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The virus is real. It is a danger to people with poor immune systems and to those with co-morbidities. People of any age could have impaired immune systems and serious illnesses. However, immune and health problems are more associated with the elderly as they have had a lifetime to engage in bad habits and non-healthy living. The vast majority of those whose deaths were attributed to Covid had co-morbidities.

Even so, the elderly stricken with Covid still had a high survival rate of about 95 percent. Everyone else had a 98 or 99 percent survival rate. It is impossible to have precise numbers because the data is skewed to maximize Covid deaths. Hospitals were given economic incentives to report all deaths as Covid deaths as long as the person had Covid or a positive PCR test. Allegedly, a person who died in a motorcycle crash was listed as a Covid death because he had a positive PCR test.

The real question is whether the people who reportedly had Covid died from it, or from the lack of treatment, or the wrong treatment. Initially, hospitalized Covid patients were put on ventilators and were killed by the ventilators until a doctor figured out that the breathing problem had a different cause than what they assumed and issued a warning. Other Covid deaths were due to the lack of treatment.

Remember, the assumption was that there were no treatments, thus the emphasis on developing a vaccine, but there were two highly successful, safe, and inexpensive treatments based on HCQ and Ivermectin. These treatments stood in the way of emergency permission to use untested and unapproved vaccines and were demonized for the sake of Big Pharma vaccine profits. So if you had Covid, they sent you home untreated until you got so bad that you had to be hospitalized, and then they killed you with ventilators.

In other words, we do not really know if anyone died from Covid itself.

If you care to understand what a total failure the entirety of the world’s health authorities have been in dealing with the “Covid pandemic” consider that in malaria-infested African countries there is no Covid, no masks, no lockdowns. Why is this? The answer is that in malaria-infested countries people take a HCQ pill one a week.

Consider Tanzania, for example. The entire population of Tanzania—59,734,218 people— is considered at risk for malaria, with 93% of the population living in malaria transmission areas. Consequently, the population takes HCQ once a week as a preventative against malaria. HCQ is also a preventative and a cure for Covid. In all of Tanzania over the period from January 3, 2020 to July 14, 2021, there are only 509 reported cases of Covid and 21 reported deaths. Almost all occurred in April 2020. https://covid19.who.int/region/afro/country/tz

As the Covid test is unreliable and known to produce false positives and as anyone who dies who has a positive test has his death reported as a Covid death, we don’t actually know if there is a single case or a single death from Covid in Tanzania.

The Covid case numbers were greatly inflated by the PCR test. It is now understood that at the high rate of cycles at which the test was run it produces a false positive rate as high as 97 percent. Many and perhaps most of the mild cases and cases without symptoms were not really Covid infections. I have seen no explanation of why the test was run at a cycle rate known to invalidate the test. The question remains if it was done on purpose to generate fear and support for an experimental and untested vaccine.

When the medical establishment tells you that the vaccine is safe, they do not know that, because it is an untested vaccine being used on an emergency basis. In fact, the vaccine is being tested on the world population. The Covid shot is called a vaccine, but in reality it is technology-based and seems to function like an operating system. Normally, vaccines are made from dead or live virus. The Covid “vaccine” is not.

Indeed, we have learned that the vaccine is not safe for large numbers of people, especially the young who are not endangered by the virus itself. Some countries have abandoned use of some of the vaccines because of blood clots. For example, the Danish health authority has dropped the use of the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines because of their association with blood clots. https://www.globalresearch.ca/denmark-ditches-jj-covid-vaccine-says-benefits-do-not-outweigh-risk-blood-clots/5744314

Health authorities are issuing new warnings due to heart inflammation problems and Guillain-Barre autoimmune disorders. https://www.globalresearch.ca/fda-add-warning-jj-vaccine-serious-rare-autoimmune-disorder/5749999

https://www.axios.com/jj-vaccine-fda-warning-guillain-barre-408bb913-1d78-4096-acdc-7114186c0d75.html

Prominent scientist calls for a halt to Covid vaccination. https://www.globalresearch.ca/halt-covid-vaccine-prominent-scientist-tells-cdc/5744828

It is important to understand that as all the vaccines are based on the same memory RNA technology, they all have the same problems. The medical bureaucrats haven’t yet admitted this, but it is the fact.

Public health authorities, having rushed to give emergency usage to the vaccines, pretend that the adverse effects they are now warning about are “rare.” But these effects are not rare. We now have reports that for all but the elderly the vaccine can be more dangerous than Covid. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/07/13/17503-dead-1-7-million-injured-50-serious-reported-in-european-unions-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-shots/

See also: https://www.globalresearch.ca/worst-side-effect-ever-heart-inflammation-happening-world-due-blood-clotting-caused-covid-19-vaccines/5749988

A new variant, Delta, has appeared, or is claimed to have appeared, that is being used to renew the fear and herd the unvaccinated into vaccination. Public authorities and presstitute shills are making much of the Delta variant despite the fact that it has not resulted to date in the serious illness and death associated with Covid. We are told that the vaccine protects against the Delta variant too, but Big Pharma is blowing the trumpet for a booster vaccine, so far not approved by Big Pharma’s public health partners at NIH, CDC, and FDA.

ORDER IT NOW

There are questions whether the Delta variant, if it actually exists, is a mutation, or a consequence of the vaccine itself, or just the flu, which, as you know, has disappeared, causing some to conclude that Covid is just the flu. We cannot make any headway in finding out and evaluating the real situation because public debate even among scientists is blocked. Scientists and medical professionals whose findings differ from the official narrative are censored and deplatformed.

There are reports that of the 146,000 reported cases of the Delta variant in the UK, 50 percent of those said to be infected are vaccinated people. https://www.globalresearch.ca/half-all-covid-variant-deaths-occurring-people-already-vaccinated/5749904 Reports, such as this one, which are outside the narrative remain outside and are not part of the news.

Not only are there reports that the vaccine does not protect you, there are credible reports that the vaccine harms you. The British counterpart to the American VAERS, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, is the Yellow Card system operated by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). Researchers at the Evidence-based Medicine Consultancy (EbMC) have concluded that the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines are “unsafe for humans” based on adverse event reports. The research group’s director, Dr. Tess Lawrie, describing the research findings wrote: “The scope of morbidity is striking, evidencing a lot of incidents and what amounts to a large number of ill.” https://www.globalresearch.ca/uk-research-group-coronavirus-vaccine-unsafe-humans-due-adverse-events/5749913

Mike Whitney summarizing the evidence notes that the spike protein in the “vaccine” itself is a deadly pathogen. https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-killer-in-the-bloodstream-the-spike-protein/5747572

Tony Fauci, Big Pharma, and the presstitutes brainwash the public that these skeptics are tinfoil hat kooks who need to be shutdown. So many distinguished independent scientists and medical research groups have been deplatformed for allegedly spreading disinformation that the charges against them are not credible. Every scientist and doctor except those associated with Big Pharma cannot be wrong.

To recap at this point: the alleged “pandemic” was created by a test that produces false positives, thus greatly exaggerating the infection rate. The deaths were created by incorrect treatment, the absence of treatment, and by counting all deaths as Covid deaths.

The fear that was intentionally hyped was used to get gullible and fearful people to accept unapproved “vaccines” that are proving to be as dangerous or more so than the Covid virus.

The dire situation cannot be corrected, because Big Pharma and its associated health authorities, hired scientists, indoctrinated medical personnel, and presstitutes will not permit any questioning of the narrative.

For example, vaccine related deaths are not being autopsied in order to keep the deaths from being identified with the vaccine and in order to prevent knowledge of how the vaccine attacks the human body. https://www.globalresearch.ca/post-covid-vaccine-deaths-not-being-autopsied-why/5749994 Indeed, the narrative, despite the VAERS and Yellow Card data, does not acknowledge vaccine-related deaths except as “very rare.” By ignoring the mounting evidence, Fauci, CDC, FDA and the media whores can maintain the fiction that the vaccines do more good than harm. Note that even if this claim were true, it is a very weak argument. It is a claim that its is OK to endanger some people as long as you save more.

Such a weak argument cannot be used to justify mandated vaccination or pressures to accept vaccination. The CNN presstitutes have their own “medical analyst,” Dr. Jonathan Reiner, on TV declaring it is time to mandate coronavirus vaccination for all Americans. https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-cnn-doctor-says-time-start-mandating-covid-vaccines/5749996

The French President Macron is instituting a program of mandated vaccination and Vaccine passports. https://www.rt.com/news/529029-france-vaccine-passports-macron/

The current occupant of the White House wants agents sent door-to-door to get all Americans vaccinated.

Why these totalitarian measures for a virus that accumulating evidence suggests might be less dangerous than the vaccine? What is going on here? How can women have rights over their own bodies and be forced to be vaccinated? Is mass vaccination followed by booster shots for endless “variants” a way to guarantee forever Big Pharma profits? Is the purpose of mandated vaccination, lockdowns, and masks to bring individual autonomy to an end? Is the purpose to set plagues among us that elites use to assume all power? Is it population control? Or is it about wiring us up as a control node on the control grid? https://www.globalresearch.ca/mrna-covid-vaccine-not-vaccine/5734464

Why these measures when the HCQ and Ivermectin cures are available and when the deaths and cases claimed for Covid were exaggerated in order to increase fear?

Why are dissenting scientists and medical professionals silenced?

The entire “pandemic” has been conducted outside the realm of evidence. That should tell you that very much is wrong with the narrative.

NOW WE COME TO THE CRUX OF THE MATTER

Having comprehended the information in my article, you are aware that you have been manipulated into compliance with a secret agenda. You are now prepared to face powerful and conclusive documented evidence presented by Dr. David Martin that Covid was an intentional release, not a leak from a lab or a natural virus from bats.

This aspect of the story is the most disturbing of all. The Covid virus was created in America and patented in 2002. NIH and US Armed Services were in on the patent: https://odysee.com/@vaccines-covid-nwo:3/JgxEMA02opvp:6 At the 9-10 minute mark: “We (US) made SARS and we patented it on April 19 2002.”

All of the elements of Covid were patented in 73 patents prior to the outbreak of the alleged pandemic, that is, prior to acknowledged awareness of the virus.

Go to the 29-30 minute point and listen to the quote: “We need to increase public understanding of the need for medical countermeasures such as a pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics will follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of the process.” This was said by the man whose coronavirus gain of function research was financed by Fauci at NIH.

Note also that UNC, NIAID, and Moderna began making the spike protein “vaccine” prior to the outbreak of the pandemic.

The documented information in this video interview makes it clear that Covid was an intentional release serving agendas arrayed against public health and civil liberty. https://odysee.com/@vaccines-covid-nwo:3/JgxEMA02opvp:6

factcheck.org takes exception to Dr. Martin’s statements. But fact check websites are not trustworthy.

When fact check websites claim they check facts, what they mean is that they check whether statements are in compliance with the existing narrative. If the statements contradict or take issue with the official narrative, the statements are ruled to be wrong or conspiracy theories.

In other words, the standard of whether a statement is correct is whether it complies with the existing narrative.

Fact checkers never check the official narrative.

This means that fact checkers are merely enforcers of the narrative.

ORDER IT NOW

Dr. Martin’s reading and presentation of the 73 patents on Covid that were taken out by US government agencies and pharmaceutical companies long in advance of the Covid outbreak (or release) could be erroneous. However, that has to be decided by public debate by independent experts and not by narrative enforcers.

Update:

Over time malaria has developed some resistance to HCQ, and an alternative therapy is the current recommendation. However, Malaria’s resistance to HCQ has not resulted in a complete transition to artemisinin-based combination therapies. “CQ usage has continued for many years after the switch in national policies for the treatment of P.f.” P.f. stands for Plasmodium falciparum malaria —https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3820326/

The study concludes: “The spatial trend of CQ use reduction in African countries post policy change is illustrated in Figure S6. There are countries in East and West Africa with slow and fast reduction of CQ use, i.e., there is no obvious spatial pattern in the reduction of CQ use.”

HCQ use has persisted because the replacement therapy (ACT) cost 25 times more: In Africa only a handful of countries with P. vivax recommend CQ. “However, CQ usage has persisted for many years after policy change. Studies have shown that between 40% and 60% of those who seek treatment of fever in malaria-endemic countries access drugs in the private sector, where CQ and SP (an earlier HCQ replacement) are up to 25 times less expensive than an ACT. In fact, this price differential was a primary motivation for the formation of the Affordable Medicines Facility—malaria (AMFm), a program designed to address this disparity. Furthermore, despite treatment guidelines that recommend ACTs, SP and CQ remain registered in many countries and because they are authorized to move through the marketplace, are highly available.”

As a malaria preventative, the artemisinin-based therapies could have similar properties to HCQ and thereby provide similar protection against Covid as HCQ.

The fact remains that according to the World Health Organization, over the entire length of the Covid pandemic Tanzania has only 509 cases and 21 deaths attributed to Covid. Tanzania’s population is nearly 60,000,000, which means that Covid is a non-existent problem for Tanzania.

Correction: I say all Covid vaccines are mRNA technology and have the same problems. In fact, what I should have written is that there are mRNA vaccines and vector vaccines and both work by delivering the Spike protein. Therefore, they all have the same problem.

(Republished from PaulCraigRoberts.org by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Excellent and informative article, Dr. Roberts. We are facing a totalitarianism more ominous than the communist revolution in 1917 Russia. I’m glad to see that comments are permitted for this one.

  2. An excellent summary, sir. These people have perpetrated a great evil and in a just world the tumbrels would be rolling.

  3. This is a good summation of the deception in place. We are seeing in Europe, as noted elsewhere on GR, that the precedents of isolation and destruction of small businesses will be carried over to the green agenda, as tyranny is layered on tyranny in the name of dubious and unproven science characterized by wildly inaccurate computer climate projection models generated by the agenda driven UN IPCC. As we progress into the Grand Solar Minimum and and the jet stream becomes a roller coaster alternately plunging into the lower latitudes and rising toward the arctic, bringing extreme cold in some places and unusual heat in others, the captive media will report only the hot spots, which supports the narrative that a harmless and essential trace gas is driving climate, overcoming the power of the cooling sun to burn us up and raise sea levels catastrophically. However, history shows that the real danger to civilization is cold. As Europe adds energy restrictions to the menu of its destruction, millions will die due to lack of heat. To those driving the agenda, such deaths are a feature, not a bug, of the plan to take control of the entire Earth and to entrench themselves as permanent rulers of an enslaved human race. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

  4. Kali says:

    Many thanks, Mr Roberts. Your efforts here, and in all of your articles are deeply appreciated.

    As is the fact that you have opened commenting on this one.

    Your bravery and courage are noteworthy.

    Best regards,
    Kali.

    • Agree: moi
    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    , @tyrone
  5. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:

    Very good article Mr. Roberts and thank you for opening up the comments. Hopefully the replies in this thread won’t leave you to regret that decision!

    Covid was an intentional release, not a leak from a lab or a natural virus from bats.

    This conclusion coincides with the evidence Ron has put forth that the outbreak may have been intentional, however it sounds like instead of the virus being released in Wuhan as a bioweapon it was actually released as a pretext/catalyst for large scale distribution of these patented vaccines.

    Very hard to say one way or another, but one thing we can hopefully all agree on – the concerted effort to shutdown any discussion on the topic is mighty suspicious! It seems that the Anti-Vaxx label is increasingly being used in the same fashion that anti-Semite is used to silence honest debate.

    • Agree: follyofwar, sulu, Miro23
  6. Readers interested in the (in)efficacy of the Pfizer product for the Delta variant should also peruse Gilad Atzmon’s piece recently published here about reported statistics in Israel.

    • Agree: Mustapha Mond
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @JimDandy
  7. JC99 says:

    Excellent article that addresses many of the questions and common sense observations with this issue. The obvious manipulation by the main stream media is apparent and explains the censorship going on everywhere. Follow the money!

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
    , @MLK
  8. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    A highly informative article that raises important questions. Congratulations to Ron Unz for publishing what so clearly negates his own panic-mongering nonsense about Covid.

    A minor correction: It is “messenger RNA,” not “memory RNA”; the function of which is to convey information from the genome to the proteome: the former encoded as a sequence of nucleotides in DNA, the latter manifest as a sequence of amino acids in protein.

    Concerning the purpose of the worldwide, top-down drive to vaccinate everyone, it may be important to consider the findings of a British Columbia country doctor, whose research indicates that Covid vaccine induces bloodclots in heart microcapillaries that may greatly shorten the lives of the vaccinated — an outcome greatly to be desired by our rulers, so it would appear.

  9. Anonymous[280] • Disclaimer says:

    How do you know the virus is real? What proof do you have?

  10. It appears to me that as the vaccine roll out reaches 5-15% of a population, some new variant miraculously appear. South Africa, Peru, Russia and now California with the Epsilon variant. And soon they will stop identifying the countries where this occur. I do not have enough data to do that analysis.

    Also Uganda would have been a more credible reference country, but since it is Tanzania’s neighbour, the same conditions apply. I live in Uganda and I had covid and I treated myself over the counter with Ivermectin. No problem. After effects only lasted for 3 weeks.

    • Thanks: The Real World
  11. The easiest “proof” covid is a hoax is governments being well-prepared to handle it.

    During a real crisis that never happens.

  12. @follyofwar

    The totalitarianism is spreading. Putin, despite promises, is now implementing mandatory jabs and QR codes. It looks increasingly like the mark of the beast is beginning to spread over the whole Earth.

  13. @Greta Handel

    “Flu” vaccines are next to useless. “Seasonal” flu vaccines have an efficacy rate between 18% and 42%, depending on the year. meaning that, at best, it only helps 42 of every 100 vaccinated. It would seem to me that, given a fatality rate of less than 1%, no vaccine is needed.

    • Replies: @Krizz
  14. Great article!

    Few additional results and aspects of the COVID-19 plandemic assault on humanity:

    Among the negative results: Destruction of countless small businesses and increased financial hardship for countless millions; the simultaneous strengthening of large corporate interests, and massive oligarchic concentration of wealth, and thus increased influence and power.

    Degrading ‘slave training’ for countless millions, habituating large populations to cessation of common activities, including school and church, and derogating basic human rights and Constitutional – or primary – laws on behalf of the scamdemic agendas.

    Enforcing fear and dishonesty based, nonsensical or harmful mask, social distancing, and tracing, mandates, implementing in many countries a kind of medical martial law, with widespread de facto house arrest.

    Broad undermining of food production, and increased food insecurity.

    Rapid implementation of 5G related technology during the fake pandemic.

    Less clear are the ultimate results of the COVID crime against humanity. So many institutions have been ever more starkly revealed as utterly corrupt or deeply dysfunctional. Countless millions of people pushed out of their comfort zone. For countless millions, politicians, mass media, and medical authorities have been definitively exposed as ignorant or vile charlatans.

    Millions will resist, and counterattack in some way or other.

    And the ‘globalists’ world government wet dream has been undermined, and independent and sovereign localities seem much more sensible.

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
  15. R.C. says:

    Excellent Job Dr. Roberts.
    R.C.

    • Agree: tyrone
  16. @Eddy Minimum

    What do you think causes the jetstream disturbance? The melting or Arctic summer sea ice, the albedo flip there, the increased high latitude warming, and the decrease in the temperature gradient between frigid and torrid zones, that’s what. A Grand Solar Minimum has NOTHING to do with it. The rest is the usual pig ignorant gibberish. Humanity has never experience hot-house Earth conditions before. Cold is bad, but heat and humidity are far worse. Wake the fuck up!

  17. JasonT says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    “Humanity has never experience hot-house Earth conditions before.”

    Most of the Jurassic period was 4-5 C higher in temperature than now, and no humans! Anthropogenic?

  18. Notamason says:

    A big Thank You for you Doctor. It all makes sense as to the origins of this false episode.

  19. @CanSpeccy

    …an outcome greatly to be desired by our rulers, so it would appear.

