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Leon Trotsky-Lev Davidovich Bronstein (1879-1940), 100 anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution, 1917-2017
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Although I always had a great interest in history, I naively believed what I read in my textbooks, and therefore regarded American history as just too bland and boring to study.

By contrast, one land I found especially fascinating was China, the world’s most populous country and its oldest continuous civilization, with a tangled modern history of revolutionary upheaval, then suddenly reopened to the West during the Nixon Administration and under Deng’s economic reforms starting to reverse decades of Maoist economic failure.

In 1978 I took a UCLA graduate seminar on the rural Chinese political economy, and probably read thirty or forty books during that semester. E.O. Wilson’s seminal Sociobiology: The New Synthesis had just been published a couple of years earlier, reviving that field after decades of harsh ideological suppression, and with his ideas in the back of my mind, I couldn’t help noticing the obvious implications of the material I was reading. The Chinese had always seemed a very smart people, and the structure of China’s traditional rural peasant economy produced Social Darwinist selective pressure so thick that you could cut it with a knife, thus providing a very elegant explanation of how the Chinese got that way. A couple of years later in college, I wrote up my theory while studying under Wilson, and then decades afterward dug it out again, finally publishing my analysis as How Social Darwinism Made Modern China.

With the Chinese people clearly having such tremendous inherent talent and their potential already demonstrated on a much smaller scale in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore, I believed there was an excellent chance that Deng’s reforms would unleash enormous economic growth, and sure enough, that was exactly what happened. In the late 1970s, China was poorer than Haiti, but I always told my friends that it might come to dominate the world economically within a couple of generations, and although most of them were initially quite skeptical of such an outrageous claim, every few years they became a little less so. The Economist had long been my favorite magazine, and in 1986 they published an especially long letter of mine emphasizing the tremendous rising potential of China and urging them to expand their coverage with a new Asia Section; the following year, they did exactly that.

These days I feel tremendous humiliation for having spent most of my life being so totally wrong about so many things for so long, and I cling to China as a very welcome exception. I can’t think of a single development during the last forty years that I wouldn’t have generally expected back in the late 1970s, with the only surprise having been the total lack of surprises. About the only “revision” I’ve had to make in my historical framework is that I’d always casually accepted the ubiquitous claim that Mao’s disastrous Great Leap Forward of 1959-61 had caused 35 million or more deaths, but I’ve recently encountered some serious doubts, suggesting that such a total could be considerably exaggerated, and today I might admit the possibility that only 15 million or fewer had died.

 

But although I always had a great interest in China, European history was even more fascinating to me, with the political interplay of so many conflicting states and the huge ideological and military upheavals of the twentieth century.

In my unjustified arrogance, I also sometimes relished a sense of seeing obvious things that magazine or newspaper journalists got so completely wrong, mistakes which often slipped into historical narratives as well. For example, discussions of the titanic 20th century military struggles between Germany and Russia quite often made casual references to the traditional hostility between those two great peoples, who for centuries had stood as bitter rivals, representing the eternal struggle of Slav against Teuton for dominion over Eastern Europe.

Although the bloodstained history of the two world wars made that notion seem obvious, it was factually mistaken. Prior to 1914, those two great peoples had not fought against each other for the previous 150 years, and even the Seven Years’ War of the mid-18th century had involved a Russian alliance with Germanic Austria against Germanic Prussia, hardly amounting to a conflict along civilizational lines. Russians and Germans had been staunch allies during the endless Napoleonic wars, closely cooperated during the Metterich and Bismarck Eras that followed, while even as late as 1904, Germany had supported Russia in its unsuccessful war against Japan. Later, Weimar Germany and Soviet Russia had a period of close military cooperation during the 1920s, the Hitler-Stalin Pact of 1939 marked the beginning of the Second World War, and during the long Cold War, the USSR had no more loyal a satellite than East Germany. Perhaps two dozen years of hostility over the last three centuries, with good relations or even outright alliance during most of the remainder, hardly suggested that Russians and Germans were hereditary enemies.

Moreover, throughout much of that period, Russia’s ruling elite had had a considerable Germanic tinge. Russia’s legendary Catherine the Great had been a German princess by birth, and over the centuries so many Russian rulers had taken German wives that the later Czars of the Romanov dynasty were usually more German than Russian. Russia itself had a substantial but heavily assimilated German population, which was very well represented in elite political circles, with German names being quite common among government ministers and sometimes found among important military commanders. Even a top leader of the Decembrist revolt of the early 19th century had had German ancestry but was a zealous Russian-nationalist in his ideology.

Under the governance of this mixed Russian and German ruling class, the Russian Empire had steadily risen to become one of the world’s foremost powers. Indeed, given its vast size, manpower, and resources, combined with one of the world’s fastest economic growth rates and a natural increase in total population that was not far behind, a 1914 observer might have easily pegged it to soon dominate the European continent and perhaps even much of the world, just as Tocqueville had famously prophesized in the early decades of the 19th century. A crucial underlying cause of the First World War was Britain’s belief that only a preventative war could forestall a rising Germany, but I suspect that an important secondary cause was the parallel German notion that similar measures were necessary against a rising Russia.

Obviously, this entire landscape was totally transformed by the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, which swept the old order from power, massacring much of its leadership and forcing the remainder to flee, thereby ushering in the modern world era of ideological and revolutionary regimes. I grew up during the final decades of the long Cold War, when the Soviet Union stood as America’s great international adversary, so the history of that revolution and its aftermath always fascinated me. During college and graduate school I probably read at least one hundred books in that general topic, devouring the brilliant works of Solzhenistyn and Sholokhov, the thick historical volumes of mainstream academic scholars such as Adam Ulam and Richard Pipes, as well as the writings of leading Soviet dissidents such as Roy Medvedev, Andrei Sakharov, and Andrei Amalrik. I was fascinated by the tragic story of how Stalin outmaneuvered Trotsky and his other rivals, leading to the massive purges of the 1930s as Stalin’s growing paranoia produced such gigantic loss of life.

I was not so totally naive that I did not recognize some of the powerful taboos surrounding discussion of the Bolsheviks, particularly regarding their ethnic composition. Although most of the books hardly emphasized the point, anyone with a careful eye for the occasional sentence or paragraph would surely know that Jews were enormously over-represented among the top revolutionaries, with three of Lenin’s five potential successors— Trotsky, Zinoviev, and Kamenev—all coming from that background, along with many, many others within the top Communist leadership. Obviously, this was wildly disproportionate in a country having a Jewish population of perhaps 4%, and surely helped explain the large spike in worldwide hostility towards Jews soon afterward, which sometimes took the most deranged and irrational forms, such as the popularity of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and Henry Ford’s notorious publication of The International Jew. But with Russian Jews so much more likely to be educated and urbanized, and suffering from fierce anti-Semitic oppression under the Czars, everything seemed to make reasonable sense.

 

Then perhaps fourteen or fifteen years ago, I encountered a rip in my personal space-time continuum, among the first of many to come.

In this particular instance, an especially rightwing friend of evolutionary theorist Gregory Cochran had been spending long days browsing the pages of Stormfront, a leading Internet forum for the Far Right, and having come across a remarkable factual claim, asked me for my opinion. Allegedly Jacob Schiff, America’s leading Jewish banker, had been the crucial financial supporter of the Bolshevik Revolution, providing the Communist revolutionaries with $20 million in funding.

My first reaction was that such a notion was utterly ridiculous since a fact so enormously explosive could not have been ignored by the many dozens of books I had read on the origins of that revolution. But the source seemed extremely precise. The Knickerbocker columnist in the February 3, 1949 edition of The New York Journal-American, then one of the leading local newspapers, wrote that “Today it is estimated by Jacob’s grandson, John Schiff, that the old man sank about 20,000,000 dollars for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia.”

Once I checked around a little, I discovered that numerous mainstream accounts described the enormous hostility of Schiff towards the Czarist regime for its ill-treatment of Jews, and these days even so establishmentarian a source as Wikipedia’s entry on Jacob Schiff notes that he played a major role financing the Russian Revolution of 1905, as was revealed in the later memoirs of one of his key operatives. And if you run a search on “jacob schiff bolshevik revolution” numerous other references come up, representing a wide variety of different positions and degrees of credibility. One very interesting statement appears in the memoirs of Henry Wickham Steed, editor of The Times of London and one of the foremost international journalists of his era. He very matter-of-factly mentions that Schiff, Warburg and the other top Jewish international bankers were among the leading backers of the Jewish Bolsheviks, through whom they hoped to gain an opportunity for the Jewish exploitation of Russia, and he describes their lobbying efforts on behalf of their Bolshevik allies at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference following the end of the First World War.

Even the very recent and highly skeptical 2016 analysis in Kenneth D. Ackerman’s 2016 book Trotsky in New York, 1917 notes that U.S. Military Intelligence reports of the period directly made that astonishing claim, pointing to Trotsky as the conduit for the heavy financial backing of Schiff and numerous other Jewish financiers. In 1925 this information was published in the British Guardian and was widely discussed and accepted throughout the 1920s and 1930s by numerous major media publications, long before Schiff’s own grandson provided a direct confirmation of those facts in 1949. Ackerman rather cavalierly dismisses all of this considerable contemporaneous evidence as “anti-Semitic” and a “conspiracy story,” arguing that since Schiff was a notorious conservative who had never shown any sympathy for socialism in his own American milieu, he surely would not have funded the Bolsheviks.

Now admittedly, a few details might easily have gotten somewhat garbled over time. For example, although Trotsky quickly became second only to Lenin in the Bolshevik hierarchy, in early 1917 the two were still bitterly hostile over various ideological disputes, so he certainly was not then considered a member of that party. And since everyone today acknowledges that Schiff had heavily financed the failed 1905 Revolution in Russia, it seems perfectly possible that the $20 million figure mentioned by his grandson refers to the total invested over the years supporting all the different Russian revolutionary movements and leaders, which together finally culminated in the establishment of Bolshevik Russia. But with so many seemingly credible and independent sources all making such similar claims, the basic facts appear almost indisputable.

Consider the implications of this remarkable conclusion. I would assume that most of Schiff’s funding of revolutionary activities was spent on items such as activist stipends and bribes, and adjusted for the average family incomes of that era, $20 million would be as much as $2 billion in present-day money. Surely without such enormous financial support, the likelihood of any Bolshevik victory would have been far lower, perhaps almost impossible.

When people casually used to joke about the total insanity of “anti-Semitic conspiracy theories” no better example was ever tossed around than the self-evidently absurd notion that the international Jewish bankers had created the worldwide Communist movement. And yet by any reasonable standard, this statement appears to be more or less true, and apparently was widely known at least in rough form for decades after the Russian Revolution, but had never been mentioned in any of the numerous more recent histories that shaped my own knowledge of those events. Indeed, none of these very comprehensive sources ever even mentioned Schiff’s name, although it was universally acknowledged that he had funded the 1905 Revolution, which was often discussed in enormous detail in many of those very weighty books. What other astonishing facts might they similarly be concealing?

When someone encounters remarkable new revelations in an area of history in which his knowledge was rudimentary, being little more than introductory textbooks or History 101 courses, the result is a shock and an embarrassment. But when the same situation occurs in an area in which he had read tens of thousands of pages in the leading authoritative texts, which seemingly explored every minor detail, surely his sense of reality begins to crumble.

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In 1999, Harvard University published the English edition of The Black Book of Communism, whose six co-authors devoted 850 pages to documenting the horrors inflicted upon the world by that defunct system, which had produced a total death toll they reckoned at 100 million. I have never read that book and I have often heard that the alleged body-count has been widely disputed. But for me the most remarkable detail is that when I examine the 35 page index, I see a vast profusion of entries for totally obscure individuals whose names are surely unknown to all but the most erudite specialist. But there is no entry for Jacob Schiff, the world-famous Jewish banker who apparently financed the creation of the whole system in the first place. Nor one for Olaf Aschberg, the powerful Jewish banker in Sweden, who played such an important role in providing the Bolsheviks a financial life-line during the early years of their threatened regime, and even founded the first Soviet international bank.

 

When one discovers a tear in the fabric of reality, there is a natural tendency to nervously peer within, wondering what mysterious objects might dwell there. The Ackerman book denounced the notion of Schiff having funded the Bolsheviks as “a favorite trope of Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda” and just prior to those words he issued a similar denunciation of Henry Ford’s Dearborn Independent, a publication which would have meant almost nothing to me. Although Ackerman’s particular book had not yet been published when I began exploring the Schiff story a dozen years ago, many other writers had similarly conjoined those two topics, so I decided to explore the matter.

Ford himself was a very interesting individual, and his world-historical role certainly received very scanty coverage in my basic history textbooks. Although the exact reasons for his decision to raise his minimum wage to $5 per day in 1914—double the existing average pay for industrial workers in America—can be disputed, it certainly seems to have played a huge role in the creation of our middle class. He also adopted a highly paternalistic policy of providing good company housing and other amenities to his workers, a total departure from the “Robber Baron” capitalism so widely practiced at that time, thereby establishing himself as a world-wide hero to industrial workers and their advocates. Indeed, Lenin himself had regarded Ford as a towering figure in the world’s revolutionary firmament, glossing over his conservative views and commitment to capitalism and instead focusing on his remarkable achievements in worker productivity and economic well-being. It is a forgotten detail of history that even after Ford’s considerable hostility to the Russian Revolution became widely known, the Bolsheviks still described their own industrial development policy as “Fordism.” Indeed, it was not unusual to see portraits of Lenin and Ford hanging side-by-side in Soviet factories, representing the two greatest secular saints of the Bolshevik pantheon.

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As for The Dearborn Independent, Ford had apparently launched his newspaper on a national basis not long after the end of the war, intending to focus on controversial topics, especially those related to Jewish misbehavior, whose discussion he believed was being ignored or suppressed by nearly all mainstream media outlets. I had been aware that he had long been one of the wealthiest and most highly-regarded individuals in America, but I was still astonished to discover that his weekly newspaper, previously almost unknown to me, had reached a total national circulation of 900,000 by 1925, ranking it as the second largest in the country and by far the biggest with a national distribution. I found no easy means of examining the contents of a typical issue, but apparently the anti-Jewish articles of the first couple of years had been collected and published as short books, together constituting the four volumes of The International Jew: The World’s Foremost Problem, a notoriously anti-Semitic work occasionally mentioned in my history textbooks. Eventually my curiosity got the best of me, so clicked a few buttons on Amazon.com, bought the set, and wondered what I would discover.

Based on all my pre-suppositions, I expected to read some foaming-at-the-mouth screed, and doubted I would be able to get past the first dozen pages before losing interest and consigning the volumes to gather dust on my shelves. But what I actually encountered was something entirely different.

Over the last couple of decades, the enormous growth in the power and influence of Jewish and pro-Israel groups in America has occasionally led writers to cautiously raise certain facts regarding the untoward influence of those organizations and activists, while always carefully emphasizing that the vast majority of ordinary Jews do not benefit from these policies and actually might be harmed by them, even leaving aside the possible risk of eventually provoking an anti-Jewish backlash. To my considerable surprise, I found that the vast majority of the material in Ford’s 300,000 word series seemed to follow this same pattern and tone.

The individual 80 chapter-columns of Ford’s volumes generally discuss particular issues and events, some of which were well-known to me, but with the vast majority totally obscured by the passage of almost a hundred years. But as far as I could tell, almost all the discussions seemed quite plausible and factually-oriented, even sometimes overly cautious in their presentation, and with one possible exception I can’t recall anything that seemed fanciful or unreasonable. As an example, there was no claim that Schiff or his fellow Jewish bankers had funded the Bolshevik Revolution since those particular facts had not yet come out, only that he had seemed to be strongly supportive of the overthrow of Czarism, and had worked toward that end for many years, motivated by what he regarded as the hostility of the Russian Empire towards its Jewish subjects. This sort of discussion is not all that different from what one might find in a modern Schiff biography or in his Wikipedia entry, though many of the important details presented in the Ford books have disappeared from the historical record.

Although I somehow managed to plow through all four volumes of The International Jew, the unrelenting drum-beat of Jewish intrigue and misbehavior became somewhat soporific after a while, especially since so many of the examples provided may have loomed quite large in 1920 or 1921 but are almost totally forgotten today. Most of the content was a collection of rather monotonous complaints regarding Jewish malfeasance, scandals, or clannishness, the sort of mundane matters which might have normally appeared in the pages of an ordinary newspaper or magazine, let alone one of the muckraking type.

However, I cannot fault the publication for such a narrow focus. A consistent theme was that because of the intimidating fear of Jewish activists and influence, virtually all of America’s regular media outlets avoided discussion of any of these important matters, and since this new publication was intended to remedy that void, it necessarily required coverage overwhelmingly skewed toward that particular subject. The articles were also aimed at gradually expanding the window of public debate and eventually shame other periodicals into discussing Jewish misbehavior. When leading magazines such as The Atlantic Monthly and Century Magazine began running such articles, this result was cited as a major success.

Another important goal was to make ordinary Jews more aware of the very problematical behavior of many of their community leaders. Occasionally, the publication received a letter of praise from a self-proclaimed “proud American Jew” commending the series and sometimes including a check to purchase subscriptions for other members of his community, and this achievement might become the subject of an extended discussion.

And although the details of these individual stories differed considerably from those of today, the pattern of behavior being criticized seemed remarkably similar. Change a few facts, adjust the society for a century of change, and many of the stories might be exactly the same ones that well-meaning people concerned about the future of our country are quietly discussing today. Most remarkably, there were even a couple of columns about the troubled relationship between the earliest Zionist settlers in Palestine and the surrounding native Palestinians, and deep complaints that under Jewish pressure the media often totally misreported or hid some of the outrages suffered by the latter group.

I certainly cannot vouch for the overall accuracy of the contents of these volumes, but at the very least they would constitute an extremely valuable source of “raw material” for further historical investigation. So many of the events and incidents they recount seem to have been entirely omitted from the major media publications of that day, and surely were never included in later historical narratives, given that even such widely known stories as Schiff’s major financial backing for the Bolsheviks were completely tossed down George Orwell’s “memory hole.”

With the volumes long out of copyright, I have added the set to my collection of HTML Books, and those so interested may read the text and decide for themselves.

 

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As mentioned, the overwhelming majority of The International Jew seems a rather bland recitation of complaints about Jewish misbehavior. But there is one major exception, which has a very different impact upon our modern mind, namely that the writer took very seriously The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Probably no “conspiracy theory” in modern times has been subjected to such immense vilification and ridicule as the Protocols, but a voyage of discovery often acquires a momentum of its own, and I became curious about the nature of that infamous document.

Apparently, the Protocols first came to light during the last decade of the 19th century, and the British Museum stored a copy in 1906, but it attracted relatively little attention at the time. However, all this changed after the Bolshevik Revolution and toppling of many other long-standing governments at the end of the First World War led many people to seek a common cause behind so many enormous political upheavals. From my distance of many decades, the text of the Protocols struck me as rather bland and even dull, describing in rather long-winded fashion a plan of secret subversion aimed at weakening the bonds of the social fabric, setting groups against each other, gaining control over political leaders by bribery and blackmail, and eventually restoring society along rigidly hierarchical lines with an entirely new group in control. Admittedly, there were many shrewd insights into politics or psychology, notably the enormous power of the media and the benefits of advancing political front-men who were deeply compromised or incompetent and hence easily controllable. But nothing else really jumped out at me.

Perhaps one reason I found the text of the Protocols so uninspiring is that over the century since its publication, these notions of diabolical plots by hidden groups have become such a common theme in our entertainment media, with countless thousands of spy novels and science fiction stories presenting something similar, though these usually involve far more exciting means, such as a super-weapon or a powerful drug. If some Bond villain proclaimed his intent to conquer the world merely through simple political subversion, I suspect that such a film would immediately die at the box office.

But back one hundred years ago, these were apparently exciting and novel notions, and I actually found the discussion of the Protocols in many of the chapters of The International Jew far more interesting and informative than reading the text itself. The author of the Ford books seems to appropriately treat it as any other historical document, dissecting its content, speculating on its provenance, and wondering whether or not it was what it purported to be, namely an approximate record of the statements of a group of conspirators pursuing mastery over the world, with those conspirators widely believed to be an elite fraternity of international Jews.

Other contemporaries seem to have taken the Protocols very seriously as well. The august Times of London fully endorsed it, before later retracting that position under heavy pressure, and I’ve read that more copies were published and sold in the Europe of that era than any other book save the Bible. The Bolshevik government of Russia paid the volume its own sort of deep respect, with mere possession of the Protocols warranting immediate execution.

Although The International Jew concludes that the Protocols was probably genuine, I doubt that likelihood based upon the style and presentation. Browsing around on the Internet a dozen years ago, I discovered quite a variety of different opinions even within the precincts of the Far Right, where such matters were freely discussed. I remember some forum writer somewhere characterizing the Protocols as “based upon a true story,” suggesting that someone who was generally familiar with the secretive machinations of elite international Jews against the existing governments of Czarist Russia and other countries had drafted the document to outline his view of their strategic plans, and such an interpretation seems perfectly plausible.

Another reader somewhere claimed that the Protocols were pure fiction but very significant nonetheless. He argued that the very keen insights into the methods by which a small conspiratorial group can quietly corrupt and overthrow powerful existing regimes arguably ranked it alongside Plato’s The Republic and Machiavelli’s The Prince as one of the three great classics of Western political philosophy, and earned it a place on the required reading list of every Political Science 101 course. Indeed, the author of Ford’s books emphasizes that there are very few mentions of Jews anywhere in the Protocols, and all the implied connections to Jewish conspirators could be completely struck from the text without affecting their content whatsoever.

In any event, this short work is now available as one of my HTML Books, making it quite convenient for reading and text-searching.

 

Some ideas have consequences and others do not. Although my introductory history textbooks had often mentioned Henry Ford’s anti-Semitic activities, his publication of The International Jew, and the concurrent popularity of the Protocols, they never emphasized any lasting political legacy, or at least I don’t recall any. However, once I actually read the contents and also discovered the enormous contemporary popularity of those writings and the huge national circulation of The Dearborn Independent, I quickly came to a very different conclusion.

For decades pro-immigration liberals, many of them Jewish, have suggested that anti-Semitism was a major factor behind the 1924 Immigration Act that drastically reduced European immigration for the next forty years, while anti-immigration activists have always heatedly denied this. The documentary evidence from that era certainly favors the position of the latter, but I really do wonder what important private discussions may not have been set down in print and entered into the Congressional Record. The overwhelming popular support for immigration restriction had been successfully blocked for decades by powerful business interests, which greatly benefited from the reduced wages of the resulting labor-competition, but now matters had suddenly changed, and surely the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia must have had been a powerful influence.

Russia, overwhelmingly populated by Russians, had been governed for centuries by a Russian ruling elite. Then, heavily Jewish revolutionaries, drawn from a group amounting to just 4% of the population had taken advantage of military defeat and unsettled political conditions to seize control of the country, butchering those previous elites or forcing them to desperately flee abroad as penniless refugees.

Trotsky and a large fraction of the leading Jewish revolutionaries had been living as exiles in New York City, and now many of their Jewish cousins still resident in America began loudly proclaiming that a similar revolution would soon follow here as well. Huge waves of recent immigration, mostly from Russia, had increased the Jewish fraction of the national population to 3%, not far below the figure for Russia itself on the eve of its revolution. If the Russian elites who ruled Russia had been suddenly overthrown by Jewish revolutionaries, is it not obvious that the Anglo-Saxon elites who ruled Anglo-Saxon America feared suffering the same fate?

The “Red Scare” of the 1919 was one response, with numerous immigrant radicals such as Emma Goldman rounded up and summarily deported, while the Sacco-Vanzetti murder trial in 1921 Boston captured the attention of the nation, suggesting that other immigrant groups were violent radicals as well, and might ally themselves with the Jews in a revolutionary movement, just like the Letts and other disgruntled Russian minorities had done during the Bolshevik Revolution. But drastically reducing the inflow of these dangerous foreigners was absolutely essential since otherwise their numbers might easily grow by hundreds of thousands each year, increasing their already huge presence in our largest cities of the East Coast.

Sharply reducing immigration would certainly cause a rise in worker wages and hurt business profits. But considerations of profits are secondary if you fear that you and your family might eventually end up facing a Bolshevik firing squad or fleeing to Buenos Aires with just the clothes on your backs and a few hurriedly-packed suitcases.

A noteworthy bit of evidence in support of this analysis was the subsequent failure of Congress to enact similar restrictive legislation curtailing immigration from Mexico or the rest of Latin America. The local business interests of Texas and the Southwest argued that continuation of unrestricted Mexican immigration was important for their economic success, with Mexicans being good people, politically docile workers, and no threat to stability of the country. This was a clear contrast with the Jews and some other European immigrant groups.

The much less familiar early 1920s battle over restricting Jewish enrollment in the Ivy League may have been another consequence. In his magisterial 2005 volume The Chosen, Jerome Karabel documents how the very rapid growth in Jewish numbers at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and other Ivy League colleges had by the early 1920s become an enormous concern to the Anglo-Saxon elites which had established those institutions and always dominated their student bodies.

As a result, a quiet war over admissions broke out, involving both political and media influence, with the reigning WASPs seeking to reduce and restrict Jewish numbers and the Jews struggling to maintain or expand them. Although there seems no paper-trail of any direct references to the enormously popular national newspaper and books published by Henry Ford or any similar material, it is difficult to believe that the academic combatants were not at least somewhat aware of the theories of a Jewish assault on Gentile society then being so widely promoted. It is easy to imagine that a respectable Boston Brahmin such as Harvard President A. Lawrence Lowell regarded his own moderate “anti-Semitism” as a very reasonable middle-ground between the lurid claims promoted by Ford and others and the demands for unlimited Jewish enrollment made by his opponents. Indeed, Karabel himself points to the social impact of Ford’s publications as a significant background factor to this academic conflict.

At this point in time, the Anglo-Saxon elites still held the upper hand in the media. The very heavily Jewish film industry was only in its infancy and the same was true for radio, while the vast majority of major print outlets were still in Gentile hands, so the descendants of America’s original settlers won this round of the admissions war. But when the battle was rejoined a couple of decades later, the strategic political and media landscape had completely shifted, with Jews having achieved near-parity in print influence and overwhelming dominance in the more powerful electronic media formats such as film, radio, and nascent television, and this time they were victorious, easily breaking the hold of their longtime ethnic rivals, and eventually achieving almost complete dominance over those elite institutions.

And ironically enough, the most lasting cultural legacy of the widespread anti-Jewish agitation of the 1920s may be the least recognized. As mentioned above, modern readers might find the text of the Protocols rather boring and bland, almost like they had been cribbed from the extremely long-winded monologue of one of the diabolical villains of a James Bond story. But it wouldn’t surprise me if there were actually an arrow of causality in the opposite direction. Ian Fleming created this genre in the early 1950s with his string of international best-sellers, and it is interesting to speculate about the source of his ideas.

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Fleming had spent his youth during the 1920s and 1930s when the Protocols were among the most widely read books in much of Europe and leading British newspapers of the highest credibility were recounting the successful plots of Schiff and other international Jewish bankers to overthrow the government of Britain’s Czarist ally and replace it with Jewish Bolshevik rule. Moreover, his later service in an arm of British Intelligence would surely have made him privy to details of that history that went far beyond those public headlines. I think it is more than pure coincidence that two of his most memorable Bond villains, Goldfinger and Blofeld, had distinctly Jewish-sounding names, and that so many of the plots involve schemes of world-conquest by Spectre, a secretive and mysterious international organization hostile to all existing governments. The Protocols themselves may be half-forgotten today, but their cultural influence probably survives in the Bond films, whose $7 billion of aggregate box-office gross ranks them as the most successful movie series in history when adjusted for inflation.

 

The extent to which established historical facts can appear or disappear from the world should certainly force all of us to become very cautious in believing anything we read in our standard textbooks, let alone what we absorb from our more transient electronic media.

In the early years of the Bolshevik Revolution, almost no one questioned the overwhelming role of Jews in that event, nor their similar preponderance in the ultimately unsuccessful Bolshevik takeovers in Hungary and parts of Germany. For example, former British Minister Winston Churchill in 1920 denounced the “terrorist Jews” who had seized control of Russia and other parts of Europe, noting that “the majority of the leading figures are Jews” and stating that “In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing,” while lamenting the horrors these Jews had inflicted upon the suffering Germans and Hungarians.

Similarly, journalist Robert Wilton, former Russia correspondent of the Times of London, provided a very detailed summary of the enormous Jewish role in his 1918 book Russia’s Agony and 1920 book The Last Days of the Romanovs, although one of the most explicit chapters of the latter was apparently excluded from the English language edition. Not long afterward, the facts regarding the enormous financial support provided to the Bolsheviks by international Jewish bankers such as Schiff and Aschberg were widely reported in the mainstream media.

Jews and Communism were just as strongly tied together in America, and for years the largest circulation Communist newspaper in our country was published in Yiddish. When they were finally released, the Venona Decrypts demonstrated that even as late as the 1930s and 1940s, a remarkable fraction of America’s Communist spies came from that ethnic background.

A personal anecdote tends to confirm these dry historical records. During the early 2000s I once had lunch with an elderly and very eminent computer scientist, with whom I’d become a little friendly. While talking about this and that, he happened to mention that both his parents had been zealous Communists, and given his obvious Irish name, I expressed my surprise, saying that I’d thought almost all the Communists of that era were Jewish. He said that was indeed the case, but although his mother had such an ethnic background, his father did not, which made him a very rare exception in their political circles. As a consequence, the Party had always sought to place him in as prominent a public role as possible just to prove that not all Communists were Jews, and although he obeyed Party discipline, he was always irritated at being used as such a “token.”

However, once Communism sharply fell out of favor in 1950s America, nearly all of the leading “Red Baiters” such as Sen. Joseph McCarthy went to enormous lengths to obscure the ethnic dimension of the movement they were combatting. Indeed, many years later Richard Nixon casually spoke in private of the difficulty he and other anti-Communist investigators had faced in trying to focus on Gentile targets since nearly all of the suspected Soviet spies were Jewish, and when this tape became public, his alleged anti-Semitism provoked a media firestorm even though his remarks were obviously implying the exact opposite.

This last point is an important one, since once the historical record has been sufficiently whitewashed or rewritten, any lingering strands of the original reality that survive are often perceived as bizarre delusions or denounced as “conspiracy theories.” Indeed, even today the ever-amusing pages of Wikipedia provides an entire 3,500 word article attacking the notion of “Jewish Bolshevism” as an “antisemitic canard.”

I remember in the 1970s the enormous gusts of American praise for Solzhenitysn’s three volume Gulag Archipelago suddenly encountered a temporary headwind when someone noticed that his 2,000 pages had included a single photograph depicting many of the leading Gulag administrators, along with a caption revealing their unmistakably Jewish names. This detail was treated as serious evidence of the great author’s possible anti-Semitism since the actual reality of the enormously large role of Jews in the NKVD and the Gulag system had long since disappeared from all the standard history books.

As another example, the Rev. Pat Robertson, a leading Christian televangelist, published The New World Order in 1991, his fiery attack on the “godless globalists” whom he considered his greatest enemy, and it quickly became a massive national best-seller. He happened to include a couple of brief, somewhat garbled mentions of the $20 million which Wall Street banker Jacob Schiff had provided to the Communists, carefully avoiding any suggestion of a Jewish angle and providing no reference for that claim. His book quickly provoked a vast outpouring of denunciation and ridicule across the elite media, with the Schiff story seen as conclusion proof of his delusional anti-Semitism. I cannot really fault these critics since in pre-Internet days they could only consult the indexes of a few standard histories of the Bolshevik Revolution, and finding no mention of Schiff or his money, naturally assumed that Robertson or his source had simply invented the bizarre story. I myself had had exactly the same reaction at the time.

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Only after Soviet Communism had died in 1991 and no longer was perceived as a hostile force were academic scholars in America once again able to publish mainstream books that gradually restored the true picture of that past era. In many respects, a widely praised work such as The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine, published in 2004 by Princeton University Press, provides a narrative quite consistent with long-forgotten works by Robert Wilton but marks a very sharp departure from the largely obfuscatory histories of the intervening eighty-odd years.

Until about a dozen years ago, I had always vaguely assumed that Henry Ford’s The International Jew was a work of political lunacy and the Protocols was a notorious hoax. Yet today, I would probably consider the former as a potentially useful source of possible historical events otherwise excluded from most standard accounts, while at least understanding the argument of why the latter might deserve a place alongside Plato and Machiavelli as a classic of Western political thought.

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  1. ‘…A crucial underlying cause of the First World War was Britain’s belief that only a preventative war could forestall a rising Germany, but I suspect that an important secondary cause was the parallel German notion that similar measures were necessary against a rising Russia…’

    Indeed. I forget where, but I have read that the German General Staff had calculated that after 1916, Russia would be unbeatable. While I disagree with the rather widespread belief that Germany was particularly responsible for World War One, it may well have been the case that once the ball started rolling, many in the General Staff calculated that it would be better to have it out now than to wait.

    Incidentally, to digress, I feel that while it was above all the situation and the paradigm of the times that brought World War One about, if anyone should be held culpable, it would be France and Serbia, while — in contrast to your opinion — I feel that Britain probably was the one power least responsible for the outbreak of war.

  2. Seraphim says:

    Should we expect the same tsunami of comments like for the previous post of American Pravda? I bet.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Wally
    , @Paw
  3. Dan Hayes says:

    Mr. Unz,

    With last week’s essay and this week’s discussion of Schiff, Ford, The Dearborn Independent and The Elders, it looks like it’s Damn the Torpedoes Full Speed Ahead.

    What Forbidden Topic will be discussed and what Sacred Cow will be dissected next week?

  4. Unfortunately the Jew has throughout history been Pogromed. The inevitable leftist turn and they are mostly responsible for it, in this country will bite them in their ass. Democratic Socialism is on its way. And the victomology that is such a big part of its core loves the Palestinian. Its gonna be a long next 100 years.

  5. Sean says:

    .

    And since everyone today acknowledges that Schiff had heavily financed the failed 1905 Revolution in Russia,

    Whoa, that puts the stories about 1918 in a very different light.

    Other contemporaries seem to have taken the Protocols very seriously as well. The august Times of London fully endorsed it, before later retracting that position under heavy pressure,

    I once looked up the text of that article by perusing the relative edition of the Times on microfilm and it was rather different in tone to what later authors such as Norman Cohn asserted .

  6. Dan Hayes says:

    The cited “eminent computer scientist” (obviously John McCarthy) was used as a token as was Carl Jung.

    • Replies: @sarz
    , @Anonymous
  7. I’d note that associations between Jews and revolutionary socialism in America weren’t just the product of observing events in Europe.

    I read an interesting book called More Powerful than Dynamite that describes the social unrest and pre-revolutionary agitation that gripped New York City in 1915-1916. The author appears genuinely unaware of the fact, but a very large proportion — half? two-thirds? — of the figures he names are Eastern European Jews. For whatever reason, a completely disproportionate percentage of these people came boiling out of their shtetls absolutely possessed by revolutionary fervor. Was it hatred of Tsarism? A reaction to being freed from the rule of their traditional communities and rabbis? I don’t know — but it’d be interesting to read about.

    More mundanely, I read Frederik Pohl’s memoir of the early science-fiction scene, The Way the Future Was. In it, he discusses his membership in the Young Communists League or some such thing in New York City in late thirties — and notes that although he didn’t find the fact significant, the membership was indeed disproportionately Jewish.

    It’s a bit like blacks and basketball. Not all basketball players are black, but they disproportionately are. Ditto for Jews and Communists — both in Europe and here. As a rough rule, they seem to have been overrepresented by a factor of between ten and a hundred. I think that seeing Communism as a Jewish plot is a paranoid over-simplification — but it is equally unreasonable to see no connection at all.

    • Replies: @dieter kief
    , @Daniel Rich
  8. You lost me at Robert Wilton. Wilton’s list has been debunked. Now I do not know a lot about the guy but some of what he says is obvious BS.

  9. As to the reality and extent of China’s famine during the Great Leap Forward, I strongly recommend you read Yang Jisheng’s Tombstone: the Great Chinese Famine 1958-1962. It was real — and fully as bad as advertised.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  10. Q; … 15 million or less dead…

    R: That’s still the entire population of 161 individual countries around the globe.

  11. Cyrano says:

    According to some, one of the ethnic groups that have benefited the most from the good old capitalism are the Jews.

    Thanks to the capitalist system, many of them have managed to become enormously rich – some would say thanks to their genetic predisposition towards greed, which of course is unique only to them.

    Well then it makes a perfect sense to me that they would be the ones to finance a revolution in Russia that would bring a system which pretty much doesn’t allow anyone to get rich.

    Wouldn’t it have made more sense if members of the Jewish community have financed a capitalist – sorry – “democratic” revolution in Russia, which will allow them to prosper financially like they did in the west?

    Or was the Bolshevik revolution a payback for the pogroms? What is the logic here? They did it because they are evil? How did the Jewish financiers of the October revolution knew that Stalin will come along and pervert the idea of Socialism (to a certain degree), and turn it into one massive orgy of pogroms (according to some) against anybody and everybody.

    The whole idea is pure nonsense. The only way that it will make sense to me is that the Jews financed the October revolution because they expected that their people will get more equal treatment under that system than in Czarist Russia. Not because they wanted to unleash something evil on this world.

  12. BenKenobi says:

    And here we are.

    • Replies: @Wally
  13. Heros says:

    This Pravda article was once again a frustrating read because it once again tries to dance around difficult issues while minimizing offense to jews.

    Having grown up watching every Bond movie as they came out, I never considered jew villains as an element of the plot, and I have still never had until I read this article. I guess the parallels the mob, where the front men were all italians but the real mob was Spiegel, Lansky and the Rothschilds.

    The Bond film series illustrates how deep jewery has penetrated our lives, and how it is almost always hidden, or crypto. As I have become woke over the last decade, I find that every rock in our history that I overturn, greedy jews pop out. Where ever Jews are involved in groups greater than one, throughout history, they always appear to lurking around following secret agendas that uniformly work counter to the interest of their Christian hosts and especially their children.

    We know from the murders of Sikorsky and others to cover up Katyn, from the creation of Bnai Brith, ADL and SPLC to cover up Blood Sacrifice, from the genocidal theft of Palestine and the murder of its people continuing today, that jews go to incredible lengths to cover up their tracks from goyim.

    So when I read these Pravda articles, I am always frustrated because Ron Unz is always deferring to some hidden jew in his background who he knows will take offense at what he says, so he has to temper it. Because he is a jew, he cannot call a lying jew a lying jew, or he will be ostracized and boycotted even more. Unz tells us how Ford documents event after event for 80 chapters about how jews have conspired, tricked, committed fraud, and even murdered Christians, sometimes in rituals, to cover it all up, yet as a Jew he cannot understand that we Christians find this centuries old, documented, and still ongoing, satanic blood conspiracy to be worthy of more than a nod and a “tsk”.

    The truth is that when we discuss history, no text written by a jew or crypto jew can be trusted unless it is indirectly exposing jewish guilt or malfeasance. They ALL have to be thrown out the window if we are seeking truth, because all of them are filled with deliberate misdirections and lies. We should treat jewish documents the same way jews treat Mein Kampf, only as evidence of jewish guilt.

    The fact the Bolsheviks made possession of the protocols an instant death penalty, and for the 10 closest family member, is alone proof of its veracity in their eyes, and also the true forces motivating them. We see this same jewish double goy jeopardy with the holocaust denial laws, where denying jewish lies can get you thrown in jail faster than an SS soldier was murdered by the Ritchie boys after surrender.

    • Agree: Kolo, Carroll Price
  14. Books I do not see mentioned:
    Alexander Solschenizyn, ´Die russisch- jüdische Geschichte 1795- 1916, >> Zweihundert Jahre zusammen <<´, Moskau 2001, München 2002
    Antony C. Sutton, ´Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution’, 1974 New Rochelle, N.Y.
    Voline ( Vsevolod Mikhailovitsch Eichenbaum), ‘The unknown revolution (Kronstadt 1921 Ukraine 1918-21)’, New York 1955
    Horace Meyer Kallen, ‘Zionism and World Politics; A Study in History and Social Psychology’, New York, 1921
    Elisabeth Dilling, ´The Roosevelt Red record and its background’, 1936, Chicago

    And I have a consolation, the murder of Rabin by an orthodox jew after the Oslo Accords made me wonder if zionist jews did want peace, being retired I had the time to investigate, and found about about fairy tales such as 'land without people for people without land'.

    Sept 11 was the next investigation trigger, once I could no longer prevent the conclusion that it had nothing to do with Islamic terrorism.
    How could our liberator of WWII have become an evil state ?
    I found out about Baruch and FDR, etc.
    Had there been no Baruch, I wonder if there would have been a WWII.
    As Hitler in 1939 threatened jewry 'if they again caused a world war …'.

    I must add that, though WWI was set up by GB, France and the tsar, I never found evidence that jews were involved in the conspiracy.

    However, the blackmail of the Balfour Declaration, jews do seem responsible for the German defeat in 1918.
    Without USA military interference Germany would have won in November 1917.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @cassandra
    , @Seraphim
    , @j2
  15. One important historical figure who is unknown in the west is Alexander Parvus, aka Israel Helphand. He was the man who persuaded the German Generals to send Lenin to Russia in the sealed train. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Parvus#Russian_Revolution

  16. Waitemata says:

    Thanks for this article. I have just reread Ford’s ‘My Life and Work;’ my father’s old (1926) edition. Have also read Robert Wilton’s ‘Last Days of the Romanoffs’ several times so appreciate references to these two authors. I hope Wilton has been republished in this year of the anniversary of the cruel martyrdom of the Russian Imperial family by the Bolsheviks.

  17. Very interesting article.

    Here’s a fascinating quote from “The International Jew.”

    In other countries the Jew is permitted to mix more readily with the people, he can amass his control unchallenged; but in Germany the case was different. Therefore, the Jew hated the German people; therefore, the countries of the world which were most dominated by the Jews showed the greatest hatred of Germany during the recent regrettable war.

    If you replace “Germany” with “Russia,” perhaps this paragraph would be a good explanation of why Western leaders hate Russia so much. Interestingly enough, modern Jews seem to really like Germany these days.

    What are your thoughts on the refugee crisis in Europe? Given how much Jewish currency trader George Soros has done to encourage refugee migration into Europe, do you think there’s some sort of Jewish conspiracy at work here?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why

  18. Anon[341] • Disclaimer says:

    During the early 2000s I once had lunch with an elderly and very eminent computer scientist, which whom I’d become a little friendly.

    With

  19. Bukowski says:

    Article by Mark Weber – The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia’s Early Soviet Regime – can be found here.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2487/

    • Replies: @Paw
  20. Anon[122] • Disclaimer says:

    Much of the problem with Jacob Schiff and his ilk is that he actually thought the ‘socialist utopia’ was achievable. He believed all the propaganda. When he was donating his money, he had no clue the communist takeover would turn out to be a bloody failure detested by the Russian people who lived all their lives under the system, although there was certainly a strong element of “Let’s get revenge on the Tsar and his ilk for treating us like animals,” in Schiff’s thinking.

    Much of what Jews have been trying to do in politics during the 20th century is idealistic lever-pulling by men with too much Asperger’s disorder to understand human nature, and who keep thinking that if you unleash the dark side of the human personality, everything will turn out all right.

    This is one reason why Jews keep insisting that blacks who commit crimes should only get a slap on the wrist and be turned loose right back into society again. They honest-to-god think that scolding will stop sociopaths in their tracks, in denial of all evidence, because Jews have no understanding of evil human nature. When Jews became a secular, modern, and scientific-minded people, they lost all their understanding of evil, because as moderns, they were now ‘above all that primitive, backward thinking.’

    Jews who think this way keep saying, “Of course communist Russia turned out to be bad because the wrong people were in charge.” This is a bunch of coded wording for, “If me and my friends were in charge we would do it right because we’re different and special,” without realizing that practically everyone becomes corrupt if handed the reins of power.

    At one point in their careers, Obama and Hillary, as well as many of their liberal friends in the Democratic party thought of themselves as decent, well-intended beings who would run things the Correct Way once in power. But once they were in power, they became corrupt, and they’re still too blinded by their egos to see it.

    Their supporters, left-wing Jews, are also too blind to see it because they have no self-knowledge at all. Part of the problem with Asperger’s, which is far too prevalent among Jews, is that the disorder blocks you from acquiring self-knowledge of your own personality, as well as preventing from gaining insight into the personalities of others. This leaves you with the ideological side of your brain entirely in charge.

    • Agree: Mike P
    • Troll: utu
  21. I read The International Jew about five years ago. Well, I tried to read it, but gave up before getting half way through. As Ron said, it became quite monotonous and too much of the discussion was focused on obscure events of the day. I might have persevered, but eventually the numerous speculative conspiracy-theory-style reaches in explaining contemporary and historical events got to me.

    As for the Protocols, neo-nazis often claim that the important thing about it isn’t whether it was a ‘hoax’ or not, but whether it explains the present. I suppose that’s true in the sense that it gives an insight into the mindset of the people who were concerned about the growth of Jewish influence before that influence became a fact. I haven’t read the whole thing, so I can’t comment on Ron’s claim that it deserves to be a considered a classic of political theory.

    Another neo-nazi point which I also think is partly correct is that “Jews are the skeleton key to history.” Neo-nazis take that and run with it, which leads to all sorts of weird and wonderful conspiracy theories, but the basic point has to be granted: that an understanding of certain historical events will always be incomplete without sufficient consideration of the Jewish role.

    It is a forgotten detail of history that even after Ford’s considerable hostility to the Russian Revolution became widely known, the Bolsheviks still described their own industrial development policy as “Fordism.”

    This makes it sound like the Russians coined “Fordism.” Did they? I don’t know. But modern historians and social scientists with a leftist bent routinely refer to Fordism, both as a management theory and as a social structure.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @MarkinPNW
  22. Anonymous[283] • Disclaimer says:

    A fascinating piece, Ron. Thank you.

    In the passage about the Ivy League admissions debate, would it add or distract to include the proportion of Jewish representation at some of those institutions at its height, when the debate was getting underway?

    You mentioned your interest in China. Did any Jews participate in the communist revolution there, or in the government?

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  23. Thanks Ron for another true life thriller. I cannot say of this latest illustration of the American Pravda theme that I have yet come across anything on TV’s serious channels such as “History” or the National Geographic” which in any way suggests that a wider conception of MSM would qualify your main point about the memory hole and the diggers of it.

    I thank you too for reminding me of that very smart half Irish scientist who stayed with me in Australia many years ago. I mention him in the hope that your archive project might ensure, if it hasn’t been done by the university on whose campus he lived, that access to his major and minor writings will be available. (Cf. the Francis Galton archive – which comes to mind because I like linking to his 1864 letter to The Times headed “Africa for the Chinese” – like you c. 1980 he had already formed a favourable sociobiological view of the Chinese :-)

  24. A possible consequence of the Bolshevik Revolution was the rise of anti-Semitism in Germany. In Munich refugees from the Russian Empire met members of a new German Nationalist party, the NSDAP. The interactions between these people are believed to have resulted in the adoption of extreme anti-semitic policies by the NSDAP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aufbau_Vereinigung

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  25. A crucial underlying cause of the First World War was Britain’s belief that only a preventative war could forestall a rising Germany, but I suspect that an important secondary cause was the parallel German notion that similar measures were necessary against a rising Russia.

    There was possibly another cause,-Britain’s fear of Russian expansion in East Asia and towards Persia and India. It has been argued that the British sought to redirect Russia towards Constantinople and the Balkans, thus bringing the latter into conflict with Austria-Hungary and Germany. http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-silk-roads-to-great-war.html

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  26. By contrast, one land I found especially fascinating was China, the world’s most populous country and its oldest continuous civilization,

    A bit of a whopper from a man of Mr Unz’s Classical background. Chinese writing goes back to about 1250 BC, but Mycenaean Greek writing goes back to at least 1450 BC. And if you accept the hypothesis that Hurrian and Urartrian were merely the official languages of an essentially Armenian people, you can push Armenian civilisation back well beyond 2000 BC.

    • Replies: @Frankie P
    , @Anon
  27. A brave and necessary essay. I was not aware of many of the details here.

    That said, it’s worth noting that whatever the figures that Schiff contributed during 1917, they would have paled into irrelevance to the 50 million gold marks ($1 billion in modern currency) that the German government funneled through Swedish and Danish banks to the Bolsheviks in Saint-Petersburg that year. The Bolshevik Revolution would not have happened without vast amounts of German money (which, given the wartime context, is understandable).

    Incidentally, apart from being the Bolsheviks’ main money-man in the West, Olof Aschberg also acquired one of the world’s finest collections of Russian icons in the process of selling the values that the Bolsheviks had looted. The collection now resides in a Swedish museum.

    I recently discovered that his son is rather “colorful” too. Robert Aschberg went being a Maoist in his youth to the anti-racist commissar of Swedish journalism. Dollars to peanuts he also hates current-day Russia, hates Putin, etc. Incidentally, he used to be Director-General of the Swedish Institute, which last year released a 14,000 member list of far right extremists on Twitter, such as myself.

  28. iffen says:
    @Seraphim

    Should we expect the same tsunami of comments

    You can only jump the shark one time.

    After that, commentary will mostly appeal to the clueless and those who love tragicomedy.

  29. Frankie P says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Do you know what “continuous” means?

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  30. @Jon Halpenny

    The last thing GB wanted is that Russia got control of the Straits.

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
  31. @JohnnyWalker123

    The plans to destabilise the ME originate in Israel.
    If part of these plans was to destabilise Europe too, possible, but I never heard of it.
    Soros’ indoctrination scheme for open society has been running for many decades.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Paw
  32. @Jon Halpenny

    German antisemitism began around 1870.
    Ismar Schorsch, ‘Jewish Reactions to German Anti-Semitism, 1870 – 1914′, New York 1972

  33. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    As I feel that the subject of German responsibility for the outbreak of WW1, relevant for the outbreak of the revolution in Russia, will be attacked with gusto, I suggest to keep in mind firmly the fact that Germany was the first to declare war on Russia. The reason was indeed the fear that Russia by 1916 would be unbeatable and all the objectives of the ‘Weltpolitik’ of Germany, which would have been at a certain point in time opposed and countered by Russia. To refresh your memory, the date of the calculations was 1912. Just a few words for orientation (from Wikipedia):

    “The German Imperial War Council of 8 December 1912 was an informal conference of some of the highest military leaders of the German Empire. Meeting at the Stadtschloss in Berlin, they discussed and debated the tense military and diplomatic situation in Europe at the time. As a result of the Russian Great Military Program announced in November, Austria-Hungary’s concerns about Serbian successes in the First Balkan War, and certain British communications, the possibility of war was a prime topic of the meeting…
    [Kaiser Wilhelms'] opinion was that Austria-Hungary should attack Serbia that December, and if “Russia supports the Serbs, which she evidently does… then war would be unavoidable for us, too,” and that this would be better now than later, after completion of (the just begun) massive modernization and expansion of the Russian army and railway system toward Germany. Moltke agreed. In his professional military opinion “a war is unavoidable and the sooner the better”. Moltke “wanted to launch an immediate attack”…
    Admiral Tirpitz, however, asked for a “postponement of the great fight for one and a half years” because the Navy was not ready for a general war that included Britain as an opponent. He insisted that the completion of the construction of the U-boat base at Heligoland and the widening of the Kiel Canal were the Navy’s prerequisites for war. The British historian John Röhl has pointed out the coincidence that the date for completion of the widening of the Kiel Canal was the summer of 1914, but a reading of the report of the conference shows no agreement as to a war in 1914. However, Tirpitz did say that the Navy wanted to wait until the Kiel Canal was ready in summer 1914 before any war could start. Though Moltke objected to the postponement of the war as unacceptable, Wilhelm sided with Tirpitz. Moltke yielded “only reluctantly.”…

    The ‘controversial’ book of Fritz Fischer “Griff nach der Weltmacht: Die Kriegzielpolitik des kaiserlichen Deutschland 1914–1918 (published in English as Germany’s Aims in the First World War), will certainly come into the discussions. He devotes a large chapter to the subversive operations of the Germans in Russia in order to provoke the revolution and the exit from the war with the help of the Jews and Social-Democrats (both Mensheviks and Bolsheviks).

    • Disagree: L.K
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  34. @Colin Wright

    Did you read the critique, Ron’s link?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  35. Jake says:

    Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for Ron Unz, who persists in telling far more truth than the powers that be normally allow to be expressed without arranging the ‘accidental’ death of the speaker/writer.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  36. @jilles dykstra

    In 1915 the British made a treaty promising Constantinople to the Russians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople_Agreement

  37. @Anon

    This is one reason why Jews keep insisting that blacks who commit crimes should only get a slap on the wrist and be turned loose right back into society again.

    No, the reason is so that the masses will welcome the police state for their own protection.

  38. Dr. Doom says:

    What is “taboo” to Zion Pigs? They have no morals. Certainly no religion. Their religion is a set of scrolls purchased in Khazaria. Named for their ancient chieftain Khazar, I believe. They are horribly inbred due to a nasty habit of molesting their own children, and they have the genetic disorders to prove it. Their great pretense of “racial purity” is hiding a horrible little secret. They are the whores of Asia. The steppes is where every marauding horde from Asia goes through to raid Europe. They are a polyglot of a sea of semen gang bangs by every horde that rode through. The biggest and lowest mongrels in the Whole World.
    Followers of Babylon and every vice. The homosexuality comes from kneeling to their horde guests and being Ben Dover at their service. The ultimate cuckold of the World. Their Yentas have inherited their foremothers propensity to lie back and take a train. The ones that didn’t submit DIED. A selected breeding down that has manifested in some nasty habits even to this day apparently.

    Dirty Laundry on the Line. The Fake Religiosity and History hides it…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  39. @Anatoly Karlin

    I recently discovered that his son is rather “colorful” too.

    Grandson, I believe.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
  40. @Anonymous

    Yes. Mao, Deng, and Zhou Enlai were all Jewish.

    Although it is widely believed Ho Chi Minh was Jewish, he was not. However, General Vo Nyugen Giap was, making the Vietnamese communist takeover tricky.

    This Asian is obviously Jewish. We can only hope she starts a revolution.

    • Replies: @peterike
    , @Anon
  41. JackOH says:

    Ron, extraordinary, provocative stuff in your American Pravda series. Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of Unz Review is my impression that this is how big-shouldered people of goodwill and genuinely liberal disposition used to talk a century ago. I don’t know squat about The Protocols except as it’s referred to by others, almost always prefaced as “anti-Semitic”. The Unzian approach: “Let’s read the damned thing”, seems to me superior and more grown-up.

    BTW-a childhood friend of mine and her husband, both Jewish and one of them observant, retired and now live in the Carolinas. Their occasional stories of elderly neighbors, call them Morris and Sheldon, returning from prison after having served time for white collar crimes such as tax evasion or improprieties on government contracts are sort of unintentionally funny. Looks like they missed the memo on how to be the world’s wire-pullers.

  42. Influenced by Maxim Gorky, he and his nephew Nikolai Pavlovich Schmit[e] were significant financial contributors of the Bolshevik faction of the Russian Social Democratic Workers Party including the newspaper Iskra.[12][13]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savva_Morozov

  43. Jake says:

    “From my distance of many decades, the text of the Protocols struck me as rather bland and even dull, describing in rather long-winded fashion a plan of secret subversion aimed at weakening the bonds of the social fabric, setting groups against each other, gaining control over political leaders by bribery and blackmail, and eventually restoring society along rigidly hierarchical lines with an entirely new group in control.”

    That sounds exactly like traditional WASP rule of non-WASP peoples, exactly the way, for example, that Brit Empire businesses set about arranging for revolution of New Spain against Spain, and then of Mexican mestizos and Indios against Mexican criollos (meaning full of nearly full European blood).

    Of course, Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judaizing heresy.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  44. From pages 390-1 of Henry Wickham Steed’s Through Thirty Years:

    ‘The gulf that severed Western Europe from Russia during the latter half of the 19th century was dug and kept open chiefly by Jewish resentment of Russian persecution of the Jews. Yet that resentment sprang also from Jewish detestation of the Russian Holy Synod and of the Russian Orthodox Church. … Against Russian Christian fanaticism was ranged an intense Jewish fanaticism hardly to be paralleled save among the more militant sects of Islam. This Jewish fanaticism allied itself with the anti-Russian forces before and during the earlier years of the war. It abated only when the Russian Revolution of March 1917 and the subsequent advent of Bolshevism, largely Jewish in doctrine and in personnel, overthrew the Russian Empire and the Russian Orthodox Church. The joy of Jewry at these events was not merely the joy of triumph over an oppressor but was also gladness at the downfall of hostile religious and semi-religious institutions—a joy, moreover, in which the Vatican shared, as its attitude towards the Bolshevist delegates to the Genoa Conference of April, 1922, significantly indicated.’

    The resurgence of Russian Christianity under President Putin has left the ‘joy of Jewry’ looking distinctly tattered. Enter the West’s largely Jewish-owned governments and media with their Russophobia campaign.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  45. I feel perhaps the most truthful book ever written on the Bolshevik Revolution was Juri Lina’s “Under The Sign Of The Scorpion”. It details both the heavy Jewish influence and the financial backing by American financiers such as the Schiff’s and Warburg’s
    https://archive.org/stream/Under The Sign Of The Scorpion/sign_scorpion#page/n0

    Another great source for information on the backing of the Bolshevik Revolution by American so called “Capitalist” is Anthony Sutton’s “Wall Street And The Bolshevik Revolution”

    https://archive.org/stream/WallStreetTheBolshevikRevolution#page/n0

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Them Guys
  46. Sean says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    At comment 7 above is an interview with Antony C. Sutton. From his book.

    http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-bolshevik-ch3.html
    Brockdorff-Rantzau’s ideas of directing or controlling the revolutionaries parallel, as we shall see, those of the Wall Street financiers. [...]

    A subsequent document5 outlined the terms demanded by Lenin, of which the most interesting was point number seven, which allowed “Russian troops to move into India”; this suggested that Lenin intended to continue the tsarist expansionist program. Zeman also records the role of Max Warburg in establishing a Russian publishing house and adverts to an agreement dated August 12, 1916, in which the German industrialist Stinnes agreed to contribute two million rubles for financing a publishing house in Russia.6

    Consequently, on April 16, 1917, a trainload of thirty-two, including Lenin, his wife Nadezhda Krupskaya, Grigori Zinoviev, Sokolnikov, and Karl Radek, left the Central Station in Bern en route to Stockholm. When the party reached the Russian frontier only Fritz Plattan and Radek were denied entrance into Russia. The remainder of the party was allowed to enter.

    The German-Jewish Economic Elite (1900 – 1933) was central to the German effort to help Lenin.

    • Replies: @Paw
  47. @JackOH

    WAYWARD JEWS

    I’ve known a few Jewish ex-cons, big tough druggies or con men.

    In jail, all the historical differences go right out the window. Its a black and white world in there.

    Usually Jewish ex-cons have a bunch of skinhead friends from jail with Swastika tattoos who will basically concur that “Some Jews are cool”.

    The toughest Jews will all be friends with the Nazis because they’ve done time with them.

  48. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Quite, man quite. the British Banksters would send your sweat ass to their London Tower for a neck stretching ceremony should they over hear Blasphemy suggesting “Britain was not strongest and most powerful promoter of WWI”.

    the case begins in earnest in 1896, Switzerland, Hertzl, Zionist Congress.
    The failure of the theme British and French and Russian Banksters(generally known as the Jewish controlled Entente) forced on the Congress (basically to orchestrate successfully the overthrow the whole of the oil and gas rich Ottoman Arab world. The plan was to replace the Ottoman system with a Colonial Rule of Law System, to enable Zionist producers of oil and gas access to Ottoman oil and gas). Revolution after revolution was initiated throughout the Balkans and Macedonia all designed in one way or the other to bring about this change..
    When regime change failed, plan B was initiated.. that plan involved using the highly distributed small groups of Jewish Populations to migrate into the Ottoman Territory. communicating the messages and propaganda to these distributed groups was a Jewish Network task. Immigration was weaponized and used to gain political control over the Ottoman Territory.. hence WWI purpose: get that control of Ottoman oil and block German and Russia competition for the Ottoman oil.
    British and French Palestine.. the result.

  49. @jilles dykstra

    Wasn’t Luther an anti Semite? And did this not infect his teachings?

  50. Check WALL STREET and THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION by Anthony Sutton, can be had on Amazon leaves no doubt that the Zionists bankers were behind the overthrow of the Russian government and they are behind the overthrow of the Russian and American governments today.

  51. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Disclaimer, this is exactly the kind of real thinking I like and find to be rare. Please join my TALTRA group on facebook.

  52. CornCod1 says:

    It turns out that the events of the past few years has proven that the views of “right-wing cranks,” anti-Semites and “conspiracy theorists” had a more correct view of world events than mainstream conservatives. In the eighties I used to gently dismiss the theories of my Bircher friends (gently because they were nice people). Now I know that most of them were right on the money. The events of the last few years have proven this. We have a shadowy “deep state” rebellion against our president, a James Bond villain named George Soros, whose activities Wikileaks proves controls the Democratic Party and other Leftist parties in Europe. Now, anyone with half a brain admits that secret societies control governments across the world.

    • Replies: @Bill
  53. I never read the Protocols in its entirely, only bits and pieces. I remember thinking it seemed to be written by a caricature of an evil villain, not even a Bond villain, but a Scooby Doo level villain. It screams fakery from its style. In form, though, it’s brilliant.

    If I were ever to pen something like it, for the Anglo-Saxon world, I would write it just like that. It imparts all necessary information and instructions, yet has plausible deniability built into it. “It’s a fraud, you see. It’s anti-Anglo-Saxon.”

    I admire you for your courage, Mr. Unz; this sort of self-published introspection cannot be as easy as you sometimes make it out to be. Yet, I believe, for the very sake of world peace, we need to at least be able to discuss these issues. If there’s nothing at all to them, let the light shine on the facts, and let each judge for himself. The censorship around certain issues, particularly of the Holocaust, only convinces some of their lack of historical authenticity. Laws aren’t required to back up claims which history easily vindicates, after all.

    • Agree: mark green
  54. utu says:
    @Johnnie Walker Read

    Juri Lina film or the revolution.

  55. A crucial underlying cause of the First World War was Britain’s belief that only a preventative war could forestall a rising Germany, but I suspect that an important secondary cause was the parallel German notion that similar measures were necessary against a rising Russia.

    Required reading here is The Silk Roads, by Frankopan. He demarcates the reason for Russo-German war. Edward Grey, English foreign minister, at the behest of a declining British empire, knew that Russian expansion in Asia would eventually threaten Britain’s Jewel in the Crown, India. Russia had to be turned from a focus on Asia to one on Europe, and alliances with the South Slavs proved just the trick. Russia rightly saw Austria as an easy target for territorial gains, setting off war amongst what had once been the Dreikaiserbund.

    Perfidious Albion has killed more people than any other country as direct and indirect result of policy.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  56. Most people also do not know, because of whitewashing history, that Germany in 1919 had a Bavarian Soviet Republic centered in Munich, headed by Communist Kurt Eisner. WWI vets, the Freikorps, and others rooted them out. Later Herr H and his men weren’t just street fighting for the hell of it; they were clashing with the Communists, still fighting to root the Communists all out once and for all. Not all Jews were Communists, but many Communists were Jews.

    In 1932, the three people on the ballot in Germany were old von Hindenberg, Hitler and Communist Ernst Thälmann. Eventually, as we know, Herr H won out. The rewriting history and whitewashing this Red scare, in the aftermath of WWII, has obscured all of this. My super educated Jewish husband, who was a history major, had never heard of this. All he knows is of trains going east, and nothing of the root of the fight.

    The same fight is actually going on today in a different form. If people knew more about the root of the fight generally, perhaps the issues would be clearer. Like @BenKenobi writes above: “And here we are.” The same fighting and choices in issues remain, but most people don’t even realize it.

    • Replies: @Bukowski
    , @Anonymous
  57. @Colin Wright

    I would like to see elaboration and justification of that apparently careful formulation of Ron’s that “a crucial underlying [sic] cause of the First World War was Britain’s belief [sic] that only a preventative war could forestall [sic] Germany”.

    Maybe Jilles Dykstra who makes the extraordinary claim that Britain, France and the Czar conspired to get up the war might pitch in.

    Rational consideration, absent any evidence, would star with the demographics. Unlike Germany and Russia the birth rates of France and Britain had become quite modern and sustainable. Consistently with its traditional balance of powers policy it made sense for Britain to make an alliance with France to deter Germany from attacking the latter and, in particular from occupying the Low Countries – an interest of Britain since at latest 1588. Germany would have to concentrate its resources on its army so its naval building program did not loom up as more than a cause of expense to the British taxpayer as Britain stepped up its shipbuilding program accordingly. In a world of no permanent friends what was it that made Britain turn the alleged belief into some action, not mentioned, to precipitate a war against Germany – especially when it must have known that Russia wasn’t yet ready. Or is there some record somewhere of Britain calculating that 1914 was the perfect time to ensure parity of German and Russian losses?

    • Replies: @refl
    , @jilles dykstra
  58. @Wizard of Oz

    He was a philo-semite, or at least sympathetic to the Jews re the Catholic Church. He seems to have expected the Jews to convert to Christianity under his new ideas. They rejected his version of the Gospel, unsurprisingly, and then he did a 180, and published, “On the Jews and Their Lies.”
    He seemed to believe that no honest, thinking person could deny what he was preaching, something hardly unusual in religious figures.

    Luther’s story somewhat parallels that of Mohammed, who was initially very gratuitous toward the local Jewish people in Medina. The Jews didn’t want any part of his new polity, and plotted in secret with his enemies, which proved catastrophic for those Jews.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @JackOH
    , @Wizard of Oz
  59. @Anarcho-Supremacist

    Anarcho-Supremacist? What bunk dedunk.

  60. @Cyrano

    Just a doin’ a what comes nachurally.

  61. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:

    Ron Unz is kickin’ ass and takin’ names! I just love American Pravda.

    The thing about Jacob Schiff is: what really motivated him? I think the standard version of the story is that he hated Czar because of the pogroms, the Cossacks, etc. But what if there was something more at work than some merely personal peeve, or some gauzy notion of ‘tikkum olaam’? Unz also mentions Olof Aschberg (whom I had never heard of), so what if this was not merely the lone act of vengeance of a single Russian Jew, but rather a real plot with a strategy?

    One other fact that Unz doesn’t mention that draws my attention is that, at exactly the same time that Schiff was financing the Bolsheviks, the US Army was deployed to Russia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force,_North_Russia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force,_Siberia

    What were they really doing there? Not even in the official version of events were they ‘fighting the Reds’. Some of my Russian contacts have insisted that this was really a sinister Anglo-Zionist plot to fragment or balkanize Russia. (I’m thinking along the lines of Mackinder’s old Eurasian ‘heartland’ theory, which some of the commenters above also mentioned.) If so, could it be that Schiff was really working in tandem with the US Govt. to carry out such a plan? Could it be that the original Bolsheviks were really just an ISIS-like terrorist group that somehow got out of hand and managed to take over all of Russia?

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  62. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @JackOH

    “the only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on.” – Henry Ford

    “There is a great force that creates the movement of thought in the people, and that is the media. It is in the media that the triumph of freedom of speech finds its incarnation. Through the Press we have gained the power to influence minds while remaining unobserved. We shall erase from the memory of men the historical facts we do not want them to know, and leave only those we wish”.- the Protocols

    Before you read “the damned thing”, you may read an interesting article by Mr Israel Shamir:

    The Elders of Zion and the Masters Discourse

    http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Elders_of_Zion.htm

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Seraphim
  63. utu says:
    @RebelWriter

    Philosemitic undercurrent was present in many anti RC heresies. Often the idea was that the reform would bring Jews to Christianity. Before Martin Luther there was Jan Hus and the subsequent splinter groups that believed that their improved Christianity would be more palatable to Jews. The end result was Judaization of Christianity.

    Martin Luther’s anti-semitism has all marks of resentment for being betrayed.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anonymous
  64. JackOH says:
    @RebelWriter

    Rebel, that’s pretty much my understanding, too, that Luther’s “On the Jews . . .” was a specific ephemeral work addressing a specific issue of the time with respect to Jews, the Church, and the Reformation. I scanned it years ago, in the Pelikan edition I think, and can’t remember much more about it. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it and other works of Luther described as adiaphoric, not essential to Luther’s teaching.

  65. @RebelWriter

    Thanks. Interesting. It does seem likely then that Luther contributed to anti Semitism in Germany well before the 19th century.

    Cf. also the novel Jud Suß by Lion Feuchtwanger which suggests there was popular anti Semitism in 18th century Germany.

  66. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Soros thinks he’s a god:

    It seems that Soros believes he was anointed by God. “I fancied myself as some kind of god …” he once wrote. “If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.”

    When asked by Britain’s Independent newspaper to elaborate on that passage, Soros said, “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.”

    … and not a benevolent one. The “philanthropist” persona is fake:

    Despite his reputation as an international philanthropist, Soros remains candid about his true charitable tendencies. “I am sort of a deus ex machina,” Soros told the New York Times in 1994. “I am something unnatural. I’m very comfortable with my public persona because it is one I have created for myself. It represents what I like to be as distinct from what I really am. You know, in my personal capacity I’m not actually a selfless philanthropic person. I’ve very much self-centered.”

    http://articles.latimes.com/2004/oct/04/opinion/oe-ehrenfeld4

    So there it is. The lizard himself gave you some basic truths. Now you’re free to connect the dots of his various “philanthropic” projects and see the common thread (white genocide).

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    , @Paw
  67. @jilles dykstra

    Dear Innocent in Paradise: German “Anti-Semitism” was the invention of a Jewish journalist, Wilhelm Marr (yes, he was Jewish, and Karl Marx was a Lutheran) hired by the Zionists to prepare the way for the coming of the Millennium. Anti-Semitism was at that time already invented in Russia by a respectable doctor, Leon Pinsker, who said Anti-Semitism is thousands of years old, hereditary and incurable. Dr. Pinsker MD was an early front man, a public spokesman for Zionism, who already adopted Hatikvah as the anthem, before Herzl was hired. And yes, Theodore Herzl was also a hired journalist, a front man, an employee, who did as he was told, until he was disposed of. And yes, the Dreyfus Affair was a gimmick, a phony Psy-Op like 9/11. And yes, Emile Zola was another hired journalist. And yes, the pogroms, including the Kishinev pogrom, were just riots. The people killed were rioters. That the pogroms were Anti-Jewish is pure spin, like what you watch on television. Goyim are hopeless and helpless, muscle bound but dumb, a little like cattle or beasts of burden. Give them a peanut, and they are grateful. You can dance circles around them. You can tell them everything, and they just grunt. And then you can lead them by the ring in their noses because they were not endowed with free-will and can’t think for themselves.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Paw
  68. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Elders_of_Zion.htm

    Indeed Israel Shamir’s article on Elders of Zion is very good. He cites Solzhenitsyn:

    “The Protocols … show a blueprint of a social system. Its design is well above abilities of an ordinary mind, including that of its publisher. It is a dynamic process of two stages, of destabilization, increasing freedom and liberalism, which is terminated in social cataclysm, and on the second stage, new hierarchical restructuring of society takes place. It is more complicated than a nuclear bomb. It could be a stolen and distorted plan designed by a mind of genius. Its putrid style of an anti-Semitic grubby brochure [intentionally] obscures the great strength of thought and insight”.

    “The text demonstrates impressive foresight on the two systems of society, the Western and the Soviet one. While a strong thinker could possibly predict the development of the West in 1901, how could he grasp the Soviet future?”

    The master-plan begins with reshaping of human mind:

    “People’s minds should be diverted (away from contemplation) towards industry and trade, and then they will have no time to think. The people will be consumed by the pursuit of gain. It will be vain pursuit, for we shall put industry on a speculative basis: what is withdrawn from the land by industry will slip through the hands of workers and industrialists and pass into the hands of financiers.
    The intensified struggle for survival and superiority, accompanied by crises and shocks will create cold and heartless communities with strong aversion towards religion. Their only guide is gain that is Mammon, which they will erect into a veritable cult”.

    Foresight of Anonym is amazing: in the days of the Protocols’ publication, Man was still the measure of things, and full eighty years would pass, until Milton Friedman and Chicago School would proclaim Market and Profit as the only guiding light.

    • Replies: @j2
  69. @Wizard of Oz

    Martin Luther was a competing product to Judaism, but the same materialist, Dualist thing in Christian garb. He was just knocking the competition. The princes supported him because he said that the peasants deserved to treated like animals. Because they were animals.

    • Replies: @Bill
    , @Wizard of Oz
  70. “When one discovers a tear in the fabric of reality, there is a natural tendency to nervously peer within, wondering what mysterious objects might dwell there.”

    Very Lovecraftian statement. In the previous American Pravda, Ron Unz revealed the polytheistic secret of Judaism. Perhaps the above “mysterious objects” found in the void beyond the veil are the gods of the Kabbalah.

    ” … two of his [Fleming's] most memorable Bond villains, Goldfinger and Blofeld, had distinctly Jewish-sounding names, and that so many of the plots involve schemes of world-conquest by Spectre …”

    Agree with the idea that Goldfinger is Fleming’s concept of an international criminal of Jewish origin, probably an agent of the Schiff or Rothschild cartels. But Spectre was a representation of the shadow power in the Cold War — the ODESSA/Die Spinne network of diaspora Nazis who had operational ties with the Dulles faction at CIA.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  71. @Anatoly Karlin

    Robert Aschberg is not the son, but the granson of Robert Aschberg. He was central in Swedish maoism in the seventies, then turned to journalism. He has been a driving force in the “anti-extremism”-movement in Sweeden. Not just the Swedish Institute, but also the Expo – a Swedish branch of the ADL/SPLC “antiracist” network.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  72. You failed to mention the Schiff-Gore merger: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/kgore.htm

  73. Dutch Boy says:

    Transferring a good part of American manufacturing to China and beggaring the American working class thereby had quite a bit to do with the Chinese economic miracle and that was done by our own ruling class, not the Chinese.

  74. Wally says:
    @Seraphim

    Said by a hasbarist / Zionist who hates free speech.

    And yes, that tsunami is coming whether you like it or not.

    http://www.codoh.com

  75. @Anonymous

    Easy, the Entente were blocking Russian ports so that they could not be utilized by the Germans, whom they were at war with.

    This was of course a tragedy for Russia, since the Bolsheviks could point to this as evidence of an Angl0-French “invasion” of Russia and portray themselves as its defenders (even though they themselves were more or less direct hirelings of the Germans), while the Whites got entirely negligible military benefits from it.

    There’s no need for conspiracies on this score. None of the Western Powers had a democratic mandate to participate in the Russian Civil War, and having the Bolsheviks win was not entirely negative from their perspective, since there would then be no need to share the postwar spoils with it (the French were a partial exception, since the Bolshevik repudiation of Tsarist era debt hit them far harder).

    • Replies: @anon
  76. Wally says:
    @Charlie Wyoming

    What ‘pogroms’ do you refer to.
    Please present proof.

    Thanks.

  77. Wally says:
    @Sean

    If so, then what exactly did that “microfilm text” say?
    And citation, please.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Sean
  78. @Charlie Wyoming

    “Democratic Socialism is on its way.”

    It’s already here in the form of a mixed economy. What we need to fear is the new breed of elites, Trotskyite racialists who have prospered in the capitalist game and now want world revolution, at the behest of the Babylonian supremacist cult.

  79. Wally says:
    @Cyrano

    said:
    “Or was the Bolshevik revolution a payback for the pogroms? ”

    Please present proof for these alleged “pogroms”.

    said:
    “According to some, one of the ethnic groups that have benefited the most from the good old capitalism are the Jews.”

    You surely mean “capitalism” where Jews play by a different set of self serving rules.

    http://www.codoh.com

  80. Ronnie says:

    Another very significant book of the time is “The Rulers of Russia” 1938 by Father Denis Fahey (Amazon), an Irish Catholic Priest who had traveled to Russia and analyzed the make up and financing of the Revolution. He made most of the same points as Ron and his book was widely sold at the time even in the USA. Although Fahey was a noted theologist he was also a brilliant observer and acute analyst. I think that Ron Unz would be very interested to read this book from a sophisticated and honest contemporary of the Revolution.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  81. @Anonymous

    “Soros thinks he’s a god …”

    By the weights and measures of the Materialist reality, Soros is a god.

  82. @Hans Olav Brendberg

    Correct, I made a mistake, Robert is ofc Olof’s grandson, it can’t be otherwise even just age-wise.

    As a Swede (I assume), do you know what his position on Russia is? I imagine it’s the standard Putlerreich narrative, perhaps turned up to 11. I am curious to see if this guess is correct.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  83. Wally says:
    @silviosilver

    said:
    “Neo-nazis take that and run with it, which leads to all sorts of weird and wonderful conspiracy theories, …”

    Please tell us what alleged ‘neo-Nazi’ “weird and wonderful conspiracy theories” that it “leads” to.

    http://www.codoh.com

  84. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Yes id like to see Unz take a run at anthony suttons work which strikes me probably true but all these things so hard to get to bottom when memory holed by powers that be

  85. roo_ster says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Luther started out philo-semetic. He railed against the Roman church for using bad technique in its efforts to convert Jews to Christianity. Once the Jews heard Luther and his way of explaining the Gospel, they’d come around.

    Then Luther met and interacted with many learned and influential Jews and modified his views accordingly.

  86. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    But Spectre was a representation of the shadow power in the Cold War — the ODESSA/Die Spinne network of diaspora Nazis who had operational ties with the Dulles faction at CIA.

    It is likely that Odessa/Spinne was penetrated by Mossad. Founding member Otto Skorzeny was probably an asset: https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/the-strange-case-of-a-nazi-who-became-a-mossad-hitman-1.5423137

    • Replies: @Paw
  87. @Seraphim

    ‘…“The German Imperial War Council of 8 December 1912 was an informal conference of some of the highest military leaders of the German Empire…” ‘

    Yes, but…

    I think all the great powers were making preparations and calculations in the same way.

    Against this must be set the fact that Germany was essentially a ‘satisfied power’ at the time. As even your quote implies, she sought no change in the status quo, but on the contrary, feared such a change.

