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As a person who grew up in the glorious aftermath of World War II, it never occurred to me that in my later years I would be pondering whether the United States would end in civil war or a police state. In the aftermath of the stolen presidential election, it seems a 50-50 toss up.

There is abundant evidence of a police state. One feature of a police state is controlled explanations and the suppression of dissent. We certainly have that in abundance.

Experts are not permitted forums in which to challenge the official position on Covid.

Teachers are suspended for giving offense by using gender pronouns.

Recording stars are dropped by their recording studios for attending the Trump rally. Parents ratted on by their own children are fired from their jobs for attending the Trump rally. Antifa is free to riot, loot, intimidate and hassle, but Trump supporters are insurrectionists.

White people are racists who use hateful words and concepts, but those who demonize whites are righting wrongs.

Suppression of dissent and controlling behavior are police state characteristics. It might be less clear to some why dictating permissible use of language is police state control. Think about it this way. If your use of pronouns can be controlled, so can your use of all other words. As concepts involve words, they also can be controlled. In this way inconvenient thoughts and expressions along with accurate descriptions find their way into the Memory Hole.

With the First Amendment gone, or restricted to the demonization of targeted persons, such as “the Trump Deplorables,” “white supremacists,” “Southern racists,” the Second Amendment can’t have much life left. As guns are associated with red states, that is, with Trump supporters, outlawing guns is a way to criminalize the red half of the American population that the Establishment considers “deplorable.” Those who stand on their Constitutional right will be imprisoned and become cheap prison labor for America’s global corporations.

Could all this lead to a civil war or are Americans too beat down to effectively resist? That we won’t know until it is put to the test.

Are there clear frontlines? Identity Politics has divided the people across the entire country. The red states are only majority red. It is tempting to see the frontiers as the red center against the blue Northeast and West coasts, but that is misleading. Georgia is a red state with a red governor and legislature, but there were enough Democrats in power locally to steal the presidential and US senate elections.

Another problem for reds is that large cities—the distribution centers—such as Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles—are in blue hands as are ports and international airports. Effectively, this cuts reds off from outside resources.

What would the US military do? Clearly, the Joint Chiefs and the military/security complex are establishment and not anti-establishment Trumpers. With the soldiers themselves now a racial and gender mix, the soldiers would be as divided as the country. Those not with the Establishment would lack upper level support.

Where are the youth and younger adults? They are in both camps depending on their education. Many of the whites who went to university have been brainwashed against themselves, and regard white Americans as “systemic racists” or “white supremacists” and feel guilt. Those who did not go to university for the most part have experienced to their disadvantage the favoritism given to people of color and have resentment.

What about weapons? How can the reds lose when guns are a household item and blues would never dirty themselves by owning one? The answer is that unlike the War of Northern Aggression in the 1860s, today the weapons in the hands of the military are devastating compared to those in the hands of the public. Unlike in the past, it is impossible for a citizens’ militia to stand against the weapons and body armor that the military has. So, unless the military splits, the reds are outgunned. Never believe that the Establishment would not release chemical and biological agents against red forces. Or for that matter nuclear weapons.

What about communications? We know for an absolute fact that the tech monopolies are aligned with the Establishment against the people. So much so that President Trump, in the process of being set-up for prosecution, has been cut off from communicating with his supporters both in social media and email.

The American Establishment is doing to President Trump exactly what it did to Ukrainian President Yanukovych in Washington’s orchestrated “Maidan Revolution,” called “the Revolution of Dignity” by the liars at Wikipedia, and precisely what it did to Chavez, Maduro, and would like to do to Putin.


Suppose an American civil war occurs. How is it likely to play out? Before investigating this, first consider how the Establishment could prevent it by bringing the red states to its defense. The Trump supporters are the only patriots in the American population. They tend to wear the flag on their sleeve. In contrast, blue state denizens define patriotism as acknowledging America’s evils and taking retribution on those white racists/imperialists who committed the evils. In blue states, riots against the “racist system” result in defunding the police. If the Antifa and Black Lives Matter militias were sicced on the Biden regime, red state patriots might see “their country” under attack. It is possible that the “Proud Boys” would come to Biden’s defense, not because they believe in Biden but because America is under attack and he is “our president.” Alternatively, an Antifa attack on the Biden regime could be portrayed as an unpatriotic attack on America and be used to discourage red state opposition to the police state, just as “Insurrection” has resulted in many Trump supporters declaring their opposition to violence. In other words, it is entirely possible that the patriotism of the “Trump Deplorables” would split the red state opposition and lead to defeat.

Assuming that the Establishment is too arrogant and sure of itself or too stupid to think of this ploy, how would a civil war play out? The Establishment would do everything possible to discredit the case of the “rebels.” The true rebels, of course, would be the Establishment which has overthrown the Constitutional order, but no media would make that point. Controlling the media, the Establishment, knowing of the patriotism of its opponents, would portray the “rebels” as foreign agents seeking to overthrow American Democracy.

The “foreign threat” always captures the patriot’s attention. We see it right now with Trump supporters falling for the disinformation that Switzerland and Italy are behind the stolen election. Previously, it was Dominion servers in Germany and Serbia that did the deed.

On whose head will the Establishment place the blame for “the War Against America”? There are three candidates: Iran, China, and Russia. Which will the Establishment choose?

To give Iran credit conveys too much power to a relatively small country over America. To blame Iran for our civil war would be belittling.

To blame China won’t work, because Trump blamed China for economically undermining America and Trump supporters are generally anti-China. So accusing the red opposition with being China agents would not work.

The blame will be placed on Russia.

This is the easy one. Russia has been the black hat ever since Churchill’s Iron Curtain speech in 1946. Americans are accustomed to this enemy. The Cold War reigned from the end of World War II until the Soviet Collapse in 1991. Many, including retired American generals, maintain that the Soviet collapse was faked to put us off guard for conquest.

When the Establishment decided to frame President Trump, the Establishment chose Russia as Trump’s co-conspirator against American Democracy. Russiagate, orchestrated by the CIA and FBI, ensured for three years that Trump was accused in the Western media of being in cahoots with Russia. Despite the lack of any evidence, a large percentage of the American and world population was convinced that Trump was put into office by Putin somehow manipulating the vote.

The brainwashing was so successful that three years of Trump sanctions against Russia could not shake the Western peoples back into factual reality.

With Russia as the historic and orchestrated enemy, whatever happens in the United States that can be blamed elsewhere will be blamed on Russia. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, and former Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes have already associated “Trump’s insurrection” with Russia.

Suppose that an American civil war becomes intense. Suppose that the Establishment’s propaganda against Russia becomes the reigning belief as propaganda almost always becomes, how can the Establishment not finish the insurrection threat by attacking the country responsible? The Establishment would be trapped in its own propaganda. Emotions would run away. Russia would hear threats that would have to be taken seriously.

You can bet that Biden’s neocon government will be egging this on. American exceptionalism. American hegemony. Russia’s fifth column, the Atlanticist Integrationists, who wish absorption into the degenerate and failing Western World, will echo the charges against Russia. This would make the situation a serious international incident with Russia as the threatened villain.

What would the Kremlin do? Would Russia’s leaders accept yet another humiliation and false accusation? Or will the anger of the Russian people forever accused and never stood up for by their own government force the Kremlin into awareness that Russia could be attacked at any moment.

Even if the Kremlin is reluctant to acknowledge the threat of war, what if another of the numerous false warnings of incoming ICBMs is received. Unlike the past, is it believed this time?

The stolen election in America, the emerging American Police State, more vicious and better armed than any in the past, could result in American chaos that could be a dire threat to the Russian Federation.

What Trump and his supporters, and perhaps the Kremlin, do not understand is that real evidence no longer counts. The Establishment makes up the evidence that it needs for its agendas. Consider how easy it was for the Capitol Police to remove barriers and allow some Antifa mixed in with Trump supporters into the Capitol. This was all that was required to create a “Trump led insurrection” that terminated the presentation of evidence of electoral fraud and turned the massive rally of support for Trump into a liability. Trump now leaves the presidency as an “insurrectionist” and is set up for continued harassment and prosecution.

As I previously wrote, the stolen election and its acceptance abroad signifies the failure of Western democracy. The collapse of the Western world and its values will affect the entire world.

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  1. How long did it take for the mighty USA military to restore electric utilities in the face of insurgency in Iraq?

    No member of the State wants to be picked off one by one, be it military, cops, leadership or functionaries.

    What has been overlooked in the debate over the combat potential of violent extremists is the diffusion of something much more rudimentary and potentially more lethal: basic infantry skills. These include coordinated small-team tactical maneuvers supported by elementary marksmanship. The diffusion of such tactics seems to be underway, and it may generate serious concerns for U.S. security policy in the future if ignored.

    Imagine if fuel pipe lines to urban areas were hit, railroad tracks hit, water processing facilities hit; the vision of an easy victory over Red America would quickly come home to the city dwellers.

  2. @Joe Stalin

    The key to modern warfare is logistics. Japan lost WWII on December 7 not because it awakened the US but because it failed to strike Pearl Harbor again and destroy the large tank farm that held most of the fuel reserve for the US Pacific fleet, it failed to destroy the dry docks at Pearl Harbor and nearby machine shops, and finally Japan failed to target and sink the US Navy fleet oilers. Today the US Navy has 15 fleet oilers. On day one in any Pacific war, we presume any hypothetical enemy will disable the US fleet by targeting the fleet oilers.

    Switch to the US. In a Red State/Blue State conflict, major cities can be cut off entirely from food and water just by targeting a few key points. The well-equipped US Army will then have to deploy forces to defend those points to keep cities fed. As the Iraqis and Afghans and the Vietnamese before them have taught, you don’t fight set piece battles with the US. You don’t provide targets for air power. Instead, you rely on the guerrilla tactics our British cousins taught the French partisans in WWII and that our Irish cousins perfected in decades of war against our British cousins.

    The reason that the old Soviet Union collapsed was that all at once everyone just stopped paying attention to the central government. US elites have known since the Soviet Collapse that they same thing could happen in the US.

    Elections in the US are not about picking winners. They are about making voters complicit in governance by their having voted. The most recent election failed to make the Red voters “complict” because there was no transparency and everyone believes there was fraud. No election with mail in voting in the US will every work because everyone will assume fraud.

    In a nation as large as the US with as much concentrated city living, logistics are a nightmare. The next time the lights go out, you may wonder. When your grocery chain runs out of meat, you may wonder. When sewers in your city keep breaking, you may wonder. Thus truly scares me.

  3. Vidi says:

    today the weapons in the hands of the military are devastating compared to those in the hands of the public

    True enough. However, the weapons and the ammunition don’t magically appear; they need to be manufactured somewhere, and those places (and/or their suppliers) can be destroyed.

  4. TG says:

    I must disagree. There will be no “civil war” in the United States. The establishment controls the levers of power and all communications and all organized structures. There may be a bunch of disaffected citizens, but they will remain a disorganized mob. Any apparent emergent rival for power will be ruthlessly suppressed, deplatformed, villified, or co-opted. The working class has been effectively divided and will waste its energy fighting itself over crumbs (‘diversity’).

    Disorganized mobs do not fight civil wars.

    No, the fate of the United States will be the sort of chaotic autocracy we see in places like Mexico and Brazil. Verging on being a failed state, the rich will nonetheless live lives of great luxury secure in their walled estates. Meanwhile the average person will be crushed into poverty, criminal gangs will flourish, and there will be a tension between the central police and local gangs, but gangs are rarely organized enough to truly challenge centralized states, and life will muddle on. There will be little social cohesion and no real trust of central authorities, but that only matters if you want a strong and unified society. The rich will do fine.

    On the other hand, the overall national power will decline, and other powers like China (which for all its flaws has not declared war on the working class, nor does it routinely excuse or celebrate incompetence in leadership) will rise and take its place both on the world stage and as the cutting edge of science and culture.

  5. Wyatt says:

    And the people making them don’t tend to want those weapons used against their friends and neighbors.

  6. Notsofast says:

    to me the biggest outcome of this faux coup/insurrection is the splintering of the republican party. with this schism the trump “populists” have been cleanly pared off of the party and thrown overboard and the remaining party will meekly do the bidding of the neocon deep state that now totally controls both of these sock puppet parties. we will now see both parties calling for a unification of our “indispensable nation”. more than likely some false flag will provide the necessary impetus to bury the hatchet and focus us all on our new/old enemy. the only hope i see is an outside chance that so many republicans have been redpilled that the party becomes the new whigs and fades into obscurity, leaving room for new parties to rise from the ash. the dems are ripe for a schism themselves with aoc champing at the bit to kick the boomers to the curb and the bernie bros finally realizing that three card monty is a rigged game. i would love to see the destruction of both of these hopelessly corrupt parties but the deep state cthulhu has its tentacles thoroughly wrapped around our poor planet and anything emerging out of this toxic mess would most likely be even worse. the situation reminds me of voltaire’s candide and his sage advice to cultivate your garden.

    • Replies: @catdog
  7. Anon[912] • Disclaimer says:

    I’d advise the young to develop a “plan B”. Pick another country you find bearable amd study it. Find out what jobs are in demand there. Develop those skills in your spare time (computers, electricians, mechanics, etc.). Practice their language an hour or two per week with online resources/dvd’s/books. Research their immigration laws and perhaps contact their embassy.

    If it gets really awful for whites here, you may be able to take your family some place more hospitable. Hopefully none of this will be neccessary and the rhetoric will tone down. Trump personally really got under the left’s skin. Don’t umderestimate Hillary’s supporters influence here. They were ticked off. The Obama’s too. Perhaps they will calm down a notch now. Have a plan B though young whites.

  8. catdog says:

    If Trump peels off a large fraction of the GOP vote, perhaps to a new Bull Moose party, unfortunately I still don’t think it will be the death of the Republican party. The GOPe politicians will smoothly and without shame change the R next to their names to a D, and form a new uniparty, rather than allow Trump’s 74 million to have any say in how their country is run. There are perhaps steps that could be taken to prevent this, but Trump is for now still the “leader” of the dissident right and he is too foolish and short-sighted to take those steps. The same seems to happen in Euro parlimentary elections. When the right-wing party gets a plurality of the votes, everyone else forms a coalition against them.

  9. @Vidi

    Not to mention those weapons will be used by a “diverse” military (NAMs), who may not know how to use them effectively. A smarter force can be more than a match for a better-armed one.

    • Replies: @Hamilcar
  10. @catdog

    You need to recall the old George Wallace voters. Most are dead, but the Trump voter is very much like the Wallace voter. A scholar, J. Michael Hogan, wrote an article “Wallace and the Wallacites” many years ago that has some insight. One of the keys to understanding voters is what questions are not asked on the ballot or by pollsters. One key insight perceptive scholars had about the 1960s is that Americans turned against the Vietnam wars in polling only after pollsters stopped asking if the US should escalate the war. Meaning, more war was no longer presented as a live option. In this past election the problem, was, as usual, the choice on election day is binary.

    Back to Wallace–recall he was a Democrat who ran as an independent in 1968 and gave “yellow dog” Democrats a tool to vote against the Democratic Party. When you count the Wallace vote in 1968 and the Humphrey vote the Democrats won. In 1972 Nixon learned how to co-opt the Wallace vote and Ronald Reagan did the same in 1980 and 84.

    Today the Trump voter is the Wallace voter and it has no home. The Republican Party (without the Wallace voter) has been a non-entity since the 1960s. The “R” party will be a cypher without the Trump voter. The wild card in US politics is can anyone else harness the Wallace voters. The Big Tech industry is trying to kill that possibility by today closing off communication channels. That actually means most 30 and 40 somethings are clueless because they do not understand how folks communicated before high tech. What is needed is a dynamic 60 something who understands how to build a movement to reach out to the Wallace/Trump voter. Trump’s genius was the political rally. Without Trump’s money, rallys will have to wait. Recall, however, that George Wallace created a movement in 1968 before talk radio, before Twitter, before Facebook, before Cell Phones. The way forward to to comprehend how Wallace did that. Sometimes old is new again.

    • Agree: Montefrío
    • Thanks: Marshal Marlow, John Regan
  11. @Joe Stalin

    Although I agree that urban vs. rural will be the frontlines of the upcoming civil war, I somewhat disagree with your suggested tactics: at least for now. As the great general Sun Tzu stated “In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy’s country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good.”

    • Agree: Abdul Alhazred
    • Replies: @flashlight joe
  12. Patience my friends. Time is on your side. Your enemy is celebrating what appears to be a victory. Let them celebrate. Do not disturb them. Do not interfere with their celebrations. Allow them to waste their time basking in their delusional glory. But you, you spend your time productively by assessing the situation, laying clever plans, connecting with people you trust, building up your provisions. Please do not act hastily, you have time to prepare, so use it.

    • Thanks: Kolya Krassotkin
  13. You paint a pretty bleak picture, Mr. Roberts, as always. I find a lot of it improbable, though the picture I would paint is probably equally as bleak if somewhat different. I believe that the establishment institutions (and people) really do not understand Trump’s America at all. The inability to understand your enemy always leads to fatal consequences for the aggressor. You rightly pointed out that a lot of guns (450 million, I seem to remember being cited as the number) reside in the closets of middle America. Bacterial weapons and other sophisticated weaponry are really not up to the task of controlling a largely rural resistance.

    A big mistake that I think the blue states (the establishment) make is to assume that by vilifying their opposition in the red states that this will somehow be effective in disarming the opposition. To the contrary, once these rural citizens feel that their own country is turning against them, I believe that they will feel that they have nothing to lose if they take up arms against these very stupid and malevolent would-be-rulers. People with nothing to lose (or who perceive that they have nothing to lose) are prone to strike out in all kinds of unpredictable ways. One way in which they are likely to strike out (highly likely in fact) is through targeted assassinations of various blue state autocrats, and perhaps media liars. I think that it could raise a lot of havoc before it reaches its ultimate endgame, which in this case, as in others historically, is some sort of military dictatorship in the country. Not a pretty prospect, but the French Revolution gives us a pretty good template, in my opinion, for what is being perpetrated upon Middle America right now. The deconstruction of language was a big part of that revolutionary program. It was also anti-religious and very aggressive militarily against neighboring countries. Pretty similar to our own blue state “phenomenon” , but the French resistance, mostly lower middle class and ultimately conservative, was never really brought under control until Napoleon came along. The French resistance didn’t have the firepower of Middle America. If the French rural resistance had had the ability, the Jacobins and the other revolutionary crazies (mostly highly educated “intellects” like our new ruling class) would have been in for a much bigger world of hurt than they ultimately sustained back then. It always ends the same, though. Democracy is dead in the United States. Dictatorship will follow.

    • Agree: TJH14, Miro23
    • Replies: @WagnersFirstViolin
  14. Another insightful article by PCR. However, I must somewhat disagree on some points.

    What would the US military do?

    The military would support whomever pays their salary and their pensions, i.e. the Establishment. However, as Iraq and Afghanistan has shown, the U.S. military, while possessing remarkable firepower when taken on directly and openly, is quite vulnerable. The U.S. military is essentially mercenaries. Mercenaries work for pay. Mercenaries are not willing to die for a cause. You can’t spend money if you’re dead.

    Think of the Troubles in Ireland.

    The Establishment absolutely can deliver a punch to an identifiable opponent, but it can’t take a punch. Low level violence directed at officers and politicians would bring them to their knees.

    Controlling the media, the Establishment, knowing of the patriotism of its opponents, would portray the “rebels” as foreign agents seeking to overthrow American Democracy.

    I agree that they will try. However, I suspect that PCR is underestimating how little faith many whites have in the media.

    The Establishment will never be more powerful than it is today. They have inherited institutions, the people to man those institutions and a generally functioning economy. Basically, they stole the keys to car that they didn’t create. But the Establishment run those institutions and economy into ground. They will slowly start to show cracks.

    Whites need to stay low, start forming small groups and begin preparing for the openings that will come.

    • Agree: stevennonemaker88
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  15. Jjj says:

    Recording artists get signed to record labels. Not recording studios

  16. The racial right has been fantasizing about a civil war since forever, but I can’t see it. Too many people have too much to lose, there’s no real desire for blood, and the people are anyway too soft to initiate or withstand the violence real war would unleash upon them. Further, and in stark contrast to the SJWs and antifa, the few racially conscious whites who fantasize about this are mostly too old to make good soldiers. Also, just like the “God emperor” himself, Trumpers are some of the stupidest people on the face of the earth, largely down with their own enslavement, nauseatingly fond of “law and order”, sporting “Blue Lives Matter” badges, etc. Despite being preyed upon by blacks and browns for decades now, they still refuse to become racist. Most of them are Bible thumpers who really believe that race is just skin color, that all are equal before their imaginary friend called God, and that Israel is America’s greatest ally. Then too, vast numbers of whites work for the government or its many offshoots such as education, law enforcement, the military, and the defense industry. Civil war would mean they’d be revolting against themselves.

    Will America become a police state? In case you haven’t noticed, Americans already live in a police state, and have for decades. PCR should know this as well as anyone, as he was part of it during the Reagan years. America is an open-air prison Americans built themselves, and they rat each other out and betray each other to keep themselves ideologically in line. When someone white is doxxed and fired for having bad thoughts, who do you think does the enforcing? For the most part, it’s other white people. Fake president and China asset Biden is just the new warden.

  17. No revolution is possible unless those on the front line can attack and then sink back in to the general population in the knowledge that they’ll be welcomed with food and a bed for the night. By the looks of the majority of ‘revolutionaries’ in Washington, their only ally is Burger King.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • LOL: FB, Biff, obvious
    • Replies: @anon
    , @davidgmillsatty
  18. Franz says:
    @Harry Huntington

    Fine comparison of Trump now and Wallace back then.

    A sideline issue then, but far more important in the current media-saturated era, was the venomous response to the Wallace vote.

    Pollsters were very aware that a huge number of Wallace voters were up north. In the wake of it Hollywood made one of the most hate-filled anti-white movies up till that time.

    The movie was called “Joe” and made a bundle in the aftermath. In it Peter Boyle played a cartoonishly nuts industral worker, who of course voted for Wallace and thinks killing antiwar demonstrators is a fine idea.

    One of the lines Joe says sums it all up: “Do you know that 70 percent of all liberals are queer? The Wallace people took a poll.”

    Never mind the fact there was no such poll. This is how propaganda works.

    Hollywood has been, in big ways and small, the enemy of the American majority ever since.

    Being aware and prepared is good, but along with that every serious patriot needs to attack the mass media however they can and as often as they can.

    A half-century of their poison is enough.

    The next breakthrough for most of us will be an medium of our own. This site is a fine beginning since most posters here know the current MSM will never play fair. Working on the next step will be a priority from January 20th on.

    • Replies: @anon
  19. Anonymous[168] • Disclaimer says:

    There is another option to broad civil war. Horribly successful in the past. But nobody wants to unleash the hounds of hell. The innocent would fall as well as the guilty. Who are the puppet masters, who controls the six media corps that control the MSM, who controls the socials?

    • Troll: botazefa
  20. It’s wrong to think in terms of a ‘civil war’. One should think in terms of a forever war. A permanent war. Not in the sense of the military-industrial complex looking for useless wars all over the world. No, something like the Islamic concept of Jihad. A Muslim sees his soul always at war with the forces of evil and looks upon the world in terms of Muslims vs heretics and infidels. So, even when a Muslim is living in times of peace, he is always on war footing.

    Jews are the same way. They have what might be called the Jewhad. Jews are never content to just go along and get along. Jewishness is like a Fight Club. They are always sizing up others and looking for weaknesses and vulnerabilities(or looking to create them, such as spreading globo-homo and promoting diversity in goy lands). They feel they must control things and be on top. In a way, Leon Trotsky’s notion of the Permanent Revolution is a secular-radicalization of the Jewish ethno-spiritual radical will.

    So, when people think in terms of the ‘civil war’, they are thinking small. They should feel that they are always at war and should always be on the outlook for their enemies. Had white Americans been on such war-footing , they would not be in such a mess. They would have been far more alert and vigilant, far more aggressive against those who aggress on them.

    In the past, whites had a kind of spiritual war mentality with the notion of the Crusade and Inquisition, but one focused too much on far-flung places and the other was overly political.

    Muslim and Jewish war mentality is spiritual in that it’s deeply felt and animated from within.
    In contrast, white war mentality is physical/external. It’s about the conventional definition of war, and that means when big wars are over, whites think they are living in peace.

    Even in peacetime, the Muslim and Jewish souls are not at peace. This is why they find ways to keep fighting and pushing even when the wars are over. Even though Jews don’t much serve in the military, they are tough and tenacious warriors for Jewish Power across so many institutions and industries. They wage war through media, entertainment, advertising, law. Indeed, Jews are masters of lawfare.

    So, whites need an ethno-spiritual wartime view of the world. Even in peacetime, whites must know the world is always a struggle between forces of good and evil, between your people and the enemy, between patriots and traitors, between courage/integrity and cravenness/venality.

    So, don’t worry about a civil war. That’s wussy stuff, come and go. Anti-whites have been waging whites in various forms forever, and whites must realize that they’ve always been at war with non-whites and white traitors. The reason why whites have been losing since the 60s is they are in peacetime mentality whereas Jews, blacks, and certain immigrant groups are in wartime mentality.

    The Jewish Way is like the opening lines of ASHES OF TIME: “The flags are still, no wind blows. It’s the heart of man that is tumult.”

    Even when nothing seems to be happening in the world and all is calm, the Jewish radical heart is at war… against you and goyim.

    Just like the Corleones need a wartime consiglieri, white folks need a wartime heart. Always know you are at war because there are enemies all around who want to take your guns, your freedom, your womenfolk, your wealth, your land. Sadly, even many on the dissident right don’t get this. Too many still dream that Jews will somehow love them, embrace whiteness, and join with whites to happily preside over a peaceful world. Jews don’t see things that way. Michael and Hyman Roth understand. Even when they are shaking hands and assuring one another, they are at war and they both know it.
    The big flaw of Trump was he put down his guard and thought he’d won respect from enemies who were swarming all around him.

    • Agree: Nisbe, Hippopotamusdrome
    • Replies: @m___
    , @ThreeCranes
  21. As a person who grew up in the glorious aftermath of World War II, it never occurred to me that in my later years I would be pondering whether the United States would end in civil war or a police state. In the aftermath of the stolen presidential election, it seems a 50-50 toss up.

    In a very meaningful sense we already have a “police state.” Why do we have a police state? Because our masters realize that they can’t run the whole world from anything resembling a constitutional republic (as the Founders and Framers envisioned it). It’s the agenda for complete world domination and control that’s driving the domestic oppression. As they continue to squander everything of value on the agenda and take more risks, etc., while the corruption and rot continue to take a toll and the country crumbles, the boot will need to come down ever harder on the neck.

    And please stop kidding yourself about Trump. It wasn’t for the benefit of Joe and Jill Sixpack that he seized Syrian oilfields, tried to start a war with Iran, tried to overthrow the Maduro government in Venezuela, tried to stop Nord Stream 2, started a trade war with China, pulled out of all the nuclear treaties, etc. Trump wasn’t just fully onboard with the agenda, he pursued it enthusiastically.

    If Trump’s nuclear brinkmanship and aggressive foreign policies aren’t promptly reversed, the U.S. may end as a pile of nuclear ash. Comments coming out of Moscow recently seem to suggest that Russia is finally losing its patience with interminable U.S. hostility and may soon start responding more forcefully to U.S./NATO provocations (and Biden’s tough talk on Russia isn’t helping matters any).

    Neither Russia, China nor Iran are going to surrender to the USraeli empire and start taking orders, so either the U.S. “government” must back off and accept a multipolar world or WW3 is still on the table, even by accident.

    • Agree: stevennonemaker88, L.K
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Chris Cosmos
  22. nickels says:

    The political life is dead in America.
    There are no more parties.
    There is only THE party.
    They may keep a facade of dem/rep, but they will be all the same and hand chosen.

    Forget politics. It is over.

  23. Biff says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    IWill America become a police state? In case you haven’t noticed, Americans already live in a police state, and have for decades. PCR should know this as well as anyone, as he was part of it during the Reagan years. America is an open-air prison Americans built themselves, and they rat each other out and betray each other to keep themselves ideologically in line. When someone white is doxxed and fired for having bad thoughts, who do you think does the enforcing? For the most part, it’s other white people.

    I tend to agree

    I grew up in an environment where those around me were afraid to go out at night, and the fear was from encountering the police state.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  24. anon[417] • Disclaimer says:

    Civil war no. Secession yes. Many states have ballot propositions all it will take is one to start the domino.

    • Replies: @Herbert Norkus
    , @TG
  25. @Biff

    I grew up in an environment where those around me were afraid to go out at night, and the fear was from encountering the police state.

    The doggone mean streets of Wisconsin in the 80’s, huh Biff?

    Lucky you made it out of there in one piece, brah…lol

  26. tanabear says:

    From Thucydides’ History of the Peloponnesian War.

    The Civil War in Corcyra

    “So savage was the progress of this revolution, and it seemed all the more so because it was one of the first which had broken out. Later, of course, practically the whole of the Hellenic world was convulsed, with rival parties in every state – democratic leaders trying to bring in the Athenians, and oligarchs trying to bring in the Spartans. In peacetime there would have been no excuse and no desire for calling them in, but in time of war, when each party could always count upon an alliance which would do harm to its opponents and at the same time strengthen its own position, it became a natural thing for anyone who wanted a change of government to call in help from outside.

    So revolutions broke out in city after city, and in places where the revolutions occurred late the knowledge of what had happened previously in other places caused still new extravagances of revolutionary zeal, expressed by an elaboration in the methods of seizing power and by unheard-of atrocities in revenge. To fit in with the change of events, words, too, had to change their usual meanings. What used to be described as a thoughtless act of aggression was now regarded as the courage one would expect to find in a party member; to think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was a coward; any idea of moderation was just an attempt to disguise one’s unmanly character; ability to understand a question from all sides meant that one was totally unfitted for action. Fanatical enthusiasm was the mark of a real man, and to plot against an enemy behind his back was perfectly legitimate self-defence. Anyone who held violent opinions could always be trusted, and anyone who objected to them became a suspect. To plot successfully was a sign of intelligence, but it was still cleverer to see that a plot was hatching. If one attempted to provide against having to do either, one was disrupting the unity of the party and acting out of fear of the opposition. In short, it was equally praiseworthy to get one’s blow in first against someone who was going to do wrong, and to denounce someone who had no intention of doing any wrong at all. Family relations were a weaker tie than party membership, since party members were more ready to go to any extreme for any reason whatever. These parties were not formed to enjoy the benefits of the established laws, but to acquire power by overthrowing the existing regime; and the members of these parties felt confidence in each other not because of any fellowship in a religious communion, but because they were partners in crime. If an opponent made a reasonable speech, the party in power, so far from giving it a generous reception, took every precaution to see that it had no practical effect.

    As the result of these revolutions, there was a general deterioration of character throughout the Greek world. The simple way of looking at things, which is so much the mark of a noble nature, was regarded as a ridiculous quality and soon ceased to exist. Society had become divided into two ideologically hostile camps, and each side viewed the other with suspicion. As for ending this state of affairs, no guarantee could be given that would be trusted, no oath sworn that people would fear to break; everyone had come to the conclusion that it was hopeless to expect a permanent settlement and so, instead of being able to feel confident in others, they devoted their energies to providing against being injured themselves.”

  27. Give up says:

    There won’t be another civil war here. The first one really was mostly a war between states, anyway, too.

    I keep trying to become an airhead and just not care. But, I keep coming back to Unz like a gay evangelical going to bath houses.

    I’ve sent paperwork to my local government to de-register to vote. It’s alway been a waste and my side almost always loses. When my side does win a vote the next day a judge overturns it.

    I’m in my early 60’s and in my lifetime very rarely has any fellow whites cared about me. They just care about themselves and focus on today. I’m the fool who always cared about all others. I am such an idiot.

    I hear the word “fascist” used constantly, but I truly don’t fully understand what it is. But, to me the Warren Court is what I imagine fascism to be.

    I do remember when over-population concerns were the single most important threat as a kid. But, even as a youngster I noticed mentioning the large increases in non-white populations was contradictorily declared bigotry.

    This may get me in trouble, but I really don’t think America has ever been a real country.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • LOL: Niebelheim
  28. It’s interesting that, with all the civil chaos and domestic disenfranchisement of the last decade, discussion of “civil war” in the USA has finally emerged from future tense into the present.

    If it does eventuate, unlike the Empire’s many foreign victims, this will be a genuine home-grown conflict unfomented by international provocateurs (although who could blame some foreigners from wanting to get involved once it’s underway?).

    I’d proffer that the civil war has already been underway in the USA for years now – it just hasn’t flashed over into full-blown kinetic conflict yet. And most Americans haven’t figured out that they’re in a war yet. When patriots start taking out their enemy’s leadership in kind, then we’ll know “it’s on!”.

    Suffice to say, from an external vantage point, the clouds do look dark for the teeming American masses. Quite the contrast to the image projected by America just a few decades back. I might add that it’s probably easier from the ouside looking in, than to be immersed in the American melting pot, to really see and understand what’s happening. Woods & trees, so to speak.

    Maybe good for the rest of the world, if all this leads to a withdrawal and ultimate deflation of the Empire. Not so good if some other country is scapegoated as a distraction (for them, and if Russia, for everyone).

    As for the long-suffering and embarrassingly niaive American common folk, my recommendation would be – if you can – get out while you still can. Lots of other countries would be sympathetic to your plight, and probably not the countries that you’d expect.

  29. Whether civil war as we may imagine it, or something equally unappealing to our every day lives, something bad is about to happen.

    I’m curious though, regarding what I do believe was unprecedented election fraud. How is it possible, after watching the Georgia State Farm arena video, that the President of the United States, with all the power that office should hold, could not force the negro woman identified in that video, one Ruby Freeman, to answer questions about what we saw? Ruby Freeman was never questioned as far as I can find. How is this possible? Nothing makes sense. Before we begin killing one another, can we do two things; 1. Interrogate Ruby Freeman and 2. Interrogate the killer of Ashli Babbit?


