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The Alleged Wuhan Lab-Leak and Its Scientific Skeptics

During most of the last year theories regarding the origins of Covid, whether conspiratorial or otherwise, had disappeared from the public debate, pushed aside by the nationwide Black Lives Matter protests and the final stages of the heated presidential campaign.

In early January, prominent liberal author and public intellectual Nicholson Baker had tried to revive the issue with a 12,000 word cover story in New York magazine, only to see his Covid lab-leak theory swamped and forgotten when the DC Capitol was stormed by a mob of outraged Trumpists two days later.

  • The Lab-Leak Hypothesis
    For decades, scientists have been hot-wiring viruses in hopes of preventing a pandemic, not causing one. But what if …?
    Nicholson Baker • New York Magazine • January 4, 2021 • 12,000 Words

But then on May 2nd, a revolution occurred after former New York Times science journalist and editor Nicholas Wade published a lengthy article on Medium. His careful 11,000 word analysis mustered the strong evidence that the virus was the artificial product of a human lab, suggesting that it had probably leaked out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, China’s most advanced viral research facility. That laboratory was known to have been working with those types of coronaviruses and was located in Wuhan, the site of the initial outbreak, raising all sorts of obvious suspicions.

  • The Origin of Covid
    Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?
    Nicholas Wade • Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists • May 5, 2021 • 11,000 Words

The floodgates soon opened and over the next few weeks far more was written on that subject than had been produced during the previous twelve months combined. In just one example, Donald G. McNeil, Jr., the forty-five year veteran of the Times who had spearheaded his paper’s Covid coverage, published a striking mea culpa and embraced the lab-leak hypothesis, admitting that he and other Timesmen had previously dismissed the idea as “far right” lunacy, closely associated with “Pizzagate, the Plandemic, Kung Flu, Q-Anon, Stop the Steal, and the January 6 Capitol invasion.”

McNeil had already retired from the Times the previous December after an unrelated controversy, but others at his former newspaper had also experienced a similar change of heart. For more than a year, the editors had been fiercely critical of the lab-leak theory, heavily promoted by Donald Trump and his allies, but with Trump now safely gone, their perspective changed.

In late June, Zeynep Tufekci, one of their opinion columnists, published a 5,500 word article harshly criticizing China and arguing that the global epidemic had probably been the consequence of a Chinese lab-leak. Prof. Tufekci’s field of study was sociology rather than the biological sciences and her expertise lay in social media, but the appearance of her long piece surely reflected a seismic shift in the views of her top editors.

A far longer exposition of this emerging American media consensus had appeared at the beginning of that same month in Vanity Fair. The 12,000 word article strongly favored the lab-leak theory and focused upon the bureaucratic infighting regarding that issue within the national security apparatus of the Trump Administration. Based upon months of investigative reporting and numerous interviews, the piece seemed to heavily rely upon anonymous Trump intelligence sources, while generally taking our government claims at face value.

Moreover, although the suggestion was presented in a defensive, insinuating manner, the long article also raised serious suspicions that Covid had been developed as a Chinese bioweapon, with that particular word appearing nine times in the text. Millions had already died around the world, including many hundreds of thousands of Americans, so some might find it troubling that such inflammatory accusations had appeared in one of America’s most prestigious general interest magazines, especially considering the near-total lack of any supporting evidence. This article demonstrated the drastic shift in elite media sentiment, with theories previously confined to the extreme anti-China ideological fringe now occupying the center of American journalism.

This situation carried disturbing echoes of how those same mainstream media organs had played a similar role twenty years ago in fostering the hoax of Saddam’s WMD and promoting our disastrous Iraq War. Indeed, I found it rather ironic that one of the main Trump Administration Covid experts quoted in that article and others was David Feith, whose father Douglas Feith had been one of the leading Neocons involved in that notorious Bush Administration intelligence fraud. Moreover, the lead author of the front-page Wall Street Journal story that helped to revive the lab-leak theory in late May was Michael R. Gordon, who had previously shared a byline with Judith Miller on most of the fraudulent Iraqi WMD stories that had propelled us into war. And in early 2020, former Mossad agent Dany Shoham had been one of the earliest figures suggesting that Covid was a Chinese bioweapon leaked from the Wuhan lab, with few remembering that in 2001 he had falsely fingered Saddam’s regime as the source of the Anthrax mailings. It almost seemed that members of the old Iraqi WMD cast were reassembling for a revival.

A useful roundup of this sudden wave of supportive lab-leak coverage came in a 4,500 word article published by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR), a left-leaning watchdog organization. The article documented this rapid media shift by citing examples from the Washington Post, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, and ABC News, and strongly pushed back against it, continuing to argue for a natural origin of the virus.

Unfortunately, although this piece was quite useful as a compendium of media links, the analysis provided was far from persuasive. Author Joshua Cho was described as a recent college graduate and former FAIR intern, presumably placing him in his early 20s, so I was hardly surprised to notice quite a number of factual and logical errors in his presentation. Most egregiously, he devoted half his article to attacking Wade, whom he ignorantly and insultingly denounced as a notorious promoter of “pseudo-science” and he seemed rather dismayed that prominent left-liberal journalists such as Thomas Frank and Jonathan Cook had taken Wade’s views so seriously. Perhaps this rather self-important former intern should have recognized that they probably knew some things that he did not, and might consider that Wade had become the science editor at the New York Times almost a decade before Cho was even born.

However, others possessing far greater credibility and scientific expertise have also recently challenged the lab-leak hypothesis on much stronger grounds. The day before Cho’s article appeared, Bloomberg had run a long interview with Danielle Anderson, an experienced Australian virologist who had been the only Westerner working at the Wuhan lab during the period in question. By her account, the description of the lab and its operations provided by the Western media had been totally at odds with what she had seen working there, and the likelihood of a virus leak seemed nil.

Based upon a few sentences in American government cables, our media has repeatedly alleged that the operating standards of the Wuhan lab were poor, but Anderson’s own experience had been entirely different, with the safety protocols so impressive that she later suggested they be adopted at her own research organization. For many months, former members of the Trump Administration had been promoting some questionably-sourced “third party” intelligence claiming that three lab workers became seriously ill in November 2019 with Covid-like symptoms, but Dr. Anderson could recall no such cases, and believed that she would have heard about them. She had generally enjoyed a very friendly and open relationship with her Chinese colleagues, with scientific gossip regularly being shared back and forth. Under these circumstances, she felt certain that if a suspected lab-leak had occurred, she would have heard about it, but there had never been a hint of any such incident.

Furthermore, the creation of a dangerous virus such as Covid would have required many layers of official authorization by lab administrators, and she doubted that a decision of such importance could have been taken without word getting around. While she admitted that it was theoretically possible for some rogue Chinese lab researcher to have secretly undertaken such a project and bioengineered the virus, then accidentally infected himself or others, she rated the likelihood as “exceedingly slim.”

So based upon her personal experience at the Wuhan lab, she thought it very unlikely that the Covid virus was developed there and equally unlikely that any lab-leak had ever occurred. For these reasons, she still leaned towards a natural source for the viral outbreak.

Similar conclusions had been made in an early June interview with Christian Drosten, a German virologist ranked as one of the world’s leading experts on both SARS and Covid. Although the discussion appeared in a small German-language publication and has received minimal attention, the magic of Google Translate has made this important material available to a worldwide audience:

Although Dr. Drosten fully accepted a natural origin for the virus, speculating that the undiscovered intermediate host might be found somewhere in China’s huge fur-farming industry, he also gave his opinion on the possibility of a bioengineered virus or a lab-leak. In particular, he broached the idea that the virus was created and released as a bioweapon, but deliberately shied away from discussing it:

There are actually two laboratory theses. One would be malice that someone has intentionally constructed such a virus. The other would be the research accident, that in spite of good intentions and curiosity an experiment went wrong. The malicious thing, to be honest: you have to talk to the secret service about it. As a scientist, I cannot judge that.

He went on to say that the structure of the virus made it very unlikely that it would have been produced as the result of an innocent scientific research project, or that it came from the Wuhan lab and was accidentally released:

This idea of ​​a research accident is extremely unlikely for me because it would be far too cumbersome. The idea of ​​malicious use by some secret service laboratory somewhere: If anything, something like that would probably not come from the Wuhan Virology Institute. This is a reputable academic institute.

Although their reasons differ, the combined testimony of virologists Anderson and Drosten raises considerable doubts about the accidental Wuhan lab-leak scenario that now increasingly represents the conventional wisdom of the American mainstream media. Both experts are very skeptical that Covid could have been the product of innocent scientific research, and they also think it quite unlikely that the Wuhan lab either created or accidentally released it. Thus, although they both still prefer the natural virus theory, they seem to regard the likely alternative as an illegal or malicious project, seemingly implying the creation and deliberate release of a deadly bioweapon. But under such a scenario, the initial outbreak in Wuhan, one of China’s largest cities and a key transport hub, would obviously tend to exculpate that country, while logically pointing the finger of blame in an entirely different direction.

It is noteworthy that we have one of the world’s leading scientific authorities on Covid gingerly raising the possibility that it was a non-Chinese bioweapon, and doing so in a small-circulation German-language publication. Yet this very brief and glancing speculation seems to be the only time I have encountered this obvious idea anywhere in the 100,000 or more words of mainstream articles I have read on the possible origins of Covid during the last year or more. Surely many other journalists and scientists must have considered such a possibility, yet virtually none of them had allowed such an idea to appear in print. How can we best understand this complete intellectual embargo?

I think part of the explanation may be found in an interesting exchange late last year on entirely different matters between prominent liberal journalists Matt Taibbi and Chris Hedges, formerly of Rolling Stone and the New York Times respectively. As they described it, working journalists greatly rely upon social media, especially if they are not directly affiliated with a major publication. And such individuals recognized that a few wrongly-chosen words can provoke a swarming Twitter lynch-mob, possibly leading to the deadly fate of deplatforming. So writers and their employers must necessarily exercise a great deal of self-censorship, fearful of the disastrous consequences of a careless sentence.

Given this reality, the sudden, striking collapse of the natural virus propaganda-bubble that had so completely dominated the mainstream media for more than a year becomes much less surprising. Probably a considerable number of individuals had had their doubts all along, but fearful of being purged, they had kept silent. However, once Wade’s article appeared and began attracting some favorable discussion on social media, they gradually lost their fears and jumped on board, soon demonstrating that those views had been far more widespread than anyone realized.

The Plausible Deniability of Bioweapons and Their Effectiveness in Economic Warfare

There may or may not exist similar hidden reservoirs of support for the possibility that Covid was a non-Chinese bioweapon, but if so these have remained remarkably well concealed.

Over the last year I have produced a long series of articles explicitly making the case that the Covid virus was released in a deliberate biowarfare attack against China (and Iran). Taken together, these pieces have been viewed some 250,000 times. Yet with a few rare exceptions, the material has been considered far too radioactive to have been acknowledged anywhere in the alternative media, let alone by its mainstream counterpart. The following are the most substantial elements of the series:

These articles have established our publication as one of the very few venues open to such controversial ideas. As a consequence, we recently received and published a submission by an emeritus professor in Europe with a background in politics and security issues, who wrote under the pen-name “Andreas Canetti.” Although somewhat unwieldy and unpolished, his text ran 26,000 words with over 280 footnotes and provided an enormous wealth of information and references, much of it analyzing and explicating the biowarfare hypothesis. While I would not necessarily endorse some of the arguments made, the article served as a very useful source of information on many aspects of the topic.

The lengthy Vanity Fair article had revealed that some Trump Administration national security officials were strongly opposed to challenging the natural virus theory, fearing that talk of an artificial origin would “open a can of worms,” with that phrase so significant that it was even used as one of the main section headings. But the possible nature of those concerns is much better understood after we absorb some of the important material revealed in the Canetti article.

For example, Canetti quotes long passages by a noted military expert on the particular effectiveness of biological warfare in crippling the economy of an international adversary but doing so in a manner that retains the plausible deniability that any attack had even occurred:

[T]he twenty-first century will be a century of economic warfare… [The] emergence of economic competition…raises the possibility of a new form of warfare. This includes the development and use of biological warfare (BW) against economic targets. Using BW to attack livestock, crops, or ecosystems offers an adversary the means to wage a potentially subtle yet devastating form of warfare, one which would impact the political, social, and economic sectors of a society and potentially of national survival itself…[Bacteria and viruses] that incapacitate or kill humans, animals, or plants have an unsettling value in waging economic warfare….[U]sing BW may inflict a grave blow to that nation’s economy or society and possibly result in some political impact. History has recorded the chaos and instability created by such natural catastrophes as famines and epidemics. Using BW in this fashion would have applications to waging low-intensity warfare with strategic outcomes.

[A bioweapon] is the only weapon of mass destruction which has utility across the spectrum of conflict. Using biological weapons under the cover of an endemic or natural disease occurrence provides an attacker the potential for plausible denial. In this context, [bioweapons] offer greater possibilities for use than do nuclear weapons… [Bioweapons] can be employed in noncombat settings under the guise of natural events, during operations other than war, or can be used in open combat scenarios against all biological systems – man, animal, or plant. Deliberate dissemination of BW agents may be afforded possible denial by naturally occurring diseases and events… Biological warfare’s potential to create significant economic loss and subsequent political instability with plausible denial exceeds any other known weapon.

These words were written in 1998 by Robert P. Kadlec, who went on to become a top biowarfare advisor in the George W. Bush Administration, and then most recently returned to government in 2017 as an Assistant Secretary under Trump. His cogent analysis brought to mind some disturbing facts I had noted in my original April 2020 article:

[D]uring the previous two years, the Chinese economy had already suffered serious blows from other mysterious new diseases, although these had targeted farm animals rather than people. During 2018 a new Avian Flu virus had swept the country, eliminating large portions of China’s poultry industry, and during 2019 the Swine Flu viral epidemic had devastated China’s pig farms, destroying 40% of the nation’s primary domestic source of meat, with widespread claims that the latter disease was being spread by mysterious small drones…So for three years in a row, China had been severely impacted by strange new viral diseases, though only the most recent had been deadly to humans. This evidence was merely circumstantial, but the pattern seemed highly suspicious.

Furthermore, the particular features of Covid itself seem to fall into this same category. Early last year, we published the perspective of a retired forty-year veteran of American biodefense, who focused on the unusual epidemiological characteristics of the virus, which was extremely contagious but had a low fatality rate of 1% or less. As I summarized his analysis:

One important point he made was that high lethality was often counter-productive in a bioweapon since debilitating or hospitalizing large numbers of individuals may impose far greater economic costs on a country than a biological agent which simply inflicts an equal number of deaths. In his words “a high communicability, low lethality disease is perfect for ruining an economy,” suggesting that the apparent characteristics of the coronavirus were close to optimal in this regard.

For decades, America has maintained the world’s most extensive biowarfare program, having absorbed much of the previous Soviet capacity after the collapse of the USSR. We now operate a global network of biolabs in 25 countries, many of them bordering either China or Russia.

US biolabs in 25 countries around Russia and China and in Africa (from Dilyana Gaytandzhieva)
US biolabs in 25 countries around Russia and China and in Africa (from Dilyana Gaytandzhieva)

A great deal of this information was summarized in a January 2020 article by investigative journalist Whitney Webb, which we published after her regular outlet at the time had balked at releasing it:

Finally, the website of Dilyana Gaytandzhieva, a former Bulgarian journalist, contains a long article providing a wealth of links and information on America’s biowarfare efforts, representing a very useful resource for those interested in further investigating this important topic:

From the earliest days of the administration, leading Trump officials had regarded China as America’s most formidable geopolitical adversary, and orchestrated a policy of confrontation. Then from January to August 2019, Kadlec’s department ran the “Crimson Contagion” simulation exercise, involving the hypothetical outbreak of a dangerous respiratory viral disease in China, which eventually spreads into the United States, with the participants focusing on the necessary measures to control it in this country. As one of America’s foremost biowarfare experts, Kadlec had emphasized the unique effectiveness of bioweapons as far back as the late 1990s and we must commend him for his considerable prescience in having organized a major viral epidemic exercise in 2019 that was so remarkably similar to what actually began in the real world just a few months later.

With leading Trump officials greatly enamored of biowarfare, fiercely hostile to China, and running large-scale 2019 simulations on the consequences of a mysterious viral outbreak in that country, it seems entirely unreasonable to completely disregard the possibility that such extremely reckless plans may have been privately discussed and eventually implemented, though probably without presidential authorization.

The Long-Forgotten Early Iranian Outbreak

China ranks as our most formidable geopolitical rival, and when it was suddenly struck by a mysterious viral plague at the height of our international tensions, the implications were entirely ignored by our timorous media. But they have also completely ignored an even stranger coincidence, as I had noted in my original April 2020 article:

As the coronavirus gradually began to spread beyond China’s own borders, another development occurred that greatly multiplied my suspicions. Most of these early cases had occurred exactly where one might expect, among the East Asian countries bordering China. But by late February Iran had become the second epicenter of the global outbreak. Even more surprisingly, its political elites had been especially hard-hit, with a full 10% of the entire Iranian parliament soon infected and at least a dozen of its officials and politicians dying of the disease, including some who were quite senior. Indeed, Neocon activists on Twitter began gleefully noting that their hatred Iranian enemies were now dropping like flies.

Let us consider the implications of these facts. Across the entire world the only political elites that have yet suffered any significant human losses have been those of Iran, and they died at a very early stage, before significant outbreaks had even occurred almost anywhere else in the world outside China. Thus, we have America assassinating Iran’s top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iranian ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?

That initial Iranian outbreak was also strangely centered on the Holy City of Qom, the home of that country’s elite political and religious leadership rather than in the far larger metropolis of Tehran. Whether Covid appeared in Wuhan as a natural virus or was released due to an accidental lab-leak, Wuhan is some 5,500 kilometers from Qom, so the latter city would hardly seem the most likely location for the next major appearance of the virus.

By March additional major Covid outbreaks had also occurred in Northern Italy and soon afterwards Spain, but the circumstances were quite different. According to Wikipedia, some 300,000 Chinese live and work in that Italian region while another 150,000 Chinese reside in Spain, and many of these individuals had surely returned from annual Lunar New Year trips to their Chinese homeland, perhaps bringing the virus back with them. By contrast, Iran’s total Chinese population is one of the smallest in the world, numbering just 5,000-9,000, and overwhelmingly concentrated in Tehran rather than Qom.

China has very extensive trading and business links throughout the world, with perhaps a million Chinese residing in Africa and several million Chinese immigrants in the US and Canada, many of whom retain close personal ties to their homeland. So if an international panel of expert epidemiologists had been given the hypothetical case of a new epidemic in Wuhan, China and asked to predict the next city to which the disease would spread, I suspect that Qom in Iran would have been close to the bottom of their list. But after our early January assassination of Gen. Qasem Soleimini and Iran’s retaliatory cruise missile strikes against our Middle Eastern bases, any panel of military strategists would surely have ranked Iran’s leadership near the absolute top of American targets.

Together with its close Israeli ally, the U.S. has long maintained an effective network of agents and operatives in Iran, who have successfully carried out numerous major sabotage operations and high-level assassinations. Compared to such difficult attacks on heavily-guarded targets, the quiet release of an invisible and untraceable but highly contagious virus in some gathering of political elites would have been an extremely easy operation, especially since the results would have only become apparent weeks later as the victims fell ill and the disease began to spread.

The circumstantial evidence suggesting that America (or its Israeli partner) had deployed Covid against Iran’s leadership class in Qom seemed so strong, I found it puzzling that the Iranians themselves had apparently not drawn those same conclusions and publicly denounced what had occurred. They might not have had any proof, but such a biowarfare attack would been an unprecedented violation of important international conventions, and surely such plausible allegations would have generated worldwide headlines and elicited a considerable amount of sympathy. But then a few months ago, I was very much surprised to discover that the Iranians had actually done exactly that.

In February 2021, a social media research group affiliated with the establishmentarian Atlantic Council released a massive 17,000 word, 54 page report documenting and denouncing the wide range of supposedly false or unsubstantiated “conspiracy theories” regarding the Covid epidemic, and devoted several pages to presenting what they considered widespread Iranian “falsehoods,” but which I viewed in an entirely different light. By early March 2020, the Iranian general overseeing his country’s biowarfare defense had already begun suggesting that Covid was a Western biological attack against his country and China, and a couple of days later the semiofficial Iranian news agency FARS quoted Iran’s top Revolutionary Guards military commander as declaring:

Today, the country is engaged in a biological battle. We will prevail in the fight against this virus, which might be the product of an American biological [attack], which first spread in China and then to the rest of the world…America should know that if it has done so, it will return to itself.

Soon afterward, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei took the same public position, while populist former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad became especially vocal on Twitter for several months, even directing his formal accusations to UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. Just a single one of his numerous Tweets drew many thousands of Retweets and Likes.

Iranian radio and television and its international news service repeatedly carried these stories, backed by supportive interviews with a top political aide to Malaysia’s former prime minister. But America’s overwhelming domination over the English-language global media ensured that this major international controversy never came to my attention at the time it occurred.

The blockade preventing these Iranian charges from reaching the English-speaking world was further facilitated by American control over the basic infrastructure of the Internet. Just one month earlier, Iran’s PressTV channel for Britain had been deleted by YouTube, following the earlier removal of its main global channel. Most recently, the American government took the unprecedented action of seizing PressTV‘s Internet domain, completely eliminating all access to that website.

Wikipedia is also under hostile control, so we should hardly be surprised that ubiquitous source of worldwide information rather implausibly suggests that a single Iranian businessman returning from China was the cause of the Qom outbreak.

Manipulating Scientists into Deflecting the Iranian Accusations

Although in recent decades America seems to have fallen behind various other countries in industrial production, governing competence, and some important aspects of military technology, the effectiveness of our propaganda organs remains undiminished. As I considered the means by which our Neocon-dominated national-security-media complex had so effortlessly deflected those seemingly formidable Iranian accusations, an apparent strategy became clear. As I explained in my April 2020 article:

Using alternative media to immediately promote theories that the coronavirus outbreak was the result of a leak from a Chinese biowarfare lab was a natural means of preempting any later Chinese accusations along similar lines, thereby allowing America to win the international propaganda war before China had even begun to fight….I discovered that the fringes of the Internet were awash with claims that the disease was caused by a Chinese bioweapon accidentally released from that same Wuhan laboratory, with former Trump advisor Steve Bannon and ZeroHedge, a popular right-wing conspiracy-website, playing leading roles in advancing the theory. Indeed, the stories became so widespread in those ideological circles that Sen. Tom Cotton, a leading Republican Neocon, began promoting them on Twitter and FoxNews, thereby provoking an article in the NYT on those “fringe conspiracy theories.”

As the Times article indicated, these early claims that Covid might be a leaked Chinese bioweapon were soon heavily amplified by Neocon-oriented international news outlets such as the Washington Times and Alex Jones’s popular InfoWars network. Fearful of the possible international consequences of such explosive charges, well-intentioned scientists mobilized behind the defense that the virus was entirely natural, whether or not they actually believed the evidence was as strong as they claimed. Public statements to this effect appeared in a January 29th Washington Post article and a couple of weeks later the New York Times article debunking Sen. Cotton’s charges.

This may also be the most likely explanation for the high-profile declaration published in the Lancet on February 19, 2020 by a group of 27 virologists and other noted scientists, condemning speculation about an artificial virus as an untenable “conspiracy theory,” and the equally high-profile piece the following month in Nature Medicine arguing for a natural Covid origin. These early statements in prestigious journals completely framed the media discourse for more than a year, and as a consequence this supposed scientific consensus ensured that any Iranian accusations of a biowarfare attack were automatically dismissed as absurd and ridiculous.

I think that this reconstruction of events is supported by the remarkably contradictory public positions taken by Prof. Richard H. Ebright, a highly-reputable Rutgers molecular biologist and biosafety expert, who has recently established himself as one of the most widely cited scientific backers of the Wuhan lab-leak theory.

In January, Nicholson Baker had quoted Ebright as saying that for years he had been concerned about the Wuhan lab and the work being done there to create “chimeric” SARS-related bat coronaviruses “with enhanced human infectivity.” In an email, the scientist further declared that “In this context, the news of a novel coronavirus in Wuhan ***screamed*** lab release.”

Soon afterwards, Ebright became one of the prominent signatories of the March Open Letter sharply criticizing the WHO report and calling for a renewed international investigation of the Wuhan lab, outlining his views in a lengthy Independent Science News interview. According to the Vanity Fair article, when the earliest reports of the Covid outbreak appeared, his suspicions that an artificial virus had leaked from the Wuhan lab were immediate, emerging within “a nanosecond or a picosecond.” Ebright’s statements also constituted a centerpiece of Wade’s seminal article:

It is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice. It is also clear that, depending on the constant genomic contexts chosen for analysis, this work could have produced SARS-CoV-2 or a proximal progenitor of SARS-CoV-2…It is clear that some or all of this work was being performed using a biosafety standard … that would pose an unacceptably high risk of infection of laboratory staff. It also is clear that this work never should have been funded and never should have been performed.

Yet strangely enough, during the early months of the epidemic, Ebright had seemingly taken an entirely contrary public position. In his January 29, 2020 interview with the Washington Post, he had declared: “Based on the virus genome and properties there is no indication whatsoever that it was an engineered virus.” And according to a Post story a couple of weeks later, he also added “The possibility that this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded.”

Ebright’s sweeping statements had been intended to rebut the widespread allegations that Covid was a Chinese bioweapon that had accidentally been leaked, but they soon proved extremely helpful to our own government-sponsored RFE/RL, which denounced the Iranian biowarfare accusation as “an unfounded claim” backed by “no evidence,” and quoted Ebright’s blanket assertion as an effective rebuttal. The apparent scientific consensus that the virus was natural ensured that any further Iranian accusations were summarily rejected as completely irrational by the international media, forcing Tehran to soon abandon the effort as counter-productive.

Whether or not my analysis of Ebright’s motive is correct, there is the undeniable reality that the loudest early scientific voice favoring Covid as natural has become the loudest voice arguing that it came from a lab, a belief he now claims to have held from the very beginning. No one in the media seems to have commented upon or perhaps even noticed this radical reversal.

I cannot say if this political/media strategy was actually planned, but it proved very effective, and the fierce, early attacks on China for having released Covid achieved a double result. The accusations successfully demonized that country with much of the American and world public, so that according to a poll taken at the end of April, a remarkable 45% of Americans believed that the deadly virus had “probably” or “definitely” originated in a Chinese laboratory, with 74% of Republicans holding that opinion. But the charges also provoked a defensive response by reputable scientific authorities, who gravitated towards the doubtful natural virus theory as their best defense, and this proved extremely useful in defeating the Iranian accusations when they soon came. Moreover, the resulting natural virus consensus remained confined to the mainstream media, a source of information widely distrusted by populist conservatives, most of whom may have remained stubbornly convinced that Covid had indeed come from the Wuhan lab and had probably been a Chinese bioweapon.

By the beginning of 2021, the extremely suspicious aspects of the early Iranian outbreak had long since been forgotten and Iran’s biowarfare accusations abandoned, so there was little cost in allowing the resurrection of the theory that Covid was the artificial product of a lab. This cleared the way for a new media consensus along those lines.

Trying to Disguise a Smoking Gun

The extremely suspicious nature of the very early Covid outbreak in Qom points the finger of blame in an obvious direction, as Iran’s top leadership had publicly declared at the time. But evidence related to Wuhan itself is even more compelling, and the probable timeline of the first appearance of Covid constitutes a crucial element of that story.

Throughout 2020, teams of investigative journalists from the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Associated Press, sometimes assisted by leaked Chinese documents, had firmly established that China’s central government was unaware of the growing viral epidemic until the end of December, and then immediately provided the information to the World Health Organization and other international authorities. That same year a very thorough analysis by Philippe Lemoine in Quillette had also strongly argued that the local Wuhan officials only discovered the viral outbreak a couple of days earlier.

The exact date of Wuhan’s Patient Zero is much more difficult to determine, but can probably be roughly estimated. Years of censorship and ideological curation have severely impaired the utility of Google as an objective search engine on controversial topics, but it remains invaluable as a guide to the established standard narrative. And if we Google a phrase like “first Wuhan Covid case,” a top result is the official summary of an academic paper published in Science on March 18, 2021 by a team of researchers from the University of California San Diego School of Medicine, with the first author being Dr. Jonathan Pekar.

Based upon the characteristics of the virus and employing a series of simulations using standard molecular clock techniques, the researchers concluded that the outbreak in Hubei province probably began no earlier than mid-October 2019, while regional newspaper reports suggest that Covid was already actively circulating by November 17, 2019. This allows us to effectively bracket the appearance of Patient Zero between mid-October and mid-November, with very early November being the most likely date. According to the paper’s estimate, there were probably no more than four infected individuals by mid-November and just nine by December 1, 2019, though obviously all these dates and totals are mere approximations. A rough timeline along these same lines had already been widely accepted by spring of last year, but a rigorous academic study has now placed it upon a much more solid footing.

However, when we combine certain other facts with these seemingly solid scientific conclusions, the implications are explosive, as I have repeatedly emphasized for more than a year:

But with the horrific consequences of our own later governmental inaction being obvious, elements within our intelligence agencies have sought to demonstrate that they were not the ones asleep at the switch. Earlier this month, an ABC News story cited four separate government sources to reveal that as far back as late November, a special medical intelligence unit within our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a report warning that an out-of-control disease epidemic was occurring in the Wuhan area of China, and widely distributed that document throughout the top ranks of our government, warning that steps should be taken to protect US forces based in Asia. After the story aired, a Pentagon spokesman officially denied the existence of that November report, while various other top level government and intelligence officials refused to comment. But a few days later, Israeli television mentioned that in November American intelligence had indeed shared such a report on the Wuhan disease outbreak with its NATO and Israeli allies, thus seeming to independently confirm the complete accuracy of the original ABC News story and its several government sources.

It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires.

According to these multiply-sourced mainstream media accounts, by “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency was already preparing a secret report warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. Yet at that point, probably no more than a couple of dozen individuals had been infected in that city of 11 million, with few of those yet having any serious symptoms. The implications are rather obvious.

Founding Slate Editor Michael Kinsley once famously quipped that a gaffe was when a politician inadvertently spoke some forbidden truth, and by failing to recognize the obvious implications of the date of the secret DIA report, the four government sources who revealed its existence and the Israeli source who independently confirmed that disclosure had constructed an enormous political bomb, which only the “see no evil” behavior of our timorous media has allowed to remain undetonated.

Because the nominal focus of the original ABC News report had been the incompetence of the Trump Administration in failing to heed the November warning of the looming epidemic, the story received enormous early discussion, being very widely Tweeted out and attracting over 1,700 comments. The lead author was Josh Margolin, the news network’s chief investigative reporter, whose excellent governmental and intelligence sources greatly strengthened its credibility and impact. Even the much less prominent Israeli story confirming the secret report’s international distribution attracted more than 50 comments.

But there are grave implications to a secret American government report that described a potentially “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan that has not yet actually occurred, and once these were recognized, the entire episode was quickly flushed down the media memory hole and almost never mentioned again, even by alternative journalists.

One particularly suspicious aspect of the DIA report was that it had allegedly been “the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images.” Yet at the time it was prepared—“the second week” of November—we now believe that no more than a handful of Chinese had yet become infected by Covid in that city, hardly the sort of situation that would have been apparent on satellite reconnaissance photos.

The Pentagon’s first line of defense was simply to deny that the report had ever existed, though this became more difficult after the Israelis confirmed that both they and NATO had received copies at the time. But given the enormous stakes involved, additional efforts to obfuscate the apparent smoking gun seem to have been quickly undertaken.

Two months after he had published his inadvertent bombshell, Margolin co-authored another article almost twice as long, which heavily promoted an unpublished Harvard Medical School study allegedly replicating those DIA findings. The authors claimed to have used satellite images and electronic Internet data to demonstrate that the virus outbreak had already produced a major health crisis in Wuhan by September or October, with local hospitals supposedly already heavily burdened by Covid patients, months earlier than previously believed. Such findings were obviously intended to explain how the DIA had come to similar conclusions in November, and the second sentence of the news story stated that the research study was performed “[u]sing techniques similar to those employed by intelligence agencies,” while explicit references to the DIA report also appeared later in the text.

Dr. John Brownstein, the lead author of the study, served as an ABC News contributor, and he was described as having spent more than a month on the project, suggesting that it had begun just days after Israeli television confirmed the existence of the officially-denied secret DIA report. Heavy use was made of satellite-imaging and RS Metrics, a leading geospatial analysis firm, was recruited to evaluate the data. The authors claimed to have received no outside funding, but surely such services hardly came cheap, and the project seems to have been initiated and completed in record time.

Unpublished studies rarely receive much media coverage, but the report was propelled into the public eye by a glowing 2,500 word ABC News story, longer than the body of the paper itself, and immediately Tweeted out by such high-profile individuals as Donald Trump, Jr. and the Executive Director of Human Rights Watch, thereby attracting a great deal of attention. According to Margolin’s article, it had been submitted to Nature Digital Health and was undergoing peer review, yet more than thirteen months later it has never appeared in that publication or anywhere else, implying that it was uniformly rejected for publication. Moreover, after such an auspicious launch, it has never been mentioned or cited in any subsequent mainstream analysis of the early Wuhan outbreak, suggesting that it was considered an embarrassment, an analysis that no respectable journalist nor editor took seriously.

The reasons are obvious. Covid is an extremely contagious disease, and once it has become established in an urban community, infections will normally tend to double every 3-6 days, so if thousands of Covid victims had been clogging Wuhan’s hospitals in September or October, the entire city would probably have reached herd immunity by the time the lockdowns and other strong public health measures were implemented in mid-January. Yet this huge supposed local health crisis had remained entirely invisible to the many Westerners who were still living in the city during that period.

The fact that a team of Harvard researchers was mobilized on such extremely short notice to produce an obviously fallacious and illogical study intended to explain away the secret DIA report simply underscores the tremendous importance of that inadvertent disclosure. And although apparently rejected by all academic journals and shunned by the regular media, the study has still served as a useful talking-point for the gullible, being regularly cited by online commenters as supposedly explaining and justifying those impossible DIA conclusions, which is how it first came to my attention.

False Narratives Based Upon False Positives

The promotion of the fallacious evidence that the Covid outbreak in Wuhan had begun much earlier than generally believed was a product of the anti-China camp. But similar sorts of claims have become quite common among pro-China propagandists, who have regularly argued that the virus was circulating in parts of Europe, America, and other countries during 2019, long before the Chinese authorities discovered its existence in Wuhan at the very end of that year. This theory has obviously been intended to deflect the accusation that a Chinese virus, whether natural or not, had been responsible for the deaths of millions around the world.

The most solid evidence for these supposedly early Covid infections have been tests of stored wastewater or blood samples in various countries, with the results published in reputable scientific journals. For reference purposes, here is a list of the examples known to me:

  • Barcelona, Spain. Reuters, The Conversation. Wastewater, March 12, 2019. Paper.
  • Milan, Italy, Reuters. Blood samples in lung cancer screening, as early as September 2019. Paper.
  • Santa Catalina, Brazil. SCMP. Wastewater, November 27, 2019. Paper.
  • France. CGTN, Inserm. Blood samples in twelve regions, between November 2019 and January 2020. Paper.
  • Milan and Turin, Italy. Reuters. Wastewater, December 18, 2019. Paper.
  • California and eight other states. NYT. Red Cross CDC blood samples, as early as December 13, 2019. Paper.
  • Illinois and four other states, NYT, WSJ. Blood samples, as early as December 24, 2019. Paper.

At first glance, this collection of more than a half-dozen scientific studies seems a very impressive body of evidence. But although these individual cases are often grouped together and presented as proof for the early presence of Covid in the West, important distinctions must be drawn. According to our standard timeline, the Covid virus probably first appeared in Wuhan between mid-October and mid-November of 2019, so given widespread international jet travel, the possibility that it might have initially reached parts of Europe or America by December hardly overturns our existing framework, and the same might even be true for those examples in which the virus seems to have appeared somewhere else by late November.

Wuhan is a densely populated urban metropolis, ideally suited for the rapid spread of an unsuspected contagious disease, and we still believe that a couple of months elapsed between the appearance of Patient Zero and the steadily growing epidemic reaching the attention of the local health authorities, so a roughly similar gap between the initial presence of the virus in other parts of the world and serious local outbreaks would only be expected. Also, the epidemiological simulations run in the Pekar study mentioned above have suggested that a large majority of initial pinprick infections die out by themselves, with only a fraction become the larger, exponentially-growing local epidemics that gain public visibility.

So among the above cases, only the first two—from March and September 2019—seem to seriously challenge our existing assumption of an original Wuhan source. And as we examine those cases in detail, their credibility disintegrates.

In June 2020, stored Barcelona wastewater revealed a single positive Covid result for March 12, 2019, while no other instances were found for the subsequent ten months until January 2020, a few weeks before the earliest victims were discovered and the large Spanish outbreak began. Such a single, anomalous datapoint can easily be ascribed to lab-error or accidental contamination of the sample, and indeed other Spanish and Chinese experts expressed strong skepticism of the test results on exactly those grounds.

Similarly, the Italian evidence for Covid infections as early as September 2019 was based upon stored blood samples from a large cancer-screening trial, and is also very doubtful. According to the antibody test used, a remarkable 11.6% of all healthy volunteers had tested positive for the virus by March 2020, seeming to imply that enormous numbers of Italians had already been infected by that date, a far larger total than the corresponding number of hospitalizations or deaths. So if an overwhelming majority of those 111 total Covid infections appear to be false-positives, the same might easily be true of the four cases that dated back to September.

The likely prevalence of false-positives also undermines the credibility of the other studies, which allegedly detected the virus in France, Brazil, Italy, and parts of the U.S. by November or December of 2019. For example, the French study based upon blood antibody tests seemed to reveal that 1.9% of the population—more than a million individuals—had already been infected by November 2019, which would have produced a huge public health care crisis long before the one that actually began in April of the following year.

Similarly, an antibody analysis of Red Cross blood samples by the researchers at our own CDC seemed to indicate that 2% of Americans—more than six million people—had already been infected by January 2020, long before our own first large outbreak began. If such enormous numbers of Americans had been infected that early, we surely would have seen direct evidence, and the exponential growth of infections would have swamped our health care system by the following month. Indeed, the lead author of the article seemed to acknowledge that the antibody evidence found was actually quite doubtful, suggesting that up to 98% of the supposed infections detected might be erroneous.

Our strong suspicion that nearly all these anomalous results were simply due to false-positives seems entirely confirmed once we carefully consider the details of the last study in the list.

On June 15, 2021 both the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal reported the results of a newly published study that applied antibody tests to a very large set of stored blood samples, and found evidence of American infections as early as December 24, 2019, several weeks before the first known case. It is hardly surprising that the virus might have reached this country before the end of 2019, and those results do not seriously challenge our existing narrative. However, certain aspects of the methodology employed provide important information.

Due to serious concerns over false-positives, the researchers had decided to apply two consequence Covid antibody tests to the 24,000 blood samples that they analyzed, and the first test flagged 147 positive results, a total which was then reduced to just 9 by the second test. This implies that roughly 95% of the initial Covid antibody matches were actually false-positives, and it is quite possible that a third antibody test might have further reduced the total of true infections detected. Once we realize that at least 95% of the matches in a single-antibody test are likely to be false-positives, the very few anomalous early Covid results in those other papers no longer seem at all mysterious.

All these studies were aimed at locating the earliest signs of the Covid virus in various parts of the world, and there surely must have been many other studies that found no results worthy of publication, let alone media coverage. Yet with the exception of two minor and obviously spurious instances, this global effort found absolutely no signs of the virus anywhere in the world prior to the date we currently believe that it first appeared in Wuhan. This provides strong support for the null hypothesis, fully affirming our existing Covid timeline.

Promoting a Ft. Detrick Lab-Leak as a Failure of Nerve

The total absence of any Covid antibodies prior to December 2019 in tens of thousands of American blood samples should be kept firmly in mind as we consider the possibility of a summer 2019 Ft. Detrick leak, a theory widely popular among pro-China propagandists and anti-American “conspiracy” websites.

From January 2020 onward, anti-China elements had been promoting the theory of a Wuhan lab-leak, so a few weeks later their pro-China and anti-American counterparts began responding in kind, arguing that Covid had indeed leaked from a lab, but that the source had been Ft. Detrick, America’s premier biowarfare center. In fairness, that latter hypothesis at least had some solid factual basis, given that the facility had been ordered shut down by the CDC for eight months due to safety violations, as reported in the New York Times and other newspapers:

Screenshot from The New York Times August 08, 2019
Screenshot from The New York Times August 08, 2019

However, the other half of the theory was much more doubtful. During 2019 there had been a flurry of unusual respiratory illnesses across America, including more than 2,600 individuals requiring hospitalization and 68 deaths, with the condition labeled EVALI by the CDC. A public shutdown of Ft. Detrick for safety violations soon followed by a wave of illness with symptoms somewhat similar to Covid constitutes a tidy package providing simple talking-points, and this allowed the blame for the virus to be thrown back at the Americans. Many pro-China partisans jumped at this attractive opportunity, with the accusations sometimes amplified by Chinese officials or media organs.

Unfortunately, this hypothesis disintegrates upon any close examination of the evidence. An unusual aspect of Covid is the extreme age-skew, with victims over 60 having fatality rates perhaps a hundred times greater than those under 40, and the young being almost invulnerable. Indeed, according to some estimates the majority of deaths have been among individuals in their late 70s or older. By contrast, EVALI was an illness of youth, with 52% of the serious cases occurring among those younger than 25, compared to perhaps 0.2% for Covid. Thus, the profile of victims seems entirely dissimilar, differing by more than two orders of magnitude.

Moreover, the single most important characteristic of Covid is the extremely contagious nature of the disease, with outbreaks growing exponentially if not controlled by strong public health measures. But the graph of EVALI cases provided on the CDC website tells a very different story, rising sharply during the summer of 2019, but then tailing off to low levels by late December.

EVALI Hospitalizations (CDC Website)
EVALI Hospitalizations (CDC Website)

If thousands of Americans had become infected with Covid by mid-2019, the total would have reached many tens of millions by the end of the year, and the resulting hundreds of thousands of excess deaths would have ensured that no one paid any attention to emerging reports of some viral outbreak in Wuhan on the other side of the world. By contrast, there seems no evidence that EVALI was contagious, and according to the CDC it was strongly associated with the use of Vitamin E acetate in vaping products.

Thus, the two illnesses had entirely different age-profiles, entirely different epidemiological characteristics, and apparently different causes. No trace of Covid antibodies was found in America during the peak of the EVALI cases, which had already dwindled down to low levels several months before our Covid outbreak began. There were only a few dozen EVALI cases in the Ft. Detrick region and far more in California, Texas, Illinois, and New York. And much speculation notwithstanding, there is no evidence that anything, contagious, Covid, or otherwise, had leaked out of Ft. Detrick around the time of its temporary shutdown.

Closely associated with the highly implausible theory of a Ft. Detrick lab-leak has been the suggestion that the virus was accidentally brought to Wuhan by the American participants in the World Military Games held in that city, which ended on October 27, 2019. That date does seem to almost perfectly match the beginning of the Covid outbreak, and for more than a year I have suggested that the presence of 300 American military servicemen and many thousands of those from other countries would have provided perfect cover for a couple of operatives to have been slipped into the city in order to quietly release the virus. It is noteworthy that the Sheraton Wuhan Hankou Hotel hosting some of the American military contingent was located only a mile and a half from the Huanan seafood market, an early epicenter of the outbreak, while the Wuhan lab is twenty miles distant.

But there is no evidence that any of the American participants were themselves infected and if Covid had already spread widely enough in the U.S. to have infected random members of the team, our own outbreak would have occurred months before the one in China rather than months afterward.

I strongly suspect that the widespread focus by pro-China partisans on a Ft. Detrick lab-leak or some other accidental American release has been due to political expediency more than anything else. As discussed above, there exists strong even overwhelming evidence that the worldwide Covid epidemic was caused by an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably by rogue elements of our national security establishment associated with the Deep State Neocons near the top of the Trump Administration. But with millions dead, many of them American, such monumental accusations might easily exceed the intestinal fortitude of nearly all journalists and editors, even those found among alternative media outlets. Therefore, they judged it far safer to instead condemn America for an alleged lab-leak at Ft. Detrick, thereby mirroring the Wuhan lab charges. But there are serious difficulties with advancing theories that have no factual basis, including doing severe damage to one’s future credibility.

Diverting “Conspiracy Theorists” into Dead-Ends

In the years following the 9/11 attacks, a vibrant movement of “conspiracy theorists” developed on the Internet, arguing that the true facts had been quite different than the official story, with most of them suggesting heavy American government involvement in those momentous events.

Back then, the Internet was far less channeled and regulated than it eventually became, and few effective means existed for the political establishment to shut down such troubling discussions. Therefore Harvard Law professor Cass Sunstein, soon to become a top Obama aide, shrewdly suggested that the activities of those energetic individuals could best be undermined and disrupted by means of “cognitive infiltration.” Agents of the government or its close allies should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader American public.

There is no evidence that Sunstein himself ever attempted to implement that project, nor did he pioneer the idea. Such an approach was hardly new, and J. Edgar Hoover’s notorious Cointelpro program of the late 1950s and 1960s had used quite similar methods, though the FBI had targeted real-life activist organizations rather than any non-existent online communities of those pre-Internet days. Indeed, the use of agents provocateurs has always been a standard operating technique of domestic intelligence services. But we should keep these obvious tactics in mind as we consider the vast profusion of diverse conspiratorial theories that have sprung up like mushrooms in the wake of the global Covid epidemic and the severe stresses that it imposed on the ordinary lives of so many Americans.

Many, perhaps most individuals are quite reluctant to embrace any theory not blessed by their personal figures of authority, whether these be the editors of the New York Times or the pundits of FoxNews. Only a small minority of the population is willing to cross such ideological boundaries and risk the stinging epithet of being labeled “a conspiracy theorist.”

