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Although I launched The Unz Review in late 2013, for the first couple of years I was preoccupied with political campaigns and software development work, and only wrote an occasional piece here and there. My only notable article was my lengthy expose of the true history of Sen. John McCain:

Then, during the summer of 2016 I was saddened to read of the passing of Pulitzer Prize winner Sydney Schanberg, a former top-ranking editor at the New York Times. He had sometimes been described as one of the greatest American war-correspondents of the twentieth century, and a few years earlier I had been proud to publish his astonishing expose of McCain’s central role in the Vietnam POW cover-up, a revelation that had completely transformed my own understanding of the issue.

One of the most distinguished journalists in America had spent years producing a stunning blockbuster, and the only reason it gained significant attention was because I had been willing to publish and later promote it. This bizarre situation greatly shaped my views on the reliability of the American media, and eventually became the central theme of one of my articles a couple of years later.

So in 2016 I wrote a long tribute to Schanberg and his remarkable work, arguing that the story he had broken had simply been too big for the American media to be willing to report, and I followed it up with a couple of additional columns.

This also prompted me to launch my American Pravda series, and over the next few weeks I produced a half-dozen more articles, notably including an account of the likely assassination of Gen. George Patton by the U.S. government and the accidental destruction of TWA Flight 800 by the American military. These pieces generated a considerable amount of attention, with several of them drawing hundreds of comments. But afterward I was diverted away by urgent software issues for most of the next two years.

In June 2018 I was finally able to return to my American Pravda series, and began to present some of the extremely controversial material I had uncovered over the previous few years of research and investigation, starting with a presentation of the Suvorov Hypothesis and the writings of British historian David Irving. During the nearly four years that followed, I added almost 350,000 words to the series, a series also conveniently collected together into a freely downloadable eBook.

My topics had ranged very widely, including the JFK assassination, the 9/11 attacks, World War II and the Holocaust, Mossad assassinations, the Covid outbreak and biowarfare, HIV/AIDS, and most recently the underlying causes of the Russia-Ukraine war. I think there are very few bodies of work anywhere on the Internet that contain so many different ultra-controversial topics. The descriptive subtitle of my series was “A Historical Counter-Narrative of the Last One Hundred Years.”

These pieces naturally provoked an enormous outpouring of commentary, totaling more than five million of words, and much of it was highly critical. But after carefully considering the responses I feel quite confident that the vast, vast majority of my ultra-controversial claims were correct, at least to the degree of uncertainty with which I had originally expressed them. And even if only 5% of my analysis were accurate, I think the pillars of America’s current world-framework would be severely shaken.

At the time I was producing all of this controversial material, I obviously recognized that my articles were hardly likely to receive the heavy media coverage many of my previous writings had enjoyed, nor would I be invited to summarize my conclusions in the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal, as had regularly happened in the past. But I was very pleased to later receive flattering notes by several leading mainstream academic scholars, who praised my pieces for the important revelations they provided.

My assumption had been that although my important conclusions would initially be avoided rather than absorbed and accepted, over time this would change. I felt that I had effectively investigated and compiled such an enormous quantity of solidly-documented material, much of it never previously considered, that it would become increasingly impossible to ignore, especially given the hundreds of journalists and academics on my regular distribution list. So while I thought it might take a few years, my information would inevitably and inexorably be properly considered and gradually incorporated into the historical record.

But perhaps I should not have been so sanguine. After all, a major step along my personal path of enlightenment had been my discovery of Schanberg’s POW research, and the media had totally ignored that for a quarter-century, without even a hint of his decades of research appearing in his long and glowing NYT obituary. So if one of our most celebrated Vietnam War journalists—whose story became the Oscar-winning film The Killing Fields—could uncover the scandal of the century only to have it remain hidden, perhaps the establishment could hide anything.

And an even more unsettling example came to my attention just a few months ago. After reading the #1 Amazon bestseller by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. followed by a few weeks of careful investigation, I’d concluded that almost everything I’d always assumed I’d known about AIDS had probably been entirely wrong:

Unlike historical analysis, HIV/AIDS seemed a purely objective scientific issue, and Prof. Peter Duesberg ranked as one of the world’s foremost virologists. His shocking conclusions were later publicly endorsed by four Science Nobel Laureates, including both the researcher who had discovered the HIV virus and the renowned inventor of the PCR test. In the 1990s a noted Harvard professor had declared that the existing scientific scandal was far worse than the notorious Lysenko Affair of the Stalinist Russia, given the many hundreds of thousands of Americans who had died needless deaths as a consequence. Yet for thirty-five years these facts have remained hidden, and I only stumbled onto them quite by accident, as shocking a situation as I could possibly imagine.

I actually think that there is strong circumstantial evidence that the true facts surrounding HIV/AIDS are actually known or at least suspected within the journalistic community, but never publicly discussed. In late February, the Times published a long front-page hit-piece on Kennedy, attacking him on all sorts of different grounds. The writer, Adam Nagourney, was described as co-author of a history of the modern gay rights movement, and surely the AIDS epidemic would have constituted an absolutely central element of his research for that 2001 volume. But although the best-selling Kennedy book that prompted the article devoted nearly half its text to the incendiary claim that HIV/AIDS was merely a medical media hoax, Nagourney never even hinted at this controversy, strongly suggesting that he feared that Kennedy might well be correct and that certain doors should be kept firmly closed.

Discovering that four Science Nobel Laureates had been ignored for thirty-five years on an ultra-high-profile scientific matter completely punctured my remaining confidence that the truth will inevitably come out. If the media and political establishment could keep that hidden, what hope had my American Pravda series of breaking through in any reasonable time?

 

This was particularly relevant to my main recent investigative project. Exactly two years ago on April 21, 2020, I published a long article presenting my analysis on a topic of the most immediate relevancy, quite different from an alternative reconstruction of the JFK Assassination or the events of World War II.

According to our official statistics, the Covid epidemic has now killed a million Americans, and an unreleased report of the WHO estimates the worldwide body-count has reached some 15 million. Two years ago I set forth the strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the disease outbreak had been the blowback consequences of an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), surely as explosive an accusation as could possibly be made.

Yet despite the extensive evidence I presented both in that piece and in the series of articles that followed, virtually all discussion of this disturbing scenario has been completely absent even from the alternative media.

For example, just a few weeks ago I was invited onto the audio podcast of a writer for a somewhat fringe publication with strong conspiratorial tendencies, and he expressed considerable surprise at my thesis, saying he hadn’t previously encountered the claim that Covid might be an American bioweapon.

Just days after my original article ran and began to attract enormous traffic, our entire website was banned by Facebook and had all its pages deranked by Google, greatly reducing the ability of my analysis to get into wider circulation.

I have been sharply critical of the American media for at least the last couple of decades. But if someone had predicted a few years ago that a million Americans would die apparently as the result of an American biowarfare attack but that both the mainstream and the alternative media would totally ignore that reality, I would not have believed it possible.

On the other hand, when someone stands almost alone in articulating important ideas, there may be strong interest in such unique material. Just before the outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine war in late February, I did three Rumble video interviews presenting my Covid theories, and these have now been viewed more than 300,000 times.

So perhaps at some point, the truth will indeed out.

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  1. Perhaps some day Ron Unz will view the mRNA experiment as a contributing factor to his COVID-bioweapon theory. It’s a one-two punch.

    • Agree: The Alarmist
    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Anon
    , @JR Foley
  2. I feel quite confident that the vast, vast majority of my ultra-controversial claims are correct, at least to the degree of uncertainty with which I had originally expressed them. And even if only 5% of my analysis were accurate, I think the pillars of America’s current world-framework would be severely shaken.

    That’s a pretty big range there, from 5% to that “vast, vast majority”. I’d put you somewhere between 25 and 50% right.

    The Schanberg expose on John McCain was something I read all of your writings on. As someone who was thankfully not involved with anyone MIA in Vietnam, I had still heard of the traitorous actions of John McCain in this regard well before reading your articles, but you summed it up very well.

    As for the RFK, Jr. AIDS story, let me say this: Even as a young man who wasn’t particularly worried about it, I understood the politics that was going on by at least the late 1980s with the whole “doesn’t matter if you are gay or straight” lies to take the heat off the gay community. If it was obvious to me, it was likely obvious to lots of Americans. Secondly, RFK, Jr. obviously became a figure notorious to the Lyin’ Press when he came out against the Covid PanicFest and especially after he came out against mandatory vaccination. I’m not sure how you missed all that … nothing to do with your articles, but by all means, keep that head big.

    I think it’d be good for the American public to be able to read all of your stuff and make up it’s own mind. However, you are missing the biggest story of our time, right now. I’ll continue in another comment…

    • Replies: @GWashington
  3. repugnant says:

    The bio laboratories in Ukraine give a whole new insight in the COVID virus being a bio weapon made by Americans. I suggest history was to be played out differently with the unknowns that happened prior to the outbreak. The Maidan coup of 2014 was orchestrated by the Americans but a wrench was thrown into the mix with the election of Donald Trump 2 years later. Everything changed after that. The Ukraine war and the virus, I propose, was supposed to start at the same time. All the political clap trap going on in America about the “Russian Collusion”, the impeachments, the pee tapes, and with this the unexpected delay of Russia invading the Ukraine offset the step by step plans of the West. My only question is what’s next?

    • Agree: Rev. Spooner
    • Replies: @Abbybwood
  4. Dumbo says:

    The media couldn’t shut up about COVID for two years, but Ron says there is “silence” because his particular (and let’s say it, pretty unlikely) pet theory has been ignored, for obvious reasons.

    I don’t really care, as long as they shut up forever about COVID and don’t bring back masks, lockdowns and forced vaccinations. But I fear they will, just after the Ukrainian mess ends.

  5. Here’s some truth that needs to out, for you and lots of other panickers: You may well be onto something about the origin of the latest Oriental bug. You may not be (it’s nothing but a theory). However, that’s not nearly as important as how this one particular contagious disease has been USED, by the press and governments throughout the world to implement greatly increased Totalitarianism. They scared you into it too, Mr. Unz.

    [MORE]

    Maybe you will get back to me, or to your readers, some day, on the question of China’s handling of this virus, given recent developments. There are people starving in Shanghai due to LOCKDOWNs due simply to a political feud! People must be worried continuously in what color their health scores are, as the Orwellian software keeps track – they may have been in the same grocery store with someone positive and could then be taken to a quarantine camp at any time.

    THIS IS THE BIG STORY OF OUR TIME, RON UNZ. But, not a peep out of you.

    3 short videos – in Chinese – of the recent Totalitarianism in Shanghai (last one is Suzhou – 50 miles west)

    Covid-testing fish, chickens, cats, and passing trucks. First I thought the swiping of vehicles was a joke, but I found out a few days later that it is a standard procedure for incoming trucks with fees, 1,800 元 for small trucks and those who drive the big rigs pay 4,000 元 to get their rigs swiped. That is a significant amount, converting to \$283 and \$628 , respectively.
    Quick look at a quarantine camp. Remember, you don’t have to be sick. You don’t have to test positive. You get taken away when some computer SAYS you tested positive.
    Escape from Suzhou – the motion picture. Some go under the wall, some go over. The plot, acting, and production values aren’t in Great Escape territory, but this is real.

    Are you still envious, Ron Unz, of China’s great job in handling the pandemic?

    .

    PS: For those headed to the airport, you can leave those face diapers at home! There’s a decent lady Judge down there in Florida that ought to be on the Supreme Court…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  6. Karl1906 says:

    To quote Gonzalo Lira: “Where is Tiffany Dover?”

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  7. Chensley says:

    Thanks for all your work Ron. It’s much appreciated. The future owes you a huge debt of gratitude.

    • Replies: @sally1
  8. JWalters says:

    The clear implication is that the perpetrators of all these solidly proven crimes (JFK, 9/11, etc.) control the mainstream media, and much of the independent media. The mainstream media is controlled by owning it, and firing anyone who tries to dissent from the criminals’ narrative. The independent media is controlled by threats, such as John Bolton’s threat against the children of the head of the OPCW. If they can kill a president of the US in broad daylight and get away with it they can kill anyone.

    The longstanding, blanket censorship on the topic of Israel’s longstanding, ongoing apartheid crimes of ethnic cleansing, mass murder, land thefts, torturing children, etc. is a particularly stark example of their censorship. Certainly every reporter in the land is aware of Israel’s unending crimes, and they all self-censor. This tells us that Israel is a pet project of these criminals.

    Their long-range project is to consolidate control of the world under the pretense of creating peace through a New World Order. Everybody wants peace, so it’s the perfect cover for a project of totalitarian control. In reality, they are war profiteers, the most heinous of sociopathic monsters.
    War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    The breadth of topics they censor tells us the breadth of topics in which they are ciminally involved.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  9. Sir, the Establishment pulled off Darwin’s monkey hoax almost two centuries ago, which they have been brainwashing with the whole world starting from grade school. The Establishment managed to produce nuclear weapons and spread the technology all over after demoing their awesomeness on civilians of two cities. The Establishment has redefined both marriage and genders and is pushing this as human rights. Cosmetic plastic surgery of all sorts. Production of bioweapons. Etc. The world is under the spell of evil forces. Without moral restraint and fear of Divine retribution, the Establishment is capable of anything. They behave like gods. They decide who lives and who dies, who prospers who is to be impoverished, what is newsworthy what is propaganda, who is to be banned who rewarded, who is sanctioned who gets lethal aid.
    We are but strangers in this strange world. It’s greater to light a candle than despair of the darkness. Give peace a chance. All wars are civil wars because all men are of one blood. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. This Golden Rule alone is enough to solve most of humanity’s problems.

    • Agree: Emslander, David Homer
  10. Maybe Covid is an American bio-weapon. Sounds eminently plausible.

    But how can you honestly discuss anything having to do with the disease and its prevalence without addressing the absolute fact that we do not know what its prevalence is–if it has any prevalence at all.

    Why? Because the PCR test does not work. At all. As the CDC freely admits.

    Thus, maybe nobody got Covid. Maybe everybody did. There is no way to tell.

    “Excess death”, you counter? If you calculate on a long enough time-scale, for instance going back to the end of the War and tallying up “excess death” every year since then, you will find that there was no 15 million excess deaths. There was the normal amount of deaths during the epidemic. Except that nobody died of the flu. Interestingly.

    Until you address these most basic necessary matters, any discussion of bio-warfare must wait in the wings.

  11. Thank you, Ron Unz. Great work. I truly appreciate you and your articles. I find myself agreeing with you often, and even when I don’t, I acknowledge your intellect and solid arguments. I do think your ideas trickle out, and as such, the truth is disseminated, slowly perhaps, but still it is getting out there. Hopefully more and more people will listen, or just give your arguments chance, at the very least, before discarding. Thank you again.

    • Agree: Rich, Thomasina
  12. Tom Welsh says:

    Maybe it would be helpful to mention one of Robert A. Heinlein’s most penetratingly insightful aphorisms.

    “Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal”.
    – “Assignment in Eternity” (1953)

    You can meditate on that for hours. The basic thing Heinlein was saying is that humans use rational thinking as a tool to get what they want, rather than as a way of deciding what they should want. Rather as a chimp, who instinctively likes to eat bananas, can use a tool to pull down a banana hanging apparently out of reach.

    That helps to explain a lot of Mr Unz’s findings. We mostly start by wanting the banana, and then we use research, logic, and rhetoric to obtain it. We don’t do a lot of deep thinking about what we want and why we want it.

    • Replies: @Director95
  13. It would be wonderful if there were no taboos in science, history or any other subject, all areas of inquiry could be studied and discussed by adults in a civilized manner without suppression. The closest we ever got to that place was the United States or Western Europe in the mid 20th century. Today, the formerly freest places are turning into versions of Saudi Arabia or the former Soviet Union.
    Future civilization will wonder how we went from freedom to suppression in just a few short years without a shot being fired. They’d come to the conclusion was that it was just too many years of prosperity and freedom which made the population fat and lazy, which made them easy pickings for the communists who never really went away.

    • Agree: Automatic Slim
  14. Wikipedia has a page COVID-19 misinformation that describes “false” theories of COVID. The section “Misinformation regarding virus origin” lists the “US bioweapon” theory. This idea has been promoted as propaganda in China, Russia and the Middle East, and is widely believed in a number of other countries, including North Macedonia and Bulgaria which are not hostile to the USA:

    Theories blaming the USA have also circulated in the Philippines,[e] Venezuela[f] and Pakistan.[149] An October 2020 Globsec poll of Eastern European countries found that 38% of respondents in Montenegro and Serbia, 37% of those in North Macedonia, and 33% in Bulgaria believed the USA deliberately created COVID-19.[150][151]

    The page appears to be a place where it is permitted to add “alternative” theories, as long as they conform to Wikipedia’s policies and are plausibly dismissed. For example, the section “NCMI intelligence report” discusses the US report of sickness in Wuhan in November 2019, and dismisses the report as non-existent without mentioning the Israeli corroboration.

  15. The last time I tried to leave a comment on one of Mr. Unz’s articles about this subject the comment never appeared. So, I will tread more carefully this time, but try to say the same thing.

    My basic point is that the ‘American Bio Weapon Gone Wrong (or right?)’ theory is weaker than the ‘Covid was/is a psy-op’ theory.

    For the latter theory we can begin with previous ‘public health manipulations/psy ops that benefited BigPharma (including their masters at Blackrock and Vanguard) and EliteControlObjectives.

    These psy ops would include

    [MORE]

    1 the AIDS psy op, that Mr. Unz notes is a central part of RFKennedy’s recent exposé of BigPharma regulatory capture.

    2 increase in childhood vaxx programs and coverup of their harms

    3 previous ‘flu’ psy ops, exposed even in the State/Corporate media, including the 1976 swine flu and the 2009 H1N1

    Then we could mention, in terms of covid 19 psy op specifically:

    1 the ‘prepping’ of the psy-op withGates/WHO Event 201 and other ‘war games’ type preps

    2 the fact that a lead participant of this war game was the head of the Chinese CDC and author of the very first scientific journal article identifying Covid 19

    3 the fact of all the dodgy Wuhan videos and fear porn of Jan 2020

    4 the dodgy origins of the original PCR protocols coming from Germany

    5 the dodgy actions of the WHO at the same time

    6 the very important fear porn coming from Italy in Feb 2020

    7 at the same time, from the Diamond Princess Cruise ship, indications that covid 19 had a quite low Case Fatality Rate

    8 the very sudden unprecedented freedom killing lockdowns based on fear porn

    9 the demonization of repurposed drug protocols world wide in conjunction with

    10 immediate calls for the gene therapy medicines renamed as ‘vaccines’

    11 un-needed maskism, with no scientific basis

    12 censorship and suppression of alternative opinions from scientists, doctors and various political and social writers

    13 the mysterious disappearance of the flu

    14 the strange wild variations of covid danger depending on country

    15 the strange treatment or mistreatment of elderly people, especially those in nursing homes, worldwide

    16 the rollout of the vaxx complete with an unprecedented marketing campaign full of lies and omissions, and then the suppression of adverse effects

    17 the pernicious concept of asymptomatic transmission of a respiratory illness that was in fact disproven in the scientific literature, but which justified the freedom killing public health policies

    18 the strange ‘govt via decree’ that we saw world wide, an attack on democratic rule

    19 the clear drive towards a digital currency and international vaxx passport

    Finally, I’m sure I’m forgetting a lot, it’s all from the top of my head, a general consensus that in fact Covid 19 could have been either the flu, or a similar respiratory virus, and was NOT in fact a pandemic, that the excess deaths were partially a statistical manipulation using fraudulent PCR test interpretations, partially a result of lockdowns, partially a result of govt mandated lack of early treatment for a respiratory illness, partially a result of widespread obesity in certain countries, including the USA with its health system that punishes the poor.

    The above theory: ‘Covid was/is a worldwide psy op’ and NOT a pandemic, challenges Mr. Unz’s theory and we should all try and find which theory represents reality more accurately.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Thanks: Emil Nikola Richard
  16. Unlike historical analysis, HIV/AIDS seemed a purely objective scientific issue, and Prof. Peter Duesberg ranked as one of the world’s foremost virologists. His shocking conclusions were later publicly endorsed by four Science Nobel Laureates, including both the researcher who had discovered the HIV virus and the renowned inventor of the PCR test.

    The “researcher who had discovered the HIV virus” was Luc Montagnier, and Mr Unz’ article on the subject states:

    Moreover, we are told that as far back as the San Francisco International AIDS Conference of June 1990, Montagnier had publicly declared “the HIV virus is harmless and passive, a benign virus.”