    Try to think of it this way…

    [MORE]

    The Davos’ view of The Great Reset and Build Back Better is totally different from how they want us to perceive these same events.

    They tell us that The Great Reset is a reset of the financial and political system and that Build Back Better is a new path away from fossil fuels into a new Green Energy (electric) paradigm.

    But, they don’t see it exactly the same way they present it to us. To them The Great Reset is the equivalent of The Great Flood (Noah) where all of pre-flood humanity was wiped off the face of the Earth except for Noah’s family. Or, in this case the elites.

    And, Build Back Better is a where they create a new post-flood form of humans through genomic engineering that suits their needs. Whatever that entails. Possibly a society closely resembling that of Communist China but even more subserviant?

    But, of course in order to usher in their Brave New World they need to rid the Earth of all the old notions of individualism. A good analogy to this type of thinking is the movie Rollerball. Just watched it again last night it covered the basics of what the Davos cabalists are thinking.

    We need to wake up to the fact that these people have declared war on us.

    We therefore need to declare war on them. If their intent is to drive us into the abyss we need to make sure we drag them along with us. Either that, or defeat them on the field of battle.

    They have no real power. They are not gods. They can’t stop the sun from rising or the Earth from spinning. They can’t levitate, walk on water, or travel through space without spaceships. They can’t continue to exist without food, water, or oxygen anymore than the rest of us. Drop them in the middle of Death Valley at the hottest time of the year without water, a map, a compass, and any form of transportation and watch them shrivel up and die. Or leave them on the summit of Mt. Everest without winter clothing, a tent, and oxygen they will die from frostbite just like anyone else. Since they’re all white they wouldn’t survive a night on their own in certain sections of Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, or South Africa.

    They’re all a bunch of pampered pussies that couldn’t fight their way our of a wet paper bag if needed. They’re the epitome of soy/pajama boys. Didn’t anybody bother to take a look at what they looked like up at the resort in Sun Valley. They certainly didn’t look like warriors. They looked like effeminate males. They need to hire real men with guns to protect them from the rest of us.

    Sure, they can pay others to do their bidding. But, without that money they’re just as powerless as everyone else. In fact, even with that money they’re powerless because they’re incapable of doing anything on their own.

  20. SafeNow says:

    “The con rapist is a planful, resourceful social actor. He is aware that the successful execution of his plan depends upon isolating a victim outside the reaches of social support or bystander intervention. “

    Quote is from:
    “The Social camouflage and Everyday Masks of the Con-Style Serial Rapist”
    Journal of Qualitative Criminality, 2019
    https://www.qualitativecriminology.com/pub/v7i3p2/release/1

    The U.S. Left embraces “the con style”in many ways. The style of the snake-oil salesman. Fauci. Cuomo. Avenatti. If bland-speaking elite academics had had the courage to come forward, would they have been a match for the con style?

    • Thanks: Thomasina
    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @Badger Down
  21. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    … may greatly shorten the lives of the vaccinated — an outcome greatly to be desired by our rulers, so it would appear.

    As amusing as it is to imagine cartoon villains gleefully anticipating our demise, they probably can’t take credit for everything that goes wrong.

    Medicines produced by the pharmaceutical industry are riddled with unintended and undesirable side effects. What makes vaccines any different?

  22. @follyofwar

    Yes, many thanks for this, Dr. Roberts.

    This article of yours needs to be very widely read. With your top credentials it will have a significant impact.

  23. @JC99

    Here in Australia we have a political mischief-making organization called GetUp!

    With all the lockdowns we’ve been having, for them to trumpet Ivermectin … a real sledgehammer in their hands.

    Will they swing it? Crush Scott Morrison with a single blow?

    Nah. Can’t have the people getting Ivermectin, can we, GetUp? Wonderfully silent you’ve been on the subject, and will be.

  24. the first sentence is misinfo supreme…..the virus is fiction merely the annual flu rebranded. the bioweapon is the injection for the fake virus…….get it together.

  25. @Anonymous

    What makes vaccines any different?

    Currently, there are no mandates to take any pharmaceutical medicines (therapies) no matter the state of one’s mental or physical health.

    This is not true for many vaccines. From childbirth children are mandated to be inoculated with vaccines with few exceptions. The pharmaceutical industry is developing many more vaccines and wants to mandate that all these new vaccines be administered to both children and adults with no exemptions.

    As many patents for pharmaceutical drugs expire so do the huge profits for Big Pharma. Vaccines are to be the newest and biggest money makers for Big Pharma going forward. The use of mRNA vaccines make it easy for Big Pharma to patent the different configurations of RNA nucleotides and continue the lucrative money spigot.

    And, the fact that they have been given sovereign immunity from all adverse events to their vaccines as opposed to the other therapies (drugs) they develop. That means they can kill or harm you without any repercussions with their so called toxic vaccines.

  26. @Anonymous

    Paul Craig Roberts says the virus is real.

    I have ever questioned or denied this. I had Covid myself in January 2020.

    Coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s.

    Every year during the cold and flu season, about 15% of elderly people who get sick have some form of coronavirus in their lungs. In extreme cases this can lead to terminal pneumonia.

    What I question is the “pandemic,” and the supposedly full hospitals, and all the media and CDC / WHO / Fauci claims about Covid death statistics. To me it’s all absurd. To me there is no “pandemic.”

    When I say I do not believe in the “pandemic,” people flame me, because people falsely think that if I agree that a virus exists, then I must also agree than a “pandemic” exists.

    Not so.

  27. aandrews says:

    Excellent article. This is valuable information. I intend to sprinkle the link around as I wander the Net. I wonder if the entire population was given a Covid-19 PCR test, if the middle ninetieth-percentile wouldn’t produce a positive result, that, for the most part, it’s killed whoever was going to succumb to it.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  28. Richard B says:
    @Tsar Nicholas

    Putin, despite promises, is now implementing mandatory jabs and QR codes.

    Didn’t know that. First time hearing it. If so, what a shame.

    It looks increasingly like the mark of the beast is beginning to spread over the whole Earth.

    Hope not. But could be. Either way, it doesn’t look good.

    • Replies: @Bugey libre
  29. anon[308] • Disclaimer says:

    The U.S.S.R. was evil, but not this evil. Perhaps they are “Malthusians in a hurry” instead of “Liberals in a hurry”. They don’t fear God, obviously.

    • Replies: @Spender_CGB
  30. frankie p says:
    @CanSpeccy

    A minor correction: It is “messenger RNA,” not “memory RNA

    Might as well pile on.

    PCR should fact check his own work with scientists. Even an interested layman like myself knows that this is inaccurate:

    “It is important to understand that as all the vaccines are based on the same memory RNA technology, they all have the same problems.”

    The Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are mRNA vaccines, but AZ, Sputnik, and J&J are virus vector recombinant DNA vaccines. They may have SOME similar problems as the mRNA variety, but the mechanism is completely different.

    I learned something new from this article. I didn’t know that Tanzania and other African countries used HCQ as a prophylactic against malaria. This reminds me of the paper published by Chinese doctors in Wuhan during the worst of the outbreak there. This was before they had built dedicated covid hospitals, so almost all patients in the hospitals were getting infected and sick. These doctors were surprised to find that not one of over 20 lupus patients came down with covid. Lupus treatment involves constant HCQ use.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @tyrone
    , @Marylou
    , @HCQ
  31. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    You have a neighbour, a Kiwi doctor name Dr. Sam Bailey, doing fantastic work exposing the FACTS:

    One of her many gems explaining a “virus”.

    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/the-truth-about-virus-isolation-🤫:f?

  32. @A little boy in the crowd

    Coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s.

    How can you be sure? Do you have any proof because if you dig a little deeper, you will find what they claim as an isolated virus is in fact NOT isolated.

    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/covid-19-shots,-cancer-and-hiv:c

    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Odysee-Hunting-Viruses-With-Andy-Kaufmann-1-comp:7

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  33. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:

    . . . kinda surprised Ron Unz didn’t censor this article.

  34. @A little boy in the crowd

    I agree with everything you said.

    Although, I had no clue at the time and the Doc made no suggestion of it, I believe I may have had Covid starting the first week of Feb 2020. It was a simply horrendous and debilitating illness — far worse than the flu and with some bizarre symptoms in addition to the expected respiratory.

    I was delirious for a week and minimally lucid for the second week. I’ve never had anything like that and, unfortunately, had some continued symptoms for the next 7 months. I was beginning to think I’d always have periodic and substantial waves of blinding fatigue and a constant, deep, broken-glass cough but, whew, by Oct 2020 I realized it had been gone for a few weeks. So, some of my symptoms lasted til Sept 2020! What flu does that?!

    So, YES, I believe there is an engineered, unique virus AND that the “pandemic” was primarily manufactured for illicit purposes. I find it rather amazing that some people have trouble computing that it can be both, as you and I assert.

    Author Roberts provides an excellent summary of Covid-related events. Bravo…

    • Thanks: Alfred, John Q Duped
    • Replies: @Nancy
    , @Marylou
    , @T.Rebon
  35. Ktulu says:

    If indeed the vaccines are ineffective at preventing infection by variants, and are themselves in many cases unwarranted risks (all these things I do believe) why then are no countries refusing vaccination?

    I suppose this question is somewhat incorrectly founded, because sinovac is actually a dead virus, but that still leaves in question why for instance Russia is fine with using viral vector vaccines, even if they are domestically produced, and why third world countries are so desparate to get any vaccines. Further, why is israel using mrna vaccines? You would think with the connections of their government and intelligence services and ongoing genocide of palestine underpinned by settler fertility that they would be using less potentially dangerous vaccines like dead virus or viral segments.

    Every anti-vax article has the same hair on fire premise thag the world is over because we are being forced to take experiemental vaccines, and indeed this is a terrible occurence which plainly demonstrates the falsity of the Nuremburg code and the lies of the jewish western order, but the reality is most westerners are pathetic subhuman meat bags who would never dare think outside the television or comepletely psychotic failures (not entirely of their own fault) incapable of organizing an effective resistance to the powers that be. We are going to see most of the population be vaccinated, we are going to see social ostracism of those who do not vaccinate, some vaccinated people seem to be fine and may continue to be, others drop dead in 15 minutes.

    What we need isnt more hair on fire screeching that what is going on is unprecedented and incredibly immoral, we already know that. What we need is nuance. For instance, there are some vaccines which may soon be approved in America based on viral segments and dead virus. Are those to be trusted? Is a dead virus injection a safe way to circumvent to bio-totalitarians? If vaccines train the virus to be more deadly is there any call in the international community to stop playing with the natual biology of pandemics and accept widespread infection in herd immunity, or are we going to keep screaming hopelessly into the ether truths nobody will accept or can act on?

    • Thanks: Emslander
    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Sisifo
    , @HVM
  36. @Tsar Nicholas

    the Vineyard of the Saker have been so committed to Vlad Putin what do they have to say now that Putin’s real colours have appeared in the open?

    time to go there to see…..

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-rejects-mandatory-covid-jabs-as-russia-sees-record-deaths/ar-AALCkrt

    as a matter of fact this is what I have found instead

    • Agree: Tsar Nicholas
  37. bayviking says:

    First I would like to thank PCR and Unz for opening up discussion on this topic, a rarity with this once very important voice for truth and human ethics., whose growing paranoia has some justification, if sometimes overblown. I offer the following additional points to this discussion

    Trump had no patience for government rules or bureaucracy and “fast tracked” vaccines, even as he downplayed those risks. On any given day, true to form, he might blame China, or deny that Covid-19 was anything worse than the flue. That is certainly true for many people that tested positive.

    All drugs, surgeries and treatments for health problems incur risk. Normal CDC testing evaluates those risks against the benefits to approve or disapprove a procedure, vaccine or drug. It was Trump’s idea to circumvent these practices and his followers that resist vaccination more often. As far as I know Trump was never vaccinated, even though he tested positive at one point.

    Bio-weapons labs are putting the human population at grave risk. The 1918 pandemic was traced to a Rockefeller Research facility. Post 9-11 Anthrax came from a US lab. Some believe lyme diease epidemic also originated in a US lab. There are incurable smallpox variants stored in these labs. Like nuclear weapons manufacturing, they need to be shut down, by international treaty, for the sake of mankind. Otherwise these problems will get worse and worse.

    Undertakers in various parts of the world have been overwhelmed by Covid-19, leading to mass graves in parts of the world, especially those targeted for sanctions by the USA, which denies medical supplies to those in need. Maybe all the news we received is made up in a studio, but I doubt it. It might have been a deliberate government weapon, but far more likely an unfortunate, unnecessary accident and even possibly a mutated natural bat virus first identified in 2012. Only, honest transparency, a rarity in modern “democratic” life, can resolve this question.

    The only treatments for new pandemics require strict testing, tracing and lock-downs. Effective, but intrusive. Contrary to what right wing zealots claim, masks, though imperfect, help reduce infection. But isolation of known infections is the most effective treatment and countries which practiced these measures quickly recovered. There was little if any difference between outcomes in cooperative and uncooperative States. Consistent, national policies are required and regions with high air traffic are more vulnerable. These practices are kinda like tyranny, yet the only effective tools available until Trump’s vaccines came along.

    If its all fake, to promote fear, it involves every government in the world, including countries with a better track record of transparency than the USA, like Scandinavia. While all Governments seek to portray themselves in the most positive light possible, and there is plenty of sordid human history, it makes no sense to deliberately kill and treat people simultaneously, to promote fear and obedience. The tools available to the health care industry in these circumstances are very limited until vaccines are developed. Development of these vaccines in so many countries with starkly different political systems lead a rational person to conclude they are the only reasonable alternative, requiring cutting edge big science all over the world. That said, all new technology, comes with unknown risks, that can take time to understand. While many companies seek to profit by covering up risks, that is not a government inspired grand conspiracy. Thalidomide was a nastier example, which led to better testing practices. Our government tests to define and reduce those risks. Trump cut that red tape, which increased risks.

    • Thanks: Emslander
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Emslander
  38. When a friend who had recently been vaxxed asked why I have not, I asked her if she knew how many people had already died coincidental to their vaxxes. When she said no, I showed her VAERS, which at the time showed more than four thousand. She seemed unfazed, so I asked her what an acceptable number if deaths caused by vaxxes might be, and she said that all vaxxes carry risks and four thousand seemed an acceptable tradeoff for the many millions who will be saved by the vaxxes. She had not experienced more than a bad headache, so the vaxxes couldn’t be all that harmful.

    Since we have no idea how many people will ultimately be harmed by these vaxxes, and even less idea how many might actually be helped, we are clearly dealing with people brainwashed by evidence-free medicine.

    Solipsism is being fueled by the MSM and our “leaders” because it serves their ends.

    • Agree: GMC, Bro43rd, sulu
    • Replies: @Rubicon
  39. It does not look good! It is a long way to Omega variant. (Much longer way than to Tiporelly.)
    It is always about money. This virus is exceptionally good milking cow with a long life.
    And how come there are still some chinese alive?

    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  40. The Russian regions are mandating vaccines but not Putin himself. the latest report I have found on where Putin stands is dated end of June.

    But the question that appears to me to be valid is why is Russian vaccinating its people at all given the perspective here by PCR. If PCR and Martin are correct, and they appear to be, then there is no need for vaccines at all

    There is need for Ivermectin and HCQ but not the box of vaccine choices offered by Big Pharma

    The next seemingly obvious development that occurred to me is that Big Pharma is a major problem in human existence that cannot be reconciled except with the elimination of Big Pharma, and the complete reorganization of how health handled around the world

    Big Pharma like all Big monopoly corporations collectively is the major social disease currently as they are cutting human society to suit their perpetuity not ours. Big Pharma is the most grave danger to the survival of humanity as a free evolving life form currently. Big Pharma and human freedom and democracy are incompatibilities… are not compatible

    And of course by extension the only interest and force in society that can effect the elimination of Big Pharma and all corporate monopolies, are the people in collective action in society, actually taking over ownership and management of their society and effecting the end of all monopolies

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Marylou
    , @cachaciero
  41. @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    They have no real power.

    Yes they do – the power of the Con-Man.

    And creepy Bill is the most successful Con-Man in the history of the human race.

    He learned the tricks of his trade building his shonky Microsoft empire. Creepy Bill learned from that experience jusy how easily humans are manipulated and herded, and he learned just how much he could get away with, flogging shonky products that never live up to their marketing hype and steamrolling any competition using every dirty trick imaginable.

    Creepy Bill learned that core principal of the successful Con-Man – make the lies big, repeat them often, and never back down.

    So being emboldened by that success, creepy Bill then spent some time getting into the vaccination game, sterilising millions of African women without their knowledge or consent and killing millions of others around the world with his dodgy but exccedingly profitable new “vaccines”.

    Now creepy Bill is going all in, working with the Davos crowd to con every nation into handing the planet over to him and his cohorts.

    And what do you know, our governments are all thrilled to be doing just that!

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @RestiveUs
  42. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Hi ANM, which state do you live in?
    “Will they swing it? Crush Scott Morrison with a single blow?

    Nah. Can’t have the people getting Ivermectin, can we, GetUp?”
    Crush Morrison with a single blow….. Oh, one can dream……!

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  43. onebornfree says: • Website
    @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    “We need to wake up to the fact that these people have declared war on us. We therefore need to declare war on them. ”

    Exactly.

    The big question is: given their current levels of indoctrination, will enough people ever be capable of understanding that “these people have declared war on us.” and mean to kill us all?

    I think not, which means that it is very unwise to waste one’s time hoping/waiting for sufficient numbers of wholly state-indoctrinated zombies to awaken from their slumber.

    So: “hope for the best, but prepare for the worst” is the best option for the already fully awakened individual, seems to me.

    Regards, onebornfree

  44. Dumbo says:

    The fact that Google, Facebook and all media outlets are not allowing any criticism and screaming that the mRNA vaccines are “95% effective” and “99% safe” is itself very suspicious, as no medicine is. Every post you make on Facebook about Covid issues is branded with “the vaccines are safe” / “alternative treatments are not safe”.

    As I said before, it’s like someone painting a sign “Come in, it’s safe!” in a white van next to school. No wonder so many people are suspicious or concerned.

    Personally, I don’t think that the vaccines are a “depopulation tool”. A lot of it is just the money. Perhaps they want a subscription model with yearly shots. “Moderna Prime”. “Pfizerflix”.

    But I am sure that their efficiency is limited, much lower than that they are saying, perhaps close to that of the flu vaccines. And since 50% of the current sick and even dead have been fully vaccinated, they don’t even stop transmission, making things such as “vaccine passports” useless – well, useless to stop transmission, but not for the real reasons they want it.

    I think the real thing they want, is not to use the vaccine to depopulate the world, the vaccine is more a red herring, what they want is total control: total knowledge of your movements, of what diseases and genetic information you have, who you met, etc. Besides, this is a big test for mRNA technology, which they want to use for a lot of stuff, not just vaccines. “The operating system of life”, as they call it. A great source of revenue, and also, of control, of our own genetic information.

    In the end, they want us all to be GMO cyborgs, controlling us both biologically and technologically (now, tracking apps on mobile phones, perhaps later microchips in our clothes or even under out skin).

    That’s what it is about, in my view.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Kumbaresu
  45. onebornfree says: • Website
    @bluestarfire

    “The first sentence is misinfo supreme…..the virus is fiction”

    Although I agree, (because apparently no sample of it to date has ever been fully lab-isolated), I think the whole issue unfortunately acts as a distraction , a side issue ( unless someone here can demonstrate otherwise).

    We could end up wasting our time arguing for ever and a day with people over the existence or non-existence of the virus – if anyone ends up reaching the same conclusion as us, all that means for that converted individual is that the “rabbit hole”, is even deeper than they had previously assumed. But so what? How would that change anything?

    Besides, most people assume that viruses in general exist, and that “therefore” this one “must” too.

