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Chernobyl Reactor, April 26, 1986. Credit: Wikimedia Commons
Chernobyl Reactor, April 26, 1986. Credit: Wikimedia Commons

Sometimes a single precipitating event may play a crucial role in the collapse of a decaying empire.

Such was the case with the Chernobyl disaster of 1986. The sudden accidental meltdown and explosion of one of the USSR’s most advanced nuclear reactors produced a large-scale release of radiation across Europe. The catastrophe was regarded as devastating proof of the terrible decrepitude of the Soviet system, and became one of the biggest stories of the closing decades of the twentieth century.

Indeed, writing on Chernobyl’s twentieth anniversary in 2006, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev even suggested that the disaster “was perhaps the real cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union.”

Probably Soviet Communism would have eventually fallen regardless, but Chernobyl may have greatly accelerated the process, and the next few years saw the Fall of the Berlin Wall, the exodus of the Warsaw Pact countries of Eastern Europe, and soon afterwards, the disintegration of the Soviet Union itself.

Yet although Chernobyl may have ranked as the worst nuclear disaster in history and its political consequences were immense, the comprehensive 33,000 word Wikipedia account reveals that the actual statistics were far from overwhelming. Two engineers died in the initial explosion and two more were badly burned. Another 134 members of the staff were hospitalized with acute radiation syndrome, and 28 of these died in the months that followed, along with an additional 14 suspected deaths over a decade.

Later studies suggested that the increased radiation across the Soviet Union and its successor states eventually resulted in 4,000 other deaths, while there were as many as 16,000 extra fatalities across all of Europe during the decades that followed. But given that regular annual deaths across that large geographical region were around 8 million per year, an annual increase of a thousand or so represented an invisibly small change.

Moreover, except for the few million individuals living in the vicinity of the disaster, the only impact upon the lives of ordinary people was the fear of radiation generated by the media. Indeed, if the Chernobyl disaster and the resulting radiation had not been widely reported in the press, few people around the world would have ever become aware of it.

In sharp contrast, consider the global impact of the Covid epidemic that began in Wuhan, China during late 2019. According to the best estimates of the World Health Organization, some fifteen million people have already died as a consequence, either from the disease or its indirect effects, while the Economist has estimated that “excess deaths” may be closer to twenty million. Moreover, the daily lives of many billions around the world have been enormously disrupted, both from the disease itself and from the unprecedented public health measures implemented to control it. Huge economic transformations and shifts in world trade have also occurred.

Chernobyl ranked as one of the most important events of the late twentieth century, but these comparative statistics suggest that the global Covid epidemic has been up to a thousand-fold greater in its destructive social impact.

 

Perhaps our gigantic current disaster was just a natural calamity brought about by the random mutation or recombination of an existing animal virus. If many millions died from a series of massive earthquakes or volcano eruptions, the political consequences might be minor. But there is considerable evidence that in this case, a human hand was responsible.

In late 2021 the Wall Street Journal devoted a full page to the discussion and review of several recent books analyzing the origins of the Covid epidemic, with all of these strongly arguing that the virus came from a laboratory. I soon responded with an article of my own, discussing both the books and that accompanying review.

All these authors had fingered the Wuhan Institute of Virology as the probable source of the virus, which they claimed had accidentally leaked into the surrounding city and then afterwards spread across the world, a scenario that carried momentous political implications. As I wrote:

One of the books discussed is by Jasper Becker, a British journalist who had spent 18 years as a Beijing correspondent, and the closing paragraph of the review quotes him as suggesting that a Chinese admission of responsibility could even lead to the downfall of the ruling regime:

The national shame might spell the end of the Chinese Communist Party’s seventy-year rule. It would start a political earthquake which would begin in China but spread around the world.

However, as I explained, both the reviewer and the author upon whom he relied were seriously misinformed about important elements of twentieth century history:

The reviewer notes that Becker draws upon history to suggest that China’s current denials cannot be trusted, emphasizing that during the Korean War the Chinese Communists had launched a major propaganda offensive, falsely claiming that the American military had used illegal “germ warfare” to attack China’s own forces:

This is one reason why Western intelligence agencies are likely to doubt or at least question official accounts about the origin of the virus and the role of the Wuhan Institute of Virology…While the Chinese and Soviet governments pushed a completely false story of its enemies waging war with bioweapons against civilians, they actively pursued their own germ warfare programmes in secrecy.

Becker and the reviewer both reasonably argue that if a government has been caught lying in the past about biological warfare, its current claims about the Covid outbreak cannot be trusted.

I am sure that the vast majority of readers simply nodded their heads at all of these statements and earlier this year I would have done the same. But several months ago I had carefully investigated the history of American biological warfare and discovered that the story I had casually absorbed from our media was the exact opposite of the historical truth. Based upon declassified government documents and other fully mainstream sources, there was actually overwhelming evidence that the Chinese had been telling the truth during the Korean War while our own denials had been false. America had indeed used illegal biological warfare during that conflict.

I have no doubt that Becker was being entirely sincere, and his statements on that specialized historical question were simply due to his acceptance of the conventional media narrative rather than any deliberate deception. But suppose we now apply his own standard. Once we recognize that China had been truthful in the past, while America had both employed illegal bioweapons and then lied about their use, these disturbing facts must inform our own analysis of the Covid outbreak.

Perhaps Covid was a natural virus and perhaps it accidentally leaked out of a Wuhan lab. But there is also a third logical possibility, that it was deliberately released in one of China’s largest cities as a planned biowarfare attack. The Covid outbreak occurred at the height of China’s ongoing international conflict with America, so elements of our own hostile government would be the obvious suspects. None of the three books seemed to recognize the existence of this hypothetical possibility even merely to dismiss it, an enormous blind spot that may or may not be due to the constraints of the American publishing industry.

 

At the time these books and the review appeared, the possibility that the Covid virus had an American origin had remained totally unmentionable in the Western media, but in the last few weeks this situation has suddenly changed.

Prof. Jeffrey Sachs of Columbia University ranks as a pillar of the mainstream establishment and served as chairman of the influential Covid commission established by the Lancet, a leading medical journal. In May, he broke his silence and co-authored an article in the prestigious Proceedings of the American Academy of Sciences making the case that the virus was clearly artificial and calling for an independent investigation into its possible American origin.

Sachs’s huge political bombshell was almost universally ignored by our timorous Western media. However, in June he made similar public remarks at a Spanish conference, and a clip of these went super-viral on Twitter at the beginning of July, now retweeted 11,000 times and accumulating nearly a million views.

In a column last week, I argued that the cat was therefore out of the bag, and Britain’s Daily Mail soon proved me correct, publishing an article that finally broke the media embargo:

The Daily Mail has long specialized in covering those subjects too “hot” for the rest of the mainstream media. As a result, it has achieved a reach second only to that of the venerable BBC, with more than twice the traffic of the Washington Post and five times that of the Wall Street Journal. The explosive story about Sachs’s revelations quickly accumulated a couple of thousand shares and 1,800 comments.

Furthermore, a previous February article in the Daily Mail had discussed new scientific evidence that a crucial component of the Covid virus came from a sequence previously developed and patented years earlier by Moderna, a leading American biotech company. Although there is no evidence that Moderna itself had any direct connection with Covid, this seemed to establish that the virus was indeed artificial and further suggested an American origin.

 

So courtesy of Sachs, a public debate has now begun on whether Covid came from an American lab. But the two earliest major outbreaks occurred in China and Iran, striking the two countries in the world most subject to American hostility, surely a rather implausible result from an accidental release.

The absolutely unmentionable subtext of the current discussion is the obvious possibility that the Covid virus was created in an American lab and then deliberately deployed against China and Iran just as the Iranian government had claimed at the time, eventually leaking back and devastating America and the rest of the West.

Over the last two years I have been virtually alone in advocating this controversial hypothesis, which has been almost totally excluded from both the mainstream and the alternative media. My lengthy series of articles can be read on this website, and have also been collected together in a freely available eBook, which has been downloaded more than 11,000 times:

 

In 1986 the globally-dominant Western media ensured that the Chernobyl disaster came to symbolize Soviet incompetence and dishonesty, and used that incident to inflict a crippling and perhaps ultimately fatal blow upon the tottering Soviet Empire. But today, the West still totally dominates global media, so as yet the American Empire has suffered no serious consequences for its likely role in the vastly greater Covid disaster. However, that may now be starting to change.

Google and Facebook are the primary gatekeepers to the global Internet, and days after I published my first article in April 2020 analyzing the origins of Covid, they banned our website and deranked all of our pages, severely reducing our ability to disseminate our information. Similarly, Google’s Youtube division is the world’s dominant video platform, and apparently shadow-bans videos if their discussion of Covid strays too far from the standard narrative.

However, Youtube’s increasingly strict political censorship on so many topics has created an opening for rival video platforms, and according to a March New York Times article, Rumble has become the primary competitor, especially attracting conservatives and Trump supporters alienated by Youtube’s severe restrictions. After Russia’s large RT channel was banned by Youtube, it also shifted to Rumble.

Rumble’s traffic still remains merely a sliver of Youtube’s, with the latter attracting roughly 100x as many monthly visits. But Rumble’s refusal to suppress controversial content has left it as one of the best choices for those who challenge establishment dogma, and I’ve been very pleased with my own results. Just before the February outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine war, I did several video interviews on my Covid analysis with small podcasters, and these have now been viewed more than 600,000 times on Rumble, including over 100,000 additional views in just the last ten days.

Moreover, two of my video interviews have now broken 200K views each, totals that would seem to rank them among the most popular on that video platform.

Having been banned by Youtube, Alex Jones now focuses on Rumble and he has 127K subscribers, but if you sort his videos by views, none have broken 70K views. If you search for “Tucker Carlson,” about a dozen of his videos are over 300K, but the overwhelming majority are far below 100K. And except for its continual Livestream video, only four of RT‘s Rumble videos have broken 100K views, with the vast majority being closer to 10K views.

If my interviews with tiny podcasters may have accumulated more views on Rumble than 98% of the videos featuring Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson or by RT, that suggests the enormous potential audience for a candid discussion of the likely true causes of a global disaster probably a thousand times more serious than Chernobyl.

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  1. Jasper Becker served as a Conservative counsellor after his return to England. In my opinion he is simply a typical Western MSM Sinophobe propagandist, peddling race hatred of a country that has dared to outdo the White Herrenvolk, of which he is such a sterling example. His lies re. the US use of germ warfare during the Korean War are proof positive of that. And the idea that a Government in China that enjoys 90% or so popular support could be brought down by one disaster, is a favourite wet-dream of racists like Becker.
    As for Chernobyl, I remain convinced that it was sabotage, as no other Soviet reactors of that type have suffered such calamities, and the behaviour of certain individuals involved was criminally reckless.

    • Agree: Sisifo, picture111
    • Replies: @JM
    , @JR Foley
    , @Anonymous
  2. saggy says: • Website

    WW III will be a 1,000,000,000 times greater disaster, and we’re on the verge. Perhaps you haven’t noticed.

  3. H. L. M says:

    Ask yourself, what exactly is Covid 19?

    Is it really what the government wants you to believe, a new disease caused by a deadly “virus” (Sars Cov 2) that has never been proven to exist?

    Or is it a mix of propaganda and the flue, with the odd bioweapon thrown in to make people believe the lie?

    Remember that the CDC’s own stats show that there were 36 million cases of the flue in 2019— and 1600 cases in 2020.

    Think about it…………

  4. I was nodding along with this essay until reaching this part:

    Prof. Jeffrey Sachs of Columbia University ranks as a pillar of the mainstream establishment and served as chairman of the influential Covid commission established by the Lancet, a leading medical journal. In May, he broke his silence and co-authored an article in the prestigious Proceedings of the American Academy of Sciences making the case that the virus was clearly artificial and calling for an independent investigation into its possible American origin.

    This is the very same Jeffrey Sachs who was featured in a 2009 Lancet article in a most unfavorable manner. Now a piece from the David Duke site, of all places!

    Jeffery Sachs policies in Russia killed millions: Lancet study
    February 14, 2016
    https://davidduke.com/jeffery-sachs-policies-russia-killed-millions-lancet-study/

    Commentary — Harvard economics professor Jeffrey Sachs was recently in the news for calling Hillary Clinton a warmonger. He is certainly right on that conclusion, although he is wrong when he calls her a servant of the military-industrial complex. She is a whore for the Zionist supremacist complex, of which Sachs is a leading luminary.

    It deserves mentioning that not only did Sachs, as an advisor to then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin in the early 1990s, help a Jewish mafia heist the most valuable assets of the Russian state, his policies also led to a massive increase in the Russian death rate, as the following article demonstrates.

    How did this mass murderer turn into a fellow who chaired a Covid commission by the very same journal which had published the 2009 article? Mr. Sachs obviously has a LOT of money, and has been quite busy rehabilitating himself. Got to assume some people at Lancet were paid very, very well.

    Another working assumption: Mr. Sachs is not a disinterested party regarding the origins of Covid, and whatever the merits of this present piece, they must stand independently of Sachs’ influence and bloviations.

    (also https://www.thenation.com/article/world/harvard-boys-do-russia/ )

    almost forgot the Lancet article: https://www.networkers.org/userfiles/lancet_privatization_and_mortality.pdf

  5. Ghali says:

    “… the Covid epidemic that began in Wuhan, China during late 2019”.This is the biggest BS and the most vicious and racist anti-China propaganda. There is virtually Zilch (Zero) evidence to substantiate this vicious allegation.

    • Agree: picture111
    • Replies: @Swaytonious
    , @Anonymous
  6. theMann says:

    “According to the best estimates of the World Health Organization, some fifteen million people have already died as a consequence, either from the disease or its indirect effects, while the Economist has estimated that “excess deaths” may be closer to twenty million. Moreover, the daily lives of many billions around the world have been enormously disrupted, both from the disease itself and from the unprecedented public health measures implemented to control it. Huge economic transformations and shifts in world trade have also occurred.”

    I can tell you precisely how many people have died of “the Covid”:

    Zero.

    I cannot tell you how many people have died from the “indirect effects” (what a hilarious lie), the big three of which are:

    1. The systematic and nearly instant imposition of a transnational medical tyranny, which has killed through both deliberate mass murder, and gross medical incompetence.
    2. The imposition of the War Crime casually referred to as “lockdowns”.
    3. The mass deaths inflicted by the “vaccine”, which total continues to relentlessly rise.

    BTW number three is going to loom ever larger in the History of the World. Little by little, people are beginning to realize that if they have been gene jacked by the mRNA destroyer, they are the walking dead. (Because deliberate sterilization just wasn’t good enough, apparently. Reference Gardasil if you like).

    Right before our eyes, History is taking an interesting turn.

  7. @saggy

    WW III will be a 1,000,000,000 times greater disaster…

    … a pertinent observation, but off by at least 8 orders of magnitude.

    Given that – in the very best case – at least 100 million people (men, women & children) will die from the global Corona Chan operation (principally from the fake “vaccines” but also the extensive collateral economic and social destruction), then Exercise WWIII will – in the very worst possible case if it manages to kill everyone – only be about 70 times as bad as the Corona Chan plandemic, and likely far less than that if the plandemic inflicts greater losses than that most optimistic estimate of just 100 million (which is very likely).

    Exercise WWIII probably won’t actually kill everyone – but the orchestrated Corona Chan exercise might still pan out to be far worse than anyone has yet realised (don’t forget, creepy Bill and Melinda giggled on camera as they warned us that the next pandemic “would really get [our] attention”).

    FWIW, Martin Armstrong says Socrates is warning that Exercise WWIII will kick off around 2024.

    That still leaves an awful lot of time for the WEF’s plandemic campaign and corresponding economic and social extermination to cull the herd.

  8. Beagle says:

    I suggest you look into the attribution of death to COVID19, from the RT-PCR testing scam revealed decades ago by no less than the inventer of the PCR process, Nobel Prize-winning Kary Mullis, through the “liberal” (per Birx in a WH presser) cause of death declarations. We had a motorcycle accident “COVID death” here. And perhaps most chilling, the overuse of ventilators and eventually Remdesivir (known to cause organ failure) in the US, and high dose Midazolam in the UK, an execution drug in its extreme off-label usage. Moreover, use of known drugs like HCQ and IVM were prohibited despite studies showing efficacy and their being approved drugs. It’s quite a rabbit hole.

    Obviously people died. Many died of respiratory distress. But many people always die of that. Which is why the attribution of PCR was and is so important. I think if you look into these issues you’ll realize the numbers are to some extent fabricated for a purpose.

    Given the instant lurch into prolonged medical tyranny including coerced shots, I think it’s reasonable that was the purpose all along. This MIT Technology Review article came out in March 2020, perfectly timed with the pandemic declaration by WHO. Pay attention in particular to the three paragraphs starting with Israeli intelligence using anti-terror tools to track everyone, you know, for their health.

    We’re Not Going Back To Normal:

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/17/905264/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/

    • Agree: WingsofADove
    • Replies: @meamjojo
  9. JM says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    You behave like a mixture of a Chinese government agent and a disciple of the late, unlamented professional White Hating Harvard (!) academic, Noel Ignatiev. In either case you are a prime example of the claim that ‘they gassed the wrong people’.

    • Agree: Mike Tre, Alden
    • Troll: Olivier1973
  10. @H. L. M

    Good questions, that should be considered against the indisputable facts that –

    1. no government agency or medical institution anywhere around the world has yet been able to provide isolates of the alleged Corona Chan virus, despite numerous Freedom of Information requests, and

    2. in the absence of any isolated samples of the alleged Corona Chan virus anywhere on Earth, the PCR tests which were used all over the planet to generate the “pandemic” were calibrated to detect residual artifacts of the common cold virus (and they jacked the number of test cycles up – typically 40+ cycles here in Australia – to guarantee “positive detection” results with these fake Corona Chan PCR tests).

    Just those two morsels should scream to anyone with more than two working brain cells – “Game over!”

    BTW, the new-fangled rapid antigen tests which are now selling like hot cakes are similarly fake. Anyone thought to ask why testing for the “spike protein” injected by the fake “vaccines” would be a good idea? Go figure.

    • Thanks: Sisifo
  11. Unz:

    … the Chernobyl disaster of 1986 .. was regarded as devastating proof of the terrible decrepitude of the Soviet system .. Gorbachev even suggested that the disaster “was perhaps the real cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union.”

    Here’s another perspective on the collapse (bold text added by me):

    In June 1982, Israeli ground forces pushed into Lebanon in an effort to put an end to cross-border terror attacks. .. the initial phase of that operation included a spectacular moment when the Israeli Air Force destroyed 19 surface-to-air missile batteries, with no losses, and downed a huge number of enemy aircraft.
    ..
    In Moscow, the Bekaa Valley operation threw military men into a kind of shock. Top Soviet systems had been trounced. On a visit to Czechoslovakia in 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the Bekaa Valley air war made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and in this Czech general’s view, the blow to the Bekaa Valley SAMs was part of the cascade of events leading to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    From The Bekaa Valley War by Rebecca Grant, June 2002
    http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2002/June%202002/0602bekaa.aspx

    Note that the article appeared in a publication not given to shameless attention seeking conspiracy peddling crackpots.

    • Replies: @profnasty
    , @Kratoklastes
  12. Ron,

    You are the only commentator I know who always perspicaciously observes the strange behaviors of the media and see beyond what meets the eyes:

    1. Your observation of the synchronized narrative from internet sites promoting as early as Jan/Feb 2020 the, at that time rather novel, ‘Wuhan lab leak’ meme, when China was still scrambling to find out what was going on.

    2. Your observation of the silence in the mainstream media on Iran’s direct, and explosive by any normal measure, charge of their Covid outbreak as a US bioweapon attack.

    3. Your observation of the huge ‘blind spot’ in the media, mainstream and alternative, on that third possibility of a US lab origin and/or US bioweapon attack on China. One would think that that any competent analyst would be able to identify that possibility by enumeration alone. Or perhaps it was not a ‘blind spot’ afterall. Perhaps it was fear to look under the rug as Prof. Jeffery Sachs suggested.

    4. Your observation of the same ‘blind spot’ in those published books on Covid origin.

    Silence speaks a lot. Whether the silence is orchestrated or self-imposed, the phenomenon is scary. For it speaks of an information landscape that is not concerned about information, let alone truth.

    When society can sacrifice truth just like that for whatever the 30 pieces of silver, society is doomed. This is scary indeed.

    I just want to thank you, Ron, for your always keen observations especially on the behaviors in the media landscape, and your ability to infer from them insights that many cannot or do not want to see.

    • Replies: @Kapyong
    , @Chebyshev
  13. Of course the plausible deniability is so deafening, you need noise canceling headphones just to make sense from all the cancelled noise being censored from broadcast 24/7/365.

    It’s obvious C19 was deliberately released in one of China’s largest cities as a planned biowarfare attack and the FrankenClotShots are race targeted gene altering depopulation therapies forced on humanity as an emergency use order by tyrannical government and health tyrants coving their behinds for fear of global repercussions.

    And just when you need another war to distract from abortions, inflation, energy, GlobalHomo and open border invasion, our fearless enemy Russian, discovered while having to engage in a military operation in Ukraine to protect its people and sovereignty, uncovered 40+ bio labs in Ukraine that were found to be testing banned viruses (Ebola, gain of function pathogens…).

    As Clown World as this sounds, it’s as if Dr. Evil was the real villain behind this bioweapon attack and is holding humanity hostage for a “One Million Dollar“ ransom.

    • Agree: picture111
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  14. @saggy

    So, instead of the 20,000 excess deaths attributable to Chernobyl, WW3 will entail 20 trillion excess deaths? Oh well, something to look forward to I suppose.

    To those who will (predictably) be over-exercised by the present essay, please keep in mind that a significant portion of the readership here is also convinced that the moon landing was a hoax.

    • Agree: meamjojo
  15. If the numbers are to be believed. We are talking about the biggest liars on the planet when we’re talking about the very incentivized rat bags who infest our government.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @We Rats
  16. Judar says:

    Not one single mention of the vaccine, aka the clot shot.

    • Agree: Durruti
    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  17. Once again, Ron Unz has stepped into the mass media void with a contemporary explication of Hans Christian Andersen’s classic insight: The Emperor Wears No Clothes.

    That Covid, whatever it may come to be broadly understood, was developed in a U\$\$A government affiliated laboratory, most probably as an extension of the Fort Detrick center of biological warfare; has now through the efforts of Unz as well as numerous other investigators; been revealed as a horrific weapon of mass murder.

    Logical extension of the why’s and the wherefores of this assault on humanity insists that the still formidable open-minded elements of the intelligentsia are even now asking themselves what was the reasoning, the purpose of this attack of planetary scale.

    A mass awakening is even now formulating itself as millions of minds are now addressing the simple question of WHY.

    This developing awakening is hardly limited to the intelligentsia. Rather, it is being intuited by tens of millions of questioning individuals.

    Consider the machinations of those propounders of the New World Order, fronted by the trillionaire
    financial elite’s World Economic Forum, incorporating the Club of Rome, the Trilateral Commission, the Davos clique. They have openly postulated that their vision is a massive reduction of the world’s population.

    These schemers and plotters are creating their own formulation of the Four Horsemen, particularly man-made diseases and the deliberate destruction of the food-supply network as well as a massive inflation of not only the money supply but also of energy shortages…both created manmade disasters facing billions of human beings.

    Covid was created as a means to an end…that end being a massive die-off of the human population and the imposition of total world domination of the survivors by that tiny financial elite…the satanic masters of war.

    Courageous individuals are sounding the tocsin. Among many others such as Robert Kennedy Jr., the creator of this last bastion of open public discussion and debate over critical matters of the day, Ron Unz deserves recognition and kudos for their brave stands for the future of humanity.

    The cat is now out of the bag. Even the controlling power of the mass media of mind-control and domination of the narrative will not suffice to fend off our Great Awakening to the nefarious schemes of the elite.

    • Thanks: Kali
  18. God bless you, Ron, for continuing to press the issue on this matter and not letting it fizzle and die out without gaining any momentum, as so many issues have before it.

  19. mephisto says:

    Your thesis of US made virus is logical. Fauci funded the research at Wuhan lab, so that he could have direct knowledge of what’s being made inside that lab. So then the CIA could release a similar virus in Wuhan and blame it on China. Plus the evidence of virus spreading to Iran of all places, pretty much is conclusive. Of course, CIA controls the media therefore none of this will ever get to the public in any meaningful way.
    They got away with killing the Kennedys, 911, and countless other deeds; this is just another. One must ask: so what now?

    • Replies: @michael888
  20. anon[102] • Disclaimer says:

    Yet more bullsh*t from UNZ. When is this guy ever going to acknowledge that it’s the so called vaccines that are causing the vast majority of excess deaths?

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  21. Pascendi says:

    “while the Economist has estimated”

    Citing that Rothschild-owned rag doesn’t bolster your argument.

    • Agree: Haxo Angmark
  22. tom67 says:

    About the scale of the Chernobyl disaster: hundreds of thousands of volunteers and conscripts were put in helicopters and then dropped on the roof of the reactor to shovel radioactive detritus in a few sesonds and then evacuated again. The fate of these hundreds of thousands was never followed up as soon the SU collapsed and people had other problems. I personally know of two such cases. Both were brothers and sons of former partisan Sonya. Sonya, a true Soviet patriot had made her sons (one 18 the other 22) volunteer. Both died a few years later from rare cancers. They can´t be found in any statistics. The true impact of Chernobyl has been carefully hidden by international agreement. Only immediate deaths were counted. The long term cancers, anemic children etc which resulted were never officially recorded. There is a report by the Russian academy of sciences that estimates one million victims. It came out more than twenty years ago and has been conveniently forgotten. Parts of it were published in English here: https://web.archive.org/web/20110419144513/http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov%20Chernobyl%20book.pdf
    As to Covid: think of Boris Johnson what you may. When he was informed that the average age of dying of Covid was greater than the average age of dying in Great Britain (84-82) he quipped: get Covid die later.

  23. GMC says:

    I’m more inclined to believe that Chernobyl and Fukushima were No accidents. There has been enough well written and researched information pertaining to why and how these ” accidents” just happened. As, sabotage type technology mated with Geopolitical one world order agendas, things look a lot different now. Facts in place during the time of the ” accidents” were thrown out from the same media that led us to where we are now.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
    , @Durruti
  24. Twenty-nine USAF pilots and navigators testified, in writing, about their roles in bio-attacks on Korea and China.

    Their words and photographs, along with on-the-ground interviews with victims of the various plagues we unleashed, can be found here:

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Thanks: picture111
    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    , @S0S
    , @milosevic
  25. Jiminy says:

    Can Chernobyl really be considered the worst nuclear disaster of the twentieth century. I wonder if the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki would agree with that?
    What I don’t follow, is why have the Chinese been so dogged in their determination in locking down their cities for so long. Some say it’s a bluff to starve the west of products.
    After just getting over covid, which truthfully felt like any other mild form of the cold, my opinion is bolstered even further that all is not as it seems. It hasn’t been for at least the last two years. Videos of Chinese collapsing in the streets are now said to be fake. Were the burials of the dead on Hart island fake as well? Same for the refrigerated trucks waiting outside of US hospitals. Didn’t this just highlight the poor state of the hospital system in the US?
    I wonder how many monuments will be erected to all of those that have died in this 21st century holocaust. Probably none.

    • Agree: Ray Caruso
  26. Remember that the CDC’s own stats show that there were 36 million cases of the flue in 2019— and 1600 cases in 2020.

    So, you’re saying, what? That Covid is a re-purposed or renamed flu?

    Probably true to some degree. But, let me mention that one of the first Doctors to develop an effective Covid treatment using existing drugs, the recently deceased Dr. Zev Zelenko, described in mid to late 2021 how he had tested hundreds of his symptomatic patients for both Covid and the seasonal flu.

    Yes, we know the Covid PCR tests are bogus but, they did test positive for that while testing negative for the flu. He was genuinely dumbfounded that so very few of his patients in 2020/early 2021 tested positive for the flu. He even suggested, in a very subtle, read-between-the-lines sort of way, that the lack of flu vaccines being given during that time could have something to do with the low flu occurrence.

    I got smacked hard with an illness in early 2020 that was utterly unlike anything I’ve ever had. Bizarre symptomology along with typical heavy respiratory reactions. Didn’t consider it could be Covid until a couple of months later. Had two harsh symptoms last another 7 months!! Never had an illness that lingered that long.

    I have no trouble believing a virus was amped (gain of function) in a lab and released. It was the pretext to “The Great Reset”.

    • Replies: @Sisifo
  27. Eagle Eye says:

    It may be appropriate to re-post a comment in response to Mr. Unz’s earlier piece that he graciously acknowledged at the time (slightly revised as shown).

    Eagle Eye says:
    August 10, 2021 at 5:21 pm GMT • 11.2 months ago • 100 Words ↑

    John W. Powell deserves an honorable mention for bringing Chinese claims of U.S. bacteriological warfare during the Korean War to the attention of a broader audience in the West and connecting them to U.S. records obtained through FOIA requests. Powell, his wife and a collaborator were tried for sedition but the (federal) judge had the courage to declare a mistrial. A separate charge for treason was later dismissed when RFK became attorney general.

    [Later,] in 1981, Powell published an article entitled “Japan’s Biological Weapons, 1930-1945” arguing that some details of Japan’s biological weapons program were still being kept under wraps by the U.S. government.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_W._Powell

    Much earlier, in 1947, John S. Powell’s “China Weekly” had been one of the first voices to inform a Western civilian audience of the brutal suppression of civil political participation in Taiwan with the murder of thousands of native Taiwanese Chinese by Chiang Kai-Shek’s military regime, the so-called 2/28 Incident. Amidst the civil war then still raging on the Chinese mainland between the KMT and the CCP, U.S. and Chinese (KMT) authorities had been keeping a tight lid on all information regarding events in and around China. The situation was further complicated since Taiwan had been a Japanese colony for fifty years, since 1895. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/78209491

  28. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:

    Evil fucking lies. I knew the push for nuke power was coming. Now it’s here. This organ is nothing but sheepdog chronicle of all the latest ruling class talking points.

  29. So many aspects of the ‘pandemic’ are illusory and/or rigged, especially official statistics, deliberately in order to elicit consensual paranoia, that I am skeptical of any analysis. Like the 9/11 conspiracy, facts may be known to a small minority but the truth will forever remain suppressed by a media establishment that has been set up for that very purpose. Those who control and propagate the official narratives adhere to a special organized crime cult with its rules for reward and punishment enforced down the line.

  30. SafeNow says:

    Perhaps the best way to grasp the capacity of the U.S. to crush the truth from emerging is to review the Flight 800 aftermath. Ron Unz wrote an excellent summary that can be read in three or four minutes.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-destruction-of-twa-flight-800/

    Truth emerging for Covid probably rests its hopes upon a mere handful of whistleblowers emerging. For flight 800, 278 witnesses saw a missile, and there were radar data, and missile-type explosive residue. All manageable by the propaganda machinery. By comparison, a handful of Covid whistleblowers would be small beer (if anyone still uses that expression.)

    • Agree: Avery
    • Disagree: Chuck Orloski, Chuck Orloski
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  31. Sinoamerican virus has more similarities with HIV than with SARS virus, yet governments call it SARS CoV 2 to deceive the niggers, whiteys, chins, and japs.

    The only similarity between Sinoamerican and SARS is spike protein as the container (the cloth) which is not lethal, yet governments directed niggers’s, whiteys’s, chins’s, and japs’s attentions to this spike protein, instead of the genome inside the container.

  32. The furin cleavage site (12 nucleotides, thus four amino acids), with its “human” codons in SARS-CoV2, seems to be the principle adaptation to increasing transmission and thus toxicity. Interactions with the amiloride sensitive sodium channel, sharing an identical furin cleavage site, may explain much Covid toxicity, including effects on taste where the channels are known to be important.

    The mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna, most of what has been used in the US) employs the full length spike protein, including the furin cleavage site, along with stabilizing mutations to make the translated spike protein last much longer. One would expect that similar interaction with the amiloride sensitive sodium channel would occur, possibly contributing to adverse effects? Johnson & Johnson’s adenovirus vaccine has an inactivated furin cleavage site; while seemingly having a better non-specific protection against overall deaths in initial clinical trials than the mRNA vaccines, it had as much or more clotting potential.

