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Over the last week or two, my newspapers have been running front-page stories declaring that our country’s Covid fatalities had reached the million mark, and as usual, their facts were wrong.

Anyone who bothers consulting the official CDC website could quickly determine that since Covid reached our shores two years ago, our country has already suffered around 1.3 million “excess deaths,” nearly all of which were either directly or indirectly due to the disease outbreak that began in Wuhan in late 2019. These fatalities total more than twenty times America’s losses in the Vietnam War and triple our World War II deaths, representing by far the largest death toll for any event in our entire national history.

Meanwhile, according to the most recent report of the World Health Organization, excess deaths worldwide over the last couple of years have now nearly reached fifteen million, exceeding the four-year total of the First World War.

During the two decades since the 9/11 Attacks and the Iraq War, I have been scathing in my criticism of our mainstream news media, and the many dozens of articles in my harshly critical American Pravda series on that subject now totals over 400,000 words. But even by the degraded standards I have condemned, the American media coverage of why so many Americans have now died has been astonishing to me.

More than two years ago, Iran’s government and media explicitly denounced America for the Covid outbreak, which they claimed had represented an illegal biowarfare attack against their own country and China, with Iran’s former president even filing a formal complaint with the United Nations. Yet not a single word of those explosive charges was ever reported in our own media, so virtually no Americans ever became aware of them. Although I was closely following the Covid outbreak at the time, I only discovered those public accusations more than a year later.

The reason for such extreme reticence by the American media is hardly mysterious. If the Iranian charges had ever been reported—even if presented as insane or ridiculous—large numbers of Americans might have begun to consider the possibility, and they would have soon discovered that the actual evidence of American governmental guilt was quite strong. So merely a tiny leak in the dam of enforced public ignorance might have quickly become an unstoppable flood.

Indeed, although I had been entirely unaware of those Iranian claims, I quickly came to very similar conclusions, and over the last two years I have published a long series of articles presenting the mountain of supporting evidence, while failing to find even a single strong argument on the other side.

So it appears that the unintended blowback from a failed biowarfare attack, probably carried out by rogue elements of the Trump Administration, has now cost well over a million Americans their lives. Add to that the two years of intermittent lockdowns, the massive economic disruptions, the widespread promotion of controversial new vaccines, and the extremely high inflation produced by many trillions of dollars in desperate governmental spending. If substantial numbers of our citizens began to believe that this unparalleled national disaster had been the consequence of an exceptionally reckless biowarfare attack by members of our own government, I think that our existing political regime would have a very difficult time surviving the recriminations.

Yet to my utter and complete amazement, nearly all our journalists and commentators have spent more than two years averting their eyes from this absolutely obvious factual evidence. The reality of our disaster has been ignored not merely by the notoriously timorous members of the mainstream media but even by almost all the supposedly bold truth-tellers of the alternative media as well.

However, although there seems to be an extreme reluctance to publicly mention these facts, there does seem to be a considerable fascination in reading them or seeing them discussed.

Just days after my first major Covid origins article was released and began to go viral, our entire website was banned from Facebook and all our pages deranked by Google. Yet despite these crippling blows, my Covid articles have generated more than a half million pageviews since April 2020, while the eBook collecting my articles has been downloaded more than 10,000 times.

Even more impressive has been the reaction to several of my video interviews with small podcasters in February of this year. Although the outbreak of the Russia-Ukraine war later that same month completely swamped all other issues and diverted public interest in an entirely different direction, my video discussions have still accumulated more than 400,000 views on Rumble, far more than I had ever expected.

Presumably at least a few of those readers or viewers have absorbed this important material, but any echoes elsewhere have been as rare as cries of “Long Live Trotsky” in Stalin’s USSR. Apparently the likelihood that elements of the American government killed over a million of our own citizens remains too horrific a possibility to admit. Indeed, one policy analyst I know explicitly told me “Nobody wants to hear that the US did COVID.” So except for the massive loss of human life, the entire situation seems like something out of a Monty Python skit.

However, with the continuing Russia-Ukraine war now fading a little from the headlines, I’m hoping to restart my series of audio or video discussions, and any podcasters interested in interviewing me on their show should email me.

Given the importance of the topic and its near total absence from public discussion, some of my February presentations generated viewership more than 100x greater than the typical interviews in those channels. And if the Trump-hating media ever discovered the issue and suspended their disbelief, the results might easily rival the 26 million Youtube views of John Mearsheimer’s 2016 lecture on the origins of the Ukraine conflict.

Meanwhile, for those who had missed my February Covid presentations, here are three of the interviews, from Kevin Barrett’s Truth Jihad, Geopolitics & Empire, and Red Ice TV:

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  1. I’ve always found your arguments on Covid quite persuasive, Mr Unz. Especially given the feebleness & contradictions in other views of Covid.
    However, I’m not so sure of this –
    “I think that our existing political regime would have a very difficult time surviving the recriminations.”
    If by regime you mean the government of the day, then perhaps yes. If, on the other hand “regime” means the deep state/structures etc, then I doubt it.
    Absent either a catastrophic war/economic break down then I can’t see the US public rising to the occasion sufficient to essentially destroy such a regime & it’s deep structures.
    Of course “reciminations” here is somewhat ambiguous so perhaps you are correct in the above quote.

  2. Wokechoke says:

    if Pompeo did this the then the blame for the epidemic gets interesting.

    However the lockdowns were a psychological preparation for wider warfare. much like the distribution of gasmasks in France and UK before 1939.

  3. Bo Bo says:

    Mr. Unz- In all this COVID mess, the apparently most important steps taken for prevention were, besides the vaccines, stay home from work and school, social distancing and wearing masks everywhere. What the government DID NOT prohibit were the most important steps of all to save lives: prohibit ALL hugging, kissing, and f*cking. Most COVID was probably spread by those three human activities- and they were not prohibited.

    • LOL: Bumpkin
  4. Tom Verso says:

    Why do you accept statistics from CDC and WHO as unbiased indubitably factually accurate?

    Perhaps you have addressed this in the past.
    If so please provide the link.
    If not, why not?

    Thank you

  5. ariadna says:

    “one policy analyst I know explicitly told me “Nobody wants to hear that the US did COVID.”

    Your policy analyst is right.
    And the people who remain unconvinced that “US did COVID” are also right, especially if the definition of “US” you offer is “rogue elements of the Trump Administration.”
    It is as if upon examining the pattern created by the iron filings around a magnet you would select a few iron grains and conclude that those are responsible for organizing the whole configuration around an invisible object.
    Amazing how the actions of those “rogue elements,” in completely unrelated fashion, coincided with WEF’s agenda 2030, Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, the WHO, NIH, CDC, the gigantic global pharma industry organized crime monopoly, EU’s leadership, etc, etc….

    • Agree: ThreeCranes, Olivier1973
    • Thanks: Spanky
    • Replies: @JWalters
  6. Bo Bo says:

    Mr. Unz- regarding the COVID mess, it is awful that so many people have passed away. The government’s main remedies, as we all know, are/were the vaccines, social distancing, staying home from work and school, and wearing masks. However, the most important steps that they DID NOT TAKE, which would have saved untold lives was prohibiting ALL hugging, kissing and f*cking. Prohibiting those human actions would have saved many, many lives. It seems like the government can (or try to) prohibit everything (or anything) it wants to. Prohibiting those three human activities would have had an enormous effect on COVID fatalities and infections. But NOTHING was ever said about those three human activities.

  7. Over the last week or two, my newspapers have been running front-page stories declaring that our country’s Covid fatalities had reached the million mark, and as usual, their facts were wrong.

    Just a typo there, Mr. Unz. I’m sure you didn’t mean that YOU were EVER actually wrong about ANYTHING. Unpossible!

    You’d really be better off learning a little bit more about what this supposedly simple “excess death” number entails. Besides the rapidly aging populations in most of the developed world, lots of bad health practices were a function of not the Covid itself, but the PanicFest that was ginned up to take advantage of yet another bad strain of virus out of the Orient. (Nothing that awfully new …)

    The reader may want to take a look at Peak Stupidity and its many posts on the Kung Flu Stupidity topic.

    As for your faith in the CDC and the WHO, well, fancy that! I don’t trust ANY branch of government, including their Lyin’ Press arm.

    • Agree: Mike Tre, Adam Smith
    • Thanks: Alden
    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
    , @Alden
  8. Actually believing those numbers LOL.

    • Replies: @Rooster15
  9. anon[384] • Disclaimer says:

    Another classic fart in church from our fearless leader. US use of banned biological weapons, sneak-attack aggression that makes the US a failed state in law, US crime invoking R2P Pillar 3. The inevitable end game is the world collectively dismantling the criminal enterprise that rules the US.

    Rogue elements, ahem. There’s no shame in not taking the last step, the basic idea is too scary for most – but this extraordinary media timidity cannot be explained by rogue elements, or any elements at all. What would shut you up about life-and-death news of personal urgency and historic importance? Only one thing – perps who can kill you or torture you and get away with it. Criminals who are not out of control but firmly in control. Criminals with a dozen different get-out-of-jail-free cards. That’s your state. That’s CIA.

    CIA hijacked CDC and FDA like they hijacked HUD to arm the Contras, like they hijacked DLA to run their wars. Ask Daszak. He’s CIA. Kadlek. Contractors in Batelle, Emergent, UT, and other hungry 2nd-rate unis. All working for a dozen old guys in DO you never heard of. Very easy to decapitate, this state. One Sarmat would do the trick. And CIA knows it. So they’re using poor man’s WMD to threaten mass destruction of the most indiscriminate sort.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Thanks: emerging majority
  10. mijj says:

    > “the disease outbreak that began in Wuhan in late 2019”

    .. i think you mean the disease was *first officially detected* in Wuhan.
    Your assertion merely propagates US Empire Perception Management.

  11. Chris Moore says: • Website

    More than two years ago, Iran’s government and media explicitly denounced America for the Covid outbreak, which they claimed had represented an illegal biowarfare attack against their own country and China, with Iran’s former president even filing a formal complaint with the United Nations. Yet not a single word of those explosive charges was ever reported in our own media, so virtually no Americans ever became aware of them. Although I was closely following the Covid outbreak at the time, I only discovered those public accusations more than a year later.

    The reason for such extreme reticence by the American media is hardly mysterious. If the Iranian charges had ever been reported—even if presented as insane or ridiculous—large numbers of Americans might have begun to consider the possibility, and they would have soon discovered that the actual evidence of American governmental guilt was quite strong. So merely a tiny leak in the dam of enforced public ignorance might have quickly become an unstoppable flood.

    And the reason behind the overwhelming corruption of the MSM? The answer to that appears right here on the pages of, too: ((Jewish)) domination.

    Jewish Media Ownership and Management—An Update

    In fact, ((Jewish)) domination of MSM is the reason behind many disasters that our country has walked right into, including the Iraq war (for Israel/Zionism), the 100’s of billions in “aid” sent to ((Jews)) there, the corruption of Congress to the benefit of neocons and fake-liberals, the cultural cesspool our country has become, the open borders, the war against Christian Russia using ((Zelensky)) led Ukraine as a proxy…

    I could go on and on. The point being, when you get in bed with the Devil, you ultimately get burned. And these ((Jews)) are literally Satanists.

    Jesus didn’t call them the Synagogue of Satan for nothing. They destroyed ancient Israel, too, with their evil and treachery.

    So destroying an obese, narcissistic whore, as America has become with the help of ((Jew)) sabotage, is small potatoes.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
    , @Liosnagcat
  12. They went from rehearsal of a virtual drill, to a real world drill that lasted over two years. The next one will not be a drill but the real enchilada.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  13. Anonymous[356] • Disclaimer says:

    Tell it like it is…the excess deaths are not from the Fauci virus. They are from the murder factories known as “hospitals” with their ventilators and Fauci serum Remdesevir. And “long COVID” is little more than accumulating damage from the death shots.

  14. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Chris Moore

    Jesus didn’t call them the Synagogue of Satan for nothing. They destroyed ancient Israel, too, with their evil and treachery.

    Corrected link:

  15. I’m open to the non-natural origin of covid. There’s a reasonable case for that. Sure, Mr Unz has written a lot of interesting material speculating much further on this. And many of us had a lot of suspicions about the response to covid and vaccines and so on.

    But I see pattern here and I think we have to be careful of this white or American supremacy that creeps into these whodunit questions.

    Inevitably it’s always obviously ‘them’, ‘our elites’, ‘our government’ and key white government figures.

    It’s never actually non-whites (‘chinks and niggers’ if it were any other topic) that are responsible for covid, monkeypox, *flu, ebola or AIDS.

    Non-whites have no agency here. They are blameless innocent victims. Merely pawns in some greater game they don’t understand.

    It’s always white people, white American people and white imperial meddling in the affairs of other states.

    The deranged backwardness and disgusting practices of other races is the least considered factor in the outbreaks of these diseases. (Mostly it goes totally under the radar, or if it arises at all it becomes a straw man to knock down.)

    And even if Jews are pulling the strings on many things, it’s still white people who get the blame as whites are also at fault for letting Jews have too much power.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  16. “our country has already suffered around 1.3 million “excess deaths,” nearly all of which were either directly or indirectly due to the disease outbreak that began in Wuhan in late 2019.”

    And/or the lockdowns, the mRNA injections, the missed cancer screenings, etc.

    “These fatalities total more than twenty times America’s losses in the Vietnam War…”

    I expect this sort of context-free sensationalism from the MSM, not from Unz. Because we all know that the median age of those dying from/with Covid is around 80, which, I do believe, is a bit higher than the median age of the soldiers who died in Vietnam.

  17. @Bo Bo

    Bo Bo! – You could have – should have, I mean – also mentioned breathing: Forbid that and the case is solved! – One more hindsight that shows how foolishly & amateurish Fauci and the government handled these affairs!
    /ok – irony off/

    • Agree: Prester John
  18. The big difference in Covid excess deaths
    a) in different regions of the US and
    b) between Europe and the US seems to be real.

    And Denis Rancourt and his team seem to have gotten a hold on these otherwise unexplained big differences. Rancourts findings: Poverty, obesity, stress, heat and lack of antibiotic treatment combined caused the excess Covid deaths in the US –

    – in the interview linked below from minutes 15 to ca. 44


    Note though there are no excess-death-cases in no-lockdown Sweden – and in all of – highly vaccinated – Scandinavia in 2020 and 2021 – to the contrary: 2020 and 2021 show less deaths than would have to be expected – a real world .l.a.c.k. of deaths, so to speak.
    Social statistician and science blogger Orwell2024 remarked the same thing recently in a comment under his article about the differences between New Zealand and Sweden (Excess Death Match-Race***). This article is interesting too.

    Here is orwell2024’s substack account and – his latest article

    google: Orwell2024’s Newsletter | Substack

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Trumpeter
  19. Your analyses relating to the Covid source rank among the most credible that I’ve seen. However, you remain silent on the evidence (circumstantial and otherwise) of WEF / Davos / Pharma influence. At an absolute minimum, the WEF / Davos / Pharma group is clearly, openly, “not letting a good crisis go to waste.” I don’t understand how you can so thoroughly digest RFK Jr’s book and yet remain silent on the role those others have played in the resulting deaths. Here you speak of Covid and of “excess deaths” but are silent on how many of those deaths were due to the disease versus how many were the result of the dystopian response including but not limited to the experimental shots.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  20. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Vagrant Rightist

    And even if Jews are pulling the strings on many things, it’s still white people who get the blame as whites are also at fault for letting Jews have too much power.

    ((Jew)) stooge Whites do share equal responsibility with ((Jews)).

    ((Jew)) stooge Whites allowed the ((Jews)) to instigate two World Wars, and right now its obvious they’re working on a third. I don’t see too many Whites clamoring against the ((Jews)); I see a lot of narcissistic Whites sleepwalking right into another ((Jew)) trap. Even Russia and Putin aren’t naming the ((Jew)), but rather the Atlanticist “fifth column.” Hungary is similarly reticent.

    The problem is, the Zionists were so massively successful in first sowing the two world wars, and then manufacturing the post-war “Holocaust” narrative (with the help of White stooges of left and right), no one wants to see the evil that is right in their face.

    Non-whites have no agency here. They are blameless innocent victims. Merely pawns in some greater game they don’t understand.

    That’s how Whites are posing, too: pawns of the Jews in some greater game they don’t understand. Because they’re too goddamned smug, lazy, stupid, greedy and self-absorbed to get up off their flabby asses and do something about the ((Jews)) and the Zionist conspiracy.

    • Agree: Ralph B. Seymour
    • Replies: @Vagrant Rightist
  21. Seeing as how this is “Memorial Day” – in honor of all the dead who fought in the Banksters’ wars, I propose that the name of the holiday be changed to Bankers’ Day.

    Thank you.

  22. Ron Unz says:
    @Dick Lowman

    However, you remain silent on the evidence (circumstantial and otherwise) of WEF / Davos / Pharma influence. At an absolute minimum, the WEF / Davos / Pharma group is clearly, openly, “not letting a good crisis go to waste.”

    There’s no real way to determine the identity of the individuals responsible, and I’m extremely skeptical that any of the leaders of the WEF or Big Pharma were aware of the plot.

    For example, here’s what I’ve written about Robert Kadlec:

    For example, in 2017 Trump brought in Robert Kadlec, who since the 1990s had been one of America’s leading biowarfare advocates…From the earliest days of the administration, leading Trump officials had regarded China as America’s most formidable geopolitical adversary, and orchestrated a policy of confrontation. Then from January to August 2019, Kadlec’s department ran the “Crimson Contagion” simulation exercise, involving the hypothetical outbreak of a dangerous respiratory viral disease in China, which eventually spreads into the United States, with the participants focusing on the necessary measures to control it in this country. As one of America’s foremost biowarfare experts, Kadlec had emphasized the unique effectiveness of bioweapons as far back as the late 1990s and we must commend him for his considerable prescience in having organized a major viral epidemic exercise in 2019 that was so remarkably similar to what actually began in the real world just a few months later.

    So Kadlec, our leading biowarfare advocate, spent eight months preparing for a dangerous respiratory virus that might suddenly appear in China…just a couple of months before exactly such a virus appeared in Wuhan. But does that prove that Kadlec was part of the plot? Not necessarily.

    It’s easy to imagine that the American plotters merely emphasized the global risks of a new virus appearing and organized the exercise or persuaded others to do so, with Kadlec merely selected to run it.

    Similarly, it’s easy to imagine that they began talking up the possibility of a global viral epidemic with the WEF people, leading that organization to sponsor various simulations.

    So the evidence very strongly indicates that some group of people high in Western circles had advance knowledge of the Covid outbreak but doesn’t allow us to determine their identity. Personally, I think the leading suspects would be Mike Pompeo or John Bolton, but that’s just speculation.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  23. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ron thinks Covid 19 was caused by a “virus” that was used by the US (military) to attack china— and that there was “unintended blowback” in the US.

    I think Ron must be smoking crack.

  24. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    Today I chanced on a piece of news where Russians said a swine flu that hit Georgia some time ago to be linked with some USA-installed biolab in that area.

    Which brought to mind some things you have written here, by some time (you have written about similar attacks carried on China).

  25. @Wokechoke

    I have always dismissed Alex Krainer in the past because he posts on Zero Hedge but his appeasement stuff on Chamberlain and Czechoslovakia is excellent.

  26. @Ralph B. Seymour


    I personally believe that “Covid,” like AIDS and Ebola, originated in U.S. military biological weapons laboratories. If one stops and thinks about it, it would be completely AGAINST China’s interests to develop this and to infect its largest trade customer – the United States.

    I also believe that the “prominent powers” have a plan that they have begun to implement, to reduce the world’s population by billions of persons.

    BTW, “Ralph” is my middle name!

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  27. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:

    Legally, all lives are equal, but viruses don’t care. Like wolves they thrive most on the old and the vulnerable. So it comes down to QALYs, not lives. The Y part is easy: in years of life lost, the Civil War was much worse than COVID. But the Q part is more difficult: how much higher does the average person value a year in their prime versus a year of old age? Anyone got an ‘actions speak louder than words’ way to estimate that?

    • Replies: @WhoaWaitaMinute
  28. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    The glacial slowness of your ideas getting aired in even the alternative media reminds me of an idea expressed in Leonard Peikoff’s The Ominous Parallels, a book which compares the U.S. today with the Weimar Republic in the years preceding the Third Reich. (The book follows the standard erroneous history but isn’t completely worthless.)

    … the converse of the Big Lie: the Incredible Truth, which cannot be accepted and which acts to annul the victim’s grasp of reality …

    Another point, you write,

    … the unintended blowback from a failed biowarfare attack … has now cost well over a million Americans their lives.

    Remember that safe, inexpensive, effective treatments were suppressed by the CDC, federal and state governments, and medical boards. A huge percentage of the deaths are due to that.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  29. meamjojo says:
    @Tom Verso

    Why do you accept statistics from CDC and WHO as unbiased indubitably factually accurate?

    Perhaps you have addressed this in the past.
    If so please provide the link.
    If not, why not?

    Because they help make his point.

  30. @Brad Anbro

    Certainly all the bioweapons were developed in US and UK labs. But the point I was trying to make is that there is no “virus”. Only bioweapons and propaganda used to instill fear.

    And yes, of course the entire covid fairy tale is part of the Jew World Order agenda to use “vaccines” to kill billions worldwide. It is NOT Mike Pompeo’s plan to destroy China.

  31. meamjojo says:

    Pooh! Kill the Covid beast by not feeding it. Stop writing about it and funding it. Let it die….

    • Replies: @A B Coreopsis
  32. @Tom Verso

    The use of poisoned data then using these data supposedly against the same providers of said data as culprits of their counts is preposterous. Covid is a non-item, since there is no hard sanity tolerant data nowhere. It is a case where the data are not available, tweaked, omitted, wrongly accented, meaningless. Ukraine is a baby compared to the mirrors and smoke of the Covid phenomenon.

    Ron should start his queries at the bottom (the before who has done it, the what is). There are words enough spilled to include the general context of the Covid phenomenon (why the data on Covid, counts, “science”, and other are garbage).

  33. “1.3 million dead” ‘Murkans….

    BS of the highest order. For instance, whatever happened to regular old flu during the covid years? Fact is, all the regular flu deaths – annually c. 100-200K – were simply added into the covid total. Not to mention tens of thousands of deaths from the ventilators, covid jabs, and etc. In short, and as usual,

    big lies,

    and statistics.

    • Agree: WhoaWaitaMinute
  34. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Because we all know that the median age of those dying from/with Covid is around 80, which, I do believe, is a bit higher than the median age of the soldiers who died in Vietnam.

    And what’s the median age of those dying from the “vaxx” clot shot, I wonder? The ones used instead of ZOG-banned ivermectin? The ones that ((Jews)) like Pfizer’s ((Albert Bourla)) profiteered from?

    Covid was only stage one of the latest Zionist crime. The “vaccines” are stage 2, 3, 4 etc, or were planned to be.

    Anyone who doesn’t want to think this was all pre-planned is in a pathetic cope stage, or maybe has Pfizer stock, so they’re basically paid not to.

  35. @Brad Anbro

    Best explanation targeting the Commoner as to why they live in a dictatorship. Still it passes beyond what most can comprehend. The target of body blows should be the middle class, that requires no explanations so much as impositions.

  36. Ron Unz says:
    @Mark Hunter

    … the converse of the Big Lie: the Incredible Truth, which cannot be accepted and which acts to annul the victim’s grasp of reality …

    Sure, that’s an excellent point. I actually discussed something similar towards the beginning of one of my earliest American Pravda articles:

    Could a news story ever be “too big” for the media to cover? Every journalist is always seeking a major expose, a piece that not merely reaches the transitory front pages but also might win a journalistic prize or even change the history books. Stories such as these appear rarely but can make a reporter’s career, and it is difficult to imagine a writer turning one down, or an editor rejecting it.

    But what if the story is so big that it actually reveals dangerous truths about the real nature of the American media, portrays too many powerful people in a very negative light, and perhaps leads to a widespread loss of faith in our major news media? If readers were to see a story like that, they might naturally begin to wonder “why hadn’t we ever been told?” or even “what else might be out there?”

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  37. @Chris Moore

    In so much as post-WW2 globalization can be framed as a specifically Jewish problem; and downstream their corrupted whites problem, you can make that sort of a case, but it still doesn’t exonerate non-whites.

    It’s in Jewish interests to pursue open borders or just maintain a non-discriminatory policy to allow these groups and the problems they bring in. This inevitably includes their diseases.

    While I agree Jews are a significant political problem, I remain skeptical in general that the appearance of novel diseases requires Jews or their corrupted whites to actually invent them.

    Jews just need to keep the borders open for them to wreak havoc.

    China wasn’t particularly harmed by covid, America was. If Mr Unz were right, it would be the most stunning example of military failure/blow-back in the history of the world.

    But honestly, apart from some employees of the CDC or some executives in Big Pharma I’ve seen no clear really strong case covid was a particularly Jewish scheme or part of a wider Jewish WW3.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  38. Ron Unz says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    BS of the highest order. For instance, whatever happened to regular old flu during the covid years? Fact is, all the regular flu deaths – annually c. 100-200K – were simply added into the covid total.

    This isn’t a Flu Hoaxery thread, and such off-topic comments will be much less likely to be published. However, since this one already has been, I might as well provide a listing of the TOTAL American deaths for the last few years, straight from the CDC website:

    2014: 2,626,418
    2015: 2,712,630
    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,813,503
    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,854,838
    2020: 3,384,426
    2021: 3,470,219

    Notice that the numbers were relatively stable until the Covid outbreak, when they suddenly jumped by over 500,000 in 2020 and 600,000 in 2021. I doubt the government is covering up an extra half-million annual homicides, suicides, or car accident deaths.

  39. It amazes me that Mr. Unz continues to be amazed at the chicanery of the media. I think it was Mark Twain who observed “The job of the Editor is to sift the wheat from the chaff. And print the chaff.”

  40. Anon[263] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s rubbish to talk of the virus resulting from a lab leak, purposeful release or of it being a bio-weapon. They tried their hardest to create a pathogen that would double as a bio-weapon, they failed.

    They failed to create a pathogen with the slow burn needed for widespread infection in a population, and with the lethality to kill those infected. Take Ebola, it kills so quickly it does not have time to spread and infect others. The fact that it kills so quickly is a pointer it came from a lab, natural pathogens have been selected to survive, not burn themselves out and die.

    They couldn’t manufacture a virus that was capable of population reduction, so they renamed the seasonal flu and created a ‘vaccine’ that was capable of said reduction.

  41. The question is why would the media, in the face of overwhelming interest and perhaps of harnessing millions of potential views, why would they ignore the story? Eyeballs translates into ad revenue.

    I think the only explanation is that the media controlled by the national security state and thus that the even bigger story than Covid is the fact we live in a totalitarian society and I think THAT is what people do not want to hear.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  42. Sir, I haven’t seen the stats on from, not with, Covid plus flu, the totals. I wonder where they are.

    The claims that it is all a hoax, a Scamdemic to give billions to some giant companies, still look credible to me.

  43. lavoisier says:

    I think you are on the right track Ron. It is too bad no one in the MSM would even consider the possibility that this virus is a bio-weapon.

    We do not know how this thing will play out in the future either.

    While your readers are correct that the virus kills mostly the elderly and the vulnerable, it can be a very serious infection for a lot of people. I do not know why so many people dismiss that fact.

  44. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Vagrant Rightist

    While I agree Jews are a significant political problem, I remain skeptical in general that the appearance of novel diseases requires Jews or their corrupted whites to actually invent them.

    To disbelieve that ZOG did Covid-19 and intended all along to profiteer from it, you’d have to disbelieve that ZOG banned ivermectin, disbelieve that ZOG elements had the “vaccines” in their back pockets ready or nearly ready to go, disbelieve that ZOG engaged in the same predictive programming we saw in the years leading up to 9/11, only regarding a pandemic, disbelieve ((Epstein)) pedo bedfellow Bill Gates’ financing of the WHO ( ), disbelieve that ZOG has biolabs like the ones proven to be in Ukraine scattered around the world, disbelieve that ZOG funded the Wuhan lab that leaked Covid-19 ( ), etc, etc…

    Like the 9/11 inside job, there are too many ((Jewish)) and ((Jew)) stooge fingerprints all over the Plandemic to plausibly argue it wasn’t another ZOG inside job.

    But hey, if you’re a ((neo-Nazi)) in bed with ZOG like the Ukrainian ((neo-Nazis)) are, I can see why you might want to try.

    • Replies: @Vagrant Rightist
  45. cohen says:

    A million Covid deaths. Fear mongering to make quick bucks and more vaccines in the future.

    Deaths because of Covid?
    Deaths with Covid
    Deaths because of Covid vaccines
    Who came up this magic number (reminds me the magic 6 million)
    What assumptions were made in predictive modeling? I am sure the death data documentation is not available to the public who is too dumb to understand anything. Only media pundits are qualified to decipher such models.

    On a recent visit to ER for hypertension, the first thing I was given anti clot ivy and drug. and a quick lung Xray for blood clot/s. And of course the famous life saver PCR test. I had been tested negative more than 20 times because of more than two dozen tests before and after overseas travels. But it did not matter. And above all the stick in the nose and in mouth despite a reminder that saliva test does the job.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  46. JackOH says:

    FWIW–Ron, and I think a few others, have sort of suggested or mentioned directly that COVID-19 may be a story too big to cover.

    I’ll just throw this out. Deborah Birx. the public health gal, said a few months ago the first 100,000 COVID-19 deaths were “learning” (I think that’s the word she used). The balance, about 800,000 deaths at the time, were attributable to bungling of all sorts.

    My memory of that single news item may be shaky. There was no follow-up I’m aware of.

    I’ve yet to hear any opinion leader, including current candidates in the midterms, call for a Congressional inquiry into the possibility our government (probably in cahoots with the medical lobbies) may have allowed hundreds of thousands of Americans to die needlessly. What’s it take? We’ve done far worse than Canada per 100,000; worse even than Mexico.

    Too big to cover? Maybe. I just don’t like thinking that’s a possibility.

  47. @animalogic

    As to the Zionist deep state that over the past 50 years has turned the US and all of western Europe into a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah, Russia and China are our only hope.

    That’s why I’m pulling for Russia to emerge the victor in Ukraine, followed shortly thereafter by the Dollar losing its status as the world’s reserve currency.

  48. Anon[177] • Disclaimer says:

    While the COVID hoax has indeed been one of the greatest mass-murder events of American history, I wouldn’t get too excited about the raw numbers. The Boomers are getting pretty old and we are going to be seeing some major dying years soon. A random flu virus killing a million people in a season isn’t going to even make headlines when they really start to get old.

