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Around 35 years ago, I was sitting in my college dorm-room closely reading the New York Times as I did each and every morning when I noticed an astonishing article about the controversial new Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir.

Back in those long-gone days, the Gray Lady was strictly a black-and-white print publication, lacking the large color photographs of rap stars and long stories about dieting techniques that fill so much of today’s news coverage, and it also seemed to have a far harder edge in its Middle East reporting. A year or so earlier, Shamir’s predecessor Menacham Begin had allowed his Defense Minister Ariel Sharon to talk him into invading Lebanon and besieging Beirut, and the subsequent massacre of Palestinian women and children in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps had outraged the world and angered America’s government. This eventually led to Begin’s resignation, with Shamir, his Foreign Minister, taking his place.

Prior to his surprising 1977 election victory, Begin had spent decades in the political wilderness as an unacceptable right-winger, and Shamir had an even more extreme background, with the American mainstream media freely reporting his long involvement in all sorts of high-profile assassinations and terrorist attacks during the 1940s, painting him as a very bad man indeed.

Given Shamir’s notorious activities, few revelations would have shocked me, but this one did. Apparently, during the late 1930s, Shamir and his small Zionist faction had become great admirers of the Italian Fascists and German Nazis, and after World War II broke out, they had made repeated attempts to contact Mussolini and the German leadership in 1940 and 1941, hoping to enlist in the Axis Powers as their Palestine affiliate, and undertake a campaign of attacks and espionage against the local British forces, then share in the political booty after Hitler’s inevitable triumph.

Now the Times clearly viewed Shamir in a very negative light, but it seemed extremely unlikely to me that they would have published such a remarkable story without being absolutely sure of their facts. Among other things, there were long excerpts from the official letters sent to Mussolini ferociously denouncing the “decadent” democratic systems of Britain and France that he was opposing, and assuring Il Duce that such ridiculous political notions would have no future place in the totalitarian Jewish client state they hoped to establish under his auspices in Palestine.

As it happens, both Germany and Italy were preoccupied with larger geopolitical issues at the time, and given the small size of Shamir’s Zionist faction, not much seems to have ever come of those efforts. But the idea of the sitting Prime Minister of the Jewish State having spent his early wartime years as an unrequited Nazi ally was certainly something that sticks in one’s mind, not quite conforming to the traditional narrative of that era which I had always accepted.

Most remarkably, the revelation of Shamir’s pro-Axis past seems to have had only a relatively minor impact upon his political standing within Israeli society. I would think that any American political figure found to have supported a military alliance with Nazi Germany during the Second World War would have had a very difficult time surviving the resulting political scandal, and the same would surely be true for politicians in Britain, France, or most other western nations. But although there was certainly some embarrassment in the Israeli press, especially after the shocking story reached the international headlines, apparently most Israelis took the whole matter in stride, and Shamir stayed in office for another year, then later served a second, much longer term as Prime Minister during 1986-1992. The Jews of Israel apparently regarded Nazi Germany quite differently than did most Americans, let alone most American Jews.

 

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Around that same time, a second intriguing example of this quite different Israeli perspective towards the Nazis also came to my attention. In 1983, Amoz Oz, often described as Israel’s greatest novelist, had published In the Land of Israel to glowing reviews. This book was a collection of lengthy interviews with various representative figures in Israeli society, both moderate and extreme, as well as some coverage of the Palestinians who also lived among them.

Of these ideological profiles, one of the shortest but most widely discussed was that of an especially hard-line political figure, unnamed but almost universally believed to be Ariel Sharon, a conclusion certainly supported by the personal details and physical description provided. Near the very beginning, that figure mentioned that people of his ideological ilk had recently been denounced as “Judeo-Nazis” by a prominent liberal Israeli academic, but rather than reject that label, he fully welcomed it. So the subject generally became known in public discussions as the “Judeo-Nazi.”

That he described himself in such terms was hardly an exaggeration, since he rather gleefully advocated the slaughter of millions of Israel’s enemies, and the vast expansion of Israeli territory by conquest of neighboring lands and expulsion of their populations, along with the free use of nuclear weapons if they or anyone else too strongly resisted such efforts. In his bold opinion, the Israelis and Jews in general were just too soft and meek, and needed to regain their place in the world by once again becoming a conquering people, probably hated but definitely feared. To him, the large recent massacre of Palestinian women and children at Sabra and Shatila was of no consequence whatsoever, and the most unfortunate aspect of the incident was that the killers had been Israel’s Christian Phalangist allies rather than Israeli soldiers themselves.

Now rhetorical excess is quite common among politicians and a shroud of pledged anonymity will obviously loosen many tongues. But can anyone imagine an American or other Western public figure talking in such terms, let alone someone who moves in higher political circles? These days, Donald Trump sometimes Tweets out a crude misspelled insult at 2am, and the American media is aghast in horror. But given that his administration leaks like a sieve, if he routinely boasted to his confidants about possibly slaughtering millions, we surely would have heard about it. For that matter, there seems not the slightest evidence that the original German Nazis ever spoke in such ways privately, let alone while a journalist was carefully taking notes. But the “Judeo-Nazis” of Israel are another story.

As near as I can recall, the last even slightly prominent figure in American public life who declared himself a “Nazi” was George Lincoln Rockwell during the 1960s, and he was much more of a political performance artist than an actual political leader. Even as marginalized a figure as David Duke has always hotly denied such an accusation. But apparently politics in Israel is played by different rules.

In any event, Sharon’s purported utterances seem to have had little negative impact upon his subsequent political career, and after spending some time in the political wilderness after the Lebanon disaster, he eventually served five years as Prime Minister during 2001-2006, although by that later date his views were regularly denounced as too soft and compromising due to the steady rightward drift of the Israeli political spectrum.

 

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Over the years I’ve occasionally made half-hearted attempts to locate the Times article about Shamir that had long stuck in my memory, but have had no success, either because it was removed from the Times archives or more likely because my mediocre search skills proved inadequate. But I’m almost certain that the piece had been prompted by the 1983 publication of Zionism in the Age of the Dictators by Lenni Brenner, an anti-Zionist of the Trotskyite persuasion and Jewish origins. I only very recently discovered that book, which really tells an extremely interesting story.

Brenner, born in 1937, has spent his entire life as an unreconstructed hard-core leftist, with his enthusiasms ranging from Marxist revolution to the Black Panthers, and he is obviously a captive of his views and his ideology. At times, this background impairs the flow of his text, and the periodic allusions to “proletarian,” “bourgeoisie,” and “capitalist classes” sometimes grow a little wearisome, as does his unthinking acceptance of all the shared beliefs common to his political circle. But surely only someone with that sort of fervent ideological commitment would have been willing to devote so much time and effort to investigating that controversial subject and ignoring the endless denunciations that resulted, which even included physical assaults by Zionist partisans.

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In any event, his documentation seems completely airtight, and some years after the original appearance of his book, he published a companion volume entitled 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis, which simply provides English translations of all the raw evidence behind his analytical framework, allowing interested parties to read the material and draw their own conclusions.

Among other things, Brenner provides considerable evidence that the larger and somewhat more mainstream right-wing Zionist faction later led by Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin was almost invariably regarded as a Fascist movement during the 1930s, even apart from its warm admiration for Mussolini’s Italian regime. This was hardly such a dark secret in that period given that its main Palestine newspaper carried a regular column by a top ideological leader entitled “Diary of a Fascist.” During one of the major international Zionist conferences, factional leader Vladimir Zabotinsky entered the hall with his brown-shirted followers in full military formation, leading the chair to ban the wearing of uniforms in order to avoid a riot, and his faction was soon defeated politically and eventually expelled from the Zionist umbrella organization. This major setback was largely due to the widespread hostility the group had aroused after two of its members were arrested by British police for the recent assassination of Chaim Arlosoroff, one of the highest-ranking Zionist officials based in Palestine.

Indeed, the inclination of the more right-wing Zionist factions toward assassination, terrorism, and other forms of essentially criminal behavior was really quite remarkable. For example, in 1943 Shamir had arranged the assassination of his factional rival, a year after the two men had escaped together from imprisonment for a bank robbery in which bystanders had been killed, and he claimed he had acted to avert the planned assassination of David Ben-Gurion, the top Zionist leader and Israel’s future founding-premier. Shamir and his faction certainly continued this sort of behavior into the 1940s, successfully assassinating Lord Moyne, the British Minister for the Middle East, and Count Folke Bernadotte, the UN Peace Negotiator, though they failed in their other attempts to kill American President Harry Truman and British Foreign Minister Ernest Bevin, and their plans to assassinate Winston Churchill apparently never moved past the discussion stage. His group also pioneered the use of terrorist car-bombs and other explosive attacks against innocent civilian targets, all long before any Arabs or Muslims had ever thought of using similar tactics; and Begin’s larger and more “moderate” Zionist faction did much the same. Given that background, it was hardly surprising that Shamir later served as director of assassinations at the Israeli Mossad during 1955-1965, so if the Mossad did indeed play a major role in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, he was very likely involved.

 

The cover of the 2014 paperback edition of Brenner’s book displays the commemorative medal struck by Nazi Germany to mark its Zionist alliance, with a Star-of-David on the front face and a Swastika on the obverse. But oddly enough, this symbolic medallion actually had absolutely no connection with the unsuccessful attempts by Shamir’s small faction to arrange a Nazi military alliance during World War II.

Although the Germans paid little attention to the entreaties of that minor organization, the far larger and more influential mainstream Zionist movement of Chaim Weizmann and David Ben-Gurion was something else entirely. And during most of the 1930s, these other Zionists had formed an important economic partnership with Nazi Germany, based upon an obvious commonality of interests. After all, Hitler regarded Germany’s one percent Jewish population as a disruptive and potentially dangerous element which he wanted gone, and the Middle East seemed as good a destination for them as any other. Meanwhile, the Zionists had very similar objectives, and the creation of their new national homeland in Palestine obviously required both Jewish immigrants and Jewish financial investment.

After Hitler had been named Chancellor in 1933, outraged Jews worldwide had quickly launched an economic boycott, hoping to bring Germany to its knees, with London’s Daily Express famously running the banner headline “Judea Declares War on Germany.” Jewish political and economic influence, then just like now, was very considerable, and in the depths of the Great Depression, impoverished Germany needed to export or die, so a large scale boycott in major German markets posed a potentially serious threat. But this exact situation provided Zionist groups with an excellent opportunity to offer the Germans a means of breaking that trade embargo, and they demanded favorable terms for the export of high-quality German manufactured goods to Palestine, together with accompanying German Jews. Once word of this major Ha’avara or “Transfer Agreement” with the Nazis came out at a 1933 Zionist Convention, many Jews and Zionists were outraged, and it led to various splits and controversies. But the economic deal was too good to resist, and it went forward and quickly grew.

The importance of the Nazi-Zionist pact for Israel’s establishment is difficult to overstate. According to a 1974 analysis in Jewish Frontier cited by Brenner, between 1933 and 1939 over 60% of all the investment in Jewish Palestine came from Nazi Germany. The worldwide impoverishment of the Great Depression had drastically reduced ongoing Jewish financial support from all other sources, and Brenner reasonably suggests that without Hitler’s financial backing, the nascent Jewish colony, so tiny and fragile, might easily have shriveled up and died during that difficult period.

Such a conclusion leads to fascinating hypotheticals. When I first stumbled across references to the Ha’avara Agreement on websites here and there, one of the commenters mentioning the issue half-jokingly suggested that if Hitler had won the war, statues would surely have been built to him throughout Israel and he would today be recognized by Jews everywhere as the heroic Gentile leader who had played the central role in reestablishing a national homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine after almost 2000 years of bitter exile.

This sort of astonishing counter-factual possibility is not nearly as totally absurd as it might sound to our present-day ears. We must recognize that our historical understanding of reality is shaped by the media, and media organs are controlled by the winners of major wars and their allies, with inconvenient details often excluded to avoid confusing the public. It is undeniably true that in his 1924 book Mein Kampf, Hitler had written all sorts of hostile and nasty things about Jews, especially those who were recent immigrants from Eastern Europe, but when I read the book back in high school, I was a little surprised to discover that these anti-Jewish sentiments hardly seemed central to his text. Furthermore, just a couple of years earlier, a vastly more prominent public figure such as British Minister Winston Churchill had published sentiments nearly as hostile and nasty, focusing on the monstrous crimes being committed by Bolshevik Jews. In Albert Lindemann’s Esau’s Tears, I was surprised to discover that the author of the famous Balfour Declaration, the foundation of the Zionist project, was apparently also quite hostile to Jews, with an element of his motivation probably being his desire to exclude them from Britain.

Once Hitler consolidated power in Germany, he quickly outlawed all other political organizations for the German people, with only the Nazi Party and Nazi political symbols being legally permitted. But a special exception was made for German Jews, and Germany’s local Zionist Party was accorded complete legal status, with Zionist marches, Zionist uniforms, and Zionist flags all fully permitted. Under Hitler, there was strict censorship of all German publications, but the weekly Zionist newspaper was freely sold at all newsstands and street corners. The clear notion seemed to be that a German National Socialist Party was the proper political home for the country’s 99% German majority, while Zionist National Socialism would fill the same role for the tiny Jewish minority.

In 1934, Zionist leaders invited an important SS official to spend six months visiting the Jewish settlement in Palestine, and upon his return, his very favorable impressions of the growing Zionist enterprise were published as a massive 12-part-series in Joseph Goebbel’s Der Angriff, the flagship media organ of the Nazi Party, bearing the descriptive title “A Nazi Goes to Palestine.” In his very angry 1920 critique of Jewish Bolshevik activity, Churchill had argued that Zionism was locked in a fierce battle with Bolshevism for the soul of European Jewry, and only its victory might ensure amicable future relations between Jew and Gentile. Based on available evidence, Hitler and many of the other Nazi leaders seemed to have reached a somewhat similar conclusion by the mid-1930s.

During that era extremely harsh sentiments regarding Diaspora Jewry were sometimes found in rather surprising quarters. After the controversy surrounding Shamir’s Nazi ties erupted into the headlines, Brenner’s material became the grist for an important article by Edward Mortimer, the longtime Middle East expert at the august Times of London, and the 2014 edition of the book includes some choice extracts from Mortimer’s February 11, 1984 Times piece:

Who told a Berlin audience in March 1912 that “each country can absorb only a limited number of Jews, if she doesn’t want disorders in her stomach. Germany already has too many Jews”?

No, not Adolf Hitler but Chaim Weizmann, later president of the World Zionist Organization and later still the first president of the state of Israel.

And where might you find the following assertion, originally composed in 1917 but republished as late as 1936: “The Jew is a caricature of a normal, natural human being, both physically and spiritually. As an individual in society he revolts and throws off the harness of social obligation, knows no order nor discipline”?

Not in Der Sturmer but in the organ of the Zionist youth organization, Hashomer Hatzair.

As the above quoted statement reveals, Zionism itself encouraged and exploited self-hatred in the Diaspora. It started from the assumption that anti-Semitism was inevitable and even in a sense justified so long as Jews were outside the land of Israel.

It is true that only an extreme lunatic fringe of Zionism went so far as to offer to join the war on Germany’s side in 1941, in the hope of establishing “the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, and bound by a treaty with the German Reich.” Unfortunately this was the group which the present Prime Minister of Israel chose to join.

The very uncomfortable truth is that the harsh characterizations of Diaspora Jewry found in the pages of Mein Kampf were not all that different from what was voiced by Zionism’s founding fathers and its subsequent leaders, so the cooperation of those two ideological movements was not really so totally surprising.

However, uncomfortable truths do remain uncomfortable. Mortimer had spent nineteen years at the Times, the last dozen of them as the foreign specialist and leader-writer on Middle Eastern affairs. But the year after he wrote that article including those controversial quotations, his career at that newspaper ended, leading to an unusual gap in his employment history, and that development may or may not be purely coincidental.

Also quite ironic was the role of Adolf Eichmann, whose name today probably ranks as one of the most famous half-dozen Nazis in history, due to his postwar 1960 kidnapping by Israeli agents, followed by his public show-trial and execution as a war-criminal. As it happens, Eichmann had been a central Nazi figure in the Zionist alliance, even studying Hebrew and apparently becoming something of a philo-Semite during the years of his close collaboration with top Zionist leaders.

Brenner is a captive of his ideology and his beliefs, accepting without question the historical narrative with which he was raised. He seems to find nothing so strange about Eichmann being a philo-Semitic partner of the Jewish Zionists during the late 1930s and then suddenly being transformed into a mass-murderer of the European Jews in the early 1940s, willingly committing the monstrous crimes for which the Israelis later justly put him to death.

This is certainly possible, but I really wonder. A more cynical observer might find it a very odd coincidence that the first prominent Nazi the Israelis made such an effort to track down and kill had been their closest former political ally and collaborator. After Germany’s defeat, Eichmann had fled to Argentina and lived there quietly for a number of years until his name resurfaced in a celebrated mid-1950s controversy surrounding one of his leading Zionist partners, then living in Israel as a respected government official, who was denounced as a Nazi collaborator, eventually ruled innocent after a celebrated trial, but later assassinated by former members of Shamir’s faction.

Following that controversy in Israel, Eichmann supposedly gave a long personal interview to a Dutch Nazi journalist, and although it wasn’t published at the time, perhaps word of its existence may have gotten into circulation. The new state of Israel was just a few years old at that time, and very politically and economically fragile, desperately dependent upon the goodwill and support of America and Jewish donors worldwide. Their remarkable former Nazi alliance was a deeply-suppressed secret, whose public release might have had absolutely disastrous consequences.

According to the version of the interview later published as a two-part story in Life Magazine, Eichmann’s statements seemingly did not touch on the deadly topic of the 1930s Nazi-Zionist partnership. But surely Israeli leaders must have been terrified that they might not be so lucky the next time, so we may speculate that Eichmann’s elimination suddenly became a top national priority, and he was tracked down and captured in 1960. Presumably, harsh means were employed to persuade him not to reveal any of these dangerous pre-war secrets at his Jerusalem trial, and one might wonder if the reason he was famously kept in an enclosed glass booth was to ensure that the sound could quickly be cut off if he started to stray from the agreed upon script. All of this analysis is totally speculative, but Eichmann’s role as a central figure in the 1930s Nazi-Zionist partnership is undeniable historical fact.

 

Just as we might imagine, America’s overwhelmingly pro-Israel publishing industry was hardly eager to serve as a public conduit for Brenner’s shocking revelations of a close Nazi-Zionist economic partnership, and he mentions that his book agent uniformly received rejections from each firm he approached, based on a wide variety of different excuses. However, he finally managed to locate an extremely obscure publisher in Britain willing to take on the project, and his book was released in 1983, initially receiving no reviews other than a couple of harsh and perfunctory denunciations, though Soviet Izvestia took some interest in his findings until they discovered that he was a hated Trotskyite.

His big break came when Shamir suddenly became Israel’s Prime Minister, and he brought his evidence of former Nazi ties to the English-language Palestinian press, which put it into general circulation. Various British Marxists, including the notorious “Red Ken” Livingstone of London, organized a speaking tour for him, and when a group of right-wing Zionist militants attacked one of the events and inflicted injuries, the story of the brawl caught the attention of the mainstream newspapers. Soon afterward the discussion of Brenner’s astonishing discoveries appeared in the Times of London and entered the international media. Presumably, the New York Times article that had originally caught my eye ran sometime during this period.

Public relations professionals are quite skilled at minimizing the impact of damaging revelations, and pro-Israel organizations have no shortage of such individuals. Just before the 1983 release of his remarkable book, Brenner suddenly discovered that a young pro-Zionist author named Edwin Black was furiously working on a similar project, apparently backed by sufficient financial resources that he was employing an army of fifty researchers to allow him to complete his project in record time.

Since the entire embarrassing subject of a Nazi-Zionist partnership had been kept away from the public eye for almost five decades, this timing surely seems more than merely coincidental. Presumably word of Brenner’s numerous unsuccessful efforts at securing a mainstream publisher during 1982 had gotten around, as had as his eventual success in locating a tiny one in Britain. Having failed to prevent publication of such explosive material, pro-Israel groups quietly decided that their next best option was trying to seize control of the topic themselves, allowing disclosure of those parts of the story that could not be concealed but excluding items of greatest danger, while portraying the sordid history in the best possible light.

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Black’s book, The Transfer Agreement, may have arrived a year later than Brenner’s but was clearly backed by vastly greater publicity and resources. It was released by Macmillan, a leading publisher, ran nearly twice the length of Brenner’s short book, and carried powerful endorsements by leading figures from the firmament of Jewish activism, including the Simon Weisenthal Center, the Israel Holocaust Memorial, and the American Jewish Archives. As a consequence, it received long if not necessarily favorable reviews in influential publications such as The New Republic and Commentary.

In all fairness, I should mention that in the Foreword to his book, Black claims that his research efforts had been totally discouraged by nearly everyone he approached, and as a consequence, he had been working on the project with solitary intensity for many years. This implies the near-simultaneous release of the two books was purely due to chance. But such a picture is hardly consistent with his glowing testimonials from so many prominent Jewish leaders, and personally I find Brenner’s claim that Black was assisted by fifty researchers far more convincing.

Since both Black and Brenner were describing the same basic reality and relying upon many of the same documents, in most respects the stories they tell are generally similar. But Black carefully excludes any mention of offers of Zionist military cooperation with the Nazis, let alone the repeated attempts by Shamir’s Zionist faction to officially join the Axis Powers after the war had broken out, as well as numerous other details of a particularly embarrassing nature.

Assuming Black’s book was published for the reasons I suggested, I think that the strategy of the pro-Israel groups largely succeeded, with his version of the history seeming to have quickly supplanted Brenner’s except perhaps in strongly leftist or anti-Zionist circles. Googling each combination of the title and author, Black’s book gets eight times as many hits, and his Amazon sales ranks and numbers of reviews are also larger by roughly that same factor. Most notably, neither the Wikipedia articles on “The Transfer Agreement” and “The Ha’avara Agreement” contain any mention of Brenner’s research whatsoever, even though his book was published earlier, was far broader, and only he provided the underlying documentary evidence. As a personal example of the current situation, I was quite unaware of the entire Ha’avara history until just a few years ago when I encountered some website comments mentioning Black’s book, leading me to purchase and read it. But even then, Brenner’s far more wide-ranging and explosive volume remained totally unknown to me until very recently.

 

Once World War II began, this Nazi-Zionist partnership quickly lapsed for obvious reasons. Germany was now at war with the British Empire, and financial transfers to British-run Palestine were no longer possible. Furthermore, the Arab Palestinians had grown quite hostile to the Jewish immigrants whom they rightfully feared might eventually displace them, and once the Germans were forced to choose between maintaining their relationship with a relatively small Zionist movement or winning the political sympathy of a vast sea of Middle Eastern Arabs and Muslims, their decision was a natural one. The Zionists faced a similar choice, and especially once wartime propaganda began so heavily blackening the German and Italian governments, their long previous partnership was not something they wanted widely known.

However, at exactly this same moment a somewhat different and equally long-forgotten connection between Jews and Nazi Germany suddenly moved to the fore.

Like most people everywhere, the average German, whether Jewish or Gentile, was probably not all that political, and although Zionism had for years been accorded a privileged place in German society, it is not entirely clear how many ordinary German Jews paid much attention to it. The tens of thousands who emigrated to Palestine during that period were probably motivated as much by economic pressures as by ideological commitment. But wartime changed matters in other ways.

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This was even more true for the German government. The outbreak of a world war against a powerful coalition of the British and French empires, later augmented by both Soviet Russia and the United States, imposed the sorts of enormous pressures that could often overcome ideological scruples. A few years ago, I discovered a fascinating 2002 book by Bryan Mark Rigg, Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers, a scholarly treatment of exactly what the title implies. The quality of this controversial historical analysis is indicated by the glowing jacket-blurbs from numerous academic experts and an extremely favorable treatment by an eminent scholar in The American Historical Review.

Obviously, Nazi ideology was overwhelmingly centered upon race and considered racial purity a crucial factor in national cohesion. Individuals possessing substantial non-German ancestry were regarded with considerable suspicion, and this concern was greatly amplified if that admixture was Jewish. But in a military struggle against an opposing coalition possessing many times Germany’s population and industrial resources, such ideological factors might be overcome by practical considerations, and Rigg persuasively argues that some 150,000 half-Jews or quarter-Jews served in the armed forces of the Third Reich, a percentage probably not much different than their share of the general military-age population.

Germany’s long-integrated and assimilated Jewish population had always been disproportionately urban, affluent, and well-educated. As a consequence it is not entirely surprising that a large proportion of these part-Jewish soldiers who served Hitler were actually combat officers rather than merely rank-and-file conscripts, and they included at least 15 half-Jewish generals and admirals, and another dozen quarter-Jews holding those same high ranks. The most notable example was Field Marshal Erhard Milch, Hermann Goering’s powerful second-in-command, who played such an important operational role in creating the Luftwaffe. Milch certainly had a Jewish father, and according to some much less substantiated claims, perhaps even a Jewish mother as well, while his sister was married to an SS general.

Admittedly, the racially-elite SS itself generally had far stricter ancestry standards, with even a trace of non-Aryan parentage normally seen as disqualifying an individual from membership. But even here, the situation was sometimes complicated, since there were widespread rumors that Reinhard Heydrich, the second-ranking figure in that very powerful organization, actually had considerable Jewish ancestry. Rigg investigates that claim without coming to any clear conclusions, though he does seem to think that the circumstantial evidence involved may have been used by other high-ranking Nazi figures as a point of leverage or blackmail against Heydrich, who stood as one of the most important figures in the Third Reich.

As a further irony, most of these individuals traced their Jewish ancestry through their father rather than their mother, so although they were not Jewish according to rabbinical law, their family names often reflected their partly Semitic origins, though in many cases Nazi authorities attempted to studiously overlook this glaringly obvious situation. As an extreme example noted by an academic reviewer of the book, a half-Jew bearing the distinctly non-Aryan name of Werner Goldberg actually had his photograph prominently featured in a 1939 Nazi propaganda newspaper, with the caption describing him as the “The Ideal German Soldier.”

The author conducted more than 400 personal interviews of the surviving part-Jews and their relatives, and these painted a very mixed picture of the difficulties they had encountered under the Nazi regime, which varied enormously depending upon particular circumstances and the personalities of those in authority over them. One important source of complaint was that because of their status, part-Jews were often denied the military honors or promotions they had rightfully earned. However, under especially favorable conditions, they might also be legally reclassified as being of “German Blood,” which officially eliminated any taint on their status.

Even official policy seems to have been quite contradictory and vacillating. For example, when the civilian humiliations sometimes inflicted upon the fully Jewish parents of serving half-Jews were brought to Hitler’s attention, he regarded that situation as intolerable, declaring that either such parents must be fully protected against such indignities or all the half-Jews must be discharged, and eventually in April 1940 he issued a decree requiring the latter. However, this order was largely ignored by many commanders, or implemented through a honor-system that almost amounted to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” so a considerable fraction of half-Jews remained in the military if they so wished. And then in July 1941, Hitler somewhat reversed himself, issuing a new decree that allowed “worthy” half-Jews who had been discharged to return to the military as officers, while also announcing that after the war, all quarter-Jews would be reclassified as fully “German Blood” Aryan citizens.

It has been said that after questions were raised about the Jewish ancestry of some of his subordinates, Goring once angrily responded “I will decide who is a Jew!” and that attitude seems to reasonably capture some of the complexity and subjective nature of the social situation.

Interestingly enough, many of part-Jews interviewed by Rigg recalled that prior to Hitler’s rise to power, the intermarriage of their parents had often provoked much greater hostility from the Jewish rather than the Gentile side of their families, suggesting that even in heavily-assimilated Germany, the traditional Jewish tendency toward ethnic exclusivity had still remained a powerful factor in that community.

Although the part-Jews in German military service were certainly subject to various forms of mistreatment and discrimination, perhaps we should compare this against the analogous situation in our own military in those same years with regard to America’s Japanese or black minorities. During that era, racial intermarriage was legally prohibited across a large portion of the US, so the mixed-race population of those groups was either almost non-existent or very different in origin. But when Japanese-Americans were allowed to leave their wartime concentration camps and enlist in the military, they were entirely restricted to segregated all-Japanese units, but with the officers generally being white. Meanwhile, blacks were almost entirely barred from combat service, though they sometimes served in strictly-segregated support roles. The notion that an American with any appreciable trace of African, Japanese, or for that matter Chinese ancestry might serve as a general or even an officer in the U.S. military and thereby exercise command authority over white American troops would have been almost unthinkable. The contrast with the practice in Hitler’s own military is quite different than what Americans might naively assume.

 

This paradox is not nearly as surprising as one might assume. The non-economic divisions in European societies had almost always been along lines of religion, language, and culture rather than racial ancestry, and the social tradition of more than a millennium could not easily be swept away by merely a half-dozen years of National Socialist ideology. During all those earlier centuries, a sincerely-baptized Jew, whether in Germany or elsewhere, was usually considered just as good a Christian as any other. For example, Tomas de Torquemada, the most fearsome figure of the dreaded Spanish Inquisition, actually came from a family of Jewish converts.

Even wider racial differences were hardly considered of crucial importance. Some of the greatest heroes of particular national cultures, such as Russia’s Alexander Pushkin and France’s Alexandre Dumas, had been individuals with significant black African ancestry, and this was certainly not considered any sort of disqualifying characteristic.

By contrast, American society from its inception had always been sharply divided by race, with other differences generally constituting far smaller impediments to intermarriage and amalgamation. I’ve seen widespread claims that when the Third Reich devised its 1935 Nuremberg Laws restricting marriage and other social arrangements between Aryans, non-Aryans, and part-Aryans, its experts drew upon some of America’s long legal experience in similar matters, and this seems quite plausible. Under that new Nazi statute, pre-existing mixed-marriages received some legal protection, but henceforth Jews and half-Jews could only marry each other, while quarter-Jews could only marry regular Aryans. The obvious intent was to absorb that latter group into mainstream German society, while isolating the more heavily-Jewish population.

Ironically enough, Israel today is one of very few countries with a similar sort of strictly racially-based criteria for citizenship status and other privileges, with the Jewish-only immigration policy now often determined by DNA testing, and marriages between Jews and non-Jews legally prohibited. A few years ago, the world media also carried the remarkable story of a Palestinian Arab sentenced to prison for rape because he had consensual sexual relations with a Jewish woman by passing himself off as a fellow Jew.

Since Orthodox Judaism is strictly matrilineal and controls Israeli law, even Jews of other branches can experience unexpected difficulties due to conflicts between personal ethnic identity and official legal status. The vast majority of the wealthier and more influential Jewish families worldwide do not follow Orthodox religious traditions, and over the generations, they have often taken Gentile wives. However, even if the latter had converted to Judaism, their conversions are considered invalid by the Orthodox Rabbinate, and none of their resulting descendants are considered Jewish. So if some members of these families later develop a deep commitment to their Jewish heritage and immigrate to Israel, they are sometimes outraged to discover that they are officially classified as “goyim” under Orthodox law and legally prohibited from marrying Jews. These major political controversies periodically erupt and sometimes reach the international media.

Now it seems to me that any American official who proposed racial DNA tests to decide upon the admission or exclusion of prospective immigrants would have a very difficult time remaining in office, with the Jewish-activists of organizations like the ADL probably leading the attack. And the same would surely be true for any prosecutor or judge who sent non-whites to prison for the crime of “passing” as whites and thereby managing to seduce women from that latter group. A similar fate would befall advocates of such policies in Britain, France, or most other Western nations, with the local ADL-type organization certainly playing an important role. Yet in Israel, such existing laws merely occasion a little temporary embarrassment when they are covered in the international media, and then invariably remain in place after the commotion has died down and been forgotten. These sorts of issues are considered of little more importance than were the past wartime Nazi ties of the Israeli prime minister throughout most of the 1980s.

But perhaps the solution to this puzzling difference in public reaction lies in an old joke. A leftist wit once claimed that the reason America has never had a military coup is that it is the only country in the world that lacks an American embassy to organize such activities. And unlike the U.S., Britain, France, and many other predominately-white countries, Israel has no domestic Jewish-activist organization filling the powerful role of the ADL.

 

Over the last few years, many outside observers have noted a seemingly very odd political situation in Ukraine. That unfortunate country possesses powerful militant groups, whose public symbols, stated ideology, and political ancestry all unmistakably mark them as Neo-Nazis. Yet those violent Neo-Nazi elements are all being bankrolled and controlled by a Jewish Oligarch who holds dual Israeli citizenship. Furthermore, that peculiar alliance had been mid-wifed and blessed by some of America’s leading Jewish Neocon figures, such as Victoria Nuland, who have successfully used their media influence to keep such explosive facts away from the American public.

At first glance, a close relationship between Jewish Israelis and European Neo-Nazis seems as grotesque and bizarre a misalliance as one could imagine, but after recently reading Brenner’s fascinating book, my perspective quickly shifted. Indeed, the main difference between then and now is that during the 1930s, Zionist factions represented a very insignificant junior partner to a powerful Third Reich, while these days it is the Nazis who occupy the role of eager suppliants to the formidable power of International Zionism, which now so heavily dominates the American political system and through it, much of the world.

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  1. Dan Hayes says:

    Mr. Unz,

    With this latest installment of American Pravda you continue to raise the ante on verboten topics.

    It’s hard for me to visualize your penning an any more politically sensitive/daring essay, but you’ve proved me wrong before.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
  2. RobinG says:

    “FAKE NEWS” IS HERE. WHAT NOW, RON?

    Not long ago, you asserted that the first line of attack in piercing the matrix should be discrediting the media. This has been done, with a vengeance, by our fearless disrupter-in-chief. Except only a minority accept this, so we’re still stuck in a roiling cauldron of accusations. What’s your mid-chaos advice?

    In spite of the failure of all previous attempts to wake up the broader public, perhaps an ignominious dénouement for Zionist warhawk Ben Cardin would be a sufficient jolt. Seems he deserves prosecution for suborning perjury in the Senate testimony of Bill Browder. He’s up for reelection this year. Could a great scandal tank that?

    The “Magnitsky Trio” Pushes For War With Russia With New Sanctions, Authored by Tom Luongo
    “If half of what I have come to understand about the Curious Case of Bill Browder is true, then the “Magnitsky Trio” of Senators John McCain, Lindsay Graham and Ben Cardin are guilty of espionage, at a minimum. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-04/magnitsky-trio-pushes-war-russia-new-sanctions

    • Replies: @tac
  3. abc123 says:

    shitstorm incoming, t-minus 3, 2, 1…

  4. Bukowski says:

    An article which confirms what you have written is Zionism and the Third Reich by Mark Weber.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2437/

  5. ‘… Meanwhile, blacks were almost entirely barred from combat service, though they sometimes served in strictly-segregated support roles…’

    Not really. Two all-black divisions were formed and entered combat.

    One served in the Pacific, where it performed some mopping up functions. It managed to finish the war without any major disgrace, although its troops performed questionably in the one serious skirmish it engaged in.

    The other went to Italy, where it performed spectacularly badly, actually managing to be routed by an understrength Italian Fascist division in the winter of 1944-45, the Italian divison being itself of no great quality. I use the word ‘routed’ advisedly. The black soldiers literally ran, ran en masse, and ran a long way. I haven’t researched it, but I suspect this action may mark the most significant offensive success enjoyed by an Italian unit in World War Two.

    Ironically, thereafter the black division was brigaded with the legendary all-Japanese 442nd Regimental Combat Team. Since the 442nd RCT most certainly would fight, the ‘black’ division could be formally kept in the line — just make sure the Japanese are holding the actual front.

  6. ‘The notion that an American with any appreciable trace of African, Japanese, or for that matter Chinese ancestry might serve as a general or even an officer in the U.S. military and thereby exercise command authority over white American troops would have been almost unthinkable…’

    That may have been true; but I can’t resist pointing out that Terry de la Mesa Allen, the fiery commander of the 1st Division and later the 104th, was — as his name suggests — half-Mexican.

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @Anon
    , @AndrewR
  7. It’s worth pointing out that described abstractly, Zionism and Nazism are ideologically very similar. Both are essentially exaggerations of Nineteenth century European racial nationalism, both posit a more or less imaginary history to justify their territorial claims, both ignore the rights of all others in favor of their chosen group, both openly worship violence, and both are contemptuous of both legal and moral constraints. Israel has committed crimes proportionately as horrific as any Nazi Germany committed up to the outbreak of total war in 1941, and I’m all too confident that if total war did come to the Middle East, Israel would take advantage of the opportunity to engage in some very genocidal treatment of her Palestinian subjects.

    The primary differences are really that while Nazism was defeated over seventy years ago, Israel is still very much in being, and that while we here in the US opposed Nazism, we support Israel.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @JamesinNM
  8. Franz says:

    “Yet those violent Neo-Nazi elements are all being bankrolled and controlled by a Jewish Oligarch who holds dual Israeli citizenship.”

    Plus ca change.

    The Truthseeker (UK) has David Irving’s full Toronto speech on Winston Churchill:

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=174265

    In the second half of Irving’s long but engaging talk, he notes that Adolf Hitler, during the dim days before his ascension, had only two financial backers in Germany. Both were bankers. Both were Jewish.

    Perhaps your fine article above explains this oddity better than anything else.

  9. Rational says:

    EXCELLENT ARTICLE—LEARN MORE IN ONE HOUR HERE THAN IN YEARS FROM MSM.

    Thank you Mr. Unz, for this excellent article and the great website. I often learn things here that I did not know before, like the interesting things in this article on Judeo-Nazi collaboration.

    Keep up the good work! Great job!

  10. If the Israelis had wanted to silence Eichman, they would just have killed him in Argentina.

  11. Even stranger is the distinct possibility that Hitler had Jewish ancestry and tried to hide it.

    His american familythreatened to reveal that they had prove of his jewish ancestry and blackmailed him. Hitler paid up to prevent them revealing it.

    In terms of Jewish Genes , hitler had the genes that indicated that he had Jewish ancestry (although suche genes had spread into the Austrian gene pool).

    Lastly one of the reasons for the anchluss was that the chancellor of Austria was threatening to release documents revealing Hitlers ancestry. When The Nazis conquerred Austria, the Nazis were very thorough in destroying Jewish records there.

    It gets stranger and stranger

    • Replies: @Drake Stone
  12. Yevardian says:

    Though much of this isn’t particularly new to much (most?) of your readership, we all deeply appreciate the significant personal risk you’ve incurred to yourself as a public figure, considering the new direction your ‘American Pravda’ series has taken, and appears to be leading to.

    As an aside, though its only very tangentially on-topic, is Norman Finkelstein still on here? I presume took a token sum for being published and washes his hands of the rest of the site, considering that he’s a leftist of integrity, I imagine he can’t stand most of this site’s views. Interestingly, I recall him reading in an interview of his that he stated that his brother moved to Israel, and by the time he came back, his views made Norman’s ‘look like Alan Dershovitz [in comparison]‘.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  13. the author of the famous Balfour Declaration … was apparently also quite hostile to Jews, with an element of his motivation probably being his desire to exclude them from Britain

    Geoffrey Alderman’s Modern British Jewry quotes A J Balfour speaking in 1905:

    ‘A state of things could easily be imagined in which it would not be to the advantage of the civilisation of the country that there should be an immense body of persons who, however patriotic, able and industrious, however much they threw themselves into the national life, remained a people apart, and not merely held a religion differing from the vast majority of their fellow-countrymen, but only intermarried among themselves.’

    The quote appears in Kevin MacDonald’s Separation and Its Discontents, PDF, p38.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  14. Renoman says:

    It’s gotta be the money, it always is?

    • Replies: @Moi
  15. Heros says:

    “As near as I can recall, the last even slightly prominent figure in American public life who declared himself a “Nazi” was George Lincoln Rockwell during the 1960s, and he was much more of a political performance artist than an actual political leader.

    Indeed, the inclination of the more right-wing Zionist factions toward assassination, terrorism, and other forms of essentially criminal behavior was really quite remarkable.”

    What a coincidence: Rockwell was murdered by a communist jew! And guess what, the jew assassin wasn’t right wing, nor were all the great jew murderers like Trotsky, Kuhn or Lenin. Lying, cheating, defrauding, murdering, and blood sacrificing are things that ALL jew groups do. Right, left, orthodox, athiest, it is a trait that runs across all groups of jews, which is why I won’t let them distract me down with arguments like “these are some of the good jews, over there”.

    The real point here is that non-zionist marxist jews are trying to smear zionist jews by linking them to “Nazi’s”. Once again it is a not-so-clever jew deflection and projection, always singling out Germans to suffer under their eternal lust for blood revenge.

    The NSDAP never went around the world assassinating opposition political leaders. Jews have been doing this for centuries, it often also being tied to blood sacrifice cover ups ala Masaryk in Czechoslovakia, who was rewarded by the jews at Versailles with becoming the first President of Czechoslovakia.

    It is important to note, that before the jew assassinates his opposition, he tries to subsume them.
    Rockwell, like Hitler, could not be bought, so he had to be destroyed. It is the same thing that is happening to our freedom of speech: murder by jew.

    “Now it seems to me that any American official who proposed racial DNA tests to decide upon the admission or exclusion of prospective immigrants would have a very difficult time remaining in office, with the Jewish-activists of organizations like the ADL probably leading the attack.

    The ADL was created to cover up jewish blood sacrifice, and it continues this honor to this day. An organization founded to coverup the torture, blood extraction and murder of Christian babies in order to extract jew style revenge on Christ does not have an auspicious beginning. That the ADL continues to operate tax free as a jew mafia hit organization is proof of JP and its control of the IRS.

    This ADL JP bludgeon is being used to eliminate goyim free speech through things like hate speech filters and shadow banning as well as more crass censorship like blocking, banning, lawfare, police harassment, and even imprsonment.

    The ADL is also heavily involved in training the over-militarized US police forces to treat Americans the way the IDF treats palestinians.

    In short, Ron Unz has written another milquetoasty peace about jew depravity, while regurgitating their latest limited hangout explanations for the kosher narrative collapse we are witnessing:

    “The evil Zionists and eeeevil Nazis worked together”.

    Move along goyim, nothing to see here.

    • Agree: Kolo
    • Replies: @for-the-record
    , @Them Guys
  16. prometheus says: • Website

    Find the video of Netanyahu invoking RODEF/MOSER at a Tel Aviv election rally , Shamir is on the balcony , then the Continuity man stepped in Shimon.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  17. Sloopyjoe says:

    AshkeNAZI. Nuff said.

  18. mcohen says:

    So zionism is Nazism.well how come there are no Nazi symbols displayed in todays israel.

  19. RW says:

    What was Brennen’s basis for thinking Black used 50 researchers? And how would a writer make use of so many researchers without creating a disjointed work?

  20. Excellent article, like the preceding ones! It had already been rewarded by ban on the Facebook! I posted it there and had immediately been slapped with 30-days ban! Censorship is working!

  21. Bruno says:

    Fascinating article.

    The Churchill one is also very interesting for the comparison among christianism and Marxism, one for good and the other for evil.

    Maybe both were invented as ethnic group interest propaganda tool. Christianism (and messianism) as fixed by Paul was a good tool to destroy Roman Empire and control barbarian civilization (puting them in magic monotheist ground)

    The Churchill position is a predecessor, however more lucid and balanced, to the Kevin Macdonald one. In all what Jewish invented, they point to what they don’t like. And for what they like ie what they identify with, it either comes from god or is for good.

  22. APilgrim says:

    Ron Unz,

    Which version of MK did you read? There were two (2) contemporary English language translations of ‘Mein-Kamph’ (My Story); Adolph Hitler’s AUTHORIZED translation, which downplayed his genocidal plans, and the UNAUTHORIZED Translation by Edward William Proxmire. Hitler sued Proxmire in Federal Court for copyright infringement. Proxmire bragged about this throughout his political career, in the US Senate.

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    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  23. Jake says:

    “The importance of the Nazi-Zionist pact for Israel’s establishment is difficult to overstate. According to a 1974 analysis in Jewish Frontier cited by Brenner, between 1933 and 1939 over 60% of all the investment in Jewish Palestine came from Nazi Germany. The worldwide impoverishment of the Great Depression had drastically reduced ongoing Jewish financial support from all other sources, and Brenner reasonably suggests that without Hitler’s financial backing, the nascent Jewish colony, so tiny and fragile, might easily have shriveled up and died during that difficult period.”

    Ain’t history, the real stuff, funny? Hitler and the Nazis were necessary to keeping the Zionist colony in Palestine afloat.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Stanley
  24. Heros says:
    @Colin Wright

    White Christian soldiers who were expected to die for Israel might have been a little upset if they knew what the jews had in store for Christians, so the masons had to keep pretense that the whites were fighting for their homeland. More importantly, the Yankees were depending on southerners to be willing to die for Israel, and likely they wouldn’t have done that for a negro officer.

    One measure of how the US was preparing for war long before Hitler was finally forced to attack anyone, is that Gone With the Wind was released in 1939 to glorify the south and help predictively program southerners for their coming slaughter conquering Europe for Israel.

    The real truth here is that all these US officers, at high levels anyway, were either masons, templars, skull and bones, or some other secret society with hidden agendas and oaths of secrecy proscribing the severest punishment for ever telling the truth.

    Some of the highranking US officers and secret police that were either Freemasons or Templars: Allen Dulles , Angleton, Hoover, Donovan, MacAurthur.

    Wars are good for Freemasons, it completely unbinds the higher levels from any bounds of human morality, and it provides excellent opportunities for advancement within the craft.

  25. @jimmyriddle

    Maybe they wanted to “debrief” him first. It would be helpful for MOSSAD to find out what he had told others, as well as any incriminating documents he might have. In the event, he didn’t have the latter or had destroyed them. Maybe he felt so confident because he had a deal with the Zionists, which they broke. Certainly, if he was truly worried about assassination or abduction, he could have taken much more care in lying low. Dr Mengele NOT !
    Despite the Zionist propaganda, the affair was otherwise a complete failure. The negative reaction in Latin America and elsewhere was such that MOSSAD never tried anything of the sort again.
    PS Eichman had Jewish relatives too !

  26. APilgrim says:

    The PLO was ALWAYS a terrorist organization, in thrall to the USSR.

    1970. Palestine Liberation Organization forces are ejected from Jordan and move into Lebanon.

    1975. Lebanese civil war envelopes various factions of Moslems, Christians and Palestinians. There are frequent clashes between Israeli and Palestinian forces across the border.

