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Paul Craig Roberts’ Interview with the European magazine Zur Zeit (In This Time):

https://zurzeit.at/index.php/die-demokraten-haben-die-praesidentenwahl-gestohlen/

English Translation:

A few months ago it looked like the re-election of Trump was almost certain, but now there was a close race between Trump and Biden? What happen during the last months?

In the months before the election, the Democrats used the “Covid pandemic” to put in place voting by mail. The argument was used that people who safely go to supermarkets and restaurants could catch Covid if they stood in voting lines. Never before used on a large scale, voting by mail is subject to massive vote fraud.

There are many credible reports of organized vote fraud committed by Democrats. The only question is whether the Republican establishment will support challenging the documented fraud or whether Trump will be pressured to concede in order to protect the reputation of American Democracy.

For those influenced by a partisan media that is denying the massive fraud that occurred, here is an overview of the elements of the fraud and the legal remedies. https://www.unz.com/article/of-color-revolutions-foreign-and-domestic-the-first-72-hours/

It is difficult to know or to ensure that the ballots are actual ballots from registered voters. For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump’s lead. State officials have reported that people not registered—probably illegals—were permitted to vote. Postal service workers have reported being ordered to backdate ballots that suddenly appeared in the middle of the night after the deadline. These techniques were used to erase Trump’s substantial leads in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.

Digital technology has also made it easy to alter vote counts. US Air Force General Thomas McInerney is familiar with this technology. He says it was developed by the National Security Agency in order to interfere in foreign elections, but now is in the hands of the CIA and was used to defeat Trump. Trump is considered to be an enemy of the military/security complex because of his wish to normalize relations with Russia, thus taking away the enemy that justifies the CIA’s budget and power.

People do not understand. They think an election has been held when in fact what has occurred is that massive vote fraud has been used to effect a revolution against red state white America. Leaders of the revolution, such as Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are demanding a list of Trump supporters who are “to be held accountable.” Calls are being made for the arrest of Tucker Carlson, the only mainstream journalist who supported President Trump.

In a recent column I wrote:

“Think what it means that the entirety of the US media, allegedly the ‘watchdogs of democracy,’ are openly involved in participating in the theft of a presidential election.

“Think what it means that a large number of Democrat public and election officials are openly involved in the theft of a presidential election.

“It means that the United States is split irredeemably. The hatred for white people that has been cultivated for many years, portraying white Americans as “systemic racists,” together with the Democrats’ lust for power and money, has destroyed national unity. The consequence will be the replacement of rules with force.”

Mainstream media in Europe claim, that Trump had “divided” the United States. But isn`t it actually the other way around, that his opponents have divided the country?

As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice— the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies. Russiagate was a CIA/FBI successful effort to block Trump from reducing tensions with Russia. In 1961 in his last address to the American people President Dwight Eisenhower warned that the growing power of the military/industrial complex was a threat to American democracy. We ignored his warning and now have security agencies more powerful than the President.

The military/security complex favors the disunity that the Democrat Party and media have fostered with their ideology of Identity Politics. Identity politics replaced Marxist class war with race and gender war. White people, and especially white heterosexual males, are the new oppressor class. This ideology causes race and gender disunity and prevents any unified opposition to the security agencies ability to impose its agendas by controlling explanations. Opposition to Trump cemented the alliance between Democrats, media, and the Deep State.

It is possible that the courts will decide who will be sworn into office at January 20, 2021. Do you except a phase of uncertainty or even a constitutional crisis?

There is no doubt that numerous irregularities indicate that the election was stolen and that the ground was well laid in advance. Trump intends to challenge the obvious theft. However, his challenges will be rejected in Democrat ruled states, as they were part of the theft and will not indict themselves. This means Trump and his attorneys will have to have constitutional grounds for taking their cases to the federal Supreme Court. The Republicans have a majority on the Court, but the Court is not always partisan.

Republicans tend to be more patriotic than Democrats, who denounce America as racist, fascist, sexist, imperialist. This patriotism makes Republicans impotent when it comes to political warfare that could adversely affect America’s reputation. The inclination of Republicans is for Trump to protect America’s reputation by conceding the election. Republicans fear the impact on America’s reputation of having it revealed that America’s other major party plotted to steal a presidental election.

Red state Americans, on the other hand, have no such fear. They understand that they are the targets of the Democrats, having been defined by Democrats as “racist white supremacist Trump deplorables.”

The introduction of a report of the Heritage Foundation states that “the United States has a long and unfortunate history of election fraud”. Are the 2020 presidential elections another inglorious chapter in this long history?

This time the fraud is not local as in the past. It is the result of a well organized national effort to get rid of a president that the Establishment does not accept.

Somehow you get the impression that in the USA – as in many European countries democracy is just a facade – or am I wrong?

ORDER IT NOW

You are correct. Trump is the first non-establishment president who became President without being vetted by the Establishment since Ronald Reagan. Trump was able to be elected only because the Establishment thought he had no chance and took no measures to prevent his election. A number of studies have concluded that in the US the people, despite democracy and voting, have zero input into public policy.

Democracy cannot work in America because the money of the elite prevails. American democracy is organized in order to prevent the people from having a voice. A political campaign is expensive. The money for candidates comes from interest groups, such as defense contractors, Wall Street, the pharmaceutical industry, the Israel Lobby. Consequently, the winning candidate is indebted to his funders, and these are the people whom he serves.

European mainstream media are portraying Biden as a luminous figure. Should Biden become president, what can be expected in terms of foreign and security policy, especially in regard to China, Russia and the Middle East? I mean, the deep state and the military-industrial complex remain surely nearly unchanged.

Biden will be a puppet, one unlikely to be long in office. His obvious mental confusion will be used either to rule through him or to remove him on grounds of mental incompetence. No one wants the nuclear button in the hands of a president who doesn’t know which day of the week it is or where he is.

The military/security complex needs enemies for its power and profit and will be certain to retain the list of desirable foreign enemies—Russia, Iran, China, and any independent-inclined country in Latin America. Being at war is also a way of distracting the people of the war against their liberties.

What the military/security complex might not appreciate is that among its Democrat allies there are some, such as Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who are ideological revolutionaries. Having demonized red state America and got rid of Trump (assuming the electoral fraud is not overturned by the courts), Ocasio-Cortez and her allies intend to revolutionize the Democrat Party and make it a non-establishment force. In her mind white people are the Establishment, which we already see from her demands for a list of Trump supporters to be punished.

I think I’m not wrong in assuming that a Biden-presidency would mean more identity politics, more political correctness etc. for the USA. How do you see this?

Identity politics turns races and genders against one another. As white people—“systemic racists”—are defined as the oppressor class, white people are not protected from hate speech and hate crimes. Anything can be said or done to a white American and it is not considered politically incorrect.

With Trump and his supporters demonized, under Democrat rule the transition of white Americans into second or third class citizens will be completed.

How do you access Trump’s first term in office? Where was he successful and where he failed?

Trump spent his entire term in office fighting off fake accusations—Russiagate, Impeachgate, failure to bomb Russia for paying Taliban to kill American occupiers of Afghanistan, causing Covid by not wearing a mask, and so on and on.

That Trump survived all the false charges shows that he is a real person, a powerful character. Who else could have survived what Trump has been subjected to by the Establishment and their media prostitutes. In the United States the media is known as “presstitutes”—press prostitutes. That is what Udo Ulfkotte says they are in Europe. As a former Wall Street Journal editor, I say with complete confidence that there is no one in the American media today I would have hired. The total absence of integrity in the Western media is sufficient indication that the West is doomed.

(Republished from PaulCraigRoberts.org by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Notsofast says:

    Eisenhower warned us on the way out the door. If a sitting president couldn’t do anything about it in 1961 how can we do anything about it today?

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @endthefed
    , @Anon
    , @anon
    , @Fritz
  2. Never before used on a large scale, voting by mail is subject to massive vote fraud.

    I would take it a little further and say that voting by mail is a method of vote fraud. The supposed safeguards are easily circumvented, as some whistleblowers have illustrated with ballots being brought forth in large numbers after election day without postmarks and postal workers being ordered to stamp them with acceptable postmarks.

    It really seems to me that there would be no democrat majorities in Congress or in so many state legislatures without vote fraud.

    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
    , @DanFromCT
    , @Wally
  3. So fraud is needed to protect the reputation of American democracy. Only fraud can! Thanks, PCR!

    • LOL: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Abbybwood
    , @TRM
  4. endthefed says:
    @Notsofast

    Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate.

  5. KenH says:

    This is a tough call for me. In one sense I want Trump to win to stick to the media and radical left. I was hoping a re-election might result in mass suicide of loony leftists.

    But in another sense I don’t care because had Trump won (and I supposed he still could although the probability is low) that would have vindicated the Kushner plan of race pandering and offering a platinum plan for blacks and an American dream plan for hispanics while his loyal white voters get nothing but salty tweets and dog whistles at rallies.

    I still believe that roughly 3-4% of the white vote he lost was critical and those are probably the people he alienated with his endless bragging about low black, hispanic, female and handicapped lesbian unemployment rates and general pandering. Bragging about letting black felons out of prison and vowing to let even more out didn’t help either.

    It seems a great majority of the voter fraud centers around heavily black cities like Detroit, Atlanta, Philly and Milwaukee. Promises of a platinum plan didn’t persuade negro vote fraudsters to fill out many thousands of ballots for Donald Trump only (down down ballot candidates) instead of Joe Biden.

    Trump and the Republicucks believed they would get 30% of the black vote yet they only received about 12% overall which was an increase from the 8% he got in 2016. But again that was more than offset by losing 3-4% of whites so he lost far more than he gained but Republican strategists will never learn and refuse to see what is right in front of their faces.

  6. MarkinLA says:

    Worse than the fraud available with vote by mail is the voting of people normally who don’t bother to vote. Think of how stupid and uninformed that average American voter is. Now realize how much more stupid and uninformed the non-voter is, only now he votes.

    However, the most likely source of fraud that is hard to detect, is ballot harvesting. This should be outlawed as it violates the idea of a secret ballot. Somebody comes to the home of a disinterested voter and makes sure he votes (of course they will never admit to hounding the person) and “helps” them with the ballot. If the voter cannot be cajoled into voting the correct way, you merely throw his ballot in the trash.

    • Agree: Ivan
    • Replies: @Wally
  7. I have little doubt that there have been massive “irregularities”, particularly in the so-called battleground states, that are at play in “stealing” the election.
    That said, it is important to understand the weasel words used by the media. Think back to Bill Clinton’s blowjob. In strict terms, he “did not have sexual intercourse with that woman.” Blowjobs are neither sexual intercourse, nor “sex” they were unnatural acts/sodomy.
    The favourite phrase these days is “no evidence of wide spread voter fraud”. Let’s break that down. Only 6 states have been challenged for vote fraud. In the big scheme of things, 6 states is not wide spread, even if there is massive vote fraud within those 6 states. That the vote fraud is not widespread, implies that some vote fraud is acceptable, and that the listener should ignore it. Last and most importantly, in the narrowest of legalistic terms, testimony or affidavits are not evidence. Testimony and affidavits become evidence when supported by physical evidence. An affidavit with a photograph demonstrating the statement would be evidence.
    Another phrase is something like “election officials say they have seen no evidence of voter fraud”. I have yet to hear a reporter challenge the “seen no evidence of …” part of the statement, regardless of the subject, by asking if the speaker had looked for any evidence. They won’t, because they know damn well no one has.
    That is how the liars operate. Not so different from Rumsfeld’s “plausible deniability”.

  8. Living in an urban setting I often had to visit apartment buildings. Without fail, there was always a pile of undeliverable mail in the lobby under the mailboxes.

    The envelopes were mostly addressed to people who had moved out or died. If ballots were sent to these people based on incorrect voter rolls, then these too would likely have been left sitting on the floor or on a ledge for anyone to take.

    It doesn’t take a leap of faith to know what a Trump-hating leftist would do when no one is looking. This moral hazard was intentionally created by Dems, who know that urban dwellers are transient and lean left politically.

    • Replies: @Begemot
    , @The Real World
  9. @endthefed

    He was a good President. He didn’t start any wars that I can think of and told the Brits and Israelis to stop when they tried to grab the Suez Canal. The last President to stand up to Israel unless you count Bush 1’s loan guarantee refusal, which was nice but not really in the same class.

  10. Franz says:
    @endthefed

    Eisenhower is always lauded for his MIC warning. Frankly he ticks me off. Thanks for the warning AFTER you were in some position to mitigate.

    Ike’s a mystery. Why did he NOT question Harry Truman’s commitments to NATO, the UN, and all that rubbish? Ike was a WWII guy. He knew Americans hated the UN in 1953 as much as they hated the League of Nations after WWI. But he let it all slide and get bigger.

    His farewell address was just flapdoodle; it wasn’t really dredged up till the 70s. Eisenhower spent eight years spreading tripwires and mines and then said “Watch out.” Thanks buddy.

  11. endthefed says:
    @Bragadocious

    Well, agree on your points however, on the other side of the ledger, he never understood the stupidity of the Korean war (that he could have ended) and majorly up-ramped CIA activities in all manner of regime change (bay of pigs anyone?). Almost a direct path to our foreign policy now (and now domestic policy)

  12. Notsofast says:
    @Bragadocious

    He did deploy the military assistance advisory group to vietnam in 1955. This is concidered the beginning of u.s. involvment in the war. This allowed the french to moonwalk out the back door leaving us holding the bag. In fairness this was johnsons war however. Eisenhower did cut the military budget as a peace dividend to fund interstate system and other domestic projects. In today political spectrum he would be concidered a flaming liberal.

    • Replies: @Anon
  13. Begemot says:
    @Beavertales

    Or a visiting Trump lover could have absconded with the ballots when no one was looking and committed voter fraud on behalf of his favored candidate. Not saying it happened, but it is another possibility.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
    , @Rogue
  14. @KenH

    Thank you! You expressed my feelings exactly in a very succinct way!

    • Replies: @map
  15. @Twodees Partain

    They’ve been stealing elections for years, restoration of the Republic requires a complete purge of that faction. It will require a lot more than that, no doubt, but the party we today call “Democrat” has no right to sit in legislative chambers or in office.

  16. Very amusing article. I love dry humor. Thanks PCR.

    • Replies: @Reger
  17. Svigor says:

    I always want to call PCR’s contempt for debate and free speech “unamerican,” but I don’t think any of us is naive enough to believe that bullshit anymore.

    PCR: as American as apple pie.

    • Agree: profnasty
    • Troll: GazaPlanet
  18. Hi PCR

    As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice— the voice of the CIA. The very profitable and powerful US military/security complex needs foreign enemies.

    What intrigues me is the ultimate political goal of the UN and the WEF when they anticipate a single global government centred at the UN and the absence of nation-states.

    So what is the MIC going to do when there are no existential threats of competing nation-states? Or will the MIC re-engineer religious wars between the various religious groups, secular and theological? It seems the aspirations of the WEF and its fellow travellers preclude the occurrence of future armed conflicts.

    Of course one needs capitalistic economies to produce the ordnance and materiels for the engineered social factions to war with each other. Yet if the Greens have their way, there will be no mining period.

    More likely is the possibility that none of them actually understand what they are doing. As Nassim Taleb is alleged to have remarked, 99% of humans are stupid.

  19. anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:

    The total absence of integrity in the Western media is sufficient indication that the West is doomed.

    It’s because Western media is completely under the control of Jews, the world’s foremost End Justifies Means people. The Fourth Estate has become the world’s most powerful Bully Pulpit. There are still a few good ones though, brave souls they are: Kim Strassel of WSJ, Daniel Larison of The American Conservative, Neil Munro of Breitbart.

    The rest are more or less lying scums, including everyone on NYTimes, WSJ, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, Fox News (minus Tucker Carlson and Maria Bartiromo), The Economist, and let’s not forget the new media: Google, Facebook, Twitter. The world would be a much better place without any of them.

    • Thanks: mark green
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  20. Charles says:

    It is repeated often (here at the U.R.), but the US is not the same nation, in any sense except name, as the one which helped win world wars I and II. The choice for genuine Americans is stark: retreat and certainly be destroyed or become engaged in rebellion and possibly win, which would include keeping possession of the physical historical documents like the Declaration and the Constitution. I’d say it’s a coin-flip as to which will occur.

  21. @Beavertales

    What you’re pointing out is small fry compared to the BIG stealing which is highly organized. The largest scamming is likely electronic — with either vote flipping on machines or having the totals that paper ballot scanners tabulate adjust via a pre-programmed algorithm. Many elections have already been stolen this way.

    But, in the vein of what you mention is this fascinating article. I urge everyone to read it. He spills the beans in detail. https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

    Imagine hundreds of those people around the country over decades. There must be scads of illegitimate office holders all over. It’s horrendous…

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @TheTrumanShow
  22. @KenH

    I feel the exact same way. Trump would tout his diversity pandering as what carried him to victory while ignoring his white base who flipped for him in the first place.

    Then again, with Trump losing the Lincoln Project types will delusionally declare that he lost for being an evil racist nazi and that the post-2012 strategy of pandering to nonwhites is the future because they can’t conceive of a regime that actually curtains immigration. Presumably hispanics voted for him more in 2020 because he was (perceived to be) opposed to BLM with it’s black exceptionalism and anointing as Chieftains of the Oppressed, but the GOPe will see the Kushner plan as the way forward regardless and continue to ignore, marginalize, and outright repress the white voters who delivered them victory so many times over. They seemed terrified of acknowledging that bumping the white vote over 60% would probably net them electoral landslides until 2032 at least.

    • Agree: Etruscan Film Star
  23. Alfred says:

    Nancy Pelosi claims that Biden’s victory gives the Democrats a “MANDATE” to alter the economy as they see fit with 50.5%. This proves that Biden will NOT represent everyone – only the left! I have warned that this has been their agenda from day one. Now, three whistleblowers from the Democratic software company Dominion Voting Systems, alleging that the company’s software stole 38 million votes from Trump. There are people claiming that Dominion Voting Systems is linked to Soros, Dianae Finesteing, Clintons, and Pelosi’s husband. I cannot verify any of these allegations so far.

    We are at the Rubicon. Civil War is on the other side. There should NEVER be this type of drastic change to the economy from Capitalism to Marxism on 50.5% of the popular vote. NOBODY should be able to restructure the government and the economy on less than 2/3rds of the majority. That would be a mandate. Trying to change everything with a claim of 50.5% of the vote will only signal, like the Dread Scot decision, that there is no solution by rule of law. This is the end of civilization and it will turn ugly from here because there is no middle ground anymore. As I have warned, historically the left will never tolerate opposition.

    Democrats Claim Mandate to Alter the Economy & 3 Whistleblowers from Software Company Allege they stole 38 million votes from Trump | Armstrong Economics

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Olivier1973
    , @Mark T
  24. DEMOCRATS TURN MENACING AS FRAUD FALLS APART


  25. Yes, the theft is blatant. But what are you, us, going to do about it?

    We really can’t do much as the Office of the President Elect requires us to wear masks. For our safety.

  26. @Curmudgeon

    “in the narrowest of legalistic terms, testimony or affidavits are not evidence. Testimony and affidavits become evidence when supported by physical evidence. ” Correct – but they also can become evidence by verbal testimony. ie “I saw the defendant hit the victim with a rock”

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Stan d Mute
  27. Frankie P says:

    “As the German newspaper editor Udo Ulfkotte revealed in his book, Bought Journalism, the European and US media speak with one voice— the voice of the CIA.”

    He’s German, and they’re not allowed to tell the truth, so he got the letters wrong.
    Let me help him:

    “the European and US media speak with one voice— the voice of the J-E-W.”

    • Agree: Gidoutahere
    • Replies: @Gidoutahere
  28. Anon[115] • Disclaimer says:

    Not only have they stolen the election but when Joe Biden and other democrats claim that President Trump caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans because of his handling of Covid 19, they are in sane. No world leader could stop the spread of this respiratory virus. However, Joe Biden and democrats have caused the deaths of hundreds of white people, while whipping up weak minded people to kill many whites. Biden and the democrats are criminals. Any one who is white, man or woman, that supports the democratic party is enabling a criminal organization to perpetrate violence on white people, including murder.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  29. Since the article was from a German magazine it’s understandable that there is no mention of “the one who shall not be named”. No mention of the people behind the Lawfare group, the same people behind the impeachment, the same people providing financial and ideological support for the BLM/Antifa, the same people that own the media that spewed lies for 5 years and censored any mention of the Biden family corruption, no mention of the people behind this Color Revolution, the same people who promoted the mail in voting and those that managed the narrative for the media on election night to stop Trump’s momentum.

    For the public consumption the election will be described in vague terms, like this article, blaming special interests and institutions like the FBI, CIA and MIC without naming names as if an institution, not the oligarchs and chosen pulling the strings, are somehow Marxist, anti-white or anti-Christian.

  30. The interviewer quotes the Heritage Foundation does anyone even care what they say? The English Tavistock Institute by way of the CIA which the British molded from the OSS created programs for the Heritage Foundation as well as the Hoover Institute, MIT, Stanford University, Wharton, Rand etc. These “rightwing think tanks” were created to counter the CIA’s “leftwing think tanks” at Columbia, Berkeley etc. Thank you British Intelligence.

  31. Thomasina says:

    Steve Bannon was just interviewing someone (can’t remember his name). Apparently there are about 200 to 300 IT professionals/engineers working on these so-called “glitches” (not glitches at all) which mysteriously “disappeared” thousands of Trump votes. Then they’d dump phony Biden votes into the mix. These IT professionals are going to follow the trail.

    I’ve also heard that Dominion Voting Systems played a big part in this scam by using algorithms. One Trump lawyer said that big revelations are coming.

    We’re going to have to be patient and just wait.

    “The inclination of Republicans is for Trump to protect America’s reputation by conceding the election.”

    I honestly think it’s more like the old established Republicans (corporate bought) want Trump to lose because that is what their campaign donors want (Big Pharma, Wall Street, etc.) They are part of the elite, and the elite (both the Democrats AND Republicans) want Trump gone so they can continue their crony capitalist looting. They’ve got to appear like they’re behind Trump, but I don’t think they are. Of course, that’s not all Republican representatives.

    Sounds like they’ve been rigging elections for awhile now. I bet they just messed up with Hillary. I think that’s why she was so upset. She had it, but they screwed up and didn’t supply enough ballots.

  32. Biff says:

    My conclusion is:

    They are probably going to get away with it.

    My advice:

    Make them suffer.

    • Replies: @Realist
  33. sally says:
    @KenH

    i think a large block of the lost votes from voters who last time voted for Trump changed sides because Trump lied (many of those were white). Trump takes lightly in honesty and integrity what many take seriously (and on that note those people voted against Hillary, not for Trump). Trump fibbed while in office, often mislead his followers, but his real crime in ethics was lying to the voters during his first campaigns. Promised no wars, but then threatened the world with war.. kept the troops in foreign lands instead of bring our boys and girls home, letting the oil companies hire their own protection, and on the border he acted like a kid with a sucker.

    Trump’s failure to gain a landslide this round happened because Trump did not do what Trump said Trump was going to do. The frauds at elections are always inventive creative new ways to deceive.. first it was election machines, then mail in votes. next it will be magic carpet voting. But the votes don’t count, cause it is the electoral college that elects the President.

    Trump also lost a significant number who did not understand Trump was an Israeli at heart, they thought he was a uncoothed NYC red blooded American.

    As far as white, black or pokadot color or any of the religions ganging up against Trump I don’t think that happened, the fall out into statistically discoverable categories is just that, fall out, not those categories
    conspiring to vote or not vote one way or the other.

    • Disagree: TheTrumanShow
    • Thanks: Harold Smith
    • Troll: ploni almoni
  34. PCR seems to have trouble seeing a difference between the counting of perfectly proper votes which Pres Trump’s post office delivered late which may or may not be allowed by law which can be determined in court, and fraud like the dead voting or votes being forged.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Troll: ploni almoni
  35. Yet the author has provided zero evidence for his claims of fraud. Pointing to where or how fraud may occur does not constitute evidence. Yet all those who have commented here accept the authors claims.