    While high titers of antibodies are produced against the spike protein, the basis for the West’s approach to Covid vaccines, immunity to coronaviruses is generally NOT dependent on antibodies, with cellular mechanisms of immunity much more important (and much longer lasting than the 2 to 6 month spike protein antibodies. Singapore researchers showed that SARS cellular immunity was still present in those infected 16 years before). China’s more traditional killed virus approach was surprisingly less effective (some of that likely Western propaganda); given the toxicity of the spike protein, the most efficacious dose of the Sinovac and similar Eastern vaccines may have produced Covid-like toxicity and the doses reduced to be better tolerated. As with Western Covid vaccines, multiple injections weeks or months apart probably would overcome the lower efficacy and produce much better long-acting cellular immunity. Immunity is not Black White but a gradient; the goal is not to abolish all Covid symptoms (as the West’s obsession with cases) but to minimize hospitalizations and deaths.

    While the science is slowly advancing, producing better understanding of Covid and the Covid vaccines, the intentions of the agencies involved in the origins of SARS-CoV2 and the sometimes unusual mutations will be much more difficult to determine, unless there are troubled consciences or death-bed confessions. None want to be responsible for 6.5 million Covid deaths.

  33. Franz says:

    The real story started when the Stop World Hunger crowd actually succeeded.

    Since then the level of incontinent breeders has gone off the charts.

    Which means a truly LETHAL and worldwide disease will happen. Absolutely nothing else can happen in a world full of high-velocity travelers from everywhere and the human petri dish growing larger as our medical services get less and less competent.

    We aren’t all doomed. Find the hidden valley town and MOVE there.

  34. Ike says:

    The clincher in my mind is that the media are not interested in investigating the origins of Covid 19., only in obfuscating those origins. Who controls the media? Why the USA of course.
    Can you imagine the headlines if the Chinese were truly implicated in its creation.

  35. Thank you for your incredible series on Covid, and your theory may be accurate.

    However relying on and repeating the ‘deaths from covid statistics’ does not in my opinion give your articles more credibility. To the contrary.

    The excess deaths statistics, such as they are, can be interpreted in various ways that don’t support your assertions about deaths from Covid. To make a short non comprehensive list

    1) lockdowns created stress, stress destroys immunity, with lowered immunity, especially in the elderly, more died

    2) intentional institutional prevention of early treatment protocols for a flu or flu like respiratory infection led to more deaths

    3) the use of the favored institutional treatment drug, Remsdesivir, from Deep State Big Pharma actor Gilead, led to more deaths

    4) in the USA poor quality health care for the obese poor led to more deaths

    5) and now the vaxx itself is killing people

    Perhaps Mr. Unz you can modify your theory to include the points I’ve made above. Thus you can keep the part about covid being a USA bio warfare product, without pushing the ‘millions killed by covid’ meme. My pov of view and yours are not mutually exclusive.

    Also, why not deal with the fact that the head of the Chinese CDC was a very active participant in Event 201 and also a co author of the VERY FIRST scientific paper about Covid 19? How does that affect your theory?

    thanks for your work, even when we disagree I respect your hard work and appreciate your website immensely.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @Yee
  36. Backward says:

    2300 words to say that the virus was probably made in an American lab and that YouTube doesn’t allow discussion is a major waste of everyone’s time. Which, I suspect, is the true purpose of this site.
    And by the way, Unz attributes the deaths to a virus that may not even exist rather than to a poisonous jab that does exist. Sneaky.

  37. Anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Similarly, Google’s Youtube division is the world’s dominate video platform

    dominant

  38. Dumbo says:

    Enough, Ron!

    I am beginning to think that Mr. Unz is slowly going insane with this monomaniacal obsession.

    See, after two years of complaining about the stupid rules and stupid vaccine mandates, trying my best to avoid masks and vaccines and still somehow avoiding the disease, I finally managed to catch “COVID” a week ago (I still don’t know how – maybe at the post office?). I think I may still be “positive”.

    Result: a low fever the first three days, sore throat, very occasional cough, but that’s about it. The worse were back ache and body pains that didn’t let me sleep, but an aspirin solved that. Annoying, but hardly a “new Chernobyl”. Well, I never suffered with radiation effects, but I guess they are worse.

    So my recommendation to treat this “bioweapon” is: gargles with warm water mixed with baking soda/salt for the throat, and aspirin if you have pain.

    Now, why would any deranged neocon try to “destroy China and Iran” with a rebranded flu, not even realizing that (if it was really as contagious as a “bioweapon” must be) it would hardly be contained in those to countries and spread to all the world?

    Get this through your head, dude, “COVID”, if it was “created” at all, was created to sell vaccines (and secondarily, digital passes). That’s it! That’s the only reason.

    I am baffled that anyone, after two years of this obvious scam, can’t see it, when I and many others could see it already in February 2020.

  39. If Mr Unz’ hypothesis is correct, a couple of questions arise: (1) How did the US actors who masterminded the plot expect to avoid blame? (2) How did they know that the virus would be sufficiently virulent to have an impact on Iran, but not to wipe out 99% of the world’s population?

    I have a possible answer to (1). The research into Covid at the Wuhan Institute of Virology was a joint venture between the USA and China, with US Government money from NIH and NIAID channeled through the “Ecohealth Alliance” to the WIV.

    The US State Department reported in 2018 that there were problems with biosecurity at the WIV.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322

    If Mr Unz’ hypothesis is correct, the issues at WIV presented an opportunity to the US: it could finance work at WIV on a deadly virus, knowing that the lax biosecurity would allow the virus to escape. This approach has the immense advantage of giving the US plausible denial.

    Question (2) is more difficult to answer. Covid killed a number of elderly Iranian politicians; but they were quickly replaced without any obvious change in Iranian policy. If the virus had been introduced to Iran by a US attack, then the attack was a failure. More importantly, it would have been impossible to gauge the virulence of Covid without extensive human trials, for which there was not enough time; and so if we hypothesize that the virus was deliberately released, we must also believe that those responsible did not care whether their actions might kill most of the world’s population.

    I am inclined to believe that Covid originated in a laboratory in Wuhan through a collaborative project with the USA, but not that there was a deliberate plot to release it. However, somebody is working hard to suppress the “USA did it” theory. I always know when Mr Unz has written something new on the subject because the site appears to come under DDOS attack, being slow to load, and sometimes returning a Cloudflare error page.

    • Replies: @Pure Blood Deplorable
  40. JR Foley says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    The only country with direct experience using biological weapons is the USA. Now USA was NOT intelligent enough to make biological weapons. Therefore the USA imported an expert Shiro Ishii who had had first-hand experience with Unit 731 Harbin with good results in biological weapons and other esoteric methods of killing people —

    Dr Mengele would look like a “dimwitted” apprentice by comparison. Now Shiro Isshi was sent to Fort Dietrick following WWII and tasked with setting up the facility. Had USA been serious about human rights —democracy —freedom—this demented felon would have been executed on the spot —no trial necessary.

    Only 5 years later Shiro Isshi’s goods are being dropped over North Korea with the wording “Gift” and just a few months ago the United States of America had 35 Biological weapons labs in Western Ukraine.

    The Pot calling the Kettle –??

    Are the flags at half-mast at Fort Dietrick today? Shinzo Abe –the grandson of Kiishi who was Tojo’s right-hand man just went for a permanent Trip — Might is Right indeed comes full circle.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  41. Good on ya Ron,
    That’s well deserved recognition for your excellent work, website and dedication to freedom of thought and dialogue.
    10 out of 10 mate

  42. Enough of this Covid bullshit already. Who is making you write this drivel anyway ? You want to know where Covid came from? It came from someone’s imagination. Rule by pandemic is the name of the game. Next time they try and sell this crap they need to be told to fuck off. Write about something interesting.

  43. According to the best estimates of the World Health Organization, some fifteen million people have already died as a consequence, either from the disease or its indirect effects, while the Economist has estimated that “excess deaths” may be closer to twenty million.

    Given the sources why would I take any of these numbers seriously?

    • Agree: WingsofADove
  44. A thousand times greater than Chernobyl.

    Yes, if you’re dumb enough to believe the official propaganda about both events.

  45. Blissex says:

    «“Perhaps Covid was a natural virus and perhaps it accidentally leaked out of a Wuhan lab.”»

    Note that it is entirely possible that it was a natural virus, and was spread deliberately in Wuhan having been selected in a lab somewhere else. The options are:

    Type of virus: natural or designed.
    Source of virus: lab in Wuhan or elsewhere.
    Start of epidemic: natural or accident or deliberate.

    It is also entirely possible that the virus originally started spreading naturally, but then its potential was noticed and it was then spread deliberately in Wuhan, to hit a very major chinese economic node and related areas.

    «the two earliest major outbreaks occurred in China and Iran»

    And Italy, and the earliest samples containing the virus are also from Italy, from September 2019.
    This does not mean that it started in Italy: many italians are migrants and traders and travel a lot.
    The major outbreak of February 2020 in Italy was due to one of them coming back from Wuhan.

    https://www.lastampa.it/cronaca/2020/11/15/news/istituto-tumori-milano-covid-in-italia-gia-da-settembre-2019-1.39543356
    A machine translation says:

    The coronavirus was circulating silently in Italy as early as September 2019, well before not only the now-famous patient 1 on Feb. 21, but also before December, as indicated by the Istituto Superiore di Sanità’s study of wastewater in Milan and Turin. This is stated by research from the Tumor Institute of Milan and the University of Siena, which, in analyzing blood samples taken between September 2019 and March 2020 from participants in a lung cancer screening, found antibodies to SarsCov2 in 11.6 percent, including 14 percent as early as September. A confirmation that adds to others that have emerged in recent months that the coronavirus would have spread in Italy and around the world well before the official data released by China. […] Two peaks of positivity emerged for antibodies: the first between late September and the second-third week of October, the second in the second week of February. […] the study by Harvard Medical School in Boston, which–based on satellite images of parking lots at five hospitals in Wuhan and research on the Chinese browser Baidu–concluded that the new coronavirus had been circulating in China since August 2019.

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  46. Boll says:

    Vaccine damage and maltreatment aside: Past heavy flu seasons produced more hospitalisations and deaths in the US than Covid did. Covid hasn‘t been anymore but a mild flu season. Just a shift of diagnosis obviously as the flu was simply wiped out from the records. If this is the best, chinese laboratories are able to produce, no one should be worried.

    • Agree: Sisifo
  47. Emslander says:

    I’d like to know why you continue to protect Tony Fauci, Mr. Unz. He’s the obvious progenitor of the CV19 virus and he had a ready mechanism for its dispersal, the hundreds of labs he sponsored around the world.

    Your theory that Bolton or Pompeo were the instigators has too many functional gaps.

    Otherwise, I’m sure it WAS the US, probably in league with elements of the Chinese pharmaceutical community.

  48. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @theMann

    “According to the best estimates of the World Health Organization, some fifteen million people have already died as a consequence, either from the disease or its indirect effects, [emphasis added]

    Is there a reputable organisation that has broken down the numbers to show how many deaths were prevented by the lockdowns vs how many people died as a result of the social isolation and increased use of drugs and alcohol brought on by them?

    I should think it is high time that the authorities demonstrate the lockdowns worked rather than merely being a form of Medical Theatre that ended up hurting more people than they helped.

  49. dave b 2 says:

    I am a bit curious about the position of this site.

    It has been revealed that these ‘Doctor Strangelove’ people seemed to have
    believed that bat corona virus[s] existed and had the potential to naturally mutate [evolve] to infect humans .

    They artificially forced this ‘evolutionary’ process by ‘passaging’ ; using mice with ‘humanised’ lung tissue.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_passage

    The mind boggling stupid excuse for it was that they could learn how to deal with it before it evolved ‘naturally’.

    They were more than likely artificially splicing genes into it as well.

    The Point of contention?

    What was obvious from the start from two real examples eg the Diamond Princess and USS Theodore Roosevelt was that ‘it’ was not going to be a very serious problem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_Diamond_Princess

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_on_USS_Theodore_Roosevelt

    It was estimated from this data early on that the infection fatality rate would be at something like 0.15%, which turned out to be fairly accurate, and something like a once in 10 years nasty flu outbreak.

    eg

    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425/rr-31

    If 10 million people regularly dying every year of starvation is not a problem ‘worth’ addressing ;why is 20 million people near the end of there life dying a problem for the ruling class.

    A lot of them were probably murdered in hospitals and care homes by inappropriate medical interventions, and denial of appropriate ones, which makes much more sense as a way of dealing with ‘useless eaters’.

    If excess [lockdown and vaccine] deaths in the UK stay at the current level it won’t be long before they match ‘covid’ deaths.

  50. @HammerJack

    Hammered-Jack writes:

    please keep in mind that a significant portion of the readership here is also convinced that the moon landing was a hoax.

    The Unz readership is a cut above the average when it comes to critical thinking and objective analysis so they’re aware that UNMANNED Lunar landers from various nations have indeed reached the moon surface.

    But anyone with two brain cells to rub together who has taken the time to do the necessary research will be aware that NO MAN has ever walked on the moon.

    In fact, NO MAN HAS EVER GONE BEYOND LOW EARTH ORBIT.

    If you’re not in agreement with that ‘Hammered-Jack’ we forgive you seeing as you’re heavily inebriated – as your pseudonym would imply.

    Perhaps when you’ve reached a state of sobriety you’ll be in a position to make a clear headed appraisal.

    • LOL: Pop Warner
  51. @SafeNow

    So sorry, SafeNow, because I meant thanks so much! 👍

  52. Kali says:

    the best estimates of the World Health Organization, some fifteen million people have already died as a consequence, either from the disease or its indirect effects, while the Economist has estimated that “excess deaths” may be closer to twenty million.

    Oh, for crying out loud, Ron!
    Until and unless you develope a willingness to question this official narrative, to look seriously at what exactly those “indirect effects” of “the disease” could possibly be, as befits your status as the author of American Pravda, your credibility as a serious researcher will continue to deminish, as will your reputation as an honest man.

    There are huge questions that need to be explored – just within the brief quote above – as I am sure you are well aware, given your credentials and past writings.

    Broaden your focus, Ron. Answer, as well as you are able, those questions regarding the ACTUAL cause of deaths ascribed to “the desease”. Question the treatments and the rejection of safe and effective alternatives. Question the EUA “vaccines” and how many of those deads ascribed to “the disease” were actually caused by the shots of spike-inducing genetic/rna modifiers.

    Your reputation as a serious and honest man depends on it.

    With all due respect and with love,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @Rumpelstiltskin
  53. Kali says:
    @Kali

    PS. I’m pleased that your bio-warfare theory is gaining traction and reader/viewership. Truly.

    But it, unfortunately, only explores half of the covid question. And without the other half, its value is seriously limited.

  54. @HammerJack

    …please keep in mind that a significant portion of the readership here is also convinced that the moon landing was a hoax.

    Not me. I watched them on a black and white TV set.

  55. Thirdtwin says:
    @Blissex

    “As part of a new experiment to help the vast numbers of Chinese tourists heading to Italy, Chinese police are now being deployed on the streets of Milan and Rome…The move, which reflects China’s growing status as a global tourism superpower, is aimed at helping Italy’s more than three million yearly Chinese visitors feel safe.”—CNN, 2016

  56. BuelahMan says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Birds of a feather…

    Sachs was raised in Oak Park, a suburb of Detroit, Michigan, the son of Joan (née Abrams) and Theodore Sachs, a labor lawyer.[17] His family is Jewish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Sachs

  57. dave b 2 says:

    What might have interesting as a ‘control’, given the orientation of this site, would be an under vaccinated population , <5% , in a very densely populated area.

    To see if by early 2021 less that 1000 per 2 million had died with covid.

    Or within 60 days of a positive test before being bombed of shot at by the IDF.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/23/reluctance-and-distrust-defome-vaccine-attitudes-in-gaza

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8102047/

  58. @WingsofADove

    My pov of view and yours are not mutually exclusive.

    Mr. Unz has been stubbornly disagreeing for over a year. He’s bizarrely binary on this topic, apparently taking skepticism about the COVID shots as disrespect for or diminution of his theories about the provenance of COVID.

    It’s become a tiresome troll, insisting that people pick one or the other. Soon enough – maybe he already has – he’ll post some scolding, insulting threat to banish comments like yours. There’s also an evident need for attention at work, as he rererecycles his own articles and interviews, all nestled within each other like those Russian dolls.

    • Agree: Durruti, Towey
    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Ron Unz
  59. Jimmy1969 says:

    A great series of articles on this subject.Too bad there is no Pulitzer Price for something like this. I might add one other speculation to this topic: the American people do not want to believe that their government or some group within it could do something like this. If this story is true there is the usual deep state type national security establishment denial and all that stuff, along with political and ideological bias in the media….but the real issue is non belief by the public at large. Too horrible to contemplate. like a say it ain’t so Joe syndrome. I can explain one example: one day years ago I was up in Canada on a business trip and I was walking down the street and there was a big commotion that looked like a protest of some sort. There was this guy with a hard hat on and a megaphone carrying a cross of some sort. I looked closely and it was the Holocaust guy Ernst Zundel with a crowd of reporters around him. I said to myself this is it: I have to ask that guy a question. I waded through the crowd and started talking to him and I asked him why he does what he does when obviously most people dislike him for it, and he went on about telling the truth and all that, but his main message to me on that subject was: he could not accept and did not want to believe that the German people/government could have done what they were accused of.

  60. Dystopian says:
    @H. L. M

    I knew something was up when HCQ and Ivermectin were demonized before the disease ever showed up in the USA. In a just world the criminal actions of world governments and health care institutions that are responsible for the early demise of millions would be punished. I’m not holding my breath. Maybe if there is an investigation we will find out Ron is doing his best to obfuscate the culpability of the CCP in this crime.

  61. Ron, I trust you will approve of my posting a link to an ABC RN Big Ideas Podcast which highlights a couple of the kinds of misinformation we suffer from in the First World. I recommend listening from about minute 36 to 42 when you will get to the statement by the author/researcher/surgeon that 120,000 people were doing to have died in the US over the ten year period the particular drug was prescribed for arrhythmia after heart surgery because tests had not tested the right outcome. He also described how a determined use od FOI turned up proof that drug companies were withholding adverse test results from the FDA which eiuld have shown more harm than good done by drugs for, I think treating depression.
    I thought it was very much your kind of thing as I remembered your article on Vioxx.

    I’m listening to the “Why too much medical treatment is causing more harm than good” episode from “Big Ideas” , presented by Paul Barclay – https://abclisten.page.link/8FFuo6JJa7E15uBS8. Available now through the ABC listen App – http://bit.ly/ABCradioApp

  62. @mephisto

    I doubt Covid is done. When you look at US puppet-state Ukraine with all those US bioweapons labs, and then realize that unlike Poland which is 60% fully vaccinated, Ukraine is only 35% vaccinated against Covid (surely if the jabs were that important, wouldn’t most Ukrainians be vaccinated? They probably have better access to the Covid vaccines than any other country!)

    To be good carriers of the virus, people cannot be vaccinated. The Russians have already noted two genes which make Slavs more susceptible to death from Covid (Eastern Europe has 13 of the 15 countries with the highest Covid death rates). You can be sure CIA-controlled scientists are targeting different populations (The more homogeneous Han Chinese will probably be even easier. Possibly ongoing? Would explain China’s “obsession” with Covid.)

    Generally flu and most Covid strains accrue important mutations one at a time. Yet the alpha variant (from Kent, England; 23 mutations) and Omicron (from South Africa; 50 mutations), both leaped fully formed with major new mutations. Genetists who had been following the Covid “pedigrees” became silent. Several excuses with lots of hand-waving were presented. At the moment the authorities are claiming that an AIDS patient must have allowed the virus to accrue all these mutations over time. (It would be much easier to make such variants with lots of mutations in a lab.) If they were truly from AIDS patients, it would be easy (and interesting) to evaluate blood samples from the AIDS patients over time, to show when different mutations arose. More likely CIA (MOSSAD, M6) labs were trying to target different ethnicities enriched in certain gene types. While this could be done with most pathogens, SARS-CoV2 seems perfect for such manipulations.

    Additionally the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna), the bulk of vaccinations for Covid in the US, create a remarkably suboptimal “Original antigenic sin” immunity, based entirely on titers of Spike Protein antibodies, blocking neither infection nor transmission of the virus, and showing only a non-statistically significant 2.5-fold protection from Covid death in the original clinical trials (from which the FDA tried to block data release for 75 years.) Moreover, with most Covid victims being over age 80 globally, it is suspicious that young healthy people are being vaccinated, and insane that healthy children are being jabbed for a few months of protection at best (natural immunity which most Americans no doubt have, is much preferable if obtained before vaccinations, the infection immunities thus offering much better original antigenic sin than the “leaky” (failed) spike protein vaccines.

  63. profnasty says:

    Sorry, not sorry. Covid?
    In the words of the Great William Shatner, “I can’t get behind that. ”
    In S.Florida we’ve got old people up the ying yang. I never saw a sick person in my environs. Knew a few personally- no big deal.
    The first mitigating factor is the Great Reset. This is alive and active. Supply chain disruption, rigged elections in your face, Black fetish worship, War, inflation as weapon, etc, etc.
    Covid is only a media blitz, imho.
    Schwabian Hegemony. Davos skullduggery. There’s your problem. It is a nest full of vipers. Rout it out and most of your problems will be solved.

  64. Towey says:
    @theMann

    The COVID pandemic has achieved its objective of strengthening the dollar in relation to other currencies. The postponement of the collapse of the petrodollar financial system was the principal reason for the scam.
    The unimaginable consequence of a sudden implosion was the stick that the bankers used to persuade every single government to destroy their national economy through lockdowns and the closure of national fronteirs.
    The world population grew in 2020. There was no pandemic.

    • Agree: peterAUS
  65. Whether this is willful ignorance or malice in pursuit of shekels, Zion Ron proves once again with this tripe that his biggest fanboys are mouth-breathing retards who still can’t put two and two together to come up with anything greater than zero.

    So the psyop continues…

  66. profnasty says:
    @04398436986

    Agreed. When I need information on US Military competence and proficiency, I always turn to a US Military publication.

    We Will Prevail!

    [Note. After 1991 Russia is now Capitalist. USA, now Communist.
    So, Big Mil, who won the Cold War?]

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  67. Thirdtwin says:
    @JR Foley

    “.. Shinzo Abe –the grandson of Kiishi who was Tojo’s right-hand man…”

    Do you have a cite for this claim?

  68. Qcic says:

    Unambiguous COVID information is hard to find, so there is a lot of “could and might” in any COVID sleuthing. A summary follows based on my current “truth percentages” for some key points. The format is a simple statement followed by a percentage with 100%= True, 0% = False. Much of the information used to form this set of views was acquired at TUR. While I have a technical background, I know very little about biology and viruses. Your mileage may vary.

    COVID-19

    -Is a real disease (100%, i.e. a fact)

    -Caused by a virus (100%)

    -Virus was genetically modified by humans (90%)

    -Released intentionally (60% = “hunch”)

    -The organizations behind the release are above the national government level (60%)

    -Significantly increased US deaths due to COVID in 2020 (100%)

    -Government policies were instituted to greatly inflate COVID death numbers (100%)

    -Ambiguities in PCR and other tests were used to manipulate case and death numbers (100%)

    -Number of deaths actually due to COVID much lower than mainstream reports (90%)

    -Typical disease outcome is trivial, though some cases are like flu, while a small percentage are very life-threatening with an unusual disease course compared to normal respiratory illness (90%)

    -HCQ and Ivermectin are useful and life saving in many cases (90%)

    -HCQ and Ivermectin were misrepresented to support the rollout of vaccines (90%)

    -Widespread amateur-grade masking has no net public health benefit for this outbreak (90%)

    -The mRNA vaccines were widely known by experts in advance to be dangerous (90%)

    -The combination of EUA and draconian government bio-response powers was willfully misused to push the vaccines into use (100%)

    -The mRNA vaccines provide some actual benefit (even limited) against the disease (< 50%, I doubt it)

    US COVID death counts in 2020-22 include a majority of false counts (100%)

    US 2020 death counts do include some actual COVID deaths (100%)

    – US 2021-22 COVID death counts include many caused by vaccine effects (90%)

    Most of the more interesting COVID topics immediately suggest complex conspiracy theories and typically have truth percentages less than 50%.

  69. Mike Tre says:

    90% Comorbidity

    Average of death 73 years old.

    People under the age of 25% all but invulnerable to Kovid 19

    Kovid – an unremarkable respiratory virus that was a higher risk to ONLY old and or very sick people. But young people paid the biggest price with lockdowns and masks and forced vaccinations.

    The only conspiracy that Unz never discusses is the complete complicity of the medical field to promote and lie about this virus, as they attributed every possible death to Kovid (to include motorcycle crashes) in exchange for money.

    Unz reduces himself to slurring anyone who chooses not to receive the mRNA injection as a fanatic.

    Unz has no comment about thuggish police arresting parents playing in parks with their children and reckless judges taking children away from their parents over injections.

    Unz puts the fears and paranoia he shares with the rest of his elder generations ahead of the health and well being of the younger generations because he is afraid to die.

    Like so many other arrogant and narcissistic people who use the lie of global warming as a hammer to bash climate heretics, Unz cannot accept the fact that nature is a force that cannot be overcome by humanity, and therefor must invent and put faith in promoting ridiculous ideas that humans have more of an impact on the world than things like the sun, the moon, the oceans, or even behaviors and mutations of pathogens that are extremely difficult to merely identify, let alone observe, in that same way a camera crew can observe the behavior of a pride of lions.

    This kovid origins conspiracy is little more than a distraction from talking about how the global ruling class just managed to facilitate the largest transfer of wealth and power in human history.

    • Agree: Durruti, eah
  70. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:

    COVID’s economic impact has been grossly overstated. Since most of the dead consumed more than they produced, the pandemic’s net impact is far lower than the death tolls suggest. The relatively low economic toll allows people to be cavalier about the whole thing. To put it bluntly, codger’s lives are not enough of a priority nowadays.

    It’s not pretty, but it adds up.

    • Replies: @Realist
  71. KA says:

    Solidified mountain of lies is difficult to move . People shrug off at any attempt to make a dent . People soon even label the attempt as meaningless futile and unwarranted . Why try to push a mountain ! From this position , flows any discussion or probe as distraction , unrewarding and soon waste of time . Very soon this unproductive situation results in conflating any inquiry with conspiracy theory . But people do move piles of dirts and challenge lies, and prevent the liars from escaping the retribution. The criminal actors are small fish and poor rural protagonists.

    This is what British journalist is facing . Reminding him of the more recent downright lies by USA over Iraq ,Libya, Syria , Somalia,Sudan and Yemen and Iran would be met by derision , doubt and eventual attitude derived from entitlement – America can lie and hide , nothing wrong with that .
    Claiming it’s wrong is the conspiracy theory .

    This is what the American control over facts and over the analysis have done .

    These idiots can’t even raise a morsel of doubt when the entire field is filled with harvests of lies .

    I can liken it to the pagan acceptances of many misdeeds , rogue behaviors ,and foibles of the mountain of statutes of Gods with denial , awe and respect while rejecting and punishing similar behavior even when remotely suspected of .

  72. Anon[847] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre

    Exactly. And that money went to his fellow Jews, like Russia-looting Jeffrey Sachs.

    Remember: they have taken over “the commanding heights of the culture,” e.g. the Lancet, and inverted them, turning them into their tools.

    Don’t believe anything “elite experts” say now, because they are not experts but Jews who wrecked that class and are wearing its skinsuit.

    Everything they say is bullshit and it’s bad for you.

    • Replies: @eah
  73. Yee says:
    @WingsofADove

    why not deal with the fact that the head of the Chinese CDC was a very active participant in Event 201

    I’ve always suspected the Event 201 was held to “teach” the head of Chinese CDC how to handle the outbreak. If you can plan your enemy’s respond when you plan an attack, all the better.

    Although that part failed because the Chinese CDC was pushed aside as soon as a novel virus was comfirmed, the central government took over, which was highly unusual for governments to do so. If the handling was left to Chinese CDC, it’d very likely have gone as the Event 201 had predicted.

  74. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:

    Periodic plagues will always be with us, and as living, evolving microbes, they will always be selectively suited to the times and places they affect. Thus the current technologically advanced civilizations with their squared population pyramids and just-in-time systems get a plague that kills mainly elderly and is relatively mild for most others, but threatens the normal efficiency of operate-near-capacity health care.

    Though in this sense, we do ‘make our own plagues’, and though people are certainly afraid of them while they are underway, we nevertheless understand them ultimately as forces of nature, different from Frankenstein monsters of our own creation like Chernobyl, which seem to us to say something else.

    Murder vs suicide.

  75. For a detailed overview, with maps that show where the one hundred or so, reactor core fission products were deposited across Europe, read the book, Chernobyl written by Yablokov, V.B. and Alexey V. Nestereko..a REAL shocker. The ground-shine resulting from an atomic blast is next to nothing , in strict terms of environmental impact, when compared to reactor core isotopes that are never naturally present in the earths crust.
    This fact alone automatically translates into a lack of any medical research done to show the biological effects they have on flora or fauna. In the book, practically every exposed living thing subject to contamination was carefully described, tested then documented. This research is a scientific work of art, showing the almost inconceivable penetration of these radioactive particles into many different life cycles. Categorizing, those endless subtle and not so subtle genetic mutations- from the smallest soil micro-organism, to plants and animals. I finally understood the comment made by Dr Helen Caldicott, a prominent Australian Physician- quote, I’d never eat any food in Europe! I suppose we all tend to forget that fifty or even one hundred years (or more!) following events like Chernobyl or Fukushima, those biological effects persist in the environment.

    The horror of Uranium/Plutonium MOX type nuclear energy doesn’t stop there, attempts to harness them for peaceful purposes continue to fail when, according to the International Journal of Health Services the Fukushima disaster killed 14,000 Americans from fallout, mostly deposited in the state of Washington and contaminated a greater portion of Pacific Ocean. This will eventually cause a long term bio-concentration in fish, especially tuna. Fukushima’s fission products, again some never seen before in nature continue to wash up along the ”black sands” of San Fransisco’s shore line and elsewhere on the American Pacific coast. Humanity just can’t seem to break through the “stupidity barrier” when it comes down to properly assessing all the political, military and ecological ramifications of MOX commercial plants. It is an ongoing policy that deliberately suppresses the marketing of Thorium reactor cores. For example; China has a up and running Thorium reactor, it only requires an up scaling of the current (forgive the pun) size and mega wattage to replace Uranium/Plutonium cycles. Using Thorium will greatly reduce the possibility of manufacturing atomic weapons from reactor waste.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
  76. Iris says:
    @InnerCynic

    If the numbers are to be believed. We are talking about the biggest liars on the planet when we’re talking about the very incentivized rat bags who infest our government.

    Your cynicism is highly commendable.

    Here is some food for thought, which I found in The Lancet.
    The Lancet often published excellent scientific works which political consequences were far more important than whatever actions the useless UN was taking.

    From a study proving that the IMF-led “Shock Therapy” had caused the death of 10 million Russian men and decreased Russian life expectancy by 5 years, to another proving that the death toll from the War on Iraq was over a million Iraqi civilians in just over 40 months, The Lancet did stick to its intellectual standards over the years.

    The journal was the only Western outlet, of course, to publish a study proving that the traditional (non mRNA) Russian Sputnik Covid inactivated vaccine was highly efficient.

    Recently, The Lancet published a study on the Covid-related global excess mortality, so this is probably where the filthy MSM got their figures from.
    The authors have been transparent with their methods and their sources, it is an objective work that cannot be discarded. They assessed the global excess mortality and concluded that the death toll from Covid was most likely 18 millions, not the official 6 millions.

    They looked at figures from almost every country over the world, including those in Africa who were considered very mildly impacted by Covid. Here is the official excess mortality where Africa is very low on the scale, with a lot of green colour everywhere:

    But when the authors adjusted the official death toll to the excess mortality they had calculated, a very different picture emerged, where Africa’s official low excess mortality appears to be due to under-reporting and under testing.

    The study, in a way, slams the USA and Russia alike. Both countries have two things in common: they fare very badly in the total excess mortality, ranking respectively second and third. But they also both reported quite accurately their Covid deaths, so only show only minor gaps between official and calculated excess mortality figures.

    Although reported COVID-19 deaths between Jan 1, 2020, and Dec 31, 2021, totalled 5·94 million worldwide, we estimate that 18·2 million (95% uncertainty interval 17·1–19·6) people died worldwide because of the COVID-19 pandemic (as measured by excess mortality) over that period.

    https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(21)02796-3/fulltext

  77. We Rats says:
    @InnerCynic

    Just a note on a part of comment,

    – We are talking about the biggest liars on the planet when we’re talking about the very incentivized rat bags who infest our government. –

    Though agree with what it’s supposed to mean, it’s really time to use a different comparison talking about politic people instead of comparing them to us Rats. We’re not even around much unless you overrun places with your concrete cities or too many houses. If we make a little mess it’s not intended, and you can just make us leave.