    March 5, 1975. Eighteen people are killed when Palestian guerrillas attack shorefront hotel in Tel Aviv. Israel says they set out from Lebanon.

    Dec. 21, 1975. Palestinian guerrillas invade Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries conference in Vienna, kill 3 and seize 81 hostages, including 11 O.P.E.C. ministers.

    March 11, 1978. Al Fatah guerrilla assault on Haifa-Tel Aviv road kills 30 Israeli civilians.

    March 14, 1978. Israel invades Lebanon, pushes Palestinians back and establishes ”security zone.”

    The PLO leadership retreated from Beirut on 30 August 1982 and moved to Tunisia. https://www.nytimes.com/1982/06/08/world/israel-and-the-plo-7-years-of-strife.html -

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    , @Art
  27. Mr. Unz, in this ongoing series, is reaffirming what I’ve read and heard in forbidden sources ranging from David Irving to William Luther Pierce.

    It’s exhilarating to be witness to long submerged and forbidden truths being brought to the surface.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Fidelios Automata
  28. annamaria says:
    @jimmyriddle

    The zionists wanted a show.
    Meanwhile, the MSM is dead mute about the ignominy of the Jewish State attacking and imprisoning a doctor on a humanitarian mission to Gaza Ghetto: https://www.globalresearch.ca/an-account-from-a-doctor-on-board-the-freedom-flotilla-which-was-hijacked-by-the-israeli-navy/5649615
    “My food was taken away; water was taken away, all belongings including reading glasses taken away. My bladder was about to explode but I am not allowed to go to the toilet. …t they had broken into my baggage and took almost everything from it – all clothes clean and dirty, my camera, my second mobile, my books, my Bible, all the medicines I brought for the participants and myself, my toiletries. The suitcase was partially broken. My ruqsack was completely empty too…”
    —The crew of this ship also included Joe Meadors, a survivor of the USSLiberty: “Meadors said that on July 29, the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) appeared when the boat was 49 nautical miles off Gaza. He commented that there were six large patrol craft and four zodiac boats with storm troopers onboard. Meadors said one group of crew and passengers protected the pilot house. The IOF commandoes beat the Captain of the boat, hitting him and knocking his head against the sides of the ship and threatening him with execution if he did not restart the engine of the ship.”
    – Perhaps the most disgusting in this story is not the behavior of Israelis — they are known as the scum of the earth — but the cowardice of the US government and, particularly, of the US Army, which have allowed the mistreatment of true humanitarians including the survivor of USSLiberty. Neither US Gov nor US brass has anything to say to the Jewish criminals: https://usslibertyveterans.org/index.html
    “On June 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USSLiberty was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. The ship itself was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap.”
    – Whereas Israel enjoys abusing the real humanitarians, Israelis took a lot of efforts to save the known ISIS-collaborators — the “moderate” terrorists White Helmets.

  29. Ariel Sharon went brain-dead from a stroke in 2006 and lingered on for eight more years. Most people would say that’s one of the worst ways to go. And if there was anyone who deserved it more than him, I’d be hard-pressed to think of them.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  30. annamaria says:

    The ziocon idiots are still here: “The Rise and Continued Influence of the Neocons. The Project for the New American Century (PNAC)”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-rise-and-continued-influence-of-the-neocons/5649583

    “Robert Kagan. William Kristol. Paul Wolfowitz. Richard Perle. John Bolton. Elliott Abrams. Gary Schmitt. These are a few of the names generally associated with a strain of far-right political thought called neoconservatism.
    Politically, the neocons favour a world in which the United States adopts a much more aggressive military posture, and utilizes its military might to not only contain terrorist and related threats to its security, but force regime change in regions like the Middle East. They further take on the task of ‘nation-building’ all in the name of creating a safer world for ‘democracy.’ It was the neocons who promoted the stratagem of pre-emptive military action.”
    – This scum is guilty of inciting the wars of aggression that have produced a mass slaughter and humanitarian catastrophe in the Middle East. They — Kagans, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Perle, Bolton, Abrams, Schmitt — are enemies of humanity.

    • Agree: renfro, jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  31. Precise dating and more of them would help.
    Hitler was not real antisemitic, Goering, Goebbels, and Himmler were.

    • Replies: @Heros
  32. JackOH says:

    Extraordinary stuff, Ron, thanks. I’d known some of this material in dribs and drabs. Just had time for a quick eye-roll.

    FWIW-I think “essentialist” German anti-Semitism, not to mention “essentialist” White racism in the States, needs to be always challenged. That’s because you can drive a truck through the idea that permanent and universal enmity against Jews and American Blacks by Germans and American Whites is definitive of anything.

    Gotta go, Ron, and stay safe, buddy.

  33. @mcohen

    What is the Magen David?

    • Replies: @Anon
  34. Letter by prominent American Jews to the New York Times, December 2, 1948:

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/einstein/1948/12/02.htm

  35. The Zionists bankers of America and Britain and Europe put both Stalin and Hitler in power , see Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler and Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Anthony Sutton and so the fact is that Zionists were the cause of WWI and WWII and all the ensuing wars all for the Zionist goal of a Zionist controlled One World Gov, these books can be had on amazon.

    Also see Hitlers Secret Bankers by Sidney Warburg, everything we have been told about the wars throughout history has been a lie, see War is a Racket by General Smedley Butler.

  36. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:

    Ron Unz is my hero!

    Seriously, this series just keeps getting better and better. It almost feels as though we’re building up to some great dénouement … wonder what that would be!

    Various British Marxists, including the notorious “Red Ken” Livingstone of London, organized a speaking tour for him, and when a group of right-wing Zionist militants attacked one of the events and inflicted injuries, the story of the brawl caught the attention of the mainstream newspapers.

    Although the information Unz has recounted in the above article is well known to historians of Interbellum Europe, public figures such as like Livingstone, a former London mayor, can still get in all kinds of trouble just for mentioning it in public:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Livingstone#Suspension_from_the_Labour_Party

    But little by little, it seems truth may be seeping out.

  37. And the same would surely be true for any prosecutor or judge who non-whites to prison for the crime of “passing” as whites and thereby managing to seduce women from that latter group.

    Seems the work ‘sends’ is missing.

  38. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    [Comments without proper spacing, punctuation, capitalization, grammar, or meaningful content are much likely to be published.]

    I think the european people and their civilizations are in the late stages of an existential crises. Its its impossible to look back over 500 years and say exactly who is responsible, sadly though I have come to believe jews were an indispensable part, despite rather liking them otherwise I am at this point way beyond any principles other than self preservation most of the time. some times though i think if just maybe many jews dont actually understand what they have been doing and could be persuaded to change sides it might be the faster surer way to save my people and of course the jews.

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    I’m fairly confident my people will eventually rise and even greatly outnumbered will retake our lands. when that happens scapegoats will be found and the jews will probably wish for the nazis. Unless before hand jews enough jews can be made to understand whats been going on.while its too simplistic to blame it all on the jews Im convinced we cant begin to unravel the rot until the JQ is accepted by most whites.If jews first admit to this I think we are not beyond reconciliation on the condition of white ethno state going forward and people like soros dealt with in the harshest possible way along with their cuck counterparts.In other words the only way to avoid another holocaust is if jews take the lead in deconstructing the JQ I suppose this is not likely they are also victims of their own propaganda and would consider this suicide or bad for their interests. at some points whites are going to decide they dont want to commit suicide after all by this time thats going to mean war and hundreds of millions of non whites being expelled the suffering is going to raise the question what why who happened. theres simply no way to understand the hundreds of millions of non whites and cultural marxism etc without the jews getting rightfully most of the blame. either jews do a 180 and declare their white nationalism and disavow their past behavior or some future white minister of cultural crimes is going to do it for them. The fact is if today jew did a 180 and put the same effort into white nationalism as they do in anti white nationalism it would actually be possible to expel slowly and orderly all non whites with a patina of law and humane methods and jews could probably choose to stay and finally assimilate if they wanted. But if they do not it be be rough and bloody process. I have found many who are even HBD rectionaries simply can not deal with the jew question maybe because i grew up in nyc and know and like so many I find it easier to be honest without rancor but others reactionaries can not separate this from the class status that goes with not being anti semitic its as if they think it makes this a dummy of course theres a lot of anti semite dummys but while living with jews my whole life made me pretty woke on them in a still freindly way it was actually jews writing like Unz has here that really made me understand for the most part those neo nazi dummies were right this is probably the most serious problem and root cause of the morbidity of west civ and now our physical existence.Genocide is laughed at yet when all the media of all white nations has been putting out propaganda thats could be direct quotes from nazis only aimed at whites and its all owned and financed by jews and we know how it ends and the USA is 40% non white france is 60% non white sweden is gone this isnt rhetoric this is a situation where within a few years whites must begin killing their enemies if they are to survive

    • Replies: @Meimou
  39. annamaria says:

    The parasitoid’s branch in Brussels: http://ejp.eu/news/
    From the comment section: “EU blocking US sanctions against Iran to protect European companies” https://www.rt.com/business/435198-eu-blocking-us-sanctions-against-iran/
    “The European Jewish Parliament (EJP) formed in 2011 is an NGO of the Ukrainian billionaire Vadim Rabinovich and being located in the same building in Brussels as the EU, they are like a European version of Knesset, going after every politician.”
    Actually, “The European Jewish Parliament was founded in the Spring of 2011 by Ihor Kolomoyskyi and Vadim Rabinovich in 2011″ https://judas.watch/Vadim_Zinovyevich_Rabinovich

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Parliament

    “In 1980 Rabinovich was charged with stealing state property and spent 9 months in a jail. In 1984 he was arrested and sentenced to 14 years in prison for his black market activities . He was released in 1990.”
    “Rabinovich had his visa to the United States revoked in 1995 reportedly due to his links with criminal arm dealers.” https://judas.watch/Vadim_Zinovyevich_Rabinovich
    – Guess this is the best founder of The European Jewish Parliament one can find. http://www.hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Ukraine.html
    — Rabinovich’s close friend Kolomojsky is known as the main financier of the neo-Nazi battallion Azov: https://jewishbusinessnews.com/2014/05/16/vadim-rabinovichs-and-igor-kolomoyskys-jn1-to-cease-broadcasts/
    “Starting with a furniture import business, Rabinovich moved on to the export of natural gas [Russian gas?] from Ukraine. After he was convicted of various crimes there and stripped of his citizenship, Rabinovich moved to Israel and became an Israeli citizen. But later his convictions were overturned and his Ukranian citizenship restored.”

  40. annamaria says:

    More on the poor infested Ukraine.
    How come that Vadim Rabinovich, a known criminal (and the founder of the European Jewish Parliament (EJP), flourishes in Ukraine: http://www.hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Ukraine.html
    “Ukraine, which parted from Russia in 1991, has never achieved a true independent state. Just like in Russia, or even 80 years earlier in the Weimar Republic, a tribe of vultures descended upon the body of the nation.
    In the early 1990s, backed by the financial power of international Jewish bankers, the vultures bought for pennies, and plainly seized, all major enterprises previously owned by the state. Including the biggest factories and entire sectors of the newly “privatized” national economy.
    According to the 2001 Ukrainian census, there are 103,000 Jews in Ukraine, which is 0.2% of the total population. Out of 130 nationalities in the Ukraine, the Jewish minority numerically is behind Bulgarians (204,000), Hungarians (156,000), Romanians (151,000) and Poles (144,000). However, as one might expect, the Jewish “oligarchs” were the ones who happened to seize all positions in mass media.”
    Currently, Ukraine has a Jewish prime-minister Groyzman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Groysman
    “… out of the 400+ members of the Ukrainian Parliament, 136 (possibly 158) are Jews. That is more than in the Israeli Knesset. Who voted for them, asks professor Yaremenko. Who paid for costly election campaigns? — 90% of Ukrainian banks are owned by Jews.”
    Billionaire media moguls Gregory Surkis, Victor Medvedchuk, Vadim Rabinovich and Victor Pinchuk.
    “Zionists control all of Ukrainian television media. All major newspapers in Ukraine are also owned by Jews”: http://www.hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Ukraine.html

    • Replies: @europeasant
  41. US MILITARY AID TO ISRAEL SET TO EXCEED $3.8B, OR $23,000 PER YEAR FOR EVERY JEWISH FAMILY LIVING IN ISRAEL

    https://southfront.org/us-military-aid-to-israel-set-to-exceed-3-8b-or-23000-per-year-for-every-jewish-family-living-in-israel/

    In an event largely overlooked by the U.S. media, the Senate passed a bill on Wednesday that would provide Israel with $3.3 billion in military aid along with over $500 million for missile defense over the course of the next year. The bill, officially titled the “United States-Israel Security Assistance Authorization Act of 2018,” is expected to be voted on by the House within the week. If approved and signed into law by President Trump, it would represent the “single largest military aid package in American history.”

    The massive amount of funding being allocated to Israel’s military is ultimately the result of the 2016 U.S.-Israel Memorandum of Understanding on security assistance between the Israeli and U.S. governments, which called for $3.8 billion in funding for Israel on an annual basis over the next ten years.

    Though this startling figure — which translates into $23,000 for every Jewish family living in Israel — was supposed to be the limit for U.S. military aid to Israel, the figure is actually set to be higher this year, given Congress’ recent passage of a massive $716 billion defense bill that provides an additional $550 million in U.S. aid for Israeli missile defense systems. The defense bill also authorizes an additional $1 billion for U.S. weapons stockpiles in Israel.

  42. anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Winston Churchill, Tony Blair, all American Presidents, all Israeli PM, all members of the house of saud….
    Maybe they don t deserve more but they deserve at least the same luck…

  43. Wally says:

    As for Germany’s Erhard Milch, he was not a Jew. His mother re-married a Jew after Milch’s birth.

    As for Reinhard Heydrich, he allegedly had a Jew for a distant grandparent. Allied spy, Wilhelm Canaris said he had obtained photocopies proving Heydrich’s Jewish ancestry, but these “photocopies” were typically never provided.

    http://www.codoh.com

  44. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @prometheus

    Hitler could not be bought ?

    If I were you, I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Today we know who were Hitler’s bankers. w/o them, Hitler and the Nazi Party couldn’t have ” won “.
    Hitler’s behaviour at Dunkirk , Hitler’s admiration of the British empire (Jewish enterprise) etc…may suggest that maybe he wasn’t working for the white race.

    My suggestion is that white supremacists – and you seem to be one – should find another hero.
    Maybe you should choose Ron as your Hero. He certainly has more brain than that fool , Spencer.

  45. RW says:
    @Israel Shamir

    I can’t tell whether you’re joking or not. Is the article really banned on Facebook?

  46. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    Star of David, equivalent to swatizka or red star in commie flags adopted as symbol of Judaism in the mid 18th century in Germany

  47. Wally says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Well said, Johnny.

    We live in interesting, exhilarating times, the post WWII establishment is under siege.
    It will get much worse before it’s get better.

    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  48. Wally says:
    @mcohen

    said:
    “So zionism is Nazism.well how come there are no Nazi symbols displayed in todays israel.”

    Why does Israel support & arm “neo-Nazis” in Ukraine?

    Israel supporting & arming “Nazis” utterly shatters the fake ’6M Jews’ nonsense.

    http://www.codoh.com

  49. anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yevardian

    Norman Finkelstein believes that American people should elect Bernie Sanders as their president. This tells you all you need to know about this “radical intellectual”….and NF’ hero is Chomsky. NF’s integrity can’t bear too much truth. I believe that NF never made the journey Ron or Gilad did. I suspect that if NF was obliged to make the same journey, he would commit suicide.

    • Replies: @Moi
  50. @mcohen

    ‘So zionism is Nazism.well how come there are no Nazi symbols displayed in todays israel.’

    Yet another brilliant and conclusive argument from mcohen.

  51. Wally says:
    @jimmyriddle

    Lengthy, please select ‘MORE’.

    The Eichmann trial was a bizarre theatrical production. And most importantly what Eichmann actually said in court and under interrogation is preposterous, contradictory, and impossible.
    recommended:
    EICHMANN INTERROGATED: Transcripts from the Archives of the Israeli Police edited by Jochen von Lang in collaboration with Claus Sibyll. Translated from the German by Ralph Manheim. Farrar, Straus, and Giroux, New York, 1983, 293pp.: http://vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/6/2/OKeefe237-240.html

    and from: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8033

    - So called ‘holocaust’ historian (the ultimate oxymoron) Browning had little recourse in stating:

    Clearly, anyone who wants to dismiss Eichmann’s testimonies on the grounds of their demonstrated unreliability and shameless self-serving lies can easily do so, and many of my colleagues have done precisely this.

    - from: Eichmann Interrogated, transcripts from the Archives of the Israeli Police, edited by Jochen von Lang in collaboration with Claus Sibyll. Translated from the German by Ralph Manheim. Farrar, Straus, and Giroux, New York, 1983, 293pp:
    Eichmann claims to have witnessed mass slaughter on a grand scale at Auschwitz in the fall of 1941, where the camp commandant, Rudolf Hoess, informed him that the great, factory-like buildings, the chimneys of which belch smoke, are “working to capacity: Ten thousand!”
    This is months before the Auschwitz crematoria were constructed, let alone in use.

    Eichmann talks of Treblinka – but then he’s not sure if it’s Treblinka – where he says gassings were being carried out with a submarine engine (diesel); he claims at places near Minsk and Lemberg, mass shootings were taking place, including one mass grave from which he said [quote]blood was gushing out … like a geyser although it had already been filled in; and again Treblinka (this time there’s no doubt: phony railway station and all) where gassings, he claims, are being carried out with the insecticide Zyklon-B.
    The gushering geysers are a nice touch, and work well with the propensity of other “Holocaust” mass graves to quake and spew forth blood, sometimes for months after the killings. Treblinka, however, is supposed not to have been functioning as an extermination center until the summer of 1942, nor was Zyklon-B ever claimed to have been employed there.

    Eichmann even offers substantiation for the six-million claim-he says he’s worked out the numbers from reading ***Jewish almanacs***, he persistently rejects the accusation that he was the organizer of the “Final Solution” or the “flywheel of the extermination machine.”

    - The ‘holocaust’ Industry’s own Mark Roseman said:

    Both Rudolf Hoess’s and Eichmann’s testimonies lack credibility.

    - On Eichmann’s Diaries, Charles M. Sennott, Boston Globe, March 1, 2000, included this little tid-bit of information:

    From this self-absorbed focus on his own death he shifted easily to explaining in graphic detail how, in the death camps, “round cotton wool filters were soaked with this poison and thrown into the rooms where the Jews were assembled. The poison was instantly fatal.”

    The standard story line says the pesticide Zyklon-B was used. Zyklon-B was a dry granular substance impregnated with cyanide and outgasses for hours & hours, and in reality was used to kill typhus bearing lice.
    In a German language version Eichmann is claimed to have said:

    Hoess, the Kommandant, told me that he used **sulphuric acid** to kill. Round cotton wool filters were soaked with this poison and thrown into the rooms where the Jews were assembled. The poison was instantly fatal.

    But in another version we read that Eichmann said:

    The commandant, Hoess, told me that he used **prussic acid** to kill. Round wood-fibre discs were impregnated with this poison, and then thrown into the spaces where the Jews were gathered. The poison killed immediately.

    The problem is, everyone from the sanitation officers on up claim that the insecticide, Zyklon-B, was a gypsum composite. And of course, survivors all insist it was “crystals” of various hues; blue, green, mauve, take your pick.

    So in other words, Eichmann’s testimony here goes against the other ‘testimonies’ about Zyklon-B at Auschwitz, which themselves contain vast contradictions. It sure is hard for them to keep the lies straight.

    In his alleged pre-arrest ‘memoirs’, well…these ‘memoirs’ also have him describing himself as being more of a Zionist than an SS officer, right…sure.
    Eichmann clearly copy-catted now debunked material given him:
    - He refers to reading the ‘holocaust’ Industry’s Reitlinger for ‘information’.
    - He had a heavily annotated copy of the discreditied Hoess memoirs, published in Germany in 1957.
    - His preposterous statements that diesel submarine motors were used in gas chambers and that the hair of the victims was used to make slippers are from the bogus Gerstein claims. Gerstein’s affidavit became very widely known right after the war. Gerstein made many different & absurdly conflicting ‘confessions’ as has been demonstrated by Frenchman Henri Rocques.
    - Eichmann claims being ordered to go to Lemberg:

    There had been a pit there, it was already filled in, and blood was gushing out of it…how shall I say?…like a geyser. I’ve never seen anything like it. I’d had enough of that mission.

    Which he got from laughable testimony at the Einsatzgruppen Show Trials of 1947, not original to him.
    We must also ask how the accusers can conduct a trial of the accused? It is necessarily a bogus, unfair trial.
    And then we’re back to the fact that there is no physical evidence, no documentary evidence, and the ‘extermination’ methods as alleged are scientifically impossible.

  52. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Israel Shamir

    Top of Drudge this morning…

    ARE TECH GIANTS WORKING TOGETHER TO CENSOR CONSERVATIVES?
    Apple and Facebook BAN Infowars on Same Day

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/are-tech-giants-working-together-to-ban-conservatives-apple-and-facebook-ban-infowars-on-same-day/

  53. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @jimmyriddle

    limited hangout?

    • Replies: @Heros
  54. “Oceania was at war with East Asia. Oceania had always been at war with East Asia.”
    - George Orwell
    “1984″

  55. Wally says:

    Very, very related to this article by Ron Unz is Anatoly Karlin’s:
    Short History of the 20th Century

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/short-history-of-20th-century/

    There, Karlin tries passing off the thoroughly & easily debunked fraud of the ‘extermination of Jews’, which simply did not happen, there is not a shred of proof for such an absurd claim.

    What’s quite revealing is that comments / facts refuting that claim are banned, censored by Anatoly Karlin.

    This needs to be corrected if http://www.unz.com is going to have fair & balanced debate.
    What is Karln afraid of?

    Thanks.

    http://www.codoh.com

  56. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:

    It has been said that after questions were raised about the Jewish ancestry of some of his subordinates, Goring once angrily responded “I will decide who is a Jew!” and that attitude seems to reasonably capture some of the complexity and subjective nature of the social situation.

    With that in mind, I hereby declare Ron Unz to be fully Aryan! :-D

    • Replies: @escobar
  57. When an orthodoxy is so rigidly enforced that dissenters must huddle and hide in corners, it is only natural that their opposition becomes exaggerated, excessive, violent. Here at least is one spot in America where the forbidden can be spoken aloud, discussed and debated. Mr. Unz is doing an immense service, not merely to people interested in history, but in particular to the Jewish people, whose organizations, spokesmen and media participants seem determined to punish dissent and provoke hostility.

  58. annamaria says:
    @mcohen

    It is not only the nazification of the Jewish State — the zionists have been supporting and weaponizing the Ukrainian neo-Nazis. The regime change in Kiev in 2014 was a ziocons’ enterprise through and through. Nuland-Kagan (of the Kagans clan of warmongers) has found kindred spirits in the neo-nazi scum. The result is the ongoing civil war in Ukraine.

    The current prime-minister fo Ukraine, Groysman, is Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Groysman

    “According to the 2001 Ukrainian census, there are 103,000 Jews in Ukraine, which is 0.2% of the total population. Out of 130 nationalities in Ukraine, the Jewish minority numerically is behind Bulgarians (204,000), Hungarians (156,000), Romanians (151,000) and Poles (144,000).
    … the Jewish “oligarchs” were the ones who happened to seize all positions in mass media” in Ukraine; see the Jewish “billionaire media moguls Gregory Surkis, Victor Medvedchuk, Vadim Rabinovich and Victor Pinchuk.” — That was handy during the regime change in 2014.

    http://www.hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Ukraine.html

    — The main financier of neo-Nazi battallion Azov is an Israeli citizen Kolomojsky. He also used to be a leader of the Jewish Community of Ukraine. Another criminal, Vadim Rabinovich (a friend of Kolomojsky) is a founder of the European Jewish Parliament (EJP). A complete understanding between the criminal Jewish scum and neo-nazi.
    Meanwhile, the Jewish State has been providing Ukrainian neo-Nazi with Israel-made arms. https://thedailycoin.org/2018/07/16/israel-is-arming-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/

    — You see, Jews are superbly tolerant to “their” Nazis. The Israelis and Israel-firsters in the US and the UK deserve to be named Jewish neo-Nazis for their ardent support for the supremacist ideology and supremacist project that has already cost millions of innocent lives in the Middle East. The historical documents only prove the long-suspected affinity between zionists and fascists.

  59. Hunsdon says:
    @APilgrim

    Umm, relevance?

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  60. @annamaria

    “According to the 2001 Ukrainian census, there are 103,000 Jews in Ukraine, which is 0.2% of the total population”

    The same was true in the Poland and Germany of the 1920′s and 1930′s.

    Itz amazing how successful and powerful many of them are. Here in my neck of the woods we have a Jewish mayor and very possibly we could have a Jewish governor.

  61. szopen says:

    the intermarriage of their parents had often provoked much greater hostility from the Jewish rather than the Gentile side of their families,

    I’ve read exactly the same in the book by Mark Paul “Traditional Jewish attitudes towards Poles”: he was giving examples of Jewish people who were expelled from their communities for marrying Poles (in the interwar Poland, before WW2).

  62. APilgrim says:

    [Comments which are utterly off-topic may not necessarily be published, and commenters who repeatedly engage in such misbehavior may endanger their other comments.]

    General Ion Mihai Pacepa was the highest ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc. He is author of “Red Horizons” (1987), a memoir.

    Pacepa carefully lays out the historical evidence: no country has survived “socialism,” whether or not it became part of the Soviet Empire . And in case after case, the KGB (or whatever it called itself) systematically took some grain of truth and expanded it to a totally misleading picture of the West, especially of the United States. He lists American “progressive” organizations he personally funded on behalf of Moscow, he cites ostensibly patriotic leaders who did the KGB’s dirty work for them—especially when they portrayed America as a racist and imperialist country—and warns that the same kinds of deception are being used against us today by Vladimir Putin’s Russia. The primary villains are either in, or associated with, Hillary Clinton’s team in the Democratic Party.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelledeen/2016/09/04/the-greatest-spy-speaks-about-the-threat-to-america/#3676e3ad6a59http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/668634/posts

  63. Heros says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “Hitler was not real antisemitic, Goering, Goebbels, and Himmler were.”

    What exactly is “antisemitic”? The last AP thread was about anti-semitism, and I don’t recall you getting into it there, so why do you make meaningless statements like this here?

    Ron Unz has already illustrated beyond a shadow of a doubt in past AP threads that what you call “anti-semitism” was a reaction to Jewish behavior, not the other way around. Russia was conquered by Jews in 1917, the Kalergy plan was written in 1923, Judea declared war on Germany on in 1933 (see above), Kaufman wrote “Germany must Perish” in 1939.

    Goering, Goebbels, and Himmler knew precisely what the jews were planning, it was the genocide of Germany. Already during WWI the (((allies))) had been saying that Germany needed to be reduced in population by 20 million, and that is exactly what they accomplished in WWII. So the real question to ask is:

    What was it that the jews had done to Germany that made Goering, Goebbels, and Himmler hate jews almost as much as jews hated Christians?

    Was it the blood sacrifice? Was it the usury? Was it the well poisoning? Was it the stab in the back in WWI? Was it the hyperinflation of 23? Was it the total debasement of German culture during Weimar?

    Of course, we will never know for sure what the jews did to make the Saxon start to Hate. But please spare us this tired old jew guilt-as-a-weapon canard called “anti-semitism”.

    • Agree: mark green
  64. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    There was also at least one Korean-American officer, Young-Oak Kim, and one of the grandsons of either Chang or Eng Bunker was an Air Force general.

  65. @Colin Wright

    My late uncle served in WWII and participated in the invasion of Italy under Patton. He was a great guy, though he had a racist streak that I found surprising since he hailed from a very white Midwestern state. Where would he have encountered blacks to form such a negative opinion? Later I heard from a family member that this very negative encounter was in Italy in WWII.

  66. Anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:

    marriages between Jews and non-Jews legally prohibited

    False. Those marriages are recognized in Israel. As with gay marriages, they have to be performed abroad, usually in Cyprus, but they are recognized nonetheless.

    the remarkable story of a Palestinian Arab sentenced to prison for rape because he had consensual sexual relations with a Jewish woman by passing himself off as a fellow Jew

    False, mostly. The perp raped a girl with Down’s Syndrome, and rather than forcing her to testify about the details, the prosecutor charged him with the common-law offense of rape by deception.

    Anyway, I’m getting whiplash around here, because Jews/Israel are supposedly like Nazis now, but the Holocaust didn’t actually happen and Nazism was an understandable reaction to Bolshevism and British imperial expansionism, so does that make Jews/Israel good again?

  67. escobar says:
    @Anonymous

    Years before Goering, Karl Lueger, mayor of Vienna from 1897-1910 said: “Wer ein Jud’
    ist. bestimme ich,” or “I’ll determine who is a Jew.”

  68. @Johnny Smoggins

    Agreed! Unz’s work sheds a lot of light on the insanity of the 20th and 21st Century from Bolshevism to Cultural Marxism. Nazism was a response to the anti-white bloodbaths of the October Revolution and the starvation blockade of Germany. Today’s anti-white diversity worship and mass-immigration-ism seem to me to be a delayed response to the Holocaust, particularly since left-leaning Jewish intellectuals don’t consider themselves to be white.
    In other words, though much of the world’s troubles stem from corruption and greed, the most horrific atrocities result from tribalism run amok.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  69. @John Lilburne

    Hitler’s supposed Jewish ancestry was thoroughly researched going back centuries and was totally debunked. It’s covered in Norman Mailer’s last novel THE CASTLE IN THE FOREST.

  70. Heros says:
    @DCThrowback

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

    “spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further.”

    This perfectly describes exactly what this Nazi/Zionist love birds distraction is about. Monika Lewinsky would be another good example.

    The issue here is that Judea wanted war after Hitler pried Germany out of their jew mind control orbit. Judea was united with Stalin too. All the NSDAP knew this, it was a war for the salvation of Germany and also Europe, or bust. Unfortunately the jews won, but they still don’t want us goyim to know because we can see the result of this loss all around us today. Hence a long string of jew kosher narrative limited hangouts playing out over the last century.

    • Replies: @renfro
  71. escobar says:

    I’d like to see someone tackle this topic: why have (mostly_ Ashkenazi) Jews been so successful and accepted in America, compared to other countries inhabited and run by white, Christian Europeans?Could it have something (not everything) to do with America being in great part, a “money culture” or wealth culture from the beginning, where the Christian values that chased the money-lenders out of the temple handed the Jews the keys to it, to the American version of the Bible’s Golden Calf–Wall Street?
    In a culture where Christian values, including being one’s brothers keeper, mattered as much or more than return on investment, that might not have happened. Too late now, the cement that once held together our social bonds (via religion and nationalism) is crumbling.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  72. @Heros

    In the jewish defence you find all you need:
    Ismar Schorsch, ‘Jewish Reactions to German Anti-Semitism, 1870 – 1914′, New York 1972
    A similar book:
    ‘Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry’, Moshe Y Herclz, 1993 New York University press
    and
    Fritz Stern, ‘Gold and Iron, Bismarck, Bleichröder, and the Building of the German Empire’, New York, 1977
    Solsjenytsyn describes similar behaviour in tsarist Russia,
    and in
    Solomons Katz, ‘The Jews in the Visigothic and Frankish Kingdoms of Spain and Gaul’, Cambridge 1937
    Around 690 a jewish plot was discovered to let the Muslims into Spain, as Katz writes ‘in 711 jews had their revenge’.
    The jewish power in the mentioned kingdoms surprises me.

    • Replies: @Wally
  73. The terms Nazi / Nazism and Fascism as cemented in the popular mind and used in media and culture, are propaganda constructs, widely divergent from National Socialism and Mussolini’s Fascism.

    The 1948 New York Times letter linked by David Martin @ #35 casts this fact in relief: consider these paragraphs from the letter:

    Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin’s behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.
    The public avowals of Begin’s party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

    Attack on Arab Village

    A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants240 men, women, and children and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem.

    The letter writers conflated “Menachem Begin’s . . .Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine,” with Fascism, which the letter did not otherwise define.

    As Germar Rudolf points out in the Inconvenient History journal, German government in the Third Reich was the National Socialist German Workers Party, or National Socialism, or NS.

    The pejorative, Nazi, was attached to the party by one of the earliest Jewish zionist propagandists, James Waterman Wise, son of Rabbi Stephen Wise. In May, 1933, shortly after Rabbi Wise had received the directive from zionist capo Louis Brandeis that “All Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 German Jews must leave . . .” (Feb. 14, 1933; see Edwin Black, Transfer Agreement), James W. Wise published “Swastika, The Nazi Terror”, whose opening lines declared that the banner of the “Nazi” government was “a symbol of hatred of the Jewish people.” That label, and the definitions of NS that Wise set out, have displaced facts with beliefs by means of relentless repetition.

    As Ron Unz mentioned, “anti-Jewish sentiments hardly seemed central to . . . [the] text” of Mein Kampf. Nor did Mein Kampf urge the use of terror.

    Similarly, although the term is used with reckless abandon, Fascism was carefully defined by Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile in “The Doctrine of Fascism,” faculty.smu.edu/bkcarter/the%20doctrine%20of%20fascism.doc (not a hot link; copy-paste).

    Two points are noteworthy:
    1. Both National Socialism and Fascism were nation-specific; that is, the respective doctrines drew from the specific histories and cultures of their countries; targeted their unique problems at the time, and held a vision specific to each country. For example, Mussolini’s vision is described in terms of Italy’s long interrelationship with Italian Roman Catholicism, surely not something zionism would embrace.

    2. Nevertheless, Mussolini held Socialism / National Socialism in disdain.
    In this regard, it’s worth noting that Mussolini was the intellectual heavy-weight of these -isms and was admired by Hitler. And even though I would argue strenuously that it is an outrage to identify zionism as Fascism, it is the case that Vladimir Jabotinsky greatly admired most things Italian and especially the vision and muscularity of Mussolini.

    While it is true that Mussolini’s Doctrine of Fascism urged that Italians must be prepared to fight and even die for the vision of a new Italy, and it is also true that Fascist doctrine held that expansion was the natural course of a strong state, Mussolini organized a uniformed military to accomplish these goals, he did not engage or envision in a decades-long terror campaign.

    Zionist terrorism is not, and should not be defined in terms of National Socialism or Fascism.

  74. Sumashik says:

    Unz, do you ever plan to touch upon why exactly American conservatives and Christians are so comically philo-semitic? Is it something intrinsic to the nature of American Christianity? I’m aware even Sephardic Jews were accepted as white in the Antebellum South, a prominent example being Judah P. Benjamin, so this predates things like the Jewish dominance in Hollywood or the ascendancy of the Neocons and the Israel Lobby.

    I’d say the normalization of circumcision has been central to this, for which Jews have also been absolutely central to, and were influential in even going back to the Victorian era where it began as a “medical” practice to prevent masturbation. For a crash course on this, see this incredible talk by Eric Clopper, a Jewish man, who got fired from Harvard for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCuy163srRc

    This comment on there gives an excellent summation of how circumcision has served to increase Jewish exomagy and allow them to integrate into American society, and those of other Anglo countries:

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    “Brit milah made it much easier to preserve endogamy among Jews living in majority Christian societies. Let me explain. If a Jewish young man slipped out of his shtetl and headed for a nearby city, he could not be employed or own property unless he passed as a goy. If he did pass and did succeed, he could then marry. But sooner or later his Christian bride would notice that he had no foreskin, a fact which would betray his Jewish origins. If his bride reported the fact to the authorities, the Christian impostor would be severely punished, even killed. Hence a Jewish young man who fled his native shtetl was doomed to never marrying. Even 2 hours with a prostitute was risky. If a Jewish young woman pondered an offer of marriage from a Christian man (this is part of the plot of Walter Scott’s Ivanhoe), her family would tell her “he is uncircumcised and that is disgusting”. If she married him anyway, she would be reminded of her betrayal of her people, every time she did foreplay on her husband. Hence the very low level of Jewish-Christian intermarriage before the 19th century. The past 50 years have seen a very high rate of Jewish-Christian intermarriage in the USA and Canada. Since the 1920s, most educated gentile men in those countries are circumcised, a fact which has encouraged this high rate of intermarriage. I hasten to admit that the thesis I have just laid out does not explain the persistence of bris in majority Muslim societies.”

    Circumcision in America (and most other Anglo countries) did not become the norm until after WWII, and only in the US and Canada did it persist long-term. And only in America does it remain the norm, though it is possible that it is below 50% as of now. Nonetheless, it persists to unparalleled degrees in the US, and in much of the country- ironically, often the most Christian and conservative states- it has barely changed in many years. And the rates pretty closely parallel the outmarriage and general acceptance of Judaism in American society.

    Circumcision was long looked down upon throughout the Christian west, but this changed starting in the Victorian era. As masturbation and promiscuity became seen as deeply sinful and the cause of any number of mental disorders and diseases, circumcision and other genital mutilations (of both male and female) began to be seen as solutions to this (although this only really took off in Anglo countries.) And since Jews had long performed circumcision with the express purpose of damaging male sexuality and reducing lust, they unsurprisingly had influence on the Victorian practice. I’ve also lost track of specific references, but I believe this site touches upon how this helped to improve the image of Jews in much of the Western world, and were admired for their chastity and ability to rise above sexual debauchery: http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

    As the normalization of circumcision has helped to allow Jews to outmarry and goyim to marry them, so too has the normalization of circumcision desensitized and acclimated people to it. What was once seen as a barbaric, unchristian mutilation is seen as perfectly good and acceptable, even Christian by scores of American Christians. It’s served to make them more accepting of Judaism as a whole. It has also normalized Jewish conceptions of sexuality. Judaism has long performed circumcision to denude male sexuality, because it does- and when you do this to people in infancy, they have no real possibility of a reference, so the dysfunction and limitations associated with it are perfectly normal or unacknowledged.

    https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/379485/jewish/Healing-Swollen-Ego.htm

    “The foreskin of the male reproductive organ effects his experience of marital relations in two ways: it increases his gross sensual pleasure and decreases his sensitivity to his wife by insulating him from her to a certain extent. By removing the foreskin, the experience of marital relations becomes for the man less of a narcissistic indulgence and more of a true spiritual coupling between him and his wife. Once the spiritual dimension of marital relations is allowed into the picture, it enhances the physical dimension as well. The sages of the Talmud therefore state that ideally, at least, it is the Jewish couple that experiences the truest enjoyment in marital relations.”

    Reminds you of how people try to post-hoc justify the desensitization of circumcision with “it’ll make you last longer for her”, doesn’t it?

    Ironically, many Jews decry the staggering levels of outmarriage among American Jews, but this likely would never happened if Jews didn’t relentlessly proselytize, promote, and perform circumcision among non-Jews. There’s a fair amount of anecdote and testimony suggesting that Jewish doctors promote and perform circumcision on non-Jews in part with the goal of normalizing it and preventing it from being legally questioned. And we shockingly see a preponderance of Jewish doctors in the promotion of the AIDS link, and Israeli medical companies involved in the obsession to promote circumcision in Africa and increasingly other developed countries. And when circumcision is legally questioned, they’ll do everything they can to make circumcision out to be like a perfectly benign, beneficial medical procedure, even though Judaism didn’t view it that way at all for most of it’s history (and many Orthodox Jews still do- something that Chabad rabbi who was sent to Iceland recently declined to tell people: https://twitter.com/cursedsalad/status/1010591892940120065).

    And be sure make it to out to be nothing like “female genital mutilation”, even though most people throughout history never really drew distinctions between the two, because most people’s understanding is the result of unendingly hysterical, hyperbolic feminist propaganda from the past 40-50 years that did things like uphold the most extreme forms of FGM as the norm/universal or medically illiterate BS like “removing the entire clitoris”, which has all further served to make circumcision seem like nothing, and helped to promote circumcision in Africa (and shockingly, some of the feminist activists who were central to this were Jewish- but it’s pretty well known feminism is wildly.)

    This all isn’t even going into how the general rejection of Metzitzah B’Peh in the 19th century led to an increasing rejection of circumcision in reform Judaism, to the point many German Jews by the 1930′s weren’t circumcised, and Theodore Herzel himself refused to circumcise his son. But talk to many Jews now, and they’ll act as if thinking cutting parts of a child’s penis is wrong is simply because you hate Jews.

    The Jewish approach to circumcision of the past 150 years and how central this has been to their integration into non-Jewish society- and as emblematic of their thought processes- is really, really overlooked. Probably in large part because, given how so many American males have been circumcised, it means coming to term to what was done to you and what was lost- difficult for even those with awareness of the nature of Judaism.

    • Replies: @utu
  75. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Jilles, you cited:
    Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry, but said nothing about it’s contents.

    That doesn’t surprise me because the alleged gassings of Hungarian Jews has been refuted in spades.
    recommended:
    The Deportation of Hungarian Jews from May to July 1944
    by Carlo Mattogno: https://codoh.com/library/document/357/?lang=en
    Most of them were transferred OUT of Auschwitz, none were gassed, ever.
    and:

    http://juergen-graf.vho.org/articles/hungarian-holocaust-debate.html

    Juergen Graf : The Fate of Unregistered Auschwitz Inmates

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @jilles dykstra
  76. @escobar

    USA’s British parentage may have something to do with it: The Bible — Hebrew ‘Old Testament’ and Christian New Testament, is a bedrock of British cultural and identity. That biblical foundation is post-Reformation, more evangelically oriented than Roman Catholicism.

  77. @Fidelios Automata

    a delayed response to the Holocaust,

    Not quite right.

    (First of all, most of the holocaust narrative is bunk. Make that part of your daily affirmations: The Holocaust Narrative is Bunk. Imbibe it with your morning coffee; it acts synergistically with the Red Pill.)

    The first generation of Jews who “survived the holocaust,” (how one survives a total burnt sacrifice = one of physics’ great mysteries) tended to remain low-key. They did not volunteer that much about having been sent to gas chambers or ovens.

    As someone mentioned on an earlier article, The Holocaust © took off only in the mid-1960s, AFTER the trial and execution of Eichmann; AFTER Israel had secured nuclear weapons; AFTER Israel had flexed its muscle in the 1967 war; (AFTER JFK was dead and LBJ reliably in his place). In other words, a second generation of Jews were more deeply indoctrinated with a necessarily bogus narrative than were the people who actually lived the experience. Gllad Atzmon explains this concept of PRE-traumatic stress disorder in The Wandering Who

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/norton-mezvinsky-gilad-atzmon-and-the-wandering-who.html

    (includes video)

    The THIRD generation of Jewish zionists know nothing but the bogus narrative they’ve been fed all their lives. They have suffered least, have been pampered and prospered most, are convinced by the ‘success’ of Israel’s zionist project that they are, indeed, gawd’s chosen and entitled. This group is the most dangerous because they have no grounding in reality and have the most to lose in failing to Keep the Lie Alive.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  78. I don’t get it. The theme of many is that the extermination of Jews by Nazi Germany did not really happen. How does one explain the mountains of film I have seen depicting Soviet armies and American armies stumbling upon concentration camps with mountains of corpses littering the area, real ovens, and skeletal humans? Mass deportations by trains, etc. Perhaps the actual figure of 6 million may be in question due to an elevated body count as a Zionist invention for propaganda and financial benefits, but SOME shit was going on vis-a-vis the Jews in Europe.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Heros
    , @Art
    , @Johnny Smoggins
  79. The Germans were quite open about what they wanted [regardless whether I dis/agree with such ideologies].

    The Apartheid State pretends to be a democracy without borders, confined within a web of draconian ‘laws…’

  80. ‘…and it also seemed to have a far harder edge in its Middle East reporting…’

    This is hardly unique to the Times. Over the past two decades, one outlet after another has been either pushed from neutrality to active support for Israel, or from a critical stance to careful neutrality (or rather, silence). For example, I can definitely recall the BBC pounding on Israel really hard back around 2000. Now they occasionally make a cautious peep — but be sure and cover anything bad being done to Israel at all. Ditto — somewhat remarkably — for the Guardian. Oh the vigilant defender of the oppressed still rants on as ridiculously as ever — as long as the oppressed aren’t in Palestine. Almost perfect silence there.

    Generally, I’m skeptical of conspiracy theories — whether they’re about monolithic Jewry or anything else. However, it does seem as if some group did orchestrate and carry out a methodical campaign to neuter the mainstream media.

    • Replies: @Sean
  81. Heros says:
    @Wally

    Round and around it goes. Every thread Wally has to refute the same people writing the same drivel. Never does anyone try to engage Wally in a debate, they just lurk about until the next thread and then stab him in the back with the same old holocaust-eternal-guilt-Dolch.

    Is this the result of hasbara, shabboz goyim, or just plain thick headed jew stupidity? I sure wish somebody could explain it to me.

    • Replies: @Hamlet's Ghost
  82. @Heros

    As the Jew stabs you in the back – he cries out in pain.

  83. @Drake Stone

    ‘Hitler’s supposed Jewish ancestry was thoroughly researched going back centuries and was totally debunked. It’s covered in Norman Mailer’s last novel THE CASTLE IN THE FOREST.’

    Yeah. Somewhat comically, though, it appears Hitler was part-Turkish. This is perfectly plausible, as both Turkish invasions of Austria included bands of irregulars who ran wild across the countryside, looting, burning, and raping.

    • Replies: @Kolo
  84. While the pre-war Zionist groups sought to form connections with the Italian and German fascists, as detailed in the above article, the more religious element of Zionism had already been at work. The Sabbatean-Frankist network, originating from a Kabbalistic order from the eighteenth century, infiltrated the esoteric cults that existed in Austria and Germany in the 1910s and 1920s that gave birth to the Nazi Party.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  85. @Anonymous

    ‘…The perp raped a girl with Down’s Syndrome, and rather than forcing her to testify about the details, the prosecutor charged him with the common-law offense of rape by deception…’

    If you’re referring to the 2010 case, this would appear to be a lie. I looked up the case, and while some allegations were later introduced that muddied the waters, I didn’t see anyone claiming the ‘girl’ suffered from Down’s Syndrome.

  86. Moi says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Mr. Unz is that rare person who is courageous, objective and introspective. Few journalists, very, very few, are as honest as Mr. Unz.