    It was other powers that threatened to bring about that change: France, with her incessant scheming and machinations to create a coalition that could avenge 1870, Serbia, with her pathological belligerence towards everyone, Russia, with her Slavophile pretensions that, in the upshot, led her to support a Serbia that was manifestly in the wrong. Here, too, France played an apparently key if obscured role in egging both Serbia and Russia on, and then in the case of Russia, making sure she didn’t back down.

    I am not arguing that Germany was innocent. I am merely insisting that (a) it was above all the underlying paradigm that made an eventual explosion probable, and that (b) other powers were more at fault.

    There’s a lot to be said about it. For example, it’s been argued that if Austria hadn’t delayed and sought the support of Germany, but rather, had promptly attacked Serbia, then the other powers wouldn’t have found themselves taking up the positions that made general war inevitable. Of course, this makes the rather dubious assumption that Austria could in fact have quickly beaten Serbia, but it is an example of how the blame for the greater conflagration shifts depending on how one looks at it.

    Germany can be blamed for the gratuitious provocation of building a High Seas Fleet. However, if there was any one nation that could have prevented the war from breaking out, it would have been France. Absent her activities, a great war becomes discernably less probable. Serbia would never have dared to have engaged in the provocations she did, and isolated and without encouragement from France, Russia would have been more likely to seek security in an accord with Germany and Austria rather than hostility towards them. After all, for Russia above all, a great war objectively offered nothing. Finally, theories about British bankers notwithstanding, I see Britain as less guilty than any other player. She didn’t even have an immense conscript army. She was the only player who had refrained from building one.

  88. Mike P says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    The joy of Jewry at these events was not merely the joy of triumph over an oppressor but was also gladness at the downfall of hostile religious and semi-religious institutions …

    The resurgence of Russian Christianity under President Putin has left the ‘joy of Jewry’ looking distinctly tattered. Enter the West’s largely Jewish-owned governments and media with their Russophobia campaign.

    Good observations. However, the degenerate Western “elites,” whose degradation was caused to a large extent by decades of Zionist blackmail and corruption, are unable to mount another serious challenge to a renewed Russia supported by a rapidly surging China.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rottenborough
  89. LSJohn says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “If you replace “Germany” with “Russia,” perhaps this paragraph would be a good explanation of why Western leaders hate Russia so much. ”

    Simpler than that: Russia supports Iran and Syria, which each support Hezbollah, Public Enemies #s 1, 2, and 3 of you-know-who(m),

  90. Anon[781] • Disclaimer says:

    …therefore regarded American history as just too bland and boring to study.
    By contrast, one land I found especially fascinating was China, the world’s most populous country and its oldest continuous civilization, with a tangled modern history of revolutionary upheaval…

    In macro terms, Chinese history was more exciting because of massive upheavals and titans like Mao.
    But in micro terms, Chinese history of the 20th century was mostly simple: Until 1950, chaos, humiliation, and incompetence. After 1950 to mid 70s, one-man show of Maoism, a period that produced nothing of interest in thought, art, literature, science, technology, cinema, music, etc. In contrast, US history produced so many important individuals and movements in the arts, sciences, enterprise, music, and just about everything. For Mao to be god, everyone had to be ant-like minions. The US, having a more stable system and short-term leaders, was less exciting on a grand scale. But it achieved so much in so many areas.

  91. utu says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    That said, it’s worth noting that whatever the figures that Schiff contributed during 1917, they would have paled into irrelevance to the 50 million gold marks ($1 billion in modern currency) that the German government funneled through Swedish and Danish banks to the Bolsheviks in Saint-Petersburg that year.

    But we do not know how much money Schiff put into the project of revolution. We know that he put a lot of money into Japan:

    http://nda-repository.nda.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/11605/91/1/1-2_人文科学抜刷_村岡先生.pdf
    By the end of 1905, Kuhn, Loeb&Co., to the surprise of many, floated a bond issue in the sum of $200 million – equivalent to some $4.5 billion in today’s money. Schiff’s loans were an important factor—and his extensive financial involvement, a deciding factor—in bringing victory to Japan.

    Is it possible that German project was linked and coordinated with Schiff? Who was peddling this project to Germans? Are there any links between Alexander Pavrus and Jacob Schiff?

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  92. Small issue:

    I had been aware that he had long been as one of the wealthiest and most highly-regarded individuals in America

    Missing word or redundant word in there …

    • Replies: @David
  93. Rurik says:

    Great read, Mr. Unz.

    He very matter-of-factly mentions that Schiff, Warburg and the other top Jewish international bankers were among the leading backers of the Jewish Bolsheviks, through whom they hoped to gain an opportunity for the Jewish exploitation of Russia,

    Echoes of the (((“Russian”))) oligarchs that looted the wealth and resources of the Russian people following the generations of Jewish Bolshevik genocide and slavery of the Russian people.

    They go from being brutalized by commie Jews, to being looted by (crony, klepto)-capitalist Jews. Such a deal!

    Many people point out that the “Russian” oligarchs weren’t all Jews, and neither was Yeltsin- who summarily betrayed Russia and her people to destitution on behalf of their most intractable enemy, and they’d be right.

    But I feel an article like this should include the worst and most loathsome man who ever lived, and he wasn’t a Jew.

    Schiff and Trotsky would have been stopped long before their treachery could have sent Russia and millions of others reeling into the abyss, were it not for the most execrable man who ever befouled the ether; a one president Woodrow Wilson.

    It was Wilson who accommodated Schiff by betraying the American people and handing over the keys to our Treasury to this sinister cabal of Jewish supremacist banksters.

    It was Wilson whose betrayals and intrigues allowed for Trotsky to escape Canadian internment and be sent with ‘suitcases’ full of lucre into Russia, with Wilson even arranging a passport and transport documents.

    Also, we shouldn’t forget that it was also Wilson who promised the American people that he would keep us out of the war, (and was consequently elected president) and then did all he could to betray that promise, and involve us in that disastrous conflict.

    Let’s not forget that it was Wilson who foisted the ruse of his “Fourteen Points”, guaranteeing ‘self-determination’ to Germany if she laid down her arms, only to betray Germany with a starvation campaign into signing Germans into perpetual slavery. Leading directly to WWII, and all the attendant horrors.

    The weight of Woodrow Wilson’s singular treachery, treason, betrayals and enormities is beyond my comprehension, but when calculating the worst villains of the 20th century, he certainly takes all the cakes I can think of.

    http://www.wildboar.net/multilingual/easterneuropean/russian/literature/articles/whofinanced/whofinancedleninandtrotsky.html

    The Bolshevik government of Russia paid the volume its own sort of deep respect, with mere possession of the Protocols warranting immediate execution.

    Not just possession of the Protocols, but any perceived ‘anti-Semitism’ was declared a capital offense when Lenin came to power. (I remember reading somewhere, that this law, death for “anti-Semites”, was the first one enacted, but I don’t remember where I read that).

    http://truthmegasite.com/the-bolshevik-revolution-in-russia-was-the-work-of-jewish-planning-and-jewish-dissatisfaction-our-plan-is-to-have-a-new-world-order/

    with the Schiff story seen as conclusion proof of his delusional anti-Semitism.

    conclusive ?

    Plato and Machiavelli as a classic of Western political thought.

    the problem I would have with calling it “Western”, is that I consider the Protocols (and Bolshevism), as distinctively anti-Western.

    For me, the meaning of ‘Western’ goes back to the Greeks and Romans, marching though Bysantium and finding its perfect expression in the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, and is an expression of something intrinsic to the spirit and genes of Western man. Fundamental to what I’d describe as the ultimate virtue of the West, is honor. IOW honesty, decency, blood, home and hearth. Father and motherland, and fair play.

    Whereas the Protocols seems to mock these notions as the weaknesses of ‘beast-like’ simpletons. The Achilles heal of the West- to be exploited as a means to bashing the West on the rocks of genocidal malevolence, and enslaving the survivors, just as the Old Testament commands.

    So it’s difficult for me to consider the Protocols anywhere near the writings of Plato/Socrates, who seemed above all to love the Truth. Whereas such quaint weaknesses like ‘honor’ are exploited in the Protocols with sinister glee.

    Sort of like comparing Ron Paul to Richard Pearl. To me they are mutually exclusive.

    Anyway, you’re a magnificent and brave intellect Mr. Unz, for taking on these most salient and even urgent issues of our day.

    Kudos to you Sir!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Paw
  94. sarz says:

    Brother Nathanael Kapner at realjewnews.com has published several pieces on the status of the Protocols,showing why they are not to be dismissed with the usual tired responses such as “forgeries”. Put Protocols in the search box at his site.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  95. Sean says:
    @Wally

    It was the Times on microfilm so a reproduction of that days edition. Don’t get me wrong the Times article can be read as fully endorsing them, but that is the bit where the piece is rhetorically imagining the effect of the Protocols on lesser minds, so such a quote would be really obtuse if it was sincere . The Times article that is often cited as accepting the Protocols authenticity actually took it for granted that the Protocols were fake, it just bemoaned the lack of information proving they were not what they purported to be. The Times piece was an appeal for someone to find out exactly who wrote the protocols.

    • Replies: @Wally
  96. ” ‘…“The German Imperial War Council of 8 December 1912 was an informal conference of some of the highest military leaders of the German Empire…” ‘ ”

    The Morgenthau phantasy ?

  97. Anon[680] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    I got $50 on the holocaust

    • Replies: @Moi
  98. Not longer afterward, the facts regarding the enormous financial support provided to the Bolsheviks

    Another small one.

  99. @Wizard of Oz

    Balfour already in 1907 said to the USA ambassador ‘that maybe war was the cheapest way to keep the British standard of living’.
    Patrick J. Buchanan, ‘Churchill, Hitler and “The unnecessary war”, How Britain lost its empire and the west lost the world’, New York, 2008, Balfour, US ambassador Henry White, 1907, page 48/ 49

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  100. @ploni almoni

    See also:
    Fritz Stern, ‘Gold and Iron, Bismarck, Bleichröder, and the Building of the German Empire’, New York, 1977.
    Jakob Wassermann, ‘MEIN WEG ALS DEUTSCHER UND ALS JUDE’, Berlin 1921
    ‘From prejudice to destruction’, Jacob Katz, 1980, Cambridge MA
    ‘Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry’, Moshe Y Herclz, 1993 New York University press

  101. @Jon Halpenny

    Never heard of this treaty.
    If you just read the introduction you understand that it never was.
    If you understood anything of geopolitics you would know that never would Britain allow Russia free access to the Med.
    The movement of grain ships from Russia to the Med interrupted for two days, already Russia could not pay the interest on her foreign debt.
    So the Straits were perfect for controlling Russia.
    It of course may have been that perfidious Albion held out a herring.

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
    , @Seraphim
  102. Hibernian says:
    @Jake

    Juarez served the purpose of evicting the French. Criollo rule continues to this day, exemplified by my Hibernian brother Vicente Fox.

  103. Old fogey says:
    @Sean

    Many thanks for the link to Antony Sutton. I will need to read his books. He had scathing things to say about the Hoover Institution, by the way.

    • Replies: @James Charles
  104. Hibernian says:
    @Colin Wright

    “She didn’t even have an immense conscript army.”

    We Americans proved in 1863, 1917, 1940, and 1948 (this last continuing until 1971) that those can be put together quickly, as long as you have a strong cadre to start with. The British have a strong tradition of reserve units, also.

  105. Anonym says:
    @Heros

    So when I read these Pravda articles, I am always frustrated because Ron Unz is always deferring to some hidden jew in his background who he knows will take offense at what he says, so he has to temper it. Because he is a jew, he cannot call a lying jew a lying jew, or he will be ostracized and boycotted even more. Unz tells us how Ford documents event after event for 80 chapters about how jews have conspired, tricked, committed fraud, and even murdered Christians, sometimes in rituals, to cover it all up, yet as a Jew he cannot understand that we Christians find this centuries old, documented, and still ongoing, satanic blood conspiracy to be worthy of more than a nod and a “tsk”.

    I think within the last few weeks Ron has shown immense courage. Ron is an agent of reform and I am thankful he exists.

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

  106. Art says:

    The Unz Review is a modern day – The Dearborn Independent.

    Thanks!

    Art

  107. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    For God’s sake read Strunk and White, or if you have, follow Strunk’s rule: “eliminate unnecessary words”: all those damn intensifiers — very, actually, entirely, somewhat, rather importantly, extremely, considerably, exactly, etc.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Bill
    , @Mike P
    , @Ron Unz
  108. Bukowski says:
    @Winnetou1889

    A lot of people also don’t know that there was a short lived communist government in Hungary in 1919 led by Bela Kun.

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/some_pics_from_cecile_tormay.htm

  109. @Frankie P

    None of the civilisations mentioned has been continuous in the sense of unconquered. All have been subject to foreign conquest, partition and warring states at various times. The last continuous civilisation was the Japanese, until their defeat in 1945.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @Frankie P
  110. peterike says:
    @Johnny Rico

    Yes. Mao, Deng, and Zhou Enlai were all Jewish.

    You mock, but in fact there WERE Jews along with Mao. Which is another topic for Ron some day, perhaps.

    https://forward.com/schmooze/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/

    https://jewishjournal.com/news/world/179731/

  111. sarz says:
    @Dan Hayes

    No, my money for “the eminent computer scientist” is definitely on Claude Shannon, whom I ran into a couple of times in the 60s at the house of a Jewish friend and mentor of mine with whom he used to play chess. I knew about his communism, but not about his Jewish mother. The main thing about him, of course, was that he had pioneered information theory.

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Anon
  112. Rurik says:
    @sarz

    Put Protocols in the search box at his site.

    from the article

    In any event, this short work is now available as one of my HTML Books, making it quite convenient for reading and text-searching.

    The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

    http://www.unz.com/book/anonymous__the-protocols-of-the-learned-elders-of-zion/

  113. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy

    “eliminate unnecessary words”: all those damn intensifiers — very, actually, entirely, somewhat, rather importantly, extremely, considerably, exactly, etc.

    • Replies: @Allan
  114. Once I checked around a little, I discovered that numerous mainstream accounts described the enormous hostility of Schiff towards the Czarist regime for its ill-treatment of Jews

    But the Czarist regime had already fallen in March 1917 and the liberals that replaced it enacted Jewish emancipation.
    And the allies, including the US, had no interest in overthrowing the provisional government, they wanted it to continue the war against Germany, so Schiff would have acted against American interests, surely not without some risk.
    And of course in November 1917 there was the Balfour declaration, which should have aligned any ethnocentric Jewish nationalist with the Allied cause.
    So apart from irrational hatred of Russia, what plausible motive could Schiff have had for financing the Bolsheviks?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @ploni almoni
    , @Paw
  115. Arnieus says:

    By the time Jewish capitalists financed the Bolsheviks they had honed their weaponized economics to a high degree. The similar MO of most if not all “revolutions” in Europe gives credence to the reality of this articles premise.

    It is not hard to find Jewish financing for Cromwell, and later William of Orange. One of the first things William did after deposing James was borrow money to fight France from a central bank the newly created Bank of England. The French and the Bolshevik revolutions were instigated and financed and the reining monarchs were murdered just like Cromwell executed Charles the first. In France the aristocracy was wiped out. Napoleon thwarted the banker plan in France and was put down with Rothschild financing. The revolution in Germany that deposed Kaiser Wilhelm and ended WWI was all too similar though the Kaiser escaped the fate of his cousin in Russia. Like Napoleon, Hitler thwarted the agenda planned for Germany, that is a Bolshevik slaughter of Germans. WWII was the result. As Russia is all too aware the US spent billions to hire revolutionaries to depose the elected, Russia friendly government in the Ukraine.

    The revolutions are not ideological. All that “workers paradise” and “freedom and liberty” drivel is to motivate the peasants. Russia was pillaged and the likes of Jacob Schiff received a 20-fold return on investment. Only Bankers win the wars.

  116. @Ronnie

    Another very significant book of the time is “The Rulers of Russia” 1938 by Father Denis Fahey

    It’s in the public domain. Here is a link (PDF):

    https://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/WebSources/B_345_The-Rulers-of-Russia.pdf

  117. @Anatoly Karlin

    This dipshit led the program Trolljägarna (Troll Hunters), which EXPOSED internet commenters with right-wing views. Such as the dangerously extremist view that Sweden is for Swedes.

    He has the standard Establishment views on Russia and Putin. See this op-ed in Aftonbladet (evening daily, formerly had a working class orientation): https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/a/qnpWom/sociala-medier–demokratins-undergang

    Rysslands Vladimir Putin har trollfabriker som jobbar dygnet runt och har satt upp tweet-robotar som den senaste tiden gjort allt för att stödja separatisterna i Katalonien.

    Russia’s Vladimir Putin has troll factories who work around the clock and have set up Twitter robots that the most recent time did everything to support the separatists in Catalonia.

    Karl XII should be reviled less for his disastrous invasion of Russia and more for bringing the Jews into Sweden for the first time ever.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
  118. @Colin Wright

    Add to that the tight connection between jews and the secret police and spys and – you know: intelligence services of all kinds in Eastern Europe. It’s said, that they were heavily dominated by Jews – one of the rather solid reasons for anti-semitism there after the implosion of the Eastern Block.

    Later famous German literary critic Marcel Reich-Ranicki for example was one of those secret service men in London after he had survived the Third Reich in a hideawy in Poland.

  119. jsm says:
    @Anon

    his is one reason why Jews keep insisting that blacks who commit crimes should only get a slap on the wrist and be turned loose right back into society again. They honest-to-god think that scolding will stop sociopaths in their tracks, in denial of all evidence,

    Why do you assert that Jews insist criminal blacks be let out because they honest to go think scolding will work…

    …as opposed to…

    that the Jews insist blacks be let out because they are parasites who want to weaken their White host?

    What makes YOU an expert in what goes on in Jews’ minds?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @jsm
  120. SCL says:

    I think it is odd that no one has mentioned Solzhenitsyn’s TWO HUNDRED YEARS TOGETHER. It seems the obscuring of this work has been successful.

    • Disagree: utu
  121. There are some other examples of Jewish influence in America which few people are aware of.

    In the latter part of the 19th century, it became customary for the United States to send Jewish ambassadors to the Sublime Porte. The first Jew was appointed in 1889, and up until the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire WASPs would only hold the post for a total of seven years.

    The reason why hardly needs to be explained.

    Jews also helped poison Russo-American relations in this period (which previously had been quite friendly) by successfully lobbying the American government to intervene diplomatically every time there was a pogrom in Russia.

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  122. Jews have never found a more secure perch than within the Anglo-Saxon nations of England and the United States.

    Jews have rarely displayed any gratitude whatsoever for being able to launch their global plots from such safe perches.

    Jacob Schiff was a Jew globalizer banker who funded the Jew-controlled Bolsheviks in Russia. The Jews were so fond of Bolshevism because they saw it as an excellent way to attack and destroy their European Christian enemies.

    Paul Singer, George Soros, Seth Klarman, Mark Zuckerberg, Shelly Adelson, Mike Bloomberg and many other wealthy Jews are no different than Jacob Schiff.

    Mass immigration will prove to be the ultimate undoing of the Jews in European Christian nations.

    The response to the Jew push for open borders mass immigration will be the mass expulsion of Jews from European Christian nations.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Anon
  123. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Much of the problem with Jacob Schiff and his ilk is that he actually thought the ‘socialist utopia’ was achievable. He believed all the propaganda. When he was donating his money, he had no clue the communist takeover would turn out to be a bloody failure detested by the Russian people who lived all their lives under the system, although there was certainly a strong element of “Let’s get revenge on the Tsar and his ilk for treating us like animals,” in Schiff’s thinking.

    Lol no!

    The “socialist utopia” angle was clearly designed to appeal to the poor Russian goyim. Did I miss the part where Schiff abandoned his treasures and moved to Russia to bask in that utopia?

    The “revenge” angle was the goal. Obviously. He poured money into “utopia propaganda” and into “revenge”. Only one of them worked as advertised. Imagine my shock.

    Much of what Jews have been trying to do in politics during the 20th century is idealistic …

    Haha, save that shit for Yahoo Answers or Wikipedia.

  124. @utu

    Is it possible that German project was linked and coordinated with Schiff? Who was peddling this project to Germans? Are there any links between Alexander Pavrus and Jacob Schiff?

    From The World at the Cross Roads by Boris Brasol (1921), pp. 70-71:

    The full history of the interlocking participation of the Imperial German Government and international finance in the destruction of the Russian Empire is not yet written. Much time and research will be required in order to disentangle the complex relations between the two powers, which sought to beat down the Russian Colossus which for centuries stood as a watchful sentinel on the border of Europe, protecting Western civilization from savage invasions originated in the depths of Asia.

    It is not a mere coincidence that at the notorious meeting held at Stockholm in 1916, between the former Russian Minister of the Interior, Protopopoff, and the German Agents, the German Foreign Office was represented by Mr. Warburg, whose two brothers were members of the international banking firm Kuhn, Loeb & Company, of which the late Mr. Jacob Schiff was a senior member. Nor is it a mere coincidence that in the later stages of the Russian Revolution we still find international finance hard at work engaged in further endeavors to break the last resistance of Russia against the onslaught of the “Triple Alliance” — that is of the Central Powers, Revolutionary internationalism and International Finance itself.

    This is a link to the book (pdf).

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  125. @Mike P

    Mike P—Yes, the chances of engineering another Russian Revolution or replacing Russians with assorted ethnics are slim indeed.

  126. @Thorfinnsson

    In the latter part of the 19th century, it became customary for the United States to send Jewish ambassadors to the Sublime Porte.

    The most famous being Henry Morgenthau Sr. (1913-1916), perhaps now better known for being the father of Henry Morgenthau Jr., father of the “Morgenthau Plan”.

    Morgenthau Sr. was the maternal grandfather of the historian Barbara Tuchman (Guns of August).

  127. Moi says:
    @Anon

    Wow. That would be something. I was thinking maybe the shenanigans that established Israel.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  128. @refl

    Thanks but different subject/question.

  129. Anon[859] • Disclaimer says:
    @jsm

    And what makes YOU expert enough to proffer that counter speculation seriously? (Have you any idea at all of the balance of written evidence one way or the other?).

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  130. @jilles dykstra

    It was a real agreement. Why do you think the British attacked Gallipoli? It was to fulfil the promise to Russia. The Russians gave a Quid Pro Quo in the form of allowing Britain a larger occupation zone in Persia.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  131. MBlanc46 says:
    @Charlie Wyoming

    Jews are seen as white and Palestinians are seen as people of color. That probably doesn’t bode well for the Jews.

  132. By contrast, one land I found especially fascinating was China, the world’s most populous country and its oldest continuous civilization, with a tangled modern history of revolutionary upheaval, then suddenly reopened to the West during the Nixon Administration and under Deng’s economic reforms starting to reverse decades of Maoist economic failure.

    Very unambiguously, Mao >> Deng. Of course, the US media will always twist it the other way round. For an explanation, see this: https://www.unz.com/tsaker/book-review-losing-military-supremacy-the-myopia-of-american-strategic-planning-by-andrei-martyanov/#comment-2415952. And https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-trips-but-hes-right-on-russia-our-ruling-class-is-crazy-remember-the-romanovs/#comment-2429247.

    I used to believe the mainstream American narrative on this too, until I realized that the faster economic growth starting from the reforms had more to do with China’s finally being able to trade with the US (at its core more a product of what happened later on in Mao’s era than what Deng and his supporters did) than with the accompanying change in economic policy. I came to the conclusion that China in 1970 had more or less secured herself to the extent that establishing relations with the US became a possibility. With the industrial and modern foundation already developed and integration into the wider international community, rapid economic growth became more or less inevitable. One can think of China in Mao’s years as having developed a proven to work operating system and programming language in bootstrap mode, on top of which the application software that delivered more immediate and tangible returns were built as part of “economic reform.” Many knowledgeable people in China feel the same; that those reformists who returned to power afterwards were actually less competent leaders taking undue credit by building on the work of others.

    With the Chinese people clearly having such tremendous inherent talent and their potential already demonstrated on a much smaller scale in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore, I believed there was an excellent chance that Deng’s reforms would unleash enormous economic growth, and sure enough, that was exactly what happened. In the late 1970s, China was poorer than Haiti, but I always told my friends that it might come to dominate the world economically within a couple of generations, and although most of them were initially quite skeptical of such an outrageous claim, every few years they became a little less so. The Economist had long been my favorite magazine, and in 1986 they published an especially long letter of mine emphasizing the tremendous rising potential of China and urging them to expand their coverage with a new Asia Section; the following year, they did exactly that.

    I think the comparison between China and Haiti in the late 70s is patently ridiculous, for obvious reasons. Many in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Singapore look down on mainland Chinese for being much poorer and for being 共匪. The reality is that it’s like comparing ordinary engineers in the dominant company to those who started and built an inferior but for the most part working alternative. And now, that alternative China created is starting to become serious competition to the long established market standard.

    These days I feel tremendous humiliation for having spent most of my life being so totally wrong about so many things for so long, and I cling to China as a very welcome exception. I can’t think of a single development during the last forty years that I wouldn’t have generally expected back in the late 1970s, with the only surprise having been the total lack of surprises. About the only “revision” I’ve had to make in my historical framework is that I’d always casually accepted the ubiquitous claim that Mao’s disastrous Great Leap Forward of 1959-61 had caused 35 million or more deaths, but I’ve recently encountered some serious doubts, suggesting that such a total could be considerably exaggerated, and today I might admit the possibility that only 15 million or fewer had died.

    Wow, what exactly did you expect back in the late 1970s for the next forty years? More or less what’s happening now? And that was considered extremely farfetched at the time? The more I look at it, the more I realize that China in the late 1970s was in essence not anywhere near as bad as it might have appeared on the surface. There was already, for instance, the expertise to develop not great but passable nuclear submarines, which Andrei Martyanov characterized in his book as “the most complex machinery in human history.” I also realized that that estimate of 35 million was made by comparing to the death and birth rate of 1958 (so number of excess deaths plus number of fewer births relative to 1958 baseline). It’s laughable to label a “dictator” one does not like as a “mass murderer” by comparing himself to himself in population statistics. The overall trend was that during his 25 years, the population of China went from 475 million to 900+ million, hardly what one would expect from a genocidal state.

    Now that China is so much more powerful and credible internationally, more people will discredit what those silly and politically motivated American scholars have put in their history books for the masses.

    I’m a pretty exceptional and extreme guy (as are you Ron), so I naturally prefer those who dare to use more extreme and unorthodox approaches. I like revolutionaries who transform weird into normal, be they in science, be they in politics. Because the most consequential to our civilization happens at the extremes. Because there’s so much more of a story to tell. Mediocrity and conformism is the default, and more people ought to try radical (but appropriated hedged) methods if societal advancement is to be optimized for. Like, what Stalin did, in pioneering the planned economy, was truly revolutionary and met with fierce opposition from the outside world, but it proved to be a miraculous success. Mao replicated it successfully in the Chinese context to modernize China. I think Mao was a genius poet and political thinker and leader and a true revolutionary at heart. His brothers and sons were all killed for “revolutionary” activities. Nearing the last decade of his life, he wasn’t about leaving behind wealth and power to heirs of blood like the typical dictator/magnate, as he had few real ones. Most likely, he cared much more about his legacy and what would happen to China afterwards. He distrusted those people under him running things, Deng included, who were scrambling to ensure the best position for themselves and their children after he died. So he launched the Cultural Revolution, using popular uprising to instigate a political reshuffle at the top. Of course, the people who made it to the top who ran things during his last decade were very questionable. He may well have been quite displeased with the result. Nonetheless, he probably felt this political balancing would be the healthiest choice for his legacy, for the political situation afterwards. The people he brought down came back to power after he died, and I’m sure many of them secretly resented him but were too scared to say anything. So he succeeded, unlike Stalin, in not getting posthumously denounced. And China is still thriving forty years after his death, though maybe not as much as he would have hoped.

    As I write this, I am reminded of Mao’s poetic quote: 人间正道是沧桑, which means literally “the correct course for the human world is for seas to turn into mulberry fields.”

    • Replies: @Parfois
  133. bjdubbs says:

    Re Nixon and the problems of hiding the ethnic dimension of red-baiting, it was always puzzling why conservatives focused so much on “Whitaker Chambers and Alger Hiss” because the story itself seemed pretty inconsequential and not really worth the monumental status it seemed to possess for conservatives. Now it makes sense if Hiss served the role of being the respectable, WASP target of redbaiting.

  134. @Colin Wright

    Westerns on TV would have Native Americans burn down everything within sight [and mostly without any logical reason].

    But when you start looking at who’re behind such scenarios [writers, directors, producers], you’ll discover a projection of pogroms [quite often by Jews with an Eastern European background].

    And, yes, I fell for it too.

    The Hollywood Indian – Link to Wikipedia [this being a Wikipedia entry, don't expect to find the full and naked truth]

  135. MarkinPNW says:
    @silviosilver

    Wasn’t “Fordism” the official state religion in Huxley’s “Brave New World”, with the symbol of the capitol T in honor of the Ford Model T automobile replacing the Christian Cross (resembling the lower case t) as the primary religious symbol?

  136. @Charles Pewitt

    Not a fact that “Jews have rarely displayed any gratitude….”. In the Anglophone countries many of the great charitable gifts, to art galleries/ museums, to medical research and hospitals, to musical events and institutions and other objects of charity are from Jews.

    Done anonymously? Probably not? “Displayed”? Yes.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    , @Weaver1
  137. @for-the-record

    Most likely you’ve already read this book, but I’ll add a link to it for those who haven’t:

    “George Bush : the unauthorized biography” – Link to Archive.org

    Indeed, what a tangled web they’ve woven and how we’re ff-ing stuck in it…

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  138. Mr. Unz,

    The intellectually curious know the problem of Jewish, power, influence , propaganda, and subversion. Enlightenment has tremendous value, but the paramount question is how do we stop international Jewish power. The combination of ethnic unity, wealth, media manipulation, high IQ and institutional infiltration creates a formidable deadly opponent. This has been going since the ancient world.

    JQ has dire consequences for the very survival of western civilization particularly with mass demographically swamping immigration policies.

    What will happen to Jews when the Occident becomes minority majority? Jews will be perceived as just any other white person by minority groups, many of which harbor hatred against Jews. There will be a Chinese world hegemony when the west falls, which will not be good for Jews. The elite Jews need to wake up. Destroying the goyim is not good for them!

    • Agree: gmachine1729
    • Replies: @gmachine1729
  139. Anon[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Remember that Wilson was blackmailed into WW1 by Sam Untermeyer Zionist and big shareholder in Standard Oil

    He was also the kind of do gooder Puritan who causes so many problems in the world

  140. @Jon Halpenny

    Isn’t Gallipoli – and the original attempt to send warships through the Bosporus – explicable as
    1. An attempt to knock a German ally out of the war
    2. Open an ice free supply route to Russia (and maybe an export route for Russian grain?)?

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
    , @refl
    , @anon
    , @Paw
  141. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Whoa, that puts the stories about 1918 in a very different light.

    How so? I can’t tell if that is sarcasm.

    What was the tone of the Times article?

    • Replies: @Sean
  142. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    How do you know they were deliberately used as tokens?

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  143. Bill says:
    @ploni almoni

    The princes supported [Luther] because he said that the peasants deserved to treated like animals.

    Well, the fact that he gave them cover to steal all the Church’s stuff helped, too.

  144. Bill says:
    @CornCod1

    In the eighties I used to gently dismiss the theories of my Bircher friends (gently because they were nice people). Now I know that most of them were right on the money.

    Birchers were quite philo-semitic.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  145. Cyrano says:

    If anybody ever benefited from the Bolshevik revolution – it was the workers in the west, primarily US.

    The October revolution forced the capitalists to make concessions to the working class that they wouldn’t have otherwise made simply out of their good natured kind hearts.

    If the Jews were so diabolical to unleash the Bolshevik revolution because of sinister motives only, how come that they didn’t predict that it’s going to hurt their profit margins in the US – via increased wages and benefits that they were forced to pay in order to keep the working class calm – out of fear that the Bolshevik revolution might have given them some ideas about conducting feasibility study of staging a copycat revolution.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  146. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    I’d be interested in a review of the history of pogroms in Eastern Europe, perhaps combined with Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  147. Bill says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Yeah, Ron is great, but his writing is undisciplined.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  148. @jilles dykstra

    If actually said it counts for some fraction of one per cent of the needed evidence. That is true, in particular, because it suggests no knowledge of Balfour the man. I recall a vignette (here’s another tiny fractional piece of evidence) from an essay by Leonard Woolf (Virginia Woolf’s v clever husband) in an essay where he describes Balfour in committee in 1915 receiving a note, pausing for just a moment, then continuing “as I was saying, in the matter of an additional farthing….”. The note told him of the sinking of the Lusitania. At least my informants of what was said on the occasion of news being received of, first, the invasion of the Soviet Union and, second, Pearl Harbour, reported “we’ve won the war” as the enthusiastic expression on both occasions.

    I commend resurrection of Leonard Woolf’s writings as a pleasure awaiting Ron and like minded fossickers for small nuggets (with hopes of greater ones).

  149. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Destabilize might not be quite the word for it. Pulverize and dilute the various indigenous national identities? Yes.

    One other related maneuver that is underway is that the Jews are giving Muslims territory in Europe and the United States in exchange for the Jews’ having taken Palestine. It’s a form of pacification, of letting the pressure out. It distracts the Muslims with the fruits of capitalism and other material wealth and political power (in Europe and US). It also clears potentially resistant young men out of Israel’s neighborhood. I suppose one could also view it as payment of compensatory damages.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  150. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @JackOH

    Well put, deserved praise of Ron.

    • Replies: @JackOH
  151. Allan says:
    @Rurik

    Let he who is without hypocrisy cast the first damn.

    It’s by the way that I agree with your summary of the bust out phase of the life of the crime organization established through the supposedly “Russian Revolution”:

    Echoes of the (((“Russian”))) oligarchs that looted the wealth and resources of the Russian people following the generations of Jewish Bolshevik genocide and slavery of the Russian people.

    So, are not reparations owed to Russians? If so, they must not be financed by further extractions from the Germans, who appear to be the victims of a set up for a holocaust (Dresden, etc.) after a suitable pretext had been identified by the same cabal, more or less, who financed and plotted the 1905 & 1917 insurrections in Russia. Adequate compensation must include unconditional surrender of any and all ownership and control over the many “Holocaust” museums that have been foisted upon us in order to cripple us with guilt and to distract us from another painful pravda about Jewish history.

    The painful truth about the Holocaust is basically just this: Any holocaust of Jews in Europe during the 1940′s can be explained correctly as an own goal brought about by compassionate activists such as Hugo Preuß. He and others labored for generations to plunge Europe into chaos again and again and now again with the movement to abolish border controls and to relocate to Europe tens of millions of Muhammadists, subsaharans Africans, and other aliens.

    • Agree: Rurik
  152. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Winnetou1889

    The same fight is actually going on today in a different form.

    What’s the fight today? What form has it taken? Thanks for explaining.

    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
  153. Sparkon says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I must add that, though WWI was set up by GB, France and the tsar, I never found evidence that jews were involved in the conspiracy.

    The evidence is there already by 1903 in Zionist co-founder Max Nordau’s stirring speech that year to Zionists in Paris:

    Litman Rosenthal:

    “About a month later [~Sept. 1903] I went on a business trip to France. On my way to Lyons I stopped in Paris, and there I visited, as usual, our Zionist friends. One of them told me that this very same evening Dr. Nordau was scheduled to speak about the Sixth Congress”
    [...]
    “When we reached the hall in the evening we found it filled to overflowing and all were waiting impatiently for the great master, Nordau, who, on entering, received a tremendous ovation. But Nordau, without paying heed to the applause showered upon him, began his speech immediately, and said:”

    ‘You all came here with a question burning in your hearts and trembling on your lips, and the question is, indeed, a great one, and of vital importance. I am willing to answer it. What you want to ask is: How could I—I who was one of those who formulated the Basle program—how could I dare to speak in favor of the English proposition concerning Uganda, how could Herzl as well as I betray our ideal of Palestine…’

    “The whole assembly was under the spell of Nordau’s beautiful, truly poetic and exalted diction, and his exquisite, musical French delighted the hearers with an almost sensual pleasure. For a few seconds the speaker paused, and the public, absolutely intoxicated by his splendid oratory, applauded frantically. But soon Nordau asked for silence and continued”:

    ‘Now this great progressive world power, England, has after the pogroms of Kishineff, in token of her sympathy with our poor people, offered through the Zionist Congress the autonomous colony of Uganda to the Jewish nation. Of course, Uganda is in Africa, and Africa is not Zion and never will be Zion.’
    [...]
    ‘…let me tell you the following words as if I were showing you the rungs of a ladder leading upward and upward: Herzl, The Zionist Congress, the English Uganda proposition, the future world war, the peace conference where with the help of England a free and Jewish Palestine will be created.’

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_International_Jew/Volume_1/Chapter_14

  154. Them Guys says:
    @Johnnie Walker Read

    Yes, I found that book as a free read online and read it. It is amazing how purely evil and so filled with hatred those jewish Bolshevik torturers and mass murderers actually were/are.

    Every description in that book of the many, many ways jews invented for use as a torture reminds one of Apache Indians of the 1800′s era. There is simply No method of torture or murderous deaths, them bolshie jews will not do. One thing certain is, whoever reads that book better have a strong stomach, and even the strongest of men will be found wiping a few eye tears away now and then, since the abject brutality and totally Inhuman tortures gleefully done border on being unspeakable.

    And with No other valid reason to be found, other than a true explaination of how, be it Talmudic religion, or other dna traits, or some form insanity present within jewry in general, folks better trained medically than me can debate…But the best reasons when all is added up is simply jews are jews and its Bad for all non jews period. Far too many historical evidences and eras seem to validate that regardless of which nation jews choose to infiltrate in large numbers, so that it then becomes the Next New Host Nation of 1/2 of more of international worldwide jewry. Very evil and immoral and unethical situations develop and develop to the proverbial, Inth-degree every damn time.

    And to date about the only remedy has been for every host nation to give jewry the Big Boot Out.

    At least now, todays usa host nation, none can claim jews still have zero places to call home eh.

    Israel’s big enough to fit them all within it. And you can bet all you own, and win the bet, if you bet that within two seconds flat of usa jewry finds out of a plan to get jewry out of America. Most American dwelling jews will screech and squak and holler as if a swine pig stuck with a dagger knife.

    All of their constant talk of how jews so so love israel, how they Own it, and even most every athiest jew when asked “Why so, a right to return eh jewboy”? Those athiests with out skipping a beat, will answer back…”Oh thats due to G-d (god) Gave land of israel to Us jews, see”!…Indeed that same god they reject and refuse to believe even exists, somehow Gave jews lands in palestine like a real estate agent at centruy-21 real estate co. eh. And soon as they get wind of an exit agenda, a thousand excuses to why cannot go live in israel shall surface and do so fast. Benjamin Franklin, founding father, said it best. They are Paristies and like Vampires a jew can’t live off another vampire. Nor a flea live off of another flea…They always require a Host Body aka Nation to keep 1/2 of jewry in so to provide for the other 1/2 thru too many corrput ways and means to list.

    Yet no other method of fixing a host nation works. How long has america left before even that option wont work. It sure be real swell if for a change jewry as a whole would finally just act like Mr. Ron Unz, and be willing to admit to facts and truths without any baggage of talmudic fantasy and jewy jewish fables eh…I wont hold my breath for such, and expect that unless jews are who make first moves to fix what they fucked up, it will not end good for anyone involved.

    Cannot help but wonder at times what if?…What If, about 800 or so years ago when some Pope and european Kings agreed to hunt down and find and Burn every talmud scrolls or copies etc to be found…What if they succeded and located every single one, by now 800 yrs later maybe jewry would have assimilated much better and none of this would be reality.

    However for now the real main reality is Yes usa Is latest Host nation, Yes many maybe most jews within usa are grand kids of orig russian bolsheviks, and so far many of them have shown their true colors and leave no secret that america is Next up to play role russian whites and christians suffered so badly under….Read that book, see for yourself what a real fully Depraved and pure evil jewish mind can conjur up when it comes to vicious unspeakable tortures, and mass murderous venomous hatred for the “other” aka all non jews…HINT: Forget MSM claims of how bad a torture Water Boarding is!..Yes it too sounds not too nice to experience, but compared to 1917 and onwards Russia and jewsih invented methods of tortures and mass deaths, no comparison at all.

    Many jews and their Shabboz goy defenders will likely claim such an honest book need be Banned due to it creates more jew haters…Well maybe so eh…But maybe also after you read of those vile evil methods, maybe some jews deserve being hated so badly. That alone should cause naysayer jews and shabboz goys to divert atten To jews and seek a rapid and lasting jew-fix, before too many more folks read the book perhaps.

  155. @ploni almoni

    “competing product” seems excessively loose language. How many conversions to Judaism were there in German speaking polities between 1400 and 1600? Indeed were there any attempts being made to proselytize for Judaism?

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  156. David says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    I think Mr Unz should add a feature whereby one can highlight a phrase, right click, and select “report usage” or “syntax” or something like that.

  157. @Wizard of Oz

    Both of the reasons you give are valid in their own right. But it is a fact that the British had given an assurance to hand Constantinople over to the Russians shortly before they began the Gallipoli Campaign. If the campaign had succeeded Russia would have got Constantinople and the Straits.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  158. @Daniel Rich

    Thanks, I haven’t read it. The problem is that just with this thread I’ve come up with a reading list that will keep me fully occupied for the next year or so . . .

  159. refl says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    According to the site I mentioned above (firstworldwarhiddenhistory), the British attacked Gallipoli to keep Russia in the war until the coming collapse of Germany and Russia – hard to swallow but the authors make quite a compelling case. I do not want to unnerve anyone but the site by these two Scots is certainly worth a mention on tis forum.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Bukowski
  160. Che Guava says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Aah, the myth of etternal Japan.

    In the fifth century, the nobility was 60% Korean, 20% Chinese, and 20% native.

    After that brief period, thie Shogunates were in power.

    The Mongol invasion was, indeed, unsuccessful, but enough landed and wrought havoc in Kyushu, the Kamakura Shogunate fell as a result.

    That it never happened (they were all blown away by divine winds), is simply a confection for the (unfortunately, still) occupying Americans.

    In southern Kyushu, ynu can still see populations of Mongolian ponies, and markers of the sites of landings and battles.

    One reason the right hates the current emperor is that he once acknowledged his Korean ancestry.

  161. @Dan Hayes

    Nah. It will be: How the Russians are really to blame for the Bolshevik Revolution.

    The Russians seem to be the explanation for everything these days.

  162. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous[199]:

    I believe that Freud explicitly conveyed to Jung that he was to be used to negate the pervading Jewish public image of psychoanalysis. Jung certainly thought that he was being used as a token.

    The “eminent computer scientist” certainly thought (and resented) that he was used as a token.

  163. Dan Hayes says:
    @Bill

    Bill:

    What you mistakenly term “undisciplined” is Ron serving up myriad topics for discussion.

    • Replies: @Bill
  164. Mike P says:
    @CanSpeccy

    How about you do that for him? Should not be to hard to build a web proxy that gives a Strunkian cleansing to everything you read online. You could get rich!

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  165. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    You’re always trying to bring facts into the discussion. Why is that?

    • Replies: @German_reader
  166. @Anarcho-Supremacist

    People who say things like “[X] has been debunked” without giving any evidence of the debunking of [X], debunk themselves.

    It takes about ten seconds to buttress a claim of ‘debunking’ by typing in a reference to the work that supposedly does the debunking.

    I know this isn’t a graduate seminar or a think-tank tea-room, but given Unz’s preparedness to disclose his previous naïveté (and the process by which the scales fell from his eyes), it would be good form to make counter-arguments rather than what amounts to a content-free tweet.

    Give Unz some credit: he has the training to discriminate between sources, and seems genuinely committed to figuring out what things are true and what are not. To assert that his process is retarded (which is what you’re doing by dismissing a source so flippantly), without any obligation to buttress your assertion, makes you immediately suspect.

    • Agree: James N. Kennett
  167. mcohen says:

    The south african communist party had several jewish leaders such as ruth first, joe slovo,bram fischer,and many others.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Communist_Party

    Prominent members of the Central Committee of the SACP

    Jeremy Cronin
    Ruth First
    Bram Fischer
    Chris Hani
    Ronnie Kasrils
    Mac Maharaj
    Nelson Mandela
    Govan Mbeki
    Thabo Mbeki
    Raymond Mhlaba
    Joe Slovo
    Yusuf Dadoo

    Jews were involved in the fight against apartheid from the begining and several went on trial with nelson mandela.denis goldberg,lionel bernstein,james kantor.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivonia_Trial

    Interestingly todays south african leadership is anti israel and opposes the jewish struggle for liberation and the fight for a country of its own.
    They even go as far as to accuse israel of apartheid.

    A great song from an old south african band

    It’s a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
    You taught me all I know and I’ll never look back
    It’s a very strange world and I thank you, Master Jack

    You took a colored ribbon from out of the sky
    And taught me how to use it as the years went by
    To tie up all your problems and make them look neat
    And then to sell them to the people in the street

    It’s a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
    You taught me all I know and I’ll never look back
    It’s a very strange world and I thank you, Master Jack

    I saw right through the way you started teachin’ me now
    So some day soon you could get to use me somehow
    I thank you very much and though you’ve been very kind
    But I’d better move along before you change my mind

    It’s a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
    You know how I feel as if I’ll never come back
    It’s a very strange world and I thank you, Master Jack

    You taught me all the things the way you’d like them to be
    But I’d like to see if other people agree
    It’s all very interesting the way you disguise
    But I’d like to see the world through my own eyes

    It’s a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
    No hard feelin’s if I never come back
    You’re a very strange man and I thank you, Master Jack

    You’re a very strange man and I thank you, Master Jack
    You’re a very strange man and I thank you, Master Jack

    Songwriters: David Marks

    Master Jack lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  168. @Heros

    This Pravda article was once again a frustrating read because it once again tries to dance around difficult issues while minimizing offense to jews.

    When presenting controversial material, IMHO it is best to minimize offense to everyone, so that the material can speak for itself. Do not give one’s opponents an excuse to label the article as anti-semitic or anti anything else. Do not give them an excuse to avoid thinking about the subject matter. Present the facts.

    I think the American Pravda series strikes the right tone, and each article surprises me with vital historical information that has been memory-holed.

    • Replies: @Heros
  169. @Scipio Africanus

    I don’t think the West will fall, but it will certainly weaken relative to China and East Asia at large. I feel like the Chinese are the most able to see through Jewish shenanigans and also most politically able to openly talk about it. There is a benefit from being half isolated from Western culture. It’s perfectly okay in China to be like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Rui#Controversy. This is coming from the host of the most prominent English news show of CCTV, China’s virtual TV monopoly. Chinese businessmen can openly say that Jews are the types to do whatever they can to get ahead, scruples be damned. I used to much admire, to a great extent blindly, Jewish achievement, especially in science. I still do to a great extent. But now I think they are overrated, especially in terms of raw ability. It’s the combination of higher raw ability and being a privileged minority group within elite Western culture. Nowadays, in the US it’s the East Asian kids winning the 100% meritocratic contests at the high school level, where there is basically zero, human promotion subjective factor. Moreover, from the 40s on, the Japanese more or less held their own vis-a-vis the Jews in theoretical physics. Yukawa, Tomonaga, Nambu, Maskawa, Kobayashi all won Nobel, and their work arguably exceeded that of the typical physics theory Nobel, as there was still some bias in the committee, against Soviets, against Japanese. The more mathematical and theoretical and loaded on individual brilliance the field, the better East Asians have done. My non-Jewish white friend who placed at the top in elite math contests shocked me by suggesting that in terms of biological intelligence, East Asians may actually be higher than Jews are.

  170. @Cyrano

    ‘…If anybody ever benefited from the Bolshevik revolution – it was the workers in the west, primarily US.

    The October revolution forced the capitalists to make concessions to the working class that they wouldn’t have otherwise made simply out of their good natured kind hearts…’

    I don’t think so. When opportunity afforded, capitalists would be just has hard-hearted and exploitative as ever: see Union Carbide knowingly virtually sentencing workers desperate for employment to death by having them drill a tunnel through dry silica at the height of the Great Depression.

    On the other hand, long-term, the restriction on immigration drove wages up; Archie Bunker was able to afford his own house and a stay-at-home wife on a forklift driver’s salary, and that wasn’t a TV fantasy. By 1970, it was a reality — and American workers were hardly vulnerable to Communist propaganda.

    But opening up the floodgates to immigration did away with that. Now we’re back to masses of desperate, suitably docile workers.

    It’s immigration, not fear of communism. Reduce the supply of labor; conditions for the working man improve. Increase the supply of labor; they decline. This has been true since at least the Enclosure movement.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  171. @Wizard of Oz

    Why do you think that naming a wing after oneself in a museum or university or hospital, is an expression of ‘gratitude‘? It’s an expression of economic power, and is self-serving.

    “Charity vampires” are a thing: they’re the people who draw a $500k/yr salary, and first-class travel and accom, from the proceeds of earnest-but-naïve ‘chuggers’ who collect loose change from earnest-but-naïve citizens.

    The notion that $2500-a-plate (and upwards) ‘charity dinners/galas/events’ exist to raise money for ‘charity’, is marketing aimed at rubes. Such events exist in order for people to rub shoulders with each other, in tax-deductible ways that specifically exclude hoi polloi (because the price of entry is far too high).

    The only thing more likely to fund the lives of an economic vampire than a self-styled ‘charity’, is a self-styled ‘foundation’.

    (Note – this is all completely independent of the ethnocultural background of the vampire in question: Gentile, Joo, and Musselman too… there are parasitic sociopaths in all human societies, and they find the easiest grifts – ‘charity’ and politics chief among them).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Wizard of Oz
  172. @iffen

    Claiming that a New York banker financed communist revolutionaries seems rather implausible to me…all the more so at a time when Czarism had already been overthrown and legal discrimination against bourgeois Jews like Schiff had just been removed by the new liberal government in Russia.
    The situation in 1917 was very unlike that in 1904/05, and supporting the Bolsheviks would have been much more extreme than supporting Japan (which was then a British ally; public opinion in the US and Britian had been pro-Japan during the Russo-Japanese war).
    I can’t think of any plausible reason why Schiff would have supported the Bolsheviks (apart from completely irrational hatred of Russia…or did he want to support his old home country Germany in WW1 and help Russia knock out of the war?). If he had wanted to make Russia ripe for exploitation by Jewish finance as Unz seems to insinuate with his vague hints about “Jewish exploitation”, there surely would have been more fitting ways than supporting communist revolution.
    But yes, I suppose expecting an answer to those questions here is probably futile.

  173. jsm says:
    @jsm

    I simply asked a question. I didn’t MAKE any assertions to knowing what goes on in jews’ minds. YOU did.
    So, what make YOU an expert?

    Stop trying to deflect. That’s a jewy thing to do. If you have reason to know, then present it. If you don’t and you’re pulling stuff outta yer ass, then own up to.

  174. @German_reader

    Money. They paid him back plus.

  175. Frankie P says:
    @Verymuchalive

    The fundamental difference that you are ignoring is that although China was conquered, its strength as a true civilizational state subsumed the conquerers, who acquiesed and became Chinese culturally.
    Ron is absolutely correct: China is the world’s oldest continuous civilization. Perhaps the greatest weakness in the attitudes and policies of the west towards China is viewing China as a nation state instead of as a civilizational state.

  176. Seraphim says:
    @Anonymous

    Before one reads the ‘damn thing’ I recommend to peruse a site less frequented:

    “Neither Aryan Nor Jew This site is for serious researchers of the “higher tribalism” (Aryanism, Zionism, Nihonism etc), Globalization and World [email protected] http://mailstar.net/index.html.

    It covers all the topics in discussion here. The author is in correspondence with Israel Shamir.
    Subject-indexes:
    “Higher Tribalism” after the demise of the Nation-State
    Aryanism (European Tribalism) & Western Civilization
    Globalization & World Government
    Zionism (Jewish Tribalism) And/Or Communism
    Nihonism (Japanese Tribalism) & Asian Civilization
    Australiana
    especially ‘The Protocols of Zion [email protected]://mailstar.net/toolkit.html for an extensive discussion about the authenticity.

  177. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    What if his motive was to weaken the Russian people?

  178. John King says:

    Some people on this list will be familiar with the name of Benjamin Freedman and his 1961 speech at the Willard Hotel on youtube, where he talks about the origins of the Balfour Declaration.

    One of the things that he mentions is that he was one of the Jewish delegates to the Paris Peace Talks, where Palestine was handed over to the British and the Jews staked their claim, armed with the letter from Balfour to Rothschild. In part, this is how he reassures his audience that he knows what he is talking about.

    If you pop over to Wikipedia, you can read about Freedman here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_H._Freedman

    However, you will note that the first 35 years of his life are missing, with discussion of his activities only beginning in 1925, with his partnership in a dermatological institute and the Woodbury Soap Company.

    Since so much turns on this point, I am curious whether anyone can definitively answer the question: Was Benjamin Freedman a member of the Jewish delegation to the Paris Peace Talks?

  179. @Wizard of Oz

    Lutheranism and Judaism are both the same philosophic0-theological system. They are both materialist Dualisms. The devils are all nasty to each other because it is in their nature, aren’t they?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  180. @Charlie Wyoming

    Landowners throughout history have been pogromed as well, oftentimes alongside the Jews who were their tax farmers, estate managers etc.

    Isn’t it the evidence of Anti-Landownerism?

    • Replies: @Anon
  181. jsm says:

    Ron, my heartfelt thank you for being one Jew who IS doing what us Gentiles have begged for for so long:

    Explaining to your own ethnicity why the Jews need to clean up their act.

    We’ve tried. They won’t listen to us. Us, they mock, they call us insane, “anti-Semites” who’ve gone nutso, claiming we’re just making up bizarre stories. Thank you, thank you, for doing it. They might LISTEN to you!

    Ron, continue to tell them, knock it off with the anti-White propaganda, the pushing for mass immigration of hostile non-Whites, and the economy manipulating.

    Keep telling American Jews to stop themselves, before we White Americans of Christian Heritage are forced to take care of the Jewish Question ourselves — for the umpity-umphth- time. We don’t wanna “go there” — and neither do the American Jews want us to, I should think.

    Tell them, stop it all now, clean up the mess you’ve made, and if you do, it’s likely we can probably come to a modus vivendi without bloodshed or expulsion.

    Ron, tell them, if they DON’T do it now, if they leave it to us, it’s gonna end badly –just like every time prior.

    Keep telling them, Ron. Head off what’s coming!!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @mcohen
  182. Ron Unz says:
    @CanSpeccy

    For God’s sake read Strunk and White, or if you have, follow Strunk’s rule: “eliminate unnecessary words”: all those damn intensifiers — very, actually, entirely, somewhat, rather importantly, extremely, considerably, exactly, etc.

    Sure, that’s an extremely valid criticism. But an even stronger one would be the fact that the entire first section dealing with China has absolutely no connection to the topic of the article. Furthermore, the beginning of the second section, mostly dealing with Russian-German relations, is also largely irrelevant.

    However, there’s a reason, whether right or wrong, for all three of those things.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @CanSpeccy
    , @Mike P
    , @Anon
  183. Svigor says:

    One week after the Evil Judaism article we get an article about the Jewish Bolsheviks!

    Fucking Based! Ron Unz for Fuhrer!

    Okay, sorry, I’ll stop now.

    (I just started listening to the Merchant Minute guy. Love that dude.)

    • Replies: @Wally
  184. Ron Unz says:
    @German_reader

    I can’t think of any plausible reason why Schiff would have supported the Bolsheviks (apart from completely irrational hatred of Russia…or did he want to support his old home country Germany in WW1 and help Russia knock out of the war?). If he had wanted to make Russia ripe for exploitation by Jewish finance as Unz seems to insinuate with his vague hints about “Jewish exploitation”, there surely would have been more fitting ways than supporting communist revolution.

    Well, I did provide the sources that made those specific claims, and included their own explanations. The editor of the Times of London, one of the leading international journalists of his era, specifically says that Schiff and the other Jewish bankers backed the Jewish Bolsheviks so that they could exploit Russia, and US Military Intelligence said the same thing, while Schiff’s grandson described the financial commitment decades later.

    What do I know?— I wasn’t there! But if all those seemingly credible contemporary sources said it, then maybe it’s actually true. How do any of us know anything about the world? Just read the sources I provided and decide for yourself.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @utu
  185. I wonder if the computer scientist mentioned in the article is John McCarthy, the AI pioneer, and a Stanford Professor.

    I’ve never known that he was Jewish.

  186. Ron Unz says:

    Incidentally, I just came across a very interesting point relating both to the topic of this article and also my previous one. An eminent American historian noted that Britain’s very famous Jewish-born Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli always greatly emphasized racial issues, and given his enormous prominence, may have been the single most influential 19th century advocate of that ideological perspective.

    Furthermore, in one of his most famous novels, he’d apparently promoted the existence of a vast and secret international organization of powerful Jews bent on dominating the world.

    Given that Disraeli was at the height of his political influence right around the time the Protocols was written, I can’t think of a more plausible inspiration for that document.

  187. @Ron Unz

    The editor of the Times of London, one of the leading international journalists of his era, specifically says that Schiff and the other Jewish bankers backed the Jewish Bolsheviks

    I looked Wickham-Steed’s memoirs up on the archive.org page you linked to. There are only three mentions of Jacob Schiff, and Wickham-Steed doesn’t give any sources, so those claims are hard to evaluate. As far as I can tell, it also isn’t about financial support for the Bolsheviks, but about diplomatic relations/recognition of the Bolsheviks.

    Schiff’s grandson described the financial commitment decades later.

    I tried to look up this New York Journal-American, but it doesn’t seem to be digitized anywhere and only available on microfilm, so again, hard to evaluate.
    I’m not saying it’s impossible Jacob Schiff played some role regarding the Russian revolution(s), but the material presented here is pretty meagre. More research would be needed.

  188. Sparkon says:
    @Bill

    Birchers were quite philo-semitic.

    Quite right.

    In 1966, Prof Revilo Oliver (now deceased), who was co-founder (with eleven others) of the Birch Society and Associate Editor of its major organ, American Opinion, discovered that Robert Welch, the JBS’s principal founder, was controlled by Jews, the purpose of said control being to harmlessly absorb and deflect the energy and money of patriotic Americans who wished to fight the ‘international communist conspiracy’, while leaving unmolested the Jewish-led conspiracy against America and Western civilization.

    Introductory note:
    The John Birch Society — Exposed!
    By John “Birdman” Bryant

    http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/NetLoss/NetLoss-Oliver.html

    I found Birdman’s article from a link provided by David Martin “DC Dave” in his article
    Is the Birch Society a Zionist Front?

  189. Anon[846] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well I wish you to keep using as many adverbs, inte sifiers, and whatever you want to hse in your writing.

  190. Wally says:
    @Svigor

    So then, how do you explain the fact that Jews have been pushing their ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1823?
    And yes, you should stop now, you’re making a fool of yourself. http://www.codoh.com

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    • Replies: @Svigor
  191. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    Come on GR, just get with the narrative. These questions and facts just muck it up.

  192. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Good point. That said, Jewish interest in politics (managing the livestock of host populations) is pronounced.

  193. Tim too says:

    “The extent to which established historical facts can appear or disappear from the world should certainly force all of us to become very cautious in believing anything we read in our standard textbooks, let alone what we absorb from our more transient electronic media.”

    Dr. Unz!, this is a caption for your site.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  194. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @siberiancat

    Landowners throughout history have been pogromed as well, oftentimes alongside the Jews who were their tax farmers, estate managers etc.

    Do you have a citation or at least some examples to mention?

  195. @German_reader

    And anyway, I don’t know why one should attribute much credibility to this Wickham-Steed character. He was just a journalist, and journalists mostly aren’t reliable (something this American Pravda series acknowledges regarding contemporary journalism).
    He also seems to have been intensely Germanophobic, so something must have been deeply wrong with his judgement anyway.

    • Replies: @iffen
  196. iffen says:
    @German_reader

    He was just a journalist, and journalists mostly aren’t reliable (something this American Pravda series acknowledges regarding contemporary journalism).

    But if you have the decoder ring, you can read the Jew York Times every day for years and “know” which writers to trust.

  197. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @jsm

    I’m sorry but this situation won’t be solved amicably. It can’t.

    Learn your history and try to not disappoint your ancestors (clue: it’s a river of blood and that’s the only reason you were born).

    Spreading the truth is absolutely crucial now but that, alone, won’t fix the problem.

  198. Zimriel says:

    ‘The Protocols’ is a lie. A czarist plagiary of Maurice Joly’s (excellent) broadside against Napoleon III. Frankly I am amazed that you did not know this, Mr Unz; it casts some doubt that you did not know the Dearborn Independent, either.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Svigor
  199. mcohen says:
    @German_reader

    German reader

    More research lol

  200. @Ron Unz

    “An insurrection takes place against tradition and aristocracy, against religion and property. Destruction of the Semitic principle, extirpation of the Jewish religion, whether in the Mosaic or in the Christian form, the natural equality of man and the abrogation of property, are proclaimed by the secret societies who form provisional governments, and men of Jewish race are found at the head of every one of them. The people of God co-operate with atheists; the most skilful accumulators of property ally themselves with communists; the peculiar and chosen race touch the hand of all the scum and low castes of Europe! And all this because they wish to destroy that ungrateful Christendom which owes to them even its name, and whose tyranny they can no longer endure. When the secret societies, in February 1848, surprised Europe, they were themselves surprised by the unexpected opportunity, and so little capable were they of seizing the occasion, that had it not been for the Jews, who of late years unfortunately have been connecting themselves with these unhallowed associations, imbecile as were the governments the uncalled-for outbreak would not have ravaged Europe. But the fiery energy and the teeming resources of the children of Israel maintained for a long time the unnecessary and useless struggle. If the reader throws over the provisional governments of Germany, and Italy, and even of France, formed at that period, he will recognize everywhere the Jewish element.”

    -Benjamin Disraeli, 1852

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  201. renfro says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The Aschberg Diamond—from the Crown Jewels of Russia

    Olof Aschberg clamed he bought the diamond in 1934, when a Russian trade delegation visited Stockholm during that year.
    I seriously doubt he ‘bought’ it….a lot of valuables ‘fell off the truck’ and into the hands of those like Aschberg as the Bolsheviks looted Russia.

    • Replies: @utu
  202. JackOH says:
    @Anonymous

    199, thanks. Credit where it’s due, and Ron is doing a great job. I’ve “sold” Unz Review to a few junior faculty at my local state university, and they’re still talking to me. I’m convinced a good, successful political faction could be founded based on some common themes here, but most folks aren’t ready for that yet.

    BTW-the late Hugh Hefner used to occasionally write something under the heading, “What Kind of Man Reads Playboy?” (Hope my memory isn’t confecting stuff.) I’m not sure if the essays had a strong statistical content, but they were complimentary of the readers, and helped induce a bit of solidarity between readers and the editors and writers. Maybe Ron could consider something similar, although I haven’t a clue how to do it with a Web pub.

  203. @Anonymous

    In its most simplistic description, it’s nationalism vs. globalism. Nationalists want borders and respect of property rights; globalists want no borders, sharing of everything and to pack more people in to sell more widgets to. Nationalists want to build homes; globalists want to build housing. It’s just a different and competing set of values.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  204. @Jon Halpenny

    Talk about no permanent enemies! What would veterans of the Crimean War have said? Given the situation Britain got itself into with the Balfour Declaration and the Mandate one wonders whether Albion Perfide, under pressure, would have found ways if avoiding any such “promise”.

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
  205. @refl

    Well my point 2. goes most of the way but, at this point, I find it difficult to imagine any expectation – as opposed to wishful thinking – of an imminent collapse by both Germany and Russia. By April 1915 Germany had hold of a big slice of France and had inflicted huge defeats on the Russians at ? Tannenberg and ? the Masurian Lakes. Sorry, my memory of events iver 100 years ago is getting patchy.

    • Replies: @refl
  206. Weird Wizard of Oz said: “Indeed were there any attempts being made to proselytize for Judaism?”

    Hi Wiz,

    Fyr, linked below is a September 2013 Veterans Today article by Kevin Barrett.

    Uh…, Did Jewish proselytization of Egypt begin before or after the Camp David Agreement?

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/16/al-sisi-jew/

    (Zigh) Is there anything that the washed-up Wizard knows that he ain’t said?

    • Replies: @Anon
  207. utu says:
    @renfro

    The artwork and jewelry to be stolen was already on the lists with names of buyers before the looting gangs went after museums in Bagdad in 2003 the moment Americans entered Bagdad. I would not be surprised that similar targeted looting to the order was happening in Russia.

    • Replies: @renfro
  208. @Ron Unz

    Given that Dizzie was one of my boyhood heroes after reading André Maurois’ biography of him I thought I remembered his dates as a bit early for the Protocols – first published in 2003. Indeed he died in 1881 but now I commend the Wikipedia article on the Protocols despite its uncompromising branding of them as an anti-Semitic fabrication.

    What is interesting is the characterisation of them as plagiarism upon plagiarism. The train of plagiarisms is given, with links. Whether or not Thorfinnsson’s quote is genuine it seems reasonable to put Disraeli, especially as novelist, into a well known mystery thriller tradition of the times. The Sherlock Holmes stories and John Buchan’s “39 Steps”, Erskine Childers’ “The Riddle of the Sands” etc aren’t too far away in some aspects. Just add a twist of anti-Semitism to flavour the sinister foreigners theme.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Anon
  209. @Thorfinnsson

    Not implausible but can you firm up the source to somewhere 100 per cent trustworthy?

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  210. What has always confused me is why the US-ZOG government, Wall st bankers use the CIA to go into all of the Socialist/Communist countries in Latin America to overthrow them. All the mass murder and brutal torture that takes place against dissidents in these coups are very similar to what I read about the Bolshevik rev. Seems like its the same players.
    If the same Bankers and their enforcers the CIA supported/funded the Commie Bolshevik Rev., why do they fight so hard against supposedly Commie/Socialist govts in Latin America, Vietnam too I guess. Seems that it really isn’t about the system itself, but about control.

    One thing that crosses my mind is maybe the Bolshevik rev. was basically like the Wall St./CIA adventures in Latin America, the death squads, sounds a lot like what happend in the Bolshevik Rev.
    Even the Syria war seems similar, it isn’t a civil war like we hear from the MSM, its US/Saudi/Israeli backed mercenaries from foreign countries.
    So were the Bolsheviks really Commies? Or were they just Capitalists playing a part, to go in and take control of Russia and loot its resources. Like CIA/Wall St. is now doing in Syria. Probably Iran next. Working on Venezuela because they want to control their oil as well.
    So who do you blame for the mass murder? The capitalists? Or the supposed Commie that was financed by the capitalist? It just seems to me that capitalism/wall st is the usury that is forbidden by the bible. Capitalism is the love of money, profit is all that matters, if people have to die or be oppressed so be it. I think American history proves this, what other country murders more than America? Look at the payday loans, title pawns, debt based society we live in, anyone that really believes the politicians who allow this usury are true Christians is beyond brainwashed.

    I don’t know what the solution is, no system will work with the bastards we have in power now still in control. I lean more to the socialist side, the international corporations should not be able to exploit all of our resources and not give anything back to the country. The monopolies and corruption should be punished not rewarded. But for any system to work we have to have an honest government, that cares about its citizens.
    The Jewish people should really be speaking out on the same things white Americans are speaking out on, the overwhelming influence of Zionist/supremacist Jews, anyone can see they are sowing the seeds of their own destruction, digging their own graves. You just can’t act the way they act and expect to get away with it for too long. Maybe the Albert Pike thing about the three world wars is accurate, sure seems like it, they really do seem to be begging for a war to end all wars, destruction of Israel/Palestine, its almost like they want truly people to hate them. I think a lot of Jews/Israelis are just as brainwashed as some Americans though, they’ve been taught to hate. These types should never be in positions of power or influence.
    Good article, lots of questions remain for me. Wish I had more time to research all these events.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  211. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    If he had wanted to make Russia ripe for exploitation by Jewish finance as Unz seems to insinuate with his vague hints about “Jewish exploitation”, there surely would have been more fitting ways than supporting communist revolution.

    Good people can’t imagine real evil. At best they may try to explain to themselves that 2003 war in Iraq was because of greed of oil companies or because of Hussain trying to sell oils for Euros instead of dollars. They can’t comprehend that the real objective was to destroy the country and its infrastructure and to bring chaos and fraternal and sectarian fighting that can be fueled forever by supporting the weaker faction against the stronger faction that may reunify the country. Yes, the profit is necessary but it is not the objective of the 1st tier.

    http://www.unz.com/article/tracing-the-rush-to-war/#comment-2291549

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @Wizard of Oz
  212. “Richard Nixon casually spoke in private of the difficulty he and other anti-Communist investigators had faced in trying to focus on Gentile targets since nearly all of the suspected Soviet spies were Jewish”

    As a child in England in the 70s, I’m old enough to remember how universally Nixon was abhorred. And as time passes it becomes increasingly clear that, for all his faults and crimes, he was the last serious man to be president.

    After him we have had a succession of puppets and clowns.

  213. Anon[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Well you are clearly not WEIRD and, as one of the deficiencies is clearly in education it perhaps should not come as a surprise that

    (a) you do not understand the primary and usual meaning of proselytize – indeed the only meaning that could have been intended in context

    (b) you cite veteranstoday as a source.

  214. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Gnosis is the reigning heresy of our times. It was also the first, the one with which  Lucifer tempted Eve: “eat this, and you shall be like Gods”. 
    In stark contrast to other heresies, which are simply mistaken understandings of truths or Truth, gnosis starts out with a lie: the lie that there exists a hidden trove of knowledge, reserved for a select few. Those blessed few initiates will and then evolve, not through acts of the will, but by sheer knowing. They will become superior, perfect, deified. Essentially, man shares nature with God, the difference is of degree.  Gnosis is a deliberate lie, that springs up recurrently, in many places, in many religions, with modern pagans and atheists too. Lucifer knew it as well as any present day con-man with an ‘enhanced consciousness’ seminar to sell.

    It’s interesting that the Kabbalah, gnostic as you please, is a perversion of the original oral tradition of the Old Testament, through contamination during the Egyptian and Babylonian captivities. The original contained insights about a transcendent God, including a presaging of the Holy Trinity, that are consistent with the truths taught by Christ. 

    Gnosis is all around us: in New Age movements, Kabbalah, Freemasonry, Wicca, ‘human potential’ sects and institutes. Depak Chopra and the Esalen Institute. There’s really no such thing as truth, except the one I can sell you. It even, I think, underpins theories that explains to the masses how the world really works, like Marxism and de constructivism, but those enlightened fellows generously chose to unveil the eyes of a wider public.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  215. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Winnetou1889

    Interesting. And you think that’s what was going on then, too?

    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
  216. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @redmudhooch

    What has always confused me is why the US-ZOG government, Wall st bankers use the CIA to go into all of the Socialist/Communist countries in Latin America to overthrow them. All the mass murder and brutal torture that takes place against dissidents in these coups are very similar to what I read about the Bolshevik rev. Seems like its the same players.

    Nationalism versus globalism. Many of those socialist/communist countries had a strong sense of national identity, or at least were relatively independent of the globalist US empire.

  217. anon[265] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    For lack of strength? The British Empire was at the time at the peak of its strenghth, the word’s superpower. In 1919, they sent 100,000 men, of all places of the world, into Afghanistan. Was there any “democratic mandate”?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Anglo-Afghan_War

    Just like in Syria and other places, the “intervention” was calculated to prolong the war as much as possible, for maximal death and destruction. It worked then, and it still works.

  218. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Very interesting observation. One relatively insignificant detail that nonetheless stands in support of the theory is the way the United States turned a blind eye to all the looting and destruction of Iraqi cultural and historical artifacts. It was as if the people behind the invasion wanted to destroy Iraqi (or at least Sunni) group identity.

    • Replies: @utu
  219. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    That all states make preparations for war and calculations about the chances of winning it is a truism. The real problem is the real intentions underlying these preparations. There is not an exact equivalence between preparations for offense and preparations for defense.

    Germany was not a ‘satisfied power’ at that time. On the contrary. Her building of a High Seas Fleet was not a ‘gratuitous provocation’ but an assertion of her pretensions to be given ‘a place in the Sun’, rather at the table of the big spoliators of the world, of England in the first place. Unimpeded control of Russia’s resources (particularly of its oil resources, but also of the newly discovered oil fields of Iran and Mesopotamia) was practically an imperative in view of the lack of internal ones (the more in the conditions of the conversion of the British Navy to oil, which multiplied its advantage over the German upstart fleet). The High Seas Fleet was a mistake, here Germany was punching above her weight.
    German professors started talking in terms of Germany “fulfilling a world mission” by virtue of that ‘fitting share of the world power which human nature and higher Providence assign to the civilised peoples’ which her army and navy would ensure for her. Against the ‘cultural monopoly of the Anglo- Saxons’ (Britain and America) and the ‘Russo-Muscovite world’ they called for a policy which should make Germany’s special cultural and political heritage safe and thereby guarantee at once the multiplicity and individuality of all peoples and the balance of power in a new world system of states”. This ‘world mission’ could not have been successfully fulfilled without a solid European economic basis under German leadership. Clamors for ‘Lebensraum’ for the young and energetic German nation became louder, sustained by the intoxicating fumes of ‘European cultural superiority’.

    As a matter of fact Russia was the ‘satisfied power’, essentially preoccupied with her internal development. Russia had more than enough ‘Lebensraum’ of her own and she was not after any external conquests. Russia was the first power in the world to ask for a limitation of the crazy arms race that gripped the ‘civilized’ world, Germany in the first place. It was the steady refusal of Germany to reduce armaments that compelled Russia to initiate her program of modernizing her army and not any fanciful ‘Slavophile pretensions’. Russia’s protection for the Orthodox peoples in the Ottoman Empire (not only Slavs, actually primarily Romanians and Greeks) was a policy inscribed in the peace treaties concluded with the Ottoman Empire since the 18th century. It was not only a moral obligation. Russia’s ‘ambitions to control the Straits’ was in fact a policy meant to keep them open for her trade and to prevent a repetition of the Crimean war. The Black Sea was not given by God to the English merchants and Light Brigades.
    The famous ‘Damascus speech’ of Kaiser Wilhelm, his casting himself as the ‘protector’ of the ’300 million Mohamedans’ in the world ‘at all times’, and the building of the Berlin-Baghdad railway couldn’t have but raise Russian and British alarms.

    And it must be remembered that it was Germany seconded by Austria who renounced all the security agreements with Russia, foolishly and irresponsibly not heading the warnings of Bismarck.
    Serbia’s ‘belligerence against everyone’? What about the annexation of Bosnia-Hertzegovina by Austria?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  220. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Good post.

  221. I bought a copy of The Protocols and read it about a year ago. I was struck by the same thing Ron was, how anti climactic it was. Given its fearsome reputation I was expecting to hear stories of Jews dining on goy babies but it reads more like the plans for a corporate takeover of a company or CIA plans to take over a small nation.

    And that, to me, makes it even more chilling and believable.

    • Replies: @Rod1963
  222. Mr. Hack says:
    @Anon

    Gnosis is all around us: in New Age movements, Kabbalah, Freemasonry, Wicca, ‘human potential’ sects and institutes. Depak Chopra and the Esalen Institute.

    Indeed. One would have to put transhumanism squarely within this macro mold too. This movement got its impetus from the likes of Julian Huxley and Arthur C. Clark and perhaps inadvertently by Clark’s confidente, Robert Heinlein. All humanistic attempts to try to deal with and alleviate the maladies associated with life and life extension itself. Obviously an atheistic philosophy. True deification can only proceed from the teachings of Christ.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  223. @Godfree Roberts

    ‘Did you read the critique, Ron’s link?’

    I scanned it. It seemed to rely on (a) an a priori assumption that Mao was a wise and benevolent leader, and (b) a belief that Edgar Snow could be relied upon to give a clear-eyed and objective appraisal of the situation. This is a bit like consulting Hitler and Goebbels in 1943 and concluding that Germany’s got it in the bag.

    Conversely, Tombstone is a carefully researched and painstakingly reasoned book that leads inexorably to the conclusion that while no exact total can even be established, the number was indeed in the region of thirty five million deaths plus forty million fewer births.

  224. utu says:
    @Anon

    Looting was done by lower lever operators who were prepared in advance and probably had lists of things to be looted and names of buyers who were ready to pay for the items. Nothing was left to chance. It was not spontaneous because of chaos. Looting began the moment Americans entered Bagdad.

    • Replies: @Anon
  225. mcohen says:
    @jsm

    Hey man i feel your pain but instead of blaming the jews why not do something to stop the migration.go down to to the border and physically ask those non white people to go home.dont forget to take your leatherman.

  226. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    If he had wanted to make Russia ripe for exploitation by Jewish finance as Unz seems to insinuate with his vague hints about “Jewish exploitation”, there surely would have been more fitting ways than supporting communist revolution

    Such as what?

  227. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    I scanned it. It seemed to rely on (a) an a priori assumption that Mao was a wise and benevolent leader, and (b) a belief that Edgar Snow could be relied upon to give a clear-eyed and objective appraisal of the situation. This is a bit like consulting Hitler and Goebbels in 1943 and concluding that Germany’s got it in the bag.

    Actually, I’ll admit I didn’t find Godfree Roberts’s article too convincing, but the long comment-thread led me to a couple of other sources that raised some serious doubts in my mind. I’ll freely admit I haven’t read Tombstone, and it’s very possible that book would settle those doubts.

    • Replies: @BillyBob
  228. @Kratoklastes

    As my last paragraph indicates I don’t say you are substantially wrong but I think you perhaps overstate your case though I expect you know the US, especially NYC and LA situation much better than I.

  229. @Seraphim

    ‘Germany was not a ‘satisfied power’ at that time…’

    I feel that your points about Germany have some validity; after all, I am not claiming that Germany was blameless, merely that she was no more to blame than others.

    On the other hand, you appear to grant legitimacy to the most extravagant Russian claims. You would grant her domination of the entire Balkan peninsula and control of ‘the straits’ — which would happen to be the core of the Ottoman Empire. That’s a bit like deciding Turkey should have title to Moscow. To get back to the immediate cause of the war, Russia had no rational reason to decide that Austria deciding to bring Serbia down a peg was any of her business; Serbia was literally hundreds of miles from the nearest Russian frontier. Why should Russia have perceived herself to have a cause for war in anything Austria did vis-a-vis Serbia?

