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I wasn’t closely following the midterm elections campaign, but the results seemed to be about as expected for Donald Trump and the Republicans. With some races still undecided, the Democrats will apparently pick up close to 35 House seats, giving them solid control, and also a half-dozen governorships, while losing at least a couple of Senate seats. These overall Democratic gains seem roughly what might be expected for the first midterm after a Republican presidential victory, but nothing at all like the “blue wave” that had seemed possible a few months earlier, before the bitter public battle over the Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination greatly re-energized the Republican base.

Perhaps the loss of the House may actually prove to be a mixed blessing for Trump. Democrats will achieve control of all the investigative committees and their accusations and subpoenas will make Trump’s life even more miserable than it was before, while surely removing any chance that significant elements of Trump’s remaining agenda will ever be enacted. However, although Trump had reached the presidency by advocating a radical populist-nationalist agenda, he has hardly governed in those terms. For his first two years in office, he sunk nearly all his political capital into enacting huge tax cuts for the rich, wholesale Wall Street deregulation, large increases in military spending, and an extremely pro-Israel foreign policy—exactly the sort of policies near-and-dear to the establishment conservative candidates whom he had crushed in the Republican primaries. Meanwhile, his jilted grassroots supporters have had to settle for some radical rhetoric and a regular barrage of outrageous Tweets rather than anything more substantive. With Republicans in full control of Congress, finding excuses for this widespread betrayal was quite difficult, but now that the Democrats have taken the House, Trump’s apologists can more easily shift the blame over to them.

Meanwhile, a considerably stronger Republican Senate will certainly ease the way for Trump’s future court nominees, especially if another Supreme Court vacancy occurs, and there will be little chance of any difficult Kavanaugh battles. However, here once again, Trump’s supposed radicalism has merely been rhetorical. Kavanaugh and nearly all of his other nominees have been very mainstream Republican choices, carefully vetted by the Federalist Society and other conservative establishment groups, and they would probably have been near the top of the list if Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio were sitting in the Oval Office.

Both Trump’s supporters and his opponents claim that his presidency represents a drastic break from Republican business-as-usual, and surely that was the hope of many of the Americans who voted for him in 2016, but the actual reality often seems rather different.

Although the net election results were not particularly bad for the Republicans, the implications of several state races seem extremely worrisome. The highest profile senate race was in Texas, and Trump may have narrowly dodged a bullet. Among our largest states, Texas ranks as by far the most solidly Republican, and therefore it serves as the central lynchpin of every Republican presidential campaign. The GOP has won every major statewide race for more than twenty years, but despite such seemingly huge advantages, incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz faced a very difficult reelection race against a young border-area Congressman named Beto O’Rourke, who drew enormous enthusiasm and an ocean of local and national funding.

I was actually in Texas just a couple of days before the vote, speaking at a Ron Paul-related conference in the Houston area, and although most of the libertarian-leaning attendees thought that Cruz would probably win, they all agreed with the national media that it would probably be close. Cruz’s final victory margin of less than three points confirmed this verdict.

But if things had gone differently, and O’Rourke had squeaked out a narrow win, our national politics would have been immediately transformed. Any Republican able to win California has a near-lock on the White House, and the same is true for any Democrat able to carry Texas, especially if the latter is a young and attractive Kennedyesque liberal, fluent in Spanish and probably very popular with the large Latino populations of other important states such as Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado. I strongly suspect that a freshman Sen. O’Rourke (R-Texas) would have been offered the 2020 Democratic nomination almost by acclamation, and barring unexpected personal or national developments, would have been a strong favorite in that race against Trump or any other Republican. Rep. O’Rourke raised an astonishing $70 million in nationwide donations, and surely many of his contributors were dreaming of similar possibilities. A shift of just a point and a half, and in twenty-four months he probably would have been our next president. But it was not to be.

Still, the very close nature of the race does not bode well for long-term Republican control over what has certainly become one of their must-win states. O’Rourke may have been an especially attractive candidate and Cruz has often described as unlikeable, but a small margin of victory drawn entirely from the older and whiter portion of the Texas electorate reinforces the growing GOP fear that changing demographics are inevitably shifting Texas toward the Democrats.

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These negative indications were even stronger in the high-profile gubernatorial races in Florida and Georgia, each narrowly won by a right-wing white Republican who faced a left-wing black Democrat. In the past a matches along such racial and ideological lines in Southern states would have been expected to produce a blowout GOP victories, but this year the margin was less than two points in Georgia and less than one in Florida. These surprisingly strong showings by the two black Democrats came despite the considerable personal baggage each had carried, with the Florida candidate under possible investigation in a local corruption scandal and the one in Georgia owing over $50,000 in unpaid federal income taxes. Normally, these would have been exactly the sort of factors that provided a racially-suspicious white electorate a convenient sort of “psychological deniability,” allowing them to vote for the white candidate with a clear conscience.

Although Florida was traditionally a swing state, Georgia had been solidly Republican for many years, at least on the federal level, supporting the Republican presidential candidate in six of the last seven elections, with only fellow Southerner Bill Clinton carrying it by a whisker in 1992. Both Georgia senators had been Republican since 2005, as had been most of the Congressional delegation for over two decades, along with every current statewide officeholder. Georgia had elected some prominent Democrats in the not too distant distant past, but these had always been white moderates of the Southern variety. In a society whose politics was still substantially divided along racial lines, electing a vocal left-liberal black as governor might have seemed almost unthinkable, but it came within a couple of points of happening.

The apparent Democratic victory in a close Arizona Senate race represents another severe warning sign to the Republicans. With the sole exception of 1996, that state had backed the Republican presidential ticket without fail in every national election since 1960 and both senators had been Republican since 1995, with the Congressional delegation generally skewing in that same direction for the last half century. Yet a Democrat now seems to have won an open Senate seat, something that had last happened in 1976.

The obvious factor driving the political realignments in both Georgia and Arizona are the long-term demographic trends, especially the rapid growth of the local Hispanic population. When combined with harsh anti-immigrant rhetoric by Republicans at both the national and the local levels, the result may eventually prove lethal to GOP prospects in both those states. And indeed I had predicted exactly these developments back in 2011:

Now consider the likely political future of a state such as Arizona, ground zero of the most recent national anti-immigrant backlash by nervous whites. A severe recession and rapidly changing demographics had alarmed Arizona voters, many of them elderly retirees from elsewhere, leaving them vulnerable to wild rumors of a huge immigrant crime wave, including beheadings and kidnappings, almost all of which was complete nonsense. As a result, harsh anti-immigrant measures were passed into law, and their mostly Republican supporters won sweeping victories among an electorate that is today roughly 80 percent white.

But buried near the bottom of a single one of the innumerable New York Times articles analyzing Arizona politics was the seemingly minor and irrelevant fact that almost half of all Arizona schoolchildren are now Hispanic. Meanwhile, according to Census data, over 80 percent of Arizonans aged 65 or older are white. A decade or more from now it seems likely that Arizona whites and Hispanics will enjoy perfectly good relations, and the former will have long since forgotten their current “immigrant scare.” But the latter will still remember it, and the once mighty Arizona Republican Party will be set on the road to oblivion.

Even in a rock-solid Deep South Republican state like Georgia, Hispanics have now grown into a remarkable 10 percent of the population, up from almost nothing in the early 1990s, and represent an even larger share of younger Georgians. So unless the local Republican Party can somehow greatly enhance its appeal to the 30 percent of Georgians who are black, the current wave of anti-immigrant legislation may prove highly problematical ten or 20 years down the road.

This pattern of immigration-driven demographic shifts producing a sharp but temporary backlash among conservative voters, later followed by the political collapse of the local Republican Party is hardly new to me. I first suggested this strong possibility for my own native state of California over twenty-five years ago, and I have subsequently published numerous articles and columns outlining the political dynamics both before, during, and after these political situations have occurred.

Although many of my pieces were published in leading conservative outlets such as the Wall Street Journal, and often were widely discussed and even endorsed in elite Republican circles, the immediate political pressures in the opposite direction have invariably been too strong. As a direct consequence, the once mighty California Republican Party has steadily declined into irrelevancy, most recently dropping below 25% of the electorate. For many years now, all statewide offices have been held by Democrats, who also now hold a super-majority in the State Legislature, while there is a reasonable chance that after all the races are decided, the size of the GOP Congressional delegation will have fallen to single digits.

I think my entire analysis of these political dynamics whether in California or nationally has held up very well, and I would scarcely change a single word I had previously written. Therefore, I see no reason to repeat myself at great length. Instead, I urge those so interested to read a couple of my past articles that cover the subject in considerable detail, and then decide for themselves whether in hindsight my analysis seems to have been correct.

 

Obviously, racial politics in America currently revolves around the positions taken by the Trump Administration. For foreign policy reasons, I had strongly favored Trump both in the primary and in the general election, but I hardly regarded him as a thoughtful vessel for the positions he claimed to espouse. To put it bluntly, he struck me much like a highly-opinionated construction worker, angrily spouting off on politics in his local neighborhood bar, being right on some matters and wrong on others, but with none of his views based upon any deep understanding of the issues. I suspect that even many of Trump’s strongest supporters have gradually come around to a similar appraisal of their idol.

This is nowhere better illustrated than in the issue of immigration, which surely won Trump the Republican nomination and played a major role in his unexpected general election victory. From the very beginning, his entirely wrong-headed approach to this highly contentious topic seems almost perfectly calculated to be both ineffective and severely damaging to his supposed goals.

A strong case can be made that American immigration levels have been far too high for many years and should be sharply reduced, and such a change would also greatly slow the ongoing demographic transformation that has so agitated large portions of the white American majority. But in this regard, Trump’s overwhelming focus on illegal immigration makes absolutely no sense at all. If we exclude a relatively small portion of the most highly-skilled legal immigrants, the remainder are probably not all that different in their characteristics from their undocumented counterparts, and indeed individuals may often shift back and forth between these two categories over time, as illegals gain green cards or legals remain here after their temporary visas expire. The ubiquitous rhetorical focus on illegal immigrants seems mostly due to a mixture of “political correctness” and political demagoguery, supplemented by sheer ignorance.

According to most estimates, the size of America’s undocumented population has been almost entirely stagnant since the Housing Meltdown wrecked employment in the construction industry, while net legal immigration has still regularly been running at a million or more a year. Therefore, it seems likely that nearly all net immigration over the last decade or so has been of the legal variety.

These simple facts apparently escape some of the loudest voices on the subject. For example, a year or so ago I happened to listen to the podcast of a leading Alt-Right personality, a prominent Trump supporter who claimed he made illegal immigration his central political focus. When asked why he generally ignored legal immigration, he answered that the numbers in that category were just too low to much matter. With such inspired leadership, the collapse of the Alt-Right movement hardly surprised me.

The signature issue of Trump’s populist campaign was to a build a wall across our Mexican border aimed at blocking the flow of illegal immigrants, and many of Trump’s supporters have become bitter at his total failure to achieve even a shred of that promise. But as I’ve frequently pointed out, the whole idea makes absolutely no sense at all. Suppose that Trump had built his wall, standing 700 feet tall and fronted by land-mines and self-firing machine-guns. If (say) 95% of our immigrants come across the border legally, how would such a wall have had any real impact on that flow? Policies based upon a total ignorance of the facts are unlikely to be successful.

Trump launched his longshot presidential bid with a denunciation of the “rapists and killers” swarming across our border with Mexico, and not long afterward his campaign caught fire when the national media went into a feeding frenzy about the fatal shooting of a young white woman named Kathryn Steinle by a much-deported Mexican national living in San Francisco. Safeguarding America from the rampaging hordes of illegals has been a central theme of the Trump Administration and its supporters, so much so that he even closed the recent midterm Congressional campaign with a highly controversial television spot featuring an illegal immigrant convicted of killing two sheriffs’ deputies in 2014.

However, this widespread notion of immigrant criminality is almost entirely false. All available evidence indicates that immigrants, legal or illegal, Hispanic or otherwise, have crime rates not all that much different from native-born white Americans of the same age and gender, and often somewhat lower. I demonstrated this important result almost a decade ago, and all the subsequent information has confirmed this finding. This reality is hardly difficult to notice in our daily lives. When I first moved to Palo Alto a quarter century ago, neighboring East Palo Alto had the highest per capita murder rate in America, but after a vast wave of immigrant Hispanics transformed its demographics, the homicide rate fell by some 97%.

Many of the regular commenters on my webzine are zealous anti-immigrant activists, and whenever the national media focuses on the arrest of an illegal immigrant for a violent offence, they cite the case as confirming the dangers of immigrant criminality, with the Iowa rape and murder of Mollie Tibbetts a few months ago being the most recent example. However, this sort of anecdotal reasoning is entirely innumerate.

Most experts believe that there are roughly 11 million illegal immigrants in America, with some activists often claiming that the figure is far higher; meanwhile, there are over 15,000 annual homicides. Despite these huge numbers, I suspect that the number of ordinary middle-class whites killed by illegals is almost infinitesimal, probably no more than 10 per year if we exclude wives stabbing husbands and rival drug-dealers shooting each other. Energetic right-wing websites such as Breitbart and the Daily Stormer eagerly scan the news media in hopes of locating any stories of immigrant killings, and I’ve challenged those commenters to mine the archives of those publications in order to disprove my totals, but none of them have ever succeeded in doing so. Indeed, I suspect that killings of whites by illegal immigrants often generate national headlines partly because they are so exceptionally rare, and that the average white American is about as likely to be killed by lightning as murdered by an illegal. For a candidate to win the presidency based on a platform of lightning-abatement is hardly the mark of a serious country.

Ironically enough, even the details of San Francisco killing that so greatly boosted Trump’s fledgling campaign turned out to be very different than was widely imagined. Although most of Trump’s followers probably had the impression that the homicide had been committed by a hardened Latino criminal, perhaps a gang-banger driven by anti-white hatred, the facts that eventually came out at the trial were something else entirely. The culprit had been a disoriented homeless man, here illegally, who had apparently found a gun while picking through the trash. When he casually waved it around in a foolish and reckless manner, it suddenly discharged, with the bullet striking the pavement a dozen feet from where he sat, then ricocheting to fatally wound the unfortunate victim standing a hundred feet distant. Based on these unlikely circumstances, the tragedy seems much closer to being a lighting-strike than a typical street-killing.

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Trump’s final pre-election remarks, claiming that he possessed the legal right to issue an Executive Order abolishing our traditional birthright citizenship provisions seemed especially ridiculous, though wildly popular within his right-wing base. Automatic U.S. citizenship for all children born here, regardless of the legal status of their parents, has been settled constitutional law for well over a century, and nearly all legal experts have held that it was guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment, as later confirmed by a 19th century Supreme Court ruling. In the last decade or two, a tiny handful of lawyers have claimed this policy could actually be overturned by Congressional legislation rather than Constitutional Amendment, but prior to Trump, no one had claimed the President had the ability to strip millions of Americans of their citizenship merely by Executive Tweet.

To my eye, the legal case for the Fourteenth Amendment birthright provision seems extremely strong and those who dispute it are doing so on very dubious grounds, clearly motivated for ideological reasons. But given my lack of legal training, I would raise a different point. From the late 19th century onward, many, many millions of children have been born to illegal immigrants in this country, and all of them were always considered automatic U.S. citizens, without a single person having ever disputed that matter until quite recently. It’s not that the courts ruled that the children were citizens—it’s that across a century or so, no one had even questioned the matter enough to try to bring it before a judge, nor had any politician or opinion columnist ever raised a doubt. So opponents of birthright citizenship are clearly proposing a rather astonishing legal innovation, one which certainly would have surprised several past generations of Americans.

Now admittedly, such innovations have become somewhat more common in recent American jurisprudence. For example, as far as I know, no one in the entire history of the world had ever raised the notion of Gay Marriage until just a couple of decades ago, yet we recently discovered that our Founding Fathers had fortuitously guaranteed a right to Gay Marriage in the U.S. Constitution, where it lay undetected for more than two centuries until the time was ripe. Thus, Constitutional principles are obviously far more malleable than they might once have seemed.

Still, the practicalities of Trump’s sudden legal revolution seem quite considerable. For example, over the last century legal immigration from South of the border has been fairly low while the number of Hispanic citizens has increased by well over 40 million. Thus, it seems likely that tens of millions of these Latinos ultimately derive their citizenship from those disputed birthright provisions, and presumably some millions of white and Asian citizens would also fall into that same category. Since the legal territory is so completely uncharted, perhaps Trump believes his authority in this matter is retroactive, and for a president to strip perhaps 30 million Americans of their current citizenship with a single Tweet would certainly demonstrate the awesome power of Twitter.

In many ways, the failings of the Trump Administration illustrate the difficulties of that a superpower faces when it is run by a bar-stool political philosopher guided by his personal echo-chamber.

 

Twenty or more years ago I would have been extremely concerned about all these racially-charged political controversies involving immigration, and throughout the 1990s such issues were my central focus. But these days, I view these loud national media battles with detachment or irritation rather than anything more serious. The main reason is the recent trajectory of California, and not merely because it is my home state.

Whites had historically been minorities in a couple of small American states such as Hawaii and New Mexico, but for most of the twentieth century gigantic California had ranked as our whitest large state. Then, within a single generation it underwent one of the greatest demographic shifts in human history, rapidly becoming one of the least white. During the 1990s California whites suddenly discovered that they had become a shrinking minority of their own state’s population, but they still remained a large super-majority of the California electorate. The resulting mismatch between population and political power was a major factor in the extremely bitter Immigration Wars of that period, about which I have written at considerable length.

Although immigration issues elsewhere were only slightly visible at that time, they totally dominated California issues, with potentially disastrous consequences. Under the wrong circumstances, our politics could have devolved into an escalating cycle of bitter hostility between two large blocs, with roughly half our population consisting of native-born whites and the other half of non-whites from a recent immigrant background. Due to factors of citizenship and age, the former would have held the overwhelming majority of political power and might have been tempted to use those considerable levers to block the rise of the latter, otherwise almost inevitable due to its demographic momentum.

Back then, California represented even a larger portion of our national population than it does today, being comparable to the combined total of Texas and New York, the next two states, and as home to Hollywood and Silicon Valley, it was the long-recognized pace-setter for the country. If such a sunny and hopeful state had suddenly become embroiled in an endless cycle of racial political conflict between whites and immigrants much like the traditional black-white divides of the Deep South, that could easily have easily set the pattern nationwide.

Some especially unfortunate social policies potentially magnified this risk. Historically, the leading source of national ethnic division has usually been along the lines of language, and California seemed especially vulnerable in this regard. Almost everywhere in the world, immigrant children are taught the national language of their new country, and this had always been the case in our own schools as well. But for totally bizarre and inexplicable reasons, America had gradually abandoned this sensible policy for Hispanic immigrants. California was the national center of this newly created system of Spanish-almost-only instruction, misnamed “bilingual education,” with up to 70% of Latino children spending at least some of their school years in those classes, and as a result often failing to properly achieve English literacy. If our country’s largest and most important state had become sharply divided along lines of ethnicity and language, a national disaster with separatist overtones might have become a realistic possibility, especially as the pattern of immigrant relations in other states began following the dominant California model.

Fortunately, despite the very serious risks this national calamity was narrowly averted, partly through the hard work of many individuals, partly through luck, and partly through the sheer political incompetence of the California Republican Party, which Gov. Pete Wilson had opportunistically positioned as the standard-bearer of the anti-immigrant cause. Although demagoguery often produces strong short-term advantages, the California Republicans instead quickly fell into a sharp decline that has continued almost unabated to the present day, with California soon becoming a one-party Democratic state.

California’s transformed political landscape may be illustrated by a single example. In late 1994, I was a top featured speaker at a 70,000 person anti-Prop. 187 rally held in Los Angeles, the largest pro-immigrant protest in American history. The event had been organized by a local immigrant rights activist named Juan Jose Guttierez and his young Latino assistant then just a couple of years out of college, while apparently receiving little support from any of the state’s rather timorous Hispanic elected officials.

A few years later, that young assistant, Kevin de Leon, went into politics himself. Gradually rising through the ranks, he most recently served as President of the State Senate and this November received over 45% of the vote in his unsuccessful challenge to 85-year-old incumbent Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who had held public office almost longer than her challenger had been alive. As I’ve sometimes joked with journalists over the years, De Leon seems to have done much better politically over the last 25 years than either Gov. Wilson or the California Republican Party.

Partly because the California Republicans failed so quickly in their political attempt to capitalize upon anti-immigration sentiment, almost no lasting damage was done to relations between whites and non-white immigrants, which soon returned to the quite amicable state the two groups had previously enjoyed. Indeed, within a decade anti-immigrant sentiments had faded to insignificant levels even within the overwhelmingly white and conservative Republican rump party, let alone the heavily non-white Democrats. A few years ago, I discussed this fortunate political outcome at great length.

One important factor assisting this rapid ethnic reconciliation was my own successful 1998 campaign to dismantle the failed “bilingual education” system by ballot initiative. My measure required that all young children be taught English in the public schools, and it passed in a huge landslide despite being publicly opposed by nearly every established political element in the state and massively outspent on advertising. Although for obvious reasons, almost all immigrant families had always wanted their children taught English, many deeply suspicious whites had long remained unaware of this, instead fearing that Hispanics preferred Spanish-language schools. But once the huge media coverage surrounding the initiative drove home the true facts, many sources of tension between immigrants and the native-born faded away. I think the ultimate outcome for California society is best illustrated by an amusing AT&T radio advertisement that ran across the state a couple of years ago.

Since California had always been the center of America’s bilingual education movement, the elimination of those programs set them on the road to oblivion elsewhere as well, especially once the New York Times, the New Republic, and the rest of the mainstream media documented the tremendous success of these educational reforms and the strong support they attracted within the immigrant community.

For decades, those disastrous bilingual programs had greatly impacted the education of many millions of Hispanic students, looming very large on the national political stage, but their collapse and disappearance was so rapid and complete that I suspect few younger Americans today are even aware that they had ever existed. I’m also unsure whether the younger generation of immigrant Californians are more than vaguely aware of the ferocious political battles that roiled the state throughout the 1990s.

 

Since such a substantial fraction of America’s Hispanic and immigrant populations reside in California, their excellent relations with their fellow white and native-born Americans serves as a very positive model for the rest of the country. Trump had made immigration concerns a central element of his 2016 campaign, but that theme fell totally flat in America’s most heavily immigrant state, with white Californians supporting Trump at a rate 20-25 points lower than whites in the rest of the country. Indeed, if the entire white national electorate had voted like its Golden State counterpart, Trump would have lost all fifty states, mostly by huge landslides, suffering by far the greatest electoral disaster in American history. All the Trump-hating pundits would have spent Election Night laughing and saying “I told you so!”

These California sentiments hardly seem unique. Texas is our second largest state and has been following a demographic trajectory similar to that of California, with whites having fallen into minority status, soon to be passed by a rapidly growing Hispanic population. But although Texas is as strongly conservative as California is liberal, whites and Hispanics seem to get along just as well, and the enthusiastic support of the latter for O’Rourke against his Spanish-surnamed opponent hardly suggests any deep ethnic chauvinism. Florida, New York, and Illinois also contain very large concentrations of Hispanics and immigrants, who once again apparently enjoy quite good relations with their white neighbors. With such a large fraction of our immigrant population living in states displaying such negligible levels of nativist rancor, the likelihood that today’s immigration controversy at the national level will produce any long-lasting negative consequences seems very low to me.

Most observers would agree that for many years America’s highest-ranking political figure of fervent anti-immigration sentiments has been Jeff Sessions of Alabama, first as a senator and more recently as Trump’s Attorney-General. But few seem to have noted the oddity that Sessions has lived his entire life in a state containing just a sliver of immigrants or Hispanics, strongly suggesting that his entire knowledge of that complex subject comes from secondary sources, perhaps those having a sharp ideological bias. Would we really tend to trust the expertise of a political leader from lily-white Vermont when it came to sorting out the difficult black-white relations of a Deep South state such as Mississippi?

A few months ago someone pointed me to a lengthy piece in the Sunday New York Times by Richard Kahlenberg, a moderate liberal who has spent the last twenty years at the Century Foundation. Kahlenberg argued that bridging our country’s enormously deep ethnic and ideological divide desperately required a Robert Kennedy-type figure, who had demonstrated a remarkable unifying ability a half-century ago before his presidential campaign was tragically cut short by an assassin’s bullet. But although I liked the piece, I pointed out that California’s political situation was quite different, having absolutely no political divide that required any bridging. Our state’s politics had become extremely bland and boring, and I cited a good article describing the heated race for state Attorney General, in which the angry charges and counter-charges were so dull and perfunctory that one’s eyes would glaze over.

In the last couple of years, American society has been experiencing a long series of bizarre Chinese Cultural Revolution-style protests against long-honored figures of our past, now denounced as “racist symbols,” with buildings renamed and leftist mobs attacking public statues. Although monuments associated with the Confederacy have been the primary targets, these attacks have often extended outside the South and even former presidents such as Woodrow Wilson, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and William McKinley have sometimes become targets, along with the author of the Star-Spangled Banner and the founder of modern gynecology. As an extreme example, the losing black gubernatorial candidate in Georgia had called for the ISIS-like destruction of the gigantic Stone Mountain Memorial, a national monument featured on a 1970 U.S. postage stamp.

Ultra-liberal California has hardly been free of such copy-cat protests, with a handful of obscure memorials to Robert E. Lee or other Confederate figures targeted and removed, along with a statue or two honoring Christopher Columbus. In Palo Alto, a zealously-PC Swedish immigrant launched a successful campaign to rename two of Palo Alto’s middle schools because they honored top academic figures of a century ago known to have advocated eugenics, even though exactly similar charges could be leveled against most other prominent American intellectuals of that same era.

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But although California was seized from Mexico during a controversial 19th century war, there have been absolutely no reports of any protests aimed at the various statues and monuments honoring the leaders associated with that military action or the state’s subsequent American leadership. Ironically enough, several high-profile controversies have instead targeted symbols of California’s Mexican past, especially Father Junipero Serra, the recently-sainted founder of Spanish California. Denounced by leftists for his alleged cruelty to the Indians, Serra has had his name removed from various Stanford University buildings. Meanwhile, California’s numerous and prominent Hispanic officials would surely ridicule and condemn any such similar attacks against the state’s past Anglo-Saxon heritage.

In recent years, despondent white activists have sometimes bemoaned that America’s racial transformation has become irreversible and that our once overwhelmingly white country is inevitably headed for a Brazilian future, with the enormous crime, corruption, and political disorder that such a society entails. But I am very skeptical of these claims. Over the last half-century, California’s white European population has fallen from almost 85% of the total down to little more than 30%, far below that of Brazil, yet none of those terrible social ills seem anywhere to be found. Our ultra-liberal state legislature recently banned plastic straws for environmental reasons, but such nonsense seems more typical of Burlington, VT than the bloody favela politics of the Sao Paolo ghettos.

One widespread problem is that most of us draw our knowledge of the outside world from the media, and the picture of reality imparted by the conservative commentators of FoxNews is usually just as distorted and unrealistic as that of their liberal mainstream media counterparts. Back in January, the legislature established California as a “sanctuary state,” enacting various laws to shield illegal immigrants from threat of federal deportation. President Trump immediately denounced this policy in the strongest possible terms, warning that the horrifying levels of resulting immigrant crime would surely bring the state to its knees. But when a Hannity correspondent interviewed local Californians about that supposedly very controversial new policy, she was chagrined to discover that nearly all of them casually supported it.

More recently, the Sacramento Bee ran a rather amusing political cartoon that seems to correctly describe the divergence between actual life in California and how matters are portrayed on FoxNews.

Obviously, those ideologically committed to a different perspective will treat my claims with extreme skepticism. But they should carefully consider some supporting evidence.

Consider that blogger Steve Sailer is a California native who moved back to live in his hometown of Los Angeles around twenty years ago. While he was growing up, that city was among the whitest in America, but for the last couple of decades the population has been half Hispanic, with white Europeans probably constituting no more than 20% of the total. Racially- or ideologically-charged topics are his primary focus, especially those connected with politics. But although his posts regularly deal with all sorts of national controversies, in recent years he has only very rarely written anything about Los Angeles politics or California issues in general. Indeed, someone reading his blog over the last decade would have remained almost entirely unaware of the many hard-fought state and city election campaigns that had spent so many hundreds of millions dollars on advertising that blankets the airwaves all around his own home. The obvious reason for his remarkable silence is that nearly all those political candidates and campaigns were so bland and boring that there was almost never anything interesting to say about them. These days, Los Angeles is just not a very “exciting” city to live in or write about. By contrast, Brazil is an extremely “exciting” country, and if he were living there, his blog would surely be overwhelmed with local stories.

Oddly enough, both Los Angeles and California had experienced far more such negative “excitement” decades ago, when both were still overwhelmingly white. Although Southern California had widely been considered a true American paradise in the 1950s and early 1960s, several tumultuous decades soon followed, encompassing the Watts Riots, the two hundred or so racial Zebra killings in San Francisco and statewide, the Manson murders, the Black Panthers, the Symbionese Liberation Army, the extremely high urban crime rates from the 1980s onward, the LA Riots, and the bitter racial turmoil of the 1990s. Throughout most of the second half of the twentieth century, our state was notorious for its bizarre and often dangerous politics, with the 1978 killing of a San Francisco-area Congressman in the huge Jonestown Massacre followed just a week later by the assassination of the mayor of that same city at the hands of a conservative former supervisor. Yet as whites became a much smaller share of the population, all this turmoil and controversy seemed to fade away, a trend exactly contrary to what fearful white activists might have normally predicted.

Admittedly, many of the examples mentioned above, such as the deadly urban riots and the Zebra killings, were directly associated with the state’s black population. But California had always had by far the smallest black population of any large state, and that fraction has dropped by less than a percentage point in the last fifty years. So black demographic changes cannot be responsible. However, today 60% of the state population is neither black nor white, and perhaps this majority has had a salutary buffering effect on the local version of America’s eternal black-white racial conflict.

 

California still has very serious long-term problems far beyond the deadly wildfires currently ravaging portions of the state, but few of these seem related to bitter racial or ideological conflicts. Probably the leading concern is the extremely high cost of housing, and once these huge living expenses are properly considered, the state’s resulting poverty rate is among the worst in the country. The post-Cold War era of the early 1990s saw the disappearance of Southern California’s huge aerospace industry, which had traditionally been the largest source of well-paying middle class jobs, and although the current Tech Boom—or perhaps Tech Bubble—has created enormous wealth, nearly all of that has been concentrated within a sliver of the population, giving California one of America’s most unequal income distributions. Some of these poverty problems are being gradually alleviated by the 2015 enactment of a huge rise in the statewide Minimum Wage, which will reach $15 per hour by 2023, a political movement that I’m proud to have substantially fostered, but the impact is a gradual one.

It seems undeniable that most of these major California problems are closely connected to the doubling of the state’s population since the late 1960s, and nearly all of that huge increase was due to very heavy foreign immigration. Such rapid population growth naturally benefits Capital at the expense of Labor, so the resulting changes have both raised housing costs and lowered worker wages. There has also been a sharp reduction in the quality of life as more and more residents have been pushed out into the less desirable portions of the state, such as the smoggy Inland Empire of Riverside and San Bernardino counties, which often require horrific traffic commutes to Los Angeles area jobs. Even the recent spate of wildfires may not be entirely unconnected since suburban growth puts more areas at risk and state water problems have been exacerbated by increased consumption. But most of these same problems would have occurred if the many millions of newcomers had been white rather than Hispanic or Asian.

The affluent and extremely pleasant California lifestyle of the post-war era was widely recognized across America, and that magnetic lure produced the early stages of the state’s very rapid population growth. But more recently, the ill effects of congested traffic, terrible housing options, and stiff job competition at the lower end had greatly reduced state’s attractions. Growth has sharply fallen, though this is partly because continuing inflows of immigrants have been partially matched by a simultaneous outflow of existing residents.

Obviously, at some point a combination of severe overcrowding, unaffordable housing, and general worker impoverishment will sufficiently reduce the attractions of our society that the continuing inflow of immigrants will fall to merely a trickle. But this hardly seems the most desirable solution to our problems, whether in California or in other states moving along the same trajectory. Meanwhile, our deadlocked Congress has failed to enact any significant immigration legislation in 28 years, and the extremely rancorous relations between the Trump White House and newly Democratic House hardly suggest that anything will soon change. As a consequence, both Trump and Obama have been forced to issue Executive Orders of an extremely dubious legal nature, whether granting temporary protected status to illegal immigrant “Dreamers” or now promising to automatically reject all refugee claims along our Southern border. The gap between pro- and anti-immigration forces seems absolutely unbridgeable and likely to continue indefinitely, even though both sides remain extremely dissatisfied with the status quo.

However, as I argued a couple of years ago, the widespread belief that our immigration problems are insoluble is based on a very serious misunderstanding of the contending elements involved. Both the media and the political participants regard the conflict as being waged between two sides, but that is mistaken. There are actually three political factions: pro-immigrant Democrats, pro-immigration Republicans, and anti-immigration Republicans. All the unsuccessful Congressional efforts of the last couple of decades involved an alliance of the first two groups failing to overcome the opposition of the third, and with Trump having enormously increased the power of that last faction, there is no prospect for any change in that situation.

But careful consideration will reveal that the major goals of the first and third groups—pro-immigrant Democrats and anti-immigration Republicans—are actually not directly in conflict, and if they formed a political alliance, they could easily formulate legislation acceptable to both that might stand have an excellent chance of passing both houses of Congress and being signed into law by the President. Although I published my analysis of this solution several weeks before Trump’s upset 2016 victory, I think that it is just as correct and relevant today, and perhaps even more so given that November election results have produced a divided Congress, closing the door on other options.

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  1. Thomm says:

    . I demonstrated this important result almost a decade ago, and all the subsequent information has confirmed this finding.

    I would actually like to see updates of the 2010 data. Has the change in Hispanic demographics (more gender balance, and a greater portion of adults who are US-born) truly followed the low-crime trajectory predicted?

    While this was a prediction in 2010, as of 2018 the data to draw a conclusion on the prediction should be out.

    Can you provide more color on what the results actually are?

  2. Anon[268] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Ron, could you recommend 10 books which in your opinion are must reads?

  3. Tbbh says:

    Plenty of “kumbaya” and “we’re getting along great in cali”, and no mention of just how insolvent cali has become for a number of purely political and immigration-related reasons…not as deep in red as NY, but well up near the top of the list.

    Continually losing middle and upperclass that have moved out of state because of taxes and cost of living, and replacing them with unskilled third worlders, who tend to use a LOT of benefits they never paid into, has definitely not helped.

    • Replies: @Tom Verso
  4. Thomm says:

    It is quite simple :

    i) Halt all illegal immigration and expel the illegals already here.
    ii) Halt all unskilled legal immigration.
    iii) Substantially increase skilled immigration.

    As President Coolidge said almost a century ago : “The Business of America is Business”.

  5. FKA Max says: • Website

    Yet as whites became a much smaller share of the population, all this turmoil and controversy seemed to fade away, a trend exactly opposite to what fearful white activists might have normally predicted.
    [...]
    However, today 60% of the state population is neither black nor white, and perhaps this majority has had a salutary buffering effect on the local version of America’s eternal black-white racial conflict.

    I think we can mostly thank technology for the falling crime rates.

    We’re safer than ever before, and it’s all thanks to technology

    Dramatic reductions in crime rates over the last 20 years aren’t down to policy reforms – they’re because technology has made it harder to commit crimes

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/technology-fuels-crime-decline

    E.g.

    Source: http://www.unz.com/isteve/ian-holmes-what-happens-when-geneticists-talk-sloppily-about-race/#comment-2305492 and https://quartzy.qz.com/1133840/charles-manson-death-the-serial-killer-inspired-pop-cultures-view-of-crime/

    Police tracked down “Golden State Killer” suspect by matching DNA from public database

  6. llloyd says: • Website

    In 1860, the New Zealand newspapers reported the erronious national census that the white population was higher than the Maori population. That generated a lot of crowing by white settler opinion makers that New Zealand would now become a lilly white English colony and the Maoris if not die out would become suitably assimilated. That circulated into the Maori villages. Almost over night, the racial environment reversed. Suddenly Maoris attacked and murdered dozens of whites who had been their good term neighbours. But a few years later, about half the Maori population were fighting on the British army side against an ISIS type Maori enemy. The alternative to being a minority was a great deal worse. This history would be regelated to dusty old books but self hating whites picked up on it as sjws before the term was invented. It also became a back door for privatisation of national resources. However despite enormous publicity on racial issues, most whites and Maoris get on well with each other and have mutual goals. Racial intermarriage is very high.

    • Replies: @mr meener
    , @BB753
  7. Sorry Ron this is your worst essay ever. I have no idea where you get your data but it’s wrong but you should look it up yourself.

    *Hispanic crime is high in many parts of the nation. I live in an area where they are heavily involved in drugs, gang violence, breaking into homes and also murder.
    *Hispanic statistics aren’t accurate because in many areas they are classified as white, and in some instances they are classified as black according to the police I have talked to.
    *Hispanics in many states are draining the welfare and social services to death.
    *Hispanics in my town are destroying the local emergency room and the costs are passed on to the rest of us.
    *When they are arrested they have fake IDs and seldom show up in court.
    *They are destroying the rent where I live because they make everything section 8 and similar projects and the lowlife landlords can get more money than a normal rent because the government will pay more. They put 12 or more Hispanics in these places which should be illegal but no one does anything about it.
    *I believe California is number one in welfare much of it in the agricultural areas. We all pay for those vegetables.
    *According to a report by the New Century Foundation “greater than 50% of Hispanics receive some form of welfare. Hispanics are 3.3 times more likely to be in prison than whites; they are 4.2
    times more likely to be in prison for murder, and 5.8 times more likely to be in prison
    for felony drug crimes. Young Hispanics are 19 times more likely than young whites (and slightly more likely than young blacks) to be in youth gangs. At 43 percent, the Hispanic illegitimacy rate is twice the white rate, and Hispanic women have abortions at 2.7 times the white rate.”
    *One other point on crime rates..it’s still more crime and it adds to the overall problem.

    Basically the middle class is being destroyed by the Blacks and Hispanic populations in this country in every conceivable way. FAIR has calculated that illegal immigration alone costs us 100 billion dollars per year. Much of their money they earn is cash and is not taxed…casual labor they call it where I live. Furthermore, they send at least half of it back to Mexico, and Middle America. This is not taxed and it’s not put back into the US economy. I’ve lived with them for over 35 years and they have become a social cancer on the communities.

    I believe your idea that they can coexist with whites long term ignores the fact many don’t and won’t assimilate. They want their Mexico right here in America. I’ve talked to teachers and they tell me in many areas they are destroying the school system. They won’t learn English, refuse to work, and the schools have become so degraded that no one can learn.

    They want to take over America just like the Blacks. They have a better plan. This hatred has been ramped up in recent years due to social media and the Communist and Bolshevik Democrats who hate white people and Western Civilization. We are doomed because too many white people who know nothing about history have some type of guilt complex. These are the people who in live in gated communities and do not live with the Hispanics or Blacks. Just like the Black athletes who make millions and choose to live where: With White Folks. It’s like Meathead, Rob Reiner the crazy Jew from All in the Family. He calls all whites racist who don’t want open borders and lives in Malibu (now burning maybe there is a God) which is about 97% white. Everyone knows the entire immigration game is being run by Jews.

    I’ve said enough and I will leave you with this. A couple of months ago I was at Walmart. A brand new super loaded gigantic pickup truck pulls in next to me. A Hispanic male and female get out. The truck with all the stuff including mag wheels had to cost over $50,000. An old farmer pulled on the other side of me and just stared at the Hispanic male. Somehow both me and the farmer ended up in the check out lane behind them. The checkout lady bags their stuff and the girl pulls out a food stamp card or whatever it’s called to pay for the groceries. I looked at the farmer and I thought his neck and head were going to explode.

    You may think this is alright on how the system is being raped but some of us think otherwise.

  8. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:

    rapid ethnic reconciliation

    Reminds me of the South African “Rainbow Nation” (((narrative))) in the 90s. Look at them now.

    • Replies: @Sic Semper
  9. I want to have your optimism and it is in my interest to have it at my age and were I live but I the skepticism in me makes me think the other side is probably right. I think your article about the “Coming Age of White Nationalism” is probably a more accurate reality.

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  10. Some good points, but as with many US commentators, you fail to take account of the global situation. Trump’s election is part of a global nationalist/populist shift that started in 2016. This shifts has its roots in the demise of neoliberalism (which ruled western politics from 1980 to 2008). In Europe this shift has already resulted in a sharp cut back in legal immigration into Europe and a number of power sharing arrangements between populist and centre-right parties that would have been considered unthinkable a decade ago.

    How this populist/nationalist shift will eventually play out in the US, Canada and Australia is hard to guess. It’s like trying to guess how neoliberalism will play out by looking at the policies of Thatcher and Reagan in 1981. At the moment Trump is trying to copy the immigration approach of Australia with his tough stance on illegals and a relatively liberal stance on legal immigration. However, subsequent administrations may do things differently. For example, if the Dems get taken over by brown socialist hotheads their donors may shift to the Republicans, and the Dems won’t be able to mobilise apathetic blacks and Hispanic voters if they don’t have lots of campaign money around.

    Every new age of liberal democracy has surprising twists and turns and you can’t predict how a political party will act based on past behaviour.

  11. SafeNow says:

    I am a long-time California resident. I agree with Mr. Unz that the demographic influx has not turned California into a society of Brazilian crime, violence, and corruption. However, I would argue in detail that there has occurred a shift from an ethos of “proficient, conscientious, fastidious” to a philosophy of “get it basically right.” This is a culture-driven phenomenon; Burgos of Harvard has written: “We wanted workers, but we got people.” I used to think California is a generation ahead of the rest of the country in our ineptness and aggressive apathy, but I was wrong; the timeline is shorter than that. And, I perceive that this shift is contagious; it is being adopted beyond the culture that initiated it. This is just as problematic as the Brazil model.

  12. Wally says:

    You’re using a strawman, Ron.

    Most Americans support curtailing just about all of your ‘legal immigration’.

    So called ‘legal immigration’ to the US strains all norms worldwide.

    • Replies: @Wade
  13. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    I live in a majority Hispanic city in California, and there is very little crime I am exposed to. I don’t fear Hispanics and they treat me quite well. So I believe your articles on this matter.

    But one consequence that you haven’t mentioned is how socialist these Hispanics are. What do you think will happen when they take over California and Texas and then the nation? It will be more socialism and income distribution and then the decline of our nation.

    Based on this entirely reasonable progression, I am opposed to more Immigration of any kind, but especially Hispanic immigration because I see how their societies are.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  14. As far as we in the rest of the world are concerned, Americans can vote for a rusted boiler or a broken umbrella stand for all the difference it would make in how their country (mis)behaves abroad.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  15. Around 1900 Houston Chamberlain, the brother of the despised 1938 British politician, publicised
    Houston Stewart Chamberlain, ‘Die Grundlagen des Neunzehnten Jahrhunderts’, 1898- 1907, München
    I suppose I’m the only idiot in the world who reads about a hundred years old books, Houston needed two volumes.
    His problem at the time was how to explain European success in the world, a world almost completely controlled by Europeans, at the time the USA was european.
    If Houston invented the word race, I do not know, but his explanation of the world domination by European cultures was that these Europeans were a better race.
    Houston admits in no uncertain words that he could not define race, but ‘as with dogs, one immediately recognises the better race’.
    In my view, Houston explained nothing.

    Felipe Fernández-Armesto, ‘Civilisations’, London, 2000 also tries to explain European supremacy.
    He does not need the hazy concept of race, he explains this supremacy from the direction the earth rotates, the, what he calls ‘grass highway’ from NE Siberia to the Flemish coast, and the unique North Sea.

    Now, if races exist or not, it cannot be denied that European culture, science, technology, democracy, is superior in the world, though this may be changing, Russia (European in fact) and China may be overtaking us.
    Racist policies, in my opinion, no more than trying to keep the culture that brought the world prosperity, alas also the nuclear bombs.
    That groups with lower intelligence hate us, understandable, in my opinion.
    But the stupidiest thing we can do is let these groups destroy us.
    Not just for us, but for the world, slaughtering the chicken with the golden eggs.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @anon
  16. First, before I start arguing over it, that was a very well-written article covering as many aspects on California and immigration policy/politics and possible – it’s just that in the 10 – 15 minutes it took me to read it, there have probably been a few dozen comments written already (that I can’t read yet).

    Now to the arguments: First, regarding President Trump, I’m not sure why you are under the impression that he only made an issue out of the illegal immigration (you bring up the 14th Amendment issue yourself after that, not just an illegal immigration issue). I believe Mr. Trump indeed brought up egregious examples of crime by illegals* to get people riled up about the issue. That DOES NOT MEAN that the takeover of much of California by illegal Hispanics is NOT a serious issue. Politicians often do these types of things, but that doesn’t mean the basic problems are not real; the situation is far from that. I think Mr. Trump is no numbers/details guy, and was probably unaware of the sheer numbers involved in legal immigration of various sorts.

    You neglected to mention, that, whatever the actual court-determined facts in the Steinle murder case, the guy had been deported from America MULTIPLE times already and was a felon. There are many Hispanic drunk drivers that have killed innocent Americans for which one could say the same. I think a serious border barrier (again Trump says “wall” for effect, or he really doesn’t know that there’s no reason it has to be anything more costly than your average interstate highway) would have prevented many crimes that committed by aliens that are under a different legal regime. An illegal can just bail out, after a crime in which an American would have been locked up. Jose can just come back next year as Hose-B, and start a new life. What a deal! I wish I had that option!

    Plenty of Americans know full well, now that the issue has been forcibly brought up, that legal immigration IS just as large a problem as illegal. I agree with you that the President has not gotten very much done on this most important of his campaign promises, but I won’t get into the argument here of whether he won’t or can’t.

    * BTW, thank you for using normal, and un-PC terminology throughout your article, too.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @mr meener
    , @MEH 0910
    , @surly
  17. Mike-SMO says:

    It may be worth acknowledging that President Trump entered the White House without a party and with a government n which the executive agencies have been contaminated by two terms of President Obama and his fellow “corruptocrats”. President Trump has had to assemble an army of followers from scratch. Note that significant portions of the GOP are either Ultra “Never Trump”, are “Establishment” collaborators with the Progressives (Open borders mean cheap labor and the possibility of destroying what is left of the union movement), or are “mush” who have never conceived of a fight for anything.