    The theory that Montagnier actually proposed is that the HIV virus becomes more virulent if there is a co-infection with mycoplasma bacteria.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1990/06/22/researcher-sees-second-possible-cause-of-aids/ccb3874c-2b06-4e18-8323-179b09dcbff1/

    In an unusual three-hour session Wednesday night at the Sixth International Conference on AIDS here, Luc Montagnier, the French co-discoverer of HIV, presented data showing that a bacteria-like organism known as a mycoplasma spurs a slowly reproducing population of AIDS viruses into one that multiplies much faster — at least in cells growing in a dish. He suggested that in humans, mycoplasma infection turns an otherwise benign HIV infection into a disease.

    Some items on Montagnier’s Wikipedia page (e.g. “DNA teleportation”) suggest that he was willing to float his new ideas in public without first doing a sanity check. This is one way to promote discussion, but ideas introduced in this manner cannot be validated by an “appeal to authority” based on the speaker’s Nobel-Prize-winning status.

    In any case it is likely that Montagnier returned to the mainstream view. From the same page:

    The 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded to Montagnier and Françoise Barré-Sinoussi for the discovery of HIV. They shared the Prize with Harald zur Hausen, who discovered that human papilloma viruses can cause cervical cancer. Montagnier said he was “surprised” that Robert Gallo was not also recognized by the Nobel Committee: “It was important to prove that HIV was the cause of AIDS, and Gallo had a very important role in that. I’m very sorry for Robert Gallo.”

    Amusingly, Wikipedia has not followed the change in doctrine announced by Joe Biden in May 2021, and Montagnier’s page also states:

    During the COVID-19 pandemic, Montagnier promoted the conspiracy theory that SARS-CoV-2, the causative virus, was deliberately created and escaped from a laboratory. Such a claim has been rejected by other virologists. He has been criticised by other academics for using his Nobel prize status to “spread dangerous health messages outside his field of knowledge”.

    The main page on the lab-leak theory is even more forthright:

    The idea that the virus was released from a laboratory (accidentally or deliberately) appeared early in the pandemic. The theory gained popularity in America through promotion by conservative figures including president Donald Trump and other members of the Republican Party in the spring of 2020, fomenting tensions between the US and China. Politicians and media outlets widely dismissed it as a conspiracy theory.

  17. meamjojo says:

    The reality Ron is that none of the power brokers who control the media are going to give your writings much stock when it is surrounded with the zoo of anti-Semites, white supremacists nincompoops that you continue to allow to post here. You’re known by the company you keep.

    I believe you will find this somewhat related article of interest:
    ———–
    The Monopoly On Your Mind, Part 1: Consolidation Craze & Illusion of Choice
    Six companies control 90% of what you read, watch, and hear. Here’s why that’s dangerous.

    Rebecca Strong
    Apr 12, 2022
    https://rebeccastrong.substack.com/p/big-media-big-conflicts-of-interest

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Wokechoke
    , @Anonymous
  18. Yet despite the extensive evidence I presented both in that piece and in the series of articles that followed, virtually all discussion of this disturbing scenario has been completely absent…

    As I recall, the “extensive evidence” was essentially conjectural and circumstantial, pertaining to a phenomenon that was still in the early phase of unfolding, at a time when the Wuhan lab leak revelations were still taboo, and Fauci’s funding role of the lab and its gain-of-function research there had not yet been publicly revealed.

    The essential premise of the conjecture was that supposedly rogue US agents must have somehow been able to know at what time to release a dangerous virus in Wuhan, so as to inflict maximum adverse impact upon spreading weeks later, during the Chinese New Year 2020, yet even now there is still dispute about when the virus was actually brought into circulation. It is yet another example of presuming, ex post facto of course, that alleged perpetrators thought they had near-perfect foreknowledge regarding how a complex set of interactive events would eventually develop, in this case the rate of viral spread. However, rogue perpetrators with such expert knowledge must have also been able to assume the likely spread to other regions of the world. So these two notions are contradictory.

    The main supporting “evidence” was a selective interpretation of an uncorroborated media report appearing at ABC News and Israeli TV, not necessarily the most reliable of sources. The ABC News report even claimed that China was aware of the leak much earlier than was publicly acknowledged, contradicting the presumptive notion that the US knew about the release before China did. The US even denied the veracity of this report, and among 30 NATO countries purportedly briefed in advance in November 2019, none were known to have acted upon the alleged inside information.

    The big difference between the ad hoc and premature conjecture from two years ago and the revelations pertaining to John McCain, Holocaust Industry exaggerations, and the AIDS Hoax, which were already known a few decades before, is that the latter three had been thoroughly researched (in one case information was presented in a Toronto court – the Zundel Trial of 1985), yet they did not readily spread into the domain of common knowledge back then because the Internet had not yet been available to bypass the corporate media institutions.

  19. I remember being told that a rule of thumb for counsel was that juries would take the view that one lie proven was enough and the witness would be branded a liar. (OK it was obviously an oversimplification because some excuses might be allowed for some lies and there could be lots of liars on both or all sides).

    So, extrapolating to your American Pravda output I fear that a common reaction may be to brand you as having a tendency to like crank theories, especially if they can be seen to bear your personal stamp. The most obvious example is your undiminished enthusiasm for your Covid 19 theory which you keep on supporting with your own interpretation of the supposedly smoking gun report which most people, outside UR thread’s obsessives, would easily find other interpretations for and indeed prefer the simple answer that Intel operatives had ganged up to undermine Trump. As for the infections in Iran you haven’t even tried to test the alternative- and much simpler – superspreader hypothesis.

    Equally, I suggest that your cavalier way of moving glibly from the How of 9/11 (which you have asserted without detail has been overwhelmingly proven) to the Why may have put off otherwise willing allies. You virtually dismiss the possibility of the critical damage being done by “19 Arabs with Box cutters”, Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda having been behind it because ObL denied that he was just after it, and that a plane hit the Pentagon. Not just your conclusions but your insouciant way you argue for them may well have discredited you in the eyes of many.

    • Disagree: Rich
  20. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Iam afraid that might also be a false expectation. The bio weapon story is also a hoax to keep the vax train going. Imho there is no illness going on except what was formerly known as flu. The rest is just Media in action and doctors being soldiers and Slaves of their Training and Ego. The lie just has to be big enough to be believed in. Old but true saying it seems.

    • Agree: Emslander
  21. Emslander says:

    The problem with your bio-warfare blowback theory is that you can’t adequately identify the “smoking gun”. That would be the “rogue” official, who, as you have said, must be some high official in the Trump administration like Mike Pompeo. You also can’t identify how he could evade the very clear chain of military command that would normally have to be involved in the planning and execution of a world-changing act of violence.

    Sorry, but it doesn’t pass the believability tests.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz, meamjojo
    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    , @Notsofast
  22. gotmituns says:

    Anniversaries of Silence in the Media
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    This crap started with the jewish think tank, “Frankfurt School” in the 1920s who wanted to bring our culture down and they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. It’s not over though, it’s still ongoing every day.

    • Replies: @Matt Lazarus
  23. My topics had ranged very widely, including the JFK assassination, the 9/11 attacks, World War II and the Holocaust, Mossad assassinations, the Covid outbreak and biowarfare, HIV/AIDS, and most recently the underlying causes of the Russia-Ukraine war.

    The thing is that, on just about all of these topics, you came very late to the party, no? I mean to say, plenty of people figured out that the official narrative was wrong long before you did. Just as one example, your awakening on 9/11 seems to have come approximately 17 years (!) after the event.

    So, out of curiosity, I’m wondering whether you have ever grappled with the question of why other people could figure out these things so much faster than you did. And if, by some chance, you have grappled with the question, what conclusions did you draw?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Nodwink
  24. @Karl1906

    You could have a very long thread of such questions.

    How many underage Epstein nappies did Bill Clinton rape while partying with Jeffry?

  25. Bob P says:

    Unz.com is a can’t-miss site for me every day, and I’m always grateful for your insights.

    The only time I’ve ever disagreed with you was your seeming acceptance of the covid narrative apart from your unique claim that it was an American bioweapon. Even in this piece, for example, you cite the number of covid deaths as presented by the media you distrust so much. There is indisputable evidence that the number of cases and deaths have been magnified as much as 20 x by governments and media to justify the lockdowns and vaccine mandates.

    In any case, thank you for unz.com.

    • Agree: Kali, Thor Walhovd
  26. Rich says:
    @meamjojo

    Do they give RFK Jr’s writings much stock? Is he surrounded by a “zoo of anti-semites, White supremacists nincompoops”. He parties with the elite of DC and Hollywood, is he known by the company he keeps? It doesn’t matter who you hang out with, the mean girls who run the US establishment for its owners will kick you out of the cool clique the moment you disagree with them on any issue. It’s the reason why nonsensical theories take control of the establishment and are almost impossible to change. Children, for instance, shouldn’t be allowed to take puberty blockers when they’re too young to buy a pack of cigarettes.. Criminals should do hard time to keep them off the street and punish them for their crimes whether or not hey have dark skin. People should be allowed to associate freely with whomever they please. Say any of these at the next DC cocktail party and you’ll be hanging out back smoking Marlboros with the bad kids. The ‘elite’ believe only in uniformity of thought.

    • Replies: @ia
  27. Wokechoke says:
    @meamjojo

    The problem with your argument.

    The power brokers in media are mostly, if not all, Jewish.

    The problem with any argument is simple enough. Is it true? Does it fit the evidence?

    The theory that Israel helped to assassinate JFK is one of the most tantalising theories on the assassination. It’s simply never even discussed, yet it fits the evidence well enough, and is certainly more plausible than several of the wilder offerings that do get widespread coverage. It’s not like Israel doesn’t do assassinations in the context of nuclear policy and JFK did block their efforts to create an atomic weapon. He did get assassinated, and the assassin in turn was murdered by a Jewish rando. After he was assassinated the US began to approve Israeli demands with nukes.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  28. @obwandiyag

    My mild case of Coid was diagnosed by RAT 4 fays after I had dinner with someone who tested positive the next day. What’s wrong with the RAT?
    As to the excess deaths calculations Ron is obviously right not to go back in time to days of lower life expectancy almost worldwide and to insist on comparing like with like.

  29. @Jonathan Revusky

    He has told us. He was doing other things and not reading enough about them to get over the first hurdle of finding reason to disbelieve the standard accounts. He wouldn’t have found it sufficient reason to read one of your emissions or (say) Richard Garge’s. His friend General Odom would have been another matter: prima face to be believed.

  30. @Achmed E. Newman

    Not my [MORE] tag, but fair enough. It has 3 links to 3 Chinese videos from Shanghai and the city of Suzhou (50 miles west). Officials are covid-swiping trucks (at driver’s expense \$280 – \$630), chickens, fish, and kitty cats. People are getting put into quarantine camps, often based on computer glitches (“hey, it’s just my job”). Others are climbing and tunneling under walls to get out.

    Nothing to see there, under the [MORE] tag. Pay no attention! All is well!!!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  31. Mr Unz:

    I am very grateful for your web site and of the controversial subjects that you cover. My main criteria for “alternative news” web sites is “Do they condemn both political parties equally?” – since, in my opinion, both parties are rotten to the core.

    I am a 70-year-old retired industrial electrician (United Auto Workers Journeyman Electrician) and only began my efforts in getting “educated” as to the truth about happenings in the USA and around the world around 10 years ago. Prior to that, I was busy working, saving money and trying “to get ahead.” Now that I am retired, I have become even more committed to becoming “educated.”

    I do not watch ANY television, nor do I read any newspapers or “news magazines.” I do NOT trust the mainstream media to tell the complete “story” on any subject. I have come to the conclusion that almost everything that “happens” in both the USA and around the world involves a scam and/or a conspiracy or a combination of the two. Nothing is as it seems. NOTHING.

    I very much wish that you or one of your many contributors would look into the death of Walter Reuther, who, at the time of his tragic death, was the president of the United Auto Workers union. He was involved in two plane crashes in a year’s time – the second one being the fatal one. To date, I have found very little writing on this subject. Like JFK, RFK, MLK, Jr., Malcolm X, James Hoffa, Olof Palme and Dah Hammarskjöld, I believe that Walter Reuther was killed by “them.”

    Walter Reuther was an incorruptible person and unlike now, the United Auto Workers union had absolutely NO corruption. Reuther did not only look out for UAW members; he looked out for ALL American workers. Next to John F. Kennedy, Walter Reuther was the most admired American in all of Europe.

    Thank you.

  32. Charles says:

    In our time (Ron would correctly say “actually, in any time”) the approved message cannot be countered publicly. That’s why TUR is the most important site on the Internet; not so much because of Anglin or Sailer, but for the books and the Pravda series. Richard Fuerle’s Erecetus Walks Amongst Us, available right here in the “controversial” HTML category, is more thoroughly banned than The Turner Diaries; if you read it you’ll see why.

  33. @gotmituns

    I’m just wondering what exactly you’re referring to when you speak of “our culture.” In their more accessible writings, the Frankfurt School were basically criticizing/attacking American consumerism, American television and Hollywood movies, and state of near-permanent distraction (distracted to distraction by distraction) in which they believed Americans spent their lives. They also had a more complex “philosophical” argument about the Enlightenment–that it promoted the notion that science and belief in progress were leading to less and less inquiry into ethics and, on another level, to ever more efficient means of destroying peoples (and, as we have seen, whole countries). Some believed that their real target was the Soviet Union and it is well known that Herbert Marcuse, a leading member of the group, worked for the OSS.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
    , @geokat62
  34. @obwandiyag

    Thank you, Obw. Your comments have changed greatly for the better over the last 1/2 a year.

    Regarding excess deaths, the aging of the US population has NOT been taken into account by the CDC in creating the “normal year” curves. Then, there are the other factors, such as people who were denied treatment (cancer treatments, cardiac procedures, etc.) for months, if not a whole year, for serious ailments due to the Panic and died sooner.

    This million extra deaths number is highly questionable.

  35. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    I have as of late been quite critical and in opposition here and spoken my mind accordingly. I think that it is time to offer my very genuine appreciation for the privilege of being able to speak my mind freely even in times when we disagree. For that I can not thank you enough, Ron Unz.

    “If Men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter, which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences, that can invite the consideration of Mankind; reason is of no use to us — the freedom of Speech may be taken away — and, dumb & silent we may be led, like sheep, to the Slaughter.”
    ~George Washington

  36. gotmituns says:
    @Matt Lazarus

    I’ve heard a bunchofcrap before but that takes the cake.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  37. @Tom Welsh

    Don’t kid yourself – we have many people in America who are very smart and do some deep thinking. Ron is one of them. What we lack is a political class strong and brave enough to execute intelligent plans. Trump talked a good talk, but the exection was plainly weak. He was not ruthless enough.

    So what happens next? The USA is now, and has been since 9/11, in crisis reaction mode. There was some Chicago political hack who said it best, “During a crisis jump on the tolley and take where you want to go.” Is that the best way to run the world’s most powerful nation? Of course not, so what do we do now? First and most important – we must return dominate political power to a party that is not Anti-white and global-homo and open borders.

    Does that political party even exist? And is that our key problem. Please rationalize this one for me.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
    , @Anonymous
  38. My hat off to Maestro Ron Unz… thank you!

  39. @Achmed E. Newman

    able to read all of your stuff and make up it’s own mind.

    It’s “its”, not “it’s”. There is a difference between the two words.

  40. @Dumbo

    I don’t really care, as long as they shut up forever about COVID and don’t bring back masks, lockdowns and forced vaccinations. But I fear they will, just after the Ukrainian mess ends.

    According to the media, we’re currently experiencing a fifth (or is it sixth?) wave of Covid right now. They’re doing their best to hype it, but the NPCs are so fixated on Ukraine that they’re not paying attention.

    I think they made a big mistake going all in on crisis mode with Ukraine. They didn’t realize that normies can only focus on one crisis at a time. Other than hypochondriacs, no one fears Covid anymore. They may try to bring back mandates, but there will be much more resistance and states like Florida and Texas will just outright refuse to go along with it.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  41. Agent76 says:

    Jul 23, 2020 Heated Vaccine Debate – Kennedy Jr. vs Dershowitz

    His reputation as a resolute defender of the environment and children’s health stems from a litany of successful legal actions. He received recognition for his role in the landmark victory against Monsanto last year, as well as in the DuPont Case that inspired the movie “Dark Waters” (2019).

    Jan 6, 2021 Vaxxed v. Unvaxxed: Lawsuit Seeks to Protect Americans From Discrimination Based on Vaccination Status

    In a federal complaint filed last month in the U.S. District Court of California, constitutional litigators Greg Glaser and Ray Flores presented results of a pilot study showing unvaccinated adults and children are healthier than their vaccinated counterparts.

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaxxed-unvaxxed-lawsuit-protect-americans-from-vaccination-status-discrimination/

    • Thanks: meamjojo
  42. PJ London says:

    The remarks were apparently made by Swinton, then the preeminent New York journalist (Contributor – Editor NYT), probably one night in 1880. Swinton was the guest of honour at a banquet given him by the leaders of his craft. Someone who knew neither the press nor Swinton offered a toast to the independent press. Swinton outraged his colleagues by replying:

    “There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.
    There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.

    The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?

    We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”

    • Thanks: Rich, Levtraro
  43. @GWashington

    Thank you, GW. It’s not that I don’t know the difference, but it was a typical homophone error. (I’ll write out things with the sound in my head, but the spelling of the wrong homophone, quite often.)

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  44. sally1 says:
    @Chensley

    I think RON, you will find that those you wish your content to reach can not read with understanding. You are talking to them in a foreign language.. There is a two sentence 20 word limit on the minds of those whose thinking is a response to what they believe; as they somehow block from entry to their mind, any evidence which challenge either the beliefs or the belief derived thoughts. These people think in virtuals to them nothing is real, not even life.

    A series of captioned pictures with words in sound formats are needed because somehow pictures and sound [do not replace, but] over lay the belief patterns, while printed words read in silence, the essence of knowledge retention, just get blocked out of the consideration.

    Your articles are great,, well researched and 1st order journalism, which cannot be heard by modern audiences Modern audiences do not comprehend words and cannot link words into comprehensions that produce meaning. Modern aaudiences demand near wordless images..or warlord games like trial and error learning forced into carrot in front of the donkey <=reward systems in order to associate words into understanding and meaning into self-useful context.
    On another of your articles I tried to get you to take a look at the behavioral, psychological, biological and genetic basis for what I call the elements and conditions that invoke or allow facts and explanations to overlay long established beliefs(not facts) or thoughts based on belief(not facts),. I observe that images and sound are sometimes successful to accomplish this overlay, and that no member of a modern audience is going to spend any time reading your articles or listening to your contributions unless and until they first have their beliefs overlain with contrary to belief content. Without that overlay, you are whistling downwind to those you want to want to hear your signals.

  45. @Johnny Smoggins

    I see it differently, Johnny. I think governments and the Lyin’ Press are GLAD to have switched, likely purposefully, the one BIG STORY that people can follow from the Covid PanicFest to this Ukraine/Russia thing.

    IMO, they realized that people had gotten sick of the whole PanicFest, had seen too many contradictions out of the EXPERTS, had successfully resisted mandatory vaccination (with partial help from the SCROTUS), and were not complying as before. It was the Ottawa protest movement that put the real fear in them. They were scared they’d lose control completely and that it would spread far and wide. There WAS, in fact, an American trucker convoy, but most of you have probably heard jack squat about it.

    Therefore, big media and governments decided to quickly and smoothly segue into a different big story. In early March, Peak Stupidity answered the question “Is the Russia/Ukraine War another piece of Infotainment?” in the affirmative, though tentatively at that point.

    It’s another BIG distraction from the real issues facing this country, a ramped-up immigration invasion from the south – at a 3 million a year rate!! – Hispanics, Africans, Chinese, anybody and everybody, and the the financial shitshow to come in the nearer future than it would have been before the latest round of money-printing.

    But, “Hey, look, Americans, squirrel!”

  46. My topics had ranged very widely, including the JFK assassination, the 9/11 attacks, World War II and the Holocaust, Mossad assassinations, the Covid outbreak and biowarfare, HIV/AIDS, and most recently the underlying causes of the Russia-Ukraine war.

    …and Moon landing hoax.

  47. Whether a lot or a few have heard, Mr. Unz, I think you deserve credit for having said it. And some have heard, certainly.

  48. @obwandiyag

    There’s a fairly well-documented phenomenon in which the various cold and flu viruses interfere with each other in the body, which is why people hardly ever get sick with both at the same time. And of course the bundle of things called ‘the common cold’ include coronaviruses. So the “flu disappeared” observation isn’t as much of a smoking gun as I thought it was at first.

    But it works both ways. The real story could be that half of the coronavirus deaths were actually influenza, or any other percentage (from 0% to 100%). We just don’t know, because the diagnosing and recording data isn’t reliable, and is subject to so much manipulation and hysteria. It bothers me more that so many people are absolutely certain, despite so many reasons to be skeptical.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
    , @Emslander
  49. MEH 0910 says:

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/former-intelligence-officials-citing?s=r


    [MORE]

  50. Muggles says:

    While I am not familiar with all of the ignored articles you cite, and am skeptical about some (no conclusive evidence of American POWs being still held in Vietnam has surfaced, with DNA etc.) your main point is valid.

