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President Trump and his Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told us the US had to assassinate Maj. Gen. Qassim Soleimani last week because he was planning “Imminent attacks” on US citizens. I don’t believe them.

Why not? Because Trump and the neocons – like Pompeo – have been lying about Iran for the past three years in an effort to whip up enough support for a US attack. From the phony justification to get out of the Iran nuclear deal, to blaming Yemen on Iran, to blaming Iran for an attack on Saudi oil facilities, the US Administration has fed us a steady stream of lies for three years because they are obsessed with Iran.

And before Trump’s obsession with attacking Iran, the past four US Administrations lied ceaselessly to bring about wars on Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Serbia, Somalia, and the list goes on.

At some point, when we’ve been lied to constantly and consistently for decades about a “threat” that we must “take out” with a military attack, there comes a time where we must assume they are lying until they provide rock solid, irrefutable proof. Thus far they have provided nothing. So I don’t believe them.

President Trump has warned that his administration has already targeted 52 sites important to Iran and Iranian culture and the US will attack them if Iran retaliates for the assassination of Gen. Soleimani. Because Iran has no capacity to attack the United States, Iran’s retaliation if it comes will likely come against US troops or US government officials stationed or visiting the Middle East. I have a very easy solution for President Trump that will save the lives of American servicemembers and other US officials: just come home. There is absolutely no reason for US troops to be stationed throughout the Middle East to face increased risk of death for nothing.

In our Ron Paul Liberty Report program last week we observed that the US attack on a senior Iranian military officer on Iraqi soil – over the objection of the Iraq government – would serve to finally unite the Iraqi factions against the United States. And so it has: on Sunday the Iraqi parliament voted to expel US troops from Iraqi soil. It may have been a non-binding resolution, but there is no mistaking the sentiment. US troops are not wanted and they are increasingly in danger. So why not listen to the Iraqi parliament?

Bring our troops home, close the US Embassy in Baghdad – a symbol of our aggression – and let the people of the Middle East solve their own problems. Maintain a strong defense to protect the United States, but end this neocon pipe-dream of ruling the world from the barrel of a gun. It does not work. It makes us poorer and more vulnerable to attack. It makes the elites of Washington rich while leaving working and middle class America with the bill. It engenders hatred and a desire for revenge among those who have fallen victim to US interventionist foreign policy. And it results in millions of innocents being killed overseas.

There is no benefit to the United States to trying to run the world. Such a foreign policy brings only bankruptcy – moral and financial. Tell Congress and the Administration that for America’s sake we demand the return of US troops from the Middle East!

(Republished from The Ron Paul Institute by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Dr. Paul, you may be preaching to the choir here on unz.com. However, most of the rest of the public is so attached to their idiot plates hanging up on their walls that they can’t see the forest for the trees. Though it was about the impeachment infotainment rather than the arcane details of which faction in the Middle East hates which other ones, and who should the US send borrowed money to, the Peak Stupidity post “Back Off!” comes to mind. Get away from the babbling TV set for a few weeks or a few months, and you’ll have a different perspective, such as, per Ron Paul here, what the hell is the American military doing over there, PERIOD?!

    While I’m at it, on this specific subject of Iran and the killing of General Qasem Soleimani, see “Death from Above, Assasinations, and Declaration of War”.

    • Agree: Gyre07
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Prester John
  2. anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    What makes you think he is “preaching to the choir”? Are you part of that “choir”? Really?! But, you are an Islamophobic mofer who I am sure orgasms simply watching AmeriKKKa’s necrophilia in the ME. Lowlifes like you are really not part of the “choir” you imply here.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  3. @anonymous

    Uhhh, no, that might be another Achmed E. Newman that you’re thinking of. I don’t want America to turn Islamic is all, and I don’t think Moslems assimilate worth a damn here, unless they only come in onesies and twoseis, like lots of strange foreigners did in the long ago past*. Whatever they want to do over there in Moslem country is just fine and dandy with me. I’ve got neither business or pleasure to conduct over there.

    I’ve been a L-voter since George Bush the elder made part of a campaign speech in Spanish in 1988, up until my vote for Trump in ’16.