    • Troll: ploni almoni
  36. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:

    The fraud is all so transparent but no one in the power elite seems to give a crap whether the public catches on or not these days. They know that the entire media which creates the false matrix of contrived “truth” that we all live in will back them to the hilt because they are actually just one more working part in the grand conspiracy. We all know that when “O’Brian” says 2 + 2 equals 5 we must all believe it, or at least say we do. We interface with “O’Brian’s” minions on a daily basis but we don’t know the ultimate identity of “O’Brian” (in the singular or multiple). Many guesses are made, but they hide that from us fairly well with the aid of their militaries and “intelligence” agencies (aka secret police in other times and places).

  37. Wally says:
    @MarkinLA

    In addition, The Supremes can’t dodge this one:

    Trump’s Pennsylvania complaint is brilliant
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/trumps_pennsylvania_complaint_is_brilliant.html

    “It was filed in federal court, not state. The gist is that some of the state’s actions, and particularly the exclusion of Republican poll-watchers during the counting of hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots, violated federal constitutional requirements.”

    plus:
    Analysis finds 353 counties in 29 states with voter registration over 100%:
    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/new-judicial-watch-analysis-finds-353-u-s-counties-in-29-states-with-voter-registration-exceeding-100/
    “This new study shows 1.8 million excess or ‘ghost’ voters in 353 counties across 29 states.”
    Data deep dive on Dominion Voting Systems offers incontrovertible proof of election hack: https://noqreport.com/2020/11/11/data-deep-dive-on-dominion-voting-systems-offers-incontrovertible-proof-of-election-hack/
    A sober look at verifiable irregularities, fraud, and Dominion Voting Systems…
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/09/on-electoral-fraud-in-2020/
    Why Did Six Battleground States with Democrat Governors (Except One) ALL Pause Counting on Election Night? And How Was This Coordinated?
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/six-battleground-states-democrat-governors-pause-counting-election-night-coordinated/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse, profnasty
  38. I am getting tired of reading this shit. Get over it!

    • LOL: Polemos
  39. @KenH

    “I still believe that roughly 3-4% of the white vote he lost was critical.”

    Trump did, as is widely propagandized, not “lose” the white/Republican vote; it was stolen from him and given to Biden by the ‘Dominion’ software.

    See
    “DR.SHIVA LIVE: MIT PHD ANALYSIS OF MICHIGAN VOTES REVEALS UNFORTUNATE TRUTH OF U.S. VOTING SYSTEMS”

    for an impartial analysis of how Trump “lost” white/Republican votes in Michigan — an consequently in all thirty some states that used the ‘Dominion’ software.


  40. map says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    Really? An anti-white Bolshevik Party cheated its way into office and you have mixed feelings about this because Trump wasn’t as sufficiently white as you desired?

    You understand that Democrats can flip votes electronically, literally moving Trump votes into the Biden category?

    Going forward, they don’t need Republicans. Frankly, neither do the 71 million REAL voters that voted for Trump. Concerns about the US “reputation” will not be an issue for them very soon.

    The Republicans have to prevent Biden from getting seated by denying cert on his electoral votes, or all of them will be out of a job come 2022. This forces a brokered convention and puts Trump back in office.

  41. Biff says:

    For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump’s lead.

    In a very similar vein, it is the same thing that happened to Bernie Sanders during the primary’s. Joe was down and out, and Bernie was enjoying the lead and then “Bam!” Overnight Joe is back on top.

    Well, fool me once,,,,,,….,and blah, blah whatever Bush said….

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
  42. dimples says:
    @Curmudgeon

    “Blowjobs are neither sexual intercourse, nor “sex” they were unnatural acts/sodomy.”

    Well that’s a rather odd way of looking at it. Personally I’d regard any fumbling with the genitals involving two or more persons as sex. Do you only get blowjobs from men??

    • LOL: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  43. @Stephen Allen

    Dr Roberts has referenced in the interview a UR article that goes into considerable detail about the massive electoral fraud by the Democrats and their partners. You’ve obviously not bothered to read it.
    You’re like one of those MSM hacks who denies electoral fraud without making any attempt to look at the evidence.

  44. TomGregg says:

    If a government achieves power illegitimately, why shouldn’t a parallel, alternative one, be created?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @sally
  45. S Martini says:

    Ironically, the claim of “mail vote massive fraud” is turning out to be as credible as
    Russiagate or the claim of Russians paying Taliban to kill Americans. Like the false accusations about Russia, delegitimizing the presidential election as fraud is turning out to be much ado about nothing.

    Simply, what is missing in the fraud election scenario is the EVIDENCE.

    Until an evidence of malfeasance is presented and deemed persuasive, it would be wise for president Trump to pass the baton and move on peacefully and gracefully.

    A smooth transition of the presidency would be a most enduring contribution to the cause of “protect[ing] the reputation of American Democracy.”

  46. @Begemot

    That’s a fair point. It’s just as likely that the amount of Red election shenanigans was considerable, yet insufficient to overcome the amount of Blue shenanigans.

    In any major election, the number of actual votes represents only a percentage of the vote counts. Even if it’s as high as 95% (only 500 inaccurately recorded votes out of every 10,000, which is probably pretty optimistic), that gives plenty of room for relatively small amounts of intentional manipulation, as well as normal human sloppiness, to change the outcome in a close race.

    And it’s almost always a closer race than anyone would have guessed beforehand — which I also find suspicious. How likely is it that the majority of presidential elections over the last century were decided by more or less even numbers of voters from each party, between more or less evenly matched candidates?

    Really seems like they’ve perfected the art of putting on rigged political shows that you can’t quite believe in, but don’t have anything really solid to back up your suspicions. It’s like the “no evidence of fraud” canard — anything solid enough to show obvious manipulation is explained away as the exception, rather than the tip of a very deep iceberg…

  47. @S Martini

    Like the false accusations about Russia, delegitimizing the presidential election as fraud is turning out to be much ado about nothing.

    Let’s review. The Democrats perpetrated the phony 2016 Russian influence fraud, and now the Democrats are perpetrating the phony 2020 election victory.

    The common elements are Democrats … perpetrate … fraud.

    Do try to keep up.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Troll: Corvinus
  48. Anon[449] • Disclaimer says:
    @Notsofast

    Would anyone have the quote or a link?

    • Replies: @TomGregg
  49. @TheTrumanShow

    Replying to a ‘Trump lost the white vote’ comment with some barely intelligible video of a Papeete ranting is peak cope.

    • Troll: Peripatetic Itch
  50. I was expecting better of Mr. Roberts. This article is pure BDS — Biden Derangement Syndrome.

    • Thanks: Tony Hall
  51. Drew says:

    A number of studies have concluded that in the US the people, despite democracy and voting, have zero input into public policy.

    Can you provide links to any of the studies? They sound interesting, and I’d like to share them with some people in my life.

    • Replies: @OutsideMan
  52. neutral says:

    Tell me how the worst election system in the world (name one that is run worse) can produce a good reputation for American Democracy? The system is joke, I have come across stories of dead people having voted, people that have voted multiple times, I can’t think of any other country that has such lax standards.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Realist
  53. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stephen Allen

    Yet the author has provided zero evidence for his claims of fraud. Pointing to where or how fraud may occur does not constitute evidence. Yet all those who have commented here accept the authors claims

    .

    Yet you, yourself, have provided zero evidence for your claims.

  54. Lee says:

    IMO this is a simple remedy to settle the election fraud mess or we will be arguing about this 20 years from now…….from the American Thinker.

    The candidates on the ballot must have an opportunity to have observers whom they choose to oversee the entire process so the candidates are satisfied that they won or lost a free and fair election.

    That is not what happened in the 2020 election. That is the single most important and simple fact that needs to be understood and communicated. The 2020 election was not a free and fair election, because poll-watchers were not allowed to do their essential job. The 2020 election can still be a free and fair election with a clear winner, whoever that may be, but time is running out.

    In every instance where poll-watchers were not allowed to observe the process, those votes must be recounted. They must be recounted with poll-watchers from both sides present. If there are votes that cannot be recounted because the envelops were discarded, those votes must be discarded. Put the blame for this on the officials who decided to count the votes in secret. Consider it a way to discourage secret vote counts in the future.

    The pandemic has not been fearful enough to close liquor stores, and it in should not be used as excuse to remove the poll-watchers who are essential to a free and fair election. If we must have social distancing, then use cameras.

    Certainly, there are other issues with the 2020 election. There may be problems with software, and there are issues like signature verification and dead people voting. Everything should be considered and examined, but no other issue should distract from the simple fact that both sides must be able to view the entire process. If one side is not allowed to view the vote-counting, then that side should be calling it a fraud. We should all be calling it a fraud.

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/the_simplest_most_important_issue_regarding_the_2020_election.html#ixzz6dfsChU00

    • Replies: @AReply
  55. Am I the only one who sees something profoundly spiritual happening in front of our eyes?
    We are witnessing much more than partisan rough and tumble and election fraud. I see a tear in the fabric of reality that creates unbridgeable division. My entire life I have not been religious but,
    “The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.
    For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.” –2Thessalonians.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  56. Rogue says:
    @Begemot

    Of course, but it’s the system that lends itself to corruption.

    I live in South Africa. Strictly speaking, it’s a 3rd world country, as most of the population is Black and poor.

    Nevertheless, if one votes in a general election, you have to produce legitimate ID, and also get an indelible ink mark on the fingernail that lasts a couple of weeks (so you can’t go back later and try to vote again).

    Now, there is definitely some voter fraud (actually, very possibly more than just some) in South Africa but, in theory at least, this is how the system works.

    Also, voting machines are simply not needed!

    Paper ballots and marking them in pencil at a voter booth is how it’s done in any sensible country.

    I lived in the UK for many years, and that’s the way they conduct voting in elections as well. It’s a simple system and is the least susceptible to fraud.

    • Agree: Plato's Dream
    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  57. Simple writing, simple logic. simple truth, simple absolute brilliance of PCR.

    • Agree: Ralph B. Seymour
  58. Rogue says:
    @Stephen Allen

    I know not whether fraud occurred.

    However, the system that has been implemented for this presidential election was obviously susceptible to fraud.

    And human nature being what it is, I’m definitely leaning in the skulduggery direction.

  59. DanFromCT says:
    @Twodees Partain

    You’re undoubtedly correct in saying that, but for election fraud, the Democrats couldn’t have carried a city decades ago, let alone a state. It should be obvious that the vote counting fraud is the norm in Democratic strongholds and has been for probably a century.

    The Left has been the aggressor all along to the point of inimicality between Left and Right so severe that the continued existence of one entails the annihilation of the other. Former slut dancer and prospective cabinet member Sandy Cortez has already let the cat out of the bag, demanding lists and dossiers be prepared for punishing Republicans who have supported the President of the United States, and the kosher media treat it as acceptable.

    At least we now see the veil has been pulled back from Fox News’ talking heads who, with the exception of Tucker Carlson, are among the most savage critics of the overwhelmingly persuasive evidence of Democratic voter fraud in a dozen different ways across all battleground states. They go further, however, and imply or outright state that reports of affidavits from Republicans of voter fraud are beneath airing on the grounds they do not constitute evidence of anything. Yet at the same time they claim that empty Democrat protestations that nothing irregular took place following cessation of the vote count to allow clandestine ballot dumps should be accepted at face value. In other words, Fox News is obviously guilty of an elaborate effort at concealment orchestrated with the rest of the kosher media that, as a matter of law, provides powerful, admissible, circumstantial evidence of their complicity and guilt to steal the election by the commission of fraud.

    Fox News’ talking heads, furthermore, have recently discovered a new standard of proof in legal matters known as “absolute certainty,” which as a practical matter, means that Fox News and its legal pundits will accept nothing short of written confessions from the Democrats as evidence of fraud. This newly discovered legal standard goes beyond “preponderance of the evidence” or even “guilt beyond a reasonable doubt” to establish absolute certainty as the standard. For example, while numerical quantification of the probability of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt–the highest standard of proof needed for a conviction–has been set at about 80% as a guideline, Fox News demands the impossible, which is equivalent to giving their permanent imprimatur to voting fraud and elections stolen on behalf of their masters in Israel and Langley.

    Even Ron Paul yesterday mentioned a standard of quantification of 90%, which despite his good intentions, is a virtually impossible standard of probability of guilt. All this needs to be straightened out and made clear in the minds of patriots, but at a minimum, one can say that Fox News, the neocons and RINOs, for all their talk about tradition, are throwing out at least a millennium’s worth of hard-won advances in arguing from less than certain evidence to the most probably conclusion, not only in law, but across the board, so great is the betrayal their sort would have us mistake for principle.

  60. Trickster says:

    I heard from a Venezuelan friend that several containers of these ballots were shipped to Venezuela on the orders of Maduro.

    Apparently they ended up at the Presidential Palace. High ranking officials (who wish to remain anonymous) have told the press Maduro and his inner circle prefer them to Charmaine double ply.

    Maybe he is sending a message to the US , drawing a line in the sand. OR OR maybe his usual breakfast of oats, prune juice and a chocolate milkshake demand a creative and out of the box solution.

    In any case it seems these paper products, like masks, have become popular in Latin America, a sphere where dodgy voting has always been encouraged by the Wizards of Washington. Shit always flows down but in an astounding reversal of gravity it seems it floated up………from the halls of South America to shores of the Potomac.

    Sleepy Joe was just Biden his time….no pun intended.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  61. @Supply and Demand

    I was expecting better of Mr. Roberts. This article is pure BDS — Biden Derangement Syndrome.

    Or alternatively, Trump Enslavement Syndrome.

    Trump had control of the Senate, the House and of course the Executive between his inauguration in January of 2017 and the Midterm Elections of 2018, a total time period of 1 year and 10 months. What did he do during this time? He deregulated financial services and passed corporate tax cuts.

    At the end of the day, being emotionally invested in US elections is no different to being emotionally invested in Keeping up with the Kardashians, that is to say your life wouldn’t be that different if your don’t follow either.

    • Agree: Supply and Demand
  62. Rogue says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Biden Derangement Syndrome

    Do you mean Biden Dementia Syndrome?

    That would be more accurate. Sleepy Joe (or Creepy Joe – take your pick) will be the Boris Yeltsin of the Oval office. At least with old Boris, it was too much vodka – and he could have quit the bottle.

    Sleepy Joe doesn’t have that option.

    • Agree: Alfred
  63. Realist says:

    The Democrats Have Stolen the Presidential Election

    The Deep State Has Stolen the Presidential Election.

    FIFY

    But they have been in control for decades…they just don’t care who knows now. They are taking final steps to make their control impervious to attack.

    • Agree: Chaco Cortes
  64. anon[434] • Disclaimer says:
    @Notsofast

    Eisenhower warned us on the way out the door

    I suggest using “conned” instread of “warned”.

    The big elephant in the Oval Office was and remains the spooks and the newly minted intelligence agencies. So “military-industrial-complex” is in fact an attempt to obfuscate and protect the actual elephant in the Oval Office: CIA.

    Trumman did speak up one month after JFK was killed by the unmentionable “I” of M.(I).I.C.

    https://archive.org/stream/LimitCIARoleToIntelligenceByHarrySTruman/Limit%20CIA%20Role%20To%20Intelligence%20by%20Harry%20S%20Truman_djvu.txt

    This is the reason that the establishment latched on to the Eisenhowerian bon mot but entirely memory hole Trumman’s far more explicit warning a freaking month after a sitting president is shot like a turkey in Dallas: it white washes CIA and NSC.

  65. Realist says:
    @Biff

    My advice:

    Make them suffer.

    How?

    • Agree: Chaco Cortes
  66. Realist says:
    @neutral

    The US is the most corrupt country on the face of earth.

    • LOL: Lee
  67. @KenH

    The main white demographic he lost were stupid white suburban women who didn’t find him nice and fluffy enough. Unlike that gentlemanly, polite Mr Biden… [insert sarcasm emoji here]

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
    , @Alden
  68. Why are CIA goons like Anderson Pooper serving as journalists? CIA is a criminal organization that subverts other nations.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Notsofast
  69. MLK says:

    The place to begin, and it’s mind-blowing when you think about it this way, is that nothing was resolved on election night. Not who will take the oath on January 20th. Nor which party will control the Senate. Nor even who will be Speaker and which party will control the House.

    Suffice it to say, a still raging factional struggle has simply moved to a greater degree behind the curtain.

    I noted this movie reference on another thread here:

    If your father dies, you’ll make the deal, Sonny.

    — “The Godfather”

    My point being, you’re foolish if you ascribe certainty as to outcome at this point.

    Being rid of Trump has been as close to a dues ex machina for the establishment as imaginable since he took the oath. This ineluctable observation elicits no end of foot-stomping by those who assume it necessarily says anything positive about the man.

    With every persistent revision of the script they wrote for him, all ending with his political demise at least, Trump has not just survived but grown stronger. While the Democrats turned our elections into something only seen in a third-world shit hole, Trump legitimately drew 71M votes from Americans.

    That’s a lot of air in the balloon. Believe me, filth like Russian mole Brennan may think everything is finished once they get rid of terrible, awful Trump, but those above his pay grade know better.

    Like him or hate him, Trump is the only principal not wholly or largely discredited. He was saved from destruction during his first term by the Republican base moving to protect him. That was the import of his 90-95% approval among them, destroy him and you destroy the Republican Party.

    Now, despite — or perhaps, because of — everything they’ve done, that base now includes a significant number of Democrats and independents. Trump is merely a vessel for an American majority attached to this constitutional republic thingie we’ve got going.

    Don’t get lost in the details. This isn’t a puzzle you can solve by internet sleuthing. The plan they executed — to steal sufficiently to make the outcome inevitable by the morning after the election at the latest — failed. This was evident early on Election Day (e.g. fake water main breaks in Atlanta) and necessitated their playing their Fox/AZ card and shutting down the count at least until they had removed Republican monitors.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @Wally
  70. @S Martini

    “Time to move on peacefully and gracefully”

    What you liberal idiots aparently do not realize is that we are enemies and we will not simply accept your criminal usurpation of the gov and “move on” . this is war and you started it.

    AJM

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  71. Anonymous[925] • Disclaimer says:
    @dimples

    Well that’s a rather odd way of looking at it. Personally I’d regard any fumbling with the genitals involving two or more persons as sex. Do you only get blowjobs from men??

    Is Man on Women anal sex somehow not sodomy in your book?

    • Replies: @MarkU
  72. @Wizard of Oz

    Totally amazing! An Unz Review first. The Wizard finally agreed with someone’s comment. His own.

    • LOL: Rogue, Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  73. @MLK

    What do you mean by “Russian mole Brennan”?

    • Replies: @MLK
  74. “The total absence of integrity in the Western media is sufficient indication that the West is doomed.”

    Notwithstanding your gloomy assessment, I must say that the West isn’t doomed because most of the White Christians are not without integrity… the question is, how to tackle the fifth columnists in the West?

  75. When the dust finally clears, whoever the winner is will not have a real mandate. This corrupt, syphilitic country is too divided to: “…come together and heal.” I for one do not take any of this that seriously any more. My honest, earned wealth has been forcibly confiscated by the Leviathan since I was 17 years old(I just turned 73). I watched Mayor Daily and the Cook County Democrat Machine steal the election from Nixon in 1960. So what else is new?
    Pedo Joe and The Call-Girl-In-Chief will ultimately prevail. When the National Mask Mandate kicks in, when gas is $6.00 per gallon, when the COVID-19 vaccine becomes mandatory for anyone wanting medical insurance, etc., etc.; maybe and just maybe the ignorant Great Unwashed will turn away from their bread and circuses and wake up. I will not hold my breath. Nothing will truly change until the massive “economic reset” happens. Until then stay liquid; stay gray; stay vigilant; and plan accordingly. Bleib ubrig, my friends.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  76. The margin of victory in about a dozen key electoral states is 1% or less. This hardly indicates “widespread voter fraud” what it indicates is a very close election. Look at Trump’s campaign from ‘16. It was all about bringing back the off-shored jobs, reversing the trade deficit, ending the regime change wars. His campaign in ‘20 barely mentioned these issues except in a braggadocio passing manner.

    If Trump had not been such a narcissist and braggart. If he had actually been able to lead a populist political movement he would have been elected in such a landslide the election wouldn’t have been close. Ultimately the winner of this election is the Establishment. Both populist figures (Sanders and Trump) from the two parties were sandbagged and would not or could not rally support from the populace. Rest assured, the material interests of the vast majority of working class people have not changed. There are still a majority of Americans living paycheck to paycheck. The much talked about ACA is a poor excuse for an actual National Health Care program. Medical bills are still the greatest cause for personal bankruptcies in the US. I know, I’m one of them. The populace is restive. The Establishment may have won the election but the country is already fundamentally ungovernable. It’s hard to imagine how any kind of meaningful reform is possible.

    • Troll: Tony Hall
    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  77. Say NO to Yinonism.

    We know what the Yinon Plan is.

  78. MLK says:
    @Greta Handel

    Just that, Brennan belongs to the Russians and God knows who else.

    I know that seems like something out of a movie but he joined the CIA after the 70s scandals when it was in the intelligence agency equivalent of the military’s “Stripes” period.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-cia/cia-boss-brennan-visited-moscow-in-early-march-interfax-idUSKCN0WU0S5

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  79. @Peripatetic Itch

    The “finally agreed” is, as you could easily confirm, not true. But I suppose you needed an excuse for showing that you were a clever boy who had noticed something trivial but odd. Indeed it is odd that I had to click on Agree because, to my great surprise I was recorded as having appended”Troll”. How it happened remains completely mysterious. I hadn’t sought to apply the Troll tag for weeks. I found that I couldn’t get rid of the tag by clicking Cancel so the next best choice was to amend to Agree.

    • Troll: Rurik
    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  80. Rooster10 says:
    @KenH

    The fact that he only lost 3-4% of the White vote is a feat in itself. There was another article I read that said many “on the fence” voters were voting for Biden just to make the non-stop MSM assault on Trump stop; they’re sick of the divisiveness, even though they don’t necessarily disagree with Trump.

    That raises a good question, when has there ever been a 24/7 unified propaganda assault on a US President by the MSM? The closest thing I can think of is GW Bush, but even then it was more light hearted and respectful. It’s also more than just the MSM news outlets, it permeates every aspect of our mainstream culture: tv shows, cartoons, movies, comedy shows, sports leagues, school systems, etc. Many people aren’t equipped to mentally handle this battle for your mind, and either tune out altogether or fold and go with the flow.

    Unfortunately there’s not enough sane Whites left to solely pander to, and win a national election; that’s just the reality of it. I don’t agree with discarding the White voters, but in order to win you need some minority support. If I have to choose between the candidate that panders for votes based on welfare incentives, versus the candidate that pitches a jobs program, I have to choose the latter.

    Either way, we’ve reached a tipping point. It’s time to start thinking of creating an entirely new White Ethno-State. Where and how we go about this, I don’t know.

  81. @Authenticjazzman

    What you liberal idiots aparently do not realize is that we are enemies and we will not simply accept your criminal usurpation of the gov and “move on” . this is war and you started it.

    You are too brain dead! Trump has not lost the election and he will be our President for the next 4 years, until 2024.

    To make you understand, I will quote below, Karl Rove’s quote and then paraphrase the same quote for your peewee brain.

    “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    And, to paraphrase

    “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own drama. And while you’re studying that drama — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new dramas, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re drama’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    BTW, you misspelled, “apparently”!

    Mohamed

  82. People need to stop falling for Republican bullshit.

    The Republicans control:

    1. The Senate

    2. The Supreme Court with a 6 to 3 majority.

    3. The majority of state governments by a huge margin:

    https://bannedhipster.home.blog/2020/11/12/bidens-first-cabinet-pick-israel-first-zionist-jew-ron-klain/

    “In 22 states, Republicans will hold unified control over the governor’s office and both houses of the legislature, giving the party wide political latitude — including in states like Florida and Georgia.”

    “Eleven states will have divided governments in 2021, unchanged from this year: Democratic governors will need to work with Republican legislators in eight states, and Republican governors will contend with Democratic lawmakers in three.”

    The Democrats have: Joe Biden, and a slim majority in the House of Representatives which they are almost certain to lose in two years.

