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The death of Sen. John McCain last August revealed some important truths about the nature of our establishment media.

McCain’s family had released word of his incurable brain cancer many months earlier and his passing at age 84 was long expected, so media outlets great and small had possessed all the time necessary for producing and polishing the packages they eventually published, and that was readily apparent from the voluminous nature of the tributes that they ran. The New York Times, still our national newspaper of record, allocated more than three full pages of its printed edition to the primary obituary, and this was supplemented by a considerable number of other articles and sidebars. I cannot recall any political figure other than an American president whose passing had ever received such an enormous wealth of coverage, and perhaps even some former residents of the Oval Office might have fallen short of that standard. Although I certainly didn’t bother reading all of the tens of thousands of words in the Times or my other newspapers, the coverage of McCain’s life and career seemed exceptionally laudatory across the mainstream media, liberal and conservative alike, with scarcely a negative word appearing anywhere outside the political fringe.

On the face of it, such undiluted political love for McCain might seem a bit odd to those who have followed his activities over the last couple of decades. After all, the Times and most of the other leading lights of our media firmament are purportedly liberal and claim to have become vehement critics of our disastrous Iraq War and other military adventures, let alone the calamitous possibility of an attack upon Iran. Meanwhile, McCain was universally regarded as the leading figure in America’s “War Party,” eagerly supporting all prospective and retrospective military endeavors with gleeful fury, and even making his chant of “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran” the most widely remembered detail of his unsuccessful 2008 presidential campaign. So either our major media outlets somehow overlooked such striking differences on an absolutely central issue, or perhaps their true positions on certain matters are not exactly what they seem to be, and merely constitute elements of a Kabuki-performance aimed at deceiving their more naive readers.

Even more remarkable were the discordant facts airbrushed out of McCain’s history.

As the winner of the Pulitzer Prize and two George Polk awards, the late Sydney Schanberg was widely regarded as one of the greatest American war correspondents of the twentieth century. His exploits during our ill-fated Indo-Chinese War had become the basis of the Oscar-winning film The Killing Fields, which probably established him as the most famous journalist in America after Woodward and Bernstein of Watergate fame, and he had also served as a top editor at The New York Times. A decade ago, he published his greatest expose, providing a mountain of evidence that America had deliberately left behind hundreds of POWs in Vietnam and he fingered then-presidential candidate John McCain as the central figure in the later official cover-up of that monstrous betrayal. The Arizona senator had traded on his national reputation as our best-known former POW to bury the story of those abandoned prisoners, permitting America’s political establishment to escape serious embarrassment. As a result, Sen. McCain earned the lush rewards of our generous ruling elites, much like his own father Admiral John S. McCain, Sr., who had led the cover-up of the deliberate 1967 Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty, which killed or wounded over 200 American servicemen.

As publisher of The American Conservative, I ran Schanberg’s remarkable piece as a cover story, and across several websites over the years it has surely been read many hundreds of thousands of times, including a huge spike around the time of McCain’s death. I therefore find it rather difficult to believe that the many journalists investigating McCain’s background might have remained unaware of this material. Yet no hints of these facts were provided in any of the articles appearing in any remotely prominent media outlets as can be seen by searching for web pages containing “McCain and Schanberg” dated around the time of the Senator’s passing.

Schanberg’s journalistic stature had hardly been forgotten by his former colleagues. Upon his death a couple of years ago, the Times ran a very long and glowing obituary, and a few months later I attended the memorial tribute to his life and career held at the New York Times headquarters building, which more than two hundred prominent journalists mostly from his own generation, including those of the highest rank. Times Publisher Arthur Sulzberger, Jr. gave a speech describing how as a young man he had always so greatly admired Schanberg and had been mortified by the unfortunate circumstances of his departure from the family’s newspaper. Former Executive Editor Joseph Lelyveld recounted the many years he had worked closely with the man he had long considered his closest friend and colleague, someone whom he almost seemed to regard as his older brother. But during the two hours of praise and remembrance scarcely a single word was uttered in public about the gigantic story that had occupied the last two decades of Schanberg’s celebrated career.

This same blanket of media silence also enveloped the very serious accusations regarding McCain’s own Vietnam War record. A few years ago, I drew upon the Times and other fully mainstream sources to strongly suggest that McCain’s stories of his torture as a POW were probably fictional, invented to serve as a cover and an excuse for the very real record of his wartime collaboration with his Communist captors. Indeed, at the time our American media reported his activities as one of the leading propagandists of our North Vietnamese foes, but these facts were later flushed down the memory-hole. McCain’s father then ranked as one of America’s top military officers, and it seems likely that his personal political intervention ensured that the official narrative of his son’s wartime record was transmuted from traitor to war-hero, thereby allowing the younger McCain to later embark upon his celebrated political career.

 

The story of the abandoned Vietnam POWs and McCain’s own Communist propaganda broadcasts hardly exhaust the catalog of the major skeletons in the late Senator’s closet. McCain was regularly described by reporters as being remarkably hot-headed and having a violent temper, but the national press left it to the alternative media to investigate the real-life implications of those rather suggestive phrases.

In a September 1, 2008 Counterpunch expose later published online, Alexander Cockburn reported that interviews with two emergency room physicians in Phoenix revealed that around the time that McCain was sucked into the political maelstrom of the Keating Five Scandal, his wife Cindy was admitted to her local hospital suffering from a black eye, facial bruises, and scratches consistent with physical violence, and this same situation occurred two additional times over the next few years. Cockburn also noted several other highly suspicious marital incidents during the years that followed, including the Senator’s wife appearing with a bandaged wrist and her arm in a sling not long after she joined her husband on the 2008 campaign trail, an injury reported by our strangely incurious political journalists as being due to “excessive hand-shaking.” It’s an odd situation when a tiny leftist newsletter can easily uncover facts that so totally eluded the vast resources of our entire national press corps. If there were credible reports that Melania Trump had been repeatedly admitted to local emergency rooms suffering from black eyes and facial bruises, would our corporate media have remained so uninterested in any further investigation?

McCain had first won his Arizona Congressional seat in 1982, not long after he moved into the state, with his campaign bankrolled by his father-in-law’s beer-distributorship fortune, and that inheritance eventually elevated the McCain household into one of the wealthiest in the Senate. But although the Senator spent the next quarter-century in public life, even nearly upsetting George W. Bush for the 2000 Republican presidential nomination, only in late 2008 did I learn from the Times that the Phoenix beer-monopoly in question, then valued at around $200 million, had accrued to a man whose lifelong business partner Kemper Marley had long been deeply linked to organized crime. Indeed, close associates of that latter individual had been convicted by a jury of the car-bomb assassination of a Phoenix investigative crime reporter just a few years before McCain’s sudden triumphal entrance into Arizona politics. Perhaps such guilt-by-association is improper, but would our national press-corps have remained silent if the personal fortune of our current president were only a step or two removed from the car-bomb assassins of a nosy journalist who died while investigating mobsters?

As I gradually became aware of these enormities casually hidden in McCain’s background, my initial reaction was disbelief that someone whose record was so deeply tarnished in so many different ways could ever have reached such a pinnacle of American political power. But as the media continued to avert its eyes from these newly revealed facts, even those disclosed in the pages of the Times itself, I gradually began to consider matters in a different light. Perhaps McCain’s elevation to great American political power was not in spite of the devastating facts littering his personal past, but because of them. As I wrote a few years ago:

Today when we consider the major countries of the world we see that in many cases the official leaders are also the leaders in actuality: Vladimir Putin calls the shots in Russia, Xi Jinping and his top Politburo colleagues do the same in China, and so forth. However, in America and in some other Western countries, this seems to be less and less the case, with top national figures merely being attractive front-men selected for their popular appeal and their political malleability, a development that may eventually have dire consequences for the nations they lead. As an extreme example, a drunken Boris Yeltsin freely allowed the looting of Russia’s entire national wealth by the handful of oligarchs who pulled his strings, and the result was the total impoverishment of the Russian people and a demographic collapse almost unprecedented in modern peacetime history.

An obvious problem with installing puppet rulers is the risk that they will attempt to cut their strings, much like Putin soon outmaneuvered and exiled his oligarch patron Boris Berezovsky. One means of minimizing such risk is to select puppets who are so deeply compromised that they can never break free, knowing that the political self-destruct charges buried deep within their pasts could easily be triggered if they sought independence. I have sometimes joked with my friends that perhaps the best career move for an ambitious young politician would be to secretly commit some monstrous crime and then make sure that the hard evidence of his guilt ended up in the hands of certain powerful people, thereby assuring his rapid political rise.

 

In physics, when an object deviates from its expected trajectory for inexplicable reasons, we assume that some unknown force has been at work, and tracing the record of such deviations may help to determine the characteristic properties of the latter. Over the years, I’ve increasingly become aware of such strange ideological deviations in public policy, and although some are readily explained, others suggest the existence of hidden forces far beneath the surface of our regular political world. This same situation may have occurred throughout our history, and sometimes the political decisions that so baffled contemporaries eventually came to light decades later.

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In The Dark Side of Camelot, famed investigative reporter Seymour Hersh claimed that secret blackmail evidence of JFK’s extra-marital affairs probably played a crucial role in having his administration overrule the unanimous verdict of all top Pentagon advisors and award the largest military procurement contract in U.S. history to General Dynamics instead of Boeing, thereby saving the former company from likely bankruptcy and its major organized-crime shareholders from devastating financial losses. Hersh also suggests that a similar factor likely explains JFK’s last-minute reversal in the choice of his Vice President, a decision that landed Lyndon Johnson on the 1960 ticket and placed him in the White House after Kennedy’s 1963 assassination.

As I recently mentioned, in the 1950s Sen. Estes Kefauver shifted the focus of his Organized Crime Hearings after the Chicago Syndicate confronted him with the photographs of his sexual encounter with two mob-supplied women. A decade later, California Attorney-General Stanley Mosk suffered much the same fate, with the facts remaining hidden for over twenty years.

Similar rumors swirl around events much farther back in history as well, sometimes with enormous consequences. Well-placed contemporary sources have claimed that Samuel Untermyer, a wealthy Jewish lawyer, purchased the secret correspondence between Woodrow Wilson and his longtime mistress, and that the existence of that powerful leverage may have been an important factor behind Wilson’s astonishingly rapid rise from president of Princeton in 1910 to governor of New Jersey in 1911 to president of the United States in 1912. Once in office, Wilson signed the controversial legislation establishing the Federal Reserve system in 1913 and also named Louis Brandeis as the first Jewish member of the U.S. Supreme Court despite the public opposition of nearly our entire legal establishment. Wilson’s swiftly changing views on American involvement in the First World War may also have influenced by such personal pressures rather than solely determined by his perceptions of the national interest.

Without naming any names, since 2001 it has been difficult to avoid noticing that one of the most zealous and committed supporters of the Neocon party-line on all Middle Eastern foreign policy matters has been a leading Republican senator from one of the most socially-conservative Southern states, a man whose rumored personal inclinations have long circulated on the Internet. The strikingly-sudden reversal of this individual on a major policy question certainly supports these suspicions. There have also been several other such examples involving prominent Republicans.

But consider the far different situation of Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, who in 1987 became the first member of the Congress to voluntarily admit that he was gay. Not long afterward, a notorious scandal erupted when it was revealed that his own DC townhouse had been used by a former boyfriend as headquarters for a male-prostitution ring. Frank claimed to have had no knowledge of that sordid situation, and his liberal Massachusetts constituents apparently accepted that, since he was resoundingly reelected and went on to serve another 24 years in Congress. But surely if Frank had been a Republican from a socially-conservative district, anyone possessing such evidence would have totally controlled his political survival, and with Frank spending several years as Chairman of the very powerful House Financial Services Committee, the value of such a hold would have been enormous.

This demonstrates the undeniable reality that what constitutes effective blackmail material may vary tremendously across different eras and regions. Today, it is widely accepted that longtime FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover lived his life as a deeply-closeted homosexual and there seem to be serious claims that he also had some black ancestry, with the secret evidence of these facts probably helping to explain why for decades he stubbornly refused to admit the existence of American organized crime or focus his G-men on efforts to uproot it. But in today’s America, he surely would have proudly proclaimed his sexuality and racial ancestry in an New York Times Magazine cover-story, rightly believing that they enhanced his political invulnerability on the national stage. There are lurid rumors that the Syndicate possessed secret photos of Hoover wearing a dress and high-heels, but just a few years ago Rep. Mike Honda of San Jose desperately placed his eight-year-old transgendered grand-daughter front-and-center in his unsuccessful attempt to win reelection.

 

The decades have certainly softened the effectiveness of many forms of blackmail, but pedophilia still ranks as an extremely powerful taboo. There seems to be a great deal of evidence that powerful organizations and individuals have successfully managed to suppress credible accusations of that practice for very long periods of time if no group with substantial media influence chose to target the offenders for unmasking.

The most obvious example is the Catholic Church, and the failings of its American and international hierarchy in that regard have regularly made the front pages of our leading newspapers. But until the early 2000s and the breakthrough reporting of the Boston Globe as recounted in the Oscar-winning film Spotlight, the Church had routinely fended off such scandals.

Consider also the remarkable case of British television personality Sir Jimmy Savile, one of his country’s most admired celebrities, eventually knighted for his public service. Only shortly after his death at age 84 did the press begin revealing that he had probably molested many hundreds of children during his long career. Accusations by his young victims had stretched back across forty years, but his criminal activities had seemingly been protected by his wealth and celebrity, along with his numerous supporters in the media.

There is also the intriguing example of Dennis Hastert. As the longest serving Republican Speaker of the House in U.S. history, holding office during 1999-2007, Hastert was third in line to the Presidency and even ranked as our nation’s top Republican elected official during some of that period. Based upon my newspaper readings, he had always struck me as a rather bland and ordinary individual, with journalists sometimes even strongly hinting at his mediocrity, so that I occasionally wondered just how someone so unimpressive could have risen to such extremely high national office.

Then a few years ago, he was suddenly thrust back into the headlines, arrested by the FBI and charged with financial crimes relating to what apparently had been his past history of abusing young boys, at least one of whom had committed suicide, with the federal judge who sent him to prison denouncing him as “a serial child molester” at sentencing. Perhaps I’ve led an overly sheltered life, but my impression is that only a tiny sliver of Americans have had a long record of child molestation, and all things being equal, it seems rather unlikely that someone of such a background but who possesses no other great talents or skills would rise to near the absolute top of our political heap. So perhaps not all things were otherwise equal. If some powerful elements held the hard evidence that placed a particular elected official under their total control, making great efforts to elevate him to Speaker of the House would be a very shrewd investment.

At times the unwillingness of our national media to see major stories in front of their very noses reaches ridiculous extremes. During the summer of 2007, the Internet was ablaze with claims that Sen. John Edwards, a runner-up in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries, had just fathered a child with his mistress, and those reports were backed by seemingly-credible visual evidence, including photos showing the married senator holding his new-born baby. Yet as the days and even the weeks went by, not a whiff of this salacious scandal ever reached the pages of any of my morning newspapers or the rest of the mainstream media although it was a top conversation topic everywhere else. Eventually, the National Enquirer, a notorious gossip tabloid, scored a journalistic first, by receiving a Pulitzer Prize nomination for breaking the story that no other outlet seemed willing to cover. Would our media have similarly averted its eyes from a newborn baby Trump coming from the wrong side of the bed?

Over the years, it became increasingly obvious to me that nearly all elements of our national media were often quite willing to enlist in a “conspiracy of silence” to minimize or entirely ignore stories of tremendous potential interest to their readership and major public importance. I could easily have doubled or tripled the number of such notable examples I provided above without much effort. Moreover, it is quite intriguing that so many of these cases involve the sort of criminal or sexual misbehavior that would be ideally suited for blackmailing powerful individuals who are less likely to be vulnerable to other influences. So perhaps many of the elected officials situated at the top of our democratic system merely reign as political puppets, dancing to invisible strings.

 

Given my awareness of this remarkable track-record of major media cover-ups, I’m ashamed to admit that I had paid almost no attention to the Jeffrey Epstein case until it exploded across our national headlines earlier this month, suddenly becoming one of the biggest news stories in our country.

For many years, reports about Epstein and his illegal sex-ring had regularly circulated on the fringes of the Internet, with agitated commenters citing the case as proof of the dark and malevolent forces that secretly controlled our corrupted political system. But I almost entirely ignored these discussions, and I’m not sure that I ever once clicked on a single link.

Probably one reason I paid so little attention to the topic was the exceptionally lurid nature of the claims being made. Epstein was supposedly an enormously wealthy Wall Street financier of rather mysterious personal background and source of funds, who owned a private island and an immense New York City mansion, both regularly stocked with harems of underage girls provided for sexual purposes. He allegedly hobnobbed on a regular basis with Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Harvard’s Alan Dershowitz, and numerous other figures in the international elite, as well as a gaggle of ordinary billionaires, frequently transporting those individuals on his personal jet known as “the Lolita Express” for the role it played in facilitating illegal secret orgies with young girls. When right-wing bloggers on obscure websites claimed that former President Clinton and the British Royals were being sexually serviced by the underage girls of a James Bond super-villain brought to life, I just assumed those accusations were the wildest sort of Internet exaggeration.

Moreover, these angry writers did occasionally let slip that the fiendish target of their wrath had already been charged in a Florida courtroom, eventually pleading guilty to a single sexual offense and receiving a thirteen month jail sentence, mitigated by very generous work-release provisions. This hardly seemed like the sort of judicial punishment that would lend credence to the fantastical accusations against him. If Epstein had already been investigated by law enforcement authorities and given the sentence one might expect for writing a bad check, I found it quite unlikely that he was actually the Goldfinger or Dr. No that deluded Internet activists made him out to be.

Then these same wild, implausible claims previously found only on anonymous comment-threads were suddenly repeated as solid fact on the front pages of the Times and all my other morning newspapers, and the former federal prosecutor who had signed off on Epstein’s legal slap-on-the-wrist was forced to resign from the Trump Cabinet. Epstein’s safe had been found to contain a huge cache of child-pornography and other highly suspicious material, and he was quickly rearrested on charges that could send him to federal prison for decades. Prestigious media outlets described Epstein as the mastermind of a huge sex-trafficking ring, and numerous underage victims began coming forward, telling their stories of how he had molested, raped, and pimped them. The author of a long 2003 Epstein profile that had appeared in Vanity Fair explained that she had personally spoken to some of his victims and included their highly-credible accounts in her article, but that those portions had been stricken and removed by her timorous editors.

As presented by these media outlets, Epstein’s personal rise also seemed rather inexplicable unless he had benefited from some powerful network or similar organization. Lacking any college degree or credentials, he had somehow gotten a job teaching at one of New York City’s most elite prep schools, then quickly jumped to working at a top investment bank, rising to partner with astonishing speed until he was fired a few years later for illegal activity. Despite such a scanty and doubtful record, he was soon managing money for some of America’s wealthiest individuals, and keeping so much of it for himself that he was regularly described as a billionaire. According to newspaper accounts, his great specialty was “making connections for people.”

Obviously, Epstein was a ruthlessly opportunistic financial hustler. But extremely wealthy individuals must surely be surrounded by great swarms of ruthlessly opportunistic financial hustlers, and why would he have been so much more successful than all those others? Perhaps a clue comes from the offhand remark of Epstein’s now-disgraced prosecutor, saying that he had been told to go very easy on the sex-trafficker because he “belonged to intelligence.” The vague phrasing of that statement raises questions about whether the intelligence service may not have been one controlled by the U.S. government.

Philip Giraldi, a highly-regarded former CIA officer, put things very plainly when he suggested that Epstein had probably been working for the Israeli Mossad, operating “honey traps” to obtain blackmail information on all the wealthy and powerful individuals whom he regularly plied with underage girls. Indeed, longtime Canadian journalist Eric Margolis recounted his early 1990s visit to Epstein’s enormous NYC mansion, in which he had barely crossed the threshold before he was offered an “intimate massage” by one of the many young girls there, presumably in a bedroom well-stocked with hidden cameras.

Given my personal lack of interest in the Epstein case, then or now, perhaps a few of these details may be garbled, but it seems undeniable that he was exactly the sort of remarkable renegade often faced by Agent 007 in the movies, and the true facts will presumably come out at his trial. Or perhaps not. Whether he lives to see trial is not entirely clear given the considerable number of powerful individuals who might prefer that hidden facts remain hidden, and the Friday newspapers reported that Epstein had been found injured and unconscious in his prison cell.

 

When one seemingly implausible pedophilia scandal has suddenly jumped from obscure corners of the Internet to the front pages of our leading newspapers, we must naturally begin to wonder whether others might not eventually do the same. And a very likely candidate comes to mind, one that seemed to me far better documented than the vague accusations being thrown about over the last few years against a wealthy financier once given a thirteen-month jail sentence in Florida a decade earlier.

I don’t use Social Media myself, but near the end of the 2016 presidential campaign, I gradually began seeing more and more Trump supporters referring to something called “Pizzagate,” a burgeoning sexual scandal that they claimed would bring down Hillary Clinton and many of the top leaders of her party, with the chatter actually increasing after Trump was elected. As near as I could tell, the whole bizarre theory had grown up on the far-right fringe of the Internet, with the utterly fantastical plot having something to do with stolen secret emails, DC pizza parlors, and a ring of pedophiles situated near the top of the Democratic Party. But given all the other strange and unlikely things I’d gradually discovered about our history, it didn’t seem like something I could necessarily dismiss out of hand.

At the beginning of December, a right-wing blogger produced a lengthy exposition of the Pizzagate charges, which finally gave me some understanding of what was actually under discussion, and I soon made arrangements to republish his article. It quickly attracted a great deal of interest, and some websites pointed to it as the best single introduction to the scandal for a general audience.

A couple of weeks later, I republished an additional article by the same writer, describing a long list of previous pedophilia scandals that had occurred in elite American and European political circles. Although many of these seemed to be solidly documented, nearly all of them had received minimal coverage by our mainstream media outlets. And if such political pedophile rings had existed in the relatively recent past, was it so totally implausible that there might be another one simmering beneath the surface of today’s Washington DC?

Those interested in the details of the Pizzagate Hypothesis are advised to read these articles, especially the first one, but I might as well provide a brief summary.

John Podesta had been a longtime fixture in DC political circles, becoming chief of staff to President Bill Clinton in 1998, and afterward remaining one of the most powerful figures in the Democratic Party establishment. While serving as as chairman of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign, his apparent carelessness with the password security of his Gmail account allowed it to easily be hacked, and tens of thousands of his personal emails were soon published on WikiLeaks. A swarm of young anti-Clinton activists began scouring this treasure-trove of semi-confidential information, seeking evidence of mundane bribery and corruption, but instead they came across some quite odd exchanges, seemingly written in coded language.

Now use of coded language in a supposedly secure private email account raises all sorts of natural suspicions regarding what might have been under discussion, with the most likely possibilities being illegal drugs or sex. But most of the references didn’t seem to fit the former category, and in our remarkably libertine era, in which political candidates compete for the right to be Grand Marshal at an annual Gay Pride Parade, one of the few sexual activities still discussed only in whispers would seem to be pedophilia, with some of the very strange remarks possibly hinting at this.

The researchers also soon discovered that his brother Tony Podesta, one of the wealthiest and most successful lobbyists in DC, had extremely odd taste in art. Major items of his very extensive personal collection seemed to represent tortured or murdered bodies, and one of his favorite artists was best known for paintings depicting young children being held captive, lying dead, or suffering under severe distress. Such peculiar artwork obviously isn’t illegal, but it might naturally arouse some suspicions. And oddly enough, arch-Democrat Podesta had long been a close personal friend of former Republican Speaker and convicted child-molester Dennis Hastert, welcoming him back into DC society after his release from prison.

Furthermore, some of the rather suspiciously-worded Podesta emails referred to events held at a local DC pizza parlor, greatly favored by the Democratic Party elite, whose owner was the gay former boyfriend of David Brock, a leading Democratic activist. The public Instagram account of that pizza-entrepreneur apparently contained numerous images of young children, sometimes tied or bound, with those images frequently labeled by hashtags using the traditional gay slang for underage sexual targets. Some photos showed the fellow wearing a tee-shirt bearing the statement “I Love Children” in French, and by a very odd coincidence, his possibly assumed name was phonetically identical to that very same French phrase, thus proclaiming to the world that he was “a lover of children.” Closely connected Instagram accounts also included pictures of young children, sometimes shown amid piles of high-value currency, with queries about how much those particular children might be worth. None of this seemed illegal, but surely any reasonable person would regard the material as extremely suspicious.

DC is sometimes described as “Powertown,” being the seat of the individuals who make America’s laws and govern our society, with local political journalists being closely attuned to the relative status of such individuals. And oddly enough, GQ Magazine had ranked that gay pizza parlor owner with a strange focus on young children as being one of the 50 most powerful people in our national capital, placing him far ahead of many Cabinet members, Senators, Congressional Chairmen, Supreme Court justices, and top lobbyists. Was his pizza really that delicious?

These few paragraphs provide merely a sliver of the large quantity of highly-suspicious material surrounding various powerful figures at the apex of the DC political world. A vast cloud of billowing smoke is certainly no proof of any fire, but only a fool would completely ignore it without attempting further investigation.

I usually regard videos as a poor means of imparting serious information, far less effective and meaningful than the simple printed word. But the overwhelming bulk of the evidence supporting the Pizzagate Hypothesis consists of visual images and screen shots, and these are naturally suited to a video presentation.

Some of the best summaries of the Pizzagate case were produced by a young British YouTuber named Tara McCarthy, whose work was published under the name of “Reality Calls,” and her videos were viewed hundreds of thousands of times. Although her channel was eventually banned and her videos purged, copies were later reloaded to other accounts, both on YouTube and BitChute. Some of the evidence she presents seemed rather innocuous or speculative to me and other elements were probably based upon her unfamiliarity with American society and culture. But a great deal of extremely suspicious material remains, and I would suggest that people watch the videos and decide for themselves.

 

Around the same time that I first became familiar with the details of the Pizzagate controversy, the topic also started reaching the pages of my morning newspapers, but in an rather strange manner. Political stories began giving a sentence or two to the “Pizzagate hoax,” describing it as a ridiculous right-wing “conspiracy theory” but excluding all relevant details. I had an eery feeling that some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch causing the entire mainstream media to begin displaying identical signs declaring “Pizzagate Is False—Nothing To See There!” in brightly flashing neon. I couldn’t recall any previous example of such a strange media reaction to some obscure Internet controversy.

Articles in the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times also suddenly appeared denouncing the entirety of the alternative media—Left, Right, and Libertarian—as “fake news” websites promoting Russian propaganda, while urging that their content be blocked by all patriotic Internet giants such as Facebook, Twitter, and Google. Prior to that moment, I’d never even heard the term “fake news” but suddenly it was ubiquitous across the media, once again almost as if some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch.

I naturally began to wonder whether the timing of these two strange developments was entirely coincidental. Perhaps Pizzagate was indeed true and struck so deeply at the core of our hugely corrupted political system that the media efforts to suppress it were approaching the point of hysteria.

Not long afterward, Tara McCarthy’s detailed Pizzagate videos were purged from YouTube. This was among the very first instances of video content being banned despite fully conforming to all existing YouTube guidelines, another deeply suspicious development.

I also noticed that mere mention of Pizzagate had become politically lethal. Donald Trump had selected Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, as his National Security Advisor, and Flynn’s son served as the latter’s chief of staff. The younger Flynn happened to Tweet out a couple of links to Pizzagate stories, pointing out that the accusations hadn’t yet been actually investigated let alone disproven, and very soon afterward, he was purged from the Trump transition team, foreshadowing his father’s fall a few weeks later. It seemed astonishing to me that a few simple Tweets about an Internet controversy could have such huge real-life impact near the top of our government.

The media continued its uniform drumbeat of “Pizzagate Has Been Disproven!” but we were never told how or by whom, and I was not the only individual to notice the hollowness of such denunciations. An award-winning investigative journalist named Ben Swann at a CBS station in Atlanta broadcast a short television segment summarizing the Pizzagate controversy and noting that contrary to widespread media claims, Pizzagate had neither been investigated nor debunked. Swann was almost immediately purged by CBS but a copy of his television segment remains available for viewing on the Internet.

 

There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of Pizzagate seems to raise obvious dark suspicions. Indeed, the simultaneous waves of attacks against all alternative media outlets as “Russian propaganda outlets” laid the basis for the continuing regime of Social Media censorship that has become a central aspect of today’s world.

Pizzagate may or may not turn out to be true, but the ongoing Internet crackdown has similarly engulfed topics of a somewhat similar nature but with vastly stronger documentation. Although I don’t use Twitter myself, I encountered the obvious implications of this new censorship policy following McCain’s death last August. The senator had died on a Saturday afternoon, and readership of Sydney Schanberg’s long 2008 expose quickly exploded, with numerous individuals Tweeting out the story and a large fraction of our incoming traffic therefore coming from Twitter. This continued until the following morning, at which point the huge flood of Tweets continued to grow, but all incoming Twitter traffic suddenly and permanently vanished, presumably because “shadow banning” had rendered those Tweets invisible. My own article on McCain’s very doubtful war record simultaneously suffered the same fate, as did numerous other articles of a controversial nature that we published later that same week.

Perhaps that censorship decision was made by some ignorant young intern at Twitter, casually choosing to ban as “hate speech” or “fake news” a massively-documented 8,400 word expose by one of America’s most distinguished journalists, a Pulitzer-prize winning former top editor at The New York Times.

Or perhaps certain political-puppeteers who had spent decades controlling that late Arizona senator sought to ensure that their political puppet-strings remained invisible even after his death.

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  1. The last big VA scandal where many Veterans died waiting to get medical treatment happened in Arizona. You cannot tell me that McCain did not know that Veterans were dying while waiting to get help at the Phoenix VA. In my opinion McCain was a worthless human being.

    From a Honorably Discharged US Army Sergeant who uses the VA and knows how worthless our congress persons are when it comes to taking care of Vets.

    https://www.azcentral.com/investigations/vahealthsystem/

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Moi
    , @David Baker
    , @Leon
  2. My tribute to the late Senator, from my blog:

    Aug 27, 2018 – The Truth about John McCain

    John McCain was a leading American neocon who always advocated war and ever greater military spending for a growing worldwide empire. This made him a successful politician and explains why our neocon corporate media praises him and refuses to reports facts about his life. By several accounts (“The Nightingale Song” for example) he only got into the Naval Academy for a free college degree because dad and grandfather were admirals, and should have been kicked out several times. He graduated near the bottom of his class and was a lousy pilot who got into trouble often and crashed two aircraft because of neglect. He was shot down on his first tour over Vietnam while bombing a civilian power plant, and getting captured is not heroic.

    [MORE]

    What happened in captivity is controversial, but upon returning from POW status he passed a physical and regained flight status as a pilot. Yet after he finished 20 years of service that allowed generous retirement pay, he obtained a 100% VA disability rating allowing him to collect some $40,000 a year tax free too! The LA Times mentioned this when McCain insisted he was fit to serve as President. For the past two decades, he hauled in over $240,000 a year from the Feds for military retirement, 100% VA disability, social security retirement, while working full-time in the US Senate. He was paid for being retired, disabled, and gainfully employed! This is textbook case of why our system needs reform to protect taxpayers from rich welfare kings like McCain.

    McCain’s loyal wife was disabled in a serious auto accident while he was a POW. Soon after he returned, McCain dumped her for a wealthy woman 20 years younger. The Reagans were so angry they never spoke to him again. He then married his new babe before he officially got divorced, so there’s that bigamy thing. McCain used his wife’s family money to run for Congress and quickly got into trouble with the Keating Five scandal. McCain got $112,000 in “campaign contributions” and an equal amount of luxury perks from one of our nation’s leading fraudsters. In return, he helped change laws and threatened regulators to allow this multi-billion real estate scam to grow.

    I don’t know why any Arizonian voted for this crazed man, especially since he was a big advocate for open borders. At a union meeting, he told workers illegals are needed because Americans are too lazy to work farm fields, even for $50 an hour. McCain never labored his entire life, always on the government dole earning ten times minimum wage worker pay, whose increase he opposed.

    McCain grew up wealthy and enjoyed free government health care his entire life, yet thought it nothing workers deserve. While running for President and attacking programs for the poor, a reporter asked how many houses he owned. He was unsure, but thought maybe seven. But his worst damage was to oppose any attempt at world peace, often demanding that the USA bomb the neocon designated villain of the year, currently Iran. McCain was a key player in the senseless deaths of thousands of American GIs and a million foreigners over the past two decades. He will not be missed.

    Sep 2, 2018 – John McCain Will Not Be Missed

    As a follow-up to my Aug 27th blog, I ask people to name McCain’s most important accomplishment during his long political career. They can think of none, but the TV tells them McCain was great because he was a neocon. Senator Paul Laxalt saw more combat than McCain and had an equally long and distinguished career. He was not a crazed neocon so our media barely reported his death last month.

    Here are two examples of McCain’s bad character just this past year. McCain had always opposed Obamacare and campaigned against it. The Republicans had tried to repeal it for years. The election of President Trump also brought in more Republican congressmen. The House easily repealed it, and the Senate finally had a majority to vote for a partial repeal. This would be a big victory for the Republicans led by President Trump. When the vote was held, McCain shocked everyone and voted against it, thus abandoning his principles and backstabbing his party! This was applauded by the Democrats and the insurance companies who profit from Obamacare. They praised McCain as a “maverick”, although everyone knows this was done just to thwart a Trump victory.

    On his deathbed, McCain directed his staff not to invite his Presidential running mate Sarah Palin to his funeral. She campaigned for him as a loyal teammate and never said a bad word about McCain during the campaign or after their loss. McCain blamed her for his loss and expressed this in a childish manner. Allow me to summarize his life. John McCain was a selfish, spoiled brat who had no sense of decency.

  3. Another great article, Ron.

    One of the most blatant examples of news media’s silence on a topic of great national interest is the lack of coverage of closed-door “globalist” meetings like Bilderberg (which is attended by employees of such publications as The New York Times and Washington Post.)
    The overheard conversation between Angela Merkel and Mark Zuckerberg on what Facebook can do to further her immigration agenda also received astonishingly little coverage from the establishment press:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/30/angela-merkel-caught-on-hot-mic-confronting-mark-z/

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Paw
  4. Alden says:

    If you look closely at Hoover’s pictures it’s hard to miss the kinky hair, broad nose and just something about the bone structure of his face that reveals some negro ancestry. There’s a high school picture of him in some kind of band or cadet uniform that makes his bit of black blood obvious.

    That Mayor Moscone of San Francisco who was shot had a thing for 11-13 black girls, small ones. He liked to beat them up a bit too. Probably not as badly as the bearings their mothers face them all their lives. His driver was a district attorney investigator who had to drive him to the projects and Protero Silver Av neighborhoods to meet his little friends. He met them at their mothers homes. I assume the mothers consented and some pimps arranged things.

    One time Mayor Moscone drive himself to the Sunnyvale projects. While he was inside with his little friend some black guys removed all the tires from his city car and he had to call the police to drive him home.

    He had 4 or 5 kids, Catholic Church attendance catholic schools the whole ostentatious Italian Catholic thing but he liked sex with those really young black girls in their project homes.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @David In TN
    , @Ron Unz
  5. Miro23 says:

    But as the media continued to avert its eyes from these newly revealed facts, even those disclosed in the pages of the Times itself, I gradually began to consider matters in a different light. Perhaps McCain’s elevation to great American political power was not in spite of the devastating facts littering his personal past, but because of them.

    Agree with this. The message from the McCain funeral was that the blackmailed US political class would be well looked after -right to the end – if they remained docile and obedient and followed their scripts.

    For “War Hero” McCain, it was his unswerving hard line calling for the destruction of Iran.

    But, the Zio-Glob still failed to get their war through McCain, and they also failed to get it through Hillary Clinton. Both of them were rejected by voters despite massive media support. This points to a basic problem that the Empire’s has with Democracy. The public clearly doesn’t want another ME war, and is now aware that it was tricked into Iraq (WMD), and significantly, their (the public’s) resistance to war is sufficiently strong enough to overcome massed MSM propaganda pushing the other way.

    If the MSM can’t swing it, then they need to get a compromised candidate elected on an anti-war and immigration control platform, who then does a 180º turn when in office. Trump wasn’t their candidate (which suggests that he’s clean), and (so far) he hasn’t enabled a war with Iran, so what happens with him is an open question.

    Also agree that the media reaction to the Pizzagate (pedophilia) story was one of extreme sensitivity – almost panic, with a massive and coordinated overreaction. This suggests that Pizzagate is in fact the nightmare subject at the root of American politician’s worst dreams.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @gepay
    , @Rosie
  6. Jimmy R says:

    The most obvious example is the Catholic Church, and the failings of its American and international hierarchy in that regard have regularly made the front pages of our leading newspapers. But until the early 2000s and the breakthrough reporting of the Boston Globe as recounted in the Oscar-winning film Spotlight, the Church had routinely fended off such scandals.

    I’m an investigator in Boston. Just to put things in perspective, Globe’s Spotlight investigation really only involved 8 priests (3 of them no longer in the priesthood- one in prison- at the time of the Spotlight piece) and went back 30 years. I don’t have numbers on minors involved in this Epstein scandal but I would guess they are much higher.

    I always found it curious that Marty Baron decides to launch a major expose of the Boston Catholic Church right after arriving from Miami. Seriously? A dozen priests out of thousands in the Boston Archdiocese? I really would like to know who was behind this concerted operation to take down the heart of American Catholicism. They make the folks behind the Trump-Russia collusion plot look like amateurs.

  7. trelane says:

    Strange. What a funny thing.

    I guess I was just your puppet you held on a string.

    Strange how you stopped loving me. How you stopped needing me. ….When she came along

  8. Tusk says:

    Don’t forget the arrest of Ars Technica writer Peter Bright, @DrPizza on twitter (account still up), who was arrested last month for soliciting sex with children and admitted to abusing an 11 year old girl. A guy named ‘Dr Pizza’ who had a pizza emoji next to his name, who tweeted often that Pizzagate was completely made up and once to the effect that “why would pedophiles put badges that could identify them up online” was arrested for being a pedophile and then subsequently came out he had constantly argued for relaxations on things like child porn and sexual-related issues. If this doesn’t at least give doubters cause for concern that maybe something is up I don’t know what will.

    https://noqreport.com/2019/06/13/internal-boards-show-dr-pizza-debated-ars-technica-staff-legalizing-child-porn/

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/peter-bright-dr-pizza/

  9. Alfred says:

    This is a well-known weakness of Representative Democracy – in all its versions.

    The Balfour Declaration which led eventually to the creation of the state of Israel was undoubtedly the result of complex blackmail and bribery. Perhaps the USA would not have entered into WW1 unless Jews were promised Palestine in a deal.

    Democracy is supposed to be a negative-feedback system – like all control system. The only way to make it function properly is to have Direct Democracy – where people vote on all issues and at the lowest level commensurate with the matter to be decided.

  10. Anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Journolist is probably weak sauce compared to the major editors of the largest television networks and newspaper syndicates deciding amongst themselves “whats news”. Ive thought this for years. We know the CIA has people placed in media organizations, and probably has dirt on highly placed people in media organizations who are not CIA.

  11. utu says:

    McCain’s own Communist propaganda broadcasts

    McCain must have been susceptible to pressure from Russians or Chinese who certainly knew everything McCain did in Vietnam? Or is KGB/FSB also run form Tel Aviv?

  12. R.G. Camara says: • Website

    Alex Jones — yes, Alex Jones — gave a coherent argument about the pedophilia accusations that avoided Satanism and the like but was still coherent. And its the same as the one you talk about.

    Simple Kompromat.

    Basically, national intelligence agencies identify up-and-comers in media and politics, then either get kompromat on them early or, if they can find nothing, set up a scenario where kompromat is created. In this latter scenario, the up-and-comer is invited to dinner, drugged, and then wakes up with either a dead body next to him or is shown pictures of him either killing someone or else molesting children. Then the up-and-comer is trapped for life.

    Remember The Godfather, Part II? They got the Nevada Senator to become their slave when they drugged him in a whorehouse and Neri killed the girl he was sleeping with, and the senator wakes up confused next to the girl and doesn’t know if he did it or not — and Michael promises to keep it all quiet — for a price, of course. That’s how it happens to these folks.

    Then they own you for years.

    Which makes you really scared — not only is the FBI and NSA and CIA spying on us all illegally and spying on Trump at Obama’s behest and allowing Hillary to skate — they’re running murder and child sex rings themselves. To gain leverage.

  13. R.G. Camara says: • Website
    @Jimmy R

    Surprisingly, the Globe’s in-bad-faith attack on the Church might have begun a a greater renewal in it. Once it came out, people who had faith started noticing that almost all the priests doing the abuse were — gay men abusing teenage boys. 81% of the cases weren’t “pedophilia”, they were homosexuals getting sexually mature but underage, vulnerable boys behind closed doors and taking advantage of them.

    Catholics like Michael Voris at Church Militant have put 2 and 2 together. The problems in the Church isn’t pedophilia, its homosexuals — and Voris has exposed a ton more, including many bishops, and called them out harshly. The Church is supposed to purge homosexuals from the priesthood (by Catholic dogma), but haven’t — because higher-up homos have protected the lot.

    But now many Catholic lay groups are organized and pushing to attack the illegal gay priests and get them out of the cloth. The homomafia is now proven to exist — and, much like when the original Mafia was admitted to exist by the Kefauver hearings, an organized rounding up can occur.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Nodwink
    , @Anon
    , @Charles
  14. renfro says:

    I learn from the Times that the Phoenix beer-monopoly in question, then valued at around $200 million, had accrued to a man whose lifelong business partner Kemper Marley had long been deeply linked to organized crime.

    Jim Hensley the beer baron and McCain father in law was convicted of liquor related federal crimes (stealing from warehouses) but must have had a friendly judge…lol…cause he didn’t do jail time , got probation and paid a big fine. He was working for Kemper Marley at the time.
    So liar McCain married into a crime family….makes sense for a career fuck up who once his father died would start failing downward instead of upward.