    To me it’s no different from the never ending argument over whether the Twin Towers were demolished via nukes, energy weapons or dynamite- WTF difference does it make?, they were obviously deliberately brought down _somehow_ – the argument is a complete waste of one’s time, in other words.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: Kali
  46. Dumbo says:

    Another weird thing recently is many young people dying from “unknown causes”.

    A 33 year old left-wing female journalist, and pretty much an “anti-vaxxer”, has died two months after taking her second shot. Her last tweets were against “vaccine conspiracies”.

    Now, perhaps she died from other causes, but still, there have been many similar and weird cases recently for it all to be just a coincidence. And those are just relatively famous people – there are many who just die, and it doesn’t appear on the news.

    I guess, we will see.

    https://usdaynews.com/celebrities/celebrity-death/dawn-foster-death-cause/

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  47. Levtraro says:

    A couple of criticisms:

    It is important to understand that as all the vaccines are based on the same memory RNA technology, they all have the same problems. The medical bureaucrats haven’t yet admitted this, but it is the fact.

    This is wrong. Aztrazeneca’s is not mRNA, it is adenovirus-vector based, like Sputnik V.

    Public health authorities, having rushed to give emergency usage to the vaccines, pretend that the adverse effects they are now warning about are “rare.” But these effects are not rare. We now have reports that for all but the elderly the vaccine can be more dangerous than Covid. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/07/13/17503-dead-1-7-million-injured-50-serious-reported-in-european-unions-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-shots/

    This is wrong. You quote GlobalResearch instead of actually examining the database, which is open to examine by anyone with an internet connection. The database you are quoting is the Eudra Vigilance database:

    https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/research-development/pharmacovigilance/eudravigilance/access-eudravigilance-data

    This database does not contain info on deaths, only on suspected adverse side-effects of medicines approved by EMA and by particular EU countries, and death is not considered a side-effect, lol! So the 17+ thousand deaths figure seems to be completely made-up by the author of the GlobalResearch piece.

    Regarding mRNA vaccines approved by EMA, there are 284,433 reports of suspected side-effects for Pfizer-BioNTech (74% females, 71% between ages 18-64, most of them in Italy, France, Netherlands and Spain, most of them for minor and localized, nervous system, musculoskeletal-connective, and grastointestinal disorders), and 68,950 for Moderna (70% females, 70% between 18 and 64 years old, most of them in Italy, France, Netherlands and Spain, most of them for minor and localized, nervous system, musculosketal-connective, and grastointestinal disorders).

    So 1,7 million “injuries”, 800 thousand serious “injuries”?

    Please check your sources.

    To access the database, go here:

    https://www.adrreports.eu/en/index.html

    Click on the link provided for COVID in the box with NEW in red letters. Click Accept. Click on the “Suspected adverse drug reaction reports for Substances” tab on the right. Click on “C”. Scroll down to COVID-19 (there are four substances, corresponding to the four emergency-approval vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, Astrazeneca and Janssen).

  48. “I have survived Covid —-one slurp of Lysol and was fit as a fiddle!” and DT knows his dope…..

  49. @JasonT

    You wear your stupidity like a badge of honour. Jurassic conditions were caused by certain effects, and the Anthropocene climate destabilisation by human ones ie the forcing of greenhouse gases caused by human activities. Can you not see that the two occurrences are different, and therefore cannot be used one to refute the other?

  50. @A little boy in the crowd

    Hospitals are meant to be full, otherwise resources are being wasted. With ‘elective’ surgery waiting lists long and growing and the diseases of wretched ‘lifestyles’ ever growing, and empty bed is an outrage.

  51. As noted on 4chan /pol/ channelling a post by Scottish lady Aangirfan

    3 Covid / Vax Sceptic National Presidents DEAD

    – Haiti’s Moïse rejected first vax shipments to his country in May – shot dead in July
    – Burundi’s Nkurunziza expelled WHO from his country – ‘heart attack’ a few weeks later
    – Tanzania’s Magufuli exposed ‘dirty game’ of covid testing via ‘positive’ swabs of fruit and goat – then dead from ‘heart complications’
    – Belarus’ Lukashenko called out bribery offers to induce him into covid & vax scams – big regime-change hit, forced into dependence on pro-vax Putin
    – Indonesia just mass-approved ivermectin – are they next?

    Britain and Israel are the leading vaxxed nations … now, majority of their escalating ‘covid dead’ are double-vaxxed, as Gilad Atzmon is noting here re Israel

    Israel Shamir and Ron Unz himself, both praise Vladimir Putin’s assertions that it is ‘rubbish’ that world governments conspire, & that ‘being vaccinated is not dangerous’ … kinda funny actually, top world leader assures that top world leaders aren’t colluding

    • Agree: Thim
    • Thanks: Sarah
  52. An excellent summary article by Dr. Roberts. The time has come to do something about it. First and foremost, understand that this global totalitarian agenda will not stop on its own. The only way to stop it is to visibly and permanently resist. Intermittent protests that already occurred in France, Britain, and Ireland have proven to be insufficient. So the only way forward is to initiate a permanent protest in all major cities, that can’t be ignored because it is in the face of everyone, especially government authorities.

    1. Organize a permanent protest at a busy spot in the city; the intent is to have millions join until lockdowns end;
    2. Schedule shifts of protesters; this ensures permanence of the protest, and is the basis for taking care of food and sanitation needs;
    3. Set up a perimeter defense ready with large strong shields, painted on the front with a cross or the alpha-omega of Constantine; if attacked by antifa, form a shield wall;
    4. Prepare signs that mock the totalitarians: ‘protest ends when the lockdown ends’, ‘vaccine deaths are not a conspiracy’, ‘join us or be a slave’, ‘hate is a good honest emotion’, ‘the state wants 100% covid gone, I want 100% vaccine safety’, ‘why lockdown for the flu?’, etc.
    5. Local media will defame you. Get word out on your own to have everyone join the protest; use social media, but prepare to be blocked by twitter, youtube, facebook, so have online protesters keep re-posting under other accounts and on other venues;
    6. Be prepared to record everything; have roving members outside the perimeter, to start recording if protest is attacked;
    7. Be prepared for some members to be arrested; have a bail fund and legal counsel ready ahead of time;
    8. Be filled with righteous anger, be assertive but not aggressive. Never give up, keep the permanent protests going, expand them whenever and wherever possible;
    9. Share ideas, don’t just depend on others to show the way forward.

    One last thing to remember: the enemy will be defeated one step at a time.

    • Agree: I'm Goygeous
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Corvinus
  53. Alfred says:

    Ron Unz deserves our wholehearted thanks for publishing this – an article that seems to largely contradict his preferred thesis.

    • Replies: @but really
  54. HCQ says:

    Roberts has gotten one key fact entirely wrong which unfortunately makes me doubt much of his narrative.
    HCQ is not used in Tanzania to combat malaria as the strain is resistant. I lived in Malawi 1995 and 1996 and we used other drugs as prophylactics. I ended up with malaria and again HCQ was not an option.

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
  55. Franz says:

    Dr Roberts:

    Thank you;

    Anyone (everyone!):

    Any advice around for those who have already had the jab due to workplace requirements, & etc., and who now wish to minimize their risks?

    A family member (wife) was given the J&J “vaccine” and now we have pouring in information about how it sets you up for the Guillain-Barré syndrome and God knows what else. Thing is, the jab was not optional as she works in a pharmacy; at the time she got it the JJ shot was seen as the least hazardous of the lot.

    Checking on my own, but any tips would be appreciated. Also I know this has already gotten to some others on this board. Best of luck to all and thanks ahead of time for any feedback.

  56. Anzelo says:
    @bluestarfire

    Good, keep up channeling your starfire druid!

  57. First indicator #covidhoax was a hoax:
    governments seemed immediately prepared to handle this ‘crisis.’

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  58. TTSSYF says:

    Thank you, Dr. Roberts. I always make it a point to read your articles, and this one is especially good.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  59. No the virus is not real. See the works of Dr Hamer. The poison vaccine is the killer. The hoax of the “plandemic” was calling deaths from other causes as C virus deaths.

    • Agree: JasonT
  60. The Big Pharma wants to kill everyone on this planet for profits, so, what exactly are they going to spend those big profits on when everyone is dead and gone? Something is rotten somewhere!

  61. @bluestarfire

    The US Patent Office issued patents on something that does not exist? WOW!

  62. Bro43rd says:
    @Anon

    Or commenting about all the “conspiracy theorizers” in a negative way. It seems the boomers can’t fathom that governments (& their statistics) are anything but benevolent. Lost respect is not easily regained.

    • Replies: @Publius 2
  63. Emslander says:

    Why these totalitarian measures for a virus that accumulating evidence suggests might be less dangerous than the vaccine?

    Because the world population is having that “Eureka” moment that informs all of us that governments always lie when they are advancing the fears that keep us submissive and are NEVER successful at solving any of the problems the people of the world suffer.

    Governments, especially the pure liberal-secular governments like US and UK, are in flat-ass panic mode. Be very careful, because the next thing government does is start a massive war to distract from its ineptitude.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  64. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Mmmm, riiiiight. No doubt lots of computer modeling was used to prove all those nifty assertions you make. Computer models used to be GIGO, garbage-in-garbage-out. Now that they’ve replaced empirical science, computer models are FIFO, fantasy-in-fantasy-out.

    And now I’m ready for your hyperbolic screeching, which is the hallmark of responsible, well-informed, serious adults everywhere. Go For It, chuck-0 !!!

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch
  65. @anon

    Revelation 12, 12 KJV

    “Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    • Thanks: Emslander
  66. Alfred says:
    @Franz

    Any advice around for those who have already had the jab due to workplace requirements, & etc., and who now wish to minimize their risks?

    How to Neutralize Potential Damage from mRNA Vaccines

    • Replies: @john cronk
    , @glib
    , @Ktulu
    , @Anzelo
  67. Alfred says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Numerous maps have been discovered depicting our planet as it was before the last ice age. Many people claim that before written history, extremely advanced ancient civilizations existed on Earth and these ancient cultures, ignored by mainstream history, had well-developed cartography systems comparable in precision to the ones we have today.

    The Ancient ‘Buache Map’ is Depicting Ice-Free Antarctica

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
    • Replies: @Anzelo
  68. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Ktulu

    “If indeed the vaccines are ineffective at preventing infection by variants, and are themselves in many cases unwarranted risks (all these things I do believe) why then are no countries refusing vaccination?”

    Do you not know that the president’s of at least 3 countries (Zimbabwe, Burundi and Haiti) have now “mysteriously” died ( the most recent via plain as day assassination) , and that all 3 apparently refused to enact mass vaccination programs on their populations?

    I guess not.

    “Three presidents from three countries died under mysterious circumstances, and within months of each other, after they refused the experimental COVID injections for their people.”

    “The governments we are talking about who refused the World Health Organization’s death jab are Burundi, Tanzania and most recently Haiti.”
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/07/chuck-baldwin/three-presidents-reject-covid-vaccines-three-presidents-die/

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Anzelo
  69. Sarah says:

    I really really really really ike this article.

    It summarizes perfectly what we have to DO, in practice.

    Searching for the origin of the virus is mostly useful for virologists. It serves above all to manipulate the public opinion and to prepare it for a war against China, just as they do to prepare a war against Russia, Iran and North Korea. And as they did to destroy Serbia, Iraq, Syria and Libya.

    But for us patients, doctors and scientific researchers, these polemics can be summed up as follows: ” Ohhh😱😵 the dam broke, we are flooded, people might die but let’s start by looking for the origin of the water 😆😅😂🤣

    • Agree: GMC
  70. TTSSYF says:
    @dogbumbreath

    I’m pretty sure bleach bottles for years have indicated that bleach is effective against coronaviruses, among other things.

  71. JasonT says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    [This isn’t a Global Warming discussion thread.]

  72. Anzelo says:
    @Alfred

    Check South-America hungarian connections. Research carefully, you will be surprised.

  73. Anzelo says:
    @onebornfree

    Avoid being tested too, especially if results go anywhere else than your dustbin. They build the gene weapon against you as we speak. Also gene tests to identify ancestors. The test itself can be weaponized too.

  74. Anon[758] • Disclaimer says:

    “The fear that was intentionally hyped was used to get gullible and fearful people to accept unapproved “vaccines” that are proving to be as dangerous or more so than the Covid virus.”

    The fear that was intentionally hyped was used to get gullible and fearful people to accept
    universal mail in balloting in the 2020 election which facilitated the fraud that blocked Trump.

  75. Realist says:
    @follyofwar

    Excellent and informative article, Dr. Roberts.

    Agreed…as are most of his articles.

    I’m glad to see that comments are permitted for this one.

    Comments should be allowed on all articles. Evidently, Roberts’ narcissism doesn’t allow it.

    • Agree: Bayviking
    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Nancy
    , @TTSSYF
  76. Anon[758] • Disclaimer says:
    @bayviking

    “The fear that was intentionally hyped was used to get gullible and fearful people to accept unapproved “vaccines” that are proving to be as dangerous or more so than the Covid virus.”

    The fear that was intentionally hyped was used to get gullible and fearful people to accept
    universal mail in balloting in the 2020 election which facilitated the fraud that blocked Trump.

    • Replies: @Bayviking
  77. @Tsar Nicholas

    President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday said he was opposed to mandatory coronavirus vaccinations for Russians.
    Today, Sobyanin (the mayor of Moscow) announced the cancellation of mandatory QR codes in Moscow catering establishments from July 19.

    • Thanks: Old Brown Fool
    • Replies: @Tsar Nicholas
  78. MLK says:
    @JC99

    I agree — especially with the invocation of common sense.

    A couple of quick general comments.

    One of the digs on theories of conspiracy is that all conspirators must share the same objective(s) and motivations. In a word, nonsense. Indeed, if the stakes are high enough, both carrot and stick, the coalition of the willing and unwilling practically coalesces and maintains itself.

    It’s obvious to me at least that one objective specifically relates to product liability. Trump instituted Right To Try, which gave the terminally ill access to experimental medications by protecting Pharma (and doctors) from liability.

    Big Pharma wants that shield for all of their nostrums, with FDA licensing no longer a stamp of approval in terms of safety and effectiveness protocols.

    My suggestion for everyone who has inadvisedly taken these medications is to memorialize their thanks to those non-governmental/non-pharma entities and individuals, including doctors that convinced them they were safe as kittens taking an untested, experimental injection. This is what’s called putting them on notice and if it were done on anything close to a widespread basis the Covid Cultists would decide to keep their big mouths shut, at least if they have assets they wish to protect from civil liability.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  79. Realist says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The pseudonym Mumblebrain says it all.

  80. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I meant to say I do not believe media claims that hospitals are so full of Covid patients that hospitals are buckling from the strain.

    You may choose to believe media claims if you wish.

    I do not.

  81. Kumbaresu says:
    @Tsar Nicholas

    Anybody, who thinks that Putin is any better than Biden, is delusional. All of them are rotten to the core. This is as simple as that.

    • LOL: frontier
    • Replies: @Ultrafart the brave
  82. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Oy vey, MM, so shmart and so clever of you to avoid answering Jason’s point with irrelevance, but not so shmart to avoid giving yourself away by leading with the hasbara troll’s signature ad hominem. For our further amusement, how about next time using you hasbara troll’s favorite tactic, which is some sexual or scatological insult so out of place it reveals everything about your sick mind and nothing about your target. And, oy vey, MM, speak some algebra or astrophysics for us next time. Such a genius like I never seen.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  83. Tjoe says:

    The best antiviral is ethyl alcohol. It damages the protein layer of the virus that keeps it hidden from your antibodies and then they attack it. EverClear is 95% pure EA.

    Put a few drops on a cloth and using your cupped hands, inhale it into your sinus (nose) and lungs (mouth). Making it burn a little will tell you it’s working. Do for about 10 minutes.

    Or you can continue to believe injections into your blood will stop this sinus and lung virus and ignore the obvious….treating it where it grows by pure EA is easy and effective.

    • Replies: @GMC
  84. @Anon

    This is why Republicans at the state level are passing election reforms to make sure that in Nov 2022 (at least in red states) Democrats cannot rig elections again, like Democrats did on 3 Nov 2020.

    Democrats are desperate to stop these reforms, since Democrats know they can only win by cheating. However every one of their schemes to stop the reforms has failed.

    Democrats know that if they cannot rig elections, they will lose control of Congress in Nov 2022. All analyses agree on this. It is certain. And there is a good chance Democrats could lose the White House in 2024.

    I have never seen Democrats so desperate.

    • Agree: sulu
  85. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Here in North America, the various civil liberties organizations have shown their true colors by being silent or actively supporting lockdowns. Then again the only “civil liberties” they seem keen to protect are the rights of leftists to protest and disrupt society.

  86. Maddaugh says:
    @Franz

    I am not a Doctor but I have proven on myself that the body always strives for health. My habits:
    -Strict vegetarian and fruit diet
    -No more that 3 lbs of food eaten per day
    -One day a week I dont eat anything.
    -No flesh products whatsoever
    -No junk or processed food
    -I dont drink or smoke
    -I use no drugs
    -Lots of water
    -At least one hour of exercise a day. Walk, light weights, stairs and stretches
    -Adequate sleep and avoidance of all irritating people and situations
    -No food intake between 4 pm and 8 am

    There are tons of material in the library and internet. For a start I would check out Jack Lalanne “Live young forever”, anything written by Dr Sheldon, Dr Fuhrman. See also “how not to die” on Youtube.

    No guarantees but the body will,over time, eliminate all noxious substances as it cleans itself and strives for health. If you want to radically clean your system check out True North Health Centers where you can go on a full fast. Either way you will be horrified at the muck that the body expels both fluids, solids and mucus.

    Of course if people had been living a relatively orderly life they would never have to fear ANY disease.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @john cronk
    , @Franz
    , @gnbRC
  87. saggy says: • Website

    Allegedly, a person who died in a motorcycle crash was listed as a Covid death because he had a positive PCR test.

    Allegedly the moon is made of green cheese. In the age of heightened awareness of ‘conspiracy theories’ why would PCR write such idiocy? Typical of Unz.com articles on the subject.

  88. Close to a program of direct extermination ?

  89. JasonT says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    To preface this comment, I was a patent examiner for 7 years and have been a patent agent for 20 years.

    That the Patent Office grants patents for viruses is no indication that viruses actually exist.

    First, Patent Offices have no laboratory facilities and they experimentally check absolutely nothing. The Examiners rely entirely on the written submission of the Applicant and on the patent and scientific literature to assess the merits of the patent application.

    Second, Patent Examiners usually have post-graduate degrees, and depending on the subject matter area, the most advanced degree can be a Bachelor’s, Masters or Doctorate. For biotechnology, most, if not all, Examiners have a Doctorate. However, almost all Examiners have little to no experience in the field beyond their schooling.

    Third, Examiners have time quotas per case, which means that even if an Examiner was inclined to do a thorough job of examining the science, it would be impossible.

    Fourth, the primary task with which the Examiner fills the time quota is to search the literature to see if the claimed invention is novel and non-obvious. Correctness of description is not something the Examiner focuses on and, unless there is a glaring mistake, the Examiner will not usually catch it.

    The collection of items one to four above means, in a practical sense, that Patent Offices accept without discussion the scientific dogma in which they have been indoctrinated and largely accept without discussion that the description set forth in a patent application is correct and truthfully put forward.

    In the case of viruses, it is scientific dogma that viruses exist and Examiners have been inculcated in that dogma without the time or facilities to challenge that dogma even if they wanted to or were allowed to by the Patent Office brass. Therefore it is completely unsurprising that the Patent Office would grant patents on viruses and parts thereof, even if viruses do not actually exist.

  90. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Realist

    “Comments should be allowed on all articles. Evidently, Roberts’ narcissism doesn’t allow it.”