    Of course, GenXers like myself will be lucky to witness it since our life-spans are decreasing more rapidly than any generation, ever. and many a hale Boomer is outliving his offspring. I run into these 70-year-old Boomers all the time who look like they could beat me in a marathon, especially when they are hopping the door on their rehabbed convertible as I drag my ass back home from a hard day. The really rough part is that instead of actually retiring from their cushy government job (now filled by diversity, naturally) and selling their extra house to a young family, these guys are hitting the private sector and scoring all the cushy jobs. They can afford to chat up the customers and take time on details.

    Unironically, we need a REAL plague soon.

    • Replies: @Ed Case
  49. JR Foley says:

    Long term effects of Covid are what? 80 million have had it–?

  50. I don’t believe it was biowarfare at all.

    It makes perfect sense this was related to the rollout of 5G towers, that happened in October 2019, in…wait for it…. Wuhan, China, same time and place Covid first struck.


    Coincidence? I think not.

    There is a book written in 2017 predicting this, by a Jew, no less, is “The invisible Rainbow” where he conclusively proves that increased rates of cancer, heart disease, and obesity are NOT caused by sedentary living and processed foods, but rather, by the electrifying of our environment. He shows stunningly comprehensive evidence how this all began in the 1800’s with the rollout of the Telegraph, then continues with the radio in 1918, and it’s accompanying Spanish Flu, and how 1G-4G all had accompanying flu strains.

    Particularly convincing is the evidence he shows proving that wild animals, whose diets and exercise haven’t changed at all, have higher rates of cancer, heart disease, and obesity.

    One of the most damning pieces of evidence is that the entities that are behind 5G towers, telecommunication companies, and those behind Covid vaccines, pharmaceutical companies, are both immune from lawsuits.

    • Thanks: Kali
  51. @Anonymous

    The vaccine deaths are conveniently attributed to Covid.

    • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  52. JimDandy says:
    @Bo Bo

    Well, if Covid officially could not be spread by mass urban street clusterfucking in protest of George Floyd’s drug overdose, what could you possibly be babbling about? Trust the science, bro. It’s called science. Heard of it? Like, read a book, bro. Seriously. WTF?

  53. IronForge says:

    Thank you, Mister Unz!

    Hopefully, there will be other Social Net Sites who will discuss such Differential Discussions with the Facts and Stats for All to make their Decisions from.

    Best Regards,

  54. g wiltek says:

    Look at EUROMOMO for excess deaths in Europe. That goes back to 2017. There has been an excess, but hardly something to write home about.
    Every winter people die at higher numbers, compared to summer.
    As a rule of thumb, 1% of a country’s population dies in a year. Of those 10% with respirator diseases.
    Many, I suspect have been helped on the way by the vaccine! You are counted as unvaccinated until 14 days after shot two. The vaccine can make you ill within days, if not hours! So “vaccine” deaths are counted as well. Fraud. Criminality, Deceit, Murder, call it what you will

    I don’t understand the stupidity that continues. If you think that “vaccine” works. Take it.
    But leave it to people to decide. I will not touch it.

    It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled. (Mark Twain)

  55. @Ron Unz

    If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, swims like a duck, flocks with a bunch of ducks and lays eggs that hatch into ducklings; it sure as hell ain’t no cocker spaniel.

    So if the Fauci/Gates/Schwab gang did not know diddly about the origins and purpose of the Co-Vid and even more so Pfeizer and Moderna’s vaccines; I would be willing to make such a deal on a wonderful structure which spans the East River between Manhattan and Brooklyn to anyone who pushes such a narrative.

  56. Anon[312] • Disclaimer says:

    I recently had Covid (I am unvaxxed) and found it very difficult to breathe. It seemed like the mucus was thinner than with the flu, sealing the inside of my lungs to prevent any oxygen absorption. I had to remain fully awake in order to consciously breathe as I was afraid that falling asleep would be the end.

    It was an old bottle of expired Senega & Ammonia that I found in the back of the cupboard that really helped. Just two tablespoons of it mixed with hot water and drunk quite hot broke up the phlegm and helped me overcome it in just a week. I know a couple of people who had it too and were over it apart from the mucus continuing to hang around and S&A soon fixed them up too.

    I live where free medical care is available but the hospitals insist on people being double vaxxed and boosted to even gain entry but I wouldn’t go anyway. I’m a healthy old bastard who takes no meds at all, just drinks a little red wine and some scotch with an occasional draw on some weed and I plan to outlive them all, especially those who support the job-killing government mandates.

    • Replies: @Sarah
  57. Dream says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Covid deaths happened in the rest of the world too, not just America.

  58. Dumbo says:

    I’ll repeat what I’ll said elsewhere:

    COVID was a psy-op, in the sense that what was really damaging was what done “to fight COVID”, including lockdowns, masks, tests, ventilation, vaccines and vaccine passports, and not so much COVID itself. Left alone, COVID would cause worldwide what it caused to the Amish, that is, not much. It was like a stronger flu season, but turned a thousand times worse by all the “measures to combat it” that not only did not help, but killed more people. Now even the media is admitting that lockdowns are masks were useless.

    Also, it’s pretty clear by now that “Omicron” and the first “Covid” were two different diseases with different symptoms. In fact, it may be that what we call “Covid” is actually many different diseases, from pneumonia to regular flu (which “disappeared” in 2020, remember?), unified by a fake test that just identifies a spike protein (common to lots of similar viruses).

    I now think the 1918 “Spanish Flu” pandemic might have been a similar type of fake.

    Perhaps 10 or 20 years from now, Mr. Unz will discover “relevant sources” and review his opinion on the whole COVID story.

    • Replies: @JohnnyGodYilmaz
  59. These fatalities total more than twenty times America’s losses in the Vietnam War and triple our World War II deaths, representing by far the largest death toll for any event in our entire national history.

    I understand the point Mr. Unz is trying to make, but a better indication of “deaths” in a war or pandemic is the ratio of those deaths to the population at the time.

    The 1918 Pandemic is listed as directly killing 676,000 people. This in a US populated by 106 million people. Like with Covid, the after-effects surely killed many more, but in any case the percentage of dead people was higher in 1918 than in late May of 2022.

    The US Civil War had a staggering 2.5% of the population die.

    The US power elites have basically stopped worrying about Covid. This despite the disease still being present and still killing people. I have had three extended family members who became violently ill in the past four weeks from their exposure to Covid, despite their vaccinations. (one of them admits he would have probably died without those vaccinations)

    The problem is ongoing.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @I'm Goygeous
    , @Biff
    , @Kali
  60. Cris M. says:

    What I see or focus in claims of media or cdc and the rest is more tactic, in this ‘using’ the dead to push scheme by claim ‘covid deaths’, which I don’t agree with, but to the under point it is to step on the dead who can’t speak, or take advantage of children who can’t speak, as they run over people, which as aside is important to make our own communications around us to counter things, whether this or other, as they use people to make false claims, false accusations, or spread false claims using omission, another part of tactics.

    It’s vile to spin on people who can’t speak. Was it regular death, vaxs, bioweapon, what, and where are the numbers of people died by suicide because they couldn’t take the loneliness from nonsense ‘lockdowns’. People are too separated and that threw many people over, we never should have gone along with that and masks either. Mostly it is only good people who die by suicide, think about it. We can’t afford to lose good people, any person with soul spirit has worth to us and earth. Need to share and cycle our energy.

    One thing the deaths were not was any natural ‘covid’ ‘virus’, no such thing, but bioweapons can injure, so agree with the possibility.

  61. @Tom Verso

    Why do you accept statistics from CDC and WHO as unbiased indubitably factually accurate?

    This is an obvious and quite pertinent question to address to Mr. Unz, and to be fair it has been raised many times in his previous articles, and also addressed by Mr. Unz to the extent that he cared to do so.

    It goes without saying that all American regulatory agencies, including the FDA and CDC, are owned by the very corporations and billionaire arseholes they are supposed to be regulating, and are basically BS factories.

    BUT I’d suggest not getting too hot and bothered over this facet of Mr. Unz’ world view – he is rather set in his ways in that respect.

    AND in his defence, Mr. Unz has invested considerable effort over a very long period of time in assessing the background and evolution of the fake Corona Chan “pandemic”, and has brought a great deal of factual evidence to light which destroys the official narrative and brings the intentions, involvement and loyalties of government agencies and major corporations into question.

    In a few words – Mr. Unz “gets it”, something is not right with the alleged deadly global Corona Chan “pandemic”. He’s also noticed the associated fishiness of the segway into the Ukrainian crisis.

    So I say, give the man credit where credit is due – and let an old man have his fun.

    • Agree: Kali, A B Coreopsis
  62. g wiltek says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Notice that the numbers were relatively stable until the Covid outbreak, when they suddenly jumped by over 500,000 in 2020 and 600,000 in 2021. I doubt the government is covering up an extra half-million annual homicides, suicides, or car accident deaths.”

    This might well be real. I say MIGHT! as I am now distrusting all information I receive.
    But even if it is, there is no reason for the draconian response, for either lock-downs or “vaccines”. This is simply totally and utterly insane.
    This is nothing more than a serious flu epidemic, we have had those maybe 4 or five times in my life. There was one in 1969, I believe. And yet we had Woodstock, and all that brought with it.
    There is no reason to regard this as more than a serious flu. Except the response, which was WEF, NWO inspired, and financed by woke rich shits, with exactly the same medical qualifications as I have. None!
    To regard this a sane, constructive and sensible, you should have your head read.
    You are going to die from something! Sooner or later. My body has taken me through life in good order, and will continue to do so, until it no longer will. I am perfectly OK with that.
    Bill Gates desires, whether noble or not, are his, not mine. And i have no intention of following any advice that guy tries to peddle. Unless it makes sense to me. And this certainly does not!

  63. SafeNow says:

    Recently I have been viewing videos of the new 3MT phenomenon – – basically, it is students describing their PhD or lower-level thesis in three minutes or less – – background context, the question addressed, the thesis methods and conclusions, and future implications – – the whole deal, real fast! This got me thinking a lot about how condensed everything has become in the Internet age. Ron always reminds us how many words long his and others’ essays are. He seems to assume that a comprehensive, fair-minded, fastidious explication is an advantage. But if the goal is to successfully present a refutation of a false narrative, in brusque America, I worry that Ron has hold of the wrong end of the stick. I think nearly everyone in America these days would regard a 3MT thesis presentation as too long to sit through…”Come to the point already.”

    An extreme case: Biden, campaigning, said about Covid: “I will shut it down, worldwide.” I can’t prove it, but I think that single phrase got him elected, because it was so concise, energetic, and colloquial. As Joan Didion wrote, Americans embrace “the con style.” (Fauci is the poster boy.)

    • Agree: Jeffrey A Freeman
    • Replies: @Dystopian
  64. JimDandy says:

    It’s a bit higher than the average age of natural causes deaths, isn’t it?

    • Agree: Cking, Cking
  65. JWalters says:

    I agree the Deep State is the critical factor. It orchestrates the corrupt mainstream media and politicians. The public is losing trust in the TV media, and that’s something we need to keep hammering on. Ron’s articles are tremendous ammunition.

    In 1915 the JP Morgan Bank began buying editorial control of the most influential newspapers in the US. The JP Morgan bank had become the dominant bank in America by becoming an extension of the dominant bank in Europe, the Rothschild Bank. More on this history of “our” Deep State is in War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank

  66. @Brad Anbro

    Numerology is at work again. The 21st comment when twenty one souls are slaughtered in the temple of doom.
    The signs are everywhere.

  67. @Ron Unz

    Notice that the numbers were relatively stable until the Covid outbreak, when they suddenly jumped by over 500,000 in 2020 and 600,000 in 2021.

    Your reference here is valid, no doubt.

    It does appear that something was killing a lot of extra people all of a sudden.

    That’s just the first layer of the puzzle, though.

    I doubt the government is covering up an extra half-million annual homicides, suicides, or car accident deaths.

    Perhaps not suicides or car accident deaths – but the question of homicides is another matter entirely.

    Remdesivir kills people, and Remdesivir was mandated as the sole treatment for Corona Chan “cases” in many (if not most) hospitals across the USA. Hospitals were also paid huge (and I mean huge) bonuses from government for each admitted Corona Chan “case” and even more for each Corona Chan fatality.


    Moreover, early treatment of Corona Chan “cases” was widely outlawed across the USA. Patients were told to stay at home until they turned blue – then they went to hospital, were put on Remdesivir which caused multiple organ failure, and put on a ventilator and then died.

    Hospitals were (and still are) paid massive government bonuses to do all of this – so that is what they did (and are still doing).

    Perhaps you have the time to look into all of these emphatic truths, and maybe crunch the numbers. Or perhaps not.

    What is also true is that the insurance companies have also crunched the numbers (and please don’t feign ignorance, we know you are a smart individual, we fully expect that you know this) and found a 40% jump in all-cause mortality in the USA AFTER the fake “vaccines” were rolled out.

    A similar phenomenon has occurred in Australia – where a 20% jump in all-cause mortality has been observed AFTER the fake “vaccines” were rolled out.

    You can’t have it both ways – using a jump in coarse mortality figures (while overlooking the uncomfortable details of official medical protocols and government mandates) to back your position on the one hand, but then ignoring another EVEN LARGER mortality anomaly which counters that position.

    In any case, you’re entitled to have your view.

    I say – let an old man have his fun.

    • Agree: IreneAthena
    • Thanks: Kali
    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  68. There have been excess deaths, yes. However the great majority of them were not caused by Covid but by the response to Covid. From medical practice pertaining to Covid, pertaining to putting on standby the treatment of other diseases, from the psychological disaster caused by lockdowns, to vaccines that have killed more people in one year than all other vaccines combined in the last fifty, the list is long.
    So yes, many more people have died, but how many really were killed by SARS-CoV2?

  69. What went around the Iranian leadership was much more dangerous and clearly not the same thing that went around Europe and the US. No one outside of the innermost circle has all the answers about “covid”, but there are two things we know for sure: The first is that Fauci and others pitching the official story are full of shit; the second is that those who bought into the “vaccines” are pfucked.

  70. Loup-Bouc says:

    Ron Unz’s article is fake news.

    • Troll: Kali
  71. A million Convid deaths? If only the numbers were true. So the so-called “stories” are just that…. stories.

  72. Humwawa says:

    Let’s not obscure the true significance of this story. On a per capita basis, the US had 1,000 times more Covid deaths than China. It’s true that most countries would not have been able to implement the type of public health measures China used; however, if Western governments had taken the pandemic more seriously, it could have been controlled. Most Far-Eastern nations had Covid deaths tolls far below those in the West.

    This shows that Western individualistic societies are incapable of dealing with global crisis situations like pandemics or climate change. In the competition of systems, the West has lost. Western democracy is hollowed out by populism. The greatest outbreaks occurred in countries with populistic regimes. The new variants, which are far more infectious than the original strain, appeared in countries with the greatest outbreaks; because, the more it spreads, the more it mutates. Thus, letting the virus spread and mutate has made it impossible to control. The pandemic is a failure of Western governments.

    That is the true significance. The US bio-attack story is an obvious conspiracy aimed at obscuring the real significance. All the evidence suggests that the zoonotic jump occurred before November 2019 on a wild animal farm in China. Wuhan was just the first known super-spreader event, which was followed with a one month delay by the super spreader events in Italy and Iran. Both countries have strong links to China. Both countries failed to detect the virus before it was too late to control. The virus was in Italy in December 2019, while the authorities only admitted they had a problem when the super spreader event in Lombardy occurred by the end of February, exactly one month after Wuhan.

    Under sanctions from the West, Iran gets most of what it needs from China. There are a lot of exchanges going on all the time. Qom in Iran was badly affected because the holy city is the destiny for pilgrims who all touch and kiss the same objects of prayer. That’s the best way to spread the virus.

    As always, reality is far more fascinating than conspiracy.

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @InnerCynic
    , @Kali
  73. @Ron Unz

    As you probably remember I have be come less and less persuaded by the facts you regard as evidence that Covid 19 broke out as a US Deep State rogue operation and now as my Agree to Comment #1 indicated I also disagree with your assessment of the likelu outcome of your being proved right as in


    it appears that the unintended blowback from a failed biowarfare attack, probably carried out by rogue elements of the Trump Administration, has now cost well over a million Americans their lives. Add to that the two years of intermittent lockdowns, the massive economic disruptions, the widespread promotion of controversial new vaccines, and the extremely high inflation produced by many trillions of dollars in desperate governmental spending. If substantial numbers of our citizens began to believe that this unparalleled national disaster had been the consequence of an exceptionally reckless biowarfare attack by members of our own government, I think that our existing political regime would have a very difficult time surviving the recriminations.

    Mu life experience and observation doesn’t lead me to believing there would be any coherent opposition to your “existing political regime” as such. Setting aside all the deliberate and random obfuscation and diversion as to who was to blame and a dozen other details I doubt that many people would be assessing the magnitude of the disaster in the terms you have used.

    So a lot of old or already moribund people die a few years earlier. I always wonder what to make of the screamers for “justice for [someone dead] – how about George Floyd” and how quickly they would subside if each sad loss to Covid of an obese 85 year old gave the right to family compensatory payments of \$5000. I could go on at length on that theme.

    As for the economic and career disruption I would say most people would shrug their particular experience off and get on with things. They would include those thinking working from home was a great discovery, those who comforted themselves that at least their parents cake shop had survived etc.

    And why not accept that it was indeed a great drama of individual wickedness to be compared with other crimes and enjoyed as a crime drama as the bad guys were hunted down and lengthily tried? No one has suffered as they would have in the 1930s Depression or had their lives disrupted as much as in WW2.

    All that reflects on the strength of motives for suppression and it is my judgment that there is no reason to adopt the explanations you give beyond plain incredulity. I don’t want to emphasise
    incredulity, or their justification for being sceptical but I don’t agree that there would be any great fear of consequences and in many cases there would be a relishing of the trouble they could cause. There are more than one or two schools , or tribes, of group think you be seen. Think Tucker Carlson and dozens of others round the world to beat up sexy stories.

    In fact if you really look seriously around the world you will go on asking questions and considering possibilities beyond what you have time for. Why, for example, are we not hearing the Russians latching on to your theory if only as something picked up from the Iranians. And is it conceivable that no outlier amongst US Senators and Congresspersons – Democrats almost certainly – wouldn’t find an excuse to raise their own profile by seeking to have a Congressional committee examine your accusation.

    It would not ring true to wish well of your efforts to get your biowarfare version noticed, but what will really be interesting if you do – and it will only be for a limited time – is the motives of those who think they can make something of it.

  74. Sarah says:

    Senega & Ammonia


  75. Anon[269] • Disclaimer says:

    I told you in early 2020: they are old weak diseased fat poor; plus, now THEY ARE DEAD!
    One million, Two millions, More millions…
    They don’t matter! They don’t even exist anymore! You survivors. Bravo!

    LOL LOL LOL LOL from Beijing, China

  76. 1M “covid” deaths is a lie and we all know it.

    When 3K ppl got roasted 🔥 on 9/11, Americans mourned. This “covid” lie is just BS.

  77. Tom Welsh says:

    There is a very efficient, time-tested mechanism for diverting any such scandalous revelations. Scapegoating.

    Some person or persons would be found who can be blamed for everything. And the gravy train would roll merrily on.

    The main reason for the regime’s stability is that the great majority of voters just cannot bear even to contemplate the idea that “their” government doesn’t care in the least about their life, liberty, happiness, or property. So they close their minds to it.

    • Agree: JackOH
  78. JackOH says:
    @Tom Welsh

    I speculated in an essay that a man having coffee or tea and pastry in Nazi-era Berlin, Stalin’s Moscow, Mao’s Beijing, with a job, and folding money in his wallet, and access to enough consumer goods that make him a bit better off than many people, will unlikely notice the regime he’s living under has gone way wobbly. He won’t want to notice.

    Those regimes’ excesses are all legal, and, as you mention, scapegoating and other propaganda techniques can help pacify the citizenry and allow them to explain away why Uncle Bob was sent to some camp.

    And, the US is extremely good at civic pacification by consumerism.

    • Agree: Alden
  79. @Ralph B. Seymour

    The excessive love for China will compromise the judgment of even the most reasonable man.

    • Replies: @A B Coreopsis
  80. Rooster15 says:
    @No Worries

    We know the high cycle threshold for the PCR tests artificially inflated the false-positive results, showing a greater number of cases and deaths, as it was the “gold standard” test to be used postmortem. Now those like Mr. Unz point to total excess deaths, but that’s a number can also be conflated with data that doesn’t provide an accurate cause of death.

    • Replies: @guibus
  81. Dumbo says:

    I find it really amazing that Ron Unz can still repeat the same BS over and over and no one calls him out.

    This was a media pandemic, from the start. Based on the media reports, not on experienced reality.

    How many people does Mr. Unz knows, personally, who died from COVID? I still don’t know anyone. The worse was someone who went to the hospital for a week (but not ICO).

    I mean, since Putin invaded the Ukraine, coverage of COVID basically stopped in the media (except Shanghai). Now, in most countries, mask mandates and vaccine passports and testing requirements were lifted. And people accept it, it’s like it was all just like a bad dream.

    Does that mean that COVID ended? I don’t know, I still hear now and then about someone who had COVID (usually mild). Of course, we’ll have to wait for winter to know for sure, as it was always a winter season thing mostly (like all other respiratory diseases). Maybe they will start again the stupid mask mandates and lockdowns, or maybe they will do it for another reason then.

    But the fact is — this is all media driven. If the media stops talking about COVID, there’s no COVID. If the media resumes talking about COVID, people panic. But there’s no there there. It is more or less like a regular flu season, and should have been treated as one.

  82. The official death statistics for Ireland show that in 2020 there was no particular spike in deaths, yeah it was a bit up, and I really mean a small increase on previous years,

    It also seems that most of those excess deaths occurred in nursing homes when they were flooded with sick elderly patients who were cleared out of the hospitals to make way for the huge influx expected because of the ‘deadly disease’,

    A few years later now and the figures again don’t lie,

    More people died of ‘covid’ in January and February of 2021 than had died in the whole of 2020 from the ‘deadly disease’,

    What coincided with this surge in deaths?, well the vaccine rollout and guess who got it first? the nursing home residents of course,

    The all cause mortality figures for the third quarter of 2021 show a rise of 14.9%, and what else was going on at this time? The jab rollout of course and more disturbing is that the rise in deaths in the 16-65 age group was up 40%, fucking 40%,

    On the 2nd of June the central statistics office of Ireland (CSO) will be publishing the death stats for the last quarter of 2021, I will be watching, indeed anybody can, it’s all there at the click of a mouse,

    Even in my own immediate family and community circle I can’t but notice that deaths at a far earlier age than expected continue apace,

    ‘Died Suddenly’ is the new way of popping your clogs it seems, one has to wonder when this will become headline news.

  83. If the draconian ban on ivermectin had not been established the covid death toll would have been much lower. Fauci and his cabal bear responsibility for hundreds of thousands avoidable American deaths.

  84. Realist says:

    Over the last week or two, my newspapers have been running front-page stories declaring that our country’s Covid fatalities had reached the million mark, and as usual, their facts were wrong.

    Then why do you subscribe to them…why do you read them?

    • Replies: @Punch Brother Punch
  85. HT says:

    When will the American people figure out their government has no interest in protecting them from attacks of this type? Instead our government has pitted us against each other. We are nothing but a play toy for the globalists who seek to exploit us for their own benefit. We are no longer a free sovereign nation.

  86. When it comes to Covid–or any disease for that matter–I tend to be fatalistic. You’re either going to get it–or you won’t. Yes, by all means take reasonable steps to protect yourself, but don’t assume that if you do you will be “safe”–because you’re not. In the end, it’s all a crap shoot.

  87. Trumpeter says:

    A MILLION deaths? The Deagle population estimate for 2024 say ” Hold my beer!”

  88. Dystopian says:

    Given the abundance of irrefutable proof that that 2020 election was stolen, I find it surprising that anyone still believes pedo Joe was actually elected.

  89. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    We’ve been waiting for Ron to fill in the blank, “See Vee One Niner, a bioweapon; clot shot for See Vee One Niner, also a ________.”

    I’m wondering if he did, would this site continue to exist, or to attract the debating partners it does? Anyone who wants to can fill in that blank here, and without using the silly code words required to fly beneath the radar on the other social media sites that have banned him.

    “Covid19, a bioweapon; mRNA “vaccine” for Covid19, also a bioweapon.” Thank you, Ron Unz.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  90. @Ron Unz

    When Ron fails to realize that if there were NO influenza deaths reported during Covid, that we must view with suspicion everything else the medical authorities promulgate as facts in these regards, I start to get very suspicious. In law, it is embodied in the jury instruction that: “A witness who is willfully false as to a material fact in one aspect of their testimony is to be viewed with distrust as to all other aspects of their testimony”

    This is common sense. The CDC lied to us about influenza deaths during Covid. The PCR tests were a sham that worked to the benfit of the pandemic narrative. Therefore our medical authorities must be viewed with distrust as to all other proclamations they issue in these regards.

    Ron is well aware that Vioxx and many other dangerous drugs were approved by American medical authorities knowing of the danger, but the ‘weight of the numbers’ pushed the health and well-being of the citizenry out of the picture leaving only the profits of Pig Pharma to have any weight in the decision-making process. And these same medical authorities assisted in the cover-ups that inevitably ensued when the truth of the danger became manifest. In the Vioxx litigation, the CDC/FDA tried to downplay the numbers (circa 4,000 deaths therefrom) so as to give bargaining leverage to Pig Pharma (Merck in this case), whereas if the actual numbers (circa 50K, or higher) were employed, the settlement would have been dramatically higher. The strategy was successful, as Merck still made a boatload of dough of Vioxx even when the class action payout was deducted. Tellingly, Ron spoke disparagingly of the attorneys who fought for the claimants in the suit, as if they would have faired better begging the CDC/FDA/Merck to provide compensation for their injuries on their own (which they did initially, and got zero other than being told their claims were bullshit/grifting; thus the need for attorneys). And ALL fees and costs are carefully scrutinized by the federal judge overseeing the litigation, who has the final say on what is reasonable and will be approved.

    The CDC and FDA are willing pawns of Pig Pharma, and the revolving door between them is a large part of the reason for this. Barring anyone who in any way participates in regulating Pig Pharma from thereafter taking any position with such firms is what is needed. A lifetime ban. No exceptions.

    Obviously, never gonna happen.

    But continuing to accord faith in the figures promulgated by the CDC or FDA without a healthy measure of suspicion, skepticism and “Cui bono?” makes me suspicious.

    • Agree: InnerCynic, John Wear, Towey
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  91. Ya says:

    I don’t believe any of this covid nonsense. Covid is just the rebranding of the common flu. What killed these people were the medications administered along with the ventilator and anybody else dying from accidents or other were counted as covid deaths.

    What’s killing people now is the bioweapon known as the covid vaccine. When you have healthy people in their teens, early/older adult years dying suddenly from heart conditions the red flags should go up for everybody.

    Everything is a lie including this covid scam that made new billionaires in a years time. They even admitted it at the WEF this year in Davos. One woman said “covid was the most profitable product to date”. She called it a product.

    Wake up, your .gov lies to you constantly and yet people buy this BS .gov spews.

    • Agree: InnerCynic, John Wear
  92. Trumpeter says:
    @Dieter Kief

    Dieter, every other vaccine has had absolutely zero variance in adverse events per lot. During the first year of COVID vaccinations 100% of the adverse events were concentrated in 5% of the lots. Further, within those 5% there was tremendous variance., with adverse effect ranging from a handful to hundreds. Further analysis of the variant in AE indicate coordinated dose ranging between the three American manufacturers. What is that? When one company released a high AE lot, the other two did not. Each alternating so that only one “clot shot” at a time was being given.

    While I am not the world’s greatest expert, it would seem odd to not include this in an analysis of excess COVID deaths, even if only to disprove any effect.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @Mustapha Mond
  93. Omash says:

    Started in china, travelled to Qom Iran which is a very small place only famous for having shia ideology academy/school for fatwa and producing religious scholars/ future ayatullahs and created havoc there.
    US authorities cautioning about serious outbreak in china happening before it became news are all signs that it was created by somebody who hated these two countries immensely to go to great lengths of producing the vrus and then making efforts to carry there.

  94. lavoisier says: • Website

    If Covid is such a harmless virus and a government propaganda scam, why is it that China took and continues to take very serious public health measures to control this virus? Surely if it was nothing more than a harmless virus their aggressive response would appear silly?

    Perhaps they know what we refuse to know–Covid is a bioweapon that has the potential to be very dangerous.

    Now whether this knowledge comes from their understanding of a lab leak in Wuhan or suspicion that it came from the United States, they are taking Covid very seriously.

  95. @Dream

    “Covid deaths happened in the rest of the world too, not just America.”

    Medically fragile old people were emotionally terrorized, facediapered, and imprisoned in solitary confinement in the rest of the world too, not just America.

    People were murdered with ventilators in the rest of the world too, not just America.

    People took poisonous injections in the rest of the world too, not just America.

    • LOL: Dream
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Dream
  96. SBaker says:

    It would be interesting to know where Ron received his expertise in infectious diseases and epidemiology? Ron, can you tell about your background and education, Please?

  97. SBaker says:

    It is hard to discern which side Ron is on; maybe just his own side? He is certainly no expert in infectious disease or epidemiology, but he has a knack for convincing the ignorant, many of which are living in 3rd world countries, that he has the righteous answers. I wish he would share how he is making money from operating this site? He must get a cut from some of the books he hawks for authors like JFK.

    • Replies: @Marcion
  98. @Humwawa

    I couldn’t give a damn about “where” something originated but I do care about the synchronized and all too scripted oppresion that was enacted around the world. If it were truly a natural disease it was the very unnatural response that identifies it as an evil hoax.

    • Agree: Nancy, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @aj54
  99. SBaker says:

    The CCP virus is a novel virus that required a novel vaccine, and a short time frame to bring it to market. All vaccines cause adverse events in specific populations. These AEs are not experimentally reproduced in human populations as far as I am aware. The Genetic variance in the human population is likely to have a profound influence on AEs.

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  100. @Dumbo

    Reminds me of something Morgan Freeman said about racism… He said if you wanted things to get better you’d quick babbling on and on about it.

  101. Nik says:

    I respect Ron, however the absolute lack of consideration that Covid is a flu and the vaccine is the bioweapon mean that I cannot take his opinion seriously

    Also, how can he not notice that the most powerful people on the planet always go ‘live’ with their simulations and Covid is no exception

    I think Ron religiously believes in coincidences

    • Replies: @SBaker
  102. @CelestiaQuesta

    Off-topic but, Do you happen to know the name of the brilliant actor who played the half-mad chief Scientist here ? Thanks in advance.