    Organized crime loves beer and liquor distributorships cause its a all cash business….the retailer pays you for the beer before it goes on their shelves or in their bar. …no credit, no billing, pay up front. I bought a beer distributorship in 1975 so I know a bit about it….and Hensley had to have had some state officials in his pocket or his friend Marley had them cause is no way the state is going to give you a license if you’ve been convicted on anything worse than a speeding ticket.
    You’ve got to be investigated by your state FBI for starters, account for every year of your life, your schools, your wife’s life, your parents and relatives, list people you associate with in business or socially, then they go interview people who know you,,,in fact they do that before they even personally interview you and you have to give them your financial records, what your source of money is and all your tax returns. All of this is to make sure you have no ties to any kind of organized crime and the money purchasing the distributorship isn’t coming from any shady figures.
    Hensley or his backer had some very serious political pull and pay offs.

    The number one career choice for aspiring crooks and fuckups is politics….McCain with his punk complex temper couldn’t have held on to job anywhere else.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  15. eah says:

    Over the years, it became increasingly obvious to me that nearly all elements of our national media were often quite willing to enlist in a “conspiracy of silence” to minimize or entirely ignore stories of tremendous potential interest to their readership and major public importance.

    Yes, how about an update on the investigation into the killing of Seth Rich — does that count as a ‘cold case’ at this point?

    Also media interest in the Las Vegas mass shooting seemed to fizzle — as did the investigation.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  16. getaclue says:

    This is the concept of Kakistocracy. I always found McCain getting a pass on what he did to the left behind POWs hard to fathom–this explains it. Before I read this article I thought that Pizzagate was just some kind of lunacy/nothing and had heard some guy went and shot up a restaurant over it (probably the creeps involved in it arranged that themselves to discredit those exposing them?) and it was since faded away discredited, I see it attacked by the same people who are always using the CIA created term “Conspiracy Theory”…seems it is in fact the opposite of what I thought (due to the Globalist Propagandist Media) and its creepy players are “running” things and highly protected by the Propagandist Globalist NWO Media, seems Obama himself is in deep if the video is correct?…hard to even look at the video as to these creatures….So Question? Is the Q thing also for real? I have never really followed it and seen it “debunked” on a site that made it sound like lunacy but this makes me wonder….

    • Replies: @refl
    , @Bork
    , @Nescio
  17. Well done and case in point – a current puppet show:

    2020 presidential candidates’ views on Israel

    Truth will set America free – only If Americans Knew !

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXLRhe7EQV3rg-bdK0cr1zw

    • Replies: @Truth3
    , @Hail
  18. @Jimmy R

    Sometimes ago, the Mexican Bishops Conference, when speaking about Mexican monopolistic oligarches, said they were like contemporary slave-owners….
    About one year later, one of theses oligarches, Carlos Slim, bought a part of the NYTimes. Then the NYT started its own crusade against Catholic priests paedophilia.

    At the time, I noticed the coincidence, but it was like I was the only one noticing it.
    Is J. Gutierez around? He may confirm the story.

    • Replies: @J. Gutierrez
    , @Anon
  19. Dan Hayes says:
    @Jimmy R

    Jimmy R:

    I appreciate your telling “the rest of the story” regarding the actual (as opposed to purported) extent of the Boston sex abuse scandal.

    The same abuse exaggerations also occurred in Pennsylvania.”Grossly misleading, irresponsible, inaccurate, and unjust” is how former New York Times religion reporter Peter Steinfels described last August’s grand jury report in its sweeping accusations that Pennsylvania Catholic bishops refused to protect children from sexual abuse.

    BTW, some time ago our patron Ron off-handedly accepted as factual the Globe narrative. When contrary opinion and facts were brought to his attention, he appeared to have accepted that they were at least worthy of consideration. (Or that’s the way I vaguely remember what transpired.)

    • Replies: @Dissident
  20. I did not know anything about any physical violence that may or many not have been present in McCain’s marriage. I certainly did feel, that much of the senator’s last days were being carefully orchestrated in order to maintain the highest degree of hero status possible. His wealthy wife certainly had the resources to leave if she wanted to. She always seemed to me extremely loyal and attentive.

    I would say it was similar concerning Bush 41. Perfectly understandable that negative stories wouldn’t be brought up during his long wake/funeral –in Tx and DC– but how about never? Several books have said that Bush’s — and campaign manager W. Casey– CIA connections helped Reagan get elected by keeping the hostages in Iran .

    The Vice-Pres was also up to his neck in the Iran/Contra affair in spite of him saying he was “out of the loop (he wasn’t).” A sexual affair is unimportant. But the family says it never happened. Others have said otherwise. Jesse Ventura and his writer Dick Russell have done a nice job laying out some things that you will never hear from the Bush flack John Meacham. Or pretty much anyone else in on- air media.

  21. The Corporate Fascist Military Industrial-Intelligence Police State will tell us who our heroes, presidents, and icons are. It has already been decided. McCain was commonly known as “crash” for all the incidents he had. He was a terrible pilot and would have never been one except for his father. His beatings of his wife were widely known but covered up because of his “War Hero Status.” Our entire society is nothing more than a projection by the “controllers.”

    Examples of this are of course Obama and his wife. The media asked him almost no questions and he was guided by the Jew Axelrod to the Media’s satisfaction. What Obama and his wife got away with in Chicago would embarrass the Mafia. Michele Obama had to surrender her law license to the Illinois State Disciplinary Committee. The files have been sealed.

    Just look at the group running for President. All basically selected by the same controllers. They will not make a mistake in letting another Trump spoil their plans. Our entire democracy is just a mirage. The founder fathers were afraid that this would happen but their plans in the Constitution to protect the nation have become “gang banged” by the Marxist Mobs whose heroes are icons like Obama who bombed seven Muslim countries, murdered thousands of innocent people, destroyed the middle class and started wars and lied to the nation yet these people are on their knees to his royal presence.

    We have no chance of getting to the truth on anything because to even ask a question is now an act of racism, antisemitism, and hatred.

  22. LondonBob says:

    One of the more extreme accusers in Britain has revealed to be a fantasist, his claims went well beyond other claims and included such unlikely characters as Field Marshall Lord Brammal, and this is being used to Bury the paedophile scandal in Britain. Greville Janner’s children have been given prominent coverage to suggest this shows their father is innocent despite the fact that the evidence against their father is very substantial and has little to do with the fantasist.

    https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2019/07/does-nicks-conviction-mean-jimmy-savile-is-innocent-yes-if-you-work-for-the-british-media/

    Perhaps most interesting is the allegations surrounding Kincora Boys’ Home, in particular the involvement of the intelligence services.

    https://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/569181/sex-abuse-claims-Leo-McKinstry

    • Replies: @Nescio
  23. There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of Pizzagate seems to raise all sorts of dark suspicions.

    I guess we can look forward to another day of heavy DDoS of unz.com.

    How is it we don’t yet have a Grand Unifying Theory that links the seemingly unconnected paedophelia stories that have simmered simultaneously in D.C., Westminster, and Brussels over the past couple of decades? The Church would seem to fit right in in this NWO orgy, but has instead been hung out to dry.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  24. HoekomSA says:

    One of the elite one worlder groups is the (in)famous Skull and Bones society at Yale. Its membership included both president Bushes as well as John Kerry and a multitude of other politicians. Anthony Sutton carried out an expose in his book America’s secret establishment. Part of the inition occurs in a crypt surrounded by skulls , including Geronimos’s skull while lying in a coffin. If that isnt weird enough part of the initiation includes something around sexual misadventure. According to Kay Riggs, whose husband was a colnel in the intelligence services the sexual side of the initiation involves the person being sodomised by an member of the society. According to her , in order to enter the higher levels of many parts of government this is not an uncommon practice.

    In the murky world of american political elites the truth is impossible to be certain of.

    The skull and bones society has been well publicised so presumably now the power has been withdrawn from it.

  25. I’ve had much enjoyment over the years by asking McCain worshipers to give me the name of one Vietnamese with as many confirmed kills of American military as John McCain.

  26. swamped says:

    Another long-winded & annoyingly inchoate ramble raising several important but seemingly disparate subjects, each of which could & probably should have been pursued independently. Is there really any viable connection between Sydney Schanberg & Epstein, between the Catholic Church & John McCain, between Berezovsky & Pizzagate, etc.? What a jumbled mishmash that leaves you more confused than when you started. “Perhaps” this & “perhaps” that, doesn’t help very much. The most urgent question though is why are so many high & mighty tempted by pedophilia in the first place, where does that psychosis come from & why are the power games more important than the pawns, the poor kids, that are used to play it? Hanging is much too good for an unspeakable filth like Epstein & whoever aided him. There is no punishment or torture ever devised that would be sufficient, if found guilty, for the crimes for which he stands accused. That should come first, the rest is chickenfeed.

  27. Picky typo-asshole here, reporting for duty
    “but I might was well provide a brief summary.”

    but I might as well provide a brief summary.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  28. Ahoy says:

    We have progressed (here we laugh) from the times of Gentlemen and Ladies to so-called emancipated men and women with human rights fit for animals. Just to refresh your memory

    After I heard this I am convinced we moved from great CASH to trash.

  29. Realist says:
    @Mike Johnson

    The last big VA scandal where many Veterans died waiting to get medical treatment happened in Arizona. You cannot tell me that McCain did not know that Veterans were dying while waiting to get help at the Phoenix VA. In my opinion McCain was a worthless human being.

    The most devastating victory the North Vietnamese had over the US was the return of McCain alive.

    • Replies: @uncle tungsten
  30. Gordo says:

    Thank you for this article Mr Unz.

    • Agree: Hail
  31. Nodwink says:

    I’m not convinced by the evidence against Comet Ping Pong, but I am intrigued by the possible connections that the Podesta brothers have to the disappearance of the British girl, Madelaine McCann, in Portugal over a decade ago. John Podesta is known to have been in Portugal around the time of Madelaine’s disappearance. There is also a description eerily similar to Anthony Wiener.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Republic
  32. I’ve long been convinced, and who can deny, that most of the wars the US has been involved in, and all of the ones Zionists and Communists have been involved in, have roots in outrageous sadistic psychopathology like this.:

    Major items of his very extensive personal collection seemed to represent tortured or murdered bodies, and one of his favorite artists was best known for paintings depicting young children being held captive, lying dead, or suffering under severe distress

    .

    As for the slime, McCain, and the rest of the political establishment, none of it surprises me. The type was recognized long ago.

    [MORE]

    CLEON
    I denounce this fellow; he has had tasty stews exported from Athens for the Spartan fleet.

    SAUSAGE-SELLER
    And I denounce him; he runs into the Prytaneum with an empty belly and comes out with it full.
    CLEON
    Will you not let me speak?
    SAUSAGE-SELLER
    And what do you drink yourself then, to be able all alone by yourself to dumbfound and stupefy the city so with your clamour?
    CLEON
    I do not fear you as long as there is a Senate and a people which stands like a fool, gaping in the air.
    SAUSAGE-SELLER
    They could make nothing of it; or, if they suspected a trick, I hid the meat in my crotch and denied the thing by all the gods-so that an orator, seeing me at the game, cried, “This child will get on; he has the mettle that makes a statesman.”

    LEADER OF THE CHORUS
    He argued rightly; to steal, perjure yourself and make your arse receptive are three essentials for climbing high.
    -Aristophanes, The Knights (~424 B.C.)

    classics.mit.edu/Aristophanes/knights.html

    But hey, folks, keep votin’!

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  33. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    That some, if not many US politicians have degenerate backgrounds and bizarre tastes can’t be brushed off as some coincidence.

    If you’re a tiny ME nation that is doing a good job of occupying the most powerful military on Earth or if you’re some bankster gangster that wants to keep your fraudulent fiat money scheme afloat, our corrupt politicians are just what the doctor ordered.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Dissident
  34. @Tusk

    A guy named ‘Dr Pizza’ who had a pizza emoji next to his name, who tweeted often that Pizzagate was completely made up and once to the effect that “why would pedophiles put badges that could identify them up online” was arrested for being a pedophile and then subsequently came out he had constantly argued for relaxations on things like child porn and sexual-related issues.

    The bastards just love molesting our minds as well. Who can deny that they enjoy it even more when they ply their perversions in our faces? It should also be crystal clear that the gratuitous Isreali sniping and crippling and a thousand other outrageous crimes against humanity stimulate the hell out of the perverts.

    When will people finally get it through their heads that politics is all about domination, most often in perverted and sadistic forms?

    None of this should be a bit surprising.

  35. @Jimmy R

    I’m no Catholic, but it’s long been obvious that the incessant harping on the Church’s pedophilia is a twofer; it’s not only a huge smear campaign, but it’s no doubt worth $$ to the usual suspects. Look what the Commies did to religious folk in the former USSR and to the largely Christian Germany, and tell me that there’s no connection.

    Sadistic perverts rule with the consistent support of the “great” US moneyed ruling classes while the drooling rubes and dupes do their part as well.

    • Replies: @Anthony Wayne
  36. Robjil says:
    @Jimmy R

    It is all about stopping the Catholic Church from having a voice to oppose Zion BC wars and coups. The Jewish Zionists want to continue the mass destruction of our planet without any back talk.

    Planted Memories is a good trick to silence any organization and a big one like the Catholic Church.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/media-spotlight/201211/implanting-false-memories

    Planted memories have used since the 1990s against the Catholic Church in a big way. After the end of the cold war, the ZUS wanted wars for Zion mania. No back talk allowed from any one or group is “allowed”. This planted memories games works like a charm and has been used over and over again on the Catholic Church to silence it. It allows the wars and the coups for Zion BC go on and on endlessly with no back talk. It is a common trick for many cases these days.

    “There is no credible scientific support for the idea that we can take eleven years of brutalization and banish it into the unconscious and then undergo some therapy which is going to make us aware of it,” Dr. Loftus reported as she discussed the Holly Ramona case, “and yet these kinds of things were being introduced into court cases throughout the 1990s and into the 2000s and still today.” While her outspoken opposition to recovered memory has led to her being targeted by feminist and victims’ rights groups over the years (including the controversial “Jane Doe case”), Dr. Loftus continues to stand by her own research into false memory.

    • Replies: @A.R
  37. Regarding the fabled photos of J Edgar Hoover in a woman’s dress and with his gay lover, held as successful blackmail by the Jewish mob & Meyer Lansky, Ms Whitney Webb says in her Mint Press News series on Epstein connections:

    Anthony Summers, former BBC journalist and author of ‘Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover’, has argued that it was not Lansky, but William Donovan, the director of the OSS, who obtained the original photos of Hoover and later shared them with Lansky.

    Ms Webb argues for a quite long series of connections between the USA-Canadian Jewish & Italian mobs going back a century, the paedophile and under-age-sex-slave blackmail groups, and the USA & Israel intel agencies. Her series is quite something, the first two installments:
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/
    Many connections are indeed striking. Trump’s current USA Attorney General Barr (born 1950) & his father Donald Barr (1921-2004), were both CIA-intel officers & both linked to Epstein. William was CIA officer 1973-77, the CIA supporting him going to law school, father Donald with OSS & Bill Donovan the CIA predecessor during WW2.

    Barr’s later law firm Kirkland & Ellis represented Epstein; Donald Barr, when NYC Dalton School headmaster, gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job, teaching teen-age girls & boys 1973-75, whilst William Barr was at the CIA. Father Donald Barr was fascinated by sex slavery as much as Epstein apparently, Barr authoring a 1973 fantasy novel on the subject, ‘Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale” … book published when Jeffrey Epstein was his underling & school-teacher of teens.

    Ms Webb recounts multiple child molestation and political blackmail groups – which had a collective name, ‘Bodies from God’ – all linking ultimately with Jeffrey Epstein, intel agencies, and Jewish mobsters; Lansky etc., and such as the Bronfmans of Canada, the Bronfmans in 1991 joining with Epstein’s patron & the original buyer of his New York City mansion, Les Wexner, to found the ‘Mega Group’ of 20 or so Zionist Jewish billionaires … who are now often perceived to be the Mossad-backed money source for Epstein. A short list of these groups and persons mentioned by Webb

    [MORE]

    (1) Roy Cohn (1927-86) allegedly ran child sex and blackmail operations for decades, operating out of locales such as New York’s Plaza Hotel

    (2) Robert Keith Gray (1921-2014), USA lobbyist, “specialist in homosexual blackmail operations for the CIA and reported to have collaborated with Roy Cohn”

    (3) Bruce Ritter (1927-99), Roman Catholic priest and founder of Covenant House for homeless teenagers, “eventually accused of having sexual relationships with many of the underaged boys he had taken in”, Ritter supported by Cardinal Spellman closely tied to Roy Cohn, and tied to George H W Bush’s Yale room-mate

    (4) Craig Spence (1941-89), another USA lobbyist; “in June 1989, it was revealed that he had been pimping out children to the power elite in the nation’s capital throughout the 1980s in apartments that were bugged with video and audio recording equipment … reports on Spence’s child sex ring also reveal his close ties to none other than the ubiquitous Roy Cohn

    “Spence had been able to enter the White House late at night during the George H.W. Bush administration with young men whom the Washington Times described as ‘call boys’ … Spence often boasted that he was working for the CIA … Not long after the Washington Times report on his activities was published, Spence was found dead in the Boston Ritz Carlton and his death was quickly ruled a suicide.”

    (5) Lawrence E. King Jr, lobbyist and credit union banker, key figure in the “infamous Franklin child sex abuse and ritual murder scandal … run out of Omaha, Nebraska … Larry King and his Nebraska-based call boy ring, was discovered by looking through the credit card chits of Spence’s ring … King and Spence were essentially business partners as their child trafficking rings were operated under a larger group that was nicknamed ‘Bodies by God’ … the rings run by both King and Spence were connected to each other and both were also connected to prominent officials in the Reagan and subsequent George H.W. Bush administrations, including officials with ties to the CIA and Roy Cohn and his network”

    (6) Jeffrey Epstein (born 1953) then comes in on the scene, convicted of the same kinds of activities, and linked to the networks reflected in the above

    (7) NXIVM recent sex-slave and child pornography scandal involving Clare Bronfman

    By the way, the ‘police break-in’ to Epstein’s New York City 27,000 square foot mansion, is regarded as a staged fake event by many, because as was clear, Epstein had multiple live-in staffers, there was always a butler or someone present 24/7, who would simply have opened the door for the police. The crowbar damage to the door would not have opened the high-security portal, and would have set off massive alarms. The people walking out with cheap rubbish bags of alleged ‘evidence’ did not even look like police or feds on a high-profile operation.

    Epstein always had lots of aides & helpers such as Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of ‘Israeli super-spy Robert Maxwell’, allegedly helping procure all the young girls etc., yet somehow not yet so touched by these events … when a ‘serious’ prosecution would certain quickly dragnet all such people. What is really going on, remains yet to be seen.

    • Agree: Sam Coulton
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Nescio
  38. Biff says:

    Trust Wikipedia to get the story strait(sarcasm).

    Pizzagate” is a debunked conspiracy theory that went viral during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle.[2][3][4] It has been extensively discredited by a wide range of organizations, including the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia.[3][4][5]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

    Some of Pizzagate’s proponents, including David Seaman and Michael G. Flynn (Michael Flynn’s son), have evolved the conspiracy into a broader government conspiracy called “Pedogate”. According to this theory, a “satanic cabal of elites” of the New World Order operates international child sex trafficking rings.[27]

    Was Epstein part of a “Satanic cabal” ?

  39. TKK says:

    The Epstein conspiracy grows worse.

    One of the victims filed a federal lawsuit. Once filed, this is public record. The only redactions allowed are social security numbers and the like.

    When the Miami Herald went to obtain the Motion for Summary Judgment, it was completely redacted. 137 pages of blacked out paragraphs.

    A motion for summary judgment is basically saying there are no material issues in dispute- nothing to litigate. This document would contain all relevant facts about the case.

    This type of redaction is unheard, unprecedented- appalling.

    The only reason the Herald is in pursuit ( and any other MSM) is because they believed it would destroy Trump.

    It’s now on appeal. If the redactions stand, we should riot in the street. We knew justice was bought, but pedophilia usually will stir up some dregs of bureaucratic slugs to action.

    And with a parallel to McCain, if Clinton slithers out of this- with over 27 flights on the Lolita Express- he is officially the most untouchable man in history.

    Once you start researching the Epstein matter- not for the lurid details- but the unprecedented, jaw dropping preferential treatment of an actual human sex trafficker ( not this fake #metoo hysteria)

    – all hope is lost.

    Note the strange silence from Hollywood and the elites regarding Epstein’s victims, when they were wearing hair shirts over Christine Fords 30 year old accusation.

    A wealthy smug scold, who looks like an exploded can of rotten biscuit dough had them weeping on camera.

    Dozens of little girls – all poor and from fatherless backgrounds marred by parental drug abuse, suicides and physical abuse- selected and sexually devastated by Epstein- not a word.

    • Agree: Craig Nelsen
  40. Who can forget Gerry Studds, democrap ephebophile?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds

  41. onebornfree says: • Website

    Ron Unz says: “…..at the core of our hugely corrupted political system …..”

    So whats to be done? Isn’t that the big question here?

    I believe that its only with the an understanding of the true, 100% corrupt nature of the state, that real-world solutions to the massive [ and progressively worse] problems it causes in society can be worked out and then implemented.

    Ron, the big picture here that you, like most, either genuinely don’t see [ or conveniently refuse to see] is this:

    The True Nature of All Governments:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [via central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.” Albert J. Nock

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure.” Robert LeFevre

    Without an generally accepted understanding of the true nature of all states and governments, we are lost, as far as I can see.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @lysias
    , @Durruti
  42. Iris says:
    @Jimmy R

    Also, there is a major distinction: child abuse in the Catholic Church is committed by isolated individuals whose sole responsibility is involved when the crime is committed. It is not institutionalised, pre-planned and organised by a group, as it is within the political establishment.

    It is the same difference as between a criminal and organised crime, and it is a major difference, in magnitude and in nature.

    • Replies: @Hans
    , @G. Poulin
  43. Moi says:
    @Mike Johnson

    McCain was busy helping the missus with her beer franchise so missed the VA scandal.

  44. Very interesting article.

    I actually highly reccomend a film called “Eyes Wide Shut.”

    The film, which stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, was directed by the late Stanley Kubrick and released back in 1999. It was extremely hyped at the time, especially given that Kubrick died several days after completing the film.

    While I won’t summarize the entire film, there is one very important scene in which Tom Cruise’s character sneaks into a large New York mansion and stumbles upon a Satanic sexual ritual/orgy. At the ritual/orgy, there are various individuals in costumes&masks who engage in debauched sexual practices with sex slaves. Later in the movie, one of the men there (who happens to be a prominent local Jewish socialite) tells Tom Cruise’s character that the Satanic sexual gathering was full of very important and powerful local figures. Tom Cruise’s character is ominously threatened into silence. At the end of the film, Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman allow their young daughter to be taken by the Satanic sexual abusers.

    After he was finished with the movie, Stanley Kubrick showed it to execs from Warner Brothers for the first time. They ended up getting into a contentious argument over the film. The next day, Kubrick (who was a very healthy man) was announced dead of a heart attack. Around 30 minutes of the film was later edited out by Warner Brothers before it was released. Supposedly (and this has NOT been confirmed) there were scenes of child sexual abuse in the original that Kubrick made, but this was edited out.

    The movie would go on to become very popular in “conspiracy” circles. Many of these people said that Kubrick (who was notoriously reclusive, enigmatic, and fond of “conspiracy theories”) was exposing the secret world of the Illuminati and their debauched sexual practices, including their sexual enslavement of children.

    There are very interesting similarities between the movie’s Satanic sexual gathering and an eerie real life Rothschild ball held back in 1972 (at one of the family mansions). The movie even used a Rothschild mansion (Mentmore Towers) as the setting for the Satanic sexual orgy.

    When you hear all the allegations being made against Epstein, it makes you wonder. The New York mansion. The weird Occult/Satanic temple on his island. The really young women coerced into orgies. The hordes of wealth, famous, and powerful people who “partied” with Epstein. The threats made against journalists and accusers who’ve come forward. The Jewish connection. The Rothschild connection (Dershowitz was introduced to Epstein by the Rothschilds). The Royal family and Prince Andrew connection (“Eyes Wide Shut” had a character with the surname “Windsor”). There are many similarities to “Eyes Wide Shut.”

    If we assume that the Illuminati (or a similar elite society) actually exists, maybe it makes sense that they would invite powerful people to attend their parties and engage in debauched sexual acts, especially with the underaged. By encouraging this, the society would get blackmail material on the elite of society. Once those elites were under blackmail, they’d be puppets. These compromised elites would also be willing to recruit more new members and bring them to the sexual parties.

    So perhaps Epstein started off by befriending a few of the elite (with the Mossad helping facilitate the social interaction). He then invited them to some type of perverse sexual party. Once Epstein got tapes and pictures of them, these elites then became Israeli pawns and also became willing to invite their elite friends to the parties.

    That may explain why Epstein became so popular and why no one was willing to take him down. That may also explain why everyone quoted in news articles always used to mention his supposed “brilliance.”

    Even Newsweek noted the similarity between “Eyes Wide Shut” and the Epstein situation.

    https://www.newsweek.com/eyes-wide-shut-missing-footage-epstein-kubrick-death-1449108

    If you’re interested in seeing the ritual that I mentioned above, here’s a short video from the movie. I wouldn’t be surprised if Epstein was doing something similar to this in his Occult/Satanic temple on his island.

    Rothschild ball held back in 1972. At 3:00, you see an unclothed child doll on a table.

    All sorts of eerie connections.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    , @Jake
    , @Miro23
  45. What this article should convince everyone of is that ‘rules but no rulers’ makes perfect sense. That’s what real anarchism means – rules but no rulers. If your immediate mental picture was of a bomb thrower, then your mind has been successfully infiltrated by the powers that shouldn’t be.

    Why is it that one person with the title of ‘President’ can declare things that affect the lives of millions of USians and billions world wide. No one should have that much power.

    “The way to get rid of corruption in high places is to get rid of high places.” – Frank Chodorov

    If the deep state has managed to install their puppets in positions of authority shouldn’t we all be trying to get rid of the positions of authority instead of rotating through that position replaceable candidates offered up by the deep state political parties?

    If you vote, you are tacitly approving of a system that has enslaved your mind.
    If you’re not an anarchist, you are part of the problem.

  46. Moi says:
    @Alden

    I guess why they named a convention center after him Homofrisco.

    • Replies: @Alden
  47. Kudos, Ron Unz. Excellent article and a useful tutorial on the hidden control mechanism of what the late Paul A. Samuelson called our “democratic oligarchy”.

    I applaud your parlor joke:

    “… that perhaps the best career move for an ambitious young politician would be to secretly commit some monstrous crime and then make sure that the hard evidence of his guilt ended up in the hands of certain powerful people, thereby assuring his rapid political rise.”

    A great French investigative reporter crafted an unfunny version:

    “Indeed, under our putative system of democracy, especially since JFK, the oligarchy will not allow the election of any candidate who cannot be blackmailed.”

    — Thierry Meyssan, Before our very eyes — fake wars and big lies from 9/11 to Donald Trump, p. 146.

    He had just described the 911 caper as a Cheney-led deep-state coup to activate the secret but long-standing CoG procedure to sideline the Constitution. It succeeded when clueless Dubya was reinstated as figure-head president within 24 hours after agreeing to the clique’s CoG (continuity of government) agenda, including the planned wars.

    No wonder the shenannigans of compromised office-holding puppets (actors, really) and their shadowy string-pullers never seem to be known to their spear-carriers in MSM.

  48. @niteranger

    Michele Obama had to surrender her law license to the Illinois State Disciplinary Committee

    Reference for this, please.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @anastasia
    , @Alden
  49. McCain was a psycopath and a traitor and proof of the zionists love of war and killers was their praise for this psycopath in his death and funeral and on the other hand no mention was ever made about the crime committed against the crew of the USS Liberty by the joint Israeli and zio/US attack on the Liberty, this shows how f##ked up this zionist ruled country has become!

    Get and read the book Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen about the joint Israeli and zio/US attack on the Liberty, who McCains father participated in the cover up of this war crime!

  50. Truth3 says:

    Ron Unz… American Treasure.

    Way to go, Sir.

  51. Arrow says:
    @Jimmy R

    Last I heard he was happily married to a 12 year old boy and living on a beach in Thailand.

  52. The number one career choice for aspiring crooks and fuckups is politics….McCain with his punk complex temper couldn’t have held on to job anywhere else.

    Perverts and psychopaths as well.

    “…nobody is going to be a thief with me as his accomplice,
    and that right there is why I’m going in no governor’s entourage.”

    Juvenal, Satires, Volume 3, (3.41-48) ~100 AD

    Now do not be vexed with me when I speak the truth. For there is no human being who will preserve his life if he genuinely opposes either you or any other multitude and prevents many unjust and unlawful things from happening in the city. Rather, if someone who really fights for the just is going to preserve himself even for a short time, it is necessary for him to lead a private rather than a public life.

    -Socrates, as quoted by Plato, Apology, (~400BC) 31e -32a
    http://www.sjsu.edu/people/james.lindahl/courses/Phil70A/s3/apology.pdf

    • Replies: @lysias
  53. Rich says:
    @Jimmy R

    The Diocese of Rockville Centre, where I live, has released a list of 61 priests accused of sexual misconduct. The Diocese of Newark, NJ has released a list of 82 priests. The Diocese of Brooklyn, NY has released a list of 108 priests. The Diocese of NY has released a list of 120. That’s a lot more than eight, and I think if the Church is willing to give us this many names, there are probably quite a few who managed to fly under the radar.

    I was raised a Catholic and really wish I didn’t have to accept this reality. I’ve read stories that the Church was infiltrated in the 20th century, and perhaps it’s true, but maybe it’s been going on for a very long time. It does seem to be a bit unnatural for a man to become celibate, and that might be one of the reasons so many deviants were attracted to the priesthood, I don’t know. I do know I never trusted any of them alone with my kids and I’d advise others to do the same.

    It’s a shame, because as a society we need some kind of moralistic code, but the Church has failed, or is at least failing, at this time in its history.

    • Disagree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @lysias
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Jimmy R
  54. @for-the-record

    This is a fact, and also Michael is a tranny, and everyone knows it but does not have the guts to say it.

    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Crimson2
    , @Alden
  55. @R.G. Camara

    What did Hillary know and when did she know it?

  56. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Kay Griggs was a military wife who learned way too much about her husband’s job. Her husband would drink too much and he started talking openly about the real workings of the U.S. military, leadership training, drug-running and weapons sales, and the secret worldwide camps that train professional assassins. His stories were about murder, corruption, assassinations, and government lies. After he disappeared for a short time, she began receiving threats and decided to tell her story.

    Kay is a professing Christian and was married to Marine Corps Colonel George Griggs in the late 1980s, who raised to an influential position as Chief of Staff. She came to realize that he was entirely mind-controlled. He abused and battered her when he drank.

    These unedited interviews with Pastor Rick Strawcutter of Adrian, Michigan, were conducted in 1998. Kay reports of world events and our current global scenario.

    During these interviews Kay Griggs exposes a long history of patent wrongs, which include: homosexual initiation rites in the U.S. military: particularly within the Marines; well-documented instances of both homosexual and hetero pedophilia, often as brazen rape, amongst U.S. military figures and notable senior statesmen, Henry Kissinger being named loudly by Mrs. Griggs.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @Jake
  57. lysias says:

    Was John Kennedy allowed to become president because they hought they had enough kompromat on him to control him?

    I wonder how Eisenhower was persuaded to permit the 1953 coup in Iran.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  58. lysias says:
    @Rich

    Clerical celibacy has been an obvious failure. And it is compelled by no doctrine, as is shown by the fact that there are married Eastern Rite and former Anglican priests in communion with Rome.

    • Replies: @ken
    , @R.G. Camara
  59. lysias says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    The Athenians were on to something when they had most political offices occupied by.average citizens chosen by lot.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  60. @Rich

    A job that requires celibacy is going to attract abnormal people. Period.

    More often than not, whenever I see a Catholic priest, he comes across as homosexual. Even in my own Protestant culture, where the “priests” are allowed to take females, there is something weird about most of them.

    (My mother once recounted to me, crying, how a married Methodist minister hit on her when she went to him for counseling.)

    And don’t get me started about “evangelical” preachers. I’ve met them too, and every one has struck me as an elixir salesman.

    Also, for those concerned about Jews, my impression of rabbis is that they are so far over on the spectrum that I don’t even want to go near. Like bears picking garbage, best left alone to take their pickings.

    Organized religion is for fools. Leaders of such organizations are exploiters of people. I say this as a believer in God.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  61. @Greg Bacon

    Some years ago I watched all of her interviews, she was a brave woman, wonder what happened to her?

  62. Many of us old enough to remember recognized McCain’s weeks-long funeral festival as, at bottom, a naked propaganda-ploy, akin to the funerals of Leonid Brezhnev or Konstantin Chernenko, and little more than The Establisment lewdly pleasuring itself. (Cindy and Meghan really know how to put the “fun” in funeral.)

    His family, reading on-line how much the American people detested him, decided it was better to bury Johnny Wetstart in a locked cemetery at Annapolis than having Johnny’s final resting place turned into a John.

    McCain personified the worst of our political establishment, and instead of honoring him with empty-headed hagiographies, we need to make an honest assessment of his life and rise to power.

  63. @Carlton Meyer

    This is all correct except for the bit about him being a “leading American neocon.”

    McCain was never a leftist or Marxist or Bolshevist. He never made that ideological conversion. Just because he was a blood-thirsty, inhuman warmonger, doesn’t make him a neocon. You can’t just throw that moniker out willy nilly. Words have meanings. See Paul Gottfried on this.

    Also, this is not a defense of the man. I hope he’s enjoying eternal damnation.

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @David In TN
  64. lysias says:
    @onebornfree

    Doesn’t the ancient Athenian system of government avoid most of the problems you complain of?

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  65. Nodwink says:
    @R.G. Camara

    I’m sorry that your organization has been exposed as a gigantic international paedophile ring.

    • Replies: @Alden
  66. TKK says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Joan Rivers said it outright- and died soon after during a day surgery for a minor cosmetic procedure. She was in good health and candid about her many surgical procedures.

    I don’t believe in coincidences.

    I will try and find the clip but I imagine it’s mysteriously gone.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Hans
    , @Republic
    , @Escher
    , @Nescio
  67. @R.G. Camara

    I’d argue that this is a direct result of the world wars. These wars drained the upper classes of their assets in every major participant country, on both sides, and put the assets into government.

    This left _nobody_ able to defend himself as an individual against government assaults. Political groups as groups could fight, but there were no more rich people. Daddy Warbucks became just another peon.

    The “help people you can control” idea has been around and actively used for my entire professional career. It’s the reason that very little Western activity is productive today.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  68. @renfro

    The number one career choice for aspiring crooks and fuckups is politics….McCain with his punk complex temper couldn’t have held on to job anywhere else.

    What better career than puppet for sociopaths?

    Counterinsurgency

  69. @niteranger

    We have no chance of getting to the truth on anything because to even ask a question is now an act of racism, antisemitism, and hatred.

    That’s coming apart now as the various POC groups start to fight each other and White/Jewish leadership proves inept or senile, with replacement bench that’s a little more exotic than an old time nuthouse.

    The USSR was all fangs and claws domestically and internationally, and when belief went, so did the USSR.

    Counterinsurgency

  70. More related reading: “Was Vince Foster’s Murder PizzaGate Related?” http://dcdave.com/article5/161213.htm and “An Enormous Crime: The Definitive Account of American POWs Abandoned in Southeast Asia” http://www.dcdave.com/article5/100303.htm.

  71. Pancho says:

    Actually, the New York Times is currently our national toilet paper of record,

  72. Agent76 says:

    Jun 19, 2019 Executive Over-Reach: Pompeo Dismisses Congress In Push for Iran War

    [MORE]

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has made it clear to Members of Congress that he does not believe any Congressional authorization is necessary for a US war against Iran. Pompeo claims the post-9/11 authorization to fight al-Qaeda is sufficient. Will Congress roll over?

    9/23/1975 Tom Charles Huston Church Committee Testimony

    Tom Charles Huston testified before the Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, commonly known as the Church Committee, on the 43-page plan he presented to the President Nixon and others on ways to collect information about anti-war and “radical” groups, including burglary, electronic surveillance, and opening of mail.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?408953-1/tom-charles-huston-testimony-church-committee

    March 19, 2017 The CIA’s 60-Year History of Fake News How the Deep State Corrupted Many American Writers

    Whitney’s new book, “Finks: How the C.I.A. Tricked the World’s Best Writers,” explores how the CIA influenced acclaimed writers and publications during the Cold War to produce subtly anti-communist material. During the interview, Scheer and Whitney discuss these manipulations and how the CIA controlled major news agencies and respected literary publications (such as the Paris Review).

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46688.htm

  73. Zumbuddi says:
    @Brabantian

    Bookmark.

    Especially interested in the Meyer Lansky link, and bootleg operations in Akron-Canton, OH.
    Murders in Canton were blamed on the Italian community and “Black Hand,” but a journalist found a connection to Jewish mob in Chicago & LasVegas. He prepared a manuscript but was killed before it could be published.
    I read parts of the MS at Canton Library. When I returned to read more or copy it, it was gone.

    Akron-Canton is an intriguing place. It was a prosperous industrial hub, and appears to have attracted a Jewish community: Stuart Levey is from that area; so is Neocon Mike Morell and also Zvi Weiss who formed a small organization that had the big effect of introducing Holohoax ed. To US universities & military academies.

  74. bjondo says:
    @Jimmy R

    Infiltration by homosexuals at all levels of the church power structure.

    And,

    Sabrina Rubin Erdely, Jew.

    From the mouth, pen, malicious imagination of Yid.

    Fabricated UVA, Navy, and Catholic rape stories.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Erdely

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/jury-finds-reporter-rolling-stone-responsible-for-defaming-u-va-dean-with-gang-rape-story/2016/11/04/aaf407fa-a1e8-11e6-a44d-cc2898cfab06_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.30c054c9841f

  75. @The Alarmist

    How is it we don’t yet have a Grand Unifying Theory that links the seemingly unconnected paedophelia stories that have simmered simultaneously in D.C., Westminster, and Brussels over the past couple of decades?

    GUT here would be the confiscation of private wealth to fight WW II. This gave a powerful government and nothing except left wing political groups to fight it. WW II was a long time ago, and now we have Trump, a rich guy with ample experience fighting government in NYC, who was and is fighting government in alliance with an actual voting block.

    Control of an imperial government automatically removes any connection with physical reality. Everything becomes “political reality”, and in politics reality is control. Hence use of everything available to control the top members of formal government (also, we have the extreme situation of cities that are money pits, living off of foreigner’s votes and bizarre calls for “charity” tax money).

    Then the “third generation” gets control of the whole corrupt apparatus, through sheer longevity, and act like arrogant late teens. Bingo, we have today’s situation.

    Search for “Parkinson Injelititis” for a description of analogous emergent behavior in business, and a proposed cure that we may find ourselves applying. Search for “toquevile The Ancien Régime and the Revolution”_ also. Alexis de Tocqueville saw the same emergent behaviors as did Parkinson, but from a different historical era. Note that the 7 Year’s War and John Law’s financial antics had also impoverished the rich before the era Alexis de Tocqueville describes.

    Counterintelligence

  76. Amazing article. I could have sworn, though, that John Podesta himself, not his brother Tony, was the bizarro art collector.

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
  77. The first step in exorcising a demon is to learn the demon’s name. If you don’t even know who the enemy is the situation is hopeless.

    We are at step number one here. We are actually in a far better situation than we were in August 2001.

  78. @RoatanBill

    If you’re not an anarchist, you are part of the problem.

    Yet another person saying that throwing everything away will yield to perfecti0n.

    It didn’t do that in the Middle East.

    Counterinsurgency

  79. A good introduction to the topic of pedophile blackmail rings is Nick Bryant’s The Franklin Scandal, which builds on John DeCamp’s The Franklin Coverup. Like the cases of Jeffrey Epstein and Jimmy Savile, the two Franklin books offer well-documented proof that pedophile blackmail is rampant at the top of the US and UK power hierarchies.

    • Agree: SunBakedSuburb
    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
    , @Jake
  80. Suspicions are one thing. The problem with these Pizzagate theories is that there is only innuendo and no solid footing. Print 20,000 of anyones emails and there would be plenty of seemingly suspicious connections and unexplained codes to connect to whatever you like. I would expect Mr Unz, who appears to be good with his statistics and probability, to realise this.
    Although, I admit that pizza logo was a truly horrible idea!!

    • Agree: Parisian Guy
    • Disagree: JohnnyWalker123
  81. @Nodwink

    I agree. I was astonished when I first read the McCann/Podesta link, and then the connection to the pervert MP Freud, thankfully now deceased, put a little more flesh on the bones.

    There are many. many instances of evil among the political class where the first heads up is Sherlock Holmes’ “curious incident of the dog in the night”.

    A lot of not barking goes on.

    • Replies: @Dan Kurt
  82. Sean says:

    Or perhaps certain political-puppeteers who had spent decades controlling that late Arizona senator sought to ensure that their political puppet-strings remained invisible even after his death.

    I think it had dawned on the establishment that you have to fight fire with fire, and show that real men opposed Trump. McCain was the closest thing they had, although he was from the military, a place where you learn bearing and discipline, rather than how to victimise others as in the cutthroat world of NYC property (where Harvey Weinstein made his money).

    “We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.” —C.S. Lewis

    McCain could choose to marry money because was very attractive to women, as he was to voters. Bill with Hillary and the current pres. I think you can see even Hillary was instinctively into alpha male types.

    Three sexually aggressive red blooded American men puffed up like bullfrogs, with proven political charisma and a habit of molesting women. Why were they so successful?

