blowing up of the Nordstream pipelines and the dastardly assassination of General Soleimani mentioned almost in the same breath. Both actions remind me of the historical quote, “It was worse than a crime; it was a blunder.” Concerning the latter, see With such actions the U.S. sacrifices what tiny sliver of moral authority we might have had left in the world. The long term loss from such actions clearly outweigh any short term gain we might have believed we would get by them.

    • Agree: LarryD3
  217. The American capacity for self-inflicted harm is unlimited.We are running out
    of body parts to be shot.

  218. Derer says:

    Agree. Although I am disappointed for not quoting former Polish foreign minister Sikorski, an insider to clandestine operation: “Thank you USA”. Subsequently he deleted his tweet after being chastised for the leak.

  219. Derer says:

    I feel sorry for your nervous breakdown Simonchuk.

  220. An alliance between Germany and Russia has disturbed the world before. After WW1, Weimar Germany had few markets and little access to raw materials. Also severe restrictions on military size and training. The USSR badly needed technology and had a lot of raw materials. The Treaty of Rappallo established trade and Weimar (!) German access to the USSR for tank and aircraft development and training. This of course cumulated in their joint invasion of Poland which Britain and France chose to oppose. That Germano-Russian alliance cost the world dearly.

    Like Weimar Germany, Iran has no other way to turn.

    Saudi’s more interesting. On the one hand it is sending $400m to Ukraine to maintain the civilian government services. On the other hand it is making positive noises about BRICS and selling oil other than in dollars. The attraction be Russia. The BRICS with opportunities to offer Saudi are India and China. Cheap Russian oil is displacing Saudi oil from India’s vast refineries. Saudi expenses are acloser match for Saudi revenue than they used to be. They don’t want to be locked out further by currency manipulation. The same goes for relationships between Saudi and China.

    Now we come to China.

    Xi does not love Putin.

    China thinks it needs an outlet to the world that is not controlled by the US Navy. Hence the Belt and Road Initiative and some gestures to building its own navy. However, Iran is sanctioned and now Russia has got itself sanctioned. So southbound routes via Iran and the Pakistani port of Gwador have been blocked. Huge investments lost. Westbound routes have also been lost. There is only the Middle corridor left. This is controlled by Azerbaijan and Georgia. Putin’s adventures are causing instabilty in both these countries.

    Xi’s displeasure has shown in his support for Qazaqstan. Putin’s intervention in Qazaqstan was not welcome. Russian troops left as fast as they came. The Qazaqs are directly Romanizing their maps and soon their alphabet. They have erected a monument to the dead of the Holomodor. Proportionately more Qazaqs died than Ukrainians. They are muttering about radiation deaths from nuclear tests in the 1950s etc. Not just Qazaqs. Other Central Asians have found resolve to complain about Russia giving orders but turning up empty handed. The pretence that Russia is some equal of China has vanished. The BRI was once meant to connect with China’s very large investments in Ukrainian agriculture and port facilities made since 2011. Russia’s adventures in Crimea and Donbas long since destroyed that Chinese plan.

    China itself has refused to supply military gear to Russia. For example, in November, China (& Qazaqstan) refused to tender for 200k winter uniforms after 1.5m went missing from Russian army stocks. (only now are Russian soldiers getting warm white uniforms from North Korea – just in time for spring). Even more pointedly, on the 15 February China returned to using the Chinese names of the cities and towns in Outer Manchuria, currently occupied by Russia thanks to the only outstanding Unequal Treaty. (The US media frenzy about China perhaps offering assistance to Russia was misplaced or deliberately whipped up). Xi has owed Putin a return state visit for over a year. Russia seems to have expected him in early March but the foreign minister came, with a peace plan, instead. Xi has now decided to come but only with a well declared discussion with Zelensky (by Zoom?) as part of the tour.

    The potential alliance of these four does not look strong. It will be very transactional and all swings on China. Western diplomats can break the whole thing up by taking China’s worries about access to the sea for the Spice Route and the middle route for the Silk Road seriously.

    Pepe Escobar fans will not agree. Tough.

  221. skrik says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Thanks; saw this on the local PFBC news this evening; R says they did not touch the drone.

    {14 Mar, 2023 18:46
    HomeRussia & FSU
    Russia comments on US drone crash in Black Sea
    No interceptor touched the American spy UAV that was approaching Crimea, Moscow has said }

    Of course, hardly a day goes by without zusa looking for trouble – anywhere, everywhere. Mind you, Black Sea is *nowhere* near zusa? rgds

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @skrik
  222. Derer says:

    Hahaha, that photo is from Abu Ghraib, I know it by the coat-hanger…you desperate liar.

  223. @anon

    The telephone, telegraph, railroads, iron ships, steamboat are British as was the electric light bulb.

    The French can have the submarine. The Germans the automobile.

    The Wrights acheived the first flight and commercialised it thanks to the US Army who saw the demo fail but backed it anyway. The whole industrial world was a few months behind. Bleriot in France was the leader for quite a while.

    The Atomic bomb at Hiroshima was the British design, speeded into being by US industrial might to be sure. Nagasaki was a different, all American design.

    Yep. The US Army Corps of Engineers realized that digging the Panama canal (my great grandfather worked on it) was an earth moving project, not a digging project and built a railway to do it.

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
  224. @Odyssey

    Щ is the Russian Cyrillic for Tsch. Ч is ch in Russian Cyrillic. Is Serbian very different?

    Welsh war poems and lullabies written about 540-600 AD are still understandable today. So Wales claims to be the oldest language still in use in Europe except for Latin. Were Slavs even in Serbia then? Wasn’t Cyrillic invented for Bulgarian?

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  225. Odyssey says:

    Maybe the following can explain some idiotic comments related to Ukraine. It doesn’t mean that all those commentators are morons (probably 50/50) but they are tasked with creating confusion and that’s why they went full-time and working round the clock.


    The New York Post: America is left without the ability to print dollars indefinitely

    Anti-Russian sanctions have forced many countries to give up the dollar, which is why Washington is losing the ability to project its power on the international stage, the American newspaper The NYP reported.
    Its columnist Jay Newman additionally warned both official Washington and compatriots:

    “Avoidance of the dollar will deal a severe blow to the position of the United States in the international arena.” The era of unlimited dollar printing may be coming to an end, leaving us without the ability to buy foreign goods cheaply.”

    The NYP indicated that more than 100 countries have not supported the anti-Russian measures of the West, which is why economic coalitions are emerging that use other currencies to sell goods.

    He especially emphasized: “It turned out that ours, as well as the claims of Western analysts that there is no alternative to the dollar, were illusory. Trade relations between countries that use national currencies lead to a decrease in the demand for the dollar and, as a result, its value. That’s why there will be a gradual increase in prices”.

    With a further decline in the position of the dollar, the New York paper concluded, the US will lose weight in the international arena, and risk finding itself in a “debt hole”.

  226. @Folkvangr

    I share your sympathy for the suffering of the Ukrainian people,with the only difference being that my sentiments are sincere and yours are fake.

    All who had heartfelt concerns for the welfare of the Ukrainians urged them to remain neutral vis-a’-vis NATO and Russia, and stop the persecution (and killing) of ethnic Russians.Did the Ukrainians really want to provide the turf for an American-Russophobe war of revenge?

    Under American guidance Zelensky made terrible decisions.The Nation is wrecked and the loss of lives is horrific, more so because this tragedy could have been avoided.Had Zelensky been a real Ukrainian to start with, he would now be a traitor.He is instead just a warmongering,rat millionaire,ready to retire to Israel if he makes it out alive.

    • Agree: Decoy
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  227. Odyssey says:
    @Philip Owen

    Except for Welsh lullabies, you got everything else wrong. I’ll assume the comment is in good faith. Russian Щ is read as SH-C(iao) – as in Polish word Solidarno-ŠĆ. Russian Ч and Serbian Ч are the same, only the Russian pronunciation is a little softer (since it is a younger language that evolved from Serbian, like all other Slavic languages).

    The Celts once lived in Europe before they went to the British Isles. Until the 13th cAC, they had the same names as the Serbs, which few people know, until the ban by Edward Longshank (‘Braveheart’) in the 13th century. Some Serbian names, however, survived (Bruce, Damian, Dana, Kamen, etc).

    The Serbian language has continuity since the Paleolithic to today and developed in Lepenski Vir and Vinča (Serbs are European aborigines). I hope you know that LV/Vinca was the cradle of European civilization, culture and language. Although this fact is under a virtual ban and falsified by the mainstream Western science, I hope you are aware of it. It would be a shame if someone didn’t know that.

    Latin is an artificial language used by the church and is much younger under Serbian. Moreover, many Latin words as well as words of other European languages (e.g., English) were also taken from ancient Serbian. This language was taken to India by the Aryans along with the Vedas and thus Sanskrit and all the Indo-Iranian languages evolved from it.