  103. Agent76 says:

    May 28, 2022 The Vaccine Death Report: Evidence of Millions of Deaths and Serious Adverse Events Resulting from the Experimental COVID-19 Injections


    The purpose of this report is to document how all over the world millions of people have died, and hundreds of millions of serious adverse events have occurred, after injections with the experimental mRNA gene therapy. We also reveal the real risk of an unprecedented genocide.
    May 1, 2022 Vaccine Study Of 23 Million Shows Risk Of ‘Heart Problems’ From Moderna Or Pfizer Jab

    Joe Rogan stirred up controversy by asserting a connection between the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines for COVID and the heart condition known as myocarditis. At the time Rogan was vilified for passing along ostensible “misinformation,” but now a huge study with more than 23 million subjects has delivered conclusive results establishing the much greater likelihood of getting myocarditis after the mRNA vaccine – particularly Moderna – than without.

  104. @Ralph B. Seymour

    “High on his own supply” is the way they put it oftentimes, Ralph. I think rather than crack, it’s just a stubbornness in him that is a very good thing for us in his principled stance on free speech,, but a quality that lets him down when he won’t let go of his pet theory even for a moment to see the BIG picture. That BIG picture is the way this “crisis” was used to increase Totalitarianism in various countries around the world. How a smart guy like Ron Unz cannot see that as THE BIG STORY going on right freaking now is beyond my comprehension.

    Anyway, American Bulwark brought up a good point too. Mr. Unz has never been to China (I told him to go in ’19, but he didn’t). He sees only the good, of which there is quite a bit, but not the bad, which, in fact, has been increasing greatly over the last 5 years. The latest LOCKDOWN stupidity – including a 3 month deal just winding down in Shanghai – is part of this latest stupidity. As Peak Stupidity noted, in one of our 9 posts on the newest Chinese PanicFest redux, Stupidity does not stop at the California coastline.

    Oh, and Mr. Unz seems to have a blame-everything-on-Americans attitude that gets a bit old too. However, he lets opposing views fly all over this website, so I shouldn’t complain.

    • Agree: SBaker, Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  105. Rich says:
    @Ron Unz

    The interesting statistic, provided by the CDC, is that about 75% of the deaths “with” covid, were people above 65 years old. Add in those above 55, and you reach about 90% of the deaths. The CDC also admits, in its own stats, that those who died had 2.6 co-morbidities. Insane that the country was shut down, elections manipulated, huge numbers of medical procedures and tests canceled, businesses destroyed, children’s mental health severely affected. All for a virus that statistically only attacked those who’d already lived full lives and had at least two co-morbidities. Ron’s thesis makes sense when one considers that if this was a bio-weapon, the feds would be unsure how bad the effect would be and were being extremely overcautious.

    • Thanks: Kali
  106. And the #1 defense against infection is….?


    No Experimental Gene Therapeutics, no cancelling, doxing or outright bigotry against those that understand the best way to fight seasonal communicable illnesses is to count on one’s individual immunity.

    And guess what? Tell that to a doctor (now)and they shut up and give treatment you require.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  107. @SBaker

    The seasonal communicable illness fearfully branded as CoVid19(84) is from a novel virus that only requires a person’s individual immunity and proper hygiene.

    I suggest that when the next fakedemic comes along (prepared for Monkey Business?) make sure to double plastic bag your head, securing the op-en end with a double wrapped elastic band… to prevent the passage of anything into your lungs, as well as eliminate ignorant gas lighting.

    • Replies: @SBaker
  108. @lavoisier

    Lavoisier, people seem to get the idea that because the Chinese people in general are pretty intelligent, stupid things can’t happen in that country. (We all can read about the terrible times induced by the stupidity of ONE MAN, Mao Zedong.)

    This newest lockdown business in Shanghai was political. President Xi is in a big power struggle with 95 y/o former Pres. former CCP Chairman Jiang, who is a BIG finance guy in Shanghai. Mr. Jiang wants for his sons to follow in his footsteps, but Mr. Xi wants to put the kibosh on the financial power that Mr. Jiang has.

    That’s why Shanghai, a city of over 20 million people was picked on – charging inbound trucks for swabbing them – in the hundreds of dollars a pop – LOCKDOWNS with 3 day warning and just enough time to reassure the city population beforehand NOT to stock up on food, the swabbing of chickens, fish and kitty cats. In the meantime, out of the just few dozens of thousands of “cases” (meaning nothing but a positive test of some sort) only a few handfuls of people in this city of 20 million have died. There was NEVER anything serious to worry about, disease-wise, just as there hasn’t been here since 2020.

    You think just plain stupid shit can’t happen in that country, or ANY country with people who have lots of Authoritah? Think again.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  109. SBaker says:

    Really, Covid is a coronavirus and flu in an influenza virus, but they are both the same according to your new system of classification? LOL. Is your personal classification your own system? Before the China virus was released, did you even know what a virus was? Here’s a tip: the elites are all vaccinated, specifically for this novel coronavirus and its variants.

    Ron simply loves to convince people that there is a conspiracy for every issue. The question remains, how is he making money from this site?

    • Replies: @Marcion
  110. @Ron Unz

    “There’s no real way to determine the identity of the individuals responsible, and I’m extremely skeptical that any of the leaders of the WEF or Big Pharma were aware of the plot.”

    Sorry (or not), there is far too much evidence in so many different categories available to destroy the official narrative(s), and then there is RFK’s “The Real Anthony Fauci”… I guess he never read that…

  111. @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Good point, Mr. Mateen, and I will bring up something that goes along with this. That would be the imbeciles that I see commenting that “America did not handle COVID right. Look what China did, look at Mexico.”, wherever, whatever.

    It’s not America’s job to handle JACK SQUAT. The idea of Federalism was one of the wisest that founders of any nation anywhere ever came up with. It’s like this:

    New York, the State, but especially the city, well, how’d they “handle” the Covid-one-niner? Considering their Communist/Totalitarian tendencies, and the Tower-of-Babel population of NYC, how could one have expected it to be anything BUT the big shitshow that it was?

    Then, you have the great State of Florida, led at the right time by a very decent Constitution-understanding gentleman who was not freaked out of his panties. There’s a population with still quite a few Southerners left, and lots of Conservatives, many escapees from places like NYC. Besides a few months in Spring ’20, Florida was pretty much a normal society throughout the last couple of years. Governor DeSantis pushed back against the Feds in support of his State. This is in a State known throughout the country to be one that has lots of old people too.

    So, don’t tell me about “America” doing this or that it should have done that. NYC is exhibit A of a location of panic, stupidity, and death. Florida was Exhibit B, a land of sanity. Where would you have rather been the last couple of years, NY City, Florida, or China?

    • Agree: Alden
    • Thanks: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  112. @Achmed E. Newman


    Ron has missed the Big Picture, but give him credit for developing this website.

    Ron wants you to know he went to Harvard. What does this say about Harvard?

  113. @Ron Unz

    “CDC statistics”

    and according to the selfsame ZOG, 6 million Jews perished during the “holocaust”.

    to repeat:

    big lies,

    and statistics.

    & BTW, the Jeffrey Goldberg blog (formerly The Atlantic magazine) now states that “Covid will always be with us, you’ll get it again and again….”

    just like (((muh holocaust))).

  114. Marcion says:

    Your inane, OT comments really weaken an otherwise provocative thread. I disagree with him too but I don’t shit on his porch.

  115. @Dream

    yes, ’tis true:

    the Zionists, same as the communist wing of organized Jewry, definitely have global ambitions. Just two wings….of the same kosher vulture.

  116. @Trumpeter

    As I stated previously here on Unz a while back, what explains this phenomena well without getting into a “kill the peasants” mindset is simply that the original requirements for the vaccines (mRNA) was that they be kept at incredibly low temps to insure safety and efficacy. Something like 70F below zero, or more. Then suddenly these requirements, being incapable of being met on a global scale, were miraculously no longer ‘required’. The safe temps for storage (and more importantly, for transport) continuously inched upwards towards damn near room temperature.

    My post surmised that the discrepancies that existed among safety in the various lots was attributable not to a nefarious plan, but simple gross incompetence, where certain lots were left on scorchingly hot tarmacs or other areas where they could get good and cooked, destroying efficacy and very possibly increasing their potential for adverse affects in those receiving such jabs. There were darn good reasons for those initial really low temperature/storage requirements, which it seems were simply thrown under the bus of expediency and profitability when confronted with the realities of modern local/global transport.

    I believe this is the likeliest explanation to account for these enormous discrepancies in adverse affects, with no need for conspiracy theories when simple human error, greed and stupidity will suffice….

    • Thanks: Jeffrey A Freeman
  117. hankjr says:

    But 1 million people HAVE NOT died from Covid in the US. The vast majority of the deaths reported as Covid deaths were in the elderly or infirm, who would have died anyway from their various other morbidities, but happened to test positive for Covid once they reached the hospital. The simple fact that US hospitals were incentivized to report deaths as Covid deaths should make people not trust the ‘official’ numbers. My bet is that in a few years, historical annual death counts will show that there were virtually NO excess deaths- that around the same amount of people died during 2020-21 as had in previous years.

    • Replies: @Marcion
  118. Today’s posts by Mr. Unz and Giraldi in essence deal with the same phenomenon – how can the obviously insane policies of Western Civilization’s leaders receive the overwhelming consent of their populace and institutions?
    The question is: Obvious to who?

    This is the comment I posted today at Giraldi’s post – “To a human being who responds to reason and logic, this article makes sense, Mr. Giraldi, but we’re far removed from that scenario – – the fact is we are governed by servants of Satan who cannot stop even if they wanted to. The real problem is that when the watchmen of society fall asleep or become wishful thinkers….DaBastahds infest and take rulership by default…..happens every freaking time!”

    To expand on that theme – Western Civilization was built on Christianity, Roman-Graeco law tradition and mostly in Europe. Remove any one of those 3 pillars and you have chaos as we are seeing now.
    Furthermore, the process destroying WC is enhanced by the systematic removal of society’s growth to maturity – which began in the church itself – the rest was easy peasy. You can read more on that subject if you word search MATURITY at the site of the link above.

    To summarize – you cannot convince anyone by reason and logic whose beliefs weren’t arrived at by the same. The presumptuous presuppositions and binary thinking of almost every human being will overrule any new evidence presented – that is the reality, like it or not. Believe me, that was perhaps the biggest surprise for me in the last 20 years and especially when I started my website and library seven years ago.
    Very simply – they ain’t interested – until it becomes personal, which it will! For most….that’s too late!

  119. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    RU points out that deaths attributed to Covid number more than twenty times U.S. servicemen deaths during the Vietnam War, and you sarcastically respond:

    … the median age of those dying from/with Covid is around 80, which … is a bit higher than the median age of the soldiers who died in Vietnam.

    If true, what of it?  In many cases old people do value their lives.

    60 is not so old yet the number of Covid deaths in the age range  55 to 64  is  0.42  times those in the range  75 to 84.

    I computed that ratio from numbers on the website of The Heritage Foundation for the U.S.  We want a ratio to help avoid any bias in the absolute numbers.  If the absolute numbers are over- or under- estimated by a certain factor, taking the ratio will wash it out.

    Comparing the even younger range 45 to 54  with  75 to 84  you get a ratio of  0.17.  That is still a substantial fraction.  I would consider even 0.05 substantial.

    Finally, if we compare the age range 0 to 64 with 65 to 85+ the ratio is  0.23.  You don’t have a point.

    • Replies: @allergic2katz
  120. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    As always, I agree with you Achmed.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  121. Marcion says:

    Coronaviruses are colds.
    Does calling it a cold sound better than ‘flu?’
    Libtards are invariably shallow thinkers…you are no exception.

  122. Alita99 says:

    Inter-National Finance

    Speculation? Sure. But what isn’t these days?

    “Shanghai today has the most extreme special economic zone policies of any city in China, policies that allow foreign corporations to engage in a broad range of activities without the authorization of the government.”

  123. Marcion says:

    Well said, my money is on that.

    Let’s say for sake of estimation, that this weaponized ‘cold’ killed 100,000 beyond wiping out the sickly, and maybe another 50,000 dead from pseudo vaccines. I’m guessing that accepting this premise Mr. Unz would feel that his Bioweapon Thesis would make less of an impression. In his mind, Covid’s general weakness as a disease (no big deal in the poorest countries with OTC drugs) weakens his argument.

    The insane exaggeration of Covid response (most governments) adds complexity but nevertheless must be addressed along side of the Bioweapon Thesis.

  124. @Chris Moore

    Respectfully, that’s not a case that ‘Jews did covid’.

    It’s a bunch of stories and conspiracy stuff and the only Jew mentioned is Epstein who’s connection to covid is a meeting with Bill Gates. Yes America have biowarfare labs around the world. Is it for Jews ? It could be I guess but it’s not demonstrated.

    There is some molecular/genetic/ecological/timing evidence about covid which is far stronger about non natural origin. I’m open to that. But that doesn’t prove Jews did it. I’m assuming Mr Unz’s information about Iran is correct, perhaps some case can be made about that as a target.

    I could consider Jews may have exploited covid in different ways. That seems possible.

    But in fact many of the key figures being pointed to by Mr Unz do not appear to be Jews. And Unz doesn’t support the Great reset and vax stuff. And he thinks AIDS is a hoax. So by your metric, Unz must be ‘covering up for the Jews’ on this topic’. Is that right ?

    9/11 is an example where some case can be made of Jewish involvement or at least awareness. Definitely with Iraq. And I think that should be exposed and talked about.

    But I’m always puzzled how paranoid a lot of commenters are on Unz and how much they want to protect their particular conspiracies, imputing the motives of anyone who questions them.

    I noticed someone even labeled me a troll here in this thread. Very hard to see what I said was trollish. Perhaps I do appear as a troll to someone who is addicted to the most exotic explanations and theories all the time.

    My view is you don’t necessarily need exotic explanations when it comes to these diseases and their effects on America and European countries in general.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  125. Petermx says:

    I don’t want to downplay the deaths but I can’t help having doubts about those figures, even from the CDC and WHO which before Covid-19 I considered trustworthy and I would not have doubted their figures. The mainstream media constantly gave misleading information about Covid-19, appearing to deliberately exaggerate how dangerous it was and deliberately made effective treatments like Hydroxychloroquine illegal or dangerous for doctors that administered it. I believe the CDC played a part in that. I also recall hearing several times that others appeared to deliberately exaggerate the number of deaths due to Covid-19. That is why I’m suspicious of the figures they are now citing.

  126. Alden says:

    Meh, Chinese governments have always taken serious stringent measures to accomplish whatever goals a current Chinese government deems important. Very efficient when it wants to be. Always was always will be.

  127. @Ron Unz

    I want to add what weight I can to the intelligent skeptics here who have already replied and are working to help Ron find his own skepticism where it is so clearly needed and so totally lacking.

    Paraphrasing Mustapha Mond, when you know a witness is lying about one thing (not to mention dozens) then why on earth would you trust them on anything else?

    I want the old Ron back! Hmm the pre-Covid Ron. What could be different between the current Ron and the pre-Covid Ron? The clot shot?

    If I recall correctly it is only thanks to RFK Jr. that you have any skepticism at all regarding standard vaccines. In reference to the extraordinarily rushed Covid “vaccines” (gene therapy) I don’t believe you’ve expressed any significant skepticism at all. Please correct me if I am wrong. And my apologies if I have overlooked such skepticism expressed by you.

    From what I have read of yours on the subject, I would have to guess that you are double vaxxed and probably boosted, perhaps even twice.

    If so, please let the users on this board convince you with the overwhelming evidence at their disposal, that you should never get another booster. And that you should get on a protocol to reduce the damage done to you already.

  128. @Tom Welsh

    Indeed. But on the topic of diversions – how’s a world war between Russia and Nato/US for a diversion? Effective enough? I tend to think so.

  129. @Zachary Smith

    Aha – so here Ron, we see you posting an Agree for Zachary Smith. It is fair to assume that you therefore agree with this “one of them admits he would have probably dies without those vaccinations”.

    This proves a point I made in my previous post – Ron you are NOT skeptical of these Covid shots.

    What about the possibility that it is the vaccinations that nearly killed the extended family member? And had the family member died prior to two weeks after the 2nd shot, you’d believe the CDC that the person died of Covid and not the shot.

    Even after reading RFK Jr’s book, you still trust these gene therapies that have NEVER worked in the decades they have been tried? And this time around they skipped the animal trials because SCIENCE!

    Dear God Ron, you are as blue-pilled on this subject as the NYT left is on Donald Trump.

  130. Alita99 says:

    For the last 75 years in America, what hasn’t been about the ‘Baby Boomers’ and their great sense of entitlement? And now, due to iffy lifestyles, chronic diseases, old age, and every variety and side-effect laden ‘pharma-cure’, they are dying. End of story.

  131. Blissex says:

    «our country has already suffered around 1.3 million “excess deaths,” nearly all of which were either directly or indirectly due to the disease outbreak that began in Wuhan in late 2019. […] Indeed, one policy analyst I know explicitly told me “Nobody wants to hear that the US did COVID.”»

    Whether the US did COVID or not, the much bigger point is that China-mainland with 4 times the population of the USA (and most of Europe) had less than 10,000 covid deaths, and other countries (such as Singapore or Finland or New Zealand or Thailand or Vietnam) had death rates 10-100 times lower than the USA (and most of Europe), and at the same time a much smaller loss of GDP, jobs and businesses.

    It astonishes me that Ron Unz focuses on the source of COVID far more than the terrible USA *response* to COVID.

    It also astonishes me (but a lot less) that most of the “Washington Consensus” press has been publishing a steady stream of attacks on the governments of the countries with much lower death rates than the USA, of course mostly that of China-mainland. Consider:
    “‘This is inhumane’: the cost of zero Covid in Shanghai”
    “- China’s Campaign to Wipe Out Covid Is Crushing Its Economy
    – Doubts Grow Over Chinese Statistics as Covid Ravages Economy
    – Shanghai’s Lockdown Missteps Undermine Financial Hub Ambitions
    – China’s Biggest Covid Failure Is Not Deploying an mRNA Vaccine
    – Outpouring of Resentment on Chinese Social Media Is Overwhelming Censors”
    “Covid Vaccine: How Big Pharma Saved the World in 2020
    Miracle On Ice: So much went terribly wrong this year, and then the most loathed industry gave us vaccines and hope.”>
    “Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
    Number of U.S. COVID deaths under Trump (with no vaccine, few treatments, and a more deadly variant): 396,837
    Number of U.S. COVID deaths under Biden (with universally available vaccine, better treatments, and a less deadly variant): 528,379
    (Note: this covers 10 months for Trump and a year for Biden, though the Biden-era death count was also higher after 10 months).
    Of course none of this Biden’s fault, while all 2020 COVID deaths were blamed on the Trump. Key: “shutting down” the virus was his core campaign vow.”

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  132. SBaker says:

    As a bicycle anarchist, you clearly have no expertise or understanding of infectious diseases. Why pretend to make yourself look educated? Does it salve your ego? Tell me what kind of work, if any, you actually do?

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  133. Alita99 says:

    For the last 75 years in America, what hasn’t been about the ‘Baby Boomers’ and their grand sense of entitlement? And now, due to a lot of iffy lifestyles, chronic diseases, old age, and every variety and side-effect laden ‘pharma-cure’ (along with all the PCR false-positive shenanigans), they are dying. End of story.

  134. SBaker says:

    Please enlighten me. Are you a virologist? What is your resident country?

  135. Anon[354] • Disclaimer says:

    “I expect this sort of context-free sensationalism from the MSM, not from Unz.”

    Adjust your expectations. Ron is one of the biggest covidiots online.

  136. lavoisier says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You make a good point about China. I just think their response and the response of other nations should be a matter of concern.

    When I first heard about the lock downs and what appeared to be a global panic I thought this was a bio-weapon.

    Nature published papers several years before the pandemic warning about weaponizing the coronavirus as a bio-weapon.

    I think the damn virus is a bio-weapon and its ability to mutate should be a concern.

    What I have not really understood is whether this virus being engineered may make it more likely to mutate to a more virulent strain over time. That remains my concern.

    And the other strains of Corona viruses, like SARS 1 and MERS, have very high case fatality rates.

  137. anon[201] • Disclaimer says:

    Blissex in 133 makes the useful distinction between two state crimes: COVID’s origin in banned biological weapons and the botched response. The two crimes can be viewed as complementary extermination campaigns. (Like WWI, which thinned out the ranks of proles who might liable to revolution.)

    This is why we’ll have to put a lot of beltway heads on sticks.

  138. @SBaker

    You spoke “Science”, without any rigour!

    Re: isolation of SARS-CoV-2.
    In January 2020, there was a paper on the isolation of SARS-C0V-2 in Wuhan.
    Nowhere, I mean nowhere is there any procedural rigour in eliminating all contaminemts from the original snot sample: other RNA viruses, fungal spores, epithelial cells, pollen ETC. before applying the OFF THE SHELF PRIMERS to elucidate the unknown RNA genome. Primers are created AFTER elucidating the entire genomic sequence, which means from the culturing of virus from a victim.
    RT PCR testing: you can find all the RNA you want but you will NOT find the RNA that is specific to the virus you claim. Explained in MUCH greater detail over the last two years.
    Experimental Gene Therapy Injections? F*ck you!
    Please STOP gas lighting.
    There is nothing worse than somebody acting superior when they do not have any evidence.

  139. Ron Unz is one of America’s great leaders, the Tom Paine of our age.

  140. @Chris Moore


    You’re a sharp guy, and I enjoy your observations, but you really need to brush up on the use of parentheses to connote Jews.

    First it’s supposed to be a triple parenthesis, not double.

    Second, the intent is to place the parentheses around words to assert the Jewish nature of something typically not understood to be Jewish, such as (((mainstream media))) or (((central banking))) or (((NAACP))). Accordingly, there’s no need to place them around the words “Jew” or “Jewish” or “Israel” or “Zionism” or “Mossad”; in fact, to do so is the epitome of redundancy.

    Your use of them around Zelensky is appropriate, although, for the well-informed readers of this website, probably also a bit on the redundant side.

    For what it’s worth.


  141. Did Ron Unz mention the safe and effective vaccine in the article or did I miss it? He’s done good work on the origins and purpose of COVID 19 but seems to have a blindspot when it comes to the mRNA potion. For some reason he can’t see the connection between the release of the bioweapon and the vaccine that’s not a vaccine. Boomer blindness?

  142. Sarita says:

    One million dead in the US is very sad
    The US slaughtered 2 million innocent Iraqis just a few years ago.
    Iraq’s population was, at the time, 27 million which means that 7% of its population were killed.
    If 7% of Americans were to die the number would be 18 million americans.
    Mr Kissinger, an American hero says that the dead were almost all useless eaters.
    Ms Madeleine Albright, also an american hero said killing all those kids (around a half a million) was worth it and justified.
    So what in hell are you crying about always blaming the Jews?

  143. Boll says:

    Covid is for vaccines what the weapons of mass destruction were for the Iraq war. All made up.

  144. JWalters says:

    Several years ago I told a retired WWII vet there was considerable evidence that the JFK assassination was an inside job. He looked shaken, and replied, “I don’t want to think that could happen in this country.” He was so bothered that I dropped the subject.

    The scope of the evil control over Western societies is so extensive that it boggles the mind. It is literally beyond any plot in a James Bond novel. So the average person, after getting their “news” and “history” for years from the Mafia Stream Media, needs some very compelling evidence, presented very simply and clearly, along with time to let it sink in, in order to change their emotional attachments and instincts about reality.

    I agree with you about there being a larger (very large) pattern. I suspect Ron is trying to create a solid bite-sized story that can get a toe-hold in the public’s awareness. From such a hole in the Mafia information dam, cracks in the dam can emerge and spread, and eventually the dam will give way.

    I’d like to see several such holes in the dam simultaneously – COVID, Ukraine, 9/11, JFK & RFK, Israel.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  145. JWalters says:

    Those American atrocities were done by an America that is controlled by Israel.

    For more information on this see War Profiteer Story

  146. The US would not have released SARS-COV-2 unless it had cast-iron plausible denial.

    The best way to achieve this was to place a contract for “gain of function” experiments with a foreign laboratory that it knew had inadequate biosecurity. And the issues at Wuhan were well known:

    Two years before the novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S. Embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats. The cables have fueled discussions inside the U.S. government about whether this or another Wuhan lab was the source of the virus — even though conclusive proof has yet to emerge.

    In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consul general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  147. Biff says:
    @Zachary Smith

    . (one of them admits he would have probably died without those vaccinations)

    He/she could’ve said the exact opposite and it would carry just as much weight, because it is impossible to prove.

  148. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Vagrant Rightist

    First allow me to set you straight on a couple of things. There are authentic Jews who generally follow the no nonsense values of Moses (very rare), and then there are ((Jew)) organized criminals, grifters, killers and thieves who, with their stooges, comprise ZOG and “Israel.” These are “Jew” frauds. sophomoric ((Jews)) are also frauds, but not necessarily criminals.

    I obviously consider ((Jews)) the Synagogue of Satan. Do I care what crime they’re going to be nailed for? Not really. I only care that they’re brought to justice bigly.

    So you can play sophomoric and shyster games to shill for them, that’s fine. You can go into minutia all you want to cloud the issue. A lot of ((Jew)) stooges do, and have been doing so for a long, long time. But it got old a long time ago. ((Jews)) got old a long time ago. The world has had enough, and its starting to choke off they’re shysterism on the way to something bigger (in my studied opinion).

  149. …the alleged “virus” isn’t the “excess death generator”. Most of the deaths associated with the virus were really just murder. The 1000% increase in the use of Midazolam in nursing and care homes killed a bunch of elderly, which set the stage for the fear campaign of Covid. The use of Remdemisivir and ventilators resulted in the murder of millions more souls trapped in “Hospitals”. Then they kept coding every death as Covid, regardless of how idiotic it was. That set the stage for acceptance of the lethal gene shots…which is what is killing so many.

    • Agree: Rich
  150. @Mark Hunter

    The point is that comparing (a) the numbers of soldiers who died in a war to (b) the number of people who died with/of a respiratory virus over a two-year span is like comparing apples to oranges. It’s not a meaningful comparison. For one thing, it completely glosses over the huge discrepancy in life years lost.

    You can look at this chart and see that nearly half of those who died with/of Covid are 85 or older.

    I’ll conclude this post by noting that the use of big round numbers like 1,000,000 or 6,000,000 for purposes of emotional manipulation is a very slimy thing to do. As much work as Ron Unz has done to expose the propaganda surrounding “The Holocaust,” you’d think he would know better (or at least do better) than to pull such a trick in one of his own articles.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  151. anarchyst says:

    There have been many claims about the origin of viruses, especially today’s latest
    “COVID-19 coronavirus”.

    However, there is a long history of viruses throughout human history and false claims as to their points of origin.

    In fact, the “1918 Spanish flu” virus actually originated in the United States of America and was spread to Europe during the First World War, transmitted by the U. S. military during American military transports to Europe. It was an experimental meningitis “vaccine” which spread the disease. The commonly-accepted misinformation that this virus originated in Europe is false and can easily be proven by careful research.

    A majority of “1918 Spanish flu pandemic” deaths were not from the virus itself, but were from the then common practice of mask-wearing. In fact, “mask-wearers” were being buried by non-mask-wearers.


    You see, just as is the case today, breathing in one’s own exhalations is dangerous and is being promoted by the misguided government-imposed mandates to wear masks.

    99% of the deaths during the “1918 Spanish flu pandemic” were a result of bacterial pneumonia, NOT from the virus itself. As there were no treatments for bacterial pneumonia in those days, the death rate was horrendously high. Those who contracted the flu, but not pneumonia survived. As is the case today, almost everyone that dies with COVID-19 dies from complications from other causes, NOT from the virus itself.

    Fast forward to today, with our latest “COVID-19 pandemic”.

    Today’s “Chinese COVID-19 pandemic” actually originated at the American bioweapons research facility at Fort Detrick Maryland and was purposely brought to China by an American military “trade delegation” where it was released into the Chinese population. Biowarfare at its worst…

    The “COVID-19 vaccines” being pushed are “game changers” as they are replete with substances which will materially change human DNA, unlike previous vaccines which were merely weakened or killed virus remnants which would evoke a protective antibody response.

    Sound familiar?

    Today’s “COVID-19 pandemic” is actually a “plandemic” being used to take down a legally elected president and to usher in a “new world order” in which medical tyranny will be used to subjugate an entire world population, using FEAR as a weapon.

    Today’s “pandemic” is misnamed as it does not meet the definition of a “pandemic” but is being touted as such for political reasons—nothing more. Observe non-medical types such as Bill Gates and others touting untested vaccines with questionable substances, mask-wearing, and other social restrictions such as (selective) business closures, lockdowns and social distancing.

    For one, Bill Gates is not a “doctor”, has no medical training, and is a major proponent of “depopulation”–genocide. Gates is a “silver spoon” recipient, both of his parents being proponents of forced sterilization and eventual world depopulation.

    In fact, Bill Gates’ “vaccination schemes” have resulted in not only diseases being spread, but the use of birth-control and sterilization agents surreptitiously being a part of Gates’ “vaccination” schemes without “informed consent” being a part of the vaccination protocol speaks VOLUMES. Recipients of Gates’ “vaccines” were not informed that they were being sterilized—a violation of the Nuremberg protocols on “informed consent”.

    It is easy to see that there is much more going on than a response to a minor seasonal “flu virus”.

    Its about CONTROL and eventual human genocide—nothing more. The “jabs” are genocidal poisons.


    • Agree: Adam Smith
  152. If there were 1.2 million extra deaths in 2021 it was because of the lock downs not covid. Jew drug makers killed a few hundred thousand extra for sure. Ron Unz is once again bending the truth about the jew flu. Covid is the flu and always has been. We did not have a real pandemic and anyone who thinks we did is retarded. A pandemic where the businesses owned by the oligarchs were deemed essential while mom and pops were forced to shut down? How stupid do you have to be to fall for that? That’s only one of a long list of lies and irrational things one has to believe to come to the conclusion there was a pandemic.

    If you know someone who died it does not mean anything. The flu kills almost 100,000 people every year. They picked covid because they knew anyone who has had a cold or flu 5 times was likely to test positive. How convenient for them. The jew banker mob got a 4.7 trillion \$ bailout at the beginning. This mob owns the media and the medical establishment. Not to mention they are/control the deep state as well. The people who got 4.7 trillion \$’s and control the media the hospitals and the gov’t claimed we had a pandemic. Shocking!

    No one will try to refute what is written above.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  153. @allergic2katz

    I stand by what I said and will just address your claim that the use of round numbers must be intended to manipulate people emotionally. Actually in this case the numbers indicate the precision of the quantity under consideration. Take an extreme case: if someone said 1,120,547 people died of Covid last year, you would know they don’t know what they are talking about because the situation doesn’t justify such precision. Sometimes only an “order of magnitude,” or power of ten, estimate is justified due to the difficulty of obtaining reliable data.