    “Liberal democracy produced “men without chests,” composed of desire and reason but lacking thymos, clever at finding new ways to satisfy a host of petty wants through the calculation of long-term self-interest. The last man had no desire to be recognised as greater than others, and without such desire no excellence or achievement was possible. Content with his happiness and unable to feel any sense of shame for being unable to rise above those wants, the last man ceased to be human.”
    – Francis Fukuyama, The End of History and the Last Man

    In his famous tome, Fukiyama specifically discussed Donald Trump as a colossus of thymos, the kind of individual who–coming from the business world rather than an enervated politics–would be willing to risk everything in a battle for the individual primacy that he prizes above all else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jacques Sheete
  83. Hans says:
    @Iris

    Iris, I think it is certain that there was an orchestrated infiltration of the Church probably using (((Freemasons))). I’m no expert but have heard that homosexuals were always deemed at threat and care was taken to weed them out at the earliest stages. That ended. Corrupt higher ups promoted and protected the pedos until decades of abuse had occurred and a gay mafia was ensconced.

    Alice von Hildebrand—Bella Dodd Recruited 1,100 Communists to Enter Catholic Seminaries –

  84. refl says:
    @getaclue

    As a reminder I would like to point out that the term “fake news” went viral right after the shooting incident at the famous Pizza restaurant.
    As I recall, the term had been in the news on and of some time before, and I always found it ludicrous as I assume that in any case one has to take into account that one news item or the other might be a plant (even a non-conspirationalist should allow for this possibility, as I remember from the times before I got myself that tinfoiled hat).
    However, after that incident Hillary Clinton had her first post election appearance where she urged that something be done against fake news, because it had had deadly consequences in that incident – which was even more ludicrous as for a shooting incident in the US, this one had been of the most inoffensive kind. Right afterwards, Obama started to press the issue on his farewell tour. So indeed, there might have been an urgent need to counter the unexpected election of Donald Trump.

    Maybe someone can give a more exact timeline on the events back then.

  85. Sherlock says:
    @RoatanBill

    I’ve been there in your thinking. Diehard AnCap.

    It doesn’t work. Get out of thinking in “ideals” and go towards the real. More Aristotle, less Plato. Humanity has unalterable traits that make anarchy impossible, tribalism being among them. Accept the realities of human nature, and develop a political philosophy from there.

    Also, the NAP begs a difficult question: what is “aggression?” As that is defined, real cultural divides emerge.

  86. alexander says:
    @Dr. Weezil

    How exactly do you define a “Neocon” ?

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Bragadocious
  87. MarkinLA says:
    @swamped

    The most urgent question though is why are so many high & mighty tempted by pedophilia in the first place

    Probably, the same reason why drug addicts go from smoking marijuana to shooting heroin. Banging normal heterosexual partners doesn’t do it anymore. Keep on searching for that original high.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  88. I can say that I have known about the paedo rings being used to blackmail and control of the world’s most powerful figures since the early 80s. Since my teenage years throughout my life I’ve known people who were in sometime contact with or mixed in the circles of certain celebrities and other powerful names have popped up from time to time. Besides a few band roadies there have been many young homeless kids among them. I travelled among street people and others on the periphery and partied with them in my youth for a while. I’ve also spent another year in prison albeit on remand and I eventually beat most charges but for serious enough things that I was accepted easily into some circles and again heard many more stories. This time about judges and police but other names popped up, some mafia families. Oddly enough I witnessed something in the seventies at a school in Sydney involving Rolf Harris and realise I saw the tip of the icebergl of a child trafficking situation literally as a primary school kid. All this has long become clear to me as exactly what is now being uncovered via the Epstein and Jimmy Saville cases and the now well documented history of paedo and homsexual blackmail rings. It is no surprise to me, any of it. There is even a lot of murder of children and brutal torture as well. Many names have been connected including McCain and the Bushes and of course the Clintons as well. Trump was mentored by Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn was a bigger fixer than Epstein ever was. However that makes Trump a gaylord. One of Cohns pretty boys. Rumours are Trump’s wives have been his beards. Along with some of the stories at least of women, just sometimes paid accusations meant to make him seem more like leaders are expected to be in the USA. Basically JFK was loved for not keeping his dick in his pants, same as Clinton. Yanks secretly expect to see big powerful men shagging like dogs. Very basic and simple minded people yanks.

    [MORE]

    Anyway everything you speculate about is true Ron and much much worse. I have a friend in Mexico who specialies in dealing with victims of ritual abuse and the very worst rape cases imaginable . Sometimes drug cartel victims but about half he women she helps have been involved in ritual abuse and trafficking by very powerful Americans and others. She herself was a victim of some of it as a young girl.

    This is how the world works. Paedophilia and ritual murder are the glue which bind the elite whose actual talents and skills rarely would amount to them coming even close to such levers of power or responsibility. The incompetence is not feigned, it is not some double fake or anything. They are mainly about dirty, filthy actions against others and their own immediate gratification. They don’t even know how badly they are doing the tasks they appear to hold control over. There’s obviously a ‘deep state’ as such behind them and any real planning goes on there, but there’s not that much real intelligence among them anymore either. Too much inbreeding. The planet is in real trouble. Something has to give soon. Anyone who has anything up their sleeves and has bene waiting for the right time, should know that there has never been a better time. The ones who would stop you normally are keeping their heads down. Their wickedness is too close to being exposed and they are suddenly going to be passive for a while till they see which way the wind blows. Hopefully Epstein is well protected by honest people.

    So called intelligence agencies’ are mostly all connected and they are the hand of the Banksters. The real power over it all. The intel agencies run organised crime, every form of extortion and blackmail, terrorism, arms trading, drugs and trafficking, slavery etc but they do not do it on behalf of the nations they supposedly serve. They do it in order to control those nations. Truly a tightly locked up ship.

    • Replies: @Nodwink
  89. Hans says:
    @TKK

    here it is –

    • Replies: @TKK
  90. Republic says:
    @Nodwink

    I don’t think that Podesta was involved in that kidnapping in Portugal.

    The best explanation of the McCann’s disappearance is one put forth by a local Portuguese journalist who accused the McCann’s of a cover up. His book said that the McCann’s, both physicians had drugged the child in order to go drinking. Upon returning they found the child dead. They then used their car and buried the child. The McCann’s sued the journalist for libel. They won the case, but on appeal, the highest court in Portugal threw out the verdict, stating that all the evidence did not prove the McCann’s to be innocent.

    I understand that the McCann’s have raised over 8 million dollars for the “search.”

    • Agree: LondonBob
  91. @MarkinLA

    Drug addicts going from cannabis to heroin? That old nonsense. Long disproved and if that’s the level of your knowledge you’re a waste of time. Paedophilia…are you kidding me you think it is some form of rare deviation? It is almost a universal lust and anyone who denies it is hiding behind denial. The more anyone denies they are titillated by the thought the more I suspect a paedo in hiding. It is so simple and whether or not it has even been acknowledged by psychology I do not care. Anyone whose first experiences of sex began at an early age will always find that memory to be the most titillating, whether or not they ever act upon such lust. Naturally most adults with such memories (often remarkably innocent such as early games of “doctors and nurses” with the girl next door or your cousin whatever. I’ve heard many first experiences and there’s a remarkably common theme in Western lives anyway. Of course there can be other experiences, some are victims of rape and in some people this leads to offenders too.

    In the end the main reason rich and powerful people would bedrawn not merely to be titilated by but to act upon such fantasies will be pure and simply power. Cruel people like to exercise cruelty over the weak and innocent because that satisfies their own broken soul, and others will be seeking a gratification from the suffering and even death of their victims. These people are gluttons for pleasure they have no empathy whther due to being sociopaths or from insulation from humanity which their iivory towers can easily give them. Nobody goes from normal sex to profoundly violent and sick perversions anymore than anyone goes from cannabis to heroin you silly man. Drug addicts begin with whatever, be it pot, coffee or mothers milk but they will seek that serotonin rush from using it to ecess until thjey find a new high and begin again to seek that endless rush of satisfaction. They were never normal, they began broken and nothing they try will ever fix that the way they want. Perverts are always perverts, but their expression of it awaits the opportunity. Great wealth and power grants opportunity. This is the truth and ridiculous old anti pot propaganda is not. Most people I know who smoke pot have tried other things over their lives but they smoke pot and have no interest in anything else. They never were addicts, just people with curiosity. Most people I know admit they have lusts they’d never act upon bvecause it is just wrong. I do not know any perverts. I do know that perverts deny any of these things, as it is too close to home.

    • Replies: @Rich
  92. A.R says:
    @Robjil

    She is a member of the Scientific and Professional Advisory Board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation…

  93. @Kevin Barrett

    Brother Kevin. Mint Press News is running a truly breathtaking expose in several parts of the whole sordid history going back to the forties and fifties. Absolutely the last word as far as I’ve so far seen. The Franklin Scandal, the mafia connections and Larry King, Roy Cohn, oh all the big names right up to present day’s events. Quite a ride so far and there’s more to come.

    If you’ve not seen it, I think it will blow your mind.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/?fbclid=IwAR1BE9uCmdI0NKmAJdeTjwIpNcrBKtMuKUsAYLsd558P5kiTWDYk6HFFkho

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/?fbclid=IwAR0bE4K5altZ1Ko2V7g5-BcWF3-mE2MHKiRV0ELI3TvtV7oQZJ_N0cz8VXA

    • Replies: @lloyd
    , @Skeptikal
  94. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Perhaps God works in mysterious ways in the case of Voris.. but only as long as the net result is galvanizing the faith of the true militant Catholics and not “scandal” (the losing of the Faith amongst simpler or badly-cathequised Catholics). Voris is gay himself, with -I think- an uncompleted conversion, an unhealed narcissistic wound, and can only see the homo-network as essence and cause of the problem. Catholic thought requires a more complex approach: trascendental, historical, political (homo networks who want a comfy living), dogmatic and practical (liturgy, community life).

    But of course the homo-heresy must be resisted.

  95. fnn says:

    Remember that the late Andrew Breitbart was somehow able to “predict” Pizzagate in a 2011 tweet:

    How prog-guru John Podesta isn't household name as world class underage sex slave op cover-upperer defending unspeakable dregs escapes me.— AndrewBreitbart (@AndrewBreitbart) February 4, 2011

  96. Durruti says:
    @onebornfree

    So whats to be done? Isn’t that the big question here?

    You raise the question, then fail to answer it. Hell! You do not even attempt an answer.

    Just what is the CURE you advocate for the ills that plague us? Be specific. If you raise the
    question, then answer it!

    [MORE]

    Your:

    Without an generally accepted understanding of the true nature of all states and governments, we are lost, as far as I can see.

    Is only a restatement of your defeatist message. Do you propose to establish a NO STATE solution?
    Such as – illiterate humans wandering around in family groups, dressed in animal skins (hunter gatherers). What will they hunt? The Zionist Oligarchs would love that. They, of course, will not give up their Chosen state. The weakness of Europe and America is the key part of their intentions to rule ALL. You – already “are lost.”

    There is an egalitarian – Libertarian solution to the evil of the Zionist New World Order.

    In our USA, A small Constitutional Government, answerable to a Rabble in Arms should do the trick.

    *Rabble in Arms, title of a lovely book by Kenneth Roberts. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/214434.Rabble_in_Arms

    Questions for Non governmenters.

    1. Who will be responsible for credit to businesses (The Zionist Bankers?)

    2. And – – – Fire departments, police, sanitation, zoning, food & water quality, education, peaceful redress of grievances, insurance, traffic control, trade, borders, hospitals, , , , ,

    Wait! we do not need these?

    Anarchists are very sensible people. We understand the need for small Republican government (separation of powers), preservation of Liberty and Life. Try to be Happy if you and your family and neighbors have no home or food or potable water (not to mention TV & Internet).

    America must survive, and its Republic, destroyed on November 22, 1963, in a wave of gunfire, needs to be restored. One Nation under God, with liberty & Justice for all.

    Any ideas of helping the enemy (who already controls our Government), to finish looting and destroying the Economy and Honor & Spirit of our Country (by further weakening it), is, at best, stupid, and at worst, a service to the agents of the Rothschild Zionist Oligarchs.

    Our American Citizens’ decline to greater weakness only aids the enemy.

    Durruti for the Anarchist Collective

  97. If you have any question whether pedophile blackmail is longstanding core US policy, just look at the reservation the US entered to the CRC-OPSC. CRC-OPSC is the anti child-trafficking protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child. US reservations are formulated by DoS in appointive-level interagency consultation with agencies including DoJ and CIA. The US government reserves the right to disregard its obligations in a “narrow range of situations.” This “minor technical discrepancy” is one that CIA is ideally positioned to exploit with its control over plane and ship registration for covert operations. Look at paragraph 10 below.

    https://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/crc/docs/CRC.C.OPSC.USA.2_en.pdf

    Geffen has his BF yacht sourced from CIA industrial contractor Larry Ellison. Epstein has his private planes, including the one sharing CIA-controlled tail number N474AW*. This is one way CIA maintains impunity for pedophile child trafficking and concomitant blackmail – by making its DoJ focal points disclaim jurisdiction. CIA used the same cheap trick to evade prosecution for torture. This is boilerplate CIA impunity policy.

    * https://www.madcowprod.com/2019/07/12/jeffrey-epstein-the-cia-dyncorps-n-number-n474aw/

    CIA doesn’t just have impunity for child trafficking. It has municipal-law impunity for murder, torture, war crimes, and crimes against humanity and peace. That makes the USA a failed state that has forfeited its sovereignty.

    If you step back and look at the gestalt, you see your problem is the CIA regime. It is a criminal enterprise. Nothing will change till we knock it over or decapitate it in a war.

  98. Rich says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Obviously, not all marijuana users move on to heroin, but stats show that just about all heroin users did start with marijuana. The recent propaganda campaign to pretend that marijuana is not a dangerous drug appears to be working as well as planned. Except that scientific evidence shows that marijuana users not only often move up to harder drugs, they risk schizophrenia, lower IQ, breathing problems and other health issues. For those who giggle about marijuana being a “gateway drug” there are a long line of heroin addicts who wish they’d never taken that first hit as a teenager.

  99. Consider also the remarkable case of British television personality Sir Jimmy Savile. Only shortly after his death at age 84 did the press begin revealing that he had probably molested many hundreds of children during his long career.

    Actually it was only after he died and left a lot of money to charity that numerous women started to claim he has sexually molested them at a young age so that they could jump on the compensation wagon.

    If all the claims are to be believed, he was Britain’s most prolific pedophile ever, and also Britain’s most prolific serial rapist.

    There is no doubt that he was an odd personality, never married, and liked the company of young women (the age of consent is 16 in Britain) , but none of the allegations against him have every been conclusively proved, the accusers have nearly all remained anonymous, and many of them are frankly bizarre, and improbable, or allegedly occurred in places where he had never been.

    For example after his death there were allegations that he had sexually molested female patients at Leeds General Infirmary (Hospital) where he worked as a celebrity volunteer porter.

    I worked at another large hospital in Leeds during this period (Savile was nationally known as a celebrity disc jockey and TV presenter at the time) and I never heard a whisper about him or any kind of inappropriate behavior at the hospital via the hospitals gossip grapevine. He lived in a penthouse apartment on the edge of Roundhay Park, less than 10 minutes walk from where I lived.

    I am very sceptical about the allegations and think they had a lot to do with compensation culture.

    Incidentally I did not even like the guy when he was alive and was certainly not a fan.

    This video report is presented by Jon Snow whom I knew personally as a student radical at the University of Liverpool circa 1970 in the days when I had long hair and he was doing an undergraduate degree in law.

    • Disagree: Gordo
    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  100. @Buzz Mohawk

    Wrong. You got more pedo stuff going on in Jewish circles & eastern Orthodoxy. Pity you don’t understand Croatian & Serbian, because there is an illuminating vid when a Croatian journalist interviews a Serbian priest who had been persecuted in Serbia for his exposure of pedo violence among Orthodox priests, especially among high & even highest hierarchy.

    Pedo faqqotry has virtually nothing to do with celibacy. It is a product of a sick & depraved society. You don’t have pedo scandals in Croatia, Poland, Slovakia etc. because our priests, well, have permanent mistresses & everybody knows about that. Our “celibate” priests are normal.

    Only in the US, Ireland, Austria etc. – faqqotry.

    • Replies: @Rich
  101. Anonymous[438] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Who is Chelsea’s father?

  102. Sparkon says:

    CIA doesn’t just have impunity for child trafficking. It has municipal-law impunity for murder, torture, war crimes, and crimes against humanity and peace. That makes the USA a failed state that has forfeited its sovereignty.

    Not so fast.

    That’s a wild flight of logic to argue that somehow the entire USA is accountable for any and all CIA crimes, especially since many of them, probably most, have been committed in secret, entirely compartmentalized, and even now we probably almost certainly don’t know the full extent of the CIA’s criminal actions.

    I’m pretty sure virtually certain that the vast majority of Americans are definitely not pedophiles, and reject entirely the idea of sex with minors, so your attempt here to blame the whole country for the crimes, depravities, and weird appetites of a tiny minority makes no sense, save to distract attention from the guilty parties.

  103. Jimmy R says:
    @Rich

    Diocese of Newark, NJ has released a list

    I’m guessing this came from civil litigation in which case I’d be extremely skeptical of it and any cases either involving one victim and/or a deceased perpetrator. My hunch is this would eliminate 80% of the cases. As a long-time investigator (w/ a badge and/or creds) who’s worked thousands of cases I’ve seen it all. Things are rarely what they seem and almost never how they’re portrayed.

    Marty Baron went on from his role if decimating the Boston Catholic Church and American Catholicism to the Washington Post where last year he and his Post reporters received a Pulitzer for their investigation and documentation of Russian collusion in the 2016 election. The reports you hear about priest abuse in various archdioceses/diocese, view them with the same degree of skepticism you’d have if you knew every source/informant contributing to the Mueller investigation and report became a millionaire with no liability for his or her testimony.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, Iris
    • Replies: @Rich
  104. Skeptikal says:
    @Republic

    A guy who specializes in detecting signs of lying in witnesses etc. did a long analysis of a video of Mr. McCann and maybe also his wife. His method is I think called Statement Analysis.

    I think this is it:

    He zeroed in on specific statements and behaviors that McCann did that indicated he was lying. It is called “embedded confessions.” People overreach in their responses in various ways.
    It was quite sophisticated. Not just something like eye blinks, but ways in which McCann incriminated himself by not cleverly not answering certain questions or by saying more than was asked—adding details—in a way that showed it was part of his “story.”

    I

    • Agree: Republic
    • Replies: @Jake
  105. peterike says:

    Kind of makes you wonder about the inexplicable rise of the lackluster non-entity Obama, and all the ongoing “Bathhouse Barry” rumors.

    Sure enough, the big “anti-war” candidate Obama took the war machine to the next level, and he flipped like a switch on gay marriage. He let the NSA run rampant on domestic spying operations. And, not that it needs any reminding, after “the biggest financial scandal since the Depression!” the number of financial executives who were arrested during Obama’s terms when it all came out in the wash remains at exactly zero.

    • Agree: eah
  106. @Red Pill Angel

    It is Tony Podesta who collects the creepy art, not John. Yet another Mandela Effect moment for me.

  107. @JohnnyWalker123

    More connections between Epstein, the Clintons, and the Rothchilds.

    Conspiracy theories are coming to life.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  108. Charles says:
    @R.G. Camara

    A comments section (and one having to do with John McCain) at the Unz is a strange place to bring this out, but – though the Roman Catholic Church exists, and will ’til Time ends, it is NOT the false Catholicism (the “Novus Ordo” of Vatican II) of The Robber Church, so named by the late Patrick Henry Omlor. Again, to be clear, the Roman Catholic Church does exist, but it is not in possession of historical, physical church buildings or seminaries. Those almost exclusively are in the hands of the false church, though within the last twenty years a handful of true Catholic parishes and a small number of genuine Catholic seminaries have come into existence.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anonymous
  109. TKK says:
    @Republic

    I believe the daughter is too worried about being accepted in MSM and Hollywood to even lightly explore the the possibility of murder. She goes the malpractice route.

    She seems a bit glib and blasé over her mother’s Death.

    This sounds dramatic and over the top, but I have always found Michael Obama to be demonic. Aside from the line backer shoulders, manly energy and frothing hatred of whites ( who support her in queenly fashion) – I believe her to be a sociopath.

    • Replies: @renfro
  110. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    Even though Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea’s wedding, not Epstein. He looks effeminately weird, and his body language when confronted with a room of twentysomething women is bizarre. Standing there motionless, white as a sheet (for Palm Springs) with his arms folded, and then bending over! Trump is like the Iron John of Studio 54, trying to help Epstein be less of a geek.

    I have read about quite a few hedonistic people who bought private islands and instead of living a fantasy ended up in Nightmare Alley. Crying on the damp cockroach infested floor of his shared concrete coffin after trying to choke himself and with correctional officers laughing at him, Jeffrey is a warning about what to wish for. But we know Mossad agents are never friendless, see Jonathan Pollard who was granted Israeli citizenship while behind bars.

    • Replies: @eah
  111. getaclue says:
    @Jimmy R

    The Catholic Church was infiltrated by the Masons/Satanists/Communists into the highest levels of the Church and quite thoroughly– just one example is Cardinal Bernardin, who was THE most powerful Cardinal in the USA. When he died (reportedly of AIDS covered up) he had the Windy City Gay Men’s Choir show up to sing at his funeral at his request (thus giving the Church the equivalent of the finger from wherever he resides for Eternity) and the Masons, sworn enemies of the Catholic Church for hundreds of years, showed up in full Aprons to praise him. It is now known that credible allegations of Bernardin’s participation in at least 2 Black Masses as a Satanist, and the rape of 2 children, occurred and were documented and then covered up by his cabal in Chicago. The documents are now out. Bernardin pipelined in homosexual Seminarians tossed out of Central and South American Seminaries into the USA and along with others he worked with — did all he could to destroy the Church from the inside. (Archbishop Bugnini and Cardinal Baggio were also outed as high level infiltrated in Masons and transferred “down” as a result–this is documented in the book by Father Charles Murr of recent note “The Godmother” and Taylor Marshall has written of the Masonic “Infiltration”) Communist Bella Dodd also swore under oath she placed over a 1,000 Communists into the Catholic Church as “Priests” to destroy it. She said some became Cardinals and were very powerful. So what we are seeing in the billions paid out by the Church for homosexual predation and the devastation as to these terrible evil homosexual “priests” is the work of these groups against the Church. (The statistics prove it is homosexual predation and not pedophilia that is at issue.) All of this was predicted by past Popes and Holy people in the Church who actually had documents as to the various schemes leaked to them. The Globalist NWO Media just will not cover it and lies about it…– they do, however, just love the current Pope a great deal though –as do the Masons who sing his praises…what does that tell you?

    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @Jake
    , @Bubba
  112. TKK says:
    @Hans

    I couldn’t find it! Good sleuthing.

    I know she was a screeching catty celebrity but she seems like she’s telling the truth.

    • Replies: @The scalpel
  113. @Mike Johnson

    I had deep reservations about VA Medical Care when I was forced to cancel my Kaiser Plan due to the “Affordable Healthcare Act” premium increases. I was surprised to see clean facilities, emergency services 24/7/365, convenient clinics and a friendly staff . I’m scheduled for a VA optometrist appointment on August 9th, so we’ll see how that goes.

    I do miss Kaiser, though.

  114. Anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:

    After getting banned from Reddit, Pizzagate community moved to: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

    Plenty of archived material for those who are curious.

  115. The Jewish media is pulling out all the stops to align Trump with Epstein. RINOs, such as Christie and McCain represent the cabal of government One Party politicians who campaign to convince voters that they have a choice. They’re all meeting in backrooms and laughing at Americans who’ve fallen for that ruse We need to clean house, and install leaders who know what our Constitution limits them from doing.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  116. annamaria says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Mrs. Clinton has been at the forefront of vicious attacks on Assange.
    One wonders, how many pedophiles among those who have been bloviating about alleged “amorality ” of Assange?
    The UK, in particular, is in a moral pickle considering the sordid stories about the vigorous coverup of sexual crimes against children, which has been initiated from the highest echelons of power in the UK.

    https://www.rt.com/news/465279-assange-belmarsh-prison-torture/

    The UN special rapporteur on torture, Nils Melzer, visited Assange at Belmarsh Prison in London with two medical experts in May to access the extent of the ill-treatment the WikiLeaks founder has been subjected to over the years. Following the examination, Melzer wrote letters to the American, British, Ecuadorian, and Swedish governments outlining his conclusions.

    In the letters, made public over the weekend, Melzer appealed to the governments of the UK and Sweden not to surrender Assange to the US justice system, where the 48-year-old will likely be “tortured.” At the same time, he demanded a fair trial for Assange from the US.

    No, no, no… The US justice system is lenient only towards Meyer Lansky, Pollard, Epstein, and “madam” Maxwell.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/spying-lobbying-israel-fight-bds-intensifies-190620170711122.html

  117. @getaclue

    I found Catholic ceremonies and masses boring, endless and overly ritualistic. I do very much condone their charitable work, and their dedication to Christianity in the face of increasingly secularized cultural developments. The old church suffered an onslaught of child sexual abuse lawsuits and other scandals, but any large organization is bound to enlist some bad apples.

  118. Anon[535] • Disclaimer says:

    Matt Lauer asked Hillary some uncomfortable questions, and got “me too’ed”.

    Charlie Rose was supposedly known for loosening up a bit and talking a wee bit too much at various events. He got “me too’ed” also.

    Bill O’Rielly?
    Roger Ailes…….?

    The non-CIA plants can be blackmailed to toe the company line via scandal. The CIA certainly has the means to make scandals happen.

    Remember Elliot Spitzer? Strauss-Khan?

    PYTs (Pretty Young Things) can make fools out of older men with flattery and opportunity. Executive Producers, writers, and directors also.

    Never forget how Eric Margolis was tempted at Epstein’s Manhattan residence (offered a massage by a pretty young girl as soon as he walked in the door).

  119. Rich says:
    @Jimmy R

    I wish you were right, but the lists were provided by the various Dioceses themselves. The Church itself made up these lists of priests against whom they felt credible allegations were made. There are many others who were accused that the Church felt the charges weren’t credible and many others who were probably able to keep their predatory ways hidden. Most men who were molested don’t like to talk about it, and would never come forward. There are a variety of plausible reasons why there were so many homosexual and pedophile priests, but the Church has admitted its guilt, and has even asked for forgiveness. The Roman Catholic Church has admitted it was guilty of hiding these priests and bishops who molested people under the age of consent. I understand your desire to believe the Church was, and is, innocent, but as an investigator you have to admit that if the accused admits its guilt, offers substantial payouts to the victims, and begs forgiveness, they’re probably guilty.

  120. renfro says:
    @Greg Bacon

    If you’re a tiny ME nation that is doing a good job of occupying the most powerful military on Earth or if you’re some bankster gangster that wants to keep your fraudulent fiat money scheme afloat, our corrupt politicians are just what the doctor ordered.

    They look for potential candidates that are corruptible.

  121. ken says:
    @lysias

    It’s compelled by Jesus’ example and to be married to the Church. The priesthood and the Church has been damaged by homo-pederasts as the John Jay report found-overwhelming amount of abuse was on post-pubescent boys which is not pedophilia. In Germany the abuse statistics are nearly identical between Protestants and Catholics. In the US everybody sends there kids to public schools where they get raped and assaulted and guess what teachers can marry. Grow a frickin brain.

  122. renfro says:
    @TKK

    She is what I would call ‘a angry black woman’.
    And not bright, she made a speech at an immigrant swearing in and told them that even our founders (signers of the Del of Indep) were immigrants born outside the US…..that of course is true…..so much for her affirmative action university education .

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  123. Charles R says:

    Mr Unz, I think you should be very careful about your personal safety. You are a now in much personal danger.

    • Replies: @David Baker
  124. macilrae says:

    What a brilliant and erudite piece of writing – one to be savored multiple times for its insight.

    The author says:

    In physics, when an object deviates from its expected trajectory for inexplicable reasons, we assume that some unknown force has been at work

    Just exactly so, and when the power of money or loss of position seem insufficient to account for some of the most bizarre gambits and, yes, also total policy reversals, of our political elites – the force of downright blackmail is a pretty persuasive explanation.

    The collection of the necessary material is, right now, in the hands of a full-time army of zealots who are watching everyone and everything with just this objective in mind – and also of course they know all about you – and me. Just in case.

    Oh and, naturally, we pay their salaries.

  125. Anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    I have never looked much into Pizzagate but now that I have, I’m certainly beginning to suspect some of this could be true. The only thing is, where are all the victims? How could they keep this so quiet if so many children were supposedly involved? Were they all homeless/runaway kids? So were many of Epstein’s victims and they have come forward. Were they all illegal minors that Obama released into the country and couldn’t speak any English? But pedophiles only love white children. Were they all killed after they were abused? Hmm…

    • Replies: @lloyd
    , @Alden
  126. HEREDOT says:

    Another great article from Unz.

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @mark green
  127. @Charles R

    We’re all in “personal danger” as our government bolsters Hate Crime Laws and Anti-Terrorist legislation. That Jewish bully who punched the hapless conservative activist illustrated an early-but-significant development of Anti-Free Speech and Anti-Dissident campaigns. It can only go downhill from there…

  128. nsa says:

    “But consider the far different situation of Barney Frank……..”
    You bet it was different. Sticking one’s tool into the fecal matter of another male is a clear death wish. But what do you make of a repulsive fat bottom like the beloved Barney, the joo homo clown, taking it in a necrotic parody of the life creating act? He accepted his lot in life with humor and even panache, never strident or vituperative towards his detractors. At Fenway Park, the zesty foot long “Franks” were referred to as “Barneys”. And of course, as a jew he received very favorable treatment from the JudenPresse, getting him re-elected time after time.

  129. Jake says:

    I’ll say it yet again: all ‘this,’ all revolution is against Christ and Christendom. And everything to do with sexual revolution is a key part, probably the key part, of revolutionary war against Christ and Christendom.

    Both US parties and both UK parties are filled with people – donors and policy makers as well as elected and appointed officials – who are deep into the utter perversion sexual revolution, including pedophilia, which also gets to the point of murder.

  130. Wally says:
    @Richard Wave

    Ron Unz said:

    “There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of Pizzagate seems to raise obvious dark suspicions.”

    Though I’m sure Ron knows it, that could just as easily have said:

    ‘There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of the so called “holocaust” seems to raise obvious dark suspicions. ‘

    Indeed, follow the flak.

  131. @Bill Jones

    “Picky typo-asshole here, reporting for duty”

    Picky typo-asshole here, reporting for duty.

  132. Jake says:
    @getaclue

    Bernardin was part of the gay party scene in Charleston, SC, and he was recruited to enter the Church there. That gay scene was not local. Rich gays from all over the northeast and midwest as well as the South were part of it.

  133. gsjackson says:
    @Anonymous

    Bubba, who reputedly fires blanks, is supposed to have said: “Webb Hubbell sired her.” God knows, she looks like him.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  134. I also noticed that mere mention of Pizzagate had become politically lethal.

    That’s because it’s an incredibly dumb theory that has been debunked numerous times.

    • Replies: @lysias
  135. Jake says:
    @Skeptikal

    The McCanns were very low key people, average folks doing average things. And they stuck out as odd in their English world precisely because they were so old fashioned in terms of placing all emphasis on family and friends in a local community.

    That is exactly the type ‘Leave it to Beaver’ family that pedophiles who capture children prefer to target. Pedophiles love to pervert, and they know that the children of parents who are potheads or cokeheads, parents who are atheists/agnostics, parents who are deep into acceptance of sexual revolution probably will be perverted anyway.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  136. eah says:
    @Sean

    He looks effeminately weird, and his body language when confronted with a room of twentysomething women is bizarre.

    This is why you never see Epstein smile and show teeth in photos. He has hideous lizard mouth. He looks like he’s about to catch a fly with his tongue.

  137. Rich says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Sorry old man, but the Polish Bishop’s Conference admitted that between 1990 and 2018 382 clergy committed sexual abuse. We all wish it weren’t true, but we can no longer deny what the Church itself has admitted.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  138. Jake says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    And such pedophile activity was common and extremely powerful in England no later than the dawn of Victorianism.

    • Replies: @Alden
  139. gsjackson says:

    All due respect, but if UR is going down this road understand that it is a well-trod path and there are those who purport to be way, way further down it in their investigations. It is a much more sordid story than the bare outlines here. According to many, putting these international child trafficking networks and the political powers they serve out of business is the main reason Trump ran for office.

    Don’t know if this is true or not, but if it turns out to be — and supposedly it will hit the fan in the next several months — then UR readers will cross the finish line at about, let’s say, three and a half hours — a respectable enough marathon time for an amateur, and they did finish, but well behind the leaders.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  140. Ahoy says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=R6-gUqNPi4I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=8dTN36IlLuQ

    “I will splinter the CIA into thousand pieces and throw them to the wind”. JFK

    My gut feeling tells me that it is happening. The Epstein case is much bigger than Trump. It goes all the way to London and we all know who lives there.

  141. Jake says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Eyes Wide Shut is based on a novel by an Austrian Jew named Schnitzler, who knew the art and academic and super rich worlds of Vienna and Berlin very well. He knew that the decadent rich of post-Christian Modern Europe were perverted to the core – Gentiles as well as Jews.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  142. @Anonymous

    When I went to that site they said they were “checking my privilege.”

    I guess my white privilege must have been good enough, because they let me through.

    • Replies: @Republic
  143. Jake says:
    @Greg Bacon

    The US military was aping the British and the German militaries no later than the build up to the Spanish-American War. And both the British military and the Prussian military (which was the basis of the united Germany army) had gay and pedophile problems no later than the close of the 18th century.

  144. lysias says:
    @yallerdumb

    If Pizzagate has been debunked many times, no doubt you can direct us to at least one place where it has been debunked.

    • Agree: Alfred
  145. @refl

    According to this google trend page:

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=fake%20news

    it was the week of November 12 2016 that fake news took off.

    Trump’s election happened the week before.

  146. Skeptikal says:
    @Jake

    Well, I don’t know where you get this version of the McCanns.
    I woud prefer to go on evidence not on ad hominem fantasies about unknown people.

    It is true that I was led to this video by the possible connection of the McCann case to the Podestas (via the UR Pizzagate stories, in fact).

    However, I ended up finding the Embedded confession video quite convincing. Things in their stories didn’t seem to compute.

  147. Miro23 says:

    This video is quite hard work (40 minutes long in Dutch with subtitles), but it’s valuable testimony on the Pizzagate Mafia world. IMO quite genuine.

  148. lol at the Tara McCarthy video. So insanely stupid. Obama had a cut on his middle finger, ergo he’s a pedophile. Here’s a picture of Obama at the Pizza restaurant to prove it–except the picture was taken at the White House. No wonder you guys keep falling for the Iraqi Dinar scam.

    I mean, Hey, guys! Have you checked out the Iraqi Dinar investment opportunity? Trump will make you rich!

  149. @swamped

    The most urgent question though is why are so many high & mighty tempted by pedophilia in the first place

    While there is abundant evidence that the political class is composed primarily of sociopathic megalomaniacs, it’s a category error to conclude from the recent revelations that they’re ‘tempted’ by paedophilia.

    Rather, they are people who are selected and promoted for their willingness to perform reprehensible acts, rather than an actual desire to do so. (The two characteristics intersect, and probably significantly more than the societal average; in the same way, on average butchers are less squeamish about blood, than are housewives).

    Black male actors don’t do ‘drag’ roles because they want to; they do those roles because it pleases the people who control the arc of their careers.

    C.S. Lewis nailed it in his talk entitled “The Inner Ring”. Some people are extraordinarily keen to belong to a group they identify as ‘exclusive’; when that exclusivity involves access to unmerited wealth and power, it’s easy for the unscrupulous insiders to up the ante.

    FWIW, as part of an initiation I once stood with one trouser leg rolled up, a noose around my neck, a compass point held to my exposed left pectoral… in front of a glass coffin that held a human skeleton. Looking back it just seems monumentally retarded, but that’s humans for you.

    When faced with the inevitable downstream “Oh, we all do this”, I walked away well before crossing any serious moral lines. Two colleagues who faced similar choices, are now a Deputy Commissioner of Taxation and a QC, respectively.

    Make of that what you will… being a senior bureaucrat is no feat of skill or talent; being made Silk likewise marks one out as being ‘safe hands’, rather than a genuinely talented advocate (it’s possible to be both safe hands and a talented advocate, but the safe hands predominate among the “junior rabbis” of the modern QC/SC ranks).

    • Agree: Miro23
  150. Z-man says:

    Mc’Nutz, deservedly roasting in Hell.

  151. @Rich

    Fake news. And it was with females. Casanova himself had a relation with 9 years old girl & she loved it.

    Here in Croatia not a single instance with priests molesting children had emerged, although Austria & Soros funded media were frantically looking for it.

    Admit it: Slavic & Romance peoples are, with few exceptions, not prone to faqqotry, unlike Northern Germanic & Celtic (and, of course, Muslims of all stripes & colors).

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Nodwink
  152. lloyd says: • Website
    @swamped

    In the pagan world, powerful men had adolescent and pe adolescent boy slaves. Zeus set the example with his shepherd boy who was a child. It was actually considered remarkable not to be disposed to this. Christianity with its moral dicta against pedophilia spoken by Jesus himself repressed this so it became weird and unthinkable. In Islam, it is still normal but repressed by the Islamic general moral code. With the fall of moral Christianity, this has resurfaced in a rush. As C S Lewis once wrote. “Post Christianity is more evil than pre Christianity because the devotees are not ignorant but are consciously practising evil.”

  153. @Jacques Sheete

    THIS.

    It has been known since the ancients, that the people involved in politics are venal, grasping scum.

    Fortunately (for the political class) the bottom 4/5ths of humanity are so fucking stupid that the political grift persists.

  154. lloyd says: • Website
    @Rabbitnexus

    In the pagan world, powerful men had adolescent and pe adolescent boy slaves. Zeus set the example with his shepherd boy who was a child. It was actually considered remarkable not to be disposed to this. Christianity with its moral dicta against pedophilia spoken by Jesus himself repressed this so it became weird and unthinkable. In Islam, it is still normal but repressed by the Islamic general moral code. With the fall of moral Christianity, this has resurfaced in a rush. As C S Lewis once wrote. “Post Christianity is more evil than pre Christianity because the devotees are not ignorant but are consciously practising evil.”

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  155. Republic says:
    @Anonymous

    the anonymous imageboard, 4chan/pol has an archive of over 2700
    Posts on Pizzagate located at: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/pizzagate/page/1/

  156. lloyd says: • Website
    @Anon

    Every now and then a dead child is found and some derelect is charged and convicted. The derelects always at least initially insist on their innocence. Also children can be tossed dead into the sea and be eaten by fish. It was reported by author Linda Corby and a Jersey Island Council member that they counted one child less after a foster school holiday excursion on Ted Heath’s yacht on Jersey Island. The accusers would not have over due library books. The police refused to investigate.

  157. Bob says:

    I have a personal experience of abuse from someone involved in the Franklin Sex Scandal (Conspiracy of Silence). I also witnessed abuse of another person by this same individual. The abuser’s name was Peter Citron (now deceased).

    My experiences with Citron happened well before the Franklin story in Omaha. Citron was arrested but set free because my parents did not want me to testify against him. I was so young, I understood almost nothing.

    This is related to Pizzagate because Citron left Scarsdale after his case was closed and soon became active in the Franklin “Pizzagate-style” sex abuse group. For me, the ease with which Citron went from Scarsdale to become a member of that group is very telling.

    Pizzagate and Franklin both centered around powerful men with connections to the police, the FBI, and state and national politics. I know what Citron did to me and my friend. He was convicted in Omaha on many similar counts. I am all but certain the Franklin group was real and tend strongly to believe that Pizzagate is about another group much like Franklin.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    , @mcohen
  158. Very curious. All of this brings to my mind the peculiar Satanism and pedophilia hoaxes of the 80s. Janet Reno supposedly became Attorney General in the Clinton administration based on her record of Prosecuting these fake pedophilia or Satanism rings. However, it was a nationwide hysteria with other cases in Texas. Reviewing the cases makes it sound laughable that anyone could’ve fallen for this stuff, but as Derb occasionally reports, there are still people languishing in jail for it. There was a good expose a national review about six months ago.

    Also, I recall there were several made-for-TV movies about the scandals, as I recall watching them in the 80s, that seemed aimed to convince people that they were real. It seemed to be propaganda from major television networks, in other words. Usually leftist television propaganda is aimed at defending the defendants. It’s seldom aims at incriminating someone more.

    Do you think that this could’ve been linked to subject matter of the article in someway, as if it were some sort of elaborate smokescreen to draw attention away from the doings of some people in power?

  159. Republic says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter

    also

    https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611

    Fully Sourced Executive Summary of Pizzagate Evidence

    From 1/30/2017 archive

  160. Dissident says:
    @Miro23

    Trump wasn’t their candidate (which suggests that he’s clean), and (so far) he hasn’t enabled a war with Iran, so what happens with him is an open question.

    I wonder what makes you (or anyone) so sure that “Trump wasn’t their candidate”. From the time that he announced his candidacy in 2015 to the present moment, I have never found implausible the possibility that the President may be controlled opposition. Or, more mundanely, simply the self-promoting carnival barker that just about all evidence strongly suggests that he always was. How closely have you looked at Mr. Trump’s actual record, starting from before he announced?

    And, to what extent, since becoming President, has Mr. Trump actually opposed the Globo-Homo agenda?

    • Replies: @Miro23
  161. Republic says:
    @Miro23

    This Dutch banker recently moved to Florida and “drowned,” soon afterwards!

    He was a Dutch banker who exposed a high level child sex operation by the elites

  162. mcohen says:

    Has ron grown a pair.we shall see.