    Finally, I note you don’t contest the role of France in all this.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Epigon
  230. @ploni almoni

    If by “dualist” you refer to belief in mind (or soul) and body as separate subjects of causation in distinct spheres then I wonder why you don’t include all Christians.

  231. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I thought I remembered his dates as a bit early for the Protocols – first published in 2003. Indeed he died in 1881

    My carelessness in that comment. The Protocols supposedly first surfaced around 1895, and for some reason, I vaguely thought Disraeli was still alive at that point. But anyway, his novel I was referring to was published in the 1840s.

  232. Ron Unz says:
    @German_reader

    (1) At the time Wickham Steed wrote the 1922 memoirs I cited, the reports of Schiff’s heavy financing of the Bolsheviks hadn’t yet gotten out, which happened in 1925 I think. However, he was able to identify Schiff as a strong political backer of the Bolsheviks at the Peace Conference, which tends to strongly support those latter stories.

    (2) Regarding the New York Journal-American column, even sharp critics of the Schiff theory have never disputed its authenticity. Surely if it didn’t exist, surely someone over the years would have checked the microfilm records and exploded the hoax. Fanatic Jewish-activists types always do that sort of thing.

    (3) There seems absolutely no doubt of Schiff’s financial backing for the 1905 Revolution, as personally described by his local agent, George Kennan. Here are a couple of links (including to an NYT article), which also provide some discussion on the 1917 involvement:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/10/wall-street-and-the-march-1917-russian-revolution/

    https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Jacob-Schiff-Jewish-banker-financed-35-million-dollar-to-Lenin-and-Trotsky-for-the-purpose-of-changing-Russia-into-a-communist-state

    (4) As for Wickham Steed “just being a journalist,” well, sure. But he was Editor of The Times of London, and presumably he had lots of good sources in the diplomatic and political world. Maybe he was just lying—who knows? Maybe Schiff’s grandson was also lying. Maybe Kennan was lying. But if there’s absolutely nothing on the other side, the default assumption is generally to accept these sorts of sources.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  233. ohmy says:
    @Cyrano

    … “According to some, one of the ethnic groups that have benefited the most from the good old capitalism are the Jews.”
    “Thanks to the capitalist system, many of them have managed to become enormously rich – some would say thanks to their genetic predisposition towards greed, which of course is unique only to them”.

    The problem with the capitalist system is not capitalism per se, rather the problem is, it’s their system.
    FACT … if you’re a Jew, and in good standing with the Synagogue you may file bankruptcy in State Court, then trot right over to the local temple, and get a loan from the Tribe. Then change your name and shingle. Presto your still in business, and never missed a beat. A Jew can do this 3 times.
    If my memory is correct the check will have 3 small 6 pointed stars near the top border. If you aren’t a Jew and are unfortunate enough to file bankruptcy you’re out of luck. Just get in line with the other goyim at your local bank. The wait is about 7 years.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  234. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    …the way the United States turned a blind eye…

    • Replies: @utu
  235. @Anon

    It isn’t difficult at all to fathom. (JP) Morgan’s Law: Two reasons for everything, a good reason and the real reason. More crime results in greater acceptance of repressive policing, a “security state”.

  236. Cyrano says:
    @Colin Wright

    Ever heard about the New Deal? Do you have any idea why it happened? Because the capitalists took pity on the working class in the middle of the great depression? When the same capitalists were bled dry by the recession too and could least afford to implement any generosities towards the working class?

    If it wasn’t for the communist threat, you still would be working 12 hours, six days a week, with no pensions or any kind or unemployment insurance.

    Why do you think the capitalists hated Russia so much? Because they violated the human rights of their citizens and because of the Gulag?

    Capitalist hated Russia because it forced them to be little bit more generous to the domestic servants – the working class. It’s not the communist propaganda that the capitalists were afraid of. They were afraid that the communist revolution might give some ideas to the dummies.

    Propaganda wasn’t invented by the communists anyway. It was invented by the capitalist in order to counter the appeal that communism actually did have in those days. The main function of immigration is not to control the wages, it’s to feed the continuous expansion and growth of capitalism, because the only alternative to growth in capitalism is recession, not maintenance of the same level of standard of living.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @James Charles
  237. Ron Unz says:
    @Zimriel

    ‘The Protocols’ is a lie. A czarist plagiary of Maurice Joly’s (excellent) broadside against Napoleon III.

    Actually, the whole “plagiarism” argument seems totally ridiculous to me…

    After all, I think it extremely unlikely that the Protocols represents an actual transcript of loquacious super-villain exhaustively describing his diabolical master-place to conquer the world.

    On the other hand, if they went to outline what the author believed that people like Schiff were doing, then it’s perfectly possible various elements might have been borrowed from previous works, such as the Joly one you mention. I’d really have to compare the two texts in detail to decide how close the match might be.

  238. @Tim too

    Because it’s so catchy? I’d suggest he go with something like, “A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media”. Oh wait, he already does.

  239. Ron Unz says:
    @German_reader

    Actually, a very detailed contemporaneous discussion of Schiff’s activities which seems pretty plausible is Ford’s The International Jew, which I repeatedly linked above. Since the text is fully searchable, you can use:

    http://www.unz.com/book/henry_ford__the-international-jew/?highlight=schiff

    Once you’re in the document, you might want to search “schiff and russia” to get the parts discussing his anti-Russia activities, which seem entirely consistent with the (much less detailed) New York Times article published around the same time.

    • Replies: @German_reader
  240. Wally says:
    @Sean

    You dodged my questions to you, which were:

    If so, then what exactly did that “microfilm text” say?

    And citation, please.

    • Replies: @Sean
  241. Weaver1 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Just as a general statement, controlling the culture and history of a people is powerful. How Jews have acted as a group here, I couldn’t say, but charity of this sort isn’t necessarily helpful.

    Medical research and hospitals sound incorruptible.

  242. Svigor says:
    @Wally

    WTF are you talking about you lunatic? Do you even know?

    • Replies: @Wally
  243. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    What do you see as the menu of possibilities (within reason) with respect to what the document is:

    A. Authentic strategy document from a Jewish group
    B. Outsider parody of Jewish behavior
    C. Outsider attempt to describe certain Jewish behavior and to educate
    D. Attempt to teach governing strategies, with relative indifference to the actor (Jews being arbitrary)
    E. Outsider hoax to cast Jews in a bad light
    F. Plagiarized (by whom?) document (of whom?)
    G. ???

    And which do you consider most plausible?

  244. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    Sure, Unz. One Jewish banker trying his luck and attempting to make money off a revolution is crucial to world undertanding, but the military invasion of the Soviet Union in order to topple the Bolshevik government by the British Empire, Czechoslovakia, France, Greece, Japan, Italy, Serbia, America and even China gets absolutely no mention.

    It must be a strange feeling to think that Schiff’s relatively minor lending to an emerging market was the decisive factor in the defeat of those forces.

  245. @Colin Wright

    It relies on data. What a concept.

  246. Rod1963 says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    That was my impression after reading it as well.

    The people who wrote it certainly knew a lot about social engineering which leads me to think it was not written by some crank in a basement but by those whose job it is monitor nations and peoples, and to manipulate them. IOW intelligence agents. Probably British given they had a world wide spy network at the time.

  247. utu says:
    @Anon

    …the way the United States turned a blind eye…

    Have Pillaged Iraqi Artifacts Ended Up in a Museum in Israel?

    https://richardedmondson.net/2015/03/12/have-pillaged-iraqi-artifacts-ended-up-in-a-museum-in-israel/

    Ancient artifacts seized in Jerusalem in Hobby Lobby antiquities case

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/01/middleeast/antiquities-arrests-jerusalem/index.html

  248. @utu

    There remain unresolved puzzles despite the elements of truth in your post. It goes without saying that Israel saw it as in its interests for the ME to be Balkanised. Iraq was seen as dangerous despite it’s being under minority rule (if not as extreme as in Syria). But it must surely have occurred to those egging on the neocons and those they influenced who really thought they could democratize the ME that Iran might be given a lift to unwelcome dominance. Surely?

    Then the establishment of a Kurdish state that would prima facie be a friend seems a worthwhile goal – and one consistent with Iraq remaining destabilized by conflict between Shia and Sunni Arabs. But on the face of it the US has been for keeping all of Iraq united in one state.

    US oil interests – pre the fracking breakthroughs – would hardly want Iraq to remain in chaos and, indeed, the US must rationally have wanted to be able to show that its interventions worked for prosperity and peace. So….

    I am not sure that any major force was in favour of the permanently manipulable failed state condition you posit.

  249. Jacob Schiff funded the Japanese in the Russo-Japanese war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff#National_loans

  250. @Ron Unz

    ‘Actually, the whole “plagiarism” argument seems totally ridiculous to me…’

    What I find improbable isn’t the notion that individuals such as Schiff may have financed Communist revolution, and even that they came from a culture where such activities would be seen as good, so much as I doubt the notion that there was a conscious, organized conspiracy — that has never been clearly caught out.

    One thinks of Mitt Romney’s ’49%’ remark, of Israel’s various machinations that have come rather embarassingly to light, of Nixon’s ‘secret’ bombing of Cambodia, of Katyn.

    These things have a nasty tendency to come out. Yet we’re to believe that there has been a conscious, organized kabal of Jews working to bring about some kind of anti-utopia for over a century — and no one’s spilled the beans. Ever.

    I don’t think so. I don’t think things actually work this way. I think that people tend to imagine that they do — Freemasonry, the Trilateral Commission, Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor, etc. It provides a nice, simple explanation for it all. Sort of a substitute for a belief in God, perhaps? There must be some guiding consciousness.

    But I just don’t think it’s that way. I don’t think reality’s that organized. It’s appallingly akin to a random walk. No one’s running the show. I think that’s actually a frightening thought. After all, if someone was in charge, we would at least be assured there was some sort of light at the end of the tunnel — even if it wasn’t one we were going to like.

    Well, maybe there isn’t a light at the end of the tunnel. There’s no plan at all, and things are just going to keep happening.

  251. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    SJW checklist:

    Only the deplorable group have moral agency. (One American Jewish banker versus governments that literally ruled half of the world.)

    Everyone else are piteous victims who are too moral for their own good.

    The deplorable group are responsible for all bad. (Jews made Stalin)

    The default is all good. (Russia absent Jews)

    Utterly false documents speak to a larger truth if they fit SJW ideology. (Protocols of Zion)

    A basic fact of history was ignored by all until SJW ideology came along. This validates all SJW claims. (Everyone always knew that France was the dominant power that everyone else had to gang up on prior to Germany uniting.)

    It is useful to bizarrely obsess about the deplorable group as few other publications bizarrely obsess over them.

    A newspaper once published something SJW stuff agrees with, therefore it must have value.

    Also, the Protocols are hokey as it gets. Sure, if you parse to a few points you might find some coincidence but with a five minute read I found out that supposedly the great conspiracy was to implement “object lessons” in schools.

    This is what “object lessons” seem to be. And it was supposedly one of the Elders “top 4 agents” who helped introduce them to France. One of the top 4!

    What a plan! Get children to choose an object and talk about it. Ooh, the subversion! Plato’s Republic has nothing on the intellectual rigour of this text.

    http://history.powys.org.uk/school1/knighton/objects.shtml

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @anonymous
  252. @Wizard of Oz

    It has been speculated Britain deliberately botched the Gallipoli campaign. They sacrificed tens of thousands of soldiers to avoid their commitment to give Constantinople to Russia. If true it would give an indication of the evil nature of the British Empire. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-04-24/30630

  253. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Actually, the whole “plagiarism” argument seems totally ridiculous to me…

    Yeah, it’s the absolute dumbest argument against The Protocols I can think of. Not only does the document not fit the technical definition of forgery–i.e., that it used some author’s name without permission–but it’s a criticism that misses the main point the entirely: namely, the validity of the ideas contained in the document. I mean, one might as well condemn Orwell’s 1984 for being a ‘fake’. After all, we know that Oceana never really existed, and that Winston Smith was an imaginary person, so we can safely assume that nothing similar to what is described in the book ever happened anywhere, right?

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @renfro
  254. cassandra says:
    @Cyrano

    “The only way that it will make sense to me is that the Jews financed the October revolution because they expected that their people will get more equal treatment under that system than in Czarist Russia.”

    The simplest, most direct, strategy is to simply seize power. Why would the Jews worry about establishing favorable economic or political systems for themselves if they could wield power directly? In financial terms, why be the czar’s middleman tax collector when you can keep the take for yourself? Only catch is, how do you con the population into accepting a program which will only benefit a few %. For this it’s necessary to provide some plausible ideology, to psychologically propagandize the masses to accept what’s going on, long enough for a secret police to be established. Then control is firm, and the ideology just morphs into slogans, and when circumstances devolve, into tyrrany (this happened in Germany). The hazard is that another party might seize these levers of power, so carefully established established, in a coup. I think that is what Stalin managed, but I’m not competent to address the main problem for this scenario, namely, how did he wrest power from the Jewish cabal when they had so much international support? Perhaps Jewish control was never decisive in the first place. After all, ethnic Lithuanian Dzerzhinsky was the one who controlled the GRU and the Cheka, and Krupskaya and others maintained substantial political influence.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  255. Seraphim says:
    @Colin Wright

    I can see how hard is to ‘un-learn’ hardwired tropes like ‘Slavophils’, ‘Panslavism’, ‘Russian aggression’. Turkey couldn’t possibly have any title on Moscow, whereas the Orthodox had on Constantinople, on which the Ottomans had not.
    You instinctively think in the ‘Western’ paradigm. These countries of the ‘pesky’ Balkans don’t really exist, their history is meaningless until they are touched by ‘Europe’, their culture is non-existent, they can’t have their national aspirations. You should know that the Orthodox Serbians were in Serbia and Bosnia before any Austrian decided to bring them ‘to a peg’ or to a pig (punny reference to the ‘Pig War’ of 1906-09, you perhaps heard about it). Now, if Russia had a cause in Serbian cause it was because they were Orthodox, they fought together against the Ottoman oppressor, they have been under formal Russian protection until 1856.
    Russian foreign policy was not based on any ‘Panslavism’. Actually Panslavism was a creation of the ‘Austrian’ Slavs and it was not meant to include the Russians. Russian foreign policy was always motivated by geo-political reasons.
    Probably the Franco-Russian alliance would have never happened, had Germany not renounced the Reinsurance Treaty of 1887, negotiated by Bismarck. The dismissal of Bismarck and the renewal of the Triple Alliance in 1891 left Russia with little options.

  256. Epigon says:
    @Colin Wright

    To get back to the immediate cause of the war, Russia had no rational reason to decide that Austria deciding to bring Serbia down a peg was any of her business; Serbia was literally hundreds of miles from the nearest Russian frontier.

    Because you have exactly 0 understanding of Balkan history and affairs.

    Because you fail to realise the huge strategic importance of Belgrade overwatching Danube and Serbia controlling central Balkan peninsula, especially post-Balkan wars

    Because you have no idea on the background of 1903 coup in Serbia, nor the reality of Austro-Hungary having larger Serb population than Serbia, nor their explicite program of exploiting their Slavic provinces due to lack of overseas ones; finally, German imperialism demanded a tight control and rule of an area from Baltic to Black and Mediterranean Sea: they were so transparent in this that even “liberal theologians” like Naumann expressed those desires.

    1878 Berlin congress and 1912/1913 London conference were Germans, Austrians, French and British blocking Russian success, reanimating Ottoman corpse and furthering Austrian/German influence in the Balkans. Crimean war is telling enough.

    France and Ottomans had a century long alliance, British and French played a great part in prolonging Ottoman rule in many regions, not to mention Turkish and Kurdish atrocities against Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks.

    Drang nach Osten is dead. European Imperialism is dead. Far too late and at far too great a cost.

  257. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    Not sarcasm, I think the 1905 Revolution was a key turning point for ending Britains isolationist policy . Before 1905 Russia was a powerful deterrent to Germany but that year Russia was in chaos, though it was obviously caused by a defeat of Russia by Japan, which was in turn contributed to by the fact that , as John Mearshiemer put it “Neither Japan nor Russia was able to gain the upper hand in Korea, mainly because Korean policymakers skillfully played the two great powers off against each other”, so there was a war, It was a bit like Britain being defeated in the battle of France in WW2, suddenly US isolationism was too risky

    The Times”s tone was that responsible people should not ignore such fake news and let it go unchallenged, because it was having a real effect on public opinion

  258. @Wizard of Oz

    Not implausible but can you firm up the source to somewhere 100 per cent trustworthy?

    Here you go! As you will see it’s from his “political biography” of Lord George Bentinck.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  259. @German_reader

    I haven’t read it, and certainly can’t vouch for the its credibiity, but a book referred to earlier (Antony Sutton, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution) seems to make a strong case for its title. I suggest you have a look at the section “The Evidence Presented: A Synopsis” (Chapter XI) to give you a better idea of what he claims (and maintains that he has shown in the book):

    https://archive.org/stream/WallStreetTheBolshevikRevolution#page/n63/search/synopsis

    This section also provides his “Explanation for the Unholy Alliance”.

  260. Sean says:

    Lord Alfred Douglas’s* Plain English magazine claimed that Nalopeon III was sired by a Rothschild. So the protocols were about Jewish strategising. I think you can get something out of the Protocols if you take them as Salena Zito said Trump supporters take him: seriously, not literally. The Protocols are rhetoric (“Rhetoric is not the devious art of non-rational persuasion, but the best tool we have for exposing the unstated assumptions that lie behind any surface proposition. The analytic contempt for rhetoric and metaphor must not be emulated – not just because this attitude leads to boring results, but because it is philosophically false.” – Graham Harman)

    *The perils of taking it literally

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2000/jun/04/biography
    Douglas’s public nadir came when Churchill sued him over wild allegations that he had taken part in a Jewish-financed conspiracy to have Kitchener ‘murdered’ in 1916; Douglas received a prison sentence.

  261. @German_reader

    I can’t think of any plausible reason why Schiff would have supported the Bolsheviks …

    But yes, I suppose expecting an answer to those questions here is probably futile.

    The first thing is to understand whether Schiff did indeed support the Bolsheviks, and the answer appears to be “yes”.

    Then we can try to understand his motives, which is a much more difficult problem and may be impossible to resolve. If it is hard to search for an answer here, it will be even more difficult in other contemporary discussion boards, where unwanted questions are either suppressed or shouted down.

  262. Sean says:
    @Cyrano

    Antony C. Sutton said the New Deal was supported by big business because the free market system was begining to create too much competition and business faced with ever increasing competition preferred to retreat into cartels.

    • Replies: @pogohere
  263. @Colin Wright

    ” I feel that Britain probably was the one power least responsible for the outbreak of war.”

    Here is someone that thinks that Britain was the main instigator of the war?

    Conjuring Hitler: How Britain and America Made the Third Reich
    by Guido Giacomo Preparata

  264. Seraphim says:
    @Tyrion 2

    @Jews made Stalin

    And unmade him.

  265. @Tyrion 2

    ” . . . but the military invasion of the Soviet Union in order to topple the Bolshevik government by the British Empire, Czechoslovakia, France, Greece, Japan, Italy, Serbia, America and even China gets absolutely no mention.”

    An half-hearted attempt?

    The US committed 2m troops in an attempt to defeat Germany.

    The Anglo-American forces deployed against the ‘greater evil’, the S.U., were 30,000.

    Conjuring Hitler: How Britain and America Made the Third Reich
    by Guido Giacomo Preparata

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  266. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @James Charles

    That they put up any force at all following WWI is truly remarkable.

  267. @Ron Unz

    I looked up your links, and found this, a letter by Schiff to the NYT from March 1917:

    https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1917/03/18/113302374.pdf

    where he expresses his joy about the February revolution (“…my joy that the Russian nation, a great and good people, have at last effected their deliverance from centuries of autocratic oppression and through an almost bloodless revolution have now come into their own”). He certainly was opposed to the Czarist system (a common sentiment among Western liberals at the time), and it seems not implausible that he supported efforts to remove it. But why should he have supported the Bolsheviks after March 1917 when Czarism had been overthrown by Western-style liberal republicans? So far, nobody here has given a satisfying answer to that imo.

    Regarding the New York Journal-American column, even sharp critics of the Schiff theory have never disputed its authenticity.

    The problem is that you cited only one sentence from this column, so it’s very hard to evaluate the context. It would be good if someone could track down the entire text and make it available. I’m unable to do so, but maybe some other reader can do it.

    But he was Editor of The Times of London

    According to Wikipedia Wickham-Steed wrote on July 31 1914 about efforts to stop British intervention in the approaching war that they were “a dirty German-Jewish international financial attempt to bully us into advocating neutrality”.
    I have serious doubt about his judgement, and he doesn’t give any sources in his memoirs for his (vague and short) claims about Schiff’s alleged pro-Bolshevik lobbying in 1919, so it’s hard to see what was the reality behind those claims.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Colin Wright
    , @Anon
  268. @Ron Unz

    I skimmed through it, and only found references to Schiff’s support of Japan in the Russo-Japanese war, and other vague references to anti-Russian activities (something about trade relations during the Taft administration in 1911)…but as far as I can see nothing that is clearly about Schiff directly supporting the Bolsheviks.
    I might have to look more closely though.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  269. @Tyrion 2

    but the military invasion of the Soviet Union in order to topple the Bolshevik government

    That didn’t really happen, it’s a commie myth…as far as I know, there was no concerted allied attempt to end Bolshevism, the allies merely wanted to safeguard their own interests (e.g. preventing military supplies like munitions from falling under German control).

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  270. @for-the-record

    Thank you! What a discovery. An intelligent anti Semite could cause immense mischief with that and have a lot of fun at the same time ;-)

  271. Is current financial investor and commenter Peter Schiff related to Jacob Schiff?

  272. @Jon Halpenny

    Thank you. I started out thinking not even the most rabidly anti English of my Irish forebears could have believed that but ended up hoping more light could be thrown on it.

  273. Ron Unz says:
    @German_reader

    I looked up your links, and found this, a letter by Schiff to the NYT from March 1917:

    Actually, the Kennan remarks are in a different NYT article:

    https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1917/03/24/102324302.pdf

    He confirms Schiff’s crucial role in fomenting the 1905 revolution, something never mentioned in any of my standard history texts, but covered in the Ford book, which considerably enhances the credibility of the latter relative to the former.

    As I mentioned in my article, I strongly suspect that the $20M figure refers to his total funding over the decades for all Russian revolutionary activities, including both Menshevik and Bolshevik (e.g. Trotsky wasn’t really a Bolshevik until late 1917), and the difference to most outsiders would have been very obscure until later.

    Then, once the Bolsheviks took power, Wickham Steed describes Schiff as one of their crucial political backers and allies. I’m sure if the Mensheviks had won, he would have filled the same role.

    All of these remarkable facts, once widely accepted in the MSM, were totally “disappeared” from the standard history books for over 80 years, which really should give us pause.

  274. [quote]A file in the U.S. State Department, ‘Bolshevism and Judaism’, dated November 13, 1918, asserted that there could be no doubt that the ‘Jewish Firm’ Kuhn, Loeb & Company and its partners ‘started and engineered’ the revolution in Russia[/quote]

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/category/banking/max-warburg/

  275. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Supposedly the British supplied the White Russian forces with 600,000 rifles amongst other things, but, otherwise, it seems that you’re right. The allied intervention was pretty weak. I would say that it amounted to rather more than Schiff’s moneylending though.

    This website also claims that only 1.5% of Bolshevik party members on the eve of the revolution were known to be Jewish. Does anyone know of any membership list?

    https://therebbeblog.wordpress.com/2018/04/02/the-jewish-question-answered/

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Svigor
  276. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Tyrion 2

    Alternatively, the Jerusalem Post reports this on leadership positions:

    The Central Committee of the USSR is instructive as an indicator of the prominence of Jews in leadership positions. In the Sixth Congress of the Bolshevik Russian Social Democratic Labor Party and its Central Committee elected in August 1917, we find that five of the committee’s 21 members were Jewish. This included Trotsky, Zinoviev, Moisei Uritsky, Sverdlov and Grigori Sokolnikov. Except for Sverdlov, they were all from Ukraine. The next year they were joined by Kamenev and Radek. Jews made up 20% of the central committees until 1921, when there were no Jews on this leading governing body.

    The high percentage of Jews in governing circles in these early years matched their percentage in urban environments, politburo member Sergo Ordzhonikidze told the 15th Congress of the party, according to Solzhenitsyn. Most Jews lived in towns and cities due to urbanization and laws that had kept them off the land.

    Jewish membership in top circles continued to decline in the 1920s. By the 11th Congress, only Lazar Kaganovich was elected to the Central Committee in 1922 alongside 26 other members. Subsequently few Jews served in these leadership positions. In 1925 there were four Jews out of 63 members. Like the rest of their comrades, almost all of them were killed in the purges. Others elected in 1927 and 1930 were shot as well, including Grigory Kaminsky, who came from a family of blacksmiths in Ukraine. With the exception of Lev Mekhlis and Kaganovich, few senior communist Jews survived the purges.

    https://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Was-the-Russian-Revolution-Jewish-514323

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  277. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    People use the Protocols as some sort of evidence of Jewish conspiracy. If you used 1984 as evidence of Big Brother conspiracy you’d be carted off to the madhouse.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Wally
  278. @Ron Unz

    He confirms Schiff’s crucial role in fomenting the 1905 revolution

    I’m not sure he “confirms” a crucial role for the subversive activities sponsored by Schiff…Western democracy-promoters may have liked to exaggerate their own importance even back then, and there had been at least some revolutionary ferment in Russia since the 1870s or so.
    It seems to be clear that Schiff was opposed to Czarism, and his Jewish ethnicity certainly played some role in that due to the perception of Russia as the primary antisemitic power, and at least before March 1917 he sponsored some anti-Czarist activities. But that’s not the same imo as the claim that Schiff provided financial backing for the Bolshevik takeover in 1917/18.
    But thanks for posting the link to this NYT article…a fine example of American self-righteousness and the delusional nature of American democracy-worship. Some things haven’t changed at all since 1917.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Ron Unz
  279. Sean says:
    @Wally

    You could have found out for yourself by now, old mate.

  280. Sean says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Animal Farm does have the pigs, who are the cleverest animals in the barnyard and invent communism. I wonder who they are meant to be.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Anon
  281. @Cyrano

    The ‘Capitalists’ may have hated the S.U., however, ‘the West’ were, at the same time, aiding the communists?

    “Taken together, these four volumes constitute an extraordinary commentary on a basic weakness in the Soviet system
    The Soviets are heavily dependent on Western technology and innovation not only in their civilian industries, but also in their military programs.
    An inevitable conclusion from the evidence in this book is that we have totally ignored a policy that would enable us to neutralize Soviet global ambitions while simultaneously reducing the defense budget and the tax load on American citizens.”

    http://www.crowhealingnetwork.net/pdf/Antony%20Sutton%20-%20The%20Best%20Enemy%20Money%20Can%20Buy.pdf

  282. Wally says:
    @Tyrion 2

    The problem for you and those like you is the accuracy of the claims within the Protocols.

    http://www.codoh.com

  283. Wally says:
    @Svigor

    Sorry, I realize you’re a Zionist Jew, I’ll spoon feed you.

    1. You think that by essentially calling Unz ‘another Hitler’ you somehow can deflect his article.

    That tactic is especially absurd since Hitler didn’t do the impossible ’6M’, and that fake ’6M’ is only in the mind of curiously wishful thinking Jews, since at least 1823.

    2. You dodge the fact that your guys have been trying the fake ’6M’ scam since 1823.
    Why is that?

    for your reading pleasure:

    Jerusalem, the Capital of Apartheid
    by Ran HaCohen

    https://original.antiwar.com/hacohen/2017/12/10/jerusalem-capital-apartheid/

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @Svigor
  284. Wade says:

    Bravo Ron! Thanks for another great piece. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. As usual, your articles and the comment sections always distract me from my job for about an hour or more! But it is always a very welcome distraction. Looking forward to what you’ll write next.

  285. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Sean

    Orwell didn’t much like many of the Jews he met, especially when he was younger. I can’t say I’m unsympathetic, but it is a bit of a stretch to say that the pigs = Jews. I haven’t seen any evidence that this was intended.

    We also know who some of the pigs actually represented.The one pig who was actually Jewish was Snowball/Trotsky. He was very sympathetically portrayed.

    Meanwhile, Napoleon/Stalin and Squealer/Molotov were portrayed monstrously.

    Furthermore, my point was merely that something featuring in a fictional work is not therefore true; which is such a banal observation, I am shocked that I have had to make it!

    • Replies: @Anon
  286. Wade says:
    @Wally

    Lol! Wally we can always count on you for a quick response. This is one of your best retorts.

  287. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Those “times” are late 19th and early 20th centuries, long after Disraeli’s prime, and his work (or at least all I’ve ever known of it) does not really fit into that category at all.

    What is the significance of the date 2003?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  288. jsm says:
    @Wally

    Wally, I think you’ve gotten Svig mistaken for someone else.

    He’s been fighting the Good Fight against the anti-anti-Semites for as long as I’ve been hanging around. Twenty years or more..

    Click on his name, read his back posts.

  289. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Given that one of them is Stalin, not Jews?

    • Replies: @Sean
  290. Heros says:
    @James N. Kennett

    “When presenting controversial material, IMHO it is best to minimize offense to everyone, so that the material can speak for itself.”

    That really begs the question “For what purpose is Ron Unz publishing the Pravda series”?

    If Unz is trying to convince Jewish supremacists that they know even less than the goyim about history, then I don’t think these articles will change a single jews mind. I have been watching the comments closely looking for clues, and the standard Jewish reaction is denial, misdirection, or the usual:

    “Sure, goyim, it could have happened. Now turn the other cheek and let bygones be bygones.”

    In other words, no jew is going to change his supremacist and prejudiced view of goyim, and no jew is going to admit that anti-semitism is just a reaction to jewish supremacism. Instead, we see many jews trying to use these articles as opportunities to goy bait, race bait, and spit their usual goy hatred. You know, call goyim inbred kkk hood wearing redneck hicks.

    From the viewpoint of a Christian however, we have a web site that very rarely censors or blocks comments covering massive jewish conspiracies and crimes that led to the death of millions of Christians. This is one of the rare opportunities we have to discuss jewish hatred, and when talking about people who want to see you and your family obliterated, a little sharp language is in order.

    The real issue here is the deliberate, coordinated, and systematic jewish overthrow of a Christian country and the subsequent genocide of tens of millions of Christians, plus another document written clearly by jews laying out their plans for the genocide of all Christians on the planet.

    In case you haven’t noticed, genocide is considered a major, if not the major, crime against “humanity”. Every week we have more proof of jewish perfidity and sadism, we have jews making snotty arrogant replies, and we have people like you saying that Unz should “minimize offense” to jews.

    What you are demanding is that Unz, and everyone else too, show self-censor whenever jews might kvetch or spit at us, while the only thing I want to hear from Jews posting at Unz is an apology for centuries of our exploitation by their tribe of secret societies.

  291. TheOldOne says:

    Anybody know of an English translation of Solzhenitsyn’s commentary on the Protocols?

    Thanks in advance.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  292. gsjackson says:

    Wow, I just read the Protocols for the first time. Whatever its provenance, I’ve never seen anything that explains the last 100 years or so of American history so thoroughly and accurately.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  293. @Anon

    2003? I had in mind 1895 which is what Ron subsequently mentioned but I found 2003 given as the publication date (in Russian I think).

    I wasn’t intending to suggest that there weren’t considerable changes in literary and politico-philosophical fashion between the days of Disraeli as novelist and the late Victorian and Edwardian stories I referred to. But there was maybe a bit more continuity than you would expect once wireless and cinema took off.

  294. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    There is also Old Major who is at least partly based on Marx. My recollection of Animal Farm is spotty so I turned to wiki, which thinks several other (unnamed) pigs are based on Zinoviev and Kamenev.

    But actually Animal Farm is a very good example of political satire, in the form of fiction, used as analysis, and a cutting analysis at that.

  295. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Absolutely. Bringing in Schiff into the story of Bolshevik Revolution and mixing Jews in takes away responsibility from true perpetrators who is Germany and Germans. It is Germany that is responsible for Bolshevik revolution. Germany paid millions and sent Lenin, who btw was a crypto-German, to Russia. They did it in order to start a bloody revolution for which they could blame Jews so they could bring Hitler to power who then would be able to justify his attempt at exterminating Jews which he almost succeeded. But not all Germans are bad. You, German_reader are a shining example of new breed of good Germans. Keep sending the virtue signal to the whole world that there are good Germans who are willing to take the whole guilt on themselves and will not share responsibility for anything with anybody. Good job.

    • LOL: Yevardian
    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @annamaria
  296. @Ron Unz

    There is nothing too outrageous about Schiff’s support for anti-Czarist forces by the standards of modern American foreign policy and practice. Moreover the only reason George Soros can’t be seen as backing the Bolsheviks is that he has had the benefit of hindsight. Did Schiff have any prospective idea about the likely reality that didn’t escape Bertrand Russell’s clear eyes as early as 1921?

  297. And people vilified Hitler for raving about a ‘rootless international clique’ of financiers.

  298. Ron Unz says:
    @German_reader

    I’m not sure he “confirms” a crucial role for the subversive activities sponsored by Schiff…Western democracy-promoters may have liked to exaggerate their own importance even back then, and there had been at least some revolutionary ferment in Russia since the 1870s or so.

    Well, look. I gave you a 1917 NYT article in which Schiff’s operative boasts in detail about how his boss had funded and fomented the 1905 revolution. The editor of the Times of London described Schiff as a key backer of the Bolsheviks, and Schiff’s grandson later said he’s spent $20M to overthrow the Russian government. I also referenced Ackerman’s 2016 book on Trotsky which cites numerous sources regarding these matters, including U.S. Military Intelligence reports saying Schiff financed the Bolsheviks via Trotsky, but dismisses them all as “anti-Semitism.”

    If you just dismiss all the claims and quotes you don’t like, then how does anyone know anything about history? Suppose Schiff had published a book bragging that he had single-handedly been responsible for the Bolshevik Revolution and got Lenin and Trotsky to provide blurbs confirming that claim. You could still argue that they were all lying, and it wasn’t true…

    • Replies: @German_reader
  299. @utu

    It is Germany that is responsible for Bolshevik revolution.

    Well, to some degree that may be true, German support for the Bolsheviks certainly played some role, and was a very bad idea in hindsight. But Germany’s situation in 1917 was desperate, and the Russian provisional government could easily have avoided German backing for the Bolsheviks if it had concluded a separate peace (which it would have gotten at favorable conditions in mid-1917), instead of continuing the war and actually starting another offensive.
    The real fault lies with Britain, France and the US whose leaders believed their own demented propaganda about “German militarism” and who resisted every German attempt at bringing the war to an end via negotiations.

    You, German_reader are a shining example of new breed of good Germans.

    I’m a German nationalist and very far from being a “good German”. But extraordinary claims like “New York banker financed the Bolsheviks” require convincing evidence, and so far I haven’t seen any. Maybe you could investigate the matter (how about getting the full text of that New Your Journal-American article?) and show us the results.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Rurik
  300. cassandra says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Another “missing” book, recently published by describing this era, is Gerd Schulze-Rhonhof’s “1939-The War That Had Many Fathers”. From the start, the book gives the impression that Western Europe (specifically England, in this case) doesn’t want Eastern Europe (in this case Germany) to become an equal player on the world stage. The fanatical pre-WWI propaganda campaign against Germany, documented here, eerily resonates with contemporary media demonization of Russia, another Eastern country whose transgression is trying to stand on its own feet and claim some respect.

  301. Rurik says:
    @Heros

    when talking about people who want to see you and your family obliterated, a little sharp language is in order.

    lol

    The real issue here is the deliberate, coordinated, and systematic jewish overthrow of a Christian country and the subsequent genocide of tens of millions of Christians, plus another document written clearly by jews laying out their plans for the genocide of all Christians on the planet.

    very cogent

    somewhere in the comments, someone compared The Protocols to Orwell’s 1984.

    That was very insightful, because in both cases, it doesn’t matter who wrote it or why, the point is that both books were and are extremely prescient and demonstrated the motivations and methods of the Fiend’s very real manifestations in our world.

    They are both blueprints for engineering a nightmare dystopia as an expression of the psychotic hatred of human happiness that motivates their zealotry.

    Who cares if the Protocols are a ‘forgery’. Would 1984 be any less prescient if it were written by a ‘forger’?

    It’s enough that both books are pertinent in the extreme.

  302. @Ron Unz

    I looked up that book by Ackerman, some relevant quotes:

    p.108:

    Since the outbreak of world war in 1914, Schiff again had refused to lend money to Britain and France so long as they supported the tsar, even if his Kuhn Loeb bank lost business and he was personally vilified as pro-German. Instead, he contributed to groups sending anti-tsarist literature to Russian soldiers at the front.

    p.189/190:

    Kerensky also declared amnesty for overseas political refugees and legal equality for Russian Jews. This last point brought a quick response from Jacob Schiff, head of New York’s Kuhn Loeb banking house, who had used his fortune to protest Russia’s violent anti-Semitism, even to the extent of blocking war loans and funding anti-tsarist propaganda. Schiff now sent an urgent telegram to the Evening Post from White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia, where he was visiting, praising the new government and pledging financial support. “With the shackles removed from a great people,” he wrote, “Russia will before long take rank financially among the most favored nations in the money markets of the world.”

    p.320/321:

    What’s more, Schiff’s politics at that point directly opposed Trotsky’s. Schiff’s gripe against Russia had been its anti-Semitism. At home Schiff had never shown any sympathy for socialism, not even the milder Morris Hillquit variety. Schiff had declared victory for his purposes in Russia after the tsar was toppled in March 1917 and Alexander Kerensky, representing the new provisional government, had declared Jews to be equal citizens. In addition to repeated public statements of support, he used
    both his personal wealth and the resources of Kuhn Loeb to float large loans to Kerensky’s regime. When Lenin and Trotsky seized power for themselves in November 1917, Schiff immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, started funding anti-Bolshevist groups, and even demanded that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he’d loaned Kerensky.
    Schiff also joined a British-backed effort to appeal to fellow Jews in Russia to continue the fight against Germany

    Ackerman claims the military intelligence report you mentioned is nonsense and doesn’t contain any solid evidence for Schiff having supported the Bolsheviks.
    I have no way of evaluating that, but so far I remain unconvinced.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Ron Unz
  303. @German_reader

    ‘…According to Wikipedia Wickham-Steed wrote on July 31 1914 about efforts to stop British intervention in the approaching war that they were “a dirty German-Jewish international financial attempt to bully us into advocating neutrality”…’

    I think about all this demonstrates is that Wickham-Steed was pro-intervention — a perfectly defensible position.

    On the other hand, a war obviously could be catastrophic for international finance, and Jews in 1914 were indeed associated as much with Germany as they were with anyone else. What’s particularly damning about the remark? German Jewish financiers may well have been maneuvering to head off British intervention. It sounds both reasonable and patriotic to me. If I were a German Jewish financier in 1914, that’s what I would do. Why shouldn’t I — and why shouldn’t a pro-war Englishman view my activities as ‘dirty’?

  304. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz

    Shannon would probably have described himself as an “electrical engineer”, besides being not really lucid during the extremely brief portion of the 2000s through which he lived.

    But any experiences you had with him are very interesting.

  305. @German_reader

    ‘…The real fault lies with Britain, France and the US whose leaders believed their own demented propaganda about “German militarism” and who resisted every German attempt at bringing the war to an end via negotiations…’

    I think the whole subject of Germany in World War One — and in particular, of German willingness to end the war on reasonable terms starting in about 1916 — could do with some illumination.

    At the time, this was obscured by all the propaganda aimed at vilifying Germany — and certainly Germany was no more saintly than any of the other players. However, it all didn’t make for an accurate picture.

    Then — courtesy of the Third Reich — an anachronistic assumption now exists that if Germany was bad in World War Two, she must have been bad in World War One. This is exacerbated by the somewhat masochistic attitude of post-World War Two German historians, many of whom seem to regard it as their duty to exaggerate German guilt as far as possible and minimize German suffering as far as possible.

    Of course, at least with respect to World War One, this is all but nonsensical. Babi Yar does nothing to demonstrate that Germany was at fault in World War One, or that she rather than the Entente wasn’t the party most willing to come to terms in 1916-18. Nevertheless, it’s a real influence on perceptions of the situation.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    , @Anonymous
  306. Rurik says:
    @German_reader

    But extraordinary claims like “New York banker financed the Bolsheviks” require convincing evidence,

    what’s extraordinary is that something that has been common knowledge for decades (at least for me!), you consider an “extraordinary claim”.

    This

    In the February 3, 1949 issue of the New York Journal American Schiff’s grandson, John, was quoted by columnist Cholly Knickerbocker as saying that his grandfather had given about $20 million for the triumph of Communism in Russia. (To appraise Schiff’s motives for supporting the Bolsheviks, we must remember, that he was a Jew and that Russian Jews had been persecuted under the Tsarist regime. Consequently the Jewish community in America was inclined to support any movement, which sought to topple the Russian government and the Bolsheviks were excellent candidates for the task

    is from a link I posted in post 98

    http://www.wildboar.net/multilingual/easterneuropean/russian/literature/articles/whofinanced/whofinancedleninandtrotsky.html

    more here

    •Jacob Schiff and Federal Reserve founder Paul Warburg ran Kuhn, Loeb & Co. – the Rothschilds’ New York banking satellite. Schiff supplied $20 million in gold to Trotsky, who sailed from New York with 275 other terrorists on a passport obtained through pressure the bankers put on the Wilson administration.

    http://truthmegasite.com/the-bolshevik-revolution-in-russia-was-the-work-of-jewish-planning-and-jewish-dissatisfaction-our-plan-is-to-have-a-new-world-order/

    and it dovetails perfectly with the Benjamin Freedman speech in post 184.

    and more to the point, it dovetails with virtually everything we witness today about International Jewish supremacist treachery and designs. Specifically the destruction of Western civilization.

    Exactly as Churchill laid out in one of his speeches

    ” …the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all of them, have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

    President Wilson (who you should know of because he was the one whose treachery brought America into the war on Perfidious Albion’s side, and then created the ruse of his ‘Fourteen Points’ to trick Germany into disarming, before they starved Germany into accepting a blame for the war that wasn’t Germany’s. And crushing reparations under a cruel and depraved ((Weimar)) regime.

    How can it be that you’re not aware of any of that?

    Have they so shat in the German collective soul to the point that all that’s left is abased self-loathing and ignorance?

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @Anon
  307. @Anonymous

    No, today is the modern iteration.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  308. I imagine the Russians know more about these matters than most anyone else, given that they probably have access to their secret archives from the Soviet period.

    Perhaps they want revenge, which would explain why certain groups want a war between the US and Russia.

  309. anonymous[965] • Disclaimer says:

    Eisner. Thälmann. Something about those names …

  310. anonymous[965] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Oh yeah, Jews brought “reform” to Christianity all right. Read: https://forward.com/opinion/159955/converts-who-changed-the-church/

  311. Cyrano says:

    The main reason why the Bolshevik revolution failed was because of the cost overruns its launch had to be delayed for several weeks, thus instead of October revolution, in reality it became a November revolution.

    Some blame it on the fact that the Russians were using a wrong calendar. Wrong calendar my a**. When the revolutionaries received the money from the Jewish investors, instead of launching the revolution on time, they probably got their hands on some large quantities of vodka and forgot all about the revolution.

    From that point on, not only the Gregorian calendar couldn’t save the revolution anymore, but even Gregorian chants wouldn’t have helped any. The shareholders lost faith in the IPO, the value of the revolution stocks plummeted forcing the investors to withdraw their money, resulting in total disaster where the revolution degenerated into a civil war and never got its footing back. Moral of the story – don’t mess with Jewish investors.

  312. renfro says:
    @utu

    How fortunes are made—-some Bolsheviks pirated a lot of jewels and art when they fled Russia. There was an article in Art World several years ago where Jews were claiming some paintings that were actually stolen from a Russian noble family during the Bolshevik revolution —-in a rare incident of justice the court awarded the paintings to the Russian grandson.

    No. 26. Mr. Alston to Earl Curzon.— (Received January 25.) (Telegraphic.) • Vladivostock,
    January 23, 1919. FOLLOWING from High Commissioner : — ” Following statements respecting Bolsheviks in Perm and neigh- bourhood are taken from reports sent by His Majesty’s consul at Ekaterinburg. The Omsk Government have similar information : —

    ”Within three days of the arrival of the Austrian army in Odessa, the Russian Bolshevik troops fled at the approach of the Austnans. The Black Sea fleet left the morning Odessa was surrendered. Some of the ships were so heavily laden with plunder they could scarcely make way. A large proportion of the worst Bolshevik criminals of the district, together with the more notorious bands of assassins and highwaymen, escaped with the fleet.

  313. @Colin Wright

    There’s a recent book by WW1 historian Holger Afflerbach (Auf Messers Schneide. Wie das Deutsche Reich den Ersten Weltkrieg verlor) which is somewhat revisionist and among other issues deals extensively with German attempts at bringing about peace negotiations in WW1.
    So far there seems to be only a German version, but I expect there’ll be an English translation eventually.

  314. utu says:
    @German_reader

    From Kenneth D. Ackerman website: https://kennethackerman.com

    A big thank you to the American Jewish Press Association for awarding me its 2018 Rockower award, first place, for Journalistic Excellence in American Jewish History – for my article on Leon Trotsky in the B’nai Brith magazine.

    My grandmother, Ides Bronfeld, surrounded by children (standing from left) Hinda Ethel, Sura (Sally), Al, Herzek (Benny), and Marge (in her lap), taken in Zawichost, Poland, circa 1926.
    My grandmother, Ides Bronfeld, with children (from left) Hinda Ethel, Sura (Sally), Al, Herzek (Benny), and Marge (on lap), in Zawichost, Poland, 1926. In mid-1920, my grandfather, Rubin Mendel Bronfeld, abruptly left the small town in southern Poland his family had called home for generations, Zawichost, to escape peaking violent upheaval sparked by anti-Semitic riots and the invasion of Poland that year by Bolshevik Russia.

    At the same Horse Radish Covertime, our own Viral History Press was recently proud to publish Horse Radish: Jewish Roots, my Aunt Rachel Farber’s poignant, funny, brutally frank memoir of the Ackerman side of the family and its immigrant experience, from their own tiny Poland/Russia village of Madle-Borzyce to busy early-Twentieth Century America, to marriage, heartache, and finding peace amid chaos.

    http://coffeewithken.blogspot.com/2010/02/official-slanderer.html
    Looking to find one emblemmatic villain behind America’s decision to slam its doors against immigrant refugees in the early 1920s — especially Jewish people from Eastern Europe like my grandparents for whom failure to escape would mean death in the Holocaust? Look no further than this man: Brigadeer General Marlborough Churchill, head of American Military Intelligence (MID) from 1918 through 1920. During this time, Churchill’s MID generated a parade of reports painting Jews as undesirables, subversives, and Reds, as slanted as any Anti-Semitic propagrada of the era.

    These became the chief ammunition xenophobic Congressmen used to justify imposing quotas in 1921 and 1924 designed to block all but a tiny trickle of immigrants, aimed primarily at Jews and Italians. Italy, which sent over 270,000 to Ellis Island in 1913, was restricted after 1924 to 3,845 per year. Poland, which had sent 174,000 — including about 100,000 Jews — was cut to 5,982 per year.

    Both these missions led Churchill and MID to focus on The Jews. It is alarming that today there survives a thick file of memos written by MID under General Churchill containing a barriage of slanders against Jews people as a group. They focus on Eastern Europeans but include surveillance of Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, financiers Paul Warburg and Jacob Schiff, and western Zionist leaders Chiam Weizman and Theoodore Herzl. The reports finger Jews as instigators of the Bolshevik Revolution and rulers of the Western Press, a secret conspiracy ready to subvert any country. They describe Jewish people as personally filthy and non-hygenic and, if allowed into the US, “a serious menace to our civilization.”

    Listen, German_reader, be more critical of your sources and their motives. Read his web page.

    • LOL: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @German_reader
  315. renfro says:
    @German_reader

    I can’t think of any plausible reason why Schiff would have supported the Bolsheviks (apart from completely irrational hatred of Russia…or did he want to support his old home country Germany in WW1 and help Russia knock out of the war?). If he had wanted to make Russia ripe for exploitation by Jewish finance as Unz seems to insinuate with his vague hints about “Jewish exploitation”, there surely would have been more fitting ways than supporting communist revolution.

    You don’t get it……Jewish Communism is and always has been a ‘facade’ for plundering the nations. Even in communism you have a Ruler or Rulers, a favored class (those who support the rulers) and then all the rest are peasants. To see how this communist class system worked under the Bolsheviks read thru these reports …..

    https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028404519/cu31924028404519_djvu.txt

  316. JackOH says:

    I haven’t been following much of the comment here too closely. But, isn’t it safe to say the guy who donates $10 to Lenin in 1910 may have multiple motives, and even if one of those is strictly revolutionary and not, say. the seeking of commercial advantage, the revolution he’s supporting exists only in his mind’s eye at the time he donates. He’s donating to the revolution he imagines in 1910, not the murderfest as known by the 1930s.

    Plus, motives are altered during the course of an action as reality buffets one’s actions or desires.

    History is lived forward, historiography written backward, and so on.

  317. Mike P says:
    @Rurik

    How can it be that you’re not aware of any of that?

    Have they so shat in the German collective soul to the point that all that’s left is abased self-loathing and ignorance?

    Yes. German school education is still half-way decent, but history instruction consists only of holocaust, more holocaust, and yet more holocaust.

  318. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Mike P

    “you do that for him… You could get rich!”

    Get rich? Tell me more.

    I edited many people over several decades, and made a living, but no fortune, that’s for sure.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @Mike P
  319. @utu

    Well, he seems to be an ethnocentric Jew whining about US immigration restriction, certainly not someone I would have any sympathy for, and I would never have looked at his book if it hadn’t been mentioned here. But that’s irrelevant for the issue of Jacob Schiff’s alleged support for the Bolsheviks in 1917-1919…imo so far no solid evidence for it has been adduced here. Maybe Ron Unz or some other commenter will eventually provide it. Until then there’s not much point in continuing this discussion.

    • Replies: @utu
  320. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @Winnetou1889

    Okay, I thought I understood, but now I am more confused. What then was going on then?

    • Replies: @Winnetou1889
  321. Ron Unz says:
    @German_reader

    Schiff had declared victory for his purposes in Russia after the tsar was toppled in March 1917 and Alexander Kerensky, representing the new provisional government, had declared Jews to be equal citizens.

    Look, the 1917 political situation was certainly far more fluid and complex than as seen in hindsight…

    Bear in mind, that the Bolsheviks back then were far less heavily Jewish than the Mensheviks, and that unlike Lenin, Trotsky was both Jewish and had also been a top leader of the 1905 Revolution that Schiff had heavily backed. I wouldn’t be surprised if Schiff only had a vague idea of who Lenin was at that point, and there probably wasn’t any strong reason for him to be hostile to Kerensky, who was known to be quite friendly towards Jews. Furthermore, Trotsky was then very hostile to Lenin and his Bolsheviks.

    During 1917, Trotsky and apparently a large group of Jewish revolutionaries traveled from NYC to Russia to participate in the revolutionary ferment, and I think it’s perfectly plausible that Schiff would have provided them with the very substantial financial backing that numerous sources later allege. My impression is that Schiff was just throwing money at lots of different revolutionary Russian factions, and Trotsky’s Jewish background, his presence in NYC, and his top 1905 role would have made him a natural candidate for support. I don’t recall any evidence that Trotsky was anti-Kerensky at that point. There certainly aren’t any historical claims that Schiff backed Lenin as opposed to Trotsky.

    However, once Trotsky and all those other Jewish revolutionaries from NYC got to Russia, they soon joined forces with Lenin and became a crucial part of his enlarged Bolshevik movement. Whether Schiff knew or cared about any of that complex political situation in Russia is unclear to me.

    After the Bolshevik Revolution of Lenin and Trotsky was successful, Ackerman claims that Schiff cut off support, which may or may not be accurate. I looked at the Schiff autobiography that Ackerman cites, and the picture it presents seems far more ambiguous and self-serving, both on Schiff’s part and that of his (Jewish) exculpatory biographer, who spends pages denouncing the “anti-Semitic conspiracy theories” that were so widely reported in the publications of that era. It’s clear that in 1917-1918 Schiff was very worried about being too closely identified in America with the bloodthirsty Bolsheviks.

    Offhand, I don’t see any reason why Schiff would have favored Lenin over Kerensky. If Kerensky had won, Wickham Steed would surely have (accurately) later reported that Schiff was a key backer of Kerensky. But since Lenin and Trotsky won, he became a key backer of the Bolsheviks.

  322. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Then — courtesy of the Third Reich — an anachronistic assumption now exists that if Germany was bad in World War Two, she must have been bad in World War One.

    Germany was also willing to end World War Two on reasonable terms.

    • Replies: @Bukowski
  323. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheOldOne

    Did Solzhenitsyn dedicate a commentary to the Protocols? Are you thinking instead of 200 Years Together?

    Is it true that Solzhenitsyn’s wife was Jewish? Does that lend any of his perspectives on these subjects more credibility?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  324. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In the Sixth Congress of the Bolshevik Russian Social Democratic Labor Party and its Central Committee elected in August 1917, we find that five of the committee’s 21 members were Jewish. This included Trotsky, Zinoviev, Moisei Uritsky, Sverdlov and Grigori Sokolnikov.

    What was the representation of fully ethnic Russians?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  325. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    Why did he get involved at all in the Russo-Japanese war?

  326. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    My comment yesterday was rude. Sorry. But your article was long and it could have been at least slightly shorter and sharper.

    As for the first and second sections of the article, which you acknowledge to be inessential, they are of interest in themselves, but they make for a piece almost as long as one finds in publications such as the Atlantic Monthly or the New Yorker, publications I have long avoided because they require commitment of too much of my one and only life to the assimilation of what could usually be presented, in essence, in no more than a few hundred words.

    Thus, yesterday, both exhausted and exasperated by the time I reached your reference to the “Red scare,” I abandoned the piece, which however, I have managed to complete reading today. Your conclusion that those who hold that Jews — the adherents of a racially supremacist ideology, engage in group collaboration to exploit the host society — are essentially correct is not earth shaking. Indeed, it is probably the view of any reasonably well-informed gentile. We know that Jews play a major role in pornography, gambling, and the creation of a society enslaved by debt. So the key question is not how the big Jews behave, we know how they behave, but how to restrain their behavi0r.

    Promoting anti-Semitism, which is loudly expressed on this site, seems entirely counterproductive. It creates the antagonism that justifies the exploitation, whereas what is required is to allow what in an atheistic age is the natural process of assimilation to take place.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Ron Unz
    , @Anon
    , @renfro
  327. Anon[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    He certainly was opposed to the Czarist system

    What’s evidence do you have to support that?

  328. Mike P says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I was thinking along these lines:

    http://regender.com/

    If you use that website as a proxy to view another:

    http://regender.com/swap/http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/genesis/documents/bible_genesis_en.html

    You get stuff like:

    [1:1] In the beginning when Goddess created the heavens and the earth,
    [1:2] the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from Goddess swept over the face of the waters.

    So you see, regender.com rewrites the Genesis on the fly. You could use this approach to give the web a Strunkian cleansing – just a thought ;)

  329. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @cassandra

    After all, ethnic Lithuanian Dzerzhinsky

    Are you certain Dzerzhinsky wasn’t of at least partial Jewish background. (As a youth, he was fluent in Yiddish.)

    In any case, it is very interesting that so many of these leaders were NOT ethnic Russians.

    • Replies: @cassandra
  330. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Probably more than the zero Jews after 1921, 1 year before the USSR actually had its Treaty of Creation.

  331. utu says:
    @German_reader

    What does your source Ackerman mean by this statement:

    It is alarming that today there survives a thick file of memos written by MID under General Churchill containing a barriage of slanders against Jews people as a group.

    That Jews would be better off if the “thick file” did not survive? Is this the attitude you expect in a historian? Yes, this is exactly an attitude you expect in historians who writes to do the whitewash job. This is what you expect from Jewish self-appointed historian engaged in ethnic activism.

    Wouldn’t you like to know what was in this file? Especially concerning Jacob Schiff?

    They focus on Eastern Europeans but include surveillance of Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, financiers Paul Warburg and Jacob Schiff, and western Zionist leaders Chiam Weizman and Theoodore Herzl. The reports finger Jews as instigators of the Bolshevik Revolution and rulers of the Western Press, a secret conspiracy ready to subvert any country.

    Would you expect Ackerman of whom you know is Jewish ethnic activist to analyze these documents? Or rather he would dismiss them as signs of some mental anti-Semitic paranoia that for no reason at all afflicted Brigadier General Marlborough Churchill?

  332. Heros says:

    The Schiff family lived with the Rothschilds in Frankfurt, and Jacob Schiff was an agent of the Rothschilds in the US. Likely, there are also blood lines joining the families.

    Adam Weishaupt, supposed founder of the Illuminati, which later took over the Grand Orient Lodge of France, was a Rothschild agent. The Jacobins were the tools of this Rothschild/illuminati/masonic plot to overthrow Louis XVI.

    Enter Kerensky:

    “active member of the irregular freemasonic lodge, the Grand Orient of Russia’s Peoples, which derived from the Grand Orient of France. Kerensky was Secretary General of the Grand Orient of Russia’s Peoples and stood down following his ascent to government in July 1917.”

    Kerensky was merely a place holder until the craft could get the true designated mason leader of the revolution in place. This is similar to how GWB was a set up for Obama. The Russian Revolution was infested with freemasons, like the French Revolution and the American War of Northern Aggression. The people who were really creating and manipulating the narrative to create these events are rarely mentioned, because what they did was secret.

    Historians search official written documents to unravel history. Secret societies have been hiding the true history from “historians” for centuries. Historians cannot see the truth.

  333. goyerrant says:

    Amazing, Mr. Unz, really amazing. I am deeply impressed by your insight and accuracy. Let’s look at a small example:

    Trotsky and a large fraction of the leading Jewish revolutionaries had been living as exiles in New York City, and now many of their Jewish cousins still resident in America began loudly proclaiming that a similar revolution would soon follow here as well.

    In fact, Trotsky arrived in New York on January the 13th, 1917, directly from Barcelona (Spain). He left for Halifax, Canada, on his way to Russia, on March the 27th, same year.

    I’m afraid that if you keep walking this path you’ll ultimately find yourself giving the nazi salute and screaming “Mein Führer, I can walk!”

    And Ron, a last remark, as the ancient Romans said, Roma traditoribus non praemiat.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  334. Thirdeye says:
    @Cyrano

    There’s a gap to fill in between Schiff, Warburg et al. financing the Russian revolutions of 1905 and 1917 and them financing the October revolution, which would validate the thesis that they financed the Bolsheviks. The 1905 and February 1917 revolutions were led by Mensheviks following a Social Democrat strategy. The Bolsheviks were marginalized in both cases and their leaders were imprisoned after the February revolution. Jews didn’t have a dog in the fight as far as Bolshevik or Menshevik rule was concerned. Their enemy the Tsar was gone from power and Jews were prominent within the Menshevik faction and the Kadets as they were within the Bolsheviks. American Jewish bankers might actually have preferred the Mensheviks for maintaining a capitalist economy. Germany, however, wanted Russia to quit the war and the Mensheviks were not doing that. Spiriting Lenin back into Russia from Switzerland and supporting the Bolsheviks against the Mensheviks was their strategy to get Russia out of the war. Germany’s role in supporting the October revolution is definite; the foreign Jewish role is iffy.

    IMO Jewish affinity for dissident movements is a thing of the past. It was in their interests to support them when they were outsiders excluded from power structures. Now they are firmly ensconced in the power structure and are arguably at the top of the power structure. What passes for support from the power structure for dissidents is actually co-optation to prevent dissent from threatening the status quo, which suits Jews just fine, thank you.

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
  335. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Promoting anti-Semitism, which is loudly expressed on this site, seems entirely counterproductive. It creates the antagonism that justifies the exploitation, whereas what is required is to allow what in an atheistic age is the natural process of assimilation to take place.

    CanSpeccy’s plan:

    (1) First of all we must avoid anti-Semitism because this may upset the Jews. Let’s do not talk about Jews.

    (2) Abandon Christian faith and any religion and become atheists and pray (to whom?) that Jews will embrace atheism as much as you do.

    Why would you expect that Jews would assimilate to your atheism instead of absorbing you into their atheism that requires a belief in their supremacy? Jan Hus and Martin Luther were motivated by the prospect of changing Christianity to be more palatable to Jews so they would convert and assimilate. It did not happened. Martin Luther felt very betrayed so he became an outspoken anti-Semite later in life.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  336. @utu

    What does your source Ackerman mean by this statement:

    I’m not sure, but I’d suppose he finds it alarming that eeeeeevil WASPs like Marlborough Churchill held such horrible antisemitic “prejudices” back in the early 1920s. I don’t think he means that this military intelligence file should be destroyed.
    Anyway, this Ackerman guy with his ethnocentric bias might of course misrepresent the content of this military intelligence file…I have no idea. Neither do you, unless you look it up in the archives. All I wanted to state is that I don’t find the arguments for Schiff’s alleged support of the Bolsheviks adduced here convincing. I just don’t see the solid proof, and without that making a big deal about Schiff’s alleged role seems rather pointless to me.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @utu
    , @Anonymous
    , @utu
  337. Anonymous[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Are these files anywhere available for review?

  338. @Thirdeye

    The detail you left out is that the apparent originator of the plot to send Lenin to Russia was one Alexander Parvus. It was he who is said to have persuaded the Germans to send Lenin to Russia. And Parvus was an old friend of Trotsky.

    http://spartacus-educational.com/Alexander_Parvus.htm

    • Replies: @Thirdeye
  339. Mike P says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Tried to reply earlier, but it was apparently scrubbed.

    The idea is to create a proxy web server that inserts itself between the client (your browser) and the web page of interest (in this case, unz.com). It rewrites the page on the fly – in our hypothetical case, by removing all verbiage frowned upon by Mr. Strunk – and shows you the modified version.

    In my first reply, I had linked some working online example, but it seems the somewhat childish humour of that example did not make it past the moderator.

  340. @Heros

    I’ve come to believe that the “6 million” tales we’ve heard so much are just cover and deflection for the very real dozens of millions of Whites killed by Jews.

  341. Rurik says:
    @German_reader

    All I wanted to state is that I don’t find the arguments for Schiff’s alleged support….

    .. as adequately impugning the character of the German people, who as we all know were responsible not just for Bolshevism and both World Wars, but also for gassing six millions Jews and making soap and lampshades out of their body parts.

    As a member in perpetual good standing with the ((narrative)), and having been excoriated to wallow in guilt and self-abasement all my life, I consider it viscerally intolerable to even contemplate the idea that we German people are anything other than a congenitally evil people, and deserve the well-earned contempt of the entire world, and for whom, our only salvation is prostrating ourselves and our nation, our heritage and our ancestors, and heaping endless scorn on them all, while simultaneously participating in a modern day genocide in Palestine, by funding and arming the white supremacists that are murdering and maiming the innocent men, women and children in their own lands.

    Only by our abased servitude to genocidal Jewish supremacists, can we ever expunge the terrible guilt of our vile race, and seek redemption for our congenital sins, that we will forever teach our children to despise themselves for- and us, their parents and elders, for ever and all time.

    Huh?

    One wonders.. when enough Muslims and Africans descend upon Germany, and alter for eternity the German race into a mongrelized heap of identity-less losers, will the Germans (whatever that will mean) still self-flagellate when they’re more Turkish than Teutonic?

    Somehow I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  342. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    It is alarming that today there survives a thick fileof memos written by MID under General Churchill containing a barriage of slanders against Jews people as a group….The reports finger Jews as instigators of the Bolshevik Revolution and rulers of the Western Press, a secret conspiracy ready to subvert any country.

    Ha, ha, ha—great find! Such an objective historical scholar! Presumably, once those documents no longer “survive” some other writer can come along and claim that they never existed in the first place, and were merely another hoax.

    • Replies: @utu
  343. utu says:
    @German_reader

    Anyway, this Ackerman guy with his ethnocentric bias might of course misrepresent the content of this military intelligence file…I have no idea. Neither do you, unless you look it up in the archives.

    You are right but your argument is based on some fallacy because it appeals to a perfect nonexistent world where everything is knowable and verifiable. In that perfect world the rule “beyond a reasonable doubt” would not be permitted and 90% accused would walk free. You are not arguing in a good faith I am afraid. I understand that the heat of argument makes anybody dig their grounds but I do not understand why you put so much heart into this particular issue to argue in the first place. Do you think Jews are lacking a soft power so you decided to lend a helping hand? Why did you decide to look for a crack in Ron Unz narrative? Why don’t you say openly that Ron Unz anti-Semitic and anti-Judaism bothers you, that you can’t handle it. Did you ever put similar amount of energy in contesting and arguing a case when Germany and Germans were accused unjustly for something? I doubt basing on your past performance here at UR.

    • Replies: @iffen
  344. Ron Unz says:
    @CanSpeccy

    what could usually be presented, in essence, in no more than a few hundred words.

    Somehow I suspect that if my article discussing The International Jew and the Protocols in other than purely denunciatory fashion had just been “a few hundred words” long, it might have lacked sufficient nuance, and therefore been subject to very serious misinterpretation…

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @JackOH
  345. Parfois says:
    @gmachine1729

    Thank you for your comment/clarification. I found Ron’s articles having an immoderate amount of worn out clichés when it comes to characterizing the two men who had the greatest impact in the XX Century, Stalin and Mao. He admits himself that he has learned a lot since his formative years and I say ‘good and well for the effort but there is a lot more to learn, starting with discarding the memes and clichés that shaped your worldview’. Repeating the same narrative “… Stalin killed (insert your favourite number) million people… ” and “… Mao killed (insert the number of your choice) million people…” has the only effect of diminishing the credibility of the narrator. All one has to do to debunk these propaganda lies is to check the demographic records and see the implausibility of the figures bundied about by the propaganda agents, starting with the acclaimed Oxford historian – and “expert on Stalin” – Robert Conquest who picked up the 60 million score for Stalin in ‘The Great Terror’ but years later had a pang of conscience and generously decided to reduce the tally to 20 million.

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
  346. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:

    FYI

    Here’s Simon Jones’ take on The Protocols from an old Dissident Voice article he did back in 2003 shortly after the invasion of Iraq: ‘The Protocols – a Neocon Manifesto’

    http://dissidentvoice.org/Articles7/Jones_Protocols-Neocons.htm

    It’s a good, quick intro to some of the major themes, for those who don’t want to read the whole thing.

  347. Ron Unz says:
    @goyerrant

    In fact, Trotsky arrived in New York on January the 13th, 1917, directly from Barcelona (Spain). He left for Halifax, Canada, on his way to Russia, on March the 27th, same year.

    Well, considering that Ackerman fellow wrote an entire 400 page book about Trotsky’s time in NYC, I do think he was actually “living there” at the time, and the impression his Wikipedia article conveys is that he might have remained there for quite some time, perhaps even indefinitely if not for the opportunity afforded by the February Revolution to return home to Russia.

    Indeed, the presence of Trotsky and numerous other future Bolshevik leaders and activists in that city was so under-emphasized or ignored in the standard texts I originally read 30-40 years ago, that I’d been almost entirely unaware of it until I came across the material on the Internet a few years ago. One might suspect that the crucial need to avoid any hint of the apparent Schiff funding was a major reason for such a strange omission.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
  348. Ron Unz says:
    @Anonymous

    Is it true that Solzhenitsyn’s wife was Jewish? Does that lend any of his perspectives on these subjects more credibility?

    That’s an interesting question. I could swear I always used to read the claim that Solzhenitsyn’s wife was Jewish in the MSM during the height of his fame 30-40 years ago, and had been planning to mention it, but when I went back a couple of weeks ago and searched around on the Internet, I found no plausible trace whatsoever. At least it’s nice to know that I didn’t simply imagine the whole thing…

  349. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    Presumably, once those documents no longer “survive” some other writer can come along and claim that they never existed in the first place, and were merely another hoax.

    I belief that sanitization of archives and documents has always been done and is done all the time. A motivated “researcher” or just a regular library patron equipped with a razor would do the job. I believe that Jews indeed are very motivated. Even in relatively trivial case like the priority dispute between Einstein and Hilbert. Somebody cut out with a razor the equation in printer’s proofs of Hilbert’s paper. The equation that could settle the debate in favor of Hilbert.

    http://www.znaturforsch.com/aa/v59a/s59a0715.pdf
    In a paper, published in 1997 by L. Corry, J. Renn, and J. Stachel, it is claimed that the recently dis- covered printer’s proofs of Hilbert’s 1915 paper on the general theory of relativity prove that Hilbert did not anticipate Einstein in arriving at the correct form of the gravitational field equations, as it is widely believed, but that only after having seen Einstein’s final paper did Hilbert amend his published version with the correct form of the gravitational field equations. However, because a crucial part of the printer’s proofs of Hilbert’s paper had been cut off by someone, a fact not mentioned in the paper by Corry, Renn, and Stachel, the conclusion drawn by Corry, Renn, and Stachel is untenable and has no probative value. I rather will show that the cut off part of the proofs suggests a crude attempt by some unknown individual to falsify the historical record.

  350. Anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution

    What role did it play in the French Revolution?

  351. iffen says:
    @utu

    You are not arguing in a good faith I am afraid.

    You should know.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  352. @Anonymous

    One other related maneuver that is underway is that the Jews are giving Muslims territory in Europe and the United States in exchange for the Jews’ having taken Palestine. It’s a form of pacification, of letting the pressure out.

    I’d take this idea seriously if the Muslims were being shipped out from the West Bank and Gaza, because this would clearly be in Israel’s interests. In fact the migrants are coming from far and wide.

    If you are looking for a villain lurking in the background, try Saudi Arabia. One of the State Department memos in Wikileaks suggested that Saudi government policy was to encourage the migration of Sunni Muslims to the developed world, and radicalize Sunnis worldwide (except in Saudi Arabia itself).

    • Replies: @Anon
  353. Anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    What would be significant about Schiff having financed the Bolsheviks versus any other revolutionary group in Russia?

  354. Interestingly, Dr. William Luther Pierce also believed The Protocols were a forgery, but a mostly accurate depiction of Jewish desire. This is his interpretation -

  355. refl says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    On the site I mentioned the basical course of events is about this: a certain British elite, known as Milner’s kindergarden planed for the destruction of Germany since about 1904 (note: destruction, not merely defeat). The crises preceding WWI in this sense amount to a Setup. Destruction meant a prolonged war. Therefore it was provided that the naval blockade was a sham up to about mid 1916. Britain took care that Germany could fight on. Basic war material got past the blockade and Germany recieved food via Belgian Relief (note its director Herbert Hoover).
    To fight Germany, Russia was needed. Therefore Britain needed Turkey to enter the war on the german side. As the remains of the Otoman Empire were to be dismantled – and yes, this included Palestine for the Jews – it was vital Turkey should loose the war alongside Germany.
    And now the trick about Gallipoli: This was a landing operation run by the british navy, bypassing the command of the army (whose chief, Lord Kitchener ended up dead at the time of the cover up). Gallipoli in this view was designed to fail, but nonetheless to impress the Russians, who at that time were believed to be on the point of entering a separate peace with Germany.
    Once the US were in the war – basically to save the money thrown in by Wall Street – and once the Balfour declaration had been made, it was time to drop the czar and give Germany a victory in the east which would drain it to exhaustion and give it thousands of revolutionaries which would be liberated POWs.
    Russia was meant to be destroyed before any obligation from treaty whatsoever might come into force.
    The game was to let Germany and Russia destroy each other and to integrate the english speaking nations as rulers of the world.

    This is somewhat the essential story which is being told in that aforementioned blog which has been spanning weekly installments for the last four years.

    You see, all wars are economic wars, and so You might say that the outcome of WWI was decided with the foundation of the Fed in 1913.

    You might read some of it and in fact it might merit some promotion in the Unz Review. Firstworldwarhiddenhistory by Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgegor.

    • Replies: @Molecule
  356. @Ron Unz

    Perhaps all these documents on the Internet were created by SkyNet to sow dissension among us!

  357. @Jon Halpenny

    It has been speculated Britain deliberately botched the Gallipoli campaign.

    It is an interesting theory, but as the linked article states,

    My detractors on this issue, however, tell me I should never dismiss incompetence in military defeats.

    The article goes on to question “puzzling or incomprehensible” decisions and events. However, World War I has no shortage of these. The Battle of the Somme took 20,000 allied lives on its first day, and ended with more than half a million allied dead or wounded. From the perspective of the present it is hard to comprehend the sheer callousness of commanders and politicians who expended so many lives for so little gain.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  358. @Parfois

    Really, Robert Conquest chose 60 million for Stalin in his book? How do you even kill 60 million people in a nation of 200 million. Sadly though, this tactic overdone mostly works. Most people are that naive. And they can always defend with, “you’re an apologist for a mass murdering dictator!” That’s the atmosphere of hysteric political correctness in the US that the likes of Conquest have manufactured, plausibly with CIA backing.

  359. @James N. Kennett

    The Somme isn’t that difficult to understand.

    To begin with casualties on the Western Front were persistently high even in the absence of great offensives.

    Then there’s the natural optimism bias–the persistent idea that one big push could win the war. Aside from brief windows in 1914 and the spring of 1918, the Entente generally had numerical superiority on the Western Front and naturally sought to exploit it. Just as the Germans did during their brief windows of opportunity (more successfully).

    Tragically, there was also the simple matter that the British Army wasn’t tactically proficient until 1917.

  360. Anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    The chances that German_reader is a goy are slim. This particular “reader” is aggressively uninterested in absorbing inconvenient (for the Tribe) knowledge.

  361. Anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    I’d take this idea seriously if the Muslims were being shipped out from the West Bank and Gaza, because this would clearly be in Israel’s interests. In fact the migrants are coming from far and wide.

    Muslim resistance to Zionism comes from “far and wide”. Witness the origins of the 9/11 hijackers and masterminds. It includes Palestinians AND their Arab and Muslim brethren, especially those in the surrounding neighborhood.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  362. Dan Hayes says:
    @Ron Unz

    Richard Grenier writing in the New York Times in 1985 (“Solzhenitsyn and Anti-Semitism: A New Debate”) stated that Solzhenitsyn’s (second) wife, Natalia, was half-Jewish.

    I am vaguely under the impression from Joseph Pearce’s biography (“Solzhenitsyn: A Soul in Exile”) that his wife adopted Christianity after meeting Solzhenitsyn.

  363. Svigor says:
    @Wally

    Like I said, lunatic. :D

  364. Svigor says:
    @gsjackson

    *Reads Protocols*

    “Yeah but where’s the lie?”

  365. iffen says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Facts, smacks. Stop trying to fornicate with the narrative.

  366. Svigor says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Supposedly the British supplied the White Russian forces with 600,000 rifles amongst other things, but, otherwise, it seems that you’re right. The allied intervention was pretty weak. I would say that it amounted to rather more than Schiff’s moneylending though.

    This website also claims that only 1.5% of Bolshevik party members on the eve of the revolution were known to be Jewish. Does anyone know of any membership list?

    I jumped into this thing in the middle, so forgive me if I’m missing the context: did you just suggest that $2 billion (the aforementioned inflation-adjusted value of $2 million back then, which I’ll accept for purposes of argument) is less than 600k rifles? Cuz if you’re buying in bulk, you can get 600k rifles for like $200 a pop or something*, so we’re talking like $120m at today’s prices. Not that the Brits were donating at that price point – really it depends on the rifles in question. It’s probably fair to assume they were surplus the Brits had lying around and were looking to get rid of.

    *you can actually get a much nicer rifle near that price-point today (infl. adj.) than you could then, but still…

    Then there’s the fact that I’d much rather have 100k rifles and a bunch of ammo for them than 600k rifles and no ammo, and if I already had enough rifles and ammo, I’d much rather have the $120 million (never mind $2 billion) than any amount of rifles or ammo…

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  367. Seraphim says:
    @jilles dykstra

    A book you would hardly find is:

    Netchvolodow A. – L’Empereur Nicolas II et les Juifs
    Essais sur la révolution russe dans ses rapports avec l’activité universelle du Judaïsme contemporain
    Traduction du Russe par I. M. Narischkina – Paris : Chiron, 1924

    Many data about the role of Jacob Schiff by a contemporary.

  368. Svigor says:
    @Zimriel

    Yeah but if true you have to wonder “who taught Napoleon his tricks?”

  369. @Dan Hayes

    His beloved second wife is half-Jewish, and so is his friend Alek sandr Ginzburg, though both are Christian converts.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  370. Svigor says:
    @Anon

    Much of the problem with Jacob Schiff and his ilk is that he actually thought the ‘socialist utopia’ was achievable. He believed all the propaganda. When he was donating his money, he had no clue the communist takeover would turn out to be a bloody failure detested by the Russian people who lived all their lives under the system, although there was certainly a strong element of “Let’s get revenge on the Tsar and his ilk for treating us like animals,” in Schiff’s thinking.

    I don’t see much difference between them and the ilk who actually made the “socialist utopia” into a “bloody failure” with their own two hands…

    Much of what Jews have been trying to do in politics during the 20th century is idealistic lever-pulling by men with too much Asperger’s disorder to understand human nature, and who keep thinking that if you unleash the dark side of the human personality, everything will turn out all right.

    This seems like projection (or designed to appeal to that tendency). Jews have a very convenient form of “Aspergers” that, instead of seeking consistency, consistently papers over inconsistency. GLARING, IMPOSSIBLE-TO-MISS inconsistencies like being the world’s foremost anti-colonialists when it comes to the white goyim, and the world’s foremost colonialists when it comes to the Jewish state.

    White men project autism onto the Jews because most white men can understand autism, but not Jews – I think it’s something else. The “Jewish babe in the woods” thing doesn’t work, IMO. I’ve stood there and waved the truth under too many Jews’ noses and watched them dismiss it without a further thought to believe that explanation. Jews’ ignorance is far too STUDIOUS.

  371. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    And as soon as apartheid ended the Jews ran to Israel, Australia, America, New Zealand. Etc. Hypocrites. Also drained money out of South Africa illegally in the billions of rands. Nice try

  372. @Ron Unz

    Speaking of Ford did you know he built a factory in the Soviet Union? Antony C. Sutton is a guy you should look up Unz. He basically argued the SU was a giant factory for corporations to experiment and to make a money. Ford, Fred Koch and many others helped build Soviet industry.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

  373. Also:

    His beloved second wife is half-Jewish, and so is his friend Aleksandr Ginzburg, though both are Christian converts.