Transgressive individuals who adhere to some heterodox beliefs are also usually willing to accept many others as well, and are often quite eager to do so, sometimes exhibiting the troubling lack of logical thinking and careful analytical judgment that may taint their entire community. This leaves them open to eagerly nibbling the poisoned bait of fraudulent but attractive theories, whether these are advanced by well-meaning advocates, self-serving charlatans, or covert agents of the establishment engaged in “cognitive infiltration.” The vast profusion of unorthodox Covid theories, heavily promoted in videos, Tweets, and websites, may derive from all three of these different sources.

Some individuals have claimed that Covid does not exist, or that it is almost harmless, being little more dangerous than the ordinary flu, with our alleged death-toll merely a product of fraud and media propaganda. Others have taken this notion even further, arguing that viruses in general do not exist. Such sentiments have been all too annoyingly frequent on the very lightly moderated comment-threads of this website, leading me to leave the following response on several occasions:

But here’s a listing of TOTAL American deaths from all causes over the last few years, taken directly from the CDC website:

2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,854,838
2020: 3,384,426

You’ll notice that the numbers are fairly steady until 2020 when they suddenly jumped by well over 500,000.

If I didn’t know any better, I’d almost think that America had been struck by a dangerous disease epidemic that year.

It’s obviously just a matter of personal opinion whether an extra half-million deaths in 2020 is a big number or a small number…

The strong public health measures implemented in this country and elsewhere to control the spread of the virus—lockdowns, masking, and social distancing—have been very disruptive and unpleasant for many people, provoking a wide range of harsh criticism, ranging from the reasonable to the ridiculous. The all-out effort to develop and distribute effective vaccines, including new and briefly-tested ones, has merged the Covid controversy with the longstanding anti-vaxx movement, whose best-known advocate has been Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

Not having devoted much time to these matters, I can only say that a great deal of the agitated commentary on this subject appears outlandish and implausible. Many activists seem to assume a unified worldwide conspiracy involving China, America, Russia, Israel, Iran, and virtually every other nation, all secretly working together to pretend that Covid is dangerous and that the vaccines against it are not, even though the truth is exactly the reverse. But the notion of all these mutually-hostile countries collaborating in such a bizarre scheme seems extremely unlikely, and Russian President Vladimir Putin recently made exactly this important point in his long annual presentation to his concerned citizens:

I heard: that there is nothing at all, in reality there is no epidemic. When you tell them that this is happening all over the world, they reply: “Right, country leaders have come into collusion.” Do they have any idea of what is happening in the world, of the contradictions that are plaguing today’s world, where all leaders allegedly upped and conspired with each other? It is absolute rubbish.

Particularly absurd has been the cast of primary villains for many of these agitated activists, who often focus upon Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum and Microsoft founder Bill Gates as the diabolical masterminds of our global calamity, with their plot identified as “the Great Reset.” A couple of months ago I addressed some of these claims in one of my comments:

I’ll admit that the whole Great Reset/Agenda 2021/World Economic Forum stuff has always seemed like total crackpottery to me, so ridiculous that I never looked into it other than sometimes reading some of the articles or discussion on my own website. I also put all the “Bill Gates’ diabolical plot to exterminate mankind” stuff in pretty much the same category.

My very strong suspicion is that these sorts of (in my opinion) implausible and ridiculous “conspiracy theories” are probably promoted to divert attention from the very real and strong evidence of Covid-19 having been an American biowarfare attack. After all, wouldn’t the CIA or whomever prefer that agitated activists on the Internet spend all their time ranting about some 83-year-old Swiss international banker named Klaus Schwab who holds annual public conferences in Davos rather than paying attention to all the numerous pieces of evidence I’ve accumulated implicating America’s national security apparatus in the gigantic global disaster?

In fact, didn’t that Cass Sunstein fellow years ago say that the using “cognitive infiltration” to promote ridiculous nonsense was the best means of defeating “conspiracy theorists” on the Internet? It worked pretty well for 9/11, so why not apply it to Covid-19 as well?

I’d be the first to admit that various groups and individuals are certainly taking advantage of the viral epidemic, notably getting the Federal Reserve to spend many trillions of dollars bailing out their businesses and loans, and massively boosting their stock prices. But after the 2008 Financial Meltdown, they used their political power to loot the American Treasury in exactly the same way and got a huge government bailout without the need for any disease outbreak. So I doubt they created Covid-19 for that purpose.

Most recently, Dr. Anthony Fauci of our NIH has become demonized as a particular target, partly because he had already been hated by many activists for his association with our unpopular lockdowns and other measures to control the epidemic. Cable news shows have focused on the supposed revelation that he had been involved in funding the research of the Wuhan lab, including the enhancement of viruses, seeming to imply that he was responsible for the creation of Covid.

But these facts had already been widely known for more than a year, presented in an April 2020 article in Newsweek. Anyway, since Covid probably didn’t come from the Wuhan lab, the entire issue is completely irrelevant, a classic red herring used to distract the gullible. As I discussed in a comment last month:

I think 95% of the people currently ranting about “Gain of Function” had never even heard the term until a few weeks ago when the talking-heads on FoxNews and CNN began spouting it 24/7 in the wake of Wade’s important article.

Everyone even moderately interested has known for a year or more that the NIH had provided much of the funding for the Wuhan lab’s virus research via Daszak’s organization, and that such research including enhancing the characteristics of viruses, i.e. GoF. I read the long Deigin article when it appeared in April 2020 and also the long and persuasive 12,000 word cover-story by Nicholas Baker when it appeared in January 2021. As Wade himself emphasized, nearly all the facts he discussed had been publicly known for a year or more but had simply been ignored by the Trump-hating American MSM.

The Wuhan lab did research enhancing viruses. So what? Many, many other labs, most of them American and some of them secret biowarfare sites, do exactly the same sort of research. The only reason people point at the Wuhan lab is because it’s in Wuhan.

The Unresolved Phylogenetic Analysis Puzzle

For reasons of completeness, I should also discuss one strange aspect of the global Covid epidemic that has been completely ignored by our Western media even while it has been heavily promoted by pro-China activists and outlets.

Like any RNA coronavirus, Covid has undergone a series of random mutations as it has spread around the world, and scientists have created an international database containing a large number of fully-sequenced Covid viruses from different geographical regions, allowing experts to trace the likely origins of particular outbreaks.

Beginning in March 2020, several different research teams of virologists and other scientists published academic papers attempting to use this genetic data to construct a complete ancestry-tree of the virus, using mathematical techniques to divide the virus into several major clades or ancestral families. But the rather surprising findings seemed to reveal only a single uniform clade in Wuhan itself, while several different ancestral families were found in Guangdong, other countries in Asia and Europe, and especially in the United States. This was illustrated by the diagrams below, taken from one of these papers.

Such a result seemed quite counter-intuitive, since we would normally expect the greatest genetic diversity of the virus to be found at the site of its first appearance, and various pro-China writers quickly seized upon these findings to argue that Covid did not originate in Wuhan but instead had been brought there from the U.S., which possessed the greatest number of different Covid strains.

These journal articles were published at the early stages of the massive international propaganda-war between China and America over culpability for the global disaster, whose cost would total many trillions of dollars. Most of the papers were written by Chinese researchers at Chinese academic institutions, raising natural suspicions that the findings might be inaccurate or at least distorted. But one of the most prominent articles was authored by a British-German team and appeared in PNAS, the prestigious flagship journal of the our own National Academy of Science, and anyway all the results were supposedly based upon objective analyses of a public genetic dataset. The following are links to two of the earliest papers as well as a much more recent one:

As we have seen, analysis of stored wastewater and blood samples in the U.S., Europe, and other parts of the world have found no credible traces of Covid anywhere prior to the Wuhan outbreak, so the interpretation of these research findings by pro-China elements seems erroneous. But the international map of Covid clades remains puzzling.

Given the total absence of any discussion of these anomalies in the mainstream sources I consulted, I tried to read the articles for myself, but my complete lack of technical expertise left me adrift. The important PNAS paper had provoked three critical letters by other researchers that disputed the results, and the authors then rebutted these, while admitting that the implications of their findings had been misinterpreted by some writers. But I found it impossible to properly evaluate these conflicting scientific claims.

With no informed discussion of the results anywhere to be found and being at a loss to properly interpret them, I contacted a knowledgeable individual and solicited his opinion. Although previously unaware of these scientific findings, he suggested that the small number of Covid mutations during the few months between the initial Wuhan outbreak and those which soon followed elsewhere in the world might render the ancestry-tree techniques invalid or misleading, perhaps explaining the discrepancy. But I would feel much more comfortable if this issue were thoroughly debated in public by disinterested scientists rather than having been entirely ignored by our media.

Understanding the Most Important World Event in Three Generations

World War II ended more than 75 years ago, and across the last three generations there seems no single event that has impacted the world as much as the ongoing global Covid epidemic. The collapse of the USSR would be the only serious rival, but while that dramatic development greatly changed the lives of hundreds of millions of Soviet citizens and Eastern Europeans, most people elsewhere regarded it as nothing more than a story in the news. By contrast, the daily lives of many billions have already been drastically affected by Covid, while the fiscal and economic policies of major nations including our own have been transformed.

From the very beginning, many leading scientific experts believed that Covid was a product of human design, notably including virologist David Baltimore, a Nobel Laureate and former president of Caltech. But for various reasons our Western media establishment instead quickly constructed a Potemkin-like consensus that the virus was entirely natural and the global catastrophe a random, unforeseen event for which no one could be blamed. However, over the last couple of months, this propaganda-bubble has collapsed, and there is now increasing agreement that Covid was probably an artificial creation, engineered in some laboratory.

The same American-dominated propaganda organs that had spent more than twelve months mustering shreds of fact and logic to loudly proclaim that the virus was natural and ignoring all dissenting voices have now mustered other shreds of fact and logic to argue that it was created in China and leaked from a Wuhan lab, once again ignoring those who suggest otherwise.

But the flood of mainstream writers promoting this new consensus have built their narrative on a factual foundation that is gossamer-thin, and those spiderwebs of speculation were recently swept aside by the direct personal testimony of Danielle Anderson, a respected Western virologist who was working at the Wuhan lab during that period, and who described the likelihood that Covid was either created there or that any lab-leak had ever occurred as “exceedingly slim.”

From the first, there had been three plausible origins for the disease. Covid was either a natural virus, a Chinese virus, or an American virus. But although our media has wildly swung between the first and second possibilities, the third has been entirely excluded from consideration, with those who suggest it completely ignored.

This information blackout was even extended to major world governments. The remarkable speed with which the virus had jumped more than 3,000 miles from Wuhan to Qom and infected much of Iran’s parliament and political leadership class led that country and its media to denounce the outbreak as a likely American biowarfare attack against its two leading international adversaries, China and Iran, with the former Iranian president lodging an official complaint with the United Nations. But virtually no Americans were ever informed of these grave public accusations by a nation of 80 million people.

A few weeks ago I summarized my own conclusions regarding the epidemic:

Thus, we are left with the strong likelihood that Covid came from a laboratory along with a good possibility that it was designed as a bioweapon, yet we lack serious indications that any lab-leak occurred. So if the original Wuhan outbreak was due to the deployment of a powerful bioweapon but not one that had accidentally leaked from any lab, then surely China was the intended target, the victim rather than the perpetrator. Indeed, the PRC only avoided suffering devastation because it responded in such extremely prompt fashion and quickly imposed exceptionally strong public health controls. Some 700 million Chinese were confined to their homes for weeks, a lockdown probably more than a thousand times greater than anything previously seen in history.

Given our ongoing military and geopolitical confrontation with China, America seems the likely source of the attack. However, once the virus eventually reached our own country, President Trump’s completely lackadaisical response demonstrated that he himself had absolutely no idea that he was confronting the threat of a dangerous bioweapon, thereby proving his own personal innocence. The most likely suspects would be rogue elements of our national security establishment, probably some of the Deep State Neocons whom Trump had placed near the top of his administration.

This small handful of high-level plotters would have then drawn upon the resources of the American national security apparatus to actually carry out the operation. The virus and its dispersal devices might have been obtained from Ft. Detrick and CIA operatives or members of special forces would have been sent to Wuhan to release it. However, all these latter individuals would have believed that they were participating in a fully authorized covert military strike against America’s primary geopolitical adversary. In effect, what happened was a Dr. Strangelove-type scenario, but brought to real life.

I have elsewhere provided summaries of the evidence favoring a biowarfare attack over a random lab-leak and also an outline of the hypothetical scenario:

During the fifteen months that I have advocated this same basic thesis, the most surprising reaction has been from the fierce critics of the Trump Administration, so numerous in elite circles.

During the last few years, Trump was regularly vilified in almost comic-book fashion, as a uniquely dangerous president who threatened our entire way of life, with such hysterical charges usually being based upon his crude public utterances or even his misspelled Tweets. Meanwhile, these same critics have entirely ignored the very real evidence that individuals he had placed in authority had carried out an exceptionally reckless biowarfare attack against China and Iran, with the unintended blowback consequences having devastated our own society and killed many hundreds of thousands of our citizens. The ruling elites who fiercely attacked Trump dwelt upon his vulgar trivialities, which were magnified beyond all recognition, while steadfastly disregarding those enormities, thereby demonstrating astonishing levels of decadence and solipsism.

Future historians will surely mark this as a very telling episode in the likely twilight of the decaying American Empire.

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  1. Ron Unz says:

    Given the main topic of this long article and the sentiments of many commenters, I fear that many remarks may substantially deviate from the proper theme of this thread.

    Please be warned that discussion of Flu Hoaxery, anti-Vaxxery, unorthodox medical cures, or similar tangential issues are likely to be regarded as seriously off-topic and are much less likely to be published. So just take them elsewhere, including on this website.

  2. I found this short video of great interest. The man who developed the two mRNA based vaccines is unsure they are safe. (Pfizer and Moderna) The Johnson and Johnson is based on the proven/traditional dead virus vaccine. For unknown reasons, Youtube allowed this video, and it got 2.5 million views in one month!

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTX

    Governments are confused why millions of Americans don’t want a COVID vaccine. One problem is they read. For example, here is an article where the two mRNA vaccine makers say a booster shot is required every six to eight months, and brag about the money they will make. Meanwhile, government experts think they may be good for a year, but are not sure, while some studies claim that vaccines are good for years.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/will-we-need-covid-19-booster-shots-increasingly-the-expectation-is-yes-11621956459?mod=home-page

    If the vaccines are only good for a short term, then the vaccination rate will decline! Most people became ill from their first vaccine, do they want one twice a year?

    • Disagree: Sarah
  3. “From the first, there had been three plausible origins for the disease. Covid was either a natural virus, a Chinese virus, or an American virus. But although our media has wildly swung between the first and second possibilities, the third has been entirely excluded from consideration, with those who suggest it completely ignored.”

    The scientific experts conflict one another and without a scientific certainty whether this virus was man made or not, it’s irrelevant. Would we think it so important to find the origination of each flu virus, or any virus? Maybe. If it’s politically important, yes. For example the Spanish Flu, no one knows for certain where it came from, but our government and allies wanted to blame it on someone else. It never came from Spain that much is sure. AIDs? For some reason it was important to blame an African monkey and not drug using homosexuals. Either way we will never truly know.

    This blame game is absolutely a waste of time. The governments and media narratives surrounding the virus are what is important. Especially when you consider how exaggerated all initial estimates of infections and deaths were and who benefited from the coordinated global lockdown response. The WHO and CDC have a strong history of over blowing supposed pandemics. It is accepted now for instance that heterosexuals have no risk of getting AIDS. How they count AIDS cases in Africa is also bogus. The WHO, CDC, and big pharma only get paid when there is a big boogy man out there, so they will always exaggerate the dangers.

    If I had to speculate I would ask, who benefits? Technology, Healthcare industries, and Banking (getting the entire western world to double their debt in 1 year). I won’t get conspiratorial in regards to privacy rights and other liberties, mainly because those have all been slowly eroding away anyway, the covid pandemic just has accelerated the erosion.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @TTSSYF
  4. Let’s do a quick CTRL-F analysis:
    “Bioweapon” appears a remarkable 21 times.
    “Gain of function?” zero
    “Daszak” zero
    “Baric” zero
    “PREDICT” zero
    “USAID” zero
    “NIAID,” “NIH,” “Fauci” — also zero

    I realize that Unz is pretty invested in the “ZOG bioweapon!” vs. “CCP bioweapon!” dialectic, and conflating “possible lab origin” with “bioweapon,” but still… it would be good if he at least acknowledged the well-known existence of high level collaboration between Chinese AND American government entities in sponsoring research intended to enhance the virulence and transmissibility of bat coronaviruses for ostensibly “peaceful” purposes.

    Other notes:

    Together with its close Israeli ally, the U.S. has long maintained an effective network of agents and operatives in Iran…

    Leaving aside the [obviously false] characterization of the Zionist entity as somehow an “ally” to America — which country runs the port of Haifa again?
    And to which country has Israel been selling US military technology for the past 40 years?
    See also:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/06/israels-growing-ties-china-are-testing-its-relationship-with-us/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=blackstone+china&ia=web
    Etc.

    Also, Unz engages in some slick maneuvering with the Ebright quotes here in a way that seems a little unfair to Ebright:

    In his January 29, 2020 interview with the Washington Post, he had declared: “Based on the virus genome and properties there is no indication whatsoever that it was an engineered virus.”

    1. That was very early on in the epidemic.
    2. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

    That quote is mmediately followed by this one:

    And according to a Post story a couple of weeks later, he also added “The possibility that this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded.”

    Again, accidental leak from gain of function research =/= intentional bioweapon deployment. But by citing these two short quotes in quick succession, then repeating the term “bioweapon” yet again in the very next sentence, Unz attempts to give the reader the impression that the two are the same.

    What did Ebright have to say about that important distinction? From Mother Jones, 5/14/20:

    One of the few scientists to speculate publicly was the well-known Rutgers microbiologist Richard Ebright. “The possibility that SARS-CoV-2 entered humans as a direct result of the activities of PREDICT—during field collection of bats and bat excreta, or during laboratory characterization of bats, bat excreta, or bat viruses—cannot be excluded and cannot be dismissed,” he told me, comparing the idea of actively seeking new viruses in remote places and bringing them back to labs (in densely populated areas) to “looking for a gas leak with a lighted match.”

    Good point. The process of collecting all of these viruses from the wild and storing/ culturing them in a major urban center enhances the risk of accidental release into human populations, even before they start in with the “gain of function” stuff. It would be interesting to know exactly what Ben Hu was doing with his research with chimeric bat coronaviruses in humanized mice from the lab of American microbiologist Ralph S. Baric of the University of North Carolina, though…

    • Thanks: Dieter Kief, Kali, Alfred
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  5. But the international map of Covid clades remains puzzling.

    If the coronavirus pandemic was an example of biological warfare, then not expecting blowback from the attack would be rank stupidity.

    How could a country instigating biological warfare protect its home and its allied populations? A vaccination campaign in the home and allied countries prior to the attack would be too obvious. A possible solution is to release far more infectious but relatively benign variants in the home country and its allied populations and an extremely damaging variant in the target countries.

    How could plan possibly go wrong? Testing only on the young and failing to take account of the elderly.

    The former Novartis and now CSL (Seqirus) Fluad and the Hungarian Fluart flu vaccines include an adjuvant designed to activate the immune system and it is mainly the elderly and the immuno compromised who are given flu vaccines. If the more infectious but supposedly benign variant reacted with the adjuvant to cause the cytokine storm you have an explanation both for the high mortality among the elderly and the sudden panic of Western politicians who early on were so unconcerned and talking of herd immunity.

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    Look at the excess mortality figures in Europe which are available at https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps, note that Germany had a greater peak of excess deaths in 2018 than 2020-2021 and Greece for example had no excess deaths, while the peaks for the UK and to a lesser extent Spain, France and Italy are extraordinary.

    The flu vaccination rates by country offer a partial explanation https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org//sites/2700bb99-en/index.html?itemId=/content/component/2700bb99-en#figure-d1e22268. However not all flu vaccines have an adjuvant so the real test would be to compare the adjuvanted flu vaccine sales per country (which are available for a fee from market analysts) to the excess deaths.

    I would also note that knowledge of the bioweapon’s use would have to be limited and that once blowback occurred the bioweapons party in government would rapidly lose favor and power and their opponents would take over.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Mark Hunter
  6. angmoh says:

    The analysis in this article suggests that there is a lack of molecular genetic evidence for recent GOF selection. There is further discussion of other aspects of the current debate on this topic.

    Of course there is still a dearth of reliable and unbiased information on this issue – the questions are still worth asking.

  7. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    So-called weapons of mass destruction are usually taken to fall into one of three categories: Biological, Chemical or Nuclear. I think we have now seen how catastrophic the first class can be when set loose in the world either by accident or design. Someone seems to be walking a dangerous fine line, either the Russians and their allies or more likely Washington and its allies, with their reckless handling of purported batches of “Novichok” in Europe and Sarin in the Middle East. I hope the warrior chemists have learnt a lesson from the warrior microbiologists about the dangers of being sloppy or being full of much more hubris than caution and good sense. The nuclear warriors are as crazy as ever, making threats that if put into play would see the end of all civilisation.

    Instead of electing a competent “philosopher king” to judiciously hammer out agreements with Putin and Xi to contain these dangerous genies capable of killing us all, maybe even the cockroaches, the string pullers behind the scenes give us the corrupt-to-the-core and barely lucid Dementia Joe as the preferred alternative to the much maligned snatch-grabbing tax dodger whom nobody realised was actually meant to lose the previous presidential election by design to the scarily ferocious Hillary. If such inherently lethal WMD’s cannot be negotiated into oblivion by national leaders of good will, just what is the plan for the day they break jail? You know, because Murphy’s Law and all that? Maybe coming to pass by virtue of something an AI entity we also create and assign too much decision-making prerogatives down the road? We cannot use the “Iraq Gambit” of blowing their nation-state owners to smithereens without causing the very devastation we wish to avoid. Even taking out the nuclear weapons stockpiles of a North Korea, Pakistan, India or Israel–to say nothing of the major players–with a military strike would precipitate a nuclear winter. When contemplating such days, I really wish those anonymous space aliens so befuddling our finest minds in military spookdom would step forward and volunteer their wisdom on the subject. All I’m hearing from team H. sapiens right now is “I got nothin’.”

  8. I doubt the world is capable of honestly figuring out the origins of COVID-19. The media is a tool to create narratives for people to believe in. I don’t expect much more than delusions and deceptions from the media.

    The US military is afraid of blow back from COVID-19. Particularly, they don’t want scrutiny of their bio-warfare programs and the Vanity Fair article documented a little bit of this. The US military establishment has a lot of power to make inconvenient stories go away. We aren’t privy to classified Chinese communications and maybe the DIA is. The Moderna vaccine was ready two days after the Chinese had sequenced the virus’s genome.

    I’ll add to the conspiracy theory. What if agents of the US military were inoculated with this vaccine and were asymptomatic carriers of the virus? They could go to all these countries or meet people who would go to these countries and shed the virus like at the games in Wuhan. The danger of fixating on Wuhan or any spot is that it leads to tunnel vision like WTC 7 and 9/11. It doesn’t change the fact that our country is run by evil human beings, and despite China being a better country in many respects it is still authoritarian. If the virus is man-made then it could have been initially released anywhere. There could be multiple versions of it that were developed and released. The new ones coming out could be updates in their field experiment. I’m no expert. Is it productive to focus on who did it like 9/11, rather than the very real policies of the US government like its terrible COVID-19 response, the existence of biolabs with dangerous pathogens, and US warmongering? Why do we need biolabs with dangerous pathogens, including gain-of-function research if we can have a vaccine within 2 days of a dangerous pathogen’s genome being sequenced? The development of Moderna’s 2 day miracle needs to be thoroughly explained. Did they have to tweak an existing vaccine that was in development, did they have it already due to insider knowledge, or are vaccine manufacturers just that good nowadays!

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  9. GMC says:

    Most of us don’t need much more evidence than this, but one has to wonder how the public refuses to see the writing on the wall, if they just do a little research. Just one look at the number of BioWeapons labs that the US, Israel, Brits, Germans, Italians, Ukrainian and other militaries have around the world, should be pretty convincing.
    . Now add the BioLabs from Monsanto/Bayer, Carghill, DuPont, all the Big Pharma ones , and let’s not forget about all the interrelated Universities and Research centers around the world who are funded by the same governments, corporations and “philanthropist/ Humanitarian” foundations. The verdict is Guilty , and there is nyet need for any – investigation or trial because the last thing we will ever get is Justice from these liars, Thieves and Murderers. What’s next – Cyber Wars, false flags and more death.

    • Agree: Alfred, Red Pill Angel
  10. When technopolies aka deep state censors a sitting president who surrounds himself with traitorous big government goons, hell bent on the enslavement of the white working class, I’m more than convinced that this plandemic is a mixture of US/ChiCom collusion to undermine Trump and his 75 million supporters exposing all the corruption in offshoring American factories and the jobs that went with it.
    Big tech aka technopolies and their banker baron handlers decided it would be in the best interest for (((them))) to roll out a global virus to protect their vital interest by declaring themselves ‘essential assets’ to destroy nonessential businesses, reaping trillions in added value as small businesses collapse under the cloak of a fake pandemic.
    Countries the world over need to send a middle finger to every NWO state with a clear message, fuck off, we don’t buy your NWO B.S.

    • Agree: Morton's toes, Dystopian
  11. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:

    2014: 2,626,418
    2015: 2,712,630
    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,813,503
    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,854,838
    2020: 3,384,426

    Was there much difference between states that drastically locked down and those with less draconian policies? Also, the lockdown policies made things worse in places like NY where Covid patients were placed in nursing homes, negatively affecting the most vulnerable population.

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    Also, might not a comparable number of people have died even without a pandemic as the result of severe disruptions to the economy, culture, and daily routines? One thing for sure, the panic kept many people away from hospitals out of fear of infection. Many people with serious illnesses weren’t treated. Many turned to alcoholism and drugs. Suicide rate spiked among certain age groups.

    Millions of Russians died prematurely in the 1990s due to massive economic shocks that also led to social malady and alienation. There was no pandemic.

    So, the idea that all 500,000 excess deaths were related to Covid seems unlikely. Perhaps, 200,000, but the rest were negatively affected by profound disruptions to their normal lives.

    Suppose there was no pandemic in 2020 but the government, federal and local, had mandated lockdowns and ground much of the economy, social life, and health-related activity to a standstill. With rising depression and isolation, along with many people going untreated or unexamined out of fear of hospitals, the death rates would surely have risen sharply.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
  12. @Ron Unz

    Great article, but the warning to censor is unbecoming of this great site I’ve come to embraced with informed topics declared taboo by the usual cast and crew.
    Thank you for exposing truth in a world of disinformation.

    • Agree: Johnny Smoggins
    • Disagree: Sarah
    • Replies: @Avery
  13. Feb. 25, 2021: “Positive COVID-19 samples had been reported earlier than those officially accepted by health authorities in other countries, such as France and Italy. Analyzing Covid genomes using k-mer natural vector method, we conclude that the virus likely already existed in France, India, Netherlands, England, and the USA before the Wuhan outbreak”.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10473-021-0323-x

    The CDC found Covid endemic in the US in December, 2019, and on June 23, 2021, an NIH study confirmed that by announcing COVID-19 prevalence far exceeded early pandemic cases. NIH researchers estimate nearly 17 million undiagnosed cases in the U.S. by mid-July 2020 and that there were 4.8 undiagnosed cases for every diagnosed COVID-19 case in this time frame, representing an additional 16.8 million cases by July alone.
    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-suggests-covid-19-prevalence-far-exceeded-early-pandemic-cases

    June 19, 2021: the Chief Scientist at the European Precision Research Institute in France, told the media that her team found the outbreak in France before 2020 was caused by an indigenous virus. After she published her paper disproving the connection between France’s outbreak and Wuhan, the French government and politicians silenced and shunned her institute.
    https://newcoldwar.org/us-scientists-report-earliest-known-covid-19-case-a-solid-proof-next-stage-should-be-focused-especially-on-the-us-chinese-epidemiologist/

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Paul2
    , @MEH 0910
  14. The reason that the origins of COVID is so “mysterious” is that the published mainstream material we get to read about its origin is generated under the watchful eye of the Intelligence Services that represent the interests of the forces responsible for creating this entire global fraud.

    The truth of this will never be nailed down until the world has been broken and is in the process of reconstruction.

    The labs are most likely responsible for producing the spike-protein-manufacturers in the vaccine. That’s where the real bio-weapon lurks.

    Prime suspect for the original COVID symptoms is 5G. EMF radiation was recognised as the cause of severe chest infections in the 1600s when outbreaks were correlated to high sunspot activity by the Galileos of this world (using their telescopes) … hence the name INFLUENZA (del stelle) or, “influence of the stars.

    Science used to be a thing in the 1600s.
    Today the ‘wisest’ skeptics edit their perspective, shutting off the obvious as possible cause.

    Weep while ye may.

    • Thanks: Kali, Bugey libre
  15. Ron, I always find your articles very interesting and sometimes also convincing. I also think that America is behind the virus as a bio-weapon against China (although it backfired).

    But to ignore the dangers of the vaccines and other convincing arguments by inter alia Robert F. Kenndedy, prof Michel Chossudovsky (global research) and William Engdahl as being conspiracy theories, is not convincing at all.

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    How will we know when the real afcts are hidden from us?

    In civil law you work with a degree of proof called a “balance of probabilities” to come to a conclusion about any matter. Lord Denning stated in Miller v Minister of Pensions (1974) 2 All ER 372 that, in evaluating “evidence”, we must say: “we think it more probable than not”. So, does one version outweigh the other, or not?

    What is being weighed in the “balance” is not quantities of evidence, but the probabilities arising from that evidence and all the circumstances of the case.

    There are a lot of reasons to distrust the current vaccines. There are also a lot of reasons to ask “quo bono” (who reaps the benefits) out of all of this, because it can bring is sloser to the truth.

    The debate must continue to bring us closer to a better decision.

    • Thanks: Bugey libre
  16. ISL says:

    Ron Unz,

    Each of your articles has strengthened the arguments. Also supportive is that China acted in exactly the manner one would expect for a bioweapon (not a highly toxic flu), particularly the construction of special permanent infectious disease hospitals in an amazingly short time. Russia followed suit.

    It is almost as if they expected more new pandemics. Of course plausible deniability works both ways, and if your scenario is correct, retaliation seems likely – particularly since the US health care system has been revealed as singularly incapable of addressing a pandemic – i.e., economic damage is magnified due to structural incompetence and corruption.

    Given the uncertainty of vaccines and variants, this fall would present an ideal opportunity.

  17. As a man incapable of total honesty, Unz credits America (or its’ Israel partner) as the source of the Iranian viral attack on its leadership.
    Clearly, Iran is an enemy of Israel not the U.S. An honest man would note this and credit Mossad with that attack. But given the habitual dishonesty of the Jewish (lack of) character, Unz spews garbage.
    In fact, Vanguard and Blackrock, both creatures of the 13 Families, own most of the world. Rothschild is at the heart of this. It is estimated that Rothschild has 500 trillion in assets. The idea that anything happens without his approval or support is laughable.
    We must, therefore, argue that the attack on humanity is a Jewish attack on the World. That’s right folks, Satan’s Chosen are, as usual, attempting yet another genocide.
    As Event 201 pre-saged Covid 19 so Cyber Polygony (started July 9th) will see cyber attacks, logistic disruptions, food shortages leading to famine and total elite co trol of Internet and all comms.
    Welcome to the Jew World Order per Washington Post, October 6th, 1940.

    • Troll: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @Wizard of Oz
  18. @Ron Unz

    I’m in total agreement with you Ron – we should just deal in FACTS.

    Seeing as I’m Australian, let’s look at this graph which shows the percentage of Australians that have received the experimental mRNA jabs and try to extrapolate if there’s a relationship between low vaccination rates and Covid Mortality:

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    https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/Y66oYna6c-q85rTZy6qJbbFYivU=/800×0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2F7af70cb1-e844-4cbf-bca0-f0d0466280c0

    Oh dear, it seems that Australia is a stone-cold dead motherless LAST PLACE compared to other major countries, with just over 4% of the population having been gullible enough to accept the experimental gene therapy that’s masquerading as a vaccine.

    Surely then, our Covid mortality statistics must be horrific.

    ACTUAL OUTCOME: Only ONE (1) person is alleged* to have died from Covid-19 this year in Australia.

    (* I say alleged because said very old individual had multiple co-morbitities that almost certainly killed them, but miraculously Covid got the blame).

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Thanks: Bugey libre
  19. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    The fact that the natural origin narrative had been pushed so hard by the Western MSM for many months strongly suggests the US Deep State bioweapon. At the time, they wanted to hide their weapon by claiming it’s not a weapon at all.

    The good news is that the Chinese are finally starting to figure out the gravity of the situation. In related news, it looks like they’re building hundreds of new nuclear silos. I can’t say I blame them.

    • Replies: @MarkU
  20. utu says:

    (1) Wade and possibly Baker cited opinion of David Baltimore (related to the furin cleavage) in support that the virus was man made. I got an impression that Baltimore was the only high calibre scientist they could come up with because most of their claims were based on Yuri Deigin and Steven Quay who are not biologists. Steven Quay (physicians and successful entrepreneur) was clearly recruited by some ex State Dept guy currently with some conservative think tank while Deigin (mathematician) is a puzzle but his bio (is in one of my comments) indicates that he is a hustler.

    Anyway David Baltimore changed or significantly qualified his opinion in June 2021.

    Column: A Nobel laureate backs off from claiming a ‘smoking gun’ for the COVID-19 lab-leak theory (Jun 8)
    https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-06-08/nobel-laureate-baltimore-smoking-gun-for-the-covid-lab-leak-theory

    The Debate over Origins of SARS-CoV-2 (Jun 22)
    https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/the-debate-over-origins-of-sars-cov-2

    So where did it come from in SARS-CoV-2? There are other viruses that have furin cleavage sites, other coronaviruses, though not the family of beta-coronaviruses. So this sequence’s nucleotides could have hopped from some other virus. No one has identified a virus that has exactly this sequence, but it could have come from something close, then evolved into the sequence that we see today.

    So it appears that there are no scientists who would unequivocally and publicly support artificial origin of the COvid-19 virus. Luc Montagnier who lost his marbles long time ago does not count.

    (2) As I understand it the construction of the phylogenetic tree as a mathematical problem has no unique solution. That one solution is produced it is because of constraints that sometimes can be invalid or arbitrary. The algorithms are complex and different algorithms produce different solutions. For example Peter Forster used the method that calls for an outgroup reference which in his case was the virus that Shi Zhengli revealed as deus ex machina in late January 2020 claiming that it was sequenced in 2013 but it was never cataloged or published and it no longer physically existed.

    Using different rooting methods results can be completely different:

    Assessing Uncertainty in the Rooting of the SARS-CoV-2 Phylogeny (December 2020)
    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/38/4/1537/6028993?login=true

    We investigate several different strategies for rooting the SARS-CoV-2 tree and provide measures of statistical uncertainty for all methods. We show that methods based on the molecular clock tend to place the root in the B clade, whereas methods based on outgroup rooting tend to place the root in the A clade.

    Previous analyses have reached different conclusions about the rooting of the phylogeny. Although analyses that used an outgroup reached one placement (Shen et al. 2020; Tang et al. 2020; Yu et al. 2020; Zhang et al. 2020), analyses that used midpoint rooting reached another placement (Li, Zai, Zhao, et al. 2020; Li, Zai, Wang, et al. 2020; Nie et al. 2020), and yet other analyses using a Bayesian molecular clock have reached a different placement of the root (Benvenuto et al. 2020; Giovanetti et al. 2020; Lemey et al. 2020; Li, Li, et al. 2020).

    Molecular clock method places the age of the rood in mid October 2019 while the outgroup rooting method places it in mid August 2019. The latter is similar to Peter Forster’s result.

    One reason that you won’t get biologists discussing too much the phylogenetic tree ambiguities is because the practitioners do not understand methodology too well. They use mathematical idiot proofed packages that were written by mathematicians.

    • Troll: Alfred
  21. Anon[994] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/fake-or-true-patents-filed-in-america-as-far-back-as-2002-concerning-sars-cov-2-coronavirus-who-really-created-the-pandemic-fact-checkers-needed

    Senator Rand Paul along with other fact checkers need to check on these following patents that can be found in the official site of the American Patent Office. https://www.uspto.gov/

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    Go to this section of their website and key in the following patent numbers: https://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm

    Patent Number: 7279327
    https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

    This is a SARS-Cov-2 patent filed in April 2002 by researchers from University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill University and also Ralph Baric for a “an infectious, replication defective, coronavirus particle, that specifically targets lung epithelial cells wherein said cell is a coronavirus permissive cell…..” This virus was genetically modified to infect humans more effectively! The research and development of this research was funded by Dr Anthony Fauci from the NIH! There were claims that this research was initiated to develop HIV vaccines using coronaviruses as vectors. However the research deployed genetically modifying platforms to enhance the coronavirus to infect human cells using the ACE2 receptors!

    Patent Number: 7220852
    ;p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7220852.PN.&OS=PN/7220852&RS=PN/7220852″>https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7220852.PN.&OS=PN/7220852&RS=PN/7220852

    Patent filed in April 2003 by US CDC for the SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 genome. (Note that American laws do not allow a naturally occurring virus to be patented!)

    Patent Number: 46592703P and 776521 concerning the SARS-CoV-2 were classified by the CIA and masked in the last 24 hours! (These patents cover about PC RCT testing platforms for SARS-CoV-2!)

  22. From the first, there had been three plausible origins for the disease. Covid was either a natural virus, a Chinese virus, or an American virus. But although our media has wildly swung between the first and second possibilities, the third has been entirely excluded from consideration, with those who suggest it completely ignored.

    No, there have been two plausible origins for the disease. Your “third” option has been “ignored”, because it is absurd.

    Using the world’s most contagious virus as a bioweapon, against your biggest trade partner, and keeping borders open long after it has been discovered, and preparing in no other way, is utterly implausible behaviour.

  23. utu says:

    That viruses escape from labs or are deliberately released there is a precedence in Russia:

    The Reemergent 1977 H1N1 Strain and the Gain-of-Function Debate (2015 Jul-Aug)
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4542197/

    The 1977-1978 influenza epidemic was probably not a natural event, as the genetic sequence of the virus was nearly identical to the sequences of decades-old strains.

    In 1977, an H1N1 influenza virus appeared and circled the globe. Colloquially referred to as the “Russian flu,” as the USSR was the first to report the outbreak to the World Health Organization (WHO), the 1977 strain was actually isolated in Tientsin, Liaoning, and Jilin, China, almost simultaneously in May of that year.

    Indeed, outbreaks of A/USSR/90/77(H1N1) in military academies were described in official memos as “explosive”. The Royal Air Force in Upper Heyford, England, was first affected in January 1978, followed by the U.S. Air Force Academy (USAFA) in Colorado in February. The outbreak at the USAFA was so severe—over the course of 9 days, 76%, or 3,280 cadets, became ill—that all academic and military training was suspended. This was the “first such interruption in training due to influenza illness in the cadet population” .

  24. utu says:

    What about Russia? September 2019 explosion in VECTOR facility in Russia.

    [MORE]

    What happened after an explosion at a Russian disease research lab called VECTOR?
    https://thebulletin.org/2019/11/what-happened-after-an-explosion-at-a-russian-disease-research-lab-called-vector/

    The World Health Organization-led international inspection team last visited VECTOR in February 2019, and while the report from the inspection is still in review, previous inspection reports have found that VECTOR meets international standards of biosafety and biosecurity for smallpox research.

    Today, research at VECTOR is focused on studying the properties of highly contagious pathogens like HIV, Marburg, Ebola, influenza, and measles, and on developing vaccines and antiviral treatments against infections, including those resulting from genetically engineered viruses.

    Novosibirsk: ‘No risk’ after blast and fire at Russian lethal virus lab (17 September 2019)
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49727101?piano-modal

    In May 2004 a scientist working in a Vektor lab at Koltsovo died after accidentally jabbing her left hand with a syringe containing Ebola.

    Kommersant described the facility as a “military installation”, surrounded by a barbed-wire fence and armed guards in watchtowers.

    Tailored intelligence to detect unusual epidemic activity following the explosion at Vector, Russia (31 Aug 2020)
    C Raina MacIntyre , Xin Chen, Mohana Kunasekaran, Anjali Kannan, Veethika Nayak, Khulan Bayaraa, Elena Sitnikova, Phi Yen Nguyen, Tracey German
    https://jglobalbiosecurity.com/articles/10.31646/gbio.85/

    There were some unexplained outbreaks in Russia in the three months following the explosion.

    We detected an accidental release of brucella from a laboratory in China in early December 2019 and two reports of severe pneumonia prior to official reports, which could have been early COVID-19 cases.

    C Raina MacIntyre wrote paper on epidemiology of MERS that according to her strongly suggested artificial origins.

    • Replies: @anonym25
  25. Somewhat relevant to the topic but honestly, COVID is not that big of an issue. Yes its a worldwide virus but its honestly too ineffective to be a bioweapon or a serious pandemic. It is still around 1.5 years after its debut and will continue to exist for the forseeable future. That is true of every virus.

    Every virus continues to exist. SARS and Ebola didn’t vanish into the ether. Every virus over time mutates into benign forms or the people just grow immunity to it.

    Yet, the reaction to this mild disease has been so extreme that it beggars belief and invited suspicion.

    Every year millions of people die from the flu but the whole economy isn’t shut down and you’re not forced to take experimental vaccines because of it.

    Covid in two years has killed 3.9 million people worldwide out of a global population of 7.9 billion. That’s .0498% of the global population killed in 18 months.

    Compare that with the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic that killed 50 million people over a period of 26 months. The global population back then was 1.8 billion, meaning it killed 2.77% of the world population in 26 months.

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    It was a vastly more deadly virus than covid but it did not result in mass lockdowns and shutdown of the economy. The governments and megacorps didn’t roll out an experimental vaccine and coerce people to take it.

    COVID falls within the critea of an acceptable risk. Yes it can cause death but the possiblity is light enough to take the risk. Its just like plane accidents. The risk is there but its low enough to continue on as normal regardless.

    95% of people who died are above the age of 60 and already had co-morbidies. The vast majority of deaths also happened to obese people. Meaning that people who are not old and sicklly have little to fear from it. Its an acceptable risk.

    And as far as the vaccine is concerned, the average time it takes to create a safe vaccine and complete all the trials is 10 years. Yet, the COVID vaccine is supposedly functional in just two years? The pfizer vaccine hasn’t even completed stage 3 trials yet.

    They’ve researched the flu vaccine for 60 years and resultant product only has a 50% efficacy rate. But somehow a rushed vaccine in two years is 99% effective? Do you know that the majority of people who are affected now in England are vaccinated people?

    This virus mania really reveals two things about people:

    A. How the educated middle class are brainwashed muppets who’ll believe anything the media tells them.

    B. Bourgeois narcissim. The modern professional class is so comfortable and averse to danger that they’ll raise hell over the slightest risk.

    In the very best case, this is a corporate cash grab in which the people are being used a guinea pigs. The worst case is far too terrible to speak of.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @MarkU
  26. Half Back says:

    Good article Ron. You never get a smoking gun- so you must see whats a best fit.

  27. anonym25 says:

    Also, the ex-MI6 director Richard Dearlove jumped in the controversy pointing to the Wuhan lab leak back in may – june 2020. It is precisely him who delivered fake evidence to the Bush administration to justify the Iraq war in 2003. All the ingredients for another false flag operation are present and yet no one has taken that into account here in the west. Furthermore, the Wuhan lab leak theory is now prevalent among US citizens without even questioning the motivation behind this abrupt switch.

    Similarly, Murdoch’s media empire and other English tabloids, such as The Sun, The Daily Maily and the Times, have been relentless in blaming China for the virus since day one, deforming people’s perception in order to manufacture consent. And the western media have with unswerving fealty embraced in lockstep the Anglo-Saxon narrative while they have crushed dissent that strayed from the adopted official storyline with deadly efficiency. Meanwhile, the China propaganda has been lackluster and has even encouraged some to consider their views towards China in a negative light.

    If I may politely suggest to Ron Unz, he should seriously contemplate a collaboration between the usual suspects in this sordid affair, that is, the five-eyes nations, not only the US, and Israel because they’ve been scratching each other’s back to protect any suspicions that could hint at their involvement.

  28. While no-one can deny the existence of biological warfare and the research thereinto, I shall await the fullfilment of Koch/Rivers’s Postulate/s before I accept in the possibility that this Covert1984 scamdemic exists anywhere outside of computer simulations. Instead I reflect that Coca Cola $cie recently replaced a lot of sugar with aspartame* to circumvent sugar taxes. Compare the “symptom list” with covidiocy…another brand new “additive” being investigated.

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    This whole mess revolves mainly around mass psychology, even their “scientific consensus” papers are written by professional disseminators; psychologsts and oncologists and economists.
    I admit to doing the author the disservice of skimming those parts familiar from his earlier work, which I did read. If I missed the part where he pointed out the symbology and modus operandus of the Protocols of Zion, I apologise.
    To sum: This is a Virtual Reality pandemic being exploited to furtherance of The Protocols. All the “solutions” we are being offered is in the spirit of the crowning of the One King. Hell, the Rockefeller Institute even “predict” that we will “arise spontaneously after 13 years of the pandemic response …” against the tyrranical rule our leaders usurped unto themselves in response to the ‘pandemic’.
    Just like The Protocols demand:
    P3v15: “Ever since that time we have been leading the peoples from one disenchantment to another, so that in the end they should turn also from us in favour of that king-despot …whom we are preparing for the world.”
    Notice how the Baal Gateses and Klaus Schwabs suddenly became universally hated? Suddenly “we know” who is funding all that dangerous research, and profiting thereby…suddenly Palestinian lives matter.