    And anyway, 1,000,000 doesn’t seem to me more emotional than 1,120,547 or 987,654.

    Even if you were correct, your rudeness (“you’d think he would know better … than to pull such a trick”) makes you look stupid and undermines your point.

    • Troll: allergic2katz
  154. @bike-anarkist

    “Individual immunity”. I was exposed and exposed and exposed, early on in the process and always tested negative. Of course, though in my 70’s, I’ve always watched my diet, try to get sufficient exercise and NEVER took a flu shot.

  155. @James N. Kennett

    You believe a Thanatopian ‘diplomatic’ cable slandering China, do you? Such gullibility. It looks like ‘scene-setting’ to me. Yeah, dem ‘gooks’ is so dumb, eh Gomer.

  156. @Sarita

    That was just children under five years. There were hundreds of thousands of other, older, children, too. I do hope the Evil hag is roasting in Hell.

  157. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    So if the covid bioweapon was released as Ron claims by US deep state actors under Trump, does he believe these actors took the RNA jab and boosters like they claim, e.g Fauci, Gates, Pompeii etc?
    Or they had a different special antidote in case there was a blowback as Ron thinks it happened.

  158. @Dumbo

    The fact you parrot Deep State’s characterization of RUSSIA’S response to Blood soaked paleo savage Jew coup in Ukraine is evidence of your simple minded propagandized brain.
    Let’s call the US’s involvement in WW I Wilson’s War
    WW II – Roosevelt’s War
    Korean War -Truman’s War
    Vietnam – Johnson’s War
    Iraq War I – Bush’s War
    Iraq War II -Bush/Cheney War
    No sillier than Putin’s War

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  159. Anonymous[997] • Disclaimer says:

    @Ron Unz

    Interesting thread. Looks like APOBEC is used to simulate passage through human/animals by inducing mutations. This same process could have been used for covid and looks like it may have been used for monkeypox.

  160. @Realist

    Then why do you subscribe to them…why do you read them?

    Because he gets the basic facts/Narrative from the predominant source (as we all, ultimately, do) and then uses his “mind” to distinguish truth from fiction, suppression from exaggeration or propaganda.

    Using one’s “mind” is quite useful. You should try it sometime, Realist. It’s invigorating, really. I know you’ve never done it before, even when you were earning your magical rainbow Unicorn STEM degree, but it really is worth the effort.

    • Replies: @Realist
  161. @Marcion

    You said this about commenter ‘SBaker’ (aka ‘half-baked):

    Libtards are invariably shallow thinkers

    I assume by ‘Libtard’ you mean a retard who pretends to be a Libertarian – not that half-baked Sbaker has said anything remotely Libertarian in the entire time he/she has been here.
    Sbaker is known to be a shill for Big Pharma and the Zio establishment – the antithesis of Libertarianism.

    Of course, as everyone knows, genuine Libertarians like Dr Ron Paul, Senator Rand Paul and Congressman Thomas Massie, have been at the forefront of exposing the vaxx tyranny since Day 1 (not to mention exposing U.S hypocrisy in supporting the Judeo-Fascist Ukrainian regime).

    Best you remove the ‘Lib’ prefix from the word Libtard – lest you inadvertently smear a subset of society [Libertarians] that are leading the way on pretty much all the major issues.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  162. Goddo says:


    It required no super sleuth detective work, no Sherlock Holmes to uncover Moriarty ! Virtually everything about what the World Economic Forum (WEF) says and does is in the public domain. This fact of ‘full disclosure’ by so-called ‘elites’ has made me increasingly suspicious and uncomfortable over the past year, and has lead me to the conclusion that this Great Reset nonsense is nothing more than just another decoy, although its immediate effects are no doubt real. Any time the Cabal chooses to make accessible their nefarious plans, as is clearly the case with the WEF, i have to pause and attempt to construct for myself a bigger, yet simpler overview. The first question i have been asking myself is “How is the WEF different from the Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg? Are they all one in the same?” While many of us have certainly heard of the Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg, we’ve never had access whatsoever to any footage of their meetings or transcripts of their discussions. Yet, when it comes to WEF and DAVOS, we have countless hours of footage to draw from. This fact tells me something very important and pivotal. The true Cabal WANTS us to be aware of the WEF agenda, which in turn tells me that what is being shared by and through this forum, i.e. the WEF, is controlled information, custom designed for the consumption of the newly awakened. It is managed disclosure !


    It would seem that the Cabal, in many ways, is somewhat hamstrung to proceed with their actual plans until a large enough portion of the population begins to wake up and feeds on this managed, controlled information. Consider for a moment that the WEF agenda is the trigger to the general awakening. In the longer term, the Cabal realizes that they could never sustain the Great Reset agenda as is being currently presented. Success would in all probability only ever be localized, and even then, it would devolve into all out rebellion, as we are seeing emerge in various sites and modes around the world, most notably in the form of non-compliance. With the spirit of non-compliance ever present, especially within certain peoples’ hard-wired coding, loopholes will be found and exploited, triggering a
    different kind of awakening altogether.

    This is why the WEF agenda seems to be crawling along at a snail’s pace at best. It progresses so slowly because it is not the intended end goal of the Cabal. They can turn the screws on us by raising energy prices and interest rates, putting the squeeze on by way of inflation and shortages of commodities, but as soon as the world economy comes to a crashing halt, the mechanisms that have been set in place to enable them to control and manipulate us will equally be rendered useless and obsolete. Their aim is to put the fear of a total collapse into the awakened, when, in fact, the impending collapse will directly benefit the awakened the most. What prevents many off-grid minded and awakened preppers from greater success is in the lack of numbers at present to create an alternative system of trade and commerce.

    As soon as the current set of fiat currencies becomes truly worthless, whether by government decree, default or another form of destruction, the average person then becomes an off-grid prepper by default. It’s always interesting to see how Hollywood depicts an apocalyptic event sinking people into civil war and chaos, making people believe that such an event would not be in the world’s best interest. The last thing in the world that the Cabal wants is for people to begin doing things for themselves in any significant way. Sovereignty of self is anathema to any globalist or self-respecting Cabal elitist!

    Getting back to Bilderberg et al, it is my guess that what is discussed at this highly secretive meeting is what they plan to initiate once a substantial enough majority are finally awakened to the horrors of the decoy reset agenda known as WEF. I call this phase: Operation Disclosure. As the awakening begins to really take off, once energy prices, interest rates, and inflation gain significant enough momentum to make the average Jack and Jill sit up and take note, certain lawsuits and other populist means of pushback will gain greater traction, since financial panic will drown out any and all other forms of media propaganda. This momentum will then swiftly awaken the most deeply entrenched of compliant ‘normies’, who will have no choice but to acknowledge that things are ‘going to hell in a handbag’, i.e. going from bad to much, much worse. It seems that an actual, full-on collapse will probably be forestalled by what is referred to as ‘Team White Hats’, who, at the brink of collapse will emerge on the scene with sweeping reforms that have long been in the preparatory stages awaiting launch. These could include digital currencies and new laws to access of various sites and services.

    It is these ‘reforms’ for which we need to be preparing, since it will be a grand window of opportunity to finally free ourselves from the clutches and reach of the Cabal, who will be at the forefront of this disclosure movement as trusted voices, false leaders and heroes. I can only write in general terms as to how i think things will proceed from this point, since i was not a fly on the wall at the last Bilderberg Conference! Perhaps the elites themselves are not completely in the know either, since even if they have planned for every conceivable and anticipated scenario, human consciousness has an almost comedic way of surprising even the most prepared and persistent of parasites. So while it will be the responsibility of the Cabal to trigger the general false awakening, the genuine awakening will be taking place simultaneously. Understanding this most sketchy general outline excites me, as prices rise and things begin to appear more and more hopeless for Everyman. We’re in a type of head-on-head collision game of ‘Chicken’, where at the very last second, the Cabal will blink, hit the panic button and change course, since it was all only ever a bluff. How much longer can they sustain this bluff? It seems that right now they are pulling out all the stops with fake wars, school shootings, and monkeypox pandemics. I also don’t buy what they say is going on in China right now. I obviously have no way to confirm my opinion, but from the footage i’ve seen so far of their so-called lockdowns, the whole thing seems fake. Lockdowns are a one-time trump card that they’ve already overplayed to an absurd extreme, and intentionally so. The Chinese lockdown propaganda is a wakeup call, specifically for the West’s consumption.

    Project Disclosure is about to be launched.

    • Replies: @Kali
  163. @IreneAthena

    Anyone who wants to can fill in that blank here…

    TBH, I think Mr. Unz’ patience and yes, enthusiasm, in dealing with the Corona Chan subject is adorable.

    But (like any endearingly eccentric uncle) he does seem to have a blind spot (or two).

    Dr. David Martin, on the other hand, has zeroed in on the core of the matter with laser precision…

    My personal concern in all of this is that the legal pushback against the Satanic Globalists is either non-existent or proceeding too slowly.

    While we collectively argue amongst ourselves and butt our heads against corrupt and incompetent judiciaries and criminally complicit corporations and government agencies and medical institutions, the Globalists push ahead relentlessly with each successive phase of the Great Reset, more quickly than we can apparently respond.

    Observe how easily they were able to openly rehearse the “deadly Monkeypox pandemic” in March 2021, and publicly schedule its release for May 2022, which they have now done blatantly and with the full complicity of the mainstream media and apparently with little to no resistance or pushback or even comprehension from the teeming lemmings.

    As Dr. Reiner Fuellmich has repeatedly observed, very few judicial systems remain anywhere around the world which have not been already hijacked by the Globalists – with only some of those perhaps in India and the USA offering any hope of holding the Corona Chan culprits accountable.

    But time is ticking, and the Great Reset just keeps rolling along.

    IMO we won’t be safe until every last one of the Satanic Globalists and their numerous willing accomplices are all hanging from lamp posts – and according to Martin Armstrong, that’s not likely until sometime around 2032.

    • Thanks: Kali
  164. Pissedman says:
    @Tom Verso

    Both the BMJ and the NJM have stated that up to 80% of the papers they publish are unreproducible prior to Covid. Meaning that they are incomplete, factually incorrect or fraudulent. so that’s where they started from and they only degraded from there, such that probably 100% of papers were fraudulent.

    Name one thing stated by the CDC and FDA and Fauci that were not completely 180 degrees incorrect as more data was obtained. They wrote papers without any data smashing any preemptive medications, Hydroxy and Ivermectin. They then claimed that Natural Immunity was worse than Vaccine…which has never happened in all of human history! That’s all we need to know. Yes, the USA is funding numerous bio labs worldwide as Proxy to get around the Bioweapons agreements. All should be prosecuted accordingly.

    Any deep dive on vaccines shows that the technology is not well understood and virtually no real blinded safety studies are available. When they do start some, they find problems and then try to hide the data. The Godfather of Vaccines, Plotkin, admits he has not even done the basic testing of aluminum, get his textbook that is forwarded by Gates….or watch his deposition to see the astoundingly unscientific thinking.

    I suspect that if SHTF, many will be on special lists and suffer the wrath of the mob.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  165. Absolute horseshit ! The author is still buying in the mainstream fantasy about a million deaths. What a fool !
    Sleep well Ron.

  166. Kali says:
    @Zachary Smith

    I have had three extended family members who became violently ill in the past four weeks from their exposure to Covid, despite their vaccinations. (one of them admits he would have probably died without those vaccinations)

    Should/could that not read “because. of their vaccinations”?

    Your relative cannot possibly know if it was the “vaccines” that saved him or that sickened him. – Given the numbers of “fully vaxxed” people hospitalised with “covid” compered to unvaxxed, the chances are high that the vaxx, aka “clotshot”, is cousing more harm than it is porported to address.

    The problem is ongoing

    One of many, sadly.

    Best regards,

  167. Drt says:

    Medicine 101: Diagnosis is made up of 1 history. 2. Physical examination and 3. Special investigations. The arbiter of truth is the post mortem. Corona is just one of six common respiratory viruses. The physical. examination does not allow distinction. The antigen test is flawed to the point of causing more harm than good. Antibody testing was not done in the majority of cases. Where is the data confirming laboratory viral replication. Where is the data from post mortem examinations- done in far less than 10% of cases. Epidemiology and statistics are compatible bed fellows

  168. @Ultrafart the Brave

    But time is ticking, and the Great Reset just keeps rolling along.

    The so-called Great Reset happened in 2020. What we have going forward is a keystone cops comedy while the retards in power point their fingers at one another and take petty retributions here and there.

    For the little people it was pretty much a non-event if you managed to avoid everything except for the part where prices doubled. If you were really clever (I am not) you could have made out like a gangster with advantageous investments.

  169. Kali says:

    Dear Hum-wa-wa,

    You appear to have inadvertantly landed on the wrong website. For mainstream media and official ((globalist)) talking points try Wa-po, NYT (nit) or The Guardian.

    With love,

  170. The so-called Great Reset happened in 2020.

    That’s an interesting take on the situation.

    Labels aside, it doesn’t appear that the likes of Klaus Schwab and creepy Bill are done with us yet – not by a long shot. The recent failed attempt by the WHO to take over the world is just their latest effort, and they haven’t quit.

    As for this…

    For the little people it was pretty much a non-event if you managed to avoid everything except for the part where prices doubled.

    … good luck to everyone who managed to dodge the bullet, but there are now millions of people permanently injured and a similar number now dead all over the world thanks to the efforts of the Globalists over the last two years, with the bulk of the casualties from the fake “vaccines” yet to come – not to mention those who lost their health, homes and livelihoods.

    Meanwhile, we have numerous “Quarantine Camps” now dotted across Australia and they’re building even more. The game isn’t over yet.

    My advice to anyone who give’s a rat’s arse is – don’t get too comfortable.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  171. Statistician Genevieve Briand, PhD, of Johns Hopkins University could not find ANY excess deaths ALL CAUSES in 2021 when the data was adjusted for the population bulge of the elderly due to the Baby Boom.


    The 1+ million COVID deaths for 2021 is a self fulfilling prophecy, but one that Mr. Unz and others want to believe in. Why?

  172. Dumbo says:
    @Mustapha Mond

    The fact that “the flu disappeared” in 2020-21 is all evidence one needs to conclude that this is all a scam.


    Supposedly it disappeared because the masks and lockdowns that were useless against COVID worked against the flu… Yeah, right.

    Then you have an increase in excess deaths AFTER the vaccine rollout. And the flu supposedly came back… Ok…

    Better explanation: it was all a statistical scam.

    And yet, EVEN NOW you can’t board a train or a plane in Canada if you’re older than 12 without “proof of vaccination”.

    It’s ridiculous, it’s absurd.

  173. I am convinced that covid 19 was a joint venture between the U.S and China. Both the ccp and the deep state had much to gain from the outbreak. The fact they dont seem to be on the same page in regards to Russia/Ukraine doesnt mean they werent on the same page with covid.

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @Olivier1973
  174. Anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    “while failing to find even a single strong argument on the other side.”

    I generally find your contrarian arguments quite persuasive, but this one is out to lunch. How, in your view, did members of the US government, however deranged and deluded, expect to profit by unleashing a pandemic on China and Iran? Did they imagine that it would not spread? How could they have imagined that? It’s a pandemic, for Christ’s sake. And why would they have chosen a virus developed at the Wuhan Lab? Were they trying to frame the Chikes? If so, where did they get the virus? Are you saying that this has all worked out according to their evil plan? Or did it somehow go sideways? I just don’t see it.

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  175. Dream says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    You know all that from your American town of 10,000, I assume.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
  176. Ed Case says:

    Yeah, that’s interesting.
    The Unvaxxed Generation [1911-1940] lived a hell of a long time, the mildly Vaxxed half Generation [1941-1956] are doing okay too, the more heavily Vaxxed generations after 1956 are falling over in their Fifties.
    The Vaccination Protocol for a Newborn in Australia at the moment is 46 Vaccinations by their 5th birthday.

  177. AUTOLAND says:
    @Bo Bo

    I see that Mr. Unz is still buying the contagious covid scam and maybe the next joke, the monkeypox outbreak exercise attempting to go live. Meanwhile, not too long after the so called SARS-CoV-2 outbreak, in preserved kidney biopsies going back as far as a couple of decades, researchers recently detected the so called SARS-CoV-2 virus going back as far as 1999! Really? What did they detect and what’s does PCR detect and what’s the difference between exosomes and viruses?

    And about that Spanish Flu, Dr. Rosenau’s 1921 report of 300 US Navy volunteers in a clinical study a few years prior, showed that this flu could not be spread among the volunteers. Snot and saliva swapping, coughing in faces…no spread. And smallpox..the vaccine didn’t make a difference based on first hand accounts still available to be studied.

    “These conclusions, however, contradict the specific results of each of the three series of experiments reported within the document, where we find that NONE of the volunteer soldiers exposed to the fluids of patients with symptoms of Spanish Flu contracted the Spanish Flu symptoms.”

    Ron, buddy, you’ve been played as your all victims of this gay, contagious virus theory. Your realities are based on historical frauds.

    And about the bioweapon potential, nothing even close mimicking self replicating (contagions) has ever come of any “gain of function” BS and nothing ever will. The civil warring, hostile ruling class should just stick to what they know, poisoning wells.

  178. Chris Moore says: • Website

    did members of the US government, however deranged and deluded, expect to profit by unleashing a pandemic on China and Iran.

    The Cabal is profiting, via the “vaccines.” They obviously intended that they would become part of the health care regiment, and go on ad infinitum.

    Did they care if the old and infirm or obese and unhealthy died? No, not anymore than they cared about all the “Islamofacists” killed in the “War on Terror” they lied the US into, or the goyim killed in the first two world wars.

    Would some of the made-men die? Yes, but that’s a chance they all took. High stakes poker.

    And why would they have chosen a virus developed at the Wuhan Lab?

    So they could blame the Chinese and their “wet markets,” which is exactly what they did. And Wuhan was just where it was released. Who knows where it was developed.

    Goyim/Plebes, you need to get it through your thick skills: these “people” are diabolical. We already knew that from all of the evil and wars that the ((Neocons)) have perped. Why would you think they wouldn’t double and triple down, especially given that the Internet is onto the ((Jewish)) scent?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  179. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Shafar Nullifidian

    In that list Vietnam would be more accurately characterized as Kennedy / Johnson’s War.

  180. Official Narrative Covid death counts from CDC:
    2020: 385,671
    2021: 462,710
    2022: 156,066 (so far)
    Total: 1,004,447

    Very curious that the mRNA vaccines (a scientific marvel) didn’t do more. Look at every African nation; of over 50 countries only Tunisia has a Covid death rate of >2000 per million (US has a death rate of 3,083 per million. Only 5 African countries have Covid death rates of over 1,000 per million.
    Africa has a Covid vaccination rate of 15% (; some sites claim as much as 17%). Quite likely Africans in general now have excellent natural immunity to most SARS-CoV2 strains, a result of avoiding the Covid vaccines. Even South Africa, one of the more advanced of the continent, with a relatively high Covid death rate of 1667 per million, only has 36% at least partially vaccinated (vs 78% in the US).

    A recent re-analysis of the Covid vaccine initial clinical trial data on which emergency approvals were granted (and which the FDA wanted to bury for 75 years) was done by Danish researchers. It is now clear why the FDA wanted to keep the results secret for 75 years!
    To increase power of their statistical analyses mRNA vaccine (Pfizer and Moderna, most used of the vaccines in the US) results were pooled, as were adenovirus-based vaccines (Astra Zeneca, not used in the US, and Johnson & Johnson, used in the US (single jab) but discouraged now by the FDA.) The mRNA vaccines in randomized, double-blind placebo controlled trials (the Gold standard, although a whistleblower working with the British Medical Journal claims Pfizer trials were fraudulent!) Even so, the mRNA vaccine trials failed: Of ~37,000 vaccinated, there were 2 Covid deaths. In the placebo groups there were 5 Covid deaths (yes, the Most Dangerous Pandemic in American History had a death rate of only of only 0.0135% in these trials). This 2.5-fold protection (Biden claimed 200-fold last July) was not even statistically significant. There was a lot of talk about mRNA vaccine protection from Covid death, but if any, it is mild (about ~10-fold based on Singapore’s better data).
    (The Danes were more interested in a pronounced protection by the adenovirus vaccines against all-cause mortality; non-specific protection by vaccines is their research area.)
    Chris Martenson had a nice layman’s explanation of the Danish paper, but seems to have been disappeared by youtube.
    The CDC is now waving their arms about continuing Covid deaths in the Elderly (since the start, the only group along with the seriously ill at risk of dying). They claim they need more boosters; but these only seem effective for a month or so.
    Natural immunity from Covid infection is likely the only escape from the Pandemic. The CDC is very secretive about the data, and we don’t know if vaccinated Americans develop REAL immunity after exposure to Covid strains.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  181. Ron, please use your powers of observation to consider the increase in all mortality deaths. The (flawed) PCR tests drove the case numbers. The treatment protocol drove the death count, and now adverse events connected to the vaccines are just piling up the numbers.
    Here is a link to Pfizer CEO Bourla talkung to Klaus Schwab. This 2019. He says their goal is to reduce the population 50% by 2023.

    Video Link

  182. @Ultrafart the Brave

    What do you think the compliance % with the vaccine bio-weapon is?

    I know a lot of people who didn’t go for it. They maybe didn’t even get 50% obedience. Attitudes @ the universe-masters may have undergone the largest reset of any.

    If I was Fauci I would be weighing the possibility of Nuremberg II trials executions.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  183. I am with Mike Whitney that it’s a global genocide by injections meant to kill and with more murders by corrupted hospitals administering a lethal protocol and withholding cheap and effective anti-viral treatment. At the same time I read today that 79% of Americans believe the ‘vaccines’ safe and effective. I have no idea if this statistic is accurate, but it comes from somewhere in this disheartening mess of mainstream, narrative-based misreporting where you can view every pretty and popular lie about everything: This is the crap that most people who read encounter, and it’s just TV Land’s print version. So this is the media and censorship system that informs one and nearly all and is so effective at obscuring we the witting.
    Who or what is at the apex of this globe of evil? All the king’s Nazis and all the bad Jews could not commit a crime like this, a crime so encompassing and so hideous that I am becoming persuaded that David Icke may be onto the ultimate dark reality when he points to half-human, half-reptilian monsters of immense life span who control the profoundly evil human controllers hiding under the Vatican and under London who in turn control Gates, Schwab, the vax-pushing Pope Francis et al. – all the people we’re allowed to see. Would you show your face?

  184. @michael888

    Here in Austfailia, the AZ adenovirus vector vaccine was locally manufactured, and could be transported and stored at much higher temperatures than the mRNA gene therapy shots. But a carefully contrived scare campaign over the alleged propensity of AZ vaccines to cause cerebral clots, brought about by ‘thrombosis with thrombocytopenia’, demonised the AZ vaccines.
    That, in Europe, the mRNA gene therapies had caused at least as many such clots, but mostly in the splanchic (ie visceral) circulation, (and equally as dangerous), was NEVER mentioned, of course, by the MSM vermin, moron, scum. The ‘regulatory’ authorities, displaying total loyalty to BigPharma and The Program, have now ceased use of AZ, and we have the ‘choice’ of mRNA gene therapies, or, if you insist, Novavax. You’d have to be brain dead not to see the startling contradictions, but, thankfully, 99% of the population are thus blessed.

    • Agree: michael888
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  185. @Chris Moore

    SARS CoV2 was carefully crafted. We are yet to see the long-term complications of infection with this chimaeric, engineered, virus, particularly in league with the ‘vaccines’. The spike protein itself is cytotoxic, and has numerous tricks in its book, including disrupting DNA repair in cell nuclei, bacteriophagy (ie it can infect bacteria)and inserting itself into the host’s DNA. Prospects are grim.

  186. @Dumbo

    COVID was a psy-op, in the sense that what was really damaging was what done “to fight COVID”, including lockdowns, masks, tests, ventilation, vaccines and vaccine passports, and not so much COVID itself. Left alone, COVID would cause worldwide what it caused to the Amish, that is, not much.

    Totally agree. Horrendous, but simple and obvious too.

    The fact that the response to the fake emergency was so damaging and contrary to sound medical practice shows the murderous intent. The fact that such a counterproductive and ridiculous response was instantly on the same day adopted nearly worldwide shows that it was all orchestrated somehow at the highest supra-national level.

    The genocide and accompanying crimes would not have been possible without absolute control of mainstream media promulgating junk science and silencing and censoring qualified scientists and doctors like Mike Yeadon who tried to save us. This media control is what makes our job and duty so hard today.

    Despite the unprecedented magnitude and horror of this crime, a majority of people remain unaware of it at all. It’s not unimportant, but in the heat of this battle it’s not the main concern how the bug was contrived.

    • Agree: Kali
    • Replies: @Hartmann
  187. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Thanks UF the Brave. I always enjoy your comments, am usually in full agreement, unless they concern something I don’t know enough about.

    I don’t know, know, know that Unz knows, knows, knows, but I suspect his…oh, I like this word….his hesitancy to “fill in that blank” (.lol) has less to do with blind spots and more to do with the fact that in the Clown World Religion, the unpardonable sin is Disrespecting the Vaccine. Ron Unz regularly commits venial and even mortal sins in his Clown (American Pravda) World series, but even if one such as he recognizes Clown World qua Clown World, one will not try to run a website and D the V, if one wishes to maintain that site without running the risk of, for example, the Clown Worlders making that site no longer accessible when users type “” into the address bar of their browsers.

    An example: a Western “infidel” may travel to a country ruled by very strict Islamic fundamentalists. Even though this female may feel no moral obligation whatsoever to keep her head veiled, she will, in order to avoid Very Unpleasant Consequences, not go about in public bare-headed. Now, inside, in the company of people she trusts, she may freely go unveiled while she rails against the fact that the veiling rule exists, but outside, she covers her head and keeps her mouth shut about it.

    But I might be completely wrong about the man’s motivations.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  188. Say what you want about excess deaths, but official COVID death counts are pure junk science. Since the initial deaths happened in the U.S., they’ve allowed “probable” deaths to be counted as COVID. People with heart attacks, cancer, in car wrecks and even homicide/suicide cases have added to the COVID death count. Also consider the horrific protocols–putting people on respirators as anything but a last resort, remdesivir, etc–no wonder so many died. Of course the vast majority of them had co-morbidities, something else the MSM tried to hide.

  189. @Truth Vigilante

    Au contraire….. the word ‘libtard’ means a mentally retarded Liberal.
    It does not reference a libertarian.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
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  190. @the grand wazoo

    Fronting specifically edited video clips should be some sort of crime. It’s done online all the time in order to push particular agendas. It’s a FAKE tactic and waste of time.

    Look Bourla is an epic creep but, you need to see the prior couple of minutes in order to get the context of what he meant. The longer version was posted on another thread after someone else posted this same edited clip and some of us called that person out. That was just a couple days ago, I suggest you look for it.

  191. Hartmann says:

    The fact that the response to the fake emergency was so damaging and contrary to sound medical practice shows the murderous intent. The fact that such a counterproductive and ridiculous response was instantly on the same day adopted nearly worldwide shows that it was all orchestrated somehow at the highest supra-national level.

    Yes, Ron Unz apparently wants to see this in the context of a nation-state conflict. But this doesn’t account for the coordinated global war on early treatment with HCQ etc. and the global pushing of vaccines as the only effective response, using means including fraudulent papers published in previously first-rate scientific journals, in various countries. Whether or not there is a population control angle, this suggests at least that the virus was released in order to introduce the vaccines, the vaccines were intended primarily to introduce digital vaccine passports, and the digital passports are intended to support “Surveillance Capitalism” 2.0 complete with an open-ended Chinese-style social credit system and “programmable” digital currency, and that this has been an operation run from the beginning at an international level.

    In any event, this, or something like this, is what Doctors Peter McCullough and Harvey Risch, no slouches, seem to have come to believe (see recent interviews).

    Who or what is at the apex of this globe of evil? All the king’s Nazis and all the bad Jews could not commit a crime like this, a crime so encompassing and so hideous that I am becoming persuaded that David Icke may be onto the ultimate dark reality

    Although perhaps far-fetched, it may be more plausible than the RU thesis of a small rogue element of a US administration, with merely nationalistic motives, incompetently launching a biowarfare attack meant to be limited to China and Iran.

  192. Kali says:

    Ah, , Goddo. Good you came – I was waiting for you. 😄

    Interesting theory, if I have it straight. Basically you’re suggesting that the whole ‘great reset’ is a bluff. But then you also say that they are preparing CBDC’s in advance of a full economic collapse in order to keep things (the “economy-stupid”) going, and avoid a full collapse. But it’s my understanding that the introduction/roll-out of programmable digital currencies is at the heart of their ecnomic reset. – Maybe I have misinterpreted what you wrote? Or maybe we have different understanding of what the “Great Reset of capitalism” actually is.


    On the other hand, you suggest that they are deliberately trying to wake as many up as possible in order to initiate a real awakening of our spirit. – Forgive me if I’m putting words into your mouth. This is just my own take on what you say.

    Anyway, I recall, a few years ago (2013 maybe) the Bilderberg group met in England – publically! After years and decades of denying the existance of this group, suddenly the “conspiracy theorists” were at once prooved right, and, symutaniouly, irrelevant and silly. Since then their once secret machinations have been brought into the public sphere via the WEF, et al.

    My own take on all of this is that the financial and political elite of the west, in order to gain tacit acceptance for their would-be global monopoly, must disclose their plans and schemes bit-by-bit.

    Having said that, I honestly don’t think they will prevail. – As you suggest, they may achieve totalitarian dominance in certain locations for a time, but not over the whole world, and not forever – which, as you may know, is longer than the half-life of depleted uranium, which is 4.5 billion years.

    I am interested to know what you imagine might be disclosed during “Project Disclosure”. I do hope it’s not space aliens ruling the world or anything like that, because wtf could we do with such information?!

    For my part, I’m what you might call a non-compliant off-gridder of long standing who spends a goodly amount of time suggesting others do what they can to ensure their survival as free, sentiant beings, under God and Natural Law (to name the only jurisdictions which I personally recognise). To that end we are social creatures who’s wider existential needs – absent the economy-stupid/monetary (digital currency) system, are met in cooperation with one another.

    Once freed from the grip of media manipulations and indoctrinated dependance on money, capitalism and the economy-stupid and other forms of social control (religions, politics, public “education”) we discover our innate creativity and resoursfulness, not to mention our joy and celebration of life itself. – Is this what you mean when you talk about a great awakening or “project disclosure”?

    I’m convinced that the future is not nearly as dark as currently trending headlines suggest. There is an awakening taking place amongst the great un-washed, or “We the Peasants” as I like to say. The revelation, or the disclosure, may be that we truly are free to choose our own path through life (and back to God).

    What prevents many off-grid minded and awakened preppers from greater success is in the lack of numbers at present to create an alternative system of trade and commerce.