    There is considerable evidence that stories which raise important questions are intentionally ignored or buried by various supposed media and alleged journalists, editors and media moguls.

    There is no good excuse for banning discussion of controversial subjects. The sunlight of open discussion and argumentation, evidence, etc. is the solution to controversies.

    Historians encounter this all the time, and controversies remain unresolved.

    With the rise of the Internet and related publication/video/audio resources, there is no longer the excuse of “resource limitation” in addressing controversies.

    Unz is and remains a hero to defenders of free speech and honest debate. Thanks.

  51. And I thought that the notion of the pandemic being the result of an artificial pathogen, brought to China from elsewhere was not an opinion in question but an established fact.

    I think that it requires no proof, being the most logical explanation of the state of affairs, considering all the circumstances. At least in Russia it had been presented on TV, on the talk show programs.

    You would be more than welcome on RT, Mr Unz.

  52. @Joe Paluka

    Future civilization will wonder how we went from freedom to suppression in just a few short years without a shot being fired.

    The ban placed on scientific research related to race versus intelligence probably has more to do with it than anything else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  53. Treg says:

    There is a fundamental importance of “action” to being tied to something “making the news”, is crucial to news becpming “now thats News!”…. News is HAPPENING.

    The sad fact is, NO ACTION has followed any of these insightful revelations. No group of veterans surrounded John McCain at an airport held him hostage for days on end until he confirmed and confessed his crimes and lies. In short, Nothing Has Happened to John McCain or Fauci or anyone. We need to start making things happen, soon and with great force. For example the demand for vaxx passports was met with a trucker blockade. Then the freezing and taking of bank accounts was met with WHAT ACTION? Nothing, this no news and you can bet it will be done again.

    The complete lack of even a short list of possible wise actions to take at the end of an article, leaves those upon reading it suddenly “want to do something with this new information”… but soon slowly sliding back into their day just end up just standing around waiting for others to “do something” and in effect, “make it news”. Notice the applause of people on planes taking off their masks on planes. With such numbers, its shameful we are such sheep.

    And I say this as I take of my shoes and submit to a nude body scan to board a plane and at least 3/4 of us think this is deeply wrong. The question of the correct action to take, is a bigger problem then you might think. The 1970s saw Palestinians hijacking planes, did those actions help their cause? I would say no. So figuring out the right action to take is just as important if not more important than the big reveals found inside American Series. Many of us want to be the hero and take action, but we are wise enough that it must be both effective and news worthy action to change the game. What action to take, thats a bigger question that we can no longer not address.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
  54. @Wizard of Oz

    Dunce of Oz (Doz) writes:

    I remember being told that a rule of thumb for counsel was that juries would take the view that one lie proven was enough and the witness would be branded a liar

    Well then, where does leave you Doz – seeing as you’ve been caught lying on countless occasions ?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  55. geokat62 says:
    @Matt Lazarus

    In their more accessible writings, the Frankfurt School were basically criticizing/attacking American consumerism, American television and Hollywood movies, and state of near-permanent distraction…

    You must’ve read the Hebrew version of the book.

    Here’s how one observer characterized the Authoritarian Personality’s goal:

    Social critic Christopher Lasch argued that by equating mental health with left-wing politics and associating right-wing politics with an invented “authoritarian” pathology, the book’s goal was to eliminate antisemitism by “subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy—by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum”.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality

  56. Dutch Boy says:
    @Sollipsist

    My bout with Covid convinced me that it could indeed kill plenty of people. I am an old guy but reasonably healthy and non-obese but was fairly ill. My main curiosity about the death rate from Covid was how many died of the virus vs. the treatment for the virus. We know about the ventilator-caused deaths but there are those who claim that many were killed by Remdesevir, which was the FDA’s drug of choice for Covid. There is also the question of fatalities caused by the mRNA vaccines. Many were documented on the VAERS system which is reputed to capture only 1-10% of reactions.. Of course, as you have noted, there is little reliable data on this question and the health authorities have zero interest in providing any. The hysteria also included hysterical opposition to any non-officially approved treatments, even those endorsed by clinicians at a time when there were no approved drugs or vaccines.

  57. Tiska says:

    Russia and China must have this information, what they make of it is not in view, leaves one to think about our current state of war…

  58. Chris Moore says: • Website

    All of your research and “controversial” discoveries point to one simple conclusion: Empire is actually ((Empire)), and has been since the ((Cousinhood)) infiltrated the Brits and then the Anglosphere with their epic Zionist racket.

  59. For the history of our race, and each individual’s experience, are sewn thick with evidences that a truth is not hard to kill, and that a lie well told is immortal. – from Mark Twain’s “Advice to Youth.”

  60. @Emslander

    We know with varying but fairly high degrees of certainty that the US biowar arsenal has been used in anger many times. Start with Nicholson Baker’s Baseless , Graeme MacQueen’s The 2001 Anthrax Deception, and Dave Chaddock’s This Must Be the Place if you’re interested in biowar history. Bottom line: Americans have attacked Korea, China, Cuba, Russia, Eastern Europe, and Zimbabwe with biological weapons. And these are just the ones we know about.

    It seems that most US biowar attacks, including the 2001 neocon attack on Senators Daschle and Leahey among others, are conducted as deniable covert operations outside the normal chain of command. That would presumably also be true for the attacks on Wuhan and Qom.

    • Agree: Biff
    • Thanks: Thor Walhovd
    • Replies: @Emslander
  61. Sparkon says:

    It seems to me transporting viable samples of a highly contagious coronavirus halfway around the world would not be a simple undertaking for a rogue player planning to make an attack with that kind of bioweapon. I don’t think Ron Unz has gone into the specific mechanics of his theorized plot.

    How did Mr. Mustard get the candlestick into the kitchen? How did Ron’s rogue player acquire SARS-CoV-2 virions, transport viable samples to China, and covertly release them there so they would infect others without infecting himself?

    The current understanding seems to be that COVID-19 is spread primarily by aerosol transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus when infectious virions are expelled from the lungs of an infected person by coughs, sneezes, yawns, shouts. singing, talking and probably even normal respiration. The virions ride in droplets and aerosols expelled by the lungs, which themselves provide a warm, dark, moist environment for the virus to replicate, and an easy way for it to spread.

    It may be there are additional paths for COVID-19 transmission. Whatever the case, it seems unlikely that viable virions capable of spreading the disease can survive very long outside a protected environment.

    I don’t know the final word on the time frame for the viability of SARS-CoV-2 on various surfaces or materials, called fomites, but it seems plausible that one could, with poor hand hygiene, pick up the virus from a shopping cart handle, keypad, or even recently-stocked items on the shelves at your market, and transport virions to the mouth or nose with a careless touch.

    So I suppose it is plausible that Ron’s rogue actor smeared some little pathogenic blob in some busy area, after keeping it alive for perhaps a day or two in a special test tube or vial that he was able to keep at just the right temperature during his journey to China, until the moment of release was at hand…

    Of course, Hollywood would probably give us a slick and wicked-looking perfume atomizer with which the rogue player would release clouds of the deadly pathogen into the air, while the villain’s dastardly Bwaa Haa Haa laugh echoed on the set.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Iris
    , @anon
    , @Dumbo
  62. Mefobills says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    The mRNA is synthetic, and according to report below, it stays in your body for a long time.

    methyl-pseudouridine,

    https://peterlegyel.wordpress.com/2021/12/20/unintended-consequences-of-mrna-shots/

    What’s more, the synthetic RNA in the mRNA vaccines contains a nucleotide called methyl-pseudouridine, which your body cannot break down, and the RNA is programmed to trigger maximum protein production. So, we’re looking at completely untested manipulation of RNA.

    It is not identical to the spike protein mRNA that SARS-Cov-2 produces. It’s been significantly altered to avoid being metabolized by your body.

    Manufacturers initially guessed the synthetic RNA might survive in the human body for about six months. A more recent investigation found the spike protein persisted in recovered COVID patients for 15 months.

    15 MONTHS!

    As explained by Dr. Peter McCullough,15 this means that after your first shot, your body will produce spike protein for at least 15 months. But, when you get shot No. 2 a few weeks later, that shot will cause spike protein production to go on for 15 months or longer. With shot No. 3 six months after that, you produce spike protein for yet another 15 months.

    With regular boosters, you may never rid your body of the spike protein. All the while, it’s wreaking havoc with your biology. McCullough likens it to “a permanent install of an inflammatory protein in the human body,”

    As far as I can tell, the Chinese have not authorized mRNA type shots, especially Moderna or Pfizer.

    • Thanks: SunBakedSuburb
  63. Ron Unz says:
    @Sparkon

    It seems to me transporting viable samples of a highly contagious coronavirus halfway around the world would not be a simple undertaking for a rogue player planning to make an attack with that kind of bioweapon. I don’t think Ron Unz has gone into the specific mechanics of his theorized plot.

    Actually, I’ve provided this information numerous times, but I suppose I might as well do so again.

    First, here’s the general outline of the hypothetical scenario, involving rogue elements of the Trump Administration:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-george-orwells-virus-lab-leak/#outline-of-the-hypothetical-biowarfare-attack-scenario

    And here’s a previous comment of mine describing the possible mechanics of the actual attack:

    I’m hardly a biowarfare expert, but I very much doubt that. America has spent \$100 billion over the years developing bioweapons, and I’m sure at least a little of that money was allocated to producing lots of surreptitious release-devices, perhaps along the lines of the ones in James Bond films.

    Perhaps the entire viral load was just contained in a couple of simple spray-devices, such as an asthma inhalers, and just casually sprayed onto various surfaces or confined locations by the operatives while they were sightseeing around Wuhan along with the thousands of other foreign military visitors. The food stalls of that Seafood Market that was one of the early epicenters of the outbreak might have been among the targets. Or maybe the devices could be left somewhere with a timed-release mechanism.

    Remember, we’re not talking about some deadly nerve gas, just an undetectable virus whose release wouldn’t be noticed by anyone for six or seven weeks, until large numbers of individuals began to feel a little sick. And the operatives were young and healthy, so they themselves would have had a 0% chance of dying even if they were careless enough to accidentally infect themselves, though I’d assume they washed their hands pretty thoroughly and might even have been isolated once they got back to the US. Keep in mind, Covid isn’t an anti-personnel bioweapon, it’s an anti-economy bioweapon

    When you spend seventy years and \$100 billion creating the world’s largest biowarfare program, I assume you’ve developed all sorts of training exercises and standard protocols for this sort of situation.

    If you haven’t already done so, you really should read the discussion we published in early 2020 by a retired 40-year veteran of American biodefense:

    https://www.unz.com/article/was-coronavirus-a-biowarfare-attack-against-china/

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/podcast-interview-geopolitics-empire/#comment-5164130

    • Replies: @Emslander
  64. geokat62 says:

    Fundamental flaw, in my view, with the “bio warfare attack on China (and Iran)” hypothesis…

    We live in a global system in which economic and financial systems are highly integrated. For example, the brain trust of (((Wall St. Inc))) decided decades ago that offshoring virtually all of heartland America’s manufacturing jobs to China (and IT jobs to India) was a very good idea. They also thought it a good idea to borrow trillions of dollars from China to underwrite all the treasury bonds required to inject liquidity into a fundamentally broken economic system.

    So, the hypothesis that a “rogue group of neocons” would attack another country – one that produces the lion’s share of the goods consumed by your own population and that underwrites a significant proportion of your debt – is very unconvincing, to say the least.

    We no longer live in a world in which the top competing countries are pursuing mercantilist trade policies, where a military attack on one of them would have little to no negative blowback on your own country.

    In short, you shoot your largest trading partner, you shoot yourself in your own foot.

    • Replies: @dimples
    , @RoatanBill
  65. How did Mr. Mustard get the candlestick into the kitchen?

    This part gets a LOL.

    The rest not so much.

    When the agencies do an op every single person’s task is informed by need to know. When it evolves to sufficient complexity there may not even be one single person in the loop the loop who knows all of what went down. That is how you get a surprise reaction from George Bush on 11 Sep 2001. He knew something big was going down and he had no clue just how big.

    • Replies: @lydia
  66. Notsofast says:
    @Emslander

    “rogue” official……john bolton attended event 201 a few weeks after being fired and was no longer in any government position at the time, why? bolton and the rest of the bush administration neocon turds are all rogue officials (along with the obama administration neocon turds).

    as far as the idea of the clear chain of military command, remember the minot air force base nuke incident where 6 nukes were loaded and flown out of minot, outside of the chain of command. all the airmen involved ended up dieing in mysterious car and motorcycle accidents as well as 2 suicides. these 6 airmen including the pilot all died within a month or two. word has it that this was done on the orders of dick cheney and when the ground crew in louisiana noticed that there were live nukes on the tarmac the shit hit the fan and the crew had to be eliminated.

    the chain of command starts and ends with the zionist neocon criminals and their cia ratfuckers.

    • LOL: Emslander
  67. phil says:

    An amazing presentation for the United Nations that was blacked out by US media–

    https://WWW.INDIANPUNCHLINE.COM/MIGRATORY-BIRDS-OF-MASS-DESTRUCTION/

    APRIL 21, 2022 BY M. K. BHADRAKUMAR
    Migratory birds of mass destruction

    [MORE]

    The Albatross, famous migratory bird, is also a love bird. It is known for being monogamous, forming long-term bond with one partner that is rarely broken. Mated pairs never split up until one bird dies.

    The UN Security Council held an extraordinary event on April 6 under the rubric Arria Formula Meeting on Biological Security regarding the biological activities in countries including Ukraine. Predictably, the US and UK representatives didn’t show up at the event and the western media also blacked out the proceedings. But that does not detract from the profound significance of what transpired.

    The highlight of the Security Council proceedings lasting over two hours was the disclosure by General Igor Kirillov, chief of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Forces of the Russian Armed Forces, that Washington is creating biological laboratories in different countries and connecting them to a unified system.

    He said the US has spent more than \$5 billion on military biological programs since 2005 and detailed that in territories bordering Russia and China alone, about 60 facilities have been modernised during this period. The Ukrainian network of laboratories is designed to conduct research and monitor the biological situation consisting of 30 facilities in 14 populated locations.
    Highly sensitive materials from the Ukrainian biological laboratories were exported to the US in early February just before the Russian special operation began, and the rest were ordered to be destroyed lest they fell into Russian hands. But the cover-up was only partially successful. Indeed, Russia is in possession of highly incriminating evidence.

    Previously also, Russia had released a number of documents related to the biological military activities of the Pentagon, which pointed toward a worldwide project to set up biological laboratories in rival countries with the goal of developing targeted viral weapons against those countries.

    The proceedings of the Security Council conference on April 6 are in the public domain and are accessible.

    Russia has made specific allegations, pointing its finger at:
    • Pentagon funding for the bio-labs in Ukraine;
    • Location of these bio-labs(not only in Ukraine but in 36 countries around the world);
    • Diseases and epidemics on which research work is going on, focusing on the means for their release, the countries where they are being tested (even without the knowledge of the governments of these countries); and, of course,
    • Experiments relating to coronavirus (and bats used to transmit this virus).
    However, the US has so far point-blank refused to accept any supervision and verification of such incriminatory evidences and has stonewalled the demand for a verification mechanism. It is unlikely that the US will permit an international verification process that holds the potential to expose it as indulging in crimes against humanity — although there are appropriate frameworks in place including the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) and the UN, to hear the clarifications from the relevant country in a fair and impartial manner.

    A mind-boggling “discovery” that Russian forces in Ukraine stumbled upon is the use of numbered birds by the Pentagon-funded labs. This almost falls out of science fiction and Sir Alfred Hitchcock could have made an epic movie out of it where deception mixes with innocence and man’s cruelty to nature becomes unbearably grotesque. The project works like this:

    To begin with, the Pentagon accesses the scientific data available with environmental specialists and zoologists after studying the migration of birds and observing them throughout the seasons, relating to the path these birds take each year on their seasonal journey from one country to another and even from one continent to another.

    On the basis of this data, groups of migratory birds are caught, digitised and capsules of germs are attached to them that carry a chip to be controlled through computers. They birds are then released to the flock of the migratory birds in those target countries toward which the US intelligence has malevolent intentions.

    Of course, these migratory birds travel great distances. The wandering albatross, for instance, is known to migrate at least 8500 km eastward across the South Pacific to the coast of South America, and many shy albatrosses migrate westward across the Indian Ocean to the coast of South Africa.
    During the long flight of the birds that have been digitised in the Pentagon bio-labs, their movement is monitored step by step by means of satellites and the exact locations are determined. The idea is that if the Biden Administration (or the CIA) has a requirement to inflict harm on, say, Russia or China (or India for that matter), the chip is destroyed when the bird is in their skies.

    Plainly put, kill the bird carrying the epidemic. Sadly, my mind goes back to the novel by the American author Harper Lee To Kill a Mocking Bird, the haunting story of innocence destroyed by evil.

    To return to reality, once the “digitised” bird is killed and the capsule of germs it carries is released, the disease spreads in the “X” or “Y” country. It becomes a highly cost-effective method of harming an enemy country without any need of war or coup d’état or colour revolution.

    The Russians have made the shocking claim that they are actually in possession of such migratory birds digitised in the Pentagon’s bio-labs.

    International law expressly forbids the numbering of migratory birds because they freely criss-cross the blue sky and air of other countries. By supplying them with germs, these birds become weapons of mass destruction. What human ingenuity! But the US enjoys total immunity from international law.

    The bottom line is that only the US intelligence — and President Biden, perhaps, if he remembers — would know where all humans have been infected so far in this century by the Birds of Mass Destruction. Was Ebola that devastated Africa a test case and precursor of things to come?

    What about Covid-19, which is known to have originated from funded laboratories that were administered by the US? It is very likely that the US might have used migratory birds to kill Chinese citizens. Clearly, the US in its desperation to reverse its global decline is pulling out all the stops to restore its hegemony in a world order that is inexorably moving toward multipolarity.

    • Thanks: Notsofast, Thor Walhovd
  68. Iris says:
    @Sparkon

    It seems to me transporting viable samples of a highly contagious coronavirus halfway around the world would not be a simple undertaking for a rogue player

    You would be surprised what the NeoCons what are actually up to.

    The UN Security Council held an extraordinary event on April 6 under the rubric Arria Formula Meeting on Biological Security regarding the biological activities in countries including Ukraine.

    The highlight of the Security Council proceedings lasting over two hours was the disclosure by General Igor Kirillov, chief of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Forces of the Russian Armed Forces, that Washington is creating biological laboratories in different countries and connecting them to a unified system.[..]

    A mind-boggling “discovery” that Russian forces in Ukraine stumbled upon is the use of numbered birds by the Pentagon-funded labs. This almost falls out of science fiction and Sir Alfred Hitchcock could have made an epic movie out of it where deception mixes with innocence and man’s cruelty to nature becomes unbearably grotesque. The project works like this:

    To begin with, the Pentagon accesses the scientific data available with environmental specialists and zoologists after studying the migration of birds and observing them throughout the seasons, relating to the path these birds take each year on their seasonal journey from one country to another and even from one continent to another.

    On the basis of this data, groups of migratory birds are caught, digitised and capsules of germs are attached to them that carry a chip to be controlled through computers. They birds are then released to the flock of the migratory birds in those target countries toward which the US intelligence has malevolent intentions.

    During the long flight of the birds that have been digitised in the Pentagon bio-labs, their movement is monitored step by step by means of satellites and the exact locations are determined. The idea is that if the Biden Administration (or the CIA) has a requirement to inflict harm on, say, Russia or China, the chip is destroyed when the bird is in their skies.

    The Russians have made the shocking claim that they are actually in possession of such migratory birds digitised in the Pentagon’s bio-labs.

    International law expressly forbids the numbering of migratory birds because they freely criss-cross the blue sky and air of other countries. By supplying them with germs, these birds become weapons of mass destruction.

    The bottom line is that only the US intelligence — and President Biden, perhaps, if he remembers — would know where all humans have been infected so far in this century by the Birds of Mass Destruction. Was Ebola that devastated Africa a test case and precursor of things to come?

    What about Covid-19, which is known to have originated from funded laboratories that were administered by the US? It is very likely that the US might have used migratory birds to kill Chinese citizens. Clearly, the US in its desperation to reverse its global decline is pulling out all the stops to restore its hegemony in a world order that is inexorably moving toward multipolarity.

    https://www.indianpunchline.com/migratory-birds-of-mass-destruction/

    The proceedings of the UNSC are available in the public domain:

  69. Emslander says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Lots a’ presumin’ there, Amos.

    That’s not what Unz describes in his theory and covert deniability is still done in the chain of command. No one, not even deep operatives, could have taken the action in the Unz theory on their own hook. The Unz theory involved the military and I’m sure that someone above field grade would have had to have received an order that they could attribute to the NSC in some way. Too many backs would have to have been covered.