    Forget the Bulgarians, they are 95% ethnic Serbs to whom the Asiatic Bulgars came in the 9th century and got assimilated there, adopted Christianity and the language from the native Serbs but imposed their own name.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  228. marylinm says:

    So Polin is out, and China is in. And the Polaks end up left behind like an ugly bride with a child, as always. I like that.

  229. @Odyssey

    A provisional thanks….

    • Thanks: Odyssey
  230. @mulga mumblebrain

    My reliable knowledge of what the human affected climate is up to ends with my concluding that investing in a marina in Murmansk makes better sense than buying Bitcoin (though I wouldn’t mind some tulip bulbs for the near term). But you are a doomsayer so please evaluate this and give an analytical response

    And while I have scientific Mulga on air can I please learn what you can reliably affirm as an advocate for Ivermectin? I have just read a story sabotage an influencer who killed himself with ivermectin. To follow up I Googled and this is just a sample piece that I was linked to

    What fo you say,?

  231. @Poupon Marx

    Unfortunately ending the war is not a priority for the U.S. nor the EU. Their leaders are drunk on the idea that the Ukraine defeated Russia around Kiev.

    Yea I guess all those videos of burning tanks and dead Russians around Kiev were just a drunk man’s imagination.

    What happened to the 40 mile column of armor and supply trucks that was headed towards Kiev?

    Unfortunately for you this isn’t Russian State TV and we can play video of what happened.

    Watch this Russian tank column outside Kiev turn into a total clusterfuck and then retreat:

    Beautiful attack by the Ukrainians.

    Me thinks you need to turn off the internet for a while. You can’t process what happened last year let alone the present.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  232. jsigur says:

    When Unz refers to a “Chinese TV station out of Beijing”, it seems odd to me that the commentator who speaks perfect English sounding English, appears to be gearing the material to a western audience.
    Anybody else find that odd? How can Unz claim it’s a Chinese TV station just because the host is of Chinese dissent/?
    Oh when does the propaganda begin and end. It’s very hard to come to a collective agreement on that apart from the known liars this Website appears to be fighting. We know that bad guys all agree to support each other’s lies but detecting the lies of the resistance is our true test

    Seymour Hersh comes off as a poor interview whether you agree with him or not. The public at large would quickly change the channel if he was on

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @dogbumbreath
  233. @24th Alabama

    All who had heartfelt concerns for the welfare of the Ukrainians urged them to remain neutral vis-a’-vis NATO and Russia

    Ukraine wasn’t in the process of joining NATO. Zelensky was a no-name actor who defeated the pro-NATO candidate. The pro-Putin supporters incorrectly assume he was put in after the corrupt pro-Russian president was removed. Zelensky was elected in 2019 which was well after the Maidan revolution.

    Under American guidance Zelensky made terrible decisions.The Nation is wrecked and the loss of lives is horrific, more so because this tragedy could have been avoided.Had Zelensky been a real Ukrainian to start with, he would now be a traitor.He is instead just a warmongering,rat millionaire,ready to retire to Israel if he makes it out alive.

    You are saying he should have told the military to stand down, let in the Russians and then watch them dismantle the nation? Is that how he wouldn’t be a traitor? Letting a foreign country takeover?

    Polls show that he has the backing of the Ukrainian people so why don’t you explain what exactly he did wrong.

    If anyone is ready to make a run to Israel it is Putin’s Jewish private war commander. The latest rumor is that the Russian brass has intentionally setup a trap for him in Bakhmut:

    Maybe the pro-Putin bloggers will finally mention him if he is killed.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  234. Ron Unz says:

    When Unz refers to a “Chinese TV station out of Beijing”, it seems odd to me that the commentator who speaks perfect English sounding English, appears to be gearing the material to a western audience.
    Anybody else find that odd? How can Unz claim it’s a Chinese TV station just because the host is of Chinese dissent/?

    You’re certainly a remarkably lazy individual. If you check, you’ll see that CGTN is a Chinese foreign-news channel based in Beijing:

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  235. Seraphim says:

    And that irrespective of the fact that the individual is lazy with English orthography. Chinese “dissent”?

  236. jsigur says:

    Talking about You Tube, it appears to me that they are not enforcing their outrageous hate speech restrictions like they used to. I have openly attacked Jews in numerous videos and not been reprimanded once. My channel is very small but non the less, I was getting videos taken down for much less than what I’m doing now a few years ago

    Also, while the Western public is Ostrich like as far as sticking their heads in the sand to avoid the truth or see through the lies, I don’t think western leaders, themselves, are oblivious but are too, in on the deception, if for no other reason as to continue in their political success

    Unz wrote, “Although I assume that all these facts have certainly become known to the ruling elites of most non-Western countries, I think they may increasingly be reaching a much broader audience as well, despite America’s stranglehold over the traditional electronic media.”

    In that statement, Unz is offering either intentional or careless misdirection, all the leaders clearly know the truth but only our enemies feel that they can speak it. Our leaders are not the docile American ppl They are in on the scam and their main job is to make sure the public doesn’t challenge the decisions of the “Behind the curtain malefactors”.

    Their strategy is international in scope, They don’t think America good, Russia bad, They have bigger results at stake which in the end are to bring us all under one clearly defined operation. They very likely will find it necessary to have some sort of “WWIII” and I’m sure if that is so will create the proper atmosphere world wide to have that happen

  237. Ron Unz says:
    @Step up your game

    Yes, Unz has a core readership of 10,000 to 30,000 readers, who generate about 2 million views during one month.

    I think that’s really quite a bit on the low side. According to SimilarWeb, the leading web traffic analyzer, we had 4.6 million pageviews in January, down from 5.6 million pageviews the previous couple of months. And we typically get around 60,000 visitors per day, so I’d guess our regular readership is somewhat higher than that.

    • Replies: @Step up the game
  238. @jsigur

    Anybody else find that odd? How can Unz claim it’s a Chinese TV station just because the host is of Chinese dissent/?

    Ron already replied in Comment #243. I will add, many foreign countries have an “English speaking” channel partly or wholly funded by the State. Some examples are RT News (Russia), Al Jazeera (Qatar) and Deusche Welle (Germany) because English is, like it or not, a default Global language.

  239. @jsigur

    Talking about You Tube, it appears to me that they are not enforcing their outrageous hate speech restrictions like they used to.

    YouTube censorship didn’t really begin until Covid. Prior you could pretty much say whatever. In 2020, any videos going against the authorized Covid “narrative” was scrubbed. Since that “big brother is watching you” act worked so well, YT began censoring other topics which went against narrative (i.e. Ukraine) and deleted peoples entire Channels it didn’t agree with.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Ron Unz
  240. @jsigur

    You should be safe from YouTube banning now that someone from The Lobby has watched one like that and concluded that the kind of dim impressionable people who might return to that website are probably best kept fed with such harmless bloviating.

  241. Wokechoke says:
    @Philip Owen

    flipping the Reaper drone may be a signal China is all in.

  242. anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @24th Alabama

    Incredibly ill-informed. Read “Science and Civilization in Ancient China” by the Anglo-Saxon Catholic Joseph Needham (since you don’t trust Jews, presumably) for a multi-volume exposition of all of the technologies China had before anyone else. For example, canal locks, gunpowder, the magnetic compass, paper, the Bessemer process (even this surprised me, frankly), natural gas drilling, etc. all invented in China. I’m not sure what was invented in India. My understanding is that India’s contributions have mostly been spiritual (I.e. rationalizing your own slavery).

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz, dogbumbreath
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @24th Alabama
  243. anon[279] • Disclaimer says:

    You do realize being European isn’t an STD? Some people are simply impervious to facts. I knew Indians had a tendency to view the West through a rose-colored lens from inheriting colonial baggage, but didn’t know it was this bad.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  244. Wokechoke says:

    Arabic numerals are understood to be Indian. Also they invented the Zero integer.

    • Replies: @wormssnakesbrain
  245. Von Rho says:

    Your defense of China, that bogeyman who is nothing more than a trinket maker, shows that you are part of the Nixon-era plan to create an industrial area on the Rimland to defeat the USSR. Certainly in the 1980s you were championing Japan as the great devil for the US. I also bet that at that time you were training kendo and eating sushi as “healthy” as a typical American Jew.

  246. Malla says:

    You do realize being European isn’t an STD?

    Did I ever claim that?

    Some people are simply impervious to facts.

    A good chunk of the World who have not yet digested the fact (because of ego, thuggish mentality, arrogance) that Europe created the modern magical technological World we live in.

    I knew Indians had a tendency to view the West through a rose-colored lens from inheriting colonial baggage,

    You thought wrong, Indians are extremely anti-West, one of the most anti-West population on Earth. We are taught to hate the West from childhood. Indians believe in the superiority of their own race and civilization and believe all other civilizations stole technology from them, that all other civilizations were created by degenerate versions of Indians. That includes Chinese-East Asian civilization, middle Eastern civilizations, Western/ European civilization, native American civilizations. There is a huge Hindutva Afrocentrist type “we wuz space pilot” literature out there, and most Indians believe it.