    The Kavanaugh confirmation was a training run againstr the progressive Democrats. The Democrats brought out their Big Guns against a moderate judge who was a very competent “Boy Scout”. They don’t have much more to bring against a hard-core ideological nomination, but the generic Republicans got to taste the sense of battle.

    The mid-term election gave the “moderate”, conservative Democrats a chance to fight for control of their party against the progressives and corruptocrats. They failed. The Republicans retained control of the Senate and thus, up-coming appointments to the judiciary and to the Executive branch. The loss of the House was a minor and expected event since the rogressives have a significant portion of the population and have been Gerrymandering for decades. The House progressives will, I am sure, put on a fabulous clown-show.

    President Trump has marked the “Establishment” [both Progressive and Republican] as the enemy center President Trump can’t really act aggressively until he has assembled a solid backing of his own. The actual accomplishments of the Trump Administration are relatively minor but generally show reasonable “solutions” for those not yet committed to cooperation, rather than attacks against an “opposition”.

    Renegotiated trade agreements allow manufacturers to adjust to opportunities rather than threats. “Man-made Climate Change” is a ploy from Gorbechev & Gore to disrupt American and Western economies. Walking away from a ridiculous Climate “deal” allows US business and labor to adapt to new technology. Prosperity, even if the immediate profits go to the anti-Trump factions, are beneficial to workers and the economy without having to resort to the “battle axe”(taxation, intrusive regulations). This is maneuver warfare.

    It is worth noting that the Trump “Deplorables” were a significant chunk of the Democratic Party of FDR. The corruptocrat urban machines are probably a lost cause, but “#Walkaway” and “#Blexit” have had some success. Everyone can prosper in a prosperous economy. The President has been careful to avoid the “Identity” scam of the progressives. Making the Identity scam irrelevant is more productive than directly attacking that progressive hobby horse. Prosperity trumps dependency.

    I have no idea what President Trump’s plans are, but I am sensing seismic movements in our nation’s power structure that may counter, or co-opt, long term degenerative changes. That New York bastard is up to something. I am laying in a stock of pop-corn, butter and Tequilla. This will not be another Hoolywood farce where the problem is laid out, the battle engaged, and the solution comes to completion in an hour minus commercials.

  18. So if I can summarize the gist, would it be correct to put it like this:

    …Whites in California have grudgingly conceded “leadership” role mostly to the browns (Indians) and some yellows (mostly Chinese) who, due to their immense clannishness and ethnic “solidarity” (read nepotism) will make sure that it stays that way.

    These new Americans may even want to flaunt that this is a “superior” model to the one in, say Idaho and we must welcome these high IQ (much debatable for the conniving desis), “high caste” folks with open arms (and in the case of white women, with open legs as well). If you as a white man is A-ok with being cucked in the very country your forefathers tamed then you are a worthless parasite IMHO, a drain on the rest of us who are trying to reverse this tide. I’m sure when the US goes belly up (and it just might, sooner than you think), your beloved coloreds will take care of traitors like you first (no one likes a snitch).

    Most of us patriots here were never imperialistic to begin with. No invasions on behalf of the tribe and definitely no invitations. But if push comes to shove, we won’t be sitting around bean counting. The only silver lining about this is that very soon it would become clear to most whites that elections are a sham and cannot be counted on to preserve the European core of this country.

    Some folks are OK with that, even thinking about it as one big rainbow colored party. Betcha don’t know what it is like to be a racial/ethnic/religious minority in the third world (and make no mistake, the US will soon become that, with us as the minority). By the time you do, it’ll be too late. I’d rather go down with a bang than wither slowly like some barnyard chaff.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  19. Now, about California, Ron. I see you admit that just the numbers problem, with ethnicity disregarded for the moment, is ruining the state of California. I know, you figure that it’d be the same whether these immigrants to the former paradise they called the Golden State were white people or Hispanics. Well, let’s think about that.

    It could happen if they were Socialist immigrants FROM another state (unfortunately other states get Californian Socialist immigrants TO their states!), but almost all the relatively fewer white immigrants from the rest of the world into California are NOT the ones that clog up the emergency rooms for free service to the point of closing down hospitals. Bilingual education not-withstanding*, they are NOT the ones that require remedial classes and loads of extra money from the taxpayers in elementary school. They are not the ones insisting on in-state tuition in college when a life-long Oregonian has to pay full. They are NOT the ones that use fake IDs to get tax credits for their non-existent or Mexican-residing (or both!) from the IRS what paying in zero. They are NOT the ones waving their own countries’ flags at the soccer games, a slightly different problem.

    The destruction, especially environmental (see “Toward Sustainable Stupidity” ) of California is not just a matter of the raw numbers. See, Ron, most Americans don’t want to live in Latin America. Ex-patriates, cough, Fred Reed, cough, cough, can live their idyllic lives down there on the American dollar, as long as that lasts, and their are indeed other draws for Americans. However, almost all of us don’t. You can tell that by the lack of emigration on a large scale to that part of the world. We don’t want the US to BECOME Latin America. I’m not sure if that is something you understand or not.

    This bring up the white Californians whom you say are just peachy with the way things are going in that one-party state. I’ve gotta continue that thought, though, in another comment.

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    * I very much admire your work on this issue back in the 90′s(?), Mr. Unz. However, the push for instruction in Spanish has come back, as you should already know. Do you think a majority of new Hispanics in California will join with you, or the next guy, to fight this issue again when all of the speak Spanish all over the neighborhood, at work, and in traffic court (for DUI)? It’s over with the English language when it’s not needed anymore. Who in his right mind wants to learn an unnecessary new language, especially when one is not part of the best and the brightest (even of Latin America)!?

    • Replies: @mark green
    , @animalogic
  20. Frank T says:

    Technical point: the funny advertisement cannot be played. It refers to a file on unzmag.com, which can only be accessed when you have a password.

  21. Now, regarding the politics of your admittedly one-party state, you maintain that the white voters are on-board with the Hispanicizing of California. I do wonder who exactly were Hannity’s interviewees that just LUVED, LUVED, LUVED the sanctuary city policy. There is no doubt a large ctrl-lef contingent remnant of white 1960′s-style pro-destruction-of-traditional-America types, your Governor among them, that inhabit the Bay Area in particular, who have no problem with illegal immigration. It does help destroy things. I bet there is a larger contingent of whites that are trying unsuccessfully to remain middle-class, that are seething over what’s going on, and moving to places in Texas or the deep South, to get a good value for that one remaining plus, the value of their crap-box California house.

    You seem OK with the Democrat Uni-party politics there. If one is a Socialist, looking forward to the next successful implementation of Socialism/Communism, then, sure, by all means, it’s just great. $15 min-wage attempt at screwing with the market even more is not gonna get California out of its slide into 3rd-worldliness. It’s not just the state of the crowd you brought in, but the politics that this crowd brought in with them, that will ensure that a real disposable-income-holding, association-forming, trust-building, power-holding, can-do middle class will never be seen again in your state.

    Let me get this straight. Instead of continuing the (admittedly probably lost by this point) fight against the replacement of their native people, American politicians should just pander for the Hispanic vote to go-along to get-along? Had Pete Wilson’s policies been upheld in the courts, and the draw of illegal immigration been greatly reduced due to no ability to go to school, no welfare support, and no “free” healthcare on the taxpayers, your state could very likely have still been a great place to live and a still a part of America. It was not too late at that point.

    California’s problems are mostly from illegal immigration and the 14th Amendment* loophole. That’s not the case for most of the nation, where both illegal and legal are equally a problem. That brings me back full circle (I think, as the comments haven’t been “released” yet). Yes, legal immigration is indeed just as much of a problem, and it could be not solved, as the gates have been open too long, but highly curtailed via legislation and a serious implementation by a non-traitorous government. The only chance for that seemed to be Donald Trump, didn’t it Ron?

    .

    * I’m deferring to Ann Coulter on this one – yes, though she seemed a pro-GOP neocon 2 decades back, I have not read but one opinion from her that I don’t completely agree with.

    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @Meimou
  22. Finally, I want to say that I don’t think you understand how assimilation works, Mr. Unz. You bring up good relations between Hispanics and Whites in Texas. Yeah, there have been Hispanic families in Texas from back near the time of the Republic. They may be brown colored and still talk a bit differently (on purpose, if at all), but they are as American as apple pie.

    You bring millions at a time into each region and it doesn’t work like that. I don’t blame the immigrants much on this, either. If I were in an ex-patriate community in Argentina, say, and the town was crawling with my American homies, I’d feel much more comfortable with them, and not feel a need to learn much Spanish, etc. The now-huge Chinese contingent of immigrants, both legal and illegal, is another example. I do not live in California, but in my state there are areas where, due to numbers, the Chinese people eat with each other, hang with each other, and make their kids learn Chinese outside the home. Why?

    Go to one of the 3 (maybe it’s 5 now) Chinatowns in NYC, and see if you can tell you aren’t in China, if you just don’t look at the make/model of the vehicles on the dirty/crowded streets. You WOULD NOT KNOW OTHERWISE! Yet, a few decades back, the only Chinese people I knew were from Taiwan (not a factor, just that mainland Chinese did not come back then). These people, other than their skin, facial features and oftentimes more-mellow personalities, were as American as as the next folks. I know Vietnamese families that I could say the same for (except for the mellowness part – the boys were as redneck as we come, but very intelligent).

    Assimilation only works with small relative numbers. There will be only one kind of assimilation in California – that will be assimilation of the remaining few white people into the 3rd-world Hispanic semi-shithole that’ll be left after the white-built economic momentum has been dissipated.

  23. California is Brazil in waiting. Perhaps life in most of California is still great for many & in many areas. But, inevitably, with so many different segments of population having so little in common, with diverging group interests & with growing 3rd world dependency & resentment- future is predictable.

    When money runs out, LA will be a hellhole like Rio de Janeiro.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  24. “white Californians supporting for Trump at a rate 20-25 points lower than whites in the rest of the country”

    Perhaps it’s not that they don’t support him, rather they see no point in voting in an effective one party state.

    I don’t have turnout figures for state on hand, but this map would suggest California has one of the highest abstention rates in the nation…

    https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/11/voter-turnout-midterm-election-statistics-map/574939/

  25. More than 47 percent–highest since 1966– of the voting-eligible population cast a ballot in the midterm elections on Tuesday, according to early estimates from the United States Election Project.

    Blue Wave or not, that was an impressive total. Now if we could only count the vote, quickly and with complete accuracy.
    The eventual goals should be to rid the rigging of races through gerrymandering, register anyone who is eligible, and may the best candidate win. Is that likely to happen in my lifetime? Possibly, but it isn’t right around the corner that’s for sure.

  26. Ron,

    There are important takeaways from your article and parallels with the UK in large immigration flows from Eastern Europe after the 2004 enlargement of the EU. Here there is analgous situation. The immigrants were virtually all white. Most came from countries with strong Christian traditions either Catholic or Orthodox and finally most are hard-working and not welfare dependent. Yet still the flows caused resentments which played a part in the Brexit vote. Why ?

    First the volume of migrants and the speed with which demographic transformations take place absolutely matters critically for absorption purposes. Many smaller towns in Eastern England relatively unused to large immigrant communities underwent very extensive demographic transitions. Suddenly relatively sleepy places suddenly had schools and GP surgeries filling up with people who did not have English as their first language of communication. Inevitably that breeds resentment as services (such as special needs help in schools) are oriented to meeting the needs of the new-comers as well as difficulties in locals just getting doctors’ appointments.

    Secondly the new wave of migrants provide alot of competition for manual or lower skilled jobs. In some of these areas such as fruit picking etc, maybe the locals were not interested to do them but soon of course migrants migrate to a bit better paid work and compete with and undercut locals in other trades such as plumbing, house conversions. Much is made of the 50,000 EU nurse and doctors in the NHS but I suspect most of the 40,000 Uber drivers in London are migrants. At the same time the UK has like the US suffered a massive loss of traditional reasonably well paid and ‘safe’ jobs in manufacturing (example the closure of the massive Redcar Iron and Steel works in 2016) so this squeezes the existing working class and also begins to have an impact on the lower white middle class working in areas such as banking which are already under pressure from new technology and outsourcing.

    Third is what economists call the benefit incidence ratio. In the UK at least where 90% of workers get a working tax credit, most migrants will receive that benefit and since they come with their families other welfare benefit plus free school and health care. California is probably less generous (and we know many illegals may actually contribute to social security through using SS numbers that are not their own). Still for many working class whites who have proudly never claimed welfare, this is a huge issue.

    Finally we cannot minimize the huge part the media and the identity politics of the Democrats and Labour Lib Dems and Greens here in the UK) have played in castigating opposition to mass immigration or the expression of genuine concerns as racist. I and I am sure many others, feel the Grenfield Tower fire tragedy would not have engendered anywhere near the same blanket media coverage if the victims had been largely white ‘van man’ and his kith and kin in one of the other 50 English councils that had used the same cladding in its housing blocks.

    In the medium term the Eastern Europeam migrants will assimilate easily enough just like their forefathers who came after WW2. The problem is those from other parts of the world whose flows were and remain greater than those from Europe.

    • Replies: @Bill
    , @Christo
  27. Ploskina says: • Website

    What do you make of the idea that racial crime statistics are skewed because many Hispanic criminals are reported as white or white Hispanic? I’ve seen some compelling evidence for this, mugshots of people who are claim to be white who are clearly of South American ancestry.

    In any case, I think if we’re going to end up like Brazil, it will happen after the demographic shift gives federal government inexorably to the Democrats, and the Welfare/Warfare state will achieve geometric growth at a level beyond even where it is now.

    Eventually, either the Petro dollar will collapse, or the system will just crumble underneath its own weight and complexity and corruption. Until then, things will be relatively peaceful until the ruling class can’t pump out the bread and circuses fast enough.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Autochthon
  28. Zardoz says:

    Relations might seem fine now, but remember that this isn’t the end game to their plan, the radical left’s social policies are only now starting to develop at a faster pace, as the untouchable corporate masters and their street goons achieve near total power. State mandated satanic tranny kids story hour coming soon to a library near you. The hispanics are only their tools to divide and conquer the populace, as both whites, hispanics, blacks, and everyone else come under their thumb.
    The fact that the original white inhabitants are mass exiting the state counters any idea of real good relations at any rate… white flight away to the rest of the flock. At least we birds can still take flight, not quite as easy prey as the dodo they wish us to be.

  29. Jake says:

    “These surprisingly strong showings by the two black Democrats came despite the considerable personal baggage carried by each of them, with the Florida candidate under possible investigation in a local corruption scandal and the one in Georgia owing over $50,000 in unpaid federal income taxes. ”

    The average black voter not only does not hold any type corruption against a black or overtly anti-white white candidate, bur often seems to prefer it, perhaps as proof of willingness to get things done.

    The new white Left is equally amoral. It too will bed with anything that shows it wishes to stick it to deplorable whites.

  30. Svigor says:

    For his first two years in office, he sunk nearly all his political capital into enacting huge tax cuts for the rich

    Actually it was a tax increase for a lot of wealthy blue-staters, who can no longer deduct state taxes (high in blue states) on their federal tax returns.

    With Republicans in full control of Congress, finding excuses for this widespread betrayal was quite difficult, but now that the Democrats have taken the House, Trump’s apologists can more easily shift the blame over to them.

    Difficult for you, maybe. I never had any illusions about your basic bitch Republican, which is quite a common animal in Congress. Never mind open traitors like Flake and McInsane.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Bill
  31. Svigor says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    What article are you referring to?

    • Replies: @Anarcho-Supremacist
  32. Svigor says:

    Achmed, Unz’ whole “Hispanic crime is because spics skew young” is like Jews’ “Jews skew shitlib because Jews are urban” thing; an “excuse” that sounds like dividing by 1.

    Really don’t give a fuck how the leopard got his spots…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  33. Z-man says:

    Couldn’t read the whole thing, too long. However I read that you are a silicon millionaire which means this site should be around for a while and that’s a good thing. (Wry grin)

    However, although Trump had reached the presidency by advocating a radical populist-nationalist agenda, he has hardly governed in those terms. For his first two years in office, he sunk nearly all his political capital into enacting huge tax cuts for the rich, wholesale Wall Street deregulation, large increases in military spending, and an extremely pro-Israel foreign policy—exactly the sort of policies near-and-dear to the establishment conservative candidates whom he had crushed in the Republican primaries. Meanwhile, his jilted grassroots supporters have had to settle for some radical rhetoric and a regular barrage of outrageous Tweets rather than anything more substantive. With Republicans in full control of Congress, finding excuses for this widespread betrayal was quite difficult, but now that the Democrats have taken the House, Trump’s apologists can more easily shift the blame over to them.

    Yes it’s been a disappointment but he’s still better than any other whor.. I mean politician in America. With regard to Israel he really hasn’t done much more than Obama would have been forced to do by the Cabal. Jerusalem is still open to final status, whatever that means. Our foreign policy is bi partisan-ly hijacked by Zionists. The tax cuts for the rich hurts as it’s a total reversal from his campaign but maybe he’ll get some Demokrat support if he targets a middle class tax cut with raising the top level to where it was before the Republitard tax cuts of last year. I’ll give him another 14 months to straighten things out, if not I’ll be looking for a National Socialist candidate or ask Putin to take over.

  34. California’s main problem at moment is the fact is ground zero for the enactment of Agenda 21/2030.

  35. wayfarer says:

    “Rather go to bed with out dinner than to rise in debt.”
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

    U.S. National Debt Clock
    source: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    Which State has the Highest State and Local Debt?
    source: https://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/compare_state_debt

    State of California Debt Clock
    source :http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html

  36. Sean says:

    https://www.theday.com/storyimage/NL/20150706/NWS13/150709550/AR/0/AR-150709550.jpg&Maxw=960&q=75


    Impossible to prove intent, but one is entitled to draw an inference about what probably happened.
    Anyway Ron Unz is right about immigrants, but wrong to think their children, and children’s children will be like people brought up in Hispanic culture. Immigrants have been brought up in a very non-permissive culture. Their children haven’t, and show downward assimilation in everything: educational occupational, health, SES, and crime outcomes. Hispanics get progressively worse with every generation in the US.

    https://www.economist.com/special-report/2015/03/12/from-minor-to-major

    PREVIOUS immigrant groups typically saw progress with each passing generation, but Hispanic numbers have a habit of stalling or even heading backwards. American-born children of Hispanic immigrants tend to be less healthy than their parents*, have higher divorce rates and go to jail more often. Jump from migrants’ children to their grandchildren, and studies have shown academic results slipping in the third generation. Conservatives fret about “downward assimilation” [...] Steve Murdock of Rice University, a former boss of the US Census bureau, recently published a paper warning Texans that Hispanics are not getting enough advanced degrees and qualifications to replace highly educated whites retiring from their state’s workforce. By 2050, his study predicts, Hispanic workers will outnumber white ones in Texas by almost three to one, but without a change in education policy the state will be poorer and less competitive.

    Only a person who thinks culture is unimportant can make the mistake of thinking genes don’t matter.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-dont-worry-immigrants-arent-causing-the-swedish-crime-wave-its-their-sons-grandsons/

    Freedom is not free. If you have more inherent hereditary self control (guilt) you can live in a permissive culture and willingly not do the bad stuff because the priest and the cop are inside your genes. With a population of such people the culture sits lightly and allows all sorts of innovation and creativity. Hence the West.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  37. “Automatic U.S. citizenship for all children born here, regardless of the legal status of their parents, has been settled constitutional law for well over a century, and nearly all legal experts have held that it was guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment, as later confirmed by a 19th century Supreme Court ruling. In the last decade or two ….”

    Sorry, but I can’t let you brush that aside, like so many do with climate change, by saying the issue is settled. A few, very distinguishable cases are settled law, but the broader issue is not settled law, and it does not help the discussion to accept the status quo without examining how we arrived at it. One of the earliest post 14th Amendmend cases, Wong Kim Ark, dealt with a child of immigrant parents who were subject to the [complete] jurisdiction of the United States, while your garden variety illegal or birth tourist is not subject to the [complete] jurisdiction of the United States, and therefore not covered by the 14th Amendment.

    Birthright citizenship as we now know it arises roughly from the 1960s forward and is a creature of the bureaucratic state, which means it is very much within the purview of the President to remedy or clarify by Executive Order. With regard to those who have attained birthright citizenship thus far and essentially by mistake, the principles of equity would not allow it to be stripped, but there is no reason for birthright citizenship to now be an acquired right for anyone else coming to America without invitation to become subject to its complete jurisdiction, i.e. legal immigrants.

  38. mr meener says:
    @llloyd

    that is paradise that you mentioned where whites will be breeded out of existence. isn’t race mixing great?

  39. @Bardon Kaldian

    California is Brasil, but this is not seen by the folks who don’t take the off-ramp to take a gander at the giant tent cities in places like along the Santa Ana River or Slab City.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  40. mr meener says:
    @Thomm

    yes it is much better for whites to disappear forever as long if it is done by “legal” immigrants which will bring 100 million paki and indian snake charmers here

    • Replies: @TRASH(NOT)
    , @Lurker
  41. Yeah, like that rabbit in the battery commercial, Newman keeps going, and going…

    Sorry, but I remembered another point regarding the modern-day All-American version of the Cultural Revolution, as you rightly describe it:

    Ultra-liberal California has hardly been free of such copy-cat protests, with a handful of obscure memorials to Robert E. Lee or other Confederate figures targeted and removed, along with a statue or two honoring Christopher Columbus. In Palo Alto, a zealously-PC Swedish immigrant launched a successful campaign to rename two of Palo Alto’s middle schools because they honored top academic figures of a century ago known to have advocated eugenics, even though exactly similar charges could be leveled against most other prominent American intellectuals of that same era.

    I’ve read about some of this from Steve Sailer, who does cover controversy in California, just not the politician-level politics. Why doesn’t Steve cover many election goings-on? Oh, yeah, that’s right, because it’s a 1-party state and your votes don’t mean much unless you’ve got goodies coming, and it’s about your tribe’s goodies vs. that other tribe’s goodies. Why should a net taxpayer give a damn – they’re going to spend his money hard-out one way or another, and if he’s white, he’s gonna be on the hook to support other lives, other family’s and other family’s babies and child-rearing. Socialism is a scam, Ron, and in California, the White people in California are on the wrong end of that scam.

    But although California was seized from Mexico during a controversial 19th century war, there have been absolutely no reports of any protests aimed at the various statues and monuments honoring the leaders associated with that military action or the state’s subsequent American leadership. Ironically enough, several high-profile controversies have instead targeted symbols of California’s Mexican past, especially Father Junipero Serra, the recently-sainted founder of Spanish California. Denounced by leftists for his alleged cruelty to the Indians, Serra has had his name removed from various Stanford University buildings. Meanwhile, California’s numerous and prominent Hispanic officials would surely ridicule and condemn any such similar attacks against the state’s past Anglo-Saxon heritage.. [my bold]

    Firstly, there have been no protests, because most of the immigrants have no earthly idea about that history (same for most Americans, to be honest). It’ll change when some Hispanic “leader” wants to make a point to become a big-shot with his constituents. Yeah, and haha to that bold part. They just haven’t gotten quite big enough of a majority yet. It’s not the average working man who cares to destroy history, by any means, but it never is. Your Hispanic leaders will have no regard for any white Anglo-Saxon heritage. The statues, monuments and names will all be taken down/forgotten.

    You are living on borrowed time over there, Mr. Unz.

    • Replies: @James Scott
  42. mr meener says:
    @niteranger

    beautiful post and all you said is true. remember Unz is a jew and his DNA overrides his sometimes good sense

    • Troll: mark green
    • Replies: @TRASH(NOT)
  43. mr meener says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I am sick of hearing latrinos crime rate is the same as US citizens. say we have 10 million US criminals here SO WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NEED 10 MILLION MORE CRIMINALS?

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  44. @Svigor

    Well, Svigor, a coupla’ things on that: Yeah, the younger men do most of the crime, but then again, when will these demographics change when you keeping letting more in by the 100,000′s yearly?

    Secondly, what Mr. Ploskina (#27 for now) writes is a very good point – who knows the crime rate of Hispanics when many are called “whites” in the data? Additionally, with those “run-for-the-border” passes to get out of a court dates, I don’t think conviction numbers are going to be accurate with illegal aliens. I mentioned this already.

    Really don’t give a fuck how the leopard got his spots…

    Yep.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  45. The racial politics and the vote fraud with illegals voting and vote fraud and open borders push by the Zionist controlled mobs is right out of the Zionist playbook The Protocols of Zion to bring down America and further the Zionist goal of a Zionist NWO.

    Every patriot American should read the Protocols of Zion!

    • Agree: Wade, Rurik
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  46. @niteranger

    Niteranger, as Mr. Meener said, very good information. I’m sorry I duplicated some of this, as the comments were all in moderation until about 30 of them became active. I just now read yours. The whole thing is a sad state of affairs for Americans who remember a better country.

  47. @FKA Max

    “Serial Killers” were just the precursor to today’s “Mass Shooters”. Both are products of Gov. mind control projects and are no doubt intended psyops. Both are/were designed to to create large scale fear among the general population, which in turn will drive the population to accept ever increasing loss of constitutional rights and the acceptance of a police state lock-down. Dave McGowan points out many of the absurdities and unknown facts concerning the “Serial Killers” in his book “Programed To Kill” :https://api.ning.com/files/a*iJ4*yS1qwASsL-kTZPqaZXpwdunGy2ikjpqYmLLZGrbcAtcBgltwBImv5haO*U2D*Iq0MtRT5tfwXPakb7a5*MqLx6BrdW/DavidMcGowanProgrammedtoKill.pdf

    Jim Fetzer does the same with the “Mass Shooters” in his book “Nobody Died At Sandy Hook”

    http://12160.info/forum/topics/nobody-died-at-sandy-hook-read-the-book-free-pdf

    People need to become aware of these deceptions if they are to hang onto the few remaining rights we have left.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  48. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    its odd that hispanics are so low in crime but then you go to the Texas 10 most wanted criminals and almost every one is hispanic, same thing for even true for Kentucky a year or two ago

    in how many other states is this the case?

    Ron will surely have another excuse for them

  49. Urban mexifornia is literally full to the brim with MexChindians. ALL these three groups are quite low when it comes to assimilation especially cultural assimilation. Granted the mexicans have a bit of an advantage here but only by a hair. Plus economically they are way below the chindians which is understood as they come from a relatively dysfunctional society.

    The assimilation indices for the various major immigrant groups in the US:

    https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/comparing-immigrant-assimilation-north-america-and-europe-5846.html

    https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/measuring-immigrant-assimilation-post-recession-america-5858.html#.VZTAOlIaN6Y

    The Chindians on the other hand have some of the lowest cultural assimilation index (not at all surprised here. I work with these people especially the hindoos almost every day. Insular, clannish, conniving and completely unoriginal describes a big swathe of them. When an Indian tries to break the mold, the others quickly bring him in line) but high economic assimilation index. What these means is that we have successfully invited an alien elite who looks at us with contempt and disgust. These folks can’t wait to acquire the levers of power so it can become our csars here, totally unconnected to the blood and the soil of this nation. But they better be careful. People have started to notice these things now.

    The only group which has a high cultural AND economic assimilation index are the filipinos (not surprised). They are way more outgoing, more readily open to the idea of mixing with people unlike their own and their women are hotter in ways the Indian women can never be (counting averages here). Plus they dig whites more than anyone else. SEA is literally heaven for a lone white man, unless you look like joe lieberman. So if we HAVE to have people here, better them be like the filipinos instead of the mexchindians.

    • Replies: @anon
  50. alexander says:

    Excellent article Mr. Unz,

    You make the superb point of recognizing that while Donald Trump’s ascension to the White House was based on “the advocacy of a radical, populist, nationalist agenda “, he has hardly governed “in those terms”.

    I would say this is the understatement of the year.

    You do not, however, spend any time discussing the reasons “why” this is the case, but merely point out that with the “Dems” now controlling the house, he can defer the blame for that, on them.

    Perhaps we should take some time to look at “why” ?.

    Perhaps one reason , Mr. Unz , is that “Washington DC” has become so “hermetically sealed” inside such a titanic bubble of systemic graft and corruption ,( created by and for the one percent) the will of the people simply cannot get through.

    Governing by the “consent of the governed” is impossible , now.

    The Plutocracy rules the roost , and the days when the say of the people, held sway, have simply vanished away.

  51. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @SafeNow

    However, I would argue in detail that there has occurred a shift from an ethos of “proficient, conscientious, fastidious” to a philosophy of “get it basically right.”

    this is another thing that’s happened the last 20 years – if you go to a retail store, the cashier doesn’t give damn about your time, just goes as slow as possible, moves only fast enough to avoid getting fired

    • Replies: @anon
  52. wayfarer says:

    “In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.”

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucius

    International Cities by Murder Rate
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

    U.S. Cities by Murder Rate
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

  53. @mr meener

    Hay as long as Ramesh gets to displace Ronald (who by the way has an $80K debt), builds a million dollar home in cupertino (which by the way would still be TRASH compared to my aun’t home in iowa) all the while Ronald lives in his car and keep appearing for interviews it’s basically a win-win.

    “America” wins, it’s business as usual and Ronald slides in poverty. Hay but look at the “bright” side. He helped a pajeet realize his “true” potential, which somehow he wasn’t able to do back home in Bharat India. Isn’t this “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” they keep yammering about?

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  54. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    iii) Substantially increase skilled immigration.

    so bill gates and the crooks at google don’t have to hire Americans with IT degrees?

    yeah great idea

  55. MEH 0910 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There are many Hispanic drunk drivers that have killed innocent Americans for which one could say the same.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Clark

    Benjamin “Bob” Clark (August 5, 1939 – April 4, 2007) was an American actor, director, screenwriter and producer best known for directing and writing the script with Jean Shepherd to the 1983 Christmas film A Christmas Story.
    ……

    Clark and his son, Ariel Hanrath-Clark, 22, were killed in a head-on car crash on the Pacific Coast Highway in Pacific Palisades, Los Angeles on the morning of April 4, 2007.[11] The crash occurred when an SUV crossed the median and struck Clark’s Infiniti I30, causing the closure of the highway for eight hours.[6] Police determined that the SUV’s driver, Hector Velazquez-Nava, had a blood alcohol level of three times the legal limit and was driving without a license.[12] He initially pleaded not guilty to two counts of gross vehicular manslaughter,[13] but changed his plea to no contest in August. On October 12, 2007, Velasquez-Nava was sentenced to six years in prison under the terms of a plea agreement.[14]

    • Replies: @anon
  56. Jamie_NYC says:
    @niteranger

    Spot on, and based on first-hand experience.

    When costs of living are taken into account, California has the highest percentage of people living in poverty among the 50 states. It’s inequality, as measured by Gini coefficient, is also the highest, on par with China. It’s understandable why a multi-millionaire would be ok with all of this, I would just appreciate if he was less disingenuous about all of it.

    Mr. Unz is a bit vague about it, but it seems that the alternative he proposes for the Republican party is to be a kind of ‘socialist-lite’, 10 years behind the Democrats is every political and social fad, and to compete with them in offering goodies to NAMs. Guess who would win that contest?

    Yes, the future of the Republican party is grim, but there is no viable alternative, save for ‘lay back and enjoy it’. The hope for the future lies in breakup of the ‘coalition of the fringes’, as the constituent groups have nothing in common save for the hatred of traditional America.

    One thing I would appreciate on the Populist/Conservative/Republican side: lay off with blaming the Jews. Look at Ireland: it used to be the most conservative European country by far. Now, it’s flooded with third-world immigrants, the prime minister is a homosexual from Pakistan. Jews, really? No, they did this to themselves, and need to sober up before it’s too late.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @TRASH(NOT)
    , @anon
    , @G. Poulin
  57. peterike says:

    Yeah, what immigrant crime? I mean, so 8 of the top 10 most wanted in Texas are Hispanic. What does THAT prove?

    http://www.dps.texas.gov/texas10mostwanted/MostWanted/fugitives

    • Replies: @theMann
  58. @mr meener

    Unz may be a Jew but his sense is mostly good. His DNA as you say may sometimes cause him to slip a bit not the other way around.

    What he does with his pravda series, you and me can only dream about that. He’s got balls of brass taking on the SPLC and the ADL while us cowards are careful not to have some of our friends find out we are “red-pilled”. So please give credit where it is due. He is a class apart from the likes of us. Justice and fair play is what sets us apart from the Mexicans, salvadoreans, somalians, indians , pakistanis even the chinese. The Chinese may be high IQ but they still are a low trust society, although I’d place them above the Indopak crowd. Although I’d say we need to be cynical and become as tribalistic as these groups if we have to survive the onslaught. This does NOT mean we completely abandon any sense of righteousness and just behavior.

    Although in my case I have slowly but steadily started to flaunt it just to get other (white) folks talking. I think it is time we get out at least in our local communities. They need to know that most people espousing white nationalism are NOT basement jocks

  59. bucky says:

    Political correctness means blaming Hispanics for crime while not mentioning black crime rates. Eg Trump and the GOP, and many commentators here as well, are being pc. Ron mentions this in passing early in the article.

    The Hispanic crime rate is largely explained by the overall youth of the Hispanic population, and even then it is well below the black crime rate. In a way, this is because Hispanics have not been forceful enough. Black militancy makes everyone think twice before telling the truth. Hispanics don’t have the same degree of political mobilization or the threat of torching cities like blacks did from the 60′s onwards.

    A particularly weak pc statement came from a commentators who claims that police systemically misclassify Hispanic crime. Really? That sounds about as smart as people who say that test anxiety is why affirmative action is fair and just.

  60. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    as Calif Gov jerry brown says – “illegal aliens get 10 DUIs before you can deport them”

  61. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jamie_NYC

    One thing I would appreciate on the Populist/Conservative/Republican side: lay off with blaming the Jews. Look at Ireland: it used to be the most conservative European country by far. Now, it’s flooded with third-world immigrants, the prime minister is a homosexual from Pakistan. Jews, really? No, they did this to themselves, and need to sober up before it’s too late.

    look closer and you will likely find that jews were involved

    • Replies: @anonymous
  62. @niteranger

    Agree. If you go to California and look around a bit you see a different picture. For example in the town of Camarillo, just north of Malibu, the Mexicans have taken over the downtown and the whites have moved a few miles inland to gated communities. The town thrives and is neat–not like a black town which would be a ghetto–but it is very segregated. A little further north is Ventura which is a SWPL type town and that too is segregated. Oil and vinegar.

    I believe that what Ron is saying–but I don’t think he knows it–is this: California has a beautiful long coastline and a wonderful climate. As Melville observed, it’s human nature to want to live beside the sea. Many people will pay a lot of money for the ever-changing view and to enjoy access to the water for surfing and sailing and to get relief from the desert heat which is the norm inland.

    Those people are some of the most intelligent, creative people on the planet. They have created a booming economy the basis of which is not dependent upon extraction of any local natural resource. It is a rootless economy and attracts rootless people. With the surplus wealth this economy has generated, the elite can afford to live like Royalty. To satisfy their extravagant desires they have imported a huge number of low-caste aliens who stand to them as serfs to Lords of the Manor.

    The coastal elite care little about the living conditions of those dwelling inland. For much of the state they are separated from them by a range of mountains. White, brown, it makes no difference to them. They could easily be–and should be–different states for all they have in common. Interior California looks like Mexico but with nicer strip malls and more upscale gated communities separated from each other by better roads.

    The mainspring driving who and what California is not really man-made in the sense in which Ron and his critics try to cast the problem. As long as California has a long coastline and an agreeable climate, the social structure will tilt towards technological manorialism.

    Like you, I believe that California’s current social arrangements are equivalent to running on storage batteries that aren’t being charged as rapidly as they are being drained.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @anon
  63. @Jamie_NYC

    One thing I would appreciate on the Populist/Conservative/Republican side: lay off with blaming the Jews. Look at Ireland: it used to be the most conservative European country by far. Now, it’s flooded with third-world immigrants, the prime minister is a homosexual from Pakistan. Jews, really? No, they did this to themselves, and need to sober up before it’s too late.

    (((They))) are the enablers of this phenomenon, even when they are not physically present in a certain place. Not more than 2% here but they control the narrative, not just here but across the whole damn world. So even though they may not be physically present in Ireland, they still control the system there (from London presumably). Which is why we cannot extricate ourselves from these pointless wars in the middle east, constant immigration from the 3rd world and non stop cultural degeneration in the name of social justice. So as long as one doesn’t really look at the source of the leak in the underground piping as it is, it would be useless to try to fix the issue by buying a brand new tap. Please do check who changed the immigration policies in the US and the UK to remove any mention of race, just so you know what I’m talking about.

    Coming on to ireland, the irish PM is a catholic born to an Indian hindoo father and catholic mother. They raised him as a catholic keeping the traditions of the host country in mind. Though I hate miscegenation of white women by men of color, I can still excuse this case. This fella (his father) made an attempt to integrate (which is NOT surprising as it was in the 80s, back when it made sense for these people to really assimilate). Whereas now they create enclaves like sunnyvale, edison and redmond WA. His father embodies the kind of people we can have here, that too in limited numbers only

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Pericles
  64. How about unlimited immigration of fighting age Palastinian males to the USA ? Their vibrancy and diverse viewpoints could add spice to our slumgullion melted pot mess.

  65. @Svigor

    Off topic, perhaps, but related to your 1st point in this comment: I am no tax accountant, but I do my own taxes, usually with a beer in hand and in 1/2 hour (yes, I just round to the nearest $50 on most numbers, as I want to make a pretty clear point that I don’t live my life to please the fucking IRS).

    Where the hell was I? Oh, yeah, the standard deduction went up by 2X, from $12,000 for a married couple filing jointly to $24,ooo. Wait! Don’t break out the cheap champagne. The “exemption” per individual went from ~ $4,000 to ZERO. For a 3 person family, it is a complete wash*, but for 4 the $12,000 extra in the standard deduction loses out to the $16,ooo loss of the “exemptions”.

    Wait, here’s my point, with a question for any experts. Is this not a big blow to small family businesses, who would normally itemize if these deductions added up to more than $12,000? Now, you’ve got to top $24,000 to make it worth writing off the office, trips, etc. OK, then take the standard deduction, you say? Yeah, but the exemption deal is gone, so you may have had $20,000 in itemized deductions PLUS the $12,000 in exemptions (just for 3 kids) before, meaning $32,000 taken off the top line (deductions are taken off the amount TO BE TAXED, unlike a credit that comes off the bottom line). Now, you’re at just the standard $24,ooo deduction.

    Someone tell me if I’m talking out my ass here, as again, I’m not a tax man. This is really not difficult stuff though. Is this new plan a bad thing for small family businesses?

    * Not counting the slight, but non-negligible, decrease in tax rates, which will help a working man or couple.

  66. @bucky

    A particularly weak pc statement came from a commentators who claims that police systemically misclassify Hispanic crime. Really? That sounds about as smart as people who say that test anxiety is why affirmative action is fair and just.

    I would find this more believable if we didn’t have most wanted lists with police systemically misclassifying hispanic crime.

    • Replies: @anon
  67. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:

    This article gives me optimistism. Since it is inevitable that this country will be a one-party soon, this article helps reduce my anxiety about what to expect. And the GOP— except for the empty promises on social issues and what Trump promised during the election (end NATO, stay out of Syria, etc.)— has been at odds at with my values. E.g., neocon wars & foreign policy, Partriot Act and increased Police State, MIC, & Deep State for “national security”. So frankly, I’ll be as sad about the death of the GOP as I was about the death of John McCain.

  68. @niteranger

    niteranger, you are so right! The country is doomed. The only way whites can survive and live as they traditionally have is if they live separate from blacks, Latinos, Asians, Jews, etc. The issue that Unz raises about the Latino crime rate is irrelevant. Even if Latinos never committed a single crime, that is not a reason why whites should tolerate their presence among us. Their presence entails ultimately our undoing, our demise. Unz, though accepting the truth about so much, nevertheless evades this obvious fact. White survival requires white nations and white nationalism…without compromise. The Japanese may one day be wiped out, but they at least won’t commit suicide by opening their borders to foreigners. Demographic diversity is no nation’s strength. The Jews want our borders open in order to destroy us. Why does Unz, if he has our best interests at heart, insist that the Latino invasion is harmless…?

  69. @ThreeCranes

    The mainspring driving who and what California is not really man-made in the sense in which Ron and his critics try to cast the problem. As long as California has a long coastline and an agreeable climate, the social structure will tilt towards technological manorialism.

    That was a nicely written comment, but I have a question on this excerpt. Why was that not the case (needing all the serfs in addition to the surf) 30-80 years ago? There were plenty of very intelligent people – think Lockheed Skunk works and an aero industry turning out a newer faster fighter plan every year or so in the 1950s, along with the computer geeks that make HP, Apple etc, a coupla decades later. Why did they not feel they needed cheap servants and other labor?

    I personally think the country was very middle-class oriented and the transistor-inventors and the mechanical engineers in aerospace didn’t think they needed to stand out and live in an Al-Gore or Rob Reiner style mansion on the beach, no matter how much money they made.

    What changed, 3-Cranes?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @anon
  70. anastasia says:

    I tend to agree with the author about the crime statistics insofar as they concern major criminal offenses of hispanics, but can he explain to me why NY C jails are filled to the brim with hispanics, and blacks with a infinitesimal white population?

  71. anastasia says:

    Another brilliant article by Unz. He’s unbelievable!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  72. Che Guava says:

    Dear Mr. Unz,

    I do not have a dog in the race, although I enjoy aspects of the Cold War Californian mythos, the better songs of the Beach Boys, for one.

    What I really do not understand is your tale of the illegal who murdered a woman on, as I understand, a pier.

    As far as I can see, the account you give is utter nonsense, and concocted by a cynical lawyer-liar (you do know that the U.S.A. is definitely the world leader on lawyers as pro. liars) in front of a rigged jury.

    So, if I were to go to the U.S.A., overstay my visa (not that the killer even had one), become homeless, and fish around in garbage, I will find a pistol, and I will be so stupid about such weapons as to accidentally discharge it (which I very much doubt, I sure am not), and kill a young women by an accidental shot.

    This is a plot-line from the video game Grand Theft Auto Chinatown Wars, where you find weapons in garbage bins.

    I appreciate your 2nd Amdmt, but your account is nonsensical, that man was guilty of murder.

    People IRL, I would guess, leave weapons for later use by others in other places.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  73. @bucky

    A particularly weak pc statement came from a commentators who claims that police systemically misclassify Hispanic crime. Really? That sounds about as smart as people who say that test anxiety is why affirmative action is fair and just.

    What the? I don’t get your analogy. Do you know that OFFICIALLY*, “Hispanic” is not a race but an ethnicity that has a race to go with it (though I can’t recall hearing of an Oriental Hispanic .. yet!)? If you leave ethnicity off the column heading to avoid making a 3-D freakin’ crime table, then you end up with guys being classified as white or black, rather than white-hispanic or black-hispanic, respectively. That was the point.

    * I’m not saying I agree with the Feral Gov’t classification scheme, BTW.

  74. MissLucy says:

    Unz avoids the issue of IQ differences between Hispanics and Whites. Average IQ is 89 of Hispanics. The ones coming are also largely unskilled and uneducated and don’t show a lot of interest in education even when they come to this country and it’s free. They use welfare more than Whites and are more dependent on government jobs. They are not an asset which is why they come here. Get a clue.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  75. anonymous[662] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ploskina

    It’s all a scam. Take a look at the ‘Most Wanted’ lists of the various law-enforcement jurisdictions of America. You can talk sideways and backwards and rationalize all you want, the fact remains these people usually aren’t Americans. They come from elsewhere. They have different traditions and different standards of behaviour. It really is that simple.

  76. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @blahbahblah

    you didn’t realize that Gomez, Gonzalez, Ramirez, Lopez, Hernandez etc were all whites?

    • Replies: @bucky
  77. theMann says:
    @peterike

    And that doesn’t even begin to measure the total of immigrant ” crime” in our State. When you consider that something like, oh. 90%, of the DUI related fatalities on Texas Roads are done by Hispanic drivers, the true homicide rate for Hispanics in Texas approaches that of Blacks. When you consider that Hispanic females, especially illegals, won’t even bother reporting rape or other sexual coercion, you realize no one has any idea what the rate of sex crime is for that community. (Although if you track the staggering SDT rate, that tells you something). When you consider that Hispanic criminals throughout the country are routinely classified as White, you realize nobody had any idea what the Hispanic crime rate is

    In fact, Mr Unz’s claim of racial harmony in California is complete rubbish.

    When push comes to shove in the voting booth, non White behavior is motivated by one, and only one, emotional response- the enormous emotional satisfaction of the Stick it to Whitey moment. And the reality is that Whites, and some Asians, are huge net tax payers, and non Whites are huge net Tax consumers. Some day, soon I think, the economy is going to go very bad, here, and world wide. And then the USA is going to make Yugoslavia look like a picnic.

    In the meantime, enjoy those wildfires – drought + immigrant growth have exhausted water resources throughout the SW. The systematic wrecking of a quarter of the USA’s environment is just another cost of unending immigration.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  78. schrub says:

    Ron Unz, meet Victor Davis Hanson.

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/253685/victor-davis-hanson-illegal-immigration-illiberal-frontpagemagcom.

    It might be time for all Silicon Valley residents who want to be truly “informed” drive further east and spend a weekend or two in the now blighted (and bankrupt) California towns off Highway 99 south of Stockton or particularly south of Modesto. Spending too much time around any part of Highway 101 (from north to south) can lead to way too much “happy thought”. Sorta like a European visitor getting his impressions of Californa from daily visits to Disneyland.

    A debate between Unz and Hanson would be VERY illuminating.

    Hanson, BTW, works off Highway 101 (Hoover Institute) but lives, part of the time at least, off Highway 99. (in the now absolutely blighted town of Parlier I believe) so he definitely knows what he is talking about. Note how planning and zoning laws are now entirely optional in this area.

    Just like in Mexico. (or parts of San Jose).

    • Agree: AWM
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  79. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    There is a lot of election fraud going on. In all the states where the GOP used to rule, from TX to FL, WA, AZ, GA, CA, most of the immigrants are either too young or ineligible to vote, but many do anyway because the DMV is now responsible for registering voters and they *never* ask if anyone is a citizen, and has no capability of checking.

    Trump urgently needs to sign a new Executive Order that says any foreigner caught voting in any US election will have his/her future visa/green card/citizenship application DENIED, and face immediate deportation for breaking US law.