    • LOL: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  70. Mac_ says:

    – short reply on director95 comment number 37., which was responding to comment 12. By framing response only in terms of the schemer’s false paradigms, i.e. ‘political’ class’ or waiting for or wanting some other phony ‘party’ is restricting thought to only -their false limits.

    – response on dumbo comment 4., fear feeds the bad schemes of others. People are dog-trained by false systems to not share with others we choose, because it can be energy. They want us bowing to their plastic boxes, tv, radio, phones, or following fake groups, because it sucks energy, as they push more fear. The false smiley chitchat is distraction between fearmongering and pushing dictators.

    What people aren’t getting is those in the schemes are individuals, who want the same sick things, and also scheme as a gang, to keep others, us, from making our own small groups, so we don’t share ideas or energy. Fear is poison. Sharing around us where we live, displaces fear. Getting some daylight and meeting others is energy.

    Otherwise, on the article the aids con was/is part of ramping fear of nature, make people bacteria phobic, further feminize people and other agendas, and though overall the article reminds me how false things are assumed, which systems would not exists but that people continue assuming as some sort of concrete without questioning -what is any of it doing in our faces. Of course the supposed systems were conjured by those with schemes, generations of schemers, which as people continued going along in lazy ignorance the hole gets bigger. When supposed govermnt -falsely claims control of our airwaves to ‘license’, hand to medias they want, it’s scheming. Natural law; life requires effort and on our own schemes -not feeding schemes of others who steer us to ruin our future.

    Appreciate the article Ron and your work keeping the website going.

  71. I greatly appreciate this basically free speech forum of Ron’s as well as his own articles. I don’t always agree with him but that is no reflection on his service in the search for truth. He must be under great pressure, at times. I respect this man unequivocally. I just needed to express it in writing.

  72. Abbybwood says:
    @repugnant

    Here is what is next:

    The West led by Victoria Nuland would love to see Putin and his troops and officers march into the catacombs of the Azovstyle Steel Works in Mariupol and be slaughtered.

    Instead, knowing the Azov Battalion is hiding there with little water, no food and nearly no communications, plus there may be civilians being held as human shields, not to mention God knows who from foreign militaries, NATO etc., Putin has ordered his troops to wait them all out so they can surrender. Every military analyst would advise this.

    Will be interesting to see “who” surrenders.

    • Replies: @nsa
    , @Flo
    , @RoatanBill
  73. ARepli says:

    Here we have a conservative crackpot asking the most pivotal question of our age:

    “You know I never gave it much thought, but why aren’t the MSM paying more attention to me?! I’m popular, sort-of. My stories implying the political class are shameless stooges of corporate power need to be heard. I’ve been goofing along at the margins of the intereebz quite diligently for some time now programming a comment system suitable for genetically-predisposed bigots to react to every topic with peans to me to ease their quaking fear of their Zion overlords.” On and on and on…

    The most charmingly implacable rhetorical crackpot gesture is that because Unz’ views don’t return sufficiently satisfying echos of acclaim, his opinions must be intellectually profound; that the silence is a deafening rejoinder, convincing of truths too difficult to for the cowed apparatchiks of American establishment to confront; his rambling conjectures create a shockwave of gobsmacking dissent that rumbles tectonically below the liquefaction zones of conventual opinion; these are the espousing of a maker who cannot meet his man.

    IOW, this conservative has found his inner hippie.

    Well, please don’t shoot the messenger, but the Summer of Love was 50 years ago. The Electric KoolAid Acid Test is standard palliative care for terminal patients. Euthanasia is a sanctioned medical procedure. Pot is a corner-store industry. The Church was a hive of pederasts and shameless fakers. Physics has confirmed astral travel. The Whole Earth Catalog turned out to be only part of the earth, The moon is just rocks. Micheal Caine was really Batman’s butler. Along the way, Reaganomics was a sham. Manuel Noriega grew up rose to power, died, and was interred in an American ghetto. The War on Drugs produced an epic immigration crisis. Cuba is still commie. Vietnam is a hip spot for old white men to retire. Disneyland lost its tax breaks. Russian capitalists are assholes. With the help of Nixon, Mao’s Revolution upgraded an civilization of ancient traditions into one billion industrial humanoid robots capable of producing a length of USB cables sufficient to lasso the Sun. All the Gold in Fort Knox just sits there. U.S. conservatism rotted into a ‘shitpile of bigots and imbeciles’ who receive mind-control signals from a ex-British prison colony at the antipodes of the American West.

    But there’s still reason for a lot of hippie hope! I’ve heard the Defense Dept. has been working on this invention that could be a game changer, a video technology that can send conservative values surging to the far corners of the map: it’s called the intertubez. Check it out, like this article and subscribe to my channel!

    (Wait, who goes there? Who are you? No… Oh, noes! Da jooooos…)

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  74. Ron Unz says:
    @Emslander

    No one, not even deep operatives, could have taken the action in the Unz theory on their own hook. The Unz theory involved the military and I’m sure that someone above field grade would have had to have received an order that they could attribute to the NSC in some way.

    It’s clear you’ve never bothered looking at the hypothetical scenario I’ve repeatedly sketched out over the last couple of years. Here’s the link, which I already provided upthread:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-george-orwells-virus-lab-leak/#outline-of-the-hypothetical-biowarfare-attack-scenario

    Keep in mind that Trump wasn’t really in control of his own administration, and sometimes his top aides would even hide his executive orders and hope he’d forget about them. So it seems perfectly plausible that without getting his permission someone very high in his national security apparatus decided to orchestrate an attack to inflict severe damage upon China, America’s leading international adversary, with Mike Pompeo and John Bolton being the two most likely suspects. Probably only a small handful of conspirators were involved.

    Once they decided to take that action, they simply drew upon America’s biowarfare assets to carry it out, with all the lower-level participants assuming that it was a covert but fully authorized operation. Given constant Trump attacks on China, no one would have been overly surprised. After all, over the decades we’d spent something like \$100 billion on our biowarfare capabilities, so why wouldn’t they be used at some point.

    As Secretary of State, Pompeo was the #2 figure in the Administration and also former CIA Director. If he’d gone to those lower-level officials and told them Trump had finally approved the covert plan they’d previously been discussing, none of them would have challenged the claim.

    After after things went wrong and a million Americans died, I doubt any of them would have come forward, explained they’d been responsible, and promised that in the future they’d be more careful and demand written instructions before they did anything like that.

    You really should read the articles I’ve linked or watch my various video interviews.

    There’s a mountain of circumstantial and more than circumstantial evidence in favor of this, and the only argument on the other side that you and others make is that even rogue elements of the Trump admininstration couldn’t have possibly done anything so reckless and foolhardly.

    • Agree: Kevin Barrett
    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Notsofast
    , @Emslander
  75. @Wizard of Oz

    Don’t you just hate an insouciant conclusion?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  76. Sparkon says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’m sure at least a little of that money was allocated to producing lots of surreptitious release-devices, perhaps along the lines of the ones in James Bond films.

    Perhaps the entire viral load was just contained in a couple of simple spray-devices, such as an asthma inhalers, and just casually sprayed onto various surfaces or confined locations by the operatives while they were sightseeing around Wuhan

    Once they decided to take that action, they simply drew upon America’s biowarfare assets to carry it out, with all the lower-level participants assuming that it was a covert but fully authorized operation.

    Sure. No doubt there is a command somewhere, maybe on a Hollywood lot, comprised of guys with very long arms and very small nostrils who are equipped with cleverly disguised military grade devices capable of covertly dispersing biological agents without themselves becoming infected.

    Nice work, if you can do it.

    To protect themselves from blowback, maybe the assets were wearing masks, which would not raise too many eyebrows in the Orient.

    But rather than using agents on the ground to disperse bioweapons, I suggest aircraft, especially drones (but not birds) are more likely to be the delivery systems of choice for any of the madmen involved in biological warfare.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Iris
  77. Well you are making progress which I say somewhat sarcastically, as are the trolls who have baited Robert Malone as a shill or black op because he won’t dismiss viruses as causes of disease and because he won’t name the Jew.

    Malone has now said he doubts HIV is the cause of AIDS, despite spending part of his career in AIDS research.

    Personally I don’t consider this a great accomplishment. This is clearly a result of him absorbing these fringe ideas, and I’m sure he has been reading Unz as well as Kennedy’s book.



    Video Link

    In fact he seems to be getting more and more red pilled about a lot of things, posting cartoons of Klaus Schwab as a giant octopus engulfing the world that have striking similarities to ones where the octopus is Rothschild or Soros.

    We’ll have to see if the trolls get their wish and Malone goes full tard and starts claiming viruses don’t exist.

    More generally, obviously there is a contextual field to express ideas in. If the ideas are too at odds with the context, too ‘big’, too numerous, too detached from what is assumed and too mixed in with obvious nonsense it seems unlikely they will make a significant impact.

    It’s not one or two ideas about AIDS or Covid that Mr Unz is presenting, it’s happens to be every conspiracy from 9/11 to JFK. And a tidal wave of conspiracies is easily shrugged off.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  78. meamjojo says:
    @Wokechoke

    “The theory that Israel helped to assassinate JFK is one of the most tantalising theories on the assassination. It’s simply never even discussed, yet it fits the evidence well enough, and is certainly more plausible than several of the wilder offerings that do get widespread coverage. It’s not like Israel doesn’t do assassinations in the context of nuclear policy and JFK did block their efforts to create an atomic weapon. He did get assassinated, and the assassin in turn was murdered by a Jewish rando. After he was assassinated the US began to approve Israeli demands with nukes. ”

    Welcome to UNZ.com, foolish conspiracy central…

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  79. Cookie says:

    Well Mr Unz at the moment you don’t seem to be upsetting anyone to much, if you were then look no further than Julian Assange for you fate.

    So you have to ask yourself will I push the envelope and really expose the criminals who run the world…or will I continue as is?

    Then you have to ask yourself will the great unwashed thank you…or even care?

    • Replies: @Gapeseed
  80. @Achmed E. Newman

    I dunno … Deckchairs on the Titanic. You should have blamed it on spell-cheque … oops …

  81. Notsofast says:
    @Ron Unz

    ….after things went wrong….imho everything went exactly according to plan, they wanted total chaos, the botched test roll out, the fda refusing to let states do their own testing, fauci telling people not to wear a mask, then to wear masks, then two masks. this ensured that the genie was well out of the bottle and could never be put back. this also allowed emergency approval of their synthetic mrna “vaccines” that could have never been approved if they underwent the normal fda approval procedures, the lack of autopsies and defining any death as covid if the the deceased tested positive with pcr tests the fda later admitted couldn’t delineate between covid and other corona viruses. this also allowed social media platforms and search engines to censor anyone questioning the official narrative or offering alternative treatments.

    the chaos also allowed \$10 trillion to be printed, to reinflate the u.s. ponzi economy (which was beginning to unravel in 2019) and dragged down rival economies setting the stage for the great reset, where they reset the assets of the middle class into the offshore accounts of the billionaire parasites (the top ten doubled their net worth). a third of the small businesses were wiped out during this time and their assets, revenue streams and customer bases siphoned up by the internet billionaire overlords. hedgefunds using the freshly printed monopoly money started buying up whole neighborhoods paying 50% more than the asking price, inflating a huge housing bubble and making homeownership impossible for many working class people, insuring a permanent renter status upon them while driving rental rates through the roof.

    in addition to the money printing we had massive ballot printing and rather than using existing mail in ballots, we had special covid ballots free of the normal safeguards for mail in votes.

    this is not an act of stupidity, for these people are not stupid they are purely evil.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  82. Dr. Rock says:

    Obviously it’s impossible for me to know the reach of the Unz.com, but I recommend it to everyone I know, link articles constantly within my circle of influence, and regard it as the most important site that I check daily!
    Long form articles, with countless references and links, coupled with a willingness to “say” what so many fear to even whisper, is valuable beyond measure.
    Keep it coming!

  83. @SurfingUSA

    No, my own insouciance prevents such strong emotion overcoming me😎

  84. ia says:
    @Rich

    I don’t comment enough to use the agree button so: I agree with everything you wrote.

  85. nsa says:
    @Abbybwood

    “….the Azovstal Steel Works in Mariupol….Azov battalion is hiding there…..wait them out…..”
    Flushing the ukonazi rats out should be easy. Just pipe Kenny G at 110 db into the catacombs. No human could take more than 5 hours of the wretched stuff. If that doesn’t work, try piping in some 110 db Barry Manilow. That should flush the rats out. Subjecting the hapless civilian human shields to G and Manilow is regrettable but necessary collateral damage.

  86. Wokechoke says:
    @meamjojo

    No worse than any other.

    There’s a long track record of Jews killing heads of state.

  87. dimples says:
    @geokat62

    Don’t try this on Mr Unz, this fatal flaw in his rogue neocon theory cannot be digested by him.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  88. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sparkon

    This deadly pathogen is mostly non deadly unless treated
    by American medicine – Remdisivir, ventilator or by Amer politicians.

    The pathogen might simply be manufactured hysteria, panic and Fauxi breath.

  89. Ron Unz says:
    @dimples

    Don’t try this on Mr Unz, this fatal flaw in his rogue neocon theory cannot be digested by him.

    I think that you and several other skeptics are looking at things the wrong way round.

    As I’ve documented, there’s absolutely overwhelming evidence that elements of the American government had obvious foreknowledge of the Covid outbreak in Wuhan. The most plausible explanation is that at least some of them were behind it. Given that America had spent something like \$100 billion creating the world’s largest biowarfare program, that’s really not so unlikely.

    As the disease spread, lots of countries eventually became infected, but the two nations independently hit right at the beginning were China and Iran. Those coincidentally happened to be the two nations most hated and feared by the Deep State Neocons, so they’re the most likely suspects. Maybe I’m wrong and you can think of someone else who probably did it, like Bill Gates or that 84-year-old Swiss banker all the conspiracy-activists are always ranting about. But my money is on some of the Deep State Neocons.

    But the crucial factual evidence in the American foreknowledge.

  90. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @meamjojo

    the zoo of anti-Semites

    Would you prefer more homies from Memehomonistan to join your Zionazi hasbaristas?

    “Israel uber alles!” doucherati comme toi-même are tiresome, bro. Give it up. No one groks your endlessly vomiting thoughts in the Pail of Settlement.

    Now, is it ever kosher to criticize Jews for anything? If so, please name 20 crimes Jews have committed.

    Now, name 50 crimes Israelis have.

    We’ll wait.

    white supremacists nincompoops

    TRANSLATION: “Whites who are unabashedly proud of their history and heritage.”

    Jealousy is a killer, Meamjojo. Don’t let the Green-eyed monster keep attacking your head…permanently on vacation in the High Colonics as it is.

  91. Gapeseed says:
    @Cookie

    So you have to ask yourself will I really push the envelope and expose the criminals who run the world…or will I continue as is?

    Then you have to ask yourself if the great unwashed thank you…or even care?

    Jesus had a lot to say on this subject in numerous passages throughout the New Testament, but in essence, be good to be good and not for show. God will know. History will (eventually) know too.

    • Agree: Rich
  92. … notably including an account of the likely assassination of Gen. George Patton by the U.S. government …

    I don’t see stuff like this as the basis of a rational conspiracy theory. First of all, there is the obituary of the driver of the car in the NYT.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/09/us/h-l-woodring-dies-at-77-was-driver-in-patton-crash.html

    The three people in the car were Patton, another General, and the driver. The fourth creature was a dog. Patton put the chilled animal in the front seat and he went to the back. Low-speed collision, nobody except Patton got hurt. So this looks to be a case of pure bad luck. Anyone who has ever ridden in the pre-seatbelt cars know they were death traps. IMO if Patton was murdered, it was in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. Low probability event, that.

    The author may have published some good stuff, but his website displays some flaky materials. Like The Truth about the Shroud of Turin (2010). He believes it is the real thing. Or Japan’s Secret War (1985). The claim is that Japan got far along enough on its own A-bomb project that their information has been helpful to North Korea. Pure nonsense.

    … the Suvorov Hypothesis and the writings of British historian David Irving …

    Genuine faith-based stuff with those two.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Sam Hildebrand
  93. Ron Unz says:
    @Zachary Smith

    I don’t see stuff like this as the basis of a rational conspiracy theory.

    Well, since the Times had never acknowledged any possibility that Patton had been killed, why would you expect them to raise the issue in the obituary of his driver? If you carefully read my article you’d have seen this:

    The alleged government assassin first publicly confessed his guilt in the plot decades ago in front of a journalist at an OSS reunion dinner in DC, while seated at the table of his longtime friend and colleague William Colby, former Director of the CIA. And although the resulting local news stories were completely ignored by the national media, it is hardly surprising that word soon got around within intelligence circles.

    You can find some of the local DC news stories describing the public confession. And the purported assassin later had a lengthy obituary in the Times, though it made no mention that he’d publicly admitted killing Patton:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/22/world/douglas-dewitt-bazata-artist-and-oss-officer-dies-at-88.html

    The author spent many years researching the issue, and book contains a huge wealth of supportive evidence, which seems quite persuasive to me.

    Patton’s published diary reveals that he had strongly turned against the US government. It’s also known that he planned to resign his commission and begin a public speaking tour in America denouncing the government and “telling the truth about WWII,” which might have had quite an impact coming from one of our top generals and greatest war heroes. He’d almost been killed in a previous couple of very strange accidents, and died the day before he left for the US.

    Do I feel certain that he was assassinated? Not at all, but based upon the weight of evidence, I’d put the odds in the 60-70% range. Those so interested should read my article, or better yet, the book itself:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/was-general-patton-assassinated/

    … the Suvorov Hypothesis and the writings of British historian David Irving …

    Meanwhile, the very recent book by completely mainstream historian Sean McMeekin fully confirms the reality of the Suvorov Hypothesis, while David Irving certainly ranks as one of the absolutely top WWII historians:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-stalin-almost-conquered-europe/

    https://www.unz.com/article/barbarossa-suvorovs-revisionism-goes-mainstream/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  94. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @obwandiyag

    If you calculate … going back to the end of the War [?] and tallying up “excess death” every year since then, you will find that there was no 15 million excess deaths. There was the normal amount of deaths during the epidemic.  Except that nobody died of the flu.  Interestingly.

    You make two claims:

    (1)  The number of deaths at any time minus the running average of the number of deaths within a few years of that time, that is, the number of excess deaths at that time, varies with time.  The number of excess deaths when covid was supposed to be at its worst was actually within the usual variance.  I’d like to see a graph or table supporting that claim.

    (2)  The paucity of flu deaths during the time of Covid suggests that most flu deaths were incorrectly attributed to Covid.  It’s hard for someone like me, ignorant on the subject of contagious diseases, to have an opinion about that.  Maybe diseases sort of fight it out among themselves.

    Until you address these most basic necessary matters, any discussion of bio-warfare must wait in the wings.

    I emphatically disagree.  Both need to be discussed.  Which is more “basic” depends on “basic.”  Certainly the bio-warfare aspect came first in time; everything depends on it.

  95. frankie p says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “one lie proven was enough and the witness would be branded a liar.”

    Are you referring to the soap or the lampshades?

    • LOL: Wizard of Oz
  96. @Ron Unz

    But the crucial factual evidence in the American foreknowledge.

    Foreknowledge among US and Chinese insiders would also be expected after an accidental lab leak. It is peculiar that neither Anthony Fauci nor Peter Daszak have been publicly questioned under oath before Congress, on this and closely related issues pertaining to research at the Wuhan labs.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  97. @Wizard of Oz

    Wiz, there are not enough hours in the day to catalogue all your distortions, misrepresentations, lies by omission and bald-faced lies.

    One only needs to search your archive history and see for themselves.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  98. Dumbo says:
    @Sparkon

    I don’t know the final word on the time frame for the viability of SARS-CoV-2 on various surfaces or materials, called fomites, but it seems plausible that one could, with poor hand hygiene, pick up the virus from a shopping cart handle, keypad, or even recently-stocked items on the shelves at your market, and transport virions to the mouth or nose with a careless touch.

    This whole thing about the “virus” being “transmissible” in all kinds of surfaces was a lie. At one point they were urging people not to use cash but to move to credit cards or digital payment, because bills were dangerous. Yeah, right. As if they didn’t want to move towards digital money anyway.

    Meanwhile, cashiers all over were doing fine.

    There was nothing all that different from Covid from other similar respiratory diseases. There was no need for all this panic and hysteria and regulations, which obviously made things much worse, and in many ways, the “excess deaths”, if they do exist at alL, are a reflection of all that was done in the name of fighting a pandemic.