    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  30. kanehaole says:

    Where did the U boats attack the USA in WWII. They tried to stop shipping out of New Orleans. How did the union win the civil war? They took the Mississippi river, then took the train from Memphis to Atlanta.

    So the first city to conquer is New Orleans because it opens up the whole Mississippi valley, basically the heart of red country. Most the grain and manufactoring is in the US midwest. The next would be Chicago? Then the reds can decide which city next.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  31. Little bit feverish article. And I do have to say no.
    Civil war can happen only after hyperinflation accompanied with lawlessness.
    And that will happen only if US looses its international position.
    Everything depend now on Germany.
    If Germany joins China Russia camp than US as a world leader will not mean anything anymore.
    China now is courting Europe intensively. Particularly is courting Germany.
    Nothing is set yet.
    So everybody can relax.
    Biden is out of his mind. In his speech he said that he wants to increase minimum wage and reestablish unions. That could be a little help also.

  32. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marshal Marlow

    Obama seemed to prefer “hotdogs”.

  33. Hamilcar says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    This will end up being a huge advantage for any resistance in the long term.

    A U.S military mostly comprised of non heritage Americans and pushing idiotic diversity initiatives will be dysfunctional and utterly incompetent.

    We are seeing it already with all these ship crashes.

    It’s one thing to declare that arithmetic is racist and mandate diversity.

    But it’s quite another to actually have people like that making decisions or operating complex systems.

    The Chinese and Russians must be quite amused.

    Ditto for every other sphere in which they repeat their retarded experiment.

    • Replies: @Publius 2
  34. People living in the core areas of Ziocorporate globalism, like the US/EU, remain mostly oblivious about the nature of their ruling regime than those living in the direct periphery of globalist power. Take Colombia for an example, like Mexico’s, all its presidents are subservient to US Ziocorporate power. Last one, a Nobel peace prize winner under whose pre-presidential stint as “Defense” minister oversaw the US-serving Colombian military’s systematic massacre of tens of thousands of lower class Colombian youths who were then disguised as guerrillas to cash in rewards paid US Plan Colombia dollars, proceeded, now as president, to negotiate the disarmament of the actual guerrillas under the Obama/Biden regime’s orders. Massmurder and massacres maintained an average level.

    Then, in 2018, right after the Trumpet, a shamelessly pro-US regime, even for Colombian standards, took over and massacres and massmurder picked right up again, to an average of 2 or 3 per week, with exploding cocaine production even for Colombia standards as well, and extreme political polarisation, and all the while the Ziocorporate mother ship in Washington, with its Qtard and MAGA bullshit, looked the other way except to accuse Venezuela of being undemocratic and of human rights violations.

    If Americans weren’t so stupid and daydreaming like fucktards that they live in “muh democracy/republic” instead of the Ziocorporate conglomerate regime that rules over them, they could take a clue or two from their own regime’s foreign policy, not only did Trumpet do things like transferring \$400 billion in weapons to ISIS/al-Qaeda royal Salafi patrons in Ziodi Wahhabia, he doubled-down on the Obama/Biden policy of Venezuela “is a national security threat to muh democracy and freedom”; to start pondering about the kind of manipulation and radicalisation Ziocorporate agents Trump/Republicans and Biden/Democrats have in store for them. Cointelpro certainly mutates far faster than Covid-1984.

    Happy New World Order and Great Reset.

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  35. Schuetze says:

    “As a person who grew up in the glorious aftermath of World War II”

    PCR must be blathering about those “glorious days” in the Rhine Meadows Camps when the US implemented Roosevelt’s and Eisenhower’s Morgentau Plan to genocide millions of innocent Germans. This is why PCR still gets a dopamine rush whenever he slurs Germans by kvetching about “NAZI”.

  36. @catdog

    Partisanship and voting in a Ziocorporate regime is gonna lead you nowhere. Instead you get things like this:

    “AMAZON: The Biggest Joint CIA-Corporate Covert Operation in U.S. History”

    Much less if you plan to vote for a Ziocorporate hired help conman who got a script to play a “populist anti-deep state” character is actually the opposite of:

    “White House teams up with Google to build coronavirus screening site”

    What do Qtarts and the like need to realise this simple, evident facts? That the Trumpet himself comes on national TV telling you all “I and the Democrats have been playing divide and conquer with you dumbfucks for 4 years”?

    Feeling that anti-deep state MAGA magick yet?

  37. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Neither possibility will occur, because the U.S. soon will mistakenly initiate a nuclear exchange, through miscalculation and error. Proficient/conscientious/fastidious has unraveled into “get it basically okay.” That new performance level might suffice for designing new airliners, or rolling-out vaccines, or avoiding collisions between our warships and slow merchant vessels. (By “suffice” I mean it gives you the U.S. as Brazil/Idiocracy). But when it comes to avoiding nuclear mishap, the standard is not “basically okay”; rather, the standard is “perfect.” The U.S. cannot do “perfect” anymore.

  38. JimB says:

    Russia has been the black hat ever since Churchill’s Iron Curtain speech in 1946.

    The Soviet Union was a black hat because it was an aggressive socialist empire. Russia is a black hat today because it is white, Christian, proud of its history, and filled with manly men who laugh at political correctness, effeminacy, and third world buffoons.

    • Replies: @Cilcoffin
  39. Miro23 says:

    The American Establishment is doing to President Trump exactly what it did to Ukrainian President Yanukovych in Washington’s orchestrated “Maidan Revolution,” called “the Revolution of Dignity” by the liars at Wikipedia, and precisely what it did to Chavez, Maduro, and would like to do to Putin.

    What Trump and his supporters, and perhaps the Kremlin, do not understand is that real evidence no longer counts. The Establishment makes up the evidence that it needs for its agendas.

    Their playbook “Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals” by Saul D. Alinsky, makes it clear that it’s necessary to play dirty. This covers all aspects of their Regime Change projects and the current US project surely isn’t any different.

    It’s a cocktail of lies, fabrications, subversion, threats, blackmail, false friendships – in fact any means to advance themselves.

    For example: From Alinsky – “Means and Ends” His take on morality:

    Rule 10) You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.

    Rule 11) Goals must be phrased in general terms like “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity”, “Of the Common Welfare, “Pursuit of Happiness” or “Bread and Peace”.

    So yes, this is why the most unpatriotic Patriot Act is called the Patriot Act and they operate from patriotic sounding places like the American Enterprise Institute.

    If traditional America is going to get anywhere in the upcoming conflict they have to get used to playing by the same rules – difficult for them – but they have to do it. It’s inevitably going to be a dirty war.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  40. Point of order- Russia is not the historic enemy, but the orchestrated one, rather it was the Soviet Union which is the historic enemy, as the sponsors of the destruction of Russia are behind the destruction of America.

    • Agree: Sue Dunham
    • Replies: @James Charles
    , @Nisbe
  41. Carlos22 says:

    We are already in a police state and you can kiss goodbye to the 1st and 2nd amendment soon as free speech becomes hate speech just like they did in Europe.

    So this site and many others in the alt news universe will soon be gone.

    There’s not going to be a civil war as the current generation of young people are too weak and distracted and have been brainwashed into hating themselves.

    There’s a big elephant in the room and wild card that’s been missed too and that’s the new covid vaccines who’s long term effects on health are unknown.

    Vaccines need to be studied for about 10 years before their safety can be guaranteed.

    If tens / hundreds of millions are willing to be injected with a new untested genetic engineered substance that could make them disabled or kill them in 5 years to save them against something with a 99% survival rate what does that tell you about the mental state of the Population?

    The US as you once knew it is finished it’s just that many are still in denial or haven’t realized it yet.

    • Agree: Niebelheim
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @c matt
  42. One problem I keep seeing, reading, is that too many frame the concept of a civil war in much the same as a replay of what took place during the 1860’s. For that to happen, we’d have to have a few states withdraw from the US, and so on. But, as a smart cookie knows, if we study our world history, there’s always more than one way to skin a cat, right?

    And, at the risk of irking those who once served, I still will mention a few words here, and allow others to do the mental extrapolations to see what as to what I infer. Ready?

    Vietnam. The Vietcong. Hit, Run, Hide. Charlie. IED’s. Patience. Thet. The Fall Of Saigon.

    Uh-huh. Now, exercise your gray cells on that concept. Talking to a retired officer, who was there and saw how effective Charlie was at demoralizing the effort. Who won that one? Who showed enormous patience and…..?

    Uh-huh. Same could happen here, too. That’s the scary part.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  43. noname27 says: • Website

    I see no civil war in the USA. I see no organisation amongst the people in order to carry it out. They have no leader, they have no Hannibal, Boadicea or Adolf to rally them together for a major insurrection against The Beast Empire. Unless of course something is brewing secretly.

    A French style form of resistance, as previously mentioned in these comments, also takes a lot of planning and organisational skills, and I see no inkling of that taking place amongst American patriots.

    I also believe many do not realise how serious the matter is, they still, being bogged down in irrelevant party politics.

    If however a large swathe of the police and US Military including officers were to desert their corrupt masters, things would look very different and a civil war could happen.

  44. The civil was has been on since Crossfire Hurricane, the usurpers of the constitution simply kept it cold because they thought they could enforce their tyranny silently.

    And if Trump surrenders then they would have been proven right, at least for the leadership fight.

    Biden will likely launch a war because he already has his bay of pigs with his graft, and will need a moonshot for the misdirection.

    I don’t think they can fight half the nation (and the military will split), and Russia at the same time, so the only question is on whom the war will be launched. I still think the odds are higher that it will be a civil war, but the Russia option looms strong for sure.

  45. @Harry Huntington

    No election with mail in voting in the US will ever work because everyone will assume fraud.

    Which is why it is prohibited in Europe.

  46. @TG

    1945 payback. These mulattoes deserve this fate. They fought for this.

    Now, where is General Rippedanus and lowIQjazzman?


    • Replies: @anonymous
  47. Thank you, Pedro.

    Trump’s status deficit

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  48. TKK says:

    The US military is the most “woke” diverse incompetent organization in America.

    Remember- contractors do all the heavy lifting “in theater”- from cooking to plumbing to firefighting to IT to combat.

    This knowledge is hidden from view- kept on the down low.I only know because my brother has worked in Iraq and Afghanistan for KBR for the past 15 years. I have seen him accumulate well over Half a million in cash. What does he do? He makes sure the troops have water and food. He is in logistics. For the past decade I have heard hundreds if not thousands of stories of the jaw dropping incompetence, insouciance and laziness of the American military.

    Rank-and-file Americans, indeed no one, talks about this very real infrastructure that props up every dumb, overweight enlisted. About 4 contractors to every enlisted.

    Most of the contractors in theater are from Eastern Europe and sub Sahara Africa. If they were given orders to release biological or chemical weapons on the American populace, as long as the huge checks were hitting their account they would do it in a heartbeat

    More than the military- fear the shadow military that knows the systems, does the work….. And will do whatever it is asked as long as they are paid.

    Their mother doesn’t live here.

    Everywhere we turn, diversity and hiring people from the “other” never works out.

    ***Side note: My brother revealed that when blacks came back from their R&R after the George Floyd insanity, most of them became more aggressive and entitled. Unable to do their work because they could not stop going to report others for incidence of racism.

    This includes the American black contractors and enlisted.

    These are dumb young black men and women who are making \$92,000 a year to move pallets around. If they were asked to stop calling in sick every day, they would run to report their supervisor for-


    Many whites have lost their lucrative positions or been subject to discipline for having the audacity to ask blacks to come to work.

    It’s over. It’s too far gone.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Thanks: TheTrumanShow
    • LOL: Nisbe
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
    , @Erebus
  49. gotmituns says:

    We’re in a soft civil war right now. As time goes by, it will become more violent incrementally. But simultaneously, we’re also at a point where a large segment of the population will want to go on with their stupid lives of inane pleasures. I also predict, the nation will break up along racial lines which is not a bad thing.

  50. Nisbe says:

    The Military can’t win an insurgency war. They never did in fact.
    Why do you think the traitors have been trying to destroy the 2A for years now? You can’t drone and tank your way into subjugating 200 million armed civilians, they’ll destroy your armed forces via pure attrition via guerrilla warfare and other 4th gen warfare tactics.

    And as the gov tries to destroy the insurgency and inevitably kills more and more civilians, more insurgents appear as more and more civilians get radicalized.



    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  51. @Zarathustra

    The EU just finalized another huge trade deal with China. Homosexual Macron conceded to polish jew Merkel.
    This is a good development. Killing muttmerica is a priority for the world.
    We should provoke these mutts into a blind rage. Then we can finish it off together.
    Imagine a world without jews and their mutt golem.

    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  52. @TKK

    The fruits of 1945. I see nothing but karma in aktion.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @frontier
  53. Scotist says:

    ‘What about communications? We know for an absolute fact that the tech monopolies are aligned with the Establishment against the people.’

    I don’t know about that. Aren’t they against the minority of the people? Don’t more than half of the people approve?

    Or are you implying some kind of right-wing version of the Marxist notion of ‘false consciousness’?

    • Disagree: GazaPlanet
    • Replies: @Eric Novak
  54. G J T says:

    I am of the opinion that the Jewish parasite will voluntarily remove itself from the host if and when it believes a civil war is inevitable, and I believe they are in the early stages of doing just that right now. All indications are that ZOG’s American empire is over, and those signals are being sent to the world by this occupation government itself. They’re sucking the last bit of blood and preparing to move on, at which point we will of course have to clean up the mess left behind.

    The civil war that PCR and so many others speak of, in its precise context, will only happen if the Jewish regime wants it to happen. Otherwise they will just loot us like they did the Soviet Union and then get out of dodge. The sooner that happens and we can begin to rebuild, the better.

    • Replies: @Phoenix
  55. If I may be allowed to repost at length a comment by an Anon from the Saker blog:


    I have long thought that Paul Roberts has never really understood his own argument. The government purporting to be the government of the United States is a usurper, illegitimate and any respect for it must be ended. This has been true not just this year but for a long time.

    Moreover, Trump does not seem to be the man to fill the role which history has called him to but let that be as it may. One does not try to use legal means to remove traitors as such. One arrests them, jails them and executes them. Trump should declare Pelosi, Schumer, and many others traitors and send forces to arrest them. The Congress itself has committed treason against the Constitution. If Congress should attempt to impeach then Congress itself should be arrested on grounds of usurpation.

    Yes, at the late hour one would have to call this political theatre and Trump can expect to lose if the army will not back him up, but it sets the stage for refusal to acquiesce in the authority of a Biden administration, openly calls the Biden Administration traitors and prepares the ground for a real fight. To whom and to what is the US army loyal? If it chooses the Biden Administration then the case must be made over and over again that it is disloyal to the Constitution. The answer to the claim that Trump threatens the government and democracy is that role belongs to Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, Harris and many others. The first necessity is not to fear the charges made but throw them back into the faces of the accusers.

    Why pretend that there is any longer a legitimate authority? If people are arrested let them denounce the courts and judges, if jailed there will be more of them in jail than guards. Let them break out. If the guards shoot them down then the regime will have blood on its hands. This should inspire fence sitters to take up arms.
    It will force the new Administration to put Trump and others on trial which will make clear that the new authority is not respected and that opponents of the new regime will have to fight.

    Demand that the army arrest the regime. If the army supports the regime denounce them as traitors. Call on the general’s subordinates to mutiny and come over to the opposition.

    When one faces an authority deemed illegitimate one must treat it as illegitimate. What does it matter if Nancy Pelosi claims Trump inspired an insurrection? She should be seen herself as in rebellion for undermining legitimate authority by that very claim. If she wants impeachment let her be arrested for treason. How many fake impeachment trials must one President endure?

    Every effort should be bent to delegitimize the gaggle of politicians who have incited this. Indeed, if this delegitimizes the state, let it happen. Accept that we are in a pre Constitutional state of affairs struggling against an illegitimate authority in occupation. Do not let the Deep State’s minions continue to claim the mantle of legitimate authority.

    If the Biden Administration is allowed to assume the mantle of legitimate authority it will grind the American people, particularly whites, I suppose, into the ground. Refuse to accept the legitimacy of Biden and accept the consequences.

    You do not salvage Freedom at a cheap price. Not in an eleventh hour resistance to a long planned coup. The price of Freedom is not free. The true curse on the people in Washington who faced off with Congress is that they have begun to discover much too late the nature of the game they are playing. Rebellion or submission most of them will face death sooner or later at the hands of this regime. They might as well fight now. Those who fear for their employment will not impress their new masters.

    • Agree: Catdog, Alfred
    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Nisbe
    , @Zarathustra
  56. @TG

    ” . . . the fate of the United States . . . “?
    ‘We’ have ten years?


    “ . . . our best estimate is that the net energy
    33:33 per barrel available for the global
    33:36 economy was about eight percent
    33:38 and that in over the next few years it
    33:42 will go down to zero percent
    33:44 uh best estimate at the moment is that
    33:46 actually the
    33:47 per average barrel of sweet crude
    33:51 uh we had the zero percent around 2022
    33:56 but there are ways and means of
    33:58 extending that so to be on the safe side
    34:00 here on our diagram
    34:02 we say that zero percent is definitely
    34:05 around 2030 . . .
    34:43 need net energy from oil and [if] it goes
    34:46 down to zero
    34:48 uh well we have collapsed not just
    34:50 collapse of the oil industry
    34:52 we have collapsed globally of the global
    34:54 industrial civilization this is what we
    34:56 are looking at at the moment . . . “

  57. @Joe Stalin

    technology may simply “be magnifying the effects of skill differentials on the battlefield. If so, then a given skill imbalance may be much more important today than in the past”. We proposed a similar argument here. Therefore, the U.S. military needs to not only be wary of the changing skill sets of the enemies of the United States but also keep a similarly watchful eye over the maintenance of our own human capital. U.S. forces are only as good as the men and women they select, train, and develop.

    An interesting observation in light of recent Pentagon social justice intentions to correct alleged disparities by assigning high-skilled and/or crucial roles to those who are unsuited for them. Perhaps the insistence that the US military be as woke as the government (and the civilian economy that supports both) would prove to be their undoing in the hopefully unlikely case of civil war, as of course it may be in the case of conflict with a competent foreign adversary.

  58. @anon

    One cannot implement successful secession without population transfers and/or Nuremberg style laws restricting the activities and power of certain folks

    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  59. @Abdul Alhazred

    ” . . . rather it was the Soviet Union which is the historic enemy, . . . ”
    Was it?

    “Taken together, these four volumes constitute an extraordinary commentary on a basic weakness in the Soviet system.
    The Soviets are heavily dependent on Western technology and innovation not only in their civilian industries, but also in their military programs.
    An inevitable conclusion from the evidence in this book is that we have totally ignored a policy that would enable us to neutralize Soviet global ambitions while simultaneously reducing the defense budget and the tax load on American citizens.”
    “ His book tells at least part of the story of the Soviet Union’s reliance on Western technology, including the infamous Kama River truck plant, which was built by the Pullman-Swindell company of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a subsidiary of M. W. Kellogg Co. Prof. Pipes remarks that the bulk of the Soviet merchant marine, the largest in the world, was built in foreign shipyards. He even tells the story (related in greater detail in this book) of the Bryant Chucking Grinder Company of Springfield, Vermont, which sold the Soviet Union the ball-bearing machines that alone made possible the targeting mechanism of Soviet MIRV’ed ballistic missiles. “

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  60. m___ says:
    @Priss Factor

    Parallel loyalties, regardless of position in society, shadow organizational lines will do it. The “elites” are fragile, they turncoat individually on a dime, and firstly the most fragile (and frigid a corpse) is the dollar.

    The dollar can be made to have no meaning at all, when there is no physical control and garanties of logistics, the areas that are safe, the mansion that is wrongly located, …nothing to buy. The whole outer territory infrastructure of the US can be made junk in no-time. A server farm, an energy supply line, drinking water, a distribution center, asynchronous in time and location, a subversive culture will grow, and cowardice will be made to be exploited in a positive way. No actions, net exorting to pressure …no seat at the bargening table. Passive violence of the institutions must meet the dagger.

    Insurgencies as Irak, Syria, Afghanistan, WWII, ETA, IRA, old school maffias take “organized” as exemplary. The military, the media, the administrations could be easily infiltrated solely on the basis of pressuring individual atoms of their systems. America holds together on the wrong premises, greed, con-Z-umerism, hyper-individuality, false notices of what constitutes success, respect, what riches mean, a weak society. As a matter of fact, to unseat the US will get all of the help from the outside world as soon as there is some momentum. The Towers might fall for real this time around.

    • Agree: Alfred
  61. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Harry Huntington

    All bets are off when it comes to predicting what will happen in the future.

    No one believes that in a head to head confrontation with the US military a rebellion could succeed.

    But only a fool would fight this way.

    Whether the country continues its descent into an all out police state and the Gulag is erected in the land of the free and the home of the brave will depend on the appetite of the American people for individual liberty.

    If that desire remains strong, I do not see how the evil bastards now running the country can succeed in their supremacist and genocidal impulses.

    The emperor has no clothes and it is long past time for the American people to have noticed that fact.

    • Replies: @DrWatson
  62. As long as the cities hold onto their airports, sufficient numbers of jihadis will be flown in to sic on icky bigot red staters Old white men. I look forward to the vision of 8-10 feral tribal Africans sneaking up on Joe Boomer in the dead of night, slitting his throat and stealing his arsenal.

    No meaningful organizing has been done by the stop the steal crowd, so I look forward to ‘secession’

    • Troll: Jeff Davis, TTSSYF
  63. anonymous[313] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s payback for the 6 million Jews who lost their lives, and payback for the many Jews whom America turned away, closing its borders. Thank you Heebhunter for all your hard work. You’re one of the few commenters whose insights I respect.

  64. I guess we have to be satisfied with what we saw. After all it is America. Had this happened in a “less civilised” country, shooting one protester would have just propelled the mass forward while seizing the weapons of the few cops in the melee, shooting the secret service and lynching (or at least taking hostage) the cowering politicians inside, and the occupiers issuing proclamations of a new people’s government from inside the seat of power of the the US to lead a worldwide anti-globalist revolution. It could have been accomplished in no time at all but it was not to be. In America that only happens in Hollywood movies.

  65. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Lots of other countries would be sympathetic to your plight, and probably not the countries that you’d expect.

    Such as? Probably not South Africa, Israel, or Germany. Maybe Japan? They’re being pushed to take immigrants now, so maybe they could settle for some whites. WW2 was a long time ago.

  66. yurivku says:

    The election of Biden even being stolen proves once more that US as a country is eternal enemy of all humans around the world.
    Not to speak about Russia. Previous shit like Skripal, Navalny, Russiagate … proves the same.
    So, I hope this empire to be eliminated, better with civil war for it’s been built from a rotten human material, which is not curable.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  67. @Carlos22

    If tens / hundreds of millions are willing to be injected with a new untested genetic engineered substance that could make them disabled or kill them in 5 years to save them against something with a 99% survival rate what does that tell you about the mental state of the Population?

    That with any luck, Darwinian natural selection will restore a more proper ideological balance to the world, since it is largely the virtue-signalling progtards who are scrambling to get the vaxx first.

    • Replies: @Cilcoffin
  68. @Harry Huntington

    “When sewers in your city keep breaking…”

    This is an interesting angle. Severing the main lines that feed waste treatment plants or holing settlement tanks would incapacitate a city, leaving it literally awash in shit. Awash in its own toxic stew, plague would break out. Armed insurrection would not be necessary.

    A liberal is, by definition, a person who, metaphorically and literally, won’t deal with their own shit. Doing so is what deplorables are for, in their estimation.

  69. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    There’s no critical mass of Deplorables hard, desperate, or smart enough to organize and sustain a real insurgency. Americans are generally soft and dependent and incapable of doing or saying much without being surveilled. Absent an external attack that kills the power grid and disrupts the food supply, the end game is Brazil. But if the shit really hits the fan and people truly get hungry, the guns in the closets of Middle America might be helpful to ward off a Holodomor.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  70. Another war is around the corner…. as always. This will distract the masses from their decline into abject poverty while the rallying cry of “support the troops” deadens the senses and motivates the ignorant to action. All to the proles detriment and the elites further enrichment.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  71. @Priss Factor

    Always interesting, entertaining and provocative, PF. Carry on.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Disagree: Sue Dunham
  72. @tanabear

    My text is a bit different, but it included this:

    All this was caused by leadership based on greed and ambition and led in turn to fanaticism once men were committed to the power struggle. For the leading men in the cities, through their emphasis on an attractive slogan for each side—political equality for the masses, the moderation of aristocracy—treated as their prize the public interest to which they paid lip service and, competing by every means to get the better of one another, boldly committed atrocities and proceeded to still worse acts of revenge, stopping at limits set by neither justice nor the city’s interest but by the gratification of their parties at every stage, and whether by condemnations through unjust voting or by acquiring superiority in brute force, both sides were ready to satisfy to the utmost their immediate hopes of victory. And so neither side acted with piety, but those who managed to accomplish something hateful by using honorable arguments were more highly regarded. The citizens in the middle, either because they had not taken sides or because begrudged their survival, were destroyed by both factions.

  73. Svevlad says:

    The weakness of the blues is their centralization. EXTREME vulnerability to guerilla and attrition warfare tactics.

    The military splitting is practically a given.

    And due to the reasons you have specified, Iran, Russia and China would instantly do everything in their power to ensure both sides annihilate each other. If it goes hard enough, nukes will fly – American nukes, at American targets, that is.

    Either way, no getting out of this scenario. It will drag Canada and Mexico along as well, and with the subsequent unspeakable economic crash, it could very well just grow into a global shitshow. A worldwide Somalia, with islands of stability.

  74. Mefobills says:
    @Give up

    A real country has borders, language, and culture. A real country has concentric waves of kinship.

    A prerequisite for a real country is sovereign money.

    The founders failed on the money power question.

    The US is not a real country.

    I’m an American. So sorry if the shoe fits…wear it.

    • Agree: Biff, dogbumbreath, GeeBee
    • Thanks: HeebHunter
  75. @tanabear

    “In peacetime there would have been no excuse and no desire for calling them in, but in time of war, when each party could always count upon an alliance which would do harm to its opponents and at the same time strengthen its own position, it became a natural thing for anyone who wanted a change of government to call in help from outside.”

    First, under Roosevelt, the Democratic Party called in the Jews and now the Jews call in the browns and blacks.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  76. @Harry Huntington

    We don’t need a Civil War to strain the logistics or infrastructure. Just keep adding foreign humanity to the system that hasn’t seen any meaningful updates or additions for 40 years or so. The Democrats and most Republicans are either woefully ignorant, or they are destroying us intentionally. I’m going with the later. I still think the winner in this mess will be the ones who can survive. Surviving with an underground or black market infrastructure is the key. Then you fight the corporate and banking goons who plan on stealing the assets that are under the ground we are all sitting on after we have been dealt with.

  77. @Gina Schrank

    To paraphrase Rick in Casablanca, there are huge parts of (for example) east Texas, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi that it would be a vast mistake for any mercenary force to invade. The same could probably be said of eastern Washington, Oregon, Montana and Idaho.

  78. Defcon says:

    Once they defund the police, install their social workers and black mercenaries, we will be in the first chapter of the Turner Diaries. As for the military, the barely trained women and minorities are only a support system for the few actual highly trained combat soldiers, that are mostly white and right wing. The cities can not support themselves, all it would take is for the trucks to stop rolling, nothing they produce is critical to our survival. Think Leningrad, but with the addition of low IQ pavement apes. I wouldn’t underestimate how fast the Shit could hit the fan.

     >Make a list of 70 million people you hate.
    > Start destroying their lives.
    > You just backed 70 million gun owners into a corner.
    > That list is available to those 70 million people too.
    > Millions of hungry disenfranchised gun owners band together with their new list bros.
    > It turns out that not being on that list is like being on a list.
    > List bros start showing up at the addresses not on the list.
    > Seriously what could go wrong?

    • Replies: @WagnersFirstViolin
  79. There will be no civil war or secession. Whites and the right are in too weakened a position for that. The way forward is acts of sabotage and terrorism carried out by individuals or very small (i.e. < 5) cells.

    People who aren't comfortable with that can engage in "Irish democracy" – massive, passive resistance to governmental dictates and rules.

  80. @Vidi

    Cops and soldiers may have very dangerous weapons and lots of backup, but their friends and family at home don’t.

  81. anarchyst says:

    The author’s premise:
    /”Another problem for reds is that large cities—the distribution centers—such as Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles—are in blue hands as are ports and international airports. Effectively, this cuts reds off from outside resources.”/
    ..can be demonstrably taken apart. Yes, the major cities are the locations where the major infrastructures exists, but in order to “feed and supply the rest of the country”, these distribution centers need to get their product to market, which have to go through “red-controlled territory”.
    This gives “red state territory” a lot of clout, especially when distribution channels can be denied. If truckers decide that they have had enough, all bets are off. Diversion of resources being trucked through “red state territory” is also a good possibility.

  82. Cilcoffin says:

    True, but it also needs to be said those demonising today’s Christian non PC Russia are some of the same guys (or their heirs) who loved the old Soviet system, constantly insisting at the time it was a peaceful union with and merely a different “social system” to our own. Then they preached “detente” and disarmament, now they are busy Sovietising their own countries while aggressively threatening Russia’s own borders in a way that even the fiercest cold warrior would never have contemplated .

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  83. Erebus says:

    For the past decade I have heard hundreds if not thousands of stories of the jaw dropping incompetence, insouciance and laziness of the American military.

    If you’d add “corruption” to your list, I could tell similar stories.

    A good friend of mine with a long career in the automotive industry took an offer to manage a large repair depot in the M.E. They repaired all manner of military vehicles other than Abrams tanks (which are normally shipped back to the US) and a few other “heavy metal” vehicles. The stories he tells of the shop he tried and ultimately failed to bring under control makes one’s eyes roll. Within a week of arriving he found all manner of discrepancies in the books and went digging. What he found shocked him, as no facility could stay in business with such levels of apparent mismanagement. Or so he thought until he figured out the game(s) being played and finally resigned in disgust.

    At the tail end of each of those stories there was some otherwise incompetent but fantastically pompous officer getting equally fantastically rich. The standard M.O. is to retire with a fancy pension, and come back as a “contractor” to milk your Rolodex dry. Your brother put \$500k in his kitty, but you can bet somebody above him put \$5M, or \$50M in theirs. I’m sure my friend’s stories are the tip of an enormous iceberg of corruption that makes up much of the ~\$800B US “defence budget”.

    It’s over. It’s too far gone.

    One wonders if the USM knows that, and whether someone who doesn’t does something stupid like attack the Russians in Syria, or Iran, or China in the SCS. I’ve long thought that the trigger for internal breakup in the US would come from a short, sharp, local exchange with a peer that blew the USM’s claims to fame out of the water – literally and figuratively.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  84. When Churchill proclaimed in his famous 1946 speech in Missouri that “an iron curtain has descended across the continent”, he was, with stunning hypocrisy, complaining about the same border that he and Stalin had drawn up together at their conferences in Teheran, Moscow, and Yalta in 1944 – 1945. His and FDR’s spineless appeasement of Stalin at Yalta in 1945 in particular dwarfs the so-called appeasement of Hitler at Munich in 1938.

    It was also in this speech that Churchill created the fiction that a million US soldiers’ lives had been saved by the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Truman had already falsely inflated the number to 100,000 in his speech announcing the first bombing the day after it occurred.

    One might also note that US troops invaded China in 1900 and Russia in 1918, and the democratically elected government of Iran was replaced by a brutal dictator in 1953 by the CIA. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging the terrible past crimes of American imperialism. That is how we understand why things are the way they are today. They don’t “hate us for our freedom” but for what we have done to them.

    • Replies: @JimB
  85. Trickster says:

    Great point.

    Also “today weapons in the hands of the military are devastating blah blah”

    It seems to me that has always been the case, Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan come to mind YET the devastating capability of those weapons did not prevail in a jungle environment, in an urban environment and not in a desert/ mountain environment. In all these conflicts the AK, rocket launchers. IED;s and motorbikes trumped sophisticated weapons systems.

    At a certain point these devastating weapons become a bit of a joke as when the US dropped the “Mother of All Bombs” in Afghanistan. As was touted this was a “message to the terrorists, a game changer” and a whole lot of shit talk. Granted the monster killed some goats and perhaps some old men drinking tea but fighting continued to rage simultaneously in the next valley. The point is once the enemy sees these wonder weapons are ineffective their use becomes a source of amusement for the recipients and frustration for the users. In other words the recipients of the devastating technology received the message and wiped their asses with it ! Conversely, the idiots who dropped the bomb wondered “what happened ? it had little effect ” DUH

    The WILL to fight (and die) is what ultimately wins and we can see the will of the opponents in the three theatres mentioned above.

    Lets not fool ourselves, that WILL does not exist in the US.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Joe Levantine
  86. Cilcoffin says:
    @The Alarmist

    I had to same idea until I realized it will not have escaped the notice of our enemies that this will leave the most awkward section of the population alive and kicking. They can double down and make it really hard not to be vaccinated, but then face an even bigger proportion of survivors who won’t be bossed around by them. They must be banking on enough of the vaccinated covidians surviving to cater to their needs and deal with the “rebels”. It’s in the lap of the gods, but it may still all blow up in their faces ….

  87. Richard B says:

    Your comment was somewhat factual but very oversimplified and therefore inaccurate.

    China’s success was almost entirely dependent on the hostile elite in the US (and not just the US) exporting jobs, technology and a big chunk of its economy to China in the elite’s attempt to crush once and for all the host popultion, especially the small and medium independent businesses of the middle class and all production associated with the working-class.