    • Agree: Rurik, gsjackson
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  87. @SolontoCroesus

    ‘…The first generation of Jews who “survived the holocaust,” (how one survives a total burnt sacrifice = one of physics’ great mysteries) tended to remain low-key. They did not volunteer that much about having been sent to gas chambers or ovens…’

    I think there may be a much more charitable explanation for this than the one you offer.

    Ever notice that those who cry in public didn’t actually suffer much? Female graduate students break into tears as they describe how a professor touched their hand. Obama was a victim of racism: a security guard followed him around a store once.

    Those who have actually suffered keep quiet about it. It hurts to revisit it. You stay away from the memory — and you certainly don’t proclaim your injury in public. Ever seen a hurt animal? It keeps real quiet.

    Same with people. I wouldn’t infer from the silence of the first generation of holocaust survivors that nothing happened.

    • Agree: Vojkan
  88. AndrewR says:
    @Colin Wright

    And he wouldn’t have looked out of place in Copenhagen, so I’m not sure what your point is.

  89. Moi says:
    @Renoman

    Yup. The moneylender uber alles–as long as greed trumps principles.

  90. @Anonymous

    “False. Those marriages are recognized in Israel. As with gay marriages, they have to be performed abroad, usually in Cyprus, but they are recognized nonetheless.”

    I guess gay marriage was legal in the US since the marriages were recognized even if they had to be performed in Canada.

    How much does the JIDF pay these days?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Karl
  91. Sean says:
    @Colin Wright

    The best way to orchestrate and carry out a methodical campaign to neuter anyone’s influence is to show that they cannot pick you any winners . George F.Will went out of his way to do that to himself, and has been let go by Fox. It is becomeing increasingly clear that the Palestinians are going to lose everything and no one wants to stand in the shadow of failure .

  92. Moi says:
    @anonymous

    Neither NF nor Chomsky have been fully weaned off the kool-aid.

  93. hyperbola says:

    Yitzhak Shamir got into many places, including the USA. We and others are still paying the price of the efforts of the ZionCons. Among the recent victims are Hondurans and now Nicaraguans.

    Shamir’s October Surprise Admission

    https://consortiumnews.com/2012/07/03/shamirs-october-surprise-admission/

    ….ex-Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir offered the stunning confirmation that “of course” an October Surprise plot had blocked President Jimmy Carter from gaining the release of 52 U.S. hostages in Iran, thus helping Ronald Reagan win the presidency in 1980…

    How Neocons Destabilized Europe

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/07/how-neocons-destabilized-europe/

    … When I first encountered the neocons in the 1980s, they had been given Central America to play with. President Ronald Reagan had credentialed many of them, bringing into the U.S. government neocon luminaries such as Elliott Abrams and Robert Kagan. But Reagan mostly kept them out of the big-power realms: the Mideast and Europe.

    Those strategic areas went to the “adults,” people like James Baker, George Shultz, Philip Habib and Brent Scowcroft. The poor Central Americans, as they tried to shed generations of repression and backwardness imposed by brutal right-wing oligarchies, faced U.S. neocon ideologues who unleashed death squads and even genocide against peasants, students and workers.

    The result not surprisingly was a flood of refugees, especially from El Salvador and Guatemala, northward to the United States. The neocon “success” in the 1980s, crushing progressive social movements and reinforcing the oligarchic controls, left most countries of Central America in the grip of corrupt regimes and crime syndicates, periodically driving more waves of what Reagan called “feet people” through Mexico to the southern U.S. border…..

  94. Dan Hayes says:
    @Moi

    Moi:

    Since the “Agree” button is inoperative let me register Agreement this way. And thanks.

  95. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    That Zionists and Nazi’s collaborated during the 30′s is not surprising. They collaborated in founding a Jewish colony in Palestine, which served the interests of both: it removed Jews from Europe, it created the earliest facts on the ground necessary for the establishment of the Jewish state.

    Once Germany was at war, further German collaboration with Zionists to move European Jews to Israel was blocked by the allies. A Nazi plan for the elimination of Jews by mass slaughter followed quite naturally. Hence Eichmann’s transformation from Zionist collaborator to Jewish exterminator.

    Also, quite naturally, therefore, Jews were ready to turn on Eichmann whose show trial, conviction and execution served the Zionist Holocaust extortion racket, which was directed not only at all Germans, who by virtue of their place of birth were held responsible even if born long after the event, but at all Europeans, both in Europe and throughout the World, who could be tarred with the same brush as the Germans, being both Christian and white.

    Jewish leaders, operating in accordance with the rules of real politic, seek the destruction of the European nations as racial and cultural entities, the easier for Jewish capital to exploit the people of Europe and its colonial extensions. The ruling elites in Europe, the US, etc., go along with the Zionist plan because they seek the destruction of the European peoples for their own reason, namely, to fulfill their goal of global governance, which requires open borders, and the inevitable impoverishment of the Western nations.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @Phil
  96. Sean says:

    Interesting article on a site with many informative blog posts by a historian http://colinshindler.com/articles/the-transition-from-left-to-right-in-israel/

    Shindler may be right that Begin was the leader under which a slide to the right (ie military Zionism) started, but it may also be relevant that President Carter had at Camp David taken the formidable Egyptian deterrent to Israel out of the equation, and so Begin was the first Israeli leader free to attack Lebanon. Shindler points out that Ariel Sharon was originally from the Labour party.

    http://colinshindler.com/book/the-triumph-of-military-zionism-nationalism-and-the-origins-of-the-israeli-right-paperback/

    Why did Israel shift from a state based on pioneering egalitarianism and ‘making the desert bloom’ to one which is chiefly known for its military prowess? ‘The Triumph of Military Zionism’ examines Israel’s shift to the right at the hands of Menachem Begin, the supposed ‘disciple’ of Vladimir Jabotinsky. Shindler’s book uses original research to challenge the conventional wisdom that Begin was the natural heir to Jabotinsky. He demonstrates through hitherto unpublished sources how Israel drifted away from Jabotinsky’s ideas towards a maximalist Zionism because Begin’s very selective interpretation of his mentor’s words did not reflect Jabotinsky’s intentions.

    A rather different view of Jabo

    Leo Strauss and the Politics of Exile: The Making of a Political Philosopher Eugene Sheppard – 2014

    Strauss recounted the “very honorable” but “merely formal or poor” content of political Zionism; that is, its lack of cultural sensibility and intellectual depth Struass one remembered when he met with the leader of the militant revisionists Vladimir Ze’ev Jabotinsky (1889 -1940), Jabotinsky was uninterested in the Bible, Jewish history, and even Zionist theory. Instead, Jabotinsky was only interested in whether there was rifle practice

  97. Heros says:
    @MoltonCore

    “The theme of many is that the extermination of Jews by Nazi Germany did not really happen.”

    ROFL. If the jews had been exterminated then there never would have been any survivors and no need for eternal reparations. Only a complete idiot can’t see that.

    “How does one explain the mountains of film I have seen depicting Soviet armies and American armies stumbling upon concentration camps with mountains of corpses littering the area, real ovens, and skeletal humans? Mass deportations by trains, etc.”

    You have no clue about reality and are blathering on about the kosher reality portrayed in Shindlers List. Speilberg has now been outed as being a child murdering pedophile, so I wouldn’t talk to much about such a pedophiles blatant propaganda if I were a jew. Besides, his pedophilia leaks out into every film he ever produced.

    “Perhaps the actual figure of 6 million may be in question due to an elevated body count as a Zionist invention for propaganda and financial benefits, but SOME shit was going on vis-a-vis the Jews in Europe.”

    Ursula Haverbeck is still in prison for expressing precisely that sentiment. The way you swing it around so non-chalantly can only be summed up with these words: jewish privilege.

    • Agree: Kolo
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @tac
  98. Art says:
    @APilgrim

    The PLO was ALWAYS a terrorist organization, in thrall to the USSR.

    Said by a Jew: “The Jew is a caricature of a normal, natural human being, both physically and spiritually. As an individual in society he revolts and throws off the harness of social obligation, knows no order nor discipline”?

    Is everything about APilgrim false, even his name – does he know no order nor discipline?

    He shows no obligation to social norms – he condemns his victim for being human and fighting back against Jew fascism.

    Clearly he is not one of us — JQ?

    Think peace — Do No Harm — Art

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  99. Art says:
    @MoltonCore

    but SOME shit was going on vis-a-vis the Jews in Europe.

    SOME shit is going on vis-a-vis the Palestinians in Palestine.

    We can do something about that latter.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. Two wrongs do not make a right – never have – never will.

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
  100. Goy Boy says:

    There is a parallel story of a book in America written to smoke screen for Israel after the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1968. The book was written by A. Jay Cristol, who was a judge in the Florida bankruptcy court. A volunteer, apparently, with no previous history of writing for Israel.

    https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Incident-Revealed-Definitive-Account/dp/1612513409

    The whole story is told very well at “If Americans Knew”:

    http://ifamericaknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty.html

  101. utu says:
    @Sumashik

    It was England and America where the operation Circumcise Them Goys was the most successful and where Jewish interest in carrying out this operation could have been successfully hidden behind alleged medical and health benefits.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @bj
  102. Anonymous[997] • Disclaimer says:
    @God Emperor Putin

    Yeah, except gay marriages performed in Canada were not recognized in the US. The Defense of Marriage Act prohibited it, and this prohibition was challenged and upheld by the Kandu case in Washington State.

    Try again.

    How much does Iran pay you these days to spend all day on the internet making up shit about Israel/Jews?

  103. @Israel Shamir

    Israel Shamir confirmed: “Censorship is working!”
    Hi Israel Shamir,
    …Yes, above, censors endowed with extraordinary power, indeed, such works!
    …Free speech is verboten, and as web sites are being liquidated, perhaps individual violators will be held accountable soon.
    …Thanks for the heads up, Israel!

  104. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    This well persuades me that Israel has (long since) out-Nazi’d Germany by a wide margin.

    Of course, you will get pilloried for saying any such thing. Maybe even jailed, in places like… Germany.

  105. @Art I know about the Palestinians and I support their cause, but my comment was aimed at holocaust denying trips, and in NO WAY to defend the Israelis, whom I have known for decades have a fascist state going

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  106. Moi says:
    @CanSpeccy

    They already have radically changed and destroyed what Europe and America used to be. From here on the noose will only tighten as long as the world tolerates them raising the anti-Semite charge so they can continue with their shenanigans.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  107. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Art

    So … Do we still believe all that stuff it’s a crime to contradict in much of Europe about that there Holocaust? The cornerstone of the “light unto the nations,” Israel?

    Fooled once …

    • Replies: @Art
  108. “Back in those long-gone days, the Gray Lady was strictly a black-and-white print publication, lacking the large color photographs of rap stars and long stories about dieting techniques that fill so much of today’s news coverage…”

    The New York Times way of declaring its own irrelevancy, beautifully captured by Mr. Unz.

  109. Phil says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Hitler said that a “final solution” would have to wait until after the war. Under Himmler’s direction, there is evidence for many thousands of shootings, but there is no reliable evidence for mass gassings.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @jilles dykstra
  110. renfro says:
    @mcohen

    So zionism is Nazism.well how come there are no Nazi symbols displayed in todays israel.

    Israel’s Star of David is seen by the world as the new symbol of the cult that aspires to be the Master Race.

  111. RJJCDA says:

    Mr. Unz, I would urge you to gather together your articles on this subject, edit them to make them seamless, quote more from the sources, and add footnotes for these sources, etc. It would make for an interesting and important book.

  112. @Drake Stone

    Hitler’s supposed Jewish ancestry was thoroughly researched going back centuries and was totally debunked.

    Not that the question is very important and matter anything for me, but you can find in The Telegraph the following article ( 24 Aug 2010) : “Hitler ‘had Jewish and African roots’, DNA tests show. Adolf Hitler is likely to have had Jewish and African roots, DNA tests have shown.”

  113. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Phil

    there is evidence for many thousands of shootings, but there is no reliable evidence for mass gassings.

    I made no mention of “gassings.” Hillberg estimated millions of open air shootings in Eastern Europe. Alexander Solzhenitsyn, likewise, estimated millions of Jews murdered in by the Germans in Eastern Europe, often with local support. For example of 80,000 Jews in Vilnius, Lithuania, it has been claimed that 72,000 were murdered:

    The German unit assigned to kill the Vilnius Jews was Einsatzkommando 9 of Einsatzgruppe B. By 23 July 1941 the Germans had assembled a Lithuanian auxiliary that marched columns of Jews from Vilnius to the nearby Ponary Forest. Jews were taken in groups of between 12 and 20 to the edge of pits, where they had to hand over valuables and clothes before they were shot. Some 72,000 Jews from Vilnius and elsewhere were murdered at Ponary (as were about 8,000 Poles and Lithuanians). Source

  114. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    I read that the main reason circumciion became universal in America is that the hospitals could charge the extra fee.

    • Replies: @Sumashik
  115. Art says:
    @Jett Rucker

    So … Do we still believe all that stuff it’s a crime to contradict in much of Europe about that there Holocaust? The cornerstone of the “light unto the nations,” Israel?

    Fooled once …

    I do not believe the “six million lie.” I also do not believe that nothing happened.

    Rousting people up out of their homes was wrong then, and it is wrong today in Palestine.

    The Jews show their degenerate nature and culture every day in Palestine.

    Clearly the political Talmudic Jews are the ultimate fascists – they hate everyone.

    Sadly, do to their own actions in the West and ME – the JQ is again on the table.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  116. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Moi

    They already have radically changed and destroyed what Europe and America used to be.

    At Unz.com “They” it seems, always refers to those devilish Jews.

    But is the destruction of Europe solely the work of Jews?

    Have the likes of Tony Blair, whose government opened the gates to a flood of immigrants “to rub the noses of the conservatives in multiculturalism” no responsibility?

    Or what of Angela Merkel, who seems to have no regrets over flooding Germany with Muslim rapists, and pseudo-refugees?

    Or Thereason May, attempting to negate the will of the people on Brexit?

    No. You cannot simply blame “Them.”

    Destroying the cohesion of the European peoples, indeed destroying the European peoples by suppressed reproduction and mass replacement immigration, is a key to the project for global governance, which means local democracy being superceded by rule of the Money power acting through super-national and global institutions such the EU, the UN, WTO, etc. Alal such institutions are beyond the control of the people, who, in any case, will no longer exist in fully a multi-culti society, where distinct racial and religious groups engage in an endless competition for dominance.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @hyperbola
  117. renfro says:

    Shamir and his small Zionist faction had become great admirers of the Italian Fascists and German Nazis, and after World War II broke out, they had made repeated attempts to contact Mussolini and the German leadership in 1940 and 1941, hoping to enlist in the Axis Powers as their Palestine affiliate, and undertake a campaign of attacks and espionage against the local British forces, then share in the political booty after Hitler’s inevitable triumph

    I was not aware of the Zionist effort to ally with fascist Mussolini but am not surprised.

    If you have researched the reasons one by one, for the many Jewish expulsions over the centuries you can see the Jews (Court Jews) tactic of aligning themselves with Kings, Queens, Rulers—whoever had the power and military force that they did not have.
    This is in many ways is like the sucker fish that attach themselves to larger fish like whales and sharks for protection and live by feeding on the pieces of the larger fish’s prey.

  118. @Heros

    What a coincidence: Rockwell was murdered by a communist jew!

    He was murdered by a former American Nazi Party member whose name was John Patler (born John Patsalos), whose parents were Greek.

    I used to see Rockwell frequently, as his headquarters was just a few blocks from my high school, and he was killed at the 7-Eleven I used to go to for refreshment after playing tennis.

    • Replies: @Heros
  119. renfro says:
    @Heros

    The issue here is that Judea wanted war after Hitler pried Germany out of their jew mind control orbit.

    Yes, they absolutely wanted the war. The US and British Jews had many opportunities to rescue the Jews…..but they refuse to what they called ‘ransom ‘ them from Hitler. Every time I hear some Jew blame America and everyone else I think about how they refuse to pay money for Jewish lives, even as they were raising millions to promote WWII and screeching about persecuted Jews.

    Rabbi Silver Indicates Need for Reconsidering Palestine Transfer

    https://www.jta.org/1936/01/16/archive/rabbi-silver-indicates-need-for-reconsidering-palestine-transfer

    [MORE]

    January 16, 1936

    CLEVELAND (Jan. 15)
    The suggestion that in view of reported proposals for transferring Jews from Germany with withdrawal of capital in the form of German goods, the Palestine transfer pact should be reconsidered was made by Rabbi Abba Hillel Silver in a statement.
    Rabbi Silver, who supported the Germany-Palestine transfer agreement at last Summer’s World Zionist Congress, declared that “in light of the new proposals which are now being made, which if carried into effect, will spell the doom of our concerted economic attack upon the Nazi regime, the Palestine transfer agreement itself night have to be reconsidered.
    He vigorously condemned proposals for mass emigration with an export tie-up, warning that “if the Nazis succeed in getting rid of the Jews themselves, if they succeed in strengthening their own regime with money expropriated from their Jewish subjects and with foreign exchange brought into Germany via Jewish deportations, will not their admirers and would-be imitators in the neighboring countries–in Austria, Poland, Hungary and Rumania and elsewhere–be encouraged and inspired to do the same?”
    He held that the ultimate solution of the problem of Jewish persecution is the overthrow of the Nazi regime. “The greatest service which can be rendered to the Jewish community in Germany and to Jewry throughout the world,” he stated, “is to concentrate every ounce of energy upon the successful prosecution of our war against Hitlerism, upon the outcome of which the political, economic and social security of fifteen million Jews in the Diaspora depends.
    He continued:
    “No effort, however, should be made and no institution should be established to facilitate and speed up Jewish emigration from Germany, and no ransom should be paid to their tormentors. The Jewish people should not be maneuvered by Hitler into becoming the sales agents and bankers to recoup the squandered fortunes of Germany and to rehabilitate its broken down domestic economy.”

    World Jewish Congress Rejects Schacht “ranson Plan,” Ethiopian Project

    January 17, 1939
    “”
    PARIS (Jan. 16)
    The World Jewish Congress Administrative Committee, concluding a three-day secret session, today went on record in opposition to the Schacht “ransom plan” of Jewish emigration from Germany and Jewish colonization in Ethiopia.
    A resolution adopted by the 40 delegates from various European countries said: “A solution of the German Jewish problem is not acceptable to the Jewish people if it rewards the Nazi regime with economic advantage in return for expropriation and expulsion. Similarly, the World Jewish Congress firmly rejects any proposal regarding Ethiopia because Jewish settlement in the territory of an anti-Semitic government such as Italy is inconceivable.”
    Other resolutions recommended that:
    (1) The World Jewish Congress, together with other Jewish organizations, convene a world conference on Jewish emigration with a view to creating a central organization empowered to negotiate with governments, on behalf of Jewry, on emigration problems;
    (2) The Intergovernmental Refugee Bureau establish contact with contact with central Jewish organizations for consultation of emigration from Germany;
    (3) The Jewish people refuse to cooperate with governments such as Poland and Rumania in organizing Jewish emigration as long as these countries do not recognize equality of Jewish rights.
    (4) The World Jewish Congress combat policies of Central and East European governments aiming at impoverishment of Jews to force their emigration, and conduct a fight until Jews’ equality of rights is restored.
    Commenting on the resolutions at a press conference tonight, Dr. Nahum Goldmann, chairman of the administrative committee, appealed to the world to protest against the “appalling situation of the Jews” in Central and Eastern Europe, where, he said “all human, legal and international obligations regarding the Jews have been disregarded.” He attacked the League of Nations as indifferent to the fate of the Jews in Danzig, which is under League supervision. He demanded that the League recall its High Commissioner from the Free City in protest against anti-Jewish measures.

    Times Criticizes Reich-inspired Plan to Transfer Jews
    January 8, 1936 5:00am
    Criticism of the reported plan to expatriate German Jews with the financial aid of British and American Jews by increasing German exports was voiced today in an editorial in the New York Times, which originally reported the plan from London yesterday. The scheme was scored as “further evidence of her (Germany’s) disregard of fundamental decency…

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  120. bj says:
    @utu

    Yes….Jews have always circumcised their slaves, hence the circumcision of American troops in WWII.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Anonymous
  121. @moltoncore

    ‘…the Israelis, whom I have known for decades have a fascist state going.

    Don’t smear the Fascists. Unlike Israel, there wasn’t a strong racist component to their ideology, unlike Israel, they actually came from the land they claimed, and unlike Israel, they actually managed to avoid attacking several of their neighbors. In fact, they didn’t attack anyone at all until 1935.

    Now, the Nazis — there’s a more appropriate analogy.

  122. renfro says:

    I like Ron’s investigations into Zionist Jews.
    But I would love to see him take on their current perfidies and maneuvers in some articles.

    Particularly the one Jared Kushner is carrying out now in regard to Palestine refugees……and link this to where it comes from…which is the plan Israel has had for some time.

    Kushner Pushes for Millions of Palestinians in Jordan to Lose Refugee Status
    Hopes to destroy UN Relief and Works Agency

    Jason Ditz/ Posted on August 5, 2018

    ‘Kushner, the son-in-law of President Trump, has been pushing the matter with Jordanian officials, trying to get the Jordan government to strip all refugee status recognition from the over two million Palestinians living there.

    The UNRWA has jurisdiction over in excess of five million Palestinian refugees across the region, with Jordan having the largest number. Refugee camps in Gaza and the West Bank hold another two million,and the rest are in Syria and Lebanon.

    Kushner says the UNRWA is corrupt and inefficient. He does not indicate what the US strategy would be beyond Jordan, though the ultimate goal appears to be eliminating all refugees’ status, under the assumption that this would mean the fate of refugees would no longer need to be addressed in peace talks.

    This was the same strategy attempted with the Jerusalem declaration, with Trump saying that his announcement eliminated it from the list of things that needed to be negotiated.’

    THIS is where the plan is laid out long ago:

    http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/hs_short_eng.htm
    UNRWA is an organization that perpetuates the Palestinian refugee problem. It is an anomalous organization which exists solely to deal with Palestinian refugees, while all the other refugees on the face of the globe are dealt with by the UN High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR).

    3. The organizations not only deal differently with the refugees under their auspices, they each have different definitions for classifying an individual as a “refugee”.

    4. This difference in definition has far-ranging consequences. For in contrast to the UNHCR definition, which results in a decline in the number of refugees over time, the UNRWA definition leads to an inflation of the number.

    5. In fact, if the UNHCR’s otherwise universal definition were applied to the Palestinian case, the number of refugees would decline from 4-5 million to 200-300,000 i.e. by over 90%!!

    6. It thus appears that UNWRA is perpetuating the very problem it was designed to eliminate.

    7. Accordingly, the dissolution of UNRWA is an essential prerequisite for any comprehensive, durable settlement of the Palestinian issue.’

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Art
  123. renfro says:
    @renfro

    I’ve got something to add to Trump being stupid enough to let his Jewish son in law (who really works for Netanyahu and Israel) run US policy on Israel.

    “Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease.
    Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental.
    In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.”

    ― Dietrich

    Kushner is evil, Trump is stupid…..so what we have in the US- ME and Israel Palestine peace arena is Stupid protecting Evil.

    Look for everything to go from worse to more worst.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  124. tac says:
    @RobinG

    RobinG

    I am not sure if you had a chance to view my reply to on the other Browder thread that raises some connections Browder has to some individuals, some of whom met their untimely deaths. In addition to those you may want to examine these:

    [MORE]

    Most readers will identify Bill Broder with Hermitage Capital, but few will recall that the investment firm was also funded by one Beny Steimetz, the Israeli oligarch and financier just arrested (August 14) by Israeli and Swiss anti-corruption officials for widescale fraud and money laundering. The Russia privatization shark who was once Israel’s richest man is a subject for another report. I only bring him up here to point at two facets of this war on Putin. First, the Jewish connection in all this is something that just needs to come out. Secondly, the ring of profiteers bent on Putin’s demise all have gigantic skeletons in their wardrobes. A story citing one Putin hater, when investigated, always leads to ten more. This is no coincidence

    https://m.journal-neo.org/2017/09/16/vladimir-putin-and-russia-versus-zionist-fairytales/

    • Replies: @annamaria
  125. utu says:
    @bj

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-anti-semitism-a-century-ago/#comment-2443744
    Gentile circumcision is very import issue for Jews. On one level it is a form of Jewish proselytism. But it is also a part of mimicry strategy to alter the host to render the drop-your-pants test useless. All ‘scientific’ articles about benefits of circumcision stem form Jewish interest. The alleged medical benefits if any are negligible.

    Michael Greenberg of TLS recalled how satisfied and gleeful his father was when as a medical doctor in the US Army he managed to persuade/trick almost the whole battalion to undergo a circumcision.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2bm036/why_did_the_marines_require_you_to_be_circumcised/

    During World War I, the military led a concerted effort to circumcise soldiers and sailors because it was believed that this would make them less susceptible to venereal disease; military discipline forced men to submit to a procedure they would never have agreed to had it been left to their own decision. Thousands of men were circumcised in their late teens and early 20s. When these men returned home and became fathers, doctors began asking whether they wanted their newborn sons circumcised. Many, remembering the pain that they or their buddies endured from the operation as adults, said yes, thinking it would avoid having to do it later, when the pain was thought to be worse than in infancy. Most babies, however, continued to be born at home and were not circumcised.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  126. APilgrim says:
    @Hunsdon

    Relevance, surely you jest.

    The PLO was driven from Jordan, for their violent, terroristic, trouble-making. The PLO was driven from Lebanon, for the same reason. … and the terrorists are going to court.

    [MORE]

    Last month, the PLO announced it would look into revoking its recognition of Israel until the latter recognises the State of Palestine on those borders. In a press release circulated after the meeting, the PLO said it had decided to request the ICC to “start a judicial inquiry into Israeli settlements, racial discrimination and the ongoing ethnic cleansing…” While Israel is not a party to the Rome Statute – the treaty of the ICC to which all members are bound to – its nationals could be tried by The Hague-based court for crimes committed on occupied Palestinian territory.

    NEWS/ ISRAELI–PALESTINIAN CONFLICT, Al Jazeera, PLO vows ‘to start disengaging from Israel’, 4 Feb 2018,

    • Replies: @Art
    , @annamaria
    , @Hunsdon
  127. Them Guys says:
    @Heros

    Its Basically like watching or reading about how when, two or more sub-groups of top mafia families vie for total control of, say, New York’s mob activities and cash profits from all combined illegal means done…..kinda like Zios= Al Capone Vs Marxist Jews=Bonnono crime family of NY…But no matter which mob family wins at end of battles and when enough top honchos have been “Hit” and are dead…The remaining members of all Mob Families concerned, go have a secret meeting at some Jew owned Vegas casino, and hammer out new details for a new better agreement of how all future profits will be split.

    And no matter what happens, or how many get killed off, or what costs are, none of the members of any mob family has a problem with it. As long as…”Is it Good for Mob Families”? the answer is always, Yes. If Yes answer is agreed upon by all concerned mob members or leaders, then all go back to maintaining a very friendly basis among all family mobs and “made” members.

    Just substitute word of Mob and Family for Jew and Jew’s…Substitute the word Crime or criminals for “Jewish Political Org/group” and always end with…”But..Is It Good for, Jews”? if Yes…Continue on as they were and keep inventing and funding more and more Think Tanks and tax free Orgs. Devoted to finding yet more ways and methods for international Jewry to steal or swindle more shekels $$$, and do even better jobs at wrecking and ruining as many Goyim Gentile run and populated Countries that exist….and do so as fast as possible while accumulating the biggest $$$ amounts Jewry can amass….Then wash–rinse–repeat cycle over again until every nation other than Israel, has been totally Bled Dry…

    Remember of critical importance for Jewry agendas is that, the Blood Lust is a two way street of sort’s…One form Blood Lust being blood of goyims sacrificed…The second Blood lusting is for the National Blood of every nation, which is it’s Money, for like a human or an animal that requires flowing blood to remain alive…So to does every Nation require Cash Money to continue to always Flow as its Life Blood, or that Nation shall Die Via being first paralyzed, and then dying once that cash/life blood flow is completely exhausted and safely in the pockets or accounts of Jew’s.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  128. Benedetti says:

    You write:
    the commemorative medal struck by Nazi Germany to mark its Zionist alliance, with a Star-of-David on the front face and a Swastika on the obverse.

    The front face is the obverse. Perhaps you meant “reverse.” But in photos of coins the obverse is usually on the left, reverse on the right.

  129. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @bj

    Yes….Jews have always circumcised their slaves, hence the circumcision of American troops in WWII.

    • Philippians 3:3 “For it is we who are the circumcision.”
    • Ephesians 6:6 “As slaves of Jewchrist.”
    • 1 Peter 2:16 “You are Jewgod’s slaves.”

    You’re onto something there, bj.

  130. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Can you briefly describe what happened in the case of Canada, renowned for its Nazi past, and why Canada is currently the host of celebrities like war criminal Hashim Thaci, and also the host of powerful neo-nazi supporting lobbys (calling for more weapons and violence in, for example, the Ukraine, Georgia, or Kosovo). Camada is a Britsh colony.

    Also the following text relates the creation of Israel to their bankers, and is a nice complement to your excellent piece.

    Thank you,

    ”The Balfour Declaration justified the brutal seizure of Palestinian lands for the post-WWII establishment of Israel. Israel would serve, not as some high-minded “Jewish homeland”, but as lynchpin in Rothschild/Eight Families control over the world’s oil supply. Baron Edmond de Rothschild built the first oil pipeline from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean to bring BP Iranian oil to Israel. He founded Israeli General Bank and Paz Oil and is considered the father of modern Israel.”

    “The Rothschilds are the planet’s wealthiest clan, worth an estimated $100 trillion. They control Royal Dutch/Shell, BP, Anglo-American, BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto, Bank of America and scores of other global corporations and banks. They are the largest shareholders in the Bank of England, the Federal Reserve and most every private central bank in the world. They needed a footprint in the Middle East to protect their new oil concessions, which they procured through Four Horsemen fronts like the Iranian Consortium, Iraqi Petroleum Company and Saudi ARAMCO.”

    ”Rothschild’s Shell and BP formed these cartels with the Rockefeller half of the Four Horsemen- Exxon Mobil and Chevron Texaco. This new alliance required a “special relationship” between Great Britain and the US, which still exists today. Rothschild and other wealthy European shareholders could now utilize the United States military as a Hessianized mercenary force, deployed to protect their oil interests and paid for by US taxpayers. Israel would serve the same purpose in closer proximity to the oilfields. The Israeli Mossad is less a national intelligence agency than it is a Rothschild/Rockefeller family security force.”

    Excerpts from Illuminati, Nazis & The Illegal State of Israel

    https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2014/09/20/illuminati-nazis-the-illegal-state-of-israel/

  131. I am fascinated by the painstaking details with which the author alerts, informs and regales his reader; however, the behavior of Jews oughtn’t come as a great surprise, for the leadership has only one goal for the last two millennia: how do we survive and prosper as Jews and only as Jews in the sea of humanity? And it’s that obsession which guides all their actions, good, bad or ugly, for in their minds, they are doing God’s bidding.

    • Replies: @Phil
  132. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys

    If those sneaky Jews are devoted to finding yet more ways and methods for international Jewry to steal or swindle more shekels $$$, what should we do with the Jewish propaganda that is shoved into innocent children’s hands to read in Sunday School?

    “For if the Gentiles/Goyim have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to $$$ share with them their material blessings $$$.” (Romans 15:27)

    Luckily, I’m not finding greedy Jewish propaganda in so many hotel room top dresser drawers any more. Which is a blessing, of the non-jewish sort, I guess.

  133. Phil says:
    @CanSpeccy

    The Guardian article does not tell readers how the 72,000 number was derived. Likewise, Hilberg and Solzhenitsyn are not very able to support claims of “millions” killed. It is important to note, as The Guardian does, the role of local Eastern European people in the killings as well as the role played by Soviet forces. As for the German Einsatzgruppen killings of Jews, estimates vary substantially. I’m inclined to believe that they were the largest part of what can be called a holocaust. I’m glad that you do not endorse “mass gassing” claims.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  134. Phil says:
    @Dagon Shield

    Most Jews nowadays are very secular.

    • Replies: @Dagon Shield
  135. I read these astounding revelations with mouth open.
    What power these people have! Who gets this kind of power in this world? I can only attribute it to Satan, the god of this world who has dominion over it.
    I would like to point out one item that, as an Armenian, I found extremely interesting. During the Armenian Genocide, which was “turned a blind eye to” at best and facilitated and learned from at worst by the German military in the Ottoman Empire; the FIRST stage that was implemented was to FORBIDE Armenian men from participating in the army; thus depriving them of a source of weapons and making it easy to exterminate them early.
    How curious, that Hilter, who infamously was quoted as saying “After all, who remembers the Armenians” and his senior generals, mostly veterans of WWI with some in the Ottoman theatre, would actually encorporate Jewish men into their army? Other aspects of the Genocide were indeed incorporated, such as transporting “refugees” by railroad to their deaths and gassing people alive (though with fire not synthetic chemicals). Something fishy going on here and I can’t explain it, other than good Jew-bad Jew analogy which would include turning a blind eye to systematic killing of fellow co religionists.

    • Replies: @Wally
  136. for the Zionist wing of European Jewry, the Nazi movement was a godsend and they played it like a violin:

    1. by the late 1920′s, the Zionist-Jew colonization of Palestine was going nowhere; in fact, during 1928-29, the Jewish population of Palestine fell from something like 34,000 to 29,000.

    2. at the same time, the Nazis in Germany were having severe electoral and financial difficulties. Looking for a force to drive Jews out of Europe and into Palestine, Berlin Jew banksters bailed out the Nazi Party, even paying overdue rent on the Brown House, the Party HQ.

    3. then along came the Great Depression, and both Zionists and Nazis were back in business…together. As Unz describes, the liberal-left wing of organized Jewry attempted to strangle the newborn Nazi regime in its crib via an international boycott of German exports, but the more powerful Zionist wing stepped in, broke the boycott, and arranged the Transfer Agreement: by which the Nazi economy revived and scores of thousands of German Jews – along with plenty of equipment and capital – poured into Palestine. A number of SS-officers (including Eichmann himself) visited Palestine during the mid-1930′s to observe and facilitate Jewish resettlement there.

    4. by the later 1930′s, though, the Transfer Agreement had about run out of gas. So Zion shifted gears and went from cooperation to conflict in an effort to increase Nazi emigration pressure on German (and now Austrian) Jews. Zionist terrorists carried out a series of attempted and actual assassinations of German officials and non-German Nazis; the best known hits were on Swiss Nazi Wilhelm Gustloff in 1936 and, in 1938, on vom Rath in Paris…the latter of which precipitated (exactly as intended) the so-called Krystallnacht Pogrom in Germany. After which tens of thousands more central European Jews headed for Palestine.

    5. 1939-41: with the onset of the European War, Hitler warns – in at least 4 major public speeches and through diplomatic channels – that if “International Jewry” escalates the war to a point where Germany is once again unable to win, he will “annihilate the Jews” of Europe. A botched attempt at deterrent diplomacy, because this is all music to Zionist ears. They already have sufficient Jewish bodies in Palestine to carry spears against the Arabs; in Churchill they have a loyal, bought-and-paid for servant; and even have a goal seek for dead (and otherwise useless) diaspora Jews: the mythic “6 million”, a number evoked many times in the Jews’ long narrative of victimization.

    6. Churchill, the consummate shabbatz goy, gets right down to cases. in April 1940, he sends in destroyers to mine Norwegian coastal channels in an effort to cut off Germany’s supply of Swedish iron ore; Hitler responds by seizing Norway. In the spring of 1941, after Greece has defeated an Italian attack (done by Mussolini w/o an OK from Hitler), Churchill has hit-man Anthony Eden pay a visit to Greek leader Metaxas in Athens. During dinner, Eden offers “military aid” to Greece. Metaxas: “thanks, but no thanks”. A few hours later, Metaxas “dies of a heart attack”. A puppet regime is quickly set up, and “invites” British intervention; Empire troops then occupy Greece, and the RAF begins building air bases within range of the Rumanian oil-fields, Germany’s only major source of oil. Getting even more ambitious, Brit intel overthrows the coalition government in Yugoslavia – then on friendly terms with Germany – and a cabal of Serbian generals seize power. Having taken enough crap from Churchill and his (((handlers))), Hitler counter-attacks, seizing both Yugolslavia and Greece.

    7. the Russo-German War. Rear-area security police units – Einsatzgruppe and Ordnungspolizei – immediately begin rounding up and killing communists and the Reds’ principal demographic base – Jews – throughout western Poland, as well as newly occupied areas of the Baltic States, White Russia, and the Ukraine. Most of the actual triggermen are recruited from the local populations who are, with sufficient reason, intensely anti-Jewish. By the end of 1941 some 600,000 local Jews have been shot, with daily and weekly totals reported back to Berlin…in many cases, via encrypted radio-signals. Signals immediately intercepted and de-crypted by Brit intel, then marked “secret” and filed away. Some of these documents bear the initials “WS”, indicating that Churchill and his Zionist handlers were well aware of the anti-Jew bloodbath…and had not the slightest objection. After all, the higher the Jewish body count in WW2 Europe, the more grease for the skids of a postwar Israel-in-Palestine project.

    8. during the winter of 1941-42 the Jew-kill tails off as the Nazi regime – always a bureaucratic chaos of competing fiefdoms – hashes out the JQ and what to do about it. The end result is the Wannsee Conference, before which the Military and Civilian economic agencies, who want to keep Jews alive as forced labor, and the SS and Police agencies, who want to kill as many Jews as possible as fast as possible for reasons both ideological and security-related, clash openly. The net result is a pie-in-the-sky death schedule for some 11,000,000 Jews, most of whom (British Jews, Russian Jews, etc.) are already forever beyond the Nazi reach…while one large group that can easily be bagged by giving Rommel secure supply lines and a real force, the several hundred thousand mostly German Jews now camped out in Palestine, are somehow left off the target list. Operationally, the forced labor advocates win a clear-cut victory, with most accessible European Jews scheduled for deportation to labor camps in Poland….principally Auschwitz, but many others as well.

    9. this is bad news for the Brit Zionists, and they know about it almost immediately via Himmler’s intel agents in Switzerland, who are in day-to-day contact with MI6. What to do? Well, the late 1930′s assassination campaign worked well, so how about another? It happens that most of the Third Reich’s leaders have pretty good security…but there’s one who doesn’t: Reinhard Haydrich, head of SS Intel/CounterIntel. He’s also the Nazi satrap in Bohemia-Moravia, and spends a lot of time driving about Prague in an open car with literally no security; partly because he’s getting along fine with the Czechs (which enrages the Czech exiles in London), and also due to a tormented, death-seeking psyche: Heydrich is obsessed with his own possible Jewishness. Soon enough Czech exile and Zionist terror vectors converge, and in early June, 1942, Heydrich is hit. According to depositions from Czech doctors, Heydrich spends his 9-day-long death agony groaning about having “murdered my own people”. That in turn re-invigorates the death bureaucracy, somewhat to the detriment of the forced-labor advocates; quickly improvised, primitive killing centers at Treblinka (north of Warsaw), Sobibor (in eastern Poland), and Belzec (in Galician Poland) swing into action. A December, 1942, Brit Intel radio-telephone intercept/decrypt pegs the number of mostly-Polish Jews killed at Belzec as 432,000, at Sobibor as 168,000, and Treblinka (possibly a garbled #, as many other sources give the number of Warsaw Jews deported to Treblinka by this time as more than 300,000) as 70,000. In the occupied areas of the Red Empire meanwhile, SS and Police anti-partisan units round and shoot some 363,000 Jews during August-November, 1942; this via the report from Pruetzmann, one of the Higher SS&Police Leaders.

    10. During all of which, Zionist-controlled ghetto-governments throughout Europe collaborate with the Nazis in deporting Jews from the “lower orders” to the camps, all in an effort – sometimes successful, sometimes not – to save their own hides; while Zionist agents external to Europe intervene repeatedly to squelch Jewish escape along any but a relatively narrow, sub rosa channel leading to Palestine. In one dramatic 1942-43 instance, after coaxing 1,000 wealthy Warsaw Jews out of hiding in the “Aryan” part of the city by floating various foreign passports via Jewish gestapo agents, the Nazis attempt to exchange these Jews with Allied powers interning Axis civilians. Sabotaged by Zion, the negotiations drag on for months but go nowhere. Finally the Nazis give up, and all, well, almost all, of these 1,000 Jews are sent to Auschwitz and shot. All except for 27…who hold British mandate passports to Palestine. They…survive.

    11. all good, from the Zionist viewpoint. But still nowhere near the 6 million goal-seek. And, during the winter months of 1942-43, just as in 1941-42, the extermination stalls and the forced labor advocates ( much empowered by the German defeat at Stalingrad) once again get the upper hand. In fact Reichsfuehrer-SS Himmler, with political cover from Goebbels, attempts to revive the pre-War Lublin Reservation Plan: by which most of Europe’s remaining Jews would be resettled in the Lublin district of Eastern Poland. As a first consignment, the remaining 35,000 or so Jews of the Warsaw ghetto are, in April of 1943, sent to labor camps in this area: some to the already-existing camp at Maidanek, and the rest – mostly the wealthy, privileged, Zio-collaborationist Chlodno and Sienna Street Jews – to newly established and (relatively speaking) liveable camps at Trawnicki and Poniatowa. No good, from the Zionist viewpoint who, once again, are well-informed as to what is going on. So far the # of European Jews who have perished in ghettos, open air shootings, and camps is still way short of the 6 million goal-seek…in fact well short of half that.

    12. Once again, what to do? The external Zionists are fresh out of Nazi leaders to assassinate…so…how about masses of German civilians? That might work, and does. In August Churchill orders the first of the great, multi-thousand plane incendiary bombing attacks on German cities. At Hamburg 42,000 German civilian men, women, and children are massacred in a matter of hours. Goebbels, enraged, goes to the Berlin Sports Palace and, in a major public speech, strips away Himmler’s political cover and demands “tit-for-tat retaliation against the Jews.” A # which coincidentally converges nicely with the number of Jews now interned in the Lublin labor camps. But Himmler balks, because he is still looking for a way to save his own postwar skin and, indeed, has been assured by Brit Intel that this will be the case if he contrives to kill off Hitler and, via the SS parallel state, seize control of Germany. Then in September-October, the Lublin camp Jews precipitate their own fate by making contact with communist partisans operating in the adjacent forests, and attempt to bait them into attacking the camps by stockpiling weapons and ammunition. Nothing comes of the contacts, and Himmler, now perceiving a security issue, folds and issues orders to liquidate the camps. During the attendant mass executions, which take place over a two-day span, some 42,000 Jews and Jewesses are, indeed, shot.

    13. 1944. Zio-Nazi collaboration continues, with the well-known Kastner episode. In brief, Kastner – a slippery, high-powered Budapest lawyer with pre-existing Nazi contacts – negotiates a deal directly with Eichmann by which he, his family and relatives, and hundreds of other wealthy Budapest Zionists along with their families, will get a special train taking them to Switzerland…with later transit to Palestine. The hundreds of thousands of provincial Hungarian Jews are, with additional Zionist help, entrained to Auschwitz where, the labor camp having now reached capacity, most are gassed or shot.

    14. Postwar. The Zio-terrorists in Palestine, now armed to the teeth and with numerical superiority over the fragmented Arab armies, put Israel on the map…aided, of course, by a $2,000,000 bribe to someone whose initials are H.S.T. When the Kastner imbroglio goes public in the mid-1950′s, he’s quickly silenced by (yettanother) hit. To further the cover-up, former good-buddy Eichmann is roped-in and duly lynched, followed by a massive (((MSM))) propaganda campaign in Europe and America which morphs the Zionists from what they were, a gang of Nazi stooges and collaborators, into the “heroic defenders of the Jewish people”. Which, of course, they remain to this day.

  137. Art says:
    @renfro

    Kushner Pushes for Millions of Palestinians in Jordan to Lose Refugee Status
    Hopes to destroy UN Relief and Works Agency

    renfro,

    This must be addressed – how is the world going to see America as a result of this heavy-handed maneuver. Disenfranchising millions of people is totally wrong.

    Live with the Jews die with the Jews – Trump is a fool.

    I am beginning to think that Trump is just a hopeless sucker!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  138. Art says:
    @APilgrim

    Here is APilgrim at most moral truthful self.

    The United States of America, have owed Iran a thermonuclear attack, since November 4, 1979.

    Iranians stormed the U.S. embassy in Tehran, took hostage all 63 Americans inside and demanded the U.S. deliver the Shah, who had recently been overthrown and was in the USA, for medical treatment. An attempt to rescue the hostages by force failed. After 444 tense days (November 4, 1979 – January 21, 1981 ), the American hostages were freed minutes after Ronald Wilson Reagan was inaugurated as president.

    I fully support thermonuclear attacks upon Muhammadan Caliphates in Tehran & elsewhere.

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/anglozionist-attack-options-against-iran/#comment-2449147

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
  139. @MoltonCore

    There’s no question that Hitler and the National Socialists rounded up Jews (after first giving them the option to leave, including to Palestine) and put them in labour (“concentration”) camps. And after the allies bombed German supply lines, medical aid and food were cut off from the camps and typhus and starvation set in, hence the skeletal bodies we’ve all seen.

    But so much of the rest of the story simply doesn’t add up. If you’re so inclined, I recommend this video which debunks a lot of the “death camp” myths

    • Replies: @L.K
  140. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    said:
    “7. the Russo-German War. Rear-area security police units – Einsatzgruppe and Ordnungspolizei – immediately begin rounding up and killing communists and the Reds’ principal demographic base – Jews – throughout western Poland, as well as newly occupied areas of the Baltic States, White Russia, and the Ukraine. Most of the actual triggermen are recruited from the local populations who are, with sufficient reason, intensely anti-Jewish. By the end of 1941 some 600,000 local Jews have been shot, with daily and weekly totals reported back to Berlin…in many cases, via encrypted radio-signals. Signals immediately intercepted and de-crypted by Brit intel, then marked “secret” and filed away. Some of these documents bear the initials “WS”, indicating that Churchill and his Zionist handlers were well aware of the anti-Jew bloodbath…and had not the slightest objection. After all, the higher the Jewish body count in WW2 Europe, the more grease for the skids of a postwar Israel-in-Palestine project.”