    Absolutely right! My own life gets much easier as more and more awaken to the realities of life: We thrive through mutual support and cooperation, when autonimous households and individuals work creativity to ensure all of our individual and collective needs are met, freed from slavery and/or coersion.

    I enjoyed your comment, Goddo. And I enjoyed responding to it. ☺

    With love,

    • Replies: @Goddo
  193. @mulga mumblebrain

    IF the Danish re-analysis of the Covid vaccine data is real, the positive effects of AZ and J&J adenovirus vaccines are massive and not due to effects on Covid. So not surprisingly, immediately after their pre-print appeared in the Lancet, the FDA warned against use of J&J.

    In theory the Chinese dead virus vaccines should be best (most similar to Natural Immunity from infection which Israeli researchers found was 25-30-fold more effective than the Pfizer jabs at preventing symptomatic Covid). However, the Chinese vaccines seem of low potency. Likely at higher concentrations they were toxic. Multiple jabs (initially the Chinese were single) like Pfizer (up to 5?) might confer better immunity with the Chinese, but no such data has surfaced?

    Clotting happens in people with Covid and all the vaccines. It may be linked to overactivation of the immune system and acute phase activation. For Covid (like Kawasaki’s which closely resembles in some ways, particularly in children), rapid treatment with acute glucocorticoids should minimize clotting (and of course heparins and other anti-clotting help many), but may interfere with immune responses. The massive amounts of spike protein made after Covid vaccines seem to do much more, and some clotting with vaccines seems unaffected/ potentiated by heparins.

    Surprising how little we know after over two years of intensive study; a lot of suppression seems to be going on, unusual in science (scathing criticisms are fine, but shutting down publications of dissenting results is reprehensible.)

    • Replies: @Punch Brother Punch
  194. @the grand wazoo

    I agree with The Real World’s reply here, and I meant to write something the last time someone put this doctored video up.

    Listen, I’m the last guy to say about the ctlr-left Commies we have among us and the Globalists like this guy that no matter what they do we need to play by THE RULES. Nah. However, this video, that actually said “we’d like to reduce the population that can’t afford the vaccine down to 50%” or something like that, is a flat out lie.

    Nobody likes a liar, even one who is trying to help. The guy could very well be an evil bastard, but this video has got people like me doubting others now. That’s confusing and not helpful in the least.

    • Replies: @JohnnyGodYilmaz
  195. @michael888

    Surprising how little we know after over two years of intensive study; a lot of suppression seems to be going on, unusual in science (

    If Covid was engineered, this may not be so surprising. I don’t know, honestly. I’ve given up on trying to figure out Covid-19 at this point.

    • Replies: @michael888
  196. @The Real World

    The proper term for an obnoxious libertarian is “Libertardian.”. Truth Vigilante has heard it enough. He’ll recognize it.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  197. Goddo says:

    Hi Kali
    It would be great to build our discussion. My email is [email protected]

    My thesis is based on the ‘Hidden In Plain Sight’ metaphor, so the central banks DON’T hide the fact that they are systematically removing physical cash, but all the time mass media is screaming to the sheeple: “Look over there … isn’t it aweful … Ukraine, monkeypox, Epstein, abortions, …. !” on and on, all the while the sheep are being fleeced (skinned alive) by way of inflation, energy costs, interest rates, unemployment … the most significant transfer of wealth EVER. The gates of the pen are being closed and all who are penned will depend 100% on the captor. “Feed them pizza + free wifi !”
    Sovereignty of Self … in body, mind and spirit … YES
    Hope to here from you on email.
    kind regards
    Goddo F

    • Replies: @Kali
  198. @meamjojo

    A similar approach should be taken with trolls.

  199. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    My personal concern in all of this is that the legal pushback against the Satanic Globalists is either non-existent or proceeding too slowly. —UF the Brave

    (Comment Response Part 2)

    I’m not sure if you are aware that Reiner Fuellmich and a few others are on a Crimes Against Humanity Tour to generate interest in bringing a class action suit against some of those Satanic Globalists, the ones responsible for the Covid19 Plandemic:

    I don’t know about the lamppost suspensions that you said Martin Armstrong says won’t happen til 2032, but if Reiner Fuellmich succeeds with his project, there will be a lot of elitists going bankrupt— which humility, and the humility of watching their ill-gotten gains returned to so many victims they set at nought—they should be made to endure before any lamppost encounter.

    The CAH tour has run into some difficulty. There was a falling out with one of the lawyers formerly associated with the tour. Despite the opposition one might expect to encounter when opposing Satanic Globalists, CAH may succeed in (1) forming local communities of people motivated to take action, through the meetups arranged in each city on the tour (2) educating people about the evidence that exists to bring legal action and what that legal action would entail.

    And of course, since Globalist schemes really do look like they’re backed by Satanic entities more cruel and powerful than the merely human “wickedness in high places,” then we must trust God for what even the mightiest human effort cannot accomplish, and as I’ve heard you say before, we must “pray much.”

    I continue small day-by-day preparations: getting ground ready for potatoes (white and sweet, and maybe beans and watermelons—- these crops were grown by some enslaved people in the US, those who were given small personal plots of land where they could grow food crops for themselves that didn’t require tending beyond what they could do on their “days off.” I might try peanuts, too. I keep meaning to talk to my husband about Truth Vigilante’s recommendation to “buy silver.”

    On the possibly wooo side, I keep hearing about a prophesied “three days of darkness” for which one is advised to make preparations, obviating leaving one’s home during that time: enough food and candles (“pure white” or “pure beeswax” for some reason, maybe to avoid the toxic fake scents?) Well, woo or not, having at least 72 hours of emergency food and water on hand is pretty standard emergency preparedness. (72 hours is 3 days. As in Jonah’s and Jesus’ three days of darkness. Interesting.)

    • Replies: @Kali
    , @Ultrafart the Brave
  200. @JWalters

    I’d like to see several such holes in the dam simultaneously – COVID, Ukraine, 9/11, JFK & RFK, Israel.

    As well as the fake moon landings. A very big destructive hole.

  201. Kali says:

    I am convinced that covid 19 was a joint venture between the U.S and China. Both the ccp and the deep state had much to gain from the outbreak. The fact they dont seem to be on the same page in regards to Russia/Ukraine doesnt mean they werent on the same page with covid.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain

    Why Mumblebrain, why??

    There’s nothing even remotely trollish in the above comment, which is a perfectly reasonable observation/ statement.

    You do know that there is a “dissagree” tag at your disposal don’t you?

    Best wishes,

    • Replies: @A B Coreopsis
  202. @Punch Brother Punch

    You wrote:

    The proper term for an obnoxious libertarian is “Libertardian”

    I can’t say I’ve ever seen [or heard] that word.

    That said, seeing as the Libertarian Party was long ago infiltrated and there are all manner of pro-Judeo-Fascist Ukrainian regime sympathisers, double/triple vaxxed and masked up Covidiots among that infiltrating subset, I may well use that.

    Better to use the term LiberFraudians to categorise them, seeing as they’re all fakes.

    That’s why I’m always careful to describe myself as a Ron Paul Libertarian – this is the purist version of Libertarianism, in the Harry Browne/Rothbardian tradition.

  203. Realist says:
    @Punch Brother Punch

    Using one’s “mind” is quite useful.

    There is no way you could know that from experience.

    You should try it sometime

    Right back at you.

    It’s invigorating, really. I know you’ve never done it before, even when you were earning your magical rainbow Unicorn STEM degree, but it really is worth the effort.

    Your inane replies become more childish each time you post.

    • Disagree: Kali
  204. @Freedomstillisntfree

    Because there is no argument to support this claim, none, only prejudice.

  205. Kali says:

    Thank you for the news from the COH tour Irene. I’ve been too busy lately to keep up with things online.

    And thank you for news of your gardening and general preparedness activities too.

    I’m trying to get as many fruit and nut trees in the ground as I can, so that as I get too old and creeky for digging, there’ll still be plenty of food available. – I have read that avacados contain every nutrient the human body needs except for vitamin C. They do require a hot and sheltered climate though, but varieties have been developed that will toloerate a little cold. Could be worth looking into. 🙂

    As for the lights going out, solar systems can be relatively cheep to put together and can be upgraded over time with higher-end componants – for those on a tighter budget.

    .Solar panel(s).
    .MPPT charge controler (PWM aren’t worth a carrot).
    .Batteries. (Our two 6v batteries, wired in parrallel, are still going well after 9 years constant use, though we will be needing to replace them before too much longer.)
    .An inverter.
    .Solar cable. (More expensive than regular cable, but better for the job.)
    .A battery moniter. – Not essential, but helpful and very cheap.

    Of course, taking this option does mean you have to think seriously about power consumption, and invest in low-wattage devices.

    Just putting it out there as food for thought generally.

    Much love, dear Irene,

    • Thanks: IreneAthena, anarchyst
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  206. @Achmed E. Newman

    Well, yes, that video of Bourla was doctored, and in fact I’m slightly embarrassed to have passed it on to someone. I hope the recipient takes the trouble to find the fraud and throw it in my face because maybe he will have taken the trouble to look at all the other links too – Yeadon, Mikovitz, Zelenko….but I doubt it. He’s already got all the info he needs from his medical board and Pfizer.

    But you know what – that manufactured video doesn’t offend me at all, because anyone who has been paying attention knows that Bourla et al. really do mean to kill all of us, not just 50%.

  207. geokat62 says:


  208. @IreneAthena

    I don’t know about the lamppost suspensions that you said Martin Armstrong says won’t happen til 2032…

    I’d personally like to see a resolution to all of this well before then – but am resigned to hoping for the best, and preparing for the worst.


    I recall one of Dr. Fuellmich’s interviewees making a very enlightened observation – as fast as we cut off and kill the Globalist tentacles, they keep growing new ones. The solution IMO is to kill the beast permanently by cutting off it’s head – but tracking that down is yet another seemingly insurmountable challenge.

    The patronage of the WEF runs very deep, much deeper than anyone might believe. I recently noticed to my surprise that the former Kiwi Prime Minister, Helen Clark, now has a senior speaking position promoting the New World Order agenda at Davos. Numerous – numerous – political heavyweights from all over the planet are working behind the scenes to push the Great Reset forward with a breathtaking level of audacity and arrogance. The more they are exposed, the more they double down.

    I wish Dr. Fuellmich the best of success in organising accountability for the Globalist monsters. It’s a daunting task, to say the least, and you know what they say about a cornered animal – we’re dealing not with an animal, but with a demonically motivated cabal of exceedingly wealthy psycopaths devoid of any shred of morality or conscience and seemingly driven with a diabolical determination to see their plans through.

    I might try peanuts, too.

    If you want a vegetable that keeps on keeping on sans any effort at all, try wild fennel – I have a yard full of the stuff and it’s literally like Day of the Triffids. No matter what I do, no matter how much I chop it and beat it and dig it, it just won’t die. And it puts tap roots down about 12 feet through what looks to me like solid rock.

    I’m told it goes well with fish.

    I keep hearing about a prophesied “three days of darkness”…

    If that’s coming any time soon, be afraid – be very afraid. It’s not just the darkness that’s going to be the problem, it’s what’s in the darkness. If you have candles set aside for that event, you might consider getting them blessed by a priest.

    There’s also the foretold moment coming when “time stands still” – just a split second in real time, but what will seem like an etermity for everyone alive at that moment, when everyone will be shown themselves as God sees them. Something along the lines of God giving us a final warning, a chance to set ourselves right before it’s too late. Catholic mystics who saw what’s coming either gave thanks that they would not be alive at that time – or prayed to God that they would not be.

    The way things seem to be unfolding, perhaps more of us should be giving attention to these things.

    Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

    • Agree: IreneAthena
    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  209. @Emil Nikola Richard

    What do you think the compliance % with the vaccine bio-weapon is?

    … word on the street is that the real figure is maybe 50% – 65% of what officialdom claims, at least in the USA and probably also Australia.


    Attitudes @ the universe-masters may have undergone the largest reset of any.

    A lot of people in prominent positions, including Stew Peters and Dr. Fuellmich, are expressing a similar opinion.

    That would be a good thing, no doubt about it.

    But we’re still dealing with a bunch of extremely wealthy completely amoral Satanic psycopaths, and they’re unlikely to go down without taking as many of us with them as they can.

    If I was Fauci I would be weighing the possibility of Nuremberg II trials executions.

    What genuinely puzzles me is why someone hasn’t exterminated vermin like Fauci years ago. How is it that this piece of walking excrement is still alive?

    IMO that would be the simplest path to a solution in dealing with all of the Globalists.

    Maybe that’s just being too idealistic – unexpected plot twists with a happy ending only happen in the movies.

  210. @IreneAthena

    But I might be completely wrong about the man’s motivations.

    IMO your suspicions are supported by Mr. Unz’ lenience in dealing with contrary views.

    He could choose to be far more adversarial in countering criticism, but instead adopts a mainly passive disposition – hence perhaps does not fundamentally disagree with those alternate views, or at least might have a genuine interest in teasing out the logic.

    Or he could just be a little bit eccentric – which I think is adorable.

  211. @Punch Brother Punch

    Data (particularly the back-to-back “human” arginine codons in the anomalous furin cleavage site– often added to make viruses easier to grow in cultured cells) suggest, more likely than not, that SARS-CoV2 came from a lab. The Iran epidemic supports Unz’s bioweapon hypothesis, and was extremely quick for anything from the US Government. The Chinese were funded by Fauci and doing a lot of collaboration, a lot of gain-of-function research, so if they know that the US gave the world Covid, they will respond in time. They are a patient people. There has been a resurgence, with no real evidence, in the old Official Narrative that Covid from the wet markets (if so, China would have been quick to determine that, and exterminate the animals involved, as for many other wet market-driven outbreaks). SARS-CoV2 seemed optimized for human infection and transmission, unlikely if from other animals. It could have been a benign common cold coronavirus before the furin cleavage site was inserted. We’ll likely never know for certain, and no one will ever be held accountable for creation of the virus, nor for the horrendous response to Covid in the US.

    • Thanks: Punch Brother Punch
  212. ARepli says:

    Unz: Americans are dying in droves from a disease my I’m training my readers to think is a Zionist conspiracy and I’m really gaining popularity

    “The new phonebooks are here!”

    —And that’s the way it was May 30, 2022

  213. IreneAthena says: • Website

    Dear Kali, Thanks for the “beyond-beeswax-candles” lighting/power tips and as always, general inspiration!


    I had been glued to my cell phone (watching the usual horrific news about what the US Empire show-runners are up to, as well as a few funny videos: Yes, Minster) as it rained for 3 solid days for the USA’s Memorial Day long weekend. I had been wanting to plant then (a bit of family lore is “y’all don’t want those plants killed by a late frost– don’t put anything in the ground Memorial Day” ; a bit like wisdom from the European side “Cast not a clout til May be out.”)

    So last night after work , it was AMAZING to be outside in the yard, digging, weeding, seeing all the edible stuff that just volunteered itself — hey, that’s not a weed: it’s cress!

    Many Blessings, Peace, Love and Joyful, Joyful Gardening Adventures, online pal! IreneAthena

    • Thanks: Kali
  214. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    I love fennel, and it’s not always available in stores…—

    …it would be great to have a backyard supply. I’ll keep my eye out for wild varieties, thanks. My husband took a food test that revealed he should never have garlic and very rarely should he have onions. What a sad, sad existence lies ahead, I thought, until, while looking for possible substitutions, I discovered fennel, which is quite flavorful and an interesting texture/taste substitute for onion/garlic in many recipes — and it tastes like licorice raw!

    A bunch of raw fennel stalks would’ve been much more healthful than the entire package of Red Vines I consumed at a Moody Blues concert I attended recently, the first concert in such a long time. (I saw a liberal acquaintance there– cloth-masked. sigh) I thought of all my “Queen’s English” online friends as I listened!

    “Why do we never get an answer
    When we’re knocking at the door
    With a thousand million questions
    About hate and death and war?
    ‘Cos when we stop and look around us,
    There is nothing that we need,
    In a world of persecution
    That is burning in its greed.”

    Keep “looking for a miracle,”
    But yes, prepare for the worst.

  215. Roy Unz is our protector. And as such I venerate what he says. Even when I do not agree with it 🙂

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Iris
  216. @American Bulwark

    Excessive self-identification with a real or imagined “heimat” can quickly degenerate into ad hominem attacks by xenophobic bulwarks.

  217. @Erikassimo2

    Protecting whom? Americans? Slanderers? From What? I had never thought of it but I do remember the occasional Commenter suggesting almost the opposite, viz that the Unz Review collected up details of people and what they wrote so someone could use it.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  218. Not you says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Their are only two types of libertarians: Rothbardians and non-Rothbardians. One either loves the state or one either hates it. Rothbardians hate the state. Every other classification for a libertarian is just sand in the eyes and for muddying the water. Harry Browne and Dr. Paul would be in the Rothbardian camp. It really is that simple.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  219. @Dream

    “You know all that from your American town of 10,000, I assume.”

    Yup. Jealous? Enjoy your overpopulated overpriced overtaxed shithole! I’m not personally aware of any pandemic occuring over the past two years and that’s the way we backwoods rednecks like it.

    • Replies: @Dream
  220. Media has an attention span of about eight seconds, and a government conspiracy involing myriad agencies following Pentagon & Darpa/CIA talking points of plausible deniability [flase flag Wuhan China] would be too cumbersome for major producers to deal with via investigative reporting.

    Only a private consortium of journalists dedicated to investigate & report on the crimes of state would actually work. The Panama Papers is a good example of what I mean.

    If we built a team of researchers dedicated to uncovering the facts we’d accomplish the Nobel Prize piece of investigative reporting that you are fathoming for the Sars-2-nCoV-19 novel Coronavirus which is indeed American manufactured GOF utilized for Offensive Forth Generation Biowarfare.

    A team of researchers would draw the attention required by media. The Panama Papers did get air time. The world knows about the Panama Papers now. And more research is following that initial research.

    Planning makes perfcct.


  221. @Not you

    The ‘State’ is an euphemism for the ‘libertarians’ real enemy-other people.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  222. @Wizard of Oz

    Fizzy Wizz-they vacuum up EVERYTHING, not just the rabid ruminations hereabouts. You should see your file. You were quite the lad, eh.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  223. @mulga mumblebrain

    Yeah. Big Blue gave up after trying its billion calculations a second program on me but I don’t count myself safe against the ten trillion a second AI. In fact I’m told that I was heard to make a very insulting phone call to Narendra Modi after a few things I had said over the years could be hooked in to say it wasn’t fake.

  224. geokat62 says:
    @Not you

    Submitted without comment:

    CEO of large Spanish pharma company bought a fake vaccine card

    Why would someone pay a huge fee and risk a long prison sentence to avoid taking a perfectly safe vaccine that will keep him from dying from COVID? Answer: to avoid dying from the vaccine.

    • Thanks: Not you
  225. @mulga mumblebrain

    I prefer ‘libertilian’.

    FWIW, Mike Adams likes “Libtards” – much more concise.

  226. anon[166] • Disclaimer says:

    So the CIA Mengeles are still committed to their poor man’s WMD and rolling out more of it.

    The WHO treaty amendments are a US attempt to end-run BWTC verification initiatives with germ warfare investigations by UN agencies they can control (WHO or the Secretariat.) That’ll come in handy when word gets around that monkeypox is another of their banned biological weapons.

    Malone lays out the smoking guns of germ warfare in the link above.

  227. Iris says:

    Mr Unz has achieved something very unique and most important, that nobody else, to my knowledge, was able to accomplish.

    Between his own articles, those of the authors he hosts, and the comments by his readership, he has managed to provide the only unaltered, unfaked and intellectually credible representation of what is really happening in and to America.

    Thanks to the freedom of speech, clashing views and contradictions, (and despite one has to painfully sift through organised trolling), the Unz Review is a one-of-a-kind, invaluable, without any equivalent, source of information about the most important country in the world, in all aspects of its public life.

    I think that this is an absolutely amazing and superlative life achievement.

  228. vladimir says:

    The UNITED STATES is running 4 BIOLOGICAL laboratories in NIGERIA from where the MONKEYPOX virus was spread. This news is circulated around the Net.

    Months after accusing the United States of having biological laboratories in Ukraine, Russia has now claimed that there are at least 4 US-operated biological laboratories in Nigeria from where the monkeypox virus was spread. As per the reports of Sputnik, Igor Kirillov, the chief of the Russian Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Troops, issued a new briefing on Friday, stating that the United States has 4 biological laboratories in Nigeria. Kirillov noted that the WHO concluded that the current monkeypox virus originated in Nigeria, claiming that this is another state where the United States has placed its biological laboratories. He went on to state that according to the evidence available, the African nation holds at least four US-controlled Biolabs. Kirillov also cited media reports based on a 2021 Munich Security Conference-Nuclear Threat Initiative simulation modelling the spread of a bioengineered, highly lethal form of monkeypox, describing the exercise as “an odd coincidence” that requires further verification by specialists.
    ‘WHO should investigate the activities of US-funded labs in Nigeria’
    He stressed that in light of repeated US violations of biosafety requirements and evidence of careless storage of pathogenic biomaterials, the WHO should investigate the activities of US-funded labs in Nigeria, which are located in the cities of Abuja, Zaria and Lagos, and report their findings to the international community. Kirillov also expressed concerns regarding the safety of smallpox virus samples within the US.
    WHO must start investigation immediately. Is WHO going to do that or is going to cover for its master. The Who director general is Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus of Ethiopia, a puppet of the Evil empire and Bill Gates. He cannot be trusted.
    The evil empire has denied having Laboratories in Nigeria, a classic deny. They have denied having military bases as well. Israel for many years denied having a Nuclear weapon industry. These people are pathological LIARS.

  229. Brewer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Mike Robinson, Patrick Henningsen, Iain Davis and Mark Anderson with today’s UK Column News.
    In depth analysis of excess mortality reveals coincidence with vaccine roll out (not covid peaks) and in age groups not normally vulnerable to mortality by covid.

  230. aj54 says:

    deaths were also caused by felonious medical malpractice ‘failure to treat’, withholding Hcq and ivermectin; both known to be effective in China before there was a case in the US. Because there were treatments available, the EUA is a control fraud. The VAERS data reflects the CDC proscription on calling vax deaths that occured within 2 weeks of a jab, as vax related. They were called covid deaths. The death toll is far from over, the 4 replicants of HIV in the spike are quietly grinding away at the T cells of the vaxxed. They are suffering repeated infections with covid. It is only a matter of time until we start seeing many more types of opportunistic infections.

  231. aj54 says:

    the scripted response was decided before Event 201, and brought to us by WEF, WHO, CDC, NIAID, Johns Hopkins, and the Gates Foundation. Among others.

    • Replies: @Nancy
  232. @Kali

    Whether you be troll or not, the comment is certainly trollish.

    Your followup defense that “There’s nothing even remotely trollish in the above comment, which is a perfectly reasonable observation/ statement” is fallacious.

    Call it an hypothesis, postulate, assumption, or presupposition but it can only be an “observation” to a mind lost in solipsism.

  233. @animalogic

    The Deep State has not only successfully survived Covid I, now it is planning Covid II a.k.a Monkey pox. Perhaps the sheeple may never learn anything as they undergo Covid VII and Covid X, each culling a larger share than the predecessor. Nature allows even the cunning to flourish, but it abhors stupidity. So, the stupid sheeple are earmarked, sorry, vaccine marked, for extermination, sorry, extinction.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  234. @Old Brown Fool

    Pox viruses replicate in the cell cytoplasm, like retroviruses, and not in the cell nucleus like other DNA viruses. The mRNA ‘vaccines’ deliver spike protein instructions (nudged a little to lengthen spike life)to the cytoplasm, so the two will meet up, eventually, in some poor sucker. Then we MAY see a pox virus with spike protein attachments, which may or may not be entirely beneficial.
    Surely it must be plain by now-the Evil Ones have launched an all-out bio-war on the ‘useless eaters’. Does anyone know of any member of the globalist elite who has died of CoViD19 so far?

    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  235. Kali says:

    The gates of the pen are being closed and all who are penned will depend 100% on the captor. “Feed them pizza + free wifi !”
    Sovereignty of Self … in body, mind and spirit … YES

    Exactly as I see it also.
    But provided enough get out of the pen before the gate is closed then there will be somewhere for others to escape to when the time comes.

    It’s a bit of a mission of mine to encourage and inspire others to do what they can to ensure at least some level of independance from the state and the stupid-economy (the one that transfers wealth to the already astronomically wealthy, and empowers stupid, greedy, self-serving despots and psychopaths to rule over the befuddled masses).

    I’m convinced that those of us who make it out will be enough to create and develope the means by which the sentient, conscious and aware may evolve free and life-afirming, life-loving systems of cooperation and mutual suport.


    I’ll make a note of your email address Goddo, but please don’t be offended or feel rejected if I don’t use it immediately. – It seem’s, no matter how hard I try, I have been granted a perennial problem with com’s in almost every format, for several years now. – Off-grid, out-of-the-system-as-much-as-possible-living has it’s draw-backs, but the benefits more than make up for them!

    Fond regards, new friend Goddo,

  236. @mulga mumblebrain

    You write:

    The ‘State’ is an euphemism for the ‘libertarians’ real enemy-other people.

    As usual, Mulga misinterprets that which is exceedingly obvious to others.

    We know that voting is a sham in most western democracies, that our votes don’t count and outcomes are manipulated at the behest of those shadowy misfits that really rule.

    ‘The people’ have no real say in their governance.
    So, for Mulga’s benefit, ‘The State’ is those pliable and conscience-free minions of the Zio cabal (the politicians, the health bureaucrats, academia and a select few in the so-called ‘scientific academies’ that concocted the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax), that follow a script that is designed to enrich the oligarchs.
    The State is the ENEMY of the people.

    There will always be monied interests that seek to persuade politicians and bureaucrats to enact legislation and regulatory requirements that benefit them.

    ONLY by limiting the size and scope of government, by restricting their powers and most of all by DEFUNDING THEM, can we ever hope to rein in the excesses.

    Only the Libertarians are making suggestions that work towards that end.

    What you suggest Mulga will only expand Big Government and centralise power in the hands of a few, thus working to the DETRIMENT of the people.

    That you can’t see this is indicative of how much a rabid zealot you’ve become.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  237. berthe says:

    The number of deaths – excluding comorbidity – is about 12% of the declared, official figure, according to the NHS contacted by Nigel Farage.
    Professor Kees van der Pijl wrote a book (States of emergency) explaining that COVID main purpose is to enslave us. Professor Denis Rancourt concurs (Geopolitique et COVID).
    The idiosyncristic Chinese zero covid policy gives credence to this interpretation since it looks very much as though Chinese authorities were keen to know how long they could impose a senseless confinement as a way of testing the population and their control over it. In other words, how far do we have to go before the population rebel? The answer: over two months!

  238. @mulga mumblebrain

    Does anyone know of any member of the globalist elite who has died of CoViD19 so far?

    No; not even anyone of the walking stiffs that refuse to bury themselves, and turn up on the events like WEF, etc; while norm 35 year old dies of complications from vaccine…

    So the globalist elite did not vaccinate themselves?

  239. Corvinus says:
    @Ron Unz

    “So the evidence very strongly indicates that some group of people high in Western circles had advance knowledge of the Covid outbreak but doesn’t allow us to determine their identity“

    More like you interpret the evidence in a way to craft a prescribed narrative thar minimizes conflicting accounts to that narrative.

  240. anaccount says:

    Interesting that Ron questions the 6 million but accepts the 1 million. Where did all the flu deaths go?

    • Agree: Mevashir
  241. Mevashir [AKA "Song Dynasty"] says:

    The normal death rate globally is approximately 1.5 deaths per second. That comes out to about 120,000 deaths per day or close to 4 million per month and nearly 50 million per year. The US has approximately 5% of the globe’s population so we would expect about 2.5 million deaths per year in the United States which would be about 5 million over the two-year period in which covid raged. So how do we know that these 1 million deaths were due to covid? Perhaps these 1 million deaths were people who would have died anyway according to the normal mortality rates? In the past Mr Unz has expressed skepticism about these kinds of statistics but here he seems to accept them. I don’t understand why.

  242. Biowarfare lab produces a weapon that has the same effects as the common cold and seasonal flu. Money down the drain into corporate accounts.

    China used the Covid scam to shut down the raging Hong Kong Freedom Flu. They benefited immediately as HK was no longer a headline news item.

    The “vaccines” are more dangerous than the “bug”, there’s the bioweapon.

    If they can get the same results with a fake, why bother actually doing anything?

    “War of the Worlds” in the 21st Century.

  243. @animalogic

    Covid was a Us Army operation from Utah and Fort Detrick brought to Wuhan during the Military Games in October 2019. Period.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  244. Andrew Huff supports Ron Unz’s theory.

    • Replies: @Hartmann
  245. Wen says:

    Another column on this web site about the status of the globalist agenda is invalid because it does not frame things from the perspective of Jews, Jewish agenda, and Jewish power. It doesn’t even mention Jews. Secondly, it fails to distinguish between appearance and reality. I am speaking here of the use of deception to give people false broad impressions of the status of powers in the world.

    One false impression is that China is unstoppable. China is in fact in a lot of danger, and it is about to reach a critical moment. It is still not competitive with the U.S. militarily, and its economic influence is rapidly weakening. China’s GDP is unfortunately collapsing, accelerated by the actions and policies of the Jews, particularly the sudden escalation of transferring of manufacturing to Vietnam and other developing countries, and also the covid blockades.

    The notion that the U.S. is becoming impotent because of the current chaos is another deception. In fact, the chaos in the West is to a large extent controlled or at least circumscribed in its impact on the strategic situation. It of course has the advantage of weakening gentiles because it divides us by racial interests, and we have less power and wealth than Jews to deal with chaos and misfortune. Its immediate purpose is to give China the impression that the coast is clear to begin violent expansion. At that point, the Jews will come out of their invisible hiding places in the military and Defense Department and obliterate the Chinese military with superior weaponry and strategy that you don’t know about. The rainbow and minority activism in the lower ranks of the U.S. military are irrelevant militarily and should be seen as baiting propaganda. George Soros’ recent coming out against Jinping should have confirmed any suspicions that despite factional posturing and clucking, Jews ultimately act as a collective detectable mainly at the Schelling points. If you did not see that, then you are not yet able to comprehend the cause-and-effect at work in the world. Consider it a learning opportunity.

    Finally, Russia should be thought of as heavily Jewish-run and populated. Its rise agitates the leftist factions of Jews in the West and stimulates them to foment the desired chaos, but Russia’s rise otherwise does not harm them, and it is certainly in collective Jewish interests. It gives power to eastern Jews while creating a major strategic check on gentile China. The West’s ostensible “failure” to reverse fortunes in Ukraine should be seen as bait for China to begin violent expansion.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  246. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    “A Million American Deaths and 400,000 Rumble Views”

    The Virgin Mary stuck with her story, and Ron Chomsky’s sticking with his . . . must be a Joo thing.