    Hah! Good one! 😎

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Thanks: Realist
  91. Emslander says:
    @A little boy in the crowd

    I had Covid myself in January 2020.

    The amazing number of people who had the SARS and survived with a week of flu symptoms is as revealing as is the number of holocaust survivors coming forward.

    Just peaks my curiosity a bit.

    • LOL: Fr. John
  92. Kali says:

    This just in from The Concent Factory, aka CJ Hopkins, former UR columnist:

    The Approaching Storm

    [Inserting “More” tag because of the length, but the jist isn’t out of place in this comment thread.]

    [MORE]

    So, it looks like GloboCap isn’t going to be happy until they have fomented the widespread social unrest — or de facto global civil war — that they need as a pretext to lock in the new pathologized totalitarianism and remake whatever remains of society into a global pseudo-medicalized police state, or that appears to where we’re headed currently. We appear to be heading there at breakneck speed. I don’t have a crystal ball or anything, but I’m expecting things to get rather ugly this Autumn, and probably even uglier in the foreseeable future.

    Yes, friends, a storm is coming. It has been coming for the last 16 months. And GloboCap is steering right into it. I, and many others like me, have been tracking its relentless advance like a self-appointed International Pathologized-Totalitarian Hurricane Center (you know, like the one in Miami, except all the meteorologists are “conspiracy theorists”). We have documented all the propaganda, the lies, the manipulation of statistics, the abrogation of constitutional rights, the New Normal goon squads, the corporate censorship, and all the rest of the roll-out of the new official ideology and the totalitarian measures deployed to enforce it.

    Our efforts have not been in vain, but they have not been successful enough to change the course events are now taking … a course of events that has always been clear, a course that every totalitarian movement needs to take to get where it’s going. You can’t remake entire societies into quasi-totalitarian systems without civil unrest, chaos, rioting, war, or some other form of cataclysm. Brainwashing the masses is all fine and good, but, at some point, you need to goad the people who are resisting your new totalitarian “reality” into getting unruly, so you can crack down on them, and transform them into official enemies, which appears to be what is happening currently.

    GloboCap is dialing up the totalitarianism, and they are rubbing it in our faces. Here in New Normal Germany, prominent health officials are openly barking out Goebbelsian slogans like “NO FREEDOM FOR THE UNVACCINATED!” and “THE UNVACCINATED ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY!” All over Europe, including the UK, where “Freedom Day” is fast approaching, pseudo-medical social-segregation systems are being implemented. In France, Greece, and many other countries, people who refuse to be “vaccinated” are being stripped of their jobs and otherwise punished. In the USA, where the Unvaccinated are also being segregated, New Normal goon squads are going door-to-door, bullying “vaccine hesitant” families into conforming to the new official ideology.

    And so on … I’m tired of citing the facts. They do not make the slightest difference to the vast majority of New Normals, anyway. As I’ve noted in several previous columns, these people have surrendered their rationality, and have been subsumed into a totalitarian movement, which has become their perceptual and social “reality,” which their “sanity” now depends upon defending, so the facts mean absolutely nothing to them.

    And you already know the facts.

    Yes, you. Us. The others. The Unvaccinated. The “Covid deniers.” You don’t really think any hardcore New Normals have made it this far into this column, do you? They haven’t. If they stumbled into it on the Internet and accidentally started to read it, their brains switched off in the opening paragraph … literally, neurologically, switched off. They recognized it as a threat to their “reality” and instantly erased it from their consciousness, or they reported it to the proper authorities, perhaps the FBI, the Bundesnachrichtendienst, or Facebook, or some other global corporation.

    This is what it has come to, folks … people are reporting other people’s “thoughtcrimes” to global corporations and the law enforcement agencies of “democratic” governments in the hopes of destroying or damaging their lives, or, at the very least, getting them censored, or otherwise erased from public view.

    As I noted in my previous column, our societies have been torn apart. We’re living in two mutually hostile “realities,” a state which cannot continue indefinitely. The problem for us (i.e., the Unvaccinated) is, we probably constitute somewhere around 20 to 25 percent of the population, so we are massively outnumbered by New Normals. The problem for the New Normals is, we probably constitute somewhere around 20 to 25 percent of the population, which is way too many people to imprison or otherwise remove from society.

    Thus, their plan is to make our lives as miserable as possible, to segregate us, stigmatize us, demonize us, bully, and harass us, and pressure us to conform at every turn. They are not going to put us on the trains to the camps. GloboCap is not the Nazis. They need to maintain the simulation of democracy. So they need to transform us into an underclass of “anti-social conspiracy theorists,” “anti-vaxxer disinformationists,” “white-supremacist election-result deniers,” “potentially violent domestic extremists,” and whatever other epithets they come up with, so that we can be painted as dangerously unhinged freaks and cast out of society in a way that makes it appear that we have cast out ourselves.

    This process is already well underway, and it’s only going to get more intense, which will inevitably lead to social unrest. The hardcore “Unvaccinated” are not going to go quietly. Again, this isn’t Nazi Germany. There are too many of us who are already resisting. They can segregate us, ban us from travelling, blackout our protests, censor us, deplatform us, cancel our bank accounts, and otherwise harass us, but they cannot forcibly disappear us. So, they are going to keep goading us until we lose it. We have demonstrated incredible discipline so far, but eventually, we’re going to run out patience. It’s going to get messy. People will get hurt.

    Which, of course, is exactly what GloboCap wants. Nothing will make them happier than if we turn ourselves into the “violent extremists” they have been conjuring into existence for the last five years. They desperately need us to become those “extremists” before we “embolden” too many others with our “disinformation,” “vaccine hesitancy,” “election result denial,” and general distaste for the whole global-capitalist ideological program.

    Unfortunately, they are probably going to get their wish.

    What we need is an organized, global campaign of classic, non-violent civil disobedience, but they are not going to give us time to organize that. They are going to keep the pressure on, and crank up the pace, and the official propaganda, and the absurdity, and the confusion, and the ever-changing rules, and the mass hysteria, and the blatant lies, until we start flipping out in restaurants, and in pubs, and schools, and on public transportation, and segregated New Normal establishments start getting nocturnally vandalized, or worse, and other forms of “direct action” are taken.

    At which point, game over, because they will have won. We will be the “extremists” they warned themselves about, and they’ll be able to do whatever they want with us, and our former (now New Normal) friends will applaud, or just look away in silence.

    Or … I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe some New Normals are still reading this essay, and can still, at this late stage, regain their senses. Maybe we can still avoid the storm, and the full implementation of “New Normal Reality.” I know, I’m probably a hopeless idealist, but let me tell you a quick anecdote before I let you go.

    I’ve been kind of nudging, or politely badgering, Glenn Greenwald, who I respect, and have always respected, to grow a pair and at least speak out against the totalitarian features of the New Normal movement. Glenn is totally on board with the official Covid narrative, and has made it clear that he has no interest in using his investigative-journalism skills to investigate that official narrative. Despite that, I have continued to nudge him, and politely prod him, and otherwise urge him, to maybe post a few critical words, or raise a few investigative-journalist questions, about the most flagrant official propaganda campaign in the history of official propaganda campaigns and the blatantly totalitarian actions of governments all over the world.

    For example, I posted this on Twitter recently.
    15 months into the New Normal, as government officials openly bark out spittle-flecked, Goebbelsian slogans like “THERE IS NO FREEDOM FOR THE UNVACCINATED!” and “THE UNVACCINATED ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY!”, the silence from certain quarters is deafening.”

    Shortly thereafter — and I’m sure this was just a coincidence, because Glenn doesn’t follow the Consent Factory — he tweeted this bit of New Normal blasphemy:

    “The UK is one of the most vaccinated countries on earth. 70% have at least one dose. More than half have both. The CDC says vaccinated people need not wear masks.

    Why do experts who keep insisting the vaccine works demand people act as if it doesn’t? Why ignore CDC advice?”

    So, apparently, it is, in fact, still possible for people who believe the official Covid narrative as if it were the Word of God to speak out against some aspect of it, or just politely question the logic of it, or otherwise stop behaving like a bunch of mindlessly obedient “Good Germans” as a new iteration of totalitarianism is rolled out right in front of their eyes.

    Yes, I know. I’m clutching at straws, but I have this crazy faith in people. On top of which, I’m getting old, so I am not looking forward to the street-fighting part of this as much as I would have 30 or 40 years ago.

    Oh, and, I almost forgot, to all my friends in the New Normal UK … have a lovely Freedom Day!

    https://consentfactory.org/2021/07/14/the-approaching-storm/

    All the best,
    Kali.

  93. Emslander says:
    @Anon

    I also salute Mr. Unz for allowing articles that seem to contradict his own convictions.

  94. Bayviking says:
    @Anon

    Trump is dishonest, incompetent and sad that the dirty tricks openly employed by Republicans since 2000 did not propel him to a second undemocratic electoral college victory. Though he has surprisingly strong support for a con-artist, he has never enjoyed support from a majority of Americans. To pretend otherwise is profoundly delusional.

    In Florida the vote rigging has been obvious for a very long time. These practices are utilized by Republicans in the majority of States in which they control the Governorship and legislature. Without those dirty tricks they have a loyal following of 25 percent. This in a country disgusted by both parties to such an extent that the largest declared party is Independent, at 40 percent. Our campaign battles are based on character assassination, not policy discussion, required for a functional democracy.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  95. onebornfree says: • Website
    @JasonT

    “In the case of viruses, it is scientific dogma that viruses exist and Examiners have been inculcated in that dogma without the time or facilities to challenge that dogma even if they wanted to or were allowed to by the Patent Office brass.”

    Thanks for this. I didn’t know it, but I did suspect that something along those lines might in fact be the case, cynic that I am.

    Regards, onebornfree

  96. JasonT says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    A virus is a package of polynucleic acids and protein covered in lipid. It is not ‘living’ but is said to replicate inside a cell using the cellular machinery of the cell.

    Do viruses actually exist? While it is dogma that they do, a simple look at what virologists do to isolate a virus casts doubt.

    When isolating a virus, a sample of body fluid (blood, snot or other body sample) is inoculated into cells the cells cultured. Cell cultures which have a hard time surviving (presumably because the virus is present in the cells from the sample), are then processed by centrifugation to isolate a fraction that contains the virus. Then the virus can be observed under an electron microscope. The samples of virus are then sequenced to determined the nature of the virus.

    Given that, one should become immediately suspicious. All cells contain polynucleic acids, proteins and lipids, that is how they function. Any cell death results in cellular debris, which contains as a component thereof, packages of polynucleic acids, protein and lipids.

    How does one know whether the isolated ‘viruses’ are such things or whether they are simply products of cell death? These cell death products could certainly act as toxins eliciting an array of symptoms in living organisms, including the symptoms attributed to viruses.

    Further, these cell death products could also be weaponized as any chemical weapon can be weaponized.

    • Thanks: Kali, Thomasina
    • Replies: @frontier
  97. With one exception, this is first P.C. Roberts column I’ve read in a few years, since whenever the time was he got in a big argument with the commenters on the Global Climate Stupidity topic, couldn’t handle being argued with with logic and reason, and got all snippety and closed down the comments. (So, please, guys, lay off him on that – he’s sensitive about the feelings of this sensitive Mother Earth of ours.)

    The exception was one column in which this pundit told us he’s now a Socialist. Hey, senility can be taxing. I gave up on the guy, till today …

    So as not to continue insulting the host here, I’ll say that I am glad I finally clicked on another column by the man. That was a hell of a good rundown. Peak Stupidity has covered much of the human factors, the business failures, lower-education totalitarianism and pure stupidity, the unseemly ridiculous donning of face diapers as a way of life, etc. in over 150 posts with the Kung Flu Stupidity topic key.*

    However, this article summarizes the likely big picture of this matter better. I have seen this more as a Panic-Fest brought to fruition by the Lyin’ Press, who got themselves a years worth of rapt attention by the suckers of the world and governments of all sorts full of people addicted to power. I’d figured these people simply took advantage of what was a minor crisis at very worst. Whether this is truly a plandemic is not something I’m sure about, but there are definitely enough evil people in high places that could have participated.

    Finally, regarding the origin of the virus, that may be a point of contention, but to me it’s the PanicFest that is the real story here, not the virus itself. I have a feeling Mr. Roberts would agree, from what he wrote here. However, the knowledge is in plain site that both the Americans and Chinese operate labs, in COLLABORATION, that are for “Gain of function” research (see “Gain a function, lose a function”). Though the purported purpose is to enable the creation of vaccines for viruses that haven’t even formed yet naturally (and my never), the difference between this purpose and bioweapons research is nil other than the name of the lab. Knowing Chinese Q/C practices, my common sense tells me the virus came from the lab in Wuhan.

    Thank you so much for a very concise summary of what’s been going on with this ridiculous Kung Flu PanicFest, and what the next step is, whether planned or simply the next step in controlling their worthless underlings by the stupid & evil elites of the modern world.

    .

    * I gotta say, I like VDare’s Allan Wall’s use of “Flu Manchu” better now, but what’s done is done.

  98. Emslander says:
    @bayviking

    The doubtful factor in your observation that undertakers were overwhelmed by Covid deaths in some places is that flu deaths disappeared as a statistic over the past eighteen months of the ‘demic. I just wonder how you deal with that in the context of all these facts.

    • Replies: @Polemos
    , @Bayviking
  99. Skeptikal says:
    @Dumbo

    “what they want is total control: total knowledge of your movements, of what diseases and genetic information you have, who you met, etc. Besides, this is a big test for mRNA technology, which they want to use for a lot of stuff, not just vaccines. “The operating system of life”, as they call it. A great source of revenue, and also, of control, of our own genetic information. ”

    These aims have been clearly stated by GAVI and other PTB in the world of health government.
    It’s called ID2020.
    I don’t know why people don’t take these international actors at their word:

    https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines

    [MORE]

    “The ID2020 Alliance has launched a new digital identity program at its annual summit in New York, in collaboration with the Government of Bangladesh, vaccine alliance Gavi, and new partners in government, academia, and humanitarian relief.

    The program to leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity was unveiled by ID2020 in partnership with the Bangladesh Government’s Access to Information (a2i) Program, the Directorate General of Health Services, and Gavi, according to the announcement.

    Digital identity is a computerized record of who a person is, stored in a registry. It is used, in this case, to keep track of who has received vaccination.

    “We are implementing a forward-looking approach to digital identity that gives individuals control over their own personal information, while still building off existing systems and programs,” says Anir Chowdhury, policy advisor at a2i. “The Government of Bangladesh recognizes that the design of digital identity systems carries far-reaching implications for individuals’ access to services and livelihoods, and we are eager to pioneer this approach.”

    Gavi CEO Seth Berkley says that 89 percent of children and adolescents who do not have identification live in countries where the organization is active. “We are enthusiastic about the potential impact of this program not just in Bangladesh, but as something we can replicate across Gavi-eligible countries, providing a viable route to closing the identity gap,” he says.

    A partnership was also formed earlier this year between Gavi, NEC, and Simprints to use biometrics to improve vaccine coverage in developing nations.

    “Digital ID is being defined and implemented today, and we recognize the importance of swift action to close the identity gap,” comments ID2020 Executive Director Dakota Gruener. “Now is the time for bold commitments to ensure that we respond both quickly and responsibly. We and our ID2020 Alliance partners, both present and future, are committed to rising to this challenge.”

    ID2020 also announced new partnerships and provided progress reports on initiatives launched last year. Since last year’s summit, the ID2020 Alliance has been joined by the City of Austin, UC Berkeley’s CITRIS Policy Lab and Care USA.

    The City of Austin, ID2020, and several other partners are working together with homeless people and the service providers who engage with them to develop a blockchain-enabled digital identity platform called MyPass to empower homeless people with their own identity data.

    A pair of inaugural pilot programs launched last year in partnership with iRespond and Everest have each made progress, ID2020 says. The iRespond program has improved continuity of care for more than 3,000 refugees receiving treatment for chronic conditions from the International Rescue Committee in Thailand, according to the announcement, while Everest has assisted with the provision of access to critical energy subsidies and a range of additional services with secure and user-centric digital identities without relying on a smartphone.

    This post was updated at 4:58pm on March 26, 2020 to clarify that the program is intended to allow people to receive vaccination and prove they have received it, not to track individuals, as claimed by some conspiracy theorists.
    +++++++++++++

    Well, you decide what to make of this. As for me, as soon as someone uses the “conspiracy theory” meme I know what I think.

  100. Bayviking says:
    @JasonT

    The question of whether viruses exist begs the question do we even exist. Viral structure and DNA sequence are mapped and studied for both viruses and humans.

    In all things under Capitalism, the person or institution with the deepest pockets prevails, at least initially. But eventually the truth has a way of emerging after about fifty years. The truth about leaded gasoline and tobacco use took that long to emerge. The corrupting influence is Corporate profits, which keeps glyphosate on the market presently. Certainly, Covid vaccines also fit into that pattern, for Pfizer at least, but not Cuba.

  101. There was so much good stuff in this article, I didn’t address the vaccine business. I gotta say that I have not been following all the data on deaths and injury from the vaccine, except info. from friends and family. I appreciate the run-down on it here too. I have not paid that much attention in my and my family’s case simply due to:

    I have been exposed to lots of people from all over the world since this started in Feb. ’20 with no face diaper on except the times I would have been fired for not wearing it. I don’t get pulmonary problems, knock on something… The rest of the family is younger and has not a damn thing to worry about. We are simply not going to take this jab. Yes, we are concerned about the Biden crowd trying to make us, but we are not going to take it.

    We have a cute 25 y/o piano instructor who told me she got vaccinated. (I don’t know if the university forced her.) I wish she’d mentioned it beforehand, as the lack of perspective that would have a young lady to this is astounding. She had and still hopefully has, an insignificant chance of any serious illness from the Kung Flu. That is known from a year and a half of massive amounts of data. Yet there are unknown effects on fertility, if not anything else, from the vaccines. WTF goes through peoples’ minds, just the output of the TV?

    Yes, they come up with new goblins to re-scare up the population. There is the Delta variant now. That’s one thing, but when they get to the Tri-Delta variant, that ought to ease everyone’s minds, as you know that it would be nothing more than a post-modern version of the clap.

    .

    Just a joke, sorority sisters – keep up that Pep!

    • Replies: @Fr. John
  102. Kumbaresu says:
    @Dumbo

    Personally, I don’t think that the vaccines are a “depopulation tool”. A lot of it is just the money. Perhaps they want a subscription model with yearly shots.

    Unfortunately, there is no way to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the “vaccines” are designed to kill you, however there is an overwhelming evidence that governments around the world are committing mass murder around the clock by forcing people to wear masks many hours a day. The worst victims of this genocide are school children. Face masks are equivalent to slow death by suffocation. Doctors, hospitals and pharmacies are actively participating in the genocide by denying access to the real medicine such as ivermectin. By doing so they have proven that they are a global death cult. Every doctor I had to deal with for the last 12 months reminds me Joseph Mengele. Every time I am “highly recommended” to take the shot, I say very politely “No, thank you”, but I wish I could say: “No, fuck you. Please, do me a favor and shove your shitty vaccines up your ass”. And some day I will, because my patience is not unlimited.

  103. Covid-19 does not exist, it has never been isolated, it is the biggest scam and psyop in the history of the world, a scam and psyop to destroy all independent means of making a living and to put the world under a satanic one world government that will make Orwells 1984 look like paradise in comparison.

    Covid-19 has been used to scare the people of the world into a mass hysteria to get them to take the injections of mRNA which alters the DNA and destroys the immune system and will act as a genocide agent and a depopulation agent.

    This scam and psyop is a result of the demented, psyopathic minds of the WEF, the Rockefeller and Gates Foundation, the United Nations UN Agenda 2030, the WHO, the zionist controlled central banks of the world including the FED, these in particular were the main pushers of the covid-19 scam and psyop and enabled it to be unleashed on the world in fell swoop.