    As to epstein go backwards on this.the timing between epstein scandal and the election of boris to british prime minister is no coincidence

    1.boris
    2.jacob rees mogg
    3.his father william rees mogg
    4.senator john decamp
    5.franklin scandal

    Senator decamp described william rees mogg in his book well.download the article to connect the dots

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1997/eirv24n05-19970124/eirv24n05-19970124_066-nebraska_pedophile_scandal_is_re.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiO_KOMmtvjAhW44XMBHdGOBsEQFjALegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3nD2WTNs5_MEiqlqjb8YDD

  163. @Jonathan Mason

    I have 5 of David Ickes books, and David was exposing this in his books back around 1998, and everyone said he was nuts, telling the truth in a world of deceit is a revolutionary act-Orwell.

    • Replies: @Alden
  164. Rich says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Ivan Cucek and Drago Ljubcic were both priests convicted of child sexual abuse in Croatia, the former was molesting girls, but still, he was a molester. Of the 382 Polish clergy members the Church revealed as sexual predators, there were molesters of both boys and girls. I’m not sure how a lech like “Casanova” sexually abusing a 9 year old girl makes child rape okay in your eyes. Seems pretty disgusting to me.

    Homosexuality was legalized in Croatia in 1977 and homosexual relationships were given legal recognition in 2003. So someone must be fooling around in public bathrooms over there, right? Homosexuality in Russia has been legal since 1993, in Poland since 1932, in in Ukraine since 1991, in Serbia since 1994. It can’t all be German and English tourists, can it?

    I’m of Southern European heritage, so I’ll agree with you on the Romance people, no need to even look it up.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  165. @Dr. Weezil

    For the first several years of his political career, McCain was cautious about using military force, in particular, the run-up to the 1990-91 Gulf War.

    After his exposure in the Keating 5 scandal, McCain was an enthusiast for military force in seemingly every situation. From that time on, McCain went out of his way to court the press.

  166. *via the (((Central Bank))), alias “Federal Reserve”, and its money-manufacturing/debt-bombing/derivitive rackets,

    Jews control the collective and individual debt of the utterly corrupt ‘Murkan political class, as well as its wealth, campaign funding, and media access. While

    *Jew sexual blackmail/entrapment activities of the Epstein/Pedogate/Untermayer stripe provide a strong

    back-up control.

  167. Headline: “Our Reigning Political Puppets, Dancing to Invisible Strings”

    Comment: It is important to distinguish between a PUPPET and a USEFUL IDIOT.
    The commonaity is: both are being used by some 3rd party’s to further their own agenda.
    The difference is: the PUPPET knows his is being used, the USEFUL IDIOT not.

    For example, all US presidents since and including Wilson have been PUPPETS, except Reagan who was a USEFUL IDIOT, and JFK who was neither. And the 3rd party pulling the strings has always been the owners of the private central-bank and currency.

  168. Bork says:
    @getaclue

    Is the Q thing also for real? I have never really followed it and seen it “debunked” on a site that made it sound like lunacy but this makes me wonder….

    According to a credible anonymous poster called “purplechan” on 8ch/pol the Q thing was a desinformation operation. Purplechan gained credibility by posting inside information about the Trump campaign and on going government issues. He leaked the Kushner peace plan months before it was announced and also the Iran pre battle plan among other things. Trump apparently derailed the latter on a whim. For you that dont know what 8chan/pol is, its insanity mixed with insightsful stuff you dont find elsewhere.

    • Replies: @sayless
  169. You notice something else, notice how Trump seems to give the Epstein business wide berth. He drags the Liberals over the coals about everything else, gives credence to every conspiracy theory, like the Obama fake birth certificate etc. etc., but on epstein he seems to know to keep clear, unless im mistaken. I don’t really follow his tweets obsessively.

  170. @Rich

    You are right about Drago Ljubičić. I didn’t know about him. As for Čuček, this was a more complex case & it seems it was a setup. I have only noticed that in past 10 or so years everybody was constantly talking about these molesting priests; there were approximately 6 fake news cases which were quickly unmasked as Soros-funded media moral panic. No one here truly believes in the legend of diabolic pedo priests; Ljubičić was a minor priest in a godforsaken island of Rab & his case is atypical- he is evidently a pedo psycho.

    What is more important is that this all has nothing to do with celibacy. Father Seraphim, Serbian Orthodox priest was harassed & assaulted because he exposed homosexual pedo exploitation among highest levels of Serbian Orthodox Church, including archbishops & similar highly positioned people like Vasilije Kačavenda.

    My main point is: homo pedo exploitation has nothing to do with celibacy; as for homosexuality in Croatia, it is, in my opinion, not recognized as it should be, because we have so few of them & they are so decent people that they should have better treatment. In my life I’ve met only 2 gays, and both were married with children. Our “pride” parade is a joke with minimal attendance & with gays from all of ex-Yugoslavia coming to, so to speak, show they exist & follow the trends. Their main annoyance is whistling.

  171. I had the son of Chuck Hamel in my class and eventually as a graduate student.

    His father had proven the major oil companies were cheating to the tune of billions on royalties due the state of Alaska. The way he did it was hire tankers to deliver crude profitably at much lower cost/barrel than the majors were claiming.

    The instant Chuck Hamel hit the pages of the newspapers, they have the firm Wackenhut taking his garbage, spying on him, and hiring a beautiful hooker to bed him and then wreck his marriage.

    Chuck said his father’s advice was this: if a beautiful young girl approaches you, and I mean you pull 6’s and this girl is a 10… then something’s wrong.

    If you play ball, your life is paved ahead with gold until the day they whack you with an MS-13 soldier. McCain is about the most disgusting, despicably corrupt war criminal we’ve ever had, while Ron Paul was treated as some kind of lunatic at the same time.

  172. MLK says:

    A few comments on Epstein. First, exercise some common sense. The timing of the resuscitation of his case is anything but coincidental. Whomever made that happen — like flipping a light switch — is sending a message and applying leverage. My guess would be in the context of the conspiracy against the duly elected POTUS. The malefactors will take some hostages as they’re exposed and indicted.

    No publicly released details should be naively accepted. For example, it makes no sense to me that he just happened to be flying back to the US. I assume he was effectively renditioned.

    Acosta is anything but a mystery. He was told to make this go away. You’ll note that no one asked Robert Mueller about the case when he testified last week even though he was FBI Director at the time. Maybe he was suffering from dementia back then too!

    All I know is that I correctly predicted right after Epstein’s arrest that Weissmann and the other Mueller staff wouldn’t testify behind closed doors as they were scheduled to. Mueller’s testimony was delayed for a week. In my view to arrange a deal so that he wasn’t asked anything about this under oath and to otherwise act like he could no longer knew how tie his shoes.

    That said, it really is a fool’s errand to try to find out a high level play like this. Usually there are many moving parts.

    We shall see.

    • Replies: @Nescio
  173. @lysias

    The Athenians were on to something when they had most political offices occupied by.average citizens chosen by lot.

    Much more so than us, but still very far from ideal.

    • Replies: @Bert
  174. Olorin says:
    @Tusk

    One of the details that froze my marrow was the 4Channers who discovered that James Alefantis had as his avatar a statue (Prado iirc) of the the emperor Hadrian’s loverboy Antinous. The cult of Antinous was well known among the ancients and since, up to and including certain well connected modern urban gays, as a pedophile cult.

    • Replies: @Tusk
  175. @lysias

    Doesn’t the ancient Athenian system of government avoid most of the problems you complain of?

    If I may answer that, the answer is, “no.”

    For details you may start with Thucydides’, the Peloponnesian War and particularly the Sicilian extravaganza-adventure which should have been known as the Silly War.

    • Replies: @lysias
  176. Dissident says:
    @Dan Hayes

    BTW, some time ago our patron Ron off-handedly accepted as factual the Globe narrative.

    Isn’t that just what Mr. Unz has done in this very piece?

    The most obvious example is the Catholic Church, and the failings of its American and international hierarchy in that regard have regularly made the front pages of our leading newspapers. But until the early 2000s and the breakthrough reporting of the Boston Globe as recounted in the Oscar-winning film Spotlight, the Church had routinely fended off such scandals.

    Can I be the only one who finds the irony of the above paragraph, juxtaposed as it is not only with the rest of this particular piece of our host’s writing but what would appear to be the bulk of it that is published on this site, rather striking?

    “The breakthrough reporting of the Boston Globe as recounted in the Oscar-winning film Spotlight”? One wonders what makes Mr. Unz so confident that the coverage-in-question that he characterized thusly could not at least as plausibly be characterized as, The highly tendentious attack of the Boston Globe as sensationalized in the film SPOTLIGHT. Or perhaps even The hatchet-job of the Boston Globe as sensationalized in the agitprop film SPOTLIGHT.

    Has Mr. Unz considered the possible and likely motivations behind at least many of those who have led this attack on the Roman Catholic Church? That the alleged scandalous crimes may have served as a convenient pretext for attacking it?

    For someone who prides himself on questioning mainstream narratives…

    I was similarly struck by a paragraph from earlier in the piece, concerning J. Edgar Hoover (emphasis in quoted text mine- Dissident):

    Today, it is widely accepted that longtime FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover lived his life as a deeply-closeted homosexual and there seem to be serious claims that he also had some black ancestry, with the secret evidence of these facts probably helping to explain why for decades he stubbornly refused to admit the existence of American organized crime or focus his G-men on efforts to uproot it.

    “Facts”? Did Mr. Unz establish that what is alleged in the rumors he cited and characterized as “widely accepted” and “serious claims” were facts? In this piece? I read through it and found no such evidence presented.

    Additionally, I make the observation that most if not all of the various mainstream narratives that Mr. Unz challenges are, if nothing else, obviously widely accepted and seriously claimed to be factual by many. Thus, again, I cannot help but to find more than a tinge of irony in the juxtaposition-in-question.

    Finally, concerning Jeffery Epstein, Mr. Unz writes,

    numerous underage victims began coming forward, telling their stories of how he had molested, raped, and pimped them.

    While I have no interest in defending Mr. Epstein, per se, in the interest of consistency, I must point-out that the above paragraph would appear to be missing the critical qualifier alleged.

    Or does Mr. Unz purport to know, for a fact, that all of those claiming to have been victims of Mr. Epstein were, in fact, victims of him? (Needless to say, if Mr. Unz does purport to know such information, he should present it here. (Or, if he does not feel at liberty to do so, at least tell us as much).

    With any high-enough-profile bust of this nature, is it not entirely plausible and even likely that at least some of those who come forward and claim to be victims are, in fact, nothing more than opportunists hoping to cash-in on claims that are false (or at the very least wildly exaggerated and embellished)?

  177. Tom Verso says:

    I think Mr. Unz is a victim of media propaganda when it comes to the Catholic Church and so called “pedophilia”.

    Pedophilia is defined as “a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child” (Webster’s dictionary)

    There are few if any documented cases, so far as I know, of priest engaged with prepubescent children. Rather, cases with post-pubic boys; i.e. pederasty.

    And far more cases of sex between adult male priest.

    The mass media use of “pedophilia” is a diversion because they won’t use the word or write about homosexuality.

  178. @Sean

    I think you can see even Hillary was instinctively into alpha male types.

    If you’re saying that Billie and Donnie are alpha males, I’ll say, “not in my world.” Nothing but punks stuck at the emotional level of 14 year olds. A real alpha male could kick their asses with little more than a look. And women, generally, are poor judges of male character, especially the corny asexual dimwits such as the likes of Hillary. Her type wouldn’t know how to act in the presence of a real man.

    Disgusting pretenders, and that’s the type of scum that floats at the top of the political world.

    • Replies: @aboutthat
    , @Sean
  179. Bubba says:
    @Jimmy R

    The teachers of my local public high school in the 70’s (and 80’s) put the Catholic Church to shame with their pedophilia. It’s disturbing to remember how many lives they destroyed over the years in one lone public school.

  180. J Epstein, Roy Cohn, Meyer Lansky, J McCarthy, Trump, all rabid anti-Communist CAPITALISTS!
    All are gangsters, all seem to be perverts as well. The CIA, the private military of the CAPITALISTS, founded by big business CAPITALISTS like Alan Dulles, known to work closely with the mafia and terrorist groups. Raising hell all over the world, causing the refugee crisis, overthrowing govts and creating free market hellholes, and we pay the price while they get filthy rich. Turning our healthcare system into nothing more than a racket, making sickness unaffordable, eventually making us all homeless panhandlers. Seems everything in CAPITALIST America is nothing more than a racket doesn’t it?

    You can dance around it all you want, but eventually you gotta admit that these gangsters seem to thrive in this CAPITALIST environment. Do they not? When do you finally come to the realization that CAPITALISM itself may be the numero uno problemo? Perhaps this CAPITALIST system itself is one big criminal enterprise, one big ol ponzi scheme? Why is it they all hate communists so much? Is it because the commies and socialists don’t put up with their criminality and degeneracy? The commies give them the boot, the bullet, or throw them in jail. Adolf himself warned us of the scheming capitalist/international financiers.

    You all keep repeating your CIA programming like your masters order you, I’ve noticed a pattern here.

    Without naming any names, since 2001 it has been difficult to avoid noticing that one of the most zealous and committed supporters of the Neocon party-line on all Middle Eastern foreign policy matters has been a leading Republican senator from one of the most socially-conservative Southern states, a man whose rumored personal inclinations have long circulated on the Internet. The strikingly-sudden reversal of this individual on a major policy question certainly supports these suspicions. There have also been several other such examples involving prominent Republicans.

    You talking about Sugarbritches ain’t you? AKA Lindsey G. Ilhan Omar suggested the same thing.

    LOL! Check out the lady Trump wants to run against Ilhan to take her seat in congress, she’s already a criminal.

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/07/28/602034/US-proTrump-candidate-Muslim-congresswoman-Ilhan-Omar-Danielle-Stella

    Anywho, I don’t know about the pizzagate thing. Theres probably a lot of perverts in powerful positions, that I have no doubt about. The fact that they try to make it a partisan thing makes it smell like fake news, a distraction. Like there are only perverted Democrats or that its only Clinton, usually partisan stories are just distractions that go nowhere. I’m sure all the politicians have some crime from earlier in life the CIA or Israelis hold over their heads. Who hasn’t broken the law? Its not hard to do in police state Merica. Most of them are just corrupt and sleazy as hell, all about the Benjamins, most would probably pimp their own daughter for a nickel.

    The fact that the MSM is covering the Epstein “story” tells me that its probably just a distraction, that will go nowhere. If they really wanted to lock up Trump, Obama, Clinton or anyone else theres plenty of war crimes, crimes against humanity, treason for funding terrorist groups, 9/11 etc, they could throw them in prison for. You never hear about that though….

    This youtube channel did a pizzagate series, its 4 videos, you can go to their channel and search pizzagate for all 4, its put together very well. Its interesting to watch, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up of anything happening, especially under Trump, they’ve obviously got some dirt on him the way he acts..

  181. Dissident says:
    @Greg Bacon

    That some, if not many US politicians have degenerate backgrounds and bizarre tastes can’t be brushed off as some coincidence.

    Is the number of politicians with “degenerate backgrounds and bizarre tastes” significantly greater than the number of the general population with same? You’d have to establish that first.

  182. Skeptikal says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Absolutely agree.
    The Whitney Webb articles and her interview at Last American Vagabond will knock your socks off.

    It’s all there, but more is to come in part 3, which I eagerly await.

  183. Olorin says:
    @gsjackson

    She looks even more like Webb’s other daughter.

  184. @Bob

    Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

    I don’t want to intrude on your privacy, but I’d be curious if you would be willing to say more about this individual. Why didn’t your parents want you to testify against him?

    See this interesting link below. This man was a boarder at Citron’s house and was sexually propositioned. He also saw Citron bring a very young boy into his bedroom.

    http://tomsosu.blogspot.com/2016/07/i-was-unknowingly-boarder-in-home-of.html

    • Replies: @Bob
  185. Bubba says:
    @getaclue

    Communist Bella Dodd also swore under oath she placed over a 1,000 Communists into the Catholic Church as “Priests” to destroy it.

    That describes the Jesuits very well.

  186. Anon[297] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles

    Because of course the one true Church requires a principle of unity, chosen by Christ, otherwise known as the Pope. Francis notwithstanding, the true Faith can be summed up as: Revelation, Incarnation, Communion. A Catholic must go to Mass and Confession. Catholicism is a life, a sacramental one, not a series of ideas. Novus Ordo masses can be valid, thus Our Lord is there. Hence to Mass we should go, and require faithfulness of our priests, Novus Ordo or not.

  187. Hail says: • Website
    @IfAmericansKnew

    Q. In terms of Israel’s behavior as a country, do you think that they meet your personal standards..in terms of human rights?

    Kamala: [blinking quickly] [looking up towards own right] I think that Israel, as a country, is dedicated to, umm [quick blinking continues], being a democracy. [Swallows] And is one of our closest friends in that region.

    Klobuchar: [enthusiastically] Israel is our beacon of democracy, in the Mideast.

    Warren: We need a liberal democracy in that region….They are our strong ally.

    De Blasio: The one true democracy in the Middle East…Our crucial ally…I firmly [he says the preceding word slowly and emphatically] believe that we have to defend the state of Israel.

    Gillibrand: Israel is our greatest ally [blinking quickly] in the Middle East!

    Yang: Israel is a very, very important, uhh [contorts mouth], ally of the US [inhales].

    Michael Bennet: Israel is the one essential country [blinking relatively quickly] on the planet.

    Booker: My commitment right now? is in affirming Israel’s right [hard blink] to exist…

  188. Tusk says:
    @Olorin

    There is simply too much evidence pointing to the fact that ‘something’ is surely out of the ordinary – whether or not anyone wants to believe it or not. How many wacko’s connected to pizza symbology being outed as pedophiles will it take? The old cheese pizza slang has been knocking around online since 2008 from my memory, but yet nobody seems to question how a) the slang even originated in use, and b) how come people connected to it (such as Peter Bright aka @DrPizza) are exactly how they were described? Epstein was on pol’s radar for years and only now is the Government acting. How could one anonymous website know something seemingly before the domestic spy agencies of the US Government? If 4chan had the resources of the Gov then the amount of dirt that would be discovered would surely dwarf the limited perception of the drones tuned into CNN and the like.

  189. Hail says: • Website
    @alexander

    McCain fits the following, modified Steve Sailer definition of NeoCon:

    Invade the World
    Invite the World
    Israel First

    Eight words. Am I missing anything?

  190. I wrote about the Epstein blackmail theory on my blog:

    The theory is unbelievable for a number of reasons. I have right-wing populist sympathies and I don’t particularly like the elite, but I don’t share the common belief that they are sex perverts. Now if you define attraction by older men to younger women as “perversion” then they deserve condemnation, but that isn’t normally done outside of feminist circles. Do I believe many would risk their positions by knowingly sleeping with underage girls? No. Epstein is anomalous in that respect.

    Now what if he tricked his friends into sleeping with underage girls, then tried to blackmail them with the evidence? I don’t think that would work, because the super-rich are very unlikely to go to jail for accidental statutory rape. What about “strict liability?” That’s the kind of crap the peasants have to deal with. If a billionaire were ensnared in it, the legal system might actually start seeing that as an injustice, certainly the maximum penalty wouldn’t apply to that billionaire. And to prove the case, details would have to be provided, the who, the what, the where, and the why, which would implicate Epstein in crimes more serious than the men he was blackmailing. Furthermore, the first guy blackmailed would tell all his friends to stay away from Epstein.

    https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2019/07/13/i-dont-buy-the-jeffery-epstein-blackmail-theory/

    A scam like that would work better today that it would have 10 to 20 years ago, with the cultural environment surrounding #MeToo. Ron says our culture is “remarkably libertine,” it’s remarkably libertine with regards to certain behaviors, but quite “puritanical” in other respects.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @David Baker
  191. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @gsjackson

    “According to many, putting these international child trafficking networks and the political powers they serve out of business is the main reason Trump ran for office.”

    Sounds like the latest serving of 4-D chess dressing.

    How do these theorists explain:
    – Trump making the short list of Hillary Clinton’s preferred opponents, memorialized in written, internal campaign communications subsequently published by Wikileaks?
    – Bill Clinton in 2015 urging Trump to run, as reported at the time in Establishment media?

    The “supposedly it will hit the fan in the next several months” chant is like the string being pulled away from a kitten. More RedBlue to keep people voting themselves more of the same.

    • Replies: @Parisian Guy
  192. lysias says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    The Athenian democracy was certainly capable of great mistakes, of which the Sicilian Expedition was probably the worst. But that was not an example of what I said the Athenian system successfully avoided, I.e., excessive power of the rich. The Athenian populace, which had the power, was successfully misled by demagogues like Alcibiades into the folly of the expedition. Very likely an oligarchic Athens would not have made that mistake. But rule by the rich results in greater evils. Athens successfully avoided rule by the rich, which is the greater evil, certainly for us today. Do not be misled by the likes of Thucydides and Plato, who opposed radical democracy.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  193. I often heard and still hear Republicans refer to the country as a Republic. As a former Democrat (a Demexiter) I was fond of correcting them and referring to the country as a Democratic Republic. After all, many of our laws still come by way of public referendum.

    Now it seems that the Achilles heel of this Democratic Republic is the Republic part, not the Democratic part. It is obvious that blackmail and extortion are the means by which Republics fail.

  194. R.G. Camara says: • Website
    @lysias

    No, it has not been a failure, liar. To the contrary, it has been a 2000 year success. We know now that incontinent homosexuals are to blame, not celibate straights.

    And yes, liar, clerical celibacy is compelled by doctrine. and by Jesus Christ himself. Matthew 19. And by Christ’s own example in life.

    When will liars like you get tired of lying about the One True Faith?

  195. gepay says:
    @Miro23

    /ron Unz failed to mention what the media used to stop talking about Pizzagate – some guy from NC went in with a gun looking for the fictitious basement that pedophilia was said to take place. I think he let off one shot. Immediately Pizzagate became “nonny nonny poo poo” total conspiracy theory and it dropped from sight. I did not have the resources to investigate but immediately thought that guy was manipulated or mind controlled to do that for the above reason.

  196. @Jake

    “Die Traumnovelle,” by Schnitzler, is quite tame. It would bore most readers.

  197. @Carlton Meyer

    Now, THAT’s an obituary, Mr. Meyer! The NY Times Deaths: section could really use a guy like you, Carleton.

    I said it then, right when Juan McAmnesty died, and I’ll say it now, I’m glad he’s dead. I have been told that it’s just not nice, period, to say something like that, and here was my reply (same about Ted Kennedy, BTW):

    It would be one thing if this guy was retired from political life, or at least the US Senate, with it’s 100 members. No, these people stay in office until they croak off, and if it takes his death to get McCain kicked out of office, then yeah, I was glad he died that day!

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  198. Hail says: • Website

    Maybe PizzaGate’s power does not derive from, let’s say, the “conspiracy theory proper,” but from popular anger at one, some, or all of the following, which are core (and factually undisputed/undisputable) parts of the story:

    (1) The radical empowerment/celebration of homosexuality and sexual deviance (symbolized by the extreme Gay predilections of the that pizza shop’s homosexual owner) — by the 2010s in most of the West, Gays had been promoted first-class citizens with Non-Gays demoted to second-class citizens, a disturbing trend that does not augur well for family life; perhaps not coincidentally, fertility rates have declined;

    (2) What in Germany was, once upon a time, called Entartete Kunst (Degenerate Art) such as that owned and celebrated by the key figures in the PizzaGate story; degenerate art as a symbol for cultural decline/decadence — Do not dismiss the power of this to galvanize people, as not just Entartete Kunst but “PizzaGates” were all over Weimar Germany, as the soon-to-be NS party voters looked on in anger;

    (3) Frustration at the displacement of middle-class White-Christianity by disturbing, alien religions (symbolized by the disturbing Spirit Cooking thing) — probably classifiable as (3-a): religion proper, and (3-b): a proxy grievance against mass migration of alien people with alien customs, like Muslims and other Third Worlders;

    (4) The notion that wealthy, powerful elites are pushing each of the above down on us; a cultural revolution from above. Key elite actors are implicated directly in PizzaGate in all of the above, even if no pedophile rings as such ever existed.

    PizzaGate has all four of these elements. Deviant sexuality, degenerate art, anti-Christianity (and probably, implicitly, Third World immigrants), plus an actor group. I believe that PizzaGate’s popularity is traceable thereto. The only question left to ask may be: “Cultural decline: Is it murder, or suicide?”

    • Replies: @iceman
    , @Paw
  199. @anonymous

    How do these theorists explain:
    – Trump making the short list of Hillary Clinton’s preferred opponents, memorialized in written, internal campaign communications subsequently published by Wikileaks?
    – Bill Clinton in 2015 urging Trump to run, as reported at the time in Establishment media?

    Well, I have a very hot conspiracy theories that you will find hard to believe:
    The Clintons are firstly self-interest driven.

    Then, it must be remembered that everybody, from any party, believed that Trump would be easily defeated, since he was an outsider with no politics experience. Thus, it is very plausible that the Clintons believed it too. Since they wanted to optimize their election odds, they wished Trump would be their opponent on election day.

    Therefore, the Clintons’ wishes are fully explained. They can’t be proof of whatever else alternative theory. They tell nothing about the Trump motives for running. Neither the “4D chess” fantasy, neither the “all elites are complicit in all cases” theory have gained or lost any weight here.

  200. niceland says:

    Thanks Ron. I enjoyed your last article about the Syndicate very much, and I am wondering, what became of it? I found their influence in California quite impressive since not so long ago Cali was considered the 7.th largest economy on the planet. Some of it’s somewhat unique politics can perhaps be explained by “the best politician money can buy” and lack of coherent “party politics” I lack knowledge about U.S. politics but it seems to me the situation you described in Cali is now the apparent model of U.S. politics in general. I read recently the Italian mafia abandoned gangster style petty street crimes and moved up the ladder into national politics. Perhaps there are similarities between them and the U.S. in this regard.

    Still I somehow got the feeling Cali politics resemble in some ways Scandinavian politics, social democracy with a mix of free market. (aka Commifornia). Now Scandinavia isn’t considered among the most corrupt places on the planet and party politics are indeed very strong there in genera. Strange, but again, my knowledge of Cali politics is very shallow.

    Regarding the Epstein case. He is known for surrounding him self with young girls. Even as young as 14, but most of his victims are older in the high teens. To me this seems different from the imagery surrounding the “pizza-gate” case, where young children seem to be on the menu. Actually I am highly skeptical about that one even if the the art and symbols are highly disturbing. In my view it’s plausible Epstein was running a honey trap operation in cooperation with some “higher up’s”.

    I also want to point out, even if the corporate propaganda outlet called the MSM is dishonest at times, in all likelihood it’s main function is to serve the interests of it’s owners. In the case of John McCain it wasn’t worth it for them to “burn an old oak” a big symbol in the Spartan like war-imagery the U.S. has created around its military. Figures like Seymour Hersh, Chris Hedges and John Pilger and the rest of serious anti-war reporters have been purged from the MSM and gone are the days of serious reporting of wars -indicating priorities and vested interests of the apparatus.

    However it’s a bit of a leap to think the same press would completely ignore credible stories of pedophilia in high places just because they spared the image of John McCain- at least for the time being. That stuff is so explosive it would give the media the very same power over the suspects you are describing in your article. I find it hard to believe they would let it just slide… Unless of course the entire MSM is in the pockets of the same “handlers”. Isn’t that a bit far fetched?!

  201. @alexander

    It’s basically someone who used to be a Trotskyite and supported endless war abroad for the left.

    Then at some point they switched teams and now they support endless war for the right, or what passes for the right at the Heritage Foundation.

    And most often, they’re Jewish and Zionist.

  202. jokelly says:

    Similar rumors swirl around events much farther back in history as well, sometimes with enormous consequences. Well-placed contemporary sources have claimed that Samuel Untermyer, a wealthy Jewish lawyer, purchased the secret correspondence between Woodrow Wilson and his longtime mistress, and that the existence of that powerful leverage may have been an important factor behind Wilson’s astonishingly rapid rise from president of Princeton in 1910 to governor of New Jersey in 1911 to president of the United States in 1912. Once in office, Wilson signed the controversial legislation establishing the Federal Reserve system in 1913 and also named Louis Brandeis as the first Jewish member of the U.S. Supreme Court despite the public opposition of nearly our entire legal establishment. Wilson’s swiftly changing views on American involvement in the First World War may also have influenced by such personal pressures rather than solely determined by his perceptions of the national interest

    .

    When writing of the Protocols in the “International Jew” Henry Ford discussed the blackmail issue, referring anonymously to three political figures, one of whom was clearly Wilson, that were then under control of the hidden hand. Don’t know who the other two were.

    Re Wilson and Untermyer, my understanding was that Unternyer simultaneously represented Mrs. Peck, the wife of one of Wilson’s fellow professors with who Wilson had an affair, in a (potential) alienation of affections claim against Wilson, and represented Wilson in the same matter, and supplied the money to Wilson to settle the claim, thereby cementing control over him. (Don’t remember where I read this.)

    Re the pedophilia issue, don’t rule out that there is an element of Evil involved in this.

  203. DaveE says:
    @Jimmy R

    Interesting. But not surprising. “Baron” is a Jewish name.

    Sounds like the classic, ages-old story of Jewish infil-traition of the Church for reasons I’ll let you decipher.

  204. @niceland

    I agree there is a difference between a willing teenage girl and an innocent child.
    In Paris and parts of Europe it is legal, like the movie Gigi or Nabakov. It is as old as Rome.
    I find the whole case kinda weird.

  205. niceland says:

    Regarding some of the comments here.
    In my view there isn’t much of a surprise Obama got the presidency. Remember he spoke so well the Nobel committee handed him the Nobel price for peace. He presented himself as anti-war figure from the beginning, even if the outcome was different. And his wife is both handsome and presentable. His predecessor was George.W.Bush. Considered a war mongering idiot internationally. Many American tourist coming to Iceland during his years were apologetic for being Americans during his presidency, “not in our name” they said. I don’t think we need complex conspiracy theories to explain his rise to power, for many the soft spoken Obama was a logical remedy for G.W.Bush policies.

    Bill Clinton is a charismatic guy and no doubt a womenizer. And he most certainly wouldn’t be the first powerful figure to cheat on his wife and enjoy young woman. But a pedophile in cohort with his wife? In my view it’s entirely possible Bill enjoyed some sexual encounters with young women supplied by Epstein, but there is a leap to child pedophilia like the “pizza-gate” suggest and for all her faults I see no evidence for Hillary’s participation in any of this. Looks like pure bullshit.

  206. niceland says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I am certainly no expert, but my impression is in many cultures girls as young as 12 were considered women and wedding material. From the “male animal” standpoint a female sporting womanly figures is a woman and can arouse men’s sexual desires regardless of age. I think our predecessors didn’t need any more proof. Thankfully times have changed.

    My UN-scientific impression is child pedophilia (as seen in the imagery from the pizza-gate) is something different. Indicating it’s not plausible to connect some dots between Epstein alleged “honey trap” and the alleged pizza-gate case. Meaning: I can see the MSM ignoring Epstein but not the other. I don’t buy it.

  207. FB says: • Website
    @Jimmy R

    I’m an investigator in Boston a homo troll from the Vatican.

    With zero commenting history…[although I do recall another ‘investigator’ from Boston that popped up here like an overnight mushroom the last time this subject was mentioned…only to disappear just as quickly…]

    [MORE]

  208. Voltair says:

    What we are seeing here is the Kabala in action.
    The Kabala is the “magic” branch of the Babylonian Talmud of Rabbinic Judaism.
    The Kabala aimes to use the sexual energy for enightment….much like the Tantric branch of Budism or the Kamasutra of Hinduism.
    It is all part of the present push to Judais western civilization.
    Push out the Christian Church (Catholic) and replace it with Talmudic values via Holliwood.
    Infiltrate and subvert the other Christian Churches.

    The battle that Jesus fought against the Rabbinic Babylonian Talmud is on again…and the Rabbis are winning this round.

    There is an old saying that when the Catholic Church is strong the Jews are weak…when the Catholic Church is weak the Jews are strong.

    The problem with the Kabalistic sexual practices is they invariably lead to hyper sexuality and on to perversion.
    The sexual energy becomes a raging distructive fire.
    What we are wittnessing here is that fire getting out of control.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @Jacques Sheete
  209. aboutthat says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    “Disgusting pretenders, and that’s the type of scum that floats at the top of the political world.”

    Not only there, but in the entire humankind!

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
  210. SafeNow says:

    The great playwrights almost always recognized that when a character suddenly transforms, a sufficient explanation is needed; much more than just a few lines of dialogue. Critics took to task abrupt or curious transitions, in which the change is not adequately explained, because those are simply not credible to the audience. By contrast, in the theater of politics, the abrupt and curious transition is routinely explained-away by the mainstream media, and the mainstream audience swallows it.

  211. Miro23 says:
    @Dissident

    Trump wasn’t their candidate (which suggests that he’s clean), and (so far) he hasn’t enabled a war with Iran, so what happens with him is an open question.

    I wonder what makes you (or anyone) so sure that “Trump wasn’t their candidate”.

    The Deep State, Empire, Zio-Glob, or whatever you want to call it, was obviously 100% behind Hillary Clinton. She and her husband were totally blackmailable, and the media fury when she lost was something to see.

    For his part, Trump looked surprised (and not too happy) that he won. It’s clear that he has links to the Deep State, but he was set up to lose (the media from the start presenting him as the joke candidate – the irrelevant clown). The script was for serious, boring and ineffectual Jeb Bush to lose to the heroic champion of Social Justice, and first woman President Hillary Clinton.

    When Trump actually found himself President (and could see the trouble he was in) – for survival, he fully committed to Israel and the Zionists. The idea was that they would defend him , against their Cultural Bolshevik cousins in the US. The Adelsons and the Israelis love him while the US Cultural Bolshevik Jews hate him.

    The US public are just extras in this show. If he cared about them he would do something about 9/11 – which he won’t. He’s a high rise developer from New York and knows better than anyone that 9/11 was all fakery. Here’s his first public reaction (on the day):

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Sean
    , @annamaria
  212. anon[409] • Disclaimer says:

    The purged journalist you mentioned was attacked by David Brock and Leftist-aligned The Daily Beast in a coordinated effort. They also cited the ADL’s condemnation of RT, hysterically claiming they host “anti-Semites” …. then this Epstein story emerges with allegations of Mossad playing a role. Hmm …

    • Replies: @annamaria
  213. Hail says: • Website

    it is quite intriguing that so many of these cases involve the sort of criminal or sexual misbehavior that would be ideally suited for blackmailing powerful individuals who are less likely to be vulnerable to other influences. So perhaps many of the elected officials situated at the top of our democratic system merely reign as political puppets, dancing to invisible strings.

    I would invite Ron Unz and readers to look up the recent case of a Mark W. Levin (b.1944 or ’45). He has a murky background, but by the 2000s was apparently involved closely with some outer-tier DC organizations and by the 2010s at a small DC graduate school aimed at aspiring intelligence agents.

    Levin pressured young men for sex, used blackmail and threats, though the stick was mixed in with carrots. In a word, he appeared to be part of an operation with some striking similarities to the kinds of political blackmail operations (or the gaining of ‘compromised’ people) alleged/proposed in this article.

    The Mark W. Levin story was reported in mainstream media (see some excerpts, below; Google or Bing or DuckDuckGo for much more), but there are some questions have deserved asking since the scandal broke in spring 2017, such as: What was the source of Levin’s money, with which he paid for some students’ tuition? Do we know for sure that Levin was “acting alone”? Did he have any political objectives? The story was fairly extensively reported on, but I don’t think any of these questions were answered.

    It’s possible Mark W. Levin was just a lone, sick con-artist acting alone for homosexual-gratification and power, which is what the media depicted him as. It is also possible that he really was (at least at one time) part of a blackmail operation, and that after years of service he finally went down or was discarded, messily (a lawsuit against him was made public in spring 2017).

    This is really a small-time case compared to Epstein, but it may be useful for comparative purposes.

    Excerpts from some press reports in the case:

    [MORE]

    In the late 1990s, Levin began attending the institute’s public lectures. Then he started handing over checks to pay for the tuitions of certain students, though the source of the money was a mystery

    By late 2012, the alleged victim said, Levin told him that if he wanted to remain a candidate for Levin’s covert group, he needed to avoid marriage, children, sexually transmitted diseases and relationships with Muslim women. Levin warned him, he said, that his “guys” would constantly watch him and that if he didn’t follow instructions, he would be blacklisted from government jobs.

    Levin began inviting his protege back to his Arlington apartment building to practice drawing a weapon – shirtless. Soon, the man said, Levin began fondling him and giving him prostate exams, telling him the inspections were key to his recruitment. Levin also bathed him in the shower under the pretext of helping him with his hygiene, according to the alleged victims’ lawsuit […]

    Although Levin told him that he was free to refuse, the Arlington man said he did not want to imperil his candidacy for the clandestine organization or risk losing out on government jobs.

    When the Falls Church man applied for his internship in July 2016, Levin told him “The Watchers” or “my guys” had been surveilling him.

    “Then, Mark told me: ‘I’ve killed 38 people. We have people killed all the time. And we cover our tracks,’ ” he said. “I was intimidated.”

    John Doe recalls following Levin’s instructions him to masturbate and ejaculate on his own stomach.

    “Levin proceeded to play with the semen on Mr. Doe’s stomach, and then informed Mr. Doe that his semen output was insufficient and could have damaging effects on Mr. Doe’s ‘candidacy,’ and this exercise would therefore need to be repeated in the future,” the complaint states.

    Though the men say they found such treatment degrading, they say they trusted Levin’s credentials and believed his threats, some veiled and some explicit, about his ability to harm them.

  214. @Alden

    A future Mayor of San Francisco, Art Agnos, was shot in 1973. Agnos survived a close call. He was shot by the NOI/Zebra killers.

  215. @HEREDOT

    Another great article from Unz.

    So true. Ron’s entire ‘American Pravda’ series is groundbreaking and explosive. This latest chapter is no exception. Bravo!

  216. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Bertrand Muscle

    Ok, Mr. Statistics, what is the probability that pedophile logo was a mere coincidence? Doesn’t seem likely, now does it?

  217. The scalpel says: • Website
    @TKK

    How do you explain her childhood photos? Do you believe they are fake?

  218. Nodwink says:
    @Republic

    My preferred theory for Madelaine’s disappearance was accidental overdose, but I was taken aback by the similarity of those E-FIT images to the Podesta brothers, as well as to Weiner. After Khashoggi I don’t count anything out.

  219. Nodwink says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    thieving is more their style, it’s true

  220. Nodwink says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Trump certainly has an eye for his Generals.

    • LOL: Rabbitnexus
  221. ‘but would our national press-corps have remained silent if the personal fortune of our current president were only a step or two removed from the car-bomb assassins of a nosy journalist who died while investigating mobsters?’

    See the Clinton body count. Mena airport Arkansas. Joseph P Kennedy’s connections to bootlegging etc.

  222. Mr. Unz,

    I’ve read a number of your “American Pravda” articles before. First of all, I like the concept and have always appreciated your steadfast principled stance in publishing whatever else from other writers you feel is truly controversial and outside the mainstream. I may not (and sure as hell don’t) agree with the idiocy of the Godfree Robertses and associated Comm-ent-tards, but since you’ve got Steve Sailer, John Derbyshire, and Ron Paul on here, you are acting eminently fair.

    In your own writings, besides the perhaps-necessary extreme length of them, I feel that you are TOO open-minded in them. Some could say that there is no such thing, but, yeah, I’ve seen you note some shady or down-right untruthful shenanigans or conspiracies and make it out like not a thing that we know about the subject is true anymore. It’s like you learn something of a big lie in American history and take it farther than it really goes. I am glad you didn’t get into the fake moon landing business either, BTW.

    In this article, I think you have hit a happy medium. I don’t see that you have gotten into any wild speculation and happen to agree, therefore, with about every word of it, with some room for further learning. On the sudden rises of unknown men like Wilson and Øb☭ma and the Lyin’ Press’ purposefully downplaying or burying completely the major faults of failures of men like McCain, you are right on the money. The theory of who works the strings of these marionettes is a subject for lots of other posts and comments.

    Thanks for the great article, Ron.

  223. Skeptikal says:
    @renfro

    “our founders (signers of the Del of Indep) were immigrants born outside the US”

    Ugh, no.
    Of course the “US” didn’t exist when our signers were born . . .
    They created the “US.”

  224. Bob says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Peter Citron used to have a Wikipedia page and more information about him was available online than it seems is available today.

    Here is a skeleton biography of him: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/37002798/peter-lawrence-citron

    Note:

    Citron was raised in Scarsdale, N.Y., and studied English at Dartmouth College. In 1966 he moved to Omaha to work for the Omaha Sun Newspapers as entertainment columnist

    The incident with me and my friend was a few years before 1966 when Citron went to Omaha. His time in San Francisco was also marred with child abuse and, I believe, another organized gang. Citron was not a top player but he was near enough to the top to be very revealing. How was he able to move into one abuse group after another if they were not connected? In Omaha, he became a main fall-guy for the Franklin scandal. He was convicted but only as an individual not connected to the larger group of abusers.

    My parents kept me out of it because I was around 9 or 10 when it happened and just a bit older when the legal case came up. My friend experienced worse treatment than me. You can read the whole story, which includes much worse stuff than Peter Citron here: https://scarsvale.net/

    Scarsdale, NY in those days was a hotbed of nefarious Jewish activity, Citron being only one part. I keep hoping Ron will take the time to read my true-story “novel” at the link just above. If he, or anyone, has connections to people who lived in Scarsdale during the fifties and sixties, he may be able to corroborate my story through them. I know many of them know. Not sure what someone like Ron would be able to find out.

    That book was very hard for me to write. Looking back, I can see that I was both anxious and too considerate while writing it. My true story is so bad, I was and am afraid no one will believe me. It’s also just hard to tell. I really understand the problems victims of horrible crimes have telling their tales even years later. My experiences have shown me a street-level very nasty side of Jewish power in the USA. Do people really believe it is all just based on networking?