    What the Republicans are going to do is everything we hate, but they will pretend they were “forced” to do it by the Democrats – the Democrats being the minority party.

    Amnesty? Democrats made us do it.

    More immigration? Democrats made us do it.

    The Republican party is the greater of two evils.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    , @MarkinLA
  83. Rurik says:

    Who else could have survived what Trump has been subjected to by the Establishment and their media prostitutes. In the United States the media is known as “presstitutes”—press prostitutes. That is what Udo Ulfkotte says they are in Europe.

    Mr. Ulfkotte died of a “heart attack” in January, 2017

    Rest in Peace Udo.

  84. @Curmudgeon

    “There is no evidence of a widespread amount of sewage in this wine. Would you like a glass?”

  85. Left and right.
    (What you small brains do not understand is this.)
    Democrats enabling the elite to invest in far east (lower wage costs, higher profits) did abandon the working class in America. Democrats by this act did throw away the working class as a dirty rug.
    Democrats with their TPP exporting most of the production to far east would totally destroy working class in USA. Trump’s first act was to cancel this insanity. Democrats are insanely delusional.
    Democrats were left. Left is a party that supports the working people.
    So here switch occurred. Democratic party now represent the elite, and Republicans now represent the working people.
    (The irony of the fate)

    • Agree: Cyrano, MarkU, FLgeezer
  86. Muaddib says:

    The author is just a sore LOSER.
    Democrats have a much bigger reason to scream fraud. What happened was that the political appointee hack (Dejoy) tried everything in his power to slow mail delivery. Tens of thousands, if not, hundreds of thousands, of ballots could not be counted due to the USPS deliberate slowdown.

    Despite this fraud, Democrats won. Dejoy will probably need to be charged for this.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Alden
  87. Ugetit says:
    @Dweezil the Weasel

    I for one do not take any of this that seriously any more. My honest, earned wealth has been forcibly confiscated by the Leviathan…

    I don’t either, for the same reason and many others. The whole system is a joke if one can find a cesspool something humorous and an utter tragedy if not.

  88. GMC says:

    Evidence showing Main Stream Media Gate compared to Russia Gate is a slam dunk. Just need someone to bring it up and go after it , which in itself, is more evidence that the MSM should lose all their FCC licenses. With No Federal Agency to go after the MSM, they are as powerful as the Pentagon. Except their offices are very visible and out in the open – for anyone to see.

  89. Bert33 says:

    Slamming the press doesn’t change the fact that America’s got her enemies. And, so do other countries. Right now in Azerbaijan and that neck of the woods, they’re at it with guns and missiles. Turkey’s making war noises. Apparently US fishing boats are trading paint with Russian warships by Alaska. And they’re still finding the occasional severed head in Europe. Then, there’s Taiwan…

    The basic elements of a quality news story are: Who/what/when/where/how/why, and….it’s something that can be confirmed independently, so, not something that dropped out the bottom of the journalist’s pants, not made from whole cloth write there at the desk in a creative writing exercise. Let’s strive for higher standards in news reporting. Please?

  90. The headline for PCR’s article is a prediction, not yet established, and incomplete.

    There is an ongoing massive attempt to steal the Presidential election as well as to steal an unknown number of House and Senate seats, and who knows what else.

    The ‘game’ is still on. Many tens of millions of citizens – actual total unknown but possibly in numbers unprecedented in American history – voted for Trump. Republican candidates for office generally had strong support, but again, the actual percentage of support is unknown but presumably larger than now ‘recorded’.

    There are also the many millions who ardently supported Trump, know that Biden is illegitimate, deeply corrupt, and the precursor to perils unknown. Their determination and backbone and intelligence will now be tested.

    There is the electoral college process; there are the state legislators that have a say in the process; there is the Supreme Court.

    There is also the possibility of pertinent executive orders that mandate transparent processes in the face of, say, apprehended insurrection via fraudulent voting processes.

    There is also the matter of how millions of ‘deplorables’ with trucks and tractors and firearms and other means to make their point will react to obvious massive election travesty.

    The conjunction of the COVID global scamdemic/plandemic, with crazed Bill Gates and kin lurking in the background with needles, ‘peaceful’ protesters in many cities setting fires and looting with near impunity, and a mass media that is clearly comprehensively committed to a demonic degree of dishonesty and manipulation, and lunatic levels of ‘identity politics’ ideology, are among the elements setting the stage for what may be an historical watershed.

    The American Revolution in the 18th century, against the British Crown’s authority, came about after years of simmering anger and sporadic resistance against British injustice. At some point there was a ‘tipping point’. When Germany invaded and occupied Norway early in the 2nd WW, an effective resistance quickly formed in reaction, where death and torture were the known willing risk. Two years before, those forming the resistance would have been just going on with their lives.

    No one knows today how this plays out.

  91. @Frankie P

    Right out of gate; Biden’s first announced cabinet post, chief of staff, went to a Jew.

    • Thanks: FLgeezer
  92. Agent76 says:

    Who’s Afraid of an Open Debate?

    The Truth About the Commission on Presidential Debates. The CPD is a duopoly which allows the major party candidates to draft secret agreements about debate arrangements including moderators, debate format and even participants.

    Mar 6, 2014 Truth in Media “End Partisanship”

    Ben Swann explains how the new coalition of EndPartisanship org is working to break the 2 party hold on primary elections, which currently lock around 50% of voters out of the process.

    Sep 5, 2012 DNC Platform Changes on God, Jerusalem Spur Contentious Floor Vote

    Democratic National Convention 2012: Delegates opposed to adding language on God, Israel’s capital to platform shout, ‘No!’ in floor vote.

  93. @sally

    I think you’re an idiot and the exact reason why women should not vote.

    • Troll: Harold Smith
    • Replies: @Ugetit
  94. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @TomGregg

    If a government achieves power illegitimately, why shouldn’t a parallel, alternative one, be created?

    That’s an interesting question, more so than I thought at first. Here’s a serious attempt to answer using an historical analogy.

    The obvious answer is “No, of course not”, but there turns out to be more to it than that. I’d like readers to consider some rough parallels between the US and USSR, because the US and USSR appear to have been destabilized by the same process, and some of what the Russia went through lies in our immediate future.

    The US Federal government has been (strictly speaking) illegitimate at least since Mafia / Daley intervention ensured the election of POTUS Kennedy, and has been unstable and deteriorating since POTUS Kennedy’s assassination ended his attempt to ensure long term economic and political stability for the United States.

    POTUS Kennedy’s was the last such attempt until POTUS Trump. After POTUS Kennedy came the 1960s revolution, the dominance of “political reality”, and the present stagnation of wages. At most, the POTUS between Kennedy and Trump have been temporizing, delaying the ultimate failure.

    Kennedy was a contemporary of N. Khrushchev, the last reforming Chief of State of the USSR until M. Gorbachev. Both Kennedy and Khrushchev were attempting the same feat: making a command economy (“Communism” in the USSR, “mixed economy” in the US) viable. In both cases, government controlled all sources of capital. In both cases, top level government had lost control of actual capital flow to local entities (military-industrial complex and major corporations in the US, local managers in the USSR, and various criminal organizations in both US and USSR). In both cases, the flow of money had become increasingly devoted to the political end of maintaining internal stability and new ventures were in very short supply.

    The failure of reform in both countries was amazingly similar.

    POTUS Kennedy employed a mix of criminal prosecutions for non-governmental entities (e.g. the Mafia, some labor unions) and restrictions on government spending. N. Khrushchev was unwilling and unable to re-introduce Stalinist terror (after one massacre of protesters, which resulted in massive revulsion within the Politburo), and generally relied on administrative action and attempts at new projects, which generally failed for various reasons. After Kennedy and Khrushchev, money flow in both countries was governed entirely by “Political Reality”, which amounted to diversion of capital funds to immediate spending that did not produce the long-term string of repayments of successful capital spending.

    Example 1: In both countries, a “manned space program”, billed as an expansion of industrial capabilities, was essentially show business, and both “space programs” were de-emphasized after the debacle of losing one crew by the USSR and two crews in the US. The present space industry is not the result of the manned space program, and expenditures on the manned space program were not capital investments.

    Example 2: A Soviet invasion of Europe had become impossibly risky (and perhaps impossible) with the deployment of nuclear weapons. Nonetheless, both nations spent immense sums on ground forces that would not have lived a week had a central war between the two countries ever been fought, and apparently did that in large part to avoid unemployment in the defense sector of their respective economies.

    Example 3: The Zombie corporations prevalent today have too much debt and too little capital to survive without political subsidies, which are thus diversion of national income into immediate consumption.

    Both countries, USSR and US, eventually decapitalized their industrial base (both skilled labor and capital equipment) so much that their remaining industrial base could not support their population. The USSR, having started political control of all capital flows first (1917 vs 1960), failed first (c.a. 1990), after about 73 years.

    If you are not familiar with the USSR’s breakup, see:

    or:

    The US, having taken over capital flows in 1932, failed second, with 2008 as the marker date, about 76 years, or perhaps 90 years if one counts to 2022. The election fraud was roughly equivalent to the “hard line” (Marxist) Communist coup in Russia. Note that this coup succeeded long enough to depose Gorbachev, but was clearly unable to do more than replicate the late stage USSR’s failures, and very quickly lost control to a new regime and a new ruler. While the succeeding interregnum produced an appalling number of casualties in the USSR’s population, it did at least end the influence of USSR era governance.

    CONCLUSION: If the above analogy holds, we are at the point analogous to the Marxist Communist coup against Brezhnev. The similarities are striking: Democrats have nothing to offer beyond continuing to divert national income to immediate consumption.

    The immediate consumption game is over. There is insufficient national income to divert. The gig economy is over, as is the leisure economy, and the national credit card is about maxed out. The area where I live is overrun with almost penniless white refugees from urban areas, and the cities are filled with white street people who are crazy or drug addicted or both. Offering to continue that game has very little appeal. Here’s the sort of thing that could happen:
    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/trucker-strike-november/
    And that’s just the start. What happens when (with no strike at all) no maintenance causes failure of the local or national electric grid (as in present day California), mass transit (as in present day New York), local water systems, road networks?

    The reader can reason from there.

    No pilpul replies, please.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @cylindrical crown
    , @MarkU
  95. “I think I’m not wrong in assuming that a Biden-presidency would mean more identity politics, more political correctness etc. for the USA. How do you see this?

    Just behind the curtain of the kabuki theater of the election, both parties want to vaccinate you. I recommend getting the free Religious Covid Vaccination Exemption forms before the church site is shut down. https://www.marcionitechurch.org/covidscam.html

  96. @S Martini

    So tell us why you want to inflict socialism on over 300M people and critical race theory (child abuse) on White children.

    • Agree: Alfred
  97. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:

    For those who are sick of Fake News CNN or FoxNews, watch this new channel that many Trump voters are flocking to:

    https://www.newsmaxtv.com/

    I am currently watching an interview with SD Governor Kristi Noem, who went on ABC to challenge George Stenopolosus’ claim that there is no fraud in this election. She pointed out that there has been many allegations, including dead people voting in PA and GA, she says we don’t know how widespread this is, but we owe it to the 70+ million people who voted for Trump to investigate and ensure a clean and fair election. She said we gave Al Gore 37 days to investigate the result in 2000, why aren’t we giving the same to Trump?

    She is extremely articulate and sounds intelligent and honest, and what’s more courageous to come forward like this. I hope she runs for president in 2024, I’d vote for her.

  98. Anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris in Cackalacky

    Am I the only one who sees something profoundly spiritual happening in front of our eyes?

    Yes. In reality, 5% of White men sent Trump packing. That doesn’t match the GOP negrophile narrative where “based” Hindustanis join the emerging conservative coalition to make sure White people can’t get affordable healthcare in their own countries, though. So we’ll have to watch you parasites spool up this pedantic “fraud” nonsense until the fat orange zioclown gracelessly gets dragged out.

  99. N30rebel says:

    All’s fair in love and war. Anything to get that lout out of office.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @Authenticjazzman
  100. @Drew

    Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups and Average Citizens
    by Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

    https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

  101. MarkU says:
    @Anonymous

    The original comment mentioned a blowjob, what has anal sex got to do with it?

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  102. Agent76 says:
    @TomGregg

    Good post. You will gain more insight from this background on the speech and drafting.

    Jan 19, 2011 Eisenhower’s “Military-Industrial Complex” Speech Origins and Significance US National Archives

    President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s farewell address, known for its warnings about the growing power of the “military-industrial complex,” was nearly two years in the making. This Inside the Vaults video short follows newly discovered papers revealing that Eisenhower was deeply involved in crafting the speech.

  103. @Anonymous

    If White, male electrical workers walked off the job in protest, the US would be back into the 18th century within 24 hours due to complete collapse of the grid.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @GeneralRipper
  104. Like I tried to state in a comment here before it was shown the memory hole(some authors here at UR love the power of the delete comments button). It ain’t over till it’s over.
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/11/supremes-likely-to-hand-power.html?_ga=2.57792426.1657038120.1604273272-1202797543.1572466244

  105. Thomasina says:
    @The Real World

    Great article. Thanks. Agree with you about the big stealing being electronic. Trump tweeted out yesterday that over 2 million votes were stolen this way. For him to say this, they must have evidence.

    Dinesh D’Souza said he hopes that when this matter comes before the Supreme Court that they will tackle once and for all what constitutes a legal vote.

    Some pretty big names are involved with this Dominion Voting. It will be interesting to see what Trump’s team of IT experts discover re the use of algorithms to swing the vote.

  106. Rogue says:
    @N30rebel

    Well, at least you’re honest.

    Anything to get that lout out of office

    So out goes the lout – and in comes the loon!

    Looking forward to Joe’s taking the oath of office. Will definitely be time for the popcorn.

    • Replies: @N30rebel
  107. Cyrano says:

    Why (Oh, why) did Trump had to go? Because Trump is an enema to the Deep State. He was threatening to expose the biggest lie of the last 100 years – the supposed “liberalism” of US. The US “liberalism” was invented in the 60’s as a response to the socialist threat.

    Socialism – or as it is “known” in the west – communism (because it sounds more scary) had one big objective – to redress the injustices done by rich white man to poor white man – or rich Asian man done to poor Asian man. I hope you catch my drift, socialism was supposed to redress injustices within a race.

    Now, what kind of challenge is that? Capitalism decided to take it one step further – its main preoccupation became injustices done by white man to men of color. Now which one carries heavier humanistic weight? Of course injustices done by white men to non-white man carry a heavier humanistic payload.

    Luckily, that payload doesn’t have to be paid by rich white men – who are all non-racist to the very last of them, all pure humanists. The pay for racial injustices has to be done by poor, or relatively poor white man. They are the real racist, uneducated, unenlightened bigots.

    Thankfully, now with that charismatic young man Biden in charge, it looks like this crucial battle for the soul of humanity is on the verge of being finally won. They’re gonna make the deplorables pay for all the injustices done to those that are of different race than them.

    To be honest, I still believe that the demoncrats would be better off taking on a smaller and less challenging task at first – addressing the injustices within a race – done to the poor whites by the not so poor ones, and only then take on the more monu(mental), and ultimately – more rewarding task of addressing injustices between races – all done by the deplorables, by the way.

    • LOL: Alfred
  108. @Wizard of Oz

    It has already been determined by the court. Pennsylvania ruled that late ballots are not to be counted.

    https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/11/602-MD-2020-Order-Nov.-12.pdf

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  109. DanFromCT says:
    @Stephen Allen

    The author refers to a body of overwhelmingly persuasive evidence of voter fraud that can be specified and quantified to provide proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal cases, not to mention hands down proof in civil cases requiring only a preponderance of the evidence to establish guilt. Furthermore, the Democrats’ easily documented, elaborate efforts at concealing the vote counting process by shutting down the counting prior to sneaking truckloads of ballots in the back door is by itself powerful circumstantial evidence of their guilt. You have no idea what “evidence” means, either in general usage or in its strictly legal sense.

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
  110. The election cannot be trusted at all, just based on the insane entitled emotional state of the Globalist establishment alone. The system as-a-whole cannot be trusted, for the same reason. They are actively corrupting it in every way they can, and fully believe (as a matter of religious conviction) that they are right to do so.

  111. Wally says:
    @KenH

    said:
    “Trump and the Republicucks believed they would get 30% of the black vote yet they only received about 12% overall which was an increase from the 8% he got in 2016. But again that was more than offset by losing 3-4% of whites so he lost far more than he gained but Republican strategists will never learn and refuse to see what is right in front of their faces.”

    – How do you know that?

    – I remind you that the numbers have been cooked

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @KenH
  112. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    Pure evil…..supporters of burning, looting and murder, all for their agenda.

  113. Art says:

    That Trump survived all the false charges shows that he is a real person, a powerful character. Who else could have survived what Trump has been subjected to by the Establishment and their media prostitutes.

    Trumps supporters have one thing in common. They are in some way Christian in inclination.

    The Jew leaders of the elite left cannot stop themselves – they will attack Christianity. In the next four years, Christians will come to understand that they are the true target of the elite twenty percenters.

    Being in the “out” social class is a powerful motivator. All is not lost, a Christian brotherhood will reappear.

  114. @Curmudgeon

    “no evidence of wide spread voter fraud”

    That’s one of the Jew/Anglo Puritan Establishment’s new catch-phrases. There’s also “no evidence” that Joe Biden acted in a corrupt manner in Ukraine, even though he admitted to it on tape. There’s “no evidence” that Big Tech is biased against conservative plebians, despite their removing conservative plebians’ published content arbitrarily and with no State compulsion to do so. The phrase “there’s no evidence” is just a public commitment to ignore any evidence, no matter how blatant or obvious.

    • Agree: Alfred
  115. @DanFromCT

    This newly discovered legal standard goes beyond “preponderance of the evidence” or even “guilt beyond a reasonable doubt” to establish absolute certainty as the standard.

    Just the obvious and necessary complement of the Bob Mueller standard for Russian collusion, don’t you think — “could not (quite) exonerate”? /s

    Don’t you dare call this hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @DanFromCT
  116. Miro23 says:

    Trump was able to be elected only because the Establishment thought he had no chance and took no measures to prevent his election. A number of studies have concluded that in the US the people, despite democracy and voting, have zero input into public policy.

    Since the fashion is Downsizing and Retro – then it could usefully apply to US politics.

    Downsizing (state independence) and Retro (local funding and issue by issue binding ballots). Washington would be the home of a figurehead president with a ceremonial role.

    • Replies: @Poco
  117. @animalogic

    In your example, there would have to be physical evidence that there was a victim, the victim was hit, and/or that a rock was used.
    My point is that the media and legal systems use mental gymnastics, commonly known as spin.

  118. @Trickster

    Shit always flows down but in an astounding reversal of gravity it seems it floated up………from the halls of South America to shores of the Potomac.

    You kinda left me hanging there. I was sure you were going to call this Montezuma’s revenge. LOL

  119. @MarkU

    Sodomy includes buggery – anal sex. Anal sex is an “unnatural act” and illegal at one time, as were fellatio and cunnilingus, irrespective of being hetero- or homosexual (including lesbian) in nature.

  120. MarkU says:
    @Anonymous

    Your comment was very informative but lacks a clearly stated thesis nor any attribution of agency, who for example was behind the assassination of president Kennedy and why?

    I dispute your description of a mixed economy as a command economy. In my view, a mixed economy is the only really viable economic model because:-

    1) It is the only model that keeps the power divided. If all the power is controlled by party ideologues or by financial institutions then corruption is the inevitable result. In a proper mixed economy where the infrastructure is developed, operated and controlled by the state (ie officials elected by the people) and the rest of the economy is based on a free market, the worst consequences of undue concentration of power can be minimised.

    2) Infrastructure is a long term thing, capitalism does not ‘do’ long term very well. It is always more profitable in the short term to allow the infrastructure to decay and then move on to a place with a better infrastructure.

    3) Capitalism has no inherent loyalty to the people or the nations they serve. The outsourcing of US and European industries to other parts of the world has been disastrous for the working people of the US and Europe, though profitable for capitalists of course.

    4) Communism does not ‘do’ freedom very well, freedom of speech, thought or association. If all the power is in the hands of political ideologues then stagnation and oppression result. Ideologues have the unfortunate tendency to assume that the real world must conform to their ideological stance, hence Lysenkoism in the USSR and the total denial of biological differences between races/sexes by ideologues in the west today. I view the trans movement as another attempt to blur the distinctions between the sexes, an attempt to force reality to conform to their ideological stance.

    The immediate consumption game is over. There is insufficient national income to divert.

    Just imagine if all the effort that has been poured into the military after the fall of the USSR had instead been spent on renewing the infrastructure of the western world. Both the Russian and Chinese ‘threats’ were entirely manufactured by the west. The Russians were clearly intent on joining the west until it was made clear to them that wasn’t an option. The Chinese were mainly keeping themselves to themselves until a veritable avalanche of western capital allowed them to expand their economy to enormous size.

    So who is responsible for the mess we are in today? I say it is the (mainly Jewish) bankers. The agenda seems to include the eventual destruction of nation states (except Israel) by turning them all into lands of warring ghettos, so they can divide and rule them more easily. Initially it seemed they intended to rule the world, now it seems they have decided to divide the world into two camps and rule one of them. Either way, they intend to establish an oligarchy which is going to be well nigh impossible to remove, that cannot be allowed to happen.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  121. @Rogue

    When it comes to protecting the integrity of elections, “low-tech” might be best!

    • Agree: Rogue
    • Replies: @Art
    , @The Real World
  122. anon[771] • Disclaimer says:
    @endthefed

    His impotence makes a lot more sense when you know the full version was supposed to be Military-Industrial Congressional Complex.

  123. @Plato's Dream

    The main white demographic he lost were stupid white suburban women

    In defense of your suburban women, I would suggest that their habit of changing their names on marriage makes them susceptible vehicles for a certain perfidious type of election fraud. If someone is inclined to vote twice they need only register to vote under both names. If someone else who knows or can get your maiden name wants to do so, they can be sure you are more likely to vote under your married name. No one ever needs to know about the scam.

    As Mr. Biden would say, voter fraud needs to be both inclusive and creative.

  124. @N30rebel

    “All’s fair in love and war”

    And this according to you Democrat scumbags includes putting a pervert who mishandles young girls into the OO.

    You people as so fucking degenerate and disgusting that no wonder the lunatic Germans love your party and worship BO as a saint

    But one thing you are not paying attention to which will bring your downfall: We at at war now, we are enemies and you started it, and you cowardly cretins will not win.

    AJM

    • Replies: @N30rebel
  125. First off I don’t trust PC Roberts because of the way he wholeheartedly jumped on the media orchestrated Saint Michael Brown “college bound gentle giant” bandwagon demonizing Officer Wilson. Has he ever apologized for that?

    Democracy is a con game.

    “Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy. You in America will see that some day.”
    — Benito Mussolini to Edwin L. James of the New York Times (1928)

    “Some day” is now.

  126. @Wizard of Oz

    Without necessarily buying your story, you really should have stuck with the Troll tag. Then I could have trolled you for finally having told the truth. Honesty usually sells better than narcissism.

    Get a life, Wiz. You put your foot in it and didn’t immediately explain. It was a harmless quip.

    • LOL: Ugetit
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  127. @TheTrumanShow

    Agree that the “lost some of the white male vote” (or however they’re exactly spinning the narrative today) is bogus.

    It’s important for people to realize that media NARRATIVES are created ahead of time to support some of these elections outcomes. They’re as fake as the election totals.

    The narrative to support the steal of the NC Repub incumbent Governors race in 2016 was created out of whole cloth with the utterly stupid transgender bathroom scam. It originated and was managed out of a lobbyist firm in Wash DC. The capable and well-liked Gov “lost” re-election by less than 5000 votes and that fake story was given as the reason why.

    They went for a softer approach in KY in 2019. The first-term Repub Gov had a Yankee’s forthrightness so they just latched onto comments he made regarding the underfunded teachers pension program and amped-it to high heaven getting teachers all in a frightful frenzy.

