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Racial issues have now returned to the center of American politics, and a recent article of mine provoked a great deal of discussion, much of it seemingly ignorant of my extensive previous writings on the subject.

Therefore, I’m taking this opportunity to republish this major 2011 article, which covers the issues in much greater detail. Although nine years is an eternity in national politics, I’d still stand behind virtually every point I made, and readers can decide for themselves whether or not my analysis has been borne out by subsequent developments.

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TAC-WhiteAmerica Last June the U.S. Census disclosed that non-white births in America were on the verge of surpassing the white total and might do so as early as the end of this year. Such an event marks an unprecedented racial watershed in American history. Over the last few years, various demographic projections from that same agency and independent analysts have provided somewhat fluctuating estimates of the date—perhaps 2042 or 2037 or 2050—at which white Americans will become a minority. This represents a remarkable, almost unimaginable, demographic change from our country of the early 1960s, when whites accounted for over 85 percent of the population and seemed likely to remain at that level indefinitely.

Many years of heavy foreign immigration have been the crucial element driving this transformation, but even if all immigration—legal and illegal—were halted tomorrow and the border completely sealed, these demographic trends would continue, although at a much slower pace. Today, the median age of American whites is over 40, putting most of them past their prime child-bearing years. Meanwhile, America’s largest minority group, the rapidly growing population of Hispanics, has a median age in the mid-20s, near the peak of family formation and growth, while both Asians and blacks are also considerably younger than whites. In fact, since 1995 births rather than immigration have been the largest factor behind the near doubling of America’s Hispanic population.

As in most matters, public perceptions of America’s racial reality are overwhelmingly shaped by the images absorbed from the national media and Hollywood, whether these are realistic or not. For example, over the last generation the massive surge in black visibility in sports, movies, and TV has led to the widespread perception of a similarly huge growth in the black fraction of the population, which, according to Gallup, most people now reckon stands at 33 percent or so of the national total. Yet this is entirely incorrect. During the last hundred-plus years, American blacks have seen their share of the population fluctuate by merely a percentage point or two, going from 11.6 percent in 1900 to 12.6 percent in 2010. By contrast, five decades of immigration have caused Asian Americans—relatively ignored by the news, sports, and entertainment industries—to increase from 0.5 percent in 1960 to 5 percent today, following the fifteen-fold rise in their numbers which has established them as America’s most rapidly growing racial group, albeit from a small initial base.

These national changes in racial distribution have been quite uneven and geographically skewed, with some parts of the country leading and others lagging. For example, during the 1970s when I was a teenager growing up in the Los Angeles area, that city and the surrounding sprawl of Southern California constituted America’s whitest region, about the only large urban agglomeration whose racial character approximated that of the country as a whole—around 85 percent white—and my own San Fernando Valley area in particular exemplified the popular image of suburban picket fences and lighthearted “Leave It to Beaver” family comedies. Yet during the two decades that followed, Southern California underwent an enormous immigration-driven demographic transformation, creating a new Los Angeles which was almost 80 percent non-white and a surrounding region in which whites no longer held even a mere plurality.

This sweeping racial shift, involving the movement or displacement of over ten million people, might easily rank as the largest in the peacetime history of the world and is probably matched by just a handful of the greatest population changes brought about by war. The racial transformation in America’s national population may be without precedent in human history.

Republicans as the White Party

It is a commonplace that politics in America is heavily influenced by race, and these enormous demographic changes since 1965 have certainly not gone unnoticed within the political world. For decades, white voters have tended to lean Republican while non-whites have been strongly Democratic, so the swiftly falling ratio of the former to the latter has become a source of major concern, even alarm, within the top ranks of the GOP, which received a sharp wake-up call when gigantic California, traditionally one of the most reliably Republican states, suddenly became one of the most reliably Democratic.

During the mid-1990s there was a powerful strain of thought within conservative and Republican circles that the best means of coping with this looming political problem was to reduce or even halt the foreign immigration that was driving it. But after several years of bitter internal conflict, this anti-immigrationist faction lost out almost completely to the pro-immigrationist camp, which was backed by the powerful business lobby. As a result, the Republican Party mantra became one of embracing “diversity” rather than resisting it and focused on increasing the Republican share of the growing non-white vote. Former President George W. Bush, strategist Karl Rove, and Sen. John McCain have been the most prominent advocates of this perspective.

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Rove invested huge resources in maximizing Bush’s Hispanic numbers in 1998 during his easy Texas gubernatorial reelection campaign and achieved considerable success, persuading some 40 percent or more of local Hispanics to vote the Republican ticket that year, a major shift of political loyalties. This later allowed him to tout his candidate’s excellent Hispanic rapport in national GOP circles, which was an important factor in gaining him the presidential nomination in 2000. Although Bush’s national Hispanic totals were much less impressive in the 2000 race, and the vast funds he invested in a quixotic attempt to carry California were totally wasted, Rove and his allies redoubled their efforts during the 2004 reelection campaign, and buoyed by the continuing patriotic aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, largely succeeded. Although the percentages have been much disputed, Bush seems to have carried somewhat over 40 percent of the Hispanic vote nationwide in 2004, although he was once again trounced in California.

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Part of the Bush/Rove political strategy was to take a leading role in passing a sweeping immigration-reform measure, aimed at legalizing the status of many millions of (overwhelmingly Hispanic) illegal immigrants, easing the restrictions on future legal immigration, while also tightening border enforcement. Leaving aside policy matters, the political theory was simple: if the Republican Party changed the laws to benefit Hispanic and other immigrants, these groups and their children would be more likely to vote Republican, thereby helping to solve the GOP’s demographic dilemma. Rove endlessly pointed to 40 percent as the necessary GOP level of future Hispanic support—score above that number and political victory was likely, score much below it and defeat was nearly assured. Although this precise quantitative target was obviously intended for rhetorical effect, it does seem to represent the dominant strain in conservative thinking, namely the need to combine a strong white vote with a solid minority of Hispanics and Asians, thereby allowing the Republicans to survive and win races in an increasingly non-white America. (Meanwhile decades of fruitless efforts to attract a significant share of the black vote would be quietly abandoned.)

But does this political strategy actually make any sense? Or are there far more effective and more plausible paths to continued Republican political success? Although almost totally marginalized within Republican establishment ranks, the anti-immigrationist wing of the conservative movement has maintained a vigorous intellectual presence on the Internet. Over the years, its flagship organ, the VDare.com website run by Peter Brimelow, a former National Review senior editor, has been scathing in its attacks on the so-called Rove Strategy, instead proposing a contrasting approach christened the Sailer Strategy, after Steve Sailer, its primary architect and leading promoter (who has himself frequently written for The American Conservative). In essence, what Sailer proposes is the polar opposite of Rove’s approach, which he often ridicules as being based on a mixture of (probably dishonest) wishful thinking and sheer innumeracy.

Consider, for example, Rove’s oft-repeated mantra that a Republican presidential candidate needs to win something approaching 40 percent of the national Hispanic vote or have no chance of reaching the White House. During the last several election cycles, Hispanic voters represented between 5 and 8 percent of the national total, so the difference between a candidate winning an outstanding 50 percent of that vote and one winning a miserable 30 percent would amount to little more than just a single percentage point of the popular total, completely insignificant based on recent history. Furthermore, presidential races are determined by the electoral college map rather than popular-vote totals, and the overwhelming majority of Hispanics are concentrated either in solidly blue states such as California, New York, Illinois, and New Jersey, or solidly red ones such as Texas and Georgia, reducing their impact to almost nothing. Any Republican fearful of a loss in Texas or Democrat worried about carrying California would be facing a national defeat of epic proportions, in which Hispanic preferences would constitute a trivial component. Pursuing the Hispanic vote for its own sake seems a clear absurdity.

Even more importantly, Sailer argues that once we throw overboard the restrictive blinkers of modern “political correctness” on racial matters, certain aspects of the real world become obvious. For nearly the last half-century, the political core of the Republican Party has been the white vote, and especially the votes of whites who live in the most heavily non-white states, notably the arc of the old Confederacy. The political realignment of Southern whites foreshadowed by the support that Barry Goldwater attracted in 1964 based on his opposition to the Civil Rights Act and that constituted George Wallace’s white-backlash campaign of 1968 eventually became a central pillar of the dominant Reagan majority in the 1980s.

In many cases, this was even true outside the Deep South, as the blue-collar whites of Macomb County and other areas surrounding overwhelmingly black cities such as Detroit became the blue-collar Reagan Democrats who gave the GOP a near lock on the presidency. While the politics of racial polarization might be demonized in liberal intellectual circles, it served to elect vast numbers of Republicans to high and low office alike. George H.W. Bush’s “Willie Horton” ad and Jesse Helms’s “White Hands” ad have been endlessly vilified by the media, but they contributed to unexpected come-from-behind victories for the candidates willing to run them. And in politics, winning is the only metric of success.

Sailer suggests that a very similar approach would work equally well with regard to the hot-button issue of immigration and the rapidly growing Hispanic population, arguing that the votes of this group could be swamped by those of an angry white electorate energized along racial lines. He cites Pete Wilson’s unexpected California gubernatorial reelection victory in 1994 as a perfect example. Deeply unpopular due to a severe statewide recession and desperately behind in the polls, Wilson hitched his candidacy to a harsh media campaign vilifying illegal immigrants, and although his Hispanic support plummeted, his white support soared to an equal extent, giving him a landslide victory in a race the pundits had written off and sweeping in a full slate of victorious down-ticket Republicans. Sailer’s simple point is that individual white votes count just as much as Hispanic ones, and since there are vastly more of the former, attracting these with racially-charged campaign themes might prove very politically productive.

An additional fact noted by Sailer is that the racial demographics of a given region can be completely misleading from a political perspective. As mentioned earlier, Hispanics and other immigrants tend to be much younger than whites and much less likely to hold citizenship. Therefore, a state or region in which whites have become a numerical minority may still possess a large white supermajority among the electorate. Once again, today’s California provides a telling example, with Hispanics and whites now being about equal in numbers according to the Census, but with whites still regularly casting three times as many votes on Election Day.

The Sailer analysis is ruthlessly logical. Whites are still the overwhelming majority of voters, and will remain so for many decades to come, so raising your share of the white vote by just a couple of points has much more political impact than huge shifts in the non-white vote. As whites become a smaller and smaller portion of the local population in more and more regions, they will naturally become ripe for political polarization based on appeals to their interests as whites. And if Republicans focus their campaigning on racially charged issues such as immigration and affirmative action, they will promote this polarization, gradually transforming the two national political parties into crude proxies for direct racial interests, effectively becoming the “white party” and the “non-white party.” Since white voters are still close to 80 percent of the national electorate, the “white party”—the Republicans—will end up controlling almost all political power and could enact whatever policies they desired, on both racial and non-racial issues.

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Many might find this political scenario quite distasteful or unnerving, but that does not necessarily render it implausible. In fact, over the last couple of decades, this exact process has unfolded in many states across the Deep South, with elected white Democrats becoming an increasingly endangered species. Each election year, blacks overwhelmingly vote for the “black party,” whites overwhelmingly vote for the “white party,” and since whites are usually two-thirds or so of the electorate, they almost invariably win at the polls. Although Republican consultants and pundits make enormous efforts to camouflage or ignore this underlying racial reality, it exists nonetheless.

By contrast, appeals for white support based on racial cohesion would be almost total nonstarters in 95 percent white Vermont or New Hampshire, or in many other states of the North in which the local demographics still approximate those of the country that overwhelmingly supported the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960s. But today’s national white percentages are much closer to those of 1960s Alabama and Mississippi, where whites fought that legislation tooth and nail on racial grounds. And as the nation’s overall demography continues its inexorable slide from that of Vermont to that of Mississippi, will white politics move in that same direction, especially if given a push?

Now I think a strong case can be made that such a process of deliberate racial polarization in American politics might have numerous adverse consequences for the future well-being of our country, sharply divided as it would become between hostile white and non-white political blocs of roughly equal size. But given the extremely utilitarian mentality of those who practice electoral politics for a living, the more important question we should explore is whether it would actually work, purely on the political level. Might this strategy of racial polarization be applicable across the country as a whole?

Non-Whites and Blacks

Consider an interesting datapoint. It is certainly true that the over the last century those states with the smallest white majorities have generally had names like Mississippi, South Carolina, and Alabama, and these have exhibited a very distinctive brand of white politics and race relations. But the least white state of all has actually projected a very different cultural image.

Whites were a minority in Hawaii at the time of statehood and have always been so, with the relative numbers of whites and Asians shifting somewhat based upon the various flows of migrants. Furthermore, the original white colonists and plantation elites historically had had a quite conflicted relationship both with the Native Hawaiian population whose leadership they supplanted and also with the large numbers of Japanese, Chinese, and other Asian workers originally imported as impoverished plantation laborers.

Yet although the local Republican Party has generally skewed toward the 25 percent of the population that is white, while the Democrats have been more popular among the majority Asians, the state’s reputation has overwhelmingly been one of easygoing race relations, a high degree of intermarriage, and a complete lack of vicious political conflict. Ideologically, Hawaii’s white minority seems to think and vote much more like the racially liberal residents of 95 percent white Vermont than as members of a racially polarized minority bloc, locked in endless political struggle with its non-white opponents.

Perhaps Hawaii is just a unique case, being a chain of small tropical islands located thousands of miles off the mainland and heavily dependent upon tourism for its economy. But there is an additional example. After Hawaii, the state with the next lowest white percentage throughout most of the 20th century was New Mexico, with the number of whites fluctuating at around half the total depending upon the ebbs and flows of the white and Hispanic populations, before eventually falling to 40 percent in 2010.

And although New Mexico hardly possesses Hawaii’s enormously positive social image—it is mostly rural with a small economy—it has also never developed the reputation of being a boiling racial cauldron, with whites and Hispanics locked in a bitter battle for power. Mention “New Mexico” and the popular images that spring to mind probably revolve around UFOs, vistas of great natural beauty, and government research laboratories, not longstanding racial conflict.

These examples lead to the suspicion that the history of bitter racial politics across most of the Deep South may represent less a conflict of white vs. non-white than one of white vs. black, and this seems quite plausible. After all, slavery and its legacy have for centuries constituted the deepest wound in American society, provoking a bloody Civil War which cost the lives of almost one third of all white Southern men of military age. The history of black/white racial relations is arguably the single most significant element in American political history, so we should hardly be surprised if it continues to heavily influence the politics of numerous states and cities, including those outside the South.

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By contrast, although relations between whites and various other groups—Asians, Hispanics, and American Indians—have sometimes been hostile or even violent, these conflicts have never been nearly as long nor intense and are more like the often contentious relationships between various white ethnic groups. As our schoolbooks endlessly emphasize, black/white relations do indeed constitute a unique aspect of American history.

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These alternate hypotheses about the underlying sources of white political behavior may be explored empirically by examining the electoral data across the 50 states. Like it or not, today’s Republican Party does indeed constitute the “white party,” drawing almost all of its national votes from whites, while the Democratic Party serves as the “mixed party,” with roughly comparable support from whites and non-whites. Therefore, white support for Republicans, particularly at the national level, may serve as a reasonable proxy for a state’s apparent degree of “white racial consciousness,” whether implicit or explicit.

Under the “Sailer Hypothesis,” white alignment with the Republicans should be heavily influenced by the white share of the population, with the residents of lily-white states exhibiting little racial consciousness, while those living in states in which whites have slender or non-existent majorities would tilt much more heavily Republican. A second possibility to consider might be called the “Hispanic Hypothesis,” in which the heavy influx of Hispanic immigrants, both legal and illegal, pushes whites toward the harder-line Republicans; since the vast majority of today’s Hispanics come from a relatively recent immigrant background, a state’s overall Hispanic population can be used as a good approximation for this independent variable. Finally, there is the “Black Hypothesis,” in which the long history of black/white racial conflict is assumed to be the primary factor, and the percentage of blacks in the local population is what generally influences white political behavior.

For the sake of simplicity and to minimize the confounding impact of local political issues and personalities, the easiest output variable to examine would be the percentage of the white vote that supported the Republican presidential ticket over the last 20 years. On a population-weighted basis, the correlation results for elections from 1992 through 2008 across the 50 states are as shown in the chart below.

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The results seem conclusive. The correlations between the Hispanic percentage of each state and white voter preferences are approximately zero for all presidential elections, implying that the presence of large Hispanic populations appears to have virtually no impact upon white political alignment, either one way or the other.

By contrast, the evidence for apparent black/white racial conflict being the driving force that prompts whites to vote Republican seems very strong: the correlations between the size of the black population and the degree of white GOP support range from 0.43 to 0.70, with a mean of 0.55, being both quite substantial and very consistent over time.

The data regarding the “Sailer Hypothesis” is bit more interesting, with the correlations between a state’s overall non-white percentage and white Republican alignment being small but noticeable, ranging between 0.14 and 0.31, with a mean of 0.20. However, we must remember that a considerable fraction of America’s non-whites are blacks, with the ratio declining from around half in 1992 to about one-third by 2008, and obviously the strong black correlations impact the non-white result. In fact, the Sailer Hypothesis curve closely tracks the weighted average of the Hispanic and Black Hypothesis curves, the difference being mostly due to America’s small but growing Asian population. Thus, any “Sailer Effect” in white voting patterns appears almost entirely due to the black portion of the non-white population and is therefore merely a statistical artifact.

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In many respects, this conclusion merely constitutes a quantitative confirmation of the conventional political wisdom, which stretches back for many decades. For example, in the aftermath of the successful Reagan Revolution of the 1980s, prominent journalists Thomas and Mary Edsall published the widely praised Chain Reaction, which emphasized the underlying racial factors prompting America’s political realignment, and several similar books appeared around the same time, notably Peter Brown’s Minority Party. Numerous other authors had earlier made the same general point about the politics of the “white backlash” vote in the 1960s and 1970s, the era of urban unrest and forced busing.

In recent years, the Republican Party has grown quite embarrassed over these roots of its modern political rise and has therefore made considerable efforts to downplay such underlying racial factors relative to more innocuous issues such as support for low taxes or small government or patriotism or even traditional religious values, and this sustained effort to rewrite history partly accounts for much current amnesia. But the data speaks for itself.

There is another, more subtle reason why so many of America’s political elites and pundits tend to miss the clear signs of this obvious racial relationship, and it becomes apparent when we examine the scatterplot distribution of these election results for the most recent 2008 presidential vote, including the 50 states and also the District of Columbia. (Scatterplots for the previous presidential elections look very similar.) The results for the individual states mostly follow the sort of distribution we would expect for a strongly correlated result, but there is one huge exception: white voting patterns in D.C. constitute an enormously strong outlier. By a wide margin D.C. is simultaneously more heavily black than any state while also having whites who are the most liberal and Democratic in their voting behavior.

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D.C.’s population is much smaller than that of nearly all states, so including it in our weighted correlation calculation would have only slightly shifted the results. But in the real world of today’s centralized political culture, the world of politicians and media pundits and political journalists, D.C. ranks as a colossus in mind share, playing a huge role in shaping ideological perceptions and therefore carrying a weight probably greater than that of California or Texas, or perhaps even both combined. And under such a mind-share weighting, that single city filled with a population consisting almost entirely of blacks and very liberal whites serves to substantially mask elite perceptions of the stark racial dynamics that influence political ideologies almost everywhere else in the country.

An Anti-Immigration Backlash

Let us consider the political implications of these striking results. Since the large-scale presence of non-black non-whites—primarily Hispanic and Asian immigrant groups—does not seem to produce much white political cohesion along racial lines, the continued growth of these populations can hardly represent a potential boon for the Republican Party. Meanwhile, harsh Republican rhetoric or policies that target these groups would naturally tend to drive them into the arms of the Democrats. Under such a scenario, the GOP loses millions of non-white votes without gaining any white votes in exchange, resulting in political disaster.

A perfect example of this danger may be found in the recent political history of California, whose huge size and heavily immigrant population render it a useful testbed for the nation as a whole. During the four decades from 1950 to 1990, California supported the Republican presidential ticket almost without fail, going Democratic only during Lyndon Johnson’s unprecedented 1964 landslide. The state was considered as solidly Republican as Wyoming or Idaho, and the huge number of electoral votes it carried combined with the enormous expense of contesting them established it as the anchor of the GOP presidential strategy, leading to the widespread notion of a Republican “lock” on the White House.

Although Hispanic and Asian numbers had been growing steadily for years, their support for Republicans had been growing as well, and by the early 1990s, a GOP candidate could regularly expect to receive around one-third or more of the Hispanic vote and half that of the Asian. For example, Pete Wilson’s narrow 1990 gubernatorial victory over Dianne Feinstein, which significantly relied upon his criticism of “racial quotas,” was achieved with 53 percent of the white vote, 47 percent of the Hispanic vote, and 58 percent of the Asian vote according to the prestigious California Field Poll used by the New York Times, though others placed his ethnic totals lower.

But all of this permanently changed following Wilson’s harsh 1994 reelection campaign, whose television ads relentlessly scapegoated Hispanic immigrants for the state’s terrible economic woes. Although his words were carefully chosen in lawyerly fashion to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, his message was perceived very differently, and his loudest grassroots activist supporters certainly made no such distinction. Moreover, the resounding California Republican landslide that resulted soon emboldened the newly established Republican majorities in the U.S. House and Senate to focus on passing anti-immigration legislation, which thus placed legal Asian immigrants in the same political crosshairs.

As a direct consequence, Republican support sharply dropped among Hispanics and Asians and has never really recovered. Moreover, the immigration battle frightened and energized many traditionally apolitical Hispanics into finally naturalizing and registering, and during the 15 years that followed, their share of the state vote more than doubled to 22 percent, severely compounding the blow to Republican prospects.

The consequence was that gigantic California—almost as populous as Texas and New York combined—suddenly switched from being the strong anchor of every Republican national campaign to being the equally strong anchor of every Democratic one. In the years that followed, the large GOP congressional delegation was decimated and the powerful state Republican Party, which had once propelled Nixon and Reagan to national leadership, was reduced to near irrelevance.

Consider the interesting case of Howard Ahmanson, long one of California’s wealthiest politically-active Evangelical Christians and during the early 1990s routinely described by the media as a central pillar of the Christian Right within the Republican Party. In a prescient 1993 letter to Commentary, he warned of the rising tide of anti-immigrant sentiment in conservative circles and expressed a concern that Republicans would “doom themselves” if they drove away these socially conservative voters, perhaps losing them for generations, just as previous Republicans had done with Italian and Irish immigrants a century earlier. The California Republicans completely ignored his warning, with the political consequences already noted.

In Ahmanson’s opinion, today’s California GOP has shrunk to the point where it now represents only the most dogmatically taxophobic elements of the state. Meanwhile, the Democrats have expanded so much that they usually incorporate both sides of almost every political divide: business and labor, whites and non-whites, the rich and the poor, liberals and conservatives. This inclusiveness certainly extends to the staunchest socially conservative voters, since it was the overwhelming support of California non-whites that defeated gay marriage at the ballot box in 2008. And these days Howard Ahmanson is a registered Democrat.

There is no logical contradiction between the powerful backlash of California whites against immigrants 20 years ago and the apparent lack of such political sentiments today. In the early 1990s, the state’s demographics had just undergone a period of very rapid change, and middle-class whites were naturally fearful and alarmed about the consequences of these changes and the possible behavior of so many millions of new immigrants from such different backgrounds, especially in the immediate aftermath of the deadly Rodney King riots. This left them easy targets for political demagoguery. But after a few years had gone by, most whites concluded that their new neighbors seemed like pretty reasonable people, not too different from themselves, and racial concerns dropped to the lower levels of most public opinion surveys, usually ranking below jobs, housing, healthcare, and sometimes even traffic.

Similarly, most Hispanic and Asian newcomers have developed perfectly amicable relations with their white counterparts, but still remain deeply suspicious of the Republican Party, whose leaders had spent several years defaming and attacking them. Such ethnic suspicions might occasionally be overcome by a particularly unusual Republican candidate, as we saw in the case of worldwide film superstar Arnold Schwarzenegger—himself a heavily-accented foreign immigrant—who managed to win a couple of landslide victories. But they proved enormous barriers to more typical Republican candidates, who began each statewide campaign with what amounted to an automatic ten or 15-point deficit at the polls and almost invariably lost as a result.

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This can be seen in the details of the most recent California election cycle. As the only statewide Republican officeholder and a wealthy Silicon Valley entrepreneur, Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner was assumed to have a lock on his party’s gubernatorial nomination and naturally attracted the support of all major segments of the GOP apparatus. But then former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, an utter political neophyte but with a billion-dollar fortune, decided to enter the race and immediately became the darling of the party’s mercenary establishment, given the bottomless funds she promised to spend on her campaign. Outmatched financially, Poizner was forced to refocus on right-wing primary voters, and as a highly opportunistic fellow, he decided to ride the national tidal wave of anti-immigration fears then sweeping across the country and make it the centerpiece of his campaign, eventually spending $25 million of his own money on the effort.

The result was that he lost the primary by 40 points. When you run as an immigration hard-liner, spend $25 million on your race, and lose by 40 points among the hard-core conservatives who dominate Republican primaries, you’re clearly selling the dog food that dogs just won’t eat. These days, anti-immigration candidacies in California possess about as much resonance as anti-papist candidacies in Massachusetts.

Afterwards, Whitman went on to spend an astonishing $180 million in her campaign, nearly all of it her own money, and in a year featuring an enormous national backlash against career politicians lost in a landslide to former Governor Jerry Brown, who had almost continuously been an elected official or a political candidate for the previous 45 years. Meanwhile, the best nationwide year for Republicans in two decades saw their California party lose every statewide race, mostly by wide margins. Such is the dismal political legacy that Pete Wilson bequeathed to his most unfortunate local successors.

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Now consider the likely political future of a state such as Arizona, ground zero of the most recent national anti-immigrant backlash by nervous whites. A severe recession and rapidly changing demographics had alarmed Arizona voters, many of them elderly retirees from elsewhere, leaving them vulnerable to wild rumors of a huge immigrant crime wave, including beheadings and kidnappings, almost all of which was complete nonsense. As a result, harsh anti-immigrant measures were passed into law, and their mostly Republican supporters won sweeping victories among an electorate that is today roughly 80 percent white.

But buried near the bottom of a single one of the innumerable New York Times articles analyzing Arizona politics was the seemingly minor and irrelevant fact that almost half of all Arizona schoolchildren are now Hispanic. Meanwhile, according to Census data, over 80 percent of Arizonans aged 65 or older are white. A decade or more from now it seems likely that Arizona whites and Hispanics will enjoy perfectly good relations, and the former will have long since forgotten their current “immigrant scare.” But the latter will still remember it, and the once mighty Arizona Republican Party will be set on the road to oblivion.

Even in a rock-solid Deep South Republican state like Georgia, Hispanics have now grown into a remarkable 10 percent of the population, up from almost nothing in the early 1990s, and represent an even larger share of younger Georgians. So unless the local Republican Party can somehow greatly enhance its appeal to the 30 percent of Georgians who are black, the current wave of anti-immigrant legislation may prove highly problematical ten or 20 years down the road.

This pattern highlights a central dilemma faced by today’s Republican leadership. In states or regions experiencing heavy waves of non-white immigration, the party’s white conservative base tends to grow alarmed, and any particular spark—an economic downturn, a brutal crime widely publicized by the media—can lead to an explosion of racial hostility. At that point, thoughtful Republican candidates are faced with the choice of either following this populist appeal to immediate victory, often attracting the crossover support of large numbers of Democratic or independent voters in the process, or gritting their teeth and opposing it.

If they take the former approach, temporary electoral victories, no matter how sweeping, almost invariably become long-term disasters in political alignment. But if they take the latter stance, they sacrifice the sort of immediate opportunities that tend to figure very high in the minds of most politicians, and even risk losing primaries to harder-line rivals with shorter horizons or fewer scruples.

Since the Democratic Party is already so heavily influenced at the national level by non-white voters and pro-immigrant activists, local Democrats possess little leeway on this sort of issue, and any candidates who might consider adopting a populist anti-immigrant platform would quickly find themselves blacklisted by the party leadership, quite possibly becoming Republicans at the end of a bitter ideological divorce.

But when we consider the case of California and the numerous other states that now appear to be following along that same demographic trajectory, certainly including the Republican anchor state of Texas in which whites recently became a minority, today’s high levels of immigration seem to be forcing the Republicans into a very difficult strategic position, not necessarily over the next five or six years, but over the next ten or 20. Is there any way they can somehow escape this racial trap, perhaps by curtailing immigration? Moreover, can such a proposal be justified on anything other than political grounds?

Our Population Ponzi Scheme

This obviously leads into the endlessly contentious topic of immigration, and whether or not today’s high levels provide benefits that outweigh their problems. There are few subjects so likely to provoke angry emotions in political circles, as well as sweeping ideological justifications, personal vilifications, and factual claims that have no basis in reality. Furthermore, this is one issue in which individuals quite frequently feel compelled to take one position publicly while very clearly holding the opposite belief in private; and such dishonesty seems to occur in both directions of the debate.

Many of the leading factors driving populist opposition to immigration, such as perceptions of high crime rates or anti-white ethnic hostility, seem completely incorrect. As I demonstrated in a 2010 article, all available evidence indicates that most immigrant groups tend to have approximately the same crime rates as white Americans of a similar age, or perhaps even a bit lower. Similarly, there is overwhelming evidence that today’s immigrants want to learn English, gain productive employment, assimilate into our society, and generally become “good Americans” at least as much as did their European counterparts of a century ago.

The notion that masses of non-white immigrants, legal or not, will turn our cities into violent battlefields or support ethnic separatist movements which shatter national unity are total absurdities, and the people who believe such claims are fools. And as we have seen above from the accumulated voting data of the last couple of decades, after a brief transition period, whites and non-white immigrant groups seem to coexist perfectly well, or at least as well as did the various white ethnic groups on the East Coast 50 or 60 years ago.

However, the fact does remain that America’s current immigration levels are extremely high, not merely relative to the 40-year pause between 1925 and 1965, but even relative to the previous peak reached during the early years of the 20th century. Over the last decade, the flow of immigrants has often hit a million or more per year, a rate that would have seemed almost unimaginable during the immigration controversy of the early 1990s, when Peter Brimelow warned of America becoming an “Alien Nation” in his alarmist book of that title. The number of foreign-born Americans has doubled in the last 20 years, while almost a quarter of all American children today have at least one foreign-born parent, nearly matching the level reached during the absolute height of European immigration a century ago.

The result of all this has been a quite remarkable rate of national population growth. During the early 1970s, when environmental concerns, such as depletion of resources and overpopulation, became leading causes among the liberal intelligentsia, America’s population was a little over 200 million, and growth was rapidly diminishing, with birth rates falling to replacement levels following the end of the postwar Baby Boom. But soon after those activists declared victory and moved on to new and varied ideological causes, population growth—driven almost entirely by immigrants and their children—suddenly started up again, with numbers reaching unprecedented levels: 250 million in 1990, 275 million in 2000, and well over 300 million today. A couple of years ago, urban-development expert Joel Kotkin published The Next Hundred Million, a book in which he trumpeted the likely fact that the American population would reach 400 million within about 30 years. Does an eventual billion inhabitants of the 50 states now seem utterly impossible?

Such rapid and massive population growth is found nowhere else in the developed world and is rare even among the more successful developing countries. The European nations, Japan, and China are all approximately stable in their populations, and in most cases are projected to undergo some decline in the near future. Even crowded Mexico, long the leading source of anti-immigrationist dystopian nightmares, saw total fertility rates drop to replacement levels a few years ago, as increasing levels of affluence and education permeated the population.

Large and growing populations certainly do produce national benefits as well as burdens, and America’s wide-open interior spaces still provide a much lower overall population density than small and crowded European countries. But if our national population trends are so wildly discordant with those of almost all our international peers, perhaps we should at least question them.

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There are obvious reasons for this curious lack of national debate. The solvency of our Social Security system is buttressed by such rapid population growth, which increases the number of current workers relative to retirees. The housing sector—which during the peak of the bubble became America’s largest industry—is heavily dependent upon population growth to boost demand. But support for immigration based on these arguments amounts to an endorsement of Ponzi schemes in which growth must continue indefinitely in order to maintain the same benefits. And as we have seen in the recent past, Ponzi schemes eventually collapse, usually leaving devastation in their wake.

Meanwhile, consider the strange continued silence of the once vocal environmentalist groups, for whom massive housing growth and endless suburban sprawl are hardly cherished dreams. I strongly suspect that the difference between their energetic criticism a generation or so ago and their quiescence today centers on the matter of race: back then, America’s population growth was driven almost entirely by the white birthrate, while today non-white immigration and the children of such immigrants are the overwhelming source. And these days in American society, very few individuals—least of all the sort of affluent liberals who focus on the environment—care to risk being branded with a “Scarlet R”.

As a prime example of this dynamic, consider the case of the Sierra Club, one of America’s oldest and largest environmental groups, which quite naturally had always made population growth one of its major concerns. During the mid-1990s, a wealthy California environmentalist, David Gelbaum, himself the grandson of Jewish immigrants from Europe and with a Mexican-American wife, grew outraged over the nasty racial tone of the political battle unleashed by Pete Wilson and Proposition 187 and privately pledged $100 million to the Sierra Club on the condition that it never turn anti-immigration. This requirement was accepted, permanently silencing that organization.

Even without such explicit inducements, we should hardly be surprised that liberal, cosmopolitan, upper middle class environmentalists would be extremely uncomfortable enlisting in a political cause typically spearheaded by the sort of loud right-wing populists whom they personally detest as “racist rabble.” Sometimes strange bedfellows do find it extremely difficult to share the same bed.

Meanwhile, many other powerful lobbies within our political system derive important real or perceived benefits from endless population growth. The massive inflow of often impoverished and desperate immigrants tends to weaken unions and drive down working-class wages, thereby increasing corporate profits, a slice of which is then rebated back to the campaign accounts of the elected officials who maintain such policies. Some of the more expansively-minded neoconservatives feel that if America must establish a hegemonic world empire, it necessarily requires a vast population to do so, especially given their expectation of an inevitable conflict with China. Particular proposals from some of these individuals carry strong echoes of the decaying Late Roman Empire, with Max Boot, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, having suggested that we should offer automatic American citizenship to any foreigner willing to enlist in the U.S. military.

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But if we take a step back and ask ourselves to consider the current outcome of all these interlocked policies, we discover a very sorry situation. The massive immigration of the last couple of decades is certainly not the sole or even the leading cause, but it is an important contributing factor. Endless foreign wars, partly made possible by the availability of pliant immigrant cannon fodder, have ruined America’s worldwide reputation and its finances. A gigantic housing bubble, inflated by heavy immigration-driven population growth, has collapsed, wrecking the American economy and endangering our financial system. And the extremes of American wealth and poverty have reached levels never previously seen in our society.

This last point is perhaps the most significant, but also the least often articulated, given that both political parties are largely funded by the same financial interests.

The Politics of Rich and Poor

In recent decades, American society has undergone an almost unprecedented concentration of wealth, now reaching the point at which the top 1 percent possess as much net wealth as the bottom 90-95 percent. This same top 1 percent received over 80 percent of the total increase in American personal income between 1980 and 2005, and that trend has almost certainly accelerated since then. Late last year New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof sounded the alarm that America might soon reach the extremes of wealth and poverty found in the notoriously polarized societies of Argentina and the “banana republics” of Latin America, then needed to retract that claim when he discovered that we had already long since passed most of those countries in that regard. And in a widely discussed Vanity Fair article, Economics Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz characterized today’s America as being a country “Of the One Percent, By the One Percent, and For the One Percent.” This state of affairs is clearly not beneficial to the less wealthy 99 percent of our society, but he also pointed out that the obvious potential for social instability should deeply concern the more thoughtful members of the One Percent themselves.