    Book review by Sidney Monas, The Russian Review, Vol. 44, No. 4 (Oct., 1985), p. 400

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/129792

    On the other hand, Natalia Solzhenitsyn is half-Jewish; one American Jew who deals frequently with Solzhenitsyn says he has never detected a “whisper” of anti-Semitism in the man; and a number of prominent scholars, including Commentary’s Norman Podhoretz, have defended him against the charge.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1987/11/24/solzhenitsyn-and-his-message-of-silence/73dd0437-69a1-4579-8a24-22d7daa1a818/?utm_term=.c3859540cb95

    • Replies: @annamaria
  374. Anon 2 says:

    Russia wanted an empire, and now is being punished for its greed. The Russian Federation is currently 14% Muslim, a much higher percentage than for any other industrialized country (e.g., only 2-3% in the U.S.), and rising every year. “Pride goeth before a fall” (adapted from Proverbs 16). Russia reached its peak in the late 19th century, an imperial overstretch if there ever was any, and very predictably has been in decline ever since. The Russian Empire in the late 19th century was a prison of nations (Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, …), all yearning to break free from the Russian oppression. In the course of time they have. This is what delusions of grandeur – a small ethnic Russian population trying to rule a ridiculously large territory – always lead to. Metaphorically speaking, there is a price to be paid for selling your soul to the devil.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @annamaria
  375. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Even though communism was about the working class, it seems many Eastern European Jews joined communism because of the indignity of having been forced to join the working classes. Many Jews in Pale of Settlement didn’t have the economic opportunities of Jews in the West. By joining the communist movement, they hoped to rise up the ladder and work as commissars(white collar job) than toil in factories.

    Among Western Jews, communism was maybe a way to break out of the cycle that Karl Marx wrote of in relation to Jews. Jews are drawn to capitalism, and that makes Jews acquisitive, and that makes non-Jews hate Jews. So, the only way to break the cycle of hatred between Jews and non-Jews, capitalism had to go, and the economy has to be centrally controlled.

    • Replies: @Thirdeye
  376. Ron Unz says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Richard Grenier writing in the New York Times in 1985 (“Solzhenitsyn and Anti-Semitism: A New Debate”) stated that Solzhenitsyn’s (second) wife, Natalia, was half-Jewish.

    Thanks. I’m sure this article and some of the others people located were among those I saw at the time, which stuck in my memory. It’s a sign of my poor Googling skills that I spent five or ten minutes hunting around, and couldn’t find anything except from very “fringe” sources.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  377. Thirdeye says:
    @Jon Halpenny

    Perhaps an interesting detail, but it doesn’t change the thrust of the argument. Germany sent Lenin to Russia for their own purposes, to help take Russia out of the war. Parvus was acting on behalf of Germany. By then he was full-on Kaiserjude.

    Elsewhere in this thread, there is stronger support for the argument that Schiff, Warburg et al. only supported the Russian revolution as far as the February revolution and the Menshevik-led coalition.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  378. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:

    Well said

  379. Thirdeye says:
    @Anon

    Intelligentsia with talent stifled by the old order were one of the most dynamic forces in the Russian revolution.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  380. RobinG says:

    H/T to Cagey Beast

    Ziff Brothers, Michael McFaul wanted for questioning.

    FINALLY: Russia Turns the Tables And Wants To Interrogate Real Election Meddlers Hiding In USA

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  381. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu

    (1) First of all we must avoid anti-Semitism because this may upset the Jews. Let’s do not talk about Jews.

    So you think we should have more anti-Semitism? Well from a misanthrope such as yourself, that is an understandable position, but obviously insane, unless you wish to increase Jewish paranoia and hence Jewish alienation from, and antagonism toward, the society within which Jews live.

    Which is not to say that Jews should not be criticized. Far from it. But criticism is quite different from discrimination against and hostility toward Jews as Jews.

    As for

    (2) Abandon Christian faith and any religion and become atheists ..

    that is not something I have ever advocated. But the fact is, most Jews seem to be atheists, which is surely better than being adherents of that racist bastard Yahweh.

    And in asserting my “belief in their (Jewish) supremacy,” you reveal either imbecility or malicious misrepresentation.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  382. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    I suspect that if my article discussing The International Jew and the Protocols in other than purely denunciatory fashion had just been “a few hundred words” long, it might have lacked sufficient nuance, and therefore been subject to very serious misinterpretation…

    I don’t think a shorter article could have been any less nuanced than the article as it stands, which is difficult to interpret as other than an incitement to anti-Semitism. Moreover, I have little doubt that if such an article were submitted for publication in a mainstream American magazine, it would be promptly rejected on grounds of anti-Semitism. Nowhere does the article attempt to distinguish between the beliefs and practices of most Americans with Jewish last names (your criterion of Jewishness) and the appalling beliefs and practices of some Jews at times and in places mostly far removed from the world of the majority of American Jews.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Rurik
  383. Dan Hayes says:
    @RobinG

    RobinG:

    Due to his Kentucky background Prof Steve Cohen almost invariably bends over backwards in refraining from making derogatory comments about Russophobes. But McFaul may be the notable and solitary exception in negating these Kentucky good manners.

  384. Anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon 2

    Russia wanted an empire, and now is being punished for its greed.

    Who is “Russia”?

  385. Sean says:
    @Anon

    Old Major is Marx, Snowball is clearly Trotsky. In 1984 there is yet another sympathetic Trotsky character, Emmanuel Goldstein, who everyone is taught to hate. Authentic socialism is Jewish for Orwell.

    • Replies: @Anon
  386. Seraphim says:
    @Thirdeye

    One may turn the question. Who was acting on behalf of whom? Helphand on behalf of Germany or Germany on behalf of Helphand (i.e. his enablers)? Fritz Fisher (Germany’s aims in the First World War) has evidenced the convergence of the aims of Germany and of the ‘Revolution’. The first and foremost was destruction of Russia and opening her to Western exploitation.

    “From the first days of the war the German government harnessed the energies of these emigres in its own service, at first with the limited purpose of weakening Russian military pressure on the Central Powers by stirring up internal unrest in the Tsarist Empire. Soon, however, the military objectives developed into political aims. Again there were two stages. In the first, revolution was fostered as a means of pressure on Tsarist Russia to conclude a separate peace with Germany along lines desired by Germany; in the second, after the first had repeatedly failed, the object of revolution was the overthrow of the Tsarist regime and the elimination of Russia as a world power…
    Helphand’s idea of dismembering and weakening Russia accorded with Bethmann Hollweg’s thinking in August-September, 1914. The new element was a combination of social with national revolution…
    (The ‘general aim of the war’ was, for him [BH], ‘security for the German Reich in west and east for all imaginable time. For this purpose France must be so weakened as to make her revival as a great power impossible for all time. Russia must be thrust back as far as possible from Germany’s eastern frontier and her domination over the non-Russian vassal peoples broken.)’ ”
    These aims were detailed in a memorandum of the President of the Alldeutscher Verband, Class, on the 28 August 1914, but printed in 1917:
    “‘Russia’s face must be forcibly turned back to the east and her frontiers must be reduced, approxi-
    mately, to those of Peter the Great’. The territorial acquisitions which he demanded in the east, for strategic security and as fields of colonisation, were the Polish frontier districts, the Russian govern-
    ment of Lithuania and the Baltic Provinces”.

    Memoranda expressing the aims of the Industry and banking cartel were even more drastic, demanding:
    1. ‘Elimination of the intolerable tutelage exercised by Britain over Germany in all questions of world politics.’
    2. ‘Shattering the Russian colossus.’
    3. Elimination of weak, ‘allegedly neutral states’ on Germany’s frontiers.

    There is strong support for the Warburg-Schiff cabal coninuing support for the Bolsheviks:

    Henry Wickham Steed, “Through Thirty Years 1892–1922 A personal narrative,” The Peace Conference, The Bullitt Mission, Vol. II. (New York: Doubleday Page and Co., 1924),
    @https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/10/wall-street-and-the-november-1917-bolshevik-revolution/

    “Potent international financial interests were at work in favor of the immediate recognition of the Bolshevists. Those influences had been largely responsible for the Anglo-American proposal in January to call Bolshevist representatives to Paris at the beginning of the Peace Conference—a proposal which had failed after having been transformed into a suggestion for a Conference with the Bolshevists at Prinkipo. . . . The well-known American Jewish banker, Mr. Jacob Schiff, was known to be anxious to secure recognition for the Bolshevists….
    [In return for diplomatic recognition, Tchitcherin, the Bolshevist Commissary for Foreign Affairs, was offering “extensive commercial and economic concessions.”]
    That day Colonel House asked me to call upon him. I found him worried both by my criticism of any recognition of the Bolshevists and by the certainty, which he had not previously realized, that if the President were to recognize the Bolshevists in return for commercial concessions his whole “idealism” would be hopelessly compromised as commercialism in disguise. I pointed out to him that not only would Wilson be utterly discredited but that the League of Nations would go by the board, because all the small peoples and many of the big peoples of Europe would be unable to resist the Bolshevism which Wilson would have accredited
    I insisted that, unknown to him, the prime movers were Jacob Schiff, Warburg, and other international financiers, who wished above all to bolster up the Jewish Bolshevists in order to secure a field for German and Jewish exploitation of Russia”.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  387. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Hack

    O Bly proceed through Christ. Sounds like super-Gnosticism to me

  388. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Svigor

    The key phrase was “amongst other things”. Also that I only mentioned the British contribution, not all of the rest. Finally, the bulk of the evidence as regards the $20 million from Schiff seems to have gone to support the liberal and democratic movements that offered Jews equal rights as Russian citizens. Not that his was a gift, either, it seems.

    Overall, looking into the Judaism of the Bolsheviks: the more I look, the less Jewish they appear.

    For example, the Jewish Bund actively opposed the Bolsheviks. The Bund was the explicitly Jewish Socialist party formed to bring Jews into socially reforming coalitions. They wanted the liberal democratic leadership to take control as did the Mensheviks, who had the rest of the Jews.

    Keep in mind that liberal and democratic in early 20th Century is not the open borders, minority privileges, we are the wold claptrap of today. It merely offered Russian Jews a way out of being second class citizens. Britain, in 1917, was not exactly a terrible casestudy to try to learn from.

  389. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    911 was an inside job with the Zionists deep on it. Muslims had nothing to do with it. They were easy and convenient scapegoats.

  390. Anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    So you think we should have more anti-Semitism?

    Well, I do.Truth is anti-semitic, apparently.

    unless you wish to increase Jewish paranoia and hence Jewish alienation from, and antagonism toward, the society within which Jews live.

    That’s also a great idea. Antagonism breeds antagonism and before you know it, everyone knows what’s going on. At the moment, the Tribe’s badly hidden hostility is red-pilling the goyim like never before. So, yes please – the more the merrier.

  391. Wally says:
    @CanSpeccy

    [Including large images tends to clutter up a comment-thread and may lead to your entire comment getting trashed.]

    said:
    “is difficult to interpret as other than an incitement to anti-Semitism”

    So what?
    What’s wrong with “an incitement to anti-Semitism”?
    Jews clearly deserve severe criticism.

    said:
    “I have little doubt that if such an article were submitted for publication in a mainstream American magazine, it would be promptly rejected on grounds of anti-Semitism. ”

    No shit, Sherlock.

    “You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.”
    - Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache, Israeli Parliament, 2009

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  392. anon[325] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Those may have been the stated reasons.
    The Turk was waiting at Gallipoli, though, so he must have had foreknowledge. The Turk also had foreknowledge of the Armenian uprising scheduled for the same day [25 April 1915].

    Since the outcome was the Genocide of the Armenians and other Christian Minorities in Turkey, who’s to say that wasn’t the real intention all along?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Sean
  393. Very entertaining essay!
    (1) I liked the James Bond angle. Jews are very prominent in early books of Fleming. Rosa Klebb out of From Russia with Love, and the chess player are the Jews of the period. They are working for SMERSH and are good Stalinists. In the films, the Jews were less obvious.
    (2) As for Schiff and other wealthy Jews investing in Russian Revolution: Lenin said “The capitalists will sell us the rope to hand them”. Actually, western Jewish capitalists who worked with Bolsheviks had a good return on their investment. The young Soviet Republic needed intermediaries in the West, and they did a good (and profitable) job.
    (3) The Bolsheviks undid Jewish culture and religion in the USSR: very few synagogues survived, the language practically disappeared, and Jewish community in Russia had been obliterated almost completely. By 1970, there were no Jews at the top, no Jewish life, intermarriage was well above 60%. So it does not make much sense to present the Revolution as a Jewish takeover.
    (4) If one is looking for a hardline presentation of Jews-and-Bolsheviks topic, one can read From Moses to Lenin, the most readable of Hitler’s oeuvres. No pussyfooting over there!
    (5) The best in this essay is presentation of Unz’s personal progress from political innocence to awareness. One can argue about his conclusions, but his way is of great interest!

  394. @Anarcho-Supremacist

    You lost me at anarcho. Anarcho-supremacist? Grow up you silly man.

  395. @anon

    There never was an Armenian genocide:
    Henry Morgenthau, ‘Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story’, New York, 1918
    Heath W. Lowry, ‘The story behind Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story’, Istanbul 1990
    ‘The Armenians in the Late Ottoman Period’, edited Türkkaya Atatöv, Ankara, 2002.
    Howard M. Sachar, ‘The emergence of the Middle East 1914-1924’, New York, 1969
    Gallipoli, Churchill’s first blunder, battleships against forts.

  396. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cyrano

    Germans sent Lenin to Petersburg, soon to become Leningrad. Politics makes for odd…

  397. “foreknowledge”? When the Royal Navy has just tried (and failed) to blast it’s way through the Dardanelles and pretty obvious preparations of British, ANZAC and French troops for an attack on the Turks are taking place is it surprising that there were troops on the Gallipoli peninsula?

  398. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:
    @Heros

    Bond is empire vs empire. Bond is a tool of imperial power than of freedom.

    Also, those villain names could just be taken for German.

    More interesting than Bond is THE PRESIDENT’S ANALYST and Harry Palmer movies. esp IPCRESS FILE.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  399. mcohen says:
    @Anonymous

    Japie

    most south africans who left south africa did so for a better life.what of it.south africa under black rule is a dump and it is not only jews who have left.many south african farmers including afrikaaners are leaving.
    The south african communist party slogan is “one settler one bullet.”

    Nice try

  400. @Anonymous

    The chances that German_reader is a goy are slim. This particular “reader” is aggressively uninterested in absorbing inconvenient (for the Tribe) knowledge.

    This is a pointless ad-hominem attack. Anyone can ask for more precise evidence, and I found the exchanges between German_reader and Mr Unz helpful in clarifying how some of Schiff’s money might have found its way to the Bolsheviks.

    When presenting forgotten knowledge, it is always a good thing to scrutinize it and reject any parts that are fiction. Whether or not the knowledge is “inconvenient for the Tribe”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  401. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Given that only two pigs are in any way identifiably Jewish, it does not seem parsimonious to equate Orwell’s pigs with Jews, though.

    • Replies: @Sean
  402. With admirable historical accuracy, Ron Unz wrote: “Later, Weimar Germany and Soviet Russia had a period of close military cooperation during the 1920s.”

    According to Viktor Suvorov’s “The Chief Culprit,” at its worst, in Weimar Republic 1932, Hitler’s National Socialist Workers Party faced a deep financial crisis. The Party was doomed until Hitler was saved by Stalin.

    Suvorov provided evidence that “Stalin prepared Germany for a second world war.” Without Stalin’s help, Germany faced doom & was unable to arm itself and reek destruction upon Europe. The author quoted Trotsky, the leader of the Red Army, “Without Stalin there would be no Hitler.”

    If Hitler went to war against Britain and France, Stalin foresaw that the question of lordship over European lands to the east of Gernany would fade on its own, and the Marxist-Leninist goal for communist expansion would inevitably advance.

    Thanks to Ron Unz, a link in the long chain of biased pre-WW2 history is weakened.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Seraphim
  403. @Anonymous

    And as soon as apartheid ended the Jews ran to Israel, Australia, America, New Zealand. Etc. Hypocrites.

    It wasn’t only the Jews, but any white English-speakers who had foreign passports. They voted for the “Rainbow Nation” – and then decided they didn’t want to live there. The white population of South Africa fell by 25%.

    To be fair, many stayed in South Africa until they suffered a home invasion. The possibility of gang rape and murder is a strong incentive to emigrate.

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @Jeff Stryker
  404. annamaria says:
    @Heros

    “From the viewpoint of a Christian however…”
    — Would you be so courageous and intellectually honest as to present the history of Christianity from the point of view of Christianity’s fallings? How about an analysis of some prominent Christians that were involved in the mass murder, torture, fraud?
    Before accusing Unz of his alleged lack of courage (by all standards, Ron is an extraordinarily courageous and honest person), take a look into the depths of your own soul.

  405. annamaria says:
    @utu

    Jakob Schiff had been highly instrumental in bringing in the Bolshevik revolution. Give credit where credit is due.

  406. @Thirdeye

    Intelligentsia with talent stifled by the old order were one of the most dynamic forces in the Russian revolution.

    The October Revolution is often described as a “Workers’ Revolution”, including by Soviet propaganda, but perhaps it is more accurately described as a revolution of the Russian intelligentsia.

    If so, then the high intelligence of the Ashkenazim would have ensured high Jewish participation, even if the revolution itself had had no ethnic dimension.

    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
  407. annamaria says:
    @for-the-record

    It is the objectivity of Solzhenitsyn’s research that made his documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” intolerable for the tribe.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  408. annamaria says:
    @Anon 2

    “The Russian Empire in the late 19th century was a prison of nations (Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, …), all yearning to break free from the Russian oppression.”
    – Please, tell us more about the history of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.
    Also, in what zionized Russophobic outlet have you found that “small ethnic Russian population trying to rule a ridiculously large territory?” You only need to check the names of the most prominent Russian statesmen, military, intellectuals and so forth to get the idea of Russia being a true melting pot (though without a heavy infusion of Africans).

  409. @Anonymous

    Germans, including nationalist Germans (other than the HIAG variety), are deeply conditioned against accepting antisemitic evidence. German_reader has even made the preposterous claim that prewar Germany had no Jewish problem, something which would’ve surprised Germans of that time (and not just Nazis–see Brüning’s letter to Churchill about Jewish banks).

    • Replies: @for-the-record
  410. @James N. Kennett

    The general recipe for a revolution is the confrontation between a rising/suppressed, talented class and a reformist regime.

    If the Tsarist regime had been as ruthless as the Bolsheviks later portrayed it to be, there would have been no Russian Revolution. Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky would’ve all been dead.

    Just goes to show Napoleon was right in his assessment of Louis XVI’s humanity.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  411. annamaria says:
    @Seraphim

    Thank you for the important details

  412. Mike P says:
    @Ron Unz

    Sorry to abuse the comment facility for filing a bug report. It concerns this very comment system.

    Occasionally, when replying to a comment, the comment referred to does not get linked in the reply. I have observed this with comment replies of my own and also with those of others. It seems particularly common when the comment replied to is the last one currently displayed. I have not paid close enough attention to be certain if this is the only case.

    While I’m on it, may I suggest another feature. Occasionally, I see comments highlighted with a sort-of-golden frame. I assume that these are comments which you (Ron Unz) have deemed valuable and illuminating. If that is so, it might make sense to insert a link to any such comment below the story, at the top of the comment thread.

    Otherwise, I would like to thank you for the outstanding work you do with this website, both with your own writing and with hosting and highlighting the work of others. May you live long and prosper.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  413. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “Hitler’s National Socialist Workers Party faced a deep financial crisis. The Party was doomed”.-
    Correct

    ” until Hitler was saved by Stalin.”. -False

    In a 1937 letter, ex-German Chancellor (1930-1932) Heinrich Brüning revealed to Churchill just who backed his successor, Adolph Hitler:

    ‘I didn’t, and do not even today for understandable reasons, wish to reveal from October 1928, the two largest regular contributors to the Nazi Party were the general managers of two of the largest Berlin banks, both of Jewish faith and one of them the leader of Zionism in Germany.”

    (Source: David Irving Speech – at roughly the 14-minute mark of his 90 minute speech.)

    If you are not a “German Reader”, you Know that Heinrich Brüning had no reason to lie and he had evidence. Churchill believed that Heinrich Brüning wasn’t lying. You should also know that one’s opinion of David Irving is completely irrelevant.

    Conclusion: Viktor Suvorov was wrong.

  414. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy

    if such an article were submitted for publication in a mainstream American magazine, it would be promptly rejected on grounds of anti-Semitism.

    just as CNN or the NYT would reject such thoughts on similar grounds, no doubt.

    article attempt to distinguish between the beliefs and practices of most Americans with Jewish last names (your criterion of Jewishness) and the appalling beliefs and practices of some Jews at times and in places mostly far removed from the world of the majority of American Jews.

    Let me ask you something, CanSpeccy..

    I’ve been in some conversations here, and I’ve been trying to point out that not all Jews are hostile to white Americans (or Brits or Germans, Swedes, ect..), nor do all Jews support the genocide of the Palestinians.

    But this is the dilemma..

    I can’t think of too many Jews who support both – the right of the British people to persevere as British people (in Britain), and the right of Palestinians to persevere as Palestinians (in Palestine).

    Indeed, for the people like myself who support self-determination for all people, we are excoriated by liberals and most Jews as being full of hate, and wanting ‘white supremacism’ to prevail in England!!

    Is it ‘white supremacism’ for Brits to want to live among other Brits and their ancient British culture in their own British lands?

    Is it Palestinian supremacism for Palestinians to want to persevere in their own lands?

    I don’t think so. But many, many people do. So for me, I’ve been trying to come up with Jews I can think of who support both of those reasonable and rational endeavors. It would be proof to some of the others here that not all Jews are hostile to us White (straight, Christian working class [especially] male) Americans.

    So far I’ve mentioned Gilad Atzmon, (and he seems to be known as a “self hating Jew”, if not ‘thee self hating Jew’). I also mentioned Paul Gottfried, as I suspect that he too is sympathetic to these two causes, but I don’t know for certain.

    But this is the thing CanSpeccy.. I can’t think of too many more!

    I see Israel Shamir has chimed in here (with his usual thoughtful remarks), and while he’s a gifted writer and speaks very eloquently about the plight of the Palestinians, I’ve never considered him any kind of apologist of the plight of the ‘alt-right’, (who’re watching with alarm as monuments to their heritage are pulled down, and their children will be forced to grow up in a world full of people who’re hostile to them, when not down-right full of savage hatred).

    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/President-Donald-Trump-Star-Hollywood-Walk-Fame-Vandalized-489103611.html

    So you see where I’m going with this, is I’m trying to demonstrate to some of the naysayers here, that Jews, (as Jews) are often people just like the rest of us Americans, (Brits etc..) that want to preserve the demographic and cultural world that we and our ancestors struggled and persevered in.

    But there seems to be a dearth of these Jews, at least that I can think of.

    Benjamin Freedman broke ranks with ‘the Jews’, and warned us all about ((their)) treachery vis-a-vis WWI and Palestine. But that was done by wealthy and powerful Jews, not the rank and file.

    I know a lot of Jews, and most of them come down either on the side of Zionists, and some of them are tepidly sympathetic to what might be called the alt-right’. Or they’re liberals and consider Trump and the alt-right to be Hitler and his Brown shirts reincarnated. with tepid support for the plight of the Pals.

    But when I think about it, I can’t think of too many (any!) who support both the Pals and Joe the Plumber’s right to persevere in self-determination.

    So my point is (I know, I know ; ), if there simply are virtually (statistically) no Jews of any numerical consequence, who agree with guys like me, that both the Palestinians and Joe the Plumber have a God given right to persevere, and pass down their lifestyles to their children without hostile ‘others’ demanding that they move over, and get replaced..

    Then isn’t the entire charge of “anti-Semitism” just a ruse by overtly hostile people to malign their victims? (people who these Jews shouting “anti-Semite”!!! at – are people who ‘the Jews’ want to see destroyed)?

    Because if ‘the Jews’, as some near monolithic movement, uniformly intend to see a slated people (the Pals, the Brits, white N. Americans) marginalized and dispersed in their own lands..

    and had the power of the purse to see it though…

    then wouldn’t it behoove these people to resist such a depravation, and call out their enemies by name?

    Even if some Jewish supremacist somewhere (no matter how veiled ; ) took ‘offense’ and screeched ‘that’s anti-Semitic!!!!

    ?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @jilles dykstra
  415. @Thorfinnsson

    German_reader has even made the preposterous claim that prewar Germany had no Jewish problem, something which would’ve surprised Germans of that time (and not just Nazis–see Brüning’s letter to Churchill about Jewish banks).

    As far as I am aware Brüning’s letter(s) to Churchill dealt not with the “Jewish problem” as such, but with a rather surprising source of financing for the Nazis:

    [According to David Irving]

    Brüning wrote a letter to Churchill after he had been forced to resign and go into exile in England in August, 1937, setting out the names and identities of the people who backed Hitler. And after the war, Churchill requested Brüning for permission to publish this letter in his great world history, The six-volume world history. And Brüning said no. In his letter, Brüning wrote, ’1 didn’t, and do not even today for understandable reasons, wish to reveal from October 1928, the two largest regular contributors to the Nazi Party were the general managers of two of the largest Berlin banks, both of Jewish faith and one of them the leader of Zionism in Germany.”

    Now there is a letter ftom Dr. Heimich Brüning to Churchill in 1949, explaining why he wouldn’t give permission to Churchill to publish the August 1937 letter. It was an extraordinary story, out of Churchill’s memoirs, even Churchill wanted to reveal that fact, you begin to sense the difficulties that we have in printing the truth today. Churchill, of course, knew all about lies. He was an expert in Iying himself. He put a gloss on it. He would say to his friends, “The truth is such a fragile flower, She truth is so precious, it must be given a bodyguard of lies.” This is the way Churchill put it.

    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v07/v07p498_Okeefe.html

  416. @Israel Shamir

    ISRAEL

    So-called Jewish participation in Bolshevik Revolution and Communist takeover 1917 on is exaggerated.

    Lenin was 1/4 Jewish and unaware of it throughout his adult life. Trotsky was half-Jewish. It is unlikely that either of these men ever went to a Temple in their entire life. Marx was Jewish but an atheist who detested religion.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Sean
  417. annamaria says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “So-called Jewish participation…”
    Please, read “Two Hundred Years Together.” Check the names of the main organizers of the GULAG, labor camps, and collectivization.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  418. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    The chances that German_reader is a goy are slim

    I hope you’re right

    I’m loath to think that Germans are that abased and sniveling. But then how many of the best of Germany were burned alive or died of starvation/exposure during (and especially after!) the war was “over”?

    Not to mention how many ‘Germans’ today are the offspring of Soviet or American orcs – who descended upon the ashes of Germany to deliver the ultimate punishment/humiliation.

    It would make sense if German_reader were actually the offspring of an American orc and his starving German mother. He’d have all the prerequisite knowledge of modern German life, with all the necessary rancor in his soul for the actual German people.

    Like some kind of German Obama, motivated by a deep and abiding hatred for the race and nation of his mother.

  419. Sean says:
    @anon

    By public subscription, Turkey paid for a couple dreadnoughts built in Britain. Without offering compensation, Churchill seized them for the British fleet and that precipitated Turkey siding with Germany and declairing war on Russia. Against advice, Winston Churchill insisted on sending a naval squadron to bombard the Dardanelles outer defensive forts (days before Britain was officially at war with Turkey) and the predictable result was the Turks began feverishly working to improve the defensive infrastructure of the whole area. Churchill was only deliberately helping Germany though, he did not, as Lord Alfred Douglas claimed, assassinate Lord Kitchene and sell out the fleet for Jewish gold.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  420. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Wally

    Wondered how long it would be before the Unz’s crackpot chorus of anti-Semites would show up. Unfortunately, you don’t read very well, Wally. You say:

    Jews clearly deserve severe criticism.

    That in response to my comment:

    Which is not to say that Jews should not be criticized. Far from it. But criticism is quite different from discrimination against and hostility toward Jews as Jews.

    Moreover, you ignore the fact that the Jews open to criticism represent a tiny fraction of the population of Americans that Unz defines as Jews, i.e., those who, for reasons beyond their control, bear a Jewish last name.

    But naturally if you keep damning Jews in an indiscriminate way, you will cause some of those ordinary Jews, the majority of whom are non-religious American firsters, to become defensive, resentful and inclined to turn to the Jewish cultural and religious community for support where they may become doctrinaire separatists and believers in Jewish superiority in the eyes of God from which can flow much evil.

    • Replies: @jsm
  421. @Anonymous

    Hi Anonymous i.d. # 253,

    Grant it, the veracity of ex-German Chancellor Heinrich Bruning revealation to (Zionist) Winnie, including “who backed his successor, Adolph Hitler.”

    (Zigh) This is like Zionist Hillary sharing a “secret” with Zionist Tony Blair that Sheldon Adelson & other Jewish billionaires

  422. @annamaria

    Considering the Stalin was not Jewish and ordered the death of Trotsky and the situation of Soviet Jews in general I don’t see the endgame.

    I don’t have to real Alexander to know that the Jews suffered due to being largely prosperous merchants prior to 1917 during the Revolution and were reduced to second-class citizens under Communism-Kissinger would go to great lengths to pressure the Russian government to allow its Jewish subjects to immigrate to Israel.

  423. refl says:
    @Ron Unz

    Douglas Reeds “Controversy of Zion” has a chapter on “The warning of Disraeli”. I do not know if the book is already on your site but it is certainly a valid source, given that this is also a once eminent author who was ostracised.

  424. Anonymous[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Nah, German_reader didn’t approach this topic with sceptical curiosity. His mind was like a closed fist. He was stubbornly dismissing evidence and logic with “I’m unconvinced”. After a while his own behaviour became unconvincing and unreasonable.

    • Disagree: for-the-record
  425. @Anonymous

    Hi Anonymous Agent # 253,

    Don’t know why the reason my previous comment-response to you got sliced in half, but I assume it’s a glitch for which I might be responsible.

    At any rate, the bottom line is the fact that, regrettably, you have provided no (zero) evidence to write, “Conclusion: Viktor Suvorov was wrong.”

    In “The Chief Culprit,” Viktor Suvorov documented how Stalin facilitated the National Socialist Workers Party’s ability to avoid bankruptcy, and subsequently gave Hitler the gift of necessary military-assets to wage successful war on capitalist Western Europe.

    (Zigh). Smacks of America’s rainy day “enemy” China, and its communist government buying ZUS Treasury bonds and facilitating immoral wars and sanctions on Chinese businessnen and their export products. W.T.F.?

    I hope this entire comment “sticks” and is not partially amputated.

    Thank you, agent 253.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  426. Sean says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Please. Lenin presumably knew what his his grandfather’s name was (Max Blank). Lenin’s brother, the one who attempted to assassinate Alexander III, also knew the name, and what it signified.

    Tsar Nicholas II and his family were killed (after a bit of rape) by guards who were commanded by Jews. So if the most valuable thing the Bolsheviks had was entrusted to Jews, that hardly suggests that Jews had no special position in the Bolshevik Revolution.

  427. Rurik says:
    @Israel Shamir

    By 1970, there were no Jews at the top, no Jewish life, intermarriage was well above 60%. So it does not make much sense to present the Revolution as a Jewish takeover.

    In the fifties Stalin had purged many of the Jews.

    but in its nascent stages, and certainly during the revolution, the Bolsheviks were mostly Jews.

    there is Churchill’s quote

    Bolshevism] among the Jews is nothing new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.[40]

    But mostly, there is the realties of what transpired.

    If the Russian revolution were actually conducted by Russians, for the benefit of Russians, in order to create a sort of ‘workers paradise’, then why would these Russians use the revolution to impose on Russia (and Ukraine and Poland and everywhere else the Soviet Fiend marched) a soul-numbing terror of nightmare proportions? A dystopian, Orwellian horror of gulags and mass-starvation genocides and pogroms? Now known as the Red Terror.

    If your average Russian or Hungarian were running the revolution, then why would they use it to terrorize working class Hungarians, like Bela Kun used it for? If it was foisted and operated for the benefit of average Russians and Ukrainians and Hungarians?

    This, more than anything I can think of is evidence that the revolution was funded and founded by people hostile to Russians (and Ukrainians and Hungarians), to impose a cruel and bloody iron fist on the terrorized Gentiles.

    Is that not what indeed happened?

    And if so, why would Russians want to make their fellow Russians suffer?

    But to ask why Jews would want to make Russians (or Germans or Hungarians) suffer, seems to be a no-brainer. They’re raised to consider themselves superior to Gentiles and to consider Gentiles their enemy. are they not?

    Does not an all-pervasive belief that Jews are special and superior (chosen) act as the very foundation of Judaism? And that the Jews have been persecuted for ’2000 years’ by a goyim filled with bigotry and irrational hatred for ‘the Jews’?

    Yes?

    No?

    And if so, could that not be the reason the Bolshevik revolution was so unimaginably horrific to so many millions of Ukrainians and Hungarians and Russians and Poles and so many, many more?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jeff Stryker
  428. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:

    @ ChuckOrloski

    Here is the speech :

    David Irving is a great speaker and some say he’s a great scholar.

    What seems clear is that in spite of being an expert on Hitler, David Irving sees Hitler as a great man, the saviour of white man -as some fools here also believe-etc…

    That Hitler was a criminal, a third rate intellect, that he was probable being used to destroy Germany never seems to cross David Irving’s mind.

    Maybe he is a great scholar, but his love for Hitler impedes him to see the truth.

    You’re right about the Zionist Tony Blair. We know who put Tony Blair in power and who he served. Most people ignore who put Hitler in power and who he served. Maybe Hitler himself didn’t know, although I have some doubts.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
  429. @Jeff Stryker

    [quote]I don’t have to real Alexander to know that the Jews suffered due to being largely prosperous merchants prior to 1917 during the Revolution and were reduced to second-class citizens under Communism[/quote]
    Jews were under legal restrictions during Tsarist times. I doubt it is true to say most of them were prosperous merchants. In fact most Jews lived in poverty in their Shtetls or urban ghettoes. Jews were liberated when the Tsar was overthrown. And when the Bolsheviks took power, the Jews got their first taste of political power at the highest level in Russia.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  430. Sean says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    the Jews suffered due to being largely prosperous merchants

    Compared to who; surely you cannot mean the peasants that made up the majority of the population were fortunately situated relative to Jews? Historically, the peasants were serfs, slaves, who could not own land, while Jews had privileges such as not being conscripted into the army (the withdrawal of that Jewish privilege was deeply resented). To think the Jews of Russia were hard done by, one must ignore how the vast majority of Russians actually lived.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  431. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    @ ChuckOrloski

    “Viktor Suvorov documented how Stalin facilitated the National Socialist Workers Party’s ability to avoid bankruptcy”

    In late 20′s, Stalin gave the National Socialist Workers Party the money or not ?

    As far as I know, the answer is “NO!”

    w/o money in late 20′s, Hitler wouldn’t have “won” the 1933′s election. No money, no power.

    He could have tried again another coup d’état. But we have no reason to believe that he’d have succeeded.

    ” and subsequently gave Hitler the gift of necessary military-assets to wage successful war on capitalist Western Europe.”

    We know also that “capitalist Western Europe” (and not just the USA) armed Hitler.

    Seems to me that one should not believe what Viktor Suvorov says.

  432. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    I can’t think of too many Jews who support both – the right of the British people to persevere as British people (in Britain), and the right of Palestinians to persevere as Palestinians (in Palestine).

    That’s perhaps because in the matter of territorial possession there is no such thing as a “right”: posession is not nine tenths of the law, to use an English expression, it is the law, since the possessor makes the law. That that is so, is evident if you consider the case of the Amerindians, the Australian aborigines, etc. There’s no way, short of victory in a genocidal war, that the aboriginal people get their lands back. Where, after all, would the 34 million Americans of Irish descent go? Or the 40 million Americans of British descent?

    The same applies to Palestine. Who wants six million Israeli Jews? Palestine was originally Canaanite, but the Jews gen0cided the Canaanites and and replaced them. Then the Romans took it and ultimately decimated the Jewish population. Then, after many intervening changes it became a province of the Turkish Empire, to be taken off the Turks by the Brits, who in a limp-wristed fashion let it go to the Jews who now make the law there (not that most of them have much if any genetic relationship with the first lot of genocidal Jews).

    Sure the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians in the occupied territories is brutal, but it is not a whole lot worse than the treatment of the remnant white British in the alien-majority occupied cities of London, Birmingham, Leicester, Luton, etc., etc. True the British white trash aren’t assaulted with white phosporus and high explosive, but knife-wielding Jamaicans and acid throwing, intolerant Muslim pedophiles, seem, if anything, a worse affliction.

    As for the rest of what you say, I’m not sure I really follow it. But there is no doubt that if I disagree with a Jew, I do so on the merits of their argument. To attack them for being supposedly descended from that mythical couple Abraham and Sarah, seems utterly absurd: like condemning Theresa May for being a woman, a Conservative or a supposed Christian, rather than because she is a betrayer of the people’s trust, i.e., a traitor to the nation she is supposed to serve. (And in that respect, May is simply the last in a long line of traitors — Cameron, Blair, going back to that Pedo villain Heath.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Rurik
  433. @Jon Halpenny

    Trotsky’s family was. True enough there were pogroms in the days of the Czar.

    And they did not hold the reins long-Stalin killed Trotsky and by the 80′s (A time when you may not have been borne) the US state department finally got some Soviet Jews out of Russia.

    There was a huge push to allow them to go to Israel in the 70′s.

    So they could not have wielded that much power.

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
    , @Anon
  434. Sean says:
    @Israel Shamir

    By 1970, there were no Jews at the top,

    Jews were at the top of the wave of the future: the dissident movement that toppled the Soviet Union. And then after a Jewish led movement had again toppled a Russian system that tried to keep Jews down, Jews rose on the ruins of the old system during Yeltsin’s time. If Putin tried to restrict Jewish influence, it would happen a third time to Russia, and he would be overthrown. People at the top know to surround themselves with Jews. Multiple children of both both Putin and Trump are married to Jews. After the scare of 2011, Putin clamped down on anyone criticising Jews, or Israel

    When a member of the Russian Duma suggested changing the state’s constitution in 2012 to remove the inclusive “we the multinational people of Russia” in favor of the exclusive “we the [ethnic] Russian people,” Putin dismissed the idea.

  435. Anonymous[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Jewish-controlled porn industry is an absolute cesspool of degradation and misery for the goyim.

    Ditto for Jewish-controlled banking, MSM, Hollywood or education.

    Or Weimar Republic.

    Or early Soviet Republic.

    Or Israel, for that matter. The corrupt, genocidal, shiksa-trading, organ-trafficking World leader. Everything they touch turns to irradiated shit in direct proportion to the number chosenites at the top.

    A not-so-wise man once said: “They hate us for our freedoms”. As it turns out, it was the Tribe all along. Their cult abhors goyim freedom and every time we used it to push back was remembered and used to fuel their fear/hate dogma.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  436. annamaria says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Soviet Jew…the Jews suffered…”
    – Another litany on a theme the “incomparable sufferings” & “eternal victimhood.”
    Was not there the famous Jackson-Vanick law to save the “sufferers?” To the great surprise of Americans, the “sufferers” came with the university diplomas in various fields and some of the “sufferers” used to occupy high-level positions in academia and management in the USSR. https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/02/the-judeo-russian-mafia-from-the-gulag-to-brooklyn-to-world-domination/
    – How long did the organizer of Holodomor, Lazar Kaganovich, live? — 98 years, in a comfort of his residence in Moscow: http://real-life-villains.wikia.com/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich
    “Kaganovich personally oversaw grain confiscations… Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region, Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union. As an emissary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Kaganovich traveled to Ukraine, the central regions of the USSR, the Northern Caucasus, and Siberia demanding the acceleration of collectivization and repressions against the Kulaks, who were generally blamed for the slow progress of collectivization. … On 13 January 2010 Kiev Appellate Court posthumously found Kaganovich guilty of genocide against Ukrainians during the catastrophic Holodomor famine.”
    – The “suffering” Soviet Jews made also the majority among the Russian oligarchs: https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-meet-israel-s-russian-oligarchs-1.5290286
    “A large number of the infamous “Russian” oligarchs are in fact Zionists who hold—and conceal—their dual Israeli-Russian citizenship. … Jewish Supremacists took advantage of the chaos in the collapsing Soviet Union to emerge from their middle-ranking Communist Party membership to seize control of huge parts of that nation’s economy. … In the past decade, wealthy businessmen from the former Soviet Union have flocked to Israel in private planes via the Moscow-Tel Aviv route. They live below the radar, zealously guarding their privacy and hiding their assets and Israeli citizenship.”
    – But of course, the quetching about “antisemitism” in Russia has never abided. Considering the massive, horrific crimes committed by the assorted Jewish Bolsheviks, it is wondrous that Russians have been so tolerant towards the tribe.
    “Labor camps were run under Naftaly Frenkel’ system “No work, no food”. This system was responsible for the high death toll of the camps:” https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.politics.bush/Bw-2Hlg16rw
    Matvei Berman “helped develop the GULAG system of [death] camps:” https://www.secret-bases.co.uk/wiki/Matvei_Berman

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Paw
  437. Ron Unz says:
    @Mike P

    Occasionally, when replying to a comment, the comment referred to does not get linked in the reply. I have observed this with comment replies of my own and also with those of others. It seems particularly common when the comment replied to is the last one currently displayed.

    Almost everything you see displayed on the screen is produced by my own code, but unfortunately I rely upon WordPress for the “backend,” including the comment-processing system, and it sometimes malfunctions, though it’s also possible you may occasionally be forgetting to use the “Reply” link button. Replacing WordPress would be a huge headache since it supports such a variety of third-party plugins.

    While I’m on it, may I suggest another feature. Occasionally, I see comments highlighted with a sort-of-golden frame. I assume that these are comments which you (Ron Unz) have deemed valuable and illuminating. If that is so, it might make sense to insert a link to any such comment below the story, at the top of the comment thread.

    Near the top of all the comments is an “Endorsed Only” button. Pressing it hides all comments except for (1) those written by website Authors; (2) those which have had an “Agree”; and (3) those highlighted with a golden frame. This is somewhat similar to what you suggest.

    • Agree: Mike P
  438. @Sean

    I meant that Jews suffered after Red October, because as you say, they were resented as merchants and capitalist.

    • Replies: @Sean
  439. @Anonymous

    Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt may have exploited some Jewesses along the way.

    My feeling is that Jewish girls like Silverman know the day they get to Hollywood that there is going to be a casting couch.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Anonymous
  440. @annamaria

    What I mean is that if Communism was run by Jews, why were they worse off under it than other Soviet citizens?

    In general in life, Jews probably suffer less. They’re IQ is generally high. Which means they have a high-paying skill-set, which means their kids are not subjected to the horrors of poor integrated neighborhoods and schools, which means they achieve better qualification, which means they have a better standard of living.

    This is not so much a result of some cabal as merely less poor planning. Not many Jews are going to have kids at 20, 21. Few will drop out of high school. Less will have out-of-wedlock pregnancies. Not as many get hooked on really destructive drugs like meth or heroin (Though a few do in Bronx or Brooklyn and come to miserable ends).

    • Replies: @annamaria
  441. @annamaria

    Yes, it is as well referenced as another intolerable book:
    John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, ‘The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy’, New York 2007

  442. cassandra says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Germany can be blamed for the gratuitious provocation of building a High Seas Fleet. ”

    The construction of the fleet wasn’t gratuitous; events never happen without reason, although it’s amazing how often we’re expected to believe exactly that. For this case, here are quotes from Gerd-Schultze Rhonhof’s “1939 – The War That Had Many Fathers”:

    p. 26: “…Tirpitz and…High Command are of the opinion that a German Navy about 60% as strong as the British Royal Navy is sufficient to attain the four goals: protection of the North Sea fisheries, protection of their trade on the seas, security against a naval blockade, and the possibility of an alliance with England. With such a fleet…von Tirpitz is convinced that England’s safety and naval supremacy are not really put in danger.”

    Well that sounds reasonable. However:

    p. 27: “In England, they are convinced that their own navy must always be superior to the sum of the next two strongest fleets by about 10% in number…so that, if necessary England all alone could come out victorious against these two opposing sea powers.”

    For this situation to be stable, the 3rd largest fleet (eventually, the American) would have to be no more than 110% – 60% = 50% of England’s. So,

    p. 28 “The British government in 1898 and 1901 tries several times through negotiation to discourage the German government from building warships. Germany asks in return a British-German alliance, which England is not ready to enter. That promotes on the German side the conviction that they must have more ships in order for such an alliance to be timely and interesting.”

    As Jackie Gleason used to say back in the day, “…and AWAY we go.”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  443. @Rurik

    Stalin was not Jewish. Neither was Tito. Or that Romanian guy.

    Why did Jews allow Trotsky to be killed by a Goy? Why was Lenin marginalized and succeeded by Stalin?

    Why did Jews purged by other Jews?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  444. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy

    there is no such thing as a “right”: posession is not nine tenths of the law, to use an English expression, it is the law, since the possessor makes the law.

    yes, this is what’s known as ‘the law of the jungle’, and I agree it’s the final law.

    My point is that when you’re the people being genocided, (Palestinians, Brits, et al) then it behooves you to oppose such actions and take measures to assure you don’t end up like the Amerindians/Aborigines.

    And part of that ‘opposing’ should start with being able to name your genocidal enemy.

    Especially since ((they’re)) the most boisterous and fanatical in demanding that genocide is wrong! (the most evil crime that has ever, ever EVER been committed ever!!!)

    (except when they’re the ones committing it, and you’re the one being genocided. Then to complain about your genocide is only proof of your intractable ‘racism’ and “white supremacism”!

    We’re all supposed to simultaneously genuflect to the myriad Holocaust museums with self-reflection for what ‘we’ did to those people, while at the same time, not only participating in the genocide of the Palestinians, but also our own. If we point out who is foisting it, then we’re maligned with weaponsed smear words, always intended to silence the truth as ‘racist’, or other such dishonest calumny.

    but knife-wielding Jamaicans and acid throwing, intolerant Muslim pedophiles, seem, if anything, a worse affliction.

    https://www.thisisinsider.com/three-arrested-3-year-old-deliberately-targeted-acid-attack-england-2018-7

    but why are they there?!

    who is behind this imperative that all white, Western nations MUST commit ethnic suicide?!

    and the problem is that we all know who is behind it all. Just as we know who was behind the Bolshevik revolution, that plunged Russia (and Ukraine and others) into a dystopian hell on earth.

    Just as we all know who is behind the globohomo push for shitlib, Hollywood gender fluidity, and all the other depraved tripe pushed by the (((media))), don’t we?

    Just as we’re all aware of who is behind all the wars in the Middle East. Duh.

    But then when some of us say, hey, why are so many Jews demanding the genocide of our people..?

    Others shout HOW DARE YOU ASK THAT YOU ANTI-SEMITE?!?!?!

    To attack them for being supposedly descended from that mythical couple Abraham and Sarah, seems utterly absurd: like condemning Theresa May for being a woman,

    Never in my life have I ever attacked a Jew for being a Jew. Rather, I’ve always pointed out that there are very many very decent Jews. Always have.

    My question to you, was why are there so few who support the right of Londoners to leave their three year old toddlers in their strollers without having some hate crazed orcs toss acid in their face. For me, Muslims should be welcome as guests into England, but the idea of them demographically taking over entire cities is beyond insanity.

    But how many Jews do you know, CanSpaccy, who feel the same way?

    This is what I’m trying to flesh out. I’m not condemning all Jews, hardly. But I am asking out loud, where are the Jewish voices condemning acts like that acid attack. We all know that our media is owned and controlled by Jews, so why hasn’t that attack been all over the news? Not only is it sensational, but it’s an act of sheer, unspeakable evil, by what is assuredly non-Western immigrants, when the planet is reeling over a debate about immigration. And yet all we hear is crickets from the (((media))). Why is that?!

    Did MSNBC even report it?

    just like what happened to Channon Christian, these horrific crimes againt white people (because they’re white people), are always hushed up by the Jewish media, which makes me wonder if they’d like to see more of them.

    Is it anti-Semitic to wonder at such things? Do not ‘the Jews’ own our media, lock, stock and barrel?

    Then why do they always hush up horrific crimes by minorities against whites?!

    There seems to be a track there, and I’m trying to get someone to point out to me all the Jews that are just as alarmed at shit like this, as I am.

    WHERE ARE THEY?

    Indeed, Ron Unz is one of the only ones I know who points out these monstrous crimes, like the pretty little girl who was gang raped by orcs and then fed to alligators.

    Haven’t heard about it? OF COURSE! you haven’t heard about it, because they LIKE it when shit like that happens, and want to see more of it! OR GOD DAMN IT they’d report it!

    Sorry, getting a bit intemperate, as is my occasional wont.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @CanSpeccy
    , @Anonymous
    , @Heros
  445. Sean says:
    @Anon

    Marx and Trotsky are generally regarded as the supreme theoreticians of communism. Trotsky was the main organiser of the Bolshevik victory against the Whites. Both are pigs in Animal Farm and play a role of equal importance to their real life models. The Stalin pig is not portrayed as at all important as a theoretician or organiser of the take over of the farm. The horse is the peasantry. Orwell’s pigs are not communists, certain pigs invented communisn because they were the cleverest animals in the barnyard.

    And 1984 has Goldstein with his book very like Trotsky’s tome The Revolution Betrayed. Orwell’s 1984 is The Iron Heel with a wise Jew as good guy. The baddie of 1984 is called O’Brian, and you cannot get less a less Jewish name than that. Orwell thought that socialism was Jewish and but revolutions would inevitably be followed by a rejection of Jewish leadership by venal gentiles of the majority becoming a new elite.

    • Replies: @Anon
  446. Sean says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Hefner got an award from the ADL

  447. Anonymous[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt may have exploited some Jewesses along the way.

    Yeah, they may have inappropriately fisted you for all I care. Do you have a point?

  448. cassandra says:
    @Anonymous

    “Are you certain Dzerzhinsky wasn’t of at least partial Jewish background. (As a youth, he was fluent in Yiddish.)”

    No; what little I know of his bio comes only from a few videos and D’s Wikipedia entry. The latter states:
    “His aristocratic Catholic family belonged to the former Polish-Lithuanian szlachta (nobility), of the Samson coat of arms. As a child, before taking to Marxist ideology, Felix considered becoming a Jesuit priest.”
    “As a youngster Dzerzhinsky became fluent in four languages: Polish, Russian, Yiddish, and Latin. He attended the Wilno gymnasium from 1887 to 1895…. Dzerzhinsky received a school diploma which stated: ‘Dzerzhinsky Feliks, who is 18 years of age, of Catholic faith, along with a satisfactory attention and satisfactory diligence showed the following successes in sciences, namely: Divine law—”good”; Logic, Latin, Algebra, Geometry, Mathematical geography, Physics, History (of Russia), French—”satisfactory”; Russian and Greek—”unsatisfactory’.

    To take a stab at your point, I’m guessing that he was taught Polish, Russian, Yiddish, and Latin “as a youngster” just to be able to communicate with people in his environment; maybe the Latin had something to do with his Jesuit inclinations, or maybe it was something routinely taught to children of the Catholic gentry.

    I see nothing here that suggests Jewish ancestry, as his knowledge of Yiddish seems incidental. Maybe some other reader has some idea of how commonly Yiddish was spoken between Gentiles and Jews in that neck of the woods.

    As for the prevalence of Jews among the Bolsheviks, I myself speculate that it may have been incidental. While the Jews were only 4% of the population, the question may pivot on what pwercentage they were of the overall intelligentsia, of people who could work with ideologies and politics. That fraction may have been quite higher.

  449. Rurik says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Stalin was not Jewish. Neither was Tito.

    neither was Dubya or Obama or Hillary

    but they all were willing to betray their nation and people and oaths, in order to slaughter and maim and displace millions of innocents- simply because it was perceived as “good for the (Zionist) Jews’ to do so.

    Why did Jews allow Trotsky to be killed by a Goy? Why was Lenin marginalized and succeeded by Stalin?

    because Stalin was an utterly ruthless man who would sick an icepick in his own mother if it bolstered his nefarious power.

    All of which is beside my point.

    My point is;

    ‘How many Jew are out there who condemn the treatment of the Palestinians, and also contemn the insanity of England committing ethnic and cultural suicide and allowing orcs to toss acid in their baby’s faces, when they’re not gang raping their school girls wholesale ?

    For instance, I suppose Stephan Miller would condemn the Muslim invasion of England, but I hardly think he’d condemn what’s being done in Palestine.

    Whereas some Jewish liberals will speak out for the Palestinians, but then would call anyone in England or Sweden who’s opposed to massive and transformational immigration, a “white supremacist”.

    You see?

    So I’m just wondering where the Jews are that agree that ALL people are entitled to self-determination. Palestinians and Germans.

    Can you count the number of such Jews on one hand?

    and if so, why is that? What are we to make of it?

    • Replies: @cassandra
    , @Jeff Stryker
  450. Sean says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Initially they were pressurized to hand over any gold and jewels they might have. Subsequently they were victims in the purges of high officials that expanded until the NKVD were affected. While some Jews did die as ordinary Russians died, of starvation or shot and shoveled into mass graves (containing hundreds of thousands of bodies in some cases) the fate of Jews flowed from them having wealth, positions of prominence, and luxuries beyond the dreams of any other ethnic group in Soviet Russia.

  451. @Anonymous

    Back then, nationalists (OK, let’s use the National Socialists) wanted to assert control not just over their own country, but over other countries where they had ethnic ties (Lebensraum). Today, nationalism seeks more to take back control over their own country, but it is more economically centered and not desirous of taking any other sovereign nation over. Back then, the backlash against immigration was more economic and today it seems more cultural.

  452. @anonymous

    That Hitler was a criminal, a third rate intellect, that he was probable being used to destroy Germany never seems to cross David Irving’s mind.

    Let me guess, it was the Illuminati, wasn’t it.

    Does it matter that Germany was pretty much already destroyed before Hitler came to power? Were they just trying to ensure Germany was destroyed for all time?

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @anonymous
    , @anonymous
  453. @Jeff Stryker

    [quote]So they could not have wielded that much power.[/quote] The period we are talking about is the early Bolshevik period. Jews such as Trotsky, Sverdlov, Uritsky and Zinoviev did wield real power in that period. And as Ron Unz points out, when Lenin died, 3 out of 5 of his potential successors were Jewish. Stalin was Gentile, but due to his exceptional ruthlessness, he eliminated his rivals. However it was not the end of Jews in the Communist power structure. Stalin still allowed Jews to remain in the power structure so long as they demonstrated absolute loyalty to him. Jews played a strong part in organising the war economy of the USSR in WW II. After the war, Stalin appointed Jews to serve in governments in several of the newly occupied east European countries.

  454. jsm says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Well, if the 25 percent of Whites who beat it were part of the 31 percent who voted against ending Apartheid, then that makes sense. They voted NO to destroying the nation, but when the nation-wreckers passed it anyway, they skedaddled.

    The question about the Jews is, what proportion of Jews voted for ending apartheid, as compare to the percentage who left? If the percentage of Jews who left is greater than the percentage who voted NO, then that’s galling. Vote yes on destroying the nation and then, when your machinations come true on your countrymen, beat it, that is rank hypocrisy.

    The Jewish population of SA is half what it was during apartheid. Did half the Jews vote NO to ending apartheid? Color me skeptical about that.

  455. @Anonymous

    Now here is something Jews should really to be praised for. Look at farmers they stayed and they are being killed.
    This is the example why you newer find a farmer Jew.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    , @Jeff Stryker
  456. jsm says:
    @CanSpeccy

    <bsome of those ordinary Jews, the majority of whom are non-religious American firsters,

    Yeah, no.

    The majority of Jews did NOT vote America First. Trump got only 35.2% of Jewish vote, which means 64.8% are NOT America-Firsters.

    https://anepigone.blogspot.com/2017/03/detailed-demographic-breakdown-of-2016.html

    And, yeah, that would be the non-religious ones, cuz the majority of religious ones DID vote for Trump, 54%.

    https://religionnews.com/2017/09/13/most-us-jews-oppose-trump-but-the-orthodox-stick-with-him/

    DUDE! Really! This ain’t some Fundamentalist Israel-Firster Christian Zionist forum. This is Unz. We’re on to the stuff you’re flinging. You can’t get away with your BS here.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Anon
  457. mcohen says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The problem is your eyes.the better you look the more you see.

  458. Sean says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    Bavarian Illuminati. You may want to read Fire in the Minds of Men: Origins of the Revolutionary Faith by noted historian and Russia specialist James H Billington before you espouse the bien pensant idea of Illuminati as a joke. According to Billington, the creators of Bolshevism drew on a “Russian tradition of violence and on German concepts of organization”, and the influence of the Illuminati is now as underestimated as it was once exaggerated

    • Replies: @Peripatetic commenter
  459. cassandra says:
    @Rurik

    Maybe this will explain the correlation between resistance to EU immigration and reluctance to support Palestine; I don’t think this politic is exclusive to the Jewish community.

    The EU’s support of African and Middle-Eastern immigration is imbecilic, given evidence of the Wahhabist support of radical Islam, and the doctrines promoted in the Koran, among many other reasons. “Islamophobia” as used by the media is a propagandistic misnomer: there’s a lot of rational cause for concern.

    So, while I’m disgusted with many of Israel’s policies toward them, I’m reluctant to blindly support the Palestinians because I don’t know how much of their anger is from disenfranchisement, and how much arises from doctrinaire Islamic hostility to the Jews as kaffir. Christians in Lebanon haven’t fared very well. (I doubt that supporters of Palestine have looked into this closely). I see the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as a fight between two scorpions, which I hope both will lose.

    Many critics of Islam and immigration DO support Israel’s policies, though I suspect, like Palestinian supporters, they’re not looking very critically at the side they’re defending.

    Re: “allowing orcs to toss acid in their baby’s faces, when they’re not gang raping their school girls wholesale”

    The orcs originated as tortured mutilations of the beautiful elves, associated with the (Anglo-Saxon) west. Orcs populated the east, just like those abominable teutons, slavs and Russians do in Europe.

    You should have used “Southrons” instead for consistency with Middle Earth racism, I mean geography.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Rurik
  460. annamaria says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “…why were they worse off under it than other Soviet citizens?”
    – You still did not get it. The Jews were not worse off than other Soviet citizens. They simply could not stop quetching, in a reflexive manner, about their special victimhood and special sufferings and antisemitism — even after their ilk had been involved in the horrific mass slaughter of Russians.
    Who exactly was “worse off” — Lazar Kaganovich, the wolf of Kremlin? The multitude of Jewish apparatchiks in the communist parties of the Soviet republics, like the crooked Khodorkovsky? The Moscow academia?
    “… their kids are not subjected to the horrors of poor integrated neighborhoods and schools” — what is that? There were no “integrated schools” in the Soviet Union. There was, however, a Jewish district of Birobidzhan, created for Soviet Jews, where the Jews did not want to resettle, despite the alleged antisemitism in Russia. “Yiddish writer David Bergelson played a large part in promoting Birobidzhan, although he himself did not really live there” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birobidzhan
    – You need to peruse this:
    “Labor camps were run under Naftaly Frenkel’ system “No work, no food”. This system was responsible for the high death toll of the camps:” https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.politics.bush/Bw-2Hlg16rw
    Matvei Berman “helped develop the GULAG system of [death] camps:” https://www.secret-bases.co.uk/wiki/Matvei_Berman
    – And here is a tragicomedy featuring Naftaly Frenkel’s distant relative from Israel: http://thesaker.is/bloody-monday-grandnephew-of-gulag-organizer-stabbed-the-echo-of-moscow-editor/

  461. @Sean

    There must be some kind of way out of here

    /me backs away slowly to avoid the crazies!

    • Replies: @Sean
  462. Anonymous[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @cassandra

    Many critics of Islam and immigration DO support Israel’s policies

    Dream on. You’ve underestimated the goyim (once again). No one sane supports your illegitimate, genocidal, shit-hole “policies”.

    We know about the “dancing Israelis” on 9/11 – who believed that the white goyim will hate the non-white goyim for eternity and side with Israel’s fuckery.

    We’ve seen Jews across the world cheer every Muslim terrorist rape and carnage in White goyim domains – who believed that the white goyim will hate the non-white goyim for eternity and side with Israel’s fuckery.

    …and we’re not buying it. You’ll be facing ALL of us in the near future.

    • Agree: Rurik, Kolo
    • Replies: @cassandra
  463. utu says:
    @German_reader

    You made me think of a passage in “The beautiful Mrs. Seidenman” where Mrs. Seidenman is arrested by Gestapo in Warsaw but manages to be extricated form it and then the narrator compares German Gestapo and its mentality representing German character to that of NKVD and (((Asiatic))) mentality which in no circumstances would allow Mrs. Seidenman being let go.

  464. Bill says:
    @Dan Hayes

    It’s both.

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
  465. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jsm

    Trump got only 35.2% of Jewish vote, which means 64.8% are NOT America-Firsters.

    So you equate being a Democrat for the death of America!

    And, yeah, that would be the non-religious ones, cuz the majority of religious ones DID vote for Trump, 54%.

    Well why not. He’s a staunch supporter of Israel, and most if not all of his grandchildren are being raises as Jews.

    We’re on to the stuff you’re flinging.

    No. You’re just another of Unz’s idiot anti-Semitic chorus.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  466. Rurik says:
    @cassandra

    I don’t know how much of their anger is from disenfranchisement, and how much arises from doctrinaire Islamic hostility to the Jews

    the Jews lived in Palestine side by side in relative harmony with Muslims and Christians for hundreds of years. Just as Jews thrive in harmony in Iran, and other Muslim nations.

    So considering that fact, it seems prima facia evidence that the hostility the Palestinians have for the Zionist Jews- who murdered their relatives, often in the most barbaric ways, in order to mass-terrorize the Pals into fleeing literally for their lives into the desert, whereupon these same Jewish terrorist murderers then simply claimed their land and homes and farms and businesses as their own.

    I suspect that has something to do with the hostility.

    And if that wasn’t enough, they’ve relentlessly tormented, murdered, tortured and oppressed the Palestinians with the apparent aim to drive them so insane with helplessness and despair, that they simply die of humanity’s indifference.

    The orcs originated as tortured mutilations of the beautiful elves

    however they orginated, what I’ve seen are the characterization is the recent movies, and from what I’ve seen, the orcs in the movies don’t even come close to the sub-human fiends that would toss acid in a baby’s face.

    I owe an apology to Tolkien’s orcs

    for comparing them to the sub-human scum in England who did that.

    • Agree: Mike P
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @cassandra
  467. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    I heard about it. She went to a beach town, I believe the infamous Myrtle Beach was kidnapped, held tortured and raped by Orcs and fed to alligators.

    Check amren storm front and C of CC for the truth about Orc on human crime.

  468. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    To respond on all points to your lengthy comment is more than I presently have time for.

    But briefly, there are aspects of your view that I share. However, justice will not flow from injustice. Because someone has a last name indicative of possible Jewish extraction, Unz for instance, does not tell you anything about their beliefs, moral, political or religious, or if indeed they have a religion.

    In the West, most Jews as identified by last name are not religious. Most just go to work each day to earn what they need to raise a family, educate their kids, and hopefully save a bit for their old age. Most love the place where they grew up, and wish well of the country where they live.

    To subject such people to group condemnation is not only unjust but counterproductive. All groups have their control mechanisms. The Catholic church warns straying members of the flock of the risk of Hell and eternal damnation. The Jewish establishment can hold the allegiance of many at the periphery of the tribe by warning of the age-old, goyish mental disease of anti-Semitism. .Unz seems to be working to stoke the fear of anti-Semitism the anti-Semitism of those filled with visions of Jews drinking Christian babies’ blood, and praying earnestly to the Devil.

    The greatest villains in the war on the European peoples are the indigenous elites, who have always hated the common people (at least since the industrial revolution), and are glad to work with a tiny minority of ambitious and unscrupulous Jews, people like George Soros and Hollywood scum to destroy their own people in the interests of the globalist Money Power, which encompasses the rich of every ethnicity.

  469. renfro says:
    @Anonymous

    Agree. After all the tactics in the Protocols are standard procedure for the overthrow/subversion of a nation….so why wouldn’t the Jews have written it out as their own plan. Of course the Jews always ascribe everything to be someone else’s doing.

    Full text of “Bolshevik propaganda. Hearings before a subcommittee of the Committee on the judiciary, United States Senate, Sixty-fifth Congress, third session and thereafter, pursuant to S. Res. 439 and 469. February 11, 1919, to March 10, 1919″

    https://archive.org/stream/cu31924030480051/cu31924030480051_djvu.txt

  470. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Here is the story of one Palestinian Greek Orthodox family.

    The family lived in Jerusalem for centuries. The father had a good job working for the city of Jerusalem. Mothers dowry was some small farms from which the family got rent. They lived in a 10 room house in the Christian Arab quarter. There were 8 children, mostly boys

    When WW2 ended and the Jews started their terrorism. One of the older boys was killed by a Jewish terrorist bomb set off in a busy street.

    1948 zionists bribe threaten and extort UN delegates and Israel becomes a Jewish state and Jews drive out Palestinians. Father was fired from his job with no pension of course. The tenant farms were stolen and given to Jews. No compensation of course.

    One day when the youngest boy was 4 armed Jewish soldiers invaded the home and gave the family one hour to pack up and leave. Being Greek Orthodox the family were sheltered in a pilgrims hostel.

    The church sponsored many Christian families to America. That family arrived in Pasadena Ca. The older boys went to work the younger ones to school. The youngest attended Pasadena Jr college for a year and was enraged by Jewish instructors and their pro Jew anti Palestinian propaganda

    The family’s last name was Sirhan. The youngest boy’s first name was Sirhan.

    There are millions of Palestinians whose homes farms and businesses were confiscated by Zionists.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Anon
    , @refl
  471. @cassandra

    Apparent Baby Boomer-era Cassandra asked: “As Jackie Gleason used to say back in the day, “…and AWAY we go.”

    Hi (Mama?) Cass,

    Re; Above quotation, & since you displayed knowledge on 1950s-1960s TV shows, I am anxious to know if you’re familiar with the popular sitcom “Hogan’s Heroes”?

    Fyi, The show’s German officers were made out to be impressionable dolts and P.O.W. Colonel Hogan, brilliantly deceptive, a modern day CIA/Mossad composite.

    Before I go away (like Jackie Gleason!), do you have any idea why the producers of “Hogan’s Heroes” never had its cast attempt cunning sabotage of the process involving gassing 6 million Jews?

    Selah, “back in the day” the dumb goy Stalag 13 Colonel Klink: “Dismissed!”

    • Replies: @cassandra
  472. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    So now we know for sure. You are a Jew, a very chauvinist pro Zionist Jew.

    If, if, you did grow up near Detroit, I bet it was Grosse Point or Bloomfield Hills.

  473. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jsm

    1. Religious Jews are a minority of Jews.

    2. The professional jews that is the self appointed leadership; ADL AJC AZC Presidents of thousands of Jewish organizations are one and all non or religious Jews and 100% pro Zionist. J Street and a few others are not so extremely anti Palestinian as most, but they are all Jewish chauvinist and anti Palestinian.

    The non religious professional Jew spokesmen keep the religious conservative pro Republican minority firmly in their place.

  474. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy

    To subject such people to group condemnation is not only unjust but counterproductive.

    I agree

    so kindly tell me when or where, in my over a million words on this site, have I ever done so?

    The only thing I’ve done, is ask a (perhaps inconvenient) question about where are the Jews who agree that it’s wrong to genocide the Pals and it’s wrong to demand Europe commit suicide.

    And if you’d have been following the tone of this inquiry, it was motivated by my conversations with others here who feel I’m far too forgiving of ‘the Jews’. I’ve been pointing out that many of them are very excellent people, and I know that’s true.

    But then I also was sort of wondering, they all seem to either support the Pals, but then don’t support the West.

    Or, they support the West, (Trump, Brexit, Putin) but they don’t support the Pals.

    So where are the Jews, who like myself, support the West and support the Pals.

    That’s all I’m asking. Does asking such a question amount to a blanket condemnation of all Jews?

    I doubt that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @CanSpeccy
  475. Anonymous[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    We’re all supposed to simultaneously genuflect to the myriad Holocaust museums with self-reflection for what ‘we’ did to those people, while at the same time, not only participating in the genocide of the Palestinians, but also our own.

    Bravo. Powerful words.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  476. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    But then why do your people and your righteous cause unmitigated harm by assassinating a loved icon of America, right when the American people were most sympathetic to that family?

    Stupid, blind rage?

    If I’m a Palestinian, then I want people to see that I’m a good person, who if allowed to tell my story, will help perhaps to undo some of the evils my people are subjected to daily.

    But if I murder a leader to show my mettle, then I’m only playing into the Zionist’s wet dreams.

    such a tragic tragedy.

    what I’d like to see is a grass root campaign by the justice-loving people of the world to demand the release of Ahed Tamimi and Tommy Robinson.

    If people weren’t so parochial and narrow minded, they’d see that both these brave people are being persecuted by the same Fiend. But too many brain-washed Brits will say ‘fuck that terrorist chick, she shouldn’t be slapping men with guns’.

    And too many tribal Muslims will say ‘fuck that racist, let him rot in prison for his anti-Muslim ways’.

    The Fiend is playing these people against each other, as it destroys both Palestine and England.

    The world needs to have solidarity against the Fiend. Muslim, Christian, Alt-right, gay, straight and whatever.

    We all need to say with one powerful voice, that ALL people are entitled to self-determination! And if y0u deny it to the British people, then you have no right to demand it for Palestine, and vice versa.

    • Replies: @Anon
  477. Anonymous[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    So where are the Jews, who like myself, support the West and support the Pals.

    Almost nowhere.

    The Tribe’s crutch is deeply dysgenic. They don’t know it ,but it’s a dry evolutionary branch. Welcome to the new dawn.

  478. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:

    Caused by the Khazars, who then destroyed Germany twice.

  479. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Anon

    Bond is empire vs empire. Bond is a tool of imperial power than of freedom.

    One of the driving forces behind the Bond novels is British resentment of their loss of empire and their new status as a third-rate power. And (to an even greater extent) British jealousy of American power and British contempt for American crassness and stupidity.

    One of the things you notice in the novels is that Bond does not like the post-war world one little bit, which presumably reflects Fleming’s views.

    It’s amusing that the Bond novels were seen at the time as being a new and fresh approach to spy fiction when in fact they’re very backward-looking. Actually it’s their backward-looking feel that provides much of their charm. Fleming was very much in the established tradition of the British spy thriller, of writers like Dennis Wheatley and Sax Rohmer.

  480. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    The only thing I’ve done, is ask a (perhaps inconvenient) question about where are the Jews who agree that it’s wrong to genocide the Pals and it’s wrong to demand Europe commit suicide.

    It’s a great question. (Although isn’t it also true that there are few Gentiles to be found who hold that view?)

  481. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Agree.

  482. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Your comment defines anti Semitic as stating the facts about who did what in Russia between 1870 and 2018

  483. Seraphim says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    The cooperation between Weimar Germany and Soviet Russia is no news. It was always known, although kept under wraps for obvious reasons.
    It was the result of:
    ‘The Treaty of Rapallo, the agreement signed on 16 April 1922 between Germany and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR) under which each renounced all territorial and financial claims against the other following the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and World War I.
    The two governments also agreed to normalise their diplomatic relations and to “co-operate in a spirit of mutual goodwill in meeting the economic needs of both countries”.
    Secretly the two sides established elaborate military cooperation, while publicly denying it’. But it was published at Riga and reprinted in the London ‘Times’ on 6 May 1922.
    One of the objectives was cooperation against the ‘Polish menace’. It is the ‘seed’ of the ‘surprising’ ‘Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact’ of late.
    The ‘Hitler was saved by Stalin’ is rather fanciful. The Nazis vehemently denounced the collaboration and accused its signatories of being “November Criminals”.
    One thing is sure though. The treaty enabled the training of German officers in Russia in the conditions of the limitations imposed on German Army by the Versailles Peace. That would explain also how Russians had so reliable intelligence sources in the Wehrmacht.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @ChuckOrloski
  484. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    What makes you think I’m a Palestinian? I’m not, I’m an old American as we call ourselves and Hildabeast calls deplorable. And the Kennedys, especially RFK were never icons of mine. RFK was a media creation.

    I like to tell the story of what happened to the Sirhan family as an example because Sirhan is the most famous Palestinian refugee in America. Probably most famou Pasadena high school grad in America as well.

    I gather you approve of what happened to the Sirhan family?

    How would you like armed soldiers stomping into your home and ordering you to pack up in one hour and leave with just what you can carry?? That after firing you from the job you’ve held for 25 years ? How’d you like to leave a 10 room house for a couple rooms in a pilgrims hostel with 7 kids in tow? How’d you like to leave your home and possessions with just what you could carry?

    Being a Jewish chauvinist I suppose you think what the Zionist invaders did to the Sirhans and millions of others was right and moral and good and just.

  485. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    I read Jewish publications regularly. You can find them online. There are several constant themes.

    1. Israel has the absolute right to expel and genocide the Palestinians who have no right to live in Israel, Gaza or anywhere in earth

    2 Muslims Arabs and Africans have the absolute right to invade and colonize Europe. Anyone who objects is a racist who deserved prison and losing his her job.

    3 Anyone who objects to transgenders and gay marriage is guilty of hate crime.

    4. This years foreign affairs cause is that America must invade and destroy Iran as a few years ago the cause was that America must invade and destroy Iraq.

    The Jewish press, having triumphed in the transgender cause hasn’t yet figured out this years internal affairs perversion

    • Replies: @Anon
  486. Bukowski says:
    @refl

    The authors of the blog that you linked to –

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com

    have written a book called Prolonging the Agony : How The Anglo American Establishment Deliberately Extended WW1 By Three and a Half Years. They write about the Gallipoli campaign in some of the chapters – “Yet another scandal was the complete failure of the Gallipoli campaign. Because the Russians had suffered such vast losses on the Eastern Front, the Czar demanded evidence that war was worthwhile. The promise of Constantinople was the prize that animated him most and the Gallipoli campaign was concocted by the Secret Elite to make it appear that a serious effort was underway to attack Turkey and win Constantinople for Russia. It was set up to fail. You may think this impossible but Prolonging The Agony provides detailed evidence that the campaign was an orchestrated farce from start to finish. But it convinced the Russians and kept them in the war.”

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/2018/03/06/prolonging-the-agony-2-the-full-hidden-history-exposed/

    I have ordered a copy of this book to read myself after being intrigued after looking at the blog. You can get it from Amazon, The Book Depository and other dealers. As an Australian I am particularly interested to find out if the ANZACs were considered expendable and used as colonial cannon fodder.

    • Replies: @refl
  487. Hibernian says:
    @Jon Halpenny

    “If true it would give an indication of the evil nature of the British Empire.”

    As if any more were needed than we already have.

  488. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Orwell’s pigs are not communists, certain pigs invented communisn because they were the cleverest animals in the barnyard.

    But they are not Jews either because Molotov (Squealer), Stalin (Napoleon) and all other pigs are not Jews. You should argue with Tyrion2 who brought this up before I did and to whom the topic is more interesting. As I understand it your argument is now that the “good” pigs are Jews and the “bad” pigs are Gentiles, which I suppose makes sense but is somewhat trivial.

    And 1984 has Goldstein

    Goldstein may or may not actually exist, and while he is a Trotskyish figure he is certainly not a good guy. There are no good guys in 1984.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Sean
  489. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The analogies between South Africa and the United States are vivid in that respect-

    The group of whites, though for different reasons, who are most subject to the ructions of South Africa are whites from old Dutch/English colonial stock while the Jews, an urban group with a fluid skill-set (Dentists, businessmen, lawyers) need only pick up a suitcase.

    British South Africans had links to other countries. They could move to the UK.

    Jews, having never been allowed to own land, were not going to be the farmers. One can practice dentistry in Australia as easily as they can on the Cape.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  490. Molecule says:
    @refl

    good mention! Herbert Hoover. The young Herbert Hoover, fresh out of college, was appointed by Schiff to travel the world, developing a report on bank reserves (in ground and bullion) of major nations. At the time all international settlements were in gold.

    One has to ask, who financed the Bolshevik Revolutions. To pull off their stunts, revolutionaries like Trotsky, needs gold, and lots of it.

    Herbert Hoover was their supplier. As a young lad, he was in charge of Belgian Relief Fund. Basically, a handful of displaced Belgian “refugees” needs socks, tents, blankets and the occasional bowl of oatmeal.

    According to his own autobiography, for this operation, Hoover was given a budget of $20 Million, monthly. With gold then at $20 per oz, that’s 1,000,000 ounces of gold, per month. For a few pairs of socks and a few bowls of oatmeal.

    Hoover’s Beligan Relief Fund controlled massive infrastructure across Europe and the Baltic. He controlled “privateer” gunships that cruised the Baltic, some with 12″ guns. He controlled private railroad lines with locomotives and rolling stock that went from Lisbon to Yalta.

    The Bolshevik revolutions would not have been possible without financial and logistical support supplied by a young Herberie Hoover. He worked with Emile Francqui.

    Trotsky’s most famous scholary study at the time was translated as “In Defence of [State-sponsored] Terrorism.” In the US, when I did my research, Google would not return meaningful search results unless I forced the British spelling of the title, spelling defence with a c instead of an s.

    Trostky, Lenin, Francqui, et al, all needed financing. In the turbublence of an early 1900s revolution, that meant gold.

    Hoover operated the Lonton cutout, that supplied the gold, railroad cars and locomotives, and privateer gunships in the Baltic, that made the Revolution possible.

    In the US, he is considered to be a godfather of “conservatism.”

  491. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    What are some publications worth reading regularly?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @pogohere
  492. @James N. Kennett

    It is commonplace refrain in any US post-industrial city.

    The middle-class whites and of course Jews like British South Africans and Jews, tend to have a more fluid skill set (Detroit’s engineers were middle-class whites; its business owners were Jews).

    As soon as the city goes down the tubes, they’re gone. British South Africans maintained ties to the UK. In Detroit, the middle-class white engineer moved to Texas or California. The Southerners moved back South.