    Election records are very easy to verify.

    In addition, the DOJ needs to start an election fraud investigation and investigate every state. In the state of WA, a Turkish immigrant who shot up a local mall was found to have voted illegally 4 times, all for Democrats, while living here on a green card. The GOP needs to wise up and do this investigation or they are toast in 2020.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anarchyst
    , @mp
  80. Brilliant article and brilliant reasoning. but I have to disagree on emigration.
    in society the trends are deciding factor, and trends are growing in time or they die out in time.
    Emigration trend will only grow due to failing off some central American and south American countries.
    What will be result of it is only the guess.

  81. @niteranger

    All roads lead to the City of London.
    Jew Bankers perfecting their NWO by dissolving borders.
    Divide and conquer; same old playbook.

  82. Che Guava says:

    To continue, the killer knew how to operate a pistol.

    Sure, in U.S. movies, one sees killers throw pistols into garbage bins, but I don’t believe that they really do, maybe into the ocean or a river if they killed or grievously injured somebody, and a good one is not dirt cheap, so the whole scenario that you repeat from the defense l(awye)iar is so unlikely as for the possibility of it having been reality to meet zero.

  83. wayfarer says:

    “Luck is a very thin wire between survival and disaster, and not many people can keep their balance on it. “

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson

    California Sanctuary State Law Veto Referendum was not on the ballot in California as a veto referendum on November 6, 2018.

    The measure was designed to overturn the statewide sanctuary jurisdiction law, passed as Senate Bill 54 (SB 54) in 2017. SB 54, which was slated to go into effect on January 1, 2018, was designed to prohibit state law enforcement agencies from using state and local resources for the purposes of reporting, investigating, detaining, or arresting an individual to enforce federal immigration laws, unless that individual has been convicted of one of 800 crimes.

    source: https://bit.ly/2CymFPl

    Mugshots of the LAPD’s Most Wanted Criminals
    source: http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    , @anon
  84. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Not for me.
    For me Hillary was and is mad enough to start a nuclear war with Russia, with Europe as battle ground.
    Then there is the analysis of prof Laslo Maracs of Amsterdam UVA university, that the Peking Petersburg railway with a huge land port in Khazakstan, there container are taken from Chinese trains and put on different gauge Russian ones, made Trump and his rich friends realise that eight years Obama had moved the economic centre of the world from the Atlantic to halfway Peking Petersburg.
    On other words, a USA no longer able to afford worldwide imperialism.
    If my judgment is correct, then Trump is unique in world history, the present of an empire who understands that the empirehas become too expensive, but does not want to see it collapse.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  85. As usual, it’s always interesting to read the maestro, for there are nuances that only he can decipher. But are you so sure there aren’t many Democrats who oppose forced immigration? I would not be surprised that there are…

  86. AWM says:

    “You’ll never know who won!”
    “Who will?”

    Most of us will be satisfied with knowing that our enemies bled out!

    Trump got elected by saying part of what most of us thought.
    Who will say the rest?

  87. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Trump urgently needs to sign a new Executive Order that says any foreigner caught voting in any US election will have his/her future visa/green card/citizenship application DENIED, and face immediate deportation for breaking US law.

    he wont because he’s a fraud

    if he wanted to impact illegal immigration he would target employers for prosecution but he wont do that either

  88. Wade says:

    Thanks for writing this Ron. I think what you have to say on this makes the most sense. If we want a higher standard of living for everyone, we have to rethink legal immigration while dealing with illegals in a much more humane way.

    I don’t think many of the anti-illegal immigrant people on this site are aware of just how difficult ICE can be on some “illegals.” For example, I recently read a case of a man who entered the country legally on a work visa, got married to a US citizen and had children, and eventually obtained a permanent resident status green card. However, he was very surprised when he applied for citizenship, got called for an interview, and was promptly put in handcuffs. He was arrested by ICE and forced to leave his family behind and return to Britain. His offense? On just one of his many job related relocations he forgot to send in a change of address form to USCIS. I don’t know what happened to his case. Maybe he eventually hired an immigration lawyer or something. But there are apparently many such cases.

    Recent directives handed down from Jeff Session’s to immigration judges have just made things worse because they indicate that the Department of Justice wants immigration courts to adopt a “no tolerance” policy. In other words he wants immigration violations to all be prosecuted to the full extent of the law rather than allowing for USCIS and immigration judges to exercise any prosecutorial discretion. There are serious immigration violations and then there are violations equivalent to “Jay Walking”. Sessions wants each and every violation prosecuted. No exceptions. This will lead to immigration courts being severely backed up. Many ordinary people with families may wait years to see their date in court, unable to acquire legal work while they wait.

    I think the only way for Republicans and white politicians to survive politically is to keep their nationalist/populist politics intact but steer these energies towards promoting a high-wage US economy for everyone. Increasing the minimum wage was something I used to be staunchly against but I’ve softened on this considering the direction our country is obviously headed. The conversation should be focused on what levels of legal immigration are beneficial to existing US citizens while making every effort to treat illegals, and out of status migrants, humanely should be put first. Any illegals attempting to just walk across the boarder illegally should of course be detained and sent back, especially the caravan from Honduras. That can’t be tolerated. Our main focus, though, should be on population levels and its implications for the livability of our country for ourselves and our descendants.

    Another thing Republicans need to seriously reconsider is “neo-liberal” economics with all of its deregulations of Wall Street. Perhaps if fractional-reserve banking didn’t exist this wouldn’t be necessary but alas, it exists.

    And a final issue which I think both parties are totally ignoring to the detriment of the USA is anti-trust. The media conglomerates are buying up every property available and everything is becoming “Disney-fied.” The less the competition, the greater the political correctness and all the more that anti-American attitudes will get shoved down everyone’s throats by the media. I believe this is by design. I hate to bring up a petty issue but who would’ve thought that one of the biggest movie franchises of all time, Star Wars, would’ve been turned into a feminist diatribe. Welcome to the world of media monopoly! Thanks Disney!

    We should look hard at Google. I’m suspicious of Amazon’s unchecked growth as well and what it means regarding employability of Americans in the future. What business did they have buying Whole Foods?

    It’s time for the Republican party to fully embrace populism but rethink the methods of achieving it.

  89. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    Thomm is an Indian National.

    He just wants more Indians to come to America which is actually worse than more Mexicans since Indians are so ethnically centric.

    When are you going to bust out the White Trash in you comments Thomm?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  90. @Achmed E. Newman

    What changed?

    The modern “technology” upon which the economy of California is built is not based on manufacturing. All the plants are overseas. What we have here are disembodied intellects. “Look Ma, no hands!”

    Engineers are real, practical, down to earth guys. Remember, back then everything was hand drafted and every engineer studied drafting (even if he didn’t use it on the job), he nevertheless, was a person who was familiar with turning his ideas into things through the medium of his hands. He was of the body. His mind and body were One.

    He could relate to the workers on the factory floor because they were involved in the same basic endeavor–turning a pile of rocks into a flying machine–as he was. They both faced the same problem of using mental material to overcome the stubborn thingness of the world we live in through the medium of the muscles of our reluctant bodies.

    A programmer lives in a different universe. He lives in a science-fiction fantasy world. The “campuses” he works at reflect this with their sterile, idealized, climate-controlled environments. For the programmer, things and real people are messy. He would prefer to keep his hands from getting dirty. And that means hiring some peon to do the grubby work of weeding and fertilizing his lawn or buffing his yacht while he sweats and grunts away on the exercise machine down at his tony health club. Yesterday’s engineers probably mowed his own lawn, or his son’s did. At any rate, he owned his own lawn mower–and knew how to keep it running.

    The Software Designer Class doesn’t have to navigate the issues involved in negotiating labor disputes. If his gardener doesn’t measure up, he tells him to take a hike (or a swim, back across the Rio Grande). They don’t care about labor for the simple reason that they don’t have to.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @MarkinLA
  91. anonomy says:

    It’s never surprising that Jewish people love open borders and lots of immigrants to hide behind. It’s those Jews who don’t want to live in their own economic dynamo of Israel. There they could enact all their own economic policies just the way they like it, but they are often the biggest anti-Zionists on the planet, supporting the “Palestinian cause”, because they don’t care to live in their own land with their own people, their own economic brilliance and their ability to build a bomb. In Israel they could award themselves forever awards for their genetic ingenuity and cleverness, endlessly foisting their propaganda back onto themselves because I think they believe it. I’m so glad that immigration helped a neighborhood close to Ron, become a less violent place? How wonderful.
    I’ve read some writing that was full of smoke and mirrors and then I read some. Whether the immigrants are good people or not is not the question. For those whites who choose a foreign person of color, why don’t you want to live in that person’s country of origin with their people, think your saving them? You only love that one but not the rest? This is what people do, my child, spouse, whatever, therefore none can say anything about it, not even God, they’ll change that too. It’s a nice pulpit you have.

    • Replies: @NZLex
  92. bucky says:
    @anon

    Or really, are they artificially and unfairly boosting black crime rates? It is true that Hispanic often are classified white. The black crime rate is still highest.

  93. @wayfarer

    Your comment prompted me to browse the Most Wanteds for California cities. Ron is whistling in the dark.

  94. Wade says:
    @Wally

    I believe when Ron ran an his unsuccessful campaign for the US senate he ran on reducing legal immigration and he’s advocated for that elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Wally
  95. Che Guava says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Not the first at all. Roman Empire in the west? I know that there are at least several other examples since 1945.

  96. BB753 says:
    @llloyd

    Now Whites are about to become a plurality and soon a minority and Maori numbers are shooting up.

    • Replies: @llloyd
  97. anarchyst says:
    @anon

    The best and easiest thing to do would be to require EVERY American citizen to re-register to vote. This should be done on a national scale, with tamper-proof voter ID cards issued upon showing proof of citizenship. This could be easily done before the next national election.

    • Replies: @anon
  98. He was arrested by ICE and forced to leave his family behind and return to Britain. His offense? On just one of his many job related relocations he forgot to send in a change of address form to USCIS.

    Welcome to Anarcho-Tyranny, Wade. Why would ICE pull this sort of thing over a small technicality on a hard-working English immigrant? a) Because it’s EASY – this guy is a law abiding Brit, not one of those 30-odd million illegal Hispanics who don’t give a sheeet bout no steeenikng paperwork, Senor! b) Our Feral Gov’t is FULL OF traitorous scum – they know what the point is – to change the country by replacing the population. No, it’s not written in any memo, but it’s the plan. It’ll take a massive purge of the scum in most Feral agencies to change this, and President Trump has barely gotten started.

    In this Peak Stupidity post on homeschooling, I mentioned a nice white immigrant family of Germans with 6 kids who applied for asylum because the German government has clamped down on homeschooling. They got sent back by the racist Eric Holder Department of Just-Us. Nope, couldn’t have that nice, hard-working German family with the Christian values … wouldn’t be prudent. Instead we’ll take the 20,000 light-bulb-headed, worthless Moslem Somalians this year. Decisions, decisions ….

  99. anarchyst says:
    @Sean

    There used to be a time when just about ANY immigrant who set upon the shores of America was not only grateful, but willing to shed his “old world” ways and support his adopted country. He might have not known the language, and found some American customs and practices “strange”, but he fully embraced the idea that he could be an AMERICAN. He not only embraced the American ideal, but made damn sure that his children fully appreciated the land in which they were born.
    Contrast that to today’s immigrant, who is only concerned about one thing–American dollars. Today’s immigrants care not about the founding principles of this country, the Constitutional principles in which our rights are endowed by our Creator, and that the most important thing about being an American is the sense of freedom that he doesn’t want for himself or his offspring.
    Today’s immigrant brings his “old-world” customs and squabbles here, demanding that native-born Americans kowtow to him and change THEIR ways to accommodate his “old-world” ways. His children are not encouraged to become Americans and fully assimilate, but are required to maintain their “old-world” customs and ways, even if they run counter to American customs and mores. These old-world customs and ways quite often are criminal in nature, and do nothing to endear him to native-born Americans. He just does not want to assimilate.
    Today’s immigrants do not deserve to be here and should go back to where they came from.

    • Replies: @Sean
  100. @schrub

    “It might be time for all Silicon Valley residents who want to be truly “informed” drive further east and spend a weekend or two in the now blighted (and bankrupt) California towns off Highway 99 south of Stockton or particularly south of Modesto. Spending too much time around any part of Highway 101 (from north to south) can lead to way too much “happy thought”. Sorta like a European visitor getting his impressions of Californa from daily visits to Disneyland.”

    Right on. That’s what I’m talking about. The interior of California looks like Mexico. And the roads are the worst in America. Highway 5 is a disaster of broken pavement, heaved sections and jolting expansion joints. I’ve driven the whole length numerous times, from Shasta to route 10.

    When I first drove through in 1978, California had some of the best paved roads in America. Today they are the worst. And that’s an example of what I meant when I said that they’re coasting on battery power, stored wealth that is being used up.

    Problem is, software type engineers aren’t cognizant of these things. Same with poor quality of workmanship performed by migrant Mexican workers. Sure, they can mow a lawn but anything technical they screw up. Disembodied intellectual programmers wouldn’t know the difference since to the uneducated eye the results look “almost like the real thing”. But shoddy Mexican workmanship shows up in the end. As the saying goes, “Only the rich can afford to buy low quality stuff.”

    Of course, the rich can afford to hire specialized white craftsmen who do superlative jobs, not unlike the workmanship that went into castles built by and for European royalty. But the middle class Californian can’t afford that alternative and has to suffer from the deficiencies of Mexican labor whenever they are awarded a public contract for road maintenance and such.

  101. Rich says:

    I think the war is lost, with low White birth rates, rising Hispanic immigration and much higher Hispanic birth rates, the US is destined to become an Hispanic majority nation. Unless Whites start having more babies, and I don’t see that happening unless Whites convert to Mormonism en masse. That being said, although most Hispanic majority countries are very poor and very high in crime, a strong law and order government in the US, with long jail sentences and a return to actually using the death penalty, could keep the US in decent shape. The problem with that, is that as a gift to blacks, most states are now retrying the old early release, soft crime approach that worked so well in the late 60′s and 70′s. Along with the very corrupt American political class exemplified by the enormous wealth accumulated by the Clintons during their long careers, we have the danger of slipping into Brazil-like corruption.

    As to California, if I’m not mistaken, in 2016 they returned to the old bilingual education scheme in their public schools.

  102. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @wayfarer

    looks like a Top 100 or so and almost all beaners

  103. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    Thomm is an Indian National.

    He just wants more Indians to come to America which is actually worse than more Mexicans since Indians are so ethnically centric.

    When are you going to bust out the White Trash in you comments Thomm?

    I’m so glad Unz commenters are starting to see these ethnically- motivated trolls for what they are.

  104. Rosie says:
    @MissLucy

    Unz avoids the issue of IQ differences between Hispanics and Whites. Average IQ is 89 of Hispanics. The ones coming are also largely unskilled and uneducated and don’t show a lot of interest in education even when they come to this country and it’s free. They use welfare more than Whites and are more dependent on government jobs. They are not an asset which is why they come here. Get a clue.

    The significance of a ten-point average IQ differential is only now beginning to dawn on me, though I am relatively well-informed. These anchor babies are getting a $150,ooo (on the low end) K-12 education, courtesy of the White US taxpayer. They will never, ever produce enough economic value to offset that massive expenditure. Not even an average White American can reasonably be expected to do so, let alone Hispanics.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
  105. Thanks for some welcome rationality.

    The problem is not immigration, the problem is growth as a substitute for rights. The government’s idea is, get more people into the rat race and skim off more revenue for fiscally-strapped states. But the cost of augmenting overtaxed infrastructure outruns population growth in a vicious circle. Local dominance of real estate interests keeps states from examining their counterproductive notions. The example of states at their end of their rope like New Jersey is exactly equivalent. People don’t mind immigrants, they just can’t stand living in a seething overpopulated bug pit.

    The most subversive result of immigration will be people who know their rights. In almost any country of the global south, people are educated in human rights. They understand that their well-being depends not on growth and debt but on allocation of resources to their economic rights (instead of guns and bombs and tanks and cops and spies.) They aren’t infantilized like US natives, so they know there’s more to civil society than electoral politics. As a result, they are able to organize continually rather than sitting passively between elections and then waving their pom-poms for the candidate and platform that’s stuffed down their throat. Virtually all the competent bottom-up organizers in the USA are immigrants. They don’t hold still for absolutist US state doctrine.

    Immigrants who know their rights will transmogrify more than just the state-run parties. They will destroy the USA. That will be great.

  106. Wally says:
    @Wade

    Did he mention that in this article under discussion?

  107. mp says:
    @anon

    There is a lot of election fraud going on. In all the states where the GOP used to rule, from TX to FL,…

    I don’t feel sorry for Florida Republicans, Scott or DeSantis. They deserve to lose. The FL GOP had at least 8 years under Scott to “fix” the South Florida election thing, but they didn’t care…or they didn’t want to upset South Florida Jews who control the campaign dollars. DeSantis chose an Hispanic running mate who made the “Little Marco anti-Trump” thing her calling card during the last election. For his part, Scott embraced the Puerto Rican invasion during the last hurricane, welcoming them with open arms. As if PRs are going to vote Republican. The Florida GOP is useless…same old same old pro white dispossession.

  108. JC1 says:

    Mr. Unz, you are going to find that most of your readers will not be even slightly receptive to your message. What’s even worse, if many of them were to take a closer look at this issues history from 1965 forward, they would become downright belligerent.

    As for California, I will reread your article, but did you note that Prop 187 it did actually comfortably pass? That was in 1994. It was almost 1998 before a corrupt Federal judge ruled it unconstitutional. It’s not much of a leap to think she likely withheld her decision to ensure that an incoming equally corrupt governor, Gray Davis, would not appeal it. Seems like the only people left out of the decision making were the residents of California. So Mr Unz, don’t blame Californians or even Republicans for the state turning a most solid blue. We did what we could to keep that from occurring. You now want to point the finger at us and say, “just look at how wrong you guys were”. Nah, I don’t think so.

    Instead of engaging in back and forth bickering Mr Unz, I would like to suggest a small challenge. Tucker Carlson has recently posed 10 questions regarding issues ranging from immigration to war. I think you will find the questions are fair and well thought out. Perhaps you could give us your answers regarding the immigration related questions?

    I fear you are correct about Mr Trump. I voted for him but was suspicious that his messages regarding immigration and war seemed a little too timely. Of course, the mere fact that he talked about them at all was relatively refreshing. Politically, it currently feel like deja-vu from 2006 with the Dems taking over the house, thus assuring lost opportunity about having a wall built. Frankly, you begin to wonder if this entire game is even real.

  109. Anonymous[441] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    California is Brasil, but this is not seen by the folks who don’t take the off-ramp to take a gander at the giant tent cities in places like along the Santa Ana River or Slab City.

    Sans the violence, Brazil is largely nice. And Brazilian immigrants to the U.S. are a nice mix. Especially the women who are passionate and sexy. Now in my middle age I find white women boring.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  110. Tyrion 2 says:

    So many errors, this will have to be written in series format:

    1. Bilingual education is back. Proposition 58 repealed your proud achievement of 227. In 2016 this repeal got 70+% of the vote. How come you don’t know this?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_58_(2016)

  111. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    This is the study cited in the article. These figures are staggering, if accurate:

    Research Finds that U.S Murder Rate Suppressed by Improved Emergency Medical Response

    “The level of violence from assaults in America has risen dramatically over the past 40 to 50 years at the same time that guns have become more lethal and available,” Harris says. “But because of the vast improvements in the nation’s access to and quality of emergency medical care – particularly since the Vietnam War – the outcome of these assaults is far less likely to be lethal.”
    [...]
    Harrisand the other researchers used data from several sources, including the FBI’s national Uniform Crime Report (UCR) which contains statistics dating from 1931. The data shows that in 1931, the murder rate was 8.2 per 100,000 people, but in 1998, that rate was 6.3 per 100,000 people, a drop of 25 percent. By comparison, the UCR data shows that the rate of aggravated assault was 700 percent higher than it was in 1931.

    https://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/article/research-finds-us-murder-rate-suppressed-improved-emergency-medical-response and http://archive.is/9j2Si

  112. truthman says:

    Lets not forget that California is the countries leader in poverty when the cost of living is factored in. Maybe not Brazil, but starting to take on some troubling aspects of it.

  113. @Thomm

    Thomm the subcontinental doesn’t seem to realize when his mask slips.

    When Thomm says “substantially increase skilled immigration,” he would like to see more of his father/half brother’s family get residence in the US so they can pack even more street defecating gas station clerks into the corrugated tin roofed shack he sleeps in, in order to provide better insulation from the cold during those chilly Sheboygan winter nights. Maybe 1 out of 15 of them will get a tech job updating software for a midget porn website, the other 14 will be shuttled into call centers where they will impersonate bank security personnel as they attempt to swindle old white ladies out of their dead husbands’ pension money with one scam or another.

    Thomm needs a new bicycle to get to work everyday. His current one has a flat tire and he can’t get the smell of poo out of the seat no matter how many discarded pine tree air fresheners he rubs on it. Let’s do what we can to help the guy out!

    • LOL: Bragadocious
  114. Tulip says:

    But careful consideration will reveal that the major goals of the first and third groups—pro-immigrant Democrats and anti-immigration Republicans—are actually not directly in conflict, and if they formed a political alliance, they could easily formulate legislation acceptable to both that might stand have an excellent chance of passing both houses of Congress and being signed into law by the President.

    Democrats support keeping immigration high or higher for two reasons: i.) low skill immigrants dependent on public services = votes for Democrats, ii.) low skill immigrants = corporate donations for Democrats. Unlike the Republicans, they can even credibly hide behind anti-racist platitudes when anyone brings up the corporate interests in low wages/high levels of immigration.

    It is hard to see California-style feudalism continuing without some serious political extremism ultimately injecting itself in the process, unless its all a result of chemtrails combined with marijuana legalization.

  115. @Anonymous

    It’s repulsive how thirsty so many iSteve commenters are.

    • Replies: @anon
  116. The CIA wants a war. Unz channels the same BS that the master class broadcasts on every website available to the sheep for their daily identity indoctrination. It works. Voting proves it works when millions of peons pledge their loyalty to the rich and powerful and turn their back on the poor. Only slow people, aka the willing slaves called the voting class, believe a difference exists between democrats and republicans. The rich know better.

    California is great for the rich – always has been for the people who know better – even if their houses are consumed by fire. A Government agent like Ron has probably been tripping over poor people on the street for over 40 years. It’s not an easy life for a State brainwashing agent but technology has greatly eased the workload of profiling the flock.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  117. I was born in then lily white Iowa in 1944. When everybody is white you don’t think of yourself as white. It wasn’t until 2016 that I began to “identify” as white. This in spite of the fact that I have been in the deep south for the last twenty years. To my great surprise a white consciousness (in the sense of class consciousness) has emerged in the U.S. outside the deep south. This in not a reaction to brown immigration or black militancy. It is a reaction to what Kunstler has bravely called the Left’s Niggerization of white people more generally known as the war on whiteness.

    It’s not my working class brothers and sisters who are “people of color” who are demanding that I look at my shoes as I shuffle to the back of the bus. It’s the ruling class. Rich whites and Jews (and their useful idiots) who want to bring white people under a new Jim Crow.

    A white political movement will not seek to take over Imperial Washington. It will seek separation. Not from people of color but from an oppressive and dangerous ruling class. Post imperial America, an era we have already begun, will be a time of nullification and secession.

    • Agree: anarchyst, Rurik
    • Replies: @anon
  118. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Thomm the subcontinental doesn’t seem to realize when his mask slips.

    at the rate he’s being exposed on here, he’s going to have to come up with another handle if he wants to continue the charade

  119. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    he’s happy to sell out his nation if he can get some brown pssy

    • Replies: @Anon
  120. Kirsten Sinema. Ugh. I thought that our state was insane voting in Cuck McCain and Feckless Flake so many time.

    • Replies: @Anon
  121. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @WorkingClass

    It’s not my working class brothers and sisters who are “people of color” who are demanding that I look at my shoes as I shuffle to the back of the bus.

    don’t worry, they’ll join in demanding soon enough

  122. dvorak says:

    One important factor assisting this rapid ethnic reconciliation was my own successful 1998 campaign to dismantle the failed “bilingual education” system by ballot initiative.

    Kempists have told us for 40 years that non-Whites will vote majority GOP, somehow, someway, someday. Kempists haven’t provided a bit of actual evidence of their assertion. Further, they have ignored the data-based argument of Mickey Kaus and others, against the conventional wisdom that anti-immigrant laws turned non-Whites away from the GOP. The reality is, except for non-Whites who themselves fled Communism (cubans, boat people), all non-Whites vote majority Dem. The second-generation Cubans and Vietnamese vote majority Dem.

    The crucial difference is the difference between the liberal states of Mass. and Calif.: Mass. is majority White; Calif. is majority non-White. In Massachusetts, the GOP can elect governors, because Whites can listen to arguments and swing their votes. In California, there will NEVER be another GOP governor, because non-Whites will NEVER swing their votes as a majority. They don’t care about arguments and will always vote for the anti-White party.

    Again, Kempists will never learn, but non-Whites will NEVER vote for the GOP in a majority. Kempists cling to their faith, bitterly. They’re bitter clingers. “Why didn’t the GOP…” even though the Kempists had control of the GOP for 40 years, they manage to blame others for the failure of the Kemp plan for the GOP. (Corporate-controlled, sucking up to immigrants forever).

  123. dvorak says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    street defecating gas station clerks

    I was wondering what the next item on the communists’ list was, after gender-neutral bathrooms. It’s designated shitting streets. Thanks!

  124. @anastasia

    Another brilliant article by Unz. He’s unbelievable!

    Very true. I’m having a hard time believing all of it.

    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
  125. @Anonymous

    There is always such a lull once an ethnic change has been made. The “new” majority takes time away from killing the minority in order to sharpen their knives that had grown dull with use. As South Africa shows us, the rainbow needs ample amounts of crimson derived from white blood.

    We are only months away from being turned Palestinians in our own home now. The dawn of the Ethnic European suicide bomber is about to dawn if any Ethnic European is to survive the coming first onslaught. It is difficult to imagine a nation of freedom loving gun owners to allow themselves to be exterminated.

  126. Unz to white Republicans: cuck harder, faster.

  127. Doesn’t matter who you vote for, the ruling class remains. The agenda remains the same. You as a white, matter no more than the newly arrived Mexican or Somalian. Just another debt slave.

    Ask yourself why Republicans would allow this to happen. if it guaranteed putting their party out of power. Because the people that really run this country, do not care which party is in power, they control them both.

    Surely after 0bama and Trump going back on all of their campaign promises, everyone would be able see this. Now ask yourself who always gets everything they want out of the “government” and you will know who is really pulling the strings. Who has Trump helped out the most since being put into office? Who does congress consistently work extra hard to please? Look at the bills that ALWAYS pass. Who did 0bama help out the most, especially after the 08-09 Wall St looting?
    Who did Bush work extra hard to please?

    Just look at what the Israelis are doing to the Pals, or what US military has done to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, how many political puppets are doing anything to stop it? All of the coups, assassinations and death squads Washington and Wall St have funded in Central and South America, anyone in congress making a real effort to stop it? Nah.

    All started with the obvious lie of 9/11, how many politicians are calling for a new investigation into 9/11? Are they so stupid that the do not know the truth? Nah, they’re not stupid, neither are the FBI, CIA or any of the other Intel agencies, so why don’t they do their job and expose the guilty that did it?

    Doesn’t matter who you vote for folks. That is why Republicans will begin losing in states like GA. Because more and more people are finally seeing through the BS, and joining the nonvoters that refuse to legitimize or encourage an illegitimate “government” that does not represent the people.

  128. @MikeatMikedotMike

    LOL, Mikey! You have a real good handle on the modern convenience-store industry, especially the work done that Americans will not doo-doo. Get too many blueberry squishies into this guy Thomm, in one morning, and you’ll start to get called a white trashionalist wigger, whatever the hell that is. He gets his best signal from the router in the port-a-potty.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  129. It should be pointed out that President Trump did no worse with hispanics than previous Republican Presidential candidates. While I agree with Mr. Unz that the results from Florida, Georgia, Texas, and Arizon are disturbing, it should also be pointed out that this was the best midterm performance by an incumbent President’s party since 2002 (when voters rewarded W for presiding over 9-11…).

    Even with an immediate immigration moratorium and mass deportations (neither of which appear likely at all), we Republicans still have a very challenging demographic problem. The GOP is already moving to target this problem with a variety of voter suppression and gerrymandering strategies, but it seems we need to go nuclear and repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Judges who issue enemy injunctions against this strategy should also be impeached, or perhaps given the Old Hickory treatment.

    We can probably pick up some more votes from working class whites, hispanics, and Asians by moderating our traditional pro-business policies. Republican proposals on healthcare for instance are extremely unpopular. Likewise, as Steve Sailer pointed out, the popular tax cutting program of 1980 has lost political relevance today.

    The magic formula to dominate politics this century is:

    -70% of the white vote
    -40% of the hispanic vote
    -Suppression of the “emerging” leftist electorate in Texas, Florida, Georgia, Arizona, etc. No doubt Georgia politicians can consult some old law textbooks from the 1930s for ideas.

    American blacks appear to be completely hopeless and should be stripped of all political power once more. If someone has a better idea I haven’t heard it. Hispanics, on the other hand, have quite a lot in common with working class whites. This means we country club Republicans need to moderate some of our demands. We shouldn’t run on issues like cutting the capital gains tax anymore (though on the plus side no one seems to notice this tax).

    They’re not voting Democrat (albeit not that strongly and with low enthusiasm) because they’re scheming to replace us and adore illegal alien MS-13 cop killers. They’re voting on what they perceive to be their economic interests. The America-first national capitalist model is showing it can deliver the goods to workers, and now all we need to augment meant this by tackling exploitative rackets like healthcare and education.

  130. Even Ron Unz is arguing with imaginary foes from 30 years ago. The old argument is that immigrants bring crime. The new argument is that whites, mainly whites of a Christian background, do not benefit from immigration. Massive immigration causes these people harm. Maybe not by beheadings, but by bejobbings, dechildrening and de representing. That 30% White figure of California symbolizing that we won’t become Brazil that Mr. Unz quotes also signifies something greater. Immigration pushes founding stock whites out. It pushes them into the ground.

    • Replies: @Anon
  131. Ron Unz says:

    Well, I’m hardly surprised at the vast number of comments taking sharp issue with various aspects of my analysis. But since so many of them seem to focus on the crime angle, I think I’ll deal with that.

    First, the quantitative evidence seems absolutely overwhelming. People should really try reading my Hispanic Crime article from 2010 as well as my closely related Race/Crime issue from 2013. I’ll admit I haven’t bothered digging up the more recent numbers, but since my previous analysis covered 25 years of data and the results were so overwhelming, I very much doubt that anything has much changed:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-hispanic-crime/

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/

    For example, LA is now 50% Hispanic, and Homicides and most other crimes have actually dropped a bit since the 2011 totals which were the latest at the time I wrote my last article:

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Los-Angeles-California.html

    Since this thread has attracted so many energetic commenters, let me repeat my challenge. There are at least 11M illegals in America, and many of you claim the true figure is far higher. Most of these illegals are Hispanic, and therefore have very distinct names. America also has over 15,000 annual homicides.

    Now if Hispanics or other illegals had high crime rates, shouldn’t you at least be able to find TEN cases this year of a middle-class white person murdered by an illegal? I mean TEN out of 15,000 doesn’t sound like a lot to me. That girl in Iowa who was raped and murdered makes one, so you only need to find nine more.

    Just browse the archives of Breitbart, Daily Stormer, VDare, and all the other anti-immigration websites. Use those state Most Wanted posters you’re talking about. Surely you’ll be able to find lots and lots of such murders there.

    And if 11M or more illegals don’t seem to have murdered even 10 white people this year, out of 15,000 total American homicides, well then, maybe all my very detailed statistical analyses are actually correct, and Hispanics don’t have high crime rates…

  132. only about 20 or 30 people have been killed by the fire in california. that’s half as many people as get killed by lightning strikes every year.

    clearly, we can conclude that the threat to humans from fire in california is blown way, way out of proportion, and that fires in california are not really dangerous at all. we shouldn’t even spend any time talking about them, let alone worrying about them.

    right mr unz?

  133. @Thomm

    The 1990 census for East Palo Alto can be found here:

    http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/EastPaloAlto70.htm

    The 2010 census here: http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/EastPaloAlto.htm

    Note the change in “Spanish” to “Hispanic” in 1990, and again in 2010 to “Hispanic or Latino or Race”. Also note the large drop in the number of Blacks and African Americans.
    Mr. Unz’s conclusions as to the reason in the drop in violent crime can be seen in at least 2 other ways: 1) the drop in the Black population; and
    2) a population becoming more homogeneous.

    The first is more obvious, and the second may be related to whether a sizeable number of the “Whites” in 1990 were actually “Hispanic or Latino”.

    If there really isn’t a higher crime rate as Mr. Unz concludes, why are the crime rates increasing in the towns and small cities in middle America, that had, at one time, decent paying jobs in meat packing and slaughterhouses, now filled with low wage “Hispanic or Latino” immigrants.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
    , @Thomm
  134. @Ron Unz

    You’re arguing with an old foe. The diminishing number of whites in California proves that immigration is not good for them demographically. The radical leftist politics of California proves that the state that gave us Ronald Reagan is no longer good for them politically. It’s now impossible that whites can get representation. So immigration is not good for them democratically.

  135. Ron Unz says:
    @Che Guava

    What I really do not understand is your tale of the illegal who murdered a woman on, as I understand, a pier.

    As far as I can see, the account you give is utter nonsense, and concocted by a cynical lawyer-liar (you do know that the U.S.A. is definitely the world leader on lawyers as pro. liars) in front of a rigged jury.

    Not really. The fellow was a disoriented homeless guy, who’d spent many, many years in and out of jail on petty crimes and immigration violations. Frankly, based on the newspaper articles, he sounded like he might have been a little mentally retarded or at least mentally-ill.

    He claimed he found the gun while picking through the trash, which seemed pretty plausible. At least no one else came up with a better idea of how he’d gotten hold of it.

    The poor woman who was shot was a complete stranger standing about 100 feet away from him.

    The original theory had been that he’d fired the gun in her general direction for some idiotic sort of reason. But then they noticed that the bullet was flattened, meaning it must have ricocheted off the pavement. And they located the pavement indentation where the bullet had hit about 12 feet from where he was sitting.

    So that’s the stupid story of how the poor young woman died. Not exactly a Murder One case…

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @JC1
    , @Sean
  136. @Ron Unz

    There’s a disconnect between moderate hispanic crime rates in America and what prevails south of the Rio Grande. Mexico’s cartels are well known (and the country has a murder rate four times higher than America), and then we have El Salvador which has earned the dubious distinction of having a higher murder rate than average national IQ. Brazil records more murders than the rest of the world combined.

    There’s some sort of serious problem with political culture in Latin America.

    But then there was a time when Mexico was actually known for being safer and lower crime than America (a half century ago), so the situation may not be intractable. Brazil was also reportedly much safer during the military dictatorship.

    • Replies: @Nawi
  137. Ron Unz says:
    @theMann

    When you consider that something like, oh. 90%, of the DUI related fatalities on Texas Roads are done by Hispanic drivers, the true homicide rate for Hispanics in Texas approaches that of Blacks.

    Is this really correct? I’d like to see some evidence on such a remarkable claim.

    My impression is that the whole illegal immigrant/DUI issue appeared because anti-immigration activists couldn’t find any significant number of homicides by illegals, and therefore desperately looked around for something else bad that they could say. Whenever I see anti-immigrant websites writing about those DUI deaths, it’s always anecdotal rather than statistical, basically just citing a particularly unfortunate case of some white person killed by a drunk-driving illegal.

    Now let’s suppose there are 11M illegals, which is about 3% of the national population. There are about 10,000 DUI deaths per year, so we’d expect at least 300 of those to be caused by illegals. That obviously provides a huge number of anecdotal cases for those websites to chatter about.

    If it’s Hispanics in general, they’re about 18% of the population, so there would be 1800 DUI deaths.

    It’s certainly possible that illegals and/or Hispanics have much higher DUI homicide rates than the general population. But then again, maybe they don’t. I’d really like to see some solid, statistical evidence from someone who has researched the issue…

    • Replies: @theMann
  138. @Ron Unz

    For example, LA is now 50% Hispanic, and Homicides and most other crimes have actually dropped a bit since the 2011 totals which were the latest at the time I wrote my last article:

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Los-Angeles-California.html

    Most stats have stayed about the same or went up… and improvements in medical care continue to help lower the homicide rates. Rape increased 150%(this could be a change in reporting) and assaults almost doubled while theft and auto theft increased. Seems like crime in general dipped down it he middle of Obama’s presidency and came back up during his last two years.

  139. @Ron Unz

    Crime angle is irrelevant and silly.
    It is cultural and political angle that is devastating.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  140. Ron, hypothetical question for you: if you could wave your magic wand and give America any racial demographic mix at all, what would it be?

    (Also, predictions please: Will Ron give a clear answer or will he waffle?)

  141. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    Mr. Unz,

    did you see my two posts in this comments thread on this topic, yet?

    http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2620372

    By comparison, the UCR data shows that the rate of aggravated assault was 700 percent higher than it was in 1931.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2620921

    And if 11M or more illegals don’t seem to have murdered even 10 white people this year, out of 15,000 total American homicides, well then, maybe all my very detailed statistical analyses are actually correct, and Hispanics don’t have high crime rates…

    I believe Hispanics mostly kill other Hispanics, plus one could count white drug overdose deaths as white victims of Hispanic crime, in my opinion.

    Latinos Got 77 Percent of Federal Pot Sentences Last Year

    Federal charges often – but not always – indicate enterprise-level activity outside of state cannabis laws.

    Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-03-15/latinos-got-77-percent-of-federal-pot-sentences-last-year and https://web.archive.org/web/20181112190513/https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-03-15/latinos-got-77-percent-of-federal-pot-sentences-last-year

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Hello
  142. @never-anonymous

    Yeah. I noticed that the class divide, the difference between rich and poor, the wealth disparity or whatever they call it, was much more pronounced in California than in other states, even years ago.

  143. M Edward says:

    I was born in California in the 1960′s. It was once a great place with very intelligent and ‘progressive’ people. They’ve been replaced by every idiotic demographic on the planet and are now the most pathetic population in the Union.

  144. Art says:

    Mexicans are not bad people. Their families stay intact, they look after their homes, and they love their cars.

    The problem with Mexicans in America is that they are Mexicans – Mexicans vote for one party over and over – they are not “throw the rascals out” voters.

    To its detriment, Mexico was ruled by one party for over 50 years. DAAA – look at California – it is a one-party state. This is not good for democracy. Clearly the complexion of California has changed – and not for the better. In the 50’s and 60’s, the California economy was leading the world forward. Today, its major cities have a problem cleaning up feces on the streets. The Cal Mexicans did not do this – but the people they put in office – DID.

    With Jews controlling the media in America – that means 11,000,000 more Schumer voters. America will become a one-party country. This is a disaster.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  145. @Ron Unz

    Now if Hispanics or other illegals had high crime rates, shouldn’t you at least be able to find TEN cases this year of a middle-class white person murdered by an illegal? I mean TEN out of 15,000 doesn’t sound like a lot to me.

    C’mon, Ron. I think of you as a numbers guy. I don’t believe you have all your assumptions right, but I still think of you as a guy who looks through stats in database, as Mr. Sailer does. This TEN has been, let’s put it nicely, rectally extracted, just now as a high-ball estimate to prove a point. What makes you think that VDare is a compiler of stats? No, they put anecdotes up, though there are writers who do put up stats on VDare (it is THE go-to site on the real immigration story). These stories make the national news and the blogs.

    What does not make the national news are everyday murders, robberies, and manslaughters. Lots of these may involve a victim who is not some pretty Californian or American movie director (per the Christmas Story guy – see commenter above). You can have a hard time digging these up from the local news”paper”‘s website even if you know about it and live there. Those cases won’t just pop up upon a search on bing and google. They are just ordinary people, white, black, hispanic themselves, getting their lives ruined by Mexicans with 0.35% blood alcohol, or beat up in a robbery gone right. Oftentimes, the crimes are not solved, so we can’t rally say. TEN?

    I still want to know how you know that the numbers of Hispanics convicted of crimes includes those who skip town/country (lots of them) and why you think that “white hispanics” are not counted as white by many police departments and “black hispanics” as black. Lastly, the wanted posters have a whole lot of Hispanics on them where I live, though it’s neck-and-neck with the black guys.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  146. Them Guys says:
    @niteranger

    niteranger: You nailed it!..I read this entire article. I do Not see how Ron can state some of his stats and ignore what the nations top illegal/& Immigrant watchdog orgs have stated. Those watchdog orgs, like Numbers usa I think its called, have shown rock solid proof again and again that. Every single Day in America…All of the usa Nation, each Day has an average of 25 Deaths of legit usa citizens. About 1/2 and 1/2 split between…Illegal Mexican and other central America illegals who Drive without a driver Lic nor any auto insurance…That group causes half or 12-13 deaths per day…While the rest of citizen deaths are by Violent Criminal Illegals mostly Mexican with some central or south American illegals…This does Not count Legal or green card type immigrant Hispanics.

    Then as stated prior by niterangers post, in every stats on crimes I ever yet saw…Most times when a Mexican or other type Hispanic has been a crime Victim…Then they are Placed within the Hispanic/Non white category stats…Yet at same time, when the criminal Perp is a Hispanic or Mexican…legit immigrant/illegals or usa citizen alike. Those Perps are placed into the White perp category…Which massively skews stats to reflect greater white perps vs non white perp…and greater number of non white victims.

    ALSO, Ron seems to think entirely Backwards on it all…Example several times his theme seems to be that, If Only Repubs and conservative repubs would just Act and Do much more like Dems who are 100% Pro every illegal and legit alien alive on planet attitudes…Then all will be super swell for everyone…WRONG!….What? ever first Caused any repub official’s to even consider to take the anti illegal and anti immigrant stance or policies?…Can it be that its a Reaction to all these multi millions illegals? Include also as many if not yet more Legal aliens flooding in?

    Typically Cry’s for new laws, or law changes, never happen before the crime or problem exists.

    If as Ron seems to desire of, that Repubs will stop it and switch game plan to be more like pro aliens and pro non whitey immigrants like dems are, happens…What reason do we still need Two different political parties for?…Repubs may as well just become a dem, all repubs switch to Dems..Because in effect that is all we will end up with on this Main Top nation Wrecker issue.

    I usually like and agree with most of Rons ideas and articles etc…However….as to This article?

    Sorry but Rons entire attitude is way far off kilter. And also to use California as an example today, for the many claims he made in favor of even more alien invaders, especially non whites, is loony.

    Of Course. Fox news or even CNN or any other tv news, that goes into calif to ask folks there how they like being sanctuary state now?…Come on!…Sure now that about the Only whites left are Americas daffiest and looniest of loony Dem Libs, since many repubs left and so did many other whites…What else can be expected but some stupid lib women gushing how wonderful sanctuary state is…Maybe send tv news crews into Rural and small to medium American cities and towns to ask how they too will like a sanctuary city or entire sanctuary Nation….I think an entire Different reply will be found. I have my plan already. If My Rural area, which I had to leave Detroit and all perks large city life offers, as a trade off to live with No negroes nor mexicans et al, ever changes due to policys or agendas like Ron is so apt to desire for the usa?…I will Move again, into a Motor home or fifth wheel for a permant home and remain in Motion as often as necessary to keep avoiding life among Non Whites. Even if that means I, lose my home mortgage, ruin my 830-840 fico score, and wreck my credit status forever!…I simply Refuse to any longer be within 200 miles of typical non whites. Life is more boring rural yes, far less to do, no huge mall stores, not many babe women here, and closest stores and gasoline is 10 miles rnd trip..But very Well worth all the loss of such perks to remain in All White areas, period. That may give a good idea where my attitudes are at eh…43 years from birth in Detroit and I have Had it up to Here with both negroes and hispanics…especially their mexican 24/7/365 Circus Music on Loud always, and two dozen junk cars on front lawns, with too many kiddies to count making more loud noises than their Circus music sounds…NO THANKS PERIOD. Never again. Rather live Mobile in a motor home.

    Next to the dems antigun crap agendas, I consider everything related to Non White Immigration, legal and illegal alike, Both, to be an equal huge importance…The Top Two main issues we face as a nation, period.

    About the Only thing worse than having America filled with so many non whites, would be if at same time frame, we were Disarmed by a huge combo effort of antiguun dems+antigun Browns/Blacks+Antigun Jews which are the leaders of Both detrimental efforts to destroy whites and America as a nation. A new third world nation of Minority and Disarmed Whites who’s ancestors founded and created this nation…Now run by a combo of various Non Euro White nation wrecking Ingrates. NO THANKS RON!

  147. Dutch Boy says:

    Since Latin American immigrants come from countries with notoriously high rates of crime, Mr. Unz’s conclusions smack of “Magic Dirtism.” John Lott thinks so too:

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3099992

  148. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @FKA Max

    that’s odd

    Ron said hispanics don’t commit crimes at a higher rate

  149. Thomm says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Thomm the subcontinental doesn’t seem to realize when his mask slips.

    False. Only a 70-IQ dunce would still think that. Mikemikedotmike fails to see how loudly be broadcasts his own stupidity (as well as his extreme homosexuality).

    Plus, didn’t you idiots say that I was Jewish, just last week. At the same time, you said Thorfinsson and DB Cooper are Indian (they are not).

    Lastly, none of the actual South Asian commenters (rec1man, Corvinus, Talha, Malla) think I am from their part of the world.

    If you took off your gimp suit once in a while and went outside, you might have a clue about the world.

    Now, get off my lawn before I call pest control.

    Heh heh heh heh

  150. Them Guys says:
    @SafeNow

    What you in Calif. Call:…I would argue in detail that there has occurred a shift from an ethos of “proficient, conscientious, fastidious” to a philosophy of>>> “get it basically right.”<<<

    When I was still in Detroit pre-1995, it was called…"Just Nigger-Rig It" Or slang wise it was "Nig-Rig It"…..1970's affirmative action negro hire quotas, ended in Badly built Autos, which ended in Jap Car sales taking over of the Big Three Auto makers, and too many good pay/benefits Jobs you can count gone, destroyed by LBJ/Dems/Negroes.