    In that solidly Red state, with all other prominent offices on the ballot (AG, SoS, etc.) going overwhelmingly Repub, somehow the Repub Gov loses to the Dem by around 5000 votes. The “teachers pension” narrative was rolled-out as the reason. (Btw, it seems that Dominion, or another type, software was used to switch the votes in that race. I’ve seen video about it.)

  128. AKINDLE says:
    @KenH

    I couldn’t agree more. Trump was just a n lovin’ rich sleazeball loser. He didn’t deserve my vote. Neither did Biden. Trump can cry on the shoulders of the disgusting rappers he promoted.

  129. Art says:
    @Orville H. Larson

    When it comes to protecting the integrity of elections, “low-tech” might be best!

    Paper ballets as ascribed by Tulsi Gabbard legislation is the only safe option for elections.

    Kudos to Tulsi!

    • Agree: Miro23, Majority of One
  130. @Orville H. Larson

    Agreed. And early voting is a big problem. It provides too much advance info about how the winds are blowing. There is nothing good about it.

    Why not this:
    — ONLY in-person voting over a 2-day period, a Sat and Sun, with polls being open from 6AM to 9PM both days.
    — Exceptions are the traditional requested absentee ballot where the voter can be authenticated.
    — Paper ballots must be used at the polls and no single box of ‘Straight Vote by Party’ is offered.
    — Some kind of SIMPLE scanning tabulator could be used of the ballots and with it NOT being connected to the internet.

    There is far too much cheating opportunity built into our current system. That’s intended, of course.
    It needs to end!

  131. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/exclusive-based-reports-auditors-specialists-data-analysts-statisticians-number-illegitimate-votes-identified-four-swing-states-enough-overturn-election/

    Well, the real truth is EVEN IF Biden did win with more votes, the fact this whole election stunk because Jewish Power used Covid and BLM to mess up the entire nation.
    With Covid, Jewish Power sunk the economy and turned everyone depressed/paranoid. With BLM nuttery, Jews held a gun to America and said ‘Give us Biden or you’ll get more riots’.

    The real tragicomedy of Trump Presidency is he loudly sucked up to the group that hates him most, but that is the pathetic nature of the American Right, including the likes of Jared Taylor.

    Whether Trump, Evangelicals, or white ‘advocates’ like Taylor, they cravenly grovel at the feet of the most anti-white force.

  132. Because you don’t get it. You are missing the big picture. It was well known that these systems had the ability to be hacked as soon as they were implemented. It is also a well known fact that massive mail in ballots increases the liklihood that corrupt individuals are more likely to get away with election fraud. Everyone knew about the potential for voter fraud to occur, but the entire system is corrupt, including Trump who has allowed the massive corruption within the system that was present when he entered office to persist and grow because he is a wimpy, spineless, coward, that was too afraid to make any waves and take the heat that he promised his voters. Why anyone voted for Trump in 2020 confounds me. I voted for him in 2016 and he has turned out to be one of the worst presidents in history. Trump in his cowardess and dishonesty knew that the ailing economy would harm his chances of being re-elected, so he allowed the health scare scamdemic to occur and destroy the livlihoods, lives, and businesses of hundreds of millions of Americans because he is a psychopath. Trump did not do what he promised. Trump made America worse than it has ever been since the end of slavery. Jeremy Powell said today that the economy is dead and will never recover. The only injustices that Trump gave a damn about were the injustices against himself and his family, and has committed countless injustices against the entire country and world during his term. Trump is a corrupt narcissist. The facts prove it. Trump is such a corrupt narcissist that he was willing to destroy the entire economy based on scientific fraud, high crimes, and treason to use as political cover for his own incompetency which is the most offensive and disgusting diabolical act ever perpetrated on the entire country. Trump has also demanded the extradition of Assange after telling his voters that he loved wikileaks. Trump is a two-faced, lying, fraud. It has been his pattern. He consistently supports various groups and people like Wikileaks, Proud Boys, and others and panders to them and voters and tells people that he loves them, and then every time without fail when the heat is on, Trump says,” I really don’t know anything about them.”
     “I know nothing.” Trump saying “I know nothing.” defines his presidency and who he is as a person, a spineless, pandering, corrupt, two-faced, narcissist, loser, and wimp! 

    Why would anyone vote for him the second time around after a record of pathological incompetency and pathological  corruption? What’s to approve of about him? Go ahead, investigate voter fraud it if is permitted, and if it isn’t then ask yourselves why it is that a system that enables election fraud is in place, and ask yourselves who had the ability to change it and, who had the ability to benefit from it! 

    Andrea Iravani 

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  133. @Wally

    The numbers were (((cooked))) for sure.

    But beyond that, reality doesn’t matter to the tribe. Their goal is to subvert and lie….reality is a small obstacle when you control the media narrative.

    The nose narrative (accepted by the bought off GOP shabbos goy cucks) is that the Republican party is the party of diversity! The nose doesn’t care what happens to the GOP…..and in fact the nose is engineering the complete destruction of the GOP.

    Fox News is pushing this fake anti-white narrative now, with guests claiming that it’s a “mistake” to try to get white votes! So much better to cater and pander to blacks and mexicans!

    I can promise you that IF a real white nationalist were allowed to run and speak his mind, he would win hands down. But the tribe isn’t about to let that happen. Trump was about 1/1000 of a white nationalist and even that little bit of whiteness caused hysteria for our paranoid large nosed friends.

    I see no way out of this other than separation or civil war. The nose has an endless money supply to buy off every leader on both sides. Finance combined with media/education control and they have all of the levers of dominance.

    Maybe the election coup will redpill enough people to fight back….it’s a race against time. If Biden/Schumer add states, pack the SC, give amnesty to illegals, end the filibuster, and open the borders…..America will be lost forever.

  134. How long is the history of Western Civilization? Going back to the Greeks, it’s at least 2,500 yrs.

    And how many universities are there in US, EU, and rest of Western world?

    This article says US has around 5,300 colleges: https://www.educationunlimited.com/blog/how-many-universities-colleges-are-in-the-us/

    And EU and Canada and Australia have many more.

    So, after all that history and with all those intellectual institutions, the highest, the ultimate, and the most advanced & profound idea that the West came up with is the goo-goo baby-talk of DIE, or Diversity-Inclusion-Equity? Really?

    Now, why all this talk of DIE when the West is under Jewish Rule. Do Jews tolerate diversity of power-sharing or do they insist all politicians suck up to Jewish Power and all institutions/industries obey pro-Zionist dictates? How about real diversity, like elite institutions listening to BDS as well as to ADL? No chance.
    And this ‘inclusion’. Okay, so when will we have open admissions at Ivy League universities? And when will NYT and WAPO include Palestinian-American columinists?
    And ‘equity’? ROTFL. The elites preaching to us about equity when they’ve gotten richer and richer with the globalist regimen that sold out the working class and middle class?
    It seems the babytalk of DIE is just a ruse of obfuscatory rhetoric to hide the fact that the elites hog everything under the globalist system.

    But other than that, you mean Western Civilization cannot come up with any higher truth or value than baby-talk sloganeering and chanting of ‘diversity’, ‘inclusion’, and ‘equity’? What are people now? Kindergarten children?

    If the highest truth is so easy — goo, goo, diversity, inclusion, and equity — , why do we need thousands of colleges? The goo-goo babytalk of DIE can be learned in elementary school or gotten from TV talk show. Diverity, goo, inclusion, goo, equity, goo. No need to have so many colleges when the supposed highest values are so easy to learn with a bit of sloganeering.

  135. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:

    The first part of any US election is keeping it close enough to steal. In their attempt to purge Trump CIA failed to do that, but they resorted to their large-scale regime-change capabilities and tried to steal it anyway. As a result, you can see the fraud from space.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot

    Democrats are frantically trying to shout down their enemies but they are just along for the ride. Trump survived Russiagate; rigging this election is CIA’s follow-on campaign.

  136. @Mark W Anderson

    Except it is not a “close election” (Trollspeak). Trump won 80% of the vote.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  137. profnasty says:

    My people are between Iraq and a hard place. Should Biden win, White people, in general, are skrewed.
    If Trump pulls one out, the cities will explode. Violence will prevail.
    Oh what is a poor boy to do?

  138. AReply says:
    @Lee

    Bullshit

    Elections are not to satisfy candidates. Elections are for the society which conducts them. And they are only as good as this society, so look in the mirror.

    While USA is under incredible corporate control, the GOP has for generations drumbeat for, enacted and enshrined ruinous policy for our society at large.

    Are there vast numbers of croaking itinerants in urban blight leaving behind piles of mail including ballots to be scraped into service of a particular party or candidate? That’s GOP standard operating procedure. Trump scammed the public by helping to wreck NYC for regular joes to build palaces of privilege for the Epstein class. This is outright who he is! It’s not some cranky conspuricy theory, it’s a trivial observation of history.

    This blog is a lacunae. And the writing here overwhelming evidence of criminal incompetence of thought.

    But these comments are just anguish.

    Good work. Like the enjoyment of standing in the wake of jet engine exhaust. I’m sure some of you feel glee that you are curdling the brains of the enemy with your vortex of hot wind. Were my brains scrambled before I got here? Schrodinger has a cat that knows.

    But no matter how much enjoyment is being taken here, these PCR articles and the rally around El Presidente is bullshit.

    God help us all as this level of dissonance prevails as the order of the day.

    Hedges on Culture of Despair

    • Replies: @Poco
  139. @No Friend Of The Devil

    You make some strong points.

    However, I’m not sure it’s fair to blame Trump for the Covid hoax. Initially his instincts were right when he said it was like the flu…..but the Jew media pounced on that and created a narrative that Trump cared more about the economy than about people’s lives. It was a false narrative but it worked on some people.

    The Jew media incited worldwide hysteria about the stupid virus and this was way beyond anything that Trump could control.

    Consider that the hysteria is STILL working! You’d think that by now people would have figured it out. Mike Enoch finally admitted that he was wrong about Covid and that the Jews probably used Covid to wreck the economy and spoil Trump’s chances for a second term.

    Yes, Trump turned out to be a weak big mouth, but the entire anti-white jewish system was out to get him from day one.

    Oh, in terms of who had the ability to benefit from election fraud, that would be the left, since they have control of the three major voting machine companies, and they have control of the intelligence agencies as well.

    I don’t think any of us had any illusions regarding Trump, but even with his many faults at least he would not go full anti-white like Biden/Harris.

    • Agree: Alden
  140. @Bragadocious

    “The last President to stand up to Israel…”

    Read James Baques’ “Other Losses” about one of the biggest war murderers by the name of Dwight Eisenhower. This guy bought his ticket to the US presidency by barbarically causing the death of more than one million German POWs. Another book that sheds interests light on this despicable character is ‘ I don’t like Ike’ by Mike King.

    • Agree: Ugetit
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    , @Wally
  141. @animalogic

    “in the narrowest of legalistic terms, testimony or affidavits are not evidence. Testimony and affidavits become evidence when supported by physical evidence. ” Correct – but they also can become evidence by verbal testimony. ie “I saw the defendant hit the victim with a rock”

    No.

    In “the narrowest of legalistic terms” Evidence is nothing more or less than that which is admitted as such by a Court. An affidavit may be admitted in place of testimony when the witness is unavailable or for purposes of refuting testimony. Affidavits are also routinely used as Evidence in establishing probable cause for search warrants and arraignment or indictment.

    • Replies: @Chaco Cortes
  142. Poco says:
    @Miro23

    There would still need to be the power to defend the borders delegated to some office.

    Otherwise, lunatics like the type who run California into the ground would leave their border open. Then you have wars between states.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  143. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:

    Kristi Noem for 2024!!

    Republicans who are not standing behind Trump now are not only cowardly, but extremely stupid and short-sighted. If they let the Dems get away with this, pretty soon none of them will be elected.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
    • Replies: @Gapeseed
    , @TheTrumanShow
  144. vinteuil says:
    @S Martini

    “…the claim of ‘mail vote massive fraud’ is turning out to be as credible as Russiagate…”

    Well, the Democrat Party exploited “Russiagate” to delegitimize Trump’s presidency for his entire term. Most Democrats still believe, contrary to all evidence, that Trump is a Russian asset.

    Even if Trump’s claims of election fraud turn out to be equally baseless (which they most certainly won’t) the Republicans would be fools & pussies not to exploit them in just the same way.

    Obviously, you want the Republicans to be fools and pussies.

    No doubt, you will get your way.

  145. Poco says:
    @AReply

    I’m no fan of the GOP but your conveniently leaving out ruinous policies of the democrat party is telling. It’s not the GOP running the cities into the ground or inciting riots.

  146. Wally says:
    @MLK

    said:
    ” This was evident early on Election Day (e.g. fake water main breaks in Atlanta) and necessitated their playing their Fox/AZ card and shutting down the count at least until they had removed Republican monitors.”

    “Fake water main breaks in Atlanta”, “shutting down the count”….. indeed.

    recommended:

    Open Records Request Finds NO INVOICES OR WORK ORDERS on Reported Election Day Water Main Break in Atlanta: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-open-records-request-finds-no-invoices-work-orders-reported-election-day-water-main-break-atlanta-found/

    Why Did Six Battleground States with Democrat Governors (Except One) ALL Pause Counting on Election Night? And How Was This Coordinated? : https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/six-battleground-states-democrat-governors-pause-counting-election-night-coordinated/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

  147. anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    All you “free” whiny-wankers should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Now, what was that thing which the whitevil love to throw around?

    They hate us for the Democrazy of the Banana States of America?!!

    Rofl!

  148. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Justices Thomas and Alito, Dissenting:

    The majority has utilized an “outcome-determining” test, reasoning that even if one were to believe the allegations of petitioners’ affidavits, the specified irregularities would not change the electoral outcome. The majority thus confers upon the election the designation of Supreme Court endorsement. We decline to confer this approbation, because a fair analysis of irregularities would scrutinize not merely the tip of the iceberg, but rather the underlying iceberg itself. Unfortunately, the 20th amendment, moving the inauguration date forward from March to January, renders such proper scrutiny impossible. Therefore, rather than reject petitioners’ claims, which would effectively endorse the election result, we would adjudge that making a ruling is, unfortunately, a physical impossibility.

  149. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Well sure they stole it, look how high the stakes are. If Democrats can’t push Trump out, Brennan is going to get fried for the failed Russiagate coup he ran. Brennan is as treasonous as Dulles was but unlike Dulles, Brennan is too cowardly to blow the president’s brains out when he got shitcanned. Now the story of CIA’s treason is going to come out. Watch the scumbag’s pitstains spread. Watch Gina’s crepey armpits too.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2020/11/13/ray-mcgovern-what-is-john-brennan-so-worried-about/

  150. I think by now, the fraud is becoming more and more obvious. The question is if Trump will be able to outplay the gargantuesque Deep State.

    Just in…

    130 Secret Services agents, suddenly got the flue (aka Covid) and have to be quarantined.

    Perfect timing with Trump’s (potential) upcoming rallies.

    Wasn’t the Secret Service ordered to stand down the day JFK was murdered?

  151. MarkU says:
    @S Martini

    Ironically, the claim of “mail vote massive fraud” is turning out to be as credible as
    Russiagate or the claim of Russians paying Taliban to kill Americans. Like the false accusations about Russia, delegitimizing the presidential election as fraud is turning out to be much ado about nothing.

    So your position is that regardless of the fact that the Democrats have been lying and cheating for the last four years, aided and abetted by big tech and the media, we should believe them now?

    Until an evidence of malfeasance is presented and deemed persuasive, it would be wise for president Trump to pass the baton and move on peacefully and gracefully.

    How does that make sense? To concede defeat at this stage means no further investigation. It would make more sense to await the results of the investigation. After all, as you have already admitted, the Democrats are undeniably liars and frauds.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  152. DanFromCT says:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    Right! You need to formulate your idea. Maybe something like the now normalized standard in the Swamp we could call the Mueller-Schiff Rule, that goes, “Lack of evidence does not imply innocence.”

  153. N30rebel says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Click…you liberal idiots…click…you liberal idiots…click…you liberal idiots…yada…yada…yada. AJM, I think your record is skipping…along with your marbles. Given that there seems to be about 72 million of you folks, it’s going to take us awhile to process you all, but we will.

  154. jeb says:

    The only question is whether the Republican establishment will support challenging the documented fraud or whether Trump will be pressured to concede in order to protect the reputation of American Democracy.

    I think this is really about maintaining the ability to steal elections by both of the same party, as Republicans did in 2000 and 2004.

    Probably, it’s been going on since JFK.

  155. N30rebel says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Well, AJM, I’m not here to blow sunshine up your ass.

    • LOL: Ugetit
  156. Trump spent four years doing everything to appease his Zionist masters, that is, everything short of getting us into another hot war, thinking his incendiary rhetoric against Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela would be enough to appease the Zionist filth, and they pulled the rug from underneath him, because they’ve got two other puppets much more willing to go to war. Meanwhile, he did little to nothing for his base on curbing immigration, especially the H1b’s and OPTs. Legal immigration remains at about the same level until Covid, while he talked incessantly about how he plans to “do something for the DACA people” and wants “more people than ever” to come to America. It’s no wonder he lost the white male votes.

    Msm had been all butt hurt about why it took China five long days to finally congratulate Biden, and even then, it didn’t come from President Xi but from the foreign minister. The CCP mouthpiece Global Times today said that elites in the DNC and GOP are ganging up to push Trump out. They predict that the two party system will eventually splinter into a four party system as the far-left breaks off from DNC and the far-right breaks off from GOP.

    I think that might just be the best thing for America. At least then we can stop pretending like there is a difference between the two current parties. Now no matter who we vote for, we get the same 4 things: 1) Zionism, 2) Corporatism/crony capitalism, 3) endless wars, 4) endless immigration. Both the far left and far right want to end the first 3, but only the far right wants to end immigration. A four party system will be the only way to break the Zionist hold on both parties, which are now corrupt to the core. It’s time for Trump supporters to leave the GOP and form a separate party. But Trump should not lead such a party, as he is too compromised and just another jew puppet.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Miro23
  157. N30rebel says:
    @Rogue

    Loons indeed, but I had no idea how much so until reading that Hillary is being considered for Biden’s ambassador to the U.N. Not being a fan of fascism, though, I chanced that Joe and Kamala will return us to regular programming.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  158. annamaria says:

    “Digital technology has also made it easy to alter vote counts. … it was developed by the National Security Agency to interfere in foreign elections, but now is in the hands of the CIA and was used to defeat Trump. Trump is considered to be an enemy of the military/security complex because of his wish to normalize relations with Russia, thus taking away the enemy that justifies the CIA’s budget and power.”

    — Biden is a choice of the MIC. The ongoing color revolution in the US was initiated to rectify Trump’s ‘wrongdoings’ in Syria and Afghanistan; Trump’s slogan “bring our soldiers home” has been intolerable for mega war profiteers and chosenites. The deciders have miscalculated, and the color revolution can become the final step in the system’s undoing.

    There is nothing is left in the US but Hypocrisy, Financial Squid, Masters of the Mass Slaughter (the MIC), the despair of the intelligent, and the anxiety of the politically correct (and pliable) wokes and ‘progressives.’

    Trump, with all his shortcomings, held a promise of a chance for the country’s survival. The mass murderers and mega usurers had their own ideas that do not concern, at all, the US citizenry at large (nor humanity at large). The cadaverous Biden has been primed for the immediate initiation of hostilities towards Russia and China. https://www.globalresearch.ca/joe-biden-foreign-policy/5729248

    Biden is still breathing, but morally he is a rotten corpse. The same is true for the Obamas and Clintons. The idiotic Obama/Clinton duo had engaged the intelligence community to run a coup d’etat against POTUS. The engagement has exposed the CIA & FBI as rogue agencies acting against the US Constitution. Splendid.

    The US is mortally wounded by the combination of Cheney’s profitable 9/11 adventure, the Wars for Israel, and Obama/Clinton’s Russiagate. The putsch is not about Dems or Repubs — this is about the thoroughly rotten system that produces and maintains traitors like McCabe, Cheney, Clintons, Rumsfeld, McCain, Wasserman Schultz, Bidens, the zionized brass, et al. https://israelpalestinenews.org/fighting-israels-wars-u-s-military-government-become-zionized/

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @AReply
  159. sally says:
    @TomGregg

    I think its not alternative but parallel and interlaced government you mean? Because back to back different governments would conflict?

    I proposed two simultaneous but differently purposed interlaced governments to operate in parallel with each other. The primary government would govern the masses and handle relations between the nations, while the 2nd government would govern those who were the governors.

    The primary government governs the resources of the states and the masses that occupy its space within it boundaries.. In America, there were, at different times, after British rule was ended, two governments: the first, operated under the Articles of Confederation, and it existed between 1776 and 1788 (13 years, its First President of the United States was John Hanson), That democracy supported the USA but was over thrown by the 2nd USA. The 2nd USA, supported by Oligarchs and their powerful corporations, operates under authority of the Constitution of the USA which was produced by people of wealth and privilege who survived the American Revolution. This privileged few engineered a constitution in 1787, and self-ratified [without input from the governed] the engineered result, which forced federalism into a republican design. The constitution has provides the Oligarchs with unchecked monopoly and governing powers; all they ever needed to use of USA for their private purpose but it excludes the participation by the deplorable masses.

    A check point solution could be obtained by a second government: one operating at the same time as the republic. That second (or audit) government would govern those who are functioning in the primary government. The audit government would monitor the activities of those who function in the republican government. Auditors would include everyone not in the primary government. The audit government would discover and punish actors and stop primary government activities that abuse constitutional power, or that enable corrupt self gain, misappropriation or redirection of constitutional power.

    I agree some solution to the current situation is needed.

  160. Corvinus says:

    “The Democrats Have Stolen the Presidential Election”

    That would be Fake News.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  161. @Joe Levantine

    So what, war crimes happened on all sides. I don’t give a shit what Canadians think in general.

    • Replies: @Ace
  162. @Peripatetic Itch

    You are perhaps right. I should have left Troll and then added a humorous “Reply”. But I was a bit fixated the (unimportant) mystery of how the hell the “Troll” got ther. Actually I didn’t know I could add tags to my own comments. It opens up possibilities….

  163. Corvinus says:
    @ploni almoni

    “Except it is not a “close election” (Trollspeak). Trump won 80% of the vote.”

    No, he did not.

    The fact of the matter is that Trump and a core group of allies are aiming to keep his loyal base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

    The numbers are legitimate until they are proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are illegitimate. So why shouldn’t we believe people like this guy? How are they “in on it”? –> “There’s a great human capacity for inventing things that aren’t true about elections,” said Frank LaRose, a Republican who serves as Ohio’s secretary of state. “The conspiracy theories and rumors and all those things run rampant. For some reason, elections breed that type of mythology.”

    The claims will have to mature into something of substance. So why should we unequivocally believe Weasel Zippers, Brietbart, PJ Media, and Alex Jones? Could not Trump’s endgame be the culmination of four years of Fake News madness by he and the Alt Right? Are they not riling up the base and incentivizing them in the name of moral indignation?

    Remember, Trump stated 100 percent he would win no matter what. If he won, there was no fraud. If he lost, there was massive fraud. That is insane, given how many people were not fans of him or his policies, including Republicans.

    And the fact that Republican candidates did better than Trump in down-ballot races means that voters split their votes. Enough Republican voters had made up their minds in the weeks before the election that Trump was not what they expected of a president and voted accordingly. Furthermore, a lot of it can be exampled by increased black turnout rates and Trump’s drop in support among white men could be explained by his facing off against another white male this time.

    Put all of these things together, and this result need not be explained by fraud at all.

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  164. Miro23 says:
    @Poco

    There would still need to be the power to defend the borders delegated to some office.

    Otherwise, lunatics like the type who run California into the ground would leave their border open. Then you have wars between states.

    If you imagine states as independent countries it can work OK. For example California (40 million people) has a border with Arizona (7.4 million people). Similarly France (67 million people) has a border with Switzerland (8.6 million people).

    France and Switzerland have very different immigration policies, and a seriously controlled border, but they still have good relations, do plenty of trade, and speak the same language (French) on both sides of the frontier. US states could have different policies but still have good relations – although my guess is that if they employed serious (Swiss style) issue by issue informed voting, the mass immigration would stop. Currently it’s more of a ZioGlob NWO top down thing imposed from the centre.