    Alas, the Polish-Americans, children of immigrants or immigrants themselves, were trapped in Detroit. Their property was worth nothing anyhow, at some point they could not give it away. Their skill-set was a no-purchase in the rest of the economy. They were trapped, as the Boer farmers of Dutch/French stock with no connections to their ancestral countries are trapped.

    • Replies: @Anon
  493. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    In the foreign affairs department archives of the US Europe, S America Japan , China and most governments are numerous reports from diplomats stationed in Russia 1870 to 1918 that the pogroms did not happen; that the pogroms were just tales told to force Europe and the Americas to accept hordes of Jewish immigrants

    A major reason the Jews wanted to
    leave Russia and its territories was to avoid the draft. Jews demanded and got full civil rights after the 1860s Russian reforms. When the Jews realized that civic responsibilities such as the draft came with the granting of full civil rights they left

    Other causes were that free secondary schools and universities produced a large educated class of goyim who competed with Jews for white collar occupations. One factor was switching tax collection from Jewish private contractors to a government department staffed by civil servants.

    That’s why Jews wanted to leave Russia, the draft and competition from the goyim for Jewish occupations.

    • Replies: @Anon
  494. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    After the Treaty of Rapallo the German Air Force moved to Russia for training manufacture and R and D

  495. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    In the foreign affairs department archives of the US Europe, S America Japan , China and most governments are numerous reports from diplomats stationed in Russia 1870 to 1918 that the pogroms did not happen; that the pogroms were just tales told to force Europe and the Americas to accept hordes of Jewish immigrants

    Do you have a source for this?

    (If you have anything on the draft and education theories, it would also be appreciated.)

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon787
    , @kgbgb
  496. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    How is law a fluid skill-set?

  497. Paw says:
    @Seraphim

    The insanity after 1917 revolution NOW moved and OBSESSES THE ANGLO SAXON WORLD.
    Clearly as the consequences of the 2001 revolution..Neocons and their power and billions.
    You can see the difference between the BIBLE and the Capital /K.Marx/, the Protocols ,as they seems to by an ideological ,revolutionary ideas, to profit the same people.
    Now the connections from the Reserve Bank of the USA/Schiff too was there/,, the World crisis, 1929, fascism of Hitler and the communism of Lenin and Trockij…Is worth of a notice…
    Further there are many details of ordinary life in the East and the Middle, South Europe that are significant to these days.. As from there from anonymity other ,came all..
    Why leave out those brothers NOBEL ,a powerfull goodness of their dynamite, removing the Russian raw materials, and providing needed employment , for revolutionares /Stalin , and others /?
    And many helping Russians and other magnates of utmost richess…Paying for the future hopefull robbery of the all Russia richess.
    As these bolsheviks terrorist did not existed and lived from the air only.
    So why good president Roosewelt Ted ,sent commissions to Russia in order to investigate , crimes against them, recruitment for the coups, and revolutions, financing underground terrrorism against the Tzar and the Russian people, , around 1900, Mr.UNZ .
    Why the star of the TV and the Fake Media , Usama Bin laden in his hatred , did not consider the possibility of crushing into the WALL STREET , as it would, put the USA to its knees economically and stopped, or at least postponed for long time , his end !!

  498. Paw says:
    @Bukowski

    It is now the USA turn, to go through its revolution no matter how you call it.?

  499. @CanSpeccy

    Jews are knee-jerk Democrats mostly out of fear of police states and Fascism, which they associate with Republicans.

    • Replies: @Anon
  500. Paw says:
    @Heros

    What they the Fake Media capitalize on is to deny connections between the events.
    In 1921 the Polish and international army defeated the Bolsheviks and then massacred , yeas massacred them as they had no arms….over one million of the Russian war prisoners.
    It is no secret that Stalin had a very big thirst for HIS REVENGE.
    15-20 thousands at Katyn was not enough for him by far. And he was proud a hecertainly did not want it , to stay that secret ..
    Sikorski was killed , but by accident only ,as his Czech pilot was very experienced and he and others who stayed alive confirmed it as the fact , when it was investigated…

  501. Paw says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Recently very ferocious explosion of Trump against the Iran , show for the fact , that he too serve the Izrael interests only.
    Netanjahu wants to provoke the war , where the Usa Army would have to attack and destroy Iran and then shall come the BANKERS and Izrael to steal the huge Iran riches !!!

  502. Paw says:
    @Rurik

    [You should make much more of an effort to follow good standards of spacing, punctuation, grammar, and diction, and also try to void all-caps.]

    President Wilson was too servant of the Reserve Bank and the Bankers.
    Introduced the tax. Broke his promises. He guaranteed the security for the France , and did not deliver it and is known those 20 years was only THE PAUSE BETWEEN THE WARS !!

  503. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Verymuchalive

    There’s more to a civilization than writing. For instance, Stonehenge was finished a thousand years before 1450BC. That required a complicated and very well organized civilization with advanced tools and mechanical means to move and place those stones upright.

    Chinese domestication of animals, rice growing and the complicated systems of terraces and irrigation to grow rice 6000 BC and silk weaving 4,000 years ago are as much of an indication of civilization as writing.

  504. Paw says:
    @Sean

    Lenin was sent by the German general staff as their agent , to destroy the Russia from inside. No secret. He was paid in millions of Gold Marks..
    So the Bolsheviks could hijacks the revolution of the Russian people…
    Then Stalin hijacked the Trockij and Lenin revolution from them. So much of vicious ferocity on Stalin and others, from all the west Media to this day….shows it.
    It does not matter now that the Bolsheviks made the disappearance trick from the world , THE MONSTROUS HATRED OF THE RUSSIA CONTINUES and that prove , what was going on so far.
    Just the roberries of all countries in the Middle and East ….And the insanity when they resist.
    These money too contributed to win that revolution…
    So international bankers could rob , the huge Russian riches

  505. Paw says:
    @Anonymous

    While the Russains were busy to defeat the Fascism , the USA Army was busy removing the huge treasures /Dulles/ in the South Germany and transporting them to the USA. The Us had the very huge gold treasure in the Fort Knox. No secret.
    When it was gone the President Nixon cancelled in 1971 the Gold Standard of the Dollar.

  506. Paw says:
    @ploni almoni

    Historians estimate there were about 15o thousands Jewish soldiers , 30 lower and 15 thousands higher officers , about 30 generals and even the Marshals in Hitler Wehrmacht.. Air marshal Milch, for instance … . Goring declared publicly : “I decide who is the jew and who is not !!!
    While he massacred thousands of real Germans in the Night of the Long Knives.1934. And before and afterwards…

  507. Paw says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    No, the Russians were promised the Turkish Strait, for the help to fight against the Germans in the First World War.
    They got nothing, after.
    It is interesting ,that the Germans got much more all the time after they started their criminal wars, untill today and never paid any reparations. Most huge help from the USA , the Davies and the Young plans !!! Winners like the Russians never got anything.
    For instance as winning nations they /Russians/ were entitled to get one part of the defeated fascists ITALY including the Roma.
    Remeber the defeated nations like the French and the British got part of the Germany !!! As though they were not able to fight the Germans and winning anything !!!

  508. Paw says:
    @Anonymous

    I believe there were two kinds of the Jews. Victims and Rulers . Who decides of the fate those to be sacrificed. Remember there is the religion involved too…

  509. Paw says:
    @German_reader

    Remember , there was a sect in the Jewish history from which the other the Christians hijacked through the J.Christ the power over the world and then the Bolsheviks come ….with the same aim..
    To rule over the world…
    This sect wanted to gain the Power from the Romans. But they were defeated twice. Then they spread to the whole world…

  510. Paw says:
    @annamaria

    [If you want your comments published, improve your use of spelling, capitalization, and grammar, and also stop producing so many short ones, with relatively little substantive content. Otherwise, maybe you would be happier on a different website.]

    Who knows and who cares about 20 million of dead in the civil war /19120-21/and further 60 millions of dead in the 2.world war. Many times over…But only Goyms…No help for them only hostlity…
    About hundreds of millions in the Opium Wars, the victims of opium in China forced upon them by the Western Imperialist and the the MAO Revolution by the Marxism Bible.

  511. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    My sources are books I’ve read in 3 major university libraries. Unlike Ron and Jilles, I never listed or summarized them. So sorry.

    The draft story is very common among American Jews. It backfired on the gr gr uncle of a friend. They lived in the Austrian part of Poland. The 2 brothers were too young for the draft when WW1 broke out, but the family made plans. A few months before the oldest boy turned 17, the draft age the 16&15 yr old boys were sent on the standard smuggling route to NYC.

    A year later the oldest was 18, the US entered the war. He was drafted and killed as soon as he got to France. The war ended before my friends gr grandfather was drafted.

    I looked on duck duck go and typed in 19th century Russia draft Jews. The best I found was this Ronaldmiller.com. Miller was researching his family genealogy and the standard grandpa fled Russia to avoid the draft story. It has a lot of information about Russian Jews and the draft.

    Too much internet info about Jews and Russia is just the standard weep and wail that Jews never did anything wrong in 4,000 years but people are mean to them.

    The competition of newly educated workers with the white collar Jews is a standard Jewish explanation of why they left.

    The occidental observer Dr Kevin Macdonald archives are on the internet and might have the information.

    Sorry I didn’t list all the sources I read.

  512. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paw

    After WW 2 Russia got 11 Central European nations. As America looted S W Germany Russia looted N E Germany.

  513. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Los Angeles Jewish Journal is the biggest 5 towns jewish times is suburban NYC. The Forward is national.

  514. Sean says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    All I could find to compete with your witticism was an authority of the very highest eminence on both Russia and revolutions. Let me try and redeem myself by explaining what Billington meant by “German concepts of organization”.

    https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=11678
    Weishaupt was clearly influenced by the popularity of Freemasonry, whose first German lodges were established in the late 1730s. But unlike many Masonic lodges, the group’s structure was both highly secretive and rigidly hierarchical. Members of the lowest order were not always aware of their superiors–in effect (even within the organization), the profile and size of the group’s membership remained a secret. Likewise, secret code names for both individuals and place names were used in internal correspondence to disguise identities (for example, Weishaupt was referred to as “Spartacus”).

  515. @CanSpeccy

    ” To subject such people to group condemnation is not only unjust but counterproductive. ”
    Who does this ?
    Gilad Atzmon, born in Israel, who calls himself ‘Palestinian jew’, wants collective psychotherapy for all jews.
    One cannot deny the existence of AIPAC, neocons, AEI, ADL, whatever, jewish control of the majority of the western media, the activities of Soros, Netanyahu’s war mongering, the Gaza concentration camp.
    I fear that the jewish identity of ‘eternally persecuted innocent victims’ has a lot to do with the mischief that jews cause in the world, such as Bush’s promise to AIPAC to wage war on Iraq if he got the jewish vote.
    I mentioned this before, around 1890 one Rothschild wrote to another ‘the only enemy of jews is jews’.
    Why does not a Soros understand what he does to jewry by his Open Society foundation ?
    Hungarian elections were about Soros.
    Why cannot Israel understand that continuing like this must lead to a disaster ?
    More or less understanding why a group of people behaves as it does is not condemnation.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  516. @Paw

    Where does one get “First Lessons in the Magical History of Utopia” as authorized by the Ruritanian Activist Teachers’ Society?

  517. Heros says:
    @Ron Unz

    First of all, I tip my hat Ron, you have made WordPress jump through hoops, and I love all the little details you add like these, where do you find the time?

    Since you seem to be accepting suggestions, why not help the worst commentors to stop lurking and trolling by having a little blue 6 pointed star button labelled “Jewish” next to the login? Then you could add two little buttons above the comments, one with the 6 pointed star, and the other with a hakenkreuz? Since jews consider any goyim who are not zionists to be anti-semite nazi’s, this would allow jews to filter away the inferior goy comments presenting new revealed truths, allow jews to stop wasting their precious time, and then jews could just read the superior jewish comments laced with the same old centuries of jewish lies.

    Among other benefits, it would give unz.com plausible deniability of having forced gods chosen people to suffer offense through the dissemination of “hateful” truths that get jews so upset they call you Amalek, wage lawfare against you, try to ruin your life, and even try to have you thrown in jail.

    Ironically, people who click on the nazi cross, would suddenly no longer be called nazi, anti-semite, redneck, kkk, inbred or hick. Wally, Rurik, and many others would no longer have to waste their time trying to convince jews who lie in the comments section to accept that they are just typical lying jews.

    It seems like a win/win to me.

    • LOL: Mike P
  518. refl says:
    @Bukowski

    The story is indeed desastrous for the image Australians have allways had about their sacrifice in the Great War. Sending the ANZAC troups to die at Gallipoli kept the British public from finding out about the deliberate incompetence of that campaign. Apparently, not even the Army general staff knew. And then Lord Kitchener ended up torpedoed on a stormy night of the Shetlands – the only casualty of such high rank in the war. And just on time! By the way, when time came to pull the plug on Gallipoli the conduit was a journalist by the name of Keith Murdoch.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  519. refl says:
    @Anon

    So you still believe Sirhan Sirhan shot RFK. By the way it is interessting to learn he was orthodox. I allways had taken him for a muslim and wondered if a muslim would react to a gordious girl in a polka dot dress.

    • Replies: @Anon
  520. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    “Let me guess, it was the Illuminati, wasn’t it.”

    I don’t know. What I do “know” is that the official story is a lie but David Irving, who followed the money, and told us about it, just ignores what that means. Maybe he is an honest scholar and he is really “in love” with Hitler and all that bunch of criminals. Seems very bizarre for a man of such considerable intellect to take that band of intellectually limited criminals seriously as David Irving does.

    “Does it matter that Germany was pretty much already destroyed before Hitler came to power?”

    You simply can not compare the destruction and suffering Germany went through after the I WW and what happened after the II WW.

    After the I WW you had , in spite of economic crisis, an independent country. After the II WW you have a vassal state helping its master to kill as many Arabs as possible…And tomorrow , to kill as many Persians as possible.

  521. Heros says:
    @Rurik

    “Never in my life have I ever attacked a Jew for being a Jew. Rather, I’ve always pointed out that there are very many very decent Jews. Always have.

    Do you always point out that there are very decent Muslims and Jamaicans and who ever else that the jews are using against us, before you mention them? I haven’t seen it.

    The Protocols are one of the main topics of this thread and have been discussed pretty thoroughly. The Jewish reaction in this comment section has been completely to character, and all they do is obfuscate, kvetch and deflect. Instead of a reasoned, logical discussion, the jews commenting here simply avoid addressing any real points, it is a complete waste of time.

    The Protocols reveal a multifaceted, multi-generational conspiracy to commit genocide on us. As Run Unz described, using Henry Ford as an example, virtually everything in the Protocols has already either come to pass or is far along its way. It is a document that describes our genocide, I know you know it, yet because you have supremacist friends who pretend that they aren’t part of this plot, you feel compelled to kow-tow.

    Jews think that by splitting hairs about the origins of the clearly true document that they discredit it, which is a non-sequitur. Not one single jew on this thread has come out and said:

    “Yes, the protocols describe what the Jewish people have been doing to Christians since we murdered Christ and declared war on your god”.

    Yet you continually grovel to the Jew with your comments like:

    “I’ve always pointed out that there are very many very decent Jews.”

    Sorry, it is those very jews who should be here apologizing to us, and every woke Christian knows that this isn’t going to happen until jews are faced with rebellion against ZOG or expulsion. Then, of course, they will be apologetic, they will promise to learn about truth, to reform themselves, to contribute instead of leaching. Don’t count on getting the extorted holocaust trillions back though.

    The problem for jews is that we Christians have been there, done that. Again and again. Country after country, century after century. Jews never change, they just go crypto, only to resurface later for the Dolchstoss. To try to befriend supremacists to assuage their guilt is utterly pointless, you will only get it projected back onto yourself.

    So you can go ahead and grovel to the jews before trying to get them to accept the truth. IMO, it is not only a waste of time, you just make yourself look cucky to the rest of us woke white Christians. I am certain that jews like Kapner, Makow, Perloff or even your Benjamin Freedman would not be impressed.

    BTW: This is not “hate speech”. I enjoy reading your comments.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Kolo
  522. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peripatetic commenter

    @ Peripatetic commenter

    “Let me guess, it was the Illuminati, wasn’t it.”

    I don’t know. What I do “know” is that the official story is a lie but David Irving, who followed the money, and told us about it, just ignores what that means. Maybe he is an honest scholar and he is really “in love” with Hitler and all that bunch of criminals. Seems very bizarre for a man of such considerable intellect to take that band of intellectually limited criminals seriously as David Irving does.

    “Does it matter that Germany was pretty much already destroyed before Hitler came to power?”

    You simply can not compare the destruction and suffering Germany went through after the I WW and what happened after the II WW.

    After the I WW you had , in spite of economic crisis, an independent country. After the II WW you have a vassal state helping its master to kill as many Arabs as possible…And tomorrow , to kill as many Persians as possible.

  523. Gerd-Schultze Rhonhof was fired immediately after this book came out

  524. JackOH says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron, you did just fine with that lengthy intro to The International Jew and Protocols.

    I’ve mentioned a few times in my comments my belief we in the States live in a deoxygenated and darkened political world that has left us without the tools to deal with modern political challenges. The unfortunate 1914-1945 period is largely to blame, and that period has scuttled even the most innocent of thought.

    Tell you a quick story. On rare occasions I’ll pass out a business card of a local Jewish haberdasher, an independent guy who sells men’s accessories, such as hats. I thought of saying, “Go see Ray, he’s an old-fashioned Jewish haberdasher and he’ll set you up.” I gauged the “Jewish” reference to be good, a reference to known Jewish expertise in the needle trades and clothing manufacture of all sorts. I reconsidered. I was uneasy that some folks would think the “Jewish” reference to be gratuitous and confusing, perhaps pejorative in a way, maybe anti-Semitic. So, I dropped the “Jewish” reference, which I’d regarded as positive and informative, and I think my recommendation is made the weaker for it. We’ve got the same self-censorship phenomenon at the level of national politics in my opinion..

  525. @Rurik

    In one breath you’ll complain that Jews never vote Republican (And definitely did not vote for Bush, minus a few neo-cons in NYC) and simultaneously complain of a war waged by the man they did not vote for.

    Gore would not have invaded Iraq. And Bush was controlled by oil companies and Dow Jones-last bastions of the Anglo elite.

    Iraq did not do anything to improve the situation of Israel.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @annamaria
    , @Rurik
  526. @iffen

    You should know.

    At least utu actually argues his case.

    You, on the other hand, remain stuck at innuendo.

  527. @ohmy

    This is because whites, especially in the United States, seem to lack any capacity for networking and ethnic ties-to some degree the Italians and the Irish had them (Mafia, Tammany Hall) and so the Chinese have them and so do the Indians (And Iranians, Armenians, Russian enclaves).

    Anglo-Saxons just don’t have this capacity, seemingly. Or maybe they never have any money.

  528. @Seraphim

    Hi Seraphim,

    Very informative comment, thank you.

    Just so you know, in “The Chief Culprit,” it was Viktor Suvorov (not me!) who quoted Trotsky’s having asserted that Hitler’s National Socialism & critical need for costly military buildup was “saved by Stalin.”

    Given the Russian Revolution’s Red Army Commander Trotsky’s understandable chip-on-shoulder with the Vodzh, perhaps the former’s assessment was “fanciful” as you said?

    Nonetheless, the quotation-sources in Suvorov’s “The Chief Culprit” are carefully annotated. The book offers a great learning experience!

    A top Bolshevik, within in the “Decider” loop, Trotsky had to know the Party’s means & goals for expanding Marxist-Leninist revolution westward into Europe.

    Bottom line: I respectfully suggest a closer examination of what your word “fanciful” actually means will be helpful. I intuit Lev Trotsky’s words were BITTER, but likely accurate that Adolph Hitler’s demise would have happened prior to September 1939, the invasion of Poland.

    Thank you very much, honorable Seraphim!

  529. utu says:

    This thread is not adding comment anymore. It seems.

  530. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @refl

    I like to tell what happened to the Sirhan family because every American has heard of the youngest son. Writing about what actually happened to one family is more effective than generalizations of land confiscations.

    Jews counter the truth about their confiscations without compensation by claiming that the Palestinians fled therefore the Jews had the right to confiscate their property.

    I usually counter that by pointing out that the Jew goes on vacation, voluntarily leaving his her home and would be outraged to discover trespassers claiming that home as their own. Argue them down to deeds land title on specific pieces of real estate and eventually they will shut up about the right of return.

    Regardless of what you and I or anyone else believe about who really killed RFK, 3 facts remain:

    1. Several of RFKs aides and close friends immediately grabbed Sirhan and held him for the police.

    2 These same aides and friends testified at the trial that Sirhan shot RFK

    3 Sirhan was convicted

    My point is what happened to one Christian orthodox family who’d lived in Jerusalem for centuries.

  531. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Jews are Democrats because they identify with blacks Hispanics Asians criminals LGBTUF against normal Whites.

    Better to reign over a coalition of non Whites criminals and deviants than compete on an equal basis with Whites.

  532. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    In Response to Rurik, Dykstra, et al.

    I have, apparently, been shut out of the discussion, being denied access to your response to my comment.

    Oh, well, if I were Unz, I probably wouldn’t want my comments to appear here either.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @utu
  533. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    So none of the children of the very well paid Polish auto workers went to college or joined the electrician plumbers carpenters unions which allows transfers anywhere in the country

    No children of well paid Polish auto workers ever took an auto mechanics course got a master certificate and moved on. By the early 1970s Heald, Brandon and a lot of the old secretarial schools had switched to computers. And their grads did get jobs as it was before the capitalists brought in Indian and Chinese data entry and coders. I suppose no Poles and Anglo saxons took those courses and got jobs.

    Your disdain for Poles Anglo saxons and other Whites is sooooo Jewish. Next you’ll be blaming the destruction of Detroit by blacks on the “ White ethnics” * who viciously fled Detroit for the suburbs thus leaving the blacks all alone to regress to Orc dom

    * White ethnics Jewish liberal term for White Catholics ethnically cleansed from the great northern cities by black criminals and their Jewish civil rights activists. When the White Catholics fled to the suburbs they were blamed as the cause of the destruction of the cities.

  534. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    When Sirhan was convicted of killing RFK there was no way for the Palestinians to tell their story in any publication or other nefia in America.

    My “ people “ are not Palestinians or any middle easterners. My “ people “ are old stock Americans. Not all Americans believe the Jewish stories that the Palestinians fled voluntarily which justified property confiscation by Russian Jews.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  535. geokat62 says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Iraq did not do anything to improve the situation of Israel.

    LOL

  536. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    You may find this article interesting

    “the portrayal of Israeli politicians as pigs was antisemitic.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/26/israeli-cartoonist-fired-over-animal-farm-netanyahu-caricature

    • Replies: @Anon
  537. @CanSpeccy

    I hope this is some misunderstanding or technical problem.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  538. @Israel Shamir

    (3) The Bolsheviks undid Jewish culture and religion in the USSR: very few synagogues survived, the language practically disappeared, and Jewish community in Russia had been obliterated almost completely. By 1970, there were no Jews at the top, no Jewish life, intermarriage was well above 60%. So it does not make much sense to present the Revolution as a Jewish takeover.

    There were major changes during the period 1917-70, most notably the Great Purge of 1936-8.

    From 1917 the Bolsheviks suppressed all religion, and closed churches as well as synagogues. On the other hand, they ended the Tsarist suppression of people of Jewish ethnicity. Jews played a large but not dominant role in the early USSR. This came to an end in the Great Purge, when both Jews and gentiles were purged, but their replacements were mostly gentiles.

    The Revolution was not a Jewish takeover, but it had strong Jewish participation, perhaps chiefly because it was a movement of the intelligentsia, in which Jews, as a race of high intelligence, were over-represented.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @ploni almoni
  539. Pascendi says:

    The activities of Schiff and the international bankers/illuminati are addressed in a 1954 book by William G. Carr: “Pawns in the Game”.
    I’m reading it at the moment and it seems to fill in an awful lot of gaps in the shaping of modern history, going back to the English Civil War. He presents what seems to be a lot of hard evidence, but I would need to read more from other sources before betting the house on it.
    I would be interested to know who else out there, including the author, has read it and what they say about its credibility.
    While reading it I had exactly the same feeling as the author mentions here, that nearly all the textbooks are omitting some very important facts.
    The secular minded may be put off by Carr’s Christian perspective: he alleges that an international banking cabal literally in the service of Lucifer is working towards a goal of one-world domination.
    From my view, as a Traditional Catholic, that’s quite believable.

  540. @Rurik

    There are more, Ilian Pappe, the Dutch Hamburger and Frijda, Norman Finkelstein, Elias Davidsson.
    But these jews are seen by jews as traitors, Finkelstein, Hamburger.
    Mind boggling is how jews, and those who are on the jewish side, know next to nothing on how zionists occupied Palestine, and cleaned it of Palestinians.
    Finkelstein and Pappe just a few months ago were denied the right to speak in Germany.
    If Dutch tv shows how the IDF kills Palestinians at the Gaza fence it is accused of antisemitism.
    The holocaust almost every week is news, some 96 year old Auschwitz bookkeeper found, not yet published pages of the Anne Frank diary published, whatever.
    The plight of the Palestinians, already from 1933 until 1936 there was a guerilla war, hardly, in comparison, gets any attention, be it that Hamas is blamed for firing some primitive rockets into Israel.
    Israeli strikes in Syria, no problem, Syria shooting down an Israeli jet, big headlines.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Rurik
  541. Wild imaginations, to say the least.

  542. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    So where are the Jews, who like myself, support the West and support the Pals.

    Jews are known for their hard-headed rationality, so they are hardly likely to adopt such an irrational position.

    Specifically, why would they support the great settler states of the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the Republic of South Africa, while condemning the Israeli settler state with which the Western states are so closely affiliated?

    The treatment of the Palestinians is bad, and I suspect a lot of American Jews would agree. But then the treatment of the Amerindians in both North and South America has been bad to atrocious, yet how many Americans inveigh about that or demand reparations be paid?

    It is true that those identifiable as Jews rarely speak critically of Jewish behavior, which is for the obvious reason that such outspokenness is strongly deprecated, and indeed punished, in the Jewish community, e.g., Norman Finkelstein.

    Why is such censorship tolerated in the Jewish community? In part because of “the age-old Jewish mental illness of anti-Semitism phobia,” to paraphrase Eli Wiesel.

    And why are Jews phobic about anti-Semitism” Two reasons. First, because people readily speak of Jews as though they have collective responsibility for the Protocols, or the media, or the porn industry, the alleged drinking of Christian blood, or banksters, etc., whereas in fact, most Jews, as Ron Unz identifies them, i.e., simply by last name, are ordinary decent folk whose connection with Judaism reflects simply cultural fidelity, especially in the celebration of the key events in life, birth, coming of age, marriage and death. Second, because agencies such as the ADL, and in Canada, Bnai Brith, who hype every incident of real or fake anti-Semitism. No one should aid such scoundrel organizations by careless condemnation of Jews as a collective for the sins of individuals and organizations.

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @Rurik
  543. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    ” To subject such people to group condemnation is not only unjust but counterproductive. ”

    Who does this ?

    Well, you, for a start.

  544. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Problem now solved. Thanks to the attentive site administration and the tolerance of Ron Unz.

  545. @Ron Unz

    I have a low opinion of Trotsky. He achieved basically nothing politically and in the end resorted to blatant sabotage against the whole system he had been sidelined from. It was under Stalin’s leadership that the USSR industrialized and won the war against the Nazis. What the USSR under Stalin did essentially proved the theory of Socialism in One Country and discredited Trotsky’s theory of permanent revolution. It was indeed possible for the Soviet Union to build a powerful, industrialized, socialist state amidst hostility from the advanced capitalist countries. They did not need the proletariat from those capitalist countries to “rescue them.” Trotsky was basically saying, “no it cannot be done, it cannot be done, impossible” and then, Stalin, after taking power, through his new system made what Trotsky believed impossible actually happen for real.

    Trotsky’s reputation only survived politically, because the West was so pissed at Stalin’s success. Also, it helped much that Stalin was later denounced. In any case, facts are facts. What happened under made the USSR a superpower. Of course, the Western media is often very good at ignoring and distorting the consequential hard facts to the public whenever they are perceived as threatening. Or maybe more because the Western elites themselves are delusional.

    Trotsky was a Jew. Another major taint on the whole Jewish character. Nowadays, much of America is run by Jews. Goldman-Sachs and the Ivy League are prominent examples. In https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-partner-at-Goldman-Sachs/answers/1750174

    When it comes to promotions, I feel there is a clear bias towards members of the same ethnicity/religion if your boss and perhaps bosses’ boss share that heritage. You don’t however use that as an excuse for not getting ahead. To be clear, I am talking about one ethnic/religious group in particular, and not in general.

    Nothing can really stop them at this point. People can bitch about the Jewish abuse of power on sites and forums like these but it doesn’t actually put anything into real effect. The people who opt to read the content this site are likely to be those who are already aware of this reality. I don’t see what can displace those Jews in positions of power at Goldman-Sachs, etc who favor and promote their own without reservation. Ron Unz has some money but he’s not like ridiculously rich either. His influence is still relatively marginal.

    The only way would be for the US and the West in general, where Jews hold most of their ground, to slowly decline in international influence. I’ve noticed that Jews tend to be very hostile to PRC. Because they know they have basically no chance of becoming parasites there, barring a pro-Western regime change, which is ever more unlikely. (See https://gmachine1729.com/lists-and-statistics/anti-chinese-jews/.) I’ve even imagined the possibility of China going on an anti-Semitic media campaign, though that’s quite unlikely given the conservative nature of current political elites. Still, in China, it’s totally okay for the most prominent English show host to openly question Jewish financial and media control in America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Rui#Controversy. See also https://gmachine1729.com/2017/08/21/brainwashing-in-america/. Ron, maybe you can help make known to China how Jews favor themselves at the expense of Asian-Americans in US elite college admissions. I could translate your Myth of American Meritocracy piece to Chinese and help spread it on the Chinese internet. By the way, as for my opinion on the whole fight for “equal education rights” on the part of Asian-Americans, I think it’s good, but those people should realize that even if their kids go to Harvard, they won’t get a fair shake in the corporate world where there is actually real money and power at stake. Better to go make their home country better and let the shitty American elites ruin America. And don’t raise children in America. A guy from China I was talking to yesterday had said to me that ABCs are the worst off, they can’t really be American and they also lose their opportunity to be Chinese. He is mostly correct on that one. He came back to work here after an attempt at entrepreneurship in China, and he considers himself a relative loser for it. In contrast, he has a friend who started a company now valued in the billions (and still owns 50+% of it) that expects to IPO within the next five years. He says that he and his wife will go back eventually; no way they will let their kids go through the school system here.

  546. Mitia says:

    1) During the last decade of the 19th Century a number of International Jewish Congresses were staged in European cities. It was at these that the idea of a Jewish Palestine was floated. And it is sometimes suggested that it was from these that The Protocols were created, often arising out of closed door strategy meetings. 2) Jacob Schiff put up reward money for those involved in the Romanov Family assassinations.

  547. jsm says:

    Exactly.

    That’s why it’s preposterous for whozit (I forget who I replied to) to assert that:

    Non-religious jews are America Firsters and constitute the majority of jews.

    The majority of non-religious jews absolutely are NOT America Firsters. They are Israel-Firsters, as well as America-Lasters, as evidenced by their proportions voting for Trump. The less religious the jew, the less likely to vote for Trump, therefore the less America-First you are.

    So his assertion that being not-fawning about the JQ will drive non-religious supposedly mostly America-First jews into becoming hostile to Americans is just silly. NRSMAF jews do not exist. Or if they do, their numbers are so small, if it were possible to drive them to the Genocide Whites side, it wouldn’t even be a rounding error in the numbers.

  548. Anon[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The Revolution was not a Jewish takeover, but it had strong Jewish participation, perhaps chiefly because it was a movement of the intelligentsia

    Didn’t the Revolution murder or gulag a lot of the intelligentsia?

  549. This sounds like basic, functioning capitalism lol:

    RE: “describing in rather long-winded fashion a plan of secret subversion aimed at weakening the bonds of the social fabric, setting groups against each other, gaining control over political leaders by bribery and blackmail, and eventually restoring society along rigidly hierarchical lines with an entirely new group in control.”

  550. jsm says:
    @CanSpeccy

    If this is true as you claim, that, Jews are:

    ordinary decent folk whose connection with Judaism reflects simply cultural fidelity,

    ….then why do they keep FUNDING such agencies as:

    ADL, and in Canada, Bnai Brith, who hype every incident of real or fake anti-Semitism.

    Hm???

    If

    (by careless condemnation of Jews as a collective for the sins of individuals and organizations)

    Then why do the ordinary, “decent” Jews keep aiding with FUNDING these scoundrel organizations?

    It’s ordinary jews doing the funding, cuz ADL B’nai B’rith and $SPLC are getting all their bazillions which they use to hype false claims of anti-semitism from someWHERE.

    When ordinary jews pull their funding of the scoundrel agencies, (as evidenced by them going so broke they can no longer brow-beat Whites by hyping false anti-semitism claims) THEN I’ll believe your assertion that most ordinary jews are decent folk.

    Until then, yeah, they’re all collectively guilty, because they participated, by sending the MONEY.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  551. Blake says:

    This is why we need alternative media or we will never know the truth. Much appreciated

  552. annamaria says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Could you explain the strenuous efforts of the leading ziocons towards initiation of the Iraq War?
    Since historycommons.org, the best compendium of materials about ziocons, is down (wonder why), here are some bits to refresh your memory about the story of the Iraq War: https://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/p/war-for-israel.html
    Philip Zelikow, President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [PFIAB] and dual citizen of US and Israel: “Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat [is] and actually has been since 1990 – it’s the threat against Israel.”

    “The ziocons made their policy views clear in “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” prepared back in 1996… It was authored by a group of rabidly zionist neoconservatives including Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David Wurmser … and proposed a hawkish plan based on military preemption, [including] the removal of Saddam Hussein from power…”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

    “The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan in 1997… Shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks, the PNAC sent a letter to President George W. Bush, advocating “a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq”, or regime change.”

    “The relentless propaganda campaign against Iraq continued through the zionist-controlled mainstream media…”
    — Who owns the mainstream media? https://www.sott.net/article/388383-Understanding-Jewish-Power-and-who-helped-create-a-war-addicted-America
    “…the United States is deeply involved in a series of seemingly endless wars pitting it against predominantly Muslim nations even though Washington has no vital interests at stake in places like Syria, Libya and Iraq. Who is driving the process and benefiting? Israel is clearly the intended beneficiary of a coordinated effort mounted by more than 600 Jewish organizations in the U.S. that have at least as part of their programs the promotion and protection of Israel. …
    Those who are in the drivers’ seat of the Israel promotion process are … the Jewish Power, an aggregate of Jewish money, control over key aspects of the media and entertainment industries plus easy access to corrupted politicians desirous of positive press and campaign donations.”

    https://countercurrents.org/2018/03/09/zionist-subversion-mainstream-media-censorship-disproportionate-jewish-board-membership-of-us-media-companies/

  553. “What they do NOT tell you is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than what they DO tell you.” — thom prentice

    RE: “The extent to which established historical facts can appear or disappear from the world should certainly force all of us to become very cautious in believing anything we read in our standard textbooks, let alone what we absorb from our more transient electronic media.”

  554. @Anon

    Most of the Polish moved to Warren, MI.

    • Replies: @Anon
  555. @Anon

    Jewish hate Polish?

    • Replies: @Anon
  556. So. Is this why Nixon, Hoover, Wherry, McCarthy et al went after Homos — because they either could NOT find any communists in government — but they COULD find lots of Communists spies who were Jews and — and they could ALSO find a lot of Homosexuals in the government and so the Homos took the fall … for the Jews? is THAT what Nixon meant by “trying to focus on Gentile targets?”

    RE: “McCarthy went to enormous lengths to obscure the ethnic dimension of the movement they were combatting. Indeed, many years later Richard Nixon casually spoke in private of the difficulty he and other anti-Communist investigators had faced in trying to focus on Gentile targets since nearly all of the suspected Soviet spies were Jewish…”

  557. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/anne-frank-hoax-exposed/

    “Recent scientific tests have proved the alleged diary could not have been written before 1951. … Otto Frank should have been more careful in his choice of writing instruments. It is now quite clear that he finished hoking up the “original” of the diary after he had found a publisher for what, in 1946, was nothing more than some rough notes and an idea in his head which seemed to have prospects for making him a lot of money with little effort. First a typescript for the publisher, and then, as sales of the book began to mount, a completed handwritten “original” to show to doubters.
    Just after the report of the Federal Criminal Office was given to the court, Otto Frank conveniently died — before he could be asked a number of very interesting questions. Frank made millions from his forgery. Meanwhile, the worldwide Jewish propaganda apparatus has continued its promotion of the Anne Frank myth as if nothing had happened. Der Spiegel seems to be the only mass-circulation news periodical to have exposed the fraud to date.”

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @James N. Kennett
  558. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Oh, well, if I were Unz, I probably wouldn’t want my comments to appear here either.

    Because you comment are devastating. Ron Unz can’t sleep because of you.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  559. FRB says:

    This was quite an interesting read. It seems the Romanovs were also adamant that no private central bank would be allowed in Russia.We see evidence of this stance in the Russian support of Lincoln during the American civil war, declaring an attack on America by any European power-s would be considered also as an attack on Russia. This was echoed by Bismark rhetorical support for Lincoln. The common theme being Lincoln’s use of government issued ‘greenback’ dollars and the intrigue of the already central bank ‘captured’ nations of Great Britain and France to possibly intercede at this troubled time in America. One of the first topics of business while the Russian revolution was grinding on in Russia was the installation of a private central bank. Lenin would later complain of the unseen hand that controlled much of Soviet policy and of its economy in his ‘driving the car’ metaphor.

    Is it possible that Schiff”s and others contributions to the Bolshevik revolution could actually be seen as investment seed money to the future establishment of a privately owned central bank in Russia? No matter the political ideological stance the lending of interest bearing credit/debt to an entire nation and new debt sink must have seemed to be an attractive business plan if the seed money for a congruous revolt should prove successful. This may be a case for an even stronger motive by the western banking community for financing the Russian Revolution.

    • Replies: @utu
  560. Rurik says:
    @Heros

    Do you always point out that there are very decent Muslims and Jamaicans and who ever else that the jews are using against us, before you mention them? I haven’t seen it.

    When people spew and drool that Muslims are terrorists, I’m the first person to point out that in many cases, (Palestine, post ‘Shock and Awe’ Iraq, Syrian army, etc..) it’s the Muslims who’re the good guys and the Shock and Awe murderers who’re the bad guys. (not the troops, but the scum who sent them)

    Tony Blair, Dubya, Cheney, Obama, Hillary, “it’s worth it” Madeleine Albright, etc… are the war criminals, not the men in Fallujah fighting the Fiend in their own cities and towns.

    I have zero problems with Muslims in their own lands. God bless them. And I perfectly understand the Muslims who want to come to the West. Why not?! I don’t blame any of the wretches who throng into the West, because they’d be stupid not to. Rather I blame the treasonous and genocidal leadership of Blair, Merkel, Dubya, Obama and all the other whores of Zion. Not to mention the Jewish supremacists who’re demanding the death of the West.

    I’m far more critical of the ‘virtue signaling’ white shitlibs than I am of the Muslims. And while I’d never allow any single young men from any non-Western nation to immigrate in significant numbers, I’m very sympathetic to the needs of legitimate refugees form nations my government has destroyed.

    (also, it’s worth pointing out, that the Unz Review has it’s own Muslim ambassador, who comports himself with more grace and depth of character than you’d find in most Christians I know. So there’s that ; )

    As for Jamaicans, when people start to claim that they’re all worthless and low, I would no doubt point out the exceptions. I have no problem with Jamaicans (in Jamaica ; ).

    I know you know it, yet because you have supremacist friends who pretend that they aren’t part of this plot, you feel compelled to kow-tow.

    while I agree with everything you’re saying about the Protocols, I’m hardly kow-towing to anyone.

    Rurik doesn’t kow-tow.

    Writing that I know good and decent Jews, is simply telling the truth. I know a Jewish gal who’s so compassionate, that she’d risk her life rather than harm an opossum crossing the road.

    I know another Jewish gal who told her secular but practicing (if that makes any sense) Jewish parents that she didn’t want to celebrate Passover anymore because it celebrates the slaughter of children.

    I’ve said many times that one of the great and noble minds I’ve revered in my book reading days was Carl Sagan. (I still read books, but not as voraciously as I used to)

    I’ve dated Jewish girls, and found some to be enchanting. I have relatives that are Jews. They’re not all Jewish supremacists. I even know Jews that you’d never know are Jews. Redneck Jews, guys who say ‘nigger’ like it was nothing. Simply pointing out that the ‘nigger who owns that tire shop does good work’. I know fishermen Jews and biker Jews and all kinds of Jews. So believe me when I tell you that I’m not kow-towing to the ADL or SPLC when I simply write what I know.

    Yet you continually grovel to the Jew…

    lol

    until jews are faced with rebellion against ZOG or expulsion.

    we should start with no dual-citizens in the federal government, in any capacity.

    Just about the only TV I watch is Tucker Carlson, and last night he had on Joe Lieberman, who was saying the Democrats must rebuke this new Latina socialist form NY. It was hilarious to watch, because he said everything but Israel. He was forced to dissemble to the point of making me laugh, until he finally came out with ‘she doesn’t understand foreign policy and our values’, blah, blah,- Jewish supremacist- blah.

    The New Democrat party is not going to kow-tow to the Jewish supremacists. The rank and file and the new leadership see these wealthy and powerful Jew as white. Just more white supremacists putting it to brown people. So (((they’ve))) painted themselves into a difficult corner with their ‘hate whitey’ imperative. Now watch as they come crawling back to Trump’s Deplorables and say, ‘Hey, we’re one of you guys!’ You know, Mike Savage, and Mark Levine. White power!’ MAGA! = MIGA!

    So you can go ahead and grovel to the jews before trying to get them to accept the truth. IMO, it is not only a waste of time, you just make yourself look cucky to the rest of us woke white Christians. I am certain that jews like Kapner, Makow, Perloff or even your Benjamin Freedman would not be impressed.

    Don’t you see the fundamental contradiction in this paragraph?

    Y0u call me a cuck for saying some Jews are decent and good, by pointing out Jews that are decent and good.

    I enjoy reading your comments.

    Same here. You’re very ‘woke’ and very astute. The more you write, the more people learn.

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @Mike P
  561. Rurik says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    In one breath you’ll complain that Jews never vote Republican (And definitely did not vote for Bush, minus a few neo-cons in NYC) and simultaneously complain of a war waged by the man they did not vote for.

    umm..

    hello?

    I have never complained about Jews not voting Republican. That’s bizarre.

    Republicans are the scum of the earth. Conservative Inc. has done more to damage this nation than even the Democrat shitlibs. At least the Dems say they hate whitey and want his stuff and to dance on his grave. Whereas cucks like Paul Ryan..

    Well, I’ll let Cicero’s eloquent warning lay out Paul Ryan for what he, and most of the GOP

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

    The only times I’ve voted Republican were in local elections or when Ron Paul and then Donald Trump ran as Republicans, and in both cases, these two remarkable men were opposed by the GOP more than even their Democrat opponents.

    Fuck the GOP. Fuck the Repulicucks. They’re traitors to this republic, to the people of this nation, to their constituents, and to their sacred oaths. May they all join John McCain, (their patron saint) in rotting from the inside out.

    Iraq did not do anything to improve the situation of Israel.

    The ONLY reason Iraq was destroyed was for Israel.

    And anyone who pretends otherwise, is either a liar or a fool.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Jeff Stryker
  562. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    My “ people “ are not Palestinians or any middle easterners. My “ people “ are old stock Americans

    having sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians doesn’t make you a Palestinian or a Muslim, it makes you human.

    “So I be written in the Book of Love. I do not care about that Book Above. Erase my name, or write it as you will. So I be written in the Book of Love.”

    ― Omar Khayyám

    your name is there, and so are all who speak the truth about the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  563. utu says:
    @FRB

    declaring an attack on America by any European powers would be considered also as an attack on Russia

    There was no such declaration. Russia moved the Baltic fleet out of Baltic because it feared that it might be locked in and destroyed as it was almost destroyed during the Crimean War by British fleet.

    http://people.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1983-4/delehaye.htm
    In the autumn of 1863, czardom and democracy had a lot more in common than usual. Russia was at the brink of war with the old “Crimean Coalition” (Britain, France, and Austria) over the question of the Polish Rebellion. The Poles had rebelled against Russian rule, hoping to establish an independent state of their own. The “Crimean Coalition” was supporting the Poles. The United States was in the middle of a devastating civil war. The South had seceded from the Union and Lincoln was trying to preserve the Union and free the slaves at the same time. These two events, that do not even appear to be similar, brought two nations together. It was just one more thing in a long series that was part of a very odd relationship.

    A legend grew up on Russia’s gallant gesture to uphold the Union which would persist for more than a half century and only to be completely demolished when historic research in the Russian archives finally brought to light the Tsar’s secret order to the fleet.

    The thesis of Russia acting for her own self interest by sailing her fleet to America in 1863 is also supported by a Russian scholar, E. A. Adamov. Adamov claims that Russia wished not only to save the fleet from other European powers, but to “put them in the most favorable position for the opening of warlike activities with maximum of energy and productivity against England and France.” Russia’s motives for sending the fleet to America were indeed self-serving. Alexander intended the mission as protection for the fleet. He wanted to get “the fleet out of the Baltic to distant seas where it could damage the British merchant marine.”

    • Replies: @Anon
  564. Heros says:
    @Rurik

    “Y0u call me a cuck for saying some Jews are decent and good, by pointing out Jews that are decent and good.”

    I referred to “Kapner, Makow, Perloff or even your Benjamin Freedman”. These guys would resent being called “good jews”, likely they would deny that such a beast exists, and that is really the issue. They certainly would never bother qualifying their condemnation of the Jewish racial supremacism by continually saying that they have many friends that are “good jews” and that not all jews are bad.

    Getting back to Jamaicans and Muslims, it is like the guy who always has to say “some of my best friends are black” every time he criticizes jamaicans or “some of my best friends are muslim” everytime he criticizes some backward muslim practices. Why is this necessary? I really doubt you do it anyway.

    IMO, not only is it cucky, it is irrellevant to the topic of conversation, your personal beliefs have nothing to with the verity of the Protocols. Qualifying your statements like this is merely a sort of comments section immunization against being called a “racist” or an “anti-semite”.

    Well I think you and I can both agree that the biggest racists are blacks, who discriminate horribly against both darker skinned blacks and whites. The biggest anti-”semites” are the jews who are busy genociding the Semite Christians and Palestinians. You say you don’t kow-tow. So why bother virtue signaling to a race of genocidal Christian haters? Because you have jewish “friends”? Do these jews even know your that you post on unz or that your handle is Rurik?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  565. Rurik says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Dutch Hamburger

    that’s some name!

    But these jews are seen by jews as traitors

    ‘Self-hating Jews’

    Yea, I know the pressure to conform is strong indeed.

    All those double standards you mention would be far more difficult to perpetrate if we Gentiles were allowed to have an honest cable news channel of our own.

    I wonder why that seems so insurmountable. Ron Unz has done an amazing thing with his video channel, and I suppose this is the trend we should all emulate, until somehow the aspirations of the hundreds of millions of people of the actual Western world will have a voice.

    If Dutch tv shows how the IDF kills Palestinians at the Gaza fence it is accused of antisemitism.
    The holocaust almost every week

    this is the same situation from the length and breath of the entire zio-west. It is unilateral, and controlled with an iron grip from Australia to Norway.

    Osama did 9/11

    the Palestinians are terrorists who shoot rockets

    Hamas is a terrorist organization

    Hezbollah is a terrorist organization

    Assad is a dictatorial tyrant killing his own people with chemical weapons

    Putin shot down MH17

    Putin poisoned the Skripals

    Putin invaded Crimea and took it by force

    The Golan Heights is Israeli territory.

    Iran is building the bomb

    Germany and Europe must take the refugees

    Without those refugees, “Europe will not survive”

    and on and on.

    Wilson handed them the FED, (their own private counterfeiting machine, and with it, the power to dominate the planet) and when he did, he doomed the rest of us.

  566. Rurik says:
    @CanSpeccy

    support the West and support the Pals.

    Jews are known for their hard-headed rationality, so they are hardly likely to adopt such an irrational position.

    we’ll see

    something tells me that many Jews are going have an epiphany.

    Specifically, why would they support the great settler states of the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the Republic of South Africa, while condemning the Israeli settler state with which the Western states are so closely affiliated?

    because they never supported the white people of those places to begin with.

    and those places were colonized when that was what the whole world was doing, until all the rules changed at Nuremburg.

    Then it became an unmitigated sin, for which whitey had to quit his overseas colonies, and self-flagellate for his unforgivable (racist!) crimes of the past. Duh.

    Since that is the paradigm that they created for whitey, why should they and they alone be able to thumb their nose at The Nuremburg Charter? Their own handiwork.

    Amerindians in both North and South America has been bad to atrocious, yet how many Americans inveigh about that or demand reparations be paid?

    the Amerindians were not treated as bad. People wrung their hands over the treatment of the “Indians”. They tried to convert them to Christianity. They tried to assimilate them. They tried very hard to preserve their dignity.

    And all of that was pre-Nuremburg, when colonization was rampant.

    Contrast that to the treatment of the Palestinians, who are savaged in this post-Nuremburg era, and treated as if they are somehow to blame for existing. As if they’re an affront to god himself because they’re a nuisance and inconvenience to god’s people. And for that temerity, they must be ruthlessly humiliated and brutalized daily.

    There simply is no equivalent to the treatment of the Amerindians, except that in both cases a genocide happened/is happening.

    And why are Jews phobic about anti-Semitism” Two reasons. First, because people readily speak of Jews as though they have collective responsibility for the Protocols,

    I consider such collective blaming as extremely rare. Like blaming them for killing the Christ. Only very fringe people speak that way.

    No one should aid such scoundrel organizations by careless condemnation of Jews as a collective for the sins of individuals and organizations.

    I tend to agree with this, but I do feel that asking Jews if they support things like Zionism, (as it’s practiced today), or immigration, as it’s practiced today, (white genocide), are ways to glimmer if the Jew you’re talking to is a Jewish supremacist, in which case you’d be correct in concluding that they are your deadliest and most intractable enemy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @CanSpeccy
  567. Rurik says:
    @Heros

    Getting back to Jamaicans and Muslims, it is like the guy who always has to say “some of my best friends are black” every time he criticizes jamaicans

    do you think it would do your (and perhaps my) cause any good to come off as a Grand Wizard of the KKK, and speak as if every black or Jew were a spawn of Beelzebub?

    Surely you know there are good and decent blacks. I read the Count of Monte Cristo twice. Written by a (mixed) black man.

    Thomas Sowell has a superb intellect. So do many others.

    I suspect, that if we’re too strident in what could be interpreted as a narrow view, that we could not just alienate non-whites, but also some white folks that may be on the fence, so to speak.

    I simply want to know if a Jew is a Jewish supremacist, before I conclude it, and conduct myself accordingly. If he is, then I’d likely seek out a different dentist, or fishing buddy.

    If he isn’t, or has never thought about it, (yes, they exist) then WTF, why must he be my enemy?

    you have jewish “friends”? Do these jews even know your that you post on unz or that your handle is Rurik?

    that’s funny

    my gal knows I do so, and she thinks it’s pretty cool that I’m ‘writing’, because she said I always had a knack for it. So she was telling some of her girly pals about it, (‘he’s on this place called Unz and he’s called ‘Rurik’) and at least one of them is a Jewish gal. (a psychologist no less). So I was wondering if any of them ever logged on and took a peek.

    But I used to participate in what we called ‘the sandbox’, with a handful of guys, and one was a (very smart, neocon-type) Jew, and there was an (also very smart) uber-liberal SJW, and others. And we hashed out all this shit. The Jewish fellow and I would get into some doozies, to be sure. It was a lot of fun.

    (he hated Putin, and hated that I called Putin a statesman. It drove him nutso ; )

    • Replies: @Heros
  568. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    The Diary of Anne Frank was written by an American author Meyer Levin. Levin was very prolific and wrote at least 25 popular books in the early 20 th century.

    Otto contracts to pay Levin $50,000 to turn the rough pages into a book. Levin fulfilled his part of the contract. The boom was published and made millions.

    Frank refused to pay Levin. Levin sued for breach of contract and non payment for work done. As plaintiff, Levin had to prove his claim. Levin did so by presenting the rough pages Frank gave him and the finished book.

    Levin was awarded the full $50,000. I don’t think Frank ever paid Levine despite the court order.

    Levin’s book Compulsion is a fictionalized version of the Loeb Leopold murder of 13 year old Bobby’s Frank. It’s a good read.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  569. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    They certainly do as you well know.

  570. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    So why do you keep claiming they all stayed in Detroit and became drug addicts?
    You really should settle on your persona. Your references are those of a 70 year old. Your contempt and disdain for the goyim is obvious.

  571. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Abraham Lincoln was so worried about the Russian Pacific Fleet cruising our coast that he ordered the army to turn the old Spanish Presidio overlooking the Golden gate channel into a real fort complete with massive cannon bunkers ready to fire on any Russian ships planning on seizing San Francisco and N California.

    • Replies: @Anon
  572. @refl

    I’ve never heard it suggested that Keith Murdoch was acting other than a patriotic Australian and/or ambitious journalist trying to make sure the incompetence and waste of the Gallipoli campaign was known where it could count. Are you suggesting something different?

    • Replies: @anon
  573. utu says:
    @Anon

    Never heard of it. Routine precaution. Source?

    It was all very friendly in SF. Russian sailors even helped to fight fighters.

    http://www.militarymuseum.org/CzarsFleet.pdf
    released, and returned them to their ships.20
    On Friday morning, October 23, 1863, a great conflagration enveloped the financial district of San Francisco in the vicinity of Davis, California, and Sacramento streets. Admiral Popoff ordered a force of his men to help the San Francisco Fire Department combat the blaze. The Russian sailors performed many acts of daring and a few sustained severe injuries. One sailor dislocated his arm and another suffered a badly crushed hand. After the fire was extinguished, the Russian sailors were made the guests of Brod erick Engine Company, No. 1, at their fire house.

    Chief Engineer’s Office, Fire Dept., San Francisco, Oct. 24, 1863.

    To His Excellency Admiral A. A. Popoff, Commanding H.I.M. fleet in the Pacific and China waters-

    Dear Sir:
    On behalf of myself and the Fire Department of the city of San Francisco, I tender to you our sincere thanks for the generous and efficient service rendered by yourself, officers and men, in assisting us at the disastrous fire on the morning of the 23d inst. The Department which I have the honor to command, will, in common with the citizens generally ever retain in grateful remembrance, the noble and heroic conduct of Admiral Popoff, and the officers and men under his command.

    Very truly yours, etc.
    David Scannell,
    Chief Engineer, S.F.F.D.

    • Replies: @Anon
  574. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jsm

    Then why do the ordinary, “decent” Jews keep aiding with FUNDING these scoundrel organizations?

    Do they keep “FUNDING these scoundrel organizations”?

    Where’s the proof?

    You continue to do precisely as all the anti-Semites here do, which is to lump anyone who is a Jew by virtue of their last name, to use the Unz criterion, with particular Jews they do not like. That is the essence of anti-Semitism and it helps keep Jews who might abandon the mentality of a besiedged from so doing. For the big Jews, who need a docile flock of followers, such anti-Semitism is absolutely essential and hence they continually stoke it. Yet, even so, most American Jews now marry no Jews and presumably, therefore, have a rather slight connection with organized Jewry and contribute little if anything to it, financially or otherwise.

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @Anonymous
  575. Mike P says:
    @Rurik

    So if there are all these decent Jews – and I don’t question it, I know some myself – what prevents them from getting off their behinds and siding with humanity? They have the inside track, and they won’t be called antisemite!” and such. I see and appreciate a handful that do it, but most seem politically extremely naive and deep asleep.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Rurik
  576. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Ahh, but who in Germany was in charge at that time and what interests did they have?

    Anatoly conveniently forgot to fill in the (((blanks))) on that one.

  577. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rurik

    Republicans are the scum of the earth. Conservative Inc. has done more to damage this nation than even the Democrat shitlibs.

    You got that right.

  578. Derryl says:

    In 1864, Maurice Joly published, The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu. In 1748, Montesquieu had published, The Spirit of the Laws, in which he laid out his “incorruptible” tripartitie government comprising an Executive, a Legislative, and a Judicial branch, each of which would hold the others in check from gaining absolute power and thus tyranny.

    Eventually Montesquieu dies and meets the pre-deceased Machiavelli waiting in Hades to be reborn. Montesquieu regales Machiavelli with the brilliance of his incorruptible government. Then Machiavelli describes how — in a short series of steps — he could systematically corrupt the people who performed the roles within each branch of government. Then to the final dismay of the horrified Montesquieue, Machiavelli performs the coup de grace by informing Montesquieu that the glorious French Revolution — promising liberte, egalite, fraternite — had engendered 10 years of The Terror followed by the absolute dictatorship of the Emperor Napoleon.

    In 1856, Alexis de Tocqueville published, The Old Regime and the Revolution, describing how — long before 1789 — the French nobility had abandoned the task of governing and had placed all governing power in the hands of fiscal agents who collected the taxes and doled out the public monies. The landed nobility were selling their land to the more enterprising peasant farmers, and the nobility used the money to finance their forays into Parisien society where even the political philosophies that were the most directly subversive to the interests of the nobility (such as “democracy”) provided entertainment and were discussed with blithe delight in the salons and boudoirs. The whole nation was enchanted by the new political theories that were sprouting up, and whose utopian possibilities were being imagined and discussed by chambermaids and peasants as well as intellectuals and nobles.

    Ironically, it was when Louis XVI made the democratic gesture of lightening the burden of taxes on the peasantry, that the emboldened peasantry rose up and lopped off his head; along with the heads of the other visible elements of the ruling class — the nobility and clergy. The peasants’ heads had been filled with the same political theories that delighted the leisured nobility: but none of the theorists or peasants or nobles knew the first thing about the practical everyday realities of governing. Hence 10 years of murderous vengeance, followed by Imperial tyranny.

    De Tocqueville observed that, while the French hated the taxes of tyranny, they loved their glorious tyrants.

    A few years ago it was widely reported that China’s rulers were all reading The Old Regime and the Revolution, to learn how not to govern: in the interest of maintaining a functioning country, and keeping their heads.

    Some people have opined that the Protocols were based on Joly’s 1864 book. But I have them both (as well as Ford’s book), and they are very different works. Joly presents Montesquieu as politically naive, and Machiavelli as deliciously wicked. The Protocols is just an evil plot to corrupt the minds and morals of the people to make them easy to use as livestock.

    In 1922, Walter Lippman published, Public Opinion, explaining that in order for mass society to be governable, they needed a mass mind: a common set of beliefs, values and purposes. WWI — transforming US public opinion from “No shedding US blood and treasure in foreign wars!” to “Kill the evil Hun!” — is considered the first big success of mass mind moulding.

    In 1923, Sigmund Freud’s nephew Edward Bernays published, Crystallizing Public Opinion, describing his expertise in the newly-invented field of “public relations”, and offering his mind-moulding services to anybody (governments, corporations, rich people) who could afford to pay his fees. In 1928 Bernays published, Propaganda, describing his successes and advertising his services.

    Psychological manipulation of the masses’ beliefs and values has since been developed to a high art, and has spawned mega-billion dollar industries: advertising; and mass media news and entertainment.

    The US system of government is patterned after Montesquieu’s tripartite system. Very easy to corrupt. You don’t have to corrupt the government. You just have to corrupt the people who operate the government. It’s like transnational capitalists say of resource-rich Third World countries: You don’t have to buy the country. You just buy the guy that runs the country.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  579. Derryl says:

    typo: Propaganda was published in 1928, not 1929.

  580. jsm says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Of COURSE ordinary jews are funding Big Jewry organizations. ADL got 48 MILLION dollars in donations in fiscal 2016. That’s one year. That money came from somewhere — and I think I can safely say it t’weren’t folks like Wally sending in the money.

    48 million bucks is a LOT of money. It obviously is gonna take a whole lotta jews sending a few shekels a year to get THAT kind of revenue. And ADL is just one of dozens upon dozens of jewish anti-White organizations, all raking in BIG bucks from donations from little jews.

    Income Statement

    (FYE 12/2016)
    REVENUE
    Contributions
    Contributions, Gifts & Grants $47,908,536

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=10657

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  581. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu

    … if I were Unz, I probably wouldn’t want my comments to appear here either.

    Ron Unz can’t sleep because of you.

    Since, for 18 hours or so, the site denied me access to the comment box, it seemed plausible that my comments were not welcome. However, it now seems more probable that the exclusion was the consequence of a technical problem.

    But it is the case that Ron Unz did refuse my well-informed and documented critique of Fred Reed’s silly piece on evolution, which Unz followers may like to read here.

    Why, incidentally, as a devout Christian, are you such a sour cunt?

    • Replies: @Anon
  582. JSM says:

    Yet, even so, most American Jews now marry no Jews and presumably, therefore, have a rather slight connection with organized Jewry and contribute little if anything to it, financially or otherwise.

    Presumably NUTHin’. Plenty of American jews who marry non-Jews get the spouse to convert. (Or, it’s a second marriage, barren, and the jew has jewish kids from the first jew-jew marriage, so YEAH, has plenty of connection to jewishness and organized jewry.

  583. @Rurik

    If Iraq was invaded for Israel.

    Rubbish, the oil companies in Texas did not care about Israel, Iraq had oil.

    Why would the US have invaded Iraq instead of other countries like Iran or Lebanon that opposed Israel more virulently?

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Anon
    , @Rurik
  584. Anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P

    what prevents them from getting off their behinds and siding with humanity?

    Good question.

    A lot of them are simply lying – whether they believe that the goyim are their soul-less livestock, or inferior humans, or simply less-smart and less-chosen.

    The second part consists of Jews who are enjoying the nepotistic ride regardless. Psychologically, it’s difficult to critically examine a system that brings immediate, material gains. They’re also indoctrinated to fear the goyim which makes them extremely inert and defensive on this particular topic.

    That’s why we’ve barely witnessed a few Jews “siding with humanity”.

    And those who did side with humanity were aggressively ostracised and attacked. It’s a carrot-fear-stick dynamic.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Jeff Stryker
  585. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous

    The second part consists of Jews who are enjoying the nepotistic ride regardless. Psychologically, it’s difficult to critically examine a system that brings immediate, material gains. They’re also indoctrinated to fear the goyim which makes them extremely inert and defensive on this particular topic.

    I would go with this one.

    You’re born into a system that looks after you, and gives better life opportunities that the rest of the population – you don’t even have to be religious – it’s just a formality.

    But, what you do have to do, is support and advance other Jews, since that is what they have done for you, and it’s the source of your privilege.

    Families of British Imperial colonial administrators worked the same way for many generations. They lived very well as an elite in colonies around the world, and didn’t really question the Imperial system they were born into. It was taken for granted that the Englishman was (ethnically) superior to the natives and that they and the natives led separate lives. To some extent they regarded themselves as, for example, “Indian” and were encouraged to learn local languages.

    And the small British minority held most of the political, media and commercial power.

  586. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    I tend to agree with this, but I do feel that asking Jews if they support things like Zionism, (as it’s practiced today), or immigration, as it’s practiced today, (white genocide), are ways to glimmer if the Jew you’re talking to is a Jewish supremacist

    What is it about those two metrics that make someone a Jewish supremacist? How are you defining the term?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  587. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Frank refused to pay Levin. Levin sued for breach of contract and non payment for work done. As plaintiff, Levin had to prove his claim. Levin did so by presenting the rough pages Frank gave him and the finished book.

    Levin was awarded the full $50,000. I don’t think Frank ever paid Levine despite the court order.

    Citation needed.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @annamaria
  588. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    You continue to do precisely as all the anti-Semites here do, which is to lump anyone who is a Jew by virtue of their last name, to use the Unz criterion, with particular Jews they do not like.

    Here’s a good solution to this. How about the “good Jews” start opening their mouths and declaim the “bad Jews”, or at least declaim some of the destructive policies they are promoting? Not only would this serve to put distance in the public’s mind between them and the bad Jews, but with their considerable talent and wealth they might actually manage to help combat some of these bad policies. Where are their voices??

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  589. @Anonymous

    “Humanity”

    Jews are more than willing to side with the East Coast Irish-Catholics (Influential on the East Coast) or with Italians (Especially if they have criminal tendencies) and Asians in tech industry. Jews who refused to work or side with Irish-Catholics in Hollywood would not be employed, ditto Silicone Valley.

    Previously they cooperated with the WASP elite like Bush, Rockefeller.

    Geographically, they are not going to side with whites who have no money and live in the US interior outside the East or West Coast.

    The WASP elite would coop these people for votes like Bush did. But Jews are usually Democrats, who pander to them like Clinton did.

  590. anon787 says:
    @Anon

    See Russians, Jews, and the Pogroms of 1881-1882 Paperback – January 30, 2014
    by John Doyle Klier, and other works by Klier, a professor of Eastern European history at UCL

  591. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Lincoln was worried friends might turn into enemies. The fort was federal territory, not local. And it was ready for anything.

    • Replies: @utu
  592. @Jeff Stryker

    Iraq was invaded because we hated their socialist free medical care. And, as Hillary said, we gave them the precious gift of freedom. The dead ones, that is.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  593. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The oil companies don’t have to invade each other’s countries for oil. They just buy and sell it whatever governments do.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  594. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    Unz, please read Voluptuous Panic which covers the Weimar Reoublic degeneracy. Very telling of the world we live in.

  595. Sean says:
    @Anon

    The pigs are the pre revolution socialists who become the post communist elite. No identifiable Jewish character in Animal Farm is not a pig and the pigs who turn unto humans are very clearly based on gentile models such as Stalin and Molotov. The gentiles are by and large non-pigs, such as an unthinking workhorse, or snarling servile dogs. The identifiable gentile characters who are pigs are nonintellectual, self serving or servile, and malevolent. The identifiable Jews among the pigs are none of those things.

    Orwell was by no means unusual in seeing the problems of socialism as down to venal white gentiles prone to antisemitism who appropriated the leadership positions and turned out the real heroes of the story. I’m not saying he would have put it in those words, but he was far less suspicious of Jews in the Bolshevik elite than those who defeated them. He could not see the ethnic dimension of Jews overthrowing any system that did not allow them to rise in accordance with their intellectual merits, and if that interpretation of his historically accurate fables had been brought out to him, he would doubtless have scoffed it was “trivial’.

    • Replies: @Anon
  596. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    It seems US and UK encouraged Japan to modernize to counter Russian expansion in the Pacific.

    UK and US were happy to see Japan gain the edge in 1905 war with Russia.

  597. @James N. Kennett

    The Jewish revolution closed churches but did NOT close synagogues, until equal opportunity called for it. (TV program, The Jews by Abba Eban.) And contrary to Zionist propaganda Jews in Tsarist Russia were NOT oppressed. There were almost 4000 Jewish nobles. Anti-Semitism is a Jewish invention, invented by Zionists as the essential part of the program. Anti-Semitism IS Judaism. You cannot justify hating everyone around you without the mental illness of persecution mania. But Lazar Kaganovich blew up the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, and Jews murdered hundreds of thousands of priests. As Rabbi Stephen Wise said: “Some call it Marxism. I call it Judaism.” Stop deceiving yourself and you won’t deceive others.

  598. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Why? It’s common knowledge.

  599. Seraphim says:
    @Derryl

    About the relation Joly-Protocols I recommend again what I recommended at #182:

    ‘The Protocols of Zion [email protected]://mailstar.net/toolkit.html for an extensive discussion about the authenticity.

    You can’t talk about the French Revolution without the classics:
    “Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism (French: Mémoires pour servir à l’histoire du Jacobinisme)” of the Abbé Augustin Barruel. Hudson & Goodwin for C. Davis, 1799.
    “Proofs of a Conspiracy against all the Religions and Governments of Europe, carried on in the Secret Meetings of Free-Masons, Illuminati and Reading Societies, etc., collected from good authorities, Edinburgh, 1797″ of John Robison.

  600. @ploni almoni

    “We hated free socialist medical care”

    Why didn’t we invade Denmark then?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  601. cassandra says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I thought it would be clear from context, but the reference to a TV show was metaphorical rather than literal, that once certain (documented) policies set out by Germany and England were set in place, a disastrous outcome was inevitable. To allay your anxiety, I HAVE seen Hogan’s heroes, as well as Jackie Gleason, on youtube, although it never occurred to me to draw serious conclusions from TV comedies. I am in awe of your insight!

  602. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Exactly. Was it the oil companies that pushed for an embargo against Iraqi oil exports all those years?

  603. cassandra says:
    @Rurik

    the Jews lived in Palestine side by side in relative harmony with Muslims and Christians for hundreds of years. Just as Jews thrive in harmony in Iran, and other Muslim nations.

    Jews do live in Iran, with limited opportunities.

    Re Palestine: around 1856, in connection with the Crimean War, the French forced reforms on the Ottomans to ease the plight of the “Dhimmi”, the second-class Jews and Christians who lived under repressive taxation and submission. (See the book by Bat Ye’or). I wouldn’t characterize the lives of the Jews and Christians before this time, having to pay a 50% jizzya tax and demonstrating public submission, as “relative harmony.” The loss of revenue by easing of the Dhimmi tax is sometimes given as an explanation for the Ottoman decline, and indeed the Young Turks movement was a fundamentalist reaction to this Islamic misfortune. This radical political hostility is founded on injunctions to wage jihad to make the kaffir once again submit, or at least to drive them from the Umma. This is likely to be a motivation of at least SOME members of Hamas in Palestine.

    For the rest, we agree, in that you describe in detail what I meant by disenfranchisement. This is something shared both by Palestinian Christians as well as Muslims, and is fundamentally economic, unjust and is the product of interwar Jewish behavior, and Israeli policy afterward.

    As for the acid-throwers and rapists, yeah, they’re an abomination, but we must admit grimly that they ARE human. Thinking otherwise dangerously erodes our ability to assess their behavior and motives and to respond effectively. Not that we’re doing so well right now.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Rurik
  604. cassandra says:
    @Anonymous

    Dream on. You’ve underestimated the goyim (once again). No one sane supports your illegitimate, genocidal, shit-hole “policies”.

    As much as I’d like to swap insults, I’m unsure what to do when they’re so misplaced. You really seem to have somehow jumped to the conclusion that “Israeli’s policies” are my own, despite explicit statements of mine to the contrary. Perhaps you’d like to reformulate that response.

    I DID say what you quoted:

    Many critics of Islam and immigration DO support Israel’s policies

    Here I have in mind critics of Islam such as Robert Spencer and his associates, who see the problems with Islam, by tend to look uncritically at Israeli issues. I tried to explain how that happened, and that I’m sympathetic with neither side, I think in agreement with what seems to be your position.

  605. renfro says:
    @CanSpeccy

    So the key question is not how the big Jews behave, we know how they behave, but how to restrain their behavi0r.

    Promoting anti-Semitism, which is loudly expressed on this site, seems entirely counterproductive. It creates the antagonism that justifies the exploitation, whereas what is required is to allow what in an atheistic age is the natural process of assimilation to take place.

    That is one of the most remarkably naïve comments I have seen on here.

  606. renfro says:
    @Israel Shamir

    The Bolsheviks undid Jewish culture and religion in the USSR: very few synagogues survived, the language practically disappeared, and Jewish community in Russia had been obliterated almost completely. By 1970, there were no Jews at the top, no Jewish life, intermarriage was well above 60%. So it does not make much sense to present the Revolution as a Jewish takeover.

    The predominance of Jewish Bolsheviks is well established—if you want the list of the members of all Bolshevik agencies and their ethnic origins look thru my archives…there is a list there.
    So whether those Jews were involved for some goal of a Jewish takeover of Russia or were involved as communist doesn’t much matter.
    The fall of the Jews was because the revolution eventually failed.

  607. renfro says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Kissinger would go to great lengths to pressure the Russian government to allow its Jewish subjects to immigrate to Israel

    I promised myself would lay off calling commenters like you stupid…..but you are ignorant.

    Kissinger didn’t give a rats ass about getting jews out of Russia….in fact he called them traitors to the US for pressuring congress (the Jackson Act)_to make the trade deal he and Nixon were working out with Russia dependent on letting jews leave without paying a exit fee. The Russians responded to that demand by saying they would not let the US dictate Russia’s national polices….so the whole deal fell apart…..and the entire world has been worst because of this ever since.

    Which is why Kissinger said this:

    ”Jews behaving treasonously ”

    ”It is a shocking phrase, one that reveals much about Kissinger. There is the psychological element: A Jew who had reached such incredible heights under a man who clearly had a paranoid view of Jewish power felt he had to overcompensate to prove where his loyalties lay. It also offers a view into the darkest consequences of Kissinger’s political philosophy, an extreme realpolitik kind of thinking that sacrificed moral or human rights concerns for the sake of building strategic geopolitical relationships. And finally, it tells us about Kissinger’s relationship with the American Jewish community.

    Some context has been lost here, as Kissinger himself has made clear in a statement he released to the Forward. This 1973 conversation is in response to a Jewish groundswell of support for the Jackson-Vanik amendment, legislation that offered assistance to Soviet Jews and at that moment posed a threat to Kissinger’s entire foreign policy strategy, detente. He was frustrated and angry that Jews were the ones sabotaging, as he saw it, his delicate attempt at stabilizing the world through weaving “an intersecting web of interests” between the two Cold War enemies.

    “I think that the Jewish community in this country on that issue is behaving unconscionably,” Kissinger said to President Nixon moments after his gas chamber comment. “It’s behaving traitorously.”

    Read more: undefined/news/133939/why-kissinger-said-us-jews-acted-traitorously/

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  608. Heros says:
    @Rurik

    “do you think it would do your (and perhaps my) cause any good to come off as a Grand Wizard of the KKK, and speak as if every black or Jew were a spawn of Beelzebub?”

    The KKK is as fake and astroturfed as the NAACP, it makes no sense to even mention it. It is just another kike false flag narrative created to discredit and smear whites in general, and white Southerners specifically. The KKK was originally created to protect Southern whites against jew carpetbaggers who were firing their negro-bullets at white Christians to cover their land thefts, and has now been turned into just another branch of the holohoax religion. It was a form of resistance to the same kind of kike conquest that the Nazi pary formed later in Germany. Reconstruction was the de-nazification blue print.

    Long ago, almost in another life before I “woke”, I used to listen to Limbaugh where Sowell, and that other black economist sometimes even guest hosted. Mark Steyn was also one of my favorites. Of course, I know that they are all either brain dead war mongers, or that they a just liars.

    In short, I could care less if a black or a jew doesn’t read one of my posts because he thinks I am a “KKK Grand Wizard” because even if they bothered to read my comment it likely would not penetrate the cognitive dissonance programmed into their brains for their entire lives. You may think that by qualifying your comments that they despise that they will then listen and think about what you wrote, but once again I say it is a waste of time. These people, like your jew friends, will never accept the Protocols or the truth about 9/11.

    On a similar note, I am an ex-US person, having renounced many years ago. For several years now I can no longer enter the US without being harassed for hours by CBP. I despise the US, and I find Americans disgusting. They are simultaneously incredibly arrogant and incredibly stupid. Their minds have been wiped clean by years of aggressive propaganda and lies. The have been stupid dupes for the jews through 2 world wars for Israel.

    At the same time, my extended Family are Americans, and I still have old friends I would love to see there. I still love my siblings, even though some of them have insulted me and said mean things like “don’t let the door hit you in the back of the head” or “tax cheat” or “why couldn’t you just pay your taxes”. Of course, for decades I pointed out how their government had made my life incredibly complicated for nothing except empire. Just like trying to discuss the Protocols or the genocide of Christian Europe, it is a lost cause.

    Now I will let this issue die, with the sentiment that whatever pre-qualifying your JQ truths with “I have jew friends” may gain you in terms of credibility with the jews, your loss of credibility with woke Christians will be greater.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  609. anon[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Keith Murdoch’s letter from Gallipoli re waste and incompetence wasn’t released until 1967.
    He could have spoken up once he returned to Australia, maybe his career as a journalist and power broker outweighed his, ahem, patriotism?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  610. Seraphim says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The agreement was the first of the agreements between the Allies on how to reorganize the territories of Austro-Hungary and Ottoman Empire after their defeat. It was signed on 18 March 1915.
    It was followed by the Treaty of London of 26 April 1915 between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, the French Third Republic, the Russian Empire, and the Kingdom of Italy, promising to satisfy the demands of ‘Italia irredenta’. The Treaty envisaged also the territorial claims of Serbia and Montenegro although they were not present.
    Another one was the The Sykes–Picot Agreement (of which there is still much foaming at the mouth) officially known as the Asia Minor Agreement of 16 May 1916 between the United Kingdom and France,to which the Russian Empire assented. The agreement defined their mutually agreed spheres of influence and control in Southwestern Asia. It should be stressed that the agreement stipulated: “That in the brown area [Palestine and Jerusalem] there shall be established an international administration, the form of which is to be decided upon after consultation with Russia, and subsequently in consultation with the other Allies, and the representatives of the Shereef of and Mecca”.

    The retreat of Russia from the scene practically killed the clause of the internationalization of Jerusalem although it was maintained by the two remaining signatories France and England. But England was determined also to kill the idea of international administration. The General Allenby had already the instructions of the Chief of Staff “not entertain any ideas of joint administration.” Jerusalem remained under exclusive British Martial Law to implement the promises of the Balfour
    Declaration issued on the 2nd of November. 7th of November the Bolshevik coup, 8th of November the Decree on Peace which announced the withdrawal of Russia from the war, 25th of November the denunciation of the ‘secret treaties’, 9th of December occupation of Jerusalem.

    It also enabled the British to occupy Constantinople on 13 November 1918.

    When we talk about the role played by Jews in the ‘Russian’ revolution we should look not only at the number of Jewish commissars in CEKA.

  611. @renfro

    If Jews controlled Communism than why did Jews have such a rough experience under that system, was my point.

    Nixon was largely paranoid of Jews because they led the Left (Hoffman etc) in protests against the Vietnam War.

    And no, I’m not going to read long fake news lengths. You can listen to Kissinger and Nixon on You Tube (And about blacks, abortion, gays etc).