Furthermore, much of this economic decline has been absolute rather than merely relative. Adjusted for inflation, median personal income has been stagnant for the past 40 years, and a substantial fraction of the population has seen a sharp drop in its standard of living, a situation almost without precedent in American history. Meanwhile, the costs of numerous budget items such as healthcare or higher education have risen very rapidly, thereby forcing more and more families into what Paul Krugman has characterized as a system of permanent “debt peonage” or what Warren Buffett has similarly described as a “sharecropper’s society.” As a result, nearly a quarter of American households have zero to negative net worth, and a single unexpected illness or economic setback can push them to the brink of destitution.

To some extent, this long stagnation in financial well-being has been masked by the material benefits derived from the exponentially growing power of our electronic technologies and also by the false sense of wealth temporarily provided by the housing bubble. But with the collapse of the latter, many Americans are finally discovering just how poor they really have become. And in many respects, this economic situation seems far worse in America than in most of the other wealthy countries we have long regarded as our economic peers, so it cannot simply be blamed upon problems of technological displacement or the rise of China or global free trade.

It is perhaps not entirely coincidental that this 40 year period of economic stagnation for most Americans coincides exactly with 40 years of rapidly rising immigration levels. After all, the concept that a huge influx of eager workers would tend to benefit Capital at the expense of Labor is hardly astonishing, nor does it require years of academic research into the intricacies of economic theory.

Consider, for example, the case of self-educated union activist Cesar Chavez, a liberal icon of the 1960s who today ranks as the top Latino figure in America’s progressive pantheon. During nearly his entire career, Chavez stood as a vigorous opponent of immigration, especially of the undocumented variety, repeatedly denouncing the failure of the government to enforce its immigration laws due to the pervasive influence of the business lobby and even occasionally organizing vigilante patrols at the Mexican border. Indeed, the Minutemen border activists of a few years back were merely following in Chavez’s footsteps and would have had every historical right to have named their organization the “Cesar Chavez Brigade.” I think a good case can be made that during his own era Chavez ranked as America’s foremost anti-immigration activist.

But today’s union leaders have grown almost completely silent on the obvious impact that large increases in the supply of labor have on the economic well-being of ordinary workers. A crucial explanation is that for reasons of citizenship and language, the overwhelming majority of immigrants are employed in the private sector, particularly the small-scale non-unionized private sector. Meanwhile, population growth tends to increase the need for teachers, police officers, firefighters, and other government employees, thereby benefiting the powerful public-sector unions that today completely dominate the labor movement.

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This relates to another perfectly valid criticism raised by anti-immigration activists, namely that the net fiscal impact of many immigrants is substantially negative. The notion that large numbers of immigrants and their families subsist on welfare or that Mexican immigrant mothers often have five or ten children is sheer nonsense. Immigrants actually have very high labor force participation rates and relatively low rates of welfare dependency, while the vast majority of their families stop at two or three children, a number somewhat higher than that of today’s native-born whites but really no different from the typical American family during the hallowed 1950s. And since, as mentioned earlier, immigrant crime rates are about average, there is no large additional cost for police or prisons.

The fiscal difficulty lies not on the expenditure side but on the tax side. Most immigrants, especially illegal ones, work at relatively low paid jobs, and the various taxes they pay simply cannot cover their share of the (extremely inflated) costs of America’s governmental structure, notably schooling. Furthermore, for exactly this same reason of relative poverty, they receive a disproportionate share of those government programs aimed at benefiting the working poor, ranging from tax credits to food stamps to rental subsidies. Immigration critics have persuasively argued that the current system amounts to the classic case of economic special interests managing to privatize profits while socializing costs, wherein immigrant employers receive the full benefits of the labor done by their low-wage workforce while pushing many of the costs—including explicit income subsidies—onto the taxpayers. Obviously, all these same factors are equally true for non-immigrant Americans who fall into the category of working-poor, but the large continuing inflow of low-wage workers greatly exacerbates this basic fiscal problem.

Immigration and the Political Trap

But even if we conclude that our high immigration levels represent a serious national problem, is there any possible solution? The political reality is that both major parties are enormously dependent upon the business interests that greatly benefit from the current system and are also dominated by disparate ideologies—libertarian open-borders and multicultural open-borders—whose positions tend to coincide on this issue.

As an extreme example of the bizarre ideological views of our current political elites, consider a less-publicized element of the immigration reform plan that President George W. Bush trumpeted during his 2004 reelection campaign. This provision would have allowed any foreigner anywhere in the world to legally immigrate to America if he accepted a minimum-wage job that no American were willing to fill, an utterly insane proposal which would have effectively transformed America’s minimum wage into its maximum wage. Naturally his opponent, Sen. John Kerry, saw absolutely nothing wrong with this idea, though he did criticize various other aspects of Bush’s immigration plan as being somewhat mean-spirited.

Furthermore, while significant Democratic support for curtailing immigration appears almost unthinkable given the party’s internal dynamics, a committed Republican effort—unlikely though it might be—would seem doomed to failure due to the racial aspects of the issue. Republicans would immediately be subjected to withering Democratic attacks in the media—whether or not these were fair or sincere—and as a result would lose much of whatever remaining non-white political support they still retained, while the GOP plan would never have the slightest chance of gaining majority support in Congress, let alone a filibuster-proof majority. The Republicans would suffer massive political damage without any possibility of achieving legislative success, and knowing that, would never undertake the effort. So they don’t.

After all, even strictly enforcing existing immigration laws is almost impossible in our current political and media climate. Although the press has recently highlighted the hundreds of thousands of undocumented residents annually deported under the Obama administration—and this has sparked a sharp political backlash among his pro-immigrant supporters—such a number is negligible compared to the estimated total of 11 million or so. Only the most utterly egregious employers of those workers have ever paid serious penalties, and the dollars involved are usually trivial compared to the economic benefits of ignoring the law. In almost all cases, “employer sanctions” have amounted to just a (small) cost of doing business. When both worker and employer have a strong mutual interest in evading a law, enforcement becomes very difficult and cumbersome, just as we have seen in the case of our endlessly violated drug laws.

Even so, attacking the employment side of the equation remains the most effective approach. Virtually all immigrants come here for jobs, so eliminating government benefits would merely serve to further immiserate millions of families, who would remain in this country regardless. Having immigration agents conduct random sweeps through ethnic neighborhoods would engender enormous fear and anger and also deter immigrants from reporting crimes, while constituting a massive violation of traditional civil liberties. Even building a fence and doubling the border-patrol would probably have just a small impact across such an enormously long border, not least because an estimated one-half of all illegal immigrants enter the country legally and then overstay their visas. If the magnetic appeal of the American job market could somehow be reduced or eliminated, such ancillary measures might prove useful, but if the jobs remain, the immigrants will remain here as well.

Escaping the Low-Wage Society

So we are faced with several apparently insoluble and reinforcing dilemmas. Passing legislation to curtail immigration seems a political non-starter with both parties, and enforcing such legislation even if passed is equally unlikely. Yet as an almost inevitable consequence of the current system, the bulk of the American population—including the vast majority of immigrants and their children—falls deeper and deeper into economic misery, while government finances steadily deteriorate, leading our country to a looming calamity whose outcome appears both dire and quite difficult to predict. Over the last century, the political consequences of a largely impoverished middle class and a bankrupt government—whether in Latin America or in Central Europe—have often been very unfortunate.

By contrast, the sharp constriction in the labor supply resulting from steep reductions in additional immigration would dramatically boost worker wages, especially at the low end, with current immigrants themselves being among the greatest beneficiaries. An increase of a couple of dollars per hour or more could make huge improvements in the difficult existence of the working poor, perhaps allowing them to exit the debt treadmill and stand a better chance of eventually rising into a revitalized middle class. Admittedly, corporate profits might suffer a little and some businesses at the lowest end might disappear; but corporate profits are already doing quite nicely these days, and it makes no sense for developed countries to desperately compete with the impoverished Third World for jobs that are only viable under Third World salaries. Immigration restrictions that raised working-class wages by a couple of dollars an hour would also do wonders for the fiscal health of the Social Security system and government finances in general.

But perhaps the obvious escape from this seemingly inescapable political trap is as simple as merely reversing the direction of cause and effect. Consider the consequences of a very substantial rise in the national minimum wage, perhaps to $10 or more likely $12 per hour.

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The automatic rejoinder to proposals for hiking the minimum wage is that “jobs will be lost.” But in today’s America a huge fraction of jobs at or near the minimum wage are held by immigrants, often illegal ones. Eliminating those jobs is a central goal of the plan, a feature not a bug.

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Let us explore the likely implications of this simple proposal. The analysis that follows should be regarded as impressionistic and plausible rather than based on any sort of rigorous and detailed research. It is intended to raise possibilities rather than provide answers. Also, let us assume for the moment that these higher wage requirements would be very strictly enforced.

First, the vast majority of workers in America’s surviving manufacturing sector—whether in unionized Seattle or non-union South Carolina—already earn far more than the existing minimum wage, so their employers would hardly be affected, resulting in almost no impact on our international competitiveness. The same would be true for government employees, resulting in negligible cost to the taxpayer.

By contrast, the bulk of the low-wage jobs affected fall into the category of domestic non-tradeable service-sector jobs, which cannot be replaced by overseas workers. Many of these jobs would disappear, but a substantial fraction would remain viable at the higher wage level, with employers either raising prices or trimming profits or more likely a mixture of both. Perhaps consumers would pay 3 percent more for Wal-Mart goods or an extra dime for a McDonald’s hamburger, but most of these jobs would still exist and the price changes would be small compared to ongoing fluctuations due to commodity prices, international exchange rates, or Chinese production costs.

Meanwhile, many millions of low-wage workers would see an immediate 20 percent or 30 percent boost in their take-home pay, producing a large increase in general economic activity, not to mention personal well-being. We must bear in mind that an increase in the hourly minimum wage from the current federal level of $7.25 to (say) $12.00 would also have secondary, smaller ripple effects, boosting wages already above that level as well, perhaps even reaching workers earning as much as $15 per hour.

The likely impact upon immigrant workers, whether legal or illegal, would be quite varied. Those most recently arrived, especially illegal ones with weak language or job skills, would probably lose their jobs, especially since many of these individuals are already forced to work (illegally) for sub-minimum wages. However, workers who have been here for some years and acquired reasonably good language and job skills and who had demonstrated their reliability over time would probably be kept on, even if their employer needed to boost their pay by a dollar or two an hour.

Thus, the force of the policy would fall overwhelmingly on those immigrants who possessed the weakest ties to American society and still retained the strongest links to their country of origin. By contrast, those immigrants—legal or otherwise—who had lived here for some years and therefore had gradually become part of the community would mostly emerge unscathed, probably receiving a very welcome boost to their family income. Some anti-immigration activists might find this prospect extremely distasteful, but half- or two-thirds of a loaf is better than none.

Moreover, although this wage structure would tend to “grandfather” a considerable fraction of existing illegal immigrants, it would constitute a very formidable barrier to future ones. Paying $12 per hour might be reasonable for a reliable employee who had worked with you for several years, but would be much harder to justify for an impoverished new arrival speaking minimal English and with no track record. To a large extent, the undocumented job window in America would have permanently slammed shut.

In effect, a much higher minimum wage serves to remove the lowest rungs in the employment ladder, thus preventing newly arrived immigrants from gaining their initial foothold in the economy. As a natural consequence, these rungs would also disappear for the bottom-most American workers, such as youths seeking their first jobs or the least skilled in our society. But over the last few decades, these groups have already been largely displaced in the private-sector job market by immigrants, especially illegal ones. Whereas 40 years ago, teenagers and blacks tended to mow lawns and work as janitors, in most parts of the country these days, such jobs are now held by recent arrivals from south of the border. So the net loss of opportunity to Americans would not be large.

Furthermore, recently arrived illegal workers must very quickly find employment if they hope to cover their living expenses and remain here rather than being forced to return home instead. But first-time American job-seekers are already living with their families and anyway have no other home to draw them away, and consequently could spend months seeking an available job. Thus, a higher minimum wage would tend to disproportionately impact new immigrants rather than their American-born competitors.

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The enforcement of these wage provisions would be quite easy compared with the complex web of current government requirements and restrictions. It is possible for business owners to claim they were “fooled” by obviously fraudulent legal documents or that they somehow neglected to run the confusing electronic background checks on their new temporary dishwasher. But it is very difficult for anyone to claim he “forgot” to pay his workers the legally mandated minimum wage. Furthermore, the former situation constitutes something of a “victimless crime” and usually arouses considerable sympathy among immigrant-rights advocates and within ethnic communities; but the latter would universally be seen as the case of a greedy boss who refused to pay his workers the money they were legally due and would attract no sympathy from the media, the police, juries, or anyone else.

Very stiff penalties, including mandatory prison terms, could assure near absolute compliance. Virtually no employer would be foolish enough to attempt to save a few hundred dollars a month in wages paid at the risk of a five-year prison sentence, especially since the workers he was cheating would immediately acquire enormous bargaining leverage over him by threatening to report his behavior to the police.

The proposed change would simply be in the rate of the minimum wage, rather than in the structure of the law, so certain relatively small modification and exceptions, such as including estimated tips for some restaurant employees, might be maintained, so long as these did not expand as a means of circumventing the statute.

Depending upon the state, the current American minimum wage ranges between $7.25 and $8.67 per hour. But is a much higher national minimum wage such as $12 per hour really unreasonable by historical or international standards? In 2011 dollars, the American hourly minimum wage was over $10 in 1968, during our peak of postwar prosperity and full employment, and perhaps that relationship was partly causal. Although exchange-rate fluctuations render exact comparisons difficult, the minimum wage in Ontario along our northern border is currently well over $10 per hour, while in France it now stands at nearly $13. Even more remarkably, Australia recently raised its minimum wage to over $16 per hour, and nonetheless has an unemployment rate of just 5 percent. With the collapse of America’s unsustainable housing-bubble economy of the 2000s, our unemployment rates seem no better and in many cases considerably worse than those of affluent Western countries that have refused to pursue our race-to-the-bottom low-wage economic strategy of recent decades.

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But suppose this boost in the minimum wage succeeded at one of its primary goals and eliminated the jobs of many millions of America’s large undocumented population. Would these current workers and their families remain here anyway, perhaps turning to crime as they became financially desperate? After all, huge numbers of immigrants were employed in housing construction, and following the collapse of that industry their unemployment rates have soared, but most of them have stayed here anyway rather than going home again.

The central point to recognize is that most illegal immigrants, and a substantial fraction of legal ones, enter America with the original goal of short-term economic gain, intending to work for a few years, save as much money as possible, then go back home to their family and friends with a nice nest-egg. Frequently, these plans are unrealistic—saving money proves more difficult than expected—and local ties develop. But except for financial factors, even those individuals who have lived here a decade or longer often still dream of returning to their native countries, sometimes even after they have married, had American-born children, and put down considerable roots.

Among other factors, the cost-structure of American society is extremely high compared with that in most of the developing world, where dollars go much farther. This is the primary reason that substantial numbers of non-Hispanic American retirees have chosen to relocate to Mexico with their pensions, despite considerable barriers of language and culture.

Furthermore, as discussed earlier, the fiscal costs to the American government of low-wage immigrant families can be enormous. A couple working jobs at or near the present minimum wage pays negligible taxes, while if they have two school-age children, the grossly inflated expense structure of American public education may easily result in an annual taxpayer burden of $20,000 or more, even excluding the substantial costs associated with all other public services. And if one or both of these parents lose their jobs due to a soaring minimum wage, the fiscal burden grows still more severe.

The obvious solution, both humane and highly cost-effective, would be for the government to offer immigrants extremely generous financial relocation packages if they return home to their own countries. A tax-free cash payment perhaps as high as $5,000 or even $10,000 per adult plus a much smaller sum per minor child, together with free travel arrangements, would constitute an enormously attractive offer, probably being much more than they had managed to accumulate during many years of difficult low-wage labor. If the legal changes proposed herein had already caused their jobs to disappear, such a relocation offer would become irresistible. (Naturally, the full financial package would require hard evidence that they had already been living in America for a year or more, thereby preventing foreigners from crossing our borders simply to game the system.) Given the massive fiscal burdens inherent in the current situation, even such generous financial terms would probably pay for themselves almost immediately.

An important aspect of all these proposals is that they are largely self-enforcing. Workers would be perfectly aware of the simple minimum wage laws, and harsh penalties would deter employers from taking the risk of violating them. The disappearance of low-wage jobs would remove the primary lure for new illegal immigrants, and generous cash relocation packages would lead many existing ones to eagerly turn themselves in and seek deportation. Although the Border Patrol would continue to exist and immigration laws would remain on the books, after a short transition period these would become much less necessary, and a vast existing system of government bureaucracy, business red tape, and taxpayer expense could safely be reduced.

Even principled libertarians, fervently opposed to the very concept of a minimum wage, might find this system preferable to the status quo, which contains an enormously complex web of regulations and employment restrictions; the civil libertarian nightmares of identity cards, national databases, and workplace raids; and an existing minimum wage on top of all these other things.

The Political Balance Sheet

The political response to this package would obviously not be uniformly favorable, but would almost certainly be more so than for any typical immigration-restriction proposal.

Most of the larger corporations, especially those in the industrial sector, would be minimally affected by the wage changes, while benefiting from the (eventually) decreased burden of immigration-related reporting and paperwork requirements.

Many large retail establishments would be forced to pay higher wages, but since these requirements would be uniform, hitting all of them simultaneously, they would be able to raise prices in unison to cover much of the additional expense, a situation very different from one in which well-paid unionized companies are driven to the wall by their lower-paid non-unionized competitors. Furthermore, during the course of this severe recession, giant companies such as Wal-Mart have disclosed disturbing trends of declining sales, and this has widely been ascribed to the growing impoverishment of their lower-middle-class and working-poor customers. A dramatic rise in the wages of low-end groups would reverse this situation and probably boost the fortunes of Wal-Mart and its peers.

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Large agricultural interests are heavily reliant upon illegal labor, but while they might be unhappy about raising their workers’ pay by a significant amount, they would find this situation vastly preferable to actual enforcement of today’s immigration laws, which would immediately put them out of business. Anyway, although agricultural labor is difficult and unpleasant, most field workers already earn well above current minimum-wage levels, averaging just over $10 per hour in 2009, so the required increase would be much less than what one might assume. And unlike the situation decades ago, only a small fraction of today’s illegal immigrants are employed in agriculture.

Many small textile manufacturers and other businesses that survive only by relying upon very low-paid immigrant labor, working in near-sweatshop conditions, would probably be driven out of business. But that is the intent of the proposal.

The reality is that most of the larger, more powerful business interests in America are much less heavily impacted by minimum wage laws than by all sorts of other regulatory and legal issues, not to mention healthcare and pension costs. A simple change in minimum-wage rates would provoke only a small fraction of the organized business opposition generated by many of the other sweeping national proposals of recent decades, notably healthcare reform. Small business interests, influential in Republican circles, would certainly oppose the measure, but they would largely stand alone.

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A greater difficulty on the Republican side of the aisle would involve the entrenched ideological positions of many conservative elected officials and pundits, who over the years have come to vaguely regard minimum wage laws as being “bad,” both economically and even spiritually, having substituted dogma for thinking. As an example, conservative firebrand Rep. Michele Bachmann recently hinted that the solution to America’s current economic problems might involve substantially reducing our existing minimum-wage rates. Presumably, she believes our country would prosper by cutting its wages to Sub-Saharan African levels, then naturally importing millions of Sub-Saharan Africans happy to work at those rates.

But we should also recognize that these days a crucial component of the Republican electorate consists of working-class whites, often strongly religious ones, who tend to live in non-unionized low-wage states or who otherwise generally subsist, sometimes with considerable difficulty, on the lower rungs of the economic ladder. Proposing a large wage increase to a socially conservative evangelical Christian who works at Wal-Mart and currently struggles to pay her bills would be the sort of simple, clear message that might easily cut through an enormous amount of ideological clutter. And even if Rush Limbaugh, who earns tens of millions of dollars each year, denounced this proposal as “big-government liberalism,” for once his views might not find receptive ears. I suspect that a very substantial fraction of Michele Bachmann’s supporters fall into exactly this socioeconomic category.

The minimum wage represents one of those political issues whose vast appeal to ordinary voters is matched by little if any interest among establishment political elites. As an example, in 1996, following years of unsuccessful attempts to attract the support of California politicians, disgruntled union activists led by State Sen. Hilda Solis, now serving as President Obama’s secretary of labor, scraped together the funds to place a huge 35 percent minimum wage increase on the state ballot. Once Republican pollsters began testing the issue, they discovered voter support was so immensely broad and deep that the ballot initiative could not possibly be defeated, and they advised their business clients to avoid any attempt to do so, thus allowing the measure to pass in a landslide against almost no organized opposition. Afterward, the free-market naysayers who had predicted economic disaster were proven entirely wrong, and instead the state economy boomed.

Finally, we should remember that many of the most militant and ideologically fervent grassroots activists within conservative ranks are vehemently anti-immigration, often largely on racial grounds, and sometimes focus on that one issue to the exclusion of most others. For them, the very realistic prospect of dramatically cutting the numbers of America’s huge undocumented population, reducing future illegal immigration to a mere trickle, and even perhaps encouraging a substantial fraction of our legal immigrants to return home would be tremendously attractive, and they might make life very uncomfortable for any Republican politician who opposed this plan without providing a realistic alternative in its place.

The political calculus among Democrats would be much simpler. Any neoliberal Democratic officeholder who balked at a large rise in the minimum wage by citing the economic theories of Milton Friedman or the research reports of Goldman Sachs would be trampled into the dust by his enraged constituents, disappearing forever.

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A little over a century ago, Henry Ford took the bold step of doubling the regular wages of his assembly-line workers to the then remarkable sum of $5 per day, thereby achieving international fame as well as enormous business success for his own company. According to most accounts, this event was a crucial factor in creating the prosperous middle class that eventually dominated America’s 20th-century history, and Lenin later hailed Ford as one of the world’s greatest revolutionary heroes, urged his followers to closely study Ford’s writings, and argued that so long as America possessed leaders of such wisdom, no Communist revolution would be necessary there.

These days, times have changed. But perhaps a similarly bold step, which similarly raises the income of America’s working class and similarly crosses many ideological lines, would help safeguard and maintain the national prosperity that men like Ford originally created.

Ron Unz is publisher of The American Conservative . He thanks Razib Khan for his assistance in gathering the state demographic and election data and running the resulting correlations.

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  1. Rossbach says:

    Alhough this article makes some good points, I cannot agree with its defeatist tone. It is not the Democratic and Republican parties or their self-interested political calculus that will determine the demographic (or economic) future of this country, but the American people themselves. No matter what the Karl Roves of either party say, the bottom line is this: America is our country and Americans are overwhelmingly opposed to mass immigration, be it legal or illegal. Americans are quite aware that mass immigration is a recipe for national suicide and they are slowly beginning to make their political “leaders” aware of this, too.

  2. I loved Leave it to Beaver, However when Lucille Ball started the I Love Lucy show, she made them hire this Cuban dude Desi Arnaz, with his heavy Spanish accent. Dag Gammit! things just went down hill in America after that. I’ve had enough already. I am officially resigning from the White Race.

  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Just quietly slip a requirement for all businesses to use e-verify into some unrelated bill. Don’t make a big fuss about introducing a tough immigration bill. Of course this requires a Republican House and Senate and Presidency to pass.

    But overall, it’s over for white Americans. Everything it too little too late.

  4. Matt says:

    The defeatist tone is deliberate. Unz likes immigration and doesn’t want it to end.

    Either Unz or myself misunderstands the Sailer Strategy. My impression was that it was not about making the Republicans the white party so much as making the Democrats the black party. In this way, other ethnics–Whites being the prime target–could be peeled off once they realize that the Democrats’ commitment to black issues will always trump the commitment to their issues.

    Unz also whitewashes the situation in California. It is true that there is not mass violence in the streets, but this is largely due to 1) de-facto segregation and 2) the fact that white people aren’t generally rabid KKK members. Regardless of race or beliefs about immigration, most people aren’t going to run around burning crosses. It’s also not really surprising that immigration takes a back seat to more everyday concerns, especially in the face of media silence on the matter.

    Unz also says that a fence and border patrol wouldn’t have much effect, but 50% is a pretty large effect. Fences, contrary to immigrationist belief, do work, which is why people put them up on their land all the time.

    Finally, it is just untrue that hispanics have similar crime rates to whites. Just check your local most wanted list to explode this theory. Unz’s previous article was debunked by several sources.

    • Agree: Jean, Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Ragno
  5. M_Young says:

    How many times does it have to be stated — Pete Wilson won, handily.

    No other prominent state-wide Republican, not Lundgren, not Matt Fong, not even Whitman, has run on immigration issues. All have lost. In contrast, nominal Republican Ahnold did run against Gil Cedillo’s drivers licenses for illegals bill — of course among a large number of other issues at the time — and he won.

    If Unz wants to look at a culprit in GOP’s dismal showing, even among whites, he needs to look at people like his hero Ahmanson. White Californians are pro-choice, not crazy about the religious right, and pro-environment. The party is perceived, unfortunately, as a religious right and anti-environmental, in the pockets of developers, party.

    • Replies: @JC1
    , @Dutch Boy
  6. Matt says:

    One thing I don’t understand: if immigration is contributing to the end of White America, then it seems quite sensible to want to end immigration, for the same reason that going to the hospital to prevent my imminent death seems rather sensible. If Unz thinks immigration will bring about the end of White America, and supports it anyway, then he is supporting the end of White America. There’s no way around this, and he and other immigraionists should be made to answer for it. Why is White America bad and why should it end?

    • Agree: TheBoom, Joseph Doaks
  7. Knowone I know wants an end to white America, America would not be the same without a significant number of people of anglo/european heritage, however it is the sentiment of nativist America that needs to end.

  8. The author makes a strong case that the Republican penchant for casting itself as the party of “strong borders” and no mercy for illegal immigrants, even children, will lead to its irrelevance in the near, if not immediate, future. But the idea of paying immigrants to leave out of Congressional appropriations is objectionable on both Constitutional and fiscal grounds. If we want to encourage a mass re-migration of Spanish speakers south of the border, the answers seem obvious and nearly painless. Congress should rescind the free-trade regime instituted with China, India and Southeast Asia, and institute tariffs to diminish these imports, while at the same time dropping any remaining barriers to importation from Mexico. The flow of imports to the U.S.A. will remain unchanged, if not decrease, while the Mexican economy and employment opportunities will boom. Optimally, job prospects between the U.S. and Mexico will be as equal as between the U.S. and Canada and worries about immigration, legal or otherwise of Mexican nationals, will come to an end. If the nations of our hemisphere succeed in creating a prosperous peace of mutual respect and acceptance, it may become necessary to protect both Anglo and Hispanic America from unwanted immigration from the war benighted lands of the Eastern Hemisphere. But policing a border defined by two vast oceans and the polar icecaps should be far more practical than a thousand miles of desert and the Rio Grande.

  9. mpresley says:

    Blacks as a group instinctively understand that the end of white America means the end of blackness at is has existed since Reconstruction. Unlike most whites, Hispanics and, to a lesser extent, Asians (lesser because there are less of them) have no instilled guilt toward blacks, and are in fact quite hostile towards them. The coming majority Hispanic nation will be similar to Mexico, and at that point I almost feel sorry for blacks who, as a group, have heretofore been able to count on the race card for spoils. I cannot imagine what they will do once the Hispanics take over.

    As far as the Republicans go, I seriously doubt they will embrace whites as a group, but will more and more pander to whatever Hispanic vote they think they can get. However it is useless, since Republicans will never be able to out pander Democrats . Therefore, my prediction is that the Republican party will become extinct. But one never can tell, and I am happy to be surprised differently.

  10. Scott says:

    I find Unz’s cool indifference to the concept of white America pretty refreshing in the end. I think there was an Anglo/Protestant America, with a distinctive hegemomic culture, but it’s long gone. White (or not white) America really doesn’t mean much relative to the other big “what kind of America” questions –its class structure, its environment, it’s foreign policy, its economy.
    The Times today noted the Likudist influence on the GOP. That seems far more ominous, and real, than worries about whether educated Asians and Hispanics will dilute the power of the “white party.”

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Anonymous
  11. ” And as we have seen above from the accumulated voting data of the last couple of decades, after a brief transition period, whites and non-white immigrant groups seem to coexist perfectly well, or at least as well as did the various white ethnic groups on the East Coast 50 or 60 years ago”

    There is a reason for this which Mr. Unz did not mention and it is called “white flight”. Those whites who remain in California got along with their new neighbors and those who did not wish to try and get along simply packed up and moved to Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Idaho and Utah and made those states even more Republican than they already were. Indeed, no stats were provided of net-outmigration of whites from California and where they went to but it is reasonable to figure such demographic trends made the GOP’s collapse in California more inevitable than it might have been whereas the latter has not been true in Texas which is also now a non-majority state yet still has a dominant Republican Party. Expect more such migration from areas which pass from majority to non-majority in years to come with the already heavily Republican plains states to benefit.

    The real power behind the Ron Paul campaign is the creation of a Republican Party which can transcend such racial identity by focusing on a single idea of “freedom”, which as Dr. Paul says, “brings us together” Now maybe it’s naive to think this way, but at least it is an alternative than having one’s politics resemble those of South Africa. The question is whether the party’s voters can successfully look into the future and see the better alternative for one’s heirs or selfishly take the quick and easy path of today for quick wins rather than long-lasting power. In fact it’s true on a lot of issues, not just immigration.

    • Replies: @Tucker
  12. Ken Hoop says:

    Instead of merely lamenting the lack of practicality in utilizing either major party to address the situation, it is obvious that one who truly cares about sustaining, one might now say,redeveloping an organic Euro-American dominant nation, will look for third party solutions.

  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Matt wrote:

    “Regardless of race or beliefs about immigration, most people aren’t going to run around burning crosses.”

    Back during the ’20s, quite a few of them were.

    Here’s my rejoinder to this kind of argument: the definition of “white” has proven to be considerably more elastic than is often suspected. Influxes of Mediterranean, Eastern European and Jewish immigrants in the early 20th century were met with considerable hostility. The KKK of the ’20s was at least as active against immigrants, Catholics and Jews as it was against blacks.

    And yet today, very few people today would deny that Italians or Poles or Ashkenazim are white. The definition expanded from the Anglo-Saxon and Celtic Protestant identities to include pretty much every European background.

    There’s no real reason to expect that precisely the same thing won’t happen with Hispanic and Asian immigrants today. There is strong reason to expect that intermarriage and assimilation will eventually lead to the differences between Hispanics, Asians and whites being seen as insignificant as the differences between Scots and Italians today.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
  14. I appreciate the amount of thought and research that Ron Unz puts into his writing. I voted for Mr. Unz in his attempt to get the republican nomination for governor. Unhappily, he lost.

    I think it would probably be a good idea to raise the minimum wage to $10 or $12 per hour and then index it for inflation to prevent the steady erosion of the standard of living of the poor, expecially the young. But I doubt if this would have the effect of causing large numbers of illegal aliens to leave the country. Large numbers of them (along with plenty of native blacks,hispanics and whites) are employed in the informal economy as lawn care people, baby sitters, nannies, small restaurant and beauty salon workers, small project construction workers, etc. They have no incentive to drop a dime to report their employers to state labor boards and, of course, their informal employers have no incentive to start keeping accurate books or (as one person suggested above) to use e-verify. Raising the minimum wage would benefit those in the formal economy.

    As far as the “death of white America” goes, I’ve never seen any advantage to me from living in a country where whites are the majority, nor disadvantage from living (as I do now) in a community where whites are a minority. I have found plenty of advantage, including life-long friendships, which have resulted from living in a country which permits immigration. I have no desire to live in a continent wide hermit kingdom.

  15. M_Young says:

    “There is strong reason to expect that intermarriage and assimilation will eventually lead to the differences between Hispanics, Asians and whites being seen as insignificant as the differences between Scots and Italians today.”

    That logic might work, given an end to immigration as happened in 1924 — an action that also took the wind out of the sails of the KKK.

    However I think not, as the genetic and cultural differences are far greater — there are blond haired, blue eyed Italians. Indeed the Italic languages are the closest in indo-european family to the Celtic. But there are few-to-no blond haired blue eyed Mestizos (now we are getting very Amerind Mexicans from south Mexico) or Asians.

    Frankly, I want my ancestors to look something like me, and given current immigration trends, they will look something closer to Benito Juarez.

    • Replies: @anon
  16. Italic languages? Romance languages in other words – like Spanish. Here in south Texas, there is plenty of intermarriage between latinos and non-latino whites, leading to blond and blue-eyed, even red-headed mestizos. Of course, the Amerindian component of the mestizaje is being constantly watered down.

    BTW, I think you mean you want your descendents to look like you. I’m hoping mine are a lot better looking than I am.

  17. Mr. Unz neglects other trends that supposedly made wages stagnant over the past 40 years, particularly the inflationary policies of the FED.

    And, if a larger number of available workers is so bad, we might as well blame ending the draft, which increased the numbers of young native-born men looking for work. (I imagine, however, that Mr. Unz believes ending the draft was a good thing, as do I.)

    And, his solution of raising the minimum wage will accomplish three things:

    1. Many more jobs will be lost than Mr. Unz imagines, as businesses will seek greater automation and “self-service” methods. (This is why you have to wipe your own windshield at the pump.) There’s nothing wrong with automation, but it should be adopted by market signals, not the increased compliance costs of the minimum wage.
    2. The minimum wage jobs that do remain will become more stressful and demanding, because employers will hold all the leverage over their employees.
    3. The underground, cash-only economy will grow, leading to an even greater decline in tax revenue.

    The best course is to reduce public “education” and cut social services, and make it EASIER, not harder, for individuals to start businesses or find jobs.

  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    FOR CERTAIN: The underground economy is no respecter of minimum wage laws.

  19. Greg says:

    The piece started out well, but devolved into a spectacle of fatal proportion when it got to immigration. I guess we can put both “American” and “conservative” in scare quotes now when describing this publication–as it often is neither.

    White Americans, (the only ones reading websites like AmCon), are starting to realize a post-white America looks much different than the rosy-colored Hollywood-created multiculti fabricated utopia they once believed in. Black/white tension was bad enough for much of the 20th century. But with the massive Mexican invasion in the SW, it is clear the 21st century will see race relations become more complicated and tense–all to the detriment of an aging white American populace.

    Whites have been told America is a “land of immigrants” and that “diversity is strength.” Of course, for the first 200 years 99+% of all immigrants were hard working, Christian and Jewish white Europeans. And even they didn’t all get along. While some non-white immigrant groups *are* beneficial economically and commit little crime; their customs, traditions and morals are alien to us in the Occident. The fact Chinatowns exist in many major US cities show how poorly many Asians have assimilated into American culture. This is not good for America.

    The problem, ultimately, is with the illegal Mexicans. Not only are their crime rates demonstrably higher, so too are the government services they take. This has been demonstrated in countless places, notably by the current Secretary of State of Kansas (and actual conservative) Kris Kobach. If Hispanic immigration rates continue, much of the US ceases being productive, industriousness, innovative, and moral. Conservatism loses out to a culture of corruption, handouts, and welfare-dependency. We’re seeing it already. Although a small percent could be absorbed if pressured to assimilate, they are forming too large of an influence in our country.

    It is amazing to see a defense of Republican pandering at the supposed independent American Conservative. When a Republican administration dares to attack hateful Islamic regimes, the publication goes off the deep-end with inane pejoratives to excoriate the “neo-cons,” yet is now concerned with Republican electoral hopes 10 years down the road? Some independence. Instead of worrying whether or not the GOP will exist later, the focus should be on *conserving* the republic. Is this not what being a *conservative* is all about?

    If, in 50 years the trends continue and the nation is completely transformed demographically, the Republican Party will still exist. We needn’t worry about the organization named the GOP. The Democratic Party was pro-slavery for the first part of its existence yet it is still around. Parties evolve to fit the changing wills of the electorate.

    However, I don’t care about the future of the Republican Party. I care about the future of the United States. As an American with ancestry back to pre-Revolutionary War days, I don’t see why I should have to pander to those who willingly break the laws of our republic, fly the Mexican flag, and sincerly hate us “gringos.” The country can be taken back by strict immigration enforcement that will not only reverse demographic trends, but allow for the absorption of assimilated Hispanics who feel no allegiance to Mexico. This includes a restricted legal immigration that seeks only English-speaking Canadians, Australians, and Europeans.