    Complete nonsense, laughable easily debunked propaganda. I challenge Haxo Angmark to present proof.
    Show us these ‘decrypted radio signals’, show us the alleged vast human remains, see * below.

    Also note that not a single British Bletchley Park intercept of secret German messages to and from Auschwitz and the other so called ‘death camps’ ever mention gas chambers, killing Jews, or anything holocaust-like.

    see: British Decrypts: http://whatreallyhappened.info/decrypts/ww2decrypts.html
    and: German Labour camps – shocking truth decrypts / Jew transits: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7298

    * Per their alleged ‘Holocaust by bullets’ the ‘holocau$t’ Industry now claims that ca. 2,000,000 Jews were shot by the Einsatzgruppen into huge pits, so, anyone, please SHOW us the actual excavations, the enormous mass graves, & remains that are claimed to exist, their locations are allegedly known.
    Is that:
    100 graves of 20,000?
    200 graves of 10,000?
    400 graves of 5,000?
    500 graves of 4,000?
    1000 graves of 2000?
    2000 graves of 1000?

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    , @Heros
  141. Wally says:
    @General Koofta

    said:
    “How curious, that Hilter, who infamously was quoted as saying “After all, who remembers the Armenians” and his senior generals, mostly veterans of WWI with some in the Ottoman theatre ….”

    Except Hitler never said that and you have no proof that he did.

    Nuremberg fake document L-3 is the source of many statements attributed to Hitler, particularly “who today remembers the fate of the Armenians?” and “our enemies are little worms, I saw them at Munich”. ‘Hitler’ also compares himself to Genghis Khan and says he will exterminate the Poles, and kick Chamberlain in the groin in front of the photographers. The document appears to have been prepared on the same typewriter as many other Nuremberg documents, including the two other versions of the same speech. This typewriter was probably a Martin from the Triumph-Adler-Werke, Nuremberg.

    More on ‘document’ manipulation at Nuremberg by expert Carlos Porter:
    Not Guilty at Nuremberg: http://www.cwporter.com/innocent.htm
    and:
    The ‘Who Remembers Armenians’ Lie Debunked / forgery

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=943

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  142. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    many of part-Jews interviewed by Rigg recalled that prior to Hitler’s rise to power, the intermarriage of their parents had often provoked much greater hostility from the Jewish rather than the Gentile side of their families, suggesting that even in heavily-assimilated Germany, the traditional Jewish tendency toward ethnic exclusivity had still remained a powerful factor in that community.

    Ron,

    It may bear mentioning that a number of Jewish groups in Germany supported the Nuremberg Laws when they set forth. Perhaps that legal project even drew its spiritual inspiration from Judaism.

  143. Anon[151] • Disclaimer says:

    and then suddenly being transformed into a mass-murderer of the European Jews in the early 1940s, willingly committing the monstrous crimes for which the Israelis later justly put him to death.

    Did Eichmann kill anyone, or order anyone killed?

  144. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.

    –David Ben-Gurion, attributed by Martin Gilbert in “Israel was everything” in The New York Times (21 June 1987)

  145. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s worth pointing out that described abstractly, Zionism and Nazism are ideologically very similar.

    No so much. Germany mostly wanted sovereignty for ethnically indigenous German lands. Zionism sought to conquer and expel a native people and replace them with Jews.

    • Replies: @siberiancat
  146. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    Maybe Balfour was just trying to desperately justify his declaration as being in the British people’s best interests.

  147. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Is it possible that some Jewish groups encouraged German ethnic nationalism in order to incentivize Jewish Germans to emigrate to Palestine? (We know that some Jewish groups supported the Nuremberg Laws.)

  148. Anon[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    False. Those marriages are recognized in Israel. As with gay marriages, they have to be performed abroad, usually in Cyprus, but they are recognized nonetheless.

    So in other words, Gentiles are not permitted to marry Jews in Israel. Thanks for playing.

  149. @Wally

    re the Brit Intel (and other) intecepts/decrypts, cf.:

    Richard Breitman: Offficial Secrets – What the Nazis Planned, What the British and Americans Knew (NY, 1998)

    Robert Hanyok: Eavesdropping on Hell – Historical Guide to Western Communications Intelligence and the Holocaust, 1939-1945 (NSA, Washington DC, 2011)

    as to the “lack” of mass graves: successive Jewish sonderkommandos, recruited in Auschwitz, were during 1943-44 trucked to most of the larger mass shooting sites; there they dug up and cremated the rotting corpses, after which they too were shot. Just as Jew SK’s did @ Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and elsewhere. A few SK survivors have since been been interviewed or written up their own accounts; I’ve studied them and judge them largely factual. You don’t? I care less…people who put an agenda – in your case, anti-Jew – above raw facticity are beneath contempt. I share that agenda…but facts rule.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Wally
    , @Mulegino1
    , @L.K
  150. Anon[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The perp raped a girl with Down’s Syndrome, and rather than forcing her to testify about the details, the prosecutor charged him with the common-law offense of rape by deception.

    If she didn’t consent to sex, why didn’t the prosecutor simply charge the Gentile with rape due to lack of consent, either straightforwardly or because she had Down’s Syndrome.

    If she did consent to sex, what was the Gentile’s crime?

  151. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Jews were taken in groups of between 12 and 20 to the edge of pits, where they had to hand over valuables and clothes before they were shot. Some 72,000 Jews from Vilnius and elsewhere were murdered at Ponary (as were about 8,000 Poles and Lithuanians).

    Have the corpses been recovered?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  152. Anon[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Jews should pay reparations to the Palestinians.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @annamaria
  153. @CanSpeccy

    Of course the Germans did it.
    The truth is quite different, Lithuanians killed their jews before the arrival of the Germans.
    The reason: economic exploitation of Lithuanians by jews.
    Present Lithuanians do not want to discuss their jewish history, as a foreigner living in Lithuania, who speaks the language, told me.
    When UNESCO wanted to give money for the restauration of the Vilnius ghetto, very small, I saw it, the question was asked in the Lithuanian parliament ‘if the Lithuanians again should be the slaves of the jews ?’.
    Pictures of jews being beaten to death in Lithuania by Lithuanians you find in
    Christopher R. Browning, ‘Ordinary Men, Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland’, 1992, 2001, London
    That each Lithuanian village killed their jews:
    Dan Jacobson, ‘Heschel’s Rijk, Familiekroniek’, Amsterdam, 1998
    The slavery question:
    Lonely Planet Guide ‘Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania’, Nicola Williams, Debra Herrmann, Cathryn Kemp, 2003, Victoria, Australia.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  154. @Phil

    Indeed, the Final Solution was deporting all jews to Madagaskar
    Hans Jansen, ‘Der Madagaskar Plan, Die beabsichtigte Deportation der europäischen Juden nach Madagaskar’, München 1997
    Jansen cooperates with the Wiesenthal center in Brussels

    • Replies: @Anon
  155. @Wally

    I mentioned the book because it describes the mid thirties measures by Hungary against jews.
    They, for example, were no longer allowed to work at newspapers.
    What was not expected that no newspaper could be published any more.
    The book by Schorsch is similar, it contains statistics that show how the few percent of the German jews had 50% or so of German intellectual professions, especially in urban areas, medical doctors, university professors, lawyers, judges.
    I do not remember statistics about economic activities of jews.

    The asserted deportation of Hungary’s jews in two months in mid 1944, experts explain that it was logistically impossible, certainly for Eichmann and his fifty or so men, even with full cooperation of Hungarian police.
    The railway system could not have done it.
    On top of that, in mid 1944 war transport was of prime importance.

  156. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    The notion that an American with any appreciable trace of African, Japanese, or for that matter Chinese ancestry might serve as a general or even an officer in the U.S. military and thereby exercise command authority over white American troops would have been almost unthinkable.

    Uh … Captain Frances B. Wai.
    From his Medal of Honor citation:
    Captain Wai landed at Red Beach, Leyte, in the face of accurate, concentrated enemy fire from gun positions advantageously located in a palm grove bounded by submerged rice paddies. Finding the first four waves of American soldiers leaderless, disorganized, and pinned down on the open beach, he immediately assumed command. Issuing clear and concise orders, and disregarding heavy enemy machine gun and rifle fire, he began to move inland through the rice paddies without cover. The men, inspired by his cool demeanor and heroic example, rose from their positions and followed him. During the advance, Captain Wai repeatedly determined the locations of enemy strong points by deliberately exposing himself to draw their fire. In leading an assault upon the last remaining Japanese pillbox in the area, he was killed….
    I might add that lots of American Indians served in our armed forces during World War II, including perhaps the most famous ship captain of them all, Commander Ernest E. Evans.

  157. @Dan Hayes

    Well, he just posted Mein Kampf to the page. Maybe after he reads it he can write a review of it.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  158. @Heros

    They are counting on people’s short memories. Like G.W. Bush’s inarticulate but truthful,”Gotta repeat, to catapult the propaganda” statement.

    Hitler noted the same thing, writing in MK how he would spend hours arguing with Jews in Vienna, thinking he had finally make some point, only to have the Jews completely forget the point made the next day.

    • Replies: @Art
  159. Vojkan says:
    @renfro

    Even though I bear in mind that Dietrich Bonhoeffer was talking about the rise of nazism, I can’t help but think of “progressives” when I read that statement.

  160. Heros says:
    @for-the-record

    “He was murdered by a former American Nazi Party member whose name was John Patler (born John Patsalos), whose parents were Greek.”

    That is the kosher narrative, but the entire story is fake. First of all, Patler never confessed, and no real motive was ever found.

    There are indications that the ADL was involved, and Patler had expensive and extensive legal representation. He was expelled from party for bolshevism.

  161. Vojkan says:

    I happen to have read “Zionism in the Age of the Dictators” by Lenni Brenner in the early 1990s, during the war in the former Yugoslavia.
    Putting aside the author’s obvious leftist leanings, the book was so well documented that it really upset the vision I had of the “Holocaust”, which was referred to by elder French Jews with the Hebrew word Shoah, the great catastrophe, rather than the Greek word Holocaust, which means the ritual sacrifice of a victim to the Gods by whole burning, usually an animal, but in some versions that was the fate of Iphigenia too.
    Can a genocide be a ritual sacrifice? How many other ritual sacrifices have been offered to the god of Zionism?

  162. @Haxo Angmark

    That’s a coherent account without internal problems that make so many comments incredible. So…. can you suggest a book saying all that and including all, the links/sources/footnotes/references that a sceptical researcher might want to check?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @Haxo Angmark
  163. APilgrim says:
    @Art

    Pilgrim is a Lutheran, Choctaw, born in Texas, living in the Lone Star State.

    So, there’s that.

  164. Heros says:
    @Wally

    You have to admit that Haxo has spun quite a story, completely laced with disinformation. This is typical Hasbara stuff. Interesting how he mixes provocative red-pill truths with typical yid lies. History could be beautiful like a clear mountain stream of truth, but for thousands of years jews have been crapping in every pool in order to poison the clear waters of truth. As they say:

    In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

    Jews have been deliberately blinding Christians with layer upon layer of lies for over a thousand years. They are the one eyed man who knows the real truth, and they have poisoned it the same way they poison wells: with genocides, murders, double crosses, frauds, and child torture. Christians cannot fathom how depraved these jews are.

  165. Anon[209] • Disclaimer says:

    As one of those fascinated to discover what Ron will turn up next from his archive and his sharp and fertile brain I don’t detect his going beyond sceptical agnosticism on Ukraine related issues so as to plump for the Russian faction’s association of Ukraine with Nazis and neocons. But I would like to think that the honest testimony of a retired Australian professor friend of mine who was born to a Ukrainian Catholic family might carry some weight. He has written on Australian military history as well as lectured to Russian and Ukrainian speaking graduate students in Kiev so, when Ukraine attracts my limited interest, I trust him as a good source. I sent him a link to

    The Economist | The dark operetta https://www.economist.com/news/europe/21747343-eight-months-election-country-remains-filthy-politics-surpasses-satire-ukraine?frsc=dg%7Ce

    and asked for his comment. He replued as follows (I like particularly his common sense “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” in reference to old stories of, inter alia, Zionist attempts to get German assistance in ousting the British):

    Greetings from Poltava. We are visting X ‘s family, which lives literally across the road from the field of the famous Battle of Poltava, 1709, between Charles XII & Mazepa (Sweden & Ukraine), and Tsar Peter I of Muscovy (he changed the name to “Russia” in 1721, having appropriated the name “Ruski” that Ukrainians had used since the middle ages). The name change and everything since was determined by that battle.

    Turning to your question about current events in Kyiv, which we return to tomorrow, it is no secret that Ukraine is still a very corrupt place. It is chaotically corrupt, as opposed to the organised corruption of Russia. The fact that such programs critical of the president and government exist in Ukraine, and are impossible in Russia, is an indicator of the difference between these countries. Another is the fact that the outcome of the 2019 presidential election in Ukraine is genuinely unknown. That can’t be said about countries like Russia, China, Hungary, Turkey, North Korea, Venezuela etc. The thing about Ukrainians that separates them from those countries is that they don’t rally around a dictator (which Yanukovych didn’t understand).

    What the Economist article doesn’t mention is the raft of real reforms that have been undertaken in Ukraine since the ouster of Yanukovych. For obvious reasons the army has gone from one of the weakest in Europe to one of the strongest. But there has also been progress in health, led by acting minister Dr Ulana Suprun (who is an American), and is being supported by the (Jewish) Ukrainian PM Volodymyr Groysman against vested corrupt interests. There is clearly a long way to, as the fiasco with NABU demonstrates. You can’t change a corrupt culture overnight. But there is hope that this can be done incrementally with the IMF keeping Ukraine on a short leash with respect to monetary support.

    Regarding the other Ron Unz article you sent, I have been aware for decades about the fleeting attempts of Zionists to collaborate with Nazi Germany. This is nothing but “My enemy’s enemy is my friend”, which nationalists practice with monotonous regularity. The Zionists wanted Germany to defeat the United Kingdom, just as Ukrainian nationalists wanted Germany to defeat the USSR, just as Indonesian nationalists wanted Imperial Japan to defeat the Dutch colonial masters. In all three cases, once the attacking power made its move it, it hunted down, incarcerated and murdered the said nationalists, and they turned against it.

    Then there is Ron Unz’s usual uninformed snipe at Ukraine, this time in the form of revealing to us the existence of a strange Jewish oligarch / nazi (which supports his other material about zionist-nazi links). THe oligarch in question, Ihor Kolomoisky, was appointed Governor of Dnipropetrovsk after the Russian invasions of 2014. He had a pecuniary interest in defeating Russia’s invasion as his assets in the Crimean peninsula had been stolen by Russia. Yes he did finance the (overwhelmingly Russian speaking) Azov battalion, a quarter of which is comprised of neo-nazis, but also several other battalions that fought the Russian invasion in 2014, when the Ukrainian army was next to useless. The good news is that the far right is much weaker in Ukraine than in many countries around the world today.
    As I have mentioned before, without the rapid formation of 45 volunteer battalions in 2014 (three quarters of which were Russian speaking), Ukraine would have been overrun by Russia. What Unz doesn’t mention about Kolomoisky (who is a triple citizen of Ukraine, Cyprus and Israel), is that he no longer lives in Ukraine, having absconded to Switzerland and the US after allegedly embezzling billions from his Privatbank (since nationalised). His assets have been frozed by the High Court in London (on Ukrainian Government claims) pending a trial that may not start until 2020. Kolomoisky is not a nazi. He is a corrupt embezzler with no ideology but himself. Ron really gets things distorted. He has no clue whatever.

    *** ***

    Ron, I hope that you will find this honestly informative despite the fact that my friend shows his irritation at what you sometimes seem to put forward as your views on Ukraine. (I don’t know what he thinks about the various arguments which depend upon one’s views of neo-con activities or NATO but he seems to understand well a primal instinct in most Ukrainians, including the Russian speaking, not to be swallowed up by Russia).

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @annamaria
  166. Another superb piece of work.

  167. @Haxo Angmark

    One of the best comments I’ve read, anywhere.

  168. Dan Hayes says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost

    Hamlet’s Ghost:

    Ron’s publishing Mein Kamp. Now that’s really raising the ante into the wild blue yonder!

    Talk about eating the forbidden fruit. Reading Mein Kamp is eating the forbidden orchard!

    I too am eagerly looking forward to Ron’s review of it.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  169. @jimmyriddle

    Re the abduction and execution of Adolf Eichmann?

    “Appearances” my dear fellow… “Appearances”… Have you read “1984″? If not, time you did!

  170. annamaria says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Agree. The native scum like Blair and Cheney are in no way lesser enemies of humanity than the warmongering zionist supremacists.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  171. utu says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    I care less…people who put an agenda – in your case, anti-Jew – above raw facticity are beneath contempt. I share that agenda…but facts rule.

    One may wonder what is the actual agenda of CODOH level revisions? To compromise the actual revisionism and make it impossible? When one tries to make a point about Zionist responsibility all kind of Wallys show up and end up de facto defending the Zionists. Does Wally realize he is a Zionists stooge?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @L.K
  172. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    Totally agree. This is long overdue.

  173. annamaria says:
    @tac

    A little bit off the topic, but here is a nice summary of where we are today by Paul Craig Roberts, where he remarks sidewise, “if Russia was really inclined to assassinate someone, it would be Bill Browder and not Skirpal.” https://ahtribune.com/interview/2416-paul-craig-roberts.html

    The Magnisky Act affair offers a spectacle of the moral rot of the thoroughly zionized Congress: http://theduran.com/the-magnitsky-trio-pushes-for-war-with-russia-with-new-sanctions/
    “If half of what I have come to understand about the Curious Case of Bill Browder is true, then the “Magnitsky Trio” of Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Ben Cardin are guilty of espionage, at a minimum…
    Cardin knew there were problems with Browder’s story about Magnitsky’s death and yet brought him into Congress to testify to secure the vote.
    That’s suborning perjury…”

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Seraphim
  174. annamaria says:
    @APilgrim

    Read again and learn why the Jewish State is an enemy of the US and the humanity at large.

    Israeli treachery and the death of US servicemen: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html
    “On June 8, 1967, 34 American servicemen were killed and 174 were wounded during an Israeli attack on the USS Liberty:” http://ifamericaknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty.html

    “Israel is arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine:” https://countercurrents.org/2018/07/05/israel-is-arming-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/

    Israel is saving the Islamic terrorists in Syria: https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201807221066593199-us-unlikely-accept-white-helmets-terrorists/

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/07/22/the-white-helmets-controversy/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save-Islamic-militants-Syrian-warzone-risking-lives-sworn-enemies.html

    Tel Aviv collaborates with Islamic terrorists: https://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2018/02/08/israeli-attacks-aimed-at-aiding-saving-terrorists-syria/

    You are welcome.

    • Replies: @anon
  175. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Mr. Unz’ article could cause a permanent case of psychological stress for most people.

    • Replies: @Wally
  176. @Dan Hayes

    Do you mean Mein Kampf?

    You can buy that book at pretty much any decent sized book store and on Amazon, so it’s already been approved for general consumption.

    There are other books that really are banned, or at least frowned upon, that would be much more daring for Ron to reprint here. Like Arthur Butz’ Hoax of the Twentieth Century, The Turner Diaries and M.S. King’s The Bad War

  177. Them Guys says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    #15…Then you awake from a 24 hr. long LSD Induced Fantasy Dream, and realize that about 98% of those prior 14-numbered issues, were an entire Jewish invented Fraudulent, Scam, Swindle, Hoax of a magnitude never before seen nor heard of in all of known world history. Which says quite a lot, as compared to so many other Jewish based Lies and Scam-Hoaxes eh. Yep, Dope will dull minds that way at times, it empties the brain so it can later be re-filled with tons of jewdeo nonsensical Jew-Spew.

    That’s the reason Israel is manufacturing Capitol #1 for current dope craze of Ecstasy Pills, and Likewise since the Opium induced insanity of China a few centuries ago, today’s Massive Heroin problems worldwide, especially in America and EU White Nations, is also fully controlled and Owned by the Jewish Sassoon Family and fellow traveler Jewdeo Co-Hort’s eh.

    With Much Hollywood created promotion’s for weak minded folks to “Expand their mind by doing, Dope”….But what those promotors fail to warn folks of is that, once their dope filled mind has “expanded”…It causes a huge empty space, and such empty spaces cannot remain empty, as the nature of it causes that emptiness to always get quickly Re-filled. The “what’s” it gets refilled with or by is the main problem….and whenever or wherever Jews are involved, it will always entail their jewdeo/zio influences that are most likely to do the refilling of dope emptied brains and minds.

    Hence, we find that ever since the 1960′s era of, “Tune In. Turn On, and, Drop Out” advice from top msm promoted university Professors, and Lefty Marxist Jews such as Timmy Leary, and Abby Hoffman Et al, America has led the dope craze. And likewise has the top lead of braindead doped up zio-jew-christianity, and secular minded defenders and suporters of all things Jewish.

    With a track record of near 100% of doped braindead cutural marxist, Frankfurt School trained, idiots who never even consider to, Think or ask inquiring questions that challange such Jewish and Zionist invented WW II era forms of the Worlds Biggest to Date ever scam sham of, Holohoax claims and the Jewish Kabalistic religious induced fervor of their also invented fraud of a “six-Million-Jews” fantasy claim…..Sweet Dopey Dream’s, Goyim.

  178. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    You do protest too much. Here is an enlighting material on who controls Ukraine: http://www.hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Ukraine.html
    By the way, what is strange with the fact that Ukrainians speak Russian? Does speaking English make you a Brit?

    In case you miss the above link, here are the excerpts (as a response to your lengthy post):
    “Ukraine, which parted from Russia in 1991, has never achieved a truly independent state. Just like in Russia, or even 80 years earlier in the Weimar Republic, a tribe of vultures descended upon the body of the nation.
    In the early 1990s, backed by the financial power of international Jewish bankers, the vultures bought for pennies and plainly seized, all major enterprises previously owned by the state. Including the biggest factories and entire sectors of the newly “privatized” national economy.
    According to the 2001 Ukrainian census, there are 103,000 Jews in Ukraine, which is 0.2% of the total population. .. However, as one might expect, the Jewish “oligarchs” were the ones who happened to seize all positions in mass media. …
    Who are the “Ukrainian” oligarchs?
    Victor Pinchuk is the son-of-law of Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma [Kuchma was placed into office by Jew George Soros]. He is the owner of several oil, gas and energy import/export companies. He also owns the nation’s largest steel mill and a chain of banks. His group has very strong ties with other Jewish organizations in Ukraine, as well as in the U.S. and Israel. He is a member of the Ukrainian Parliament, an adviser to the president, and one of the leaders of the Labor Ukrainian Party.
    Vadim Rabinovich is a citizen of Israel. In 1980 he was charged with stealing state property and spent 9 months in a jail. In 1984 he was arrested and sentenced to 14 years in prison for his black market activities . He was released in 1990. In 1993 he became a representative of the Austrian company “Nordex” in Ukraine. The company received exclusive rights to sell Russian oil from president Kuchma . In 1997 Rabinovich became president of the All-Ukrainian Jewish Congress, and in 1999 he was elected head of the United Jewish Community of Ukraine. Also in 1999, Rabinovich created the Jewish Confederation of Ukraine. That same year the Associated Press estimated his wealth as $1 billion. Rabinovich owns Central Europe Media Enterprises, which controls television stations in seven East European countries.”
    – Let’s recapitulate:
    Rabinovich is an Israeli citizen of Jewish-Ukrainian origin.
    In, 1980, Rabinovich was arrested for embezzlement of state funds in especially big amount. Released after a nine-month investigation.
    In 1982 Rabinovich was arrested for embezzlement of state fund in especially big amount.
    In 1984, Rabinovich was sentenced to 14 years in forced-labor camp by the Kharkiv regional court. Assets confiscated and professional activity prohibited for 5 years.
    In 1995, Rabinovich had his visa to the United States revoked in 1995 due to his links to arms dealers.
    In 2002, Vadim Rabinovich sold, with certain Loutchansky, a consignment of 150 to 200 T-55 and T-62 tanks to the Taliban.

    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Vadim_Rabinovich

    – This felon, has also founded (in a company with Kolomojsky, the main financier of Ukrainian neo-Nazis) the European Jewish Parliament aka Knesset in Brussels.

    Back to the linked article:
    “… out of the 400+ members of the Ukrainian Parliament, 136 (possibly 158) are Jews. That is more than in the Israeli Knesset. Who voted for them? Who paid for costly election campaigns? — 90% of Ukrainian banks are owned by Jews.

    Ukraine is the perfect example of so-called Democracy – “democracy” where the rule of a tiny, ethnic minority is disguised under the cloak of the will and rule of the majority. By controlling mass media and skillfully manipulating the opinions of the Ukrainian electorat, these “fat cats” as they’re called in Ukraine — these liars and corrupters, are the real masters in this beautiful country.”

    • Replies: @Anon
  179. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    The only people I’ve known who have actually read Mein Kampf have been Jews, for whatever that’s worth, though it’s not really hard to come across (my public library has a copy).

    edit: actually two copies.

  180. Hunsdon says:
    @APilgrim

    Let me explain my jest, since apparently you did not understand it. Your comment about the PLO might have been insightful, true and accurate . . . but it was not relevant. We are not discussing the PLO. If you want to make a contribution to this conversation, you need to be talking about the same things we’re discussing, the same things that our host posted about.

  181. APilgrim says:

    Fascinating, the degree to which William Proxmire’s translation of ‘Mein Kampf’ has been obscured. I cannot even find a reference to the Proxmire translation on the Senator William Proxmire Collection, of the Wisconsin Historical Society.

    For the first time in 65 years, a modern, easy to understand, truly complete and uncensored edition of Mein Kampf has been released which reveals more than any past translation. This hardcover book is also the first translation available in an English language audio format.Older translations altered passages, omitted passages, mistranslated Hitler’s words, made some parts more sensational while concealing the true meaning in other parts of the book. If you have read one of these older translations of Mein Kampf, then you have not read the REAL Mein Kampf which is found only in the Ford Translation.Mein Kampf is often portrayed as nothing more than an Anti-Semitic work, however only 6% of it even talks about the Jews.

    Mein Kampf: The New Ford Translation Paperback – July 25, 2009, by Adolf Hitler (Author), Michael Ford (Editor), https://www.amazon.com/Mein-Kampf-Translation-Michael-Ford/dp/0977476081 -

  182. Them Guys says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You? Skeptical of ANY Thing any Jews have Ever yet Claimed? That’s a huge Joke based on 99% of replies from you eh.

    Even if a LIVE TV broadcast of a Blood Draining done by NY or Israel Top Rabbi’s was shown on the NatGeo channel, or most duped folks favorite, the History/Hitler-Daily-Channel, of a small Christian Child who they admitted to kidnapping to drain his/her Blood from, in order to perform an Kabala taught Satanic Black Magic Curse upon the, Goyims…..

    [MORE]

    And even if after the hour long Live show demonstration ended, God and 10,000 of Heavens Angel’s swooped down into Your Living room blocking your view of the tv set, and Told you that live rabbi show was 100% real and a typical example of ziojewry in action….You’d still demand More Proof! and still would refuse to believe it was truth!

    Instead of current screen names and so many Anon’s as names…perhaps all the UNZ naysayers and always defenders of jewry No matter What…Should create a collective and all use same screen name of “I don’t Care what Fact are as my minds made up, and no Facts nor Truths shall ever be able to change it!”

    Or half of that collective can use this as screen name…”I always demand or ask for more proofs, links etc. just to act as if it will affect my already made up mind, so to fool folks at unz forums”

  183. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    Anon [209] writes, “Ihor Kolomoisky was appointed Governor of Dnipropetrovsk after the Russian invasions of 2014. He had a pecuniary interest in defeating Russia’s invasion as his assets in the Crimean peninsula had been stolen by Russia. Yes he did finance the (overwhelmingly Russian speaking) Azov battalion, a quarter of which is comprised of neo-nazis, but also several other battalions that fought the Russian invasion in 2014, when the Ukrainian army was next to useless.”
    – This is a show of audacity at presenting the well-debunked lies.
    First is your lie of the “Russian invasions of 2014.” — Have you heard about Nuland-Kagan presence in Kiev in 2014? About the 5$ billion allocated by the US government for regime change in Kiev? About the secreted visit of Brennan, the Director of the CIA, to Kiev on the eve of the initiation of the ongoing civil war in Ukraine? — No? You only read MSM presstituting stuff? Too bad.
    – What exactly was “stolen in Crimea” which has been an integral part of Russia for centuries and which residents voted — on several occasions — for a greater autonomy from Kiev? Too much democracy for you?
    “Russia and Ukraine signed three agreements in 1997 governing the status of the Black Sea Fleet. Under the agreements, Russia was permitted to station a maximum of 25,000 troops, 132 armored combat vehicles and 24 pieces of artillery at its military facilities in Crimea.” — Those troops were already in Crimea when the local population held a referendum on Crimean status in 2014.
    – The Azov battalion is a neo-nazi formation with neo-Nazi emblems and neo-Nazi ideology. Please spare us your bean counting. Kolomojsky, an Israeli citizen and a pillar of Jewish Community of Ukraine, has been the main financier of the neo-nazi formation. The Knesset is totally on his side: https://www.sott.net/article/390483-Israel-now-arming-neo-Nazis-in-Ukraine “Israel is arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine”
    – Do you need more “honest information?” Here is some about Lazar Kaganovich (the Jewish Wolf of Kremlin) and his involvement in Holodomor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich
    “By the end of 1933, millions of people had starved to death or had otherwise died unnaturally in Ukraine and the other Soviet republics. The total number of population losses (famine death and birth deficit) across the entire Soviet Union is estimated at 6–7 million.” — The tragedy made Ukrainians hateful of Jewish Bolsheviks and receptive toward Nazis during the WWII; the tragedy also explains the phenomenon of banderism.
    “Ukrainians Demand Israeli Apology for Holodomor:” https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/ukrainians-add-insults-holocaust/ri16765

  184. Hunsdon says:
    @Art

    That’s some toxic squid ink from APilgrim.

  185. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    The teachers of Blair and Cheney were warmongering Zionists. Isn’t the teacher more responsible than the pupil?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  186. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    said:
    Mr. Unz’ article could cause a permanent case of psychological stress for most people.”

    Just what the doctor ordered.

    http://www.codoh.com

  187. Anon[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Are there different versions or translations of MK? Is one considered more authentic/accurate than another?

  188. Anon[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    Is that an answer to something? If so, what? Are you attempting to blow smoke in the eyes of anyone who might have found what an honest observer had to say interesting?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  189. Wally says:
    @utu

    Ah yes, the same utu who religiously believes in the scientifically impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers’.

    Note the beating I put on him here:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-post-war-france-and-post-war-germany/

    comment 429:

    LOL

    http://www.codoh.com

  190. @Phil

    Perhaps in Manhattan… Brooklyn is all about the orthodoxy!

  191. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Lengthy, select MORE if need be.

    Oh yawn. Your vile, redneck Zionist racism is showing.
    Anyway, as expected, I noticed you avoided my information debunking your post.

    Zionist Breitman’s laughable propaganda, of which you tellingly do not a quote a single point, debunked here:
    The Enemy Is Listening!” What Did the British Intelligence Service Know about the Holocaust?
    By Christoph M. Wieland : https://codoh.com/library/document/4028/?lang=en

    more on Breitman’s fakery here: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=breitman
    Next time just reference an unhinged Rabbi, you might do better.

    [MORE]

    As for the laughable Eavesdropping on Hell – Historical Guide to Western Communications Intelligence and the Holocaust, 1939-1945, Robert Hanyok, which you are afraid to quote a single point, that too has been shattered: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2350

    You claimed this even more laughable impossibility”:
    “as to the “lack” of mass graves: successive Jewish sonderkommandos, recruited in Auschwitz, were during 1943-44 trucked to most of the larger mass shooting sites; there they dug up and cremated the rotting corpses, after which they too were shot. Just as Jew SK’s did @ Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and elsewhere. A few SK survivors have since been been interviewed or written up their own accounts; I’ve studied them and judge them largely factual. You don’t? I care less…people who put an agenda – in your case, anti-Jew – above raw facticity are beneath contempt. I share that agenda…but facts rule.”

    Once again you dodged what I posted. It’s claim that those remains still exist in known places, see ‘Holocaust By Bullets’ *.
    And there have been attempts to find what you claim magically disappeared. The results… zippo..I rather doubt they would have wasted their time looking if they didn’t expect to find them. LOL
    ex.:
    !! Excavation Result: No Enormous Human Remains as Alleged at Babi Yar !! … of
    course’
    : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11314

    And of course at alleged extermination sites we see claims of those huge mass graves / remains:
    Sobibor ‘monument’ supposedly over the remains of 250,000 Jew, actual remains of the alleged 250,000 cannot be shown.
    :https://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Sobibor/SobiborMonument04.jpg

    Alleged “ash pond” for 1,100,000 Jew remains at Auschwitz, no actual remains can be shown.

    Alleged location of Treblinka mass graves / remains of 900,000 Jews according to Treblinka officials, no alleged remains can be shown
    :

    photo from ‘Surviving Treblinka’, by Samuel Willenberg.

    It is captioned: “crane lifting corpses destined for cremation”.
    Does anyone see any “corpses”? LOL

    * For bodies not claimed to have been cremated, we have books like ‘Holocaust by Bullets‘ where it is claimed that the sites are precisely known, though they cannot show us the alleged & truly massive numbers of Jews that are allegedly buried in those claimed locations. We know why.
    see:
    Holocaust by Bullets: Uncovering the Reality of alleged Genocide’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7362
    and:
    Mattogno demolishes ‘Holocaust by Bullets’ ‘mass graves’ fraud: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9768
    and:
    “Holocaust by Bullets” debunked: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5410

  192. Skeptikal says:
    @utu

    My father was born in 1913. My grandmother was a Vasser graduate and she would not hear of circucision for any of her fours sons.

    My own mother, German half Jewish, was adamant as to no circumcision for my brother.

    My uncle (German one) –don’t know whether he was circumcised— became very much more “Jewish” in his old age and was furious that his daughter did not have her son c’d.

    Is it true that circumcision dulls sexual sensation? Who can compare?????

    • Replies: @David
    , @Heros
  193. anarchyst says:
    @Heros

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    [MORE]

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.

    What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    As cremation of ONE human body takes hours, the amount of time claimed by holocaust ™ promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”. There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites. WHY?? Because THEY DO NOT EXIST. There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites. WHY?? If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. A questionable judicial “trick” used in “holocaust ™” trials is that of “judicial notice” in which TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. Judicial notice, once invoked against a defendant, disallows the introduction of evidence that does not conform to “commonly accepted beliefs” about the “holocaust ™”, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE EXPOSES THE “HOLOCAUST ™” LIES AND FABRICATIONS THAT CAN EASILY BE DEBUNKED. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”. Zionist complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust ™”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.

    The latest “vicitms” of “holocaustianity ™” are Ursula Haverbeck and Monika Schaefer, both grandmothers who have been prosecuted and sentenced to maximum-security prisons in Germany for “incorrect thoughts”.

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust ™” is the only one that counts . . . It is interesting to note that the term “holocaust ™” to mean “mass extermination” was never used during or immediately after WW2, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that “guilt” could be assigned and reparations could be procured.

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome”. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations. According to these jewish psychiatrists, even unrelated individuals can be “infected” with this “malady”.

    Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland” for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures). The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    It is said that “the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth” Unfortunately this quote does not apply to “all things holocaust ™”. It appears that there are those “holocaust ™” promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH. Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question aspects of this historical event.

    I urge all “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

    • Agree: Druid
  194. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    … each Lithuanian village killed their jews:
    Dan Jacobson, ‘Heschel’s Rijk, Familiekroniek’, Amsterdam, 1998

    This is consistent with Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s account in 200 Years Together of the slaughter of Jews in Eastern Europe. The Germans encouraged the locals to do the killing but, where in the absence of local enthusiasm for murder, as in Belarus for example, the Germans did the dirty work themselves.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  195. Ron Unz says:

    I’ve glanced through the nearly 30,000 words of comments, and I noticed that a few dealt with America’s WWII racial policies in the military, and these certainly warrant clarifications/corrections on my part.

    First, it’s clear that I was mistaken in suggesting that Chinese-Americans were barred from becoming American officers with command-authority over whites. That’s what happens when you toss in a casual aside without investigating the matter.

    Similarly, it appears there were at least some cases in which segregated black units were used in combat, though I’d always vaguely heard otherwise. Apparently, their extremely poor performance may have been the reason the practice was abandoned and the entire matter possibly covered up in the history books.

    However, I certainly never would have claimed that Mexican-Americans or other Latinos were treated in that matter. Until the Nixon Administration invented Hispanics around 1970, they had always been considered more or less white, and were typically lumped together with South Italians and Portuguese as “Latins.” So they always served side-by-side with other whites in regular military units, and I don’t doubt many of them became officers or even generals. After all, James Jesus Angleton, one of the top CIA officials, was half-Mexican, and nobody thought anything of that.

    Similarly, part-Amerinds were generally treated as “white” in much the same way. For example, the very famous athlete Jim Thorpe was certainly always known to be half-Indian, but that seems to have been considered an interesting curiosity rather than cause for any serious social discrimination, and he got all sorts of prestigious awards and honors, while all of his wives were white. Similarly, Coolidge’s VP was part-Indian, and that was viewed in the same way. In fact, I think I recall there may have even been a Confederate general who was a full-blooded Indian.

    Basically, different societies often treat different groups in different ways, and this is not always entirely logical and can also change considerably over time.

    Otherwise, I’d very much like to thank many of the commenters for their kind words about my article.

    • Replies: @Heros
  196. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Have the corpses been recovered?

    They were burned by the “Hitlerite bandits” according to the Soviet prosecutors at Nuremberg.

  197. Heros says:
    @Ron Unz

    First of all, I think a mention of the jew lies about Hitler’s racism, especially the mind control propaganda about Jesse Owens would be in order. The Blacks, Muslims and every variant of the various European races were accepted with honor into the SS.

    The honorable and fair treatment of different races should be compared to the deliberate and planned genetic destruction of Germany through miscegenation forced on by east asians in the ZOG soviet army, US Negro troops station in Berlin in the US ZOG army, and French negro colonial troops sent to rape and pillage Italy in the French ZOG army.

    It had all been predictively programmed and it has unfolded exactly to these plans, as is evidenced by the Protocols, the Kalergy Plan, and the Morgentau Plan.

    • Replies: @Wally
  198. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Phil

    I’m glad that you do not endorse “mass gassing” claims.

    Does anyone still sincerely endorse such claims?

    What is clear is that during WW2 many millions of both civilians and prisoners of war were either murdered or caused to die as a result of unnecessarily brutal maltreatment and that there is guilt enough to share among all parties, including the victorious allies and even, according to Lenni Brenner, Zionist Jews who believed that the suffering of Europe’s Jews was necessary to create the worldwide sympathy for Jews that would enable the creation of a Jewish State in Palestine.

  199. hyperbola says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Time to clean the jewish bankers and oligarchs out of the equation – they buy too many goy lackeys.

    Angela Merkel Is A Zionist Sock Puppet

    https://www.blacklistednews.com/Angela_Merkel_Is_A_Zionist_Sock_Puppet/33673/0/5/5/Y/M.html

    Who pulled Tony Blair’s strings?

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/david-cronin/who-pulled-tony-blairs-strings

    Tony Blair: A true friend of Israel

    https://electronicintifada.net/content/tony-blair-true-friend-israel/7038

    …. Blair’s anti-Palestinian bias began early in his political career. During his time as prime minister, Blair regularly consulted a pro-Israel lobby group, Labour Friends of Israel (LFI). He has been close to this group ever since he became a member of parliament fourteen years ago. In his speech to the LFI Annual Reception in September 2006, Blair said: “I have never actually found it hard to be friend of Israel, I am proud to be a friend of Israel.” [1]

    [MORE]

    One of Blair’s early supporters was Michael Levy, a staunch supporter of Israel’s policies against Palestinians, a former board member of the Jewish Agency and active in various Jewish charities in Britain. Levy began to support Blair’s private office from his own pocket. He has since raised millions of pounds for the Labour Party. Levy’s fundraising efforts for Blair eventually paid off when Blair became Prime Minister. First appointed an envoy by Tony Blair after the 1997 election, Levy — later nicknamed “Lord Cashpoint” — has helped to develop a strongly pro-Israel line from Blair’s office. [2] Three years later, Levy was appointed Tony Blair’s personal envoy to the Middle East. In July 2006 and again in January of this year, Levy was arrested in connection with allegations that Labour Party supporters were offered honors in return for loans and donations. With the resignation of Tony Blair today, Levy also steps down. Commenting on Levy’s resignation, Richard Spring, a Conservative spokesman on foreign affairs, told The Independent: “I welcome his departure. We have some of the most skilled and distinguished diplomats in the world and they have been humiliated and sidelined by Lord Levy’s antics in the Middle East. He has caused great embarrassment for this country.” [3]…..

    Theresa May: Palestinians must have “full civil rights”

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/theresa-may-palestinians-must-have-full-civil-rights

    ….. Theresa May’s elevation as UK prime minister, following the resignation of David Cameron, has been welcomed by supporters of Israel. UK lawmaker Mike Freer, an officer with the parliamentary grouping Conservative Friends of Israel, has described May as a “true friend of Israel.”

    ….May’s move to ban Raed Salah from the UK was prompted by a report from the Community Security Trust (CST), an Israel lobby group with close ties to the Conservative Party. In a statement on Monday, Conservative Friends of Israel touted May’s strong support for Israel and the UK Jewish community throughout her public life….

    Rothschild Deep State & Their Macron Spawn In France

    https://politicalvelcraft.org/2017/04/24/rothschild-deep-state-their-macron-spawn-in-france/

    Financial elite created France’s new president, Emmanuel Macron

    https://www.pambazuka.org/global-south/diana-johnstone-financial-elite-created-frances-new-president-emmanuel-macron

  200. nagra says:

    This author should examine Vatican first.
    Than their a godfather Ante Pavelić.
    To get what a Nazi even means.

    Not a slight paragraph about the worst crime in the 20th century.

    Conflict in the Ukraine today is driven by same forces as in WW2

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
  201. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    “.. what an honest observer had to say interesting.”
    The supposedly honest observer has shown an amazing degree of willful ignorance that led to lies. What exactly has irritated you so much in the post? You are free to refute the statements, instead of writing about some mysterious “smoke in the eyes.”

  202. Wally says:
    @Heros

    said:
    “First of all, I think a mention of the jew lies about Hitler’s racism, especially the mind control propaganda about Jesse Owens would be in order”.

    Here we go, on the Zionist lies which say that Hitler snubbed Jesse Owens at the 1936 Olympics because he was black, from Owens’s own book.

    Owens after winning the long jump at the 1936 Summer Olympics:

    “When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticizing the man of the hour in Germany”.

    Owens also said:
    “Hitler didn’t snub me—it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn’t even send me a telegram.”

    Hitler was forbidden by Olympic officials from visiting any athletes after their events. Hence the lie that Hitler deliberately avoided Owens is exposed.

    Jesse Owens was never invited to the White House nor bestowed any honors by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) or Harry S. Truman during their terms.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  203. @Anonymous

    Haven’t you forgotten the idea of Lebensraum in the East?

    • Replies: @Anon
  204. @nagra

    The German National Socialists (Nazis) received their funding from somewhere. It’s not a stretch to figure out who it is. Ron Unz has provided the links to the research that connects the Jewish Banking Elite to Nazism. Therefore it is no surprise that Israel and its benefactors are currently funding the Neo-Nazis in the Ukraine and the Alt-Right controlled opposition.

    No. It is not the Vatican. It is the Conservative and Liberal Friends of Israel, AIPAC, and the B’nai B’rith that control the funding for every single politician in the EU countries, Canada, the United States, and Australia. To date I have not witnessed either a single nun or priest with cash in hand trying to buy off a politician in Congress. The Vatican is not the controller.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @nagra
  205. Mulegino1 says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    as to the “lack” of mass graves: successive Jewish sonderkommandos, recruited in Auschwitz, were during 1943-44 trucked to most of the larger mass shooting sites; there they dug up and cremated the rotting corpses, after which they too were shot. Just as Jew SK’s did @ Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and elsewhere. A few SK survivors have since been been interviewed or written up their own accounts; I’ve studied them and judge them largely factual. You don’t? I care less…people who put an agenda – in your case, anti-Jew – above raw facticity are beneath contempt. I share that agenda…but facts rule.

    There is no evidence of mass burials, mass graves or massive outdoor cremations. As described by the so called “survivors”, the accounts are physically and logistical impossibilities. Take Treblinka II: Allegedly 700,000 or more Jews were murdered and buried in mass graves at this site. Given that this would have required mass graves roughly 100 times the surface area of those at Katyn, this is simply ridiculous. There were no mass graves at this camp commensurate with tens of thousands of victims, let alone hundreds of thousands. And the mass cremation stories are totally ridiculous. Do you realize how many kilograms of dried, cured firewood would have been needed to burn so many victims? Where was the wood taken from, dried, transported from and- importantly- where were the huge warehouses needed to keep it dry? There are no traces of mass graves, mass excavations, or mass cremations at any of these alleged “killing sites.” Not at Babi Yar, not at Treblinka II, nor anywhere else. The only enormous mass graves found so far are of victims of the Soviet NKVD and Cheka.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @L.K
  206. David says:
    @Skeptikal

    Captain Sir Richard Francis Burton had to get circumcised as an adult before he could travel undercover in the middle east. He was a noted sex tourist and said that getting circumcised was his greatest regret.

  207. Anon[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @siberiancat

    No, I didn’t. But that was only a fraction of the overall German endeavor, and much of that territorial fraction was either majority German or taken in self defense against the Bolsheviks and/or British-French aggression.

    The Zionist conquest of Palestine is inapposite.

  208. Have the American Pravda articles been compiled into a book or ebook? As a latecomer, I would love to be able to pursue them offline. Granted, I could save them in Evernote or Pocket or something, but…

  209. Anon[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1

    I’d be very interested in reading Ron’s view on the mass graves question, if he ever decided to apply his considerable analytical skills to it at some point.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  210. Heros says:
    @Skeptikal

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-anti-semitism-a-century-ago/#comment-2449111

    “Me: born on a farm in the woods in the middle of nowhere.
    No central heating. Milk and eggs came from cows and chickens.
    Chores were fetching wood, helping father milk cow, etc.Etc.”