    That is whay I say that Westerners and Japanese art extremely humble when compared to their achievements and the societies they have built. But other populations are drowning in pride and arrogance, in spite of their failures.
    It is like the humble scientist (West, Japan) vs the arrogant ghetto street thug (rest of humanity).

  247. @nsa

    without geography you’re nowhere. so that being said – it’s always so funny to think about THAT island, and all THOSE ideologies that came from it. to think…a bunch of mooks that slimed their way out of the bog 400 years ago by backstabbing their closest neighbors, hellbent on world domination.

    “england is the shittiest island on the planet.” – rushed boob job

  248. Seraphim says:
    @Philip Owen

    ‘Westies’ never realized that the Russo-Chinese ‘alliance’ began in 1996 with the “Shanghai Five” which grew into the “Shanghai Cooperation Organisation”. Wake up.

  249. chowfun says:

    With China’s successful brokering of the re-establishment of diplomatic ties between Saudi Arabia and Iran, China has now established itself in a global leadership position where they will now be looked upon with great favor by other smaller less powerful nations to mediate in economic, territorial, military disputes and/or alliances forging stronger diplomatic bonds with all parties concerned thereby usurping the role once occupied by the USA as the dominant geopolitical negotiator. What is more important than just the “how” of this Saudi-Iran diplomatic breakthrough is the “why.” Why at this time are these diplomatic ties being formed and why is China being the one others are turning to in the facilitation of such ties? Could it be because it is the first of many steps that will be taken by countries who now feel that they must enter into alliances of one form or another for their mutual protection against a dangerous rogue superpower that uses its financial might to impose withering economic sanctions against those who will not ascribe to its arbitrarily enforced “rules based order,” that uses its influence via INGO’s within foreign countries to foment discord and promote “color revolutions,” that uses its military power (directly or indirectly) as a cudgel to bludgeon other nations who may choose to forge their own diplomatic ties that might not meet with western approval back into compliance, and who just recently committed an act of terrorism against an ally with the explosive demolition of a key piece of energy infrastructure. Several nations are now coming to the conclusion that the United States is indeed the greater danger to their continued survival and new strategic partnerships are now being formed to combat the threat.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  250. @Malla

    the brits floated from their island all the way into the black sea just to stick themselves into a conflict between ottoman muslims invading russian territory. that was 1856 in crimea, an island within the eurasian world island. perhaps they were trying to control the eurasian land mass a few decades before mackinder’s 1904 notions.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  251. Malla says:

    I think this should put the controversy to rest.

  252. @Ron Unz

    similarweb shows 1.7M to 2M visits per months in the last three months:

    The 60,000 visitors per day include many return visitors. 2M views per month divided by 150 articles per month is about 15,000 readers per article on average. You could simply display the views per article to clarify the situation.

  253. @John Johnson

    Thank you for your prompt reply,even faster than a bank collapse in the US,but its only a figure of speech here whereas in the Ukraine the bank building actually collapses.

    To your point,Zelensky was well known because of his TV show but he did campaign as a “Peace with Russia”candidate.Maybe he was sincere,only he knows but at some point he clearly came under the control of those who wanted to provoke Russia into invading.Shelling of the ethnic Russians in the Donbas resumed on his watch,as did Russian warnings.

    NATO continued to arm and train the Ukrainian Army with only one possible enemy in mind.Ukraine became a de facto member of NATO,or a sacrificial lamb if you prefer.The collective Russian memory of invasions by Sweden,France and Germany goes back 500 years.For the Russians it was a matter of “never again,” a truly existential threat.

    A great power such as Russia will never allow a minor player to pose a threat on its border.Nor would the US or China put up with such nonsense.Peace can only be maintained when great powers respect the sphere of influence of one another.That is Realpolitik,the very essence of the balance of power doctrine.

    The US made a cruel calculation to “Fight to the last Ukrainian,”really a war crime in every sense of the term.Americans will bear the shame for this tragedy for generations.Every decent person mourns the loss of each Ukrainian and Russian life.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  254. skrik says:

    Kremlin Blames US For Crashed Drone: ‘Flying With Transponders Off Towards Russian Border’
    Tuesday, Mar 14, 2023 – 07:10 PM

    Update(1510ET): After nearly two hours since the story first broke in international press, the Kremlin has issued its version of events concerning the US drone crash in the Black Sea Tuesday. The Russian Defense Ministry said nothing about the Pentagon’s allegations that a Russian Su-27 aircraft dumped fuel on the MQ-9 drone, but instead blamed the pair of Russian jets’ erratic maneuvering for the collision.

    “US drone MQ-9 fell into the Black Sea on Tuesday morning due to its own sharp maneuvering, Russian fighters did not come into contact with it and did not use weapons, the Russian Defense Ministry said,” according to Russian media. The statement is as follows [emphasis ours]:

    “As a result of sharp maneuvering around 09:30 Moscow time [06:30 GMT], unmanned aerial vehicle MQ-9 went into an uncontrolled flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface. The Russian fighters did not use airborne weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle and returned safely to their home airfield” the ministry said.

    • Replies: @skrik
  255. hotcock says:

    Good one Ron. I salute you. You are one of the best websites in the West on a good day. But you need to expose the alien/ET agenda of the grey deal with the USA. You could do this Ron as you are such a brave journalist and scientist. You easily have the skill and ability. I urge you to draw in this whole fucking nightmare jigsaw for our readers linking in the alien-ET agenda to just about everything else via the neocons, Illuminati et cetera. Keep going Captain Courageous.

  256. Zumbuddi says:
    @Philip Owen

    Useful perspective.
    Got sources?

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  257. What is happening in Ukraine is actually Antichrists plan B.
    It does not working out as Antichrist intended. It seems to me that Antichrist is going back to plan A.
    Plan a is to use those Australian submarines to bring nuclear missiles to Odesa and Ukrainian Dogs will shoot them at Moskva.
    So Russia must take Port of Odesa or at least Thoroughly blockade it.
    Probably Russians know about this plan.

  258. @chowfun

    What is more important than just the “how” of this Saudi-Iran diplomatic breakthrough is the “why.” Why at this time are these diplomatic ties being formed and why is China being the one others are turning to in the facilitation of such ties?



    Why the Global South are falling out of love with the West and the liberal order

    Shifting balances of power, the West’s intransigence over Ukraine and the poor outcomes of its foreign interventions have left the Rest wary

    The South will not take sides with the East or West without making sure their interests are looked after. The romance with the West is well and truly over

    Andrew Sheng

    Published: 3:30am, 11 Mar, 2023

    A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum is a 1962 Stephen Sondheim Broadway musical based on a Roman farce by Plautus (254–184 BC), that became a 1966 musical film. It’s about Roman slave Pseudolus who tried to win his freedom by persuading his owner Hero to win the heart of Philia next door, who is promised to soldier Miles Gloriosus.

    The show became a success when Sondheim changed the opening song, Love is in the Air, to Comedy Tonight, showing how romance is better sold as comedy.

    The musical enjoyed various reruns, including a Cantonese version in Hong Kong in 2009.

    I was reminded of this raunchy farce when watching a video of the latest Group of 20 foreign ministers’ meeting in New Delhi. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi set the tone by reiterating the G20 theme: “One Earth, One Family, One Future”. He said: “No group can claim global leadership without listening to those most affected by its decisions.”

    Nato’s G20 members were clearly not listening, because there was no agreement on a joint communique that demanded a condemnation of the Russian invasion. Western G20 members were so indignant and took such a righteous stance that they broke the first rule of being a gracious guest.
    Gracious guests do not go to parties openly condemning other guests. The Rest are coming to realise that after the West disposes of its identified existential threats, they will be probably be next.

    Today, every major Western event starts with an obligatory address by Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky. Each Nato leader then repeats an reaffirmation of the values- and rules-based order, exhorting listeners (the Rest, but mostly the South) to join their cause or face “consequences”.

    What has happened on the way to the new Roman forum is that the Rest are answering back. The former slaves, colonies or near-colonies will no longer be silent when former masters insist on the old order where they rule and you obey.

    This is not about the West’s hypocrisy when it preaches about democracy vs autocracy, or about values and the rules-based order. Hypocrisy is not unique to the West. University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer put his finger on the key reasons in his 2019 article “Bound to Fail: The Rise and Fall of the Liberal International Order”.

    First, a liberal multilateral order implies a shifting of sovereignty to multilateral institutions essentially controlled by the rich West. This legitimacy is being contested with the shift of economic power to the Rest, because the majority rightly want a voice on how these rules are drafted and enforced.

    Second, the United States used its unipolar and unchallenged power to dominate up to the collapse of the Soviet Union, but it no longer has the resources to fully control the post-Cold War order. Rome was never dangerous when it was secure. It was most dangerous when it felt its position challenged.
    Third, the post-Cold War liberal order is doomed to collapse because its foundational policies are flawed – not only will nationalism and balance-of-power politics block its implementation, but the resources spent on foreign wars also corrode domestic politics.