  20. Matt says:

    Geoff G, the upper estimate on Klan membership in the 20s was 6 million out of a population of 110 million or so. Assuming 10 million blacks and 10% foreigner, that gives us about 7% participation. Even if every one of them were burning crosses, that’s nowhere near a majority or even a significant plurality.

    As for Hispanic expectations, we don’t need handwaving analogies about the Irish and Poles; we have actual data on Hispanics and their descendants. It’s not good. It doesn’t remotely resemble the situation with Jews or Italians. I can’t say what will happen in the future, but just ask yourself one question: has the frequency of hearing and reading Spanish in your daily life increased or decreased over the past 10 years? The question practically answers itself.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  21. eep says:

    I agree with much of what he says. Illegal aliens are here and many are here to stay. It would be better to deal with them as people with common interest than enemies, especially since they aren’t going anywhere. I think he makes a good case for why wages should be increased. If businesses want people to buy goods then they need to pay them better. The Henry Ford quote reminds me that we need jobs other than retail, government, and fast food. I think intellectual property rights should be reconsidered. Americans could improve upon the mass produced products made in China and elsewhere.

    Mr. Unz loses me on the concept of paying them to go home. The whole world would come if it could for free money. I wouldn’t be surprised if people tried to game such a system. I don’t think portions of the US can support a huge population. I think increasing the minimum wage to try and curve the incentive for illegal immigration is worth a try. Poor people need to be able to survive and I don’t think the system is going to change for the better with the current ruling class.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  22. David says:

    I think you get it exactly backwards, Mr. Unz. California did not go blue because Republicans became too anti-immigrant. California went blue because too many illegal immigrants (and/or children of illegal immigrants) became voters. This is an all-or-nothing existential crisis for the Republican Party, and really, the American Republic as a whole: either illegal immigration is eliminated, and the majority of illegal immigrants deported (or voluntarily repatriate themselves), or the Republican Party as we know it will cease to exist, and with it, the American ideals of liberty and freedom.

    I don’t know what’s so hard for so many Republicans and conservatives to understand: poor people who are not white vote for Democrats. There are a few small pockets of exception to that rule scattered around the country (mostly having to do with isolated foreign policy questions like Cuba and Vietnam), but by and large we’re talking about 90+% of the poor and nonwhite vote. The Democrat strategy is clear: create as many voters as possible who fit that profile, no matter the cost to everything else. It’s not an irrational strategy even as it erodes the earning power of their core constituencies because if they succeed, then they win all of the marbles. If every illegal immigrant in America because a citizen tomorrow, Democrats would win national elections going away for decades to come, guaranteed, no matter how badly they ruined everything else.

    But even given that, it’s not the future of the Republican Party that worries me, but the country. This country is founded on the ideal of the rule of law, not of men. Whereas in most other countries, one’s successes or failures in life are intricately connected with the doings of those in power, especially a strong central government, typically corrupt, arbitrary and capricious, in our country, successes and failures are attributed to one’s own hard work, integrity, honesty, with the government limited, but fair to all parties. When you introduce tens of millions of new citizens into the mix whose very entry into the country violated the rule of law, and whose grant of citizenship was so clearly the result of a politically corrupted, arbitrary and capricious process, what do you think that will do to our national ethos and culture?

    Stop playing these stupid political games with this issue. We are either going to have America as it was founded, a democratic republic, or we are going to be just another American banana republic, with a population divided between a small group of well-connected very rich people, and legions of poor people, with the two groups having in common only their total dependence on government largess for everything that they have in life.

  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    More pro-immigration propaganda from the pro-immigration fanatic Ron Unz.

    In his last piece on Hispanic crime, Jason Richwine found that Unz miscalculated the data. Can’t wait to see the errors on this one.

    Unz is clearly blindsided by his ideological fanaticism about immigration. He is so pro-immigration that he cannot even see the forest through the trees.

    America historically has been a European nation, and many do not want it to become another failed mestizo nation, another Mexico. Regardless if Mexifornia votes Republican, it will still be a failed Mexifornia.

  24. M_Young says:

    ” Here in south Texas, there is plenty of intermarriage between latinos and non-latino whites, leading to blond and blue-eyed, even red-headed mestizos. Of course, the Amerindian component of the mestizaje is being constantly watered down.

    BTW, I think you mean you want your descendents to look like you. I’m hoping mine are a lot better looking than I am.

    Yes, I meant descendants, and do hope they look better than, but similar to, me. But here in California I fail to see how the Amerindian component is being watered down. We are getting a lot of people from Southern Mexico who look to be near 100% indian — and many speak no Spanish. In fact, I think the data show that it is increasing in Mexico itself, as the richer, whiter Mexicans have fewer children.

  25. M_Young says:

    “I’ve never seen any advantage to me from living in a country where whites are the majority, nor disadvantage from living (as I do now) in a community where whites are a minority”

    Kurt Higdon

    Funny, but Mexicans do — which is why they come to the US in droves.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  26. NotYou says:

    Well on the bright side, when whites become a minority they will not be singled out anymore as being the majority oppressing the minority.

    • Replies: @jack ryan
  27. Pointsman says:

    “that single city [DC] filled with a population consisting almost entirely of blacks and very liberal whites serves to substantially mask elite perceptions of the stark racial dynamics that influence political ideologies almost everywhere else in the country.”

    This is an excellent point, and one that applies to other issues.

  28. Pete says:

    Looking fwd to canceling my TAC subscription!

  29. Severn says:

    >”harsh Republican rhetoric or policies that target these groups would naturally tend to drive them into the arms of the Democrats.”

    You toss this off in a single casual sentence, but it is the lynchpin of your entire argument. Is there any evidence at all to support it? No, there is not. The Hispanic-American vote does not ebb and flow based on “harsh rhetoric or policies” with respect to immigration.

    After Reagan and the Republicans passed the 1986 amnesty the GOP should have reaped a windfall of Hispanic votes, according to your theory. Instead its share of the Hispanic vote dropped sharply.

    John McCain sometimes gave the impression that he was running for President of Mexico and not the US. He lost the Hispanic vote in a landslide.

    Hispanics in America are people who want increased spending by government. Amnesty for illegals is not high on their list of priorities.

  30. Severn says:

    >”today, very few people today would deny that Italians or Poles or Ashkenazim are white. The definition expanded from the Anglo-Saxon and Celtic Protestant identities to include pretty much every European background.”

    This is an urban legend. There never was a time when Italians or Poles (or Irish) or Germans were not considered “white”. Were they the full equals of the ruling class WASP’s in every respect? Of course not. But they had full equality under the law. Legally, they were on the same footing as any New England Brahmin whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

    • Agree: kerdasi amaq
  31. IanH says:

    As somebody who lives in California, I can tell you that this notion that everyone gets along is patently untrue.

    It’s no accident that that 1986 amnesty and the years following it correlated with an explosive growth in exurban development in the Inland Empire, San Diego County, and Kern County. Who do you think moved there? White families who could no longer live in LA or Orange or San Bernardino Counties. Compare Orange County of the late 70s and OC today, and you’ll see what I mean.

    Furthermore, a huge amount of the white population still living in the state are empty-nester baby boomers. They’ve remained where they are because they either don’t want to leave or, more likely, can’t sell their house. They have no choice.

    There are so many fallacies in this article that I’m truly insulted.

  32. hbd chick says: • Website

    “Similarly, there is overwhelming evidence that today’s immigrants want to learn English, gain productive employment, assimilate into our society, and generally become ‘good Americans’ at least as much as did their European counterparts of a century ago.”

    the more i think about this statement, the more i realize how ludicrous it is. if hispanics were so keen on becoming “good Americans,” then why does univision exist in this country? why aren’t all those hispanic immigrants watching nbc or hbo with the rest of us americans? why are there telenovelas on my tv instead of soap operas? why are they watching fútbol instead of football? why are they booing at the national anthem when it’s played at a soccer game? why do i have the option to press 2 for spanish wherever i go? why aren’t they all just learning english immediately upon arrival?

    i suspect it’s because a h*ckuva lot of them just aren’t interested in becoming “good Americans.”

    • Agree: kerdasi amaq
    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  33. Pointsman says:

    Try reading the PDF (button on first page). Much easier on old eyes like mine.

    A lot of fascinating stuff, and interesting takes on many subjects. Heavy going for a blog though, and I intend to read it again before I comment. In the meantime:

    “During the mid-1990s, a wealthy California
    environmentalist, David Gelbaum, himself the grandson
    of Jewish immigrants from Europe and with a
    Mexican-American wife, grew outraged over the nasty
    racial tone of the political battle unleashed by Pete
    Wilson and Proposition 187 and privately pledged
    $100 million to the Sierra Club on the condition that
    it never turn anti-immigration.”

    Freedom of speech anyone?

  34. tbraton says:

    “the more i think about this statement, the more i realize how ludicrous it is. if hispanics were so keen on becoming “good Americans,” then why does univision exist in this country?”

    And why do we need ballots written in Spanish or any language other than English?

  35. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    As a Hispanic-America, I would not be so sure on the fate of the Republican party. I’m a registered Hispanic republican and I guess what you can call a “Ron Paul fanatic libertarian”.

    There does seem to be some inconsistencies with the majority of Hispanic voting patterns as most do vote Democrat, but don’t share the same views as it’s base. Most Hispanics and Latinos are religious Catholics ad oppose gay-marriage and abortions overwhelmingly something the Democratic base supports.

    Then there’s the problem of how too many Hispanics and Latinos are dependent on Govt. When your a Govt dependent then yes most likely you will vote Democratic, how ever as the economy continues to deteriorate and hyperinflation perhaps kicks in, then entitlement programs will certainly be cut in a draconian manner. These groups of people are incentive’s to have more children with programs like food stamps, but what happens when such a program is no longer available?

    Eventually truth wins out and people regardless of background will be forced to realize the unintended consequences of thins such as unions, minimum wage laws and the disaster that is a fiat currency.

  36. James says:

    I agree with some of Unz’s claims, but he’s dead wrong about Hispanics and whites getting along. Sure, they’re not beating each other on the streets with clubs, but there is much animosity (at least in the three cities I’ve lived).

    The problem with Unz’s argument is that he assumes that Hispanics will assimilate the same way whites have. But there is a bit problem with this argument. About 98% of the Hispanics coming to the US aren’t Western.

    As others have quoted at other websites:

    The CIA World Fact books puts Mexico at:

    60% Mestizo
    30% Amerindian
    and
    less than 10% European

    Using genetic testing, Ruben Lisker has found lower-class mestizos to be:

    59% Amerindian
    34% European (oft. Spaniard)
    and 6% Black

    Average mestizo IQ: 86

    These people are not Western.

    • Agree: kerdasi amaq
  37. Pointsman says:

    “Admittedly, corporate profits might suffer a little and some businesses at the lowest end might disappear; but corporate profits are already doing quite nicely these days,”

    You can say that again. They are at record levels.

  38. @James: “I agree with some of Unz’s claims, but he’s dead wrong about Hispanics and whites getting along. Sure, they’re not beating each other on the streets with clubs, but there is much animosity (at least in the three cities I’ve lived).”

    Hmm, so James wants to keep prattling on about how Hispanics are “not Western,” are kind of dumb, and really so other that there is no possibility of them integrating.

    And curiously enough, he has experienced some animosity vis-a-vis Hispanics where he has lived. Who could imagine?!

  39. jb says:

    “And yet today, very few people today would deny that Italians or Poles or Ashkenazim are white. The definition expanded from the Anglo-Saxon and Celtic Protestant identities to include pretty much every European background.”

    I’m not entirely certain about Jews, but I don’t believe for a minute that Italians (the people of Cicero and Leonardo!) or Poles were ever considered non-white by anybody.

    I asked my mother about this once. She is in her 80’s, of pure Eastern European extraction, and she would often tell us stories about how her people were mistreated, and ridiculed as “hunkies,” by more established white Americans. Yet when I told her of the claim that Eastern Europeans were once considered non-white, she was flabbergasted! The idea anyone might ever have thought of her, or her people, as non-white, had never once occurred to her, not in her entire life.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  40. Brad says:

    I have a somewhat different take on the scatter plot. Excluding DC (which I agree is anomalous), the alleged correlation between the black population % and white voting patterns is completely due to states that were in the Confederacy, and in particular, the “deep south” states (ex Florida) from Louisiana to South Carolina. For states that weren’t in the Confederacy but have sizable black populations (Maryland, Delaware, New York, New Jersey), the white voting patterns are pretty much the same as in the country as a whole. So rather than interpreting the graph to mean that states that have larger black populations have white populations that vote more Republican, I think it says that southern states tend to have large black populations and white populations that vote very Republican.

  41. Pointsman says:

    “Any neoliberal Democratic officeholder who balked at a large rise in the minimum wage by citing the economic theories of Milton Friedman or the research reports of Goldman Sachs
    would be trampled into the dust by his enraged constituents, disappearing forever.”

    It would almost worth it to do it for that reason alone …

  42. JonF says:

    JB,

    By “non-white” I think the author (and others who make this comment about past immigrants) really means that those immigrants were considered “people not like us” and often “people inferior to us” by Americans whose families were well-established here. Not a matter of skin color or putative race a such.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  43. Pointsman says:

    ” [anti-immigration voters] might make life very uncomfortable for any Republican politician who opposed this plan without providing a realistic alternative in its place.”

    I fully intend to.

    This article was provocative, content-rich and well worth reading. While I disagree with a number of its points, I learned a lot. With reservations, I’m willing to try out your idea, the great proviso being that good ideas are inevitably tarnished, diluted, distorted and often as not rendered unworkable in the course of becoming law, especially as it is enforced.

  44. cfountain72 says: • Website

    “This includes a restricted legal immigration that seeks only English-speaking Canadians, Australians, and Europeans.”

    Really? There are actually people like this still living in America today?

    I would tend to agree with the sentiment that immigration levels are too high to allow for proper assimilation. I also tend to agree with Ron Paul that we have more of a welfare problem than an immigration problem, and that making sure illegal residents do not have access to these benefits will be a filter unto itself. I also know that some of the damned hardest working people I’ve ever known are of Mexican decent.

    But I also get the sad impression that some folks genuinely believe that if someone has too much melanin in their skin, and/or can’t speak English, that they are incapable of understanding the Constitution or the concepts of liberty and responsibility. With respect, I don’t think I need to tell you that an awful lot of native born, caucasian, English speakers have as little knowledge of what America ‘means’ as do the folks smuggled into Arizona in cargo trucks do. In fact, some of them even try running for president.

    Peace be with you.

  45. Pointsman says:

    Why don’t we hear more about a ban on immigrants working for THE GOVERNMENT?

    A ban on immigrants working for local, state and federal government would be easily enforced and definitely improve opportunities for the native born. A no-brainer that could be implemented TOMORROW.

    Good to see American Conservative back on the immigration beat. Mr. Unz makes a strong case. Strange new respect for Cesar Chavez …

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  46. Mercer says:

    The most depressing part of this article was reading about other countries having a much higher minimum wage. Considering workers there also get health care I think it is comical to hear people proclaim how exceptional America is.

    via nr agenda: Michael Dukakis wrote a piece along the same lines in 2006:

    ” if we want to reduce illegal immigration, it makes sense to reduce the abundance of extremely low-paying jobs that fuels it. If we raise the minimum wage, it’s possible some low-end jobs may be lost; but more Americans would also be willing to work in such jobs, thereby denying them to people who aren’t supposed to be here in the first place. ”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/opinion/25Duk.html

  47. Turmarion says: • Website

    Scott, I couldn’t have said it better myself. What is important is indeed “the other big ‘what kind of America’ questions –its class structure, its environment, it’s foreign policy, its economy.” If our values are passed on, and we make America the kind of country it should be, who cares if its inhabitants are white, brown, whatever? Unless, of course, the “what kind of America” questions include having blond hair and blue eyes–must resist…agghh…must resist Godwin’s Law….

    Mitchell Young: Frankly, I want my ancestors to look something like me, and given current immigration trends, they will look something closer to Benito Juarez.

    I assume you mean “descendents”. Then I ask you, why? Why would it be a problem for yoiur descendents to look like Benito Juárez?

    Geoff G., good post.

    Matt: I can’t say what will happen in the future, but just ask yourself one question: has the frequency of hearing and reading Spanish in your daily life increased or decreased over the past 10 years? The question practically answers itself.

    He oído, leío, y visto español con mucha má frequencia durante de los diez a&ntilde:os pasados. ¿Por qué es problema? ¡Y yo soy anglo y soy tan blanco como leche! As to my views on language generally, I’d refer you here.

    cfountain72: But I also get the sad impression that some folks genuinely believe that if someone has too much melanin in their skin, and/or can’t speak English, that they are incapable of understanding the Constitution or the concepts of liberty and responsibility. With respect, I don’t think I need to tell you that an awful lot of native born, caucasian, English speakers have as little knowledge of what America ‘means’ as do the folks smuggled into Arizona in cargo trucks do. In fact, some of them even try running for president.

    Absolutely!

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  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I think one of the main reasons that their isn’t more riots between ethnic groups in this country isn’t because everyone is getting along fine, its simply because whites refuse to fight back unless it involves punishing a few politicans here and there who support amnesty or jeremiah wright types being shown for what they are.

    America is changing for the worse, I imagine many if not most hispanics are hard working but I don’t want my country turning into Mexico which it is.

    The same thing is happening to the “old countries” where our ancestors came from..Does anyone really consider france still french when mosques outnumber cathedrals?

  49. Danny says:

    I thought this was a very good piece. It’s nice to see that the AmCon is no longer just parroting whatever Jared Taylor’s recent immigrant bashing idea is.

    What a lot of the posters here fail to recognize is that many of us Latinos living in the United States do not fly the Mexican flag, do not belong to gangs, and to not watch univision and do not favor amnesty or a reconquista.

    I may be Latino but I’m an American above all and I plan to stay that way and stay here.

    Those of us here LEGALLY are for the most part, upstanding citizens committed to the Constitution. We are not all Mexican. I don’t want the United States to become Mexico. I may be Latino but I’m perfectly western, thank you very much.

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  50. Pointsman says:

    “I may be Latino but I’m an American above all and I plan to stay that way and stay here. ”

    RIght on. We can’t have millions of illegals of any race running around loose, and they’re going to have to leave, but plenty of Latino Americans are “us”. When you remember the Alamo, don’t forget Juan Abamillo, Juan A. Badillo, Carlos Espalier, Gregorio Esparza, Antonio Fuentes, and Andrés Nava. And don’t forget that our immigration problem is much bigger than Mexico.

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  51. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Ron Unz’s headline comment “Will mass immigration destroy the GOP—and our middle-class society?” is the troubling part of this commentary. Apparently Mr. Unz believes that White people have a specific gene that is needed to be middle class. There is no evidence that supports such an opinion. Where does Mr. Unz live? Perhaps he is not part of the middle class. By the way since when did Republicans worry about the middle-class. Their concern seems to focus on the rich.

    It is the middle class that will be most impacted by lack of funds to support Social Security and Medicare. It is the middle-class that must rely on unemployment benefits when there are layoffs. The last time I checked the GOP wanted to change or eliminate these programs. It looks like crocodile tears to me.

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  52. jb says:

    Wait a minute!!! If the minimum wage is $10/hr in Canada, $13/hr in France, and $16/hr in Australia, why do those countries still have illegal immigrants?

    It looks like this experiment is already being tried in other countries, so we should pay attention to how well it is working there. For example, Australia gets boatloads of would-be refugees, but do they get visa-overstayers who slip into an underground economy, like we do? If a high minimum wage really is an automatic deterrent to illegal immigration, to what extent is it being undercut by “compassionate” social policies in France and Canada? And so on.

    The idea of using a high minimum wage as a weapon against illegal immigration is new (or at least it hasn’t been brought up much by the pro-restriction side) and interesting (in part because, as far as I can tell, it doesn’t conflict with any of the other policy changes advocated by the restrictionist side, so it could simply be added to them, even by those who don’t accept the rest of Unz’s analysis). So we need to look at the experience of other countries carefully to see to what extent it might actually help.

  53. Pointsman says:

    @jb: “Wait a minute!!! If the minimum wage is $10/hr in Canada, $13/hr in France, and $16/hr in Australia, why do those countries still have illegal immigrants?”

    They have far fewer per capita then we do. For example, Australia has under 50,000 illegals in a country of 20 odd million. (http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/87illegal.htm )

    Even France has under 600,000 in a population of 60 some million. ( http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=948_0_4_0 )

    But we’ve got at least 11 million illegals in a country of 300 million. There’s never been anything like it, a world record that only we ourselves seem likely to break.

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  54. Matt says:

    “He oído, leío, y visto español con mucha má frequencia durante de los diez a&ntilde:os pasados. ¿Por qué es problema? ¡Y yo soy anglo y soy tan blanco como leche!”

    The problem is that it proves that Hispanic immigrants or illegals aren’t assimilating at all; their presence is leading to changes in the host society to accommodate them. You may think this is fine and dandy, but assimilation it is not. One does not simply overturn established and working norms because society isn’t diverse enough, nor does one put people in an incomprehensible situation–say surrounded by a language they don’t understand–and then demand that they learn to adapt. This all used to be understood.

    I like languages too. I know some Italian and plan to learn Spanish in the distant future. Regardless, my personal feelings mean nothing on this issue.

  55. It may be worth noting that Alex Tabarrok has strongly endorsed Unz’s idea. He doesn’t like it of course.

    See “How to Unemploy Immigrants” by Alex Tabarrok

    “In a shocking op-ed in the NYTimes two well known liberals, Michael Dukakis and Daniel Mitchell (a former price-control Czar), acknowledge that the minimum wage creates unemployment. Nevertheless, they are in favor of raising the minimum wage. Why? Because it will create even more unemployment among immigrants than among natives.

    The mean-spirited, Machiavellian nature of their op-ed is chilling but I will give Dukakis and Mitchell this, their logic is impeccable.”

    Impeccable no less.

  56. A few points.

    1. Unz notwithstanding, there isn’t any evidence that Republican support for immigration restriction impacts Hispanic voting over the medium term, much less the long-term. By contrast, there is overwhelming evidence the demographic change is devastating to Republican / Libertarian prospects. See “The Politics of Arizona’s Immigration Law” (http://bit.ly/bwGi7k)

    2. There is vast evidence that immigration is undermining American society, across a long list of dimensions. The absense of violence doesn’t disprove this point. The list of “epic fails” is almost endless. We can start with floundering education, rising crime, unaffordable housing, unemployment, gridlock, illegitimacy, rising taxes, inequality, declining social cohesion, and political polarization.

    The decline of America via mass immigration isn’t even contreversial anymore. See

    “End State – Is California finished?” (http://bit.ly/2x2P6P)

    “At the gathering, held in a plush conference room, one of the experts projected tables and graphs comparing various states. It was there that I had my own “AHA!” moment. The states with thriving educational systems were generally northern, predominately white, and with relatively few immigrants: the New England states, North Dakota, and Minnesota. That bore out the late Senator Patrick Moynihan’s quip that the strongest factor in predicting SAT scores was proximity to the Canadian border. The states grouped with California on the lower end of the bar graph were Deep South states like Mississippi and Alabama with a legacy of racism and with a relative absence of new-economy jobs; states like West Virginia that have relatively few jobs for college grads; and states like Nevada, New Mexico, and Hawaii that have huge numbers of non-English-speaking, downscale immigrants whose children are entering the schools. California clearly falls into the last group, suggesting that California’s poor performance since the 1960s may not have been due to an influx of bad teachers, or the rise of teachers’ unions, but to the growth of the state’s immigrant population after the 1965 federal legislation on immigration opened the gates.”

    and

    “Innovation and education won’t save our economy – The truth that China’s dictatorship and America’s multinational corporations don’t want you to know” (http://bit.ly/gtmx2r)

    “The overall PISA scores of American students are lowered by the poor results for blacks and Latinos, who make up 35 percent of America’s K-12 student population. Asian-American students have an average score of 541, similar to those of Shanghai, Hong Kong, Japan and South Korea. The non-Hispanic white American student average of 525 is comparable to the averages of Canada (524), New Zealand (521), and Australia (515). In contrast, the average PISA readings score of Latino students is 446 and black students is 441.”

    3. Immigration can’t save Social Security. Sorry folks. Why? First all the numbers don’t work. See “Is the United States Bankrupt?” (http://bit.ly/aMM6k) by the St. Louis Federal Reserve.

    “Second, it is mistake to think that immigration can significantly alleviate the nation’s fiscal problem. The reality is that immigrants aren’t cheap. They require public goods and services. And they become eligible for transfer payments. While most immigrants pay taxes, these taxes barely cover the extra costs they engender. This, at least, is the conclusion reached by Auerbach and Oreopoulos (2000) in a careful generational accounting analysis of this issue.”

    However, that’s the good news. The reality is that low-skill, Hispanic immigration is a disaster for Social Security. Why? Social Security is a progressive system. Low income workers get much more from it, than they put in. The reverse is true for higher income recipients. Of course, higher life expectancy adversely impacts the economics of they system. Given that Hispanics have low incomes and high life expectancy, they are obviously not going to save the system.

    Of course, a more detailed analysis yields even worse results. See “The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Immigrants to State and Local Taxpayers” (http://bit.ly/aJCZzJ)

    “In 2004, there were 4.54 million low-skill immigrant households. The average net fiscal deficit per household for federal, state and local spending combined was $19,588. This means that the total annual fiscal deficit (total benefits received minus total taxes paid) for all 4.54 million low-skill immigrant households together equaled $89.1 billion.”

    “In FY 2004, the average low skill immigrant household received $30,160 in direct benefits, means-tested benefits, education, and population-based services from all levels of government. By contrast, low-skill immigrant households paid only $10,573 in taxes in FY 2004. A household’s net fiscal deficit equals the cost of benefits and services received minus taxes paid. The average low-skill household had a fiscal deficit of $19,588 (expenditures of $30,160 minus $10,573 in taxes).”

    4. It is obvious to virtually everyone that current immigration policy is driven by cheap labor corporate interests and racial special interest groups. To deny this is very weird. It is also the norm of U.S. history. Samuel Gompers once said

    “America must not be overwhelmed.

    “Every effort to enact immigration legislation must expect to meet a number of hostile forces and, in particular, two hostile forces of considerable strength.

    “One of these is composed of corporation employers who desire to employ physical strength (broad backs) at the lowest possible wage and who prefer a rapidly revolving labor supply at low wages to a regular supply of American wage earners at fair wages.

    “The other is composed of racial groups in the United States who oppose all restrictive legislation because they want the doors left open for an influx of their countrymen regardless of the menace to the people of their adopted country.’

    5. If we raised the minimum wage and deported the illegals, unemployment would go down and wages would rise. It would be the end of the world as we know it. The unimaginable horror.

    • Agree: Stonewall Jackson
  57. Mike says:

    Illegal immigration is neither a Democrat nor Republican issue, although both actually support it. Rather, it is all about the money.

    Business, both big and small, love and need Illegal immigrants. It gives them a very low cost, exploitable, and easily manipulated workforce.

    The Feds generally, as a Taxing authority, generally love them because it gives them a population segment upon which they can collect taxes with a highly reduced risk of having to pay it back. Illegals are not going to be requesting SSN benefits, IRS refunds, etc.

    Illegal immigrants are the new slaves. If you want to get rid of them, just go after those that hire them.

  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Herman Cain’s straw poll victory in Florida gives the lie to the idea that mainstream GOP voters will not vote for a minority candidate. It shows that they will do so, enthusiastically, if that candidate has the right message and upholds the right values. When one considers how the Rove strategy (formerly the Lee Atwater strategy) hasn’t worked out for the Republican Party – I say, “Just give it some time. Eventually, both black and Hispanic voters will make it in the middle class. And when they do, they will follow both their interests and their values and vote Republican”.

    All the paleocons have to give us is Reagan Democrat sour grapes. If these people are unhappy with the GOP, then I’d say go back home and take over the Democratic Party where you belong. If it is too tough to work your way through school, get a college degree, and make something of yourself, then you’re not fit to be a Republican.

    In the final analysis, this article is an insult to white people in America. It demeans their character and their competitiveness. It ignores their sacrifices, and their history. It is just as much an insult to my grandmother’s memory as Obama sneering at those who talk about pulling themselves up by the bootstraps.

  59. meh says:

    Ron Unz: “By contrast, although relations between whites and various other groups—Asians, Hispanics, and American Indians—have sometimes been hostile or even violent, these conflicts have never been nearly as long nor intense and are more like the often contentious relationships between various white ethnic groups. As our schoolbooks endlessly emphasize, black/white relations do indeed constitute a unique aspect of American history.”

    Okay Ron Unz, how will relationships be between blacks and various other ethnic groups – Asians, Hispanics, and American Indians? Can you spell out your prognosis? Or have you already done so if we read between the lines?

  60. Pointsman says:

    Alex Cockburn paid some positive attention to this article over at Counterpunch:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/30/goodbye-%e2%80%9cpeak-oil%e2%80%9d-hello-glut/

  61. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    As usual Ron Unz has published a very interesting idea. I should say at the outset that I’m an immigrant from india, and received my first real summer internship from Ron in 1994 as a physics undergraduate at stanford. I was there during the prop 187 hysteria and my personal experiences tally with what Ron writes- it sunk the GOP in CA for a generation. In fact, it is so bad that the name R next to a popular official ( LA county attorney cooley) caused him to lose the election because of votes from LA in spite of him being popularly elected in Los Angeles in a non-partisan election! He is right that the same thing will happen in AZ and GA in 10 years- since the GOP activists are causing Hispanic (and Asian) political polarization without any benefit in terms of the white vote for the GOP.
    Now as Ron has suggested the real issue is unskilled immigration that benefits small business owners while imposing dramatic costs on taxpayers, and the path to correction is a higher national minimum wage. This is only possible by a democratic administration- since we all know how much influence small business has in the GOP. While GOP activists may seem despaired, my prediction is that the health care reform, if it survives (entitlements usually do) will eventually cause immigration restrictions, since as Milton Friedman put it open immigration and welfare states do not coexist (see Canada above). Of course, by that time America will be much more racially diverse and mixed, and absent an explicit campaign by the GOP on racial polarization it will be a much more tranquil society- since the central battle of america between whites and blacks will be diluted with Hispanic (the original mixed race) and Asian immigration, intermarriage and assimilation as economic stagnation and restrictions on immigration take hold. In my view the only path of sustained political advantage for the republicans is dropping the tancredos and steve kings. There is another historical parallel- the black vote for the republican party did not bottom till 2008- 43 years post civil rights and 40 years after the original southern strategy started w Nixon (he won close to 40% of the black votes in pre- civil rights era). In today’s america a similar outcome for Hispanics would cause obliteration for the GOP- sailer strategists take note.

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  62. beowulf says:

    Ron, the group Universal Living Wage (just add .org) has a diabolically clever idea that’d force metro areas to choice between either a high minimum wage or a low zoning tax– Ed Glaeser’s term for the regulatory cost tacked onto housing prices in (ahem) smart growth jurisdictions. Phase it in over a decade to give (using an extreme example) the Bay Area time to (a) adjust to a $22.90/hr minimum wage or (b) flood the market with new low-income housing or, most likely, something in between.

    “We have devised a National formula that is based on each local economy throughout the entire United States. The formula is designed in such a manner that no matter whether you are in Austin, Boston, or L.A., if you are willing and able to work a 40 hour week, you should at least be able to afford a one-bedroom apartment.”
    * Work a minimum 40 hour week
    * Spend no more than 30% of income on housing
    * Index the minimum wage to the local cost of housing as set each year by the US Department of HUD (Fair Market Rents)”

  63. Adam says:

    I came across a link to this and was pretty amazed reading it. It has to be one of the least emotional, most coldly strategic political articles I’ve ever read, with logical conclusions drawn out of fairly convincing evidence that are actually surprising and not what I would have guessed at the outset, the first time in a long time that has happened. It was strangely heartening, even though I’m not sure I actually agree with any of it.
    Then I read the comments. I really wish I hadn’t. I’m half-Mexicans. My family came here in the late 40s and has become part of that portion of California Hispanics that Ron cites as peacefully coexisting with whites. My mother was disowned by her family for marrying my father but here we are one big happy family, what’s left of us, three decades later, and I have two master’s degrees and don’t even speak Spanish. Yeah, you see a lot of segregation still and resistance to assimilation from the new arrivals, but hey, my family was like that originally too. My dad was beaten up in school and called a nigger in spite of not even being black, held in prison for three days for “matching the description” of a murder suspect, and kicked out of a bar in Nebraska as recently as 1995 just for being Mexican. I still think we’ve ended up fitting in pretty well.
    I’m a conservative person by nature. My grad schooling is in economics. I favor small government, low taxes, non-intervention into private markets. I’m not religious but I’m even anti-abortion. But Christ, these attitudes are why I have so much trouble committing myself to even caring about politics. I voted for Bush in 2004, didn’t even vote in 2008, and now sit pretty damn firmly on the fence right now drifting in the wind just looking for a person who doesn’t play to the lowest common denominator and try to incite one group by blaming the other for all the world’s problems, then I come here to find, sure enough, the world is still full of Republicans who otherwise seem like natural policy allies of mine who speak of the decay of moral fabric in this country due to Mexicans and of not wanting their descendants to look like me, which I certainly hope my own white ancestors didn’t wish, but hey, they probably did, too. It’s weird to realize that my own grandmother, who sure seemed like she loved me when I was a child and she was still alive, probably hated me before I was born.
    I just came back from Iraq and I can’t believe I fought for some of you people. Hell, I killed for some of you people. I’ve got blood on my hands that will never wash off and I come back to find the immigration issue as hot as it’s ever been, with sincere commenters here saying they’d rather this country wall itself off from the barbarian hordes that made my life possible. I can only take solace in the reality that it’s going to happen anyway and most of you will be dead in the next twenty years and hopefully America will not be like this any more.

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  64. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A thoughtfully written article on a topic like this, but, like many other articles, it leaves out comparisons to other countries.
    For example, Japan has virtually no immigration. It’d be nice to see a comparison of the two countries. It’s politics, it’s society, its’ view of immigrants, it’s identity and it’s social capital, etc. It’s too easy to play up the idea of “white hateful racists”, when most countries around the world don’t have open borders to immigrants/strangers. South Africa is another good example, with black South Africans attacking northern immigrants. Kuwait is a good example of a tribalist/family-based social system. If you are an immigrant in Kuwait, you don’t get the socialist goodies like free University education, housing, etc.
    What if the US had that kind of system?

    You can talk about economics, illegal/legal immigration, pyramid ponzi schemes, minimum wage, labor prices, politics, economic disparity, unions, culture, etc, but at the end of the day, it all whittles down to American white couples choosing to have less children, or no babies at all.

    I cut, copied and paraphrased this quote from somewhere else:

    “The key to any race of people surviving is the woman. The white (European) woman has become so liberal that she is unknowingly destroying her own race of people. White woman have high rates of abortion, interracial marriage which produce nonwhite babies, delay children later in life and many choose to have no children at all, with ‘career’ as their primary focus.
    They are not reproducing in high enough numbers to offset their deaths. White people in America will be 4% of the population in 2097. One thing that whites cannot say is that another group of people have done this to them — this will be self-inflicted genocide.”

    I don’t agree with that last bit entirely. Immigration is completely an artificial process — it happens because the business elites in power decide for us it’s going to happen, whether we want it or not. But I do agree essentially with the key point — The only thing that can turn any of these problems around is white women’s fertility. That’s it.
    No new labor laws will change anything. No immigration reforms. No new technology. Nothing else will work.

    The premise that immigration increases the amounts of young tax-paying workers to pay for social programs for the old and retired, doesn’t hold water. To finance social security, you’d only have to raise taxes maybe a percentage or two higher on the younger workers. Or, simple spend less on the military, and more on seniors — but that’s not the case.