    You’re right that, to a certain extent we’ll muddle along, at least for a while, and you’re right that we’ll resemble more and more a third world country, we’re already there in many ways.

    But third world countries are, for the most part, racically and culturally homogenous. And even when they aren’t racially homogenous (Brazil) they are culturally far more so than the US.

    But the US is simply way too fractured and fragmented within its still majority race (Whites) and, though rarely mentioned, not at all unified with each of the other races and certainly not in the coalition of the fringes, which will have its own civil war of sorts to contend to as soon as Whites are subdued once and for all.

    And, by China, of course, we mean The CCP. And their relation with the Chinese people is by no means solid as a rock. On the contrary. That’s why they’re so dependent on censorship, coercion and force, and why the hostile elite admires their model enough to imitate it.

    But there’s a snake in this garden. And it’s this:

    The effort to impose a social order that is free of control and sustained by force only increases the uncontrolled exercise of naked power. And it’s exactly that force, constantly applied, that undermines the very social institutions their power controls.

    And when force fails, as it inevitably does, there’s no alternative. This is the reason civilization was created in the first place, to circumnavigate the use of force. Exactly because it’s not only counter-productive, but fatal to any elite’s long-term success. That’s why what we’re really witnessing is nothing less than

    The Pyrrhic Victory of The Hostile Elite.

    The hostile elite has eaten its own meal ticket, so to speak. That’s why it’s currently engaged in a Fire Sale where Everything Must Go! and with only one buyer – China, or, The CCP. A group of people who, unlike the now completely defeated and demoralized host population of the USA, don’t exactly strike one as being all that into power-sharing.

    • Replies: @Anon
  88. Realist says:

    Is America’s Future a Civil War?

    Those in power are sowing dissidence, dissension, and strife in an effort to implement more control over the populace. This will afford them total control over the entire population.

  89. Nisbe says:

    If the Holohoax actually happened, and the Allies really did save Jews from evil gas chambers, Jews should be building monuments to their White rescuers and singing their praises. Instead, they write article after article, policy after policy, about how all Whites need to be sterilized and exterminated. They are ungrateful to their liberators. Men charged into machine gun fire to save them, and now they’re telling the generations that came after that they all deserve to die for the crime of being White.

    Thus begs the following questions:
    If the Holohoax was real, and Jews hate their liberators, doesn’t that prove Hitler right about them?
    Or alternatively, if Jews feel free to attack their liberators and have no guilt in doing so, doesn’t that prove the Holohoax never happened?

    • Replies: @Trickster
    , @Miville
  90. Dr. X says:

    Correct. Expect intense suppression of right-wing political organizing, communications, civil liberties, economic punishment of dissidents, and restrictions on gun ownership — but no civil war. A couple of people might pop off, like McVeigh, but they’ll be made an example of and will be used as an excuse for further repression.

  91. Richard B says:
    @Joe Stalin

    All of this GI Joe talk is entirely beside the point. And the point is, neither civil war or secession, but an intolerable cultural incoherence and corresponding societal collapse. The country won’t go out with a bang or a whimper. It’ll just drop dead.

  92. The biggest problem with civil war is cameras everywhere.

  93. @Herbert Norkus

    So be it. Just get it right this time around.

  94. FB says: • Website
    @Harry Huntington

    You highlight some important points there. If it were to come to this, it may well end up the rural folks, which know how to live off the the land to some extent, will play a key role. They also have most of the weapons, and they are also the population pool for military service, with many such families having multiple veterans.

    They are in no mood to serve any longer. They may also have younger relatives in the service, so in fact the mood within in the services may definitely swing toward the rural core that is also the core of the ‘Red’ folks that may be inclined to resist. Hence, the ability of the military to act may be in question.

    And also this: even a span of as little as a few weeks without electrical grid could be CIVILIZATION ENDING. Taking out a transformer with a just a rifle is easy for someone that knows what they are doing. Replacing that transformer not so much. Could take weeks or even months.

    The fact is that our entire civilizational model is incredibly vulnerable and hangs basically on a thread. More than 90 percent of people live in urban centers that are absolutely dependent on basic infrastructure like power and sanitation. And the food supply network cannot run without power either.

    If you go back even to the depression era, half the population was rural and living off the land. They didn’t have electricity in most rural areas, to begin with. That didn’t come until the New Deal era and the massive buildup of infrastructure.

    Today, very few people could live off the land like that. Turn the lights out for even a week and you will have a meltdown of biblical proportions. If the ‘Red’ rural folks really decide to go to war against the ‘Blue’ cities, there might not be any way to stop the entire modern civilization going down the tubes.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  95. Realist says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Imagine if fuel pipe lines to urban areas were hit, railroad tracks hit, water processing facilities hit; the vision of an easy victory over Red America would quickly come home to the city dwellers.

    My exact sentiments and I have stated such on this blog.

    Since the Deep State and its minions are incapable of self-sufficiency, a reasonable way to defeat them would be to isolate them…blockade their sustenance. Most of the Deep State and their minions are denizens of large cities…they produce nothing of value. The people who actually do productive work…those deplorables of flyover country could cut off their power, water, food and, products from outside.

    If the military intercedes…guerrilla warfare is the best bet. But this must be executed intelligently and with a cool mind…never let anger rule. Disruption of the chain of command is a must. Any quislings* must be immediately dealt with in a harsh manner. When the opportunity arises, those of the Deep State with power and wealth must be eliminated.

    * Quisling is anyone, who is not a member of the Deep State or a minion of the Deep State, but gives support to the Deep State.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  96. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    While many higher ups in the military, both officers and enlisted, may be more concerned for their salaries and pensions, that hardly applies to all. Most do not want to make it a career, thus wouldn’t qualify for a pension, and many who might want to are refused re-enlistment if they don’t make rank fast enough. The military depends on young blood to do the fighting and dying, not a bunch of 40+ year old non-coms counting the days to retirement.

    As the Vietnam War dragged on and became more and more unpopular among young people, the same sentiment happened in the military. “Fragging,” the deliberate killing of officers and non-coms by lower ranking enlisted men, became more and more common. Per Wikipedia, approximately 900 officers and non-coms were fragged from 1969 to 1972.

    The military is obviously aware of this fact, so I think they’ll think twice before ordering strikes on rural whites. Many of the best soldiers today were recruited from those areas. Those young men from farms and small towns grew up with guns, and were taught how to hunt by their fathers. What will they do if ordered to start shooting their friends and families? Anyone issuing such orders better watch their backs.

    • Thanks: Nisbe
  97. @Defcon

    This. Those fat rednecks everyone is mocking are the kind of guys that can repair a car, catch twenty fish in an hour, hunt and dress a deer, weld, basic electricity and all the stuff that means the lattes get made and the debit cards get printed.

    Also, what no one seems to have mentioned is that some of the states may decline to enforce Washington’s diktats. “Irish Democracy” can be a powerful force.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  98. 1865 and 1965 are the key dates of the American empire.(war of northern aggression, suicidal immigration act)

    China and Russia should be white Americans best friends in a future civil war

    Viet Cong and the Chechens showed how to wage Guerrilla warfare

    60 percent of the military is staffed by negros, Hispanic, or females.

    All empires eventually collapse. All empires fall

  99. Realist says:

    On the other hand, the overall national power will decline, and other powers like China (which for all its flaws has not declared war on the working class, nor does it routinely excuse or celebrate incompetence in leadership) will rise and take its place both on the world stage and as the cutting edge of science and culture.

    Yes, the future belongs to China, Russia, and other non-Western countries. America through its intransigence and stupidity is lost.

    • Agree: Fred777
  100. nickels says:

    PCR forgot one possibility-MAGA joining with the bernie bros and antifa crowd. Now that politics is dead, we all have the common goal of revolution. 10 IQ antifa can learn more about marxism from a few well read rednecks than they might think.

  101. @Vidi

    The US high tech weapons are, like many US women, notoriously high maintenance. Many military maintenance technicians are “deplorables”. Draw your own conclusions.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  102. Ugetit says:

    First, under Roosevelt, the Democratic Party called in the Jews and now the Jews call in the browns and blacks.

    And before that the Zionists pushed in Woodie the Wuss and had their way with him.

  103. saggy says:

    How much longer can this idiocy of a ‘stolen election’ last? Trumpists like PCR cannot accept reality, and instead seem to believe preposterous claims of dead voters, corrupt machines, crooked poll workers, all 100% hot air. And remarkably the Trumpists don’t require evidence, they just repeat the claims endlessly.

    Here it is – the idea of a left/right civil war in the US is preposterous – yet it is being foisted by seeming rational people like PCR. What is going on – well, for one thing – a US civil war is the ultimate dream of the usual suspects, that way they won’t need a nuclear east/west war to destroy the goyim.

    And now, the ‘right’ are the revolutionaries. For Christ’s sake – THE IRONY.

    Patrick Little discusses the kosher sandwich …. the basic J game plan, but even he wasn’t ready for the great irony –

    Video Link

  104. Realist says:
    @Harold Smith

    And please stop kidding yourself about Trump. It wasn’t for the benefit of Joe and Jill Sixpack that he seized Syrian oilfields, tried to start a war with Iran, tried to overthrow the Maduro government in Venezuela, tried to stop Nord Stream 2, started a trade war with China, pulled out of all the nuclear treaties, etc. Trump wasn’t just fully onboard with the agenda, he pursued it enthusiastically.

    Harold, where the hell have you been…you were missing for a few months? I totally agree and have been stating the truth about Trump since mid-April 2017 on this blog…I might add, to much derision.

    • Agree: Liza
  105. schrub says:

    Save PARLER. Protect GAB

    Boycott Amazon. Sell its stock shares (symbol AMZN) if you own it.

    Boycott Apple. Sell its stock shares (Symbol AAPL) if you own it


    • Replies: @Nisbe
  106. Ugetit says:

    The standard M.O. is to retire with a fancy pension…

    And some phony “disability, ” and no doubt access to many other perks as well.

    “The feelings of native freedom among the sons of America, and their own good sense taught them, that they did not need the appendages of royalty and the baneful curse of a standing army to support it.”

    – Mercy Otis Warren, History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution vol. 2

  107. Whitewolf says:
    @Harry Huntington

    You need to recall the old George Wallace voters. Most are dead, but the Trump voter is very much like the Wallace voter.

    Voter? What use are voters when The Party decides who won regardless of votes?

    I agree with organisation being needed but a rival political party can’t compete against The Party at the ballot box. That is blatantly obvious now. The 75 million plus Trump voters have been told by The Party that they have no representation in America. Even the republican wing of The Party have told them that. They need to first acknowledge that they currently have ZERO representation before they move forward and organise.

    • Agree: KenR
  108. Jiminy says:

    America daring to use sophisticated, modern weaponry on its own citizens wont go down well at all with other countries. It actually won’t go down well with it’s own people, both believers and non- believers either. And it won’t achieve anything. If you don’t have right on your side then it’s a hollow victory, accepted by few. Example, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Madura, Venezuela’s own version of lech Walesa, must be looking on in delight, wondering if he should intervene in the third world like political mess.

    Apple, lifelog, and twitter need to remember that they are nothing without customers, their fan base. Start locking out customers and they are finished in the dog eat dog world of consumerism. Chinese companies are just waiting in the wings to fill the dark void with their far superior 5G products. Until the latte sucking, soy milk brigade are suffering, then all will continue as it has, unabated. Probably worse even. Rolling stoppages, striking, and French style blockades would hit the opposition hard. Guerrilla tactics like disruption to power supplies and television broadcasts are techniques used in the past. In fact they are techniques used by the u.s. military in recent wars.

    I am certain the majority of Americans realise that the enemy is within the gates, the foe being the illegal Biden government itself. Just how many of the 74 million citizens are to be targeted by the thought police is another unknown. Has the illegal election results been accepted worldwide? I think not. Will UR be on the air later in the year is the \$6000000 question.

  109. Ugetit says:

    Why does anyone with good sense continue to use the anti-Communist Vidkun Quisling’s good name as a term of derision?

    Do people not realize that Commies typically ridicule and slander their enemies and use any other means available to bring them down? I think it’s time that the label, “quisling,” should be a considered a compliment. Why not?

    PS: Please also note that Vidkun Quisling did not support the deep state; he stood against it. It was Frankie and Winnie who supported the “deep state.” What would you have done in VQ’s place?

    • Replies: @Realist
  110. Going after Trump and his supporters is like “poking the bear”. At first for fun, then for sport, and then for the exitement, until the cage breaks and the bear goes berserk and you finally have a civil war on your hands.

    A civil war in America will be between the liberal elites (including Hollywood) and their Deep State and media minions, and against The People, in other words against the ordinary Americans that the Establishment elites depise so completely.

    Hillary Clinton called these ordinary people “the Deplorables”, a slip of the tongue that cost her the 2016-election. But now the Democrats will be off to the races for 2 years on the very same track!

    I wonder if Kamala Harris and the Democrats can even imagine how insane and dangerous this play is…

    Now of course, disarming and dehumanizing the Deplorables is nothing but a Government power play, and they like it that way. But the sweet and additional benefit of a Harris/Biden gun grab will be to humiliate the Deplorables, and to forever put them under the Government thumb. In other words – revenge!

    The Democrats however, appear to actually believe that a civil war can be won by a bunch of Social Justice pajama boys aided by a rapidly demoralized gaggle of wage slaves from the Government. They all fail to foresee how long and brutal a civil war will be in a nation of 400 million privately owned firearms…

    But for now: “Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force.
    And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant, and a fearful master”.

    So good luck with that…

    • Agree: Cthulu Smith
    • Replies: @Nisbe
  111. Trickster says:

    None of this is surprising. One the fact that the whole thing is a fairy tale and two once they get what they want the giver is deemed useless, at least until they can use them again.

    Hence the fact that the Allies gave up their lives to “free them from extermination” that is now irrelevant.

    What is relevant is “what have you done for me lately?”.

    Trump found that out and his daughter takes the Juice pipe. Once he gave them what they wanted indirect tribe affiliation meant nothing. He became just another useless slave. He expected support for a second term but surprise he got the cock instead. That is the way these people operate !

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  112. @Harold Smith

    Agreed. However Americans are tuned into myth and fantasy not reality unless you mean the usual scripted “reality” shows. Trump is a fantasy figure resembling a pro-wrestling entertainer as are all the others from MAGA people to BLM sympathizers–there is little reality to any of their demands or policies. The political process is utterly hopeless and there’s no point in participating because basic information is unavailable unless you really struggle to find out what is going on between the made-up world the media blasts out with one voice and the fantasies of patriots about the Pope being arrested and “white hats” and so on. There are no good guys here only a smorgasbord of grifters and hustlers who not only fool their marks but, often, themselves as well. We must search for meaning elsewhere.

  113. Civil war starts when a significant fraction of the population has cajones. Seeing Americans up close for 30 years, I doubt that.

    Then again, current elites are degenerate and act incredibly stupidly. They stole presidential election, then they stole senate elections in Georgia, they pushed their fraud through, angering huge swaths of people in the US. So, if they were smart and weren’t degenerate, they’d sit tight and make no more moves to antagonize the populace. They do exactly opposite: they labelled anti-fraud demonstrators “internal terrorists” via bought and paid for MSM, they talk about impeachment proceedings a few days before Trump’s official authority ends. These idiotic actions can push a lot of people over the fence. In fact, American elites behave exactly like degenerate Russian imperial elites before 1917. As we all know, Russian imperial elites back then angered people enough to be hung on lampposts.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  114. PCR is a reasonable guy who has a long record of accurate insights into the American situation. But he may be out of his element this civil war issue. To put it bluntly, this left/right and blue/red conflict is and has been engineered by the neural networked highly robust Deep State (DS) that resembles no State ever seen in human experience because, at this point, it is aided and often guided by AI applications. There will be no civil war because the DS won’t allow it–their control over society is that tight. Yes, the conflicts are real but as easily as emotions were stirred up they will be allowed to settle down. Why do I say that? Because the vast majority of Americans live in several fantasy worlds consisting of revolving, emerging, dissipating memes that have little relation to anything rational people might view as reality. This is why political discussion is absurd and a waste of time. Let me be clear here, ALL points of view, ALL tribal groupings live in an imaginary world manufactured by grifters and con artist and, above all, by operatives of the DS who are pledged only to the finance oligarchs who have, from the beginning, been the most influential force within the DS (which began formally in 1947).

    The only way “out” of this situation is for those fantasies to crash and they can only crash with some kind of spiritual revolution and this can mean almost anything–but for me it means a quest for authenticity and that requires discipline and a removing oneself from the fantasy factories that manufacture the memes, however confused and illogical, that guide our lives. This effort only requires minority involvement to be effective so we’ll see.

    Barring major internal changes brought about by a new form of spirituality (it can occur within the old religions) the chaos of today will be brought down, people will get used to the repression, will fear the new diseases (probably manufactured) that will keep them in fear of their lives such that they will demand conformity to the overall Narrative. Dissenters will be purged and punished and conformists will be rewarded with goodies. Credit scores will be used as a virtual social credit score that will keep the riff-raff out of “good” jobs and the rabble will face utter despair and possibly homelessness as we seen in California. Parents will encourage their children to follow orders and stay along accepted lines. In other words current trends will continue as we the people will demand an authoritarian government (sadly for them this government is now so corrupt I’m not sure they can even deliver on that point which will force the Big Tech companies to take on the role of government as they are happy to do at this time but they too are deeply corrupt internally so…). My hope is for a feudal sort of arrangement as a temporary way out of this emergent dystopia.

    • Replies: @Anon
  115. Mefobills says:

    If Trump peels off a large fraction of the GOP vote, perhaps to a new Bull Moose party, unfortunately I still don’t think it will be the death of the Republican party.

    Let’s use another example, rather than Bull Moose party. Your point remains though.

    The election of 1912 was a banker funded affair. And yes, the usual (((suspects))) were heavily involved.

    On one side was the Morgan interests, and on the other side was the “city banks” of London, i.e. Rothschild.

    When Morgan died, it was found out that he was part of the Rothschild’s operation anyway.

    Bull Moose party was funded into existence to then get Teddy Roosevelt to run. The objective was to split the vote away from Taft.

    Taft was adamant that he would not pass the Aldrich amendment, which was the forerunner to the Federal Reserve Act.

    Teddy siphoned votes away from Taft, and then the “bankers” man, Woodrow Wilson was elected.

    Woodrow was compromised by the most expensive “poon” in history, as he was banging another professor’s wife. Our Zionist international banker (((friends))) had the goods on Woodrow.

    Woodrow then passed the progressive era acts of 16’th and 17’th amendment, then Federal Reserve act. In 1913, the first IRS 1040 form was issued.

    All of these acts are like gears in a machine, which work together to undo Federalism. The 16’th is direct taxation, which diminishes state’s rights, and allowed the central government to grow into a monolith. Before the 16’th the Federal Government got is revenue primarily via tariffs.

    The 17’th also reduced states rights. The founders in the first articles wanted Senators to be sent directly to Washington by state’s legislatures. Direct election of Senators makes them populists, and is diametrically against the wishes of the founders, and unbalances the polity. Only the house is to be populist. The 17’th is the worst amendment by far, as it removed power from the states. The founders intended on the states to be small kingdoms, with local powers.

    The republic failed, especially by 1912, and the intrigue by the (((usual suspects))) who operate behind the scenes using their money power was a dominant variable. In this case, the money power of a sovereign people was privatized, as it became a “reserve system” of private banks – basically a private money trust.

    As I stated earlier, if you have a country, and don’t have sovereign money, you don’t have a country.

    How many Americans of that day understood what was going on behind the scenes? This idea of democracy is idle and futile:

    Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most conspicuous and sacred responsibility, all talks of the sovereignty of Parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.

    William Lyon Mackenzie King

  116. Realist says:

    Why does anyone with good sense continue to use the anti-Communist Vidkun Quisling’s good name as a term of derision?

    He sold his country, Norway, out to an invading power. It’s in all the history books…read’em

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  117. Since President Trump and his allies have pretty much exhausted all avenues to present evidence that the election was stolen from him, I have perhaps one solution that would, in my opinion, go a long way to prove what President Trump has continued to say (election fraud, stolen, etc.). Present all of the evidence to the American people, via all news outlets available, and let the American people witness what the States, Congress, and the Courts would not. However, let it be evidence of actual fraud or exactly how votes were stolen. It HAS to be more than just SAYING it was stolen. Treat it as though the American people were given the power that the court system has; to weigh the evidence and render a verdict BASED ON THE EVIDENCE. Again, words mean NOTHING. Actual evidence does. Please don’t ask me to believe what Democrats or Republicans SAY. SHOW US THE PROOF. President Trump has nothing to lose at this point by going this route. Now is the time to go to the American people with the PROOF!

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  118. Agent76 says:

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  119. Miville says:

    I see a civil war coming though because it is clearly in the hostile elites’ interests and work portfolios. America’s job for humanity’s hostile elites is done, like Trump’s. Their only holiday to their best servicemen is the sack. What humanity’s hostile elites want in as many lands as possible is not Americanization but Somalization. America’s purpose and manifest destiny was to seduce the whole of humanity in abandoning their cultures for arrant materialism so as to make them pliable to a future world Israeli Empire (though that does not mean necessarily that such an Empire will remain Jewish for very long). Trump’s only work was to prepare his crowd for a now inevitable Civil War, and the purpose of that Civil War is to unbuild what was built from the first onwards. It will first break the US into two warring camps, leading to a kind of Southern revenge resulting in the States’ rights being more and more fiercely asserted to the point they will turn into warring feudal states depending on international (mostly Asian) capital’s aid to pursue their feuds, like the Africa and ME you have been knowing of. The chickenhawks the US have sent to damage so many countries are coming home to roost.

    • Replies: @noname27
    , @noname27
  120. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s where you’re stuck: presuming that red/blue is the only cleavage plane in the US. The only real division is the US state versus the humans. Cynthia McKinney knows this. That’s why she’s been so rabidly attacked for so long (Alison Weir reminds us today that Ossof got hired for his congress job by purging her.) The PCHR advocates exploit this division this too (that’s People Centered Human Rights). And PDHRE (People’s Decade of Human Rights Education) and PPEHRC (Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign) and US Human Rights Network. These are like the Trotskyites of human rights.

    To repress this tendency the US regime has mostly limited its repression to censorship in the Mockingbird media. But when the Greens under Jill Stein tried to bring human rights into electoral politics, the regime escalated repression to use and threat of arbitrary detention (of Nader, Stein, and Honkala.) Under Hawkins the Greens adopted the Black Alliance for Peace criteria, which is PCHR subsumed under the framework of the right to peace (the world consensus is, peace is the fulfillment of all human rights.)

    So think bigger. Socialism is not revolutionary enough to topple this police state. Trump-type Poujadism is nowhere near revolutionary enough. The real revolutionary ideology is bottom-up human rights. If a charismatic political celebrity like Tulsi or Grayson or Rush Holt picked it up, they could wipe the floor with both of the state parties.

    • Replies: @nickels
    , @Oemiktlob
  121. @TG

    Concur. Any other scenario is pure fantasy.

    • Agree: Ugetit
  122. @Commentator Mike

    As I can see Trump is only one alpha male among patsy politician with leadership personality.
    The trouble with is that he is too direct,lacking in cunning and finesse.

  123. nsa says:
    @Harry Huntington

    “George Wallace…………”
    You left out the critical last chapter of the George Wallace story. He ended his days in a wheelchair and constant intense pain after being surgically shot in the lower spine as an object lesson to others with third party ambitions. The judenpresse quickly reduced him to a pathetic object of derision and throughout his home state the morons referred to him as “Crip” Wallace.

  124. Ugetit says:

    He sold his country, Norway, out to an invading power. It’s in all the history books…read’em

    He did, eh? That’s the Commie comic book version. I already told you what he did, so you should take yer own advice and go check some real history books if you don’t believe it instead of allowing yourself to be influenced by “deep state” mythology or just use your head and base your opinions on what’s going on here and now and try to extrapolate a bit.

    Frankie and Winnie were the ones who sold their countries to the usurer/mafia “deep state usurper/invaders.

    What would you have done in VQ’s place??? I bet you’d have dropped yer shorts and bent over for the Zio-Commies like Winnie and Frankie did. Multiple times, or should I say continuously?

    • Replies: @Realist
  125. Miville says:

    Simple answer : the Jews think they have been saved by gays, by the International Gay Pride (who used to be predominant in the english armies), not by whites, as after all the gays were also targeted for Holocaust, hence their rage to turn all Whites into Gays. Everything they do love in the Western World, starting with Ancient Greece, is essentially gay.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  126. @James Charles

    Production line for ball bearings is relatively simple.

  127. Catdog says:

    Why haven’t any instances of MAGA-related violence been reported since the desk defecation on the 6th? Surely the media must be hoping for some?

    Is it believable out of 74 million trump supporters, nobody is off their meds and angry enough to get kinetic? None of the people who have had their lives ruined by lockdowns decides he has nothing to lose? It seems statistically impossible.

    If Red Tribe willingness to use violence can be imagined as a bell curve, with civil war starting when we get near the top of it, it seems we still haven’t even hit the far edge.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  128. Trinity says:

    Well, I don’t know about a so-called, “Civil War” but there has been a war on White America for a minimum of 60 years and counting. I think most of our so-called leaders are more worried about Israel and the Middle East anyhow. Oh well, the Super Bowl is coming up and all the normies will be too occupied to really give a damn. Make sure you wear your mask while shopping for drinks and food to munch on while you watch ANOTHER anti-White half time show AGAIN, Whitey.

    • Thanks: Ugetit
    • Replies: @Nisbe
  129. anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:

    No, no civil war, stability is restored. The US civil/military command structure has chosen its head of state. William Burns as DCI.

    He’s all for great-power confrontation with Russia in breach of the non-intervention principle, so he’s ideologically reliable for CIA. Over time CIA has replaced all the diplomats with sneaky weasel ratfuckers fomenting coups, so Burns paid his dues as a member of the DoS Junior Spy Cadets. But even as he works his puppet Biden, Burns will be a hood ornament at CIA. DO will give him the mushroom treatment. Burns’ job will be to lie for them.

    Your government is CIA. They’re the ones who can kill you and torture you and get away with it. Do not ever forget it.

  130. @Zarathustra

    “Civil war can happen only after hyperinflation accompanied with lawlessness.”
    “And that will happen only if US loses its international position.”

    Wise words.

    To stave off hyperinflation, the illegitimate regime in control of Washington DC must destabilize other parts of the world, to keep global demand for the US dollar strong. They’ve been doing this for decades, and the world community has had enough of their BS.

    Patriots should prepare, prepare, and prepare. You are now an occupied people, waiting for the collapse to come. When it does, rise.

  131. @Mr. Cracker

    “As the great general Sun Tzu stated “In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy’s country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good.””

    …especially when it is our country!

  132. @yurivku

    Not really. But the fate of US will be that it will remain alone in the world.

  133. anarchyst says:
    @Luis Fierro

    The “problem” is that the “mainstream media” will not allow the TRUTH to come out. ((They)) have attempted to shut off Trump’s access to the public and have been partially successful.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  134. Phoenix says:
    @G J T

    They’re sucking the last bit of blood and preparing to move on, at which point we will of course have to clean up the mess left behind.

    I had a similar realization/metaphor occur to me after the 2009 Wall Street handouts:

    “The rulers looting the country’s wealth is like stripping the last pieces of meat off of a cow carcass before it is tossed overboard.”

    Best to keep track of the major looters so that their ill-gotten gain can be redistributed later no matter where they hide out.

  135. Ugetit says:
    @Give up

    There won’t be another civil war here.

    True, unless the globalist mafiosi think it’s in their best interests for the time being.

    The first one really was mostly a war between states, anyway, too.

    No, it was not; it was only sold that way along with “libberatink da slaves.” Both versions are BS.

    It was a war of the Northern bankers, with globalist pretensions, who essentially wound up with “everything,” against the Southern planters who wound up with “nothing.” The worldwide price of cotton shot up due to a shortage of the stuff so who benefitted from that? The war also benefitted the Sassoons (look up that crime network) and their cotton/textile industry in India (one plantation had 15,000 slaves) at the time, but that has to be just a random coincidence, right? Were those slaves libberatid at the time? Why or why not?

    Long story short; question everything especially the sh!t you’ve been told. You can begin by dropping and laughing at the comic book stories and have enough curiosity to peek behind the curtains. When you do that, you’ll no doubt be compelled to mock 99.9% of the crap you and the rest of us have been fed from the nipple. You’ll probably quit voting too, among other things.

    • Thanks: Nisbe
    • Replies: @Give up
    , @anonymous
  136. @anonymous

    And pray tell: How does one get to have their commenting history hidden on this site?

  137. Tyrants only speak the language of force. A tsunami of blood will get their attention, especially if it’s theirs.

  138. nickels says:

    politics is dead. Tulsi and Grayson and anybody else isnt going to do jack.

    We all know what has to be done.

  139. Oemiktlob says:

    “The only real division is the US state versus the humans.”

    This is always the problem with any state, so, logically speaking, those who are not opposed to the state, its existence and its administrators, are, in a very real sense, anti-human. Some like to soft-pedal it and deny this truth to avoid the logical consequences, but, there it is in black and white and the logic is inescapable.

  140. @Nisbe

    Although you make some good points, I think that you are painting with far to broad a brush when you say “the military can’t win an insurgency war”. That is not a forgone conclusion, and there are many factors. The military essentially won against armed insurgents in Guatemala, El Salvador, Chile, and many other places (Russian civil war comes to mind as well). A big part of it is how far they are willing to go, how divided the population is, etc. It took the Irish some 700 years to get out from under the (((british))) rule, and they have already fallen under the globalists who are pretty much the same. I live in Guatemala, and the Guatemalan civil war is very relevant to this topic. Although the insurgents where painted as marxists and communists, they where largely just farmers and laborers who were being squeezed to death economically. The government did not play nice; massacring whole villages suspected of harboring insurgents was common place. The peace of 1996 kept the government and wealthy (US backed elites and multinational corporations) in power and the workers and villagers got almost nothing. Some 200,000 people where killed the vast majority civilians. If every so called conservative came out in force and worked together could the people win? absolutely. Is this something which is reasonable to expect in the near future? no way. It is true that a organized and most of all determined guerrilla force can be very effective, but it is not true that the Government cannot win. Organization is critical, and that is why the NSA has taken spying to the next level to pre-empt any real organization.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  141. “What Trump and his supporters, and perhaps the Kremlin, do not understand is that real evidence no longer counts.”

    Exactly, PCR. This of course has been the case since 9.11.01, but the accumulation of falsehoods since then is reaching critical mass, and the powers-that-be clearly dangerously believe–as we’ve seen with COVID, with Ukraine, with Russiagate, and now with the stolen election–that the vast mass of sheeple will accept any pronouncement from them as true, no matter how much in contradiction with empirical reality. And this tends to include the most educated and powerful segments of society, who stand to lose the most were the truth to come out.

    Will those who do see the truth be able to overcome this? I know that, on the left–the real left, the one to which I subscribe, not the crypto-fascist pseudo-left of BLM/Antifa or the global capitalist fake left of the Dem party–we who do see the truth are in a small minority. The general middle-of-the-road population is even less likely to want to see that their rulers are willing to sacrifice them in the twinkling of an eye. The conservatives are more aware of this–not the veteran Repub swamp creatures, but honest paleoconservatives–but they too are few in number.

    Our only hope–and it is indeed a slim one–is that the rank-and-file of the “forces of order” (police, military, National Guard), will refuse to serve the institution of a police state.

    Time will tell, but I’m not confident.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  142. geokat62 says:

    • Agree: Nisbe
  143. @Catdog

    I think that people still have too much to lose. I have three children ages 6, 3, and 1. I also realize that the only chance for the west in general is violent revolution. As much as I would like to overthrow the (((rulers))), I do not want to act alone or foolishly jump the gun. So, we wait….

    • Agree: Anonymous Jew
    • Replies: @Catdog
    , @cylindrical crown
  144. HT says:

    As I have noted previously, the USA as we know it will only be saved if an extremely ruthless leader, almost Hitleresque, rises up to destroy the Marxists. You cannot live in the same country with Bolsheviks because their only purpose is to enslave you. Trump tried to defeat them by playing fair and instead they destroyed him. This is what the German people were facing with the communists in the 1930’s. Hitler knew the only way to stop them was eliminating them and that is exactly what he did. He created the camps just for them. Then we joined up with the globalists and communists to destroy him. These communists masquerading as Democrats can turn us into the Soviet Union very quickly if they wish. They already control the military and law enforcement and can also use BLM and antifa as their muscle. The Democrats are already preparing gun registration legislation which will eventually be used to take your guns.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  145. @AnonFromTN

    Most of us here have no first-hand knowledge whether Trump’s re-election was stolen, so we must base our opinions on what we read and view. But, I’m convinced that the case was made many times over that Trump and his 75 million supporters were robbed. It happened in my home state of PA, where Philly is a cesspool of corruption.

    However, PCR and AnonFromTN claim that the two Georgia Senate races were also stolen. Upon what evidence is that assertion made? The GOP had two months to correct the steal that happened in Georgia. What did they do during that time? Surely those elections should have been more closely scrutinized than any Senate races in history. Are the republicans impotent before the terrifying Stacey Abrams?

    Is it just possible that RINO republicans David Purdue and billionaire Kelly Loeffler (who wasn’t elected in the first place), were terrible candidates who deserved to lose? And let’s not forget the increasingly unhinged Lin Wood, who told Trump’s supporters not to participate in another stolen election.

    I can’t get too worked up over the fact that republicans lost their tiny Senate majority. Now, if they have any brains (which is doubtful), they’ll replace the incompetent, mumbling turtle man Mitch McConnell as their leader with a fighter who can stand toe-to-toe with the evil Chuck Schumer.