    In short, the arguments for the idealistic liberal-democratic rules and values-based order falter on the morality, logic and evidence of who rules, whose values and the evidential outcomes.

    First, the Rest would support the West if it continued to deliver global public goods as a moral leader. But global public goods are declining as Western resources are constrained, and war and sanctions cannot be the solution to global ills. Every central bank across the Rest fears the fate of the Afghan central bank whose foreign exchange reserves were confiscated or frozen after the country was invaded, then abandoned by the US.

    Second, if the Western leadership shifts towards transactional aid or sanctions, then the Rest must hedge their bets using the historically tested balance-of-power approach whereby no single power can be dominant.

    The South will not take sides with either the East or the West without making sure that their interests are looked after. They will side with one to balance the other.

    Third, the evidence so far in countries where the West, or through the transatlantic security alliance of Nato, has intervened on bringing democracy or human rights, such as Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, have experienced failing or failed governance.

    My feeling after listening to the recent Munich Security Conference is that this was a talk shop about Europe’s massive insecurity. Europe has sleepwalked into its old history of perpetual wars, lulled by an exceptional peace in the last 70 years. The European leaders who insist their exit strategy is a full Ukraine victory do not make rational sense.

    Since Russia will not accept defeat, attempts to achieve a full Ukraine victory will mean a Europe at permanent warfare until it is stopped by nuclear war, its own complete exhaustion, or the destruction of Ukraine. Who wants to follow leaders who think war can be fought without sacrificing their sons and daughters?

    The West is in a metaverse of its imaginative creation, whereas the Rest are trying to figure out how to realistically survive the existing liberal order.

    The romance with the West is over, comedy is turning into farce. That is what is happening on the way to the new Roman forum.

    Andrew Sheng writes on global issues from an Asian perspective

  259. @24th Alabama

    The only reason Russia can maintain its pretensions to be a great power is that it has nuclear weapons. And you mistake as supposed provacation of Russia based on some fanciful ideas derived from history you think inspires Russians when, in fact, it is clear that the war is the product of Putin and a very few members of his inner circle. So, yes if you say ots OK for a delusional autocrat to represent “Russia” so that it is his views that count I can’t deny that that is your point of view. But I can’t accept that you won’t allow Ukrainians agency. It is they that are resisting the Russians in way which actually surprised the Americans who mostly believed in a quick victory for Russia.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  260. @Wokechoke

    Not positive, but Arabs use Indian numerals, West, others use Arab numerals.

    • Thanks: Sarita
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  261. skrik says:

    Pushing on, two articles on MQ9 Reaper crash and NS1&2 destruction:

    1. Russia Warns the United States About Continued Support for Ukraine By Downing MQ9 Reaper
    14 March 2023 by Larry Johnson
    Don’t be confused. The alleged “collision” between a Russian SU-27 jet fighter and a U.S. Air Force MQ9 Reaper drone was not an accident. Russia was sending an unmistakable message to Washington and its NATO allies – Russian patience with NATO arming and prolonging the war in Ukraine is waning and Russia is prepared to act against targets that enable attacks on Russian forces in Ukraine.

    2. SCOTT RITTER: The Nord Stream-Andromeda Cover Up
    March 14, 2023
    U.S. intelligence was too quick to leak information about the German investigation to The New York Times. It raises the distinct impression that the real culprit is nervous about the investigative work of Seymour Hersh.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  262. @John Johnson

    Yea I guess all those videos of burning tanks and dead Russians around Kiev were just a drunk man’s imagination.

    This and other Western media posts have as much credibility as the CIA-New York Time, or the FBI-Washington Post. If YOU believe these sources and consider them credible, tthen you are even stupider than I thought. But you probably believe that this will pass for authenticity here. Stupid. Many articles and commenters have outed these Western ZIO Pravdas.

    What happened to the 40 mile column of armor and supply trucks that was headed towards Kiev?

    Stupid II+, Johnson. This has been exposed and explained many, many times: here and on various sites or real experts-the kind with TIME AND GRADE.

    Johnstein, you might be a Canadian Ukraine in Western Canada. Ukrainians are expert and outstanding at picking potatoes. Generally uglier than most Caucasians, they also seem to have no resistance to exploitation by ZIO-Israel, and happily grovel and beg from crumbs of the oligarchs, who regard them as gerbils and reptiles. No popular movement against getting bent over and slammed with no grease. They seem infinitely programmable to carry out self harm and barbarities.
    I can think of no other Indo-European that makes a better door mat and septic tank.

    Maybe that explains your repetitive lies and glorification of a trash people and culture, backward, aimless, and obedient to the Talmudic Termites. You really are beyond disgust and repugnance, Johnstein.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  263. @Wizard of Oz

    You are fanatical idiot. I do not mind that you are an idiot. But please stop being fanatical.

    • Agree: Seraphim
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  264. @Philip Owen

    Seems the US has just announced 4 new bases in the Philippines. This seems unnecessary provocation of China at a time it already feels cornered. Time to slacken off and be friendly, at least on a few details, not tighten up. Tell China that the US will be positive about taking the BRI through Georgia, a very easy route to control anyway.

    • Replies: @ki
  265. @Zumbuddi

    30 years of observation I’m afraid. On matters of trade with Russia I’m an authority in a small way. Geopolitics or military, not so much.

  266. @Ron Unz

    I can’t stop laughing. If a person is really stupid, they should be silent. One of my favorite neologisms is a “Hollowgram”, a take off ersatz crafted from the “Hologram” of Star Dreck”.

    I admire the deft use of understatement and irony. For whatever fortune, I am not good at it.

  267. @rushed boob job

    The issue was defending the route to India. Peter the Great had declared the conquest of India the goal of Russian foreign policy. In 1801, Alexander 1 actually launched an invasion. Logistics were so bad that it never left Russia.

    By 1854, Russia was attempting to capture Constantinople by invading the Balkans. With Constantinople, Russia could threaten routes to India via the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea. Britian wished to stop this. Sebastapol was the Russian naval base, important for supply and Crimea as a whole a place to threaten the Russian army from the rear. Russian supply lines found it very difficult to reach Crimea. A whole army was lost on a winter march.

    The scenario was repeated in 1877/8 with just the Royal Navy showing up in the Bosphorus after the Russians were in sight of the city. The mere appearance of the ships deterred the attack and the Russians were mopped up by the Turks having vastly overextended their supply lines.

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  268. Anon[273] • Disclaimer says:

    Just because Osama, the self -proclaimed freedom fighter, opposed the Saudi regime and the US who allied with it, does not mean that all his siblings agreed with him. Ergo, just because his siblings had good relations with the Saudi regime, does not mean the Saudi regime was behind 9-11. Fact is, Osama and the Saudi regime were enemies, and the 9-11 families can’t accept that it was not a nation state that gave the Americans a taste of their own medicine,[we spent the whole 20th century dropping bombs on men ,women and children with impunity],but a rag tagged freedom fighting gang who opposed US military bases in their home land and out alliance with the Saudis which helped us win the cold war[ below market oil so Americans could drive huge gas guzzlers while the rest of the world had tiny cars].[lol]. And Osama opposed all ME dictators which benefited US or the soviets[Syria] but not the people .And fact is the US invaded Iraq fearing that Osama might topple the Saudi regime and Iraq being more secular ,not fundamentalist we could have our whore houses and bars for our troops] was seen as another ME oil rich country we could have military bases and another supply of oil for the 21st century to control the ME and the world with, if necessary.

  269. @anon

    So your argument is that the ratio of Caucasian to East Asian
    creativity is about 100,000 to 6?
    You got me! Checkmate.

  270. ki says:
    @Philip Owen

    Interesting take. China can just wait and see how many resources US can waste to control those non profitable failed state. You know that any crisis/shit the US make, its race change a little more. And whites are not known good at sloving racial problems.

  271. @skrik

    Thanks skrik .
    I also followed that story.

    US drone transponder turned off heading in straight line for Russian territory.

    Amazingly rash provocation near a war zone.
    Wherein USA is funding arming the anti Russia side …

    Looks like USA warming up Georgia and Moldova as more cannon fodder.
    If they are foolish enough to fall for it.
    Personally, despite their agents in those places, I doubt it.

    Airborne 101 still hiding in Romania.
    Try there and Bulgaria for more cannon fodder.

    The Ukraine sacrifice to Moloch nearly used up now.

    • Replies: @skrik
  272. Wokechoke says:

    I understood that the Indians invented the notation.

  273. @Philip Owen

    Interesting analysis. Makes one think of pre-WW1. Britain secures concession to explore for oil in Iran in 1901. In 1908 Iran is first country to discover oil in the Persian Gulf. In 1909, British control Iranian oil with a 51% share in Anglo Persian Oil Company (APOC). Germany begins building Berlin-Baghdad (Iraq) railway in 1903 to extend reach to the Persian Gulf. Germany secures rights from Ottoman Empire to explore for minerals and oil along a 40 km strip on either side of the railway route (Iraq is under Ottoman rule). Regional Empires (Russian and Ottoman) continue to have territorial disputes after Wars in 19th Century. Ottoman Empire along with Germany defeated in WW1 and Berlin-Baghdad railway not completed. British and other Europeans secure exploration rights to Iraq after WW1 with the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. 2nd Russian Revolution begins in 1917 (Tsar murdered and Russian Empire collapses).