    Compared to politic people lying or attempting to do things to you, lumping them in with us makes no sense. We can’t even do anything about them, just you can, so please compare them with something else such as poison snakes.

    Thanks,

    We Rats

  78. Durruti says:
    @Greta Handel

    It’s become a tiresome troll, insisting that people pick one or the other. Soon enough – maybe he already has – he’ll post some scolding, insulting threat to banish comments like yours. There’s also an evident need for attention at work, as he rererecycles his own articles and interviews, all nestled within each other like those Russian dolls.

    You’ve noticed!

  79. Realist says:
    @Anonymous

    COVID’s economic impact has been grossly overstated. Since most of the dead consumed more than they produced, the pandemic’s net impact is far lower than the death tolls suggest.

    It’s not about death…it’s about disruption.

  80. eah says:
    @Anon

    >Exactly. And that money went to his fellow Jews, like Russia-looting Jeffrey Sachs.

    link

    Hi everyone,

    Genocidal Jewjabber Albert Bourla has received the 2022 Genesis Prize:

    A Tribute to 2022 Genesis Prize Laureate Dr. Albert Bourla

    Bourla has donated the 1 million prize to the construction of a Holocaust museum in Thessaloniki, Greece. Jewjabbed deaths, then, honor Jewish myth of Jews as greatest victims!

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  81. Levtraro says:
    @Mike Tre

    Kovid – an unremarkable respiratory virus that was a higher risk to ONLY old and or very sick people.

    It is a remarkable virus because it looks as if it were engineered, as remarked in the paper by Harrison and Sachs in PNAS, although some of its less remarkable features have been found in bats in SE Asia recently.

    But young people paid the biggest price with lockdowns and masks and forced vaccinations.

    Nobody was forced to take the vaccines. I’m not vaccinated and I know many young people here in western Europe that avoided the mRNA substances that were approved in a rush with a hidden profit motivation. Stupid people, people that were justifiedly scared because of age or other health issues, or people which could not travel or work without the vaccine, got vaccinated. So a sizable proportion of people that got vaccinated chose to do so, voluntarily, while another large proportion were indirectly coerced.

    To me the issue of the origin of the virus is more interesting that the issue of vaccinations. Vaccinations in the western world can easily be explained by run-of-the-mill greed, incompetence and corruption and that is now the norm in the West, while the origin of the virus may involve a larger geopolitical struggle, it may quite possibly be a foolish and cowardly attempt to destroy a competitor by waging biowarfare without actually declaring war. It’s a line of enquiry well worth pursuing.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Mike Tre
  82. Thim says:

    Covid was going around in the U.S., Summer of 2019. Dump tried blaming the strange respiratory deaths on Vaping. The CDC instructed the doctors to just call it the flu. About that time Chinese researchers employed at some American and Canadian biolabs were rounded up and sent home.

    So ZOG and CCP had been working on it together. But how did it escape the American labs by Summer 2019? Seems like ZOG blamed the Chinese researchers.

    The Iranians simply used the Covid as cover for a purge. Few were actually dying from Covid, except the poor schmucks being murdered by the doctors in the hospitals using Fauci’s protocols, which are designed to kill the patient. Those Iranians did not die of Covid. They died because they opposed the trade deal with China, then under consideration.

    Keep plugging away. The bit about the Moderna patents is Gold. It deserves much attention.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  83. According to the best estimates of the World Health Organization, some fifteen million people have already died as a consequence, either from the disease or its indirect effects, while the Economist has estimated that “excess deaths” may be closer to twenty million.

    Instantly discounted, Ron. Daffy Duck sez…….

    You are The Man, the Major Domo, The Model of free an open speech and Dialogue. The prefix DI says it all.

  84. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Zachary Smith

    Are you saying ((Sachs)), one of the Harvard Boys who raped Russia (just like their ((Bolshevik)) forebears) is a ((Jewish)) chameleon who is again transitioning colors? That a faction of ((Jews)) is transitioning their Covid narrative to blame Trump and the neocons?

    But they’re all Zionists/((Jewish)) Supremacists/Holocaust Narrative Purveyors/ZOG Made Men, including Trump. How do they plan on explaining that?

    Oh, I get it. They’re just making gradual, subtle adjustments as the goyim plebes figure out more of the truth, to preserve ZOG credibility, but never getting to the whole truth, which is that they’re all anti-Christ monsters and organized sociopaths at war with the human race.

    Clever. But too cute by half.

    I wonder, does Ron Unz realize the Parasites are trying to steal his thunder? Does he think they’ll hold a ticker tape parade for him, rather than a ticker tape parade celebrating kosherites for “discovering” the “truth” of “right-wing” treachery, and consigning him to the “anti-Semite” dustbin of history?

    If, despite everything, Putin can’t help but appeal to ((Jewish)) power, why should Ron Unz be any different, begging for table scraps and a pat on the head?

    In the Age of Ignobility, everyone who’s anyone is doing it.

  85. In the immortal words of the universe’s greatest strategist…

    A journey greater than ten thousand miles begins by stepping off a cliff.

    Never trust a piano player who uses both hands to wave at the audience.

    – Joe Tzu

  86. I mean, seriously, what geniuses concocted this brilliant strategy to release a manmade bioweapon in the middle of a highly populated city and believe they would get away it? Really???

    This would have been declared the worst terrorist attack on a country(s) in the history of modern warfare had journalists stood their ground and exposed the corruption that is protecting and doing the dirty work for those despicable small hats calling all the shots.

    If this doesn’t convince you that (((Five Eyes))) is a global terrorist organization and the greatest threat to humanity since the extinction of dinosaurs 65 million years ago, then nothing will.

    Enough with the James Bond 007 bs, this is real.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  87. Durruti says:

    1. The ‘Vaccines appear to be doing the most killing.

    2. The Vaccines appear to be generating the most profit\$ for the Pharmaceutical Companies.

    3. The Lockdowns, Masks, Training/intimidating our citizens to accept their future as SLAVES, the Brainwashing, the disruption of our economy, appear to be the greatest damage inflicted.

    A. Accept your orders. Take your Poisons – er. Vaccine (without any listed ingredients), Shots.

    4. The actual existence of a Harvard-Corona-Covid-Epstein killer Virus is in doubt. Global population continues – upward. Apparently, millions of Flu victims & other deaths are being attributed to/labeled “killed by Covid.”

    A. Where are the Pharm Labs? Some are located in the USA.

    5. So called ‘Alternate Media‘ exist as an escape valve for those who are not fooled by the Mainstream Media. One may spend time there, and never arrive. Gatekeepers, Political Leaders who claim to serve their constituents, no place to lay your hat.

    6. No place like Home; but our Home is occupied.

    • Agree: Towey
  88. @Mike Tre

    Were the “vaccines” invented for the treatment of the bio-weapon? Or, are they the remaining half of a binary weapon? Unz has done a good job of establishing that COVID-19 was ideed a bio-weapon invented and deployed by the Empire of Lies. With the recent release of captured info from biowarfare labs in the Ukraine, Unz’s point has basically been proved.

    The large number of vaccine deaths, infertility and other serious issues, the massive falsifying of data by governments/big-pharma and the use of government force to a) inject experimental mRNA gene-therapy into children as young as 6 months; b) fire and disemploy those who decline the “vaccines” (unless you’re one of the cloud people); and c) denounce and suppress inexpensive treatments with out-of-patent medications like Ivermectin and HCQ raises serious questions about the exact relationship between the related issues of the pandemic and its treatment.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  89. eah says:
    @Levtraro

    >Nobody was forced to take the vaccines.

    Many university students were forced to accept the vaccine or else they could no longer matriculate, e.g. the entire University of California system adopted that policy (link) — anecdotally, it seemed to me the vast majority of post-secondary schools in the US took a similar stance (others had onerous testing requirements) — do they count as ‘young people’?

    Anyway, it’s not only about forced vaccination — it was being forced to wear a mask, locked down, excluded from school, even from contact with friends — in short, it was nearly impossible for them to experience a normal childhood.

    Why be so dumbly dishonest?

    • Agree: Towey, Durruti
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  90. ld says:

    Thank You Ron
    Thank You

  91. Kapyong says:
    @AClearEyeNovice

    Silence speaks a lot. Whether the silence is orchestrated or self-imposed, the phenomenon is scary. For it speaks of an information landscape that is not concerned about information, let alone truth.

    Indeed.
    Especially Ron Unz’s astonishing silence on the herd of elephants in the room, or rather stampeding all over the planet.

  92. There was no COVID pandemic. There was a coup d’etat by the globalist elite to deprive billions of people of their fundamental human rights, to wreck their small businesses and ruin the economy, and to force them to take a lethal injection. So please, can we hear less of this COVID bullshit.

    • Agree: Towey, H. L. M
    • Replies: @Towey
  93. Thim says:
    @Thirdtwin

    Thirdtwin, on Abe’s lineage, including the maternal grandfather Kiishi, who was Prime Minister from 1957 to 1960, and earlier was Tojo’s right hand man, try any reference. Even wikipedia has it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Thirdtwin
  94. @Thirdtwin

    Read the rest of the information in this link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi

    Nobusuke Kishi (岸 信介, Kishi Nobusuke, 13 November 1896 – 7 August 1987) was a Japanese bureaucrat and politician who was Prime Minister of Japan from 1957 to 1960. He was the maternal grandfather of Shinzo Abe, twice prime minister from 2006 to 2007 and 2012 to 2020.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi

    The Vice President of the United States, Richard Nixon introduced Kishi to Congress as an “honored guest who was not only a great leader of the free world, but also a loyal and great friend of the people of the United States”, apparently unaware or indifferent to the fact that Kishi had been one of the closest associates of General Tojo, hanged by the United States for war crimes in 1948.

  95. @Thim

    To be precise, SARS (Covid-1) was around since early 2000’s. Since SARS (Covid-1) originated in China, TPTB determined that it would be the perfect virus to return under SARS (Covid-19) to shake up the current global trade monopolies now under China’s domain, in addition, use it to undermine economies around the world who would even think or threaten to retaliate against the New World Order, aka GlobalHomo Reset.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/history-disease-outbreaks-vaccine-timeline/sars-mers

  96. anarchyst says:

    COVID-19 was the seasonal flu “repackaged as a “pandemic” for twofold reasons.
    #1…The re-election of President Trump was a continuing serious threat to the “new world order”. A way had to be found to derail the 2020 election. Finally, we had a president who was not afraid to use USA trade power to effect real change. What better way than to promote a “pandemic” which resulted in loosened voting rules, making vote fraud not only possible, but rampant.
    #2…The world depopulation scheme (scam) was put in place by “the powers that be” by engineering (actually redefining) a common annual flu virus as a “pandemic”. The major drug companies saw the possibility to make billions of shekels by going along with the scam utilizing poison “vaccine” jabs. The usual procedures for clinical trials were abandoned as these poisons were rushed into production. This is all by design, the “jabs” having a delayed effect, poisoning people slowly by killing off their immune systems. The next five years will be interesting–“jabbed” people are already dropping like flies, enough time elapsing between receiving the “jabs” and ultimate demise to deflect blame for deaths from the “vaccine” manufacturers. Of course, immunity for the drug purveyors also figures into the scheme (scam). Depopulation, indeed…
    If an engineered “virus” was released, it came from Fort Detrick, Maryland, not China.
    There was an added “advantage”…China could be blamed for the “release” of the virus and therefore demonized for political advantage.
    Those who are wise enough to avoid all of the COVID “jabs” will be the ones to “inherit the earth”. Already, it is becoming apparent that the “jabs” are the cause…

  97. Anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre

    We still don’t know the biology of Covid . The knowledge is evolving and increasing in breadth and width .It’s impact is because of the increase transmission , high infectivity , and unpredictable course among the young and vulnerability of the king . Obesity ,male sex, Blood group A , smoking , diabetes , and existing immunosuppressive make the illness deadly .

    The remarkable silence on researching the origin is due to the fact that US’s bio weapon programs will come under scrutiny and possible discussion on the MO of US . It also will expose the anthrax case of 2001 .

    Using the Covid scare , businesses have made a killing . Trillions have flowed to rich and ensuing inflation has been blamed on the few billions handed over to the unemployed .
    Covid also has given the stupid deplorable to Blaine China for unmitigated sufferings from a ‘non lethal Kung fu ‘virus .

    The morns deserved the results . They got it .

  98. Anon[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thim

    Was Tojo as good as was Patten , Marshal , Eisenhower?

    Japan ‘s aggression was rewarded by US when it had suited US . It is doing now again .
    Hope Japan learns that the glass ceiling on the murder and war is propped and hoisted by US and foisted on Japan . On the other side of the glass barrier is US .
    Japan May want to touch and smash .

    Tojo might get / could get born again .

  99. Mike Tre says:
    @Levtraro

    “Nobody was forced to take the vaccines.”

    Even among the most kovid devout, this lie is breathtakingly shameless. LOL All I can do is shake my head at such pungent horseshit.

    • Agree: JM, anarchyst, Agentinslacks
    • Replies: @Levtraro
  100. The covid virus has never been isolated. That’s why we were not given a conventional vaccine using a weak form of the virus.

    There is no covid 19. Monsters like fauci and gates made the story up and put a bioweapon in the phony vax to depopulate the planet. All the deaths will be blamed on covid not the vax.

    They could have killed half the people with a real pandemic but the elite knew that could kill them too. So they weaponized the vax and told the public it was safe. Needless to say none of the elite have been vaxed though they all say they were.

    • Agree: Durruti
  101. Ron Unz says:
    @Greta Handel

    It’s become a tiresome troll, insisting that people pick one or the other. Soon enough – maybe he already has – he’ll post some scolding, insulting threat to banish comments like yours. There’s also an evident need for attention at work, as he rererecycles his own articles and interviews, all nestled within each other like those Russian dolls.

    Only some of that criticism is fair. The problem is that I’m still virtually alone in making the Covid/biowarfare case, and I worked out all the basic analysis and factual details in my 2020 and 2021 articles, so quoting a few paragraphs seems the best approach.

    I’d admit that these current columns of mine are sometimes somewhat repetitive, but people may see one who had missed most of the others, and it’s not like the other columnists or the MSM are covering the story. For example, Sachs’ May blockbuster was ignored except for one piece in the Intercept and even after that Sachs clip went super-viral on Twitter, only the Daily Mail has covered it.

    If virtually no other MSM or alt-media outlet is willing to mention Sachs’ shocking revelations, it’s reasonable for me to run two or three columns promoting them. I really would argue that the story is roughly 1000x larger than Chernobyl.

    On those other issues, I agree with some and strongly disagree with others. But there are dozens or hundreds of anti-Vaxxers and Flu Hoaxers promoting all those issues all across the Internet, so why should I bother talking about them? Especially since I’m not very interested and haven’t bothered investigating the details.

  102. Wild Man says:

    Mr. Unz: A few things, about the content of your article, that should be better, properly, contextualized:

    First, on this passage of your article:

    “In 1986 the globally-dominant Western media ensured that the Chernobyl disaster came to symbolize Soviet incompetence and dishonesty, and used that incident to inflict a crippling and perhaps ultimately fatal blow upon the tottering Soviet Empire. But today, the West still totally dominates global media, so as yet the American Empire has suffered no serious consequences for its likely role in the vastly greater Covid disaster. However, that may now be starting to change.”

    The thing is, the Chernobyl disaster did feature human error that looks, to anyone who studied that angle, to be grossly incompetent (followed-up by some attempted cover-up regime-dishonesty). Now, I’m not saying that our faux-west globalizing system is not also vastly incompetent. I believe it is, as well (but to my mind, actually more-so flavored as ‘malfeasant’ instead of just straight-up ‘incompetent’). There was plenty of reason to believe that Chernobyl was emblematic of some kind of gross incompetency, … and that is gonna really come down to two competing narratives here, …. either it was the perversion of the Soviet system that allowed this, or, it was just Slavs being Slavs (i.e. – the Slavic tendency towards, ‘not my job-ism, because the issue at hand is somebody else’s responsibility’). Truth be told, it is probably both (every group has their peccadilloes, ….. I am not knocking the Slavs as substandard, because all-in-all they are not substandard, …. but I am saying that the perversion of the Soviet system did in fact, fit hand in glove, with this Slavic tendency).

    OK, …. now on your insinuation that something of much, much greater level of incompetency (or in this case is the better word – ‘malfeasance’?), is at play here, with respect to the death and destruction that has followed the emergence of sars-cov-2. Of course, we all, superficially, would agree with you, that the level of death and destruction that has followed the emergence of sars-cov-2 features gross levels of faux-west incompetency (or in this case is the better word – ‘malfeasance’?). Westerners, (those living in the western jurisdictions) also have their own tendency-peccadilloes, as well, …. instead of the tendency towards, seeing the reality of the systemic incompetency, Slavic-style, and personally resolving this by way of the Slavic tendency towards ‘not my job-ism, because the issue at hand is somebody else’s responsibility’, ….instead have a tendency towards whitewashing the incompetency (or in this case is the better word – ‘malfeasance’?) in the first place (and I believe Jewish subversion upon westernism is a huge factor with respect to holding this whitewashing tendency in place).

    OK, ….if you are with me so far, then, the next order of business (as to better, properly, contextualize your claim that – “so as yet the American Empire has suffered no serious consequences for its likely role in the vastly greater Covid disaster”) is to realize that incompetency is incompetency, and it will wreak havoc wherever it prevails, and the same level of incompetency within one venue may well breed 1000x the size of the disaster, as compared to this same level of incompetency within another venue. I am sure you agree with this (because it as an obvious point). So what I am saying is ….. be more careful with your insinuations. Superficially, many readers may understand that you are making it out that the American Empire (and as an aside here, it is high time you call the spade, a spade already, … what you feature as the ‘American Empire’ is just one of the biggest cogs in the ‘faux-west-globalization’, ….. it is rather misleading to continually fail to call this spade, a spade), is vastly more incompetent than even the prior Soviet system. I know you did not say that specifically (rather you specifically said that the disaster downstream of the incompetency was 1000x worse sars-cov-2-wise, than Chernobyl-wise), but please do realize, that one could make the argument that the Chernobyl disaster was in fact, on par with the level of death and destruction that occurred after the emergence of sars-cov-2, or perhaps even well beyond that, if one is willing to examine downstream consequences of the the Chernobyl disaster, …..i.e. – a huge dial-back on the emergence of nuclear power, worldwide, as a fairly carbon-free energy source, was one of the outcomes of the Chernobyl disaster, and pairing that with the incompetencies, (or perhaps ‘malfeasance’ is the better descriptor here) around the climate change science fake-outs, looks like is going to cause a huge spike in death and destruction, worldwide, as we have all been caught flatfooted, globally, on the coming dearth of the production of economical units of energy, as long as the climate change science fake-outs persist. As such, no matter how you look at it, …. incompetency is incompetency …… but the disasters that such incompetency engenders can be of completely different scales of destruction, and as well, sometimes it is not too easy to grok what that final level of destruction, due to downstream consequences, will be.

    Alright, if you are still with me so far, then what to make of this passage of your article:

    “Chernobyl ranked as one of the most important events of the late twentieth century, but these comparative statistics suggest that the global Covid epidemic has been up to a thousand-fold greater in its destructive social impact.”

    As a reader, we may superficially agree with you on this point, but upon just a tiny bit more critical analysis, your point probably does not stand, as is therefore obfuscatory (i.e. – perhaps both disasters are on par, with respect to destructive social impact, as measured within the fullness of time).

    And then on this passage of your article:

    “Perhaps our gigantic current disaster was just a natural calamity brought about by the random mutation or recombination of an existing animal virus. If many millions died from a series of massive earthquakes or volcano eruptions, the political consequences might be minor. But there is considerable evidence that in this case, a human hand was responsible.”

    Very good point on the: – “If many millions died from a series of massive earthquakes or volcano eruptions, the political consequences might be minor”. Yes, as humans, we make moral judgments, upon other humans, as based on an analysis of incompetency and malfeasance. If the disaster, was truly outside of the human control grid of ‘foreseen future circumstances’, and as such are deemed ‘unforeseen future circumstances’, we humans, then tend to make the judgement, that what this means, is that though it may be a matter of general human incompetency in the face of God’s Infinite Abstractive Power, we should take it as a lesson, to correct and do better next time, and not as a sign that we are so grossly without any power of our own (a superstitious stance), that we are doomed. Alternatively, if the disaster in question, does feature an origin spawned by way of ‘foreseen future circumstances’, ….. then yes, this is then judged as either human incompetency or malfeasance.

    So, on this passage of your article:

    “I have no doubt that Becker was being entirely sincere, and his statements on that specialized historical question were simply due to his acceptance of the conventional media narrative rather than any deliberate deception. But suppose we now apply his own standard. Once we recognize that China had been truthful in the past, while America had both employed illegal bioweapons and then lied about their use, these disturbing facts must inform our own analysis of the Covid outbreak.

    Perhaps Covid was a natural virus and perhaps it accidentally leaked out of a Wuhan lab. But there is also a third logical possibility, that it was deliberately released in one of China’s largest cities as a planned biowarfare attack. The Covid outbreak occurred at the height of China’s ongoing international conflict with America, so elements of our own hostile government would be the obvious suspects. None of the three books seemed to recognize the existence of this hypothetical possibility even merely to dismiss it, an enormous blind spot that may or may not be due to the constraints of the American publishing industry.”

    OK, ….. this is where your overall narrative truly starts to go wonky. I hope the above-provided critical analysis of the earlier portions of your article, makes it clear that you are hereby playing the good ole shell game (look here, not there) in this section of your article. You are making it out like the CCP should be absolved for sitting on their hands so to speak, with respect to letting the rest of the world know what they must know about sars-cov-2 origins, … Dr. Shi’s sealed research records and such, (I suppose you kneejerk towards that insinuation because the CCP was not rewarded, by the world, for truthfulness in the face of western lies, in the Korean War era). Your statement – “The Covid outbreak occurred at the height of China’s ongoing international conflict with America, so elements of our own hostile government would be the obvious suspects” is only partially accurate, because you are glossing over CCP’s behavior in this era (despite the probable truthfulness, about western malfeasance, bioweapons-wise, in the Korean War era). It is most likely true that this bioweapon topic has been a reality of western malfeasance, going all the way back to even well prior to the Korean War era (i.e. – you won’t get any argument against that, from me, I largely agree). But these realities about western malfeasance does not absolve the CCP for their own obfuscations in this regards, in this era.

    OK, ….. then on to this passage of your article:

    “At the time these books and the review appeared, the possibility that the Covid virus had an American origin had remained totally unmentionable in the Western media, but in the last few weeks this situation has suddenly changed.”

    Yes, … I think we all agree here, that though the western legacy media obfuscates in this regards, here among the readership at the UR, we all do clearly see that, this your particular statement, is accurate. The readership of the UR, have long known now, about the deep links between the goings-on within western-virology-circles, and China-based-virology-circles, general-coronavirus-wise, sars-cov-1-wise, bat-coronavirus-wise, and lab-engineered gain-of-function-wise.

    Then, on this passage of your article:

    “So courtesy of Sachs, a public debate has now begun on whether Covid came from an American lab. But the two earliest major outbreaks occurred in China and Iran, striking the two countries in the world most subject to American hostility, surely a rather implausible result from an accidental release.”

    What you fail to mention here (which you always fail to mention), is that because of all the deep links between the goings-on within western-virology-circles, and China-based-virology-circles, on the specific virological topic at hand (sars-cov-2) that this implicates the CCP as well (perhaps only after the fact, perhaps as either a secondary culprit, or perhaps as a reactionary malfeasance’ type of culprit).

    On this passage of your comment:

    “Over the last two years I have been virtually alone in advocating this controversial hypothesis, which has been almost totally excluded from both the mainstream and the alternative media.”

    No, …. unless you view yourself as legacy media, and are also completely green (unknowing) with respect to alternative media. Because the alternative news media and commentary is absolutely filled with people that see precisely what I have outlined above (which is a better take upon the facts, as we now know them to be, than your narrower take, for which I don’t believe you have nearly enough evidence to contend that your narrower take better explains these facts, quite the opposite actually).

    Look Mr.Unz, ….. I know you don’t like any mention of the pathogenic links between sars-cov-2-spike and the western experimental vaxx-spike, but really, you should drop that already, because by way of your continually practicing that obfuscation, you are thereby obfuscating what the alternative news media and commentary maintains, in this regards. This is what the alternative news media and commentary maintains in this regards (as quoted from a comment I left within the comment section of you last article):

    The virus was lab-engineered. It is a bioweapon (i.e. – even if this was an accidental release, the downstream actions by officials everywhere, including in China, indicate that, once it was released, even accidentally, it was used as bioweapon nevertheless, because all these officials lied about it). The virus condition was used to force the vaxx program (as substantiated by the Covid Officialdom matrix of lies). The vaxx program features a pathogenic delivery mechanism (nanolipid, as a pathogenic delivery mechanism, because it allows for vascular involvement), that allows for new and more systemic routes of spike-pathogenesis. Look, I am not gonna get on my high-horse, (like Mr. Unz) and claim this as my theory for which I should be glorified, because this is just all so obvious. This is the people’s theory. And it is true.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  103. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    As for Chernobyl, I remain convinced that it was sabotage, as no other Soviet reactors of that type have suffered such calamities, and the behaviour of certain individuals involved was criminally reckless.

    Quite possible. It seems particularly suspicious that the reactor blew up during testing, supposedly to increase safety. It would not be too difficult for a well-equipped secret service to have testing procedures implemented such as to allow for disastrous “errors” to occur.

    Changing testing protocols rather than regular operating protocols is presumably easier as there would be fewer institutional safeguards and resistance in place.

    • Replies: @Anymike
    , @anarchyst
  104. Covid-19 does not exist, it is an illusion created to create hysteria and fear in the proles and drive them to taking the genocide MRNA shots, this is a depopulation agenda and the sad part of this, is that it is working, people are dying of the shots, this is the biggest scam and psyop and genocide operation in the history of the world.

    • Agree: H. L. M, Durruti
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  105. @Judar

    This article is about the origin of Covid 19 and not about the fight against it. Don’t go off tangent.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  106. @theMann

    3. The mass deaths inflicted by the “vaccine”, which total continues to relentlessly rise

    Why would you give a solitary shit about the death toll among people who failed a #OneQuestionIQTest? Every mudblood death is a mitzvah.

    Not everyone has the cognitive wherewithal to survive the everyday vicissitudes of life.

    Some people are stupid enough to fall off cliffs while trying to get an Instagram selfie that they hope will get them noticed; some people die from asphyxiation while participating in the TikTok ‘blackout challenge’; some people allowed one of the most criminally-corrupt companies in the history of medicine to inject untested Pharma-jizz into their arms.

    The common thread: they were stupid enough to deliberately do a thing that increases their likelihood of early death.

    I say “Let ’em go” – in fact I celebrate their deaths; their miscarriages; and their reduced fertility.

    Sailer sits in his Boomer closet fretting about African hordes – basically a pretty weak reframing of Paul Erlich’s ludicrous “Population Bomb” drivel, which Julian Simon tore apart 40 years ago.

    I’m far more concerned about the flabby-armed fuckwits already waddling around like retarded bipedal walrus. I don’t give a shit about race – except to the extent that race and cognition seem to be linked in profound ways. I’m happy with any turn of events that takes stupid people off the board.

    The stupid shit these retards do is not the same as having a ‘brain fade’ and – say – inadvertently walking off a subway platform: that sort of thing can happen to people who are distracted, or tired, or whatever. That sort of thing can happen to anyone (although again… the smarter the individual, the less likely).

    No, these fucktards do stupid shit deliberately.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    It is a waste of calories to invest emotional energy in people who remember to breathe by accident.

  107. anastasia says:

    Wuhan is financed by America, so one could say it came out of an American lab and still mean Wuhan.
    You could say it came out of an American lab and mean it came out of Ukraine.
    And I wonder how many other labs we either finance or control of in the rest of the world.
    If it resembles the number of military installations we have all over the world (more than 800), and if people truly believe that the US has control of all NATO countries and everywhere else we have military installations, than one can say everything comes from the US.

    The only person calling it the China Virus is Trump. Everyone else is not saying that. If it is the US, why hasn’t China found out what Unz found out, and why don’t they blame the US? Only Iran is blaming us, not China? They are just using their common sense. But why isn’t China? The military was there shortly before the virus broke out. Aren’t they even suspicious?

    They’re all in it together. There is no way with all those “forums” they had about coronoviruses, i.e. The Economic Forum, Crimson Contagion by the Military, Homeland Security, and a host of others, that they didn’t know it was coming, and coming soon. They only way they could know that is if they did it.

    Something really fishy about the “relationship” between China and the US. Really fishy, especially as it concerns the US position on China.

    There is no way it was a “mistake” that the US and all of Europe suffered the most cases, but so “little” in all other countries, even China. Africa had virtually none. Take a look at this list. China with how many billions of people, and how many got the virus and died from it? And they try to tell us it was because of their “efficient” lockdowns? They put up those temporary hospitals that no one used, almost as fast as they took them down. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/
    Not that I believe any of it. Why would I believe proven liars about so many very significant facts as it concerns our country and foreign policy.

    Neither should Unz. These statistics are unreliable. One can just as easily say that most people in 2020 died because of the treatment, and in the next year in 2021 because of the vaccine.

    • Replies: @JM
  108. @04398436986

    Note that the article appeared in a publication not given to shameless attention seeking conspiracy peddling crackpots.

    No, it appeared in a publication that is part tin-eared wank mag, and part marketing materials – funded by the US Death Machine. (What’s Air Force Mag’s view of the F35?)

    I take it your view regarding the Pfizer Magic Jizz is similarly informed by TheScience™ (as personified by America’s Mengele – PuppyKiller Fauci, who now has PAIDS*).

    [*]: PAIDS: Pfizer-Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. Fauci’s had sequential symptomatic SARS-Cov-2 infections that have lasted a month, despite being quadruple-jabbed and having taken a course of paxlovid.

    The ‘normal’ course of symptomatic CIVD19 for an 81 year old of normal bodyweight with no comorbidities, has an expected length of 5 days from detection to clearance.

    • Agree: JM
  109. @CelestiaQuesta

    Those interested in what the Russian found (so far) in the US-funded bioweapons facilities, would be well-served to pay attention to what the Russian MoD has published on the matter.

    The Russian Ministry of Defence issued “Briefing on the results of analysing documents related to the military-biological activity of the USA in Ukraine” on July 7 2022 on its Telegram channel.

    See, for instance:
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2627 (link to briefing and documents)
    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2628 (another link to documents)
    … and the 4 or 5 subsequent (i.e., up to /2632 ).

    It won’t change many minds in the Empire of Lies – in general the livestock in the Empire of Lies does not forage for information, but gets it from gavage (like a goose having its liver fattened by force-feeding, so that bourgeois sophisticates can have foie gras).

  110. @Wild Man

    I believe it is, as well (but to my mind, actually more-so flavored as ‘malfeasant’ instead of just straight-up ‘incompetent’). There was plenty of reason to believe that Chernobyl was emblematic of some kind of gross incompetency, … and that is gonna really come down to two competing narratives here, …. either it was the perversion of the Soviet system that allowed this, or, it was just Slavs being Slavs (i.e. – the Slavic tendency towards, ‘not my job-ism, because the issue at hand is somebody else’s responsibility’). Truth be told, it is probably both (every group has their peccadilloes, ….. I am not knocking the Slavs as substandard, because all-in-all they are not substandard, …. but I am saying that the perversion of the Soviet system did in fact, fit hand in glove, with this Slavic tendency).

    Just like fighter jets jettison metallic chaff to throw off missiles, you are doing something similar.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  111. anastasia says:

    This so-called “attack” on China and Iran may have meant only to confuse the issue. The real change they want to see happen is in America and in Europe. In my opinion, those were the real targets.

  112. @Ron Unz

    Nah bro, another ziocon rat, Bannon, also spouts this horseshit. Imagine that, a couple gatekeeping jews …

    • Agree: Not Important
  113. peterAUS says:
    @Dumbo

    I am baffled that anyone, after two years of this obvious scam, can’t see it, when I and many others could see it already in February 2020.

    Well…maybe you should work on stopping being baffled.
    The people who’ve been pushing all this aren’t baffled at all.

    The hard reality is that most of the populace believe it and, worse, most of the supposed intellectual leadership on the “alternative” believes that too. Obviously.