    I’m sure there has been many situations before in history, where a community has had more older people than younger people to take care of them. This could be the case in times of famine, disease or war. But somehow, those societies survived, without immigrating half of the 3rd world.

    Therefore, I think immigration has more to do with keeping labor prices and wages low, rather than this idea of growing a tax base to pay for social security.
    It also has to do with enriching bankers and property owners — All those immigrants need a place to sleep and live, so they either rent or buy a house. If they rent, they are making a landlord richer, who in turn is able to buy up another real estate property and expand. If they buy a house, their mortgage from the bank or broker will make a lender rich for decades. As my Grandma put it, you end up “working for the bank”, making payments for a long time.

    Someday in the future, the breaking point will come when you simply don’t need all these people, immigrants, and all this labor — this human energy. If America is already burgeoning at 350 million people, it could possible have 1 billion people someday. But what are all those billions of Americans going to be doing for work? Cutting each others hair and making pizzas for each other? Sounds like a 3rd world country.

    I can’t remember exactly, but wasn’t it Google that recently developed a taxi cab that could drive and navigate itself? How many cab drivers would be put out of work because of that?
    What if they created a robot that could clean a hotel room faster and better than a human can? Self-cleaning bathrooms already exist. How many housekeepers would that put out of work?
    Would we need all those thousands and thousands of immigrant workers?

    Technological displacement sounds absurd, but it’s already happened. Think about how many more bank tellers the banks would have to hire, if the “ATM” or automated banking machine wasn’t on every street corner. The banks would have to hire 3-4 human tellers for every machine out there.

    Anyways, it’s real hard to remain positive, thinking about this.
    If I could honestly look at this issue and see a rosey future and positive outcomes, I’d say it. But I don’t.
    I’m not convinced that just because everyone has larger LCD screens in their living rooms that things are “getting better”.
    I have to echo someone else’s comment — Too little, too late.

  65. Ed says:

    This article is WOW!

  66. Ron, Great ideas! But if California raised the minimum wage in 1996 how come there’s so many illegals there now? This is not a rhetorical question, I really hope you can answer it convincingly.

  67. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In the early centuries of European settlement of North America, the British basically drove the Spanish out of what became the United States. What people don’t seem to realize now is that this struggle is still going on, and now, without their even having to fire a shot, the Spanish are winning it back and defeating the British. The appalling and amazing thing is that the British are *inviting* them back, and falling over themselves to *give* the country, it’s governance and culture, to the Spanish, and generally with great guilt that they are not “doing enough” or being ” fair enough”. It is unusual, and sad, to see a great country and culture participate so completely in its own demise and dismantling.

    This is not about a fairer or more egalitarian society; it is about one culture taking over another, and is nothing less than a continuation of the previous war.

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  68. mark green says: • Website

    Thank you, Mr. Unz for a penetrating and persuasive analysis. You’ve even managed to convince this life-long libertarian that it’s time to raise the minimum wage. For unique reasons that you’ve brilliantly outlined, raising the minimum wage does now make economic and cultural sense.

    Allow me to respectfully take issue with one claim you make: “The notion that large numbers of immigrants and their families subsist on welfare or that Mexican immigrant mothers often have five or ten children is sheer nonsense.”

    Since many Hispanic families still live in the shadows, up-to-date information about their fertility rates may not be at hand. But I live in Southern California. I see young Hispanic immigrant mothers with five children commonly. This notion is not “sheer nonsense”. I see it. And many of these mothers are still young!

    Plus, while I agree with you that the workplace participation of Hispanics is high, the numbers of Hispanics receiving food stamps in California vastly exceeds–on a per capita basis–that of whites. Finally, since these low income immigrants families rely almost exclusively on free public education, their large families also constitute an extreme drain on California’s limited public resources.

    I believe that you and I agree that Mexican immigrants will integrate themselves into American culture easier, and probably more successfully, than those from Africa. But race and IQ do matter. And it’s Mexico’s underclass that is sneaking into the US. In the long run, this is bad news for our developed and complex society. Moreover, racially diverse nations are usually less trusting and less harmonious than homogeneous civilizations.

    We must therefore continue to deport illegal immigrants and, ideally, increase substantially the number of deportations. Further, Americans should continue to play hard ball on granting citizenship to illegal immigrants already here. I hate to be cruel, but these interlopers can easily return to Mexico and resume life there. Is that really so bad?

    It’s our right and in our interest to preserve America’s enviable European heritage as well as its current demographic profile. Europeans created the extraordinary civilization called America. It’s our right to hold onto it and our duty preserve it. After all, our children have a future, too.

  69. Raising the minimum wage would only effect one slice of the illegal immigration workforce; those working “legitimate” jobs under fraudulent social security numbers and identity documents. For the illegals who work agriculture, construction, or any of the jobs that pay cash under the table; a higher minimum wage boosts their desirability. Since our current minimum wage doesn’t keep illegals out of the legitimate job market (only proper documentation requirements do), I see no reason why boosting it even higher would. Instead, it will mean more unemployment for low skilled American workers and a boon to cash only payment for work.

  70. This piece should be reposted at the top of Unz’ site. It’s as relevant today as when originally penned.

    I’ve always held the belief that raising minimum wages was ultimately inflationary and harmful, but never considered it in context of our rampant invasion. In this new light, I could agree with raising the minimum wage to something near $12-$15/hr, but don’t think that alone will solve our problem. There must be a concomitant change in welfare to force those who’ve become multi-generational dependants into the workforce. In the past, we’ve seen the CCC and Eisenhower highway system increase workforce participation rates. Changing welfare to “workfare” with a massive infrastructure project like high speed rail is one option. Regional projects could also be entertained such as blight removal in Detroit. The city has hundreds of thousands of welfare dependants and blight from horizon to horizon. Require the recipients of public funds to work at the new and higher minimum wage to achieve a public benefit for the expenditures. Different regions have different needs, but I’m sure they all need something. And while this does somewhat strike me as socialist, it’s better than simply handing out free food, shelter, clothing, and transportation.

    In any case, America sits today on a precipice. The ultimate price of changing nothing in our approach will be economic collapse if/when the dollar loses reserve currency status and/or American debt becomes unsustainable due to interest rate increase or other cause.

  71. What a great article. So good that despite being very long I read the whole thing. Well written, well reasoned and it has certainly changed my mind about the minimum wage.
    I agree with the previous poster, Stan, that this article is as relevant today as it was when it was written and should be permanently at the top of the UNZ site.

  72. Good ideas. The most practical is an increase in the minimum wage and the citing of Henry Ford.

    I know that during the recent downturn in the economy, a considerable number of Mexicans did return to their homeland. The idea of paying them to self deport is good, but I don’t know how practical it would be, but it is much better than Trump’s ideas.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  73. a decade since the 1999 article. I guess time does change everything. even racial tensions. fractures mended in 2017? it has been 17 years.

    prop 58 is just too bad.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  74. jack ryan says: • Website
    @NotYou

    No they will just be singled out as a White MINORITY oppressing THE PEOPLE, the Majority.

    The situation in South Africa under White rule – was not endless rights and programs for the “Minority” – instead it was a push for Black Majority Rule.

    The other races, other races always think in terms of “us” and “them”. This individual non racial way of thinking or thinking “what’s best for the other guy” – not a Black, Arab, Muslim thing.

    • Replies: @Ace
  75. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Non-white immigration works against the best interests of the Republicans in the USA and the Conservative parties in Canada and the U.K. Yet strangely none of them ever did anything to stop it, I.E. – adopt a Sailer strategy.

  76. Years ago it used to be that the Republican party represented the richer people, the land owners, factory owners, bankers etc. The Democratic party represented the working class.
    This was long ago ( 100 years or so) when America was 80% to 85% European people.Now that America is about 55% or 60% European and identity politics is coming to the forefront, it is clear that the European people are moving over to the Republican party regardless of class or income.
    The Democratic party is not the workers party anymore but the party of minorities who when combined will soon be the majority. Yes there are still some brainwashed White people who will vote Democratic but soon in the near future a large percent (85%) of White people will identify as Republicans. For all practical purposes the Republican party will be the White people’s party.
    With the election of Trump you can see this already happening. It will only grow even if the ruling class tries to stop this from happening.

  77. @Kirt Higdon

    We have no desire for a hermit kingdom.

    Vast ongoing social, cultural, and economic interaction between Americans and people of other races and cultures is fully compatible with secure borders, national sovereignty, and the preservation / restoration of our historic ethnocultural majority and its mores.

    We can and should try to increase trade in both directions, to the benefit of both sides, with people and companies from many nations whose natives we would be unwise to settle in our lands.

    We can and should try to increase student exchange and other cultural-understanding programs, without letting people from other races and hostile or incompatible or less advanced cultures settle in our lands.

    We ca and should try to increase tourism in both directions massively, benefitting economies on both sides and giving many of us fascinating cross-cultural knowledge, experiences, and friendships. And yeah, still no need to let those new friends or acquaintances settle in our country, let alone in such massive numbers as to displace and marginalize or subjugate us.

    We can interact peacefully and productively much more with the rest of the world than we do now, without continuing to give away our country by allowing tens of millions of people to settle here who aren’t loyal to us and in fact are encouraged constantly to hate and resent and harm us.

    • Agree: bomag
  78. @Greg

    Any white European-descended person who speaks English, has no communicable diseases (including HIV/AIDS), a verifiably clean criminal record, and demonstrated means to support himself, should be welcomed with open arms. Russians who fit the bill should be let in as well.

    And even all these kindred folks should be required to post bond and/or have a us citizen sponsor, to defray possible costs they may impose on us American taxpayers through crime or welfare during their time as legal residents here.

  79. @eep

    We decide whether illegal aliens are “here to stay.” And we still have the numbers and resources to expel them en masse, through lawful and hopefully always peaceful means, if enough of us wake up and get the will to do it.

  80. @M_Young

    Exactly. Watch what they do and where they live, not what they say.

  81. @IanH

    Yes, yes, and yes, Ian.

    We live right in LA and although we have greatly enjoyed the proximity to concerts, NHL, and theaters, the concentration of diverse ethnic restaurants, meeting tons of tourists and businesspeople from around the world and practing our languages, etc., we have also had serious and increasing problems here. Problems with intimidation, actual violence both against me and a terrible incident that I witnessed and helped break up, and a depressing and insulting level of hostility, sarcasm, and disrespect from blacks in particular but also many, many nasty strange (and usually childless) white people.

    Combine those problems with the sheer alienness of the culture, the inability to simply make small talk and express good will, joke around, get to know people, and we are indeed itching to move to the suburbs.

    But, and correct me if I’m wrong, our years in this area suggest that the suburbs aren’t as much better in any of those areas as they should be, even fairly far away from downtown LA and West LA.

    Eventually we may come to our senses and leave California entirely. We are resisting that, but our patience is wearing thin. Most seriously, we don’t feel physically safe. It’s worse during election season but is a constant incident of life here now at any time.

    If they ever built truly high-speed rail, we could live pretty far from LA and commute here. But then, people presumably could use that rail to come out to the semi-American remaining towns and commit crime and interfere with our peace and safety out there too. What is a peaceful and lawful way to ameliorate this, if not solve it?

  82. @IanH

    Imagine the politics, economy, and culture of LA and California as those older whites pass away. God help us all — including the decent legal, working, English-speaking immigrants, who will also suffer as CA descends into some kind of untrusting, Balkanized, heavily gated, mostly-Mexican version of Brazil, but with much more racial strife and race-based competition for spoils.

  83. @Anonymous

    I don’t think that most younger Mexican-Americans in CA are prolife on abortion or opposed to homosexual marriage. Not at all. We even know numerous mex-Americans, both born in Mexico and born here, who are in the 40s and 50s and quite unthinkingly left-wing on abortion, homosexual marriage, and a host of social issues.

  84. @James

    Thank you for pointing this out. I wish those people the best, but they are not our people and should not be here in great numbers.

  85. @cfountain72

    Really, there are still people who think that saying “really? There are still people like this living in America?” is an argument?

  86. @Pointsman

    Superb idea. Given the size of the federal government and most state / city governments, US citizens would benefit substantially if noncitizens were barred from such jobs, as they should be.

  87. @Turmarion

    Yeah, white as milk, dangerously naive, and lacking healthy identity, pride, and solidarity with your own people and nation to boot (not government, not country, NATION).

    Spanish is a beautiful language, and about as closely related to English as German is. I’d enjoy hearing it and learning some more if our family were to vacation in, oh, Spain, Mexico, or Chile.

  88. @Danny

    Our experience suggests that you’re increasingly atypical of Mexican and other immigrants here, Bro. Unfortunately for both of us.

    Moreover, even if most legal immigrants are truly loyal to America and Americans and strive to fully assimilate — which is dubious — how does that offset the MANY MILLIONS of people who have come or stayed here illegally and their failure or refusal to respect our laws, culture, and language?

  89. @Pointsman

    Our immigration problem is much bigger than Mexico, alright, but Mexicans are the biggest part of the invasion.

  90. @Anonymous

    President Trump opposes cutting social security and medicare, as do many of his voters and smaller donors.

    Next, check data on which party gets the majority of federal political donations made by the very wealthy, and which gets the majority of the donations by the rest of us. Doesn’t fit your outdated stereotype.

    The establishment of both major parties have sold out regular Americans and will keep doing so until we throw them out of office en masse and stop trusting or consulting them on anything. But it’s nonsense to paint the republicans as the party of the rich and the Dems as somehow not.

  91. @Pointsman

    That estimate was woefully low two decades ago. More like thirty to forty million illegal aliens in the USA by now, I’d wager. Could be more than five million in California alone, easily. The invasion is in full swing.

    • Replies: @TWS
    , @Ace
  92. @Adam

    You’re looking forward to white people who oppose massive Mexican and third world immigration dying off. Yes, you’re a real loyal, assimilated, trustworthy American alright.

  93. @Anonymous

    You’re right, of course. With the quibble that very many, probably most white Americans are NOT of British — meaning English, Irish, Welsh, or Scottish — ancestry. Tens of millions of us are at least in substantial part Germanic, Slavic, Italian, French, etc., to name just the biggest non-British white groups in the USA that come to mind. The USA is at its strongest, most impressive, most interesting, and most well balanced when it has every white European people amply represented here, and not just the British peoples.

  94. TWS says:

    Why not just let go? According to Unz we’ve already slit our wrists let’s just bleed out quietly. Or we could slit across the road and up the highway by increasing Latinos. We have a choice after all.

  95. TWS says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Authorities deliberately under count illegals in my area by a factor of ten. I would not be surprised to see similar under counting in other areas.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  96. US immigration policies are essentially about emulating Israeli immigration policies.

    Israeli immigration policy is open borders for Jewish victim cultist, victims of Nazi and white supremacist oppression. Israeli’s refer to this policy as Law of Return.

    Likewise, US immigration policy is open borders for all government-recognized victim cultists, victims of Nazi and white supremacist oppression.

    Jewish organizations like the ADL have been busy training various victim cult groups, including Latinos, about Jewish and Latino oppression and how to garner federal government remedies:
    ….

    http://www.adl.org/12Home/search-results.html?cx=011346335056800985113%3Alqqt2atnvmk&ie=UTF-8&q=latino&sa.x=0&sa.y=0#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=latino&gsc.page=1

    • Replies: @Ace
  97. JohnDough says:

    Trouble is living here in Los Angeles different groups are becoming increasingly tribal. That’s how they are adjusting to the multi cultural society. With the largest group, Latinos I see a toxic symbiotic relationship. They have a separate cash economy and far too many benefit from zero taxes while still being able to collect the benefits of taxpayer social services. Schools, housing, health care, and affirmative action are some of them.

    Furthermore in this symbiotic relationship I see a nearly total neglect of federal law. Illegal status is a big one but another disturbing trend is how Latino businesses tend to only hire Latinos. Just take a look. Don’t take my word for it.

    The more integrated ones with better language/ English skills, some born here and usually of a lighter complexion (more Spanish) front the business and the darker complexioned Amerindian and Mestizos many non- English speakers and illegal are the cheap labor force. This undermines legal businesses with an unfair advantage. They can no longer compete on bids.

    There are no whites, blacks, Arabs, Asians, or Jews in the workforce. None. Very illegal federally. This shows tribalism and a desire not to integrate with the other groups in our society but to remain separate as a group survival strategy.

    This is just a replication of the age old Mexican and South American labor model. Not a good sign for American assimilation. E-verify and federal checks on labor could easily be used to stop this practice. However it’s not just “liberals” who want the open borders. Having a low paid workforce is desired by large corporate interests as well. These workers become the cheap pawns and soldiers of the open borders movement.

    Lastly it must be stated that there is the tendency of Jews to be champions of open borders (Jacob Javits) due to a feeling that somehow the US is like Nazi Germany if it tries to control it’s borders. This is an exaggerated emotional reaction. They have never had it so good as in America today as stated by Norman Finkelstein.

    Yet far too many of them also tend to self segregate in their own tribal communities. For an exaggerated easy to see model of this watch some of the documentaries on Kiryas Joel in New York state. They are an extreme model but some of the tendencies can be seen in the cultural sectarians we see in politics throughout the land. One has to question why they support open borders in the US and EU but not in Israel.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Ace
  98. Ben Frank says:

    Of the three major powers: (A) USA, (B) China and (C) Russia, which one benefits most from the following elite obsessions:
    1. Fantasies about a Trump-Putin connection?
    2. Unlimited immigration to USA?
    3. Globalization of trade?
    If you answered B, B and B then you are correct. Say “syeh-syeh” to our elites!

  99. @JohnDough

    We live in L.A. too, and you’re quite right.

    I have an acquaintance, a Mexican-“American” in her mid-20s, who recently told me — without a trace of embarrassment — about how she intends to scam our system even more than she already is.

    She works for another acquaintance 30-40 hours per week and gets paid in cash $20 per hour. She doesn’t report the income, while those of us who are paid on the books, of course pay enormous taxes, especially here in the People’s Republic of California (my wife and I pay just over THIRTY percent of our taxable income to the federal government and another NINE percent of our entire taxable income to the State of CA alone, and are hardly rich).

    This person mentioned that she is about to turn 26 and then will no longer be able to stay on her parents’ medical insurance. So, she is applying for “free” medical care through Medi-Cal — you know, medical care paid for in large part by CA state income tax, which she doesn’t pay.

    She further mentioned that she is not going to marry her long-time live-in boyfriend even after they have the baby they plan to have, because that way she and the baby can receive both food stamps and Medi-Cal without her boyfriend (the “father”) paying for any of it.

    She doesn’t realize, apparently, how disgusted I am with her each time she casually mentions the latest “clever” way she leeches off the rest of us.

    This gal has an iPhone 7 Plus, while my wife and I have older iPhones, and she drives a far newer vehicle than we do. Although ideally I’d prefer no state income tax, I am having a harder and harder time not f—–g reporting her for the cash-wage income-tax evasion.

    • Replies: @mtn cur
  100. Ace says:
    @jack ryan

    Correct. No race in history has ever proved itself as stupid as the white race.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  101. Ace says:
    @RadicalCenter

    The 11M figure is a sacred, holy, unchanging, unchangeable, precious, immutable, talismanic figure that proves that the problem of illegal immigration is nothing to worry about.

  102. @Ace

    nah, more like open borders thing should only be done with countries that are the same as usa on the economic and human development scale.

    ex: members of the EU have open borders with each other, that works.

    but when you allow in mass immigrants from the middle east/africa with completely different cultures and little to no education, that is when you get massive problems.

    https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p25-1143.pdf
    check the graphs and charts starting around page 10. it is the breeding rate of Hispanics that will change the demographics of this country. nothing else.

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @RadicalCenter
  103. Ace says:
    @Adam

    It’s possible that “matching the description” was sincerely believed by the cops to mean “matching the description.” It was a distinct possibility, I’m thinking, rather than there being some nefarious motive of the cops to detain a Mexican-appearing guy for the heck of it.

    I’m glad that quality people like you and your family are here, but you are being being deliberately obtuse when you say that Republicans “speak of the decay of moral fabric in this country due to Mexicans and of not wanting their descendants to look like me.”

    It’s about job theft, crime, prison populations, vote fraud, bankrupting hospitals, demands for recognition of Spanish, and pulling the country left. It’s about arrogant, anti-white, ethnic advocacy organizations like LULAC, MeCHa, and that toad Ramos crowing about the US belonging to Mexico and reconquista.

    It’s about MS-13 and photos of crotch-grabbing Mexicans flipping the bird at whites. It’s about Mexicans demonstrating on our streets carrying Mex flags and consular ID cards.

    It’s about whites being glad for having good people emigrate here but also objecting to a satanic agenda that says we have to meekly submit to being a minority in our own country and having foreigners with no roots here taking over our country.

  104. Ace says:
    @Joe Franklin

    Had me going there for a second.

  105. Ace says:
    @JohnDough

    I think Prof. MacDonald says that it’s a Jewish fear that any white, Christian nation can suddenly build gas chambers for no reason at all except for the completely irrational 2000-year hatred for Jews. This must be forestalled by destroying white, Christian power.

    Dislike of border control as being Nazi is an unsatisfactory explanation as Israel’s own rigid border controls attest.

    • Replies: @JohnDough
  106. Ace says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    I agree but I don’t understand how that relates to my comment.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  107. @Ace

    you were talking about how stupid the white race is. I am just showing you info why/how that is. immigration without assimilation is cancer. I am in agreement fyi.

  108. Ace says:

    Thanks. Gotcha now. Duhh.

  109. JohnDough says:
    @Ace

    The trigger word Nazi is used when people don’t want open borders. A word conditioned and abused to make people cower and conform. It’s already emotionally charged through years of propaganda and harm to people.

    As Prof. MacDonald says it’s all about group survival and the Jews really do fear it will be Muslims, Mexicans, and then them. It’s totally irrational. Plus the Zionists both Jewish and non Jewish sure whipped up Muslim hatred in the USA over the last 25 years because of their beloved illegally nuclear armed Israel. Now they can’t get the Genie back into the bottle and the hordes are invading Europe!

    Another reason Putin is despised by Washington and many Jews in power positions is that he instituted Russian Orthodoxy back into Russian culture. This nationalism goes against the atheistic communists which came before. This nationalism can’t be allowed in the NWO. The USSR was false communism at that and a bloody mess of lies.

    This really clips the wings of Jewish power there. And many on this site will know who many of the communists were. Just read “Two Hundred Years Together” by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

    Now in the US we are seeing a cultural revolution similar to Mao’s. White culture and history are being undermined. Yet that’s why everyone seems to want to live here. NGO’s sponsored by the Soros Open Borders Foundation and such are spreading foment throughout the land with the media in collusion.

    The latest is the attack at Middlebury College against “The Bell Curve” author Charles Murray. This is what we get with affirmative action aid to students? Students totally against freedom of speech and the police didn’t arrest anyone even though property was destroyed and people were attacked.

    The open borders Jewish survival strategy sure is an insane one. It sure isn’t working in France as many Jews leave and it’s not going to work here. If they are worried about white Christians, the people who let them thrive here what do they expect from Muslims and other groups? As those comedians of old said: “I do I do and I do and this is the thanks I get I tell you?” Oy vey!

    • Replies: @RobRich
    , @Ace
  110. RobRich says: • Website
    @Adam

    Adam, look into the US Libertarian Party. This last election especially young Hispanic women went big for them. Plus they have parties in Mexico, Costa Rica, Russia, etc.

    Unlike most of the people here, they understand the difference between immigration, seeking naturalization, and invasion.

    They’re dwarfed by the non-partisan Libertarian International, which is run by tough-guy Hispanic-Britannics going back to founders of the US and Spanish Empires and mostly seem interested in lifestyle improvement/futurism and dismantling Islamo-fascism at present.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  111. RobRich says: • Website
    @JohnDough

    JohnDough

    “The latest is the attack at Middlebury College against “The Bell Curve” author Charles Murray. ”

    Yeah. What’s going on is the far-left is being slowly eaten up by the Libertarians so they’re hysterically trying to paint libertarian progressives like Murray (who has a lot of common sense on racial and class issues IMHO) as fascists and racists.

  112. Ace says:
    @JohnDough

    The burying of “Two Hundred Years Together,” the concealment of Jewish representation in the ranks of the Bolsheviks and esp. in the ranks of the Cheka in Ukraine, and the concealment of Jewish leadership of post-1917 coup attempts in Hungary (successful), Austria and Germany has apparently been the number on priority of the moneyed Jewish elite.

    The incessant, obsessive focus on the (right-wing) National Socialists and the Holocaust have been a massive misdirection campaign. How many movies have been made presenting evil Nazis who are caricatures of normal humans as opposed to movies depicting the unspeakable crimes of totalitarian communism? The really sick thing about the German holocaust is not that certain people choose to deny it in whole or in part but that the true crimes of the Soviet and Chinese communists have gone “uncelebrated.” And never will. Communism is alive and well in the upper reaches of America and Europe.

    I don’t like to speculate along these lines but it’s clear that enormous resources have gone into concealing the Jewish role in 20th-c. Russian revolutions or coups, not to mention Jewish over-representation in the ranks of American communism. There must be some stark and unpleasant truths here otherwise there would not be the obvious enormous efforts to suppress and misdirect. After all, “Two Hundred Years Together” is just one book among many. If it’s poor scholarship and a lie, what exactly is in it that has made finding a publisher in the West for an English translation impossible?

  113. Anonymous [AKA "adoubtr2"] says:
    @Rossbach

    I have read that the U.S. has had open borders for almost the two hundred years of it’s existence. And, even AFTER the U.S. started to issue visas and passports, Mexicans were still permitted to come across the border in large numbers. The “fact” that Mexicans have “taken” jobs away from American citizens is unadulterated bull shit. U.S. Citizens do not necessarily want 12-14 million Mexicans to go home, now, after our government has ignored the issue for 30 years. That’s absurd, as well. Mexican people that are here in this country and want to work and want to stay here have shown me that they have a higher level of work ethic and a generally higher level of morals than a lot of American Citizens. In other words, they are MORE desirable than our own citizens.
    What is necessary at this point is for the Federal Government to GOVERN…to write and pass the law that will make this ridiculously fake problem go away once and for all by giving Mexicans who want to stay here a quick, humane, and honorable way to become citizens of a Country that they love and want to stay in. Anything less is stupid. The U.S. needs the revenue from their earnings. We need to issue these wage earners their own Social Security numbers so that the MILLION of them that are using OTHER peoples’ social security numbers (this according to the head of the IRS in an article written in April of 2016) and have their own. This Government has STOPPED governing. Washington DC is a joke and has been for a long time. We, The People, are the only ones that can DEMAND the fixes that are necessary to Make America Great Again. Donald Trump (and I voted for him) is a joke. Our Federal Government is a joke that is more interested in following the foolish designs of the DEEP STATE One Worlders than the wishes of the People. We need to get rid of the John McCains and Hillary Clintons and all of the other Rhinos in DC and TAKE BACK OUR GOVERNMENT AND FIX THE STAGNANT joke that Washington DC has become.
    Let’s fix this immigration system, NOW. Forget about a damned wall. We don’t want a damned wall that will prevent us from leaving. This country is already becoming a Police State in many regards. It doesn’t need to move even more towards fascism. This country needs common sense governance…not politically expedient governance.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @Paintersforms
  114. UNZ

    What became of the article on Generals and Ideologies? It seems to have been banished to dwell under a troll bridge.

  115. pauln says:

    Parsing future birthrates is an exercise fraught with possible error. Here is just one to consider:
    Track the STD rate for non-whites, especially in California. Figure what percentage of that will lead to involuntary sterilizations. Now redo your future birthrate algorithms. Then, taking a look at diabetes…..It is enough to make you believe in conspiracies. OR at least, pulling the plug on Medicare first thing when the Federal Budget process starts collapsing.

    Democracy guarantees Factionalism. There is no faction more persistent than Race. This all ends in disaster, or a return to a largely majority White America. No other options in the long run.

  116. Agent76 says:

    Mar 6, 2017 What is Immigration according to past text books?

  117. mtn cur says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Drop a dime on the silly heifer, the military yachting complex cost us a hundred for every buck the ones like her do, but she should know that thieves shouldn’t brag to their marks.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  118. Anonymous [AKA "jason king"] says:
    @profwatson

    If USA increases minimum wage, the invasion of illegals will also increase, because they will be attracted like iron to a magnet, If only poors migrate with a wages of 10 dollars per hour , with 13 or 15, also the midium class of many countries will want to go USA. The more honey you put in your kitchen, more ants you will attract. And paying money to people you dont want in your home is bad idea. they will feel they are the masters now, undesirable people must leave because the owner of the land wants them out, not because they agrree to make a favor. If I enter your home (illegally) to steal some things, or I just enter to live in one of your bedrooms for free, would you offer me money for leaving?

  119. @Ron Unz
    ” This represents a remarkable, almost unimaginable, demographic change from our country of the early 1960s, when whites accounted for over 85 percent of the population and seemed likely to remain at that level indefinitely.”

    Back then Hispanics (and Latinos) were counted as white but not now. Just imagine how much of a difference it would make to demographics if all the Hispanics in California, Texas , Nevada,Arizona were counted a white.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  120. Anonymous [AKA "PCJones"] says:

    The solution to stop illegal immigration is very easy, just kill welfare for illegals, stop giving them employments, no more food stamps, no free hospital services, and FINE all people that enter illegally, if they dont pay, cherge toe fine to their countries of origin. Of their copuntry denies to pay the fines of their illegals, block it economically ( like Cuba was blocked for so many years). Congressmen seem not to have brain, they dont do anything effective against illegals (por maybe they are being bribed by countries of the illegals). If illegals dont have anything for free in USA they will have to leave. They go USA because many idiot Americans love them and give them a lot of benefits. If USA continues giving welfare to invaders, half of the world will try to enter USA legally or illegally. USA must stop being the stupid of the planet.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @JC1
  121. @Hardeep SIngh

    Yeah, we are glad you came here to lecture and enlighten us. GTFO.

  122. @Astuteobservor II

    Agree with you, except that it is no longer safe or wise for EU members to blindly admit anyone from other EU member states. This is because “german” and “French” and “Swedish” citizens are increasingly likely to be Muslim, African or Arab, or both.

    The central and eastern European countries need to get out of the EU, or stay out, as the case may be, and form a bloc with common border security, diplomatic front, and freer cultural and economic exchange among the white European peoples of the bloc.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  123. @RobRich

    Please, man, nobody went big for the LP. I’m glad they did better than usual, despite Gary Johnson coming across in an odd offputting way and being suicidally naive on immigration, but neither female Hispanics nor any other major demographic group went big for them.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  124. anonymous[404] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    In other words, ‘Radical Center,’ (and I would say the Libertarians are the actual Radical Center) he’s wrong on libertarians because you don’t know the actual facts. Instead, you lie about what he said.

    What I see is the Libertarian Party got 7 times their normal Presidential vote nationwide, much higher in many states. Someone’s going big.

    I agree also that the Libertarian approach gets the difference between invasion and immigration. The extremes confuse the two. Many of the commenters and writers here seem to do so often. They’re different issues. The Wehrmacht wasn’t immigrating to France so therefore down with free immigration.

  125. @Hardeep SIngh

    Hardeep Singh (“no one I know wants an end to White America”)

    evidently is not widely acquainted with Jews.

    as to Unz and his now – to put it mildly –

    outdated essay:

    diversity+proximity=war.

  126. @greysquirrell

    just imagine if most Hispanic crime was coded by the jew.gov as

    White crime. Actually,

    it is.

    which is where Unz gets his nonsense about “immigrant crime” being no worse than White crime.

    honestly, a few more tricked-up bloviations like this one, and Ron

    will be endangering his newly-won Honorary Aryan status.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @neutral
  127. geokat62 says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    which is where Unz gets his nonsense about “immigrant crime” being no worse than White crime.

    Warning, you may have just violated an unwritten Unz Review policy regarding posting comments on the topic of immigration without satisfying this one prerequisite for doing so: Are you familiar with John Tampon (sp?) or his anti-immigration views? If not, you must refrain from posting any future comments on this topic.

  128. Thomm says:

    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once. His strategy is particularly elegant when one observes the progression of Ron’s articles over the years (such as this one from seven years ago).

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing, and am eager to see him go for the kill by around 2020 or so.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @JLK
    , @Sam J.
  129. JC1 says:
    @M_Young

    Not only did Pete Wilson win, but so did Prop 187 though people either forget that or deliberately gloss over the fact as if it was something to be embarrassed about. Perhaps Mr Unz can be confident about how this will go because the other side has the checkmate advantage of the courts, so it really doesn’t matter what most of the population thinks.

  130. JC1 says:
    @Anonymous

    Again, that was what Prop 187 was all about and it did pass by a comfortable margin.

  131. Jake2 says:

    Maybe Karl Rove and George Bush should have actually asked Republican voters how they felt about the issue. Crazy, I know.

  132. @Thomm

    I do think that you are full of hot air. Unz is only trying to get a snapshot of critical point in history of mankind. It could be eventually valuable. My opinion is that he could be most probably right.

  133. bomag says:
    @Scott

    White (or not white) America really doesn’t mean much relative to the other big “what kind of America” questions –its class structure, its environment, it’s foreign policy, its economy.

    But personnel is policy. You take for granted the nice things that attracts people to white run countries will continue under new management. Not necessarily the case.

  134. bomag says:
    @Anonymous

    the definition of “white” has proven to be considerably more elastic than is often suspected.

    Does that change anything in the historical debate? It has always been about sharing the country with Others versus keeping it for the descendants of who is here now. Many Anglo-Saxons in the early 20th century wanted to maintain the country as predominantly Anglo-Saxon; were they wrong to think that way? If there are only so many slots available, why not fill it with your own? Immigration apologists like to tell us that everything has worked out in spite of dire warnings from the nativists; but it misses the point that the place might be considerably better than it is now if the nativists had won out and filled the place with their kinsmen. That the definition of “white” has shifted is beside the point.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  135. wesmouch says:

    The work of economist Jorge Borjas shows that illegal immigration transfers about 2-3% of GDP from labor to capital. Given a GDP of $19 trillion that is quite a chunk of change. Those that benefit want more illegal immigration. (BTW as a retired person with capital I personally benefit from this but I am aware of the more serious detriment to my daughter who will have to live as a white person in a multiracial society). Of course Dems want a large underclass that can be bought off with welfare and will vote for them. This seems to be the most significant issue of our time. Continued immigration especially the illegal kind will lead to a white minority polarized society like Brazil. As someone who has traveled extensively in the third world I know the results will not be pretty. BTW Mr Unz is incorrect. Illegals commit more crime disproportionately, in fact 25% of Federal prisoners are illegals. Add the added ill effects of increased costs to the taxpayers providing free education and healthcare (via ER visits plus) to illegals combined with reduced wages to the lower middle class and you have a serious calamity. The fixes are simple: repeal the 1965 immigration act, build a wall, eliminate dual citizenship, reform the asylum process, enforce e-verify, actively check the immigration status of anyone arrested and deport the illegals, end birthright citizenship, etc. Additionally, illegals use identity fraud to obtain fake SSN and use the EITC to obtain illegal payouts from the IRS. Active prosecution of these crimes would help self deport illegals. Eisenhower did it with Operation Wetback. I think Mr Brimelow is right and immigration both illegal and legal should be frozen for decades to allow assimilation. This would allow for about 50,000 visas for asylum cases as that is the net number of people voluntarily leaving the US.

  136. Renoman says:

    Waaaay TOOOOO Long, my God man learn to speak without shitting yourself.

  137. JLK says:
    @Thomm

    That’s quite a theory, and I hope that Mr. Unz refutes it openly, either by posting directly on this comment-thread or better yet building a privacy policy/statement of good faith into the “About” page on the site.

    We don’t need more confusion than we already have.

  138. anomymous says:
    @Rossbach

    I agree Mr. Uniz made quite a number of statistically relevant points. but

    NO Mr. Unz, it was not a HOUSING BUBBLE that COLLAPSED THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, IT WAS THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT AND its partner THE then CORRUPT Banking and HOUSING BOND INDUSTRY and THOSE BUREAUCRATS in certain places, as well as certain elected salaried USA puppets of the Oligarchs; collectively they knowingly planned, created, and executed the conditions THAT COLLAPSED THE USA ECONOMY.