  29. These articles have established our publication as one of the very few venues open to such controversial ideas.

    … and you are to be commended for your courage in daring to speak out.

    …there exists strong even overwhelming evidence that the worldwide Covid epidemic was caused by an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably by rogue elements of our national security establishment associated with the Deep State Neocons near the top of the Trump Administration.

    IMO you are spot-on with this assessment – if you need a nasty bug to screw over a strategic competitor with plausible deniability, who you gonna call?

    Of course, that deniability becomes less plausible when you have a massive military-industrial network of bioweapon labs sprinkled all around the world and especially concentrated around the borders of your strategic competitors.

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    According to our standard timeline, the Covid virus probably first appeared in Wuhan between mid-October and mid-November of 2019…

    It’s around this area that your otherwise compelling and admittedly very comprehensive analysis seems to encounter a blind spot. I sense an elephant sitting quietly in a dark corner of the room, seemingly unnoticed and entirely disregarded, even deliberately ignored, by the investigative sleuth.

    Please be warned that discussion of Flu Hoaxery, anti-Vaxxery, unorthodox medical cures, or similar tangential issues are likely to be regarded as seriously off-topic…

    Your analysis does make an attempt (and a persuasive one, I might add) to correlate motive with both the means and incriminating evidence to finger elements of the American establishment for the Corona Chan “pandemic” – to quote once more:

    …probably by rogue elements of our national security establishment associated with the Deep State Neocons near the top of the Trump Administration.

    So consideration of “motive and means” (and presumably, opportunity) is an important part of your analysis on the origins of Corona Chan. It’s an on-topic area for this subject.

    According to our standard timeline, the Covid virus probably first appeared in Wuhan between mid-October and mid-November of 2019…

    Consider Event 201, a “coronavirus pandemic” simulation conducted on 18 October 2019 by the Davos crowd, most specifically by the Gates’ Foundation and the World Economic Forum and a gaggle of effectively subordinate medical and regulatory agencies from around the world.

    The near-universally coordinated policy response of the Western world to Corona Chan now has us marching in lockstep towards Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset.

    For the teeming lemmings trapped in this madness all across the Western world, our real and present danger is being forcefully poisoned by bioweapons disguised as “vaccines”, while being herded into a dystopian future where everyone is microchipped, and to quote Uncle Klaus, “we will all own nothing and be happy”.

    In considering the means, motives and opportunities for the genesis and propagation of Corona Chan around the planet, the pool of suspects is expansive. The bioweapon labs provide the means – to both the Neocons and the Globalists like creepy Bill and Uncle Klaus, and let’s not overlook that creepy Bill’s Mini-Me Fauci has been up to his neck in (plausibly deniable) bioweapons research.

    As to the underlying purpose of Corona Chan, whose agenda is actually in play – the Neocons or the Globalists? Wheels within wheels.

    • Thanks: Kali
  30. Another exceptionally well put together article from Ron Unz although I suspect a dinner conversation with him would tend to be a tedious affair.

    • LOL: Carroll Price
  31. I bought the idea at first that COVID was a bioweapon developed by the US to cripple China. But now that theory doesn’t seem sound anymore.

    1st of all, if that was the case and the US treated it as a bioweapon to start wtih, why didn’t they close travel with China in January or february of 2020? Trump suggested it and they responded with accusations of fascism and how borders don’t stop diseases apparently.

    If its truly this terrifying weapon, then the American elite which is disproportionately old should fear it more than anyone else. They would’ve been willing to close the borders at the first chance.

    Second, if the plan is to slow down China or to build a global consensus against it, it would stand to logic that the US elites would seek to decouple from China using COVID as an excuse. They’d call the Chinese evil communists trying to destroy the world economy and sanction her or place tarrifs on her.

    Instead the opposite has happened. US-China trade has reached record highs and Blackrock, the Jewish bank that owns the world is making huge breakthroughs in China’s formerly opaque market.

    https://www.silkroadbriefing.com/news/2020/09/18/foreign-investment-into-china-increases-by-us90-billion-in-2020-ytd/

    https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/blackrock-wins-chinese-regulatory-approval-onshore-mutual-fund-business-2021-06-11/

    Here’s the ”patriots” of the CCP giving Larry Fink the greenlight to plunder 15 trillion dollars worth of Chinese savings.

    [MORE]

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-11/blackrock-receives-nod-to-start-china-mutual-fund-business#:~:text=Investable%20assets%20in%20China%20are,globally%20as%20of%20March%2031.

    US trade deficit with China has GROWN, not shrunk in the course of the COVID pandemic. What sort of sabotage is this?

    If you want to destroy your rival why would you allow your banks to open shop there and allow them to increase trade deficit with you?

    Plus, if you’re worried about Chinese dominance, why would you allow hordes of Chinese migrants to swap the US? Why would you want your enemy nationals to fill your universities and steal scientific data?

    https://www.timesrecordnews.com/story/news/local/2020/01/03/net-immigration-us-lowest-decade-china-tops-migrants/2804697001/

    China is no. 1 source of migrants in the U now.

    3rd, Why did the media flip flop on the narrative? If this was the plan to start with, then the logical course for the media would’ve been to pounce on the wuhan lab leak theory from the get go. Instead they villified and attacked anyone who suggested this and rigidly maintained that it was natural.

    They did the opposite and they rigidly defended China’s reputation all throughout 2020. Only now are they making soft noises about lab leak theory.

    My guess is that the Chinese were researching on the disease in Wuhan but it leaked. The CCP took decisive measures at first but laxed its muscles once it saw COVID wasn’t that big of a threat. The US elite capitalized on the pandemic to push through all their pet dystopian projects: the great reset, green new deal, digital identity etc.

    A lot of these theories defending China’s honor stems from an idea in dissident circles that China is this bastion of sovereignty. The CCP is patriotic and cares for China’s interests. Well China is rapidly liberalizing its financial sector and Jewish finance is making huge inroads there.
    https://business.cornell.edu/hub/2020/05/11/chinas-financial-liberalization/

    And as for honorable and patriotic, here’s the CCP pimping their women out to black students.

    • Thanks: Stan d Mute
  32. laodan says: • Website

    Thanks for this master piece.

    The reality is that no other country comes even close to the US excellence in the field of propaganda. Not only is the US mastering the narrative it also masters its diffusion channels…

    In this very particular context the ABC News story of 9 April 2020, about a report produced by the military’s National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) which is a component of the Pentagon’s DIA, was a confirmation of the 8 April 2020 news by “Israeli television Channel 12 news” as it was reported a few days later by The Times of Israel :

    ” US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the corona-virus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday. According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document.“

    This News story, initiated by the “Israeli television Channel 12 news” that was reported on by the Times of Israel and confirmed by ABC News, has implications indeed …that are rather obvious as you write.

    But what is most interesting is how the Chinese authorities themselves were perceiving the situation. I write about this in “A first societal blow in Late-Modernity. 2.3.3. How do things stand in the eyes of the Chinese authorities ?

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  33. Mr Unz, you will be very interested in the testimony given recently by Dr David Martin, an expert on patents, to the Stifftung Corona Ausschuss (Corona Investigative Committee) led by Dr Reiner Füllmich:

  34. @Ron Unz

    Does anyone know why the herring is red?

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @barn moose
  35. Olger says:

    The wastewater sample from Brazil from November 27th, 2019 was found in Santa Catarina, not Santa Catalina. It has an R, not an L. This is the state (and the island) to which the city where samples were collected, Florianopolis, belongs.

    Just because the (Brazilian) authors of the original preprint misspelt the name of their own state in the title does not mean that we have to perpetuate the typo. Incidentally, it gives even less credibility to their unpublished work. Just hover over the names of the first authors to see their official affiliations for confirmation purposes. Or look at the very first comment on medRxiv by a certain “Igor”. Or look at the South China Morning Post article that you reference: at least, Chinese journalists know how to spell the names of Brazilian states correctly…

    • Replies: @thotmonger
  36. clickkid says:

    “If thousands of Americans had become infected with Covid by mid-2019, the total would have reached many tens of millions by the end of the year..”

    Germany had 1.76 million ‘cases’ in 2020 with no impact on overall mortality.

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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4tzAUQX0AIOvWv?format=jpg&name=4096×4096

    Sars-Cov-2 was very likely present in those countries where blood samples and waste waster analysis indicates it was present – in 2019. The reason it wasn’t conspicuous is because it had no effect on overall mortality – as the German data shows.

    In my opinion the mortality spikes witnessed in March/April of 2020 are much more easily explained by the social and economic dislocation of lockdown and associated measures. This is supported by the strong positive correlation between the severity of lockdown measures and the death rate in the period immediately following the imposition of lockdown, and also by the narrow and sharp mortality curve, which differs completely from the slowly developing hump of mortality typically seen as an infection moves organically through a population.

    Robert Henderson, who led the effort to eradicate smallpox, wrote this:

    “Experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted. Strong political and public health leadership to provide reassurance and to ensure that needed medical care services are provided are critical elements. If either is seen to be less than optimal, a manageable epidemic could move toward catastrophe.”

    https://www.aier.org/article/how-a-free-society-deals-with-pandemics-according-to-legendary-epidemiologist-and-smallpox-eradicator-donald-henderson/

    This is exactly what happened in March/April 2020.

    I agree with Ron Unz that ‘something else’ very likely happened in Iran.

  37. anon[294] • Disclaimer says:

    The challenge Washington now has is to convince Americans that THIS time it’s telling the truth.

  38. I can go with your conclusion that this began with a deliberate attack on China for economic reasons. I’ll even play along with your total mortality figures. This all comes off the rails however when we see the NET results of the entire affair.

    Hundreds of millions of perfectly healthy people were imprisoned as if pre-trial detainees under electronic home monitoring awaiting a murder trial. There was never a medical justification for this. It’s unprecedented.

    Obviously our dear leaders will take advantage of any crisis, but there was far too much collusion and all in the same direction. I think it’s at least as plausible that this was not an attack on China, but on the deplorables in America who were about to re-elect literally hitler.

    It’s also interesting that one of the best attacks on the fiasco now comes from The Tablet. We’ve never seen any other cases where that cohort is first to blame others for their own behaviors.. (https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-war-on-reality-gutentag)

  39. Dumbo says:

    Meanwhile, these same critics have entirely ignored the very real evidence that individuals he had placed in authority had carried out exceptionally reckless biowarfare attacks against China and Iran, with the unintended blowback consequences devastating our own society and killing many hundreds of thousands of our citizens.

    Typical American solipsism. The disease, whatever it is caused by, affected much more than China, Iran and the U.S. as “blowback”. All countries in the world were affected one way or another.

    I find it very, very hard to believe that whoever created or spread this disease didn’t know that, or at least wasn’t strongly aware of such possibility.

    Therefore, the conclusion is that this was not an “attack on Iran or China”, but a global operation from the start.

    In the meantime, while lines and lines are wasted on a secondary issue located in the past, what about the future? Why no discussion of vaccines, vaccine passports, tracking technology, the apparent new resurgence of the virus, all the new forms of control, the new “pandemic society” that is slowly being formed?

    It’s like discussing 9/11 and not mentioning the Patriot Act, the Iraq/Afghan war, the changes to air travel, etc.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @JH9
    , @Rahan
  40. Alfred says:

    French researchers said they found traces of covid-19 in Nov 2019…scientists from National Cancer Institute of Milan and University of Siena found 10% of blood samples from a cancer screening trial contained COVID antibodies… samples included some from Sept 2019.

    COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  41. Lee says:

    Fair enough.

    So let’s just advise everyone to NOT read this 13K word article since comments about it are to be restricted.

  42. Jamesc says:

    @Ron Unz

    Ron, this is a side issue, but I am very interested in what was going at the Wuhan Lab.

    My understanding is that the US were very closely involved in the research, having trained some of the Chinese researchers in the US.

    They also funded some of it, and although the amounts were only token, it suggests further cooperation and involvement.

    My question is why they were doing this. One supposed reason is that the US were off-shoring banned research.

    That might be part of the reason, but surely, they had dozens of other labs that they could have used.

    Then, why would they want to share this research with China? I really don’t see any obvious reason, so it seems likely to me that they had some reason based on intelligence and spying.

    One obvious motive would be to get close to Chinese scientists.

    Another would be to establish a paper trail for viruses. For example, US researchers could direct the Chinese to develop a particular virus in Wuhan. The Chinese would sequence it and then the US researchers could prouduce the virus is secret in their own labs, there being no need for the virus ever to leave Wuhan.

    So, Wuhan would give the US deniability.

    I wonder what other people think

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  43. Alfred says:

    The circumstantial evidence suggesting that America (or its Israeli partner) had deployed Covid against Iran’s leadership class in Qom seemed so strong, I found it puzzling that the Iranians themselves had apparently not drawn those same conclusions and publicly denounced what had occurred.

    You underestimate how smart the Iranians are. They don’t think like the Neocons. They are playing the long game – as are Russia and China. They are biding their time. They didn’t want Netanyahu to tell his people how smart he is – like after 9/11.

    Netanyahu Says 9/11 Good for Israel – Ahmadinejad Calls 9/11

    Youtube has pulled the video. That proves that the video was an embarrassment.

    • Thanks: GMC
  44. MLK says:

    Many, perhaps most individuals are quite reluctant to embrace any theory not blessed by their personal figures of authority, whether these be the editors of the New York Times or the pundits of FoxNews. Only a small minority of the population is willing to cross such ideological boundaries and risk the stinging epithet of being labeled “a conspiracy theorist.”

    As we’ve seen, there are many rhetorical cudgels deployed, not just the conspiracy theorist label. I smiled and thought of this author’s jaw-dropping lack of self-awareness further in my reading of this article. Exactly here, with this middle-schooler reveal after all was said and done:

    In effect, what happened was a Dr. Strangelove-type scenario, but brought to real life.

    Look, grand conspiracies are not puzzles that can be solved. They are phenomena in motion, as the relevant players struggle offensively and defensively. Thus they are coalitions of the willing and unwilling, with comments like the one you cite from Putin signaling a partial resolve, or at least his part of a bargain.

    If you can’t yet see that anyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic, was committed to “Trump Must Go!” by any means necessary then you never will. The psychology of this has fascinated me since Trump won in 2016. Not to put to fine a point on it, but it’s driven by unbounded resentment toward the man that leads smart people to latch onto anything anti-Trump to make them fell better about themselves.

    If you’re still shouting at the absurdity of anyone going out of their way to destroy and remove Trump you’re well and truly lost. You don’t have to admit you were wrong about the man only, finally, believe your lying eyes.

    As deeply unsatisfying as it is, especially for Deputy Dawgs like this author, accept that high-level conspiracies like the Kennedy Assassination and the myriad malefactions against Trump, occur because a critical mass of interested parties share the objective and are willing to or have been prevailed upon to participate or acquiesce.

    As 2019 was ending, Trump was on track for reelection in a landslide. Pelosi pulled the trigger on Impeachment yet held back transmittal to the Senate for trial, almost as if she was waiting for something to happen that would lead to his conviction and removal by RINO and NeoCon filth in her pocket. Say, like, a pitch perfect replay of the Iranian Hostage Crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection prospects. After that op was neutralized by putting Soleimani down, we were off to the races with the Covid . . .

    • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @utu
    , @I'm Goygeous
  45. Anon[401] • Disclaimer says:

    “Unchallenged Orientalism”
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/why-liberals-suddenly-love-lab-leak-theory/277882/

    A Toxic ‘Infodemic’: The Viral Spread Of COVID-19 Conspiracy Theories
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-social-media_n_5e83d701c5b6a1bb764f6d3b

    Methods for producing recombinant coronavirus
    https://patents.google.com/patent/US7279327B2/en

    Pirbright Institute does not have patent for a COVID-19 vaccine
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pirbright-patent-covid-19-idUSKCN2521X4

    False claim: “the Coronavirus” is designed and any vaccine that is developed could infect you with the disease
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-coronavirus-vaccine-design-idUSKBN20W2FB

    Coronavirus
    https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701

    A patent for the coronavirus spreading in Wuhan was not applied for in 2015
    https://fullfact.org/online/wuhan-virus-patent-gates/

  46. No. Lost me about half way. My money is on Ft Dietrich with some Canadian lab and maybe a bit of outsourced details to Wuhan and others. Fauci has been funding this project to the tune of 191 billion dollars since the nineties and more than 100 patents directly lead to what we have now. It is not novel, every aspect of this thing has been patented for 20 years.

    Here, chew collectively on the staggering implications of this.

    [MORE]

    https://catherineedwards.life/aiovg_videos/a-manufactured-illusion-dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich-9-7-21/

    One interesting detail, though only my anecdotal evidence. I am certain I had this thing in July/August 2019, in Perth, Western Australia where I live. Nor was I the only one. I know people in Europe who also had the same symptoms. It was notable to me as the first viral infection I have had in 38 years. It hit me very hard, I’m 58 now and had a couple of heart attacks though nothing wrong in that respect anymore. I did end up with severe pneumonia. This was cured overnight when I finally went to the doctor. Notably he was concerned about a shadow on y lungs showing up in scans. I chose to ignore it. He was uncertain of what I had also. Now I am sure it’s unique immune avoiding ability is why I got it but the timing is interesting. There were also five strains found in the USA when but one in China was known by the way.

  47. Rich says:

    When we look at the psychopaths that run this country, this horrible idea is actually plausible. If some idiots in our national security apparatus thought spreading a disease in China to slow economic activity might work, I could see them eagerly agreeing to it. Right up to the president. Israel’s massive vaccination campaign, faster and more complete than most, if not all, other countries, could also be an indication they were afraid of an Iranian response. I don’t want to believe our government would engage in this kind of insanity, and it’s probably unprovable, but with the terrible leadership America has had for the last 40 or even 60 years, this crime is very possible.

  48. Ron Unz says:
    @James Forrestal

    Let’s do a quick CTRL-F analysis:
    “Bioweapon” appears a remarkable 21 times.
    “Gain of function?” zero
    “Daszak” zero
    “Baric” zero
    “PREDICT” zero
    “USAID” zero
    “NIAID,” “NIH,” “Fauci” — also zero

    Based upon your foolish complaint, I have now added a previous comment of mine to the “Conspiracy Theories” section.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#diverting-conspiracy-theorists-into-dead-ends

    “Gain of Function” is simply the technical term for the enhancement of viruses, and a standard technique in the production of bioweapons, both of which I had substantially discussed in my text. I saw no particular reason to use that euphemism, although it has now been popularized by the talking-heads on cable.

    On a different matter, Ebright now claims that he suspected Covid had leaked from the Wuhan lab “a nanosecond” after he heard about the outbreak, and also that had always been very worried about the lab’s work creating chimeric viruses such as Covid, clearly indicating that he believed it was probably bioengineered.

    Yet he immediately became the loudest scientific voice shouting “there is no indication whatsoever that it was an engineered virus.” That appears entirely contrary to his more recent public position.

    As Wade emphasizes, none of the major facts have changed over the last year, but very many public positions have completely reversed.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  49. Ron Unz says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    I’ll add to the conspiracy theory. What if agents of the US military were inoculated with this vaccine and were asymptomatic carriers of the virus?

    That seems very unlikely to me, not only because there’s no evidence any vaccine was available at that point.

    Releasing a bioweapon can be done much more effectively than sending out infected individual to cough into the faces of random people on the street. As I emphasized, there’s no evidence that any of our 300 military service at the Wuhan Games were themselves infected. They probably just provided cover for us to slip a couple of operatives into the delegation, and have them surreptitiously release the virus.

  50. Ron Unz says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Feb. 25, 2021: “Positive COVID-19 samples had been reported earlier than those officially accepted by health authorities in other countries, such as France and Italy…The CDC found Covid endemic in the US in December, 2019, and on June 23, 2021

    You are just an incompetent pro-China propagandist and as usual, your claims are total garbage. Apparently you were too lazy to even bother noticing that my new article included an entire section debunking the nonsense you have been promoting for the past year:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

    • Agree: TKK
    • Thanks: Kramer
    • Troll: Godfree Roberts
    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  51. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    Anyway David Baltimore changed or significantly qualified his opinion in June 2021…So it appears that there are no scientists who would unequivocally and publicly support artificial origin of the COvid-19 virus. Luc Montagnier who lost his marbles long time ago does not count.

    I assume Baltimore is a quiet academic and his “revised” position reflects his desire to avoid being in the middle of a very heated public debate with international ramifications. When Twitter-mobs are yelling at you, it’s hardly surprising that you back off a bit. Didn’t those emails show that Kristian Andersen also thought that the virus was clearly artificial? He then became the leading figure on the other side, presumably to deflect the biowarfare accusations against China, deploying very fallacious arguments. In this sort of heated public controversy I consider early views and private ones more likely to be honest than latter, public ones.

    As I understand it the construction of the phylogenetic tree as a mathematical problem has no unique solution. That one solution is produced it is because of constraints that sometimes can be invalid or arbitrary…One reason that you won’t get biologists discussing too much the phylogenetic tree ambiguities is because the practitioners do not understand methodology too well. They use mathematical idiot proofed packages that were written by mathematicians.

    That seems pretty plausible to me. However, I’d really prefer seeing some public discussion of the issue, instead of just ignoring it entirely, thereby leaving the door open to what seem likely to be misleading uses of the analysis by highly-interested parties.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @last straw
  52. RudyM says:
    @Simon Tugmutton

    I am still making my way through this presentation by David Martin, and it is quite mind-blowing, and obviously very relevant to the topic at hand. So far one of the most crucial bits of information is that the spike protein as a novel feature for a coronavirus was already identified and studied twenty years ago. The “novel coronavirus” looks less and less novel over time.

    I have not read most of what Ron has written about Covid-19, because when I see the truly global extent of draconian Covid-19 “responses,” it leads me to think he is on the wrong track in thinking this was something aimed at specific nations. This looks like it is about a much broader transformation than that. In general, I have not found Unz.com very useful on Covid-19 issues, and have founded myself relying heavily on blogs specifically devoted to the subject of Covid-19. Again, trying to fit Covid-19 into a framework of a state actor (however rogue) targeting multiple other states just doesn’t cut it. This looks like a truly globalist conspiracy. And one thing the American Pravda series has taught us is that while Ron is brilliant, he can be really slow on the uptake. He’s given us lots of examples of this.

    As someone who recently face the threat of a vaccine mandate at work (something which is fortunately off the table for now), I reserve the right to focus on the dangers of the genuinely novel, incredibly dangerous “vaccines,” which surely seem to be much closer to the core goal of the Covid-19 event than disruptions of specific countries.

  53. Avery says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    {… but the warning to censor...}

    Will you guys please stop it already with the ‘censor’ complaints?

    There is no such thing as censorship for a private site.
    Censorship applies to the Government.
    This is a private enterprise: financed and run by Ron Unz.
    He sets the rules, which in my opinion are extremely generous.
    But it can’t be totally free-for-all where you can post anything you want: there are a lot of crazy people in the blogosphere. Without some rules moderating posters, the site would quickly deteriorate into chaos, and Ron would have to shut it down.

    Nobody pays to have access to this site, so nobody has any rights to complain about anything. Just be happy that a site such as this exists.

    • Agree: Poco, Sarah, CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Yevardian
  54. So who exactly within the American bio-warfare military structure would have the ability to organize such an attack? Mike Pompeo? John Bolton? The CIA?

    There’s something else to consider. COVID19 was the perfect excuse to justify a postal vote election. And large scale postal voting with lax oversight was the environment that allowed the Democrats to deploy massive ballot harvesting and thereby ensure the removal of Donald Trump.

    Was the intention of releasing COVID19 just to hurt China? Or was the CIA more concerned that a re-elected Donald Trump would finally make some wise appointments and thereby succeed in exposing the CIA’s pattern of astonishing criminal behavior?

    The CIA was involved both in illegally trying to stop Trump winning in 2016, and then in illegally trying to have him removed after he won.

    Would they release a deadly virus to help cover up their own crimes?

    • Replies: @SkyBot
  55. MarkU says:
    @Anonymous

    I agree. Whenever a narrative is being pushed, especially prior to investigation, then it is almost certain that the deep state is the real culprit. Unfortunately first impressions tend to be decisive and seem to persist even after the alleged evidence has failed to materialise and even when the initial claims have been debunked.

  56. TKK says:

    Also, we can never underestimate the shocking timing – unprecedented! – of the American government embracing UFOs and the belief in alien life in the middle of the pandemic.

    Even their mascot Obama was trotted out to support it. One can’t underestimate how bizarre this is.

    What reason would the Department of Defense have to start releasing grainy black and white footage of small lights in the sky now? It’s circumstantial evidence, but powerful.

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
  57. @utu

    … while Deigin (mathematician) is a puzzle but his bio (is in one of my comments) indicates that he is a hustler.

    There’s nothing particularly opaque about Deigin. His social media accounts are open and he’s an active member of the Moscow transhumanism/life extension community.

    His current company: http://youthereum.ca/ (Aubrey de Grey and Josh Mitteldorf on the list of advisors, these are big endorsements in this sphere).

    This pandemic has revealed that there are plenty of charlatans amongst professional epidemiologists. Mathematicians and physicists do better epidemiology, just as they do better history.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @utu
    , @utu
  58. Dumbo says:
    @Caspar von Everec

    “Don’t think of it as a bad sign”

    LOL. “Just close your eyes and think of England.”

    The vast majority of deaths also happened to obese people.

    Perhaps just fat people should have been tested and/or vaccinated?

    Perhaps it was a bioweapon against obese people? But in that case, China would have a clear advantage over America. So this is another strike against the “bioweapon” theory. Why would Americans create a bioweapon virus that overwhelmingly affects obese people?? That’s suicide right there. Not so many fatties in China or Iran, compared to the US.

    • Agree: Godfree Roberts
  59. skrik says:

    G’day Mr Unz,

    I’m not a virologist. I’m up to your section on EVALI. I’ve mentioned it before, but you have until now brushed it away, but I’ll propose it again:

    1. EVALI could have been a test of a CoV-2 precursor *before* PRRA was inserted = v.low infectivity;

    2. “No trace of Covid antibodies” is a ‘der’ since CoV-2 was at that time unknown; how could one test for an unknown?

    3. The EVALI graphs may parallel E-vaping use, mostly by young nicotine-addict idiots, hence no or v.few old casualties.

    4. Since CoV-2 is a chimera, EVALI could also have been a chimera, containing the CoV-2 spike minus PRRA with some another ‘backbone’ virus including harmful CoV-2 components as a test but which would not raise suspicion, plus who would research lung-fluid samples [CDC, say, and how corrupt are they?]

    5. We needn’t theorise a Ft. Detrick lab-leak; EVALI could have been caused by a deliberately tainted E-vaping input fluid batch, distributed by mail-order, say.

    Just saying. rgds

  60. Stephane says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Actually no, the J&J is an adenovirus-vectored vaccine, similar to russian Sputnik.

    It use a human adenovirus altered to be unable to replicate in humans to deliver an ADN string encoding for the spike protein (or maybe a slightly altered version of it) in cells to trigger an immune response.

  61. @Ron Unz

    I recall a report of a half dozen US troops at Wuhan who did fall ill with “severe flu like symptoms” and were put into local hospital care. Then the story changed the very next day to Malaria. For which no doubt they were given Quinine. Malaria is of course a stupid tale. They’d just come from Maryland where they were training next door to that very infamous lab. Similar time to it’s shut down. I can see if I can find reference to this but it may well be scrubbed by now and I have no recollection of where I read it. Only that it was very early reporting. When often the most critical details of these things does slip past the media’s grasp. In the same way back in Port Arthur I recalled reading in the local newspaper both the serial number guns Bryant supposedly used were listed as destroyed after surrender during a previous gun amnesty. Directly implying police involvement of course. I know the journalist on that got put onto another case the next day and never a word was heard again. The source was actually a high ranking Tasmanian cop too. The fact that story got buried so fast was all I needed at the time to know Port Arthur was more bullshit. What is sad is how few people can see past it or even resist slavery when it is all said and done.

    [MORE]

    Quinine which by the way I knew was effective and bought a good supply from India just before sales got shut down. A Chinese paper tipped us off. It took me a while to find out what it was about though because the discovery quinine and zinc cures all corona-viruses in 4-6 days was made in 2005 and thoroughly tested since. This info was hidden and lied about as I expected it would be since the Plandemic got underway. It is still online, just do a search and exclude all dates after 2018. A ‘vaccine’ was always the obvious agenda and to get it I knew they’d have to suppress any cures. I guessed right. So I have enough cures for 100 people from any corona-virus now and I’ve sat back and watched the pantomime about quinine playing out, once again with incredulity.

    By the way quinine/zinc is a more sensitive subject even than COVID. Since all bio-weapons research has been around corona-viruses since the seventies, this combination makes it all redundant by my estimation. They certainly knew about it. The Australian mining industry was informed early in 2020 that it worked, how to use it and were advised to stock it. I happen to know people in admin of some big mining companies up north. They have towns and islands to administer and considered essential industry were kept updated in real time. One thing, for all their critical nature. None of those towns or facilities instituted masks, lock-downs or social distancing. That kind of raises it’s own questions. Or answers some. It is all bullshit and has become so insane I’m pretty sure zombies are just around the next bend in the road. I can even predict the mechanism by which they’ll go zombie. While the masks is a surprise the biggest one was the realisation they’ll probably be faster than movies depict. No reason to assume that most will lose their mobility before their brains and being slower than I was in my youth this does spoil the vision a bit. Fast zombies not as much fun as the slow kind I bet.

  62. A USA bioweapon (aimed at China/Iran) origin of Covid 19 theory, is not contradicted by a Great Reset/Big Pharma theory, nor is it contradicted by information that indicates Covid 19 is in fact not that dangerous (see Portugal Supreme Court decision concerning lethality of Covid 19)

    A USA covid ‘lite’ could have been aimed at China, and another strain, ‘covid heavy’ could have been aimed at Iran. Because the second was more lethal it was also less infectious and would have mutated faster or died out.

    As part of the plan the bioweapon could have pushed forward the WEF Great Reset and the Great BigPharma moneymaking.

    Mr. Unz does not mention that Christian Drosten, who he cites without skepticism, was/is involved in the very important first formulation of the PCR test responsible for pushing the ‘casedemic’ and increasing the ‘died with Covid’ numbers, thus he is not a ‘disinterested party’ to the debate.

    Mr. Unz does not mention that the Chinese head of the Chinese CDC was an active participant of Event 201, the covid simulation event in the USA, in early october 2019 and was an author of the first scientific paper about Covid 19, and thus was obviously well placed…….

    All the world’s elite have an interest in harvesting biodata of the world population, not just for control but developing life extension and rejuvenation medical interventions……for elites. China and Russia don’t object to data harvesting of search engines, they do it themselves, so their elites recognize the advantage of harvesting bio data also.

    • Thanks: St-Germain
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  63. Paul2 says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Very interesting links, thanks.

    I think it likely that the whole “CoVid” crisis is a long and carefully planned, rehearsed, organized and orchestrated operation.

    I consider it likely there were one or more biological agents deliberately released at certain times at certain places for various purposes.

    At the same time the syndrome “CoVid-19” is often ill-defined, the detection methods used to indicate an “infection” (PCR tests) are fraudulent, and the official “case” and “death with or of” numbers are fraudulent and/or misleading.

    That means there does not necesserily exist a connection between the PCR tests and a real bio weapon used. Therefore possible early appearances of materials tested positive for “SARS-CoV-2” (the virus) or illnesses associated with “CoVid-19” (the syndrome) do not rule out the use of a bio weapon in 2020 (and possibly also later).

    I also consider it likely that — just as in the case with 9/11 — what could be seen as “blowback” is not blowback at all but something that was intended from the beginning as part of the overall plan.

    So two positions which may appear irreconcilable from one point of view may in fact be both correct, at least partially.

    • Agree: St-Germain
    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  64. onebornfree says: • Website

    Thinking about it, it seems to me that this entire article is just another , thinly disguised “argument from authority” type of deal, where the reader is supposed to assume (because Mr Unz himself does, and he’s, you know, Mr Unz after all),that:

    (1) the virus has been isolated and therefore it exists, and…

    (2) that the US is the sole culprit……

    When, at this point in time neither assumption can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt .

    Although I do myself strongly suspect that, virus or no virus, the US government was , at the very least, a major player in this ongoing worldwide criminal conspiracy.

    But unlike Unz, apparently, there is no way at this time that I can prove it to myself.

    But given the length of the article, and given the length of previous articles by him on the same subject with the exact same primary conclusion, it seems to me that there is definite agenda going on here.

    I wonder, what could that be?

    “Regards” onebornfree

  65. MarkU says:

    Diverting “Conspiracy Theorists” into Dead-Ends

    In the years following the 9/11 attacks, a vibrant movement of “conspiracy theorists” developed on the Internet, arguing that the true facts had been quite different than the official story, with most of them suggesting heavy American government involvement in those momentous events.

    Back then, the Internet was far less channeled and regulated than it eventually became, and few effective means existed for the political establishment to shut down such troubling discussions. So Harvard Law professor Cass Sunstein, soon to become a top Obama aide, shrewdly suggested that the activities of those energetic individuals could best be undermined and disrupted by means of “cognitive infiltration.” Agents of the government or its close allies should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader American public.

    This is something have been trying to get across to my fellow ‘conspiracy theorists’ for about two decades now (Kevin Barrett please take note) Critical faculties are meant to be used at all times, not just when one hears something disagreeable. It is folly to take anything on trust, even if the source claims to be on the side side as you.

  66. Thim says:

    Short version. Deep State created virus, uses it against China and Iran. While Trump is in, Deep State and its Mockingbird media hold to natural origin theory, so as not to help Trump politically, who was attempting to get political gain by blaming it on China. Trump now gone, Deep State pivots to Wuhan Lab theory, and instructs Mockingbird Media at its various levels, from journals, mags, newsrags, Facebook and the talmudvision to run with the Wuhan conspiracy theory.

    Unz only half agrees. Lab theory, check, but Wuhan Lab, wrong venue.

  67. pietro says:

    Complete revelation of all the papietrotents (77) from 1999 who own Corona, Sars, Covid19 and their therapies . Not natural.

  68. Poco says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s a sino-american virus. The chinese and americans were tinkering in collaboration and they let a little goblin loose and have been scrambling ever since. They don’t really know what to do but came up with some vaccines that they aren’t to sure of either. But hey, whatever it takes to muddy the waters (and make some money as a bonus.) Including half-heartedly pointing fingers at each other. Or claiming a natural phenomenon.

    • Replies: @pietro
    , @Triteleia Laxa
  69. IronForge says:

    The Incidents at Qom, IRN, may be the telltale Sign that “At least One Entity” was targeting IRNian Officials with it.

    *SARS2-COV being developed.

    *Gain of Function with Patented Components would allow for projection of Symptomatic Pathways.

    *Possibly Leaked/Stolen/Tested_as_Bioweapon in stages to see who it kills.

    *”At least One Entity” determined that it could be used as an effective Bioweapon against Elderly IRNian Leadership in Qom, since IRN are under restrictive Economic(read, ‘Medical’) Sanctions placed upon them by the USA+Vassals.

    *Released in different parts of the World, followed by a “Concentrated+Press-Narrative-Enabled Mass Release” in Wuhan using the Backdrops of City, Lab, Intl_Military_Olympics, and Market to make CHN bear the Blame as the Primary Nexus of the Outbreak…

    *CHNese Virologist who filed a Patent for a SARS2-COV Vaxx in early 2020 was Murdered
    soon thereafter.

    *Targeted Release in Qom.

    *Rest of World left to deal with COVID-19. Low Lethality – save for Elderly with Pre-existing Medical Conditions made it workable with PharmaCorps to include them via the Vaccine Production. Gates-WHO Conference make this look like a “Plandemic Fait Accompli”.

    *All Workable Treatments outside of the “Developing Vaxx” due to be released in Late 2020 were suppressed+censored in favor of the Future Vaxx.

    So Called 2-Week, then 2-Month Lockdown Policies to “Flatten the Curve” here were extended.

    @Ron Unz,

    I wouldn’t “write off” the early findings of 2019/2020 and Fort Dietrich (IIRC, theft were reported as well) so easily. Those Samples should be looked held on and looked into.

    SARS2-COV was used as a Targeted Bioweapon in Qom. That Implies for the Users to have already known of the Virus’ Baseline Symptoms.

    Too Many Players.
    Too Many Incompetents.
    Too Many Profiteers.
    Too Many Political Schemers.

    • Replies: @skrik
  70. @Beetlejuice

    “It is accepted now for instance that heterosexuals have no risk of getting AIDS.”
    Yes, sure. Heterosexuals have a special T-cell that protects them…. Thank God….

    • LOL: MarkU, Iris
  71. JH9 says:
    @Dumbo

    You believe you are very knowledgeable? Why not do this yourself and post it for public inspection?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  72. Tom Verso says:

    I think you have the cause and effect backwards.

    You write:

    I think part of the explanation may be found in an interesting exchange late last year on entirely different matters between prominent liberal journalists Matt Taibbi and Chris Hedges, formerly of Rolling Stone and the New York Times respectively.

    As they described it, working journalists greatly rely upon social media, especially if they are not directly affiliated with a major publication. And such individuals recognized that a few wrongly-chosen words can provoke a swarming Twitter lynch-mob, possibly leading to the deadly fate of deplatforming.

    So writers and their employers must necessarily exercise a great deal of self-censorship, fearful of the disastrous consequences of a careless sentence.

    Seriously?!?

    You think news media (effect) follows social media (cause).

    Rather, I should think, quite the oppossite!

    Social media is a mirror of the news media.

    News media (cause) creates public opinion (effect)
    Public opinion is manifest in social media (effect).

    You write:

    However, once Wade’s article appeared and began attracting some favorable discussion on social media, they (i.e. writers and their employers) gradually lost their fears and jumped on board, soon demonstrating that those views had been far more widespread than anyone realized.

    Seriously?!?

    A couple of virtually invisible articles in publications not know and never read by the masses of social media participants CAUSED the EFFECTual change in the public opinion of those masses and inturn CAUSED changes in mass media.
    ………….

    How about the very low hardly believable hypothesis:

    News media/economic/government oligarchs decided that it is their best interest to have a new Cold War with China and they have used Covid to create mass anti-China public opinion?

    I know that may seem far fetched to Taibbi, Hedges, et al …

    ……….

    Note:
    Matt Taibbi and Chris Hedges ramble incessantly on metaphorically about THE MEDIA!
    But, they never mention the names of the oligarchs who own the media.

    They talk about The Washington Post but not Jeff Bezos.

    Like Michael Hudson talking metaphorically about “The Fed” but never mentions Larry Fink.

    Society is not effected by institutions ( The media, The Fed, The Party, etc).
    Society is effected by individual decision makers.
    Social scientific analysis of society entails talking about individual decision makers.

  73. @Rabbitnexus

    @Ron Unz. I did a quick search for the story but no luck. It’s late here so I need to call it a day. I did recall though just now, I’m pretty sure I read about the sick troops in the Army Times or something like that. A dedicated US military journal.

    • Replies: @Anon62
  74. @Carlton Meyer

    Sorry, my link to the mRNA inventor expressing doubts about vaccine safety had the last letter cut. Here is the link to that short video.

    • Replies: @Cranberries
    , @skrik
  75. Having spent several of the past years with coronaviridae and viral vaccine experts, I never ever understood how now one cannot cope with the current status of our knowledge. That is, no herd immunity exists and it could hardly ever existed against coronaviridae. It is well known for practically the whole veterinary community.
    Speaking about legitimate human coronaviruses, their hyper-infective and benign versions have formed, yes, but they return and infect.
    Herd immunity could not have been a “secret antidote” of the syndicate or consortium that have developed SARS-CoV-2 and several of its test runs. (From the viral protein structures it seems very sharp minds worked relentlessly for decades on producing this one. Luc Montagnier was right “a very smart clockmaker`s product”.)
    I agree with Ron Unz that the most plausible explanation is an intentional release to reach some complicated network of aims. I can also well agree with Yoichi Shimatsu that the culprits could probably be found in those nations that have not participated at the military games in Wuhan, i.e. British, Israeli and Japanese.
    What still remains a mystery to me is if those who finally assembled the agent (Porton Down could be one production site) were ever developing a remedy, a therapeutic or an ‘antidote’. The S-protein is a well constructed trap. Vaccines and antibodies produced against that are doing the second ‘tap’ as in a double tap attack. One possible exemption could be adjuvanted protein subunit vaccines, but again immunity against coronaviridae is usually faint and short, even with miracle vaccines.
    So there must be some other agent at the hands or at least the minds of the “consortium” to prevent or cure the disease caused by their own creation. Ivermectin and resveratrol, the two known very potent general host-directed antivirals do not qualify, they are unspecific (though very effective here, too).
    Does anyone have any idea.

    • Replies: @Blackjack
  76. @Ron Unz

    I am psychologically invested in the credibility that UR derives from your arguments as I might have to admit to squandering my time were you to lose the prima facie credibility that you have earned over decades. Accordingly I am pleased to admit that your early description of the ABC report as a smoking gun (ipsissima verba I think) is almost vindicated. I still think you closed off your imagination too soon against the near certainty (and actuality) that the US had inside friends at Wuhan IV. As it happens it seems very likely that their presence provides just about the best evidence that error at WIV was not the cause of the pandemic. (But, en passant, what about the other Wuhan lab?).

    I cannot omit to note that you engaged in almost handwaving rationalisation when confronted with my challenge that you needed an explanation for China not exploiting your thesis or its own version of it. You explained that the Chinese knew they wouldn’t win the propaganda battle so would avoid it but I pointed out that the case didn’t have to be made by the Chinese themselves and you have now confirmed the correctness of the guess I proffered that China might be content to have the case raised by Iran or others as proxies.

    I have implicitly conceded that your smoking gun from ABC Radio and Israel TV could carry some weight although the original alternative explanations are not dead. Clearly the medical intelligence unit could have had enough motivation to make bricks with little straw. But I would also invite you to revisit the mathematics of the virus’s spread as I have jus glanced through a couple of articles from an elementary Googling for the rate of virus spread and this highlights the point I wish to proffer pretty well:

    https://www-wired-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.wired.com/story/how-fast-does-a-virus-spread/amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16260935272180&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fstory%2Fhow-fast-does-a-virus-spread%2F

    In the early stages 8000 cases in the US became 16000 in two days . Obviously the early stages of exponential growth can be randomly erratic. Thus one superspreader amongst the Iranian leaders and MPs could leave 30 infected on the first day and they might infect another 40 within 24 hours after which the 70 infected people became 140 by day 4, 280 by day 6, 560 by day 8 , 1120 by day 10, and 4480 after only a fortnight. That could be conservative. Why is it unlikely that sharing what medical scientists’ regard as gossip some friendly and gossipy person at WIV talking to an American known to be keeping an eye on American military athetes’ health was told “if I were you I would be taking a look at what I am told is an anomalous surge in respiratory cases at our biggest hospital: just the sort of thing that will be blamed on a lab like ours if it isn’t down to the local bats”?

    I concede that the precise timing so far seems to support your anti coincidence ideas but there are still plenty of known unknowns without counting the unthought of possibilities.

    *** *** ***

    I was till a couple of days ago moving toward positive consideration of JFK assassination connected with Ben Gurion and Yitzak Shamir when I saw a 2013 PBS Frontline program on “Who was Lee Harvey Oswald?”

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/oswald/

    If it was meant to be a spinner’s cover up it certainly was brilliantly subtle in leaving a strong impression that there was nothing much to wonder about except for the unexplained actions of Jack Ruby. (And maybe anything that can be made of RFK’s killing, not mentioned in this film).

    Now you may forgive me boring the s**t out of you because I think this link about Ruby will be enjoyed by a lot of UR readers. I was trying to find out if Ruby might have known he was dying of cancer before he shot Oswald but he was not. On the other hand there is no suggestion that he was part of a conspiracy.

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/who-was-jack-ruby/

  77. pietro says:
    @Poco

    Would you watch what was just posted you would wipe “china” in your attribution

  78. Ron notes correctly:

    “However, over the last couple of months, this propaganda-bubble has collapsed, and there is now increasing agreement that Covid was probably an artificial creation, engineered in some laboratory.”

    Wow, two months ago is mid-May, isn’t it?

    And on May 19th of this year, tired and utterly frustrated by the continuous obstruction of otherwise unanimous UN Security Council motions of relatively mild censure and requests for restraint by Israel for its obvious bloody and continuing massive over-reaction to Gazan rockets prompted by Israel’s violent disruption of Friday prayers at Al Aqsa mosque, more dispossessions of Palestinian homeowners in East Jerusalem, etc., important China media (CGTN) openly speculated that the USA’s ridiculously pro-Israel obstreperousness in the UNSC was borne of elite Jewish financial control of the US Congress, and Jewish elite power in American society in general:

    “On the Tuesday CGTN broadcast, host Zheng Junfeng questioned whether U.S. support for Israel was truly based on shared democratic values, saying “some people believe that U.S. pro-Israeli policy is traceable to the influence of wealthy Jews in the U.S. and the Jewish lobby on U.S. foreign policy makers.”

    “Jews dominate finance and and internet sectors,” Zheng says, speaking in English. “So do they have the powerful lobbies some say? Possible.”

    Here is the AP article dated May 19th of this year: https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-race-and-ethnicity-anti-semitism-54fd7d8a6b42c6afcfdb3dc2b16f7e0e. Note well the AP’s open and loud amplifying of Israeli accusations against China of ‘antisemitism’ for simply speaking the truth about elite Jewish influence on American politics and society, and its ‘possible’ effect on American foreign policy in the Middle East. (The former Chinese-Israeli ‘love affair’ is now officially over, apparently.)

    I am sure that the two events, the very public Chinese naming of Jewish financial elite and supremacist interests controlling US foreign policy, and a fortiori, the US Congress and White House, as well as large parts of the US media, circa May 19th, and the immediate groundswell thereafter of the “China did it!” lab-leak chorus of accusations amplified from predominately neocon and Jewish elite controlled quarters and MSM outlets are entirely unconnected…….