    Understanding that “why” could be the first step in trying to do something about the coming troubles.
    They are, actually, just starting.

    BTW, as expected, a lot of NPCs in this comment thread. But, surprisingly, actually, there ARE also a lot of people who do understand the game. Not bad….

  114. JM says:
    @Zachary Smith

    This is a failed attempt at rehabilitation of a mega criminal, devoid of credibility. It’s not even his field of expertise.

  115. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    (((Unz))) Pretending Corona Is Real & Joo Deth Jabz R Not The Problem =))

    Fake ‘click bait’ title = “Nuclear Buffoon: Jews Select Politicians for Compliance, Not Competence

    = When ‘scanning’ articles, always scroll 2 the end if it’s a (((Propaganda))) site or ‘joo material’ like ‘written by (((Unz)))’ …

    “The absolutely unmentionable subtext of the current discussion is the obvious possibility that the Covid virus was created in an American lab and then deliberately deployed against China and Iran just as the Iranian government had claimed at the time, eventually leaking back and devastating America and the rest of the West.”

    = (((Unz))) trying 2 diflect attention away from the (((Kill \$hots))) & pretend ‘jooz just made a mistake while trying 2 save the world from the horrible ‘white plague’ designed by ‘evil whitey’ & their ‘white science labs’. Get a grip! (((JabMurder))) Updates! ~> https://justpaste.it/367w8

    Everybody always knew ‘corona’ was just regular seasonal colds & flus (((Rebranded))), & the ‘left’ just PRETENDS 2 think it is ‘dangerous’ as an excuse 2 (((KILLWHITEY!))) behind (((Face Diapers))) with (((Deth Jabz))) & infinity (((Mandates))).

    • Agree: Not Important
    • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  116. Wild Man says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    Look, this article, if it was not somewhat obfuscatory, should have been about the origins of sars-cov-2, as probably human in origination, which then automatically implicates the western experimental vaxxes, because of the pathogenic link, spike-wise, between the virus and these particular vaxxes. Mr. Unz is the one that is going off on an (obfuscatory to my mind) tangent.

    Same goes for you if you agree with this Unz-obfuscation (except, in your case, that makes you a probable dupe).

    See my comment #103 above, which hopefully, will finally allow you to un-dupe yourself.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  117. Anymike says:
    @Anonymous

    A thought is that the Soviets were conducting some kind of secret experiment, presumably military related, and were pushing the reactor beyond its design limits. Has been suggested, but not proven.

  118. @H. L. M

    Exactly….and one can not trust Jeffry Sachs for anything other than promoting theft and fraud as he promoted against Russia.

    A said ‘virus’ that has never been isolated other than mocked up with computer models to match the preplanned mRNA tax sequences.

    This is not to say that the US is involved in bioweapons and other weapons of mass destruction…remember the Anthrax letters…

  119. JM says:
    @anastasia

    Despite the information overload, yours is roughly my ‘assessment’ too.

    Particularly this:

    They’re all in it together. There is no way with all those “forums” they had about coronoviruses, i.e. The Economic Forum, Crimson Contagion by the Military, Homeland Security, and a host of others, that they didn’t know it was coming, and coming soon. They only way they could know that is if they did it.

    Something really fishy about the “relationship” between China and the US. Really fishy, especially as it concerns the US position on China.

  120. Chebyshev says:
    @AClearEyeNovice

    Ron’s a fearless genius. Without his work, we would never have learned how rogue government operatives launched an unprovoked biological attack on China that backfired and ended up killing a million Americans.

  121. Miro23 says:

    The West seems to be having problems with blowback.

    The neo-con/CIA Covid biowarfare attack on China was supposed to stay in China and wreck the Chinese economy. In fact it spread to the West. And in the event the Chinese handled the outbreak much more professionally. It only served to wreck Western economies.

    Similarly with the neo-con/CIA regime change coup in Ukraine. It was supposed to Regime Change Russia with the “ruble as rubble”. Result that the Russians are more unified than ever. Russia’s currency and exports are doing fine while Europe is a dead panic with out of control energy prices/ inflation and unaffordable debt.

    There are some interesting linkages between the two.

    The principal Kagan/Nuland target is Russia (utilizing the Ukraine coup) but the WEF/Davos (Kissinger and his financial elite) are now saying that there should be a peace agreement in Ukraine and a renewed focus on China The last thing that Kagan/Nuland want is a peace agreement in Ukraine. They’re in an existential battle against Russia not China.

    So betrayed Kagan/Nuland likely decide to mess up the WEF/Davos “Wuhan source of the Covid” story and get the focus back on Ukraine/Russia. The west can’t fight Russia and China at the same time.

    Since the neo-cons pretty much control the US media, then they get their agent Jeffrey Sachs to spring the big surprise about a US bio-weapons lab origin for Covid, get the focus off China, and hang the WEF/Davos crowd out to dry.

    However it doesn’t seem to be a success. Western public opinion has been so propagandized that they don’t have a clue what is happening. For example, top comments on the Daily Mail run Jeffrey Sachs article:

    “Check payments to his bank accounts” 2578 up , 276 down

    “Evidence” 1375 up, 65 down

    “I wonder how much he got paid?” 1201 up, 85 down

    “Considering his past ardent denial of crimes and repression against the Uyghurs, Xinjiang crimes against humanity, I am surprised that anyone listens to this guy anymore.” 1206 up, 48 down

    “Sure that makes sense……an American lab mess up and released the virus but THEN the virus took the red eye flight to Wuhan the globally accepted ground zero location for the pandemic. Sure that makes sense……wonder how much China paid him or what they have on him.” 839 up, 66 down

    Etc. etc.

  122. @Iris

    The Lancet often published excellent scientific works

    That might have been the case at some stage, but it’s not anymore.

    The Lancet published the Surgisphere ‘hit piece’ on Hydroxychloroquine (i.e., Mehra at al. (202o) Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis).

    That piece of entirely-fabricated shit was cited 1496 times – and was literally shouted from the media rooftops – before its 100% corrupt, fabricated nature was exposed and Lancet was forced to retract.


    The Surgisphere piece was specifically generated to undermine the case for safe, early, inexpensive therapeutic interventions for the US’s Fauci-funded bioweapon.

    The Lancet also allowed an editorial that added to the anti-HCQ dogpile, to be retracted and replaced with a less-obviously-compromised version.

    The New England Journal of Medicine participated in the same fraud.

    I hold my breath anytime I make reference to anything from the NEJM or the Lancet – and it’s not as if we haven’t had a ‘heads up’ in the past about miscreancy in medical research from people who were in a position to be intimately familiar with the goings-on at these two publications in particular.

    “It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as editor of The New England Journal of Medicine
    – Angell, M (2009) Drug Companies & Doctors: A Story of Corruption, New York Review of Books, Jan 15 2009

    “The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness”
    – Horton, R (2015) What is medicine’s 5 sigma?, The Lancet, Vol 385 (April 11, 2015) p1380

    • Agree: thotmonger
    • Thanks: JM
    • Replies: @Iris
  123. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    Ron’s still selling, anyone still buying?

    How many boosters you up to now, Ron?

  124. TKK says:
    @H. L. M

    In my second legal job, I look over thousands of documents. A few months ago, I found invoices dated July 2020 unrelated to my assignment in a big group of policy documents. I was going to bulk code them as Non Relevant and then something caught my eye.

    Invoices from a Big Tech firm…. think Cloud Solutions, Publicly Traded, Military Contracts….where they had ordered human temperature sensory alarms. In July 2020. This is all I can say.

    These were covert sensors that took employee’s temperatures as they were in the workplace. Somewhere, the readings were monitored and if someone had a body temp of over 99.5, “someone” was notified. You might amble to the break room for a Snickers or a coffee, and your body temp was being scanned and collated and…tracked.

    Why? What did they know? Mighty fishy. Hundreds of thousands were spent on these sensors. July 2020.

  125. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    On this passage of your comment:

    “On those other issues, I agree with some and strongly disagree with others. But there are dozens or hundreds of anti-Vaxxers and Flu Hoaxers promoting all those issues all across the Internet, so why should I bother talking about them? Especially since I’m not very interested and haven’t bothered investigating the details.”

    No Mr. Unz, …. you are misrepresenting. You did engage quite a darn bit with the many many people who read here, who were western-experimental-vaxx-hestitant (that which you disparagingly call ‘anti-vaxxers’, …. ‘disparagingly’ because you have been careful to be obnoxiously dismissive, rhetoric-wise, towards said ‘anti-vaxxers’), within many many previous article comment threads on that topic. You can’t now pretend that you didn’t ‘read’. And if you actually just ran-off on your mouth, disparagingly-wise, without ‘reading’ (which of course, is not what happened) then, it is just too funny that you then didn’t take your own advise and ‘read’ a thing or two (i.e. – you are always disparaging the anti-vaxxers, as making stupid points, because they didn’t ‘read’, when you have absolutely no clue on that, but say it anyways).

    This is just too much at this point. Man-up and admit what you have done. You read a whole lot of what I and others of the western-experimental-vaxx-hesitant had to say, …. of course we know this, because you did engage in point/counterpoint arguments, within these other vaxx-hesitant threads, ….. but often you conflated some wrong-headed analysis as conducted, here and there, among the vaxx-hesitant crowd, as the sweet-spot of our group analysis, in order to have your pigheaded way. Shame on you. You well know that the wrong-headed analysis, as it came up, was corrected by the group (we didn’t need your wonky help on that). And as well, I am sure you are aware that the group did not so grossly beat-up on some within the group, that made errors in analysis here and there, like you did (because of course, when putting forward theories and conjectures within a milieu of systemic covid disinformation, …. working out the sweet-spot is going to be a messy affair, and as such, it is necessary to give a bit of leeway, so as to not block-out creative thinking ).

    Shame on you Mr. Unz. This latest misdirection of yours (as per the blockquote provided above) is just so blatantly untruthful (I was there is those other threads, I am well aware of what actually happened with respect to your involvement), … you need to apologize right about now, or your whole gig is going to be completely discredited. Don’t you care about your reputation? Then stop lying.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  126. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for the respectful, substantial reply.

    Your long overdue replacement of broadbrush pejoratives with

    On those other issues, I agree with some and strongly disagree with others.

    in the last paragraph is a refreshing first step in the right direction. There’s plenty of room here for others to consider all of the COVID controversies, and those willing to do so in good faith should be encouraged and welcomed.

  127. Thank you Ron Unz for giving us sanctuary to rant. It was great being here while it lasted.

    Bye everyone, see ya at the pearly gates.

    This just in,

    “You got this”?

  128. peterAUS says:

    You people, who haven’t bought the author’s intent, you know, maybe instead of wasting your time and energy in…ahm….debating…..all that with the author and NPCs here, maybe you could start developing ways as to how to handle the coming reality.

    Food for thought; a picture, if you will:
    You just lost your job. Good thing is, you have savings. Official inflation is 5 %. The prices of groceries you have to buy increased by 25 %. Not many job openings anymore in your industry.
    There are shortages, so you have to buy within certain allocated limits and at certain allocated times at certain allocate places.
    Also, you have to wait in a queue; only certain number of people are allowed in at the same time.
    Mask is compulsory, of course.
    While waiting in the queue you are the only person who isn’t staring/typing into his smart phone.
    You HAVE to sign on when entering the supermarket; preferably by an app but pen and paper are OK too.
    You are expected to offer your hands for the spray.

    You can replace the queue above with waiting for…say…medical assistance. Or similar. Travel, for example. Whatever.

    Now….is anything above that bothers you? It doesn’t the rest, of course; a lot of them actually feel rather well about all that.

    If it does bother you, well….at least that’s not healthy. Any thoughts about how to make that less bothering and/or more bearable?

  129. Wild Man says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    Please read to the end of comment #103, …. the last two paragraphs plus the ending blockquote are key, with respect to my contention (as outlined in my comment #117), that you are probably a dupe to Mr. Unz’ misdirection.

    Then tell me what you think about comment #103.

  130. Can’t believe this guy is still pushing COVID and acting like it’s a thing.

    Wait, he’s jewish. Nevermind.

  131. @eah

    Those aren’t Jews who are doing this to us, they’re Holocaust survivors, you got that goyim.

  132. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    On this passage of your comment:

    “I really would argue that the story is roughly 1000x larger than Chernobyl.”

    I wouldn’t agree with that by way of your rationale (but, by way of different rationale, that you probably don’t like, I believe you are indeed correct that the sars-cov-2 fiasco is much larger). I wouldn’t agree by way of your rationale, for the reasons I gave in comment #103. Both events feature gross incompetence, in the very least, … but alas humans will tend to judge the guilt associated with the gross incompetence, in terms of how bad the resulting disaster is, and I am not convinced that the lack of nuclear power build-up within our current climate change science fake-0ut condition, as partially contingent on the Chernobyl disaster, is not now going to lead to very very big problems that will involve death and destruction in at least some parts of the world.

    However, funny enough, to my mind, you still are correct that the sars-cov-2 fiasco, is a much much larger fiasco, in terms of the lies that the sars-cov-2 fiasco is partly reliant on. The Soviet-regime attempted cover-up lies associated with the Chernobyl disaster were short-lived, and soon corrected. Not so with the sars-cov-2 lies (it has only been 2+ years – eh?). In that way, the sars-cov-2 fiasco, is much more like the climate change science fake-out lying fiasco (that upholds the coming danger associated with the actual Chernobyl disaster).

    These lies I am pointing to (that uphold the utter gross nature of both fiascos) are authored by the faux-west globalism. As always (in nearly every lying narrative of the 20 or so that now promulgate across western culture) it is the faux-west globalism that is the primary problem, for humanity, at this juncture (but I am still keeping an eye out for what the heck is going on with the CCP as well, ….. much opaqueness there, just continues and continues).

    • Thanks: Kali
  133. nosods says:

    “Sometimes a single precipitating event may play a crucial role in the collapse of a decaying empire.”

    If the Chinese Plague – real or imaginary – was engineered to get Joe Biden into the White House (covid-19 or Campaign ’20?), then that will indubitably play a crucial role in the collapse of the decaying American empire.

  134. @Ron Unz

    I’d admit that these current columns of mine are sometimes somewhat repetitive, but people may see one who had missed most of the others,

    I think this is an important point.

    The problem with many of these subjects is that they cannot be effectively addressed in a paragraph or two; they take explaining at length. Judging by some of the, er, lengthy comments, I get the impression that many (most?) Unz readers have a lot of time to spend on the site and can read at their leisure.

    (Perhaps Mr. Unz has statistics on the length of the “average” visit?)

    The point being: some of us do not have much time, and must read in brief snatches when we have time to read at all. The reposting of older articles gives those of us who are pressed for time a chance to see something we may simply not had the opportunity to look at the first go-round.

  135. @anon

    When is this guy ever going to acknowledge that it’s the so called vaccines that are causing the vast majority of excess deaths?

    What caused the vast majority of excess deaths before the vaccine roll-out began?

    • Replies: @Towey
  136. Ron Unz says:
    @Wild Man

    This is just too much at this point. Man-up and admit what you have done. You read a whole lot of what I and others of the western-experimental-vaxx-hesitant had to say, …. of course we know this, because you did engage in point/counterpoint arguments, within these other vaxx-hesitant threads…Don’t you care about your reputation? Then stop lying.

    I’ve certainly sometimes glanced at these sorts of anti-vaxxer comments, but I consider them total crackpottery. None of my views have changed much since my January article on these issues:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-deaths-and-vaxxing-deaths/

    In fact, more recent evidence has further convinced me that I was correct all along. For example, just a few days ago I pointed out that David Martin, the eccentric “scientist” whom the anti-vaxxers have been endlessly citing for the last year or so, now claims that about one-third of the entire American population will soon be dead from vaxxing:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/9000-retweets-and-800000-video-views/#comment-5428358

    He sounds like a total nut to me, and all the anti-vaxxers who’ve been citing him for the last year are obviously gullible idiots.

    Anywhere, there are probably hundreds of fanatic anti-vaxxers on other websites, Twitter, and video platforms so I can’t understand why you and your friends are spending your time on this thread, which has nothing to do with vaxxing.

    I think I’m really going to have to crack down and just trash all the comments of the Flu Hoaxers and anti-Vaxxers that are cluttering up this thread. Once enough of your very lengthy and detailed comments have been trashed, you’ll probably get the idea and depart.

  137. ebear says:

    “Rumble’s traffic still remains merely a sliver of Youtube’s, with the latter attracting roughly 100x as many monthly visits.”

    The amount of traffic by itself doesn’t tell you where that traffic is going. If it’s mostly music, cat and fail videos then it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans and is only of interest to advertisers.

  138. @Ron Unz

    And now back to the S.O.S.?!?!

    I withdraw the thanks conveyed in my last comment.

  139. Thirdtwin says:
    @Thim

    Oh, I see now. JR Foley started out talking about Isshi the bioweapons guy and ended up talking about Kishi, the Tojo right hand guy, who was not the same guy as the bioweapons guy. I should have paid more arttention. My bad.

  140. Towey says:
    @Emmet Sweeney

    I still don’t understand why Unz destroys his credibility by churning out this COVID scam. Anyone with two neurones would understand that the only objective was to create a world recession to strengthen the dollar and they have been successful.

    • Replies: @Biff
  141. He [David Martin] sounds like a total nut to me, and all the anti-vaxxers who’ve been citing him for the last year are obviously gullible idiots.

    One crank doesn’t make the reputable “anti-vaxxers” disappear (to use the smear term for those critical of the Covid shots).  That’s obvious as well.  Addressing the worst proves nothing, address the better instead.

    Here are a few of the better.  The links are pretty much at random, you can do your own search.  Articles mentioning numbers of deaths / injuries are dated.

        Dr. Peter McCullough
        http://ariwatch.com/Links/NineReasonsToStopSupportingTheCovidVaccines.htm
        bitchute.com/video/zt0ODSeWXnwQ/
        bitchute.com/video/KiByS1va3Cfp/
        rumble.com/vg6dcd-peter-mccullough-interview.html

        Dr. Meryl Nass
        https://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2022/06/i-wrote-this-3-months-ago-to-stop.html

        Dr, Pierre Kory
        https://visionlaunch.com/huge-number-of-vax-deaths-its-getting-worse-dr-pierre-kory/

        Dr. Robert Malone
        https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/what-if-the-largest-experiment-on

        Dr. Ryan Cole
        http://ariwatch.com/Links/APathologistSpeaksOut.htm

        Dr. Jane Orient
        https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/dying-post-vaccine-autopsies/

        Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet
        https://rairfoundation.com/dr-lee-meritt-vaccinated-pilots-represent-a-significant-threat-to-aviation/

        Jessica Rose
        bitchute.com/video/UqsRcu3ktWzV/

        Peter Breggin
        bitchute.com/video/WrD08CC3JcVH/

    • Agree: thotmonger, Kali
    • Thanks: JM
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  142. Towey says:
    @Henry's Cat

    There were none!
    The world population grew by 1,05 % in 2020. Australia had 8 thousand FEWER deaths in 2020 than in 2019. In Ireland the death rate was 4% lower in 2020 than 2019.
    The UK government published a table of the mortality rate for the last 50 years which was quickly taken down when they realised the implications.
    UK column did a couple of programs on it.
    In the table for the mortality rate for the past 50 years going from highest to lowest, 2020 was number 38 on the list. Despite the fact that in March and April of that year, 40,000 elderly had been sent from hospitals to the care homes to be euthanised with Midazolam. Again UK column produced an excellent graph comparing deaths in hospitals, nursing homes and at home for that year with other years.

    • Agree: Kali
  143. @Zachary Smith

    Talk about a black eye. Boy you gave it to Sachs. Some tar a feathering too. Will anyone notice?

    We have our Netanyahu who misled us into the 2003 Iraq war. And Russia has their Jeffry Sacks. Other than being pillars of something foul, what is the connection between Netanyahu and Sachs? Lemme guess, bringing down countries? Nah, that is too outlandish.

    What I wonder is why Unz drops Harrison from praise. Neil L. Harrison is the lead author and life scientist who wrote that “bombshell” article. Yet Unz gives all the credit to Sachs. And himself. There is the answer. Ha. No matter. While learning about the origins is important, Unz’s theory remains riddled with flaws. For example:

    The absolutely unmentionable subtext of the current discussion is the obvious possibility that the Covid virus was created in an American lab and then deliberately deployed against China and Iran just as the Iranian government had claimed at the time, eventually leaking back and devastating America and the rest of the West.

    People of European ancestry have been the hardest hit. If this germ was released to attack a certain population, White people certainly look to be the target. Furthermore the illness and death of the Iranian leadership in early 2020 may not have been Covid 19. It could have been another toxin or other bio agent. Gilad Atzmon smelled a fish right out of the gate, (not Unz). Here Atzmon raises concern over similar Mossad assassination methods:

    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/a-viral-pandemic-or-a-crime-scene/

    2. Unz’s original thesis was that Covid was planned and released by a small “rogue element” in the US Government. If that was true, it means it was NOT USA at all, but that small clique of uber-criminals. That means it certainly was not the will of the American people. So Unz’s language here is all messed up when he continually refers to USA, American Empire, or America writ large. What is that about??

    But, of course, Covid 19 could NEVER have been organized by a “rogue element” within the US government when the world’s media, finance, drug companies (like Pfizer), etc. ALL WENT ALONG WITH IT. And yes, the mass media are vile gatekeepers and traitors against the First Amendment. but how could a small band of criminals — I mean hatchet men like Pompeo and Bolton — control all this themselves? Impossible. Something else is going on.

    I agree with Archbiship Vigano: It’s been a global coup de tat that includes the Ukraine mess.

    p.s. Downplaying the harm and risk of Chernobyl and nuclear power as “1000 times less serious” than Covid is actually egregious. Firstly, with the dissemination of commercial nuclear reactors came the proliferation of nuclear weapons to many nations. Are potential nuclear wars 1000 time less serious than Covid 19? Hold your breath.

    Also, with the Fukushima triple reactor meltdown, the odds of a major commercial nuclear reactor accident have in fact quadrupled, from once in ~70 years, to less than every twenty years. Before the centennial of nuclear energy, I bet the odds will be one in every five years — or less.

    True, those who split genes are turning out to be more dangerous than those who split atoms, but let’s not trivialize the risks and improvidence of either.

  144. I believe Tucker Carlson called it out best as the greatest crime in history.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  145. Sisifo says:
    @The Real World

    Not to speak ill of the deaths, but doctor Zelenko was morbidly obese and therefore metabolically unhealthy, and died of cancer – one of the consequences of having metabolic disease – at 48.

    When I told my wife he was 48 she laughed thinking I was making a joke, the guy always loked like he was 30 years older.

    Now, It’s true that an unhealthy doctor could still be a good doctor, in theory. In reality, he could have simply hugely improved his own health with simple lifestyle changes, but he never did.

    I’ll take my health advices somewhere else.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  146. Wild Man says:
    @thotmonger

    “But, of course, Covid 19 could NEVER have been organized by a “rogue element” within the US government when the world’s media, finance, drug companies (like Pfizer), etc. ALL WENT ALONG WITH IT. And yes, the mass media are vile gatekeepers and traitors against the First Amendment. but how could a small band of criminals — I mean hatchet men like Pompeo and Bolton — control all this themselves? Impossible. Something else is going on.”

    Excellent point, and yes, … something else is going on, which is related to this question of yours:

    “Unz’s original thesis was that Covid was planned and released by a small “rogue element” in the US Government. If that was true, it means it was NOT USA at all, but that small clique of uber-criminals. That means it certainly was not the will of the American people. So Unz’s language here is all messed up when he continually refers to USA, American Empire, or America writ large. What is that about??”

    It’s about Mr. Unz always and forever conflating terms like ‘The American Empire’ with ‘faux-west globalism’, when America is almost completely already usurped by faux-west globalism. But Mr. Unz does not like the term, never uses it, and as such, when he says ‘American Empire’ alot of his readership thinks he means something like faux-west globalism (because so many other writers that are published here at UR have well spelled out how this globalizing influence works), …. but knowing a bit on how Mr. Unz operates by now, I am quite sure what this means, is that he does not agree with all these other writers he publishes, though for some reason, he does not want to say so. Since this is all rather irrational, though one may assume that Mr. Unz is in fact a rational-player, then it appears to me, therefore, to be obfuscatory. To what ends? …. remains to be determined, I think.

    • Replies: @JM
  147. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    “so I can’t understand why you and your friends are spending your time on this thread, which has nothing to do with vaxxing.”

    Wrong. I endlessly spell out the obvious, that your theorizing around ‘sars-cov-2 as bioweapon’, therefore, automatically implicates the vaxxes, spike-wise, for over a year now, but albeit just now and again (so as to avoid obnoxiousness), and you mostly ignore, but also disparage once in awhile, but you know what is obnoxious? …. your stone-walling stone wall made out of stupid.

    Imagine featuring a smart man like yourself as somebody dealing in ‘stupid’. But there you have it. No other way to see it.

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  148. JM says:
    @Wild Man

    You make valid and critical points with great deftness. Thanks.

    • Thanks: Wild Man
  149. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    Most people are unaware of israel’s creation “Stuxnet” among other programs that affect industrial control systems. This computer virus is specially designed to infect industrial process control systems. Iran, among other countries have felt the wrath is israel by having their industrial processes disrupted. The only way to avoid these “infections” is to avoid connecting industrial control systems to the internet, which is doable.

  150. @Wild Man

    If I recall correctly, some time ago the Salk Institute published a paper describing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein as a toxin.

    If that is true, it follows that the vaxx is toxic, because it sends messenger RNA to your cells to have them manufacture the toxic spike protein.

    So, as you say, anyone concerned about the virus should be even more concerned about a vaxx that turns your own body into factory for the toxic component of the virus.

    But anyone opposed to being turned into a spike protein factory is an anti-vaxxer crazy? Something seems fishy here.

    Thanks for your input.

    • Thanks: Wild Man
  151. @Ghali

    BTW, throwing JudeoEnglish words like ‘racist’ around on this site damages your credibility and makes you come across as a globohomo enjoyer.

    • Agree: Swaytonious
  152. @profnasty

    Who won the war? The jews.

  153. Biff says:
    @Towey

    I still don’t understand why Unz destroys his credibility by churning out this COVID scam.

    Actually, I respect his perseverance for trying to gain traction for his theory, which many believe is the most plausible explanation for Covid. And one of the more effective ways to get that done is repetition.

    • Agree: JackOH, Iris, Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Jonathan Revusky
  154. Raucus says:

    Almost exactly a year ago Dr David Martin offered a detailed exposé of the sequence of events leading up to the release of the bio-attack.
    https://odysee.com/@driverpro:a/David-Martin---short:e?r=H8SAwzcGMRMh5Ne2F4iC14UQEEgrmv66

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  155. Malla says:

    The USSR has another nuclear disaster earlier back in 1957. Quite a serious one.


    The Soviet Nuclear Disaster you’ve never heard of | Kyshtym Disaster


    Kyshtym Disaster – Biggest Nuclear Disaster Before Chernobyl

    The Soviets did a good job of hiding it from the World and it seems the Americans helped the Soviets in this hiding.

  156. Ron Unz says:
    @Raucus

    Almost exactly a year ago Dr David Martin offered a detailed exposé of the sequence of events leading up to the release of the bio-attack.

    I greatly appreciate your reaffirmation of Dr. David Martin’s longstanding and extremely influential position within the committed anti-Vaxxer community.

    I assume you and all the other anti-Vaxxers are aware that just a couple of weeks ago, Martin proclaimed that 700 million(!) people worldwide will soon be dead from vaxxing, including roughly 1/3 of the entire American population:

    https://www.fromrome.info/2022/06/30/dr-martin-patent-expert-700-million-will-die-from-deathvaxxing-worldwide/

    This is exactly the reason I regard anti-Vaxxers as a bunch of total cranks and crackpots, and they shouldn’t be surprised if their lengthy and detailed comments get summarily trashed on this thread. Once that happens enough times, perhaps they’ll permanently abandon the entire website.

    However, if 1/3 of all Americans do soon die from vaxxing, I’ll be the first to apologize to Martin for my mistaken criticism.

  157. Durruti says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    I believe Tucker Carlson called it out best as the greatest crime in history.

    Tucker, of the Republican Gang, spends most of this video, attacking China. The Democrat Gang spends much of their time, attacking Russia, and the Repubs, China. Dems used to be Red; now they are Blue. The Repubs are, now, Red, used to be true blue.

    The official political ‘Parties’ are twin puppeted gangs, who serve the same Masters. Their pretense of political differences, serves as a cover for the Dictatorship we live under. We have no easy political choice.

    What was the greatest crime in history? You take your pick.

    I waffle between two, for greatest crimes.

    1. Moving the Dodgers out of Brooklyn.

    2. The assassination of JFK & Coup D’état of November 22, 1963.

    3. Put your choice here…………………….

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @Malla
  158. If a mass murder scene was at your house, do you blame someone else three thousand miles away?
    Like helloooooo, I mean, seriously???

  159. @Sisifo

    Apparently, you don’t know the definition of obese, let alone, morbidly obese.
    Dr Zelenko was neither.
    There go your theories.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/technology/doctor-zelenko-coronavirus-drugs.html

    Ignore the recommendations of a Doctor who was spot-on, early and courageously bucked TPTB.
    If that seems like a smart approach, you go with that. Lol….

    • Replies: @Sisifo
  160. Anon[196] • Disclaimer says:

    Everybody forgotten about Fukushima, that Chernobyl movie had the paid pundits saying OMG the worst ever.

    Amazing how the worst can be intentionally forgotten.

    Thee reactor cores disappeared , two melted down into the bedrock, the thiord went boom.

    1440 tonnes of fuel rods, weight includes casings and internal fuel.

    The cooling water tanks stockpiled and leaking or being pumped into the Pacific.

  161. @Ron Unz

    Complete horseshit from another (((Neocon))) gatekeeper. The “gullible idiots” are your sycophants. Obviously it’s not willful ignorance, as you double-down on your clownery, so malice must be your intent.

    The goyim have been warned, the jew exposed again.

    • Troll: Ann Nonny Mouse
  162. @Dumbo

    I was two times in a Respiratory Diseases Hospital and Rehabilitation – 8 weeks and than 4 weeks – treating asthma. Recovered COVID-19 patients started pouring in spring of 2020 and during my second stay they were majority of the hospital clients, for recuperating. Their stories were dramatic and certainly not faked. One of them told me, that when he was admitted to the prior hospital to deal with his Covid-19 , also there were two other patients in the Emergency ward. This pair didn’t make it . . . died quickly.
    These stories, delivered first hand – were convincing.
    Alas, I believe in the theory that the virus was indeed released to hit “others”. It was hitting also many of those I knew, and some I still know.

    • Agree: Iris
  163. meamjojo says:
    @Beagle

    Your quoting from a TWO YEAR OLD ARTICLE? Seriously?

    • Replies: @Beagle
  164. @Ron Unz

    Where is the Booo! button?

    … just a few days ago I pointed out that David Martin, the eccentric “scientist” whom the anti-vaxxers have been endlessly citing …

    Just skip to Bobby Kennedy Jr. why don’t you? He is all yours to debunk, if you got the metal.

    p.s Please stop calling me a stupid nigger. The very large and growing vaccine safety community does not appreciate being pigeon holed as “anti-vaxx”. Thank you very much.

  165. Sisifo says:
    @The Real World

    If that link at the NYT article with a photo of Zelenko was you idea to demonstrate that he wasn’t obese, you failed. I’m a nutritionist and I have a pretty clear idea of what obesity is.

    Obesity is defined in three ways: BMI, an idiotic method that doesn’t distinguish between muscle and fat, waist size and waist to hip ratio, the last two are pretty much equivalent and give a better idea about the amount of damaging fat that a person carries.

    Zelenko, like many people who don’t do any physical activity, seemed not obese, because he had thin legs and arms. But it’s the abdominal fat that matters, even more the intravisceral abdominal fat, and it’s cause or concause of CVDs, cancer, dementia and autoimmune diseases.

    Zelenko was one of the good guys, just one of thousands doctors advocating for orthomolecular medicine to prevent or cure covid, whatever that is. He didn’t invented any protocol that many others didn’t use already, he never debated the idea that virus aren’t pathogens, and was somehow much more famous than all the others doing pretty much his same job.

    His protocol for low risk patients is just a basic supplement regime, not any different from what many recommended in the last 40 years to strengthen the immune system.

    And again, he looked at least 20 years older than he was, even before being sick. He could easily have had a better lifestyle and a better diet, two basic elements to stay healthy, but he didn’t. That makes me question his capacity as a doctor.