    Some new players this Century but similar chess match…..interesting times.

    • Thanks: Philip Owen
  274. Folkvangr says:

    Death to Russian fascist aggressors! Hang Putin high! The Russian empire is a rogue state that stole all its territories from its neighbors. The Russians can only claim Novgorod, Moscow and St. Petersburg as their own. Down with the Russian illegitimate state!

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  275. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sir Launcelot Canning

    Biden,Blinken @Bloben

    This was also the intro to a Def Leppard song in the Eighties.

    Rock of Ages?

  276. anon[750] • Disclaimer says:

    YouTube censorship didn’t really begin until Covid.

    That’s not true at all. A couple of the channels that I watched were censored way before that. They just talked about current world events and had an opinion that apparently Youtube didn’t like. IIRC, one of the videos was about HK riots/protests. At that time, Facebook, Twitter and Youtube censored a lot of HK protest materials that contradicted the US official narrative.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
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  277. Lin says:

    An interesting bit of history: The last pre-islam Persian prince seeked refuge in Tang China:

    “Pirooz requested only a simple burial and the Chinese emperor approved. The entire exiled court was in attendance along with the Chinese emperor. The Chinese emperor held Peroz’s shaking hands. Pirooz looked west and said: “I have done what I could for my homeland (Persia) and I have no regrets.” Then, he looked east and said: “I am grateful to China, my new homeland.” Then he looked at his immediate family and all the Persians in attendance and said: “Contribute your talents and devote it to the emperor. We are no longer Persians. We are now Chinese.” Then, he died peacefully. A beautiful horse was made to gallop around his coffin 33 times before burial, because this was the number of military victories he had during his lifetime. Pirooz was a great Chinese general and great Persian prince devoted and loyal to his people.”

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  278. Ron Unz says:

    YouTube censorship didn’t really begin until Covid. Prior you could pretty much say whatever.

    That’s really not correct. Censorship began right around the time of Trump’s election in 2016, and was initially restricted to videos and channels promoting the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, a development that I found extremely suspicious at the time.

    You might want to read my lengthy article on the subject:

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
  279. @anon

    IIRC, one of the videos was about HK riots/protests.

    Youtube and the like have always censored videos with extreme violence especially when a viewer flags a video. Showing a person attacked and drawing blood or a person being set on fire would qualify….both happened during HK protests. Not sure if those videos would be allowed if there was a “viewer discretion” warning beforehand. For me, during and after Covid, even the comments section was censored. I have posted contrarian opinions and facts in videos and the comment never registers. The algorithm is so good even changing upper case/lower case, inserting symbols doesn’t evade.

    Disclaimer: My experience limited to videos I watch on YT.

    • Replies: @anon
  280. Wokechoke says:
    @Philip Owen

    Roughly the same time that the Crimean War occurred the Russians were pushing into Uzbekistan. In “Flashman at the Charge” George McDonald Fraser has Flashman get himself captured at the Battle of Balaklava. Flashman is interned in the Donbas and in his escape attempt recaptured. He is then dragged by a certain Count Ignatieff into this Russian attack into Uzbekistan where the army hopes to get to The Indus Valley to capture Sindh.

    Long story short Flashman finds a way to blow up the supply ships for the Russians which are crossing the Aral Sea.

    The Russian invasion at this time was apparently an historical event. The local Uzbeks and Tajiks fought a desperate rear guard action and found some Congreve rockets at a wharf aimed them at the Powder Ships and lit them up.

    The situation in Asia was fluid all through the Victorian Era.

    One interesting note though. The Russian Navy docked in New York and San Franscisco during the American civil war to deter the British and French lending Lincoln their support. It was a big modern fleet.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  281. Odyssey says:

    From the referred text:

    A rectangular piece of tapestry coming from the Xingjian Ughur Autonomous Region of China clearly showing Sasanian Persian influences in design and artwork. The physiognomy of the person drawn in the tapestry is Caucasoid as opposed to Asiatic, indicative of the strong Indo-European presence in the region since proto Indo-Europeans (i.e. the Tocharians) first entered the region thousands of years ago (Picture source: Houston Museum of Natural Science). Several Western researchers however suggest that the person depicted above is a Greek.

    Official (Western) mainstream science still hides who the Aryans were despite their genetics, linguistics, mythology, anthropology and toponyms are known. Aryans did not come only to India, but also to other parts of Central and Southeast Asia. They came to Tibet, China and Xinjiang. They came to Xinjiang 2600 years before the Chinese and 2800 before the Uighurs. To those interested in studying, I can forward a thousand of Serbian toponyms from Tibet, China and Xinjiang.

    • Replies: @Lin
    , @Von Rho
  282. @Zarathustra

    You are entitled to be carelessly wrong but since you have stuck your neck out so rashly I challenge you to look at my comment record and demonstrate that I am fanatical about ANYTHING. Apologies will be accepted though I fear that your own blindness (fanaticism) may get in the way of it.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  283. Lin says:

    Its recognised that the original aborigines of Xinjiang were a Persian people/speakers and they’re still there in 10s of 1000s.
    BTW, if one reads the Ballad of Mulan…Mulan was a camel jockey and she titled the chinese emperor the ‘Khan
    Mulan’s full name is Fah Mulan…I suspect ‘Fah’ is a phonetic translation of ‘Farsi’ –the perian language or something to do with Persia
    As I said before in other posts, like it or not race mixing always happen; Aryans could mean either of the followings:
    **Its the ancient word for Iranians(BTW, ‘Persia‘ is used more by the Greeks/Euros; Iran has been the indigeous word for the Iranians). Iran literally means Land of the Aryans.
    **A very large lingual group.
    **The Hitlerite narrative for a fair skin ‘ubermensch’– Although it has been largely ‘discredited’, it did get a critical mass of followers. Some hindu nationalists call their brown skin Tamil/Dravidian/Australoid/Indus-Valley inhabitants : ‘Aryan Track 2’

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  284. Anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    When the empire collapses, we the average working people should take back our power and restructure society at which point we can begin to cooperate with the multipolar world in good faith

    Fun facts:

    The United States excluded the Soviet Union from NATO (back in 1949), and excluded China from the International Space Station and Trans Pacific Partnership.

    But, when it came to be their turn, China specifically invited the United States into the Belt and Road Initiative/New Silk Road. A normal leadership of a normal country would jump at the chance – think of all the jobs Americans would have plugging into such a massive project, spanning DECADES. Plus, the ability to influence the project from the inside, listened to by all other members.

    But of course, nothing is more radioactive to the ruling elites here than to have to work as equals to all of those hordes of non-Whites across the world. We snubbed China’s invite.

    Now, we seethe, and badmouth the BRI with our media and our so-called think-tanks. But it just rolls along, at a steady relentless pace, uplifting all of Eurasia, Africa and South America – without any participation from North America or Europe.

    That’s the Western ruling elite for you.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  285. Odyssey says:

    What you wrote agrees with my comment – the aborigines of Xinjiang were Aryans. It is true that Iran is the ‘land of Aryans’ who came there in the second wave (the first one went to India). The question is where did the Aryans come from?

    For a long time, a misleading term was used about the so-called ‘Indo-Iranian’ languages. Official science claims that these languages came from the border of Poland and Belarus by splitting off from the so-called ‘Balto-Slavic’ language(s). It would have been much clearer if the term Polish/Belarusian language(s) had been used instead of ‘In-Ir’. In any case, even the mainstream asserts indirectly (which can be concluded by common sense) that ‘Indo-Iranian’ and ‘Balto-Slavic’ (all are backdated terms that did not exist at the time of the separation) languages evolved from one common language.

    The mainstream stops there and does not say that this common language did not originate in uninhabited Poland during the Ice Age but came there through the migration of the population from Vinca, the cradle of European civilization, culture and language. Sanskrit (India) and Avestan (Iran) evolved from that language, so as the first Vedas, Mahabharata and the oldest mythology.

    • Replies: @anon
  286. Von Rho says:

    The warriors depicted at the Takla Makan oasis are blonde. Comte noted that men in their animistic phase are incapable of abstract thought. So we Aryans in our polytheistic phase were the ones who brought culture to animist China.