  79. Smith says:

    Used to believe China profit from this.

    But with the recent development, with the whole Asia lagging down and in turn affecting China, I fully believe this is an US weapon against China now.

    My only question is how the fuck is Fauci, an american, having anything to do with a biolab in Wuhan, China?

  80. Alfred says:
    @Ron Unz

    I fail to see how proof of the existence of the virus prior to the Wuhan outbreak is off-topic. Can you please clarify. Thank you. 🙂

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  81. On July 9, 2021, David Martin had a conversation with Reiner Fuellmich. Martin is an expert on patents, going a long way back. In 2002, he knew the lay of the land and said so. He has now come forward with unassailable evidence, placing it in the hands of the Fuellmich team — evidence others are able to check for themselves. This part of the massive ‘pandemic’ scam and attempted rollout of The Great Reset is a RICO case, pure and simple.

    [MORE]

    There never was a ‘novel virus’. There never was a ‘lab leak’. The [sic] ‘vaccine’ was designed to be the kill shot. Everything has been engineered; the usual suspects in the West are directly involved.

    [Aside: Not to say the Chinese aren’t involved, as well. Also, other parts of the massive biological attack on humanity, either through or in tandem with the [sic] ‘vaccine’ (most likely in multiple versions), remain cloaked and thus without the clarity Martin provides about the trail of criminality around the specific patents he addresses.]

    The interview is beginning to be posted in many places. See here:

    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/Fyoh6Px2bRuv/

    https://odysee.com/$/search?q=David%20Martin%20%2B%20Reiner%20Fuellmich

    Anyone who will, please convince yourself of the truth David Martin has shared and preserve/spread it as fast and as best you can.

    The power of the globalist goons determined to take over and depopulate/transhumanize the planet remains vast, with many terrible moves still to be played. Yet their power is not absolute; indeed, it is said they are very afraid.

    The Great Game is not over.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  82. @Simon Tugmutton

    Mr Unz, you will be very interested in the testimony given recently by Dr David Martin…

    Thank you very much for providing the link.

    The conference with Doctors Martin and Fuellmich leaves no room for doubt – it’s unambiguous and crystal clear –

    1. Corona Chan is an engineered bug.
    2. Corona Chan was deliberately released.
    3. The Corona Chan “vaccines” are bioweapons.
    4. The Neocons and the MIC were just along for the ride, leveraging the situation to advance their own warmongering objectives.
    5. The entire Corona Chan “pandemic” was principally engineered by the likes of creepy Bill, Fauci, Klaus and the rest of the Davos crowd to both enrich themselves and grind the rest of the world underfoot in their relentless drive to the Great Reset and technocratic One World Government, where those of us who survive “will own nothing, and be happy”.

    • Agree: Getaclue, Red Pill Angel
    • Replies: @lysias
  83. Anon[261] • Disclaimer says:

    Authoritative piece, especially compelling in its evolving arguments. Only, it’s not twilight, it’s the crack o’ dawn, and the executioner’s unbarring the door. The evidence is in. China, Iran, and Russia have cited it. This is war.

    SARS-COV-2 is a US government sneak attack with banned biological weapons in breach of the 1929 Geneva Convention, the Hague (III) Convention, and the Biological Weapons and Toxins Convention. It is a crime of aggression and an internationally wrongful act in breach of jus cogens giving rise to US government responsibility for restitution, compensation or satisfaction including but not limited to prosecution for command responsibility.

    This is a US government attack of unprecedented lethality with the most disproportionate and indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction ever devised. Every country on earth has been wronged, manifestly establishing erga omnes responsibility to stop US government criminals and hold them responsible. Justified reparations make the Treaty of Versaille look like a parking ticket. International legal precedent includes nuclear attack as a countermeasure for sneak attack, and this US sneak attack is aggravated by duplicitous misattribution and illegal war propaganda. This gravest of crimes forfeits US government sovereignty under the UN doctrine of Responsibility to Protect, justifying Pillars 2 and 3.

    This tears it. Does anybody think that the SCO will let this slide? Can anyone imagine the regime that did this being allowed to survive? Morally, legally, vitally, the US regime has got to go. Erga omnes responsibility includes us, the US population. They killed 600,000 of us. The world need to round up these criminals and deal with them. We need to prepare for successor states that will never repeat these crimes.

    Dibs on the hangman job at Khabarovsk!

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
    , @Anon
  84. Zago says:

    There is another “Webb,” besides Whitney who is an independent news journalist called George Webb. I would encourage Mr. Unz to avail himself to the former’s research.

    George Webb’s book Corona 911: The Darkweapons Backchannel to Pakistan & China from the US Congress does the most indept reporting on CV19 I’ve come across. His Ytube channel has been deleted and his books were banned from Amazon. He can still be found at:

    https://www.neighborhoodnewsstudio.com/george-webb-library

  85. Ron Unz says:
    @Alfred

    French researchers said they found traces of covid-19 in Nov 2019…scientists from National Cancer Institute of Milan and University of Siena found 10% of blood samples from a cancer screening trial contained COVID antibodies… samples included some from Sept 2019.

    Unfortunately, you were just too lazy to even bother reading my long article, which contains an entire section debunking all those supposed cases of very early Covid infections as obviously being due to false-positives:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
    , @Alfred
  86. MarkU says:
    @Caspar von Everec

    95% of people who died are above the age of 60 and already had co-morbidies. The vast majority of deaths also happened to obese people.

    There are plenty of obese people under the age of 60. If obesity is a major factor then why the low death toll in those age groups? Age is clearly the most important factor, even according to the stats you are citing.

  87. Ron Unz says:
    @Alfred

    I fail to see how proof of the existence of the virus prior to the Wuhan outbreak is off-topic. Can you please clarify. Thank you.

    Your comment was trashed because it proved you hadn’t even bothered reading my article, in which I specifically addressed the point you were making, though I’ve now restored it. However, that sort of bad behavior might get many of your future comments trashed.

  88. Dumbo says:
    @JH9

    Huh? Are you mentally retarded? I’m just a commenter here. I’m commenting on the article here, which I find is yet more misdirection and avoiding the real issues.

  89. @Triteleia Laxa

    No, there have been two plausible origins for the disease. Your “third” option has been “ignored”, because it is absurd.

    You mean the option that Corona Chan is an American invention?

    Absurd? That sounds like wishful thinking, or perhaps just outright denial.

    If you truly have belief in your convictions, then I challenge – no, I dare you to take the time to watch the conference with Dr. Martin and Dr. Fuellmich generously provided in a link by Mr. Tugmutton at Comment 33, and reproduced here for your convenience:

    Dr. David Martin & Dr. Reiner Fuellmich – Corona Chan Genesis

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html

    • Replies: @The Real World
  90. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    The US already has a proven track record of engaging in biowarfare from the days it acquired the assets of the notorious Japanese Unit 731 through primitive attempts in the Korean war and targeting Cuba’s pig population in the 70’s. There’s no reason to assume it’s ever stopped. In this environment of constant lying, deceit, disinformation, intimidation it’s hard to cut through the fog and get an idea of what has really taken place. The Wuhan lab leak seems to be the fallback position and fits in with the current campaign of demonizing China. As noted, the usual suspects have been assembled to conduct the propaganda campaign. Recently there was a flap in Russia regarding the supposed collection of Russian DNA by the US military which seems rather sinister. One thing is clear, the truth is probably the opposite of whatever the mainstream media is pushing. If they endorse something you know it’s false.

    • Replies: @Sarah
  91. funny says:

    Who is responsible for it’s release matters not. Was it deliberate? Yes. The billionaires around the world reaped mega profits. An economic reset of sorts.

  92. @Rabbitnexus

    For American readers, who may not be familiar with the incident, when Rabbitnexus mentions ‘Port Arthur’ and ‘Bryant’ in his comment # 61, he is of course referring to the government psyop perpetrated on the Australian people in 1996 (a template for the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting some have suggested, with the ultimate intention of disarming the Australian populace), otherwise known as the Port Arthur Massacre in Tasmania, Australia.

    A patsy by the name of Martin Bryant was falsely accused of murdering 35 people and has been incarcerated ever since.

    Good to see you’re on top of that issue Rabbit and looking forward to more of your output.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Troll: Mark Hunter
  93. @Carlton Meyer

    Malone seems like a smart guy but no one (including himself) should refer to him as “the inventor” of mRNA vaccines. Really hurts his credibility and that of anyone saying this.

    (1) mRNA vaccination is a general scientific idea. Many people have had that idea. One guy having had that idea decades ago does not make him “the inventor”. I think Malone was a coauthor on an early mRNA vaccination paper from a few decades ago, but it’d be nice if someone who knew more could clear this up.

    (2) To my knowledge, he has no involvement whatever in the development of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Saying that Malone “developed the two mRNA vaccines” is like saying a guy who worked on some experiments with electric motors at Ford in 1988 “developed the Tesla Model S”.

    • Agree: utu
    • Troll: Alfred
  94. Branko says:
    @Anonymous

    Those numbers are misleading.

    I don’t know anyone who passed away but I know four people who overdosed cause of the lockdowns.

    There was a lot of death last year- and most of it not related to Covid…

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  95. @Anon

    This is a US government attack of unprecedented lethality with the most disproportionate and indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction ever devised.

    There’s government involvement, to be sure, but probably not in the way that you think.

    It’s creepy Bill, Uncle Klaus and the rest of the Davos crowd that are calling the shots.

    The “weapon of mass destruction” is actually the custom bioweapons disguised as “vaccines” intended to be injected into every person on the planet, repeatedly, forever.

    I highly recommend all and sundry avail themselves of the video link provided by Mr. Tugmutton at Comment 33 (and also reproduced as as community service at Comment 90). If the evidence provided there doesn’t open some eyes, I can’t imagine what will.

    • Agree: Getaclue, Alfred
  96. Cowboy says:

    Oh holy science from which all knowledge is obtained
    May all the minions follow the science or be obliterated in infamy
    As it is in theory may it become truth in consensus
    Give us this day complete data and correct correlations as we skewer our opponents correlations
    Lead us not into subjectivity but deliver us into transhumanism.

    Amen

  97. TTSSYF says:
    @Beetlejuice

    How about a fourth possibility…that it was released jointly by the CCP and their sympathizers/agents in the US government, for one purpose only: to oust Trump.

    • Replies: @MarkU
    , @monopduly
  98. @Ron Unz

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/the-origins-of-sars-cov-2/13441308

    This segment of Dr Norman Swan’s weekly Health Report syndicated in Canada as well as made in Australia for our ABC has the considerable merit of being an interview with our local Nobel Laureate Peter Doherty**who should know a bit about Covid 19. Unfortunately Norman Swan seems unaware of your hypothesis and asks no relevant question.

    I have a slight acquaintance and some correspondence with NS and might be able to get him to read your latest article, or, probably, to have a junior colleague do so. I would prefer to put him in touch with you to, ideally, at least get him to tackle Doherty seriously with your theory. How should I best go about effecting that if, after considering the linked interview, you would like to communicate with him.

    **Doherty, (born October 15, 1940, Australia), Australian immunologist and pathologist who, with Rolf Zinkernagel of Switzerland, received the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1996 for their discovery of how the body’s immune system distinguishes virus-infected cells from normal cells.

  99. izzy says:

    The half million excess deaths might well be accounted for by the fact that early treatment – with long used and well understood drugs – was simply squashed by unprecedented interference with qualified doctors prescribing such treatments. “Go home and wait until you’re really sick” is not standard practice. The dam is starting to break on all this as well, which is the real tragedy of the last year and a half. Much of the death and suffering could have been easily avoided. The question of origin is almost an afterthought in that context.

    • Agree: MarkU
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  100. Schuetze says:

    “World War II ended more than 75 years ago, and across the last three generations there seems no single event that has impacted the world as much as the ongoing global Covid epidemic.”

    WWII was merely a continuation of WWI. WWI was remarkable for the “Spanish Flu” among other things. One reason the “Spanish Flu” was remarkable was not only for the way it spread so rapidly throughout the world, but also for the way it devastated Europe exactly at the same time that the Communist International was organizing general strikes all across the defeated Axis and the Allied empires.

    My Grandfather was a pilot for the US Army Aircorps in WWI, stationed in France. So I would submit that the Spanish Flu occurred within the last 3 generations. The Spanish Flu also was coincident to the Rockefeller take over the the US medical system with a massive push to allopathic cures over natural medicine.

    So I see “Covid-19” as just another staged event in a long spectrum of staged events going back more than 3 generations. I also believe that “Covid-19” will prove itself to not be nearly as significant in the long run as the mRNA gene therapy. Just like WWI, WWII, and especially the Holocaust, these events are all parts of a very long term strategy, if not a plan. Wars, Pestilence, and Financial crisis are all components of this same nefarious Talmudic plan, and it is far more than 3 generations old.

    [MORE]

    This cartoon was made in 1896.

  101. All this arguing about which country did it, but nobody asking – why does it have to be a country? Private companies can go into outer space now; why couldn’t a private company operate a secret bio lab somewhere? Which private entities might be best fixed to have a facility like that, and to pay scientists well enough they wouldn’t squeal? Think hard: Cui bono? Of course, there might be certain countries that could help. Wuhan might have been chosen for the rollout just to throw everyone off the scent, which it did. Just my theory of the day.

  102. The science is beyond my understanding.

    BUT, having an arrested development child as President might explain such irresponsibility. He followed the most vicious of neocons when he wasn’t golfing of course.

  103. Thank you Ron UNZ for lifting every rock in your path in pursuit of the truth! Keep up the good work and you will get there. About the topic of “who done it” I believe in a prominent psychologist who said “Past behavior of the criminals is an indicative of their behaviors in future”.

  104. anonym25 says:
    @utu

    It’s good that someone mentions the Russian lab accident in september 2019. We have three labs involved in some kind of accident within a span of three months: US’s Ft Detrick, Russia’s Vektor lab and China’s Wuhan lab. I think that they’re all three being set up to make look it like that the virus came from one of those labs. This is mere speculation but it’s more than a coincidence that those events happen particularly near the same time just before the sars-cov-2 outbreak in Wuhan in 2019.

  105. But here’s a listing of TOTAL American deaths from all causes over the last few years, taken directly from the CDC website:

    2014: 2,626,418
    2015: 2,712,630
    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,813,503
    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,854,838
    2020: 3,384,426

    You’ll notice that the numbers are fairly steady until 2020 when they suddenly jumped by well over 500,000.

    If I didn’t know any better, I’d almost think that America had been struck by a dangerous disease epidemic that year.

    Epidemic, like when the Black Death killed 50% of Europe’s population? The US Census counted 331 million American in 2020, so COVID killed .05% of the population. And its been proven that deaths from COVID were wildly over reported, counting people who died from other causes but had COVID at the time. People in hospice are counted too. And what about the higher suicide rate from lock downs?

    According to the CDC “Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.”
    More deaths from cigarettes than from COVID! Each year! Where is the tobacco lock down!

    • Agree: Alfred
  106. @Wizard of Oz

    I have a slight acquaintance and some correspondence with NS and might be able to get him to read your latest article…

    As you might gather from the following, I have a rather low opinion of Dr. Norman Swan.

    Dr. Norman Swan, using his national radio platform, in the complete absence of any proper investigation or evidence, publicly ridiculed the very notion of using Ivermectin to treat Corona Chan patients, describing Ivermectin as “sheep dip”.

    Since then, Australia has had around 1,000 Corona Chan fatalities, of which perhaps 85% could have been saved had they been allowed to use Ivermectin.

    If you do indeed have access to the notorious Dr.Swan, I wonder if you would have sufficient influence to challenge him with the following inconvenient truths?

    ================================================================

    [MORE]

    Ivermectin Saves India

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/ivermectin-saves-india/article_14b1f1d6-cd2f-11eb-8b78-9710d864f627.html

    ================================================================

    Ivermectin Destroys Corona Chan In Mexico City & India

    ================================================================

    Ivermectin Obliterates Corona Chan in Delhi

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html

    ================================================================

    Indian Bar Association Prosecuting Indian WHO Chief Scientist For Mass Murder

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indian-bar-association-sues-who-scientist-over-ivermectin/article_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html

    ================================================================

    Corona Chan – Ivermectin Studies

    https://c19ivermectin.com/

    ================================================================

    Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance – Corona Chan Treatment – Ivermectin

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/

    ================================================================

    Dr. Ryan Cole Talks About Covid-19, Ivermectin, & The Importance Of Vitamin D

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/06/no_author/talk-about-covid-19-mrna-bioweapon-ivermectin-the-importance-of-vitamin-d-dr-ryan-cole/

    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/embed/InH89amCpy7S/

    ================================================================

    It also occurs to me to wonder how Dr. Swan might regard his name appearing on the following or any similar list currently being compiled at various locations around the world for eventual prosecution of individuals complicit in crimes against humanity? One might note the current predicament of the WHO Chief Scientist mentioned in one of the articles listed above.

    ================================================================

    Website to Name Corona Chan Conspirators

    https://facescrimesagainsthumanity.club/

    ================================================================

    • Replies: @sb
  107. Sarah says:
    @anonymous

    When a policeman investigates a crime, one of his ways is to search among those who committed similar crimes in the past.
    Even if this approach is not successful, it would be wrong of him to neglect it.

    The US already has a proven track record of engaging in biowarfare from the days it acquired the assets of the notorious Japanese Unit 731 through primitive attempts in the Korean war and targeting Cuba’s pig population in the 70’s. 

    https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/censored-north-korea-accused-u-s-of-working-with-unit-731-war-criminals-on-bw-attacks-d7fd819ed8b7

    https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/a-concealed-war-crime-u-s-anthrax-bombings-of-china-during-the-korean-war-14782ceb40a9

    Thanks to another article from UNZ, I discovered the biological war waged by the United States against the Korean people. Disgusting. I would never have believed that before. If the US did it in 1950 they could very well do it in 2019.

    Do you have a source about Cuba ?

  108. SafeNow says:

    The athletes and support staff returned from the games, to their 219 bases. Okay, I can see not testing them at that time, as the Covid outbreak was not then public information. But then January rolls around and Covid is known — why not test them then? Esper is asked this at a later press conference. He replies “I have no idea what you are talking about.” The official transcript of the press conference deletes that Esper comment. The video of the conference goes silent when Esper makes that comment.

    https://prospect.org/coronavirus/did-the-military-world-games-spread-covid-19/

    There might be more to this than hesitancy to acknowledge malfeasance in early, logically crucial testing. Rather, it arguably evinces an unwillingness to draw any attention to the question of who the heck was there with the team. There were claims that there exists a paucity of images and videos of the team. (This reminds me of the current refusal to release security video of the January 6 Capitol intrusion – – such video what show who was present.)

  109. VICB3 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Would like to get it in here for discussion.

    the researchers concluded that the outbreak in Hubei province probably began no earlier than mid-October 2019, while regional newspaper reports suggest that Covid was already actively circulating by November 17, 2019.

    At about the same time, U.S. diplomats were in North Korea. Per the Rolling Stone:

    October 7th

    After another visit to North Korea, Pompeo says that Kim agreed to let inspectors visit a key nuclear site that had been demolished in testing in May. “Chairman Kim invited inspectors to visit the Punggye-ri nuclear test site to confirm that it has been irreversibly dismantled,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said in a statement.

    Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-kim-jong-un-summit-800204/

    (Using my best Leonard Nimoy In Search of voice) Could it be that a variant of the bioweapon was also released in North Korea, targeting the senior leadership, at this time?

    As evidence, I point to Kim Jong-un and his significant weight loss and haggard appearance as well as the current food crisis in that country:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kim+jung+ung+weight+loss+&t=ffab&ia=web

    The place is highly secretive and closed off to be sure, but this be the result of a specialized bioweapon attack akin to what may have taken place in Iran with their leadership?

    All comments welcome.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  110. Samala says:

    The main argument about using a virus as a bioweapon is – how do you keep it from blowing back on the source country? Leaving aside the accuracy of the numbers – in China 5,000 people died, in the US 650,000 people died. How would a country with a poor chaotic medical infrastructure like the USA assure they wouldn’t suffer more than the presumed target of the bioterror operation?

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  111. StanJ says:

    Add the Sh–t tests into the discussions.
    ¬Trail Site News

    [MORE]

    June 5, 2021 Dr. Erin Stair talks with Dr. Sabine Hazan about the Microbiome, her research, and the Covid-19 genetic sequence found in stool samples. https://youtu.be/VtMo7r5e7Gg

  112. JimDandy says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Now, hear me out: the virus could have been created as a bioweapon in a lab outside of China and then released near Wuhan by a covert cabal of rogue military operatives to make it LOOK like the virus leaked from the Wuhan lab and to hurt China in other ways… Think about it. But don’t write anything about how the rushed vaccine might be dangerous or mention the massive benefits Big Pharma is getting from this pandemic. I don’t like conspiracy theories.”

    Haha, great article, though. Extremely well-written, well-researched, and compelling (just like a lot of papers about alternative therapy for Covid.)

    • LOL: AaronB
  113. MarkU says:
    @TTSSYF

    Because now that Trump has gone, all the demonization of China and all the sabre rattling has stopped, right?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  114. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:

    One implicit assumption in your article, Mr Unz, is that what has come to be called the “deep state” operates exclusively within the USA and is not global in nature.

    This assumption allows you to dismiss, without any serious or meaningful equiery, any notion that avowed globalist billionaires opperating within and between national and supranational govermental and non-governmental organisations, businesses and “charitable” foundations, and who fund various “leftist” and state media outlets and health organisations, and who arrange and participate in, amongst other things, global pandemic gaming exercises, the possibity that they have played any part in this current “pandemic” of an arguably man-made and deliberately released virus. Despite evidence to the conyrary.

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    Besides this, to my mind, glaring ovetsight, you offer no evaluation what-so-ever of the very well documented inconsistencies regarding the gathering and collating of official “covid” statistics; false possitives, inflated death counts and unreliable “case” counts. One wonders whether the analitical eye you turned toward evaluating crime and ethnicity in America could be of value if used to evaluate the case/death numbers offered as evidence of a deadly contagion. – Should annual mortality figures not be adjusted for age? Should age adjusted mortality comparisons not go back more than a few short years? Should nothing be considered besides what our governments offer as unquestionable truth? To be sure, there are several qualified statisticians whos work I have read who do present a more cimplete pucture, one which calls the official narrative into doubt.

    Your “appraisal” of the highly dubious lockdowns is entirely without depth or even an attempt at evaluation. Rather you parrot the “Chinese lockdown worked, therefore lockdowns work” meme, offering no details as to how or why that might be (I have read elsewhere that the Chinas’ lockdown was very different to those being inflicted on the West). Nore do you give any meaningful consideration to the devestating consequences of such an unwarrented approach, which will be felt by the survivors of this deep-state biowarfare attack for years to come. Maybe even fotever, this being our “new normal” and all.

    Meanwhile any discussion of the dangers of the messenger rna, spike-protien inducing “vaccine” (which some argue is a biowepon in itself) is verboten. Presumably discussion of the impending covid passports is likewise off limits?

    In conclusion, your single-minded focus on the origins of the initial outbreak and the soley American “deep state” actors behind it, as per your original assessment way back, seems to have resulted in some strange inability on your part to see or assess the much bigger picture that is unfolding all around us.

    What a great shame that someone with the outstanding analytical skills which you demonstrate in spades in approaching so many other topics, and someone whose work reachers many tens of thousands of readers, chooses to turn a blind eye (“see no evil”) to the many, many questions surround this alledged pandemic and the unprecedented responses to it which we lowly surfs are being subjected to, up to and including death by largely untested vaccine technogy which many qualified practitioners state is killing more than the supposed pathogen it has allegedly been deployed to combat.

    Nontheless, in all other regards I greatly appreciate your excellent website and your writings on many other subjects, all of which remain of immense value, regardless. I continue to thank you for them.

    Regards,
    Kali.

  115. Anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Epidemic, like when the Black Death killed 50% of Europe’s population?

    Epidemics take on many shapes and sizes. What term would you use to describe a widespread infectious disease?

    In terms of a bioweapon, the CDC totals support the hypothesis that the virus was developed to disrupt economic activity – not wipe out a population – hence the high infection/much lower mortality.

  116. Miro23 says:

    Meanwhile, these same critics have entirely ignored the very real evidence that individuals he had placed in authority had carried out an exceptionally reckless biowarfare attack against China and Iran, with the unintended blowback consequences having devastated our own society and killed many hundreds of thousands of our citizens.

    Future historians will surely mark this as a very telling episode in the likely twilight of the decaying American Empire.

    One aspect is that MSM propaganda is still working.

    I cannot say if this political/media strategy was actually planned, but it proved very effective, and the fierce, early attacks on China for having released Covid achieved a double result. The accusations successfully demonized that country with much of the American and world public, so that according to a poll taken at the end of April, a remarkable 45% of Americans believed that the deadly virus had “probably” or “definitely” originated in a Chinese laboratory, with 74% of Republicans holding that opinion.

    Along with the effectiveness of the rest of the anti-China propaganda, the suggestion is that the US public would be all in for a conflict with China – even more so if it started with a false flag “event”.

    It seems clear that the Chinese are being set up as a result of their multiple challenges to the Empire (ignoring US embargo on Iran, main purchaser of Saudi oil, fading the US dollar, refusing China access for US banking/finance/media). In other words China doesn’t want to be looted (“Yeltsined”) so the US military are going to force them to comply.

  117. @Samala

    The main argument about using a virus as a bioweapon is – how do you keep it from blowing back on the source country?

    This is a valid question when operating from the premise that the villains in this movie are nation states.

    The calculus changes somewhat if we are dealing with entities that have no national loyalties, while still having access to all the resources and technologies that any state might have to offer.

    The likes of creepy Bill and his Mini-Me Fauci, and Klaus Schwab and the rest of the Davos crowd, come to mind. There’s their closed club, and then there’s the rest of us.

    • Agree: MarkU
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  118. @Carlton Meyer

    I’m sorry about my horrible math guess. COVID did not kill .05% of Americans in 2020, but .0015% of the American population. Not one friend or relative of mine died from COVID.

    • Replies: @David
  119. @Paul2

    I think it likely that the whole “CoVid” crisis is a long and carefully planned, rehearsed, organized and orchestrated operation.

    I think you’re correct. At least two decades of preparation led up to the Corona Chan “pandemic”.

    I also consider it likely that — just as in the case with 9/11 — what could be seen as “blowback” is not blowback at all but something that was intended from the beginning as part of the overall plan.

    Again, you’re on the money.

    But here’s the twist – the warmongering Neocon psychos, who think they’re running the show, were actually just accessories to the crime – useful tools, as it were.

    The real perps have loyalty to no nation and no people other than themselves.

    See Comment 33 from Mr. Tugmutton for a highly illuminating video, in which all this becomes abundantly and irrefutably clear.

    The Nuremburg 2 Trials are getting closer.

  120. In terms of a bioweapon, the CDC totals support the hypothesis that the virus was developed to disrupt economic activity – not wipe out a population – hence the high infection/much lower mortality.

    It was the CDC that disrupted economic activity with lockdown orders, so is the CDC key to this bioweapon?

    Also, did the government’s promise to cover all COVID treatment lead to high hospitalization rates? We have a for profit system, and with minor surgeries cancelled hospitals had lots of extra staff and empty beds. Were millions of healthy Americans with minor COVID symptoms hospitalized “in an abundance of caution” for several days but not treated?

    One interesting event occurred when some suggested that those who developed vaccines share their formula with the world so other nations and companies could help produce them. The idea of waving patent rights and going generic to save tens of thousands of lives was immediately rejected by Bill Gates and Big Pharma.

    The CDC has great pandemic powers. Why didn’t Fauci order this done? Everyone would applaud and the Feds would save billions of dollars with cheaper vaccines.

  121. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @M. Le Docteur Ralph

    The Biowarfare attacker is using his biowarfare weapon not just directed at certain “enemies.” It is directed at everybody, INCLUDING ITS OWN PEOPLE. Remember, it’s “Globalism.” As Trotsky taught, you can’t have a Reset anywhere without a Reset everywhere. Or, “World Revolution.”

  122. Alfred says:
    @utu

    Luc Montagnier who lost his marbles long time ago does not count.

    That is really funny. Luc Montagnier is no fool. The fact that the French scientific establishment is envious of him is a factor in his favour. 🙂

    Montagnier said that the Covid-19 virus was made in a lab when it was unfashionable to do so. They tried to tell us that it came from bats in a Chinese market. 🙂

    Several scientists, including Montagnier, have performed experiments which confound orthodox science. They proved that water has memory. Conventional scientists hate this discovery. It upsets their mental balance.

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  123. “GOF Reveals that SARS-CoV-2 is Man Made & Paid for by U.S Taxpayers

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    1999: U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services (HHS) funds research amplifying the infectious character of Coronaviruses.

    2000: In May* Ralph Baric successfully uses reverse genetics (cDNA**) to rescued infectious clone*** of SARS-CoV Urbani.

    2002:In April Christopher M Curtis, Boyd Young & Ralph Baric file a patent for a recombinant (chimeric) DNA means of producing “an infectious, replication defective, coronavirus.” Funded by NIH Grant GM63228. Dr. Shi Zhengli and colleagues increase infectivity by combining an HIV pseudovirus with SARS-CoV-1.

    2003: Dr. Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill receives NIH grant AI23946-08 officially classified as affiliated with NIAID. • Baric works on synthetically altering Coronaviridae.

    2006: Chinese**** researchers combine HCV, HIV-1, SARS-CoV-1 & SARS-CoV-2.

    2007: NSF Grant IIS-0513650 (Italy, France and Indiana University) study addresses FIRST CRITICAL STEP to control a pandemic – shut down International Travel. Given this knowledge why did Fauci tell Trump a Travel Ban was unnecessary?

    2011: Scientists express Concerns about GoF after Labs in Wisconsin and the Netherlands mutate already lethal H5N1 Asian Avian Influenza Virus (Bird Flu) increasing infectivity.

    2013: Middle East Respiratory Virus (MERS) outbreak with 30-40% fatality in Saudi Arabia (2014) and South Korea (2015). Rhesus macaques show early treatement with interferon-α2b and ribavirin critical to treatment success.

    Baric***** and Chinese scientists isolate 3 coronaviruses from bats with HKU4 spike protein – unable to infect human cells.

    2014: CDC accidentally exposes workers to Anthrax; ships deadly flu virus. NIH finds 50-year old forgotten vials of smallpox. Obama Administration halts Gain-of-Function Research

    2015: Dr. Zhengli et al “re-engineered HKU4 spike aiming to build its capacity to infect human cells.” “To this end, we introduced two single mutations…mutations in these motifs in coronavirus spikes have demonstrated dramatic effects on viral entry into human cells.”

    Baric and Zhengli announce they can make a more dangerous, virulent and infectious virus. ******

    2017: Gain-of-Function Research Ban Lifted

    2018: Zhengli presents research at Shanghai Jiao Tong University on 14 Nov. 2018 entitled “Studies on Bat Coronavirus and its cross-species infection.”
    This presentation has since been deleted from the University website.

    2019: Summer deletion of Wuhan Institute of Virology Corona Virus data bank.

    December 31 Wuhan Municipal Health Commission report******* discussing COVID-19 pneumonia – deleted”
    * U.S. Provisional Application No. 60/206,537, filed May 21, 2000
    ** Complimentary DNA is Reverse Transcription (mRNA->DNA) frequently using Moloney murine leukemia virus.
    *** https://www.pnas.org/content/100/22/12995
    **** Huang Q, Cheng Y, Guo Q, Li Q. Preparation of a Chimeric Armored RNA as a Versatile Calibrator for Multiple Virus Assays. Clinchem 2006; 52(7):1446-1448 and Supplement A.
    ***** Yang Y…Baric RS, et al. Receptor usage and cell entry of bat coronavirus HKU4 provide insight into bat-to-human transmission of MERS coronavirus. PNAS 2014;111(34):12516-12521. Funded with NIH grants RO1AI089728 &
    ****** Zhengli S, Baric RS, et sl. Two Mutations Were Critical for Bat-to-Human Transmission of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus. J Virol.2015;89(17):9199-9123. Funded by NIH grants RO1AI089728, RO1AI110700.
    ******* Wuhan City Health Committee (WCHC). Wuhan Municipal Health and Health Commission’s briefing on the current pneumonia epidemic situation in our city 2019 [updated 31 December 2019, 14 January 2020]. Available from: http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2019123108989

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_6f632cc8d75d4d8c8b90cc749262f4b4.pdf

    ‘It’ could have been ‘worse’?
    ” . . . my
    49:09 understanding
    49:10 is that uh the uh the mortality
    49:13 uh is uh right around 100 [%] for the nipah
    49:16 virus
    49:17 uh peter dayzak and and his group at
    49:20 equal health
    49:21 is involved in experimentation with the
    49:23 nipah virus . . . “

    • Replies: @James Charles
  124. On balance I agree with Ron’s thesis that an American biowarfare attack was involved. But it is difficult to understand how such a poor decision could be undertaken. The blowback has weakened the US relative to China, and this should not have been difficult to predict. At the beginning of the pandemic I predicted the US response would be wildly incompetent, annd I was not mistaken.

    There is lots of evidence that big pharma knew this was coming and was salivating over the profit potential. For another bit of evidence, take a look at the 2016 patent for the “prefusion-stabilized” spike protein. (US10960070B2, search Google patents or even a web search will pull it up) This is a supposedly less dangerous form of the S protein which all vaccines chose to use. The background discussion makes it clear that a corona-virus pandemic was expected. Maybe somebody got tired of waiting for it to emerge naturally.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  125. monopduly says: • Website
    @TTSSYF

    Suppose every covert operation has an official story, and a fallback conspiracy theory (cognitive infiltration), and of course an underlying truth best ignored or suppressed. Then in the case of 911 we had, have the official story of plane hijackers pancaking massive steel columned towers and hitting the pentagon. Immediately after 9/11 we saw the emergence of two competing conspiratorial narratives: 1. The LIHOP Let it Happen on Purpose deliberate intelligence failure, and 2. MIHOP the idea that the Pentagon with Cheney at the helm orchestrated the entire thing as a false flag, MIHOP, made it Happen on Purpose. Perhaps the suppressed truth was the builder Trump assertion in the early days that it was impossible for a passenger plane of jet fuel to take down a tower, and that indeed, asserted elsewhere, that there was no evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon (‘no planer’ theory). Recall LIHOP was seriously considered by Congress in the form of ‘Able Danger’ as asserted by ‘whistle blower’ LTC Anthony Shaffer. The suppressed alternative to LIHOP was the obvious foreknowledge and tracking of the hijackers described by Whitney Webb and others. MIHOP of course diverts attention from Israeli foreknowledge towards the evil genius of Dick Cheney much like the Reset theory points to the evil genius of Bill Gates and Davos~Schwabb. To most Pentagon veterans, MIHOP is implausible, the Pentagon and CIA are bureaucratic paper layered unwieldy Titanics incapable of swift, secret, compartmentalized operations. I would add this criticism to the Unz covid MIHOP hypothesis unless we interpret his delineation of ‘rogue elements’ as that which would include organizational and operational capabilities outside the U.S. government as a whole. That is to say, there must exist an organizational and operational capability which is transnational and distinct from governments and international organizations, yet capable through corruption or intimidation of thwarting governmental investigations, as had happened in the case of Israeli foreknowledge of 9/11.

    Recall that 9/11 had a biological warfare component in the form of the Anthrax attacks whose letters ascribed an Islamic motive, much like the B’nai B’rith pseudo attack of 1997, and that both incidents involved commentary, if not suspicion of, USAMIRD scientist Dr. Stephen Hatfill who had obtained a prescription against Anthrax prior to the event. This was a red herring or head fake evidently and ‘The Atlantic’ magazine ran a fawning defense of Hatfill while the FBI agreed to pay him a substantial settlement. This had followed the ‘Camel Club’s fingering of scientist Ayaad Assaad. This is consistent with the Unz observation that an intelligence operation will have multiple fallback diversion stories. What’s interesting here is that the actual strain used by the attackers was a widely distributed one that originated at USAMIRD. Therefore, either by opportunity, or pre-planning, suspicion would have to fall at the outset upon U.S. biowarfare scientists, despite evident mutation and weaponization and the presence of the ‘so called Israeli cloning vector’ in the Amerithrax samples. ‘Nothing to see here:

    The investigation summaries provided to the committee in December 2010 refer to the presence of a pE03 vector referred to as an ‘Israeli cloning vector’ among certain repository isolates (B3D1). On the January 11, 2011 meeting the FBI was asked to clarify what was known about the vector. The committee was told that this vector was a derivative of the commonly used cloning vector pBR322 that was found in some isolates, and that it had no forensic value to the investigation (FBI/USDOJ, 2011).

    Almost two decades later LTC Anthony Schaeffer and Dr. Stephen Hatfill re-appear in the public eye as original guests at Steve Bannon’s War Room Pandemic show whose primary mission was to promote the Wuhan Lab bioweapon leak narrative. Bannon had worked at Andrew Breitbart pro Trump, pro-Israel, and pro-Brexit magazine founded in Israel by Larry Solov. His co-hosts were Raheem Kassam formerly of Brexit, and Jason Miller of the now MAGA social network GETTR, funded by a shady Chinese expat offshore consortium.
    Trump lawyer Russian emigre Boris Epshteyn is a frequent guest which correlates the Trump family’s link to Russian organized crime figure Felix Sater.

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    Bannon had been ejected from both the Trump administration and Breitbart, evidently over a dispute with Javanka and the Mercer family. Nonetheless he launched his pandemic show with the consortium’s funding prior to even the WHO and CDC acknowledging the existence of a pandemic. Schaeffer and Hatfill were 9/11 narrative story tellers, and now reappear in the same roles in the Wuhan Lab bioweapon narrative.

    Unz would like us to believe that according to the Times of Israel, and Josh Margolin and James Gordon Meek of ABC, that the Pentagon had foreknowledge of the pandemic. The Pentagon not opting for a ‘No comment’ declaration denies this. If a Defense Intelligence Report exists, then this would contradict their absolute denial. That suggests that it does not exist, but rather, they had reported on information they had received on the existence of a pandemic. It seems more likely Israel had alerted the Pentagon through its extensive intelligence apparatus and then had the TOS and Margold report the converse.

    All of this is to say that consortium behind Bannon, Schaeffer, Hatfill, Kassam, and Miller, the public face of its cognitive infiltration effort, had a more likely existing foreknowledge, along with Israeli elements, than the Trump Pentagon, which, along with the CIA, remained hostile to America First and Likud Nationalism. Indeed, the primary target of the pandemic, if judged by outcome, rather than as some sort of inadvertent blowback, was the 2020 and 2021 elections which removed both Trump and Netanyahu from present and likely future elected office. The financial consequences of the pandemic, much like 9/11, should not be minimized, resulting in net transfer of wealth upward in the trillions of dollars. The Gates-Schwab war gaming of the event, as Unz argues, does not implicate the Davos elite necessarily, but it does argue for their assessment that an organizational-operational consortium existed with the intent and capability for a major biological attack.

    This SPECTRE like entity, a private consortium, (an acronym of Special Executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, Revenge, and Extortion), would then have to be both hostile to Iran, and ostensibly China, while also seeking the removal of both Trump and Netanyahu. But notably, while it attacked with murderous intent the Iranian leadership, it did not attack the Chinese leadership. The Trump family was infected, and there was a major breakout at the AIPAC conference Netanyahu engaged in a massive vaccination effort in Israel. He clearly perceived a biological threat from the virus.

    Thus, there is a fourth explanation of events It was not natural occurrence, nor a lab leak, nor an American bio-weapon attack om China. It was an attack on the United States, or more specifically on Trump-Likud populist ethno-nationalism, with the consequential benefits of. the destruction of free speech and actual voting rights with the initiation of work travel health and ideological passports. If the Wuhan lab leak is its ‘head fake’ then the funding behind the Bannon-GETTR consortium, and Schaeffer-Hatfill Brexit efforts provides some guidance as to its origin.

    Brexit seems to have been mainly funded bypass through donations via Leave EU donor Aaron Banks. LTC Anthony Schaeffer is the CEO of the NYC based London Center for Policy Research. Which also hosts former CIA director James Woolsey, NSA Robert McFarlane and Bannon guests former police commissioner Bernie Kerik. And Anthrax suspect Dr. Stephen Hatfill. Miller’s GETTR and Bannon’s War Room are funded by Guo Wengui, an apparently FBI protected Chinese dissident, alleged to be a Chinese double agent:

    [The evidence] showed that Mr. Guo was detained in China on the date he claims to have arrived in the US in early 2015 [and] that he sent hundreds of millions of dollars back and forth between China and the US for years after Chinese authorities supposedly starting seizing his assets, and that he’s used scores of lawsuits to engage in seemingly sham disputes against Chinese regime-connected entities while simultaneously filing very real lawsuits against legitimate Chinese dissidents to destroy their reputations and drain their finances.”

    This is remarkable. Is it possible that the pro Trump propaganda network promoting the voting audits and the Wuhan Bio-weapon theory is funded by a Chinese intelligence asset posing as a dissident with the approval of the FBI? Brexit, the pandemic, and current pro-Trumpism itself, are then, most likely unknowingly, the creation of an oligarchic, China facilitated, Western destabilization program. The initiation of the pandemic in China then inoculates the pro-China western elite and the CCP from any plausible assignment of blame? And if Davos-Gates and the Great reset were mere bystanders, they also were prime beneficiaries.

    The Pentagon MIHOP theory is implausible as is an Israeli attack. Oligarch associated with the funding of anti-Trump neocons and globalism seem more likely suspects. And the target was not China, .nor America per se, but instead the foundations of Western democratic resistance to elite ‘Human Intraspecific Social Parasitism’ (HISP), namely, free speech and real elections.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  126. Paper claiming to show that CO-19 did originate naturally

    https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202102.0590/v1

    • Replies: @MarkU
    , @James Charles
  127. Anonymous[833] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Exactly right. During the anthrax attacks of 2001 the government narrative allowed that the infectious source material (the Ames strain of Bacillus anthracis) came from a federal bioweapons lab but the targets the law enforcement agencies went after were not high on the totem pole–not the director of Fort Detrick, for example, but rather a couple of “quirky loners” (Steven Hatfill and Bruce Ivins) one of whom conveniently committed suicide (BI) the other of whom sued the federal government and won (SH).

    Long ago there was a scenario floated, which I don’t recall being revisited any time recently, that said perhaps the bug escaped when an intelligence agent under cover in the Canadian biolab allegedly involved in the overarching research chain, encompassing labs in Maryland, Winnipeg and Wuhan, swiped a culture of the bug for delivery to the Chinese and it inadvertently got out. Could just as well have been an agent working for Washington based in Wuhan who messed up. These bright boys are famous for storing pathogens virulent and contagious enough to exterminate the human race if let loose next to their brown bagged lunch in the employee break room. Then there are the potential religious zealots who may believe they are working as the eyes, ears and hands of God. Any guilty spook need not be a top spook at all.

    • Replies: @monopduly
  128. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    The US sees Iran as its enemy.
    Iran, after being attacked by the US many times, sees the US as its enemy.

    “israel” is everybody’s enemy. Such a parcel of haters in a nation!

  129. Alfred says:
    @Simon Tugmutton

    Thank you.

    This demolishes the nonsense the troll @utu wrote in his comment above.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#comment-4774165

    There is clear evidence at the US patent office that this virus was manufactured. Pharmaceutical companies patented tests for it before the virus patent was granted. This should result in a racketeering case against all participants.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  130. @Ron Unz

    The article you cite does not debunk anything, though it attempts to do so.

    I begins with the naive statement, “According to our standard timeline, the Covid virus probably first appeared in Wuhan between mid-October and mid-November of 2019”. That is an assertion made before the WHO has been allowed to investigate the many, many documented examples of Covid’s earlier appearance elsewhere.

    Nor has anyone investigated the implications of the 95,000 deaths the CDC recorded in January 2020. Since Covid’s death doubling interval is 140 days, we can reasonably speculate that the virus has been amongst us since at least 2016.

    [MORE]

    If that sounds farfetched, consider this: “The Coronavirus might have been spreading quietly in humans for years, or even decades, without causing a detectable outbreak”. Dr. Francis Collins, Director, The National Institutes of Health.

    And this:

    • Agree: Alfred
  131. Alfred says:
    @Spike Protein

    There is no fish species “red herring”, rather it is a name given to a particularly strong kipper, made with fish (typically herring) that has been strongly cured in brine or heavily smoked. This process makes the fish particularly pungent smelling and, with strong enough brine, turns its flesh reddish. In this literal sense, as a strongly cured kipper, the term can be dated to the mid-13th century, in the poem The Treatise by Walter of Bibbesworth: “He eteþ no ffyssh But heryng red.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring#History_of_the_idiom

  132. MarkU says:
    @Dieter Kief

    A paper assuming that it originated naturally you mean.

    How could it even be possible to prove that a virus had not been tampered with?

    • Agree: Iris
  133. christoso says:
    @pietro

    It would be helpful to this discussion if Ron were to watch this video and comment on it. All of David Martin’s claims are easily verified or debunked by looking at the patent filings. If they are true, as I suspect they are, they bring us much closer to understanding what has happened in the last 20 months. In short, this is a bombshell interview.

  134. peterike says:

    It’s obviously just a matter of personal opinion whether an extra half-million deaths in 2020 is a big number or a small number…

    It’s a completely inconsequential number, whether big or small. More so since most of the dead were elderly. Sure, if it’s your grandma, than that matters to you. But as a nation, an extra 500K deaths is a non-event that effects nothing whatsoever. The population didn’t even go down. What kind of “pandemic” results in more people being alive in the nation after it than before it?

    Simply put, the lockdown regimes were vastly more destructive, and ended up not making any difference to the course of the disease. But the rich got much, much richer, so I guess we should all be grateful.