    The tool the elected puppets used to collapse the economy of the nation of Americans, involved deed transfers (the underlying collateral for the home mortgages) and the sales and transfers of the mortgage loans that were tied to the deeds; both were generally well hidden, disguised, and recorded in places that made it difficult to discover who owned what, or where anything was. Hiding avoided or long delayed title histories when a foreclosure or a distressed sale happened, but more important to the scam was that titles and mortgages recorded in difficult to find places prevented bond buyer due diligence on the mortgage (bond) packages. Deeds, mortgages and foreclosures were often not recorded in the county court house where the property was located. People would get a foreclosure notice from a bank they never heard of or a mortgage processor who would not advise the loan paying homeowner that a bank different than the one he made a loan at was now the owner of the loan. (for a long time, many people did not know about private recording firms such as MERS as only bankersters, fraudsters and bondsters knew). Yes housing prices did go up, but the rise was associated to bond cost, fueled by always existing consumer housing demand everyone wants a home for nothing..

    Regulations were relaxed to allow home loans to penniless street beggars( $0.25 cent quarter and a signature to a $6 million dollar mansion),. A global corrupt banking and bond scam . Wall street corruption at its best! Local banks, and certain law firms acquire, package, and sold mortgage backed bonds. American mortgage debt owners discovered they were paying their mortgages to a different place they never heard of every few months, (the home place became irrelevant to everyone but the poor sap that owned the soon to be foreclosed mortgage). These worthless packages of mortgages (now called bonds) were packaged and sold in lots of $100,000,000 or more each to innocent foreign investors ( housewives and retirement savings around the world were fraud-ed into believing the bonds were USA guaranteed housing bonds, (some were. that’s what sold the package), the bonds in the packages were sold and the buyers of the bonds were told the home buyers were good to make the payments, but credit-less homeowners are not a good risk. Paper trash mortgage backed bonds were used to take the savings and quash the hopes of millions of people, banks and investors in HK, China and Japan, Germany, and elsewhere. The bond scam, not housing bubble, exemplifies how Oligarchs use government to scam the governed at home and the people of the rest of the world at the same time.
    NEVER ever has their been a greater theft. There was never a house bubble it was a bond crime.

    The Glass Stiegall Act, a act which prevents banks from being both banker, bond broker, and investment advisor, was dropped, organizations set out to destroy the ability of domestic America to finance a tooth pick (by bankrupting them all) while at the same time, 10 pennies on the worthless fraudulent housing bond dollar were sold at full face value. The same financial bandits used their control over the USA government to recoup for themselves the trillions of dollars those bonds cost the US Treasury, receiving first the profit on the bond sale, then the value of the losses in dollars as the bonds defaulted, plus normal commission on the recoup and profi. I call this the second scam (the bond packaging after scam) the media called it a Bailout. Somewhere in that history I smell an Oligarch.

    The only problem persons in the nation of America have is with the elected, salaried 527 puppet of the oligarch. To be elected to the USA, candidates must be presented to voters for election by the Oligarch (democrat/Republican corporations). Americans may, if they like, chose 2 each from the slave of 527 person to vote for. (That’s right, there are 527 elected high paying puppet of Oligarch jobs, but each American gets to vote for persons to fill only 5 of the jobs.

    Corruption, not necessarily in the government, but that is executed by and through the government has become a problem every American has been working to overcome. Its not race, gender, jobs, social security, medical services, labor, or education, its that the people of the Nation of America have been made the victim of the science of psychology; the victim of privately owned, instead of government owned, media, and they have been made the slaves of a government the oligarchs manipulate as they please. The slave drivers are those temporarily appointed (nominated) by Oligarchs making the slave driver election eligible: popular vote determines which eligible person, gets the job.

    IMO, anyone not criminal or a terrorist should be welcome in the nation of America, no matter if the USA wants to shoot them or not. We Americans are a hospital bunch, and our immigration history shows quite satisfactory results. The best people, from where ever they come from, come to America. It takes an industrious persons to pick up stakes and move to America to start again, dealing with the secret, spyoneveryone USA is not for everyone. To solve the immigration problem everyone coming to America should be educated to the fullest extent possible. You want to be a citizen of America, pass this test. Our immigration policy should put everyone who comes here in school on a campus much like Paris Island, until they can be certified as non criminal and until they can pass the test.

    Its the puppet politicians and the oligarch owned media that keep our numbers divided. We are all humans but to listen to the media only certain of us have any right to be human? The Oligarchs tell us we need to vote our race or our class or whatever. Americans I think, generally ignore that (in spite of the statistics), instead, Americans try to find the least dishonest politician to vote for, no matter what the USA or its privatized public media, or its party organized Oligarchs say? It is the oligarchs and their puppet politicians that arrange voting districts to block or take advantage of how Americans feel at election times that create the statistic.

    There is a much greater problem than immigration facing working humans, its robots.
    Thank you for the article.

  139. Anonymous [AKA "Jeremy Parker"] says:

    Ron or Razib, do you have a source on the 1990 Wilson vs. Feinstein polling numbers? Specifically,

    “For example, Pete Wilson’s narrow 1990 gubernatorial victory over Dianne Feinstein, which significantly relied upon his criticism of “racial quotas,” was achieved with 53 percent of the white vote, 47 percent of the Hispanic vote, and 58 percent of the Asian vote according to the prestigious California Field Poll used by the New York Times, though others placed his ethnic totals lower.”

    I searched but couldn’t find a source polling these numbers, and only found an old PDF that didn’t cover race. http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/pubs/CalPolls/1568.pdf

    The Field Poll has also since gone defunct in the time since the article was written

  140. lavoisier says: • Website

    RU has done, as usual, his homework.

    His proposal for a substantial increase in the minimum wage is wise for many reasons.

    First, it would bring more Americans back to work as they actually would benefit from employment.

    Second, it would force the business interests to be responsible and not low ball the illegal immigrant population at the nation’s expense.

    It is the money crowd that has foisted the immigration disaster on the rest of us.

    All the BS about a nation of immigrants and the virtue signaling around the charge of “racism” has been done in service to the one percent.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  141. @lavoisier

    Increasing minimal wage is a vane effort.
    There is an instant response by owners of increased prices.
    So it is parade of stupidity resulting in inflation.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  142. @David Peterson

    comedy central this is eh! hahahahahaha

    one spanish guy crashed america, on a show that I am sure most americans never saw
    back in the day

    this is worthy of George Carlin the comedian: peace be upon him

  143. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    so..increase the wages and establish price controls.
    there would be more purchases anyway until the pent up need is met. in that way even at stable prices there would be more profits
    if you really want to stop inflation:

    1.kill fractional reserve banking
    2.kill allowing the Rothschild/Warburg banks to charge the nation interest on the use of its own
    money
    3.do not allow the banks to tack their financial garbage onto the national debt for the people to pay
    interest on
    4.remove extreme profits from usury. cut down all interest rates to very manageable levels relative to the debtors ability to pay
    5.do not allow the banks owners to give themselves vast loans to buy up the economy. that also is
    creation of money from thin air and is inflationary

    there is more but you get the point. it is a crooked system calculated to rip off the people by the financiers who won the the government. simply take out the crookedness, remove ownership where necessary and let the system work as well as it can. and even then it will work well only for a while

  144. @Ben Sampson

    It would be complicated but it would work. It did work under Trudeau #1

  145. @Anonymous

    There is strong reason to expect that intermarriage and assimilation will eventually lead to the differences between Hispanics, Asians and whites being seen as insignificant as the differences between Scots and Italians today.

    Asians don’t outmarry a lot. It’s a pretty brutal sexual marketplace for Asian men.

    Iberian and Indigenous phenotypes persist throughout Central and South America despite 400 years of living together. Out-marriage with Meso-Americans remains marginal, especially in the US since unlike the Spanish and Portuguese the British brought their wives and kids. There is zero incentive for healthy whites, or healthy blacks, to marry into squatty, low IQ Meso-American families.

    It’s ironic that the goal of Diversity is actually less diversity.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Thomm
    , @Thomm
  146. @Kirt Higdon

    I’ve never seen any advantage to me from living in a country where whites are the majority

    Citizenship in a majority-white country is one of the most highly valued commodities on earth.

  147. Dutch Boy says:
    @M_Young

    Conservative whites have also left the state in massive numbers (including my five siblings and most of their children), bound for Idaho, Arizona, and Nevada.

  148. @The Anti-Gnostic

    DIVERSITY & CLASS-

    The 10% of Latins who own countries are pure white and were wealthy enough to import brides from Spain. It was the poorer Spanish soldiers and sailors who intermarried with Aztecs to beget the Mestizo race.

    You won’t see wealthy whites from the 1% being impregnated by poor black thugs-this is a working poor white thing. Whiggers are generally middle-class or below which is why trailer parks have more whiggers than upscale suburbs where whites tend to be “hipsters” (Or alternative or grunge before that).

    50 years from white will be more identifiable as the elite because so many of the working poor whites will have long intermarried with blacks-or rather been impregnated by vagabond black male thugs-so that the US is a Mulatto favela surrounding small rich elite subdivisions of white (Mostly Jewish and a few WASP) overlords.

    This is not so much racial as simply economic-few black males have any money unless they are OJ Simpson and so the white girls that intermarry with them will end up in poverty.

    Asian male demographics won’t change because they if they are lucky they manage to father one child and spend all their money supporting it. Black males create more kids and have the masculine appeal and big gonads for a greater number of random pregnancies but the reality is that these kids will never get any financial support.

    When a Mestizo marries a white the kid looks like Al Pacino. Basically an Italian. Mexican males rarely have any money though, so we will have a bunch of urchins kicking a soccer ball around on the beaches of Los Angeles like Rio.

  149. Thomm says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    You haven’t seen the recent stats. 30% of Asians and 27% of Hispanics outmarry, but as a large portion of these communities are still foreign-born, the number is set to rise sharply. Among 2nd-gen Asians and Hispanics, 35-40% outmarry (mostly to whites).

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/12/key-facts-about-race-and-marriage-50-years-after-loving-v-virginia/

    The only significant intermarriage that does not involve whites in the US is a) Filipinos and Mexicans, since Filipinos are also ‘Hispanic’ in a cultural sense, and b) Jews marrying Chinese and Indians (for those who strangely classify Jews as non-white).

    The fact is, a bi-racial society can halt intermarriage forever (as the US did for 200 years), but once a third and fourth race enters the picture, the dam breaks since there are far too many points of interaction to clamp down on. Particularly when some of the new races are more prosperous than the native race (women always follow the money).

  150. Thomm says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Plus, 89% of all intermarriage in the US involves a white partner :

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  151. Thomm says:

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/06/the-rise-of-multiracial-and-multiethnic-babies-in-the-u-s/ft_17-06-01_multiracialbabies_map/

    Note that in parts of America that have never had a lot of blacks, interracial mixing (which is almost entirely white-Hispanic or white-Asian) is more common, since there isn’t the tension associated with it that one still sees in black-heavy states.

  152. @Thomm

    Hispanic is a linguistic category, not a racial or sub-racial category. Again, whites and blacks, much less Asians, are not marrying Aztecs.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Thomm
  153. Thomm says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Again, whites and blacks, much less Asians, are not marrying Aztecs.

    Full Aztecs, no.

    But the average Mexican in the US is about 40% white and 60% Aztec. That is safely within the general band of what whites are willing to intermarry with, as per the data I provided.

    The offspring of such a union will be 70% white and 30% Aztec, which will visually not appear too different from the general white population.

    The 2nd-Gen Mexicans in California really don’t look that different from the Sicilian and Calabrese Americans we see in New York and New Jersey. They are much taller than their parents.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  154. Thomm says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I should add that quite a few American men these days are quite willing to settle for what Jeb Bush, the scion of an elite family, did.

    Plus, most white women are quite drawn to the direct, smooth approach of even a working-class Mexican man, given that these women are bombarded with cuckservative or SWPL white men all day long.

    White-Hispanic intermarriage in the US is on the brink of transforming the entire profile of births across America. Recall that a lot of Italian men whitened up their kids by marrying Irish women, as fellow Catholics. Irish women are about to do the same with Mexican/Puerto Rican men now too.

  155. I thoroughly enjoy Unz’s ultra-long form articles.

    But time and again I cannot help but walk away with the impression that he completely elides average differences in populations.

    Basically, there are two kinds of people in this world, Blondie, those who believe peoples are fungible and those who believe they are not. Unless one believes that the human brain managed to escape the selective evolutionary pressures inscribed on every other organ, only the latter is tenable, the only question is a quantitative one, i.e. how different, on average?

    Maybe not much, but emergent properties have a way of being extremely sensitive to initial conditions. And civilization seems like an emergent property.

  156. The article is nonsense.
    Celler and Javitz opened the borders while Paul Ehrlich convinced gullible whites to stop having babies. The entire scam is Jewish, part of the “never again” program to Holocaust-proof the western world. “The Culture of Critique” explains much of it in detail.
    We did not vote to turn our country into mexico. There is massive tribal conflict between the races and this conflict is manufactured and fed by the Jewish owned media and academia. I worked with hispanics for many years and they have historical grievances against whites and in a work situation it always erupts to the detriment of any poor white person that gets caught in the web.
    Unz is wrong about both hispanic welfare use and crime; hispanic crime is much higher than white crime and hispanic welfare use is also much higher per capita. Stefan Molyneux has some great clips regarding these issues.
    The idea that the GOP could have locked in the hispanic vote is absurd. Reagan gave them amnesty and they still vote Democrat. Hispanics vote Democrat because they are marxists and they want free shit that white people have to pay for. It’s that simple.
    Diversity causes a lack of cohesion, lack of cooperation, balkanization, crime, chaos, misery, and civil strife. Not to mention polio, leprosy, malaria, smallpox, MERSA, AIDS, typhus, and incurable TB.
    White people are fucked, and the Jews did it, for the most part. There might be an element of “pathological altruism” on the part of whites, but the demographic tsunami was set in motion by the Jews.
    The idea that whites should just suck it up and marry fat latinas is just stupid and it isn’t going to happen. If you have worked in schools or prisons you have a deeper understanding of these issues than anybody else. Push come to shove people side with their own kind, and at the heart of this is a tiny crew of hyper-ethnocentric paranoids that pretty much run the show and seek to rule over all humanity.
    I don’t think this is going to end well.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @George F. Held
    , @Anonymous
  157. @Bennis Mardens

    Bennis Mardens, you are so right. You got it all in very succinctly. Unz’s articles point out the most obvious flaws in the jewish-owned media’s propaganda, but ultimately he supports the jewish agenda for white genocide.

  158. Delmas says:

    An article shot through with caviling over single-digit statistical advantages and wishful thinking, but whose findings serve implicitly the case for separatism and the founding of a white ethno-state, for the social contract of historical America is no longer there.

  159. @Ben Sampson

    Here is someone who would agree with most of what you say?

    “Importantly for our disaggregated quantity equation, credit creation can be disaggregated, as we can obtain and analyse information about who obtains loans and what use they are put to. Sectoral loan data provide us with information about the direction of purchasing power – something deposit aggregates cannot tell us. By institutional analysis and the use of such disaggregated credit data it can be determined, at least approximately, what share of purchasing power is primarily spent on ‘real’ transactions that are part of GDP and which part is primarily used for financial transactions. Further, transactions contributing to GDP can be divided into ‘productive’ ones that have a lower risk, as they generate income streams to service them (they can thus be referred to as sustainable or productive), and those that do not increase productivity or the stock of goods and services. Data availability is dependant on central bank publication of such data. The identification of transactions that are part of GDP and those that are not is more straight-forward, simply following the NIA rules.”
    P20
    http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/339271/1/Werner_IRFA_QTC_2012.pdf

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  160. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    “…I’m an immigrant from india… I was there during the prop 187 hysteria and my personal experiences tally with what Ron writes- it sunk the GOP in CA for a generation…”

    Basically unless we take more and more and more immigration no matter what rt cost us Whites will be hated and vilified.

    Immigrants to Whites,”Pay us and by the way we hate you”.

  161. Sam J. says:
    @Anonymous

    “… U.S. Citizens do not necessarily want 12-14 million Mexicans to go home, now, after our government has ignored the issue for 30 years…”

    Uhh…yes they do. Every single one. I also want any immigrant that took any government assistance at any time deported. And the “12-14 million” is a huge massive lie. There was a study done by the IRS of illegal and doubled SSN’s and they came up with 30 million. I suspect there’s 40 million illegals in the country. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit. if it were 40 million. I want them all gone. Every last one.

    • Replies: @ziggurat
  162. Sam J. says:
    @Thomm

    I can readily believe this. We know that Ron is likely doing whatever he is doing with this site for the good of the Jews but it’s not readily apparent what that is. You have a good explanation.

  163. I do not understand this deep, driving need to save the Republican Party, one which has been antithetical to the interests of Whites from its inception, i.e. responsible for overseeing the butchery of approximately 750,000 White men in their prime and that doesn’t include the number of White civilians who lost their lives.

    Every single anti-White initiative has continued to be driven by the Republican Party since then. It was the “Party of Lincoln’s” Senators that took great pride in supporting LBJ’s Snivel Rights agenda. Southern Democrats were opposed to it.

    It was Eisenhower who forcibly desegregated the schools.

    It was Nixon who drove Affirmative Action and back the courts with busing. His administration also backed all the block-busting initiatives that destroyed White neighborhoods.

    And where the Nixon Administration really screwed us was when they decided to create a new class of people who were dependent on government benefits. The Hispanics, who had always been designated White (and still are when it comes to crime statistics).

    And the little turd cherry on this shit sundae that the Republicans keep serving up is that it was Reagan who agreed to amnesty “three million” illegal Mexicans the number of whom amnestied soared to anywhere between 12-15 million.

    If the Republican Party is “The White Party,” GOD HELP US!!! For our own preservation, we need to see the Republicans go the way of the Whigs. These “conservatives” have been able to preserve absolutely NOTHING about White America. Karl Rove only made their never-ending attempts to throw us under the bus official. The Republicans and Roverrated are the architects of White Genocide, not the Democrats.

    The Republicans disdain their White Base and never stop trying to curry favor with Non-Whites who will never vote for them. The Democrats don’t care whose votes they get.

    • Agree: Exile
  164. “White America” — is that a reference to the Native Tribes whose land the immigrants took by force?

    How has White America treated those remaining Native peoples?? Federal Reservations? Casinos?

    Who actually physically built White America? How about BLACK SLAVES – who were NOT indentured servants. They were kidnapped from their home countries and brought in CHAINS and forced to serve Masters!

    Who built the White House? The Capitol building? SLAVES … same as who built the homes of Washington, Jefferson, and other presidents!

    The White America is a pretty sad place – and the likes of Trump are making it even worse – for everyone!

    • Troll: RadicalCenter
  165. Dionysus says:

    Raising the federal minimum wage would merely exacerbate the situation. As observed in NYC, substantial increases in the minimum wage result in the expansion of the labor black market. Employers would rather hire an immigrant willing to work for illegally low wages than pay $12 or $15 per hour to a citizen. Many illegals are already paid below their locality’s minimum legal wage for this exact reason
    7 years after this article was written, we got a chance to see the impact of a decrease in the supply of illegal alien labor (due to both political and economic factors) and a tight labor market upon the agricultural and food-processing industries. We saw increases in wages and greater capital investment, particularly in labor-saving technologies (e.g. automation in food processing/packaging facilities) which reduce future need for illegal immigrant labor. In this sense, proclaiming that we need to raise the minimum wage to increase take-home pay, solve the issue of illegal immigration, and eliminate jobs that pay “Sub Saharan African” salaries (to quote the article) is not just incorrect about outcome, but is also confusing cause and effect.

  166. When America ceases to be majority-White, it will cease being America.

    We were never going to vote our way out of this mess.

    Whether or not de-balled Trump wins 2020, he will be the last Republican president. TX and FLA are almost blue.

    When CamelaWh()reA55 becomes president in 2024, the Uniparty and its fake dichotomy will vanish as Republicans finally go extinct.

    After that it’s communists versus everyone else.

  167. Usura says:

    I re-read this recently.

    Let us consider the political implications of these striking results. Since the large-scale presence of non-black non-whites—primarily Hispanic and Asian immigrant groups—does not seem to produce much white political cohesion along racial lines, the continued growth of these populations can hardly represent a potential boon for the Republican Party. Meanwhile, harsh Republican rhetoric or policies that target these groups would naturally tend to drive them into the arms of the Democrats. Under such a scenario, the GOP loses millions of non-white votes without gaining any white votes in exchange, resulting in political disaster.

    The 2016 election seems clear evidence that is prediction, and the associated analysis, was false.

  168. @David Peterson

    ‘…I’ve had enough already. I am officially resigning from the White Race.’

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  169. Dr. Doom says:

    We’ll see. After the necessary war that has now come.

    Demographics can be changed overnight with an army and a leader of political will.

    Those that wish the downfall of whites will be disappointed.

    They have been chosen by a Higher Power than some weird cult from the desert.

    The White Man will reach space. The others can let nature nurture what is left of them.

  170. We are being overrun and subtle means are not going to be enough.

    We need to split up America, after that we can do Greg Johnson’s slow cleanse.

    PS It is dishonest to write a lengthy essay on race in American and not use the word Jew or a variant.

  171. ziggurat says:
    @Sam J.

    We should start another “Operation Wet Back”, which was Eisenhower’s successful deportation program that resulted in more than a million illegal immigrants getting deported in 4 months.

    Here is a good article on “Operation Wetback

    Then on June 17, 1954, what was called “Operation Wetback” began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

    By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

    https://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

    If we can deport a million illegal immigrants in 4 months, then that would be 3 million per year. So, in 8 years, this would would be 24 million deported. Nearly all the “smart” people says it’s impossible to deport them all, but it seems possible to me.

    “Some say we cannot send 12 million illegals now in the United States back where they came from. Of course we can!” Edwards says.

    Donald Coppock, who headed the Patrol from 1960 to 1973, says that if Swing and Ike were still running immigration enforcement, “they’d be on top of this in a minute.”

    • Replies: @Chonk
  172. neutral says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    will be endangering his newly-won Honorary Aryan status.

    No such thing, the jew will always be the number one enemy of white people, nothing will ever change that.

  173. GMC says:

    Before te 1965 Open and UNLIMITED immigration law change – only 700,000 people were allowed to immigrate per year . Without dissecting these anti American changes – immigration talk is – just the tip of the Ice Berg that the US populace – Hit.

  174. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @M_Young

    “Frankly, I want my ancestors to look something like me, and given current immigration trends, they will look something closer to Benito Juarez.”

    You mean you want your descendants to look like you.

  175. Tucker says:
    @Sean Scallon

    “The real power behind the Ron Paul campaign is the creation of a Republican Party which can transcend such racial identity by focusing on a single idea of “freedom”, which as Dr. Paul says, “brings us together” Now maybe it’s naive to think this way, but at least it is an alternative than having one’s politics resemble those of South Africa.”

    What have you been smoking lately? In poll after poll, large majorities of Hispanics and blacks and Asians say they strongly support severe restrictions on the 1st Amendment right to free speech (translate this to mean: passing hate speech laws that can be used to restrict the speech rights of Whites who protest the White Race replacement agenda and by default, the White Genocide Agenda and ‘End of White America’ that Unz shows he looks forward to) and these same non-white minority groups are also fully on board with the DemoNrat Party’s totalitarian anti-Second Amendment, gun ban, gun control agenda. In addition, these non-white minority groups love the idea of ‘Open Borders’ – because they all want to import – via chain immigration – every member of their family tree, and also be able to accept bribes from non-family members in the third world who are willing to pay them to claim they are family members, so they can move into America and then jump right onto the White tax payer subsidized gravy train.

    Ron Paul has a number of issues that espouse positions that I agree with, but the guy is a typical goofy, Utopia dreaming Libertarian – and if he or anyone else thinks for a single second that the love of freedom is shared equally by all races on this planet – then they are proving how uneducated they are with regards to world history. White Europeans – historically – have been the one and only race who have prioritized the kinds of freedoms that our 100 percent White European Founding Fathers enshrined in the Constitution and Bill of Rights – and once non-whites are allowed to assume the dominant and majority ruling populations of the USA – those sacred freedoms are going to be drastically curtailed or outright abolished.

    Laws that prohibit White men from owning firearms will be one of the first new laws that a minority controlled USA will enact. Along with ‘hate speech’ laws that can be used to arrest and imprison any White man (or woman) who protests what their new minority rulers are doing to
    America.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @George F. Held
  176. Ugetit says:

    Immigration, Republicans, and the End of White America

    The sources of America’s immigration problems

    You wanna know sources? Here you go.

    All this lent a specific significance to the earlier Congressional pronouncement (1924), denying the right of “any foreign group” to “dictate the character of our legislation”. Among the president’s “advisers” many were of foreign birth or in effect became “foreign” by their devotion to Zionism or their attitude towards the world-revolution and world-government. In this sense a “foreign group”, embodying the mass-immigration of the preceding hundred years, formed itself around the American president and “steered” the course of events. The twelve years which followed showed that any “advice” acted on by the president must have been to the benefit of the destructive principle in its three interrelated forms: Communism, Zionism, world-government.

    -Douglas Reed, “the Controversy of Zion,” p (written ~1955 but unable to be published until 1978) https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

    Romanoff names names. Surprise! Many sociopaths and crackpots from Eastern Europe.

    The Pleasures of Depopulating the Earth
    LARRY ROMANOFF

    The horse has long been out of the barn; good luck closing the door now.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @Es35
  177. If we don’t return to a white protestant America will your grandfather have a cross burned in his backyard if he converts from Methodism to Catholicism?

    Prolly not.

    Look, all whites are the same and they all have the same ideas, and values as all other whites, look at Jack Kemp and Pat Buchanan (Is that reference obscure enough?)

    The whites lamenting the disappearing white America know that the laws and praxis of white politicians are responsible for that situation but blaming the jews is mo’fun.

    • Replies: @neutral
  178. onebornfree says: • Website

    “But perhaps the obvious escape from this seemingly inescapable political trap is as simple as merely reversing the direction of cause and effect. Consider the consequences of a very substantial rise in the national minimum wage”

    Oh.My. Gawd!

    Yet another Unz article proposing “simple” government solutions to problems caused directly by government itself, laboriously written by an individual who , like most here and elsewhere, naively assumes [with zero evidence to back his/her assumption], that government “solutions” actually work in the real world, when the evidence pointing towards the exact opposite conclusion is all around them, staring them all right in their face[s], day in and day out, for every day of their lives.

    [MORE]

    This “just” in:

    There are no government solutions that work, for any social, economic, or any other problem in this world. Never have been, never will be. GOVERNMENT “SOLUTIONS” NEVER WORK!

    Governments create problems [via laws, programs etc], then offer their “one size fits all” scam “solution” , enforced on everyone at the point of a gun.

    And of course, that brand- new government scam “solution” never works either, but instead creates even worse problems, to which the brain-dead/brainwashed masses all inevitably respond to with a collective, “we need more government, to fix this “new” problem.!”

    It’s always merely another case of the blind leading the blind with the latest , “can’t fail”, “pie in the sky”, “pigs can fly” , government “solution”.

    And so it goes, “for ever and ever, amen”. 🙁 .

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    The real answer to the massive social problems created by governments via minimum wage laws, welfare programs, immigration restrictions etc. etc. etc. is to entirely get rid of all of these programs and the parasitic politicians and agencies that run/live off of them, as well as getting rid of many others too, [ all of which are entirely unconstitutional in the first place – just in case anyone out there really cares about that minor detail anymore],

    Ron, please read the great Harry Browne’s: “Why Government Doesn’t Work” [pdf available here]:
    https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn%27t_Work

    Harry Browne on immigration specifically. [excerpt]:

    “…. trying to limit immigration is an admission that the welfare state is a failure………A free and prosperous society has no fear of anyone entering it. But a welfare state is scared to death of every poor person who tries to get in and every rich person who tries to get out. ”

    From: The Immigration Scam: http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-immigration-scam-by-harry-browne.html

    “Regards”, onebornfree

  179. Tlotsi says:
    @Kirt Higdon

    Minimum wage is already $10 in a lot of states.

  180. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @jb

    Good points. He’s spinning an obvious lie.

    Jews can be best described as anti-white so that’s a different story but every flavour of Gentile white can integrate and contribute in a white country. Here in Europe, every nation’s population used to be a mixture of whites from all over the continent and it was capable of prosperity and high-trust, common cause unity. The only exceptions were small brown gypsy tribes which, predictably, couldn’t integrate in a thousand years. Race matters.

    Now, Europe has a multitude of metastasising brown/black ghettos and no-go zones filled with foreign, hostile invaders who couldn’t assimilate even if they wanted to. We haven’t seen anything like it since the muslim invasions of the past. Luckily, they’re too obvious and abrasive so the’re no way that the jews will be able to stop us from reversing the clusterfuck in time.

    That’s why Ron’s “advice” to white Americans is so pernicious. His narrative is that Mexicans are not that bad which makes them a harmless replacement for whites. Laughable. He’s selling a slow-acting poison as a tonic.

    • Agree: Emily
  181. Exile says:

    The vastly negative response Ron’s most recent article received speaks for itself. His anti-White-identity signalling and appeal to civic nationalism was outdated in 2000, well-outdated in 2010-2011 when he wrote these immigration pieces in 2010-2011 and obviously divorced from reality on the streets in 2020.

    The death of civic nationalist color-blind America neatly coincided with the implementation and institutionalization of the racial and immigration policies of the 1960’s including the civil rights act of 1964 and Hart-Celler of 1965.

    90%+ of America sees this connection, from a pro or anti-White perspective.

    The ever-dwindling majority of civic nationalists like Ron, isolated in their ivory towers and hazed with hopium, may refuse to see it but those of us proles at ground level don’t have the luxury.

    Ron, if we could somehow live together in harmony, it would have happened by now. Race and ethnicity are real and fundamental to our psyche. You’ve had almost 60 years to prove us wrong. The evidence is in the streets and in media all around you.

    If all this “can’t we all get along” wish-casting is genuine, you’ve bought into a view of human nature and a vision of happiness that’s tragically wrong-headed, impossible and bound to lead to nothing but more misery for all tribes involved.

    Clinging to the failed polices of a fading generation is making us all miserable, White and non-White alike. We need some separation, not more coerced kumbaya.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Anonymous
  182. I no longer read any of our humble hosts articles on immigration, crime, or race. I’m well aware going in that they are nothing more than overly verbose, leftist, propaganda pieces. The comments tell me all I need to know…
    Mr Unz can dazzle us with all the statistics he wants however…
    Anyone who’s head isn’t in the sand can see with their own two eyes that mass 3rd world immigration has been a fiscal, social, political and cultural disaster period!
    Zero upside, all downside!
    Whites already had our hands full with the “white mans burden.” Now it’s the white mans burden on two fronts.
    If either blacks or Hispanics become the dominant demographic and obtain the reigns of power they will look out for their own, and force their culture, beliefs, ideology, down our collective throats.
    Neither group wants to be “American.” Neither group wants to live in a diverse, multicultural, multiracial, multiethnic dystopia. They merely espouse those platitudes because it benefits them politically right now. As soon as either obtains political dominance, all pretenses to this will immediately come to an abrupt end. Egalitarianism is strictly a white, European ideal.
    If blacks win, the Hispanics will be pissed off, and vice versa. They will not become a homogenous cultural, political, or social voting block! They are only currently part of “the coalition of the fringes” because the Democrat party is all they’ve got. Nothing more than a temporary alliance for political expediency while they have minority status.
    If Mr Unz gets his wish, and whites become the demographic minority, the country will only become more balkanized than it is now.
    Of course Mr Unz is not at all worried, because whichever demographic gains control Jews will be pulling the strings behind the scenes. Money, media, the institutions, Jews control them all.
    blacks “small b”, and Hispanics however are NOT self loathing, white people! So good luck with that.
    I also believe Mr Unz takes great pleasure in trolling his readers, most of whom as any astute reader of the comments can asertain, are hard right leaning, and at a minimum, anti mass immigration.

    • Agree: Emily, nature
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @GMC
  183. Liza says:
    @Tucker

    In addition, these non-white minority groups love the idea of ‘Open Borders’ – because they all want to import – via chain immigration – every member of their family tree, and also be able to accept bribes from non-family members in the third world who are willing to pay them to claim they are family members, so they can move into America and then jump right onto the White tax payer subsidized gravy train.

    Surely even the dullest immigrant can see that with millions of nonwhites coming here to partake of the endless stream of goodies, it won’t take long before the train runs out of gravy. (Actually, it already has, but the government is good at kicking the can down the road.) What, oh what will they do – outside of claw at each other over the remnants of the carcass once known as America.

  184. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bennis Mardens

    You say, “Hispanics vote Democrat because they are marxists and they want free shit that white people have to pay for,” and true enough, but I believe the main reason they vote Democrat, given they know nothing about our government beyond handouts, is to express their hatred of whites. They are quite stupid and determined enough to believe the degenerate, impoverishing culture they fled from can be superimposed on ours without economic disaster.

    I have a place in Florida where a nearby, older retirement development has been taken over by fairly successful Mestizos, and the crime rates in all categories over there are fully 4 times what they are where I am, which is saying something even if my area is still mostly older, white retirees. I don’t believe for one second that the crime rates among Hispanic immigrants are similar to those among any white populations.

    You’ll see Lexus SUVs and $50k pick up trucks over there pulled right up to the front door. The principal of a nearby middle school with a predominant Hispanic student body says they’re savages, and unlike white schools, there needs to be a permanent police presence to avoid gang violence and drug dealing on what had been a pristine school campus. I doubt it’s any different in California.

  185. @Tucker

    You are absolutely right about Ron Paul. . . well-intentioned but foolish. White nationalism is the only thing that could have saved the USA . . . for both blacks and whites. With the Hispanic inundation the country is done for, over. That Ron Unz supports Hispanic immigration proves that, like most Jews, he does not have our best interests at heart. Cf.
    You Gentiles by Maurice Samuels (Pub 1924)

    From Chapter 9: We The Destroyers

    “If anything, you must learn (and are learning) to dislike and fear the modern and “assimilated” Jew more than you did the old Jew, for he is more dangerous to you. At least the old Jew kept apart from you, was easily recognizable as an individual, is the bearer of the dreaded Jewish world-idea: you were afraid of him and loathed him. But to a large extent he was insulated. But as the Jew assimilates, acquires your languages, cultivates a certain intimacy, penetrates into your life, begins to handle your instruments, you are aware that his nature, once confined safely to his own life, now threatens yours. You are aware of a new and more than disconcerting character at work in the world you have built and are building up, a character which crosses your intentions and thwarts your personality. . . .
    We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build. Beyond all temporary alliances with this or that faction lies the ultimate split in nature and destiny, the enmity between the Game and God. But those of us who fail to understand that truth will always be found in alliance with your rebellious factions, until disillusionment comes. The wretched fate which scattered us through your midst has thrust this unwelcome role upon us.”
    https://educate-yourself.org/cn/We-the-Destroyers-Chapter9-You-Gentiles-Pub1924.shtml

    • Thanks: Richard B
    • Replies: @Ugetit
  186. geokat62 says:
    @Exile

    Race and ethnicity are real and fundamental to our psyche.

    So true. Sages of the past were well aware of this truism…

    “You may drive out nature with a pitchfork, yet she’ll be constantly running back.” – Horace

    We need to remove the pitchfork from their hands. I’m tired of all their Tikkun olaming.

    • Agree: Exile
  187. KenR says:

    A main point of Ron’s is that Hispanics make good neighbors. They make good citizens, and a particular point Ron makes repeatedly is that they do rather well on the crime statistics. I find that such arguments do contain an amount of comfort but still they really miss the point.