  287. skrik says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    .. and my thanks to you

    US drone transponder turned off heading in straight line for Russian territory.
    Amazingly rash provocation near a war zone.
    Wherein USA is funding arming the anti Russia side …
    Looks like USA warming up Georgia and Moldova as more cannon fodder

    Not just ‘transponder off,’ not just ‘heading for Russian territory’ but:

    [Russian] Aerospace Forces had recorded the flight of an American UAV over the Black Sea towards the Russian border and dispatched two interceptors to investigate. The ministry noted that the aircraft was flying with transponders turned off and in violation of the temporary air borders established around the ongoing military operation area in Ukraine
    Since as good as absolutely nothing in this context happens without conscious planning and command, I’d posit that zusa deliberately set out to provoke, and as Larry asserted, this time they provoked once too often, so Russia ‘planned and executed’ its response. As for Georgia and Moldova, we see zusa causing trouble everywhere they possibly can, ‘prime’ case = Iran, thereafter everywhere to aid the invading alien squatters illegally occupying historical Palestine, followed by anywhere else they think their psychotic chaos can make zusa’s perceived ‘enemies’ spit chips, or themselves some ‘filthy lucre,’ in their ‘rule the whole world’ mass-psychosis.

    An updated ‘classical’ quote [my update re original ‘me … priest’ in bold]:

    “Who will rid us of this turbulent & psychopathic rogue-regime?”


    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Patriot420
  288. @Commentator Mike

    > Francesco Cossiga said to Corriere della Sera “that the 911 attacks “were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.”

    He made no such statement. He was mocking some voices in the Italian media who did claim such.

    “From what I have been told tomorrow or the day after tomorrow the most powerful daily-magazine chain of our country should give proof, with an exceptional scoop …”

    His actual views of 911 were that:

    “IN a few days marks the anniversary the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon by the terrorists of the powerful movement of ‘Islamic Revenge’ Al Qaeda and the fall of a third kamikaze plane (intended for impact against the White House) …”

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
  289. @bj0311

    How so? In what way are regarded as a Terrorist? Did participate in Jan 6th? At Trump’s behest? If so, that means you were following Trump not the Constitution.

  290. @skrik

    “in violation of the temporary air borders”

    You mean the illegal air border not recognized by International Law?

    • Replies: @skrik
  291. skrik says:

    Pot, meet kettle!

    not recognized by International Law

    What of zusa’s illegal occupation of Syria, say? [Only one of a myriad illegal actions.]

    More’s to the point, what of the invading alien squatters illegally occupying historical Palestine? [Certainly the most egregious of illegal actions.]

    You want to discuss ‘legal?’

    Russia’s SMO is *not* illegal; it is based on Section 51 of the Charter, R2P concept. Since the 4 new oblasts have voted to join Russia [Section 2 of the Charter, IIRC], Russian forces are mostly within Russia (OK, some adjacent), but they are there *legally* to defend Russian citizens from the marauding depredations [dating from 2014, est. 14k+ innocent civilians murdered] by zusa/nato/EU-encouraged, sponsored and armed Ukrainian patsies, many of whom are ‘self-declared and self-labelled’ neonazis. Try this headline:

    “Drone incident confirms US involvement in Ukraine conflict – Russia”

    As if any competent person didn’t know, eh? But the ‘great unwashed’ as the so-called ‘leadership’ of zusa/nato/EU believe the filthily lying propaganda the corrupt&venal ‘Western’ MSM+PFBCs continue to catapult at us.

    Truth + justice = peace; zusa/nato/EU + IL & Ukraine do not qualify.

    • Replies: @skrik
  292. David B says:

    “put the US on the moon” ROTFLMAO

  293. skrik says:

    Stop press!

    Just found this:

    “16 Mar, 2023 11:10
    Pentagon releases video of doomed drone chased by Russian jet”

    Here’s the video:

    Here’s an image of an MQ-9 Reaper:Now I’d like someone to explain, how any flying-by aircraft could damage the propeller – without removing all or at least some part – of the tail? [Suggestion: Video fakery!] rgds

    • Replies: @skrik
  294. anon[314] • Disclaimer says:

    These theories didn’t really take off until the Brits needed to come up with a reason to show their Indian slave colony how they were “just like them.” As far as I can tell the British Raj flattered a lot of the Hindu into submission. Somehow the Hindu all think they are Indo-Europeans but this theory is not so popular among Arabs, who obviously more closely resemble Europeans (especially southern Europeans) than the Hindu do.

    A lot of scholars don’t believe in this “Indo-European” stuff. I don’t follow this line of thinking very closely… however I have heard Hal Doume mentioned as an authority on the subject with a very different point of view.

    Edit: After re-reading your comment I’m not sure if we disagree. Again, this is a field of study I’ve only tangentially been exposed to.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  295. skrik says:

    From :

    The Reaper has a 950-shaft-horsepower (712 kW) turboprop engine

    Max takeoff weight: 10,494 lb (4,760 kg)

    Hmmm; if it has a glide-ratio of 10:1, say, it needs 4,760 kg / 10 = 476kg thrust, from that 712kW (950HP) engine. That’s a lot of power.

    One may imagine just how tough that propeller would have to be – but the zusa video ‘showed’ that one blade [of 4] was bent like a pretzel, by a passing su-27, which then returned [60km or so] to base and landed, undamaged? Must be some magic going on here…

    [Recall Newton; every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Sooo, what did that equal and opposite reaction do to the allegedly colliding su-27?]

    Well might one go “hmmm.”

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  296. @Anonymous

    European Space Agency says it has no plans to send astronauts to China’s Tiangong space station

    As if the Tiangong needs European Space Agency to make it operational.

  297. @Wokechoke

    I’ve read a few Flashmans and Sharpes but not all of either. I missed that one. I assume that individual events were loosely based on actual events. In the film Stalingrad, a Nazi officer talks about Stalingrad as the gateway to India.

    Personally I find The Steppe appallingly empty. I can’t conceive how the Mongols et al crossed it with large armies. Each clump of grass is centimetres from the next because of the below ground battle of the roots for water. I can easily see how armies could run out of supplies there. Even if the mounted cavalry advance from river to waterhole, the supply chains would find it tough.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  298. The Fun Hasn’t Started Until Some English Professor Persian Pipes Up From The Pistachio Gallery

  299. @Wizard of Oz

    Reread your own comment as hole. there is nothing but pathetic slandering.
    WW3 is now unavoidable. We will see who will have a last laugh.
    If we survive.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  300. Unconfirmed JFYI.

    Seems US official Peter Baker commented it would be difficult maybe impossible for them to recover Reaper drone from seabed.
    RF official Maria Zakharova advised him to contact NYT for phone of Ukrainians they said blew up Nord Stream pipeline… 😎

    Anyway, looks like recovery vessel en route from Crimea.

    Conflicting reports on the MQ9 surveillance drone, said to have advanced equipment. Fox News says no real problem if/when Russians study it, Guardian says major intelligence concerns for Washington.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  301. Ron Unz says:

    A potentially dramatic development from the Saudis, as the other shoe just dropped:

    They say they’ll refuse to sell their oil to any country that imposes a price cap on it. America and all its Western vassals have imposed price caps on Russian oil. Although that’s not covered by the Saudi threat, if they extended it to price-caps in general, all the Western economies would collapse.

    With the backing of Russia and China, they have the West by the neck.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Zarathustra
  302. @Ron Unz

    I think you are missing the point. Saudi Arabia doesn’t want to have the West by the neck “with the backing of Russia and China”. Their manoeuvring is surely far more subtle At the very least the West gets the message that it can’t take KSA for granted and that it better be indulged when possible. I bet there are calls between DC and Jerusalem seeking reassurance that KSA doesn’t really signalled it has gone over the hill.

    • Agree: TBeholder
    • Replies: @TBeholder
  303. Odyssey says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Happy St. Patrick’s Day to you. Have a couple pints of Guinness for us, too, will you?

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  304. Odyssey says:
    @Von Rho

    I have already asked a couple of times when the Germans and Greeks came to Europe and from where. There was no answer, nor was there a denial that the former came from Asia and the latter from the Middle East. It is interesting that neither of them know the meaning of their names given to them by the natives of Europe. Your question reminded me to ask the same question about the Chinese. When and where from did the Chinese come to China?

  305. @Zarathustra

    Reread your own comment as hole [sic]

    Well of course your discourteous carelessness is again on full display but, even with the spelling corrected what you say makes no sense. Please spell it out if you are capable.

  306. Odyssey says:

    Thanks for your contribution. It is one of those historical falsifications that reverberates to this day and has its practical political consequences. The term ‘Indo-European’ was coined. Before that it was called ‘Indo-Germanic’ until the balance of power shifted and the Anglo-Frenches demanded their piece of the action. The term is meaningless and without substance. At first it was used only for the administrative classification of languages, and then for the language of Yamnaya nomads from the Russian steppes, who were later also named – ‘Indo-Europeans’.

    The IE theory is incomplete and illogical and cannot explain the origin of language(s). They try to pretend that these ‘Indo-Europeans’ were Aryans who brought the language that became Sanskrit (and Avestan), although genetics has established that Aryans were not ‘Indo-European’ (Yamnaya) nomads, but Sanskrit (and other Indo languages) are still classified as ‘Indo-European languages’. Total nonsense.