    I’ll say it for the umpteenth time: if you took away the panic, media hysteria and lockdowns, almost nobody would have even noticed anything different was going on.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  135. @Ron Unz

    Out of ignorance on the history of Moderna’s vaccine production I find this suspect: “Moderna’s groundbreaking coronavirus vaccine was designed in just 2 days.” https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna-designed-coronavirus-vaccine-in-2-days-2020-11?op=1

    The DoD had a part in creating the vaccine according to KEI via grants. I’m ignorant on this, it may be nothing, but at a glance it looks suspect. The people releasing the virus would either be stupid or psychopathic if they didn’t take measures to defend themselves from the virus they released. https://www.keionline.org/wp-content/uploads/KEI-DoD-DARPA-Moderna.27aug2020.pdf
    https://www.keionline.org/33832

    DARPA can create vaccines (how much capability does it have?): “Pentagon’s DARPA Plans To Create COVID-19 ‘Temporary Vaccine’ Until Regular Vaccine Is Developed.” What happened with this?
    https://www.ibtimes.com/pentagons-darpa-plans-create-covid-19-temporary-vaccine-until-regular-vaccine-2966544

    Yes, they probably released it as you said if it is a bio-weapon. Athletes were ill at and after the Wuhan military games so the virus was probably there: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8291755/Did-European-athletes-catch-coronavirus-competing-World-Military-Games-Wuhan-OCTOBER.html

    Could more variants that are popping up everywhere be released the same way? Why stop at Wuhan? We have Delta and Lambda variants to worry about now. What is natural and what is not?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  136. monopduly says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    To track the likely source, one must track its cognitive infiltration accessories, or more specifically their funding consortia, i.e. :

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#comment-4775203

    Here is the Bannon War Room Pandemic roster at the London Center including Schaeffer, Hatfill, and other assorted intelligence wash outs like Kerik, MCFarlane and Woolsey:

    https://www.londoncenter.org/about/leadership-and-fellows

    Populist Nationalism, e.g. Trump and Netanyahu, were the target, not the source.

    • Replies: @monopduly
  137. Thank you for this deep analysis of the viral crisis.

    Regarding the seemingly crazy notion that no new virus has been proven to exist, I do not know the answer. The most telling rebuttal seems to be the 500,000 excess deaths announced by the CDC.

    But on the other hand, if a virus has never been isolated and purified, and then subjected to the rigors of the proper methodology of virology to analyze and prove the thing exists, one can make a good inference. The world’s governments need not conspire to reach identical conclusions about a viral epidemic. All that is necessary is that the people who run public health agencies around the world hold to identical assumptions and so think basically alike.

    That they do think alike, as I am sure they have been trained (indoctrinated) to think, is clearly true. They are not interested in truth per se, but in issuing and enforcing marching orders. That’s what government bureaucracies do. They use coercion always and everywhere.

    If this claim of mine seems far fetched, consider other subjects in which there appears to be near unanimity among governments around the world. Global warming, the “science of”. The “science” of Keynesian economics featuring endless government spending and inflating as promotive of prosperity.

    But these instances of “science” are falsehoods.

    I could cite other such examples, but I hope my point is already clear.

    Your analysis is really excellent, thanks again.

  138. Yevardian says:

    @RonUnz

    About a fifth into McMeekin’s “Stalin’s War”, somewhat disappointed so far. Although this is due more to his extremely polemical writing style, constantly referring to Stalin as ‘the Vozhd’ in an obvious attempt to bring connotations of the ‘Fuhrer’ title, and his always highly emotive language, which often sounds like cold-war agitprop. I got a taste of this in his last (so far, much better and more soberly written) book on the Russian Revolution, in that book’s ridiculous afterword, warning of a Communism’s recrudescence in the form of.. Bernie Sanders. He actually makes Robert Conquest’s prose look elegant and objective. This isn’t to detract from McMeekin’s actual research, but his writing just swarms with hackneyed cliches, it’s painful to read his English after someone like A.J.P Taylor or E.H. Carr, he should get a ghostwriter.

    On the book’s actual contents, I noticed McMeekin’s tone can barely hide his disappointment and frustration that the allies, did not, in fact declare war on the USSR over Finland, or attempt Operation Pike. His contemptuous descriptions of the Red Army’s (admittedly abysmal) performance during the Winter War, or even the 4th partition of Poland, suggest he genuinely believes that the Anglo-Americans could have taken on both Hitler’s Germany and the “Vozhd’s” USSR and won.

    Anyway, the core revisionist argument of the book is still ahead, and it’s virtually impossible to make WW2 tedious, so I’ll continue on.

    • Thanks: Iris, utu
  139. lysias says:

    The LBJ administration got so many people to accept its line that the lone nut Oswald was alone responsible for the JFK assassination by pointing to the unacceptable n ature of what it claimed was the only alternative: Cuba and/or the USSR, which the intel community made sure there was evidence to support. Ignoring the true alternative, that the US deep state did it.

  140. @Ron Unz

    Ron, I’m surprised at you going ad-hominem on Godfree Roberts yet again. There is enormous American anti-China propaganda. That an American counters that by pointing to the real facts is praiseworthy. Possibly, neither of you is 100% correct, and yes, we can slam China over annexing Tibet, and grabbing other countries’ mineral resources in the South-Of-China Sea. But … Erm… America?

    It’s great, your site is great, in providing us with information from you both. I put Ron Unz and Godfree Roberts in the same basket.

  141. TTSSYF says:
    @MarkU

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend, if only for meeting a short-term goal.

  142. monopduly says: • Website
    @monopduly

    Correction- The London Center that funds the Steve Bannon Pandemic show roster appears to be an offshoot of the Hudon Institute (also once chaired by Herb London) sponsoring other spooky characters such as Dick Cheney’s Scooter Libby.

    Hudson Institute source watch
    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Hudson_Institute

    Laddyma Thompson
    Vice President of Operations and Treasurer

    Laddyma Thompson is a 25-year non-profit executive. She is responsible for the overall operations of the London Center and also serves as its treasurer. Before joining the London Center, Laddyma served as office manager of Hudson Institute’s New York office. Laddyma had the privilege to work for the London Center’s founder, Dr. Herbert London, for nearly 20 years.

    https://www.londoncenter.org/fellows/E4C97AB2-8C75-11E9-A081-0ACD4829D8DB/profile

    This tends to reinforce the Ron Unz hypothesis of a neocon rogue element behind the pandemic with the caveat that the target was Trump and American Democracy, not China. Interestingly while Hudson is anti-Trump neocon, its offshoot, the London Center, is ostensibly pro-Trump.

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter
  143. Biowarfare as geopolitical game, sure. But why so little mention of simple lust for money and power as a motive?

    It doesn’t take a complex clandestine effort to coordinate the leaders of various countries to realize that lockdown = increased consolidation of wealth and power.

    An individual country’s rollout and severity of quarantine restrictions could mean no more than how long it took for each country’s ruling class to fully realize how lucrative an opportunity it could be.

    Making the most of a new disease may just be the latest version of capitalizing on new resources, new technology, or ‘innovations’ in finance.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  144. MEH 0910 says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    China News Service:

    U.S. publisher rejects random lab-leak theory of COVID-19
    2021-07-09 • Xinhua • Editor: Feng Shuang

    The outbreak of COVID-19 is less likely to be the result of a lab leak than a biowarfare attack, a U.S. publisher has said in a recent article.

    Existential evidence suggested the possibility of a coronavirus biowarfare attack launched by Washington more than the lab-leak theory, said Ron Unz in a review article published on the Unz Review website in late May.

    China had been hit by various viruses right when the country was locked in a growing conflict with America for years, noted Unz, the website’s editor-in-chief and publisher.

    Additionally, the outbreak of COVID-19 “appeared at the worst time and place for China,” referring to the Lunar New Year holiday with a travel rush, and the major transit hub of Wuhan in central China with a huge volume of passengers, said Unz, who believes the timing of the emergence of COVID-19 is “suspicious.”

    “300 American military servicemen had just visited Wuhan as part of the Military World Games, providing a perfect opportunity for releasing a viral weapon,” he noted, calling the scenario “a strange coincidence.”

    “The characteristics of COVID-19, including high communicability and low lethality, are absolutely ideal in an anti-economy bioweapon,” Unz said, adding it’s odd to speculate that a Chinese lab would release a virus perfectly designed to damage the Chinese economy.

    • Replies: @Tdstype2
  145. Realist says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    It’s great, your site is great, in providing us with information from you both.

    It is a great site, but Unz sometimes seems determined to fuck it up.

    • Troll: Mark Hunter
  146. It doesn’t matter if we wear the masks, take the vaccines, or not. It’s all political now and everyone is working an instant gratification angle to advance an agenda. It’s no accident that everyone’s agenda leave us abused or dead somewhere down the road in the ditch.

    Wearing masks shows loyalty to the narrative. It’s corporate update of the Heil Hitler salute. Allows instant ID of true believers. Vaccines are another loyalty test. Wear your rainbow arm band with pride.

    America offers nothing to the larger world community. Everything they are leaving behind in all the countries they invaded since Sept. 11 has been “Made in China.”

    The Democrats hate America and the Republicans love Israel. Looks like both are nearing their goal of a total Jonestown.

  147. I don’t think that the ‘conspiracy theorists’ really think that all the governments are in it together and throwing that into an otherwise excellent article makes me thing that Ron will be admitting that he was very wrong on this at some point in the future,

    Most western governments are owned by ‘big money’ one way or another, so for example in Ireland we are heavily dependent on the corporation tax take from American pharmaceutical companies, in fact a full 60% of our exports are pharmaceutical products made in Ireland by American companies which are then exported back to the US,

    Add to that the tax take from the tech industry, mainly American, and you have a country that essentially has no sovereignty,

    Our political class know this very well and are implementing the longest and most stringent lockdown and restrictions in the world which reached a new low today when our government announced the plan to restrict indoor dining to the vaccinated,

    Now the pharmaceutical industry worldwide is owned by the same people as the tech industry (Vanguard, SSGA, Blackrock, Capital etc) so it’s not like the Irish government are in on some worldwide conspiracy, they are simply doing what they are told by those who rule the world through the power of the purse,

    There were approximately 600 extra deaths in Ireland in 2020 as against 2019 and less deaths in 2020 that 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015 etc,

    In other words – No deadly ‘disease’ rampaged through the country,

    How come if the virus is a low lethality one as Mr Unz suggests did you guys have an extra 500,000 deaths,

    And finally, what is up with the desire by all these ‘owned’ governments to vaccinate the young and indeed even children?

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  148. MarkU says:
    @pietro

    Assuming the guy is genuine, the information contained in the video should be enough to blow the whole thing wide open.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  149. kemerd says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    I could not resist have to respond to this nonsense: does tobacco addicted individuals also double every few days? or traffic accidents, another example used by many other idiots.

    Yet, we spend time and money to create elaborate rules and enforcement mechanisms to minimize traffic accidents. There are smoking bans in public places to discourage people from smoking, not to mention public money spent on campaigns against smoking.

    Your kind really irritates me immensely

  150. harfang67 says:

    Mr Unz,
    You merite our most sincere congratulations for your analyses if such a world event. Inconsider you like a prophet . I just hope they don’t elimanate you.

    Harfang67(Jean-Marie)

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  151. @Anonymous

    Where, anywhere in the desert of fith-rate Sabbat Goyim in public life in the West, would you find a ‘philosopher king’?The idea is LUDICROUS.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  152. Mike Tre says:
    @Anonymous

    That graph is meaningless without an age breakdown. It’s also meaningless until we have total deaths from 2021.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  153. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Tibet has been part of China for many times greater than Aztlan has been part of the USA. In fact many times greater than there has been a USA. Are you a fan of serfdom, theocracy, mass illiteracy, nil healthcare, life expectancy below forty etc, as was the lot of Tibetans before their liberation? As for the South China Sea, seeing as US plans for aggressive war (ie LandSea Battle)and blockade were predicated on US control of those waters, China’s response was wise and timely.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  154. The bat betacoronaviruses come in four (or five, depending on source) subgenera or lineages. Lineage B is the one containing SARS and SARS-CoV2. From the start of the pandemic, numerous scientists pointed out that SARS-CoV2 was the only member of lineage B with a furin cleavage site; this consisted of an addition of 12 nucleotides (not likely from a simple mutation) creating new codons, leading to a polybasic insertion (PRRAR; a furin recognition site.) The “double R” codons are HUMAN not CORONAVIRUS arginine (R)-coding. While Nature can do magic at times, this would be very impressive. Additionally the spike protein is also distinctly humanized for the human ACE-2 enzyme; SARS-CoV2 cannot infect the putative host species. While nothing can be ruled out, the virus appears to have been engineered, which is why “this DID NOT come out of a lab!” rang false across most of the scientific community from the start. However almost everyone who spoke out was severely censured by the “consensus” of those whose jobs and careers were at stake. If these experts had just stated that they didn’t know where SARS-CoV2 originated, rather than adamantly shrieking “this DID NOT come out of a lab!”, they would likely have avoided scrutiny for longer than a year.

    Fauci had an emergency meeting with a number of his funded coronavirus experts after some e-mailed him that the virus looked “engineered”. His e-mails concerning that meeting are totally redacted, but the same virologists who were concerned that the sequence suggested it came out of a lab, were among those who signed the letters (Fauci was supposedly involved, but did not sign). The much ballyhooed 2014 Gain of Function Moratorium was never applied to gain of function in bat coronaviruses.

    Danielle Anderson may honestly believe that the virus did not come out of the WIV. I spent much of my time in my scientific career working with Chinese scientists, who were generally very nice and open. However the government there enforces strict secrecy in many things (for example, after publishing the sequences of the virus from different initial patients, the Chinese scientists took their data out of the NIH database; that was probably at the behest of Those Above). And of course all those other international coronavirus experts LIED about “this DID NOT come out of a lab!” Anderson’s career may be even more on the line, if the virus was proven to be from China (unlikely at this date).

    Ron Unz notes the huge age variation in vulnerability to Covid-19, but didn’t note that the median age of victims (and average age in England and Wales) is 82: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/average-age-of-coronavirus-fatalities-is-82-pcwqrzdzz
    The risk of death if infected of an 80 year old is reportedly 1 in 6. By now most large Western cities have (partial) natural immunity (even before the vaccines) and only the Elderly and medically compromised are at much risk. The huge decrease in cases in the US between mid January and March, before vaccinations were prevalent, was almost surely due to natural immunity which likely protects all but the Vulnerable, who require vaccines.

    Asymptomatic and mild case carriers complicate the picture. Jay Bhattacharya early on was crucified for noting (by antibody assays; he knew the false positive and false negative rates so could correct for epidemiology study, but not say anything about individuals) that the number of people who had recovered from Covid-19 was 10-50-fold higher than diagnosed by PCR (which implied that Covid-19 was 10-50-fold less dangerous than thought). You have to focus on Covid-19 deaths, since “cases” are almost meaningless (and strangely after following all Covid-19 cases, the CDC now only wants to follow HOSPITALIZED vaccine breakthrough cases.) Wonder why Elites died only in Iran? We have plenty of Elderly in DC?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  155. @Alfred

    Utu is NOTHING if not a BigPharma, Russophobe, troll. Slander is pert of the job description. I do it for free, in cases like him.

  156. @Da's Reich

    Don’t really think that all the governments are in it together?

    Well, how come Russia is not publicizing the Ivermectin solution, and not manufacturing and distributing huge amounts?

    (Tablets, not liquid solution.)

    Those two, Putin and Biden, are two rats nestling in the same rat hole, aren’t they?

    Or they are equally senile, that’s why Putin is not trumpeting the obvious and very safe solution, right?

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  157. lysias says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Fauci is 80 years old. Why would he care about enriching himself?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @TTSSYF
  158. @Carlton Meyer

    The vaccine magnetic effect appears to be limited to the two mRNA ‘vaccines’ Pfizer and Moderna and after watching this video it appears to me so far,to be a real phenomen.The ‘fact checkers’ lie to begin with by putting words into the mouths of critics claiming they are insisting the magnetic effect is a microchip when in fact they are saying no such thing – they are simply saying something in the vaccine is causing a magnetic effect and it is not explained by the manufacturers list of ingredients.

    The Magnet Challenge. True of False? ‘Not On The Beeb’ investigates.

    [MORE]

    In my opìnon after over one year of this so called ‘pandemic’ covid-19’s barks are much less dangerous than the ‘vaccines’, illegally developed to combat it, bites.After all it has miraculously erased the common flu from the face of the earth.

    If not for the media,including unz.com and the medical globalists-fascists invading the house I live in on March 15,2020 like clockwork orange and leaving police ‘guarding and imprisoning us for two nweeks after that,I wouldn’t even know ‘covid-19’ even existed even now.

    As regards the Johnson and Johnson jab……….

    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/7/12/fda-expected-to-issue-new-warning-on-jj-covid-jab

    FDA expected to issue new warning on J&J COVID jab

    The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is preparing to issue a new warning for Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine, linking it to a rare autoimmune disorder, The Washington Post reported on Monday, citing four individuals familiar with the matter.

    The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said in a statement on Monday that about 100 preliminary reports of Guillain-Barre syndrome – a disorder in which the immune system attacks the nerves – have been detected after 12.8 million doses of J&J’s COVID-19 jab in the US……….

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Commentator Mike
  159. Anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre

    That’s not a graph. Holy crap dude LOL

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  160. TKK says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    IT
    IS
    HIS
    SITE!!!!!

    Unbelievable- the level of ungrateful arrogant crass craven moronic freak shows in the world.

    It would serve us right if he shut it down.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Poco
  161. Anon62 says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I also encountered that story so can confirm it was reported but is no longer to be found.

    One of the affected was a female cyclist who despite being very ill participated in her event. There were reports of five [??] others who were sick to the point they sought medical attention.

    The fact of attending a hospital does not indicate severity of illness. In China the medical system is organized differently than in the US. There are next to no physicians in private practice. If you are sick in China you do not head off to see your GP. You go to your local hospital for diagnosis and treatment. The claim by US Intelligence {??} that 3 staff of Wuhan Institute were so sick they required hospitalization and this hospitalization is supportive of a severe lab leak illness is a bogus claim and simply underscores that US Intelligence [??] has little knowledge of China.

    Finally the reports that members of the US Military Games team required treatment for [malaria ??] makes little sense.China has recently been certified to have eradicated malaria. This would not have been achieved if a major urban centre such as Wuhan documented 5 cases in 2019.

    • Thanks: Rabbitnexus
    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  162. Anon[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @lysias

    Do you know any actual greedy persons?

  163. @Alfred

    utu is a troll.

    You are right; Montagnier is no fool. In fact, that’s the last thing he is. He was the first to observe that the sars-cov-2 spike protein was genetically engineered.

    • Agree: Mark Hunter
  164. Balaji says:

    Are you not at risk from the powers that be? Would they not like to disappear you and this site? I hope you have a “dead nan switch” or some other mechanism to deter this from happening.

  165. @Triteleia Laxa

    Using the world’s most contagious virus as a bioweapon, against your biggest trade partner, and keeping borders open long after it has been discovered, and preparing in no other way, is utterly implausible behaviour.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the robust historical record shows that the devil-worshiping demon-possessed madmen that run the corrupt West do what reasonable people might see as “utterly implausible behaviour” on a regular basis.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  166. bayviking says:

    Laboratory engineered Covid, nicely designed to maximize economic damage. It almost seems much more likely than a natural variant, because there are too many coincidences to have happened by chance, according to Unz (and Karl Malden as Mike Stone always understood).

    Except in 2012 3 of 6 miners died while shoveling bat guano. When samples were taken of that virus, it was found to be identical to Covid-19, but cataloged separately in Chinese studies. Samples had been stored in Hunan freezers.

    All of which is overshadowed by the fact that that these Labs are another Government weapons against human beings. Like nuclear weapons they must be dismantled before more lives are destroyed. The USA has trained and funded the Wuhan Chinese lab. They are a culpable as China in this tragedy, which very well have leaked from Wuhan or any of several US labs.

    There is horrendous irony in the final outcome if Unz is correct. As China continues to thrive and grow, US conspirators have once again destroyed our economy.

  167. Ron Unz says:
    @WingsofADove

    A USA covid ‘lite’ could have been aimed at China, and another strain, ‘covid heavy’ could have been aimed at Iran. Because the second was more lethal it was also less infectious and would have mutated faster or died out.

    That’s actually been my own suspicion, which I’ve briefly alluded to in some of my articles. One possibility is that the more dangerous Iran strain was what spread back into the West and caused such serious casualties. But I haven’t seen any solid evidence supporting the hypothesis. It’s unfortunate that the interesting Forster article didn’t seem to include any Iranian clade.

    • Agree: Rabbitnexus
  168. @Ron Unz

    No different than the sudden and targeted illnesses at meat packing plants across the country. I thought to myself, “Really?… How odd”. Its quite possible somebody visited these places and released a virus unbeknownst among those working there. It seemed all together too convenient and coincidental to simply be random events.

    • Replies: @Anon62
  169. Ron Unz says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I recall a report of a half dozen US troops at Wuhan who did fall ill with “severe flu like symptoms” and were put into local hospital care. Then the story changed the very next day to Malaria.

    I certainly remember seeing that story was floating around the Internet, but I think it was probably just a heavily-distorted account of what actually happened.

    There were something like 9,000 foreign participants in the Wuhan Military Games, and a few of them got sick while there, which is hardly surprising. Naturally, as excitable people quoted and requoted the story on the Internet, it became Americans who got sick, and their symptoms were Covid, which seems pretty unlikely.

    Although pro-China activists have been promoting the story, a few months ago a couple of journalists from China’s Global Times investigated the whole issue and published an article about it:

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1221102.shtml

    According to the WHO report, during the Military Games, four African participants were diagnosed and treated for malaria, and one American citizen presented with gastroenteritis….

    Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital which received the foreign patients explained in February 2020 that the cases had nothing to do with COVID-19, following speculation that those foreign patients were carriers of the novel coronavirus.

    But according to the scientist, both malaria and COVID-19 could lead to fever and some COVID-19 patients do have stomach symptoms similar to gastroenteritis.

    While it’s possible, there really doesn’t seem to be any serious supportive evidence.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
    , @Anon62
  170. cassandra says:

    This article is disappointing compared with most of Ron’s fare. Although he recounts the resurgence of the natural origin theory reasonably completely, he omits his characteristic analytical critique, here of of the quality of the arguments the nature-proponents.

    A lot of the evidence cited in this article are opinionated pronouncements from experts, with very little discussion of evidence. These “arguments from opinion” are in the same genre as Dumas Malone’s argument that Jefferson could not have had an affair with Sally Hemmings, because Thomas Jefferson was a gentleman and a gentleman would never do such a thing. Plausible nonsense. They fail my own definition of an expert, as someone who has a strong enough intellectual grasp to present technical reasoning incisively enough to be clearly understood. Bret Weinstein is an example. Drosten, Fauci and Daszak are NOT in this class.

    [MORE]

    One can argue forever over how likely is the occurrence of an unlikely event. Just because highway safety protocols make accidents unlikely doesn’t mean they don’t happen. S**t happens, labs leak. The only question is how often.

    Christian Drosten’s opinions about laboratory virology are the weakest “expert” opinion. In fact, synthesis of something very much like SARS-Cov-2 was presented in the 2015 paper, “A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence”, co-authored by “Bat-lady” Zhengli-Shi and America’s own Ralph Baric. The work was started before the Gain-of-Function ban in the US, and allowed to be completed afterward.

    From the abstract: “Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein.”

    Either this was COVID’s gransfather, or there’s another ready for prime time.

    If natural, should there not be an animal carrier somewhere? How do you explain the furin cleavage site? What about genetic fingerprints that indicate that SARS-Cov-2 is an evolutionary orphan?

    Yuri Degin’s article still stands for me as one of the most complete descriptions of genetic evidence, and shows why lab origin is likely and natural origin improbable:
    https://yurideigin.medium.com/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

    Our fearless medical leadership ought to be framing their argument in these terms, instead of expecting pontification to sway our opinions

    I’m with Ron Unz, in thinking that the important question is whether the leak was accidental or deliberate. Whether the virus was made in a military or civilian lab, or to what extent those cites are at all separable, is, well, academic.

  171. My gut feeling is that this talk of bioweapons or lab leaks is simply cover and misdirection in order to move forward on a far more sinister agenda. It’s the straining for gnats and swallowing of camels sort of exercise. A global shell game.

    Bioweapon? I suspect if true then we would have people dropping dead left and right. And our erstwhile “leaders” would be shown to be even more useless than they already are but the power grab thats evident now wouldn’t be so well coordinated.

    Lab leak? Here again…. maybe but more of the same as above. But even if it were true… so what! We have an all too well coordinated effort to push a narrative based on lies. That takes time and conscious planning.

    We’re being constantly lied to. The navel gazing masses clamor for “answers” but they don’t really want to hear them. They think they’re smart and thats whats going to kill them.

    • Agree: John Fisher
  172. @Carlton Meyer

    The Youtube link is dead now; if that was about the magnets sticking to COVID jab sites, meh. That’s just progressives trolling anti-vaxxers, who have no way to test this short of having a pro vax friend and magnet handy right after the jab.

    If there was really a magnet problem, this would be official medical news as everyone would need to be convinced the magnetic effect is safe, not that it doesn’t exist.

    The fake magnet sticks with a bit of two-sided tape, honey, or similar adhesive not visible to the camera, not magnetism.

    The amount of ferrous material needed to make an ordinary fridge magnet stick magnetically is quite a bit. Magnets won’t stick to the chip on your credit card, for example. An injection of magnetic microbots or nanobots would similarly lack the strength to stick a magnet.

    It would be far more convincing to see a magnet stick to a syringe of vax, as magnets won’t stick to the stainless steel needle.

    The phenomenon has never been verified by any reliable source than the say-so of people who support the vaccine enough claim to have gotten the jab or otherwise troll the anti-vax movement.

  173. Mike Tre says:
    @Anonymous

    You didn’t end your sentence with a period, dude. Holy crap, you must be a fuckin’ moron! LOLOLOL!

    Care to address the point, or is this more your level of discussion?

  174. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I have a slight acquaintance and some correspondence with NS and might be able to get him to read your latest article, or, probably, to have a junior colleague do so. I would prefer to put him in touch with you to, ideally, at least get him to tackle Doherty seriously with your theory. How should I best go about effecting that if, after considering the linked interview, you would like to communicate with him.

    Sure, I’d be very glad if you could help get me in contact with him. My current article contains the most material, but given how long it is, my previous two might work as well.

    I’d be very glad to send him some information along with a few links.

    As for the discussion itself, Doherty seems very knowledgeable about immunization issues, but as I’ve mentioned Nobel Laureate David Baltimore is a virologist, and he saw strong evidence of bioengineering in the virus, as have (apparently) quite a number of other virologists. I don’t have any expertise myself, but I have a lot of confidence in Nicholas Wade’s overall judgment on the matter.

    It’s interesting that Swan seemed taken in by the latest anti-China propaganda that they were responsible for the 1977 Asian Flu outbreak, but that’s Doherty’s specialty, and he said it was total nonsense, the outbreak started in the USSR.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  175. Ron Unz says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Out of ignorance on the history of Moderna’s vaccine production I find this suspect: “Moderna’s groundbreaking coronavirus vaccine was designed in just 2 days.”

    I’ve seen these sorts of statements floating around and cited as proof of guilt. For example, some Israeli company claimed to have been working on exactly that sort of virus vaccine at the beginning of epidemic and would have it ready immediately. Everyone said that proved the Israelis did it.

    The problem is that business executives are always bragging/lying about how great they are, partly to boost their stock price and get additional investors. The Israeli company never deployed a vaccine, and Moderna didn’t seem to have one any sooner that four or five other companies.

    I don’t know anything about vaccines, but that would be my guess about the quote.

  176. @Anon62

    The malaria call came I think to cover the use of quinine in their treatment. It made no sense for any other reason. The severe flu like symptoms was what vanished from the report. I took it to mean they knew quinine worked. That was before I found out they definitely knew it worked. You can’t recall the publication by any chance? It might still be found on The Wayback Machine.

    • Replies: @Anon62
    , @Mehen
  177. Ron Unz says:
    @michael888

    From the start of the pandemic, numerous scientists pointed out that SARS-CoV2 was the only member of lineage B with a furin cleavage site; this consisted of an addition of 12 nucleotides (not likely from a simple mutation) creating new codons, leading to a polybasic insertion (PRRAR; a furin recognition site.) The “double R” codons are HUMAN not CORONAVIRUS arginine (R)-coding. While Nature can do magic at times, this would be very impressive…Fauci had an emergency meeting with a number of his funded coronavirus experts after some e-mailed him that the virus looked “engineered”. His e-mails concerning that meeting are totally redacted, but the same virologists who were concerned that the sequence suggested it came out of a lab, were among those who signed the letters

    I don’t have technical expertise in that area, but that’s very much my impression based upon the Wade, Baker, and other articles. There seems to have been a great deal of pressure on virologists to not see what was in front of their eyes.

    Ron Unz notes the huge age variation in vulnerability to Covid-19, but didn’t note that the median age of victims (and average age in England and Wales) is 82:

    Actually, I did say that something like half of all fatalities seem to be in their late 70s or older.

    Danielle Anderson may honestly believe that the virus did not come out of the WIV.

    I think the most crucial points she made was that the WIV safety protocols seemed absolutely excellent, contrary to the claims floating around the media, and also that the rumor of three researchers falling ill with Covid-like symptoms in November 2019 was entirely false. I’d take her direct personal evidence over those sorts of vague claims floating around. She was also extremely skeptical of any lab leak and thought it very unlikely WIV was working on a virus like Covid.

    Disinterested eyewitness testimony trumps vague rumors promoted by intelligence agencies and activist groups.

    • Replies: @michael888
  178. @Ron Unz

    I still have my suspicions, mainly because it was so early when I read this. I first read about it in January. I’d never heard of the Wuhan Games prior to that and the article I read referred to a report from late in 2019. I followed the reference and that was to an Army journal I’m even more certain today. The original story and the update next day were from before the declared pandemic. I was buying the whole story having nothing else at the start and do have a lot of science including virology in my swag. I took notice not because it was once again, from a CRISPR lab, which I stated in January was not debatable for the same reasons Professor Luc Montagnier said the same 6 months later. It was in fact the tone of the media reporting and sudden focus of the political world which really got my full attention. It seemed way bigger in some way than SARS or Bird Flu for which I went back to sleep after a couple of weeks. I was soaking up everything, including every theory or supposed inside story. I watched the development of some of these and how some failed to gain traction while others got the royal treatment. Even if that means media debunking. That is a sign usually they want people to grab onto that if they don’t buy the official narrative. The Chinese didn’t introduce any new ideas as I saw it, instead they adopted some of what was already being said by others. They began implying a US source rather clumsily and with entirely different emphasis before settling on what was already circulating in this regard. The analysis by Reiner Fuellmich’s company as told here I think ends the debate about where it was made and by who though for the record. There’s a lot in this Ron, if you’ve not seen it I suggest you do. This is the bomb.
    https://catherineedwards.life/aiovg_videos/a-manufactured-illusion-dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich-9-7-21/

    I am not any great shakes in microbiology but it is so obvious this is man made, any professional saying otherwise is simply lying or a fraud.

  179. Ron Unz says:
    @Sparkylyle92

    On balance I agree with Ron’s thesis that an American biowarfare attack was involved. But it is difficult to understand how such a poor decision could be undertaken. The blowback has weakened the US relative to China, and this should not have been difficult to predict. At the beginning of the pandemic I predicted the US response would be wildly incompetent, annd I was not mistaken.

    Actually, international organized ranked America and the UK being the best prepared to cope with an epidemic, while China was considered much more vulnerable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/america-first-in-epidemic-preparedness/

    The US is really great at propaganda, but unfortunately its officials often tend to believe it.

    • Replies: @Tdstype2
  180. @Caspar von Everec

    1st of all, if that was the case and the US treated it as a bioweapon to start wtih, why didn’t they close travel with China in January or february of 2020? Trump suggested it and they responded with accusations of fascism and how borders don’t stop diseases apparently.

    Trump did impose some travel restrictions on travelers from mainland China on Feb. 2, 2020. Most likely he couldn’t do anything more drastic because the virus was apparently already in the U.S. and he needed to admit some potentially infected travelers for the sake of plausible deniability.

    If its truly this terrifying weapon, then the American elite which is disproportionately old should fear it more than anyone else. They would’ve been willing to close the borders at the first chance.

    The “elite” are not reasonable people but demon-possessed devil-worshiping madmen. If they are willing to risk nuclear war with Russia and/or China in pursuit of their Satanic agenda (consider Trump’s nuclear brinkmanship which continues under Biden) why would they not be willing to risk the consequences of unleashing a bioweapon on their “enemies”?

    Second, if the plan is to slow down China or to build a global consensus against it, it would stand to logic that the US elites would seek to decouple from China using COVID as an excuse. They’d call the Chinese evil communists trying to destroy the world economy and sanction her or place tarrifs (sic) on her.

    Isn’t that basically what they’re trying to do?

  181. denk says:

    The cabal exonerated jap unit 731 criminals in exchange for their treasure dome of bio warfare data.
    They lose no time using it on Chinese and NK civilians in the Korean war.

    sobs have never stopped crapping all kind of shits on the Chinese ever since.

    SARS1
    http://www.fromthewilderness.net/free/ww3/050903_SARS.html
    http://www.whale.to/v/sars1.html
    http://whale.to/a/sars2.htm

    H7N9, H5N1, HxNx….
    2017
    Mysterious “Weaponized” Virus Sweeps World As Bill Gates Warns 30 Million Will Die
    [Behind every pandemic lurks a FUKUS GOF proj]
    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2242.htm

    [MORE]

    bubonic , again,
    US builds bubonic plague lab close to Chinese border – and to Yumen City in Gansu province
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140924233213/https://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/us-builds-bubonic-plague-lab-close-to-chinese-border-and-to-yumen-city-in-gansu-province/

    https://www.salon.com/2014/07/23/pneumonic_plague_puts_chinese_town_on_lockdown/

    Then SARS2 popped up ,at the right place [Wuhan] and the right time [CNY].
    Perfect plausibe deniability.

    After an avalanche of H5N1, H7N9, swine flu, army worms had already devastated Chinese food supply chain, after the trade blitzkrieg had failed to smash the Chinese hi tech network, the virus pop up right at the time of peak migration, the CNY.
    Sorry,
    tHIS defy the Ian Fleming’s fundamental law of probability.

    Gotta be a bio attack from the UsualSuspects/
    ————–

    Agree with skrik, Ultrafart the Brave, Alfred, miro23, Harod Smith etc etc
    Just a quick scan over the comments..
    might’ve missed out others.

    PS
    army worms are native to North murikka.

  182. @Ultrafart the Brave

    FYI…. R. Fuellmich is a practicing lawyer, not a Doctor.

    This is an interesting read. https://www.aeginagreece.com/aegina-island/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Transcript-testimony-Reiner-Fuellmich-.pdf

    I agree with your assessment in comment #82. I have deduced the same.

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  183. Great article. Fifth Generation/Hybrid warfare, is where civilians become the agents and objects of war over – yet still alongside – the formal military. Command and control is decentralized such that rogue factions, at least in the West, feel far freer and empowered to ‘save’ and ‘change’ the world.

    The COVID-19 attack on China was ultimately aimed at the United States and Western liberty by neocon Globalists. Far worse for the West than COVID-19, is COVID-1984.

    China was already a police state; the pretext of medical tyranny was almost redundant except to roll back expanding civil liberties. Perhaps under threat of scrutiny in China, was CCP collusion with Western oligarchs, especially Europe’s financial dynasties. However, the independence of the free world was a far greater threat to the Western financialist oligarchy.

    Despite extreme wealth disparity, the Information Age brought information parity and with that, greater elite accountability as they lost overwhelming narrative control.

    Europe’s financial aristocracy is attempting its own imperial renewal at America’s expense, but also against what America stood for as the embodiment of the Western Enlightenment. There is no Globalism, only Europe First imperialism. Globalism is a nice safe inclusive term that fools many into thinking its a greater good. Mackinderan doctrine leaves the imperial powers of Western Europe few other options to stay on top of world civilization than manic 5G hybrid warfare.

    Lacking geographical base, Europe’s financial aristocracy needs to own by soft power as much rival territory as possible while sabotaging them such that Europe First can always come up the middle. Especially of the more natural geopolitical giants; the United States, Russia, India, and China. All while keeping Europe’s own lower and middle classes and the developing world from catching up, or where caught up, preventing them from fully owning, enjoying and leveraging socio-economic power. Especially the power of information.

    COVID-1984, therefore, is critical to the future success of Europe First oligarchy.

    The whole ‘reset’ narrative took off as if already there in whole cloth, ready to go from the start. Every Globalist pawn across borders and social strata got something to play along; Western leftists thought they were going to overthrow capitalism, sinophobes thought they were attacking China, progressive social engineers got to waste useless eaters and expand police statism.

    China’s CCP can’t be that innocent. Euro globalists could never have pulled this off without enjoying the same degree of internal penetration and collusion against Chinese patriots as they enjoyed against Western patriots. China has become the poster child and testing grounds for ideas on Western authoritarianism beyond Marxist police statism.

    The CCP mantra, ‘Socialism with Chinese characteristics’, openly states that Chinese-ness is just an affectation to the CCP Marxist New Man. This is little better than Western crony capitalist Mc-culturalism, which also has no use for humanitarian quality of person beyond expendable worker-consumer.

    COVID-1984 is politicized disaster capitalism, mis-Bastiatian broken-windows economics on steroids that redistributes influence, wealth and power to window breakers and window fixers over everyone else. COVID-1984 must be defied, ended, and its enablers brought to account, or there will be no end to engineered plagues topping off every other engineered crisis.

    • Replies: @Kali
  184. Erebus says:

    It’s somewhat surprising to me how little consideration is given to the hypothesis that it was indeed an attack, but not on China by the US, or vice versa, or any state on any other, but on the entire world (particularly the developed world) by a supra-national group or loosely coordinated amalgam of such groups with the goal of changing the way the world works.

    If one leaves the binary universe of China/USA, bioweapon/zoonotic origin, intentional/accidental release, etc and their corollaries, and takes a wider (dare I say global) view of the totality of the evidence, one finds oneself compelled to the notion of an attack on every state and its internal socio-political norms and also on the international systems within which states relate to one another.

    Such an attack could only be contemplated by a group(s) who’s members don’t necessarily identify strongly with any nation, but live globally. If they think of any particular nation at all, it is in the abstract and in the context of the global issue being considered.

    Such a group(s) would naturally employ useful rogue-wannabee idiots from a variety of key nations whose nationalistic/ideological predilections would lead them to playing their allotted role in the execution of a vastly larger plan quite organically without having much of an inkling about the workings, much less the goals of the latter.

    Such a group(s) would also make sure to include carefully thought out narrative management in their plans, and narrative management in their case would include allowing, indeed steering those who would question matters to bog themselves down in just the sort of binary discussions I find myself recently refusing to be bogged down in.

    • Agree: Kali, Mehen
    • Replies: @orchardist
  185. Alfred says:
    @Ron Unz

    Unfortunately, you were just too lazy to even bother reading my long article

    My apologies. I have read so many of your standard scripts that I did lose my patience. 🙁

    The history of patents as described so well by Dr David Martin demolishes any pretense that this thing is some sort of random event. Work in this direction started at least 20 years ago. This is undoubtedly a bioweapon. The vaccines of the West are nothing of the sort – just as professor Montagnier maintains.

    [MORE]

    Here it is once more.

    Dr David Martin | Dr Reiner Fuellmich – July 9, 2021

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html

    Nobel Prize Winner Prof Luc Montagnier (Dicoverer of HIV)

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/nobel-prize-winner-prof-luc-montagnier-dicoverer-of-hiv_M5N2ULAWlGAgSGn.html

    • Agree: Ultrafart the Brave
  186. @Sollipsist

    Biowarfare as geopolitical game, sure. But why so little mention of simple lust for money and power as a motive?

    What “money” and what “power” did the “U.S. government” get from the Vietnam war, the war against Afghanistan or the war against Iraq for example? Evil people do what they do because they’re evil.

    It doesn’t take a complex clandestine effort to coordinate the leaders of various countries to realize that lockdown = increased consolidation of wealth and power.

    What “increased consolidation of wealth and power” are you talking about?

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  187. utu says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    “There’s nothing particularly opaque about Deigin.” – Yes, his bio is pretty clear that he could not be the sole author of the long document he posted on his Medium account (April 22, 2020). Ron Unz’s instincts were correct that it must have been a collaborative effort and that Deigin was just a front man. Wade acknowledges this suspicion but dismisses it and fully endorses Deigin’s document in acknowledgements. So who was Deigin fronting for? How was it arranged and orchestrated? Why the true authors did not publish it under their names? I do not know but there are few clues.

    In the 2nd half of 2020 Deigin began to publish articles with Rossana Segreto who is a post doc at the U. of Graz in Austria. She always is the lead author. There are other coauthors: Dan Sirotkin and Karl Sirotkin. It seems that Dan is Karl’s son. And Karl throughout his carrier was involved in bioinformatics. My impression is that he is indeed a mathematician. In 1988 he was Theoretical Division, Los Alamos National Laboratory and Department of Microbiology and Graduate Program in Cellular, Molecular and Developmental Biology, University of Tennessee Knoxville. Later publications where he is a coauthor list his affiliation as National Center for Biotechnology Information (NIH), Bethesda. MD but in 2010 also University Clinic of Blood Group Serology and Transfusion Medicine, Medical U. of Graz where perhaps he was a visiting scholar. This gives us connection between Segreto and Sirotkin. There is no affiliation for Dan and Karl in Degin’s papers, just a private address in Florida.

    Are Rossana Segreto and Karl Sirotkin real authors of the Deigin’s document? How did they get connected with Deigin? Who picked whom? This brings us to the strange case of Dan Sirotkin. First this is what Dan Sirotkin writes about himself at his Harvard to the Big House blog:

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/contact-2/
    Social and geopolitical analysis and commentary from the ex-con who caught the virological community with their pants down, and left the NSA in 2006 to sound the alarm about the inevitability of racial inequality in America tearing us apart.

    From the very beginning of the pandemic Dan Sirotkin on his blog was pushing the WIV/bioweapon theory giving support to everything that was coming from the ZeroHedge. Why the Big House?

    Md. Coach (Daniel Sirotkin) Gets 7 Years In Girl’s Sex Abuse (Sept 2014)
    https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/09/17/md-coach-to-be-sentenced-in-girls-sex-abuse/

    It is possible that he was still on parole and finding and keeping employment was hard. In Oct 2018 he published his letter to a judge about his parole:

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2018/10/23/theres-no-going-back/

    My crime wasn’t just a betrayal of my and my victim’s families, it was a betrayal of our entire communities ….

    I think I have a unique perspective to write from being that not many Harvard graduates end up serving two-and-a-half-years in a state prison …

    Included with this letter is a list of the books I’ve read during my incarceration which tie into my future freelance writing career…

    And in addition to these books my father has sent in several dozen Wikipedia articles….

    As far as deterrence goes, with my father’s help I’ve contacted roughly 100 different college coaches and athletic directors in Maryland hoping to come talk to their athletes about not making the mistakes that I did, or other mistakes that involve sex offenses on their own campuses…

    His letter indicates that he has no clue about his situation but knows that a chutzpah often works in our society. Strange thing about sex crimes and the covid debate. No different form another impactful on the covid debate individual, the Metallicman who took a refuge in China after jumping parole in the US. The Metallicman intuited and insinuated the theory of the biowarfare attach on China before Ron Unz. Both Metallicman and David Sirotkin argue on the sides the states that control their destiny like.

    Somebody else looked into Dan Sirotkin:

    Harvard Graduate Dan Sirotkin Backs COVID-19 Whistleblower Dr. Li-Meng Yan’s Claims in a ‘Peer-Reviewed’ Essay —Credibility Questioned (Sept 2020)
    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/252681/20200919/harvard-graduate-dan-sirotkin-backs-covid-19-whistleblower-dr-li.htm

    The first job listing on Sirotkin’s profile shows that he was a former correctional janitor for the Montgomery County Government for three years from 2015-2017. Sirotkin’s next two jobs are for Season 52 and Cafe Mozart as a Food Server or waiter before facing termination after his criminal records are discovered.

    Why on earth Karl Sirotkin and Yuri Deigin put Dan Sirotkin as a coauthor? Who is really in the driving seat of the Sirotkin, Segreto, Deigin project?

    As far as their argument which is not different from what Steven Quay tried to do it is all about the furin cleavage site. Coronoviruses do have furin cleavage site. But it seems that Covid-19 is the first beta-coronavirus with the furin cleavage site. Steven Quay tried to calculate the improbability of such sequence arising at random which was not different form the efforts of intelligent design advocates who argue about improbability of evolution using monkeys and typewriters. Steven Quay could have applied the same argument to coronaviruses that have the furin cleavage site and conclude that they are impossible while clearly they do exist so they must be a result of intelligent design. Probabilities can be very misleading and tricky. That’s why I think David Baltimore reversed his position. It takes a biologist to know and appreciate that mutations and inserts occur in real environment and can’t be easily reduced to mathematical probabilities which are not really known. Biological clock does not run uniformly and sometimes it speeds up.

    Furthermore Deigin insinuates that the virus precursor RaTG13 that Shi Zhengli revealed in January 2020 as a virus discovered and sequenced in 2013 is a fake digitally composed sequence.

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  188. @Olger

    The typo is not as bad as that in RP Kadlec’s essay, Twenty First Century Germ Warfare (cited by Unz) where Kadlec incorrectly assigns the Asian tiger mosquito under the genus Anopheles (the malarial mosquito). With science like that no doubt the bioweapon will blow sideways!

    • LOL: John Fisher
  189. @Tony Ryals

    I’m sure this kid never took the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine:

    [MORE]

  190. @Kali

    Is that Kali from the Portuguese highlands? If so, why the change in username?