    Let me postulate that my town has become widely settled by Pokemon. Now, Pokemon make great neighbors. Not only are they low-crime, they are crime fighters! They pay taxes, maintain their lawns, they are industrious and they make great employees and great employers. Yet I find myself living on a street dominated by Pokemon in a town dominated by Pokemon, in a society that’s largely swung to a Pokemon society. Whatever that is, it isn’t mine, it is not ‘of my people’, it is a totally foreign culture. Do I want to live like that? Raise my kid in a the new Pokemon-hybrid nation?

    And let me make another point. We have experienced the great baby boom of the Boomers, followed by a birth dearth. I maintain that is in fact part of the natural rhythms in the lifecycle of a people. This is however a horrorshow for the artificial financial and economic constructs we have built. All the Nanny State ponzis as well as all the assumptions of Wall Street and our financial class have a built-in expectation of always continual growth and expanding markets and workforces. That’s a serious mistake. It’s not realistic and we’re left with this ‘extend and pretend’ mentality of kicking the financial can down the road and debt financed bubbles one after another trying to keep all these plates spinning in the air. It’s ruinous in the long term, but this is the path we’ve been on economically for a generation now.

    Immigration is stop-gap relief valve that serves to keep these impossible constructs going a little longer. The correct thing, and the necessary thing, and I dare say the UNAVOIDABLE, EVENTUAL thing, is when all those plates kept spinning the air come crashing down. We are only making our Day of Reckoning far worse by continually putting it off.

    But what is worse, and this is the real kicker and the really DAMNABLE thing, is we are destroying the nation for our children. We are adulterating their birthright and heritage by swamping the land with foreigners. In this fashion we do a couple of very, very evil things. First, we rob them of the benefits of being a ‘birth dearth’ generation. There are many good benefits of being in such a position. Real wages and real opportunities are higher in birth dearth than in a baby boom. They are being robbed of this by wage competition from >1 million new legal immigrants per year (not counting the illegals). Second, we are short-circuiting that ‘natural lifecycle of a nation’ that I spoke of earlier. Baby booms beget birth dearths which beget baby booms which beget birth dearths … et cetera. When you artificially swamp a land of birth dearths with millions of foreigners to make up for the lack of human capital, you very well may succeed in permanently destroying that nation or at least hobbling it for generations upon generations. At the very least, you’ve changed it permanently and in a harmful way.

    Migration-invasions are very bad things. It is actually better to lose a major war or two (ask Germany) than it is to suffer a migration-invasion. And such things are very insidious. People can tell when an army marches across the border that they are under attack. But not so when you replace that army with millions of women and children. Very insidious!

    • Agree: Emily, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
  188. Saggy says: • Website

    I know without reading the article that Unz will not address the central issue, and that is the mental inferiority of 3rd world immigrants.

    If I’m wrong, point me to the relevant section of the paper.

    If I’m right, the entire article is only good for lining the bottom of my birdcage.

    (note: when I read the title I thought Unz had had some sort of epiphany, and I was looking forward to reading the article, but no …. )

    • Replies: @Biff
  189. Anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s the crib notes:

    1. Unlimited mass immigration = good

    2. White people that don’t want to be surrounded by people that can’t speak English = bad

    • Thanks: Saggy
  190. geokat62 says:
    @VinnyVette

    Great post, VV.

    Just had one observation to make regarding this statement:

    Egalitarianism is strictly a white, European ideal.

    Egalitarianism is not a white, European ideal. It is Big Lie #2 propagated by members of the Frankfurt School who realized they needed a replacement to Big Lie #1 – self interest can be suppressed in favour of class interest – when communism failed. In short, egalitarianism is the successor to communism. Over 100 million were sacrificed to the alter of communism. How many will be sacrificed to the alter of egalitarianism?

    • Thanks: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  191. Your description of Hawaii:

    Yet although the local Republican Party has generally skewed toward the 25 percent of the population that is white, while the Democrats have been more popular among the majority Asians, the state’s reputation has overwhelmingly been one of easygoing race relations, a high degree of intermarriage, and a complete lack of vicious political conflict. Ideologically, Hawaii’s white minority seems to think and vote much more like the racially liberal residents of 95 percent white Vermont than as members of a racially polarized minority bloc, locked in endless political struggle with its non-white opponents.

    bears no relation to the reality on the ground, as several White friends who were either born and raised or lived there for many years, have related it to me.

    They all agree that the racial divisions in Hawaii are as toxic as anywhere in the country. The politics are race driven. It’s also more of a one party state than any other in the country and that party is of course the Democrat. The legislature comprises racial blocs and caucuses. Nothing can be done without relying on an ever-shifting set of racial alliances. Because European descendants have a very weak plurality (about 25% of voters) they have a slight political advantage here but it only exists when choices are to be made among prog policy options. The bureaucracy and civil service are divided up into racial fiefdoms in order to preserve order, e.g. Filipinos comprise a large majority within certain public employment sectors; a non-Filipino seeking to enter one of these is at a serious disadvantage, even more so when it comes to advancement within those sectors.

    In other words, Hawaii like California is proof that multiculturalism will erode the cultural, societal, political and, economic character of what was once the USA and further diminish the quality of life for most of its citizenry.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  192. Ugetit says:
    @George F. Held

    Thank you for mentioning Samuels. By coincidence, I was just re-reading this.:

    Once again, the words recall Mr. Maurice Samuel’s lament or menace (whichever was intended) of 1924, “We Jews, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever”. Only in the incitement of others, Mr. Levine appears to say, could he, the “stranger”, feel himself “included”, or “his problem” engulfed. The incitement of the unreasoning, stupid “mob” is the theme that runs through the “Protocols” of 1905. In the passage quoted Mr. Levine seemed to imply that he could only feel involvement in general mankind when so inciting a mob.

    -Douglas Reed, “the Controversy of Zion,” p 483

    https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

    The pages just preceding that quote are very well worth a read and are extremely timely, describing the admissions of the Red agitator, Mr. Meyer Levine .

  193. Emily says:

    Let in the third world and you become the third world.
    Violence, poverty and anti white racism.
    The filth, human excrement, drugs and degradation of the third world slums are in the cities of the west – led by the USA.
    The US, Britain and Europe are now irrevocably on that path.
    We are being bred out of our own nations.
    Here in Britain they have cancelled the 2021 census – the first census thus, since something like 1841.
    Brits must not know the truth of the vast numbers of the now tens of millions, not least islamics who have invaded and occupied us with their 100,000s of fully trained jihadis up and down the country waiting to strike – so many our intel services openly state they have lost the ability to watch them.
    France, the same – Sweden too.
    Terror will strike when they are ready – right across western Europe in the islamic version of St Bartholomew’s Eve.
    The slaughter will be horrendous.
    We can surrender peacefully or fight.
    Fight?
    The USA is full of guns and big mouths – I’ll believe them fighting when I see it.
    Blow hards most of them.
    The Bundy resistance has long gone.
    Europe is facing islamic takeover and the Caliphate.
    Not so many guns but maybe a bit!! more resistance.
    Maybe!
    The neo liberal brainashed woman will don the required enslaving black bin bag garb of the burka with the same enthusiaam as they cover their faces with soiled nappies today.
    They will relish it.
    Of course Russia – the hope of world – was never damn fool enough to let them pour in.
    And they showed the necessary determination when rebellion was tried in the caucasus – funded by the USA by the way
    Russia the last white christian country.
    I trust they won’t be fool enough to allow in the mass millions of white refugees who are very likely to seek Russian refuge.
    The Americans, Brits and Europeans have handed their countries away.
    Let them in and they will give Russia away as well.
    These psychotic, brainashed liberals are so devoid of rational thought, common sense and any survival instinct, they are as lemmings going over the cliff.
    Its the best place for them – they are the greatest destructive force in our civilisation.
    The traitors within – threatening our very survival.
    If they need a helping hand to jump- I’d say give a shove ot two – its about our best hope.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  194. neutral says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    but blaming the jews is mo’fun.

    You can prove your point by showing how the jews were NOT central to the following:
    – The creation of the US central bank
    – Starting hostilities against the Third Reich
    – Hollywood
    – The civil rights movement
    – The 1965 immigration act

    All of these things could in no way come about without the endless jewish agitation and funding. So yes, the jews really are to blame.

    • Agree: VinnyVette, Robert Dolan
  195. GMC says:
    @VinnyVette

    Ya I agree but the latinos Will over take what they call norte’ Americano. Their Kids speak 2 to 3 langauges already, and if they can get rid of the gangs, and deal with Zionist, then America Will live on. Immigration was going good until the N Y jews lobbied for open and unlimited flood Gates – 1965. Good post V V

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  196. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Allowing the government to interfere in bargaining between employers and employees was and is a tragic mistake, particularly for (would-be) employees.
    There was virtually none at the time Ford raised his factory workers’ daily wage to $5.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  197. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @KenR

    when all those plates kept spinning the air come crashing down

    Uh, yeah …

  198. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Exile

    If all this “can’t we all get along” wish-casting is genuine, you’ve bought into a view of human nature and a vision of happiness that’s tragically wrong-headed, impossible and bound to lead to nothing but more misery for all tribes involved.

    I don’t believe it’s genuine. Even if the brown/black migrants in the US were completely friendly (lol) he’s well aware that the average IQ in the country is dropping which makes it less competitive. Officially, China already has a 7 IQ advantage over the US and no magic negroes and jews gestating in undeserved positions at all levels. They are deservedly overtaking the West at breakneck speed and nothing will be able to stop them.

    Except maybe a nuclear war.

    Common “wisdom” is that the Democrats hate Russia and the Republicans hate China but the truth is that the jews in charge of the West hate them both. They were counting on a (((One World Government))) by now in which the uncompetitiveness and disunity among the goyim cattle was seen as desirable – since there’d be no competition in that environment – but ended up riding an increasingly lame and uncooperative mule into the race.

    War is coming.

    • Agree: neutral
  199. Chonk says:
    @ziggurat

    But at what rate can we realistically deport immigrants at this point in time?
    Is it more or less than during the Eishower administration? Do our increased technological assets offset the pervasive open borders/leftist sentiments circulating in America that would likely impede efficacy of deportation?

    • Replies: @ziggurat
  200. @geokat62

    Egalitarianism is a product of enlightenment thinking, “all men are created equal” for example. I won’t disagree the Jews have taken it to absurd levels in foisting it upon foolish whites.

  201. Zman made reference to Ron’s take on immigration and he mentioned accurately that Ron does a false frame that says because hispanic crime isn’t so bad we should love them, and if you don’t love them you’re a mean racist.

    And then he says fuck that, why can’t we just come out and say we don’t want them here?

    It’s our country after all.

    This is 100% righteous and true.

    And the hispanics supposed low crime stats can never offset the fact that the greasy hateful fat fucks vote left 80% of the time. That’s the main problem.

    Imagine a world where you have a zillion fat assed AOC’s and Kamala Harris’s bleating through megaphones all day screeching “RAYCISS I HATE YOU WHITE PEOPLE JUST KILL YOURSELVES OR WE’LL DO IT FOR YOU!”

    That’s our world now.

  202. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Emily

    Here in Britain they have cancelled the 2021 census – the first census thus, since something like 1841.

    Wow! But, but Ron told me that the white normies don’t care about the invasion… (/sarc)

  203. In Washington, no white in his right mind goes into black Anacostia while in Chirilagua, an Hispanic region in suburban Virginia, whites walk and dine with, so far as I no, exactly zero problem. My daughter Emily lives in a nearby Latino region, zero problems. In Chicago, I have encountered a friendly reception in Pilsen, a recently Hispanic region, and in Berwyn, a mostly Mexican middle class region. zero problems. In black Chicago, I wouldnot have come out alive. In LA, hours of walking in East LA, seldom seeing a white face. Zero problems. Hispanics are not blacks. White Nationalist, whose knowledge of other groups seems to come almost entirely from palapting statistic, will probably neve figure thisout.

    • Agree: Tor597
    • Troll: neutral
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Tor597
  204. @Rossbach

    white people are the only american people. half of america’s white population are fully content with being exterminated. the other half of america’s white population has yet to realize they are destined to become extinct without immediate, ruthless action.

    “whoever wants victory should start attacking first.” – adolph hitler

    “those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.” – adolph hitler

  205. @GMC

    I’ll agree that the Latino’s will be the lesser of the two evils. However let’s take LaRaza as an example. You think they want to play nice with whites?

  206. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    So, all those places are as safe as Mexico?

    Right?

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @Tor597
  207. Having worked low paying jobs to put myself through college, I’m all for the high minimum wage. There is nothing like scraping by while watching a company blow money on golf retreats, lavish Christmas parties, executive bonuses, strip club trips and bar tabs for clients, sports tickets, t-shirts and goodies for anyone who walks through the door, and then being told after excellent performance reviews that even an extra $.25 per hour is out of the question, when your pay is already low. And this was an above entry-level manufacturing position at a company that made ground support equipment for major airlines, NATO, U.S. and foreign governments. I don’t know if the company is unionized now, but it wasn’t then. It was obvious to anyone that the money for an extra $2 per day was available, and the same arguments against a reasonable pay raise would have been used then as now.

    I’m all for improving the economy across the board, and believe that substantial improvements for middle and lower income earners would not harm the economy. However, the nation is more than an economy.

    I’d go for paying people to leave, as long as immigration is shut off and life would be made very difficult for new immigrants or any who try to return. I still don’t accept the arbitrary change in demographics and culture that was forced on America.

    If politics is competition by different means, then it is obvious that Hispanics are competing with Whites, and the presence of large numbers of Hispanics does change the nation. It’s odd that Whites would be demonized for not wanting demographic change, but there is sympathy for Hispanics who resent Whites who vote against demographic replacement. Funny how that works!

  208. Ugetit says:
    @Jett Rucker

    Allowing the government to interfere in bargaining between employers and employees was and is a tragic mistake, particularly for (would-be) employees.

    And goyim employers, but I’m certain it was no mistake. Guess who was at the head of many unions? Who benefitted when goy shops and businesses went under? Reminds me of who loses in this COVID farce. Then there’s this.:

    What the New Deal did for labor was to pass a series of laws the purpose of which was to give organized labor the advantage in its bargaining with the employer…They delivered to organized labor a legal monopoly of the labor supply; they caused unionism to become in fact compulsory, and they made it possible for unions to practice intimidation, coercion, and violence with complete immunity

    But there was at the same time an indirect subsidy to organized labor…The effect was to keep eight or ten million men off the labor market, where their competition for jobs would have been bound to break the wage structure. Thus union labor’s monopoly of the labor supply was protected. Both the subsidies to agriculture and those to labor came out of the United States Treasury, and since the money had to be borrowed by the government and added to the public debt, you would hardly say the solution was either perfect or permanent. But from the point of view of revolutionary technic that did not matter provided certain other and more important ends were gained. … One would be the precedent of making the Federal government divider of the national income; another would be to make both the farmer and the union wage earner dependent upon the government—the farmer for his income and union labor for its power. Neither the farmer who takes income from the government nor the union wage earner who accepts from the government a grant of power is thereafter free.

    -Garet Garrett, The People’s Pottage, The Revolution Was,
    https://cdn.mises.org/Peoples%20Pottage_2.pdf

  209. @Greg

    “restricted legal immigration that seeks only English-speaking Canadians, Australians, and Europeans.”

    Please don’t forget the South Africans!

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  210. Hank T says:

    Jews like Unz do not get to have a say in our immigration policy.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  211. Ragno says:
    @Matt

    Either Unz or myself misunderstands the Sailer Strategy. My impression was that it was not about making the Republicans the white party so much as making the Democrats the black party.

    Precisely.

    Ron Unz’s recent spasm of penitent-lashing notwithstanding, there is no earthly reason why the US should collapse under the weight of a mere 13% of the population.

    Once upon a time, the craftiest 2% of our population tricked the nation into playing blindfolded in traffic via the presto-chango of Proportional Representation, in which everything from local school boards, to corporate directors, to Congress itself was viewed to be illegitimate unless they Looked Like America (altered their makeup to accomodate a 13% representation of blacks, along with similar AA remodels on behalf of Latins, Asians, Jews, men-in-dresses, etc). Meritocracy, we were instructed, was simply a scam by which the power remained firmly under white Anglo-Saxon Protestant control.

    But then a funny thing happened. Jews streamed in to all the corridors and sinecures of power; and, having gotten a taste of that power, weren’t about to voluntarily step down to ensure that their representation did not exceed their allotted 2% – and suddenly, “meritocracy” became a Greater Good once more (so long as it did not benefit white gentiles). Assuming whatever whites remaining in those corridors have not themselves been completely deracinated – a tall order, I know – the first order of business should be ensuring that our institutions indeed Look Like America….particularly taking safeguards that said 2% remains at 2%. (What safeguards can be taken to keep that 2% from acting as overseers to the other 98 is a discussion for another day.)

  212. Mefobills says:

    But after several years of bitter internal conflict, this anti-immigrationist faction lost out almost completely to the pro-immigrationist camp, which was backed by the powerful business lobby. As a result, the Republican Party mantra became one of embracing “diversity” rather than resisting it and focused on increasing the Republican share of the growing non-white vote. Former President George W. Bush, strategist Karl Rove, and Sen. John McCain have been the most prominent advocates of this perspective

    And then Ron fails to draw the proper economic conclusion.

    The pro-immigrationist camp is big business, and international finance capital. They want low cost labor, so their ownership class maintains it status.

    If you are running a Kleptocracy, then it requires a lot of hypnosis to dupe the population. Some of the mantras are, immigration is good, multiculturalism is our strength, black lives matter.

    If you object to wage slavery, and the destruction of your history, over-running of your borders, and deracination then subjugation, then you are a raaacist.

    Finance international capital is the new form of Feudalism, where serfs pay their life energy to support debt instruments and finance paper.

    Finance is something like what Matt Taibi says about Goldman Sachs, a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.”

    So, as long as finance capitalism exists, as long as people are hypnotized to believe that money and prices are the only thing that matters – then the hoaxing and propaganda will continue unabated. Mammon wins. People worship the money more than their history, borders, culture, and race.

    The money power is the main vector, the point of attack and causative variable. Everything else, especially including immigration, is a knock on effect.

    Our (((friends))) are especially pernicious creditors, who use their international capital to fund their in-group activities. This is why our (((friends))) tend to be Kleptocrats who then fund a Kritarchy and change narrative through an owned press, to make things copacetic and good for the tribe, even if it is bad for everybody else.

    http://www.soverignmoney.eu

    Only the King should issue his public credit.

    • Replies: @frontier
  213. @Jus' Sayin'...

    ‘… Because European descendants have a very weak plurality (about 25% of voters) they have a slight political advantage here but it only exists when choices are to be made among prog policy options…’

    Actually, from what I saw when I lived there, whites have very little political power — certainly very little as a cohesive group serving their own interests. The Japanese portion of the population is probably the most powerful.

    It’s really an incredibly corrupt, inefficient, witless mess with no coherent ideology that is at all related to the facts on the ground. Best just to accept it, though, or you’ll lose your mind. Hawaii is kind of a nation unto itself. It has its points.

  214. @Hank T

    jews have the final say over our immigration policy because jewish money is what fuels politics.

    And I’ll respond to Fred Who Worships Hispanics Because He Married One, again, I do not give a flying fuck if you consider it “safe” to walk in an hispanic neighborhood……the MAIN problem is their well established leftist voting pattern.

    The main REASON the jews brought them in is because the hispanics vote LEFT.

    The GOAL is to outbreed and OUTVOTE whites.

    And basically the jews won. It’s a done deal. The demographic disaster is headed our way. Like dominoes, each state will turn blue due to mass immigration, and whites will be totally and utterly dispossessed……a people without a home.

    Those nice jews simply switched places with us.

  215. anon[382] • Disclaimer says:

    Unz reveals his nose lately

    like all jews, he’s not one of us and never was

    • Troll: Jus' Sayin'...
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  216. neutral says:
    @Anonymous

    It gets gorier than that, there are videos of cartel members decapitating live people with chainsaws. They make ISIS methods of execution look wimpish in comparison.

  217. Mefobills says:
    @james charles

    I’m fond of Werner, and he is right in that hypothecations by private banks if limited, will probably work. It has worked for brief periods of time.

    We can look to history, and see that what he advocates for eventually fails.

    It especially failed in Canada in 1971.

    The private banks further down in the system were limited in loans (hypothecations) they could make, to thus keep them from harming the economy. This worked well from 38-71.

    BIS was able to overturn the sovereign-like state bank system of Canada in 1971, by using bribery of parliamentarians, and emitting false narrative.

    So, the lesson is that Werner , while being a monetary historian, is ignoring monetary history.

    Werner is also not a race realist, so he has blind spots in his world view. Germany’s tiered public private banking system is his model.

    Germany is not the rest of the world, it is populated by Germans. Germans tend toward an honor culture, and are not like other people-groups. They tend to do the right thing when nobody is looking.

    The bottom line is that money was invented in the Temple Cults, and was issued by the palace authority. The palace and the sovereign were merged in those days.

    For thousands of years, the palace authority could release debts with a jubilee, as debts always grow mathematically, and against nature.

    Any sort of privatized money creation process cannot release usurious debts. Exponentials are usurious by their nature.

    There is no way to square this circle by allowing private hypothecations. Werner chooses to not square the circle.

    The money power belongs firmly in the law, and only the law can deal with exponential debts.

    Grabbing Creditors who become psychopaths; creditors who want to credit the word unto themselves are a real problem that occurs cyclically throughout monetary history, as sure as the sun comes up every day. Jesus especially worked against this creditor class as represented by the Pharisees of that day.

    Today, those grabbing creditors (finance plutocracy) can only be smashed by nationalizing the banking system, and wiping out their bond holdings and unearned debt claims on society.

    • Agree: nature
  218. Tor597 says:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    I agree with Fred.

    If we are to carve out some of the problematic low IQ groups that are known for trouble, shouldn’t we send back or block Irish and Italian immigrants from coming to America in addition to Latinos as many white nationalists want to do?

    People used to say the same thing about Italians and the Irish as they are now saying about hispanics but it looks like these lower iq whites did just fine.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  219. Tor597 says:
    @Anonymous

    I can easily show you white countries like Ukraine or Eastern Europe that look as bad.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  220. https://www.news18.com/news/world/215-bodies-found-in-mass-graves-in-mexico-deceased-identified-and-handed-over-to-families-2679557.html

    Do a search for “Mass graves in mexico” and you’ll get a million hits…..49 in mass grave, 67 in mass grave, 215 found in mass grave, 39 in mass grave decapitated, etc.etc.etc.

    Mass graves all over that nice country of mexico. Mass graves literally everywhere.

    And nobody in America knows because the Jmedia covers it up.

    The Jmedia also promotes all kinds of shows to try to get stupid old white people to leave the USA and move to some third world “paradise.” The shows always focus on how cheap the houses are, shots of the beach, etc., but they never mention crime rates, the fact that some cartel runs the entire town, that recently the cartels shot every living soul at the local dance club, wiped out entire families, 35 innocent people shot in the street when caught in the middle of a gang war, etc.

    Lady friend of mine was beaten half to death just outside a resort hotel in mexico. She had asked some nice mexican if he could take her picture…..then her friends found her wandering around incoherent, bloody, and beaten. The mexican took her purse, her camera, and smashed her face.
    She’s spent a fortune on surgeries and she’s still not right.

    Viva La Raza!

  221. @mpresley

    The Latin Americans should at least give us affirmative action race tribunals like Brazil. No more affirmative action for White Hispanics or Valerie Jarrett Octoroon types. That would be hilarious. Also, make Asians White too. That’s what you get for voting Democrat. Finally, I want to see affirmative action in the NBA.

    Don’t forget, Latin Americans in Latin America seem to love Whites. Just look their telenovelas or google image Mexican Congress.

    • Replies: @Jean
  222. Mefobills says:
    @Tor597

    I can easily show you white countries like Ukraine or Eastern Europe that look as bad

    I can easily point to plagues and mass death events that happened to Europeans in history.

    They bounced back from a smaller population base because they were all Europeans. They did not loose their history, culture and lands because they were not race replaced.

    Becoming de-racinated because “capital” wants low wages short circuits evolution, and as such is an affront to God.

    The same goes for any people group – they can bounce back provided they keep their nationality and race. Nobody is making excuses that somehow Japanese should be displaced from their ancestral lands. It is the true rulers of the west, the finance class, that is making all of these easily disproved false claims.

    Ukraine, East Europe, and basically the entire Soviet Union were isolated and protected from pernicious effects of finance capital and the liberalism it promotes.

    Japan ran a secret sovereign-like money system post WW2 up until Plaza Accords. Werner discusses this in his video, The Princes of the Yen.

    Credit Guidance Windows meant that private banks were guided from above by the Polity. Capital channeled in accordance to the dictates of their civilization and not greedy hidden financiers.

    Japan sure as hell did not need guest workers or immigration to become super efficient.

    • Replies: @Tor597
  223. @David

    Agree. But America, at least by its current borders, is gone and lost forever. If you’re White with an IQ above 100, have as many kids as practical, point them in the right direction, and take any steps possible to lay the groundwork for a future Anglo America. Think something like Switzerland, but Anglo and Constitutional, carved out of the Mountain States. It may take decades, or even centuries, but it’s more realistic than kicking out half the population (I’m including Sh-tlibs) and more hopeful than becoming another semi-functioning and corrupt Latin American country but with colder weather.

  224. Jean says:

    Poor Ron Unz, spent his entire life nursing his grievances against those who surpass him in every way.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  225. @Tor597

    Italians and Irish are NOT “low IQ,” at 100.

    mexicans are what? 80/85?

    Look at the murder rates in Italy/Ireland compared to the murder rates in mexico.

    Friend of mine runs an executive protection service, has a fleet of armored Escalades, and a crew of ex-military. Execs from all over the world use his services and he specializes in service to mexico.
    Execs are especially afraid of being kidnapped and held for ransom and they pay big money for protection because mexico is so dangerous. I can’t share too much without doxing my friend, but he has some very hairy stories. The police in mexico are just as bad as the criminals, and in some cases the police ARE the criminals.

    Don’t kid yourself about mexico and mexicans. They bring mexico with them and it’s not a good thing.

    • Replies: @Tor597
    , @anon
  226. Jean says:

    The world laughs at you Ron

  227. frontier says:
    @Mefobills

    Your name reminds me of someone on Zerohedge, one of the very few people that made some impression on me. I agree with your assessment in general, and I’d like to point out that your link is probably misspelled. After a correction, it landed me here:

    https://sovereignmoney.site/

    We need abstracts of Ron’s articles, as a rule they’re quite long, with lots of other material included, I just don’t have the time to read them. This specific article isn’t worth the effort though, when you see something like this:

    The notion that masses of non-white immigrants, legal or not, will turn our cities into violent battlefields or support ethnic separatist movements which shatter national unity are total absurdities, and the people who believe such claims are fools. And as we have seen above from the accumulated voting data of the last couple of decades, after a brief transition period, whites and non-white immigrant groups seem to coexist perfectly well

    Whites always “coexist perfectly well” with other groups but ONLY when whites are the majority AND in power AND allowed to self-segragte. Just writing the full truth of the matter makes the article kind of pointless because this isn’t the situation we’re facing.

    • Agree: Mefobills
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  228. Jean says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    Given that Latin Americans took the nazis in, it was a Mexican that ice picked Jewish communist, Leon Trotsky, I think that hostility by all mankind ought to be excused, justified in fact. Hoist them by their own petard.

  229. Miro23 says:

    Late last year New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof sounded the alarm that America might soon reach the extremes of wealth and poverty found in the notoriously polarized societies of Argentina and the “banana republics” of Latin America, then needed to retract that claim when he discovered that we had already long since passed most of those countries in that regard. And in a widely discussed Vanity Fair article, Economics Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz characterized today’s America as being a country “Of the One Percent, By the One Percent, and For the One Percent.”

    This is the way the Third World works. Countries are run for the benefit of tiny elites who hold all the keys to power. And these elites feel no responsibility for the wellbeing of the general public and in fact often despise them. This is ZioGlob USA 2020.

    … what Paul Krugman has characterized as a system of permanent “debt peonage” or what Warren Buffett has similarly described as a “sharecropper’s society.” As a result, nearly a quarter of American households have zero to negative net worth, and a single unexpected illness or economic setback can push them to the brink of destitution.

    And is the rioting about this? No, it’s elite white middle class children breaking up the symbols of what is left of their society (if only they knew it).

    It is perhaps not entirely coincidental that this 40 year period of economic stagnation for most Americans coincides exactly with 40 years of rapidly rising immigration levels. After all, the concept that a huge influx of eager workers would tend to benefit Capital at the expense of Labor is hardly astonishing, nor does it require years of academic research into the intricacies of economic theory.

    Simple really. Bigger profits and another way to kick those deplorables and hopefully exclude them permanently.

    A little over a century ago, Henry Ford took the bold step of doubling the regular wages of his assembly-line workers to the then remarkable sum of $5 per day, thereby achieving international fame as well as enormous business success for his own company. According to most accounts, this event was a crucial factor in creating the prosperous middle class that eventually dominated America’s 20th-century history…

    These days, times have changed. But perhaps a similarly bold step, which similarly raises the income of America’s working class and similarly crosses many ideological lines, would help safeguard and maintain the national prosperity that men like Ford originally created.

    A very strange idea. Ford was feeding spending power into the world’s premier industrial economy. Doing the same today is pointless. There aren’t any factory workers and all the basic products the public will buy are made in Asia.

    What the US desperately needs is the termination of its elite, and get itself a true nationalist government dedicated to the wellbeing and development of all US citizens – although even here it’s mission impossible as the required unity sank with mass immigration and multiculturalism.

    Realistically the only place to find US unity would be locally at county or state level – Which implies the end of the present United States and (at best) a Confederation of self funding (own banks/media/education) semi-independent states maybe issuing their own currencies and debt.

    This is “fading Washington” rather than “fighting Washington”.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  230. @hbd chick

    Ron Unz makes many good points, but his ideological wishful thinking shows through.

  231. @James

    To add to your point, we already have data on 3rd and fourth generation Hispanics (Mestizos) and they do not achieve at the White level. Even if Ron’s crime data is correct, they still underperform, produce less wealth and are more likely to use public assistance. (Ellis Island immigrants achieved parity within a generation).

    That’s the irony of Mestizo immigration. We import them to replace the working class Whites that have dropped out of the labor force, but after a generation or two they’re just like working class Whites…so we need to import more.

    I do slightly disagree on two points:
    1) Mestizos are Western. They speak a Western language (from Rome!) and pray to a Western god (more or less). Ethnically they’re Western, just not Anglo

    2) from studies I’ve seen, I believe the real Mestizo IQ – when raised in the US with the educational and nutritional benefits that follow – to be in the low to mid 90s. Ie approximately half way between Whites and Blacks. Of course, their behavior is White/Mongol, so they’re more like Whites than Blacks of the same IQ. They also don’t resent Whites quite as much as Blacks do (not saying they don’t resent Whites).

    We need to shift the conversation to nationalism. All people deserve self rule. As I told an old sh-tlib college friend: I’m a nationalist; a Black nationalist; a Mexican nationalist; and even an Anglo American/White nationalist.

    That’s why I love the Jew troll: “open borders for Israel”

  232. C\ says:

    Ford doubled wages to attract the highest skilled and most dedicated white male workers to operate a pioneering idea (the assembly line and automobile). The scheme was a success.

    Lets talk about his experiment with rubber tree plantations in south america and how they went if we want a rounded perspective.

  233. I enjoy reading UR for (often, but not always) nontrivial opinions, but somehow no-one here makes the following obvious observation:

    – USA needs to have and maintain the biggest economy in the world. Their economic superiority is central not only to their self-image, but also to the role the country plays in world’s economy and the whole current world order;

    – For the lack of a better measure, GDP is the parameter universally used to assess the size of a country’s economy. GDP is a product of GDP per capita and the population size. In most developed countries, GDP per capita is in the $50-70K range, from Denmark to Singapore.

    – New immigrants quickly become part of country’s economy, and although their contribution to GDP is smaller than average in the first years after immigration, eventually it rises close to average. Thus, simply put, GDP of developed countries is proportional to the size of their population.

    – GDP-wise, the biggest competitor of USA is China, with purchasing power parity (PPP) GDP of $25.3 trillion, which is 20% bigger than $20.4 trillion in the USA. China’s population of 1.4 bln is so huge compared to USA (328 mln), that USA will have to take China down by necessity. They have to do it very soon, or risk losing everything and becoming a 3d world country.

    – The next biggest competitor of USA is EU, with the nominal GDP around $18.3 trillion, PPP GDP of $20.9 trillion, which is somewhat bigger than USA, and the population of 446 mln. Unlike China, EU can’t be taken down by the USA, and needs to be competed head-to-head.

    – EU has the following advantages that USA lack: 1) several low-income member countries (former Eastern block) with relatively high-IQ population, which can be lifted from poverty to EU average by massive investments; 2) the potential to expand further, absorbing several more former-USSR countries, such as Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Armenia, etc. (and why not Russia itself?..).

    – To counter the threat of EU becoming the world-dominant economy, USA must keep increasing its population faster than EU. Unfortunately for USA, there is no mass immigration from Europe any more, so the country has to accept lower-quality immigration from Latin America and elsewhere.

    – Since population increase is central to USA survival as the world’s predominant power (which is pretty much equivalent to USA’s surviving as a country), they have to maintain the current level of immigration, if not expanding it greatly. This is so no matter who is in the WH, and whether this person is Black, White, Jew or Martian.

    – Since the USA elite understands the state of affairs very well, this will be done, for sure.

    – The rest is lyrics.

    Frankly, am tired of reading here the speculations of how Latino immigration is good (bad) for the USA, and whether Black lives matter indeed, or it’s all just a Jewish conspiracy.

    Grow up! It’s the economy, stupid.

    And yeah, am a Russian troll.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  234. There is a disconnect here. Mr. Unz makes good sense and does not excoriate the jews even once.

  235. @JonF

    “By “non-white” I think the author (and others who make this comment about past immigrants) really means that those immigrants were considered “people not like us” and often “people inferior to us” by Americans whose families were well-established here. Not a matter of skin color or putative race a such.”

    Exactly. All this “race” talk is a relatively new phenomenon. Americans of my generation freely characterized various European ethnics as dagos, hunkies, polacks, etc., etc. while our indigenous natives were indians and blacks were just another ethnic group. What has prevented the latter two groups from assimilating after hundreds of years, while the others became fully Americanized in a generation?

  236. Ron Unz again tried to drop some common sense on to us, preaching to the choir.
    I admire his grit, but there are obvious (((religious))) and (((ideological reasons))) why the measures he proposes will never be realized by the current elites.

    Just for example, the kikes in the porno industry ALWAYS lose money when pushing cuck and interracial porn. But they do it anyway. Or even funding antifa. Pure destruction whose payoff has been delayed for almost a century.

    They are not looking for pure profits. They want complete domination for mankind in a sick, kosher world.

  237. Es35 says:
    @Ugetit

    Reading ‘The Controversy of Zion’ is the literary equivalent of putting on ‘They Live’ sunglasses.

    The scales fall from your eyes and you understand clearly the nature of the enemy.

    The book is available, for free, right here on Unz Review.

    • Agree: Richard B, Ugetit
    • Replies: @Richard B
  238. Unz your reasoning and graphs are baloney. Here is all you need to know:

    PEW Research: Hispanics favor a government that helps people 3 to 1.

    Here’s the math Unz, Mr data… that’s three votes for the Democrats and one for the Bush Republican.
    John McCain agreed with you completely. Viva La Raza in other words… and he lost the Latino vote in a landslide.

    Asians? Maybe but they are good at playin the diversity game too as long as they are on the diversity list… however they are increasingly not.

    Did you see that video of the Google programmer, Asian male who discussed how the diversity programs did not include someone like him (an Asian male) didn’t like it!!!

    And Unz.. WTF do you think people who walk across the border are going to vote for?

    And even if they didn’t like AOC… they aren’t voting for a pro immigration advocate like you… AOC says that Latinos are owed reparations too..

    And you think that won’t play well with LA RAZA?

    Thank you for free speech and this website but your ideas and writing are a crock of shit on this subject….

    Yeah as Rove says… look we’ve let in so many Latinos we can’t win anymore… No shit Sherlock..