  307. @Arthur MacBride

    CNN just said that Russians already recovered some parts. Soon Iranian will start the revers Engineering.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  308. @skrik

    One may imagine just how tough that propeller would have to be – but the zusa video ‘showed’ that one blade [of 4] was bent like a pretzel, by a passing su-27, which then returned [60km or so] to base and landed, undamaged? Must be some magic going on here…

    Video, fuel dump, propeller, it’s Hollywood magic…..CGI. Don’t believe everything you see. Look what they could do 10 years ago:

  309. @Ron Unz

    Next step is inevitable. Saudis Iranians and Russians will create cartel and they will set the price of oil
    World wide.

    Oh God. How times fly. Just a while ago Iraq and Iran were fighting for buyers.

    Message to Wizard of OZ
    On top all You are DISHONEST Why you did not show the all sentence.
    Anyway. I am sorry. I will not be bothering you anymore.

    • LOL: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  310. anon[750] • Disclaimer says:

    Two US senators – Cruz and Hawley, went to HK to meet with the protesters.

    Twitter VP Colin Crowell met with the Hong Kong protest leaders(Joshua Wong and others) in the US.

    Facebook suspended the account of Clifton Ko, a well-known HK director and a Beijing sympathizer, for simply posted “I support the HK police”.

    The New York Times › 2019/08/19 › technology › h…
    Aug 19, 2019 — The social media companies removed accounts and said they were sowing divisive messages about the Hong Kong protests.

    As for the YT channels that I watched, I don’t think they were censored for the reason you mentioned.

    Given what Twitter Files have exposed, we now know more about how the US government got involved with censorship and disinformation.

    Looking back, I am not surprised if the US government coordinated with YT, Twitter, Facebook, and Google. Why wouldn’t they try to control the narrative? It’s clear now that the US was behind the “color” revolution in HK.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  311. @anon

    I do wish that China would give that hideous compradore traitor, Joshua Wong, a proper sentence, say ten years.

  312. @Patrick McNally

    Obviously he was leaned on. Are you really so fatuously naive?

  313. @Von Rho

    Arrogant ignoramus. The Sassanian Empire commenced in 224CE, at which time China had several thousand years of civilization and proto-civilization, including four hundred years in Central Asia.
    The Sassanids followed the Parthians, Achmaenids, the Seleucids etc in Persia, and the whole region was influenced by cultures from the Indus Valley civilizations to Armenia, the Macedonians, Romans etc. The history of Eurasia is vast, much unknown, and to reduce it to ‘blonde White Man’ good, others imbeciles, is despicable.

    • Replies: @Lin
    , @Von Rho
  314. @Zarathustra

    Where were you educated? It seems that you had and have a problem with written English. I did in fact quote what I took to be the full first sentence because you put a full stop at the end. Thus

    Reread your own comment as hole. there is nothing but pathetic slandering.

    I confess to not having understood what an uncouth low grade person you are so I misread that first sentence but that does not help you in anyway to validate your second sentence which is plainly FALSE. Not only was there no slander in what I wrote, it was a challenge for you to justify your false allegation which you haven’t even tried to meet.

  315. Lin says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Thank you; since I seldom bicker with emotional people. As I said Aryans could mean either of the followings:
    **Its the ancient word for Iranians…..
    **A very large lingual group.
    **The Hitlerite narrative for a fair skin ‘ubermensch’– Although it has been largely ‘discredited’, it did get a critical mass of followers…….
    There’s a problem with the central asian aryans: Though they had ‘Oral Tradition’, written language came quite a bit later,are%20attested%20in%20original%20texts.
    “…Old Persian appears primarily in the inscriptions, clay tablets and seals of the Achaemenid era (c. 600 BCE to 300 BCE). ….Old Persian is one of the oldest Indo-European languages which are attested in original texts…”
    “…That inscription was issued by the 28th Satavahana ruler Vijaya, who had ruled the empire in the 3rd century AD..”
    Mahabharata,the great hindu classic was written down much later than its oral form
    “..BEIJING — Archaeologists say they have discovered some of the world’s oldest known primitive writing, dating back 5,000 years, in eastern China…”

    • Replies: @Von Rho
    , @Odyssey
  316. Von Rho says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Taoist yin-yang dualism was created under the influence of Persian dualism (Ahura Mazda/Ahriman). But as animists that they were, the Chinese did not incorporate this influence as gods, but “principles” (in quotation marks, since animism did not reach abstraction as in polytheism)

  317. Von Rho says:

    Five thousand years? Delusional! China’s culture is animistic, so they could never create a civilization like the polytheists (Mesoamerican, Hinduist, Greco-Roman, Persian, Hittite cultures) but just jumped right into the civilizational stage due to an outside influence, i.e. Zoroastrian Persia and Buddhist India. About those datations you mentioned, C14 is not precise, because it needs a calibration with tree rings , what it is not the case. All this resembles the archaeological “findings” of Nazi Ahnenerbe.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  318. TBeholder says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Hmm. Now that they have no fear of USA, Saudi can pursue their interests with less restraint… oh wait. It’s a double-edged development. USA cannot spank them, but cannot help them much, either. Also, if the leash on KSA weakened, so did the leash on Israel.
    Thus the most obvious direction for now is to make money without angering either of their neighbors too much. Certainly won’t let USA fight anyone with their hands.
    But will they indeed go full Turkey and extort the big needy “ally” at every turn? Maybe not, depends on how they rate the threats. I won’t bet against this, however.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  319. Wokechoke says:
    @Philip Owen

    Flashman at the Charge is literally about the contest in the Black Sea and Central Asia in the 1850s. It’s on audio books YouTube if that’s your thing.

    Flashman managed to be at The Thin Red Line, Alma and the Charge.

  320. @Von Rho

    Provisional thanks as I propose still to learn about such stuff in this life😉

    • Replies: @Von Rho
  321. Odyssey says:

    You don’t seem to know much more about all of this than Wikipedia. Sanskrit is not older than 2000BC and Avestan is much younger. So, where did proto-Sanskrit come from i.e. where did the Aryans come from? Where did the Rg Vedas originate and what does their name means? Where did the oral version of the Mahabharata originate? Buddhism came to China from India during the time of the Aryans.

    • Replies: @Lin
  322. @mulga mumblebrain

    BS. You have to start by proving he was intending a non satirical factual statement contrary to what he later, most plausibly, stated. You can’t.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  323. Von Rho says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I suggest you read Auguste Comte, the most hated philosopher of all time. Humanity goes through both animistic and abstract phases. The second is first polytheistic and finally monotheistic, which allows a more universalist thought, leading to the metaphysical phase, which opens the way to the positive phase. Theological stages ensure order but not progress. Metaphysics is self-defeating (as we see these days, even on the Gnostic right wing), so it allows progress but not order. Psoitivism wants order and progress.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  324. Von Rho says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Italy is not a serious country. What an Italian politician, or even a scientist, philosopher, writer, etc. says does not matter.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  325. @Odyssey

    Tea is the beverage that I most often drink. The American Legion did have a corned beef and cabbage dinner for 10 dollars yesterday. Nowadays, are through the roof.

    • LOL: Odyssey
  326. @Von Rho

    I wasn’t the one who brought him up.

  327. @Patrick McNally

    What s brilliant Gotcha against the egregious MM.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  328. Folkvangr says:
    @Step up your game

    Unz really has to step up his game if he wants to be taken seriously.

    Too late, unless he is insightful enough to throw off his sinking ship the ballast called “Larry Romanoff & Co.”

  329. Lin says:

    Central Asian ‘history’ sure is complex but some conclusion can be drawn
    –If it’s immense as well as old, ‘defining’ the oldest ‘origin’ could become fussy before locating its birth place
    –Aryan written languages came quite a bit later also mean proper historiography was lacking and much are left to speculation(religious/nationalistic/tribal or not)
    A good example is that the hindus lack proper pre-Mogul history records, the first historian attempting to write on a wider pan-subcontinent scale was Alberuni, a Muslim scholar,who accompanied a muslim conqueror king.

    Where did the oral version of the Mahabharata originate?

    The question is also the answer

  330. @Patrick McNally

    Patrick, it’s an old pilpul tactic, when some goy notices a Talmudic tract that urges killing the goyim, or some ‘Sage’ like Maimonides repeats the invective, to claim that they were just being sarcastic, or joking. When it is obvious that the MOSSAD did the job, and there is some slip of the tongue, the offending eminent person no doubt receives a message from the Kidon machine, and decides to go on living. You believe what you want to believe, and I’ll go on believing the truth. Look out from congratulations from Top Level.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  331. @Von Rho

    Comte died in 1857. Do you think that humanity may have moved on and evolved since those halcyon days? Was Comte a student of Chinese and Indian civilizations?

    • Replies: @anon
  332. @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, Top Level, but the observation that the MOSSAD did it, and the intelligence agencies knew it was TRUE, whereas the ‘non-sarcastic’ garbage was probably made under duress. His ‘sarcastic’ words were the precise truth of the matter. That Western politicians and MSM vermin say that it was ‘sarcasm’ proves that it was not, because all they do is LIE.