    • Replies: @Kali
  191. Rahan says:
    @Dumbo

    I find it very, very hard to believe that whoever created or spread this disease didn’t know that, or at least wasn’t strongly aware of such possibility.
    Therefore, the conclusion is that this was not an “attack on Iran or China”, but a global operation from the start.

    This depends on how do we interpret Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and so on. Were these caused by:
    a) incompetent morons?
    b) corrupt assholes?
    c) psychopaths with a big agenda?
    d) a combination of all three?

    Same for the current viral pneumonia-related great reset. I personally tend to view the whole thing as a combination of all three.

    The incompetent morons are told “let’s do X because of Y”, the corrupt assholes go along because doing X will bring Z levels profits and career climbing, and the big agenda psychopaths use the incompetent and the corrupt in order to bring about the situation they wish to bring about.

    Thus it’s a question of dividing the people doing this into three categories. What is being done due to incompetence, what is being done due to corruption, and what is being done as part of the overall big agenda in which the incompetent and the corrupt play their parts.

    Thus you for example:
    1) Convince incompetent morons hey, let’s hit China, it’ll stay there just like SARS did
    2) You convince corrupt assholes, hey, let’s make a ton of money from masks and vaccines by pretending the virus is worse than it really is
    3) All the while pushing forward your own big agenda to do with for example suffocating Western economies and freedoms to 1974 USSR levels, and economic situation of normal folks to neo-feudal neo-pleb levels.

    Very likely preparing the ground for a shift from a few years of “just two more weeks” to “we shall continue all of this indefinitely in order to save Mother Earth”.

    Plus, big players tend to make plans heads I win tails you lose. In the sense of if China had screwed up and allowed the virus to scramble it this was “I win”, but even if China did the impossible and handled the virus, it’s still “you lose” for the Western portion of the feeding ground.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  192. Anonymous[833] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    That would be a common literary expression connoting someone competent for the job of leading his country and solving problems rather than precipitating disaster, Mr. Mumblebrain. Someone who does not shoot first before even saying hello. Perhaps no such person exists in the world’s only exceptional country, but Putin comes close in his neck of the woods, as does Xi in his. In America, those veiled elites in charge of selecting its “front man” prefer choosing barbarians. It’s sad, I don’t think it will ever change in my lifetime.

  193. utu says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    This pandemic has revealed that there are plenty of charlatans amongst professional epidemiologists. Mathematicians and physicists do better epidemiology,

    Most theoretical epidemiologist are mathematicians. That Sunetra Gupta (professor of theoretical epidemiology in the Department of Zoology at the University of Oxford) or John Ioannidis (National Award of the Greek Mathematical Society) turned to charlatanry was not their lack of mathematical knowledge but their weaknesses and flaws of character. In the case of Ioannidis it was his contrarian hubris and vanity and in the case of Gupta it was her entanglement with a segment of British deep sate that wanted to impede and sabotage the policy of mitigation. But they survived and are very popular in libertarian and neo-liberal circles and supported by the network of Koch organizations.

    I agree though that physicists and mathematicians write better papers because they actually understand what they are doing. For example the paper on the IFR of Covid-19 from Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore physicists was better than anything else I read on the subject.

    Cliodynamics? Really? You have a tendency of nullifying your own arguments with excess and absurdity which comes from your need to be noticed. The enfant terrible syndrome?

  194. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Ro , you could counter this defamatory account of your writings with 100% assurance but can you do us all a favour by automatic censorship of the obviously mad. I suggest “Rothschild” used as it is to mean something like “disguised Satan in human form” should be enough. But either half of “It is estimated that Rothschild has 500 trillion in assets. The idea that anything happens without his approval or support is laughable.” should seal it.

    Actually you could, alternatively, add to entertainment value, by regularly calling up a clinical psychiatrist with clout to give us a diagnosis when something as ludicrous arrives in Comments. I know you have editorial freedom and personal confidence to label Commenters ridiculous persons but that is to squander your persuasive talent by what strictly assessed is at best Krugmanesque handwaving. Do please wheel up the true expert witness, preferably with the added spice of wit.

  195. @Branko

    There are lazy obscurantists on this thread Ike many UR threads which attract them like the obsessives they often are. I Google for “how many suicides has the pandemic caused” and the BMJ gave me this in 10 seconds:

    “Views And ReviewsWhat has been the effect of covid-19 on suicide rates?BMJ 2021; 372 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n834 (Published 29 March 2021)Cite this as: BMJ 2021;372:n834

    Read our latest coverage of the coronavirus outbreak

    ArticleMetricsResponses

    Louis Appleby, professor of psychiatryAuthor [email protected]
    Follow Louis Appleby on Twitter @ProfLAppleby

    Suicide rates haven’t risen, but we should be cautious

    Not a week passes without a story in the press about the impact of covid-19 on suicide. Claims on social media seem to appear daily. A year into the pandemic, what is the evidence? The short answer is that there has been little effect. But it’s more complex than that, as it always is with suicide statistics.

    Firstly, it’s important to stress that the graphs and figures that are used to answer this question are not dry data. They represent real lives lost, real families devastated. No suicide rate, whether high or low, rising or falling, is acceptable. Even before covid-19, there were over 6000 deaths by suicide per year in the UK, an estimated 800 000 worldwide.1

    From the earliest days of the pandemic there was concern that suicide would increase.2 It wasn’t hard to see where the risks might come from: anxiety about infection, isolation, disrupted care, domestic violence, alcohol, recession. Actual figures, though, took months to appear. Now we have reports from several countries, based on national or state level suicide data. They come from Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Sweden, and the US—high income countries in most cases—and they carry a consistent message. Suicide rates have not risen.3…..”

    It defies common sense to explain the 2020 rise in deaths without the only known likely cause. Speculation about the number of false diagnoses of causes of death is entirely inconclusive because almost certainly competent scientists have dismissed the exact figures as irrelevant.

    • Replies: @Dnought
  196. sb says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    I haven’t done a proper survey but have formed a strong impression that Dr Norman Swan ( Australian public television’s resident Jewish, Scottish , qualified paediatrician but now full time heath commentator ) is very popular with those who lack a STEM background and very much not so by those who do

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  197. Sarah says:

    This situation carried disturbing echoes of how those same mainstream media organs had played a similar role twenty years ago in fostering the hoax of Saddam’s WMD and promoting our disastrous Iraq War. Indeed, I found it rather ironic that one of the main Trump Administration Covid experts quoted in that article and others was David Feith, whose father Douglas Feith had been one of the leading Neocons involved in that notorious Bush Administration intelligence fraud. Moreover, the lead author of the front-page Wall Street Journal story that helped to revive the lab-leak theory in late May was Michael R. Gordon, who had previously shared a byline with Judith Miller on most of the fraudulent Iraqi WMD stories that had propelled us into war. And in early 2020, former Mossad agent Dany Shoham had been one of the earliest figures suggesting that Covid was a Chinese bioweapon leaked from the Wuhan lab, with few remembering that in 2001 he had falsely fingered Saddam’s regime as the source of the Anthrax mailings. It almost seemed that members of the old Iraqi WMD cast were reassembling for a revival.

    This is one of the key passages of the article. It could be funny to see the same journalists who accused Iraq of threatening the USA with WMD, accusing today China of being at the origin of the Covid-19.
    It would be funny if it had not had horrible consequences and it could not lead to new horrible consequences.

  198. Dumbo says:
    @izzy

    “Go home and wait until you’re really sick” is not standard practice.

    Yeah, I thought I was the only one who thought that “stay home and do nothing until you feel so bad that you need to go to the hospital to be ventilated” was a weird way to treat a disease.

    In other news, cases are supposedly rising again even in countries such as Israel, with 60% of the people fully vaccinated. They blame the “delta” variant which supposedly kills even vaccinated people, and “vaccine effectiveness” was reduced to 64%… And these are the official numbers.

    It seems that this is still going to continue for a while now, next winter probably new lockdowns or something worse.

  199. utu says:
    @MLK

    Se non è vero, è ben trovato or in other words you say nothing though it reads well.

    • Replies: @MLK
  200. Sarah says:

    Another key passages of the article:

    Given our ongoing military and geopolitical confrontation with China, America seems the likely source of the attack. However, once the virus eventually reached our own country, President Trump’s completely lackadaisical response demonstrated that he himself had absolutely no idea that he was confronting the threat of a dangerous bioweapon, thereby proving his own personal innocence.

    Or…diverting attention from him; remember his thunderous statements: “the Chinese virus”, “the virus of the CCP”. Weren’t these unproven and defamatory accusations?

    The most likely suspects would be rogue elements of our national security establishment, probably some of the Deep State Neocons whom Trump had placed near the top of his administration

    It is me who put a passage in bold.

  201. @Ron Unz

    Sorry but it would seem that Cass Sustain’s “Cognitive Infiltration” is here at work…overtime!
    Sad…very sad…and one can reckon…very afraid!

  202. Anon62 says:
    @InnerCynic

    Virii are known to degrade on exposure to UV radiation such as is found in natural sunlight. Abbotoirs tend to be large warehouse like buildings with limited sun exposure.

    SARS-CoV2 is reported to prefer cold and humid environments. An abbotoir is normally fed with chilled air and humidity levels are high to avoid drying the meat and to slow natural decomposition of the the animal carcass.

    The high incidence of COVID in meatpacking plants is therefore likely due to the characteristics of that working environment rather than the diabolical machinations of Bill Gates and friends.

    It must be noted that the northern hemisphere decline in infections is likely shaped by the fact it is now summer with a high degree of insolation and relatively high temperatures, environmental conditions unconducive to the spread of the virus. Once we return to the dark days of winter with cold temperatures and reduced sunlight it is expected there will be an increase in infections with a concommitant demand for masks, vaccine boosters, forced isolation, curtailed public events, increased reporting of fellow citizens behaving badly, draconian movement controls, the shuttering of all forms of commerce other than those centered on digital transactions and increased demands to punish China for the conditions imposed upon us by our authoritarian government.
    C’est la vie!

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  203. Anon62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    some COVID-19 patients do have stomach symptoms similar to gastroenteritis.

    The majority of COVID affected experience GI problems such that it is now accepted that testing of urban wastewater flows can provide advance notice of a pending viral outbreak.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  204. Anon62 says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I followed a process similar to the one you described at the onset of the pandemic. Trying to puzzle out the degree of severity and hazard exposure resulted in the perusal of a lot of web sites.

    I think that it was a military related web publication but am unable to recollect the name.

    Cheers!

  205. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:

    KDear Mr Unz,
    Please allow me to try a different aproach.

    You have, in my opinion, correctly identified that at least one lab engineered virus was deliberately released in China and Iran in late 2019.

    I’m not convinced that you have gone far enough along the “who done it” line of enquiry, but you seem at least to be in the right ballpark when you suggest “deep state” involvement.

    That is the beginning of the story, which you have covered very well in several essays since spring 2020. But there are so many questions yet to be exored regarding the extent of the impacts of that initial attack.

    The ongoing medical, political, economic and social impacts of that biowarfae attack continue to fundamentally reshape the lives of hunderds of millions of people throughout the political west in so many ways., with highly questionable data being used to justify those on-going and wide-ranging changes to the way we live.

    In the meantime, known and effective treatments for the illness caused by that biowarfare attack continue to be deliberately supressed, whilst billions are being spent on the roll out of experimental vaccine technogy which is actuall doing more harm to more people than the initial attack, if reports from medical whistke-blowers are to be believed.

    [MORE]

    Simultaniously, certain prominant globalists appear (if they are to be believed) to be using this increadibly over-hyped crisis to “reset” the economic and social peramiters of the entire western world.

    All of the above, and more besides, calls into question the notion that the initial attack was primerally an attack on China/Iran and all the rest is nothing other than blowback.

    The efforts of our political, corporate and economic “elites”, together with their media organs, have been far to well coordinated and uniform across national boundries to be mearly coincidental.

    I could go on, but I want to keep this note as breif as possible because I actually want you to read it.

    So many question need to be asked, so many “conspiracy theories” need to be explored, so many prominant scientists, medical practitioners and statisticiabs need to be heard as they blow the whistle and point out the massive inconsistancies in many aspects of this world-changing event.

    To be sure, cognative infiltration has created a minefield which makes the exploration of these things rather dangerous. It’s much easier, I know, to accept the “deadly pandemic” narrative, particularly when one has a hard-earned reputation to maintain. But you have explored many other potentially reputation-destroying topics throughout your American Pravda series, and your reputation, I believe, has been enhansed as a result.

    So please, Mr Unz, I implore yoy, I beg you, in all sincerity, to go further in your analysis of this biowarfare attack to explore the many, many ways it is being used by our “elites” to reshape our lives, and draw whatever conclusions you may.

    To dismiss such important questions out-of-hand, as you seem to be doing and as our media conglomerations do, amounts to a disservice to your readers and to your excellent efforts to expose the ongoing “American Pravda”.

    Please at least consider the possibility that this is all a highly sophisticated, well organised and coordinated effort on the part of those same hidden powers that shaped the 20th century to consilidate their power in the 21st.

    Many thanks,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Kali
  206. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Kali

    And please forgive the horrible, horrible typos which litter my comment!

  207. @peterike

    I think I know a bit more about the motivations of politicians than most people on UR threads and I think I picked it one early last year when, with particular concentration on Australian state and federal governments, I saw the need for polling to avoid being blamed by voters at the next election whether it was a result of daily beatups in the media about tearful people who didn’t value an early inheritance from old Granny or the loss of employment. I don’t think I fully appreciated how popular state governments could make themselves in terms of approval ratings and potential votes by imposing tough conditions at borders and even in Victoria’s mismanaged case early necessary lockdowns. Still, though not doing it brilliantly politicians would be aiming to win the next election.

    Your figuring is entirely theoretical so far as it tells you how to assess the state of public opinion and the all important voting intentions. And you have made a grandiloquent overstate.ent. just consider your “an extra 500K deaths is a non-event that effects nothing whatsoever”. Not so fast: 3000 extra deaths on 9/11 had huge effects. You may claim that people’s perceptions caused that, and you might be right but, equally, news from all round the world, as well as insular USA, would have produced fear and confusion which as countries like Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand as well as many others have shown lock downs can effectively counter. (A pity Australia has fallen behind on vaccination).

  208. @The Real World

    Thanks for that link – a good read indeed.

    I hope for Fuellmich’ sake that he has proper personal security.

    [MORE]

    FYI…. R. Fuellmich is a practicing lawyer, not a Doctor.

    Going on the link text ( https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html ) and the text on the video site, I’d hazard a guess that he is both. Whatever the details, it seems he’s got a doctorate of some sort.

    This isn’t unusual at the elite levels of these professions. For example, Dr.Richard Fleming, who conducted the Event 2021 Corona Chan Information Conference, is also a practicing attorney, as is another high profile (lady) anti Corona Chan activist doctor whose name I can’t recall just now.

    https://thehighwire.com/videos/live-from-event-2021-in-dallas-tx/

    The way things are going, the more legal know-how the medics have, and the more medical knowledge the lawyers have, the better.

    And God help the politicians.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  209. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    “Don’t really think that all the governments are in it together?”

    Only in so far as they are all owned to varying degrees by those with the purse strings of the world.

    And with regard to Putin, I can’t say, I’m not sure of the extent to which he has to pander to the ‘purse string mafia’.

  210. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Brockland A.T.

    Excellent comment.

    There is no Globalism, only Europe First imperialism. Globalism is a nice safe inclusive term that fools many into thinking its a greater good.

    Interesting perspective too.
    As is your differentiation between covid19 and covid1984, which I will make good use of from now on.

    Thank you.

    Kind regards,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  211. Dumbo says:
    @Rahan

    Maybe.

    But, who profited from it? (Cui bono)?

    Big Pharma and Big Tech (Amazon, Google, Fb etc), and governments (who now have much more power over the common citizen).

    And who had documents planning for the “eventuality of a coronavirus global pandemic” MANY years before 2019?

    Big Pharma, Big Tech, and several governments. (Sure, this doesn’t prove intent, but the way they responded from the pandemic was very similar to such simulations).

    So, it makes sense to believe that the culprits were Big Pharma, Big Tech and the U.S./Western governments in collusion, perhaps with other entities or government. Perhaps China was involved from the start, perhaps not. I really don’t know.

    Perhaps a “small cabal of rogue neocons”, as Mr. Unz says, did it, BUT the idea that they were unaware that there would be a global blowback and would be limited to China / Iran is disingenuous. If they did it, they really wanted to hit the whole world (or counted that possibility as a likely result).

    Oh well, I don’t know anymore.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  212. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    And all along I thought that Homeopathy was mere suggestion. As you say, I hate this discovery that water has memory. You have upset my mental balance. Now I see it! Of course, Water must remember everything! That must be why it is the universal solvent! That is why it is WET!

  213. Wokechoke says:
    @Anonymous

    The numbers could just be the first die off of the boomer cohorts.

    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
  214. Kali [AKA "Unpersoned by fb"] says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Yes, this is the same Kali. I’ll explain bow a “more” tag.

    [MORE]

    By the time my fb account was removed (I suspect because I shared a link to a forbes article reporting facebooks removal of 1.3 BILLION accounts) I’d not commented on UR for quite some time.
    I was acctually quite upset by my fb ban (because its yet another wedge separating me from my now ‘global’ family) and wanted to highlight the technological totalitanarianism we now face.

    Basically the change in username was a folly… and a mistake, as it has already caused confussion for other commenters.

    Maybe I’ll ask out host to merge my comments under my Kali username.

    Hope this finds you well Mike.

    Fond regards,
    Kali.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  215. Wokechoke says:
    @Anon62

    There’s a lot of video footage of Chinese researchers spelunking in batcaves. Cool damp areas like sewers. Only needed one over eager moron to bring this catastrophe out of the mouth of hell to do this.

  216. @Harold Smith

    Thank you for summarising the true and single basis for his arguments. “This completely circumstantial evidence for my theories, which experts see as irrelevant, is actually crucial and true, because all of my other equally flimsy theories say that the people running the West have every trait I hate so much that I deny them in myself.”

    What is interesting is that most of Ron’s acolyte’s allege evilness, because they see themselves as too good and perfect, while Ron himself alleges complete incompetence, because Ron sees himself as just too brilliant for this world.

    Without realising it, you are all making arguments born out of psychological need, and have entered the cliche of the toxic relationship between cult leader and led, between “too competent” and “too pure”. It must be very frustrating for Ron, that most of you are not inclined to follow him into taking Covid more seriously, because you want a greater evil phantom and his theory serves only the purpose of a completely stupid one. This is the point on which your psychological needs are misaligned.

    I suppose you “Harold Smith” are making a bold attempt to bridge the gap, but “evil” and “utterly incompetent” is too much of a stretch. Too basic a character for the bad guys for even the silliest children’s cartoon.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @Dumbo
    , @Kali
  217. Wokechoke says:
    @Dumbo

    Neocons could just mean insider Jewish appointees or Shabbos lackeys. Anyone spoiling for a fight with the Chinese before this event could be audited.

  218. MLK says:
    @utu

    . . . or in other words you say nothing . . .

    Not true. Though I get why you say that. I do my best to avoid childish, discrediting tells like the following, refusing to feed bias confirmation:

    “. . . President Trump’s completely lackadaisical response . . . “

    Look, I know it’s frustrating but when it comes to grand conspiracies the devil really isn’t in the details. At least not in the manner the author of this article asserts.

    For example, he spends a lot of time on the import of the early outbreak in Iran. Let’s just say that right after Trump foiled Iran’s plot to seize American Embassy hostages in Bagdad (and elsewhere) in a replay of the crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection in 1980 Iran’s Covid travails, oddly enough broadcast worldwide, were just what the doctor ordered.

    As you saw with the fairy stories about Trump, to understand their function you cannot disconnect them from their timing and publicized exploitation thereof.

    As I’ve explained before, conspiracies are coalitions of the willing and unwilling. The Covid in all its uncertainty was and remains a perfect tool for concentrating minds and ensuring compliance. Globally, anyone’s death from Covid became and remains plausible. As could the poor or “lackadaisical” response thingie to the extent leaders didn’t accept the “strong” totalitarian measures this author so admires of CCP China.

    Consider what is right in front of your face. The foreign and domestic anti-Trump alignment that coalesced in 2016, failed repeatedly to destroy and remove him, yet consolidated and grew as Trump delivered peace and prosperity. That only makes sense when you notice the uninterrupted signaling from what’s playfully known as the Intelligence Community that they would use any means necessary, and accept any outcome including civil war, to keep him from taking the oath again.

    Don’t you find it odd that psychopathic filth Brennan was very publicly attacking the elected POTUS? Don’t make the mistake of thinking he and the others were there to signal to the hot polloi. If foreign powers were going to participate or at least acquiesce they needed constant reassurance they were backing “the strong horse” and would get paid off.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Skeptikal
  219. @Ron Unz

    I hope to get round to doing it properly but I have just had an interesting day in which the good news is that, with luck, my once only ten yearly kidney stones will never again require anything to be inserted inside me but will be blasted from outside using focused ultrasound in a half day procedure. (You’ll still want to pay an anaesthetist, though not one that will damage your vocal cords with intubation – that took six months to fix!). And I can’t help noting how my lifelong scepticism about experts got a boost from my distinguished urologist saying “it’s the right kidney isn’t it?” and, when I said no, it was the left one and he scribbled on his notes he mumbled something about “keeping an eye on the right”. Come to think of it I told him in 2004 that I thought a stone that had to be removed before I could fly to the US had already passed. It had, so what he did to me left a lot of discomfort. Just to make sure you are ready for the trials of late middle age I add my experience of about 12 years ago when, to my surprise a neuro surgeon friend actually recommended a back operation and nominated a former chiropractor who, he said, had the fastest hands in the business , for a minimally invasive microdiskectomy. I told him 5 times (last time as I was wheeled in for the op) that the right side problem was now a both sides problem but he only did the right and finally, weeks post op, said “well if this one works we can do the other” ….[it didn’t work well enough to bother]. Maybe I should draw some conclusions from the fact that my tennis club is full of high paid surgeons and consulting physicians (and psychiatrists) whose immediate attentions one would not call on if a club professional was on the spot to administer first aid.

    And I have been much distracted by other comments that irritated even my anaesthetised self on my way back to finding your reply about the Swan-Doherty interview.

    *** *** ***
    I don’t apologise for delivering that rambling lot of conceivably useful information from experience . And I don’t apologise either for noting some more factual information derived from experience and realistic imagination that I should probably share with Dr Norman Swan.**.

    1. One idea I would repeat is that greed, or greed and resentment, is just as likely as neo-con Madness as motive, and it could be a Chinese person’s greed. What is more, however the virus was spread it mightn’t have been the first try that worked.

    2. A gap in reliable information in my experience of relying on UR and links in Comments is the actual number of the alleged scores of US bioweapons or just viral research labs around the world and what they do or could do. However it strikes me as very unlikely BTW that China would experiment with bioweapons at WIV with such obvious sources of likely indiscreet gossip and not a suggestion that there was some sealed off secure section that only CCP members could enter.

    3. Just a final query in the hope that the answer is at the tip of your fingers. You refer to Nicholas Wade’s important article being in Medium. But I have just come across this from The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists that I hadn’t seen mentioned, let alone identified as from that source:

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    4. I would encourage checking the mathematics of the possible rates of spread from the early days of no herd immunity even locally (Cf. my hypothesis of a superspreader on Day 1 at the Iranian Parliament)

    **As you will have detected he emigrated from Scotland, and, as you will have guessed, is Jewish. As a matter of interest his son Jonathan who went to Sydney’s best private school is a journalist for Axios “covering both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue” per Wikipedia.

  220. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    I do not know about Baltimore’s motives but saying “I do not know” may not only be the most prudent for him but also it might be the only honest position.

    “I’d really prefer seeing some public discussion of the issue” – Absolutely. I would like Peter Forster’s database used to generate different phylogenetic trees using different algorithms and assumptions and more importantly carrying out stability studies. How does the tree change if some data points are removes and how it changes when more data points that became available since Forster paper publication are added.

    While Peter Forster is a geneticists his specialty is archaeogenetics where data are sparse and conclusion are grand sweeping because they are not likely to be challenged as there is a slim chance that additional data would be found soon or if at all. This is not the case with Covid-19 data. I think the criticisms of his paper were reasonable and sound while his responses were defensive and not constructive. So it is possible he is ignored by his colleagues. For example this 09 December 2020 paper

    Assessing Uncertainty in the Rooting of the SARS-CoV-2 Phylogeny
    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/38/4/1537/6028993?login=true

    does not to cite Forster while possibly is addressed to the adherents of Forster’s conclusion:

    These results suggest that phylogenetic evidence alone is unlikely to identify the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and we caution against strong inferences regarding the early spread of the virus based solely on such evidence.

    The rooting of the SARS-CoV-2 phylogeny has important implications for our understanding of Covid19 epidemiology. Rooting in the B clade is compatible with an origin in or near Wuhan, whereas a rooting in Clade A suggests alternative origins of the virus, perhaps outside East Asia. The phylogenetic evidence alone, which is the focus of our study, is not sufficient to resolve this issue. However, we note that the vast majority of epidemiological evidence points to an origin of the virus in or near Wuhan.

    For that reason we consider the rooting in Clade B, as estimated in molecular clock analyses, and implied in standard phylodynamic analyses (e.g., Lemey et al. 2020), to be the most plausible rooting.

    • Replies: @Iris
  221. Dystopian says:
    @Anonymous

    I agree that given the evidence we have the most likely explanation for the “pandemic” is US/CCP collaboration. But, correlation is not causation and using government data to make any argument is dubious at best. These are the same people who claim there is no voter fraud, that Jan 6th was an armed insurrection, global warming will cause sea levels to rise and flood Florida by 2010, and that blacks built this country. The CDC report that these figures came from clearly states that it is an estimate. If your premise that the pandemic was a joint US/CCP op is correct, and I agree that it is, it only stands to reason that they would lie to magnify the size of the problem.

  222. Blackjack says:
    @Tubib Thawr

    I’m no virologist and I’m not sure what “adjuvanted protein subunit vaccines” (perhaps the normal antiviral vaccines with which we have been familiar with for a long time?) but I did recently hear an interesting anecdote in this regard. I met a 49 year old man from Baton Rouge, LA, whose father is an ER doc and mother is a cardiologist. They, and the groups of MD’s who are their associates, vaccinated themselves with the common MMR vaccine booster and none of them have come down with Covid19. He said this was commonly being done by the Louisiana medical community, including at Tulane University Medical School. A brief search engine search revealed that studies are being initiated to see if this inoculation has merit to prevent Covid infections.

  223. @Kali

    Did FB tell you perhaps that people living on another planet didn’t qualify as sufficiently hominid?

    • Replies: @Kali
  224. @VICB3

    A lazy brain fart . You should indeed welcome this comment as promised. It might make you switch your brain on before tossing a turd into the sandpit.

  225. @Triteleia Laxa

    What does your incoherent comment have to do with anything I said?

  226. utu says:
    @MLK

    “when it comes to grand conspiracies the devil really isn’t in the details” – Or when you have no details all you have are grand conspiracy theories. Weaving them is easier and they can be grander as you are not constrained by details.

    As I indicated what you write is pleasant to read but it is anchored in the presupposition of Trump being grand to the grandest possible extent that justifies the grandest possible conspiracy against him.

    • Replies: @MLK
  227. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    The truth is much more banal and the culprits are the usual kind – the profiteers by any means:
    “A Manufactured Illusion: Dr. David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich: The Illusion of Demand”

    [MORE]

    It is time for the ghastly moral dwarf Fauci to commit suicide.

    • Replies: @cassandra
    , @annamaria
  228. @MarkU

    One hour and 22 minutes is out of the question. If it’s important some good citizen needs to transcribe it. Most people are going to presume they have already read or heard everything of importance in there.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  229. @Harold Smith

    The increase in wealth to billionaires at the expense of everyone else, from the start of lockdowns to now, has been called the “greatest transfer of wealth in history.” Even allowing for media hyperbole, it’s a shockingly obvious trend.

    I don’t know about “evil.” I’m sure there are broken people who get up in the morning fully intending to cause suffering, but I doubt the wealthy and powerful are united by any conscious dedication to malice. Like most of us, they either fully believe in their own rightness or simply seek advantage without thinking too deeply about the consequences to others.

    • Agree: Triteleia Laxa
  230. @Erebus

    now we’re getting somewhere!

  231. @pietro

    This is the same David Martin who stars and kicks ass in Plandemic 2, that documentary last year that everyone in USA was warned not view for fear of hair growing on the palms of their hands. It is where I heard about gain of function study going offshore and Fauci’s incestuous relationship with Big Dope and the Wuhan lab…

    [MORE]

    So very controversial but not compatible with Unz et al. Can only be one survivor. Debate, debate!

    p.s. This wording in particular bothers me:

    across the last three generations there seems no single event that has impacted the world as much as the ongoing global Covid epidemic.

    Face it: The overreaction to Covid19/Sars2, or whatever, is what caused — or excused — this economic implosion and power grabs around the world, NOT the level of excess death or actual destruction to infrastructure. This is very important to understand.

    Note: I have read every installment in this series by RU. The essay above is better than most, but it depends a great deal on a very sparse and short chronology. Why keep grinding the axe so narrowly while refusing to encompass other key aspects like the negative effects of the response and who is profiting from all that?

    We all learn in driver’s training that when a deer jumps in front of your car you must resist the temptation to yank too hard on the steering wheel. Better to stay on the road. Risk a little damage to your front end rather than end up crumpled at the bottom of a canyon. Lesson: don’t overreact!

    In any case, since the social and economic effects are easily on par with the fall of the Soviet Union back in the 1990s, maybe we should look to see if there are any connections to the oligarchs who looted Russia after that event? Are they gaming this one too? Or at least target the current set of profiteers and power brokers as primary suspects behind this mess. Answer why did Bill Gates says the entire planet needs to get rush vaccinated? And why dismiss RFK jr.’s work on vaccine dangers and need for safety but instead tar him as anti-vaxx hype? That is unfair, lazy, or worse.

    Perhaps this series by Unz has been an elaborate foil to draw attention away from Big Dope Inc.?

    • Agree: John Fisher
    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  232. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @lysias

    Fauci has tried many times to get out of the racket. But every time he does, they pull him back in.

  233. Another Unz Review writer stated that one should read long-form pieces like this before commenting.

    I have not read this essay and am commenting in protest of this view.

    That said, I did read Lord Unz attacking Godfree Roberts as an, “incompetent pro-China propagandist” and chuckled.

  234. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @M. Le Docteur Ralph

    If the coronavirus pandemic was an example of biological warfare, then not expecting blowback from the attack would be rank stupidity.

    Ron Unz addressed that in his very first article putting forth the biowarfare hypothesis. I may misremember but in my own words:  1. They are stupid.  2. Psychopaths don’t think of other people, or rather, they think of them as merely physical objects which may or may not affect them. Mass death and mayhem to get what they want was for them a calculated risk.  3. They could have believed that the West’s medicine was so superior to the East’s that any pandemic here could quickly be squelched. Finally, and I don’t recall this in RU’s article, the pandemic in the West has been used, like 9-11, to vastly increase government power, as in the famous statement Hermann Göring made to Gustave Gilbert. Whether the Deep State intended it or not they came out ahead in the U.S.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  235. MLK says:
    @utu

    You make my point about the devil not being in the details better than I could:

    . . . Trump being grand to the grandest possible extent that justifies the grandest possible conspiracy against him. (emphasis mine)

    How is it possible you’re still unsure that the anti-Trump alignment felt justified in their pursuit of “Trump Must Go!”

    The irony is that justification is the easy part. “Let me count the ways . . . .” It’s meaningless absent a willingness to bear the risk of conspiring/acting in furtherance of the objective.

  236. Herald says:
    @Ron Unz

    But here’s a listing of TOTAL American deaths from all causes over the last few years, taken directly from the CDC website:

    2014: 2,626,418
    2015: 2,712,630
    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,813,503
    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,854,838
    2020: 3,384,426

    You’ll notice that the numbers are fairly steady until 2020 when they suddenly jumped by well over 500,000.

    How many of those excess deaths relate to refused medical treatment, poor medical treatment, criminal medical treatment and perhaps most importantly downright lies, which is a CDC speciality? I don’t know the answer to any of the above, but neither does anyone else, outside the CDC. Using the CDC’s figures without qualification is heading down the road to nowhere.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  237. cassandra says:
    @annamaria

    Youtube took down your video
    “A Manufactured Illusion: Dr. David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich: The Illusion of Demand”.

    Thank you, youtube, for drawing my attention with your censorship. Here it is on bitchute:
    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/JyZqaOm5cBFO/

    • Thanks: annamaria
  238. From RU’s article:

    The all-out effort to develop and distribute effective vaccines, including new and briefly-tested ones, has merged the Covid controversy with the longstanding anti-vaxx movement …

    … a great deal of the agitated commentary on this subject appears outlandish and implausible. Many activists seem to assume a unified worldwide conspiracy … to pretend that Covid is dangerous and that the vaccines against it are not, even though the truth is exactly the reverse. …

    Opposition to the experimental vaccines for Covid should not be confused with the longstanding anti-vaxx movement, even if some in the latter have joined the former.

    There are many intelligent, knowledgeable, and accomplished people speaking out against the experimental Covid vaccines. Among them are Robert Malone, inventor of the delivery technology used in those vaccines, and Steve Kirsch, inventor of the optical mouse. Here is a video discussion featuring these men, boiled down to 43 minutes from the over-an-hour-long original — hosted by Brett Weinstein on his Dark Horse podcast:

    The Regulatory Mess and the Suppression of Adverse Events

  239. Ron Unz says:
    @Morton's toes

    One hour and 22 minutes is out of the question. If it’s important some good citizen needs to transcribe it. Most people are going to presume they have already read or heard everything of importance in there.

    Frankly, I’m not sure I’ve never gotten anything useful out of a video, so I almost never watch them.

    Relative to information in written period, they’re very low-density and wasteful of time, can’t be as easily reviewed or considered, can’t contain source-links, and are often filled with all sorts of distracting psychological propaganda, much like TV. Perhaps, there are probably a few exceptions, such as material that’s overwhelmingly visual in nature.

    But if someone doesn’t want to take the time to produce at least a short written article outlining what he’s trying to prove, there’s probably nothing there.

  240. Dumbo says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I am not sure what you’re trying to say, but it is perfectly possible (and we’ve seen a lot of examples of that) to be both very evil and very incompetent or even stupid. They are not opposites.

    Now, I personally don’t think that the elite are “stupid”; they are incompetent, sure, but the incompetence is by design; the destruction and the dysfunction of the modern world are by design. It is much easier to destroy than to create.

    But notice that the supposed “incompetence” rarely affects their own pockets or livelihoods; no, it is only others who suffer, and they, even in the middle of a supposed pandemic, increased their fortunes in a few billions more.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  241. @thotmonger

    Agree wholeheartedly.

    Will this comment get suspended because it goes against the authoritative grain?

    Such FAILURE of humans that fear nature, their body sovereignty and their individual immunity, and exchange it for Health Prostitution.

    • Agree: John Fisher
  242. @Wokechoke

    Or the first wave of mass euthanasia in shut-up nursing homes. Because if they can do everything else they’ve gotten away with, they can do that.

    • Agree: Kali
  243. @Ron Unz

    Yes, thank you for expressing exactly what I think about this.

    Podcasts are good though, you can listen to them while going for a walk or driving somewhere.

    I see that you have produced some for your written works, which is welcome, but I find that the written style does not work so well for podcasts. It is too dense, and people listen more distractedly. This is why a conversational style works much better.

    Conversations can be recorded online and require little preparation. I hope you might take advantage of this.

    I, personally, would enjoy you recording a series of conversations, which you might have, with your own writers.

    • Replies: @lysias
  244. @Red Pill Angel

    But then why would governments go along with it and protect the guilty parties? This narrows down the list of suspects. Ask yourself: who has been able to pull off massive global hoaxes on the scale of Covid-19 in the last 100 years and keep governments and media from exposing them? WW1, WW2, the Holohoax, JFK, 911…. only Jews are capable of pulling off an operation this large, and keeping foreign governments and the media quiet about it.

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
  245. @Herald

    Switch your few neurons on dear boy. Plenty of people connected to compiling the figures know what you assert no one knows to the usual levels of approximation with some little error that apply to all figures. (That is unless you are asserting that the 500,000 is just about all lies by the CDC, which you fail to give any explanation for). More important, what possible reason is there for believing the factors you mention could net out to that 500,000 in one year? No, on second thoughts you haven’t enough neurons to make them worth deploying.

    • Troll: Kali
  246. @sb

    I know medical doctors who listen to the Health Report and I wonder if you are implying that only those with Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics degrees are habituated to applying the right level of intellectual rigour to the medicine related discussions on Dr Swan’s program? Really?

  247. Ron Unz says:
    @Mark Hunter

    If the coronavirus pandemic was an example of biological warfare, then not expecting blowback from the attack would be rank stupidity.

    Ron Unz addressed that in his very first article putting forth the biowarfare hypothesis.

    Yes, and one point I made is that is that Covid had inflicted a gigantic disaster upon American society, and according to most estimates killed somewhere between 600,000 and a million Americans.

    Obviously, some more “conspiratorially-minded” individuals believe that disaster was deliberate. Okay, but if we leave that possibility aside, our ruling elites otherwise seem totally incompetent. For example, all the East Asian countries avoided problems of similar magnitude.

    A few other points to consider regarding the insouciance of the Deep State Neocons, who probably were behind the biowarfare attack:

    (1) International organizations had ranked America #1 in ability to cope with an epidemic, while China had been considered very vulnerable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/america-first-in-epidemic-preparedness/

    (2) And as I just pointed out in this article, Robert Kadlec, one of America’s top biowarfare experts, had been brought in by Trump in 2017. His focus was the covert use of bioweapons to inflict serious economic damage upon adversaries, and by 2018 and 2019 China had begun to suffer mysterious and severe viral epidemics targeting its poultry and meat supply.

    Next, Kadlec spent most of 2019 organizing governmental practice-simulations on the hypothetical outbreak of a dangerous viral respiratory disease in China and how America could prevent it from spilling over into our own society. Then, a couple of months after the simulations were concluded, the Covid epidemic began in Wuhan:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#the-plausible-deniability-of-bioweapons-and-their-effectiven

    I’d assume that the results of the 2019 epidemic-simulations were much more successful than what actually transpired a few months later. Plans always work better on paper.

    Frankly, when you simply put together all the pieces I’ve provided in my (admittedly) very long article, I think you’re left with this sort of “mystery”:

    Suppose the Colombos and the Bonnanos are involved in a bloody gang-war in NYC, and a couple of the Colombo capos tell their friends they’re about to meet with the Bonnanos to try to resolve things. The next day, they’re both found shot to death. Now who in the world could have been responsible?…

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  248. GayDad69 says:

    IIRC Fauci restarted Gain of Function research in Wuhan in 2017, and didn’t stop even though Trump ordered him to do so.

    I think that it was initially cooked up with China as a full partner (why on earth would you do bioweapon research with an economic and military rival?), but as time went on and China demonstrated that they aren’t on board with global jewish hegemony and globohomo the US government improvised to blame them for it.

    Perhaps they had the Chinese “partner” with them knowing full well that the Chinese were too incompetent to properly contain it?

    Either way neither party are the good guys.

  249. @Ron Unz

    Obviously, some more “conspiratorially-minded” individuals believe that disaster was deliberate. Okay, but if we leave that possibility aside, our ruling elites otherwise seem totally incompetent. For example, all the East Asian countries avoided problems of similar magnitude.

    “Totally incompetent” is an inapt phrase for a “performance” which is somewhat better than almost everywhere, but the East Asian countries.

    I’m curious. Do you think it is “competence” that saw Cambodia outperform Germany from Covid-19? And all of Europe?

  250. aandrews says:

    https://i.imgur.com/XtNHs3J.png

    [MORE]

    Supermarkets.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  251. @Dumbo

    Read your own post. Notice how you can’t swallow Ron’s allegations of “total incompetence”, without turning it into “extremely evil competence”, or, as you say “destruction by design.”

    Don’t you find that interesting?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  252. @Ron Unz

    Reading and writing are the greatest things ever invented and the crew that did that was one inspired bunch. Audio and video can provide good entertainment though.

    Yesterday I saw a youtube on Lenny Dykstra the baseball player and felon and it was most fun. Dykstra reported he never read a book because he didn’t want to drain his visual system as he needed it all in the batter’s box. Then later I listened to Art Bell and Michael Heiser and it’s a great show that I am going to finish when I have time. As learning resources they are not good.

    I used to dread attending college lectures and corporate training courses. If you are a skilled networker they are essential. If you are not they are almost all a waste of time.

  253. @Ultrafart the Brave

    I hope for Fuellmich’ sake that he has proper personal security.

    Exactly what I thought when watching that video with Dr Martin. RF is hovering very closely over-the-target and some globally powerful people don’t want that.

    another high profile (lady) anti Corona Chan activist doctor whose name I can’t recall just now.

    Dr. Simone Gold also has a JD, yes. She’s part of America’s Frontline Doctors – https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/?s=simone+gold
    She is whip-smart and very brave.

    The way things are going, the more legal know-how the medics have, and the more medical knowledge the lawyers have, the better.

    AGREED and include some strong spine!

  254. annamaria says:
    @GayDad69

    You need to look for a simpler explanation. Money. A lot of money was envisioned by the dealers already in 2004. The Dealers were Americans (internationals). Where else can you find this level of cynicism?


    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
  255. @aandrews

    So how are the unvaccinated supposed to live? Will they at least be allowed to go to jail for free food and board if they commit a serious crime to try to get out of this predicament?

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  256. @pietro

    GooTube nuked not only the vid but the non-ironic, hard-core leftist account behind it

  257. @utu

    I had already signalled my disagreement with you by agreeing with Karlin’s comment, and I still think you are wrong, though certainty is totally out of question in these matters. That Deigin may have had collaboration on his initial paper, and the co-authors preferred to stay anonymous at that point in time (and understandably could not retract from that position except in later collaborations), is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis which does not detract from Deigin’s credibility (or anyone’s for that matter). Unless every single word coming from him (including his tweets) is ghost-written, Deigin is an undeniably brilliant fellow, and I would have a very hard time imagining him to be simply a “front man”.

    I am not a specialist on virology or any science field for that matter, but I seriously think that you are wrong by equating Quay and Deigin’s probability estimation regarding the furin cleavage with Intelligent Design theory. Whereas Intelligent Design proponents simply reject that, given infinite time and space, intelligence would appear through evolution, the appearance of a specific feature in a virus is an occurrence in a limited time and space, in an already existing environment. So, my understanding is that some probabilities are necessarily greater than others.

    Here’s a curious event which could allay your suspicions (or on the contrary intensify them):

    On Harvard2TheBigHouse (Dan Sirotkin’s) Expulsion from DRASTIC & Related
    https://yurideigin.medium.com/on-harvard2thebighouse-expulsion-from-drastic-8992ae463add

    • Replies: @utu
  258. @Jamesc

    The US researchers wanted to study coronaviruses of Chinese bats. It would have been hard to do so without collaborating with the Chinese: only they could provide the specimens.

    A bonus was that the US researchers could get close to Chinese scientists and their labs.

  259. Robbyj73 says:

    The lab theory serves 2 purposes. One is to divide the country into separate opinions on its origin. Second, and more importantly, is to keep the narrative alive that it is actually real and to keep moving vaccines. The fact that the intelligence agencies put out the lab idea is hopefully a reaction to people waking up and realizing this is a scam. The fact that it isn’t real should make us all very concerned with what’s in that shot. Seems to be graphene oxide, which is very toxic.

    • Replies: @John Fisher
    , @cassandra
  260. Mehen says:
    @Caspar von Everec

    I believe the curious anomalies, contradictions and inconsistencies you note can be explained by reference to one fact: any geopolitical analysis of nation-states or governments which sees them as largely monolithic entities is woefully lacking in nuance.

    Perhaps both sides of the inconsistencies you note can be resolved by considering this possibility: there exists the older elite faction — let’s call them the AngloZionist Imperialists —who do care in some sense for America, if only to parasitize upon it to maintain hegemony on the globe, and the International Globalist Communist faction who would prefer to see America dissolved as a nation into the One World Government/New World Order. It seems these two factions — while having considerable overlap — are still fighting over certain methods and goals.

    Perhaps Mr. Unz is accusing the AngloZionists with such insistence so as to draw attention away from the International Globalist faction? That possibility would certainly go some way toward explaining his peculiar blind spot regarding the larger, global issues in play, which many other commenters have implored him to consider.

    Just a thought.

  261. @Commentator Mike

    The unvaccinated in Europe will have to get vaccinated. Continental European traditions see “freedom” differently than the US does. I assume it will be de jure, not only de facto, mandatory in China for the same reason.

    Freedom requires sacrifices that many people are not willing to pay. It also gives wonderful benefits, but most people are not subtle-minded enough to see through the sacrifices to the benefits.

    Any country that does not find a way to enforce vaccination will have more Covid-19 deaths than those that do.

    This is a big, blatant fact that is silly to deny. It takes calmness and long-sightedness to see through it to the benefits of avoiding allowing your government that power and of trusting in your populace to make their own decisions.

    Sadly, that type of wisdom is rare, or, maybe, when that wisdom is too rare, its very rareness stops it from being true and wise.

    Are people smart and complete and measured enough for that kind of freedom anymore?

    The only way I have of guessing is in looking whether they ensure they fight for and keep it, or not.

  262. MarkU says:
    @Ron Unz

    Frankly, I’m not sure I’ve never gotten anything useful out of a video, so I almost never watch them.

    Relative to information in written form, they’re very low-density and wasteful of time, can’t be as easily reviewed or considered, can’t contain source-links, and are often filled with all sorts of distracting psychological propaganda

    I agree entirely, I have said much the same myself, podcasts are especially dire. I did watch the David Martin interview however (skipping the German translation) Assuming for arguments sake that the information is legitimate, I would rate it as potentially game changing.

    But if someone doesn’t want to take the time to produce at least a short written article outlining what he’s trying to prove, there’s probably nothing there.