    • Agree: Emslander
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  99. @Ron Unz

    Maybe I’m wrong and you can think of someone else who probably did it, …

    Why are you so absolutely certain that somebody “did it”, Mr. Unz? You and I have read about the bio labs doing this “gain-of-function”* research on corona and other viruses in both the labs at UNC and in Wuhan.

    For the last over 25 years American industry of all sorts has outsourced work to China to save money. I can easily see that the reason UNC wanted this partner – aside from possibly some ties to scientist colleagues there – is that the work could be done much cheaper. Could not a part of that be due to the Chinese way of cutting corners? Do you remember the Nicholas Wade article in which he described how what was supposed to be a BSL-4 lab was being operated per BSL-2 protocols?

    There IS a lot of evil in this world, but there’s a lot of stupidity also. I tend to think the latter explains the release of the Covid-19 virus just as well as the former.

    .

    * Which, BTW, is something I’m not so sure is worth doing at all. Also, what is the functional difference between gain-of-function research and bio-weapons research? The logo on the buildings might be different, is all.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  100. Emslander says:
    @Ron Unz

    It’s clear you’ve never bothered looking at the hypothetical scenario I’ve repeatedly sketched out over the last couple of years.

    Sometimes, Mr. Unz, what’s clear to you isn’t maybe so clear to me. I’ve read all the articles. They’re certainly a tour de force in conjuring, but they leave me with an empty feeling, as far as conspiracy theories go. I’m always up for a good conspiracy theory, too.

    I haven’t watched the videos because, as a good Unz reader, I’ve been taught that videos are for idiots.

    I appreciate the extra effort to which you’ve gone in answering my objections. I’ve only been trying to be helpful. You seem genuinely surprised that such a juicy theory as a Trump rogue having started the horrid CV19 “pandemic” hasn’t found legs, yet. I was trying to point out its flaws.

    Anyway, I appreciate your website.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  101. @Dumbo

    This whole thing about the “virus” being “transmissible” in all kinds of surfaces was a lie.

    You bring back some (not so) fond memories, Dumbo. My wife, who since then has SEEN THE LIGHT*, at the time was accumulating wet wipes, washing door knobs and counter tops (first time for everything, haha), wearing rubber gloves, and thoroughly wiping off the steering wheel of her car after each use, and so on…

    2 months later, and it was all about the airborne contagion – see “Why is it always “Maskers, Maskers, Maskers”?!”). By “seen the light”, I don’t mean that she’s just gotten over the panic and seen the stupidity of the “experts”. From this whole episode, she has a whole ‘nother view of government and the Establishment. Yes, I am proud of myself for that, though saying “I was wrong” is just plain a bridge too far for her … or any other woman. ;-}

    At one point they were urging people not to use cash but to move to credit cards or digital payment, because bills were dangerous.

    That’s EXACTLY the point I’ve been trying to make. I could see the real reason behind that “going cashless” subterfuge from the get-go. Yes, this Kung Flu, if not purposeful, has been purposefully USED very nicely by governments to push more Orwellianism and Totalitarianism.

    PS: I see quite a few business that still stick to the cashless payments. The excuse is no longer “Covid one-niner”, but “we are out of change”, etc… I’ll tell you what, if the food has already been put together, and that sign was not in plain view to me before, I will tell them “no”. “The law says you take legal tender. If you don’t want my money, then too bad.” (Most times, the cashier will come up with the change “after all”, or I’ve seen a guy use his card, while I paid him cash. Works for me.) RESIST!

    .

    * It helps greatly being around me.

  102. Ron Unz says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Foreknowledge among US and Chinese insiders would also be expected after an accidental lab leak.

    You really should read my articles or watch my video interviews. Robert Kadlec, America’s leading biowarfare advocate, ran the Crimson Contagion exercise from January to August 2019, in which federal and state authorities practiced how they would protect America from infection by a dangerous respiratory virus if one suddenly appeared in China. A couple of months after it ended, exactly that sort of virus suddenly appeared in Wuhan. Are you suggesting that the alleged lab-leak had occurred back in 2018?

    Iran publicly accused America of having attacked it with the Covid bioweapon and filed a formal complaint with the United Nations, but since the American MSM never reported it, you never heard about it.

    There’s a mountain of additional evidence as well:

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  103. Ron Unz says:
    @Emslander

    I haven’t watched the videos because, as a good Unz reader, I’ve been taught that videos are for idiots.

    The reason those videos are important is because they’re not blocked by Facebook or Google, while all articles on this website are. Plus most people are lazy and prefer watching videos. Indeed, those three video interviews have now been viewed almost an additional 30,000 times just in the last 24 hours.

    This website had been publishing ultra-controversial material for several years and we’d never had any problems with Facebook or Google. But just days after I published my first Covid origins article and it began getting huge traffic and going viral, our entire website was banned/deranked by both Facebook and Google.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Emslander
  104. @Ron Unz

    …the Crimson Contagion exercise from January to August 2019…
    A couple of months after it ended, exactly that sort of virus suddenly appeared in Wuhan. Are you suggesting that the alleged lab-leak had occurred back in 2018?

    No; there had been other such preparatory drills even before then, sponsored by Johns Hopkins University. Even Hollywood productions had featured such a viral outbreak scenario. This does not constitute proof of an intent to release such a virus for nefarious purposes but simply reflects an awareness that the kind of research that was being conducted was risky and might lead to an accidental release, for which the public needed to be prepared.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  105. @obwandiyag

    I agree with you, obwandiyag. The PCR is not – according to its inventor, Kary Mullis – a diagnostic tool and that was one of Mullis’ points when it came to HIV, because PCR multiplies the RNA fragments, giving impression of a huge virus load when it may be an insignificant virus load. At the same time we know that the mortality rate in the world was normal in 2020. So that bio weapon was really a failure. Moreover, the idea that USA technologists are able to produce such a bio weapon is highly questionable. Yes, they are able to get lots and lots of funding to try, but most very dangerous viruses turn out to be rather harmless after all, so my bet is that the Very Dangerous Virus Weapon is nothing more than a wet dream for the genocidists. There are lots of problems to solve to make any virus dangerous because any healthy immune system will take care of the infection before it starts and if that was not enough, you need to know very much about how the genetic material inside a virus may affect the infected person’s body, I even doubt that knowledge ever will appear, because it is a very complex matter, it is a much easier to manipulate genetic material we already know. In fact, very little of the nature of viruses is proved science and very much is assumptions. Politicians believe in fantasies because they are not scientists and scientists are concerned about their funding and dare not to speak out or get effectively silenced, as Unz knows from the story of the HIV fraud.
    They may kill us with mRNA vaccines, but not so easily with Ebola & Friends.

  106. @Ron Unz

    When UR was banned I suggested that the immediate apparent cause was cover for the ADL and accomplices finally discovering a pretext for heavying Favebook and Google. I am Silurian you didn’t reject that out of hand. But have you since learned of evidence bearing on its truth?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  107. @Truth Vigilante

    Not even one from memory or quick search? Res ipsa loquitur.

  108. @Ron Unz

    But the crucial factual evidence in the American foreknowledge.

    I have never noticed you being so succinctly explicit about it. But now that you have said “crucial” and pinned the credibility of your theory to it may I suggest that you do something to fortify or at least test the strength of this crucial issue.

    You could do it yourself given your considerable standing as public figure but I appreciate that America has a large population and your eminence is relative. However you must surely be able to find someone like a member of Congress of senior staff member who can expect to get a reply from ABC.

    The question to ask might be….

    As a result of your news report of XYZ[date] which exposed an alleged report of November 2019 before the Chinese authorities had any knowledge of the Covid outbreak citing reporting by US medical intelligence that a potentially cataclysmic outbreak of disease had been detected the conclusion has been drawn and published that the US must have had foreknowledge which could only be explained as the guilty knowledge of the perpetrators. The implications of this are obviously grave especially if widely accepted and broadcast. In anticipation of that I/we would like you to consider what might have been explanations alternative to the truth of the reports which, we note, were denied by the DoD . Have you such alternative explanations?

    In particular it has been suggested that, despite it involving the planting of a story with your network as well as an Israeli TV station, that there might have been a collective effort by some in the intelligence community to create an embarrassment for President Trump at the beginning of the year in which he would be seeking reelection. There might be other explanations for the creation of false news on such a sensitive subject but the hypothesis just now presented does seem consistent with there having been no repetition on your or any other organ of the media in the US, Israel or any NATO country..

    *** *** ***
    I don’t suggest that as the ipsissima verba of a letter your lawyer might charge to draft or settle but as briefing notes which I trust show that you can make an approach which is quite emollient or at least respectful.

  109. @Wizard of Oz

    Sorry Ron but your malicious Autofill goes behind my back to punish me for something.

    This time it won’t

    When UR was banned I suggested that the immediate apparent cause was cover for the ADL and accomplices finally discovering a pretext for heavying Facebook and Google. I am sure you didn’t reject that out of hand. But have you since learned of evidence bearing on its truth?

  110. Emslander says:
    @Ron Unz

    Okay. I was just poking fun at you over the videos. Actually, I don’t watch a lot of videos because so much more information can be packed into text for the time spent. I understand your reasoning and I’m for anything that gets people to read this site.

    If every thinking adult read this site, we’d be a lot better off. It’s what a marketplace of ideas ought to look like. As a consequence of its unevenness and sometimes craziness, the truth percolates up. Sanitized post-modern liberal mush will be the death of our nation. The infinitely sourced content you provide, with the least amount of oversight and control possible, could save us. I still have a little hope.

    Thanks again for your efforts.

  111. Jews, with their nose for assets like a truffle
    pig, decide to drop the dollar piece by piece.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-20/israel-adds-yuan-to-206-billion-reserves-in-philosophy-change

  112. Iris says:
    @Sparkon

    who are equipped with cleverly disguised military grade devices capable of covertly dispersing biological agents without themselves becoming infected. Nice work, if you can do it.
    .

    Such device has existed for at least a decade. There would be no difficulty fitting a miniature drone such a s the FLIR Systems Black Hornet 3, with a reservoir and vaporiser able to spread millions of viruses. It could then have easily been remotely controlled to release its payload over food in the Wuhan seafood market.

    A Black Hornet 3 was captured by the Syrian Army in 2020. It was tiny enough, but there exist even smaller models which would look just like an insect, or not even be noticed if used in the dark.

  113. Emslander says:
    @Sollipsist

    About the whole business of the CV19 “pandemic”, I don’t think the experts know nearly as much as they purport to know. The good thing is that, as one of the alternative doctors said, we’ve learned more about the behavior of viruses in the past two years than we ever did before.

    That’s good. Let’s hope nothing ever gets as screwed up as this snowflake driven paroxysm has been.

  114. Emslander says:
    @Ron Unz

    I don’t think that there’s any question that the Unz theory “could” have been carried out by a fully designed bio-warfare effort. I just don’t think that anyone was motivated enough to actually carry it out roguishly against our rather non-threatening enemies. Our great danger from the Chines was that they were able to sell more manufactured junk to us than we were to them.

  115. @Zachary Smith

    I downloaded Wilcox’s book, Target: Patton. I couldnt get thru it. Wilcox seems to have been infatuated with this Bazata character. Page after page after page etc, etc of Bazata stories, he killed his first man as a teenager merchant marine, fights with hobos while hopping trains, elite athlete in college, on and on. Wilcox obviously had a man crush on Bazata and Bazata was obviously a pathological liar. Wilcox’s Patton assassination theory is based on these larger than life stories about/by Bazata

    Using a car accident as a method of assination is the dumbest ever. Its like a plot from a Mannix episode. Patton broke his neck in a low speed accident, bad luck. Many people survive horrific car accidents while others are killed in rather minor fender benders, talk to any traffic cop to confirm.

    That Patton survived a few weeks then died of a blood clot is not suspicious, but common with spinal cord injury patients. Derrick Thomas, all pro Kansas City linebacker, died similar to Patton after a sustaining a spinal cord injury in a car accident.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Zachary Smith
  116. @Treg

    Many of us want to be the hero and take action, but we are wise enough that it must be both effective and news worthy action to change the game. What action to take, thats a bigger question that we can no longer not address.

    In order to take the kind of action that is necessary to free ourselves from our captivity, it seems to me, requires the taking of collective action. Collective action requires the ability of the members of the collective to communicate with one another. The way in which our system was set up to accomplish that communication was through the free press.

    Our enemies have a stranglehold on our press. The Internet had–maybe still has–the possibility of breaking that stranglehold. I think it is important to speak out, at least, in defense of contrarians, for example, Julian Assange, who has been set to be extradited to the US–a death sentence for him.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  117. Flo says:
    @Abbybwood

    Yep, should be interesting. Reports claim the Russians monitoring communications within the steel mill have heard seven different languages being spoken. And there have been unconfirmed reports all along that American military men — officers, intelligence, “advisers” — have been captured or killed by the Russians.

  118. Ron Unz says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    No; there had been other such preparatory drills even before then, sponsored by Johns Hopkins University. Even Hollywood productions had featured such a viral outbreak scenario. This does not constitute proof of an intent to release such a virus for nefarious purposes

    Of course. There have been Hollywood movies and public health drills on dangerous diseases for decades, and such events hardly imply any foreknowledge. Moreover, after the deadly SARS epidemic broke out around 2003, we’d certainly expect such drills and discussions to increase.

    However, the case I’m describing is extremely different. America’s top biowarfare expert ran a massive, nine-month federal/state drill on how to protect our society from infection by a dangerous respiratory virus that might suddenly appear in China. And then just a few weeks afterwards, a dangerous respiratory virus did indeed suddenly and mysteriously appear in China.

    That’s roughly the equivalent of taking out a multi-million-dollar life-insurance on your wife and having her die in a mysterious apparently random street killing a few weeks later. That doesn’t prove you were involved, but it makes the life insurance company exceptionally suspicious.

    And this is merely one piece of the biowarfare case. There’s a mountain of additional evidence as well, some of it even stronger.

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

  119. @Ron Unz

    Here’s another link I got from a new UR article by Enzo Porter that should reinforce your willingness to accept that a few intell people may have ganged up to plant the ABC/Israeli TV “smoking gun”

    Meanwhile, FBI gumshoes and undercover operatives wasted time and money in the time-consuming and disastrous Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping hoax, which exposed the FBI’s role as provocateur [The Feds Are So Desperate For Violent ‘White Supremacy,’ They’re Fabricating It, by Madeline Osburn, The Federalist, April 12, 2022].

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/04/12/the-feds-are-so-desperate-for-white-supremacy-extremism-they-fabricated-their-own/

    From that I quote

    By refusing to convict four men accused of plotting to kidnap and kill Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer before Election Day 2020, the Grand Rapids jury seemed to side with defense attorneys who argued their clients were not domestic terrorists, but entrapped by undercover FBI agents and at least a dozen informants who planned and funded the kidnapping operation.

    Perhaps you can have similar suspicions as those jurors about the willingness of the forces of law and order, and security, to misbehave for political or ideological reasons.

  120. Emslander says:
    @Ron Unz

    The best theory isn’t even a big mystery. We all know how the demic got started. We’re just not supposed to talk about it.

    Anthony Fauci was funding gain of function, Frankenstein, coronavirus monsters in Wuhan out of aborted baby stem cells because Congress had prohibited the practice. He did it through a cutout with US funds in China. It was probably done in a number of labs around the world, like maybe in Iraq and Ukraine and Italy. The resultant strains of virus escaped from those labs and began infecting the world.

    Fauci went into panic mode to cover for his illegal and satanic research, and we had the international lockdown, because he thought his creations were worse than the Spanish flu virus.

    And Bob’s your uncle.

  121. @Ron Unz

    The author Robert Wilcox was able to repeatedly interview an OSS agent, a decorated marksman named Douglass Bazata, who admitted to having arranged the “accident”. In this accident no one except General Patton was hurt, and once the accident had taken place, Bazata claimed to have shot General Patton with a neck breaking low velocity projectile. [1] Bazata passed away in 1999. According to Bazata the job was finished by the Soviet NKVD (the precursor of KGB) while Patton was in hospital. Whether it was the OSS, or the OSS-NKVD acting jointly that completed the murder of Gen. Patton as Wilcox indicates, the fact is, as we point out, both, the US and the Soviet Union, were controlled by the same Elite. It was the Elite that wanted to kill Patton.

    The “Elites” surely had a motive – Patton was becoming increasingly unbalanced and was on the verge of making public some things which would have caused an awful mess. (example – details of the Battle of the Bulge) The tale of it being a joint OSS-NKVD operation makes no sense to me because the OSS was quite capable of doing such a job itself. It’s just difficult to understand how something so clumsy would have been the plan.

    https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2018/06/11/real-story-general-george-patton-jr-death-final-days/

    Meanwhile, the very recent book by completely mainstream historian Sean McMeekin fully confirms the reality of the Suvorov Hypothesis…

    Then I wonder why a review of the book explicitly said this:

    To his credit, McMeekin steers clear of the wilder claims of right-wing historical revisionism. He doesn’t excuse Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union as a preventative war or claim that Stalin was preparing to attack Germany.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/stalin-s-war-disorted-history-of-a-complex-second-world-war-1.4551057

    In my opinion McMeekin is “mainstream in the same sense as Irving is – not at all.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/23739770.2021.1994824?journalCode=rifa20

  122. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t read Paul Craig Roberts because he doesn’t allow comments. He will die before me and he can suck it. Suck it, Paul Craig!

  123. Ron Unz says:
    @Sam Hildebrand

    Page after page after page etc, etc of Bazata stories, he killed his first man as a teenager merchant marine, fights with hobos while hopping trains, elite athlete in college, on and on. Wilcox obviously had a man crush on Bazata and Bazata was obviously a pathological liar.

    Well, lots of those remarkable exploits by Bazata that you seem to find so totally implausible were included in his lengthy New York Times obituary, which quoted many other sources:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/22/world/douglas-dewitt-bazata-artist-and-oss-officer-dies-at-88.html

    And Bazata was seated next to his old friend former CIA Director William Colby at an OSS reunion when he publicly revealed the story of how he had assassinated Gen. Patton. It’s certainly possible that he was lying, but it seems a rather strange lie to invent, and according to Wilcox, the claims were backed up by Bazata’s personal diary.

  124. bronekc says:

    We are very lucky to have this site. Ron is a very versatile individual and he’s very clever. For those who have time I would suggest reading Kennedy’s book about Dr. Anthony Fact.

  125. @Ron Unz

    And then just a few weeks afterwards, a dangerous respiratory virus did indeed suddenly and mysteriously appear in China.

    Certainly this sequence of events warrants suspicion. Yet to presume that a viral release intended to unfold its maximum damage at a specific date weeks in the future (Chinese New Year) was more likely than a lab accident due to sloppy handling, which is not so unusual, is to succumb to the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. The implied causality between malicious intent and consequences, “just a few weeks afterwards“, would surely have been accompanied by a more immediate and coordinated response, for which there is no evidence. For instance, I recall that the outbreak was not even a big issue at the World Economic Forum event in Davos, later in January 2020, even though by then the early foreknowledge among insiders should have manifested more specifically at that level, given that a public emergency had already been declared in China by then.

    In retrospect, a reasonable public policy reply to the kind of viral outbreak scenarios that were being gamed in the exercises would have been a concerted effort to universally ban those kinds of risky biological research, the potentially adverse effects of which governmental participants were preparing to safeguard against or at least mitigate.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  126. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:

    Ron, you wrote:

    “according to our official statistics”

    – in a piece plausibly promoting the premise that “our” officials are inveterate liars.

    The proper place to start an investigation of COVID or anything else is not in “our official statistics” but with this question: “Does the phenomenon under review actually exist or not?”

    This heuristic is the most productive one I know. Liars lie not only about details, they make things up out of the whole cloth. A hypothetical example: instead of first asking “who is responsible for x’s death,” one would do better first to ask “is x dead.” All gumshoes know this.

    So it isn’t enough to ask “who is responsible for the COVID holocaust,” rejecting the flu deaths that didn’t bark and accepting the root premise promoted by “our officials.” One should at least consider the question “was there a COVID holocaust? or was it instead, say, a bad flu season hyped by the ruling class whom I’ve shown to be liars again and again?” I don’t see that you have made any effort to ask the latter. If I’m wrong, I sincerely apologize.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Catdompanj
  127. Ron Unz says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    For instance, I recall that the outbreak was not even a big issue at the World Economic Forum event in Davos, later in January 2020, even though by then the early foreknowledge among insiders should have manifested more specifically at that level, given that a public emergency had already been declared in China by then.

    I’d never paid any attention to the World Economic Forum nonsense so widely promoted by conspiracy-activists during 2020, so thanks for the information. That simply confirms my view that nobody influential connected with the WEF was involved in the Covid plot.

    One point I should emphasize is that there’s absolutely no way of knowing who was actually involved, and that certainly includes even Kadlec and everyone else connected with the Crimson Contagion exercise. For example, it’s easy to imagine that the plotters simply encouraged Kadlec to hold the defensive public health drill by arguing there was always a chance that a dangerous new virus like SARS might suddenly appear in China.