  165. geokat62 says:

  166. @Genrick Yagoda

    Thank you. Very interesting. I think I understand that it is a (probably correct) decision that the ballot papers received after 8pm on 3rf November and segregated according to the interim injunction – even though postmarked before 8pm on 3rd November – should not be regarded as valid votes.

    It points to what could be regarded as a truly big fraud against American voters. That is any attempts by the President or his team to prevent postal ballots arriving in good time in the ordinary course of post. But it is ridiculous for Trump or PCR to insist on a fraudulent motive for electoral off icials trying to make genuine attempts to ensure each vote counts.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  167. Miro23 says:
    @Go back to Zion!

    A four party system will be the only way to break the Zionist hold on both parties, which are now corrupt to the core. It’s time for Trump supporters to leave the GOP and form a separate party.

    An easier solution would be for states to return to the arrangement that the founders intended – quasi independent states with a minimal weak centre. Combined with obligatory issue by issue citizen voting down to county level , this would build a system impervious to the ZioGlob. Realistically, the deep state can only operate by capturing Washington. Faced with 50 self funded states using issue by issue direct citizen voting they would be defeated.

  168. vinteuil says:

    Wow – our well-known Democrat operative Corvinus sure is at his exercise, today.

    Nobody here takes him seriously. Everybody laughs at him. Yet he soldiers on.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  169. Reger says:
    @No Friend Of The Devil

    psst me too. I use this website to get a taste of American nutcases, but otherwise, for Patrick Cockburn.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  170. Notsofast says:
    @Priss Factor

    Imo the question is why are actual cia goons like brennan serving as talking heads. They dont even try to hide it anymore. The 900 lb mockingbird in the room.

  171. @sally

    …but his real crime in ethics was lying to the voters during his first campaigns. Promised no wars, but then threatened the world with war…

    Exactly; and Paul Craig Roberts et al. have spent the last four years ignoring and/or downplaying Trump’s dangerously belligerent foreign policy and/or blaming it on the “military industrial complex” and/or the scumbags that Trump chose to surround himself with.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  172. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:

    You miss to mention AXIOS and other political consultants specializing in fabricating ELECTORAL FRAUD…this DEM operative began using mail in ballots to open the space for massive illegitimate votes. Axios used cybertechnology to skew the voting results in favor of BIDEN…There is no scaping reality the 2020 USA elections were fraudulent illegitimate…poor old man BIDEN doesnt even know he was running for president and won…he is being given scripts to read. On the other hand the electoral results in states like FL, TX, AZ,NM gave us a window into an America that was growing more internally united beyond the identity/ethnic/racial dem politics…ONE disturbing conclusion is that in many RED states ILLEGAL MEXICAN VOTES outnumbered the legal (WHITE/BLACK) voters in other words ILLEGAL MEXICAN eventhought they are NOT citizens did vote and constitute a large growing voting demographic that can decide state local races..in spite of being NON CITIZNS, ILLEGALLY in the country…and the DEMS knew it…This elections tells us clearly the electoral system is NO longer valid, reliable, legitimate…The DEM regimes to come will put in place LAWS that will disenfranchised CONSERVATIVE Nationalists (white/blacks etc.) accusing them of white supremascists, racists, xenophobic, A SOLID IMPENETRABLE BLUEDEM/RINO UNITARY NATIONAL PARTY.. and will use BLMANTIFA, and ILLEGAL MEXICANS to WIN elections..We will see the surge of a JIM CROW (in reverse) making being white illegal..so ironic in today America mexican illegal will gain power and native born WHITES/Black will lose it.

  173. nymom says:

    You mean that they are trying to steal the election.

    Recounts have been ordered in 4 of the 5 contested states already and if this has to be decided by the House, Republicans represent 30 states and each state is given one vote no matter the size. Rhode Island gets the same one vote that California does…

    Of course, the biggest question is whether or not the Republicans will cave as they often do in the face of media pressure.

    So we will see how this all plays out.

  174. @Wizard of Oz

    You: will late ballots count in court?

    Me: Already decided by court

    You: It’s Trump’s fault.

    _____________________________

    How does anyone communicate with such lunacy?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  175. It is difficult to know or to ensure that the ballots are actual ballots from registered voters. For example in the early hours of the morning of November 4 large ballot drops occurred in Michigan and Wisconsin that wiped out Trump’s lead. State officials have reported that people not registered—probably illegals—were permitted to vote. Postal service workers have reported being ordered to backdate ballots that suddenly appeared in the middle of the night after the deadline. These techniques were used to erase Trump’s substantial leads in the states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.

    What Roberts is apparently ignorant of (or dishonestly ignores), is the fact that in the 2016 election, Trump won by a very small margin in several key states. In MI the winning margin was only 0.3%, in WI it was 1% and in PA it was 1.2%.

    It was this narrow winning margin in these three states that put Trump in the White House, and this winning margin was significantly less than the number of Sanders supporters who voted for him in these three states. And according to 2020 election polls I’ve seen, only about 4% of Sanders supporters voted for him this time around compared to about 12% last time, or something like that.

    In light of this, isn’t it possible that Trump lost the election because his belligerent foreign policy cost him the support the antiwar voters (many of whom were Sanders supporters)?

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @GazaPlanet
  176. MarkinLA says:
    @BannedHipster

    The one saving grace in the Senate is Joe Manchin. He has already come out against packing the courts and other leftist nonsense. He is more conservative and many Republicans. Hopefully, he will do what his constituents want on immigration and vote against amnesties.

  177. The Democrats have NOT stolen the Presidential Election.

    The Democrats are TRYING to steal it.

    They will FAIL and are destroying themselves in the process.

    MSM and Big “Tech” are in deep trouble and will be broken up.

    Trump has at least four more years to go, perhaps EIGHT.

    Wait for it.

  178. Wally says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Here’s a major way it all worked:

    – precinct after precinct, there is an unmistakable pattern that the more people voted for Trump over Biden the greater the number of Trump votes the counting machines subtracted from Trump & gave to Biden.

    MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk&feature=youtu.be

    • Thanks: Twodees Partain, Miro23
    • Replies: @Miro23
  179. The MSM is harping that there was no fraud in the 2020 us vote, when we know there was was massive fraud.

    Likewise the MSM hypes the reality of covid virus when that is a hoax,

    https://davidicke.com/2020/11/13/there-is-no-virus-when-that-penny-drops-all-else-follows-david-icke-dot-connector-please-share/

    What the media says if the exact opposite of reality.

    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
  180. The fuss over two donkeys competing to outfawn each other in the service of their master, Zionist Israel, is simply beyond belief and comprehension. The real fraud is on the unsuspecting millions who claim to see the difference between the two donkeys. Shithole has arrived and is here to stay.

    • Agree: Harold Smith, annamaria
    • Replies: @mike99588
  181. @MLK

    What does

    the CIA after the 70s scandals when it was in the intelligence agency equivalent of the military’s “Stripes” period

    mean? And how does the linked Reuters article support your theory?

    I couldn’t think any less of Mr. Brennan, by the way.

    • Replies: @MLK
    , @The Soft Parade
  182. Ace says:
    @endthefed

    Quite. Ike dropped that bombshell and then departed for the golf links with zero concern for what he’d just revealed. “Fore!”

    • Agree: mike99588
  183. annamaria says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Thank you.

    The ZUSA style ‘democracy on the march’ has finally reached DC.

  184. Ace says:
    @Bragadocious

    What an interesting insight into your character.

  185. Notsofast says:
    @vinteuil

    You’re gonna hurt coronaviruses feelings if you keep talking mean to him.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  186. @The Real World

    ” The largest scamming is likely electronic …”

    This video explores that topic mathematically, i.e. Dominion software electronic vote flipping, in Michigan.

    “Dr.SHIVA LIVE: MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems.”

  187. Fritz says:
    @Notsofast

    Trump had mentioned Eisenhower’s warning in speeches recently. That’s a start.

  188. annamaria says:
    @Harold Smith

    Perhaps you need to compare Biden’s plan for his foreign policies with Trump’s’ record. Trump has aggravated war profiteers and ziocons by his intention ‘to bring soldiers home.’ In contrast, Biden is the full speed with his promises to teach lessons to China and Russia.

    Do you know why Tulsi Gabbard, the only decent person among the Dems, was shunned by the DNC? Guess. Here is a sample that might give you a cue: Tulsi Gabbard: “We must demand with one voice – bring our troops home from Iraq & Syria NOW” http://thesaker.is/tulsi-gabbard-we-must-demand-with-one-voice-bring-our-troops-home-from-iraq-syria-now/ — This is not what pleases the ziocons’ ears.

    Enters the cadaverous and war-loving Biden (and his drug-addict promiscuous son).
    Similar to traitorous Cheney, Joe Biden received five draft deferments from the Vietnam War. Like Cheney, Biden has always been eager to send the American military to harms ways and to cheerlead for the mass slaughter of civilians, whether brown (in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya) or white (in Ukraine).

    Trump may be repulsive. However, unlike the major war criminal Obama, Trump has not started a new war. This is his gravest sin from the perspective of the MIC and the MIC’s servile helpers — the intelligence services, the DNC, and the presstituting MSM. The war profiteers want their pounds of flesh.

    • Agree: Zarathustra, Robjil
    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  189. annamaria says:
    @Harold Smith

    “because his belligerent foreign policy”

    — Can you be specific? Had the wokes and ‘progressives’ flocked to elect the cadaverous Biden because the cadaverous Biden is a peacenik?

  190. @Yukon Jack

    How could you ever satisfy a Democrat that they stole an election? The question answers itself. They absolutely believe they have the right to steal elections and it is RACIST to oppose them.

  191. Here is a view of our Great Leader, also from an alternative media source (CP). Isn’t this what the UNZ Review is all about? Different perspectives from alternative sources?:

    “His mountainous orange hairpiece askew, purse strings tightening round his tiny puckered mouth, the sad friendless, cretinous, semi-literate, misogynistic, homophobic, islamophobic, xenophobic, closet racist, white supremacist and neo-Nazi, and flat-out serial-lying flabby ignoramus who cannot laugh and can hardly smile, applauds himself as he appears on stage, a waddling catalogue of psychotic disorders, a paranoid, delusional, self-obsessed, egotistical, schizophrenic, narcissistic, sociopathic con man, whose miniature mouth really does resemble an asshole. I challenge you to juxtapose close-ups of the two and try to tell the difference.”

    (PBS writer and producer)

    • Replies: @annamaria
  192. Vile Jewish Supremacist Power is so powerful and unhinged that it can even threaten a law firm from serving the president of the US. What Jewish Supremacist Power did to the Proud Boys, they now do to Trump. Can you imagine a law firm being bullied from serving Clinton or Obama?

    Nothing is possible in the US unless JSP is addressed. In the Land of the Rule of Lawyers, JSP got control of the lawyers.


  193. @Harold Smith

    It’s certainly likely that Trump lost some votes among so-called “peaceniks.” I didn’t vote for him. He received a lot more votes than last election.

    Let’s get real, if those Sanders crossover voters turned out for Trump this time, there would no be trouble producing enough fraudulent ballots to outnumber them. There would have been as many votes as necessary. Do you really doubt that they tried to steal 2016? Hillary was no mood to concede.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  194. Gapeseed says:
    @anon

    Wow, she’s good. Beautiful too. She’s got a future.

  195. @sally

    “Trump’s failure to gain a landslide this round happened because Trump did not do what Trump said Trump was going to do.”

    Sally,

    Trump had a landslide, but it was stolen/transferred to Biden by the Dominion Vote Counting software.

    Consider this, if you will:

    “Dr.SHIVA LIVE: MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems.”

  196. MLK says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Stripes” – the Bill Murray movie — references the post-Vietnam period in which the military admitted the bottom of the barrel. After all it’s scandals, the CIA did the same. Hence they ended up with psychopathic filth like Brennan not only allowed to join but able to rise to the top with the help of foreign intelligence services.

    As for the link, do you consider it typical for the CIA Director to make secret trips to Moscow? Look at the date, March 2016. Which just so happened to be the key period in the plot against Trump.

  197. Jews have completely thrown Trump under the bus, and he’s still sticking to the program, continuing to make threats on Iran. Is he really that dense? Even Netanyahu has moved on to Biden/Harris.

    Meanwhile, ((( they ))) are already working on Biden to declare certain groups “domestic terrorists”. Something tells me Proud Boys are top of the list. And all this time Trump never put antifa on the list. Let’s hear it from the FBI, “Proud Boys” is just an idea.

  198. @Notsofast

    Ain’t it a hell of a coincidence that ol’ coronavirus’
    handle matches the greatest manufactured crisis in all of human history?

    • Agree: Notsofast
  199. A real hope — although one that probably won’t materialize as most ‘conservatives’ are stupid — is that all the many people who voted for Trump will finally wake up and realize the the Big Capitalists, Deep State, and Military-Industrial-Complex are their enemy. The great contradiction of US politics has been that right-wing conservative types have been reliably supportive of the authoritarian elements of society. Too often, they supported the military-industrial-complex on grounds of ‘patriotism’ and ‘support the troops’. They supported the Deep State in the name of National Security and stability-and-order. They supported the rich on the basis of free capitalism vs oppressive socialism. So, even as the forces of the military, money, and management have become increasingly anti-conservative, anti-white, anti-rural, and anti-nationalist over the years, too many conservatives could be counted on to support the Powers-that-be in the name of USA-USA-USA patriotism, national security, respect for authority and law & order.

    Well… guess what? The powers-that-be pulled every dirty trick in the book to bring about the ‘new cold war’ with Russia, endless wars in the Middle East(in which rural Americans kill and get killed), the Covid economy, anti-white vitriol in media/academia, the Summer of Floyd, and a stolen election. Will conservative America finally wake up to the fact that the Big Money, Military-Industrial Complex, and the National Security apparatus(that should now be called the Global Hegemony machine) are totally against them?

    Imagine what would happen to US politics and power dynamics if most conservatives were to become anti-authoritarian and quasi-leftist and quasi-radical in their attitude about the ruling class? What if they began to realize that they are the New Palestinians under Jewish Supremacist Control? After Jewish Power gave them the horrible year of 2020, will they still shill for ‘Muh Israel’?

    The funny thing about US politics is the Powers-that-be depend heavily on conservatives who blindly, childishly, and knee-jerkedly support the systems of power. Conservatives have a natural inclination to turn mushy before social superiors, the powerful, the rich, the order, and etc. They are more likely to be trusting, respectful, and supportive of the Power. Now, this might be okay in a system that is pro-conservative. But does it make sense to support the power in a system that’s anti-conservative?

    If mainstream conservative types become like Justin Raimondo and Abby Martin in their view of the Power, then the Power will suffer. Even though the current Power has the support of ‘liberals’, it’s a shaky relationship because liberal-types like to see themselves as the critics of Power. So, even though most ‘liberals’ today are useless, there is still something within left-leaning thought that is distrustful of power. It’s like Michael Moore sucks up to Hollywood and rubs shoulders with the Liberal Rich but still stands for sticking it to the Man. In contrast, Rush Limbaugh has been about sucking up to the rich as the best of the best and support the troops in more wars, or Trust the Power. Even though Wall Street favored Biden 5 t0 1, you hear conservatives yammer about ‘the danger of socialism’. And even though Jews destroyed Trump, conservatives fret about ‘Biden will throw Israel under the bus’. Never mind weasel Netanyahu was the first one to congratulate Biden.

    But imagine a new kind of American Right consciousness that is conservative in values but ‘radical’ in opposition to the power. Closer in values to Pat Buchanan but closer in attitude to Michael Moore.

    American Right has been like the mule in American Politics. Much abused and maligned by the Power but dutifully serving it without much complaint. It’s in the nature of the Right to respect power and authority. But after 2020, isn’t it about time for real change? When the super-rich, the military industrial complex, and almost all figures of authority imposed Biden/Harris as the leaders of America, it’s about time for the Right to wake up and smell the coffee. Stop being a dumb mule. Learn to kick and disobey.

    But more likely, craven conzo types will get on their knees and plead, “You guys acted real bad in 2020. Will you please oh please promise you won’t act that again? Pretty please with cherry on top?And then, we will support your power, privilege, and wealth cuz we on the Right are natural ass-kissers of the Power.” Beyond pathetic.

  200. Anon[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Notsofast

    Kennedy, when he was a congressman, told the French they should get out of Viet Nam; they were imperialists . As soon as they left, the Americans went in. Probably thinking they could win when the French couldn’t.

  201. Whitewolf says:

    The Republican establishment can’t protect the perception of American democracy by pressuring Trump to concede. The theft was way too blatant. No one serious is buying Biden getting a record number of votes depsite struggling to attract a dozen people to his rallies. They can play along with the fraud all they want but it won’t change the perception of Bananamerica having a 3rd world style election system.

    If the Republicans don’t fight tooth and nail to expose voter fraud their base will not forgive them. Trump campaigned relentlessly to get people out to vote. They responded despite Trump not fulfilling many of his promises mainly because the alternative was so bad. If all their efforts were for nothing and they don’t see Republicans fighting for their votes to actually count they won’t bother turning out next time. Why should they if their votes can be easily dismissed with fraud by
    the Democrats that Republicans won’t even question?

    • Agree: GazaPlanet
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  202. nickels says:

    US ARMY SIEZES DOMINION SERVERS IN GERMANY.

    Nuke the EU. Slimey continental pigs need to vaporize now.

  203. Alden says:
    @Priss Factor

    Great post, I believe your best post ever. Agree with everything you wrote.

  204. @anon

    Moreover,

    Breitbart News
    South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem Wouldn’t Enforce a Biden National Lockdown – The office of South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) said Friday that it would not enforce a federal lockdown or mask mandate under a President Joe Biden after …

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/13/south-dakota-gov-kristi-noem-wouldnt-enforce-a-biden-national-lockdown/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29#

  205. nsa says:
    @Priss Factor

    “Limbaugh has been sucking up to the rich……”
    Hard to imagine a shittier human being. His Cuban maid reported the fool was eating as many as 50 oxies (hillbilly heroin) a day and blew his hearing out requiring a cochlear ear implantation to hear his rube boomer callers. She reported he doctor shopped 5 quacks to write oxy prescriptions and still sent her out onto the street to obtain more. Stone cold drug addict. The fool touted cigar smoking, ridiculed complaints about second hand smoke, and now has serious lung cancer…..karma is a bitch. And worst of all was his despicable war on the hapless turtles trying to nest on his beach. The selfish turd refused to turn out the lights at night in his waterfront mansion…..light that disorientated the turtles and prevented nesting. One turtle is worth more than a thousand turds like Limbaugh.

    • Agree: Ugetit, Robert Konrad
    • Thanks: Stonehands
  206. @Genrick Yagoda

    Answer: improve your command of educated English literacy.

    Every part of your comment misrepresents mine.

    1. Indeed a court has decided the matter. No question, unless and until there is a successful appeal to a higher court (but note my words above “probably correct” which you don’t seem to have noticed).

    2.You seem to have missed the point of my initial comment which pointed to PCR not having really adverted to the meaning of “fraud”. Accordingly you missed the relevance of my newly discovered point that, if fraud was to be discussed, then the fraudulent moral character of the *possible* deliberate delaying of the postal deliveries should also be weighed in the balance. One could add to that all deliberate steps taken to make voting by one’s opponents more difficult.

  207. Abbybwood says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I had to laugh at the response Venezuela, Russia and Iran had to say about our wonderful, fraudulent election 2020:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/05/what-a-spectacle-the-uss-enemies-revel-in-the-post-election-chaos

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  208. Alden says:
    @Plato's Dream

    Read the November 5th article by Dr Kevin MacDonald on this website. He has several graphs that prove Trump gained White women’s votes and lost the election because so many White men didn’t vote for Trump this election.

    White men defecting to Biden or just not voting cost Trump the election. It seems that the Messiah Robin Hood King Arthur figure of Trump didn’t pull off miracles to satisfy the White men looking for Big Daddy to save the White race.

    I sincerely hope the current election results will be overturned. But as it stands now, we’ve got Biden and Harris for the next 4 years. And Satan alone knows what horrors the Democrats have planned for Whites.

    Perhaps the White woman hating MEN OF UNZ could set up a site where they can get together and commiserate about all the women who done you guys wrong. Sometimes the comments about women belong in a group therapy session for lonely old bachelors and bitter divorced men.

    Write a letter to Psychology Today about your women problems instead of clogging the comments section with your “ poor poor pitiful me” women problems.

    Read the Kevin MacDonald November 5th article and learn which sex failed to vote for Trump. It was men, not women.

  209. Wally says:
    @Joe Levantine

    More on mass murdering, war criminal Eisenhower:

    [MORE]

    Eisenhower’s POW death camps:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12370&p=91796&hilit=eisenhower#p91796
    and even more:
    https://www.unz.com/?s=eisenhower&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

    BTW:
    Eisenhower, the “the terrible Swedish Jew” in his West Point yearbook:

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  210. TRM says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    “The inclination of Republicans is for Trump to protect America’s reputation by conceding the election. ”

    LMAO. NO NO NO. A thousand times no. PCR you are not listening to many people. NOBODY is saying “concede” for any reason much less “the good of the country’s reputation”. LOL.

    The vast majority of Republicans say “FIGHT to the finish”. Maybe you missed the interview with Trumps first wife?

  211. Alden says:
    @Muaddib

    About the postal service, I very much respect it as a competent functional efficient organization at least where I live.

    But the idea of suddenly dumping the responsibility of delivering millions of absentee ballots for 2 deliveries to the voter and back to the election authorities on the post office made any kind of fraud possible,

    There was no sinister plot to delay ballot delivery. Whatever mistakes were made by the PO were inevitable when those millions of ballots were dumped on it to deal with as best it could.

    The PO has plans for the Christmas and mother’s day rushes. They were made a long time ago. The crooked democrats should have informed the PO a year ago about their vote by mail plans so preparations could be made.

    The crooked corrupt democrats knew the PO would have problems dealing with mail ballots. So now they can blame any fraud on the PO.

    Whatever job you do, your business couldn’t deal with a mass dump of whatever. No organization can.

    If you’ve ever worked for a government agency or large organization you should know that operations just keep plugging along when a new CEO is installed. The Trump PO appointee didn’t have time to make instant changes. And you forget that the millions of mail ballots are the best means of election fraud.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Stonehands
  212. @annamaria

    Perhaps you need to compare Biden’s plan for his foreign policies with Trump’s’ record.

    Perhaps not. What exactly are Biden’s detailed foreign policy plans, how do you have access to them, and how is this at all relevant to the comment I made?

    Trump has aggravated war profiteers and ziocons by his intention ‘to bring soldiers home.’

    In your ill-considered purely speculative opinion that is. You sound like Roberts. First of all Trump’s term seems to be at an end and there are still troops in Syria, Afghanistan and elsewhere, that Trump has had years to bring home but didn’t. Moreover, Trump has gone out of his way to escalate tensions with Russia, China and Iran and we are now perhaps one incident away from WW3; so to the extent you somehow know Trump’s “intention” in the first place, how is it even relevant at this point in time? And who are are the “war profiteers” you refer to and how do you know they are/were “aggravated” by Trump’s disingenuous posturing?

    In contrast, Biden is the full speed with his promises to teach lessons to China and Russia.

    In the comment you are responding to, I said nothing about Biden. Why do you want to discuss Biden with me? I don’t know what Biden will do with regard to Russia and China and neither do you; we will have to wait and see, just like we had to wait and see what Trump would actually do (or refuse to do) vis-a-vis his campaign rhetoric, right?

    But what I can say with a high degree of certainty is this: It is Trump that brought Biden to power. You imply that Biden will be worse than Trump; if this turns out to be true the blame can be laid squarely on Trump. Nobody had to cheat Trump out of the election because with his betrayals of his supporters and his election mandate, Trump handily defeated himself.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper, mike99588
    • Replies: @annamaria
  213. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:

    “What are you going to do about it?” – Tho. Nast

  214. @GazaPlanet

    It’s more than just “peaceniks” that disapprove of Trump’s “foreign policy”; you don’t have to be some kind of an ideologue to not want to go back to the most dangerous days of the cold war, right?