    Fortunately somebody has already done that. It will take you 5 minutes max to skim the article to see what it is about.

    https://mydundasvalley.com/2021/07/12/a-manufactured-illusion-covid-19-patents/

    • Thanks: Morton's toes, Kali
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @zoomy
  263. lysias says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I would never listen to a podcast while driving. It would take too much of my attention away from the road.

  264. Dnought says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I don’t think the post you are replying to qualifies as “obscurantism”. Overdose deaths were up by 29% in 2020 compared to the previous year, in the United States.

    No doubt the virus is responsible for a good portion of the excess deaths in the US (and other locales) but I have seen reputable researchers who estimate that non-COVID deaths are responsible for 25% to 30% or more of the excess death total(s).

  265. @Rabbitnexus

    In the same way back in Port Arthur I recalled reading in the local newspaper both the serial number guns Bryant supposedly used were listed as destroyed after surrender during a previous gun amnesty.

    If you remember which paper and the approximate time you read it, it would be worth tracking this information down in a library.

    • Replies: @Rabbitnexus
  266. @Ron Unz

    So unimportant Youtube censored it. HA. You made a mistake here, or are avoiding an issue.

    Meanwhile one should realize that “video” interviews are primarily audio, not video, and at the speed of normal crafted thought, perhaps delivered by the source thinker. As when an author reads passages from their book or distills down the thrust of their message… If you do not like the look of the person you can close your eyes. Close your eyes and listen to a human voice on occasion, rather than rating all based on the assembly of letters.

  267. @Ron Unz

    If the people in the vdieo are “high quality” it might be worth watching.  In post #243 I linked to a video featuring Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch who I think meet that standard.  However, besides the video they have indeed published articles outlining their position:

    Should you get vaccinated?
    by Steve Kirsch, inventor of the optical mouse and executive director of COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund which he founded.

    Vaccine safety evidence
    by Seve Kirsch and Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA technology.

    • Thanks: Morton's toes
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  268. @Ron Unz

    Well I finished up my medically consumed day by listening to it and I think you should consider it more like the interviews you feature on UR or maybe podcasts from radio programs where you could easily have a Dt Norman Swan and two medical professors. Cp. Swan & Doherty (maybe a Nobel Prize winner counts as two).

    I have had the two Astra Zeneca vaccine jabs without a problem but was thinking of topping up with Pfizer later in the year. Now I’m not sure that I shouldn’t at least wait longer and encourage young family members that if, as good citizens or would be travellers, they think they should be vaccinated they accept the very small risk of blood clots with the Astra Zeneca vaccine. I am inclined to think also that the discouragement to using Ivermectin in modest dosesclose to the actual or possible time of infection has much to be said for it after many years of use without anything much in the way of side effects.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @John Fisher
  269. @Wizard of Oz

    I see that I didn’t send that reply until I had checked on “Ivermectin side effects” and when I got back to that search found that there were side effects cautioned about….

  270. Ron Unz says:
    @MarkU

    Fortunately somebody has already done that. It will take you 5 minutes max to skim the article to see what it is about.

    https://mydundasvalley.com/2021/07/12/a-manufactured-illusion-covid-19-patents/

    Well, I glanced through that outline and wasn’t at all impressed. I don’t know anything about patents, but it struck me as typical anti-vaxx crackpottery, e.g.

    Are the “vaccines” a bio-weapon tool for population control? [44:50]…

    – “There has been no effort by any pharmaceutical company to combat the virus. This is about getting people injected with the known-to-be-harmful S-1 spike protein.” Dr. David E. Martin [46:58]

    “The tragedy is we are now sitting in a world where we have hundreds of millions of people who are being injected with a pathogen stimulating computer sequence, which is being sold under what the patent office, what the medical profession and what the FDA in its own clinical standards would not suggest is a vaccine, but by using the term [vaccine] we actually are now subjecting hundreds of millions of people to what was known to be by 2005 a biological weapon.” Dr. David Martin [50:10]

    I’ve never heard of any of those people, I suspect they’re just a bunch of nuts.

    Russia, America, China, Israel, Iran, and every other country are using various vaccines to combat Covid, and none of their leaders have said anything about this diabolical plot, so are they all in it together? That’s exactly the sort of “rubbish” that Putin was ridiculing in that passage of his talk that I quoted.

  271. Ron Unz says:
    @Mark Hunter

    If the people in the vdieo are “high quality” it might be worth watching. In post #243 I linked to a video featuring Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch who I think meet that standard.

    Well, I’ve never heard of Malone, but I had a few very slight dealings with Steve Kirsch about twenty ago, and although he’d been quite successful in his tech business, he struck me as an extreme egomaniac and something of a nut. Frankly, I’d regard him as having negative-credibility, so if he supports something, it’s a little more likely to be nonsense.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  272. Notsofast says:
    @GayDad69

    fauci didn’t restart gain of function research in wuhan in 2017, he restarted it in ft. detrick in 2017. fauci moved gain of function research to wuhan in 2014 when it had been outlawed in the u.s. and brought it home in the back door when the h.h.s. was between directors in dec 2017. in aug 2019 the bioweapons lab was shut down by the c.d.c. for “safety violations”. all roads lead to fauci.

  273. Dumbo says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    No.

    As I said, it’s easier to destroy than to create, so you don’t need a lot of “extremely evil competence” to destroy stuff or create chaos.

    Also, it’s easier to believe that rich and powerful people are evil than they are stupid, they didn’t make money or get power by being stupid or incompetent, did they? But by being evil? Maybe…

    But, as I said, people can be both evil and incompetent. Being both good and competent is much, much harder, perhaps impossible for mortals.

    What do you believe?

    Good night.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  274. Dumbo says:
    @Ron Unz

    anti-vaxx crackpottery

    So which vaccine did you take, Mr. Unz?

    Perhaps we should make a poll, and see which vaccine every columnist and commenter at UR took, and place our bets on the side effects down the line. So far, I only know that Anatoly Karlin took the Sputnik, and it didn’t make him much more deranged than he already was… LOL.

    Me, I’m still undecided. Astra Zeneca gives you blood clots, J&J Guillain-Barré syndrome, Pfizer and Moderna myocarditis…. Hmmm…

    Of those who were fully vaccinated who caught the Delta variant, 50 died, data from Public Health England that was published on Friday indicated.

    The figure represents almost half of the total 117 deaths associated with the variant in the UK, where Delta now represents most cases.

    But experts said this does not undermine what we know about the efficacy of the vaccines

    LOL. What would we do without experts?

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  275. Iris says:
    @utu

    does not to cite Forster while possibly is addressed to the adherents of Forster’s conclusion:

    No. The article does not cite Pr Forster so it can pretend to ignore that Pr Forster has already produced rebuttals about the points raised, including the politically-sensitive issue of the genetic “outgroup”, the starting point used to kick off the algorithm that built the phylogenetic network and uncovers its possible ancestor strain.

    In their view, such a distant outgroup is unlikely to provide a reliable root for the network. We argue, on the contrary, that the bat virus is surprisingly conclusive, as shown by its stable rooting in cluster A despite incrementally increasing the epsilon “fuzziness” setting in the median-joining network algorithm as described in PNAS (1). Where Mavian et al. (8) have gone wrong is to look no further than the 3.8% difference between bat and human coronavirus differences. However, if they had considered that the bat virus genome is 30,000 nucleotides long, and then had looked at the 1,200 nucleotide differences between bat and human virus, they would have seen that only 19 nucleotides are shared polymorphisms between the bat coronavirus and the consensus of the 160 human coronavirus genomes, encompassing maximum parsimony trees of 212 mutations. On this basis, the bat coronavirus is an excellent outgroup for rooting the network. Furthermore, since publication we have confirmed the bat coronavirus rooting with two strains of the more distant pangolin coronavirus.

    https://www.pnas.org/content/117/23/12524?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Proc_Natl_Acad_Sci_U_S_A_TrendMD_0#sec-2

    So Forster is sticking by his guns and affirming the genetic chronology of SARS-CoV2 he came up with. He also provides two argument which are clear enough for the maths-savvy but genetics-ignorant like you and me: increasing the genetic distance tolerance on intermediate missing sequences, or kicking off the iterations with other, different outgroups (either of the two pangolin viruses), he stills came up with a similar network, presenting the similar strains A, B and C in chronological order. So much for the enlightened critics.

    The three strains Forster came up with in April 2020 were very visible in the early snapshots directly taken from the very mainstream GISAID database, such as this one from April 2020, although GISAID chose a linear phylogenetic presentation to avoid controversy.

    Forster’s classification hasn’t been withdrawn. It can be accessed on the embedded Excel file (Click on “Download classification of 1001 SARS-C0V2 genomes“). There are over a 1000 samples listed. Out of those, 326 genomes are of the ancestor A type, but only 72 came from Asia, and only a miniscule subset of 4 were sampled in Wuhan.
    https://www.fluxus-engineering.com/cov2020.htm

    Out of all candidates considered to be the cradle of SARS-CoV 2, Wuhan fares as the most unlikely, including when compared to other Chinese cities such as Shanghai.

  276. @Dumbo

    I believe that both the commenters’ line of “the other” being “evil” is implausible and that Ron’s line that the same “others” are “totally incompetent” is equally implausible.

    As you say, you don’t get that high by being completely stupid, and these are huge institutions, with hundreds of thousands of workers, so luck doesn’t suffice as an explanation either.

    At the same time, evil, a matter of sincerely doing great bad because you like sincerely doing great bad is as rare as anything. It normally takes very extreme times for such people to reach power, as those close to them can sense it and will not promote such individuals easily.

    Instead, you’re both projecting, and, as proof, that you’re both doing that, I have demonstrated the fundamental and unbridgeable mismatch between Ron and his commenters’ psychological needs. It is there for anyone astute to see.

    The pattern has even become so frustrating for Ron that he has had to bring out the ban hammer, when this is his most hated instrument. I don’t blame him, but I thought he might appreciate insight into the cause of his problems. I don’t expect most commenters will be subtle enough thinkers to follow, but I am sure that Ron is a capable, if he chooses.

  277. @Dumbo

    Me, I’m still undecided. Astra Zeneca gives you blood clots, J&J Guillain-Barré syndrome, Pfizer and Moderna myocarditis…. Hmmm…

    Covid also gives you those, but with higher frequency. Perhaps this is unsurprising, since the vaccines are all partial simulations of the disease.

    If you’ve had it, there’s little point in getting vaccinated, at least for a year or two after. If you haven’t, then it is highly likely that you’ll get Covid over the next year as vaccinated people go back to normal, and transmission ramps us.

    The disease is worse than the vaccine.

    • Replies: @John Fisher
    , @Dumbo
  278. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Okay. It was China’s response to American treachery on Taiwan. Let’s remember the Long March, PLA fleeing for months, finally winning, and their pursuers going offshore, taking over Taiwan.

    All American mischief. That’s what’s behind the South-Of-China Sea troubles. And a mountain of others.

    Let the US support China’s takeover of it’s own island. End of a mountain of troubles. Don’t blame China.

  279. Mehen says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I believe Gary Webb covered this story extensively. I believe the cyclist’s name was something like “Banaressi”(sp)

    • Replies: @Anon62
  280. @Triteleia Laxa

    The disease is worse than the vaccine.

    Just stop. This site is clearly divided into three camps:

    1. Clear thinkers who easily spot paid narrative engineers and dupes.
    2. Paid narrative engineers.
    3. Dupes (call them normies if you wish).

    Notice there is no category for those undecided who can be moved by your bullshit.

    You are either in category 3, in which case I would say to PYHOOFA as soon as possible, or you are in category 2, in which case I would say GFY.

    No offense, of course.

  281. Ron Unz,
    If you aren’t familiar with Dr. Dave Martin’s research on Covid19 you may want to watch this interview. I think he nails it. In this interview he delivers his evidence concisely. Now it’s up to a prosecutor to panel a grand jury and bring forth the indictments. Here’s the link.

    [MORE]

    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/4ihoQNwnerEs/

  282. @Wizard of Oz

    My first attempt at responding to you in this thread was purged. It was three words:

    Get over yourself

    Now I add the following words for the censors: “You cannot be a real person. You have to either be a caricature or a bot.”

    But you are starting to become interesting in an artistic sort of way.

    So carry on!

  283. @annamaria

    Anamaria, rather than read this article I went straight to comments and posted a plea to Ron Unz to watch my link to Dr. Dave Martin’s presentation. I applaud you for doing the same. Can there be remaining, in the USA, one brave prosecutor? Let’s hope so, As the crimes committed effected everyone, it could be a federal, state or county prosecutor.
    Sadly it appears that in 2002 Dr. Martin nailed the cause of the Anthrax false flag, and at that time his investigation went nowhere. Pray the same doesn’t happen here.
    I think there are people in Germany, and other countries, actively seeking prosecution.

    • Replies: @Herald
  284. @Robbyj73

    The lab theory serves 2 purposes. One is to divide the country into separate opinions on its origin. Second, and more importantly, is to keep the narrative alive that it is actually real and to keep moving vaccines.

    Spot on Robbyj73.

    And Ron Unz is beginning to look like he’s either 1.) a member of the “team” or 2.) a useful idiot.

    If it’s the first, he has been building up his credibility precisely for this grand moment.

    If it’s the second (my hope), he might be forgiven.

    The debate over origin is based on a false premise, and is either a deflection (by team members) or a waste of time (by useful idiots) until true premises are established.

    This comment thread appears to have been well engineered.

  285. @GayDad69

    Watch and LISTEN to the Dave Martin interview before commenting again. It’s worth the hour.

  286. anon[175] • Disclaimer says:

    Anti-vax is a cunning bit of neurolinguistic programming, and we see our host using the catchphrase in a careless way. The problematique is not vaccines but US industry corruption and regulatory capture. Blanket liability protection obviates duty of care. Malversation in procurement combines with ulterior constraint and coercion to institutionalize lethal drugs – we saw that with opioids, and now we see it with m-rna gene therapy.

    Existing vaccines for SARS-COV-2 are products of the most atrocious false claims in history. Suppression of alternative treatments permitted a fraudulent EUA as a pretext for coercive human experimentation of unprecedented scale. You can make a case that SARS-COV-2 vaccines are eugenic toxins, but what is indisputable that they are dangerous because they’re good enough for government work when the government is rotten to the core.

    • Thanks: John Fisher, annamaria
    • Replies: @annamaria
  287. @John Fisher

    I will reach out to you and apologise if the vaccine turns out as you predict. I hope you will do the same to me if it doesn’t?

  288. @Triteleia Laxa

    There was NO VIRUS to begin with.
    Similar attempts were made with HIV, SARS-1, Swine Flu and others.
    … to NO avail!

    [MORE]

    At the same time, evil, a matter of sincerely doing great bad because you like sincerely doing great bad is as rare as anything. It normally takes very extreme times for such people to reach power, as those close to them can sense it and will not promote such individuals easily.

    Evil is our over-compensated authorities IMPLORING EVERYONE to fear nature and each other! The best way to do it in our modern times is to wank the economy so bad that most people will default to protecting their property, or finances, rather than facing up to the perpetual theft and malfesance by the authorities. The added evil is trying to dichotomize the citizenry, creating fear, hate, scapegoating, virtue signalling etc.

    ALL the violence has been created by the authorities through non-democratic means:
    lack of legislative or parliamentary or representative ascent. Don’t think so?

  289. Skeptikal says:
    @monopduly

    Very interesting hypothesis.

    I can’t follow all the details, but I wonder how you think the ongoing rising tide of censorship of all discussion of covid-19 and especially the treatment options, the vaccine medical fascism, and the distortion of data by means of the mainstream media and the Big Social Media corporations fits in with your scenario.

    • Replies: @monopduly
  290. Skeptikal says:
    @Alfred

    Absolutely. RICO case. If it is possible to bring a RICO case internationally.
    The covid op is obviously a pan-national op.

    The Pandemic Gang of Six: Fauci, WHO, Wellcome, Gates, CDC, Big Pharma

    [MORE]

    See Dr. David Martin,
    https://odysee.com/@Corona-Ausschuss:3/Sitzung-60-Die-Zeit-ist-kein-flacher-Kreis-5-Martin:f
    (in English; you can skip the German translation bits)

    and

    https://www.davidmartin.world/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The_Fauci_COVID-19_Dossier.pdf

    Sure looks like plenty of smoking guns here.

    • Agree: John Fisher
  291. Pontius says:

    Sadly, having being raised in an evangelical household, I can guarantee many millions of people will regard the outbreak in Qom as evidence that God is in control, and smiting the enemies of Israel.

  292. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Paul Revere

    I haven’t yet watched the video of David Martin (not to be confused with DC Dave) but if he says that Covid-19 is nothing new, well, it’s hard to believe.

    The systemic thrombosis doctors are seeing is a unique feature of the disease.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Mark Hunter
  293. Skeptikal says:
    @RudyM

    I think it is by now quite obvious that the real bioweapon is the “gene therapy vaccine,” not the

    “novel coronavirus,” which is not novel at all.

    [MORE]

    A thorough engagement with the information in the very clear videos that have been presented by

    1. Dr. Robert Malone (interview with Sonia Elijah of Conservative Woman),

    2. Dr. Peter McCullough

    3. Dr. David Martin (and his pdf)

    suffices to provide a solid informational framework to start to divine the purposes of and identify and nail the perpetrators of this international op. Of course many side agendas have also played out, muddying the field somewhat. But once you grasp that the imposition of a “universal vaccines” is the end point of the op—the shots are not a “cure for covid19—-the fog starts to clear. That is, the “vaccine” is the reason for the pandemic; the pandemic/covid19 is not the “reason” for the gene therapy vaccines. It is a pretext for them. A cover story.

  294. @Triteleia Laxa

    At the same time, evil, a matter of sincerely doing great bad because you like sincerely doing great bad is as rare as anything. It normally takes very extreme times for such people to reach power, as those close to them can sense it and will not promote such individuals easily.

    Hannah Arendt Eichman in Jeruselem the Banality of Evil.

    Have you ever seen technocrats at work up close and personal? Very few ever have the time and energy left to plot evil schemes with their schedule consumed by the tasks of kissing the ass of their bosses and covering their own. When I was hired out of college some paternal guy gave me a xerox’d paragraph to explain all. It was the analogy of the sea squirt. I don’t know how biologically accurate it is but they were purported to have a caterpillar-> butterfly style metamorphosis. They swim around with a functioning brain and spinal-type central nerve and then when they mature they park like a coral. The punchline was that no longer needing their brain they then consume it.

    • Thanks: Triteleia Laxa
  295. I will reach out to you and apologise if the vaccine turns out as you predict. I hope you will do the same to me if it doesn’t?

    I’m not biting. So just go away with your faux good intentions and passive-aggression.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  296. @John Fisher

    How about a money bet? We can find an escrow service and put in some reasonable terms. Name a stake as high as you want and suggest some terms.

    This is open to anyone in this thread.

  297. utu says:
    @Brás Cubas

    Thanks for your comment. I am just groping in the dark. Probably I am wrong about the role of Karl Sirotkin. Perhaps Rossana Segreto did not know Yuri Deigin prior to him publishing his work in April 2020 (Deigin claims he has published earlier on a Russian site but I haven’t been able to verify it).

    Dan Sirotkin is clearly a toxic psychopathological personality. But him stating that he once worked for the NSA got my attention. And I also wondered why Deigin would get involved with Sirotkins in the first place knowing about Dan’s past unless Karl Sirotkin was somehow essential. Now they parted their ways and there are recrimination mostly coming from the crazy Dan Sirotkin.

    Thanks for the link because I was not aware of this happening

    https://yurideigin.medium.com/on-harvard2thebighouse-expulsion-from-drastic-8992ae463add

    as well as I did not not know of Dan Sirotkin new site

    https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/the-ex-con-who-kicked-the-idiots/comments

    and I was not aware of DRASTIC Twitter group that was one of connections for Deigin and Segreto and Sirotkins

    https://www.cnet.com/features/how-the-coronavirus-origin-story-is-being-rewritten-by-a-guerrilla-twitter-group/

    “I seriously think that you are wrong by equating Quay and Deigin’s probability estimation regarding the furin cleavage with Intelligent Design theory. ” – Iirc Deigin did not make a quantitative argument. It was Quay. I glanced at his 193 page document

    https://zenodo.org/record/4477081#.YO4wuS2ZPq0

    and it gives me an impression that he threw everything he had including the kitchen sink at the problem. There is a part there where he estimates probabilities of sequences arising by natural process. My point was that the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses. It is only the beta coronavirus that do not have them at least the ones that we knew so far. How can he argue that the sequence in beta coronavirus is not possible while in other coronavirus it does exist. This is somewhat similar to the probabilistic argumentation used in the intelligent design circles. That’s why I brought up the Intelligent Design.

    I still suspect that Yuri Deigin had silent collaborators and perhaps even hidden motivators.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Brás Cubas
  298. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    David Martin misleading claims (in the 2020 Plandemic video) are dealt with here:

    New ‘Plandemic’ Video Peddles Misinformation, Conspiracies
    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/

    David Martin and Patent Claims

    • Thanks: Ron Unz
    • LOL: thotmonger
  299. cassandra says:
    @Robbyj73

    If this is a scam, it sure is a doozy.

    I just finished the video by Sergei Kurginian mentioned by Israel Shamir, in which mention is made of Harvard Prof Charles Lieber, who was accused of working with Chinese intel. Until this I hadn’t realized that Lieber was renowned for his work on nanowires.

    Just before that, I came across the viewgraphs (in Spanish) of a research group at the University of Almeira in Spain that a sample of COVID vaccine that they tested was mostly graphene oxide. They publish ultraviolet fluorescence data, transmission electron microscopy images, optical microscopy, and electron diffraction patterns. An interim report in English is here:
    https://carterheavyindustries.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/official-interim-report-in-english-university-of-almeria.pdf
    Fact checking sites pooh-pooh the reports’ conclusions as unsubstantiated because the vaccine package insert didn’t list graphene oxide as an ingredient (I’m not making that up).

    Turns out, graphene is commonly used for supporting nanowire circuits. It makes you wonder how little in this COVID episode is truly accidental.

    (I didn’t bring up magnets sticking to vaccinated arms lest Ron ban me.)

  300. Skeptikal says:
    @annamaria

    AM: Excellent compilation and summary.

    Thanks. Bookmarked.

    I would welcome a debate between Ron Unz and Dr. David Martin.

  301. Anon[588] • Disclaimer says:

    Mr Unz might be interested in this study published in the New England Journal of Medicine. Apparently the Chinese live-attenuated virus vaccine has very good real-life results.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2107715?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed

    Comparable to Pfizer’s real life 64%, without the creepy side effects.

  302. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    Thanks for your comment. I am just groping in the dark. Probably I am wrong about the role of Karl Sirotkin. Perhaps Rossana Segreto did not know Yuri Deigin prior to him publishing his work in April 2020 (Deigin claims he has published earlier on a Russian site but I haven’t been able to verify it).

    Thanks for the links, which I’ll try to take a look at. The problem is that I just don’t regard myself as having much expertise in microbiology let alone virology, so I’m not really sure I can judge these conflicting arguments on the plausibility of Covid being a natural virus. That’s the reason I tend to rely upon the analysis of others, whether experts in the field or top science journalists such as Nicholas Wade.

    Incidentally, this is exactly the intent of this particular comment-thread, and having it all cluttered up with Flu Hoaxery, anti-Vaxxery, Plandemicism, and quack cures considerably diminishes the usefulness, both to myself and others.

    I’ve been busy with other things and I see that the despite my warning, lots of this nonsense has crept in, so all of you should be warned that your future comments will just get trashed until you learn your lesson and go away somewhere else.

    I also noticed that in direct violation of my request, a bunch of people have included multiple duplicate Bitchute versions of that crackpottery, which has made the thread very slow to load because Bitchute is “heavy.” Since I’d warned you not to do that, I went through and disabled most of them. Probably all future Bitchute comments will just get trashed.

    Unlike the vast majority of other websites, we already have lots of comment-threads open to that sort of nonsense, so you can go over to those if you want. But stay out of this one, or you’ll just end up in the trash can. If you don’t like this, the go away to some other website, and good riddance to you.

    • Agree: Rahan
  303. monopduly says: • Website
    @Skeptikal

    I do not believe Trump’s Pompeo or other pro Trump neocons attacked China with a bio-weapon contrary to Dr. Unz’s claim although I understand his argument for the MIHOP narrative.

    I do believe and have documented above that there is a neocon disinformation or narrative shaping effort of a major scale centered at Bannon’s War Room and Raheem Kassam’s National Pulse. Their assignment of blame to the CCP is a diversion, but not from an American attack, but from a private SPECTRE type organization, privatized mercs work for consortia, the half assed effort recently in Haiti is a recent example

    The J&J & mRNA vaccines are gene therapy not traditional vaccines as they will gladly admit. The Russian vax is an actual vaccine.

    I don’t know why they want every one on gene therapy. My guess is that it will be hard to get off the boosters that are yet to come. Its an income stream .

    On the consortia merc hypothesis, brilliant screen writer Gagnon of Syriana explained from his research with Bob Baer on how the world really works. I hope Dr. Unz listens carefully to his claims:

    • Replies: @annamaria
  304. @Sollipsist

    I don’t know about “evil.”

    Indeed.

    I’m sure there are broken people who get up in the morning fully intending to cause suffering, but I doubt the wealthy and powerful are united by any conscious dedication to malice.

    Nonsense; the West is ruled by Satanists, and the fundament of Satanism is calculated evil, i.e. rising to the top not by their own merits but by bringing everything and everyone else down. Evil cannot tolerate a good example. They cannot control or compete with China for example so they try to destroy it. That’s what Satanists do; they destroy.

    Like most of us, they either fully believe in their own rightness or simply seek advantage without thinking too deeply about the consequences to others.

    No; (bad) consequences to others is what it’s all about.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  305. Thank You, Ron Unz for a unique line of inquiry.

    Ron’s analysis is probably the only one that looks at the strange behavior of the media – mainstream and social, and how it was likely manipulated, to help arrive at the very plausible conclusions that he has been proposing for over a year. Why Ron’s analysis gets such limited exposure is in itself very puzzling, and very very disturbing. Common sense seems to have vanished even among supposedly intelligent individuals. … Sigh.

    Deploying presumably trusted sources – Harvard professors, reputable journalists and the like, to engineer consent and social behavior has been a known technique in the CIA toolbox. Apparently, the CIA is used to deploying trusted individuals, e.g. prominent writes, to covertly promote their narratives. See:

    Keep up your line of inquiry to help seek the truth, Ron. Two Thumbs up!

  306. @Sollipsist

    The increase in wealth to billionaires at the expense of everyone else, from the start of lockdowns to now, has been called the “greatest transfer of wealth in history.” Even allowing for media hyperbole, it’s a shockingly obvious trend.

    Well what else would you expect under the circumstances? Just because Amazon for example was in a position to prosper during the pandemic doesn’t mean that “lust for money and power” (by Amazon stockholders?) was a “motive” for the release of SARS-CoV-2.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  307. It’s funny how Exponential Unz never addresses one very inconvenient truth: the average age of a coronasnuffles decedent is higher* than average human lifespan in the US and every European nation. Viz:

    Imagine, if you will, a virus so deadly that it increases average human lifespan.

    To whatever degree the elderly died in greater numbers over the past year, it was because* of facediapering and solitary confinement, not in spite of these barbaric and demeaning “health measures” [sic]. Hard men in prison tremble at the prospect of solitary confinement – I have seen it firsthand.

    Further, if every man, woman, and child supra 80 years old died right now*, it would not be a crisis – period, end of discussion. Almost no one over 80 does anything productive or civilization-sustaining.

    *emphasis in author’s original

    • Thanks: John Fisher
  308. Dumbo says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    over the next year as vaccinated people go back to normal, and transmission ramps us.

    I doubt there will be a “back to normal”.Yes, the outer appearances (masks etc) will go out, but the control mechanisms and the possibility to use them for other purposes will remain.

    I don’t think that the vaccine is the main desired outcome, but the tracking apps, the societal changes, things such as digital cash, and the use of mRNA therapy for several other purposes in the future.

    The problem of the vaccine is that it may (?) reduce symptoms, but it’s clearly showing that it’s useless to stop transmission (and apparently, even death, as almost 50% of the dead with Delta in the UK were fully vaccinated people). So even if you vaccinate all the population on the Earth, the virus doesn’t go away. Does it became like a new flu and you need a vaccine every year, like the flu vaccine? Or do you simply accept that you may get Covid one day, like you get the flu every now and then?

    Well, even before vaccines existed, diseases used to come and go, they never kill everyone, so perhaps it will disappear by itself.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    , @Skeptikal
  309. @Dieter Kief

    “then you’re going to hear uh uh
    43:46 ralph barrick admit that
    43:48 if they didn’t want you to know that
    43:50 what they made was made in a human lab
    43:53 they can make it look like it’s
    43:55 naturally occurring “

  310. @Ron Unz

    “Russia, America, China, Israel, Iran, and every other country are using various vaccines to combat Covid, and none of their leaders have said anything about this diabolical plot, so are they all in it together? “

    Agree. It is a ridiculous idea.

    So the ‘plutocracy’ {which, through its control of the media and the political process eg J. Corbyn in the UK?, remains unchallenged?} deliberately {or at the request of W.H.G.?} makes thousands of young people unemployed and possibly disrupt food supplies?
    Insurrection anyone?

  311. TTSSYF says:
    @lysias

    He’s 80 years old. Why is he still working?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  312. @Ron Unz

    I hadn’t looked at that video but, like you glanced at the written purported summary and was not greatly impressed. Eventually I began listening to the video but went to sleep before it got beyond the prima facie likely-to-be relevant discussion of patent searches. I gather I didn’t miss much food for the critical intellect. But please allow me to put in further mild plea to you and others to make use of podcasts of respectable broadcast programs, especially the likes of our ABC’s Science Show and Health Report (and of course Geraldine Doogue’s ABC Saturday Extra on which she no.inated a possible 4.5 million as the sacred Holocaust figure without objection). I live on a park in which during a 30 -40 minute walk I can sample several podcast interviews and, if points to follow up overflow memory I can easily scribble a memo on phone or wrist.

  313. Skeptikal says:
    @Mark Hunter

    Mark, I think you might be comparing apples and oranges.

    My understanding from a number of sources is that it is the spike protein in both the virus and the “vaccines” that is causing inflammatory symptoms in the vascular system.

    I do suggest that you watch the video first before deciding you understand what Dr. David Martin is saying about the thousands of patents already taken out on coronaviruses generally and the 73 taken out on the gene sequence in question now or other very similar ones.

  314. Erebus says:
    @utu

    A gold-boxed comment referring to an official censor in a comment thread pursuant to an article who’s title begins with the words American Pravda… The mind’s eye blinks in disbelief at the sight.

    The irony isn’t diluted by the censor site’s failure to address Dr. Martin’s primary point. Namely, that the patent and patent application record exposes the patent holders as a public-private cabal with deep conflicts of interest and full control of the virus, the spike protein, the tests and the vaccines. The circle is fully closed outside of the patent record in that some of the patent owners also have the power to authorize, if not mandate the use of the patented vaccines at their whim and further to suppress alternative vaccines and treatments.

    That this interlocking matrix of patent protection and institutional power didn’t arise organically is patent. In fact, it looks like a textbook case of racketeering. That is the thrust of Dr. Martin’s presentations. That you and factcheck.org ignore it in favour of tilting at incidentals is something we’ve all come to expect.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
  315. @Ron Unz

    Can I confirm that you give no weight or credence to any of the insinuations that Fauci has done anything sinister? About a year ago a lifelong friend who had been Chief Medical Officer for the Australian Government (at the yime of the original SARS I hink), a man of unimpeachable integrity, said he knew and had worked with Fauci and had no doubt he was honestly s serving the public interest. It seems to me that Fauci was very keen to anticipate future pandemics and to prepare vaccines and other measures against them. “Gain of function” aka genetic engineering, was an essential part of that and there is no need to suspect any wrongdoing in his finding a workaround Obama’s ban so that a laboratory in China, staffed by a number of people known to him, could work on something of potential utility to both China and the US.

    Not totally unconnected: how do you rate the timing of Event 201 just before the Wuhan outbreak as a relevant coincidence compared to the significance you see in the outbreak being well timed for New Year holiday visits to family in other provinces of China.? I don’t see anything sinister in Event 201 but why isn’t it’s timing as significant as the Chinese New Year? (On reflection I think the military games would have been avoided as likely to throw suspicion on some American team hangers on of no clear sporting relevance).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  316. Kali says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Without realising it, you are all making arguments born out of psychological need

    (My emphasis.)

    Which, of course, conveniently saves you the time and effort of actually considering and evaluating the merits or demerits of any arguments made by any one here.

    One can only assume, such is your own “psychological need”.

    I can’t think why, but suddenly I’m reminded of Monty Pythons’ Mr Gumby visiting the Gumby doctor:
    “Are you de… brain specialist?” (Funny scatch. You should look it up.)

    Regards,
    Kali.

    (P.S. @Ron Unz – (Our very own “cult leader! – Who knew? ) Thank you for altering my username as per my reply to Commenter Mike. Appreciated.)

    • Agree: Mehen
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  317. @TTSSYF

    Using one’s brain to solve interesting problems and do something useful to mankind would surely be enough. Think of Supreme Court judges. To be paid to do it and have authority to implement one’s ideas must make it just about irresistible.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  318. @James N. Kennett

    It was in our local West Australian. I talked about it for months before finally ringing the paper in Perth. I asked for the reporter who was writing about Port Arthur in the days following. Got put onto a guy who confirmed he wrote it, that the story was checked out. I asked what more came of it, and he said he was taken off the story next day and put onto something else.

    It was within days of the event. Very early reporting. I knew Joe Vialls, he was practically a neighbor. I was going to see him the day he died. I’ve got family in Tassie who know the Gunshop owner they tried to frame up. They wrecked the man’s life the bastards.

  319. Anon62 says:
    @Mehen

    Her name is “Maatje Benassi”

    An Army reservist recently found herself at the center of the coronavirus conspiracy mill after she participated in the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan, China, last fall.

    Sgt. 1st Class Maatje Benassi competed in cycling for the U.S. team during the October games, placing 8th in the 50-mile race despite suffering bruised ribs and a cracked helmet after crashing in the final stretch.

    SOURCE
    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/04/28/conspiracies-falsely-accuse-an-army-reservist-of-being-patient-zero-of-coronavirus-pandemic/

    COMMENT
    The story refutes allegations that either Benassi or her husband (also active military) have ever had COVID-19.

    Benassi is reported to have a security occupation at Fort Belvoir VA. Fort Belvoir is in close proximity to Springfield and Burke two towns which experienced an unexplained outbreak of an unusual pneumonia in senior citizen facilities.

  320. skrik says:
    @IronForge

    Thanks for the well thought out post.

    *Possibly Leaked/Stolen/Tested_as_Bioweapon in stages to see who it kills

    Ah! You mean some way of *evaluating* some ‘critical’ component(s)? How ‘funny’ then, that a mystery lung disease (from which 68 died), the symptoms of which included turning blue and pink-foam choking to death, then post-mortem ‘ground-glass’ lung x-ray images, ‘uncannily similar’ to fatal CoV-2 cases, again ‘mysteriously’ turned up then waned away [see Mr Utz’ “During 2019 there had been a flurry of unusual respiratory illnesses across America” and my #59 above]. The ‘mystery lung disease’ was called EVALI – perhaps an ‘encoded’ form of ‘evaluation,’ eh?

    But I especially do not like this bit [apparently correct]:

    *All Workable Treatments outside of the “Developing Vaxx” due to be released in Late 2020 were suppressed+censored in favor of the Future Vaxx

    *One* effective treatment would blow *all* EUA to bits. rgds

  321. Ron Unz says:
    @truthdigger

    Thank You, Ron Unz for a unique line of inquiry.

    Ron’s analysis is probably the only one that looks at the strange behavior of the media – mainstream and social, and how it was likely manipulated, to help arrive at the very plausible conclusions that he has been proposing for over a year. Why Ron’s analysis gets such limited exposure is in itself very puzzling, and very very disturbing. Common sense seems to have vanished even among supposedly intelligent individuals. … Sigh.

    Thanks for the kind words.

    Although certainly disturbing, the media/journalistic silence really isn’t entirely surprising, and I alluded to the reasons near the end of the first section of my very long article. Various somewhat prominent journalists have privately told me flat-out they fully agree with my analysis, but they obviously won’t say anything. Others have told me they can’t mention my theory, even just to attack or denounce it, for fear of being “cancelled.” Obviously, this means that many other journalists or intellectuals never hear about it in the first place.

    Meanwhile, there are an infinitude of videos or columns on the Internet promoting the most ridiculous sort of nonsense regarding vaccines, “patented viruses,” and Bill Gates’ diabolical plan to exterminate most of humanity.

    If you were the Deep State Neocons who probably caused this global disaster, which would you be more concerned about? Releasing a huge amount of such “chaff” is a good way of distracting people from considering that really happened.

  322. @Caspar von Everec

    I’m not sold on Ron’s theory but I think you may be ignoring important features of it. One is that he attributes the attack on China to a small group of rogue actors, not necessarily elderly, and, clearly, not well up on what might happen to America if borders weren’t closed or the precedents of SARS and MERS weren’t appropriate to predict what might happen.

  323. Erebus says:
    @Ron Unz

    Frankly, I’m not sure I’ve never gotten anything useful out of a video, so I almost never watch them.

    The triple negative notwithstanding, the reality is that in this world, if one has a message that one wishes to propagate widely, the most efficient way to do so is the video format.

    How many more people are aware of Doctors Yeadon’s, McCullough’s, Bhakdi’s, Tenpenny’s, Fleming’s, Malone’s, et al along with various groups of health practitioners’ thoughts and opinions on matters surrounding this pandemic due to their video interviews than would have even heard of them had they simply been published in some obscure journal that would accept and publish their paper? Orders of magnitude more, I’d warrant.

    You yourself claimed to have never heard of Dr. Malone, who’s almost as famous as they come in mRNA circles, but I’d bet my last dollar that more people know at least a few of those names than have ever heard of Ron Unz. That is not trivial if one has a message, and all those named feel that they have a message of vital interest to the public.

    Sure, some videos get a little hyperbolic and/or erroneous, but we’ve surely seen that just as often and just as egregiously in print. Most of the videos I’ve watched that intended to inform in this area are in the form of an interview/conversation with a prominent expert in the field of interest, and can be an eminently useful introduction to the subject matter.

    But if someone doesn’t want to take the time to produce at least a short written article outlining what he’s trying to prove, there’s probably nothing there.

    Most of them have, and the message dies. Why doesn’t UR invite some or all of the names mentioned above to write “a short article” for this e-zine with a promise to give it more than sidebar prominence?

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  324. @truthdigger

    Apparently, the CIA is used to deploying trusted individuals, e.g. prominent writes, to covertly promote their narratives.

    Irony, thy name is truthdigger. LOL

  325. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:

    A thousand thanks, Cassandra, for the Martin transcript,

    https://www.covidtruths.co.uk/2021/07/reiner-fuellmich-interviews-dr-david-martin-cdc-patent-fraud/

    Martin’s detailed investigation is extremely valuable. He reinforces Francis Boyle’s sources, civil society domain experts who have been monitoring US BWTC breaches.

    His timeline shows that the building blocks of the virus were being assembled around the turn of the century. That is when former DCI Bob Gates was at UT, overseeing compartmented biological weapons development at non-governmental research institutes nationwide.

    After publicly telling a UT audience that he loved it at UT and there was nothing for him in Washington, he skedaddled to the SecDef job. Why? His university researchers started dropping like flies from selected agents. UT waited a year to report it and took and the most draconian research suspension in US history, to cover Gates’ ass.

    Naturally, Big Pharma was profiteering from the grant bonanza and the privatized benefits of public research. Naturally Big Pharma doesn’t give a shit about safety or efficacy – they got complete liability protection. But Big Pharma was not driving the research. The prime mover was a CIA arms race.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  326. Kali says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    They told me my contributions were “out of this world” Wiz. – Or may have done if they’d told me anything at all.

    Try lemon juice (one or 2 lemons per day) to reduce the size of kidney stones. Works well for my gall stones.

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
  327. @utu

    Factcheck is not too keen on the Unz Review.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2018/05/bezos-didnt-endorse-michelle-obama-for-2020/

    FYI

    https://www.factcheck.org/our-funding/

    We do not accept funds from corporations with the exception of Facebook, which provides funding as part of Facebook’s initiative to debunk viral deceptions, and Google, which provided a one-time grant to support our COVID-19 coverage in 2020. Neither corporation seeks nor is given any control over our editorial decisions.

    So that’s all right, then.

  328. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Can I confirm that you give no weight or credence to any of the insinuations that Fauci has done anything sinister?

    As far as I can tell, Fauci was somewhat involved in funding the viral research of the Wuhan lab. Obviously, this became a huge concern to him when Trump and others began claiming that Covid was a bioengineered virus leaked from that lab, so he seems to have tried to cover up his involvement and help support the effort to have Covid disingenuously regarded as a natural virus, even what virologists privately told him it looked artificial. That’s certainly dishonest, but not very surprising, and it hardly makes him the henchman of Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab in their diabolical plot to exterminate most of the world.

    Not totally unconnected: how do you rate the timing of Event 201 just before the Wuhan outbreak as a relevant coincidence

    Sure, that’s certainly suspicious. But don’t forget that Robert Kadlec, one of America’s top biowarfare advocates, was brought into the Trump Administration in 2017, and then by 2018 and 2019, China was being hit by mysterious viral epidemics that devastated its poultry and pigs.

    So it seems plausible that if plans were also being considered for a Covid-type attack, vague suggestions/gossip of the growing possibility of a global virus epidemic might start floating around in elite circles, and this eventually persuaded the World Economic Forum people to organize their Event 201 exercise, even though almost none of the participants would have had actual knowledge of the plot.

    Under this plausible reconstruction, the general idea behind Event 201 might have been linked to plans for the attack, but the particular timing was probably coincidental.

    I find it much more suspicious that Kadlec had spent January-August 2019 personally running an American governmental simulation-exercise called “Crimson Contagion,” in which our government departments tried to protect the US from infection by a sudden huge viral respiratory epidemic in China. The Wuhan outbreak of exactly that type began two months after the exercise ended:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion

    There’s a 3,000 word New York Times story describing all the details, so it’s hardly a “crazy conspiracy theory.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  329. @Dumbo

    While the vaccine is only suppressing transmission, it has drastically lowered the death rate.

    The UK, where people have been socialising like crazy, has reached 36,000 cases a day. The last time the UK was at this rate, it also had 357 deaths a day; now it has only 50, most of which are antivaxx holdouts.

    I don’t think that the vaccine is the main desired outcome, but the tracking apps, the societal changes, things such as digital cash, and the use of mRNA therapy for several other purposes in the future.

    They could have easily brought in proper tracking apps at the beginning if the pandemic, but didn’t. This was remarkably pro-liberty of them; if according to my sadly lowered standards.

    The rest is just the direction of technology and what those in charge think would be best for the countries they govern. We can disagree with them, but it is hardly surprising when hammers always see nails.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  330. @Kali

    Which, of course, conveniently saves you the time and effort of actually considering and evaluating the merits or demerits of any arguments made by any one here.

    Already done that. There are very few merits and a lot of demerits.

    1. The military games isn’t cover. It is anti-cover. It would be the very worst time to seed a virus in Wuhan. Incompetence can’t explain the US using the absolutely worst time.

    2. The most contagious virus in the world is the very worst weapon to use against your biggest trade partner. Incompetence doesn’t explain using the very worst weapon at your disposal.

    3. The US had an anti-plan for if this particular virus escaped China. Everything they thought they knew about it, was the opposite of the truth, from symptom free transmission being missed, to certainty that it was not airborne. Even the CDC tests were wrong. You might perhaps claim that the US would not have a vaccine for its own virus, at a tremendous stretch, but to claim that they would know absolutely nothing about its characteristics is just so stupid.

    The idea that the US used the worst possible weapon, at the worst possible time and knew nothing about their own weapon, is a clown show that has gone on for over a year. It needed analysis of the participants.

    Notice, also how my analysis is so spot on that it has perfect predictive power for how people would try to “understand” each other? Kind of amazing for a psychological analysis on the internet.

    • LOL: Skeptikal
  331. SBaker says:
    @Ron Unz

    I haven’t commented here in quite sometime; I am not a politician from some 3rd world country and became bored with the ridiculous diatribes always pointing the finger at the civilized world to plae the blame for failures of their own making. I know something about biological agents and bioscience in general. Ron’s first comment is right on target. In early 2020, I expressed my concern about the bio-attack, primarily economic in nature, on the western world. The Chicoms have escaped their responsibility by blaming the west and covering their tracks–our media helped. Half the people in the US sided with China to hang the blame on President Trump–the old media empire has a powerful way of influencing the dull-witted and half the country followed.

  332. @Ron Unz

    China was being hit by mysterious viral epidemics that devastated its poultry and pigs.

    Ye, just like the EU tried to economically disable the UK by secretly funding a British Union of Chimneysweeps. Really going for the jugular.

    • Replies: @skrik
    , @Iris
  333. Iris says:
    @truthdigger

    Deploying presumably trusted sources – Harvard professors, reputable journalists and the like, to engineer consent and social behavior has been a known technique in the CIA toolbox. Apparently, the CIA is used to deploying trusted individuals, e.g. prominent writes, to covertly promote their narratives.

    This judgement of yours is correct and can unfortunately be extended to scientists.

    No need to dwell on the buffoons who have signed the 9/11 NIST engineering report, which was ridiculed at the time by high school-level Physics teachers, and has now been completely obliterated by the independent University of Alaska WTC7 collapse study, proving controlled demolition.

    The worst example of intellectual prostitution and public deception was the experiment carefully and trickily designed by Physics Noble Prize laureate Luis Alvarez, of all people, where he used an empty melon to “prove” that a headshot from the back could still project President Kennedy to the back, against common sense.