    So now, even with No Lack, No Shortages, of Negroes in usa, a brand new solution is presented to us…of..Lets just Add as Many or even More numbers of Browns/Hispanics and dot indans, than we now have of negroes…..Just enough to cause Euro Whiteys to become a tiny Minority in America. Maybe this will fix and repair all damages done the past 55-60 yrs worth of former Dem lib commie agendas like LBJ's etc eh?….Yeah, sure its a good fix…That'll be the day.

  151. @Art

    Their families stay intact,…

    Well, yeah, 57% of them … per Niteranger above.

    … they love their cars

    Are you sure, Art, you’re not writing to us from 1985, when the Mexicans in LA drove all those classic American cars that came out of auction for unpaid parking tickets and drug running?

    Or, maybe you’re writing from the year 2,000, when there were 11 million illegal aliens ESTIMATED to be in the US.

    Welcome, anyway, from across the internet of time.

  152. Ron, your article is a masterpiece of rationalization, defined as the action of attempting to explain or justify behavior or an attitude with logical reasons, even if these are not appropriate.

  153. Agent76 says:

    Folk’s in California have not seen anything yet. Here is some background for folk’s.

    Sep 6, 2017 “Class Warfare?” Absolutely!

    “Class war fare” is the pejorative du jour in Washington these days. Behind … Classwarfare is nothing new. Plato spoke about it in his great dialogue, The Republic, more than … Smith, the “founding father” of modern free market capitalist theory, also wrote about class…

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-fair-society/201110/class-warfare-absolutely

    1974 California Gov. Jerry Brown and the Gasoline Shortage

    Although wage and price controls that had been imposed by President Nixon were largely ended in 1974, elaborate price controls on oil continued, producing a gasoline shortage. The shortage led to long lines at gasoline stations, particularly in California and rationing through “odd-even” plans based on license plate numbers.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  154. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    …California’s political situation was quite different, having absolutely no political divide that required any bridging. Our state’s politics had become extremely bland and boring, and I cited a good article describing the heated race for state Attorney General, in which the angry charges and counter-charges were so dull and perfunctory that one’s eyes would glaze over.

    Politics is dull in CA because it is now a one party sate. The only argument btwn political candidates in the perma-blue states of the West Coast and the Northeast is who is more left wing and woke, because they essentially agree on everything else — open borders, equality aka equal outcome for all, LGBTQ rights, tax the rich, free healthcare for all, free college education for all, and oh yeah, they all hate Trump.

  155. @Achmed E. Newman

    I cannot stress enough how demagogues have permeated politics, divvying up voting blocks on the basis of their race, gender, sexual orientation and, as you’ve pointed out, their citizenship status. California is the Socialist Canary-in-the Coal Mine, as far as how these political shenanigans benefit democrats, granting that party virtually unlimited opportunities to raise taxes, fees/fines/foibles (Casinos, Lotteries,Tobacco Taxes, Alcohol Revenues, Pot and Pornography.) and funds, wholly without consideration for fiscal restraint, or for the struggles of low income citizens, while exploding numbers of addictions to those vices are occurring. It’s as if the Mob has taken full control of our state. Illegal aliens actually have developed the attitude that they’re an Endangered Species, and they’re accorded special protections as a reward for their democratic votes . Basically, you could characterize California as a Petri Dish for the successful introduction of Socialism to America. Our state is becoming unlivable, with criminality and immorality being commonplace, and even encouraged with weak sentencing, and restoration of voting rights for felons You can be assured who they’ll vote for……

  156. @Ron Unz

    Here are some more up to date stats.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2017/017.pdf

    Homicides among Latino/Hispanics are indeed down over the past 30 years, but the same can be said across all categories. Latino/Hispanic homicide rates are still nearly twice that of White non-Hispanic/Latinos, but only one-quarter that of Blacks, who are killed at a rate 6x that of Whites even though black homicides have been nearly cut in half over the past 30 years.

    But to your point about Hispanic/Latino crime, specifically homicide, are the numbers lower over time because America has become a less violent country, because emergency care is so much better? Or have the most violent among them culled themselves out over time (note the steep decline from 16.2 per 100,000 in 1992 to 5.2 in 2016)?

    Finally, 11m has been the official stat since the ’80s, and it grows old to hear that figure, which recent research suggests is at least half of the actual figure.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @Ron Unz
  157. Agent76 says:

    Mar 2, 2015 OverCriminalized • Alternatives to Incarceration

    OverCriminalized profiles three promising and less expensive alternatives to incarceration that may actually change the course of people’s lives. It’s time to roll back mass criminalization and focus on what works.

    Aug 7, 2013 Did You Know #1 – The Myth of Police Protection

    Did you know that the police have NO DUTY to protect you? In this episode of DYK, we examine the myth of police protection by first looking at the popular view of police, then contrasting it with the cases of Jessica Gonzales and Joe Lozita.

    • Replies: @David Baker
  158. Them Guys says:
    @LostHopeless

    I’m sure when the US goes belly up (and it just might, sooner than you think), your beloved coloreds will take care of traitors like you first (no one likes a snitch).

    Indeed, Snitches get Stitches…or..Body Bags.

    Typical standard MO for the Coloreds is…First they seek out a White to harm or kill, if no Whites are close by, then second choice is to simply attack and harm or kill their fellow Coloreds.

    Yet goofy virtue signaler dem lib commie whiteys, still believe their staunch and unquestioned support and defense for Coloreds, will somehow endow them to their Colored Pets. So that when the big fiasco blow out created, due to said dem lib goofy lefty commies, finally occurs Coloreds are certainly going to do every possible thing to, protect and defend those idiotic dem lib commies.

    Sooo Blind to reality, the Blind leading the other Blind fools straight Off the Cliff. And you just cannot make this stuff up!

  159. utu says:
    @Thomm

    You forgot the most important: ban immigration form India and repatriate you back to India.

    • Agree: silviosilver
  160. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    The obvious reason for his [Steve Sailer's] remarkable silence is that nearly all those political candidates and campaigns were so bland and boring that there was almost never anything interesting to say about them. These days, Los Angeles is just not a very “exciting” city to live in or write about. By contrast, Brazil is an extremely “exciting” country, and if he were living there, his blog would surely be overwhelmed with local stories.

    Steve stopped writing about L.A. politics because it’s a gone case. Whites who remained in L.A. have either given up, or are fringe whites who are Jewish, gay, trans, socialists, restaurant industry people, sleazy Democratic politicians looking for votes, commies, academics, employers like farmers who hire illegals, tech industry HR people, developers and real estate agents busy selling to foreign buyers, immigration lawyers, or public employees and therefore largely liberal. CA has become an economy of foreigners, by foreigners, and for foreigners.

    All those people who claimed to support immigration on TV did it out of fear of repercussion. Political correctness is a necessity if you want to survive in CA(or any perma-blue state like WA, OR, HI, MA, CT, NY). Anyone who dares say anything negative whatsoever about immigration is committing social and career suicide. But do not confuse acquiescence with acceptance. Lots of whites in these states espouse liberal views on immigration, yet privately disdain and stay away from immigrants esp. anyone who speaks with an accent. If liberals really are that in love with immigrants, we wouldn’t still have segregated schools, and it goes beyond low performing Hispanic and black dominant schools, even Silicon Valley now has majority Asian schools because whites leave when Asians begin to dominate, even if they are high performing schools. Liberal whites are some of the most hypocritical people on earth when it comes to race.

    Ron is in serious denial on immigration.

  161. Trump’s final pre-election remarks, claiming that he possessed the legal right to issue an Executive Order abolishing our traditional birthright citizenship provisions seemed especially ridiculous

    I have seen a reasonable amount of commentary to the effect that it was meant to apply to the descendants of slaves and not to any foreign national’s who managed to pop out babies while on US soil.

    Can you point to well thought out arguments to the opposite?

  162. DB Cooper says:
    @Thomm

    Here is a clip of Thomm doing his things.

    These are skilled and talent people. They are the best and the brightest. We definitely need more of these people coming here.

  163. Them Guys says:
    @The Alarmist

    Also of Note: While as You stated that…But to your point about Hispanic/Latino crime, specifically homicide, are the numbers lower over time because America has become a less violent country, because emergency care is so much better? Or have the most violent among them culled themselves out over time (note the steep decline from 16.2 per 100,000 in 1992 to 5.2 in 2016)?

    During same time frame, usa total firearms bought, and ownership of guns has aprox. Doubled.

    Very Important to remember when us House control by Dems now, and with every major house committee chair head leader being the very Same virulent Rabidly, Foam at Mouth, Antigun Jewish Dem leaders, begin their usual non stop, constant whiny crys for MORE antigun Laws…

    That fact of less than 1/2 violent crimes & murders since 1992, proves that..Guns are simply NOT the main problem at all. Regardless if crime stats show low or higher numbers of violent crimes and murders, the biggest overall Factor Was, Is, and very likely Will remain, Militant, Violent Negroes are key main factor component of it. Negroes Not Guns are problem #1. FBI Violent crime Stats well prove this year after year after year, since fbi began to compile such crime stats about 50 yrs ago.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  164. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:

    the root of repatriate has positive connotations

    “thom” is nothing more than a barnacle to be scraped from the hull

  165. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    Ron’s declaration of victory over bilingual education is premature. It is back but under a different name – Dual Language Immersion. Our district in liberalism gone off the deep end Western WA recently added this program in 2 schools that are less than 10% Hispanic. The district claimed it was backed by “popular demand” in the community, though no parent I know has ever requested it. The new program seeks to be 50-50 starting in Kindergarten, 50% of instructions will be in English, 50% in Spanish. The goal is to have each class be 50% Hispanic, 50% white — to promote “cross-cultural understanding”.

    Libtards will not be happy until America is 90% non-white, 100% gay/transgender, and 100% Spanish speaking, with the remaining 10% whites be mostly Jewish, gay/trans and Spanish speaking.

    • Replies: @anon
  166. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    The higher the (government-enforced) minimum wage, the more crime and poverty it will spawn.

    Over time, the depredations of any fixed minimum wage decline inexorably as inflation roars on.

  167. Tom Verso says:
    @Tbbh

    Kumbaya Indeed! This article reads like the 60s song “If you’re going to San Francisco you better were some flowers in your hair.” For example: how wonderful that there is bilingual education in California. But the fact of the matter is that the US is de facto (de jure?) virtually (literally?) bi- lingual. Statistics describing various material phenomena do not capture the culture of a society. It is the ‘culture – war’ that is basis of and what European (aka white) people are responding too. How does Ron explain the masses of people that show up to Trump rallies? They all watch and are brainwashed by Fox News? No! They are experiencing something real in their lives. What that something is I’m not sure. But it is something more than the nightly news broadcast.

    • Replies: @bomag
  168. Sean says:
    @anarchyst

    http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2620618

    You agree with Ron Unz that immigrants (I will assume he includes the descendants of immigrants) and the the country they are in will do best if they assimilate to that country’s culture.

    I take the opposite view and think that if they must stay, immigrants should not only be allowed to have their own ways and language, they should actually be discouraged from bringing up children in an assimilated way . Of course the best place to give the children and grandchildren the culture they need to flourish is in their parents’ or grandparents’ homeland.

  169. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    If Hispanics really are that low crime, why do so many stores in Hispanic dominant areas have bars on their windows? Why are 16 out of 20 of the most dangerous cities in the world in Latin America?

    Over 42% of violent criminals in CA are Hispanic. Fully 27% of criminals in our federal prisons are non-citizens, mostly again Hispanic. The most famous gang banger schools are all Hispanic. The most violent gang in America is MS-13, a Hispanic gang. A hispanic male is 3x more likely than a white male to commit a crime, and a black male 5x more likely. Recently WaPo reported that less than 10 miles away from the White House, hispanic gangs are so virulent in a local high school the teachers are afraid to go in everyday. These are stats that you can easily find on the web which Ron ignores.

    Ron needs to prove his own point by moving to a neighborhood that’s 80% Hispanic. Until then, he’s another liberal hypocrite when it comes to race, and his crime statistics on Hispanics are highly manipulated like all mainstream media statistics.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Nawi
  170. RJJCDA says:

    Mr. Unz, demographics and fraud result in Dems success in current elections. The 1965 immigration act, which was supposed to NOT CHANGE the demographics was the death blow to the heritage demographic and culture. Reagan in 1986 succumbed to sentiments from Reps and caved.

    If say 200,000,000 more minorities, are “allowed” in, what difference does it make if they are legal or illegal. For all but in name, America will cease to exist.

    Observations are made today of treatment of Christians throughout most of the world, and the experience of South African heritage whites predicts the future.

    Living as you do in the cocoon of California, you are unable to recognize and process the anger of the “radical middle” identified by Sam Francis. They will not go quietly into that dark demographic night. For if whites are dispossessed in the country as a whole, what is the point of calling this their country?

    Unless Trump is successful at turning this around, ominous developments will manifest.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  171. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    iii) Substantially increase skilled immigration.

    i.e. import all of India and China because all 2.5 billion of those people are “highly skilled”, “best and brightest”.

    Are you effing kidding me?

    Indians are the world’s biggest scam artists. Type in “Microsoft tech support” on Google and start calling those 800 numbers, 9 out of 10 are Indian scam artists looking to download all kinds of viruses on your machine to scam you.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  172. Nawi says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Our % of crime (Argentina) is lower than in the US , same for Uruguay and Chile.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
  173. Dumbo says:

    So tired of this defense of Mexicans in Mexifornia.

    Even if Mexican immigrants don’t commit more crimes than whites (which is doubtful, but let’s accept the premise), they are worse in many other aspects such as littering, graffiti, fraud, etc.

    And even if they were model citizens, still there was and is no reason to bring millions of them and completely turn California into, basically, Latin America with more money and better government.

    California now sucks, simply because it has millions of Mexicans. The cost of living is high, house are expensive (and they want to institute rent control, to worsen things!) traffic is insane, there is a water shortage, lots of homeless people, etc. Not to mention the fires, which, directly or indirectly are a result of increasing population.

    Yes, the rich are happy because they can have cheap servants and maids. Screw them. I for one think they all should die in a tsunami. For “normal people”, California sucks more and more.

  174. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The goal is to have each class be 50% Hispanic, 50% white — to promote “cross-cultural understanding”.

    you need to understand the invaders

  175. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    When I was growing up in the 70′s and 80′s, any mention of CA immediately conjured up the image of “Valley girls”, gorgeous CA blondes and surfer dudes. Then came the Jews and gays and brought with them mass immigration and the coalition of the fringes. These days when I think of CA I think of Hispanic gangs, Asian nerds in the tech industry, gays, Jewish lawyers and scary looking whites with neck tattoos who work in the restaurant industry.

  176. Ron’s point is valid. Hispanics aren’t the worst people in the world, and to the extent they displace blacks, they lower crime rates. But their colonization of the USA has still ruined the country, well them and all the other immigrants. A lot of us simply prefer to live with whites.

    I find it strange that Ron cites Sailer to bolster his case. Sailer may have gotten tired of the subject in recent years, but between 2010 and 2014 he frequently cited all the small ways the mediocre Mexican-American population degrades the quality of life. Littering, low test scores, playing music on speaker phone, and corner cutting. Anyone who’s worked in a diverse environment can more these smaller issues, and note how much more pleasant it is to work with Anglo Saxons. Mestizos aren’t especially violent but they are hardly the best people.

    I suppose there’s no use bitching about it. White Americans are an exhausted non-people. Most of them recoil from the notion that a white majority is desirable, and are content to watch TV series and go out to restaurants. America will in time be ruled by the likes of that awful Cortes woman, it’s what we deserve. We have to settle for an America that is merely an economic zone, a place to work and spend money, rather than a nation.

  177. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Ron needs to prove his own point by moving to a neighborhood that’s 80% Hispanic.

    lol, wait for that

  178. Nawi says:
    @anon

    The 50 most dangerous cities in America (the continent)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate (I do not know why Johannesburg was included)

    5 are in the US. No Argentinian, Uruguayan, Chilean, Bolivian, Paraguayan, Costa rican, Cuban city on that list.But, hey…, Latin America is quite dangerous unlike in the US, where we are exceptional and indispensable and the safest country in the hemisphere.
    Keep believing your own propaganda if that makes you happy.

    • Replies: @Anon
  179. @Agent76

    If criminals have one common trait, it is their low threshold of boredom. They cannot function among productive, law abiding citizens. Criminals (I lived with one, so this is first-hand information..) are classic examples of sociopaths, who regard other people as marks for any number of scams and physical threats they can pull on them. Jails merely serve as training centers for these miscreants. Rather than rehabilitating crooks, they leave those facilities as more knowledgeable practitioners of crime. I came to the realization that Law Enforcement is a system that is dependent upon the continuation of crimes, which will inevitably occur after crooks are released. Alternatives to incarceration may seem attractive to social engineers, but they never had to deal with a true predatory criminal in their unprotected, vulnerable citizen elements.

  180. utu says:

    I heard several false notes in this article. I am afraid that Ron Unz is not entirely honest here. His real motive is still hidden.

    • Replies: @Anon
  181. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    he’s happy to sell out his nation if he can get some brown pssy

    And boobs. Copulating with (down with) OPP is a normal male instinct, isn’t it? I love taking my dad to his medical appointments because they have some knockout Brazilian receptionists there who wear skin-tight outfits and low-cut tops. And they go out of their way to flaunt their assets. I love brown women and Latinas! I grew up in whitopia middle America and dated nothing by Nordic-looking white women. I was deprived! But I fixed that by marrying a brown woman. Best. Decision. I. Made.

    • Replies: @dvorak
    , @anon
    , @RadicalCenter
  182. @RJJCDA

    Most of the immigration since 1965 has come from the Western Hemisphere. Western Hemisphere immigration, astonishingly, was non-quota under the 1924 law (largely due to pressure from Texan business interests). That’s not to defend the 1965 law, but maintaining the 1924 law wouldn’t have saved California either.

  183. Ron Unz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This TEN has been, let’s put it nicely, rectally extracted, just now as a high-ball estimate to prove a point. What makes you think that VDare is a compiler of stats? No, they put anecdotes up, though there are writers who do put up stats on VDare

    Well, just out of curiosity, I dropped by that Daily Stormer website, and just today they had FOUR cases of whites murdered by blacks (plus another case of a black guy who killed his white wife, which doesn’t count).

    Assuming that’s fairly average, they probably provide 1,000 cases each year of whites murdered by blacks. So surely if you browse their archives, you can find at least TEN cases of whites murdered by Hispanics. If not, maybe you should warn everyone that the Daily Stormer is covering up Hispanic crime because they’re secretly part of the Open Borders Lobby.

    What does not make the national news are everyday murders, robberies, and manslaughters.

    Well, Kate Steinle was a totally unknown young woman until she was killed by an illegal and therefore became world famous. That unfortunate girl in Iowa was also totally obscure, until she became very famous for the same reason. My guess is that there are hundreds of anti-immigrant activists constantly on the lookout for any ordinary white person murdered by a Hispanic illegal, who then work very hard to ensure that the homicide reaches the national headlines, while ignoring nearly all of the 15,000 other annual homicides.

    why you think that “white hispanics” are not counted as white by many police departments

    *Obviously* that’s a serious problem with the crime statistics. That’s why all the methodologies I followed in my Hispanic Crime article were exactly designed to get around that problem. You really should read the article…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  184. @Ploskina

    Plenty of white people have “South American ancestry.” You are conflating race with geography. I assume you are interested in mestizos, Amerindians, mulattos, and so on who “claim to be white” but are not. Being white (or not) has no more to do with having roots in South America (or not) than does, say, being black (or not) have to do with having roots in North America (or not): for hundreds of years white people have been being born in South America and black people have been being born in North America. (I concede that on a large scale of time we can indeed speak of only whites having roots in Europe, only blacks having roots in Africa, and so on; but by that measure no one has roots in America, north or south – the Amerindians came of Asia…anyhow it gets increasingly hazy and silly the farther one takes it – we all have roots in prokaryotic marine sludge.

    What’s more, very few South Americans have much to do with the matter at hand in any case: the vast majority of those so-called “Hispanic” persons invading the F.U.S.A. come from southern North America: Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, El Salvador, etc.

    We speak of illiteracy and innumeracy, is there a ingeogracy or some such? Because this phenomenon really needs a name so it can be “A Thing” and get denounced more.

  185. Ron Unz says:
    @The Alarmist

    Homicides among Latino/Hispanics are indeed down over the past 30 years, but the same can be said across all categories. Latino/Hispanic homicide rates are still nearly twice that of White non-Hispanic/Latinos

    No, you entirely misinterpreted that government document. The figures were for *dying* by homicide, not *committing* homicide.

    Hispanics, especially recent immigrants, tend to be considerably less wealthy than whites, so a substantial fraction of them are forced to live in more dangerous neighborhoods, which obviously means they’re more likely to get murdered.

    Consider the case of Korean liquor store owners in South-Central LA during the 1980s and 1990s, or perhaps NYC taxi drivers during that same period. I’d assume that they suffered homicide rates that were vastly higher than the general population. But I doubt they were *committing* homicides in huge numbers.

    You really should read my article. I go through all these statistical issues in considerable detail, using several very robust methodologies…

  186. @Anonymous

    You’re right: the Indians from India are incredibly racialist. Because India was once an English colony, the upper castes have had access to Western educational institutions. Generally speaking, first generation Indian-Americans in government, academia, and media operate with an agenda to supplant the increasingly disappearing white ruling class and become the rulers of the ever growing brown horde. “Blacks with brains”, as Clinton-Podesta crony Neera Tanden once joked.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @TRASH(NOT)
  187. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I was in the tech industry since before it was cool, when it was still dominated by nerds. What changed? Back when SV was dominated by the Hewlett-Packard, Jobs-Wozniak type of uncool nerds, there was integrity in the industry, techies got into tech because they were genuinely seduced by the power of computers, not because of the money(because there was little), and the industry was small enough almost everyone who worked in it was a techie nerd. Then came the dotcom boom 2.0, and this time, the entrants are very different, the founders of dotcom 2.0 are mostly Jews, funded by venture capitalists who are again Jews, and that was the beginning of the end.

    Anything that makes a lot of money will always attract Jews, and when Jews take over an industry, they will invariably run it to the ground with their greed and lack of self-restraint, like they did everything else, from Wall Street to Hollywood, politics, law, medicine, media, academia and now Silicon Valley. The tech industry has grown so much that majority of people who work in SV today are not real techie software engineers, but the supporting staff like HR, diversocrats, sales, marketing, legal, finance, tech support, customer service, operations, web editors, “creatives” aka web designers etc., and of course the Venture Capitalists who are all Wall Street transplants, i.e. overwhelmingly liberal arts majors who are very liberal.

    The overwhelming majority of software engineers over 40 are opposed to the H1b visa because they rightly see it as the employers way of replacing older engineers with young cheaper imports from India. But this group of people are increasingly the minority in the tech industry, shouted down by the younger peripheral staff that are dogmatic in their liberal, socialist zeal.

    The upshot is SV has become another industry taken over by Jews, i.e. crazy liberal, dogmatic, ruthless, greedy, dishonest, sexually depraved, highly unequal, narcissistic, self-serving, full of hypocrisy, and surrounded by like-minded fortune seekers from around the world a.k.a. equally self-serving, rootless economic migrants who are here to take whatever they can while the taking is good, fuck everyone else and fuck country.

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @anon
    , @TRASH(NOT)
    , @peterAUS
  188. dvorak says:
    @Anon

    I love brown women and Latinas! I grew up in whitopia middle America and dated nothing by Nordic-looking white women. I was deprived! But I fixed that by marrying a brown woman. Best. Decision. I. Made.

    Don’t you miss the IQ points in your offspring?

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
    , @Anon
  189. @SafeNow

    I am also a long-time California resident, dividing my time between Los Angeles and Sacramento. I would say that both you and Mr. Unz are premature in declaring that this state is safe from Brazilification. If the white liberal ruling class, in their current madness, get their way, California will absorb continuous waves of people who are illiterate in their own language. The institutions of government and civil society will disintegrate.

  190. DB Cooper says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I wish this is true so they can stay in their own country and build their Hindu Wakanda. Average IQ 82, not much brain. Even the subcon here are dumb but with a huge ego and hide their cluelessness well. That’s why India is a $hithole. Just google ‘Filthy India’ and take a look.

  191. @Ron Unz

    No, I meant that. While I’m sure a number of Latino/Hispanic homicides were at the hands of blacks, it is not unreasonable to assume a large proportion was at the hands of other Latino/Hispanics. If they are living in dangerous neighbourhoods, it is danger largely from their own kind with an occasional interracial drive-by.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @FKA Max
  192. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Well put. The one (((group))) who want to destroy the west know who their biggest competition is, it’s the people who gave the world the industrial revolution and built the most advanced civilizations in the world today. The New World Order requires the complete subjugation of such a people, and the only way to do that is by seizing the propaganda machine – media and academia — by hammering white guilt into them so that enough will come along and vote against their self-interest by opening up their countries to be run over by the low IQ black and brown hordes.

    As Arnold Toynbee said, civilizations don’t die, they commit suicide. Western civilization is committing suicide on a grand scale, thanks to the fifth columnists among us who now dominate the most important institutions in this country, are actively trying to stifle dissent, and brazenly and shamelessly committing election fraud when Americans try to rebel.

    The only people who want mass immigration for the West are people who hate the West and want to see it destroyed from within, simple as that. It’s a revenge 2,000 years in the making.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  193. @Ron Unz

    But I take your point, that I am working backwards and making a huge assumption.

  194. @Johnny Walker Read

    Dave McGowan’s book, Programmed to Kill (2004), is fascinating and very disturbing.

  195. JC1 says:
    @Ron Unz

    I think it may have been a policemans’s gun, and that was a story all by itself.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  196. Ron Unz says:
    @The Alarmist

    it is not unreasonable to assume a large proportion was at the hands of other Latino/Hispanics. If they are living in dangerous neighbourhoods, it is danger largely from their own kind with an occasional interracial drive-by.

    Well, look, you can believe whatever you want…

    But then why is it that the most heavily Latino/immigrant cities in America also generally tend to have some of the lowest homicide/serious crime rates in America?

    I discussed all this evidence at considerable length in my article, along with the numerous follow-up columns that addressed various responses and critiques.

    I can’t see why I should bother repeating myself in this comment-thread.

    • Replies: @L. Ron Cosby
  197. Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    You said ‘It will be more socialism and income distribution and then the decline of our nation.’

    I think you are forgetting that nearly 90% of those the USA governs are among the 92% that must share the 8% of the total wealth not yet scooped up by the 1%ers. Capitalism with monopoly is quite different from capitalism without monopoly powers; just as democracy where everyone votes on laws not people, is quite different from republics were the masses (all but 527 people are denied access to their own government) are restricted to vote for the puppets of the Oligarchs.

    The USA has given its 1%ers monopolies (copyright, patents, franchises, massively privileged government contracts and the like) and the 1%er monopoly recipients have used those gifts to transfer the wealth and the wealth producing capacity of the nation into to the possession of the 1%ers. Worse, they are trying to destroy the education system so that no one can independently compete with the 1%ers.

    Three are three ways to fix this:
    1 annex Mexico into America and let the Spanish voters over rule the Jewish 1%ers.
    2. remove copyright, patents, government franchises and let capitalism return to free and open markets, tax everyone back to the same income level year after year, eliminate wealth transfer by bequeath.
    3. nationalize all businesses with receipts greater than $1 million

    One of these three events is going to happen..not just in America to the USA, but in every Republic type Democracy around the globe. The 1%ers can no longer hold their lead over the masses because the 1%ers are depending on the 92% (the masses) to defend an indefensibly unjust condition, because Robots are going to eliminate the need for blue collar, and because the world is rising to defend the rights and privileges of equal distribution that justice demands.

    With regard to the last part of your statement: I do not think transformation to a leaderless society will result in a decline in our America, though it may result in the demise of the USA (something different may emerge), instead I see a most successful new environment. An environment that protects free market democracy and equality of political rights among everyone. A world where everyone contributes to everything, a world where highly paid leaders or highly paid footballers still get their pay, but taxes make them disappear, contributions will be expected without increase in pay, and contributions will be made not because the contributor expects a monetary benefit but because his or her contributions leads to or is intended to lead to a better world for occupying humanity.

    Around the globe this phenomena is talking place. Everyone is waking to the structural corruption the Oligarchs have established in the nation state system. The nation state system has been used to distribute monopoly powers to a very few, and the awesome powers of government have been used to protect the benefits of those monopolies to the same few. This structural corruption has held in back the advancement and wealth sharing the masses of humanity are entitled. It is a human right that all humans share the same earth equally with the same rank and privilege. We don’t need to distinguish ourselves from each other, we have a new challenge: the robot.
    The nation state system has enabled a very few to restrict and retard the advancement of the many; ironically, its abuses have been so extreme that the unfairness of the situation has come to the attention of the masses.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  198. NZLex says:
    @anonomy

    “…their own land with their own people…” – you’re kidding, right? The very fact that certain Jewish people with wealth and influence promote open borders and anti-religious “diversity” everywhere on the planet except “Israel” tells you plenty. It is a colonial settler project, and still trying very hard to erase all the REAL people of the land there. They wouldn’t last a week with open borders, and I’ve never heard any criticism about LGBTQXYZ+++ rights over there.

    Ron’s article is intelligent and well-reasoned – LEGAL immigration has done far more damage to the America of old than illegal, and such intense focus on “rapists and murderers” makes the Republicans and Trump seem far more racist than they really are. Plus the ridiculous battle over Obamacare was handled badly – it doesn’t matter that it was a terrible and expensive policy, most human beings on earth want free health care. Trump also could have won a ton more votes to the Republicans by – not being such a fanatical pro-Zionist and getting out of Syria, Afghanistan,etc. Both of those things didn’t require Congressional votes and were well within his power to do (or not do in the case of “Israel”).

    Finally, the USA faces difficulty with the immigration question because it is historically an immigrant nation. However, there is nothing inherently immoral about the nation deciding that they are now “full” and making it hard to become a citizen unless you are a certain sort of person – like everywhere else on the planet.

  199. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @TRASH(NOT)

    Average IQ of Filipinos: 86, even lower than the 88 of Mexicans, and barely 1 point above the mean black IQ in the US. There’s a reason why Philippine is such a shithole that so many of their women would sell themselves to get here. If you love Filipinos that much, move there. We need a 20 year moratorium on immigration, from anywhere, period, even Western Europe since they’re all a bunch of socialistards these days.

    • Replies: @TRASH(NOT)
  200. @Thomm

    Aaaand as any white trashionalist wigger from 1994 could have predicted, another copy and paste reply from the Shiva of Sheboygan.

    Your lack of creativity in coming up with any kind of new low grade insult only enforces the stereotypes higher thinking people have of you and other dot bots.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  201. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Our local fast food places have been completely taken over by the immigrant horde. Service has gone from “What can I get for you today?” to “Fuck you, what do you want?”

  202. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jamie_NYC

    One thing I would appreciate on the Populist/Conservative/Republican side: lay off with blaming the Jews. Look at Ireland: it used to be the most conservative European country by far. Now, it’s flooded with third-world immigrants, the prime minister is a homosexual from Pakistan. Jews, really? No, they did this to themselves, and need to sober up before it’s too late.

    The brainwashing is complete in the UK/Ireland. The tribe’s done an amazing job taking over the media and academia, finance, law, politics, marrying themselves into British aristocracy after the industrial revolution when the British landed gentry lost their farmers to the factories and were going bankrupt. Brits are the biggest cucks in the world today, even more so than the French who are at least trying to enforce secularism and the French language. The Irish are just the poor man’s Brit, always trying to ape big brother even as they feign disdain.

  203. @mr meener

    Here’s another way to look at it. If illegal immigrants have around the same crime rate as white Americans, why do they need sanctuary cities?

    Sanctuary cities do not protect just immigration violators. SB-54 protects illegal immigrants who have driven drunk, tortured and abused animals and slapped their spouses around.

    So again, if the crime rate is the same, why the need for special treatment?

  204. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Who are the elites of CA who have beautiful homes with the ocean view? Jews, gays who run the movie or tech industries, finance, or law. They are well insulated from the immigrant horde they seek to import en masse, except when Juanita comes to clean their their house 2 days a week and Jose comes to mow the lawn.

    Who live inland? Middle class and poor whites who have to live with the immigrant horde.

  205. Anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:

    Hispanics are everywhere in Massachusetts. One city has 75,000 Hispanic residents. It’s a drug haven. Heroin is huge. So is cocaine.

    Hispanics are always getting arrested for selling drugs. It’s seems like their main occupation. Barber shops and selling fancy rims for shitty cars is another favorite.

    They are not so much into violent crime. Fighting isn’t a high priority. Knife and gun related crimes aren’t as popular as one might think.

    They are morally bankrupt. Committed monogamous relationships are not too common. Std’s are shared regularly and multiple pregnancies with various men is the norm.

    They abuse the welfare system. Section 8 puts a roof over nearly all their heads. Almost all are on food stamps.

    Litter is everywhere.

    They are materialistic. And poor. Not a sustainable combination.

    They eat like shit.

    Most do terrible in school. When your parents are too busy fucking the neighbor, or neighbors, this usually is the consequence.

    I don’t know what Hispanics are like in California. Seems Ron Unz is going to bat for them. I will admit, Hispanics in California seem more assimilated. They speak clear English.

    Nevertheless, a rising Hispanic population is not desirable. For their limited numbers, a seemingly high percentage are trash. I think well to do Hispanics know this. For this reason they marry whites. Well to do Hispanic women like white men.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  206. @anon

    “9 out of 10 are Indian scam artists looking to download all kinds of viruses on your machine”

    They’re entrepreneurial capitalists, in Ayn Rand’s playbook.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  207. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @The real Buddy Ray

    Brazil is only around 2% Asian, if Asian immigrants had moved into Brazil after the 1990s, the country would have acquired a very different character. So a California that is 40% white and 15% Asian doesn’t encounter the dysfunction, when you consider the settlement patterns in the state. The vast sums of tech/entertainment industry wealth, and foreign capital surging into real estate, means that you can buy off far more people than Lula ever could with the Bolsa Familia.

    The money dries up, this all changes. Ron is clueless to think that the border is a Magic Line that causes Hispanics to depart from the rampant criminality in their homelands. This “Hispanics don’t crime” ignores the countries with the highest homicide rates in the world. And its not as if you need large amounts of violence to distribute drugs.

    Should I forget to mention the top income tax rate of 13%.

    Change the demographics back.

    • Replies: @Anon
  208. anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    No that would be *much* harder than the EO I mentioned, one that denies future visa/green card/citizenship for any non-citizen who voted.

  209. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    And there is another factor, the white population is in absolute decline and there has been substantial outmigration to other states. When there is nowhere to run, you’ve got a cornered animal.

    Perma-left rule at the national level means gun confiscation, explicit anti-white quotas, and even ANC-style “land reform” could be on the offing. Even at the low end, the country is set to see increased extremist violence, with a probable police state.

    Some people truly must not care, feeling they will be dead by then, or either they or their children will have a ethnic-religious supermajority state in the Middle East that will welcome them. Or for the “principled anti-zionists” Singapore will be their new home.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  210. Lies, damned lies and statistics.

    Thanks Ron, for all of the above.

    Treason trials.
    Expulsion.
    Sovereign money
    End Parasitism.

  211. ron needs to see a shrink for his autism.

  212. @Ron Unz

    I discussed all this evidence at considerable length in my article, along with the numerous follow-up columns that addressed various responses and critiques.

    autism is incredibly sad!

  213. immigration is NOT a purely fact based political discourse.

    it’s also an aesthetic discourse.

    autistic people have NO sense of beautiful and ugly and therefore have nothing to say.

  214. biff21 says:

    Ron:

    You make some good points. Clearly illegal immigrant crime is not the huge issue that Trump insinuates that it is. It is something that is designed to rile up voters.

    No doubt your work on opposing “bilingual education” a couple decades ago helped society in CA overall. Thank you for that.

    However, you are apparently stuck in the mode (it’s easy for all of us to do) of defending your accomplishments and research results (with respect to hispanic crime, etc.) and not looking at the big picture. You are also (as it’s also easy for us to do) observing the current CA system (largely still functional) and not seeing what things will be like in the very near future (not functional).

    I know life in CA is still great for you and your contemporaries who don’t have to work anymore (recently heard a 70 year old multi-millionaire who bought his mansion decades ago gushing idiotically about how good it was that property tax is low in CA–he’s probably paying less than a tenth of the amount a new purchaser would have to pay every year). However, it has been getting progressively worse here for would be members of the middle class for several generations (the current group of 30 year olds can’t even dream of owning a home, and so contents itself with some fun gadgets and modest food experiences). They aren’t forming families, so they won’t be able to contribute to the future of the state.

    The thing is, the trend is not going to change. The (largely Republian) middle class that pays huge taxes and keeps things afloat will continue to disintegrate and get replaced. The wealthy elite can afford to virtue signal a bit more, but they won’t be willing to shoulder the massively increasing tax burdens that are baked in with the demographic change. Inequality isn’t getting better, it’s getting much worse.

    At some point, when the money truly runs out (and we’re already very close), things start to collapse and we start to get more South/Central American style issues. We’re not there yet, but to pretend we’re not clearly heading in that direction, primarily due to mass immigration and demographic replacement, means you are really out of touch.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  215. map says:

    Ron Unz,

    There is a large mistake here in interpreting the results of the election and the status of immigration in the debate. Everything is a question of priorities.

    Exit polls show that the number one concern of those surveyed was healthcare. Immigration and the economy jockeyed between second and third, but healthcare was the biggest issue.

    The takeaway is that Paul Ryan lost the House for Donald Trump. Why? Entitlement Reform. Meaning, Ryan wanted cuts in social security, medicare, repealing ObamaCare without a replacement, etc. Once again, the austerity fixation of the Republican Party undid the House Republicans. Nobody wants cuts in entitlements because there are people who depend on those entitlements. You can make the case that the country can’t afford it, but, you will lose. And, so, the Republicans lost this election.

    What Ron Unz and a lot of people on this site lack is the ability to think “on the margin.” The “margin” comes from marginal utility, the level of satisfaction derived from some unit of additional consumption. Satisfaction goes down the more I have, until I hit the marginal point. Change occurs at the margin. Millions upon millions of people will consistently vote either Republican or Democrat, but it is the marginal voter that ultimately decides who wins. This marginal voter is largely indifferent to the wonkish policy issues that consume others. They are practical. They ask: “What do I gain, what do I lose, and what happens now?” To these people, the message of Paul Ryan’s entitlement reform was a danger to them. They did not want it. Beyond losing the incumbent advantage of 45 Republicans resigning, the Republicans that won primaries followed Ryan in his entitlement reform agenda. This was a death sentence for those Republicans.

    Notice that Trump knows how to think on the margin. He is on record stating that he will not cut social security, medicare or any of the entitlements. He believes people worked and earned this. In fact, I doubt Trump even wanted to go after ObamaCare, but was roped into it by Ryan. With those Republicans gone, he will be able to push large chunks of his agenda.

    This is, in many ways, the same process that Obama went through. Obama was elected in 2008 by the marginal voter to fix the economy after it collapsed under the machinations of the Federal Reserve. Instead, he pushed ObamaCare. By 2010, the economy was still a mess, so the marginal voter put the Republicans back in to fix the economy. Instead, they went after ObamaCare. By this time, bad economic conditions made ObamaCare more popular because people could still have health insurance even if they are unemployed. Instead of realizing this, the Republicans fielded Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan as candidates in the 2012 election…who then pushed repealing ObamaCare.
    We’ve now had eight years of a Republican Congress doing things at odds with what people wanted.
    Enter Trump in 2016 as the candidate to fix the economy…he then proceeded to fix the economy, although not early enough, having, once again, the Republicans pushing austerity measures over ObamaCare. This is what turned the House Democrat.

    Unz is wrong to imagine that there is some kind of comity between Hispanics and Whites in California. It’s just that that issue is not as important as the healthcare issue. Immigration does not loom as the immediate problem. So, if you want immigration to be an issue, then you have to take healthcare off the table as a concern. You do that by removing the elements where ObamaCare fails, like the individual mandate, and you leave the elements where it works, like pre-existing conditions.

    Trump’s single biggest problem has been other Republicans that don’t want to push policies that achieve economic growth and then use that growth to pay for entitlements. They are simply obsessed with “balancing the budget” like autistic bean counters. That will never work.

    Likewise, the marginal voter did not put Democrats in Congress to run around and investigate Trump. They want to fixes to healthcare.

    The American people are not going to sacrifice their standard of living, in terms of either tax cuts, entitlement benefits, or both, just to fix something they do not even control, like The Budget.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  216. anastasia says:

    I would have to agree that violent crime is simply not the bag of the hispanic community. Many of them are Christian and have a work ethic, but I would look at the statistics for deaths by drunk driving, or other type of reckless or negligent conduct while living in a more complex society. I think you will see a different picture. The hispanic people know how to work; they know how to feed their children; they can provide shelter. Many are farmers and were not and are not dependent upon their corrupt states for these services, but as far as living in a complex society, they simply cannot do it. They do not pay taxes; they do not get driver’s licenses, they do not obtain health care insurance, whether or not there is an “individual mandate.”
    They simply do not do it, and that has a deleterious effect on a country’s economy. That has not been their experience in their own countries, and that experience and way of life follows them to America. In my opinion, we will see many more wildfires in California.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  217. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for the reply, Ron.

    Assuming that’s fairly average, they probably provide 1,000 cases each year of whites murdered by blacks.

    That’s no way to do business, but that 1,000 number is probably good within 50%. I say that, because I looked up and saw 17,000 murders and non-negligible manslaughters* in ’17. Taking some rough numbers that I’ve learned from VDare, Paul Kersey, Sailer,etc., blacks commit somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/2 of all of these. Make it 8,000 and then figure, also purely from my memory of my reading, that whites may be the victim 10% or so of the time. That does get me in your range, so we agree here, possibly by accident. ;-}

    I completely agree that the Hispanic number is a good deal lower than that of blacks, but others have written above, that it’s still significantly higher than whites, and that’s not counting the DUI manslaughter. However, I will read your article sometime soon, I promise.

    Well, Kate Steinle was a totally unknown young woman until she was killed by an illegal and therefore became world famous.

    I believe you’re missing a step on this one, called “Donald Trump”. It was especially egregious because the man had been deported to the south MULTIPLE TIMES, Ron, and he WAS BAAAACK, like the Poltergeist. That’s a major portion of the reason Donald Trump highlighted the case. Yes, the media, in this case on the right, will play up one instance of some problem, and oftentimes it is hysterical. That’s not the case with this, as Americans already knew Hispanics bring additional crime (along with all the rest – see my 1st 4 comments).

    Let me compare this to the summer of 2001, just before 9/11. The big infotainment, besides the killing of a girl in Washington FS who happened to be the girlfriend of a Congressman, was sharks biting people. Yes, that was sharks biting people. See, now it was big entertainment, but people are wise enough to think “hey, listen, I’ve never known a single soul to get attacked by a shark, and we live on the beach. This happens once a month, in the whole country, so this is just entertainment.” Notice that people neither really left the beaches en masse nor cried out for a “war on sharks” (though, granted, that’d be a blast, IMO!)

    They understand that the Hispanic invasion is a REAL problem in many ways, because they know personally of it. The highlighting of a couple of egregious cases, though definitely the usual Media Infotainment, gave people a chance to speak out, and they did.

    My guess is that there are hundreds of anti-immigrant activists constantly on the lookout for any ordinary white person murdered by a Hispanic illegal, who then work very hard to ensure that the homicide reaches the national headlines, while ignoring nearly all of the 15,000 other annual homicides.

    Yeah, they may compile these for their own stats, but they sure can’t publish them all. There would be no space for other articles – I’m thinking specifically of VDare here. They’ll put an occasional horrible case as a story, but it’s not their bread-and-butter. It would get old.

    .
    .

    * I’m pretty sure that’s cases in which weapons were use (including fists) to attempt to hurt but not kill, but then the victim did get killed. They may as well be murder, and probably many were, but were plea-bargained down.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  218. MissLucy says:

    I would also suggest people read this for a dose of reality.

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/real-immigration-crisis-coming-america-sooner-you-think-35017

    Excerpt: Latin America is already incredibly violent. As a report this spring from the Igarape Institute detailed, seventeen of the twenty countries on Earth with the highest murder rates are Latin American, as are forty-three of the fifty most violent cities. Honduras, where this caravan originated, is one of the most violent countries on earth. Tegucigalpa has a murder rate that is twenty times the size of London’s murder rate.

    Neighboring El Salvador is even worse. In 2015 it became the most violent country on earth not at war . Though homicides have fallen significantly since then El Salvador still has the highest murder rate in Central America. Nicaragua is far safer at the moment but President Daniel Ortega has unleashed paramilitaries and pro-government vigilantes on his political opponents. He will continue to rule by the gun, with predictable consequences for Nicaraguans.

    The picture to both the north and south is not much better. Mexico is a stable middle-income country with a GDP over $1 trillion. It also remains mired in a brutal drug war and is on its way to the most violent year in its modern history. Cuba is isolated and ignored, but regime collapse or an epidemic could precipitate a new Cuban refugee flotilla off Florida’s shores. Like Mexico, Brazil broke its own grim murder record with 63,880 homicides in 2017. The country duly elected a far-right law and order authoritarian, Jair Bolsonaro, as president this week.

    Venezuela, of course, makes Brazil look like paradise. Over two million Venezuelan refugees have left their country since 2014, as its self-imposed economic and political crisis has deepened. America is lucky that most of them are trying to get to Medellin, not Miami.

    It is the long-term trajectory of Latin America that should really worry Americans. There is little reason for optimism about the future of most countries in the Western Hemisphere. While globalization and a winners-take-all economy are hollowing out America’s middle class, these dynamics are likely to have catastrophic effects on Latin America’s even more unequal societies. The ongoing Fourth Industrial Revolution will stall and reverse many of the gains poorer countries have made through comparative advantage and globalization. A great deal of manufacturing will probably return to the United States and Europe, particularly if political or environmental events cause significant disruptions to global supply chains.

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  219. @L. Ron Cosby

    L Ron Cosby said: “ron needs to see a shrink for his autism.”

    Hey L. Ron Cosby!

    Re; Your screen name, a queer mix of Hubbard & Bill. You are a real clipper, kid!