    And it’s not just Sanders supporters/antiwar voters that Trump alienated, but senior citizens. Trump’s loss of support from the over 65 crowd was apparently a significant factor, especially in MI, WI and PA and this was known before the election.

    “Those are national polls, but even in swing states that will decide the election, Trump looks to be in trouble. Eleven surveys conducted over the past few weeks by AARP show Biden up big among voters age 65 and older: 18 points in Michigan, 17 in Wisconsin, 9 in Pennsylvania—the three states that put Trump over the top in 2016. He’s also up 7 points in North Carolina. The president is up in one swing state: Georgia, by 8. The two candidates are statistically tied in two states: Florida and Arizona.”

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/have-seniors-turned-on-trump-2020-10-27

    And I have no numbers to quote but there are no doubt many people who turned against Trump because of his reckless and costly trade war with China. He hammered the farmers and he hammered many U.S. consumers who have no choice but to buy things like tools and hardware from China. In fact something like 3500 U.S. companies are now suing the Trump administration over his tariffs.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-tariffs/some-3500-u-s-companies-sue-over-trump-imposed-chinese-tariffs-idUSKCN26G31G

    Trump’s done a lot of damage and angered lots of people; he didn’t need any help in losing the election.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
    , @GazaPlanet
  215. Seems like standing in long lines to vote in booths was the superspreader event of the century. No mystery the covid rates are rocketing in red states now. Glad I mailed in my vote, I never thought this pandemic was fake. It leaked right out of a level 4 biolab ffs. We just don’t know which one.

    • LOL: TheTrumanShow
  216. Whitewolf says:
    @Corvinus

    The fact of the matter is that Trump and a core group of allies are aiming to keep his loyal base of supporters on his side even in defeat.

    Very plausible.

    The numbers are legitimate until they are proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are illegitimate.

    You mean like Russian interference?

    And the fact that Republican candidates did better than Trump in down-ballot races means that voters split their votes. Enough Republican voters had made up their minds in the weeks before the election that Trump was not what they expected of a president and voted accordingly.

    So you think republican voters thought Biden was more acceptable as a president than Trump? Or you think democrat voters thought that gop reps were more acceptable than dem reps but still wanted Biden as president?

  217. @Alfred

    Did I read ever such stupid allegations? Maybe not. Civil war? The left in the USA? The one who wrote that has some serious psychiatric issues.

    By the way, Trump the assassin:

    https://original.antiwar.com/allegra_harpootlian/2020/01/12/from-obama-to-trump-the-escalation-of-drone-warfare/

    Biden will make no difference.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  218. “The Democrats Have Stolen the Presidential Election”

    Tit for tat. The Republicans Have Stolen the Presidential Election in 2016.

    And this is the country which wants t give lessons of democracy to other countries?

    Loukachenko must be laughing. He should sponsor massive demonstrations in DC! Asking for a national strike until Trump will be re-elect!

  219. Rogue says:
    @Olivier1973

    The Republicans Have Stolen the Presidential Election in 2016

    Well now, you’ll have to explain that a bit more clearly.

    If you mean the “Russian collusion” nonsense, that’s been thoroughly debunked. I’m aware there are still some morons (and liars) who desperately cling onto that non-conspiracy, but it’s got no more legs to stand on.

    If you refer to the popular vote, where Trump polled fewer numbers, so what? The system has always relied on the electoral college, and so sheer numbers of popular votes do not decide the election. You might not agree with that, but it’s how the system works.

    If you’re referring to some other means by which the election was stolen in 2016, let’s hear it.

  220. Ugetit says:
    @ConqueringFools

    In reality the idiots are those who believe in the system enough to think their vote matters.

  221. Rogue says:
    @N30rebel

    The MSM, in support of the globalist agenda, have been calling Trump a fascist, racist, xenophobe, misogynist, homophobe and, most ridiculously, an anti-semite.

    Indeed, according to the MSM and big tech, and lefty shills generally, Trump and Putin are two halves of the same Hitler.

    And you actually believe this crap?

    • Replies: @N30rebel
  222. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkU

    Reply to commend 126, MarkU, https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-democrats-have-stolen-the-presidential-election/#comment-4282491
    Thesis: The US appears to be following the fall of the USSR pretty closely, and we are right about at the point where the USSR’s “establishment”, the Marxist Communists, tried a coup. The US coup will fail in the same way that the Marxist coup failed. See also: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/inter-election-period-breakdown-strange-moment-us-history concerning the present, and https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch , which expresses a somewhat similar theory of process, but considerably more forcibly than I have.

    Your reply is well executed pilpul. It attempts to divert the discussion into non-rational avenues. Your reply amounts to saying that my post says nothing (“no thesis”), and that my post contradicts conventional political wisdom. I asked for “no pilpul”.

    The post’s thesis is as stated above.

    Conventional political wisdom was, one month ago, that election results represent the “will of the people”, yet this election has not done so. Conventional wisdom now appears to be political lies, so appeal to conventional wisdom is no longer rational. You finish your reply by blaming “Jewish bankers”, a fairly obvious straw man / decoy. My original post blames nobody, and the issue is a diversion.
    Third – here is a detailed discussion of your points. Just for an exercise, I’ve addressed each one.

    [MORE]

    Your comment was very informative but lacks a clearly stated thesis.

    The comment is pointing out an historical analogy. The thesis is that there appears to have been a common process active in the US and the USSR. It is possible that this process, seizure of capital flows by government and diversion of these flows to political use, is universal in industrial economies. This is not a new thesis – see Spufford, _Red Plenty_. My contribution (if there is any) is to outline the behavior of one particular case, a case of some topical interest.

    lacks . . .any attribution of agency, who for example was behind the assassination of president Kennedy and why?

    I am describing a system that offers a set of incentives rather than conducting a forensic analysis. You do much the same thing (by allusion, granted) when you compare a command economy to a mixed economy. What specific people, after all, actually command capitalism or, for that matter, a “command economy”? You can name people at any time, But the people change and the system continues acting in about the same way.
    As for the Kennedy assassination, the man had so many enemies that it’s hard to say which one finally got him. He tried the Machiavellian technique of destroying those who put the him in power. Granted that POTUS Kennedy had little choice if he were to establish the fiscal and organizational stability (and the establishment of his dynasty) that he wanted, the fact remains that his gambit failed.

    a mixed economy is the only really viable economic model because: –
    1) It is the only model that keeps the power divided. If all the power is controlled by party ideologues or by financial institutions then corruption is the inevitable result. In a proper mixed economy where the infrastructure is developed, operated and controlled by the state (i.e. officials elected by the people) and the rest of the economy is based on a free market, the worst consequences of undue concentration of power can be minimized.

    I also used to think that, but look around you. The mixed market segued with no obvious discontinuities into the current control by party ideologues or by financial institutions. One can say that the worst consequences of undue concentration of power can be minimized, but in the US and USSR it was not minimized, it was maximized in that all national income was put into political goals and the physical industrial capacity was lost. Even the US “Tech companies” are now population control systems, and provide a massively political service.
    The similarity to the USSR shows up intime scales: From the time scales of the USSR and US, 70 odd years to 90 odd years, the mixed market might have decayed less quickly than the command economy, but not much less quickly. Diversion of capital flow to political ends did the damage in both societies, and took about the same amount of time.

    Infrastructure is a long-term thing, capitalism does not ‘do’ long term very well. It is always more profitable in the short term to allow the infrastructure to decay and then move on to a place with a better infrastructure.

    Industrial revolution in England and the United States produced infrastructure rather well. To an outside observer, it would appear that US Capitalism (I prefer “the business establishment”) supported the Civil War because it wanted to build a Transcontinental Railroad and the South wouldn’t permit that. Note that large scale construction started during the Civil War. The capital improvements of the New Deal would not pay for themselves given the engineering capabilities of the time. Such politically oriented capital investments were common between all three of the competing systems (Communism, Parliamentary with dominant business community, Fascism) in the 1930s (W. Schivelbusch, _Three New Deals: Reflections on Roosevelt’s America_). Some of these investments pai off, others failed on a great scale. You may remember the “climatic drying trend” in the Southwest publicized a few years back. Should prove real, much of the Southwest would have to be abandoned and the failure would be as great as that of N. Khrushchev’s “New Lands” initiative or Mao’s Banqiao Dam failure (https://www.theepochtimes.com/mao-zedong-era-dam-collapse-was-the-worst-in-history_2232277.html). In fact, many systems can produce capital improvements – See J. Gimpel, _The Medieval Machine_). Nor are all business projects successful – supposedly the TVA was made possible by the post-Civil War devastation of the conquered Tennessee Valley during the Gilded Age.

    Capitalism has no inherent loyalty to the people or the nations they serve

    The industrial revolution was made possible by the Protestant effort to be “good stewards of God’s creation”, see: lecture

    . For an obvious example, many of the early British concerns and their invention of the modern factory were rooted in concern for the paupers: It is the current stability-seeking government that has not inherent loyalty to aught save themselves.

    The outsourcing of US and European industries to other parts of the world has been disastrous for the working people of the US and Europe, though profitable for capitalists of course.

    Outsourcing happened during the “mixed economy” era, as a government program – part of an attempt to build up China as a counterweight to the USSR, and to finance welfare programs by trading capital goods for cheap imports. The businessmen who conducted the transfer are` better seen as government agents than capitalist, even under Marxist theory.

    Communism does not ‘do’ freedom very well, freedom of speech, thought or association. If all the power is in the hands of political ideologues then stagnation and oppression result

    True. Unfortunately, we are in a mixed economy that has also produced the same result. The West has, from about 1500 to about 1945, been divided into many political units in competition. This has produced disasters, but also adaptive change. All other societies in the world were, during most of this interval, willing to sacrifice anything to ensure stability. After 1945, the West (with the USA as suzerain) has done the same, yielding a remarkably similar stagnation and oppression.

    Just imagine if all the effort that has been poured into the military after the fall of the USSR had instead been spent on renewing the infrastructure of the western world.

    What I remember from the 1960s is the military manned space program being cancelled, along with Bell Labs and the Bell System’s proposal to develop and field a global satellite telephone system, apparently so that the money could be spent on shoring up urban finances and so that “America would not get too far ahead of the rest of the world”. That’s the actual phrase I remember from back then. My point being that I was not the military or the corporations acting independently that gave us our present stasis (stasis: stalemated civil war in the original Greek), it was political control of capital per se. The military was not as lavishly funded after 1991 as you might think, which is one of the reasons the US is well behind the Russian Federation in weapons, and the only major military power not to have hypersonic weapons. Several other indicators, such as use of mercenaries, show that the US military capabilities are not good, but I won’t discuss that further. Search Google Scholar for a very old paper, con Creveld’s “The Fate of the State”, _Parameters_, 1996, or look for his same-titled book on Amazon. The trends he described have pretty much continued.

    So, who is responsible for the mess we are in today? I say it is the (mainly Jewish) bankers.

    This is a “devil theory”. One takes complaints, says “The Devil is responsible, so why don’t you go to Hell and confront him?” The complainant either shuts up or wanders off trying to find Hell and doesn’t bother you again.
    Here are just a few reasons why considering the Jewish community as devils responsible for everything bad (“the mess we are in today”) is a waste of time. It’s a bit hard on the Jewish ego, but so be it. highly stable and collectivist and ruthless Jewish community has profited mightily from the political control of capital funds, serving (as it has historically done) as an intermediate between government and the governed, an intermediate that won’t talk back about things like “counterproductive policies”. The Jewish community is not responsible for the mess today, however. They have aided and abetted it, but did not originate the current system, nor are they the prime drivers.
    The Ottoman Empire was not dominated by Jews, and Ottoman society invented the “millet” system (see: https://www.thoughtco.com/social-structure-of-the-ottoman-empire-195766 ) Our current state is largely attributable to the big city political machines of the Gilded Age, and their expulsion of all other New Deal coalition members after WW II. This urban political machine dominance (reinforced by migration to urban areas during the post-WW II global population increase) prefers stability to all other things. That big city political machines had a substantial Jewish component, and that component is emphasized (as it always has been back when the Jews were estate managers and servants of the Crown) so that it seems to be the only element in the coalition. They are not. The original New Deal coalition included immigrants from southern and Eastern Europe, areas influenced by the Ottoman elements of the Byzantines tradition. These immigrants considered ethnic loyalty and absolute government and low-level conflict between ethnic groups as the “common sense” ways of doing things (Lord knows I saw enough of that In the Northeast during the 1960s). These groups have been displaced on the Left by Third World groups and Blacks, but the new groups also believe in ethnic cohesion, ethnic conflict, and absolute government. The Jews simply remained in the original urban coalition while it was replaced, element by element, around them. Remember the old Yiddish summary of Judaism: “So smart, but so stupid”.
    Note that neither Harris nor Biden nor even Obama before them, are Jewish. In practice, contemporary Jews do not rise to, or at least do not retain, supreme political power. They are always metaphorically servants of the Crown. Remember what happened to the Jewish Bolsheviks. Living up to the “chosen people” designation in Judaism has the perverse effect of making Jews publicly display their power and influence.
    This Jewish public display is important in that it hides much of the Left’s support, and that makes much of the Left’s support impossible to counter or even discuss. I’ve found the taboo elsewhere of mentioning Left wing Jewish influence is actually weaker than the taboo against discussing Left-wing non-Jewish influence on unz.com.

    Either way, they intend to establish an oligarchy which is going to be well-nigh impossible to remove, that cannot be allowed to happen.

    Well, “cannot” might be a bit strong, since the goal is physically possible. They are attempting to establish a millet system, which was historically very stable. If the world were divided up into a stable Chinese middle kingdom and its subordinates, and a (perhaps Islamic) millet system, I doubt the Jewish establishment or the rest of the current Left would have any objections. I’d strongly agree with “must not” rather than “cannot”, however.

    As for “well night impossible to remove”, my historical analogy was an attempt to show that the Left’s coup attempt is analogous to the 1991 hard line communist coup attempt in the USSR. That coup attempt failed.

    The same, but much strengthened, instruments of force and terror were available to the 1991 coup as were available to Lenin in 1917. In 1991, though, the instruments failed. The current coup attempt has the same (but much strengthened) instruments as the 1960s US revolution, and these instruments are failing too.

    This is not to say that the current coup will fall of itself, but rather that defeating it is quite possible. We appear to be in agreement about the desirability of defeating the current coup. If the current coup can be defeated now, casualties among the general population will be much less than it if wins now.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  223. Anonymous[641] • Disclaimer says:
    @Olivier1973

    You got that right. Biden must go! Or, Trump must go! If he prevails.

    Isn’t it ironic that this country has far more dastardly leaders than any of the countries (both shithole and world power varieties) that we incessantly badmouth and frequently rain widespread death upon with the mighty military machine we support by neglecting the needs of our own citizenry.

  224. @Alden

    Note that I wrote specifically about female SUBURBANITES, not all white women. Based on the stats that are floating around, the former category did switch in significant numbers to Biden in several large metropolitan areas, including Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Philly and Las Vegas – the states where Trump “lost” narrowly. I made no statement about based rural women in red counties, so don’t ascribe to me that which I didn’t say.

  225. @Whitewolf

    I voted for Joe Biden and GOP state legislature downballot in Wisconsin, so — yes. The vast majority of Americans are NeverTrumpers. It seems clear to me that Putin hacked the election and stuffed ballot boxes as a feint to sew chaos.

  226. Ugetit says:
    @Wally

    I think it would be fair to say the Eisenhower could be considered an upstart from the mob. An unprincipled mediocre wannabee, somewhat along the lines of Churchill.

    Can anyone guess how upstarts (Billy Clinton was a classic in that regard), find themselves in positions of power?

    Here are a few clues.:

    A people left to itself, i.e., to upstarts from its midst, brings itself to ruin…

    The blind cannot lead the blind without bringing them into the abyss; consequently, members of the mob, upstarts from the people even though they should be as a genius for wisdom, yet having no understanding of the political, cannot come forward as leaders of the mob without bringing the whole nation to ruin.

    Here’s another clue that explains how a nobody, an upstart, like Eisenhower found himself at the top

    … we, and we only, shall provide them with a leader and, of course, direct them along the road that leads to our goal.

    And another,

    MacArthur considered Eisenhower incompetent yet he rose to power, as did Churchill, as a protégé of the warmonger and dictator behind the curtain, Bernard Baruch.

    Source:https://fathersmanifesto.net/eisenhower.htm

    More about the “MIC” here,

    http://www.tomatobubble.com/id1119.html

  227. Ugetit says:
    @Abbybwood

    Thanks.

    Hard to dispute any of it.

    “The [US] state department puts out statements that say: ‘In this country we don’t recognise the election. In that country we don’t like the election. In the other country we don’t like this or that,’” Maduro said, adding that the US would be better off focusing on its own problems.

    Bravo, Maduro!

    “Who’s the banana republic now?” wondered the frontpage headline of Colombia’s Publimetro, one of many Latin American newspapers whose editors thought the term – a US-originated slur that was inspired by Honduras and has haunted Latin America for decades – perfectly captured the electoral turmoil playing out in the US.

    Since bananas don’t commonly grow in the US, may I propose the slightly more appropriate slur, “turnip republic”? Other suggestions welcome.

  228. @Olivier1973

    “Tit for Tat”

    Another German know-it-all : deutscher “Besserwisser” voicing his stupid opinion. The world has suffered enough under German know-it-all ism over the last hundred-plus years, “am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen”, so why don’t you lunatic German “Besserwisser” just shut the fuck up for a couple of hundred years, as we Americans do not need or desire your ignorant, idiotic BS.

    AJM

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  229. Ugetit says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    … as we Americans do not need or desire your ignorant, idiotic BS.

    Especially since we have produced, and are evidently capable of producing, limitless supplies of it ourselves for practically ever.

  230. Corvinus says:
    @Whitewolf

    “You mean like Russian interference?”

    That already has been proven.

    “So you think republican voters thought Biden was more acceptable as a president than Trump?”

    It is more than likely that Trump alienated enough Republican voters with his antics that Biden was deemed to be the lesser of two evils.

    “Or you think democrat voters thought that gop reps were more acceptable than dem reps but still wanted Biden as president?”

    It is more than likely that Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans split their ticket–Biden for president and GOP representatives/Senators.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  231. KenH says:
    @Wally

    – How do you know that?

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-missing-white-vote-in-wisconsin-lost-trump-the-state/

    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/11/politics/election-analysis-exit-polls-2016-2020/

    You’re free to believe what you want. In absolute numbers the Repubs and Dems both received more white votes than in 2016 but when you break it down into percentages for president Trump lost some white support among white men from 2016 which was fatal.

    There’s no doubt that supposed “software glitches” flipped votes from Trump to Biden but thus far only 6000 in one Michigan county has been proven although I believe there are more and vote flipping due to “software glitches” is possibly an issue in Georgia as well. But it’s highly doubtful that 150K votes or more were flipped in Michigan which is about the difference in the election.

  232. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    Does anybody know any actual facts about Hammer and Scorecard? I see all kinds of garbled mentions of it, as surveillance, as election-stealing, none with documentation. It’s attributed to CIA through a purported whistleblower but nobody who talks about his testimony links to it. The only relevant mention of scorecard in Wikileaks seems to be some kind of contribution database in the DNC emails.

    Is this random bullshit?

  233. N30rebel says:
    @Rogue

    If you would just take off your rose colored glasses, you too would be calling a turd a turd.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  234. A very important interview by Lou Dobbs of Sidney Powell

  235. @Priss Factor

    Excellent comment! But it only excellently scratching the surface.
    In four year there will be again Republican administration.
    Republican administration first act was to by presidential order undo what Democratic administration did. Now coming the Democratic administration by presidential order will undo every thing what Republican administration did. And so US political and economic system is not going ahead it is going in endless circle. So US is like car spinning the wheels going nowhere.
    That is what Jewish overlords want.Jews want two party precious democracy that they can control.
    I can guarantee you that in four year from now when elections come they will support the Republicans.
    China is one party system and look how successful they are. Some idiotic Democrats think that Jews are going to support always them. They are retarded.
    Jews by tooth and nail want to maintain two party system. That is the guarantee of their rule.
    I dislike Democrats because they are crooks but it would please me more if Democrats finally would destroy totally the Republicans , and become one unchallenged party ruling USA.
    ……………………………………
    But than US is now nearing economic collapse so everything is more or less futile.
    ……………………………………
    Ref: The golden rule: Who has the gold rules.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  236. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:

    Ha. Gomert goes there. Scytl is a CIA proprietary.

    https://greatgameindia.com/us-military-raided-scytl-germany/

    • Replies: @Lee
  237. Rogue says:
    @N30rebel

    If you would just take off your rose colored glasses.

    Nah, don’t wear ’em.

    First of all, I’m not American, so couldn’t vote anyway. Secondly, like so many on the “right”, I’m disappointed with the Orange Man. Yes, he’s an egotist and a bullshitter – this we know. But he is not all the vile things and slurs the media and the loony lefties keep saying he is.

    And the alternative to him is a creepy grandpa with early dementia. And his running-mate is deep into identity politics (which is just another way of saying “screw you straight White man”).

    At least Mike Pence is a Christian man with actual principles. If something happened to the Donald I would not feel bad about Pence taking over. However, the Kamala cackler taking over from sleepy, creepy Joe is quite something else.

    And bear in mind, if this was an election in Guatemala or Swaziland, it wouldn’t matter and be none of my concern. But who takes power in the USA, Russia etc is the whole World’s concern.

  238. @Reger

    Burntcock’s late brother was all about maintaining the 911 Inside Job lie of it being done by 19 Arabs with boxcutters shutting down American air-defenses (quite magically) for 2.5 hours. The site on which Patrick spews his liberal half-digested lunch is also the prime haunt of an old Trotskyite of my acquaintance who also believes in the official 911 government/media conspiracy theory.

    Reger, why bother the folks here if you are a true-believer in the status quo. Sure, there are some loose cannons who post here. But if you get your mind outta the bowling alley’s default mode, you will discover that the Unz Review also includes a number of the most independent-minded deep thinkers from all over the planet. I have learned more from this proportion of posters here than via any other medium. It is a site for postgrad studies investigating and sharing insights into the reality of our current experience of these latter days of Kali Yuga.

    If you happen to have a scintilla of open-mindedness and willingness to climb outta the box and shatter the matrix, UnZ Review is a wonderful learning environment. You merely need to discriminate between those types who cannot jack their rocks anywhere else on the net and the individuals who happily share their studied perspectives while continuing their own process of discovery.

  239. @Wizard of Oz

    Show me the signed affidavit of one single postal worker claiming the Trump campaign “delayed” the ballots. Because there are more than dozen of affidavits from postal workers alleging malfeasance of different sorts, all on the part of the ZOG toward the Trump campaign in favor of the Biden campaign.

    So my post to you was perfectly clear and accurate. You suffer from TDS.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  240. N30rebel says:

    But who takes power in the USA, Russia etc is the whole World’s concern.

    And it’s a sad World: Capitalists, Communists, Fascists, Christians and Politicians, oh my! Sociopaths all. Emerged in our myths and tribal allegiances, we have fought our way to the present with no understanding that we have turned our global home into a bloodthirsty garbage dump for thirty pieces of silver. My only solace is that the end is near and we’ll never reach and populate another planet with the virus that has afflicted us from the start. Cheers.

    https://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/e-sermons/humcan.html

  241. @Greta Handel

    Not so slow, MLK. GM’s golden boy Robt. McNamara had it going on during VietNam. We called them “Mac’s Dirty 100,000” Truly wonders of modern society whom Mac had assembled by combing the gutters and prisons. Those who could really pull the trigger went black or rogue, compunctions none. Their ilk is the pride of the toolshed these days, e.g.: Brennan.

  242. mike99588 says:
    @Justsaying

    One is a Zion kissing conman that appeals to some norms; the other comes with Alexandria “Killing Fields” OC and friends to storm troop, maybe “re-educate”, and maybe bbq you …

    If you can’t you see a difference, maybe there is a plastic bag around your head in the future, if you aren’t one of the ones doing it.