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-anti-semitism-a-century-ago/#comment-2449485

    “I am an “ethnic German.””

    On this thread Skeptik says:

    My father was born in 1913. My grandmother was a Vasser graduate…

    My own mother, German half Jewish…

    My uncle (German one) –… became very much more “Jewish” in his old age

    So the “ethnic German” “born on a farm” boy whose “grandmother was a Vasser graduate” and whose “German half Jewish” mother whose uncle “became much more jewish” is an ethnic german farmboy.

    Lying jews love shitting all over the truth.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  211. Art says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost

    Here is the Hitler quote – MK.

    The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

    Gradually I began to hate them.

    He says the Jews earned his hate — Hmm.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  212. L.K says:
    @utu

    Does ‘utu’ realize he/she is a TROLL?

    Yep.

    • Troll: nagra
  213. L.K says:
    @Mulegino1

    Great post as usual, mulegino…

    But trying to reason with fanatics like this haxo angmark is like running head first against a brick wall…

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  214. L.K says:
    @Jon Baptist

    The German National Socialists (Nazis) received their funding from somewhere. It’s not a stretch to figure out who it is. Ron Unz has provided the links to the research that connects the Jewish Banking Elite to Nazism.

    This is completely FALSE… not even the Ford allegation is true much less Jewish banking.

    The Myth of the Big Business-Nazi Axis
    Kerry R. Bolton
    Full article http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/7/3/3434

    …in regard to Nazi party funding is that, quoting economist Paul Drucker:

    The really decisive backing came from sections of the lower middle classes, the farmers, and working class… As far as the Nazi Party is concerned there is good reason to believe that at least three-quarters of its funds, even after 1930, came from the weekly dues…. And from the entrance fees to the mass meetings from which members of the upper classes were always conspicuously absent.[60]

    Conclusion

    Some Wall Street luminaries who are supposed to have been “pro-Nazi” on the basis of business affiliations in Germany were among those agitating for war against Germany. Foreign business holdings were held in trust throughout the war by Germany in accordance with international law. The one individual who had convincing links with international capital, Hjalmar Schacht, was relieved of all positions by 1939 and ended up in a concentration camp. Those German businessmen who did provide funds to the Nazi party did so at a comparatively late date, and were of nationalistic sentiments in a German tradition that was alien to that of the self-interest of the English free-trade school. Even those foreign businessmen who might reasonably have been expected to fund the NSDAP on ideological grounds, primarily Henry Ford, did not do so, persistent allegations to the contrary.

    The machinations of international capital, including those who were supposedly pro-German, were for war, especially if Germany could not be persuaded to return to orthodox methods of trade and finance. War came the same year as Schacht was dismissed from office.

    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
    , @fnn
    , @refl
  215. L.K says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    You obviously don’t know the ‘facts’ if you got hit with them!

    Plus, obviously, you are one of those types who never bother to read what the other side of the suppressed holohoax debate is saying.

    Despite the vicious censorship, holocaust revisionists have made most of their many well documented books available on the net for free:

    http://holocausthandbooks.com

    As*holes like you therefore have no excuse at this point… YOU are beneath contempt.

    • Agree: Kolo
  216. L.K says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    It’s an excellent underground docu for sure, and it shows clearly the sheer absurdity of the official AR camps nonsense.

    I’ve noticed this video or channels featuring it often getting removed/closed from youtube.

  217. Mulegino1 says:
    @Anon

    I agree. Of course, the question of the Reinhardt “Extermination” Camps is a rather arcane subject in the popular imagination. The way that the Holocaustians or Shoahites control the narrative is the following:

    Show some of the photographs from Buchenwald/Nordhausen /Dachau and claim that they were “Jewish victims of the ‘Holocaust’” when in reality they were almost all victims of the Allied aerial genocide against Germany.

    Trot out a few grandmotherly or avuncular “survivors” from “the camps” who claimed that they survived multiple attempts at mass gassings or were experimented on by the ubiquitous “Mengele.”

    Hysterically claim that the “next Holocaust” and the “next Hitler” are just around the corner by using the usual “Muslim extremist” bogeyman (useful when applied to Iran, Hezbollah, Yemen, Syria, Iraq , i.e., the Shia nations in general- not so much to the Israeli allies who support the Wahhabi head choppers such as Saudi Arabia, the UAE, etc) for the Middle East – then use “the rise of Neo-Nazism” for the anti-immigrant parties in the EU (but not applying it to the neo-Nazi Zionists in Ukraine.) Everyone knows that Putin is the next Hitler,; Assad and Rouhani are up to bat and Trump is next up. Their game is old, tired, and about up. Which is why it becomes ever more shrill and ridiculous.

  218. @APilgrim

    There were two (2) contemporary English language translations of ‘Mein-Kamph’ (My Story); Adolph Hitler’s AUTHORIZED translation, which downplayed his genocidal plans, and the UNAUTHORIZED Translation by Edward William Proxmire. Hitler sued Proxmire in Federal Court for copyright infringement. Proxmire bragged about this throughout his political career, in the US Senate.

    You’re confused.

    “Mein Kampf” translates to “My Struggle” or perhaps “My Battle,” not “My Story.”

    Strictly speaking, there were no “contemporaneous” English language translations of Mein Kampf. It wasn’t published in English until the 1930s — not that it really matters when the translation was done, as long as a competent translator is working from a correct original text.

    Wiiliam Proxmire never attempted to translate Mein Kampf. Alan Cranston (a reporter at the time) did, at the behest of Hearst editor(((Amster Spiro))) — and in close cooperation with the ADL’s Benjamin Epstein. They published a bootleg, heavily abridged (< 25% of the length of the original), distorted, and annotated edition. Cranston claimed that he dictated this translation in eight days, to a "battery of secretaries." He was sued for blatant copyright infringement by Houghton Mifflin — and lost, of course. Is this what you intended by the Proxmire reference?

    The Murphy translation (Hutchinson & Co, 1939) is the translation that was intended to be approved by the National Socialists.

    The other major translation is the Manheim translation (Houghton Mifflin, 1943).

    Both are unabridged.

    A more recent full translation by Michael Ford is supposed to be more readable, but has been criticized as inaccurate.
    The first publication in English of Mein Kampf was an abridgement by Edgar Dugdale (1933). Interestingly, given the topic of this piece, the British version of this translation was published anonymously — since both Dugdale and his wife were active in the Zionist movement. Blanche was the niece of Lord Balfour.

    There were several other translations published in the 1930s, including the (annotated) Reynal and Hitchcock translation, which was done by a committee from the (((New School for Social Research))) and is not well-regarded.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
    , @jilles dykstra
  219. Mulegino1 says:
    @L.K

    Thanks, L.K. I agree that engaging in a factual debate with people like this is akin to debating claims made in the Watchtower magazine with a devoted Jehovah’s Witness.

    • LOL: L.K
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  220. Skeptikal says:
    @Heros

    I am half German.
    End of story.
    Your frothing regarding “farm stolen from ethnic Germans” is beyond ludicrous.

    • Replies: @Heros
  221. APilgrim says:
    @James Forrestal

    You are incorrect.

    William Proxmire routinely bragged about Adolph Hitler suing him in federal court, for defamation, and/copyright infringement, related to Mein Kampf.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @James Forrestal
  222. Skeptikal says:
    @annamaria

    They, plus Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, have hundreds of thousands into millions of lives on their consciences—if they have them, which they appear not to do. Not just the murdered and maimed, but he made homeless, the unwilling and the willing migrants, and all in the target countries such as Italy and Libya that have paid the price twice over of these psychopaths’ adventures.

  223. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    The teachers of Blair and Cheney were warmongering Zionists. Isn’t the teacher more responsible than the pupil?

    Who cares about responsibility. What matters is effective reaction. So what do you do? Go on moaning about Jews serving their own interests as they always will, or hang the Traitors in your midst?

  224. Sumashik says:
    @Anon

    Circumcision would almost certainly never have become as common in America if it weren’t for Judaism. It’s true that the private healthcare system has been central to this (to the point it became standard policy in many US hospitals during the peak era, the 70′s-early 80′s, to circumcise without parental consent) and there is a significant long-running monetary incentive, but the sheer persistence and popularity, especially when compared to other Anglo countries owes ultimately to Judaism. That Clopper video touches upon how influential Jews have been in promoting it in America (and elsewhere on the part of America, like with AIDS in Africa), and just consider the Gomco clamp, the most widely used circumcision device in American history (and invented in the 30′s)- it’s literally named for the “Goldstein Medical Company.” Another widely used one, the Mogen Clamp- “mogen” is hebrew for “shield.”

  225. Skeptikal says:

    Interesting analysis of the structure and activities of the oligarchic clans in Ukraine.
    Presence/activities of Mossad mentioned at ca. 4:14.

  226. utu says:
    @APilgrim

    Good example of you being way off on reality. I have noticed it before on several occasions.

    • Replies: @Wally
  227. Wally says:
    @utu

    ‘Impossible Nazi gas chambers’ believing utu telling someone they are “way off on reality” is rather like Rosie McDonald telling Michael Moore he is fat.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Anon
  228. @APilgrim

    My mistake. I should have realized that something as insignificant as objective reality would never have the slightest impact on your delusions.

    Carry on.

  229. tac says:
    @Heros

    It’s also just past the one year mark that Ernst Zundel died so an article that encapsulates his struggle against the ardent Jewish fanatics who hounded him to no ends follows:

    August 5, 2018 marks the one year anniversary of Ernst Zündel’s passing. He was essentially kidnapped from the U.S. and forced to remain in Germany. His wife, Ingrid Rimland, was unable to leave the U.S. to be with him. She risked jail time in Germany despite having no previous criminal convictions.

    His crime? Ernst Zündel was deemed a “security threat.” Not because he was ever violent or ever incited violence, but because he created a legal precedent in which:

    For the first time ever, “Holocaust” survivors and “Holocaust” historians were closely and critically questioned under oath about their claims and views.

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/when-truth-fears-investigation-on-august-5th-we-honor-the-life-of-ernst-zundel/

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @Heros
  230. utu says:
    @Wally

    Whether I believe in gas chambers or not is besides the point because I am agnostic on the issue. But I know one thing for sure that arguments offered by German Rudolf that gassing did not occur in Birkenau are insufficient and inadequate.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @James Forrestal
  231. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews are the new fascists. Of course with the Bolshevik revolution we already know that they have always had that fascist blood in them. If the Nazi’s target were not Jews themselves but some other group like the Poles or gypsies, Jews would most surely have been Hitler’s most trusted henchmen and the cruelest of all Nazi executioners, like Trotsky and his Red Army for Lenin.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  232. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    I honestly don’t give a care what Israel does, I just want the US to end all ties with them, stop all forms of aid, from monetary to military to political. All Zionists, Jewish or otherwise (Pence, Bolton, Haley and 90% of our congress, Javanka) all need to GTFO. Move the heck to Israel. Goodbye and good riddance.

  233. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Forget about the gas. You need to stop smoking what you’re smoking.

    • Replies: @Heros
  234. Wally says:
    @utu

    Laughable and you’re lying.

    I demonstrated just the opposite. Everybody, once again at: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-post-war-france-and-post-war-germany/ comment 429:

    Leave it to a True Believer like you, that when embarrassed by his futile, amateurish, and unscientific attempt to support his belief in the impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers’, then hilariously claims to be “agnostic on the issue”.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @utu
  235. @Wally

    What is the exact title of the book ?
    But the story reminds me of what Günter Grass wrote, as a German POW he had to work at a USA base.
    When the USA education officer came to lecture them on Nazism, he and his companions, they knew english, asked why he did not begin with the USA whites against blacks, they daily witnessed USA racism
    Günter Grass, ‘Beim Häuten der Zwiebel’, München 2008
    Grass grew up in Danzig, the book also is interesting because he describes Polish discrimination of Germans.

  236. @CanSpeccy

    Bad reader, the Lithuanians killed their jews before the arrival of German troops.
    Jan T. Gross, ‘Neighbours, The Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland, 1941’, 2003, London
    In Jedwabne the Germans did not prevent the murder of the jews, but did end it.

    • Replies: @utu
  237. Tom67 says:

    Hi Mr Unz
    You might be interested in an article by German journalist Gaby Weber. It is about Adolf Eichmann and the fact that the official story doesn´t tally whatsoever. Before you read it please keep in mind that Gaby Weber is high regarded in Germany. She is one of our few honest journalists. Yes, indeed it is more than strange that Eichmann had been on the loose for so long. Everybody knew where he was and he even had contact with Jews in Argentina who knew who he was. It is also true that Eichmann knew Hebrew and had had contacts with high ranking zionists. There is a transcript of a long, long interview with former SS man (and sought after war criminal) Willem Sassen where he admitted all of that. In fact Eichmann had been representative of Standard Oil in the middle East until 1933. The interview with Sassen is indeed be very interesting. But, but, but although Gaby Weber won a court case in Germany which resulted in her receiving a transcript not everything was transferred. And parts of that which has been transferred are not legible. Gaby Weber posits that Eichmann was delivered to Israel (not by the Mossad) to blackmail the German government. But why not also to keep him from blackmailing the Israeli government? Please by all means read it. From my knowledge of post war German history the link she makes between Globke, the Israeli nuclear program and the trial of Eichmann seems solid.
    And by the way: why not contact Gaby Weber and ask her to send you the originals of the Sassen interview? Some of it was not legible but I think with enough computer power and the right software plus scanners you might be able to get everything.
    She has her own website at: gabyweber.com. From her website the English version of one of her numerous articles on Eichmann: http://www.gabyweber.com/dwnld/artikel/EICHMANN%20DLF%20ENGL.pdf

  238. Seraphim says:

    A book to be consulted is:

    “Jabotinsky’s Children: Polish Jews and the Rise of Right-Wing Zionism, AuthorDaniel Kupfert Heller

    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2017/10/20/jabotinsky-zionist-case-fascism/

    This is a quote from a discourse of one of the leaders of Betar (possibly Jabotinsky himself)

    “It has to be said fiercely and succinctly: we are fascists, Jewish fascists.” With these words, D. Stabiecki, a Revisionist living in Rome appealed to Polish Jews…to adopt the politics of Mussolini’s Italy…
    The chief mission of the Revisionist movement, he argued, was to give birth to the fascist Jew. This new Jew would “glorify physical strength” and strive toward “the will to power”–the notion that, as Nietzsche put it, “life itself is essentially a process of appropriating, injuring, overpowering the alien and the weaker…”
    The fascist Jew’s code of ethics would follow a simple formula: “[E]verything that serves the building of the Jewish state is good. Everything that damages the construction of the Jewish state is bad…” He argued the new fascist Jew would wage war against socialists and communists on the “Jewish street” and be “prepared to use all means to stop them, not excluding physical force.” He would proudly declare that the “democratic-liberal idea is not holy to us. If the realization of democratic thinking can lead to destroying the ideal of the Jewish state, we can also be anti-democratic.”

    We know that Benzion Netanyahu was secretary of Jabotinsky for a short while and was extremely active in the Revisionist Zionism.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Skeptikal
  239. Heros says:
    @Skeptikal

    From Arts quote from MK above:

    “Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.”

    One minute a subsistence farmboy, the next “I am an ethnic German”, next a WASP whose grandmother went to Vassar, next a jew whose mother and uncle were jewish. Hitler had you nailed.

    What I would like to know is why are you so ashamed of being jewish that you pretend to be German?

  240. @Wizard of Oz

    there is no book saying “all that”….and won’t be one unless/until I write it. Here are some useful references on various strands of the argument:

    1. Zionist-Nazi collaboration before and during WW2:

    Brenner, L.: Zionism in the Age of the Dictators (Westport, 1983)
    : 51 Documents – Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis (Ft. Lee, 2002)
    Arendt, Hannah: Eichmann in Jerusalem (NY, orig. 1963; republ. 2006)
    Bauer, Yehuda: Jews For Sale – Nazi/Jewish Negotiations, 1933-1945 (New Haven, 1994)
    Black, Edwin: The Transfer Agreement (NY, 1984)
    Groth, Alex: Accomplices – Churchill, Roosevelt, and the Holocaust (NY, n.d.)
    Adler, H.G.: Theresienstadt (Cambridge, 2017)
    Rothkirchen, Livia: “Zionist Character of the ‘Self-Government’ of Theresienstadt…”, Yad Vashem Studies v. XI/1976, pp. 56-90
    Nicosia, Francis: Third Reich and the Palestine Question (New Brunswick, 2000)

    [MORE]

    2. Zionist Terrorism in Europe and Palestine, 1920′s – 1940′s

    Bell, J. Bowyer: Terror Out of Zion (NY, 1977)
    Rokeach, Livia: Israel’s Sacred Terrorism…(Belmont, 1986)
    Suarez, Thomas: State of Terror – How Terrorism Created Modern Israel (Bloxham, 2016)
    Ben-Yahuda, Nachman: Political Assassinations by Jews (Albany, 1993)
    Giladi, N.: Ben-Gurion’s Scandals (Tempe, 2003)
    Imonti, F. & M.: Violent Justice (Amherst, 1994)
    Schwab, Gerald: Day the Holocaust Began – Odyssey of Herschel Grynszpan (NY, 1990)

    3. Churchill and his Zionist Owners

    Lough, David: No More Champagne – Churchill and His Money (NY, 2015)
    Irving, David: Churchill’s War (NY, 1987)
    Gilbert, Martin: Churchill and the Jews (NY, 2007)
    Makovsky, Michael: Churchill’s Promised Land – Zionism and Statecraft (New Haven,
    2007)

    4. Escalating the War, Forcing the Jew-Kill: Norway, Greece, Yugoslavia, 1940-41

    Derry, T.K.: The Campaign in Norway (London, 1953)
    Long, Gavin: Greece, Crete, and Syria (Adelaide, 1953)
    Mitchell, Ruth: The Serbs Choose War (NY, 1943)
    St. John, Robert: From the Land of Silent People (NY, 1942)
    Browning, Christopher: Fateful Months…(NY, 1985)

    5. The Russo-German War, 1941: anti-Jewish operations by Einsatzgruppe/Order Police

    Arad, Yitzhak et al., eds.: The Einsatzgruppen Reports (NY, 1989)
    Hilberg, Raul (ed.): Documents of Destruction (Chicago, 1971)
    Rhodes, Richard: Masters of Death…(NY, 2002)
    Headland, Ronald: Messages of Murder – A Study of the Reports…(London, 1992)

    6. What did the Brit Zionists know…and When?

    Bankier, David: Secret Intelligence and the Holocaust (NY, 2006)
    Breitman, Richard: Official Secrets (NY, 1998)
    Hanyok, Robert: Eavesdropping on Hell – Historical Guide to Western Communications
    Intelligence and the Holocaust (Washington, 2011)

    7. January-June, 1942: forced labor or extermination?

    Rosenman, Mark: The Wansee Conference…A Reconsideration (NY, 2002)
    Browning, Christopher: Nazi Policy, Jewish Workers…(Cambridge, 2002)
    Gruner, Wolf: Jewish Forced Labor Under the Nazis, Economic Needs and Racial Aims,
    1938-1944 (Cambridge, 2006)

    8. Relighting the Fires: The Heydrich Hit and the “Einsatz Reinhard” Death Camps

    MacDonald, Callum: The Killing of Reinhard Heydrich (NY, 1998)
    Dederichs, Mario: Heydrich…(London, 2006)
    Arad, Yitzhak: Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka…(Bloomington, 1987)
    O’Neil, Robin: Belzec, @ http://jewishgen.org/yizkor/belzec1/belzec1.html
    Steiner, J.-F.: Treblinka (NY, 1967)

    9. Auschwitz 1942-44, labor camp and killing center

    Czech, Danuta: Auschwitz Chronicle (London, 1990)
    Naumann, Bernd: Auschwitz (NY, 1966)
    N/A: KL Auschwitz As Seen By the SS (Warsaw, 1991)
    Greif, Gideon: We Wept Without Tears – Testimonies of the Jewish Sonderkommando from
    Auschwitz (New Havne, 2005)

    10. Himmler + Brit Intel, life and liquidation of the Lublin district Jewish labor camps

    Allen, Martin: Himmler’s Secret War – The Covert Peace Negotiations (NY, 2006)
    Grabitz, Helge & W. Scheffler: Letzte Spuren – Ghetto Warschau, SS-Arbetislager Trawniki,
    Aktion Erntefest (Berlin, 1988)
    Hoffenberg, Samuel: Le Camp de Poniatowa – Liquidation des Derniers Juifs de Varsovie
    (Paris, 1988)
    Marszalek, Jozef: Majdanek (Warsaw, 1986)

    11. Zion and the 1944 Deportation of Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz

    Bogdanor, Paul: Kasztner’s Crime (New Brunswick, 2016)
    Hecht, Ben: Perfidy (NY, 1961)
    Cesarani, David, ed.: Genocide and Rescue: the Holocaust in Hungary 1944 (Oxford, 1997)
    Braham, Randolph, ed.: Tragedy of Hungarian Jewry (NY, 1986)

    12.: 1945: the mythic “six million”

    Heddesheimer, Don: The First Holocaust – Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns with Holocaust
    Claims During and After World War One
    (Chicago, 2005)
    Rassinier, Paul: les Drame des Juifs Europeen (Paris, 1964)

  241. Heros says:
    @Anon

    Run Wally run! An anonymous jew is kvetching and spitting at you. He is furious because you have exposed his lies, and he cannot debate you. So he spits.

  242. Heros says:
    @tac

    The jews played every dirty trick in the Talmud on Zundel, except extracting his blood. All the years in jail and loss of freedom do represent another heinous crime against us Christians though. I hope jews sometimes consider what it would take to rebalance those scales, but we all know they are too busy planning the kidnap of their next Christian child for their blood letting rituals.

    I love watching Zundel’s Samisdat clips on Youtube, jonrobinson101 posts them. The fanfare introduction is great and always gives me a warm feeling, although my wife hates it. Here is his youtube channel:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe8NfMkWJ27PsBKfOTb8bUw

  243. @Haxo Angmark

    Thank you very much. And… please write the book.

  244. Anon[861] • Disclaimer says:

    “Seriously, this series just keeps getting better and better. It almost feels as though we’re building up to some great dénouement … wonder what that would be!”

    A true account of the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust? I’ve done some rudimentary searches for sources that provide evidence for the 6 million figure and haven’t found much. It mostly seems to be repeating claims that have long since become fact by mere repetition. I’m not denying it happened, I just want to see clear cut, undeniable figures – 6 million, 5 million, 1 million? Body counts at concentration camps (counts that clearly distinguish between Russian, Jew, and other), population figures before and after that account for migration/displacement due to war, elimination of statistical artifacts and double counting, etc.

    • Replies: @Wally
  245. Anon[697] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    You make yourself sound unbalanced when you suggest that those 1936 and 1939 rejections of hostage/ransom deals are relevant to the fate of Jews once WW2 started. Cp. The sometimes honoured declarations that we don’t negotiate with or pay ransoms to terrorists. The objections to the German 1930s proposals were at least defensible and most would say principled when appeasement was the order of the day.

    • Replies: @renfro
  246. annamaria says:
    @Seraphim

    This is a nice cherry for the Mielkovsky family story. Guess Bibi has become aware of that, which explains his revisionist approach (positive) to Nazism in Germany and to neo-Nazism in Ukraine.

  247. utu says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Nonsense.

    I begin to suspect that you are an AI program that is subjected to reading tonnes of books from which it can occasionally extract one or two sentences of some meaning but it is beyond its ability to make judgments and evaluation of the reading material.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  248. utu says:
    @Wally

    Stop projecting, Wally. I am not a true believer. I keep asking questions. Unlike you I know what I do not know and then I know I am a conscious agnostic. I know what is a difference between believing and knowing. Unlike you I know that German Rudolf’s work can’t be used to disprove gassings in Auschwitz. Issues like these might be way too complex for your simple brain, Wally.

    When forced to engage in exchanges with you I feel like talking to a dog which is faithful to a single binary idea, to serve its master w/o questions and doubts. I like dogs so I am internally conflicted about you as long as I can imagine you as a puppy. But I am sure if I saw your real stupid mug I would stop entertaining any ideas of humanizing you via a dog image.

    You are doing a disservice to legitimate historical revisionism. CODOH benefits Zionist narrative of the WWII. The extreme denialism is beneficial to Zionists. I would not be surprised that CODOH and similar outfits were secretly funded by ZIONIST.

    • Replies: @tac
    , @Wally
    , @Colin Wright
  249. annamaria says:
    @anon

    The revelation of Zio-Nazism in the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine) https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-07/zuesse-real-americanized-nazi-dominated-ukraine
    “In US ‘news’media, the overthrow and replacement of Ukraine’s democratically elected government was ‘the Maidan Revolution’, or ‘the 2014 Ukrainian revolution’, not Obama’s coup in Ukraine. They lie blatantly, and they’ll never be truthful about their having done it…
    The US-imposed regime [in Kiev] has even perpetrated massacres against Ukrainians who speak Russian, and insists upon conquering or else killing them all.
    Here are America’s taxpayer-financed Ukrainian nazis teaching children in today’s Ukrainian public schools, and even honoring and displaying a picture of Adolf Hitler’s face. …”

    – This should be a song for Bibi and his father Benzione who was a loyal disciple of Jabotinsky, a committed fascist and follower of the ideology of Nazism.

    A minor detail: Currently, “Volodymyr Groysman is the first ethnically Jewish Prime Minister of Ukraine.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Groysman

    • Replies: @Wally
  250. @L.K

    To “completely” refute all the books that Unz has provided, you give a link to an article that quotes Paul Drucker from 1939. Thanks, but I’ll look at more independent thinkers and researchers than rely on a source that wrote for ‘The Economist.’

    • Replies: @L.K
  251. fnn says:
    @L.K

    An article at Counter-Currents also covered this issue and cites sources Bolton left out:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/12/german-big-business-and-the-rise-of-hitler/

    • Replies: @L.K
  252. I would think that any American political figure found to have supported a military alliance with Nazi Germany during the Second World War would have had a very difficult time surviving the resulting political scandal

    Like the Communist party during the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact era?

    pioneered the use of terrorist car-bombs and other explosive attacks

    Anarchists and Narodnaya Volya were bombing things in the 19th century.

  253. @utu

    When this kind of ‘reply’ is made I know the opponent has nothing to say any more.
    So, thanks for the compliment

  254. @Haxo Angmark

    I miss the Irgun Eichmann cooperation
    Yitshaq Ben-Ami, ‘Years of wrath, Days of glory Memoirs from the Irgun’, New York, 1982

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  255. @James Forrestal

    Struggle to me is the right translation.
    About translations, ausrotten is weeding out, not necessarily killing: the Magaskar plan.
    Final Solution, the same, also Madagaskar Plan, after the war.
    In the meantime work: The Auschwitz words Arbeit macht frei, working liberates, probably liberating from being schmarotzer, parasites.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  256. Anonymous[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    About translations, ausrotten is weeding out, not necessarily killing:

    Remove from? Root out?

  257. tac says:
    @utu

    [1] Curated Lies:

    {from @10:[email protected]}

    Well then, there is certainly enough technical means/personnel today to settle the debate with multiple independent groups of experts (non-Jewish as to avoid any predisposed emotional bias) who could analyze the evidence at all those cites, have them peer reviewed and then presented to the public so people can make up their own minds. Oooops, there is just one problem; a certain clique of powerful ardent Jewish control freaks who have made it their life’s work to see that NO independent analysis can be done on those cites. It’s sacrilege to do so (too offensive). Well, utu, emotion/taboo is not evidence in lieu of facts. Why do you suppose that is? Surely, if most of what we’ve been led to believe is true (perhaps with some small measure of correction) why not let the evidence speak for itself? If one is agnostic on the matter why do you suppose any such attempt is ruthlessly quashed and the antisemite cards start flying abound?

    Lets examine the Crematorium I in the video reference in [1]. The original German blueprints of the building are made available of the building in the video {@31:[email protected]:40}. Why do you suppose the building has been modified in 1944/46-47? Why has the original door entrance separating the [d] incinerator room from [c] ‘morgue’ (original plan had a unsealed, lock-less, wooden door which swings both ways)?

    What is the point (what is gained by) of removing the ‘insertion shafts in the ceiling’ when converting it to an air-raid shelter? When taking the ‘reconstructed’ view (original walls removed from the ‘morgue’) notice the distribution of the ‘insertion shafts’ is rather awkward in (a) the original plan containing 2 separation walls {@26:[email protected]}, (b) the modified 1944 air-raid shelter, which contain additional 3 separation walls and a newly created entrance to the building put there at that time {@26:[email protected]:00} (BOTH aforementioned scenarios (a) & (b) in terms of measurements offsets from the walls themselves to the shafts is varied and sloppy and given the German meticulous designs rather impossible to imagine), NOW (c) compared to the further ‘reconstruction in 46-47′–having all of the separation walls that where added during the 1944 (b) plus the removal of 1 of the 2 original walls–when all of the aforementioned walls are removed (one from the original plan and 3 from the modified air-shelter ‘reconstruction’ leaving only the original wall at one end of the ‘morgue’ and the ‘modified entrance added 1946-1947) ALL OF A SUDDEN THE MEASUREMENT ALIGN PERFECTLY 7.1 meters and 5.1 meters respectively EQUIDISTANT in the TWICE ‘MODIFIED’ reconstruction {@27:[email protected]:18}?

  258. Wally says:
    @utu

    Yet you asserted your belief in the fictitious ‘gas chambers, as I have shown. You said what you said, utu. Get over it, grow up.

    And, again, I have shown that Rudolf’s work does demolish the ‘gas chamber’ lie.
    You said what you said and I refuted it with Rudolf’s research.
    Link was provided. Hurts don’t it?

    CODOH readership is booming.
    Your fake ‘disservice to Revisionism’ claim is a classic canard, an amateurish attempt at that. And your laughable ‘secretly funded by Zionists’ moonbeam silliness is without any proof, of course. It is another dead give away as to your attempts to discredit CODOH & “Holocaust” Revisionism in general. You’re fooling no one.

    Remember, it was you who stared this little war we have, but it is I who has the facts and the upper hand. Your obsession with me means I own you.

    Not to mention the slapdowns others here have put on you.

    Cheers.

    http://www.codoh.com

  259. Wally says:
    @annamaria

    Please explain what you mean by “Zio-Nazism” and what is wrong about it.

  260. Wally says:
    @Anon

    The complete lack of claimed human remains, claimed to exist in supposedly known locations is the coup de grace.

    You should reject the claims without hesitation, there simply is no proof of the scientifically impossible narrative. That is why free speech about it is banned in Europe and attempts are being made to ban free speech about it in the US.
    read: https://www.aegistrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Letter-to-M.Zuckerberg.pdf

    The whole thing is falling apart and panic is setting in.
    Only lies need to be shielded from debate, truth welcomes it.
    Truth is ‘hate’ to those that hate the truth.

    http://www.codoh.com
    ask questions, debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

  261. syonredux says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘… Meanwhile, blacks were almost entirely barred from combat service, though they sometimes served in strictly-segregated support roles…’

    Not really. Two all-black divisions were formed and entered combat.

    I particularly enjoyed this howler by Ron:

    The notion that an American with any appreciable trace of African, Japanese, or for that matter Chinese ancestry might serve as a general or even an officer in the U.S. military and thereby exercise command authority over white American troops would have been almost unthinkable.

    Ron, the first Black American general was Benjamin O Davis….and he attained the rank of Brigadier General in 1940….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_O._Davis_Sr.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @David
    , @Ron Unz
  262. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    A long list Zionist propaganda authors who merely cite each others unproven assertions, but not a single quote posted related to the fictional ’6M’. I suggest that you have not even read what you cite, or perhaps you are afraid to quote from them for fear of being made to look foolish.

    BTW, not a single one has actually shown us the claimed millions of Jew remains.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  263. Druid55 says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Excellent and thanks for info

  264. @syonredux

    ‘I particularly enjoyed this howler by Ron…’

    To be fair to Ron, he’s merely fallen for that fable that them poor black folks were savagely, relentlessly, and universally oppressed from 1877 to 1964.

    There’s some truth to that, but as with most fables, the historical truth is actually somewhat more nuanced. There were instances of blacks lynching whites in the Old South, in World War One a black unit ran amok in Houston or something, killing quite a few white civilians, and by World War Two, much of the white establishment was actually trying to bring about equality for the Negro. A least one of those all-black divisions I mentioned earlier for example, was assigned one of the best and the brightest as its commander, and when it proceeded to disappoint anyway, it was covered up.

    We persistently attempt to reinvent the past so that it is simple, clear, and morally unambiguous. Actually, it was the same dreadful mess as the present is, and almost no unqualified judgement can be made on it at all.

    • Replies: @Anon
  265. L.K says:
    @Jon Baptist

    Unz’s article is not about this issue and neither are the books mentioned.

    The article I’ve linked to is SPECIFICALLY about the issue of the financing of the NS party.

    You obviously don’t have a clue as to what you are talking about.

    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
  266. @utu

    ‘…You are doing a disservice to legitimate historical revisionism. CODOH benefits Zionist narrative of the WWII. The extreme denialism is beneficial to Zionists. I would not be surprised that CODOH and similar outfits were secretly funded by ZIONIST.’

    This has the virtue of being more interesting than most conspiracy theories. I wonder if we can find any evidence?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    , @utu
  267. L.K says:
    @fnn

    Thanks fnn,

    I think I had seen it before but at a different website.

    Cheers

    • Troll: nagra
    • Replies: @nagra
  268. @L.K

    You can continue to verbally attack all you want. You just reveal yourself. Unz’s article is titled ‘Jews and Nazis.’ Hjalmar Schacht was appointed by Hitler in 1933 to be president of the Reichsbank. The bank’s general council, that included Warburg, Mendelssohn, and Wassermann co-signed this appointment of Schacht along with Hitler. Warburg’s endeavors continued to make profits under Hitler right up to 1936. That is three years after “Judea” declared war on Germany in 1933. It’s obvious that there is collaboration at the highest levels of Germany’s banking establishment between the ‘Jews and Nazis’ at least up to 1936.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @utu
  269. @jilles dykstra

    to keep this little bibliography under control, I limited it to narratives and mostly left out firsthand accounts. But this one you cite is new to me. If I can find a copy, I’ll get it. Thanks for the reference.

  270. @Colin Wright

    the evidence is all around. The Jews eat this stuff up and use it to reinforce their persecution narrative. One instance would be the film “The 81st Blow”. According to which the evil goyim not only massacred the “6 million” (that’s the first 80 blows), but, for #81, “they won’t even admit that it happened…Oy Vay, its ANNUDUH holocaust!”

    just speaking for myself now, it’s OK by me if Wally and the CODOH crowd want to waste their time painting swastikas on the walls of synagogues…

    but I prefer to let the Rabbi do it himself.

  271. @Wally

    no, Wally, these volumes are mostly original research based on period documents and first-hand accounts by Jews, Nazis, + other perps and bystanders.

    and I’ve studied them all, plus thousands of other narratives and first-handers.

    now, see that flyspeck on the wall across from you? Yeah, that one. That’s what you know about the 1933-45 events. The rest of the wall is what I know.

    but, by all means, you and CODOH keep up the Talmudic nitpicking on whether some little hole in the mud 15 feet from a pile of rubble in Birkenau was (or was not) the hole through which an SS man dropped some gas pellets.

    such discussions are endlessly fascinating to us all.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @utu
    , @tac
  272. renfro says:
    @Anon

    I think your excusing them is ‘unbalanced’…….they were after all already screaming dire predictions for Jews under Hitler so why not spend the millions they were already raising on get them out.

  273. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    What original documents are you talking about?
    If you have really ‘studied them all’, then do tell us about them.

    Please tell us specifically about your “narratives”. Who said what exactly and in what court?

    Speaking of your ‘gas chambers’, I challenge you to tell us how they supposedly worked.

    Also please explain why the sham U.S. Holocau$t Memorial Museum displays a standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a gas chamber at Majdanek, see * below.

    Show us the alleged human remains that are claimed to exist in known locations.

    IOW, I’m calling your bluff. Let’s go, talk is cheap.

    [MORE]

    *U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a gas chamber at Majdanek
    see text: http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.html
    images:

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  274. Wally says:
    @Jon Baptist

    said:
    “The bank’s general council, that included Warburg, Mendelssohn, and Wassermann co-signed this appointment of Schacht along with Hitler.”

    I’m curious, do you have proof?
    May we see the actual claimed signed document?

    Always helps to have proof

    Thanks.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @utu
  275. utu says:
    @Colin Wright

    If the dust settles and under pressure of CODOH and similar outfits the Holocaust Industry is forced to admit that some claims were not true and some were exaggerated. That not 6 millions but 3.5 millions died. That gassings were a minor part of the operation and so on.

    You must understand, the numbers got inflated because we Jews as victims were so traumatized by the WWII that nobody had a nerve to do a scrupulous accounting. Are Nazis and you anti-Semites any less guilty that less than 6 millions Jews died? Then at worst Jews could be accused of confabulation and exaggeration but Holocaust would remain as a dominant and defining meme of Jews as eternal victims of gentile anti-Semitism. And only Jewish and Judaic full spectrum domination of Western culture can prevent this ever happening again. Confabulation and exaggeration is just a misdemeanor.

    But what if there is a much bigger crime like aiding and abetting by Zionists and Jewish elites? What if the decision was made that the Orthodox Hassidic Ostjuden of Eastern Europe had to be sacrificed for the benefit of the world Jewry and Zionism?

    • Replies: @tac
    , @Anon
    , @SolontoCroesus
    , @Wally
  276. David says:
    @syonredux

    Any idea if Whites served under Davis? The pic on wikepedia shows him before only Blacks.

  277. utu says:
    @Jon Baptist

    You are dealing with people who actually want to believe in purity and innocence of the Nazis so they can’t accept that Nazis were played and outplayed because they were more stupid than their opponents. They do not like any evidence showing Nazis making all kinds of deals with Jews and Zionists. The Nazis and Germans turned out to be the greatest useful idiots of the 20 century. The growth of Jewish power after the WWII would have never been thats strong and fast if it was not for Hitler and Holocaust. The 6 millions of victims whether real or imagined pays great dividends.

    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
  278. utu says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    and I’ve studied them all, plus thousands of other narratives and first-handers.

    now, see that flyspeck on the wall across from you? Yeah, that one. That’s what you know about the 1933-45 events. The rest of the wall is what I know.

    Great point. Both the official narrative of the Holocaust Industry and its negation by the deniers became artificial abstractions resembling each other.

  279. Reddings says:

    Just recently, this sight was blocked at my work so that one can not read these articles during break. Almost all other sights are accessible. Have others faced similar situation.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  280. utu says:
    @Wally

    “The bank’s general council, that included Warburg, Mendelssohn, and Wassermann co-signed this appointment of Schacht along with Hitler.”

    I’m curious, do you have proof?
    May we see the actual claimed signed document?

    The Warburgs: The Twentieth-Century Odyssey of a Remarkable Jewish Family, by Ron Chernow. New York: Random House, 1993. Hardcover. 820 pages.

    and

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n5p33_Weir.html

  281. Ron Unz says:
    @syonredux

    I particularly enjoyed this howler by Ron…Ron, the first Black American general was Benjamin O Davis….and he attained the rank of Brigadier General in 1940….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_O._Davis_Sr.

    You nailed me on that error—touche! That’s exactly what I get for not having taken all those Black History courses that supposedly dominate today’s public school curriculum…

    Still, glancing at the Wikipedia entry, it looks like he spent nearly all of those years as a staff officer, mostly just inspecting black troops overseas. Sounds a little like “tokenism” to me.

    Moreover, just as I’d suggested, it doesn’t look like he ever “exercised command authority” over white troops in combat. I’d be curious if you can locate any U.S. black officer of any rank who had ever done so in American history prior to Truman’s desegregation of the military.

  282. @utu

    Utu, I agree with you 100% on your comment.

  283. tac says:
    @utu

    For what it’s worth, utu, I am of the opinion that you are not a troll (simply from my observations and encounters with you), but someone who is attempting to weigh the evidence as best as one can–like most of us. Surely none of us see eye-to-eye on all matters, nor is that to be expected.

    Having said that, I sense, perhaps mistakenly, that this response to Colin was in some way an indirect response to the questions I posed to to you higher up in this thread. BTW, part of my question I accidentally erased, which had to do with why was the original door moved from the original design, and I meant site and not cite (autocorrect). If that is the best that I can hope for, in terms of a response, so be it. Miscalculated numbers of those killed or a few mistakes or embellishments is one this, but when one begins to see a trend in misinterpretations, distortions, fabrications, withholding of documents, and most importantly: A CONCERTED EFFORT TO INTIMIDATE, IMPOVERISH, IMPUGN, IMPRISON, or LIQUIDATE any such person who merely questions/examines/publishes any dissenting view that challanges the holocau$$$t narrative in the public forum–anywhere in the world–is launched immediately and financed by these interests coercing even the heads of government to make the end justify the means so much so that passing laws and then applying them EX POST FACTO is not even off limits. On top of this, monetizing this event for over seventy years and growing–to the complete exclusion of all others who were victimized and inventing absurd psychological conditions somehow commensurate to the trauma suffered by those present at the time are somehow transferred, without any loss of pain$$$, to their offspring, streches any strain of credulity.

    Therefore, no, any sense of legitimate empathy is simply drowned out by this despicable display of righteousness indignation whilst reaming all the benefits afforded aa a result. That is why it is the greatest hoax of the last few centuries, at the very least!

  284. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    But what if there is a much bigger crime like aiding and abetting by Zionists and Jewish elites?

    Is it possible there was even encouragement?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  285. @Wally

    1. do what I did, just for starters: read through and study the entire “Brown Series” Nazi document collection, c. 100 Vols. …there’s a set @ the Columbia U. Law Library. Then the other color-coded sets used to back the Nuremburg Lynch…errr…”Trials”: Blue Series, c. 60 vols., Red Series, about a dozen, and the Green Series, c. 8…the Red and Green volumes are available on the net at the Yale U. site. These volumes are full of material on the Jew-kill, some of it by high-ranking SS officers. For instance, SS-Major Konrad Morgen – a judge-advocate in the Reich Security Main Office – was sniffing out SS corruption in the administration of valuables confiscated from Jews in the Lublin labor camps just before and while these camps were liquidated (a.k.a. Operation Erntefest/”Harvest Festival”) on 3-4 November, 1943. Red Series, Supplement Vol. B, pp. 1309-1311 has an objective, detailed description by Morgen of what he witnessed in the Poniatowa LC during the early hours of November 4th, that is, the execution by shooting of c. 15,000 ex-Warsaw Jews and Jewesses. Denialist Jack Mattagno claims Harvest Festival “didn’t happen” because “the Reich was in desperate need of workers…”. True, but irrelevant: there was a security issue involved – the Jews in the Lublin camps got caught making contact with communist partisans and stockpiling weapons – and whenever security was involved, economic interests were shoved aside, and the SS/Police had their way with the Jews. Why “no bodies”? Because an SK of Russian POWS spent the next several weeks burning them on railroad ties. Another in the thousands of relevant documents would SS-Col. Karl Jaeger’s “Summary of Executions” (Hilberg, ed. Documents of Destruction, pp. 46-57) which details the day-to-day operations of Einsatzkommando A3 (c. 80 native recruits + 8 German officers) against Jews, communists, partisans, and civil criminals across Lithuania and parts of Latvia during July-December, 1941. Overall, Jaeger’s men shot c. 136,000 Jews of both sexes and all ages (his report gives date, location, and precise gender and age breakdowns for each mass execution) during this time frame; at Vilna on 2 September, for instance, “864 Jews, 2,019 Jewesses, 817 Jewish children” went to the execution pits at Ponary, just outside the city. On 12 November, Jaeger’s kommando shot “993 Jews, 1,670 Jewesses, 771 Jewish children”. 5 days later. “337 Jews, 687 Jewesses, 247 Jewish children, and 4 Lithuanian communists” were shot. And so on. How about some independent confirmation of the mass killings at Ponary from a neutral, non-Jew eyewitness? Read Kazimierz Sakowicz, Ponary Diary 1941-1943 (New Haven, 2005). Now, Wally, I could go on like this for a thousand pages…but this is a comment on someone else’s website. Perhaps you need to get your critical intellect outside the narrow confines of CODOH and into a vast mass of other documentation and firsthand accounts.

    2. gas chambers. The “gas chambers” in the in the various concentration camps located in eastern Germany – Dachau, Belsen, Sachsenhausen, etc. – didn’t work…because they never existed in the first place: they were faked, post-war, by Hollywood Jew (((Bud Schulberg))) and a US Army propaganda team. Thanks, revisionists, you got this right. The 4 large gas chamber/crematory structures in the Birkenau section of Auschwitz? According to the accounts of surviving Jew SK members, the Jews deemed unfit for work from each transport (the sick, elderly, and young mothers with children) were packed in like sardines to begin with; the heavy steel door was secured; and an SS officer poured some powerful insecticide in through a roof-vent; as the gas fumes rose upward from the decomposing pellets, the victims, slowly strangling, clawed and fought their upward into a pyramid of blood-spattered bodies and eventually died. The Jew SK men then hosed down the naked corpses and removed the bodies; some were burned in the crematory ovens, but most in outdoor incineration pits. And I’m aware of Fred Leuchter’s negative forensic findings re Zyklon residue in the blown-up postwar ruins. Interesting, but for the time being I’ll stick with the SK accounts. The many Jewish transports of 300 or less, were incidentally, not gassed but shot in one of the 4 crematory execution rooms. Gas chambers in the 3 Einsatz Reinhard death camps? Smaller, and used thick deisel exhaust to strangle the packed-in deportees. After initial foolscap attempts to bury the bodies – there were simply too many – these too were burned in open pits, and the bones and ashes dumped into the nearest convenient river.