    I think my opinion on the US military warmongering in ANY spot in the world that is not done in direct defense of America soil was solidified around ’03 to ’05. I was not writing on this blog then, so your assumption is way off, #217.

    .

    * Read up on the immigration act of 1924 sometime.

    • Replies: @anon
  4. anon[316] • Disclaimer says:

    Ron Paul has it right but I would go further and say that trump is not to be trusted on any issue; he is surrounded by zionists who do not believe truth is anything to be concerned about.

    As long as kushner, a 100% foreign agent, is anywhere near decision making, as he is now, we are in deep deep trouble!

    • Agree: Gyre07
  5. “And before Trump’s obsession with attacking Iran, the past four US Administrations lied ceaselessly to bring about wars on Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Serbia, Somalia, and the list goes on.”

    There are plenty reasons to hold Iran suspect – plenty. But you could have ended your comments there. It is not a lack of belief as something more fundamental for me. You have to do more than tell it. As with Afghanistan, Iraq. Syria, Yemen, Libya . . . you have got to put forward a case. A case that includes not only claims, but evidence and some coherent rationale.

    And that standard applies no matter who or what are serving as leaders. In fact, i wanted to believe the president in 2002 —- but when the case was made, the evidence and the rationale just did not make sense.

    I want to believe the executive i voted to put into the WH, but what has been put forward thus far is fairly weak tea. I consider Iran a serious problem in the region based on her agenda. Would that agenda include provoking the US,. inviting a response and decreasing the likelihood of her departure from the region — in light of Iran’s agendas – no. It does not make sense. But as it is entirely possible for me to wrong —– I would like the case put forward.

    Note: anyone who thinks that Iran is some innocent bystander — have a chat with the marines from Fallujah. If there was ever a time to invade Iran for cause, it was Iranians killing US service members in Iraq during the invasion and occupation.

    • Replies: @Gyre07
    , @Stavros
    , @Rusty nail
  6. KenH says:

    I can’t remember where I read it today but this whole thing started with the alleged killing of an American contractor and the alleged wounding of several U.S. military personnel. The article rightly asks why the contractor’s name hasn’t been disclosed and if he was a mercenary? We still know nothing about this contractor giving rise to suspicion that this event may not have happened or if it did it’s possible that the culprits are ISIS aligned guerillas and not Hezbollah or Iran aligned groups.

    The claim that Soleimani’s real reason for coming to Iraq (on a commercial flight no less) was to plan attacks on U.S. soldiers seems just a little too good to be true since it conveniently meets the “imminent threat” threshold for a president to act unilaterally. On Saturday the Trump admin said he was killed in retaliation for the death of the contractor (who they refuse to name) and wounding of several American servicemen then a day later he was killed because he was allegedly planning more attacks on U.S. servicemen. The story continues to change.

    So yes, given the story changes the default belief should be that Trump, Pompeo, et.al, are lying and murdered Soleimani in an attempt to goad Iran into retaliating which would then give them the casus belli for war that they’ve been craving. However, they need to make Iran look like the instigator so we flyover rubes will get on board and wave the flag and ask no questions.

  7. “There is no benefit to the United States to trying to run the world. Such a foreign policy brings only bankruptcy – moral and financial. ”
    Yes, correct. But — with the conditional [no benefit] “in the medium & long term”.
    The US wants to control (& if possible, exploit) the resources of the M. E. Such control has many benefits (see Dr Hudson’s latest article here on Unz, for details). Briefly –control the energy tap, control a nation.
    Control the world’s reserve currency, control much of the world. Independent actors, such as Iran Libyia, Syria, Russia, China undermine this financial control.
    And whose the relatively weakest (undestroyed) country in the above? Iran?
    (I don’t refer to Israel — we all know who they hate the most from the above….)
    The problem, as Pat knows, is that short term criminal… evil behaviour is to the long term detriment to the US.

    • Replies: @mark green
  8. “Trusting Trump” reminds me of Richard Pryor’s comedy routine about being in court bent over with his trousers down and imploring the judge, “just don’t stick it in too far, your honor!” Ouch.