    In the Franklin case, there are many claims of victims being poisoned, threatened, murdered, even jailed (on “perjury” charges) for telling their stories. Poison (BZ, LSD, PCP, etc) psycho-surgery, and God knows what else can make victims seem totally unbelievable. If you consider how easy it would be to poison a young sex abuse victim, lobotomize them, drive them crazy, then you have to recognize that ruthless people will almost certainly employ methods like that. Better to discredit young victims than kill them.

    • Replies: @utu
  225. Bob says:
    @mcohen

    Thanks, I have read that. It’s a good book.

    Nick Bryant also has a book on Franklin: http://www.franklinscandal.com/

    as does David Shurter: https://davidshurter.com/2013/08/17/about-nick-bryant-and-the-murder-of-peter-citron-an-amendment-to-rabbit-hole-a-satanic-ritual-abuse-survivors-story/

    A terrible side of these stories is the abuse, intimidation, poisoning, and even killing of the victims for years after the initial crimes.

  226. Kali says:
    @Alfred

    Couldn’t agree more!

  227. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    No, some saw this well in advance:

    “In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.

    A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics.”

    Linh Dinh, “Orlando Shooting Means Trump for President,” @ The Unz Review (June 12, 2016).

    • Replies: @gda
  228. anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:

    Note how the ‘free press’ of the US has been not only complicit in all this every step of the way but is coordinated with it, staying silent about things in front of its nose and launching propaganda campaigns on cue. Obviously the media is in close cooperation with elements of the political establishment. Oh, but we have the freest media in the world. I know so because I read it in the newspaper.

  229. It’s so satisfying to watch Ron get gradually redpilled. However, if he already knew about the existence of Jewish Ritual Murder, Pizzagate isn’t very far off.

    Please read “The Greenbaum Speech.” Look into The Finders cult and the military day care scandal, especially the Presidio. This is enough to prove the existence of MKULTRA trauma programming, also known as Satanic Ritual Abuse, which ties into global pedo rings.

  230. c matt says:

    U.S.S. Liberty

    (((Never Forget)))

  231. Sean says:
    @Miro23

    He’s a high rise developer from New York and knows better than anyone that 9/11 was all fakery.

    You do know that Donald Trump’s uncle was sent to look through the recently deceased Tesla’s designs, and Tesla had invented a tiny steampunk earthquake machine that he said could demolish any building? Trump’s first reaction when arriving at the site of 9/11 was to boast he now owned the tallest building in that part of the city. Too risky?

    Trump could have lost everything running for President (they came after Sarah Palin and the Tea Party donors) . He would have had the IRS set on him if he had lost. Trump has to be recognised as the best of the best. There is no subtext with him he just says what he thinks.

  232. Further to my earlier comment about the Jimmy Savile and Carl Beech pedophile scandals in England, I would up today to find this really excellent article written by barrister Matthew Scott that gives an excellent summary of the whole shebang, that would be of great interest to anyone who wants to know more.

    https://quillette.com/2019/07/25/the-many-lies-of-carl-beech/

  233. anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:

    Obama is the most recent big example. Looking back it’s obvious that he was a closeted gay with a wife of convenience. She’s revealed that the children were born through IVF procedures so it seems he was somewhat absent at those events. He was compliant, gave everybody what they wanted and both she and him were handsomely rewarded financially including those bloated book deals for the featherweight books they themselves don’t write.

  234. Rosie says:
    @Miro23

    If the MSM can’t swing it, then they need to get a compromised candidate elected on an anti-war and immigration control platform, who then does a 180º turn when in office.

    No, no, no Miro23. You and Mr. Unz have got it all wrong. The reason we get forever wars and endless immigration is because that’s what women voters want, and we know these polls always do just what the voters want them to do.

    And I’m still waiting for an explanation of this:

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @David Baker
  235. Sean says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Jacques Lacan in connection with Antigone, says the hero is the one who can be betrayed with impunity. Trump put himself into such a position. You could have got a hundred to one against for Trump becoming President at the begining of his campaign, and had he lost as he was expected to until the very last minute, the IRS would have been set on him as well as the other regulatory agencies. The FBI Russiagate investigation could have done whatever it liked and he would have lost his fortune. So the man is far from afraid, he is self assured under conditions of risk: to wager against the odds.

    He either fears his fate too much,
    Or his deserts are small,
    That dares not put it to the touch
    To gain or lose it all.

    Aristotle described the “great souled man “. As a pinnacle of human excellence, he claims much honour and deserves much, for it is as bad to claim less than you deserve than more than your due. There are few dangers for him because there is hardly anything he values enough to care about preserving. He does favours, but is loath to accept them. He thinks nothing great. He speaks his mind–in a level deliberate mode of utterance–without fear or favour because he has a poor opinion of others and would not care to conceal his opinion. He indulges in conspicuous consumption of beautiful and useless things as a mark of his independence. He only gives offence deliberately.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  236. Escher says:
    @Tusk

    Agreed that this all looks highly suspicious, but it just feels strange that people engaged in such activities (including those in the public eye) would be so casual about their online and offline behavior.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  237. Ahoy says:

    @ Voltair

    In his very good comment, Voltair says “The battle that Jesus fought against Rabbinical Babylonian Talmud is on again… and the Rabbis this time are winning this round”.

    I beg to differ on this one. They conquered the USA in 1913 by buying the FED. Since then they used Anerica as a power base to conquer the world. They failed bigly. In the home front they have run the economy dry. There is hardly a big city that is livable anymore and the seeple have guns. In the international front they are facing a resurgent Russia that allowes her to play hard ball.

    To give you some idea what has happened since the dismal Yeltsin years note these symbolic achievements.
    1. First world wheet producer for the last four consecutive years.
    2. Yeltsin left in the till 400 tons of gold. Putin brought it up to 2.500 tons as of now.
    3. They are finally self sufficient in milk and milk products.
    4. A healthy defence and car industry.

    Putin is reweaving the national fabric on the basis of a Christian culture, the Rabbis by pushing their
    international agenta have created division and hatred among the people in the States and under these conditions you cannot fight a victorious global war.

    Thet have come to the dilema of either nukes and mutual catastrophy or go back to their holes they came out from. Better talk to their God before they decide.

    4.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  238. anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles

    How come God who had been trying with very unpromising material for so long finally got it right somewhere between 30 AD and some time in the 4th century, and then didn’t stop all the would be improved a and reformers messing things up over the next 1100 years or so?

  239. Dan Kurt says:
    @Bill Jones

    re: Sherlock Holmes’ “curious incident of the dog in the night” Bill Jones

    The name of the Sherlock Holmes story is SILVER BLAZE.

    Silver Blaze is a horse, BTW.

    Dan Kurt

  240. @Miro23

    Yes, this is a very important video, a testament to a reality we find too crazy to believe, and thus we allow the world to continue its decent into darkness. I suggest to all who watched the interview to also read Paul William’s excellent book “OPERATION GLADIO”. One confirms and complements the other.

  241. Corvinus says:

    “I couldn’t recall any previous example of such a strange media reaction to some obscure controversy on the Internet.”

    It wasn’t strange at all reacting to a half-baked story.

    “I naturally began to wonder whether the timing of these two strange developments was entirely coincidental.”

    Yes, coincidence.

    “The media continued its uniform drumbeat of “Pizzagate Has Been Disproven!” but we were never explained how or by whom.”

    Actually, we were explained how and by whom, it’s just that you didn’t like what you heard. It’s called confirmation bias.

    • Replies: @Sean
  242. Corvinus says:
    @Ahoy

    “Putin is reweaving the national fabric on the basis of a Christian culture…”

    Through one party rule by oligarchs. Furthermore, under the guise of implementing “anti-terrorism” measures, Putin adopted laws in 2016 that restrict religious freedom and criminalize missionary activities. According to the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), the Russian president signed into law measures that redefine “missionary activities” as religious practices that take place outside of state-sanctioned sites. The law bans “preaching, praying, proselytizing, and disseminating religious materials” outside of sites officially designated by the state. Citizens can also be fined up to $15,000 for engaging in these activities in private residences or distributing unauthorized religious materials through “mass print, broadcast, or online media.” Foreign missionaries also must prove they were invited by state-registered religious groups and must operate only in regions where their sponsoring organizations are registered. Missionaries who fail to comply face harsh fines and deportation.

    • Replies: @Don Alonso
  243. Kali says:
    @RoatanBill

    Good comment.
    I only comnent occasionally on this website, but I do read the comnen sections on plenty of articles and am noticing a gradual increase in the numbers of commenters suporting anarchy and Direct Democracy. ‘Representative Democracy’ being a contradiction in terms and the mechanism used to corral generations into a fantacy of freedom. I’m thankful that, at last, the realisation that anarchy is actually, by its nature, a peaceful endeaver is spreading.

    I do realise, though, that, much as I welcome anarchy and Direct Democracy as solutions to the orcastrated horrors being inflicted by powerful elites on the world today, the transition away from the current model may not be as peaceful and smooth as we might like.

    I saw a documentary a few years ago o, The Power of Community, which charted the changes which took place in Cuba after it was isolated and barred from trading with the rest of the world.
    Community groups came together very quickly and began developing urban farm and exchange markets (amongst other things including providing education) to meet the needs of the people. But whilst the majority of the population was acctively involved in these groups and the priduction and distribution of food, a certain element took to stealing.
    But rather than sanctioning and punishing those theives they were instead invited to participate in the co-ops, griwing foid and producing other goods and participating in the community markets.
    And it work! Through being included and involved in their communities, the ‘criminak’ ekement transfirmed into active participants in their local communities.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  244. JackOH says:

    I’ll toss this story out FWIW.

    Years ago I was the target of unsuccessful honey traps. “Honey trap” may be a misnomer. There’s something terrifying to me about being approached by whores and faggots, and to know they’re being directed by important people to serve political ends.

    My locally published writings must have hit a nerve, I suppose.

    I investigated to the best of my ability. The perps seemed to me an influential local money guy and his identifiable, well-placed sock puppets who were in positions of significant nominal influence. People who are civic leaders.

    Why bother with me, though? I’m a low-level guy, I’ve demonstrated no political ambition, and my writings could be easily dismissed as crackpot stuff.

    I’ll never know the truth. The best I can guess is these jokers thought I was gunning for a job, that I sounded reasonably able, and with a bit of “massaging”, I could be useful as an utterly dependent sock puppet. I was writing out of a sense of civic obligation, so I guess they got their wires crossed.

    I’m the guy with the dossier now, a record of dubious and unsuccessful conduct by important local people. Karma is de minimis, though. For a microsecond I thought of shaking down these creeps for payback. I’m not Mafioso or James Bond, plus, I think blackmail is illegal even if the blackmailee himself committed criminal acts he doesn’t want revealed.

    Twenty years earlier as a minor political operative I’d smelled the stink of money and its influence. Now, sex. Better throw in violence, too, or credible threats thereof, as part of the suite of political tools they don’t tell you about in those 9th grade problems of democracy classes. I got my very minor “touch-up”, thanks you very much.

    Make of this what you will. There’s some big-time ugly rigged by our leaders, and there’s no doubt that ugly influences decision-making. I want to believe rational discourse is what wins the day. But, that’s only part of the story.

    Good essay, Ron. I only scanned it, but there’s stuff there worth pondering.

  245. @Kali

    Statists assume that gov’t is a necessary evil. I’d certainly agree it’s evil and the proof would be the over 200,000,000 people gov’t around the world killed in the 20th century.

    A Jimmy Buffett song contains a phrase something to the effect – ‘we are the people our parents warned us about’. I think of gov’t in that way. Everything gov’t claims is their good is in fact just the opposite. They steal from us and call it taxes. They create weapons of mass destruction and have standing armies that are just gangs of murderers in funny costumes. They take from one to give to the other to keep their fraudulent voting system alive and keep telling us democracy is great. They outlaw slavery but institute a ‘draft’. Gov’t can do what we as individuals are prohibited from doing. Their agents can have guns but we can’t. We need their permission to work. We need their permission to travel. The list is endless.

    Most people don’t want the responsibility to live their own lives without being told what to do. I think that’s a real shame. It’s also why I left the US 15 years ago. When the SHTF there’s going to be chaos in the US because people won’t know what to do. Gov’t will get worse and the people will be grateful.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @Kali
    , @Bill Jones
  246. @Bertrand Muscle

    During the Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and after, over 10000 Christian churches were destroyed or turned into housing for farm animals but synagogues were left untouched. Let that sink in, and remember it the next time you hear someone say the Russian revolution was not run by jews. I used to believe that jews and zionists were separate things, not so much anymore.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  247. anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    The Religion of PC doesn’t make any sense. The real motive is Anti Whiteism.

    If America and the West broadly are evil and oppressive to non-Whites, shouldn’t we be eliminating non-White immigration to the West for their own protection? Wouldn’t that be the humane thing to do?

    Maybe we should build a wall around the West to protect the rest of the world from us?

    They say we need “diversity”, but should also be “anti racist”. If everyone is the same and it is “racist” to assume anything about the individual based on their race, then why do we need “diversity”? Isn’t it “racist” to assume that a black woman thinks or acts differently than a white man, for instance?

    If they want to help the Aboriginals, shouldn’t we seal the border to prevent more “thieves” from coming to this “stolen land”, and thus taking even more land away from the Aboriginals?

    Look below the surface, and as always, ‘anti racist’ is code for Anti White.
    And diversity is code for White G…

  248. I don’t remember reading in one of your earlier articles (an excellent one, too!) about organized crime and California politics, an article where you delved into the relatively obscure Judge Bazelon of the DC Circuit, that among his law clerks over the years had been …………………Alan Dershowitz.

    Were you aware of that, Mr. Unz? Maybe you had included it in the article and I just missed it.

  249. Rosie says:
    @Corvinus

    That is a pathetic excuse for an explanation. It’s obvious from the pictures that they are two different people, who just happen to look exactly like the Podesta brothers. The witnesses may have thought there was only one person, because each witness in fact only saw one person and thought it was the same suspect.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  250. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Thanks. That Snopes article is remarkably defensive, with not only name-calling but a strange argument that another claim that one of the sketches resembled the child’s father discredits this one.

  251. Dissident says:
    @Alexander Turok

    You make a compelling case.

    I would like to elaborate and expand upon a point that you alluded-to when you wrote,

    Now if you define attraction by older men to younger women as “perversion” then they deserve condemnation, but that isn’t normally done outside of feminist circles.

    In at least much of the coverage of the Epstein bust, he is described as a “pedophile”, his alleged crimes as “pedophilia” and his alleged victims as “young girls”. From what you wrote in your post, however, (as well as in at least some of the admittedly little that I’ve read about the case from other sources), it sounds as if the alleged female victims were all unmistakably post-pubescent adolescents— mature enough to plausibly pass for being of legal age.

    That, whatever else it may be, is not pedophilia, the definition of which is limited to cases where the subject of attraction is prepubescent. For an adult male to sexually pursue a sexually mature adolescent female who has not yet reached the-age-of-consent in a given jurisdiction may not exactly be wholesome. Such behavior may reasonably be considered reprobate, indefensible or even downright depraved. But the mere attraction, by an adult male, toward a sexually mature yet still not-of-legal-age female? That, as brutally and bravely honest commentators such as John Derbyshire have pointed-out, is merely normal.

    • Replies: @Sean
  252. Dutch Boy says:

    Not too surprising – if you can’t control them with money (the usual way), control them with blackmail.

  253. Ahoy says:

    Corvinus #249

    Yes!! That is the staff that makes a real leader that loves and protects his people. At the other end America is a mish-mash of religions and ethnicities where noone trusts any body because of different values and beliefs.

    The only power that manages this construct is the Zoos money that selects presidents, senators and all sold out politiciens. Democracy the USA style is all smoke and mirrors to keep the sheeple placated.

    The founding fathers did not have this nation in mind when they were fighting for. freedom from the King of England. The Rabbis want a Global Talmudic culture and the only need they have of the people of America is to provide foot soldiers for their wars all over the planet to establish a Global dictatorship. Talmudic dictatorship.

    Look at Epstein and Clinton. Great Americans. eh? They really love their fellow countrymen and work day and night to protect them and improve their lives. In the meantime you turn a faucet in Detroit to drink a glass of water and out comes sewage.

    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @Corvinus
  254. @Alexander Turok

    Every “Me, too!” scandal alluded to women needing more proactive government response: Legislation protecting women, speech codes and ‘rules of engagement’ along with more female participation in government office, which explains the Ocmmio’s and other feminists piling into congress and state legislatures. Each of these women are hardcore democrats who seek to expand government and sustain the liberal status quo. It’s time to study that aspect of Cultural Marxism, and how female suffrage has been employed to advance socialist agendas. We could start with Venezuela.

    (Or Nazi Germany…….)

  255. @Rosie

    Kinda makes you wonder what ingredients they used for their “Spirit Cooking” ….

    • LOL: Rosie
  256. Rosie says:
    @anonymous

    Thanks. That Snopes article is remarkably defensive, with not only name-calling but a strange argument that another claim that one of the sketches resembled the child’s father discredits this one.

    One wonders why they bother making those edits of they’re not even going to bother questioning apparent matches, but them I guess they would have bothered if it was just a couple of average Joe’s. I suppose it’s one of the perks of being powerful and connected.

  257. @Ahoy

    Ugly Butt (Hillary) was all set to throw women under the tank via a Female Draft. Though women are herd-like in the political realm (Who voted–twice–for her polygamous, sexual predator husband?) they seemed to sense that their demise in combat was not what they desired to attain “Equality”

  258. Dissident says:
    @the grand wazoo

    During the Bolshevik revolution of 1917 and after, over 10000 Christian churches were destroyed or turned into housing for farm animals but synagogues were left untouched.

    I have no idea what relation your post has to the one you were replying-to (perhaps you replied-to the wrong post?) but I would like to respond nonetheless.

    Bolsheviks of Jewish descent were virulent atheists who utterly rejected and turned against the Judaic faith of their forefathers and any Jews who remained loyal to it. Such religious Jews were treated no less ruthlessly by the Bolshevik apostates than any non-Jews were.

    If any of the Bolshevik beasts ever did, as you claim, spare synagogues or otherwise appear to show any favor toward any religious or traditionalist Jews, I am sure that the reason must have been entirely self-serving, such as a hope to yet recruit such Jews to the Bolshevik ranks.

    Let that sink in, and remember it the next time you hear someone say the Russian revolution was not run by jews.

    What percentage of the Bolsheviks were Jews? A disproportionately high number, to be sure. But the entirety? Does anyone actually dispute that there were also plenty of non-Jewish Bolsheviks as well?

    I used to believe that jews and zionists were separate things, not so much anymore.

    I can’t say that I blame you, given how frightfully successful the Zionists have been in usurping Jewish identity and conflating their heresy with Judaism and their state with the Jewish people. Not helping matters is the unfortunate but admitted reality that even of those Jews who have remained de jure non-Zionist, a very large number have de facto become largely indistinguishable from Zionists. And even of those Jews who have truly resisted the pressures of Zionism, conspicuous opposition to it is not often seen (but nonetheless can be found, certainly by one looking for it. See URLs below).

    All that notwithstanding, from the authentic, orthodox Judaic perspective, Zionism is a heresy. That perspective informs the web site https://www.truetorahjews.org/ , “Our mission is to inform the world that the State of Israel does NOT represent Jews or Judaism.”

    True Torah Jews, the group behind that site, and another group NETUREI KARTA INTERNATIONAL- JEWS UNITED AGAINST ZIONISM share the same basic theological positition that holds that Zionism is inherently a Judaic heresy. Neturei Karta, however, is also explictly pro-Palestinian and pro other Arab regimes that oppose the Zionist State.

    • Replies: @IM
    , @Alden
  259. Corvinus says:
    @Rosie

    “That is a pathetic excuse for an explanation.”

    You mean you think it is pathetic. Of course, you haven’t addressed each of the points made in detail.

    “It’s obvious from the pictures that they are two different people, who just happen to look exactly like the Podesta brothers.”

    They appear to look like the Podesta brothers. You do realize that police sketches are other than accurate, right?

    https://people.howstuffworks.com/police-sketch3.htm

    Furthermore, eyewitness accounts are also unreliable.

    https://www.ncsc.org/microsites/trends/home/Monthly-Trends-Articles/2017/The-Trouble-with-Eyewitness-Identification-Testimony-in-Criminal-Cases.aspx

    So, are you of the mindset that nothing could sway you? Better yet, what specific evidence would lead you to change your mind?

  260. Corvinus says:
    @anonymous

    “That Snopes article is remarkably defensive…”

    In what specific ways?

    “strange argument that another claim…”

    How is exactly strange? You really need to offer something of substance here.

  261. Corvinus says:
    @Ahoy

    “Yes!! That is the staff that makes a real leader that loves and protects his people.”

    By strong-arming people who hold different religious beliefs? By enriching his friends at the expense of the general public? That is a “real leader”?

    “At the other end America is a mish-mash of religions and ethnicities where noone trusts any body because of different values and beliefs.”

    I trust lil’ Ali down the street who is Muslim not to throw Molotov cocktails at my domicile. My congregation trusts other congregations, even though we are of different faiths. So, when you say “no on trusts anybody”, you speak in wild generalizations.

    “The only power that manages this construct is the Zoos money that selects presidents, senators and all sold out politiciens.”

    You mean Jews, aka Joos. Well, that could be happening. OR, it is not as corrupt as you make it out to be.

    “Democracy the USA style is all smoke and mirrors to keep the sheeple placated.”

    So how are you more enlightened than the “sheeple”?

    “The Rabbis want a Global Talmudic culture and the only need they have of the people of America is to provide foot soldiers for their wars all over the planet to establish a Global dictatorship. Talmudic dictatorship.”

    Assuming this to be true, what are you doing to stop it? In other words, how will you ensure that you will not get curb stomped by this “Talmudic dictatorship”?

  262. Clemsnman says:

    All of this corrupt power in politics just reinforces the now-trashed wisdom of our Founders. Limited government.
    Take the power out and money and corruption goes with it.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  263. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    You already have, as anyone else who cares enough to read it for herself will see.

    Again, thanks.

  264. utu says:
    @Bob

    …lobotomy…

    “I could tell many other stories about my life and my mom’s, but this is how this one came out.”

    Thanks for mercifully stopping at some point. If it was meant as fiction it was not too good. It is derivative and borrowing from the style people wrote in 60s and 70s like for instant Pirsig who when he published his second book in 1990s it already got very bad press because people by that time snapped out from the Zeitgeist that permitted popularity of his 1st book. But if what you wrote is meant as recollection I hope you are under some medical care.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  265. @Corvinus

    How is exactly strange? You really need to offer something of substance here.

    says the insubstantial Corvinus.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  266. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter

    In the words of TUR author Audacious Epigone:

    “Engaging with [Corvinus] is like punching a waterfall. Nothing happens, nothing changes, eventually you get tired and leave, and the waterfall keeps flowing as you’re walking away.”

    Apologies to all for my giving him something to run on about. But that overdone Snopes article is worth a look to those who enjoy dissecting propaganda.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  267. @Escher

    Narcissism and (the longing for) cheap thrills.

  268. Sean says:
    @Dissident

    But the mere attraction, by an adult male, toward a sexually mature yet still not-of-legal-age female? That, as brutally and bravely honest commentators such as John Derbyshire have pointed-out, is merely normal.

    A female can be fertile while still 11 years old. It is normal to pursue the most fertile women available to you. A 14 year old is never that.

    A 16 year old may be the most fertile all other things being equal, but you have to take into account the looks, which are also an index of fertility. I don’t think it is at all normal to go for ordinary looking 17 year olds and younger when you are seriously rich and one of Cosmo’s most eligible bachelors and could have a top model legal teen. Your genes would prefer a beautiful 18 year old, your brain under the influence of those genes would say don’t get locked up away from women. Epstein is no more normal than Bill Cosby with his unconscious women fetish. The fact they both could very easily have had normal relationships with sought after women but preferred under age or unconscious ones just makes it more obvious that they have a paraphilia they cannot be trusted to control.

    The girl at the centre of the new allegation says she visited Epstein at his Palm Beach mansion hundreds of times and only once did he actually have normal vaginal sex with her and he stopped as soon as she screamed no! It was all oral, dildos, handjobs him performing oral on her and lesbian shows.

    • Replies: @gregor
    , @Dissident
  269. Corvinus says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter

    “Meanwhile, it seems Snopes is being sued by the Babylon Bee:”

    Which is a red herring here. Focus on the source. What specifically do you object to regarding Snopes’ research on Pizzagate? Why?

    So, are you of the mindset that nothing could sway you? Better yet, what specific evidence would lead you to change your mind?

    “says the insubstantial Corvinus.”

    I see you are pressing really hard on that ad hominem button. Do you need a primer on discourse? The more you know…

  270. Corvinus says:
    @anonymous

    “But that overdone Snopes article is worth a look to those who enjoy dissecting propaganda.”

    OK, in what specific ways was that article overdone? How is it propaganda?

    “You already have, as anyone else who cares enough to read it for herself will see.”

    AE was frustrated that I countered his position to the point that all he had left was ad hominem. Now, are you also of the mindset that nothing could sway you? Better yet, what specific evidence would lead you to change your mind?

  271. gregor says:
    @Sean

    …she visited Epstein at his Palm Beach mansion hundreds of times and only once did he actually have normal vaginal sex with her and he stopped as soon as she screamed no! It was all oral, dildos, handjobs him performing oral on her and lesbian shows.

    That is reminiscent of some of the me-too allegations. Rarely normal sex. Usually something abnormal like having the woman watch you jerk off. When I heard it first with Weinstein, I assumed it was a personal quirk, but then there were several others with that same baffling predilection.

    Also reminds me of Ralph from the Sopranos.

    • Replies: @Sean
  272. @anonymous

    Come on – if you can’t believe the version of a political story offered by a left wing (((loon))) who cheated on his ugly wife with an even uglier former stripper, then what can you believe?

  273. @RoatanBill

    The problem with government(s) today is that they’re reactionary, and guided by principles of socialism and fascism. Every time a car backfires, some liberal representative screams “GUN CONTROL!!” They then pull out their yellowed legislative documents containing measures to relieve us of our 2nd Amendment. By the same token, other Amendments are inexorably diminished or outright repealed. That is NOT the function of a Constitutional Government, nor is funding abortions, illegal alien benefits, foreign countries or legislating specific “Rights” for gays, women and other minorities.

    Obama was a Lenin Wolf in Minority Leader Sheep’s Clothing, and he was guided at every stage to implement that form of tyranny, with the advent of labeling dissidents as “Racists” if opposition arose. America is bankrupt, culturally dystopian and degenerated, polarized politically and helpless against the onslaught of liberal campaigns to further erode our sovereignty and expand our crushing debt. It will take much more than platitudes from Washington to keep our ship from sinking.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  274. @Rich

    “there are a long line of heroin addicts who wish they’d never taken that first hit as a teenager.”

    Nope. You obviously don’t know any junkies. Heroin addicts wanting to get clean may regret having done their first hit of heroin, but not all do. It’s kind of ridiculous to state that many heroin addicts regret having smoked some pot long before they tried heroin.

    BTW, Bayer developed heroin as a cure for morphine addiction. Heroin works like rats a’fightin in that application. Anyway, I know lots of heroin addicts, and the general attitude among those people is that marijuana is a goofy, kid-stuff high. Another serious addiction which is harder to kick than heroin is methadone.

    Show me a methadone addict whose gateway drug to methadone wasn’t heroin.

    • Replies: @Rich
  275. @Anonymous

    “Who is Chelsea’s father?”

    Don’t look at me. I’ve never even been in the same room with Hillary.

  276. Dissident says:

    In response to a number of your claims and statements:

    1.) Individuals such as Jeffrey Epstein, regardless of how unambiguously Jewish they may be genetically, clearly lead a lifestyle that is a far cry from anything that could be considered compliant with Judaic law and values.

    2.) Whatever it may be that you are calling “Kabalistic sexual practices” is surely, from any authentic Judaic perspective, heresy and perversion.

    Authentic kabbalistic teachings (which are deeply mystical and intended for study only by devout, learned men who have already mastered the fundamental texts of Judaism) condemn, in the harshest terms, all forms of sexual licentiousness and demand the strictest levels of chastity. Any erotic imagery found within Kabbalistic writings is purely allegorical.

    3.) The claim that Hollywood promotes Talmudic values is downright laughable.

    (Just what the Talmud says about homosexuality alone, to take but one example, is completely anathema to the Hollywood ethos.)

    4.) Jews who wage war on celebrations of Christmas or other expressions of Christianity, or who interject themselves into the affairs and teachings of other religions are acting in violation of the Torah’s dictates. Faithful Orthodox Jews have no problem living in Christian or Muslim societies, provided we are are granted the freedom to practice our faith. (And we are deeply grateful to all peoples and countries who have granted us that freedom.)

    • Agree: The scalpel
    • Replies: @Sharrukin
    , @Dissident
    , @Alden
  277. @David Baker

    “We need to clean house, and install leaders who know what our Constitution limits them from doing.”

    Install leaders? Congress members aren’t our leaders. They’re the damned hired help and they should serve their constituents like the butlers and scullery maids they are. Leaders, my ass. Nobody in Congress could lead a troop of horny boy scouts into a cathouse.

  278. @Kratoklastes

    “FWIW, as part of an initiation I once stood with one trouser leg rolled up, a noose around my neck, a compass point held to my exposed left pectoral… in front of a glass coffin that held a human skeleton. Looking back it just seems monumentally retarded, but that’s humans for you. ”

    Well…. at least they didn’t make you tap dance and jerk off at the same time.

  279. Sharrukin says:
    @Dissident

    No true black would ever be violent or rapey.

    No true Jew would ever do anything nasty because otherwise he wouldn’t be a real Jew. Neat how that works.

    No true Scotsman…

  280. Dissident says:
    @Dissident

    The above comment of mine was meant as a reply to #214, by Voltair.

  281. Dissident says:
    @Voltair

    I responded to your comment in #285

  282. Rich says:
    @Twodees Partain

    In your opinion, if as a fifteen year old, the heroin addict hadn’t taken his first toke, would he have moved on to other drugs? You write that you know a lot of heroin addicts, is their a single one who didn’t start with marijuana? Every drug addict I’ve met started with pot. Every one.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  283. @davidgmillsatty

    ” After all, many of our laws still come by way of public referendum.”

    None of the laws passed by Congress come from public referenda. You’re confusing state governments with the federal government. The word “democracy is never mentioned in the US Constitution. You’re wrong about the “democratic republic” description.

    • Replies: @Alden
  284. Dissident says:
    @Sean

    I don’t think it is at all normal to go for ordinary looking 17 year olds and younger when you are seriously rich and one of Cosmo’s most eligible bachelors and could have a top model legal teen.

    I agree and I do not see where anything I wrote could reasonably be construed as implying otherwise. (I was quite clear in differentiating mere desire and attraction from behavior. And even then, I don’t see where I so much as implied, let alone stated outright, that the desire-in-question could still be considered normal if it was exclusive in the way you described.)

    Epstein is no more normal than Bill Cosby with his unconscious women fetish.

    I certainly would not consider an erotic desire for unconscious individuals to be normal under any circumstances.

    The fact they both could very easily have had normal relationships with sought after women but preferred under age or unconscious ones just makes it more obvious that they have a paraphilia they cannot be trusted to control.

    Again, I agree.

    The girl at the centre of the new allegation says she visited Epstein at his Palm Beach mansion hundreds of times and only once did he actually have normal vaginal sex with her and he stopped as soon as she screamed no! It was all oral, dildos, handjobs him performing oral on her and lesbian shows.

    I’m not sure what you meant to bring-out with that last paragraph of yours.

    Would you have considered Epstein’s behavior with the individual-in-question more normal if he had not stopped when she screamed but instead forced himself upon her?

    But even absent that detail, and putting the “lesbian shows” aside for the moment, I don’t see that the alternative forms of gratification that you listed should necessarily be considered any more degenerate or depraved in this context than conventional vaginal intercourse. On the contrary, from an objective perspective, couldn’t the former at least be considered less problematic than the latter? Granted, both fellatio and cunnilingus are not without considerable risk of STDs. The lack of pregnancy risk, however, is surely no small advantage in any case such as this, no? And for the other acts you mentioned, even the risk of infection is but minimal.

    (Needless to say, it would have been far better for everyone involved if Epstein had just kept his zipper shut.)

    • Replies: @Sean
  285. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’ll go you one better: The son of a bitch died 50 years too late to suit me.

    There.

  286. @Rich

    Most of the junkies I know started with alcohol. Both of the addicts you know started with pot. I get it. Enough, already.

    • Replies: @Rich
  287. Alden says:
    @Moi

    He wasn’t homo.

    Story about one of the affirmative action contractors who worked on the Moscone Center. Downtown SF is built on badly done 1850-1870 land fill, mostly broken up ships and sand.

    All the downtown buildings have several layers of basements with pumps going continuously to send the water back into the Bay. It’s worse of course when the tide’s in. Anyway, the contract for the pumps and water removal went to an affirmative action firm. The lowest couple basements were built in the summer and all seemed well.

    Another politician who liked young girls was Roger Boas.

    Then in January after a month of heavy rains the pumps failed and water poured out of the electrical sockets on the just completed first floor and the basements with all the operating equipment for the center failed as well as a complete electrical mess and complete re do.

    Another politician who liked young girls was Roger Boas, owner of one of the biggest auto
    dealerships and a major Democrat fund raiser. He was outed by a 15 year old White prostitute when she saw his posters all over town when he was running for election. I’m pretty sure she came from an escort agency.

    Willie Brown confined himself to consenting adults over 25. He was a highly moral man in SF political circles. Nancy and Paul Pelosi are known to be a faithful married couple. His brother Ron wasn’t. Ron’s wife put up with years of adultery before she divorced him.

    What’s wrong with these men? 20 year old prostitutes are just as attractive as 14 year olds.

    12 year old pathetic retard black girls from the projects. It wasn’t a secret. All the politicians and police knew about Moscone and his little friends for years.

  288. Alden says:
    @Dissident

    Doesn’t the Talmud say sex with babies of a year and a day is acceptable? Or is it 3 years?

    • Replies: @Dissident
    , @Voltair
  289. Alden says:
    @Twodees Partain

    State referendums are often overturned by the federal and state judiciary. Long before Election Day, each side prepares a lawsuit all ready if they lose. Nowadays with electronic filing they don’t have to wait till the court house opens day after the election.

    Just scan the lawsuit in at 3/am election night, type in a credit card number and click submit.
    12 hours later a judge issues an injunction to restrain putting the referendum into effect and the referendum is nullified during the years of litigation

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  290. Crimson2 says:
    @DESERT FOX

    You’re so brave to share your idiotic theory.

  291. Alden says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Look at all those pictures of her in shorts and pants. The best give away isn’t height muscles and broad shoulders It’s hips and thighs.

    Even fat men have square flat hips. Women have sort of sideway oval round hips with lots of fat. Women’s thighs are fat often with big bulges in the sides.

    Mrs Obama is a woman you can tell by the fat hips and thighs. Height? Her brother’s about 6’7 Parents and relatives all much taller than average.

  292. Dissident says:
    @Sharrukin

    No true Jew would ever do anything nasty because otherwise he wouldn’t be a real Jew. Neat how that works.

    I don’t believe anyone reasonable who read my post could sincerely find your tendentious characterization of what I wrote to be accurate or even fair and offered in good faith. A careful and fair reading of my words would, I am confident, reveal that I never so much as suggested anything so preposterous as “No true Jew would ever do anything nasty”.

    By your implied logic, individuals who identify as, say, Roman Catholic but who flagrantly engage-in practices such as fornication, abortion or buggery would have to be considered representative of the committed members of that faith. And those who claim that celebrating or promoting such explicit sins is consistent or even mandated by Roman Catholic doctrine would have to be taken at their word. Obviously, that would be completely preposterous. So too, here, with regard to Judaism and Jews who flagrantly disregard and violate its doctrines.

    On the off-chance that you actually have any interest in understanding what I wrote, you might want to try reading through it again, carefully.

  293. Alden says:
    @Nodwink

    Pedophilia is children 12 and younger. 13 to 16 or 18 depending on the state is various degrees of molestation of minors. They weren’t pedophiles. They were and are homosexuals and like most homosexuals preferred young men and teens. I had to laugh at one story about the head of a seminary “ molesting” the 20 to 3o year olds.

  294. Alden says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Was that a Masonic ritual?

  295. Sean says:
    @gregor

    Diabetic Weinstein was doing full sex to whores and actresses almost constantly even though he needed to inject his penis 5 minutes before for a erection. His assistants had to hand him bags of those injections before he met with women, and clean up the hypos littering the room afterwards. I think the exposing himself was more something that assistants at his production company had to put up with he did not dare do the serious stuff to them People forget that actresses are saying sassy lines that they did not think up themselves. He has already agreed to pay $44 million in restitution.

    Weinstein’s trial (he’s pleading not guilty) starts in seven weeks and he is free despite being accused by 80 women and being arraigned for actual rather than statutory rape (forcing woman that just said no to him to the floor of his office and sticking it in her ect). He is facing life but even if he is convicted he will be out, maybe before Jeffrey is even sentenced. Harvey must be weeping tears of gratitude for this Epstein thing blowing up when it has, and the suicide attempt failing.

  296. Alden says:
    @Republic

    Here’s the theory of the Portuguese police.

    The Mcann’s gave their kids sedatives so they would sleep and the parents could save money on baby sitters. Madelyn was overdosed and died.

    The parents stuffed her in a suitcase, called security and police. Evidence is that a cadaver sniffing dog signaled that a cadaver had been in the hotel room specifically, Madelyn’s bed and the closet.Cadaver dog also signaled that a cadaver had been in the trunk of a car rented by the McCanns.

    Circumstantial evidence is that endless viewing of security camera footage shows not one person or car in the gated resort that wasn’t a guest or employee or their car.

    I’m skeptical about cadaver and cancer and diabetes sniffing dogs. But if you believe that dogs can sniff if a human cadaver has been in a bed, room and car trunk then it was child neglect manslaughter, concealing a crime not reporting death of a child mis handling a corpse, whatever the Portuguese laws are.

    My daughter and her husband know a couple whose 7 year old was kidnapped at Disneyland in Orlando. It was a childless couple in the hotel who befriended them. Then the child disappeared. The credit cards, Dr licenses the couple used to check into the hotel were fake. No ransom asked family not wealthy. Police useless.

  297. Alden says:
    @Rich

    Stats also show that most women shave their legs and most men shave their faces. And all alcoholics started drinking baby formula and their mothers milk

    • Replies: @Rich
  298. Sharrukin says:

    So too, here, with regard to Judaism and Jews who flagrantly disregard and violate its doctrines.

    Judaism is hostile to Christianity in particular and to white western civilization in general. They frequently sponsor those hostile to the west and subvert European nations and the U.S. The mass flood of immigration, minority pressure groups, lawfare, and their significant presence in socialist and communist movements as well as their participation in the murder of Christian’s and white when they gain power are expressions of this hostility.

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/israel-and-anti-gentile-traditions/

    He mentions a passage from the Talmud that says that Jesus will be punished in hell by being immersed in boiling excrement.

    Jewish tradition teaches pious Jews to burn copies of the New Testament 

    He cites Maimonides’ assertion that whereas one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11). According to another leading commentator, indirectly causing the death of a non-Jew is no sin at all (Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Bayit Hadash, commentary on Bet Yosef, Yoreh Deah 158).

    …a booklet published by the Central Regional Command of the Israeli Army which states that it is permissible, and even encouraged, to kill civilians encountered in war. “In war, when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakhah to kill even good civilians, that is, civilians who are ostensibly good.”

    For one, the texts that Shahak cites are real…

    This is coming from My Jewish Learning not an anti-semitic website.

    The doctrine of Judaism doesn’t seem all that different from that of Islam.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  299. Alden says:
    @Anon

    Epstein’s girls seem to have been American born native English speaking White Anglo old American stock girls

  300. @Kratoklastes

    Tantalising. You have previously indicated that you were, and, from memory, still are, a Freemason, so please enlarge on the moral lines you walked away from and, you imply, the SC and Deputy Commissioner did not, or may not have. At least what you decided against for yourself.

  301. Alden says:
    @Jake

    It was a major major 20 year conflict to get the age of consent raised from 12 to 16 in late 19th century England. The age of consent was raised as part of the battle against child prostitution which was rampant and open in England at the time.

    • Replies: @David Baker
  302. Sean says:
    @Dissident

    In the real world, people act on their desires. So if you are attracted to a certain age group you will do something about it.

    But the mere attraction, by an adult male, toward a sexually mature yet still not-of-legal-age female? That, as brutally and bravely honest commentators such as John Derbyshire have pointed-out, is merely normal.

    As I said that would include most girls of 11 years old. I suppose Derbyshire meant 14 years old and up, which is what Epstein is accused of.

    I don’t see that the alternative forms of gratification that you listed should necessarily be considered any more degenerate or depraved in this context than conventional vaginal intercourse.

    They are more unsatisfactory for most men and being comparatively rare as primary sexual interest / activity over vaginal sex are thus less normal.

    (Needless to say, it would have been far better for everyone involved if Epstein had just kept his zipper shut.)

    Better for Harvey Weinstein who is pleading not guilty and whose trial for rape ect on adult women starts in several weeks?

    • Replies: @Dissident
  303. Alden says:
    @DESERT FOX

    What’s your thinking in the Alien from outer space Lizard people?

    • Replies: @Nescio
  304. Alden says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Except in a few Nevada counties, being a prostitute of any age, being a customer of a prostitute, procuring and arranging contacts between prostitutes and customer, running a prostitution business and soliciting sex for money are crimes no matter what the age of the prostitute in every state and territory of the United States including Little St James Island and the states of New York and Florida.

    The girls were prostitutes paid for sex. Epstein, Maxwell, the pilot Nadia and others were procurers and arrangers of the prostitution.