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Wally
  612. Seraphim says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    What exactly was the ‘rough experience’ of Jews under the system? The lost of control?

  613. @anon

    Let me see what you are trying to say. Keith Murdoch had died in 1949 as you may know. Was the 1967 release of a letter a release of government documents after a 50 year time period?
    As to what the patriotic thing to do was, why are you suggesting that exercising influence on governments to save Australian lives (whether by withdrawing from Gallipoli or replacement of incompetent generals) was not the most effective way to be patriotic?

    • Replies: @anon
  614. Heros says:

    Here is a fascinating new 3hr mp3 podcast interview with Tim Kelly/Richard Spence about Spences book Agent 666:

    https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757/episodes/2018-07-25T05_48_24-07_00

    “Richard Spence returns to discuss his book Secret Agent 666: Aleister Crowley, British Intelligence and the Occult. Spence provides strong evidence exposing Aleister Crowley as a British intelligence asset and argues that much of the Great Beast’s public vilification was a cover to mask his role as a secret agent.”

    https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Agent-666-Aleister-Intelligence/dp/1932595333/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1532690243&sr=8-1&keywords=agent+666&dpID=51Qf9UoFBpL&preST=_SY344_BO1,204,203,200_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

    [MORE]

    The interview (and book) has several revelations:
    - Crowely likely worked simultaneously for MI5, British Naval Intelligence, and the German Central Command.

    - In Germany he was working with fellow spy, bisexual, and occultist Theodor Reuss, while in America he was chasing fellow spy, bisexual and occultist Roger Casement

    - Crowely was working in the US throughout WWI to get the US into the war, while simultaneously creating war propaganda for the German High Command to use in the US while it was still neutral.

    - Crowely traveled on Oct 31, 1914 from England to the US on the Lusitania. He claimed he was the one responsible for the sinking of the Lusitania because he had told the Germans that they needed to make a show of force to the US. At the same time he was working for British Naval Intelligence to send Lusitania on the right path.

    - During this period Crowely was experimenting with different drugs (and sex acts) and discovered sythetic Mescaline, of which as an agent of the English he had an unlimited supply. He would invite people to his house, dose their curry (of which he was a good cook) with Mescaline and observe and write their reactions. This is remarkably similar to hippies spiking the punch and other actions of the Tavistock Institute through their agents like Timothy Leary and Owsley Stanley. Stanley, a descendant of Crowley, also from the Grateful Dead MKUltra music scene, is famous not only for the millions of doses of LSD that he supposedly created and gave out for free, but also for spiking the coffee at the Playboy After Dark coming out of the Grateful Dead.

    - Apparently Crowley was testing all these drugs for usage of mind control during interrogation.

    - When WWII started, Crowley went back to work for British Naval Intelligence, where Spence thinks Crowley had a hand in the interrogation of Rudolf Hess, who later complained that he was being forced to take “Mexican Brain Poison” .

    - Spence also ties occultists and spies through John Dee back to Elizabethan England in the 16th century.

  615. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Since, for 18 hours or so, the site denied me access to the comment box, it seemed plausible that my comments were not welcome. However, it now seems more probable that the exclusion was the consequence of a technical problem.

    Yes, this is hilarious; RU is obviously terrified of you, you should post more.

    Why, incidentally, as a devout Christian, are you such a sour cunt?

    Why, as a Modern Mind(tm), do you think you can shock people by use of obscene language? It seems our Modern Mind has wandered off and become stuck somewhere about 1850.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  616. @Anon

    The period I am referring was the 1980′s.

    I’m currently 44 years old. Because Gen Y are so immature and live at home at the age of 35 like yourself, I would seem much older.

    This is only because Gen Y has not been able to reach full adulthood and live in a permanent adolescence due to economic circumstances reducing them to the maturity of a 15 year old.

    But I digress.

  617. @Anon

    The Polish were retirees and some were unable to leave Detroit, rather like Boer farmers today.

    Unlikely these retirees were in the backstreets of Detroit scoring crack.

    No wonder the Jews run your life. You’re easily confused.

    • Replies: @Anon
  618. @Anon

    I’m not Jewish and you are not a white urban Catholic. You’re probably female (I’m sure of it) and from a rural redneck Protestant background.

  619. anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Russo – Japan was the occasion that Schiff used to destroy or attempted to destroy Czar ‘s Russia . He forced America not to provide the loan to Russia . He forced US to tilt to Japan militarily .

  620. Anon[423] • Disclaimer says:

    I would agree with your statement: “The response to the Jew push for open borders mass immigration will be the mass expulsion of Jews from European Christian nations.”

    The revenge that some of the Jews have wreaked upon Whites, Native Europeans, and White and Native Christians will have a boomerang effect. Some call it karma. Nietzsche is said to have gone crazy at the end of his life, but he did have a fundamental knowledge about revenge:
    “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche

    When the EU-Globalist-Rothschild-Soros-Communist Jews-Communist Blacks-Muslims-Negro World Order (NWO) cabal has accomplished its diabolical plan to flood Black African and Middle Eastern muslims into Europe and America, with the most success in Western Europe, then Whites, Native Europeans, and Christians who are White and Native Europeans will be demographically replaced and, ultimately, exterminated. When there are only muslims left to dominate in America and Europe, then there will be no one to protect the Jews. Instead, the remaining hordes of billions of muslims around the world will ensure the Jews, too, are exterminated.

    Abolish the White Race
    September-October 2002

    http://harvardmagazine.com/2002/09/abolish-the-white-race.html

    [MORE]

    “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the Whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.” Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the U.S. Congressional Record, Volume 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957

    “The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face, so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists. Make no mistake about it we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed.” – Jewish Professor Noel Ignatiev – Harvard Magazine September-October 2002

    “It is in the Jewish interest, it is in humanities interest that whites experience a genocide. Until white children are burned alive, white women raped, mutilated, murdered and all white men who have not been slaughtered watch powerlessly as their people are terrorised; only then will mankind be on a more equal footing, ready to discuss white privilege and the apparent chip on the shoulder that minorities have.” – Jew Ishmael Levitts

    A quote from Rabbi Rabinovitch in Budapest in 1952: “The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach, and because its fulfillment is so apparent, it behooves us to increase our efforts and our caution tenfold. I can safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will take its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every Gentile a slave. We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generation of white children is now being born. Our control Commissions will, in the interest of peace and wiping out our interracial tensions, forbid the whites to mate with white. The white woman must cohabit with members of the dark races, the white men with black women. Thus the white race will disappear, for mixing the dark with white means the end of the white man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark people.”

    The Solution to White Supremacy is White Abortion
    6/21/17

    https://medusamagazine.com/beyond-pro-choice-the-solution-to-white-supremacy-is-white-abortion

    “White women: it is time to do your part! Your white children reinforce the white supremacist society that benefits you…White women should be encouraged to abort their white children, and to use their freed-up time and resources to assist women of color who have no other choice but to raise their children.”
    Stanford University Introduces Course on ‘Abolishing Whiteness’
    8/12/17

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/08/11/stanford-university-introduces-course-on-abolishing-whiteness/

    Stanford University will introduce a course this fall which will task students with considering “abolishing whiteness” and the ultimate goal of understanding “what is the future of whiteness,” according to the institution’s course catalog.

    Black Youtuber calls for White Genocide
    8/13/17

    https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/news/black-youtuber-calls-white-genocide

    Real Racism: Black Lives Matter Leader Calls for Genocide of White People”
    2/13/17

    https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/yusra-khogali-white-people-genocide/

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  621. Heros says:

    “Germany sent Lenin to Russia for their own purposes, to help take Russia out of the war. Parvus was acting on behalf of Germany.”

    Parvus was not acting on behalf of Germany.

    “Parvus, who assisted Trotsky in his voyage to the United States, played another significant role for the Secret Elite in spiriting Lenin safely across enemy territory and into Russia.

    Around 1908 Parvus moved to Constantinople where he remained for five years. He was associated with the Young Turks, produced propaganda journals, set himself up as grain importer and, more importantly, an arms merchant. Parvus became extremely rich, but his years in Constantinople were shrouded in mystery. His most important contact was Basil Zaharoff, the leading armaments salesman and agent of the Rothschilds and their mighty Vickers Armaments cartel.

    The Secret Elite had decided to spirit Lenin and Trotsky into Russia as quickly as possible. This was Parvus’s masterstroke. Immediately after the February Revolution he entered negotiations with the German authorities to provide a special train to transfer Lenin and his supporters safely through Germany from Switzerland. Interestingly, it was Arthur Zimmermann, by now the German Foreign Secretary, who made the initial contact by inviting Parvus to meet with him. Thereafter, Zimmermann personally supervised the arrangements.

    We have to question Zimmermann’s actions, both here and in later activities such as his infamous and ludicrous telegram that provided Woodrow Wilson with the perfect excuse to bring the United States into the war. Was Zimmermann, in collusion with Max Warburg and other Rothschild agents such as Zaharoff, acting in the interests of Bolshevism and Zionism rather than those of Germany? He was certainly sympathetic to the Zionist cause, protected Palestinian Jews when they were threatened by the Turkish authorities and mooted the idea of a joint Turkish-German declaration in favour of colonisation in March 1917. “

    Zaharoff, the masonic arms merchant, worked with Parvus, the Donmeh jews arms merchant, who worked with Zimmermann to get Trotsky and Lenin into Russia as soon as their fellow craftsman Kerensky was elected.

    Meanwhile, in the US, occultist and child sacrificing pervert Crowley is working with German intelligence, MI5, and British Naval Intelligence.

    In reality, both wars were just one Judaic secret society pulling strings on all sides for genocide, power, wealth and sadistic blood lust.

    • Agree: Kolo
  622. Anon[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    And this wealthy Jewish American businessman who converted to Catholicism excoriates the Jews in his 1961 speech, now famous.

    Benjamin Freedman’s 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete)

  623. @cassandra

    cassandra opined: “Jews do live in Iran, with limited opportunities.”

    Hi cass,

    Above — by chance — do you mean Jews, domiciled in Iran, do not have good career opportunities such as getting “upwardly mobile” jobs with the Islamic Republic government?

    Too bad CIA/Mossad has yet to advance the
    fortunes of an American Iranian Political Action Committee, headquartered in Teheran, eh?

    Thanks, cass!

    • Replies: @cassandra
  624. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    In some posts you claimed the young Whites stayed in Detroit because they had no job skills and became drug addicts. Now you claim the Whites were retired and stayed because their houses were worthless

    So what is it???? Your contempt and disdain for the White goyim is very very Jewish.

  625. @Sean

    It seems to be forgotten by some on this thread that Churchill’s career sufferred a major setback as a result of the failure of the Dardanelles/Gallipoli campaigns.

    In your comment you say Churchill was deliberately helping Germany. That is the first time I think that my reaction to a comment of yours is that it sounds barmy. Would you care to flesh it out and justify it? Also can you elaborate on the pros and cons of letting Turkey have it’s new warships.

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
  626. Rurik says:
    @Mike P

    most seem politically extremely naive and deep asleep.

    you could say the exact same thing about Gentiles, Mike.

    They have the inside track

    yes, sort of. But it’s basically just their ludicrous narrative about being ‘chosen’ and ‘persecuted’, blah, blah.

    Few of them know the truth depths of Straussian depravity that motivates the hard-core neocons.

    And of the few who understand completely, few of these people are more rabid in their promotion of neocon tropes more than Gentiles like George Will or James Woolsey..

    There are no Jews who’re more demented in their Zionist war zealotry than John McCain or Lindsey Graham.

    Everywhere you look, there are Gentiles demanding death to the Palestinians, like that lard arse Hagee. Or the other evangelicals.

    It’s the (especially “Christian”) Gentiles (Nikki Haley) who’re frothing their demands for war, War, WAR!!! (for Israel)

    Still, I was heartened when that Israeli born actress refused to accept an award in Israel because the murderous Zionists were busy slaughtering unarmed protestors. And she had more humanity in her delicate little frame than the entire membership of (an overwhelmingly Gentile) congress who sends the bullets that Israel uses to murder nurses caring for maimed teenagers.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @Anonymous
  627. Rurik says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Rubbish, the oil companies in Texas did not care about Israel, Iraq had oil.

    pure idiocy

    have you seen the video of Gen. Clark talking about the seven nations (inconvenient to Israel) that were slated for destruction using the false flag ruse of 9/11 as the pretext?

    Most people here have seen it often, so I’m not going to post it again. Just do a search and you’ll find it.

    Why would the US have invaded Iraq instead of other countries like Iran or Lebanon that opposed Israel more virulently?

    they’re all on the list

    This is what Thomas Friedman said of the march to war on Iraq

    Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It’s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It’s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/golden-oldies-tom-friedman-telling-an-arab-society-to-suck-on-this/

    Friedman’s office is not in Texas.

  628. anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    “However, German counter-intelligence had penetrated part of the socialist revolutionary network and upon reading his writing in the socialist press during the Russo-Japanese War, found Parvus had

    predicted that Russia would lose the war
    ———————————————————

    resulting in unrest and revolution. When this proved to be the case, Parvus’ prestige among his socialist and other German comrades increased. Thus, German intelligence soon estimated he would be useful in efforts against the Russian Empire.”
    Wikipedia

    How the heck did he predict?

    Here lies the value of the conntivity- insider information.

  629. Mike P says:
    @Rurik

    most seem politically extremely naive and deep asleep.

    you could say the exact same thing about Gentiles, Mike.

    You are correct of course. What I was driving at is that Jews might be expected to pay more attention to Jewish and Israeli politics and history, and thus a greater proportion of them might wake up and realize the true state of affairs. A greater number of aware and fair-minded Jews could do a lot of good to the world at large and also to their own tribe/people – one million more of them could make a greater difference, and they would have a better opportunity to work toward a peaceful resolution, than would one million more aware Gentiles.

    BTW Rurik, I always like your spirited comments.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Rurik
  630. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    Zionism, (as it’s practiced today), or immigration, as it’s practiced today, (white genocide), are ways to glimmer if the Jew you’re talking to is a Jewish supremacist

    What is it about those two metrics that make someone a Jewish supremacist? How are you defining the term?

    well, the first one should be obvious, I would think.

    Zionism as it’s practiced today is a direct expression of people who see the world in these terms:

    “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” –Rabbi Ya’acov Perin in his eulogy at the funeral of mass murderer Dr. Baruch Goldstein

    have you ever heard Adolf Hitler or David Duke speak of racial supremacy in such ways?

    As for (massive and transformational) immigration into all white, Western nations, (a la Barbara Spectre), this is (OBVIOUSLY) an agenda to destroy white, Western nations so that Jewish supremacists can enslave and lord it over the defenseless whites left menaced by non-Whites.

    Zimbabwe

    South Africa

    Detroit

    everywhere they can accomplish it. Their hatred for your white arse is nether-worldly. It’s not just psychotic and pathological, it’s all-consuming and even beyond my comprehension.

    No one hates like a Jewish supremacist hates. And when they demand their assorted methods of white genocide, whether its European wars or immigration, they’re motivated by something in the triune brain, where tribalism is red in tooth and claw. Only they don’t use spears to kill their enemies, they use ‘liberalism’ and ‘compassion’ and ”refugees”. But at (black) heart, it’s all motivated by raw, pure malevolence.

  631. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P

    “BTW Rurik, I always like your spirited comments.”

    Asinus asinum fricat

    • Replies: @Mike P
  632. Rurik says:
    @cassandra

    This is likely to be a motivation of at least SOME members of Hamas in Palestine.

    no doubt

    just because I staunchly support the Palestinian cause, (for obvious reasons), does not mean I support everything they believe or do. I once read they tolerate child brides, (not sure if that’s true), but if so, I consider that a barbarism. An abomination, (if true). (I’m not talking about fourteen year olds, I’m talking about ten year olds and younger).

    Anyways, there is slavery and (white slavery in Israel) and human trafficking and organ trafficking and other shit that goes on all over, but just because there are injustices in the world, doesn’t mean we should put our heads in the sand and ignore the enormities of injustice like Palestine, (especially when we’re forced to fund it all and provide legal and “moral” cover for it).

    As for the acid-throwers and rapists, yeah, they’re an abomination, but we must admit grimly that they ARE human. Thinking otherwise dangerously erodes our ability to assess their behavior and motives and to respond effectively.

    well, perhaps on some academic, ‘intellectual’ sphere.. I agree that they’re (putatively) human.

    but treating them as human is not the solution.

    humans deserve, by their membership in the human species, a certain type of commiseration.

    whereas sub-human scum, who gang rape children or toss acid in baby’s faces, to not deserve any shred of human compassion. No. Fuck no!

    this is what pisses me off about Scandinavian and soy Europe’s sense of justice for animals who brutally rape their children.

    they coddle them with kid gloves. And only encourage the next animal to acid attack their citizens.

    There is a time when an eye for an eye makes sense. And if you toss acid in a baby’s face, then you should be put down like a rabid dog. Only with less compassion. A rabid dog had no choice to be anything else. But a sub-human rapist of children is, as you point out, putatively human, and therefor must be held to a higher

    standard.

    (the one on the photo raped a thirteen year old boy in Iran, if I have the correct photo)

    • Replies: @cassandra
  633. Mike P says:
    @anonymous

    Asinus asinum fricat.

    Semper ubi sub ubi.

  634. Rurik says:
    @Heros

    Reconstruction was the de-nazification blue print.

    yep

    your jew friends, will never accept the Protocols or the truth about 9/11.

    Dr Alan Sabrosky is a Jewish American.

    I despise the US, and I find Americans disgusting. They are simultaneously incredibly arrogant and incredibly stupid.

    LOL!

    You are not alone, Sir!

    one of the things I’ve glimmered being here at the Unz is how some people (L.K., Kiza, many others ; ) whom I have respect for- yet they harbor a deep and abiding hatred for Americans. And I suppose in many, if not most cases, it’s justified.

    I too harbor a deep antipathy for our congress and the assorted scum who lick Jewish supremacist private parts for an extra shekel or a pat on the head. Think Sheldon Adelson’s coterie of courtesans. Licking his soiled bathroom casino floor to demonstrate their eternal fealty.

    It is beyond disgusting, I have to admit. But is Tony Blair’s England or zio-France any better?

    Where is this vaunted land were the feculent hand of Zion doesn’t pervade the politic, and deprave the culture?

    Actually I have every intention of leaving myself, because I know there are places as yet untouched by the glob. Sometimes I joke about going to Uruguay, but then again I’m not sure it’s just a joke. Anyways, I agree that America is a festering boil of Zionist sewage and rot.

    But there are also very many good and decent people languishing here, who know in their bones that something is terribly wrong, but they have no idea what it is, due to the all-pervasion zio-lies they’ve marinated in their entire lives.

    Indeed, this is the reason movies like the Matrix and V were so popular. Because people instinctively know something is incredibly wrong, but they can’t put their finger on it.

    That’s where we come in, Heros. As we gently guild them to the red pill

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Heros
  635. @Wizard of Oz

    ” Also can you elaborate on the pros and cons of letting Turkey have it’s new warships.”

    The British reneged on the agreement to provide Turkey with battleships. But it has been argued Britain still wanted Turkey to be protected from a Russian invasion. And so the German warships Goeben and Breslau were allowed escape to Constantinople by the British. Goeben was more powerful than any Russian warship in the Black Sea. So long as those warships were in Constantinople the Russians could not attempt a landing to capture the great city. https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com//?s=breslau+sms&search=Go

  636. Rurik says:
    @Mike P

    Thanks Mike,

    and I reciprocate in kind.

    Also I agree that there are Jews who are potential allies. (in spite of what some well-intentioned people say ; )

    as I just pointed out, Dr Alan Sabrosky is one such Jew.

    I’m also reminded of the Israeli ‘Refuseniks’. Young Jews who go to jail rather than participate in the depraved oppression of the Palestinians.

    • Agree: Mike P
    • Replies: @annamaria
  637. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    Specifically, why would they support the great settler states of the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the Republic of South Africa, while condemning the Israeli settler state with which the Western states are so closely affiliated?

    because they never supported the white people of those places to begin with.

    There you go again. It’s always “they.” If Soros is a bad egg, or Adelson, or some porn merchant or Hollywood scumbag, then all Jews must be bad eggs.

    But the facts don’t support such broad-brush treatment of American Jews. However, all American Jews have their feelings, and insofar as you and just about everyone else engaged in this discussion hold all Jews responsible for the actions of some Jews, you help force Jews into a self-defensive collective.

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @Jason1
  638. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jsm

    Of COURSE ordinary jews are funding Big Jewry organizations. ADL got 48 MILLION dollars in donations in fiscal 2016. That’s one year. That money came from somewhere — and I think I can safely say it t’weren’t folks like Wally sending in the money.

    48 million bucks is a LOT of money.

    OF COURSE!

    It’s hopeless arguing with people who think writing in ALL CAPS is a substitute for evidence.

    And 48 million bucks is actually not that much to people like Adelson.

    This source reports a single 2016 contribution of $17.2 million and $1.3 million contribution from unnamed individuals.

    And further:

    In 2017, the organization acknowledged that it had received a number of contributions from major corporations such as J.P. Morgan, Apple, Uber and MGM Resorts in addition to a $1 million contribution from the CEO of 21st Century Fox, James Murdoch.[59]

    Identified foundation contributors to ADL come from a variety of backgrounds; many specialize in Jewish religious and civic interests. Notable foundation funders have included the left-wing Ford Foundation and the Adelson Family Foundation of conservative casino magnate Sheldon Adelson.

    So your claim that all the Jews in America contribute to the ADL is complete bollocks. The ADL is funded by a handful of big donors including Sheldon Adelson and the Ford Foundation.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  639. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    Why, as a Modern Mind(tm), do you think you can shock people by use of obscene language?

    Hey Anon, you pathetic shrinking violet, if you have something to contribute to the argument, spit it out. Otherwise, fuck off.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @annamaria
  640. Rurik says:

    It’s always “they.”

    Good Lord!

    I was responding to the “they” that YOU wrote!

    You said ‘they’ support…

    and so I said ‘they’ blah, blah

    for the millionth time, there are Jews and there are Jewish supremacists

    I have NOTHING against the former, and everything against the latter.

    indeed, I see your link has a photo and story about Natalie Portman, and I have been the one bringing up her brave stance for weeks here at Unz. I just mentioned her a while ago, and yet even as I point out the numerous honorable Jews, you keep with the tiresome and dishonest mantra that I’m somehow condemning all Jews. It’s exasperating.

    You know a while back, I was talking to this Republican in good standing, (a Gentile, as is were), and while he got his information from the msm, his slant on things were based on what ‘good’ Christians (Billy Graham, et al) would exhort to their flocks. So he voted for Dubya, no doubt because he was a Republican who said “Jesus”. He considered himself a good American, as all his peers would agree.

    So that’s who I was talking to, and I asked him; ‘what should be done about Palestine? What about the Saudi plan that would return Israel to the 1967 borders, with recognition.

    Right away this honest and decent (if deluded and lied to) Gentile, said that was beyond the pale.

    And then I pointed out to him that a (Gallop or Rasmussen or some such respected source) had polled American Jews and a majority supported the plan. He was sort of confounded by this, and that was my point, to force him to understand that the views put out by the GOP and evangelical whores of Zion, are not really what Jesus Christ (or even ‘the Jews’) would necessarily support.

    anyways, that’s an anecdote for what it’s worth.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  641. @Rurik

    Rurik wisely wrote: “Indeed, this is the reason movies like the Matrix and V were so popular. Because people instinctively know something is incredibly wrong, but they can’t put their finger on it.”

    Hi Rurik,

    Keep bringin’ it on, my Brother.

    Also, so people here at U.R. don’t forget the Zionist’s in-the-dumb-goyim-face “Predictive Programming” faculty, below is an incredibly prophetic TV show titled “The Lone Gunman,” which (for me) further intensified a “Matrix” experience.

    Thank you!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  642. Zumbuddi says:
    @Moi

    Same thing.

    Jewish zionism, the flip side of Jewish Bolshevism, financed by the same claque, manipulated, provoked the era of wars in Europe, exploiting Anglo, American, and Christian blood, treasure and sentimental religiosity, to achieve Jewish zionist purposes — Jewish takeover of Palestine as a kind of Vatican from which Jews would control the world.

    Supposed Jewish holocaust is a smokescreen cum projection, blaming Germans — falsely– for what Jews with and through Allies did in fact TO Germans.

    Jeff Gates: Guiilt by Association: “Criminal zionism’s most potent weapon is the ability to displace facts and evidence with Beliefs.”

  643. Heros says:

    How (((they))) love to bait and mock the stupid goyim they so much despise.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/netanyahu-absolves-hitler-of-guilt-1.5411578

    “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked public uproar when on Tuesday he claimed that the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the one who planted the idea of the extermination of European Jewry in Adolf Hitler’s mind. The Nazi ruler, Netanyahu said, had no intention of killing the Jews, but only to expel them.

    In a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, Netanyahu described a meeting between Husseini and Hitler in November, 1941: "Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them." "

  644. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Otherwise, fuck off.

    1850 again! Was there ever a Modern Mind that wasn’t stuck several centuries ago?

    you have something to contribute to the argument

    “The argument” was you tossing obscenities around, a pleasant but dated pastime. I seem to have spurred a continuation, so I’d argue that’s certainly a contribution.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  645. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    No identifiable Jewish character in Animal Farm is not a pig

    Given that only one clearly identifiable character at all (Jones) is not a pig, I’d say that’s none too surprising

    i.t was “trivial’

    It’s trivial because it’s an interpretation of history itself, not of Orwell.

  646. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Thanks, I did. Great cartoon.

    Long live Katz!

  647. Heros says:
    @Rurik

    I had to look him up:

    Alan Sabrosky is a retired Marine officer and former Director of Studies of the Army War College’s Strategic Studies Institute

    He worked at the Foreign Policy Research Institute for most of the 1970s and he was appointed director of FPRI in 1981. He has taught at Catholic University and Georgetown University”

    First of all, I am convinced that all US military officers are Masons or members of some other secret society. This Sobrosky guy in not only a jew, but with near certainty a mason. Additionally, the only jewish crime against humanity that seems to upset him is 9/11. I would guess he is a limited hangout or for some reason was personally affected by 9/11 to make him seek and admit the truth.

    So you are saying that all your jewish pals are like this guy?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  648. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Sure, that’s an extremely valid criticism.

    It is yet a more valid criticism of Strunk and White themselves, though: http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003417.html , and I am inclined to agree with my anonymous colleague #846.

    More on the same topic:

    https://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/happy-birthday-strunk-and-white/

    http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/myl/languagelog/archives/002487.html

    (By the way, is there any reason I’m now #202, when I was formerly #298? Does the hashing algorithm change every month or so?)

  649. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    “The argument” was you tossing obscenities around

    Rubbish.

    I have provided plenty of argument which you and the other members of the Unz chorus of crackpot anti-Semites won’t address.

    That, no doubt, is why you and Utu, who began the exchange of insults, seek to side-track the argument into irrelevance.

    • Replies: @Anon
  650. @Anon

    The most extreme quotes in your post are from Rabbi Rabinovich of Budapest, and Ishmael Levitts.

    “Rabbi Rabinovich” is an invention of the anti-semitic propagandist Eustace Mullins. I cannot find any evidence for the existence of “Ishmael Levitts”.

    Please stop wasting our time with these malicious and worthless invented quotes. They do not contribute anything to the discussion.

  651. Kolo says:
    @Heros

    Agree wholeheartedly

    • Replies: @Rurik
  652. annamaria says:
    @CanSpeccy

    ‘The greatest villains in the war on the European peoples are the indigenous elites, who have always hated the common people (at least since the industrial revolution), and are glad to work with a tiny minority of ambitious and unscrupulous Jews”
    – Correct. But look at the Jewish Power:
    The zionization of the Congress and the military: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/11/have-the-us-militry-gone-zionist.html
    The violations of the First Amendment to please Israel-firsters: https://popularresistance.org/texas-city-declares-no-harvey-relief-unless-applicants-promise-not-to-boycott-israel/
    The hounding of honest journalists like Helen Thomas
    The slaughterous Wars for Israel: https://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/p/war-for-israel.html
    And recently this (in addition to Israelis’ well-documented support for ISIS): Israel has been arming Ukrainian neo-Nazis: https://countercurrents.org/2018/07/05/israel-is-arming-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/
    Plus this ignominy: Israel evacuates While Helmets, the fake humanitarians: https://steemit.com/news/@jasonliberty/israel-just-evacuated-hundreds-of-white-helmet-terrorists-from-syria-to-jordan
    The same IDF has no problems with killing Palestinian medic, a young woman: https://www.democracynow.org/2018/6/4/headlines/israeli_sniper_kills_21_year_old_palestinian_medic_razan_al_najjar

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  653. annamaria says:
    @Rurik

    Thank you for posting the poem!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  654. cassandra says:
    @Rurik

    I’d heard about the organ trafficking (something else deserving the A word), but not the slavery, white or otherwise. A quick check suggests that it involves mostly prostitution, and that the US has similar rates. The question arises, since the oldest profession is legal in Israel, why isn’t the situation there similar to that in Holland, which isn’t so criticised. I’d be interested in reading more if you have a few links.

    I once read they tolerate child brides, (not sure if that’s true), but if so, I consider that a barbarism. An abomination, (if true). (I’m not talking about fourteen year olds, I’m talking about ten year olds and younger).

    Yes, and there’s more. Mohammed, the most perfect of men, married Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the relationship when she was 9. So according to strict Islamic doctrine, it’s not only permissible but commendable to do likewise. FGM and throwing homosexuals off rooftops also has doctrinal sanction.

    The most direct threat from Islam from a kaffir (non-believer) perspective is the injunction to bring the entire world into submission to Allah, first by offering the opportunity (the dawa), and then by jihadist war and enslavement of the infidels (why rape is ok). Or by hijra, wherein Islam is brought to a land by Muslim immigration. It’s pretty clear that’s what’s is going on in Europe, even if you dismiss proclamations to that effect from imams.

    In the final scheme, people of the book get a bit of a pass, but it’s not the tolerant paradise we’ve been led to believe: they need to pay an extortionate tax (jizzya) and feel themselves subdued (become dhimmi)). This video by Bill Warner is an easy intro:

    some acquaintances have found his politics and personality off-putting, but his information holds up to scrutiny.

    That’s the radical view, which some say is held by a tiny minority, but which polls show is more or less supported, when not practiced, by some 10′s of percent of Muslims, depending on the question and how it’s asked. And the program is ongoing, supported by Saudi $, the Muslim Brotherhood, and, some say, by CAIR and ISNA. Judge the latter for yourself.

    All this bears on Palestine and Hamas in a couple of ways.

    First, as the behavior of Israel itself has demonstrated, victimhood doesn’t ensure moral integrity. Just because Israel treats Palestinians abominably, we shouldn’t assume that Palestinians intrinsically hold some high moral ground, and we should keep our eyes open to what we’re actually supporting. The agenda of suicide bombers, and Hamas, may extend well beyond resistance to geographical oppression, as it apparently does in Europe.

    Second, the opposite side of the coin: just as we shouldn’t assume that all of Hamas are radical terrorists, we shouldn’t assume that the undoubtedly significant fraction of Israelis that support the atrocities in Gaza extends to the entire population. These are our allies, and I think more of an effort should be made to identify them, and their counterparts among the Palestinians. In this respect, Europe is nearly hopeless: immigrant allies like Ayan Hirsi Ali are suppressed and placed under death threats by their extremist brethren, and elites have no plan of action other than to hide the problem. Maybe the Quilliam Foundation can make some headway, maybe populist right movements can have a positive influence, or maybe lessons can be learned from the Visegrad Group.

    But, as you criticise, all this is political and/or academic. The bottom line, where practical decision-making follows discussion, is always, what to do? My first recommendation is to drop any special relation that Israel, Jews or Muslims have in the American government, and take a more politically clear-headed attitude. I see no more reason to believe that Israel’s interests always coincide with our own, than I do to assume that Muslims are so oppresed that they need to be treated as a special group. Second, probably too late for this, follow international law. If we can apply sanctions to Russia because paranoid Clapper thinks they might have interfered in our elections, hell, apply sanctions to Israel for their worst violations. Maybe none of this will happen, but then, I haven’t heard exactly what specific program the Palestinian supporters are pushing.

    On the issue of vengeance, I still think that maintaining a sense of humanity is not just academic but political. Thinking someone to be an orc is taking the easy way out. If I have to take the head of someone like this, crush his skull and twist the pulpy mass off as his bloody brain matter oozes through my fingers, I might admit to some glee, but I want to keep in mind that I’m doing this to a person, not just a monster, and so I better have a damn good reason for being willing to perform such a horrible act. There’s a twofold responsibility, to preserve not only our physical well-being but also our moral integrity, if we really intend to preserve our civilization.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Seraphim
    , @Rurik
  655. annamaria says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    because Denmark wasn’t mentioned in Oded Yinon plan?

  656. annamaria says:
    @CanSpeccy

    You are not only one of the most ignorant discussants on this forum — you also have a pedestrian mind that allows polluting the discussion with obscenities.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  657. anon[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Keith Murdoch died in 1952. He was a hack journalist during the Dardanelles Campaign of 1915, and his influence on the Australian Government at the time would have been zero.

    Press reports from the Campaign were censored, something he would have been aware of, and the one critical letter he wrote wasn’t made public until 1967.

    Verdict on Keith Murdoch’s patriotism: He was no patriot.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  658. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I have provided plenty of argument which you and the other members of the Unz chorus of crackpot anti-Semites won’t address.

    In addition to various ad hominem arguments and questionable stylistic advice, one piece of which I have in fact just been discussing, you have also provided plenty of gratuitous obscenities, which it is my pleasure to address, and which I shall continue to address, I think, as long as you oblige by keeping up the supply.

    If you in fact believe you are being sidetracked by this in your pursuit of Serious Issues, a solution presents itself, shocking in its simplicity and which I will avoid being so patronizing as to point out.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  659. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    wow Chuck,

    very prescient that one!

    and right back at you – Keep bringin’ it on, my Brother!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  660. Rurik says:
    @Heros

    Additionally, the only jewish crime against humanity that seems to upset him is 9/11.

    that’s enough for me Heros,

    imagine if the perpetrators of 9/11 were ever to be widely exposed!

    It would upend the entire zio-system.

    The power of the Fiend depends on the masses never knowing who and what he is. If somehow people could be exposed to the truth about that singularly most unprescedented heinous day of infamy, when ((they)) decided upon their method Eternal War (for Israel), while installing the Total Surveillance Police State, making us all effectively Palestinians..

    If people were to come to understand the enormity, and stone-cold evil of these people, perhaps the long overdue justice might one day come to pass. And human freedom might just linger for a generation or two longer.

    So you are saying that all your jewish pals are like this guy?.

    Not any more than my Gentile pals. As you know, the percentage of people (Jew or Gentile) who’re awake is very small.

  661. Rurik says:
    @annamaria

    Your name is definitely in that book annamaria!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  662. Rurik says:
    @Kolo

    I agree too Kolo

    except for this part

    Yet you continually grovel to the Jew

    I have one guy here telling me I’m wrong to condemn all Jews

    and another guy telling me I’m groveling to the Jews

    on the same thread

    lol

    • Replies: @Kolo
  663. cassandra says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hi ChuckO,

    a) Yup.
    b) Are you sure they haven’t already?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  664. It looks now, the US historians are looking for a scapegoat to explain the horrendous #USForeignPolicy since WWII.

    #USforeignpolicy = holocausting the 3-rd world for Wallstreet profits, since WWII 20-30 millions dead

  665. Rurik says:
    @cassandra

    Cassandra,

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    Alas, I’ve been spending too much time here, and now I have things I must tend to, and will be back in a few days.

    cheers..

    • Replies: @cassandra
  666. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    How about the “good Jews” start opening their mouths and declaim the “bad Jews”

    But of course some do. But it is difficult when anti-Semites create a climate of fear and hatred, which is why, perhaps, some Jews seem to promote anti-Semitism: it discourages the little Jews, the marginal Jews and any goyim who might criticize Jewish malefaction, from opening their mouths.

    I, not being a Jew, in name or otherwise, have no special mission to expose or admonish Jewish nationalism, racism, tribalism, supremacism or host-population exploitation, whenever it should be manifest, although I have no compunction about doing so, when the impulse moves me.

    And in any case, there is not merely, to put it crudely indeed, a division between good Jews and bad Jews, but between Jews as believers in Choseness, who in America regard themselves as a nation within a nation, but the majority of those defined as Jews by the Unz criterion of last name, who have little if any connection with the Jewish religion, culture or racial self-obsession.

    • Replies: @jsm
  667. Caruthers says:
    @Israel Shamir

    As Slezkine, Kevin MacDonald, and others have documented, the Bolshevik revolution was to a very large extent a Jewish affair, a Jewish takeover, or at least, an attempted Jewish takeover. It simply ended up in failure.

    • Replies: @pogohere
  668. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    you have also provided plenty of gratuitous obscenities

    Balls. Just three, including that one. But what do I care what some pompous, pontifical, anonymous ass has to say.

    But what your comments and those of others reveal is how much Unz’s crackpot chorus of anti-Semites are upset when their empty drivel about Jews as a collective is challenged.

    • Replies: @Anon
  669. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @annamaria

    You are not only one of the most ignorant discussants on this forum

    Thank you AnnaMaria. I am sorry that my thoughts fail to meet the level of knowledge that you expect here on the Unz Review. In future, I will try to confine my remarks to questions such as whether Jews (always regarded as an undifferentiated collective) still pray to the Devil as often as to God, and whether they still drink the blood of Christian babies and other uplifting topics such as you and Ron Unz would no doubt approve.

    • LOL: iffen
  670. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @annamaria

    ‘The greatest villains in the war on the European peoples are the indigenous elites, who have always hated the common people (at least since the industrial revolution), and are glad to work with a tiny minority of ambitious and unscrupulous Jews”

    – Correct. But look at the Jewish Power.

    Yes and who allowed Jewish power to buy great influence with the Western powers? Obviously the scoundrel indigenous elites.

  671. @Rurik

    Rurik admonished me to: “Keep bringin’ it on, my Brother!”

    Hi Rurik,
    Re; above, will do my darndest. Figuring Ron Unz won’t mind, below, I will repost the weird TV “predictive” program, “The Lone Gunman” which aired about 6 months prior to the actual False Flag (9/11) attack upon two W.T.C. towers.

    Prior to Gina Haspel’s Zenate confirmation as CIA Director, her Q&E included 33 years of spying & a management role in the ZUS harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists.

    Question: Would anyone interested & deemed qualified bother to intensely interrogate the predictively accurate-makers of “The Lone Gunman”?

    • Replies: @T
    , @Rurik
  672. @cassandra

    Knowingly, cassandra asked me: “b) Are you sure they haven’t already?”

    Hi cass,

    You got me, babe. Regret I jumped to a conclusion.

    Who really knows?

    Israelis might already have an embryo-P.A.C. covertly established in Mr. Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.

    Thanks a lot for the enlightenment!

  673. cassandra says:
    @Rurik

    I’m also exhausted for now…

    But in closing, I’d like to acknowledge a philosophical difference between us: I believe you wrote above something to the effect that evil cannot beget good. But Solzhenytsin had a slightly different viewpoint:

    “Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart — and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains … an unuprooted small corner of evil.”

    There are times when it becomes necessary to unleash that evil, but I make no excuses about doing some greater good. I only recognize the necessity, and that I have to live with the consequences.

    A bientot.

  674. @anon

    Thank you for correcting my memory of the date of Rupert’s key inheritance. 1949 was when he (KM) sacked one of my relatives allegedly for being a communist.

    I detect that you only have a superficial knowledge of Murdoch Gallipoli, WW1 and I am pretty confident in my memory of accounts of the censorship being a factor in what he did to make sure the truth got through to politicians. He took material from other journalists to London too if I remember correctly.

    What do you intend to imply by the word “hack” qualifying “journalist”? Is it anything relevant to his patriotism?

    As to your “verdict”, it is a bit like a jury verdict inasmuch as it may not be based on any evidence and in most countries one is unlikely to know. I am not sure where you get your verdict from. In the context of this thread you might conceivably be saying Keith Murdoch was part of a cover up of deliberate failures in and about the Dardanelles. Are you? Much more likely he was an Australian indignant at Australian lives being squandered and quite unimpressed, even if aware, of any long Imperial Game, or short term expedient for that matter.

    • Replies: @Heros
  675. Seraphim says:
    @cassandra

    For a better understanding of the Muslims tactics to spread the disease of Islam you may consult:
    ‘Raymond Ibrahim [email protected]/
    especially his most recent book: “Sword and Scimitar. Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West”. Yet to be released in August 2018.

    • Replies: @cassandra
  676. Heros says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “you might conceivably be saying Keith Murdoch was part of a cover up of deliberate failures in and about the Dardanelles.”

    Docherty and MacGregor are convinced that that is exactly what happened. It was necessary to keep Russia in the war because England had promised Constantinople to the Czar, and when the 2 German battlecruisers ended up in Turkeys hands, there was no longer a chance of a Russian amphibious assault.

    Here are some of their chapters on Gallipoli where they expose the judeo-masonic fraud of WWI and the useless Gallipoli invasion:

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com//?s=gallipoli+1&search=Go

    Murdoch was a member of the Milner group and a Freemason. He was clearly in on it all:

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/gallipoli-18-keith-murdoch-and-the-great-witch-hunt/

  677. BillyBob says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s rather simple actually to deconstruct the dishonest arguments in “Tombstone”. Patrick McNally does so with relative ease in his two star Amazon review:

    “Not surprisingly, many proponents of capitalist restoration in China have sought to promote the most wildly inflated estimates of famine deaths in these years in an effort to justify counter-revolution. The more honest books will simply quote plausible numbers for the years 1957-63, but without telling the reader anything about what real mortality patterns in China historically looked like. But there is another even more dishonest approach favored among some proponents of capitalism which actually requires deliberately faking statistics by citing numbers from the official statistics where it is politically convenient, yet citing higher numbers from other sources for other years.”

    “It is analogous to if someone found two census agencies which regularly offer an annual estimate of the black population in the USA, but which use a different criterion so that there is always a disparity of one million in the numbers for each year. Now suppose that someone looked up such numbers from such sources and quoted them for two consecutive years in a way which implied that white racists had murdered one million black people. That is the type of hoax which Yang Jisheng tries playing in this book.”

    “It’s easy to cite specific illustrations of this from the text. On p. 394 he says:”

    “The mortality rate in Sichuan from 1958 to 1962 was 1.517 percent, 4.69 percent, 5.39 percent, 2.942 percent, and 1.482 percent.”

    “Comparing these numbers with the numbers given by both Judith Banister and the Statistical Yearbook, it’s clear that the number “1.517 percent” which he gives for 1958 is meant to read as a little bit higher than the number “11.98 per thousand” which the Statistical Yearbook gives. Yet this number is significantly lower than the number “18.12 per thousand” which Banister gives for 1957, and the gap is even larger when compared with the “20.65 per thousand” which Banister assigns to 1958 itself.”

    “This isn’t just a fluke accident. On pp. 408-9 the author lists alleged death rates which clearly come from the Statistical Yearbook and he uses to compute what he declares to be a “normal mortality rate” of 1.047 percent. This is obviously a very steep underestimate of what real mortality rates in China up to 1957 had been like. Banister’s guess of 18.12 per thousand may even be too low, as it assumes a dramatic heretofore unprecedented drop in Chinese mortality over the years 1949-57. If Chinese mortality in 1957 had only been as low as 25 per thousand then that would still represent a dramatic gain over the preformances of Czarist Russia and pre-1949 China, while still being larger than each of the mortality rates which Banister assigns to 1958, 1959 and 1961.”

    “Obviously the reason why Yang Jusheng uses the number of 1.047 percent as an estimate drawn from the Statistical Yearbook is because when such a steep underestimate of real mortality in China is cited, then followed by more realistic estimates for the later years, it allows one to dramatically raise the numbers of deaths occurring over an alleged “normal mortality rate.” This is a very dishonest cut-and-paste method of generating false statistical results. Because of this all of the more special assertions made in this book which do not already have a general corroboration need to be treated with high skepticism. This book was put together with an agenda, and that shows.”

  678. Heros says:
    @CanSpeccy

    “There you go again. It’s always “they.” If Soros is a bad egg, or Adelson, or some porn merchant or Hollywood scumbag, then all Jews must be bad eggs.

    But the facts don’t support such broad-brush treatment of American Jews. However, all American Jews have their feelings, and insofar as you and just about everyone else engaged in this discussion hold all Jews responsible for the actions of some Jews, you help force Jews into a self-defensive collective.

    Jews are already in a destroy the goy offensive collective, what do you think WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Algeria, Lebanon, Yemen were/are about? First you have to get jews off of the offensive before you can get them into the defensive collective.

    Telling jews the truth about the blood sacrifices, blood sacrifice coverups, genocides, pedophilia, and land theft their jewish collective has committed against Christians throughout Christian history, while jews are busy profiting from the genocide of white Christian Europe, is a wasted effort. Jews may lie about leaving or hating their collective, but really they are just the Borg, they will assimilate you into their new world order where you will obey the noahide laws, they will not leave their collective.

    “Your life as it has been is over, from this time forward you will service us”.

    Trying to get a jew to confess to the centuries of crimes against humanity of his collective, and risk banishment too, is just like trying to disconnect a borg from the collective:

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  679. jsm says:
    @CanSpeccy

    but the majority of those defined as Jews by the Unz criterion of last name have little if any connection with the Jewish religion, culture or racial self-obsession.

    Prove it.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  680. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Heros

    Jews are already in a destroy the goy offensive collective, what do you think WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Algeria, Lebanon, Yemen were/are about?

    As I said:

    There you go again. It’s always “they.” If Soros is a bad egg, or Adelson, or some porn merchant or Hollywood scumbag, then all Jews must be bad eggs.

    And that includes the Jewish last named family next door, who may even now be plotting nuclear Armageddon for Goys, though, deceptively, they act pleasant enough if you meet them on the street; and the girl at the office, one of those blue-eyed blonde Ukranians, and one of the most conscientious persons one could ever meet. And then there’s Aaron the print salesman I dealt with for years at the best little print shop in Canada. Yeah, they must all be scumbag warmongers intent on the destruction of the goy. I must remember to spit in their eye next time I see one of them.

    That it seems self-evident to you that every war of the twentieth century was the result of a Jewish plot really is proof that anti-Semitism is, for some, if not a mental disease, at least an irrational obsession. Oh, sure, there are Jews in most places at most times who like everyone else are pushing their own interest, but to believe that they have dictated the course of world events for the last hundred years and more is simply paranoia taken to an extreme of silliness.

    Are there Jews without whom the world would be a better place? Of course, as is true of any race. Are factions of organized Jewry whining about anti-Semitism and persecuting those with an urge to investigate claims about the so-called Jewish Holocaust, outrageous? Yes. But to infer that (a) Jews are all powerful, and (b) that all, or even a substantial number, of those with Jewish last names in America and other Western countries are part of a conspiracy to destroy the goy is absurd.

    But there no point is laboring the point here. I will only attract further jeers from various sour orifices and the criticism of shrinking, nose-holding, no-name violets, deploring my choice of words.

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @Jeff Stryker
  681. Kolo says:
    @Rurik

    I enjoy your posts but agree with Heroes
    Perhaps the fact that you appear to be banging a jewess clouds your judgement
    Has happened to many a men

  682. Heros says:
    @CanSpeccy

    You said nothing, you addressed nothing, you just spewed the usual jew deflections and misdirections.

    Here is some truth for you:

    “audit so many that it becomes financially ruinous.”

    Evidence keeps piling in how the jews Lerner and Shulmann at the IRS targeted the Tea Party for special shyster treatment before and after the 2012 elections. I’ll bet many stupîd goyim consider Lerner and Shulmann to be “good jews” because they were such patriotic “good democrats” that they rigged the election for the jew owned democrat party.

    If a jew votes democrat patriotically, clearly that makes him a good jew./sarc

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  683. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    Are you satisfied with the documentation exposing Frank’s fraud (very profitable)? https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/01/anne-frank-hoax-exposed/

  684. annamaria says:
    @Rurik

    Agree. The most prudish need to be reminded of certain Dick Cheney, the most malicious traitor of the US citizenry’ interests.

  685. annamaria says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Where are the 52 main Jewish organization in the US to protest the war in Syria (where Jewish State has been arming and supporting ISIS and White Helmets) and to protest the rise of neo-Nazism in Ukraine?
    The rise of neo-Nazism accelerated dramatically after US ziocons had conducted a successful regime change in Kiev n 2014 and installed a Jewish Prime Minister Groysman in 2016.
    Why has not the Jewish Community demanded the excommunication of Nuland-Kagan and those scoundrels in the Israeli government who approved the supply of Israeli weaponry to Ukrainian neo-Nazis? https://therealnews.com/stories/israel-is-arming-ukraines-blatantly-neo-nazi-militia-the-azov-battalion
    The Jewish activists were quick to destroy the life and career of honorable Helen Thomas, but the same activists and nazi-hunters have been invisible and mute in response to zionists’ ignominious actions in Ukraine, Syria, and Gaza Ghetto.
    Close the holocaust museums already.

  686. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jsm

    but the majority of those defined as Jews by the Unz criterion of last name have little if any connection with the Jewish religion, culture or racial self-obsession.

    Prove it.

    Well, there’s Ron Unz, for a start.

    • Replies: @jsm
  687. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Balls. Just three, including that one. But what do I care what some pompous, pontifical, anonymous ass has to say.

    Enough to keep on making yourself look like a fool? What you care about is under your control, and nobody else’s. So if you don’t like people laughing when you act like a crackpot, take a deep breath and control it.

    But what your comments and those of others reveal is how much Unz’s crackpot chorus of anti-Semites are upset when their empty drivel about Jews as a collective is challenged.

    You should really do a search for “projection” before you deliver retorts like these; it certainly will occur to people.

    But I applaud #682 as you show the beginnings of a sense of humor. Keep it up and you will be back to normal in no time!

  688. cassandra says:
    @Seraphim

    Thanks, and ouch! Disease of Islam? While I tend to concur, I find I have to restrain my own hyperbole to have any hope of holding onto what little objectivity I still possess on this subject. Maybe you’re stronger intellectually.

    Anyway, if I can pick your brain for advice:

    1. Can you compare Ibrahim’s works with similarly-inclined Robert Spencer’s (of jihadwatch)? They seem to cover similar territory.

    2. At the moment, I’m going through Razib Khan’s review articles on this (Unz) site, to find something specific: I’m especially interested in the split of Mediterranean basin civilization into Northern and Southern halves. Bill Warner blames that on Islam, and I’d like to find out more precisely what actually happened. If you’ve read anything that covers that in detail, I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  689. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Heros

    You said nothing, you addressed nothing, you just spewed the usual jew deflections and misdirections.

    I called You2 a Sour Prat or some such thing, which was no misdirection.

    But in fact I thought I had indicated a key factor accounting for the conflict between Jews resident in the European world and their host populations. Here I will restate that point in the clearest terms I can muster:

    Anti-Semitism is a key factor in maintaining Jewish group solidarity — so far as Jews act as a group and so far as that group shows solidarity. That is why entities such as the ADL and B’nai Brith in Canada continually hoot and holler about the monstrous anti-Semitism of the people among whom they live. Moreover it is the only credible reason why there are so many instances of Jewish perpetrated fake anti-Semitism. e.g., the case of David Kadar

    Anti-Semitism promotes Jewish group solidarity in America and elsewhere in three ways:

    First, it offends decent well-meaning members of the host nation, providing emotional incentive for the adoption of anti-Semitic views;

    Second, it causes Jews to distrust their non-Jewish neighbors, inducing them to seek solidarity with other Jews;

    Third, the Jewish solidarity that anti-Semitism promotes, alienates non-Jews, thereby promoting distrust of Jews, providing further emotional incentive for the adoption of anti-Semitic views.

    Anti-Semitism is beneficial to the Jewish tribal elite, who not so subtly promote it. Because most anti-Semitism, such as yours, is largely driven by emotion, without any real historical or factual basis, it is easily exposed as sheer racial hatred, and can thus be condescendingly condemned, thereby intensifying the hate.

    So, yeah, if you don’t like the tribalistic ways of Jews, just keep blaming them for every bad thing that ever happened anywhere, and don’t let anyone forget that they probably drink Christian babies blood, and worship the Devil. The ADL will love you for it, while screaming to have you locked up.

    On the other hand, if you want to understand what is really going on, remember that most Jews in America do not maintain close, or even any, solidarity with organized Jewry, and are just ordinary folk, morally indistinguishable, perhaps, from yourself.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Anon
  690. renfro says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Obviously you are too dim to see that every defense you make for Jews is the same old….’its the anti Semite’s fault for Jews being the way they are”.

    We have all seen and heard this ‘jews are innocent of everything’ 6 million times.

    BORING HASBARA AND JEWISH GATE KEEPING.

    Whether you are a Jew or not you are a Jew…..one of the bad ones.

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @Heros
    , @CanSpeccy
  691. Heros says:
    @renfro

    Yup, it always the same lies, disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda.

    Bla, bla, bla hey stupid goyim, lets you and that stupid goyim fight over the definition of “good jew” bla bla bla.

    Here is just a taste of the most recent misinformation spewing from their propaganda organs:

    Calling Israel racist is not anti-Semitism insist international Jewish coalition

    “Forty Jewish organisations from around the world have issued a joint statement dispelling the notion that calling Israel a racist country is anti-Sematic. The group denounced sections of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism saying that it stifles criticism of Israel with false accusations of racism against Jews.”

    Fucking kikes. 40 organisations? They must all be “good jews”. Why don’t these organizations explain how concerned they are about Ursula Haverbeck and Monika Schaefer.

    200 rabbis call out LGBT movement for using ‘terror’ tactics to promote lifestyle contrary to Torah

    “They accused LGBT groups of using “aggressive terror accompanied by non-stop media brainwashing,” in attempts to turn “perverts into heroes.””

    Fucking kikes. After destroying Christian families and the sanctity of their marriages jews are upset when Tel Aviv eclipses the San Frangomorrah that jewish cultural marxists created.

    Netanyahu: Hitler Didn’t Want to Exterminate the Jews

    Can we please just face it? The jews are gaslighting the goyim. Part of this gaslighting campaign is to have jews, and jew lovers, tell us that we need to be nice to “good jews”. They never talk about being nice to any other group, they are always obsessed with jews.

    If the jews posting at unz wanted to do one thing for every one else here, they could precisely define for us Christians exactly what do they think constitutes a “good jew”. Because if you can’t figure it out, how the can you keep spamming us expecting us to?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Them Guys
  692. Great article and one of the best I’ve ever read on the subject. A somewhat related topic is Ayn Rand. Her backstory has always been that she fled the Soviet Union in 1926 because it was so oppressive yet she was Jewish and was one of the first women allowed to attend university after the revolution, where she would surely have received a heavy Marxist indoctrination. I can’t imagine the Soviet Union was that bad of a place for her. I’ve always believed that she was sent by the Soviet government to promote ideas like her philosophy of extreme individualism to weaken social bonds in America. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that she ended up in the film industry as a writer shortly after arriving here. I’ve never been able to find any evidence of any of this other than something on a far right site years ago that was speculation along the same lines, but it would make an interesting American Pravda piece.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @T
  693. T says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Yes, and not the only one along those lines. On Nov 29, 1963 an episode of Route 66 entitled ‘I’m Here to Kill a King’ was pulled from the broadcast line up as it so closely paralleled the Kennedy assasination of a week earlier. People shown the episode (which is on You Tube) 25 years later were ‘stunned’ by what they saw.

    It was October,1963, when the cast and crew of Route 66 came to Niagara Falls to film “I’m Here to Kill A King.”

    The plot was about a gunman who came to Niagara Falls to assassinate a fictitious Arabian Potentate by gunning him down while he visited the falls…

    After Colangelo obtained a copy of the film, the Parks Department had it shown at the Niagara Falls Visitors Center for a brief time.

    Colangelo told the Reporter that people left the theater “chilled and stunned” by the haunting irony of how the plot of a TV show mirrored the true life details of the assassination of an American president.
    Colangelo named several similarities that are strikingly weird.

    The assassin, after being told that the Arab king wears body armor, says “I’m shooting him through the head.”

    One of the characters, a park employee who works at the Cave of the Winds, remarks to the assassin that “my father’s name was Lee,” drawing a parallel to JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.

    The motorcade scene, where the king waves to crowds from a limousine, bears resemblance to the Kennedy motorcade in Dallas.

    When the king lands in Niagara Falls, his chief of security is speaking with a federal security official and he advises him that things here are unsafe and that the king should go on to Dallas.

    Lastly, the assassin, when he is about to kill the king, is standing on a grassy knoll on Goat Island where today there is a paid parking lot.

    http://niagarafallsreporter.com/Stories/2013/Sep3/lostepisode.html

  694. Anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @Heros

    Can we please just face it? The jews are gaslighting the goyim.

    Worse. They were pre-emptively gaslighting the goyim for many, many years because they planned this in advance.

    This is what we’re dealing with. Individually, they’re less-smart than the white or east-Asian goyim but , their group strategy is sociopathic/psychopathic and… very efficient in the short-medium term.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  695. utu says:
    @Jean Ralphio

    I’ve always believed that she was sent by the Soviet government to promote ideas like her philosophy of extreme individualism to weaken social bonds in America.

    A similar thought also occurred to me. Unfortunately she succeeded. Generation after generation of young people gets infected by reading her novels that remain popular. One should also look close at those who are responsible for spread of libertarianism in America.

  696. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @renfro

    Obviously you are too dim to see that every defense you make for Jews …

    OK, OK. I’ll say it, I’ll say it:

    All Jews are scum.

    Happy now?

    And think about what that means.

    It means by Ron Unz’s definition of a Jew, that Ron Unz himself is scum and so is any other person with a Jewish last name, including Canada’s Conservative Party Leader, Andrew Scheer, son of Gerarda Therese (Enright), a nurse, and James Scheer, a deacon of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Ottawa.

    Makes a lot of sense. Not.

    Rather it seems to me you are doing the work that the leaders of the Jewish community want you to do. You are forcing those with Jewish roots to circle the wagons and defend themselves against the anti-Semites, which means following the lead of the scoundrels who fund the ADL, Bnai Brith and all the rest.

    But the fact that you won’t even acknowledge the argument suggest either stupidity or Zionist complicity.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @renfro
  697. T says:

    Regarding the ultimate origins of the Bolshevik Revolution, derived as it was from the French Revolution of 1789, it’s certainly multi-faceted. Specifically as to the more Anglo-Saxon aspect of this, the collectivist ‘Red’ Bolshevik revolutionary as well as the individualist American soldier resisting him (albeit in the over all scheme not too strenuously) immediately following WWI, each respectively as to their revolutions shared the same Founding Fathers in the form of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and apparently Ben Franklin, amongst some likely others.

    While it’s widely known T Jefferson authored the US Declaration of Independence (1776) it’s much less widely known he was also a priciple author (with two others) of the French Declaration of the Rights of Man (1789).

    During the 1780′s Ben Franklin apparently as well along with Jefferson was heavily involved in constructing the ideological framework that would evolve into the nascent ‘Red Republicanism’ of the French Revolution. According to the writer Fon Belcher (a distant relation of Jonathan Belcher, a quite prominent royal governor as well as first ‘native born’ British colonial Freemason in North America):

    first Franklin and then Jefferson went on missions to France where they served as nuclei around which formed a latticework of interrelated or interconnected French revolutionary leaders

    However, unknown to Louis XVI, creation of the United States was only a prelude to a chain reaction that resulted in a new French polity. Franklin and the ideological example of the American Revolution simultaneously prepared the substrate for the French Revolution that ultimately overthrew Louis XVI and crystallized into a sister republic. As soon as America gained her independence from Great Britain (with substantial French assistance), first Franklin and then Jefferson went on missions to France where they served as nuclei around which formed a latticework of interrelated or interconnected French revolutionary leaders, one of whom was Marie Joseph Paul Ives Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, who, after fighting in the American Revolution, imported revolutionary ideology into his native France under Jefferson’s guidance and inspiration. Products of the European Enlightenment, Franklin and Jefferson were station masters of France’s American depot, as Lafayette was an agent of the French central station trained on the American revolutionary training ground. Seeding the revolutionary cloud was not a one-sided French venture, however. On the contrary: the seedtime of the French Revolution was during Benjamin Franklin’s ministry to France–and that American was the seed-planter.’

    Thomas Paine wrote ‘Common Sense’ for the 1776 Revolution and for the French Revolution would write ‘The Rights of Man’ (1791) and serve in the French Convention.

    One of the Founding Fathers of the United States, he authored the two most influential pamphlets at the start of the American Revolution and inspired the rebels in 1776 to declare independence from Britain…Paine fled to France in September [1792] where, rather immediately and despite not being able to speak French, he was elected to the French National Convention.

    During the first half of the 1790′s upon observing the slaughter taking place between the nascent Red Republican revolutionaries and the ‘White’ pro monarchists, etc, Jefferson had concluded that the French Revolution (and those like it that would follow, ie Red October in Russia) would directly result in the deaths of ‘millions and millions’. The French according to Jefferson were just not moral enough (‘virtuous’) to handle the revolution.

    With the 1776 and 1789 Revolutions and the latters nascent Red Republicanism, the template for the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution as well as the Cold War which followed between the USSR and the United States had already been set. Applying Occam’s Razor, from the begining this struggle between ‘left’ and ‘right’, Capitalist’s and Red, has been a faux, manipulated, and controlled Hegelian Dialectic much of its origin being in London with the objective being global empire.

    Jefferson concluded that the French people were not yet “virtuous” enough to accept a sudden republicanism after so many years of superstition and despotism and that Louis XVI could have been retained as a limited monarch, thus staving off “those enormities which demoralized the nations of the world, and destroyed, and is yet to destroy, millions and millions of its inhabitants.”

    From a March, 1794 US newspaper quoted and linked to below, words such as ‘defection’ and ‘counter-revolution’, the terminology of the Cold War, were already making their appearance in the media of the day in regards to the ‘Red’ French Revolution.

    The defection of Marseilles soon produced that of Lyons. This important city became the central point of the counter revolution in the South…

    https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/french-revolution

    http://www.belcherfoundation.org/trilateral_center.htm

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_the_Man_and_of_the_Citizen_of_1789

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine

  698. Them Guys says:
    @Heros

    [It would be much better if your comments made a greater attempt at proper capitalization, punctuation, and good diction, or at least weren't so extremely long and rambling.]

    Heros: Thanks for posting such well stated examples that expose these fanatical knee jerk reactionaries. Who are always posed and ready freddy, to Pounce upon any and all of the, perhaps 1 of every 500 non jewish goy gentile person’s that are jewized up. One would think that the fact that most naysayers and instantaneous ready freddy unquestionable jew defenders, typically only and always pounce and jump at the chance to defend jews only, with some of them also doing likewise to arise and defend negro wrongs via blame whiteys. Yet remain silent when anybody else of another ethnic or racial group, Especially one of their very Own White’s, really does need defending.

    Should be self evident to these jew defenders of the fact of how badly they and everybody has been in a constant state of severe brainwashing from birth to death regardless how long they remain alive. It must never dawn on these defenders of jews, to self question as to why, being a Non jew, do they so defend jewry with a fury unlike anything else that they subscribe to. It must never occur to them to ask, Why do I do this? And do so Mainly only for jews benefit.

    [MORE]

    Seeking out Truth and exposing wrongs done by jews, that is Honorable to do. While unquestionable defense of jews, and twisting it around to Blame goys for jewish faults, is wrong and plain stupid to do. Especially when done by a non jew eh.

    Various others who do similar defense of other issues, such as antigun clowns, or man created global warming idiots, many at least have decided as adults to join some org or group and begin defending their positions. Positions which can and have been again and again well proven entirely wrong. Like how with antigun loons, for every insane and wrong factually claim they make and believe in, has been proven false and wrong with aprox. 40 or 50 separate facts that totally refute those wrong claims…However, even though as wrong and idiotic as can be with that antigun group members, they, most of them, have not been life long brainwashed into their stance or beliefs. Rather most have become that way due to some shock to their systems due to a school shooter perp gone crazy act….Then they read a few antigun articles and watch daily 24/7 tv news lib jewdeo talkers bash 2nd amendt and bash the nra org, so they join up with a group like handgun control aka sarah brady….Even Sarah Bady was never antigun until her husband Jim Brady was shot by error when prez Reagan was shot by a lone crazed perp….Then and only then did Sarah Brady begin her antigun stand and org.

    But ready freddy’s always must defend jews and every issue jewish, and act as if they Live for the chance to do so….100% Pure Brainwashing so Deeply imbeded in mind, and so often done to them, it becomes near impossible for them to admit to this fact. If they do admit to massive by design brainwashing, that is also admitting that Yes Jews are whos doing it to them!…Which in turn means, Yes we jewized up’s are correct, and such an admitting by brainwashed souls is akin to agreeing with Us jewized up’s. Therefore no such admitting of it is possible.

    It is an exact same as typical loony lefty lib dems, when you attempt to dislodge their minds from any of the many false beliefs they maintain and parrot like echo chambers once Marxist lefty thought becomes their Normal way….Nothing really is or has been “Normal” about it. But just try to convince any such lefty libs of that fact.

    I consider the non jewish gentile defenders, who always without question arise to defend jews no matter what, nor how much opposite fact or proof has been provided them to counter it, even worse than most loony lefty lib dems, that are so off the hook brainwashed they would be a huge laugh if not for it all being such a serious threat to folks who do get it, and folks that are jewized up.

    When a person finds that they pounce at every chance to defend jews and jew issues, and have done so as long as they can remember doing it, that alone should be clue number one as to just how badly brainwashed they are. Yet it seems to never enter their minds eh…Minds working at warp speed to defend jews, No Matter What a jew or jew’s did or do or Plan on doing wrong and evil bad.

    Like You stated…Always same old nonsense that jews only act like a jewy jew due to WE non jew goyim gentiles, and whatever WE say or complain of or expose of jewrys bads and wrongs done.

    Sure has the same ring tone as how Whitey keeps getting Blamed always, for everything done wrong by African blacks eh…No Matter What blacks do wrong, or evil, or fuck up everything African blacks get their hands on, matters none…Just Blame White’s. And when Whites refute every single claim and falsehood used by defenders, and defenders run out of claims to make for Blame Whitey…No problem, just Make up and Invent a boat load of New false issues and claims!

    No matter What jewry did or does wrong, Just Blame Goys and especially White and Christian Goys for jewrys bads….We/ME/YOU Goyim Gentiles Cause and Create bad jews just by being alive and existing!…..Jews=100% Innocent and Good…..You Goys are Not!

    And if No gentiles existed at all any place, then of course every jew would morph into a perfect angelic being… right…..Well, that’s what it seems those jew defender goys wish was true eh.

  699. jsm says:
    @CanSpeccy

    He’s a start. There’s one. Continue.

    Gimme all ya got.

    I’ll wait.

    You say the majority of ordinary Jews are like Ron, ok, coming up with a couple dozen more reasonably-well-known writers who are clearly America-First, as opposed to Israel-First America way down on the list, shouldn’t be hard.

    • Replies: @Malla
  700. Them Guys says:
    @Anonymous

    [If you want your extremely long, rambling, and totally off-topic comments published, you will need to make the effort to improve your capitalization, punctuation, and diction. Otherwise, maybe you would be happier at a different website.]

    Indeed, and just picture if you could wave a magic wand, and cause most of entire population of american European Whites, to, beginning tomorrow, Throw off and toss away every prior belief in being accountable, being honest, never screwing over others and non whites, and basically throwing away what has been the overwhelming majority factors of Christian induced belief in such positive and good traits as practiced by euro whites for a very long time now.

    [MORE]

    Say for example, euro whites after throwing away all of that former good trait practices, fast adopted every perverted and wrong or evil thought/idea/teaching of the jewish Talmud books.

    Ie: European Whites in America, as a whole group, would then daily practice a life style of Every Lie-Theft-Killing-and take advantage of all other non whites is Now 100% Okay, and No whites can nor should ever be prosecuted or even charged for actions of that nature…As Long as whatever done, was only always done To a Non Euro White, Out group member of society and the nations peoples.

    What ever whitey does to non whiteys is okay and fine and Lauded as an extreme virtue, and deserving of High Praise from all out group members of society. And all others who Fail to agree with whatever euro whites do, regardless of which non whites get harmed etc…Will get bashed and extremely hounded for ever, since euro whites will also now practice a life long Revenge minded attitude and a belief that, once a non white harms or robs or lies to a white person, there can never ever be any form of forgiveness Period. Euro Whiteys will Hunt them down like a Nazi camp german worker, and demand justice for whites even if the events done happened 4000 yrs ago.

    No forgiveness Ever, and Never ending persecution of all non euro white americans who Dare do any wrongs to whites….Just like a typical jewish attitude eh.

    In less than a week of such new standards by whiteys, every jew and black and out group member in america would scream bloody murder and if no fed gov actions halted it, the others would litterally Burn down entire nation before week #2 ended.

    Yet when done by jews, oh thats an entire different thing folks! they has a religious right in usa so its okay folks…..What about older Hawaian religious practices and beliefs of tossing a 14 yr old virgin female teen into a smoking red hot lava erupting volcano, to subdue the volcano goodess and she will cease lava from erupting all over the village below…Can we allow that to resume too based on BOR 1st amednt religious rights?

  701. @CanSpeccy

    At least f*ck up Jews do not blame their problems on non-Jews.

    Ron Jeremy is not claiming that a Swedish-American named Hugh Hefner forced him to become a porn star because Playboy was a Swedish-American plot to destroy Jews.

    Jewish drug addicts down on Hunt’s Point like Amy Winehouse are not blaming their situation on rednecks from some ROADHOUSE-type town.

    Andrew Dice Clay is not claiming that his career went down the tubes because Irish-Catholics in Hollywood like Mel Gibson harbored anti-Semitic feelings.

    Redoubted Hollywood sluts like Sarah Silverman are not complaining of their sexual exploitation by Kimmel and other Irish-American power-players in Hollywood-presumably when they go out to Hollywood to be comediennes and hit the Playboy mansion they know what will happen in the grotto.

    To read a bunch of Trashnationalists go on and on about the odd Jewish gangster of the 1920′s or the three serial killers-Rifkin, Glatman, Berkowitz-who happened to be Jewish is laughable.

    A few Russian Jewish mafia are a joke compared to the street crime of MS-13 or Crips.

  702. Why would the forces that destroy Christian families not destroy Jewish families as well?

  703. T says:
    @Jean Ralphio

    While I’m not much into Ayn Rand’s philosophy (seems a bit extreme) the artificial hyper-individualism you describe has been pushed regarding the US going way back. Seems the already existing organic individualism (whilst still retaining peoplehood) of the original English colonists was exploited and turned into the faux extreme version we see now. I see it as part of a false and manipulated Hegelian dialectic that’s been being played between the 1776 Revolution and the 1789 ‘Red’ French Revolution for over 200 years, the latter with its equally artificial and extreme collectivism.

    The below quotes are from The New Rome by Theodore Poesche and Charles Goepp published in 1853. The remarkable book is a sort of geopolitical future history of the world with an emphasis on the US/UK bloc, the New Rome.

    When the dominion of nationality is crushed, and the sovereignty of the individual is attained, everywhere and everyhow, the missions of the revolution and of America will both be accomplished

    pg 70 – 71

    It is the duty of the American party to combat all European traditions which are incompatible with Americanism; but, above all, that of nationality. To vindicate individualism against nationality, is the office of America. This is, at the same time, the whole force and scope of the revolution; thus, the revolution which arose in and with America, must for ever return to it; and America, which began in revolution, must live in it, and end with it. When the dominion of nationality is crushed, and the sovereignty of the individual is attained, everywhere and everyhow, the missions of the revolution and of America will both be accomplished.

    And on pg 37 – 38 can be found this…

    ‘…the absolute and indefea-
    sible sovereignty of the individual is the all-engrossing principle of American polity.’

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

    https://archive.org/details/politicalprophec00goeb

    • Replies: @Jean Ralphio
  704. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Well, I am back stateside and just about an hour into reading through Ron’s recent tomes on the greatness of Jews, their religion and culture. [cue: laughter]

    It appears he has managed to evoke a depth of slow-wittedness, hitherto unseen, even on these pages, widely famed by now, for their dependably bilious antisemitism.

    I see CanSpeccy tearing up the arguments of the little men [and of one little comrade, known for her fine hormonal lather]. He uses incisive logic. And some rather colourful descriptions for his antagonists; descriptions, I should heartily endorse, when faced with a similar display of vacuous prejudice.

    I see the Rooter-tooter; busily basking in self-glorification, valiant in his digital defence of Mother Earth’s downtrodden; poor creatures, who would be best-served catching a whiff of his true sulphur.

    So, here follows a small sample of Rooter’s attitudes toward Jews. Oh!! Does he just make a distinction between those he calls ‘the supremacists’ and ‘other Jews.’ !!! A paragon virtue, our Rooter.

    I think it will suffice as an example to cut through the utter venality of the antagonists of CanSpeccy, and, by extension, the civilised world.

    and that goes straight to the heart of this thread, why is there resentment for Jews?

    which begs the question… why must Jews create so much hatred and hostility?

    they are the most well-off tribe on the planet, enjoying unprecedented wealth and power. Why must they do all they can to destroy all the lands who lavish all this privilege upon them?

    and the answer seems to be that they are never satisfied simply with lording it over other people. They have an inviolate, genetic imperative to see the other people suffer, to see them humiliated and depraved and crushed underneath a Jewish boot.

    Which creates resentment and ‘anti-Semitism. Duh.

    but why is that need there? Is it religious, with the OT calls to genocide every other nation around?

    or is it in part biological, and just as Eskimos are uniquely suited to cold temperatures, so too are Jews coded for avarice, treachery and cruelty?

    How else can we interpret what we all witness in Gaza and Hebron? If not gratuitous cruelty, for cruelty’s sake? Even as it brings down opprobrium upon the Jews of the world, and Israel in particular, they still seem myopically incapable of self-reflection.

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-crash-course-on-the-true-causes-of-anti-semitism/#comment-2026552

    Self-reflection indeed! Start practising it Rooter.

    • Replies: @Anon
  705. Sam Shama says:
    @CanSpeccy

    But the fact that you won’t even acknowledge the argument suggest either stupidity or Zionist complicity.

    It’s not likely the latter; Zionists have standards :-)

  706. Seraphim says:
    @cassandra

    I will take it in reverse order.

    The thesis that the Mediterranean basin civilization split into Northern and Southern halves as an effect of the onslaught of Islam was proposed by the great Belgian historian Henri Pirenne in his book ‘Medieval Cities: Their Origins and the Revival of Trade’ (1927), and in a essay published posthumously in 1937 ‘Mohammed and Charlemagne’. In a nutshell it goes like that:
    “”Without Islam, the Frankish Empire would probably never have existed, and Charlemagne, without Muhammad, would be inconceivable.”
    That is, he rejected the notion that barbarian invasions in the 4th and 5th centuries caused the collapse of the Roman Empire. Instead, the Muslim conquest of north Africa made the Mediterranean a barrier, cutting western Europe off from the east, enabling the Carolingians, especially Charlemagne, to create a new, distinctly western form of government”. (Wikipedia)
    It was not received well by subsequent historians, but despite adjustments due to new discoveries, it lost none of its validity. But it has nothing to do with what I perceive being a projection of the American obsession with race (‘Whites’ vs Blacks)on European history.

    Raymond Ibrahim is a native Arabian speaker and a specialist in Arabic languages. He is a graduate of Georgetown University’s Center for Contemporary Arab Studies and studied toward a PhD in medieval Islamic history at Catholic University.
    He is one of the few who can talk about the Koran and Hadiths knowingly. Usually Muslim propagandists ward off any criticism of Islam with the mantra that non-Muslims misinterpreting it because they don’t speak Arabic (and they don’t understand the hidden subtleties of the language). He is a Coptic Christian and a specialist in the history of the relations between Christians and Muslims in the Middle East. In addition he is documenting cases of Muslim persecutions against Christian all over the world (see his ‘Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’s New War on Christians’, 2013) updating them constantly on his blog.

    Robert Spencer does not seem to have the same depth of knowledge of Arabic, although I can’t pronounce myself on the matter (as I said this is the standard accusation brought by the defenders of Islam). Also he made hazardous historical affirmations like “Did Muhammad Exist?’, which make him an easy target for Islamic ‘scholars’.
    Although I can’t vouch for it, my impression is that Ibrahim is largely ignored by Muslims, which is a sign that they can’t dismiss his arguments. His critics are usually the western anti-’Islamophobia’ activists who peddle the mantra ‘the violence of “extremists” have nothing to do with Islam – the ‘religion of peace’.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @cassandra
  707. @T

    That’s interesting. Thanks

  708. pogohere says: • Website
    @Sean

    Roosevelt’s National Industrial Recovery Act (enacted 6/33) (https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?doc=66) was the deal organized by Wall Street to implement the plans that had been made by Bernard Baruch and Gerard Swope, the latter the head of General Electric, in the 1920s.

    The object was to waive all antitrust laws and permit trade associations of major corporations to set the federal regulatory trade rules while buying off labor by legalizing and protecting union organizing and requiring good faith bargaining under federal law (these rights were reinstated after the National Industrial Recovery Act was declared unconstitutional in May 1935 by the Supreme Court with the passage of the National Labor Relations Act, aka the Wagner Act, (enacted in 7/35) (https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=67) and Social Security etc. In other words, Wall Street got its way–it’s version of socialism–and the rest of us got what are now usually called “entitlements.” (See: http://rooseveltinstitute.org/chamber-and-ge-have-plan-restore-business-confidence-and-jobs-1931/ )

    Democrat Roosevelt was Wall Street’s candidate in 1932 after Hoover– who was the winning Republican candidate for president in 1928 against Al Smith–refused to implement the form of fascism (Hoover used the word fascism to describe this program in his autobiography) contemplated under The Swope Plan (https://www.garynorth.com/SwopePlan.pdf), consistent with Bernard Baruch–the national industrial czar under Wilson during World War1 –(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Industries_Board ) and his assistant Hugh Johnson’s (http://spartacus-educational.com/USARjohnson.htm)
    efforts and research in the 1920s. This research paved the way for the implementation of The Swope Plan by means of the NIRA in the 1930s.