  243. AReply says:
    @annamaria

    Trump never held out a promise to anyone but himself. In 2016 this was just as obvious as it is now.

    It was understandable 4 years ago that a public that is pandered and led around on an ideological leash by network TV — esp FoxN — was only dimly aware that something has to change not aware of the looming illness due to heavy self medication.

    And the USA consumer doesn’t decide what’s on the menu. The corp purveyor tends to offer what they can sell at greatest margins. The larger the firm, the more refined the machinery of sating desires.

    But now anyone can see regardless of their doping what the GOP and Trump are about. There are no principles at work for then beyond greed.

    Trump is rendered political lard with an IFF McRib of rebellion chemical flavor added. He causes diabeetees. Yes it tasted so Krispy Kreme sweet and delicious, and now the world in on insulin. Pigs coming and going.

    For even the most FoxN savaged mind there can be no doubt that Trump offers only the artificial scent of hope which is a cologne with his BO, it’s a personal touch.

    Thr worst aspects of the Democrats in 2000s are a product of the GOP and a generational marketing plan based on keeping the wound of the Civil War forever un-healed.

    Trump never offered any hope of redemption for this deep laceration in the national spirit.

    All those who wonder about the deep state could start by looking into Pappy Bush and sons. They are known to deliver for their party over the long haul.

    I’ve always wondered how Trump just walked down the middle of the field in 2015 to seize the nomination out of nowhere. I saw some signs of how it works in the Halprin doc based on the Showtime’s Carnival (Look, I’m trapped in a TV like everyone, omg) but its smoke+reflections. Like when Trump re-tweets himself.

    Luckily, USA is relexively democratic even if very unfair.

    But note to Fox nerds, it takes some effort on your part beyond flipping the channel. God help if it’s just about heading over to Newsmax

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  244. @Harold Smith

    He had plenty of “help” out the door, and I didn’t know “peacenik” was an insult.

    The Democrats cheat every election. Every single one. This one more than ever. Brazenly.

    The idea that they don’t cheat is ridiculous. To be against them cheating is “racist.” Just like having poll observers watching what they’re doing, it’s like glass over the ethnic products. RACIST.

    If you can’t admit the Democrats cheat, you’re likely to be some sort of Left-wing ideologue.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  245. @Harold Smith

    The polls were wrong, but people who deny and defend brazen cheating will also tell us the polls are correct. What they won’t admit, is that they are siding with the party of mass voter fraud, which they support.

    Right before the election, the same people now pretending there isn’t mass cheating were saying the 2016 polls were actually right. There is no use talking with these people.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  246. Lee says:
    @anon

    Anon posted:

    Ha. Gomert goes there. Scytl is a CIA proprietary.

    https://greatgameindia.com/us-military-raided-scytl-germany/

    Scytl denies any involvement :

    [MORE]

    Fact Checking Regarding US Elections: Debunking Fake News
    November 13, 2020 | General
    Following several erroneous statements that have been published in digital and social media, Scytl would like to clarify the following:

    The technologies implemented by Scytl in the US are both hosted and managed within the US, by a local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
    We do not tabulate, tally or count votes in the US
    We do not provide voting machines in the US
    We did not provide online voting to US jurisdictions for the US elections.
    We do not have servers or offices in Frankfurt
    The US army has not seized anything from Scytl in Barcelona, Frankfurt or anywhere else
    We are not owned by George Soros and have never been connected to him
    We are not tied to Smartmatic, SGO, Dominion or Indra
    We have no ties with Russia either

    https://www.scytl.com/en/fact-checking-regarding-us-elections-debunking-fake-news/#

  247. @DanFromCT

    I think that democrat vote fraud goes back at least as far as FDR’s first campaign, and has always been supported by news media. Even before then, HL Mencken made observations on presidential campaigns that were observations on media complicity in politics.

    FDR was effectively canonized by newspapers and radio so that after his death, all criticism of him was stifled even more than it was when he was alive. Roosevelt was not universally admired, and in fact was pretty well despised by a fair number of newspaper writers and editors, to say nothing of the very real hatred of him among the populace, because of the war, and because of his deliberate extension of the depression.

    Col. Elliot W. Springs of South Carolina, a WWI ace pilot, wrote a book about his post WWI career in textile manufacturing, “Clothes Make the Man” and including some very sharp criticism of FDR and his dictatorial agencies made possible by the NRA. After FDR’s death it seems that much of the media became joined at the hip with the democrats.

    As for Ron Paul, I’m nowhere near as impressed with him and his half-stepping “criticism” of party politics as many here are. Clearly, both parties are too rotten to redeem. The electoral process was, after all, made into a totally rotten institution during the military occupation of the former Confederate states (euphemistically called ‘Reconstruction’) by the republican party.

    The whole mess goes too far back for me to track, but both parties are on board with it, the democrats in stealing elections and the republicans defending them and giving them cover.

  248. @anon

    Good observations. You really should pick a screen name, though. I once made the mistake of clicking ‘ignore’ on one “anon”, and a whole slew of them disappeared. Any name will do.

  249. annamaria says:
    @Robert Konrad

    — It is curious if this PBS writer and producer was able to notice any of Biden’s amazing verbal escapades. Can this PBS writer and producer spot the obvious signs of rot in the Bidens’ family? Biden is a moral corpse. His son Hunter is like his father.

  250. Notsofast says:
    @Corvinus

    dear coronavirus,
    i have been told not to feed the trolls but i cannot help but ask about the russian interference in 2016. are you referring to the steele dossier that clinton and the dnc fabricated from known russian disinformation in order to divert attention from the 30,000 emails she illegally destroyed?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  251. @Genrick Yagoda

    Try to display, or even recognise, a little scepticism. And self sexamination would be a good start when you attempt to set up [totally fallaciously in the context] some sort of standard of evidence by reference to “signed affidavt[s] of [a] postal worker[s]” – as though they would know anything relevant about e.g budgetary constraints on the postal service. Can you “show me” affidavits? Of course not. You are relying on hearsay which you have not even been able to cross-examine.

    Try and get it into your head that, at the outset, I simply pointed to the limitations of PCR’s understanding of fraud.

  252. You’ve read all those Comments ? Read too much turgid insanity on top of PCR’s humourless rant. Try this:

  253. @GazaPlanet

    Win if you can. Lose if you must. But always cheat.

    Old Yankee Proverb

    • Thanks: GazaPlanet
  254. @Whitewolf

    They responded despite Trump not fulfilling many of his promises …

    I keep seeing this being said but I haven’t been able to get anyone saying it to detail just what promises these were. How about you? Can you document even one of the promises Trump did not fulfill – let alone many of them?

    It’s my position he pretty much did manage to complete everything he said on several occasions he intended to do. I don’t think prosecuting Hillary Clinton, for example, was one of them.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Whitewolf
    , @AReply
  255. Corvinus says:
    @Notsofast

    Dear reallytooslow, I am not a troll, just a frequent commenter. The Steele Dossier was spot on in a number of areas. While she COULD have destroyed those emails, the focus is on Trump and his clear malfeasance, given how a number of his close associates have been arrested and/or charged and/or convicted.

  256. Corvinus says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “Can you document even one of the promises Trump did not fulfill – let alone many of them?”

    Easy, two come to mind. The wall was not built and he failed to deliver on is 1 trillion dollar infrastructure plan.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  257. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “Your reply is well executed pilpul. It attempts to divert the discussion into non-rational avenues. Your reply amounts to saying that my post says nothing (“no thesis”), and that my post contradicts conventional political wisdom. I asked for “no pilpul”.”

    He offered a refutation that you conveniently label at “pilpul”. Typical, on your part.

  258. annamaria says:
    @Harold Smith

    You are trying to play two-party politics a la ziocon party of deciders (the MIC + financial Squid). Here is the bitter truth: “‘Forever war’ returns: Biden’s Pentagon team puts the military-industrial complex back in command” https://www.rt.com/usa/506737-biden-pentagon-team-military-industry/ War-profiteers and war-criminals have united to bring the cadaverous Joe Biden to power.

    Leading the team is Kathleen Hicks, an undersecretary of defense in the Obama administration, and an employee of the Cen­ter for Strate­gic and Inter­na­tion­al Stud­ies (CSIS), a think tank funded by a host of NATO governments, oil firms, and weapons makers Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and General Atomics. The latter firm produces the Predator drones used by the Obama administration to kill hundreds of civilians in at least four Middle-Eastern countries.

    Also on the team are Susanna Blume and Ely Ratner, who work for the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) … funded by Google, Facebook, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin.
    Three more team members – Stacie Pettyjohn, Christine Wormuth and Terri Tanielian – were most recently employed by the RAND corporation, which draws funding from the US military, NATO, several Gulf states, and hundreds of state and corporate sources.

    Michele Flournoy is widely tipped to lead the Pentagon under Biden. …Flournoy is the co-founder of CNAS [Center for a New American Security], and served in the Pentagon under Obama and Bill Clinton. … Flournoy helped craft the 2010 troop surge in Afghanistan, a deployment of 100,000 US troops that led to a doubling in American deaths and made little measurable progress toward ending the war.

    Flournoy is a modern-day cannibal similar to Clintons and Obamas.

    During her tenure in the Clinton administration, Flournoy was the principal author of the May 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR), which advocated the unilateral use of military power in defense of US interests.

    She is the worst kind that was so well explained by the honorable Major General Smedley Butler:

    I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I suspected I was just part of the racket all the time. Now I am sure of it.

    Flournoy and the likes will do anything to other humans to please Big Business, Wall Street, and the bankers.

    In 2011, in the midst of the Arab Spring, Flournoy, then Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, helped persuade President Obama to intervene militarily in Libya.

    The bloodthirsty immoral Flournoy has degrees in art and international relations. She is an ignoramus! But she knows very well how to be comfortably close to the money and power:

    In 2017, Flournoy, along with Antony Blinken, US Deputy Secretary of State in the Obama administration, co-founded WestExec Advisors, a strategic advisory firm for international companies and financial institutions addressing geopolitical factors that affect their business strategy and investment portfolios.

    • Thanks: TheTrumanShow
  259. Richard B says:

    Calls are being made for the arrest of Tucker Carlson, the only mainstream journalist who supported President Trump.

    They won’t need to do anything that dramatic. They’ll just water down his program until people lose interest. Judging from Friday’s show they’ve already begun moving him in that direciton.

    This was noted by many of his viewers in the comment section of a video excerpt of the show posted on the Tucker Carlson Tonight facebook page. Sad. He did the best he could for as long as he could. But it does look like they’ve finally gotten to him.

    Who knows? Maybe they gave him the talk. You know. The one that starts, You’ve got such a nice family Tucker. It’d be a shame if anything happened to them.

  260. annamaria says:
    @Zarathustra

    ‘”In four years there will be again…”

    — You are quite an optimist. The cadaverous Biden and his handlers the war profiteers have big plans for WWIII.
    The ZUSA is dangerous indeed for the whole world — for this planet — because the ZUSA is ruled by immoral and self-possessed psychopaths many of whom are incompetent.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  261. Whitewolf says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    The wall not complete.

    Illegals not deported.

    Immigration reform not done. Though I have read that legal immigration was halved under Trump so I’ll give him credit on that score if it’s true.

    Repeal and replace Obamacare. He gets half marks.

    These were the main things that people wanted from Trump apart from the usual jobs and economy stuff that every politician promises.

    I wasn’t expecting much from him to be honest. After he mentioned thousands of muslims celebrating in the streets of NJ as the twin towers were burning it was obvious he was full of bs.

    I wasn’t surprised that he did more for Israel and that neither the gop nor the democrats challenged him in the slightest on any Israel related decisions yet fought tooth and nail on most of the America First agenda.

    Trump can’t take all the blame of course and indeed the gop itself should really be the focus for conservatives. They have been controlled opposition for decades.

    The one thing Trump can be given a lot of credit for is exposing just how corrupt DC is and how fake the msm really are. The big tech companies have thrown in their lot with the msm now as well and have seen their credibility plummet too.

    • Agree: Rogue
  262. Miro23 says:
    @Wally

    This is a critically important video proving election fraud. In it, Shiva Ayyadurai says, “If we want to be truly free citizens, it requires some significant responsibility on all of us”

    A good example, is the video itself. It’s necessarily 1 hour 10 minutes long (and quite understandable) but needs a significant commitment to watch and check the main points. If, for example, average Americans find that they are unable to do it, then THEY DON’T DESERVE DEMOCRACY. Democracy needs state supported personal study of issues and informed thoughtful voters.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk&feature=youtu.be

  263. @Alden

    Alden, usually enjoy your comments a lot, but you’re dead wrong about Trump’s losing the vote of men of any color. Trump votes were programmatically stolen and given to Biden by the Dominion Voting Systems software. The following analysis of selected counties in Michigan makes that abundantly clear, and 47 other MI counties used the same software in the same capacity Now, we are learning from ‘The Gateway Pundit’ that this same software was used in the swing states of PA, GA, NV, MI, WI, AZ and MN.

    “Dr.SHIVA LIVE: MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems.”

    • Agree: Miro23
  264. @Supply and Demand

    “sew chaos”? And you’re supposed to be a what? A university professor, was it.

  265. @Supply and Demand

    Nice troll. I almost took your post seriously until the last sentence.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  266. Rogue says:
    @Corvinus

    Well, I can’t say I agree with you on much at all.

    However, I have to agree with you on the proposed infrastructure business.

    I absolutely don’t know why Trump didn’t deliver on the huge infrastructure plan.

    Was he blocked? Were his plans sabotaged? Not impossible, but I simply don’t know.

    But surely, SURELY, everyone would have agreed it would have been a good thing to do. Petty party politics notwithstanding.

  267. anastasia says:

    Trump has been relentlessly savaged by the entire world for four long years.
    He is clearly not a member of the club.

  268. @Plato's Dream

    He is being sarcastic you need to sharpen your mind a little bit.

    • Replies: @Plato's Dream
  269. @annamaria

    My dear!
    With all due respect I do not think that they really have a plan for WW3. They are a little bit smarter than that. They need scarecrow Russia to affirm their position and their total control over American people. But deep state painting Russia as a Devil who any moment will over run Europe had a serious negative consequence. For every verbal attack Russians always increased their own military capabilities. Russians take every threat from US very seriously.
    Russians are now building totally new most terrifying weapon. Huge nuclear powered torpedoes with nuclear payload. There is no defense against these torpedoes. They cannot be shut down because they do not have a predetermined pathway. they follow the contour of bottom of the ocean. The payload of these torpedoes is considerably larger than payload delivered in air medium..
    We all shroud have in our mind the case what happened in case of Chernobyl.
    Rabbits, elks, sheep, cows were dying in Sweden.
    Now with this nuclear torpedoes Russia has an option to contaminate all food supply in US that means that Russia has a unpreventable option to send the all US population to the next world.
    They will be sending these torpedoes from Kamchatka to the shores of California.
    And so I do not think US strategist are so ignorant that they do not realize that.
    So ww3 is not really an option. Russia is only scarecrow for all practical purposes.
    The situation as is today is pretty well depicted in “Few good men” , where “Deep state” is punished by Justice system, but I do not think it could happen in US.

    p.s. I do consider you to be one of the smartest if not the smartest person on this site .
    And I consider it a honor that you have noticed me.
    Thank you! (from my heart)

    • Replies: @annamaria
  270. @Whitewolf

    You’re admitting you’ve greatly overstated it when you said “MANY of his promises were unfulfilled.” You can barely come up with any, despite all the words you write. Really, only that he didn’t yet complete projects to a final conclusion. But he had a second term coming up!

    It was massive, coordinated Dem-NWO opposition to what he wanted that impeded his progress. He lost the House in 2018 and that made his projects impossible. Plus the RINO Republicans he inherited, like Paul Ryan, who he had to depend on. And the adverse court rulings. You don’t mention that he turned the Supreme Court around from liberal to conservative, for years to come, in his short term in office. A major achievement for Whites.

    These were the main things that people wanted from Trump apart from the usual jobs and economy stuff that every politician promises.

    1. “what people wanted” is not the same as “what Trump actually vowed to do.” Way too many of you WN’s fail to distinguish between the two when it is so obvious. IMO, you are the bigger block to what’s good for Whites because you have no long-term strategy, only short-term whining and social media hangouts. To think for even a minute that Donald Trump, as president, should openly favor the White population over the non-White, is retarted. He never once indicated such a thing – and he would have been killed politically if he had. He actually accomplished a huge amount of what is considered “White interests”, which will be painfully clear to see when Prez Biden/Harris take the country in the opposite direction. 2. Your dismissal of “the usual jobs and economy stuff” as not worthy of your mention — pathetic. It’s super important and Trump did deliver on that, and outstandingly so.

    I agree that “exposing just how corrupt DC is and how fake the msm really are” to the general public is a major (maybe unintended) achievement of the Trump administration. He’s done that by being the object of their hatred … a la Adolf Hitler. IOW, being a living martyr – sacrificing himself for his people. WN types show themselves as ungrateful and unattractive by not giving Trump credit for all that he’s really accomplished. This kind of carping and complaining (and lying) by white men and women does more damage to White progress than anything minorities can do to us. Please reconsider and stop doing it.

    Finally, the United States has become a multi-racial country. It’s too far gone to reverse. The only answer for us is to grow White American solidarity, strength, and hold the line where we are. Then slowly try to reverse the ratio. This takes long range planning, plus organizing. This is not happening because every bloke has his own ‘opinion.’ Every race-conscious White man who didn’t vote for Donald Trump in this election is a traitor to his race … and ignorance is no excuse. In many cases, it’s the very ones who tell others to “wake up” who need to wake up.

  271. R2b says:

    So theres a voter fraud!
    Well just stop dabbling about it!
    Do some headlines for once!

  272. @anon

    Witness Truman’s faulty logic, influenced by a gestating Deep State headed by the likes of J Edgar Hoover, Wild Bill Donovan and the Dulles Bros. First, the perceived problem is spelled out:

    The Departments of State, Defense, Commerce, Interior and others are constantly engaged in extensive information gathering and have done excellent work.

    But their collective information reached the President all too frequently in conflicting conclusions. At times, the intelligence reports tended to be slanted to conform to established positions of a given department. This becomes confusing and what’s worse, such intelligence is of little use to a President in reaching the right decisions.

    So these troublesome conflicting conclusions coming from various self-interested federal bureaucracies are just too confusing for a President of such limited time and intellectual capacity. Clearly something needed to be done! Looking thru his federal employee handbook, he found the applicable solution for this thorny issue (or for just about any issue for that matter) – Create another bureaucracy:

    Therefore, I decided to set up a special organization charged with the collection of all intelligence reports from every available source, and to have those reports reach me as President without department “treatment” or interpretations.

    The rock solid logic is inescapable here. To protect the President from the “treatment” or interpretations of the various self-interested bureaucracies, one self-interested bureaucracy will be designated and trusted to deliver the Truth in unvarnished form. This will enable the President to make the most sound decisions possible. However, the very next sentence appears to conflict with that stated goal a bit.

    I wanted and needed the information in its “natural raw” state and in as comprehensive a volume as it was practical for me to make full use of it. But the most important thing about this move was to guard against the chance of intelligence being used to influence or to lead the President into unwise decisions— and I thought it was necessary that the President do his own thinking and evaluating.

    Almost sounds reasonable. No “treatment” or interpretations. The President gets the info in a practical comprehensive volume in its “natural raw” state. This new agency will basically compile “natural raw” data for delivery to the President in book form, probably bound for easier access. Obviously, this will guard against intelligence being used by the self-interested bureaucrats in those various other agencies. Our easily confused President will be able to do his own thinking and evaluating without being influenced by them into unwise decision-making.

    Since the responsibility for decision making was his— then he had to be sure that no information is kept from him for whatever reason at the discretion of any one department or agency, or that unpleasant facts be kept from him. There are always those who would want to shield a President from bad news or misjudgments to spare him from being “upset.”

    Clearly, the bureaucrats at those other agencies had been hiding unpleasant facts from the President just to prevent him from getting pissed. By eliminating conflicting conclusions from various bureaucracies, bad news or misjudgments will no longer be hidden. By forming a new bureaucracy, the Truth will emerge from the “natural raw” info provided in handy book form. Now, after implementing the solution to the conflicting conclusion problem, the President should no longer be confused or pissed.

    But there’s a fly in the ointment. What could possibly have gone wrong? The bureaucratic procedural manual clearly stated that creating a bureaucracy is the ticket. There was no mention of faulty logic or unintended consequences. Besides, Allen & Foster assured Harry it would work.

    For some time I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas.

    You hadn’t seen anything yet, Harry.

  273. AReply says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Don’t play stupid. Trump promised to revive America’s lost manufacturing sector and bring Jobs back to US. MAGA

    Also a big part of MAGA is the status of USA internationally, which suffered in many ways simply because Trump himself acts like a jerk.

    Maybe you forgot he rolled in on the claim of his supreme competency and that he would drain the swamp very quickly and easily. For years later he’s like oh it’s so much worse than I thought. Fuck off.

    He persuaded his supports with wildly stupid claims like he will seal the whole Mexican border and repeal the Affordable Care act, which is crazytown because people desperately need the provisions of the ACA and more, then just didn’t do it. Why? His claim was incompetent

    Then there’s MAGA except no MAGA. Like any good Republican who thinks government is evil (and must therefore think America is evil, as what is a nation but its government) and so wants to be in government forever! The cognitive dissonance is astounding, even when you understand that all that shiite is just code for “Gov for me and mine but not for tho”

    Just like an election result that is only legit to Trump if Trump wins.

    So MAGA is gonna take a long long time, especially because the GOP is bent on and succeeding on a generations long destruction of the the country, by every standard.

    Four more years? By Trump reasoning MAGA job was done the day the election was called for him in 2016. A lot of people recall that day with churning in the pit of their stomach that’s no a national bleeding ulcer with morbid complications.

    Finally Trump promised to be a sharp and skillful negotiator. But he is merely a simpleton bully, which is undeniably been on display his entire term.

    Somehow he wasn’t rebuked by all the people he shamelessly grifted, and instead has developed into a cult leader, with his followers having no memory and scurrying around in a strange zombie daze.

    Unexpected. Reversal of Fortune.

    • Troll: Carolyn Yeager
  274. @Wizard of Oz

    Don’t ever bother responding to that half-literate BC moron. Let him puke. Maybe one day he will stop and recover his senses.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  275. Remember now that you will have to justify how good and successful Biden is.
    I am pretty certain that you will disappear in less than half a year as fart in the pants (or panties).
    Or maybe you just will change your nic.
    Only handicap Trump had and has is that he does not speak lawyer language.
    He speaks the language of working man.
    That is obviously coarse to you.

  276. @Robert Konrad

    Cool. I’ve been called a half literate moron by the same clown who actually believes that the Founding Fathers adopted the Constitution from stone Age Siberians. The same Siberians who the Founding Fathers referred to in Declaration as ” the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.”

    Life is good today.

  277. annamaria says:
    @Zarathustra

    Thank you, Zarathustra.

    When a bully brandishes a weapon and agitates for a fight, the fight can happen even if the bully is impotent to do the fighting. The ZUSA’s deciders do not want to perish in a nuclear inferno but they do want to get their pounds of flesh on war profiteering.

    Russian diplomat Lavrov: https://thesaker.is/russian-foreign-minister-sergey-lavrov-wide-ranging-news-conference-with-russian-and-foreign-journalists-on-international-politics/

    Our political scientists are not expecting any revolutionary changes on the Russian track, and I mostly agree with them. America is deeply divided as we can see from the presidential vote. Clearly, responsible politicians must look for ways to overcome this divide and promote unifying ideas that will unite the American people. Here, too, many observers believe that the attitude towards Russia is something that may serve as a common ground for the Republicans and the Democrats in order for them to unite and address common issues. Over the past four years, beginning with the last few months of Obama’s presidency, Russophobia in American society has become so widespread as to become part of political culture. It will be a shame to see the United States trying to reunite as a nation based on Russophobia. But we’ll see.

    https://thesaker.is/russian-foreign-minister-sergey-lavrov-wide-ranging-news-conference-with-russian-and-foreign-journalists-on-international-politics/

    Another frightening problem is the stunning incompetence of the ZUSA’s high-level officials such as certain Michele Flournoy, a perspective head of the Pentagon and banal profiteer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michèle_Flournoy

    In July 2020, American Prospect journalist Jonathan Guyer reported in “How Biden’s Foreign Policy Team Got Rich,” that under Flournoy’s direction the Boston Consulting Group’s military contracts went “from $1.6 million in 2013 to $32 million in 2016.”