  334. Dumbo says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It doesn’t seem to be suppressing or reducing transmission at all…
    Death rate, maybe, but I don’t trust any of their statistics… Anything can be manipulated.

    Also, you forget we are in Summer in the North Hemisphere now… Last Summer things seemed to be improving too…

    We will see what happens in the Winter, I guess.

    As long as this story ends and we don’t hear anymore so much about it, I’m happy.

    But I fear they already have other “next pandemic” in the works. This was a great success for certain people, so I’d expect a repeat.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  335. @Ron Unz

    I found the following Covid19 timelines interesting. Not really much new info and mileage may vary, but both timelines seemingly support your hypothesis.

    The YouTube video mentions up to a 24 day incubation period. I had to back into longer incubation periods to make your timeline work. Just thoughts, I haven’t followed this nearly as closely as you and others. Fyi, Dr. Eric Topol was involved in the Merck-Vioxx debacle.

    • Replies: @Blackjack
  336. Kali says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    A short while ago, commenting on one of Gilad Atzmons’ threads, I suggested you read The Controvercy of Zion by Douglas Reed, as featured on the home page of this website.

    I also suggested that you take a look at Rons’ American Pravda series.

    Judging by your comments in this thread it seems obvious that you have done niether.

    I can only guess that your “subtle” thinking proccess precludes you from admiting new information which may lead to accute or critical thinking on your part.

    But regardless, please do simply read more. It might help.

    Regards,
    Free, unvaccinated Kali in Portugal. 😉

  337. skrik says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Because I’m a ‘data-pack-rat’ I have downloaded the video you cited:

    “Spike protein is very dangerous, it’s cytotoxic (Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch, Bret Weinstein)”

    But I don’t usually ‘do’ videos, preferring [cut’n paste capable] text.

    Now, I do know that the CoV-2 spike strongly resembles that of RaTG13 (bat,Yunnan), with the RBD/RBM apparently ‘snipped’ from MP789 (pangolin,Guangdong), whether that was by ‘natural’ recombination [kindly note that for that to happen, a covid-sick bat would have to be close enough to a similarly covid-sick pangolin, so that they actually exchanged bodily fluids *and* one of them became doubly-infected, the ‘magic’ of equivalent-component recombination of *exactly* the most critical component (to enable binding to human ACE2) *then* the infection would have to endure through multiple further infections, *finally* zoonotically ‘jumping’ to some human … phew! … OR by genetic manipulation = GoF in a) WIV AND/OR b) Ft. Detrick – phew again.]

    So [to cut a long story short] can you cite a proper, peer-reviewed paper that proves that the CoV-2 spike is cytotoxic? rgds

    PS The covid-sick MP789 pangolin captured as an intending illegal import was one of a batch, which was transferred to an animal shelter where, unfortunately, they all died. A witness said “They (the pangolins) were all crying.”

  338. @Titus Jerusalem Smasher

    Good points. Certain countries would be behind it, but they seem to be in league with private companies acting as proxies for an agenda, driven by certain bad actors. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, just an intuition that this is, as some other commenters have pointed out, not a China – USA thing, but a worldwide power grab.

  339. Skeptikal says:
    @truthdigger

    It seems that “mainstream” doctors and scientists are keeping their heads down.
    Many of them are beholden to Big Pharma.

    Even if not, they have jobs, families, mortgages.

    The few who speak up and attempt to explain to a lay public some of the things that are wrong with the current picture are immediately labeled “truthers” or some such.

    There has never been a greater need for critical thinking.

    Nothing can replace that. We are in a fog-of-war situation. Information warfare.

    Some are “regulars” and some are guerrillas. Some are “regiments” and some are Indians.

    You get the idea.

  340. @Dumbo

    It doesn’t seem to be suppressing or reducing transmission at all…

    There has been a tremendous surge in other respiratory diseases, recently. This reflects the fact that people are socialising much more than they ever did during Covid-19, when no one seemed to get any other illness that was contagious.

    This means that the vaccine has likely been good at suppressing transmission but far from a solution.

    The real point is that it has drastically lowered the lethality rate of the virus. You may be skeptical of official statistics, but I know doctors who see the evidence of this every day.

    But I fear they already have other “next pandemic” in the works. This was a great success for certain people, so I’d expect a repeat.

    These newer variants are a genuine worry. There is now a lot of evolutionary pressure on Covid-19 to continue to mutate in ways that will make the vaccines less effective at suppressing transmission. New vaccines for newer variants will be rolled out, much as they are for the flu. One hope, though, is that the virus will continue to mutate to escape the transmission suppression of the vaccine but not escape the vaccine’s effects on reducing lethality as much.

    A Covid-19 strain that was twice as infectious but non-lethal would end the disease as a concern of anyone. It would swiftly out-compete the current pandemic.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Dumbo
  341. @truthdigger

    It is eye-opening to see how many Boomer counter-culture heroes and icons were on the CIA payroll. Jackson Pollack, Peter Matthiessen, and too many others to list. Those limousine liberals skewered by Tom Wolfe were on the grift by the hundreds.

    Also Saunders’ book was vetted by the agency so all the best parts got deleted. For all we know the Beatles and the Rolling Stones could have been parts. The project was that huge.

    • Thanks: Skeptikal
  342. Skeptikal says:
    @Dumbo

    We are all familiar with the notion and I believe established fact that the overuse of antibiotics both prophylactically and as treatment has created selection pressure that has resulted in the evolution of strains of bacteria that are resistant to said antibiotics.

    It doesn’t require an above-average IQ to grasp the fact that overuse of “vaccines” that merely suppress symptoms but do not cure the disease nor kill the virus is creating an analogous selection-pressure situation.

    Still, those with intact immune systems and robust general health will be far better equipped to fend off all of these viruses, delta to lambda, alpha to omega, which deviate from the “original” by no more than 3%.

    • Thanks: Kali
  343. Blackjack says:
    @Ron Unz

    Having read TUR for many years and and been very appreciative for its publication of controversial articles regardless of political viewpoint, I was shocked to see the #1 comment by RU. To call “unorthodox medical cures a tangential issue” and then censor their discussion here has very serious implications as to the actual nature of this website. And just what is “anti-Vaxery” exactly?

    [MORE]
    Does the author seriously mean that the experimental gene therapy being virtually forced into the arm of every individual in the US is a bona fide vaccine? Would he care to prove that? Is he not aware of the VAERS reporting data, as flawed as it is, that has revealed that these injections have already proven themselves to be extremely dangerous for a multitude of reasons and should be stopped immediately? This data can be found everywhere by anybody who has paid attention, but it is summarized extremely well in the Steve Kersch article (https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/) linked by Mark Hunter in Comment #273. Interestingly, RU’s reply to Mark Hunter’s comment includes a simple ad hominem attack on Mr. Kersch. Is RU also afraid to reply to the facts that Mr. Kersch presents?

    It has been obvious ever since the data on Covid from the Diamond Princess cruise ship and the American naval vessel that Covid was nowhere near as virulent or infectious as it was being made out to be by Neil Fergusson, the MSM, governments and public health authorities around the world. And therefore it was also obvious that the solution to this viral disease was not to be found in a vaccine, but rather through natural herd immunity and treatment of the virus for the vast majority of healthy people. When Gates, Fauci, Redfield, et al began pushing the theme of “Vaccine Uber Alles” it was obvious that something was afoot with this “vaccine solution.” Now, a year later, as the data, the widespread case reports, the suppression of information from honest doctors and scientists are making clear, the injections are being revealed to be a principal, if not the principal, weapon of whoever is actually behind this undeclared war on all humanity other than the tiny insider group pulling the strings.

    In Comment #4 James Forrestal picks up on this question and suggests that it is a collusion between the Zionists and the CCP. Actually, that would make a lot of sense to me. The only fact that detracts from that hypothesis is the high percentage of vaccinations that have been forced on the Jewish population of Israel. But it wouldn’t be the first time that the Zionists have thrown their own population under the bus. One only has to go back 80-90 years for another example.

    • Thanks: Skeptikal, PetrOldSack
  344. Skeptikal says:
    @Anonymous

    “Why? His university researchers started dropping like flies from selected agents. UT waited a year to report it and took and the most draconian research suspension in US history,”

    Can you provide some documentation on this?

    Thanks!

  345. @utu

    My point was that the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses.

    If you think it is irrelevant that those sequences do not exist in betacoronaviruses, shouldn’t it be equally irrelevant that they do exist in other types of coronaviruses?
    I mean, your point seems to be that one can’t predict mutations based on what already exists.

    This is not to say that I know how to calculate any of those probabilities. I am just sticking to the logic of the thing.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @skrik
  346. @Harold Smith

    That’s assuming there was an intentional “release” that requires a motive. I don’t have enough certainty to make that assumption. On the other hand, evidence of human fallibility and opportunism is all around us, every day. People are far more full of mistakes and casual selfishness than they are of intent to cause harm.

  347. skrik says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Troll: I**3 = identify, inform, ignore.

  348. @Harold Smith

    Are you talking about a literal devil-worshipping cult that the most powerful people in the world consciously belong to, or is this more of a metaphorical description of an amoral mindset among the powerful?

  349. Blackjack says:
    @Herd Stupidity

    Do you have sources on Dr. Topol’s role in the Vioxx case?

  350. BaronAsh says:

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-racketeering-and-corruption-that-led-to-man-made-covid-virus-being-unleashed/

    An article published today (July 14) about all this. In a sane, honest world, this would be on the headlines of every paper. I think that it could add to Ron’s lead article here, taking it into new levels both of detail and scope.

    No matter how it all shakes out, at some point it will be impossible to deny that from a macro perspective, the entire SARS/COVID dynamic involves coordinated geopolitical regime change / command and control elements that seem to be at the helm.

    For decades various US Presidents warned about the behemoth being built in DC – Military-Industrial-Complex, The Money Power, Deep State, Intelligence etc. – and now it is becoming increasingly obvious as the last US election results are being substantively challenged (better late than never) that unless and until at least the Intelligence aspect is thoroughly dismantled that the old nation state system we have all lived in for generations now is about to be scrapped.

    In any case, hopefully some heads will roll about all this covid business.
    (Not holding breath, though!)

  351. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    Wow, Skeptical 351, it’s remarkably well scrubbed, which in today’s modern totalitarian world is corroborating evidence. I can reconstruct it with bookmarks and archive.com when I’m in the mood. U. of Arizona also had a lot of the most batshit work at the time. СВР РФ doubtless filed it all away for the climactic war crimes trials, because that was contemporaneous with Fruitfly, if you recall, which was primarily trained on Battelle, the guys who would do the most illegal touchy parts.

  352. Kali says:
    @Ron Unz

    If you were the Deep State Neocons who probably caused this global disaster, which would you be more concerned about? Releasing a huge amount of such “chaff” is a good way of distracting people from considering that really happened.

    Fair point, Mr Unz, but contained within all of that chaff are some very significant grains of truth.

    Unlike some other commenters here, I do understand why your focus has stayed on the initial outbreak/biowarfare attack. But I once again implore you to a deeper consideration of the near uniform Western response and its impacts on all of our lives.

    With that in mind, a week or so ago I read an open letter to members of the British government from a lawyer representing a former NHS practitioner, which succinctly and straight forwardly outlines most of “our” primary concerns.

    [MORE]

    Please do take a look, Mr Unz. I promise that it is entitely free of chaff, IMHO.

    Here’s a link to the pdf:
    https://lexmaxims.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/letter-to-sir-simon-stevens.pdf

    Or it can be read online here:
    https://principia-scientific.com/doctors-damning-legal-letter-on-nhs-covid-misconduct/

    It was also featured in Off Guardian, but was difficult to read on that sight where the pdf was “embedded” and cut whole paragraohs out.

    I assure you, if the aftermath wasn’t at least as earth-shatteringly important as the initial attack I would gladly shut up about it!

    Best wishes,
    Kali.

  353. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, there are an infinitude of videos or columns on the Internet promoting the most ridiculous sort of nonsense regarding vaccines, “patented viruses,” and Bill Gates’ diabolical plan to exterminate most of humanity.

    I would be very interested in reading an analysis of this phenomenon. A good taxonomy of that zoo would be handy. To what extent it is organic and grassroots and which part of it is being steered and by whom. There are articles looking at anti-vaxxers beliefs and psychological profiles. In the US and in fact in all Five Eyes countries (in Canada in particular) the correlation (0.4-0.5) with conspiratorial thinking among the anti-vaxxers is higher than in other countries. Twice as high as in Chile (0.2).

    A concern about vaccination is normal and understandable. People look at side effects and they worry. There were cases of Guillain-Barre syndrom which is serious and very rare disease (I know because I had it) form swine flu vaccine in the US and the vaccinations were stopped. More recently there were side effects from MMR vaccine in Japan and also the vaccinations were suspended.

    But then there is this paranoid style of thinking about vaccines which IMO is particularly virulent in the US and Canada. One part of it is that the greedy and unscrupulous corporations want to make money disregarding our needs and rights and the other part of it is that ‘they’ want to kill us or something even worse like turn us into zombies with brains directly connected via the G5 network to Bill Gates basement.

    Is it possible as you seem to insinuate that the anti-vaxx conspiracy theories are a part of Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration? Is it possible that there are strong external and foreign influences?

    We know that the USSR engaged in conspiracy trolling like the Operation INFEKTION in 1980s in relation to AIDS. Also more recently several years ago vaccination debate was heavily infiltrated by Russian bots and trolls during the measles outbreak.

    Weaponized Health Communication: Twitter Bots and Russian Trolls Amplify the Vaccine Debate
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/

    There is no doubt that Russian media and websites were engaged in amplifying doubts about western vaccines just as earlier during the pandemic they were amplifying doubts about lockdowns and masking.
    _________

    As far as your concern that the thread is cluttered with too much nonsense you have means to fix it. You just need to find a resolve to do it. But then who will comment under your articles? As the saying goes if you go to bed with dogs you wake with fleas. Your webzine is one of the greatest disinformation source. You have been giving platform to writers spreading all kinds of disinformation, foreign propaganda and all kinds of nonsense about the pandemic.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Skeptikal
  354. utu says:
    @Brás Cubas

    ” I am just sticking to the logic of the thing.” – In a wrong way. I think you do not or do not want to understand my point. Let me use Ralph Baric’s argument he used on Quay: we do not know what is out there, what is the pool of coronaviruses.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  355. SkyBot says: • Website
    @Emblematic

    If DJ Trump made an oral ex.ord. concerning the realease of the virus like “do something but I don’t want to know what you ‘ll do …” that would explain the behavour of the deep state and Trump during the election

  356. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    Is it possible as you seem to insinuate that the anti-vaxx conspiracy theories are a part of Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration? Is it possible that there are strong external and foreign influences?

    That wouldn’t surprise me. As I suggested in my article, the promoters of these various type of nonsense are probably a mixture of sincere advocates, self-serving charlatans, and disinformation operatives. But it’s very hard to say what the mix would be.

    The anti-vaxxers have been around for a while, and I doubt they started with any sort of government prompting. At least here in California, it was mostly affluent suburban women I think. But now that it’s merged with the various Covid conspiracies, maybe someone is using them as “chaff.” It’s obviously easier to get people deplatformed if you can argue they’re creating a huge health crisis.

    I don’t know anything about vaccines and haven’t bothered looking into the issue, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the anti-vaxxers are correct that the Covid vaccines are far, far more dangerous than the typical ones. After all, they were developed so extremely quickly, with minimal testing. I think I’ve seen claims that they’ve already killed 6,000 Americans.

    But let’s suppose that that’s correct and they’re horrifically dangerous by vaccine standards, killing 6,000/200 million people = 0.003%. That’s still more than two orders of magnitude better than Covid itself, which has a 0.5+% fatality rate.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  357. skrik says:
    @Brás Cubas

    1st from utu @303 then from you Brás Cubas @352 [this subject mentioned by michael888 @157]:

    My point was that the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses

    I’m presuming that you are referring to [what else?] the PRRA polybasic furin cleavage site insertion? IF so THEN kindly listen up: AFAIK, the PRRA insert is, to coin a phrase, very unique. It not only does not occur in any betacoronaviruses, it does not occur anywhere else at all [I did see one ‘claimant’ mention ENaC but no proof was provided, nor could I find any.] Worse, the PRRA insert uses human-type codons [mentioned by Deigin; “Odd CGG-CGG codon”“Most common codon for arginine in humans” = PRRA would most likely have to be human-sourced, and appears as an out-of-frame insertion to boot] as opposed to coronavirus-type codons [chicken/egg? Do I need to stress this? Recombination works by swapping like for like – there is no like. CoV-2 couldn’t infect humans without PRRA so it couldn’t be incorporated before infection = contradiction.] That’s enough for now; your task is to produce some proof of the assertion:

    the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses

    Just show us *one* “same sequence,” with credible proof, OK?

    My posit [repeat]: PRRA is a) lab-made and b) the ‘smoking gun.’ Find out who put it in, prepare the gallows; but only after the success of the $squillion-suit for the crimes causing damages to humanity. All as usual and only IMHO. rgds

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @utu
  358. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “This is a US government attack of unprecedented lethality with the most disproportionate and indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction ever devised.”

    Which is the weapon, again, the vaxx or the bug?

  359. @Kali

    Which of those works gave you the biggest sense of inner fireworks?

    • Replies: @Mehen
    , @Kali
  360. Mehen says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Douglas Reed’s “The Controversy of Zion” is a dense, magisterial work. I have not finished it myself as it is quite a slog, so I don’t begrudge anyone turning down the recommendation on that basis.

    Fortunately, today’s your lucky day, Triteilia. Here is quite good 40 page review of the book for someone who wants the “Cliff’s Notes” version. The reviewer also goes a bit into the author’s background/pedigree, the circumstances surrounding the writing of the book, and the aftermath in the wake of the book’s publication.

    https://www.robertsungenis.org/2018/01/review-of-controversy-of-zion-by.html?m=1

    However, I predict you will continue to turn your nose up and instead go for the low-hanging fruit of psychologizing your interlocutors.

  361. Skeptikal says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    “This reflects the fact that people are socialising much more than they ever did during Covid-19, when no one seemed to get any other illness that was contagious.”

    Well, yeah . . .that is the point of having an *effective* vaccine in the first place. People seem to have forgotten the purpose of an actual vaccine: to prevent infection/illness; kill the virus; prevent transmission. Socializing is what life is *supposed* to be like when people have been jabbed with a real vaccine. You make it sound like such behavior is the culprit in virus transmission. The culprit is really the defective “vaccine.”

    Obviously it is an admission that the “vaccines” to not kill the virus—if they did there would be nothing to transmit.

    “A Covid-19 strain that was twice as infectious but non-lethal would end the disease as a concern of anyone. It would swiftly out-compete the current pandemic. ”

    But in most cases the current virus is nonlethal. The best course therefore is to let the virus run its course mutating at will until it peters out, as do all viruses eventually, and treat those who fall ill with the numerous treatments now described in treatment protocols, to prevent hospitalization and death.

  362. Skeptikal says:
    @utu

    Sycophantic toady alert!

    “Will no one rid me of these dissenting commenters?!”

  363. This whole back and forth seems to confirm that while various parties may have engaged in conspiratorial activity around the Covid Crisis, the entire phenomenon is too big to fit into any uniform conspiracy box. The seem to be 2 primary conspiracy boxes which attract attention here, with perhaps some derivative offshoots. One is the anti-China, anti-Iran conspiracy box. The other is the anti-Trump conspiracy box. Although there are select facts which can be used to one and the other, the 2 together do not fit.

    Ron Unz has done here an interesting useful job of summarizing arguments for the anti-China, anti-Iran conspiracy box. If what Unz hypothesizes turns out to be true then this would point to a conspiracy made by Sterling Hayden and General Jack D. Ripper. It wouldn’t make much sense to say that the Rothschilds of London were out to strike at China or Iran this way. Most of the major business representatives such as Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg have generally favored business relations with China. Netanyahu’s defeat in Israel corresponds to the fact that many political forces on the international scene have turned against the Likudniks. Pushing Trump out of office was actually an important precedent for Netanyahu losing the Prime Minister slot. Although it is possible that some neocons linked with the military may have schemed to bring down China and Iran with a bio-attack, it seems clear that such people are not controlling the main agenda right now.

    On the other hand it’s obvious that Democrats and whole host of other officials around the world, including people in China and Iran, sought to use the Covid Crisis as a basis for tearing Trump down. If CV-19 had first started in northern Mexico and then spread across the border to the US then it would make a lot of sense to hypothesize that maybe the whole thing was a bio-attack planned by China and Iran to take down Trump. Trump had been playing up to hard-liners over China and Iran so it would have made sense for the leaders in these countries to want him out. I’m pretty sure that tradcon sites like RedState have occasionally featured editorials which suggest this as the cause of Covid. The problem is that such a conspiracy scenario makes no sense when the disease first seems to break out in China and Iran.

    If one looks at the way that Netanyahu went to work on assassinating Iranian scientists then it could seem easy to believe that maybe Covid was just the outcome of a Mossad plot to ruin Iran. But other developments elsewhere show that this has not been made to work for Netanyahu’s agenda. Hence why Netanyahu lost the Prime Minister slot. Most of the really vulgar political uses made of CV-19 read as opportunistic rather that conspiratorial. It’s obvious that Nancy Pelosi, Andrew Cuomo, Bill DeBlasio et al all did the most they could to first accuse Trump of racism for wanting to close the borders and then blamed his for letting the virus in. That was hypocritical in the extreme, but nothing suggests that it was more than opportunism.

    The latest wave of pot-shots against China reads more like damage control rather than as a well-crafted conspiracy. There certainly doesn’t seem to be much desire for disinvesting from China, so it’s not really likely this was a well-played conspiracy against China. But the way that it started out would resemble a conspiracy against China more than a conspiracy against Trump. So the main conclusion is that no single agenda has really been behind everything here.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  364. Dumbo says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I’m personally not so worried about Covid itself, although I guess some might be. I was and am more annoyed by the global changes and the increase of control that will likely not be rolled back. Also booster shoots every six months or every time you want to travel is not something I’m looking forward to.

    Look, as far as I’m concerned, Covid is just a cover or an excuse for other things they want. Is it natural from some bat? Is it man-made in a lab? Or is it all a hoax? It doesn’t really matter, Big Tech and Big Gov increased their control, Big Pharma made big bucks, some people lied and others died, “Never let a crisis go to waste” is how they think.

    And as for vaccines… We will see… The polio vaccine, that arguably “saved millions of lives”, also contaminated millions by mistake with a simian virus SV-40, resulting in many people getting cancer 20 years later.

    http://www.sv40.org/

  365. Dumbo says:
    @Ron Unz

    But let’s suppose that that’s correct and they’re horrifically dangerous by vaccine standards, killing 6,000/200 million people = 0.003%. That’s still more than two orders of magnitude better than Covid itself, which has a 0.5+% fatality rate.

    Perhaps. But Covid kills mostly people older than 70-80, while the (supposed) victims of the vaccine have been much younger.

    Also, many people died from Covid even after the two shots, so I’m not sure if that enters into the “Covid” count, or the “vaccine” count. And we don’t know the long-term effects.

    Is it possible as you seem to insinuate that the anti-vaxx conspiracy theories are a part of Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration?

    This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard, but coming from Utu, it doesn’t surprise me.

    Look, millions of people, not just fringe “anti-vaxxers”, are suspicious of the mRNA vaccines and of the whole Covid thing, for pretty obvious reasons. Keeping insisting everywhere that they are “100% safe” makes it even more suspicious, it’s like putting a “Come in, It’s Safe” sign in white van next to a school.

    If you can’t understand why so many people are suspicious or concerned about what has been happening since 2019, then there’s probably something wrong with you, or you’re on the Big Pharma payroll.

    “If I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand.”

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @Wizard of Oz
  366. Fr. John says:

    Never forget. When all is said and done, Unz…. is a Jew.

    “The existence of the Zionist regime is based upon the belief that they have to destroy the belief in God throughout the world. Another one of their goals is to destroy the other peoples both physically and economically. Every believer throughout the world should fight Zionism. Whoever cooperates with Zionism in any way is, in fact, opposing his own religion. Whoever believes in Islam and wants to support the Zionist regime in any way, rather than be hostile to it is, in fact, casting doubt upon the sincerity of his belief…. We have a great problem. By fabricating lies about the Holocaust global Zionism has succeeded in distorting historical truth in its favor…
    – Rabbi Moshe Aryeh Friedman [ Austria]

    “If my son’s did not WANT wars there would be NONE”. Gutle Schnaper Rothschild, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, on her deathbed, 1849.

  367. @Mehen

    However, I predict you will continue to turn your nose up and instead go for the low-hanging fruit of psychologizing your interlocutors.

    I’ll read the 40 pages, mainly because I appreciate the effort to offer it.

    I also agree that analysing the interlocutors is low-hanging fruit, but I believe that I don’t do so until I’ve given sufficient reason for rejecting the theories they present.

    Once I find that they can no longer continue what I perceive as rational discussion, I move onto analysing what is obstructing them.

    There would be no material to work with if they only presented impersonal reasons.

    I’ll report back to you once done. Maybe I’ll even write about it. I have been considering writing a series of “love letters” to the various political personality archetypes I encounter. Experience has taught me that all change begins internally, so it would be the closest thing I could sincerely offer as substantially helpful.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    , @Kali
  368. Another element of the vaccine promotion are the rabid attacks on proven treatments for COVID. From my blog:

    Vaccine or Ivermectin

    [MORE]

    Ivermectin is a cheap FDA approved drug that has been used for decades. Dozens of studies have proven it a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19. COVID vaccines are not approved by the FDA and side effects are worrisome, but is encouraged by the FDA for “emergency use” since their is no FDA approved treatment. If the FDA admits that ivermectin is effective, then the experimental COVID vaccines will instantly disappear from the market! A single ivermectin tablet taken weekly prevents COVID. If everyone began taking it COVID-19 would disappear in a month.

    As a result, the FDA warns that taking life saving ivermectin for COVID is unsafe

    “Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19” https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

    which as experts on a recent Joe Rogan broadcast explain is absurd. (Youtube quickly deleted it. Watch highlights here on Bitchute.)



    The FDA states that is hasn’t reviewed data or begun trials to evaluate the value of ivermectin in treating COVID, but is sure that it’s not safe. “The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; however, some initial research is underway. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too.”

    Meanwhile, the FDA says everyone must get COVID vaccines that the FDA has not approved and have not been proven safe, although the FDA does say ivermectin is safe for treating a dozen diseases, just not COVID.

  369. @Dumbo

    I agree.

    I do not like how the reaction to Covid has changed the political economy of the world.

    I dislike even more how it has affected the culture of the places I frequent; and I am close to hating what it has done to the type of anxious, need to be in control, but fundamentally generous people, who have transformed into full lock-in germaphobes, despite being in extremely low risk groups.

    May the experience teach them to step outside of themselves to avoid literally imprisoning themselves.

  370. @Dumbo

    I often hear people exclaim they got the vaccine and feel fine. But then they could be exposed to high levels of radiation or lead and feel fine for years, until…

  371. Herald says:
    @the grand wazoo

    The Martin video blows the lid off the Covid scam. Martin, perhaps not always convincingly, tends to the view that “they” are doing it for the money and yes many of those down the chain will be doing just that. However high level globalists don’t need the money and are being driven by something other than financial greed.

    For me it’s almost certainly depopulation that the real monied want and the heavily massaged figure of five hundred thousand deaths is just a pinprick in this savage throw of the eugenicist dice.

    We know that by itself Covid-19 can’t bring about the desired carnage and likely, well almost certainly, the real bioweapons are the “vaccines”, that they have been working on for years, as Martin tells us. Over the next year or so the vaccines will probably be causing untold havoc amongst those who have unwisely rolled up their sleeves, after having put their trust in Fauci and his globalist friends.

    As for China, well it’s hard not to go along with Ron Unz here and I would suggest that the Chinese were being set up, from the very moment that the Wuhan Institute naively undertook to do work for Fauci. The security services would also have been heavily involved in a plot of this magnitude and the Wuhan World Military Games, in the fall of 2019, were an opportunity that was just too good to let pass by.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @annamaria
  372. Let us recall “Gulf War Illnesses”. Tens of thousands of veterans were forcibly injected with a new anthrax vaccine that had not been fully tested. The problems caused by this are disputed and of course downplayed by the government and Wiki, but does state:

    [MORE]

    Anthrax vaccine
    Iraq had loaded anthrax, botulinum toxin, and aflatoxin into missiles and artillery shells in preparing for the Gulf War and these munitions were deployed to four locations in Iraq.[48] During Operation Desert Storm, 41% of U.S. combat soldiers and 75% of UK combat soldiers were vaccinated against anthrax.[18](p73) Reactions included local skin irritation, some lasting for weeks or months.[49] While the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the vaccine, it never went through large-scale clinical trials.[50]

    While recent studies have demonstrated the vaccine is highly reactogenic,[51] and causes motor neuron death in mice,[52] there is no clear evidence or epidemiological studies on Gulf War veterans linking the vaccine to Gulf War illness. Combining this with the lack of symptoms from current deployments of individuals who have received the vaccine led the Committee on Gulf War Veterans’ Illnesses to conclude that the vaccine is not a likely cause of Gulf War illness for most ill veterans.[9] However, the committee report does point out that veterans who received a larger number of various vaccines in advance of deployment have shown higher rates of persistent symptoms since the war.[53][9],

  373. I don’t like the way patents are involved in any of these things, vaccines or viruses . Bringing the profit motive into this area of public health makes me squeamish.

    https://tv.gab.com/channel/realalexjones/view/top-equities-investor-there-is-no-60ee0fb8032e3093a342d284

  374. utu says:
    @skrik

    Furin cleavage sites naturally occur in coronaviruses (January 2021)
    YiranWu SuwenZhao
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165

    Furin cleavage sites occurred independently for multiple times in the evolution of the coronavirus family, supporting the natural occurring hypothesis of SARS-CoV-2.
    https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S1873506120304165-ga1.jpg

    There is no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (May 2021)
    Alexander Tyshkovskiy, Alexander Y. Panchin
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.202000325

    “Therefore, there is no evidence that the 12-nucleotide fragment of the SARS-CoV-2 furin cleavage site was introduced artificially and did not, instead, emerge in nature.”

    Naturally occurring indels in multiple coronavirus spikes (Nov 20)
    Robert F. Garry and William R. Gallaher

    Proponents of theories for the unnatural origin of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) have asserted that the 12 nucleotide insert in the spike gene, which results in acquisition of a furin cleavage site in spike, may have arisen by laboratory manipulation (Relman, 2020; Segreto and Deigin, 2020; Seyran et al., 2020; Sirotkin and Sirotkin, 2020). Here, we compile evidence demonstrating that insertion/deletion (indel) events at the S1/S2 and S2’ protease cleavage sites of the spike precursors are commonly occurring natural features of coronavirus evolution. We also identify heretofore undescribed similarities in the S1/S2 and S2’ cleavage sites of multiple diverse coronavirus spikes that provide further evidence against a laboratory origin of SARS-CoV-2.

    Spike protein mutations in novel SARS-CoV-2 ‘variants of concern’ commonly occur in or near indels (Jan 20)
    Robert F. Garry, Kristian G. Andersen…

    Hence, analyses suggesting that the evolutionary origins of the RmYN02 S1/S2 cleavage site can be revealed by a simple nucleotide alignment (Segreto and Deigin, 2020) are overly simplistic.

    The Sarbecovirus origin of SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site
    https://virological.org/t/the-sarbecovirus-origin-of-sars-cov-2-s-furin-cleavage-site/536

    • Replies: @skrik
  375. @utu

    we do not know what is out there, what is the pool of coronaviruses.

    This seems to be a different kind of argument from the one you used before which seemed to imply there is no point in knowing what is out there, since a lot could happen in evolution, so even if there is nothing out there, a lot that is not out there could still happen.

  376. @Patrick McNally

    That is a great take P. McNally.

    Who do you work for? : )

  377. Ron you are right to raise the very odd attack on Iran early on. Other than that I am really surprised at how many things you get wrong or seem oblivious to.

    You raise Kadlec’s Crimson Contagion simulation exercise. I can’t tell if you think Kadlec is therefore an arsonist / one who has foreknowledge – or if you are sincere in your statement “… we must commend him for his considerable prescience…”. You do not come across as sarcastic here. If you are credulous, then perhaps that explains why you find no fault with Bill Gates and his Event 201, held in the fall of 2019 simulating a global corona virus pandemic. Did you know that Gates initially lied about the exercise and said some BS like “we had no idea this could happen, we were unprepared…”

    Have you looked at who joined this “exercise”? Members of the Team come from Johns Hopkins, Columbia University, the World Economic Forum – of Klaus Schwab fame, the UN, the Chinese Center for Disease Control, the US Center for Disease Control,
    Companies represented include Marriott, UPS and oh by the way, Johnson and Johnson.
    At least one member of the team has quite the background with the CIA & the NSA (Avril Hines https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/players/haines.html). I’m quite sure Fauci had his minions present too.

    Further, you repeatedly talk about the “strong public health measures implemented” as if they were necessary, justified and effective. This is stunning. The measures were unjustified, unnecessary and far more harmful than helpful.

    Where do you note the massive censorship campaign (which Bill Gates publicly supports) and call attention to it? Where is your rejoinder that those who are censored are the ones we should listen to?

    You cast aspersions on those who question germ theory. How about you turn your investigations to Terrain Theory versus Germ Theory and Exosome Theory versus Virus Theory?

    You claim that the virus is dangerous and the “vaccines” are safe. Jesus Ron, what the fuck?

    [MORE]

    Do you know about VAERS? Do you know that it has recorded more vaccine deaths from Covid in a 6 month period than all the deaths ever reported in VAERS combined? Do you know that a CDC sponsored Harvard study found in 2013 that less than 1% of vaccine injuries or deaths get recorded?

    Do you know that the Euro equivalent of VAERS (EudraVigilance) has recorded 20,000 deaths and close to 2,000,000 million injuries – half of which are serious? I think you don’t know this.

    As one commenter pointed out, your ZOG / CDC dialectic seems to blind you to other more likely scenarios. How about if global elites fucking hate their populations? Just because Putin says there’s no way the leadership of multiple countries conspired together, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen Ron.

    Have you overlooked how closely the Gates Foundation, the WHO, EcoHealth Alliance, the NIH & NIAID etc, etc., work together?

    Have you seen how Gates funds universities (such as the Imperial College), media (such as NPR and the Guardian), NGOs (such as the WHO), etc. etc..

    What the fuck is wrong with you Ron? For someone who is able to see through the machinations of the Talmudic devils who run much of the world, why can’t you see all of this blatantly obvious collusion around Covid and the “vaccines”?

    Finally Ron – before you destroy all of your hard-earned credibility – stop writing about this until you do some actual investigation into the elements I bring forward here and those brought forward by so many commenters. Pull your head all the way out of your ass on this one Ron.

    I’ll give you one thing to watch right now that should disabuse you of the most idiocies in one fell swoop. Here is Dr. David Martin who uses the trail of patents around all things SARS, going back to the early 2000’s. This is full proof of massive RICO conspiracy. Then come back here and share with us your new and far greater understanding of the Covid fuckery.

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/a-manufactured-illusion-dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich-9-7-21_hPChWe1no7nxGDM.html

    • Thanks: Skeptikal, Kali
    • LOL: Mehen
  378. MarkU says:
    @utu

    I decided to fact check the ‘fact check’ site for myself and it appears that it is basically nothing but a gatekeeper site for official narratives. Apparently…

    1) Ivermectin, HCL and vitamin D have been shown to be ineffective.
    2) The spike protein is entirely harmless.
    3) There is no credible evidence for the lab release theory.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/baseless-conspiracy-theories-claim-new-coronavirus-was-bioengineered/

    I have given a link to the latter claim because if that website is to be trusted then Ron Unz may as well stop writing on the subject and should seriously consider retracting this and his previous related articles. Personally I wouldn’t trust that website as far as I could chuck the server but perhaps Ron Unz has a different view, he appears happy enough to accept its authority when it suits him to do so.

  379. @Ron Unz

    Yes, obfuscation by releasing, or encouraging the release of, a huge amount of ‘chaff’ to distract attention has to be a tactic in the toolbox of a well-oiled social engineering machine.

    Those behind-the-scene people with an agenda, e.g. the Deep State Neocons, will continue to do what they always do to engineer ‘reality’ (Karl Rove’s style) in the minds of the masses. Most disturbing though is that the masses in America, including many intelligent people, seem to, time and time again, make it easy for those people to implant whatever ‘reality’ they want to implant in our collective brain. We seem to be incapable of even considering alternate narratives, however reasonable, let alone sifting through the chaffs for the wheat.

    I care enough about this country to be very disturbed. Insanity is the inability to see reality as it truly is. By that definition, we are going collectively insane but are incapable of noticing it.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  380. @MLK

    Excellent comment. This is the side of Ron that blows my mind.
    I’d have hit Agree or Thanks but I comment too infrequently to have that privilege.

  381. Iris says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Ye, just like the EU tried to economically disable the UK by secretly funding a British Union of Chimneysweeps. Really going for the jugular.

    Go easy on sarcasm, since you are so ignorant; it only attracts more attention on your idiocies.

    Using the military technology available today, it would have been easy for any ill-intentioned party to spread crop and cattle bio-agents in China without being noticed.

    Military micro-drones such as the Black Hornet Nano unmanned aerial vehicle have only a size of 4X1 inches (10X2.5 cm), weigh 18 grams and fit in one hand. They are so extremely tiny as to be easily smuggled inside a target country. They have an autonomy of 25 minutes and can be flown by one single person.

    Fitted with night vision capability, they can be flown at night to spread viruses or bacteria. I am not sure this would be even necessary since, unless one gets close, they will probably pass for birds.

    American, British and Dutch special forces have been using them in Syria, where some prototypes were fetched by the Syrian national forces. Possibly, other bio-catastrophes are being engineered there as well by the “Human-Rights worshipping” imperialists.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    , @d dan
  382. @RudyM

    Amen RudyM. You were much more diplomatic than I.

    And one thing the American Pravda series has taught us is that while Ron is brilliant, he can be really slow on the uptake. He’s given us lots of examples of this.

    RON – READ THIS AND TAKE IT TO HEART.

  383. @Triteleia Laxa

    I also agree that analysing the interlocutors is low-hanging fruit, but I believe that I don’t do so until I’ve given sufficient reason for rejecting the theories they present.

    Like many of the commenters here I actually am in possession of a psychiatric diagnosis. Performed by a board certified M.D. psychiatrist. He wrote it down mid way through my third 50 minute hour.
    I would tell the world no problem if it seemed relevant. Also since it took him 125 minutes to decide I presume if anybody else were to write down here what it happened to be from reading my comments it would be a lucky guess.

    Comments regarding a commenter are 99.99% noise. If they are making a stupid or a crazy comment it is more than sufficient to point out the stupidity or the craziness in their point if you are capable of doing so!

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  384. @Iris

    Using the military technology available today, it would have been easy for any ill-intentioned party to spread crop and cattle bio-agents in China without being noticed.

    Very easy, but pointless, with extreme consequences if caught, and negligible gain, no matter how successful.

    It is so easy to do this that cannabis producers across North America regularly pull nasty tricks against each other using drones, according to a major player I met in the industry.

    Given the complete lack of motive for US government involvement, and given the ease with which highly-motivated Chinese farmers could disrupt their competition, those farmers are much more likely culprits, if anything even happened at all.

  385. Anonymous[437] • Disclaimer says:

    One of the important factors here is the intensity of brainwashing to coerce consent for this medical experiment.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/an-army-of-big-biotech-companies-is-using-psych-tactics-to-create-vaccine-demand

    No doubt part is it is standard commercial demand induction, “coke for breakfast” scaled up by two orders of magnitude. But part of it is probably intended to divert intention from the criminal origins of this banned biological weapon. CIA mad scientists want to fixate discourse on the medical response and avoid investigation and prosecution of their crime against humanity.

  386. @Morton's toes

    I appreciate you for sharing, but if you go back and read the comment which you are replying to, you should find that it already answers your reply.

    I will also emphasise that I am analyzing, not diagnosing, their comments.

    Diagnoses can be useful, especially if medication will be involved, but they are blunt tools. I find that descriptions of the actual person need to be much more personalised to be accurate.

    A lot of people will be diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder, for example, but often they have a lot things to think through and, taking advantage of modern technology, are merely living with unusual priorities. Their unhappiness can come more from them judging themselves for their choices, and not understanding those choices, than from the consequences of their lifestyle.

    • Troll: Kali
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  387. @Wizard of Oz

    Using one’s brain to solve interesting problems and do something useful to mankind would surely be enough. Think of Supreme Court judges. To be paid to do it and have authority to implement one’s ideas must make it just about irresistible.

    Hard to grasp for most.

    On the contrary…the weight of being paid, makes any “useful” mere opportunistically useful more often. Supreme Court Judges have a stack of cards to draw from: ego, pay, generational prestige for their off-spring, friends, co-investors, other. A Nancy Pelosi or a Christine Lagarde spend more time grooming their cranky asses then thinking the “useful”. Or seem it thy inappropriate doxing?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @PetrOldSack
  388. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    … I had a few very slight dealings with Steve Kirsch about twenty ago, and although he’d been quite successful in his tech business, he struck me as an extreme egomaniac and something of a nut. Frankly, I’d regard him as having negative-credibility, so if he supports something, it’s a little more likely to be nonsense.

    There is more evidence about the vaccines than probabilities based on personalities.  Dr. Meryl Nass and Dr. Peter McCullough are compelling sources of information on the vaccines and they make the same points Kirsch does.  (Dr. Nass endorsed the video an abridgement of which I linked to in post #243.)

    [MORE]

    Somewhere in another video – I don’t have a reference handy – Dr. MCCullough calls Kirsch “flamboyant,” which sort of meshes with your observation of 20 years ago, but he was smiling when he said it.

    Personally I find all four people mentioned in this and my early posts (or five counting Brett Weinstein, who is more of a popularizer) very credible. I hope you won’t let Kirsch’s apparent obnoxious personality keep you from investigating the safety of these particular vaccines, especially among the young, and the “elite’s” massive propaganda effort behind them.

    • Troll: Realist
    • Replies: @Herald
  389. Skeptikal says:
    @truthdigger

    ” Most disturbing though is that the masses in America, including many intelligent people, seem to, time and time again, make it easy for those people to implant whatever ‘reality’ they want to implant in our collective brain. ”

    I think this is a result of watching TV.

    Also the “intelligent” and “intellectual” get their news and views—especially the parameters of what is “acceptable”—from the NYT and NPR. And both of those are controlled.

    [MORE]

    Think WMD. Think Russiagate. Think 9/11. . . . . [the list is long] Think covid-19.

    When the wheels come off (plausibility no longer deniable) these narratives these outlets can be relied upon to cover for the liars (“At the time everyone thought Saddam had WMD”—uh, no).

    Other than that if the wheels don’t come off (plausibility still deniable) they can be relied on to maintain the fictions via constant repetition by constantly restating lies as established fact to back up other ostensibly unrelated narratives lies (“if a few jihadis armed with box cutters could bring down two sky scrapers, then X . . .”).

    As for “collectively insane” it’s called mass hysteria, and it is of course fueled by an endless stream of lies and half-lies, otherwise known as propaganda. When it comes to the covid-19 op and the resulting hysteria about a “lethal novelvirus setting out to kill us and mutate itself visciously,” it is seems as though our host, Mr. Unz, has not yet been able to rip aside the veil. Not quite as blinded as the blogger known as The Saker, but close.

  390. @Mehen

    It is not what I expected. I would never have imagined that it would call Arius Jewish, the French Revolution a Jewish plot and the Jew’s existence in Israel, a literal summoning of the anti-Christ.

    It also claims that Jews are the pawns of Satan, but, in giving them sole agency over the world, it actually makes them out to be God, which is equally extravagant and silly.

    I especially find it amusing the way in which it cowardly backs down from this implied thesis, by arguing that Jews only wield that omnipotence, because of the absence of the Catholic Church.

    This seems a motivated and jammed-in answer, and completely unconvincing, even within the text’s internal logic.

    I don’t like demonisation of the “other” ever; even demons deserve love and compassion. It also harms the person doing the demonizing in insidious ways, and places them into darkness equally as impenetrable as the imagination of the person doing the othering.

    I am, therefore, exceptionally uninclined to like this book.

    [MORE]

    Finally, to engage with people on this book, considering that it deals with religious, occasionally spiritual matters, you might want to find out where they stand on these. I am not religious and my spiritual beliefs are my own, and entirely from first-hand experience.

    Fundamentally, this means that I can only find religious arguments as persuasive as to the extent with which they interact with my own experiences; which I also don’t see any point in explaining at length.

    Suffice to say, no one ever really dies, everyone deserves, and will one day, receive love and light or even become it. The only darkness is in ignorance. If some phenomena like Satan exists, then he could do with a hug and some understanding, to help him release himself from his own prison; as he would not have been placed there by God or the universe; because everyone imprisons themselves and can walk out as soon as they, in their heart, feel they are worthy.

    Everyone is worthy, they just can’t see it, but I can, which is nice for me. Now people will consider me crazy…

    • Replies: @Mehen
    , @Mehen
  391. Skeptikal says:
    @MLK

    “The Covid in all its uncertainty was and remains a perfect tool for concentrating minds and ensuring compliance.”

    Yes, Gleichschaltung 2.0, International edition.

    Well done, MLK.

  392. @Ron Unz

    Conspiracies are propagating claims that the virus was developed by the United States/CIA for use as a bioweapon. Rumors are also being widely circulated in Russia and Iran that the coronavirus is a U.S.-made bioweapon. Across the Arab world, disinformation campaigns are peddling the idea that the pandemic is the product of a Jewish or Jewish-American conspiracy to decimate the world population. In Iraq, for example, conspiracy theorists are pushing the narrative that a rich Jewish family, the Rothschilds, is behind the global outbreak.

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