    At any rate, as Ron Unz likely has done, I advise you to consult Dr. William Pierce (video linked below) who gave an address on Jewish foreboding about the loyalty of the new wave of “U.S.” immigrants & their possible hesitance to pay homage to Israeli demands.

    Selah, “shrinks” blind to their own shrunken heads, untouched by autism.

  220. @DB Cooper

    The same applies to you too… we don’t need no chinaman over here!

  221. @Achmed E. Newman

    Geographic variables.

    You have to factor in white flight. Whites would be dying in Detroit at epidemic rates if the majority of them had not simply sold their houses and moved a generation ago.

    What generally happens in the Rust Belt (Perhaps the South is different) is that there is some period where an area becomes dangerous for whites and they leave and then crimes against whites decrease because there are no longer any whites around. Haiti, for example, had a brief period of genocide against French but they simply got on boats and left. So of course these days, there are very few crimes against whites in Haiti. They were either killed or left.

    These days in the US, most whites are set upon by Cholos or Hood Rats IN TRANSIT. Another words, they are on the street at a bus stop or walking somewhere and happen to cross their path. They don’t know the assailants or who they are. They are simply passing by in an area where there is overlap.

    I knew a few reformed white crack heads. And these folks, who hang around ghettos by choice, get robbed or gang-raped all the time. Most whites who become crack addicts stop because of the potential for black violence against them.

  222. @Thomm

    D B Cooper is a chinaman, you dumb arse!

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    , @Thomm
  223. “When I first moved to Palo Alto a quarter century ago, neighboring East Palo Alto had the highest per capita murder rate in America, but after a vast wave of immigrant Hispanics transformed its demographics, the homicide rate fell by some 97%.” Yes, East Palo Alto is as Black as Congresswoman Maxine Waters. I would never live in the South due to the high % of criminal Blacks.
    I love Mexican culture and women, my only objection to illegals is the cost burden to taxpayers.

    Many Mexicans believe in socialist type of taxpayer paid benefits. Since I am in the top 3% of income, I have to pay for it.

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  224. @dvorak

    He would miss it the same way you would if you’re to go Ultra-orthodox…

  225. Them Guys says:
    @Agent76

    It was the Arab OPEC Oil Embargo on Oil that caused gasoline shortages, and in Mich the same thing. Odd Vs Even Lic Plate to buy gas every Other day only. In Mich it also caused a 10 Gal Limit per day. It was nationwide IIRC. And royally fucked up everything. Guys who used a pick up Tank full or more every day due to a lot of suburban jobs in one day, or due to had several workers in truck, and had to take workers out to different distant job sites…Got screwed badly and were unable to continue working those jobs. I cannot now recall every detail but it sure did mess up our entire nation until ended. But wasn’t that Jimmy Carters screw ups caused it? Also back then a typical ford/chevy/dodge pick up truck got just 10 MPG….Very easy to burn thru a tank full per day.

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  226. MarkinLA says:
    @Ron Unz

    Why do they have to be illegals? What about the crimes committed by the children of illegals? In addition, a lot of murders go unsolved to the point that they don’t even know who the killer is, you can only guess based on the vicinity where it happened. An illegal who kills somebody and runs back to Mexico isn’t likely to ever be identified.

    This in general is the problem with a lot of Hispanic crime. If somebody breaks into your house in Palmdale, it is a good bet it was done by a black or Hispanic but since nobody was caught, you will never know.

    There seems to be more than 9 in just February alone in here:

    http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/2018/02/page/2/

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    , @Them Guys
  227. @Anonymous

    So, you think there are no Jews South of the border… how tragic!

  228. Anonymous[172] • Disclaimer says:

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    , @Anon
  229. G. Poulin says:
    @Jamie_NYC

    Sober up? This is Ireland we’re talking about. Hasn’t been sober in five hundred years.

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  230. @L. Ron Cosby

    You must be autistic yourself to recognize it so readily; perhaps, your shrink can try to help him. What say you?

  231. DB Cooper says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    Haha two desis fighting each other. Hey Thomm is higher Caste than your dumb arse! He’s going to whip you with those stick. See the clip I posted earlier.

  232. @anastasia

    Blacks are Christians as well, so, Christian business is moot and as to deaths from drunk-driving, it’s the indios thing… something about drinking the white man’s fire-water!

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  233. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:

    The future of America: United States of MexChindia run by Jews under sharia law.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  234. So in essence: lie back and think of … ??? … Mexico?

  235. FKA Max says: • Website
    @The Alarmist

    I wonder how much of the “white-on-Hispanic” violent crime is committed by Hispanics identifying as white, since that rate seems rather high?

    During 2012-15, the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. [...] Information on Hispanic origin of offenders was not collected prior to 2012.

    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/rhovo1215pr.cfm

    Hispanic Identity Fades Across Generations as Immigrant Connections Fall Away

    11% of American adults with Hispanic ancestry do not identify as Hispanic

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2017/12/20/hispanic-identity-fades-across-generations-as-immigrant-connections-fall-away/

    More Hispanics Declaring Themselves White

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/upshot/more-hispanics-declaring-themselves-white.html

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  236. vinteuil says: • Website

    Consider that blogger Steve Sailer is a California native who moved back to live in his hometown of Los Angeles around twenty years ago. While he was growing up, that city was among the whitest in America, but for the last couple of decades the population has been half Hispanic, with white Europeans probably constituting no more than 20% of the total. Racially- or ideologically-charged topics are his primary focus, especially those connected with politics. But although his posts regularly deal with all sorts of national controversies, in recent years he has only very rarely written anything about Los Angeles politics or California issues in general.

    Wow. You write as if you’d never met Steve Sailer and never read anything he’s ever written.

  237. @Ron Unz

    Sorry Ron I stand by my original reply. I’ve never met a physicist that understood statistics and you have shown that to be true: 1) if the original data were wrong in terms of processing it by authorities who wish to hide something you just compounded it by averaging it. 2) No one lives in an average. If you live in a specific area with a large population of such people then you are at a greater probability for damage even though the entire area may show something else statistically.

    Furthermore, does homicide by drunken illegals count in your statistics? You can’t find ten? Here’s a link: http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp

    What do you think now? How about murder by bad drugs which are laced with blood thinners and other things that have occurred in my area? You have made a lot of money in your life and that’s fine because you have appeared to make it legally which is something too many Corporatists and Politicians have not. However, you seem to lack an understanding of how the rest of the country lives. Their jobs have been taken by people from other countries who will work for one-third of their salary and you expect them to survive. There is no equal distribution of jobs across the country. There is no average. These people have degrees in things like IT and Computer Programming. Many of the corporations who do this stuff have almost 100% imported workers which is illegal but no one cares. They have families. What are they supposed do just pack up and leave the area until it’s done again to them?

    You have people who work in Silicon Valley living in their cars. In academia Jews completely control the hiring at almost every level. They are now coming for the STEM people who disagree with them about politics. Some departments are entirely Jewish and no goy need apply.

    You lack a serious understanding of social-economic and biogeochemical pathways of a society. One is about behavior in the marketplace and the other is about the environmental damage we do to the planet. Both of these pathways are hemorrhaging from the overload. This overload is caused by overpopulation which no one wants to talk about. The economists’ view of population has nothing to do with reality and is based on theories against the laws of nature. We have water treatments plants that are ready to collapse throughout the US and no money to pay for upgrades. Our infrastructure has never been upgraded in over 60 years. We risk disease and death and a CDC which no longer even uses standard microbiological standards and protocols to access risk from inputs in the system by people crossing the border. The CDC has become reactive rather than proactive which means they are no active. Yet we have 378 billion to give to Israel over the next 10 years and they are the people who push this overload of immigration on us.

    Basically you are saying we are no longer a Sovereign Nation and you think in Globalist Fantasies. There are no Utopias from the damaging of these pathways only Hells and they may come a lot quicker than anyone thinks. I would love to put 10,000 illegals in the Hamptons, however, we know that will never happen because just like a company that pollutes your environment the damage is externalized to us….the middle class. But that’s what you think is okay from all the damage immigration both legal and illegal does ….it’s externalized to mainly the middle class. And what you are really saying is that the Rich will rule the Country and the rest of us can go fuck ourselves because you rich bastards want a cheap maid and cheap labor.

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  238. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Time for AZ to start a serious voter registration audit. A large number of people voting in AZ are illegals, same goes for TX, FL, CA, WA, NY, MA…all the blue states, but the fraud is now bleeding into red states like GA.

  239. @Reuben Kaspate

    “Indios thing”

    I knew a few Mexican college kids at Tempe, Arizona from Mexico City. They were all white and mostly descended from Spanish immigrants who’d recently arrived fleeing the Franco regime.

    One was named Fernie. He was studying to be an architect.

    It was explained to me by these Mexicans that once the amount of Indian blood rose above 1/8 that the person began to have design flaws.

  240. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Look up “Angel Moms” on the web, they are mothers of children who have been murdered by illegals, and they are a large group.

    More if you count those who were killed by drug addiction — drugs brought in by Hispanic drug mules across our Southern border.

  241. Anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    1. Mr. Unz likes Hispanics because they push out blacks, or at least that’s an impression I get.

    2. (?) I really don’t know what other motivating factors he has, other than not disliking Hispanics and either thinking they will assimilate or not caring that much.

  242. @MarkinLA

    “GETTING AWAY WITH IT” An Exploration of IQ

    A white serial killer will prepare for a month. Dahmer, for example. Bundy would X off days on his calendar and spent an entire month preparing for the crime.

    The Italians also go to great lengths. Nobody is ever going to know who exactly killed Hoffa, for example.

    In the case of blacks, the crime is spur of the moment. The black tells 10 people he intends to “hit a lick” and attempts to trawl for accomplices. Two or three of them turn him down and these will inevitably inform on the police when they are arrested for some minor charge in order to avoid going to jail.

    If you watch FIRST 48 the most common thing the black does is sell the cell phone. So the police call the victims cell phone and find out who sold it to them.

    Moreover, cameras tend to record the crime.

    The Mexican is equally likely to commit an impulsive crime but they are over the border in 12 hours.

  243. Dumbo says:
    @Prof Watson

    “I love Mexican culture and women, my only objection to illegals is the cost burden to taxpayers. ”

    See, that’s the problem right there. White Americans may not like blacks, but they love Mexicans. They love tacos, they love mariachis, they love Latinx women, they love cheap labor and cheap Mexican drugs. In the long (or not so long) run, the U.S. will become like Latin America, a white (and Jewish) minority at the top and the brown masses everywhere else. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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  244. Lurker says:
    @mr meener

    Thomm is an Indian snake charmer. FYI.

  245. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:

    GOP’s #1 problem: Illegal voting by non-citizens.

    Address that head on and GOP will win 2020, otherwise, they can kiss the WH goodbye.

  246. utu says:

    Latinos are murdered in California at twice the rate of whites (5.1 per 100,000 compared to 2.4). The homicide rate is even higher for Latinos under age 30 (6.1), and Latinos — of any age — are more likely to have been killed by strangers in California than whites are (40.5% versus 26.1% of homicide victims). (June 2014).

    I do not know if this is true or not. But if it is then it can be safely concluded that Latinos commit murder at 2 times higher rate than white.

    ______________
    How do you explain this if not for increased of population?

    San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles-Arroyo Grande, Calif. – 5-yr. violent crime rate change: +58.7%

  247. geokat62 says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Crime angle is irrelevant and silly.
    It is cultural and political angle that is devastating.

    Precisely! As the concluding paragraph of one of his previous articles underscored, Ron was very concerned about the ramifications of “the End of White America”:

    America today stands as one of the very few examples in history of a large and successful multiethnic society. If we are to continue and extend our success—which is hardly foreordained—we can only do so by returning to the core principles of Propositions 209 and 227: ethnic assimilation, and individual equality under the law. Otherwise, we face the very real threat of future movements along the lines of Proposition 187, each worse than the last, and on a national scale. There are few forces that could so easily break America as the coming of white nationalism.

    He argued that America’s viability depended on which of two drastically different future paths the American people would choose:

    Two alternate futures present themselves—which might be labeled the new American melting pot and the coming of white nationalism—and the recent politics of California lends some plausibility to each. America’s continued viability as a nation may well depend upon which of these two paths we choose

    Given the high stakes involved, not sure why Ron is now choosing to downplay the cultural/political angle in favour of, as you say, the “irrelevant and silly” crime angle. I wish he’d concentrate on the former angle a little more.

    Excerpts from, California and the End of White America: In the state that is a laboratory of our ethnic future, the choices about to confront us as a nation:

    [MORE]

    Two alternate futures present themselves—which might be labeled the new American melting pot and the coming of white nationalism—and the recent politics of California lends some plausibility to each. America’s continued viability as a nation may well depend upon which of these two paths we choose…

    But the ideology that evolved to justify these programs also radically changed the terms of the American social compact, replacing the emphasis on assimilation with an emphasis on ethnic difference.

    Two further events occurred simultaneously with the completion of the old American racial agenda, and they drastically magnified the impact of this ideological change: the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act, which reopened America to large-scale immigration after a 40-year hiatus…

    Over the past 30 years and at a growing pace, more than 25 million new immigrants—80 percent of non-European origin—have entered America, and they and their descendants now constitute a rapidly growing fraction of our total population.

    Well over half of these new immigrants have been Hispanic, and this ethnic group—today defined in racial terms, with all the attendant special treatment under official government policies—will by itself represent between 20 and 25 percent of America by the middle of the approaching century, at which point Americans of European origin will have become a minority of the population…

    Since the 1960’s, the deepening ideological decay of the American melting pot, especially among the journalists and intellectuals who shape our thoughts, has transformed our official self-image from that of a nation of individuals living in a common culture into that of a nation of groups arrayed against one another in an ethnic spoils system. Multiculturalism and “diversity” thoroughly dominate our nation’s schools and politics and public discourse, encouraging minorities to exercise influence through the mobilization of ethnic or racial grievance. Under this framework, the rise of a similar ethnic-grievance movement among America’s emerging white minority is likely, perhaps inevitable.

    Already there are early warning signs of such a movement… Although so far these developments and others like them are minuscule, and the individuals involved make every effort to avoid even a hint of extremism, evolving white-bloc politics could eventually develop a white-nationalist orientation or fringe…

    But surface appearances are deceiving. Underlying social dynamics, whether in California or in the nation at large, have not changed, and ethnic conflict, temporarily submerged, has far from disappeared. To the contrary, given the nature of the demographic processes now at work in the country, the potential for such conflict is growing rather than diminishing, and any sudden crack in our unprecedented economic prosperity might well be the occasion for its revival…

    It is therefore a tragedy of the first order that, even as the reality of the American melting pot remains as powerful as ever, the ideology behind it has almost disappeared, having been replaced by the “diversity” model and by the politics of grievance. A social ideology that allots to blacks and Latinos and Asians their own separatist institutions and suggested shares of society’s benefits cannot long be prevented from extending itself to whites as well, especially as whites become merely one minority among many minorities. Before it is altogether too late, those who support this status quo must realize that the diversity prescription contains the seeds of national dissolution.

    America today stands as one of the very few examples in history of a large and successful multiethnic society. If we are to continue and extend our success—which is hardly foreordained—we can only do so by returning to the core principles of Propositions 209 and 227: ethnic assimilation, and individual equality under the law. Otherwise, we face the very real threat of future movements along the lines of Proposition 187, each worse than the last, and on a national scale. There are few forces that could so easily break America as the coming of white nationalism.

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/

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    , @Them Guys
  248. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nawi

    Per The Economist:

    https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2017/03/31/the-worlds-most-dangerous-cities

    El Salvador, Mexico, Honduras, Brazil, Guatemala, South Africa, USA(New Orleans, Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis-all black heavy cities), Columbia, Puerto Rico, Jamaica.

    Check your own blinders.

  249. CalDre says:

    Automatic U.S. citizenship for all children born here, regardless of the legal status of their parents, has been settled constitutional law for well over a century, and nearly all legal experts have held that it was guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment, as later confirmed by a 19th century Supreme Court ruling.

    One needs to read legal language carefully. Differences in language choice imply differences in intent and meaning. Granted, with the gay marriage, abortion, sodomy, birth control and countless other dictatorial decrees the US Supreme Court has issued, the Constitution’s text is largely irrelevant, but, let’s take a quick look at the Fourteenth Amendment.

    It’s purpose was to grant citizenship to freed slaves. Look at the precise language of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States”. Note the use of the present tense. This is critical. Virtually every other Amendment, and every other Section of the Fourteenth Amendment, uses the future tense, “shall be“. Indeed, the current citizenship statute (which Trump cannot overrule, so his Executive Order “solution” is nonsense nonetheless) at 8 USC 1201 provides that “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth”.

    This difference in tense is not a “minor” distinction. It is there because Congress wanted to irrevocably grant all freed slaves citizenship, particularly in light of the infamous Dred Scott decision which had made freed slaves and their progeny ineligible for citizenship, but not tie hands of future Congress’ regarding future birth-right citizenship of other folks. Indeed Congress has traditionally legislated citizenship policy by statute.

    Of course the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), “missed” this “nuance”, for whatever reason. But that court did rely on principles of common law, which are always subject to the laws of the sovereign (Congress), plus Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment grants Congress powers to enforce it. Thus an act of Congress could override birthright citizenship (though whether or not the Supreme Dictators would recognize that is another issue).

  250. Anon[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @dvorak

    His IQ is not high enough for him to miss anything.

    • Replies: @anon
  251. Rurik says:

    it’s about a lot more than just crime.

    It’s about that dreamed of critical mass when White people become a powerless minority in the lands they formerly controlled. See Kosovo, when the Serbs let the Muslims in. Or Rhodesia or S. Africa or Haiti when those lands gave up White rule. The same thing is intended for N. America (and Europe and everywhere else dormant Nazis languish)

    As for crime records, it seems when Hispanics are arrested, they more often than not are designated as ‘white’, obviously in order to skew the racial statistics on crime and race for the greater Agenda.

    Since Nikolas Cruz is back in the news, having registered to vote in jail, (Florida just voted to allow convicted felons to vote once they finish their sentences),

    If we take a look at the current arrest records in that county, (Broward) what will we find vis-a-vis racial designations for arrest records.

    (Cruz was allowed a free reign by all the local authorities because he was considered a sacrosanct, eternal-victim Hispanic minority, but once he was arrested, became ‘white’, of course – and was even called [dishonestly] a ‘white supremacist’ by the ADL and ((msm)).

    These are the local arrests for that county, (Broward) and there is a designation for Hispanic,

    Here’s one designated as ‘Hispanic’

    [MORE]


    Moises Galindo Ortiz

    Now here’s a short list of some designated as ‘white’


    Juan Urbina Martinez
    RACE
    White


    Jhonatan Cortes Sambony
    RACE
    White


    Nicolas Domingo
    RACE
    White


    William Morales
    RACE
    White


    Xiomara Mestas
    RACE
    White

    these ‘mistakes’ are never made in the reverse, and (obvious) Hispanics are more often than not designated as ‘White’.

    I wonder why that is?


    Victor Sanchez-Salas
    RACE
    White


    Luis Ramirez
    RACE
    White

    http://mugshots.sun-sentinel.com/broward

    The agenda is obviously to skew the statistics to create a false narrative in order to make Americans more sanguine about their eventual demographic disenfranchisement/replacement.

    And this is a near universal paradigm unofficially enforced across the entire spectrum of a dying ((murdered)) Western civilization. Whether it’s Hispanic in N. America, or Muslims and Africans and Asians in Europe.

    The imperative is that the White people of the West must perish under a human tsunami of non-whites – that will permanently and irrevocably deliver Western civilization and its people to their ultimate doom and vanish them from the pages of history.

    Their accomplishments and travails, sagas and follies, to be erased from the pages of history for all time, and replaced with a devil’s narrative that denigrates and demonizes them, to the glory and vanity of those who intend to replace them.

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    , @Them Guys
  252. CalDre says:
    @niteranger

    the Rich will rule the Country and the rest of us can go fuck ourselves because you rich bastards want a cheap maid and cheap labor.

    Not sure Ron is one of them, but yeah, that’s about how it is, and always has been. If the “middle class” wanted something different they need to get up off their asses and take it – cuz nobody is giving it to them on a silver platter. Life is a struggle and wimps lose. You write about nature. That’s about as natural as it gets. And think about the struggle of someone walking from Honduras, kids in tow, all the way to the US border, on the slim hope they might get in to take one of those terrible jobs an American wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole. Talk about hard work and risk-taking. US middle class is too fat and comfy for any of it.

    There was a time when the Leftists said they represented “the worker”. Well obviously they are far form that now – they have done nothing but undermined the worker for the last 30 years. Thing is, they will do the same thing to the gays, the Latinos and anyone else at the end of the day. Because they have no loyalty except one: to seize control of the planet for the Illuminati. That is the one and only goal and however they need to get there, they will get there. But if you read the Protocols, how they are getting there has long been planned. And while the evidence is overwhelming and obvious, this “middle class” of dipshits you write about is busy attacking anyone who has read the Protocols as an anti-Semite and deplorable.

    Under Drawin’s law, the White middle class simply deserves to die. Stupidity has consequences.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  253. @Achmed E. Newman

    ” You have a real good handle on the modern convenience-store industry, especially the work done that Americans will not doo-doo. ”

    Sadly, I’m not sure that is necessarily a compliment, but thanks for your support. Based on my profession, I see all too many of them.

  254. MarkinLA says:
    @geokat62

    So in response to minorities insistence of a racial spoils system Ron thinks the answer is for whites to never respond in kind?

  255. Ron, I doubt I could ever win you over to my side by a pure racial argument, but population swells should be enough to make you anti-immigrant. When I was in SoCal, even with the 6 lane freeways, the traffic was out of the world. As you pointed out housing costs are astronomical, and most importantly the environment has taken a huge it with all the people.

    • Replies: @CalDre
  256. llloyd says: • Website
    @BB753

    The white population in New Zealand is about the same proportion and numbers as the Jewish population in Israel. That leaves open the question what exactly are the white population in New Zealand. There are so called Maoris taking advantage of racial privilege who are completely white. Starting from about the 1980s, the white population basically rolled over. Not because they are weak or guilt infused but because generally they are so stupid. New Zealand is a good test model for what happens when a white population does not take at least a reasonable stand for its history and identity. The back lash via social media has come. But I am afraid I think it is too late. New Zealand will go the way of Fiji. And the fault is not the Maoris, not the Joos. The fault is the asinine stupidity of the white population.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  257. @Dumbo

    My feeling is that like Miami the Jews and Anglos would be driven out and the “Hacienda” system of Basque/Andalusian/Canary Islander castizos or Criollo would take over.

  258. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Here the full report:

    Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15

    https://web.archive.org/web/20181113015302/https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

    And another interesting statistic:

    Hispanic victims are more likely to be killed by a stranger than the national average. For 2015, when the victim-to-offender relationship could be identified, 39 percent of Hispanic homicide victims were killed by a stranger. Nationwide, 25 percent of all homicide victims were killed by strangers.

    http://vpc.org/press/nearly-54000-hispanics-killed-with-guns-in-u-s-since-1999-two-thirds-of-deaths-are-homicides-study-finds/

    Possibly this is due to cartel-related killings/hits that affect Hispanics more than whites and blacks?

    Drug cartel hitman confesses to up to 40 murders in US

    A self-confessed drug cartel hitman has told police he killed up to 40 people, mostly in California, in a murder spree that lasted three decades.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/10758166/Drug-cartel-hitman-confesses-to-up-to-40-murders-in-US.html

    I Killed 36 People

    Eight unsolved murders in Pike County, Ohio

    Whoever did it is everyone’s guess. Joe wondered aloud about it being a hit by the Mexican cartels, a theory that’s been suggested by everyone from AG DeWine to the local media, even amateur online detectives. The area, all the way up to Dayton, is a well-trodden drug corridor. State authorities recently announced the Sinaloa Cartel had a fentanyl scheme in the city of Middletown, and the Cincinnati Enquirer recently won a Pulitzer for chronicling the community’s heroin epidemic.https://theoutline.com/post/4973/pike-county-murders-ohio-rhoden-family-unsolved-2018

    How Mexican drug cartels do business in Ohio

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  259. Ed says:

    I don’t think the issue is Hispanic voters. Their turnout was not unusually large nor did it skew more towards the Dems this year.

    The only force able to shift votes dramatically are white voters. Whites in suburbs shifting towards Dems this cycle. Dems ran to parity with voters over 45 they usually are down a couple of points.

    Republicans and Trump are at a disadvantage that their policies don’t lend themselves to the empty, hollow virtue signalling rhetoric that appeals to suburban white woman. In fact Trump’s bellicosity “triggers” them. Trump at least acknowledges he should tone it down. Whether he follows through though is unlikely.

    • Replies: @map
  260. Them Guys says:
    @MissLucy

    Sounds like Americas military adventures in mid east regions, long ago needed to be switched to South and Central American nations. If they just must do carpet bombings around the clock in a forever war, it may be best if military focus on much closer to usa problems. Problems like your post describe.

    If we actually do soon see such massive non stop hoards of invaders from Central & South American nations, as well as constant invaders from Mexico…There wont be many other options than a hot war with those nations. Or at least Tons of usa military protecting our usa border via any and all means necessary. Up to and Including shooting invaders or bombing them a bit.

    We cannot simply look the other way and pretend it is not happening. That will cease as an option by the time we get our 3rd multi millions invader invasion. Maybe even sooner yet! Such a huge invasion would probably be the main event, equal to a dem libs gun bans and total confiscation of guns attempt. Which so far seems to be about the only major thing that would cause enough Whites to finally take matters into their own hands…To do as instructed in Declaration of Independence.

    IE: That section in DOI that explains how its our citizen Rights and Duty to, oust, over throw, replace with those of Our choice as new top officials etc….And there is only One real method or way to do that, and its not usually a peaceful event, especially for those traitorous officials being ousted.

    Of course up to that critical moment it begins in earnest, those officials still have the option to as they say…When they Feel the Very Hot Heat, they ironically See that Proverbial Light. And then to actually make good use of our well paid military personal and order them straight to our southern border to halt every single invader regardless of what the invaders sob story consists of.

    IMHO I do not believe that even if under threat a real public armed revolt potential happens, that many if any current crop of officials will really do the right thing and act upon invaders by usa military actions…However I do think they will order military against usa citizens when they head to the border to do the job. Traitors typically can be counted upon to do that without any qualms.

    If such events mandate an armed citizen action to defend the border, then it will likely look a lot like an 1880′s Cowboy Regulators actions, therefore I nominate the event name of…The 2019, Yipee Iya Kiyo Border Defensive.

  261. CalDre says:
    @Rurik

    While I generally think R Unz has good insights on this, I think you are right, that the statistics in this case do lie. All I need to do is compare crime rates in White Europe (even in very poor European countries) versus in Latin and South America – the disparity is staggering. You can do the same comparison between African crime rates and those of blacks in the US – except those come out closer because it’s more difficult to designate a black as “White” whereas is happens constantly with Hispanics, which drives up “White crime rates” and lowers “Hispanic crime rates”.

    As with any data crunching: garbage in, garbage out.

  262. CalDre says:
    @Shawn Returns

    It’s interesting, though, if you consider that Germany (138,000 m2, 82 million folks) is significantly smaller than, and has over twice the population of, California (156,000 m2, 40 million folks).

    The problem in California is there is a lot of desert and restrictions against building. They keep bringing in people by the millions but don’t build nearly enough new homes. On top of that they keep imposing new environmental regulations (such as every new house having to offer solar, etc.) that make construction costs impossible to afford. They want us all to live 8 to an apartment, as long as the rich get their sprawling mansions in their gated communities.

    But the dip-shit middle class keeps voting for it. One day they will suffer greatly for it and I will laugh, laugh, laugh. It will be the only moment of joy in the entire ride, when the dip-shit middle class finally has their Eureka “and it’s gone” moment.

  263. Them Guys says:
    @MarkinLA

    Good points…I recall not too long ago reading of how across the entire nation of American law enforcement, on average per year, barely 20% of Murderers ever get caught!…So figure that every year, you can Add another 80% of actual Murderers to an already huge number roaming the country side freely. And Never likely being caught. So, anybody here know actual avg yearly number of murders that occur? Was it something close to, 15,000 murders per year was stated in article or a reply post?….If yes..Then we can add, an apox. 12,000 Murderers that have not been caught, per year to what must already be a much larger number of outstanding never caught Murderers running around free as a bird…That’s a very scary thought. And once they do a murder, they have zero left to lose and are far more apt to murder again.

  264. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Most Mexicans and Central Americans in the US are not criminals. If anything, it could be that there are problems with excessive organized crime & violence in Mexico because too many people are overly nice and passive. Too many passive Guillermos and not enough Wild Bills to take a stand against the bad guys. So, bad guys run free and kill freely… like in THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN where the bandits push around the overly nice villagers, that is until white gringos arrive to protect them.

    Still, even if most Mexicans in the US are not criminal and tend to be reasonably law-abiding(perhaps even more than ‘white trash’ elements), their increasing presence tend toward social mediocrity and cultural lethargy. (Indeed, this seems to be Steve Sailer’s main gripe about Too Many Mexicans. They don’t turn LA into Detroit but nevertheless turn it into Guillermopolis.) Much of Mexican-areas in the Southwest may be stable, but it’s also so humdrum and ‘lame’. Is it good to have such a large mass of passive people without agency(except for leaving Mexico to live in the US)? Having lots of Mexican neighbors may be okay — and not dangerous like having black neighbors — , but it also means social and economic stasis. Mexicans follow but don’t lead. Also, even if these Mexicans don’t commit crime, the fact that many of them do depend on government assistance of some kind will have a long-term depressive effect on society. White Flight from black is due to violence and mayhem. Whites generally don’t run from browns on those grounds. But when Too Many Browns make for a depressed economy with low wages, many whites will leave just the same. The reason why white share of California population went down was not only because of mass immigration but mass flight to other states. So, obviously, the dramatic increase in Diversity meant something went wrong for many whites. It made them want to move out.

    Could the GOP have earned the loyalty of Mexicans if it weren’t anti-immigration in California under Pete Wilson? I doubt this. Even if GOP weren’t ‘anti-Mexican’ — these days, the mere opposition to more immigration is ‘xenophobic’ and ‘racist’ — , the fact is Democrats will always offer more in terms of government benefits and holy victim pokemon points. At most, GOP can offer Mexicans an equal playing field and chance to be good fellow Americans. In contrast, Democrats offer them more government aid, favorable affirmative action, and elevated status as a ‘victim group’. (Even though CA got rid of Affirmative Action, it lives on through many ‘holistic’ methods.) Of course, the majority of Mexicans will take the latter. It’s the same thing with Jews. GOP is even more pro-Israel than the Democratic Party. The likes of Bush and McCain were more brazenly servile to Zionism than Clinton was. But the fact is Democratic Party is sufficiently pro-Zionist, and besides, Jewish elites prefer the immigration-diversity policy of the Democrats because it ensures Jewish domination in yrs to come: Turning whites into just another gentile minority is good for Jewish domination, or so the Jews think. Whites won’t be able to politically or electorally gang up on Jewish power.

    Now, let’s suppose GOP could have won over tons of Mexicans by being Mex-friendly. Suppose Pete Wilson kissed brown babies all day long and suppose Texan GOP went full Jeb-Bush and hailed Mexicans and welcomed more brown immigrants. As a result, suppose the majority of Mexicans in Ca and Tx voted GOP, and in time, browns outnumbered whites.
    But in the end, for many white American patriots, it’s not about the Party but the Nation. What good is the GOP even if it wins elections IF it allows the browning of America? White patriots will take a white Democratic-ruled America over a brown Republican-ruled America. GOP is secondary to white patriotic interests. They support it because they see it as the less of two evils in the demographic transformation of America. If GOP was for mass-immigration and if Democrats were for preserving the racial composition of White America, most white patriots will go with Democrats. In the end, political parties are means to an end, not the end. It’s like blacks went from voting Republican to voting Democratic because the latter offered them more stuff in programs and holy victim points.

    Now, what is wrong with Ca and Tx turning majority brown IF most browns are nice-okay people? If the only priorities that mattered are social stability and economics, the browning of America might be tolerable. After all, large numbers of Mexicans may lead to some economic stagnation but nothing like the degradation in black areas of Baltimore or the jungles of Detroit. But white patriots have a historical and cultural view of what America is. It’s not just about crime rates or economics. After all, Asians commit less crime than whites. So, if a white community were to become 60% Asian, it might have even lower crime. If the only thing that matters is crime rates, that would be ideal. But white patriots have a sense of connection to the land and its history. Now, amnesiac whites probably don’t care. White Liberals and whites of Conservative Inc. don’t have much in the way of memory and bond. But white patriots do have a sense of historical America, and they want to preserve it. And in a way, it is history that gives meaning to a people. History makes a person see a particular land in a special way. Surely, an American Indian looks upon the hills of South Dakota differently than a recent Chinese or Hindu immigrant does. The immigrant will look at the scenery and say, ‘very nice’. But he has no sense of historical connection or claim to the land. But to the American Indian, there is more to the land than the land itself. It’s a sense that this was the land of his ancestors who hunted, fought, died, and were buried. And surely a black in the South, if he has a sense of roots, has a different feeling about the land than a recent immigrant from Guatemala does. To the Guatemalan, some town in Georgia is just an economic zone to find a job. But to the Negro, it is the land where his folks were once slaves and picked cotton and sang coded songs that might have meant, “I’m gonna get even with whitey one day and whup his ass and hump his daughter.” So, a Negro in the South feels a special attachment to the land. Or, take Jews and Israel/Palestine. Why did they feel this powerful need to choose THAT part of the world to create or recreate their homeland? Why not some piece of Africa or Siberia or North America? It was due to a deep historical sense that it was on that land that the founding stock of Jews received blessing from the Lord. Then, why wouldn’t white patriots feel the same way about American history and territory? America wouldn’t exist if not for white adventure, white conquest, white conception, and white creativity. Now, amnesiac whites don’t care about the past. They just think of the here-and-now. And white PC-types see the past as one of ‘guilt’ and ‘shame’, so whites must welcome racial demise for atonement. But white patriots feel that white folks created something unique and great in the New World, and they should remain the dominant people on the land. This side of white patriotism cannot be appreciated with mere numbers on crime and wages.

    Also, the danger of immigrants leading to Democratic domination has something to do with Jewish Power that has grown demented over the yrs. While non-whites supply the votes for the Democratic Party, they don’t command the heights. They supply the coal for the ship’s engine, but they don’t get to steer the ship. Jews control the Democratic Party, and so, when Democrats win, Jews get to decide and steer the future of America. Indeed, I would be less worried IF the Democratic Party were controlled by Mexicans like Guillermo. He seems like a nice guy and have no agenda beyond saying, “hello Jimmy” and getting chubby on tacos. I wouldn’t mind if Guillermo were governor, senator, or president. Or the head of Harvard or Yale. But the fact is Mexicans supply the votes but don’t control the commanding heights. They supply the feet but not the brains of the Democratic Party. And even Mexican and non-white politicians who do get elected just become puppets of Jewish globalists. Look at the Ocasio character from NY. As a street activist, she used to be pro-Palestinian. But headed to DC, she is suddenly with the Zionists. Look at Elizabeth Warren, the pseudo-Indian. She is just a squaw whore when it comes to Jewish Power. And Negro Obama was supposed to be a socialist who cared about Main Street. As president, he did little but bail out Wall Street, push Homo-Worship, and wage more Wars for Israel.
    Now, if Jewish Power was only moderately liberal, it’d be no big deal. But it’s gone crazy. It’s pushing Homo-Worship as replacement for Christianity. It is promoting all kinds of degeneracy. In the foreign policy field, it’s more Cold War with Russia and more neo-liberal or neocon wars or subversion. I don’t think most Mexicans are that crazy. But when they vote Democratic, they are not really voting for Mexican power. They are voting for Jewish power that is hellbent on pushing ‘hate speech’ laws, taking away guns, spreading anti-white hatred, and waging more Wars for Israel. As for Asians, they do better than Mexicans in climbing the ladder, but what do successful Asians in the Democratic Party do? They are like Sarah Jeong who serves as whore to Zion. And that Yuree Koh bitch at the Wall Street Journal who helped to shut down Alt Right Youtube channels like the Killstream. We have all this talk of the New People, but we don’t see anything like the New Elite. Indeed, would Jews support mass-immigration IF they regarded yellows and browns are real threats to their hold on Elite Power? No, they just see browns as easy votes and yellows as easy toadies. There is no Elite Equality in the US. Now, suppose anti-Israeli Arab immigrants have higher IQ than Jews and, as immigrants, are poised to reach the top and take over elite power from Jews. Would Jews push for mass-immigration? I think not.

    Anyway, even if most Mexicans don’t commit lots of crime in California, they(and Asians) did totally change historic California. If one is amnesiac or purely materialistic, I suppose it doesn’t really matter. (Indeed, it seems the problem with white Californians is they went from GRAPES OF WRATH mode to ‘Good Vibrations’ mode. Too much affluence and leisure robbed them of their worker-warrior spirit.) But if one has a sense of history, it is a great loss.
    The same applies to the Palestinians. Under Jewish-Zionist rule, many Arabs have done pretty well in Israel. They are materially better off living with Jews than they would be otherwise under Arab rule. After all, Israel is a first world nation, and even Arabs have lots of opportunities there that Arabs in Arab-ruled nations don’t have. So, if materialism and individual well-being are all that counts, many Palestinians(those allowed to stay in Israel) certainly benefited from the rise of the Jewish State. But if they have a sense of history, they feel the tragedy of how Palestine was wiped off the map and many of their brethren were expelled from the land. Palestinian individualist-materialists are happy to live in modern and prosperous Israel. But Palestinian patriots with a sense of history feel the pain over the fact that their homeland was taken by another people and that many of their brethren live under occupation in West Bank.

    • Replies: @CalDre
    , @David Baker
  265. Thomm says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    You are just desperate for attention from your betters.

    No one with an IQ above 70 (i.e. above yours) thinks I am of that group you obsess over, and nothing in my comment history suggests that I am (get even ONE of the regulars from that group to confirm your idiotic assumption, and then we’ll see).

    What is funny is that an entire slum of Indians lives in your head, which means they are literally shitting inside your head. Ironically, even this increases your intelligence, since it is starting from a rock bottom level.

    Get off my lawn!

  266. @CalDre

    “Middle class”

    Its going, going, gone. My brother was among the Midwest transplants who headed for the Golden Shore in the 1990′s and he moved back East.

    Middle-class white transplants really did not sign up for how primitive and barbaric the Red Indians are. I found this out in Phoenix.

    Whites have all but fled Los Angeles, middle-class that is.

    The working-class whites will stay a bit longer because they cannot go anywhere. But Los Angeles has already lost its white middle-class.

    • Replies: @Shawn Returns
  267. CalDre says:
    @Anon

    And Negro Obama was supposed to be a socialist who cared about Main Street. As president, he did little but bail out Wall Street, push Homo-Worship, and wage more Wars for Israel.

    You’d be hard pressed to find any Republican less of a Jew supremacist house goyim than the Republicans – from Trump to Cruz to Bush to Coulter. They’re all a bunch of treasonous snakes.

    But you’re right on one point, it’d be far better to have 50 million Mexicans in the US than 5 million Jews.

    Indeed, would Jews support mass-immigration IF they regarded yellows and browns are real threats to their hold on Elite Power? No, they just see browns as easy votes and yellows as easy toadies.

    Indeed, the Asians aren’t suing Harvard for their extreme pro-Jewish racism, they want to take some more of the tiny number of White seats.

    After all, Israel is a first world nation, and even Arabs have lots of opportunities there that Arabs in Arab-ruled nations don’t have.

    Certainly not compared to say Kuwait, UAE, or Suadi Arabia, or what they had in Libya. More than Egypt, sure. But end of the day Israel is a brutally racist, Jew supremacist Apartheid regime, and even Israeli Arabs are subject to constant humiliations and extensive Jim Crow laws.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Ron Unz
  268. Thomm says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    D B Cooper is a chinaman, you dumb arse!

    It was MikemikedotMike and Utu who said DB Cooper was Indian. Read my comment again (assuming your IQ is high enough).

    DB Cooper is Chinese. He is also a homosexual (as indicated by his obsession with feces). I have blocked his comments after seeing that, as any psychologically healthy person would.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  269. Thomm says:

    Ron Unz said :

    East Palo Alto had the highest per capita murder rate in America, but after a vast wave of immigrant Hispanics transformed its demographics, the homicide rate fell by some 97%.

    The Hispanic crime rate is not 1/33rd that of blacks. Even the white crime rate is not that low.

    Therefore, clearly the demographic change in favor of Hispanics is not the primary reason for this drop in crime. I think it is more due to a systematic decision to push out blacks and build new office buildings on what is one of the most commuter-friendly districts of land in the entire Bay Area.

    The data about San Jose, Los Angeles, etc. is more compelling, but a statistical update to your 2010 article is due, as your primary prediction (that gender normalization, age normalization, and 2nd-gen Hispanics becoming adults will improve things) can now be checked for accuracy.

  270. MarkinLA says:
    @CalDre

    They keep bringing in people by the millions but don’t build nearly enough new homes.

    When even a crappy thrown together house in Palmdale costs 300,000, the problem isn’t due to not building enough of them.

  271. Them Guys says:
    @Anonymous

    About a decade ago the FBI just finished a 5 year long massive Voter Fraud investigation in Detroit Mich. FBI spent over $50 million tax payer shekels $$ and a full Five years and found that most every Dead Detroit Voter going back close to when Blacks were first registered to vote, how ever far back that is? FBI found listed in Detroit Voter base files, close to, 500,000- A Half of a Million Dead Voter names still listed as registered voters…FBI also found that, Mail in Ballots of, iirc, same number of 500,000 were sent by us mail to Detroit voters who asked for it and those who did Not ask for mail ballots…And every mail ballot already had a checked vote box for the Dem candidate. When Voters who received an already checked ballot phoned Detroit voter hq to ask what should they do with it, they were told to just mail it Back to get a fresh ballot in mail!…Once sent back and post marked they became a valid dem vote and counted. When FBI announced this fact, and many fed officials and reg people cried foul, and demanded swift action to remove dead voter names, and prosecute those guilty of maintaining that voter base….Al Sharpton went Radical Ape Shit Berzerk. Then many Blacks joined in to attack FBI as, evil whitey Raaasssissts An’ Sheeeeeit!

    And Nothing at all was done to remove those dead names, most, African Blacks no doubt, and far as I know those names still remain on list same as live voters do. Detroit’s All Black Mayor & City Council board members, claimed it was necessary to retain the dead voter names incase they ever some day needed to look back to see how many voters then existed compared to modern day era list totals of names. What a huge Crock and massive waste of $$$ & Time for FBI and Taxpayers.

    Yet some idiots still ask me, why I so despise most Back folks. Just let any White Council boards try that eh. Then when caught by feds fbi, refuse to fix or change it.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  272. Them Guys says:
    @G. Poulin

    Irish Dinner…One six pack beer with one boiled potato.

  273. Them Guys says:
    @Anon

    Small Correction: Run by Jews under Talmudic Noahide Laws for Goyim only.

  274. @CalDre

    “Better to have 50 million Mexicans”

    Events in Brazil or Mexico make this questionable.

    • Replies: @CalDre
  275. @Thomm

    “It was MikemikedotMike ”

    No, it wasn’t. Just you, Sheboygan Shiva!

  276. theMann says:
    @Ron Unz

    I would like to see some evidence too, but many long searches later I haven’t been able to find a current ( that is to say, post 2004) listing of accidents stats in Texas broken down by Race.

    I can say that Texas does lead the nation in traffic deaths, even more than California in total, and massively more per capita, and alcohol is an overwhelming contributor. Also, Texans are apparently not fond of seat belts.

    I can go through newspaper accident reports or County or State court convictions, and do a rough estimate by last name. Unsatisfying to say the least. Then I would have to rely on Census data to do a percentile comparison. On that very rough basis it looks like Hispanics are 35% of the local population, and maybe 70% of the fatal crashes . I can say that the Ector\Midland\Reagan County area is a traffic slaughterhouse, and Hispanics are heavily represented.

    But in general, the more I dig for information, the further it gets way from me. Interesting though, that various government agencies are happy to list Hispanics by victim, by perp, not so much.

    In the meantime, the countries from the Rio Grande to the Amazon are the most violent on earth, that being a statistic that can’t be argued, so I am sure if they all move here our crime rate will go way down.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  277. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    try harder, maybe you’ll at least convince yourself

  278. Them Guys says:
    @geokat62

    But Why is it just White nationalism Ron is so worried about? Maybe I missed it, but so far I do Not recall in his articles the same worry concern when minorities of Blacks, Mexicans, and Jews do the very same type things…..Does this you posted mean that as long as only the others do such, and as long as Whites do Not do so..All can remain swell and calm? If yes, I am Not buying it. Why should Whites Only, never try to Get More Gibsmedats like those Blacks, Jews and Mexicans keep doing and getting? What about all that talk we keep hearing on, My Fair Share? and how about Whites Fair Share?….Good for goose= good for gander too eh.

    Man, between this new article, and the parts You posted here of an older one by Ron, it sounds as if Ron is very confused. This you posted= As long as whitey remains as is all is ok, while new article here its, as long as Repubs cave in and act like pro immigrant dems all can be super swell. WTF does it mean if not that?

  279. CalDre says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    However, another important lesson from this study is we simply don’t know enough about Hispanic victims of gun violence. That’s because government agencies often report data on race but not ethnic origin.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/murder-rate-for-hispanics_b_5309973.html

    Herein lies the problem that fundamentally and completely seems to undermine Unz’s assertions here. Hispanics are treated as Whites on far too many reports. The only way to compare White, Hispanic and Black crime statistics is to use statistics that accurately distinguish among all three groups. Every Hispanic criminal identified in a report as “White” increases the White crime rate and decreases the Hispanic crime rate – that’s just simple math.

    Mr. Unz, can you certify that your sources did such a proper differentiation? That all of the statistics you use accurately distinguish between Hispanic and White assailants?

    Because if you cannot, all of your results are nothing but absolute junk. (Sorry, that’s a factual statement of “garbage in, garbage out”.)

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Ron Unz
  280. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    sounds about right

    sad :(

  281. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    lol, yes

    also, suspect he’s so ugly that no white women are interested

  282. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Jews and blacks will bring America to its swift death.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  283. Ron Unz says:
    @theMann

    I would like to see some evidence too, but many long searches later I haven’t been able to find a current ( that is to say, post 2004) listing of accidents stats in Texas broken down by Race…On that very rough basis it looks like Hispanics are 35% of the local population, and maybe 70% of the fatal crashes.