    3. the “US Holocaust Museum” and its “gas chamber door from Maidanek”. Complete fraud, like most of the junk at this scam-”museum”. There were no gas chambers @ Maidanek. The 1944-45 “Soviet Investigatory Commission”, selfsame that put out a fantastic “1,700,000″ body count for this camp, faked it. Maidanek was a forced labor facility where Jews (and some Poles) were, on occasion, killed by shooting not gas. The largest of these occasions was 3 November, 1943, during day one of Aktion Erntefest: according to SS-Lt. Erich Mussfeldt, who witnessed the mass execution, some 11,000 Jews and 7,400 Jewesses were shot.

  286. tac says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    In the spirit of getting to truth, let’s mobilize numerous teams of independent experts (minus the Jews, for sake of having emotional prejudices in the matter that could be questioned AGAIN!) and get to it; so that, you know, NO ONE WOULD BE LEFT TO SPECULATE, ergo: no one is a flyspeck on any wall, even Wally….right?! Evidence speaks for itself, except when it happens to be the holocau$$$t narrative (but what about the uncomfortable yet daming contradictions thereof)??

    Why is it exactly when one gets close to examining this topic–without historical precedence–in any highly visible/distributable public forum one is met in opposition with full force of a certain clique that will stop at nothing in order to terminate ANY dissenting view? Why is it so ferociously attacked and guarded? Write your books if you have verifiable first-hand evidence that can then be peer reviewed–as one of our (((Australian))) friends ALMOST ALWAYS demands, with the ‘minor’ exception of the holocau$$$t narrative. One wonders why this double-standard?

  287. @utu

    But what if there is a much bigger crime like aiding and abetting by Zionists and Jewish elites? What if the decision was made that the Orthodox Hassidic Ostjuden of Eastern Europe had to be sacrificed for the benefit of the world Jewry and Zionism?

    Bingo.

    At Mount Sinai, Yahweh told Moses to direct the Levites to kill Jews.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  288. @Haxo Angmark

    @ your #3:

    . . .the liberal-left wing of organized Jewry attempted to strangle the newborn Nazi regime in its crib via an international boycott of German exports, but the more powerful Zionist wing stepped in, broke the boycott, and arranged the Transfer Agreement: by which the Nazi economy revived and scores of thousands of German Jews – along with plenty of equipment and capital – poured into Palestine.

    These two seemingly opposing groups of Jews were actually working together for the same goal. Rabbi Stephen Wise was a zionist fanatic; he played at opposing the Transfer Agreement, but it was a feint; Wise was carrying out uber Zionist Louis Brandeis’s directive to ensure that “all Jews leave Germany — all 587,000 German Jews.” As Edwin Black explains, “Palestine needed their money.”

    The economic boycott of Germany, intended to destroy German exports, began in March 1933.
    The massive Jewish protests and demonization of Germans began early in 1933.
    um, there was no holocaust in 1933.

    Disregard the newscaster’s “agonizing choice” rhetoric —

  289. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    You really are in over your head. Your ‘holocaust-lite’ attempt is preposterous.

    Your alleged Jaeger Report demolished here: Jaeger Report: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4248
    That bogus ‘report’ is part of the claimed 2,000,000 Jews supposedly killed by the Einsatzgruppen, I see you dodged my comment 142 in this thread to you about that claim.

    As for your alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process, it’s reviewed and demolished here: http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly
    Also see links & videos below. *

    You do realize your claimed diesel gassings are impossible as alleged, don’t you?
    see: Diesel Gas Chambers: Ideal for Torture – Absurd for Murder, by Friedrich Paul Berg: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndieselgc.html

    Aktion Erntefest at Majdanek? Where residents of the city of Lublin had a full view of Majdanek? LOL
    “Operation Harvest Festival” (Aktion Erntefest) fakery shot down: https://codoh.com/library/document/3331/?lang=en No alleged mass graves there either.
    You don’t even know the story you’re trying defend. The narrative says there were big time gassings at Majdanek, impossible as they would have been.

    Also, on the Reinhardt camps see: The “Extermination Camps” of “Aktion Reinhardt”
    An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious “Evidence,” Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation of the “Holocaust Controversies” Bloggers

    By Jürgen Graf , Carlo Mattogno , Thomas Kues: https://codoh.com/library/document/3052/?lang=en

    [MORE]

    * The Rudolf Report
    Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz

    http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html

    Auschwitz—The Surprising Hidden Truth: http://codoh.com/library/document/1527
    and:
    ‘Some Technical and Chemical Considerations
    about the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz and Birkenau’
    by master chemist Germar Rudolf
    : http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html
    and:
    Juergen Graf : The Fate of Unregistered Auschwitz Inmates:

    and
    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau:

  290. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    To finish your references which show no documents:

    Please tell us what are in the Nuremberg Show Trial records that you find compelling.
    Specifics please. Do you even know?

    You cite the laughable Ponary claims while ignoring: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-anti-semitism-a-century-ago/
    my comment # 550 showing the alleged & utterly impossible site

    Frankly, you just do not know what you are talking about.

    Cheers

    http://www.codoh.com

  291. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Re 1.

    at Vilna on 2 September, for instance, “864 Jews, 2,019 Jewesses, 817 Jewish children” went to the execution pits at Ponary, just outside the city. On 12 November, Jaeger’s kommando shot “993 Jews, 1,670 Jewesses, 771 Jewish children”. 5 days later. “337 Jews, 687 Jewesses, 247 Jewish children, and 4 Lithuanian communists” were shot.

    Have the bodies been exhumed from these execution pits?

    Re 2.

    Historians do not generally consider survivor accounts to be credible.

    Re 3.

    How were the bodies of the roughly 20,000 people shot that day disposed of?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  292. Heros says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    You certainly seem to have extensive knowledge about the wars. Can you comment on the Masons hidden hand in the lead up and wind down of WWII? Hitler supposedly shut down all the masonic lodges except for one Prussian lodge, of which it is speculated that he was a member. What about the Cannaris assassination plot, were the Freimaurer involved there?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  293. Heros says:

    The following comment is relevant to this Nazi to Zionist connection because it shows how depraved and devious this collective of child murderers is, and therefore how naiive even the most ardent Nazi’s were:

    “Former abortion worker: We wanted teen girls to get 3 to 5 abortions each”

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/former-abortion-worker-we-wanted-teen-girls-to-get-3-to-5-abortions-each

    What do they do with the blood?

    [MORE]

    Did it ever impact the people inside the clinics, seeing the results of abortion?

    I had one women walk out on me very early when I was barely in there. She worked in the first clinic I worked in, and she was the central supply technician. She was the one that reconstructed the babies all the time, put them down the disposal and cleaned the instruments. And she came in one morning and said, “I can’t do it anymore.”

    “Reconstructed” the babies! How sick that they use this hidden insult to the confederacy to associate that south with abortions. She means after the organs were extracted. We know from Kevin Okeefe’s hidden camera clips of Planned Parenthood that they have been harvesting the organs of aborter fetuses. (((They))) would have us believe that there is a booming market for goyim fetuses for “experiments” and most importantly sacred “science”. I don’t buy it.

    You said before that there were different ways of ensuring you could make these girls repeat customers. What were those?

    We wanted to be certain they liked us, and of course we were nice to them. But we passed out defective condoms to the boys–we didn’t buy the best condoms you know, we bought seconds or defective condoms. And when the girls came in for their abortion we gave them a pack of birth control pills. We told them to start taking them on Saturdays, that way they would never have a pill on the weekend. And we passed out low-dose birth control pills[that] we knew must be taken effectively at the same time every day in order to provide a level of effectiveness. We knew most girls would not take them accurately, and we knew that she would become pregnant again. And actually, those are the ones we went to the schools and passed out–the low-dose birth control pills we knew the girls would get pregnant on. Our goal was to get three to five abortions between the ages of 13 and 18 from every young woman.

    How often was that successful?

    Very successful. Over 50%. I saw one women who had her 9th abortion. You know, we became friends with some of those women.”

    How much black-magick power does a kabbalist get for the sacrifice of a 100 million Christian souls? From the consumption of their blood in rituals?

  294. @SolontoCroesus

    Seems unlikely.
    Frankfurter was one of the architects of WWII, he wrote the LendLease law, the law gave FDR unlimited powers to give any country weapons, food, etc, apparently for free.
    Shortly after the deportations of jews to camps in Poland had begun a jew escaped, was smuggled through Europe to Portugal, then to the USA, where he spoke to Frankfurter about the camps.
    What he said exactly, I never found out.
    Anyhow, Frankfurter answered ‘I do not believe on word you’re saying’.
    This puzzled me for a long time, until I found a much later comment by Frankfurter ‘I did not say he was lying, I did not believe him’.
    My interpretation, Frankfurter had never expected that Hitler would execute his threat of 1939 about ‘ausrotten’ of jews ‘if they again started a world war’.
    The LendLease agreed price for GB: no more import duties to the empire, thus the dissolution of the empire.
    The price for Russia, agreed or not, 20 million deaths, but the acquisition of E Europe, that brought the USSR down, occupation is costly.
    The world is a madhouse.
    Most of the time has been.
    In the few years of peace any time many prospered.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Wally
    , @renfro
  295. @Haxo Angmark

    ” 3 November, 1943, during day one of Aktion Erntefest: according to SS-Lt. Erich Mussfeldt, who witnessed the mass execution, some 11,000 Jews and 7,400 Jewesses were shot. ”

    How one shoots over 18.000 people in one day, has anyone explained how they accomplished this ?
    And where, under what circumstances, did Mussfeldt make his statement ?
    Who is interested in how the interrogations went, even in the official records, read
    Richard Overy, ‘Interrogations, the Nazi elite in Allied hands, 1945’, London 2001
    About the use of insecticide Zyklon B for gassing humans, three or so sentences.
    An inofficial description of the ‘interrogations’, torture in fact:
    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

  296. @jilles dykstra

    The battle over the concentration camps, how many killed, how, why etc. interests me very little.

    The period from 1933 to 1939 — especially the earliest part of that — is what is most significant: Who WANTED to destabilize Europe, why and how?
    Who started the war? Cui bono?
    Who kicked away the pebble that allowed the boulder to inevitably roll down hill and inevitably land on the heads of Eastern European Jews?

    Furthermore, and with direct reference to Frankfurter, he is the one person who influenced FDR to seek a third term because it was essential, from Frankfurter’s point of view, that USA continue to pursue war. Richard Moe reports this in Roosevelt’s Second Act: The Election of 1940 and the Politics of War. For a supreme court justice to engage in the close, personal consultation with the president was a momentous violation of FF’s position.

    That answer is not at all difficult; it actually starts well before 1933, while The Great War was still raging– Chaim Weizmann traded the defeat of Germany for the Balfour Declaration.

    It is broadly acknowledged that the Versailles Treaty set the conditions for the second war. Rabbi Wise, Louis Brandeis & others formed the American Jewish Congress precisely to represent “Jewish interests” at Versailles. Their delegation, as well as Bernard Baruch and other Jews who surrounded Wilson, dominated the peace conferences and returned with “a dual triumph for zionists” — decisions that set the stage for turmoil US leaders are still dealing with.

    Then, within two weeks of Hitler taking power, Louis Brandeis, who was passionately committed to the zionist project and was considered the leader of world-wide zionists, directed that “all Jews leave Germany. . . . All 587,000 German Jews must leave . . .” (Brandeis to Wise, ~Feb. 14, 1933; recorded in Wise’s autobiography, The Challenging Years.)

    That Wise recorded the number is significant: there were tens of thousands more Jews in Germany at the time: Polish and Russian Jews poured into Germany, a safe harbor in the chaos of Russian Revolution and the animus toward Jews expressed by Polish gentiles. Brandeis — and eugenicist Arthur Ruppin — were not as interested in welcoming East European Jews to migrate; they required wealthy German Jews to finance Palestine, and educated Jews as the “human material” for the “new Jew” to populate Palestine. The rest were expendable. Brandeis and Wise knew these realities.

    Jewish Telegraphic Agency archives hold dozen of reports on the utter failure of Eastern European Jews to settle Biro Bidgan — if their habits were so ill-formed that they could not manage that venture, how could they be expected to succeed and contribute to the zionist project in Palestine?

    Rabbi Stephen Wise, also a zionist fanatic, was in the vanguard of that group of Jewish leaders who pulled out all the stops to enflame the Jewish community and the American (as well as Polish) populace to demonize and destabilize Germany.

    Based on letters between Brandeis and Wise, we can know that Brandeis and Wise were persistently informed and knew very well that Eastern European Jews faced dire threats (NOT from Germany but from the nationals in their own home countries, i.e. Poland, Romania, Hungary), while German Jews felt safe, were accommodating to German restrictions; wrote to Wise & others repeatedly pleading with them to stop their provocations; and German Jews resisted migrating to Palestine.

    (nb. In my view, it is crucially important to understand these thinking and propaganda processes inasmuch as they are being repeated to destroy Iran, once again at the behest of zionist Jews and the zionist project in Palestine.)

    PS Add the interests of non-Jewish bankers & industrialists to those eager for war — Lindbergh nailed it.

  297. Anon[697] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    To what date do you ascribe the deportation to Madagascar as being the Nazi’s “Final Solution” and on what sources or evidence? How could it have persisted after the beginning of WW2 or, at latest, the invasion of the Soviet Union?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  298. anon[697] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    With your unfailing muddle headed citatiom of weak sources you have PCR suggesting with your approval that Browder would have been a candidate for assassiation before Skripal with the implication – that needs to be spelled out to show up the absurdity – that the fact that Browder hasn’t been murdered supports the view that Russia didn’t poison Skripal!

    Maybe they have been plotting and trying to kill Browder but it’s very difficult. How would you or PCR know? But equally important may be the fact that murdering Skripal could look like an effective way of deterring would be defectors. By contrast, is anyone with the chance and desire to steal as much as Browder is supposed to have going to be persuaded to be nice and honest? Browder probably only needs the same bodyguards as any run of the mill nouveau billionaire.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @annamaria
  299. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Maybe they have been plotting and trying to kill Browder but it’s very difficult.

    If Nekrasov got to him to do the documentary, and if Nekrasov was a “Kremlin stooge” (as some media claimed) engaged in a “calculated attempt” (as Browder claimed to the New York Times) to do him harm, it couldn’t have been all that difficult.

  300. @Anon

    It all is described in great detail in
    Hans Jansen, ‘Der Madagaskar Plan, Die beabsichtigte Deportation der europäischen Juden nach Madagaskar’, München 1997
    Jansen is a Dutch theologican, collaborator of the Brussels Wiesenthal institution.
    The original Dutch exists, do not know if there is an english translation.
    ‘ beabsichtigte’ is ‘planned’.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  301. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    you said:
    “:2. gas chambers. The “gas chambers” in the in the various concentration camps located in eastern Germany – Dachau, Belsen, Sachsenhausen, etc. – didn’t work…because they never existed in the first place: they were faked, post-war, by Hollywood Jew (((Bud Schulberg))) and a US Army propaganda team. Thanks, revisionists, you got this right.”

    Except that in the Nuremberg Show Trial records, which you cite as being credible, we have the accepted, yet fraudulent “testimony” that Dachau DID have homicidal gas chambers and that many were killed in them.
    ex.: See the perjured ‘testimony’ of Franz Blaha.

    Please actually learn about the fake narrative you’re hopelessly trying to defend.

    Remember, ALL Revisionists used to faithfully believe.

    See the ‘holocaust’ scam easily & thoroughly debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  302. @SolontoCroesus

    ” It is broadly acknowledged that the Versailles Treaty set the conditions for the second war. Rabbi Wise, Louis Brandeis & others formed the American Jewish Congress precisely to represent “Jewish interests” at Versailles. Their delegation, as well as Bernard Baruch and other Jews who surrounded Wilson, dominated the peace conferences and returned with “a dual triumph for zionists” — decisions that set the stage for turmoil US leaders are still dealing with. ”

    Correct, except that there was no treaty, a treaty is the outcome of negotiations between parties.
    The Germans just had to accept what was decided, therefore Hitler saw Versailles as a Diktat, no legal value.
    Germanyhad to sign, the British continued the blockade, 900.000 hunger deaths between capitulation and signing.
    Wilson’s Fourteen Points were ignored.
    At the time Versailles was seen as a jewish conference, even the secretaries of Wilson, Clemenceau and Lloyd George are said to have been jews.
    The USA never ratified Versailles, the USA public did read the revisionist literature, understood that their sons died unnesssesarily, neutrality laws came, that were such an obstacle for FDR for starting a war.
    Keynes wrote his book about the impossibilities of Germany paying for WWII.
    Hitler indeed was born virtually in the Hall of Mirrors
    David Sinclair, ‘Hall of Mirrors’, London, 2001

  303. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    said:
    “My interpretation, Frankfurter had never expected that Hitler would execute his threat of 1939 about ‘ausrotten’ of jews ‘if they again started a world war’.”

    BTW, “ausrotten / ausrottung” has ‘to up root’ as it’s first meaning, it was a commonly used word as such in the 1930′s / 40s.

    See the false Zionist claims about it thoroughly debunked here: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=ausrotten
    and:
    “Ausrottung” /”Ausrotten” Explained: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2249

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  304. A contribution to unmasking Jewish depravity & corruption. A must see for all Judeomaniacs.

    • Replies: @Wally
  305. refl says:
    @L.K

    Once you accept the thought that the very choice of Hitler as leader for Germany by some powerful angloamerican/ anglozionist elite was part of a gambit to lead Germany to its destruction, it no longer matters, if those who funded him were seriously willing to help Germany rise again, or if they were planning for Germany to become the ramsporn against stalinist Russia.

    I recommend Nicolai Starikows “Who set Hitler against Stalin.” The book certainly has flaws, but I find the mention of Ernst Hanfstaengl, who gave Hitler his first 1000 dollars in 1922 (when german money was breaking down in the inflation), quite stunning. In this regard, Hitler was an intelligence asset from the start of his rise to power.

    The way to power and subsequent disaster(for Germany and Russia) was being prepared, Zionists being in on the game for their benefit, but probably second in line to the geopolitical ambitions of the angloamerican elite.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  306. Kolo says:
    @Colin Wright

    Another imbecilic post from the resident ziotroll cw

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  307. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I suggest that this is a far better example:

    Jews have been pushing their ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1823:

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    http://www.codoh.com

  308. @Wally

    Frankfurter is scarcely credible.

    He abused his position as Supreme Court justice in order to- or by exploiting it to- gain access and influence over FDR.

    At the same time that Frankfurter “held a two-hour private conversation, the content of which no one else knows,” to convince FDR to run for a third term, in order to advance war against Germany, Frankfurter was also instrumental in putting Wendell Willkie in the “time, place and circumstance” in which he would feel himself empowered to run for the presidency on the Republican ticket (Willkie had been a Democrat). However, Willkie’s war policy closely paralleled FDRs, to the extent that FDR dispatched Willkie to meet with Churchill and discuss war policy. iow, Frankfurter created both sides of the political campaign in which a win by either side meant USA would go to war.

    IF XXX number of Jews died, it is because Jews like Frankfurter intended the situation to emerge that would bring about their deaths.

    Frankfurter also had a personal, back-channel communications link to Churchill himself.

    So whatever Frankfurter claims to believe or not believe about a report about concentration camps that may or may not have been bogus — why should anyone give him the benefit of the doubt? He obviously used his position in US governance to advance specifically Jewish interests.

    Brandeis did the same only moreso.

    It is an outrage that these two men, and dozens like them, are stars in the US firmament.

    On the other hand, it is an even greater outrage that Charles Lindbergh, and Supreme Court Justice James Clark McReynolds https://thinkprogress.org/the-five-worst-supreme-court-justices-in-american-history-ranked-f725000b59e8/
    are denounced and derided as “antisemites” by the very entities that were, indeed, traitors to USA.

    In the case of McReynolds, Ann McReynolds Bush has attempted to redeem her cousin’s good name: James Clark McReynolds: Defender of the Constitution

    https://www.amazon.com/James-Clark-McReynolds-Defender-Constitution-ebook/dp/B00TWS3LXY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1533832977&sr=8-1&keywords=mcreynolds+bush

    McReynolds was one of the Supremes who opposed FDR’s New Deal legislation, for which he was targeted in FDR’s failed court-packing scheme.

  309. @Kolo

    ‘Another imbecilic post from the resident ziotroll cw’

    There’s another one for the collection. I have now been called a ‘ziotroll.’

  310. @refl

    I recommend Nicolai Starikows “Who set Hitler against Stalin.” The book certainly has flaws, but I find the mention of Ernst Hanfstaengl, who gave Hitler his first 1000 dollars in 1922 (when german money was breaking down in the inflation), quite stunning. In this regard, Hitler was an intelligence asset from the start of his rise to power.

    Thanks for the book recommendation, and also for mention of Hanfstaengl, lunch mate of FDR’s at Harvard and the man who was crucial in Hitler’s writing and publication of Mein Kampf, as well as bringing it to the attention of Americans and FDR.

    Hitler was an intelligence asset from the start of his rise to power.

    Indeed.

    Jeff Gates describes the creation and role of intelligence assets in Guilt by Association:

    and

  311. Wally says:
    @utu

    said:
    “That gassings were a minor part of the operation and so on. ”

    Utu doesn’t even know the story he tries to discuss.

    According to the fake narrative, of the alleged 6,000,000 total, ca. 4,ooo,ooo Jews were allegedly gassed, and that does not take into account the ’5M others’ that were allegedly killed in the same way as Jews.

    Yet utu describes that fake claim as “minor”.

    Once again, utu makes a fool of himself by pretending to know what he’s talking about.

    http://www.codoh.com

    ‘O, what a tangled web they weave when first they practised to deceive’

  312. syonredux says:
    @Ron Unz

    Still, glancing at the Wikipedia entry, it looks like he spent nearly all of those years as a staff officer, mostly just inspecting black troops overseas. Sounds a little like “tokenism” to me.

    To me as well.

    Moreover, just as I’d suggested, it doesn’t look like he ever “exercised command authority” over white troops in combat. I’d be curious if you can locate any U.S. black officer of any rank who had ever done so in American history prior to Truman’s desegregation of the military.

    To the best of my knowledge, that part of your argument stands. As best as I can tell, Black officers in the pre-Executive Order 9981 military were kept in Black units, where the problem of Blacks commanding Whites would not be an issue.

    Incidentally, the lack of separate Black units in the US Navy helps explain the dearth of Black Naval officers in the pre-Executive Order 9981 era. Unlike their Army counterparts, they couldn’t be shunted off to an all Black command.

  313. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:

    People: raise the JQ!

    Internet: okay.

    Immediately descends into fighting, conspiracy theories, and bizarre 30,000 word rants.

    • Replies: @Anon
  314. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Raise the JQ but also NN(No Nazis). They foul up everything by associating rational criticism of Jewish Power with ‘Heil Hitler’ and ‘Holocaust didn’t happen’.

    So, JQ and NN.

    • Disagree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  315. Zumbuddi says:
    @Anon

    Nope.

    JQ crimes have been hidden behind falsely blaming Nazis.

    Just the fact that the J s haul out Naz-ees everytime a diversion is needed, and that they’ve been beating this dead horse for 85 years + , is prima facie evidence something is rotten.

    Time to tell the honest to god story, not the Hollywood version.

  316. @Wally

    I’ll say this: you codoh autists are as full of piss and venom as your Zionist soulmates of the Mythic Six million.

    1. I made no remarks about the “credibility” of the Nuremburg evidence. Here and there I find a document or documents which, when correlated with other-sourced first-hand accounts, approximate reality. That’s the best any historian can do. In general, history isn’t science.

    2. that said, we can apply the experimental method to the “gas chamber issue”. In fact, I or you or Germer Rudolf can create a demonstrably lethal gas chamber at home in a matter of minutes; though I’d prefer you or Germer to do it. As follows:

    a. go out to the garage.
    b. close (non-airtight) door behind you.
    c. close (non-airtight) garage door, and any others (non-airtight) doors/windows
    d. get in car, open car windows
    e. start engine
    f. now lie back and contemplate the “scientific impossibility of Nazi gas chambers”
    g……

    you guys are hopeless. But I’ll continue to visit codoh now and again, for the same reason I visit Zionist sites:

    even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Wally
    , @tac
  317. Gab’s hosting provider, Microsoft Azure, has given us 48 hours to take action on two posts, or they will pull our service and Gab will go down for weeks/months.

    They’re gonna take Gab down because of Patrick Little! Go read some of his posts. This guy needs to be in the White House.
    Heres one:
    The jews are planning on pulling out their well-worn blades of genocide shortly.

    The level of ‘shut it down’ we have witnessed on the internet since November 2016 gives me the impression that the 30 million Christians the jews murdered in the largest genocide in history at the time will pale in comparison to what the jews have planned for dissidents in this country.

    The jews are preparing to commit their largest genocide yet, and they need to ‘shut it down’ on the internet before they can start this round of jewish crimes against humanity.

    If we submit to censorship, we are party to this planned jewish crime against humanity

  318. utu says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    The can even do the experiment with their ‘lower emission’ VW diesel.

    • Replies: @Wally
  319. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    1. You lie.
    When challenged for ‘holocaust’ documents you cited Nuremberg records.
    It is you, who had no clue that ‘gassings’ at Dachau are part of the lie filled Nuremberg Show Trial records.
    The debate sequence can be checked, you know. LOL

    2. Your argument / experiment is about CO2, not diesel as alleged, and you did say “diesel”. LOL
    Nor does your argument cover the other alleged mass murder weapon, the insecticide Zyklon-B. LOL

    As I said, “impossible gas chambers”.

    Now that you have shot yourself in the foot again, I suggest that you retreat from the field of battle.
    Checkers is your game.

    All Revisionista are former Believers.

    Cheers.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  320. Wally says:
    @utu

    said:
    “The(y) can even do the experiment with their ‘lower emission’ VW diesel.”

    Do it and you will see that mass gassings as alleged with diesel are impossible.

    Not to mention the absurd notion that the Germans would use scarce & valuable war time fuel for such endeavors, not to mention the absurd notion that the Germans would use valuable war time rail stock, personnel, & fuel to ship Jews to “death camps”, when penny apiece bullets would have done the job at much closer locations.

    Leave it to another hare brained True Believer, utu, to avoid real science, like:

    Diesel Gas Chambers: Ideal for Torture – Absurd for Murder, by Friedrich Paul Berg: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndieselgc.html

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Heros
  321. Jay2332 says:

    Credible Jewish sources have recently admitted that 5 million claimed murders of the 11 million claimed for the Nazis (a number put forth by Jewish narrative) were completely invented for the purpose of increased sympathy for the Jews (aka: political power re-enforcement).

    https://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

    This lie was perpetuated for decades and the admitted-to-be invented number is still touted by almost all high visibility sources like most Jewish holocaust institutions.

    Since the end of WWII, holocaust narrative examination has been de facto forbidden.

    The only way to get away with forbidding open scientific and historical examination in the 20th and 21st centuries was to imply a substrate of unimpeachable honesty and credibility combined with as much guilt as could be implied.

    That credibility is now 100% shattered and will not be again resurrected in our lifetime.

    If there had prior been an allowance for open examination of the holocaust claim, then the entirety of the narrative may have been able to survive in spite of such a lie because there would have been little pent up world indignation over other unanswered questions and inconsistencies whose discussion was oppressed. The narrative would have prior survived or died on its own merits. Jews will claim that it would have survived, and so the best thing to do would have been to allow for open examination and let it survive.

    That, however, is not the reality that we live in.

    The reality is that the holocaust narrative’s foundation was not built on verification of its probability in an environment of open scientific and historical inquiry: a house of concrete. Instead, it was built on a foundation of emphatic assertion of highly debatable conclusions and the suppression of challenging questions: a house of sand.

    And now water has inundated that sand castle, with the admission of the aforementioned big lie.

    The credibility is now gone for the entirety of the claim.

    Sure, this will be continuously debated as if their lives depend on the world’s affirmation of the Holocaust narrative. This may play out for a couple of more decades.

    However, mark my words that the narrative is 100% dead even though the world largely does not yet know it. Though, many people do as of their recent admission.

    The narrative will not survive this big lie. There is no going back. Within forty years, at maximum, the history books will be teaching about the 70 year+ perpetuation of one of the most impactful known large-scale charades in recorded history.

  322. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    In Kenneth Rexroth’s essay, The Reality of Henry Miller, he remarks that “history is the lie you prefer to believe.” This recent series of essays of yours may be about Jews, but it is also about history and how official memory is manipulated to suit the current objectives of various groups.
    In The Heavenly City of the 18th Century Philosophers, Carl Becker wrote, “Since history is not an objective reality, but only an imaginative reconstruction of vanished events, the pattern that appears useful and agreeable to one generation is never entirely so to the next.” He also says in that same book, “All historical writing, even the most honest, is unconsciously subjective, since every age is bound, in spite of itself, to make the dead perform whatever tricks it finds necessary for its own peace of mind.”
    You’ve certainly demonstrated how true this is. Looking forward to future installments in your series!

  323. You are aware of the fact that Eichmann was one of the 6-figure jews that made up the ‘german’ national zionist government, right?

    • Replies: @Anon
  324. @Anonymous

    in reply to your 1&3:

    during 1943-44, as the Eastern Front began to collapse, the Nazis dragooned team after team of Jews – the so-called “K1005″ sonderkommandos – from the Auschwitz labor camp and trucked them around to many of the major Jew-killing sites in eastern Poland, the Baltic States, Ukraine, and White Russia. At these places the rotting corpses were dug up and burned en masse, generally on gasoline-soaked railroad ties. After each major exhumation, the SK Jews themselves were shot, but some survived to tell about it. At Vilna/Ponary c. 90,000 Jews (and others: Reds, captured partisans, etc) had been shot and, during the exhumation, part of one Jew SK tunneled out of the central death pit and escaped into the forests. For some pics and forensic archeology, see: http://pri.org/stories/2017-04-19/science-confirms-incredible-story-lithuanias-holocaust-escape-tunnel

    re #2, some don’t…some do. In fact I find firsthand accounts much more useful than official documents, which too often are propaganda and coverups. The idea is to amass as many as possible re each discrete event…where the web of f/h accounts intersect is about as close to “what happened” as we’re going to get. Naturally, as instanced above, physical artifacts are also relevant.

    • Replies: @Jay2331
    , @Wally
  325. @Wally

    pathetic. You got nothing…other than non-sequiters and angry autism (“LOL”, “checkers is your game”, “LOL”, “you shot yourself in the foot”, “LOL”, etc.).

    just to make sure matters at the codoh playpen are as per usual, I clicked on your link re SS-Col Jaeger’s report. “Sailor”, typically, writes

    “very difficult to believe that 8 SS men could take out almost the whole (Jewish) population of a country, 140,000, in such a short time” @ http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4248

    yeah, that would be “difficult to believe”.

    but it’s not what Col. Jaeger wrote. Which is: “8-10 men of Strike Commando 3 and in cooperation with Lithuanian partisans….”; later in the document, Jaeger is more specific on the number of Lithuanian (anti-communist) “partisans” who did most the trigger-pulling: “at Rokiskis 3,200 (Jews)…80 available Lithuanian partisans did the work together with my men”.

    “such a short time”. Not really. 6 months is plenty of time when most of the native, non-Jewish population is backing you up. And for good reason. During the 1940-41 Soviet communist occupation regime – the puppet gubmint consisted almost entirely of Jews – more than 100,000 Lithuanians – men, women, children – were killed on the spot or deported to Siberia by the (((Reds))).

    Col. Jaeger committed suicide in 1959 because he was about to be arrested and brought to trial for his Jew-killing activities during WW2. For a fact, as an ordinary man (his career as a professional civil policeman dates back to Weimar Germany), he wasn’t too happy about the Jew-killing himself; in late December of 1941, Jaeger had returned to Germany seeking medical treatment for “nightmares and hallucinations due to what he had done and seen…”

    anyway, Wally, you and the codoh kids keep on pushing that holocaust rock uphill. Though, for a fact, Sisyphus did it better.

    • Replies: @Wally
  326. @Heros

    I know little about any Masonic role in the run-up to or wind-down of WW2. What I do notice is that a lot of people on the Right, when they write about history, are always babbling about “Freemasons” and “Fabian Socialists” (etc.)…when they ought to be focusing on the activities of organized Jewry.

    Adm. Canaris was indeed one of the higher-level conspirators in the plot to kill Hitler; but I know of no Masonic connection. Himmler, who knew all about the bomb-plot and let it proceed, was arguably at the apex…was he a Mason? I dunno. One of my uncles was a 37th Degree Mason during the 1940′s. Was he involved? Again, I dunno. But I doubt it.

    • Replies: @j2
    , @Heros
  327. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    when penny apiece bullets would have done the job at much closer locations.

    It is said that German executioners were unable to psychologically bear such a thing.

    • Replies: @Wally
  328. Anon[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Handle Name

    Eichmann was Jewish?

  329. Heros says:
    @Wally

    Mike Walsh has an article (and book) about these “Nazi Gas Vans”.

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/henry-fords-gassing-vans/

    Just like the Soviet-Judaic Katyn Massacres that formed a large part in the sham Nuremburg trials, and were blamed on the Germans, so too are these sham stories about “Nazi gas vans”, which were diesel and therefore do not emit Carbon Monoxide in enough quantities to gas a gopher. Like virtually every story of jewish suffering during WWII, this one also turns out to be about extreme Jewish hatred for and crimes against Christians being warped, distorted, and projected back on the Christians with jews as victims.

    [MORE]

    “Great Russian writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn is undoubtedly the most credible historian to chronicle the terrible decades of Bolshevik suppression. It was the Bolsheviks, not the Reich, that murdered on an industrial scale.

    The former Gulag prisoner writes:

    The gas wagon (Russian: душегубка (dushegubka) was invented and used by the Soviet secret police NKVD in the late 1930s during the Great Purge. The vehicle had an air-tight compartment for victims, into which exhaust fumes were transmitted while the engine was running. The victims were gassed with carbon monoxide, resulting in death by monoxide poisoning and suffocation.

    The gas van’s 1936 designer was Isay Davidovich Berg, the Jewish head of the administrative and economic department of the NKVD of Moscow Oblast. These vans manufactured in the local Ford-built plant were the means of suffocating prisoners in batches with engine fumes while en route to the mass graves at Butovo where prisoners were subsequently buried.

    It was Berg’s suggestion that these vehicles were of the widely used GAZ-AA truck chassis (licensed American model Ford AA truck 1929). In October 1931 a Model AA was the first vehicle produced at Ford’s own new Dagenham plant in England. Ford licensed the manufacture of the Model A and AA to a variety of nations, notably the Soviet Union. More than 985,000 GAZ AAs were built in USSR from 1932 to 1950.”

    Ford model A pickups have a 4 cylinder gasoline engine, so of course jews figured out a way to gas Christians with it.

    • Replies: @tac
  330. j2 says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    “I know little about any Masonic role”

    I already had decided not write any more comments to Unz, but your comment is arrogant and also entirely ignorant. Freemasons as a revolutionary organization basically stopped to the amnesty after the Paris commune early 1870. The revolutionary activities were mainly, but not only, confined to Mephis and Mizraim.

    In the 1890ies the charter of Mizraim and Memphis lodges was reviewed together with their document, and the reaction to their activities created a counteraction, which you see e.g. in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which were drafted by the new Freemasonry, mostly working under Theosophy and Rosicrusian societies. They wanted to stop communism (Jacobism) and to move Jews to Palestine.

    There still was Freemason activity in the beginning of WWI, 1914, associated with the assassination of the crown prince, and fast created revolutionary Freemasonry in Russia gave Bolsheviks power in 1917, but these were not centrally lead by Freemasonry as the center, Mizraim, was no more.

    The new Memphis-Mizraim, where your uncle must have belonged to if he had a degree over 32 (or 33), was not revolutionary, it was only occult. The theosophy/rosicrusian activity what there was died out in the 1970ies, so you can forget Freemasons in the present time. Just focus on Them.

    Freemasons did not have any direct role in starting WWII, they were not active any more, but the societies where the activity continued, like theosophic spinn-offs, such as Thule, did have some minor role in starting the war, such as creating the Nazi party.

    Hope this helps you and you write more knowledgeable and less arrogant posts from no on.

    • Replies: @utu
  331. Heros says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    “One of my uncles was a 37th Degree Mason during the 1940′s. Was he involved? Again, I dunno. But I doubt it.”

    I doubt it too, since 33 is the highest degree.

    Yesterday was Aug. 9, the 73 anniversary of Nagasaki. Nagasaki had expelled the Freemasons in 1920, and it was the capital of Christianity in Japan with 50,000 Christians in the city. The bomb was dropped right over the Cathedral.

    https://jamesperloff.com/2016/09/09/book-review-david-j-dionisi-atomic-bomb-secrets/

    After the bombing, it is reported that Truman got his 33 degree. After Israel was created out of the palestinian genocide, Truman got a payoff of $1 million, so the story goes.

    Afterwards

    I don’t understand how anyone can claim that they know what happened from 1933-1953 without a thorough understanding of what the various secret societies were up to.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  332. tac says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    2. that said, we can apply the experimental method to the “gas chamber issue”. In fact, I or you or Germer Rudolf can create a demonstrably lethal gas chamber at home in a matter of minutes; though I’d prefer you or Germer to do it. As follows:

    a. go out to the garage.
    b. close (non-airtight) door behind you.
    c. close (non-airtight) garage door, and any others (non-airtight) doors/windows
    d. get in car, open car windows
    e. start engine
    f. now lie back and contemplate the “scientific impossibility of Nazi gas chambers”
    g……

    you guys are hopeless.

    Your attempted answer to the gas-chamber claims is a false dicothomy. In any re-creation experiment the conditions, the material, then means are to be replicated which closely resemble that of the original incident(s).

    Now, let’s for a moment play out your rather unimaginative/unrealistic thought experiment (also let us assume the Zyklon-B is being disbursed into this ‘morgue’ in your scenario).

    Do you think that people crammed up in this ‘morgue’ are to simply ‘lie back’–resigned to the fact that they have moments to live–all the while watching people right next to them drop like flies calmly accept their fate? Or do you suppose that, more realistically, at least some people would in a panic naturally start to find a way, any way, to try and escape the realization of this grim situation playing out in front of their very eyes? Would you not think if just some of those same people would not induce a panic storm upon the others there and try to escape through the ‘REVOLVING DOOR’ and into the crematorium–where there would’ve been VERY LITTLE OF THIS GAS SINCE THAT ROOM HAD NO INSERTION SHAFTS? They would have surely survived that there.

    If, however, in your rather impossible scenario let’s, just for the sake of argument, suppose that ALL of the people in that ‘morgue’ just simply succumbed to their fate and simply died without a single one of them putting up a fight. How then is this gas that remains in this room then removed so that these bodies are to be quickly removed and then incinerated (during the process of this supposed incineration this toxic gas would be release in the proximity of the incinerators themselves endangering/killing the workers in that very room)?: vis-a-vis the air shafts (quite a long proposition to wait for), door being opened (again lengthy proposition)? How else them do you propose?

    You see, the problem with so-called/self-described ‘historians’ –for all of their studying of reference material–simple lack a modicum of imagination need to try and recreated a scenario that reflects the ‘crime’ in questions in with any sense of reality.

    In 1988, 97 kids, trapped 400 feet underground in a Washington, D.C., tunnel while two locomotives spewed diesel exhaust into the car, emerged unharmed after 45 minutes.
    [...]
    None of the three Operation Reinhard extermination camps had a crematorium for burning the bodies of the 1.5 million Jews who were killed in these camps. This is an example of the poor prior planning of the Nazis. What were they thinking? Why didn’t they send all the Jews to either Auschwitz or Majdanek, where there were cremation ovens?

    https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/the-murder-weapon-used-at-treblinka-carbon-monoxide-or-zyklon-b-gas/

  333. Jay2331 says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    If science were important to the Holocaust narrative, then science would be allowed open inquiry. You can’t select the results of closed “forensic” inquiry and ban other inquiry. Either the narrative, in full, is open to scientific review or it is not.

    It is not. Thus, your appeals to specious science are irrelevant. No ability to review equates to no credibility in the science world.

    What you have is a narrative, consisting of pixels, that is seeded with lots of ominous sounding details that are meant to cultivate awe in readers. What you have is an appeal to faith that you are telling the truth.

    What we have is an admitted lie that 5 out of 11 million claimed murders were invented. Thus, what we have is a complete discrediting of any pixel and ink based narratives and appeals to faith.

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Jay2332

    This is the inarguable reality of the present-day state of the Holocaust narrative.

    • Replies: @MikeP
  334. tac says:
    @Heros

    Even under maximum load, a Diesel’s exhaust contains less than 0.4% carbon monoxide. By contrast, all gasoline engines easily produce 7% CO–and, with some adjustment of the idle mixture adjustment screw on the carburetor, as much as 12%. Diesels, by contrast, have no carburetors to begin with; no adjustments are possible.

    From the vague anecdotal descriptions of the Diesel murder process in the Holocaust literature, there is no reason to believe that anything more than a crude, simple arrangement was involved. The Diesel engine was supposedly located outside of the gas chamber building either on a stand or in a tank or truck–take your pick– with the exhaust directed into the gas chambers. Those arrangements would have meant that the engine would have been operating at idle or, at worst, fast idle. Under such non-load conditions, any Diesel ever built would produce less than 600 ppm of CO–that is less than 1/10th of 1% carbon monoxide. That would be barely enough CO to give someone a headache after half-an-hour of continuous exposure — but, nothing worse than that.

    It would not have made much difference whether a gas chamber was tightly crammed with people or not. Contrary to what Weisberg alleges, a gas chamber with Diesel exhaust pouring in from an idling Diesel would actually be an arrangement to keep trapped victims alive. Diesel exhaust from any idling Diesel engine is actually oxygen-rich with about 18% oxygen. This is because of the peculiar nature of Diesel combustion which relies upon excess air to achieve ignition. With exhaust like that containing so much excess air, one can breathe rather comfortably for more than an hour with nothing worse than a headache; the entering Diesel exhaust would actually help to purge the partially consumed air exhaled from intended victims inside the chamber. The smell might be annoying but that has nothing whatever to do with toxicity.

    Diesel exhaust for mass murder would have been made no sense at all. That is already obvious when one understands the differences between Diesels and gasoline engines.
    [...]
    Without so much as even one shred of hard evidence, or forensic evidence, or German wartime documents, or a murder weapon that makes any kind of common sense–the Diesel extermination stories should be totally rejected. Fifty years of war crimes trials and intense Jewish “scholarship” have produced “mush.” Diesel gassings never happened! Buchanan was wrong on a few details but he was right on target generally. Buchanan deserves the highest praise and respect for his courageous stands against hate peddlars like George F. Will and Jacob Weisberg.

    As the Diesel myth falls, so falls the entire extermination story. The true hatemongers know this and, therefore, they must defend their absurd story with ever more extreme forms of censorship and suppression including, at this very moment, imprisonment of the revisionists–and especially in Germany.

    http://vho.org/tr/2000/2/tr02patdiesel.html

  335. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anon

    Is it possible there was even encouragement?

    What need was there of encouragement?

    There seems no disagreement on the fact that Jews who were not murdered where they lived were sent to concentration camps, a policy on which the Nazis required no encouragement.

    About the fate of Jews so treated, the significant question in the present context is thus how many were murdered out right, how many died due to malnutrition, disease, overwork, etc., and how many, like the Nobel Prize winning chemist Primo Levi, survived the war and regained their liberty.

    In the present context, the question of interest is whether influential Zionist Jews might have done more to facilitate for the emigration or escape of Jews from German-occupied territory.

    According to Lenni Brenner (51 Documents), the Zionist leadership was largely indifferent to the fate of the majority of Jews in occupied Europe, their goal being to arrange the escape only of young people who would be successful as settlers in Palestine.

    As to the older folks left to their fate under the Nazis, Brenner’s contends that Zionist leadership regarded their suffering as the price to be paid for the sympathy that Jews would need from the international community after the war to justify the creation of Israel.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  336. Skeptikal says:
    @Seraphim

    “We know that Benzion Netanyahu was secretary of Jabotinsky for a short while and was extremely active in the Revisionist Zionism.”

    As is/was Moshe Arens—born in I think Poland, educated in the USA, Betar member and proud Zionist zealot and early settler/squatter who stole Palestinian water etc. and longtime manipulator of naive American politicians such as George Schultz—who while the Israeli ambassador to Washington mentored Bibi Netanyahu.
    See Arens, In Defense of Israel: A Memoir of a Political Life

    https://www.amazon.com/Defense-Israel-Memoir-Political-Life/dp/0815731418

  337. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:

    A must-read for the subjects Mr. Unz is discussing is “The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements” by Kevin MacDonald.

    You can get it on Amazon.

    I would like to see Mr. Unz review it.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  338. utu says:
    @j2

    I already had decided not write any more comments

    Why? Pompous ass prima donna syndrome? Anyway, I like your comments even though sometimes your are wrong.

    • Replies: @j2
  339. Heros says:
    @tac

    Compare the character of an honorable person like Zundel who sacrificed his entire life to fighting lying jews to get to the truth, to some lying jew slime like Ben Ferencz:

    They slid him in the oven, turned on the heat and took him back out. Beat him again, and put him back in until he was burnt alive. I did nothing to stop it. I suppose I could have brandished my weapon or shot in the air, but I was not inclined to do so. Does that make me an accomplice to murder?

    You know how I got witness statements? I’d go into a village where, say, an American pilot had parachuted and been beaten to death and line everyone one up against the wall. Then I’d say, “Anyone who lies will be shot on the spot.” It never occurred to me that statements taken under duress would be invalid”

    This kike enjoyed watching Germans being burned alive. There is no comparison between the swine who staged Nuremburg and those whose lives have been ruined by their lies.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/99-year-old-nuremberg-prosecutor-calls-trumps-detention-of-children-a-crime-against-humanity/5650169?platform=hootsuite

    • Replies: @utu
  340. Wally says:
    @Anon

    said:
    “It is said that German executioners were unable to psychologically bear such a thing.”

    But they supposedly could “psychologically bear” ‘exhuming gooey corpses and making them magically disappear.’ Right.

    They supposedly could “psychologically bear” ‘making soap out of Jews, making human skin lampshades, and shrunken heads’. Right.

    They supposedly could “psychologically bear” ‘driving around in vans while gassing Jews with the exhaust & then removng the corpses with hooks’. Right.

    And they supposedly could “psychologically bear” this:
    The alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process reviewd here.