  239. Anonymous[361] • Disclaimer says:

    Mr UNZ is pedantic academic FOOL…he thinks that numbers, statistics, and multipolar equation explains the reality today of in years to come. Many countries had absorbed waves of IMMIGRATION such as Canada, NZealand, Austrlia, Iceland etc. Yet those countries do not experience the high levels of racial balkanization and open ghettoslization of their main urban centers why not? Mainly because they have a MERIT base immigration-temporary-permanent LABOR visas- with a calculated, calendarized, bench marks for voluntary and even compulsory indexes time tables for those that decide to become lets say Canadian CITIZENS. This curiously has never been an option in the USA why not?…Simply because DEM open border advocates want the cheap LABOR and the last thing they want is a LEGAL immigrant with a labor visa-permit that can and will demand their constituiocnal LABOR rights for example minimum wages, housing, health education etc. WHY is it that behemoth agro corporations do not employ PRicans? Guam,.? White SAfricans? merely because they will demand their basic fundamental human-labor rights..Consequently terms such as Citizenship, assimilation, language, etc. are uttrely meaningless to open border democrats liberals and their main donors-JEWS- whom still see the non jewish anglo whites as their MORTAL enemy , hence anything and everything that lessens WHITES demographically, politically, culturally is good for the jewish power agenda. Mr Unz quickly dismisses any claims of ghettolization within the Mexican communities..which in my opinion is a case that must be studied on itsown isolated from other NON Mexican immigrants,,,obviously because of the share 5K mile border between USA-Mexico and its troubled shared history. The Mexican govt and its elites as well as Mexicans in the USA are NO fools they know the huge LEVERAGE that large non assimilated spanish monolingual poor uneducated ULTRA chuvinistic nationalists fanatical population can give them …specially over teh BORDER states like Califonia that it alone commands more than 2o electoral college votes…WHITES can NOT WIN creating majority whites state, areas is racists, in fact majority white electoral districts in majority white areas are racists and according to the ACLU unconstitutional. Whites CAN but lack the will to reverse the demographic trends-like Japan- they dont have a white Nationalist PAC, institute, academic think tank, national LOBBY…none of that is ever posssible for whites,whom may not realized yet they are politically DEAD. Balcks will lose more since they will become marginalzed within the DEM pliical machine a usuful urban terrorists proxies to cow whites liberals, conservatives into silence. Mr UNZ is a fool…I remember a white waspy young man that graduated from college,volunteerin teh inner, wento to join the PeaceCorps and one day he was arrested in LA and put in jail….after being beaten, raped, and sodomized by the NON whites he discovered q that he was WHITE. The issue of immigration is the existncial issue for the USA…and we must decide IF it will be ONE America or a globalized mecca of everything…which sound like a feverish FOOLISH NIGHTMARE.

    • Agree: Stonewall Jackson
  240. Anon[151] • Disclaimer says:

    Hi Ron, I really enjoi yer essays, although I think your views on Hispanic crime and violence are asinine as evidenced by Sinaloa and MS-13. I’m writing to ask if you would consider partitioning the articles from the comments? Yo, it’s kinda hard to load on an old phone.

  241. Richard B says:
    @Es35

    The book is available, for free, right here on Unz Review.

    The best refutation of a Ron Unz article is Ron Unz’s website.

  242. Anonymous[361] • Disclaimer says:

    there is no WHITES conservative party they are BOTH owned by the AIPAC. A nd they are both subservient to their agenda.. Blacks had been here since 1400s,ASIANS and other NON mexicans assimilate quickly.do not have a border to cross and call it their country, Indians are very dark skinned and yet very succesful, why?….Most illegal mexicans remain easily maniplated by the mexican govt and its professional activists cadre in the USA…monolingual, ultra nationalits and yes MEXICAN SUPREMACISTS that hate blacks and other latinos NON mexicans…

  243. Mefobills says:
    @frontier

    Your name reminds me of someone on Zerohedge, one of the very few people that made some impression on me.

    That was me, I haven’t changed my handle. I don’t post on ZH any more…. too many Brietbart types whose brainwashing is too great to overcome.

    People at UNZ tend to be a higher IQ cohort, who have clear eyes and are able to see through BS.

    Sorry about the misspelling.

    • Thanks: frontier
  244. JT says: • Website

    Since you’re reposting old material, I’ll repost my comment to what I consider your last disaster of an article.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-bankruptcy-of-american-white-nationalism/?showcomments#comment-4065988

  245. JT says:

    David Cole’s insight into the Latino question is more apposite than Ron’s. Cole, a Kosher Jew, a Kosher White who doesn’t deny either.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/rise-of-the-crypto-caucasians/

    Unz is confused. If you’re drumming up tortilla votes Trump’s way, the way to go about it isn’t by belittling Gringos. If you’re going to talk about Chicano utility, then at least have the decency to admit that choosing Seattle, the biggest Latino run city in America, is flawed.

    As I pointed out in my comment to Ron’s previous article, which for its length was cut off the comments page and requires readers to click through to get to the gist, Seattle is 50% POC, 40% Nahuatl lettuce pickers.

    My characterization of Portland exposes a Jewish, self-hating White, LGTB coalition.

    I think Ron was driving at something all together different. Just his Jewish knack for being passive aggressive got the better of him. A perpetual mea culpa as well.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Mr. XYZ
  246. Mefobills says:
    @Miro23

    This is the way the Third World works. Countries are run for the benefit of tiny elites who hold all the keys to power. And these elites feel no responsibility for the wellbeing of the general public and in fact often despise them. This is ZioGlob USA 20

    The tiny elite fraction in the third world are a Comprador elite.

    Comprador’s are created by the finance class out of Wall Street and London.

    Perkin’s book, “Confession’s of an ecnoomic hitman” describe how private speculative finance, including that of the IMF, is used to host a country with debt means. The credit created by the debt channels through the comprador elite.

    Everytime there is a planned Peso collapse, Compradors are given advance notice to escape to dollars or another “safe” currency. They then return to the local economy with increased purchasing power, to then buy up and dispossess natives from their historical lands.

    Sound familiar?

    The natives of course, don’t have the mental digits to understand how they are being enslaved.

    That these compradors are white people is interesting, because when you dig further and find their true masters, they (the masters) are found in wall street and london, and are over-represented by the usual tribe (((suspects))). Compradors are shabby goyim.

    So sorry if real monetary history is inconvenient to Ron’s narrative. The immigration of third world people is push-pull.

    They are escaping their finance comprador elite (jewish method) and are drawn to El Norte (jewish method).

    The comprador elite do not look like their population, in the same was that Jewish elite in the ruling Finance class, do not look like their population.

    The King has to have feeling for, and look like his subjects.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  247. Tor597 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Richard Lynn has pegged Irish IQ at 87 which to which there was many many anecdotal evidence to back this up.

    Over time the Irish raised their IQ, so there is no reason to think that Mexicans can’t do the same.

    Also, crime is relative to the wealth of a nation. If you hollow out the Euro economy the same way the US did to Mexico there will be a comparable increase in crime.

    By the way,all Euro countries are much more violent than Asian countries. So bebefore you label someone as subhuman, look at your own fucked up culture first.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @BloodSpirit
  248. Mefobills says:
    @romanempire

    New immigrants quickly become part of country’s economy, and although their contribution to GDP is smaller than average in the first years after immigration, eventually it rises close to average. Thus, simply put, GDP of developed countries is proportional to the size of their population.

    They consume what they produce eventually.

    In the beginning they consume more than they produce by cost shifting onto the middle class.

    The only winners are the “owner class” who gets cheap labor.

    There is no economic argument for immigration, it is a net negative.

    If you think about the non-monetized part of the economy, which is the volunteer sector, then the loss of social cohesion is an enormous loss not calculated or not even codified in economic thinking.

    Loss of history, borders, culture, and then creating a low trust civilization has a knock on effect to the economy, but it cannot be easily calculated.

    Immigration is all bad and full stop. Immigration cut-off in 1926 was to create a “new american man” who was predominantly European. The cut-off was overturned in 1965 by the usual (((suspects))).

    https://cis.org/Report/Immigration-and-American-Worker

    • Agree: ThreeCranes
  249. Tor597 says:
    @Mefobills

    Japan is not invading the world, nor are its own companies choosing to import immigrants to boost its economy.

    So why would Japan have to emulate the errors of the west?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  250. Robjil says:

    End of Zion America and Zion World is the only thing only holding back humanity from advancement.

    End of European “white” America is a Zion joke.

    Zion America thinks it can replace people when when they are tired of them.

    Like the saying from Obama Zion puppet – Yes, We (Zion) can.

    Zion America will get tired of any people except itself.

    In the end, these replacements will be gone too.

    Zion world only wants Zionists in its world.

    It is a Zion world after all.

  251. Ron Unz says:
    @JT

    If you’re going to talk about Chicano utility, then at least have the decency to admit that choosing Seattle, the biggest Latino run city in America, is flawed.

    As I pointed out in my comment to Ron’s previous article, which for its length was cut off the comments page and requires readers to click through to get to the gist, Seattle is 50% POC, 40% Nahuatl lettuce pickers.

    Well, I have the impression that you’re some sort of very confused foreigner. Otherwise I’d think you were totally delusional.

    As I pointed out in that article, these days America’s large cities are overwhelmingly non-white, with whites averaging only about 1/3 of the urban populations. However, Seattle is a notable exception, being one of the most overwhelmingly white major cities in the US. If you just check the Census data, you’ll see Seattle is about 65% white and only 7% Hispanic.

    Or maybe you’re just living in a different universe than the rest of us…

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  252. @anon

    Unz reveals his nose lately / like all jews, he’s not one of us and never was

    This is nasty, stupid, and outrageous slander. Mr. Unz provides one of the few fora where otherwise taboo topics, including the undue influence of wealthy and prominent Jews, can be broached without fear of censorship or retribution. Although many of those contributing to this blog disagree with him on some issues, the vast majority are grateful for the work he has done promoting free speech.

    Besides calling you out as a troll, I want to take this opportunity to personally thank Mr. Unz for the expenditure of time and effort he has put into maintaining this site as a beleagured bastion of free expression surviving amid an encroaching tide of totalitarian ideologies, bigotry, intolerance, censorship, and other threats to freedom such as doxing.

    • Agree: Charles, Katrinka
    • Replies: @Charles
  253. Mefobills says:
    @Tor597

    So why would Japan have to emulate the errors of the west?

    They shouldn’t, and if they do, they will be committing suicide. Maybe I didn’t phrase it well enough?

    The usual suspects, especially (((Stanley Fischer))) while he was at IMF was behind the BOJ attack on the Japanese population during the 80’s, where they ran a bubble to get rid of MITI control. The credit window guidance system was destroyed. Japan lost money sovereignty… sort of.

    Japan has to fight to not be forced into the errors of the West.

    Abenomics, if you look closely at it, it is the buying up of former bubble debts from the 80’s, and then transferring them. They tend to end up in Japan’s postal bank, where any interest accrued goes to Japanese house-wives, and then into the economy.

    I’m saying Japan needs to NOT immigrate, and continue to have a polity that cares about its people.

    When BOJ ran its gambit against the population, that would be emulating the errors of the west. Perhaps they were forced… no way to know for sure. Given the IMF and Stanley Fischer and being read the riot act at Plaza Accord, I think they were forced.

  254. Mr. XYZ says:
    @JT

    As I pointed out in my comment to Ron’s previous article, which for its length was cut off the comments page and requires readers to click through to get to the gist, Seattle is 50% POC, 40% Nahuatl lettuce pickers.

    Are you sure that you’re not thinking of Yakima instead?

  255. Mr. XYZ says:
    @RadicalCenter

    This is because “german” and “French” and “Swedish” citizens are increasingly likely to be Muslim, African or Arab, or both.

    TBF, though, I don’t think that very many Muslim, African, and/or Arab Europeans are actually going to want to move to Eastern Europe even if they could. After all, are the welfare benefits in Eastern Europe as generous as they are in Western Europe?

  256. Elite Jewish extremists in the United States Congress and in powerful organizations created and passed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, designed to extremely change the demographics in the United States, it’s been very successful. Before they initiated the Act, the United States was close to 90% White people.

    In 1965, an immigration bill arrived that Jewish groups could support. The Hart-Cellar Act sought to dismantle the quota system in place since 1924 and finally opened the doors to Asian, African and Middle Eastern populations.

  257. Anonymous[710] • Disclaimer says:
    @mpresley

    I’ve seen zero evidence that blacks see the end of white America leading to the end of black America.

    People give the black intellect much more credit than it deserves.

    • Replies: @anon
  258. Anonymous[710] • Disclaimer says:
    @Scott

    This either the opinion of an idiot or a non-white..

  259. ziggurat says:
    @Chonk

    But at what rate can we realistically deport immigrants at this point in time? Is it more or less than during the Eishower administration? Do our increased technological assets offset the pervasive open borders/leftist sentiments circulating in America that would likely impede efficacy of deportation?

    Good question. The short answer is we could do it faster than Eisenhower, provided the political will exists. The long answer is below.

    Currently, the preponderance of political will is opposed to deportation.

    Eisenhower recognized the political challenge and addressed it.

    Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing’s close connections to the president shielded him – and the Border Patrol – from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.

    One of Swing’s first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections with people such as Senator Johnson would have no effect.

    https://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

    So, to get the preponderance of will, we just need a higher percentage of savvy politicians (in key places, such as the White House and Congress) who favor deportation.

    In order to get a higher percentage of aforementioned politicians, the American people need to understand that deportation is easy, as long as there is a will to do it.

    This is why the MSM constantly tell us that it’s absurd and impossible to deport millions of illegal immigrants. If we believe it’s impossible, then we won’t demand it.

    This is why it’s important to let everyone know about “Operation Wet Back”. At Brietbart, they will censor your post if you mention the operation. Ostensibly, it’s because “wet back” is offensive. In reality, it’s because “Operation Wet Back” was effective. To get around the censors, I purposefully mis-spell it as “weB back”.

    Here’s a great scorecard that people can use to gauge the political will of our Congressman in the House and Senate:
    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/my/tools/grades/list/0/RECENT/US/A/Grade/Active

  260. Mefobills says:
    @Ron Unz

    However, Seattle is a notable exception, being one of the most overwhelmingly white major cities in the US. If you just check the Census data, you’ll see Seattle is about 65% white and only 7% Hispanic.

    Seattle proves that whites can be easily duped and brainwashed. HBD theorists have long noted the pathological altruism of whites. Unz is a HBD site is it not?

    If you combine this pathological altruism with 24×7 propaganda promoting self-hatred and liberalism, then you get Seattle and other confused whites.

    By way of comparison, there are many all-white cities in other civilizations, that do not have the pathologies present in Seattle and like shit-lib cities. There are even anti-white whites marching for BLM in Scotland and Ireland. Why is that?

    The better argument is to ask why is it that Seattle, and other white-liberal cities act out contrary to their interests? What sort of massive brain washing is operative?

    With regards to Hispanics, the better model is Tejano’s in Texas vs Californios. Tejanos were consolidating as Americans; they were land owning, and had their own unique music and culture. They tended to not do crime, as they were owners participating in the economy.

    Immigration from the third world is actually destroying Tejano culture. Californios by contrast are not land owning, and many have devolved into black gang culture.

  261. anon[172] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    the end of white america?

    I will not read a word of this humungous report. it is a bloody distraction, totally pointless in the face of looming mandatory vaccinations..the military and Big Pharma in combination forcing vaccinations on the people.

  262. @Tor597

    Fuck you.

    mexicans aren’t going to be “raising their IQ” anytime soon.

    Your politics is driven by a personality disorder.

    IQ/crime isn’t the main problem anyway.

    The main problem is the jews engineered massive third world immigration to screw white people out of the country they built.

    But as a hate filled anti-white bigot POS you are totally on board with the jews’ plan.

    So, fuck you again.

    • Agree: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Tor597
  263. @Mefobills

    “The King has to have feeling for, and look like his subjects.”

    Originally, the King was the body of his people. He was the people incarnate and as such, mediated their relation with God or gods. To claim that he was God incarnate was a perversion of this, an inversion.

    • Agree: Mefobills
  264. anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    that’s right! leave the world alone and it will take care of itself

    if the Zionist deep state left the world alone to develop in its various cultures as the people want and see fit, their people will stay home and live not, migrate..especially to cold countries.

    and in cold countries right now they are migrants are running straight into the Covid vaccination wall..which threatens them with sterilization and far far worse

    this migration issue is distraction..not fundamental at all. the vaccination issue is crucial, basic….for all the marbles

  265. Mefobills says:

    Free market nostrums decriminalize every type of financial appropriation. Corporatism privatizes everything, basic utilities etc., in order to take rents and unearned income. Toll booths are erected everywhere making access to life expensive.

    Public banking or public money, would not make loans for corporate takeovers. It would not make loans for anti-social purposes, such as corporate raiding, and corporate buy backs. Public money would only make loans to people who can pay, not those who cannot pay in order to foreclose on property.

    The American system of economy, which was dismantled, had public hospitals where the indigent could go to get care. This public option for medical lowered the access price for medical care, and thus the American price of labor.

    The American System of economy (a form of industrial capitalism) also made sure the public colleges were low priced, providing an upward ladder into the middle class.

    The parallels to today are Rome 63BC to 44BC, and also Weimar Republic 1919-1933. In 44BC Caesar was assassinated, and Roman Senate was as corrupt as the U.S. Congress. Rome Senate refused any debt relief, refused any housing relief, any land relief. They were under sway of the Creditor class or were themselves creditors. The voting system was owned by the richest 10% who were given voting power that was larger than the lower classes. The citizenry at large was subordinated, and the only way out was armed resistance.

    Basically, if you have a subordinated population, they are going to look for the cause of their distress. A really clever finance class of creditors, will use bait and switch techniques to divert the mobs wrath.

    What me? I made all my money honestly, and I am a perpetual (((victim))). Your real enemy is the Mexicans or the Blacks, or White people. This sort of mentality is not explicitly Jewish, although Jews have elevated it to an art form, hence the Roman example as a counterpoint.

    It took armed resistance for Rome to overcome the Creditor Class, and for Weimar it took Mustache Man.

    • Replies: @ANZ
  266. Biff says:
    @Saggy

    If I’m right, the entire article is only good for lining the bottom of my birdcage.

    So you are a bird, and equipped with a ‘bird brain’.

    Daffey is that you?

  267. ANZ says:
    @Mefobills

    Thank you for pointing to parallel historical examples. We are awash in lies, propaganda and misdirection. It can be extremely bewildering to listen to this or that pundit spewing this or that contradictory explanation for why thing are as they are. Hindsight is 20/20 and we can see much more clearly into the past as opposed to the present. Then the correct view of the past can better explain our present. History is always repeating; there is little new under the sun.

    The bedrock of understanding world events and politics must come through economics. Always follow the money because it doesn’t lie. Most propaganda is a smokescreen for money interest. If you understand the money, you understand the game. You can then see and cut through bullshit. Hence I find your insight into the history of Econ so useful.

    ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY!

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  268. geokat62 says:

    ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY!

    Since we’re living in Yuri Slezkine’s extended Jewish Century, this needs to be restated as…

    ALWAYS FOLLOW THE SHEKELS!

  269. Mefobills says:
    @ANZ

    History is always repeating; there is little new under the sun.

    Yep. It is maybe not repeating exactly, but it is rhyming almost perfectly. Rhyming and repeating is cyclical.

    The Western way of thinking is that history is linear. It is always upward onward and better. The ancients thought in terms of cycles. One of the major cycles is that debts mount at a mathematical rate, and outside of nature. Ergo, without some sort of cyclical release, then things will tend toward war or disorder.

    When commodity prices are low, and M3 is low, that is a time of distress and disorder, as debts are claiming the circulating money medium. This event happens with regularity.

    Much of what is wrong today, is what is in between people’s ears. That is why pundits don’t know what they are talking about…. they are baffled with BS they have heard since birth, and simply pass it on, pretending they know what they are talking about. They don’t know anything else.

    Some of them actually believe what they say, but when you trip them with their contradictions, they get mad, or fling ad-hominems.

    You will notice in my comment history, that I tell people if they fling ad-hominems, they have already lost. It is proof that their world view is full of contradictions and cannot stand up to scrutiny.

    Since Mustache Man cannot be talked about, then we cannot investigate what NSDAP Germany did to get out of their mess. The example of NSDAP is exactly relevant to what is going on today in the Western World.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  270. @Jean

    Who are you referring to and how have they surpassed him?

    Having checked your 30 UR comments over 5 years or so I am fascinated by your air or pose of certainty, combined oddly with some surely careless (rather than a n ignorant) errors when you apply BC to what should clearly be AD dates

    As the medieval Christian message seems to be at the core of your Weltanschaung may I ask how you can believe in the existence of an Abrahamic Creator God who, on every version, is believed to care for our welfare and how we behave yet, despite numerous communications to his creatures failed to ensure they got the right advice and instruction? Consider, above all perhaps, how it is possible such a loving Creator could leave billions of Hindus, Buddhists and Animists uninstructed in what you would have us believe is the most important truth.

  271. Charles says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    I too, regardless of R. Unz’s ethnic make-up, am grateful he not only started and maintains this site, but has digitally housed many works which are now either prohibitively expensive or simply cannot be found ANYWHERE, be it a physical copy or a PDF. I also realize that for many commenters here the following is disagreeable, but…for me, the constant “Jews are Satan” is a bit absurd. I don’t have the time or patience to harp on the subject, but in the real every-day world, I would not feel threatened by a large group of people who I knew to be Jews. But I do, as a matter of common sense, avoid any and all large groups of blacks.

  272. @Mefobills

    Then talk about Gottfried Feder, Hjalmar Schacht and others. I’ll listen.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  273. @David Peterson

    Your resignation from the White race is to be applauded, because racial metaphysics of whatever stripe is a dead end. With a combined population of Latinos, Blacks and Asians at a hefty 35%, this talk about White America seems quite disingenuous, if deluded, to say the least. And this coming from a Jewish writer, is all the more bizarre. A White America has never really existed, save for White power, which still remains intact. A more inclusive America would be the way to go.

  274. Tor597 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    lol

    I see white people aren’t going to be raising their IQ soon either.

    I do enjoy seeing you get triggered to easily though. Just remember that this is only the 2nd inning of what will be a very bad century for you.

    So remember to pace yourself friend.

  275. anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Most Italian-Americans are high achievers but look at the corruption and extortion in New Jersey. Right up to the governor.

    Look at the number of homicides. The car bombings. The occasional killing of a police officer (Usually a corrupt one who was selling information to the mafia).

    And that is just a bunch of overweight middle aged men numbering 100.

    Now imagined 100,000 members of Mexican cartels. So you have to multiply the problems the Italian mafia created in New Jersey by 1000 times.

    Italian kids never destroyed school systems and most of them discouraged the selling of drugs which is the economy the cartels stand on.

    Nonetheless, the Italians did a whole bunch of damage to the unions. Stealing pensions to build casinos and then killing union leaders who objected.

    Nancy Pelosi’s father was neck-deep in the mafia. This is a proven fact.

    For that matter, look Whitey Bulger and the damage he did in Boston.

    And if this is just 10 overweight men hanging around a strip club who have 20 soldiers on the street who formed one “crew” what are 100,000 cartel members going to do?

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  276. anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    who cares about the saving of Black America?

    what is good about Black America that is worth saving? not much I would wager!

    what is good about Black america is universally good, good period…will always be good and will go on period, evolving all the time. what is bad about Black america is way too bad and must be cleansed. society functioning the best society can function, on any and all days is fine for everyone

    I don’t care for migration. global migration is a Jewish manipulation. all cultures should be free to address their own existence and develop their lives in relations with the rest of the world as they can and see fit. that would end all migration save routine migration

    ending huge global migratory flows mean ending Jewish global power.. ended forever, Jewish life reduced to regular life and interest like everyone.

    outsize, total Jewish power is the cancer in the human mix, a truly serious and monstrous cancer that has metastasized into a humungus blood-sukking embollism that is bigger than its host now.. has consumed its host in fact and is about to eat the planet

    • Replies: @commonsenserman
  277. @anon

    “Nonetheless, the Italians did a whole bunch of damage to the unions. Stealing pensions to build casinos and then killing union leaders who objected.”

    Jimmy Hoffa wasn’t Italian!

  278. Ron, I haven’t had time to reread and reanalysis all this but have satisfied myself that it is the TAC article I read and allowed to push me away from the anti minimum wage stance I had tended to support for years.

    Now I want to encourage you to develop your ideas on how a decent minimum wage can be made to work by returning to have a close look at Austrslia, its practices, characteristics and institutions.

    It is telling that the 80 years of White Australia policy was largely protection against cheap labor by organised labour’s political arm but also that those on the other side of politics didn’t have money and influence behind them sufficient to push for cheap labor despite a history of “blackbirding” (of Pacific Islanders) and of employing Aboriginal stockmen (cowboys) cheaply in tropical Australia..

    There were anti Chinese riots on gold fields but, in general, Australia, with its constitutional monarchies under British colonial governors was a much less divided society than the legatees of Civil War, slavery and Jim Crow. Troubles between Irish Catholics and Oeangw Lodges were comparatively inconsequential. Gold rushes from 1850, and rising exports of fine wool, meat (thanks to refrigeration) and wheat provided an early version of “the lucky country” that China (after Japan) has been providing again for 20 or 30 years. Australia, with no great rivers and low rainfall, was urbanised, with much of its population in a few major coastal cities well before countries more suited to intensive agriculture. Melbourne in the 1880s may have been the city in the worldwith the highest per capita income

    By the 1920s compulsory voting was providing another support for union based labor in politics. (Typically close to 90% vote in general elections). So, in Australia sometging like democracy can work and continues to do so despite its now being a multiracial society with close to half the population being immigrants or the chldren of immigrants. Sudanese refugees were let in in what I have described as an inoculating dose under a centre right minister of immigration who, a bien pensant asylum seeker advocate told me, “wants to bore it up people like us”.

    I haven’t heard anyone complain that our immigrants from China (and diaspora) and India are a net drain on tax revenue. By contrast foreigners have enormously aided the finances of our universities (which, rather implausibly, have more rated in the world top 100 than any countries other than the US and UK).
    And my state’s finances in particular have been healthy pre Covid 19 because of the taxes associated with Chinese (mostly) and other foreigners/immigtants buying new houses and apartments.

    What you may be pleased to know is that, consistent with our dirigiste history of labor relations as “a new province of law and order” there have been fierce efforts by both government bodies and class action lawyers to extract large sums of basic pay and other entitlements from backsliding employers who have not complied with legal awards – as often as not in favour of underpaid foreign students. Apparently, also, employers are now being caught with years of superannuation and long service leave payments to be made to casual workers who had been more or less guaranteed regular hours even though they had accepted the terms and were entitled to a 25% cash loading in compensation for their casual status. And, they do not, I rea, have to vredit that 25% against the claims that a recent court decision has now encouraged them to make!!

    So, yes, believe your minimum wage can be enforced.

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  279. @anon

    How about open immigration to eastern european and former soviet countries? Lets increase the number of people from this part of the world through reduced immigration restrictions, free one-way air travel, 6 months worth of housing and food stamps and relocate them to cities along the southern border. This is just following the pattern we have practiced over the last few decades so why not open the practice to the one group that has not flooded america?

  280. Mefobills says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    A brief summary, because digging through my comment history to piece things together will not be so easy.

    Gottfried Feder was sidelined because he was not attractive to German industrialists in 1933 and 1934. Feder was a greenbacker who was in the American System of Economy tradition, the same as Frederick List.

    Hitler resurrected the Kaiser/ List’s industrial economy (aka American System) with Reinhardt’s methods instead. Reinhardt is an important economist nobody knows it seems. Germany already had a tradition of industrial capitalism from the Kaiser era, which is why Germany was attacked twice by finance capital with said capital emanating from London and Wall Street.

    Germany’s methods included targeted spending with new purchasing power using the Bill system, including Oefa bills.

    Schacht filled in more of the blanks when he created Mefobills (hence my handle) to channel additional purchasing power into industry, including military goods. There was additional targeted spending power in the form of coupons which were intended to create food security and independence. There is also much much more, including the building of homes, roads, schools and fixing labor relations.

    The Bill System used in Germany was not understood by western economists of that day, and is still not understood. If you examine it closely, it is a form of debt free money that channels toward production and makes sure that goods are made in proportion to new purchasing power. Tax roles increased by 3X in the years between 33-38, to then uptake the debt free represented by the bill spending.

    So, the spirit of Feder was alive and present.. he was not really sidelined. Schacht had to later admit that the Bill system worked, which was a 180 degree turn for him as he was a gold man, convinced that gold was money.

    An easy way to think of things: The big bang event of 1599 and then 1694, was overcome by NSDAP economics in 1933. Today, the big bang event needs to be overcome again.

    Big bang was East India company in 1599, where company stocks are on-sold into markets, and absentee owners control said companies. Big Bang in 1694 was the first debt spreading corporate bank to control a country with hidden stock owners. Shortly thereafter, East India Company and BOE merged with the Crown, especially to send in the military to control India, and no longer using East India company mercenaries.

    Note that Fascism does not allow Finance Capital to rise above the polity. Instead NSDAP used a form of Sovereign money, especially with their bill system. The Reichsbank by this time was already under Chancellorship control, and was effectively a state bank. Private banks lower down and within the system came under control by Schacht’s ability to slam their heads against a wall.

    Hitler fired Schacht in 38 because Schacht would not issue more purchasing power via Mefobillls. Schacht was worried about a second inflation, even though there was no price pressure. Hitler probably knew that he would have to turn to war by 38 as Germany was being triangulated by the finance capitalist democracies.

    The big bang is still with us today as finance capital won in WW2. The same factors that created Weimar have metastasized and have spread worldwide.

  281. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I haven’t heard anyone complain that our immigrants from China (and diaspora) and India are a net drain on tax revenue. By contrast foreigners have enormously aided the finances of our universities (which, rather implausibly, have more rated in the world top 100 than any countries other than the US and UK).

    Immigration is always bad. There is no economic justification.

    The losses to high friction between people groups is enormous. The quality of life goes down, the country loses its high trust familial relations.

    Not everything in an economy is calculated in terms of money, or monetized tax revenue.

    Here in the U.S., (I’m American) similar groups are proven to be a net drain, even in money terms.

    https://cis.org/Report/Immigration-and-American-Worker

    If your country already possesses enough IQ, then immigrating others is completely unnecessary. Policy makers can boost birth rates of the historical people by using methods similar to what Hungary is doing today.

    This whole idea that multiculturalism is our strength, that we need immigrants, and that we need foreign capital to create business is false. Not only is it a lie, it is a pernicious lie, and you are not helping.

    The only immigrants that any country needs, are those who have specialized knowledge. For example, China imports English teachers for a time, and then the teachers go back home. China also imports knowledge workers to gain Western knowledge, and then the westerners are free to leave.

    In this way, China maintains its language, borders, history, and culture. Any politician that wants to replace their historical people with another people group, has made themselves illegitimate, and really is an internal enemy. In my opinion, internal enemies are guilty of treason and hence should be shot.

    Ever since Putnam’s book “Bowling Alone” social scientists have KNOWN that immigration is bad, that it destroys trusting relations and social capital.

    https://www.saddleback.edu/faculty/agordon/documents/Bowling_Alone.pdf

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    , @Incitatus
  282. Unz,
    This is the baloney you and the GOP were pushing in 2011. Our corporations love new customers and sources of cheap labor and they pay us!!! (as well as they pay the Democrats who also get a huge voting block…) Also don’t worry about this amnesty!!! I mean the piece of shit you were pushing in 2007 or so…
    As of this writing, thanks to GOP fools like yourself, you are in a world of shit politically. Spare me the nonsense about hey Latinos aren’t as bad as the Anti Fa whites rioting in Seattle… That is not an on point argument to support immigration fool… That is not their concern… but you know what is their concern?
    Keeping the welfare state a going strong… You like studies… I encourage you to find the National Academy of Science of all places publishing a report that yes America immigrants are a drain to your tax dollars. Using way more than they ever contribute and that only included the federal government. They didn’t include the cost of public schooling for anchor babies and dreamers.. Of course being liberal the NAS ended with with improving education, immigrants will eventually overcome their tax burden..
    That isn’t happening with Latinos… you like studies look at the education levels of latinos… no too good huh>

    And now Democrats could elect a dead dog’s ass in your state as the GOP fades to zero as immigration soared from the time you wrote this shit article to present…

    Let me ask again, are you truly that stupid?

  283. @Anonymous

    Not long after hyper inflation the jew mob will be dispossessed of their holdings including the media that has been carrying Mestizo’s water for decades. Whites will then figure out how little your people bring to the table and we will send you packing. White people built the USA for white people and it has not gone unnoticed that you mestizo’s are the most ungrateful immigrants the USA has ever had.

    Hispanics come from Spain and are white Europeans. Latino’s come from Italy. You are a Mestizo. White people should not be forced to have you living among us under any circumstances. We owe you nothing.

  284. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    Are you BLIND AND DUMB dont you see the flag burning-USA NOT MEXICAN FLAG-, looting, killings, toppling statues, beat up speakers conservative speakers-women. MULTICULTURALISM FAILED …..and Samuel Huntinton was 100%right Immigration without assimilation is doomed….WHITES cannot called themselves whites, they can not have a NGO,a civil organization, a nationalist-multiracial?-America first party, no Institutefor American Studies, white History and its white-non white?- are all racists. The founding fathers, the Declaration of Indpendence, the USA Constitution all MUST died in our collective memory….WHITES had been cowed, silenced, pushed, use,abused, beaten, killed, disenfranchised, marginalized and politically eunuchs castrated defenestrated of their own racial consciuousness.o you relly think that the GOP wants to outreach to minorities, GOP its a cartoon comics party to eternally play second fiddle to the DEMS… a ALL those charts statistics numbers and NOT A WORD about the JEWISH factor …nothing..

  285. @cfountain72

    The first four US immigration laws involved only allowing whites to be citizens. You do not get to decide what it means to be an American. For most of our history what it meant to be an American immigrant did indeed involve your melanin.

    If you love non whites so much go live in one of their nations. I for one have no wish to live in the 3rd world.

  286. rgl says:

    “Immigration, Republicans, and the End of White America”

    It’ll be a few years yet before the coloured masses demographically overtake the present white majority. So what. What does being white in America mean in the first place? A white person can punch a black person on the nose or vice versa. The colour of blood is the same. Red.

    The forced influx of Africans contributes mightily to this white American angst. America proclaimed itself to be the haven for the oppressed. Oppressed people, in the main from Latin America, took America at it’s word and came looking for the American dream. Largely because of (white) American policies towards Latin America that impoverished the people living there.

    America turned great swathes of land into irradiated, poisoned places where people could not live. These folks too, picked up and tried their hand at America. I could go on, but I think you get the gist.

    If white America is feeling put out, do not blame the immigrant. Blame the white folk who largely are responsible for the results that their policies produced. That what you fear today.

    Slavery and war. Those are (white) American sins. That you at some point have to pay the piper should come as no surprise.

  287. @Anonymous

    Reagan did amnesty. The problem got worse. Send them all home.

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  288. @Mefobills

    Although your eloquent post is more passionate assertion than evidence based argument I shall take you to know something about America. But that doesn’t mean you are in a position to prescribe what might work elsewhere. Unfortunately there seems little chance of effective pro natalist policies amongst high IQ people working or even being tried.

    I would regard the idea of America retaining its old solidarity (based on myth and being the most prosperous country in the world) as almost hopeless from about 1960 on. It’s taken a while but the revived anti-Semitism and rallies against the 1% suggest that the disappointments of the middle class have caught up with group feeling whereas, in Australia, we have enjoyed the world’s longest experience of growth without a recession (about 30 years: about to be ended by the pandemic). We have excellent affordable health care and, just from observation from many visits to hospital last year (none this year) our attractiveness to high IQ medical immigrants is a big plus.