    Sure, that sounds fine, and thanks for making the effort. Like I said, it wouldn’t surprise me if Hispanics were more likely to drive drunk, but it would be nice to see some actual data.

    But one very important thing is to make sure you adjust for age. A huge fraction of all serious crime is committed by young males in the prime-crime years, maybe 15-34 but especially 18-29. Nationally, the median age for whites is well over 40, meaning that few of them are in those years, while Hispanics are at 27, so a much larger fraction of them are. So Hispanics certainly do indeed have much higher crime rates than whites, but after you adjust for age, most of that difference disappears. I’d assume that drunk-driving is also age-dependent, though probably less so.

    The advantage of looking at homicides is that the numbers are so much smaller, you can just browse around a little and put together a list. Remember, I’m just asking for TEN whites who were murdered by illegals in a given year. Someone up-thread mentioned a couple of anti-criminal-illegal websites, but when I took a quite glance, they mostly seemed to have drunk-driving stories, and I wasn’t going to scroll through a huge list to try to locate any actual homicides (I’m excluding vehicular homicides).

    Here’s another reason I doubt the annual total is very large. Back in 2016, Trump was making “killer illegals” the centerpiece of his campaign and doing all sorts of media events with the relatives of the victims. But from what I recall, his campaign staff was only able to locate only one in the entire country, some white 7-11 clerk in Arizona who’d been killed by an illegal in some robbery or something. It seems to me if you’re spending $600 million on your presidential campaign plus getting a couple of billion of free media, and despite all your efforts, you can’t round up more than one white killed by an illegal, the national total can’t be too huge.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @map
    , @MarkinLA
  284. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Isn’t that the same FLA county Sheriffs Dept. that the recent last year school shooter happened in? And it also has a Jewish Sheriff head honcho. Who fully agreed with and complied with Hobammy and Eric Holders exec order policy to never charge Colored, Mexicans and Negroes, Yooots with any actual crimes. In order to stifle what is called the High school to Prison pathways.

    Which was reason that even after cops got called and sent to school shooter guys home 65 times in less than two years…No matter what he did prior to shooting up school, it never got reported as a real crime….

    I wonder if we are witness to some form of colusion of scams via a combo of, Dems, in Fla and DC,+ Coloreds+Jews. With the main agenda goals of Screw all Euro Whites and do not stop, but rather keep screwing more and more.

    I cannot here on a public forum type what my inner most feelings and ideas might be. So I shall quit now. I will type….Tic-Toc…Tic-Toc, to every Traitorous scum involved in it all.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  285. @CalDre

    Live in Phoenix for a month. Down-at-heel on entry-level pay.

    You don’t need statistics.

    Generally, the US is big enough for barrios and ghettos to be avoided.

    And whites tend to move out swiftly.

  286. Ron Unz says:
    @CalDre

    Mr. Unz, can you certify that your sources did such a proper differentiation? That all of the statistics you use accurately distinguish between Hispanic and White assailants?

    Look, I really hate to repeat myself. Of *course* Hispanics are sometimes classified as white in police reports and sometimes not. That’s *exactly* why such data is *totally* useless in estimating Hispanic crime rates, and I certainly never used it for anything.

    If the commenters here are just too lazy to bother reading my detailed analysis which is linked and highlighted in my current article, I guess the methods I used will just have to remain mysterious.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-hispanic-crime/

    What I will say is that quite a number of America’s leading anti-immigration analysts went through it very carefully at the time and were very impressed with my analysis while being absolutely stunned by my results. And since they were top public figures rather than anonymous random people just spouting off on a website, I was certainly willing to spend all the necessary time going through the details with them.

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    , @utu
    , @CalDre
  287. @Anon

    Blacks have been in the US for 400 years. Much longer than most whites (In the North anyhow).

    Jews have been in the US for 150 years.

    Why now, in the 21st century?

    When I left the US in the 1990′s things were not as bad with Jews and blacks.

    What happened in the last 20 years is what I am curious about?

    • Replies: @Da Wei
  288. @Ron Unz

    The Hispanics who commit the most crime are Red Indians. They are not even Mestizos. Just Red Indian primitives from the Central American jungles.

  289. Ron Unz says:
    @CalDre

    Indeed, the Asians aren’t suing Harvard for their extreme pro-Jewish racism, they want to take some more of the tiny number of White seats.

    Well, aren’t you being a little too hard on them? After all, the white Gentiles are just as totally chicken. And not only do the Gentiles outnumber the Asians a dozen to one, but they’re also the ones who actually established the universities in question.

  290. Art says:

    Crime does not matter – free bennies does not matter – the takeover of towns does not matter – what matters – is block voting for the left by Latinos. There is a difference between Americans and Latins – they dance to a different tune. By tradition Americans value freedom – no so with the Latins.

    The Jew will use Latins just like they use blacks to gain power over America.

    All our constitutional freedoms are in jeopardy.

    The more Latins that come to America – faster it will happen – period.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. What our forefathers labored to create – a nation of free people governing themselves – will parish.

  291. TheBoom says:

    I was born in Northern California and lived there for almost 60 years. Ron is an example of the bright financially successful people one comes across all the time in California. The downsides of the foreign deluge do not negatively impact him to any great extent – yet. He gets a wider range of food choices and cheap labor.

    The trade-offs for the working and middle class are far more negative. The working class has been hit the hardest. Cheap foreign labor has driven down wages while driving up the cost of living. That dynamic is starting to hit the middle class now. Areas, such as coastal property and quaint mountain towns, that used to be home to all levels of economic classes are increasingly becoming the home of only affluent people from all over the world and poor people with subsidized housing. Plus, the young often can’t afford to live in the same towns as their parents thus breaking down communities even more.

    Besides the friction between all these groups – that exists especially at the poor and working class levels – California has still not found Sailer’s famous magic dirt. The New Californians are far more in love with socialism and big government than the earlier Californians – who are leaving the state.

    This has already generated the highest poverty rate (when adjusted for cost of living) in the nation, an ever growing and more meddlesome government, and a bad business environment (thanks to costs of land, regulation and taxes). This has much to do with the flight of businesses, middle class and working class.

    Look forward and you can see California becoming a Democratic Socialist paradise that appeals to a rainbow coalition of the affluent and poor but not a paradise to the people in the middle (but they don’t matter anyway).

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  292. @TheBoom

    My brother and I both moved west from Michigan. I went to Phoenix and because Hispanics were so few in Detroit-you barely met any back in the 90′s-it was not until I got to the Southwest that I came across them.

    Hispanics, which is to say Red Indian wagon burners, tend to view white society as a bunch of wagons on the prairie.

    They tend to be nearer to middle or lower middle class areas and will target whites closer to their barrios than well-to-do whites who live in more upscale places. In Phoenix they would get you in parking lots, bus stops or even hallways of apartment complexes on the periphery of the barrio.

    My brother moved to Los Angeles. He has since left.

    California was once a middle-class paradise. Now the only whites around are either homeless, gays or wealthy. There can be no white middle class.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
  293. Them Guys says:
    @Ron Unz

    If you adjust for age, it is opposite of what you say Ron…Take biggest criminals in usa are Young Black Males…aged 15 to 27 yrs old on avg….Ok..Now consider total black pop is around 12% right…Out of That total 12 % blacks in usa…How much smaller of a percentage is it when ONLY 15 to 27 year old black Males get counted? A Lot less than 12%…So, while black male violent crime perps highly out number white perps and all other perps too…Being such a smaller percentage yet of only younger black males as violent perps….Then it makes for even greater disparate numbers vs white perps. Due to far less black pop vs total white pop numbers. Which means on avg in usa, a white is 50 times more likely to get murdered by a black younger male, than a black is to be murdered by a white.

    Also LOOK at those actual Broward Co. Fla Sheriffs dept Criminal perp Photos taken when cops there Booked criminal HISPANIC…..Yet, All but ONE are Listed as a White Race man!…Even when its so obvious based on names and facial features/looks they are a Hispanic…Most look more like a real Ape than a white man ever would…They look much closer to a negro man and are all a Hispanic…..I think it was poster Geokat62 who posted those photos up in This forum we are in now…Male Hispanic Crime perps listed under Race as White! All but for one perp!

    But if you find a Hispanic VICTIM of crime List with photos?…Most often, then, they list the Hispanic victim as a Hispanic…That totally skews stats big time to make white criminals look like far more than really are…And fewer White victims…This is BY planned design by scamming dem libs to make colored look better and whitey look bad.

    Obama & his AG Eric Holder did an prez exec order or prez directive, and sent it out to every usa jurisdiction. It told School teachers and admins, and Police dept’s nationwide to…NOT charge Hispanics nor Black Yooots (youths) with ANY real Crime offence whenever possible, to Halt the High school To prison Pathway as dem libs called it. That is 100% factual Ron. I do not now have a link to proof of it…But much was discussed online at websites and forums about the issue back during obamas term. And that policy is still in effect..Proven so at that Fla school shooting last year when again this hidden prior info again surfaced…This time even discussed on prime time msm news shows!….These factors sort of fully wreck your theory on less mex crime perps.

  294. @Achmed E. Newman

    You raise many excellent points. In addition the inevitable problems and conflicts that you identify, there is the matter of Affirmative Action in college admissions as well as in hiring throughout government as well as corporate America.

    These politically correct quotas (affirmative action) will surely harm white Americans (men in particular) and add fuel to racial divisions and as well as cultural differences between America’s English-speaking, European-derived core and the hoards of new arrivals who demand social and economic ‘equality’. This spells more division, more ethno-racial rivalry. The worst is yet to come.

  295. map says:
    @Ed

    No.

    Paul Ryan undid the House for Trump. Paul Ryan decided to, once again, focus on entitlement reform, i.e., cutting social security, medicare, etc.

    Remember, Trump did not focus on these issues. He did not want these cuts. That’s what undid the House.

    The problem for Democrats is that they got rid of a lot NeverTrumpers, neocons, rinos, and neoconservatives. These were wildcards that Trump could not trust. He was uncertain whether moves he made would get undone by impeachment led by his own party.

    Those are gone.

    He is actually in a much stronger position now than he was before. He has a lot to work with. Meanwhile, the marginal voter did not put Dems in the White House to impeach Trump. They put them there to work on healthcare. They can’t do that with Trump vetoing everything they push. Moreover, all of their subpoena nonsense is hot air. The Executive does not answer to the House so count on all of their subpoenas being ignored.

    Do you know how Trump can get his agenda through the House? Attach healthcare provisions to the Wall, Immigration, border control, tariffs, birthright citizenship, anything he wants. Healthcare is a critical issue and Trumps position on entitlements…that we can pay for this if the economy grows and if we confine the benefits to real American citizens only…can work easily.

    There are whole other avenues of attacks: Price controls on university tuition with student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy; Big Pharma attacks, attacking the price-differential between drugs costs here and elsewhere in the world; moving US soldiers stateside to guard the border and build the wall.

    The possibilities are endless.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Ed
  296. hrk says:

    Thanks Ron, great article and while I still disagree with you more broadly it’s nice to respectfully disagree for once. I am curious about the environment though, specifically in relation to this sentence:

    “Probably the leading concern is the extremely high cost of housing, and once these huge living expenses are properly considered, the state’s resulting poverty rate is among the worst in the country.”

    One of the questions I postulate to immigration proponents (or in this case apologists) is how does 1-2 million more people a year help citizens that already live here? Traffic will obviously become worse but how does importing the equivalent population of Los Angeles help the American ecosystem? It’s really interesting how environmentalism is completely absent from the immigration debate, in fact it’s that curiousness that makes me dubious of claims that follow the same template.

    There has been so much written about overpopulation in the third world but of course there are many folks who don’t believe the planet (or particular countries) are overpopulated, apparently they’ve never heard of Nigeria.

    But I’m curious Mr Unz, how does 1-2 million more people every year help our environment? How does that make us more self sufficient or resistant to inevitable dips in food production or other large scale challenges? I’m not sure if I’ve heard answers to those questions before.

  297. map says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Nationally, the median age for whites is well over 40, meaning that few of them are in those years, while Hispanics are at 27, so a much larger fraction of them are. So Hispanics certainly do indeed have much higher crime rates than whites, but after you adjust for age, most of that difference disappears. I’d assume that drunk-driving is also age-dependent, though probably less so.”

    I don’t know what this means: What does “adjustment for age” do? If Hispanics have a much higher crime “rate” then whites, then how would adjusting for age make that disappear?

    Are you claiming that whites and hispanics are equally crime-prone at the age of 27?

  298. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    I guess the methods I used will just have to remain mysterious.

    It is not mysterious. It is too simplistic. It has flaws. You get crime rates {Ci} for cities i=1,….,n and their populations {Pi} and racial fractions {Wi,Hi,Bi}. Then you calculate correlations cor(Ci, Wi) or cor(Ci*Pi, Wi) and the same for Hi and Bi and then you plot them against time to see trends.

    There is more info in the data that your method does not extract. Your data have qualitative feel only.

    If correlations for Whites and Hispanics have similar magnitude it does mean that two groups have similar criminality. Correlation is not linear: correlation of a set is not a sum of correlations of the subsets.

    That correlation is trending down or up does not really tell us much.

    Blacks have much higher criminality so they can mask smaller magnitud effects among Whites and Hispanics.

    If population of Blacks and Hispanics is anti correlated then the correlation of Hispanics with crime will be lower.

    A proper method would be a linear model C=w*W+h*H+b*B+D that would be fitted with or w/o population P as weights. The coefficients w,h,b would quantitatively show contributions of each group to crime. From h, H and P you could get estimate number of all crimes committed by Hispanics according to this linear model.

    Your method whether by design or not obfuscates. Why haven’t you done it correctly in the first place? It is not significantly harder than what you have done?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  299. utu says:

    Ironically enough, several high-profile controversies have instead targeted symbols of California’s Mexican past, especially Father Junipero Serra, the recently-sainted founder of Spanish California.

    Cheap and dishonest shot. The animus was anti-White/European and anti-Catholic. Serra was Spanish not Mexican.

  300. utu says:

    The signature issue of Trump’s populist campaign was to a build a wall

    There was never a real intent to build it regardless of what Trump believed If reduction of illegals was the real objective penalizing business on the job supply side would solve the problem. I do not think Trump mentioned it even once.

    Speculation: The wall as a signature issue was invented in the Spring of 2015 when the refugee invasion of Europe was being orchestrated in the ME by Turkey and Israel and horrific scenes on Hungarian borders were to being choreographed. It was not done for the benefit of Trump though. He just got an insight information that the Summer of 2015 would be the Summer of people storming the borders. It did not last as long as expected because Merkel defused the situation in September 2015 and Putin moved to Syria the same month. The intent behind the operation of sending refugees to Europe was much deeper.

  301. utu says:

    we recently discovered that our Founding Fathers had fortuitously guaranteed a right to Gay Marriage in the U.S. Constitution, where it lay undetected for more than two centuries until the time was ripe

    It made me laugh.

  302. utu says:

    Consider that blogger Steve Sailer is a California native who moved back to live in his hometown of Los Angeles… he has only very rarely written anything about Los Angeles politics or California issues in general.

    Stirring things up is a job for him. It pays. But not near his home. He likes harmony where he lives. His bravery is proportional to his vulnerability.

  303. @CalDre

    Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010
    ‘How Germany destroys itself through large scale immigration of relatively stupid migrants, with high birth rates’.
    Germany is rich through, what German industrialists call ‘export of intelligence’, high quality advanced products..
    Intelligence is to a large extent hereditary.
    Sarrazin foresaw, even before Merkel opened the gates, how Germany would destroy itself
    The whole European world, that is, European culture, is busy destroying itself, more and more peple realise.

  304. @Ron Unz

    Oh boy this is going to cause a shit show in the comments but its interesting none the less. According to the leftist prison policy institute who’s world view is basically that mass incarceration is the new Jim Crow and that the Texas justice system is just as “racist” to Hispanics as it is to Blacks if not more so, Whites and Hispanics are incarcerated at similar rates in Texas.

    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/profiles/TX.html

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @MarkinLA
  305. Simplistic issues summarized

    Hispanics are not blacks and that is a good thing ~ Ron Unz, Fred Reed

    Hispanics are like blacks and its terrible ~ John Derbyshire, Steve Sailer, VDare, Strormfront types

    Hispanics are like blacks and its awesome ~ Democratic Party, SJWs, the Media, NAACP publicly, ect.

    Hispanics are not blacks and its a horrible ~ ? maybe Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan NACCP privately,

  306. @niteranger

    “Much of their money they earn is cash and is not taxed…casual labor they call it where I live. Furthermore, they send at least half of it back to Mexico, and Middle America. This is not taxed and it’s not put back into the US economy. I’ve lived with them for over 35 years and they have become a social cancer on the communities.”
    Boy ! Got confused there for a moment – thought you were taking about multinational companies. Then realised the money you spoke of was a mere drop in the ocean compared to corporate tax avoidance.

    • Replies: @niteranger
    , @CalDre
  307. @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr Unz has written a very thoughtful article.
    He is right to separate race and immigration.
    Immigration is a serious issue – cast it in racial terms and you will never get positive action: you will be fought at EVERY turn.
    I believe EVERY country has an environmental (& cultural) carrying capacity, beyond which it is dangerous to go. I can’t prove it , but I believe the US (& Australia) are getting close to capacity. Could the US function as a first world country with a population of 400, or 450 million people ? Even climate change deniers must admit that there are environmental limits.
    Assume climate change & those limits radically shrink.
    Radically reduce immigration – good, but remember, most immigrants only leave because their own countries are hell-holes. The US (& Mrs Clinton) enthusiasticly helped Hondurous into a vicious despotism. Surprise-surprise, they want to leave.
    Want to shrink immigration push factors ? Stop helping foreign countries become hell-holes….But now we approach issues way beyond mere immigration….

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @Nawi
  308. Ron, I find it rather incredible that you could get through this entire piece without mentioning Bernie Sanders. This is Mickey Mouse–or uninformed? I myself contributed to OurRevolution so that Bernie and friends would have the loot for him to make his election swing through many states. What, you think Kevin deLeon would have made real progress against Feinstein were it not for the CA DNC that got the message, even if that putz Padilla refused to count all the 2016 primary votes. I’m surprised, since you yourself are aware how the inclusion/exclusion of info and the framing participate in creating the future. There were a few pieces in alt-media that gave coverage, also or especially to the non-coverage of Bernie’s stump appearances and the (as usual) blowout #’s. I would think that you’d do a greater service if you would conceive of getting Ron Paul and the Libertarians to put aside some of their Platonist ideals long enough to get together with Sanders–bringing him support for breaking with the US foreign Policy (here they agree with Corbyn)–so that he would be encouraged to make a run as an Independent. What would Israel Shahak say?

  309. CalDre says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, aren’t you being a little too hard on them?

    You are right that Whites need to stop up and stop suing Jews for discrimination. Such discrimination is rampant, and goes far beyond Ivy League schools. I’m not even sure such a case has ever been brought and lost.

    I suppose it’s possible that to some Asians, Jews are also “Whites”, but their lawyers can’t be that dumb. Maybe their lawyers are Jews, lol. Lo and behold, a moment after contemplating that, I discovered that the organization behind the lawsuit, Students for Fair Admissions, is run by a Edward Blum, who no doubt just happens to be Jewish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Blum_(litigant)

    So we will see what remedies they seek. On its face the suit is about discrimination against Asian-Americans. It’s possible Mr. Blum will seek to reduce Jewish admissions and point out the blatant pro-Jewish discrimination at the Ivy Leagues. Though it’s more likely that pigs fly, given he is a raving neo-con.

  310. CalDre says:
    @Ron Unz

    Point taken, but it’s not that I’m lazy, it’s that I don’t feel I need to read all 200 linked pages (or so) to be able to ask a question about the data accuracy. Thanks for pointing me to the correct one of the many linked articles you authored.

    Using state incarceration rates is useful only if you know how the prison system uses them. The low occurrences of Hispanic crimes in Florida would seem to indicate that they do not faithfully follow the forms, or the forms do not have a “Hispanic” option. I suppose it is possible that the numbers are accurate but given the extent to which they are outliers, I would want to interview some prison officials/inmates to see if there is any semblance to reality – my guess is not. While not scientific, a search of “Florida inmates” on my search engine shows a lot more Hispanics than the official statistics count (and a massive number of Blacks) – https://duckduckgo.com/?q=florida+inmates&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images .

    If I have time I will look at it some more but the critical analysis for any statistical study is the data set, and I don’t see how anti-immigration analysts would be any more suited to assess prison data sets than you or I – it would take actual investigative journalism to ascertain whether these statistics resemble reality. As noted, in my very simple test, they did not. And there are other factors too – e.g., to the extent groups tend to prey on other members of the same group, Hispanics may be less likely to report crimes, particularly if they are illegal. You have taken some similar factors into account in your analysis, namely, median age. I.e., one would need to look at reporting rates, suspect apprehension rates, conviction rates and incarceration rates, not just the incarceration rates. Maybe you did all that but I haven’t gotten to it yet – anyway, thanks for sharing your work, good food for thought.

  311. @SunBakedSuburb

    You forgot the elephant in the room, tech. They already HAVE devastated the industry as far as whites and non indians are concerned. It’s almost like a fiefdom now. And (((they))) are quite fine with that since they sit on the very top. However almost all “leadership” positions are the dot heads. Since they share a lot more than just basic supremacism, it is no wonder the dotheads are such ardent zionists

  312. @anon

    I concur that we actually need a complete 20 year moratorium on ALL immigration. I was just indulging in some ol fashioned joshing. However I’d be lying if I said I am not attracted to asian women (I mean the real deal, the orientals. Not the “Asian” subcons).

    The lure of p**** can make men do some real stupid sh** so yeah I can understand why some folks here are OK with mexicans as long as they look like salma hayek or penelope cruz. It’s totally understandable. Sometimes us men behave like pigs when it comes to beautiful women. Completely greedy. That doesn’t excuse immigration though. It must stop for now

  313. @anon

    I completely concur. 10+ years in tech and I have seen it ALL.

    The overwhelming majority of software engineers over 40 are opposed to the H1b visa because they rightly see it as the employers way of replacing older engineers with young cheaper imports from India. But this group of people are increasingly the minority in the tech industry, shouted down by the younger peripheral staff that are dogmatic in their liberal, socialist zeal

    Yours truly fits in said group. However I am trying my best to educate the (very few) white younger staff of the “perils” of liberalism (or rather neo-liberalism as classical liberalism was or at least pretended to for the workers!) to their personal and professional “growth”

    The upshot is SV has become another industry taken over by Jews, i.e. crazy liberal, dogmatic, ruthless, greedy, dishonest, sexually depraved, highly unequal, narcissistic, self-serving, full of hypocrisy, and surrounded by like-minded fortune seekers from around the world a.k.a. equally self-serving, rootless economic migrants who are here to take whatever they can while the taking is good, fuck everyone else and fuck country

    I can feel your bitterness. I wake up every morning with a certain stoicism which allows me to face these charlatans that hate my guts with dignity. Is it any wonder (((they))) have chosen the dot-heads to be their closest minions? These dot heads are a tanned version of the chosenites.To replace the (now) expendable WASP traitors as they’ve found someone even better, someone who, unlike the WASP, has similar values “baked in” to their worldview.

    I was at Intel a couple years back and a fat dot-head slob from Qualcomm just replaced one of our senior managers for a very senior leadership role. In three months that bas**** had replaced almost all mid level white managers with his hindoo brethren and the whole thing went predictably down after that. As you can expect it is another cisco or oracle in the making. Obviously I’ve left that company after my white manager also got replaced by a hindoo and predictably started making life difficult for the non Indians. Unfortunately wherever you go, you run into them however this new place has a couple of (I think) based whites so I am just a little more optimistic.

    I hate their guts at this point in my life and no one sickens me the way these dot heads do. Even in faraway memphis, they are replacing white folks at fedex HQ with dot indians. It’s just shameful what we are allowing to happen to our young generation. Had this been happening in India, they’d have rioted by now (riots are an Indian specialty, featuring all the blood and gore you’d expect from any 3rd world sh**hole plus a lot of sexual sadism to the women and children)

    Our young lads, full of naive optimism, were fooled to incur a ton of debt so they can be pushed aside to make way for these conniving blowhards by their equally conniving (((leaders))). No wonder they make such a perfect “couple”. They both come from a place of racial resentment and in the case of the dot heads, I’d say sexual resentment as well (considering how deprived they look)

  314. @Jeff Stryker

    Aside from the most important thing, preserving California natural beauty, high density living IMO opinion is miserable. In China they have “coffin apartments.” Think of how cheap CA could be with coffin apartments!

    If anything land in CA should be reclaimed, with many buildings torn down, with land being returned to nature.

  315. Ron Unz says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    According to the leftist prison policy institute who’s world view is basically that mass incarceration is the new Jim Crow and that the Texas justice system is just as “racist” to Hispanics as it is to Blacks if not more so, Whites and Hispanics are incarcerated at similar rates in Texas.

    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/profiles/TX.html

    Well, it’s nice to see that the latest Texas data available online tells exactly the same story as what I had mentioned in my article a few years ago.

    Actually, since Hispanics are considerably more likely to be in their prime-crime years, if you adjust for age, you’ll discover that Hispanic incarceration rates in TX are substantially *below* those for whites.

    • Replies: @Anarcho-Supremacist
  316. Ron,

    This column seems to be aimed at your leading columnist. If he knows what’s best for him, he’ll remain silent—the power relationship is too unequal. But he’ll remember.

    My two cents is that this column suffers from too flaws:

    1. It reduces the social and cultural issues of immigration to the single issue of crime.
    2. The crime issue is further reduced to that of homicide.

    The homicide rate is arguably a good measure of violent crime. It’s not a good measure of most other forms of criminal activity. A society can have a relatively low homicide rate while having high rates of corruption, nepotism, petty theft, and disregard for public space (littering, vandalism, indifference to strangers, etc.). In fact, such societies are pretty much the norm on this planet.

    There’s also the larger issue of demographic dispossession. The United States was founded by settlers from northwest Europe who came in the 17th and 18th centuries. They and their descendants defined the U.S., not only its laws and political institutions but also its cultural and behavioral norms—the unwritten ways of doing and being. Above all, they created a peaceful, law-abiding society where people normally trust each other. That’s not how most societies work on this planet, in case you haven’t noticed.

    There’s another aspect of American exceptionalism. I won’t discuss Hispanic IQ at length because Fred Reed will get upset and because many of your commenters will see this as a distraction from more important issues (which seem to be Jews! Jews! Jews!). Hispanic IQ is not unusually low, but it’s not unusually high either—it falls within the mid range of human societies. So the smart fraction will be accordingly smaller. I remember reading an author who said he could engage in a lengthy intellectual discussion with most people in California, including obscure things like the possibility of life on other planets or the latest advances in science and technology. This was back in the 1950s. Is it true today?

    Finally, there’s the little issue of voluntarily becoming a minority. Why would anyone agree to such a fate? I used to know an Italian whose family came from Rijeka (formerly Fiume). It used to be a largely Italian city, but most of its Italian inhabitants were pressured into leaving in 1945. He still had a few relations there. When I asked him if they enjoyed living in Rijeka, he shrugged and replied: “You know, it’s no fun being a minority. Even when things go OK, it’s no longer your country. You’re just a guest.”

    So let me repeat my question. What’s in this for the founding population of the United States and their descendants? Or is that question off-limits? Are they allowed to talk only about crime?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  317. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    It is not mysterious. It is too simplistic. It has flaws. You get crime rates {Ci} for cities i=1,….,n and their populations {Pi} and racial fractions {Wi,Hi,Bi}. Then you calculate correlations cor(Ci, Wi) or cor(Ci*Pi, Wi) and the same for Hi and Bi and then you plot them against time to see trends…Your method whether by design or not obfuscates. Why haven’t you done it correctly in the first place? It is not significantly harder than what you have done?

    You should read my later, much more detailed paper on the same topic:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/

    You’re missing the big issue. Cities as a whole are *extremely* large and ethnically-heterogeneous geographical units, and treating each one as a single unit for correlation purposes introduces vastly larger problems than the ones you suggest. We’re grouping together Bed-Stuy and the Upper East Side.

    The problem is that below the city level, crime rates are reported by precinct and ethnic distributions by zip code, and matching the two sets up would probably involve 100x more effort than my urban correlation approach, if it could even be done at all. So somebody else can try it if they wish.

    Meanwhile, my more “simplistic” analysis had never previously been performed by any researcher and my findings absolutely astonished several of America’s most prominent social scientists, so I guess I’ll have to be satisfied with that…

    The commenters on my website tend to be a very lazy lot, who randomly spout off on things without first bothering to read my articles I’ve linked in the text and prominently featured on my website.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Rurik
    , @utu
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  318. MarkinLA says:

    This seems to just be another variation on the theme that “Hispanics are natural conservatives”. However, didn’t Hispanics just try to get Proposition 209 overturned in the legislature only to have is shot down by the Asians? Aren’t Latino politicians always crying about the lack of (your) money in the schools and demanding increeases to supposedly fix the failure of their students?

  319. Nawi says:
    @animalogic

    “The US (& Mrs Clinton) enthusiasticly helped Hondurous into a vicious despotism” Generally speaking I agree with what you said. More specifically, I would suggest that if you want to start talking about Latin America, the first thing you should do is to learn how to write the the names properly (HONDURAS). I guess you do not know where to put the finger in the map if you have to find Honduras. No…., Honduras is neither near Peru nor close to Papua New Guinea.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  320. MarkinLA says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    The problem with this is that we know there is a problem in Texas where a lot of Hispanic perps are considered white. If you just grab local and state statistics and don’t look at each individual case (which I doubt they did) than you have an unreliable result. Now you are probably correct in their world view as it applies to incarceration of minorities but you also have their other interest which is to keep up the charade that illegal aliens are a great gift to society.

  321. MarkinLA says:
    @Ron Unz

    The problem with adjusting for age is that you have to wait 15 years to see if that comparison makes any sense. One thing you do not adjust for is the high incidence of gang and crime family membership with Hispanics.

    We had one in our neighborhood – the whole family was involved in low level drug dealing. Eventually all the males and a few of the females went to prison. Since the old man ran off that was how they got by. They are gone now (probably foreclosed on when too many family members went to jail) and I didn’t have that much contact with them since I never used much in the way of drugs. From the grapevine I heard that some got tired of revolving jail stints and some didn’t. The problem with drug dealing is that you always have to be ready for a deal that goes bad so pretending that it isn’t violent is something the left tries to push that isn’t reality on the streets.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  322. TheBoom says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “California was once a middle-class paradise. Now the only whites around are either homeless, gays or wealthy. There can be no white middle class.”

    I grew up working class/middle class and Northern California was once a promise land for that economic level. No more.

    Your description of California as a whole fits San Francisco with the addition of young hipsters, Section 8 denizens and first gen immigrants. Now San Francisco is on the cutting edge of street poop. Calcutta with better weather and architecture.

    When I first moved to SF a strong working class community still existed. Has almost disappeared and even young professionals who want kids are often forced out now. Other cheaper hubs in redder states are beginning to attract startups for that reason. Such is the life in a Socialist paradise

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @David Baker
  323. Ron Unz says:
    @Peter Frost

    My two cents is that this column suffers from too flaws…because many of your commenters will see this as a distraction from more important issues (which seem to be Jews! Jews! Jews!).

    Well, quasi-WN-types such as yourself sometimes take more pride than you should in your supposed scholarly skills, which are often quite mediocre.

    If you’ll recall, I had gladly allowed you to publish on this website, and much of your material was interesting, if perhaps of somewhat doubtful quality.

    Then you wrote a long article on the evolution of criminal tendencies. I thought it was quite interesting, but (very politely) pointed out you had apparently miscalculated the strength of the selective-pressures involved by one to two orders-of-magnitude, which is hardly a small amount.

    You gradually became extremely agitated and deleted my own (very polite) technical comments. Strangely enough, I do not like to get censored on my own website.

    As a reasonable consequence, I eliminated your moderation privileges. You took that quite badly, and a few months later, abandoned this website entirely, using the excuse of the horrific “anti-Semitism” that you found so troubling here.

    You apparently returned to WN/HBD blogging some time ago, but as far as I can tell, you get negligible traffic and almost no comments, which apparently is the reason you occasionally show up here to denounce immigration and “anti-Semitism”…

    • Replies: @Peter Frost
    , @Anonymous
  324. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    Isn’t that the same FLA county Sheriffs Dept. that the recent last year school shooter happened in? And it also has a Jewish Sheriff head honcho. Who fully agreed with and complied with Hobammy and Eric Holders exec order policy to never charge Colored, Mexicans and Negroes, Yooots with any actual crimes. In order to stifle what is called the High school to Prison pathways.

    yep, that’s the county

    Scott Israel is the sheriff, and he’s an anti-gun nut.

    And yes, the reason the school district didn’t act on the numerous violations of Mr. Cruz, was indeed due to Obama’s ‘Promise’ program, that prevented minority students from being disciplined. (the logic of course that if minority students were disciplined in higher percentages vs. white students, then it was prima facie proof of widespread racism in America’s school system. The so-called racist “school-to-prison pipeline.”).

    The irony is that once the sacrosanct victim of endemic and ubiquitous white racism in the nation, went on a crazed killing spree, he suddenly morphed into a ‘white supremacist’, as per the ADL and media outlets.

    But there’s so much more to this. America’s cops are often trained by the ADL. This is likely why so many Hispanics are designated as ‘white’ in crime reports. In fact, I suspect that most Hispanics are designated as white, for local and national crime statistics.

    And of course this is all part and parcel of the Agenda.

    Just watch anything coming out of Hollywood, and you’ll see that whites are far, far more violent and murderous than all their myriad victims; blacks, Hispanics and everyone else.

    All part of the Agenda:

    Headlines on Drudge right now -

    German states want social media law tightened; No ‘Hate’…

    London’s homicide rate hits grim milestone after spate of bloodshed…

    Raising mentally fragile generation…


    RABBI WARNS START OF BIBLICAL WAR…


    Latinos could turn Texas blue in 2020 if enthusiasm holds…

    MORE races go to Dems.

    as for California, I remember reading somewhere that it was La Raza zealots trying to speed up the Reconquista of their lands in California and elsewhere who were starting many of the ‘wildfires’ in that state. With the intention of driving whitey out once and for all.

    The fact that it’s now wealthy white areas being burned, makes me wonder.

    But this is the thing. IF ten illegals were caught setting fires simultaneously, and when caught all cried out – Reconquista!’. I still don’t think it’d get reported.

    Indeed, I suspect that the Agenda is so strong in the fevered minds of our law enforcement and media, elites and residents of Malibu, that even if it means they themselves will finally suffer some inconvenience do to their hatred and treachery, that they would universally prefer the fires to continue, rather than report on who was setting the fires. (just a theory ; )

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @Them Guys
  325. Ron Unz says:
    @MarkinLA

    The problem with adjusting for age is that you have to wait 15 years to see if that comparison makes any sense.

    No that’s not correct. By “adjusting for age,” I mean calculating incarceration rates based on the portion of the population aged e.g. 18-29 rather than the entire total. It’s certainly not perfect, but better than nothing.

    And although it’s possible that some Hispanics may be mis-identified as white in prison incarceration statistics, it probably isn’t a huge effect. That’s because so much of prison violence is along racial lines, and the prisons therefore try their to properly identify inmates and avoid putting them together. That’s certainly the case in CA, and I assume it’s probably true in TX as well.

    I’m not saying all these official government statistics are perfect, but they’re all we have. I do think they’re much better than your anecdotal data like “I know a Latino family that’s been involved in crime.”

    But if you prefer the anecdotal approach, perhaps you should take up my repeated challenge to find just TEN cases of middle-class whites who’ve been murdered by illegals this year across the entire county. Given the 15,000 total homicides, my request is hardly an unreasonable one…

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  326. Sparkon says:
    @Them Guys

    Agent76 said:

    Although wage and price controls that had been imposed by President Nixon were largely ended in 1974, elaborate price controls on oil continued, producing a gasoline shortage

    Them Guys responded:

    But wasn’t that Jimmy Carters screw ups caused it?

    Neither version is true.

    In fact, the Arab Oil Embargo was brought on by American re-supply of Israel during the so-called Yom Kipper War in 1973.

    The Arab-dominated Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) announces a decision to cut oil exports to the United States and other nations that provided military aid to Israel in the Yom Kippur War of October 1973. According to OPEC, exports were to be reduced by 5 percent every month until Israel evacuated the territories occupied in the Arab-Israeli war of 1967. In December, a full oil embargo was imposed against the United States and several other countries, prompting a serious energy crisis in the United States and other nations dependent on foreign oil.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/opec-enacts-oil-embargo

    Those who don’t know history are not only condemned to repeat it, but also to confuse others in the process.

    Are we there yet?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  327. MarkinLA says:
    @Ron Unz

    I believe I already did. The very first one on the list is 3 people who’s names don’t seem to be Hispanic. In addition, limiting the victims to middle class whites is another misleading trick. So if illegal aliens only murder black and Hispanic Americans we shouldn’t care that they are here?

    http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/category/murder/

    The point of gangs and crime families is that they don’t stop being criminals just because they get old. The old ones become the shot callers while the younger members do the crime. They are no less a criminal than the mafia Don.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Ron Unz
  328. Sparkon says:
    @CalDre

    In my youth, I saw many Americans working those terrible jobs without any 10 foot pole.

    Under Drawin’s law, the White middle class simply deserves to die. Stupidity has consequences.

    Darwin wrote no laws. If stupidity has consequences, watch your back. And your front.

    • Replies: @CalDre
  329. @Nawi

    Thankyou for your enlightening spelling criticism. So reassuring that there are people out there completely on top of such sins against the English lankyouaje.

  330. @TheBoom

    MIDWEST DREGS

    When I was young (90′s) all the druggies blew town for the Golden Shore Jerry Garcia sang about. Ranging from the potheads following the Dead to the real hardcore drug dealers. In the Midwest, if you are a druggy, you’ll be endlessly hassled.

    The gays all wanted to leave the Midwest as well. This was essentially what the Dan White vs Harvey Milk case was all about-Irish-Catholics finding their community overrun by felch-breath homosexuals.

    Also, the hot chicks wanted to move out West. Find a sugar daddy, become an actress etc.

    My brother was a wannabe rock star. He settle for being an urban planner but even on a decent salary he did not want to raise his daughter out there. So he moved back East.

  331. @MarkinLA

    All people can be, & are, criminal…of course, as with everything else, some are “better” than others.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  332. bomag says:
    @Tom Verso

    Left unsaid in the article is what the state would be like without immigration.

    It might be okay now, but it could well be considerably better if Californians had raised up more of their own instead of importing different people.

  333. EDIT: This was intended as a reply to @Peter Frost

    This column seems to be aimed at your leading columnist. If he knows what’s best for him, he’ll remain silent—the power relationship is too unequal. But he’ll remember.

    Is it? Sailer has long been an immigration restrictionist, but he doesn’t have an obsession with hispanic crime. He’s also not a white nationalist, having debate Jared Taylor on this issue. Sailer promotes “Citizenism”. If anything golf course architecture figures more prominently in his material, and I’ve been reading Sailer for a decade now.

    Crime obsessives actually mentioned by Ron in his piece include Breitbart, VDARE, and the Daily Stormer (lol). Sailer figures into Ron’s piece in his noted quiescence about Angeleno politics, though I can recall a number of pieces by Sailer on Garcetti.

    Sailer’s main big theories (or rather ones that are novel to him) appear to be:

    1 – The Sailer Strategy for winning elections (and Ron’s focus on Proposition 187 here is a challenge to Sailer, but not on the crime issue)

    2 – Sailer’s “Affordable Family Foundation” theory (Ron in this very piece criticizes California’s high housing costs, so he can’t be too opposed there).

    Sailer’s not in the habit of getting into debates with people anymore, but I’m sure Ron Unz would welcome his contribution here.

    In a previous piece Ron mentions the late Philippe Rushton, who apparently despaired over Ron’s findings and felt they would invalidate his life’s work. I’d say Rushton’s ego was too sensitive and that when your only tool is a hammer the more everything looks like a nail. R-k is a good theory which explains much, but I recall Derbyshire’s observation that the greatest distinction is between blacks and non-blacks.

    Hispanic crime seems useful to exploit politically despite not really being true. Playing on people’s primal fears is excellent electioneering. And we can point to the actual truth of significant violence south of the Rio Grande.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Sean
  334. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    You should read my later, much more detailed paper

    I read it way back. It was then I realized that your method while somewhat nouvelle was deficient. That having your data set one could extract much more information if doing it correctly. At that time I did not know why you did not do it in the correct way but now I began to suspect that you opted for correlations not from laziness, as I suspected first, but because you wanted to hide the quantitative rates of criminality for different ethnic groups.

    The commenters on my website tend to be a very lazy lot, who randomly spout off on things without first bothering to read my articles I’ve linked in the text and prominently featured on my website.

    Look at the bright sides. They do not spot holes in your methodology.

    • Replies: @CalDre
  335. @animalogic

    WHITE SUPER-CRIMINALS

    When a Jeffrey Dahmer or John Gotti goes off the rails who has a high IQ and enough muscle mass to be the match of the average ghetto thug they wreak enormous amounts of damage on society.

    Dahmer, for example, killed 17 people. That is more than 15 Crips, who always get busted their first or second homicide and are locked up for the rest of their life.

    Gotti killed possibly as many as 100 people.

    Thankfully, white criminals are statistically few in number.

    And let us be honest that the public does not really care anyhow about queer prostitutes missing in action or Italian-American hoods.

  336. Yee says:

    Shawn Returns,

    “In China they have “coffin apartments.” ”

    “coffin apartments” are in Japan, Mr. Returns. We’re already quite miserable, don’t plant anymore on us…

  337. anarchyst says:
    @Them Guys

    The only way to truly stop voter fraud is to make every American citizen re-register, with proof of American citizenship, using a standard form at the federal level, from which a tamper-proof voter ID card is issued.
    There is enough time before the next federal election cycle to make this work.

  338. Rurik says:
    @Ron Unz

    The commenters on my website tend to be a very lazy lot, who randomly spout off on things without first bothering to read my articles

    Well Sir, I have read some of your articles on the subject, and you make excellent and salient and cogent points. As usual.

    The thing is.. as one commenter just suggested, it isn’t all about rape and murder, but those things are important too. Even one rape or murder or both are considered unacceptable if it turns out the raped and murdered girl was raped and murdered by an orc that had no business being in the country in the first place. But was here due to the greed, or treachery and genocidal hatred of our ruling classes.

    But more to the point, as I and others have said, the more dire nature of immigration isn’t just the crime. It’s the tenor of the place.

    Miami might be the most crime-free city in the nation, (not likely), but that isn’t the whole story.

    I happened to be in the vicinity during New Years Eve 2017, and was witness to Pit Bull’s Miami Revolution celebration.

    here’s a quick search of what it looked like

    a typical performance

    what was missing, was any hint of Heritage American culture

    It was a new Miami, with all that entailed.

    Dade county was once a white place. With Miami Beach being Jewish and Miami proper and the outskirts being white.

    Now it’s mostly diversity, (non-white) as the whites have been driven out. Crime or no crime, the culture doesn’t resonate with white folks. They’re still punished by Affirmative Action in every way possible, but they’re been driven to minority status.

    A harsh reality for those pitiful few without the wherewithal to escape.

    And this is the Agenda for America writ large, and once the diversity gets control of the nation in absolute terms, whitey won’t just be dying from opioid overdoses and seeing their sons snuff it coming back spiritually shattered from the Eternal Wars for Israel, but it will be a hell on earth to live in this nation for them.

    Crime or no crime.

    There’s more to life than just working and paying taxes and existing. There’s a subtle, ineffable quality that makes life worth living. Culture that resonates with your blood and gives meaning to your aspirations. Hope for your children to be happy. Friends and neighbors and associates you can feel something for, just as they feel something for you. Something other than distain and hostility.

    It isn’t just when a crazed lunatic eats a man’s face off in Miami that you know something has gone wrong. It’s when the music and languages all spoken are something completely alien to you.

    So you move on, and then find the community you move to is transforming in exactly the same way.

    And this is all part of a larger Agenda, IMHO.

    From Pakistanis in England to Turks in Germany, to Iraqis who rape ten year old Austrian boys, and are subsequently acquitted, because he didn’t understand that doing so was a crime.

    The demographic and cultural war against the White people of the West seems to know no bounds.

    And many of us find that troubling.

    Are we racists for thinking that way? Dunderheaded fools and Rednecks, worried about our bodily fluids – as Fredo Reed would put it? Are Hispanics the exact same thing as white Americans, interchangeable in every way, except for the racism of white racist gas station louts?

    Or, is there something worth preserving about Western civilization and its people, as such.

    Even it only so they can enjoy New Years Eve celebrations that resonate with their tribal wonts..

    • Agree: Carroll Price, bomag
  339. @Rurik

    This would be quite a remarkable news story and unlikely to be ignored by President Trump, particularly in advance of the midterm elections. The news media doesn’t need to report it when the President has 56 million followers on Twitter and his every “outrageous” utterance is duly covered wall-to-wall as the world’s most important news story.

    Setting effective wildfires is not as easy as people think–ask the Japanese. At least it’s not all the time in all areas. Turkish agents did successfully set some in Greece, but I’m not aware of another time.

    The crime simply seems to ambitious for La Raza activists, of whom there are not many and do not have a particularly high level of ability.

    But if you have evidence that La Raza fanatics set the fire, I suggest you Tweet that to President Trump, Ann Coulter, Don Trump Jr, etc.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  340. @Ron Unz

    Ron,

    I don’t consider myself a “White Nationalist,” and I have mixed feelings about nationalism in general. The nationalism of the 19th and early 20th centuries led to the globalism of the 21st century. It’s the same logic of liquidating local identities in order to create a larger and supposedly better identity. On the other hand, I advise people to vote for nationalist parties, like those of Marine Le Pen in France, Matteo Salvini in Italy, and Viktor Orban in Hungary. But that’s a different sort of nationalism. Anyway, if Macron can redefine patriotism, why can’t nationalism be redefined?