  247. Hartmann says:

    Andrew Huff supports Ron Unz’s theory.

    If he does, it’s certainly not in this video. See esp. min. 44f and min. 1:01f., where if anything the implication is that the Chinese may be primarily responsible.

    But even if there is some place where Huff puts the blame primarily on the US, that’s a far cry from endorsing Ron Unz’s theory, the gist of which is that the epidemic is “unintended blowback” from a botched but limited biowarfare attack by US actors on China and Iran.

    Again, nowhere in the video (which is very interesting, by the way) is Ron Unz’s theory addressed. Malone does however seem to reveal some things about US biowarfare planning that are not common knowledge.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @michael888
  248. @Truth Vigilante

    In other words you believe in the ‘bellum omnium contra omnes’, the war of all against all. Think you’ll do well, do you?

  249. @Wen

    When one reads carefully between the lines it becomes apparent that Wen’s introjection into the U.R. commentariat has more than a slight whiff of disinformation. The assertion has been made that “Russia” is “heavily Jewish-run and populated”. Think about that for a couple moments. In the first instance, it would appear that Putin kicked out the troublesome Jewish oligarchs who were pulling and pushing for a total Western takeover of Russia. That left remaining a modest sized group of tamed Jews who came to realize just who it is that calls the shots.

    The CIA appears to be the primary shotcaller in the U\$\$A. However, they do not have true agency. Even as The Agency, they were established by the Bank\$ters as their “Cheka” for America. Currently, that center of lies controls more than 800 journalists worldwide. The controlled media, under people like Bezos, determines the narrative with a hyper-profound anti-Russian bias. This is core management apparatus for the Evil Empire of Lies.

    As for being heavily Jewish populated. Pilpul and Bull\$hit. Most of the Jewish incorrigibles lit off for I\$rael and the U\$\$A several decades ago. The Jewish population of Russia is currently much smaller than their ethnic brothers in both the U\$\$A and in I\$rael.

    Reviewing the Wen statement; it holds more than a slight whiff of disinformation. One wonders just which intel agency cuts his paycheck.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  250. @Wokechoke

    Iran = Apartheid Israhell’s enemy —-> Covid attack

    China buying oil from Iran = Apartheid Israhell’s enemy —-> Covid attack

    Rest of the world = Expendable non-Jews = Customers for Jewish Big Pharma Covid Vax poison

  251. @emerging majority

    Where do you get the figure of 800 from?

  252. our entire website was banned from Facebook and all our pages deranked by Google. Yet despite these crippling blows,

    Sorry, “crippling blows”? Whatever happened to the Voldemort Effect?

    I was under the impression had a long-standing tacit agreement with the FAANGs that allowed the site to write about/discuss anything it wanted in exchange for the rest of the Interwebs politely pretending does not exist.

    Was this not the case?

  253. @Wizard of Oz

    Arlington Institute. John Petersen.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  254. @emerging majority

    Tks. I hope to follow up. I’m ignorant of both..

  255. @mulga mumblebrain

    You write:

    In other words you believe in the ‘bellum omnium contra omnes’, the war of all against all.

    Well no, actually.

    What I believe is in a war of the many (ie: we the people that are not in the 1% of the 1%), against the malfeasant few that are the root of all the world’s evils.

    Of course, among those of ‘we the people’, there are more than a few who are living off the largesse provided by Big Government, who are remunerated well beyond their contribution to society.

    These government workers at Federal, State and Local level that have been, in effect, enablers of the ruling elite and been complicit in enriching them, need to be retrenched and redirected to the private sector, where they can, for once in their lives, actually add value to humanity.

    Once Big Government is dismantled, we’ll all do well.

  256. @mulga mumblebrain

    Further, in relation to who we should all be ‘at war with’, watch this masterclass from Peter Schiff to see why Big Government is the enemy of all of us (watch the 2 mins from 9:00 – 11:20):

    As Peter Schiff says, in explaining why we have runaway inflation now:

    Government is financing its [reckless] spending through inflation. (ie: with the endless printing/digitally created money out of thin air).

    All of this [inflation] is the cost of government, because government is so much bigger now than it used to be, because we haven’t been asked to pay for it with taxes*.
    (*In a bygone era when governments were more fiscally prudent, any increase in expenditure entailed an increase in taxes – and this had repercussions electorally seeing as no one likes to be burdened with crushing levels of taxation.
    This acted as a LIMITING CONSTRAINT on government spending. This was especially so when the USD was backed by gold since gold could not be conjured up from thin air).

    You don’t get government for nothing, The cost of government is going to be paid through inflation.

  257. Hartmann says:

    So it appears that the unintended blowback from a failed biowarfare attack, probably carried out by rogue elements of the Trump Administration, has now cost well over a million Americans their lives.

    Isn’t this a bit like claiming that the bombing of Pearl Harbor was “unintended blowback” from a failed oil embargo of Japan? But presumably in the latter case RU, rather than “unintended,” would prefer the word “planned.”

  258. geokat62 says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Once Big Government is dismantled, we’ll all do well.

    There’s an intermediary step that must be addressed first, TV:

    Once Zionist Occupied Government is dismantled, we’re well down the road of all doing well.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante, Iris
  259. @Truth Vigilante

    Thanks for the Peter Schiff video, T.V. I appreciate your trying to get through to people on here too.

  260. Furrbaby says:

    The undertakers must be raking in the dough with 1 million additional deaths on top of regular deaths.
    Amazing there isn’t a shortage of death related supplies and funeral home capacity.

  261. Nels says:
    @Bo Bo

    Masks don’t work, they are actually harmful. Delayed speech in young children is just one vector for harm from masks.

    Social distancing doesn’t work. It’s socially harmful isolation.

    Masks and distancing were part of the COVID mess, not part of the solution.

    Ventilation and remdesivir were death protocols.

    Ivermectin+zinc works, as do all previous techniques for reducing problems with influenza. They were all banned or denigrated.

    TPTB had this covered from all angles. Remember Bill Casey? He wins when everything you believe is wrong? Well, you believed them about masks and distancing. You aren’t cynical enough.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  262. @Truth Vigilante

    Cripes, ‘Truth’. ‘Government’ in the West is Big Business, the ruling, owning, oligarchy. ‘Government’ is THEIR servant. As John Dewey observed of the USA a few decades ago, ‘Politics is the shadow cast on society by Big Business’.
    Therefore we have NO experience of real ‘democracy’ ie Government FOR the people ie ALL the people. They do experience that in China, where c.90% of the people call their system ‘democratic’ because it operates FOR the people. That is why China has experienced the greatest leap in economic strength and human welfare in history. GOOD Government, for the people, of the people (anyone can join the Party of power and governance and rise according to their talents, NOT their loyalty to Big Business, and, consequently, by the Chinese people. The best of them, not the greedy, subservient, lackeys of the money power.

  263. @Truth Vigilante

    So you want rule by the ‘private sector’. You know what happens when you stimulate the private sector too much, don’t you. Therefore a private tyranny of money power, with the serfs scrabbling for scraps. In other words, the same situation as now, without Government, thus with private police, healthcare, fire services, prisons, judiciary, sanitation, foreign policy, ‘defense’ etc. Should go well.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  264. @Wizard of Oz

    The number is irrelevant. The control is undeniable. Why else do they ALL say exactly the same things re. Russia, China, Iran, Syria, US bio-labs, CoViD19, US overseas bases etc. etc, ad infinitum?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  265. @mulga mumblebrain

    Privatisation of certain things (prisons, foreign policy, the judiciary etc), would likely yield worse outcomes.

    At the end of the day, whether its privately run or run by government, wherever there is a MONOPOLY and there is no competition in the Free Market, the inevitable outcome is higher prices and lower quality/services provided.

    You know, I hear the claims continually about ‘we can’t trust the private sector to do this or that’ but, let’s be honest with ourselves and admit that the private sector in western countries controls the MOST IMPORTANT thing of all.
    It controls the production/distribution of food.

    And, for a comparison with a government run food supply chain, we don’t have to look far.
    We only have to look at the old Soviet Union.

    We’ve all seen the videos of the long queues of people waiting, sometimes for hours, outside the bakery to get their bread.
    Usually only one or two types of bread – no other choices. Either you like it or lump it.

    And, in the Soviet supermarkets there were empty shelves, chronic shortages of certain items, lack of variety.
    Compare that to supermarkets in the west pre-Covid which offered an abundance of goods.
    (Of course in recent years, we’re experiencing some of the Soviet problems, as we see supply chain disruptions and empty shelves as the western countries have gone ‘Full Socialist’).

    Whenever government does ANYTHING, there are always shortages, poor quality (if you’re a baker for example, that works in a government run bakery, what incentive is there to produce a better quality bread that satisfies consumer desires seeing as there’s nothing in it for you ?).

    And to the extent that government does do something right, it does it at a cost that is well in excess of the competitive private sector.

    People just think that when we’re taxed by government, that these ‘transfer payments’ come back to us in one way or another.

    WRONG !!

    As Peter Schiff likes to say when recalling a story his dad [the great Irwin Schiff] told him:

    Government ‘transfer’ payments are like having a blood transfusion from your left arm to your right arm, only half of the blood is spilled on the floor in the process.

    And that succinctly defines government.

    If government is allocated say \$10 billion for a particular programme, perhaps half or more is dissipated along the way in paying for bloated fat cat bureaucrats. Not just their bloated salaries but their overly generous pension plans, their lavish offices often situated on prime real estate in the central business districts.
    We the taxpayer pay for that. We’d be lucky to see 40 or 50 cents in the dollar actually go towards the intended recipient, be that a government initiative to combat poverty, infrastructure, health outcomes or whatever.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  266. geokat62 says:

    I listen to the private/public debate and can’t help thinking that Jewish Supremacist Organizations just love it when we keep being distracted by squirrels, as they slowly destroy every institution that underpins our once-great societies and flood them with foreigners that are radically transforming the demographics of our homelands.

    We must constantly shine the spotlight on one thing and one thing only… the JSOs that are responsible for engineering our demise.

  267. @geokat62

    You wrote:

    We must constantly shine the spotlight on one thing and one thing only… the JSOs (Jewish Supremacist Organisations] that are responsible for engineering our demise.

    No disagreements from me there.

    But bear in mind that it’s not an either/or question.

    It’s important to understand HOW Jewish power is ENABLED, and the evidence suggests it is overwhelmingly enabled through BIG GOVERNMENT.

    That’s why government, as much as is practically feasible, needs to be defunded with entire government departments abolished.

    And nowhere is this more important than in CONFISCATION of the Federal Reserve (and the other western central banks) from Zio ownership.

    Dr Ron Paul knew this and he, MORE THAN ANY OTHER PUBLIC FIGURE ON THE PLANET, devoted five decades in pursuit of:

    1) Shrinking government to minuscule levels and …
    2) Ending the Fed.

    These two initiatives, MORE THAN ANY OTHER (short of actually apprehending and incarcerating all of these Zio miscreants), will do more than any other measure towards bringing ZOG down.

  268. @geokat62

    It is an odd project. True humanitarians, which I fear many Judaics and most Rightists are NOT and have no wish to be, always prioritising their tribe or class over all others, would seek to end poverty and want in the poor world. Then people could stay home, which most people prefer to fleeing for other, colder, less hospitable climes.
    Rapidly flooding countries with people from distant lands, with different mores, religion, habits and customs, is bound to fail. It takes only a few extremists on any side to stir up generalised hatred, particularly with a poisonous hate and fear-mongering cancer like the Western MSM ever ready to stir discord. But, and here’s the answer, race fear and hatred fosters and foments then garners votes for Rightwing parties. It has been a staple of years of dominance by the Right in Austfaila, aided and abetted all the way by the Murdoch cancer.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  269. @Truth Vigilante

    You’re forgeting your Marx. Under laissez faire, ie ‘Free Market’ neo-liberal capitalism, all industries tend towards oligopoly or monopoly. Or, if you prefer Adam Smith, ‘ People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment or diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or some contrivance to raise prices’.
    I do love how you show us, little by little, just what your character, for want of a more succinct psychological descriptor, amounts to. In Vigilanteland, people only work for greedy gain. The idea of doing a job for simple satisfaction, or to serve others, or improve ones skills, is anathema to you. And the usual bullshit (you do love the stuff, don’t you?)that private enterprise is ALWAYS more efficient, a Big Lie beloved of all greedy, self-serving, Rightists.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Truth Vigilante
  270. @Truth Vigilante

    It’s important to understand HOW Jewish power is ENABLED, and the evidence suggests it is overwhelmingly enabled through BIG GOVERNMENT.

    Then why are so many libertarians Jews, including your hero Murray Rothbard?

    Not to be a dick by pointing to an outlier, extremely-northern place, but Iceland is a fairly Big-Gov. place (despite recent proclamations that they’re moving away from the Nordic model) and its Jewish population is miniscule. (Maybe why Bobby Fischer lived there).

  271. geokat62 says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Dr Ron Paul knew this and he, MORE THAN ANY OTHER PUBLIC FIGURE ON THE PLANET, devoted five decades in pursuit of:

    I was a big booster of Dr. Paul but soon realized the gatekeepers wouldn’t permit him to get even within a whiff of the presidency. They’ve rigged the game such that no one but their handpicked candidate gets (s)elected.

    That’s why the emphasis must be placed on resolving the JP… and nothing but.

  272. geokat62 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    But, and here’s the answer, race fear and hatred fosters and foments then garners votes for Rightwing parties.

    A healthy level of ethnocentrism is perfectly NATURAL. As an ethno-nationalist, I advocate that all peoples of the world have their own sovereign homeland, without a treacherous minority trying to subvert it.

    There would be no need for rightwing parties to foment fear and hatred, if the demographic makeup of our homelands were left unchanged.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  273. geokat62 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    … a Big Lie beloved of all greedy, self-serving, Rightists.

    Does this imply that Leftists are altruistic and selfless? The Left/Right paradigm has been manufactured by our eternal enemy to sow division in our homelands. We need to transcend this artificial fault line and focus on those things that will heal our divided people.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  274. @mulga mumblebrain

    You wrote:

    And the usual bullshit …. that private enterprise is ALWAYS more efficient, a Big Lie beloved of all greedy, self-serving

    The private sector, as long as it hasn’t been allowed to monopolise a particular sector or industry (and said monopoly ONLY occurs if enabled by government), is ALWAYS more efficient than government.
    There are NO exceptions.

    And that’s due to competition.
    If one particular player is on top at any given time and raking in outsize profits, it’s not long before someone else comes along who’s hungrier, is more innovative, efficient or is just prepared to provide their product or service with a smaller profit margin so that they can take market share away from the dominant producer/service provider.

    In the private sector, if you don’t satisfy consumer needs your customers go elsewhere.
    Private sector businesses don’t have a bottomless pit of capital to draw upon if they’re not running their business well, and soon go bankrupt.

    In government, if a particular initiative is not completed on time and on budget, instead of being fired for mismanagement said head of department pleads that his budget was insufficient and that he was understaffed.
    So they’re allocated even more money and they hire even more unproductive and parasitic staff.
    No matter how much money government squanders, it has a virtually bottomless reservoir from which to draw upon. ie: the taxpayer.
    In government there is NO incentive to make sure that:

    A) Funds are spent efficiently and that the taxpayer gets value for money
    B) That any particular department is not overstaffed and that those employed are working at optimum capacity.

    Because, in the final analysis, government has a monopoly in their sector. There are no other players competing against them with which to make a comparison and use as a benchmark.

    Bottom Line: In the private sector, when consumer needs are not satisfied, you’re soon history.

    In the public sector, INCOMPETENCE IS REWARDED WITH AN EXPANDED BUDGET and thus government grows like a cancer.

    That you don’t know these things Mulga, is indicative of how much of a Maoist, Marxist or whatever rabid shade of extreme leftist you are.

  275. cranc says:

    “…and at that point we didn’t really understand the fatality rate. We didn’t understand that it was a fairly low fatality rate, and that its a disease mainly of the elderly, kind of like flu, although a bit different to flu..”

    -Bill Gates in recent interview.

    Ron Unz has simply, for whatever reason, got this wrong from the very start. Those who examined the data from the very beginning of the pandemic (Nobel scientists among them) got it right. Why wouldn’t they ? Unfortunately, Ron Unz has joined the chorus of censorship and demonisation of those who called it right, including many on these pages. The slander term ‘flu-hoaxer’ is, incredibly, still in use by him in this thread, as some attempt to divert away from this primary and essential fact about the pandemic : it was not a serious disease that warranted any of the emergency medical and political authoritarianism that swept through the world. There must have been an ulterior motive for the latter.
    Anyone who has read beyond the simplistic theory proposed by Unz, will be clear what that motive is.
    I think Ron Unz owes many many readers and censored critics an apology in order to salvage his repuation.

  276. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Harry Vox:


    Here is the Commissioner of of the NYPD contact information – Please politely urge them to watch the video[, PFIZER PAYS NYPD TO “BLUEWASH” ITS VAXX CRIMES]

    Video Link

    and reconsider their participation in this Pfizer publicity stunt.

  277. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Harry Vox:


    My Open Letter to NYPD Commissioner Sewell :

    Dear Commissioner Sewell

    There is enough public information readily available for any thinking person to see clearly the crimes of Pfizer, yet somehow the political class, the intelligence agencies and law enforcement seems to have a conspicuous blind spot regarding Pfizer and Bourla and is willing to engage in prearranged PR stunts such as award ceremonies and tonight’s “gala” to heap praise and adoration on the world’s biggest criminal Albert Bourla.

    What compounds the issue is that the criminality is there to see at first glance.

    I am a veteran Investigative Journalist with substantial credentials of over 35 years of breaking stories and taking investigations where few have the courage to venture into.

    I have unreleased information regarding massive crimes committed by Pfizer and its CEO Albert Bourla.

    Tonight (Thursday June 9 2022) there is a “Gala” where the invitation lists Commissioner Sewell and Deputy Commissioner Miller among others, who are chairing and hosting this PR stunt, paid for by Pfizer for the purpose of deceiving the public with photo opportunities, for press releases of the criminal CEO of Pfizer posing with the Commissioner and other employees of The City of New York.

    This is unacceptable to any person slightly cognizant of the reports emerging from the FOIA requests from Pfizer that Pfizer and their partners, the FDA attempted to seal for 75 years!

    There is already sufficient evidence in the public record to warrant an investigation of Mr. Bourla – NOT a celebration of this major criminal figure.

    I have contacted the Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence and Counterterrorism, John Miller’s office and left contact information to share with the Commissioner Sewell.

    I urge all employees of the NYPD to NOT engage in any celebratory function with Pfizer or Mr. Bourla as these ongoing efforts by Pfizer to put on similar theatrical performances such as the “Gala” tonight are merely desperate attempts to distract attention away from what has already appeared in the public record pointing to clear and undeniable crimes against humanity perpetrated by Pfizer Inc and Mr. Bourla in particular.

    There is no amount of money or fancy Gala events that can cover up what amounts to the most dire crimes against humanity in the history of humanity and any person posing with or celebrating Mr. Bourla or Pfizer will very definitely, without question, be asked to account for their negligence (at best) for not doing due diligence, fulfilling their role as protectors of the people, and at worse outright fraud for not investigating what already forms a prima facie case against Pfizer and Mr. Bourla.

    I look forward to hearing from you today before this “celebration” of this global criminal enterprise Pfizer and its Con-Artist Executive Officer – Albert Bourla.

    Harry Vox

  278. guibus says:

    the main reason for the PCR tests to artificially inflate the false-positive results of covid before the massive injections is to mask the real deaths of these same injections that have been possibly done thanks to these same false tests, and therefore divert artificially the responsibility from the injections and their manufacturers to the new labelled seasonal flu branded as covid.

  279. geokat62 says:

    Report: 82% of Pregnant Women Who Got Jab Miscarried

    Can anyone confirm if this story made it into the pages of Ron’s daily newspapers… NYT, WaPo, or WSJ?

  280. Ron Unz says:

    For those interested, I’m scheduled to do a Live Streaming interview with Ed Dutton at The Jolly Heretic a little later this morning, including listener questions:

  281. @Truth Vigilante

    The belief that there isn’t any extortion, coercion from the corpses anyways is a leap into fairytaleland! Never heard of the “brown envelope”?

    No one NEEDS to be competitive, unless the violence perpetrated by the “authorities is neutralized! Once that happens, people can compete FAIRLY, if they want to. Here is my suggestion, Mister Libretardarian: when someone threatens violence with you, do you immediately capitulate? Or do you respond with YOUR violence back at them.

    For example, I have former customers that went batshit self-annihilating over CoVid1984, to the point of resorting to drive by disparagement and adhominems, facecrack comments, grapevine slander even, even to the point of threatening property damage. What do I do? For disparagement, since I have the hypocrite in my face, I call them out on their hypocrisy and narcissism (they are afraid to die, so that is paramount) and their propensity to barbarism and bigotry(non-mask, non-vex get to die). I even point out that they have forgotten what it means to uphold the democracy they had so religiously upheld, even when they government exercises tyranny (truckers). I have had two individuals threaten violence to my face, in public, no less! What do I do? I shout at them “let’s dance!” In public they never do, and then when I notify the police what had happened, they will have a nice chat with them. Every time, luckily only twice!

    What do you do?
    Further ignorant straw man arguments and scapegoating… proving that you really are part of the Borg of repression.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  282. @Ron Unz

    I got to watch a few minutes and then it went “private.”

  283. My God, if ever confirmation was needed that you can make a fortune and remain an absolute idiot, this is it. Terrifying that the money gives you a voice that you absolutely don’t deserve. Bad luck to you because what you are doing is bad for mankind.

  284. geokat62 says:

    Ron, should Bill Gates of Hell start posting on your esteemed webzine, make sure you give him the Unz treatment by duly disparaging him by calling him a flu hoaxer/anti-vaxxer.

    Breaking news…

    Bill Gates says COVID is ‘kind of like the flu,’ and that the vaccines are ‘imperfect’

    During an interview to promote his new book, Bill Gates said that COVID is just like the flu, hurts the elderly more, and that the vaccines are imperfect.

    Gates explained, “We didn’t understand that it’s a fairly low fatality rate & that it’s a disease mainly in the elderly, kind of like flu is, although a bit different than that.”
    Regarding the vaccines, Gates said, “once Omicron comes along, the vaccine is not reducing transmission, hardly at all, particularly about three or four months after you take the vaccine.”

    Gates words are going viral online because the nation’s top lockdown opponents, were saying these same things since the pandemic began.

    Many Americans and social media users were even kicked off the platforms for saying these exact things.

  285. @Truth Vigilante

    You mean ‘efficient’ as in maximising profits, conning consumers with lying advertising, driving out the competition with size (eg Amazon)then gouging the customers, or by other shennanigans, like off-shoring, union-busting, driving down wages, bribery and coercion etc, then gouging the patsies. ‘Competition’ is generally the familiar ‘race to the bottom’ that has made the West what it is today-a sewer of unpayable debt, record inequality, elite arrogance, crumbling infrastructure and institutions and unbounded belligerence-but rats do love sewers, their preferred habitat. The ideal efficient private enterprise is the Mafia, or a cocaine cartel. Most of the time, of course, small business are suckers, greedy wannabe who get screwed by the bigger boys than turn to fascism and delirium, like you.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  286. @geokat62

    It’s just a shorthand. Real ‘Leftists’ must be moral, compassionate, kindhearted and generous. If not, then they are not true to centuries of human effort to create a just, humane and enduring human civilization. In the phony world of Yankee nomenclature, ‘Leftists’ are liberal fascists and totalitarians, immoral, amoral, bullying, greedy, hysterical and highly partisan, the mirror image of their ‘conservative’ rivals.

  287. @geokat62

    Human populations and individuals are too far mixed for that. We need one human government to end war and exploitation and create an ecological civilization that will nurture the planet rather than destroy it out of greed. People must be able to live and visit where they choose, and most will, I imagine, prefer home. Ethnocentrism will just get us destroyed. I vote for humancentrism (Homocentrism might be misunderstood).

    • Replies: @geokat62
  288. @bike-anarkist

    I don’t know what your unintelligible analogy about customers of yours that are Covidiots has to do with the Private sector Vs government debate.
    It certainly does not disprove the irrefutable fact that, the private sector (as long as said player is competing in an unfettered Free Market and does not have a monopoly), will ALWAYS be more efficient than its government counterpart and thus squander less of society’s wealth.

    As for being a ‘Borg of repression’, I don’t know what a ‘Borg’ is or whether it’s a truncated ‘CyBorg’. All I can tell you is that I’m a Ron Paul Libertarian.

    And if you’re against the Libertarian Ron Paul and all that he represents (and all decent people from either side of the political spectrum acknowledge that he’s been a force for good), then it is clear that you’re the retarded one who’s gone over to the dark side.

    Have a good look at yourself before you cast aspersions at others.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  289. geokat62 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    We need one human government to end war…

    This is exactly the rationale given by Jewish Supremacists to justify their long held dream to rule over the goyim , er I mean the rest of humanity.

    That’s why the ADL coined the slogan “Diversity Is A Strength” in the early 90s. They also are the force behind flinging open the floodgates of our homelands to mass immigration and they’re behind the promotion of mass miscegenation.

    They’ve gifted us this Trojan Horse of “humanity” and left it at the gates of our city and you are urging us to open the gates and accept this so-called gift?

    If these people truly believed in “humanity,” they would lead by example and open the floodgates to their homeland and promote mass miscegenation for their people. But they don’t. They push it on us goyim, er I mean the rest of humanity, instead.

    After witnessing the vagaries of history, my advise is if someone is promising you a utopian future… run away in the opposite direction as fast as you can.

    Never forget… Tikkun olam is their Trojan Horse.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @geokat62
  290. @mulga mumblebrain

    You wrote:

    ‘Competition’ is generally the familiar ‘race to the bottom’ that has made the West what it is today-a sewer of unpayable debt, record inequality, elite arrogance, crumbling infrastructure and institutions and unbounded belligerence

    That statement encapsulates who you are.

    You’re against competition. If there is no competition, by definition there is only ONE owner of the means of production – the almighty authoritarian Socialist state.

    There will be only one type of car offered – like the East German Trabant manufactured from 1957-1990 (with hardly any changes/tech updates during that time – why innovate when you have a captive market ?):

    There will only be one type of bread offered at the bakeries and you’ll have to wait 2 – 4 hours in a long queue to get one – after all, it’s not as though the bakery is going to lose market share to a competitor (seeing as there are NO competitors in Mulga’s Utopian society).

    There will only be one type of toothpaste offered – which doubles up as an industrial solvent and paint stripper.

    There will only be one type of clothing offered, for all seasons and all genders – as found in Communist China during the 1960’s.

    Ohhhh poor Mulga, how he must have sobbed when the Iron Curtain fell and the Soviet Union dissolved.
    His utopian ideal was gone – no doubt the handiwork of those wicked capitalists that conspired to destabilise it.

  291. BlackFlag says:
    @Ron Unz

    The link is dead. Some of these Youtubers remove videos after the livestream to avoid getting their channel banned. Here is a live link:’s-Been-Going-Round-Of-Late:0

    Your theory postulates that only a small number, maybe 4 or 5 people, were involved in the alleged bio-attack while also holding that there was a large media cover-up (e.g. nobody reporting on Iran’s claims). If there was a large cover-up, wouldn’t a lot of people have to know, at least by now? How can you reconcile this?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  292. Ron Unz says:

    The link is dead. Some of these Youtubers remove videos after the livestream to avoid getting their channel banned. Here is a live link:

    Yes, I’ll be loading it on Rumble as well, since that’s been the main platform for my other video interviews.

    Your theory postulates that only a small number, maybe 4 or 5 people, were involved in the alleged bio-attack while also holding that there was a large media cover-up (e.g. nobody reporting on Iran’s claims). If there was a large cover-up, wouldn’t a lot of people have to know, at least by now? How can you reconcile this?

    Not really. I doubt that any of the MSM people ignoring the Iranian accusations were aware of the plot. They were just told that the Iranians were making totally crazy claims that should be ignored. Don’t forget that at that point the entire MSM had been persuaded that Covid was a natural virus that had randomly crossed from an animal species and therefore couldn’t possibly be an American bioweapon. I discussed all of this at length in one of my articles:

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Wizard of Oz
  293. Ron Unz says:
    @Ron Unz

    Here’s the Rumble version of the interview:

    Video Link

  294. @cranc

    Agreed with the exception of that Ron Unz apology, Cranc. It’s like this: Ron Unz runs and pays for this highly-functional free speech zone. I appreciate it very much. If there were only the Communist anti-all-things-American Ted Ralls, Godfrey Robertses, commenters like MangledBrain, etc. on here I wouldn’t bother, but Mr. Unz allows plenty of Libertarians and true Conservatives, your Ron Pauls, Michelle Malkins, Pat Buchanans, and then your race (very important issue) realists like your Mr. Derbyshires, Paul Kerseys, and Steve Sailers to publish here, growing toward more of the latter and less of the former, it seems to me.

    Ron Unz has his prerogative to write any kind of weird-ass unimportant-in-the-scheme-of-things theories he so desires on his own site. Yeah, so what that his theory on the Kung Flu origins doesn’t mean Jack Squat in comparison to the real story of these times, the big increase in Totalitarianism pushed using the excuse of this PanicFest? Yes, he’s missing the big story entirely, but that doesn’t mean he stops other writers and commenters who do see this story from writing.

    Thank you, Truth Vigilante, for putting up with and trying to teach something to the idiots here who don’t understand a thing about free market economics. I don’t think the ones you are arguing with right here will ever get it, though, their being thick as bricks, but your comments probably enlighten other readers who don’t comment. Nice work!

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Nancy
  295. @mulga mumblebrain

    “ALL” of whom? Or do you just mean “lots” who can be recognised simply by the fact that they all seem to write stuff you disagree with with and attribute to some nefarious sort?. Congratulations on being able to track hundreds of journalists unless you are a team.

  296. @Ron Unz

    Have you ever calculated or seriously considered the math/stat’s of the alternative hypothesis for the Iran outbreak, viz. that one or two infected imams/theocratic returning from Qom proved to be a superspreader like the Christian woman in South Korea? Have you even looked at just how physical the Iranisn ruling class are in their social or formal interactions and what hygiene they practise?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  297. @cranc

    Ron’s misunderstandings are no worse than yours. I refer to the fact that, as anyone familiar with the way political officers feel compelled to behave should immediately have recognised, the important political decisions would be made to avoid being blamed for inadequate PPE supplies, overtaxed ICUs , lack of ventilators etc. Politicians take care above all of their survival.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  298. My review of Edward Dutton’s interview of Mr. Ron Unz at

    Video Link

    Within the limits of my personal General Intelligence, Mr. Unz’s documentation of the circumstantial evidence on the matter of the origins of the virus seems sufficient to me to accept a high probability that this virus originated in the way as hypothesized by him. However, there is one issue that I find to strongly serve as counter-evidence to Mr. Unz’s hypothesis, and this is the fact that neither Russia or China has publicly acknowledged that the virus was an Ashkenazi bio-weapon attack on China; both nations publicly claim that it was a natural occurrence. In fact, Russia has passed a law making it a crime for anyone to publicly state that this was anything but a natural pandemic.