    I note, with great interest, how fast opinion can change (and change back?) as I read of “liberal” [in Australia terms “left wing”] Democrats suddenly becoming anti racist pro diversity warriors – supporting incidentally observations about the enthusiasm for BLM riots in the remaining white states. That aside, I am content that, unlike a country of mad Zionist Christians, bombers of abortion clinics and refusal of checks on gun buyers at trade fairs Australia is largely an urbanised country of modern Enlightenment people (carrying along even those who have never heard of the Enlightenment😎). And we are not as boring and smug as the Scandinavians….

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  289. @Paintersforms

    Reagan was conned into Amnesty by Tip O’Oneal, and the demorat Congress. He made a deal to end future illegal immigration and curb legal immigration. Of course the Dems reneged on their end. He didn’t “want” amnesty.

  290. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Immigration is always bad. Your assertions do not change basic facts. Differential peoples will have higher friction.

    You can mitigate the I’ll effects of immigration by letting in only people types who are similar and thus assimilable.

    Why bother unless there is intent from your ruling class. There is no benefit to the existing population as shown in Bowling Alone.

    Australia has a finance plutocracy blowing a property bubble. New debt free immigrants can be put into new debts to pay old debts.

    Steve Keen has much to say on this. The similarity between Oz and US is a cautionary tale you are blithely ignoring. Perhaps u are an immigrant yourself hence your inability to accept basic facts?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  291. HenryTJ says:
    @Hardeep SIngh

    Typical. This indian says he doesn’t want to end white American and then follows it up by saying “nativists” need to end (i.e., any notion of self-preservation needs to disappear). As you were told, GTFO.

  292. @Mefobills

    As it happens there have been 8 generations of my family in Australia starting with the Irish and English Catholic convicts who married in 1798 in an Anglican ceremony and started a long line of pragmatists..
    You will not be well informed if you rely on Steve Keen and you would have been poor if you relied on his financial advice. It was his own words which are the reason he fell out of fashion even amongst the eccentrics of financial opinion. He told us he had sold his house at what turned out to be pretty close to the bottom of the market because he expected another 30 per cent decline – instead of which it roared on up.

    I don’t know where you get your idea of Australia having a “finance [or any] plutocracy”. The Labor Party has little in common with the Democrats in the US which, in the end, have to allow themselves to be bought if they are to have the money needed to win primaries and then eldctions where just getting people to vote involves expensive promises and scare tactics [not that sc are tactics are unknown in Oz of course]. And I have had ties of family or friendship with so many Treasurers , Trustees and Finance Committee members of the main centre right parties, as well as bank chairmen, that I know what you say about a finance plutocracy has no substance or relevance.

    I can see how Amdrica, as a much mote religious country than Australia – even after Catholic sex scandals have done so much damage to that brand in both countries – can find differences in immigrants that are intractably difficult to reconcile with. Indeed Australia has had a bit of trouble with Muslims from Lebanon that gave rise to the so-called Cronulla riots in Sydney a few years ago. But it overstretches the memory to find any other examples. Indeed if the American rich had not allowed the American Middle class to suffer financially from their greed, callousness and ridiculously expensive foreign and military policies – as well as exorbitant costs of healthcare – America might be able to run a functioning democracy with a sensibly managed immigration policy. That certainly seems not to be the case now. Mind you I am in no position to say whether Ron Unz is right in suggesting that America’s big racial problem is just that of having nearly 14 per cent of African-Americans and that uneducated Latinos are not a serious problem. I can say, with some confidence that the quality of immigrants we have arriving in Australia for the last 20 years or so offsets any problems of cultural difference.

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  293. An interesting historical artifact. With Trump’s Hispanic support hovering close to Rove’s 40% threshold, anti-immigration sentiments polling high across all demographics, and academic economists conceding that growth predicated on labor arbitrage isn’t a universal boon, perhaps a new, anti-libertarian perspective is needed.

  294. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    https://onproperty.com.au/the-australian-property-bubble-explained-with-steve-keen/

    If your country is neo-liberal, with a financialized economy, then you will have property bubbles.

    Later in time, nobody will be able to afford homes as home prices have been pushed. That is already happening in Oz. The knock on effect, is that family formation will go down, and local population will stop having children. That also is already happening.

    Finance plutocracy will then use the race card, to divide and conquer. They do this to also divert attention from their failures.

    You are just further behind on the curve, and are blinded by ignorance. The property bubble was already run in Japan in the 80’s, and in the U.S. in the 90’s and now in Oz.

    Look outside of your box, and don’t be blinded by your own experience, it causes you to make false assumptions.

    It is good that Oz is taking in northeast asians, as they will assimilate eventually. But, why bother. Immigration is bad, and you would be better off by promoting your own population. Exceptions don’t make the rule.

    Your Muslim population is unassimilable, and you tend to ignore this aspect of immigration. Also, the costs are high.

    Why bother with immigration? It is stupid and high cost on all levels, especially if you ruin your former low-friction high trust civilization in the process.

    Extreme high cost of Muslims in OZ, a gift – like herpes, that will keep on giving.

    https://morningmail.org/islamic-immigration/

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  295. @Mefobills

    I don’t think we need neo-liberalism and a financialized economy to achieve asset bubbles and crashes. Much of what has kept Australian house prices up is (I believe) immigration and Chinese buying and that has been stopped dead in its tracks by the pandemic. One of the biggest factors in the near future will be the government’s desire to maintain the health of our banking system, particularly the big four. It won’t be ignored that bank dividends have been an important part of retired people’s incomes, directly and indirectly.

    We agree that Australia’s religious Muslims are not good for the country but they are fewer than 3 per cent of the population. I don’t understand what you could mean by finance plutocracy (which Australia does not have, doubly protected by its electoral systems) playing the race card. What race? How? Under what circumstances?

    As Australia needs a population with a decent average IQ if it is to manage and hold on to its large territory and resources with a comparatively small population it would be nice to think we could breed our own but that seems impossible without the steady continuing of dysgenic breeding that has not been averted by any prosperous country yet. So, we have to hope that selective immigration, combined with typical immigrant vigour may continue to do for us what it has over the last 75 years. The alternative is just too late to try. And remember Melbourne’s 5 years running as The Economist’s most liveable city.

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  296. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You keep making excuses for immigration, as if it is an unmitigated good. Your arguments are specious.

    Chinese hot money flooding in does increase housing prices… so how is that good for the native population as they are displaced by higher prices?

    The same thing happened in Vancouver, and is overwhelmingly negative to the native population.

    With regards to banking, Australia former state banks have all been privatized… how is that a good thing? Privatized money power tends to control government, not the other way around. Privatized money looks for gains at the expense of family formation.

    Bank dividends can only be part of retirement when you have Giro banking, or something like savings and loans, where people’s savings are directed at housing, so they earn a guaranteed amount in retirement. These were called Trusts in Canada.

    Finance plutocracy forms with private banking and free markets. Finance sector works to self aggrandize at the overall expense of the country.

    it would be nice to think we could breed our own but that seems impossible without the steady continuing of dysgenic breeding that has not been averted by any prosperous country yet.

    Hungary. Poland. These countries are not trying to replace their native population, so they will hold onto their culture and history. Their countries will be livable in the future. They won’t have hostile in-groups forming, because they will be homogenous.

    Prosperity is an illusion. Materialism is not the only form of wealth. The Western countries induced women into the workforce. New debtors (women) create new debts to pay old debts. Women in the workforce = low birthrates. High cost housing = low family formation = low birthrates.

    You have to be out of your mind to think that immigration is going to be a net benefit. Look at England, the mother country. She already has BAME movements.

    It doesn’t take much for flawed humans to form in-groups, to then self aggrandize their in group into power.

    https://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2020/08/grrrrrr.html

    You have all these examples, such as England and America, where immigration is a destructive force, yet you somehow think Australia is immune? The monetary practices are almost identical across the anglosphere, and the false narrative is the same… multiculturalism is our strength, when the opposite is true.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  297. @Mefobills

    The trouble is that some of your premises are wrong. Indeed hard to justify when you say I write as if immigration is an unmitigated good. Of course it isn’t and I have pointed to Muslim immigration and unskilled lowering of wages immigration as likely to be harmful.

    As it happens the state banks were privatised because they all suffered the same fit of madness (by injection of ideas from state Labor governments) at the same time and tried to make those glorified building societie run by petty bureaucrrats into investment banks. When I suggested to the Liberal (I.e.conseevative in Australia) Treasurer in the new government that he re-establish a State Bank as what it had originally been, namely a source of cheap finance, particularly for housing, he was horrified because, unfortunately he believed an inflexible version of new Thatcherite dogma. It would probably have been of marginal value in a rapidly evolving economy.

    Maybe Vancouver has a problem that Australia doesn’t have because (a) it isn’t Chinese “hot money” buying Australian real estate but as often as not buying of places for the family, starting with students studying in Australia; (b) they generally can’t buy established houses which is why high rise central city apartment developments cater to them.
    I am no fan of multiculturalism unless it is just a step in a path to assimilation (though I will allow assimilation to work both ways provided the basics of law and language are maintained). So I could agree with you if you were right about the comparability of immigration policies and practices throughout the Anglosphere. But they are not.

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  298. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Which of my premises are wrong? All of them are backed up by real data and social science.

    The main social science I have pointed to is Bowling Alone by Putnam.

    These exact social consequences are operative everywhere in the world where there is high immigration. This is just observable reality. Putnam himself didn’t want to believe his data, so he sat on it for over a year.

    Eventually Putnam sacked up and published his data because he was more interested in the truth than making excuses for his false world view.

    If you are going to have immigration of differential populations, then public policy is to shut immigration off for a period of time, to then absorb the population and create new myths and history. This is exactly what America tried with the 1924 immigration cut-off, because Eastern European immigrants (mostly Jews) were causing high friction. They were causing a “turtle effect” where people don’t interact because of their differences.

    With regards to your state banks going rogue, that is due to the law not being strong enough to resist mammon. The same thing happened in Canada when the Bank of International Settlements came a knocking in 1971 and bribed parliamentarians. In this case, the Bank of Canada had been operating perfectly, and there was little public debt, lots of local economy, lots of small business formation, and world beating companies.

    Canada did this without immigration, and they had low cost colleges to then educate their own people – not foreigners.

    It is beyond stupid to immigrate because you loose your own history, culture, and you de-racinate your population.

    Finance Oligarchy spews lies through an owned press, and then these lies get taken up as narrative in soft heads.

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  299. Incitatus says:
    @Mefobills

    “Immigration is always bad. There is no economic justification.”

    With due respect, a rather broad assertion. Immigration was key to the development of American power.

    Canada has greater land area than the USA and 37.6 million population (20+% foreign born) – less than the population of California (39.6 million). Canada’s GDP is is $1.74 trillion USD (2019). California’s is $3.2 trillion (2019). How do you develop territory and resources without emigrants?

    “The losses to high friction between people groups is enormous. The quality of life goes down, the country loses its high trust familial relations.”

    Kindly give a dollar figure for “frictional” losses.

    Others might equally argue such ‘friction’ leads to competition that enhances over-all productivity. A ‘Darwinian’ struggle that might well appeal to Hitler? After all, by summer 1944 there were eight million forced foreign laborers in Germany. All dutifully labeled en-costume (intercourse with Aryans automatically punished with death).

    Doubtless you appreciate this, since your screen name (Mefobills) commemorates miraculous Helmut Schacht and NSDAP Germany. Notwithstanding a banking-military-industrial complex all-too-willing to cooperate with Ponzi-scheme rearmament, Schacht knew (without balanced foreign exchange) it would break the bank. Probably also knew Hitler was clearly committed to war (5 Nov 1937 Hoßbach Memorandum). Territorial conquest was the only solution.

    As for alleged decline in “familial relations”, why does that bond seem highest in immigrant communities?

    “Quality of life [under immigration] goes down”?

    That’s news where I live, as immigrants have a near monopoly on lawn care and most menial labor. Enabling many American employers to become willingly lazy and obese. Their lawns never looked better!

    “If your country already possesses enough IQ, then immigrating others is completely unnecessary.”

    A statement ridiculous on so many levels it beggars belief.

    “Policy makers can boost birth rates of the historical people by using methods similar to what Hungary is doing today.”

    Don’t keep us in suspense. Healthy porn industry, Cealis and Viagra?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Mefobills
  300. Mefobills says:
    @Incitatus

    With due respect, a rather broad assertion. Immigration was key to the development of American power.

    That is a unique case, where settlers were building a continent. Today’s immigration pattern is different, where economic migrants are moving in to an already established civilization.

    Russia has an immigration policy where new immigrants MUST NORM to the dominant Slavic and orthodox culture, otherwise they are not let in. This is sensible policy as it prevents social friction.

    Canada has greater land area than the USA and 37.6 million population (20+% foreign born) – less than the population of California (39.6 million). Canada’s GDP is is $1.74 trillion USD (2019). California’s is $3.2 trillion (2019). How do you develop territory and resources without emigrants?

    Canada did amazing things from a small population base starting in 1938 of about 11 million people. This idea that you need to fill your country up with third world immigrants is belied by history and facts.

    Here is some of what Canadian’s did with their own labor:

    These things netted out of Canada’s sovereing money system, the time period of 38-74:
    1) Free Education, especially for returning WW2 Veterans. Improving labor in this way improves productivity
    2) Business loans
    3) Land Grants. (Land Grants are a way of keeping land from being grabbed by monopoly forces. This was easy in Canada given the amount of land they have.)
    4) St Lawrence Seaway was dredged and improved and added locks. (Note that Canada spends into their commons, as all governments should.) This is something like Panama Canal and a significant engineering feat. It allowed an inland seaway to get from Montreal and Lake Ontario.
    5) Welland Canal is another waterway linke between Lak Ontario and Lake Erie. It is eigh locks and lifts ships 326 feet over the Niagra Escapment.
    6) Trans Canada Highway was built, about 4,000 miles
    7) Universal Health Care. Since economy was efficient, health care could be afforded. Only after 1974 did their Health Care System go bad.
    8) Pensions and Direct Injections

    Canada also built a transcontinental railroad themselves, and without graft and corruption.

    All of your other points I have already addressed, so obviously you don’t want to learn and have some sort of emotional attachment to immigration.

    Here it is again, the economic reasons for NOT immigrating:

    https://cis.org/Report/Immigration-and-American-Worker

    Policy makers can boost a native populations birth rates. Nazi Germany did it starting in 1934 by returning women to the home, and giving loans for children, and making housing affordable.

    Hungary is doing it today with similar tactics. Why is this controversial?

    The porn industry is typically Jewish, with the intent on breaking down families. Ergo, immigrating Jews (and their liberal nostrums) is a bad idea.

    If you have a perfectly good country like Australia, why would you want to destroy it?

    Quality of life does go down, as Putnam has shown. You have obviously not bothered to understand data and history, and are just popping off because my provable narrative goes against your false belief system.

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  301. Mefobills says:
    @Incitatus

    That’s news where I live, as immigrants have a near monopoly on lawn care and most menial labor. Enabling many American employers to become willingly lazy and obese. Their lawns never looked better!

    And you stupidly make my case for me.

    Immigration of Mexican’s and other south of the border peeeps, means that native teenagers never learn what hard work is. Their access to menial labor jobs is cut out by immigrants.

    Do you see immigrants doing menial labor in China? There is no economic justification for it, other than creating a plutocracy of haves and have-nots.

    Creating an in-group to then take advantage of their labor is extremely bad social policy, and the rotten fruits of that ill informed policy are born in the future.

    BAME is a perfect example of a hostile in-group forming from immigrants. Here it is AGAIN.

    https://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2020/08/grrrrrr.html

  302. @Mefobills

    I’ve forgotten most of what I have known from or about Putnam’s book so I hope to get it on Kindle and read it. However, you persist in ignoring differences which, admittedly, might just make you agree that it is too late for Australia.

    I add to the.corrections I meant to add to your previous reply to me that indeed bank dividends have been a large contributor to the welfare of recipients of pensions from superannuation funds either ones run by financial institutions or joint industry-union funds or Self Manage Superannuation Funds. Including the franking credit for taxes paid by the banks the dividend return was often 8 per cent or more so, until Covid 19 struck advice to lighten off the investment in banks was hard to accept.

    Your last paragraph seems to be just a repettition of dogma you rely on without proof and I think your second last par is a careless muddle since I suspect that you want to excoriate *allowing* immigration to one’s country because one then can *lose* [not “loose”] etc.
    I wonder what you would make if the fact that the outstanding Australian born head-professional/club manager of my tennis club, who is highly regarded in the US and UK, grew up speaking only Calabrian at home till he went to school. And I well recall the Italian-Australian lawyer who told me his Italian wasn’t too good because he had only spoken Calabrian as a child.

    Anyway, thanks for reminding me of Bowling Alone which you obviously rate as uniquely authoritative.

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  303. v steve says:

    The wrong people are in Congress.

  304. @Tor597

    Anglo-Saxon rulers sent their kids to Ireland to learn from Irish scholars. Indians south of border were licking poisonous frogs to get high, eating human hearts, ect. Irish being fully capable of rising does not mean Indio savages will.

  305. incitatus says:
    @Mefobills

    ‘Immigration was key to the development of American power.’
    “That is a unique case, where settlers were building a continent.”

    Isn’t 21C Canada similar to colonial USA? Wide-open spaces, vacant land and ample resources? Same (greater?) potential?

    “Today’s immigration pattern is different, where economic migrants are moving in to an already established civilization.”

    Fair point, depending on the venue (and motives).

    “Canada did amazing things from a small population base starting in 1938 of about 11 million people. This idea that you need to fill your country up with third world immigrants is belied by history and facts.”

    Acually Canada’s grand accomplishment goes much further back than 1938. Champlain in Acadie 1604. Port Royal 1605. Québec 1608; Louis Jolliet and Marquette (seven men in two canoes descend the Mississippi to the Arkansas 1673). René-Robert Cavelier de La Salle (to mouth of the Mississippi 1682, Texas (1684). Pierre Lemoine d’Iberville (Hudson Bay 1686, Louisiane 1699). Caesars of the Wilderness. By 1755 they had gone as far west as Calgary. Alexander Mackenzie reached the Pacific 1793, years before Lewis and Clark (1805).

    What were Amero-English colonists (who outnumbered Canadians 30:1) doing? Hanging witches (Salem 1692-93). In 1756, 90% of Amero-English colonists lived within 50 miles of the Atlantic. A few (like Virginia’s Lt-Governor Robert Dinwiddie and Laurence Washington (George’s elder brother) held shares in the Ohio Company. Real moneymaker. The rest is history.

    The interesting thing is that Brits, Scots, and French fashioned a viable nation, one all can envy. They solved the healthcare problem and now render better care (better metrics, longer life) to ALL for a fraction of cost of the sad excuse the USA offers to the few that can afford it. Revenge?

    “obviously you don’t want to learn and have some sort of emotional attachment to immigration.”

    Not really. Agree with merit-based immigration and adhesion to communal standards. It was true for New England and New France 17C (you didn’t get in without means-of-support or sponsorship – usually a three-year indenture, and religious endorsement). Disregarding the English Crown adding convicts to the mix.

    But you’ve let country of origin out of the mix. Should that matter?

    “Immigration of Mexican’s and other south of the border peeeps, means that native teenagers never learn what hard work is. Their access to menial labor jobs is cut out by immigrants.”

    Maybe. Know some who mow lawns, cut trees, plow snow and the rest. Albeit with machinery that makes short work of it.

    You know, of course, NAFTA (signed 17 Dec 1992) destroyed Mexican family-farmers (prey of industrialized American Corporate Agra, major donors to American politicians). Their only recourse was to seek employment North. And so it has come to be.

    Thus most American teenagers wax without physical toil. No question we’ve gotten fat and lazy. Big surprise. The price of empire. Don’t think it will end well. Hope I’m wrong.

    “Policy makers can boost a native populations birth rates. Nazi Germany did it starting in 1934 by returning women to the home, and giving loans for children, and making housing affordable.”

    Kinder, Küche, Kirche? You’re too modest. NSDAP Germany also enshrined state ‘Lebensborn’ hatcheries for bastard children to be raised by the state. Kidnapped ‘Aryan’ children from Poland and Ukraine. All while flooding the Vaterland with eight million foreign laborers (summer 1944).

    What’s up with that, mefobills?

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  306. Mefobills says:
    @incitatus

    You are building straw men to then knock them down. There is nothing good about immigration, and there is nothing good for taking from others. Both of these factors have their genesis in finance capitalism.

    You assume incorrectly that because I agree with returning women home to then improve birthrates, that I also approve of Lebensraum.

    That is you making a mental leap into falsity. I never said that, and your “what is that about” is an attempt to put words in my mouth.

    This is why I keep challenging you world view, because it is a strange mishmash of contradictions that falls apart when examined.

    You know, of course, NAFTA (signed 17 Dec 1992) destroyed Mexican family-farmers (prey of industrialized American Corporate Agra, major donors to American politicians). Their only recourse was to seek employment North. And so it has come to be.

    Of course that is what happened. My entire unz comment history discusses the ravages of Finance Capitalism. I go into this phenomena at length and give examples in history. Again, you are leaping without looking, and your worldview is full of logical contradictions.

    There is nothing good about immigration, especially mass immigration, and your being an apologist for it puts you on the wrong side of history. You have been duped, and are a dupe.

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  307. Mefobills says:
    @incitatus

    What were Amero-English colonists (who outnumbered Canadians 30:1) doing? Hanging witches (Salem 1692-93). In 1756, 90% of Amero-English colonists lived within 50 miles of the Atlantic. A few (like Virginia’s Lt-Governor Robert Dinwiddie and Laurence Washington (George’s elder brother) held shares in the Ohio Company. Real moneymaker. The rest is history.

    My comment history is full of the perversion of Calvanist Judeo-Christianity, and its genesis.

    Why would I disagree with your quote above, when I have talked about its perversions?

    There were plenty of Bank of England stooges that were trying to enclose the lands of North America.

    Human’s are governed by prices and money, and I make the case that immigration is a subset of this control network. The idea is to enclose the lands to then pay expanding debt claims. Or, immigrate people to harvest their life energy and put them into debt.

    Earlier I did mention my admiration for Bank of Canada, and how it spent debt free money, did I not?

    Canada did not need to immigrate third world people to have a good standard of living for its own citizens. This fact alone should stick sideways in your craw.

    Immigration increase of GDP with population increase is a meaningless statistic that dupes like to bandy about. It only mans that new people (immigrants) are extracting from the land the wealth they produce. It is more people doing the same thing, and has no bearing on standard of living. In reality, they don’t even consume what they produce, as shown by the links I provided.

    In fact, standard of living overall goes down, which is emphatically true and born out by data.

    Having a high friction, deracinated population at war with itself is the height of stupidity, and it means that the “planners of civilization” are only in it for the money. In other words, finance capital is the hidden ruler. The planners can escape to their international bolt holes, and leave you holding the bag.

    Your being a dupe and spreading misinformation is not helpful to identifying real problems.

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  308. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    wonder what you would make if the fact that the outstanding Australian born head-professional/club manager of my tennis club, who is highly regarded in the US and UK, grew up speaking only Calabrian at home till he went to school. And I well recall the Italian-Australian lawyer who told me his Italian wasn’t too good because he had only spoken Calabrian as a child.

    This is an exception makes the rule type of argument, which is based on false logic.

    There are always exceptions. What matters is the overall statistical mean and distribution.

    Look at Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas… we should import more negroes from Africa.

    See how that works?

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  309. incitatus says:
    @Mefobills

    “Canada did not need to immigrate third world people to have a good standard of living for its own citizens. This fact alone should stick sideways in your craw.”

    What was the ‘black year’ (année noire) when Canadian decline due to immigration became manifest? 1763? Wager some Québécois think so. When did your family arrive? How many fought/died/were captured/escaped in wars with Native Nations in the 17C? After all, Canada has a history as long as the American Colonies/USA.

    My ‘craw’ remains unobstructed, thanks for asking.

    “I did mention my admiration for Bank of Canada, and how it spent debt free money.”

    Appreciate the BOC, sadly can’t say I admire ANY bank (least the FED or BOE). Like Las Vegas casinos, the house always wins.

    “Immigration increase of GDP with population increase is a meaningless statistic that dupes like to bandy about.”

    Don’t necessarily disagree. It’s relative. A random metric in a competitive world. Low GDP life can be far superior to the higher figures. Depends on the venue and how one defines ‘quality of life’.

    “It only mans that new people (immigrants) are extracting from the land the wealth they produce. It is more people doing the same thing, and has no bearing on standard of living. In reality, they don’t even consume what they produce”

    ‘Extracting from the land’ and “more people doing the same thing” are pretty loose phrases. Kindly clarify.

    I take your “they [emigrants] don’t even consume what they produce” as a simple mind-fart. If they produce more than they consume, what’s the problem?

    “Having a high friction, deracinated population at war with itself is the height of stupidity, and it means that the “planners of civilization” are only in it for the money.”

    Abhor friction and stupidity. Don’t know “planners of civilization”, let alone whether they’re “in it for the money”. Doubtless there are greedy, clever people who go to bed only after checking their wealth-management accounts every night. Most fund ‘professionals’ excuse inequity as the ‘genius of capitalism’ or some such other nonsense. They know who butters their bread. Their song changes from paean (winning) to lament (losing). Little to do with emigration. All to do with speculation. Sorry.

    “You are building straw men to then knock them down. There is nothing good about immigration, and there is nothing good for taking from others. Both of these factors have their genesis in finance capitalism.”

    Immigration need not ‘take from others’, especially given (in Canada) undeveloped resources and land. Kindly prove otherwise.

    “Your being a dupe and spreading misinformation is not helpful to identifying real problems.”

    Full apologies, Prove me wrong.

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  310. @Mefobills

    Just en passant…. i wonder whether you are ascribing problems to an undefined “finance capitalism” that are better explained by structural deficiencies in America’s so-called democracy. I refer, in particular, to the unrestrained power of money and of the lobbies which add other forms of voter solidarity to their money politics (e.g. the NRA and the ethnic bias in the MSM and Hollywood).

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  311. @Mefobills

    Your dogmatism blinds you to the fact that these were not exceptions and were of course examples of the right kind of immigration, albeit accidentally, as the product of European poverty rather than selection for skulls back in the post WW2 years. It was my casual observation for years that the reservoir of good brains in Italian immigrants was often evidenced by their success in building and construction whereas the Greeks had often come (later) from totally uneducated backgrounds from which adequate IQs emerged to foster professional careers as lawyers and doctors. My tennis pro btw has a chemistry degree but got diverted by his tennis talent which didn’t quite take him to the lucrative top but merely to having many upper middle class friends round the world. The Calabrian/Australian lawyer you might say fits my Greek model. Unfortunately Australian experience of large scale immigration since the 1930s has been so successful that we need to keep a vigilant eye on the growth of the soft-hearted sector (now well evidenced it seems in US white states) that would let in more than a vrry limited number of highly skilled and talented black Africans (and if they are as gorgeous as the Kenyan theatre sister who told me she was Bantu but had an elegant Niloliic nose she needed be hearing for a full professorship). Sadly, old Aussies are still capable of stupid racist abuse of Aboriginal football stars so it is, to a great extent, the character of our own native dregs that entails the need for careful selection of immigranrs as much as anything else.

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  312. @Wizard of Oz

    Apologies for not having time to fix all minor typos caused by Autifill before edit time ended. E.g. ,”not heading for” gor “hearing” and Nilotic rather than Nolic…..

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  313. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    No worries about the typos, I’m not an ass.

    The bottom line is if you want a high trust population, and for that the social science is known.

    Go against the science and then bad things happen. It is a law like gravity. You fall down and you bump your head with gravity, and bad things happen over time with mass immigration.

    You import people that are dissimilar, and allow them to build separate communities, with separate languages, and separate laws, then you are asking for problems.

    The only way out, is to have a dominant culture and then slam the immigration doors shut.

    Then, over time, the people E Plurbis (many) become Uno (one). The differential groups assimilate to each other, and mostly to the dominant culture.

    Over enough time, the people will blend into a new race. Races are basically extended families that evolved in a geographic location over long spans of time.

    If your country is already close to an ideal state, then screwing it up with high friction immigration is stupid. The only reason for it is a nefarious agenda, or to make money.

    I would be OK with only immigrating girls only, as women norm to the values of their husbands. An immigration pattern of this type would not tilt the country off its axis.

  314. Mefobills says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Finance capitalism overcomes democracy… it makes democracy a laughing stock.

    The big bang event was Bank of England combing with East India company.

    BOE was first debt spreading bank to issue its credit, where the stock owners are hidden. Hidden stock owners then controlled the country.

    East India stock was on-sold into markets, so basically you had absentee owners controlling the companies.

    This construct soon was running England and “markets” were where monetized prices were discovered. In other words, stock market capital combined with private bank credit, combined with stock owned companies.

    England did just fine in preceding years, with Talley Sticks, where the sovereign issues his credit, and the people use it (Kings credit).

    The big bang event of finance capital means that people are no longer sovereign, and their vote doesn’t matter.

    The structural deficiencies of America were that the republic (its not a Democracy) were baked into the cake at the constitution, especially in Section 8 of the first articles … the country is to borrow its credit, not issue.

    On this “borrow vs issue” is the one do-over that Thomas Jefferson wanted at the end of his life.. his greatest regret. Jefferson knew that the king must issue his credit, and not borrow from privateers.

    Tryanny slipped into America through the back door, and via the money power.

    Finance capitalism is not ill defined.

  315. Mefobills says:
    @incitatus

    Extracting from the land’ and “more people doing the same thing” are pretty loose phrases. Kindly clarify.

    I take your “they [emigrants] don’t even consume what they produce” as a simple mind-fart. If they produce more than they consume, what’s the problem?

    Not a mind fart.

    Land is the source of all wealth. The earth provides energy, minerals and the things humans need to fashion goods into prices. Prices fetch money, and money is thrown backwards into industry, to then be distributed to labor.

    Immigrants are typically labor, and the owners of “capital” want low priced labor.

    This labor then works and his life energy is directed toward creating a plutocracy of “capital ownership” and the rest of his life energy is used to consume what he creates.

    What he creates are goods and services with his labor, which are turned into prices.

    There is also the high friction component of immigration that makes the economy slow down enormously, which is the costs that are avoided with high trust. High trust means that there is a non monetized volunteer sector where people just do the right thing because they are all of the same extended tribe. They watch each others kids, they don’t need a police state, or an intrusive kritarchy of law.

    The lack of public trust is an enormous cost loss. Immigration is ok, only if it is a trickle, otherwise there is no justification for it. It is especially bad when it funds a finance plutocracy, who then own the press, to then program your few brain cells with false narrative.

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  316. incitatus says:
    @Mefobills

    “Land is the source of all wealth”

    You’re not a realtor by any chance?

    “The earth provides energy, minerals and the things humans need to fashion goods into prices.”

    Actually, human specialists (geologists, engineers, surveyors, etc.) provide the expertise to unlock resources. Funded by corporations and entrepreneurs, marketed by specialists in a competitive economy to consumers living/working in buildings fashioned by more professionals. Sorry.

    The ‘Mother Earth’ cult went out with Dorian Greeks.

    “There is also the high friction component of immigration that makes the economy slow down enormously, which is the costs that are avoided with high trust”

    Doubtless that’s why the economy of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) ‘slowed down’ after foreigner/immigrant workers from Aramco discovered and extracted oil.

    “The lack of public trust is an enormous cost loss.”

    Kindly provide sourced figures.

    “Immigration is ok, only if it is a trickle, otherwise there is no justification for it. It is especially bad when it funds a finance plutocracy, who then own the press, to then program your few brain cells with false narrative.”

    Well, few like “finance plutocracy”, least of all those who “own the press”. Any remedies?

    Think bitching about immigration adds to a solution? What’s your vision of the future?

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  317. Mefobills says:
    @incitatus

    When you are born into the world, you receive what the world gives you.

    The world, or the land, is the source of all wealth.

    Then you reply with a snarky comment, like “are you a realtor.”

    Human’s have been trying to enclose the land for their benefit for a long time now.

    Then you use loaded words like “bitching” about immigration. That is you trying to demean something that is a serious problem, and reducing it to something childish.

    Vision of the future, hard to say since humans (including you) are brainwashed to such a degree. Although you are honest enough to engage, which is encouraging.

    I would say that the construct of finance capital that was created at the big bang event has to be undone. The big bang was the creation of finance capitalism starting in England in 1692.

    I’ve noticed that Yannis Varoufakis is thinking about one vote per employee for each business, and undoing the absentee voting of share holders for companies. This is an undoing of one aspect of finance capital, so it is interesting that others are coming to the same conclusions.

    Clown world has many authors, but this managing of humanity with prices and money will have to be undone. Immigration is a subset of clown world, where the life energy of immigrants is being harvested. Simultaneously the costs of immigration are cost shifted onto the middle class, ultimately leading into a two class world … the rich and the poor.

    So, if the world polarizes into two factions then that would be really bad.

    Another line of attack is to rewrite the bible in accordance with new understanding. Jesus was a monetary reformer, who started his mission on the jubilee year. A jubilee un-polarizes economies. Christians would have the mental framework to resist their enslavement.

    Rewriting the narrative in people’s brains, starting in seminary schools would be a way to begin the repair.

    https://michael-hudson.com/2017/12/he-died-for-our-debt-not-our-sins/

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  318. incitatus says:
    @Mefobills

    “When you are born into the world, you receive what the world gives you.”

    Most might say what ‘God gives you.’ Ancient Greeks might favor ‘Fate’.“World” is pretty broad. United Nations?

    “the land, is the source of all wealth.”

    Proud Ancien Régime maxim. Feudal domains inherited by centuries-old nobility not obligated to pay tax, afforded the privilege of leveling taxes (censitaire, gabelle, bridge tolls, travel, etc.) on peasants and tenants. Didn’t end well.

    New/Old World example: Scot John Law and his ‘Mississippi/Western Company’ 1717, formed in France to farm profits from the royal mint, the slave trade, tobacco, and Louisiana monopolies. An Immense slice of the ‘world’. Collapsed in 1723. Law dies in Venice (pneumonia, poor, age 57) six years later (1729). Lot of good ownership of the ‘world’ did him.

    Doubtless current US tax code approximates Ancien Régime privilege. Real estate and mortgage banks are obscenely subsidized, breeding ‘noble’ incompetents and ingrates that pay little or no tax (in the Leona Helmsley/Fred+Donald J. Trump, Prince Jared tradition). An age of parasites elevated to want-to-be-genius ‘creators’.

    “Human’s have been trying to enclose the land for their benefit for a long time now.”

    Do you mean ‘develop’? Example: British/American geologists and engineers explore ME wasteland and find unknown oil reserves in medieval-pauper ‘kingdoms’ that suddenly make 15C tribal rulers immensely wealthy (like winning the lottery when someone else buys the ticket?).

    Ironic? Specialists were well paid, like sponsoring ex-pat companies (e.g. ARAMCO), though they didn’t own the ‘land’. Lesson? Knowledge, expertise and marketing is as valuable as land. Just a thought.

    You might also want to acknowledge the World/God/Fate with conferring ‘intelligence” and ambition, as well as open societies that (albeit imperfectly) espouse ‘opportunity”. Just another thought.

    “Clown world has many authors, but this managing of humanity with prices and money will have to be undone. Immigration is a subset of clown world, where the life energy of immigrants is being harvested. Simultaneously the costs of immigration are cost shifted onto the middle class, ultimately leading into a two class world … the rich and the poor.”

    That world’s long here. Jeff Bezos made $13,000,000,000 in one day (21 Jul 2020). How much ‘earth’ does he own?

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/21/amazons-jeff-bezos-sees-net-worth-grow-by-record-13b-in-one-day/

    The pandemic is the best thing that’s ever happened to ’essential’ Amazon (and most food retailers). Multi-force leveler. Like profiting gratis from the threat of ‘Walking Dead’ (COVID-19) zombies.

    “Another line of attack is to rewrite the bible in accordance with new understanding. Jesus was a monetary reformer…Rewriting the narrative in people’s brains, starting in seminary schools would be a way to begin the repair.”

    Good luck with that!

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