    This barbie has never studied engineering, she is ignorant in World History — her pitiful education is in art and international relationships. But she is a vicious opportunist successful in a field of war-mongering and war-profiteering. She is a shell of a human being, an android indifferent to the real deaths and destructions that her subhuman careerist ambitions have brought upon the innocent.

  278. Mark T says:
    @Alfred

    A click through past Martin Armstrong’s site reveals a typo. His source says 3.8million votes stolen, not 38m

    • Replies: @Alfred
  279. annamaria says:

    The Bidenism is coming upon the ZUSA – and deservedly so:

    “James Jeffrey lied to President Trump for two years” https://www.voltairenet.org/article211639.html

    James Jeffrey … explains that he strove hard to keep occupation forces in Syria. In particular, he avows to having lied for two years, in collusion with Pentagon generals, about the number of troops on the ground. While Trump had agreed to the presence of only 200 troops to ward off an attack on the oil wells, Jeffrey and the Pentagon kept 900, distributed throughout the territory.

    According to our information, half of the revenue from these wells was handed over to the Kurdish mercenaries contracted by the Pentagon, while the other half was earmarked for the black operations conducted by the CIA around the world…

    James Jeffrey is one of the signatories of the open letter from Republican former national security officials calling for the election of the Democrat candidate, Joe Biden.

    Here is a stinky decoration for the heroes of the Russiagate color revolution:

    “Biden transition team’s head of state-owned media sees ‘DESIGN FLAW’ in First Amendment, advocates law against ‘hate speech’ https://www.rt.com/usa/506751-biden-propagandist-anti-free-speech/

    Richard Stengel, the point man on state-owned media for Joe Biden’s transition team, has said protection of hateful speech that can provoke violence is a “design flaw” in the Constitution and should be fixed with “new guardrails.”

    Stengel was a US State Department undersecretary for public diplomacy and public affairs in the Obama-Biden administration. He referred to his former State Department role as “chief propagandist.”

    “I’m not against propaganda,” Stengel reportedly told the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018. “Every country does it, and they have to do it to their own population.”

    The Silicon Valley wokes and other ‘revolutionary progressives’ have been excellent material for Barnays’ propaganda techniques. The wokes and ‘progressives’ have paved the road towards a banal totalitarian state.

  280. @Stan d Mute

    In “the narrowest of legalistic terms” Evidence is nothing more or less than that which is admitted as such by a Court.

    In media reportage terms nowadays evidence is a propaganda term.

    Since we no longer have media that strive for objectivity or a journalistic pursuit of factual reportage, many previously agreed upon definitions must be re-examined. It’s been interesting to watch this transformation of the language over the past few years.

    Look back at news reportage before the Trump era. Try to find any instances of the phrase without evidence or with no evidence. It just wasn’t done. Why? Because any time you see those types of phrases inserted into an alleged news report, (and it is now commonplace) the report is not news – it’s an opinion piece and therefore, not objective.

    There are many examples of this new phase of popular propaganda in today’s subjective news reportage. For instance, science is a common example of a key propaganda term used in news reportage nowadays in support of the scamdemic psyop.

  281. @Whitewolf

    the America First agenda.

    Did you know that over half the country thinks MAGA is racist? The last few years of 24/7 propaganda has convinced most Americans that America is truly evil. How it works:

    Most people don’t read this stuff. Most people don’t even read. They watch videos on YouTube. They watch Netflix. They watch movies. They are fed propaganda morning, noon and night. It’s much easier to watch stuff than it is to read stuff. Think Tik Tok.

    Check out Spike Lee’s contribution to public education that came out the summer before the mid-terms while Mueller & Co were stalling around dragging their BS investigation out to make sure Trump would be under suspicion as a Russian asset during that election. The movie, is nothing but a propaganda piece associating America First with the KKK. I recommend it for an eyeful of what makes these people so wacky and hateful:

  282. Sydney Powell doesn’t take on cases she knows she can’t win.

    Now let slip the Kracken

  283. @endthefed

    Fair enough, but even Jackson in his farewell address warned of the same “designing men” that would end up instigating and orchestrating the civil war that actually destroyed the USA … which no one realizes or at least wants to accept. What the USA has been since then, was essentially the equivalent of one of those private equity leveraged buyout type of gutting and hollowing out of the country from within that leaves nothing but debt and a husk and the name behind.

    Let’s also be frank, Trump also has all the chance in the world to do something and even he couldn’t or didn’t want to for whatever reason; be it that he was too gullible, naive, compromised, controlled, insincere, or whatever … he didn’t do the most basic things he could have done from day one that he promised, let alone taken out the jackals he claimed to understand were after us all and he stood in the way of. Now we will see if he really is a fighter and if the hard line of reclaiming the presidency by constitutional path and/or by proving election fraud, or if this too is all just a ruse, intentionally even to further demoralize European people, aka whites … after which, the European people will be crushed by Jewish controlled Biden following the betrayal of Jewish controlled Trump.

    Let me ask you this, here in this controlled opposition forum that the ADL seems to conspicuously not target with any bit of vigor … perhaps because Unz is also Jewish? …; how is it that in a country where no more than 2% of the population is Jewish, the presidents children are all in relationships with Jewish or even converted, all of Biden’s children are in relationships with Jewish, Harris’ husband is Jewish, of the central cast of the Russia charade Schiff is Jewish, Nadler is Jewish, Schumer is Jewish, Vindman is Jewish, and on and on and on .… how is that a coincidence???? It’s not!!!

    We are very much a conquered snd controlled country and people, and in many ways the USA does not even exist anymore and is clearly not legitimate and has long not been a legitimate government by all objective measures against the constitution and becomes more illegitimate by the day and with every unconstitutional action and statement.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
  284. I’ve been saying this for a while. If there are not executions for this treason, there is nothing left to do but accelerate things to at least control, understand, and bring about on our terms the inevitable collapse. Because even if Trump pulls it out, if there are not mass roundups and mass executions even for the highest treason then all the enemies, foreign and colluding with the domestic, will have learned is to try again and do it more secretly.

    If Trump pulls this out, he needs to face MASSIVE pressure to stop with his constant self-sabotage by listening to the devious whispers of the split tongue tribe of the serpent.

  285. Alfred says:
    @cylindrical crown

    If White, male electrical workers walked off the job in protest, the US would be back into the 18th century within 24 hours due to complete collapse of the grid.

    I am afraid it will come to that. Those who control the media cannot change a light bulb. They are the ones who believe in fake renewables.

  286. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    During the crisis surrounding Lincoln’s inauguration, Seward advocated starting a war with a foreign power, arguing that it would unite the country and silence the secessionists.

  287. Steven80 says:

    What an irony – the dominion voting software, that was used to tamper votes in favor of Biden, was written in Belgrade. And it will help Biden, who is one of the people responsible for the destruction of Jugoslavia in the 90-ies and has spoken against serbians on several occasions. That is what I call globalisation.

    Here’s an interview from dominionvoting Belgrade office boss Goran Obradovich, who supervises the programmers that write the code (link is in Macedonian, use google translate) https://ekonomijaibiznis.mk/News?IdNews=18398

    The same voting software that is used in the US is also used in the Philipines, Mongolia, Puerto Rico.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @annamaria
  288. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    The crooked corrupt democrats knew the PO would have problems dealing with mail ballots. So now they can blame any fraud on the PO.

    I think you’re going too easy on the PO. Which candidate did the postal union support?

    Also, those ‘slowdowns’ look like deliberate sabotage by postal workers who didn’t like their new boss.

  289. annamaria says:
    @Steven80

    And for whom the wokes snd ‘progressives’ have been fighting so energetically? Here is their darling Biden (the Obamas’ choice) and Biden’s nearly 45 year political record: https://thesaker.is/whos-world-order/

    supporting every military intervention in American history, opposing de-segregation, eulogizing pro-KKK Senator Strom Thurmond, passing bills that incarcerated petty drug dealers for life on behalf of the cheap labor prison industrial complex and supported the rampant growth of both Wall Street, Big Pharma and the Big Tech run surveillance state…

    The incarcerated petty drug dealers should assemble into a Party of Justice and demand the same leniency that the crack-addict Hunter Biden has been enjoying for many years:
    “A Timeline of Hunter Biden’s Years of Drugs, Addiction, Arrests and Multi-Million Dollar Deals Thanks to Daddy:” https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/timeline-hunter-bidens-years-drugs-addiction-arrests-multi-million-dollar-deals-thanks-daddy/

    Hunter was arrested on Jersey Shore related to drug charges in 1988 and had his record expunged. … In early 2014 Hunter was discharged from the Navy for testing positive for cocaine. … [After Kagan’s revolution in Kiev] the largest oil and gas company in Ukraine hired a chronic drug addict only a few months after the addict was removed from the US Navy for doing cocaine.

    In 2016 Hunter Biden returned a rental car with a crack pipe with cocaine residue and a small amount of a white, powdery substance. A used crack pipe, credit cards, a Delaware Attorney General badge, US Secret Service business cards, and two ID’s belonging to Hunter Biden were found in a Hertz rental car in Arizona. … And surprise, surprise, the County and City Attorney’s offices declined to prosecute Hunter Biden.

    • Agree: Steven80
  290. @Zarathustra

    It’s hard to tell these days.

  291. @cylindrical crown

    Imagine if ALL white male workers said FUCK YOU for three days?

    That’s what has to happen for these people to wake up.

  292. Alfred says:
    @Olivier1973

    Well, this “stupid” person has been advising central banks worldwide for 40 years. His conferences are attended by hundreds of the wealthiest people – and all central banks. 🙂

    The best thing about Martin Armstrong is that the media have a blackout on him. He scares people with his accurate predictions.

    The FT calls him a “former felon” because he spent 7 years in prison for “contempt of court”. He was asked to produce billions of dollars that no one had reported as having been stolen. 🙂

    He is pretty well the only one to have forecast correctly the Russian Financial Crisis (2008/9). At that time, the FT ridiculed him.

  293. Alfred says:
    @Mark T

    In this video, he repeats the 38 million figure. There are frequent typos on his blog. But repeating the 38 figure in speech somewhat confirms it. In any case, the cheating was massive and unprecedened.

  294. hotrod31 says:
    @KenH

    Perhaps it’s time for ALL Amerikans to “see what is right in front of their eyes” … your whole system is debauched. What a forking cock-up. Democracy – my derriere

  295. @Priss Factor

    Priss, you haven’t hit one out of the park in awhile. Welcome back!

  296. annamaria says:

    The FakeBook, Google, Twitter, and other ‘progressive’ social media centers are mortally afraid of any information that can displease the Dems: ” Face Book has taken down….” https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/11/face-book-has-taken-down-.html#comments
    Considering that the pretty old boys and gals in charge of the ‘progressive ‘ social media have made their fortunes by following loyally the diktat of intelligence services, it is obvious now that the Dem Party (and a large chunk of Repub Party) ceased to exist as a party of citizens but morphed into a useful accoutrument of mega war profiteers. Zuckenberg (of holicost tribe) meets Obama the Fraud.

    Comment by Robert G Spenser:

    The new regime that has coalesced in the last four years – Big Tech with the older centers of power in the US – intends to burn out alternative sources of information and narratives. I refuse to live and think or submit to their narrative prisons. This struggle is not just for us but also for our children.

    Comments by @Bubba Schwartz:

    The stench of their fear is palpable. Vote fraud is a crime, yes. However, this goes far beyond ordinary grubbing for money or power. It is an act of war not only against the American people but an act of war against Western Civilization itself.

    Comment by @Razor:

    A mass deletion of these social media fascists and using alternative search engines (duckduckgo.com) for example, would soon strip these entities of their power.

    Yes, the ZUSA has entered a stage of open warfare against western civilization.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  297. annamaria says:
    @annamaria

    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/11/face-book-has-taken-down-.html
    Another comment, by @JerseyJeffersonian:

    What is happening now to the Conservative Treehouse website, being dumped by their hosting service gives an idea of what is to come under President Harris should the effort to correct the ballot counts to eliminate all manner of frauds come up short. The Clampdown…

  298. @Alden

    I made that point in numerous other threads that when Trump declared a National emergency March 13 he guaranteed one thing only:

    The addition of 10’s of millions of mail in ballots that the PO couldn’t possibly handle. And that the democrats are expert at canvassing and harvesting.

    Biden stole this election fair and square.

  299. Four more years of mounting debt and whining about the electio? Why not face the future and do something constructive —-like take the annual Trillion budget given the military and build some infrastructure in USA —create jobs and make America a better place?

    • Agree: AReply
  300. Ron T, says:

    It is futile to sit a person suffering from delusional paranoia in front of a psychiatrist. He will inevitably believe that the psychiatrist is in on it, part of the conspiracy against him.

    For the same reason it is pointless to tell elections conspiracy theorists that neither elections officials, nor cyber security experts, nor homeland security, nor state Secretary of States saw any evidence of widespread fraud and firmly deny it.

    It is also pointless to point out to elections conspiracy theorists that these alleged “frauds” conveniently are only in states that Trump lost, and there are no reported wide scale frauds in states like Florida, Texas or Ohio and that the statistical probability that Democrats knew in advance exactly in which states to carry out their massive fraud operation is low if not non-existent.

    In addition, it is pointless to point out to elections fraud conspiracy theorists that there simply isn’t any hard evidence of wide spread elections fraud and that if there was, the Trump legal team would certainly bring them to courts. Having no hard evidence, these lawsuits get thrown out of court as spurious and frivolous lawsuits.

    It would be easy to call out a kid in the playground who cries foul each time he loses a game of hopscotch but it would be pointless to point out to Trump supporters that Trump announced his elections strategy in advance (in fact he announced this strategy before the 2016 elections too): if I win it’s legit, if I lose it’s rigged elections. That by itself should put all fraud allegations into context and laughed out of consideration, but tell that to elections fraud conspiracy theorists and you will hit a dead end.

    It is equally pointless to point out to elections fraud conspiracy theorists that the Presidential job approval poll, a continuous poll conducted for decades, has shown that Trump never managed to pass the 50% mark, meaning he failed to win over voters during his 4 years of being president. Tell the conspiracy theorists that just about all presidential elections polls pointed to a Biden victory and they will tell you that the pollsters were also in on it, part of the “deep state”.

    It is also pointless to point out that Trump’s “achievement” in these elections is managing to more than double his popular vote loss from 2016 to 6 million (!), a number which would make it extremely hard to win the electoral college. For conspiracy theorists, there is simply no correlation between the popular vote and the electoral college.

    Ask an elections conspiracy theorist how, if the Democrats are such expert elections riggers, they didn’t manage to take the Senate and keep their lead in the House, after all, they were on the same ballots. You will get plenty of confused responses, but none that there simply was no widespread elections fraud. Because once someone is inducted into the Trump Cult and accept that only the Cult leader’s words are the Truth and everything else is “fake media” and “deep state”, that Truth does not require facts or reason to support it, because it is the Truth by definition of the person who spelled it. The Cult Leader is invincible in their mind, therefore a loss is simply impossible.

    Therefore, I will not try to convince Trump supporters and elections fraud conspiracy theorists that Trump simply lost fair and square and his fraud allegations were simply an execution of his pre-meditated strategy for an elections loss (which he started carrying out at 2:00 AM on November 4, long before he could have had any evidence of fraud, which he still doesn’t have). I tell them: you’re right, Trump won and the victory was stolen from him. Joe Biden will be sworn as the 46th President of the United States on January 20th as a result of a grand conspiracy.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  301. @Ron T,

    there are no reported wide scale frauds in states like Florida, Texas or Ohio

    Errr, guess you didn’t hear about the former police chief’s sworn affidavit that up to 700,000 fraudulent votes in Texas?

    https://thetexan.news/biden-campaign-operative-texas-state-senator-accused-of-mail-in-ballot-fraud/

    As to the rest, the “conspiracy theory” comes from your side. Thousands of cases of voter fraud and ballot harvesting have been prosecuted in the past. And given the criminal activity of the Deep State trying to stage a coup for the last 4 years against Trump, well, sure, they might be criminals for the last 4 years, but they wouldn’t be criminals here, would they?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  302. News conference for the ages: the near extinct forthright turns out to be alive in the culture of deception.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  303. annamaria says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    It is hard for @Ron T and the army of semi-educated but enthusiastic ‘progressives’ to figure out that Freud’s nephew Barneys has been the main influence on the ZUSA’s apparatchiks. The ZUSA propagandists are not hiding anymore; they have willingly dismissed any vestiges of dignity: https://consortiumnews.com/2020/11/18/election-2020-biden-appointee-advocated-using-propaganda-against-americans/

    Richard Stengel, the top state media appointee for U.S. President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team, has enthusiastically defended the use of propaganda against Americans.

    “My old job at the State Department was what people used to joke as the chief propagandist,” Stengel said in 2018. “I’m not against propaganda. Every country does it, and they have to do it to their own population. …

    Stengel has proposed “rethinking” the First Amendment, “… I have really moved my position on it, because I just think for practical reasons in society, we have to kind of rethink some of those things.”

    “Stengel was born in New York City and raised in Westchester County. Richard Stengel is Jewish.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stengel

    • Thanks: Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @AReply
  304. Incitatus says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    ‘Time to move on peacefully and gracefully’
    “What you liberal idiots aparently [sic] do not realize is that we are enemies and we will not simply accept your criminal usurpation of the gov and “move on” . this is war and you started it.”

    I’m no liberal. Used to think I was ‘conservative’, but something about flag-waving ideologues espousing perpetual “this is war and you started it…we are enemies” (like elementary school playground bullies) soured the label.

    Make no mistake, still conservative, but wise enough to discern losers (whatever they call themselves).

    Do musicians listen to their fellows en ensemble AJM?

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  305. AReply says:
    @annamaria

    You mean Edward Béarnaise… Yes, he is a famous American propagandist and Jewish saucier. You can find him at the French Laundry slinging Covid hash.

  306. peace says:

    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts got to be a racist and a white supremacist…

    • Replies: @AReply
  307. AReply says:
    @peace

    PCR wrote insightful screeds on how finance was eating political system for a decade or more. I used to invite others to read them for discussion. Maybe his editors reigned in his bigotry?

    There’s so much anger festering due to pain. I am never surprised when anger runs after some reviled other as I know the all too well in myself

    But it’s completely beyond the pale for a guy of his age and experience, and it makes no sense that he destroys his reputation to score points in an editorial game.

    My working theory is that this site is an AI proving ground and that certain authors at end of career received payments for using their names on content that is being generated automatically and measured for impact. It may be that screeds with certain fingerprints, say of bigotry, are a easy to correlate with activity in other social networks where you can’t rely on control of a vast silo or count on devices like browser cookies to make the crossing

    I have zero evidence of this but I find the idea entertaining.

    Now question for readers:
    Am I a bot?
    Hit agree if I’m realz
    Hit disagree if I’m deep fake

    BTW, Did John McCain sire a black baby out of wedlock? And keep in mind the iPhone was invented after that question made the rounds in GOP push-polling.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  308. @Incitatus

    I’m no liberal. Used to think I was ‘conservative’, but something about flag-waving ideologues espousing perpetual “this is war and you started it…we are enemies” (like elementary school playground bullies) soured the label.

    All of you little faggots eschew the label “liberal” or “leftist”…lol

    You douchebags like the term “moderate”.

    Unfortunately for you, your words and actions always betray you.

    And of course seeing as how the political spectrum has shifted radically Left in at least the last 60 years, you’re fooling no one.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  309. Incitatus says:
    @GeneralRipper

    “All of you little faggots eschew the label “liberal” or “leftist”…lol…You douchebags like the term “moderate”.”

    LOL indeed! Never mentioned “the term moderate”. Hallucinating? Bodily fluid imbalance alert?

    “And of course seeing as how the political spectrum has shifted radically Left in at least the last 60 years, you’re fooling no one.”

    Shifts to the radical Left were in concert with kindred moves to the radical Right (remember Iraq 2003?). Both political extremes strive to polarize the electorate, dominate discourse and win elections. None offer a hopeful/convincing/sustainable future. Both just demonize their opposite. Job security.

    Tedious and tiresome masturbation (activity in which you’re doubtless expert).

    Stay well, Ripper. Remember – rainwater and grain alcohol.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  310. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:

    I believe that America is being destroyed by the pernicious influence of many Jews and Blacks.

    Jews, by and large, are destroying traditional American Christian culture, wasting treasure and blood on wars to support Israel, and inviting in millions of illegal aliens.

    Blacks, by and large, vote for anti-American, socialist Democrats because Democrats want to give free things to Blacks. This is theft by Blacks.

    White Christian culture cannot tolerate such onslaughts.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  311. Shifts to the radical Left were in concert with kindred moves to the radical Right (remember Iraq 2003?)

    Yo, shitforbrains.

    https://truthout.org/articles/iraq-the-democrats-war/

    And that’s not even remotely a “right wing” site…lol

    That’s when Americans finally recognized the Globalist “UniParty”, sweetheart. Leftist filth, one and all, just like you.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  312. Incitatus says:
    @GeneralRipper

    “Yo, shitforbrains… sweetheart. Leftist filth, one and all, just like you”

    How articulate! Kindly post what I’ve ever said that’s leftist.

    No? Jerking-off again facing a mirror? Wait, wait – isn’t that mama calling you to dinner (basements are sound traps)?

    Stay well, Ripper. Remember – rainwater and grain alcohol (when you’re old enough to imbibe).

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  313. That’s how lying, bullshitting filth like you deserve to be spoken to.

    Wait till we get ahold of you. 😉

    Read the article, jerkoff.

    You people are all about lies.

    I will call you out on them.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  314. Incitatus says:
    @GeneralRipper

    “That’s how lying, bullshitting filth like you deserve to be spoken to. Wait to we get ahold of you.”

    You’re really not too original, are you?

    The ‘we’ll get you’ threat. Surely you can do better? Families? First born? Aunts, uncles, friends and the lot? Babies strangled in their cribs? Endless threats. What were you thinking?

    Flailing around in consummate disarray? Don’t envy you.

    Helpful Hint: make sure you have Vaseline handy. Your only mate.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  315. I seriously doubt any of you trolls are actually Americans living here, so you should be fine. Hopefully your own kind will take care of you when the time comes.

    The treasonous Leftist whites living here have no idea what’s in store for them.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  316. @GeneralRipper

    Now, now some of us are multinationals, GR! Your idiot settler colonial forebears happened to write a document that allows for such.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  317. @Supply and Demand

    You are traitors.

    Traitors to your nation, your race, your religion and everything else.

    Stay in China. Don’t come back.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  318. Yes they have, no thanks to USELESS REPUBLICANS WHO DIDN’T SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT OR HIS BASE OF MILLIONS OF VOTERS, “representatives” like,, MITCH (“mumbles” )McConnell, Paul the “sneak” Ryan, Mitt the “snake” Romney, Lindsey “finger to the wind” Graham, JUST FOR STARTERS….With guys like this backing up the president, who needs the democrats as enemies..??

  319. Sir Paul Craig Roberts….having read u 4 what seems like for ever, there simply is no way at all that I can possibly thsnk you, praise u 2 the heavens, 4 your most inc redible of all your posts…
    This one being “VOTE FRAUD”!! YOUR ABSOLUTE VERY, VERY BEST YET!! When folks here ask why we left usa 4ever, your essay is the best answer yet! Yes, no question, politics everywhere are corrupt, but this latest demorat theft just defies any ANY rational belief! I sincerely hope u r surrounded by nothing but highly trained sharpshooters. God only knows just how many demorats would love having your scalp! PLEASE BE SAFE!!!!! Expat tom

  320. @anonymous

    It’s because Western media is completely under the control of Jews, the world’s foremost End Justifies Means people.

    Read Mein Kamph. Adolf Hitler faced (and overcame) the exact same conditions in Germany.

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