  166. Levtraro says:
    @Mike Tre

    Hey Mike Tre, were you forced to get vaccinated?

  167. Levtraro says:
    @eah

    Were you forced to get vaccinated?

    Those students were coerced to get vaccinated, not forced. Do you know what to be forced mean? Perhaps English is 2nd language to you?

    I avoided the mRNA shots, as many others did, and we are happy and healthy. Those whining about being forced to take the shot are wimps, they walked to their shots on their own volition and later they cry like children.

    • Troll: eah
    • Replies: @eah
  168. @Durruti

    Tucker, in my opinion, is a LUNATIC racist Sinophobe. His ‘support’ for Russia is only in the hope that it might be ‘turned’ and join the Western Race Crusade to DESTROY China.
    His latest hate spew was quite, I would say, deranged. Gone are the days of lies about ‘accidental’ release from the WIV, and now it has become a DELIBERATE bio-warfare attack BY China, on the USA. Cunningly disguised by unleashing it on China first (a point he does not address). Plainly intended to raise a pre-war fury of race and ideological hatred against China, he did not mention Ralph Baric, the UNC labs at Chapel Hill, let alone AMRIID at Fort Detrick or the scores of US bio-warfare labs around the world or the USA’s long history of using bio-warfare.
    Having miscalculated catastrophically in regard to the Ukraine, the West are turning to a last throw of the dice hate campaign against China. Here in Austfailia the hate-mongering is UNIVERSAL in politics and the MSM sewer. Dissenting voices are VERBOTEN in dedication to Our Moral Value of freedom of opinion. China is attempting a rapprochement with the new Federal regime, but are being met by straight hatred, and the demand that ALL concessions must come from China, alone. We are White Men-we cannot do wrong or be in error!

    • Agree: Durruti
    • Replies: @Durruti
  169. @thotmonger

    How are all those nuclear plants going to go if the Earth is hit by a coronal mass ejection as great as the 1859 Carrington Event, or larger, as several have been pinpointed by traces in ice-cores? Electrical break-down, supposedly remedied by turning on the generators, if they have not been affected by the CME. How much diesel have they got?
    Because, once it runs out, the cooling tanks that hold spent fuel rods for five years or so, will boil off and the cores catch fire, spewing really nassty stuff into the atmosphere. How many Chernobyls can we take? Let’s face it-we are fecked, one way or a dozen.

  170. JimmyS says:

    Investigating the injection is far more important then the rebranded flu used as the vector to initiate those injections. The idea there was any kind of pandemic only materialized through media and political hysteria when in reality, the total opposite and being sure not to create public hysteria and panic would be the blueprint response if it were actually a genuine pandemic.

    Where I am, it was a serious offence to give medial advice when not medically qualified and may find you explaining yourself in court. However, during covid it was a free for all and every halfwit in the media was telling the public to get jabbed and how safe and effective this completely untested concoction is

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Iris
  171. @peterAUS

    Any thoughts about how to make that less bothering and/or more bearable?

    Be like the rest.

    But are you sure those others are not a lot more scared than you are, they’re just keeping up appearances?

  172. @Ron Unz

    Upthread (#102) statement of Ron Unz:

    On those other issues, I agree with some and strongly disagree with others. But there are dozens or hundreds of anti-Vaxxers and Flu Hoaxers promoting all those issues all across the Internet, so why should I bother talking about them? Especially since I’m not very interested and haven’t bothered investigating the details.

    But here just nine hours later, on the basis of a single assertion of one of those “dozens or hundreds,” you say:

    This is exactly the reason I regard anti-Vaxxers as a bunch of total cranks and crackpots, and they shouldn’t be surprised if their lengthy and detailed comments get summarily trashed on this thread. Once that happens enough times, perhaps they’ll permanently abandon the entire website.

    If you’re unable to grasp why this mystifies some readers, please show it to your next smartest friend and ask his opinion about your reasoning.

    I really would like to understand whether and how these two blockquoted statements can be reconciled. Can you specify what you meant (#102) by “I agree with some [of] all those issues all across the Internet“?

    • Agree: Durruti
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  173. @Ron Unz

    Ron, is Novak Djokovic a crackpot?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  174. JackOH says:
    @Biff

    Biff, I’m seeing perseverance, too.

    Ron has a theory. He’s marshaled a lot of rhetorical mojo in favor of his theory. He’s looking for allies, or, at least semi-allies, to support his theory. He’s the publisher of this Webzine, so he does some repetition of stuff he thinks is important. Publishers do repetition. What’s the big deal?

    I’m not on board with Ron’s theory. I’m not not on board with Ron’s theory.

    I want to see some authoritative public inquiry into Ron’s theory and the other theories of COVID’s origins, and America’s very poor response to COVID. A House-Senate select committee, or something like that. There’ll likely be strong pushback to such an inquiry from America’s medical establishment, which fears a fishing expedition might reveal bad information about our medical establishment and its political machinations.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  175. eah says:
    @Levtraro

    >Perhaps English is 2nd language to you?

    LOL — you forgot an article (‘a 2nd language’, or maybe ‘your 2nd language’) — and ‘to you’ is not really proper English either.

    >Those students were coerced to get vaccinated, not forced.

    Synonyms (see, I know what a synonym is) for coercion — arm-twisting, compulsion, constraint, duress, force, pressure

    As soon as you were shown to be wrong (‘nobody was forced to take the vaccines’), you turn into an effeminate, quibbling little faggot.

    And like I said: it wasn’t just about forced/coerced vaccination.

    Go away you fucking piece of shit.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  176. @Biff

    The problem is that Unz’s iconoclasm is strangely bounded. He takes a very radical stance on the origins of the COVID virus, but then dismisses as crazies anybody who is skeptical about other aspects of the overall narrative. And worse, he does so using this weaponized terminology like “anti-vaxxer” which is really kind of “conspiracy theorist” redux.

    • Agree: Mark Hunter
    • Thanks: Towey
  177. @Towey

    The world population grew by 1,05 % in 2020. Australia had 8 thousand FEWER deaths in 2020 than in 2019. In Ireland the death rate was 4% lower in 2020 than 2019.
    The UK government published a table of the mortality rate for the last 50 years which was quickly taken down when they realised the implications.

    Offhand, if I had to bet on it, I would bet that the statistics above are correct. But, that said, I’m not sure. I know it’s extra work, but I really think that, when you provide such data, you should source it. (And when I say “you”, I don’t mean specifically you, I mean anybody.)

    • Replies: @Willem
  178. Ron Unz says:
    @Greta Handel

    If you’re unable to grasp why this mystifies some readers, please show it to your next smartest friend and ask his opinion about your reasoning.

    I really would like to understand whether and how these two blockquoted statements can be reconciled. Can you specify what you meant (#102) by “I agree with some [of] all those issues all across the Internet“?

    There’s no contradiction and it’s not very complicated…

    I’ve spent enough time looking into Flu Hoaxery and anti-Vaxxery to conclude that they’re mostly nonsense. For example, here’s an article I published in January on these issues, my long Q&A with Mike Whitney, and my (quite favorable) review of the Kennedy book:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-deaths-and-vaxxing-deaths/

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/are-the-opponents-of-the-covid-injections-anti-vaxx-crackpots/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-vaxxing-anthony-fauci-and-aids/

    None of my views have changed since writing those pieces, and indeed they’ve somewhat hardened. The crowning touch was when very prominent anti-Vaxxer Dr. David Martin recently claimed that 1/3 of the entire American population would soon be dead from vaxxing. He’s obviously a total loon and all the many anti-vaxxers who’ve been endlessly citing him for the last year are gullible idiots.

    So based upon my firm position, I don’t have interest or time to waste investigating any further details of that crackpottery, and will probably just trash comments promoting it.

    It takes time and effort to write a lengthy, detailed comment, and with any luck, the commenters who see them trashed will be so outraged they’ll permanently depart this website.

    • LOL: thotmonger
  179. @Iris

    Here again are the words “reported by” with regards to the shysters who pushed this scamming engine along. Those numbers are not to be trusted at all. In fact, in Texas for example, the numbers of cases or deaths were so over reported as to make the whole reporting endeavor an outright lie. They reported cases as being from covid if you even came close to contact with someone, there again IF they were in fact infected when we don’t truly know, and then these unfortunate souls were tossed into the reporting meat grinder as having been infected as well. Says who? Says you? Says the dog sitting on the corner? Who the hell is saying anything believable when corruption and lies are so systemic?

    • Replies: @Iris
  180. Any theory that a country created and deliberately released “covid” as a diabolical plot must account for the fact that “covid” is a form of the common cold with a mortality rate similar to that of many other cold viruses. It has only been extremely disruptive because of the inappropriate reaction to it in most countries, especially injecting the entire population with the “safe and effective” vaccines, which are noxious products that should never have been approved for any age group.

    Does it make sense that a country would bother engineering a pathogen that is only as virulent as the many other cold and flu viruses that arise naturally every year? Even its supposed transmissibility is quite questionable. Since the “gold standard” PCR test is grossly unreliable, is it even true that hundreds of millions around the world caught “covid”? And out of the ones who died, how many actually died of “covid” and how many were killed by the “Fauci protocol” or the “safe and effective vaccines”? While we may never know thanks to the corruption of Western regimes, the percentage is considerably higher than zero.

  181. Durruti says:
    @GMC

    I’m more inclined to believe that Chernobyl and Fukushima were No accidents.

    At Fukushima, General Electric constructed 5 Nuclear Power Plants on top of the Worst Geological Fault Line on the planet. Even homes, or storage facilities, should not be built there. The tendency of most of Japan to earthquakes & tsunamis has been known for hundreds of years.

    Clearly the melt downs at Fukushima were no accident (at best, they were an accident waiting to happen). The 5 damaged Nuclear Facilities cannot be repaired. The Japanese are not even attempting to demolish and bury/cover them, as the lack of a firm foundation/base allows for the continual leakage of Radiation, (unlike Chernobyl, as that Nuclear Facility was constructed on a geologically stable Earth foundation-and therefore, the double sarcophagus enables most of the Radiation to be contained). Even here, Chernobyl, human habitation within a contiguous 100 square miles is impossible for 60,000 years.

    Conversely, the Fukushima catastrophe is so serious, that there is no attempt to protect the Japanese residents of the area from the radiation. Occupied Japan does not talk about Fukushima, and the hope of the Puppet Gauleiters is that if the people do not know about the danger, the problem will disappear. They have written-off (as we say), the Northern 25% of Japan. They keep flushing the Nuclear Waste into the Pacific Ocean (all the storage facilities are full, and new ones cost money).

    To be fair; America flushes nuclear waste from an old Weapon facility located in Oregon, into the Columbia River. The radioactive waste is headed West, as the Fukushima radiation is headed East. Poor Pacific Ocean.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Thanks: emerging majority
    • Replies: @GMC
    , @Athena
    , @Athena
  182. @Kali

    Oh, for crying out loud, Ron! Until and unless you develop a willingness to question this official narrative … your credibility as a serious researcher will continue to diminish, as will your reputation as an honest man.

    Exactly.

  183. @Ron Unz

    Dr. David Martin being wrong about his prediction—assuming that turns out to be the case—does not in any way disprove the contention that the sera administered to most of the population are neither safe nor effective, and your implication that the opposite is true does not speak well to your ability to treat this issue in an impartial way.

    In fact, there can be no serious debate about the lack of effectiveness of the sera. If they were effective, then it really would have been”two and done”, like the government and the pharma companies promised when they came out, rather than the endless “boosters” Pfizer’s sinister CEO is now pitching.

    You seem very emotionally attached to the question of the safety and effectiveness of the sera, perhaps because you are reluctant to admit that you may have made a grievous mistake regarding your personal health, one founded on irrational fear given that the vast majority of the “unvaccinated” recover from “covid”. No reasonable man reading your comments would conclude that you are being objective about this matter.

    • Agree: Greta Handel
    • Thanks: thotmonger
  184. @JackOH

    Are you (still) getting booster shots, Jack? I remember how you were flipped and then arrogantly expressed incredulity over those who remained hesitant.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  185. Kali says:
    @peterAUS

    [I trashed your very long, totally off-topic comment, but then felt sorry for you. This is your final warning. Any such future comments will be trashed.]

    This may sound flippant Peter, given our recent conversation, but bare with me as I revert to my original “plan A”, and attemt to describe how I imagine it might play out.

    [MORE]

    I don’t know if you recall when you and I first encoutered one another on this website. That encounter culminated in you giving me a “Moving on.” responce. But maybe the intervening years have helped me to develope my ability to describe this particular vission in a way that you might better appreciate… I hope!

    The scenario you describe – which indeed is a very plausible outcome of a “pandemic prepared” governmet responce to a sniffles contagion – would be my que to “start the party”. (As I said, bare with me.)

    Inserting “more” tag here, as what follows is quite long and writen (it transpires) as fiction. – I beg the kind indulgence of the moderator to publish this reply (it is relevant, but the need to paint a picture pressed me in a rather prosaic direction.)

    The long, long queue of depressed, socially distanced, masked and “dissinfected”people outside the local foodbank, waiting for their weekly rashions moves slowly, as pandemic-protocols drag on and on. Social isolation takes it’s toll. Few make eye contact, and fewer speak.

    A large van pulls up at the top end of the street, the back doors open and the tailgate drops down to reveal a complete sound and light system and six huge speakers.

    DJ Starter [not his real name, though he and his van really do exist] fires up the on-board generator, as the on-board crew get to work tacking up the mobil kitchen and sitting area at one side of the van.

    Within minutes the music has started, deep bass notes echoing down the street. “… You got mud on your face, you big disgrace, Kicking your can all over the place, singin ..!”

    The smell of home-made, organic veggie burgers [my recipe] and frying onions begins to drift toward the thin line of waiting wards, and that fearful, huddled, yet anti-socially distanced, mass cautiously begins to make eye contact with one another for the first time. One question etched in their eyes: “WTF?”

    The crew, having finished the quick assembly of the field kitchen, because, as everyone knows, a festival crew is an efficent force, move to the back of the van, now the front stage, ready to start the party.

    Stomp-Stomp-CLAP, Stomp-Stomp-CLAP! “We will, we will rock you!” Stomp-Stomp-CLAP!

    Surprisingly, it’s the older of the thinned out huddled mass that first begin to stir.

    PeterAUS wipes a tear from his eye as he laughs and cries behind his medical looking mask at the sight of Old and Grumy stomping and clapping his way up the street to join the party.

    Peter removes his mask and uses it to dry his eyes and blow his nose. He’s enjoying the spectacle, but he knows the future, and knows it is more bleak than even Orwell foretold. If only those clever retirees at his favourite online pub had managed to come up with a plan. Too late now, he tells himself, sniffing, as he watches the show.

    He’d never seen the hippies of bygone years as anything other than reactionary deadbeats and losers. But what confrontes him now is an obviously organised, coordinated operation being conducted by a whole new generation of dredlocked, tattooed hippies! He watches as a wholy unexpected scene unfoldes before his eyes…

    Un-noticed in all the excitement, a crowd has quietly been assembling in a nearby car park…

    The fragrance of dhal and rice meets the sweet smell of frying onions…

    DJ Starter seamlessly moves the rythem “one two three, one, two, three, one, two, three” to play a walts as the pre-ordered, pre-paired crowed moves in to dance. Soon to be joined by the brave and the fearless, the old and the young (children).

    Volunteers at Kali’s Kitchen begin to hand out burgers and home-made lemonade. Gratis.

    The walts segueys into jungle rythems and the “frontline” (ravers and revellers found at every festival and trance party) un-pair, take their places, and dance.

    It doesn’t need telling that the petti-officials at the foodbank called the police the moment one of their wards stepped out of line.

    A couple of squad cars turn up and a handful of patrol officers attemt to find the organiser and – the “off” switch.

    Big Mick and Mad Adam [not their real names] who’ve worked security at so many festivals and night clubs for so many years, cheerfully prevent them getting near the stage and kitchen by leading them off to one side to talk away from the noise of the music.

    As the police wait for back-up, and a seargent to tell them what to do, their feet can be seen tapping to the beat, as one or two even accept the lemonade they’ve been offered (though they did refuse the food) glad of the chance to breath freely as they drink, maskless and momenarily free.

    DJ Starter, somehow, as if by magic, has managed to squeese a line-dance classic into his set. “.. but don’t tell my heart, my achy breaky heart. I just don’t think he’d understand…” [There’s somthing for everyone here!]

    Folks emerge from their homes. – Some don’t, of course. Some fear the sniffles. Some fear freedom. Some call the police. – But most have seen through the plandemic scams by now. Nanna Mable (not a real person) quickly puts on her favourite dress and leaves the isolation and loneliness of her home confinement, as do many of her neighbours, and follows the sound of the music, arriving at the party just as PetrOldsack decides to have a dance…

    Billy Stilts (not a real person) has now arrived, as arranged, and begun handing out ballon animals to all the children, as his parner Clarrissa Clown stars pulling paper flowers from her sleaves.

    Seargent Angry turns up, followed closely by Captain Cringe.

    But by now the hundred-strong crowd, plus festival crew, plus security team, have been joined by by a hundred locals on top of the dozenes of previously “huddled” queuers.

    In the meantime, Constable Careless, who’s been getting more and more depressed as his job no longer involves fighting actual crime, has started talking, makeless, to his colegues. “I quit,” he concludes, as he removes his uniform cap and moves to join the party.

    His friends look to each other to gage the others reactions. Freedom to choose?

    They fall silent, thinking. One, P.C Perceptive, picks up one of the flyers that’ve been handed around and starts to read. “Did you know it only takes three months to grow potatos?!” he asked his partner, in surprise.

    “Shut that sound system down!” yells Seargent Angry to the constables closest to him. They move toward the stage, but the frontline blocks their way and Big Mick steps froward to engage the enemy – on the friendliest of terms. Followed closely by Mad Adam.

    Meanwhile, in Paris…
    Meanwhile in Rome..
    In New York
    In LA
    In Freemantle
    In Wellington…

    Stomp-Stomp-CLAP, Stomp-Stomp-CLAP…

    My apologies for getting carried away, but I hope you at least enjoyed my little tale, even if you find it to be a ludicrous propersition.

    The ending of such a story/eventuality would entirely depend on the will of the people (real-life people, not characters from an as yet unwriten book). But the scene I describe above, or something like it, would be exactly what I’d try to create should another lockdown occur before a war.

    I’m half afraid to ask what you think. But I’m asking anyway. (I’m also a little embaraced to hit “publish comment” on this, but it’s taken me a while to write, so here goes…

    With love,
    Kali.

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    , @IreneAthena
    , @peterAUS
  186. anastasia says:
    @Ron Unz

    I can assure you that if they all die from the vaccine, the public will be the last to know. What is the expression? They have 6 ways to Sunday to come up with an explanation that will be swallowed whole by at least 50 percent of the population, probably more. I don’t know about anyone else, but I need “proof”, and notice that they never give any. They give stories, and statistics, but never proof. All argument from the other side is discarded as “conspiracy theory”. You don’t need proof when it is only a “conspiracy theorist” on the o ther side of the issue.

    I find Martin’s prediction presumptuous. Unfortunately, those on the other side of the argument, like Martin, while they do not qualify in my opinion as “conspiracy theorists” often do not lay bare their proof. I need proof.

    So, it’s difficult, very difficult to find truth these days when you have proven liars on one side and people who actually said out loud “that we can survive a nuclear attack”, exposing their own minds and hearts on the subject, and “conspiracy theorists” many of whom are mere disinformation agents on the other.

  187. @Greta Handel

    Sorry, that arrogantly was needless.

    But it’s remarkable how people who’ve taken the shot(s) avoid further discussion.

  188. Beagle says:
    @meamjojo

    Yes, because what immediately happened to leverage the pandemic declaration in 2020 is best exemplified by what immediately happened in 2020 to leverage the pandemic declaration.

  189. @Ron Unz

    So you can’t specify what you meant (#102) by “I agree with some [of] all those issues all across the Internet.”

    Your comments on this thread alone are an embarrassment for someone who fancies himself a public intellectual and advocate of free speech.

    You also may want to ponder whether this is a factor in the Review’s ongoing loss of worthwhile, dissident columnists, replaced with shooting star flakes and redundant copium denmothers for disaffected whites.

  190. Iris says:
    @Kratoklastes

    That piece of entirely-fabricated shit was cited 1496 times – and was literally shouted from the media rooftops – before its 100% corrupt, fabricated nature was exposed and Lancet was forced to retract.

    You are correct in principle, but you are being unfair on The Lancet as your argument does not represent what happened in reality.

    A medical journal, like any other science journal for that matter, do not verify by themselves each finding they publish, but rely on the credentials and reputation of the authors, in this case Prof Mandeep Mehra, from the Brigham and Women’s hospital in Boston, Massachusetts.

    Not only the study was authored by a reputable professional, but this lead author was apparently himself fooled and deceived by the data provided to them.

    After many inconstancies had been picked up by journalists of The Guardian, The Lancet demanded clarifications from Pr Mehra, who, realising that he could not vouch for the information underpinning his work, decided to retract his article.

    The Lancet’s editor, Richard Horton, said he was appalled by developments. “This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency,” he told the Guardian.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/04/covid-19-lancet-retracts-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials

    The bogus Hydro-chloroquine “study” was an extremely elaborate hoax, carried out with the means of one or more state actors, or by one or more “Big Pharma” actors. The Lancet cannot be held responsible, especially since they so promptly and publicly acknowledged having been deceived.

    • Disagree: thotmonger
  191. Kali says:
    @Kali

    [I trashed your very long, totally off-topic comment, but then felt sorry for you. This is your final warning. Any such future comments will be trashed.]

    Thank you for your kind indulgerce, Ron. I can see you’re getting a hard time from my fellow “anti-vax crackpots”, so I doubly appreciate you allowing my rather unusual comment.

    Kind regards and love,
    Kali.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  192. @Wild Man

    The Covid virus was engineered. That was pointed out by people who know such things quite early. The question is, was the engineering done at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill before everything was sent to Wuhan, or did the Chinese do it?

    The original work was carried out at UNC, but was ended when gain of function studies were outlawed in the US.

    • Agree: Wild Man
  193. Beagle says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’ve read your article which is receptive to the AIDS controversy which destroyed the careers of some prominent scientists decades ago, similar to what’s happening now to dissident voices in medicine.

    Though I bought RFKJr’s book, I haven’t yet read enough to know to what extent he addresses the key role then-new PCR played in the 1990s.

    That’s where Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR manufacturing technique for genetic material, comes in pointing out all PCR does is amplify a sample. PCR proves nothing about aetiology. As more cycles are used in PCR the biological equivalent of noise to signal goes up. Mullis maintained you could find a little of almost anything in everyone with enough cycles, as each cycle doubles the genetic material in the sample. Do that 30-40 times to one shred of something and the numbers are staggering. It says nothing about viral load in that case, a key to what makes people sick according to medicine, usually.

    It was a dark joke back then that if you received a positive AIDS test you could always go somewhere which used fewer cycles for its PCR tests to be cured. Also similar to today, Fauci was pushing some highly questionable expensive drugs and closing off other, less profitable, off-patent avenues for treatment.

    In 2021, CDC quietly acknowledged it needed a test which could better distinguish SARS-CoV-2 from other cold and flu viruses.

    https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

    Do you not see how the high number of cycles used to test for COVID (based on Drosten’s in silico virus model without a gold standard reference, not even a sample, raising even more issues) is critical to the death numbers?

    I know people get sick and die. The question is assigning it to a particular pathogen.

  194. Levtraro says:
    @eah

    But did you get vaccinated?

  195. Iris says:
    @InnerCynic

    Says who? Says you? Says the dog sitting on the corner? Who the hell is saying anything believable when corruption and lies are so systemic?

    Thanks for your reply and your courtesy. I understand your viewpoint but I disagree completely.

    Countries make their health and mortality statistics public, that are then used to produce such studies.

    Among these countries, only a minority are hopeless US/NATO/Davos poodles that will possibly try to twist their figures if they can get away with it.

    But what about the majority of humankind, the 88% of people globally whose UN state representatives refused, for instance, to condemn the Russia war in the Ukraine?

    Do you think these countries are brave enough to tell the US to jog on for a matter existential to its empire, but in the mean time would be meek enough to fiddle their morbidity statistics to suit the clowns in DC?

    Will all due respect to the American people, I think that you greatly, immensely, overestimate the influence of the USA rulers, if you think that they can force almost all countries on Earth to lie about their Covid experience.

    Just look around you: Biden tried to beg servile Saudi Arabia to produce more oil to counter the self-defeating Russia sanctions, and they told him to get lost. Why would they lie and make up a unpopular Covid death toll to suit him?

    • Thanks: emersonreturn
    • Replies: @Not Important
    , @InnerCynic
  196. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    The crowning touch [showing the anti Covid-vaccine position wrong] was when very prominent anti-Vaxxer Dr. David Martin recently claimed that 1/3 of the entire American population would soon be dead from vaxxing.

    That fallacious thinking is easily mocked:

    The crowning touch showing that  2 10  <  100  was when very prominent Charles Ponzi said  2 10  >  1,000,000.

    There are cranks in every movement.  David Martin is a crank and completely irrelevant to this discussion.  We should address reputable people such as Dr. Peter McCulaugh, and leave the cranks out of it.

    Which is worse:  that covid was (probably) caused by a neocon biowarfare attack against China and Iran, or the vaccine pharmaceutical fraud and associated suppression of safe and effective early treatment?

    Pharmaceutical companies suppressed early treatment in order to get Emergency Use Authorization which (1) allowed then to be subsided by federal funds, and (2) made them free of responsibility for vaccine injuries and deaths.  Cheating people out of their money is one thing, cheating them out of their lives and health is on another level.  “Cheating” is the right word because they knew the vaccines were very unsafe before releasing them on the public.  Now they are doubling down and pushing their poison on children and toddlers.  These people are psychopaths.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
    , @Ron Unz
  197. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Kali

    All right, Kali! There’s a reason such things as military bands exist. Putting in a playlist request now for:

    (With lyrics)

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @Wild Man
  198. anastasia says:
    @Ron Unz

    “I think I’m really going to have to crack down and just trash all the comments of the Flu Hoaxers and anti-Vaxxers that are cluttering up this thread. Once enough of your very lengthy and detailed comments have been trashed, you’ll probably get the idea and depart.”

    Don’t do it, Mr. Unz

  199. Iris says:
    @JimmyS

    Investigating the injection is far more important then the rebranded flu used as the vector to initiate those injections.

    I see that it is the contrary.

    Some of the vaccines were certainly rushed without sufficient trials, proved to be only marginally useful, and may, hypothetically, even prove to be harmful in the future in case a large number of vaccinated suffer from serious side effects.

    But all this vaccine dark tale remains hypothetical, compared to the Covid disaster that is real, that has materialised and has devastated our lives for the past two years.

    Why would anybody worry more about a hypothetical, future vaccine disaster, when they have so much to feel angry and sorry for themselves about, for having been robbed of two years of their lives by a pandemic engineered by a bunch of war criminals who got scot free?

    This continued mono-obsession with the Covid vaccines is at best misguided, if not a diversion from the much more serious issue that all of humankind was deliberately hit with a biological WMD.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @thotmonger
  200. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Mark Hunter

    The preview allowed superscripts but the post itself ignored the HTML superscript code.  All the
        2 10
    should be
        2 ^ 10,
    that is, 2 to the 10th power.

  201. @H. L. M

    I am not sure about the U.S., but I know about China. For flu, no matter how bad it is, deaths from Flu is ignoble, 1.4 billion population usually has a couple of hundreds dead at most each year. But Covid-19 is REAL. After Wuhan city lockdown, before the large scale mobile hospitals setting up, in a short 2 some weeks, barely in Wuhan which has around 9 million population had around 5000-6000 people who were infected with Covid-19 were dead. Due to plenty of them were dead at home, so they were not populated as covid-19 deaths.

    so yes, Covid-19 is real, and a lot worse than Flu

  202. @Iris

    Name one of these countries please.

    Everyone was incentivized to play the game.

    • Replies: @Iris
  203. Che Guava says:
    @Desert Fox

    To say that some type of seasonal ‘flu didn’t exist is a little silly.

    Even if it came from a lab, it isn’t much.

    A young colleague was asking me about it the week before last. I asked how old he is. mid-twenties.

    My reply was just you must remember or have read of the SARS, bird flu, swine flu mark II, and MERS panics.

    He said he had, although from his face, I don’t think he really knew of the last. At his age at the time, who would? It didn’t go anywhere, just used at the time to make a small panic.

    I said this is just the same, but unlike those earlier ones, where the panics only lasted a few weeks, the panic for this one has been maintained into the third year, probably continuing into the fourth at least.

    Mr. Unz clearly believes that it is a great catastrophe, I know that the great catastrophe, except possibly among the Iranian political elite, is only in the economically restrictive reactions and side-effects of the western-Israeli vaccines, often including sudden death in youth, now that infants are being forcibly injected in many places, we just wait and see.

    The negative results will be memory-holed for many years, but as with the sudden-death epidemic among the vaccinated fit very young adult population, it will be apparent once they hit adolescence.

    On condition, of course, that we don’t see a sudden death-rate rise among the infant vaxed.

  204. gay troll says:

    Ron dismisses excess deaths due to the jabs as a preposterous notion, meanwhile the non COVID mortality spike is clear as day on the CDC’s own website, as the MSM trots to and fro searching for a believable explanation. What’s causing all these heart attacks and shit, again? Delayed care? Post Pandemic Stress Disorder? Revenge of the flu virus? Sudden Adult Death Syndrome? Climate change? Are football players falling dead within statistical expectations? What about life insurance payouts? What did Igor Chudov just write, a 26 sigma drop in birthrate in Taiwan and other highly jabbed locations? Is this all fake news?

    One then wonders why Ron chose to lead off his coverage of coronamania with Mike Whitney screaming that Satan was in the needles so as to depopulate the Earth? Ron let Whitney scream about depopulation with NO evidence (or connection to reality) for months. And now that the evidence is in, Ron scoffs at us lunatics who rely on actual data, while Whitney has moved on to writing horse shit about the Ukraine?

    Why does Ron even feature these trolls? Why were Godfree Dogberts and Saint Larry Romanoff both early corona contributors, despite the fact that Unz now disses Godfree every chance he gets, and likewise characterizes Romanoff’s early theses about Ft. Detrick as inept pro China propaganda? Ron currently subjects us to 33rd degree mindfuck Andrew Langlin, all so we can savor the bygone privilege of free speech online. Purveying the last rations of what should be our birthright doesn’t make you a hero, Ron, on the contrary, you operate a de facto monopoly and can therefore poison us at your leisure.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  205. Che Guava says:
    @Iris

    If you look at the stats. there has been a huge rise in deaths among young otherwise healthy vaxed adults.

  206. Kali says:
    @IreneAthena

    Oh, you got it baby! Perfect choice, and it certainly is on the playlist! 🙂 (The tunes mentioned in my little “unusual comment” I pulled out of the air on the fly, which is why Achy Breaky Heart found its way in there! lol)

    Plus I just added a marching pipe band to the cast that will apear in the novel I may one day write (if God grants me the time and space I’d need to write it).

    Did I tell you I love you, Irene? – In a purely platonic way of course.

    THANK YOU for so much constantly positive feed back. (I’ll tell you about my spuds and the moles in another comment as Ron has indulged me quite far enough today.)

    Big love, sis,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  207. anon[330] • Disclaimer says:

    More probative evidence of banned biological weapons development:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7568239/

    SARS1 refined with transplanted superantigens

  208. Wild Man says:
    @IreneAthena

    Hey – some super-cool exquisite Motown vibe, for our summer groove!! Lov’in it. America is so great. America did this stuff. This couldn’t have happened anywhere, but America, …. this Motown thing (contingent as it is, on the long history of sharing folk music, among differing folk, in America). God Bless America!

    • Agree: IreneAthena
    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  209. peterAUS says:
    @Kali

    I trashed your very long, totally off-topic comment, but then felt sorry for you. This is your final warning. Any such future comments will be trashed.

    The mask is slipping.

    ..A large van pulls up at the top end of the street…

    Sounds promising.

    …PeterAUS wipes a tear from his eye….

    Good bye.

    • Replies: @Kali
  210. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Kali

    Dear Kali, if not for the risk of being misunderstood —by others— I would’ve clicked LOL as it is the only button that carries the joyful, glorious feeling I have contemplating your vision.
    Lots and lots of love, IreneAthena
    God’s blessings be upon you!