    This year you asked me to return to The Unz Review. I turned down your kind offer, and I explained my reasons at some length:

    1. Comment control. When I was previously at The Unz Review I never had full comment control. For the first few months I had no control at all. After that I had the power to delete comments that could trigger a legal action in a U.S. court of law. Then, even that limited control was withdrawn. Nothing you have said since then leads me to believe that I would ever have full comment control. Please note: I’m a Canadian, and as such I can be held liable not only for what I write but also for what other people write in the comments section.

    2. Your letter to The Harvard Crimson, in which you described Gregory Cochran as “an extreme rightwinger.” I understand that you have personal issues with Greg but those issues should be resolved in private between the two of you, and not in a public venue like The Harvard Crimson.

    I have no wish to be famous. My blog is a workshop where I work out my ideas, and some of those ideas end up in dry academic publications. If I can do that, I’ll have done everything that is required of me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @jilles dykstra
  341. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, my more “simplistic” analysis had never previously been performed by any researcher and my findings absolutely astonished several of America’s most prominent social scientists, so I guess I’ll have to be satisfied with that…

    What can we learn from graphs in your paper (see below)? What does correlation of -0.4 for Hispanics as opposed to -0.2 for Whites mean? Can we get some idea about crime rate form this graph? No.

    What mathematically unsophisticated, including “America’s most prominent social scientists”, will take from it: Look, Blacks are high, I knew it. But look at the yellow curve, it is going down while the curve for Whites is going up. Hispanics reduce crime and whites increase crime? Get more Hispanic is the take home message.

    You are a manipulator, Ron Unz.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  342. I suspect that instead of immigration issues causing voters to switch parties, Republicans who made California the Republican powerhouse it was, have simply left the state, leaving it to the Democrats.

  343. anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    This “stay calm, it’s no so bad in CA” doesn’t acknowledge the horrifying fact that the two most powerful cultural and opinion forming industries – Hollywood, Popular Music & TV and Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Google etc) are based in California (Los Angeles and the Bay Area) and these industries are dominated by ethnic and sexual groups/cults that absolutely hate poor and working class White Americans in fly over states, the South.

    These $ billion elites openly insult, threaten us and openly work to replace us with anyone and everyone.

    In order to work in these gigantic, insanely wealthy industries of Hollywood, Social Media a regular White American really has to sell her soul or her/his body to the most degraded sexual and political cults.

    There seem not to be any John Waynes, Ronald Reagans, Johnny Carsons or traditional women able to work in the entertainment industry.

    Take the actress Bo Derek – arguably one of the most beautiful women in Western history – she just let it out that she sort of supported President George W Bush’s compassionate Conservatism and that was it, she has been basically blacklisted from ever working in the entertainment industry again.

    As for Facebook, Twitter, Google – Milo Y – an intelligent, very funny Gay Libertarian comedian got banned from Twitter for life for just making a very funny negative film review of the God awful Feminist remake of Ghostbusters!

    I’ve lost all my social media access and Paypal for things like just “noticing” Islamic terrorist slaughters in Europe and the UK or the Pakistani Muslim, North African migrant sexual assaults sexual grooming rapes of Girls in Rotherham England and Cologne Germany!

    No everything isn’t going to be alright in CA or in our invaded and rapidly declining USA, Western Europe/UK.

    California also just has way too many people living there – too many diseased homeless people, too many street people, too many #*&[email protected] Lib as*holes, too many worthless colleges and universities where nothing much of value is taught.

    M’thinks the Benedict Option is best in such a situation – withdraw from public life, form monasteries of the best of literature, philosophy, classical and popular culture because there just aren’t going to be many/any decent movies, TV shows, popular music – let alone a great, new symphony or opera.

    • Replies: @CalDre
  344. Rurik says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    But if you have evidence that La Raza fanatics set the fire,

    As I said, it;’s only a pet theory of mine. (and others ; )

    here there’s story of an illegal who it’s said set a fire ‘to stay warm’ that subsequently got out of control.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fires-immigration-20171019-story.html

    I haven’t seen any proof that illegals or La Raza is responsible for the California fires, but consider..

    If you could make a convincing case that by setting wildfires, that it would drive the racist and guilty white invaders out of your lands, is it possible some zealots might be temped?

    And then consider.. If it were to have been demonstrated that an illegal or illegals were indeed responsible, would the authorities report this news?

    Yes, Ann Coulter and perhaps even Trump, might tweet it and start a conversation, but I doubt Trump would do so. It’s just too incendiary. Trump likes to enflame his base from time to time, but when push comes to shove, he’s a damper on the combustibles.

    Take the Las Vegas shooter. I’m convinced that psycho did that for a reason. They usually do.

    But to this day they say he had no motive, or any motive escapes the authorities.

    I think they’re lying, as usual. I think they know what his motive was, and are suppressing it for reasons of national exigency.

    And I believe that they’d do the same thing if it were discovered that La Raza was starting the fires.

    Are these fires burning white folks lands in proportions outside what you’d expect if they were random?

    Just the answer to that one question might be telling, but I doubt anyone has any interest in asking it.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Johnny Walker Read
  345. I think that blaming the collapse of the Republican party in California on the backlash to proposition 187 ignores a few major issues. First that it kept the Republican party on life support for 8 years longer than it would have otherwise. Pete Wilson would have lost in 1992 without it. Second is the unexamined question of why Californian whites don’t vote Republican.

    If you removed every single Hispanic from California it would still vote Democratic. In the 1990s over 100,000 working class white families left California. They were displaced economically by the Hispanic working class, many of whom were illegally in the US. The white professional class wasn’t displaced at all they just had new serfs.

    Immigration causes internal migration at nearly a 1 to 1 rate. The whites who have the most animosity against newcomers leave their old neighborhoods. The whites who have the least animosity against newcomers employ them.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  346. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik said:

    Are these fires burning white folks lands in proportions outside what you’d expect if they were random?

    this just in from Drudge

    https://apnews.com/cbcaf374df5e4bb6bd82c8894053d2a1

    in the fires that erupted last week west of downtown Los Angeles. It is likely that crews assessing damage will discover hundreds more homes lost in the canyons and steep hillsides in inland and coastal areas, Los Angeles County Fire Chief Daryl Osby said.

    About 200,000 people were still under evacuation orders even as some residents were allowed to return to inland communities of Agoura Hills, Westlake Village and Newbury Park. Evacuations were lifted Monday night for a portion of West Hills in Los Angeles.

    Osby emphasized that about 57,000 homes have been saved from the so-called Woolsey fire, which burned a path about 20 miles (32 kilometers) long and 14 miles (22.5 kilometers) wide — from northwest of Los Angeles through suburbs and the Santa Monica Mountains to the Malibu coast.

    New fires erupted in the rugged Rocky Peak area along State Route 118 near Simi Valley and in suburban Thousand Oaks, where residents had been evacuated last week from a different fire the day after a gunman killed 12 people at a country music bar in the city.

    “I’ve been doing this job for 31 years and probably in the last five, maybe seven years, every year seems to get worse,” California Fire Chief Scott Jalbert told The Associated Press.

    [emphasis mine]

    I don;’t know California all that well, but perhaps Mr. Unz or others might know if those areas are inhabited by racist invaders or not.

    BTW, I don’t want to sound unsympathetic to those people who’ve lost homes or loved ones. It’s very tragic and sad. And my heart goes out to all people who suffer such loss.

    But consider how much more tragic and sad IF they knew who was starting some of the fires, and why. But failed to report on it, out of politically correct fealty to the Agenda.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  347. Che Guava says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Ha, ha, I designed an eight-bit processor on paper, logic tables and schematics all by hand, unfortunately, it was just before the age of afforaable FPGAs and a few affordable computers capable of emulating designs.

    So I never saw my design run.

    I was never the neatest at tech. drawing, not bad, but had several years of it, as you say, doing it (or having done it) is great training. I greatly appreciate having had that.

  348. Che Guava says:
    @Rurik

    Question of arson, interesting, is it not? Never having been near the place, I was starting to have similar thoughts to your own reading of it two or three days ago, arsonists have to have had some role.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  349. Ron Unz says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Sailer figures into Ron’s piece in his noted quiescence about Angeleno politics, though I can recall a number of pieces by Sailer on Garcetti.

    Sure, but I think it was mostly poking some mild fun at Mayor Garcetti for being a bland and boring white guy with an Italian name who’s part Jewish and suddenly “discovered” he was actually Mexican when he decided to run for office. I think I may have left a comment pointing out that since Mitt Romney’s family also came from Mexico, maybe Romney should have urged voters to elect Americans to break barriers by electing our first “Latino” president.

    Steve has also sometimes written about that gigantically expensive new public school downtown that looks like a giant robot about to incinerate City Hall with its death-ray. And also about that the former LAUSD schools chief, a gay Latino in his 70s who was hit with an expensive sexual-harrassment lawsuit.

    But LA is 50% Hispanic and only 20% white, and if Steve were living in 45% white Brazil, I suspect he’d have much more “exciting” things to focus on.

    Hispanic crime seems useful to exploit politically despite not really being true. Playing on people’s primal fears is excellent electioneering.

    I’m not sure about that. Relying upon ridiculous lies in politics is fairly doable if you have overwhelming control of the media (e.g. RussiaGate), but I think it get much more risky when your opponents do.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    , @RobinG
  350. @Rurik

    Wake the hell up pajama people:

  351. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    What can we learn from graphs in your paper (see below)? What does correlation of -0.4 for Hispanics as opposed to -0.2 for Whites mean? Can we get some idea about crime rate form this graph? No….You are a manipulator, Ron Unz.

    No, you’re missing what I emphasized in my text. My central result was that the urban correlation between the presence of blacks and the presence of violent crime is apparently just about the highest that anyone has ever found anywhere in the social sciences, and has been like that for 25 years. I think this is quite “interesting.”

    Furthermore, I also pointed out that this result is surely weakened because most large cities are so racially-heterogeneous. A much more difficult but accurate calculation based upon neighborhoods would very likely raise the correlation to something close to unity.

    Obviously, when the correlation of one particular factor approaches unity, it becomes extremely difficult to tease apart the impact of any other factors, and I certainly never claimed otherwise. Anyway, rather low correlations in the range of -0.2 or -0.4 don’t really indicate anything important, though since most sociological correlations are more like this, desperate academics sometimes pretend otherwise.

    Meanwhile, the relative criminality of whites and Hispanics is better suggested by the other methods I employed.

  352. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    On the matter of ‘Hispanics’, isn’t it about time to distinguish between the brown People-of-Color and white People-of-Conquistador? This confuses issues.

    Calling all of them ‘Hispanic’ allows the people-of-conquistador(the whites or mostly white light-skinned mestizos) to masquerade as people-of-color(the browns and indigenos).

    Also, it robs the brown people-of-color of their true identity and origins. After all, they’d lived in the Americas for 10,000 yrs BEFORE the conquistadors arrived. Calling all those indigenous brown people ‘hispanics’ is like calling black Africans ‘Europeans’ because Africa had been colonized by Europe in the 19th and 20th century.

    Russians had been in Russia for a long long time. Then, they came under Mongol rule for few centuries. So, would it have made sense to call Russians ‘Mongoloid’?

    It is a historical and linguistic crime to refer to All people of ‘Latin America’ as ‘Hispanics’ or ‘Latinos’. It is an imperialist identity for the non-whites. What kills me is that they’ve passively accepted it. What lack of agency.

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    , @Jeff Stryker
  353. Rurik says:
    @Che Guava

    arsonists have to have had some role.

    perhaps so

    and even if it’s only inadvertently, like migrants starting fires to keep warm, would they report that?

    or, if the wealthy liberals living in Malibu and Santa Barbara were burned out by such fires, intentionally set or otherwise, would that mollify their gushing love of all non-white immigrants?

    Would it be preferable to live in a country that would elect a man like Donald Trump, and know your homes were relatively safe..

    or would it be preferable to live with the constant fear of arson, because the payoff would be the Deplorables would lose whatever remaining rights they once had?

    If Bill Maher had to lose a house every few years, but white Americans were treated literally like Palestinians, with check points and gratuitous torture.. would that be preferable to knowing his house was safe? (rhetorical question)

    What would George Soros or Robert Reich be willing to sacrifice to see Donald Trump and the Deplorables ground into the dirt?

    Half their houses? Half of their wealth? More?

    • Agree: Che Guava
  354. @Ron Unz

    How many prominent national writers are there with a major focus on local issues? To take a random example, such as for instance Ron Unz, I can’t recall you writing much on local politics either. State politics to be fair, which Sailer doesn’t do much of either. Karlin occasionally writes on Moscow, and Derbyshire occasionally comments on New York.

    I can think of some pretty good local writers like Chicago’s John Kass (or the late, great Mike Royko), but not many who do both.

    Some commenters here point out interesting information about the states and cities where they live.

    You’re right on media power, but the existence of substantial conservative media means that one can now effectively propagandize conservative voters (the opposite example you cited, Russiagate, for instance is only taken seriously by partisan Democrats).

    A potential problem if your propaganda happens to turn off the marginal “moderate” voter, especially in competitive districts. So far I don’t see evidence of this being a problem. In fact if not for your work, no one would even be aware of hispanic crime being moderate other than perhaps Southwestern police officers.

    The prominent Republican ad (Democrats let him into our country) featuring a menacing cop killer was denounced for “racism”, not painting a false pattern unsupported by data. The enemy specifically compared it to Lee Atwater’s 1988 Willie Horten ad, which of course painted a correct picture. Now to be fair there are suburban moderates, who while not exactly liberal, generally object to harsh belligerence (e.g. hence the Never Trump buffoons who abandoned our nominee in 2016).

    And if I read you correctly, your thesis is that campaigning against hispanics leads to temporary political strength but long term defeat for conservatives. I am not convinced of that argument because hispanics aren’t blacks. They lean mostly Democratic because that party offers them relatively more financial benefits. Efforts to whip them into a fever against President Trump have gone nowhere (which speaks well of their political maturity). Thus it seems like our long-term political hopes hinge upon stabilizing our share of the electorate rather than anything else. Granted, there are ways of doing so which aren’t anything like Prop 187, but immigration control is one part of the recipe.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  355. Ron Unz says:
    @MarkinLA

    I believe I already did. The very first one on the list is 3 people who’s names don’t seem to be Hispanic. In addition, limiting the victims to middle class whites is another misleading trick. So if illegal aliens only murder black and Hispanic Americans we shouldn’t care that they are here?

    http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/category/murder/

    Well, in the first case someone with a long criminal history who may or may not be an illegal killed his former roommates who may or may not have been white supposedly because “they knew too much.” It wouldn’t surprise me if they’d all been involved together in drug-dealing or something like that. So it’s not at all clear whether it falls into my category.

    The second case is an immigrant Uber drive who was paid by his idiotic customers to let them “car surf” but one of them carelessly fell off the roof and killed himself. I really wouldn’t call that a “homicide” and there’s anyway no indication that the immigrant was illegal.

    In the third case, a couple of Latino gang members killed a couple of rival Latino gang-members, which obviously doesn’t meet my criteria. Same for the fourth case, in which a Latino guy strangled his Latina ex-girlfriend.

    Most of the other cases are similar or involve drunk-driving. There isn’t a single clear case that goes toward my target of TEN, and I’m certainly not going to wade through endless pages looking for them.

    The broader problem is that illegals are over 3% of the total population, so if they were just “average” in criminality they’d account for around 500 annual homicides. If you want to go through all the websites and try to show that the actual total is far, far above 500 murders per year then be my guest. But by challenging you to locate merely TEN middle-class white victims, I was giving you a much, much easier task, and also one more relevant to middle-class American whites. To some extent, it’s a sampling or filtering technique.

    Frankly, that website you found seems pretty useless to me, though if you want to filter it for the cases I’m talking about, that’s fine.

    By contrast, consider the Daily Stormer. It may be a “Neo-Nazi” webzine, but it seems to be run by much more competent and serious journalists. As I mentioned upthread, I went there yesterday and *immediately* found four cases of middle-class whites murdered by blacks. I just now went back there again, and found four *additional* cases of middle-class whites killed by blacks. It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re able to publish close to 1,000 such murders per year, and that’s probably not the entire national total.

    If that stupid illegal immigrant website were run along similar lines, the whole question would be pretty easy to resolve.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  356. Bill says:
    @Malaysian Truther

    Yet still the flows caused resentments which played a part in the Brexit vote. Why ?

    Um, because if you mention that the people you are actually concerned about are the gang-raping Pakis, the police come and take your children away?

    Or, maybe it was the verbose nonsense you wrote.

  357. Bill says:
    @Svigor

    Actually it was a tax increase for a lot of wealthy blue-staters, who can no longer deduct state taxes (high in blue states) on their federal tax returns.

    Hard to say. There was a giant corporate tax cut as well, so I suspect most of those rich blue-staters benefitted from the tax cut anyway (since rich folks own the corporations).

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  358. MarkinLA says:
    @ThreeCranes

    All the plants are overseas.

    They are there because owning your own silicon foundry is very expensive and beyond the economics of low volume chip houses. It is horrendously expensive to constantly update your equipment as technology advances.

    The company I worked at designed their own ASICs for pacemakers and ICDs. They bought the design files for an old 8 bit processor and modified it. The other chips for monitoring the heart’s electrical system and stimulating the heart were designed based on previous designs and the new requirements. There is no way, doing 25,000 units a year, that they could maintain their own foundry. They send the tapes to Taiwan and get the wafers back where they do testing in house. Of course they are taking a chance that their design will be stolen but that is the price you pay.

    The hardware design group does build proof of concept breadboards but the actual chip design is all done on the computer, just like a computer programmer. The wafer is cut and some are put in DIP packages for testing to make sure what was designed works as expected. So even EEs are slowly being removed from hands-on experience.

  359. @Ron Unz

    Shoot in fact even in total per capita terms they are “underrepresented”. Look at Harris County the largest in the state. Over 44 percent Hispanic and less then 23 percent of the inmates are latino. https://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/counties/harris/crime/

  360. Ron Unz says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    You’re right on media power, but the existence of substantial conservative media means that one can now effectively propagandize conservative voters (the opposite example you cited, Russiagate, for instance is only taken seriously by partisan Democrats)…In fact if not for your work, no one would even be aware of hispanic crime being moderate other than perhaps Southwestern police officers.

    The prominent Republican ad (Democrats let him into our country) featuring a menacing cop killer was denounced for “racism”, not painting a false pattern unsupported by data.

    I’m not so sure about that. Don’t forget that Silicon Valley companies basically control the Internet, and they’ve been kicking off lots of pretty influential right-wingers, which eventually may have a major impact on the political landscape.

    My impression is that most of the Tech execs are rather politically naive, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they vaguely believe all that crazy RussiaGate nonsense. So if stopping “Russia spies” has had a major role in the new policies at Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, that could be very significant, and far more extreme things could happen in the future.

    And don’t forget that Silicon Valley is very heavily immigrant/Hispanic, and most of these top Tech execs know perfectly well from their real-life experiences that Hispanics don’t commit a lot of crime. So when Trump and his right-wing friends claim otherwise, they just look like liars or idiots. Personally, I’d bet that all the ridiculous “illegal immigrant crime” nonsense has been one of the three or four biggest reasons that the top Tech people all think that Trump and his friends are just a bunch of potentially dangerous nuts, and feel they’re doing a public-service by gradually driving them off the Internet.

    Their silly views on RussiaGate probably come from occasionally glancing at the headlines of the NYT, but their sensible views on Hispanic crime come from the evidence of their own daily experiences.

    I live in Palo Alto and I think I have a reasonable awareness of the sort of local news and events that would tend to shape their view of reality. Convincing the CEOs of Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube that you’re a bunch of lunatics entails serious risks…

  361. @Ron Unz

    The commenters on my website tend to be a very lazy lot, who randomly spout off on things without first bothering to read my articles I’ve linked in the text and prominently featured on my website.

    OK, I’m trying to be the exception that proves the rule here, and I’d promised you to read the article. I did a few hours back. However, as you’ve already been told by some of the astute commenters, your method is not necessarily sound. You discussed, but did not address well (besides hand-waving “yeah, it’s prison, so they know who’s what race/ethnicity to avoid riots”) the problem of whom of the Hispanics will be labeled White, Black, or Hispanic in the various stages of crime investigation and the legal system. You do not understand what I’ve written about a number of times, the fact that illegals, by definition do not fall under the same legal system in reality.

    There are state incarcerations, and there are Federal. It’s true that many of the Fed crimes committed by illegal aliens are illegal entry to the country to begin with, but my hand-waving, and reading, says that not so many are held nowadays just for illegal immigration – they have usually committed felonies to end up in the Federal pen. 20% of Fed inmates are illegal aliens, is what I just read. In addition, incarceration numbers do not equal the number of actual criminals. This is much more the case for illegal aliens who bail out of the system at will.

    You have some kind of assumption about most illegal aliens being urban dwellers. I have no idea how you come to that conclusion, as lots of illegals work in farming where I live. I think many more live in the country, but no, I don’t have numbers – they are, after all, what’s that word, oh yeah, UnDOCUMENTED.

    I will address these points, but I will tell you that, having read 2/3 of the comments under your 8-year-old article (just making sure it’s the same one you meant me to read), I agree with lots of the very intelligent detractors in those comments, some of who are still trying to explain their points here, but it may have to be later on due to work calling.

    I will say now though, that having spent 20 minutes or so with bing, one can find articles with conclusions all over the map as to whether illegal Hispanics commit crimes, including murder more or less in proportional to their population than Whites. I did run upon a site that described (with the police information in and accompanying .pdf) 48 underage rapes by illegals in ONE MONTH in ONE STATE (NC) alone! – yeah, a few were statutory rape, but many were just plain children. OK, that’s not homicide, but it’s violent and despicable crime nonethless.

    It’s not easy to find that mythical TEN homicides, as I explained to you already. Many are local articles that will not pull up. I know ones in my city, but I can’t find anything on-line (I’d have to remember names, I suppose). I’ll continue later on, Mr. Unz.

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  362. @TheBoom

    San Francisco, a city I drove through each night, does have a population devoted to ‘progressive’ agendas. Conversely, their rents, housing costs, utility costs and other expenses will swell the homeless population, impoverish your “Middle Class”, and empower the ruling class to further tighten their already iron grip on the electorate. When the city’s “Sanctuary” status was initiated to allow illegal aliens to live there without fear of deportation, said visitors formed gangs of young men who would hurl insults at people, following pedestrians in a threatening manner, while defining a “Turf” for their activities to continue unchallenged by police or civic groups. There’s a reason why Mexico is described as a Toilet American Sits On, and it’s starting to overflow. We’re witnessing the ‘overflow’ in these sanctuary cities.

  363. MarkinLA says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well I only needed 7 pages to get to J.S on a fishing boat in Virginia (assumed white) , Madison Wells, Molly Tibbets, Charles Byrdic, Veronica Jester, Joyce Cluchey, Ann Farrin, Neidy Roche, Maria Larin, Dixie Rios, Laura Abarca, Brittany Baez, and Russel Fisk.

    Now I know your are going to say that somebody with a Hispanic surname doesn’t count but with a first name like Dixie I am guessing a long time family resident of the South. Why do you think it is OK for illegals to murder anybody who isn’t a middle class white? How does that make any difference to people who don’t want them here?

    In addition, ICE statistics showed 1800 illegals arrested for homicide.

    http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/murder/fact-ice-arrested-1800-foreign-born-killers-in-2017/

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  364. Rurik says:

    And don’t forget that Silicon Valley is very heavily immigrant/Hispanic, and most of these top Tech execs know perfectly well from their real-life experiences that Hispanics don’t commit a lot of crime.

    curious, I did a quick search of “palo alto california arrests” on Bing

    this was the first result:

    https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Palo+Alto+California+Arrests&qpvt=palo+alto+california+arrests&FORM=EWRE

    it begins with-

    Palo Alto Arson Suspect Arrested

    https://patch.com/california/paloalto/palo-alto-arson-suspect-arrested

    it doesn’t mention his ethnicity, but his name is Osvaldo Madrigal

    Police said Madrigal, on probation for assault with a deadly weapon, may have been illegally squatting at the former restaurant.

    He was arrested on suspicion of two counts of felony arson, misdemeanor trespassing and a felony probation violation.

    here’s his mug shot and arrest record from Kentucky

    https://kentucky.arrests.org/Arrests/Osvaldo_Madrigal%20mendoza_27980066/

    there is no mention of his race or ethnicity anywhere

    the next story is about this

    https://californiadolphin.com/news/577977/police-renew-attention-to-east-palo-alto-cold-case-killing

    more

    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/3-Men-Kidnap-Sexually-Assault-East-Palo-Alto-Teen-in-Random-Attack-Police-499483041.html

    read the comment

    I don’t want to read too much into such anecdotal information, but I do note that it seems the authorities are loath to ever make mention of the race of a perp, especially if they’re a first-class [non]citizen.

    And for what it’s worth, when ever they say “random’, you can basically be 100% certain that the perps are fist-class citizens and the victim most likely white.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  365. @Ron Unz

    BTW, my retort to your “laziness” crack was not meant to denigrate other commenters. Just speaking for myself, I am a numbers/details guy for work that I do, but I don’t have the time to get into this stuff in the way you did. Now, does that mean I should trust your stuff? No, I’ve written the same thing about the climate “journalists” who will read nothing but a conclusion of a scientific paper (as that’s all he CAN read) and just extrapolate from there. In addition, my common sense from observing this play out all around me, tells me otherwise. As I said, I’ll write more on this.

    I did read your essay and look at your graphs, but again, there are many assumptions in this area simply due to the undocumentedness of it all. That is what you were trying to get to, right, whether Americans should think illegal Hispanics are more of a physical threat than others (leaving the brothers alone for a second, of course.)?

  366. @animalogic

    First of all it’s not a drop in the bucket. I suggest you quantify it. The last time I checked it was the third source of income into Mexico! It does not dismiss the Corporate stealing in America which is great. Everything is cumulative and synergistic in the economic pathways.

  367. Rurik says:
    @Ron Unz

    top Tech execs know perfectly well from their real-life experiences that Hispanics don’t commit a lot of crime. So when Trump and his right-wing friends claim otherwise, they just look like liars or idiots.

    OK, I found the city’s own website

    https://www.cityofpaloalto.org/gov/depts/pol/info/default.asp

    it begins with the arsonist’s arrest, but of course no mention of his ethnicity or legal status

    more:

    https://www.cityofpaloalto.org/news/displaynews.asp?NewsID=4228

    if you scroll down, it looks like a charming cornucopia of vibrant races, from dark black to white and everything in between, but it also seems that Palo Alto does not report on the race or ethnicity or legal status of its criminals.

    All I’m suggesting is that ‘top Tech execs’ probably travel in circles that don’t get much ‘up close and personal’ experience with these folks, and probably rely on the local media to keep them informed.

    But as with the teenage girl gang raped by three men in your town, even as they’re putatively looking for these orcs, the media and authorities are so pathologically obsessed with protecting the dishonest narrative of ‘minorities as eternal victims of white racism…

    that they refuse to even give a description of the animals.

    The suspects were wearing dark pants and black hooded sweatshirts.

    Anyone with information…

    • Replies: @David Baker
  368. @Bill

    The legislation limited the federal deduction for state and local taxes (income, sales, property) to $10,000 per year.

    That has substantially hurt people who are mostly NOT “rich.”

    Many millions of non-rich families and individuals in CA, NY, NJ, CT, MD, OR, Hawaii, etc., pay more than $10,000 per year in property tax alone (especially in New Jersey) AND more than $10,000 in state income tax alone (especially in California and Oregon).

    Easily the majority of the people hurt by this change are people who supported Trump, especially outside CA and Manhattan.

    This includes my retired mother, living in NJ, whose federal income tax liability has increased under the new tax law.

    The limitation on federal deduction of state and local tax payments has arguments in its favor, but the change needed to be done gradually and the limit can’t be only $10,000 per year. A deduction limit more like $30,000 per year would hit the fat cats without hurting so many others.

  369. RobinG says:
    @Ron Unz

    …. if Steve were living in 45% white Brazil…..

    Really? Seems highly improbable. How is ‘white’ defined?

    I’m just sorta incredulous ’cause Brazil always seemed pretty brown to me. And then a few years ago, a Brazilian co-worker referred to Sao Paolo as white, and identified himself as white … when by any US standard he was quite obviously not …. or mixed … or whatever is the PC definition.

    And BTW, if Hispanics are not White, why would the Portuguese be any whiter than the Spaniards? Does Hispanic only refer to a mixture of Spanish with indigenous Amerindians? Aren’t Mexican colonial Spaniards who didn’t miscegenate still considered Hispanic?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  370. RobinG says:
    @Anon

    It is a historical and linguistic crime to refer to All people of ‘Latin America’ as ‘Hispanics’ or ‘Latinos’. It is an imperialist identity for the non-whites. What kills me is that they’ve passively accepted it. What lack of agency

    . I don’t think they have accepted it. There’s a caste system. It’s the whiter upper layer that’s adopted this language.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  371. @Rurik

    When the political model of Socialism is applied, races, genders, sexual orientation, citizenship status and religious freedom ALL are thrown upon the Altar of Government Control and Special Dispensation. Stirring up racial and gender strife creates a fertile environment for demagogues to minister to a “Majority” electorate, promising jobs, promotions, special protections and speech codes that will further deteriorate relations between these now-competing factions. Let’s look at Venezuela, shall we? (Russia is old hat, but the same tribe infiltrated their leadership…) What happened to a nation that was rolling in oil money, self sufficient, virtually uniform in its racial population makeup, and had a bright future as an oil rich, sovereign nation? First and foremost, they gave WOMEN the vote. Female suffrage was emphasized for one reason: Women vote for demagogues. When that effort reached fruition, the media, courts, social organizations and coffee shops commenced a campaign to enforce “Fairness”. Why did the big oil magnates and leadership live in luxury, while the masses wallowed in slums and squalor? Of course, when you talk to females about political issues, you include children in the mix. You also encourage women to campaign for “Equal Rights”, and the expansion of the government to implement programs to benefit their newly hatched revolutionaries. Females are not the only faction socialists ply with their government administered panacea; blacks, homosexuals, illegal aliens, malcontents and criminals will eagerly join the fray. Before they knew it, the hugely bloated, politically corrupted and fiscally careless leadership faced a steep decline in oil revenues, while they simultaneously nationalized the nation’s industries, which created a revenue source ill equipped to adjust to such drastic economic downturns. Now, those women chase stray dogs and cats to eat, and their protests are met with armed government resistance I’m afraid the human condition renders many people vulnerable to such schemes. America also contains those types of humans.

  372. Ron Unz says:
    @RobinG

    …. if Steve were living in 45% white Brazil…..

    Really? Seems highly improbable. How is ‘white’ defined?

    I’m just sorta incredulous ’cause Brazil always seemed pretty brown to me.

    Frankly, I’m also pretty surprised and somewhat skeptical. But Wikipedia claims that 48% of Brazilians are “white,” being entirely or mostly European in ancestry. I’ll bet that the true figure is quite a bit lower, but don’t have a clue what it would be.

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  373. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You discussed, but did not address well (besides hand-waving “yeah, it’s prison, so they know who’s what race/ethnicity to avoid riots”) the problem of whom of the Hispanics will be labeled White, Black, or Hispanic in the various stages of crime investigation and the legal system.

    One way to do this and separate them out, is to look at religious affiliation instead of ethnicity, since, presumably the majority of Hispanics, even if they self-identify as white, are Roman Catholic.

    I commented on this a while back in regards to blacks being overwhelmingly Protestant and also make up a big chunk of American Muslims:

    If the total U.S. prison population is 51% Protestant and also 78% of 34% of the U.S. prison population is black/African American Protestant, that means that 24.5% of the total U.S. prison population are non-black/African American Protestants (whites and Hispanics).

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-national-question-and-the-war-on-poland/#comment-2085551

    Blacks are rarely Catholic, which should give Catholics a huge advantage in terms of being underrepresented in the federal prison population, but Catholics are actually incarcerated at higher rates than Protestants (see below), even though most blacks are associated with historically black Protestant churches:

    Source: http://www.unz.com/article/the-national-question-and-the-war-on-poland/#comment-2084350 and http://archive.is/w19xI

    Hispanics are less often Protestant, particularly Mexicans, who are also about 12% of the federal prison population https://web.archive.org/web/20181021232251/https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_citizenship.jsp :

    Majorities of both groups self-identify as Catholic, but the percentage of Catholics is 20 percentage points higher among Mexicans (81%) than among Mexican Americans (61%). Meanwhile, more Mexican Americans than Mexicans are Protestant (18% vs. 9%) or unaffiliated with any religion (17% vs. 7%).

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/08/on-religion-mexicans-are-more-catholic-and-often-more-traditional-than-mexican-americans/

    Maybe it’s race. We know that even though African-Americans represented only 13 percent of the U.S. population in 2013, they represented 36 percent of the prison population. And we know that Muslims are almost twice as likely to be African-American as the U.S. population as a whole. (I think race is also probably relevant when we’re thinking about the over-representation of Rastafarians and Santerians in prison too.)http://archive.is/G5y5o#selection-1267.0-1279.235

  374. Ron Unz says:
    @Rurik

    Palo Alto Arson Suspect Arrested…And for what it’s worth, when ever they say “random’, you can basically be 100% certain that the perps are fist-class citizens and the victim most likely white.

    I’d very much doubt that the EPA girl abducted and assaulted was white. East Palo Alto is overwhelmingly Hispanic and black and probably less than 5% white. Both she and the suspects were almost certainly Hispanic or black, and if they catch them, I’ll find out about the latter.

    I carefully read my local newspapers and since ethnic sociology is interesting to me, I keep a close eye on the crime reports. Most of the time the racial background is apparent on the more serious cases, either based on description or after the suspects are arrested, on name.

    My general area is about 25-30% Hispanic and maybe 2-3% black. I’d say Hispanics and blacks commit about an equal share of the serious crimes, with perhaps a little more due to the latter. I’d say these two groups together account for about 80-90% of the total, hardly surprising since the local whites and Asians are mostly affluent executives and technologists, hardly likely to commit street crimes.

    Those are the apparent facts, and you can make of them as you will.

  375. Ron Unz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You have some kind of assumption about most illegal aliens being urban dwellers.

    Not at all. Please do keep in mind that my Hispanic Crime article that you say you just read focused only very slightly upon illegal immigrants. My entire analysis was on *Hispanics*, whether legal, illegal, or citizens. And Census data conclusively proves that Hispanics are very heavily urbanized, much more so than whites.

    Actually, almost everyone in the subject generally admits that illegal immigrants have relatively low crime rates. The much sharper debate is whether the next generation does as well, and I think that was substantially addressed by my article in question.

    The last time I looked, roughly half of all federal inmates were incarcerated for immigration violations. As I pointed out, almost all ordinary street crimes—murder, robbery, rape, theft, assault—are prosecuted in state courts. I doubt the average street thug is usually sent away for interstate kidnapping.

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  376. @Ron Unz

    Which right-wingers have been kicked off for spreading factually incorrect information about illegal alien crime? Any?

    Dissent from whatever we should call this strange ideology is functionally treated by the so-called SJWs as heresy. Conflicts over illegal immigration are only a smart part of this. Milo Yiannapolous for instance barred from Twitter as a result of attacking…an actress (who happens to be black and not very attractive).

    If you doubt me have a look at some of the prominent members of the so-called Resistance:

    Here’s Ed Krassenstein, a Jewish white collar criminal from Florida who latched onto the Resistance grift: https://twitter.com/edkrassen

    Lots of content, though nothing about immigration recently. Though no doubt once the “Caravan” arrives Ed and his less notable Brian will be on the subject again.

    Then there’s the claim most senior tech executives have extensive experience with his hispanics. Most of these executives come from upper middle class backgrounds and attended elite universities prior to entering the business sector. Very few of them are thus likely to have much experience with hispanics, other than minor interactions with domestic service workers.

    As for the power of major tech companies, indeed it is considerable. This has led Tucker Carlson for instance to question his traditional free market conservative views. Clearly the federal government will be forced to regulate these entities. This task just grew harder with the loss of the House, but there’s a lot the executive branch can do on its own by using the existing framework of antitrust and civil rights law.

    The problem has recently started spreading outside of the tech companies for the first time. Major banks and retailers are now putting their thumbs on the scales against the firearms industry. See this news piece from the summer: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/georgia/articles/2018-06-24/gun-industry-sees-banks-as-new-threat-to-2nd-amendment

    This is new for them, but Google for instance has been refusing to accept gun ads for a very long time: https://support.google.com/adspolicy/answer/6014299?hl=en

    Knives and tobacco come in for bans as well.

    Somehow I don’t think that if we agree to only disseminate empirically accurate information about illegal alien crime that Corporate America will agree not to censor us.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  377. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    The last time I looked, roughly half of all federal inmates were incarcerated for immigration violations.

    I believe only 6.5% are incarcerated for immigration violations, Mr. Unz. Almost 50% of offenders in the federal prison system are incarcerated for drug offenses http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2621043 , according to this source:

    Last Updated: Saturday, 27 October 2018

    https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp

    Archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20181023210718/https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  378. peterAUS says:
    @anon

    True, up to a point.

    You left out the consumer (r)evolution. Mass.

    Engineering for quality before; engineering for consumer market as we speak.

    Before, the work was done for the system.
    I am sure you were able to explain some things to senior management once upon a time.
    Now, the work is done for a common person carrying a smart phone.
    Explaining to them…I am sure you know how it works.

    That’s one of reasons the industry doesn’t need tech people as much. It needs somebody who can relate, communicate, with a customer.

    Well…if you are really good, there IS one area you could try to find a refugee in: security.
    Good luck.

  379. peterAUS says:
    @llloyd

    You are onto something there, but….I don’t think it’s given.
    Besides….there IS a difference between North and South Island there.
    I just think that what’s happening in USA isn’t the same what’s been happening in NZ. Things there are, IMHO, a bit different…more….complicated.
    Or..to put it bluntly: it’s not about Maoris, it’s about “progtards”. They lost the plot.
    Anyway….neither place nor time to get into that topic here.

  380. Ron Unz says:
    @MarkinLA

    Well I only needed 7 pages to get to J.S on a fishing boat in Virginia (assumed white) , Madison Wells, Molly Tibbets, Charles Byrdic, Veronica Jester, Joyce Cluchey, Ann Farrin, Neidy Roche, Maria Larin, Dixie Rios, Laura Abarca, Brittany Baez, and Russel Fisk.

    Now I know your are going to say that somebody with a Hispanic surname doesn’t count but with a first name like Dixie I am guessing a long time family resident of the South. Why do you think it is OK for illegals to murder anybody who isn’t a middle class white? How does that make any difference to people who don’t want them here?

    Well, you made some effort at your end, so I’ll try to do the same, though you may not appreciate it.

    First, there’s absolutely no evidence “J.S.” was white. Moreover, Rios, Abarca, and Baez are obvious Hispanic names.

    Meanwhile, Ann Farin and Neidy Roche were both prostitutes:

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/19/undocumented-immigrant-confesses-to-killing-prostitutes-dumping-bodies-in-street-cops/

    Madison Wells was killed by her boyfriend:

    https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/09/13/new-jersey-teenager-stabbed-to-death-madison-wells-bryan-cordero-castro-long-branch/

    Charles Byrdic was killed by a reckless driver:

    https://www.heraldonline.com/news/local/crime/article216291150.html

    Veronica Jester looks non-white, and with no motive specified, it’s not impossible that they were dating:

    https://www.witn.com/content/news/Deputies-investigate-murder-outside-of-Pink-Hill-490259751.html

    The Joyce Cluchey case certainly seems a very odd one, with no apparent motive and the suspect with no criminal record strangely claiming self-defense. The woman also apparently had a strange tattoo all around her neck and it sounds like she was probably a street prostitute:

    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/il-joyce-cluchey-30-chicago-18-may-2018-arrest.375831/

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/murder-joyce-cluchey-archer-heights-garage-missing-person-chicago-southwest-side/

    Russel Fisk was a tattoo artist killed by someone “who heard voices.”

    https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article211601869.html

    My challenge was to find TEN middle-class whites (including Molly Tibbetts) murdered by illegal immigrants, excluding wives and girlfriends and that sort of thing.

    Since most people don’t consider street prostitutes as “middle class” people, I think we’re basically left with…Molly Tibbets plus a tattoo artist killed by someone “who heard voices.” Personally, I’m not sure I regard tattoo artists as middle class people, but I’ll be generous give you that one. But maybe now it’s clear why poor Mollie Tibbets became such a internationally-famous victim.

    Remember, I’m perfectly willing to accept that TEN middle-class whites are probably killed each year by illegals. I’m just saying that you’d probably need to work pretty hard to reach that total.

    And I don’t think my standards are too unreasonable. For example, when I looked at the Daily Stormer in the last two days, all the EIGHT cases of whites killed by blacks seemed like pretty middle-class people to me.

    In addition, ICE statistics showed 1800 illegals arrested for homicide.

    http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/murder/fact-ice-arrested-1800-foreign-born-killers-in-2017/

    Nope. There’s absolutely no indication that the 1,800 killers arrested in 2017 were illegals rather than just foreign-born, i.e. legal immigrants. The problem is that activists get very lazy and to them “illegal immigrant” just means “bad immigrant.”

    Right now, 14% of America’s population is foreign-born, of whom about half are still non-citizens. Since we have over 15,000 annual homicides, if this group was “average” in homicidal tendencies, you’d expect it to commit about 2,100 murders. The web page claims that 1,800 “foreign-born killers” were arrested in 2017, which would make the population pretty average. But it also seems to imply that the figure refers only to non-citizens, so there’s some ambiguity. Even if it’s the latter case, I’d really need to know the age-distribution before I could say whether they were heavily over-represented in murders.

  381. peterAUS says:
    @map

    Informative, too.
    And….hopefully you are correct.

    • Replies: @map
  382. Just another anecdote!

    Illegal alien released by Philadelphia mayor went on to rape child

    It’s funny how these anecdotes seem to have such bad consequences.

  383. Art says:

    I was behind Mama Mexico in the grocery checkout counter the other day. She had three children – they were all well behaved, happy, and eager to help Mom bag her groceries. Mama bought good food, fresh vegetables and meats (I would like to eat at her house).

    So, what is the problem with Mama Mexico and her brood? It is political. All four of them are going to vote for more leftist un-American government. The Jew controlled media will pump them up with a charade of victimhood. The Jews will build hate between them and me. All four of them will vote against my middleclass heritage of freedom and personal responsibility.

    It has already happened in California. Thanks to the Latino voters – the balance of political power in California has shifted to the extreme left. The white middleclass with its values (both moderate left and right), that built California into a world class economy – has lost political control.

    With most every crossing of our US border by a Latino – this freedom losing process accelerates, for all of America.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Trump’s Mexican crime and anchor baby arguments are FAKE news.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @RobinG
  384. Ron Unz says:
    @FKA Max

    I believe only 6.5% are incarcerated for immigration violations, Mr. Unz. Almost 50% of offenders in the federal prison system are incarcerated for drug offenses

    Hmm… Here’s what I’d seen mentioned in the NYT: “half of all federal arrests are immigration-related”

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/10/immigration-offenses-make-up-a-growing-share-of-federal-arrests/

    Here’s one very important possibility to consider. Obviously, there’s a lot of cross-border drug-smuggling, especially by Mexican “mules,” who just go back and forth carrying drugs. Now I’d assume that when any of them are caught, they’re sentenced to federal prison on drug charges, and weapons charges as well if they were armed. So maybe that’s where a substantial portion of the federal inmate population come from.

    But they’re not really “immigrants”—they’re Mexican drug smugglers who got caught at the border.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  385. @Ron Unz

    Ron,

    As you (and many others here) no doubt recall, over a year ago I wrote an article entitled The Muslim Rape is coming to getcha!… which is largely (though not solely) about a similar sort of narrative in Europe — that attributes an outrageous level of criminality to Muslim refugees, particularly crimes of a sexual nature. They paint a picture of current-day Germany or Sweden, for example, in which white women are being raped all over the place by the… err… Muslim savages, I guess. Publications like Breitbart and VDare are heavily invested in this narrative certainly, as are some of the right-wing racialist bloggers on this very website.

    In the article in question, I called this the MRA (Muslim Rape Army) synthetic narrative. Now, my conclusions on this (and my opinion has not changed one iota since) is that this is, just like the story that illegals in the U.S. are raping and murdering all over the place, basically nonsense.

    As best I can tell:

    There is NO “rape epidemic”, by any reasonable definition, taking place in Germany or Sweden or any other country in Europe.

    Now, to be clear, this does not mean that nobody ever gets raped! Obviously, in a country with 80 million people like Germany, there are plenty of cases in a given year, and in turn, some of those rapes (a minority of them) are committed by Muslim migrants. So, a more precise formulation would be:

    There is NO “rape epidemic” taking place AND whatever raping that does take place is NOT being done disproportionately by people of Muslim background.

    I was already pretty sure of this when I wrote that piece, but every bit of information that I have come across since I wrote that has only reinforced my view on this. For example, consider this:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugees-responsible-for-tiny-proportion-of-sex-crimes-in-germany-despite-far-right-claims-following-a6884166.html

    The upshot is that the police in Germany are reluctant to break down crime statistics by race but there was a leaked internal report and it reported that there were 1.6 million migrants from the Middle East in Germany, or 2% of the population, and they accounted for about 3.6% of the sex crimes.

    Well, granted, on the face of it, that means that they were committing such crimes at a rate 80% higher than their share in the population. However, the above is uncorrected for the fact that the refugees that Merkel let in were disproportionately young males. My best guess is that if you corrected for that, you would see that the migrants were not raping at a higher rate than the existing German population. In any case, for there to be a “rape epidemic” attributable to these people, given that they are only 2% of the population, obviously, their propensity to rape would have to be very many times that of the rest of the population, correct? And that does not seem to be the case.

    I came across that data after writing the article, but even before then, I was quite confident in my claim that the whole thing was basically nonsense. Certainly, any serious attempt to verify the MRA narrative was kind of like grasping at air. One ended up seeing that so many of the notorious cases being pushed in the right-wing echo chamber just turn out to be hoaxes. I wasn’t the first person to realize this, of course. There are so many hoax stories related to refugees that a couple of German ladies run a site called hoaxmap.org, which tries to document all of them, and that is quite an undertaking apparently!

    Regardless, I came under some very nasty (and often personal) attack for saying what I said in the article.