  146. What about weapons? How can the reds lose when guns are a household item and blues would never dirty themselves by owning one? The answer is that unlike the War of Northern Aggression in the 1860s, today the weapons in the hands of the military are devastating compared to those in the hands of the public. Unlike in the past, it is impossible for a citizens’ militia to stand against the weapons and body armor that the military has. So, unless the military splits, the reds are outgunned. Never believe that the Establishment would not release chemical and biological agents against red forces. Or for that matter nuclear weapons.

    Afghanistan says hi. Two weeks after the US military slinks away, all traces of its supposed victory over the Taliban will be gone. Goatherders with half-century-old guns and improvised explosives harried and held out against the most advanced military in the world for going on 20 years. The American military was like a gorilla swinging at gnats.

    The hills of Appalachia and the Rockies will be similar swamps.

    • LOL: Cthulu Smith
  147. JimB says:

    They don’t “hate us for our freedom” but for what we have done to them.

    And by “us” you mean them, the horrible Ivy League progressive elites controlling this country for the past 100 years. And yet it remains every American parent’s dream to send a child to Harvard to become a member of the oppressive, rent-seeking golden class.

  148. @anarchyst

    Trump’s main failure is that he did not create an alternative media, like say his own TV, internet platform, etc. which he should have worked on from Day 1 seeing how the MSM was all against him and his message – perhaps nationalising the Internet companies as FB suggests or at least curbing their censorship rights. He did recognise what they were up to by bringing up “fake news” to everyone’s attention but he did nothing about it. So we end up in this farcical situation where POTUS is banned from FB, Twitter, e-mail. What a shame.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @glib
    , @anon
  149. Chinaman says:

    If you want to know what happend to America next, look at China during the warring states period and the three kingdom period 2000 years ago.

    Nations that have not done the necessary genetic amalgamation and race miscegenation until there is only one race will ultimately be partitioned along ethic and racial lines. Texas and California will return its rightful owner, Mexico and there will be black nations will rise in cities such as Detroit and Baltimore. The conferderare states will become white enclaves.
    There will be interneucine warfare for a 100 years where 30-50% of the population will die. That happened to china many times.

    This is America’s manifest destiny.

    Do you know why Hans are 90℅ of the Chinese population? Cuz those that ain’t died. It will be interesting to know whether whites or brown\blacks will become the dominant race in the next nation that arise from the ashes of America.

    • Replies: @PolarBear
  150. Catdog says:

    Yes, it seems many people are willing to fight right now but they aren’t willing to commit suicide while accomplishing nothing. Nothing will happen until Red tribe either feels like they can pull of mischief with a good chance of getting away with it, or they think they’re doomed either way.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  151. IronForge says:

    Constitutional Convention needed to Break Up the Republic without resorting to War.

    MIGA, Masons(Solomon’s Temple Zionists), Dual Citizens, Catholics, BLM/AntiFa, and OpenBorders should be Separated from Rational Members of Society.

  152. Nisbe says:

    Parler just screwed all its users due to massive negligence (or willing self-sabotage):

  153. AReply says:

    There is no evidence of a stolen election. Trump has been using the Karl Rove media playbook to instigate an uprising and when the fire is started and spreading in his base, then he points to it as “evidence” and demands a hearing, which is dismissed because he has no actual evidence, but the dismissal is fed back to base as a cover-up which gets them more riled up and feeds the next cycle. There is no other substance to his gambit. And he certainly doesn’t give a flying fuck about anyone unless they “love” him in a creepy kind of pedo self satusfying love. The man has probably never commited an actual generous act in his entire life. He gives to get. These are just the open attributes of the man and his working style. Listen to him on call with Georgia State Senator: we wants the results tipped, he’s pressing like a CEO, which always has a mafia-like undertone, and the SoS office is saying you keep talking about evidence but you never give us your records, to wit he changes the subject to insist they should “find” the evidence themselves especially considering all the support he’s given to Georgia GOP candidates. As far as Trump is concern if he lost it was a fraudulent election and if he can be made to win it is un-fraudulent!

    So anyone here bemoaning the death of America at the loss of DJT, take a look thru better binoculars at your ambassador of death, also DJT. If Trump is all you are grinding an intellectual axe over you deserve beheading by that same axe.

    WRT the financial forces of empire, it’s control of politics, penchant for war, and cowing of the public, maybe you should do a bit more study of the work in this vein by your despised radical left as they are about a full century ahead of you. They just don’t happen to get into demonizing their adversaries based on “race” because the world has already suffered enough of bigots. As to white grievance, blame yourselves as look what you have done to each other. Instead of working to build a better world, you sit around jerking off about the purity of your blood and the slope of your foreheads. But whichever way you come at it, you may think you’re great bearers of civilization, but somehow your whole complaint is that others are exploiting you. Basically you hate being treated like Animals. Huh funny thought from the master race.


    PCR is a demented old fool. If he’s actually still alive. I believe he was replaced by a computer program.


    Or shut the fuck up.

    But after months there is no evidence. Trump bullshitted his way thru to milk a 1/4 billion from his base to pay back some loans coming due, and acted like enough of an ape doing it to get banned from private media conplex. The First Amendment does apply, to public speech, not to the internal standards of private media companies.

    If Trump hates being banned, which is in no way unusual on the interwebz, he can run his own service you fuctards. As to the rights vs responsibilities of national public figures: Isn’t that what all your bitching is about? How unfair it all is in this harsh Darwinian marketplace? So what we have here is white libertarian champions of personal responsibility chomping at the bit about how the system they built in all its perfection is failing to look after their personal welfare so they may have to smash it?


    • LOL: GazaPlanet
  154. Decades of neglect have made infrastructure supporting the metropolitan centers of prog power, e.g. water supplies, power supplies, sewage systems, railroad and highway transportation, and warehousing facilities, highly susceptible to sabotage. It helps that many of those manning these systems are those whom Hilary Clinton deemed deplorables, i.e. ordinary Americans sympathetic to freedom and the populist cause.

    The populations of these areas contain large concentrations of the USA’s dysfunctional underclass. A few days of deprivation would set this group on a rampage of uncontrollable looting, destruction, arson, and violence. The city centers and their prog populations would be hors de combat within a few days, at most a week.

    A low intensity civil war doesn’t require a modern military to be successful. The IRA and other urban guerilla movements have shown the way. Constantly target prog leaders and their families for assassination as opportunities present themselves. Target their supporters likewise, the MSM, the prog academics, antifa/blm leaders and membership, radical academics. Target the institutions supporting these people. The schools to which the elites send their children, their places of relaxation and entertainment, the methods they use to travel.

    The more such actions occur the less the likelihood the perpetrators will be caught and the more new recruits there will be to the cause.

    Don’t worry about bad publicity or other negative consequences. We already get those for daring to exercise our God given and constitutionally protected rights.

    Always remember: We did not start this war. The prog elites did when they unleashed antifa/blm to riot, loot, burn and kill with impunity; defunded and shackled police to encourage an unprecedented wave of violence within the nation’s dysfunctional Negro urban underclass; further encouraged that violence with unrestrained anti-White rhetoric; openly stole this current Presidential election; and used their illicitly gained power to immediately begin a reign of suppression and terror against us.

    There is no need to wait for an organization or leadership. If enough competent individuals or small groups act independently, striking hard and fast, the consequences progs will face will quickly snowball.

    MOST IMPORTANT: Remember not to trust anyone without a very careful vetting. The Deep State and its provocateurs are already out there, terrified of just the tactics outlined above.

  155. @Cilcoffin

    True, but it also needs to be said those demonising today’s Christian non PC Russia are some of the same guys (or their heirs) who loved the old Soviet system(…)

    They hate Russia because it apostatized from communism. That’s its unforgivable transgression.

    The left’s hatred is always especially directed towards those that thwart the advance of communism, which according to Marx was destined inevitably to triumph. Proving that hypothesis wrong, though it has been done any number of times, provokes the left’s most venomous response.

    Thus, for example, Pinochet, who ended Chile’s social wars and introduced Chicago-school economics, is forever anathematized as a bloody dictator, even though his repressive measures were mild compared (for example) to those of Fidel Castro, and he voluntarily stepped down when he thought his job was done.

  156. There has been a war on white people for many years even though most white people didn’t know about it.

    Black men rape 20,000 white women every year.
    1500 little white girls in Rotherham were turned into sex slaves by muslim filth.

    White Christian Americans (and whites all over the globe) are like Palestinians or white South Africans……rapidly approaching a point where they have nothing left to lose.

    Our people should be allowed to form a separate nation as all people have the right to self determination.

    However….those nice jews do not believe that white people should have any rights whatsoever….so we have a lethal difference of opinion.

    The left (jews) is willing to riot and burn and murder to have its’ way. They will literally stomp you to death just for the color of your white skin.

    We are dealing with evil scum. (This is not hyperbole but truth)

    Until whites are willing to fight back, whites will face intimidation, persecution, incarceration and death.

    The GOP does not figure into the calculation at all as they might as well be on the left as they refuse to fight back in any significant way…..and with rampant election fraud there is no hope at the ballot box anyway.

    So….if some lone wolves were to start removing the likes of say….Soros or Dorsey or Bezos or Zuck, …….start putting the fear of God into some of the slimy shitheads… them a taste of their own medicine…..this might level the playing field a bit.

    I don’t understand how the left can think that they can simply “cancel” people at will without major blowback.

    They are completely fucking up the slow boiling of the frog…..the frogs are going to jump out of the pot….light the oven…..and throw the scumbags in.

    Ahhh…..but I”m just a hopeless romantic.

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  157. @Give up

    I hear the word “fascist” used constantly, but I truly don’t fully understand what it is. But, to me the Warren Court is what I imagine fascism to be.

    Warren was the minion of a fascist regime when, as governor, he aided it in shipping native citizens of his state off to concentration camps. Warren’s later critics never complained about his role in that.

  158. Always remember: We did not start this war. The prog elites did when they unleashed antifa/blm to riot, loot, burn and kill with impunity; defunded and shackled police to encourage an unprecedented wave of violence within the nation’s dysfunctional Negro urban underclass; further encouraged that violence with unrestrained anti-White rhetoric; openly stole this current Presidential election; and used their illicitly gained power to immediately begin a reign of suppression and terror against us.

    And don’t forget the other part of the prog elite war on normal Americans: the war against the family and to warp our childrens’ minds to normalize the queer and tranny agenda. Even to the point of mutilating children in Texas:

  159. Dario says:

    Why does the author write about the Kremlin and nothing about Beijing? 😀

    • Replies: @Trinity
  160. Realist says:

    Another problem for reds is that large cities—the distribution centers—such as Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles—are in blue hands as are ports and international airports. Effectively, this cuts reds off from outside resources.

    People can go a hell of a lot longer without a new television the dick heads in the large cities can go without food, water, power. Cities are not self-sustaining and incapable of surviving without blue state products.

    Just like Giraldi, you can state problems…but never a solution. That seems to be a common thread on this blog.

    Problems will never be solved by those that piss and moan.

    • Replies: @Realist
  161. Malla says:

    At a certain point these devastating weapons become a bit of a joke as when the US dropped the “Mother of All Bombs” in Afghanistan.

    It is not a joke in a financial sense for some powerful people. Making and exploding these sophisticated weapons on some mudhut is big business. American (+Western) taxpayers pay da taxes, some people die (Western soldiers + locals) and some psychopathic people at the top make a lot of money.
    At times the weapons cost more than the GDP of the backward goat herding village they are used against. Using these weapons is like burning a huge stack of cash in some village Afghanistan or Iraq or Vietnam so that a few can take a cut. That is why the God ol USA misses the ole USSR, when it was easy to spend insane amount of resources and the wealth created by the hard work of their peoples (American+NATO as well as Soviet + Warsaw Pact populations) on insane weapons both in sophistication and numbers. But now with a much stronger Russia + rising China, things are looking good.

  162. Realist says:

    One thing is for sure…Udontgetit.

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  163. Realist says:

    Should read…new television than dick heads…

  164. noname27 says: • Website

    America’s purpose and manifest destiny was to seduce the whole of humanity in abandoning their cultures for arrant materialism so as to make them pliable to a future world Israeli Empire (though that does not mean necessarily that such an Empire will remain Jewish for very long).

    That is degenerate Jewish Internationalism in action, not American Empire building. The Jews have used America through the dollar, just like they used Britain and her Empire before them, through sterling. The only difference being, Britain has always been outward looking and expansionist, a natural empire builder, in contrast America is naturally isolationist and inward looking and should have stayed that way.

    That means that America has attempted to do what she was never cut out for.

  165. @ThreeCranes

    “ A liberal is, by definition, a person who, metaphorically and literally, won’t deal with their own shit. Doing so is what deplorables are for, in their estimation.”

    Astute observation. LOL. That could be the best motto of red states to adopt in case of civil war.

  166. PolarBear says:

    A small minority of Whites will most likely be dominant, as in Latin America. Most Whites will fade away willingly but the White cream always rises to the top. Jews will get purged eventually, they are not well liked by many on the left and right. Whites give and give until they can’t give no more. Jews push their luck and suck the life-blood out of nations until both run out. East Asians are more balanced and have good fortunes in their cookies.

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  167. @Zarathustra

    Civil war can happen only after hyperinflation accompanied with lawlessness.
    And that will happen only if US looses its international position.

    All that is necessary for hyperinflation to take place is for the US dollar to lose its status as the world’s reserve currency.

    Uncle Sam is the world’s biggest debtor. Should interest rates return to historic norms, the entire revenue stream of the Federal government would be required to pay entitlements and the debt service.

    Paying entitlements, of course, is key to preventing massive popular unrest. But paying the debt service is essential to preventing the national (and international) economy from collapsing. Banks hold bond portfolios to maintain liquidity, since bonds can be sold quickly if needed, while loans generally can’t be called. What happens when bonds can’t be sold was seen in 2008, when the bottom dropped out of the market for agency bonds (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac). Imagine the market crash that would take place if the bottom dropped out of the market for treasuries! This is to say nothing of the marking-to-market of the Fed’s own portfolio.

    Interest rates are now low because the US government wants and needs them to be. This is made easier because they are even lower everywhere else, in some cases negative. Negative interest rates are a stratagem to drive currencies like the euro down against the dollar, thus rendering euro-denominated exports more favorably priced as against US domestic manufactures.

    But should the dollar lose its reserve status, all this will change. The dollar will plunge, interest rates will rise, and the likely way out is massive inflation, so that the government can pay off cheap what it borrowed dear. This has been a common response to like circumstances in many countries. I recall being in Argentina some decades ago when its peso was inflating at a rate of 1000% a year as a result of the Peronist mismanagement of its economy. The currency had so many zeroes that you had to look quite carefully. A 50,000 peso note at the time was worth about US\$4, about there price of a cab ride in Buenos Aires, and a 500,000 peso note about \$40. If you weren’t attentive you might end up giving a cabbie a very generous tip.

    • Agree: Miro23, Beavertales
  168. Could all this lead to a civil war or are Americans too beat down to effectively resist? That we won’t know until it is put to the test.

    The Covid lockdowns may have toughened some of us up. We’ve been buying a lot more local, for instance. Economizing. Stocking up. Steps on the road to discipline.

    Others wasting away on video games or shopping Amazon are at best fair-weather friends anyway.

    With the First Amendment gone, or restricted to the demonization of targeted persons, such as “the Trump Deplorables,” “white supremacists,” “Southern racists…”

    Same-sex “marriage is the ultimate “white supremacy”– look at the world map. Southerners are the only white Americans who actually like blacks. That’s been their bane for 400 years.

    …the Second Amendment can’t have much life left.

    It never applied to the states until this century, anyway. Unless the states themselves recognized it locally, e.g., when Georgia enacted the first handgun ban in 1837, the state supreme court threw it out– nine years later!– on US Constitutional grounds. Concealment remained prohibited, however.

    the War of Northern Aggression

    This term is divisive to the very people PCR is attempting to unite here, as well as simply infantile.

    You could just as easily call the crushing of the Whiskey Rebellion by the first Virginian president, our invasion of Upper Canada by the third Virginian president, the utilization of subhuman chattel to score more districts and electors at the expense of white states, the federal invasion of Boston in 1851 and 1854 to capture lone individuals, the cockamamie scheme to annex Congoloid Cuba, the rapid passage of the Dixie-backed Sixteenth (and Eighteenth) Amendment, our entry into Europe by the last Virginian president, our constitutionally questionable entry into Korea by a Missourian president, and our rapid (and dishonest) escalation in Vietnam by a Texan president as ‘Wars of Southern Aggression”.

  169. @Trickster

    “ The WILL to fight (and die) is what ultimately wins and we can see the will of the opponents in the three theatres mentioned above.”

    So far, the will to fight and die may not be there. But let the people fall into more despair as the economy sinks combined with technocratic dictatorship that allows jerks like Jack Dorsey and Mark Suckerberg to censor a popular American president, and the tide of discontent might get the Deplorables out of their complacency.

  170. Max Payne says:

    Many, including retired American generals, maintain that the Soviet collapse was faked to put us off guard for conquest.

    Hey man, America isn’t the one pumping out next-gen weapons at an alarming rate (hypersonic missiles, Su-57 stealth fighters, T-14 universal tank chasis, nuclear weapons designed to irradiate beaches, an ungodly mastery of electronic warfare, an entire army of tank-drone weilding paratroopers etc. Etc. Etc.)

    Just sayin’ these don’t sound like defensive weapons.

  171. Nisbe says:

    If the American people have a civil war to fight, it won’t just be against the D party, the R party is no better.

    Trump forced the uniparty to expose itself, and 80+ million people are now against the traitors.

    Just watch LG almost in tears after getting swarmed at the airport:

    The people aren’t stupid, they know the R party is as rotten as the D party, and they are pissed.

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  172. anon[127] • Disclaimer says:

    the dominant ”whites” in latin america are almost entirely crypto joos.

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  173. Fred777 says:

    Plan B requires citizenship and a passport for the country you intend on escaping to. Without that the Wuhan Flu has already closed the door.

  174. Skeptikal says:

    ” We see it right now with Trump supporters falling for the disinformation that Switzerland and Italy are behind the stolen election. Previously, it was Dominion servers in Germany and Serbia that did the deed.”

    Actually, it is very important to establish FACTS, Mr. Roberts.

    Not throw labels around, such as “disinfomration,” which, BTW, is what the Dems are currently doing to discredit those who challenge their “narrative.”

    It is a major mistake to label the notion of intel regarding foreign actors as “disinformation.”

    Have you informed yourself as to the ownership of the Dominion Corporation?

    Has anyone actually investigated the assertions that voting machines were connected to the internet?

    Etc. Lots of questions. Dismissing them, and the people who ask them, is a BIG mistake.

    Similar to the SCOTUS mistake (actually, a gambit) of dismissing a complaint before finding out what it consists of.

    The country should be “pursuing all leads” to get to the bottom of election fraud 2020.

  175. Nisbe says:

    I think Trump knew all about the kiky nature of Jews as a group, and that all the shit he’s been doing related to them is planned to show that to the normies in the general public that aren’t still educated on the various aspects of the JQ.

    People are waking up, big time.

  176. @Vidi

    In the Chinese Civil/revolutionary war, the Nationalists (supported by the USA) had vastly better weaponry. However, as Mao remarked: “Weapons can change sides.” & they did.

    Another point that the Deplorable side will need to take into consideration (And this goes against US tradition) is that you need enemy soldiers to come over to your side and the best (really the only) way to achieve this is to treat all captives and non combatants with extreme kindness and understanding, to explain to them why you are fighting and why they should be on your side. If the captured fighters don’t see it, give them money to go home. If you capture them a second time, treat them the same way as you did the first time. This weakens the enemy and avoids people in your own army sympathising with captives or being disgusted with your own behaviour. It’s not just good tactics, it is the right thing to do!

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  177. Anon[308] • Disclaimer says:

    It takes a huge amount of money to maintain control of the u.s. the empire hss insuperable advantages as long as it can get the money from taxes and borrowing. White men supply the taxes. So minimize your taxes. Lenders will get nervous the more sand is thrown in the gears. A smart insurgent would figure out how to threaten the supply of funds.
    The empire isnt that smart they can be maneuvered to over reach especially on funds.

    I personally favor a 100k ubi to start.

  178. Anonymous[158] • Disclaimer says:

    When I saw Joe Biden running to claim the podium I began to remember my old distinguish college professor of American Govt 101…His classroom was almost like a temple of scholarly academic studies..from The Mayflower Compact, The Declaration of IndEpendence, The Federalists, FDR speeches, Patton, etc. ALL that is trash became trash with the FRAUD ELECTIONS on Nov.3th 2020. Joe Biden is NOT Madison, Lincoln, certainly NO Churchill..Biden a small minded simpleton second hand recycled politician. Biden reminds me of the Roman Emperor Tiberius an old perverted degenerate sex psychopath, given to sniffing women, little girls, taking hot nude showers with his teenage daughter, with a son hooked on drugs, mafia business like connections, etc. This nauseating vomit will be the new POTUS..please..He is already the topic of derision internationally (privately), a basement octogenarian incapable of coherent speech, though, this is the new potus that will demand the world democratic values, constitutional order, women rights (omg), war on drugs, …Will he used his office to extort govt like he did in Ucraine??..BUT the writings is on the wall…all this is JEWISHUBRIS…the intimidation, the humiliation of America…the tribe is giving us a porno/degenerate/sex/perverted mix of a clown with a decaying old fart…they must be laughing so hard. I pray I dream I hope for some American dignity left in this country like ASHLI BABBIT….one, one, one city one remote outpost of apple pie pioneering deplorable american courage to declare open ARMED rebellion to this BIDEN TYRANNY…

  179. @AReply

    There is no evidence of a stolen election.

    Even putting all concrete evidence (like footage from security cameras showing scum getting “ballots” out of bags after they sent observers away, of scanning the same “good” ballot many times, etc.) aside, the number of statistical improbabilities takes your breath away. We had 90+% and even 100+% participation, all in swing states. Biden “got” more votes than Obama exclusively in swing states, while getting fewer everywhere else, from Dem strongholds like San Francisco to Rep strongholds like rural TN. Obama won 873 counties with 69 million votes, while Biden with his alleged 80 million votes won only 477 counties. The probability of each one of these occurrences is low, but non-zero. But the probability of all of these happening in one election is comparable to the probability of a fly going right through your window pane.

    Naturally, people paid not to see the obvious won’t see it. But the fraudsters do not have enough money to pay millions of people who see the reality. Sorry, dude. And congrats on your gainful employment.

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  180. @FB

    An entire power substation can be fried out without any weapons or exotic devices. It’s easy.

  181. Nisbe says:

    Your comment made me laugh, despite being pretty gay.

  182. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Several calls to disable transformers etc. guerrilla style. The first guy apprehended for such an act would find himself at the Supermax, sitting on a concrete stool in solitary watching religious programming on a small black-and-white tv for 20 years. End of guerrillas. The first State governor to declare his State seceded would likewise be there. That would end it; no one wants to risk the concrete stool.

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    , @Miro23
    , @Chris Mallory
  183. @anon

    I live in Guatemala, and this is a huge overstatement. There are some, but not a very high percentage. Do you think Brazil is 35-40 crypto jew? Argentina 50-60%? Guatemala 5- 10% ? those are ridiculous estimates. Hint: the bankster jews are a major problem, but the shabbos goy are also a major problem.

    • Replies: @anon
  184. Nisbe says:

    US politicians are controlled by Israel via bribes, forced loyalty oaths to Israel, the power of the zionist lobby (no support for Israel no funding for you, and shit loads of funding for those that do), the Jewish controlled MSM and the mossad Epstein/Maxwell type blackmail operations.

    >Ted Cruz literally went to a gathering of Mideastern Christians and walked out on them after they refused to pledge allegiance to Israel:

    >Ron DeSantis literally held a Florida state cabinet meeting in Jerusalem, and is a huge proponent of ADL-supported legislation like ‘anti-BDS’ laws:

    >Kristi Noem is a vocal opponent of ‘anti-Semitism’ and has signed several laws to that effect, even though her state barely has any Jews:

    >Tom Cotton is a psycho neocon who wants to assassinate Assad and re-invade the Middle East:

  185. anon[406] • Disclaimer says:

    Good article and some very interesting comments.
    One might even wonder if one of the reasons which some Democrats are so anxious to get President Trump out of office may be fear that he can come up with hard facts about election fraud while still in power. And/or they are trying to destroy him now in case some nasty facts become evident in the future.
    The old ‘destroy the messenger if you can’t destroy the message’ tactic. After all, the MSM has been throwing lies and accusations at Mr Trump for the last four years non-stop, in concert with many fat white bunnies and even fatter black bunnies with even bigger teeth who only have to ‘stay on the res’ to remain very comfortable indeed.
    I was talking to friend who has a pretty decent gov job today and mentioned that I was down at the dump scrounging around ‘cuz there is all kinds of good stuff down there and she she said, “Oh, I never go down there.” I was just about to ask why not when she smiled and continued, “Because I have people who do that for me.”

  186. @stevennonemaker88

    Everyone has their Rubicon moment coming. For gun owners it may be the requirement to register their guns (for future seizing) or turn them over to the Government; failure to do so would be a felony with probably something like 10 years in prison and a \$500,000 fine.

    So what do you do? Bow down and become a fearful, defenseless serf with your family for the rest of your life, or keep your weapons and become a felon? If you chose to become a felon, then you may have to separate yourself from family to protect them (as much as possible). Then you will become truly free, because you have nothing left to lose. A free man with a weapon is the most dangerous kind of animal in the world. No sane rulers want millions of those men roaming the country. Unfortunately, our rulers are not sane. Everyone will chose.

    • Agree: Nisbe
  187. @Ultrafart the Brave

    As for the long-suffering and embarrassingly naive American common folk, my recommendation would be – if you can – get out while you still can. Lots of other countries would be sympathetic to your plight, and probably not the countries that you’d expect.

    This is NOT realistic. Most Americans have never left the USA. For most Americans, the idea of going to another place is to another State. It’s not realistic for persons “conditioned” to uproot themselves and adapt to a “foreign” way of living.

    Of course there are people that thrive in different places but they are the tiny minority in America. It is pointless to run….stand your ground and fight for what you believe. If you don’t have the courage and gumption to stand and fight then you don’t have what it takes to thrive elsewhere. Sorry but this is the truth.

    The conditioning and obedience you received via education, job and media is intentional. You perfect skills that keep you inside your imaginary jail.

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  188. Nisbe says:

    Thanks for your perspective amigo.

    Key difference here thou: Americans are heavily armed and more and more of the US general population is becoming intel/surveillance aware and developing tools and tactics to defeat it. And surveillance goes way deeper than NSA and 5 eyes stuff, there are massive humint embedded surveillance networks (Chabad brags about their own being huge and global), but as with everything else, people are waking up to it.

    Another factor is, like many mentioned, the fact that the “woke” diversity hires on the US military have weakened it considerably (destroying meritocracy in any way tends to weaken any organization).

    Also, the US is a Country is born from rebellion, their Capital is named after the man who led the rebel (continental) army against the UK Crown. It’s in their blood. If the Patriots inside the government, armed forces and IC fail to destroy the subversion, then civil war is unavoidable, and the government under the Biden admin will certainly lose the civil war they will provoke if Biden is allowed into the WH (although lots of blood on all sides will run, if it comes to that situation).


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  189. @nosquat loquat

    Our only hope–and it is indeed a slim one–is that the rank-and-file of the “forces of order” (police, military, National Guard), will refuse to serve the institution of a police state.

    Time will tell, but I’m not confident.

    We just had a sneak preview of where ‘Muh Pension Enforcement’ stands. Crapitol police (specifically an anonymous orc) shot Ashli Babbit, a trespassing but unarmed White woman. Last year the same finook badges were kneeling in front of POS blm terrorists for what appeared to be glans-based communion.

  190. Asymmetric, guerrilla type civil war will be the result of oppression and it’ll happen when Biden will resign his office for some unnamed “malady” and the black witch will takeover the White House. Christian White Americans haven’t woke up in enough numbers to make a difference right now but it’s on its way.

  191. c matt says:

    I am not a big COVID vaccine proponent, but what would have prevented TPTB from adulterating your typical flu vaccine that has been doled out for years? I mean, if they are trying to slip us a mickey in the vaccine, wouldn’t the flu vaccine have served just as well? I get that the COVID Vax is basically untested, but I tend to see it as a scam to make a quick buck rather than as a nefarious plot to depopulate the world.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  192. Ron T says:

    I believe Paul Craig Roberts is a Russian agent, sent to sow discord in the United States to trigger its collapse. Do I have evidence? No, but since when one needs evidence to concoct a conspiracy theory on Unz?

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  193. @Marshal Marlow

    How does urban America get food and water? How long will they last without it? Urban America controls those things. Where is urban America going to get its electricity and gasoline? Rural America controls that as well. How long can urban America contact each other without electricity? Can urban America depend on other parts of the world for support?

    Shipping and air support can easily be attacked. And what if urban America got hold of stinger missiles? Easily possible if you take over the military bases in the US. The generals aren’t there.

    If you are Russia or China, would they help urban America? Why is it in their interest to help? Do they support the rural people like we supported the Afghans against Russia?

    What about Europe? Who do they support?

  194. @Nisbe

    I have noticed that people are beginning to wake up with the whole “plandemic”, 0bvious election fraud, etc. I think that millions more would need to wake up to the fact that the whole establishment (D & R) is totally rotten, and also have serious resolve to die (and kill) for the cause before what you speak of can happen. I have lived in both the US and Guatemala, and can tell from experience that the powers that be are global. Their tentacles of financial and political control are pervasive! I share your views in many ways; there are no political solutions left, only revolution. however I am not so optimistic about the outcome.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  195. @TG

    All disorganized mobs organize. All they need is energy. This is the entirety of the history of the human race.

  196. @Niebelheim

    How long can urban America live without food and water? Just how much sustained effort does it take to get urban people starving in a few weeks?

    • Replies: @Jiminy
  197. @Ron T

    Why not a Chinese agent? Or a North Korean agent? Or an Israeli agent? Or an Iranian agent? Or an Iraqi or Syrian agent? Etc. Or a double agent?

  198. anon[127] • Disclaimer says:

    emphasis on ”dominant.” and yes, argentina and brazil have a lot of them. if you are talking about ancestry, then I wouldn’t be surprised if more than 1/3 of brazilians have sephardic ancestry somehwere.

  199. @cylindrical crown

    You make a good point. As the economic situation deteriorates for many they will be more willing to take risks (As they have less to lose). I think the delay in the often predicted “gun grab” is that the government would rather exercise soft power than hard power and a gun grab would unify people who are not currently very united. But hard power they do have in reserve, and will use when it comes down to it. My wife was 8 years old when the civil war ended here in Guatemala. The military vs the peasants is an extremely brutal affair, probably worse than most conventional wars.

  200. @davidgmillsatty

    You raise the meta issue of uncertainty; each side in this prognostication battle states, “This will happen then that will happen,” as if each mechanism they intend to use will be available when they need to use it. The only certainty here is uncertainty, but there are still ways to figure out what will happen.

    As you stated (I think correctly)
    Big city water supplies are vulnerable.
    Big city food supplies are vulnerable.
    Big city electricity is vulnerable.

    But also,
    Communications is vulnerable for big cities and rural America.
    Food comes from rural America, but the transportation network must be intact for midwest corn to reach California produce country and vice versa.

    There are many uncertainties. If one wants an idea of what would happen should Trump fail to round up all the seditious Pelosis and Pences, then think of what comes next as one, giant New Orleans after Katrina. Make sure you have food and water, and stay clear of people who look and act like the feral criminals that went a prowling afterwards.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @obvious
  201. Nisbe says:

    George III also thought Americans didn’t had it I was them and would easely give up.

    You underestimate the anger of the People against the tyrannycal usurpers.

  202. KenR says:

    I have a big complaint when it comes to this stuff, and I’ll keep making it.
    A great problem is that people don’t know who the enemy is.
    This problem particularly plagues the right and has so for decades, but also on the left it’s a problem.
    Nobody is going to be successful until they can name their enemy.

    Everybody is always, always analyzing any potential civil war scenario as red vs blue, and accordingly rural vs. urban and so forth.

    But what if that’s the wrong way to look at it?
    We do have an enemy who’s favorite set up is the following scenario:

    “Hey, let’s him and you fight!!”

    • Agree: stevennonemaker88
  203. Trinity says:
    @Ron T

    And I think you are a (((troll.))) Be gone, you flaming nutsack. LMAO while “dranking a cold one.”

  204. @anonymous

    Start with a mythology. Six million Jews. Jesus Christ, that’s a lot of Jews. If six million Jews were systematically murdered by the Nazis, including four million at Auschwitz, the Nazis must have had a very impressive killing system. Hence the legends of shower halls used to poison hundreds of people at a time with delousing gas. Holocaust mythology argues that the exterminated Jews were deceived at every step of the process to avoid their panic. So the shower facility looked perfectly innocuous, save for some diabolical holes in the roof to pour in Zyklon B. The Nazis also had small, purpose built gas chambers that used Zyklon B pellets to delouse clothing. These chambers included air circulation to maximize efficiency. But when it came to the “Final Solution” the Nazis only needed to knock some holes in the shower house roof.


    So now you should have millions of poisoned corpses. These should offer a lot of forensic evidence. But the wily Nazis, along with never committing their genocidal plan to writing, and disguising their death factory as a shower house, and using their lice poison against humans, also burned all the millions of bodies to ash, even digging up mass graves to burn old corpses and destroy all the evidence. Literally no evidence of the genocide survives. There are inscrutable photographs of roof holes and smoke plumes. There are the Sonderkommando photographs which although revolting are not evidence of genocide. There are testimonials riddled with fraud. Entire memoirs have proven to be false. Some Jewish organization has numbers showing a six million drop in population. But this contradicts both Nazi and Red Cross records, and even today Holocaust survivors are approximately a dime a dozen.