    Covid-19 is an illusion , a myth, a phantom, that has become the tip of the spear aimed at every freedom loving person, if people do not wake up this scam and psyop, we face a future that will make a hell on earth.

    The Wuhan lab story is a diversion to give credence to the myth and illusion, covid-19 is the biggest lie in the history of the world.

    • Replies: @Kumbaresu
    , @John Johnson
  104. Possumman says:

    Of course the “Delta variant” is spreading–it has it’s own airline!

    • LOL: Old and Grumpy
  105. Anon[310] • Disclaimer says:

    Personally, I believe
    1) covid is real. It kills, though perhaps not as much as current numbers say.
    2) treatment was ruthlessly suppressed for money and profits.
    3) vaccination should not be mandatory, even less vaccine passports. Specially as the obligation is predicated on lack of treatment.
    4) I cannot (yet) believe the vaccines are the path to making us as Harari says, “hackable animals” or to kill us down the line, or to kill the economy and reduce us to economic slavery via universal income. Occam’s razor suggests it’s about profit and covering their backs.

    Thank you, Mr Unz for allowing respected PCR to publish this, a very good summary of the arguments for “vaccine hesitancy”, as you personally do not share such views. There are some spaces for civilized debate yet!

    • Replies: @Wild Man
    , @Mark G.
  106. VICB3 says:
    @follyofwar

    Per some of my less than savory acquaintances, career criminals:

    The essence of a con is to offer hope.

    First you get the mark worked up, either about losing or gaining something. And then you offer up a bit of hope, something that will resolve things quickly and easily. The mark then usually will seize upon it.

    Salvation at last!

    That’s what this whole virus and vaccine thing is all about.

    I feel better now. I feel safer now.

    And you’d better do it too! Because if you don’t do it, I’m less safe.

    Kindergarten level conformity follows, because we all want to be “Good Citizens” don’t we.

    And if you dare to point out the con, refuse to participate, well, no milk and crackers for you. Even a trip to the Principle maybe!

    And like the TSA kabuki, most people end up going along with it even though they think it’s a crock. Because few people want to rock the boat or be thought of as “Out of Line.”

    Or even canceled and/or thrown in jail.

    How will I buy groceries?!

    And that’s how this whole virus and vaccine con works, something to make you fearful and dependent.

    And less free.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3

    • Agree: Kali, sulu
    • Replies: @Johann von Puyallup
  107. @Monotonous Languor

    The various gov’t know how to deal with protests. If you want to stand up for your natural rights, sit down.

    That part of the population that doesn’t want to be injected should front run the gov’t threat of ‘no jab, no job’. A huge portion of the population should quit or screw up so bad to get fired so that 20% of all jobs go vacant. That would halt the economy and there’s no law against sitting down and being quiet.

    Any attempt to overtly push against the narrative will be met with force. Sit down, instead, and stop their whole machine.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @RestiveUs
    , @HVM
  108. Kumbaresu says:
    @Desert Fox

    This scam and psyop is a result of the demented, psyopathic minds of the WEF, the Rockefeller and Gates Foundation, the United Nations UN Agenda 2030, the WHO, the zionist controlled central banks of the world including the FED, these in particular were the main pushers of the covid-19 scam and psyop and enabled it to be unleashed on the world in fell swoop.

    The key word here is DEMENTED. The cabal is truly demented and is engaged in a suicidal behavior. They have been somewhat successful in terms of administering death and destruction, but they don’t seem to have an exit strategy, and eventually their life guards will begin taking a lot of sick and personal days. Very soon there will be no one to protect them from the street justice, and they will have a chance to get a taste of their own medicine, by the law of unintended consequences.

  109. So if independent hospitals are reporting that over 99% of deaths in the US are now among the unvaccinated how exactly is the conspiracy working? Are thousands of hospital directors all in on it?
    https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210629/almost-all-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated

    Sometimes the best thing you can do is be a man and just admit you were wrong. It can be difficult but people will admire your resolve.

    If Trump had done that midpoint and stopped trying to downplay the virus we wouldn’t have Biden and the completely incompetent Kamala.

  110. Lee Sonne says:
    @follyofwar

    My 72 year old obese neighbour came down with Covid. I brought him tonic water to drink. He already took zinc every day so no need to buy him zinc supplements. The next day, all of his symptoms disappeared and he had no other symptoms since then. He says I saved his life. He was only 2-3 days into the disease and had horrible body pain from head to toe. Lucky for him, because this treatment doesn’t work later in the disease.

    My question in light of all of that is: “How many people died needlessly because they are withholding information about the treatment of covid?”

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy, Mark G.
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  111. The virus is real.

    Many viruses are real. Cold viruses, such as the object of the ongoing hysteria, cause minor illness in healthy individuals and potentially serious illness in those who are vulnerable because they are elderly or in poor health. The issue is not whether this particular cold virus is real but whether it’s unusually virulent. And the answer is, “No, it’s not.” All evidence indicates the global elites picked an ordinary cold virus and used it as a pretext to execute their previously formulated plans.

    • Agree: Alfred, TheTrumanShow
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Publius 2
  112. Kapyong says:
    @Levtraro

    This database does not contain info on deaths, only on suspected adverse side-effects of medicines approved by EMA and by particular EU countries, and death is not considered a side-effect, lol! So the 17+ thousand deaths figure seems to be completely made-up by the author of the GlobalResearch piece.

    It does report fatalities, but they are hard to find, and there is no total.
    https://www.adrreports.eu/en/index.html

    Note the important message at right for COVID-19 includes a warning about fatalities : “This website does not provide the total number of cases reported with a fatal outcome. It provides the number of cases reported as fatal for specific reactions groups (e.g. cardiac disorders) and for specific reactions (e.g. myocardial infarction). Since one individual case may contain more than one suspected side effect, the sum of the number of fatal cases per reaction group will always be higher than the total number of fatal cases.

    There are 4 vaccines listed –
    * COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE MODERNA (CX-024414)
    * COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE PFIZER-BIONTECH (TOZINAMERAN)
    * COVID-19 VACCINE ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19)
    * COVID-19 VACCINE JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S)

    Click on e.g. Moderna and that opens the database portal (can be slow.)
    Along the top are several tabs – select “Number of Individual Cases for a selected Reaction” (not “…Group”).
    Bottom right is the Outcome chart, with the top outcome being “Fatal“.
    Note that figure only applies to the selected Reaction Group at top left of page, or the specific reaction below, e.g. for Cardiac Disorders I see 522 fatalities, Myocardial Infarction has 92 fatalities.

    Presumably the reported totals have been done by manually adding the individual Fatal figures for each Reaction Group and vaccine – producing an inflated result per the warning.

    • Thanks: Levtraro, Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  113. GMC says:
    @Tjoe

    Very interesting , when I caught the virus , my Russian wife rubbed my chest , back and feet with —- Moonshine ! at night and made sure I was all bundled up , in order to keep the heat in. Russians, the old soul ones use a lot of old time natural medicines/ remedies. They use many herbal teas, soups, natural juices { Kompote}and other fruit juices are available – locally, and such. All the foods are mostly locally grown and the market places are fresh produce. Spacibo

    • Agree: Alfred, Tjoe
  114. Maddaugh says:

    The whole Corona thing was, is and will continue to be hogwash until the public ignore all the nonsense spouted. I dont know anyone who died from the thing and while some acquaintances got it, or so their Doctor said, in a week or two they were 100%.

    If we assume all “covid” deaths really were due to the virus, the recovery rate is around what 99.85% !? However with all the hocus pocus reporting of deaths it seems to me that recovery was 100%.

    Everyone jumped on the stupid story and going back over UR articles Karlin wrote extensive articles with silly cartoon thumbnails and all sorts of colourful graphs predicting deaths in the millions. What a load of baloney. Social media is full of ad hoc commentators barfing about everything from Trump returning to the White House in August to Bill Gates using hair spray to manipulate the climate. There is no shortage of screen suckers to lap up all this shit 24/7

    The experts are also a bunch of wishy washy dubs. Just a week or so ago I read a whole article on Yahoo that mixing vaccines was okay, the research said so. Just one day later there was another article that this was dangerous, also with “research”. The hogwash they feed the public changes with the wind.

    The real idiots though are the public. Yesterday I was on an elevator. Just as the door opened I heard two guys waiting outside yammering about them having had their second shot. They were both wearing masks, the elevator was big enough to do the social distancing b/s but they wondered if it was okay to come into the elevator. Lets see, vaccinated, masked, social distancing ? And still scared ??

    We know every government lies and cheats. Politicians would sell their mother to pimps for their votes and yet people continue to blindly accept what these shysters tell them.

    If the virus was a a bio attack it failed. If meant to thin world population it failed. If the vaccine as we are now told will kill a lot of people that would be unfortunate. On the other hand something good may come of this in that we thin out the idiots.

    In the meantime we all anxiously await the next drama/ hoax/ emergency or whatever designed to keep the masses on the edge and living in perpetual fear. If you ask me the greatest danger is not white militia groups, rioting blacks, climate change, Corona or the Chinese. It is our own idiocy from looking at the bloop tube all day !

    • Agree: Liza, Realist
    • Replies: @Verity
    , @Anatoly Karlin
  115. dimples says:
    @Levtraro

    All the vaccines, regardless of type (except perhaps the Chinese version) cause the cell to generate spike proteins. Its the cell generated spike proteins which are said to cause all the trouble. So if you are going to die from spike protein disease, Sputnik V won’t help you.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  116. Dystopian says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I have nephew who has a college indoctrination in “environmental science”. He believes, like you , that the sun has absolutely nothing to do with climate. I’ll ask you the same question I asked him. What do you think would happen if the sun went out?

  117. There are two lies about vaccination.
    I) if you are vaccinated you are protected against getting the virus.
    2) if you are vaccinated you do not infect other people.
    …………………………………………………………….
    Vaccination is the process to make your body familiar of virus and force your body to create antibodies. It is your spleen that takes care of it. Antibodies are injected into your bloodstream. The pattern of antibodies does remain in your spleen for certain period of time. Depending of the individual.
    ………………………………………………..
    So if you are vaccinated you still get the virus and you still get sick. The only difference is that your body response is considerably faster and much better. But also your body detect the virus only when the virus enters your blood stream. So in mean time you can infect other people

  118. @VICB3

    thank you for the informative comparison

  119. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lee Sonne

    News for you: “Tonic Water” does not contain quinine these days. I know you mean well.

  120. Thank you Dr Roberts for calling attention to this important interview that needs to get even wider distribution. Quoting from this article.

    Having comprehended the information in my article, you are aware that you have been manipulated into compliance with a secret agenda. You are now prepared to face powerful and conclusive documented evidence presented by Dr. David Martin that Covid was an intentional release, not a leak from a lab or a natural virus from bats.

    Note also that UNC, NIAID, and Moderna began making the spike protein “vaccine” prior to the outbreak of the pandemic.

    Here’s a transcript from the interview that explains that. It is found right after the quote from the interview at the 29-30 minute mark in the Paul Craig Roberts article.

    …there wasn’t a lab leak, this was an intentional bioweaponization of spike proteins to inject into people to get them addicted to a pan-coronavirus vaccine. This has nothing to do with a pathogen that was released and every study that’s ever been launched to try to verify a lab leak is a red herring.

    (Question: And there’s really nothing that is new in this…)

    Nothing. Zero. 73 patents on everything clinically novel. 73 all issued before 2019. And I’m going to give you the biggest bombshell of all to prove that this was actually not a release of anything, because patent 7279327, the patent on the recombinant nature of that lung-targeting coronavirus, was transferred mysteriously from the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill to the National Institutes of Health in 2018. Now here’s the problem with that. Under the Bayh-Dole Act, the US Government already has what’s called a march-in right provision. That means that if the US Government has paid for research, they are entitled to benefit from that research at their demand or at their whim. So explain why in 2017 and 2018, suddenly the National Institutes of Health have to take ownership of the patent, that they already had rights to, held by the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. And how did they need to file a certificate of correction to make sure that it was legally enforceable, because there was a typographical error in the grant reference in the first filing. So they needed to make sure that not only did they get it right but they needed to make sure that every typographical error that was contained in the patent was correct on the single patent required to develop the Vaccine Research Institute’s mandate which was shared between the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill in November of 2019 and Moderna, in November of 2019, when UNC Chapel Hill, NIAID and Moderna began the sequencing of a spike protein vaccine a month before an outbreak every happened.

    (Question: You have all the evidence, right?)

    Yep.

  121. @Robert Snefjella

    Will millions resist? Hope so, but doubt it. Most people will go along to get along.

    • Replies: @Robert Snefjella
  122. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-fourth-wave-of-covid-19-cases-is-here-will-we-escape-the-uk-s-fate-it-s-too-soon-to-know/ar-AAMdQrS?ocid=msedgntp
    More than 99% of those currently hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated. Ostrosky said virtually all his patients are unvaccinated and all regret not getting the shots.

    It seems that pro-vaccine support is unanimous among people that get hospitalized.

    Can anyone source someone that was hospitalized but still claims the virus isn’t real or that the vaccine doesn’t work?

    • Replies: @Branko
  123. @Alfred

    This advice may be helpful or not, but the J&J is not an mRNA vaccine.

  124. @saggy

    Have to agree with saggy on this one. Sentences like this are inexcusable from someone with PCR’s background and credentials. But he does something like this in every article he writes. One has to wonder.

    • Replies: @JoeFour
  125. @Maddaugh

    Lots of good thinking there.
    Lose the vegetables, add meat, fish, eggs and animal based saturated fats the way we’ve evolved to, and you’ll thrive.
    Read ‘The Carnivore Code’

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
  126. This was never a pandemic. In 2009 the WHO changed the way a pandemic is defined, which ultimately resulted in this debacle.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  127. Nancy says:
    @The Real World

    Please let us know what treatment you received. Did your docs follow the MATH+ protocol? Did you get HCQ + azythromicin? or IVM? or were you taking extra Vit D? did you take zinc + quercitin? This is really important information…. thanks for sharing 🙂

    • Replies: @The Real World
  128. render says:
    @Tsar Nicholas

    The claim that Putin enforced the jab is mistaken. He openly expressed in his public appearance by TV days ago that he was against jab enforcement. The Major of Moscow, Sobyanin is the one pushing the massive vax. Some tourist areas such as Sochi also enforced them for arrivals. The news are as placed by The Moscow Times, which belongs to non-Russian proAmerican agents is
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/07/16/coronavirus-in-russia-the-latest-news-july-16-a69117

  129. Alfred says:
    @John Johnson

    if independent hospitals are reporting that over 99% of deaths in the US are now among the unvaccinated how exactly is the conspiracy working?

    That is certainly different from everywhere else. Do you really trust it? And how old were these “unvaccinated” who died?

    I am 71, I am far more concerned about becoming incapacitated.

    And how many soldiers have been damages but have not reported it yet? And how about all the other organs – kidneys, spleen, testes, liver, ovaries, brain, lungs?

    A recent study1 of U.S. military personnel who had accepted the COVID-19 jab show there was a higher-than-expected rate of myocarditis.2 The data were published in the JAMA Cardiology by physicians from the Navy, Army and Air Force.3

    The Myocarditis Foundation4 reports the condition is usually classified as a rare disease. Yet, 3.1 million cases were diagnosed in 2017, which offers enough data to estimate the number of individuals who may develop myocarditis in a given population.

    US Military Confirms Heart Inflammation After COVID Vaccine

  130. glib says:
    @Alfred

    Thanks Alfred. This does not solve the problem of counteracting the other things in a vaccine, such as the things that make magnets stick to the injection spot (no link as my other post about it was deleted). The italian blogosphere has herbalists saying that tea of pine or fir needles also counteracts mRNA (needle tea is anyway a time-honored way to intake vitamin C during the cold months) through a specific substance.

    I hypothesize that, if lipase deletes the RNA lipid shield, taking some lipase will expose the RNA to the immune system and it will disappear in short order. A 3-day fast could also help, same reason (100% fat burning).

  131. Liza says:
    @JasonT

    People (apparently) like the idea of enemies, so in the medical world they divide things up into Villains (viruses) and Army (immune system). LOL. Time to graduate from this militaristic outlook. The reality is that symptoms show up in order to try to keep you alive. All that suffering is your wise body trying to do cleanup. The worst approach is the forced, unnatural attempt to prevent the cleanup and its necessary symptoms.

    • Thanks: Polemos
    • Replies: @Tjoe
  132. Notsofast says:

    dr. roberts speaks of tanzania having a low instance covid due their ubiquitous use of hcq (which i believe is referred to as sunday medicine because of its weekly use). dr. john magufuli was the president of tanzania at the start of covid, being a man of science he questioned the efficacy of the tests supplied by the w.h.o. and had them tested on goats, papaya, sheep and motor oil all of which tested positive for covid. after these results magufuli threw the w.h.o. out of tanzania. he was reelected for a new 5 year term in 2020 which apparently was too much for global oligarchs to handle and he was heart attacked in march of this year, r.i.p.

    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
  133. nickels says:

    Worst flu I ever had.
    I survived it.
    My parents, in their 80s, survived it.
    Lockdowns are evil.

  134. @Anonymous

    Can you rephrase this comment as a 1000+ word rant about Satanic mind-control plots or something? I’m distressed by your brevity and common sense 😀

    • LOL: TheMoon
  135. gsjackson says:

    All credit to PCR for having the mental agility to change his mind on this, the most important subject of our time. Nothing less than millennia of acquired understandings about human health and human freedom are at stake.

  136. Tjoe says:
    @Liza

    Lisa….use the best antiviral, ethyl alcohol, by inhaling the vapors into your sinus and lungs. I used EverClear because it’s 95% pure.

    The virus protein layer is damaged and your own antibodies attack it. Put a few drops on a cloth and breath the vapors into the sinus and lungs….where the virus grows.

  137. @Franz

    Any advice around for those who have already had the jab due to workplace requirements, & etc., and who now wish to minimize their risks?

    My current list of Corona Virus “vaccine” mitigation scrategies have been lifted from the web.

    [MORE]

    Damage Caused and Mitigation for Corona Chan “Vaccines”
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/05/30/covid-19-vaccines-causing-damage.aspx

    Mitigate Damage from the Corona Chan “Vaccines” – Resveratrol
    https://www.resveratrolnews.com/resveratrol-and-covid-19-coronavirus/1983/

    Mitigate Damage from the Corona Chan “Vaccines”
    https://www.covidtruths.co.uk/2021/06/possible-ways-to-neutralise-spike-protein-damage-from-covid-vaccines/

    Mitigate Damage from the Corona Chan “Vaccines” – Pine Needle Tea
    https://thefreedomarticles.com/covid-vaccine-antidote-pine-needle-tea-suramin-inhibits-dna-rna-replication/
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-09-is-pine-needle-tea-the-answer-to-covid-vaccine-shedding-suramin-shikimic-acid.html

    Corona Chan “Vaccine” Mitigation – Dandelion Leaf Extract Blocks the Spike Protein
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-06-28-dandelion-leaf-extract-blocks-spike-proteins-binding-to-ace2-receptor.html

    Corona Chan “Vaccine” Pathology & Mitigation Strategies
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/07/joseph-mercola/might-covid-injections-reduce-lifespan/

    Another one to think about, which I haven’t seen mentioned so far on the web, is micronised Zeolite Clinoptilolite, which is a particular kind of Zeolite (mined from earth deposits) which is completely non-toxic, safe for ingestion and is used to chelate toxins and heavy metals from the body.

    The microscopic Zeolite Clinoptilolite particles have a cage structure with a net negative charge which captures toxins and other nasty stuff which have a net positive charge, and is then excreted from the body.

    It turns out that the Corona Chan “spike protein” has a net positive charge – a perfect candidate for chelation from the body by something like Zeolite Clinoptilolite.

    Zeolite Clinoptilolite is cheaply and readily available over the internet, and there’s a wealth of useful information published on it.