    Now, I can suggest one possible hypothesis regarding Russia’s and China’s public dismissal of Mr. Unz’s hypothesis, and this is that both nations actually have agreed with Mr. Unz, but wanted the Ashkenazim to let their guard down engendered by a belief that neither China or Russia was aware of their intentional attack. With their guard down, Russia and China could covertly prepare a counter attack that the Ashkenazim would thus not be prepared for. Perhaps Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was one of these unanticipated attacks, and from what I have read from various sources, the Ashkenazim was completely unprepared for the attack and for the economic ramifications that have ensued. As Mr. Unz has explained, Ukraine was a place where substantial bio-weapons research was being conducted by the Ashkenazim, and it may be the case that research from these Ukrainian facilities was used in the preparation of the bio-weapons attack on China. Thus, Russia may have seen an invasion of Ukraine as one legitimate counter-attack for them to take. If my hypothesis is correct, then one may wonder what other actions is Russia planning to take? And, what counter-attacks will China carry out? A surprise invasion of Taiwan? Their own bio-weapon attack?

    On the other hand, it could be the case that China’s government agrees with Mr. Unz, but Emperor Jinping does not want the public to know about it because he feels the public could revolt against him for not protecting China from the bio-weapon attack. Plus, I wrote the following regarding China on another forum:


    “With Russia defeated, the question arises as to whether China possesses the collective genetics to defeat the Ashkenazim. I hypothesize that they don’t. Taiwan broke away from China 72 years ago, and since then, China has constantly claimed that they will recapture the island, but they have yet to make a military attempt. If China does not have the genetics to go to war against the very small and militarily weak nation of Taiwan, then surely they don’t have the genetics to defend themselves from the extremely powerful international Ashkenazi military. On top of that, China is dying from the inside, since they have a dysgenic birthrate of one offspring per female. Feminism has become so extreme in China that the females neither marry or reproduce; Emperor Jinping, due to being genetically defective, has fully embraced extremist Ashkenazi feminism and has been encouraging all females to give up traditional female family roles and to instead embrace full masculinity by getting full time careers. Evolution has, with respect to Homo Sapiens specifically, created two sexes where each sex must carry out their specific sex roles for the species/races to survive. Thus, for China to survive, females must take on the traditional role of marriage-seeking/nurturer/child-bearer/house-wife, and the males must take on the role of marriage-seeking/resource acquisition/family-nation protector. The Ashkenazim don’t have this problem, since they have the Haredi/Hasidic population following traditional family life and mass-producing millions of eugenically advanced offspring that will conquer the world. ”

    Regarding the interviewer, I noticed Dutton attempting to pretentiously sound intelligent by intermittently interrupting Mr. Unz with poetry. It seemed to me that Mr. Unz, who is an actual scientist, disregarded Dutton’s poetry and regularly tried to bring the conversation back to one based on data. Mr. Unz describes his background on his website as the following: “I’m a theoretical physicist by training, with undergraduate and graduate degrees from Harvard University, Cambridge University, and Stanford University.”

    Also, I’m curious to know why individuals in Mexico invited Dutton to give a presentation on scientific topics when according to Dutton’s own acknowledgement, he lacks the innate cognitive abilities for science. The fundamental core singular pillar upon which science is based is the quantification of evidence using mathematics to create highly reliable theories that have high predictive value. However, Dutton, though possessing very high verbal intelligence, lacks sufficient quantitative intelligence, as well as the complementary visuo-spatial intelligence, to do science. Thus, one may also choose to ask why he was hired as a Professor of a science field as well. Perhaps a little bit of dishonest descriptions of his abilities on his resume? Dutton also had the Chutzpah to claim that while Dr. Michael Anthony Woodley of Menie created the theory of the Spiteful Mutant, he personally developed the theory further. Dr. Woodley formulated the theory of the Spiteful Mutant using a complex mathematical model, as is always done in science. Thus for Dutton to have developed the model futhur, he would have had to reformulate Woodley’s mathematics to create a better mathematical model which was more accurate and had greater predictive value. Dutton clearly did not do this since he lacks the cognitive abilities for this. Thus, it seems to me that in reality, what Dutton did was simply write large volumes of poetry on the topic of Spiteful Mutants.

  299. JackOH says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    ” . . . your race (very important issue) realists like your Mr. Derbyshires, Paul Kerseys, and Steve Sailers to publish here . . .”.

    Agree 100%, Achmed.

    I sort of guess Black-White relations as discussed on this site are something of a sleeper issue, in the sense that White commenters, in my opinion, read articles on anti-White Black violence or the latest demand for reparations from innocent Whites, and just throw up their hands and curse the day the first slaver unloaded its cargo in North America. IOW–few constructive or practical solutions.

    Long story short: I support Nicholas Stix’s work, that, as I understand it, has Black Supremacism, a racially self-serving folk philosophy of justification and aggrandizement, as a serious threat to us all.

    I’m not knocking the genetics race-realist folks, but I think Blacks do have moral and political agency, and the script they’re working from is Black Supremacism. And that spells endless trouble.

  300. @JackOH

    Agreed, Jack. Thank you for bringing up Mr. Stix. He’s been writing about this issue for years and years, but he’s not one of the main writers on this site, which is why I didn’t include him, but should have. (He’s got his own blog and has written more for VDare in the past.)

    So, my apologies, Nick Stix, if you’re reading, but also, thank you again, Ron Unz, for featuring the VDare article more and more. I doubt you will read this, as I’m pretty sure you’ve got me on your IGNORE list by now, but that’s probably best for the both of us. ;-}

  301. @JackOH

    Black ‘Supremacism’???!! Of the most downtrodden group in the Hell of US life. The poorest, most incarcerated, most unemployed, the group that lost, on average, 66% of its pitiful ‘family wealth’ under their false Messiah, Obama-‘Supremacist’? Racists are so fecking stupid.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Troll: Achmed E. Newman
  302. @Wizard of Oz

    Actually Western politicians’ supreme priority is serving their rich Masters, the owners of society, politics, the brainwashing apparatuses and, of course, ‘busyness’, our cancer God. Staying in power flows from that.

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  303. @Wizard of Oz

    I’d say that the odds of that are similar to the actuarially calculated odds that the deaths of so many witnesses and possible informants to the JFK wet job, that occurred in the years afterwards, were all unconnected. How many grains of sand on all the beaches of Earth are there?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  304. @mulga mumblebrain

    In the absence of any detail and calculations that cannot carry any more weight than your saying “that’s not the way it seems to me” tout seul.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  305. Iris says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Actually, such calculation has existed for a long time.

    It has long been of public knowledge that an actuary engaged by the London Sunday Times calculated the odds of 18 material witnesses dying within three years of the JFK assassination. as 1 in 100,000 TRILLION. This alone was clear enough proof of a conspiracy and refuted the Warren Commission conclusion that Oswald was the lone assassin.
    It must be highlighted that this actuary worked with limited information, since at the time, there had been at least 42 suspicious JFK death, making their odds even more surreal.

    In his book “Crossfire”, veteran JFK researcher the late Jim Marrs, provided a list of 103 people who died in mysterious circumstances between 1963 and 1976.

    In 1977 alone, seven top FBI officials died within a six month period, just before they were scheduled to testify at the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA).

    Any retard can see that these untimely deaths are correlated with the JFK inquiry.

    As one of the “Eldest” commenters on this site, you should be teaching us these facts, but here you are, spreading day in day out your “Elder of Zion” laughable propaganda instead.

  306. @Iris

    I have won arguments with actuaries by careful examination of their assumptions and reasoning so I should like to follow up the one you mention if I can find time. Links please. It seems strange that something so striking as one in a trillion probability hasn’t been made more of than I am aware of.

  307. @Iris

    I wonder if you are being entirely honest about the supposedly accurate calculation.

    Doing the Google search you most likely did I immediately came across this

    Some writers who have investigated the assassination of John F. Kennedy have claimed that a large number of witnesses to the event have died in mysterious circumstances. The Sunday Times reported that “the odds against these witnesses being dead by February, 1967, were one hundred thousand trillion to one.” When the Select Committee on Assassinations questioned the newspaper reporter who wrote the article, he admitted he had made a “careless journalistic mistake”.

    In his book Crossfire, the author Jim Marrs, provided a list of 103 people who he claims died in mysterious circumstances between 1963 and 1976. In reality, most of these people died of natural causes. Some of these people did die in accidents. Others were murdered or committed suicide. However, these people rarely had information that would have been important in helping investigators discover if there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy


    *** *** ***

    I accidentally copied a lot more and leave it for what some will think it’s relevance.


    The number of people, not least killers, who must have been involved is huge. Far greater than the resources of the Mossad in the 1960s.

    *** *** ***

    Karyn Kupcinet
    The first person to die linked to the case was Karyn Kupcinet. In his book, Forgive My Grief, W. Penn Jones reports that “a few days before the assassination, Karyn Kupcinet, 23, was trying to place a long distance telephone call from the Los Angeles area. According to reports, the long distance operator heard Miss Kupcinet scream into the telephone that President Kennedy was going to be killed.” Karyn’s body was discovered on 30th November, 1963. Police estimated that she had been dead for two days. The New York Times reported that she had been strangled. Her actor boyfriend, Andrew Prine was the main suspect but he was never charged with the murder and the crime remains unsolved.

    Some researchers claimed that there was a link between the death of Kupcinet and the assassination of John F. Kennedy. It was argued that the conspirators were trying to frighten off her father and journalist, Irv Kupcinet from telling what he knew.

    Grant Stockdale
    Grant Stockdale, a close friend of John F. Kennedy died on 2nd December, 1963 when he fell (or was pushed) from his office on the thirteenth story of the Dupont Building in Miami. Stockdale did not leave a suicide note but his friend, George Smathers, claimed that he had become depressed as a result of the death of the president. However, it later became known that four days after the assassination Stockdale flew to Washington and talked with Robert Kennedy and Edward Kennedy. On his return Stockdale told several of his friends that “the world was closing in.” On 1st December, he spoke to his attorney, William Frates who later recalled: “He started talking. It didn’t make much sense. He said something about ‘those guys’ trying to get him. Then about the assassination.”

    Gary Underhill
    After the assassination of President Kennedy, Gary Underhill told his friend, Charlene Fitsimmons, that he was convinced that he had been killed by members of the CIA. He also said: “Oswald is a patsy. They set him up. It’s too much. The bastards have done something outrageous. They’ve killed the President! I’ve been listening and hearing things. I couldn’t believe they’d get away with it, but they did!”

    Underhill believed there was a connection between Executive Action, Fidel Castro and the death of John F. Kennedy: “They tried it in Cuba and they couldn’t get away with it. Right after the Bay of Pigs. But Kennedy wouldn’t let them do it. And now he’d gotten wind of this and he was really going to blow the whistle on them. And they killed him!”
    Gary Underhill told friends that he feared for his life: “I know who they are. That’s the problem. They know I know. That’s why I’m here. I can’t stay in New York.” Underhill was found dead on 8th May 1964. He had been shot in the head and it was officially ruled that he had committed suicide. However, in his book, Destiny Betrayed (1992), James DiEugenio claimed that the bullet entered the right-handed Underhill’s head behind the left ear.

    Hunter, Koethe & Howard
    There has been a significant number of people who have died who did appear to have important information about the case. This includes several journalists investigating the murder. On 24th November, 1963, Bill Hunter of the Long Beach Press Telegram and Jim Koethe of the Dallas Times Herald interviewed George Senator. Also there was the attorney Tom Howard. Earlier that day Senator and Howard had both visited Jack Ruby in jail. That evening Senator arranged for Koethe, Hunter and Howard to search Ruby’s apartment.

    It is not known what the journalists found but on 23rd April 1964, Hunter was shot dead by Creighton Wiggins, a policeman in the pressroom of a Long Beach police station. Wiggins initially claimed that his gun fired when he dropped it and tried to pick it up. In court this was discovered that this was impossible and it was decided that Hunter had been murdered. Wiggins finally admitted he was playing a game of quick draw with his fellow officer. The other officer, Errol F. Greenleaf, testified he had his back turned when the shooting took place. In January 1965, both were convicted and sentenced to three years probation.

    Jim Koethe decided to write a book about the assassination of Kennedy. However, he died on 21st September, 1964. It seems that a man broke into his Dallas apartment and killed him by a karate chop to the throat. Tom Howard died of a heart-attack, aged 48, in March, 1965.

    Mary Sherman
    On 21st July, 1964, Dr. Mary Sherman was murdered in New Orleans. She had been stabbed in the heart, arm, leg and stomach. Her laboratory was also set on fire. The crime has never been sold. Later Edward T. Haslam published Mary, Ferrie & the Monkey Virus : The Story of an Underground Medical Laboratory. In the book he argued that Sherman was working with David Ferrie. Haslam believed that this Central Intelligence Agency backed research involved disease intelligence gathering and cancer research using laboratory-made biological weapons. Haslam claimed this biological weapon was to be used against Cuba’s Fidel Castro.

    Judyth Baker later began giving interviews aboout involvement in an anti-Castro conspiracy. She claims that in 1963 she was recruited by Dr. Canute Michaelson to work with Dr. Alton Ochsner and Dr. Mary Sherman in a CIA secret project. This involved creating the means to insure Fidel Castro developed cancer.

    In 1963 Judyth moved to New Orleans where she worked closely with others involved in this plot. This included Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferrie, Clay Shaw and Guy Bannister. Later she claimed she began an affair with Oswald. The research into this biological weapon was carried out in the homes of Ferrie and Sherman. Oswald role in this conspiracy was to work as a courier. However, the project was abandoned in September, 1963, and Oswald was ordered to Dallas.

    Assassination of John F. Kennedy Encyclopedia

    Oswald kept in touch with Baker and in November, 1963, he had been forced to join a plot to kill John F. Kennedy. Oswald believed that the conspiracy was being organized by Mafia leader, Carlos Marcello and a CIA agent, David Atlee Phillips. Oswald told her he would do what he could to ensure that Kennedy was not killed. After the assassination of Kennedy and the arrest of Oswald, Baker received a phone-call from David Ferrie warning her that she would be killed if she told anyone about her knowledge of these events.

    Mary Pinchot Meyer
    On 12th October, 1964, Mary Pinchot Meyer was shot dead as she walked along the Chesapeake and Ohio towpath in Georgetown. Henry Wiggins, a car mechanic, was working on a vehicle on Canal Road, when he heard a woman shout out: “Someone help me, someone help me”. He then heard two gunshots. Wiggins ran to the edge of the wall overlooking the towpath. He later told police he saw “a black man in a light jacket, dark slacks, and a dark cap standing over the body of a white woman.”

    Soon afterwards Raymond Crump, a black man, was found not far from the murder scene. He was arrested and charged with Mary’s murder. The towpath and the river were searched but no murder weapon was ever found.

    The media did not report at the time that Mary Pinchot Meyer had been having an affair with John F. Kennedy. Nor did it reveal that her former husband, Cord Meyer, was a senior figure in CIA’s covert operations. As a result, there was little public interest in the case.

    During the trial Wiggins was unable to identify Raymond Crump as the man standing over Meyer’s body. The prosecution was also handicapped by the fact that the police had been unable to find the murder weapon at the scene of the crime. On 29th July, 1965, Crump was acquitted of murdering Mary Meyer. The case remains unsolved.

    In March, 1976, James Truitt gave an interview to the National Enquirer. Truitt told the newspaper that Mary Pinchot Meyer was having an affair with John F. Kennedy. He also claimed that Meyer had told his wife, Ann Truitt, that she was keeping an account of this relationship in her diary. Meyer asked Truitt to take possession of a private diary “if anything ever happened to me”.

    Ann Truitt was living in Tokyo at the time of the murder. She phoned Ben Bradlee at his home and asked him if he had found the diary. Bradlee, who claimed he was unaware of his sister-in-law’s affair with Kennedy, knew nothing about the diary. He later recalled what he did after Truitt’s phone-call: “We didn’t start looking until the next morning, when Tony and I walked around the corner a few blocks to Mary’s house. It was locked, as we had expected, but when we got inside, we found Jim Angleton, and to our complete surprise he told us he, too, was looking for Mary’s diary.”

    James Angleton, CIA counterintelligence chief, admitted that he knew of Mary’s relationship with John F. Kennedy and was searching her home looking for her diary and any letters that would reveal details of the affair. According to Ben Bradlee, it was Mary’s sister, Antoinette Bradlee, who found the diary and letters a few days later. It was claimed that the diary was in a metal box in Mary’s studio. The contents of the box were given to Angleton who claimed he burnt the diary. Angleton later admitted that Mary recorded in her diary that she had taken LSD with Kennedy before “they made love”.

    Leo Damore claimed in an article that appeared in the New York Post that the reason Angleton and Bradlee were looking for the diary was that: “She (Meyer) had access to the highest levels. She was involved in illegal drug activity. What do you think it would do to the beatification of Kennedy if this woman said, ‘It wasn’t Camelot, it was Caligula’s court’?” Damore also said that a figure close to the CIA had told him that Mary’s death had been a professional “hit”.

    There is another possible reason why both Angleton and Bradlee were searching for documents in Meyer’s house. Were they looking for material that Meyer had been collecting on CIA’s covert activities?

    Desmond FitzGerald
    In 1963 Desmond FitzGerald was in charge of the CIA’s Cuban Task Force. In this post he personally organized three different plots to assassinate Fidel Castro. According to Dick Russell, FitzGerald had a meeting in France with a Cuban code-named AM/LASH, finalising a plan to eliminate Castro, at the same time John F. Kennedy was assassinated. FitzGerald died of a heart attack while playing tennis in Virginia on 23rd July, 1967.

    Lisa Howard
    Lisa Howard died at East Hampton, Long Island, on 4th July, 1965. It was officially reported that she had committed suicide. Apparently, she had taken one hundred phenobarbitols. It was claimed she was depressed as a result of losing her job and suffering a miscarriage. At first no one associated Howard’s death with the Kennedy assassination. However, it has recently emerged that Howard was involved in secret negotiations with Fidel Castro on behalf of John F. Kennedy.

    Winston Scott
    Winston Scott was the CIA’s station chief in Mexico. Scott retired in 1969 and wrote a memoir about his time in the FBI, OSS and the CIA. He completed the manuscript, It Came To Late, and made plans to discuss the contents of the book with CIA director, Richard Helms, in Washington on 30th April, 1971. Four days before the agreed meeting Scott died of a heart attack.

    Michael Scott told Dick Russell that James Angleton took away his father’s manuscript. Angleton also confiscated three large cartons of files including a tape-recording of the voice of Lee Harvey Oswald. Michael Scott was also told by a CIA source that his father had not died from natural causes. Scott eventually got his father’s manuscript back from the CIA. However, 150 pages were missing. Chapters 13 to 16 were deleted in their entirety. In fact, everything about his life after 1947 had been removed on grounds of national security.

    Tyler & Kopechne
    Nancy Carole Tyler worked as secretary to Bobby Baker. At the time of the assassination she was living with Mary Jo Kopechne, who worked for George Smathers (she later became secretary to Robert Kennedy). According to W. Penn Jones Jr, it was Tyler and Kopechne who told Baker that John F. Kennedy planned to replace Lyndon B. Johnson as vice president. Tyler died in a plane crash, near Ocean City, Maryland, on 10th May, 1965. Kopechne was later to die in the car of Edward Kennedy on 18th July, 1969.

    Kilgallen & Smith
    Dorothy Kilgallen, a crime reporter of the New York Journal, obtained a private interview with Jack Ruby. She told friends that she had information that would “break the case wide open”. Aware of what had happened to Bill Hunter and Jim Koethe, she handed her interview notes to her friend Margaret Smith. On 8th November, 1965, Kilgallen, was found dead. It was reported she had committed suicide. Her friend, Margaret Smith, died two days later.

    Bannister & Ferrie
    Two of the men that Jim Garrison believed were involved in the conspiracy to kill Kennedy, Guy Bannister (June, 1964), David Ferrie ( February, 1967) and Eladio del Valle (February, 1967) died before they could be brought to court.

    Roger D. Craig
    Roger D. Craig was on duty in Dallas on 22nd November, 1963. After hearing the firing at President John F. Kennedy he ran towards the Grassy Knoll where he interviewed witnesses to the shooting. About 15 minutes later he saw a man running from the back door of the Texas Book Depository down the slope to Elm Street. He then got into a Nash station wagon.

    Craig saw the man again in the office of Captain Will Fitz. It was the recently arrested Lee Harvey Oswald. When Craig told his story about the man being picked up by the station wagon, Oswald replied: “That station wagon belongs to Mrs. Paine… Don’t try to tie her into this. She had nothing to do with it.”

    Craig was also with Seymour Weitzman when the rifle was found on the sixth floor of the Texas Book Depository. He insisted that the rifle was a 7.65 Mauser and not a Mannlicher-Carcano.

    Craig became unpopular with senior police officers in Dallas when he testified before the Warren Commission. He insisted he had seen Lee Harvey Oswald get into the station wagon 15 minutes after the shooting. This was ignored by Earl Warren and his team because it showed that at least two people were involved in the assassination. Craig, unlike Seymour Weitzman, refused to change his mind about finding a Mauser rather than a Mannlicher-Carcano in the Texas Book Depository. Craig was fired from the police department in 1967 after he was found to have discussed his evidence with a journalist.

    In 1967 Roger D. Craig went to New Orleans and was a prosecution witness at the trial of Clay Shaw. Later that year he was shot at while walking to a car park. The bullet only grazed his head. In 1973 a car forced Craig’s car off a mountain road. He was badly injured but he survived the accident. In 1974 he surviving another shooting in Waxahachie, Texas. The following year he was seriously wounded when his car engine exploded. Craig told friends that the Mafia had decided to kill him. Craig was found dead from on 15th May, 1975. It was later decided he had died as a result of self-inflicted gunshot wounds.

    Select Committee investigations
    When the Select Committee on Intelligence Activities and Select Committee on Assassinations began investigating Kennedy’s death in the 1970s the deaths of potential witnesses increased dramatically. This included several criminals with possible links to the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Those who were killed or who died in suspicious circumstances during this period included Malcolm Wallace (1971), Lucien Sarti (1972), Charles Willoughby (1972), Thomas Davis (1973), Richard Cain (1973), Dave Yarras (1974), Sam Giancana (1975), Jimmy Hoffa (1975), Roland Masferrer (1975), Johnny Roselli (1976), George De Mohrenschildt (1977), Charlie Nicoletti (1977) and Carlos Prio (1977).

    William Sullivan, the main figure in the FBI involved in the Executive Action project, was shot dead near his home in Sugar Hill, New Hampshire, on 9th November, 1977. Sullivan had been scheduled to testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

    Sullivan was one of six top FBI officials who died in a six month period in 1977. Others who were due to appear before the committee who died included Louis Nicholas, special assistant to J. Edgar Hoover and his liaison with the Warren Commission; Alan H. Belmont, special assistant to Hoover; James Cadigan, document expert with access to documents that related to death of John F. Kennedy; J. M. English, former head of FBI Forensic Sciences Laboratory where Oswald’s rifle and pistol were tested and Donald Kaylor, FBI fingerprint chemist who examined prints found at the assassination scene.

    Several important figures in the Central Intelligence Agency died before they could give evidence to the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigations. Sheffield Edwards, the CIA official who attempted to organize the assassination of Fidel Castro, died in July, 1975. William Harvey, head of the ZR/RIFLE project, died as a result of complications from heart surgery in June, 1976. William Pawley, who took part in Operation Tilt, died of gunshot wounds in January, 1977. David Morales, who some believe organized the assassination, died aged 53, on 8th May, 1978. Another important figure in CIA covert operations, Thomas Karamessines died of a heart attack on 4th September, 1978.

    John Paisley was deputy director of the Office of Strategic Research. On 24th September, 1978, John Paisley, took a trip on his motorized sailboat on Chesapeake Bay. Two days later his boat was found moored in Solomons, Maryland. Paisley’s body was found in Maryland’s Patuxent River. The body was fixed to diving weights. He had been shot in the head. Police investigators described it as “an execution-type murder”. However, officially Paisley’s death was recorded as a suicide.

    According to the journalist, Victor Marchetti, Paisley was a close friend of Yuri Nosenko. Marchetti also claimed that Paisley knew a great deal about the assassination of John F. Kennedy and was murdered during the House Select Committee on Assassinations investigation because he was “about to blow the whistle”.

    By John Simkin ([email protected]) © September 1997 (updated January 2020).
    Primary Sources
    (1) James DiEugenio, Destiny Betrayed (1992)
    On that evening of November 22, 1963, Gary Underhill was a deeply troubled man. What he had learned, and the fact that they knew he had learned it, were too much for him. He had to escape. Once he was out of Washington, he could regain his equilibrium. Then he would decide what to do. He had friends in New York he could talk to without fear of the word getting back to Washington.

    (2) Paul Golais, The Citizen’s Voice (8th April, 2001)
    Only hours after Kennedy was shot, CIA agent Gary Underhill left Washington, D.C., and drove to the home of friends on Long Island, N.Y. Underhill says he fears for his life and he must leave the country. “This country is too dangerous for me. I’ve got to get on a boat. Oswald is a patsy. They set him up. It’s too much. The bastards have done something outrageous. They’ve killed the president! I’ve been listening and hearing things. I couldn’t believe they’d get away with it, but they did. They’ve gone made! They’re a bunch of drug runners and gun runners – a real violence group.I know who they are. That’s the problem. They know I know. That’s why I’m here.”

    (3) James DiEugenio, review of Gerald Posner’s book Case Closed (1993)
    Posner writes that there is no source for the claim that Gary Underhill was a former CIA agent, and “no corroboration that he ever said there was CIA complicity in the assassination.” I hate to plug my own work, but in Destiny Betrayed, Posner would have learned there are several sources for Underhill’s wartime OSS career and his later CIA consulting status, including Underhill himself. As for his accusations about the CIA and the murder of JFK, he related them quite vividly to his friend Charlene Fitsimmons within 24 hours of the shooting. She then forwarded a letter to Jim Garrison relating the incident in detail.

    (4) W. Penn Jones, Disappearing Witnesses included in The Rebel (22nd November, 1983)
    Shortly after dark on Sunday night, November 24, 1963, after Ruby had killed Lee Harvey Oswald, a meeting took place in Jack Ruby’s apartment in Oak Cliff, a suburb of Dallas, Texas. Five persons were present. George Senator and Attorney Tom Howard were present and having a drink in the apartment when two newsmen arrived. The newsmen were Bill Hunter of the Long Beach California Press Telegram and Jim Koethe of the Dallas Times Herald. Attorney C.A. Droby of Dallas arranged the meeting for the two newsmen, Jim Martin, a close friend of George Senator’s, was also present at the apartment meeting. This writer asked Martin if he thought it was unusual for Senator to forget the meeting while testifying in Washington on April 22, 1964, since Bill Hunter, who was a newsman present at the meeting, was shot to death that very night. Martin grinned and said: “Oh, you’re looking for a conspiracy.”

    I nodded yes and he grinned and said, “You will never find it.”

    I asked soberly, “Never find it, or not there?”

    He added soberly, “Not there.”

    Bill Hunter, a native of Dallas and an award-winning newsman in Long Beach, was on duty and reading a book in the police station called the “Public Safety Building.” Two policemen going off duty came into the press room, and one policeman shot Hunter through the heart at a range officially ruled to be “no more than three feet.” The policeman said he dropped his gun, and it fired as he picked it up, but the angle of the bullet caused him to change his story. He finally said he was playing a game of quick draw with his fellow officer. The other officer testified he had his back turned when the shooting took place.

    Hunter, who covered the assassination for his paper, the Long Beach Press Telegram had written:

    “Within minutes of Ruby’s execution of Oswald, before the eyes of millions watching television, at least two Dallas attorneys appeared to talk with him.”

    Hunter was quoting Tom Howard who died of a heart attack in Dallas a few months after Hunter’s own death. Lawyer Tom Howard was observed acting strangely to his friends two days before his death. Howard was taken to the hospital by a “friend” according to the newspapers. No autopsy was performed.

    Dallas Times Herald reporter Jim Koethe was killed by a karate chop to the throat just as he emerged from a shower in his apartment on Sept. 21, 1964. His murderer was not indicted.

    What went on in that significant meeting in Ruby’s and Senator’s apartment?

    Few are left to tell. There is no one in authority to ask the question, since the Warren Commission has made its final report, and the House Select Committee has closed its investigation.

    (5) Bill Sloan, JFK: Breaking the Silence (1993)
    At approximately 2 a.m. on the morning of April 23, 1964, Hunter was sitting at his desk in the press room of the Long Beach police station and reading a mystery novel entitled Stop This Man, when two detectives – both of whom were later described as “friends” of Hunter – came into the room.

    Initially, there was considerable confusion over exactly what happened next. One officer was first quoted as saying he dropped his gun, causing it to discharge as it struck the floor. Later, he changed his story to say that he and the other detective were engaged in “horseplay” with their loaded weapons when the tragedy occurred.

    Whatever the case, a single shot suddenly rang out, striking Hunter where he sat. An autopsy later showed that the .38-caliber bullet plowed straight through Hunter’s heart.

    He died instantly, without ever moving or saying a word.

    “My boss called me at 2 a.m. and told me Bill Hunter had been shot,” Bill Shelton recalls. “He wasn’t satisfied with the story that the cop had dropped his gun, and as it turned out, that wasn’t what happened at all.”

    The newspaper charged police with covering up the facts in the case, which Long Beach Police Chief William Mooney vigorously denied. Detectives Creighton Wiggins, Jr., and Errol F. Greenleaf were relieved of their duties and subsequently charged with involuntary manslaughter. In January 1965, both were convicted and given identical three-year probated sentences.

    Two weeks after the shooting, in a letter of resignation to his chief, Detective Wiggins wrote: “It is a tragic thing that this must come about in this manner, for I have lost a wonderful friend in Bill Hunter and so have all the police officers of the department… he was truly the policeman’s friend.”

    While Hunter’s death made sensational headlines in California, it was scarcely noted 2,000 miles away in Dallas. Jim Koethe surely mourned his friend, but if he connected Hunter’s death in any way with their visit to Ruby’s apartment five months earlier, he didn’t mention it to any of his acquaintances at the Times-Herald.