    The Holocaust follows a historiographic trajectory similar to the legend of Jesus Christ. In the first couple of decades after these supposed turning points in history, no one knows anything about them. Then gradually a body of literature develops around the alleged event, with significant portions of this literature rejected as fraud. The literature that survives gradually becomes unquestionable to the point of heresy. Facing a total lack of forensic evidence, mere “testimony” becomes unquestionable. This is not the way authentic history evolves. It is the evolutionary path of religious propaganda. It is the life cycle of a fraud.

    In conclusion, it was not the tricky shower house and ceaseless cremation that enabled the Nazis to turn 6,000,000 Jews into thin air. It was the number 6,000,000 that demanded these semi-plausible explanations.

  205. KenH says:

    We’re already in a cold civil war. Political left and political right hate each other’s guts. The only thing that can remedy this stand off is a national divorce. Now families are turning on each other just like in the Soviet Union. AZ Representative Paul Gosar’s three siblings have called for him to be censured by Congress.

    A Patriot ACT II for “right wing domestic extremists and white supremacists” is being created by Democrat Senators. It sounds like basically any speech found here on Unz will be deemed “incitement” and subject to punitive measures. Any wrongthinkers will probably be banned from owning guns or flying on commercial airlines.

    I wonder if they will eventually start using drones against white wrong thinkers?

    BLM will still be able to call for the destruction of Western civilization and the disenfranchisement of white people just in case anyone was wondering. That will still be free speech as will antifa arbitrarily labeling anyone they don’t like “fascists” and physically assaulting them.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  206. Nisbe says:

    It is a global tyrannical clique indeed friend.

    I still have hope that Patriots in the WH (including Trump), Military and the IC will be able to crush the uniparty ZOG deepstate with as little bloodshed as possible (no civil war), but if they fail (Biden gets in), people need to start peacefully resisting the illegitimate Biden admin (boycotts, stop paying taxes, incite farmers and truckers to strike against delivering to urban centers) while getting ready for the illegitimate Biden admin to escalate the situation into civil war (which they will).

    Let us pray, keep the information flowing, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

    • Thanks: stevennonemaker88
  207. Despite their bluster, shitlibs have very little endurance. Their diversity is our strength. All we need is Texas and Florida to form the United Free States.

  208. Give up says:

    I really appreciate this information.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  209. Nisbe says:
    @c matt

    They get much more compliance with this one. Way more.

    And there is also the angle of it being a mass human medical experiment. Treating the unwashed plebs as Guinea pigs.

  210. People talk of Big Tech censorship and ‘corpocracy’ and the like, but it is Jewish Power that pulls the strings. In THE GODFATHER PART 2, Michael Corleone asks Hyman Roth about who had Pantangeli killed. Roth says the Rosato Brothers. But then, Michael asks, “But who gave the go-ahead. I didn’t.” In the world of organized crime, you couldn’t just go around killing anyone on a whim, especially IF the target happened to be of some prominence. You needed permission, the go-ahead. So, Michael knew it was highly unlikely that the Rosato brothers would have just acted on their own. They needed the approval and assurance of higher authority. Roth was behind it all. And in the THE GODFATHER, Vito Corleone realizes the Tataglia wouldn’t have gone so far without the backing of a bigger crime boss, Barzini(who was forming an alliance with the Five Families to bring down the Corleones). We need to know the Hyman Roth Rule in why what happens happens.

    It’s true that Big Tech and the Corporations have loads of cash, and money = power. But money on its own lacks compass or direction. Money is like gunpowder. It can make lots of explosions and shoot off countless rounds. So, obviously, the side with money has lots of raw power. But then, who gets to decide how that power is used. Who gets to choose what gets blown up or in which direction the guns are pointed? In WWII, Germany had lots of tanks and planes, and Russia had lots of tanks and guns. That was only raw power. It was the personalities(Hitler and Stalin) and ideologies(National Socialism and Soviet Communism) that decided the direction of gunfire. Soldiers, tanks, and planes do not wage wars on their own.
    Consider the Military-Industrial-Complex. We’ve been told it is the most dominant force in government. Certainly, military contractors have their lobbyists and spread lots of cash all over D.C. They are war profiteers with boundless greed. But if it were only about money, MIC would be pushing for war with ANY country. Surely, war on Israel would be just as profitable as war on Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan, or whatever other nation. And given the facts of Israel’s creation(via imperialism, ethnic cleansing, and what amounts to ‘genocide’ by UN definition of the term), occupation, apartheid policies, aid to terrorists, covert role in 9/11, espionage on the US, financial theft, and possession of nukes(made from stolen US material), a strong case can be made to sanction, bomb, invade, and occupy Israel. US could protect the Palestinians as the ‘New Kurds’ or ‘New Kosovo Albanians’. And MIC could make tons of cash from Shock and Awe on Zion.

    If indeed money is the main motivating force in D.C., then MIC would have steered US into many more wars, especially against Israel. It would have made billions from such a war. But how come such a prospect isn’t even remotely conceivable. War on Israel? Why, Israel is “the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful nation I’ve ever known in my life.” So, even though MIC is about money(and the egotism of power), it lacks inner compass. Its aggression must be turned toward certain targets by a higher power. So, MIC can be turned against Russia, Iran, China, Venezuela, Libya, and etc., but no one would dare to turn it against Israel(or any nation looked upon favorably by Jews, such as Saudi Arabia even though it is by far the #1 terrorist-sponsoring nation in the Middle East after Israel). So, those who control the gods control those who live by money and/or power egotism. MIC makes money by targeting countries hated by Jews. And military brass flexes its muscles against those hated by Jews. Jews control the gods, and money and muscle follow the gods. Why did the US military go from a right-wing institution to a crusader of globo-homo, Jew-worship, and Afromania around the world? Because having all those guns and bombs doesn’t mean you got vision and direction. No, like hunting dogs, the military doesn’t pick its own agendas or its own fights. It is directed by the higher powers, those who control the gods. And Jews control the gods.

    So, when we look at Big Tech de-platformings and Big Corporations denying service to certain groups, it isn’t enough to say the problem is with corpocracy and Silicon Valley. And, money isn’t the primary decider in all this. If it were, retail companies would have slammed BLM and Antifa for what the ‘mostly peaceful demonstrators’ did over last summer. Walmart and Target would have denied service to Democrats who encouraged the riots. They would have made announcements denouncing black thuggery. And they would have cut off services to progs and libby-dibs who fanned the flames. But, even after their stores were ransacked by black thugs fueled by BLM lunacy, the companies made announcements to the effect that they sympathized with the rage and hatred behind the violence and mayhem. They took the knee to the Negro because Jews control the gods and made Afromania one of the three gods of the new trinity. While cucking to Jewish gods will lead to loss of money, refusal to cuck will lead to total disgrace and downfall. Big Business figures it’s better to lose half by cucking than lose all by not cucking.

    People think Jack Dorsey is now more powerful than the US president, but that is total nonsense. If anything, Dorsey and Trump are in the same situation. They must do as the Jews say. Notice every time Jews kick Trump in the rump, he takes his frustrations out on Iran, China, or some other country. (A Jew-White Boxing match would be one where the Jew hits the white, and the white hits the Russian. Jew hits the white again, and the white hits the Chinese. Jew hits the white yet again, and white hits the Iranian. Jew hits the white once again, and the white hits the Palestinian. MAGA could not win despite its energy because it never dared to hit back the Jew.) It’s like, when a master kicks the dog, the dog goes attacks the cat or rabbit or another dog.

    If Dorsey is truly all that powerful, imagine the following scenario: Suppose Dorsey was so angered by BLM riots instigated by Obama in 2016 that he decided to ban POTUS from Twitter. Could he have gotten away with it? No way. The whole Hyman Roth of media complex, deep state, elite groups, and true believing prog masses would have attacked him. He would have faced legal sanctions and serious consequences.
    Or suppose following last summer’s riots and mayhem, big corporations decided to ban all Democrats and prominent figures who aided and abetted the riots and violence(against police and civilians alike) by encouragement, donations, lawfare, and the like. Would big business have dared to take such action? Would they have gotten away with it? No. They are just Money Power, and money has no inner compass. Money follows the gods, and Jews control the gods. Indeed, the \$\$\$ shouldn’t say “In God We Trust” but “We obey the gods controlled by Jews”.
    So, control of the gods is key. It’s no wonder Jews used their power to erect the Holocaust Museum in Washington — given US history, the group most deserving of a prominent genocide museum is the American Indians, but leave it up to Jews to be obnoxious and occupy morality like they occupy West Bank — and then did everything to prevent the construction of Communist Horror Museum. The ghosts of countless dead goyim killed by Stalin, Mao, and etc. would compete with the gods of the Jews, especially as Jews played such a prominent role in communism as agents, killers, smugglers, propagandists, and spies.

    So, who gave Jack ‘Rosato’ Dorsey the go-ahead to take out Trump? Who assured Dorsey that he wouldn’t suffer any repercussions(and if anything, has much to gain) if he were to kick Donald Trump down the stairs? Of course, Jewish oligarchs in Big Tech don’t need permission as they are among the people who control the gods. But goyim like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Tim Cook(the crook) need the go-ahead by ‘Hyman Roth’. If Jewish Power didn’t want Trump taken down, Dorsey wouldn’t have done so. Without Jewish approval(and insistence), Amazon and Apple wouldn’t have moved against Parler. Super-rich white goyim have tons of money, but they don’t control the gods. As such, they are busy appeasing the gods controlled by Jews. They live in a world where Jews, blacks, and homos are holy but where whites are defamed as having demon-possessed souls. So, white money today is ‘spiritually’ like the money of organized crime. It is dirty and has to be ‘morally’ laundered and cleansed by the Holy People. Jews are like the money-changers at the gates of temple. Rich whites can be redeemed only in service to Holy Jews. It’s the only way ‘dirty’ white money becomes ‘clean’ money. Those who control the gods decide which money is ‘clean’, which is ‘dirty’. No wonder the US is always eager to send billions over to Israel. Jews are holy, so when US sends big cash to holy Zion, it’s as if American Wealth is symbolically cleansed. “As president, I pledge 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, etc billions to Israel”… Cheers and cheers, the \$\$\$ have been cleansed.

    Now, some may argue that rich white goyim AGREE with Jews on most matters, and therefore, it isn’t so much a case of them obeying Jews but agreeing and working with Jews. But why do they think and feel that way? Because they were educated in Jewish-heavy elite institutions and get most of their news from Jewish-run media. So, the images, sounds, idols, icons, narratives, and mantras that fill up their minds have been formulated by Jews. Jews have long been masters at this. After all, they wrote the Bible, the Book of Everything that combine history, philosophy, mythology, story-telling, genealogy, poetry, law, and even humor. To create and control the gods, it’s not enough to specialize in any one field. Rather, you must ‘bring it all back home’ like Bob Dylan’s album said. After all, if Karl Marx had just focused on economics, he would have been a number-cruncher, a historian-accountant. Instead, he pulled together the various threads of philosophy, economics, history, morality, neo-spirituality, science, and prophecy all into a single package. As Jews combine images, stories, icons, and etc into one package through their control of institutions and industries, they effectively own the electronic bible of ‘sacronics’. Hollywood is the new vatican, Ivy League is the new seminary of Jewish Gods Learning, such as how to worship globo-homo and magic negro(and how to shut up about Jewish Power or else be labeled an ‘antisemitic’ heretic).

    Because Jews control the gods, they have the crucial leverage. Suppose there are two banks, one run by white conservatives and one by Jews. Suppose the Jewish Bank decides to deny services to a group for its ‘white supremacist’ ties, and suppose the White Bank decides to deny services to a group for supporting Israel and its terrorist activities. Suppose both banks are equally big. Now, which one will emerge unscathed and which one will face ruin? As whites are the devils in the New World Order where Jews control the gods, Jews can label anything as ‘white supremacist’ and deny it service. But, as Jews are the forever holy holocaust people, even the denying of service to Jewish terrorism and supremacism is taboo. So, the White Bank will come under media attack, lose customers(who are brainwashed), and lose partners. Jews control the gods, and that is crucial. But what do most whites do? They don’t create and control their own gods but worship the gods of the Jews. Even Trump and his Trumpeteer morons are always yapping about ‘Muh Israel’ and ‘Record Low Unemployment for blacks’ even after Jews deny whites service and blacks go around beating up whites in riots. And organizations like TPUSA worship globo-homo and promote the tranny Lady Maga.

    If white folks are to control the gods, there needs to be the rise of white prophets. Some called Trump the ‘Todd-Emperor’, but he was just a charlatan-hustler whose gods were all controlled by Jews even as he appealed to white votes. He was essentially a ‘todd-jester’. Now, the white prophet doesn’t have to be anti-Christian. Muhammad wasn’t. If anything, Muhammad had great respect for Jesus and the Old Prophets. He saw himself as furthering the Prophecy.
    A new prophecy is necessary in the West because it’s obvious that Christianity has run its course. Catholicism is just lavender mafia homo club. Mainline Protestant churches are now run by lesbian crypto-atheists. Evangelicals are just dogs-of-Zion who believe in Noah’s Ark. And Orthodox Christianity is just a mausoleum religion in Russia. More churches are built but stand empty. The fire has gone out of Christianity, and I doubt it can be relit. And yet, it was a great religion worthy of remembrance and still has inspirational, if not ‘salvational’, value.

    And whites must learn to become inner-warriors. In the end, inner-warriors survive and can win because they have resilience and persistence. They have inner life, internal source of conviction and passion. In THE GODFATHER PART 2, Michael Corleone knows well enough that the Cuban military has more guns and supplies than Castro’s men. They are supported by the US and Big Money. But, a guerrilla is willing to give his own life for the cause. He has inner fire whereas the Cuban military are mere mercenaries who take orders. So, Michael later tells others that the guerrillas can win. They certainly did in Cuba and Vietnam.
    The outer-warriors have no inner conviction. They just do as told. They are willing to kill but unwilling to die for anything. White mentality is that of the outer-warrior. No wonder conservatives are so into honoring military men and veterans, the outer-warriors with guns who merely follow orders and do as told. But are these soldiers inner-warriors? Do they have core conviction?
    Now, consider the Jews. If the US waged war on Israel or Jewish Power, Jews wouldn’t go along. Jews are inner-warriors whose core loyalty is about Jewish Soul, Pride, and Power. But if white soldiers were ordered to fight useless Wars for Israel or turn their guns on fellow white folks, they will do just that. It’s like the white police, total outer-warriors. Ordered by superiors to allow Antifa to beat up Trump supporters, the white police doesn’t lift a finger. Ordered by superiors to attack and arrest Proud Boys, the white police does just that. It’s the outer-manhood of holding clubs & guns and just doing as told. They are like dogs with no inner compass. Dogs will attack ANYTHING as ordered by the master. Only the inner-warrior is truly free because his sense of loyalty and rightness is independent of what the Power says. He is a soul-warrior than merely a body-warrior. Outer-warriors may have big swords or big guns, but their sense of war doesn’t extend beyond what they’re ordered to do.

    Perhaps, whites make such poor inner-warriors because they had less need to develop an inner-warriorhood. After all, most of white history was about whites in white lands being led by white rulers. So, it was just understood and taken for granted that being an outer-warrior was synonymous with the well-being of white folks. In contrast, Jews had to master their inner-warrior-ness precisely because they lived under goyim for so long. Whether it was the Egyptians, Assyrians, Romans, or Christian Europe, the rulers and the masses were goyim, sometimes hostile to Jews. So, even as Jews pretended to go along and get along outwardly, they had to keep the Jewish fire burning within their hearts. They mastered the art of keeping the fire alive in the dark cellar. It’s like the final scene of Martin Scorsese’s THE SILENCE where it’s implied the priest didn’t really relinquish his faith in God/Jesus. The fire was kept alive in some hidden corner of his heart. In a way, his place in Japan is like the Jew’s place in Christian Europe. The fire had to keep burning in some secret place.

    In contrast, Europe, especially Northern Europe(and historic America is an extension of Northern Europe), became so powerful, rich, expansive, and dominant around the world that whites took it for granted that the outer manifestations of Western Power were in sync with the heart and souls of white folks. But then, the institution and industries fell into Jewish hands one by one. Also, as Jews gained control of the gods, they began to switch on anti-white neon signs within white souls. Whites watched TV & movies made by Jews, and their hearts became aglow with holy homo and Magic Negro.

    Because the outer-power of the West traditionally looked out for white interests and was founded on white identity, there had been no need to develop a strong inner-self among white folks. By the way, Western Individualism isn’t the same as having an inner-self. Individualism means the individual’s freedom to do whatever, with his main objective being ‘happiness’, which in our time means videogames, food, and lots of trivialities. In contrast, an inner-self is deeper than any whim of an individual.

    After a forest fire, everything looks dead and extinguished on the surface, and indeed those organisms that exist only above surface will have been totally destroyed. But why do plants sprout again and grow into trees? Because the roots deep inside the soil were untouched by the fire. Those plants have the inner-warrior.
    Why did Romans fade from history whereas Jews survived as a people/culture? Roman Empire was entirely formulated as an external power. It was great as long as it could win wars and dominate others. But there was precious little sense of the inner-Roman. The Jews got demolished worse by the Romans than Romans by the Germanic Barbarians, but Jews survived and took over the world because they perfected the art of the inner-warrior. And the US will eventually leave Afghanistan because the Taliban, as ragtag and backward as they are, do have an inner sense of Jihad and tribal pride. In contrast, the mostly white soldiers in Afghanistan are mere mercenaries of Jews, and America’s interests are purely political than spiritual.

    Whites need their own Jihad mentality as inner-warriors. This way, even when the enemy takes over outer-power and scorches the landscape of patriots, the white inner-warriors will still believe in what they are, still hate the enemy, still carry on the fight, and wait for The Day of Reckoning.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  211. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    Fair reasoning; yet, prior to exulting, consider how formidably short-sighted/clueless the hostile elite’s targets are.

  212. Frank34 says:

    I am an european from a country in western europe. The older people here give their kids the same advise like you but the problem is that there is no country any more which meets this requirements. Western Europe is overrun by muslims and the governments are left socialists.
    Soon this part of Western Europe will lost. Eastern Europe is much safer for white people but the economic is very bad and the languages are very difficult to learn.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Commentator Mike
  213. Ugetit says:

    One thing is for sure…Udontgetit.

    Yup. I don’t get why FDR and Churchill appeased the Commies and to this day people still yap about the guys who were men enough to stand up to them.

    Somethings else I don’t get are why a realist would accept the simplistic Commie versions of history nearly a century after the fact, why a realist can’t think for himself, and why one can’t understand simple concepts such as I introduced you to.

    Another thing I don’t get is why you don’t answer the question I’m asking you for the third time; what would you have done in VQ’s situation?

    • Replies: @Realist
  214. Miro23 says:

    Several calls to disable transformers etc. guerrilla style. The first guy apprehended for such an act would find himself at the Supermax…

    True, but it’s also a question of numbers. You’re talking about 1 person. There are 330.000.000 people in the USA. If only 1 in 100 got involved , that’s still 3.300.000 people to deal with, and it could quickly turn into 10’s millions when the shooting starts (that’s still only 9-10% of the population) . In the Spanish Civil War there were no neutrals – everyone was involved on one side or the other.

  215. Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chris Cosmos

    The effort may require minority involvement, but the minority with the capability for the effort is around one-per-thousand, not of the whole USA populace but of the demographics targeted by the system.
    You see what kind of hope is there.

  216. @ThreeCranes

    A liberal is, by definition…won’t deal with their own shit.

    and so wholly dettached from reality they deign the shoulders of giants on whom they stand. South africans blacks now daily beg the giants to return and fix their broken sewer systems. Yet where the are no giants, there are no liberal saviors.
    Liberals are merely peddlers of death.

  217. anon[406] • Disclaimer says:

    “Hollywood has been, in big ways and small, the enemy of the American majority ever since.”
    Hollywood has been the enemy of American humor ever since the invention of the laugh track.

  218. anonymous[939] • Disclaimer says:

    The Judah P. Benjamin Confederate Memorial at Gamble Plantation Historic State Park
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Governing body Florida Department of Environmental Protection

    The Judah P. Benjamin Confederate Memorial at Gamble Plantation Historic State Park, also known as the Gamble Mansion or Gamble Plantation, is a Florida State Park, located in Ellenton, Florida, on 37th Avenue East and US 301. It is home to the Florida Division United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC).

    The Judah P Benjamin Confederate Memorial is in fine shape, thank you very much, inactive at the moment but undamaged, unmolested by BLM even tho its grounds and buildings were built by and home to slaves.
    The angel of the lord passed over.

    OTOH, headquarters of the United Daughters of the Confederacy in Richmond, VA, was set afire by BLM. No blood smeared on the doorposts to ward off righteous rage.


    Protesters Target the United Daughters of the Confederacy Headquarters

    Karen L. Cox | Aug 6, 2020

    Following the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police in May 2020, Black Lives Matter protests erupted across the country and around the globe. In the American South, protesters focused their attention on the region’s hundreds of Confederate monuments. Several were vandalized, but many more were removed by city governments. These monuments were targeted because they symbolize the systemic racism and white supremacy still prevalent across the nation.

    The United Daughters of the Confederacy’s Memorial Building in Richmond, VA, serves as both a memorial and the organization’s headquarters. Morgan Riley/Wikimedia Commons/CC BY 3.0
    One of the protesters’ targets was the United Daughters of the Confederacy’s (UDC) headquarters in Richmond, Virginia. Located just a few blocks from Richmond’s Monument Avenue, the organization opened the building in 1957 as a “Memorial to the Women of the Confederacy.” On the evening of May 30, protesters broke its windows and set the building ablaze, damaging the interior, although it is not clear how much damage the library sustained.

    • Thanks: Ugetit
  219. Corvinus says:

    To the contrary, young whites like it here in the States. There’s no pondering whether their nation will end in civil war or a police state.

    • Replies: @Anon
  220. @AReply

    US is dying. People are lethargic, sloppy, and they do not care. Not even speck of enthusiasm can be invoked by your “precious” democratic system.
    Your idiotic hollow comment certainly cannot help.
    People had enough.
    The disgusting deep State with ziomedia are calling them insurgents.
    They do not want to call them by real name.
    Their real name is “WE THE PEOPLE”

  221. Incitatus says:

    Goodness! Another off-the-chart masterpiece from ‘LBO bloodsucker’ William E. Simon Georgetown chair PCR! A man who helped Reagan’s miraculous economy while tripling the national debt in eight years (\$900 billion to \$2.7 trillion – the record). Easy to feel good (“Morning in America”) if you’re charging expense to your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren.

    “There is abundant evidence of a police state. One feature of a police state is controlled explanations and the suppression of dissent. We certainly have that in abundance.”

    Dissent? Or nihilism? Trump ignites the disaffected who (with other cult-members) simply want to throw a spanner into the works and see what happens. They have no plan, no aspiration other than to stick a fork into the eye of Trump’s enemies and call it ‘freedom’.

    “Suppression of dissent and controlling behavior are police state characteristics.”

    So are Dear Leader’s suggestive rhetoric aimed against the Constitution of the United States, against legislative and judicial due process. Intimidating Republican Georgians with veiled threats magnified by mindless death-threats of on-line sycophants. By all accounts he enjoyed riot he enflamed, his 6 January Putsch. Contrary to promises, he didn’t join his fans at the barricades, but instead retired to the protected White House for junk food, soda, and cable TV (doubtless joined by his creepy family).

    “Another problem for reds is that large cities—the distribution centers—such as Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles—are in blue hands as are ports and international airports. Effectively, this cuts reds off from outside resources.”

    The biggest problem is Blue States pay the bills for Red States (twenty-eight of thirty on federal welfare). You’re an economist PCR, you should know that. Wait a second, sorry, forgot you’re the genius who confused wealth with credit (passing the bill to future generations).

    “What about weapons? How can the reds lose when guns are a household item and blues would never dirty themselves by owning one?”

    Is that an invitation to insurrection PCR? Think very carefully.


    You might be surprised. Those who live in Blue States the NRA hates have plenty of guns. And, given requirements for permit, we know how to use them. Just as we did in 1775.

    “To blame China won’t work, because Trump blamed China for economically undermining America and Trump supporters are generally anti-China. So accusing the red opposition with being China agents would not work”

    Kindly explain Trump’s China bank account and daughter Ivanka’s multiple trademarks (negotiated when she was in office as a ‘senior advisor’).

    Trump paid \$188,561 tax to China 2013-2015 (according to Forbes) while proudly avoiding support of the USA (paying no tax in ten of fifteen years, \$750 in 2016 and 2017). He spent 283 daytime visits (1.5 days/week) to (mostly his own) golf courses. Taxpayer cost \$141 million (mostly paid to Trump).

    How does it feel to be a carnival geek, PCR? Each piece biting the head off yet another chicken for the edification of your fans?

  222. @James Speaks

    I can’t take complete credit for this. Several weeks ago, I read an article where, much to my surprise, someone had seriously gamed this out. It was an eye-opener for sure. And I am just pointing out a few of the things I remember.

  223. Patriots will have to ‘gab’ everything.

    To Gab: to build from the ground up and be independent of the Tyrannists.

  224. @Just another serf

    Before we begin killing one another, can we do two things; 1. Interrogate Ruby Freeman and 2. Interrogate the killer of Ashli Babbit?

    It is a fundamental credo of the USA’s newly established religion, Negrolatry, that Negros can do no wrong. Interrogation is not allowed and even if it were would result in no adverse consequences for these Negro scofflaws. So take a knee, Pilgrim, and repent of your hate speech.

    • Replies: @Just another serf
  225. Zumbuddi says:
    @Priss Factor

    You’re becoming a bore, P F.

    Stereotypical jew – bride at every funeral, corpse at every wedding.

    btw Rome built its own empire out of its own “inner warrior.” Aeneas carried his heritage on his back & in his soul & endured multiple trials to create Rome.
    Jews have never lived anywhere or created anything BEFORE some superior host conceived the vision, laid the foundation, built the framework.

    Abba Evan conceded as much.

    Jews are history’s moochers.

  226. @Scotist

    The majority of the other half are foreigners, who have finally turned Georgia permanently blue.

  227. @Cthulu Smith

    Vietnam. The Vietcong. Hit, Run, Hide. Charlie. IED’s. Patience. Thet. The Fall Of Saigon.

    A more likely scenario for what might happen in the USA in the near future is what happened in the Republic of Ireland, during the 1920s, a steady, low intensity hot war, marked by small independent forays against targets of opportunity as well as constant terrorist acts including assassinations, mass killings and bombings. In the twentieth century, the IRA were the first to perfect this method of civil warfare. The results so traumatized Ireland that the period is still euphemistically referred to as “The Troubles”. The political establishment of the USA and most elements of its elite establishment seem dead set on goading the more productive and law abiding half of the population into adopting IRA tactics. Whether or not this is what they intend, it is what they will get if they continue careening down their current reckless path. Up the Republic!

    • Agree: Nisbe
    • Thanks: Cthulu Smith
  228. anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    Was it worth it, Trump, to betray your base and suck up to the Jews and the blacks these past 4 years? They burn you at the stake anyway.

    Those who have been protesting this election are true patriots. Contrary to the media’s twisted portrayal, they are not protesting for Trump, they are protesting for a clean electoral process, and for the Republic. This is far bigger than Trump. But let the left go live in their delusion, that this is all about Trump, and not about them and their brazen corruption. Let’s see who they blame when the protests and unrest continue for the next four years.

    I say it’s time we burn the Capitol to the ground. DC now exists to the detriment of the nation, and the world.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  229. @cylindrical crown

    For me the Rubicon moment is hate speech legislation being passed and approved by a packed SCOTUS, effectively eliminating the First Amendment. Though unlikely, after the past year anything seems possible. And, of course, we must act together. Millions and millions of people. That’s a tough sell for fat and happy Americans.

  230. anon[406] • Disclaimer says:

    Complete sympathies for countries in Western Europe which are being overrun by other races who are only there for the money and care nothing about the people who offered them refuge.
    The only country I can think of in Europe which may have solved it at least short term is Hungary.
    Viktor Orbán ran on keeping aliens out and put up fences guarded by soldiers to do so. The rest of the milk toast EU hates him for it. Or maybe hate him because it worked in Hungary and their solution didn’t work in their country. If only there were more countries whose governments believed in the people who live there, and not in the promises and lies of corporate controlled and financed governments comprised largely of people who which to grab as mush as they can for themselves and damn the people who live there. That will only happen if there are definite ‘ carrot and stick’ enforceable laws in place to protect the innocent voters. Like no pension for politicians who profited on their people instead of supporting them. Mandatory jail for politicians who engage in corruption for personal gain. Anything anyone else can help me out with here?
    But making it extremely unattractive and punishable by severe penalties would at least help in ending the endemic political corruption most Western countries now suffer under. China too probably suffers under some corruption but I doubt it is as bad because the penalty there can go as far as death.
    So imagine having cheated your country of several billion dollars, but shit! You are going to be executed on Tuesday. Maybe your family too. Maybe not even by the government. Those are the kind of customs duties which will discourage major league corruption. Maybe you go with that for yourself, but how many real men like having to die with the thought that their four year granddaughter Anya will also have to face a firing squad while still believing that nobody would ever hurt her.
    Sorry for the dramatics and of course it will never go that far. But long prison sentences for politicians who betray the people who got them there is certainly a step in the right direction.

    • Replies: @Frank34
    , @annamaria
  231. Anon[822] • Disclaimer says:

    You are an inexhaustible antagonist here at Unz.

    Im glad you know many young whites happy with establishment-rigged elections and school cirricula that demonizes them, but dome dont.

    Eastern Europe, the Baltic states, Finland, Norway, Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Australia, and yes……even Russia may be places young whites can go have a family and be physically and mentally unassailed for their ethnic existence.

    You ought to be thrilled.

    Peace……..but Biden will start wars, so dont worry. Im sure y’all have a false flag lined up to blame on Iran. Hit the statue of Liberty. She is white.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  232. @Joe Stalin

    Keep it simple!

    Define the enemy: Globalist DeepState (globalists are implicitly TREASONOUS).

    Their main sources of power and control: 1) central banking-debt, 2) war-profiteering, 3) cultural-subversion, 4) sin-degeneracy, 5) media monopolies/cartels…

    SOLUTIONS: 1) Do not take their bank debt (use LOCAL credit unions & LOCAL currencies), 2) Do not fight their central banking wars (and remind their globalist police-soldiers that they are implicitly TREASONOUS), 3) Have higher morality & integrity, 4) Establish our own LOCAL media & internet platforms, 5) Establish our own LOCAL ((ESSENTIAL SUPPLY CHAINS)), 6) Cooperate ONLY with likeminded people & groups (boycott globalist cities, states and businesses), 7) Do not comply / Make their lives difficult (remind them they are globalist TRAITORS!).

    • Agree: Sin City Milla
  233. The real problem is less racial and more that people who would like to work want something from government like legislation that would give them a chance to earn a living and be able to afford food, housing, health care like Medicare for all and they get continually screwed by their elected representatives who don’t do anything to let them have a chance at a decent life. Society needs to help the lowest income earners. Small business is not the problem, but is also getting shafted.

    When the lower incomes are helped every business above them will get a share as well. Money trickles up but not down.

    OBummer could have helped them like he promised but chose to reward banks for causing the economic problems instead while allowing home buyers to lose their homes in the sub prime scam.

    America’s problem is that the politicians are owned by billionaires. And the first priority of ever elected politician is to get reelected so he/she can continue to feed at the trough. Enacting legislation to favour the billionaires while starting the workers.

    Marc Hanna said of Teddy Roosevelt “we bought the bastard but he wouldn’t stay bought when Roosevelt was breaking up the trusts. Now 120 years later it is the same old problem.

    If a politician doesn’t do what the billionaires require he will get primaries out of politics and the gravy train.

    • Thanks: Nisbe
  234. The auto suggestion of your software substitutes shared for shafted and primaries for primaries.

  235. Realist says:

    what would you have done in VQ’s situation?

    Help organize the underground.

  236. @TG

    What utter nonsense!! Mexicans were disarmed A LONG time ago. The US populace is the most well armed in the entire world. It will take a lot of balls for the government to think LE and the military will fall in line to disarm the average American. Not gonna happen without a real fight. 90% of the population lives in urban/suburban areas where a majority of people live under just in time logistical systems. It wouldnt take a large force of well armed patriots to take over large swaths of the US. Maybe a couple million. At least enough to outnumber the combat ready soldiers far and wide. If you think every grunt in all branches including pilots etc. are just going to fall in line in a civil war and shoot and kill their fellow Americans you’re a bigger idiot. We aren’t Yugoslavia. People will absolutely side along 2A lines if it came to that. Nothing else matters to a lot of Americans than the right to bear arms. It really should be the first amendment. You seem to think CEOs and politicians are untouchable and bulletproof. You dont think there’d be lone wolf bodyguards, SS agents, etc. willing to put a bullet in a communist democrat’s head in a civil war??! Yeah right! This country will peacefully allow states to secede or set up autonomous zones or a bloody civil war will ensure. A few thousand guerrilla patriots could set every forest on fire in CA and destroy that cesspool in a few weeks. A few blown up bridges and federal highways destroyed would shut down the economy literally within hours.

    • Agree: Nisbe
  237. Rooster17 says:

    If I was an electrical substation, I’d be getting pretty nervous at this point… hey, what do you know… you can Google all the substations near you and it comes up on a neat map and everything!

  238. Corvinus says:

    “You are an inexhaustible antagonist here at Unz.”

    Protoganist, friend.

    “Im glad you know many young whites happy with establishment-rigged elections and school cirricula that demonizes them”

    All your lies are belong to U.S.

    “Eastern Europe, the Baltic states, Finland, Norway, Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Australia, and yes……even Russia may be places young whites can go have a family and be physically and mentally unassailed for their ethnic existence.”

    Fine places for whites. But American whites, especially those in their prime, call the U.S. their home. Feel free to leave if you choose.