    Roosevelt agreed to the plan when he ran in 1932 and Wall Street contributions flowed to Roosevelt, the Democrat. Yes, the New Deal was a Wall Street plan enacted under a Democratic Wall Street oligarch. And yes, that was after Wall Street financed both sides of the Russian Revolution and the fascists in Italy and Germany. But I digress.

    Baruch’s assistant Johnson became the head of the National Recovery Administration (NRA) under Roosevelt. Walter Teagle, the president of Standard Oil, Gerard Swope, the president of General Electric and Louis Kirstein, vice president of William Filene’s Sons of Boston (a big department store in Boston) became Johnson’s assistants administering the NRA–which in a coupla years was declared unconstitutional by The Supremes. Just a technicality.

    See: “Wall Street and F.D.R” (hard copy: “Wall Street and FDR: The True Story of How Franklin D. Roosevelt Colluded With Corporate America”
    Franklin Roosevelt as an agent of Wall Street financiers
    — by: Antony C. Sutton, 1975, source: Reformation.org

    http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=WallStFDR

  709. Heros says:

    All of a sudden it becomes clear, the clouds have parted and a shaft of divine skowledge has broken through to the stupid goyim. All these jews and philo-jews kvetching about “anti-semitism” on this thread are gaslighting the goyim like the rest of their collective. These jews here are certainly not “good jews”.

    “Why, why? Perhaps because you know to much… perhaps because Lenny would get control of your property”

    Jews and property theft, as old as the bible. Jews and gaslighting is probably older.

    Ron Unz puts together a very mild and milquetoasty post documenting the veracity of the Jewish centuries old blue print for the genocide millions of goyim, and how do the jews react? They squeal and kvetch “anti-semitism” at anyone who notices that jews possess this psychotic hatred for Christians that started after they crucified Christ. They even blame this little mossad jew-boy who was threating thousands synogogues with arson in 2017, on, get this, “anti-semitism”. In their eyes every problem on the planet is merely a derivative of anti-semitism, even down their ritual torture, blood letting and murder of Christian babies and infants throughout the ages.

    So the goyim are waking up, and the more they wake up, the more these jews here on Unz Review kvetch, spit, misdirect and lie.

    “If I ever meant anything to you, and I believe I did, Help me…”

    How fitting the Lenny not only looks like jew, but speaks with a Yid accent.

    [MORE]

    Here is a small selection of gaslighting comments on this thread by jews and philo-jews:

    679:

    But it is difficult when anti-Semites create a climate of fear and hatred

    650:

    There you go again. It’s always “they.” If Soros is a bad egg, or Adelson, or some porn merchant or Hollywood scumbag, then all Jews must be bad eggs.

    But the facts don’t support such broad-brush treatment of American Jews. However, all American Jews have their feelings, and insofar as you and just about everyone else engaged in this discussion hold all Jews responsible for the actions of some Jews, you help force Jews into a self-defensive collective.

    703:

    “Anti-Semitism is a key factor in maintaining Jewish group solidarity — so far as Jews act as a group and so far as that group shows solidarity. That is why entities such as the ADL and B’nai Brith in Canada continually hoot and holler about the monstrous anti-Semitism of the people among whom they live. Moreover it is the only credible reason why there are so many instances of Jewish perpetrated fake anti-Semitism. e.g., the case of David Kadar

    Anti-Semitism promotes Jewish group solidarity in America and elsewhere in three ways:

    First, it offends decent well-meaning members of the host nation, providing emotional incentive for the adoption of anti-Semitic views;

    Second, it causes Jews to distrust their non-Jewish neighbors, inducing them to seek solidarity with other Jews;

    Third, the Jewish solidarity that anti-Semitism promotes, alienates non-Jews, thereby promoting distrust of Jews, providing further emotional incentive for the adoption of anti-Semitic views.”

    718.

    It appears he has managed to evoke a depth of slow-wittedness, hitherto unseen, even on these pages, widely famed by now, for their dependably bilious antisemitism.

    I see CanSpeccy… [using] some rather colourful descriptions for his antagonists; descriptions, I should heartily endorse, when faced with a similar display of vacuous prejudice.

    None of these jews, jew lovers and jew grovellers want to talk about the Protocols, The International Jew, or the Judeo-Bolshevic ritual genocide of millions of white Europeans. To jews it is always 1945 and all goyim are anti-semites and therefore literally Hitler.

    • Agree: Kolo
    • Replies: @Heros
  710. Patricus says:
    @Sean

    The “heavy pressure” that caused the London Times to retract the Protocols was, as I understand, the research of one of the Time’s reporters published in 1922. He was based in Istanbul and he comprehensively debunked the Protocols, proving it was a fraud produced by Russian secret police. It was also plagiarized, to a large degree, from a publication earier in the century called Dialogues from Hell, a debate between Napolean and Machiavelli. Many passages are nearly word for word. The inmates of hell supposedly elaborated on how a society can be undermined via central banking and manipulation of the media, etc. (I have not yet found this publication).

    • Replies: @Heros
  711. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    It’s not likely the latter; Zionists have standards

    You can join us Christian Zionists; we are ignorant dupes with no standards.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  712. Heros says:
    @Patricus

    Move along stupid goyim, nothing to see here. The protocols have been deemed to be unkosher by the collective. Do not ask why, just move along and shut up.

    Speaking of “shut up”, has anyone else been following the latest revelations about (((Twitter)))?

    Well we have known for a long time that they have been working with the (((ADL))) and the (((SPLC))) to censor goyim who have unkosher thoughts.

    ADL and SPLC were formed through the centuries old requirement of jews to have some powerful organization to cover up thier ritual torture, blood letting and murder of Christian babies and children. We have to be honest here, ADL and SPLC, are the spawn of coverups of centuries of satanic murders. Covering up murders entails more murder, and the jews are specialists in this. But even more, they are specialists in satanic ritual murders, just ask the Tsar.

    The thing is, this jewish ritual murder of their opponenents not only shows no sign of letting up, it just keeps getting worse, and not only in Gaza and the placeholder countries of Eretz Israel:

    “Poison toothpaste, prisoners hypnotised to kill: How Mossad, Israel’s secret service, has become the world leader in assassins with 800 operations in the last decade

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6001335/How-Israels-secret-service-world-leader-assassins.html

    How many stupid goyim call these sadists “good jews”? But I digress.

    Anyway, Twitter employed the usual child sarcifice and pedophilia coverup specialists at the ADL and SPLC to help develop algorithms that were used to censor the speech of millions of “anti-semites”, but more importantly sway elections in favor of Israel firsters. It just makes me proud of all those “good jews” working for these jewish organisations, and Twitter too.

    “Matt Gates, Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows and Devin Nunes… that would be a hell of a coincidence”

    Notice how it was non-Neocon Republicans whose elections were rigged by jewish organizations. The question is, how many non-Neocon republicans didn’t make it into office due to the meddling of jewish supremacist organizations?

    • Replies: @Heros
  713. Heros says:
    @Heros

    Oh Sh*t. I forgot to discuss the most important part of these Twitter “Shadow Bans” of anti-semites and conservatives:

    Gaslighting. Thats right, “Shadow Ban” even sounds like a gaslighting technique.

    Sneaky jews (is there any other type) short circuit every thing that one of their innocent and unsuspecting targets writes. The target wastes phenomenal amounts of time in a progressive effort to get the same responses he got previously, before the Twitter Dolchstoss. Jews can’t tell you to your face, so they sneak around using Mossad like deception. The target cannot figure out why, he tries this and that, and nothing works. Of course, jewish gaslighting covers the entire spectrum, from mental to physical to blood draining. One example would be that jew calling in thousands of bomb threates to synogogues.

    Gaslighting by jews. Older than the bible.

    But we also have seen how the (((US Media))) and other arms of Zog have been gaslighting Trump. This is standard fare for anyone will to risk the opprobrium of anti-seminity. Just look at the jews on this thread, they have contributed nothing bit shrill cries of “anti-semite”.

    I think they want to get Unz shadowbanned by some internet service they control. It would integrate well with the gaslighting he is certainly undergoing after these last few articles.

  714. Heros says:
    @Heros

    718:

    “It appears he has managed to evoke a depth of slow-wittedness, hitherto unseen, even on these pages, widely famed by now, for their dependably bilious antisemitism.”

  715. Mike P says:
    @Seraphim

    Without Islam, the Frankish Empire would probably never have existed, and Charlemagne, without Muhammad, would be inconceivable.

    That’s unknowable and not very plausible. Charlemagne’s grandfather (Charles “the Hammer” Martell) fended of Islamic incursions into France, but by then the Frankish empire was already a few hundred years old. Charles Martell had already taken control of the empire before his victories against the Muslims. Although Charlemagne had some fights with them as well, his main focus was the conquest of the Saxons and later of the Lombards.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  716. geokat62 says:

    It appears he has managed to evoke a depth of slow-wittedness, hitherto unseen, even on these pages, widely famed by now, for their dependably bilious antisemitism.

    Speaking of “bilious antisemitism,” have you had a chance to read Dr. Dov Bechhofer’s (son of a Rabbi and a radiologist at a hospital in New York City ) defence* of it?

    I’ve had it in my head to write a little something called “A Jewish Defense of Anti-Semitism,” but it’s been slipping my mind. In short, the vocal majority of Jews act so irritatingly and display such reprehensible attitudes – publicly and privately – that I’d rather see a “tempered” anti-Semitism now than see Jewish perfidy continue without consequence until, as Johnny Cash might say, the man comes around. Because he will. As I frequently tell Jewish acquaintances, if there is another Holocaust, it will be entirely of their doing (I don’t get too into the genesis of the first one . . . I once tried, but mouths fell open and I was practically kicked out of the apartment). So, yes – I like to see (((them))) named and exposed where relevant. I would like to see a general boycott of Hollywood coupled with some Semitic realism. And I’d like to see the fanatical AIPAC supporters exposed as the dual nationalists that they are. Etc.

    *Needless to say, threatened with losing his livelihood, the good doctor has since disavowed these statements.

    P.S. For those that are interested, Greg Johnson has recently penned an article that argues the good doctor did nothing wrong.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/07/dov-bechhofer-did-nothing-wrong/

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  717. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    I’ve learnt a thing or two from those ‘ignorant dupes”.

  718. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    I think it will suffice as an example to cut through the utter venality of the antagonists of CanSpeccy, and, by extension, the civilised world.

    Esteemed Mr. Shama,

    Am I counted among those antagonists (and, therefore, either a member of the civilized world or of its enemies– the attachment is obscure)? On my part I don’t often read through “Rurik’s” posts, unfortunately, but as he is a commenter with a self-cultivated reputation for intemperance, against which I have come up several times myself, it does not surprise me in the least that he has come up occasionally with utter absurdities which I am sure he will qualify in his better mind.

    Now I hardly think I have been venal in this thread, that is, bribeable, cruel, selfish, or selling one’s services or power, but perhaps you think differently? I value your opinion, so I would like to defend myself if this charge is brought against me.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  719. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Can’t say that I know of this Dr Bechhofer. Which is to say I am not particularly interested in the find-a-Jew-that-criticises-Jews game. Doesn’t take much to find the type in NYC. Then again, that is one of the points CanSpeccy’s been making, hasn’t he? That there is no Jewish monolith; in thought, action, culture etc.

    The first article penned by Ron is a perfect example of what a Troll would do. He channels this fellow Shahak to level a whole host of ludicrous charges against Jews. He drops in the perfunctory “Most Jews probably do not even know much about the Talmud” line; as if that sanitises what follows. Why ludicrous you ask? Should be simple to understand. For example on the topic of human sacrifice: every religion had had its forays into that practice.

    From Egypt, Mesopotamia, ancient India, to the well-known Levantine sacrifices of progeny, the Graeco-Roman rituals including Spartan infant tossing into the seas, the list is as lengthy as there are peoples, their oral and recorded histories. Ever hear of the Medieval Catholics in Ireland, of Odran of Iona, who, like many others were sacrificed and buried under Churches?

    But Jews are different, aren’t they? Carrying a monolithic ancient tribal memory which compels them to drink Christian blood every Passover.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  720. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon

    I am hardly in any position to judge anyone, let alone fellow commenters when they write under Anon. The handle Anon does appear to collate for various Anons.

    I can only make inferences based on the history of what anyone writes. Which is precisely why one is able to classify Rurik’s “writings” as items composed in equals parts, of rants, malapropisms, barely concealed racism, antisemitism and, not to put too fine a point on it, self-promoting whimsical drama.

    What I can glean from your posts on this thread, you are an intelligent, but importantly, a normal person. More than I can say for many.

    • Replies: @Heros
  721. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:

    You might be interested:

    The late Otto Scott spent the last years of his life writing what he intended to be the definitive volume on Wilson. Alas, time ran out for Mr. Scott, but before that unhappy event when he was in his late 80s and still reasonably spry, he confessed to his dear friend of many years, the late Elizabeth Currier (founder of the estimable Comm on Monetary Research and Education), that he was defeated, “It’s too big for me now, I find it impossible to encompass all the evil that was that man.” I’ve never forgotten that quote, and your post brought it back to mind.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  722. geokat62 says:

    I am not particularly interested in the find-a-Jew-that-criticises-Jews game.

    I get the sense you’re a big fan of the Ostrich’s reputed approach to dealing with impending calamities… sticking one’s head in the sand.

    As you well know, this is not a case of finding-a-Jew that-criticises-Jews game. Need proof? Why after 20 years did a Jew finally attempt to write a rebuttal to Prof. MacDonald’s magnum opus, CofC? Why did another Jew, Madeleine Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová) decide to write a book, Fascism: A Warning?

    It’s because we’re approaching an historic tipping point. Just as, prior to WWII, fascism was a reaction to Bolshevism, what has, today, been falsely labeled the alt-right or white supremacism is a reaction to Cultural Marxism – i.e., The Lobby’s campaign to eradicate “virulent” or “bilious” antisemitism for good. It’s history repeating itself.

    The first article penned by Ron is a perfect example of what a Troll would do.

    I’m not particularly interested in the inner workings of a primitive religion. As you know, I am concerned with the here and now.

    While you may disagree with the orthodox Jewish radiologist from NYC, I think he is being 100% realistic. He knows that there is something brewing. He knows in his heart of hearts that The Lobby’s two big lies to protect diaspora Jewry are doing tremendous damage to the goyim host nation’s, both in the New World and the Old World. He senses that a backlash is approaching and he is crying out to his co-relionosts to stop before it’s too late.

    You, for some imponderable reason, think he’s wrong. I, a dumb goyim, think he’s right. The next few years should validate who is right and who is wrong.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  723. Heros says:
    @Sam Shama

    “I can only make inferences based on the history of what anyone writes. Which is precisely why one is able to classify Rurik’s “writings” as items composed in equals parts, of rants, malapropisms, barely concealed racism, antisemitism and, not to put too fine a point on it, self-promoting whimsical drama.

    What I can glean from your posts on this thread, you are an intelligent, but importantly, a normal person. More than I can say for many.”

    What I can glean from your posts on this thread is that you are are a pretentious snob, likely a gaslighting jew psychopath. I think Townsend was writing about you:

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  724. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    St Odran wasn’t sacrificed. He was a co founder of the first Christian monastery in Iona Scotland. He was the first monk to die in that new monastery. He died a natural death

    Early and medieval Christians Catholics did bury people under the floors of churches. It seems a disgusting and bizarre practice to us. They pried up the stone tiles and dug a grave in the dirt, and put the body in with quicklime for fast decomposition.

    Catholicism was definitely Roman. The Romans outlawed human sacrifice around 250 BC.

  725. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    The Tsar wouldn’t let “high finance” penetrate Mother Russia, so the Romanovs had to go. At the time, Russia was the most rapidly developing country in Europe, and Wall Street and American/European Jews wanted in on the action. Tsarist Russia has a long, long history with problematic jews inherited from the Polish partitions, esp. the third. It was a pricey struggle to get them out of the liquor/tavern/money-lending biz into “productive work.” Despite throwing tons of dough and privileges the locals didn’t have (land ownership) at them, Russia never did succeed in turning Jews into farmers. As world trade developed and expanded, so too did the Jews’ expectations of appropriating Russian wealth for their own use. Enter Mr. Schiff & Co. But it wasn’t simple anti-Semitism. Jews and Armenians (Orthodox Christians) represented the commercial classes, and the people were highly suspicious of both. Old Russian saying: What the Jew doesn’t think of, the Armenian does.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  726. mheiliger says:

    Not any old journalist, it was the scumbag Allen Dulles who exposed the Protocols as a “forgery”.

  727. j2 says:

    Thanks Ron, a very good article again. I still have to read the comments.

    About the Protocols, it looks like this: from the French Revolution of 1789 to the end of the Paris Commune 1871 revolutions in Europe and colonies were made by revolutionary Freemasonry and Carbonaries. This Freemasonry was originally called Illuminati, then Jacobins and finally known as Memphis and Mizraim. They lifted Napoleon III to power in 1848 and Maurice Joly described their methods in a polemical way in the Dialogues, from which much of the Protocols were taken.

    Around this time was born Communism, splitting from Freemasonry and adopting similar methods. When Memphis and Misraim lodges were united to the still active (but nor revolutionary) Memphis-Mizraim, documents were obtained by the renewed “revolutionary” Freemasonry, which included O.T.O., Theosophy, Martinism and the Golden Dawn. They were politically oriented, but not in favor of Communism. They still had the same anti-all-religions, one-world etc. ideas.

    These secret societies were fully aware of the Communist threat and the role of Jews in this threat. These circles wrote the Protocols in order to create anti-Semitism that would cause the Jews to leave to Palestine, as they saw Zionism as the best solution to the problem. The Thule Society can be connected to these circles through Sebottendorf and it was a part of the pre-Zionistic plan to counter the threat of Communism. (There was no revolutionary Mizraim any more, so it is not to warn of Mizraim. Papus, the head of Martinists, warned the Czar of the threat, which was very real.)

    Thus, Protocols is a “false” document, but it is not a hoax or antisemitic “canard”. (Intended to create antisemitism, but not a canard.) It in general presents the method of operation used by Mizraim and to a large extent applies to later Communists, though the authors of the Protocols did not have access to secret plans of Communists or “Jewish Elders” like Jacob Schiff. Here is a summary of my small study:

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/01/29/who-wrote-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion-when-and-why/

    Jacob Schiff was not only funding Russian revolutions, he was actively promoting Zionism, and got B’nai B’rith to work on Jewish immigration to Palestine through the USA (the Galveston plan). Thus, Schiff probably supported the effort of the Protocols to create anti-Semitism to advance Zionism, while he also supported Trotsky to kick down the Czar.

    • Replies: @utu
  728. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon

    I am interested. Any specific published work of Scott’s you’d care to recommend? I am quite familiar with CMRE’s research and its broader endeavours. Fine group of thinkers. Richard Timberlake, who is one of the founding members (?), I have a healthy respect for. He, along with Friedman exposed the disastrous Fed policy in triggering the Depression.

  729. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    The problem isn’t most Jews. It’s the professional Jews who run the thousands of Jewish organizations.

    One example is the Jewish war on Christmas using atheists and organizations like Freedom From Religion Foundation. First nativity scenes were banned and now the liberals and Jews want the very words Christmas and Easter banned.

    Jews have always thrived in Christian nations but want to destroy them.

    I saw on Drudge today that a swastika was found on an Indianna synagogue. That means the AIPAC/ Israeli bond fundraisers are coming to town soon.

    Judiasm is like any other organization. There’s the ordinary members and the leadership.

  730. j2 says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “I must add that, though WWI was set up by GB, France and the tsar, I never found evidence that jews were involved in the conspiracy.”

    WWI was still set up by Freemasons as 1) the war that ends all wars, 2) for destroying three monarchies (Germany, Russia, Austria), 3) raising the USA to a world power, 4) as a part of the pre-Zionistic plan (to get Palestine from Turkey to either Germany or England), but there were interests and longer term plans by financial backers of these Masons.

    • Replies: @Heros
  731. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I get the sense you’re a big fan of the Ostrich’s reputed approach to dealing with impending calamities… sticking one’s head in the sand.

    Perhaps, but I dismiss this notion of impending calamities. Ostrich eh? Head in the sand? Why, that ought to be far more preferable than sticking one’s head up one Kevin McDonald’s fundaments, shouldn’t it?

    So far as the nature of the world today, I reckon I’ve got a far better sense for it, than the run-of-the-mill internet agitbody contorting over ‘Jewish conspiracies’ for their sorry lots. You are likely not one yourself, but, do do, an interesting rendition of the perfect howl.

    Why did another Jew, Madeleine Albright (born Marie Jana Korbelová) decide to write a book, Fascism: A Warning?

    It’s because we’re approaching an historic tipping point. Just as, prior to WWII, fascism was a reaction to Bolshevism, what has, today, been falsely labeled the alt-right or white supremacism is a reaction to Cultural Marxism – i.e., The Lobby’s campaign to eradicate “virulent” or “bilious” antisemitism for good. It’s history repeating itself.

    Why did Albright write a book on Fascism? Perhaps she is old and tired? More likely she wants to sell books on a reliably bankable subject, is what I think. A tipping point for what exactly? Spell it out.

    While you may disagree with the orthodox Jewish radiologist from NYC, I think he is being 100% realistic. He knows that there is something brewing. He knows in his heart of hearts that The Lobby’s two big lies to protect diaspora Jewry are doing tremendous damage to the goyim host nation’s, both in the New World and the Old World. He senses that a backlash is approaching and he is crying out to his co-relionosts [sic] to stop before it’s too late.

    I don’t necessarily disagree with him in that people at ADL etc are piling it on a bit thick. If you wish to name names, no one’s stopping you, are they? A clairvoyant of sorts aren’t you? ["He knows in his heart of hearts"]. As far as that stupid phrase “host nation” is concerned, I have simple words for you: who are you to judge whether America is a host nation for Jews. It is my country, for which members of my family have bled, and it is not the bloody business of some Canadian to lecture me on American citizenship.

    The next few years should validate who is right and who is wrong.

    Yes, it will be a long sequence “the next few years”, during which the march of times is headed in a direction completely different from that which you fancy.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  732. Sam Shama says:
    @Heros

    Your choice of music pins you as a purveyor of self-destruction, psychedelic drugs and anarchy in general. Never liked The Who [before my generation] for precisely the foregoing reasons.

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @iffen
  733. geokat62 says:

    Why, that ought to be far more preferable than sticking one’s head up one Kevin McDonald’s fundaments, shouldn’t it?

    I trust you’re not referring to Hellenic stereotypes, again. It’s a myth, I tell you!

    You are likely not one yourself, but, do (sic) do, an interesting rendition of the perfect howl.

    Only time you may find me howling is when I see a striking modern day example of the goddess of beauty, Aphrodite.

    Why did Albright write a book on Fascism? Perhaps she is old and tired? More likely she wants to sell books on a reliably bankable subject, is what I think. A tipping point for what exactly? Spell it out.

    Either you’re in denial or you’re in dissembling mode. Given your 204 IQ, I put my money on the latter.

    I don’t necessarily disagree with him in that people at ADL etc are piling it on a bit thick.

    Hallelujah! Three years of exchanges with you and the first real concession. There is hope, after all.

    As far as that stupid phrase “host nation” is concerned, I have simple words for you: who are you to judge whether America is a host nation for Jews. It is my country, for which members of my family have bled, and it is not the bloody business of some Canadian to lecture me on American citizenship.

    Me? I’m just a dumb goy. I was speaking on the authority of Theodor Hertzl, the Jewish sage who suggested the only solution to antisemitism was for Jews to separate from The Dumb Goyim and live like normal people in a country of their own. I guess you disagree with Hetrzl? I guess you believe antisemitism against diaspora Jewry can be defeated by some other means. Don’t tell me you subscribe to the ADL’s tagline that Diversity Is Our Strength. I guess you’re a (covert?) proponent of the double whammy of mass immigration and miscegenation? That these are the secret ingredients that will stop antisemitism dead in its tracks?

    If you (clandestinely) are, this is the tipping point I was referring to. The Dumb Goyim are slowly realizing that these policies may benefit Diaspora Jewry but they are detrimental to their and their progeny’s interests. Once enough of them inevitably come to this realization, they will want to know who is responsible for promoting these deleterious policies. As sure as fascism was a reaction to Bolshevism, there will be a reaction to The Lobby’s policies.

    Yes, it will be a long sequence “the next few years”, during which the march of times is headed in a direction completely different from that which you fancy.

    I take it from your ability to dabble in equine breeding, you’re a very successful commodity trader. That being the case, I trust you rarely take a naked position. My unsolicited advice, hedge your bet.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  734. @annamaria

    Recent scientific tests have proved the alleged diary could not have been written before 1951. … Otto Frank should have been more careful in his choice of writing instruments.

    Complete rubbish, I’m afraid. The ballpoint story has been thoroughly debunked.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170517145133/http://www.annefrank.org/ImageVaultFiles/id_14671/cf_21/tenquestions_en.pdf

    • Replies: @annamaria
  735. Heros says:

    “Perhaps, but I dismiss this notion of impending calamities. Ostrich eh? Head in the sand? Why, that ought to be far more preferable than sticking one’s head up one Kevin McDonald’s fundaments, shouldn’t it?

    So far as the nature of the world today, I reckon I’ve got a far better sense for it, than the run-of-the-mill internet agitbody contorting over ‘Jewish conspiracies’ for their sorry lots. You are likely not one yourself, but, do do, an interesting rendition of the perfect howl.”

    Please spare us the P. G. Wodehouse style creative writing 101 verbal diarrhea. If you have something to say, just say it. We know its hard for members of the collective to talk straight when they have been lying since before they had Jesus crucified, but your fake snobby blather is just plain ridiculous.

  736. j2 says:
    @utu

    The ideas of the Protocols are Masonic and were developed from the ideals of Enlightenment towards a totalitarian capitalistic system in Napoleon III’s time by Mizraim lodges, who, as Maurice Joly says in the Dialogues, were evil men who had taken the ways of the Jews. They read Plato’s Republic and Machiavelli’s Prince. These men were mostly Catholic, but some were Jewish converts (Frankists). It is a destabilization plan by destroying the pillars of the society and infiltrating essential sectors, like education etc. Behind the Masons were financiers, mainly speculators, including Jewish, who wanted to replace the Old World Order by the New World Order. Communists studied the methods of Freemasons, as did all terrorist groups. Such steps like killing the old elite were copied from the French revolution. Though presented in a poor antisemitic way, the plan in the Protocols is a well-though working one.

    There are only some ways to take over a country. At the time this plan was concocted with its insights to destabilization Jews were still mostly in ghettos and shtetls and kings people. They were the smaller brothers who were to be moved to Palestine as there was no place for middleman class in the new world, so it is not they who made the master plan. Masons stopped at the end of the 19th century, though they still created the WWI and gave power to Bolsheviks, but this plan was used by Communists and is still used after Communism. It may now be run by some ethnic group, or maybe just by some banksters.

    It is just a plan to gain control over a modern society: take over media, finance, education, advisors, history writing, make personal cults, divert people to irrelevant issues, fund some terrorists, make false flag attacks,… Just combine all age old tricks from history and textbooks.

  737. Heros says:
    @j2

    “4) as a part of the pre-Zionistic plan (to get Palestine from Turkey to either Germany or England), but there were interests and longer term plans by financial backers of these Masons.”

    You are delving into the question of the relationship between Masons and Jews. After all these centuries, the origins of freemasonry are still unknown. As far as I can tell, it was through the illuminati that the Rothschilds got control of the main lodges like the Orient and the Scottish Rite, but I am always trying to discover more. Of course, the masons are all sworn to secrecy.

    Have you been following the Buzz Aldrin saga? Aldrin famously got his 33rd degree after the moon landings has come out and told an 8 year old that it was all fake:

    So it is no surprise that his children have now been pressured to have him declared insane:

    “Buzz Aldrin’s Children Present Mental Health Tests To Support Dementia Claim In Guardianship Dispute”

    https://www.inquisitr.com/5006109/buzz-aldrins-children-mental-health-tests-dementia-guardianship/

    Meanwhile, Russia is still insisting the moon landings were fake and demanding proof:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130017/Russian-official-demands-investigation-really-happened-moon-landing-original-footage-disappeared.html

    So the evidence of a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy just keeps gathering momentum. Comments?

    • Replies: @j2
    , @Mike P
  738. Heros says:
    @Sam Shama

    “pins you as a purveyor of self-destruction”

    Would that the same guilt by association that pins you as a jew for being a racist supremacists who helps cover up the murder and blood sacrifice of babies and small children?

    Townsend happened to write a great song about pretentious assholes like you, but of course a snob like you would look down your nose at it.

    If you can do better, why don’t you post a great piece by a jewish musician. How about one that exposes “holocaust deniers”. That would be a real laugh.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  739. annamaria says:
    @Sam Shama

    “Zionists have standards.” — Sure: “An Azov militiaman from an openly neo-Nazi group is holding an Israeli Tavor rifle: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-10/major-israeli-daily-our-government-arming-neo-nazis-ukraine

    The midget zionist state does not recognize the International standard (about which Israel has been squealing non-stop while extorting money from devastated Germany)
    “…the assertion “The actualization of the right of national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people” is equal to Nazi German “lebensraum” transliteration: “The actualization of the right of national self-determination in the state of Greater Germany from the Rhine to the Volga is unique to the Aryan German people to the exclusion of all untermenschen [subhumans] ”.

    “…while only 47% of the subjects of Apartheid Israel are Jewish as compared to 50% being Indigenous Palestinians, the racist Zionists have substituted a stolen Jewish name for Palestine, the ancient historical name for 3,000 years (in various forms) of the country continuously inhabited by the forebears of 14 million present-day Palestinians from the very dawn of agrarian civilization.” [What else could be expected from the petty imitators of the 19th century German Romantics?]

    “The Security Council, Reaffirming its relevant resolutions, including resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 446 (1979), 452 (1979), 465 (1980), 476 (1980), 478 (1980), 1397 (2002), 1515 (2003), and 1850 (2008), Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and reaffirming, inter alia, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force, Reaffirming the obligation of Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, and recalling the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice, Condemning all measures aimed at altering the demographic composition, character and status of the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, including, inter alia, the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes and displacement of Palestinian civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law and relevant resolutions.”

  740. annamaria says:
    @Sam Shama

    Listen to geocat62, Sam Shama. His words are not of hatred but of informed concern.
    Think Cassandra.
    Unlike the empty-headed and obnoxious zionists, Ron Unz cares about Jews at large.

  741. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Wot! You don’t appreciate Boris the Spider or Pinball Wizard?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  742. Like Schift’s role gone down the Memory Hole of official History.. As they say, the devil is in the detail, the officila record leaves unexplained the US condescence with Trosky departing from US, and even more awkward, the role of the British in first detaining him in Canada and then allowing him to carry on with the journey… Not making much sense, unless, either Albion’s policy inspired by nursery rimes “♪ 1,2,3,4,5 ♪ once I got a fish alive..♪” or greater scheme on the cards… A hidden had pulling the strings?

  743. annamaria says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Be afraid:

    The German Federal Criminal Investigation Bureau (BKA) examined the [Frank] diary and concluded that portions of the work were written with a ball pen, only available from 1951.
    Anne Frank’s father Otto Frank refused to allow any interested party to inspect the diary in spite of ‘growing charges of fraud’.
    Writer Meyer Levin won a suit in the New York Supreme Court against Otto Frank, Anne’s father, for 50 000 dollars as an “honorarium for his work” on the diary’ (The Zionist Connection p.819).

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  744. Tom in GA says:

    Thank you Mr Unz for addressing the Jewish conspiratorial aspect of past and “present” history. As a history PhD student, when so many prominent leaders of the neoconservative movement in the last 4 decades are Jewish and books are being published which demonstrate the disproportionate influence of the Jewish Lobby in American foreign policy, it is important to address that which is hidden in plain sight. Kudos for broaching a subject which needs further historical examination and documentation. Heaven knows nothing else is off limits today; why should the accurate history of disproportionate Jewish influence in momentous international history be so.

  745. j2 says:
    @Heros

    At some point the Freemasonry conspiracy become Judeo-Masonic conspiracy, that is true. I cannot pinpoint the exact time, nor if it was Rothschild, but Nathan Mayer Rothschild was a Mason, so were some other of the family.

    About this moon landing conspiracy theory, I looked at it but did not find evidence that Americans had not landed to the moon. Some photos were edited and some data “accidentally” lost.

    The video clip is good, but the girl asks why didn’t nobody go there later, so he answers that we didn’t. That can be didn’t go there later, not didn’t go there at all.

    About Russian views I only remember some old joke that Russians went to moon. All of them? No, only two. So, what’s the big deal.

    But I am open to new information.

    • Replies: @Heros
  746. @Anon

    Mike Pompeo is playing the role of Louis Brandeis – Rabbi Stephen Wise – Samuel Untermeyer in ramping up economic war on Iran, in advance of a firestorm of other destabilizing acts of destruction of Iranian political leadership, culture, economy.

    (SEE Judea Declares War on Germany, March 24, 1933 As Jeff Gates has noted, the Zionist Criminal Gang really has a very limited repertoire.)

    Barbara Slavin appeared on C Span Washington Journal to voice her heartfelt (cough cough) concern that the Iranian PEOPLE were being harmed!! an act of CRUELTY !! being carried out by the TRUMP administration!!

    These evil acts carried out by TRUMP after Obama’s hard work in setting up Iran for “the most intrusive inspections ever!! to ensure that Iran was not building a nuclear bomb.

    Slavin was almost convincing, and managed to maintain an even-handed facade, until someone mentioned that the Saudis and Netanyahu were behind the attempt to destroy Iran. At that, Slavin deflected and demurred: “Iran IS a bad actor insofar as Iran supports the horrible Assad, Hamas, Hezbollah, and is involved in Yemen. ”

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?449036-3/washington-journal-news-headlines-viewer-calls&playEvent

  747. pogohere says: • Website
    @Caruthers

    STALIN’S WILLING EXECUTIONERS

    JEWS AS A HOSTILE ELITE IN THE USSR

    The Jewish Century

    Yuri Slezkine

    Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 2004 $29.95 (cloth) x + 438 pages

    Reviewed by Kevin MacDonald

    A persistent theme among critics of Jews—particularly those on the pre-World War II right—has been that the Bolshevik revolution was a Jewish revolution and that the Soviet Union was dominated by Jews. This theme appears in a wide range of writings, from Henry Ford’s International Jew, to published statements by a long list of British, French, and American political figures in the 1920s (Winston Churchill, Woodrow Wilson, and David Lloyd George), and, in its most extreme form, by Adolf Hitler, who wrote:

    “Now begins the last great revolution. By wresting political power for himself, the Jew casts off the few remaining shreds of disguise he still wears. The democratic plebeian Jew turns into the blood Jew and the tyrant of peoples. In a few years he will try to exterminate the national pillars of intelligence and, by robbing the peoples of their natural spiritual leadership, will make them ripe for the slavish lot of a permanent subjugation. The most terrible example of this is Russia.”

    This long tradition stands in sharp contradiction to the official view, promulgated by Jewish organizations and almost all contemporary historians, that Jews played no special role in Bolshevism and indeed were specifically victimized by it. Yuri Slezkine’s book provides a much needed resolution to these opposing perspectives. It is an intellectual tour de force, alternately muddled and brilliant, courageous and apologetic.

    http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/slezkinerev.pdf

    Beware: This review of Slezkine’s The Jewish Century requires the ability to think critically.

    Also, there is a virus warning when attempting to open the link above. I have consistently ignored the warning with no ill effect.

  748. Heros says:
    @j2

    Armstrong, Aldrin, all of them were/are masons.

    For me the Moon Landing Building 7 is the lunar rover.

    Sure, there are thousands of impossible circumstantial evidence that make it as easy to prove that the moon landing was staged as 9/11.

    But the lunar rover was when they jumped the shark. Musk and Tesla are in the minor leagues compared to Nasa and the “lunar landing”:

    Look at that rover, its almost as wide as the lander. How heavy are its batteries? Nasa claimed:

    “Since this is one of the later Apollo flights, you see, we also have to pack a dune buggy, otherwise known as a lunar rover. And the rovers, according to NASA, are a full ten feet long, just two feet less than the diameter of our craft. But not to worry – according to NASA, the rovers (pictured [above]) folded up to the size of a large suitcase. When released, they would just sort of magically unfold and snap into place, ready to roam the lunar terrain.”

    The entire narrative is patently absurd. Like Building 7 spontaneously collapsing. Where do the masons end and the jews begin?

    Dave McGowans book Wagging the Moondoggie:

    https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/

  749. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I was speaking on the authority of Theodor Hertzl, the Jewish sage who suggested the only solution to antisemitism was for Jews to separate from The Dumb Goyim and live like normal people in a country of their own. I guess you disagree with Hetrzl? I guess you believe antisemitism against diaspora Jewry can be defeated by some other means. Don’t tell me you subscribe to the ADL’s tagline that Diversity Is Our Strength. I guess you’re a (covert?) proponent of the double whammy of mass immigration and miscegenation? That these are the secret ingredients that will stop antisemitism dead in its tracks?

    Do you seriously expect me to take this blatantly loaded bait? No thanks. I’ll merely observe that Herzl had a vision, one which is still in the midst of development. Antisemitism in Europe, today, is different from the form in which it presents itself in America. In America, it is overwhelmingly a venting game played on the internet by frustrated crackpots. None of them possesses even the slightest iota of power to put their delusions into practice, anything that might amount to something. It is so for one simple reason: most Americans identify with the principles of the Judaeo-Christian doctrine. It is as I have often said, written into the core of American culture. No if and buts about it. Antisemites disagree, but no one cares for their opinion.

    this is the tipping point I was referring to. The Dumb Goyim are slowly realizing that these policies may benefit Diaspora Jewry but they are detrimental to their and their progeny’s interests.

    Gentiles, bright and otherwise, are the neighbours and friends of Jews in America. Intermarriage is at levels which have the rabbinate perplexed. What happens mostly in these interfaith marriages is that everyone ends up celebrating both Christmas and Hannukah, much to the chagrin of the “miscegenation” lunatics on online forums. Even the rabbis [at least the reform] are coming around, witnessing the swelling ranks of their membership. Are you people really that unobservant and uninformed? Do you not see Ivanka and Jared? I do not particularly like them for other reasons, but they perfectly define the prevailing state of affairs between Jews and Christians in America. I think there is hardly any comparison with the Germany of Weimar and its immediate aftermath. America is a prosperous nation in need of greater equality of opportunity [not outcomes], which will remedy the problems of economic inequality.

    Now I must close, leaving you appointed the unofficial ambassador-at-large for the interests of our progeny. Thou shalt be our saviour.

  750. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    I don’t know those numbers, but since it is you asking, I am going to give them a spin on Spotify. :-)

    Dead honest? I love Classical and Country [some Jazz, Sophie Milman a favourite]. In Country, I like a great many, from Tim McGraw, Urban, to the oldies like George Strait and of course, who doesn’t love Denver?

  751. Sam Shama says:
    @Heros

    A full-blown conspiracy lunatic I see [ #752 amongst others]. Even the Moon landings get the full treatment of your mental coriolis.

    Run along now.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  752. Anon[826] • Disclaimer says:

    A long article deserving a long reply. I will return.

  753. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Few of them know the truth depths of Straussian depravity that motivates the hard-core neocons.

    How can we go about coming to know this? How to go about understanding what “Straussianism” is?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  754. utu says:

    Talking about Jews is good.

    For more than 50 years, from the breaking of the Production Code in 1965 to the Irish abortion referendum of 2018, the Catholic Church has lost every single battle in the culture wars. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia took note of this in a recent speech, in which he identified the enemies of the moral and social order as “secularizing activists.” Sun Tzu once said if you don’t know who you are and who your enemy is, you will lose every battle. The record of the Church has proven Sun Tzu right. Now it’s time for a different approach. It’s time to break the Jew Taboo.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/1983166510/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=cultwars-20&linkId=d1114a98229f4b7cd35bc94d40fba31f

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @dfordoom
  755. utu says:
    @j2

    These circles wrote the Protocols in order to create anti-Semitism that would cause the Jews to leave to Palestine, as they saw Zionism as the best solution to the problem.

    I know why you like this idea because you also like the idea that Holocaust was purposefully instigated by Jews.

    But perhaps you should calm down and when writing about it state explicitly that this is your idea/hypothesis and state that is what you think instead of saying definitively stating “These circles wrote…” and then add that you have not an once of proof for it.

    • Replies: @j2
    , @Seraphim
  756. geokat62 says:

    You can join us Christian Zionists; we are ignorant dupes with no standards.

    First intelligent thing that has come out of the PEAbrain’s mouth since I started frequenting UR several years ago.

    And timely, too, as this recent RI article completely backs his statement up.

    Excerpts from American Evangelicals Have Been Hoodwinked Into a Big Lie About Israel and the Rapture


    One of the things I have come to understand about prophetic futurism is that EVERYTHING HINGES ON ISRAEL. That’s why prophecy preachers and dispensational Bible teachers are obsessed with modern Israel. To them, Israel is at the core of their understanding of prophecy. I will even dare to say that, to them, Christ is not the focus of prophecy; Israel is.

    This flagrant misinterpretation of Scripture (popularized by Scofield) has turned modern Israel into a god in the eyes of many Christians. Oh, they would never admit to committing the sin of idolatry with Israel, but in truth, that is exactly what many of them are doing.

    After much study on the subject, I am convinced that Cyrus Ingerson Scofield was an agent of the Rothschilds and that his reference Bible was deliberately used to blind Christians to what the true nature and purpose of the soon-to-be modern State of Israel was. And it worked—BIG TIME. To most Christians today, modern Israel is a “miracle of God”—a fulfillment of biblical prophecy—and the atheistic, Talmudic, Kabbalistic Jews who control the Zionist state are “God’s Chosen People.”

    As a result, America (thanks to seventy years of indoctrination by tens of thousands of pastors, radio and TV preachers, churches and Bible colleges and seminaries) has literally become a doormat (and puppet) for Israel.

    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/american-evangelicals-have-been-hoodwinked-big-lie-about-israel-and-rapture/ri24342

  757. Mike P says:
    @Heros

    Interesting that Buzz Aldrin is coming out of the closet now …

    The reason why this preposterous story has been so strenuously defended, I think, is not just for the sake of NASA or the astronauts but because its collapse will severely damage the credibility of the U.S. government in general. If it is after all these years publicly acknowledged that the “wackadoodle conspeeracy theorists” have been right all along, what effect is that going to have on the 9/11 story? And if that story finally collapses, what is that going to mean for the CIA/zionist control of America? There is a whiff of real change in the air … and it’s about time, too.

  758. geokat62 says:

    Do you seriously expect me to take this blatantly loaded bait? No thanks.

    Why not? Ok, perhaps you’d be willing to answer these two simple questions:

    1. Do you agree with the ADL’s tagline that Diversity Is Our Strength?
    2. Do you agree with AIPAC that the GWOT is being waged to enhance the security of Westerners and not the security of the residents of the villa in the jungle?

    It is so for one simple reason: most Americans identify with the principles of the Judaeo-Christian doctrine

    There you go again, trying to hoodwink The Dumb Goyim. You know full well there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian doctrine. It is pure poppycock. This expression didn’t even exist until after WWII. It was coined to convince the xian Zionists to join forces with Zion against the Mohammedans.

    It is as I have often said, written into the core of American culture.

    Bullshit. The core principles of American culture were Western principles, which included the Christian doctrines, and not this bogus Judeo-Christian bologna.

    Intermarriage is at levels which have the rabbinate perplexed.

    While intermarriage rates are indeed high among Reform Jews, they are not with Conservative or Orthodox Jews. Here are my views on this recent phenomenon. Prior to the establishment of the Jewish state, intermarriage among Jews was virtually non-existent. After 1948, this changed. While diaspora Jewry have the Jewish state to ensure their people continue into perpetuity, the peoples of Western nations have no alternative. It is one and done. That’s why they are susceptible to being lulled into following Judah’s goat over the cliff into the demographic abyss.

    Are you people really that unobservant and uninformed? Do you not see Ivanka and Jared? I do not particularly like them for other reasons, but they perfectly define the prevailing state of affairs between Jews and Christians in America.

    See previous point about Juda’s goat.

    Now I must close, leaving you appointed the unofficial ambassador-at-large for the interests of our progeny. Thou shalt be our saviour.

    While the Jewish people have their saviours (prior PMs up to the current one), The Dumb Goyim are still waiting for theirs to arrive.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  759. geokat62 says:
    @Anonymous

    How can we go about coming to know this? How to go about understanding what “Straussianism” is?

    This should do it:

    other commenter: I’ve been thinking for a while that the US has been hijacked by people who are sophist in the mold of Thrasymachus and Callicles who rejected conventional morality.”

    geokat62: You’re one of the few who understands the philosophical roots of the neocon ideology. The father of neoconservatism is Leo Strauss who looked to the ancients, especially Plato and his concept of the Noble Lie, for inspiration. The fundamental tenet of this ideology is that “there is no rational foundation for morality… It’s all about benefiting others and oneself; there is no objective reason for doing so, only rewards and punishments in this life.”

    Here’s an excellent interview about Strauss – http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm

  760. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Who was the enemy of the Catholic Church that was not named?

  761. @Sam Shama

    Psychedelic drugs are not good for you, but don’t do the damage that cocaine and meth and heroin do.

    Most people use psychedelic drugs from say, 18-25. After that, they ease off them.

    It is mostly a college-age thing.

    I don’t know many of my college friends who are now in prison because they got hooked on LSD.

  762. j2 says:
    @utu

    to utu:
    But perhaps you should calm down and when writing about it state explicitly that this is your idea/hypothesis and state that is what you think instead of saying definitively stating “These circles wrote…” and then add that you have not an once of proof for it.”

    Sure, I can state it and I am always calm. It is my idea, though it has been proposed by others before me. It was not my working hypothesis during the study, it was my conclusion from the study.
    There are several ounces of proof of it, though it is not a widely accepted consensus view
    - The Protocols first appeared in Theosophic circles, the Juliana Glinka part seems true
    - The Protocols were written based on documents criticizing Mizraim in including Joly’s book
    - Allan Dulles found the book of Joly from which Ohrana had plagiarized it (unbelievable, so check Dulles’ connections, they may be connected to the writers of the Protocols)
    Therefore the Protocols were most probably written by these circles with the explicit aim of creating antisemitism, but as these Masonic circles were prosemitic, the goal of antisemitism was moving the Jews to Palestine. The Protocols itself state that they are the source of all antisemitism and it is necessary for the plan.
    - This aim is clearly expressed in Waite’s Holy Kabbalah (a high Rosicrucian, just from those circles), where he states that the meaning of Kabbalah to Jews is to be prepared for a long trip home.
    - The pro-Zionism of Masonry is also shown by Mordecai Noah and Adolphe Cremieux and the Alliance founding farming schools.
    While everything that one writes is always what one thinks correct, so it is what you think, not necessarily the truth of the issue, I feel confident enough to state that in this case what I think is what very likely was the case. The alternative theories: that Ohrana wrote is, that some antisemite wrote it for money or as a hoax (Eco’s Prague cemetery theory), that it is original Jewish, are all implausible.

    Just to correct you here:
    “I know why you like this idea because you also like the idea that Holocaust was purposefully instigated by Jews.”
    I have stated that it was purposefully instigated by pre-Zionists. These pre-Zionists included Freemasons, some Christian Zionists, some Jewish millionaires, some Jewish Kabbalists, some Jewish Communists, but the first group was the largest and the only one that can be connected to the Nazi party: Mizraim+theosophy..Sebottendorf..Thule…Nazis. Thus, it is incorrect to say “the Jews”. Indeed, the Jews were against moving to Palestine as the Messiah had not come. I like the idea because I find it the most plausible.

    • Replies: @utu
  763. cassandra says:
    @Seraphim

    I looked into Ibrahim at your suggestion. I’ve viewed him in a few debates, and I’m embarrassed to confess I’d been unimpressed his presence in what are usually filibusters and food-fights, in part because his comments were intelligent and sober. (Less-credentialed or not, Spencer’s more assertive personality and quick wit serve him better in this milieu). Ibrahim does much better in talks and interviews, and I’m adding him to my book list. Thanks for bringing him to my attention.

    Your mention of Pirenne led me to order a book “Mohammed and Charlemagne: Revisited” by Emmett Scott (2012) that discusses ideas of both Pirenne and his critics. I hope it will get me acquainted with the general scope of this issue.

    In Colin McEvedy’s Atlases of Ancient and Medieval History, he cited cultural interaction as the criterion for the geographical scope of his maps. This included not only Europe, but the entire Mediterranean basin and Indus River to the east.

    I wondered afterward how we came to regard Mediterranean culture not unified as in ancient times, but split into northern European and southern African halves. Until recently, I assigned this to natural human bias, perhaps Euro- or Anglo-centrism. But Pirenne’s (and Warner’s) description of the impact of Islam offers another explanation.

    That is Islamic aggression. I understand that Pirenne argued that one impact of the spread of Islam across North Africa was to change sea traffic out of Africa toward Europe from traders to raiders. Piracy went on for some 1100 years before the concerted campaigns of the Barbary Wars finally ended it. It’s hard to see how the North Mediterranean community would have been able to come to terms with a culture so incorrigibly hostile.

    This thread has made me much more aware of the broader studies on the influence of Islam on European history. There, interest seems largely focused on how Europe adjusted to events on its periphery, to which Africa was now assigned. But it seems to me that the larger story is how the prolific Mediterranean basin culture became divided as a result of the amputation of northern Africa. From this point of view, a far greater catastrophe occurred than a relatively commonplace changing of the guard represented by the fall of the Roman Empire and rearrangement of continental relations. Those were mere symptoms of a greater cataclysm.

  764. @Colin Wright

    “.. A crucial underlying cause of the First World War was Britain’s belief that only a preventative war could forestall a rising Germany, but I suspect that an important secondary cause was the parallel German notion that similar measures were necessary against a rising Russia. …”

    This is a very well written and insightful article, and what charms me additionally is the description of how the author experienced this ‘tear in the fabric of reality’ as he got to know about the background facts no history told us anything about. Namely, I had very similar feelings about it.

    But no wonder that the quotation above attracted the attention of us both, Mr. Wright. It is on that still very contentious theme, whodunit and started the WWI.

    I am slightly reserved on the order in this sentence of Mr. Unz here, because I hold his secondary cause for the primary one. Germany has brought itself into a blind alley by trying to reach the military supremacy over the array of European powers much stronger in the terms of the GDP and population. Germany started the armaments race in Europe long before the outbreak of the war.
    Seeing the Russians preparing for the general modernization of the armed forces in 1912, the German army chief Moltke demanded in Dec. 1912 already the war ASAP, and right then at best.
    The reasoning was simple – the Russians are going to be unbeatable by 1917, and they are going to do then what Germany had in mind all the time – attack when stronger!

    The Kaiser supported Moltke here, and first reason the war did not break out right then – was the British clear notice that they are not going to stay neutral. Would the British do that if they wanted a preventive war? Anyway, Moltke kept pestering the Kanzler Bethmann-Hollweg for the war ASAP many times after this Dec. 1912 session of the Imperial War Council.

    The second reason was the opposition of the navy – they wanted no war before the Kielkanal (connecting Baltic and North Sea south of Denmark) was finished. It was finished third week June, 1914. Ominous, isn’t it? And there are other reasons to suspect, Germans knew about Sarajevo event before it happened.

  765. Seraphim says:
    @Mike P

    I think you are in no doubt that the phrase of Pirenne was rhetorical. Charlemagne is at the end of a process of reconstruction of European civilization on more Germanic terms, in isolation from the Roman-Byzantine world due to the Islamic domination of the western Mediterranean. The Pirenne thesis is that there was a full century of decadence between the peak of the Merovingians and the emergence of the Carolingians, in the course of which many of the features of the ancient civilizations disappeared, while others were further elaborated; and that it was in this decadence that the Carolingian period had its origin.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  766. Mike P says:
    @Seraphim

    I think you are in no doubt that the phrase of Pirenne was rhetorical.

    Well, no, I was not, I took it pretty literally.

    Charlemagne is at the end of a process of reconstruction of European civilization on more Germanic terms …

    That notion strikes me as fanciful, or at least arbitrary. The Carolingian period of glory started with Charles Martell and ended with his grandson, Charlemagne. After that, both Germany and France descended into another long period of chaos and enfeeblement (though France had the worse of it) that in Germany ended only with Otto the Great, and in France only with Henry of Navarre.

  767. dfordoom says: • Website
    @utu

    the Catholic Church has lost every single battle in the culture wars. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia took note of this in a recent speech, in which he identified the enemies of the moral and social order as “secularizing activists.”

    The Catholic Church, like the mainstream Protestant churches, has been largely destroyed from within. The problem is that the “secularizing activists” have been inside the churches. They decided early in the 20th century that Christianity’s only hope of survival was to compromise with secularism. They thought that if they caved in to liberalism on every single issue then their churches would become hugely popular and would be packed with enthusiastic parishioners.

    What they got instead were empty churches, and their reaction to that was to decide that they simply hadn’t compromised enough.

    The truth is also that the secularisers in the churches were not only cowards, they also lacked any genuine belief in their own religion. They liked the idea of being religious but they could no longer bring themselves to actually believe.

    Sorry to disappoint you but it actually wasn’t the Jews. The reason Christians lost the culture war is that Christianity had rotted away from the inside and by the 1960s it no longer had the strength to put up a fight. In the 30s the Catholic Church took on Hollywood on moral issues and won a crushing victory. By the 1960s the Catholic Church that had won that victory no longer existed.

    Christians have to accept responsibility for their own failures. Christianity is, at this point in time, a failed religion and a dead religion. They did this to themselves. The Jews didn’t do it to them.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  768. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    It is important to note that one of the first critics of the Protocols as they appeared in the West, Lucien Wolff (an anti-Zionist) traced their origin to Goedsche’s ‘Prague Cemetery’, which was widely circulating in the ‘anti-semitic’ millieux of Europe along with Disraeli’s ‘Coningsby’. He added Gougenot des Mousseaux. The theme of the Jewish conspiracy to destroy the Christian society was in the air, due to their massive presence in the socialist movement and in the Masonry. He noticed that they have been added to the second edition of Nilus book ‘ ‘The Great in the Small: The Coming of the Anti-Christ and the Rule of Satan on Earth’ after the revolution of 1905. He did not know that they had first appeared in the St Petersburg newspaper Znamya (the Banner), a paper of the Black Hundreds, from 26 August to 7 September 1903. Their publisher was Pavel Krushevan (Pavel Cruşeveanu) a Bassarabian journalist, in the wake of the ‘famous’ pogrom of Kishinev (Chișinău) of 1903. Nobody took too seriously the story of their provenience (minutes taken at a Zionist Congress). Nilus republished his book in January 1917 under the title ‘ It Is Near, At the Door’.
    Wolff’s was a plausible surmise and probably the whole thing would have been died out. But the Jewish newspapers could not refrain to ‘demonstrate’ more than necessary, inventing a rocambolesque story, that of the chance discovery by a ‘Mr.X’ of the ‘Dialogue…’ of Joly, in Constantinople, where he bought it from a ‘Russian officer’ (Denikinist, of course) and at the first glance he ‘recognized’ the plagiarism. Of course they could not refrain to blame it on the Ohrana, the Tsar, fabricants of ‘fake news’ (KGB, Putin).

  769. anarchyst says:
    @dfordoom

    The “beginning of the end” of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the “modernization” of the Catholic Church.
    Much Catholic ritual and doctrine was discarded or changed, in order to reflect the “age” that we live in, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.
    Fortunately, there are Catholic organizations that subscribe to pre-Vatican II principles, one being the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).

  770. anarchyst says:
    @geokat62

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

  771. annamaria says:

    Worth reading: http://thesaker.is/erratic-empire-downfalling/
    “In truth, the US government is a front for a criminal enterprise and it has been like that ever since the US Constitution has been created and passed by whom Gore Vidal rightfully dubbed as “frightened men of property”. … The American nation never had a chance to develop to its potential, because it was hijacked early on by networks/cartels of the rich. …
    … the cartels’ original plan was to install Hillary in order to blind liberals with her pink hat the same way they had before blinded them with O’Bomber’s dark complexion. …
    From the cartels’ view, Trump turned out to be the better choice. The liberals are now too focused on his chauvinist personality and imagined Russian collusion to notice his disastrous policies, while the grumpy nostalgics still at large view him as their big Orange Hero. … he surely seems to be compliant enough on issues like Syria, Iran, Korea or Zionist apartheid not to be assassinated. …
    If the US regime was a proper republic instead of a criminal enterprise and its deep state as pragmatic as, say, the German deep state, they would surely do the only right thing there is to do in their very host country: dismantle the US military empire and invest heavily in infrastructure at home. …
    The cartels don’t give a rat’s arse over the country. That’s why, instead of focusing on domestic issues, they are now going for desperate measures to try to “discipline” Europeans, Chinese, and even Rwanda with silly tariffs in order to somehow keep the global dollar regime by asserting an illusion of power… But the dollar regime is ending. …
    Collapse, civil war, disintegration seem to be ahead for the US. … I hate to say it but my money is on a violent collapse and disintegration of the US hopefully not tearing Canada down with them.”

  772. Anon[826] • Disclaimer says:

    Revolutions are not made by bankers. Funding of the Bolsheviks by distant misguided persons would fail because revolutions are powerful events that cannot be prevented or significantly aided—like pregnancy.

    Jews were fully justified in hating Tsarism and ready to join the Bolsheviks. That revolution catapulted Jews Into deserved prominence and power—they later supported the Red Army and communism. The same can be said for the Russian peasantry who were forced to fight a bloody war. The Bolsheviks promise of peace and land appealed to them.

    The course of a revolution cannot be predicted or controlled, yet that did not stop people from trying. Even today we do not know the ultimate consequences of the Bolshevik revolution stumbling along for a century. Certainly Jacob Schiff had no idea that he had a tiger by the tail if indeed he did.

    The remarkable thing to be noted is the zig zag along ideological and political boundaries. The main early accomplishments were due to the USSR and its leader J. Stalin as follows:

    a.industrialization of a non-capitalist seed power.
    b.defeat of Nazi Germany
    c.development of nuclear weapons
    d.development of ballistic delivery systems
    e.aiding the rise of Chinese Communism

    The inevitable failure of the USSR stemmed from Stalin’s failure to warn his disciples that capitalism must be restored. However, the Chinese communists took the lead and recognized Stalin’s failures and concluded that war communism does not work—the Stalinists called it socialism.

    Today we have China as arguably the number 1 economic power and Russia with a secure strategic deterrent and powerful conventional forces. At last Russia is developing capitalism with a modern democratic constitution. The great land mass and enormous economic resources of Russia can be secured thanks to the weapons left by the Stalinists.

    China’s economic power will undoubtedly promote great political changes on many continents. This will be a repeat on a higher plane than the accomplishments of Western Imperialism.

    Oddly Marxism plays a very minor role. Perhaps because it is anti-capitalist in its core.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Seraphim
  773. Malla says:
    @jsm

    I could name a few good honest Jews

    James Perloff

    Samuel Roth

    https://archive.org/download/JewsMustLive/JML.pdf

    This Jewish guy

    http://jewsforhitler.com/index-a.htm

    This Jewish professor

    • Replies: @jsm
  774. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Revolutions are not made by bankers.

    Nearly all revolutions have been financed by bankers.

    Jews were fully justified in hating Tsarism and ready to join the Bolsheviks. That revolution catapulted Jews Into deserved prominence and power—they later supported the Red Army and communism. The same can be said for the Russian peasantry who were forced to fight a bloody war. The Bolsheviks promise of peace and land appealed to them.

    Bolshevism was a Jewish ideology from the start. There was nothing Russian about it.

    4% of the population provided 85% of the bolshevik monsters, are you freaking kidding me?

    However, the Chinese communists took the lead and recognized Stalin’s failures and concluded that war communism does not work—the Stalinists called it socialism.

    The Chinese Maoist revolution was financed by the same banking cabal.

    Also

    https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/mao-yale-man-rothschilds-create-peoples-republic-china/

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  775. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Also check this out

    Most Russians today wished the revolution had failed.

  776. Malla says:

    “You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.”

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008), Nobel-Prize-winning novelist and historian

  777. @Malla

    BOLSHEVIK MONSTERS

    Most Jews are not physically aggressive. A few can be, but in general they are not inclined towards violence. Most are not capable of it (A few are) and those that are don’t generally act out in anti-social ways.

    But as violent aggressors, they just don’t fit the profile.

    So really, the most we can do is to suggest that Jews were the architects of Red October. I doubt a single one of the lumpenproles who chopped up the Czars was a Jew. Jews just don’t get senselessly drunk and chop people up.

    I’m simply saying that thuggish street revolutionaries is not their style.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Malla
    , @dfordoom
  778. utu says:
    @j2

    Do not get me wrong, I like your research and ideas. The problem is that when we have few data points many different complex figures can be drawn through them.

    • Replies: @j2
  779. j2 says:
    @utu

    It’s fine utu, and of course my conclusions can be wrong, they are developing when time goes on, and there are indeed only few facts to hang on. Unfortunately secret societies did not like to leave any clear documents of their plans and they did not tell either, mostly lied. Masons however had this ridiculous pattern (probably a rule) that they often put some hint that another Mason would understand, a word for instance. As an example, in Waite’s Holy Kabbalah when he explains that the meaning of Kabbalah to Jews is that they must prepare for a long trip home, Waite mentions the work of Philadelphes. That is the Memphis lodge, the other revolutionary one. When one learns to notice these intentional hints, the meaning becomes clearer, but one cannot convince anybody who does not know how to read them. Just to mention, Waite tells also that the supreme council of the Mizraim lodge was called Sanhedrin and the members were called Rabbis, in case it rings any bell with the Protocols or Joly’s comment of evil men who have taken the ways of the Jews.

  780. annamaria says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “…in general they are not inclined towards violence”
    — Have you consulted MOSSAD?
    Here is an article that has miraculously survived sequestration on the web: “When Zionists Terrorized London” http://bollyn.com/#article_16007
    ” Terrorism has been the tool of the Zionists all along, and continues to be so to this day. …
    Records declassified this week [December 2017] by Britain’s Security Service, MI5, reveal an urgent terrorist threat that Britain faced in the 20th century. No, it wasn’t the Irish Republican Army or Islamist terrorist groups that would plague Britain later in the century, but rather extremist Zionist groups fighting the British after World War II to establish the State of Israel.
    In July 1946, one of these groups, the Irgun, led by the future Israeli prime minister and Nobel Peace Prize winner Menachem Begin, blew up the headquarters of the British administration in Palestine, Jerusalem’s King David Hotel, with heavy loss of civilian life and damage. The newly released MI5 files show that another group fighting the British, the Lehi or “Stern Gang,” dispatched cells to carry out bombings and assassinations in Britain itself. The Stern Gang is thought to be the world’s last terrorist group to describe itself publicly as “terrorist,” with some of its members using the term as a badge of honor…”

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-british-intel-files-reveal-how-the-zionist-stern-gang-terrorized-london-1.5627474

    • Replies: @Anon
  781. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I disagree. You think the IDF are a bunch of pussies? Mossad? Anyways there are different types of people in every ethnic group. Many Jews may be not the violent types but many others are.
    What about the Jewish Mafia? Are you freaking kidding me, Jews are never violent?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_mobsters

    List of Jewish American mobsters

    I’m simply saying that thuggish street revolutionaries is not their style.

    Are you freakin kidding me? Rosa Luxenberg, Bela Kun, Trotsky, Kaganovitch, Beria? Most of those Soviet Jewish leaders looked pretty thuggish and evil to me. Many of the leftist street agitators in Britain were Jews.

    You must have spent a lot of time around academic Jewish nerds and you think all Jews are like them.
    Yes there are many academic nerdy Jews who probably are never involved in violence but you get many such Englishmen, Germans, Japanese, Indians etc… too.
    If I see an evil thug attacking an innocent Jewish nerd guy, I will immediately take the side of the Jewish guy and help him against the thug. Same with any person of any ancestry.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  782. Anon[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Rico

    Johnny Rico is too sarcastic to print here.

  783. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    It is funny to see retards who didn’t learn (and don’t want to) anything else than the paltry “History of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks): Short Course” (История Всесоюзной Коммунистической Партии (Большевиков): Краткий курс).
    At least one of the authors (the principal) was…’born into a Jewish family as Minei Israilevich Gubelman’, aka Yemelyan Yaroslavski, chair of the “Committee on the Execution of the Decree Separating Church and State” (unofficially known as the “Anti-Religious Commission”), better known for his quality of chair of the ‘League of Militant Atheists’ (Союз воинствующих безбожников Soyuz voinstvuyushchikh bezbozhnikov).
    The second author was Vilgelm Georgiyevich Knorin (Вильгельм Георгиевич Кнорин) a… surprise (not so), Latvian: Vilhelms Vilis Knoriņš. He was later ‘killed’ in Stalin ‘Great Purge’ in 1939, which hints that he might have ‘been born into’ the tribe (the name of the famous Hebraist, Cabalist, Knorr von Rosenroth springs to mind). But that’s only a hunch, I admit.
    The third was Pyotr Pospelov, a Russian appended for the color. He was the junior member of the team.

  784. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    Then there were several attempts to assassinate the British foreign secretary, Ernest Bevin, and the murders of the governor of Egypt, Lord Moyne and UN officials Count Bernadotte and Colonel Serot.

    And of course numerous civilians

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Malla
  785. jsm says:
    @Malla

    Me too. I could add Gilad Atzmon and Philip Weiss.

    Sure, there are a few. I mean, even a monolithic bunch has a few outliers. These few outliers, who’ve shown a sincere willingness to buck the anti-White jews’ program, we’ll protect them when / if the American Cossacks come a- riding.

    But, our fella whozit is claiming that most ordinary non-religious jews are America-Firsters.

    To which I say, Poppycock.

    65 percent of jews voted against Donald Trump, which is as good a proxy for being most assuredly Not-America-First as any quick and dirty measure out there.

    In fact, the less religious the Jew, the less likely to vote for Donald Trump (the nearest thing to an America-First champion I’ve seen in my lifetime).

    Also, the dizzying numbers of anti-White organized Jewry are getting their funds somewhere. It aint all just George Soros.

    Th0se people are not our friends.

    So:
    Any average, everyday working-man Jew out there who’s Seen the Light that anti-Whitism is wrong, but has been donating to Organized Jewry or voted for B Hussein Obama, as a quick and dirty measure, needs to not just say Sorry bout that, but send MONEY to pro-White organizations. That’s my criteria for believing in the sincerity of that Jew’s Awakening.

    Put yer money where your mouth is, or don’t be surprised if you get caught up in the next pogrom.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Malla
  786. @Malla

    Being an Indian woman, I doubt that you would have really spent much time in a Jewish neighborhood. You are unlikely to be raped or robbed by violent Jews.

    We can argue that Jews were the architects of the Bolshevik Revolution, but the idea that their ranks were composed entirely of Jews terrorizing the Russian populace seems unlikely.

    The Jewish mafia existed 100 years ago. That was the last time New York City coped with Jewish street thugs. Even if the Russian mafia is largely Jewish, you’d be hard-pressed to even FIND a Russian mobster in the United States outside a few ethnic pockets in New York or Los Angeles.

    There have been a few instances of attempts by the radical Jewish to blow up mosques in the United States. Not many.

    Nobody complains that the schools are going bad because Jewish children moved into the school system. Or that Jewish men are grooming 12 year old girls. Yes, many Jewish women are involved in pornography but I really don’t care if grown Jewish women participate in repulsive sex acts. A neighborhood does not suddenly become dodgy when Jews move in.

    I’m not Jewish, but I grew up around a few and they are not the source of street crime.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @renfro
    , @Malla
  787. @Anon

    Jews did not have the numbers to constitute 80% of the masses in the Bolshevik Revolution.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @dfordoom
  788. renfro says:
    @CanSpeccy

    But the fact that you won’t even acknowledge the argument suggest either stupidity or Zionist complicity.

    I have not only acknowledged this worn out argument , I have ripped it to shreds and defeated it a half a dozen times on here with REAL HISTORY examples from 3,000 years of why that approach has never and will not ever work.

    You will never ‘pacify’ the Jews into dropping their anti semite ‘tool’. There’s zero profit for them in giving that up.

  789. Seraphim says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The Bolshevik ‘Revolution’ was not a revolution of the masses. It was a classic ‘coup d’etat’ followed by an unprecedented in its brutality, amplitude and duration campaign of terror, against the masses, that is. The fact that there were some other people engaged in it does not absolve the Jews of their responsibility.

    • Replies: @anon
  790. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    But as violent aggressors, they just don’t fit the profile.

    The history of Israel would suggest that you’re mistaken.

  791. renfro says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    You ought to stick to your porno rants about white women, rednecks, rape, blacks, etc etc in which you seem to have a unhealthy amount of interest instead of making inaccurate statements.

    The Russian Mafia is involved in everything in the US you can imagine, from hijacking trucks in Kansas to gas tax fraud in NY and has been declared a ‘threat to national security’. It is somethng else you can thank the Jews for as it came to America with the 1989 flood of Jew immigrants from Russia courtesy of US Jews demands.
    The ‘boss of bosses’ of the Russian Mafia is Semion Mogilevich, a Jew born in 1946 in Kiev.

    Russian mafia boss still at large after FBI wiretap at Trump Tower …

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wiretap-russians-trump-tower/story?id&#8230;

    Mar 21, 2017 – There, indeed, was an FBI wiretap involving Russians at Trump Tower. … he was the only target to slip away, and he remains a fugitive from American justice. … “Because of his status, we have kept tabs on his activities and …

    https://www.csmonitor.com/1995/0111/11011.html

    ”According to an estimate made public last year by FBI Director Louis Freeh, at least 100,000 Russians are now members of Mafia-style organized criminal gangs. Some of them are thought to have ties to Colombian drug cartels and the Sicilian Mafia. Their reach is such that the FBI opened the agency’s first office in Moscow last fall, in an effort to coordinate defensive strategy with Russian law-enforcement counterparts”

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/218560.pdf

    RUSSIAN ORGANIZED CRIME IN THE UNITED STATES
    By James O. Finckenauer, Ph.D. International Center National Institute of Justice
    ‘The Russian mafia in Israel and the US began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel and the US in 1989.
    The threat and use of violence is a defining characteristic of Russian organized crime. Violence is used to gain and maintain control of criminal markets, and retributive violence is used within and between criminal groups. The common use of violence is not surprising since extortion and protection rackets are such a staple of Russian criminal activity. ROC has engaged extensively in contract murders, kidnaping, and arson against businesses whose owners refuse to pay extortion money. For example, in September 1999, six members of the Gufield-Kutsenko Brigade plead guilty in New York to federal racketeering charges involving terrorizing business owners to extort money.

    Undercover Look Inside The Russian Mob – CBS News

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/undercover-look-inside-the-russian-mob/

    May 13, 2008 – mob keteyian russian mafia z undercover infiltrate … Armen Keteyian looks inside one of the most dangerous threats: The Russian Mob. … enterprise stretching from Moscow to Israel to Thailand to the United States, blending …

    Human Trafficking: Russian Mafia and the Israeli Connection – 2001 …

    https://www.voanews.com/a/a-13-a-2001-07-20-3-human…/377489.html

    Oct 28, 2009 – The illegal trafficking of human beings is a growing international crime. Criminal groups have developed a brisk trade selling tens of thousands …

    U.S. Cables: Russian, Israeli Mafias Gaining Power, Infiltrating …

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/…/10311-us-cables-russian-israeli-mafias-gaining-p&#8230;

    Dec 8, 2010 – U.S. Cables: Russian, Israeli Mafias Gaining Power, Infiltrating …. The power of the Israeli mafia and its ties to Russian oligarchs have been the …

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  792. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    Jews did not have the numbers to constitute 80% of the masses in the Bolshevik Revolution.

    I don’t think anyone is claiming that 80% of the masses were Jewish.They’re claiming that 80% of the leadership was Jewish.

    It’s not something that bothers me much personally. I don’t subscribe to the belief that everything is the fault of the Jews. And I think liberalism is a greater evil than Bolshevism anyway.

  793. renfro says:
    @jsm

    In fact, the less religious the Jew, the less likely to vote for Donald Trump (the nearest thing to an America-First champion I’ve seen in my lifetime).

    You are in for a terrible disappointment.
    Except for a small sect, both religious and secular Jews support Israel —-the difference being only in what they advocate for it.

    The militant Jews want the US to bomb Israel’s neighbors and competitors to ashes and let them have all of Palestine —these are the right wing Trump Jews and donors to his campaign.

    The left wing Jews want the US to settle I-P peacefully but let Israel keep all stolen Palestine territory and for US taxpayers to keep sending billions to Israel.

  794. renfro says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    ……. but the idea that their ranks were composed entirely of Jews terrorizing the Russian populace seems unlikely

    That’s not what she said.

  795. Bukowski says:
    @Anonymous

    Correct. But all of Hitler’s peace overtures were rejected. Roosevelt and Churchill’s insistence on unconditional surrender prolonged WW2 leading to millions more casualties than was necessary.

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10192

  796. @renfro

    Having not learned from Carter’s importation of Cuban criminals, Reagan then invited Russians to clean the Jewish criminals out of their Gulags. Along with pimping Noriega, this is a really typical Cold War thing to do.

    However, I don’t think a few Russian Jew loan sharks and hijackers compare to MS-13 Latino gangs roaming the parks with machetes.

    Nobody’s daughter is not going to face Russian Jewish mob guys in her high school hallway.

    And these articles indicate, as expected, that most of this mob presence is in New York City in pockets of Jews, just like Sicilians were most in the Northeast. Though I do not doubt there are also a number of them in Vegas or Los Angeles.

    They won’t be robbing or attacking you on the street or sell crack in your neighborhood.

    • Replies: @renfro
  797. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Correction, I am an Indian man. I have been around Jews. When I was studying in England and Germany a few of my professors were Jews and they were good decent guys. Nothing against them. Had some Israeli friends in Goa and Himachal Pradesh in India, not one of by best experience though. Not all Jews may be of the revolutionary type, but many were and many are. You just did not come across the revolutionary types. That’s all.

    Maybe you gotta read this

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/the-bolshevik-jewish-revolution/

  798. Malla says:
    @jsm

    Agree with you 100%.

  799. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Ernest Bevin was from a tough working class background and was a socialist (not a commie tho). Tough guy but when he opposed the Zio elites, he felt their full force against him. Count Bernadotte’s killers got away free and became top hochos in the Israeli government. Talk about lack of justice in this world. That is why when some scum politician or some brain washed libtard starts speaking about justice and human rights, I feel like throwing up.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  800. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    “Tough guy but when he opposed the Zio elites, he felt their full force against him.”

    Jeremy Corbyn isn’t made of same stuff as Ernest Bevin, he doesn’t really oppose the “Zio elites” but right now, he’s feeling their full force. Corbyn is Jewish but he isn’t a zionist therefore he is an “anti-semite” or a self-hating jew.

    Needless to say no single politician (Labour included), national figure of some importance(writers, journalists, professors, artists…), has the courage to tell the “British” Zio elites that their accusation against JC and the Labour party is completely false and they are a bunch of liars.

    Soon or later, JC will have to go and Labour party will have a successor chosen by the board of deputies of British Jews. It’s called democracy.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @dfordoom
  801. @Malla

    Malla is an Indian female name. Presumably you wish to remain anonymous.

    Indian Muslims might harbor ill-will to Jews and vice versa, but in general I don’t think Jews have an opinion about Indians.

    Down in the South, the so-called St. Thomas Christians from Syria, probably Iraq Jews who came for who knows what reason to Kerala, have some pull in Kochi.

    But they have been there for so many centuries that they do not really qualify as Jews any longer. And Jews themselves do not recognize them as such.

    • Replies: @Malla
  802. @Malla

    Those in Goa are mostly junkies.

    Then again so are the Kashmir migrants, the Bengali hookers on Wasco beach (Though you’ll never have such great sex for 2000 Rupees…the Gora price), the British tourists.

  803. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    2016 analysis in Kenneth D. Ackerman’s 2016 book Trotsky in New York, 1917 notes

    Ackerman rather cavalierly dismisses all of this considerable contemporaneous evidence as “anti-Semitic” and a “conspiracy story,” arguing that since Schiff was a notorious conservative who had never shown any sympathy for socialism in his own American milieu, he surely would not have funded the Bolsheviks.”

    when did ideology trump Jewish DNA based interest?

    It never and will never. Ideology is just a tool to them , to be used against the core principle ( of the very ideology ) if necessary .

    On another level, this argument is like saying how USA can support ISIS or how IS can cooperate with Israel or how Israel can protect and promote ISIS or worst how Hitler being a loving family man can kill the entire families.

  804. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Hindus love of Israel can be understood once we understand some of the Muslim’s love for Nazi Germany /Hitler.
    Both are wrong and dangerous.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Jeff Stryker
  805. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    The revolution was tele -radio cast for the masses . It was usurped . Botrh the ideologies and the framework were usurped
    Today we say same- democracy , freedom of speech, open capitalism, sanction based wars ,UN, and the rights of other nations – all have been twisted and deformed to serve the interest of Zionist.

  806. Malla says:
    @anon

    Actually during the early days of the Hindu fundamentalist RSS, many hindus too admired Mussolini’s Italy and Hitler’s Germany.

    https://www.ibtimes.com/hindu-nationalists-historical-links-nazism-fascism-214222

    Hindu Nationalist’s Historical Links to Nazism and Fascism

    The Hindu fundus did a you turn when they realised how power the Joos were in the world and that Joos had a beef with Muslims and even Christians upto a lesser extent.

  807. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Down in the South, the so-called St. Thomas Christians from Syria, probably Iraq Jews

    Yup, the St. Thomas Christians in South India are descendants of Nestorian Christians and are mostly of Middle Eastern Jewish ancestry. They were earlier Orthodox Syriacs however many of them converted to Catholicism, Anglicanism and Presbyterianism later on due to Portuguese, French and British influence.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  808. @anon

    Israeli backpackers bring a great deal of money into India, especially Goa.

  809. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    Wow I did not Corbyn was Jewish, thanks for letting me know. I guess even David Cameroon has Jewish ancestry and the Millibands are fully open Jewish. I wonder if Theresa May is of the chosen too. She looks remarkably similar to a British Jewish woman I know.

    It’s called democracy.

    Democracy in this day and age = SCAM.

  810. @Malla

    They seemed to be the upper-class of Kochi.