    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    They also supposedly could “psychologically bear” these:
    the so called ‘Holocaust’ / theatre of the absurd: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  341. Bef says:

    A fascinating article of some hidden sins of history. As history is written and allowed to be published, or by the skin of its teeth in Brenner’s book’s case, we must assume that it is mostly propaganda, misdirection or obfuscation that we read. This brings to mind the hiding of Valentine’s ‘Phoenix Program’, thought not his subsequent “CIA as organized Crime’ or the out right banning of Fetzer’s “No One Died at Sandy Hook.’ This makes me wonder what the real story of history would read like ‘if only it were true.’ It gets me to wondering what were the Jewish giant financial banking families considerations when all this was going down?

  342. annamaria says:
    @anon

    “With your unfailing muddle headed citatiom of weak sources you have PCR suggesting with your approval that Browder would have been a candidate for assassiation before Skripal with the implication ….”
    — What? Are not you projecting the “muddle?”
    Here is the link from my post: https://ahtribune.com/interview/2416-paul-craig-roberts.html
    Take an effort to read the interview with Paul Craig Roberts first before having the tantrum.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  343. http://www.targetfreedomusa.com/the-nazi-zionist-connection-shocking-hidden-history/

    One of the most fascinating interviews you will ever hear on this subject, take careful note of the identity of the two discussing the topic, a most unlikely pair agreeing on such a controversial issue.

  344. utu says:
    @Heros

    You have omitted “I once saw DPs beat an SS man and then strap him to the steel gurney of a crematorium” which means that Ferencz was a witness of what DPs (displaced persons) did. That’s why he says in the end “Does that make me an accomplice to murder?”

    The article from which you selectively “misquoted” is here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/21/AR2005072101680_5.html

    You are unhinged. I can see it form your comments. Perhaps for a good reason you lost your mind. You have no credibility from now on.

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  346. Seraphim says:
    @jilles dykstra

    It must be said that the Madagascar Plan was more limited in scope. It was a proposal by Germany in the wake of the ‘failure’ of the Evian Refugee Conference of 6-16 July 1938, to agree for a ‘final solution’ for the resettlement of stateless Polish Jewish refugees in France (hmm, we’ve heard of a similar situations more recently) in different countries. Australia refused to get any refugees on the same grounds that refuses today (deportation to islands of the Pacific in view of processing of their applications for entry visa is another practice for which Australia is criticized, but it doesn’t care).

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-madagascar-plan-2:

    [MORE]

    “On December 9, 1938, French Foreign Minister Georges Bonnet informed German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop that in order to rid France of 10,000 Jewish refugees it would be necessary to ship them elsewhere. At that time, the Nazi regime considered mass emigration to be the “Final Solution” to the “Jewish problem.”
    On March 5, 1938, the SS officer in charge of forced Jewish emigration, Adolf Eichmann, was commissioned to assemble material to provide the chief of the Security Police (SIPO) Reinhard Heydrich with “a foreign policy solution as it had been negotiated between Poland and France,” i.e., the Madagascar Plan. Temporarily shelved in the wake of the war, the project was taken up again after the fall of France in the summer of 1940….
    The plan leaked out and was published in Italy in July 1940. In August 1940, the Third Reich officially endorsed the Madagascar Plan. Alarmed by the plan, the American Jewish Committee commissioned a special report, published in May 1941, that sought to demonstrate that Jews could not survive the conditions on the island. By that time, however, the Nazis were already well underway with a different “Final Solution” – the extermination program”
    On February 10, 1942, only a few weeks after the Wannsee Conference, the Madagascar Plan was officially shelved and replaced in public policy statements with the lexicon of “evacuation to the East.”

    The text is as follows:

    “The approaching victory gives Germany the possibility, and in my view also the duty, of solving the Jewish question in Europe. The desirable solution is: all Jews out of Europe.
    The task of the Foreign Ministry in this is:
    a) To include this demand in the Peace Treaty and to insist on it also by means of separate negotiations with the European countries not involved in the Peace Treaty;
    b) to secure the territory necessary for the settlement of the Jews in the Peace Treaty, and to determine principles for the cooperation of the enemy countries in this problem;
    c) to determine the position under international law of the new Jewish overseas settlement;
    d) as preparatory measures:
    1) clarification of the wishes and plans of the departments concerned of the Party, State and Research organizations in Germany, and the coordination of these plans with the wishes of the Reich Foreign Minister, including the following:
    2) preparation of a survey of the factual data available in various places (number of Jews in the various countries), use of their financial assets through an international bank;
    3) negotiations with our friend, Italy, on these matters.
    With regard to beginning the preparatory work, Section D III has already approached the Reich Foreign Minister via the Department Germany [interior affairs], and has been instructed by him to start on the preparatory work without delay. There have already been discussions with the Office of the Reichsfuehrer SS in the Ministry of Interior and several departments of the Party. These departments approve the following plan of Section D III:
    Section D III proposes as a solution of the Jewish question: In the Peace Treaty France must make the island of Madagascar available for the solution of the Jewish question, and to resettle and compensate the approximately 25,000 French citizens living there. The island will be transferred to Germany under a mandate. Diégo Suarez Bay and the port of Antsirane, which are [sea-] strategically important, will become German naval bases (if the Navy wishes, these naval bases could be extended also to the harbors – open road-steads – Tamatave, Andevorante, Mananjara, etc.). In addition to these naval bases, suitable areas of the country will be excluded from the Jewish territory (Judenterritorium) for the construction of air bases. That part of the island not required for military purposes will be placed under the administration of a German Police Governor, who will be under the administration of the Reichsfuehrer SS. Apart from this, the Jews will have their own administration in this territory: their own mayors, police, postal and railroad administration, etc. The Jews will be jointly liable for the value of the island. For this purpose their former European financial assets will be transferred for use to a European bank to be established for this purpose. Insofar as the assets are not sufficient to pay for the land which they will receive, and for the purchase of necessary commodities in Europe for the development of the island, the Jews will be able to receive bank credits from the same bank.
    As Madagascar will only be a Mandate, the Jews living there will not acquire German citizenship. On the other hand, the Jews deported to Madagascar will lose their citizenship of European countries from the date of deportation. Instead, they will become residents of the Mandate of Madagascar.
    This arrangement would prevent the possible establishment in Palestine by the Jews of a Vatican State of their own, and the opportunity for them to exploit for their own purposes the symbolic importance which Jerusalem has for the Christian and Mohammedan parts of the world. Moreover, the Jews will remain in German hands as a pledge for the future good behavior of the members of their race in America.
    Use can be made for propaganda purposes of the generosity shown by Germany in permitting cultural, economic, administrative and legal self-administration to the Jews; it can be emphasized at the same time that our German sense of responsibility towards the world forbids us to make the gift of a sovereign state to a race which has had no independent state for thousands of years: this would still require the test of history.
    signed Rademacher
    Berlin, July 3, 1940

  347. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    There seems no disagreement on the fact that Jews who were not murdered where they lived were sent to concentration camps, a policy on which the Nazis required no encouragement.

    You beg the question.

    A central tenet of Judaism is segregation. Same with Zionism. Is it not inconceivable that Jews encouraged Germans in policies that could lead to or hasten segregation of the two population groups?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  348. j2 says:
    @utu

    “Pompous ass prima donna syndrome? ”

    Good point, but it is time to do something else. I have many times decided to stop reading Unz because this site is too interesting and it takes far too much time if getting involved in discussions here. I have already written all I have found about these conspiracy issues.

    But I will still defend my position about Masons once at least as it is being ridiculed because somebody has an uncle who is a Freemason. (I have known 32 degree Scottish Freemasons, I know they did not plan revolutions or start world wars.)

    I never claimed that somebody’s uncle (who has 37th degree in Mizraim-Memphis with 99 degrees, i.e., far from the top) started the Second World War, especially not knowing who this uncle was. It is also well-known that Freemasons were not active as an organization in the time of the WWII. They were too well known to act directly and Hitler forbid the society. (So did Franco.)

    The Brotherhood was the classical subversive secret society. Trotsky studied their methods and so did the founder of the IRA, for instance. The Brotherhood had the structure that ideally suited to covert operations: unknown leaders, code of silence, helping members, secret signs, members forbidden to go to meetings of irregular lodges so all subversive activity could be done in those lodges and the regular lodges act as a smoke screen. A terrorist or criminal organization would use similar methods. Only that the Brotherhood become too infamous and was watched by the police.
    (You have this group and it does not work. It is like a criminal on parole. Cannot work as has to report to the police, but has not changed and can start working if conditions become better. Masons did work again in Italy in the 1980ies, the P2 lodge.)

    So, Freemasons did not start the WWII, though they did start WWI. But it is still the same group, not the Jewish people as a people. Before WWII East European Jews did not want to move to Palestine. The people who wanted Jews to Palestine were Zionists and pre-Zionists.

    Even though Nazis had some level of co-operation with Zionist, Zionists did not raise Hitler to power and Zionists did not create the plan of collecting Jews from Europe. That must have been the pre-Zionists, that is, the same group that earlier worked through Freemasons. Pre-Zionists got England to agree to the Jewish homeland. B’nai B’rith got Truman to accept Israel after the war. Zionists did not manage to do these things. They had only very limited power.

    Agreeing that there was this group of pre-Zionists with the Palestine plan long before Hitler, could it be so that Hitler just wanted the same and was not raised to power by the pre-Zionists for the purpose of moving the Jews to Palestine? Hitler was just a patriot with a realistic view of the Jews? Many people claim so, but notice what Nazis did to the Jews and explain the following:

    Why Nazis collected Jews also from countries they were not intending to include to Germany or German colonies? That is, often people expelled Jews from their country because Jews were harmful in some way, like doing usury. But why Germans wanted to expel Jews from, say, France? Germans occupied most of France, but Nazis did not intend to keep France after the war. Would it not be better to have the French suffer from the Jewish presence and Germany to be free of Jews?

    The answer I think is most logical is that the goal of Hitler was to collect a large number of Jews for the transfer to the new homeland. The main goal of the WWII was to get the people to Palestine. The WWI had succeeded in getting a promise of a homeland there. If so, then WWII was a continuation of WWI and WWI was a continuation of the efforts of the pre-Zionists to get a homeland to the Jews.

    So, Freemasons did not start WWII as they were not active at that time. That is true, but the group was still there and used other cover organizations. In the 19th century the group of pre-Zionists consisted of Freemasons, some Jewish bankers, some Christian Zionists, some Jewish kabbalists and some Jewish communists. As Freemasons were too carefully watched, the Masonry worked through Rosicrusian (Golden Dawn, O.T.O) and fringe Theosophic societies (like Thule). Later, in the 1970ies, also these groups were discarded. It was not any more time for esoteric secret societies, the Brotherhood is only old men’s club nowadays. (as long as one watches it all the time.)

    But I think the group is still there as a group of globalists and it now uses the tools like the Bildberger, CFA, ADL, lobbies etc. just like conspiracy theoreticians claim. Where would if have disappeared. The Brotherhood was infiltrated and changed from a society of Enlightenment people to a deep state, and it may now have some ethnic flavor.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Heros
  349. Seraphim says:
    @annamaria

    Now, what if Browder is the one behind the Novitchok hoax? He was the first to announce the world that the ‘Kremlin’ ordered the assassination of Skripal, the very next day after the incident.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bill-browder-kremlin-likely-ordered-assassination-of-sergei-skripal-2018-3?r=US&IR=T

    “The man named “Putin’s number one enemy” says he believes the former Russian spy, who was taken ill over the weekend after being exposed to a mystery substance, was targeted by the Kremlin.
    Bill Browder, who was deported from Russia after exposing corruption in the country, said his “operating theory” is that Sergei Skripal, the ex-spy found collapsed in Salisbury on Sunday, is a victim of a Kremlin assassination plot.
    Browder told Sky News on Tuesday:
    “We don’t know for sure what’s happened in Salisbury. We know that an enemy of the Kremlin, an enemy of Russia, turned cold in their opinion, came on the UK, was here in the UK, and collapsed on Sunday.
    “My first suspicion and operating theory is that this man was a victim of a Kremlin plot to assassinate him. That would be the working assumption until we have information otherwise.”
    The Kremlin has denied any knowledge of the case, and said it would be ready to cooperate with the investigation if asked. Browder doesn’t buy any of that. He said:
    “If that [an assassination plot] is what happened – and again, this is a big if – then I wouldn’t expect the Kremlin to do anything but lie.
    “They lied about Litvinenko, they lied about shooting down the Malaysian airliner over Ukraine, they lied about troops in Crimea, they lie about the Olympics.
    “We can’t trust what they say.”

    He is the one pushing like mad for sanctions against ‘Putin’s Russia’ to punish her for assassinations of Putin’s ‘opponents’.

    “Just purely on the basis of sports fairness, after the state sponsored doping programme, there should be no participation in the World Cup. But because of all their other rogue acts, invading Ukraine, shooting down MH17, cheating in the Olympics, cheating the US elections, poisoning Litvinenko and poisoning Skripal – that is enough to say, ‘We shouldn’t be participating in this.’”
    It is why, in his view, the only effective response to the growing threat of Russia is with financial sanctions. He describes doing so as his “mission”.
    “I am not going to stop that mission,” he said. “It’s too important.”
    @https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-sergei-skripal-russian-president-bill-browder-critic-enemy-darkest-force-evil-a8248451.html

    • Replies: @annamaria
  350. annamaria says:
    @Seraphim

    In my opinion, the idea of a psyop concocted by the UK “intelligence community” looks the most reliable. Browder is just a born opportunist ready to catch any chance to smear Russians in order to protect his assets.
    The coincidence of Skripals’ “poisoning” with the events in Syria (the preparation for a false flag of a chemical attack by the White Helmets) is a too strong sign to dismiss: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/04/paul-craig-roberts/from-skripal-to-chemical-attack-what-accusation-is-next/
    The whole Skripal affair is so unbelievably stupid — and the stream of “evidence” is so silly — that it is hard to detect any intelligent person behind it.
    The ongoing saga with the Steele’s Dossier illustrates the thorough deterioration of the “intelligence community” in the UK and the US.

    On the next level of probability, there could be Skripals’ former colleagues, whom he had betrayed during his filthy career. Some of them could have tried to harm the triple agent. “He [Skripal] was alleged to have blown the cover of 300 Russian agents:” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Skripal
    But again, the evidence speaks for some really stupid planners, which points towards the UK “intelligence services.”

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  351. Seraphim says:
    @annamaria

    I would rather say that he does what he does in order to protect his ass. That might prompt you to desperate measures.
    On the other hand there is the distinct possibility that he is cahoots with various ‘intelligence communities’.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  352. Heros says:
    @utu

    “You are unhinged. I can see it form your comments. Perhaps for a good reason you lost your mind. You have no credibility from now on.”

    Actually that quote came direct from Wiki:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Ferencz#Nuremberg_trial_prosecutor

    “In a 2005 interview for The Washington Post he revealed some of his activities during his period in Germany by way of showing how different military legal norms were at the time:

    Someone who was not there could never really grasp how unreal the situation was … I once saw DPs beat an SS man and then strap him to the steel gurney of a crematorium. They slid him in the oven, turned on the heat and took him back out. Beat him again, and put him back in until he was burnt alive. I did nothing to stop it. I suppose I could have brandished my weapon or shot in the air, but I was not inclined to do so. Does that make me an accomplice to murder?[9]

    You know how I got witness statements? I’d go into a village where, say, an American pilot had parachuted and been beaten to death and line everyone one up against the wall. Then I’d say, “Anyone who lies will be shot on the spot.” It never occurred to me that statements taken under duress would be invalid.[9]

    Ferencz stayed in Germany after the Nuremberg Trials, together with his wife Gertrude”

    This can only mean that you now start that same Crusade against Wikipedia that you seem to be waging against me. At least that means you won’t have any time for flinging your spittle here at unz.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Them Guys
  353. annamaria says:
    @Seraphim

    That Browder has been an “asset” was suggested by several alt media sources.
    Perhaps, he has become exposed too much (for the “deciders” taste) and hence some strange accident could easily happen to the taxes-averse descendant of the First Communist and KGB agents.
    Is not it delicious to observe the “righteous” US congressmen (all on a zionist payroll) putting their trust in the famous cheat and liar that has the amazing pedigree?
    The Magnitsky Act and the KGB-tied pedigree of its main pusher should be mentioned in the same breath every time the Act is mentioned.
    For example, the sponsors of the Magnitsky Act Ben Cardin, John McCain, and Jim McGovern and their most trusted man Bill Browder, a descendant of the KGB agents.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  354. Heros says:
    @j2

    “So, Freemasons did not start WWII as they were not active at that time.”

    It is clear that from the moment he entered office that Churchill, and (((certain allies))) were doing their best to bring the US into WWII. Roosevelt through Bullit had been egging the Polish on to never accept the corridor from Germany to East Prussia via Danzig. Without the promise of US entry into the war, England never would have declared war on Germany, nor supported France with its invasion in September 1939.

    The jews, via the US, and via Roosevelt, are the ones who started WWII, and they knew that when the time was ripe, that with their brothers in the craft that they could bring the US in as easily as they did in 1917.

    White, Donovan, Hopkins and Dulles were Masons, while Morgentau, Baruch and Brandeis were all jews working to the same ends as these Freemasons.

    So when you state the Freemasons did not start WWII with such certainty, you are saying that all these masons around Roosevelt had no secret agenda or agreements, and this is hogwash.

    Why was Truman selected as a surprise VP in 1940? Surely it had nothing to do with him being a 32 degree freemason. /sarc

    • Replies: @Anon
  355. @Mulegino1

    Completely OT, but did you see this:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-11/seattle-airport-employee-hijacks-plane-does-barrel-roll-then-crashes-fighter-jets

    Quite reassuring that fighter jets were scrambled INSTANTLY. Equally comforting that there no tall buildings in Seattle that could have been crashed into and vaporized.

    • LOL: Iris
  356. Mulegino1 says:

    But remember, BC, that the Bin Laden Transformation has not been operative for quite a while. You know- that mysterious physical singularity that is only operative when the necessary set of conditions is present to bring about the fortuitous cohencidence of events.

  357. Meimou says:
    @anon

    [Comments without proper spacing, punctuation, capitalization, grammar, or meaningful content are much less likely to be read silly.]

  358. Jake34322 says:

    As evidenced by the historical claims of the Germans, the 20th century political history in the United States that places the Jews at the center of most of the social revolution as well as the fake conservatives known as the Neocon movement who are perhaps President Trump’s most vicious, organized, and motivated detractors, their central role in the anti-Trump media, and their current statements (like Jill Rubin’s recent statements in front of her Hollywood Synagogue group), the Jews must be seen to be at the center of the institutional opposition to Donald Trump.

    What that means is that because they are not being named, we have gotten nowhere. They will always repress challenges to themselves, by any means necessary. They will be successfully until they are named in the public sphere.

    They name the White man with abandon, but stigmatize the same for themselves. That uneven dynamic must be neutralized.

  359. renfro says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Shortly after the deportations of jews to camps in Poland had begun a jew escaped, was smuggled through Europe to Portugal, then to the USA, where he spoke to Frankfurter about the camps.

    That was Jan Kozielewski and he wasn’t Jewish and he was never inside a Nazi camp. He only visited the ghetto and a transit camp…..which he had been enlisted to do by a delegate of the Zionist movement, Menachem Kirszenbaum.

    So I am a tad leery of his Jewish death camp tales although I am certain he probably saw some executions on the streets.

    https://culture.pl/en/artist/jan-karski

    https://culture.pl/en/article/superhero-revisited-100th-anniversary-of-jan-karski

    His bio….

    Jan Kozielewski (whose wartime pseudonym was Jan Karski) was a Polish gov political employee and member of the Polish underground.

    In August, 1942, Jan Karski met twice with Leon Feiner, a representative of the Bund, and a delegate of the Zionist movement, Menachem Kirszenbaum. The two had convinced Karski to see with his own eyes what the Germans were doing to Jews, in order for him to transmit the message to government representatives in exile, as well as the Allies, and Jews who lived in the West.

    Karski was led into the Warsaw ghetto twice. Disguised as a Ukrainian solider, he also spent a few hours in the transit camp in Izbica Lubelska. It was from that place that the Jewish people were transferred to death camps in Sobibór or Majdanek. There, he also saw the inhuman treatment of people, many of whom were dying of starvation. He also witnessed numerous executions.

    Karski’s primary goal in going to Eden (UK) and Frankfurt (US) was to give information on the Polish underground state which was a way of legitimizing the Polish government in exile in the eyes of the Western leaders. This is also why out of the 17 minutes to which he reduced his report only the 3-4 last minutes were devoted to the Jewish situation. Karski had later recounted that sometimes, when interrupted, he wouldn’t even get to this part of his report. His first-hand testimony of the Jewish situation in Europe only gradually gained importance. When he went to the US he was already considered a primary Holocaust witness.”

  360. Welp, this one is going straight in the personal archive for shattering normie reality across the web.

    As always, thank you for the work you do, Ron.

  361. BSR says:

    Are you sure half MEXICAN or do you mean Hispanic with Spanish ancestry (through Mexico likely) and a probably white parent as their partner? i’ve worked with people of pure “Mexican” ancestry who are fiercely Hispanic, and more fiercely American – and their family has owned a specific piece of land in SW Colorado for over 400 years.

  362. @Ron Unz

    There were two officers named Benjamin O. Davis, father (Sr.) and son (Jr.). Col. Benjamin O. Davis, Jr. commanded the 332nd Fighter Group, aka Red Tails, the Tuskegee Airmen. There was a movie made commemorating their exploits in 2012, so I’m surprised nobody in this thread seems to know about them. Of course, the movie is largely fictional, like all movies. But the Red Tails were indeed a highly decorated unit, and in one escort mission, they shot down three ME-262 jets.
    Tuskegee Airmen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Airmen
    Col. Benjamin O. Davis, Jr.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_O._Davis_Jr.

  363. The article in its entirety is excellent, but one thing jars – this bit ->

    A few years ago, the world media also carried the remarkable story of a Palestinian Arab sentenced to prison for rape because he had consensual sexual relations with a Jewish woman by passing himself off as a fellow Jew.

    The fact that someone is convicted of rape for consensual sex under false pretences, should not be ‘remarkable’; it is settled law in the U.K. and therefore also across the entire Commonwealth – i.e., across the civilised West.

    The US is about 150 years behind on the concept of consent in rape – even though US law generally applies the identical principle elsewhere (e.g., consent to a contract is vitiated if that consent was obtained by fraud or deception).

    The types of fraud that vitiate consent in rape are quite narrow: in R v Linekar [1995] 3 All ER 69 73, when a man refused to pay a prostitute having agreed to do so, it was not found to vitiate her consent. (I think this is a terrible decision, for reasons that are clear: she consented to a specific act under specific terms; the terms were violated and therefore consent was vitiated. This case just shows that judges are prudes who don’t recognise sex workers as fully human).

    However earlier jurisprudence (e.g., R v Dee [1884] 15 Cox CC 579 and R v Papadimitriopoulos [1957] 98 CLR 249) settled that some types of fraud do vitiate consent ex post facto – in particular when the deceit centres on aspects of the identity of the perpetrator or the nature of the act (e.g., pretending that the act is a medical procedure).

    In Dee (1884), a man entered a woman’s bedroom and started to have sex with her in the darkness; she was awake when the act commenced, and believed the man to be her husband. Shortly thereafter she became aware that it was not her husband, and insisted that the man be charged.

    The senior judge in the case (May CJ) found that there was no consensus quoad hanc personam and therefore the act was rape; he further added (a p587) –

    Did she consent to the act of adultery? Are not the acts themselves wholly different in their moral nature? The act she permitted cannot properly be regarded as the real act that took place.

    To reinforce this, one of the other judges (Grove J) added (at 598) –

    An act done under the belief that it is another act different in its essence is not in law the act of the party. The person by whom the act was to be performed was part of its essence

    The complainant in the case mentioned in the post believed that she was consenting to sex with a specifically Jewish man: she would not have consented had she known that the man was not in fact Jewish. The defendant has represented to her that he was Jewish, and that fact was a sine qua non in her decision to consent. Regardless of how reprehensible it is to choose your sexual partners on the basis of their adherence to a stupid primitive race-cult, the law (as I mention, in the civilised West) is pretty clear… although I doubt whether, if the religious factor was reversed, any court in Occupied Palestine would convict the Jew for obtaining consent from a Muslim woman by a similar deception.

  364. @ tac: your happytime “kids in the tunnel” episode is irrelevant. As per the accounts of the surviving Jew SK members and a few others (SS, Ukrainian guards), the Treblinka death chamber consisted of several small, heavy concrete-walled, very low cieling’d rooms arranged in linear sequence. Capacity, with agonized, naked people jammed in cheek to jowl and the steel entrance door bolted shut, was c. 1,200…about the size of the standard incoming transports. Many of these Jews arrived in the camp already half-dead from the death train boxcar ordeal: some of the Lvov-to-Belzec trains arrived came in with as many as 1/3 of the deportees already dead; others, particularly children, driven mad. Few were in any condition to resist, escape, or even object. The powerful, U-boat derived deisel engines were left on for as long as 2-3 hours, pumping gaseous poisons and solid filth into the already airless chambers filled with packed bodies. Anyone still alive when the corpses were dragged out by the SK were shot by the Ukrainians or simply flung into the burning pits as is. Cf.

    Willenberg, Samuel: Surviving Treblinka (Oxford, 1989)
    Glazer, Richard: Trap With a Green Fence (NY, 1995)
    Raichman, Chil: The Last Jew of Treblinka (London, 2012)
    Smith, Mark: Treblinka Survivor – Life and Death of Herschel Sperling (NY, 2010)
    Prais, Lea: “…First Testimonies of Escapees from Chelmno and Treblinka in the Warsaw Ghetto, 1942-43″, Yad Vashem Studies, vol. 42/#1, pp. 47-82

    etc. Now, I don’t blame you or Wally or any of the other autistic Denialists on this thread for your lack of ordinary human empathy…or your inablity to read/write plain English. The jew.gov public skrewels + mandatory vaccination are probably the root cause.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Wally
    , @cassandra
    , @tac
  365. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Haxo Angmark proves his religious fervor and lack of critical analysis skills yet again.
    The Jaeger Report is pure Soviet propaganda, it’s history & it’s contents prove it.
    points:
    As with all Einsatzgruppen claims the numbers are simply impossible. The Jaeger Report apparently states that his unit killed & buried 7523 Jews on 28 August 1941! That’s ONE day. Almost never did the alleged tally drop below 1000 a day.
    Jaeger’s group allegedly killed 133,346 people, in separate, distant locations within a relatively short period, so how did that work?
    And the locations of the alleged actions are listed in the report, yet we don’t we see the claimed human remains.
    points:
    - The communist Soviets ‘found’ the ‘Jaeger Report’ fifteen years after the alleged event.
    - Why was only sheet 6 ever previously shown? And even at that, the other sheets are merely a forged list of allegedly murdered Jews which are not verifiable in any way.
    - There is no cover / title page.
    - Where is official letterhead?
    - No official document numbering.
    - Note the damning cropped top of alleged page 1.
    - Jaeger’s signature on the final page means that someone played Karl Jaeger for a moment, hardly convincing.
    - Anyone with a typewriter and a German ‘secret’ stamp, which were certainly in abundance after the war, could and did manufacture this absurd ” document”. The images are nothing more than a photograph of a bogus document typed by anyone to mean whatever they wanted, it would be laughed out of court.
    - A photo of a bogus document is still a bogus document
    -Was it ever used in any trial as proof? If so, what trial? If not, why not?

    Then there’s the all too convenient Jaeger alleged “suicide” to avoid putting him on trial.

    [MORE]

    More here:
    The Einsatzgruppen and the ‘Holocaust’
    Joseph Bishop: http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3103

    It’s all part of the impossible ’2,000,000 Jews shot by the Einsatzgruppen’ propaganda.
    So, is that:
    100 graves of 20,000?
    200 graves of 10,000?
    400 graves of 5,000?
    500 graves of 4,000?
    1000 graves of 2000?
    2000 graves of 1000?

    The claimed human remains, in supposedly known locations do not exist.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  366. @Heros

    thanks for the correction. I was about 8 years old when I heard about Uncle Herb, and probably mis-heard – or mis-remembered – “37th” for “32nd”.

    as to Nagasaki: the old Imperial capital at Kyoto was the primary target for A-bomb #2, but was weathered out on 9 August. Nagasaki was the chosen alternate, probably by the 20th Air Force c/o, Curtis LeMay. No worries; I suppose Freemasons control the weather as well.

    I also admit to having several other blind-spots, including “Illuminati” and reptilian shape-changers.

  367. utu says:
    @Heros

    Thanks and sorry. I jumped to the conclusion. The quote as appearing in wiki clearly missed the key sentence. As far as prosecutors in Nuremberg:

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/Nuremberg/Thomas_Dodd_ltr.html
    Consider these Sept. 25, 1945, observations from Tom Dodd, who would emerge as second in command on the American prosecution team:

    “You know how I have despised anti-Semitism. You know how strongly I feel toward those who preach intolerance of any kind. With that knowledge — you will understand when I tell you that this staff is about seventy-five percent Jewish. Now my point is that the Jews should stay away from this trial — for their own sake.
    “For — mark this well — the charge ‘a war for the Jews’ is still being made and in the post-war years it will be made again and again.

    “The too large percentage of Jewish men and women here will be cited as proof of this charge. Sometimes it seems that the Jews will never learn about these things. They seem intent on bringing new difficulties down on their own heads. I do not like to write about this matter –it is distasteful to me — but I am disturbed about it. They are pushing and crowding and competing with each other and with everyone else.”

  368. utu says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Denialists on this thread for your lack of ordinary human empathy

    Did you get in touch with your inner Jew? Treblinka narrative is the most problematic. I would never dare to quote what you have quoted with such a degree of confidence as you did. The denialists are correct to look for the holes in the official narratives. They are wrong however in claims that nothing took place. The Holocaust story should have been written using completely different language w/o excessive dose of empathy characterized by official storytellers and w/o excessive dose of derision characterized by the denialists.

  369. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Coming unglued, Haxo Angmark cited:
    Willenberg, Samuel: Surviving Treblinka (Oxford, 1989)

    This is a photo from that book:It is captioned: “crane lifting corpses destined for cremation”.
    Does anyone see any “corpses”? LOL

    Haxo Angmark cited:
    Raichman, Chil: The Last Jew of Treblinka (London, 2012)

    But Chil Rajchman said of Treblinka, in contradiction to other equally bogus claims, that there were eleven mass graves, all at least 50X30 meters and four stories deep. Several were supposed to be larger with at least one capable of holding 250,000 cadavers. Using the minimum of 50X30 meters for the graves there would be a total of 16,500 square meters of surface area of the graves. That equals over four acres. The site Treblinka was only about five acres in size, yet those who went looking for the alleged 900,000 Jew remains at Treblinka did not find them.

    A further, massive debunking of liar Rajchman recommended:
    Chil Rajchman’s Treblinka Memoirs

    http://inconvenienthistory.com/2/1/1916

    As for cited Richard Glazer, Mark Smith / Herschel Sperling, & Lea Prais, yep they’re shot down too, with ease, recommended:
    Treblinka< Wartime Aerial Photos of Treblinka Shoot down "Death Camp" Claims
    By Mark Weber , Andrew Allen

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2373/?lang=en

    Also note that Haxo Angmark never gives us a single quote from any of these references.

    Poor Haxo Angmark, he talks about “empathy” while the scientific & rationally minded talk about facts.

    http://www.codoh.com

  370. Wally says:
    @utu

    said:
    “The denialists are correct to look for the holes in the official narratives. They are wrong however in claims that nothing took place. The Holocaust story should have been written using completely different language w/o excessive dose of empathy characterized by official storytellers and w/o excessive dose of derision characterized by the denialists.”

    Stop your usual lying, no one says “nothing took place”. It’s called WWII.
    WWII was an ugly event.
    The Germans did nothing different from the Allies. Actually they did much less than the Allies. see: Irving & ‘holocaust’: Ron Unz: A Defender of Truth: http://www.unz.com/announcement/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/

    However, Revisionists certainly can & have demolished claims of ‘extermination of Jews, gays, gypsies’, & whoever is this month’s ‘victims’, by any of ridiculous methods that are claimed.

    I remind the readers here that you are someone who has had his head handed to him for trying to defend the impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers’. http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-post-war-france-and-post-war-germany/ comment 429:
    And, you & those like Haxo Angmark have tried their “holocaust-lite” fall back position and have been utterly routed.

    The fake ‘holocaust’ story deserves all the “derision” it gets. Innocent people were falsely executed, imprisoned. Revisionists are jailed, beaten, persecuted, stalked,and harassed because they exercise their right to free speech. The entire destructive and Jew centric post WWII political structure is largely based upon the fake ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    Times are changing, there’s no stopping the truth now.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Agree: Them Guys
  371. Them Guys says:
    @Heros

    [It's important to follow proper capitalization, spelling, grammar, and punctuation if you want your comments published.]

    Heros: Ironic how so many folks, still will believe in every or most every claim and even well proven false Jewish claim’s about the HoloHoax event. Even though otherwise, most such folks are very smart and wised up as to the MSM’s constant fake news/lies eh.

    I cannot even begin to count the vast number of such folks that post on many forums, who will tell anyone that will listen to, “Never, Ever again trust TV news, nor History/Hitler daily nonsense TV channel so called “documentaries “. Nor trust daily major newspapers or magazines, nor dem and neocon repub politition’s , nor wall street, Hollywood movies, etc. etc.

    Then turn around with next breath, and tell or write all about various claims they just Know are, and 100% believe it to be, Pure factual truth no matter how far fetched such wild claims are. Like for example some Jewish so called survivor telling others or tv news anchor how that evil Dr. Mengele did surgery on her, and without anesthesia so she was wide awake and felt every painful moment, while the evil SS Nazi Dr. Removed her both Hands and Re-Attached each hand backwards, left hand to right side, right hand on left side, and upside down!….That… such duped folks have No problem believing.

    And whenever anybody else Dares question their sanity, or even shows validated proof it never happened and that Jewish women Lied….The duped folk go off the rails with angry foaming at mouth cry’s of “You are a Jew hater and Antisemite!! An SS Nazi who wants to Kill another Six-Million Jews!” Even after you point out that most of what the duped folk trust and believe about holohoax/Jewish events came direct from the very same msm/Hollywood etc. sources these folks told you to never trust in!

    It is so wide spread it has to be something related not only to life long propagandas, and out right lie based brain washings we have All of Us been so subjected to. But it must go much deeper yet eh. As in most duped folks have either Parent/Father/Uncle…Or…Grandfather who went to war during WW II. Ergo they are totally unable to accept real factual evidence or other valid proofs, or remain in deep denial so they never have to admit their Dads or uncles or grand dads really weren’t the “Greatest Generation”, and were actually the greatest Duped and Used gen of soldiers etc.

    When one believes their parent or grand parent or uncles to be a true real live Hero via going into war and WW II especially, it is too much brain-strain, to admit such, and doing so would cause such folks to undergo a massive Discombobulation event, which for most is fully unacceptable to even attempt to admit and accept that they too have been so lied to for so long it ain’t funny.

    I bet if a proper good poll was taken and both Boomer age group Vs Youth group say, age no more than, 35 yrs old or so, give or take. The much younger ones would be far more likely to accept being told that whatever they were told or taught about the Jews–WW II—and Holohoax event was aprox. 98% Lies and fabrications Vs 2% true or factual…Than the older group would be.

    Most Boomer Gen folks have simply been lied to and brainwashed with holohoax/Jewish/WW II events for so damn long it has set in like cured cement. Tearing their minds away from it all, is like pulling apart two items glued together with Super Glue or, Gorilla Glue it seems. And for that reason of WWII, I think perhaps it plays the greatest reason of all for this phenomenon of refusal to change mind, and rejection of all contrary facts. It cannot just be great Fear of wrecked life or job loss due to being called vile names like Nazi or Jew hater anti-Semite. At least not when on a website forum where reply person is never known as to real names and can be anybody.

  372. @utu

    Who said “nothing took place”? That’s strawman bashing (as I’m sure you know).

  373. Seraphim says:
    @annamaria

    This furious backing of Browder suggests rather that his exposure risks to tumble the whole house of cards that is the ‘Kosher Nostra’. Browder was just a part of the whole system of the ‘oligarchs’ (Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, etc) plundering Russia and transferring the money to the banks controlled by the Kosher Nostra. People tend to forget the case of the money laundering scheme of the Bank of New York in the ’90s and the litigation which ensued once the Russians started to ask their money back ($7.5 billion), the bank being absolved of any ‘wrongdoing’. People forgot about the Madoff Ponzi scheme. People forget that all those ‘oligarchs’ became in turn the ‘No 1 enemies’, ‘the nemesis’, you name it, of Putin once he slaughterd the cash cow. People forget that Khodorkovsky was about to sell his enormous assets to renowned banker Jacob Rothschild (‘Lord Rothschild’, the 4th Baron), giving him the control of the ‘oil giant’ Yukos. Rothschild was also a Trustee of the Edmond J Safra Foundation (Safra who put the money for Browder’s operations in Russia).

    • Replies: @annamaria
  374. @Wally

    Wally’s remarks are, as usual, pure autism:

    since no historical document/artifact can ever be ABSOLUTELY proven authentic (there is always the possibility, however slim, that it’s a clever fake) any and all such are presumed authentic UNTIL DISPROVEN and can be used as such.

    but Wally’s “disproofs”, as usual, consist of Talmudic logic-chopping, insinuations, and non-sequiters.

    which is typical of the codoh playpen for autistic children.

    SS-Col. Jaeger, just an average guy, shot himself because he was feeling guilty and depressed about all those Jews he massacred. For sure, he had little to fear from a German court: many other EK, Order Police, SS/SD and etc. were tried during the post-Nuremburg area, and most all got wristslap sentences or walked immediately. In fact, of the 24 EK officers sentenced to death at the conclusion of the first Einsatzgruppe Trial (Green Books, Vol. VIII), 20 of the 24 death sentences were subsequently commuted and all concerned were free men by the mid-1950′s. This, courtesy of US High Commissioner John J. McCloy, and then giving Germany post-Nuremburg jurisdiction over its Jew-killers, was part of the Wall St. orchestrated Zionist-German deal by which Israhell got billions of marks in “holocaust reparations”.

    for the 11th time, most of the mass graves in the Baltic States, White Russia, and the Ukraine were during 1943-44 exhumed by Jewish sonderkommandos dragooned out of Auschwitz, and the bodies burned. Not all of them, though; fr’instance, several of the mass graves in the Babi Yar ravine near Kiev were missed…and some years after the war, thousands of rotting, liquified Jewish (and other) corpses came back during a massive debris flow into one of the suburbs. Quite a mess.

    here’s a parallel photodoc from the Ukraine, Vinnitsa district, c. August 1942, taken early on during a large-scale mass killing of female Jews by Ukrainian Hilfspolizei…Overall, about 60,000 Jews were shot in this area alone during the summer of ’42. And there are many similar on the net – anyone interested can find them by using an appropriate search term, e.g. “Einsatzgruppe mass shootings of Jews” – as such pix ooze from time to time out of postwar German attics:

    http://gordi-zionhelder.blogspot.com/2010/06/ukraine-ivangorod-probably-vinnitsa.html

    here’s another from the western Ukraine with German SS/SD doing the killing:

    and so on.

    yeah, Wally, I know: these are all “fakes! crisis actors!” etc., etc.

    you got…nothing. Except a gang of idiots who put agenda first, facts last.

  375. @Haxo Angmark

    apparently the Vinnitsa photo-link is kaput, so here it is on Imgur:

    http://imgur.com/a/WPkx2oH

    • Replies: @Wally
  376. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Jewish Nazis?

    F**kin’ based!

  377. Mr. Anon says:

    As near as I can recall, the last even slightly prominent figure in American public life who declared himself a “Nazi” was George Lincoln Rockwell during the 1960s, and he was much more of a political performance artist than an actual political leader. Even as marginalized a figure as David Duke has always hotly denied such an accusation.

    I’m not certain, but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a picture of David Duke dressed in brown-shirt and swastika armband handing out pamplets on a university campus. In which case, it’s quite a stretch for him to deny the accusation.

  378. Heros says:

    “Since no historical document/artifact can ever be ABSOLUTELY proven authentic (there is always the possibility, however slim, that it’s a clever fake) any and all such are presumed authentic UNTIL DISPROVEN and can be used as such.”

    Absolute hogwash. Testimony from a proven liar has to be discarded in court, but we are not looking at a single crime in court, we are looking at a centuries long crime spree committed by a collective of jewish gangsters who have been proved to be liars over and over again, generation after generation. They even have religious rituals, often celebrated with the blood extracted from Christian babies and children, to celebrate their sadistic crimes. They have holidays to expunge their guilt for lies, fraud, murder and torture of Christians. Who had Christ crucified? Who guaranteed to the world and the UN that there would be a Palestine? Who is at this moment committing the most heinous crime against humanity possible, when applied to themselves anyway, that of genocide?

    One important way to disprove a “document/artifact” is to show that the author is a liar, and with this collective of psychopaths that is quite an easy task. Just look at the other holy grail of jew mind control, 9/11. There is clearly an ongoing purge of the “truther” movement that is reaching a crescendo as I write this. Alex Jones was the biggest 9/11″conpiracy theorist” of them all, and they have now silenced him. They are desperately trying to link 9/11 truth to anti-semitism, and then to their new holocaust religion. They are deperate to keep the goyim from analyzing all their lies.

    So just as with 9/11, the burden is on the jews to make the case that they weren’t involved in faking the holocaust, and they need to do it with out circular references back to more jew lies. In this Unz AP series, it has been proven that it was the jews who started the Russian revolution and ritually sacrificed the Tsar, and also we know that these jewish communists falsified thousands, if not even 6 million, documents after the war, so the entire testimony of the USSR and the Red Rothschild Army has to be thrown out until each assertion can individually be proved to be true. This is just the same for jew lies about Palestine or 9/11.

    As I wrote previously, I think you are a disinformation agent. I think you are deliberately poisoning the well of truth with your lies and half truths. I strongly suspect that you are a Hasbara jew. One reason for this is your attacks on Wally, like these:

    “there is no book saying “all that”….and won’t be one unless/until I write it. ”

    “I’ve studied them all, plus thousands of other narratives and first-handers.”

    “see that flyspeck on the wall across from you? Yeah, that one. That’s what you know about the 1933-45 events. The rest of the wall is what I know.”

    Although it is possible you truly believe all this arrogant drivel, it is far more likely that you are a disinformation agent who, as I said before, is crapping your lies into the pool of truth.

  379. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Here’s the photo, you, Haxo Anmark submit as proof of the ‘holocaust’. https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1645
    ‘Shot dead nude women’ with no bullet holes, no blood, and the ‘shooters’ are not in German uniforms.
    And we’re told that it was all ‘Top Secret’, but then we’re supposed to believe guys just went around and snapped pictures . LOL

    Haxo Angmark, you said:
    “since no historical document/artifact can ever be ABSOLUTELY proven authentic (there is always the possibility, however slim, that it’s a clever fake) any and all such are presumed authentic UNTIL DISPROVEN and can be used as such. ”

    Indeed, I’ve just disproven what you you think is real. LOL
    Certainly there are countless real historical documents, we note your sophomoric & desperate strawman, but there are none which provide proof of the ‘holocaust’ narrative. Simple as that.
    Keep trying there little boy, I’ll just keep making a fool of you.

    Hey child, here’s another fake:
    The Franke-Gricksch “Resettlement Action Report”: Anatomy of a Fabrication

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/11/3/Renk261-279.html

    alos see: The Franke Gricksch Report: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=427&p=2564

    Your other ‘photo’ link (Vinnitsa) doesn’t work, can’t you even get that right?
    No problem here’s more fake photos:
    fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos – only liars need fakes: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=441

    Haxo Angmark said, and apparently ignoring or stupidly forgeting previous rebuttals:
    “or the 11th time, most of the mass graves in the Baltic States, White Russia, and the Ukraine were during 1943-44 exhumed by Jewish sonderkommandos dragooned out of Auschwitz, and the bodies burned. Not all of them, though; fr’instance, several of the mass graves in the Babi Yar ravine near Kiev were missed…and some years after the war, thousands of rotting, liquified Jewish (and other) corpses came back during a massive debris flow into one of the suburbs.”

    I’ve already taken care of all of that, you dodged it of course. See my comment # 550 at: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-anti-semitism-a-century-ago/
    complete with this fake photo of Babi Yar, a real gem, LOL:
    And this one which was direct response to you IN THIS VERY SAME THREAD, dummy. comment #194 at: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-jews-and-nazis/

    You are clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed and with that I say good night.

    http://www.codoh.om

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  380. @Wally

    Wally,

    Thanks for that expose of that ridiculous forgery The Franke Gricksch Report:

    from the report:

    After 300-400 people have gathered in this room, the doors are closed and from above the containers with the materials are let down into the pillars. When the containers reach the base of the pillars, they produce certain substances that put people to sleep in one minute. A few minutes later, the door on the other side, which leads to an elevator, is opened. The hair of the corpses is cut off, and the teeth (gold teeth) are broken out by specialists (Jews). It has been observed that Jews have hidden jewelry objects, gold, platinum, etc., in hollow teeth. The corpses are then loaded into the elevators and are taken to the first floor. There are located ten large crematory ovens, in which the corpses are burned. (Because fresh corpses burn particularly well, the entire process requires only one-half to one Zentner [50 to 100 pounds] of coke). The work itself is carried out by Jewish prisoners who will never leave this camp.

    LMAO that’s 0.125 to 0.250 pounds of coke per person, did the Jews have gasoline in their bodies instead of blood? None too bright these frauds.