  9. @animalogic

    Allow me to respectfully dissent from the widely-held view that US interventions in the ME are dictated by oil insecurities and American avarice vis-a-vis this commodity. This claim was made prior to the Zio-American war on Saddam’s Iraq. There’s little evidence to support it.

    Do you have any data on the amount of oil ‘stolen’ or exploited by American concerns in Iraq since 2003? According to the evidence I’ve seen, most of the Iraqi oil extracted and put on the world market following America’s trillion dollar annihilation of Iraq has been done (primarily) by Russian and Chinese concerns. Untold millions of barrels of Iraqi oil has also been stolen by ISIS, various jihadists, and Kurdish separatists.

    Additionally, the US is now energy independent. We actually export oil. The price of oil has also dropped by over 40% since the US launched its initial assault on Iraq over 15 years ago.

    If the US is willing to waste trillions of tax dollars on distant ‘oil wars’ in order to steal relatively small amounts of oil which could otherwise be legally purchased, this scheme is pure idiocy.

    I remain convinced that strengthening Israel’s long-term strategic position in that region is the key factor driving most US Mideast policies.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  10. anon[145] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Who cares what you wants from Muslim or what you don’t,Ike about them . Let me tell you one thing ,if Muslims decide not to assimilate with you ,accept culture of fucking pornography,abortion,usuary ,signing up for military for wars ,drinking and passing out,sex with five different persons in a week to find right mate,going out at 1 am in bikini to a bar ,it’s fine with me and scores of Americans and it’s their business,
    They can live anywhere they like as long as they are legal or born legally on the land . Just like your. Don’t try to claim more just because of generational factors. Like your grand parents coming here century ago. It doesn’t count . Will not count. Will not be allowed to count.
    and don’t make it your business to alter the arrangements. Failures can be unpalatable psychologically and physically.

    You want to get rid of them? May be they should get rid of your type.

    Free market and democracy – that’s human nature . Tell your voter friends not to elect monsters who go out and rig other countries elections and then put monsters like Thatchi of Kosovo and MsB of Saudi or Suharto of Indonesia.

    • LOL: Jim bob Lassiter
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  11. Anonymous[193] • Disclaimer says:
    @mark green

    Well said.

    The oil justification simply doesn’t add up. What does is a planned, systematic destruction and fragmentation of Israel’s perceived enemies.

    • Agree: mark green
  12. @anon

    Revoking citizenship is a drastic step that I am not advocating. I’d rather not let too many more in. The Moslems have got a big chunk of the world and mostly made a mess of it. We don’t need that shit. Also, are you under some impression that the Sharia crowd will vote for the free markets and due process? Haha, are you in for a surprise!

    My friends are not of the culture you describe (not sure where you hang out, but …), and they are not the ones running the US Feral Government from behind the scenes.

    As for the rest of your rant, why don’t you sleep it off, #145, because you come across as a Reason magazine-style idiot who’s had one too many malt liquors.

    • Replies: @Gyre07
  13. Gyre07 says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Iran’s agenda is simple. The US and NATO should leave Iran the fuck alone, and their allies to the west of them. They haven’t done a single thing aggressive towards the US other than try to help their neighbors oust the illegal American occupiers and their allies. But I do understand that Republican neocons have had it in for Iran ever since they ousted their western puppet (The Shah).

  14. Gyre07 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The Moslems have made a mess out of their countries? I’d say you’re engaging in classic misdirection (ala Hillary-style) and blaming them for what the US and NATO continue to do. We’ve staged a coup in Iran, invaded and pretty much destroyed Iraq based on a whole set of American lies, tried to overthrow another elected leader in Syria, etc.. Tell me, what national security interest of America’s are we trying to maintain by tacitly declaring war on countries all over the middle-east?

  15. @Gyre07

    You tell me, why do you people keep arguing with the wrong guy? I don’t think the US has any business doing anything but defending against direct threats to the US. I think NATO should have been disbanded in 1990.