    If the men who enjoyed the prostitutes didn’t pay the girls, they weren’t t guilty of paying for sex.

  305. Ron Unz says:
    @Alden

    That Mayor Moscone of San Francisco who was shot had a thing for 11-13 black girls, small ones. He liked to beat them up a bit too.

    That’s an amazing story about Moscone. Your perspective on Willie Brown and the Pelosis is also very interesting. It sounds like everyone in SF circles knew all these things, but strangely enough, it never got into my morning newspapers.

    You’d had an even more fascinating story a while back about the top elite leaders of LA getting together in the aftermath of the LA Riots and deciding to “fix things” so the city—and their real estate holdings—didn’t go the way of Detroit.

    Have you ever considered writing up some of these remarkable things that you’ve heard over the years? I’d certainly be glad to consider publishing the stories…

    • Replies: @Crimson2
    , @Alden
  306. Sean says:
    @Corvinus

    Anti vaccination is called a conspiracy theory by some. It is a bit different to the Sandy Hook children were never alive hypothesis. Pizzagate was not suddenly disproven, but it frightened the media into overreacting because it made them realise they are not the gatekeepers any more.

  307. Dissident says:
    @Alden

    No. See
    http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/three.html

    Selected excerpts:

    […]the discussion here relates to the dowry for virgins and non-virgins. It has nothing to do with what acts are allowed, encouraged, forbidden, or discouraged.
    […]
    The Talmud relates that a virgin is entitled a higher dowry.
    […]
    The Talmud continues and quotes Rava as saying that a sexual act between a male adult and a female under the age of three is also not considered a loss of virginity (although it is child abuse). Since the girl is too young for her hymen to be broken, she is still considered a virgin.

    Nowhere is the Talmud permitting such behavior. [emphasis mine- Dissident]

    Additional relevant discussion here:
    https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/65726/does-the-talmud-promote-pedophilia

  308. Alden says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Nabakov you mean that book Lolita? Did you read it? The hero kidnapped and raped an 11 or 12 year old child after her mother died. Lolita managed to run away from him when she was 17 and became too old to appeal to him.

    Read the book and learn it wasn’t consensual sex. Read the book and learn how she was kidnapped from summer camp after her mother died

    And do you know the difference between sex for lust and fun and prostitution aka sex for money which is illegal no matter what the age of the prostitute?

  309. Paw says:
    @Richard Wave

    Yes another. What have many suprisingly many occupants and victims of the Gulags, long years jails, conc. camps , what they have common is they, like McCain, in spite of great suffering and hunger, Vietnam horrible conc. camps,no health care, torture , beatings etc. they lived so long. Longer than many ordinary citizens who have very good conditions, lived healthy lives and little or no suffering….
    Apparently all in the know involved in that conspiracy /are not we accused of many conspiracies many times / , were involved as well ,to ensure their silence…
    Mc Cain certainly shouted loud and often , crazy and crazier and that always encourages,provokes the suspicious thought, that he/she has something or more somethings, to cover UP..

  310. Voltair says:
    @Alden

    Three years and one day…and its ok to have sex with her.
    Thats what the Talmud says.

  311. LondonBob says:
    @Republic

    British diplomats noted inconsistencies in the McCann’s story and thought something was wrong.

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/the-strange-case-of-gordon-brown-and-the-mccanns/

  312. IM says:
    @Dissident

    Tbh this idea of good Tribe and co. vs bad Zionist is utter nonesence. The behaviour of this Israel entity is an absolute perfect expression of the principles laid out here:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

    The issue is not so much as that of having ahomeland but the absolute supremacism and so called ‘chosenism’ that many of these “anti-zionist” groups still prescribe too.

    Furhtermore the actions of Trotsky, or Bronstein and co. are a perfect expression of the Kabbalistic hatred of Christianity. Even if somebody such as Bronstein claimed to be atheist or whatnot this is most likely nonsense as his loyalty was still clearly to the tribe and co. and his raison de etre was to destroy their enemies.

    Further reading:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-its-aftermath/

  313. Kali says:
    @RoatanBill

    “Statists assume that gov’t is a necessary evil. I’d certainly agree it’s evil…. ”

    Indeed! (Funny too.)

  314. @Jacques Sheete

    In the Philadelphia market, there are two or three radio ads offering class representation to victims of “clergy abuse”. The law firms bear names you might expect. The ads run quite frequently — almost as if they’re to remind radio listeners at large of the concept of “clergy abuse” rather than reach potential victims.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  315. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sharrukin

    The doctrine of Judaism doesn’t seem all that different from that of Islam.

    There’s one, crucial, difference. According to Talmudists, the goyim are not even human. It’s impossible to overstate how much that attitude changes everything.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  316. Skeptikal says:
    @utu

    Re Pirsig, is that the Motorcycle repair guy?
    If so, I started to read his book a few decades ago. Long past the “sixties.”
    Zen adn the Art of Motorcycle Repair I think was the title.
    It was so painful to read his descriptions of his interactions with his son, I had to stop reading.
    I could never understand hwo this obviously very damaged man could have become any kind of icon, countercultural or anything else.

    How could people be so gullible?

    • Replies: @sayless
  317. I don’t know maybe just maybe that attempted shooting(you did not mention) had something to do with the media’s reaction? Sometimes its simple things and not long drawn out explinations.

  318. Miro23 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Good article here:

    What Is The Elites’ Obsession With An Owl Named Moloch?

    The owl known as Moloch is riddled throughout history the more commonly known occultic owl is the 40 ft statute at Bohemian Grove, and more recently mentioned in Hillary Clinton’s leaked emails as well as seen on rich elite pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s island. So why do the elite worship this owl and what is the owl’s connection to ancient history? A forewarning, going forward the information provided in this article will be well sourced and stomach churning. The beliefs presented are the elites not my own I personally think they are off their rocker insane.

    https://steemit.com/owl/@an0nkn0wledge/what-is-the-elites-obsession-with-an-owl-named-moloch

  319. annamaria says:
    @Miro23

    “All three buildings were destroyed by carefully planned, orchestrated and executed controlled demolition.” – Professor Lynn Margulis, Department of Geosciences, the University of Massachusetts at Amherst and National Academy of Science member.
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/07/no_author/new-york-fire-commissioners-call-for-new-9-11-investigation-about-pre-planted-explosives/

    9/11 has woken up millions of people, as thousands of architects, engineers, scientists and firefighters continue to create awareness about why they question the official explanation given to us by the US government regarding the events that day. Not only that, but numerous academics have become involved, with multiple studies published in physics and engineering journals concluding that all three towers must have been brought down by a controlled demolition. …

    Because of 9/11, other false flag attacks like what we saw in Syria (with regards to the supposed chemical gas attacks) were much easier to accomplish. At the end of the day, the evidence speaks for itself, and in this age of mass censorship, the people are taking it upon themselves to seek out information that the global elite does not want us to know about.

    This is precisely why they’ve captured Julian Assange, because Wikileaks was publishing information that was not a threat to “national security,” but rather a threat to political and elitist agendas, agendas that are highly unethical, immoral and practically unbelievable. The fact that it seems unbelievable is why a lot of evidence and credible sources in support of 9/11 being a controlled demolition are often deemed “conspiracy theories.”

  320. annamaria says:
    @anon

    Making the presstitute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock

    While he was at Berkeley, David Brock contributed an op-ed to The Wall Street Journal entitled “Combating Those Campus Marxists”. It drew the attention of John Podhoretz, who at the time was the editor of Insight, a weekly newsmagazine published by The Washington Times.

    Podhoretz flew Brock to Washington, D.C., for an interview and hired him as a writer of the weekly conservative news magazine Insight on the News, a sister publication of The Washington Times… After working at Insight, Brock spent some time as a fellow at The Heritage Foundation. …

    Brock was formerly the domestic partner of William Grey; Fox News reported that their relationship ended in a bitter, three-year-long legal battle in which “Brock and Grey traded angry accusations, … replete with charges of blackmail, theft and financial malfeasance” …

    Brock’s claim that the Clintons have never committed any wrongdoing has received criticisms from many who have cited instances of abuse

  321. Rich says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Alcohol, really? What part of the US was that? Here in NY it was always easier to get weed than booze, at least since they raised the drinking age. I think maybe, you’re not being truthful because you hate to lose an argument. And, unfortunately, I’ve known way too many heroin addicts, many who’ve died, some who are now methadone addicts and the handful who’ve kicked the habit and are getting their lives back together. And they all tell me they started with pot.

  322. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dissident

    The goyim know. Your hasbara brochures won’t work here.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

  323. Rich says:
    @Alden

    Stats also show that anyone who ever drank water or breathed air has died, right? What’s your point? Are you guys actually arguing that heroin users didn’t start off with pot? That when someone begins using drugs, any drugs, it can be a first step to using harder drugs? Drugs are bad for you, sorry, marijuana is linked to schizophrenia, lowered IQ, memory loss and breathing problems as well as being the first drug most hard drug users used. These are simple facts. Why do you lads have so much trouble with that? You want to use, use, just don’t pretend it’s harmless, don’t try to trick others into thinking pot is harmless.

    • Agree: Poco
    • Replies: @Alden
  324. says:

    July 31, 2019 at 1:13 pm GM

    The Talmud does not consider gentiles to be sub-human

    The Talmud does not consider gentiles to be animals

    From your links it is obvious that Judaism doesn’t consider Gentile to be human at all despite all the dancing they do around those passages.

    They are men! No, as it says (Ezekiel 34:31) “Now, you [Israel] are My sheep , the sheep of My pasture, you are Man (Adam)…” You [Israel, the subject of the verse] are called Man (Adam) and gentiles are not called Man (Adam).

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/are-non-jews-human/

    They are beasts (behema) in human (Adam) shape. All their ways and deeds are the ways of beasts, for what is not God’s way is called beastly deeds.

  325. annamaria says:

    What a prime example of presstitution this article by certain Matthew Scott. https://quillette.com/2019/07/25/the-many-lies-of-carl-beech/
    Here is the presstitute’s coup de force — Russia! Antisemitism!! – what else? Not a word about the decades-long coverup of the horrific abuse of British children by the pedophilic “elites” instead Matthew Scott focuses on malicious smear of a messenger.

    Beech’s targets were mainly “establishment” figures. Only one, the former Labour MP Greville Janner, was from the Labour Party, and his prominent position within the British Jewish community and his support for Israel made him, like Lord Brittan, a perfect target for the antisemitic agitators who gleefully climbed aboard Beech’s bandwagon. …

    A Russian government energetically promoting [?] “anti-establishment” movements all over Europe was not about to miss an opportunity like this. George Galloway, used his platform as a presenter on the Russian state broadcaster RT.com to promote Beech’s claims.

    The unwelcome truth:

    Greville Ewan Janner, Baron Janner of Braunstone, QC was a British politician, barrister and writer who was alleged to have abused vulnerable children, but died before court proceedings could formally establish the facts. He was an MP until 1997, and then elevated to the House of Lords. … He was associated with a number of Jewish organizations including the Board of Deputies of British Jews, of which he was chairman from 1978 to 1984, and was later prominent in the field of education about the Holocaust.

    Allegations that he had sexually abused children first emerged publicly in 1991, but Janner denied them and no action was taken. The accusations re-emerged shortly before Janner’s death, and although the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) considered that there was enough evidence to merit prosecution, they decided that it would not be in the public interest as Janner had been diagnosed as suffering from dementia.

    So convenient!
    Another one with the ties to a “number of Jewish organizations:” https://www.thedailybeast.com/thatcher-protege-leon-brittan-was-a-pedophile-suspect “Thatcher Protégé Leon Brittan Was a Pedophile Suspect”

    Leon Brittan, the former Home Secretary, was long accused of covering up a Westminster child-sex ring. Now that he’s died, authorities say he was a suspect as well.

    “England: Land of Royals, Tea and Horrific Pedophilia Coverupshttps:”//time.com/2974381/england-land-of-royals-tea-and-horrific-pedophilia-coverups/

    …politicians with links to Margaret Thatcher’s government sexually abused vulnerable children in the 1980s and hid the truth for decades through their “chumocracy.”

    Most notoriously of all, Sir Jimmy Savile, a BBC children’s television presenter feted by the Royal Family and Downing Street, abused 450 victims, mostly boys and girls as young as eight over 50 years. …

    Lord Brittan, the Home Secretary to whom Dickens handed his dossier, told reporters he could not recall anything about it. But last week … Lord Brittan issued a statement remembering that he had received the dossier and had asked his officials to study its contents. Over the weekend it emerged that Lord Brittan had been interviewed as a suspect in the rape of a 19-year-old in 1967..

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  326. @lloyd

    “Moral Christianity” never existed.

  327. @Rich

    I think you failed to read what I wrote carefully. I also repeat, you know nothing. All your stats are rubbish and long disproved. Marijuana has NOT been established as a gateway drug, that was totally biased propaganda. As I said mothers milk is the gateway drug. Clowns repeationg decades old anti-drug propaganda are less that helpful. You clowns make the biggest problems by convincing inexperienced people of equivelances between totally unrelated substances. The worst addictive drug is alcohol and the most deadly drugs are prescription drugs. These are facts. Your assertions are no such thing. Most cannabis smokers try a few other things at most but end up only cannabis smokers. Also cannabis smokers don’t get brain tumours or alzheimers. Don’t be stupid.

  328. @Sharrukin

    Yes, just another “No True Scotsman” fallacy.

    NAJALT!

  329. Rich says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Obviously everyone has there own biases, but I’ve reached a different conclusion than you from my experience, and my reading of the issue. I’d recommend a fairly new book, published this year “Tell Your Children:The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness and Violence”, by Alex Berenson. He does a very good job of citing studies and research that should open the eyes of any fair minded person. Your mind is made up, so there’s really not much point of arguing further, is there?

    You don’t think it’s a little funny that all of a sudden a lot of very big companies have the opportunity to make money off this drug that suddenly so many are in favor of legalization? And that the propaganda in favor of the mind altering drug has been so overwhelming? For crying out loud, your inhaling smoke into your lungs, can that possibly not be a health hazard?

    I’ll try, by not smoking marijuana, to remain intelligent. And you might want to check your stats on marijuana users and Alzheimers and dementia.

    • Replies: @Alden
  330. Halb says:

    I had a taste of the Pizzagate suppression myself. My twtr account was summarily blocked after 2 days of posting pics of the Podesta’s art collection and references to DOJ attorneys who had left favorable comments on some of Alefantis’ more disturbing Instagram pics.

    That was after I’d spent 2 weeks posting a history of communist agents in the US government, Harry Dexter White and others. That didn’t seem to bother anyone, but Pizzagate was forbidden ground. Why, when every MSM parrot said it was already debunked ?

    Perhaps in several centuries a new Umberto Eco will pen the definitive novel about our time.

    If there are still pens around in several centuries.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Jacques Sheete
  331. gda says:
    @anonymous

    “Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises,”

    But of course he has and he did. At least as many as he was allowed to, given the constant efforts to oust hi, blacken his and anyone who might support him as “RAYCISS” or worse.

    Inconvenient, that.

  332. annamaria says:
    @Halb

    The truth is coming out, indeed. https://thesaker.is/mh17-the-number-17-nicholas-2nd-and-the-western-ruling-elites-1000-year-war-on-christianity/

    By 1914 The Russian Empire remained the only major world power whose central bank was not in the hands of the international private central banking cabal. (The USA which had enjoyed seventy five years of freedom from their clutches — thanks to the truly astounding persistence and tenacity of president Andrew Jackson – yes, the one we never learned about at school — had fallen once more when The Federal Reserve was sneaked into existence through a bribed and half empty congress on the day before Christmas eve in 1913.) …

    The western banking cabal was constantly trying to get control of the central bank of The Russian Empire and every Tsar, including Nicholas 2nd was steadfastly opposed. … With the advent of the USSR this banking cabal was given control of its new central bank-Roskombank by Ulyanov and Bronstein (stage names; Lenin & Trotsky). Indeed one of its directors was a certain Max May, an employee a J.P. Morgan subsidiary company. …

    … the Bolshevik putsch would result in the destruction of millions of families due to the arrest of parents, summary execution, deportations and collectivisation which resulted in huge numbers of homeless, orphaned children on the streets of Soviet towns and cities in the 1920s an 30s. The fate of these children is the subject of dark speculation and rumor to this day.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  333. Che Guava says:

    Hello Mr. Unz.

    I wanted to post this as an amplification of a small point of the Pizzagate articles . The term ‘chicken’ for targets of paedos and pederasts goes a long way further into the past than is stated in the articles. Malcolm McLaren, former manager of the Sex Pistols, made his next project the band Bow Wow Wow.

    The lead singer, Anabella Luin, screamed about being ”just 14′, which she was.

    McLaren claimed or intended, at the time (1981 or 2) an intention to publish a magazine titled Chicken to accompany the new band. Several comments on the clearly paedophiliac or pederastic meaning appeared in the press at the time. I would guess that he really intended to do it, but the members of the band (including Annabella) told him to GTFO on that score.

    So, the etymology of it is somewhat further in the past than the timeline traced by the good writer of the Pizzagate articles.

    I stuspect that the usage extends at least as far back as NAMBLA co-founder Alan Ginsburg, and think I have read earlier references, but the above is the earliest that I recall with certitude.

  334. @Alden

    NAMBLA is campaigning to legalize pederasty. Somehow, they’ve acquired the notion that boys won’t suffer mentally or physically the way girls do when they’re molested. Of course that’s not true, but then, look at the source.

  335. All of these revelations are designed to lessen the impact of public revulsion of child sex rings and prostitution of children. Jews (Lawyers in particular) know that flooding the internet and airways with such material has the effect of exhausting a topic, and lessening the surprise/shock reactions of people, which prompts their retaliatory fervor to punish predators. An earlier example involved movie director Roman Polanski, who was sentenced (in absentia. He fled the U.S. to France.) for the crime of drugging a 13 year old girl and sodomizing her. His conviction was part of a plea deal, so we know their lawyers have strings to pull in legal circles. One grotesque example of Jewish legal chutzpah arose after the completion of “Operation Blue Orchid”, which was an international investigation of Child Snuff films depicting children as young as 2 years old being sexually tortured to death. One American distributor of these films, a Jew named Bekenstein, somehow finagled a sentence of 18 months for his part in this industry.

    We can only imagine how that sentence was arrived at.

  336. @Rabbitnexus

    You are a liberal. “…has NOT been established as a gateway drug.”. You mean ‘established’ to your satisfaction, of course. People who need pot are practicing assholes who cannot function socially without some form of chemical to alter their personality. Pot is addictive, just as gambling is addictive. The drug has no medicinal properties, and if smoked, the same health deteriorating effects that cigarettes afflict users with occur. ANY drug will become a “Gateway” to experimentation and addiction to more potent varieties.

  337. annamaria says:

    Madonna (Louise Ciccone), who has been one of the most corrupt influences on the youth in the US and beyond, is a self-proclaimed “Israeli:” https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4640263,00.html
    https://prabook.com/web/madonna.louise_ciccone/722922

    Madonna converted to a sect of Judaism called Kabbalah. She has even, at times been asked to be called Esther, after the Jewish historical figure.

    [she has been associated] with “Kabbalism, radical feminism, pornography and the normalization of homosexuality.”

    Amazing conformity and certainly very Politically Correct. A shrewd businesswoman.

  338. Ahoy says:

    @ Corvinus #269

    How did I avoided been a seeple? I knew you would throw a curved ball at me and I was prepared for it. You are a typical happy go lucky stupid American that cannot observe what is happening around him and even if he does he has not the ability to comprehend.

    Here is an example. Back in the hippy days I saw Jane Fonda in Greenwich Vilage with a long dress and sayonaras with her toe nails black from dirt. I put that picture in the hard disc of my memory. Years passed and as I was drinking my coffee in a cafe near Central Park, shooting the breeze with my friends, I heard that our little Jane had become Mrs. Turner. My God, our Jane had become First Lady of the CNN Empire.

    At that time I knew the U.S of A had bought a one way ticket straight to hell. This hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=aSw79yRnDVs

    Tennessee Ernie Ford gave his version of Hell, the FED Hell when he said

    ” St. Peter don’t you call me
    ’cause I can’t go
    I owe my soul to the company store”.

    Keep dreaming that your Talmudic Dictatorship is a Democracy and don’t forget that Portland is not the only shit hole in the country. There is also Miami, Detroit, l.A. and on and on.

    Tell me Corvinus, did you ever thought why Gates is called investor and philanthropist, where as Abramovitch is called oligarch. Difficult eh?

  339. Crimson2 says:
    @Ron Unz

    certainly be glad to consider publishing the stories…

    lol. Some random weirdo makes up a story and Unz fumbles all over himself to publish it.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Marty
  340. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @swamped

    “Another long-winded … inchoate ramble … disparate subjects … jumbled mishmash … leaves you more confused than when you started.”

    @swamped insults his own intellect. It was another great and well structured article by Ron Unz.

    • Replies: @Anona
  341. @Sean

    Well, let’s just say that Aristotle is as FoS on that as the tRumpster.

    He thinks nothing great… He indulges in conspicuous consumption of beautiful and useless things as a mark of his independence.

    I call bullshit on those two points alone.

    • Replies: @Sean
  342. @Rabbitnexus

    Clowns repeationg decades old anti-drug propaganda are less that helpful.

    The poor guy comes here thinking he’s got something to tell the rest of us, when about all he offers is the old time worn clichés and overused, hackneyed war propaganda. Sad, really.

  343. @annamaria

    That’s some sick stuff and no doubt true.

    The fate of these children is the subject of dark speculation and rumor to this day.

    Damn those sickos; they prey on children like stink on pig manure. Damn them forever!

  344. @Clemsnman

    All of this corrupt power in politics just reinforces the now-trashed wisdom of our Founders.

    Sorry to be a smart-ass, but the founders never had that wisdom.

    The ones who had that wisdom were their opponents, the anti-federalists, and though they were correct in every conceivable way, they lost, unfortunately. If the “founders” thought limited government was the way to go, they would not have pushed the constitution and the resulting centralization on the rest of us.

  345. @lysias

    I wonder how Eisenhower was persuaded to permit the 1953 coup in Iran.

    The British wanted to preserve BP’s oil concessions in Iran, but MI6 was not powerful enough to stage a coup without help from the CIA. So the Brits pretended that Mosaddegh leaned towards the Soviets, and the Americans pretended to believe them.

    After the coup, the Shah’s government transferred the majority of BP’s rights to American oil companies. It would have been much better for the Brits if they had done a deal with Mosaddegh.

    • Replies: @renfro
  346. Sean says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Donald Trump is an inveterate open conspiracy theorist. In his pursuit of the truth in the dialogues, Socrates never states what the truth of any of the issues he is supposedly pinning down actually is. You could call “bullshit” on that too. And then what are you left with?

    [MORE]

    https://epdf.pub/kierkegaard-and-modern-continental-philosophy-an-introduction.html
    Nietzsche :The pursuit of the truth as reflective questioning reveals ultimately that it is for us an ‘inadmissable problem’ and so shows us its character as a form of human life. To characterize this form of life is thus already to see it as one lived under an illusion and so untruthfully. To be truthful is to ask what function this illusion played: why it was believed, where this is not directed to the ‘reasons’ that way of life had but to why it had those reasons. In asking this, we have stepped beyond the perspective governed by ‘the truth’ into another from which the will to truth can be characterized. Such a characterization implies a different set of values by contrast with which the will to truth is determined in its specificity, the values of a nonproblematic life, non-servile and non-herdlike, and so raises for us the question as to what these values are. What is the perspective of the ‘most world affirming man’? Rather than needing to be given a purpose, he posits ‘himself as a goal’ and through this goals for himself. His values are thus not a means towards a goal for life, but rather characterize the supreme value which he himself is: … severed from essential connection with purpose and are raised to the level of art in … characteristic activities celebrate a rejection of all concern with values of utility in the pursuit of great deeds, exploits within which self-preservation is deliberately put at risk so that their freedom from such values can find expression: within their own society, for example, in the competitive games and in rivalries upon which they stake their lives..

    Rather than the supreme value of truth, the deification of passion, revenge, cunning, anger and voluptuousness. To me all this bring to mind a certain someone known for conspicuous consumption A hint: he suggested Justice Scalia was murdered, vaccines caused autism, and over a dozen other other things along the same conspiratorial lines. And when Obama tried to hit back by calling “bullshit”, by mocking him for believing such things, this certain person took up the gauntlet and risked everything he had in a hopeless crusade, not in the pursuit of truth because that is not what he is about.

    Conspiracy theories are not about the truth and neither is the man who more than any other public official–let alone president–has espoused them. Trump use conspiracy theories to allude to the way the world works. Rhetoric, which is as Aristotle said is appropriate to politics, consists of the enthymeme, where one makes ones point while withholding the premises or conclusion. Perhaps the Donald did too good a job of convincing the country that everything is rigged against them because those he defeated became convinced the Kremlin was behind his election.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  347. Truth3 says:

    Chelsea Clinton’s likely fathers, and probabilities…

    43% Bernie Nussbaum

    36% Webb Hubbell

    9% Vince Foster

    7% Janet Reno

    1% The Anti-Christ

    +

    Jared Kushner’s probability of being the Anti-Christ (((666)))… 66.6%

    Therefore, the probability that JK is the Father of CC is… 0.666%

  348. @RoatanBill

    Don’t short-change them.
    The two hundred million dead are only those killed by their own government, you can damn near double that number withe “enemy dead”.

  349. @anonymous

    You do realize that Snopes is some guy living in his basement with his whore, don’t you?

    http://www.politicaljack.com/threads/snopes-is-a-scam-run-by-just-2-liberal-democrats-out-of-their-basement.63653/
    They divorced since these halcyon days.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  350. @Kratoklastes

    Thank you. At least a few people understand.

    Fortunately (for the political class) the bottom 4/5ths of humanity are so fucking stupid that the political grift persists.

    Agree.

  351. @Anthony Wayne

    The ads run quite frequently — almost as if they’re to remind radio listeners at large of the concept of “clergy abuse” rather than reach potential victims.

    “Subtle,” aren’t they? And one’s supposed to wonder why there’s “antee-Semutizm.”

  352. Parfois1 says:
    @Alfred

    Democracy is supposed to be a negative-feedback system – like all control system. The only way to make it function properly is to have Direct Democracy – where people vote on all issues and at the lowest level commensurate with the matter to be decided.

    My instictive reaction is to agree; representative democracy being inherently corrupted. It is akin to giving thieves the keys to your home and password to your bank account.

    But even direct democracy – although an improvement – is still flawed without strong and effective means to prevent the emergence of partisan and dictatorial power. A, still imperfect, direct democracy would require an informed and participating citizenry (as in the Soviet Union where most people were involved in regular political meetings), abolition of political parties, universal entitlement to all public offices through random selection (sortition), right to recall holders of public office, referenda on all matters affecting the citizens, judicial control of media outlets to prevent lies and distortions. That’s for starters.

    Would the ruling elites allow that to happen?

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Alfred
    , @Miro23
  353. @Crimson2

    Some random weirdo makes up a story and Unz fumbles all over himself to publish it.

    Hey, he publishes weirdo comments like yours, doesn’t he? I doubt he does much fumbling in either case however.

    “Jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius. ”

    -Archbishop Sheen

  354. @Dissident

    Is it possible that you’re lying?

    What does the Talmud say about goyim?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  355. @Sean

    Your yammering about “conspiracy theories” suggests that you’re neither Socrates, nor Aristotle, nor Nietzsche and that you should turn off the boob toob. Use of that overused and currently “trendy” cliche doesn’t impress me a bit.

    Speaking of entythemes, you may want to play Socrates yourself and question your own contortions.

    • Replies: @Sean
  356. @Alfred

    Here’s a big problem with democracy.:

    Democracy is supposed to be a negative-feedback system – like all control system.

    It’s, as you say, a control system. As a control system, it’s easily abused by people who’re attracted to domination and control, and we all know how sick those jackals can be. It’s employment is based on the use of force and therefore it’s just another way of trampling liberty.

    Here’s an example of how one form of “democracy” is supposed to work.:

    Social-Democracy must recognise this mass terror and incorporate it into its tactics, organising and controlling it of course, subordinating it to the interests and conditions of the working-class movement and the general revolutionary struggle, while eliminating and ruthlessly lopping off the “hooligan” perversion of this guerrilla warfare which was so splendidly and ruthlessly dealt with by our Moscow comrades during the uprising and by the Letts during the days of the famous Lettish republics.[12]

    -V. I. Lenin, Lessons of the Moscow Uprising

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1906/aug/29.htm

    So, at least one form of democracy is supposed to incorporate mass terror into its tactics and we all know how that turned out. Isn’t “democracy” lovely? How is it supposed to work, again?

  357. Corvinus says:

    ANY form of government can be a “control system” and use force to “trample” liberty. That’s our flaw as human beings–we can be swayed by power.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  358. Corvinus says:
    @Kratoklastes

    “Fortunately (for the political class) the bottom 4/5ths of humanity are so fucking stupid that the political grift persists.”

    Including white people? That would be anti-white of you to say. Moreover, how are YOU not part of this 4/5ths?

  359. How many people critique something and forget to point to other preferable ways, while enlightening why those are preferable.

  360. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones

    I meant “remarkably defensive” even for the notoriously biased Snopes.

  361. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Ever seen an ant or a bee or another social animal (a human, for example) when they lose contact with their group, and are tasked with self-determination?

    Their mind isn’t equipped to that end — being able to be in their society demands that they have no autonomous self, if they had one it would constantly suffer in those conditions increasing stress and psychic load.

    Today, especially some parts of the world, have reached a point of technologic and material advance that the constraints weighing upon social species in nature are, in the case of this part of humanity, pretty relaxed.

    However, what Einstein said thinking of the atomic bomb, about the pace gap between technical progress and moral progress in humankind, is true of other things, e.g. technical progress and civilization and the welfare they allow and the mental equipment for self-determination.

    As the women the Internet teems with show, it’s not, at all, a matter of typing on a phone’s or tablet’s virtual keyboard “I am strong, independent, happy”.

    Rulers have been there because they have been needed, and will be there till they aren’t needed.
    Rulers have been as deceptive, scheming, as they have been needed to be, and this won’t change till they need to be all that.

    Somewhere they say: the master shows when the student is ready. It is also a truth that the master departs when the student has learned.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  362. @Jacques Sheete

    Why don’t you look the answer up in MK?

    • Replies: @Truth3
    , @Jacques Sheete
  363. @Corvinus

    Most of RU’s commenters are part of the lower 4/5 especially the Neo Nazis who love to talk about the second coming of the Jewish problem that the first round didn’t get to, as they propagate the love of the first group who they say got a bad rap by none other then the missing Jews.
    Can you imagine letting such crud go on and on.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  364. iceman says:
    @Hail

    excellent insight: this is indeed a wedge to begin some awakening of our normies. posters of the degenerate art placed in the right places. to begin nOW. thank you !!

  365. Sean says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    The current US President is a though-going conspiracy theorist. He insisted Obama was born outside America, and then that his college transcripts were faked, ThenVince Fisher’s death was “very fishy” and after the San Bernadino shootings, that the US government was covering up the existence of accomplices of the shooters and all Muslims should be banned from entering the US. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia’s was not found dead with his pillow over his face according to the FBI, but who repeated hearsay that he had been? A day or so after the event (he may have priority on this one) he came close to impling explosives must have been used on 9/11 because he explicitly said he knew all about the steel structure of the building and made a point of emphasising how massively strong it was around the exterior walls.

    Trump also gave credence to the ‘vaccination causes autism but the medical establishment won’t admit it’ conspiracy theory EL Presidente, as he now is, obtained the nomination while suggesting that his main rival for the nomination, Ted Cruz, was the son of a man who had been one of the Cuban anti-Castro exiles involved in a conspiracy to kill JFK. And Trump made and, more or less kept, a campaign promise to release all still classified CIA files relating to the JFK assassination. He also tried to ban Muslims from entering the US (Executive Order 13769 ).

  366. “Can you imagine letting such crud go on and on.”

    You’re treading on thin ice there Fat Fanny. Everyone knows that jews are evil filth, but calling them scum is just plain anti-semitic.

  367. Alden says:
    @Rich

    Agree, marijuana smoking is not good for anyone. Remember, it’s not your Grandpa’s mild 1965 high anymore.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Twodees Partain
  368. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Keel following your Knesset’ support and promotion for Banderism (Babi Yar, anyone?) Leave decent people alone.

    Israel Is Arming Ukraine’s Blatantly Neo-Nazi Militia:

    Kaganat of Nuland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=mlh6gJmmlN8

  369. Sean says:
    @Parfois1

    The QAnon community had said elites were involved in a child molestation ring and now something quite like Pizzagate is being prosecuted by the feds. Would the ruling elites allow that to happen?

    Pizzagate is the only major conspiracy theory of recent times that the current President of the United States of America has neither seemed to endorse, or almost originated.

  370. Alden says:
    @Dissident

    The most important thing about Jewry as a whole is that the leadership is totally completely pro Zionist. The leadership controls the Jewish media and Jewish representation in government. Non Zionist jews can do nothing against AIPAC and the rest of the leadership.

    • Replies: @Sean
  371. Ahoy says:

    @ Fran Taubman

    Fran says “Can you imagine letting such crud go on and on”. Yea! right, can you?

  372. Marty says:
    @Crimson2

    Yeah, around SF in the ‘70’s, the only whisper about Moscone was that he had a (30-something) black mistress. There was nothing about underage girls or cruising the Bayview for pussy. And that type of thing gets talked about. For example, before it became widely known that Chris Washburn, the Warriors’ first-round draft choice in ‘86, was spending most of his time buying crack in East Oakland, I had pick-up basketball acquaintances in Berkeley telling me about it.

  373. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz

    Maybe, it’s just hearsay though. Willie Brown and his numerous consenting adult girl friends may have been the most sexually virtuous and chaste politician around San Francisco.

    Another story it’s very mean to repeat it but since he’s an enemy of Whites with his advocacy of affirmative action and appointment of ultra liberals to every state office I’ll post it

    Jerry Brown wet his bed until he was 17 years old. Source, his sister Cynthia Kelly.

    I’ll get back you about it.

  374. Sean says:
    @Alden

    There seems to be a lack of money and commitment to support organisations among the Jewish non Zionist community. Are they all talk? More moderate Jews, the type that favour Barak rather than Netanyahu, seem increasingly frustrated with how Trump (forgive the pun) plays the Israel card to get him out of trouble on unrelated issues. I think there is a white gentile establishment allied with liberal Jews, and Trump has leveraged hardline Zionist Jews against this other component of the elite. If Trump has to choose between Palestinians and the people in West Virginia …

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  375. Kudos to Ron Unz for publishing stories of merit regardless where they lead.

    A Free Press is supposed to be our safeguard against this sort of corruption. But, as Unz points out, the Press itself has been corrupted.

    People keep waiting for the shoe to finally drop, but if everyone is corrupt who is going to clean up the mess.

    Mueller?

  376. GGAnon says:

    “I couldn’t recall any previous example of such a strange media reaction to some obscure controversy on the Internet.”

    How about the Pakistani spy ring at the top of Microsoft?
    https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Microsoft

    and the same team at Wikipedia, and bribing the evangelical community
    https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Wikipedia#Affiliations
    https://pulpitandpen.org/2019/07/29/bombshell-justice-democrats-founder-is-the-organizer-of-evangelical-social-justice-movement/

    Take that in addition to the Pakistani spy ring running IT for the House Intelligence Committee, and the Pakistani spy ring taking over the Institute for Strategic Dialogue and the Strong Cities Network, and a Pakistani mayor of the City of London controlling their bankers and banning bikini advertisements.

  377. Anon[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Nambla’s been crusading for that since it was founded. The health problems are far worse for sodomy. Then there’s the fact that gay men are way way more infected with STDs than heterosexual men and women.

    It’s amazing how much pedophilia is not discovered until the kid has a rash discharge diarrhea whatever and the Dr discovers an STD and calls child services.

    • Replies: @David Baker
  378. @Sean

    Do you believe the official stories on the JFK assassination and 9/11?

    Many of the best minds in the world don’t, based on exhaustive examinations of all the best factual evidence.

    One can easily think of dozens of major official stories issued by governments around the world that have been demolished by independent investigators.

    Regarding the JFK assassination, and state-of-the-art analytic techniques, of interest:

    # Understanding The Applications Of Artificial Intelligence In Document Management
    https://www.analyticsindiamag.com/understanding-the-applications-of-artificial-intelligence-in-document-management/

    /quote In 2017, more than 34,000 documents related to John F Kennedy’s assassination were released. The data volume was huge, and data existed in different formats like reference documents, scanned PDF files, hand written notes and images. It would take researchers months to read through this information and hence manually reviewing this data was not the most optimal solution. Microsoft Azure team applied AI based Cognitive Search solution to extract data from these diverse sources and gained insights. Technical architecture for this use case was built using Azure Cognitive Services components like Computer Vision, Face Detection, OCR, Handwriting Recognition, Search and core Azure components like Blob Storage, Azure ML, Azure Functions and Cosmos Database. This solution also annotated text using custom CIA Cryptonyms.

  379. @Anon

    Gay men get diseases because the human anus is filled with bacteria, and they shove their penises, tongues and fingers into those orifices with abandon. (Some even shove small animals up their poop chutes. Now that’s sick!) I’ve always considered AIDS as a bacterial based disease, which liberals (naturally…) have parlayed into some catastrophe we’re all faced with . That’s how puffy lips operate. If you understand that the weird sexual activities gays engage in renders them vulnerable to various infections–most being treated by antibiotics–you’ll discern the origin of bacteria that will be resistant to treatment. Since the deaths of AIDS victims occur from bacterial infections, it’s not difficult to detect where they came from.

  380. Sparkon says:
    @Alden

    Well, maybe, maybe not. Quite a few states recognize Marijuana’s therapeutic effects for a number of ailments, including arthritis, and issue regulated medical marijuana licenses based on a doctor’s recommendation.

    Additionally, it has been known for quite some time that marijuana has anti-cancer properties going back to the Nixon administration, which was conducting research trying to prove that smoking the weed caused lung cancer, but discovered instead that it reduced tumors, suppressed and possibly even killed cancerous cells. The project was shut down, and the results were sealed.

    https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/22132/did-richard-nixon-commission-a-study-on-the-effects-of-thc-and-then-have-the-res

  381. mssr unz,

    regarding the holocaust there’s still lots of physical evidence at treblinka (or should be) in the form of tons of ash. i suppose that animal ash and wood ash can be distinguished from human ash by chemical, isotopic analysis.

    you’ve got the money. and it wouldn’t cost much. dig.

  382. @Jacques Sheete

    The Founders tried their best to vest some measure of power to the citizenry to direct, either with their votes or by force, the activities of their leaders. Liberals know how to circumvent citizen rights and political resolve, as we can discern with their campaign to disarm Americans, while legislating tyranny upon the premise of a “War on Terror” . (Notice please how these mass shootings and terrorist attacks occurred concomitant with such legislation and international aggression?) One very important facet of our nation’s charter is that the Constitution is O-U-R means to keep the government in check. Puffy lips will do their worst to convince us otherwise.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  383. @Sean

    Major national governments and state actors around the world are largely in the business of engineering conspiracies, detecting conspiracies, disseminating false conspiracy theories and discrediting truthful conspiracy research. This is what they do.

    That would include the US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc.

    In other words, the world is awash in conspiratorial activity of endless varieties.

    Russiagate gives every appearance of having been a conspiracy against Donald Trump hatched by factions within the Deep State: ODNI, CIA, FBI, MI6, MI5, etc. No wonder Trump is highly suspicious of the Deep State.

    In this case, the conspiracy was so poorly planned and executed that it was hoist on its own petard. It is on the verge of being fully exposed to the entire world.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @Corvinus
  384. Anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    You don’t find such an equitable, realistic appraisal of Trump’s first term very often, on blogs and sites of Trump supporters.
    Nice one.

    Of course the captain (Trump) can’t do more than what the other team members (the people who elected him) “allow”.

    • Replies: @Sean
  385. annamaria says:
    @Simon Legree

    Do you mean that while the holo-biz “survivors” have been milking others for 70 years, they had no means to check the facts?

    You pretend on naivete while you know pretty well that any research related to WWII and Jewish holo-biz claims would result in a harsh punishment (including imprisonment) of the researcher plus the attacks of Jewish thugs.
    https://www.unz.com/acockburn/truth-and-fiction-in-elie-wiesels-night/

    Though Wiesel offers himself as a paragon of moral virtue, the truth is somewhat seamier. … Wiesel has for decades tried to pass off his short book “Night” as a true account–a “testimony” in his words– of his experiences at Auschwitz, even though key scenes in the book have been exposed as fiction.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    Lipstadt’s absolute horror at having someone actually dispute the tenets of her academic doctrine could not have been more blatant. Surely no zealous theologian of the European Dark Ages would have reacted any differently. …

    …there have been so many fake Holocaust memoirs over the years that they nearly constitute a literary genre of their own.

    The vicious attacks on honest researchers by the thouroughly dishonest holo-biz activists in the UK and US:

    Dr. Germar Rudolf was a successful young German chemist working at the prestigious Max Planck Institute when he heard of the controversy regarding the Leuchter Report, which he found reasonably persuasive but containing some weaknesses. Therefore, he repeated the analysis on a more thorough basis, and published the results as the Chemistry of Auschwitz, which came to the same conclusions as Leuchter. And just like Leuchter before him, Rudolf suffered the destruction of his career and his marriage, and since Germany treats these matters in harsher fashion, he eventually served five years in prison for his scientific impudence.

    Most recently, Dr. Nicholas Kollerstrom, who had spent eleven years as a historian of science on the staff of University College, London, suffered this same fate in 2008. His scientific interests in the Holocaust provoked a media firestorm of vilification, and he was fired with a single day’s notice, becoming the first member of his research institution ever expelled for ideological reasons. He had previously provided the Isaac Newton entry for a massive biographical encyclopedia of astronomers, and America’s most prestigious science journal demanded that the entire work be pulped, destroying the work of over 100 writers, because it had been fatally tainted by having such a villainous contributor.