    Similarly, they’d alerted the DIA to the Wuhan outbreak probably by claiming they’d gotten it via an intelligence leak, so I doubt any of the DIA people were involved in the plot.

    My argument is simply that the enormous amount of foreknowledge proves that some people fairly high up in the US government were aware of the looming viral outbreak without indicating their identities.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  128. j1 says:

    Mr. Unz, you should write about Soros’ endeavors to take down communism and the Soviet Union. Too many people propagate the lie of the left as a ‘communist’, ‘marxist’ conspiracy.

  129. mcohen says:

    Dear ron

    using your website to publish your wonderful insightful efforts to expose all the coverups and shenanigans of corruption as a cover to bash israel and promote antisemitism was a great idea and gave you a free ticket to the theatre of absurd.
    Its like this.let me hammer the Jews because I do good work elsewhere.
    Mate.
    The gig is up.Go back to software.People are simply tired of the shit that passes for media coming out of america.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
    , @JR Foley
  130. @mcohen

    … as a cover to bash israel and promote antisemitism …

    Bashing the shithole state is actually a pretty good idea, but I’ll admit the associated “antisemitism” often isn’t.

    Couldn’t help but notice you seem to be OK with the racism of many of the articles here. Might that be because of the rampant and violent apartheid within the stolen land where God’s Favorite Thieves and Murderers dwell?

    • Replies: @mcohen
  131. Sparkon says:
    @Ron Unz

    There have been Hollywood movies and public health drills on dangerous diseases for decades, and such events hardly imply any foreknowledge. Moreover, after the deadly SARS epidemic broke out around 2003, we’d certainly expect such drills and discussions to increase

    it’s easy to imagine that the plotters simply encouraged Kadlec to hold the defensive public health drill by arguing there was always a chance that a dangerous new virus like SARS might suddenly appear in China.

    All the more so in the wake of EcoHealth Alliance’s 2013 announcement about the discovery of a “SARS-like coronavirus” in Chinese Horseshoe bats, which contained this warning from Peter Daszak, head of the the much-maligned organization:

    Our research uncovered a wide diversity of potentially pandemic viruses present, right now, in bats in China that could spillover into people and cause another SARS-like outbreak. Even worse, we don’t know how lethal these viruses would be if such an outbreak erupted,”

    https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2013/10/new-sars-like-coronavirus-discovered-in-chinese-horseshoe-bats

    So there is really nothing all that mysterious about the emergence of a novel coronavirus in China by 2019, if not earlier, nor the fact that these cornaviruses had the ability to jump directly to humans, as the 2013 report I’ve linked above suggests.

    But the devil really is in the details, and of course the Crimson Contagion exercise simulated a pandemic based on a simulated novel type A influenza virus, designated H7N9, which is not a coronavirus at all.

    Close, but no cigar.

    An article by Josephine Ma in the South China Morning Post on March 13, 2020, reports that the first case of COVID-19 in China occurred on Nov. 17, 2019. It seems plausible that the NCMI report in late November was based on analysis of increased chatter about and activity around health clinics.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/first-covid-19-case-happened-in-november-china-government-records-show-report

    At first, the Chinese denied there was a viral outbreak, and punished a doctor or two who made unapproved statements about it, but by Jan. 22, 2020, Chinese health authorities had moved to lock down Wuhan, the quarantine remaining in place for 76 days.

    The simplest explanation for the early Chinese response is typical heavy-handed bureaucratic bungling by the Chinese authorities coupled with the expected Chinese need to save face about it, finally culminating in Chinese insinuations, suggestions and ultimately, accusations that the virus was brought to China by Americans.

    https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/chinese-officials-blame-us-army-for-coronavirus-67267

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  132. mcohen says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Hi Zachary

    Yes absolutely correct.I am OK with everything posted here on unz except antisemitism.

    Also do not tolerate unz writers posting there antisemetism on social media through links on Twitter Facebook etc

    As to the “shithole state” otherwise known as israel.You are entitled to your opinion.

    Bear in mind that it was the Romans who attacked the “shithole state” back in the olden days.Even made off with the temple candelabra.There is a famous artwork depicting this from back then.Evidently it now resides in the Vatican.Israel wants it back.

    That’s right mr catholic pope.Israel and the Jews want the temple candelabra to be returned.Nice collectors piece.Also all those statues knocked down in America would be nice collectors pieces.lol

    However my conviction and faith in israel is anchored by a coin .
    What do call a cash register.a Jewish piano………hahahahahahahaha.Us Jews have a good sense of humour

    This coin pictured in the link is a picture of an owl and the words YEHUD from the 4 th bce

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-first-judean-coins

    That’s the history of the Jews.

  133. @Sam Hildebrand

    Using a car accident as a method of assination is the dumbest ever.

    That’s pretty much my thought as well. The General riding in the back seat with Patton had been with him since North Africa, and seems to me he was unlikely to have been involved with a killing in any way. Being cold weather, I’m sure the window was not down, so the technique of the theoretical shooter with his “low velocity” projectiles is hard to figure out.

    By that stage of WW2 there were dozens if not hundreds of ways the OSS had to kill people. Why didn’t they take out Patten with one of them? Nope – it had to be the blowhard who supposedly bragged in public about the deed.

    If Patton was indeed murdered, putting out some obvious nonsense was a surefire way of making the killing into a silly conspiracy notion.

  134. @Joe Paluka

    Future civilization will wonder how we went from freedom to suppression in just a few short years without a shot being fired.

    It took 58 years (1964). 37 years to prep the population, followed by 21 years of turning the screw.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  135. @Anon

    Are you suffering from the potent American version of the “my country is at the centre of the world and I am not even sure that others exist” syndrome?

    How do you arrange to have e the medical expperts of oo% of countries – democracies, autocratic and oligarchies – all accepting that there is a real Mutating Covid 19 virus that can kill people?

    • Replies: @Anon
  136. @Ron Unz

    Excuse me breaking in on something I only know about from UR but it occurs to me that it is not “a rather strange lie to invent” if you have got off on eing a fabulist for years and relish the opportunity offered or inspired by sitting next to William Colby.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  137. @Ron Unz

    Steve MacGregor in a December 2018 article in WarHistory Online makes a convincing argument that Wilcox was snookered by a bitter old spoke (Bazata).

    https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/death-of-george-patton.html?io

    Apparently Bazata, a couple of months before his confession at the OSS reunion, had recently watch a movie “Brass Target” based on a 1974 novel, “Algonquin Project” written by Frederick Nolan. The storyline in the movie was nearly identical to the car crash and secret airpowered rubber bullet firing weapon allegedly used to break the general’s neck. Nolan said his book was a work of fiction and he had never met Bazata.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  138. Ron Unz says:
    @Sparkon

    An article by Josephine Ma in the South China Morning Post on March 13, 2020, reports that the first case of COVID-19 in China occurred on Nov. 17, 2019. It seems plausible that the NCMI report in late November was based on analysis of increased chatter about and activity around health clinics.

    No. You haven’t bothered looking into the details or reading my articles. All your facts are confused or mistaken.

    It was later assumed that the Nov. 17th case you mention was a Covid infection, but absolutely no one realized that at the time since the existence of the virus was unsuspected and undetectable. According to that timeline, perhaps a dozen people in Wuhan, a city of 11 million, were starting to feel a little sick by late November and the Chinese government only discovered the viral outbreak at the end of December.

    Meanwhile, during “the second week of November” the DIA was producing a secret report describing a potentially “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan.

    Moreover, according to the most recent scientific analysis, the alleged Nov. 17th case was erroneous, and the Patient Zero only became infected near the end of November:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/two-years-after-covid-american-eyes-remain-firmly-shut/

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  139. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Excuse me breaking in on something I only know about from UR but it occurs to me that it is not “a rather strange lie to invent” if you have got off on eing a fabulist for years and relish the opportunity offered or inspired by sitting next to William Colby.

    Well, it’s absolutely established that Bazata had been an OSS agent and then spent many years working as a professional assassin for the CIA, including for his close friend William Colby. And if you believe the details in his lengthy NYT obituary, his life was already so “exciting” that he would hardly need to invent additional details.

    He declared that he’d assassinated Patton on orders of the US government and said he now felt guilty about it, with his public confession being reported in the DC media. Maybe he was lying, but Wilcox claimed that his diary backed him up, and that years of investigation seemed to confirm the details of Bazata’s story.

    So maybe he was lying and maybe he wasn’t. But don’t you consider it extremely “odd” that absolutely nobody in the American mainstream media ever tried to investigate the story and interview him to see whether it might be true? Moreover, it was entirely omitted from his lengthy NYT obituary.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  140. Ron Unz says:
    @Sam Hildebrand

    Steve MacGregor in a December 2018 article in WarHistory Online makes a convincing argument that Wilcox was snookered by a bitter old spoke (Bazata)….Apparently Bazata, a couple of months before his confession at the OSS reunion, had recently watch a movie “Brass Target” based on a 1974 novel, “Algonquin Project” written by Frederick Nolan.

    Thanks for the link, however the article you cite never claimed that Bazata had watched the movie in question.

    Otherwise, the objections the author raises seem perfectly reasonable, though he does tend to dismiss or ignore quite a lot of the supporting evidence, and fails to mention that Patton had nearly been killed under strange circumstances on a couple of occasions during the previous few weeks, nor that he was about to return to America to start a public speaking tour denouncing the US government.

    Based upon the total amount of evidence, I’d say it’s obviously not certain that Patton was assassinated, but I’d put the odds at somewhat better than 50-50. However, the fact that the entire American MSM ignored the public confession of Patton’s alleged killer and the volume of evidence presented in the Wilcox book seems extremely suspicious to me.

    On a related matter, I wonder if you’re aware that quite a number of other individuals near the very top of the American government died under mysterious circumstances roughly around that same time period:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-deadly-world-of-post-war-politics/

    • Replies: @Sam hildebrand
  141. @Ron Unz

    I agree that it is highly suspicious that not one msm reporter thought it would be worthwhile to follow up on a confession by a decorated war hero/high level OSS member. Maybe the higher ups were worried about what evidence would be uncovered concerning Patton’s other near death experiences after the war ended. No doubt the top government officials wanted Patton dead, they just got lucky when he died in an actual accident.

    The article does not confirm that Bazata saw the movie but does state that Bazata admits in his diary that he read the book that the movie was based on.

    Thanks for the link on other mysterious deaths after the war. I look forward to reading the article.

  142. JR Foley says:
    @mcohen

    Mogilevich is the name –Black and White was the game.

  143. @Ron Unz

    I can’t help agreeing with your comment on the MSM assuming some diligent searcher doesn’t doesn’t burrow down to something which suggesst you are wrong.

    Why do the MSM publish what they do? Why I suppose one has to ask in context why obituaries are written the way they are? And of course Why no follow up research.

    When I was at school our senior English master was also the leading local broadsheet’s Education Editor and substantial content provider. His proud boast about the alleged circulation increase on Saturdays he made clear was important to the economics of the paper because it was, after all, published on the back of advertisements. So… in the current and recent American and other media…. what are the motives at work?

    1. There is the big Jewish/Zionist/Israeli factor

    2. Advertisers still

    3. How much is worth investing in researching contestable/controversial facts. This may be particularly important in the case of obituaries. Without going further into it there might also be an editor conscious that speaking evil of the dead will be regarded as bad taste and also raise the question “why do you smear him only when he is dead?”. And if it was a subject of interest but on the backburner – as a 1945 murder could well be – would an editor find the resources at obituary time for a now or never investigation.

    So… there could be humdrum reasons for the otherwise surprising omissions but I express no positive beliefs on the subject and probably wouldn’t eve if I had read as much as you. BTW, even you haven’t quoted the diary which allegedly supported the Patton story, or said anything about the way it was verified.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  144. @Anon

    Fair question, considering the following.

    [MORE]

    The cdc in the last 24 hours released their numbers showing that 2021 saw a whopping .07% increase in our mortality rate over 2020 (covid year one). They not surprisingly blame the increase (approximately 450k extra dead) on drumroll please….covid. Theres a few problems here. The same cdc blamed covid for over 400k deaths IN 2020. So if we had a similar mortality rate or the same overall death totals in 2021, then how the phuk does covid explain 450k more Americans dying in 2021 of any cause? It’s calculated that around 50k Americans are diagnosed with cancer per month. But in 2020 cancer screenings were all canceled, for the most part. Many, like myself speculated that we would see an increase in overall deaths in 2021 due to these guaranteed undiagnosed cancers from 2020. Yet the cdc can only come up with “muh covid” to explain 2021’s extra 450 dead Americans. Huh?
    For context something like 841 per 100k Americans died in 2021, again that aforementioned .07% mortality rate increase over 2020’s 835 per 100k. From 2000-2010 our mortality rates were on par with 2020 and 2021 but no one addresses this fact. Nope, they reach back a few years and find lower mortality rates and say “aha, there’s the increased death totals proving covid exists, thats our proof”! Again ignoring any cancer, heart disease or flu deaths. In fact they ceased to exist. Ain’t no money in non covid classified deaths son. My question is what pandemic did I miss in the “aughts “? Just as many Americans were dying from 2000-2010 then at the 2020/2021 rate.
    In conclusion, with no legitimate testing available, with no “non covid deaths” occurring for 2 years, with no provable isolation of covid19 taken place, with similar mortality rates from just a decade previous, exactly Where’s the proof of this virus or pandemic? Maybe covid exists, I’m not sure. What I’m sure of? I haven’t seen any scientific proof or data either way.

    • Replies: @Anon
  145. gregor says:

    But after carefully considering the responses I feel quite confident that the vast, vast majority of my ultra-controversial claims were correct, at least to the degree of uncertainty with which I had originally expressed them. And even if only 5% of my analysis were accurate, I think the pillars of America’s current world-framework would be severely shaken.

    There is a dependence with the claims as well since it really all comes back to one central issue which is establishment credibility. If that credibility slips in general then numerous establishment claims become immediately suspect. The difficulty is that just because the establishment narrative can be disproved on numerous points, the full truth of the matter can’t necessarily be determined. What then tends to happen is you get many different contradictory theories, many ridiculous, many by possible bad actors, often containing considerable speculation, and most of which must logically be false because they are mutually exclusive. The low quality of these speculations then leads many intelligent people to dismiss the topic entirely even though the establishment version of events is demonstrably or very likely false in many cases.

  146. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    As Ron has shown many times, including in this article, which you really should take the time to read again, the official story worldwide is sometimes a lie. Consider the Holocaust narrative. Not just US officials, but every Western country and a number of non-Western ones, officially believed in since-debunked stories about lampshades made out of human skin and soap made out of human fat. During the decades when these lies were the accepted official story worldwide, any skeptic would be told what you’re basically telling me about COVID, namely, “What? You actually believe there is a worldwide coordinated conspiracy, in which everybody is telling or retailing lies? LOL dude!”

    Yes, that’s exactly what I think. Such widespread official lies have happened. Again, read Ron or re-read him. Ron may have dropped the ball on this particular issue but that’s not because he denies the possibility of widespread official conspiracies generally, as you do.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  147. Nodwink says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Ron is late to the party because he get the vast majority of his information from elite media. It’s a minor miracle that somebody relying on the New York Times etc. for the bulk of their information can work anything out at all.

  148. @Anon

    If you had referred to the sacred 6 million figure so regularly repeated still you might have begun to make a point but to refer to the utter trivia like the soap and lampshade stories as in any way comparable is bizarre. What worldwide consensus of relevant experts was there? (Also they haven’t as I understand it been “debunked” to the point of excluding some distasteful things done by a few people connected to some camps).

    You really should think through what is implied in your extraordinary scenario if you know enough medical scientists and health bureaucrats to be able to form a judgment. But I don’t suppose you do or you wouldn’t have to resort to Holocaust stories which are not remotely comparable.

    At least you didn’t make some silly point out of my typo of 00% for 99%!

    • Replies: @Anon
  149. Sparkon says:
    @Ron Unz

    No. You haven’t bothered looking into the details or reading my articles. All your facts are confused or mistaken.

    I don’t know how you can say that, Ron, when I provided credible citations to support my arguments, while you merely quote yourself and direct me to your articles, most of which I’ve at least skimmed when they were current here at UR.

    Meanwhile, during “the second week of November” the DIA was producing a secret report describing a potentially “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan.

    Would you mind providing a citation, other than the Times of Israel quoting Channel 12, to support your claim that the DIA produced this secret report in the second week of November? Every other U.S. source I’ve read puts the report toward the end of November, e.g.

    As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

    Beyond that, if the first cases didn’t appear until late in November or December, what, pray tell, was the basis for NCMI’s report?

    Based on ABC’s description of the methods and sources being used by the NCMI, I suggest that kind of report would require analysis of more than just a few day’s worth of data on a few patients in order for it to note or claim changes in “patterns of life and business posing a threat to the population,” even using the term “cataclysmic.”

    A few sick patients wouldn’t do that. There must have been a lot more going on than the limited hang outs are telling us.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Wizard of Oz
  150. Ron Unz says:
    @Sparkon

    I don’t know how you can say that, Ron, when I provided credible citations to support my arguments, while you merely quote yourself and direct me to your articles, most of which I’ve at least skimmed when they were current here at UR.

    Like I said, you seem confused. And if you’ve merely “skimmed” some of my articles, that’s hardly surprising since I’m virtually the only person writing on the Internet who has been discussing these issues in analytical detail.

    Beyond that, if the first cases didn’t appear until late in November or December, what, pray tell, was the basis for NCMI’s report?

    Based on ABC’s description of the methods and sources being used by the NCMI, I suggest that kind of report would require analysis of more than just a few day’s worth of data on a few patients in order for it to note or claim changes in “patterns of life and business posing a threat to the population,” even using the term “cataclysmic.”

    A few sick patients wouldn’t do that. There must have been a lot more going on than the limited hang outs are telling us.

    There are only two primary sources of information: the Times of Israel story and the earlier ABC News story. The few other reports quote one or the other. So if you choose to ignore one of the only two sources, you lose a lot of useful information.

    Beyond that, if the first cases didn’t appear until late in November or December, what, pray tell, was the basis for NCMI’s report?

    Based on ABC’s description of the methods and sources being used by the NCMI, I suggest that kind of report would require analysis of more than just a few day’s worth of data on a few patients in order for it to note or claim changes in “patterns of life and business posing a threat to the population,” even using the term “cataclysmic.”

    A few sick patients wouldn’t do that. There must have been a lot more going on than the limited hang outs are telling us.

    Bingo! There was NO legitimate basis for the DIA/NCMI report. That’s why its demonstrable foreknowledge of a potentially “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan is so extraordinarily suspicious.

    The obvious answer is that the DIA unit was actually alerted by the individuals who had been responsible for the outbreak in Wuhan, namely the American conspirators who orchestrated the biowarfare attack.

    I’ve discussed all of this at great length in my series of articles for two years now, and if you’re just too lazy or disinterested to bother reading my articles or watching the video interviews summarizing my analysis, you’re simply not worth my attention.

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

  151. @Sparkon

    You refer to “every other US source” but then quote only ABC. Absent proven reliable ABC and one Israeli source hasn’t it occurred to you that a gang of anti Trumpers got up the story a day took it as far as they could by planting it on ABC and an Israeli TV station?

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  152. Anon[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The point is that things can be and have been covered up by “the experts” and “the officials,” no matter how numerous, varied, and widespread are these experts or officials. Granted, the truth about everything can’t be hidden forever. For example, it only took decades for the truth about the Tet Offensive to be admitted. Even so, decades are decades.

    With regard to COVID, yes, people witnessed a real phenomenon. A nasty strain of the flu or the Andromeda Strain? Ah, there’s the rub! Fauci and the establishment vassals in the medical profession (most of them hopelessly conformist debt slaves – House is a fictional character) said it was the latter. So did the NYT, WashPost, Oprah, Joe Biden, Time Magazine, Dr. Oz, Trump, and all the other clowns and buffoons of the world – a large number indeed! Remember that the Catholic Church agreed for centuries that the world is flat. I don’t believe that narrative was venal, though.

    Don’t obsess about typos. People reading for sense overlook thm.

  153. Anon[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Catdompanj

    Exactly. Has anyone even isolated the virus from a patient sample? Or is it just the same old flu bug with a PR firm? It’s anyone’s guess.