  333. @Wizard of Oz

    Sorry… “that’s a brilliant Gotcha”

  334. JFYI

    Normalisation continues in Arab world.
    Following his visit to Moscow, Syrian Pres Bashar al Assad visits UAE.
    Interesting as UAE was considered a western ally.
    Like KSA, Oman.

    USA is officially “disappointed”.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  335. @Arthur MacBride

    There is also an Iran Iraq Security Cooperation meeting now.

    Excuse brief clip.
    Tried to copy headline and some detail but it went haywire.

  336. ” … San Diego’s Point Loma Naval Base on March 13, where the US imperium, backed up by a number of lickspittles from Australia and the United Kingdom, betrayed the cause of peace and announced to the world that war with China was not only a possibility but distinctly probable.

    Central to the project is a staggering outlay of A$368 billion for up to thirteen vessels over three decades …”

    Extract above from analysis of future war on China/allies.
    It’s amusing if you like dark humour.
    Or can’t believe that erm “statesmen” can be this foolish.
    There’s a pic of the three musketeers Biden, Sunak and Australian PM Albanese.
    Latter is expected to fork over the cash on behalf of grateful Oz citizens.
    Article describes this obvious simpleton as “lexically challenged” …

    It is understood that the Chinese will wait several decades for these buffoons to get their act together and make active atomic war on them.
    CIA MI6 has guaranteed this. Just can’t fail.

  337. This article’s main stars are three non-democratic countries. A renowned author had some ideas about this type of country and what to do about them in an article written in 2002.
    After a series of considerations on the pros and cons of the usual tactics employed to enforce liberalism and democracy, he comes up with a touchingly ingenious proposition:

    A more general, perhaps more powerful approach, is for the international community to agree on general, enforceable political standards. One such standard, which might conceivably win international consent, would be an “international term limit” on heads of government. The world community would agree that no individual should serve as the head of government (president, prime minister, or other equivalent position) for more than “X” years. International agencies such as the World Bank and the IMF would automatically stop making loans to countries where the head of government exceeds that limit.

    After some considerations displaying amazing foresight (e.g. “Even non-democracies such as modernized China could accept this rule, because it would apply to heads of government, not ruling parties.”), he closes the article in an optimistic note, stating that “it is possible that a clear international norm limiting time in power could spare the world from dictatorship and destabilization in the future.”
    I expect this article has ensured some sizeable funding money from Mr. Soros to the author in question.
    Dictating Limits to Dictators
    by Jeffrey D. Sachs

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  338. anon[229] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Von Rho is just another boomer. There are too many boomers.

  339. @Brás Cubas

    I expect this article has ensured some sizeable funding money from Mr. Soros to the author in question.
    Dictating Limits to Dictators
    by Jeffrey D. Sachs

    It appears a leopard can’t change it’s spots. After Sach’s guidance to Yeltsin and Russia’s subsequent economic demise, who would have thought.

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  340. @mulga mumblebrain

    There’s no point in trying to debate what was going through Cossiga’s head. After awhile it becomes like the arguments over Larry Silverstein saying, “Pull it!” Was he really secretly revealing a conspiracy to blow up WTC 7 when he made that comment? Was he trying to rile up some silly 911truthers? Was it maybe just a casual, careless comment? There’s no real way of knowing what was going through his head. But as far as Cossiga’s comments go, it is clear that the statement of 2007 was sarcastically making fun of what another source in Italy was saying, while the statement of 2006 was simply presented as his view of what happened on 911.

    If people seriously think there was something behind his statement, then they should look up the daily that he was referencing:

    “From what I have been told tomorrow or the day after tomorrow the most powerful daily-magazine chain of our country should give proof, with an exceptional scoop …”

    It’s clear that he was making fun of the whole thing here, but he himself was not confessing to anything. He was simply commenting about what a newspaper was about to publish. No one had ever really bothered looking up the newspaper story, because it probably didn’t contain any new information beyond just things which 911truthers have said over and over (I said a lot of the same things myself back in 2003-5). But Cossiga’s sarcastic comment is not a new data-point for anything.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
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  341. @dogbumbreath

    It appears a leopard can’t change it’s spots.

    I guess that depends on what you mean by “changing one’s spots”. If you mean that he was once a hardened liberal and so will always be a liberal, I have my doubts. On the other hand, if you mean that he was an opportunist who fashioned his ideological viewpoint according to where the wind was blowing, and remains such an opportunist, then I think that’s a plausible assessment.

  342. joy says:

    “Public figures who spoke out against the war such as journalist Phil Donahue or the country music band The Dixie Chicks were censored and effectively had their careers destroyed. ”
    MiddleEast Eye.

    This is America. It behaves like African dictators .When challenged ,the morons in the media and the media – educated stupid American will explain it as an aberration necessarry for the extraordinary situation.
    But the third world nations are perpetually kept by the west on extraordinary situations.

    Another facet of this silencing is that nothing is sacrosanct ,nothing is insignificant and not even musical group made of young girls can expect exemption or relief from the overarching wrathful small minded arrogance.

  343. @Patrick McNally

    ‘Riling up’ 9/11 truthers, in real time, before 911 truthers even existed??!! ‘Lucky’ Larry who did not attend breakfast in the Towers for the first time anyone could recall, just that day? ‘Lucky’ Larry who had a co-religionist ‘judge’ double his insurance payout?
    And the ‘official version’ of 911 is SO ludicrous, and the evidence of controlled demolition so huge that all you have left is to simply dismiss it with idiot expressions like ‘911 truthers’. Do you really have something against the truth?

  344. @mulga mumblebrain

    He got a payout of 4.55 billion,

    for “the project — estimated to cost more than $9 billion…”

    That doesn’t really sound like a great windfall.

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
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  345. @mulga mumblebrain

    Note that Larry Silverstein reinsured the towers he had just bought as required by bankers but not WTC7. I’d wou had just bought WTC 2vand 2 which you knew had already been attacked with a terrorist bomb wouldn’t you have said yes to your insurance broker saying “and for just a small extra premium…”?


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  346. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:

    I love MBS’ condition to Biden for Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel: that SA be allowed to start a “civilian” nuclear program. Hahaha. Talk about a stroke of genius. I don’t expect he’ll hear back from JUSA anytime soon.

  347. @mulga mumblebrain

    What do you regard as the key reasons for believing there were controlled demolitions? And do you reject the possibility of half a million tons of building above floors where steel supports have been weakened by fire might cause the building to collapse?

    • Replies: @skrik
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  348. skrik says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The wanker wozzer emulates King Canute and the tide: Canute set his throne by the sea shore and commanded the incoming tide to halt.

    The wanker wozzer commands: ‘No controlled demolitions’ – “steel supports have been weakened by fire might [eh? – might?] cause the building to collapse?”

    Poor fool, s/he/it simply can’t believe the widely accepted *facts* that yes, Virginia, there were controlled demolitions. Not just one but all three WTCs.

    1st ‘cab off the rank’ = a proof = WTC7. Pre-wiring could never have been done on that day, it takes weeks. But down it came all at once [NIST finally acknowledged ~2.5 seconds free fall], see any video.

    Tip: Follow the science, try seeing a psychiatrist?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  349. @skrik

    FWIW I have long since pointed out that WTC 7 doesn’t fit the plan to make people think the major attackers were jihadist Arabs who hijacked planes. But you have to be one of the truthers who can hold more than one or two ideas in mind at the same time to consider that and see its possibly critical importance.

  350. @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, of course. The fires could not have reached temperatures able to weaken the multitudinous steel columns (the towers were constructed with a great deal of redundancy in the structural support) , coated as they were in asbestos, another reason for the towers’ demolition (too dangerous and expensive to maintain). And there are a number of photos of girders cut through like butter at an angle, a sure sign of demolition using nanothermite. And the fall, straight down, at gravitational acceleration is a bit of a clue, too. A great job by those MOSSAD and IDF sappers. PS You do know that such buildings MUST be constructed as to be able to survive collisions by passenger airplanes, don’t you? Such things are possible, after all.

  351. @Wizard of Oz

    Silverstein, and our local Haganah hero Frank Lowy, insured the towers for massively more than their assessed value, just weeks before 9/11, when, contrary to invariable habit, neither Silverstein nor any of his family were having breakfast in the ‘Windows on the World Restaurant’. ‘Lucky’ Larry, indeed. The insurance sum was so vast it took twenty-five underwriters to accommodate it, so WTC 7 may have been a bridge too far.

  352. @Patrick McNally

    What? The nine billion dollar project (do you mean his prospective redevelopment of the site?)becomes valued at zilch, does it? Not an asset on Larry’s books? How so? The WTC complex had been valued at 1.2 billion in 2001, and insured for 1.5 billion, NOT 4.55 billion. And Silverstein put down only $14 MILLION of his own money to gain a 99 year lease on the Twin Towers and Buildings 4 and 5. Lucky indeed.

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