    I’m already stocked up on it, just in case our overlords suddenly decide that it’s far too dangerous for us to have (just like N-Acetyl Cysteine).

    Just as an afterthought, it also probably wouldn’y hurt to get hold of a supply of Ivermectin, as well as Vitamin C, Vitamin D and Zinc. All those things do a good job of killing Corona Chan (especially Ivermectin) so I’d wager they’d also interfere with whatever it is that the Corona Chan “Spike Protein” does to our bodies.

    • Replies: @Franz
  138. @John Johnson

    I’m not a fan of conclusions based solely on criticisms of the source. Still, I’ve never talked to a doctor who thinks highly of WebMD, but I’ve met many hypochondriacs who swear by it.

  139. This is an excellent article by PCR and I’m really glad to see people paying attention.
    But I don’t know where you’ve all been…..Ivor Cummins (The Fat Emperor) has analysed the details of this giant destructive farce with multiple posts since early 2020.

  140. @HCQ

    Is anecdotal evidence of a quarter century ago dispositive?

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  141. geokat62 says:
    @john cronk

    In 2009 the WHO changed the way a pandemic is defined…

    They changed it May 4, 2009, to be exact.

    Excerpt from, The Swine Flu Panic of 2009:

    According to the regulations, phase 6 becomes effective when a new virus is spreading uncontrollably in several regions of the world. The regulations say nothing about the severity of the disease.

    In fact, the vast majority of experts on epidemics automatically associate the term “pandemic” with truly aggressive viruses. On the WHO Web site, the answer to the question “What is a pandemic?” included mention of “an enormous number of deaths and cases of the disease” — until May 4, 2009. That was when a CNN reporter pointed out the discrepancy between this description and the generally mild course of the swine flu. The language was promptly removed…

    The situation on June 11, 2009 did not correspond with these descriptions. Critics were already asking derisively whether the WHO had any plans to declare the latest outbreak of the common cold a pandemic. “Sometimes some of us think that WHO stands for World Hysteria Organization,” says Richard Schabas, the former chief medical officer for Canada’s Ontario Province.

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/reconstruction-of-a-mass-hysteria-the-swine-flu-panic-of-2009-a-682613-amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

  142. @saggy

    So then, is any sentence beginning with “allegedly” a conspiracy theory or to be dismissed out of hand? The motorcycle anecdote was reported by Ron Paul on UNZ, but I have also seen it elsewhere. That does not mean it is true, but in the face of all the foolishness in media and by the governments I don’t see why it would be considered ridiculous. Hospitals were incentivized as well as being told to categorize everything as Covid. This type of thing, though this would be an extreme example, was reported by some of those charged with filling out death certificates.

    • Replies: @JoeFour
  143. Maddaugh says:
    @john cronk

    I stay away from all meat products. I am not a Doctor and certainly am not interested in debating anyone who is or who has written a book. Some additional thoughts on the subject though are:
    -if we eat meat to get protein, where do vegetarian animals we eat get their protein ?
    -our closest relatives in the animal world are the primates. What do they eat ? Leaves and fruits
    -its one thing to eat meat every day from animals that are poisoned and from a processing plant that is also toxic
    -its another to eat bush meat. The difference is immediately noticeable
    -its one thing to DRIVE to the supermarket and buy a 16 oz steak from God know which cow
    -its another thing to chase an animal for hours, lug it back sometimes 25 miles and have to share it with 10 other people.
    -its one thing to eat steak every day and sit on the couch and another to chase it through the bush and be lucky to eat once every few days.
    -medicines and cures are derived from plants not meats.

    I think one must also remember that there is the human tendency to efficiency and conservation of energy. An apple does not require hours of stalking and running. The effort our ancient ancestors put out to get a meal was incredible. One need only look at the lean hard physiques of tribal people and the 200 pound guts of folks of today to see how far we have declined as a species.

    As such, I eat what gives me enormous energy, clarity of thought, clear skin, no cavities, blood pressure of 70/ 110, weight at the lower end of the BMI and no glasses and a host of other health benefits. If other people want to follow this and that diet they are free to do so. Personally I do not have much faith in Doctors so I am naturally inclined to dismiss their advice whether oral or written as unrealistic.

    Many of these diets have gone through the Fad phase and ultimately proven extremely dangerous and discarded. To each his own I say. I’ll stick with what works for me and ignore the “experts”, Other must do what they think best but personally I’ll pass on the carnivore thing.

    • Replies: @john cronk
  144. @John Johnson

    WebMD? The Snopes of medicine? My daughter is a physician and says WebMD is trash. Why not cite Fauci if you want real credibility??

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  145. Thanks, Dr Roberts, for a valuable review, most commentators for useful contributions and Ron Unz for publishing.

    Like others here, I’ve sent this on to those who will appreciate it.
    And yes, that did involve discrimination because it’s a sad truth that there are those who are incapable of independent thought so this discussion would be wasted on them.

    Respect to recent Presidents of Tanzania, Burundi, Haiti.
    R.I.P.

  146. Strange new channel, inflammatory name, shocking content. Daszak admits development of lab virus. No chance YouTube would allow this.

    https://odysee.com/@Rabbi_McGoyim:3/FATAL_DISTRACTION:6

  147. romagnol says:

    No, the virus is NOT real, if we mean it is an Exogenous Germ which invaded us from outside in nature. All these patents relate to laboratory monsters where Proteins are the killers. NO virus germ has ever been isolated in accordance with Koch’s postulates. Covid vaccine killer is the s0-called spike protein, no virus needed. Lots of ways to kill people but you can’t patent nature, so all the patents Martin has traced relate to lab monsters. So this has all been biowarfare as Martin describes. I commend PCR, but he has always believed in exogenous viruses, and we will never solve our problems unless we disabuse ourselves of that idea. Mikovits sums this up by saying that no one should ever take a vaccine. Yes, they are all bioweapons.

    • Agree: JasonT
  148. Roberts seems to have a complete, accurate grasp of the situation. Carping complaints about minor misconceptions immaterial to the entire story do not alter the fact that the danger of fascism is serious, as is the danger of the so-called vaccines. The fact that the disease could have been handled by Ivermectin and HCQ makes the entire initiative a crime against humanity. I am against the death penalty with one exception: those guilty of crimes against humanity. Fauci, perhaps the patenter of the entire thing itself, deserves a fate like Mussolini: after a major international trial, he should be hung upside down and beaten to death. I know this deviates from normal procedure, but the scope of this crime is beyond normal.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  149. @Sick of Orcs

    This is an interesting point. I can offer one small example of supporting evidence.

    I was living in Chicago when this whole situation began unfolding. I remember that very early on — probably no later than the end of April 2020 — professionally printed signs urging “social distancing” appearing on bus stop shelters and other places people might tend to gather.

    This got me wondering how these signs could have been planned, authorized, designed, approved, printed, distributed, posted, etc., in such short order by a bureaucracy not known for its efficiency.

    • Thanks: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    , @Skeptikal
  150. Thomasina says:
    @frankie p

    Apparently everyone in malaria-infected Africa takes their prophylactic pills on Sunday. An article I recently read said there is a specific name given for the day: “______ Sunday”. Sorry, I can’t remember what the “blank” was, but maybe somebody else can fill in the blank for us.

    I read the same thing re Lupus treatments. There was also another medication people were taking (I believe it was asthma-related), and these people weren’t getting sick either. I’ve written it down somewhere; I’ll try to find it.

    • Replies: @the fat controller
  151. JoeFour says:
    @saggy

    This happened in Florida — young man who was killed in a motorcycle crash was listed as a Covid death.

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/data-analytics/florida-covid-19-fatalities-data-included-man-who-died-in-motorcycle-accident.html

    • Thanks: Kali
  152. @My SIMPLE Pseudonymic Handle

    I take it that you have never been to China recently. So before you go any further with your rant about communism and etc, let me tell you that the facts on the ground dispute your claims about them.

    China has better economic outlook than most countries, especially here in US. They have more millionaires than any other country and have higher standard of living, better life expectancy and other life indices than most western countries. Their infrastructure is far ahead of the rest of the world and are on their way, if not already, to become number one economy in the world. How is that for “communism”?

    These facts are indisputable and not subject to one’s boogeyman perception created by the very same elite you are ranting about.

    China realized long ago that in order to hold their power they can hide behind communism and continue their reign, however, usher in a controlled and regulated state capitalism, minimize corruption and live and let live philosophy, that keeps everyone happy. And, the masses are not slaves but a unified nation with a strong nationalistic fervor to become the best and most powerful through economic power, not the tip of a spear.

    As far as the elite is concern, barring an organized revolution, they will keep on sticking it to you and me without lubrication and will make sure that it hurts. All of your macho fantasies about abolishing them is just that. A fantasy.

    My advice to you is try to learn mandarin or Vietnamese and move to china, or Viet Nam, and live in peace and security. US and Europe days are numbered and are a lost cause. And the sheep will remain sheep.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @The_seventh_shape
    , @Sisifo
  153. @Aspiring Wrapper

    Adding to your observation, there was indeed a disturbing uniformity to the #covidhoax rollout. More-naturally rebellious elements and places seemed strangely mute, and while it never took much to sway spineless, #notaleaderTrump, his contrarian impulse was nonexistent.

  154. Agent76 says:

    May 18, 2020 Dr. Fauci Predicted a Pandemic Under Trump in 2017

    There will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases.’ — Watch Dr. Anthony Fauci predict a pandemic under the Trump admin back in 2017.

  155. frontier says:
    @Anonymous

    How do you know the virus is real? What proof do you have?
    The virus is real, it’s a strain of one that has been known for a long time, there’s no argument about this. One can question the mortality rate or infection capacity or its genome… but why do it? You don’t need a proof to discuss the insane handling of this pandemic and the deep corruption it reveled in a variety of institutions, not only healthcare related. It doesn’t really matter if the virus is real, because the handling of it is very real. Even without a poof, everything PCR (the person) wrote still holds.

    Great article by the way, an outstanding summary of everything that is wrong with this pandemic.

  156. Thank goodness Ron Unz is at least able to do the right thing and post Paul Craig Robert’s article here.

    @RonUnz – are you able to absorb all the truth here and get off your ZOG/CCP dialectic?

    Globalists hate us Ron. Globalists are highly Talmudic. Maybe you need to explore how far the Talmud extends its control over globalists?

    Stop being a goddamn zombie for the Talmudic Globalists.

    Stop defending sociopathic scum like Fauci and Gates.

    Come on Ron, you can do it! We’re all pulling for you!

    • Replies: @utu
  157. Skeptikal says:
    @Dumbo

    She looks like she might be overweight. And a long-standing precondition.

    Of course there are millions like her in the USA. Risks from both covid19 and the jabs are probably greater for that group.

  158. Nancy says:
    @saggy

    Well WA state is correcting these deaths misattributed to Covid19. This was a year ago, and I’ve read more recent reports of the same corrections. Maybe all reports of Covid19 deaths should start with ‘allegedly’… imagine how many states, health depts, etc, etc will gladly overlook and not revisit or question the numbers/medical reports. (I don’t have the time to research for the gullible.)
    https://www.ifiberone.com/news/regional_news/washington-removes-seven-covid-19-deaths-including-three-homicides/article_c97d0bb6-b195-11ea-b7ae-7fc0d6213240.html

  159. thank you, mr. roberts for opening comments.

    i only hope we can pass the PCR test ;+)

    (i’ve been waiting months to say that!)

    • LOL: Kapyong
  160. romagnol says:
    @John Johnson

    No, it does not exist as an isolate. All the published sequences are computer composites using laboratory gunk garbage (snot, body fluids, vero cells, bovine serum, etc) which has been poisoned with antibiotics and food deprivation which triggers dead and decaying cells construed as viruses, with nothing from actual isolates used. Virologist Stefan Lanka just used the control test where he found that the poisoned lab gunk to which NO putative viral specimens (snot, body fluids) were added created the same “viral” specimens. So same “viruses” whether or not any body fluids used. All fraud, period.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  161. Nancy says:
    @Realist

    Says who? Got something in your pocket? ‘Should’ can be a tricky word : )

  162. Skeptikal says:
    @MLK

    “One of the digs on theories of conspiracy is that all conspirators must share the same objective(s) and motivations. In a word, nonsense. Indeed, if the stakes are high enough, both carrot and stick, the coalition of the willing and unwilling practically coalesces and maintains itself.”

    Good point! Just as politics makes strange bedfellows, so do conspiracies—a form of politics, after all. Just without the trimmings. Politics is about who gets power.
    That is also what conspiracies are about—grabbing power without dotting all the i’s.

    Ever heard of a falling out among thieves?

    There could also be fallings out among conspirators. Some are undoubted in for the long game—others for the short game.

    Since Big Pharma shareholders are focused only on the next quarter’s earnings, I expect many Big Pharma are in it for the relative short term—even as they seek to ensure their income stream from the state of permanent covid emergency and ongoing boosters and other results of “pandemic planning” for, say, the next ten years. Big Pharma needs the money for shareholders. (BTW, “pandemic planning” sounds a heck of a lot like Biden’s “voting fraud team.”)

    Other players who have made themselves visible don’t need the money, as many have pointed out.

    The power-hungry “visionaries” of various stripes are surely in it for the longer term, depending what their “vision” is. If the eugenicists succeed in significantly lowering (and improving?) the world pop, what need would they have of Big Pharma? After ditching humans they could also then ditch Big Pharma.

    If the AI transhumanist visionaries are still left standing, they can ditch everyone!!

    There are multiple agendas in the mix, that is for sure.

    So I am indulging in a bit of speculation as to how the “loyalties” among thieves might play out.

  163. tyrone says:
    @frankie p

    ” I didn’t know that Tanzania and other African countries used HCQ as a prophylactic against malaria. “………that’s right ,and the “media” is working day and night to keep you from knowing…..thank you Mr. Roberts!

    • Agree: frankie p
    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  164. G. Poulin says:
    @Anonymous

    Hm…. I just looked at the ingredients on my bottle of tonic water (purchased for mixing with booze), and it says : carbonated water, organic agave, citric acid, quinine, natural flavors. Maybe it depends on the brand?

    • Agree: Emslander
  165. tyrone says:
    @Kali

    Paul Craig Roberts : a national treasure!

    • Replies: @Kali
  166. Emslander says:
    @John Johnson

    99% of how many hospitalizations? 3?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  167. @Alfred

    That is certainly different from everywhere else. Do you really trust it? And how old were these “unvaccinated” who died?

    What is different? There are endless articles on how the hospitals are filled with the unvaccinated.

    You can find plenty at the state level:

    Utah
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/07/13/utah-hospitals-are/

    Florida
    https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/majority-of-covid-patients-jacksonville-not-vaccinated/77-68f92b39-8dc6-4040-8cda-86c77b4d687f

    Tennessee
    https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2021/07/09/memphis-doctor-seeing-more-vaccinated-people-admitted-into-hospitals/

    So for a conspiracy to exist you would have to explain how all these ER doctors are actually lying.

    I am 71, I am far more concerned about becoming incapacitated.

    You are far more likely to join the ranks of the unvaccinated in hospitals than get myocarditis from the vaccine.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  168. Whitewolf says:

    The virus is real. It is a danger to people with poor immune systems and to those with co-morbidities.

    So is the cold or flu. Should we go close down society everytime someone gets a cold or flu to protect people with poor immune systems or co-morbidities?

    • Agree: john cronk
    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  169. @romagnol

    No, it does not exist as an isolate. All the published sequences are computer composites using laboratory gunk garbage (snot, body fluids, vero cells, bovine serum, etc) which has been poisoned with antibiotics and food deprivation which triggers dead and decaying cells construed as viruses, with nothing from actual isolates used.

    So the states aren’t actually submitting sequences to the cdc? They are all just pretending to?

    Is the Delta variant a fabrication?

  170. Ktulu says:
    @Alfred

    This is actually good advice although I personally would like to see a lot more citations and here opinions from more doctors before I go eating a bunch of supplements. It’s a good start I guess.

  171. @Whitewolf

    But we didn’t close down society, Chicken Little.

    I’m sorry you missed your weekly visits to the opera.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  172. aj54 says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    not a hoax, a preplanned release. The response was also preplanned.

    • Agree: tyrone
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  173. @John Johnson

    Covid-19 is a scam and a psyop, Event 201 was held in October 2019 sponsored by the Gates and Rockefeller Foundations and they laid it all out on what they had planned and they rolled it out world wide, covid-19 is a planned-demic and it is destroying the world.

    I suspect you are involved in this scam and psyop as you are a quite involved in destroying the truth about this scam and psyop.

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @Baron
    , @DaveE
  174. geokat62 says:
    @Bro43rd

    Tiporelly?

    Misspelled… s/b Tipperary.

    From the song, It’s a Long Way to Tipperary

    Lyrics:

    [MORE]

    Up to mighty London came
    An Irish lad one day
    All the streets were paved with gold
    So everyone was gay!
    Singing songs of Piccadilly
    Strand, and Leicester Square
    ‘Til Paddy got excited and
    He shouted to them there:
    It’s a long way to Tipperary
    It’s a long way to go
    It’s a long way to Tipperary
    To the sweetest girl I know!
    Goodbye Piccadilly
    Farewell Leicester Square!
    It’s a long long way to Tipperary
    But my heart’s right there
    Paddy wrote a letter
    To his Irish Molly O’
    Saying, “Should you not receive it
    Write and let me know!
    If I make mistakes in “spelling”
    Molly dear”, said he
    “Remember it’s the pen, that’s bad
    Don’t lay the blame on me”
    It’s a long way to Tipperary
    It’s a long way to go
    It’s a long way to Tipperary
    To the sweetest girl I know!
    Goodbye Piccadilly
    Farewell Leicester Square
    It’s a long long way to Tipperary
    But my heart’s right there
    Molly wrote a neat reply
    To Irish Paddy O’
    Saying, “Mike Maloney wants
    To marry me, and so
    Leave the Strand and Piccadilly
    Or you’ll be to blame
    For love has fairly drove me silly
    Hoping you’re the same!”
    It’s a long way to Tipperary
    It’s a long way to go
    It’s a long way to Tipperary
    To the sweetest girl I know!
    Goodbye Piccadilly
    Farewell Leicester Square
    It’s a long long way to Tipperary
    But my heart’s right there

  175. @John Johnson

    The Delta variant isn’t a fabrication – it being dangerous is (one more) fabrication.
    It’s a natural variant, and like most natural variants, it’s no more dangerous than the other one.
    A large proportion of the people with covid infection in India have the Delta variant.

  176. @Emslander

    99% of how many hospitalizations? 3?

    Well let’s read the article together since you and the other followers of Dr. Roberts (who is not a medical doctor and does specify his educational background) are having a hard time with this.

    At UF Health Jacksonville, there are 76 coronavirus patients being treated. A spokesperson says 18 of those patients are in the Intensive Care Unit and the majority have not been vaccinated.
    https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/majority-of-covid-patients-jacksonville-not-vaccinated/77-68f92b39-8dc6-4040-8cda-86c77b4d687f

    So at one hospital they have 76 inpatients and 18 in the ICU. Easily a million in treatment costs.

    The virus is real and the vaccine works. Denying it at this point is completely ridiculous.

    A lot of people here need to man up and get the shot. A real man admits when he is wrong.

    Trump funded these vaccines and they work.

    • LOL: Polemos
  177. Josh Kenn says:

    PCR proves that some boomers are capable of escaping a lot of their brainwashing.

  178. What is the End Game? Why design such a pitifully weak virus (99.95% Survivability Rate) if it were indeed designed to kill off humanity???? Is this a plot to depopulate the world? Or is this just a handful of shitheads, once again, figuring out a way to profit off of calamities?

    Every working-age American Citizen gets on his/her hamster wheel each day. The only thing still free in this world is the air we breathe. Everything else has been commoditized, with each American citizen being an integral part of a complex economic engine. Why kill that engine that generates so much revenue for the small hats? It makes no sense.