    Doctors told us their hospitals were overflowing with Covid patients, then a few brave enterprising people with cameras visited those hospitals, showing that they were practically empty. Doctors and other people in corrupt countries say a lot of things which can’t be taken at face value.

    https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/crisis-in-america-hospitals-across-the-country-begin-to-close-due-to-lack-of-patients-nurses-and-doctors-being-laid-off/

    • Agree: Catdompanj
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  154. @Wizard of Oz

    Wizz, Chomsky and Herman answered the question thirty odd years ago, in ‘Manufacturing Consent’. The Western MSM is a propaganda system designed to serve the purposes of the ruling elites in the West. The situation today is very much more marked, with the ‘liberal democratic’ West having turned fully totalitarian in information and opinion suppression.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  155. @Achmed E. Newman

    WHAT ‘Chinese way of cutting corners’, Sinophobe?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  156. @Vagrant Rightist

    Malone simply added his considerable expertise and experience to a vital public health debate, for which has was assailed by the full Western MSM witch-hunting pack’s slander, vilification, abuse and lies. That would open a lot of eyes. Most people in the West still believe that MSM journalists are human, or semi-human at worst.

  157. @mulga mumblebrain

    You really can’t help yourself can you when you set direction and press the take-off button?

    The situation today is very much more marked, with the ‘liberal democratic’ West having turned fully totalitarian [sic] in information and opinion suppression.

    Yeah, Ron is going to be arrested any moment and it will be your fault for sitting around at Melbourne’s Lunar Park and firing off random sedition to UR.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  158. @Anon

    Not to mention cbs (perhaps nbc) getting caught using supposed footage from ONE Rome hospital and aired it as an overwhelmed nyc hospital? Then when caught said it was a mistake, then just one week later, reaired the exact same footage as an overwhelmed philadelphia hospital. There certainly were numerous nurses dancing, crying and ppe begging on tik tok videos readily available, maybe they couldve taking some overwhelmed icu video for the media to air? Yet no videos were forthcoming. As you point out, the overwhelmed hospital lamentations were a provable lie.
    Bottom line, when all deaths are classified (monies paid by the feds to hospitals and doctors for any “covid” death or admission) as “covid” deaths, its no wonder there was a .07% uptick from 2020 to 2021. The uptick from 2019 to 2020 was because of a possibly abnormally high FLU year. Just like the 80k flu deaths just a few years earlier that dropped to zero in 2020/2021.
    If covid was real then why the extra \$\$\$\$ from the government for covid admissions and deaths? Why the use of ineffective use of pcr testing? Why did the cdc use numbers derived from these bogus tests, then suddenly stop under Biden, even admitting after a year they couldn’t test for any specific virus? Seems like alot of deceit and outright lying for something that supposedly existed.

  159. @GWashington

    Pretty good with typo-level grammatical slips, huh ?

    Do you know the meaning of the word “pedant” ?

  160. @Director95

    Does that political party even exist? And is that our key problem. Please rationalize this one for me

    No, it does not exist.

    Yes, that is our key problem – and not just in the US but across the White Western world – for without a solution to that problem we have no means of strategic Defence against our enemies, nor any means of constructing an intelligent and effective system of Offence (or Counter-Attack) with which to defeat them.

    Rationalisation complete.

    End-Of-Program.

  161. @ARepli

    If you’re looking for a Stand-up gig here, don’t give up the day job.

  162. @mulga mumblebrain

    Do you ever buy, like stuff??

    I’ve seen it myself in person in a factory that was making, of all things, face diapers. I was there. I will write a review soon on this one 2009 book that explains the why of it much better then I could – Paul Midler’s Poorly Made in China, but you can find a good review of it on John Derbyshire’s site.

    A lack of knowledge from books is one thing, but do you never go to the store?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  163. Sparkon says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Sure, without a copy of the original, dated and signed NCMI report, we’re dealing with hearsay and unicorn flatulence.

    NCMI says no such report exists.

    I asked for an additional source because I thought Ron might have one. He didn’t provide a source for his claim that the report was issued in the first two weeks of November, so I had to dig up that Israeli story.

    Why would those anonymous sources (either four or six) cited by ABC all have gone to the same network, ABC, to tell their story? I’d think whistleblowers with a story like that would want to spread the story around to the other networks as well as to national newspapers and magazines.

    If perchance Ron’s theory is correct, and rogue agent Sgt. Snidely Snotspray managed to sneakily get off a few squirts of long-lasting, delayed action, virus laden goo during the Wuhan military games in October 2019, wouldn’t that have triggered an outbreak already by late October or early November?

    And again, the kind of report described and paraphrased by ABC was not a prediction or warning, but rather a description of an ongoing pandemic, a report which would take weeks or longer to prepare and pass through review before anyone would sign off on it, so the time frame and continuity make no sense at all when the earliest case was thought to be from Nov. 17, later adjusted to early December.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  164. Ron Unz says:
    @Sparkon

    You’re just making yourself look extremely foolish…

    so I had to dig up that Israeli story.

    I’ve cited and linked that Israeli confirmation of the DIA report something like a dozen times in my articles and columns over the last year. So you had to dig it up yourself because you’ve been too lazy to read any of my analysis.

    And the origins of the ABC News story aren’t very mysterious. They probably got a single intelligence leak about the secret DIA report, but given its shocking nature, required heavy confirmation before they would run it. So their Chief Investigative Reporter, Josh Margolin, and the other four named co-authors, went to a bunch of their intelligence sources and got three additional confirmations. With four separate sources saying the same thing, they decided to air the story.

    So we have an ABC News story written by its Chief Investigative Reporter and four co-authors that relies upon four separate intelligence sources, later independently confirmed by Israeli TV. I’d say that’s about as solid as you can get in a media story.

    I think you have a sour-grapes problem. You obviously haven’t bothered reading any of my articles for the last two years, and instead of admitting you should have done so, you’re just pretending that the mountain of evidence I’ve presented doesn’t exist:

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

  165. I was thinking of spending a minute to find Unzian answers to Sparkon in case you hadn’t already thought of them in 15 seconds and started typing. And I’m glad I left it to you because of

    their Chief Investigative Reporter, Josh Margolin, and the other four named co-authors, went to a bunch of their intelligence sources and got three additional confirmations. With four separate sources saying the same thing, they decided to air the story.

    So we have an ABC News story written by its Chief Investigative Reporter and four co-authors that relies upon four separate intelligence sources, later independently confirmed by Israeli TV. I’d say that’s about as solid as you can get in a media

    Perhaps not for the first time you have emphasised the way ABC went about putting together their very important story and, prima facie, you make a case for your theory if there were indeed four existing ABC contacts, and only them, who were approached for confirmation. But what if Josh Matgolin had been sold a story which included the probable caution that few people knew about the report in sufficient detail but that they might surprise it out of A,B and C. And what if the confirmation was in pretty dubious form in at least a couple of the cases? “Well, I’m not the one to ask about this but if X says it you should take it seriously”. And “Well all I’ll say is that it doesn’t surprise me”. Etc.

    In short a serious follow up on your interpretation of the implications of the alleged report requires you to have done your best to interrogate a lot of ABC people, and Times of Israel and Israeli TV station….. Can you even say that none of the people involved at ABC in March/April 2020 would say “oh yeah, we were had. I don’t think we realised the extent to which some people would go to stop Trump”?

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  166. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Director95

    Of course not, so what do we do now? First and most important – we must return dominate political power to a party that is not Anti-white and global-homo and open borders.

    also:

    I have been sharply critical of the American media for at least the last couple of decades. But if someone had predicted a few years ago that a million Americans would die apparently as the result of an American biowarfare attack but that both the mainstream and the alternative media would totally ignore that reality, I would not have believed it possible.

    1) The dominant problem in the US is not discussed, even by the alternate media, as the problem is so obvious and and its solution is so undesirable that the media hide from it. Note that the US and Western European both have this problem.

    Problem:

    [MORE]

    (a) US cities are not economically productive, and cannot be supported on current US income. Remediation thus far has been to institute an indirect command economy (“mixed economy” in political jargon). The indirect command economy has, at Federal command, de-industrialized the US by essentially exchanging US intellectual capital in engineering and science, also manufacturing equipment and operating knowledge (“technology”) for income needed to support US cities. Further, it has imported entire foreign populations that have, in practice, only been able to stay alive by collecting Federalized welfare in large cities. Since about 1970, these populations have been driving out the remaining urban taxable base, making increased non-urban derived welfare payments necessary.
    (b) The US political order (variations on the 1930s “New Deal”) is urban, with a minor component of rural ethnic. The Red/Blue maps of the Trump era show this plainly.
    https://i0.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019.02.28_Bill-Frey_Map1-final-version.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1

    Solution: The cities have to go. So do the populations that can’t be supported. So does the urban based political system.

    Comment:
    Obviously, the urban based political system is trying to avoid implementing the solution. Unfortunately, its choice back in the 1960s was not to re-make the US cities (as Singapore re-made itself, as the Chinese re-made China) into productive cities. It was to rely on the poverty industry to generate urban income. In practice, the urban income generated was insufficient to so much as maintain urban infrastructure, or prevent the welfare districts from becoming something close to Hell.

    Every effort, including the biowar effort that Ron Unz describes, is an effort to get money for US urban support. Note also that these efforts have become counterproductive since at least the 2008 financial panic.

    OK — ” Of course not, so what do we do now?” Standard stuff: organize while the cities fail, and urban based politics becomes weaker. Trump’s 2020 election was an harbinger of urban political failure. ” First and most important – we must return dominate political power to a party that is not Anti-white and global-homo and open borders.” Texas is considering use of its National Guard to prevent further immigration across the Texas/Mexico border. This too is a harbinger.
    Transitions through failure are a difficult time, often producing large civil casualties. Consider the past three transitions: Revolutionary War, Civil War, WW era. What you appear to want is a transition with low casualties. I want that also, if only because I’d almost certainly be one of the casualties. Neither of us are likely to get what we want this time around. The Ukraine War appears likely to kick off the high casualty part of the transition through food shortage alone. Note that the entire world system (“globalism”) has become unstable, and that oligarchic efforts to institute a command economy are as unlikely to be successful as are biological warfare efforts.[1] Involvement of the entire world might make this transition especially high casualty. Definitely not what I want, also definitely possible.

    So perhaps at some point, the truth will indeed out.

    Consider how long it took for the true nature of WW II to come out (Suvorov’s writings, popularized by unz.com started the flood): about 7 decades!! The urban problem and its resolution will likely take a comparable time.

    Darwin’s daughter asked the crucial question: “Why does it have to be so cruel?”. In Christianity, this is called the Problem of Pain. So far, no generally accepted answers in about 2022 years.

    1] The old USSR had a biowar program that, at one point, infected an entire Soviet city with mutant flu because some idiot didn’t change the lab’s air filters correctly. Now the US has metaphorically kicked its economy over the cliff with its own biowar efforts (CDC funded, it seems), and might give it another kick if its biowar labs in Ukraine are hit by a wild shot. Seems to me that biowar is a bad investment.

  167. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    But what if Josh Matgolin had been sold a story…

    I repeat: We have an ABC News story that was prepared by its Chief Investigative Reporter and four other bylined journalists and that relied upon four separate intelligence sources. It described a secret DIA report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan that was provided to the DIA leadership, the Pentagon Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the White House, which “were briefed multiple times.” The information eventually ended up in the President’s Daily Briefing. The story was aired by the ABC News Chief White House Correspondent.

    When the Secretary of Defense was asked about the report on camera, he said he couldn’t remember.

    Later, Israeli TV independently confirmed that the secret DIA report had been distributed to Israel and NATO allies.

    Taken together, this is about as strong, factually specific, and heavily sourced and confirmed a story as the mainstream media could possibly produce. Here’s the link to the story itself and my video interview from February discussing and highlighting it.



    Video Link

  168. @Ron Unz

    I’ve now watched those videos se really times and if I could get a bet on no smoking gun report turning up within 5 years I would add a couple of noughts to my wager that no such report existed. The clue to its anti-Trump origin can be found at many places in the way the broadcast was framed. Apart from that it seems very odd that such a mid-November report should have described so much that wasn’t true then and might never be.

    Ah, but the explanation for that is that it wasn’t actually produced in mid November. As you suggest it was a butt covering effort by whichever intelligence agencies thought they needed to cover butts. (When I gave your story some credence I hypothesised that it could be an effort by a downgraded agency to get itself on the White House go-to list again but you didn’t like that because it didn’t suggest that the report was based on important truth).

    Another completely unexplained implausible aspect of your version is the connection between your rogue actors and the lowly ejected-from-White-House (by John Bolton!) Medical intelligence agency which allegedly had the foreknowledge that none of the many intelligence agencies amongst which it circulated ground it in their interest to bring to the President’s attention. (What! No backstabbing rivals? All collegial sweetness and light?).

    Of course there might have been a report but the date quoted by the ABC was wrong. So it wouldn’t have been the smoking gun. And there are several reasons of embarrassment – to Trump, White House Staff or Intel agencies – that might have led such a report not to be admitted to. Just for one: it could have been the biggest wake up call in the President’s briefing notes in early January that he didn’t bother to read.

    If you wanted to be able to withstand cross-examination on your theory you really should be able to show that you had made the follow up inquiries I suggested.

  169. Anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Perhaps some day Ron Unz will view the mRNA experiment as a contributing factor to his COVID-bioweapon theory. It’s a one-two punch.

    And you’ll know that day has come when he runs to the front of the parade, grabs the flag, and acts like he was leading it all along – the same with other comedians these days like Dore & Maher.

  170. Anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @GWashington

    It’s “its”, not “it’s”. There is a difference between the two words.

    You’re gonna make a great ex-wife someday, don’t let anyone tell you different.

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  171. @Craig Nelsen

    All the norms change when the Dollar fails, and that’s in progress right now.

    You do not know and will never know who the Remnant are, or where they are, or how many of them there are, or what they are doing or will do. Two things you do know, and no more: first that they exist; second, that they will find you.
    Albert J. Nock

    Necessity will cause people to start protecting themselves when the savages act up. One incident spreads like wildfire and like thinkers will start to act independent of law. Once that starts, there’s no shutting it off. The cops will be protecting their families and the military will stop taking orders after a while, once they realize that they are fighting the decent US population.

    This time is going to be different.

  172. @geokat62

    But as Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was “worth it”.

    It’s the “worth it” mentality that pervades the gov’t and especially the more rogue elements.

  173. @Abbybwood

    There’s been talk of a tactical nuclear strike, of course from the Russians.

    That steel works hides lots of crimes and lots of people that shouldn’t be there. Would it be so far fetched to have the US or NATO hit it to eliminate the evidence (think 9/11)? It doesn’t have to be a nuke. It could be one of those bunker busters the US used in Afghanistan to reach the depths of that facility. From the US perspective, killing lots of Russians would be a bonus.

  174. @Achmed E. Newman

    Corners are cut everywhere. Your assertion that it is a Chinese characteristic is racist, as one would expect. The quality of Chinese manufactures and the diversity and the standard of technology involved has steadily risen, and is now at or near the world’s highest standards, and, of course, it is the world’s premier manufacturing, innovating (by numbers of patents)and trading nation by far. But you still have finance, ‘tittietainment’, weapons and pornography.

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  175. @Wizard of Oz

    Come on Wizz-you might think that a massively concentrated MSM operating as a propaganda system, with 100% Groupthink on all subjects dear to a our Yanqui Masters, and social media platforms ruthlessly censoring all opinion contrary to the Globalist Party Line, is ‘freedom of opinion’, but that’s only because you approve of it. You’re not a convincing witness, I fear. People are not, yet (Assange a notable exception)arrested but they are suppressed, their opinions disappeared, denied the oxygen of publicity and ‘Memory Holed’.

  176. @mulga mumblebrain

    Your assertion that it is a Chinese characteristic is racist, as one would expect.

    Of course! We’re all racist, the Chinese to an even greater extent. They want to pick on “the other” so much that they even discriminate against their own Han people due to geography, for cryin’ out loud. Who (else) does that?!

    No, the quality of consumer goods exported to America has gone WAY down. There was actually stuff that lasted a few years made about 20 years ago, even clothing (got flannel shirts from Wal-Mart back in that era that lasted 10 years). That’s most assuredly not the case today.

    That may just be a reversing of the flow of the crap, as with their greater status now, they may be shipping us the crap, as the decent stuff stays on the domestic market.

    10 years ago, the case was that the boss of the company told the saleswoman I know that she (the boss) would not use the filter material (the whole point) in a big batch of the face masks sold in the domestic market, to save some money. The boss had the good stuff shipped to the European customers, but even then a whole container (about a million pieces) was rejected for poor quality, returned and shipped back across the ocean one time.

    Anyway, you seem very dim when it comes to the matter of Cheap China-made Crap. You should, and other readers may want to, check out that Peak Stupidity topic key to learn more of the effects and causes, though again, the book I linked to above does a better job on the causes. In fairness, it’s not necessarily an inherent Chinese thing to cut corners, but it IS the culture as of today.

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  177. Anonymous[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Perhaps the reason the Chinese are so paranoid, and extreme in their covid measures is they feel something very bad may be be coming from America. (Again?)

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  178. @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t know and cannot tell whether your racist (I’m not, so there goes yourself-serving apologia, painting others with your brush)essence grows from your fear and hatred of the Chinese, which you don’t bother hiding, or just from moronic pig ignorance. I suppose there is a vicious cycle at work here. You’re the type that I have long been convinced will destroy humanity.

  179. @Anonymous

    Bullshit. They are not paranoid about the silly virus. It’s political and it’s a show of Totalitarian force. If you’d read the Peak Stupidity, you’d have already known that.

  180. @mulga mumblebrain

    Sorry*, but there was no apology in that comment you replied to. I actually like Chinese people quite a bit. I don’t want this country overwhelmed by them, and mainly I don’t like the CCP and any other Totalitarian governments for that matter.

    However, if you don’t know that Chinese made retail goods are of poor quality, say, compared to American goods right up through the 1980s at least, then you must never buy ANYTHING. It’s great you’re living off the grid like that, but don’t write about stuff you have no clue about. It’s making you sound like an idiot.

    .

    * This “sorry” is not an apology either, just my condolences that you’re too stupid to understand.

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  181. @mulga mumblebrain

    Question for you: Have you ever been to China? I’ve been there 11 times, once for 6 weeks. Ron Unz has not either. This may explain why both of you are often full of shit about the place.

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  182. Anonymous[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carroll price

    I believe that the final significant advance in science was Jensen’s work in microelectronics, with first significant result in 1947. Nothing since has matched that work.

    In 1942, the Manhattan Project was started, apparently at the behest of the Jewish establishment, and staffed largely by that establishment at the Physicist level.
    In 1945, Hitler fell before nuclear weapons could be used against him, and the Jewish establishment suddenly became anti-nuclear weapons. Propaganda started to emphasize that “physical science that had advanced past achievements in sociology and ethics, and that science should be suppressed.” Ron Unz’s collection of old Astounding Science Fiction captures much of that propaganda. although J. Campbell, editor, was somewhat opposed to it. Another archive is at: http://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/AST.htm and may be downloaded at the request of internet servers in some countries, such as Algeria.

    I believe that 1947’s solid state physics is the historical marker for the end of science. I’ve solved a few important problems during my career, and in every case the results were suppressed in about the same way that Trump’s 2022 election was suppressed: abusive speech coupled with a refusal to discuss the real problem and the proposed solution. I’ve seen the same sort of thing happen to the Biosphere, Cold Fusion (which might or might not be real, but was rejected out of hand), HBD, and more recently to the testing for and detection of COVID. I’ve also seen the reproducibility crisis. This article ( https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/03/31/reproducibility-crisis-15446 ) attempts to solve the reproducibility crisis by asserting that there is no reliable way to measure the subjects studied, so there is no reproducibility crisis. In other words, reality is ineffable and unknown, and must remain that way. Science is not possible, only differing opinions, perhaps to be settled by Kuhn’s political process.

    In 1960, Thomas Kuhn used a Hegelian framework to suggest that science was not progressive and not rational, but rather a series of Hegelian “paradigms”, new ways of thinking about the universe that were incommensurate with previous understandings, of unknown origin, and independent of logic. The new ways of thought were seldom adopted by the established academic, were often adopted by the younger academic, and eventually dominated through sheer attrition.

    By 1974, we were getting articles like this:
    Brush, “Should the History of Science Be Rated X? The way scientists behave (according to historians) might not be a good model for students”, Science, 1974″.
    Complete text of article: http://sisne.org/Disciplinas/Grad/EvolConcFis/Should%20the%20history%20of%20science%20be%20rated%20X.pdf

    By 2021, articles like this: This article ( https://www.acsh.org/news/2021/03/31/reproducibility-crisis-15446 ) attempts to solve the reproducibility crisis by asserting that there is no reliable way to measure the subjects studied, so there is no reproducibility crisis. In other words, reality is ineffable and unknown, and must remain that way. Science is not possible, only differing opinions, perhaps to be settled by Kuhn’s political process. Science may not be possible, but is is an iron rice bowl, and is defended from change like a dog defends a meaty bone.

    Here’s a simple explanation of the state of fundamental Physics (change you-tube to youtube in the following URL: (https://www.you-tube.com/watch?v=oZ7jwevZbb4)

    And in 2022 we have Durhan University, UK, mandating that its mathematicians must “decolonialize” mathematics by considering the race and origin of people they cite.