    Well, all of the above is a lead-up for a certain question I feel I need to ask:

    Ron, if you believe that all this stuff about the criminality of Hispanic migrants in the U.S. is baseless nonsense, why would you think that broadly similar stories being peddled about Muslims in Europe are particularly different? In the discussion under my MRA article, you sided clearly with the people attacking me. You did not come up with a particularly strong argument, as I recall. Basically, you argued (like the rest of the people attacking me) that whatever stories being told must be true because…. people were telling said stories… Maybe that is a mischaracterization of your “argument”, but I don’t think so. For example, in one comment under that article, you wrote:

    I also have the impression there’s been an outpouring of other sexual assaults by Muslim immigrant men against European women in Sweden, Germany, and various other Northern European countries over the last few years. Unless you can produce some plausible evidence to the contrary, the MSM accounts I’ve seen here and there carry the day.

    That was here: http://www.unz.com/article/the-muslim-rape-army-is-coming-to-getcha/#comment-1945286

    It does not seem to me that your argument there is particularly different from: “I heard this story a lot so the story must be true.” On those grounds, every urban legend out there simply must be true!

    Now, here you write:

    And don’t forget that Silicon Valley is very heavily immigrant/Hispanic, and most of these top Tech execs know perfectly well from their real-life experiences that Hispanics don’t commit a lot of crime.

    So, the Silicon Valley execs know that there is no huge Hispanic criminality in California because…. they live in California…

    Well, I have a friend here in Spain who is half-German. His mother is German and he grew up speaking German at home. After I wrote that “Muslim Rape Army” piece, this friend became very interested in the topic and started asking the Germans he knew about this horrible rape epidemic. It was summertime and there were parties he went to around here full of Germans. He would broach the topic to people there. Granted, I wasn’t there, but he reported what he found. Results of his inquiries into the Muslim Rape Epidemic, basic summary:

    Nobody knew WTF he was talking about!

    Isn’t that strange? Well, okay, what do those people know? They just live in Germany, eh? Obviously, there is a Muslim rape epidemic going on all around them and they are blissfully unaware of it, I guess. Just as there is a Hispanic crime wave going on all around you and you are unaware of it…

    Well, I should close this message here. I suppose I made my point. There is one last thing I would add, though.

    The central point I was getting at in that essay was not actually that the incidents I was referring to were hoaxes, or that there was no Muslim Rape Army. Truth told, I actually just figured that most people with a few brain cells to rub together basically knew that the MRA story was nonsense. (I was wrong on that…) But, regardless, what the essay was really about was the overall milieu in which baseless stories like this can take on a life of their own and it becomes basically impossible to dislodge them. I called this the “Culture of Bullshit”. That is what the essay was really about, this degraded intellectual culture in which people simply repeat these stories that have no basis and there is no way to correct them!

    There is no way to tell Sailer or Derbyshire or any of your “ace bloggers” that there is no “Muslim Rape epidemic” going on in Europe, that it’s a hoax. These people and their followers do not care whether the story is true or not. They only care whether it is ideologically useful.

    You did not seem to understand that this was the real point of the essay. But perhaps you understood the point and were only affecting that you did not. I honestly have no idea. It is up to you to clarify, if you wish to do so.

    Is your position currently that there really is a “Muslim rape epidemic” going on in Germany but similar narratives about illegal hispanics in the U.S., on the other hand, are just nonsense?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  386. CalDre says:
    @animalogic

    You are missing at least two fundamental distinctions:

    (1) foreign corporations bring jobs; immigrants take jobs. Yes, immigrants indirectly create jobs by spending some money, but since a lot of the money is sent abroad, they create fewer jobs than a local; moreover, the “add-on” effect is also true for the jobs created by the foreign corporation (whose workers spend money and create additional jobs).

    (2) foreign corporations send home a far smaller percentage of revenues. Net profit margins in manufacturing are around 2%; assuming all that is repatriated, only 2% of revenues leave the country. Whereas labor constitutes the largest cost component and immigrants repatriate a far larger share of their income to their home country.

    Look at it this way: would you rather have 100 foreign corporations entering the US opening 100 plants employing 100,000 Americans, or have 1 million illegal immigrants entering US taking jobs at cutthroat rates and sending, say, half their money abroad?

    If you want the US to become a third world shithole, you’ll pick the latter option.

  387. MarkinLA says:
    @Ron Unz

    Rios, Abarca, and Baez. Their first names are not Hispanic. You are changing the goal posts. You can’t say definitely that somebody who is a prostitute is not middle class. If you limit it to only Becky’s with a 5th Avenue apartment worth more than 20 million dollars, of course, there won’t be many. And as I stated I only got to page 7 which was about sometime in May.

    Molly Tibbets was not famous because a murder by an illegal was so rare. It was famous due to all the media covered attempts by the family and community to find her. They thought she was just missing and maybe disoriented and would soon show up.

    Since we have over 15,000 annual homicides, if this group was “average” in homicidal tendencies, you’d expect it to commit about 2,100 murders.

    That 15,000 includes the approximately 7500 committed by the 13% black population. So 73% of the population is responsible for 5700 murders? We don’t know how many black foreigners contribute to the foreigner homicides so there would be a slight difference. So we have 14% of the population comitting 1800 homicides and 73% of the population comitting 5700 homicides. Doesn’t sound too average to me.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  388. Art says:
    @Ron Unz

    Frankly, I’m also pretty surprised and somewhat skeptical. But Wikipedia claims that 48% of Brazilians are “white,” being entirely or mostly European in ancestry

    Latin is a language – not a race. Latino refers to those who mostly speak Spanish. Mexico is a country – not a race.

    We are being manipulated into “race hate” think and speak – when the problem is between countries and their sovereignty.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  389. Bruce Lee says:

    What about Latino IQ, which is on average 92?

    What about the cost of immigration?

    In 2012, 51 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) reported that they used at least one welfare program during the year, compared to 30 percent of native households. Welfare in this study includes Medicaid and cash, food, and housing programs.

    Welfare use is high for both new arrivals and well-established immigrants. Of households headed by immigrants who have been in the country for more than two decades, 48 percent access welfare.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  390. MarkinLA says:
    @Ron Unz

    The one you dismissed as drug related seems to be a case of a guy pissed off because his roommates evicted him.

    https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/crime/2018/11/07/stolen-gun-linked-springfield-murders-luis-perez/1918865002/

    Perez, a New Jersey man who recently come to Springfield, got kicked out of a home in the 900 block of East Locust by his roommates.
    Police say Starr drove Perez and another man, Aaron D. Anderson, back to the home, where Perez shot and killed two men and injured others.
    Police later identified the two deceased men as 38-year-old Steven R. Marler and 23-year-old Aaron J. Hampton.

    Police say a day after the double homicide, Perez shot Starr six times in her home in 2100 block of North Oakland Avenue, killing her.

    That looks like a three-fer to me.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  391. Hari Seldon says: • Website

    This is a good article insofar as it focuses attention on the real issues with mass immigration. Conservatives need to understand that the primary problem is not crime, but rather the societal, political, and economic transformation that mass immigration imposes on the US.

    I am not entirely clear on how Mr Unz feels about it, but his description of what happened to California is chilling. The doubling of the population and resulting total destruction of the “California dream,” turning the state into the country’s poorest, is *not* a good outcome and most Americans do *not* want the same process to repeat itself on a continental scale.

    Moreover, the collapse of the Republican Party in California is certainly ominous for all Republicans and small-government conservatives nationwide, who find the prospect of permanent Democratic rule over the Unites States unacceptable. Again, this is a much bigger issue than Hispanic crime.

    Mr Unz’s linked article proposing a “grand bargain” on immigration reform is worth reading. I would agree that conservatives need to aim at permanently reducing the rate of legal immigration, but I think the scale of reduction should be closer to 100%.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  392. Ron Unz says:
    @Art

    So, what is the problem with Mama Mexico and her brood? It is political. All four of them are going to vote for more leftist un-American government. The Jew controlled media will pump them up with a charade of victimhood. The Jews will build hate between them and me. All four of them will vote against my middleclass heritage of freedom and personal responsibility…It has already happened in California.

    I tend to doubt that. Certainly, Jewish groups are extremely powerful in California, and pretty much all the elected officials except maybe for one or two of the most leftist are very pro-Israel. But that’s generally true everywhere else as well.

    In fact, isn’t it mostly very conservative white parts of the South that are trying to pass those crazy laws making it illegal to support BDS?

    Meanwhile, California certainly has all sorts of serious problems, many of them closely related to immigration, just as I discussed in my article. But racial conflict is just not among them. I can’t remember the last time there was a major racial controversy in the state.

    The Legislature is very liberal and does all sorts of crazy things relating to recycling, environmentalism, and trans-gender bathrooms. But I think that’s the same sort of nonsense you find in 95% white Vermont.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @James Scott
  393. megabar says:

    There are several factors that make it difficult to perceive what the future will look like. We can reasonably divide these factors into those that will help the US stay the same, even as its demographics change, and those that will make it change to be more like the original countries of its immigrants:

    Positive factors:
    * Prosperity reduces tensions and crime across all races. If the US stays wealthy enough, we’ll be ok.
    * Technology continues to reduce the need for labor and smart middle-men for wealth generation. It may be good enough to simply have enough innovators at the top to preserve national wealth, combined with stronger redistribution for easing class tension.
    * We’re getting a blend of immigrants; some of them are not particularly prone to crime (Hispanics), and some are less violent than existing Americans (Asians).
    * Birth rates of the least adapted Americans appears to be falling as fast as that of the most adapted. This will delay, and perhaps eliminate, radical dysgenic trends.
    * Genetic research may develop moral eugenic techniques, in which case racial stock becomes much less relevant.

    Negative risks:
    * The lack of any natural selection allows less adapted people to out-procreate more adapted, if their fertility rates increase.
    * The previous point, played out worldwide (i.e. Sailer’s most important graph), may cause large increases in refugees into Western countries, even if immigrants residing in the US have low fertility rates.
    * Americans have become so tolerant that they are unable to defend themselves against more aggressive cultural values. It would not shock me to see immigrants assert their values on us.
    * Assortative mating will likely increase the divide between the haves and have-nots, increasing class (and thus racial) tensions.
    * As minorities gain political power (which they are only now beginning to do), they may start to put in policies that reduce prosperity. That is, the peace Unz talks about may simply be momentum that will eventually fail.
    * Racial tensions in a multi-racial society are likely to increase if prosperity falls.
    * Some of the racial peace-through-prosperity has likely been created via debt, which can not last forever.

    I’m sure there are plenty more. It’s impossible to know which factors will play large or small roles, so it’s hard to predict what will happen. Without radical technological advancement, though, I do think Brazil-like, but with more overall wealth, is the most likely outcome.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  394. Ron Unz says:
    @Thorfinnsson

    Which right-wingers have been kicked off for spreading factually incorrect information about illegal alien crime? Any?

    No, it’s a matter of broader credibility. When you take positions that everyone knows are ridiculously false, you lose your credibility on other things that are difficult to check. So Trump and his friends say absurd things about Hispanic Crime, and therefore the Tech executives tend to disbelieve them when they deny the stories in the New York Times and the rest of MSM that they were involved in some dastardly plot with Russia.

    Then there’s the claim most senior tech executives have extensive experience with his hispanics. Most of these executives come from upper middle class backgrounds and attended elite universities prior to entering the business sector. Very few of them are thus likely to have much experience with hispanics, other than minor interactions with domestic service workers.

    That just isn’t correct. I’d say that something like 60-70% of all the service employees and blue-collar types in Palo Alto and much of the rest of Silicon Valley are Hispanic. Basically, in your office almost everyone is white or Asian, except for your black Diversity manager, and maybe the Hispanic support staff. But whenever you go shopping or get something to eat or go to a movie or get your car fixed or have work done on your home, you’re mostly dealing with Hispanics. Plus the nannies and gardeners, of course.

    So a pretty substantial fraction of everyone you’ve encountered in your day-to-day life over the last few years have been immigrant Hispanics, and they all seem like perfectly nice, pleasant people. Then Trump comes along and tells you they’re actually killers and rapists, and you just decide he’s an idiot.

    You need to realize that for economic reasons, there are very few working-class whites left in Silicon Valley. So all those sorts of jobs are filled with immigrants, mostly Hispanics.

  395. CalDre says:
    @Sparkon

    In my youth, I saw many Americans working those terrible jobs without any 10 foot pole.

    I spend a lot of time in California desert farmland, and I don’t see any Blacks or Whites (apart from owners on tractors) picking fruits or vegetables in the desert sun and heat. I wasn’t writing about your perceptions of your “youth” but about reality today.

    Darwin wrote no laws.

    So you are too dim to know even what “Darwin’s Law” means. Not one bit surprised, I have to confess.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  396. megabar says:
    @Ron Unz

    > No, it’s a matter of broader credibility. When you take positions that everyone knows are ridiculously false, you lose your credibility on other things that are difficult to check.

    I agree with this. The problem is that the actual reasons to push back against immigration are of two basic varieties:

    1. HBD. That is, the variability of IQ and other traits related to wealth generation, crime, etc.
    2. Multicultural societies, independent of genetic differences, can lead to violence and tension

    Point two can generally be defeated by bringing up the various European immigrants in the 20th century, which is, I think a credible argument. But point one, which is refractory, and thus the most critical argument, is not even allowed to be spoken in modern society.

    So, if you’d like to argue against immigration, there is nothing credible that you are allowed to say. This is why the right can not logically win the argument in the public sphere, and why they have no choice but to argue ridiculous things. Which, as you point out, is a losing proposition.

    What is the solution?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  397. Art says:
    @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, California certainly has all sorts of serious problems, many of them closely related to immigration, just as I discussed in my article. But racial conflict is just not among them.

    I agree – basically Mexicans and Americans do not see race, when they look at each other. Black and white in America, is an entirely different matter. It is the Jewish media that turns it into a power seeking, shaming put down “race” thing.

    The conflict is about the people of one country invading another country and upsetting the balance of political power.

    Trump is way off on the crime and anchor baby FAKE political issues – but the invasion problem is real.

    Think Peace — Art

  398. CalDre says:
    @utu

    because you wanted to hide the quantitative rates of criminality for different ethnic groups

    Why not crunch the numbers and prove your point instead of whining about someone else not doing it and imputing nefarious motives (which is quite rude actually).

    • Replies: @utu
  399. CalDre says:
    @anonymous

    just “noticing” Islamic terrorist slaughters in Europe and the UK or the Pakistani Muslim, North African migrant sexual assaults sexual grooming rapes of Girls in Rotherham England and Cologne Germany!

    I see horribly bigoted posts about these topics all the time. Usually blaming every single Muslim for the crimes of each Muslim (but of course, each White is utterly blameless for the crimes of other Whites). Often calling for the genocide of Muslims (often couched in such ingenious terms as “turn the Middle East into glass”).

    If even those posts survive the censors, and I see them constantly, what must you have written to merit banishment?

    By the way, pedophilia is rampant in UK is at the very highest levels. The “Paki gangs” work for the House of Lords, more or less. But folks like you always focus exclusively on the gangs, and never on who covered up for them, and why (always blaming it on some liberal fascination with Muslims – instead of rightly pointing to the fact that the rulers employ these gangs).

  400. Ron Unz says:
    @megabar

    So, if you’d like to argue against immigration, there is nothing credible that you are allowed to say. This is why the right can not logically win the argument in the public sphere, and why they have no choice but to argue ridiculous things. Which, as you point out, is a losing proposition.

    What is the solution?

    Actually, I think I worked out the solution several years ago. Some leading long-time anti-immigration activists told me that they were astonished that after several decades someone had now come up with an entirely new idea. It’s long, but I think you’ll find it quite interesting:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/immigration-republicans-and-the-end-of-white-america-singlepage/

    And a couple of years ago, I developed an additional blue-print for politically implementing this sort of approach:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/a-grand-bargain-on-immigration-reform-2/

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @megabar
    , @Tulip
  401. @Ron Unz

    You need to realize that for economic reasons, there are very few working-class whites left in Silicon Valley. So all those sorts of jobs are filled with immigrants, mostly Hispanics.

    I find this crazy … working class whites need jobs as well.

  402. peterAUS says:
    @megabar

    ….Brazil-like, but with more overall wealth, is the most likely outcome.

    Agree.

  403. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    But they’re not really “immigrants”—they’re Mexican drug smugglers who got caught at the border.

    I believe many or most of them are Hispanic U.S. immigrants or U.S. citizens/residents, Mr. Unz.

    Since Mexican citizens are “only” 12% of the overall/total federal prison population

    particularly Mexicans, who are also about 12% of the federal prison population https://web.archive.org/web/20181021232251/https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_citizenship.jsp

    http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2622663 ,

    but Hispanics/Latinos are the majority of “enterprise-level”/federal drug offenders

    Latinos Got 77 Percent of Federal Pot Sentences Last Year

    http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2621043

    who comprise almost half of all federal inmates http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2622728 ,

    and Hispanics (who don’t self-identify as white http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2621516 ) are also 32% of the overall/total federal inmate population https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_ethnicity.jsp .

    So, at least half of all Hispanic federal inmates are American citizens/residents, in my opinion, and not Mexican et al. citizens.

    Mexican drug cartels, I believe, prefer and mostly recruit “mules” and assassins etc. who have American citizenship or dual American-Mexican citizenship since they can more easily/legally cross the border, etc.

    [MORE]

    Like these guys, for example:

    Mexican drug cartel’s American killers


    CNN: American head of Mexican drug cartel?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Valdez_Villarreal

    Some young Mexican/Hispanic Americans look up to and admire drug traffickers because of all the money they make etc.

    From High School Star to Mexican Drug Cartel

  404. Anon[884] • Disclaimer says:
    @TRASH(NOT)

    %%%They%%% are either smarter, sager, a combination of the thereof, than the others, or epse know some magic charm all the others are in ignorance of.
    What explanation would you choose for °°°their°°° narrative control?

    • Replies: @TRASH(NOT)
  405. Da Wei says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    When you find out, please let me know.

    Remember all the pre-2000 talk about shit hitting the fan? Then nothing happened? Well, maybe it did, but in slow motion. Maybe it was one of those slow turning ceiling fans like the ones they used to have in Chinese restaurants.

  406. Anon[884] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    “My impression is that most of the Tech execs are rather politically naive, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they vaguely believe all that crazy RussiaGate nonsense.”

    So they don’t fake it while just allying themselves with power?

    Never considered that scenario, but could be.

  407. @Ron Unz

    PHOENIX – WHITE INCOME BRACKETS

    In order to completely avoid Cholos you’d have to live in a 6 figure income bracket. Below that, you’ll have enough contact with Mestizos for sudden mindless violence or chaos to erupt. Parking lots, bus stations, hallways of apartment complexes, sidewalks. Usually they are strangers and have no motive.

    Whites who get into cocaine are harm’s way especially. If the white is into crystal meth or pills then he is in poor white trailer parks or low-rent neighborhoods. But in the 1990′s cocaine was popular with whites and many of them were put into harm’s way of Mexicans as a result. Especially white women. And many prostitutes use cocaine or heroin. So unsurprisingly, they would become victims.

    Most Cholos are not “foreign-born”. They are second or third generation Americans, no different from myself or Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @epochehusserl
  408. @Ron Unz

    Nowadays (Fed Bureau of Prisons stats as of 2017), fewer than ten percent of federal prisoners are locked up for immigration crimes. Drug crimes still account for early half of all federal prisoners.

    You’re right, of course, that violent crimes are almost always prosecuted in state court under state law, not in federal court.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  409. vinteuil says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    http://www.unz.com/runz/a-grand-bargain-on-immigration-reform-2/

    [MORE]

    Outlines of a Possible “Grand Bargain”

    What might be the principal components of a legislative package able to bridge such a seemingly wide ideological chasm between pro-immigrant Democrats and anti-immigration Republicans?

    Enacting Large, Permanent Cuts to Legal Immigration
    One central element would be large, permanent cuts in the rate of legal immigration. As mentioned, the bulk of these new arrivals tend to be eager workers, who exert severe downward wage pressure on their working-class competitors, with previous immigrants probably suffering the most economic damage. American business interests may benefit in the short run by keeping their labor costs as low as possible, but our working population suffers, and the resulting low-wage society reduces the consumer spending that drives our economy.

    Furthermore, such elevated levels of immigration over the last few decades have led to an American population growth rate that is exceptionally high for a developed country. An exponentially growing population drives up housing prices and other asset values, greatly increasing the wealth of the One Percent but further injuring the economic prospects of ordinary Americans and worsening our economic inequality. I think it is hardly coincidental that the last forty years of high immigration rates have exactly coincided with forty years of economic stagnation for most ordinary Americans, together with an unprecedented concentration of wealth at the top.

    Permanently reducing the rate of legal immigration, perhaps by a factor of 50% or more, would solve many of these problems, with the exact allocation of the remaining slots being subject to negotiation.

    Raising the Minimum Wage

    Obviously, large cuts in legal immigration would be meaningless unless the legislative package also contained credible means of drastically reducing future illegal immigration, a promise often made but never kept. However, a crucial difference is that the prospective political coalition being assembled would exclude most of the traditionally pro-immigration, pro-business wing of the Republican Party, thereby allowing a much different approach to the issue, which might also greatly broaden the potential popular appeal.

    For example, I have long argued that the best and most effective means of reducing illegal immigration is a large increase in the minimum wage.

    The vast majority of illegal immigrants come to America for jobs, and our pundits are correct in saying “they take the jobs that Americans won’t.” But the reason that Americans won’t take those jobs is often that the wages are just too low. Only recently-arrived illegal immigrants are desperate enough to take many of those terrible, low-paying jobs.

    A large hike in the federal minimum wage—perhaps to $12 per hour—would eliminate this problem. Americans and established immigrants would flock to such positions once the wages were more reasonable, while the relatively small number of jobs that disappear would be those that require exploitation of an ultra-low-wage workforce, jobs that should have no place in a developed economy.

    Enforcing minimum wage laws is far easier than enforcing immigration laws, and penalties could be strengthened for cases of serious “wage theft.” Once the magnetic lure of low-wage job openings had vanished, other immigration enforcement measures would immediately become much more effective, and future inflows could be reduced to minimal levels. In effect, a high and strictly enforced minimum wage functions as an invisible economic wall, probably much more effective at deterring border-crossers than anything built of concrete and steel.

    Meanwhile, a much higher minimum wage would also automatically reduce many of means-tested social welfare benefits currently going to low wage workers. American businesses would be forced to pay their own employees rather than shift so much of the cost to ordinary American taxpayers.

    Over the last few years, raising the federal minimum wage has become a central policy goal of most Democrats, but has invariably been blocked in Congress by conservative Republicans. However, once that proposal is reframed as an immigration control measure and embedded within a much broader package focused on that issue, many of the more rightwing Republicans would probably come on board, propelled by their stridently anti-immigration base. Meanwhile, incorporating a large minimum wage hike would guarantee the enthusiasm of those Democrats less concerned with immigration issues.

    Dealing Humanely with Illegal Immigrants
    A much higher minimum wage combined with strengthened immigration enforcement measures should be able to reduce future illegal immigration to minimal levels, while large, permanent cuts in legal immigration should eliminate the population pressure driving America toward becoming a low-wage society and reducing the quality-of-life for American workers.

    But any agreement on these necessary longer-term policies would also have to deal humanely with millions of existing undocumented residents, who had arrived during an era when the government did not seriously enforce its immigration laws.

    Any politically viable proposal would need to offer permanent residency and perhaps eventual citizenship to individuals who have already lived in the United States for many years, had no criminal record, and possessed strong ties to the local community, such as American-born family members.

    Meanwhile, a large hike in the minimum wage and stronger employment enforcement laws would eliminate the jobs of many of lower-skilled immigrant workers too recently arrived to qualify for a change in status. Such existing illegal residents should be offered free transportation back to their home countries, together with a generous one-time cash settlement, perhaps as high as $5,000 or even $10,000 per adult, encouraging them to come forward and accept permanent deportation, an investment that would be very cost-effective for the American taxpayer. (Naturally such payments would require a written commitment not to return, enforced by serious criminal penalties.) With their jobs having disappeared, it seems likely that most of the more recently arrived immigrants would find such a financial offer very attractive, completely obviating the need for any harsh federal “deportation force.”

    Reforming the Abusive H-1B Immigration Visa System
    One of the strongest constituencies currently backing higher levels of immigration is Silicon Valley, primarily due to the acute shortage of H-1B visas for specially skilled foreigners, now capped at 85,000 per year.

    However, as a series of articles in the New York Times has demonstrated, this shortage is entirely artificial. Outsourcing companies have been gaming the H-1B system and capturing the bulk of the visas, then using these to import large numbers of low-wage immigrants as replacements for experienced, higher-paid American tech workers. Thus, the poorly-designed current visa system severely undercuts middle class wages while also harming the international competitiveness of America’s best technology firms by unreasonably restricting their own supply of elite foreign hires.

    An effective means of addressing this situation would be to reform the H-1B system by having the government auction off the visas, thereby ensuring that they go to those companies for which they provide the greatest economic value. Such a bidding process would also end the ongoing job loss and downward wage pressure experienced by regular workers in the industry.

    Incorporating such H-1B visa changes into the proposed immigration reform package might have an excellent chance of bringing major elements of the powerful technology industry into the political coalition supporting the legislation. Meanwhile, since the overall number of such visas would remain unchanged, anti-immigration groups are unlikely to protest this change, while tech worker organizations might become enthusiastic at the prospects of finally ending of the continual downward wage-pressure they have long been experiencing at the hands of low-end outsourcing companies.

    Well, I’ve seen worse suggestions. Might get more attention if stated more succinctly, and without all the extraneous stuff.

  410. @Bruce Lee

    Yes, and this is unaffordable for the rest of us.

    Two summers ago, my wife and I met a lovely South American (Latino but not Mexican) couple living in CT. We hit it off. They had three children, wife at home. The husband was proud to tell me that he was working fulltime and “don’t take nothing for free except the healthcare.” Which costs us plenty.

    And he didn’t mention that his fed, state, and local taxes couldn’t possibly cover the cost of his three kids attending government schools.

    And that’s “one of the good ones.” I liked the guy very much and would have invited them to dinner at our home if we lived there instead of just vacationing. But at this juncture — especially with a massive government debt and oncoming reduction in lower-skilled jobs by increased automation and robotics —my family and my country are not made better off by letting tens of millions more people like this (at best) settle here and become citizens.

  411. @RobinG

    I’ve had this discussion with Cuban Hispanics on other websites.

    The “white elite” of Latin America look like Al Pacino or Antonio Banderas. They could pass for 25% Indian Mestizos and Iron Eyes Cody and John Turturro were two Italian-Americans who always played Native Americans or Mestizos. Andy Garcia has always played Italian-Americans.

    If the ruling elite look like Dolph Lundgren or Roger Moore, they are clearly an alien race and it is a more obvious form of aparthied.

    This according to Hispanic posters.

    It has been pointed out that even among the pure white elite of Latin America there are distinctionns with Basque being considered superior to Canary Islanders.

  412. @Anon

    The “Latinos” or “Hispanics” of MS-13 or illegal immigration are “Wagon Burner” Red Indians. There is nothing Iberian about them.

  413. You need to realize that for economic reasons, there are very few working-class whites left in Silicon Valley. So all those sorts of jobs are filled with immigrants, mostly Hispanics.

    To expand on this, working class white kids are excluded from entry-level jobs and thus their entry into the workforce because of the presence of lots of cheap-labor Hispanics.

    This is bound to have consequences, and I think the offspring of people who have been here in the US for a long time come first.

    In Germany, in the ’30s the economic travails of ordinary Germans allowed a demagogue to rise to prominence and may well do so here in the US.

    There is no end of demagogue wannabees in any population. It only takes one to latch onto the most disaffected population …

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Pat Kittle
  414. surly says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Plenty of Americans know full well, now that the issue has been forcibly brought up, that legal immigration IS just as large a problem as illegal.

    This is exactly right. It is hard enough in SJW world to focus on illegal immigration. It would not be politically possible to make legal immigration a campaign issue. Our american mythology is “nation of immigrants” for crying out loud… normies simply couldn’t grok what was going on, and Trump would have lost.

    Trump did it exactly right, again.

  415. @Peripatetic commenter

    When I was flitting around Arizona and California it was the Oakie kids who seemed to bear the brunt of Hispanics. These were the grandchildren of Oklahoma migrants-most of them claimed Indian blood but were in appearance white.

    Their parents were blue-collar people through and through. They had grown up in places like the San Fernando Valley.

    Mexicans seem not only to take away their jobs but often physically imperil them.

  416. @Peripatetic commenter

    In Germany, in the ’30s the economic travails of ordinary Germans allowed a demagogue to rise to prominence and may well do so here in the US.

    There’s a whole lot more (((backstory))) to “the economic travails.”

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  417. Ron Unz says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Nowadays (Fed Bureau of Prisons stats as of 2017), fewer than ten percent of federal prisoners are locked up for immigration crimes. Drug crimes still account for early half of all federal prisoners.

    The whole thing is odd because just last year the NYT quoted an ultra-reliable Pew study saying that 50% of federal prosecutions were now for immigration violations:

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/10/immigration-offenses-make-up-a-growing-share-of-federal-arrests/

    Upthread I suggested a possible way to reconcile the differences, though I don’t know whether my speculation is correct:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/racial-politics-in-america-and-in-california/#comment-2622763

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  418. JLK says:

    It would be interesting to know the statistics on use of consumer credit among various ethnic groups, including debt to income ratio and default rates, and their impact on the long term health of the banking system.

    • Replies: @JLK
  419. utu says:
    @CalDre

    It was rude but the other option was to impute he was stupid and this would be even worse for him. He prides himself for his intellect more than his ethics.

    But as far his methodology I know what I am talking about. If I had access to the data I would do it correctly. Getting the data was several orders of magnitude harder that doing calculations that he did.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  420. DicA says:

    Think about what the Founders of this country had in mind. They never could have foreseen the things we would do. They sure didn’t think anchor babies from some faraway non European land would be something in our future. I believe I read there was a time when only white male land owners could vote. Our country is in a sad state.

  421. Ron Unz says:
    @MarkinLA

    Rios, Abarca, and Baez. Their first names are not Hispanic.

    Well, in my article I discussed Kevin de Leon. Both his parents were illegals and he’s said that many of his other relative and family members fall into that same category. As president of the CA State Senate, he’s always been considered one of CA’s top Hispanic elected officials and if his challenge to Dianne Feinstein had succeeded, he’d have certainly become the leading Hispanic in America. But his first name is “Kevin” so maybe he’s not really Hispanic.

    You can’t say definitely that somebody who is a prostitute is not middle class.

    I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree about this. I don’t consider street prostitutes “middle class” people, especially if they’re also described by the newspapers as being “homeless,” but I guess you do.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  422. @Ron Unz

    White female middle-class victims.

    Becky was in my dorm. I met her when she was 18. A Freshman. She was a normal girl. Sometime in the next year, she was introduced to cocaine by some Yuppie frat guys at a Fraternity Party.

    You meet girls like this at college. They come as freshman who were normal nice girls in high school and try cocaine and become coke whores.

    In Becky’s case, she quickly realized the source of cocaine was Hispanics. She eventually dropped out of college and I later heard she was arrested with some Cholos in a stolen car in Texas. She simply drifted into the cocaine scene.

    Kathleen was a rich local girl whose father owned a gas company. She was only 12 when she began using cocaine. For some period of time, her allowance paid for it.

    Then crack cocaine hit Michigan in the late eighties and in order to have a source for it, she became increasingly involved with blacks.

    One night, aged 15, she got so high on crack that after having group sex with her the blacks she was with simply dumped her nude and in a crack-induced seizure out in the middle of a suburban road where she rolled around naked.

    Blacks also burglarized her house.

    Dana was a reformed crack whore. She met some older guy while working as a stripper and married him and he left her with enough money to get into real estate. I rented a unit from her. At that time she was in her 30′s and perfectly normal. She had not smoked crack in years.

    But she told me about her experiences as a crack whore. Gang rapes by blacks. Forced Lesbian sex in prison when she was jailed for possession. And so on.

    Once a white woman gets into cocaine, she will be eventually gang-raped and pimped or preyed upon by Mexicans or blacks.

    If she gets hooked on meth, this is different. Meth is a white trash drug and Hispanics and blacks don’t supply it.

    • Replies: @James Scott
  423. megabar says:
    @Ron Unz

    > Actually, I think I worked out the solution several years ago

    Very interesting article — thanks!

    I have to think some of this over, as you’re looking at the problem in a way that I had not.

    Some immediate objections come to mind. For example, progressives will object over the disparate impact; that any improvement in our workers’ quality of life will only increase the demand to emigrate to the US (esp. in light of booming African population); that the left will likely propose government welfare for immigrants rendered jobless (I believe Germany and Sweden do this for their refugees, which is similar-but-different).

    Having said that, I think the idea of shaping demographics organically is a more effective and realistic approach — not to mention more humane. I would rather make the US a place that only people who deeply share its values will want to live, than to simply kick certain types of people out. But it’s difficult to get it right. Perhaps the carrot and stick can both be used.

    I just don’t really see many of them getting past the progressive voters, but perhaps I read too much Reddit, and put too much credence in what people write there.

  424. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    I’m guessing those are probably overwhelmingly “Catch and release” cases, who never get send into the federal prison system, but merely into the federal immigration detention system:

    In his testimony, Chertoff said that in the previous fiscal year, the U.S. Border Patrol immediately returned almost 900,000 Mexicans apprehended entering the U.S. to Mexico, but that of the 160,000 non-Mexican nationals apprehended, about 30,000 were removed from the U.S. Chertoff said that most others were released pending immigration hearings and that few appeared for the hearings. He called for more beds in immigration detention.[11] In July 2006, Chertoff indicated in House committee testimony that an infusion of funding for more immigration detention had allowed DHS to detain almost all non-Mexican illegal immigrants.[12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_and_release_(immigration)#Under_George_W._Bush

    Fact Check: A short history of ‘catch and release’

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  425. Ron Unz says:
    @MarkinLA

    The one you dismissed as drug related seems to be a case of a guy pissed off because his roommates evicted him…Police say a day after the double homicide, Perez shot Starr six times in her home in 2100 block of North Oakland Avenue, killing her.

    That looks like a three-fer to me.

    Well, it’s certainly possible, but like I said, I’d need to know more facts first…

    Basically, a couple of guys murdered their former roommates supposedly because “they had to go” since “they knew too much.”

    The gun was supplied to the killer by the (current) girlfriend of one of the dead males, allegedly in exchange for a heavy tattoo job, and he later used it to shoot her dead as well. She was covered with tattoos and posted lots of photos to social media showing her posing with the guy to whom she gave the gun, who then killed her boyfriend, and afterward her as well:

    http://thedailyhaze.com/sabrina-starr-aaron-hampton-luis-perez/

    With all the guns and tattoos floating around in that close circle of (former) friends, as well as the claimed motive, I’d really suspect they’d all been involved together in drug-dealing or other illegal activity, and got into a dispute over something, maybe over whose tattoos looked nicer. The whole thing only happened very recently, so the facts should eventually come out at trial.

    Anyway, it certainly doesn’t sound like the case of a middle-aged white CPA walking down the street who gets killed in a street robbery by a total stranger.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @MarkinLA
  426. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Frost

    Peter, when I first found Unz you were posting regularly and I recall enjoying your articles.

    You did censor my comments because I talked about Jews though. They were in no way threatening and I don’t see how they could have broke any laws even Canadian ones.

    To now say that you censored with a light touch, only censoring extremist comments is a flat out lie. No one else here at Unz censors comments and I applaud Unz for giving you the boot.

    If you want to be a mainstream writer, write for the Huffington Post. If you want to write for the leading alternative news source be prepared to defend your position or shut up and go home.

  427. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    @Unz.

    I don’t respect Frost, but he does bring up a good point.

    The immigration question should not be boiled down to homicides or even violence. There are perfectly good reasons Americans should not want more immigrants besides this one issue.

    1) There are more young men immigrating than women. This effects society in profound ways that should not be discounted.

    2) While we should not accept any immigrants from any society, I am especially wary of bringing in more Latinos. Not because of violence, but because of their proclivity for socialism. Failed Latin societies failed because they were socialist and there was no incentive to be productive. Why do we think they will not think the same way when they come to America?

    3) Our elites are bringing in immigrants for a purpose. They are purposely bringing them in to divide and conquer. Why should we help our elites?

    4) Our socialist society brings out the worst in immigrants. In the past it was sink or swim. America could handle immigrants because to fail literally meant death. So we attracted and molded productive people. Our current society encourages bad habits in our immigrants. So they will not be encouraged to be productive citizens.

    5) We are entering into an age of automation where high IQ people will get by fine, but what will we do with moderate to low IQ people already in America? Why should we want more migrants whom technology is making irrevelent?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  428. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Just saw this:

    ICE Appears To End Use Of Federal Prisons For Immigrant Detainees

    October 20, 2018

    In early June, the agency announced it was sending up to 1,600 immigrant detainees to five federal prisons in Texas, Oregon, California, Washington, and Arizona.

    But now, a total of only three ICE detainees remain across the five prisons that once held hundreds of immigrants. Immigrant detainees left the federal prisons either because they were deported, transferred to civil detention facilities, or were granted bail.
    [...]
    “ICE was blending the criminal, penal corrections system, blending it with the immigration, asylum system and sort of creating this unified view that they all need to be detained and incarcerated,” says Stephen Manning, a Portland-based immigration attorney. He represents the three remaining ICE detainees at the federal prison in Oregon.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/10/20/658988420/ice-appears-to-end-use-of-federal-prisons-for-immigrant-detainees

    From 1996 to 1998, the number of immigrants in detention increased from 8,500 to 16,000[3] and by 2008 this number increased to more than 30,000.[4][5] According to the Global Detention Project, the United States possesses the largest immigration detention system in the world.[6]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_the_United_States

    [MORE]

  429. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    It was rude but the other option was to impute he was stupid and this would be even worse for him. He prides himself for his intellect more than his ethics.

    But as far his methodology I know what I am talking about. If I had access to the data I would do it correctly. Getting the data was several orders of magnitude harder that doing calculations that he did.

    Well, I’d tend to disagree.

    All the data was publicly available on government websites. The FBI website had the crime data and the Census website had the demographics. I got someone to download and put it into a spreadsheet for me, which only took him a few hours. Then I spent a day or two putting together all the different cases and correlations in my calculation spreadsheet, and looking around for all the interesting things I found, plus producing the graphs.

    To the best of my knowledge, no one in the academic world had ever done these simple calculations before.

    I’m sure the data is still up on those various government websites, so you can certainly go ahead and analyze the data yourself if you’d like, using the much more complex methodology you prefer.

    The nice thing about using simple correlations is that most people (vaguely) know what they are and can understand what they mean. That’s not the case with your extremely complex curve-fitting procedure.

    Anyway, I doubt very much you’ll find anything interesting. The problem, which I described upthread, is that the black correlation is so enormously large, it would tend to mask anything you could sift out with regard to the Hispanic or white correlations.

    But I seem to recall you spent an *enormous* amount of time on the 9/11 comment-thread arguing about the supposed blast-ratio of the stolen Russian nuclear missile that you thought may have been used to destroy the World Trade Center, or something like that. So it’s clear that you’re someone with plenty of time on your hands…

    • Replies: @utu
  430. @Ron Unz

    Middle-aged CPA’s walking down the street are more likely to be targeted because the perpetrator tends to assume he has some money on him and an expensive watch and perhaps a nice car parked where he is walking.

    If you see a scuzzy looking white coming out of a tattoo parlor in the bad part of town, the perpetrator assumes that he might be armed with a blade and has no money.

    The Outlaws and other MC always had their clubhouses in the Detroit ghetto. Their bikes were never stolen and they were never robbed. Why?

    Because they are physically dangerous. So their clubhouses go unmolested.

  431. @Anonymous

    1. There are more young men than women immigrating. This has always been the case in Latin America and the reason for the existence of the Mestizo to begin with-concubinage, orphans, a ruling elite who imported women from Spain, a few prostitutes deported.

    2. Latinos are seem less able to integrate than any other group-Muslims, Asians, Slavs. Proximity makes integration irrelevant since they believe that Arizona is in Mexico anyhow. A Muslim has crossed an ocean and knows he is in a foreign country.

    3. Events in France reflect what happens to Jews when this happens.

    4. The US is not that socialist compared to Canada or Sweden.

    5. Underground economies, of course. Drug dealing. Prostitution (Until sex robots replace this market). Theft. Gambling. Fencing. Extortion.

  432. Sessions has lived his entire life in a state containing just a sliver of immigrants or Hispanics, strongly suggesting that his entire knowledge of that complex subject comes from secondary sources

    Normally I’m with you, Mr. Unz, but come on: “Dr. Sims, the well-known gynecologist, lived his entire life as a man, strongly suggesting that his entire knowledge of that complex subject came from secondary sources.”

  433. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Thanks Rurik, I thought I was correct on it. I have been aware of ADL+IDF+Israeli Training of usa cops etc for a long time now. But others may not be so its always good for us to repeat it now and then.

    I agree 100% all you said on TV and Hollywood constant bashing of White males, and always promoting Negroes and Mexicans as Heros, Leaders, Boss’ over White man. With an real Euro White actor to paly the role of a total idiotic Buffoon and Lunatic. Yet most all other “white male” actors get played by some Hollywood JewBoy. Jewboy”whitey” gets the Blonde Buxom Babe whos also usually played by a real Euro White Woman. Of course, since Our White babes rise above most non white females. Too bad so many whitey females today are so daffy brainwashed and dumbed down.

    I cannot count the number of Detroit area White women I have met or known when I still lived there, who hooked up with a Darkieboy….Only to later hugely regret it..That’s those who remained alive after relationships with a savage…Many tell horror stories that will blow your mind as to the terrible treatment they got from those savage ape boy friends…And once they go black or brown, NO real white guy wants anything at all to do with them women any more.

    I can just picture when I was younger, and Mom still alive, how she’d react if I ever showed up at her home with some white bitch and her two Beige or Tan chillins in tow!!!!….My Mom would not even remain polite when advising me to scram and get them half breeds Out of her home asap fast.

    I cannot blame her either….Of course she had zero to worry of as I’d never consider to hook up with such goofy white females. Once they go Black they cannot come back!

    Anyways, Thanks again for replying and answering me Rurik, it is swell to have guys like you posting here, as you are a wealth of good info…Them Guys

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  434. @Curmudgeon

    Moreover, why has the same genetic substrate that produces the bulk of California immigrants generated some of the highest violent crime rates in the world? El Salvador tops the list, with a warlike murder rate of 82/100,000. By contrast, the murder rate for the entire state of Michigan, which includes grizzly kill zones like Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Battle Creek and Benton Harbor, is just 5.7/100,000. Anywhere south of the 43rd parallel in Michigan, I can drive 30 minutes and have the average person in a neighborhood that they would not let me drop them off in for $100 cash. Bad neighborhoods in Michigan are real bad. They’re also real common.

    What does that say about the really bad areas of a country with only a slightly smaller population and a murder rate 15 times as large? Good schools? Nice parks?

    I don’t think the case needs to be rehashed at length here as to exactly how violent much of Mexico and Central America is. But five of the 10 most murderous cities in the world are located in Mexico.

    Perhaps Mr. Unz would have us believe that these are unfortunate accidents of geography. But the far more convincing story is that these islands of horror adrift in a sea of indolent banality are the end result of a genome left to its fate.

    The Tijuanification experiment has been run before, ad nauseum, as the piles of rotting bodies will attest. That labor there might be cheap and drugs good doesn’t change the fact that most whites would find those environs intolerable. The burden of proof, then, would seem to be on the person claiming that Tijuanification won’t, at last, lead to its usual spectrum of dire states.

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  435. Them Guys says:
    @Sparkon

    [If you want your comments published, you should make a serious effort to improve your capitalization, punctuation, and grammar, while providing substantive information that's generally on topic.]

    Ok but as far as when we used odd vs even Lic Plates to be allowed to buy gas and only a 10 gal limit each time…I had a One year Old, 1977 Dodge Pick Up truck then..Sooo, maybe it wasn’t the arab opec embargo that caused it that time I spoke of…But I am correct it was not 1973 Israel war caused it.

    Nobody could buy a brand new 1977 dodge pick up prior to 1977. And it was then my Only vehicle, so I know it was about 1978 we did that odd vs even lic plate thing to buy gas every Other day only.

  436. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Negrolphin Pool

    El Salvador tops the list, with a warlike murder rate of 82/100,000. By contrast, the murder rate for the entire state of Michigan, which includes grizzly kill zones like Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Battle Creek and Benton Harbor, is just 5.7/100,000.

    You can thank Planned Parenthood and the death penalty for the relatively low murder rate in the U.S. and blame the Catholic Church and their anti-abortion and anti-birth control rhetoric and policies for the violence in Mexico and Central America:

    [MORE]

    Source: http://www.unz.com/jpetras/how-billionaires-become-billionaires/#comment-2034028

    El Salvador Last execution in 1973 May be imposed only in cases provided by military laws during a state of international war.[140] Abolished for other crimes 1983.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country#Americas_2 and http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2056086

    Abortion in El Salvador is illegal. The law formerly permitted an abortion to be performed under some limited circumstances, but, in 1998, all exceptions were removed when a new abortion law went into effect.[1]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_El_Salvador

    The Effects of ‘Youth Bulge’ on Civil Conflicts

    Between 1970 and 1999, 80 percent of civil conflicts occurred in countries where 60 percent of the population or more were under the age of thirty, according to the PAI report.
    http://archive.is/rSug7

    El Salvador Population pyramid 2016

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_El_Salvador

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  437. @Them Guys

    There is also the criminal association. I knew one college girl who was in an interracial relationship who was living with a black whose house was raided and they found a kilo of cocaine and a pound of pot.

    This was 1996 and she would have just gotten out of jail. She was not dealing, but was aware that he was. But not to what extent. That’s it…she was in jail for 20 years. All for some college fling.

    I also knew a college girl who got into coke and was pulled over in a stolen vehicle with some Hispanics. She went to jail.

  438. @Art

    Mexico is a country – not a race.

    Have you mentioned that to the Mexicans?

    They call restricting immigration from Mexico “racist.”

    WHAAAT? You haven’t mentioned that to the Mexicans??

    We’re truly SHOCKED!
    :-)

  439. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    The Ohio family was not murdered by a cartel:

    Nearly three years after ‘execution-style’ killing of family, four charged with murder, police say

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2018/11/13/four-arrested-execution-style-shootings-eight-family-members/

  440. Gold quote for mine:

    However, although Trump had reached the presidency by advocating a radical populist-nationalist agenda, he has hardly governed in those ter