    Is the man-made virus a boon to the Pharmaceutical industry??? Could this COVID strain be a new enemy to fight; a never-ending enemy? And a never-ending income stream for Big Pharma??

    Was the manufactured terror of 9/11 not a boon to the Military-Industrial Complex….after the Cold War came to a crashing halt with the fall of Russia in the early 1990s???? The funding dried up for the US Military….murmurs of base closures (The Pentagon stated in 2013 that there are “around” 5,000 bases total, with “around” 600 of them overseas). Damn cold war…what a farce. A new “sustainable” enemy had to be invented. A war that will be fought for the next 500 years.

    Billions of dollars are pumped into the DOD, FBI, NSA, DOJ, CIA…etc, each year…to fight “The War on Terror”. If Terrorism was “manufactured”…then what exactly are these agencies doing??? Has anyone noticed that these agencies are now targeting American Citizens (Domestic Terrorism). They have all this budget and need to produce results. The targets change to justify funding.

    Is human population growth sustainable? Nope.
    Is Peak Oil Real? Yeap.
    Are we consuming all of our finite resources? Yeap.
    Are the seas emptying of fish? Yeap.
    Do the Chinese kill and eat millions of dogs each year? Yeap.
    Will Americans ever start eating dogs? Yeap.
    Are Pigs more intelligent than dogs, yet we slaughter and eat them? Yeap.
    Will we be eating insects in the future? Yeap.

    Every species must reach equilibrium. There will be a gigantic reset. It is inevitable. Human population growth is unsustainable. For the good of this earth and the survival of our species, Billions must be culled. Birth rates must be controlled. China experienced forced sterilization. It can happen in America. 20 Million or so were intentionally starved to death in Russia during the Holomodor. It can happen here too.

    Buckle-Up….All Empires will wage brutal wars for the last remaining resources. We will invade and slaughter, steal and plunder all countries unable to defend themselves. Of course, it will be under the guise of “Clash of Civilizations” or “Nuclear Deterrence” or a “Holy War”, or “Liberating the People of a Communist Regime”, “Bringing Democracy to the Masses”. Rest easy, our historians will sanitize all attrocities.

    I think Genetic Engineering will take a gigantic leap forward in the next ten years and whole populations of people will be targeted for elimination. Gene Engines will sterilize entire races. Mosquitos and the semen of the infected will be used to sterilize an entire continent. Imagine all of a sudden…every black woman on the continent of Africa realizes they are infertile? What would a country do know they have only one generation to live? Shit is gonna get real. Our technology advancements will far outpace our collective ethics.

  179. Getaclue says:
    @Anonymous

    Some do actually — depends on the brand. No doubt this person made sure the one they gave their friend had it–be a bit stupid not to do so….

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  180. romagnol says:
    @John Johnson

    Correct, these are not sequences from any isolated corona virus. There are “libraries” of computer assisted gene sequences from which these putative covid sequences were concocted, some from “prior” corona sequences which in their own turn were never isolated. Basically we have computer simulations as, again, no actual virus has ever been ISOLATED.

    Delta variant is pure fiction. It is just a social engineering program, for numerous nasty purposes.

  181. TheMoon says:
    @bluestarfire

    To be fair, he did say some think it was just the flu.

  182. TheMoon says:
    @Dystopian

    What do you think would happen if the sun went out?

    The government and the media (but I repeat myself) would blame Trump and white supremacists.

  183. Getaclue says:
    @Tsar Nicholas

    Putin is still a Communist, he doesn’t even really hide it though he throws out disinformation comments — those who think he is a “Christian” are delusional.

    The Berlin “Wall” came down but there were no celebrations in Russa? Why? Because there was no actual change there — there was nothing to celebrate. Gorbachev has even said that they were just going to use the “Green” agenda and other means to achieve world domination — which has happened– the

    Globalists are NWO thugs for this agenda. Likewise, this deception gave Russia and China access to USA Technology and elsewhere so their Nuclear capabilities that were then outgunned by the USA are not now, Russia is now in a superior position as to using Nukes against the USA….Russia and China will be joining forces against the West — the West has allowed itself to be infiltrated and destroyed internally (everything is RAYCISSSS) and Communists now are allowed to burn down Cities (BLM) and operate in Congress and the Military without any pushback….The plan has worked perfectly, just because most in the USA are clueless doesn’t make something stop existing….:

    https://thecontemplativeobserver.wordpress.com/tag/the-perestroika-deception/

    This writer in this blog lays it all out very nicely — anyone not expecting WW3 with Russia and China in the very near future is living in a dream world — that would include most in the USA Government and Military: https://jrnyquist.blog/

    • Troll: frontier
  184. utu says:
    @I'm Goygeous

    Thank goodness Ron Unz is at least able to do the right thing and post Paul Craig Robert’s article here.

    This is a calculate strategy of poisoning the well by surrounding his American Pravda series with all kinds of kooks like here exemplified by Paul Craig Robert, so his series of articles including the most recent on the bioweapon attack against China are not taken seriously by anybody who matters. It is de facto a preemptive insanity defense.

    It should be clear to anybody that Ron Unz’s TUR descended to the level of Gordon Duff’s VT. Here is what allegedly Gordon Duff said about his VT site:

    “About 30% of what’s on Veterans Today is patently false. About 40% of what I write is at least purposefully partially false. Because if I didn’t write false information I wouldn’t be alive. I simply have to do that.”

    Just like VT Ron Unz’ webzine is anti-American, anti-Semitic, pro-Kremlin and pro-China with lots of garbage like this PCR article which might be the most important part of the site’s propaganda objectives which would be sowing chaos and disinformation to make people even more stupid than they already are, so they remain helpless and in despair. The site offers a solace to the desperate by giving them a sense of not being alone, so they coalesce around the site with sense of doom and gloom that is further amplified and in the end of the tunnel there is a sliver of hope offered in the faint figures of Col. Putin and Gensek Xi as possible saviors to humanity.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain, Tjoe
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Levtraro
    , @Polemos
  185. Getaclue says:
    @Johnny Rico

    “But we didn’t close down society, Chicken Little.” — you have zero credibility with anyone not a moron.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  186. frontier says:
    @JasonT

    A virus is a package of polynucleic acids and protein covered in lipid. It is not ‘living’ but is said to replicate inside a cell using the cellular machinery of the cell.

    OK, thanks for clearing that up, so viruses do exist.

    How does one know whether the isolated ‘viruses’ are such things or whether they are simply products of cell death?

    By observing that some cells exhibit “such things” and other cells don’t. Then by observing that “such things” are transmittable, replicatable and the immune system doesn’t recognize them as parts of the body. That’s a virus and it doesn’t matter if you think of it as “not living”, the important part is, it can transmit the “not living” thing to you…

    • Replies: @JasonT
  187. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The earth rotates on a tilted axis, which is why the Sahara turns green every 20,000 years.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  188. @Mike Fridelle

    Just remember, you asked.

    What is the End Game?

    Picture a boot, stepping on a human face, forever.
    And creepy Bill smiling at you from every TV screen around the world, forever.

    Why design such a pitifully weak virus (99.95% Survivability Rate) if it were indeed designed to kill off humanity????

    Because it’s not – it’s just the gateway to inject every person on the planet with the “vaccines”.
    A work of genius – a comprehensive plan of technocratic control that once achieved, is inescapable.

    Is this a plot to depopulate the world?

    Sure looks like it – but maybe just 95% of the lemmings.
    Hey, a 1 in 20 chance is better than the lottery.

    Or is this just a handful of shitheads, once again, figuring out a way to profit off of calamities?

    That too, but they’re just the bit players, in the same league as the warmongering Neocons – they’re all being played by creepy Bill and Uncle Klaus, who this time are going for the big prize, the whole frigging planet, forever.

    [MORE]

    Meanwhile, you just had to ask…

    Is human population growth sustainable? Nope.

    Yeah it is. If we expand our horizons to Mars and beyond.
    And don’t forget those thousands of miles of unoccupied space beneath our feet.

    Is Peak Oil Real? Yeap.

    Only in the sense that the rate we can suck it out of the ground is limited.
    Wells which were thought to be sucked dry strangely keep on refilling – from below.

    Are we consuming all of our finite resources? Yeap.

    But there’s plenty more out there to be found.
    And energy is literally limitless (but that’s verbotten – just run a seance and ask Dr. John Adams or John Bedini).

    Are the seas emptying of fish? Yeap.

    You got me there.
    Maybe we need to find a water world.

    Do the Chinese kill and eat millions of dogs each year? Yeap.

    Do the Americans and Russians kill and eat millions of fried chickens every year? Yeap.

    Will Americans ever start eating dogs? Yeap.

    Holy shit.

    Are Pigs more intelligent than dogs, yet we slaughter and eat them? Yeap.

    Are pigs more intelligent than horses, yet we don’t slaughter and eat horses?
    Yeah we do, but we mostly feed the horses to our cats and dogs (who also better watch out).

    Will we be eating insects in the future? Yeap.

    Ever been to an Aussie barbie in the middle of summer?

    None of any of that is anywhere near as bad as the prospect of being creepy Bill’s and Uncle Klaus’ slaves, from now until doomsday.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  189. Skeptikal says:
    @Ray Caruso

    What Is Pneumonia? – Symptoms, Causes & Risk Factor
    Ad·http://www.lung.org/

    Pneumonia Is A Common Lung Infection Caused By Germs And Often Flu Complications. Pneumonia, Commonly A Complication Of A Respiratory Infection, Has 5 Main Causes.

    Overview

    Pneumonia is an infection that inflames the air sacs in one or both lungs. The air sacs may fill with fluid or pus (purulent material), causing cough with phlegm or pus, fever, chills, and difficulty breathing. A variety of organisms, including bacteria, viruses and fungi, can cause pneumonia.

    Pneumonia can range in seriousness from mild to life-threatening. It is most serious for infants and young children, people older than age 65, and people with health problems or weakened immune systems.

    Symptoms

    The signs and symptoms of pneumonia vary from mild to severe, depending on factors such as the type of germ causing the infection, and your age and overall health. Mild signs and symptoms often are similar to those of a cold or flu, but they last longer.

    Signs and symptoms of pneumonia may include:

    Chest pain when you breathe or cough
    Confusion or changes in mental awareness (in adults age 65 and older)
    Cough, which may produce phlegm
    Fatigue
    Fever, sweating and shaking chills
    Lower than normal body temperature (in adults older than age 65 and people with weak immune systems)
    Nausea, vomiting or diarrhea
    Shortness of breath
    More useful info here:
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pneumonia/symptoms-causes/syc-20354204
    +++++++++++++
    Any cold or flu can progress to pneumonia.
    Especially in vulnerable individuals.
    Regardless of the cause, any pneumonia must be treated immediately.
    Pneumonia is a very dangerous condition and we have always lost some people to it every year.

    Long before covid came along.
    The idea of not treating covid-pneumonia immediately is medical negligence of the first order.

    • Replies: @Tjoe
  190. Anzelo says:
    @Alfred

    Pray! Pray and fight, better both the same time! I dont know how much time we have. Also dont get any more vaccine, not even regular ones, they may try to switch those to death jab. Nasty boys 🙂

  191. @Kumbaresu

    Anybody, who thinks that Putin is any better than Biden, is delusional.

    I think Russia could do a lot worse than Putin. He seems to have put the country on a positive trajectory compared to the Yeltsin days, and Russians in general are probably way better off thanks to him and his administration.

    And the world is probably just a wee bit safer.

    I’m not sure that one could say the same about Biden – so far things aren’t looking good, but I guess it’s early days yet.

    All of them are rotten to the core.

    That certainly applies to the Australian political class – the Corona Chan “pandemic” has brought that inconvenient reality into sharp focus.

    • Agree: Miro23, InnerCynic
  192. Skeptikal says:
    @Aspiring Wrapper

    I too wondered where all the printed sigEven the little “mask up” signs.
    Seems like the graphics were all ready to go.

    Including the “mask up” signs.

    The “Protect others; Protect yourself”

    All of this propaganda was in the pipeline and ready to be rolled out.

    Everywhere you looked, printed signs.

    Supermarket
    Post Office
    Transportation hubs and buses, etc.
    Public pathways and bikeways

    Effing everywhere. WTF? It might be interesting to interview some local printers and find out what the orders looked like that they got.

  193. Anzelo says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    This is like nightmare. My head hurts reading you. Please just stop. You do not deserve even a keyboard. Unbelievable retard…

    • Replies: @Emslander
  194. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/variant-warning-scientist-urged-to-pay-extra-surveillance-to-emerging-third-and-fourth-generation-variants-of-the-delta,-gamma-and-lambda-strains

    Variant Warning: Scientist Urged To Pay Extra Surveillance To Emerging Third and Fourth Generation Variants Of the Delta, Gamma And Lambda Strains
    Source: SARS-CoV-2 Variants Jul 15, 2021 2 days ago
    Thailand Medical News is warning scientists, medical researches, genomic experts and virologist to pay careful attention to the second, third and fourth generation variants emerging from the Delta, Gamma and Lambda lineages

    Currently the world is too engrossed simply on the VOCs or variants of concern and also vaccines but very little is focused on the emerging second, third and fourth generation variants of the Delta, Gamma and Lambda strains as many are simply assuming that the mutations taking place on these new variants are too minute or subtle to have any impact.

    In reality the chances of a completely new super Omega variant emerging is lesser compared to a super strain emerging from the Delta, Gamma or Lambda variants.

    [..]

    If one was to carefully study all the emerging variants spotting new mutations that could be of concern (More than a thirty-eight so far in the last 5 months alone although many have not grown in circulation dominance) it can be seen that the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is aggressively evolving to become more transmissible and virulent contrary to comments by ignorant so called virologists claiming that the virus will ultimately weaken and die off! We must not also forget all the stupid virologist and experts in the beginning of the pandemic who made media comments that the virus was not mutating nor will it become more concerning ie more transmissible or even be able to evade immunity. We will be posting up a list of all these so called Western experts and the comments they made in the media soon as a reminder that people who are ignorant should not be making public comments despite they might hold some qualifications or positions!

    Without any intention of causing undue panic, the emerging second, third and fourth generation variants are expected to cause more ongoing infection surges despite the presence of the COVID-19 vaccines and the pandemic is expected to be ongoing for the next few years. The intensity of casualties and infection rates are expected to increase with every new surge until a super variant finally emerges that will help eradicate a sizeable amount of the human population unless an effective combination of antiviral therapeutics are identified or developed or accepted in time.

    • LOL: Alfred
  195. geokat62 says:
    @Ultrafart the brave

    None of any of that is anywhere near as bad as the prospect of being creepy Bill’s and Uncle Klaus’ slaves, from now until doomsday.

    Need to ascend a few levels higher to identify the real culprits.

    https://www.brighteon.com/ae1936f9-42af-4183-807e-3c6c6ebfa026

    Harry Vox: Gates Blackmailed?

    Is he perpetrating this genocidal COVID scam for profit or is Bill Gates being blackmailed by US/Israeli intelligence. Gates’ secretive relationship and multiple visits to Jeffrey Epstein’s Pedophile blackmailing operation gives us a mountain of undeniable evidence to focus on.

    https://www.redpilldocumentaries.com/2021/05/13/bill-gates-blackmailed/

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the brave
  196. Rubicon says:
    @The Alarmist

    FACT: VAERS is politically, financially corrupt. They are documenting a scant few deaths from the Vaccines.

    Dr. McCullough, a renowned cardiologist from Texas, who has been seen a number of times online, found a “Whistleblower” from the CDC. In the conversation, THAT whistleblower stated that 50,000 Americans have DIED from the various vaccines.

    You can find out more from Dr. Paul Craig Roberts’ friend: Stephan Lendman. Look for his website.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @The Alarmist
  197. Maddaugh says:
    @Dystopian

    Good question and I will answer if you will permit. The sun went out for Mulga a long time ago. Doctors peering into his ears would see nothing but darkness, a dark hole so to speak right here on earth. Stephen Hocking would be mystified and be given a science award for such a discovery outshining (no pun intended) even good old Einstein.

    E=MC2 would have a new application and definition where E= Emptiness, M= Mulga and C=Cranium

    Its the old saw modified somewhat. There are no cables running to the top floor and no bulb. Given that Mulga is Chinese and lives in China, there ain’t even an old Chinese lantern therein. There may be some bats and cobwebs but that’s it.

    So you see, emanating from the darkness of his empty head comes all the nonsense, gibberish and balderdash he spouts non stop on UR. I think this is what he means when he insinuates the sun is irrelevant, at least I think that is what he means but who am I to presume for an idiot.

    What Mulga touts and pimps as intelligence is a mystery to the majority on this site and simple minded specimens like him are best ignored.

    • LOL: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  198. Miro23 says:
    @Rubicon

    Just from people I know – one died 2 days after vaccination ( old but active and fit – Spain), another went directly into emergency for heart surgery (Switzerland) – and another (25 years old) went blind for 11 days (Austria).

  199. @JasonT

    Anthropogenic? No way, we hadn’t even been invented yet. Dinosaurogenic!

  200. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    It should be clear to anybody that Ron Unz’s TUR descended to the level of Gordon Duff’s VT. Here is what allegedly Gordon Duff said about his VT site:

    “…About 40% of what I write is at least purposefully partially false. Because if I didn’t write false information I wouldn’t be alive. I simply have to do that.”

    I don’t think that’s a fair appraisal. As stated in our masthead and elsewhere, this is an “alternative media” website, with the mission-statement of providing “Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media.” If we’ve been conforming to that unchanging mission-statement since day-one, I can’t see why you or anyone else can object to that.

    In the extended FAQ, I explicitly emphasized that The Review does not stand behind any or all of the controversial content we publish, especially since so many of the pieces directly contradict each other.

    https://www.unz.com/masthead/#frequently-asked-questions-faq

    The one major exception is that I absolutely do stand behind virtually everything I’ve written myself, going back more than twenty-five years. So while that Gordon Duff fellow you quote boasts that at least 40% of everything he writes is deliberately false, I can say that absolutely 100% of everything I write is intended to be correct and true, though unfortunately it’s very possible that I may sometimes be mistaken.

    Over the last few days I’d gotten very irritated with the horde of fanatic anti-vaxxers who were cluttering up the comment-thread of my own article with their off-topic nonsense, so I shooed them away, saying they should save their comments for relevant articles. Fortunately, PCR almost immediately released a perfect example of such an article, so I was very glad to feature it and give them exactly that opportunity.

    How can an alternative-media webzine reasonably avoid running alternative perspective articles?

  201. @Rubicon

    I’m aware how flawed VAERS, but it is, at least for the time being, an official source. Note how reports slowed down dramatically once it became clear how bad the vaxxes are, yet they are still ticking up dramatically. It won’t be long before TPTB take down VAERS, climing that individuals are stuffing it with “fake news” reports.

  202. @John Johnson

    So at one hospital they have 76 inpatients and 18 in the ICU.

    Care to guess what percentage of that group were offered an early treatment option, with HCQ, Ivermectin or Vitamin D?

    • Thanks: Nancy
  203. @Nancy

    Thanks for asking. You’ll notice the date, Feb 2020, first week. Covid was neither being covered in the MSM or acknowledged to be in this country at that time. I knew of it happening in China then because of another website I follow but, not here.

    Details: I awoke at 2:00 AM with every joint and muscle in my body intensely aching, was coughing a constant dry cough, felt a little feverish, realized I was likely developing a flu. But, my breathing became more labored and I had a raised 2-inch diameter on my abdomen that I kept scratching. Got up to see what that was and was astonished to see my face in the mirror. My whole under chin, lower face and lips were very swollen and when I spoke, it wasn’t my voice. Holy cow, what? The raised rash was perplexing but, as it became harder to breath is when I got more concerned. At 5:00 AM, I’m searching online for an emergency place and trying to decide if I can wait til my regular Doc’s practice opens at 7:30 AM or will my throat be closed by then!