  211. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Wild Man

    Exactly. America is exceptional in ways good AND bad, and Mo-town (and jazz, and Black Gospel) are examples of a national music treasure emerging out of the ashes of the sorrows of slavery. Keep on singing, Wildman!

    • Thanks: Wild Man
  212. peterAUS says:

    While the focus is on the Death Virus (or is it Death Vaccine) and the more esoteric/exciting things as depopulation, transhumanism, nano tech Matrix etc.

    Now, for the people in this thread wondering “why Ron…?!”, maybe:
    The coming dystopia will be managed by technocratic elite. The life is supposed to become digitalized.
    Central Bank DIGITAL Currency. Universal DIGITAL ID. Stuff like that.
    Perhaps…..the new philosopher kings will be people having such expertise. Gaining a lot of wealth and power is usually a strong incentive for a person.
    Just a thought, mind you.

    • Thanks: Towey
    • Replies: @Badger Down
  213. @Godfree Roberts

    the Reds deserved it, since they brainwashed captured US soldiers, as proved in this

    documentary film:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=U1GUJMTmoMY

  214. @Iris

    Not only the study was authored by a reputable professional, but this lead author was apparently himself fooled and deceived by the data provided to them.

    You seem to have a ‘normie’ view of how research is generated – e.g., that the names that appear as authors on the citation, can be reliably assumed to have actually lifted a finger or executed a keystroke.

    The ‘study’ was generated by people internal to Surgisphere, and the authors permitted their reputations to be ‘amortised’ by permitting their names to be attached to the draft. They are not ‘clean hands’ by any stretch.

    This is astoundingly common.

    Pfizer are past masters at it; their staff are the people who actually do every aspect of study design, every piece of statistical chicanery, and write every jot and tittle of the resultant ‘study’… and they get KOLs to prepend their names to the garbage that is submitted for publication.

    It’s 20 years since ‘Study 329‘ was published – that’s the study used in support of the claim that Paroxetine (Paxil) had useful clinical outcomes in adolescents. It was written by a PR firm hired by the Pharma company.

    And it’s never been retracted.

    Don’t ever exculpate the charlatans who sell their reputations.

    By doing what they do, they are equally responsible for the situation in which ‘science’ finds itself – where epistemology takes a back seat to the grubby machinations of companies who will do whatever they can to sell their drugs… including mounting a fabricated case for a drug of zero efficacy – but that caused significant generation of suicidality – to be prescribed to 12-18 year old children.

    • Thanks: Towey
  215. Kali says:
    @peterAUS

    Good bye.

    Oh please don’t take it personally Peter. I used your name for a character in a story not to offend you but to amuse you. I thought you might actually find it funny.

    Please do read on and (if you then choose to) give me your feed back.

    I ask for that feedback because I value your opinion and perspective.

    With love,
    Kali.

  216. Willem says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Numbers can be found here

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?region=Europe&country=NLD~DEU~DNK~NZL~AUS~USA~ISR~Scotland.

    They publish these data on a weekly basis and you can add any country that you like.

    Australia seems an odd one out (had decreased mortality rates in 2020), about Ireland and UK, not sure..

    But in general the excess mortality is there in almost every country since covid started. Prior to 2020, excess mortality (on a year to year basis) was not seen in NL since at least 1998, when I started counting (and no, don’t have a reference at hand. In the US it was different (opioid epidemic) with excess mortality since the early 2000s and als the UK had excess mortality since (I think) 2012. Angus Deaton did studies on this, which was even reported at Unz (if I remember correctly..). Or Google: ‘deaths of despair Deaton’

    The reason for excess mortality since 2020 remains guess work. Educated guess work. 2020: medical negligence, wrong treatments (ventilation, remdesivir, midazolam) and well… the lockdowns themselves were probably not healthy either. 2021 onwards: vaccinations.

  217. @Towey

    The UK government published a table of the mortality rate for the last 50 years which was quickly taken down when they realised the implications.
    UK column did a couple of programs on it.

    What is ‘UK column’?

    2020 was an unprecedented year in many ways, including the number of deaths; the overall number of deaths registered in 2020 was 75,925 higher than we would expect when looking at the five-year average between 2015 and 2019.

    Looking at individual years, the number of deaths was 77,161 higher than the number registered in 2019, the biggest year-on-year increase since 1940. 2020 registered 66,431 more deaths than 2018, the year with the highest number of deaths in the previous five years and 82,954 deaths more than 2016, the year with the lowest number of deaths in the previous five years.

    Even compared to 10 and 20 years ago, the number of deaths was higher in 2020 by 123,636 and 75,504 respectively.

    But for the best comparisons, we really need to look at age-standardised mortality rates.

    https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/01/12/counting-deaths-involving-coronavirus-a-year-in-review/

    • Replies: @Towey
  218. @peterAUS

    If it does bother you, well….at least that’s not healthy. Any thoughts about how to make that less bothering and/or more bearable?

    Easy. Quit fascist Autralia.

  219. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghali

    If you’re enough of a chump to believe it should properly be called COVID, then it’s entirely proper to say it began in Wuhan, China.

    Learn to read, “began” doesn’t mean “intentionally”, and it doesn’t mean the disease was created there originally. It just means that what we are calling COVID was first codified in patients at that location.

    Calling it racist is moronic, and a clear projection of your own feelings on the matter of which you are in denial.

  220. @Haxo Angmark

    Actually, it was the other way around. Returned POWs were brainwashed by the UN forces. I well remember an old guest on the radio some years ago, being reduced to tears by his memory, not of Chinese brainwashing, but that of his own side. It coincides perfectly with MKULTRA and numerous other US and Western ‘mind control’ programs. The ‘reds’ ‘deserved’ germ warfare did they, you racist, Rightwing, THUG?

  221. @gay troll

    The number of countries suffering so far inexplicable drops in birth-rates is growing. That may be the sacred sauce of the inoculations-population reduction by increased infertility. The ‘Children of Men’ scenario.
    I suspected as much since a FOI request in Japan revealed the Pfizer ‘vaccine’ concentrating in the ovaries, among other a few other organs. The worry then was the lipid nano-particles. And we now have the confidential Pfizer test results that they wanted to hide for seventy-five years, showing that of women who received the Pfizer gene therapy inoculation during ‘testing’ and whose pregnancy outcome Pfizer bothered to discover, 28 out of 29, ie 97% suffered spontaneous abortion or other ‘non-viable’ outcomes.

  222. @Iris

    The Surgisphere hoax was not reported anywhere in the Western MSM as far as I know, when it was revealed and withdrawn. The same MSM vermin, scum, insects, made great use of it to denigrate HCQ before the fraud was revealed, then NOTHING.

  223. Biff says:
    @Ron Unz

    None of my views have changed since writing those pieces, and indeed they’ve somewhat hardened.

    What if the Vaccine turns out to be similar to Vioxx? – only slightly deadly, but deadly enough to warrant law suits and market removal(the latter had preventative laws put in place most likely because of awareness of the problems that would ensue)

  224. Ron Unz says:
    @Mark Hunter

    There are cranks in every movement. David Martin is a crank and completely irrelevant to this discussion. We should address reputable people such as Dr. Peter McCulaugh, and leave the cranks out of it.

    Look, I’m not an anti-vaxxer so I can’t say whom most of them follow, and I’m sure there are lots of different groups within the movement. But over the last year or so, I’ve seen numerous glowing references to Dr. David Martin and his videos have supposedly been extremely popular in those circles.

    As you probably remember, about a year ago we had a couple of enormously long Open Threads on vaxxing, and when I just now checked, David Martin’s name appeared 22 times in the comments.

    A week or two ago, I was exchanging emails with a (reasonably rational) anti-vaxxer I know, and he quickly cited David Martin regarding a crucial point. When I pointed out that Martin had just predicted 1/3 of America’s population would soon die from vaxxing, he became rather embarrassed. Another anti-vaxxer promoted Martin in a comment upthread.

    Maybe lots of the more sensible anti-vaxxers do regard Martin as a crank and a crackpot. But it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s so enormously popular among activists that they’re very reluctant to criticize him. If I’m correct, that hardly demonstrates the maturity and credibility of the anti-vaxxer movement.

    • Replies: @Ferrari
    , @RobinG
    , @IreneAthena
  225. Malla says:
    @Durruti

    So Murica has only two real political parties, only two real “options”. Once side wants war with Russia and the other side wants war with China. Murica is locked in war. Either option, there is war.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  226. Ferrari says:
    @Ron Unz

    Claims that the vaccines will lead to depopulation are absurd. However, more measured and thoughtful academics have pointed out that the proper risk reward ratio is not there for certain people in our society. In particular it seems young men under 40 and, in general, children under 17.

    Nevertheless, the approval protocol for children’s Covid vaccine was dubious at best. The endpoints they were looking to approve on were antibody levels, not actual number of infections prevented. Why not just test the end point you are interested in? Add in the fact that the children’s vaccines were tested on a very very small sample size, I don’t think its absurd to claim that this is an example of regulatory capture by big pharma — a known phenomenon pre-2020 of course.

    Though most reasonable critics I have read do state that the risk reward ratio was there for those in the older age groups. Nevertheless, the fact that the control group was allowed to get vaccinated from the initial 2020 randomized controlled trial should be considered wholly unethical if not a criminal act. Such a randomized group of trial participants would have allowed claims of death prevention to be evaluated much more rigorously.

    The reality is, death prevention and transmission reduction were two end points never tested in a randomized control trial. Why not? The media certainly love to claim the shots do prevent transmission and reduce death rates, but they derive these claims from observational data, which can be misleading.

    The link below is a Substack with a thoughtful German academic. Though he is anonymous, so I cannot verify his professional claims.

    https://www.eugyppius.com/p/even-the-peer-reviewed-academic-science

  227. @James N. Kennett

    “If Mr Unz’ hypothesis is correct, a couple of questions arise: (1) How did the US actors who masterminded the plot expect to avoid blame?”

    Have you been watching the current MSM and their gov’t accomplices? Month after month of J6 nonsense while inflation goes through the roof, green energy causes starvation/death/collapse/real insurrections in places like Sri Lanka and Ghana, the Biden family’s list of crimes grow daily, SCOTUS judges are stalked by mad leftists including armed ones who plan assassinations, etc. Oh, and excess deaths, vaccine injuries and crazy side effects go through the room with no mention by the MSM. The press is literally getting away with murder all over the place.

  228. RobinG says:
    @Ron Unz

    Here’s another “expert.” There’s a lot of ground between ‘bio-weapon’ and ‘never existed’ but the former seems more likely to me, although I’m not opposed to natural causes either. (‘Never existed’ involves at least a million ‘crisis actors’ in the US alone.) I haven’t watched this. I’m not a fan of this lady, and don’t care what her credentials are. The fact that Regis Temblay recommends her only goes to underscore how anyone’s expertise in one field is no indication of their knowledge in another. But there are sure to be people here who dig into this… and I hope some of them shred her.

    The Scamdemic: “Covid 19” – SARS COV 2 the Virus That Never Was
    https://rumble.com/v1blsi3-the-scamdemic-covid-19-sars-cov-2-the-virus-that-never-was.html

  229. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    Hi Ron Unz, “Soon?” you say? The article you posted quoted Martin giving 2028 as the…umm…drop-dead-date. Look, far be it from me to try to change your mind. I’m not even trying to defend David Martin against charges of wackiness because, heavens, that awful bow-tie.

    I’m just trying to put the timeline into perspective.

    Relative to “soon,” we have “all the time in the world” between now and 2028 to do a correction to the course of that Death Ship, so there may be far fewer casualties. Between now and 2028, there may be enough time to:

    (1) fight back against the increasing number of strange cancers and cardiovascular maladies. At the forefront of the charge are courageous biochemists and other medicos who have already been released from their Phony-Phunny-Pharma entanglements, and who truly want to help people.

    (2) —- and I know you’ve said things to indicate you’re on board with this one— put a STOP to parents being pressured to give these inadequately tested (to say the least) injections to their kids. There are a lot of young ones who will be born between now and 2028.

    Look at the “x millions dead by 2028” not as a threat, neither as an “I told-you-so” taunt, but rather as a prefix to an “unless.”

  230. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Quoting an article, which is itself picking a headline from another article, which is not from the man himself, as if you had even read any of his material, makes you willfully dishonest.

    I don’t claim to have read his material either, but your pretending to have is obnoxious and revelatory.

    Here, I’ll do you a couple better and read the pertinent context of the article from which you derive “700 million soon”. The second-order article itself quotes Martin as saying:

    “By their own estimate, they are looking for 700 million people globally, and that would put the U.S. participation in that of the injected population as 75 million to 100 million people. . . . There are a lot of reasons why they hope it will be between now and 2028 because there is this tiny little glitch of the illiquidity of the Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid programs. So, the fewer recipients of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the better. Not surprisingly, the recommendation was people over the age of 65 were the first ones to get injected.”

    Martin doesn’t say 700 million soon. He doesn’t predict 700 million himself either. Your point is not only a lie, but two lies.

    So, Unz, how about performing that simple literacy-related action next time, “reading” before you recite bullshit convenient to your prejudiced position.

    Between you and Martin, I’ll take Martin for now, simply because I don’t yet know for a fact that he’s lying to me. You’d think of all people, a professional writer should appreciate the importance of reading.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @Anon
    , @Ron Unz
  231. Towey says:
    @Henry's Cat

    UK column is an English news program that had been sceptical of the COVID scam since the beginning.
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/

    They have had a lot of programs dealing with statistics.
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/deceptive-construction-why-we-must-question-covid-19-mortality-statistics

  232. in the 2 years preceding covid, China had massive outbreaks of animal agriculture viruses requiring them to cull most poultry and swine. A Trump cabinet member had previously advocated these types of tactics, they thought they were slick. The world military games were in Wuhan immediately prior to the outbreak, the u.s.a. fielded a team of weak losers (they weren’t there to compete). Also the media/ pharmaceutical complex was completely primed and ready to run with this, without a moment of reflection. Like 9/11, they are quite proud to shove the truth down the throats of those smart enough to figure out their crimes, and laugh in our face about never facing consequences.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  233. @Anonymous

    Because the Establishment will not condone a fulsome debate, an uncensored (by and large) website like this one is a precious resource for those of us who want to make an informed decision about the Pfizer, etc., products. I have learned much from commenters, especially those – like Kratoklastes – who somehow largely go unrefuted by Mr. Unz and the several commenters – like “John Johnson” – who would rather broadbrush or pick out the apparently weakest members of the opposing herd.

    And now I’ve learned that someone named David Martin who’s been singled out in this way may not have been fairly represented, but caricatured in a smear worthy of the mainstream newspapers that The Unz Review says can’t be trusted.

    I know nothing of David Martin’s purported prediction beyond what’s upthread. But in light of what’s preceded it, I’m certain that this comment of “Anonymous[387]” deserves a substantial reply in an intellectually honest forum.

    Waiting …

  234. Iris says:
    @Not Important

    Everyone was incentivized to play the game

    Incentivised by what exactly? Why would these Global South countries play such an unpopular game, to please the US, while the US has strictly nothing to offer them?

    How would they manage to control hundreds of millions of crisis actors worldwide?

    Name one of these countries please.

    Those countries who openly defied the US and took the great risk not to condemn the invasion of Ukraine : Belarus, Eritrea, North Korea, Syria, Algeria, Angola, Armenia, Bangladesh, Bolivia, Burundi, the Central African Republic, China, Cuba, the Republic of the Congo, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, India, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Madagascar, Mali, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Senegal, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Uganda, Vietnam and Zimbabwe.

    Between them only, China and India make 36% of the world population, so that already discards quite a lot of crisis actors. Believing that Covid is a global conspiracy is beyond common sense.

    • Agree: emersonreturn
    • Disagree: thotmonger
    • Replies: @Towey
  235. Durruti says:
    @Malla

    So Murica has only two real political parties, only two real “options”. Once side wants war with Russia and the other side wants war with China. Murica is locked in war. Either option, there is war.

    “Either option there is war.” True.

    The 2 official political gangs will support, oppose, whatever and whomever they are programmed to.

    Americans are an occupied People. We are not free. And the cost of our Liberty, is higher than we are willing to pay.

    The moments at Lexington and Concord, were our finest.

  236. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Hey Ron, are you going to respond to this? I’d love to see you actually admit you’re wrong for once.

  237. JohnSmith says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Jeffrey Sachs is also a long-time member of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He is a major promoter of the CFR/UN/WEF “sustainable development” and “population control” agenda via the Columbia/Rockefeller Earth Institute, a few blocks away from UN headquarters.

  238. @Iris

    Hello Iris,

    I have a problem to trust any statistical data. From the start I looked at those data for France, Switzerland and Geneva. All with a well developed statistical service. The most interesting case is Geneva, which is an international city with an airport and surrounded by France with no real border for the French people coming every day to work in Geneva (some 100’000). Following day by day the mortality attributed to covid, I recorded 665 deaths on the 2020.12.31. Then several months later that number was increased by more than 20. And today while checking again, it is at 656!

    https://infocovid.smc.unige.ch/

    See Tables, Cas et décès.

    Now about excess mortality: for Geneva there were only two periods with excess mortality in 2020, and ONLY for people older than 69 yo. Below 70 yo, NO excess mortality. And no excess mortality in 2021 and 2022 so far.

    For France and Switzerland, no excess mortality in 2020 below 65 yo without the injections.
    For Switzerland 2021 no excess mortalities below 65 yo.

    There is no record about the deaths caused by the lockdowns (delayed treatments, delayed diagnoses, delayed surgical operations, etc.).

    Now the big question: deaths by covid or with covid? Where are the statistical data about the co-morbidities? If someone dies with obesity + covid, or with high blood pressure + covid, or with diabetes + covid, or with cancer + covid, etc. which is the main culprit?

    The real scam are the injections. It is a machine to make money. Inefficient and dangerous, for the spike protein is toxic. It was designed to be.

    About births: Geneva :
    2020: 5,153 (while amother report by the same service says also: 4,853!).
    2021: 5,235.

    • Replies: @Iris
  239. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    At the time these books and the review appeared, the possibility that the Covid virus had an American origin had remained totally unmentionable in the Western media, but in the last few weeks this situation has suddenly changed.

    Well, Ron, Trump’s still pro vaxx as well so you’re in good company, almost as if you’re peers or something.

  240. Ron Unz says:
    @Anonymous

    Okay, I looked at the article interviewing Dr. David Martin, and here’s what I found:

    In simple terms, according to Dr. Martin, the CV19 vaccines are “bioweapons.” Big Pharma and the government knew it and also knew it would cause massive deaths and permanent injuries. Dr. Martin says, “It’s going to get much worse. . . . It is not a Corona virus vaccine. It is a spike protein instruction to make the human body produce a toxin. . . . The fact of the matter is the injections are an act of bioweapons and bioterrorism. They are not a public health measure. The facts are very simple. This was premeditated. . . . This was a campaign of domestic terror to get the public to accept the universal vaccine platform using a known biological weapon. That is their own words and not my interpretation.”

    How many will die from the CV19 bioweapons? Dr. Martin says, “By their own estimate, they are looking for 700 million people globally, and that would put the U.S. participation in that of the injected population as 75 million to 100 million people. . . . There are a lot of reasons why they hope it will be between now and 2028 because there is this tiny little glitch of the illiquidity of the Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid programs. So, the fewer recipients of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the better. Not surprisingly, the recommendation was people over the age of 65 were the first ones to get injected.”

    Dr. Martin thinks the catastrophic effects of the CV19 injections will hit the medical industry soon…Dr. Martin contends “this is far worse” than the Nuremberg trials of Nazis after WWII …

    https://usawatchdog.com/up-to-700-million-worldwide-will-die-from-cv19-vax-by-2028-dr-david-martin/

    It sure sounds to me like he’s saying that over the next few years roughly 1/4 to 1/3 of the entire American population will die from vaxxing, and that’s an intentional plan aimed at saving Social Security and Medicare costs.

    • Thanks: GMC
  241. There are many heterodox views in this thread. Not many of them are consistent with one another.

    The negations don’t usefully converge towards even a broad direction. Instead they radiate in all directions.

  242. @Ron Unz

    Singling out that blowhard David Martin is utterly disingenuous. Hellfire, how stupid do you think your readers are? Grab the bull by the horns and address what Robert Kennedy Jr. is saying about the mountain of corruption under Fauci’s stinking butt.

    Then, take a tumble with Dr. Peter McCullough, or Dr. Robert Malone. They are standing right there, waiting for trash-the-Nuremberg-Code hotshots like you to edify them why it is okay to have a Guinea Pig Planet with experimental drugs and no informed consent.

    Or to make it easier, go for the jugular, and — if you think you can — demolish “Public Health Enemy number one ” Dr. Joseph Mercola and his popular book The Truth About Covid-19: Five stars after 6,844 ratings on Amazon.

  243. GMC says:
    @Durruti

    One nuke placed offshore on that same fault line and detonated – did the trick. Except months prior to the ” accident” an Israeli company was doing work on all those reactors. The Israelis were super pissed at the Japs for having business deals with the Iranians. According to an engineer report, one the units that blew was down for repair , with the rods taken out and stored. How did that unit explode with out any ” Ammo” in the barrel? Their are other bits of evidence that this was not an accident but I won’t even try to explain. Thanks – good post !!

    • Replies: @Durruti
  244. @oughterard

    Here in Austfailia, almost as soon as CoViD appeared (in April 2020), a university in Melbourne through its Monash Biomedicine Discovery Unit, in collaboration with the Peter Doherty Institute of Infection and Immunity (a collaboration between the University of Melbourne and Royal Melbourne Hospital)announced that they had shown that ivermectin killed the virus, SARS CoV2, in vitro.
    Hardly surprising as IVM had been shown highly effective against viruses, on the bench, in recent years. But this discovery was mostly ignored, and one local ‘expert’ at the Government owned ABC Radio, quickly parodied IVM as ‘sheep dip’. He probably meant sheep ‘drench’ which seems likely. But in doing so he insulted one of the most prestigious institutes of medical research in the country as buffoons and snake oil merchants.
    Moreover, as a self-proclaimed ‘expert’, since MUCH adored by the brainwashed meanswells as he demanded more and more vaccines, boosters, lock-downs etc, he surely should have known of IVM’s true record. Four billion doses given to humans. One of the safest drugs ever, a medication included on the WHOs list of ‘essential medicines’. Yet he declares it ‘sheep dip’, and later others joined in the hate campaign against one of the most beneficial medications ever discovered.
    Same old, same old. Pfizer et al could not get Emergency Use Authority with a safe and effective alternative available, so that explains much of the later lying and slander by the ruling psychopaths and the MSM vermin. But how and why did Lord McMuck slander IVM so early on, well before any vaccines appeared? Did he invent the slur from out of his empty but arrogant head, or was he asked, or instructed, to do so? The very early attacks on IVM reek of a planned operation to me, one long plotted and organised, which explains, for me, many of the sinister developments since.

  245. @Iris

    But all this vaccine dark tale remains hypothetical, compared to the Covid disaster that is real, that has materialised and has devastated our lives for the past two years.

    Rubbish. MOST of this “disaster” was due to the response. As when a spooked ship captain runs the vessel aground after seeing shadows. (Were it only paranoia!) Small businesses crushed. Children’s education stunted. Right to worship arrested. Liberties across the board grossly violated…

    Sweden PROVED this colossal freak-out was largely unnecessary nonsense. Then all the madness denying natural immunity, omitting out-patient care, and pretending widespread vaccine failure (“breakthrough cases”) did not render the mandates and other lockdown policies all but ludicrous. Crimini. Do you work for PM Trudeau, or where have you been?

    Note: Of course, everyone wants to know where this trouble began. Many also want to know why there has been so much criminal malfeasance at the highest level in its wake.

    [MORE]



    Video Link

    p.s. I do not interact with many people these days, but I know several who have been harmed by the Covid 19 vaccine, including my mother. (RIP Mom, thank you for everything). If this juice was so harmless what are the odds of this, “all seeing” Iris?



    Video Link

  246. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Djokovic has his own, I would say, well-informed opinion. Such a creature (his opinion) is now verboten in the ‘Free World’. Forced medical intervention was outlawed at Nuremberg, in the World Health Assembly Helsinki Protocols from the 60s and in UNESCO’s Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights from the 90s.
    So fecking what? All straight down the toilet without a second’s debate, and with any who dared resist silenced, abused and pilloried. The ‘Rules Based Global Order’ in all its sordid viciousness and hypocrisy.

  247. @Ron Unz

    Okay, I looked at the article interviewing Dr. David Martin, and here’s what I found

    Well, thanks for that! I just “looked at” it, too. In fact, I read every word of what you awkwardly call the “article interviewing Dr. David Martin” in literally two minutes because it’s just a teaser.

    There is much more in the 1-hour and 3-minute interview.

    Did you “look at” the interview for the portion that’s been ellipsed in the “sure sounds to me like” passage supporting your pointless argument here?

    Me neither.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  248. @JM

    In either case you are a prime example of the claim that ‘they gassed the wrong people’.

    Hey, fair suck of the sauce bottle!

    On the one hand, from whose arse did you pluck this convenient “claim” that “they gassed the wrong people”? Such an allegation begs attribution, or lacking same, also lacks credibility (in other words, maybe you’re just projecting your own nasty sentiments).

    On the other hand, Mulga is an icon, a legend in his own lifetime, countering his general lack of sophistication with an unfailing passion for the bleedingly obvious in-your-face truth. IMO Mulga’s advocacy for China’s position in the world is 99% on target (“climate change” – not so much).

  249. Noteworthy that Jackson Hinkle, in passing, also noted that “Slav Gene Specific” pathogens were being created in American-run Ukrainian labs to be sprayed in aerosols across Eastern Ukraine. rumble.com/v1c7349-the-great-reset-has-arrived.html
    I’m sure Israelis are searching for much more elusive Arab-specific genes for the Palestinians (and Iranians).
    Probably the easiest populations to target are the Han Chinese and the Ashkenazi Jews, who are inviting biowarfare retribution as are Biden and his neocons.
    Bioweapons are not rocket science. There are huge numbers of molecular biologists throughout the world (many trained in the US), the vast majority with tenuous jobs. If convinced their people are under attack, they could be convinced to do untold damage with a just a modicum of creativity and effort.

  250. Durruti says:
    @GMC

    How did that unit explode with out any ” Ammo” in the barrel? Their are other bits of evidence that this was not an accident but I won’t even try to explain.

    with the rods taken out and stored. How did that unit explode with out any ” Ammo” in the barrel?

    Reminds of Building 7. How did that building collapse? It was not hit by any plane.

    *ironically, Nuclear Energy, which is the dirtiest & most dangerous of all energy, is hyped as Clean energy by many ‘environmentalists.’

    Worth an Article – here, or somewhere.

    • Replies: @GMC
  251. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    This morning, I finally watched the entire Dr. David Martin vid that you provided. Not impressed. His bold claim of huge coming increases in death related to the engineered-spike (700 million worldwide and 75 – 100 million in the U.S.) is not substantiated, at all, within this vid. Martin’s specific claim is that Big Pharma and the government, as per their own communications, is claiming this huge level of engineered-spike death, but after watching the vid, I still have no clue how to even begin to put it together like that ….. what specific communications? His interviewer is useless (Martin keeps making unsubstantiated claims about a variety of things and the interviewer does not stop and ask the appropriate questions ….. like: ‘where is your evidence precisely, for that bold claim?’).

    How do we know that Martin is not just a law-grifter? (the law profession has alot of these types, grifters, also known as ‘ambulance-chasers’, looking around for a tragedy that they can get blamesy about, so as to hopefully win some lawsuits that will enrich their law firm). Now I am not saying that, that for sure, is what is going on with Martin, but he certainly doesn’t do anything within that interview (or even within the supposed internet links he mentions, …. I still don’t know what he means about his ‘Darwinian Chemical Systems’ claims at around 19:00 of the vid, after looking around for it by way of google-search) to dispel that first impression. He sounds like Lin Wood (if you get my drift, … Lin Wood was unhelpful to Trump’s efforts to prove election malfeasance).

    Does anybody know, exactly, what the document jigsaw puzzle is, that Martin claims exists, that would substantiate his claims, beyond his vague claims that the U.S. government owns some controversial biotech patents? Like maybe these patents he alludes to are some kind of smoking gun, but in the interview, he did not come anywhere close to outlining precisely how that claim would work.

    As far as immunologic or metabolic pathways towards a potential substantiation of Martin’s bold claims, …. there is more than one such potential pathway. Geert Vanden Bossche is making claims about the potential for vaxx-induced increased virus virulence. But I think even that claim, would be very controversial to claim, in terms of a permanence of the immunologic changes resulting from the vaxxing program, among the vaccinated, … i.e. – why wouldn’t these vaxx-induced immunologic changes revert to baseline, after several months vaxx/booster-free?

    Anyways, I did outline a bit about the two obvious potential immunologic or metabolic pathways towards a potential substantiation of Martin’s bold claims (1 – by way of vaxx-induced pathogensis related to it’s different mode of cell entry – i.e.. – the nanolipid delivery mechanism; and 2 – by way of vaxx-induced increased virus virulence) but with the proviso, that I don’t think either mode, to my mind, ends up at 700 million deaths related to the engineered-spike. Here is that outline, as I provided last night in another thread (where Mr. Unz suggested such discussion should be posted):

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/covid-vaccinations-and-oxitecs-flying-syringes/#comment-5441282

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  252. Please be careful and stay safe. If they cannot silence you, they might do something worst.

  253. Ron Unz says:
    @Greta Handel

    Well, thanks for that! I just “looked at” it, too. In fact, I read every word of what you awkwardly call the “article interviewing Dr. David Martin” in literally two minutes because it’s just a teaser.

    Well, another commenter bothered watching Martin’s hour-long talk and was very unimpressed.

    Here’s another question for all the anti-vaxxers clogging up this comment-thread. If vaxxing is so dangerous, and such a large fraction of America’s population has now been vaxxed and even boosted, why isn’t any of this reflected in the monthly death rates?

    If you go to this CDC page and select monthly aggregation, you’ll see they’ve dropped over the last few months and are now back down to what they had been during early 2020 just before the Covid epidemic:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

    For example, these were the monthly totals back then, with the April spike marking the start of the epidemic:

    Jan-20 264,638
    Feb-20 244,895
    Mar-20 269,750
    Apr-20 322,392

    And here are the most recently totals:

    Dec-21 320,000
    Jan-22 358,332
    Feb-22 282,376
    Mar-22 258,005
    Apr-22 235,906
    May-22 231,236

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  254. GMC says:
    @Durruti

    Fukushima was the Covid mRNA jab done to the Pacific Ocean and all their sealife. Alaskan here – fished from the Chukchi Sea to Cook inlet in all my 3 decades+ and the salmon fisheries were decimated, much less the other fisheries. The Stupid Federal Fish and feathers stopped all arial wolf hunting, so the moose and caribou populations were decimated – The plan to kill off humanity , includes the death and destruction of the plant, animal, seas and anything else they can kill.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  255. Anon[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’ve spent enough time looking into Flu Hoaxery and anti-Vaxxery to conclude that they’re mostly nonsense.

    In every single thread, you literally say you don’t care about this issue and haven’t even looked into it. So which is it then?

    • Agree: Greta Handel, Kali
  256. Iris says:
    @Olivier1973

    I have a problem to trust any statistical data.

    Hello Olivier. My views are influenced by my having family, social and professional links to countries outside Western Europe.

    Looking at the problem from a top down approach, I can’t see how the statistics could have been outrageously faked, because Covid was global. Inflating the death toll could have been possible with the complicity of every country providing their stats. But in the current global geopolitical jail break situation, this is a completely unrealistic assumption.

    Just look at, say, Mali, a country destroyed by decades-long (((ISIS))) terrorism, which now openly relies on Russia’s Wagner to prop up its government. Why would these people walk along a US-led, crime-against-humanity-grade conspiracy?

    Now, the bottom-up approach. In the emerging countries I visit, unlike the West, conspiratorially-minded people challenge the vaccines, their content, their efficiency, their purpose even with all these talks of nanochips, but they never challenge Covid’s lethality, simply because everybody knows somebody young enough and healthy enough who has died of it.

    Finally, the personal approach. In my extended family, including the in-laws, we lost 3 people to Covid who should not have died, as they were 55, 59 and 64 years, and all healthy. (Only the 59-year had started having a slight diabetes).

    Retrospectively, the common denominator between them is that having no previous health worries and leading very busy lives, none of them took the time to rest after they’d had the first bout of Covid. They went back to their activities pretty quickly, but suddenly and unexpectedly developed acute respiratory problems which required immediate hospitalisation, and then passed away soonly afterwards.