  239. DrWatson says:

    Whether the country continues its descent into an all out police state and the Gulag is erected in the land of the free and the home of the brave will depend on the appetite of the American people for individual liberty.

    If that desire remains strong, I do not see how the evil bastards now running the country can succeed in their supremacist and genocidal impulses.

    Why, do you think that people who fell under the tyranny of a dictator/authoritarian/totalitarian regime, they didn’t desire to be free? There is more to be done than wishing that everything will turn out all right. You need to pull your collective wisdom and also organize. If needed, as an underground movement.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  240. Anon[452] • Disclaimer says:

    Get yourselves a short wave radio. It’s the only way you’ll be able to get news/information once everything is shut down.

  241. @Anon

    Several calls to disable transformers etc. guerrilla style. The first guy apprehended

    They have to catch him first. We have 200,000 miles of high voltage transmission lines in the US. When you talk about low voltage lines the number jumps to 5.5 million miles. The US is a big place.

    • Replies: @FB
  242. @davidgmillsatty

    How does urban America get food and water?

    The thing is that rural regions of America is mostly a series of agricultural monocultures due to the economics of modern farming. Few of its inhabitants are capable of feeding themselves without resort to importing non-local foods.

    • Agree: Liza
  243. Jiminy says:

    Forget the food and water supplies. I can hear the plans being drawn up now. “ This time we hit them hard. Where they least expect.”…. “The ball bearing factory or the dam?”…. “ Neither. The toilet paper manufacturers.”…. “My god man! What are you thinking!”

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  244. Anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:

    Just putting this out here, in case it hasn’t been said yet.
    I apologize in advance in case this is repetitive.

    It’s not in the interest of the State (Deep or otherwise) to have the country ever more divided. The people are, of course, seen as mere resources, and if your resource base disintegrates, how do you exercise any power, at home or abroad?

    But how to bring the resources . . . er, people back under control (that phrase is chosen deliberately)? What would unite them?

    Answer: A foreign adventure, a war of aggression presented as unavoidable and as defensive.

    But who to target? Who indeed?

    IRAN comes to mind. Risky? Might backfire BIG time? Yes on both, especially if victory (occupation) is unclear or seen as costly. But I think the government just might go for it.

    If it happens, know that we are being played. Absolutely played.

    WAR WITH I R A N, folks. There, I said it.

    • Thanks: Nisbe
  245. Art says:




    They have everything going for them now. WAIT!

    Prepare for 2022 and 2024!

    • Disagree: Catdog
  246. anon[901] • Disclaimer says:

    Unlike in the past, it is impossible for a citizens’ militia to stand against the weapons and body armor that the military has.

    There is strength in numbers. Surely you do not expect the US government to pull a Tiananmen on its own people? It would give such a government no two legs to stand on. They’ll have to stop lecturing other countries about human rights for the next 100 years.

    But then again, if Jews understood hypocrisy or shame, they wouldn’t be Jews. Everything they do is justified because…two thousand year oppression, the pogroms, Holocaust, anti-Semitism, Anne Frank’s diary…inglorious bastards indeed.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    , @dogbumbreath
  247. Mr Jew says:

    It’s time for the Governor of Texas to declare secession and all the red states to follow, and even red counties in neighboring blue states. That leaves the Biden regime with non-contiguous cities and coastal areas. Let them figure out how to manage that!

  248. indocon says:

    Puncturing the main input water lines is more deadly than sewer lines, if sewer lines are punctured, you look like India, and yes people can survive in literally a shit hole. Without water, they die of thirst because no one knows anymore how to drill a water hole in the ground in a random area. Look at how one 100+ mile main water line feed the taps of entire East Bay Area, which includes landing spot of King T’Chalala, Oakland:

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  249. You might be surprised. Those who live in Blue States the NRA hates have plenty of guns. And, given requirements for permit, we know how to use them. Just as we did in 1775.

    What a joke; the communist states’ “AR-15s” vs Free People’s AR-15s. Crippled weapons for the mentally emasculated.


    New Jersey

    New York

    New Jersey

    AR-15 for Free States

  250. Gapeseed says:

    Some years back I was watching Chris Matthews as he was commemorating an anniversary related to the 1960 election. He chortled while admitting that JFK stole Illinois, thus beating Nixon. Charming. Historians tend to concur on this opinion.

    So Nixon stepped aside despite good evidence that the Chicago Mob was guilty, and nobody was punished. Since then, the stakes have only gotten higher. My question to you: what in human nature makes you believe that a crime so compensating that goes unpunished won’t be repeated, again and again? Since then, urban machines and technology have made the counting more opaque, voter ID laws have been weakened, and the pandemic provided cover for mail ballot harvesting. Also, a more centralized media staffed by graduates of leftist institutions provide cover for Democratic shenanigans while scrutinizing and mischaracterizing even innocent Republican action. Throw in the difficulty of collecting evidence and prosecuting a case in such a short time frame, and you have the recipe for an Election steal. And senile Joe Biden admitted as much, on camera.

    The only thing you need to know here is human nature and the setting of opportunity for dishonest souls. Biden lost. Trump ought to act if he can. I pray he does.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  251. FB says: • Website
    @Chris Mallory

    Several calls to disable transformers etc. guerrilla style. The first guy apprehended…

    They have to catch him first.

    Yup. And btw, the ‘catchers’ may have a difficult time catching anybody without gas in their tanks. No power means no gas pumps [also no refrigerators, no cash registers, no lights, computers etc etc…]

  252. @Jus' Sayin'...

    It is a fundamental credo of the USA’s newly established religion, Negrolatry, that Negros can do no wrong.

    It’s incredible, unbelievable and yet those of us with our eyes open, have seen this slowly developing over at least a decade now, or more.

  253. TTSSYF says:

    Trump was ahead by hundreds of thousands of votes on the only day that should have mattered: Election Day, 11/3/2020.

  254. I reject nearly every premise of Mr. Roberts commentary. We are weak. By no means are we defenseless.

    James C. Scott has a lengthy ouvre on the topic of how weak people can limit their exposure and inflict serious damage on the Ruling Class. This one is good to start with but he has many:

    The traditional weapon of the weak is magic and if you don’t think it works then it probably doesn’t work for you. Pepe will soon be banned as hate speech but one stretch goal can be get them to ban Winnie the poo and Kermit the frog. Scott is a professional academic and locked into an orthodox materialist paradigm. Breathe free and relegate Darwin and Marx and Freud to the domain of completely unproved theories where they belong. The opposition here ain’t free to do that.

    See here:

    and here:

    and here:

    I expect 4chan and fellow travelers to explode in popularity and relevance. Has Paul Craig Roberts ever heard of 4chan or pepe?

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  255. @Marshal Marlow

    I think the rural people could manage just fine. They could still feed themselves and their neighbors. There are lots of places that have meat. Ranchers are getting real good doing grass fed. It is the way of the future anyhow. Monocultures are on their way out. Big Ag is struggling. They can hold out a whole lot longer than urban areas.

    • Replies: @Vidi
  256. @Jiminy

    The sewers will be backing up before the toilet paper runs out. What are you going to flush the toilet with? Air?

  257. US national debt is 27 trillion and counting.

    • Agree: Beavertales
    • Replies: @glib
  258. @Marshal Marlow

    Very true. I have a friend who lives in the turkey capitol of America. He says the only ones with gardens are religious fanatics preparing for the end of the world. The farmers get their food (except maybe turkeys) at Walmart..

  259. By-tor says:

    Tiananmen is apparently more US-CIA disinformation. There are no photos of the atrocities alleged by the US. If you have any photos, please share them on this thread. I bet a peer of mine \$20 that he would not be able to find any. That was 3 months ago.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow, Biff
    • Replies: @Kapyong
  260. Those low IQ Trump shills would have gotten more bang for their buck organizing all the Trumptards for a nationwide general strike, but that wouldn’t have gave our capitalist overlords the excuse they needed for the Patriot Act 2 nor would it have put a sweet domestic terrorist label on every Trumptards forehead, so I guess that was out of the question. I reckon strikes are for commies and socialists as well, not super smart free market loving conservatives.

    Georgia is a red state with a red governor and legislature, but there were enough Democrats in power locally to steal the presidential and US senate elections.

    Well, it probably wasn’t the best strategy to spend months during the middle of a pandemic, when millions have lost their jobs and healthcare, running ads 24/7 on TV, and sending flyers by the truckload in the mail, labeling the two standard liberal Dems running, “radical socialists, who want to give you healthcare”. Especially when it isn’t even true. Probably not a smart move for the GOP senate leader and Trump to keep stalling the survival checks either. Dems ain’t blameless either, but don’t expect your voters to be real eager to vote for you after the ass raping you’ve been giving them.

    We know for an absolute fact that the tech monopolies are aligned with the Establishment against the people. So much so that President Trump, in the process of being set-up for prosecution, has been cut off from communicating with his supporters both in social media and email.

    Maybe Trump should propose giving them another tax cut? Maybe more deregulation will fix it up? Maybe a few more Federalist Society judges that will 100% rule in favor of the corporation and monopolies will fix things up? More disempowering labor unions? More Reaganomics is what we need right?

    I hate to keep saying it but most of you are really your own worst enemies. Certainly enemies of the white working class. Your entire ideology is more harmful to most white people than any ordinary dindu or beaner is, and most of you are too dumb, too well paid or too proud to even admit it.

    Capitalism is your enemy, and our American version of it is the real white genocide. Fact! Its no accident that 80% of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. 30% of household have zero wealth. 44% of all workers are low wage workers. 40-60% of income goes toward housing. 40% of Americans barely have enough money to cover a \$1000 emergency. These numbers are from before Covid! Only about 10% of Americans belong to a labor union, about half of what it was 40 years ago. 70% of workers in Denmark belong to a union.

    This is all by design. This was done to make you powerless. Same reason healthcare is still tied to your employer here. Kind of hard to go out and protest when you can’t miss a day of work. You’re a lot less likely to talk about forming a union if you can be fired for it, and you can be.

    Same with the drug epidemic here. Its a form of counter revolution. Millions are addicted to Big Pharma psychiatric drugs, such as antidepressants or anti-anxiety medications that turn them into zombies. The opioid epidemic that killed 100s of thousands. The CIA keeps the unemployed and homeless docile by flooding the streets with illicit drugs like fentenyl. Plus it makes the capitalist mucho profits.

    Most of you are still shooting yourself in the foot. You would do yourself a favor by learning about the labor movement here in the US, and all the gains that those evil communists and socialists won for workers over the last century. How race baiting and identity politics has helped reverse all of it. You neo-fascists and contards are the enemy of the white working class with all the red baiting and boogeymanning you all love to do so much. Fact! You are responsible for the dispossession of your own people AKA your own worst enemy.

    Stop getting mad at all the symptoms of capitalism, and get mad at the system itself for Petes sake. Anyone that really believes that the solution is even more capitalism, identity politics or neo-fascism/third position should probably do more reading, from non-fascist sources. The only solution for America is real socialism, empowering the workers. Not racism, busting unions and handing more power to oligarchs.

    and don’t worry Trumptards, any idiots on the “left” who are cheering this censorship/police state on will soon find out that they’re also digging their own graves. Which I’m sure was the whole point after all!

    • Agree: glib, Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
    , @Biff
  261. E_Perez says:

    If it gets really awful for whites here, you may be able to take your family some place more hospitable.

    Hey, hey, what cowardice is this?

    The totally free and oh-so brave fleeing
    “the land of the free and the home of the brave” ???

    After fighting 2 World Wars ruining the White Race, making “the world safe for democracy” and installing absolute Jewish power the Anglo-Saxons leave the sinking ship?

    No, my anonymous friend, your plan B only shows that you are not familiar with the immigration policies outside the US. It has become extremly difficult to get residence, not speaking of citizenship, even in your backyard.

    But you can try in Somalia: warm climate, nice beaches and you will not miss the riots and lootings of your home town…

    • Replies: @RodW
  262. @shylockcracy

    I believe you are mistaken if you think any “elected” politician or anyone else for that matter is making the real decisions for the US. To a man, they are only following instructions and taking orders from much, much higher up.

  263. 9nope9 says:

    Very much agree with this comment. We can now, after these events, clearly discern where our strife originates from. We are being opposed, we do have enemies, not because we are whites, but because we have been top dog. We are gullible to believe that accommodating those who strive to replace us as top-dogs will enlighten themselves to our virtues, and that they will become one of us, and in that way partake in the reign. No. They are determined to wrest reign from us. That does not justify being mean, brutal or barbaric towars them, it just means that we stop our own demise, and start asserting ourselves. I posit and believe strongly that virtue in its hellenistic sense has allowed occidental civilization to prosper, and build modern life. It created synergies, minimized the inefficiencies involved with distrust and connivery which prevented other civilizations to rise in similar matter. Occidental virtue is unique, and certainly honesty is not shared by other cultures in the way we deploy it even in business transactions. But it is also our big weakness if we deploy virtue to those undeserving, those who seek to unduly enrich themselves by wresting power and riches and knowledge away from us. I hesitate to support virtue in the Christian sense, and am looking to find out more about Thomas Aquinus, Francis of Assisi and Augustine. For the current brutal assertion of the established powers currently entrenched, and widely undermined and diluted themselves, resemble medieval curia far too strongly in its deployment of guilt, shame, sin, and in its concocted divinity, and in its withholding knowledge. We have built greatness, and shall go on to build and create further greatness. Know your enemy, they have a silhouette. To come to this realization is a great motivator and win. This clear reckoning of our position is a tremendous turning point. The enemy has had to emerge from their cover, and deception, to strike cruel blows, most of them blunt and desperate. And although deeply entrenched and behind bulwark, the enemy is more exposed than it has been in decades.

  264. glib says:

    I have vivid recollection of the great August 2003 blackout. I spent four days washing dishes with the neighbor’s pool water, and drinking water from my own flush tanks above the toilets. It was august, the car was full, and I had a veg garden pumping out plenty and sufficient dry goods like pasta, although I would not recommend a veg diet to anyone. The gas was on so I could cook. On the fourth day the airport re-opened, and I had a ticket to Europe. I remember going there, watching the scenes at gas stations that could operate, and concluding that society was breaking down. No power, and it is going to be total hell in two weeks.

    • Replies: @FB
  265. Trinity says:

    Looking at that map if one were to believe this election was legit, it would seem that all the places that were blue were either the large cities, Yankee Southern states that have been invaded by swarms of Yankees, illegal invaders, and of course the reliable Left Coast and White retards that inhabit the backwoods of New England. Actually I am shocked by Florida and North Carolina, I would have thought these states given all the illegal invaders and Yankees would have voted Biden. Georgia? Nope. Not buying it. The other states that swung for Biden? Who knows, I know nothing about them. The Senate race in Georgia? In the words of Joe Biden, “come on, man.”

    Back to the real world. Regardless of who you picked in Georgia, none will make this nation better. You have some 33 year old Jew guy that has never done anything, a out and out Black racist who surprisingly claims to be a “reverend”, and the two repube candidates were worthless. Those two Georgia repuke candidates were the same ole same ole. Trump or Biden? Good lawd, who cares at this point.

    Don’t worry though people, the Super Bowl is coming up. Get ready for another anti-White halftime show. I heard the Steelers lost. Damn, I used to be a Ravens fan. Oh well.

  266. @Harry Huntington

    The problem with the argument about “this guy did it before x, y, z” the argument itself is flawed. For the sake of argument, lets call wallace’s movement or movements preceeding big tech “grassroots”. These grassroots movements can only succeed without the overwhelming influence of technology. If wallace was up against the technodemocrats of today and their myriad advantages, he would get crushed like it seems trump did and his supporters(myself included)with him. War is truly our only chance for liberty but its a lost cause without a leader. We will lose by attrition because they care not how many die, in fact they probably want population reduction anyway., and with globalist backing, theyre resources are endless. The window of opportunity is closing rapidly., the more time passes between now and any sort of revolt, the more the military becomes lockstep., as they indoctrinate every recriut., and the young masses at large. The moment Trump walks away peacefully is the moment our republic dies. The best we can hope for at that point is to simply make it as painful as possible for the cabal. Politics will not get us out of this.

  267. @anon

    There is strength in numbers. Surely you do not expect the US government to pull a Tiananmen on its own people?

    Tiananmen Square story was Western media propaganda. In spite of hate, wishes and beliefs, it didn’t happen.

    Ron Unz has also written about this lie.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  268. RodW says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Further, and in stark contrast to the SJWs and antifa, the few racially conscious whites who fantasize about this are mostly too old to make good soldiers.

    At a fit 50 something with a bit of soldiering in my past, I often think how much fun it would be test that proposition. I’m willing to bet I can run faster, shoot straighter, go without food and water longer, swim further underwater, tell more convincing lies etc. than most of the younger people I know. They even look older than me.

  269. @Gapeseed

    Trump is apparently doing the same as Nixon, accepting the steal for the good of the country, supposing he will earn brownie points. He won’t. He will be demonized n hounded to his grave. History would respect him more if he barricaded himself in the White House n went out blazing like Allende. Martyrs have a much longer shelf life than wimps.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @frontier
  270. @redmudhooch

    The problem isn’t red-baiting, but white-baiting. Race is more fundamental than class. Everybody seems to see that but you.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  271. glib says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I don’t see the point of this comment. If Trump creates his own TV channel, cable companies can (and will) not distribute it.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  272. glib says:

    91 trillions is my number, and with the recent surge in printing now probably closer to a round 100 trillions.

  273. Trinity says:
    @Sin City Milla

    “race is more fundamental than class?” Tell that to Pandering Donald Trump, Creepy Joe Biden, Whisperin’ Bill Clinton, etc., etc. Oh yeah, it is fine for everyone else to have loyalty to their own, but not Whitey. I like what Tucker Carlson had to say on his show the other night. Carlson would obviously know about “the elites” being one himself. Carlson admitted that White “elites” abhor the poor Whites and one can see by what has happened to this nation that Carlson must be telling the truth.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  274. @anon

    Agreed. It has been a tactic of the left since the days of Communism to destroy political enemies in person. That was called the Stalin Method. Today’s left inherited the ad hominem attack from them. It’s much easier than trying to get people to think.

  275. @Trinity

    Yes it’s all very unfortunate. The masses are so conditioned to see everything in terms of race-blind class that they can’t see that the only people who still think that way are whites. It’s self defeating. The Dem Party dumped class for identity politics 50 years ago, but still trot out the class card every 4 years at election time, then they go right back to white-baiting for the next 3 years. The Dems are racial all the way.

    Republican leaders still cling to their pathetic libertarianism, which is no defence at all to tribal nepotism n identity politics. They may as well volunteer as museum exhibits. Trump seemed briefly to tap into white resentment, but he abandoned it with nonsense like the Platinum Plan to suck up to the Repubs n they only betrayed him. So he shrugged n is going back to Florida to play golf.

    A serious leader would have barricaded himself in the White House protected by thousands of well armed whites n dared the Dems to do something about it. So once again whites–who are the true actual minority–have zero representation in DC.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  276. anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I’m wondering if any legislator has proposed launching a state-run social media service whose terms of service would be determined by federal laws. Such a service could be managed and supervised by a federal agency. In such a case , at least the government agency status of such a platform would neuter the free market libertarian argument made by private sector social media companies that because they are private companies they are well-within their rights to ban, deplatform, and censor based on ideological considerations.

  277. @tanabear

    Words from 2,500 years ago that could have been written today. Thucydides would be in the first rank today, one of a small handful of men wise enough to understand our decay.
    When the self-destruction of America is complete perhaps a modern Thucydides (Tucker Carlson?) will write “The History of the Woke War”. Or, he could just point to Thucydides and say “this”.

  278. @Sin City Milla

    Trump is apparently doing the same as Nixon, accepting the steal for the good of the country, supposing he will earn brownie points. He won’t. He will be demonized n hounded to his grave.

    Why didn’t Trump pardon Assange? Why didn’t Trump order an investigation into 9/11? Why doesn’t Trump bring the troops home? Why doesn’t Trump release secret documents on JFK, USS Liberty, TWA Flight 800, 9/11, Boston marathon bombing, etc.?

    Instead of doing anything against the “deep state” he’s spending his last few days re-designating Cuba as a state sponsor of terror, designating Yemen’s Houthis as a foreign terrorist organization, antagonizing China, antagonizing Iran, etc. What does any of this do for America or his supporters? And why didn’t he start firing people recently when the ATF tried to ban pistol braces and when they raided Polymer 80?

    Apparently because Trump is deep state all the way. Only a righteous person can oppose the “deep state.” Trump accepts the “steal” because being a criminal himself he is morally powerless to do anything about it.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @By-tor
  279. @tanabear

    As humankind is made subject to God, it becomes progressively less masculine. Peace on Earth is going to require a whole lot of queers. Testosterone is what makes men want to kill each other.

    • Troll: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Jiminy
  280. anon[788] • Disclaimer says:

    Logistical American Expatriation Details

    Obviously, Australia and New Zealand are the best countries. They are somewhat easier to immigrate to than Canada, which has made it more difficult to immigrate in recent years.

    1) You have to have a very applicable or niche skill. Bachelor’s degree preferred. Trade school will suffice if it is an in-demand skill. For example, Australia accepted a number of American air traffic controllers in 1981 after Reagan broke the union. If you only have a high school diploma or GED…under no circumstances will you qualify.

    2) The other option is to invest 1 million or more dollars into a business. Then Australia or New Zealand will accept you.

    3) If you have any sort of criminal record, even for a minor assault, you won’t be eligible.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  281. frontier says:

    The fruits of 1945.

    Indeed, idiot Hitler paved the road to this hell.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  282. People talk of double-standards, and it’s true. Democrat leaders get to call on BLM riots and face no consequences. Antifa scum go free. The Antifa and other scum who were rounded up for burning a limousine and committing other violent acts in the 2017 Inauguration were all set free. The community college professor who bashed someone’s skull was got a slap on the wrist. Antifa can attack Proud Boys, but when Proud Boys fight back, the police only arrests the latter. Twitter and other platforms turn a blind eye to hatred by blacks, Jews, and the like, but ban those who speak up for whites and Christians.
    But as the saying goes, “Fish rots from the head.” So, why should it surprise us that double-standards define American Justice when it happens in the highest echelons of power and with total support of both parties and both the lib masses and con mobs? The biggest double-standard that defines America from top to bottom is the supremacism of Jews and the pervasive favoritism they enjoy from all quarters. Both the Democrats and Republicans have been totally complicit in this. All races and ethnic groups have been complicit as well, out of fear, cowardice, pressure, philosemitism, or money(as Jews have plenty of cash to throw around).
    Do most so-called ‘liberals’ raise a fuss when their elected politicians favor Jews uber Palestinians even though Jews stole Palestinian Land and continue to occupy West Bank and steal more of it? Do most so-called ‘conservatives protest when their elected politicians favor Jews uber Palestinians? No, both the politicians and the people who vote for them are not only complicit in this grave injustice but feel hardly any guilt or pangs of conscience.

    When the uppermost echelons of power act like this and not only get away with it but have the total support of both parties, why should anyone be surprised that double-standards(especially as decreed by Jews) are such a prominent feature of America? All these ‘conservatives’ and patriots bitching about double-standards… well, where the hell were they when Donald Trump was hailing Israel and praising Jews regardless of what they do? Sadly and pathetically, most ‘conservatives’ and a good number of patriots were cheering the Jews/Israel First line.
    So, if anyone wants real credibility on the issue of equal justice and rule of law, he or she must address that the US is double-standard-entrenched at the very top, with Jews in effect doing as they please with full compliance of craven goy elites, and that most certainly includes Donald Trump who, like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama before him, pardoned some of the sleaziest lowlife Jews that ever walked the Earth. So, before white conservative males spout off about how Joe Biden, as the puppet of Jews, is putting whites(and especially white males) in the back of the bus, they should have some self-awareness and ask themselves, “Why did we support Jews in their agenda to dispossess, murder, humiliate, and destroy the Palestinian people, land, and culture when the Palestinians did NOTHING TO US? Why was it okay to put Palestinians in the back of the bus when it came to US foreign policy and ‘human rights’? And if the destruction of an innocent people was just fine with us(indeed with us patting Jews on the back and kissing their ass), why are we now upset that Jewish Power is now doing to us what they did to the Palestinians… with our full support?” Indeed, why was Palestinian Nakba a great thing but White Nakba is a bad thing? If you happily fed your next-door neighbor to an alligator, should you be complaining when the alligator comes after you next? Did you expect gratitude from the alligator? Alligators exists to eat anything, and Jewish Supremacists exist to enslave and control goyim. Of course, most Jews won’t admit as much, and the majority of Jews don’t believe they are supremacist, but if Jews are judged by what they DO as opposed to what they SAY, they are totally supremacist and ‘exceptionalist’. So, any ‘conservative’ or patriot who refuses to address this problem — Jews and cuck-goyim have instituted double-standards for Jews at the highest stratums of power — should just shut up about double-standards at the lower levels of society. It’s like complaining the river is foul without admitting that the source of the river itself is foul. It’s like complaining about the symptoms of cancer without ever naming the cancer.

    Indeed, isn’t it odd that just when the US was moving toward a single-standard in one area, it was also moving toward a double-standard in another area? In the 1950s and 1960s, the US decided that Segregation and Racial Discrimination were wrong. There had to be a same set of rules for both whites and blacks(and measures had to be taken to enforce these standard for the latter). The idea was the American History was marred by two sets of rules, one that advantaged whites and disadvantaged everyone else, especially blacks. Given that the US was founded on principles of freedom and the proposition that ‘all men are created equal’, it was deemed not only wrong but shameful that America for so long failed to enforce equality under the law for all peoples.

    And yet, exactly at the same time, the US was moving toward Jews-uber-Arabs policy. The nation was loudly atoning for its past sins of racial discrimination and favoritism but also totally favoring one group’s ruthless dispossession, oppression, and dehumanization of another. Worse, US support of Israel defied all foreign policy norms. It was nothing new for the US to have morally dubious allies, but it was in the name of national interest, aka realpolitik. As FDR said of a certain foreign leader, “He’s a son-of-a-bitch but our son-of-a-bitch.” Also, the Cold War necessitated that US form alliances with unsavory allies as the evil communist empire has its own satellites. But, this logic didn’t apply to US support of Israel as the sane thing would have been to form alliances with the Arab/Muslim world against the Soviets. If anything, the US support of Israel was the main reason why several key Arab states allied with the USSR. Furthermore, the US had no reason to do any favors for Jews who’d been among the most racial, seditious, subversive, and hostile elements in the US. Not only were Jews prominent in organized crime but in espionage for the Soviet Union. Even the idealistic reason, or idealpolitik, didn’t pass muster upon scrutiny as the Jews took the land from another people, one that had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust. But the combination of Jewish Money & Media power, Christian sentimentalism, chutzpah, signs of Wasp deracination, and awe of Jewish Genius led the US to favor the Jews regardless of what was being done to Palestinians.

    This was the Great Contradiction or the Great Hypocrisy of the US in the second half of the 20th century. Just when it was proclaiming to be moving away from the bad old ways of favoring the white race over non-white races, it was doing everything to favor Jews & Zionists over Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims regardless of morality, ethics, and principles. Whites had to be equal with other races, BUT Jews could be superior to Palestinians(and eventually over all other goyim, which is the current state of affairs in America). Of course, Jews could get away with it as the Civil Rights was domestic issue whereas the Arab-Israeli Conflict was a foreign matter(though Israel today hardly counts as a foreign nation but the symbolic metropole to which America must pay tribute).
    On the other hand, American opinion on the Vietnam War came to parallel developments in the nation itself, and when Muhammad Ali, perhaps the most famous black person in the 60s after MLK, chose prison instead of service, it gelled in the minds of many that the white ‘racism’ toward blacks and American ‘imperialism’ in Vietnam were two sides of the same coin: The Cowboys and Indians view of the world where whites were justified in conquering, killing, and triumphing at any cost. Indeed, not a few Jews drew parallels between US war in Vietnam and the Holocaust, as if the US had become the new nazi nation. So, if American view of foreign policy and American view of domestic issues could meld together into a common narrative with Vietnam, why didn’t this happen with the Arab-Israeli Conflict as well? One might say it was because the Vietnam War was intense and involved 100,000s of servicemen(and 55,000 deaths), whereas the US was not militarily involved the Middle East(except for Israel’s attempt to sink the USS Liberty and pretend it was an accident, with total complicity of the US media, even then dominated by Jews).
    But then, whereas the Vietnam War ended for the US by 1973, the Arab-Israeli Conflict remained in the news all throughout the 80s, 90s, and beyond, though far less since the Zionists consolidated near total control in the West Bank. And through all those years, despite pro-Zionist bias in the media and US politics, surely any perceptive American could have noted that Palestinians had legitimate gripes and didn’t only lose their nation but their remaining territories were occupied and increasingly colonized by Jews. Today, Jewish Caravans freely enter West Bank and carve up more territory with virtually no opposition from US politicians. So, whereas Vietnam just became a memory after the war, the Arab-Israeli Conflict was always in the news. Furthermore, South Africa became very big news in the 80s and 90s, especially with the sanctions/boycott movement. Especially as Apartheid South Africa and Israel were the closest allies, one didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see the parallels between the condition of blacks in South Africa and of Palestinians in Israel and West Bank. And yet, Mandela was sainted whereas Arafat continued to be portrayed as a ‘terrorist’. And the great majority of American Jews denounced South Africa while also demanding that US support Israel’s repressive and discriminatory practices against Palestinians.


    So, despite media bias, there was enough news and information out there for Americans to realize what was happening to the Palestinians and how it paralleled America’s historical ‘sins’ of slavery of blacks and ‘genocide’ of the Indians. And yet, Americans never made any real effort to take notice(which goes to show that American Moralism is mostly the product of external pressure than internal conscience). They just pretended to see Jews as forever Holocaust People even though Shoah was carried out by Europeans, not by Palestinians who, however, were made to pay the price. And whatever attempts to bring some kind of balance was thwarted in both parties by Jewish money. Black Democrats who complained were soon bought off. The ‘Arabists’ in the GOP were soon shunted aside by Neocons for whom the red carpet was rolled out. As the Western Right was more tainted with ‘racism’ and ‘antisemitism’, American Conservatism wooed the white Jews(as blacks were a bridge too far) over to the GOP as the truly pro-Jewish Party.
    Of course, the main reason for GOP’s support of Jews against Palestinians was hardly different than racially discriminatory policies of the past. Jews were seen as fellow whites whereas the Arabs were deemed the brown other. And Jews took advantage of this even while secretly loathing American Conservatives as crypto-Anti-Semites. And then, there were Evangelicals who had both racial and spiritual reasons for favoring Jews over Arabs. Jews were People of the Book(though slated to be wiped out when Jesus returns) whereas Muslims were just heretics. But what about Arab Christians? Well, they were the brown Other and less worthy than white Jews. Due to the Civil Rights Movement and canonization of MLK, it became racially taboo for whites to be anti-black, but they could transfer their racial animus toward brown Arabs via Zionism. Besides, the Holocaust Narrative made it convenient to support Zionist oppression of Palestinians in the name of defending Jews from Another Holocaust being hatched by Arabs as the ‘new nazis’. It all became so disingenuous.

    Yet, was the Great Contradiction really a contradiction? On the surface, it would seem so. A case of Jews denouncing white ‘racism’ against blacks but demanding that the US unconditionally support Zionist ‘racism’ against Palestinians in Israel(and even Wars for Israel that have led to deaths of innumerable lives). Also a case of White America making big show of how it’s seen the light and is on bended knees to atone or what was done to non-whites, especially blacks, while, at the same time, deliriously championing Israel’s ruthless and supremacist policies of racial domination over Palestinians and Arabs. One may ask why the Jews, who were the most vociferous white leaders of the Civil Rights Movement and the biggest critics of white ‘racism’, were also the most fierce and adamant proponents of US policy that always favors Jews/Zionists over Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims regardless of whether Jews are in the right or in the wrong. Why is it that Jews, who condemn the view that white lives are more precious than black lives, push policies that clearly insist that a single hair on a Jew is more precious than a thousand Arab lives?

    And yet, the contradiction isn’t such a contradiction if we dig a little deeper. Beneath the surface rhetoric, both Jewish support of black civil rights and Jewish suppression of Palestinian rights are of a kind designed to favor Jewish Supremacism. After all, Jews pushed the Civil Rights Movement in the US not because they cared about blacks but because they regarded White Christians as their main rivals(even enemies) for power. So, Jews were less motivated by altruism and sympathy(though some were) than by Jewish Supremacism that needed to topple whites and put them in their place. As white goyim greatly outnumbered the Jews, the most effective way was to demoralize whites with ‘white guilt’, which could be instantly disseminated to millions of white hearts via the electronic media controlled by Jews. Just broadcast ROOTS a bunch of times, and whites will feel real sorry.
    So, to Jews, blacks were less a people than a moral cudgel to beat whites with. Of course, blacks were also useful because, being tougher and stronger, they could rob the white man of his ‘iconic’ status in American Manhood. So, blacks were essentially a weapon for Jews to use against whites, not so much to bring about racial equality for all but to pave the way for eventual Jewish Supremacism. With whites demonized and demoralized and furthermore sucking up to Jews and blacks for atonement, who would stand in the way of Jews for total supremacy? And indeed, that’s what happened. Also, with blacks as bribed and dependent allies of Jews and with whites as guilt-ridden cucks(who worship Jews as the holy holocaust people), Jews could do as they please in the Middle East. Though some blacks may see the wrongness of what is going on, they are too dependent and grateful to Jews for the money and media support. So, Jews can pose with blacks as the two great victim groups: The Holy Holocaust People and the Sad Slavery People. And what with whites burdened with Holocaust Guilt and Slavery Guilt, they dare not expend any sympathy on the Palestinians as every last ounce must be reserved for Jews(and blacks and then homos).