    • Replies: @Malla
  811. renfro says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Reagan then invited Russians to clean the Jewish criminals out of their Gulags.

    Once again you reveal your ignorance…….the Jewish Russian influx occurred during the Nixon adm
    because of the Jewish lobby sponsored Jackson-Vanik bill….not during Reagan.

  812. @Ron Unz

    A Harvard undergrad I met yesterday who reads Steve Hsu’s blog, Unz Review, and my blog suspects that you get some Russian funding. I told him that you built this site all by yourself, with the exception of using WordPress for the backend.

  813. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:

    @ Malla

    Theresa May is not a member of the tribe but she is an honorary jew otherwise she wouldn’t be PM.
    Same applies to Tony Blair, Clinton, Trump etc…They are all honorary jews.
    They are even allowed to marry their daughter/son into the tribe.

    Everyone knows it but it’s good to know that an important member of the tribe can, sometimes, be honest

    “Antisemitism IS A TRICK, WE ALWAYS USE IT ” says former ISRAELI MINISTER.

    • Replies: @Malla
  814. Bukowski says:

    The Jewish Threat is a book by Joseph W Bendersky. It is about US intelligence dossiers on the role of Jews in relation to communism. Many officers were saying the same thing about Jews as Adolf Hitler did. Here is a review by John Wear -

    https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/05/29/wearswar-review-of-joseph-w-benderskys-book-the-jewish-threat-the-irony-of-declassified-u-s-intelligence-dossiers-antisemitism-in-the-military/

  815. Some of you might be pleased to hear that it’s perfectly okay for Chinese to be what would be regarded as “openly anti-Semitic” in America. Kudos to the cultural firewall.

    https://gmachine1729.com/2017/08/21/brainwashing-in-america/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Rui#Controversy

    Yes, the host of arguably the most prominent English news show in China can say

    The media and the republic go up and down together. The US has done this to the extreme, but Wall Street’s greed was not exposed because Jews control both the financial and media worlds. Why do the US media not dare to support the call for the establishment of a Palestinian state? It’s because they’re afraid of getting fired by their Jewish bosses. When I interviewed the chairman of the US Jewish Association, I questioned him on this. He snarled at me ferociously and said that in America, no one would dare to speak to him this way. He was like a mafia chief. So please stop saying how beautiful American press freedom is.

    And nobody will really care, because most educated people in China are well aware of this. This is not really “anti-Semitism,” more like aggressively questioning the ramifications of Jewish media and financial control in the US. I read the Chinese news a fair bit; for the most part, it’s far less “full of shit.” Much because the “educated” people have a much more accurate and knowledgeable view of history. Of course, Chinese themselves will sometimes engage in the aggressive ethnocentric, nationalistic, pro-communist type of trash talk; well, that kind of thing is natural for just about any major ethnically homogeneous country. I’m sure Russians have their own version of that. Same with Japanese. Germans, because of their past, have to be a bit more careful. Though I’m sure they also do the same amongst themselves in a more private setting.

    In any case, with regard to all the media smear on China in the US, it’s very easy for Chinese to identify Jews (who control the US media) as the root. 毛主席说过:世界上没有无缘无故的爱,也没有无缘无故的恨。(Translation: This world has no love without reason, and also no hate without reason.)

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @anonymous
    , @Miro23
  816. Tony M says:

    I feel I should add my own hint or pointer to Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgregor’s epic works on World War 1; commenter ‘refl’ has made a fair summation of it already; this is a good starting point for the condensed online version:

    https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.wordpress.com/2014/06/13/lies-damned-lies-and-commemorations-2/

    It is a long read, buy the books or plough through using the ‘Next’ button in the page footers, the story really picks up pace after a dry start, but it might clear up some of the confusion, some of it wilful, that abounds here.

    Covered topics include:

    The Rhodes/Milner Round Table World Government plan and the Zionist conspiracy that penetrated and co-opted it – but as Rhodes owed his South African fortune to an Alliance with Rothschild to fund the takeover the South-African gold and diamond mining enterprises – it is yet still difficult to determine which was the master conspiracy; South Africa and the two Boer Wars connect a good few of the players. The utter ruin and destruction of Germany, or at least keeping them down for thirty years or more was the overt plan, the British interest; the Tsar was double-crossed, Constantinople would never be his (or Russia’s), but either the conspiracy within or above and outside the British conspiracy depending on your interpretation -the Zionist anti-Russian (and everybody else in turn, their world government instead the Rhodes ‘British’ world government) conspiracy, would take care of Russia and the Tsar.

    And.

    Turkey, the confiscated new Turkish ships built on the Clyde and Tyneside, Turkish crews in Glasgow and Newcastle to take possession and their replacement by two German ships delivered to Turkey to protect Constantinople from the Russians, a perilous voyage impossible without the strenuous assistance of the British Royal Navy and preponderant in the Med. French Fleet, in reaching the Straits . Turkey, Gallipoli (a carefully contrived intentional disaster); prolonging the war, Hoover’s ‘Belgian’ Relief feeding the German Army -as early in the war Germany could no longer feed itself, much less its army, exports of all the German military needs such as gun-cotton from the US, ores from Britain, facilitated and shepherded through the sham naval blockade, using ports in Sweden and Denmark with fast rail connections to Germany, and canal systems through Holland and Belgium which likewise carried bulk goods from the coast inland to destinations in Germany. And we haven’t even considered the many French-based industrial enterprises which served German industries’ wants, unhindered. The blockade for most of WW1 was nothing more than a sham, only after Russia’s October Revolution was it implemented as advertised and with confirmation of the Tsars demise it attained its full potential and continued with murderous genocidal savagery until 1924. Only with power in Russia secure in their hands did the Zionists drop their considerable support for Germany which until then had stymied the misguided allied (British/French) effort to destroy it and its (and their) kindred people.

    Much more, stunning works of research and a good read too.

    Germany was in no condition to fight any kind of war in 1914, it was tricked and lead by the nose unwillingly, it did not initiate it nor desire it, its army required to be secretly propped up by the putative western enemies to keep it in the game and fighting in the east, the slaughter in the western trenches collateral damage, a blood sacrifice. Calculated fratricide. A cull of uppity-getting superfluous proles, even those of the middling classes. This alone will discomfort many who still adhere to any part of the bogus narrative of the early 20th Century.

    On an unrelated note to the above matter and of a far lesser significance as it is just a historical and metaphysical curiosity, ‘Derryl’ above correctly identifies a possible source for the Protocols template, but possibly comes to a premature conclusion. One Peter Myers on his site (link below) has wrangled this and devoted more time to it than I would accord it worth and has not shed much light on the matter is inconclusive but there are parallels with the Joly work; drilling down from one of his own links it can be found that in some parts the correspondence between the two is word for word: http://mailstar.net/Joly-Prot-parallels.pdf

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Malla
  817. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anonymous

    Corbyn is Jewish

    He is? Are you sure?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @anonymous
  818. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    Jeremy Corbyn: ‘My Jewish ancestry’

    New Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has said that he has some Jewish ancestry.

    In an interview in today’s Church Times, he revealed that there was a “Jewish element” in the family.

    His mother Naomi was a Bible-reading agnostic “brought up in a religious environment and her brother was a vicar, and there was quite a lot of clergy in her family,” he said.

    “Going back a lot further, there is a Jewish element in the family, probably from Germany.”

    His father was a church-going Christian.

    Mr Corbyn said that he himself was “not anti-religious at all” and probably went to more religious services than most strong believers.

    “I go to churches, I go to mosques, I go to synagogues,” he said. “I find the power of faith very interesting.

    “I have friends who are very strongly atheist and wouldn’t have anything to do with any faith; but I take a much more relaxed view of it. I think the faith community offers and does a great deal for people.”

    https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-my-jewish-ancestry-1.58487

  819. BillyBob says:
    @Ron Unz

    Hey Ron, I sent this reply to Colin Wright who advocated reading “Tombstone”. The West will never promote any history which accurately depicts reality. Here’s a quick deconstruction of “Tombstone”.

    It’s rather simple actually to deconstruct the dishonest arguments in “Tombstone”. Patrick McNally does so with relative ease in his two star Amazon review:

    “Not surprisingly, many proponents of capitalist restoration in China have sought to promote the most wildly inflated estimates of famine deaths in these years in an effort to justify counter-revolution. The more honest books will simply quote plausible numbers for the years 1957-63, but without telling the reader anything about what real mortality patterns in China historically looked like. But there is another even more dishonest approach favored among some proponents of capitalism which actually requires deliberately faking statistics by citing numbers from the official statistics where it is politically convenient, yet citing higher numbers from other sources for other years.”

    “It is analogous to if someone found two census agencies which regularly offer an annual estimate of the black population in the USA, but which use a different criterion so that there is always a disparity of one million in the numbers for each year. Now suppose that someone looked up such numbers from such sources and quoted them for two consecutive years in a way which implied that white racists had murdered one million black people. That is the type of hoax which Yang Jisheng tries playing in this book.”

    “It’s easy to cite specific illustrations of this from the text. On p. 394 he says:”

    “The mortality rate in Sichuan from 1958 to 1962 was 1.517 percent, 4.69 percent, 5.39 percent, 2.942 percent, and 1.482 percent.”

    “Comparing these numbers with the numbers given by both Judith Banister and the Statistical Yearbook, it’s clear that the number “1.517 percent” which he gives for 1958 is meant to read as a little bit higher than the number “11.98 per thousand” which the Statistical Yearbook gives. Yet this number is significantly lower than the number “18.12 per thousand” which Banister gives for 1957, and the gap is even larger when compared with the “20.65 per thousand” which Banister assigns to 1958 itself.”

    “This isn’t just a fluke accident. On pp. 408-9 the author lists alleged death rates which clearly come from the Statistical Yearbook and he uses to compute what he declares to be a “normal mortality rate” of 1.047 percent. This is obviously a very steep underestimate of what real mortality rates in China up to 1957 had been like. Banister’s guess of 18.12 per thousand may even be too low, as it assumes a dramatic heretofore unprecedented drop in Chinese mortality over the years 1949-57. If Chinese mortality in 1957 had only been as low as 25 per thousand then that would still represent a dramatic gain over the preformances of Czarist Russia and pre-1949 China, while still being larger than each of the mortality rates which Banister assigns to 1958, 1959 and 1961.”

    “Obviously the reason why Yang Jusheng uses the number of 1.047 percent as an estimate drawn from the Statistical Yearbook is because when such a steep underestimate of real mortality in China is cited, then followed by more realistic estimates for the later years, it allows one to dramatically raise the numbers of deaths occurring over an alleged “normal mortality rate.” This is a very dishonest cut-and-paste method of generating false statistical results. Because of this all of the more special assertions made in this book which do not already have a general corroboration need to be treated with high skepticism. This book was put together with an agenda, and that shows.”

  820. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Yes they are a successful lot. They are after all a combination population of Nasrani/ Nestorian Christians (basically Middle Eastern Jewish converts to Christianity) and Nambudiri Brahmins (who themselves are descendents of earlier immigrated Jews).

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  821. Malla says:
    @gmachine1729

    I wonder if most Chinese people in the PRC or even in Taiwan know of the central role played by the Jewish Sassoons (an elite Sephardic Jewish family) in the Opium War/Trade and the looting of China.

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
  822. Malla says:
    @anonymous

    What is so interesting is that Jews have a special name for the “racism” they face. If a black, Indian, White, East Asian person etc…faces some form of discrimination on the basis of race, it is called plain Racism. Jews have a special and bogus term ‘anti Semitism’. If a Yemeni Arab (who is extremely Semitic by ancestry) says something against Israel, he is accused of being an anti Semite, which is really funny and illogical.

    • Agree: gmachine1729
  823. Seraphim says:
    @Tony M

    It is known that when you try to prove to much you prove nothing, or the contrary.
    It is useful to consult the Wikipedia entry The Protocols… which, although it tries also to prove to much, places their emergence in their proper historical context, with an overview of the ‘anti-semitic’ litterature circulating in Russia and Europe prior to their emergence. The idea of a Jewish conspiracy was current all over Europe, especially in France and especially virulent in Eastern Europe (the case of Romania where the Alliance Israelite Universelle, Western Governments and American diplomats were pushing hard for the naturalization of an exceedingly great number of Jewish immigrants from Russia and Austria-Hungary, making of it a condition for the recognition of the independence of Romania from the Ottoman Empire).

    “Paradoxically, early Russian editions of the Protocols assert that they did not come from a Zionist organization”…

    “The Protocols were published at the earliest, in serialized form, from August 28 to September 7 (O.S.) 1903, in Znamya, a Saint Petersburg daily newspaper, under Pavel Krushevan. Krushevan had initiated the Kishinev pogrom four months earlier.
    In 1905, Sergei Nilus published the full text of the Protocols in Chapter XII, the final chapter (pp 305–417), of the second edition (or third, according to some sources) of his book, Velikoe v malom i antikhrist, which translates as “The Great within the Small: The Coming of the Anti-Christ and the Rule of Satan on Earth”. He claimed it was the work of the First Zionist Congress, held in 1897 in Basel, Switzerland. When it was pointed out that the First Zionist Congress had been open to the public and was attended by many non-Jews, Nilus changed his story, saying the Protocols were the work of the 1902–3 meetings of the Elders, but contradicting his own prior statement that he had received his copy in 1901:
    “In 1901, I succeeded through an acquaintance of mine (the late Court Marshal Alexei Nikolayevich Sukotin of Chernigov) in getting a manuscript that exposed with unusual perfection and clarity the course and development of the secret Jewish Freemasonic conspiracy, which would bring this wicked world to its inevitable end. The person who gave me this manuscript guaranteed it to be a faithful translation of the original documents that were stolen by a woman from one of the highest and most influential leaders of the Freemasons at a secret meeting somewhere in France—the beloved nest of Freemasonic conspiracy.

    Stolypin’s fraud investigation, 1905
    A subsequent secret investigation ordered by Pyotr Stolypin, the newly appointed chairman of the Council of Ministers, came to the conclusion that the Protocols first appeared in Paris in antisemitic circles around 1897–1898. When Nicholas II learned of the results of this investigation, he requested, “The Protocols should be confiscated, a good cause cannot be defended by dirty means.” Despite the order, or because of the “good cause”, numerous reprints proliferated”.
    So far the Wikipedia.

    The first’debunker’ of the forgery in the West, Lucien Wolff, a prominent Anglo-Jewish journalist, pointed out only to the pamphlets already circulating in Europe, to the popular novels seething with conspiracies, secret societies, etc. which was obvious for the investigation of Stolypin. Wolff specifically referred to Goedshe and Gougenot des Mousseux (Wikipedia is wrong asserting that Wolff quoted another ‘conspiracy theorist’ – the Catholic journalist and historian Jacques Crétineau-Joly – who never said a word about a Jewish conspiracy -, a ‘Freudian slip’ or a deliberate attempt to create in the minds of the readers an association with Maurice Joly). He ascribed it plausibly to the antisemitic millieux of the ‘Black Hundreds’.

    The story of the ‘plagiarism’ of the obscure (if known at all) ‘Dialogue aux Enfers’ was specifically introduced to blame it on an anti-Jewish conspiracy organized by the Okhrana (Department for Protecting the Public Security and Order Отделение по Охранению Общественной Безопасности и Порядка), which concocted a ‘false flag’ operation to ‘demonize’ the Jews for their massive participation in the revolutionary organizations. Bear in mind that the Okhrana was blamed for being the master-mind of the assassination of Franz-Ferdinand. Russia-gate ‘avant la lettre’.

  824. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    Yes, I’m. Both his parents are jewish.

    But maybe I’m being unfair because Corbyn doesn’t define himself as a jew so, maybe we should not consider him as a jew. He’s a man, a socialist, a father, a vegetarian, “leader” of Labour party etc…

    Anyway, he isn’t a fanatic zionist therefore for the tribe it’s better to have an honorary jew as PM than Corbyn, athough I’m sure if Corbyn becomes PM he will probably be as dangerous to the Zio fascists as Trump is.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  825. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @gmachine1729

    “And nobody will really care, because most educated people in China are well aware of this”

    Educated people everywhere are “aware of this”. And that is completely irrelevant.

    Chinese elites know certainly that “Jews control both the financial and media worlds.” and they are certainly responsible for most of the wars ,past and present.

    But the fact of the matter is: Chinese elites don’t give a damn.
    It’s seems that an immoral world is not incompatible with Confucianism, and it’s certainly not incompatible with Marxism/Capitalism/Fascism and the “brave new world” China is building, and you seem to agree with Richard Lynn, if I read your article correctly.

    In that ” brave new world” jews can be China’s junior partner like the wasps are today junior partners of the jewish empire.

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
  826. @Malla

    How could Brahmin be Jews? At the dawn of time they came down from the Ukraine or Russia or perhaps the Caspian area.

    Brahmin were in India before the Jewish diaspora from ancient Israel.

    Nair (Who dislike Brahmin and chased them out of Kerala) don’t identify the St. Thomas “Syrians” as Brahmin.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  827. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    There have been some cases of Jewish intermarriage with some Brahmin communities of the West coast of India in the past.

    Nair (Who dislike Brahmin and chased them out of Kerala) don’t identify the St. Thomas “Syrians” as Brahmin.

    St. Thomas Syrians are Christians isn’t it. They are outside the Brahmin Nair Hindu rivalry. Nambudiri Brahmins had a tradition called Sambadham where Brahmins guys would use Nair women as concubines and have marriages of convenience with Niar and other middle caste women in the past. Of course they would not touch lower caste smelly super dark women.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  828. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    At the dawn of time they came down from the Ukraine or Russia or perhaps the Caspian area.

    Brahmins are not the only ones with Slavic Y ancestry. Many other upper caste guys have R1a1 Y chromosome from the Balto Slavic people. I mayself have R1a1 paternal ancestry.
    Besides some other warrior royal castes like Rajputs have Scythian (Saca) ancestry fromt heir male side. Gautam Buddha himself had Scythian ancestry from his male side. Scythians were later migrants from Central Asia, they came after Brahmins were formed. Central Asia has always been a source of invaders/migrants and hence genes and culture into the Indian subcontinent

    Historical Evidence for the Scythic Origin of Rajputs

    http://rajputana.htmlplanet.com/scy_raj/scy_raj1.html

    And who were these Scythian whose descendants was Lord Buddha himself.

    From

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

    Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Scythians, even those in the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly “Europid” features, although mixed ‘Euro-mongoloid” phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[116]

    In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting European traits.[117] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[117] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[117][118] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[117][119] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[117] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterises the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[117][120] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][121] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterised by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[117] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[117][122] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[123] The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[124] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][125]

    Lord Buddha himself came from an Indo Scythian royal family.

    http://thaimangoes.blogspot.in/2009/08/h9.html

    Lord Buddha had blue eyes.
    Look at the physical characteristics of the Mahapurusha (Great Man) Lord Buddha

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_characteristics_of_the_Buddha

    Characteristic 29: Eyes deep blue

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Anon
  829. Malla says:
    @Tony M

    Thanks for this great post. One must investigate further the ‘The Black Hand’ Serbian secret society which triggered the war (by the assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austrian Empire ) which would end up killing millions. Who were really supporting this group and Princip?

  830. @Malla

    MALLA

    How did the Gujjars (Georgians) get from Georgia to the deserts of the Gujarat?

    How did the Aryans get so far from the Ukraine or from Eastern Europe?

    The history of North India is a real mystery?

    • Replies: @Malla
  831. @Malla

    “POMME”

    The St. Thomas Christian I knew was nicknamed Pomme and was a middle-aged drunk who’d been an X-Ray tech in Tennessee for a decade but eventually inherited some money and became a party animal.

    He talked at length about Nair girls and his sexual escapades with them.

    I knew him from the Kerala upscale bar. A Gora can get picked on in low bars, but the more expensive ones are safe enough.

  832. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    How did the Gujjars (Georgians) get from Georgia to the deserts of the Gujarat?

    Georgians? I thought the Gujjars were Khazars.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  833. @Malla

    No, the word Gujjar is a Hindu version of the word Georgian. How they came to find themselves in the Gujarat desert is a mystery but they originated in Georgia, Russia.

    You’re thinking Khazar because Gujarati are the Jews of India.

    • Replies: @Malla
  834. @annamaria

    The German Federal Criminal Investigation Bureau (BKA) examined the [Frank] diary and concluded that portions of the work were written with a ball pen, only available from 1951.

    You didn’t follow the link, did you.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170517145133/http://www.annefrank.org/ImageVaultFiles/id_14671/cf_21/tenquestions_en.pdf

    It states:

    “around 1960, two annotation sheets with ballpoint writing were inserted between the original pages. These texts were written by a graphological researcher, and are not included in any edition of the diary (apart from the Critical Edition, where photos of the annotation sheets are reproduced). In July 2006, the BKA found it necessary to state in a press release that the 1980 investigation cannot be used to call the authenticity of the diary into doubt.”

    Anne Frank’s father Otto Frank refused to allow any interested party to inspect the diary in spite of ‘growing charges of fraud’.

    The manuscript was examined forensically both before and after Otto Frank’s death in 1980, and found to be genuine.

    Writer Meyer Levin won a suit in the New York Supreme Court against Otto Frank, Anne’s father, for 50 000 dollars as an “honorarium for his work” on the diary’ (The Zionist Connection p.819).

    Meyer Levin became involved after the book had been published, when he read the French translation. He converted the book to a play; but when Otto Frank authorized a script by other playwrights, and this play was produced on Broadway, Levin sued.

    https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/97/10/26/reviews/frank-obsession.html

    • Replies: @annamaria
  835. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    You’re thinking Khazar because Gujarati are the Jews of India.

    Partly because of that and partly because in the Gazetteer of Bombay Presidency, the British civil servant James M. Campbell identified Gujars with Khazars. But who knows, they may be Georgians or a mix of the two.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  836. annamaria says:
    @James N. Kennett

    There were some minor editions and additions, are you aware? https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/af2-diary-authentic/
    “After WWII, Otto Frank compiled and edited Anne’s diary. Because of the diary format, which promotes a personal and intimate style of writing, Otto noticed that many entries included embarrassing details or family conflicts. He sought to remain true to Anne’s writing while saving his family the pain of posthumous distress. These were all minor edits that did not take away from the themes and experiences Anne discussed in the diary.”

    https://www.sott.net/article/110625-Is-the-Anne-Frank-Diary-a-fraud “When Anne allegedly rewrote the diaries, she used a ball point pen, which did not exist in 1945, and the book took on an extremely high literary standard, and read more like a professional documentary than a child’s diary. In Anne’s second edition her writing style, and handwriting, suddenly matured…
    The actual diary of Anne Frank contained only about 150 notes, according to The New York Times, of October 2 ,1955.”

    In the light of the Jewish State criminal activities in the Middle East, the diary (whatever its merits) deserves to be presented in the context of the life of Palestinian youth.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  837. @Malla

    North Indian civilization was born in other countries. Patthan Muslims are from Afghanistan, Sikhs are from the Volga river, Punjabi are from Greece (In part), Parsi are from Iran, Brahmin are from Eastern Europe (No, they are not Germans), Goans are from Portugal, Sinhalese are from Bengal, Rajputs are Scythians.

  838. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    Sinhalese are from Bengal, Rajputs are Scythians.

    Bengal is in North India and SL is not, so I’m not sure what your point is there? It may well be a good one, I just don’t know what it is.

    But if Rajputs are Scythians we might as well say that Germanics are central Asians, that’s going a little far. Am I missing something?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  839. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    they came after Brahmins were formed.

    Out of curiosity, what makes you say that? Don’t Brahmins also have a very high percentage of R1a1 Y-DNA?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Malla
  840. @Anon

    Sinhalese are descended from Bengali settlers who sailed there around the time of Buddha.

    Any Indian on this site will support that.

    Nikki Haley looks like a Scythian.

    Few Germans look Central Asian.

    I find you inane, sir.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  841. @Anon

    Yes, but their DNA groups most closely with Ukrainians. That is, North Indian ones. On the male side.

    Another words some Polack guys came down about 3,000 years ago to India and married Dravidian women.

    That’s horrendously simplistic.

    Curiously, there is no Iranic DNA in Brahmin. Their blood type is straight up Eastern European. So they were not from Iran.

  842. @annamaria

    https://www.sott.net/article/110625-Is-the-Anne-Frank-Diary-a-fraud “When Anne allegedly rewrote the diaries, she used a ball point pen, which did not exist in 1945 …”

    You have offered a different web page, but the source of the story is the same: the 1980 BKA investigation which found ballpoint pen on two annotation sheets that had been added by a graphologist in about 1960.

    The diary had already been published as a book in the Netherlands in 1947, before ballpoint pens were widely available in Europe, and so it is obviously absurd to suggest that the manuscript was forged during the ballpoint era.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  843. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I find you inane, sir.

    That’s your prerogative.

    Sinhalese are descended from Bengali settlers who sailed there around the time of Buddha.

    Assuming we grant that, my question was: in what way does it support your point about North Indian civilization? Did you bring it up to support some different point? If so, what was it?

    Nikki Haley looks like a Scythian.

    There are no Scythians. Those that did exist were in Central Asia (mostly).

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Malla
  844. @anonymous

    You sure “educated” people in the US are “aware of this?” Many seem to be blinded or intimidated away by accusations of anti-Semitism.

    I think Richard Lynn might be a bit too optimistic about China. They’re not really building any “Brave New World” in the eugenic/Huxley sense, though surely, they are trying to establish an alternative world order. Major obstacle to that is too many of the political elites have assets and children overseas. Like, I just saw on Baidu front page that the granddaughter of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Yun attended some US prep school + Duke + Harvard MBA and worked for Morgan Stanley afterwards. That Harvard MBA part really makes me go yuck. It might be that Xi Jinping wants to remove such “dependencies,” and the trade war will only make that easier.

    I’m somewhat flattered that you read my blog. So does a Chinese-American Harvard undergrad who cold emailed me about it saying that he feels he has come to many of the same conclusions. He came at age 5 and wishes that his parents hadn’t brought him here. After he expressed to me his belief that affirmative action is but a means for Jewish and white elites to transfer some spots that would otherwise belong to Asian-Americans to blacks and Hispanics, who do not pose any threat to their position, I remembered that I had recently written the same on my blog in Chinese. (Link to full post.)

    总之而言,这些人我觉得在忽略一个更根本的问题,就是为什么华裔在美国得不到平等。为什么呢,美国还是白人统治的白人大多数国家就不用说了,就是在世界,作为种族,白人的社会地位还是远远更高的,由于白人在前好几百年所积累的,此难以摆脱。没错,东亚人很聪明,又勤奋,智商高一点,这一点在心理统计学界里是几乎绝对认可的,毫无异议的,但是问题是权利和资源掌握在白人手里,这一点白人的精英和统治者是不会轻易放弃的,反而东亚人好,还更有原因被歧视。白人不太在乎黑裔或墨西哥裔,他们不构成任何威胁,而且给予这些被压迫民族一点名额和资源不仅能缓解一些殖民奴役所造成的所有的白人內疚感,还便以表出一点虚伪的慈善,不用说,把资源从主要对手转移至弱者是非常典型常用的增强巩固自己地位的手段。

    My English translation of it:

    In summary, these people (those Chinese-Americans advocating for “equal education rights”) neglecting a more fundamental problem, which is why Chinese-Americans cannot attain equality. Why? With America still a white-ruled, white-majority country needless to say, even in the world, race-wise, whites still have much higher social position, due to what whites have accumulated over the past several centuries that is difficult to escape. Yes, East Asians are very smart, and also hard-working, with slightly higher IQ, the consensus among the psychometrics community, basically undisputed, but the problem is that the power and resources are still controlled by whites, and this is something that the white elite and ruling class will not easily give up; on the contrary, there is more reason for discrimination when East Asians are good. Whites don’t really care about blacks or Hispanics, who don’t pose any threat, and moreover, giving those oppressed groups some places and resources not only assuages the white guilt owing to colonialism and slavery, it also presents an artificial charity. Obviously, to transfer resources from one’s main competitor to those who are weak is a very common method of strengthening and consolidating one’s own position.

    I told him that this is obvious. He said that it’s not to many people. And sadly, that is almost certainly the case. Mostly because nobody in America ever says this, especially in the media. And similarly, you never hear in the media about how Jews practically control public discourse in this country.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  845. annamaria says:
    @James N. Kennett

    This source, “Holocaust Denial on Trial” ( https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/af2-diary-authentic/), subtly contradicts your opinion on the alleged purity of the diary:
    “After WWII, Otto Frank compiled and edited Anne’s diary.”
    – What is not clear in this admission of editing by the most ardent defenders of the authenticity of the diary?
    The main point is, the use of the diary to promote the ideas of Jewish “incomparable sufferings” and “eternal victimhood” appears not just hypocritical but obscene in the context of the dangerous life of teenagers living in Gaza Ghetto today.
    Who could take the promotion of the diary seriously when the Jewish State supplies Israel-made arms and weaponry to head-choppers of ISIS and to Ukrainian neo-Nazi?
    If the Jewish Community worldwide wanted to defend the memory and honor of victims of the WWII, the excommunication of Nuland-Kagan and Bibi should be the first-order action.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  846. @Malla

    I didn’t. And the answer to your question is almost certainly no. And honestly, the Opium War is long past. China the way it was then was bound to get wrecked eventually. Chinese can take some self-blame for not having realized how far ahead the West was. What China has been doing from start of 20th century, and especially after 1950, has basically been to make up for all the lost time. They have so far been quite successful at that but still a long road ahead.

    In any case, I’m not surprised. I have done a thought experiment though, which is what if the Chinese government used anti-Semitism (and on this you just provided another useful data point ;) ) as an ideological weapon, both to motivate people at home and to sow internal discord in the West. Like, people in the West don’t give a damn about Japan, but many still fucking hate Jews, so maybe that would be a better strategy? Also, Japanese are also East Asians, and though Chinese suffered so much under them, maybe in the long run, what the Japanese did actually benefitted China. Like, they helped end Western colonialism in China, like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_International_Settlement basically ended during or directly after WWII. And China also got Taiwan back, despite that Japan was actually defeated by the US and Soviet Union, with China’s only having played a secondary role of resisting and tying down Japanese resources. I remember now visiting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_the_War_of_Chinese_People’s_Resistance_Against_Japanese_Aggression quite a while ago, when I actually knew very little about the actual history and background compared to now, which was full of horrific pictures depicting Japanese atrocities in China. The Chinese government likes to use this to motivate Chinese to fight to make their country better. Maybe it’s a bit misguided, especially in the long run. I was reading on Zhihu a comment by a Chinese mathematician who did graduate school in Russia and France that Chinese would be better off going to the white left holy mother land (Russia) or a Mongoloid country (Japan) than to America. Similarly, a Chinese political science professor believes that in, say, a decade’s time, Japan will pretty much accept China again and lose their sense of superiority on the basis of modernity. Maybe then, after some deals, China will replace that museum with an anti-Semitic one, and say that it’s in retaliation to the Victims of Communism Memorial in DC that Jews played a role in. And have in it something like 中国人团结一心在伟大的中国共产党领导下把可恶的犹太人亡族灭种!

  847. @annamaria

    This source, “Holocaust Denial on Trial” ( https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/af2-diary-authentic/), subtly contradicts your opinion on the alleged purity of the diary:
    “After WWII, Otto Frank compiled and edited Anne’s diary.”

    – What is not clear in this admission of editing by the most ardent defenders of the authenticity of the diary?

    What is not clear is that this is absolutely standard in the publishing industry. If you have ever written professionally you will know that every book is “edited” by its publisher. The purpose is usually to correct errors of grammar or style, remove repetition, etc. In addition, Otto Frank removed passages that his daughter wrote about her own sexuality, and embarrassing remarks about other family members. If you are concerned that somehow Anne Frank’s message was distorted, you can now buy the scholarly edition which includes the unedited text.

    The main point is, the use of the diary to promote the ideas of Jewish “incomparable sufferings” and “eternal victimhood” appears not just hypocritical but obscene in the context of the dangerous life of teenagers living in Gaza Ghetto today.

    But now you have changed the subject. Just because you do not like how the diary is used, does not mean that it is a forgery.

    Anne Frank was writing about her own family’s situation, and can hardly have been expected to write about the predicament of people 70 years later in a place 2,000 miles away!

    Who could take the promotion of the diary seriously when the Jewish State supplies Israel-made arms and weaponry to head-choppers of ISIS and to Ukrainian neo-Nazi?

    Is there any arms-manufacturing country whose weapons have not found their way into ISIS hands?

    If the Jewish Community worldwide wanted to defend the memory and honor of victims of the WWII, the excommunication of Nuland-Kagan and Bibi should be the first-order action.

    I too deplore the actions of Nuland, Kagan, and Bibi; but I fail to see how attacking the authenticity of Anne Frank’s diary is of any help in that regard.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @annamaria
  848. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @gmachine1729

    “Educated” and less educated people in the USA and in the western countries know that “Jews control both the financial and media worlds.”

    Very few people have the courage and are in position to say so. Mr Unz is an exception because he can afford it. Moral courage has a cost and unfortunately very few people can afford to pay it.

    “Major obstacle to that is too many of the political elites have assets and children overseas”

    China is the oldest and most ruthless meritocratic country in the world. Those children studying abroad won’t be part of Chinese elite because they failed to get into best universities in China. or maybe they will buy their ticket to get into the circle.

    “With America still a white-ruled, white-majority country …….but the problem is that the power and resources are still controlled by whites….”

    I think you’re wrong unless you consider Jews as being whites. As I said it’s better to see WASP as junior partners of the “Master Race”.

    “Obviously, to transfer resources from one’s main competitor to those who are weak is a very common method of strengthening and consolidating one’s own position.”

    That is true but in long run a system based on political considerations and nepotism is doomed.

    If the ” Master Race” doesn’t start the III WW, China will certainly be successful in building the BNW.

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
    , @Wally
  849. @anonymous

    Very few people have the courage and are in position to say so. Mr Unz is an exception because he can afford it. Moral courage has a cost and unfortunately very few people can afford to pay it.

    Lol, it takes that much courage to openly say it? What is there to lose? That Jews exert pressure to deny you career advancement? On this, I guess maybe whites have more to fear than Chinese do, because Chinese still have a China to go back to, and the career game in the US is pretty rigged against them anyway.

    China is the oldest and most ruthless meritocratic country in the world. Those children studying abroad won’t be part of Chinese elite because they failed to get into best universities in China. or maybe they will buy their ticket to get into the circle.

    Haha may I ask what is your background country and ethnicity wise? You overestimate meritocracy in China. There is nepotism too. Like, the kids of the political elite during Mao’s era that came back to power after he died mostly secured high up positions and wealth for themselves with the help of their parents.

    “Obviously, to transfer resources from one’s main competitor to those who are weak is a very common method of strengthening and consolidating one’s own position.”

    That is true but in long run a system based on political considerations and nepotism is doomed.

    Perhaps. How do you expect all the affirmative action/SJW/diversity crap to actually doom America in the long run? Even amidst all that, the serious STEM work and economic production still goes on.

    If the ” Master Race” doesn’t start the III WW, China will certainly be successful in building the BNW.

    Can you elaborate on this? How would the “Master Race” start WW III? And what “Brave New World” do you think China is trying to build.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  850. @Anon

    A subset that would become Sikhs moved down to India as mercenaries in the service of an Indian king at a certain point. The actual origin of Sikhs is thought to be the Volga River.

    The history of India is one of migration, was my point.

  851. Miro23 says:
    @gmachine1729

    Yes, the host of arguably the most prominent English news show in China can say

    The media and the republic go up and down together. The US has done this to the extreme, but Wall Street’s greed was not exposed because Jews control both the financial and media worlds. Why do the US media not dare to support the call for the establishment of a Palestinian state? It’s because they’re afraid of getting fired by their Jewish bosses. When I interviewed the chairman of the US Jewish Association, I questioned him on this. He snarled at me ferociously and said that in America, no one would dare to speak to him this way. He was like a mafia chief. So please stop saying how beautiful American press freedom is.

    And nobody will really care, because most educated people in China are well aware of this. This is not really “anti-Semitism,” more like aggressively questioning the ramifications of Jewish media and financial control in the US. I read the Chinese news a fair bit; for the most part, it’s far less “full of shit.” Much because the “educated” people have a much more accurate and knowledgeable view of history. Of course, Chinese themselves will sometimes engage in the aggressive ethnocentric, nationalistic, pro-communist type of trash talk; well, that kind of thing is natural for just about any major ethnically homogeneous country. I’m sure Russians have their own version of that. Same with Japanese. Germans, because of their past, have to be a bit more careful. Though I’m sure they also do the same amongst themselves in a more private setting.

    In any case, with regard to all the media smear on China in the US, it’s very easy for Chinese to identify Jews (who control the US media) as the root. 毛主席说过:世界上没有无缘无故的爱,也没有无缘无故的恨。(Translation: This world has no love without reason, and also no hate without reason.)

    Are the Chinese the only people left with a balanced public perspective of the US?

    “This is not really “anti-Semitism,” more like aggressively questioning the ramifications of Jewish media and financial control in the US.”

    “When I interviewed the chairman of the US Jewish Association, I questioned him on this. He snarled at me ferociously and said that in America, no one would dare to speak to him this way. He was like a mafia chief.”

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
  852. pogohere says: • Website
    @Anon

    Re: “The young Herbert Hoover, fresh out of college, was appointed by Schiff to travel the world, developing a report on bank reserves (in ground and bullion) of major nations. At the time all international settlements were in gold.”

    Do you have sources for Hoover’s connection to Schiff? I am looking just now at Vol 1 of Hoover’s memoirs (https://hoover.archives.gov/sites/default/files/research/ebooks/b1v1_full.pdf) and find no mention of Schiff or reports on bank reserves.

    Thanks

  853. Seraphim says:
    @James N. Kennett

    The diary of Anne Frank was part of the buildup of the “Shoah” narrative. Of the ‘Holocaust industry’.

  854. annamaria says:
    @James N. Kennett

    1. I agree that there are standards of the publishing industry and that some editions and additions in the diary are justified
    2. The diary has become a propaganda instrument — this is why there is any interest towards the diary at all
    3. The Israeli arm-manufacturers (with the blessing of Knesset) have been supplying Ukrainian neo-Nazi with Israel-made arms with the complete understanding of the arms’ destination: There was no accidental falling of Israeli arms into the neo-Nazi hands.

    The point 3 destroys the propaganda value of the diary. I agree with you that it has no sense to discuss the authenticity of the diary. The actions of the Jewish State and the Lobby, the extortions by the “holocaust victims,” and the imprisonment of the researchers who dared to question the official numbers, made any emotional references to Holocaust highly suspicious even for those who used to be moved by the narrative.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Bukowski
  855. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Nikki Haley looks like a Scythian.

    No she does not. The original Scythians looked like Anglos or Slavs. The Scythians who came to India mixed with the local women.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

    Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Scythians, even those in the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly “Europid” features, although mixed ‘Euro-mongoloid” phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[116]

    In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting European traits.[117] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[117] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[117][118] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[117][119] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[117] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterises the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[117][120] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][121] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterised by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[117] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[117][122] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[123] The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[124] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[117][125]

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  856. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Few Germans look Central Asian.

    The looks of Central Asians changed a lot after the Mongol Empire expansions.

    There were many light haired and light eyed looking people who lived in Central Asia in the past such as the Scythians, Alans, Cumans etc….

    Alans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans

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    The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2] Possibly related to the Massagetae, the Alans have been connected by modern historians with the Central Asian Yancai and Aorsi of Chinese and Roman sources, respectively.[6] Having migrated westwards and become dominant among the Sarmatians on the Pontic Steppe, they are mentioned by Roman sources in the 1st century AD.[1] At the time, they had settled the region north of the Black Sea and frequently raided the Parthian Empire and the Caucasian provinces of the Roman Empire.[1] In 215–250 AD, their power on the Pontic Steppe was broken by the Goths.

    The various forms of Alan – Greek: Ἀλανοί Alanoi; Chinese: 阿蘭聊 Alanliao (Pinyin) in the 2nd century,[11] 阿蘭 Alan in the 3rd century[12] and later Alanguo (阿蘭國)[13] – are derived from Iranian dialectal forms of Aryan.[2][14] This word was preserved in modern Ossetian language in form of Allon.[15][16] These and other variants of Aryan (such as Iran) were common self-designations of the Indo-Iranians, the common ancestors of the Indo-Aryans and Iranian peoples to whom the Alans belonged.
    …snip…
    The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans were tall, and blond:

    Nearly all the Alani are men of great stature and beauty; their hair is somewhat yellow, their eyes are terribly fierce.[57]

    Cumans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumans

    In East Slavic languages and Polish, they are known as the Polovtsy, derived from the Slavic root *polvъ “pale; light yellow; blonde”.[20][21]:43 Polovtsy or Polovec is often said to be derived from the Old East Slavic polovŭ (половъ) “yellow; pale” by the Russians – all meaning “blond”.[21] The old Ukrainian word polovtsy (Пóловці), derived from polovo “straw” – means “blond, pale yellow”. The western Cumans, or Polovtsy, were also called Sorochinetses by the Rus’, – apparently derived from the Turkic sary chechle“yellow-haired”. A similar etymology may have been at work in the name of the Sary people, who also migrated westward ahead of the Qun.[22][full citation needed] However, according to O. Suleymenov polovtsy may come from a Slavic word for “blue-eyed”, i.e. the Serbo-Croatian plȃv (пла̑в) means “blue”,[23] but this word also means “fair, blonde” and is in fact a cognate of the above; cf. Eastern Slavic polovŭ, Russian polóvyj (поло́вый), Ukrainian polovýj (полови́й).[24] An alternative etymology of Polovtsy is also possible: the Slavic root *pȍlje “field” (cf. Russian póle), which would therefore imply that Polovtsy were “men of the field” or “men of the steppe”.

    The Uighurs genetically plot in between North East Asians and Northern Europeans.

  857. Malla says:
    @Anon

    There are no Scythians. Those that did exist were in Central Asia (mostly).

    Well some of them conquerd India and intermarried with Indians. Indo Scythians or the Sacas. You think the Portuguese, French and the British were the first White people to conquer India.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Scythians

    The invasion of northern regions of the Indian subcontinent by Scythian tribes from Central Asia, often referred to as the Indo-Scythian invasion, played a significant part in the history of the Indian subcontinent as well as nearby countries. In fact, the Indo-Scythian war is just one chapter in the events triggered by the nomadic flight of Central Asians from conflict with tribes such as the Xiongnu in the 2nd century AD, which had lasting effects on Bactria, Kabul, and the Indian subcontinent as well as far-off Rome in the west, and more nearby to the west in Parthia.”

  858. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Out of curiosity, what makes you say that? Don’t Brahmins also have a very high percentage of R1a1 Y-DNA?

    Subcontinent and Iran, indeed this is a common theme of Indian history. The Aryans came about 1500 BC. There is no guarantee they were the first such people, others might have come before them. After them we have many more invaders coming from Central Asia becoming rulers of India. spreading their genes (access to more local women) but eventually getting absorbed by the larger brown melting pot agricultural populations around them, milk in the coffee and the coffee keeps getting lighter. Such invaders included the Scythians (Sacas), White Huns, Khambojas, Kushanas and even the Mughals came from Central Asia (they were Uzbek Mongols). Most of them were White Caucasoids, many even fully Nordic or Caucasoid Mongoloid hybrids (Mughals). So we had invaders coming from Central Asia becoming rulers of India, spreading their genes (access to more local women) but eventually getting absorbed by the larger brown mixed Caucasoid melting pot agricultural populations around them, milk in the coffee and the coffee keeps getting lighter.

    The first Mughal Emperor Babur looked Mongoloid

    [MORE]

    The Mughal Emperors married Royal Hindu Rajput women/Persian women and with time became brown Caucasoid in looks.

    Also let us not forget the Indo Greek kingdoms of North Western India.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek_Kingdom

    During the two centuries of their rule, the Indo-Greek kings combined the Greek and Indian languages and symbols, as seen on their coins, and blended Greek and Indian ideas, as seen in the archaeological remains.[10] The diffusion of Indo-Greek culture had consequences which are still felt today, particularly through the influence of Greco-Buddhist art.[11]. The ethnicity of the Indo-Greek may also have been hybrid to some degree. Euthydemus I was, according to Polybius,[12] a Magnesian Greek. His son, Demetrius I, founder of the Indo-Greek kingdom, was therefore of Greek ethnicity at least by his father. A marriage treaty was arranged for the same Demetrius with a daughter of the Seleucid ruler Antiochus III (who had some Persian descent).[13] The ethnicity of later Indo-Greek rulers is sometimes less clear.[14] For example, Artemidoros (80 BC) may have been of Indo-Scythian ascendency, although this is now disputed.[15]

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Anon
  859. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Sorry, in my last post, first part of it got deleted.

    There were several invasions and migrations from Central Asia into the Indian Subcontinent and Iran, indeed this is a common theme of Iranian and Indian history.

  860. Wally says:
    @annamaria

    said:
    “The Israeli arm-manufacturers (with the blessing of Knesset) have been supplying Ukrainian neo-Nazi with Israel-made arms with the complete understanding of the arms’ destination: There was no accidental falling of Israeli arms into the neo-Nazi hands. ”

    Indeed, an admission by Israel that ‘the Nazi holocaust’ is pure propaganda.

    Thanks.

    http://www.codoh.com

  861. Wally says:
    @anonymous

    Where did you get the phrase “Master Race” from?

    Certainly Hitler never said it.
    Please explain.

    Don’t take the bait.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @anonymous
  862. Wally says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Zionist Stryker said:

    “If Jews controlled Communism than why did Jews have such a rough experience under that system, was my point.”

    “Rough experience”?

    That’s laughable, they started & ran Communism.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  863. @Malla

    I’d be curious to know how much Dravidian she actually could possibly have. Maybe 20%?

    • Replies: @Malla
  864. @Wally

    I don’t care about Israel.

  865. @Miro23

    Are the Chinese the only people left with a balanced public perspective of the US?

    Heh, maybe, sometimes I do think to myself, “could it be that I’m the only one who’s still sane amidst the normalized insanity of American political correctness?” I do often feel like Chinese are politically way more realistic and clear-headed, but because the world still revolves around America, they’re pressured to play stupid too. Of course now that China is so much more powerful than before, they can go on their own terms more. Still, much cultural damage has already been done and will be difficult to reverse. It’s arguably the government and military organizations that’s been the most shielded from the toxicity of American liberalism. Those places seem to attract a very distinctive no-bullshit type of personality.

    Starting in late 2013, I fell in love with Soviet Red Army music. That’s of the highest artistic quality. I compiled a list recently: https://gmachine1729.com/lists-and-statistics/советские-песни/. Moreover, a genius Chinese music professor managed to sinicize the lyrics such that those songs sound authentically Chinese and are sung in Chinese translation ubiquitously. In that list, many of the music videos of those Soviet songs are made by him. The marriage between the classic footage and the lyrics is too perfect. As a representative example, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg8Zd-IPHYg. This song Moscow-Beijing was composed in honor of Mao’s visit to the USSR in 1950, and the video text says it won a second degree Stalin Prize in arts in 1951. Again, the style is unmatched, an inimitable mixture of beautiful and sinister.

    Is it just me, or is it really that the English language is literarily tasteless in comparison to Chinese and Russian? Hate to say it, but I do feel like the Anglos lack artistic taste and refinement. English poetry cannot compare, and the music kind of sucks too. I remember singing these American patriotic songs for Veterans Day, etc, and I used to actually enjoy that somewhat. Now I’ve exposed myself to so much better that

    sounds so bland and tasteless in comparison. Of course, Americans will still cheer at their own mediocre garbage, one because they’re Americans and also because they’re stuck in an English language bubble, a delusional world of American exceptionalism.

    Oh yeah, after I heard the Soviet/Russian stuff, I didn’t want to listen to Chinese red music anymore. Why? Because the Soviet music brought it to shame. Of course, that Chinese music has its own distinctive Chinese style but it still feels derivative. I might have changed my mind recently though. It might have had to do with my having watched a video of the military parade in honor of the 90th anniversary of the People’s Liberation Army. It was beautiful and the (instrumental) music was also quite good. Since yesterday was August 1st, I decided to find out the names of some of those songs, and it led me to a few videos of vocal performances of them that made a strong impression. I was super impressed by the combination of music, lyrics, choreography, and footage as well as the actual performance of it.

    In https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyfHr8nVFU, the singer is quite an alpha male. He’s so youthful and handsome, despite being already 60, not to mention his terrific voice. I know in the US, Chinese males are seen as beta and effeminate, well that guy sure isn’t, his genes are too good.
    Also http://haokan.baidu.com/v?pd=wisenatural&vid=10369015118233886667.
    And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjLDtBxgYIo.
    And a beautiful documentary made during the Mao era: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDhEPAvP7Xk.

    I made a list for these too: https://gmachine1729.com/lists-and-statistics/中国红歌/.

    The Chinese communists sure had literary/artistic/musical talent. Soviets did too. And many of their best composers were Jewish, which is not surprising at all. As “anti-Semitic” as I may appear, it’s mostly against the dark side; there is the pure creative genius side of the culture that I much admire. And Ron Unz, creator of this site, certainly fits into that category. ;)

  866. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @gmachine1729

    I don’t believe I “overestimate” meritocracy in China. If I do then the same criticism should be leveled against Ron. In his brilliant essay -The Myth of American Meritocracy-He proves that China’s meritocratic system has been kept “remarkably clean for 1300Years”, which of course doesn’t mean 0% nepotism, 0% corruption.

    We know who gave us the I WW and the II WW. The same people want to give us the III WW and certainly they will do it if they’re sure that they can win it and that most members of the tribe will survive.

    Propaganda about the new cold war is just that: Propaganda. We won’t have a war between America and Russia. Both countries are controlled by the same force.

    If we have a war, it will be the “west”/Russia against China. China is the perfect enemy.

    It will be very easy for the “Master Race” to convince the “civilized” world to fight against the “worst dictatorship”, the “yellow peril” etc…

    If I’m wrong and hope I’m wrong, then China will become the most powerful country in the world and the one with the more resources to build the BNW.

    And the BNW China is building is already there and is the BNW better described by Ted Kaczynski than Huxley.
    It’s not China’s fault. China was forced to compete to survive and if she doesn’t want to suffer again “100 years of humiliation” maybe she has no other alternative than to follow the religion of technological progress invented by the “barbarians”

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
    , @utu
  867. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    “Where did you get the phrase “Master Race” from?”

    I don’t know. But I believe that the “chosen people” consider themselves as the “Master Race “.

    No ?

    I’m sure you know I wasn’t talking about Hitler/Germans.

  868. @anonymous

    I don’t believe I “overestimate” meritocracy in China. If I do then the same criticism should be leveled against Ron. In his brilliant essay -The Myth of American Meritocracy-He proves that China’s meritocratic system has been kept “remarkably clean for 1300Years”, which of course doesn’t mean 0% nepotism, 0% corruption.

    In the long run, the imperial examination system proved disastrous for China. Because that system became so entrenched, China could not go beyond it. The best brains were wasted on poetry/literature/classics and government. So China could not develop any real science. China could not go beyond making some practical inventions and doing pre-modern engineering. I think superiority of Western civilization owes much to that the Greeks discovered and cultivated a tradition of axiomatic geometry that made possible the discovery of modern science, which China did not. The Chinese could calculate pi to 7 decimal places in the 5th century, but they never figured out how to think in the real rigorous scientific way.

    We know who gave us the I WW and the II WW. The same people want to give us the III WW and certainly they will do it if they’re sure that they can win it and that most members of the tribe will survive.

    Lol you blame both world wars on the Jews? You may be even more anti-Semitic than I am.

    Propaganda about the new cold war is just that: Propaganda. We won’t have a war between America and Russia. Both countries are controlled by the same force.

    Russia is controlled by Jews too?

    If we have a war, it will be the “west”/Russia against China. China is the perfect enemy.

    It will be very easy for the “Master Race” to convince the “civilized” world to fight against the “worst dictatorship”, the “yellow peril” etc…

    Lol really? I feel like Anglos hate Russians just as much or more, despite their both being white. In fact, somebody even says they’re judged more harshly for “human rights” and “democracy” because of that. (See https://gmachine1729.com/2018/06/14/on-russia-and-russians/.) Russia and China are very close now. China buys quite a bit of high-end military hardware from Russia and they also have the shared socialist heritage. Chinese eagerly sing Soviet songs in Chinese translation and have high respect for the culture.

    And the BNW China is building is already there and is the BNW better described by Ted Kaczynski than Huxley.
    It’s not China’s fault. China was forced to compete to survive and if she doesn’t want to suffer again “100 years of humiliation” maybe she has no other alternative than to follow the religion of technological progress invented by the “barbarians”

    Lol, what an odd perspective. The BNW of Ted Kaczynski? China has long fully embraced modern science and technology, and one could even say they are somewhat obsessed with it.

    As for “yellow peril,” where do you expect Japan to fit into the story? By your logic, Japan will eventually be on China’s side? Also, I’m very curious what your background is, ethnicity and country (of upbringing) wise, and also what you studied/do. To me, you have some rather strange ideas, and I want more clue as to where they’re coming from.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @anonymous
  869. dfordoom says: • Website
    @anonymous

    Yes, I’m. Both his parents are jewish.

    Do you have a source for the claim that both Jeremy Corbyn’s parents are Jewish?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  870. utu says:
    @anonymous

    All signs indicate that Russia will go with the West against China and the first step will be brining down Iran. The anti-Russian thing here is mostly a theater for the masses and also to create an alibi for those who are guiding/pushing Trump to make ‘right’ decisions.

    One thing I do not understand why China nuclear arsenal is so small? Are they building it up to catch up with Russia and the US?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  871. utu says:
    @gmachine1729

    Thanks that you brought up the axiomatic geometry of Euclid. The importance of it is too often under appreciated. Even Newton was not really getting it and the concepts of mathematically formal proofs.

  872. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @gmachine1729

    “The best brains were wasted on poetry/literature/classics and government.”

    You’re a believer in the new religion -“Progress”- and therefore for you “the best brains” should spend their time giving us more “Progress”.

    I’d like to suggest that you’re wrong. More: there is no such thing as “superiority of Western civilization” and the “Greek Miracle” wouldn’t have existed w/o the East .

    Once upon a time, “Wisdom” was considered as the most important thing. The Delphic oracle named Socrates as the wisest of all the Greeks.

    Because of the new religion, most people(I hope) would agree with Bertrand Russel “that although our age far surpasses all previous ages in knowledge, there has been no correlative increase in wisdom”.

    I’m not suggesting that we don’t need scientific and technical progress but it’s a tragedy that even the East seems more fanatic worshiper of the new religion than the West.

    The pursuit of wisdom, “with its concern for the meaning of life, with its search for ends, purposes and values worthy of being pursued, with its desire to penetrate beyond the appearance of things to their true reality” is something that the East could have contributed and helped to make the BNW more humane.

    “you blame both world wars on the Jews? “

    I don’t. Facts do. w/o American intervention in the IWW and IIWW both wars wouldn’t have been
    World Wars. It’s a fact that in both wars, American intervention was due to “jewish power”.

    “Russia is controlled by Jews too?”
    Probably more than America. In America at least you have some kind of freedom of expression and some people (Ron for example) can write about “jewish power”. In Russia, I don’t believe that is possible.

    The reason why people and “experts” are AGAIN buying this MIC’s lie about the new cold war is because of their ignorance and also because they are “educated” to believe in a “binary world”: good/evil, bad/good, left/right. And in the new cold war, Putin is for some the good guy, the savior of Christianity…blah..blah…

    “I feel like Anglos hate Russians just as much or more, despite their both being white.”

    Don’t believe propaganda. Russia is, always was, and will always be “The Best Enemy Money Can Buy”- Listen or read Antony C. Sutton.

    Read your article. Sorry it’s rubbish. It could have been written by “experts” like The Saker or PCR.
    You ask: “I don’t get it, why are Western liberals so intent on hating Russia, why why why? “

    Forget “western liberals”. They are “Useful Idiots”.

    Follow Occam’s razor. Do you believe the western Military Industrial Surveillance Complex can ask for more and more money for “security” w/o a “powerful enemy” ?

    “Russia and China are very close now.”
    No problem. China should do business with Russian and all other countries. But I sincerely hope Chinese elite won’t be so fool and trust Russia. That will be a tragedy for China and the word

    “where do you expect Japan to fit into the story? By your logic, Japan will eventually be on China’s side?”

    Japan is an honorary member of the club and the Japanese are considered as” honorary white”. Japan is of course is a vassal state. She will of course be in the same side as the other vassal states, France, The UK, Russia etc..

    Even Vietnam, won’t be in China’s side. That is really something I can’t understand. Well, I can guess why Vietnam would rather be on the “Master Race” side than China.
    It has to do with past humiliations, China’s arrogance….IMHO, this is one the main problem facing China. She has no allies, no friends, only business partners.
    Maybe it’s time for the Chinese elites to understand that money isn’t everything.

    “I’m very curious what your background is, ethnicity and country (of upbringing) wise, and also what you studied/do.”

    Why ? Is it really important to know the background, ethnicity and country (of upbringing), academic background, profession of someone before “judging” his/her arguments/ideas ?

    Again, I’d suggest you’re wrong. I’m interested in the truth: conventional and ultimate truth and I try not to be a “conditioned being”, so I almost never think about my background and never talk about it. It’s completely irrelevant.

    I’m also interested in Eugenics and this is the reason why I read your article.

  873. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    Yes, I do.

    In fact I learned that Jeremy Corbyn was a Jewish here (Unz).

    Mr BRETT REDMAYNE-TITLEY wrote : “Take Britain for example and its upstart parliamentary leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn. Despite being Jewish himself, the unabashed “Friends of Israel” coalition within the UK parliament….”
    Source: http://www.unz.com/article/correctly-defining-modern-zionism/

    Then I read this in wikipedia : He (Corbyn) is the youngest of the four sons of Naomi Loveday (née Josling; 1915–1987), a maths teacher, and David Benjamin Corbyn (1915–1986), an electrical engineer and expert in power rectifiers. His brother Piers Corbyn is a physicist and meteorologist.[9] His parents were peace campaigners who met in the 1930s at a committee meeting in support of the Spanish Republic at Conway Hall during the Spanish Civil War.[10][11][12]When Corbyn was seven years old, the family moved to Pave Lane in Shropshire, where his father bought Yew Tree Manor,

    Again: I think we are being unfair to consider Jeremy Corbyn as jewish. He doesn’t define himself as jewish. And he is certainly not a zionist.
    This is the reason why the zio fanatics want to destroy him and replace him with shabbos goy like Tony Blair or Theresa May.

  874. annamaria says:

    The Israeli “new hitlers” have received another reproach from the righteous:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49954.htm

    “Israel cannot claim a right to use any force in Gaza — whether moderate or excessive, proportionate or disproportionate; whether protesters are unarmed or armed, don’t or do pose an imminent threat to life. …
    To justify its use of force in Gaza, Israel claims the right to prevent alien intrusion into its sovereign territory. … If Israel wants to protect its border it merely has to lift the siege.
    … “Israel, as the occupying power must lift the blockade, which contravenes the Fourth Geneva Convention prohibiting collective penalties and prevents the realization of a broad range of human rights.”

  875. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Okay, most of that makes sense. I suppose I was thrown by your reference to the Buddha having Scythian ancestry though he seems too have been from one of the old Vedic clans, despite the name Sakya. I think the connection is probably doubtful given, among other things, the geographic location of his area compared to the later Sakas.

    • Replies: @Malla
  876. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    It’s good to know that not all Unz readers are buying this bs of cold war 2.

    “One thing I do not understand why China nuclear arsenal is so small? Are they building it up to catch up with Russia and the US?”

    I don’t know. Chinese elites are the best in the world but even very clever people can sometimes be very naîve. Let’s just hope that those who really matter in China are not buying this propaganda of cold war 2. You don’t need to be very clever to know that one can not trust the Russian elite and that the most corrupt people in the world belong to the highest echelon of the Russian elite. They work and they are friends with new Czar -Putin. The Chinese certainly know that.

  877. Miggle says:
    @jilles dykstra

    From Bernt Engelmann’s “In Hitler’s Germany” it appears that there was no Judeophobia in Germany outside Nazism, or a small group. He describes Jews fighting for Germany in WW1, among the most heroic and patriotic German troops. He describes high levels of intermarriage, a high level of integration generally, warm social relations between “non-Aryans”, meaning Jews and “Aryans”. Don’t take something called “Jewish Reactions to German Anti-Semitism” as an authority, particularly if it was written by a Jew. If there were occasional, rare, minor incidents, they would be blown up.

  878. Rurik says:
    @cassandra

    I’d heard about the organ trafficking (something else deserving the A word), but not the slavery, white or otherwise. A quick check suggests that it involves mostly prostitution, and that the US has similar rates. The question arises, since the oldest profession is legal in Israel, why isn’t the situation there similar to that in Holland, which isn’t so criticised. I’d be interested in reading more if you have a few links.

    I got very far behind in my replies.

    Police have cracked what they say is Israel’s largest human-trafficking ring, allegedly responsible for smuggling thousands of women from the former Soviet Union into Israel, as well as Cyprus, Belgium and England, and forcing them into prostitution.

    Police say the women were forced to work as prostitutes, and any who sought to escape or inform the authorities suffered vicious reprisals. The gang allegedly even arranged a fatal hit-and-run accident in Uzbekistan a few months ago, involving a woman who did escape.

    >>><<>><<<

    "The suspects essentially went on a shopping spree for women throughout the former Soviet Union," he said. "We are talking about over 2,000 women who, we suspect, were forced to work as prostitutes via threats and violence, in Israel and Cyprus and, later, in Belgium and England as well."

    https://www.haaretz.com/1.5085272

    from what I understand, slavery is legal in Israel provided the slave is not Jewish.

    But the trafficking and abuse of these European and Russian girls is looked down upon by many Israeli women, who don’t approve of their men cavorting with these girls, so occasionally there’s a crack down on some of it.

    Just because Israel treats Palestinians abominably, we shouldn’t assume that Palestinians intrinsically hold some high moral ground,

    unless the behavior in question, (violent resistance to genocide and repression) is what the Palestinians are doing. They have every right, if not duty- to resist their genocide and occupation.

  879. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    to intensely interrogate the predictively accurate-makers of “The Lone Gunman”?

    Hey Brother Chuck,

    well, as much as it’d be great to know where they got their idea for the movie, I’d still prefer to interrogate Dov Zakheim about 9/11, if anyone.

    keep on keeping on Brother!

    • Agree: cassandra
  880. Malla says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Maybe. People in the North Western parts of the Indian subcotinent are more Caucasoid.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  881. Malla says:
    @Anon

    Actually this site makes some good arguments of Buddha’s Scythian ancestry.

    “Firstly, this is because the Indo-Aryan peoples of 2000 BCE brought to India in the Vedic religion basic concepts held by the steppe nomads which, together with Indian animism, led to Hinduism and Buddhism. Secondly, it is because tribes of, or related to the Saka group repeatedly invaded India from 2000 BCE onwards, so spreading their culture from the kingdoms and republics they established in India and thus leading to the flowering of stone architectural animal art in India from about the 2nd century BCE.

    [MORE]

    The Saka influence on animal art appears to have flowed round both sides of the Tibet plateau and converged on southeast Asia.”

    ..snip…

    “The persistence of the word ‘Saka’ in various forms in India and Burma is noteworthy. Sakka is another name of Indra, the Indo-Aryan and Hindu god. Saka is the name of the group of tribes of which the Scythians were one. The Sakas, ‘people of the stag,’ are associated with the animal symbols of the chakravartin, (universal ‘wheel-turning’ sovereign). Gautama Buddha was the Sakyamuni, the sage of the Sakyas.”

    …snip…

    “The lion is among the figurines created by the people of the Indus valley civilizations about 2000 BCE, though it does not become a frequently used motif, at least in durable material, until it was adopted by the Buddhists about the 3rd century BCE when it looks distinctly west Asian or perhaps Persian. The adoption of the lion motif instead of the tiger may have been because the Buddhists needed a royal symbol without the ferocious or steppe nomad association of the tiger, the emblem of the warrior caste into which Gautama Buddha was born.”

    …snip….

    “The Neolithic religions of the Eurasian agriculturalists appear to have been characterized by a belief in earth gods, i.e. those of the earth as a whole, of the soil and of the underworld. This belief is expressed most obviously in the forms of earth mounds, sometimes capped by stones, megaliths, dolmens, menhirs, small stone pyramids and other structures. Such occur in Central Asia, Tibet, Mongolia, Assam, Orissa, Southeast Asia, etc. Later the belief was expressed in the form of pillars in India, Yunnan and Vietnam, as stupas in much of the same region and, in Southeast Asia, as temples intended to represent mountains, e.g. many Khmer temples. The natural, or man-made, elevations seems to have been regarded as a substitute for the body of the local earth god (and later for the tribe itself symbolized through the ancestors of the rulers) within which was concentrated the power of the deity, a capping stone often serving to concentrate the power still more effectively.”

    …snip…

    “In Hindu-Buddhist cosmogony there are 33 gods who reside on the summit of Mount Meru, among whom Indra (Sakka) is king. In Central Asia the people of the Altai mountains have a belief in 33 heavens. In the 7th century BCE Saka-Siberian burial site of Tuva, just east of the Altai mountains, the chief’s tomb comprises a large central mound surrounded by a stone wall 44 meters away. The annulus so-formed is separated into sections by 32 radial spokes built of stones bearing incised depictions of horses. This is a temple of the sun. The number of 32 appears also as that of the number of bodily marks of the chakravartin. There seems to be good reason to think that the 32 fiefdoms of the chakravartin are derived from the solar cult of the Indo-Aryans and reached Burma through the Sakas.”

    ….snip….

    “The Aryan invasion of Persia and India of about 2000 BCE introduced the Vedic religion. The descendants of the Aryans and the Saka/Scythians (sun and snake worshippers) became allies perhaps before 700 BCE, the Sakas becoming known as ‘the serpent’ or naga race, while the naga itself became one of the most important associates of the Brahmanic, Hindu and Buddhist pantheons. According to the Indian Puranas, Gautama Buddha originated from the solar race of Iskshvahu and at the commencement of his ascetic life, he was protected by the naga king. Tombs of Gautama’s own Sakya tribe, excavated in the 19th century, each contained an effigy of a naga.”

    • Replies: @Malla
  882. Malla says:
    @Malla

    More from the site

    “There are indications that a branch of the Scythian hordes, who overran Asia about 625 B.C., made its way to Patala on the Indus, the site selected by Alexander in 325 B.C. as his place of arms in that delta, and long the capital of Sindh under the name of Haidarabad. One portion of these Patala Scythians seems to have moved westwards by the Persian Gulf to Assyria; another section is supposed to have found its way northeast into the Gangetic valley, and branched off into the Sakyas of Kapilavastu, among whom the Buddha was born. ”

    “During the two hundred years before the Christian era, the Scythic movements come a little more clearly into sight, and in the first century after Christ those movements culminate in a great Indian sovereignty. About 126 B.C., the Tartar tribe of Su are said to have conquered the Greek dynasty of Bactria, and the Graeco-Bactrian settlements in the Punjab were overthrown by the Tue-Chi, [Yuezhi].”

    ” But long anterior to the alleged Tue-Chi settlements in the Punjab, tribes of Scythic origin had found their way into India, and had left traces of non-Aryan origin upon Indian civilization. The sovereignty of Kanishka in the first century A.D. was not an isolated effort, but the ripened fruit of a series of ethnical movements.”

    • Replies: @Mark99
  883. @Malla

    Kashmiri are Dravidian? that’s a stretch.

    • Replies: @Malla
  884. Bukowski says:
    @annamaria

    Otto Frank is now being called the “co author” of the diary. I don’t think the main reason for the continued promotion of this book is holocaust propaganda I would say the bottom line is making money.

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9924

  885. kgbgb says:
    @Anon

    Occidental Observer has a series of articles on the pogroms and the extent to which the reports were, or were not, based on fact. They start at

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/05/08/revisiting-the-19th-century-russian-pogroms-part-1-russias-jewish-question/

    I have not finished reading them, but I think they give details of the British government’s attempts to verify the reports, and their largely negative results.

  886. @TomSchmidt

    Keen insight, and a great book. Thanks.

    Revival of Silk Road, OBOR, is setting the successor to the British empire into the same murderous rage.
    Fruit does not fall far from the tree.

  887. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    woe is ye, Tyrion 2

    This organization does not exist:

    https://www.conferenceofpresidents.org

    neither does this one:

    http://www.wzo.org.il/world-zionist-organization

    nor this:

    http://jppi.org.il/new/en/

    Strategy and planning are carried out on a heater-skelter basis by this institute with “no plan at all and things are just going to keep happening,”

    https://edirc.repec.org/data/crihuil.html

    headed by this scatter-brained non-entity:

    https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/laureates/2005/aumann-bio.html

    “After all, if someone was in charge, we would at least be assured there was some sort of light at the end of the tunnel — even if it wasn’t one we were going to like.”

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  888. Tyrion 2 says:
    @anonymous

    I don’t understand your post. That is, what are you trying to tell me?

  889. In light of the Soviet claims about Auschwitz it is interesting to learn that the Bolsheviks used poison gas and concentration camps during the the Tambov rebellion:

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Tambov_Rebellion

  890. @Jon Halpenny

    Unfortunately, Russia didn’t actually get Constantinople. Such bad luck. Maybe next time. Sorry for all your losses in the war.

  891. @Paw

    You may like this?

    Conjuring Hitler: How Britain and America Made the Third Reich
    By Guido Giacomo Preparata

  892. @Old fogey

    “Taken together, these four volumes constitute an extraordinary commentary on a basic weakness in the Soviet system
    The Soviets are heavily dependent on Western technology and innovation not only in their civilian industries, but also in their military programs.
    An inevitable conclusion from the evidence in this book is that we have totally ignored a policy that would enable us to neutralize Soviet global ambitions while simultaneously reducing the defense budget and the tax load on American citizens.”

    http://www.crowhealingnetwork.net/pdf/Antony%20Sutton%20-%20The%20Best%20Enemy%20Money%20Can%20Buy.pdf

  893. Jason1 says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Force?

    Do Jews not all believe in the same eschatology by virtue of ethnically self-identifying as Jewish?

    To be a Jew means to believe in Jewish destiny.

    To believe in Jewish destiny is to believe that within about 250 years, at maximum, there will be the equivalent of a Jewish Messiah, Jews will not work in Israel, will receive offerings from all other nations, will oversee courts throughout world through the Sanhedrin, all non-Jews will be ejected from Israel, and all nations will essentially be destroyed as separate peoples.

    And I’m quite sure that I’m underselling the actual beliefs.

    That is the eschatology that all Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform Jews believe in: all Zionists and supposed anti-Zionists. If they are Jewish. There is no other point to Jewish ethnicity other than these beliefs. This is the core of Judaism.

    I’m sure that if you looked hard enough you could find a Jew who doesn’t know much, or one who thinks that a Jew can legitimately oppose this, but the vast majority of Jews believe in this endpoint as the core of their Jewish identity. Because it defines Jewish identity.

  894. Mark99 says:
    @Malla

    Gautam Buddha himself had Scythian ancestry from his male side.

    I don’t doubt this, if he existed. Whether he was invented or he existed, his origin as a Scythian would be consistent with the heavy Greek promotion of Buddhism against the Vedic culture.

    Both the Greeks and the Saka were aligned against the Vedic peoples (Kuru, etc).

    It was said, by the Vedic people, that the Saka and Greeks (Yona) were degraded Kshatriyas who were so because they had neglected to perform the Vedic rights. They were both were seen as Mleccha (degenerate outsider), and said to live like Dasas (slaves). I think that the Vedic peoples considered them both degraded due to race mixing (no doubt, standards for this were higher back then).

    One of the Saka Royal clans, the Kambojas, is often cited by the Vedic people as specifically difficult.

    I believe that the Vedic people, and especially the Kuru, were about as pure unmixed human (Cro Magnid) as it got in Central Asia at the time: likely resembling modern Swedes (all with some minor outbreeding).

    In Finnish, “Hurri” means “Swede”. The Hurrians are associated with the Kurds.

    The Sakas and the Greeks, I believe, both originated from Anatolia.

    I believe that the Sakas were likely formed from a Hittite (having Mongolian admixture) union with a Hurrian Indo-Aryan elite. The Hurrian society is notorious for being two tiered, with the elite speaking an Indo Aryan language while the commoners spoke another.

    In fact, the Hurrian (non elite) people may have eventually come to be represented by the people of the Hurrian Hittite admixture, with (very consistently)an Indo-Aryan elite as their rulers. The Hurrian underclass eventually formed the Saka. Though, I admit that this is only a very loose theory.

    The Hurrian elite were probably about as unmixed as the Kuru, and were citing Vedic Gods in recorded treaties at the same time that the Vedic culture arrived in India.

    This union of Hurrian Elites and Mongol Hittites, to make Saka, would have made the biblical Abraham (as an actual figure or allegory) the representative Saka Patriarch. It is said by the Jews that he was the product of the union between the Hurrians and Hittites. This Saka admixture would also represent the general admixture for modern Celtic peoples (Aryan genetics with distant Mongolian admixture for a portion of them, and little to no Caucaus Neanderthal admixture except in the lower classes).

    According to he Biblical account, the Greeks descended from Abraham as “Javan” son of Japheth.

    The other two primary lines (other than Japheth) are Shem, represented mostly by the Jews, and Ham represented mostly by Egypt.

    I think that it would be legitimate to state that, in a wide historical context, the three primary children of Abraham are the Jews, the Greeks, and the Egyptians (who were more politically important at the time).

    My suspicion is that some Jews have a degree of Indian dravidic blood (note the black beards and hair) in addition to Caucasian Neanderthal blood, which separates them from Greeks. But, also, a lot of them would perfectly resemble and be almost genetically indistinguishable from ancient Greeks. Others, perhaps such as the true Ashkenazim, likely are more like the original result of the Hittie-Hurrian union (thus resembling Saka).

    I think that the Greeks were the result of the original Hittite / Hurrian mixture, with the addition of Caucasian Neanderthal admixture that they picked up somewhere in Anatolia / the Caucus / or the Levant. Thus separating them from the Saka. The Greeks later came to dominate Western Anatolia.

    Getting back to Buddha: The Greeks pushed Buddhism on India with military fervor. I believe that this was to undermine the strong, military, and socially demarcated Vedic culture to allow for the “dasa” outsider to penetrate over time: because they could not win long term with a head on attack.

    It worked, or at least it likely greatly helped. Buddhism was huge in India (much more so that today) before Islam came, and interestingly the last holdouts were in Bengal, the region of Kali worship (the goddess of destruction and the Kali Yuga) and “Indian enlightenment culture”.

    See:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism

    Buddhism prospered under the Indo-Greek kings, and it has been suggested that their invasion of India was intended to protect the Buddhist faith from the religious persecutions of the Shungas (185–73 BC), who had overthrown the Mauryans.

    This constant hostility of the Greeks, Saka, and other related “dasa” tribes may have even been a representative continuation of a possible prior rebellion of the lower Hurrian caste (or its equivalent and and all of its subsequent races) against the higher. Of course, the Vedic peoples also realized difficulties from surrounding Turks / Mongol tribes. I’m not trying to oversimplify this too much.

    Considering that it is somewhat obvious that Buddhism was intentionally used by the Greeks to weaken Vedic India, this takes on new context considering how the Frankish King (who was liked with Rome and is people) used Christianity against the other German tribes (most notably the Saxons):

    Buddhism and Christianity
    Main articles: Buddhism and Christianity and Buddhist influences on Christianity
    Queen Māyā’s white elephant dream, and the conception of the Buddha. Gandhara, 2nd–3rd century AD.

    Although the philosophical systems of Buddhism and Christianity have evolved in rather different ways, the moral precepts advocated by Buddhism from the time of Ashoka through his edicts do have some similarities with the Christian moral precepts developed more than two centuries later: respect for life, respect for the weak, rejection of violence, pardon to sinners, tolerance.

    One theory is that these similarities may indicate the propagation of Buddhist ideals into the Western World, with the Greeks acting as intermediaries and religious syncretists.[43]

    “Scholars have often considered the possibility that Buddhism influenced the early development of Christianity. They have drawn attention to many parallels concerning the births, lives, doctrines, and deaths of the Buddha and Jesus” (Bentley, Old World Encounters).

    The story of the birth of the Buddha was well known in the West, and possibly influenced the story of the birth of Jesus: Saint Jerome (4th century AD) mentions the birth of the Buddha, who he says “was born from the side of a virgin,”[44] and the influential early Christian church father Clement of Alexandria (died AD 215) mentioned Buddha (Βούττα) in his Stromata (Bk I, Ch XV). The legend of Christian saints Barlaam and Josaphat draws on the life of the Buddha.

  895. @Dan Hayes

    Mr Unz is a brilliant intellect and is doing a fine job for us all

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  896. Da Wei says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    This, from Douglas Reed’s the Controversy of Zion, Bridger House, p. 274 and 275,
    about Robert Wilton:

    “Educated in Russia, he knew the country and its language perfectly, and was held in high esteem by the Russians and the British Embassy alike. He watched the rioting from the window of The (London) Times office, adjoining the Prefecture where the ministers of the collapsing regime took refuge. Between the advent of the Kerensky government in the spring of 1917 and the seizure of power by the Bolsheviks in November 1917, his duty was to report an entirely new phenomenon on world affairs: the rise of a Jewish regime to despotic supremacy in Russia and to overt control of the world-revolution. At that moment he was made to realize that he would not be allowed faithfully to report the fact.
    The secret story is told, with surprising candour, in the Official History of his paper, The (London) Times, published in 1952. It shows the hidden mechanism which operated, as early as 1917, to prevent the truth about the revolution reaching the peoples of the West.” …
    “The interregnum of five months began, during which a Jewish regime was to take over from Kerensky. At this very moment his newspaper lost ‘confidence’ in Mr. Wilton. Why? The explanation emerges. The Official History of The Times says, ‘It was not happy for Wilton that one of his messages …should spread to Zionist circles, and even to the Foreign Office, the idea that he was an anti-semite.”…
    “Mr. Wilton was reporting the nature of the coming regime; this was his job. In the opinion of ‘Zionists’ this was ‘anti-semitism.’”

    The London Times fired Robert Wilton for fear that Jews would be offended by the truth he wrote. Later, the same happened to Douglas Reed.

    These days, the world sees truth so threatens official Jewry that seeking it will land you in jail, or worse.

    6 million? Really?

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