    (6) New York Journal American (15th November, 1965)
    The death of Dorothy Kilgallen, Journal-American columnist and famed TV personality, was contributed to by a combination of moderate quantities of alcohol and barbiturates, a medical examiner’s report stated today.

    As many personalities whose multiple duties and responsibilities demand unceasing attention, Miss Kilgallen experienced recurring tensions in meeting her deadlines for performances – both as a newspaperwoman and TV performer.

    In his report today, Dr. James Luke, Assistant Medical Examiner, said that although Miss Kilgallen had only “moderate amounts of each,” the effect of the combination had caused depression of the central nervous system “which in turn caused her heart to stop.”

    (7) Jim Marrs, Crossfire (1989)
    Whatever information Kilgallen learned and from whatever source, many researchers believe it brought about her strange death. She told attorney Mark Lane: “They’ve killed the President, (and) the government is not prepared to tell us the truth . . . ” and that she planned to “break the case.” To other friends she said: “This has to be a conspiracy! . . . I’m going to break the real story and have the biggest scoop of the century.” And in her last column item regarding the assassination, published on September 3, 1965, Kilgallen wrote: “This story isn’t going to die as long as there’s a real reporter alive – and there are a lot of them.” But on November 8, 1965, there was one less reporter. That day Dorothy Kilgallen was found dead in her home. It was initially reported that she died of a heart attack, but quickly this was changed to an overdose of alcohol and pills.

    (8) Matthew Smith, JFK: The Second Plot (1992)

    Roger Craig had been named Officer of the Year by the Dallas Traffic Commission and he was promoted four times. He was to receive no further promotion or commendation after his refusal to withdraw his identification of the Mauser and admit to being wrong about his identification of the man who ran from the Depository to be picked up by the Rambler on Elm Street. For this he suffered the most dire consequences. Craig was forbidden to speak to reporters about these things and when, in 1967, he was caught doing so he was fired. Thereafter he spoke of a consciousness of being followed, and was fired at by an unknown assailant. The bullet came uncomfortably close and, in fact, grazed his head. He began receiving threats and, in 1973, his car was run off a mountain road causing him a back injury, the pain from which was to become a permanent feature of his life. On another occasion his car was bombed. His marriage broke up in 1973 as a consequence of the continuing harassment, which did not abate. In 1975 he was shot at and wounded in the shoulder by another unknown gunman. At the age of 39, Roger Craig, suffering from the stress of the constant back pains he endured and the financial pressures he encountered because of finding it difficult to get work, succumbed, they said, and committed suicide. They said.

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  308. Iris says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I wonder if you are being entirely honest about the supposedly accurate calculation.

    Of course I am not honest !!! Everybody knows that only Hasbara activists and Zionist militants are driven by pure honesty and unblemished integrity.

    Anyway…. There is an entire book on the topic, which is rated 4 stars on Amazon.

    The author, Richard Charnin, also manages a blog where he describes the historic of his work:

    His calculation spreadsheet is in free access:

    The methods supporting the field of Statistics happen to be, overall, the simplest of all in the field of Mathematics.

    In particular, these JFK calculations and supporting hypothesis are actually based only on the Poisson Probability Function. They should therefore have been easy to debunk mathematically if they were wrong, instead of just splashing the usual vague name-calling and illiterate smearing.

    So these uneducated critics are irrelevant: they should show the mathematical flaw if any, otherwise they can shut up.

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  309. Iris says:

    An important opinion paper, signed by no less than economist Jeffrey Sachs, has been produced to incite investigating a possible engineered origin of SARS-CoV2.

    For the first time, a mainstream public American voice is advising to also investigate a possible implication of the USA in the production of a virus that caused 6 million deaths so far.

    Essential US Investigations

    The US intelligence community (IC) was tasked, in 2021 by President Joe Biden (4), with investigating the origin of the virus. In their summary public statement, the IC writes that “all agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident” (4). The IC further writes that “China’s cooperation most likely would be needed to reach a conclusive assessment of the origins of COVID-19 [coronavirus disease 2019].” Of course, such cooperation is highly warranted and should be pursued by the US Government and the US scientific community. Yet, as outlined below, much could be learned by investigating US-supported and US-based work that was underway in collaboration with Wuhan-based institutions, including the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), China. It is still not clear whether the IC investigated these US-supported and US-based activities. If it did, it has yet to make any of its findings available to the US scientific community for independent and transparent analysis and assessment. If, on the other hand, the IC did not investigate these US-supported and US-based activities, then it has fallen far short of conducting a comprehensive investigation.

    Maybe this is just damage control, after the USA laboratories in Ukraine were so pathetically exposed at the UN. But this call certainly resonates as a vindication or Mr Unz’ very early questioning of the official Covid narrative. Mr Sachs’ call was echoed in leading medical publication The Lancet.

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  310. Anyone wanting to protect from Covid, should stop by a home improvement store, and buy a P100 respirator mask. Around \$30 in America, and will last indefinitely. May look funny, but if you want serious protection from inhaling the virus, there it is.

    I think it is sad the world did not focus on an improved respiratory mask. One that is easy to use, does not fog up glasses, looks good, a little microphone for easier communication, so on.

    Generally, the world seems unable to deal with any serious problems these days.

  311. geokat62 says:
    @Brooklyn D

    Anyone wanting to protect from Covid, should stop by a home improvement store, and buy a P100 respirator mask. Around \$30 in America, and will last indefinitely. May look funny…

    Funny? Nah, most people would feel very comfortable sporting this little puppy next time they place their order for a latte…

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
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  312. @anon


    That’s why it’s 35 year olds that wanna, one day, blow out more birthday candles than the next guy and so they readily waste time & money in gyms. 75 year olds? – not so much.

  313. @Anonymous

    Most “excess deaths” actually occurred because medicine had its hands tied behind its back (“big pharma” moved to outlaw the timely use of horse paste, HCQ, etc using hospital administrators – with, um, MBA’s, not MD’s) which often can (as we know from India’s experience) greatly reduce death from COVID-19.

    Never forget that!

  314. @Haxo Angmark

    Far too few medical autopsies are even performed these days (Pathology groups and hospital administrators don’t get reimbursed but diddly for those and, properly done, they require time, personnel, and materials). Frankly there should have been zillions of them performed – at least initially!

    The few published autopsies I’ve been able to find (in formerly respectable journals) were far too obsessed with nonspecific findings you can find in almost anybody dying – from pneumonia, sepsis of any origin, or any cardiopulmonary collapse for almost any reason – particularly if they’ve been maintained on a vent for a few days. Amateur stuff there.

    And then, there’s open lung biopsies? Sometimes done in the past when someone develops pulmonary failure (requires a vent) for any unknown reason. Never seen it done in these COVID cases!

    Hmmm. Flim flam, for sure.

  315. @Marcion

    In the olden days (60+ years ago) it was one of the causes of the so-called “chest cold” as opposed to the “head cold” – the latter, typically a rhinovirus (no fever, runny nose, sneezing, etc.). Chest colds were the more sickly ones, you often wound up coughing your fool ass off – sometimes sporadically for a week or more. But it is not a flu. Loss of your sense of taste (like, 100% [food tastes like styrofoam] despite a clear dry nose) is characteristic, usually temporary, although in a few it persists – sometimes permanently – some don’t seem to experience it, and some Coronaviruses don’t cause that.

    BTW, I’m a virologist (trained in that discipline among other medical sciences – pre-affirmative action days) .

  316. @Iris

    Thank you . I wish I had more time than I have just used refreshing my distant knowledge of the Poisson distribution which always brings back to me immediately the pattern of V1 and V2 strikes on London. I note that up to four conditions are nominated as required to be met. It is not yet obvious to me that the Poisson probabilities can meet all those necessary in this case. The sources of bias could be many. E.g. If one scanned all MSM reports of deaths of people with a mentioned connection of some kind to the JFK assassination or its investigation one might be getting a far from random sample.

  317. @Brooklyn D

    What is sad, Brooklyn D, is that you are still worried about this BS, after more than 2 years of stupidity and outright lies from all the “experts”. This whole time, I didn’t fall for a lick of it.

    However, I respect your right to pay 30 bucks at Home Depot to go around looking like a dork. There’s no law against that, just as there should be no law forcing me to do that.

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  318. @Achmed E. Newman

    If you are capable of rational thought, the dumb people are the ones who worry about COVID, and then wear ineffective masks.

    Try to think.

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  319. @geokat62

    Standing in line for a latte, is stupid.

    Caring what strangers think, is even more stupid.

    Telling strangers what you think of their appearance, is moronic.

  320. @Iris

    You wrote:

    In 1977 alone, seven top FBI officials died within a six month period, just before they were scheduled to testify at the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA).

    1977 was an interesting year for unexplained deaths relating to the JFK coup d’etat.

    Lee Harvey Oswald’s handler in 1962/63 was George de Mohrenschildt who on March 29, 1977 gave an interview to author Edward Jay Epstein.
    On the same day as the Epstein interview, de Mohrenschildt received a business card from Gaeton Fonzi, an investigator for the House Select Committee on Assassinations, telling him that he would like to see him.
    The HSCA considered him a “crucial witness”.
    (De Mohrenschildt’s testimony before the Warren Commission investigating the JFK assassination was one of the longest of any witness. According to Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, then chief Pentagon-to-CIA liaison officer, de Mohrenschildt also had several private lunches with former CIA director and Warren Commission member Allen Dulles while testifying).

    According to Wikipedia:
    ‘that afternoon [March 29, 1977], de Mohrenschildt was found dead from a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head in a house at which he was staying in Manalapan, Florida.
    The coroner’s verdict was suicide’.

    Needless to say, he didn’t kill himself. He was ‘suicided’.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Truth Vigilante
  321. @Iris

    Various organs of mendacity like the foetid BBC STILL deny US bio-labs were present in Ukraine. Lies R Us.

  322. @Wizard of Oz

    Where have you been the last fifty-nine years? These deaths and various calculations concerning the probability that they were ‘Natural’ and unrelated are widely known.
    On another tack, did you know that Bertie Russell saw through the cover-up pretty quickly, at the age of ninety plus. His ’16 Questions on the Assassination’ published in September, 1964, are, in my opinion, highly cogent.

  323. @Brooklyn D

    I’ve been thinking about the stupidity of the entire Kung Flu PanicFest for the last 2 1/4 years. My thoughts have always been rational, as opposed to pure panic. Going into Home Depot or Ace Hardware to buy a mask for anything other than woodworking or spending lots of time in the attic is much closer to the latter.

    Have at it, though. I have no problem with your wearing one all day and all of the night. That helps me pretend this is still a free country of some sort …

  324. @Brooklyn D

    You’re right about all 3 perhaps, but those commas should not be there. I do care about grammar. (See what I mean? No commas are necessary.)

  325. geokat62 says:
    @Brooklyn D

    Standing in line for a latte, is stupid.

    Caring what strangers think, is even more stupid.

    Telling strangers what you think of their appearance, is moronic.

    … and lacking a sense of humour is regrettable.

  326. Iris says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Needless to say, he didn’t kill himself. He was ‘suicided’.

    Of course he was. I haven’t had the time to research this topic very well, but if I remember correctly, De Mohrenschildt was also acquainted with Mrs Jacqueline Bouvier-Kennedy’s family.

    This fact sheds a very different light on his relationship with Oswald, on Oswald’s wife repeated claims that LHO actually was a big fan and loved JFK. On many testimonies stating that Oswald was part of a secret “abort mission” meant at protecting Kennedy’s life, after he escaped two assassination attempts just before Dallas. On the claims that Oswald’s abort team was working under supervision of RFK himself to protect the life of his brother.

    The Kennedy assassination was a very cunning and complex operation, where people sincerely supporting JFK were tricked and double-crossed, so as to indirectly implicate them in a tragedy they were unable to prevent, and hence silence them retrospectively.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  327. @mulga mumblebrain

    I have yet to follow up on the 16 Questions but, as a lifetime admirer of Bertrand Russell I immediately put my memory into action and was pleased that I came up precisely with Ralph Schoenman as his young American secretary from 1960 who was commonly thought to have too much influence on him in his 90s though not so much that Russell didn’t free himself of Schoenman at 98. See FWIW

    Born in Brooklyn, New York, Schoenman was educated at Princeton University but then left the U.S. for Britain in 1958. He was involved in various protest activities during his student days and became active in the CND after arriving in Britain. This brought him into contact with Russell, for whom Schoenman began working in 1960. Bernard Levin wrote critically of Schoenman’s influence on Russell, saying that Schoenman was partly responsible for Russell’s virulent anti-Americanism, in contrast to his earlier pronouncements against communism. Russell said of Schoenman, “You know he is a rather rash young man, and I have to restrain him.”.

    Still not on to the 16 Questions but I was also prompted to look up his youngest son (and 5th Earl) Conrad whom I met but sadly never got to know.

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  328. @mulga mumblebrain

    Thanks for putting me on to thec16 Questions which I shall finish reading and considering properly I hope. I know enough erysipelas sharp nonagenarians to believe it could be Russell’s own work.

  329. @Truth Vigilante

    You would have thought that with his 5000 word comment earlier that Dunce of Oz would have covered most of the high profile unexplained deaths surrounding the JFK coup d’etat.

    He left out LBJ’s personal hit man – Malcolm ‘Mac’ Wallace.

    Wallace murdered John Kinser in the early 1950’s for two reasons. Firstly, Kinser was screwing his wife. Secondly, Kinser was also doing LBJ’s sister Josefa.
    It’s unlikely that Wallace would have killed over his wife’s affair, because he knew she was a bit of a whore.
    It was LBJ that put him up to it.

    LBJ used his high priced personal defence attorney to represent Wallace. In Texas, being found guilty of first degree murder almost invariably meant you’d get the electric chair.
    Well, the evidence was so overwhelming that Wallace was indeed found guilty.
    But, such was LBJ’s clout, not only did Wallace not get the chair, he did NOT even get a custodial sentence.
    Wallace walked away with a five year suspended sentence.

    Anyway, of the half dozen or so shooters in Dealey Plaza that day in 1963, Wallace was one of them. He was previously in the U.S Marine Corps, and of the three categories of shooting expertise in ascending order of merit (ie: Marksman, Sharpshooter and Expert), Wallace was the latter – an expert shot.
    Lee Harvey Oswald was not the shooter but there was in fact a shooter on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository that day. It was Malcolm ‘Mac’ Wallace and his fingerprints were positively identified:

    Anyway, he died in an unexplained incident when his ‘car ran off the road’ in 1971.
    At the time Wallace’s financial situation was precarious and it was rumoured that he tried to extort more money from LBJ or else he’d release certain information about the JFK conspiracy.

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  330. @Wizard of Oz

    Wow! What a flattering Autofill – concerning my AI assessed vocab!

  331. @Truth Vigilante

    Fascinating. I don’t think I’ve come across any of that, even in UR. My interest in the JFK assassination was raised by UR when I was less sceptical of Ron’s standards of scepticism and credulity. I would still like him to apply his mathematical skills to everything he can in his examinations of alleged conspiracies. Or get someone like Razib Khan to do it.

  332. @Wizard of Oz

    I last encountered erysipelas as a nasty skin infection. Does it have another meaning? I do like watching Bertie on YouTube. Even into his eighties and nineties he was not just lucid, but chose the correct or nearest correct word in every instance, and spoke without hesitation, repetition or deviation.

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  333. @Wizard of Oz

    The idea that any young person would control Bertie at any age is preposterous. Bernard Levin, in my opinion, was a malignant buffoon. Bertie was anti-communist and anti-American-in Levin’s Manichean Judaic mind, with its extremes of black and white, such a position is impossible to comprehend. Bertie was no great friend of Israel, either, in his latter years.

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  334. @mulga mumblebrain

    I remember Bernard Levin as being quite readable but pretty well gave up on him when I discovered that he had joined the crooked bizarre Bhawan’s ashram in Poona or wherever it was before Oregon. I can quite sea that in the first flush of enthusiasm for his new young American friend Russell might have accepted too much from him as reliable – as I infer he came to see for himself at age 98.

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  335. @mulga mumblebrain

    I hope that your encounter with the Greek scholar’s disease wasn’t in an embarrassing place.

    I vaguely recall the Bertrand Russell style of speech which is amusingly reflected in the descriptions of his son Conrad’s style of formal and not so formal speech. Apparently he was brought up by his mother but was advised about his manner of speech by his father. At Yale students said they couldn’t understand him.

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  336. Ron Unz, I hope you’re reading this because the following info challenges your assertion that Covid-19 killed a million Americans:

    The article is titled ‘New Study concludes Lockdowns caused at least 170,000+ excess deaths in the U.S’.

    Many of the UR readers have been consistently saying that the CDC figures you rely on are wildly exaggerated.
    We’ve been saying that the vaccines have killed more people (BY FAR) than Covid.
    We’ve been saying that suicides and other deaths of despair are responsible for many of the deaths.
    We’ve been saying that many died from medical malpractice (Ventilator induced lung injuries) and outright euthanasia (nursing home patients administered with lethal doses of Midazolam and others given Remdesivir).

    Well, here it is Ron. LOCKDOWNS alone have killed 170,000 plus.

    Bottom Line: Professors Kulldorff, Gupta and Bhattacharya (lead signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration) were right all along.

    They said that the lockdowns were killing (by a FACTOR OF TEN at least), more people than Covid.

    I believe that when the facts become public, it will be shown that the mRNA experimental gene therapies that masquerade as Covid vaccines will have killed FAR more people than Covid – perhaps by a factor ten or more.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
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  337. According to only 36% of Ukrainians have received even one Covid vaccine jab (Poland, Latvia, Austria, Lithuania, Estonia all have FULL Vaccination rates of 60-75%). Yet the Ukrainian refugees are welcomed everywhere! Surprising that US-puppet Ukraine is not FULLY vaccinated while the US is even vaccinating our toddlers?

    And certainly this has nothing to do with the 30+ US-bioweapon labs captured by the Russians in Ukraine? Biden just sent ANOTHER \$billion. What are the odds that the US is working on bioweapons targeted to Slavs? Do they want as many Covid naive AZOV animals as possible to infect with new strains to pass on to the evil Slavic (non-NAZI) children?

    Something right up Ron Unz’s alley!

  338. @Truth Vigilante

    I agree that the ‘vaccines’ are killers, having caused the deaths already of more people than all other vaccines ever, combined. I agree that the virus, so far, is virtually harmless to the healthy under sixty or so, particularly the young. I agree that the response by ‘authorities’, paricularly the monstrous campaign to stop re-purposed medications like IVM, has been INSANE, and, if deliberate, Evil. And I follow van den Bossche as best I can to see that mass, repeated, ‘vaxxing’ during the epidemic has caused more infectious variants like omicron to develop, through selection pressure. We’ll see if he is correct regarding the likelihood of new varieties more virulent. And I believe that the long-term effects of this carefully crafted bio-weapon are likely to be very unfortunate.

  339. @Wizard of Oz

    Wizz, I know erysipelas. I’ve seen erysipelas. Erysipelas was no friend of mine. But I still cannot understand what ‘erysipelas sharp nonagenarians’ means. Please lift my cloud of unknowing.

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  340. @Wizard of Oz

    Lots of sex at the Rajneeshi’s ‘ashrams’. Even for the likes of Levin.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  341. @mulga mumblebrain

    I credited you with having worked it out from my devious reference to Autofill. The word I clumsily gave to Autofill to work its way on was supposed to be “very” I am almost certain.

  342. Nancy says:

    And the ‘universal enforcers’… Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street (et al) who own controlling interests in 90% of all corporations…. all around the world. Hence the ‘magic’ coordinated appearance and strategies.

    • Replies: @aj54
  343. Nancy says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Agree. I don’t expect perfection from…. anywhere/one. (It is often used to subvert the good.) But I do expect that Ron will .. eventually.. see the big ‘covid/jab’ picture, and, when he can no longer be accused of ‘killing granny’, he’ll add it up for us, as he’s done so well for so many conspiracy/histories.
    TIA, Ron : )

  344. @Hartmann

    By supporting Unz’s theory I meant that Huff gave a good background to the fact that SARS-CoV2 or a precursor likely came from the US, and that the CIA was heavily involved, inferring “bioweapon”. That is an important piece of the puzzle, although Huff seems to have been canceled since then (I stayed up to hear him on coasttocoastam, but he wasn’t on).
    Fauci has claimed, in part of many claims, that the GOF work was done in China because it was safer to do there. Right. As with most scientific enterprises there were lots of scientists with their thumbs in the pie, and disowning their contributions due to 6.3 million deaths is disingenous. By now I expected more to come out like Huff, who had left EcoAlliance and Peter Daszak BEFORE the sh!t hit the fan, so while his testimony is interesting, it is only background, but illuminating.
    And intentionality is a whole other piece of the puzzle which MAY come out in 75 years to avoid embarrassing our fine politicians and out-of-control scientists. The scientific work itself is always neutral and if competently done with the correct intentions can be beneficial to society. But it seems most of the money available is tied to bioweapons.

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  345. Tucker says:

    So, there have been 1.3 million so-called ‘excess deaths’ over the last two years, coinciding with the mysterious arrival of this lab created and juiced up ‘covid-19’ virus.

    And, now we see reports that these deadly vaccines – in addition to the explosion of adverse side effects, as is being documented by the VAERS database – there is this latest bit of news:
    Another conspiracy theory comes true

    mRNA Covid vaccination reduces sperm count for up to five months


    So, the skeptics and so-called ‘conspiracy theorists’ have been saying all along that the vaccines were designed to ‘cull’ the populations and were intended to attack the reproductive systems and lower the fertility rates of people who stupidly trusted their governments and took the jabs. Lowering the sperm counts of men, sounds very much like a scheme to do precisely that. Oh, and assuming the sperm counts can bounce back after 5 months – bingo, time to get a booster, right? Keep those sperm counts heading south – and eventually, the recipients of these vaccines will wind up sterile. That sounds an awful lot like an agenda to engineer the genocide of millions of people around the world, does it not?

    Oh, one other thing that occurred to me. We have all been reading about the pending collapse of the Social Security and Medicare programs, as well as many state and federal pension programs due to them being underfunded. I remember first hearing about this about 14 years ago – when I read an article in a major newspaper that said SSA and Medicare had enormous unfunded liabilities and nothing was being done by Congress to address those liabilities. The figures 14 years ago were around \$4.6 and \$4.7 trillion, if my memory serves me correctly.

    Here is the news from 2021: › articles › 2021 › 05 › 05 › 96_trillion_in_unfunded_us_medicare_and_social_security_benefits_775259.html#!

    “\$96 Trillion in Unfunded U.S. Medicare and Social Security Benefits
    May 5, 2021While Uncle Sam has \$5.9 trillion in assets, the \$129 trillion owed in bills — including military and civilian retirement benefits — means the U.S. is in the hole for \$123 trillion. Just the unfunded liabilities in Medicare and Social Security add up to \$96 trillion. It is a stunning amount coming due over the next 75 years.”

    So, it looks to me like the Deep State rubbed their magic lamp and produced this covid-19 pandemic as a way to kill off as many old people as possible – so they won’t have to pay them their Social Security, Medicare, or government or military pensions. A suspicion which seems to be supported by this bit of news:

    REVEALED: Over 50,000 Americans 65 and over died within two weeks of vaccine

    “Attorney Thomas Renz: “They say, ‘Well, we don’t count anyone as vaccinated until 14 days after their full vaccination,’ so that means until 14 days after your second dose, it’s not counted. Well, they did that because they know most reactions occur within 14 days of either your first or second dose… [As of] November/December [2021], there were 52,000ish [people aged 65 and up] who died within 14 days.” Watch: ”

    Oh, and by the way. Biden and our US Congress (dems and pubs both) just voted to send over \$40 billion dollars of our hard earned money to Ukraine and are promising to send them at least \$1 billion more dollars PER YEAR, apparently with no end in sight.

    But, these diabolically evil SOB’s would rather unleash a virus that Fauci and his boys juiced up to be extra contagious and harmful on the USA, and then, roll out experimental vaccines that have hundreds of life threatening adverse side effects, including DEATH – than to spend any of our tax dollars on shoring up SSA, Medicare, and US Government and military retirement pensions?

    Aside from recognizing this country has been hijacked by the most diabolically evil collection of mentally insane psychopaths – what possible explanation can there be for what our rulers are doing to their own fellow countrymen – except that they have an intense hatred for us and are deliberately trying to kill us?

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  346. Athena says:

    Dominique De Silva

    Victim of the vaccine: tremors, convulsiona, neurological damage and dysfunction of the central nervous system (DYSTONIA):

  347. Athena says:

    The unspeakable selfishness of Pfizer : culpabilizing people who refuse injections of substances of unpredictable effects in their body (podcast below with Mrs Dominique De Silva), using the pretext that they are selfish because they don’t contribute to the health of the community.

    Instead of culpabilizing people who refuse the vaccine, Pfizer and totally idiot people should stop using the social media to ostracize people and make them feel responsible for the dissemination of covid-19, because they decided not be used to test the vaccine. On the contrary, that’s Pfizer who is unbelievably selfish by imposing its vaccine on people, of using people’s body to inject its substances, while refusing to compensate people injured by the vaccine like Dominique De Silva.

    Dystonia can be compared to torture: the spasms in the muscles occur repeatedly 24 h a day, 365 days a year. The entire life is affected (i.s. scrapped). No solution has been found to this day, as the central nervous system (cerebellum) is affected. (It’s often said to be worse than cancer because there is no solution, you’ll have to endure for the rest of your life.)

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  348. @Athena

    “culpabilizing” = “blaming”. Just write “blaming”.

    No, I didn’t take the vaccine. I don’t look at Social Media, unless the Peak Stupidity blog counts as Social Media.

  349. @Tucker

    There is NO surer sign that information is true or very near so than some political, MSM or business pos declaring it a ‘conspiracy theory’. We live in an ocean of lies, and the lying barracuda do not even notice the water.

  350. @michael888

    The US ‘prohibition’ on GOF research, which only lasted from 2014-7, was only for Government funding. I would bet that the research went on, funded by other means, in the HUGE archipelago of US bio-warfare research labs around the world.
    And, as a USA Today report some years ago showed, US bio-research labs are like sieves, with scores of leaks and other accidents, and, of course, the unpublicised closure of AMRIID in July 2019, by the CDC, for faults in its waste disposal system.

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  351. @mulga mumblebrain

    True, and Anthony Fauci also claimed the right to continue to fund “important” on-going gain-of-fuction projects. If any GOF projects were stopped by NIAID during the Moratorium (unlikely), it would have been in new grants at this time.
    I still wonder why Ukraine, a US puppet state, has such a low Covid vaccination rate; surely they had access to the same vaccines the US does. The only thing that makes sense is that US biolabs in Ukraine were trying to make genetic-specific/ selective (aimed at Slavs) Covid variants where non-ethnic Russian Ukrainians could be carriers. There has been talk of Israel doing the same with bioweapons aimed at Palestinians; probably just conspiracy theory?
    Mistakes happen all the time in labs. Also while extreme protective measures are taken when known bioweapons or biochemicals are used in the lab, most projects are more lax. I still think SARS-CoV2 likely came from a novel but “innocuous” human common cold coronavirus, to which someone added the “human-like” codons for a furin cleavage site, just to make it more easy to grow in human cell culture in the lab. Since the main targets of Covid are the Elderly (median age of victims globally >80 years old) and the Seriously Ill (cancer and transplant patients and others with poor immunity), young healthy technicians could easily contract the ‘new, improved’ virus and spread the virus unwittingly. I don’t discount the possibility that the CIA or other bioweapons scientists opportunistically discovered and used such a virus, but likely its creation was a mistake, disasterous for mankind, but fortuitous for our spooks’ purposes.

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  352. @michael888

    While considering the purpose of the US biolabs in Ukraine was to make a Slav-specific deadly coronavirus (Covid-Slav), I initially dismissed the idea as Russia (at 2609 Covid deaths per million) and Ukraine (at 2514 deaths per million), with the highest populations of Slavs, were #30 and #33 worst, of ~220 listed countries (not great, but not even as bad as the US, 3110 Covid deaths per million, #17 worst). However Poland has the third highest number of Slavs and is #19 with 3089 deaths per million. The Czech Republic has the fourth highest number of Slavs and is #9 in Covid death rate at 3751 per million. Belarus and Serbia are fifth and sixth in Slav number at #113 and #57 (not so badly affected). Bulgaria is seventh in Slavs, but #2 in Covid deaths at 5442 per million. Slovakia is eighth in Slavs and #10 in Covid death rate (3686 per million). Croatia is ninth in Slav number, #8 in Covid death rate (3960 per million). Bosnia and Herzegovinia is tenth in Slavs, and #3 in Covid death rate (4877 per million). Slovenia is eleventh in Slavic population and #14 in Covid death rate (3198 per million). Montenegro is twelveth in Slavs and #6 in Covid death rate (4338 per million). North Macedonia is thirteenth in number of Slavs and #5 at 4475 Covid deaths per million.
    (Other “non-Slav” countries among the worst Covid death rates are Peru, Hungary, Georgia, Lithuania, Romania, San Marino, Latvia, Brazil, US and Gibraltar.)
    While many (9 of 13) of the Slavic countries have among the worst/highest Covid death rates–#19, #9,#2, #10, #8, #3, #14, #6, and #5– The other four Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Serbia actually SEEM more Slavic? Quite probably these data are just an anomaly of the geography and the spread of NATURAL Covid strains and the health care in different countries. But there is no harm in speculating that the US was developing bioweapons to wipe out the untermenschen.
    This quick analysis is based on reported Slav population by country and their Covid death rates; much more interesting would be the percentage of Covid deaths in Slavs relative to Slavs in the population of each country. Not likely to see those data.
    There are genetic differences between different Slavic groups, and also likely “Slavic genes” in Hungary, Lithuania, Romania, and Latvia. So far, Neanderthal and Denisovan genes (carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe) have been related to much worse outcomes with SARS-CoV2 infection.
    And would anyone be surprised if the CIA had scientists unleashing Russian/ Slavic-specific bioweapons?

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  353. @michael888

    It seems some other scientists have noted the same and are looking for Russian genes associated with increased mortality in Russians and other Slavs:

    The cartographic analysis revealed that rs11385942 distribution follows the West Eurasian pattern: the marker is frequent among the populations of Europe, West Asia and South Asia but rare or absent in all other parts of the globe. Notably, the transition from high to low rs11385942 frequencies across Eurasia is not abrupt but follows the clinal variation pattern instead. The distribution of rs657152 is more homogeneous. The analysis of correlations between the frequencies of the studied markers and the epidemiological characteristics of COVID-19 in a population revealed that higher frequencies of both risk alleles correlated positively with mortality from this disease. For rs657152, the correlation was especially strong (r = 0.59, p = 0.02). These reasonable correlations were observed for the “Russian” dataset only: no such correlations were established for the “world” dataset. This could be attributed to the differences in methodology used to collect COVID-19 statistics in different countries.”

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