    So, just like Tom Hagen says Hyman Roth played the Pantangeli Affair beautifully, it seems the Jews played the game beautifully. By feigning sympathy for blacks in the Civil Rights Movement, Jews gained the alliance of blacks and the moral servitude of whites plagued with ‘white guilt’ about blacks in the US and about Jews in World War II. That made it nearly fool-proof for Jews to do as they please in the Middle East and North Africa, finding any excuse to topple nations, kill countless people, tyrannize the Palestinian population(like Spartans did with the Helots), and act like nasty Judeo-Nazis. Jews sure know how to play the world like a game of chess. But with truth and honesty, we can expose them for what they are. Truth is to evil what light is to vampires.

  283. The United States has ‘dug itself into a really deep hole’, is caught in a really tenacious and powerful trap. .

    I listened today for a few moments to Sec. Of State Pompeo speaking to – and giving a bit of a spanking to – members of Voice of America. He inflicted on his audience the ritualistic recitation of America’s hallowed place among nations, the greatest ever, virtues like no other country, etc etc, and then ended with the obligatory incantation God bless America.

    His delivery was calm, controlled, poured forth easily, from his perspective he offered much seemingly self-evident material. His tone was far removed from discordant tenors commonplace out there in reality-land, no sign of the recent psychological and practical and political maelstrom that his fellow Americans have been caught in, outraged by, confused by, ‘locked down’ into, masked into, and further impoverished by.

    The trap or hole the United States finds itself in has to do with a very longstanding process, a generations long conjunction of ethical depravity and practical failure and intellectual dysfunction, gnawing away at a circumstance that began with so much promise.

    The American Revolution gave birth to a Republic that was the beneficiary of the 18th century European enlightenment. The age old assertions that autocratic rulers, monarchs, aristocrats, theocrats, oligarchs, and so on, used to justify their position, were suddenly being challenged in parts of Europe with vigor. Freedom of thought was being deployed with a vigor not seen since that other great locus of freedom of thought within recorded history – classical Greek culture, a distance of two thousand years. The European enlightenment had a great impact on the ideas that set up the North American Republic: it renounced Monarchy and autocracy, given voice in the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution and especially in the first and second amendments to the Constitution.

    But the 18th century preceded and could not foresee the cultural avalanches that followed: the industrial revolution, and then the age of oil etc, and the electric age, and then the electromagnetic age that we are living in. And through that process, technological and energy and human deployment led to massive financial and industrial global ’empires’, massive conglomerations forming. Massive concentrations of wealth, and thus of political power and influence, were gained by private individuals behind a growing corporate juggernaut.

    So a new aristocracy – contemporary circumstance uses the word billionaire – was formed and the Republic was destroyed in fact, but not in ritual. Pretending and homilies took over. The Republic is long gone. A system of extremely concentrated power has replaced it. The President of the United States, and the people, have been trumped by social media psychos and various other forms of concentrated power. The public interest has been lost sight of.

    So the question is: what to build on the ashes? Sensible reformation would involve vigorous enforcement of decentralization of power and robust honest discourse; back to the basics.

  284. RoHa says:

    The collapse of American democracy (which was never very democratic), but perhaps not the collapse of Western democracy.

  285. @TG

    The USA will end as a political entity comparable to the states they took the immigrants from.
    As Peter Scholl-Latour said*: “„Wer halb Kalkutta aufnimmt, hilft nicht etwa Kalkutta, sondern wird selbst zu Kalkutta!“ (en: Whoever takes in half of Calcutta does not help Calcutta, but becomes Calcutta himself!)
    So Europe will become a mixture of Europistan and Eurafrica.

    *maybe apocryphal

  286. @dogbumbreath

    This is NOT realistic. Most Americans have never left the USA.

    I agree completely, most American citizens are trapped like rats. Neither the means nor the motivation nor the skillset to evacuate.

    For most Americans, the idea of going to another place is to another State.

    It will be interesting to monitor the interstate movement of Americans in the coming years (if the information is actually available – questionable, given the Big Tech Iron Curtain now descending).

    I’d expect there might be an exodus to states like Texas or Florida, and maybe even across the border to Mexico and up north to Canada.

  287. RodW says:

    Lol, that was a mighty entertaining comment, especially the last bit.

    From my perch in Japan, I’m taking every opportunity to urge my neighbours and friends to resist the (((voices))) chiding them for their homogeneity and demanding that they welcome in the world.

  288. jasmin says:

    There is one major problem for the Democrats: who will do the work and pay the taxes to support their major give away programs? Just printing dollar bills has its limits. And how will the corporations survive when there are no customers able to pay for their goods and services? America is headed down the same road as South Africa, a nation that went from a first world country to a third world country in one generation.

  289. FB says: • Website

    Yup. That was just FOUR short little days. Ninety six hours total. Yet it felt like the world was coming to an end.

    The grocery stores were letting people in one by one and just giving them dry goods like boxes of corn flakes and such. Couldn’t charge anything because the cash registers were down. And of course they had to throw out all the refrigerated and frozen food.

    You could get chips and snacks at convenience stores and they were using paper and pencil at the counter. We were better of than most, being on a 50 acre farm with a natural running spring. Thanks for reminding me about water and drinking from your toilet tanks. Yeah, that’s the kind of thing you don’t see coming.

    Like I said, a countrywide power outage that lasts even a few weeks would be civilization ending.

    • Replies: @glib
  290. @glib

    If Trump creates his own TV channel, cable companies can (and will) not distribute it.

    Easy enough to set up his own cable company. Even his own satellite TV.

  291. @Frank34

    Eastern Europe is much safer for white people but the economic is very bad and the languages are very difficult to learn.

    True. But:

    I am an european from a country in western europe. The older people here give their kids the same advise like you but the problem is that there is no country any more which meets this requirements.

    This holds for Eastern Europe too, and for much of the world, Third World especially. Everyone thinks the grass is greener elsewhere and wants to get away instead of making an effort to collectively improve where they are.

    • Replies: @Frank34
  292. I was listening a couple of days ago to a Tunisian professor from Switzerland who dismissed the possibility of the United States plunging into a civil war of any kind.

    His argument was that the United States is ruled by an oligarchy which decides who becomes the president and makes sure that peace and law and order are maintained. In other words the oligarchy doesn’t tolerate disruption and chaos for its own interest and that of the United States.

  293. Jiminy says:
    @Sue Dunham

    My wife loves the crap on Facebook. Today she told me of a baby unwanted by the mother, who already having two daughters, decided on stabbing the new one at least twenty five times with a pair of fingernail scissors. Then dumping the body. There was also a baby found having been stabbed in the back by the ungrateful mother. I find women can be heavy knife fiends. Then check out the videos of lezo cops losing it on the internet. They’re as bad as men. I won’t mention the female whack jobs torturing muslims in US black holes though. So you are right. Men are terrible creatures. I’ve got nothing against homosexuality as long as they don’t make it compulsory. But it obviously would solve the overpopulation problem.

  294. Ugetit says:
    @Give up

    Thanks for letting me know. You are obviously one in a million. Keep digging and every time yer tempted to believe what we’ve all been told, stop and do some more digging. Sometimes it takes decades to get to a deeper truth.

  295. Ugetit says:

    The fact is that our entire civilizational model is incredibly vulnerable and hangs basically on a thread.

    So true.

    It’s the reason I always mocked the “Muslim terrorist” meme. In other words, if there were any, it would be so easy to physically disrupt this country, yet no one ever took the opportunity, or if they did, it was a joke. Also, it’s been apparent to me that all it would take to shut the country down would be to shut off the flow of oil. Do that and most of us are toast, including most farming operations. Even many folks with large stores of food and ammo wouldn’t last long, I bet.

    • Replies: @Charles Carroll
  296. @anon

    Agree but it would depend on the government and this type of government would censor just as much as the private corporations, if not more. My idea of Trump having a media empire would mean that he would have a platform for his views which are unpopular with the MSM and that could create an atmosphere of greater free speech than we have now, not necessarily that his media would allow free speech to views he disagrees with and would probably just push his own propaganda.

  297. Biff says:

    Stop getting mad at all the symptoms of capitalism, and get mad at the system itself

    Ted! What’s shakin’? Still doin’ gods work I see…. Well, right on – keep the news coming….

  298. @frontier

    Liars will spend an eternity in hell 😝

    Did Hitler embargo Central Europe and were in direct alliance with the jewssr, and propped up communist China later? Lol

    Don’t worry, your grandpa was a piece of shit just like you. You will have that express train to eternal damnation.

    • Replies: @frontier
  299. Centralization of social policy in Washington, DC pits us all against each other in an existential struggle for the defense of our most cherished values. Purple counties are where neighbors will be killing each other due to their greater “diversity” of social policy preference. Those are where the bloodshed is _initially_ going to be the greatest. The resolution will come when the blue county urban political power centers lose their life support — electricity, water and natural gas. This can be averted only if Washington, DC’s political power over us all is nullified.

  300. Frank34 says:

    Hungary stand together with countries like Poland, Czech Republik Slovakia and some other countries in East Europe. They are not alone.
    The EU doesn’t want control the borders. It is in their intention to let overun europe by muslims. The EU is under control by the left socialist complex in Europe. The politicans are nothing else as puppets, controlled by the left media complex. Their plan is it to destroy the national states in europe to erect a socialist dictatorship similar to the old USSR. To realize this plan it is improtant for them to create an Inhomogeneous population. So the population is splitted in different groups, fight each other. Divide and conquer was a principle of the old Rome. That is the plan of Merkel and her comrade collegues in the EU.
    I agree with you to punish politicans for their bad decisions and for bad laws they created but it is also important to get the puppeteer who control the politicians.
    Hopefully the patriots get control back over their nations. Good luck to you and all american patriots.

  301. @Harry Huntington

    Indeed. Rather than going toe to toe against superior numbers and resources, If Lee had resorted to guerilla tactics, the South would be a free and independent nation today, where the white man would have a home.

    • Replies: @Charles Carroll
  302. @catdog

    Trump’s got way too much to loose financially to do anything more than he’s already done, which is basically nothing other than bungling himself into a big mess he’ll be fortunate to get out of without serving time.

  303. Znzn says:

    Lots of daft takes here, you need at least part of the army defecting in order to get the job done and make everything a lot easier, in Viet Nam the fighting in the later phases was done by the NVA which won the war by massed armor attacks and air support in the conventional manner.

  304. Frank34 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The saying “Everyone thinks the grass is greener elsewhere” is also well known in my country. It is only, that many politicans and their backers have to much power and haven’t the good well-being of her own people in mind. So it is difficult for normal people to improve their nations, if their politicans are working against them. Look at Germany, Merkel has the complete left green media complex behind her and she is able to destroy the whole country and conquered with her socialist the european union. She was able to overthrow the patriot governments in Italy and Austria and also she supported the socialist parties in spain to got the power.The european union and the media is under her control and they disarmed the people in europe completely in 2019, to make a resistance against their socialists plans impossible. Also switzerland was so stupid to agree with their own disarmament after the referendum in 2019.

    • Agree: frontier
  305. Trinity says:

    I have to say this. America has really been divided since the first Civil War. For years and possibly to this day, the South and its people were treated like second class citizens. A great deal of Southerners still feel that sting today but of course those people don’t count as much as the Jew or negro.

    Yankees RUNNING AWAY FROM LEFTIST SHITHOLES THEY HELPED CREATE AND RUNNING TO SOUTHERN STATES TO ESCAPE. That there is rich. Oh lord, how many times have we heard this one my Florida, Georgia and Carolina brothers and sisters, “This is how we do it up north.” So now I take it that a lot of those Californians and Yankees were just shit talkers like those retard hicks in New England.

  306. annamaria says:

    When a spawn of Tokio-Rose McCain (who had distinguished himself by openly fraternizing with neo-Nazis in Ukraine and by supporting ISIS and such in Syria) opens her masculine mouth to demands the Gitmotizing of Americans for showing up at DC for the peaceful expression of democracy, then there is no hope.
    “Daughter of late Senator John McCain says ‘MAGA terrorists’ should be sent to GITMO & fed dog food:”

    These are domestic terrorists who attacked our own republic. They should be treated the same way we treat Al-Qaeda.

    Honey, your Dad was the greatest admirer of head-choppers and liver-eaters and the likes known (thanks MSM) as ‘moderate terrorists” and ‘freedom fighters:’

    It seems John McCain either is a traitor, as his fellow Veterans from Vietnam call him, or he can’t tell a “moderate rebel” from the ISIS leader.

    The bleached-hair Meghan looks like a man ‘in transition.’

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  307. AND…. Pompeo is already placing the blame for election interference on the Russian boogeyman.

    AND… Shockingly the Q LARP Qtards are buying it hook, line, and sinker.

    • Agree: frontier
  308. @Carroll Price

    The war almost evolved into trench warfare like in WW1. The South would have been able to survive under that scenario too.

  309. @Ugetit

    They would only have to live longer than the people without food and/or water.

  310. glib says:

    Note some things went well for me. My family was already in Europe, I was still there due to work commitments, so two toilet tanks were plenty for me, and I had just filled up (although I then used the car only to go to the airport, but the phone did discharge, so the airport with a taxi would have been a problem). The gardens (two of them) were producing so much that I kept four families (neighbors) vitaminized (getting lasting popularity in our small street, as well as pool water, and eventually getting back five times the value in venison). If I had an electric stove I could not have cooked, and then all that pasta would not have looked so useful.

    I had two acres so I could go to the bathroom where I wanted, unseen. And it was summer. Do the same in winter, no yard, no garden, with three mouths to feed.. I was heating with wood back then but I know it is uncommon, since then I have had forced air, which does not work without power. When your toilet tanks freeze you are going to be in multiple troubles.

    • Replies: @FB
  311. @HT

    Tr u e. If more Americans had read Mein Kampf, they would recognize that Hitler faced and defeated the same Jewish-led movement that’s in the final stages of destroying the United States.

  312. schrub says:

    There might be some hope on the horizon courtesy of Tim Berners-Lee, the original inventor of the world wide web.

    Apparently some VERY smart people have been noticing what has been going on on the internet and have been working in secret with a plan to thwart the takeover. Let’s hope this is the case.

    Read about it here:

  313. Perhaps the statists think they would win, and the military brass think they got it covered. But perhaps not.

    • Replies: @Catdog
  314. By-tor says:
    @Harold Smith

    “Apparently because Trump is deep state all the way. Only a righteous person can oppose the “deep state.” Trump accepts the “steal” because being a criminal himself he is morally powerless to do anything about it.”

    Spoken as a true Millennial, Harold.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  315. frontier says:


    I knew exactly what reaction I’d get and you didn’t disappoint. Nazi cretins can’t even count the dead, much less grasp elementary politics. They are after power and power only, if they can’t kill their opponents they’ll condemn them to hell – showcasing the abilities of a bad case of down syndrome. Little wonder they lose the fight with the commies who are the other bunch of retarded power grabbers. BTW, my grandpa was a lot smarter than the meth-guzzling Nazi morons you worship.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
    , @HeebHunter
  316. We are in a low level civil war right now, a war of attrition. It comes down to race, the underlying issue of everything. “The basic principle in human affairs is not politics but race”. Behind everything you have race, genetics. What will be known centuries later when archeologists, whoever they may be dig up the bones of this civilization, they will see what happened to us from a genetic standpoint. Politics, religeon, culture, language will all be secondary to the basic question of “who” was here.
    At the bottom of all the conflict happening now in this country is race. The other races know it
    and make no attempt to hide that race is the issue. To them, the issue is White people and the fact that they don’t really like them very much. What do you think they “taking the knee” for anyway?
    It is only Whites who want to dance around the issue and pretend that it’s about fairness and equality and not just about race pure and simple. Always taking the high road.
    Wether Whites are killed off outright or simply absorbed and bred out won’t matter much from an archeological standpoint centuries from now. Nor will their “beliefs”. The record will show that a “type” disappeared after building an advanced civilization wich declined as the type who built it vanished.
    The “civil war” we are in breaks down along racial lines, obviously. Red vs. Blue is just Black vs. White.
    To the “Blue” side, their basic viewpoint is that Whites are the problem. Any White people resistant to their mixing with other races and agreeing to become a minority is the problem to them. That “resistance” to the type of “change” they want.
    The “Red” side are the people who are fine the way they are, want to be left alone and don’t feel they need to “change” or be “changed” thank you very much.

    The basic “change” that is talked about comes down to something very simple. Race.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  317. Hegar says:

    “The Establishment” rests entirely on the domination of the media by socialist Jews.

    People talk about the power of social media. These would be regulated immediately of the clique of media owners wanted it. They’d talk about it on the airwaves and in news columns and Congress would act.

    Of course, Facebook and Google are also Jewish inventions. Facilitated by the media, while competitors were not.

    As for civil war, it can’t come. Just like it couldn’t in the Soviet Union. What you can have, however, is mass demonstrations by conservatives. (While “The Saker” is still talking online about how its REALLY “socialists” who oppose immigration, while the Right is for it. And Cultural Marxism doesn’t exist, it’s REALLY the work of the Right. Because media are privately owned!)

    Mass demonstrations are a possibility when Whites increasingly lose their jobs, and we have seen that these can have a real effect in other countries. The media owners will do everything to stop this, of course.

  318. Nisbe says:
    @Morton's toes

    It’s just memetics, not magic.

    In free speech environments truthful ideas survive, lies die. This is why 4chan memes end up spreading all over the internet, the truth the memes contain resonate with people who don’t want to be feed bullshit, so they spread.

  319. Notsofast says:

    songbird mccain as he was known. the internet has been pretty much scrubbed of this information. he and his good buddy john kerry then joined forces to insure that all u.s. pows in vietnam that were left behind were memory holed for good. bomb, bomb, bomb… bomb, bomb iran. funny guy, those neocons have such a sense of humor.

  320. Trinity says:

    Wasn’t Sheldon Adelson one of Trump’s largest donors? Oh well.

    Anyone have a pick on the Super Bowl?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  321. Nisbe says:

    Speaking of counting dead accurately:

    According to the investigations of our kind host Mr. Unz (who is a racial Jew), the official version of the holocaust bears very little credibility, as you can verify for yourself here:

    In case you wish to read more on this subject, I suggest these articles related to 2 people who faced legal charges of holocaust denial an won in the court of law of their respective Countries:


    Also related:

    News in 2016:
    “There Are Just 100,000 Holocaust Survivors Alive Today”

    News in 2020:
    “There are 192,000 Holocaust survivors living in Israel”
    “Archivists are racing to identify every Jewish Holocaust victim – On the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, just 400,000 Holocaust survivors are still alive” – The Economist, Jan 25th 2020 edition


    • Replies: @frontier
    , @Jiminy
  322. frontier says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Trump is apparently doing the same as Nixon, accepting the steal for the good of the country

    Not really, he wasn’t accepting it until he lured his supporters into a trap. Then used them as an excuse for accepting… No Nixon has ever done anything like it. Trump is a basket case.

  323. Nisbe says:


    Whites need to become racially aware once again.

    It doesn’t mean we become racist, it means we stop being race blind, like other races aren’t, and we reject the false narratives of the globohomo mafia, and we each celebrate our differences and cherish our heritage. Race mixing can be tolerated (people can fall in love with people of other races, it happens) but it should never be promoted, because then it becomes a weapon against Whites (as it is being used in our times, since the times of Weimar Republic).


    • Replies: @notoneofthem
  324. beau says:

    the same was true in Viet Nam. how did that turn out?

  325. frontier says:
    @Robert Snefjella

    Sensible reformation would involve vigorous enforcement of decentralization of power and robust honest discourse; back to the basics.

    That’s going to be a tough one… both gov and corps are against the basics now, and they control the comms… But it has to be done, there must be some way to move away from bullshit like “civil war” or “rural resistance”… it’s unbelievable that such nonsense is being even discussed, but it appears trolling has become an art form today.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    , @davidgmillsatty
  326. frontier says:

    Speaking of counting dead accurately:

    See, you proved my point, how predictable… these were NOT the only deaths. Go back to first grade to learn arithmetic.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  327. @Trinity

    Wasn’t Sheldon Adelson one of Trump’s largest donors?

    Yea, he died. Sincerely wish the same to Soros and many others.

  328. @Priss Factor

    Tim Cook’s all time best friend is communist China.

  329. Znzn says:

    How about you take a page from the Spanish civil war, that such an effort is not viable unless you can get a larger part of the armed forces to go along with you?

  330. @By-tor

    Apparently because Trump is deep state all the way. Only a righteous person can oppose the “deep state.” Trump accepts the “steal” because being a criminal himself he is morally powerless to do anything about it.

    Spoken as a true Millennial, Harold.

    I’m not a member of that demographic cohort, but that’s irrelevant because 2 + 2 = 4 no matter who says it.

  331. Nisbe says:

    You aren’t making any sense.

    Use less pilpul, or more, it’s funny to watch you kvetch like that.

    • Replies: @frontier
  332. @Sin City Milla

    A serious leader would call out the elephant in the room (donkey in the room?), that negroes are inherently inferior in all respects other than athletics and are the most violent and racist sub-species. It all due to genetics and evolution. We need to talk more about genetics and evolution.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  333. Trinity says:

    Despite all the chaos brewing around us and our First Amendment under attack, I see the media has took a timeout to honor Sheldon Adelson. Exactly what did this guy do to help build America or why should America care? Anyone know enough about this guy to explain what he accomplished other than building casinos?

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Nisbe
    , @Oemiktlob
  334. Trinity says:

    I hope the MegaMillions isn’t as crooked as this past election. I just wasted 2 bucks on a ticket and my lowest number is in the twenties. I purchased a quick pick, never want to choose the numbers. Is playing the lottery like voting in America?

    • LOL: Emslander
  335. Miro23 says:

    Anyone know enough about this guy (Adelson) to explain what he accomplished other than building casinos?

    Was Trump’s principal donor, pressed for traitor Pollard’s release (which Trump agreed to), and flew Pollard back to Israel on his private jet (to receive a heroes welcome).

    • Thanks: Trinity
  336. Nisbe says:

    Buy up everyone he could to try to benefit Israel at the expense of everyone else.

    Sheldon Adelson said that he regretted serving in the US and not having served in Israel (5), and that his biggest mission in life is to defend Israel. (6) He also said that assimilation is a bad thing for Jews in the West. (7)

    (5) – “Billionaire Gingrich backer Adelson regrets he served in US instead of Israeli military”

    (6) – “Trump’s biggest donors’ ‘mission in life is to protect… the state of Israel’”

    (7) – “Sheldon Adelson:’Acceptance and assimilation are killing us’”

    Just another Israel first subverter who should had taken his ass and money to Israel.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  337. “With the soldiers themselves now a racial and gender mix, the soldiers would be as divided as the country.”
    If Whites decide to fight within or without the military, then victory is assured. White men are the BEST soldiers on the planet and have been for centuries. Whites conquered the world while being greatly outnumbered and frequently outgunned. Whites conquered Africa almost as an afterthought. The Jew’s black and brown foot soldiers simply don’t stand a chance against White men. It’s a foregone conclusion IF Whites will stand up on their hind legs and give it the old college try.

  338. frontier says:

    You aren’t making any sense.

    The fact that you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I gave enough information for an average intelligence man to make his conclusions… but I forgot I was talking to a Nazi supporter, my fault, sorry. OK, in US, when one of a couple of criminals is killed by police in the commitment of a crime, the other one is going to be charged with his murder. By that logic, Hitler is responsible for all deaths in the European theater, including Germans and the present state of Germany. Liebensraum? He had to think a lot more before uttering that one.

    Yes, rhetoric is important as are facts and reason, they aren’t opposites. Rhetoric becomes necessary when the other side refuses to hear any reason, avoids the issue, keeps repeating the same arguments while posting lots and lots of irrelevant propaganda. An endless discussion is worse than no discussion.

    Use less pilpul, or more, it’s funny to watch you kvetch like that.

    And that sentence of yours is an example of both pilpul and kvetching.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  339. Trinity says:

    Anyone who gambles in a casino is a total tool. I used to feel that gambling was innocent, which it could be IF there were decent folks behind it. But alas, like politics, gambling appears to draw the same type of people and they in turn dupe the same type of people.

    Anyone got a pick for the Super Bowl?

  340. Trinity says:

    Hey everyone, peep this, now gorillas can catch “covid-19.”

    I don’t know about you, but I taint putting a mask on that thing. Taint no White man the king of the apes. That Tarzan crap is a fairy tale like our news. hehe.

  341. de Grave says:

    My “Plan B” is not to flee like a coward and delay the inevitable. Chasing down every last White person is the end game here, doesn’t matter where you run to.

    • Agree: Nisbe
  342. Trump has asked the stormers of the capitol to go home peacefully. unfortunately his account has been permanently blocked to cover this up. but the internet does not forget. here are his latest tweets.

  343. Oemiktlob says:

    No, and that story is just another in the endless cycle of “news feed” to keep unthinking people distracted from other more important issues, as you imply.

    I wouldn’t lose any sleep had it been that weasel Mitch McConnell either though, tbh.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  344. Trinity says:

    Did that old cat realize how ridiculous he looked with that RIDICULOUS dye job? All these “important” people are so damn shallow and insecure that they dye their hair? Trump, Rudy, this cat with the casinos. Good lawd, men used to be men. Then you have Joe “Hair Plugs” Biden. Seriously, can’t these old rich goobers deal with getting older. We have people making important decisions and they can’t handle going bald or going grey. smdh.

    • Replies: @Oemiktlob
  345. Oemiktlob says:

    No, but I guess when you have that kind of money you don’t have to worry about the perceptions of someone like you or me either.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  346. Trinity says:

    Money doesn’t impress me one bit. It probably would impress someone who is so shallow that they would care about losing their hair or going grey though. lmao. Wonder if these cats get penile implant surgery.

    Look around people, this is your “elite.” lololol. One cat got rich off of suckers looking to score it big in Vegas and well, you get the picture. Suckers in Vega\$ paid for this dude’s hair dye.

  347. Nisbe says:

    Wrong, I am not a national socialist, so keep kvetching and calling everyone names, your are only showing everyone how desperate you are.

    Nobody has to be a nazi to refuse to take shit from low IQ Jews like you.

    Have a nice life (if you can).

  348. @Robert Snefjella

    So the question is: what to build on the ashes? Sensible reformation would involve vigorous enforcement of decentralization of power and robust honest discourse; back to the basics.

    What ashes? The enemies of enlightenment, democracy and liberty are triumphant. They are building their own city on a hill, but it’s a prison complex.
    If you want ashes, you have to have a war first.

  349. @frontier

    [Comments heavy with profanities and racial/ethnic slurs but having very little content are less likely to be published. Commenters who persist in this may see most of their comments trashed.]

    • LOL: HeebHunter
  350. Vidi says:

    I think the rural people could manage just fine. They could still feed themselves and their neighbors. There are lots of places that have meat. Ranchers are getting real good doing grass fed. It is the way of the future anyhow. Monocultures are on their way out. Big Ag is struggling. They can hold out a whole lot longer than urban areas.

    Right on cue, some people show up to redirect the anger of the 99%. If the rural and the urban areas fight each other, they won’t unite against their true foes, the one percenters. (Yours is not the first comment in this vein; yours is just where I happened to lose my patience.)

    The truth is that the rural and the urban areas need each other: the cities need food, for sure; and the farmers need the things that the cities make, like tractors. The farmers also need the fuel to run the tractors and the pickup trucks; this would not be available when the cities fall. Without these things, farmers’ lives would be dreadful, as they have been through most of history. Subsistence agriculture isn’t fun.

    So I say to both camps: do not be suckered by the one percenters into attacking each other, and not them.

  351. Jiminy says:

    Reading those jewish newspaper headings reminds me of the latest crud, where the new Jews have the trauma of the big cook-off running down through gran-pappys genes. That traumatic event somehow affected their DNA, then being passed along the line of descendants, to the future. I think it was a Dutch study, no doubt promoted by the jews.

    • LOL: Nisbe
  352. @noname27

    Did the French resistance have any impact on the war, or were their acts of sabotage just flashes of light on the edges of Wherhmacht operations?

    • Replies: @noname27
  353. @frontier

    There must be some way…. What do you see as options?

    We now have a legalistic justice system very reminiscent of the European system the colonists hated. We don’t even pretend to do justice anymore.

    We have a Congress that has its only loyalty to the very wealthy. Four senators from Georgia had campaign contributions of \$443 million and that may have just been the runoff. I am sure campaign contributions to the election itself was in the many billions.

    We have a military that spends trillions a year.

    We have a deep state that seems to do whatever it wants regardless of who leads it.

    What besides civil war changes things?

    And of course there is no guarantee that a civil war would change things for the better and for some things would obviously be far worse.

    We definitely have a situation now where the Federalists who wanted a strong centralized government have just beaten the shit out of any anti-Federalist movement again and the government will only grow bigger and more non-responsive to the people.

    And most of the people on both sides have had all they can stand. How many on both sides? Hard to say if it is enough to blow up or not.

    So what solutions are there?

    • Replies: @Marshal Marlow
  354. Oemiktlob says:

    “So I say to both camps: do not be suckered by the one percenters into attacking each other, and not them.”

    Well said. Keep your eyes on the ball. Imho this point cannot be emphasized enough.

  355. @Vidi

    You are preaching to the choir, but all you really make with the 1% argument is a case for civil war and a hope that somehow during it the 1% get destroyed as well. Tell us your strategy for taking out the 1%.

    • Replies: @Oemiktlob
    , @Oemiktlob
    , @Vidi
  356. @kanehaole

    It would be a real shame if something happened to the Hoover Dam. Let’s hope nothing happens…

  357. Anon7 says:

    I’m in my mid-sixties, and I keep waiting for wiser heads to prevail. Biden will be inaugurated, Trump goes along. God only knows what legislation they will try to pass, but they have the power to do it.

    But that’s not happening. Are the Democrats trying to start a war? Because that’s how they’re acting. Their behavior is dangerous, and it doesn’t look like anyone on their side will act like a responsible citizen, let alone a competent leader.

    I refuse to even speculate on what civil war or even secession would look like. They’re playing chicken with people who don’t play.

    I don’t know why Democrats would read this site, but if you are one, you need to demand that your leaders come to their senses and soon.

  358. Oemiktlob says:

    ” Tell us your strategy for taking out the 1%.”

    There is no “taking them out” but they can be put in their place. While I’m not going to say much here for obvious reasons, I will say that the best place to start is by ignoring them. Self-important people can’t stand this. For these types of people this would be intolerable since they view themselves as our betters. It will provoke them but there are far more of us than there are of them. Sacrifices will have to be made but unless each individual person is willing to assert their rightful authority things aren’t going to change. They may have power but they don’t have rightful authority. Show them this. Start networking locally with other like-minded people. Remember the old truism that all politics is local. It’s still true.

    I know you want more but this isn’t the place for those kind of detailed answers.

  359. @davidgmillsatty

    So what solutions are there?

    Ranked choice voting. Its adoption would break up the kabuki dance fakery played out between the existing duopoly while giving people room to meaningfully vent their frustrations without wasting their vote. No idea how ranked choice voting would work at the presidential level though.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  360. Vidi says:

    (oops, did not reply to proper person)

  361. Oemiktlob says:


    I will add that one has to remember that politics is a numbers game at root. This is why when TPTB don’t have the numbers they like or need to achieve their goals they resort to lying, cheating, blackmail, fraud, deception, violence and other methods of “manufacturing consent”, as Chomsky would put it.

  362. Vidi says:

    You are preaching to the choir, but all you really make with the 1% argument is a case for civil war and a hope that somehow during it the 1% get destroyed as well.

    The fighting must be aimed at the right target. If the people at large fight each other and not the 1%, the 1% win.

    Tell us your strategy for taking out the 1%.

    Not that hard, if the military is on our side. The basic outline:

    (1) Issue a new currency, so that whatever cash the 1% happen to have is worthless. This will drastically reduce their influence.

    (2) Expropriate everything and redistribute it to the people. The ownership structure of the 1% is undoubtedly labyrinthine. By expropriating everything, we won’t have to untangle who owns what: the 1% will own nothing. The 99% will also own nothing (except perhaps their houses), but as they already don’t have much, they’ll hardly notice. Their lives will be improved.

    That’s the easy part. The hard part will come later: building a fair country.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Xi-Jinping
  363. @Give up

    They used the “over population” lie to get whites to use birth control and embrace abortion, both of which are heretical to the Christian faith of most whites at the time. Most couldn’t open their eyes, as you could, to the open borders for everyone else. Americans fall for lies because they are trusting, and patriotic – those days may be hopefully over. How many lies have we been deceived into believing in just the last 20 years?

    DT should immediately release the JFK files as he promised as the exclamation point to the charade of an ejection (btw, I typed in “election”, however, it keeps autocorrecting to “ejection” because apparently that is what it was) we just witnessed.

    • Replies: @Publius 2
  364. @Harry Huntington

    It was not the USA that defeated Japan. It was the Russians. And the Japs went along with the narrative, so the Americans would not try them for Warcrimes.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  365. @Vidi

    The Russians did this in 1917. The expropriated everything from the 1%, they didnt quite figure out how to properly redistribute it

    • LOL: Trinity
    • Replies: @Vidi
  366. FB says: • Website

    Definitely your situation with the large lot, veggie garden, and gas service was a huge factor. We didn’t have gas out on the farm, most rural areas don’t, but I did have two wood stoves in the house, plus barbecue tank. A lot of farm folks heat by propane and will have large tanks on site. Again, the biggest plus was the spring water, which even most farms will not have, but they will have drilled water wells and you can use a small gas powered generator to run the well pump. Bathroom is no problem either because you have your own septic tank, and if you have water, you just fill the toilet bowl tanks for each use.

    Not having any of those things, and sitting in the city, you would be screwed. I honestly can’t imagine the chaos if that power outage back in 03 had gone on a month instead of a few days. Would it even be survivable? How do you get bottled water and non-perishable food to millions of people, especially with gas station pumps not working?