    My doctor relatives say that this happens because the viral load can increase undetected until a critical point is reached, even in healthy individuals.

    Covid-denial is a purely Western trait, it is a suspicion fostered I think by the fact that many of our respective governments decided no to treat the Covid patients. (There are exceptions: I remember you dislike Pr Raoult, but him at least looked after the ill).

    In the emerging countries I travelled to during 2020, doctors would visit and treat Covid patients, they would freely use hydro chloroquine, Ivermectin, and antibiotics, but they still lost healthy patients to Covid. This is why they are past this conspiracy; their statistics are imperfect but most likely genuine. With best regards.

    • Replies: @thotmonger
    , @Olivier1973
    , @Anon
  257. @Ron Unz

    Well, “another commenter” happens to be Wild Man, who’s also been fruitlessly challenging your fallacious, petulant attacks on “all the anti-vaxxers clogging up this comment-thread.” See his #126, upthread, for one of the best. His #257 that you’ve goldboxed is also instructive for its intellectual rigor and honesty.

    Your work on provenance has been valuable, but the needless disparagement of so many of us on the issue of the Establishment responses – and, in particular, the treatments about which you’re so proudly uninformed — adds nothing to your efforts. What are you trying to accomplish? To convince those of us who’ve foregone the shot(s) to now roll up our sleeves?

  258. Durruti says:
    @GMC

    The plan to kill off humanity , includes the death and destruction of the plant, animal, seas and anything else they can kill.

    The ARK – once again? The Excuse – Their Yahweh ordered it?

    Not sure. While the Oligarchs appear to be quite murderous/bloodthirsty, — What is in it for them? Are they stupid? shortsighted?

    Their motive is usually, Profit \$\$\$. Good old Greed!

    If so, then they might not wish to kill all, but, maybe just enough to ease the population density. Where would the wealthy be – with no servants, with no Middle Class – to look up to them, worship them, follow them, feed them, provide them with young men & women for their pleasure?

    Not sure of their – Rothschilds, Rockefellers, DuPonts, Morgans, and a few dozen more of the most powerful Money Changers, motives, wishes, views. Not sure you (and others) are incorrect.

    What would you wish for, if you were a Baron Rothschild? Why do their completely controlled Nations continue Sanctions & Wars against other Nations they do not completely control (assuming there are Nations they do not completely control/dominate)?

    What would you wish for? What do they want? Do they know/understand what they want? Are they driven by psychological impulses? Why did they kill the Kennedys & so many other less-compliant Political/Economic Leaders/families?

    If the Dominant group of Oligarchs just wish Power/Wealth, they may be resisted.

    If they wish to destroy all, except 2 of every specie, they are even more dangerous and more difficult to oppose.

    Either way, I remain:

    For the Democratic Republic!

    Dr. Peter J. Antonsen – nom de guerre, Durruti

    • Thanks: emerging majority
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @GMC
  259. S0S says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    There was an interview of Joseph Needham in 1987 where he was specifically asked about allegations of “American” “Bacteriological Warfare” in the Korean War.

    You had mentioned this in a Disqus comment in a Blacklisted News reprint of the Zero Hedge article: Chinese Scientists Find Coronavirus Did Not Originate In Wuhan Seafood Market [Published: Feb 23, 2020] with a link that leads to an Imperial War Museum (IWM) page that contains a recoding of the 1987 interview.

    British civilian scientist in China, 1942-1946 and investigator of germ warfare allegations during Korean War, 1952mp3 audio of Joseph Needham interview on US Bioweapons in Korea War (relevent part starts at min 12:40)

    In the Audio recording (starting at 12min 40seconds) – Question by Conrad Wood (of IWM):

    Coming on to the the Korean War, could I ask you about your contact with the controversy that there was at that time about the allegations of American use of Bacteriological Warfare in Korea?

    Answer by Joseph Needham:

    Well, I firmly believe in that.

    The discussion on this subject carries on for another 7 minutes or so.

    • Thanks: Godfree Roberts
  260. JamesinNM says:

    Review Dr David E Martin’s patent search evidence on Covid and the so-called Covid vaccines.

  261. Ron Unz says:

    I’ve pleased to say that my podcast video interviews on the likely biowarfare origins of the Covid epidemic recently broke 700,000 views, a very encouraging development:

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/#podcast-interviews

    However, I still find it utterly mind-boggling that despite the almost overwhelming evidence—and Prof. Jeffrey Sachs’s recent public declaration of an American origin—after more than two years I’m still virtually alone in discussing this tremendously important issue.

  262. @Iris

    Just look at, say, Mali, a country destroyed by decades-long (((ISIS))) terrorism, which now openly relies on Russia’s Wagner to prop up its government. Why would these people walk along a US-led, crime-against-humanity-grade conspiracy?

    Umm, because the banks have them by the nards and they do not want to become the next Libya? And since NATO nations are all behind this Great Reset, the message is abundantly clear: play or fry.

    Meanwhile, you are telling us that there is indeed a conspiracy (a released GMO ala USA), just not one where any country would cook the books in the direction to foment FEAR. Ha. But is Mali all up in arms about your version? Make up your mind.

    p.s. I take the middle ground where the origins of Covid 19 are clearly suspect but the global criminal malfeasance in its wake is certain. Here Dr. Peter McCullough speaks to this:

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter
    • LOL: Iris
  263. @Durruti

    As we can see, if we open our eyes, the planet is in the midst of the sixth great mass extinction event. Biodiversity is crashing. Sixty percent of the remaining large land herbivores (not counting cattle, sheep etc raised by humans)have disappeared in the last forty years. Ninety percent of large pelagic fish have gone. The insect apocalypse rolls on, despite it being KNOWN the neonicotinoid pesticides are largely responsible. Industrial agriculture continues to destroy soils and biodiversity. The hideous poison glyphosate is present in human tissues almost everywhere.
    The global climate is rapidly destabilising. Tropical coral reefs and temperate kelp forests are being destroyed, as are sea-grass meadows and mangroves. And on and on, ALL caused by capitalist neoplasticity working as intended. Destroy EVERYTHING by profiting from it as a commodity, and turn it into money, so that you can sit upon the highest pile in the howling desert to come-very soon. The oligarchs are cancer metastases-they know no other way of being but expansion, consumption and waste extrusion.

  264. Athena says:
    @Durruti

    6 hours before the Fukushima catastrophe happened, the creation of a bank between Russia and Japan (first bank ever created between R and J) was announced on the site of Goldman Sachs (emergingmarkets.me) (and on their Facebook page).

    The announce disappeared the next day, and briefly reappeared in September of the same year.

    Also, about 1 week before the catastrophe happened, the US soldiers parked in Okinawa left and moved to Hawai’i.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  265. Durruti says:
    @Athena

    the Fukushima catastrophe

    There have been many important topics written & discussed on this website, and the fate of the Fukushima, and all other Nuclear facilities, is among the most important.

    The better Nuclear energy plants may be decommissioned and buried when they are no longer able to safely function. But, unlike the Coal or Oil fired facilities, the area Nuclear plants are buried in, (covered with earth), cannot be used for thousands of years.

    Additionally, the workers who unassemble – decommission a Nuclear facility must be clothed in heavy Lead Lined (look like Spacesuits) coverings as they do their work. They work with difficulty, and can only labor at the site for 2 hours at a shift. Nuclear power was never a good (safe) idea.

    My guess is that much of the fear mongering about ‘global warmingtoo much carbon in the atmosphere, etc., is financed by the profiteer owners of the Nuclear Power Establishment.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  266. @Iris

    I understand where you’re coming from but there are simply too many bad actors involved for me to trust anything that is touched by what we in the past used to put our faith in. These institutions have become so politicized or warped, due to outside and inside agents, that it’s a constant slog to sift through all of the lies and shit in order to pluck out the diamonds. What I see is that those who are demonized are probably “over the target” and more likely correct.

  267. GMC says:
    @Durruti

    The Eastern multi polar part of the planet wants to keep as much sovereignty and social cultures alive and well as possible. The Western One World Order wishes to kill as many as they can, and control everything on the planet – it’s rather obvious now.

    If we are indeed looking at another catastrophic cosmic event headed our way { and we are due for one} then we can see that the lines are drawn, with respect to the West – they wish to own the entire planet – after the Big Event , whereas the Eastern part wishes to continue a multi polar civilization. This scenario has to be included in the big picture, but of course we the people have no access to all the space research and as usual – won’t ever have access until the East or West – cough it up. my 2 rubles worth.

  268. @Durruti

    Do you not think that massive heatwaves across the northern hemisphere, and myriad other climate and weather disasters indicate that anthropogenic climate destabilisation might just, possibly, be worth getting fearful over?

    • Replies: @Durruti
  269. @saggy

    WIII, the continuation of WWII, itself the consequence of WWI, has been under way for some time. It will get omnicidal soon. Don’t forget that many in the USA, including in the power elite, are slavering for the End Times. Giving it a push along is a religious obligation for these psychopaths. It was always going to end this way, since Alamogordo.The Fermi Paradox resolved.

  270. @JM

    Having looked Noel Ignatief up, I find that he does not propose ideas with which I can agree. The problem is not ‘Whiteness’, whatever that is, but the ‘White’, Western, imperial and neo-imperial elites, the owners of Western societies. Blaming ALL ‘Whites’ for the sins of the Masters, many of Ignatief’s own ethnicity, is simply a ‘Divide and Rule’ tactic. As for China, I always wished that I had been born Russian or Chinese, but Austfailian is not a bad third place, even as it sinks into the shite.

  271. Moderna and Pfizer/Biontec came out with sequences for the initial vaxxes for SARS-Cov-2 withing a couple days, but they are struggling to find sequences weeks after things like Omicron crop up.

    Yeah, sounds like a plandemic gone awry.

    • Replies: @S0S
    , @S0S
  272. Athena says:
    @Durruti

    The Fukushima nuclear power plants had a basic design mistake.

    The emergency generators were installed in the BASEMENT of the plants.

    The plants melted down because the sea wave that flooded the generators ALSO flooded their backup, which disappeared under the water.

    The backup generator of the main generator in a nuclear power plant built next to the sea shouldn’t be located in the basement.

    That’s a design error.

  273. @Ron Unz

    With how fast the control of reddit was taken, and even more so, 4 chan. Nothing is out of reach.

    I think they are content with letting this website live as long as you don’t reach out of the comfort zone. Like the covid series. And who takes over after you are gone Mr. Unz? no one. I honestly do not see a future for any sort of truth in the future.

    The way the American public is being controlled looks like an exact replica of game theory. It is amazing how the red and blues are being kept from having real discussions through lies and echo chambers. I can’t blame the public as it is all they know. The internet gate keepers are keeping it that way. MSM is without a question also. So is education, especially higher ED.

    You are the only one talking about it because deep down they all know this truth cannot get out. It will get super, super ugly if it does. They will only support your theory if the finger points at China, not American labs.

  274. JackOH says:

    Have we had any sort of white paper at all about COVID-19 put out by any responsible mainstream entity within the United States addressed to a popular audience? Something with a title like: COVID-19: Origins, the Public Health Response, Conclusions and Recommendations. (I’m sure there’s a title with better snap and pop.)

    I’m not a student of COVID, but, AFAIK, we haven’t had anything forthcoming—not even a bureaucratic whitewash/CYA job.

    Have I missed something?

  275. Durruti says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Do you not think that massive heatwaves across the northern hemisphere, and myriad other climate and weather disasters indicate that anthropogenic climate destabilisation might just, possibly, be worth getting fearful over?

    One may be afraid of many things.

    In the case of ‘global warming,’ the advertised cure (Nuclear energy), might be worse than the disease.

    [MORE]

    You are implying a disagreement about (a denial of) the huge dangers of Nuclear Energy, of the disasters at Fukushima, Chernobyl, and the near disaster at Three Mile Island, among numerous other dangers and ‘accidents’ at other Nuclear facilities, and the danger of Nuclear Radiation. Do you deny the tragedy of the huge disaster at Fukushima, of 5 Nuclear Energy Plants, constructed next to each other – in a row (on top of the worst fault line on the planet)? The Japanese Leaders (and General Electric) have given up on fashioning any method of containment of the melted down Radioactive cores, and their waste, – – which is flowing into the Pacific.

    They just flush it into the ocean. The radiation is also leaking into the Earth (as the Facilities were
    not built on a stable land foundation). Do you deny that?

    *[interestingly, the Russian Government offered to help the Japanese decommission the Nuclear Plants, but the Japanese Government refused the offer.]

    Problems with ‘global warming,’ even if real, do not necessitate our ignoring other problems, such as low quality Hollywood Movies, AND THE REAL DANGER OF RELYING UPON NUCLEAR ENERGY.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  276. anaccount says:

    Okay, we get it. When it comes to the so called pandemic, your singular focus on the origins of Covid have garnered some attention. We would have liked your take on other aspects but given your dismissal of anything outside the official message (aside from origins) I’m a lot less interested. This bioweapon has reshaped our world and you’re still focused on how it began. You should get with the times.

  277. @JackOH

    Have I missed something?

    Apparently, ## 189, 192. Why did you get the shot(s), when was your last, and what do you now think of your decision(s)?

  278. @Athena

    The tsunami itself was most probably the deliberate action of some currently unidentified power which embedded a nuke deeply into the substrate underlying one of Japans many fault zones, specifically as a part of a much older than we realize “Great Reset” on behalf of the financier elite and whichever the force may be which calls their shots.

    Simply stated: The Fukushima (Fuck You Shima, ironically, but by intent) was totally deliberate with malice aforethought.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Athena
  279. geokat62 says:

    … while the Economist has estimated that “excess deaths” may be closer to twenty million.

    Speaking of twenty million lives, here’s the introductory and concluding paragraphs to Imperial fantasy of 20 million lives saved:

    Imperial College has produced a new fantasy number to test people’s gullibility. This time they are claiming that 19.8 million lives have been saved by vaccination…

    [Imperial College] are living in Cloud-Covid-Land. The public need to realise that institutions such as Imperial receive considerable funding from the pharmaceutical industry and this colours how evidence is presented. The mainstream media are claiming such evidence is “science” when it is not much more than marketing for the pharmaceutical industry. The chasm between reality and the mainstream narrative is widening and the public need to realise that sources they have trusted in the past cannot be trusted on this topic any longer.

    https://www.hartgroup.org/imperial-fantasy-of-20-million-lives-saved/

    • Thanks: Kali
  280. @Iris

    Hello Iris,

    Thanks a lot for your detailed reply. Much food for thought.

    About Mali, to this day I see less deaths than in Geneva alone:

    [MORE]

    https://coronavirus.politologue.com/coronavirus-mali.ML

    About Geneva, here is the detailed statistical data by month and by age (below or above 65 yo).

    https://statistique.ge.ch/sante_covid19/welcome.asp

    No excess death below 65 over the whole period. Over 64 yo: March-Avril and October-November-December 2020. You will notice that from January 2021, the number of deaths of people over 64 yo is rather low, closer to the bottom of expected deaths for every month. As if the toll was taken earlier with the virus. But again no information about co-morbities, when it was said from the start that several co-morbidities were putting people at serious risk.

    It is clear that we are influenced by our personal experience, especially by the fate of people we know. I am sorry to read about your relatives. My condoleances.

    My own experience with relatives is quite different. Except coughing, nothing serious. One person even discovered that he was infected while taking part to one study. He had covid antibodies, but he does not know when he was contaminated. No symptoms at all. Another person got the virus, stayed 10 days at home when his condition deteriorated and had to go to the hospital. He refused everything (hcq, antivirus) except antibiotics. The first one did not work. They changed it, he recovered quickly. The person who stayed at home with him, was not contaminated. I know nobody who died from the virus. Treatment was carried after open discussions with the patient.

    You write that your relatives were healthy. OK. But what for instance about their immune system? Were they injected (see below)? ADE? Why the unusual load of viruses? How about stress (from a “very busy life”)? Stress diminishes immunity. Also I don’t undestand how it is possible to have been contaminated and not to stay at home isolated.

    What about some genetical traits? It was said for instance that blood group zero were better protected than the others. There could be other genetical factors influencing the outcome.

    Raoult looked first of all about himself. He made a PR campaign about himself. And his studies were exposed as frauds. He did not have better results in Marseille than in the rest of France. He said many stupidities such as the epidemy will be finished after May 2020 with no new wave being possible. Currently he is out, and he is for once saying currently more reasonable things.

    “Does vaccination serve any purpose? The answer is no”.

    https://www.ladepeche.fr/2022/01/08/covid-19-omicron-didier-raoult-se-lache-est-ce-que-la-vaccination-sert-a-quelque-chose-la-reponse-est-non-10034010.php

    Marseille compared to the rest of France

    https://coronavirus.politologue.com/carte-de-france/

    My questions: why in Geneva no excess mortality all ages concerned from January 2021? Standard of living? Treatments?

    Also the excess 2020 deaths in Geneva are not all explained by covid. Part of the excess deaths have another explanation. But no data for those.

    Another experience: a friend go two Moderna injections (blackmail). He got Omicron (while thinking being protected…). He was more seriously ill for one week than people injected several months earlier or not injected.

    A last word: the spike protein is toxic. It links to the ACE2 enzyme which regulates the blood pressure (downwards). One friend after 3 injections got 19 when he did never had high blood pressure before. Another friend had a stroke after a Pfizer booster. The mRNA is a scam. They could have chosen a non toxic proteine of that virus. One envelope protein for instance is even more antigenic. Now the S protein of Omicron has 32 mutations which make the virus less lethal. The injections which trigger the building of the original S protein are criminal. Follow the money track.

    Best wishes.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Ron is Right
    , @xcd
  281. Backward says:

    When you think Unz is at last talking about the environment and then you realise that’s like expecting a dog to quack.

  282. MEH 0910 says:
    @Ron Unz

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-07/09/c_1310051650.htm

    U.S. publisher rejects random lab-leak theory of COVID-19
    Source: Xinhua | 2021-07-09

    Existential evidence suggested the possibility of a coronavirus biowarfare attack launched by Washington more than the lab-leak theory, said Ron Unz in a review article published on the Unz Review website in late May.

    WASHINGTON, July 9 (Xinhua) — The outbreak of COVID-19 is less likely to be the result of a lab leak than a biowarfare attack, a U.S. publisher has said in a recent article.

    Existential evidence suggested the possibility of a coronavirus biowarfare attack launched by Washington more than the lab-leak theory, said Ron Unz in a review article published on the Unz Review website in late May.

    China had been hit by various viruses right when the country was locked in a growing conflict with America for years, noted Unz, the website’s editor-in-chief and publisher.

    Additionally, the outbreak of COVID-19 “appeared at the worst time and place for China,” referring to the Lunar New Year holiday with a travel rush, and the major transit hub of Wuhan in central China with a huge volume of passengers, said Unz, who believes the timing of the emergence of COVID-19 is “suspicious.”

    “300 American military servicemen had just visited Wuhan as part of the Military World Games, providing a perfect opportunity for releasing a viral weapon,” he noted, calling the scenario “a strange coincidence.”

    “The characteristics of COVID-19, including high communicability and low lethality, are absolutely ideal in an anti-economy bioweapon,” Unz said, adding it’s odd to speculate that a Chinese lab would release a virus perfectly designed to damage the Chinese economy. ■

    Also posted at:

    https://www.beijingbulletin.com/news/270226547/us-publisher-rejects-random-lab-leak-theory-of-covid-19

    http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202107/09/WS60e7e416a310efa1bd660dc6.html

    https://asiapost.live/u-s-publisher-rejects-random-lab-leak-theory-of-covid-19/

    https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/u-s-publisher-rejects-random-lab-leak-theory-of-covid-19/

    • Thanks: Olivier1973, JackOH, Ron Unz
    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  283. Towey says:
    @Iris

    The COVID scam was to cause a global recession to defer the implosion of the debt based financial system by strengthening the dollar and has been wildly successful in this regard.
    The stick used by the bankers to get EVERY SINGLE GOVERNMENT to destroy their national economies through lockdowns and the UNPRECEDENTED, COORDINATED CLOSURE of national fronteirs was the unimaginable consequences of the sudden implosion of the debt based financial system.
    The bankers had lost faith in the system in September 2019 and in the absence of a convenient war and probably lacking time to devise a false flag, the threat of a pandemic because of a mortal virus which Gates was conveniently rehearsing at the time was seized on as a means of achieving that end.
    Even if you believe in the existence of viruses, which I don’t, since when have viral infections been lethal?
    I remember taking my children to the doctors in the eighties with a slight temperature and a runny nose and the doctor would diagnose a viral infection that would pass and there was nothing they could do about it
    Frankly, I am amazed they got away with such an obvious scam.

  284. JackOH says:
    @MEH 0910

    If a big news agency had picked up some of my locally published writing, I’d probably be happier than a pig in shit for a while. Then I’d start worrying about the target on my back.

    Stay safe, Ron.

  285. @MEH 0910

    The bio-warfare attack by the USA on China was firmly fixed in my mind from the start simply because it is the sort of atrocity that the psychopaths in Thanatopolis DC would do, and have done. But the gene therapy injections add a new dimension of horror, that is difficult to resile with the original abomination.

  286. @Durruti

    I’m with you, old boy. I’m against nukes. The nuclear boondoggle is simply a device to derail renewables, fusion if it really is safe, and any new technology to be invented, all to the benefit of fossil fuels. Let’s face it-the same capitalist pigs who own fossil fuels, also own nuclear, and the banks that under-write both. One quibble-I think Fukushima is adjacent to the big fault-line that went off on 11 March, 2011, 72 km offshore. Mind you there are other nukes in Japan built ON or adjacent to faults and volcanoes, but the Imperial revanchist, fascist, Jap regime wants plutonium for future nuclear weapons purposes.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  287. @JackOH

    Another ‘mystery’ is why NO hospital, medical centre or medical body has offered ANY treatment protocol for the infection, save for the Frontline Covid Care Clinicians (FLCCC) who have been pilloried, censored, silenced and slandered for using ivermectin and other repurposed medications and achieving notably positive results. Meanwhile the medical Mafias and the regulatory stooges of BigPharma promote poisonous, useless, remdesivir, and lethal intubation and ventilation.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Thanks: JackOH
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  288. Athena says:
    @emerging majority

    I agree 100%.

    Just 3 weeks after the Fukushima catastrophe, Canada’s PM Stephen Harper (main backer of the Maidan and Ukrainian nazis at the time) was the first to go to Japan to sign contracts to repair the generators and the electric distribution system.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
  289. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    In the emerging countries I travelled to during 2020, doctors would visit and treat Covid patients, they would freely use hydro chloroquine, Ivermectin, and antibiotics, but they still lost healthy patients to Covid. This is why they are past this conspiracy; their statistics are imperfect but most likely genuine.

    A most lucid argument for repeal of the 19th Amendment, thank you.

  290. oppo says:
    @saggy

    ITS NEAR TO WORLD WAR 3 , Now Ukraine , Next is Taiwan

  291. S0S says:
    @The Alarmist

    Moderna and Pfizer/Biontec came out with sequences for the initial vaxxes for SARS-Cov-2 withing a couple days, but they are struggling to find sequences weeks after things like Omicron crop up.

    According to the CDC Director it was not “a couple of days”.

    Question: Is it safe to say that, in terms of an anti-viral approach of vaccine therapeutic diagnostics, there’s never been anything like this?

    Answer: Oh for sure. . . . You know, I don’t like the word “Warp Speed” – because it makes it look like you’re carelessly rushing, but, to do things in the way we’ve done right now, is truly remarkable.

    It’s remarkable for somebody, unlike me, who’s been doing this now for forty years, and have been involved in the development of vaccines back when we had a – you know – get the pathogen, isolate it, grow it up, then activate it, attenuate yada yada ya.

    Here, you know the sequence came out on the database on January 10th. I called a meeting . . . of our people saying, “Hey, let’s go, all hands on deck. We got to start developing a vaccine. The next day we had a meeting by phone with Moderna, put it into the mRNA. Now we’re on the 15th . . . five days have gone by; amazing.

    Sixty two days later we were in a phase one trial. And then, five months later, we’re going to start a phase three trial at the end of July. That’s mind-boggling. That’s orders of magnitude more quickly than we were doing a decade ago.

    It appears it was 5 days for Moderna.

    (90 seconds video excerpt) – Jul 17, 2020: TWiV 641: COVID-19 with Dr. Anthony Fauci

  292. S0S says:
    @The Alarmist

    The website’s software auto changes the link.

    This should work if pasted into a browser window: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Vy6fgaBPE&t=1677s

  293. So how do those proponents of the lab leak theory deal with the finding of three other very similar bat corona virues found in Laos as reported in February of 2022 in this paper published in Nature?

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04532-4

    From the paper’s abstract:

    Here we show that such viruses circulate in cave bats living in the limestone karstic terrain in northern Laos, in the Indochinese peninsula. We found that the receptor-binding domains of these viruses differ from that of SARS-CoV-2 by only one or two residues at the interface with ACE2, bind more efficiently to the hACE2 protein than that of the SARS-CoV-2 strain isolated in Wuhan from early human cases, and mediate hACE2-dependent entry and replication in human cells, which is inhibited by antibodies that neutralize SARS-CoV-2. None of these bat viruses contains a furin cleavage site in the spike protein. Our findings therefore indicate that bat-borne SARS-CoV-2-like viruses that are potentially infectious for humans circulate in Rhinolophus spp. in the Indochinese peninsula.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  294. Ron Unz says:
    @Mark Hunter

    One crank doesn’t make the reputable “anti-vaxxers” disappear (to use the smear term for those critical of the Covid shots). That’s obvious as well. Addressing the worst proves nothing, address the better instead.

    Well, I was just trading emails in the last couple of days with a fairly prominent alternative podcaster who’s an anti-vaxxer, and he says he has the highest regard for “Dr. David Martin.”

    So apparently lots of anti-vaxxers really do believe that 700 million people worldwide—including maybe 1/3 of all Americans—will soon be dead from vaxxing.

    • Troll: Greta Handel
  295. @S0S

    Don’t you think differentiation between “a couple days” and “five days” is a bit “deckchairs on the Titanic” ?

    • Replies: @S0S
  296. @Ron Unz

    So apparently lots of anti-vaxxers really do believe that 700 million people worldwide—including maybe 1/3 of all Americans—will soon be dead from vaxxing.

    Of course not. These deaths will be attributable to “suddenly” and “other unknown causes.”

    • Agree: Adam Smith
  297. @peterAUS

    This is off-topic, but I couldn’t find a way to reply to:

    https://vk.com/@739151204-viewing-telegram-and-twitter-channels-without-an-account-in

    Thanks a lot, Peter. I saw that on MoA Jul 15 2022 15:21 utc | 21, but couldn’t find how to reply to that specific post.

    This UNZ website is great. Everything just works!

  298. @Ron Unz

    It depends on what you call a ‘vaccine’, ie do experimental gene therapy injections qualify as vaccines. And on how ‘anti’ you are ie do you approve of some types of vaccines from the buffet of mRNA, adenovirus vector, attenuated virus plus adjuvants, dead virus plus adjuvants or proteon-based vaccines (I’m sure there are others I an unaware of).
    And do you approve of the vaccination method ie the almost universal lack of aspiration before injection, for decades a no-no, but now de rigeur, risking injection into the circulation, NOT muscle? And do you approve of experimental gene therapy injections for those not at risk, ie anyone under seventy and in good health, and particularly children? And do you approve of mass vaccination during an epidemic, causing vaccine escape and the proliferation of more infectious types, then, probably, more virulent ones, through selective pressure? And do you approve of vaccinations when the tsunami of adverse reactions is being suppressed or denied? And do you approve of the ruthless suppression of re-purposed medication eg HCQ, IVM and fluvoxamine etc, simply to get EUA from corrupted US ‘regulators’ and to protect BigPharma vaccine mega-profits? And do you approve of nine-monthly ‘boosters’ as is now the regulation in Chrystia Freeland’s Canderastan? ETC. Here, of course ‘you’ is a general term. You, and I and Me are my preferred pronouns, by the way.

  299. @davidgmillsatty

    ‘None of the bat viruses contains a furin cleavage site in the spike protein’???!!! Let’s see if they infect humans as readily as did SARS CoV2, as if to the manner ‘born’.

  300. @S0S

    And Moderna apparently told potential investors that its gene therapy injections were to be given YEARLY. We didn’t hear about that, we The Great Unwashed, now did we. One shot and you’re safe, cannot pass it on, and will live happily ever after-that didn’t last long, did it?

    • Replies: @Athena
  301. S0S says:
    @The Alarmist

    Don’t you think differentiation between “a couple days” and “five days” is a bit “deckchairs on the Titanic” ?

    The “5 days” information posted is to supposed to back up the claim that the sequences for the initial “vaccinations” for “SARS-Cov-2” came out within days of the genetic sequence publication.

    [MORE]

    On March 20, 2020 – Mark Zuckerberg was live on facebook with Dr. Anthony Fauci : https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/10111683294466031/?t=1325

    Fauci:

    If this were 10, 15, 20 years ago, and it was for any vaccine that you wanted to make, you would say a vaccine, from the time you start, to time it’s approved to be safe and effective is several years. 5, 6, 7 years. That’s unacceptable for now.

    So that what happened, is that as soon as we got the sequence of the virus from the Chinese, we pulled it out of the public database, and stuck the gene into a vaccine platform, and worked on it literally within a day of when it came out.

    65 days later, namely 2 days ago, we gave the first injection to a normal volunteer for a Phase 1 trial to see if it’s safe. That’s the fastest it’s ever been done. That’s the good news. The challenging news is that, even at that rocket speed, it’s going to take a few months to show that the initial safety is OK.

    Then you go into a phase 2 trial, which instead of involving 45 people, which we have on the Phase 1 trial, it involves hundreds if not thousands of people. That will take another 6 to 8 months to even know if it works. So at the fastest we can go, it’s going to take a year to a year and a half to know if we have a vaccine that we can use. So . . . if we cycle to another season, that’s when the vaccine is going to be very relevant.

    So perhaps it was “within a day.”

    Stephen Hoge (president of Moderna) – Turns out, designing a COVID vaccine was easy :

    Using the SARS-CoV-2 virus’s genetic sequence, which had been publicly released just days earlier by Chinese scientist Yong-Zhen Zhang, PhD, Hoge and his team inserted two mutations from MERS (the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, caused by a cousin of SARS-CoV-2), into the novel coronavirus’s sequence. This created a tiny piece of SARS-CoV-2’s spike protein to alert the immune system to kill any invading viruses armed with that protein.

    We did it in an hour, and it worked brilliantly,” says Hoge, who joined Moderna as head of drug invention in 2012 and was named president in 2015.

    Or maybe even “in an hour.”

    In all cases, “a couple of days” is not an exaggeration.

    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  302. @mulga mumblebrain

    Some elderly in, laws of mine who both caught Covid recently eere grateful that the qualified for the latest antivirals, restricted for some reason – maybe scarcity (so 30 year old Aborigines rank with obese white 60 year olds, or something like that).

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  303. Iris says:

    Doing some quick research, the following came up that must be put to Pr Jeffrey Sachs’ credit, and also might be indicative that suspicions had long been discussed within the Lancet Covid committee.

    In June 2021, he had already produced and article ending with this conclusion:

    Finding the Origins of COVID-19 and Preventing Future Pandemics

    The question about origins is not about one government or another, much less a geopolitical issue or a matter of blaming China and exonerating the US. If there was indeed a laboratory-related release of SARS-CoV-2, it may well have occurred in a project funded by the US government, using methods developed and championed by US scientists, and as part of a US-led and US-financed program to collect and analyze potentially dangerous viruses, including in China.

    https://english.cctv.com/2021/08/30/VIDETmtB7TGp6GLGFi3VYuqP210830.shtml

    In Sep 2021, he also made positive declarations on China’s COVID public health response, and alluded directly to the need of investigating US laboratories in an interview given to Malaysian newspaper “The Star”.

    China has done an excellent job of suppressing the pandemic, and the world could and should have learned a lot more from China’s response.

    “The United States should learn some good manners to work cooperatively with China, rather than trying to impose its will on that nation,” the head of the Lancet Covid-19 Commission said.

    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021/09/05/us-needs-to-work-with-china

    • Replies: @emersonreturn
  304. @S0S

    So perhaps it was “within a day.”

    My explanation: everything was ready even before the epidemy began. They inserted the PRRA into the spike protein and at the same time worked on the mRNA of that protein to produce their injection stuff. Thus thinking the western countries would be safe, while the rest of the world would fall to pieces. Bioweapon against China and Iran and profits for big-pharma all in one move.