    It seems that the UK & US are back to Jewish Bolshevism. Same methods and same dishonesty.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @Miro23
  386. anastasia says:
    @for-the-record

    She gave up her law license. What would she need it for anymore? To remain a lawyer, you must comoplete CLE every two years, pay licensing fees, etc. Why do it when you know you will never practice law again. She was too busy doing things like taking a cruise down the Seine while Notre Dame was burning.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  387. Bert says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Here are two Wikipedia articles, one on Demarchy, government by randomly appointed citizens, and the other on the Australian philosopher John Burnheim, a recent advocate of demarchy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burnheim

    No human institution will be perfect, but demarchy would be a huge improvement over the current system that is driving the United States toward disaster.

  388. Alden says:
    @Sean

    It seems that all the funding, even if it’s donations to hospitals and community centers ends up in the hands of the Zionists.

    I believe Soros is anti Zionist and he has money. But he prefers funding BLM, pro criminal district attorneys and judges.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  389. Alden says:
    @for-the-record

    Just looked it up on the Illinois Bar site. No disciplinary problems, no complaints. Feel free to check it out.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  390. @Bert

    Why not just go straight to anarchy in a fully-privatized property-rights-based society (governance by pure markets) since no human institution will be perfect?

    Since I reserve the inherent right to self-govern and assume the risks, why have a randomly appointed citizen make decisions that I, and only I alone, possess the knowledge of the perceived benefits of and this randomly appointed person does not? Sounds like just another form of a representative democracy to me and that’s the problem: no other person can possibly know at any given time what any other persons wants or needs are; it’s a knowledge problem and this logically leads to economic calculation problems and this is exactly how we in America have wound up where we are. So, why move sideways?

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Svigor
  391. @Sean McBride

    All these ‘conspiracies’ distract us and our leaders from our respective duties. Actual government processes are simple, rather dull, and conducted in the open for the press, citizens and other parties to monitor or address. Our government has seen fit to skulk around and spy on Americans, compiling data on them, which they’ll claim as being measures to prevent “Terrorism” or suppress “Hate”. What should truly concern Americans is that an entire sector of our government is aligned with the media (See TASS) and they conduct campaigns to compel voters, minorities, illegal aliens and other proponents of Big Government to sustain these unconstitutional intrusions. Diverting our attention away from those activities seems to be the function of our media these days.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Svigor
  392. anastasia says:

    Pizzagate “may” be true. Men have been hanged for less.

  393. Haven’t had the luxury of enough time to read all the comments yet so this may be asked and answered – if so, my apologies for the duplication.

    Is this how Unz.com ends? Is Ron now a domestic terrorist?

    https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Jon Baptist
  394. anastasia says:

    Epstein going to jail for 20 or more years? Epstein being killed? Think again.

    Roger Stone, in his book onClinton’s War on Women, pp. 122-123 states as follows:

    “He was manipulating currencies for the CIA”, said Hoffenberg, former owner of the New York Post and collections business genius, who flamed out in a multi-million dollar Ponzi sam in the 80’s. “His pal Larry Summers hooked him up.”, Hoffenberg said of then then secretary of the Treasury. “He destabilized Middle Eastern currencies to help Israel. He’s protected.”, he told us.

    From the Daily Beast:

    In the 1995 letter, Forester de Rothschild writes, “Dear Mr. President (Clinton) : It was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy’s house. There was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart. Namely, affirmative action and the future.” She then goes on to note that she’s sending him a memo on the latter subject, which George Stephanopoulos had asked her to write, and signs off, “Sincerely, Lynn Forester.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-visited-clinton-white-house-multiple-times-in-early-90s?ref=home

    • Replies: @annamaria
  395. @Stan d Mute

    It’s probably only a matter of time. By logical extension it means the state can (and undoubtedly will) define any individual who openly questions an official narrative or shares a dissenting opinion of said narrative an “enemy of the state”.

    It certainly shreds the 1A, but, no surprise there. The “living, breathing document”- types can cherry-pick the constitution any way they want and it’s worthless anyway.

    Scary times for people who believe in freedom…

    • Replies: @JackOH
  396. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/325/

    Now imagine that these were two communities near each other living in quiet harmony. Then Washington hears about the situation and sends a social improvement team to furnish each community with more diversity by merging them into a single community. Here is the new distribution of kinship in the top panel and, in the bottom panel, the distribution of closest kin for each of the 58 members of the new merged community. In the new diverse community the average person can find someone related as f~0.06, corresponding roughly to a great-grandchild at f=1/16. Suddenly there is a fitness payoff to discrimination. Anything I do for my nearest cryptic kinsman is equivalent to doing .06/.5 12.5% of the same thing for myself, or rather for my Darwinian fitness. Suddenly there would be not-insignificant selection for kin and ethnic discrimination, even bigotry or racism.

    The above two examples, French and Japanese, are large populations with deep gene genealogies. The HGDP also has several small ethnic populations in their sample, and the distribution of kinship within these populations is quite different. This figure shows the data from the Druze, a community in the Middle East that has endured episodes of very small effective size. Here opportunities for discord and clannishness are high as individuals able to discriminate kin would ally against the “others.” In this kind of social/genetic environment one would predict very different patterns of family and clan and group loyalty and cooperation. One is reminded for example of the discord and acrimony that is often reported about reservation politics in North America.

  397. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Without the superfluity of adjectives, this article would have been both shorter and more readable.

    With at least some shreds of evidence in support of your hypothesis, the article would even have been worth reading.

  398. @Simon Legree

    Since it takes two to four hours at temperatures ranging from 1,400 and 2,100 F, or 760 and 1,150 C, the estimated energy required to cremate one body is roughly equal to the amount of fuel required to drive 4,800 miles, or 7,725 kilometers.

    Those Nazis had odd priorities. You would think in the middle of a war they would divert energy resources to fuel tanks, airplanes, and trucks. Germany has very little oil reserves.

    • Replies: @Simon Legree
  399. anastasia says:

    Another brilliant article by Ron Unz

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete, Miro23
  400. JackOH says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    ” . . . [A]ny individual who openly questions an official narrative or shares a dissenting opinion of said narrative an “enemy of the state’.”

    OE—, yeah, pretty much. My judgment is the meaningful exercise of the First Amendment is probably pretty damned close to being a dead letter. President Trump’s no-filters tweeting is sort of sui generis. Unz Review is remarkable, an exception.

    I’ve “sold” Unz Review successfully. I was grumbling about some articles and comments to a friend of mine. College-educated guy, and I’ve known him for years. I was just talking loosely when he piped up, “They ought to shut it down!” He seemed genuinely angry, and I’m sure he’d reconsider his response later if I asked him. Still, I was startled that a bright guy would reach for government suppression of speech as a go-to.

    Our masters need stable narratives. Those narratives don’t have to be just, economically sound, or to make much sense at all. They just have to be stable.

    They definitely don’t want debate that would undermine the legitimacy of those narratives. So we get that extremely narrow, inconclusive, and fragmented rhetoric, such as the stuff uttered by the Democratic contenders.

    As I mention in my #252 above, they’re willing to reach for unscrupulous, criminal activities to enforce orthodoxy. I used to check under my car hood and test my brakes, while I was getting whomped on.

  401. @Corvinus

    ANY form of government can be a “control system” and use force to “trample” liberty.

    You little genius, you!

    That’s our flaw as human beings–we can be swayed by power.

    That’s not our only flaw, and we can be acted upon in any number of ways by power as I’m sure you now realize.

    Who sez ya can’t teach an old crow new trickz?

  402. @Corvinus

    Moreover, how are YOU not part of this 4/5ths?

    You can tell by his comments that he’s not stupid. Now, how hard was that?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  403. @Anonymous

    Rulers have been there because they have been needed …

    Sez who, and who needed ’em?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  404. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Oh my God {umm… that would be Jesus Christ, you know, the one mocked in the Talmud}…

    What do I see here???

    Fran Linda Taubman Rice Sock-Puppet is BACK!

    The lying bitch lives!

    Send her to Maidan in downtown Kiev… she needs to get her new hasbara pay cartload of Hryvnia with a few Shekels thrown in for good measure… along with her new (((talking point))) (not points, she’s a one-tune whistle) from the new Kolomoisky led Clown! That would be… RUSSIA BAD! GERMAN NAZIS WORSE! UKRAINIAN FAKE NAZIS ARE GOOD SHABBOS GOYIM!

    Start digging at Babi Yar, you old Baba Yaga (((Баба-Яга))). Let us know when you find more than three teeth.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  405. @Fran Taubman

    Why don’t you look the answer up in MK?

    I already know the answer. I asked the one I responded to and who has chosen to avoid answering. Why don’t you chose to take a hike?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  406. Sean says:
    @David Baker

    Conspiratorial thinking can have an engaging effect. Maybe that is why comercial fictional entertainments, which have to use what works to get the audience interested, are so often about plots that the storyline is called a ‘plot’. Anyway, Trump understood the power of conspiratorial narrative to energise people. He used that energy to put across a what was a rather left wing economic analysis. The final Trump advert his campaign brought out before he was elected was luridly anti Wall Street. Trump had segwayed into a more prosaic political perspective.

    The key event sparking the American Revolution was a conspiracy theory about the Quebec Act which abolished reference to the Protestant faith from the oath of allegiance and free practice of shock horror, practice of the Catholic faith freely permitted. It was seen as an obvious Papist plot to hand north America over to Catholics, who were regarded as practicing idolatry not Christianity

    The Conspiracy Theory Within the Declaration of Independence The founding document of the US alleged more that British intention to impose unjust taxes. The Declaration of Independence alleges an British conspiracy to establish absolute tyranny and subject the population of America colony states to slavery.

    The original draft of the DoI by Thomas Jefferson asserted that the British had prevented the colonies from abolishing black slavery. George Washington used the all the bullcrap to get people fired up but swiftly moved on to ban his officers from participating a traditional burning of the Pope in effigy beloved by the Patriots. used French Catholics as allies, and had his emissaries attend a mass for the dead French. This was why Benedict Arnold, the most competent military leader of the revolution and its earliest hero, switched sides. I don’t think Trump is distracted, his first order of business is to be reelected , only then will be able deal with immigrants. it’s similar to how Roosevelt had to win again to push the New Deal on the establishment. To get a second term Trump had to perform as advertised on the economic front, which he has more or less done.

  407. @Corvinus

    I see nothing controversial regarding his statement and from where I’m standing the evidence is empirically and incontrovertible. I would argue that his math may actually be a little off and the number is slightly higher.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  408. aNOn[683] • Disclaimer says:

    Je suis CTDDE.

    The FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019, describes “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” as a growing threat, and notes that it is the first such report to do so. It lists a number of arrests, including some that haven’t been publicized, related to violent incidents motivated by fringe beliefs.

    The document specifically mentions QAnon, a shadowy network that believes in a deep state conspiracy against President Trump, and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring including Clinton associates was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant (which didn’t actually have a basement).

    Exclusive: FBI document warns conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat
    https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html

    Thus the Epstein Deep State protects itself by othering you. Don’t think you haven’t been included in MAIN CORE.

    The U.S. Government has, almost certainly, established a database and tracking system for something like eight million Americans who have been designated as threats to national security. The system is called MAIN CORE and it is being run under the auspices of highly classified Continuity of Government (COG) operations.

    The Last Roundup: MAIN CORE
    https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=2590

    And that is why I post anonymously, through two foreign VPNs.

  409. @Jacques Sheete

    I am here defending my tribe. Anyone who screams about rereading MK to see what to do about the Jews as you said Hitler had it right. Is low hanging Nazi loving fruit.
    I am to fight back, against anyone thinking Mk is required reading. I am a proud Jew.

    You say stupid stuff and ask stupid questions. You are ignorant.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Jacques Sheete
  410. ”No one knows better than the king
    Life’s a filthy dirty game
    Very very hard to win

    [MORE]

    No one knows better than the king
    How to disregard the pain
    Never, never let it in

    No one knows better than the king
    That an angry man goes blind
    Knocks his head against the wall

    No one knows better than the king
    How it hurts a man to fight
    That he’s human after all

    No one knows better than the king
    What a desperate man may do
    When it gets too hard to bear

    No one knows better than the king
    How to spit on the taboos
    As they thought he’d never dare

    No one knew better than the king
    How to care for number one
    How to take and never give

    No one knew better than the king
    That when all is said and done
    That’s the only way to live

    No one knew better than the king
    Just how angry you can be
    When they cage you in with laws

    ”No one knew better than the king
    That a man who thinks he’s free
    knocks his head against a wall

    No one knew better than the king
    Just how bitter it would be
    To be beaten after all

    No one knew better than the king
    They’re the ones who fix the game
    They’re the ones with loaded dice

    No one knew better than the king
    That they’d get him all the same
    And they made him pay the price”

    JOHN ZORN

    The Ballad Of Hank Mccain Lyrics

  411. @Truth3

    The bitch lives!! Yes I was under an assumed name on PG’s site as I was banned as Fran Taubman.
    And then I admitted it on another site. So I was pretty up front about it.
    What is Maidan?

    I am a one tune proud ZIONIST Jew shooting Jew haters, the stupid ones first. If the shoe fits !!!
    Dust off your penis, the only body part you know how to use. Just a low life Jew Hater.

  412. @Alden

    Agreed, but this guy, davidgmillsatty, who is supposedly an attorney, claims that the US is a democracy by design and the proof is that our laws are often brought into being by referendum. He’s wrong.

  413. Art says:

    Off Topic Irony

    Trump trashes rat infested Baltimore.

    Trump’s son-in-law owns rat infested buildings in Baltimore.

    [MORE]

    Jared Kushner owns Baltimore apartments ‘infested’ with rodents, mould and maggots

    By Mike Ives
    July 30, 2019 “Information Clearing House”
    – Donald Trump characterised Elijah Cummings’ Baltimore-based congressional district as a “rodent infested mess” where “no human” would want to live, in a now-viral tweetstorm on Saturday.

    His criticism rang with a particular irony in Baltimore County, where the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner owns more than a dozen apartment complexes that have been cited with hundreds of code violations and, critics say, provide sub-standard housing to lower income tenants.
    In an interview on Saturday, Baltimore County Executive John Olszewski Jr condemned Mr Trump’s comments as “an attack on basic decency”.

    “It is certainly ironic that the president’s own son-in-law was complicit in contributing to some of the neglect that the president purports to be so concerned about,” Mr Olszewski, a Democrat, added.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52003.htm

  414. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Let’s see…

    Proud. Zionist. Jew.

    Admitting meanwhile she is a lying bitch.

    And then, she mentions a penis.

    Wowwwwww.

    Pretends not to know what Maidan means. Hmmmm.

    Proud. Pride. Pretending (((what she is best at))). And Penis…

    Oh, my God, it’s a Jew Transexual He-She. Circumcised twice, as it were.

    Bet her next name will be Caitlin.

    Only she won’t own any Olympic Gold Medals.

    Get lost bitch. Take your foreskins with you.

  415. renfro says:
    @James N. Kennett

    1952: Mosaddeq Nationalization of Iran’s Oil Industry Leads to Coup

    Time Magazine’s Man of the Year cover for 1951. Mohammad Mosaddeq
    ]
    Iranian President Mohammad Mosaddeq moves to nationalize the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in order to ensure that more oil profits remain in Iran. His efforts to democratize Iran had already earned him being named Time Magazine’s Man of the Year for 1951. After he nationalizes it, Mosaddeq realizes that Britain may want to overthrow his government, so he closes the British Embassy and sends all British civilians, including its intelligence operatives, out of the country.

    Britain finds itself with no way to stage the coup it desires, so it approaches the American intelligence community for help. Their first approach results in abject failure when Harry Truman throws the British representatives out of his office, stating that “We don’t overthrow governments; the United States has never done this before, and we’re not going to start now.”

    After Eisenhower is elected in November 1952, the British have a much more receptive audience, and plans for overthrowing Mosaddeq are produced. The British intelligence operative who presents the idea to the Eisenhower administration later will write in his memoirs, “If I ask the Americans to overthrow Mosaddeq in order to rescue a British oil company, they are not going to respond. This is not an argument that’s going to cut much mustard in Washington. I’ve got to have a different argument.…I’m going to tell the Americans that Mosaddeq is leading Iran towards Communism.” This argument wins over the Eisenhower administration, who promptly decides to organize a coup in Iran (see August 19, 1953). [Stephen Kinzer, 7/29/2003]

    Entity Tags: Dwight Eisenhower, Harry S. Truman, Muhammad Mosaddeq

    Timeline Tags: US confrontation with Iran, US-Iran (1952-1953)

  416. Trunews (55′) gets into how Epstein was flying Nobel prize winning scientists to his pedo island, Zoro Ranch, Palm Beach, and Manhattan. Many of these “scientists” were transhumanists and Physicists. Stephen Hawkings even visited him after his guilty plea for pedophilia.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html

    Mr. Epstein attracted a glittering array of prominent scientists. They included the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, who discovered the quark; the theoretical physicist and best-selling author Stephen Hawking; the paleontologist and evolutionary biologist Stephen Jay Gould; Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and best-selling author; George M. Church, a molecular engineer who has worked to identify genes that could be altered to create superior humans; and the M.I.T. theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek, a Nobel laureate.

    Rick and gang point out that all these scientists could not have not noticed that there were young girls running around and all kinds of pornographic art and photographs and art on the walls even if they kept their underpants on for the massages.

    So we have the worlds most powerful politicians, actors, bankers, lawyers, media moguls, heads of industry, and now scientists participating in pedo-orgies with good old Jeff Epstein.

    Meanwhile these same “scientists” all sing the exact same tune: global warming is the planet’s biggest threat, on 9/11 three massive buildings crashed after 2 were hit by jets, 6 gorillian were gassed, MH17 was hit by a Russian missile, 5G is as harmless as vaccinations, dozens of HAARP stations spread across the planet are only for “research” and those chem-trails you see in the sky are merely “contrails”.

    What I find most disgusting is how self-proclaimed “intellectuals” and “scholars” like Ron Unz instantly circle their “peer reviewed” wagons around all these other owned “scientists” and “nobel prize winners” and then scream their “It’s Science” war cry whenever their preferred narrative is threatened.

  417. Bert says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Because anarchy will always rapidly move to dictatorship of the “big man.” Hunter-gatherers have always governed themselves by consensus. The next natural transition was to hydraulic projects for agriculture, overseen by an oligarchy. Where there was no need for useful projects, as in the Southeastern Amerindians, the big men ordered the building of earthen pyramids. Democracy was the next step, but it only works in small polities. For large ones, democracy will always be subverted by the big men. Demarchy would have the means to prevent that. As for anarchists, well, you simply fail to grasp the fact of male hierarchy formation. Women are hypergamous, so the reward of attaining the highest status among males is that which is most fundamental: sex. Hence big men.

    Anarchy is ignorant of human nature.

  418. @niceland

    It is perfectly reasonable to assume that all msm are controlled. Information control is the basis for everything.

  419. @Fran Taubman

    Kinda weird to be a self proclaimed Zionist Jew and getting all pissy about others hating you for it.

    That is like getting mad about the sun rising every morning, futile and idiotic.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  420. @Realist

    The victory was for all of Vietnam and the USA deserved to have McCain alive to do exactly what he did. The gift that keeps on giving even after death.

    • LOL: Realist
  421. @David Baker

    One very important facet of our nation’s charter is that the Constitution is O-U-R means to keep the government in check.

    Please provide evidence for that claim otherwise it’s another myth. It’s also “bass ackwards,” i.e., it’s a tool to keep us proles, peasants and peons in check, because it was intended to establish a govenment and governments exist to manage slaves for the benefit of the ruling classes.

    “Our” constitution?

    And, as matter of fact, there is not the slightest probability that the Constitution has a single bona fide supporter in the country. That is to say, there is not the slightest probability that there is a single man in the country, who both understands what the Constitution really is, and sincerely supports it for what it really is.

    – Lysander Spooner, No Treason (1870)
    No. VI. The Constitution of no Authority.

    … the Constitution is no such instrument as it has generally been assumed to be …

    -Lysander Spooner, No Treason (1870)
    No. VI., The Constitution of no Authority.

    The ostensible supporters of the Constitution, like the ostensible supporters of most other governments, are made up of three classes, viz.: 1. Knaves, a numerous and active class, who see in the government an instrument which they can use for their own aggrandizement or wealth. 2. Dupes—a large class, no doubt—each of whom, because he is allowed one voice out of millions in deciding what he may do with his own person and his own property, and because he is permitted to have the same voice in robbing, enslaving, and murdering others, that others have in robbing, enslaving, and murdering himself, is stupid enough to imagine that he is a “free man,” a “sovereign”; that this is “a free government”; “a government of equal rights,” “the best government on earth,”[2] and such like absurdities. 3. A class who have some appreciation of the evils of government, but either do not see how to get rid of them, or do not choose to so far sacrifice their private interests as to give themselves seriously and earnestly to the work of making a change.

    -Lysander Spooner—No Treason, no. 6: The Constitution of no Authority ~1870

  422. Skeptikal says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    “The worst addictive drug is alcohol”

    And perhaps also nicotine. Very addictive.

  423. sayless says:
    @Miro23

    The video of the Dutch banker is genuine in my opinion too. I watched it with no sound, which made it easier to concentrate on his facial expressions and hand language, his eyes dilating with emotion. Decent man; horrific story.

  424. sayless says:
    @Bork

    If Qanon is only a psychological operation it is a dazzlingly brilliant one. One has to admire the artistry.

    Q has informed his followers that disinformation will appear in his drops, since members of the Cabal follow him too.

    I wonder about the bonfides of purplechan, leaking from within the administration. In any case Trump is in on it, I think. Some followers maintain a list of Q proofs. For the drops themselves, look at qmap.pub.

    Q purports to be a group of people, more than seven but less than ten, all but three in military intelligence.

  425. @Bert

    Sorry, but I do not do Wikipedia on subjects of this nature.

    You got this correct, though,

    No human institution will be perfect …

    and that’s really all one needs to know.

  426. annamaria says:
    @anastasia

    Correct.
    The banksters promote and protect their willing tools like the Clintons, Blairs, Sarkozy, Epstein, Knesset, ISIS, MI6, the pedophilic establishment in the UK, Saudi specialists in sawing people apart, Ukrainian and Canadian Banderites, et cetera.

    This is why the banksterized global system reacts with such viciousness and violence towards honest men and women who expose the “tools” crimes.

    While “madam” Chislaine Maxwell is free, Assange has been fighting for his life.

    New promising development re Assange:
    “Judge’s ruling throws huge spanner into US extradition proceedings against Assange,” By Tom Coburg

    August 01, 2019 “Information Clearing House” – A US judge has ruled that WikiLeaks was fully entitled to publish the Democratic National Congress (DNC) emails, which means no law was broken. The ruling is highly significant as it could impact upon the US extradition proceedings against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, as well as the ongoing imprisonment of whistleblower Chelsea Manning.

    The ruling:

    “If WikiLeaks could be held liable for publishing documents concerning the DNC’s political financial and voter-engagement strategies simply because the DNC labels them ‘secret’ and trade secrets, then so could any newspaper or other media outlet.”

    In other words, if WikiLeaks is subject to prosecution, then every media outlet in the world would be. The judge argued that:

    “[T]he First Amendment prevents such liability in the same way it would preclude liability for press outlets that publish materials of public interest despite defects in the way the materials were obtained so long as the disseminator did not participate in any wrongdoing in obtaining the materials in the first place.” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52021.htm

  427. @Bert

    Because anarchy will always rapidly move to dictatorship of the “big man.”

    And how does that differ from any other form of “-archy”?

    Anarchy is ignorant of human nature.

    Please provide support for that claim. It appears that people who attempt to discredit anarchy are ignorant of human nature.

    “…crimes are very rare among [the Indians]: insomuch that were it made a question, whether no law, as among the [Indian] Americans, or too much law, as among the civilized Europeans, submits man to the greatest evil, one who has seen both conditions of existence would pronounce it to be the last: and that the sheep are happier of themselves, than under care of the wolves. It will be said, that great societies cannot exist without government. [the Indians] therefore break them into small ones.”

    Thomas Jefferson, “Notes on the State of Virginia,” Query XI, 1787

    “Societies exist under three forms, sufficiently distinguishable: 1) without government, as among our Indians; 2) under governments wherein the will of everyone has a just influence, as is the case in England in a slight degree and in our States in a great one; 3) under governments of force, as is the case in all other monarchies and in most of the other republics … It is a problem, not clear in my mind, that the first condition is not the best.

    Thomas Jefferson, Letter to James Madison, Paris, January 30, 1787

  428. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “Israel Is Arming Ukraine’s Blatantly Neo-Nazi Militia:”

  429. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “Neo-Nazi Azov National Corps march/rally in Odessa to celebrate the 5th year anniversary of the far-right’s instituting “Ukrainian order” [Kaganat of Nuland] in the city via the massacre of 40+ people in the Trade Unions House on May 2, 2014.”

    https://twitter.com/mossrobeson__/status/1124048873226481669/video/1

  430. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Zionist project in Ukraine: “Some of the people in the group [supporters of the Kiev regime installed by Nuland-Kagan] were wearing ultra-nationalist Right Sector movement insignia, were armed with chains and bats and carried shields.”
    https://www.rt.com/news/156592-odessa-activists-burnt-alive/

  431. annamaria says:
    @Kartoffelstampfer

    “self-proclaimed “intellectuals” and “scholars”
    — Academia is notorious for institutionalizing nepotism and promoting opportunism.

  432. @Bert

    Democracy was the next step, but it only works in small polities.

    And for very short periods of time.

    Anyway, yours is a key concept that most ‘Merkins are completely ignorant of, yet some of the anti-federalists were aware of it. Here, Brutus questions whether “democracy” is sensible in a nation of three million!

    Now, in a large extended country, it is impossible to have a representation, possessing the sentiments, and of integrity, to declare the minds of the people, without having it so numerous and unwieldly, as to be subject in great measure to the inconveniency of a democratic government.

    The territory of the United States is of vast extent; it now contains near three millions of souls, and is capable of containing much more than ten times that number. Is it practicable for a country, so large and so numerous as they will soon become, to elect a representation, that will speak their sentiments, without their becoming so numerous as to be incapable of transacting public business?

    It certainly is not.

    Brutus, (Robert Yates), To the Citizens of the State of New-York, October 18, 1787

  433. @Bert

    “Because anarchy will always rapidly move to dictatorship of the “big man”.”

    This is a straw-man and a misrepresentation of what I stated.

    I qualified my statement by saying that in order to function in satisfying the wants and needs of consumers (which is what we are in the bigger picture, producers and consumers, even in politics), the state of being in anarchy must be based on a fully-privatized, property-rights-based society. Otherwise, society would descend into chaos much as it is now.

    “Anarchy is ignorant of human nature”

    Again, this is a straw-man that you did not qualify as I did.

    No property-rights anarchist that I know is ignorant of human nature. To the contrary, they are keenly aware of the problem of man’s economic dilemma of not existing in the Garden of Eden where we now have to economize scarce resources and our needs are not met without effort/work/economizing (which is actually why the female also looks for security; she faces the same dilemma since she, too, exists in a world of scarce resources).

    Murray Rothbard and Hans-Hermann Hoppe addressed and laid waste to every one of the supposed arguments against a fully-privatized, property-rights-based state of anarchy in Man, Economy and State (with Power and Market), The Economics and Ethics of Private Property and The Ethics of Liberty. See here:

    https://mises.org/library/man-economy-and-state-power-and-market

    https://mises.org/library/economics-and-ethics-private-property-0

    https://mises.org/library/ethics-liberty

    The long strands of thought in Rothbard’s 1,000 page M.E.S. w/P&M can be difficult to follow if one is not accustomed to these things or suffers attention-deficit but the lay-offs is there for the mind that is patient.

    Read and educate yourself.

  434. @Jacques Sheete

    I have yet to meet one person who can give me a clear, cogent and coherent reason for how and why I am bound by a document I did not sign written by dead men who existed long before me. Not one.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Svigor
  435. @Skeptikal

    I’d say the worst addictive drug is mother’s milk. People keep craving it, and even demanding it long after mama should’ve weaned ’em properly.

    The biggest babies long to have the power to force others to feed ’em when they should in fact be feeding themselves. McCain, for instance, is a fine example of the infantile perversion.

    Why, in short, are people steeped in such a “vile” and “monstrous vice” as consenting to their own subjection?

    -Murray Rothbard, Why Most People Embrace the State — And Why Some Will Always Reject It

    https://mises.org/wire/why-most-people-embrace-state-—-and-why-some-will-always-reject-it

    Laziness and cowardice are the reasons why so great a proportion of men, long after nature has released them from alien guidance (natura-liter maiorennes), nonetheless gladly remain in lifelong immaturity, and why it is so easy for others to establish themselves as their guardians. It is so easy to be immature (Unmündigkeit).

    – Immanuel Kant, What Is Enlightenment? (1784)

  436. Corvinus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    “You can tell by his comments that he’s not stupid. Now, how hard was that?”

    Just because you agree with him does not make him intelligent. So, I’ll pose the same question to you–what makes you NOT part of the 4/5ths? Please be specific.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  437. sayless says:
    @Skeptikal

    Zen and the Art had a good ending for Pirsig and his son, but agree, the back-and-forth between them through most of it is dreadful.

    Phaedrus eventually has a breakthrough and all is well.

  438. Rich says:
    @Fran Taubman

    If you are a Zionist I’m sure you’re living in Israel, right? That’s where every true Zionist belongs. I don’t think you can call yourself a real Zionist unless you live in the nation founded for Zionists. Otherwise you’re just a poser.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  439. Escher says:
    @TKK

    So Joan rivers is now an authority on gender and sexual orientation of presidents and their spouses?

  440. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    It’s said by the evidence of every human society (a society is anything from a couple of teens who are dating up to a 1-billion continent-state), how it forms, how it holds together, how it runs and is run.

    It’s the same as saying that we need 2 hands and 5 fingers per hand.
    It’s said by the same — of course you can voice your dissent against nature, the world, and its history since it started up to at least today, and call them wrong, or not needed.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  441. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:

    @Unz

    More interesting than the bulk of the populace, who doesn’t see the strings (because you can have selective sight up to a point, and if your way of life requires you not see many things, then you are going to not see many things), I find those cute personages who see the strings and yet they don’t see them.

    So that when you broach the strings topic to them, looking at them and their reaction you see that they see the strings, but you also see that they really don’t want to see the strings, therefore they don’t see them, while seeing them.

    These are the people not so comfortable whenever they happen into a mirror. They live not seeing what they see, and, also, seeing what they don’t see (but the MSM, for example, tells them it’s there, so they see it… notwithstanding that that they don’t see it).

  442. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    It’s observation of global reality, and consideration of the sum of our interactions with humans who have happened to be in our way, what educates us best.
    If we are… liable to getting educated, of course.

  443. @Skeptikal

    Overall, *sugar* may be a more destructive drug than alcohol, barbiturates, cocaine, marijuana, meth, nicotine, heroin, etc.

  444. getaclue says:

    Seems the FBI is totally on board with covering up for the powerful and well connected Pedos documented in the article on “Pizzagate” — and using “Law Enforcement” to do so. Will they be raiding this board here or just trying to censor it? Raises serious questions about who is “running” things there. (If you read the comments most of them are by people who have bought into the propaganda/lies put out by the Media to protect these cretins–so we all now know what is behind all the censorship we are seeing–protecting these creeps). What does this tell us about who is running “our” Government–specifically the FBI?: https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_15

  445. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    I watched it some time ago. Hard going. I tend towards friendliness, but now.. there are some people I see in a whole new way.. and then one starts perceiving little things. It is funny, the way our brain is wired for truth..

  446. @Rabbitnexus

    Well stated, and the basic notion that government has the rightful authority to decree which drugs are within their power to ban is never addressed by these drug warriors. I maintain that, no matter what harm a person might do to themselves by using any drug, no level of government has the rightful authority to legislate control over the right of people to medicate themselves as they see fit.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  447. @Alden

    All right, you’ve made your statement. Now detail your justification for government having the power to jail anyone for possessing or using pot.

    • Replies: @Alden
  448. annamaria says:

    The Persians have already had their historical encounter with the Jews. https://thesaker.is/war-gaming-the-persian-gulf-conflict/

    “The real question is how bad could they [Iranians] damage Gulf oil production infrastructure and how long would it take to rebuild?”

    — Why would we want to destroy what is [ultimately] ours?? [Iranian]. Why not provide machine guns to the 2 million oppressed Shi’a in Qatif… Why not take as many of the 10,000 soldiers at the un-defendable Bagram base in Afghanistan hostage, as well as the 5,000 or so sailors of the Fifth Fleet stationed in Bahrain? [ this is a Q from a comment section of Seic Semper Tyrannis]… Why not bomb the control centers and runways of all the airfields the US would want to use to take out our radar installations out in the first few weeks (so that they can then send in their Depends™ -wearing pilots to take out our nuclear sites). …

    Why not take out Dimona and the Haifa Port Chemical Terminal and the Ben-Gurion Airport control tower? Why not make Israel a no-fly zone, so that the dual passport holders can make their way back to Europe and New York, which is where they came from in the first place? …

    And as for the Persian Gulf, someone rightly characterized it as the Hotel California: “You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!” …

    Yes, Russia isn’t too happy about the possibility of Iranian control over such a large geopolitical jugular vein, but hey, it’s geographical determinism; they’ll get used to it. … And better the oil in the hands of the rational Shi’a than the crazy-as-a-loon American cowboys.

  449. Based on the evidence in this thread I have to say that the quality of the Hasbara shills has been going down.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  450. @Jacques Sheete

    True, and centralization was the goal all along. The vagueness of the language in some areas was included in order to make possible all the parsing of the articles by attorneys defending encroachments on the rights and reserved powers of the states and their citizenry.

    What was not included in any article was any power of enforcement that could stand as a bar against any extensionist procedure against what should have been clear statements of definition in the powers assigned to each branch.

  451. Rush was on a tear about the need for conservative involvement at the local level one day. A caller said, he gave up trying to run for office, because he couldn’t find a way into the local republican party – he was told over and over again, without a “handle” – no one is allowed to wield the power of office.

    He learned that he was just too squeaky clean for public office. Mr. Smith would NEVER be allowed to get to Washington. Access to power is coveted and controlled by the party system, and if you don’t have skeletons to keep you in line, you can’t become dog catcher.

    Rush didn’t handle this well…. usually quick on his feet, Limbaugh was mumbling and blubbering about hubris and, uh, you know, um, well, er, the status, um, quo, ….. hard break.

    There was something about that exchange that shook me. I knew instinctively that the caller had taken Limbaugh by surprise, and he wasn’t able to deflect, detract or diffuse the charge. It was jolting.

    Beyond that, it’s been self evident that pols have been controlled by evidence of their appetites for decades. Vanilla adultery morphed into homosexuality, which quickly became pedophilia.

    I always said Hastert became Speaker BECAUSE he was a pedophile, not in spite of it.

    Ditto for Bathhouse Barry, and wife Mike ….

    Does anyone else wonder at the speed of trans gender advocacy since that gruesome twosome exited the WH? ….. Acceptance and promotion of trans genders as commonplace and of urgent concern tells me the ENTIRE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT is priming the nation for President Mike O

  452. Bert says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    I allocate my time according to my estimate of the cost/benefit ratio, which for reading Rothbard is too high.

    But pray tell me, in the social system you desire, who is it that enforces property rights?

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  453. @Twodees Partain

    Agree button used with the qualification that they are not violent in their acquirement and/or use/abuse of such substances.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  454. @Twodees Partain

    “centralization was the goal all along.”

    Agreed again and this is always true of any form of statism. Always and without exception.

  455. Hans says:

    Excellent short piece: HOW ISRAEL CENSORS THE INTERNET – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8dXHBFUdXc&feature=youtu.be

  456. @OEMIKITLOB

    “…but the lay-offs is there…”

    Should read “payoff is there”.

    My apology.

  457. @Astuteobservor II

    You mean the Neo Nazis who cannot put two sentences together without a MK reference manual.
    Lol

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  458. @Rich

    Do all the Neo Nazis Jew haters lie in Nazi land? Get a fucking life.

  459. @Bert

    “I allocate my time according to my estimate of the cost/benefit ratio, which for reading Rothbard is too high.”

    Understood, but, this means you are left to defend your position with incoherent and illogical statements.

    “But pray tell me, in the social system you desire, who is it that enforces property rights?”

    The same types of agencies that are unfortunately entrusted to perform those tasks now and fail abysmally to do them justly and economically now (i.e. private, for-profit law courts, private security agencies, insurance companies, etc.) because they are “public” services (i.e. we are all forced to pay for them irregardless of usage, level of service, outcomes, etc.).

    If you could adjust your cost/benefit ratio and read the relevant material on the subjects you would learn how this works to every individuals benefit rather than “filtering” the idea through your present lens of how things function at the present time.

    Law and security are goods and services just like hamburgers or automobiles, it’s just that the untrained mind does not recognize this fact.

  460. @Stan d Mute

    Why did Yahoo report on this on August 1st after Unz uploaded his article on the 29th of July?

    Zero percent change that Rita Katz of Israel-linked “SITE” being identified as a “domestic” threat by the FBI even though there is this. https://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757

    FBI Conspiracy Theory Redacted

    “…Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy theory…Pizzagate conspiracy theory…”

    https://www.scribd.com/document/420379775/FBI-Conspiracy-Theory-Redacted

  461. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    That’s really ‘Rich’… the Liar extraordinaire calling others Liars.

    • LOL: Rich
  462. @OEMIKITLOB

    Likewise, I haven’t met one who could explain why it’s “our” document either, or how it actually “guarantees’ our “freedoms.”

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  463. @Corvinus

    Just because you agree with him does not make him intelligent.

    I never said that.

    So, I’ll pose the same question to you–what makes you NOT part of the 4/5ths? Please be specific.

    For the same reason he’s not! Now that wasn’t so hard, was it? 😉

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  464. @OEMIKITLOB

    Btw, I am so confident in the private, property-rights-based model that I am even willing to allow others who do not choose it to co-exist in the same territory (i.e. competing firms of governance) so long as I and others who choose our form do not have to finance your chosen form. Can you say the same? That you would allow competing governance fully-financed by your own justly gained property?

    In short, if you like your government, you can keep it. Haha!

  465. Alfred says:
    @Parfois1

    But even direct democracy – although an improvement – is still flawed without strong and effective means to prevent the emergence of partisan and dictatorial power

    I guess the people through Direct Democracy can vote on further refinements. I don’t think the public even in the USA is very happy with Zionists totally controlling the internet, all media and Hollywood, for example. Once diverse opinions are permitted once again, real democracy has a chance of flourishing.

    The important thing is that Direct Democracy will demolish this Red versus Blue pony show.

  466. @Jacques Sheete

    All public servants, myself included, swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution, which grants Human Rights and identifies inalienable Rights of American citizens. The problem we’re facing today is that minorities and women are petitioning our government to expand far beyond established Constitutional parameters to impose gender/race/sexual orientation and religious (Hate Crime Laws for Jews, and soon, laws forbidding questioning of their Holocaust) protection statutes. Our leaders are not supposed to focus upon such issues, but if they desire to expand their authority, that would be their means.

  467. annamaria says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You still did not get it. One more time:

    “Israel Is Arming Ukraine’s Neo-Nazi Militia:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=0txqZUjAp3s

    “Neo-Nazi Azov National Corps” rallies in Odessa to celebrate the 5th year anniversary of Maidan revolution (remember Kagan-Nuland?): https://twitter.com/mossrobeson__/status/1124048873226481669/video/1

    Your tribe has sold the memory of victims of WWII for gesheft, as usual: https://katehon.com/article/riding-tiger-zionism-israel-and-far-right

    Israel supplies arms to the Ukrainian military which is composed of significant elements who honour Bandera’s legacy…

    Pictures of members of the Azov Battalion posing with Israeli-made weapons incensed Israeli human rights groups who filed a petition seeking a court injunction to prevent arms exports to Ukraine. This is not the first time that the government of Israel has armed an anti-Semitic regime. Back in the 1970s, it supplied arms to the Argentinian military Junta which was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Jews.

    It is also worth noting the involvement of Israeli citizens during the Maidan coup. Five Ukrainian Jewish emigres, who were former Israeli Defence Force soldiers, led a group of 40 street thugs in battles against the security forces of the Yanukovytch government. These street fighters belonged to the ultra-nationalist Svoboda Party…

    Neo-Nazi Svoboda leader Oleh Tyahnybok, the bestest friend of the Jewish State: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554

    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @refl
  468. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peripatetic Commenter

    They always sound like bottom of the barrel goblins so I can’t see the difference.

  469. @annamaria

    Did they find another suitcase? (Hana Brady) they can parade around our public schools with, or did they unearth the drawings of that Giant Nuclear Death Ray which could zap 20,000 Jews out of existence, and not leave a trace?

  470. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @gustafus21

    Beyond that, it’s been self evident that pols have been controlled by evidence of their appetites for decades. Vanilla adultery morphed into homosexuality, which quickly became pedophilia.

    Torture and murder of children is actually the last step.

  471. Svigor says:
    @Tusk

    I heard about this guy, but the way I heard it, he chose that name after the PizzaGate story became a thing, and did it to be ironic or cheeky or whatever. Obviously that has turned out badly for him, but it doesn’t exactly do anything for the PizzaGate story.

  472. @Alden

    No clients usually equals no complaints. No legal actions filed by her would also equal no disciplinary actions from the Illinois bar..

    • Replies: @Alden
  473. @gustafus21

    Something cropped up about Rush and a trip he took south of the border. I remember furtive references to pedophilia in connection with that trip. Bernie Ward, who was a nighttime Talk Radio luminary in the San Francisco region, was caught sending child pornography images over the internet, while discussing his having sex with his children. He would’ve been a great president, if your criteria is valid.