    The Moslems have made messes out of their countries centuries ago, nothing to do with the West. You are right that some of those ME countries, under Saddam, Kuddaffi, and whomever would have been better off than today after the Neocons got their way. They’ve almost all been shitholes for a long time, but that’s not my business or that of the United States.

    All that said, no, I’d rather have zero additional Moslem immigration, but I could say that about most other peoples and countries too. It’s time for a moratorium for 50 years, at least! See Peak Stupidity on “Immigration invasion, assimilation, and refugees”, read ANY of the articles here, or simply search up the phrase “invade-the-world/invite-the-world” & “Steve Sailer”.

  16. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ooops, first of all, I already had included that link in my 1st comment, Sorry about that, Gyre. Also, I see you seem to have agreed with what I wrote at first, so sorry about this comment I’m replying to (way past the editing stage).

  17. Ron Paul is wise to warn against the quagmire of “US interventionist foreign policy” and demand “a strong defense to protect the United States”. It is important for a nation to define what its core interests are and find ways of preventing them clashing with the core interests of other nations.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @Prester John
  18. anastasia says:

    Why would anyone believe anything they say in Washington. They have been caught in so many lies about these foreign wars, it evinces nothing more than our government’s complete contempt for the American people.

    They put up polls of people supporting these contemptible and insane actions by our government. I don’t believe these polls either. What can the American people be other than completely disgusted.

    Assassination of a General of the Iranian State – bombing of cultural sites?

    Can it be any clearer that our government is completely barbaric. What scares me is that people do not even notice the clear barbarism of these acts. It is not as if our government never did them before, but they used to try to hide and conceal them. At least hypocrisy pays homage to the truth. Now, they brag about doing heinous acts. What is to become of this kind of civilization?

  19. anastasia says:

    And I don’t believe what they are saying about Soleimani. Don’t believe it.

  20. I have not believed ANY of their bullshit since serving under Johnson in the mid sixties.

  21. Stavros says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Perhaps if the US had not invaded Iraq on a bullshit, trumped up excuse, which has subsequently been proven to be nothing but a series of blatant lies, your precious service personel wouldn’t have been killed?

  22. @EliteCommInc.

    Note: anyone who thinks that Iran is some innocent bystander — have a chat with the marines from Fallujah. If there was ever a time to invade Iran for cause, it was Iranians killing US service members in Iraq during the invasion and occupation.

    Said with not even a hint of irony.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  23. @Rusty nail

    A war in Iran would bankrupt the US. The US has not successfully invaded any country. It is still coping with Iraq. Seventeen years later.

    The US is already half-bankrupted from 20 years of war. Homeless camp on main streets. People take dumps on the sidewalk. Bridges collapse. Poverty is everywhere.

    Iran would send the US into such a toilet bowl that Americans would be sneaking into Mexico illegally.

  24. @Achmed E. Newman

    Apropos of iSteve’s comment made elsewhere, I never heard of this Soleimani dude before either. Supposedly this was retaliation for the death of some mystery American “contractor” and previous attacks on American military personnel in Iraq at the hands of the Persians. Questions for the house: What are American “contractors” doing in Iraq anyway? And more importantly, why are American troops in Iraq in the first place? According to Trump this Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks.” Really? Where’s the proof?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  25. @peter mcloughlin

    “It is important for a nation to define what its core interests are and find ways of preventing them clashing with the core interests of other nations.”

    A simple and enduring principle to which this country rarely adheres.

  26. @Prester John

    What are American “contractors” doing in Iraq anyway? And more importantly, why are American troops in Iraq in the first place?

    Exactly my point, Prester. I agree with my own interpretation of Steve Sailer’s one line post that you refer to. Why should I have known anything about this guy? It’s not like we are officially AT WAR or anything.

    According to Trump this Soleimani was planning “imminent attacks.” Really? Where’s the proof?

    Again, if this were a declared war with the American people behind it (no matter how wrong it is), then one could say that any 3rd party killing our soldiers, contractors, what-have-you must be dealt with as in war. Did anyone say Mr. Soleimani was planning attacks on American soil? Iraq is not American soil, not matter how many soldiers reside there.

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