    Really it would be a very short time before things got very desperate and out of control. People just don’t think about what would really happen if one day you go to turn on your lights and nothing happens. Just remember not to flush your toilet, because that little bit of water in your tank just might save your life.

    • Thanks: Emslander
  367. Miro23 says:

    IMO the answer is to avoid anything to do with the Anglo world (UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand). They’re all woke with ZioGlob governments.

    The problem then is learning a foreign language. Spanish isn’t too difficult and opens possibilities in white friendly places like Argentina, Uruguay and Chile.

  368. @indocon

    The proverbial jugular. Suddenly, flyover country would matter to them.

  369. Kapyong says:

    “Tiananmen is apparently more US-CIA disinformation.”

    A tank column being careful not to hurt a single citizen getting in the way is somehow evidence of a brutal massacre of thousands.

    A clip of an APC running over a barricade is always accompanied by a voice-over about “tanks running over students in their sleeping bags” – but there’s none in the video, nor any evidence.

    The “evidence” for the alleged massacre is mostly lurid claims from lying westerners who were not present, while more sober accounts from witnesses and locals are ignored.

    It’s bollocks.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
  370. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:

    I cannot believe that someone is allow to express this blatantly false and conspiratorial opinion: Antifa is free to riot, loot, intimidate and hassle. How can you presume that Antifa is even an organization? Do you have proof? Do you have any names? Perhaps its just a made up name from some group on Parler. If you can’t find an enemy, then make one up instead.
    This whole attack on the Capital was started by Trump. He motivated his supporters and told them to do it. What is wrong when you can’t even tell reality from conspiracy or right from wrong? It is people like you who are destroying the UNITED states of America.

    • Troll: Catdog
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  371. @Nisbe

    Race-mixing is uniquely deadly for Whites because of the recessive genetics, wich means when Whites mix with other races, the White traits get bred out very rapidly. Race-mixing is the Achilles Heel of White populations.
    If you have all barriers both socially and legally removed that prevent the mixing of races, then you introduce large numbers of new-comers of different races into a population, you have Whites with recessive genes who breed slower than the other races who have higher birth rates plus dominant genetics. It does not take long for the White population in such conditions to be totally swamped by the other races to the point of disappearance.
    Then you couple that with a democratic form of government where numbers=power. Once the White population is swamped and it becomes the minority, then it’s political power vanishes along with it’s physical presence. Once that change takes place, political power is now in the hands of whoever becomes the majority.
    You can see the move to form this coalition among the “Blue” forces, “P.O.C.”, everybody who is not White united against the vanishing Whites, regardless of the various differences they may have with each other, they can all agree to unite as a single anti-White -pro-race-mixing coalition that will be unstoppable.
    Whites are encouraged to support this movement wich will result in them becoming a minority in the name of being progressive and good. They think that they can insulate themselves from any negative consequences of becoming a minority. They think that the new population that replaces them will thank them for the kindness of what they did. That remains to be seen.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @geokat62
  372. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Snefjella

    Agree, How can anyone say this country is what the forefathers envisioned? Its wholefully unequal and run by Corpitalists. There are just too many issues that are not being addressed and the ;majority are being manipulated by an illusion of equality and opportunity that does not exist. This country needs a constitutional rewrite. The 2nd amendment is a curse, never intended to allow the free reign of automated weapons. The right of gun ownership should not allow them to used outside your own home. Any expansion of that right should be the domain of the states who may issues licenses and permits. This would allow states to ban weapons in the public domain for the safety of all.


    Lists of Known Victims, complied by June Fourth Victims’ network

    So are these lists of the dead “more US-CIA disinformation?”

    If so, where is the evidence that this is fakery?

    • Troll: FB
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  374. blaqua says:

    Interesting points, but I don’t share the columnist’s pessimism, as I don’t foresee any chance of civil war in the US in the near future. The vital needs of miserable citizens must be threatened in order for a long and violent revolution to take place. Americans in general, regardless of political, religious and racial colors, live in wealth and abundance. Skirmishes of political violence may increase though, while a few conservative federal states may require more freedom from the central government and in the worst and rather unlikely scenario independence, secession.

  375. @anonymous

    The 2nd amendment is a curse, never intended to allow the free reign of automated weapons.

    Clearly, you are an idiot. Private machine gun development occurred in the time era of the adoption of the 2nd amendment, with the US Navy adopting it.

    A “curse” only for those that want to steal elections, like when Democrats tried to steal an election after World War 2 in the State of Tennessee.


    What the USA needs is Constitutional Carry where people can carry what they want when they want it so that the criminals (private and otherwise) will fear people.

  376. PCR’s article is well thought out. It examines the subject of his article with rationality. He explores the possible causes of a civil war by examining the content of this present state of the political landscape in the U.S. The voting count is problematic as the pattern of the collected votes seems to be suspicious in regard to its timing of collection, resulting in great increases of Biden’s vote total, in a matter of hours. Also votes collected in blue areas of some states were more than that of registered voters on their rolls. These are clear improprieties of this Presidential Election of 2020. There is also the fact that not one of the courts petitioned by Trump’s lawyers, heard their case, on the grounds that there was not enough evidence to muster legal standing. It is evident that the president’s legal team provided enough evidence both factual and on videos to merit at least one court hearing. There is another reason to speculate that of the 75 million people who voted for Trump, not one of them think this election was fair. This reason could be ample enough to ignite a civil war. Can 75 million people be wrong?

    Robertson lists potential scenarios such as censorship of free speech by social media and print, mis-characterization and discrimination against Trump supporters, and, with regard to employment (hiring and firing). He evaluates the chances of civil war in our country to be 50%, which seems logical, measured, and safe (sitting on the proverbial fence). Unfortunately, human beings on our planet, at this stage of our evolution, have not demonstrated a willingness to use their abilities to reason in order to remediate problems and conflicts. I’ll prophecy we will have civil war and perhaps one to follow at a 95% certainty. I hope I’m wrong.

  377. Bookish1 says:

    What you are saying has been played out hundreds of times throughout history as we can see in the dark people of Iran, Greece, and many other places in the world that once were white.

  378. @Xi-Jinping

    It was not the USA that defeated Japan. It was the Russians.

    To the best of my knowledge, Russians (the USSR, so in reality many nations participated) defeated Nazi Germany. Remember, much promoted in the West D-day happened on June 6, 1944, about 11 months before Germany capitulation. By that time the war with the USSR went on for almost three years. The USSR contributed to the defeat of Japan (annihilated about a million strong Japanese Kwantung army in Manchuria), but Japan was mostly defeated by the US.

    • Replies: @Xi-Jinping
  379. Ron Unz says:
    @Joe Stalin

    So are these lists of the dead “more US-CIA disinformation?”

    If so, where is the evidence that this is fakery?

    Anybody who relies upon Wikipedia for unbiased information on “controversial topics” is a fool.

    Based upon all available evidence, the official Chinese claims about Tiananmen Square seem to have been mostly correct, while for decades our Western MSM has been entirely dishonest. Do you also believe all the current MSM headlines about the Trump’s “attempted coup” in DC last week?

    For example, over 20 years ago the former Beijing bureau chief of the Washington Post, who personally covered the events, admitted that whole story was basically a media hoax. I discussed the entire issue towards the beginning of an article last year and you might want to take a look at it:

    • Thanks: FB
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  380. geokat62 says:

    They think that the new population that replaces them will thank them for the kindness of what they did. That remains to be seen.

    Remains to be seen? Hmmm, see the results of South Africa’s so-called rainbow nation.

  381. noname27 says: • Website
    @John Up North

    I believe they performed invaluable tasks on the run up to D-Day, but apart from that they were just an irritant to the Germans. But you seem to have missed the point I was making, that is, that there is nothing like The French Resistance operational in the USA.

    Americans are doing nothing to stop their dystopian future. Brits and Germans are the same.

  382. noname27 says: • Website

    It would appear that you have not read my comment or, if you have, then you have not understood it.

  383. @AnonFromTN

    If you read the article I posted, the USA bombed Japan for 4 years and in many cases reduced many cities to rubble. The Emperor and top Japanese brass did not view any of these things as negatives, their sentiment was “the citizens will become accustomed to this as the new normal” and Japanese troops were ironically high in moral and unwilling to surrender. The dropping of the A bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not even register for the Japanese leadership because there were other cities that were bombed even worse on the same day (and throughout the 4 years).

    When Stalin announced that the USSR would join the War on Japan, and rapidly conquered Manchuria, the Japanese leadership knew that the Soviets could be in Japan proper within 10 days and would likely try the government for warcrimes. This is why they surrendered to the Americans. “American defeat” or “Atomic bombs” had nothing to do with it.

    • Agree: FB, yurivku
    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  384. Publius 2 says:

    But in the meantime they will have the power to kill many whites. We see this already with local police forces–largely brown in big cities. They are stupid and they have been trained by the Jmedia to hate whites. There are already some famous examples–Ashli Babbitt being the most recent–of black cops shooting unarmed white women that were clearly posing ZERO threat to anyone. (Unlike when 350 pound thugs like Michael Brown are killed when fighting with 150 pounds cops and trying to take their gun or when Saint George OD’s on fentanyl.)

    Just because of the awesome power of the military and their equipment (and communist leadership at the top), the military will easily have the ability to do things like massacre a large crowd of white protesters, and we will probably see that happen.

    And again, in individual situations day by day, in stories that will barely be covered even on the local news, brown cops will be killing innocent white citizens with the subconscious feeling that it is justified “revenge” for “systemic racism” or “white privilege”, or simply because they have an IQ of 85 and are incompetent.

    The low IQs in the military have AWESOME power to do destruction, even if they do sink ships every once in a while because the two commanders of the ship are women who won’t talk to each other because of a cat fight or whatever.

    Affirmative action puts lives in danger.

    • Replies: @notoneofthem
  385. Publius 2 says:

    Sigh … you people saying what Trump should do just don’t get it. He literally cannot release the JFK files or do any other DECLAS. He ordered that to be done last year and it simply didn’t happen. Nobody will follow his orders and he literally cannot, himself, physically do it. He is alone, completely abandoned by all. He should be very scared right now. But again, on the issue of DECLAS, he is an old boomer and he does not have access to the physical ability to do DECLAS by himself. Someone would have to follow his order to do it and nobody will.

  386. Vidi says:

    The Russians did this in 1917. The expropriated everything from the 1%, they didnt quite figure out how to properly redistribute it

    I was confident the total expropriation would indeed defeat the 1%, but it’s good to have historical evidence. By the way, the new currency is just as critical as expropriation, as most of the one percenters probably have offshore assets.

  387. @Ron Unz

    My question still stands, the Mother’s Lists has over a hundred names of people claimed to have been killed in TS along with details.

    The lists archived on the wayback machine date back to 2009, and give details for each death.

    Not something you can hand wave off.

    Take a look yourself.

    Lists of Known Victims, complied by June Fourth Victims’ network

    Can you or any of the skeptics on TS deaths give contradictory information on these individual deaths?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Ron Unz
  388. @anonymous

    The 2nd amendment is a curse, never intended to allow the free reign of automated weapons. The right of gun ownership should not allow them to used outside your own home. Any expansion of that right should be the domain of the states who may issues licenses and permits. This would allow states to ban weapons in the public domain for the safety of all.

    In a sense the whole constitution HAS BECOME a curse. The Founders and Framers explained how this could happen and it did.

    According to John Adams:

    We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    As far as the second amendment is concerned, a “moral and religious people” as envisioned by the Founders and Framers would generally pose no threat to the rights and legitimate interests of anyone else no matter what they’re armed with. But when we reach a tipping point where enough people don’t know right from wrong, allow themselves to become ignorant, etc., and we consequently have a situation when money and media control determine who runs things, we’re screwed.

    At this point we’d probably be better off just randomly picking our “politicians” off the street rather than selecting them through a completely subverted process run by evil people who manipulate the benighted masses.

  389. @Joe Stalin

    The answer is simple and ages old: “he who pays the musicians calls the tune”. We had so many “comrade Ogilvy” stories in the MSM lately that if NYT says that 2×2=4, I’d start doubting even that.

    • Replies: @FB
  390. @Marshal Marlow

    That would have a minimal effect if any at all. Having multiple choices of oligarchs to choose from doesn’t help much.

  391. @anonymous

    That is absolutely false. Constitutional lawyers of repute say something quite different. It was nothing but political speech that might have been worded better. Jonathan Turley will set you straight. What Trump said does not qualify as incitement speech. If every politician gave a speech and then had supporters do some kind of damage, they would all be in jail for incitement.

  392. FB says: • Website

    Nice try, but I don’t think there’s any way to help this twerp who has appropriated the name of the great Russian leader [while possessing as much gray matter as would barely fill Uncle Joe’s tobacco pipe].

    And I’m sure the Orwell reference sailed well clear of his tiny [but noisy] head. 😂

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  393. Ron Unz says:
    @Joe Stalin

    My question still stands, the Mother’s Lists has over a hundred names of people claimed to have been killed in TS along with details…

    Can you or any of the skeptics on TS deaths give contradictory information on these individual deaths?

    Well, there are supposedly lists of 155 people killed, but the links are broken when I tried to click them. However, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the names and facts are generally correct.

    If you’d bother reading the first part of my long article or the sources I cite, you’d see that the official PRC position was that something like 300 people were killed that day, including quite a number of soldiers, during the suppression of the violent riots that broke out in various parts of Beijing. All the student-occupiers of TS left peacefully, but lots of other people died elsewhere in the city. With many soldiers burned alive by Molotov cocktails, the riots were vastly more violent than anything we’ve had in the US for over 100 years.

    Offhand, this seems perfectly consistent with 155 victims being named in the lists you tried to link. So this supports my conclusion that the PRC government seemed to be mostly telling the truth, while our MSM has been lying for decades.

    You really should try reading my article and then decide for yourself:

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    , @Eagle Eye
  394. @FB

    You are likely right. One can only try. Hired morons would miss the meaning, but honest readers, like you, would get it.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  395. @Publius 2

    Any police encounter where someone dies and the victim is Black and the cop is White, the media will automatically jump to the conclusion that it was racism, and that the killing was un-justified. Then the riots will start. Without any evidence that the killing was either unlawful or motivated by any racism. They will just assume that it was, based merely on the races of those involved.
    If a Black cop shoots a White suspect then it is not even permitted to question wether the killing was justified or if it was motivated by race. Any such questioning would in itself be called racism.
    So it’s a double standard that puts Whites in a no-win situation. No matter what the scenario is Whites will always be called racists.

    Ashli Babbit will be called a racist. The cop who shot her will be called a hero. Anyone questioning wether or not the killing was justifiable will also be called racist.

  396. Randy2222 says:

    The constitution is not worth the paper it’s wrote on. It’s to open to interpretation, and that interpretation is dependent on the Supreme Court Judges. So the chains that tie down the government are broken. Making the constitution useless.
    The government fell into the hands of the lending institutions and the moneyed corporations. So now we have to go back to the “Declaration of Independence” to restore order. So the only recourse is to abolish the government. The “Declaration of Independence” gives power to the people to do just that.
    When tyranny is law, rebellion is duty. The fires of rebellion have been lit and have been smoldering for years, 4 years ago those smoldering ashes flamed up; Brexit, Trump, Yellow Vest, etc. Now they are trying to extinguish those flames, but we must not let that happen we need to add fuel to the fire.

    “I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have … The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    “To consider judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions is a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    “Who will govern the governors? There is only one force in the nation that can be depended upon to keep the government pure and the governors honest, and that is the people themselves. They alone, if well informed, are capable of preventing the corruption of power, and of restoring the nation to its rightful course if it should go astray. They alone are the safest depository of the ultimate powers of government.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    “The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed corporations”
    Thomas Jefferson

    “Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    “A little rebellion now and then… Is a sound medicine necessary for the sound health of government”
    Thomas Jefferson

    “When the people are afraid of government, that’s tyranny. When the government is afraid of the people that’s liberty”
    Thomas Jefferson

    “When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty”
    Thomas Jefferson

    “Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    “The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    • Agree: Oemiktlob
    • Thanks: Eagle Eye
    • Replies: @Miro23
  397. blaqua says:

    Americans don’t even demonstrate against exorbitant medical costs. I’ve never seen riots of ‘yellow vests’ style in the US and yet so many citizens complain and are in dire straits because of the ridiculous medical bills. The possibility of a civil war should not be taken seriously.

  398. Miro23 says:

    “Who will govern the governors? There is only one force in the nation that can be depended upon to keep the government pure and the governors honest, and that is the THE PEOPLE THEMSELEVES. They alone, IF WELL INFORMED, are capable of preventing the corruption of power, and of restoring the nation to its rightful course if it should go astray. They alone are the safest depository of the ultimate powers of government.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

    Getting citizens involved in studying and discussing issues (to be well informed) is a big challenge. If this can’t be organized then these are just empty words. And, getting all citizens involved issue by issue (with no opt outs) would at a minimum involve:

    – Paid time off work for meetings (obligatory employer agreement)

    – Dedicated meeting halls (no electronic meetings).

    – Quality independent research/presentations on the pros/cons of each issue.

    – A permanent research staff (by statute no bias).

    – A permanent administrative staff. Notifications, mailing, organizing meetings, follow up, voting procedure.

    – Realistically it would also require obligatory citizen attendance with legal sanctions (otherwise no one would attend).

    If by some miracle, US citizens could get this working, they could cast informed issue by issue votes (free of special interests) that could be summed over towns/counties/states to provide INFORMED DECISIONS from THE PEOPLE, that AUTOMATICALLY BECOME LAW and which may not be legally challenged.

    It’s obviously slow and expensive, and the public would probably hate it, but it looks like the cost of real Democracy.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
  399. Trinity says:

    I think it is safe to say that dude busting out those windows with a shield is not a likely Trump supporter. Matter of fact, I am not sure what that guy was? Is he White? Peep this, “White Supremacists” led by the Mexican/Middle Eastern hybrid climbing through the window, a female ex veteran Ashli Babbitt who more than likely was muh Israel, ( other than being against child molestation, I have no idea what her cause was), etc. That was shit show indeed. Does anyone question why the Capitol of America could be “breached” by such a sad sack like the infamous Viking/Indian War Chief and the git-r-done with the work boots on Pelosi’s desk? The sad part is that the entire world, not just China is laughing at America. I was amazed at how unfit those Capitol policeman seemed. Really these guys looked like they belonged sitting in a shed outside some factory checking work badges. I would have thought the police guarding the Capitol would be twenty something to early thirty somethings built like the cross between a triathlete and an NFL linebacker. Did you see the shape of the Black guy who held off the mob going up the stairs? Sorry but that thing seems staged as hell.

  400. Eagle Eye says:
    @Ron Unz

    It is disturbing to note how the tone of Mr. Unz’s argument – sober and fact-based as always – now seems to stand out against the coordinated cacophony of media half-truths in 2021.

    Over a mere 12 months, the Overton window of most media discourse has lurched far away from any notions of open inquiry, primary sources, weighing contradictory evidence, let alone honest consideration of alternative hypotheses. (Not that January 2020 was in any way the Golden Age of dispassionate disputation.)

  401. deschutes says:

    It is sad to see Paul Craig Roberts, who used to be published on, go down the conspiracy rabbit hole to make such ridiculous claims as his baselessly claiming the Nov 2020 election was ‘stolen’ by Biden (if yes, why did every single court case by Trump’s lawyers get thrown out? Especially the Supreme Court case–which has a 6-3 conservative pro-Trump majority?).

    It seems pretty clear to me that Paul C. Roberts is short on cash and Ron Unz is paying him substantially to write right wing agit-prop like this article.

    This website is full of crap like this. You are being manipulated.

  402. Eagle Eye says:

    … why did every single court case by Trump’s lawyers get thrown out?

    You are representing to UNZ readers that Trump’s side did not prevail in a SINGLE court case.

    THAT STATEMENT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. For example, a Pennsylvania court issued an order finding that the PA secretary of state had acted unlawfully by purporting to “reinterpret” election legislation.

    Especially the Supreme Court case–which has a 6-3 conservative pro-Trump majority?

    The Supreme Court is a POLITICAL institution subject to its own institutional imperatives.

    As one observer noted about the U.S. court system:

    “To consider judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions is a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

  403. geokat62 says:

    This website is full of crap like this. You are being manipulated.

    Yeah, you are being manipulated, goy. If you’re seeking the truth, go read the NYT (the paper of record) or WaPo (democracy dies in darkness). But, for heaven’s sake, stay away from Unz. It’s full of cunpseerasee theories.

  404. At this juncture, I do not see how a civil war can be avoided.

  405. @deschutes

    The Supreme Court should have never refused to decide a case on the merits where at least 20 attorney generals asked it to do precisely that. It was a very legitimate Constitutional issue. If the Supreme Court had decided in Texas’ favor on the merits, which seems highly likely they would have had to do given the language of the Constitution, then Biden would not be President.

    Ducking this case on its merits, is why Biden is the President.

    And you obviously do not understand that no case in all of the lower courts, except one which ultimately made no difference, was ever decided on the merits.

    Our courts have become a very legalistic and procedure driven. That kind of legal system does not produce justice. That is the kind of legal system the ancestors of our founding fathers had experienced in Europe and did not want here.

    The first thing the preamble to the Constitution says the country is being formed in order to do is to establish justice. You do not establish justice with legalistic procedure driven decisions. You establish it by deciding cases on the merits.

  406. @Xi-Jinping

    Your entire comment is garbage, full to the brim with falsehoods. The Soviet Union would not have been “in Japan proper in ten days”, they didn’t have the large scale amphibious assault capability. The SU’s contribution to Japan’s defeat was minimal, they didnt enter the war until August 6, 1945. Not only did the SU not have the amphibious assault capability, but the Russians could not have approached Japan with the Japanese Navy intact, in fact the Japanese Navy would have destroyed any Russian naval sorties, the IJN in its heyday was very, very formidible. A neccesary precusor to invasion of Japan was destruction of the IJN, and that was accomplished by The United States Navy. The United States did all the heavy lifting to defeat Japan, and the Island Hopping Campaign strategy was military brilliance that woild have made Napoleon jealous. The Japanese surrendered within days of the A-bomb attacks, it certainly “registered” with the Japanese government. The United States did not bomb Japan for “four years”. The air campaign could not start until The Marianas were taken(October 1944) and the B-29 base was built on Tinian Island. However the air campaign was delayed until early 1945 as a hitherto unknown phenomena, The Jet Stream, was encountered over Japan that made daylight precision bombing from 35,000 feet, the B-29’s specialty, impossible. However the Japanese had almost zero night fighter capability and minimal low altitude AAA. The tactical solution was night raids at very low altitude(5,000 feet) using area bombing. The incendiary attacks on Japanese cities were not intended, but driven by military neccesity. These air raids “knocked the heart out”(in Musashi’s famous phrase) of the Japanese people, but the Japanese Army held the people in a stranglehold, and an amphibious invasion would have triggered fanatical, suicidal, utterly stupid and useless resistance. The atomic bomb was what got the boneheads in the Japanese leadership to finally recognize reality, and they came to their senses within days. That the Japanese people had their “heart knocked out” was proven after surrender. There was certainly no resistance, and generalized cooperation by the Japanese to the American occupation, particularly when they saw that The United States instituted land reform, giving the land to the poor farmers that worked it, the vote for women, and the rebuilding of Japanese industry on an export of finished goods model while opening the American market to massive imports of Japanese products. The stupidity of your comment is nauseating, but your smug confidence in your worthless opinion is absurd. That “FB” agrees with your comment is testimony to its value, which is less than zero.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  407. lavoisier says: • Website


    But before anything can be done people have to be aware that there is indeed a serious problem.

  408. Those trends have been long in evidence. Certain cultures and church believe they have the right to dictate to the rest.

    Fine with me, if that is what the nation really wants they have have it.
    At 74 I am just indulging morbid curiosity.

  409. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:

    Compare what happened in Germany when the Reichstag was burned. Check this out.

  410. Stephan says:

    “Consider how easy it was for the Capitol Police to remove barriers and allow some Antifa mixed in with Trump supporters into the Capitol.”

    PCR has lost the plot. This is a paranoid fever dream at best. The people committing violence at the capitol are on film and they were not Antifa. White supremacists were very well represented, they are identifiable and on video. Get a grip on reality. So pathetic to see PCR hiding and avoiding it like this. I thought this was a great man!

    KKK Trump supporters storm government buildings with weapons and threaten to kill elected representatives. BLM rallies topple statues, not government. BLM stands for “please stop letting cops murder black people” KKK Trump supporters stand for “let’s kill black people.” If you can’t understand this kindergarden-level basic shit, then you may be hopeless.

    Sad for someone to burry their head so deep in the sand in order to stick to this pathetic and failed narrative. Democracy is certainly in danger, but PCR is doing as much to divide and conquer and mentally enfeeble us as anyone.

    Hard to believe someone as smart as PCR can think a lunatic, megalomaniac con man like Trump has the country’s best interests in mind. FAIL. I also detest the establishment and all the baseless Russia smears, but if you want to actually contribute to a better future, if you care about humanity even a little bit, stick to reality. This is the most cry-baby, go-into-denial-and-bang-my-fists-on-the-wall post from PCR I have ever read. This is not thought-out argument and evidence, this is the tantrum of a child loser.

    • Agree: Harold Smith, obvious
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  411. @Stephan

    No, the issue at the White House was voting fraud. Not a single protestor said anything about killing African-Americans.

    Only an African-American police officer shot an unarmed white woman.

    Racism had nothing to do with the issue at hand, as evidence by the small number of protestors who were African-American.

    You seem to be equating Republicanism with white racism, which is typical of a Liberal Left-Wing socialist at the authoritarian end of that political spectrum.

    Black Lives Matters resulted in far more deaths than an election fraud debate.

    • Replies: @obvious
  412. anarchyst says:

    There is another way…
    When a social media organization’s “reach” exceeds a certain percentage of the total population of the country, it ceases to be a “publisher” or “content provider” and is reclassified as a “common carrier”, which is required to accept all customers without regard to content, not unlike the telephone companies.

    • Replies: @obvious
  413. tonie says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “The racial right has been fantasizing about a civil war since forever, but I can’t see it. Too many people have too much to lose, there’s no real desire for blood, and the people are anyway too soft to initiate or withstand the violence real war would unleash upon them. ”

    Where have you been in just the last year? In a gated community. Upwards of 40 million american’s have lost their jobs or business’s

    • Replies: @obvious
  414. obvious says:

    It’s mostly bullshit jobs and bullshit “business”, and most people don’t live anywhere near a “gated community”. The economy is going shift and “reset” away from many obsolete things, and what does any of it have to do with “civil war”?? Who exactly is your enemy other than cartoonish ideas about “other people”? The gate that will come crashing down is going to lock you out of mainstream society, cut off your access to everything, and provide a one way ticket to the white moron reservation.

    After all, you insisted.

  415. obvious says:
    @James Speaks

    What happens when the patriotic Pence and Pelosi round up the seditious Trumptard Ape and lock them up in zoos? You people always need a platform to assume the middle and act important.

    Nobody needs ANYTHING “produced” by Middle Moronica and it is completely dependent on the same system. I would say EASIER to cut off for being more landlocked and spread out…. and a lot dumber on average:

    old news by now

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
  416. obvious says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    It has nothing to do with “voter fraud”, because this is a senseless topic for millions of people to care about either way. Since when is the American Presidency personally important to anyone? Only moron baby boomers care about this stuff. The explanation must lie elsewhere, and all the spastic misuse of vocabulary covers much deeper turmoil.

    It isn’t “race” either, it’s entitlement and low breeding after 2 generations of decline.

  417. obvious says:

    The basis is not “reach”, it’s public utility regulation. Social media could reach the whole world by distributed interfacing blockchain and be completely outside the purview of any government, without coherent centers or geographic locations.

    Language is the ultimate “distributed blockchain”, it is a common carrier without tangible existence anywhere. The utility regulations were designed against the physical capacity of systems that rely on public support, solid enough to grasp in hand. Social medium have no “customers” at all.

  418. obvious says:
    @Ron T

    All the trump morons are “russian agents”. It’s something propped and pulled by the “Russian” agenda, who have studied Moricano culture closely and know what buzzwords to get them “triggered”:

    an ideological platform that is bringing Russian and Western right wing revisionists closer together

  419. obvious says:

    ‘They” also have nothing to complain about either. Which face is “declared winner” on the tee vee??

    why would anyone care either way… this is the difference between the moron frenzy and real political movements: notice that in every other land under the sun, there is a cross section of real society that stands to benefit, instead it was just a bunch of dirtbags drawn together by the “unstructured mental fantasy qanon buffet”.

    Could the Proud Boys govern a County? Is there any town in America that ever managed to install a “populist” government? What would you do with it if somebody handed this power over for free? Nothing.

    Nothing besides wander around inside City Hall like illiterate apes, miming scenes from movies sown over the culture for the last 40 years or so. Party politics are the foundation of all movements, but this is just outrage about nothing wrapped up in social media, credit cards, and menthol cigarettes.

    • Replies: @noname27
  420. Republicans need to make personal attacks on Biden. He is extremely vulnerable for his pedophilia and his dementia. There are many YT videos of biden rubbing his hands on the faces or chests of little girls or sticking their face in his crotch and of course sniffing their hair. He is a proven child molester but the right won’t say that.

    Trump called him “sleepy joe” but what kind of insult is that? Call him groper-joe or pedo-joe or dementia- joe. And it’s not President Biden, it’s Pedodent Biden.

    We saw the way dems made personal attacks on trump the last 4 years. It was no holds barred. But republicans won’t do that.

  421. noname27 says: • Website

    I was not referring to the false flag rent-a-mob at the White House. I was referring to the serious minded people of middle America, who have no one to lead them.

    And they don’t need ‘boys’, proud or otherwise, they need MEN who know what they’re about – and until these men make themselves known and take the situation by the scruff of its neck and run with it, middle America will remain rudderless and leaderless!

    This is why I do not see a civil war taking place in the USA, unless there comes a time when a man or men step up and take the lead and impose his/their will on the situation, as did the Austrian corporal in 1920’s Germany.

  422. Marty T says:

    We have no chance in an organized war. But we may have a chance in an aggressive guerrilla war.

  423. @obvious

    How dumb are you? Economies run on energy, the potential of which is measured in units such as calories and barrels. How many of those units do you think are produced in East St. Louis versus rural Texas, for instance?

  424. @Miro23

    I detect your post is in the spirit of reducing to the absurd. But what are the chances that you could get 10 percent of the population to even understand issues like Big Tech attempting to weaponize California arbitration law or the cost-benefit picture of major budgetary items, like developing a new strike fighter versus retrofit programs, much less call expert shots on them?

    These are but two of a thousand questions that might have a material effect on the lives of the average citizen.

    As Plato noted 2,500 years ago, democracy is the worst form of government, an observation that each passing year renders more prophetic.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  425. @anonymous

    Automated weapons look fun, like Bruce Willis’ rig in The Jackal. I’m not sure how remote-mounted machine cannons jibe with the 2A though.

    As for the amendment, its blessing is the provision of firepower adequate to check tyranny.

  426. Miro23 says:
    @Negrolphin Pool

    But what are the chances that you could get 10 percent of the population to even understand issues like Big Tech attempting to weaponize California arbitration law or the cost-benefit picture of major budgetary items, like developing a new strike fighter versus retrofit programs, much less call expert shots on them?

    You could decide what people can deal with and what they can’t. For example they could get well prepared pro/con research on the total size of the “defence” budget and spending relative to other countries and efficiency benchmarks. That would be enough to see that there’s a big problem (at a higher level) and a national vote county/ state could well cut defense spending in half.

    The point is, that in a true Democracy, the public decide on the size of a defense budget, not the ZioGlob deep state.

  427. TG says:

    I hear you, but again, even secession of a single American state would require organization and communication that is simply lacking. Also, even RELATIVELY less densely populated states like Alabama and Missouri etc., still have so many people that I can’t see how they could function without global supply chains. It’s not 1900 any more.

    But on that note: there is one example of white secession that never gets mentioned, and that’s Haiti. OK, Haiti had the only successful slave revolt in history, so kudos for that! (Spartacus, you were a wimp). But, war is one thing, peace another. Post-freedom Haiti sucked, and the whites (yeah really, ‘hispanics’ are white) themselves revolted and carved out the Dominican Republic from the Island of Hispaniola. Even today, the Dominicans maintain really brutal border security controls to prevent Haitians from escaping their crappy half of the island.

    Funny how whenever a hurricane hits the Caribbean, we hear about all those poor Haitians being battered by the weather and we just HAVE to grant them amnesty – but the Dominicans are on the same island and somehow they don’t fall apart???!!!

    Granted, the Dominican Republic is not Switzerland – among other things the homicide rate is really high – but it is so much better than Haiti that it’s not even close. So yeah, there are examples of white ‘secession’. I just don’t see how it can happen here.

    • Replies: @E_Perez
  428. E_Perez says:

    there is one example of white secession that never gets mentioned, and that’s Haiti.

    With so much historical ignorance, it is difficult how to start, perhaps you should get some basis, reading the thesis of Stoddard.

    The whites of (French) St. Domingue (today’s Haiti) never ‘seceded’ to the Hispanic part of the island, but were simply butchered by their slaves, to which your ‘kudos’ are addressed.

    The Spanish part (Santo Domingo) was always separate from the the French part and, yes, the blacks, after butchering the French (and the big Napoleon was completely impotent to prevent this disaster) were unable to maintain the huge infrastructure left by the French.

    St. Domingue/Haiti once was – with with Cuba and Argentina – the richest part of Latin America. Some generations of black rule were sufficient to make it the poorest shithole of the continent.

    But this is not news.
    After the black take-over of SA, this rich country is in decline and after the collapse of the US, the affirmative action blacks will not be able to provide basic services…

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