    Too bad, the virus was nothing like a black plague or like the US influenza (1918-1919) and the injections proved inefficient, and even dangerous for some young people.

    It tells a lot that there is no available statistical data on the comorbidities of the people said to have died from covid.

  305. @Wild Man

    Agree with your assessment of the Martin interview.

    But he’s only being discussed because of a swirl of red herring.

    Useful: https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/

    I spot the following:

    – appeal to ridicule
    – composition
    – division
    – suppressed evidence
    – guilt by association
    – straw man

    • Agree: Greta Handel
    • Thanks: Wild Man
    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  306. @Rumpelstiltskin

    Red herring courtesy of our host, not Wild Man, to be clear.

    • Agree: Wild Man
  307. @Iris

    thank you, iris. i am hoping ron unz considers interviewing mr. j sachs. such an interview might clear up some nagging questions. above all, iris, thank you for consistently pursuing truth & fact.

    • Replies: @Iris
  308. Iris says:
    @emersonreturn

    Thank you, dear, for the kind words and for keeping the discussion alive and focused.

    I also came across this article in Pr Sachs’ own website, where he provides very important clarifications:

    Early in the epidemic, a small group of virologists queried by the US National Institutes of Health told the NIH leadership that SARS-CoV-2 might have arisen from laboratory research, noting that the virus has unusual features that virologists in the US have been using in experiments for years – often with support from the NIH.

    How do we know what NIH officials were told, and when? Because we now have publicly available information released by the NIH in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. We know that on February 1, 2020, the NIH held a conference call with a group of top virologists to discuss the possible origin of the virus. On that call, several of the researchers pointed out that laboratory manipulation of the virus was not only possible, but according to some, even likely. At that point, the NIH should have called for an urgent independent investigation. Instead, the NIH has sought to dismiss and discredit this line of inquiry.

    https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/cpgynw2j9x4lamdd2resnf3eekppyd

    This stunning piece of information proves that some, among US authorities, knew all along from 1st February 2020, before the global pandemic took off, that SARS-CoV-2 most likely originated in an American lab but covered up for it.

    It vindicates what Mr Unz has been writing for over a year, except that he went further by affirming it was done on purpose by some NeoCons. He deserves our most sincere thanks: at least, we know why we lost two years of our lives and our loved ones, and can make our decisions accordingly. Time is up.

    • Thanks: emersonreturn
    • Replies: @d dan
    , @emersonreturn
  309. Jimmy1969 says:

    Ron many of the writers on here and many of the commentators are not exactly kind to your background or your parents or grandparents historical flight …I am a free speech guy..I am a White Protestant Boston born Harvard and Groton male tpe Wasp guy…but for you, it must be hard to read these comments and front these articles…how do you take it.

  310. he went further by affirming it was done on purpose by some NeoCons. He deserves our most sincere thanks: at least, we know why we lost two years

    Oh? Has either Sachs or Unz gone into the huge parts played by the corporate mass media, public health & other government officials, academia and wankers like Bill Gates in exaggerating Covid’s risk; discouraging & suppressing effective prevention & treatment; imposing ineffective & highly repressive measures; mandating disastrous experimental genetic+nanotech injections? How about the frauds of the pharmaceutical companies?

    If not, then neither has really done all that much to help us understand the why of this 2+ year nightmare; certainly not enough to deserve our sincere thanks. I’ll save that for the honest doctors and other professionals who have put their wellbeing on the line for the sake of everyone’s health and freedom, often at great cost to themselves — folks like Peter McCullough, Ryan Cole, Meryl Nass, Robert Malone, all the health care whistleblowers, J. Ioannidis, K. Wittkowski, J. Rose, Kennedy, Mercola, C. Brandolini, E. Dowd, etc.

    I hardly find it earthshaking to conclude that bad actors with USA & Jewish identity were key protagonists. It’s pretty much the default conclusion given the state of the world.

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  311. @Athena

    And they accidentally built the reactor on a river they didn’t know about. Looks impossible, I know, but check it out.
    They’ve decide to release that radiation into the Pacific. Diluted, so it meets the legal limit.

  312. d dan says:
    @Iris

    “It vindicates what Mr Unz has been writing for over a year, except that he went further by affirming it was done on purpose by some NeoCons.”

    Agree and thanks Unz for his persistence. And thank you for providing some of the most informative comments.

    I don’t regard Sachs’ admission of the lab origin to be of particular significant step forward. There are already plenty of rightwing nutters and opportunistic politicians (e.g. Rand Paul) of well-known names who claim that before Sachs.. It is part of their anti-elitism and/or anti-China ideology – neither of which require much personal courage nor impose much risks.

    An “easier” conclusion of the lab origin would of course be the Wuhan lab leak, compared with the much difficult conclusion of the bio-attack. Although Sachs has stated the obviously politically correct shtick like “not a blame game”, “science problem should be left to the scientists”, etc, he may lack the courage or capability to reach the later conclusion. I suspect he already read/knows some of Unz’s points. His lack of clarity and follow-up would actually make his statement a step forward for the anti-China crowd, but a step backward for people who want the truth.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  313. @Iris

    iris, having read the link several times, i again thank you for bringing this to our attention. i now feel it is imperative, if jeffery sachs or neil harrison & or both are willing, such an interview & discussion is crucial. good on ya, iris.

    • Thanks: Iris
  314. Ron Unz says:
    @d dan

    I don’t regard Sachs’ admission of the lab origin to be of particular significant step forward. There are already plenty of rightwing nutters and opportunistic politicians (e.g. Rand Paul) of well-known names who claim that before Sachs.. It is part of their anti-elitism and/or anti-China ideology – neither of which require much personal courage nor impose much risks.

    An “easier” conclusion of the lab origin would of course be the Wuhan lab leak, compared with the much difficult conclusion of the bio-attack.

    I don’t think you’re being at all fair to Sachs, nor recognizing the tremendous importance of this public declaration.

    Not only is Sachs a very high-ranking mainstream academic, but he actually served as chair of the Lancet Covid commission, so he possesses the strongest possible public credentials on the issue. That’s exactly why the MSM has imposed a near-total boycott on his statements, which otherwise should have attracted banner-headlines. In fact, Sachs has said that although he’s published thousands of MSM op-eds over the years, his submissions on this topic were rejected.

    Keep in mind that his important article appeared in PNAS, which automatically publishes anything by a member of the National Academy of Sciences, probably the only reason the paper got into print.

    The short video clip of his statement was retweeted 11K times with a million views, representing Trump-level visibility. I think he’s probably broken the issue wide open in the way no one previously had. Someone I know met a couple of days ago with a US Senator, who turned out to be fully aware of Sachs’ striking statement.

    You’re absolutely correct that Sachs doesn’t even hint at a deliberate biowarfare attack, but that would obviously be a step too far for him. However, he does repeatedly focus on the likely American source of the virus while never even mentioning the Wuhan lab, thereby surely providing a strong implication of his suspicions. After all, if the virus was created in America rather than the Wuhan lab, how did it mysteriously jump to Wuhan?

    The PRC government has itself been very cagey on the matter, never once accusing America of a deliberate biowarfare attack.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @d dan
    , @gepay
  315. @Olivier1973

    They could not have chosen a different protein. mRNA vaccination is a pre-emptive measure against future release of bioweapons either already manufactured or currently in labs in addition to being a Covid vaccine. Hence the military-grade roll-out.

    In future bio-weapons, other proteins might change but Spike won’t because binding to Ace2 receptors through Spike will be one shared characteristic across all of them.

    • Agree: Olivier1973
  316. Athena says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Moderna apparently told potential investors that its gene therapy injections were to be given YEARLY.

    It’s possible that the real purpose of the vaccines is to cure certain genetically-transmitted diseases, particularly those affecting selected races (such as the ashkenazes).

    Gene therapy: The ultimate cure for hereditary diseases
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31544769/

    In the Quebec province (Canada), the founding effect in the region of Saguenay-Charlevoix resulted in an extraordinary rate of transmission of rare genetically-transmitted diseases.

    Certain diseases affecting ashkenazi have an elevated frequency in the Charlevoix-Saguenay region.

    In the past, universities conducted extensive reaseach in this area to find cures to genetically-transmitted diseases.

    Besides it’s a known fact the German U-boats stayed parked during extended periods of times in the St-Lawrence River, Charlevoix, during WWII. They are half-way between CFB Bagot and Quebec. Reportedly Mengele conducted experiments in a hospital in Qc city. Not only McGill was used for experimental purposes (sarcasm).

    A powerful lobby is currently exerting pressure on the canadian government to inject Moderna to children in the Quebec province.

  317. OR TO induce genetically-transmitted diseases. NOVEL ONES.

  318. @Wizard of Oz

    The ‘latest antivirals’ are orders of magnitude more expensive that the safe, cheap and efficacious ivermectin. Surely one of your innumerable ‘friends’ could obtain some for them from India. As for Japs, none really, not since my old pal Yukio Mishima, dear chap that he was.

  319. @Ron Unz

    Timing may be relevant. Launching into a full bore investigation now might seem irresponsible when America’s strength gor the war in Ukraine is many times more important than knowing the truth about Covid’s origin. And a Democrat partisan view would be that it has anti Trump potential for 2023-24.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  320. Iris says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Launching into a full bore investigation now might seem irresponsible when America’s strength gor the war in Ukraine

    No, on the contrary. It is even more important now to know the truth about Covid’s origins, in order to avoid a warfare catastrophe of much greater magnitude than the pandemic, since the same people who caused the former are now actively striving to bring about the latter.

    I kid you not: Pompeo has just made a speech where he is alluding to him running for Vice-President in 2024, which is unfortunately a very realistic premise. He wants it all: let the Ukraine war go on and on forever, recognise Taiwan, prepare for a war with China.

    https://archive.ph/hi3Dm

    The pandemic has not even ended and the Neo-Cons are already escalating to other heights of madness.

    Pr Jeffrey Sachs is actually very consistent, since he also opposes the Ukraine provocation. Catching the Neo-Cons red-handed on the Covid topic is one way to prevent the escalation to what they clearly want, World War 3.

    https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/ck2hajlg7zd5m89wdhxldn2me6b8lf

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Olivier1973
  321. katesisco says:

    I recall reading about the contingent of US soldiers meeting with their counterparts in China, and the possibility that this was the first indication of the CoVid virus.
    It is not entirely out of reason that lax oversight during a particularly divisive elective result could have allowed a rogue element to instigate and carry out the intentional viral contact out of country.
    The author points out a million US have died, altho they are primarily aged. Canada’s deaths were 90% confined to aged and nursing home residents according to one report.
    One might also consider that the national IQ of the US has fallen according to the results of educational school administered tests for grade level achievement.
    One might also consider that the US has almost 1,000 overseas bases where US military families enjoy the protections of health and safety of food, etc., which are much laxer here in the US.
    Our elections, Presidential and otherwise, draw from a populace that actually have little effect on law enactment during their stay. The corporate structure is so well entrenched that one finds that the political actions are fringe legislations while the body remains untouched.
    This disjunct between action and commentary is the same as in deep history, where the actual result is that the library of collected legality is overturned by burning and massive destruction.

  322. “Rogue element”

    YOU used it

    YOU define it

  323. @Wizard of Oz

    The Wizz is typical of Austfailia’s fifth-rate ‘elites’. Best keep things covered up, while lying about them, lest the rabble get out of line. The pomposity while advocating repressing the truth is another trade-mark of this type. Next he’ll be gibbering on about ‘Our Moral Values’ and ‘Freedom of Opinion’.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  324. d dan says:
    @Ron Unz

    “I don’t think you’re being at all fair to Sachs”

    I admit not knowing Sachs enough. If he did make personal sacrifices or endure considerable risks, I take back my words about him.

    “nor recognizing the tremendous importance of this public declaration.”

    I wish I can share a fraction of your optimism. I doubt it will lead to the truth or for the system to self-correct. But I sincerely hope I am wrong.

    “chair of the Lancet Covid commission”

    Which raises the question of what makes him change his mind.

    “retweeted 11K times with a million views”

    And 70% of the viewers would conclude (if they haven’t already) it’s Wuhan lab leak, and 30% would believe it’s a joint US-China project to kill them / take away their freedom / big pharm money-making plan…

    “Trump-level visibility”

    a.k.a “Trump won the election” visibility, i.e. nothing burger but half-day riot in a riot-ridden country.

    “a US Senator”

    who is probably thinking more about how many of the viewers are his/her supporters, than about the origin of the virus.

    “[Sachs] never even mentioning the Wuhan lab, thereby surely providing a strong implication of his suspicions. ”

    Your wish is clouding your judgement. In his PNAS paper (more important than the video), the authors repeatedly mentions Wuhan Institute of Virology, but never mention Fort Detrick or any of the US military-run bio labs where the virus was likely created. They emphasize especially projects that have relation with Wuhan, which were all civilian-run.

    “The PRC government has itself been very cagey on the matter, never once accusing America of a deliberate biowarfare attack.”

    Enough Chinese are already convinced about the bio-attack theory. Unless PRC possesses some hard or new evidences (like what Russia obtained from Ukraine), PRC accusation will just only provide another Iranian-style bullet point for you. Given the extreme negative view about China in the West, it may even hurt the cause and you.

    The obstacle to the truth is in US, not China. Ultimately, American (and Western) problems have to be solved by Americans – outsourcing won’t work. Sorry for being caustic.

  325. @Iris

    I haven’t finished reading th.e SA hs link but thank you for posting it. I don’t think I will end up with any conclusion which doesn’t require Putin to be defeated if it can be done but there are points made which deserve to be answered.

  326. @mulga mumblebrain

    How do you get relevance for any of that rant from my suggestion that some key people may be making judgments as to WHEN to bring up the Sachs, and maybe Unz, suggested investigations?

  327. @Iris

    It looks like that the Russians found plenty of information in two new military biolaboratories in recently liberated towns, one being in Severdonetsk. It seems that while retiring the ukronazis did not had time to destroy everything. They trapped the place instead. Blood samples of ukrainian prisoners reveal unusual elements like antibodies or traces of medicine to cure from pathogens developed in those labs. Soldiers as guinea pigs?!

    It looks like the msm are mute on that subject. Coronaviruses were also present in several such labs.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Athena
    , @Iris
  328. Athena says:
    @Olivier1973

    The Criminal Focus of Secret US Biolabs Now Becomes Apparent

    https://journal-neo.org/2022/07/20/the-criminal-focus-of-secret-us-biolabs-now-becomes-apparent/

    (excerpts)

    ,,Documentary evidence was obtained of the research on dangerous pathogens, including the Ebola virus, the causative agent of Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, as well as many others (for by no means peaceful and humane purposes) by American, British, and German military biologists in Kiev and Odessa.”

    ,,From a report obtained during the capture at a US biolab in Ukraine, prepared for the Pentagon by Metabiota and Black & Veatch, it follows that “Veterinary Projects” codenamed “TAP” were implemented in Ukraine, during which infections were developed that could cause damage not to the manpower of the enemy, but the agriculture of entire regions.”

    ,,Experiments were also carried out with potent narcotic drugs, particularly, nalbuphine, which is dangerous because it is very addictive and is on par with morphine, methadone, and tramadol. It, in particular, was supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Luhansk front.”

    ,,Research at these biolabs is carried out in three main areas: the study of the epidemic situation near the expected deployment areas of NATO or US troops; the study of the genotype of possible future opponents (in particular, Slavs and Chinese); increased pathogenicity via synthetic biology, which have already appeared in service with US military viro

  329. Iris says:
    @Olivier1973

    It looks like the msm are mute on that subject.

    Just like they remained mute when the Russians discovered that using the Ukraine as a platform, US biowarfare had been weaponizing migratory birds.
    The birds would be fitted with capsules of harmful pathogens, tracked by satellite and then blown up once they’d reached the targeted country.

    These astonishing findings were discussed at the United Nations, in proceedings available to any member of the public and accessible on YouTube. Yet, not a word in the press.

    Migratory birds of mass destruction, by M. K. Bhadrakumar.
    https://www.indianpunchline.com/migratory-birds-of-mass-destruction/

    Not a word on the biological experiments carried out on defenceless psychiatric patients in Merefa, Kharkiv region, neither on the drones fitted with chemical sprayers captured in the region of Kherson.

    https://iz.ru/1320659/2022-04-14/mo-nazvalo-imena-zadeistvovannykh-v-realizatcii-voenno-biologicheskikh-programm-ssha

    Or how, for several years in the Ukraine, the US managed research to cause the infection of people from bats.
    https://iz.ru/1320692/2022-04-14/v-minoborony-obvinili-amerikanskikh-uchenykh-v-opytakh-nad-psikhbolnymi-v-kharkove

    But Russians are fighting back the MSM wall of lies. Their diplomats and parliamentarians are preparing a report on many of theses activities uncovered in the Ukraine territory, to which one can add spread of banknotes contaminated with virulent strains of Asian tuberculosis in Lugansk, development of gas gangrene in a Mariupol veterinary lab, biological contamination of servicemen.

    All these horrors are UN Security Council material, and there is no doubt that the Russian report will be distributed and avidly read in parliaments all across the “Global South” countries.

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5436893?from=doc_vrez

    • Agree: emersonreturn
    • Replies: @Athena
  330. Athena says:
    @Iris

    Thanks

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5436893?from=doc_vrez

    (Excerpts translated with e-translator)

    “At the plenary session of the Duma, Irina Yarovaya recalled that the commission, consisting of 14 deputies and 14 senators, began its work on March 30. It consists of four working groups: on medicine, law, security and information. During her speech, the deputy speaker showed the deputies a thick pile of sheets, saying that these are the contracts, which they had managed to find “thanks to a special operation. The commission analyzed them “in the most detailed way” and made full translations from English and Ukrainian. The President’s decision on the special operation “made it possible to stop the dangerous military and biological activity of the Pentagon on the territory of Ukraine,” said the deputy. According to her, in the course of the investigation, the commission found “invaluable witnesses” who gave it “exclusive testimony. The commission strengthened its conviction that the activity of military laboratories in Ukraine was “carried out by highly qualified specialists from the Pentagon” who had experience in working with biological weapons, which is confirmed by the “coding” used by these specialists. According to Irina Yarovaya, security requirements were violated in the laboratories themselves.”

    “The deputy speaker also informed parliamentarians about “facts of bioterrorism” in the territory of the Luhansk People’s Republic: counterfeit banknotes infected with “a very dangerous highly pathogenic strain of Asian tuberculosis” were distributed there. And in Mariupol, according to the commission, gas gangrene research was conducted. In addition, deputies and senators received documents about “dangerous experiments” that were conducted on Ukrainian servicemen, according to the co-chairman of the commission. “It is safe to say that the establishment of biolaboratories in Ukraine poses a real threat to the Russian Federation and our allies,” Irina Yarovaya concluded categorically, reminding her colleagues of NATO representatives’ statements that Russia is one of their enemies. Yarovaya also suggested that the smallpox virus and infantile hepatitis, both of which appeared simultaneously in different parts of the world, could also be the work of the United States. Irina Yarovaya closed her speech by supporting the efforts of the Russian Foreign Ministry to initiate an international investigation into the activities of biolaboratories at the United Nations. The commission will present its final report in the fall.”

    • Thanks: Iris
  331. Iris says:

    This is another extremely “remarkable” discovery made by researchers with regards to the COVID virus extraordinary abilities.

    As some might remember, one of the striking arguments presented by Pr Sachs’ in support of the engineered origin was the SARS-CoV-2 virus’ exceptional ability to ubiquitously attack different types of cells within the human respiratory: cells of the nasopharynx, of the trachea and of the lungs, a feat that no other respiratory virus can achieve.

    https://en.topwar.ru/198647-vse-delo-v-shipah-amerikanskaja-darpa-mozhet-byt-prichastna-k-prichinam-pandemii-covid-19.html?ysclid=l5dfj2j2ex577186764

    It now turns out that not only SARS-CoV-2 can attack the brain, but it does so in an original and unexpected way, by building nanotubes towards the brain cells.

    The presence of Covid-19 has sometimes been observed in the brains of some patients. However, as reported by our colleagues at New Scientist, “the ACE2 receptor, which the virus normally uses to enter cells, is barely detectable in the brain, unlike the cells that line the nose, mouth and lungs.” The researchers were therefore looking at how SARS-CoV-2 managed to migrate to the brain.

    A team from the Institut Pasteur may have some clues to answer this question. According to a study, led by Chiara Zurzolo and published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, the virus would build tiny tunnels through which it could easily pass from the nose to the brain.

    https://www.20minutes.fr/sante/3329023-20220723-covid-19-chercheurs-decouvert-comment-virus-parvient-atteindre-cerveau?xtor=RSS-176

    Tunneling nanotubes provide a route for SARS-CoV-2 spreading

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abo0171

    It looks that this super-virus has many more hidden talents than we know. Three cheers for Pr Ralph Baric.

  332. @Iris

    again, thank you, iris, for keeping us up to date. i have long suspected this phenomenon as the common symptoms are brain fog, the loss of smell & taste. the why & how were a conundrum, thank you.

    • Thanks: Iris
  333. @Iris

    Thanks.

    Still more questions than answers. Those results are only in vitro. It is said that once in the brain cells, the virus is immune to therapy. So… how many dead from brain damage and where are the autopsies for instance showing the TNTs? Also those who lost smell or taste or both recovered them within a few weeks.

    • Replies: @Iris
  334. Iris says:
    @Olivier1973

    Also those who lost smell or taste or both recovered them within a few weeks.

    Yes, it is a symptom uniquely specific to Covid.

    In one of my work assignments abroad, regular Covid testing was mandatory. A very healthy colleague, late twenties, tested positive at his great surprise, since he had or felt not any sign of being infected. He had to go in quarantine. Although an anti-lockdown and a Covid “minimiser”, he later gracefully acknowledged that he had indeed lost the sense of smell and taste for a few days.
    He had no side effect whatsoever.

    In the same work setup, with total personnel in the order of 300 people, another, only 34-year old individual died of Covid, who had apparently no pre-existing condition.
    He was treated in hospital, and hydro-chloroquine was vastly used at the time, there was no drug ban as in Western Europe were. Some stated that the quality of health services in an emerging country wasn’t optimal, but the fact remains: I had never heard of somebody in their thirties dying of the flu.

    • Replies: @emersonreturn
  335. @Iris

    thanks again, iris. while i understand most only lose their sense of taste & smell for a very short time, & that was true in my husband’s case (with both bouts), i lost mine for much longer; having recovered omricon in late february (sufficient to only need 6boxes of kleenex a day) my sense of taste & smell are only beginning to return. this morning i realized i could smell a small bouquet of sweet peas. trust me, cooking sans taste & smell requires added patience & a reliance & trust on past habits.

    i found lavrov’s answer to questions in the congo on the ukraine labs very interesting. i was unsuccessful in my efforts to link it.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @emersonreturn
    , @Iris
  336. geokat62 says:
    @emersonreturn

    i found lavrov’s answer to questions in the congo on the ukraine labs very interesting. i was unsuccessful in my efforts to link it.

    Is this it?

    https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1823250/

  337. gepay says:
    @Ron Unz

    I have looked into Chernobyl. Unz is just wrong in accepting the mainstream figures on the deaths caused by Chernobyl. The incompetence factor in its happening tracks for me. Just as Fukushima was one of those days where the mistakes made came to matter. No need to try to find conspiracy of sabotage, He is also just wrong in not even looking into the obvious conspiracy of the mRNA anti covid injecctions. How can you even have articles about covid and not even mention Bill Gates and vaccinate the world. They don’t even work well enough to cover the hideous amounts of death and serious adverse events that are impossible to cover up – although of course “they” try. I appreciate the research that Unz has done and is to be commended for reporting it. However I hope he continues his skepticism to look into the religion that vaccines have become. The ‘powers that be’ think technology has advanced enough to get past “who ya gonna get to do the dirty work when all the slaves are free.” They think that AI and robotics have advanced enough so they don’t need ‘us’ anymore, “It’s a big party and we ain’t in it.” Getting 6 billion people to line up by pits holding their children’s hands just wouldn’t work. Even with a ‘virus’ that mostly just kills people over 70 with co-morbidities and other immune compromised younger people -look at how many people lined up to get vaccinated with an injection that doesn’t prevent infection or transmission and are still getting boosters.

  338. @emersonreturn

    thank you, geokat62, very much appreciated, & interesting, bt no, the q&@ from congo was from today, or july 26th. lavrov was responding to questions asked about the smo in ukraine & that led to the medical labs not only in ukraine bt globally. it was something noteworthy to africans as there have been bio labs in africa as well. personally i don’t think the issue will go quietly away. it may not be published in the west bt as we are beginning to appreciate the west is a very small portion of the world, one with an increasingly troubled past & a looming financial crisis. that members of the pentagram are pushing for war with both china & russia, events are going to become even more irrational. that abramovich was one of the signatories @ the istanbul grain conference, & the conflict between lapid & russia’s gov regarding an israeli ngo is also heating up. thank you, geokat62, i appreciate your views & links, thank you.

    • Thanks: geokat62
  339. Iris says:
    @emersonreturn

    Hello dear, and thanks for the update on Lavrov. It is a very important development, because truth is now being said without fear and without imperialist intermediary, and it is spoken about questions that have long haunted this continent. A lot of Africans have long believed that their lands were used as a laboratories to create the most harmful of viruses, AIDS first, and Ebola later.

    This belief is so widespread that it was made as a novel by the wonderful Swedish author, the late Henning Mankell, who lived for many years in Mozambique.

    Of all the possible titles for a book about biological warfare in Africa, Mankell chose to call it “Le Cerveau de Kennedy” (President Kennedy’s brain). By this strike of genius, he managed to encompass one blatant proof of President Kennedy’s assassination conspiracy into a short phrase that would question and influence any of his future readers, long after his gentle soul had departed for Heaven.

    It is not widely reported, but FM Lavrov has made a speech about the US biowarfare activities in the Ukraine in front of the Arab League panel at Cairo, warning them of the existence of hundreds of such laboratories across the world.

    Such collective address carries a big weight; it is more important than speaking to any individual country’s parliament and it will have consequences.
    The Russian, and Lavrov in particular, are old-style diplomats, very measured and mild. Such extraordinary words will be all the more taken seriously.

    https://french.almanar.com.lb/2386529

    I am very glad to read that you are getting better; you will fully recover by the grace of God. We are living through promising times that will bring meaningful spiritual improvements to all of humankind, including the good American people who deserve much better. With warm regards.

  340. Anon[357] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

    The next step is examination of the “upstream” effects, maybe with an eye open to traffic supporting WIV.

    Science Is Boring!

    Much more intriguing to follow Ron’s lead about how all this could be the perfect cover for a germ attack hatched by the U.S. against China and Iran. The only limits are that Ron’s explanation is not necessary to establish the origins of the pandemic, that such speculation makes the market origin scenario insanely more complicated, that the outcome of this diabolical Trumpian plan wrecked the U.S as much as anywhere else and dethroned Trump (although Trump’s office and Republicans in general are well known to be total idiots, so anything is possible in that realm) and — you know — just as a footnote: total lack of evidence for Ron’s theory in spite of Ron having published tens of thousands of words and garnered many Rumble views on his topic. But other than these minor factors Ron’s thinking is (in)credible, so mosdef carry on!

    • Replies: @Iris
  341. Iris says:
    @Anon

    Wow. You just re-post what I posted 10 minutes ago in the “Newslinks” section, to the effect of “proving” the contrary? What sort of lazy trolling is that?

    These articles are pathetic JOKES: statistics based on a 150-large dataset, bio-genetics rehashing in total confusion a much superior job done over two years ago by Pr Forster.

    All they prove is that Pr Sachs’ article has caused a lot of embarrassment. Coupled to what the Russians have found in the Ukraine, it is certain that the ZOG will now be considered as a dangerous bio-criminal by most nations.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  342. Ron Unz says:
    @Iris

    Wow. You just re-post what I posted 10 minutes ago in the “Newslinks” section, to the effect of “proving” the contrary? What sort of lazy trolling is that?…All they prove is that Pr Sachs’ article has caused a lot of embarrassment

    I very much agree that the Daily Mail article represents desperate damage control after they broke the media blockade and ran that article earlier this month reporting Prof. Jeffrey Sachs’ remarkable statements.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10980715/Covid-leaked-AMERICAN-lab-claims-professor-Jeffrey-Sachs.html

    After all, the new piece touts “Two explosive new studies” supposedly demonstrating that the virus was entirely natural:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11053897/Did-Covid-emerge-notorious-wet-market-Two-explosive-new-studies-suggest-so.html

    But those are just the same studies already covered in a front-page New York Times articles back in February:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/26/science/covid-virus-wuhan-origins.html

    It’s very odd for the Daily Mail to “break” a story that had already been reported on the front-page of the NYT almost five months ago.

    I think it’s obvious that someone put a lot of pressure on the DM to have them mitigate the impact of their previous Sachs story, and a top journalist I know seemed to agree with my theory.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Iris
  343. Iris says:
    @Ron Unz

    You are being too kind to the Daily Mail; they don’t deserve your consideration.

    England is a country with a proud, first-class Life Sciences tradition, in which The Lancet occupies a prestigious place of choice. British scientists were bound to hear about a Covid-related article authored by the head of the Lancet Covid Committee.

    So the DM applied a usual propaganda tactics, that could be described as pre-emptive Pavlovian name-calling.
    When a piece of information is bound to come out anyway to a receptive audience, the propaganda organ takes the lead and rushes to be the first to actually break the damaging news, downplaying them and name-calling the whistle-blower in advance.

    In this fashion, the box allocated to this information in the target’s mind is already filled in. The target will show less curiosity and inquisitiveness, wrongly believing that they are ahead and already aware of the facts, but mostly remembering the name-calling conclusion and reacting to it as a Pavlov dog when exposed to the damaging info through a second, more objective channel.

    But this demeaning propaganda will fail in the long-term. The search for the Covid origin facts cannot stop because it was a disaster of global magnitude, for which state actors worldwide are now obliged to prepare policy responses. Many countries would have by now updated their defence doctrines to cater for biowarfare attacks, which implies that their strategists are avidly reading and compiling yours, Pr Sachs’, and any other account on the topic.

    You arguments for a biowarfare attack are spot on and superlative. I made an experiment by discussing them with several mainstream-thinking colleagues from my (lagging) French-speaking world. They were astonished by the Covid foreknowledge argument, were so shocked that they all insisted on immediately having the links to your articles just to verify that they actually existed !

    Thanks for everything you do for the common good, for a human collective that de facto extends far outside of America.

  344. @Zachary Smith

    The head of WHO tedsros something , was on the terrorist watch list until either trump or Obama took him off I forget which one but I know its semi recent but prior to covid. They are all terrorists ! The jew is the terrorist. . There is no such terror existing on this planet other than the jewish kind. They are the ones who have embedded themselves in every single government on the planet (minus 2 or 3) and what do you know they own all the media also that’s coincidental . well hell if I ran the printing presses my people would own everything also except we wouldn’t be enslaving ( also a jewish concept and historically has been exclusively jewish ) and trying to genocide the whole world( yet ?more jewish behavior). You see where I’m going with this if you can’t see the connection you might have an illness , possibly covid or dare I say monkey pox, either way I would worry

  345. xcd says:
    @Olivier1973

    They could have chosen a non toxic proteine of that virus.
    As many governments admitted, they do not have any spacimen of the virus. They only have the spike.

  346. xcd says:
    @Iris

    from the nose to the brain
    Does the insertion of cotton buds deep into the nose for the PCR test now make sense?

  347. Alfred says:

    consider the global impact of the Covid epidemic that began in Wuhan, China during late 2019

    Total nonsense. It was circulating in Milan for months and no one noticed. Long before Wuhan.

    The earliest reported infection, discovered in a preserved nasopharyngeal sample of a 4 year-old boy, happened before 21 November 2019 – in Milan (MI). By November at the latest, we can be confident that the virus was circulating in Milan. By the time of this map, though, the hot spots all appear to be in a roughly equidistant ring around Milan. By the end of February, the only places the virus is still accelerating, is in the still further outlying regions – places like Como, Mantova and Sondrio. It looks for all the world like the virus had burned through Milan without anybody noticing at all, and when the Tomas Pueyos of the world descended upon us with their mass testing and their lockdowns, they were a few months too late. The hotspots they found were secondary infection sites at best.

    The Earliest Days of the Italian Pandemic, or: Why Nobody Wants To Talk About February 2020 Anymore

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