  381. Seraphim says:
    @Anonymous

    You can get it for free on [email protected]/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf

  382. nagra says:
    @L.K

    @ L.K
    I would recommend you to examine Vatican role before “troll” labelling

  383. annamaria says:
    @Seraphim

    Thank you for the bird-eye overview. Clears a lot. The UK government (“advised” by the Friends of Israel) and the US Congress (toghtly controlled by the Jewish Lobby) are two important reservations of shabbos goys obeying the zionists orders. The same is true about the so-called “Intelligence Community” run by the unintelligent opportunists in the UK and the US — they are in service to Kosher Nostra as well.
    “All the ‘Kosher Nostra’ horses…:” https://spectator.org/comey-and-brennan-leaders-of-the-coup/ “Mueller hasn’t even interviewed Brennan, the original spinner of the Trump-Russia fable”

    –The zio-criminals can be quite brutal towards other Jews when a situation requires it critically. This is instructive:
    “Edmond J. Safra, a descendant of a banking dynasty from Syria [a Lebanese Jew], was a colossus of the finance world who established banks across Brazil, Switzerland and the United States. In 1999 he sold his holdings in Republic New York Corporation and Safra Republic Holdings – both specialized in private banking –to London-based HSBC [Comey & Brennan come to mind] for $10.3 billion in cash. As a result of that sale, the assets of Safra’s wealthy international clients were transferred to the HSBC private banking branch in Switzerland. Months later, Safra died in a fire at his luxury penthouse in Monaco. He was 67. His American nurse was later convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison for setting the fire, hoping to stage a rescue and appear a hero.”

    https://truthfeed.com/corrupt-hsbc-global-bank-exec-arressted-links-to-hillary-james-comey-and-loretta-lynch/12683/

    – See the same infusion of “Russian menace” in Safra case (as it was used actively by Browder): “Sources in the City of London said the Beirut-born Mr Safra, 67, knew there was a “contract on his life” and pointed to a possible “Russian connection”. Mr Safra’s American bank unmasked the embezzlement of international aid to Moscow last year.
    The attack – a month before the completion of the pounds 7bn sale of Mr Safra’s New York and Luxembourg banks to the British banking giant HSBC - sent a shudder through the super rich of Monaco, where violent crime is almost unknown.”
    – Money. The only way to do with Browder and his Kosher Nostra backers is to unravel the financial documents exposing the backers’ crimes. They have no shame and no scuples, but they are over-sensitive about their money.

  384. annamaria says:

    Handling a poisonous and stupid snake of the Jewish State by the true survivors: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/08/israels-strategic-collapse-how-putin-sandbagged-netanyahu/
    “While some in both the Russian and Israeli media sphere will report on the deployment of Russian soldiers to the Golan Heights region as being a sign of Russia’s commitment to ensuring Israel’s strategic interests, rather it does so in a very different way, ensuring Israel’s security from it’s own mis-leadership in the image of Netanyahu.”

  385. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Thanks. Another of your hilarious fakes, only liars need to create fake ‘photos’.

    [MORE]

    You can even see the cut & paste line just above the alleged corpses.
    Notice the lack of bullet holes & blood.
    Notice we see some pasted in staged ‘corpses’ on the lower edge while we then see piles clothing, paper, whatever, to give the impression of more.
    Notice the completely empty background.
    There is no proof that this photo is real. It’s laughable.
    There is no physical proof that this alleged action ever happened, even though it’s claimed that the human remains still exist.

    see more fake ‘Vinnitsa” photos debunked here:
    fake Einsatzgruppen shooting photos – only liars need fakes

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=441&p=87757

    Here’s another beauty. Tell us why you believe in this photo, haxo Angmark. LOL

    see: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10290

    Keep ‘em coming Haxo Angmark. Keep making a fool of yourself.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  386. MEH 0910 says:

    OT: Ron Unz, for the last several days, whenever I open or refresh UR pages that contain comments with Dailymotion videos in them, the videos start autoplaying, which is annoying. That doesn’t happen with the YouTube or Vimeo videos.

  387. @Haxo Angmark

    To use but a single example – Treblinka- not only is there absolutely no archaeological evidence that such a massive exhumation occurred, there is no evidence that the excavation to create the graves took place to begin with. Remember, the area in question is comparable in size to Katyn, where 20K were shot and buried, not 700-900K.

    I don’t doubt that the Germans probably dug up and burned bodies from anti-partisan actions as they retreated in the East (being ever mindful of WW1 black propaganda), but the numbers of bodies couldn’t have been more than the order of thousands, not millions (which is just absurd).

    • Replies: @Wally
  388. @Reddings

    What’s wrong with reading and replying on your smartphone? Or are you censored even on that?

  389. George says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)

    Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the British during World War II. Lehi initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine.[2] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.[2] During World War II, it declared that it would establish a Jewish state based upon “nationalist and totalitarian principles”.[2][19] After Stern’s death in 1942, the new leadership of Lehi began to move it towards support for Joseph Stalin’s Soviet Union.[1] In 1944, Lehi officially declared its support for National Bolshevism.[6] It said that its National Bolshevism involved an amalgamation of left-wing and right-wing political elements – Stern said Lehi incorporated elements of both the left and the right[2] – however this change was unpopular and Lehi began to lose support as a result.[20]

    Lehi and the Irgun were jointly responsible for the massacre in Deir Yassin. Lehi assassinated Lord Moyne…assassination of Folke Bernadotte some months later…a general amnesty to Lehi members…”award for activity in the struggle for the establishment of Israel”, the Lehi ribbon

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  390. @SolontoCroesus

    If Frankfurter wasn’t foreseeably likely to have to recuse himself from a SCOTUS appeal as a result of his advising Roosevelt why was it even a minor violation of his duty?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  391. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    said;
    “I don’t doubt that the Germans probably dug up and burned bodies from anti-partisan actions as they retreated in the East (being ever mindful of WW1 black propaganda), but the numbers of bodies couldn’t have been more than the order of thousands, not millions (which is just absurd).”

    Why don’t you doubt it? There is no proof they did, period.
    Otherwise we’d be seeing the alleged mass graves with the alleged contents shown, we do not.
    No backpedaling, there’s no reason to.

    Thanks.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  392. Erik99 says:

    I don’t think Edwin Black hides the size of his research teams, so his being able to research and publish faster in itself doesn’t seem to indicate any ulterior intent. From the intro to “War Against the Weak”:

    “More than fifty researchers in fifteen cities in four countries, assisted by scores of archivists and librarians at more than one hundred institutions, combined to ingather and organize some 50,000 documents….”

    “I must begin by thanking my corps of skilled researchers, mostly volunteers. Because the information needed for “War Against the Weak” resided in many out-of-the-way archives as well as major repositories, the challenge was to locate the right person in the right place at the right time…”

    “Recruits came from…. as well as the devoted research team involved with my previous books, “IBM and the Holocaust” and “The Transfer Agreement.” “

  393. @Wizard of Oz

    Too many known conflicts of interest:

    . . .He moved to Washington, DC, commuting back to Harvard for classes, but felt that he was never fully accepted within government circles. He worked closely with Louis Brandeis, lobbying for political activities suggested by Brandeis. . . .

    . . .[Frankfurter] used a donation from the financier Jacob Schiff to create a position for him [in Washington, DC] . . . [It is also claimed that Louis Brandeis supported Frankfurter financially, which secured Felix's position at Harvard - ed.].

    “Frankfurter was encouraged by Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis to become more involved in Zionism.[6] With Brandeis he lobbied President Wilson to support the Balfour Declaration, a British government statement supporting the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.[6] In 1918, he participated in the founding conference of the American Jewish Congress in Philadelphia, creating a national democratic organization of Jewish leaders from all over the US.[23] In 1919, Frankfurter served as a Zionist delegate to the Paris Peace Conference . . .

    The Senate confirmation hearing on the nomination of Frankfurter was notable for the opposition which arose. In addition to the objection
    ~that he was considered to be the President’s unofficial advisor,
    ~that he was affiliated with special interest groups,
    ~that there were now no justices from west of the Mississippi,
    opposing groups and individuals appearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee pointed to Frankfurter as
    ~foreign-born and
    ~deemed to be affiliated with an anti-Christian movement viewed as part of a broader Communist infiltration into the country.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Frankfurter

    All claims were known, true, and consequential. Frankfurter had ‘divided loyalties.’

    Furthermore, the court packing scheme having failed shortly before Frankfurter took a seat on the Court; and inasmuch as Frankfurter was the nexus of the “hot dogs” who created New Deal policies that were the target of the Court Packing scheme, it is not unreasonable to suppose that a case would find its way before the Supreme Court that would challenge New Deal / FDR issues.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  394. @Wally

    re the Vinnitsa photo:

    *that’s not a “cut and paste” line. It’s clearly some heavy rope webbing the Ukes/Germans strung up to keep the – pretty dry by late summer – earth in place. Note the downward curve from right edge inward.

    *the photo isn’t close enough to detail “bullet holes and blood”.

    *there are no “pasted in” corpses: taking photos during the mass shootings was generally discouraged, and the pic was taken quickly, with the lens moving…thus the smudging at lower right.

    *the “background” is empty because you’re looking upward at a horizon.

    and yeah, the 2nd pic is a weird, transparent fraud. Bring the eyewash.

    All this said, and looking back at the entire thread, I feel like Custer at Little Big Horn…who roused a hornet’s nest and got

    annihilated. Even my only ally, utu, has deserted me. I am most impressed by the manner in which Wally and the autistic codoh kids have erupted from their playpen and, deploying the same Talmudic tricks used by the High Priests of Holocaustianity – tautology and circular logic, argument-by-definition, logic-chopping, tendentious abuse of documents, non-sequiter, doubling-down, personal abuse and, above all,

    brazen Chutzpah,

    have routed me. Accordingly, I am now going to admit the possibility that in general the Third Reich and the 5,000,000 Jews of Nazi-occupied Europe got along like

    orange sherbet and vanilla ice cream. Or, perhaps a better analogy,

    bumblebees and clover.

    so, proceed with your deconstructive activities. I’ll stop by codoh from time to time to see if there’ve been any useful discoveries.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @tac
  395. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    It was in Brownsville Tx 1918 that a black unit occupied and looted the armory. The killed some White soldiers and then marched to the town to kill a d loot.
    Luckily, Texas in 1918 all the townspeople were armed. It’s taught in your kids history books as an attack in the peaceful virtuous blacks by evil KKK
    Whites.

  396. cassandra says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Sticks and stones aren’t an argument:

    Now, I don’t blame you or Wally or any of the other autistic Denialists on this thread for your lack of ordinary human empathy…or your inablity to read/write plain English.

    Empathy? Are you NUTS? Or just a scoundrel?

    Emoting when you’re studying evidence is a recipe for delusion. This may be your aim, but if I could, I’d read Nazi history in the same mindset that I’d read about the abuses of Vlad Tepes: somewhat distressed but not cognitively disabled. I consider it a character flaw that I can’t always achieve such detachment.

    Only a propagandist would prefer to see emotion overrule judgment. A few magazine covers showing Putin with blood-drenched fangs, and Voila, we’re prepped to accept fact-free “estimates” and “consensus” submitted by the media for our approval. Wallowing in empathy while you’re trying to understand a situation is a great way to enter an intellectual twilight zone. A hallmark of propaganda articles is presenting emotional issues before factual.

    It’s best to keep empathy, and emotions in general, at bay until after conclusions are drawn and facts established, when it won’t cause us to reject hypotheses just because they’re vile, or accepting data because they cause dissonance.

    Thanks for the references; I’ll check them out.

  397. utu says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Even my only ally, utu, has deserted me.

    Not exactly. I got slightly disappointed with you when you turned out not to be as savvy as I expected when you invoked empathy in the argument. They are playing hardball, there is no room for empathy. Empathy can held you back and can be used to manipulate you. Besides Jewish victims of WWII sucked up way too much empathy form the Universe. Now the empathy resources of Universe are depleted.

    Most Christians should not engage in theological discussions with Jehovah Witnesses that inevitably lead to finding obscure citations in bible. Obviously it does not lead to any greater truth because it is a form of eristic technique that Jehovah Witnesses are trained in. The Jehovah Witnesses are not very smart but they are polite and civil. You are dealing here with kind of Jehovah Witnesses who are not civil and who will resort to bad faith arguments. Take this Wally fellow. He is a typical libertarian simpleton who for whatever reasons got into the proselytism of CODOH gospel. He is well versed in his bible but unlike Jehovah Witnesses he has no scruples of making bold pronouncements like: this victim lied or that photo is fake and so on when confronted with some counterarguments.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wally
  398. @Wally

    Um, well there wouldn’t be much point in propagandizing graves holding thousands when the claimed crimes number in the millions, would there? The whole “Big Lie” thing. The gas chambers are a hoax, to be sure, but it seems likely that the victims mass shootings on the Eastern Front numbered on the order of low 100K’s.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @L.K
  399. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    That gordizionholder picture is actually a 1934 picture of Russian Jewish communists killing Christian Kulak women.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  400. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    said:
    “Um, well there wouldn’t be much point in propagandizing graves holding thousands when the claimed crimes number in the millions, would there? The whole “Big Lie” thing. The gas chambers are a hoax, to be sure, but it seems likely that the victims mass shootings on the Eastern Front numbered on the order of low 100K’s.”

    “Sure seems”?

    Based upon what excavations? What proof? Where?

    There’s no need to throw them a bone if it’s not warranted. Apply the same rigor here as you would with the fake ‘gas chambers’, Auschwitz, Treblinka, etc.

    The alleged eastern mass shootings in court:

    “Please your honor, there really are remains of hundreds of thousands of Jews buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are to this day, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we seem to think it’s likely.”

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  401. Seraphim says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    There was no ‘esoteric cult’ of any kind (which were all sub variants of Free Masonry) which gave birth to the National Socialist Party of the German Workers (NSDAP).

    One must read ‘Mein Kampf’ to see the scathing contempt in which Hitler held these “wandering scholars who were peddling Germanic folk-lore and who never accomplished anything positive or practical, except to cultivate their own superabundant self-concei”, the “Teutonic Methuselah who had been ineffectively preaching some idea for a period of forty years, until himself and his idea had entered the stage of senile decay…. the persons that rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woefullest poltroons imaginable. For those very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone. And thus they skedaddle when the first communist cudgel appears. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators”. Moreover he was perfectly aware of their Jewish origin: “I have seen too much of that kind of people not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these folk-lore comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State… The impression which I often get, especially of those so-called religious reformers whose creed is grounded on ancient Germanic customs, is that they are the missionaries and protégés of those forces which do not wish to see a national revival taking place in Germany. All their activities tend to turn the attention of the people away from the necessity of fighting together in a common cause against the common enemy, namely the Jew”.

    The meme of the ‘esoteric origin’ of ‘Nazism’ was launched and is still peddled by ‘conspiracy theorists’, actually as a psy-op to counter act the idea of a ‘Jewish conspiracy’ (Protocols, Kabbalists, Sabbatean-Frankists and all that). It is behind all ‘White supremacist’ groupthink which fight against a straw man.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @j2
  402. Wally says:
    @utu

    said:
    “Take this Wally fellow. He is a typical libertarian simpleton who for whatever reasons got into the proselytism of CODOH gospel. He is well versed in his bible but unlike Jehovah Witnesses he has no scruples of making bold pronouncements like: this victim lied or that photo is fake and so on when confronted with some counterarguments.”

    - Tell us specifically what research presented at CODOH is wrong and why.

    - What “counter arguments”? Don’t make everyone here laugh. The ones that you and Haxo Angmark have tried and been slapped silly over? Go ahead, bring some more and embarrass yourself again. We’re waiting.

    [MORE]

    - Photos so obviously fake that they were never even presented in court, that a 3 yr. old would be laughing, at.
    Documents so obviously fake that they were never presented in court, that a 3 yr. old would be laughing at.
    I note you dodged my specific comments about what indicates that they are fake. But hey, you are a True Believer and nothing, not even facts will shake your faith in the impossible.

    -Everyone, UTU thinks this laughably fake photo is proof that 34,000 Jews were killed at Babi Yar.

    See lots more in comment 386 of this thread.

    - The complete lack of alleged human remains is allegedly known places which you try to ignore, because you ‘Believe’.

    - The alleged ‘gas chambers’ which scientifically could not have worked as alleged.
    Everyone take note, I have caught UTU making a fool of himself in trying defend the impossible ‘gas chambers’, here for just one example:
    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-post-war-france-and-post-war-germany/ comment 429.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  403. Wally says:
    @utu

    Another ‘holocau$t’ fake which UTU is in denial of:
    U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a gas chamber at Majdanek
    see text: http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.html

    [MORE]


    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Only liars demand censorship.
    http://www.codoh.com

  404. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    The meme of the ‘esoteric origin’ of ‘Nazism’ was launched and is still peddled by ‘conspiracy theorists’, actually as a psy-op to counter act the idea of a ‘Jewish conspiracy’ (Protocols, Kabbalists, Sabbatean-Frankists and all that). It is behind all ‘White supremacist’ groupthink which fight against a straw man.

    I agree.

    Why do you think we know so little about all the archives of secret societies that Nazis confiscated? Julius Evola was doing research in one in Vienna during WWII. Many of these archives were later captured by Soviets and surprisingly at some point some of them were returned to the rightful owners. Soviets always has a weak spot for masons unlike the Nazis, at leas outwardly.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  405. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Heros

    Truman was selected in 1944. It was to get rid of FDR’s communist third Vice President, Henry Wallace. FDR’s health was bad. The Jewish intellectual communist Eleanor & Franklin Roosevelt wing of the party wanted to keep Wallace.

    The labor unions and southerners wanted Truman.

  406. @Wally

    German documentation of the shootings suggests such a number. Yes, some of these are suspect, but the critical point is that they clearly took place in the context of anti-partisan operations and were not part of some “extermination plan”. (Not to mention that the 1-2M “Holocaust by bullets” is bunk.) It will be very interesting to see Mattogno’s book on the Einsatzgruppen later in the year, I assume he will arrive at a fairly authoritative estimate.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Haxo Angmark
  407. @SolontoCroesus

    Very interesting if not quite justifying your peremptory shorthand version. There have been some occasions in Australia where judges giving advice (after appointment trent which is the point here) which might have led to them having to recuse themselves (an American coinage I believe) has raised some mostly decorous controversy. I think social media and increasingly divisive political postures probably tend to make judges very careful these days.

    As it happens, when I was cery young I got to know one of Australia’s and the common law world’s greatest jurists quite well and often wish I had known so much more about everything because I could have asked him about his friend and correspondent Frankfurter whom he had got to know in DC (and probably got him his Harvards honorary doctorate. I would love to have read the correspondence. As it is I never heard that conservative Australian say anything that supports an adverse view of Frankfurter which is of some significance because he had no problem about making generalizations about Jews from his own observations at least in large part while he also had the highest possible regard for his late fellow hiking club member General Sir John Monash.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  408. @Wizard of Oz

    It may be worth adding that Felux Frankfurter was respected as a very learned old fashioned lawyer with sound judicial technique who couldn’t be blamed for the appalling problems – as the Australian might have expressed it – of having a Bill of Rights added to the Constitution that had to be given meaning.and application with little or no assistance from any carefully drafted statute.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  409. Blake says:

    The truth must be revealed….
    1] IN 1935 Nuremburg Laws, under Hitler, only two flags were allowed to be displayed in ALL of fascist Germany: The swastika and the blue and white Zionist flag!! (Source: “51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis” by LENNI BRENNER)
    2] Zionists helped break the Jewish boycott of Nazi Germany by relabelling German products as being made in Palestine.
    3] “Indeed, a key component in Hitler’s persecution of the Jews before 1941 was the encouragement of Jewish emigration from Germany and settlement in the Jewish National Home in Palestine. This policy, in direct conflict with Arab national interests in Palestine and generally throughout the Middle East, was pursued by Hitler’s regime before and even during the early part of the war. Hitler’s government supported the continuation of British rule in Palestine over the objections of Palestine’s Arab inhabitants…. Hitler’s fundamental support for continued European imperial domination of the Middle East, and consequently, his general disinterest in the idea of Arab independence.” – Francis R. Nicosia, Zionism and Anti-Semitism in Nazi Germany (New York: Cambridge University Press, 2008).
    4] Hitler admired the fascist zionist movement and even called it a “Great movement” in his “Mein Kampf”

    • Replies: @Wally
  410. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    said:
    “German documentation of the shootings suggests such a number. Yes, some of these are suspect, but the critical point is that they clearly took place in the context of anti-partisan operations and were not part of some “extermination plan”. (Not to mention that the 1-2M “Holocaust by bullets” is bunk.) It will be very interesting to see Mattogno’s book on the Einsatzgruppen later in the year, I assume he will arrive at a fairly authoritative estimate.”

    What German “documentation”?

    Show us this alleged “documentation”.

    What “such a number”?

    It’s amazing how allegations fall apart by simply asking for proof.

    http://www.codoh.com

  411. @Dan Hayes

    It comes from having “fuck you” money[1]; if your economic circumstances are such that nobody can undermine your livelihood, then your search for truth is not bounded by the Overton Window.

    Plus, it’s really useful for the Mossad (and its allies in Five Eyes) to be able to trawl the comments here, and identify those among us who doubleplus unbellyfeel IngSoc or are collaborators of Emmanuel Goldstein seeking to undermine Airstrip One.

    From there, it’s a quick IP-address cross-reference with the scrape of StormFront (to work out who you can safely ignore), and SHA-ZAYUM!!!, you got your “people to keep an eye on”.

    I only come here for the articles, obviously.

    [1] I’m kinda guessing, since there was no disclosure of the terms of the acquisition of Wall Street Analytics by Moody’s (in 2006, if memory serves) – but Moody’s would over-value a fuck in a brothel, so I’m picking that they overpaid… more power to him if they did: I hope he made out like a fucking bandit.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Anonymous
  412. @Wizard of Oz

    In my opinion — jaundiced as it might be and certainly liable to be branded antisemitic, Frankfurter was a traitor to USA, employed by — and used by — zionism’s highest echelon to advance zionist interests.

    His name — and that of Louis Brandeis– should be stricken from any roll of honorable men in USA history: Let him be Anathema.

    He worked for and advanced zionist interests, exploiting American treasure, blood, institutions.

    James Clark McReynolds sat on the Supreme Court with Brandeis and Frankfurter and despised them. He is, of course, derogated and dismissed as a “vicious antisemite.”

    I suspect McReynolds found himself overwhelmed with the enormity of the outrages being perpetrated by zionists in Wilson’s (who appointed McReynolds) and FDR’s administration.

    McReynolds is a hero.
    Frankfurter is a villain.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Bukowski
  413. MikeP says:
    @Jay2331

    I just read the JTA article.

    “Bauer and other historians who knew Wiesenthal said the Nazi hunter told them that he chose the 5 million number carefully: He wanted a number large enough to attract the attention of non-Jews who might not otherwise care about Jewish suffering, but not larger than the actual number of Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust, 6 million.” … In fact, he said, the term “genocide” could accurately be applied to the 2 million to 3 million Poles murdered and millions more enslaved by the Nazis. But the mass murder of the Poles, Roma and others should not come under the rubric “Holocaust,” a term that Holocaust historians generally dislike because of its religious connotations but nonetheless have accepted as describing only the annihilation that the Nazis hoped to visit on the Jews. “All Jews of the world had to be annihilated,” Bauer said. “That was the intent. There was never an idea in Nazi minds to murder all the Russians.”
    ….
    Jewish academics arguing that Jews lied about the numbers now that the lie doesn’t suit their interest. And Jewish academics arguing that the “holocaust” — originally the “burring of Jews” but now the “burning of Jews by bullets” — is different from a “genocide” because the intent was to kill all Jews wordwide (for which there simply is no substantial evidence).

    I think the question is no longer whether the holocaust did or didn’t happen, but whether what happened sufficiently resembles the holocaust realists’ “holocaust” to justify the name.

    I think one can make a strong sematic-eliminativist case against the “holocaust”, given many of these punitively enforced defintions. Can someone make a list of typical definitions used by prominent holocaust realists?

    • Replies: @Wally
  414. Seraphim says:
    @utu

    Do you know what archive was Evola researching in Vienna? Are you sure that there were ‘archives’ and not the copies of the magazine ‘Ostara’ which Hitler retired from circulation?

    About the ‘masons’ it is good to know that the founder of the ‘Thule Society’ Rudolf Glauer, alias Rudolf Freiherr von Sebottendorff (or von Sebottendorf) was a swindler and ‘intelligence agent’ in Turkey, where he involved himself with the circles of the Young Turks and of Jewish masons from Thessaloniki, suspect of being actually a double agent working for the British and the Bolsheviks. The ‘mysteries’ in which he was involved were a convenient cover for espionage and political plots which Masonry always was (most famous theosophists, occultists, sufists, etc have been notorious spies, Helena Blavatsky, Gurdjieff, Aleister Crowley).
    Interesting affirmation of Wikipedia: “Glauer had left the Thule Society and Bavaria, having been accused of negligence in allegedly allowing the names of several key Thule Society members to fall into the hands of the government of the short-lived Bavarian Soviet Republic, resulting in the execution of seven members after the attack on the Munich government in April 1919, an accusation that he never denied. Sebottendorf fled Germany for Switzerland and then Turkey”. When he returned to Germany in 1933, Hitler had him arrested, put in a camp and expelled back to Turkey.
    It would be interesting to find out whether in his period in Turkey he had any relations with Alexander Parvus, who exactly in the same period (1912) became the financial and political advisor of the Young Turks and editor of Turk Yurdu, their daily newspaper, while actively involved in arms trafficking and also suspected of being a British agent. Glauer returned to Germany in 1913 and founded the Thule.
    But the plot thickens:
    “There is an urban legend in Turkey which claims Sebottendorff and Dr. Şefik Hüsnü Değmer [*] (1887-1959) the founder of the turkish newspaper Aydinlik, (also the head of the Turkish Communist Party) were actually the same people, but this claim has no backing”.
    [*] Between 1929-1939 he lived in Europe. He was a member of the Executive Committee of the Comintern between 1929-1935. He was arrested by the Nazis because of the case of “Reichstag Fire”. He turned back to Turkey in 1939″@ http://maviboncuk.blogspot.com/2012/02/stange-case-of-rudolf-von-sebottendorf.html

    • Replies: @utu
    , @utu
  415. Desperado says:

    “David Irving – WW2 Lies So Big Few Have The Courage To Believe”

    This is an Irving presentation in mp3 podcast format made before ZOG had him arrested, transported to Germany, and thrown in prison where they tortured him and broke his spirit.

    https://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/2018/08/08/the-andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-743-david-irving-ww2-lies-so-big-few-have-the-courage-to-believe-part-1/

    https://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/2018/08/09/the-andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-744-david-irving-ww2-lies-so-big-few-have-the-courage-to-believe-part-2/

    In the second half of part 1, Irving describes how Auschwitz is the flag ship of the holohoax fleet. He says that if you sink the JP Auschwitz then the rest of the fleet will go down quickly.

    Among other things, He describes his visits to the Soviet Archives after the war, where he found the complete Auschwitz Coke/Coal requisition requests for the entire war, and this was only enough to cremate about 60,000 people. He also describes the intercepted and MI5 cracked daily transmissions from Höss at Auschwitz to SS headquarters in which deaths were broken down in detail including the number of executions by hanging and by shooting. Irving says that in total, the number of executions was minuscule compared to those who died my natural causes, and that in total the number of deaths was about 60,000-70,000, IIRC.

    The Red Cross report came in with about 270,000 dead at Auschwitz, and has always been ridiculed by jews as being absurdly low. In fact we can see from Irving’s information that the RC report was 400% bloated and would be a typical case of judaic spreading of disinformation. JP at its finest.

  416. Dan Hayes says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Kratoklastes:

    There are plenty of people rolling in much more “f..k you” money than Ron has. But none of them have ever come anyway to the fore as he has – not even in the same ball park!

    It takes intestinal fortitude to do what Ron is doing. We all know that the usual suspects (SPLC, ADL, etc) are monitoring the UR to uncover transgressions. But more threatening is Deep State monitoring whose purpose is to bring judicial retribution. An example of the latter is the incarceration of Dinesh D’Souza for a relatively minor transgression. (BTW, I personally hold D’Souza in contempt for many duplicitous actions starting with his smearing of Sam Francis.)

  417. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    About Evola’s work in Vienna it is only mentioned in many places but never elaborated further like for instance here:

    https://evolaasheis.wordpress.com
    in 1944, following the invasion of Italy by the Anglo-Saxon cannon fodder of the anti-European forces, J. Evola moved to Austria, where, in Vienna, he was commissioned by the SS to translate Freemasonic documents seized by the Gestapo from various lodges which had just been raided by the SS, if indeed “the SS as a whole was not favorably inclined toward him” ? Miguel Serrano writes that “In Vienna it was possible for me to read an internal communication among several SS centers in which they recommended Julius Evola not be given facilities to expound ‘his esotericism’” (The Last Avatar).

  418. utu says:
    @Seraphim

    ‘Returned from Russia: Nazi Archival Plunder in Western Europe and Recent Restitution Issues’

    https://www.lootedart.com/MRJSPN312881

    During the Second World War, various Nazi agencies competed for the plunder of occupied Europe’s archival heritage – from key documentation of military intelligence (such as French Deuxième Bureau) and government security agencies to trade-union records, files of Masonic lodges and Jewish Communities, and personal papers of prominent individuals.

    At war’s end, the victorious Red Army found some of the most important Nazi hideouts. Many of Europe’s captured archives were seized a second time and rushed to Moscow on Beriia’s orders, where they remained in secret for almost half a century. When the Russian Federation was admitted to the Council of Europe in 1996 it promised to expedite “the return of property claimed by Council of Europe member States, in particular the archives transferred to Moscow in 1945.”

    Since then only five instances of archival returns have been finalised on the basis of the new Russian law – four handled diplomatically to France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, and a fifth, the Rothschild family papers from Vienna, as the first instance of a private family arrangement.

    This volume brings together for the first time reports by key individuals who took part in the negotiations for the return of those twice-plundered archives.

    In the first half of the volume, American historian and archival specialist Patricia Kennedy Grimsted reveals her veritable detective story of the seizure and dramatic fate of those records in Nazi and Soviet hands and the post-1991 political battle within Russia over their restitution.

    In the second half of the volume, the stories of individual countries are told, with the focus on the returned archives of France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, together with the Austrian Rothschild archives.

    • Replies: @Wally
  419. j2 says:
    @Seraphim

    “There was no ‘esoteric cult’ of any kind (which were all sub variants of Free Masonry) which gave birth to the National Socialist Party of the German Workers (NSDAP). ”

    A small comment to that. Maybe I am wrong, but it looks like this to me:

    Freemasonry was esoteric in the sense that it has rites and esoteric lore, but the goal of the Brotherhood was changing the world to the ideals of Enlightenment, that is, replacing the nobility as the ruling class by other people, destroying the power of the clergy and so on. These goals were all political. The methods that were used included infiltration, revolutions and wars. As an example Frederic the Great was the head of German Freemasonry and used this organization and the cult of Jacob Frank for weakening Poland, which was then divided. Freemasons created the USA and made the 1789 revolution in France and tried a similar thing in Poland.

    Freemasons typically were not people, who were especially interested in esoteric or occult issues. They could not discuss about Bible with Seraphim. They wanted the benefits of valuable contacts. Fancy titles, rites and sexual magic (which was performed in some lodges, mostly Rosicrucian) were mostly for entertainment, in order to get members and for explaining why the secrecy is needed. Almost all secret societies derived from Freemasonry, but they were not cults, they were tools that could be used for political purposes.

    The Thule Society was quasi-Theosophic split-off from Germanen Order, which was a romantic society studying runes and dreaming of the Aryan ancient homeland. Thule was not romantic, did not study runes, and had a political goal. Thule created DAP as a tool for gaining political power and Hitler reshaped DAP to NSDAP. Hitler rejected volkist people, that is, the old rune-studying Germanen Order members and those occult symbols, like the skull in the ring and the black sun, which there were, were a part of Himmler’s plan that it is good to have a religion for the SS.

    So, NSDAP was not esoteric and occult in nature, but it is correct to say that it was created by an esoteric secret society Thule. Thule was created by Sebottendorf, who had been initiated to Mizraim freemasonry and belonged to Theosophy. Here again, no need to think he was a real occultist. The goals of Masonry were political. Establishment of NSDAP with a program to push Jews out of Europe and to start a war in the East suit too well to Masonry that I cannot think it was a coincidence.

    Consider this about Hitler.
    - Army sends Hitler to DAP as a spy,the spy gets converted to the ideas of the target of spying.
    - Hitler is known as a strong antisemite, but in Wien his friends were mostly Jewish.
    - Hitler admires tall blond Aryans, though is not tall and blond, and wants pure Aryan ancestry, though he himself has unclear ancestry. Karl Haushofer’s wife is partially Jewish and a great friend with Rudolf Hess, and Hitler has a Jewish teacher of performance etc. Something does not fit.
    - DAP is created by a secret society whose founder had Masonic and Theosophic connections.
    - Germanen Order volkish ideas were thrown out, while was that not the original goal!
    - NSDAP believes in the Protocols, which look like a forgery by Theosophic circles to create antisemitism to push the Jews to Palestine
    - NSDAP adopts the Zionistic and Masonic plan of pushing Jews out of Europe, and initially to Palestine.
    Everything fits perfectly if we assume that Sebottendorf splitted Thule from Germanen Order with the explicit purpose of advancing the Masonic Palestine plan. Not an esoteric and occult cult in the normal sense, but the whole idea is messianic. There is no contradiction in the fact that Hitler put Sebottendorf to a concentration camp, did not belong to Thule and did not read Blavatsky’s Secret Doctrine. Hitler was sent by the army to shape DAP to a party for the new war (with many Masonic goals, which were reached.)

    I answer also to a comment posed to me earlier: did American Freemasons start the WWII? Certainly some American Freemasons were for the war, but I think that American Freemasonry was subservant to another secret society, maybe the loose group of bankers. I am not sure how B’nai B’rith and Freemasonry relate on the highest levels, but Zionism was in the B’nai B’rith program since Jacob Schiff had oriented them to that goal. I still do not think Freemasons as an organization could any more initiate any large scale plan in the time of WWII, but there was the higher level above them.

    • Disagree: L.K
  420. utu says:
    @j2

    Very interesting.

  421. @SolontoCroesus

    You are a thoughtful person. How about putting the divided (or multiple) – why only dual – loyalties jibes into context? What were the loyalties of Roman citizens in the ancient world? Weren’t the royals who raised money to take Jerusalem or to take their claimed dodgy inheritances in Britain or France – or anywhere – perfectly natural in their divided loyalties? An old politician pointed out to me recently that he had more than one identity: Catholic, Liberal, Western Australian, Australian, family member for example. Can you ever assert a reliable principle to be observed without having to insert a big dose of your values and prejudices?

    Obviously a US Ambassador to Israel who blindly advocated for Israel in amount of subsidy from US taxpayers or shoring up of Israel’s military position at the expense of putting American lives at risk should be regarded as in an impossible position from which he should retire even if he has persuaded himself, as many neocons undoubtedly have that US and Israeli interests nearly always coincide. (Of course another nice set of distinctions is invited there. How do neocons conceive of a nation’s interests? How should they? Is there a kind of Maslow hierarchy of needs for nations that they can appeal to regardless of the US citizens who need food stamps…?)

  422. @j2

    When very young it was suggested to me that I join the Masons as a career move for contacts but my impression was that it was not a high status or powerful organisation but one where some pretty unimportant people behaved away to gain some perceived status. The sort of people who joined for advancement seemed to me typically police and public servants who were told that the Catholics had the Knights of the Southern Cross to foster their advancement after the Christian Brothers had coached them through the low level entrance exams. The people like judges I assumed had joined in the 30s when they were desperate for any contacts which might lead to paying clients. As for the great and powerful,,, well why not join grandfather’s lodge at cousin Bertie’s suggestion when it cost little in time or money?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @j2
    , @Anon
  423. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Australia is a Catholic enough country that there would be considerable low-level “pushback” against Freemasonic influence and Anglo enough that the local Freemasons were not particularly subversive anyway.

  424. Wally says:
    @utu

    UTU’s link: http://www.lootedart.com, as pertaining to Germany, is fraudulent.

    But then since when did he ever go beyond mandated propaganda?

    German taskforce: only 5 of 1,500 artworks were ‘looted’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10328

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Seraphim
  425. Heros says:
    @j2

    “Certainly some American Freemasons were for the war, but I think that American Freemasonry was subservant to another secret society, maybe the loose group of bankers. I am not sure how B’nai B’rith and Freemasonry relate on the highest levels, but Zionism was in the B’nai B’rith program since Jacob Schiff had oriented them to that goal.”

    In England, and Germany, and all of Europe, the officer corps had historically always populated by nobility. After the American Revolution, there was supposedly no more nobility in the Army of the Republic.

    But guess what, the masons were on the march. My Grandfather, whose diamond studded freemason ring I possess, was an officer in the Army Air Corps from 1917-19. My father, whose freemason ring I also possess, was too young to be called up in WWII, but at the end of the war he was in the ROTC and the army was helping to pay for his college degree.

    When the Korean war started, my grandfather called my father into a meeting with a high ranking freemason general he knew well through politics and the craft. My father, recently married with two infants, was running the family ranch. Somehow he was convinced that it was better if he volunteered as an officer than if he waited to be called up. I have often wondered what would have made him leave his young family and his ranch for 3 years to go serve in a UN war.

    The answer is Freemasonry, he was given orders by the brotherhood.

    My assumption, based on my family history, is that all officers in the US military are masons, or some other secret societies. Just think how JFK was set up for the presidency and how John Kerry’s fake Swift Boat “heroism” mirrored the fake heroism of JFK. Kerry, like GWB is famously a member of Yale’s Skull and Bones.

    Now as to the exact heirarchy of power and control in the various secret societies I clearly am not allowed to know, and you, even after saying you know 32 degree freemasons, also are not allowed to know. It is secret.

    But please do not go around saying that the “masons didn’t start WWII” because “you knew some good masons”. It makes you sound like a jew, and that by all appearances that is what masonry is secretly about anyway.

    • Replies: @j2
    , @j2
  426. Wally says:
    @MikeP

    said:
    “I think the question is no longer whether the holocaust did or didn’t happen, but whether what happened sufficiently resembles the holocaust realists’ “holocaust” to justify the name.”

    To believe in the infantile ‘holocaust’ narrative you must want to believe, you must need to believe.
    The narrative is preposterous, absolutely scientifically impossible.

    Jews claim that ’6M Jews & 5M others’ were all killed in the same way.
    Jews claim that there are immense human remains from alleged gassing and shootings, in supposedly known locations, however there are no human remains.

    You can’t have 11,000,000 claimed murders without a vast amount of human remains. Think about it.

    - If there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’ as alleged, then why are there countless numbers of so called “survivor$”?

    - If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    See list of devastating Auschwitz take downs:: https://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=chose&t=11716&sf=msgonly

    Jewish ‘Survivors’ of Auschwitz-Birkenau / not what we’re told
    by John Wear, Inconvenient History, v. 10, n.2, 2018: http://inconvenienthistory.com/10/2/5482

    http://www.codoh.com

  427. j2 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You were born in the wrong century, had you been born between 1730 and 1850 you could have gained from Masonic contacts to the aristocracy and other important people and at that time they were the power behind revolutions. Today it is a dying organization with no power. All of these Masonic-associated secret societies (Rosicrucians, Theosophists etc.) are a thing of the past. A hobby for some, but most are old in those lodges. But if you still want to join something like what Freemasonry once was, I guess you can find some terrorist organization front which is doing welfare work, tries to spread it ideology, infiltrate key organizations and change the world. Such a cell with young people, the revolutionary Masons (Jacobins, Decabrists and so on) were rather young in those days. Al Quaeda maybe? You may make contacts with oil sheiks and who knows with whom else from that geographic area, the unknown superiors.

  428. Wally says:
    @Blake

    said:
    ““Indeed, a key component in Hitler’s persecution of the Jews before 1941 was the encouragement of Jewish emigration from Germany and settlement in the Jewish National Home in Palestine. This policy, in direct conflict with Arab national interests in Palestine and generally throughout the Middle East, was pursued by Hitler’s regime before and even during the early part of the war. ”

    And due to obvious war complications, Hitler decided that the ‘Jewish question’ would be decided after the war.

    [MORE]


    Schlegelberger Document

    “Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been postponed until after the war is over. That being so, the current discussions are of purely theoretical value, in Mr Reich Minister Lammers’ opinion. He will moreover take pains to ensure that, whatever else happens, no fundamental decisions are taken without his knowledge in consequence of a surprise briefing by any third party.”

    Document’s origins. Schlegelberger’s undated minute on Lammer’s reference to Hitler’s ruling is in German Federal Archives (BA) file R.22/52. It was sent to Staatssekretär Freisler and two other officials (bottom left).
    This document has been published in facsimile in David Irving’s books Hitler’s War, Goebbels. Mastermind of the Third Reich, and Nuremberg, the Last Battle. It was definitely dated March or April 1942. Lammers was in Berlin on April 26, 1942.
    See Scheel’s report on a talk between Lammers and Meissner after the final session that day (T175/139/7479 et seq.)

    In support of the Schlegelberger Document see the Luther Memorandum:

    http://www.codoh.com/library/document/154/

    Hitler, the ‘Final Solution,’ and the Luther Memorandum, A Response to Evans and Longerich
    excerpt:
    “On the occasion of a reception by the Reich Foreign Minister on 26 November 1941 the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Popoff touched on the problem of according like treatment to the Jews of European nationalities and pointed out the difficulties that the Bulgarians had in the application of their Jewish laws to Jews of foreign nationality.”

    “The Reich Foreign Minister answered that he thought this question brought by Mr. Popoff not uninteresting. Even now he could say one thing to him, that at the end of the war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much.”

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  429. j2 says:
    @Heros

    “But please do not go around saying that the “masons didn’t start WWII” because “you knew some good masons”. It makes you sound like a jew, and that by all appearances that is what masonry is secretly about anyway.”

    I also have inherited jewelry with Masonic symbols, but I am neither a Mason, nor a Jew. I think technically Hitler started WWII by attacking Poland, but in the same way one can say that Masons and bankers did not start WWI as Gavrilo Princip started it, yet I say that Masons started WWI. In the USA Masons had much power, probably they still have. But what I mean is that in 187oies Mizraim and Memphis become inactive, in 1890ies some high Masons tried to establish what is sometimes called the Synarchy (a word connected with Martinists, another Masonic society), a power against Communists, who were not Masons though used similar methods and though they historically derive from leftist Masons and Carbonaries. Masonic associated organizations, like the Malta Knights were smuggling Nazis to the USA, in Italy P2 and Gladio were Masonic. In Russia Masons handed the power to Bolsheviks. Mazzini was Mason, so all New Europe was Masonic to some extent. All this is true, but the newer events look like an anti-Communistic alliance of the CIA, the Vatican, some Masonic organizations and the Mafia, not like a true Masonic plot like earlier.

    Still I have not found clear evidence that Freemasons as an organization started the Second World War. The reason is not that I have known some Masons and whether they were good or bad, they were far from having power to start any world wars. The reason is that Masonry was apparently not used at least in a visible way. Maybe it was used, maybe Hitler won in the beginning because he was helped, but I know no concrete evidence for it. There is some evidence for the start of WWI.

    As for if Freemasonry is secretly about Jews, I think it is. Builders of the temple of Solomon. There is a legend that the Brotherhood was started when Judah Leon Templo presented the plans of Solomon’s temple to Charles II of England, but the connection is not proven.

    If you have some evidence or suggestive arguments showing that Freemasons as an organization had a major role in starting the WWII, I will reconsider. So far I think they worked indirectly, through other secret societies, such as Thule, and skipped Masons, who were too obvious suspects. But I am not an expert on this topic.

    • Replies: @Heros
  430. j2 says:
    @Heros

    “Now as to the exact heirarchy of power and control in the various secret societies I clearly am not allowed to know, and you, even after saying you know 32 degree freemasons, also are not allowed to know. It is secret.”

    Just in case you are a Brother, feel relieved: no Mason has ever told me any secrets of the Brotherhood, or much anything interesting. My information is from open but in my evaluation quite reliable sources and all possibly incorrect conclusions are only mine. Some, mainly historical, information on Masons can be found fairly easily, some I have guessed from small hints like cryptic insider comments. It seems to me that on the highest level there was no official hierarchy, it worked by the same people in top positions in many organizations. Secrets can often be guessed, the fundamental problem in cryptography. Additionally, some Masons inserted hints to Masons to their writings.

  431. @Anon

    weak.

    the uniforms of the 2 visible guards/killers are those of Ukrainian Hilfspolizei.

    and, as I look over that expanse of murdered women, girls, children…I see one (1) blond:

    they’re Jewesses.

    as of August-September 1942, Hitler was planning to move his forward HQ from Rastenburg in East Prussia to Vinnitsa…so the SS/Police in that area were, for security reasons, particularly keen
    on liquidating all the local Jews and Red partisans.

    • Replies: @Wally
  432. Anon[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    There used to be a slogan, join the Masons and you’ll never be out of work.

    Maybe not the greatest job in the world, but a decent middle class job The American railroads are a good example, for a long time they were all Masonic strongholds

    But then along came affirmative action aka the no Whites need apply laws.

    Almost all American Presidents but Kennedy were masons I think.

  433. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Beefcake, you better stick with the Denialist Swarm:

    you are risking Excommunication.

    Wally does not tolerate Deviationists.

    and his thread-policing is awesome.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @L.K
  434. Heros says:
    @j2

    “I think technically Hitler started WWII by attacking Poland”

    I strongly disagree, for one Judea declared war on Germany in 1933. But I would not try to argue that it just the masons that caused this. They were merely tools.

    “If you have some evidence or suggestive arguments showing that Freemasons as an organization had a major role in starting the WWII, I will reconsider. “

    Since you are unwilling to recognize circumstantial evidence such as all the masons surrounding Roosevelt or involved in OSS, then I have to confess that I have no damning evidence.

    As far as WWI goes, I find this fascinating:

    Arch Duke Ferdinand was assassinated at 11:00 am. Guess what the license number on the Archduke’s car was:

    Thats right 111 118.

    WWI ended at 11:00 am, on November 11, 1918. 11 11 11 18. It started when the car turned around at 10:45 in order to reach the assassination point at 11:00 am.

    Is it the freemasons who keep playing these games on the masses? Is it the jews? Both! I can’t prove it, but no one else can provide any kind of explanation.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  435. Wally says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    IOW, I have slapped you silly, beat you on everything you have thrown up, and now that is all that you have to say. LOL

    Recommended to everyone, don’t bother Haxo Angmark, you’ll never be able to keep up:

    Another Eichmann Movie and the reality and fundamental inexplicability of anti-Semitic eliminationism.”

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11921

    http://www.codoh.com