    Science has become politics, no more, and Fauci’s behavior is more the rule than the exception.

    Science could be reborn, but the rebirth would take a very thorough reorganization. Perhaps the pending use of tactical nuclear weapons, the impending global famine/near-famine, and the dissolution of the present urban based political systems (together with the dissolution of the present cities and global trade routes) will suffice, although it might take a few years or decades or centuries.

  183. @Achmed E. Newman

    A Sinophobe abroad-how inspiring.

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  184. @Achmed E. Newman

    See, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Like a typical Western supremacist Orientalist you attach a Western term, ‘totalitarian’, to a Chinese government. You’re just pig ignorant, yet arrogant-the Western disease. PS The Chinese have NO intention of ‘overwhelming’ you. You can stop looking under the bed before you retire for the night.

  185. Anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    The Chinese have NO intention of ‘overwhelming’ you.

    Do you have a bond posted that could be collected by “somebody” if the Chinese do, in fact, have an intention of “overwhelming” that “somebody”?

    No? Then your opinion is not for anybody else to believe.

  186. @mulga mumblebrain

    Do you agree that China could probably Finlandise Australia with the flick of a little finger and be able to insist on Pine Gap being closed or its use shared, and no bases for anything American and military, air force or naval in Australia?

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  187. @mulga mumblebrain

    So, “no” then. Thanks.

    I told Ron Unz on here sometime in ’19 that he really ought to go there. He’s got the money, and he could have brought a Chinese friend to really show him what’s what and to translate. Alas, the PanicFest was created, and now there’s the redux in China. He missed out, IMO.

  188. @mulga mumblebrain

    Chinese Totalitarianism has no intention of overwhelming me, only overwhelming the Chinese people with control. Do you not know the definition of that word?

    Now, we HAVE been overwhelmed economically, but that’s almost totally the American Globalist Big-Biz, Big-Gov people’s fault, not China’s. They just keep on keepin’ on, crankin’ out that Cheap China-made Crap.

  189. @Wizard of Oz

    We were Finlandised by the USA decades ago. Didn’t you notice, or did you realise that social and political ‘advance’ required kissing Yankee arse? China has never overthrown an Australian PM, as the USA did with Whitlam and Rudd. Does the Chinese Embassy run a stable of Quisling ‘protected sources’ as does the USA?

  190. @mulga mumblebrain

    BS. If we are Findlandised we have done it to ourselves. Not even Whitlam believed the garbage about the US getting rid of his government and the idea that it would even have wanted get rid of Rudd who had offended China is ridiculous.

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  191. @mulga mumblebrain

    You wrote:

    China has never overthrown an Australian PM, as the USA did with Whitlam and Rudd.

    That the CIA and the Anglo-Zionist empire in general were instrumental in overthrowing Whitlam is indisputable. Only a fool would think otherwise. (Needless to say, Dunce of Oz earns his moniker by proving he is one of those fools in comment # 192).

    As for the U.S getting rid of Rudd, I think you’re off the mark there.

    Kevin Rudd was the most grovelling, snivelling, obsequious servant of the Anglo-Zionist empire P.M that Australia ever had.

    Mulga, have a look at this article titled ‘Rudd urges international unity on Libya’, from the time when Rudd was Foreign Minister, in between stints as P.M (ie: Prime Minion of the Zio cabal):

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/rudd-urges-international-unity-on-libya-20110506-1ebbp.html

    The first paragraph reads:

    Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd has urged world leaders to stay the course in Libya “until the job is done”, rejecting calls for a timeline on the NATO-led intervention.

    If EVER there was a country that had no dog in the race (as far as the goings on in Libya was concerned in the lead up to Gaddafi being sodomised with a sword in 2011), then Australia was that country.

    But, there was Kevin Rudd going from country to country in early 2011 URGING FOR NATO INTERVENTION to depose Gaddafi.

    Needless to say, Rudd was following instructions from his Anglo-Zionist masters in that regard.
    Australia has never had a bought-and-paid-for SPINELESS PIECE OF SHIT like Rudd at the helm – and that’s saying something in view of some the filth Australia has had in recent years like Gillard and ScuMo.
    Here’s Gillard at her subservient best (in cahoots with Josh ‘Rabid Zionist’ Frydenberg) in relation to the 9/11 False Flag:

    Yes Mulga, you heard right. Gillard congratulated a smug looking Fry-dem-burgers (who still had hair in those days), on his FIRST QUESTION in the House of Reps as a lowly M.P.

    And now he’s the Deputy P.M. How’s that for being rewarded for sticking to the official Zio 9/11 narrative ?

    The individual Frydenberg refers to in his speech is Kevin Bracken, who made those comments about 9/11.
    Bracken is a great and courageous Australian. I had the good fortune to speak to him briefly many years ago and what was done to him was scandalous.
    His fellow union reps abandoned him. He lost his well paid top tier job and was kicked out of the movement.

    This is proof that the Union movement in Australia has prostrated itself to the same Anglo-Zionist masters that control the One Party* tyranny that rules this country.
    (*Australia is ruled by a one party tyranny that has two slightly differing factions. ie: the LNP and the Labour parties – both of which are controlled by the Anglo-Zionist empire).

    In other words, much like the U.S, U.K and Canada.

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  192. @mulga mumblebrain

    Further, in relation to Kevin Rudd, I’ll share with you what Mark Latham had to say about him as quoted in the book ‘The Latham Diaries’, in case you didn’t read it 17 years ago.

    Rudd had this Napoleonic complex from the very beginning and thought he was leadership material – even though the vast majority of Labour MP’s thought he was an eff’n idiot. (When the Labour leadership ballot was contested in 2003, Latham won with about forty odd votes, Beazley got 1 or two votes less and Rudd got 3 votes I recollect),

    When Latham was the Opposition Leader, Rudd would constantly be making up scurrilous gossip to discredit the former, in the hope that this would elevate him to the leadership.

    One day Latham called Rudd to his office, who at this time had some Mickey Mouse portfolio in the Shadow Ministry.
    Latham told him words to the effect:

    ‘Kevin, I know you’ve been spreading lies about me and trying to smear me’. (Which Rudd denied).

    ‘But now you’ve gone too far. I have proof you did such and such’ (Rudd denies it again).

    ‘Kevin, you sent an email to this MP (said MP was standing in the room to bear witness to this conversation), saying these things. (Latham shows Rudd the email he sent full of malicious and false assertions).

    Latham goes on to say:

    Kevin, I’m sacking you from the Shadow Ministry. In fact, the only reason you were in it in the first place was because YOU POLLED WELL WITH PEOPLE WHO HAD NEVER ACTUALLY MET YOU IN PERSON.

    Kevin then started crying like a little girl.

    F.F.S, he wasn’t even sacked from an ACTUAL job. He wasn’t sacked from the Ministry in a serving government. It was, after all, a SHADOW ministry. ie: a pretend minister.

    Imagine if when Rudd was P.M, Australia was confronted by a real dilemma, one that required steely determination. I mean, the guy would just start to cry and fall to pieces.

    Hardly the sort of person that should be leading a nation. Hardly someone that would inspire confidence in his underlings.

    Bottom Line: Kevin Rudd is an EFF’n idiot in real life. He has NO FRIENDS. (That’s not an exaggeration).
    Partly because he’s an eff’n two timer that never stood by anyone, never stood for anything, was always an unscrupulous piece-of-shit.
    Also, he has no friends because he has nothing to offer. He’s dull, he’s not sporty/into cars/never been a chick magnet etc, so nothing to chat about as blokes do when they get together.

    He’s just an out-and-out fuckwit. How anyone liked this guy/had anything positive to say about him AT ANY POINT in the last 20 years, is beyond me.

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  193. You (Ron Unz) say that “5 million people” have died from “Covid-19” – but this is a condition (“Covid-19”) which no-one is able to define. They just say that the condition is generic symptoms of disease – a cough, fever, ‘brain fog’, tiredness, and all other generic symptoms. There aren’t any distinct signs of the C-19 condition that present in autopsy results. This means there is no evidence of any condition “Covid-19”, and you are talking rubbish.

    You might as well as say the ‘evil spirits from the forest’ – as detected via a PCR test which highlights the presence of a meaningless sequence of 200 RNA base pairs – have caused 5 billion deaths. The symptoms that the ‘evil spirits’ induce are all the genetic symptoms that humans commonly exhibit – high temperature, coughing, paleness, heart problems and so on.

    This is a scam like Witch Doctors operate. They identify a terrible single malevolent entity that is capable of causing all illness in humans, and then offer a remedy to it. A scientific approach is to observe distinct conditions – distinct sets of symptoms that present in distinct sequences perhaps – and then try to work out the cause of these specific conditions (e.g. Measles, Dengue Fever, etc). In contrast, the ‘Covid-19’ condition has never been defined so we can’t say it exists.

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  194. Anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fatmanscoop

    This is a scam like Witch Doctors operate. They identify a terrible single malevolent entity that is capable of causing all illness in humans, and then offer a remedy to it.

    COVID-19 is nothing more than an operation that Jews have perfected over the millennia, that of ‘Poisoning the Well’. However, it takes a whole lot of willing gentiles to pull it off.

  195. @Truth Vigilante

    Rudd is crap, no doubt-a typical product of the ANU. He thought he was a heavy hitter, but when he pissed off the Zionazis by expelling a MOSSAD goon from the Zionazi Embassy in Canberra (obviously a set-up by ‘intelligence’ who ‘recommended’ it)and changing votes at the UN, from groveling obeisance to Israel, to abstaining, the US mobilised its ‘protected sources’ in the ALP, led by Shorten, and he was toppled after ONE negative opinion poll. To be replaced by the WORST Labor PM ever, Gillard. For some reason friendlyjordes likes Rudd.
    And Latham is insane. The mighty ALP, from Whitlam hobnobbing with Mao and Zhou, to Kimberley Kitching leading the Sinophobe racists in open and friendly co-operation with pond-life like Eric Abetz. Fifty glorious years of utter decay.

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  196. @Truth Vigilante

    Rudd was, is and ever will be a smug, God-bothering, vacuole. But he pissed off Israel, remember, by changing votes at the UN from groveling support for Israel to abstaining, and by expelling a MOSSAD goon from the Israeli Embassy, on the ‘recommendation’ of Australian ‘intelligence’ He was so arrogant he didn’t see that it was a set-up. Cue Shorten and the other ‘protected sources’ of the US Embassy.

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  197. @Wizard of Oz

    The US role in offing Whitlam is unarguable. Whitlam’s public utterances are irrelevant. He no doubt enjoyed reaching his nineties. Rudd was offed by US Embassy ‘protected sources’ (are you one?)in the ALP, led by Shorten, for pissing off Israel. And he was not rabid enough over China, and spoke Chinese, rendering him ‘unreliable’. C minus.

  198. I don’t remember Rudd passing off Israel and certainly not in a way which would lead US Embassy people to intervene. If you remind me and I accept that Rudd had offended Israel I would still want to know how they achieved it. I recall a senior Liberal Minister telling me of a conversation he had with a Queensland Labor MP in which, after Rudd had begun making an impression in Canberra, my friend expressed favourable view of Rudd. The Queensland Labor man said “You won’t say that when you get to know him. You’ll hate him as much as we do.”

    In short Rudd was only going to be supported if he was the best bet for winning an election and he was down in the polls.

    As for Whitlam I don’t know where you think there was room for an American contribution to his downfall which, by November 1976 was thoroughly over
    determined. I got to know virtually all the main participants and an old school friend worked for the GG Kerr and it was clear that the inappropriate contacts he had, if they were inappropriate, were with Barwick and Mason, both CJs.

  199. @mulga mumblebrain

    Ah I see you have given a part answer to NY q. But how do you think Shorten acted on anything from the US Embassy?. What politicians care about is holding their seats and building their careers after that.

  200. @Ron Unz

    Here’s another way your theory can be regarded as tested in the near future.

    Hitherto you have given plausible reasons why China would not accuse the US of starting the pandemic. Now that Covid 19 is causing billions of dollars damage to the Chinese economy it can surely be expected that a claim for damages against the US or against nominated suggested rogues should be made in some court.
    No doubt every jurisdictional objection would be raised but, against that, and in order to get ate evidence through discovery and subpoenas enterprising American lawyers could beat up plausible ways of getting at least some of the issues before the courts. Even adverse rulings could be grist for the mill and it wouldn’t have to be the Chinese state that was plaintiff. Every defensive move that avoided substantive proof that a case based on your theory was wrong in fact would serve China’s ends.

    How long do you think we have to wait before we conclude that there is no belief in your theory in China?

  201. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Now that Covid 19 is causing billions of dollars damage to the Chinese economy it can surely be expected that a claim for damages against the US or against nominated suggested rogues should be made in some court.

    As usual, you’re being totally ridiculous…

    The Chinese obviously don’t have hard legal proof, and America controls the global media and international legal system, so what good would such accusations do?

    Back in early 2020, the Iranian government and media publicly accused America of the Covid biowarfare attack. Their former president sent a formal letter of protest to the United Nations. What good did any of that do? America controls the UN and just dismissed the Iranians as saying crazy things.

    The Russians have supposedly found strong evidence that America was funding biowarfare labs in Ukraine, supposedly preparing illegal biowarfare attacks on Russia. What good have those Russian accusations done? The media has just ignored them all.

    If the documented Russian evidence of illegal American biowarfare has been ignored, why couldn’t everyone just ignore the circumstantial Chinese evidence about Covid?

    It seems virtually certain that America illegally used biowarfare during the Korean War. Was America ever punished? Should the Koreans and Chinese sue America over that?

  202. That first cover is reminiscent of the chapel ceiling at Thanks-Giving Square in Dallas:

  203. @Ron Unz

    Not ridiculous at all. This is the sort of thing I have seen growing for decades to the point where “lawfare” is a common quasi political practice. Why do you think the Chinese government not having “hard legal proof” has got *anything* to do with a decision to litigate or to be susceptible to persuasion by some of America’s more imaginative litigators. Just the pleadings lodged in Court would free up anyone afraid of a libel suit to repeat the allegations in them and the next steps, such as discovery, in litigation would provide a constant flow of anti American propaganda to splash and dribble around the world. They need something in the way of a rational case to get that off the ground, but not much.

    America controls the global media and international legal system, so what good would such accusations do?

    Now that is a ridiculous overstatement. Just as your later statement that America controls the UN is breathtakingly so. Forget about the Korean War even if no statute of limitation applies. It is better by far for China to complain about something which everyone knows and cares about now, if it wants to get attention.

    For China winning actual damages would be a big plus but increasing the number of countries which do not vote with the US in the very much uncontrolled UN General Assembly would be worthwhile and help with progress towards more such deals as China has just signed with the Solomon Islands.

    Think it through with the help of sharp lawyers. Think about the procedural devices the plaintiffs are going to use to try and prove the existence of the notorious smoking gun. Before the US government can hope to persuade courts that the critical report didn’t exist there would be a stoush with ABC News if it didn’t just collapse and admit unprofessional incompetence or political partisanship. But you are right about what the Chinese government will actually do because it doesn’t believe your theory and can see your “smoking gun” as the most obvious anti Trump ploy.

  204. @Ron Unz

    The Wizz likes to pretend that ‘The Rule of Law’ and the ‘Rules-Based International Order’ actually exist, when the USA and its stooges are the most lawless thugs that humanity ever produced.

  205. @Wizard of Oz

    Have you been at the vanilla essence again? If China sued the USA, there would be the greatest negative MSM lie-fest and race-baiting crusade ever. All the Chinese need is to know themselves, and take measures to prepare for the inevitable, genocidal, Western onslaught that IS coming.

  206. @Wizard of Oz

    I told you Wizz-are you feigning dementia? Changed UN votes and expelling a MOSSAD agent from the Israeli Embassy. The reason for expelling the MOSSAD agent was the repeated theft by Israel of Australian passport identities, used in the murder of Hamas agent Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai, in January 2010. Israel had stolen Australian passport identities before, but had ‘promised’ not to do so again. A Zionazi ‘promise’. Up there with ‘pregnant virgin’.
    Clyde Cameron reminded Whitlam that Kerr was US property, since WW2, when he became an asset of the OSS. Whitlam replied that he could handle ‘Old Silver’, a big mistake. Read Pilger’s ‘A Secret Country’.

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  207. Anonymous[532] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I don’t know and cannot tell whether your racist (I’m not, so there goes yourself-serving apologia, painting others with your brush) essence grows from your fear and hatred of the Chinese, which you don’t bother hiding, or just from moronic pig ignorance.

    Gee, psychoanalysis and vaguely threatening insult all packaged into one.

    Q: Dr., what’s wrong with me?
    A: You’re fat.
    Q: I want another opinion!
    A: You’re stupid.

  208. @mulga mumblebrain

    You seem to credit the US with greater competence and power than I do not less when looking back to Rudd and Whitlam. You should apply a political Occam’s Razor.

  209. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    … and America controls the global media and international legal system

    America… or Weimerica?

    Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media

    http://historyreviewed.best/index.php/six-jewish-companies-own-96-of-the-worlds-media/

  210. @Wizard of Oz

    Dunce of Oz writes:

    As for Whitlam I don’t know where you think there was room for an American contribution to his downfall

    Is it any wonder you have that well earned ‘Dunce’ moniker ?

    The Governor General is of course the Queen’s representative.
    Needless to say, some Talmudic misfit within the City of London got Queen Lizzie on the phone and told her that Whitlam had to go.
    And, compliant puppet that she is, Liz told ‘Kerr the Cur’ to axe Gough.

    At the end of the day, what difference does it make which specific entity within the Anglo-Zionist empire threw Whitlam under the bus ?
    All of them are subservient to the same Zionist Usury Banking Cartel.

    • Replies: @WIzard of Oz
  211. @Ron Unz

    I thought the conclusion you reached in your article was that though the US definitely had a biowarfare program during the Korean war, and we exhibited strange behavior (like painting frogs or rats or whatever unnatural colors to make it appear that they had been subjected to our biological weapons, dropping feather bombs, etc.) we hadn’t actually used our biological weapons against the enemy during that particular conflict. We were using psychological warfare in trying to spook the koreans and the chinese into believing that we may have used biological weapons, rather than actually using them. Is it your opinion that we actually used biological weapons during the korean war against the enemy (rather than against ourselves, as in the San Francisco bay fog incident or the wheat rust accidental release)?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  212. Ron Unz says:
    @bombthe3gorgesdam

    I thought the conclusion you reached in your article was that though the US definitely had a biowarfare program during the Korean war, and we exhibited strange behavior (like painting frogs or rats or whatever unnatural colors to make it appear that they had been subjected to our biological weapons, dropping feather bombs, etc.) we hadn’t actually used our biological weapons against the enemy during that particular conflict.

    Not at all. You really should reread the article more carefully, since in some respects it’s so relevant to the current matter under debate:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-waging-biological-warfare/

    There seems absolutely overwhelming evidence that we used illegal biological weapons against the North Koreans and the Chinese, with the only question being how extensive the attacks had been.

    I tend to follow Baker in believing that after an early round of biowarfare attacks partly carried out by the CIA, we then later launched psychological warfare attacks meant to convince the enemy that they were under a second, massive wave of biowarfare attacks, relying their prior experience. But other historians argue that the second wave of attacks was real as well.

    • Thanks: bombthe3gorgesdam
  213. JR Foley says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    I think it began in the Labs situated in the Western Ukraine —which one of the 35 biolabs is the question. We likely have some characters from Ukraine going to Wuhan and earlier being on the Shiro Isshi scholarship Harbin 731 Team at Fort Detrick and then some of these foul were to fly to Russia but being they were Ukrainian got mixed up and landed in Wuhan.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  214. @JR Foley

    There is a number of epidemic diseases afflicting various livestock in the USA, including pigs and fowl, causing huge cullings, the spread of which is being attributed to birds, overflying. Coincidence, of course.

  215. I’ve been observing a pattern in the columns written by Ron Unz
    40%-70% percent of his writings is just shouting-out his old columns he wrote, the rest of the content being a watered down conspiracy theories or in few cases original ideas

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  216. Ron Unz says:
    @Jack Headwalker

    I’ve been observing a pattern in the columns written by Ron Unz
    40%-70% percent of his writings is just shouting-out his old columns he wrote, the rest of the content being a watered down conspiracy theories or in few cases original ideas

    Sure, there’s an element of truth in that…

    Over the last year or two, I’d say about 1/3 of my columns have primarily been promotions of my previous work or analysis, another 1/3 have been compilations or extensions, and only 1/3 have primarily been new material. That’s partly because such new material often requires a great deal of time spent on reading and analysis, sometimes being closer to writing a book than merely an article.

    And that’s also closely related to why politicians tend to give the same stump-speech over and over again—a certain fraction of the people who missed it at one point, may encounter it at another.

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