  474. Ahoy says:

    @ Fran Taubman

    Be careful Fran, the monstrous 911 attack on the American people eventually will brake open and I would like to see you then how proud of a Zionist you will be. In the meantime, enjoy this video of your hero Epstein.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  475. @David Baker

    “All public servants, myself included,”

    Oh, you’re a public tit addict. That explains the total stupidity of your remarks.

    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @David Baker
  476. @Twodees Partain

    And you are a liberal, which clearly defines your rather tired retorts.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  477. @Jacques Sheete

    Their own poor logic and reasoning ensnares them every time.

    Can you imagine a person appearing before a judge in any courtroom in this country and making the claim that “a long time ago some guys promised me and said ‘xxx’”? They’d be rightfully laughed out by the judge with a claim on that basis.

    Then you have the cherry-picking constitutionalists. You know, the ones who say it’s a “living, breathing document” that changes its terms with the times? I often wonder how these types would respond if their mortgage or auto bank or whomever called them up and said “Hello Mr/Mrs. X, we’re changing the terms of your loan agreement. Thanks, bye.” I’m sure they would just quietly acquiesce, right? Riiight.

    So, which is it, a living, breathing document or a static one? One cannot claim it’s both simultaneously or one or the other without violating logic. But, they do. Haha!

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  478. @Twodees Partain

    I worked in the private sector for an amount of time equal to my public employment, which was with the DoD. I am currently working (Today, actually) in a band as a musician, which takes quite a bit of practice to hone the art of performing. What do you do for a living, asshole?

  479. @Halb

    Awesome work. Disgusting that they blocked it. If I thought I could stomach it, I’d suggest you try to post the info here.

  480. Rich says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I don’t think there is a place called “Nazi land”. Israel is the end game of Zionism. If you were truly a Zionist, you would move to Israel and help the cause. If you don’t, you’re just a poser.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  481. @OEMIKITLOB

    Law and security are goods and services just like hamburgers or automobiles, it’s just that the untrained mind does not recognize this fact.

    Yep.

    I wonder who he thinks enforces property rights now. If he thinks government does it and for a fair price, I got news for him.

  482. @David Baker

    What do you do for a living, asshole?

    If you’d take the time to clean yours, as well as your mouth, you wouldn’t need to ask what an asshole does. 😉

    Now, go take a shower.

    • LOL: Svigor
    • Replies: @David Baker
  483. @David Baker

    All public servants, myself included, swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution …

    Why would you do that? And does anyone actually perform as promised? Did you not read what Lysander Spooner wrote?

    • Replies: @David Baker
  484. @Ahoy

    While I’d like to know what he has to say, I’m not about to sit through 54 minutes of it. Is there a summary available somewhere?

  485. @Fran Taubman

    I personally find you to be worst than a nazi, neo or not. You practice the same things anyway.

  486. @Anonymous

    Those are mere claims. Please provide either solid evidence or decent reasoning.

  487. Hans says:

    NY Fire Commissioners Demand New 9/11 Probe, Citing “Overwhelming Evidence of Pre-Planted Explosives” – http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/ny-fire-commissioners-demand-new-911-probe-citing-overwhelming-evidence-of-pre-planted-explosives/

    “We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force.”
    — Commissioner Christopher Gioia

    https://www.ae911truth.org/news/540-new-york-area-fire-commissioners-make-history-call-for-new-9-11-investigation

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  488. refl says:
    @annamaria

    Your tribe has sold the memory of victims of WWII for gesheft,

    And if any prove were needed, this alone shows that the victim story is seriously flawed, to put it mildly. But what do you expect? He says he is defending his tribe – if I was involved I would beg him not to defend me.

    Oh, hold on. Wasn’t it the Modus operandi of the Zionists to piss of Gentiles to the point that they finally take on the decent people of Jewish heritage? Now I see, why certain characters are plastering this thread with insults…

  489. @OEMIKITLOB

    Bert,

    fwiw, I want to clarify that I am not being hostile or antagonistic to your view though it may seem that way in print. I was once like you and believed that a different form of statism, whatever form it may be, must function “better” than what exists now. However, once I read the books that I linked to I realized in a moment of intellectual honesty (which I value) that I could not refute the sheer “force” of logic presented and I had to simply discard any other theories I believed were valid (which actually turned out to be nothing more than low-grade hypotheses in the end).

    No hard feelings, I hope.

  490. Miro23 says:
    @Parfois1

    But even direct democracy – although an improvement – is still flawed without strong and effective means to prevent the emergence of partisan and dictatorial power.

    The ” strong and effective means to prevent the emergence of partisan and dictatorial power” is really boring. It’s just a group of local citizens telling the political dictatorial types in their meeting to take a hike (and voting them down).

    In fact it’s double boring because all local citizens are obliged to attend these meetings (with positive incentives such as paid time off work, research material, meeting halls and refreshments, and negative incentives such as fines for non-attendance) .

  491. Miro23 says:
    @annamaria

    I would like to agree twice to this.

  492. Corvinus says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    “I see nothing controversial regarding his statement…”

    I wouldn’t expect you to see the folly of his pronouncement.

    “and from where I’m standing the evidence is empirically and incontrovertible.”

    What metrics are involved here? Who insists that this evidence is “incontrovertible”?

    You also realize the problem with empirical evidence is that a person can come to a conclusion that does not fit the data and that same person cannot verify that the conclusion drawn based on the data is correct, right?

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  493. -.1σ FBI goons are hard at work criminalizing Ron Unz and his subversive intellect.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/420379775/FBI-Conspiracy-Theory-Redacted

    They assume you can’t trust anybody unless he’s stupid as an FBI agent.

    • Replies: @Bert
  494. @David Baker

    You accuse everyone of being a liberal. What office do you hold, anyway?

  495. @David Baker

    I try to piss off imbeciles who come online spouting off about “our leaders”. It doesn’t pay much, but i enjoy my work.

  496. @Fran Taubman

    You say stupid stuff and ask stupid questions. You are ignorant.

    Aside from the fact that I’m not the topic of this thread, I already know that. Many commenters, right here at UR keep telling me that, in fact. I do hope expressing yourself in such an intelligent manner helps make you feel better.

    You really don’t need to feel so jealous though.

  497. Corvinus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    “I never said that.”

    The bazinga was implied.

    “For the same reason he’s not!”

    You didn’t even give a reason. You’re just stammering.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  498. @Corvinus

    What folly? The observation that most individuals who should (normative) want to exercise their inherent freedoms willingly give them up to sociopaths and psychopaths that care nothing for them or their state of prosperity or their general well-being, lie to them almost every minute of every day to cover up what they do, rob them and their children and grandchildren blind through mechanisms and schemes that they don’t comprehend because they were (mis)educated in the governments schools with curriculum that was purposely designed to attain this state of affairs and promote a culture of death and destruction and division and debt? That folly?

    Do you listen to the speech and look at the actions of the people that voters knowingly and willingly choose to rule over them? What other empirical evidence does a reasonably intelligent person need that people who want or settle for these types ain’t quite right in the head and there are alot of them?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  499. @MalePaleStale

    i know. i can’t keep a wood fire going without gasoline.

    so there’s stupidity and a lack of interest in the truth on both sides of the holocaust debate.

    not surpising.

    the truth awaits ron. all he needs is a weekend in poland. but ron has no interest in the truth. obviously.

    his job is to corral the goyim, make them think their voice is heard by some, leave them content with doing nothing.

    he’s mossad or might as well be.

  500. Sean says:

    https://reason.com/2019/06/03/kamala-harris-is-a-cop-who-wants-to-be-president/

    Interesting article that touches on the meretricious prosecutorial bullcrap around the charge of ‘trafficking’ under age girls .

  501. GeeBee says:
    @Simon Legree

    Rather than slinging mud at everyone who disagrees with your rather lame ideas, first do the maths. Wood is also a finite resource, and hewing, carting and logging it is no small task. You work out how much timber would have been required. And the manpower to bring it to a state where it might have been used to fire crematoria. Read the extraordinarily thorough and well-researched works by Carlo Mattogno on the construction of the crematoria, supplied by the company of Toft of Erfurt. Then ask yourself if it would have been possible to fly in the face of the manufacturer’s advice and burn wood in them. Study the many aerial photographs taken of the camp and look for great piles of timber waiting to be used for this purpose.

    All of this has been massively researched, and the more it is so, the less credible the ‘official’ so-called ‘holocaust’ narrative becomes. As for your ‘advice’ regarding digging up Treblinka (on what is no more than your totally unfounded statement, as if of fact, that there is much ash buried beneath the surface) the various interested parties have expressly denied permission to do so, and it is only natural to conclude that in doing this they are animated by the wish to avoid ‘difficulties’ that would almost certainly arise from any thorough attempt to excavate the former site. Treblinka, together with the other Aktion Reinhard camps, was built where it was in order to act as a transit camp. This was ahead of the German programme to reconstruct the Russian section of the railway lines, so that eventually it would allow a single train to carry Jewish people all the way from Western Europe into Belarus and beyond (the Russian railway lines were of a different gauge than those in Poland and the rest of Europe). The Russian counter-offensive scuppered that plan of course.

    • Replies: @Simon Legree
  502. Bert says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Amazing. You propose a system wherein property rights protection is in the hands of private enterprises which have investigative capacities and arsenals, and you don’t recognize that those businesses will compete, and over time one will become the dominant force in society, simply because it has the means to enforce its will on the whole population. There you go. From anarchy to big man dictatorship in one easy step.

    The problem that anarchist social theory cannot solve is how to control the enforcers who are necessary to keep a society civil. Demarchy could handle that problem better than the current system does and incomparably better than anarchy could.

    As to your tone, condescension in the company of illogic is laughable.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  503. @Corvinus

    You didn’t even give a reason. You’re just stammering.

    No. I was flatulating. In your direction.

    Now quit trolling. It’s boring and annoying to the rest who see no point in playing.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  504. @Simon Legree

    [ron] … he’s mossad or might as well be.

    Ooooh, you are sooo clever! Now I, too, am suspicious of him. I’ll never believe another word he writes. Wow! Thanks, man!

  505. @Twodees Partain

    True, and centralization was the goal all along.

    Yes, it certainly was. And regarding the parsing, I laugh whenever someone boasts about someone who’s a “constitutional lawyer” implying that they know something about it, when in fact their real job is to discover ways to twist the thing in their clients’ favor.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  506. Hibernian says:
    @Hans

    “NY Fire Commissioners Demand New 9/11 Probe…”

    The ultimate misleading headline. When I first saw this at another site I thought for a moment that it meant former NYC FD Commissioners. Instead its Commissioners from 2 suburbs.

    ” You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board…”

    Language implying broad support from suburban and Upstate Commissioners, when in fact its wishful thinking about a future upsurge in support.

  507. Bert says:
    @Clyde Tolson's Talking Dick

    You might recall James Woods, the actor, noticing a large group of young Arab men on a flight with him shortly before 911. He contacted the FBI about the danger inherent in that situation and was completely blown off by whomever it was he contacted.

    Anyway, I had my own version of that experience in the late 1980’s. I was a professor then and was going to the university early on a Sunday morning to take care of some research animals. There was almost no traffic, so I easily noticed the car ahead of me that contained four Iranian-appearing males when it slowed down in front of a large bank building and a camera was pointed out the passenger side window toward the bank. The car turned into the university campus and I followed it. At the ROTC building it slowed and the camera went to work again. When I got to my office, I called the regional FBI office. I tried to give the license number to the agent who answered, but he didn’t want it because quote “It’s not a crime to photograph buildings.”

    The concept of kakistocracy certainly applies to elected officials, but also to many government agencies, particularly those that are enforcers. Demarchy would solve the first problem, and reduce the scale of the second.

  508. Corvinus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    “Now quit trolling. It’s boring and annoying to the rest who see no point in playing.”

    I don’t troll, I commentate. The trolling comes from someone who cavaliarly advocates that the supermajority of the human race is “f—– stupid”. It’s as if you’ve abandoned race realism and HbD in one fail swoop.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  509. Corvinus says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    The folly that you doubled down on. Your “observation” is nothing more than a personal and emotional statement about individuals who “give up their freedoms to sociopaths and psychopaths” because they have been “miseducated”.

    “Do you listen to the speech and look at the actions of the people that voters knowingly and willingly choose to rule over them?”

    You suffer from an extreme bout of confirmation bias. It afflicts the Coalition of the Fringes of the Left and Right.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  510. @annamaria

    There is only one good thing I have got out of wasting time on too many annamaria Comments and that is to be introduced to the excellent Quillette piece by Matthew Scott, a barrister and clear logical writer. I commend the link to those who, sensibly, baulk at annamaria’s weird obsessions.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  511. @Jacques Sheete

    True. The idea of the constitution being “a living document” is usually espoused by those committed to treating it as a dead letter.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
  512. @OEMIKITLOB

    Of course, any violent crimes committed in the pursuit of drug acquisition, etc. should be prosecuted as simply violent crimes. Coupling charges, as is currently done, is similar to prosecuting some crimes as “hate crimes”.

  513. Anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bert

    Very, very true.

    In an environment where some kind of common government doesn’t exist to enforce the rules for everyone, a bunch of bad fish will join forces, form their own para-governments, and swallow all the little, idealistic, fish.

    And yet, a lot of seemingly smart people believe in the Libertarian fairytale where everyone is treated “fairly”. This is perplexing.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  514. @Simon Legree

    So you’re saying a pile of dead bodies will burn if you throw a lit match on them?

    Curious. I learned something new today.

    I have frequented liberal sites and find them distasteful. Here on Unz, we enjoy vigorous debate. There is no reason to imply that I’m stupid or do not want to know the truth.

    The use of ovens to get rid of 6 million murder victims seems odd and impractical especially in the time of war. Feel free to educate me. Most of my life I believed the main stream narrative of the Holocaust. Education , discussion, and delving into the subject has caused me to question aspects of the story that we have been told all of our lives.

    • Replies: @Simon Legree
  515. annamaria says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Your abusive post only makes me feel that I have been doing something right, since “Wizard of Oz” has been identified as a hasbarist by several commenters on this forum.
    By the way, there has been nothing valuable to extract from your posts.

  516. annamaria says:

    Another “Sir” of “sir” Jimmi Savile caliber, this time in diplomacy: https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/08/01/special-relationship-collapsing-thats-good-thing/

    Sir Darroch made a name for himself as a leading agent of Tony Blair while acting as Ambassador to the European Union from 2007-2011 in an effort to win international support for a regime change operation against Iran, Syria and Libya.

    Blair and the highest levels of the British oligarchy had managed America as its “dumb giant” throughout the entire post-9/11 regime change program on the Middle East. … It is important to remind ourselves that the dodgy WMD dossier had been crafted by the British Foreign Office before being used by neocon hawks such as John Bolton and Cheney as justification to blow up Iraq in 2003. …

    As US Ambassador beginning in January 2016, Sir Darroch was instrumental in vetting Christopher Steele as “absolutely legit”. Steele’s “dodgy dossier” on Trump was used to justify the greatest witch hunt of a sitting President in history.

    A convincing explanation of “sir” Darroch displeasure with Trump: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/07/kim-darroch-the-simple-explanation/

    Darroch shares the neo-con assumption that Trump’s failure to start a war with Iran over the drone take-down was a weird aberration. …

    He rose to prominence within the FCO under New Labour at a time when right wing, pro-Israel foreign policy views and support for the Iraq War were important assets to career progress…

    Most senior ambassadors used to have interests like Chinese literature and Shostakovitch. Darroch’s are squash and sailing.

    Squash indeed.

  517. Svigor says:
    @Rich

    Jewry is chock full of those posers. In fact, most of the more talented Jews wouldn’t be caught dead living in Israel, and you couldn’t drag them out of the diaspora and away from the goyim.

    This is part of Jews’ pathology, their love-hate relationship with Whites. They’re very good at ignoring their own psychological problems, so I doubt most of them know this is a source of their resentment.

  518. Svigor says:
    @Simon Legree

    Hahahaha. Are you Jewish? Because that’s a supremely Jewish comment.

    “There should be evidence, so go find it.”

    The fucking balls on these people.

    “We know the murder happened. We’ve convicted the killer. If you doubt the outcome, you’d better go and try and find the body.”

    Without a hint of irony. There is something wrong with these people (and the handful of defective goys they’ve indoctrinated to the point where you can’t tell them apart).

    P.S., on a more serious note: I challenge that assertion. I say there’s no such evidence, which would be easy to find. I say it doesn’t exist. And I take the fact that Jews have no interest in finding it, despite their decades of mania about this topic, as further evidence that it doesn’t exist.

    Change my mind.

    P.P.S., I take a similar position on the existence of Santa Claus or an Easter Bunny.

    • Agree: GeeBee
  519. Svigor says:
    @Alden

    I don’t believe Soros is anti-Zionist. IIRC he poses as one, for obvious reasons, but I’ve never seen any evidence that he acts as one. He does nothing to hinder Zionists or Zionism. On the contrary, he’s done quite a lot on behalf of the diaspora-pseudoleftist arm of International Zionism. He just doesn’t do anything for the Israeli-ethnonationalist arm.

    He specializes in one form, probably to sell himself as genuine to the goyim (a lot of far left goyim know, in their own clownish way).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  520. @Bert

    All false and based on logic fallacies but your to busy to read and realize it. I can’t help you any further.

  521. Svigor says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Because anarchy’s stupid? Because it’s so fragile adults know not to waste their time?

    Why not just advocate for peace and love while you’re at it?

  522. Svigor says:
    @David Baker

    People love conspiracy theories. It’s human nature.

    The purpose of all the bad conspiracy theories is to give them something to play with besides the good conspiracy theories (i.e., it’s the Jews).

    What’s interesting is watching all the “rebellious” goyim dutifully obeying the Jewish injunction against good conspiracy theories (“antisemitism,” “racism,” etc.). They will happily believe the stupidest shit to avoid the label of thought criminal.They’re a rather conformist pack of rebels. My theory is that Konspiracy Kooks are just looking for a religion, and the traditional stuff doesn’t do it for them.

    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @David Baker
  523. @Corvinus

    Corvinus the obscurantist, you are a funny guy, I gotta admit that much.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  524. Anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    Glad to see that you’re finally dropping this obvious hasbara gerbil from your reading material.

    Your “weird obsessions” have contributed a lot of top notch reason and data to our search for truth. Thank you.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  525. Svigor says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    This is a straw-man and a misrepresentation of what I stated.

    I qualified my statement by saying that in order to function in satisfying the wants and needs of consumers (which is what we are in the bigger picture, producers and consumers, even in politics), the state of being in anarchy must be based on a fully-privatized, property-rights-based society. Otherwise, society would descend into chaos much as it is now.

    LoL. And who’s going to create and maintain that society? The tooth fairy? Collectivists will inevitably seize power over any and all of these libertardian type systems.

  526. Svigor says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    The long strands of thought in Rothbard’s 1,000 page M.E.S. w/P&M can be difficult to follow if one is not accustomed to these things or suffers attention-deficit but the lay-offs is there for the mind that is patient.

    In other words, these sperg kikes need to expend metric megatons of hot air to build their fantasy structures. I’m guessing the idea is to so bore the reader that he finally surrenders; grind their way to victory.

    Yes, it takes many, many pages to thwart common sense and create idiotic scenarios that make their stupid theories work on paper but can never be made to work in reality.

    Humans seem to instinctively know this; they’ve tried and failed to make socialism work many times (and made it work a few), but nobody even bothers trying to make libertardianism work.

    Fortunately, most of the worthwhile )))people((( have given up on libertardianism for the Jewish trap it is, and come over to our thing.

    • Replies: @utu
  527. Anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    I don’t believe Soros is anti-Zionist.

    Of course he isn’t. Does anyone sane really believe that?

  528. @Anonymous

    Have you read the link she gave to Matthew Scott’s well written and reasoned piece that would be in the top 5 per cent for quality on UR?

  529. Svigor says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Because some guy with a gun says so.

    You’re welcome.

  530. Svigor says:
    @Fran Taubman

    There’s no Nazi Land yet, you fucking goon. When there is, Hell Yes, we’ll all move there. Allowing for language barriers – I’d really prefer an Anglophone Naziland.

    Actually, who am I kiddding? I’d move to a Naziland whatever the language, as long as there was an Anglophone minority.

    )))We((( don’t have this obsession with living around (((your kind))), the way you are obsessed with living around us.

    I’d move to Naziland even if it were like West Virginia, as long as I thought it was politically viable (i.e., would be around in 50 years). I’d rather be poor and around )))my kind((( than rich and around yours.

  531. Svigor says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    “I allocate my time according to my estimate of the cost/benefit ratio, which for reading Rothbard is too high.”

    Understood, but, this means you are left to defend your position with incoherent and illogical statements.

    Nonsense. You threw down some book in lieu of making an argument. There’s no attacking or defending going on here.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  532. Svigor says:

    Here’s how libertardian vs. human arguments typically go.

    The human says let’s make a gov’t to (x).

    The libertardian goes into an hour and a half of complex political math on how to do that and conform to libertardian principles, which nobody gives a fuck about (to anywhere near the extent that the libertardian does).

    The human says nah, we’ll just make a gov’t to do (x).

    It’s just a much simpler and more robust solution.

    I mean, most of us have encountered this kind of situation in our daily lives. There’s this one guy who’s got the manual in hand, and he wants to sperg out and spend a lot of extra time doing it the “right” way, when the “right” way is obviously stupid shit ginned up by ass-covering lawyers, and then somebody’s like “nah, fuck that” and fixes the problem in five seconds with a screwdriver.

    It’s like when the manager knows nothing about anything mechanical and wants to call a pro to relight the pilot light on the hot water heater and you’re like “nah” and you just press the button and relight the pilot light.

  533. annamaria says:

    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/08/gabbard-was-right-about-the-usg-and-al-qaida.html

    Tulsi Gabbard is being thrashed today in the Trump Is Always Perfect camp for saying that He is supporting AQ [Al Qaeda]. If she had expanded the accusation to include actions taken in the Obama administration she would have been exactly correct.

    The Saudis, the Israelis and their acolytes among American neocons like the late, sainted John McCain, Sheldon Adelson, Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman, John Bolton and Pom Pom have long succeeded in using the madcap US policy of regime change in Syria as an excuse to fund jihadi groups in Syria. There is a wide variety of these but the most obvious are the al-nusra front and hayat tahrir al-sham, both of which are branches of AQ in Syria.

    Both CIA and the US armed forces have been and still may be supplying and funding these groups. She was right. She simply needed to explain herself better and not try to pin the blame solely on Trump who is largely an “absentee landlord” with regard to policy in the ME. He has no policy in the ME. Adelson, Natanyahu and Lindsey Graham have policy in the ME, but not Trump. p l

    This is an excellent review of the zionized US policies in the Middle East, written by Colonel W. Patrick Lang, one of the best analytical minds and true patriot.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  534. Svigor says:

    I mean, imagine the Founding of America if the Founders were all libertardian spergs.

    We’d still be a colony.

    Fortunately*, the Founders just started shooting people.

    *Debatable, but you get my point.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  535. annamaria says:
    @annamaria

    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/08/gabbard-was-right-about-the-usg-and-al-qaida.html
    Comment section (“The Twisted Genius”)

    She [Tulsi Gabbard] is also getting a ration of crap from the left for refusing to declare Assad a war criminal and demanding a regime change in Damascus.
    She voted against Obama policy in Syria several times so I consider her actions to be her words. I wish she would emphasize that.
    While always supportive of Israel’s right to exist, her lack of support for the Saudis, regime change in Syria or war in Iran are marking her as an enemy of the Israeli lobby and the Netanyahu government.
    All the never-Trumpers say she’s a Putin puppet because of her stance on Syria and condemnation of our forever wars in the ME. It won’t help her politically, but I’m glad she’s sticking to her guns. The political class are all scum. Piss on the lot of them. /blockquote>

  536. Svigor says:

    P.S., I went right from conservative to ethnopatriot, so I’m nowhere near an expert on precisely why libertardianism sucks from a libertardian perspective. I knew they sucked because they were so very, very wrong on human nature, race, the Jews, nationalism, society, and the like, so I was never tempted to delve into their ideology.

    If you want to see libertardianism destroyed by former libertardians who really know all the arguments inside and out, you need to listen to The Daily Shoah (now TDS) podcast @ therightstuff.biz ; those guys are all former libertardians and current ethnopatriots who were libertardians for a long time and know all the lingo and routinely tear libertardianism to shreds. Mike Enoch in particular can sit there for hours and deconstruct libertardianism. But the TL;DR is that libertardianism is individualistic and individualists lose to collectivists because collectivists have tumbled to the amazing hack of teaming up to achieve their goals.

  537. @annamaria

    Only someone extremely careless or hopelessly dimwitted could think I was a hasbarist. I am sorry that you think there are as many as “several” of you on UR threads.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  538. utu says:
    @Svigor

    Fortunately, most of the worthwhile )))people((( have given up on libertardianism for the Jewish trap it is, and come over to our thing.

    No question that “libertardianism” is a Jewish trap that also serves oligarchy whether Jewish or not.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  539. @Jacques Sheete

    An asshole dispenses poop. Someone who dispenses the same material is described as such. This clown (tRodees Partain) is a standard liberal.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  540. @Svigor

    The profusion of conspiracy theories arise from the lack of pertinent facts. I’ll reference Amelia Earhart’s disappearance as an example. Since there’s no plane or crew to examine or question, and her notoriety was a sure fire means to generate news and other commercial material, a flood of theories erupted around the world describing everything from a secret military spy mission to her landing the plane on a distant island then dying afterward. The human brain is configured to compile and analyze data. When key components of data are not available, the mind can conjecture all kinds of theories. Just figure that people are mindful of the attention they’ll get from projecting their version of events. This Epstein baloney has prompted many people to engage in idle speculation. Some have even profited from their theories.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  541. @Svigor

    ‘Rebellious Goyim”, eh? Please explain why hundreds of thousands of Macedonians became rebellious against Soros? Jews have been kicked out of every country in which they’ve settled in significant numbers. Your “rebellious goyim” found some common reason to send that tribe packing. (See France and Russia)

    • Replies: @Svigor
  542. Corvinus says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    “Corvinus the obscurantist, you are a funny guy, I gotta admit that much.”

    The only deliberate effort to obscure the truth comes from your end, friend.

    • Replies: @David Baker
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  543. @Corvinus

    Would you at least confirm or deny whether Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” is taught at your Yeshivas?

    • LOL: OEMIKITLOB
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  544. Al Liguori says: • Website

    July 30, 2019, Alan Dershowitz defends his 1997 column claiming ‘statutory rape is an outdated concept’ http://www.jta.org/2019/07/30/united-states/alan-dershowitz-defends-his-1997-column-claiming-statutory-rape-is-an-outdated-concept

    May 7, 1997, Statutory Rape is an Outdated Concept by Alan M. Dershowitz, op-ed in the Los Angeles Times http://judaism.is/pedophilia-and-sodomy.html#outdatedconcept

  545. @Jacques Sheete

    “Why would you do that”? Because that oath is requited for employment in many government positions. You’re bound by your oath (Except for Jews, who hedge their bet with the Kol Nidre..) Should you be convicted of violating the same, penalties may range from dismissal to jail time.

  546. @Al Liguori

    Statutory “Anti-Semitism” is also an outdated concept, Mr. Dershowitz.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  547. Corvinus says:
    @David Baker

    “Would you at least confirm or deny whether Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” is taught at your Yeshivas?”

    Except I’m not Jewish, and I’m not a radical. Try again, dear.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  548. Corvinus says:
    @Sean McBride

    It is ironic that Trump himself is accused, with solid evidence, that he is part of a conspiracy to ensure his election and remake the Middle East in the interest of making a profit for his empire.

  549. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    I agree there is a difference between a willing teenage girl and an innocent child.

    The rabbis make no such distinction.

    Your Chabad teaches when a Jewish man rapes a gentile woman, it is a capital offense, and THE VICTIM (if she is above the age of 3) IS THE ONE TO BE EXECUTED.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/960660/jewish/Issurei-Biah-Chapter-Twelve.htm

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  550. @Fran Taubman

    It is Shabbat, so it is Quote Crazy Fran Day:
    #6 give a flying fuck
    #7 Stick to the fucking script.
    #24 Are you fucking sadistic or just stupid.
    http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/expose-lord-falconer-is-caught-reading-an-hasbara-script-on-bbc-live/

    [MORE]

    #25 get the fuck out
    http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/margaret-hodge-iran-and-jazz/

    #389 get the fuck out
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-to-start-an-unnecessary-war/

    #115 Get a fucking life.
    http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-biblical-celebrities-and-jewish-symbolism/

    #18 horseshit
    http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/expose-lord-falconer-is-caught-reading-an-hasbara-script-on-bbc-live/

    # 1293 Dear Ron… BS.
    # 1299 Another libel is the Black plaque [sic]… You can get sued for libel. I will do all I can to shut your hate speech website down, that is all it is. There is a big push to shut down hate speech on the internet.
    # 1308 tin horn
    # 1320 scum bag… fraud… YOUR BULLSHIT.
    #1463 complete and utter bullshit
    #1464 racist
    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-secrets-of-military-intelligence/

    #72 “Why don’t you show up at the border fence sometime soon maybe we can end your misery?”
    #210 “…my behavior has been more civil then most here.”
    #216 “The shooter has responsibility but so does the Jihadist resister. It is 50 /50”
    As if children, including children sniped in the womb, are “resisters” who have “50% responsibility.
    #226 “My point being don’t blame the Israelis for killing before being killed.”
    #242 “send children into harms way, so that [snipers will kill them]”
    #273 “send children into harms way. so that [snipers will kill them]”
    #275 “Are you the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz?”
    #277 “That was an errant Hamas rocket that killed the pregnant mother and child. I think the guy that posted them gets his winnie high”. As if the two pictured children with bullet holes were blown up by rockets?
    #363 “No one truth is correct…”
    #583 “only a total war with winner take all will solve the problem.”
    #598 “There are probably some wanted Jihadis on this site…I am not understanding the time zone stuff.”
    #637 “You are taking Judaism out of context, from the bronze age. “
    #709 “All religions are the same, working towards the same goals.”
    #714 “Nothin absolutely nothing bad in Judaism or Jews.”
    $738 “anti-semites, …And these fuckers think they actually make sense.”
    #826 “Ignorant Al,… …who knows absolutely about nothing”
    #749 “We can agree to disagree with out disparaging one another.” Hyppocrisy?
    #769 “Jew hater…irrational Jew hater”
    $770 “Lets stick to mainstream shit.”
    #782 “You poor poor gentile whites just lying around in your pee pee, cause you cannot stand up to those big bad Jews.”
    #791 “Yo everyone on this site, check this dude out. Yeah baby. STD’s from a bris.”
    #841 “you do not have the intellectual ability to do. Thank Allah there are maybe 1000 people as dumb as a door knob like you”
    #852 “I would never speak about another religions holy books in that manner.”
    #875 Never? “demented Catholic/Christian, …A classic Jew hater”
    #885 “people “outside” the normal psychological lines… “dumb goyim” is a valid score… mental deficient people, … obsessive beyond reason.… dumb goyim … wackos.”
    #894 “definition of sicko… irrational … incoherent, off the wall … cannot live a normal life without this lust for hatred and destruction”
    #916 “Maybe [what the Talmud says about Jesus] is true, since you are a devoted follower.”
    #919 “Don’t like Jesus lying in boiling feces, stop bothering me. I am almost sure he is.
    Looking forward to you boiling with extra hot sauce.”
    #930 “If you follow this thread you are at the end of a long assault on Jews and Judaism with disgusting stereotypes, name calling and accusations that are beyond ….. verging on harassment.”
    #940 “however stupid, and impenetrable your hatred is.
    It is sole based on ignorance.”
    #940 “YOU ARE A RACIST”
    #944 “out of context”
    #947 “however stupid, and impenetrable your hatred is.
    It is sole based on ignorance.”
    #956 “antisemite”
    #960 “antisemitism… Look I am not here to defend every Jew or every Israeli, how pointless. Stop fucking with the morality of most Jews.”
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/

  551. @Svigor

    1) Man does not live in isolation in the Garden of Eden where all his wants and needs are met without production.

    2) Since man possesses self-ownership independent of other men he therefore possesses a rightful claim to all property he has justly acquired or produced.

    3) In order for the peaceful organizing of men to occur and for their society to create wealth and flourish in a world of scarce resources amidst the infinite wants and needs of men these property-rights may not be unjustly aggressed against.

    4) Since the state (i.e. a group claiming a territorial monopoly on the use of violence) is by its very nature a tool of violence, having no just means of acquiring property, and, therefore only and ever a consumer of wealth, the state cannot be the organizing principle of a peaceful and just society and the state cannot be allowed to exist if property-rights are to be protected.

    5) Therefore, since it is impossible to resolve conflicts over scarce resources without private property, the only way a peaceful and just society of producers and consumers can exist and create wealth and flourish meeting the infinite wants and needs of producers and consumers is in a fully-privatized, property-rights-based society where each man’s property can be protected.

    I believe that’s a fair summary of ~2,000 pages worth of economic and political theory. Satisfied?

    • Replies: @Svigor
  552. @annamaria

    By the way, there has been nothing valuable to extract from your posts.

    Absolutely correct. There is, on the other hand, consistently fine material in all of your comments. Keep ’em coming.

  553. @David Baker

    To you, anyone who sees through your silly bullshit is a liberal. Your little act got stale around here at about the time your post count rose to 5. You’re a squealing little public tit addict trying to pass yourself off as a conservatard.

    • Replies: @David Baker
  554. @Anonymous

    In an environment where some kind of common government doesn’t exist to enforce the rules for everyone,

    For everyone? When did that ever apply? Sounds about as false as it is idealistic. In fact, governments exist to grant special favors to those who control them, and historically, only a small percentage of the mega rich have the interest, the resources, the leisure and the psychopathology necessary to impose their warped rules on the rest of us, who have little or none of the above.

    … a bunch of bad fish will join forces, form their own para-governments, and swallow all the little, idealistic, fish.

    This is exactly what happens repeatedly. Yet, for some odd reason folks still cling to the concept of a government of messiahs. I do not see it happening.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  555. @Svigor

    We’d still be a colony.

    Ahem. Please look around and tell me that “we’re” not a colony.
    More precisely, it’s a wage, tax and debt slavery penal colony run by perverts, sadists, and pleonectic psychopaths.

    Enjoy. And lemmee know when you concoct a gubbermint to change it for the better.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  556. @Corvinus

    the supermajority of the human race is “f—– stupid”

    AGREE

  557. @Svigor

    P.P.S., I take a similar position on the existence of Santa Claus or an Easter Bunny.

    SS guards dressed as Easter Bunny with Jewish child. Treblinka, March, 1944.

  558. @Jacques Sheete

    Jacques,

    His example is just poor logic and reasoning.

    In order for the state to help some it must harm others. This is the “enforcing the rules” part.

    Now, for one to say that this is just and that this state of affairs should not be changed because then those the state helped would be harmed is like saying that a game where people were allowed to hit people on the head would be harmed if the practice were no longer allowed. Do we allow the hitting to continue then so the hitters are not harmed?

    What kind of ethic is that? The question demands a serious answer that is clear, cogent and coherent, not some empty-headed nonsense.

    The second part he/she has no proof of; it is an assumption with no basis in fact. Prove it, I say.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  559. @GeeBee

    jesus f—ing christ!

    THE POINT IS THE HUMAN BODY IS FLAMMABLE.

    AFTER A CERTAIN T IS REACHED IT BURNS ON ITS OWN UNTIL IT’S NOTHING BUT ASH AND BONE!

    DUH!

    goyim like you deserve to be fooled.

  560. @Svigor

    jewish? what a dumbass!

    i’m 100% nw european.

  561. @MalePaleStale

    So you’re saying a pile of dead bodies will burn if you throw a lit match on them?

    only a genuinely dumb person would intentionally misrepresent what i said.

    the human body will burn on its own after a certain T until it’s nothing but ash and bone. how can you not know this? a pile burns just like a pile of wood provided the T stays high enough to get over the reaction barrier.

    the total time it took unz to research and write his article was at least 100x the time it would take him to take cores of treblinka himself, and he can pay someone to do it for him.

    there’s no reason to argue endlessly like a bunch of old women.

    what’s in the cores at treblinka is the final solution to the question of the final solution.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @MalePaleStale
  562. Svigor says:
    @utu

    Oh indeed; its a great psyop for whoever’s in power.

  563. Svigor says:
    @David Baker

    Epstein glows in the dark, big time. His BFF/madam is a Jewess oligarch glow in the dark Mossad bitch (Ghislaine Maxwell), daughter of a Jewish oligarch glow in the dark Mossad scumbag (Robert Maxwell). He was handed a financial empire in his youth because, despite being a college dropout, he was born with Mossad/Zionist Deep State connections (total Cohencidence = Epstein’s father was only named a couple weeks ago in the press. We have zero info on his parents. Process that one for a while).

    Check my pedigree; I’ve been shitting all over conspiracy theories my entire tenure here.

    Epstein glows in the dark.

  564. Svigor says:
    @David Baker

    You may need remedial reading comprehension work; I was clearly referring to Konspiracy Kooks, juxtaposing their pose of rebellion with their conformist revealed preferences.

  565. Svigor says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    There is no “man.” That’s one of libertardian’s false premises; this “mankind” thing.

    4) Since the state (i.e. a group claiming a territorial monopoly on the use of violence) is by its very nature a tool of violence, having no just means of acquiring property, and, therefore only and ever a consumer of wealth, the state cannot be the organizing principle of a peaceful and just society and the state cannot be allowed to exist if property-rights are to be protected.

    Nobody cares if it’s an “organizing principle” or not. It works and people use it. It’s the most parsimonious way to get certain things done. That’s simply a feature of some very large population groups; might as well accept it.

    1) Man does not live in isolation in the Garden of Eden where all his wants and needs are met without production.

    2) Since man possesses self-ownership independent of other men he therefore possesses a rightful claim to all property he has justly acquired or produced.

    3) In order for the peaceful organizing of men to occur and for their society to create wealth and flourish in a world of scarce resources amidst the infinite wants and needs of men these property-rights may not be unjustly aggressed against.

    You waited until 3 to even obliquely acknowledge that humans are social animals. It’s #1. Far more important than self-ownership or rightful claims to property or production.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  566. Svigor says:

    5) Therefore, since it is impossible to resolve conflicts over scarce resources without private property, the only way a peaceful and just society of producers and consumers can exist and create wealth and flourish meeting the infinite wants and needs of producers and consumers is in a fully-privatized, property-rights-based society where each man’s property can be protected.

    No, looks like you skipped some math there. It doesn’t follow from “we need private property” that “bla bla can only exist in a fully-privatized etc bla bla bla.” That is obviously bullshit.

    Ever heard of anarcho-fascism? I’ve only read the back of the cereal box, but it seems far more natural than libertardianism.

  567. Svigor says:

    I mean, let’s back up for a sec.

    Does the oligarchy oppress libertardians? Deplatform them? Fucking mention them at all?

    No.

    Ergo, libertardians are, at best, no threat whatsoever to the regime.

    Does the oligarchy oppress white ethnopatriots? Deplatform them? Obsess over them?

    DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!

    Gee, I wonder which is the real threat to the regime.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Anonymous
  568. GeeBee says:
    @Simon Legree

    ‘goyim like you deserve to be fooled’

    That remark is a real giveaway. You are Jewish and you are impervious to reason. At least we now know you for what you are.

  569. @Svigor

    Thank you for proving what I already suspected: you have no intelligent response.

    It may serve you better to read more than cereal boxes in the future.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  570. @OEMIKITLOB

    His example is just poor logic and reasoning.

    You are much nicer than I am. I see neither logic nor anything remotely resembling reasoning.

    The second part he/she has no proof of; it is an assumption with no basis in fact.

    None whatsoever. It’s fantasyville all the way. Improperly weaned, I say.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  571. @Jacques Sheete

    “You are much nicer than I am.”

    You are far too kind. Haha!

    • LOL: Jacques Sheete
  572. @Svigor

    Nobody cares if it’s an “organizing principle” or not.

    He was trying to explain it, not arguing whether anyone cares or not.

    It works and people use it.

    Well, of course it “works,” but the point (which you again missed) is that it works for some people and against many others.

    You are another one who should do more reading and thinking than commenting.

    • Agree: OEMIKITLOB
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  573. @Svigor

    I’ve only read the back of the cereal box …

    That could be your problem; poor nutrition. However I suppose cereal boxes as a source of enlightenment are prefereable to the boob tube.

  574. @OEMIKITLOB

    It may serve you better to read more than cereal boxes in the future.

    I think he should just stick to looking at the brightly colored pictures on them.

  575. @Svigor

    Does the oligarchy oppress libertardians? Deplatform them? Fucking mention them at all?
    No.
    Ergo, libertardians are, at best, no threat whatsoever to the regime.

    You got that completely backwards. I’ll try to keep this simple for you.

    The threat comes first, then the rest follows although the oligarchy oppresses nearly everyone; the big fault in your reasoning is that it doesn’t single out libertarians yet. Think of it this way, “Does the oligarchy oppress Svigor? Deplatform it? Fucking mention it at all?”

    The answer is “no” because Svigor is no threat to the oligarchy. Get it now?

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  576. I wonder if all the little statists here will ever see this on the back of a cereal box…

    A state? What is that? …

    State is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it lies; and this lie slips from its mouth: “I, the state, am the people.”

    It is a lie!

    But the state lies in all the tongues of good and evil; and whatever it says it lies; and whatever it has it has stolen.

    Everything in it is false; it bites with stolen teeth, and bites often. It is false down to its bowels.

    One’s much more likely to see that ugly mug of McStain’s on a cereal box, I think. Is G-wd dead, or did he just morph into a new, “improved” idol?

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  577. Stasi says:

    It’s worth bearing in mind the procedures FBI uses to repress unauthorized political advocacy