    Waited and saw first available Doc, he was convinced I had strep throat – which I doubted and have never had in my life – but he was so sure. Showed him the rash, he didn’t know what to make of it, told me to take Benadryl for it and antibiotics for the strep (I did feel like he scurried out of the room rather quickly, which was odd). I got the antibiotic script filled but, still doubted it was that. Two tests proved him wrong about strep. I’d taken two pills, then stopped.

    I went down harder than ever in my life. Not kidding when I tell you that other than 2 or 3 fifteen min awakenings to go to the restroom, let the dog out and nibble a few crackers/drink water – I slept for 30 hours straight!! I had to check all three – phone, computer and TV to convince myself what day it was when I finally awoke! By then, the rash was in massive patches and roved all over my abdomen, buttocks and thighs. What was that?!

    Made an appt with dermatologist for 2.5 days later and the morning of the appt the rash was about 70% diminished and by the time I saw the Doc 3 hours later it was entirely gone, nothing for her to see at all. She had no idea what I had.

    Recovery was slow with waves of debilitating fatigue that totally stopped me in my tracks and that deep, crackling cough and with lungs that felt heavyish. It was 3 weeks before I felt mostly normal and at about 4 to 5 weeks I realized I just wasn’t totally myself still so, I decided to take the other 6 days worth of the antibiotics I had. I DID feel noticeable improvement after that; I’m sure they helped (don’t recall the brand or dosage).

    To ultimately answer you, I basically nursed myself back to health w/o specific medical intervention. I do think both the Benadryl and antibiotics helped. But, the viral-type fatigue waves and horrible coughing continued for 7 months.

    Contrast that with July 4th week, this year, when I believe I had a bout of traditional flu. Muscle aches, tiredness, some coughing – that’s all and over in 5 days. What I had in Feb 2020 was not a typical flu! Does that info answer it for you?

    • Replies: @Nancy
    , @Anonymous
    , @Emslander
  204. jsinton says:

    Or is it about wiring us up as a control node on the control grid?

    I assume Dr. Roberts, you have seen the reports about the “vaccine” being 99% graphine? Or reports of people becoming “magnetic” after “vaccine” shots? Graphine is the new hot technology to replace traditional IC chips for radio and optical technologies. So one can imagine that by getting the “vaccine” with graphine nanoparticles, The Beast can turn your body into a perfect 5G node.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/07/no_author/do-nano-sized-graphene-oxide-particles-in-covid-vaccines-5g-radiation-cause-covid-19/

  205. I have been a big fan of Paul Craig Roberts for many years, and I have bought Edward Curtin’s book and The Saker’s too, but not Paul Craig Roberts, cos he will not allow comments…So I wrote this today..Make of it what you will. I get banned almost everywhere. Not so far here so far as I know.

    It is not my decision. I am not the Parent. I am the Grandfather.

    [MORE]

    Our 3 year old had the normal childhood injections and was fine ,until the next day, when his temperature was 40 degrees Centigrade, which is like 104 Degrees Farenheit…which I thought was very high

    Then his 5 year old brother got sent home from school, who hadn’t been recently injected

    My wife was away, seeing her Mum in Lancashire, so My son rushed off to the Chemist to get some Calpol.

    They couldn’t even enjoy the sunshine and the blow up toys in our garden in the paddling pool. They were really poorly, until my wife gets back from Lancashire late last night, and they instantly made a miraculous recovery to see Nana..

    But cos the eldest (5) got sent home, he now has to take a PCR Test

    If I was his Parent, I would not allow it.

    I won’t let anyone stick anything that far up my nose.

    But its not my decision.

    He is fine today, and been splashing naked in the paddling pool amd down the slide wih his 3 year old brother.

    Grandkids Back to the Mother and her Dog tonight.

    I couldn’t handle that. My wife and I never split up, and our kids came with us nearly everywhere sometimes with their friends too

    Why is some arsehole trying to stick a cotton bud up my 5 year old Grandchild’s nose?

    and what can I do to stop it?

    His brain is very delicate.

    The last thing he needs is that.

    Who’s benefit is it for? It most certainly isn’t his.

    There’s Nothing Wrong with Him.

    He is 5 Years Old.

    Tony

  206. @JasonT

    According to Dr. Martin there are 73 patents describing the Covid virus in complete detail.These include patents granted NIH and US armed forces research institutions. It is mindless to say a virus does not exist that documents show has been researched in various laboratories for years. So why are there 73 patents on something that does not exist, and why has millions of dollars been spent studying something that doesn’t exist?

  207. JasonT says:
    @frontier

    If you are suggesting that ‘viruses’ do exist because they are products of cell death, then I agree. If you are saying that ‘viruses’ are transmissible because they are spewed out when you cough due to cell death in your respiratory system, then I agree also. If you say ‘viruses’ are toxic, then I agree also.

    But if you say ‘viruses’ take over cellular machinery and replicate themselves, then I disagree. If you say that ‘viruses’ mutate then I also disagree.

    In my view, ‘viruses’ are toxic chemical products of cell death that can be transmitted to others through coughing to cause cell death in others.

    The problem with people’s perception of ‘viruses’ is that most believe that they are life-like in their ability to reproduce, when they are not. Simple sanitation, hygiene and nutrition as well as a robust immune system takes care of the problems. Any chemical can be transmitted from a carrier to another person. It is as simple as applying a chemical to a person’s skin and the person touching another person. There is no magical transmission vectors no matter whether you think the toxin is dead, alive or pseudo-alive.

    ———-

    “the immune system doesn’t recognize them as parts of the body”

    Feces and urine are part of your body, but consuming and inhaling those are going to cause problems, to which your immune system is going to react. Your immune system reacts to things that are toxic, including simple chemical compounds.

    • Replies: @frontier
    , @Polemos
  208. dario says:

    Interview with The fifth column (La quinta columna, Spain) for Michel Chossudovsky – July 16th, 2021

    What is inside the vial of the Pfizer vaccine, grapheme oxide?

    https://odysee.com/@laquintacolumna:8/INTERVIEWWITHTHEFIFTHCOLUMNFORMichelChossudovsky:1

  209. @SafeNow

    The paper you linked to is almost unreadable. The titular “con-style serial rapist” is wrapped in mountains of meandering, off-topic crap. You seem to have picked out the two best sentences.

  210. Great article as usual. But has Covid ever been isolated in a lab? Can we say for sure that it is a new coronavirus never seen before?

    We still have baffling, unanswered questions. What caused Wuhan residents to collapse and die in the street? We haven’t seen this anywhere else.

    How did “covid” leap to Iran and wreak sudden death and devastation amongst the political class?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  211. @aj54

    #covidhoax refers to the manufactured government crisis, the (indeed planned) hoax.

  212. profnasty says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yeah?
    CoVid is yesterday’s news.
    Nobody with an ounce of intelligence or integrity gives a flying fk about this phony bologny.
    Yesterday’s news.
    Leave it alone already. You’re picking at the scab.

  213. HbutnotG says:

    A lazy immune system is better. It’s interstitial pneumonitis – (fuck you spellcheck – that’s the way it’s spelled) is brought about by the immune response to the virus. That’s why hydroxychloroquine works.

    Another article about COVID written by a fucking journalism or speech major who knows zilch about infectious diseases..That makes about 6,000 such useless articles.

  214. profnasty says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    Sir. I am your biggest fan.
    I haven’t seen so much as a common cold (S Florida) for a year and a half. My best friends work in our SW Fl. hospitals. Ain’t seen nothing yet.
    It’s a scam.
    You of all people must bear our standard. Please, don’t take Wall Street’s side in this.
    You’re all we have left.
    Please. Stand and fight.

  215. Art says:

    I have heard it said that the government has a valid cause to get everyone vaccinated. Covid-19 is mutating fast. If the number of new cases is not stopped – there is no telling what could naturally happen with Covid-19 variants. This is a major concern.

    The vaccine for the most part halts new Covid-19 infections. The less new Covid cases, the less mutations. The vaccines may cause other problems – but those problems are minuscule compared to what an unchecked Covid variant could bring.

    As an individual person it may be wise to forego the vaccine – but as a member of a society – the long term results may be better for humanity, if the vaccines where taken by everyone.

    • Troll: Alfred
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @peterrabbit
    , @Anzelo
  216. frankie p says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron,

    Keep in mind that your entire modus operandi is an anathema to the mainstream press, establishment, bit Tech corporations, etc. Just a quick glance at your comment raises a great number of flags for these people. First, you promote the dissemination of alternative perspectives, while the US media, bit tech, the establishment and the government are trending towards one acceptable perspective and the labeling of those with “other” views as kooks, conspiracy theorists, and of course, “haters, racists, deplorables, Nazis, White Supremacists”. Next, you admit that you’re human: “unfortunately it’s very possible that I may sometimes be mistaken”. My God, man, how could you ever join the ranks of the woke normies and admit that you might make mistakes?

    Utu is attacking you maliciously, and yet he is a frequent visitor and commenter on TUR. It makes you wonder, doesn’t it. Anyway, I think you can be confident that the great majority of the readers and commenters on TUR stand firmly behind your mission here, and we appreciate greatly the constant supply of “Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media.”

    Keep it up.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute, acementhead
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  217. Ron Unz says:
    @Mr Blister

    We still have baffling, unanswered questions. What caused Wuhan residents to collapse and die in the street? We haven’t seen this anywhere else.

    People are very gullible. Those ridiculous videos were distributed and promoted by anti-China activists and anti-China websites and almost certainly produced by anti-China organizations like the Falun Gong. They were just meant to persuade people that China was collapsing. People shouldn’t believe everything they see in propaganda-videos.

    How did “covid” leap to Iran and wreak sudden death and devastation amongst the political class?

    I think the most likely explanation is that Covid was an American biowarfare attack against China and Iran, as I’ve discussed in my long articles:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#the-long-forgotten-early-iranian-outbreak

    • Replies: @geokat62
  218. @Ron Unz

    Some people choose not to be vaxxed.

    This makes them a “horde of fanatic anti-vaxxers” (your words).

    If some people want to simply be left alone in peace, and other people want to force their will on them, then who’s the fanatic?

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @gsjackson
  219. @follyofwar

    For the medical proof that there was nothing at all “novel” about the caronavirus Sars-CoV-2, see Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi’s video:

    “Proof that puts an end to the Sars-CoV-2 Narrative”

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/quot-proof-that-puts-a-end-to-the-sars-cov-2-narrative-quot-professor-sucharit-bhakdi_895vxLrSVgHYH7y.html

    • Thanks: RichardDuck
  220. Brilliant post, Dr Roberts.

    Dr. Martin’s evidence is corroborated by Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi’s medical proof, and demonstration based on the immune system’s response to the “virus”, that there was nothing at all “novel” about the caronavirus Sars-CoV-2, see Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi’s video:

    “Proof that puts an end to the Sars-CoV-2 Narrative”

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/quot-proof-that-puts-a-end-to-the-sars-cov-2-narrative-quot-professor-sucharit-bhakdi_895vxLrSVgHYH7y.html

  221. Marylou says:
    @frankie p

    I have a friend with Lupus. Early on medication for Lupus patients was changed. She hoarded 20 pills just in case.

    Check out Dr Zelenko.

  222. @frankie p

    ‘Utu’ revealed itself quickly as a BigPharma troll, and the other biases and gift for slander revealed themselves later. An oaf, to be generous.

  223. @SafeNow

    “Ninety-eight percent of our sample was male” !
    Does that mean 2% of the rapists were female, or am I being old-fashioned?

    And: “46.1% of the offenders were identified as African American” !

  224. @Ron Unz

    Reading VT for five minutes ought to convince one that it is a disinfo site, ‘cognitive infiltration’ as Cass Sunstein might call it.

  225. Marylou says:
    @The Real World

    I can’t prove it, but I think I had it. The rash made me suspicious. It was supposed to be one of the unusual symptoms.

    check out using H202 in a nebulizer and inhaling it. Remember how they all laughed at Trump….

    We have been using it for many years. It is great stuff. Of course I don’t know if the H202 knocked it right away, or I had a very mild case, or my immune system is pretty good..

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @The Real World
  226. throtler says:
    @follyofwar

    Yeah, why are comments not permitted for his other articles?

    • Agree: john cronk
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  227. @JoeFour

    No, it isn’t. That website does not let me read the article so I can’t judge what it says. Just because you give a link doesn’t mean it’s actually available.

    Also, PCR should have given the link. He didn’t because he’d only read of it and did not want to look it up. “Allegedly” doesn’t do it, nor does “I read somewhere…” and writing like this is a pet peeve of mine.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  228. geokat62 says:
    @Art

    As an individual person it may be wise to forego the vaccine – but as a member of a society – the long term results may be better for humanity, if the vaccines where taken by everyone.

    Hey, Art.

    Are you familiar with this important statistical info:

    If you’re under 70 years of age, you’re more likely to die from influenza than covid.

    If you’re over 70 years of age, you’re more likely to die from covid than influenza.

    With this information in hand, just wondering if you were a strong advocate of people under 70 taking MANDATORY flu vaccines in the recent past? If not, why not?

  229. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    I think the most likely explanation is that Covid was an American biowarfare attack against China and Iran…

    Since you’ve attributed responsibility for these biowarfare attacks to a few rogue “neocons,” wouldn’t it be more appropriate to characterize these attacks as Zionist in nature, rather than American?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  230. Marylou says:
    @ben sampson

    check out Dr Zelenko.

    His success rate treating only elderly and patients with comorbidities is pretty amazing.

    Remember Trump endorsed HCQ and it was demonized then and there.

  231. @Maddaugh

    Mad Dog-I never said that the Sun is irrelevant. The Sun is the main reason we exist on this planet, but not the only reason. The Sun is the main driver of planetary climate but NOT the only one. Atmospheric levels of greenhouse gases are also important, and the forcing of increased greenhouse gases levels in the atmosphere over the last 200 years, one of the greatest and fastest such forcings for 55 million, or more, years, MUST have an effect on global climate, as it certainly is doing so. Go and tell the one thousand plus drowned in Western Europe in absolutely unprecedented floods that climate destabilisation is a lie, a conspiracy and ‘warmist’ propaganda. I’m sure you’ll get a warm reception.

    • Replies: @Bugey libre
  232. @Paul Craig Roberts

    I looked up the patent that was mentioned in the video provided at around the 10:15 mark.
    Title and Abstract:
    “Methods for producing recombinant coronavirus
    Abstract
    A helper cell for producing an infectious, replication defective, coronavirus (or more generally nidovirus) particle cell comprises (a) a nidovirus permissive cell; (b) a nidovirus replicon RNA comprising the nidovirus packaging signal and a heterologous RNA sequence, wherein the replicon RNA further lacks a sequence encoding at least one nidovirus structural protein; and (c) at least one separate helper RNA encoding the at least one structural protein absent from the replicon RNA, the helper RNA(s) lacking the nidovirus packaging signal. The combined expression of the replicon RNA and the helper RNA in the nidovirus permissive cell produces an assembled nidovirus particle which comprises the heterologous RNA sequence, is able to infect a cell, and is unable to complete viral replication in the absence of the helper RNA due to the absence of the structural protein coding sequence in the packaged replicon. Compositions for use in making such helper cells, along with viral particles produced from such cells, compositions of such viral particles, and methods of making and using such viral particles, are also disclosed.”
    https://patents.google.com/patent/US7279327B2/en?oq=US+patent+7279327

    I need a crash course in microbiology to understand this patent. It is one thing to point to US bioweapon research and another to say the patent is a blueprint to build Corona-Chan. I’m too ignorant to know. If they created it then they could create and release as many variations of it that they want.

    The harmful effects of the spike protein is part of COVID-19 too. “We found evidence that the spike proteins that stud the outside of the COVID-19 coronavirus bind to one of these complement proteins, known as MASP2, and this may be one mechanism by which it can directly initiate the complement cascade. In other words, the virus itself may be directly setting off an immune cascade that results in clotting.” Do vaccines require this spike protein? I don’t want my body making it either from the virus or vaccine, so I’m waiting for the Novavax vaccine to be released, and take my chances with it’s spike protein since it is probably inescapable unless a vaccine comes out without it. https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2020/07/what-is-known-about-covid-19-and-abnormal-blood-clotting

  233. gsjackson says:
    @A little boy in the crowd

    It’s a standard corporate media tactic — dismissal by marginalization. Whether it’s a pilpul tactic, I leave to those more familiar with the discipline.

    I have nothing against vaccinations in theory — the idea is to bolster your immune system’s capability to take on a serious contender by having a bout with a smaller, less potent version of the contender. I’m all for bolstering the immune system in any way possible, so long as the system doesn’t become over-militarized, which can result in autoimmune problems where the newly aroused army starts attacking the body. There are many ways to bolster the immune system other than vaccines, as people who have taken ownership of their own health understand.

    But that’s not what this vaccine does, as I understand it. It does not create a lesser version of the disease because the virus has never been isolated. It causes your cells to manufacture spike proteins, which are quite toxic. What’s the theory here? Anybody who doesn’t ask simply doesn’t want to know.

  234. @Uncle John

    The standard of living is not better in China (where I live) compared to the West or even compared to other East Asian countries. It’s overcrowded and noisy with a culture of little respect for privacy, and people, even rich people, live in substandard, pokey, and overpriced apartments; nobody has gardens, yards or space for kids to run and play. Even in the countryside people live crunched up with neighbors. Apartment quality is slowly improving but also prices are going up, but workmanship and maintenance is still poor. There are good things about the place too but on the housing issue, which is important for quality of life, it comes up short.

  235. Ron Unz says:
    @geokat62

    Since you’ve attributed responsibility for these biowarfare attacks to a few rogue “neocons,” wouldn’t it be more appropriate to characterize these attacks as Zionist in nature, rather than American?

    Well, under my reconstruction, the attack was probably organized by some of the top officials in the Trump Administration, with Mike Pompeo and John Bolton being the two most likely suspects.

    The human and material resources were drawn from the CIA, special forces, and Ft. Detrick, with all the participants (wrongly) assuming that they were taking part in a fully authorized covert strike against America’s leading global adversaries, China and Iran.

    With everyone involved being American, it sounds pretty “American” to me…

    • Thanks: Mevashir, JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  236. utu says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    “According to Dr. Martin…” – My first impression is that he engages in some form of litigation abuse tactics when one side is flooded with unnecessary documents to overwhelm and make response delayed or impossible for the other side.

    Next I tried to find something I could verify. On page 16

    https://f.hubspotusercontent10.net/hubfs/8079569/The%20FauciCOVID-19%20Dossier.pdf

    he tries to convey that Ralph Baric before SARS epidemic of 2002 already patented the virus and assembled it. Here is the quote:

    As early as May 21, 2000, Dr. Baric and UNC sought to patent critical sections of the coronavirus family for their commercial benefit.27 In one of the several papers derived from work sponsored by this grant, Dr. Baric published what he reported to be the full length cDNA of SARS CoV in which it was clearly stated that SAR CoV was based on a composite of DNA segments..

    “Using a panel of contiguous cDNAs that span the entire genome, we have assembled a full-length cDNA of the SARS-CoV Urbani strain, and have rescued molecularly cloned SARS viruses (infectious clone SARS-CoV) that contained the expected marker mutations inserted into the component clones.”28

    On April 19, 2002 – the Spring before the first SARS outbreak in Asia – Christopher M. Curtis, Boyd Yount, and Ralph Baric filed an application for U.S. Patent 7,279,372 for a method of producing recombinant coronavirus. In the first public record of the claims, they sought to patent a means of producing, “an infectious, replication defective, coronavirus.” This work was supported by the NIH grant referenced above and GM63228. In short, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services was involved in the funding of amplifying the infectious nature of coronavirus between 1999 and 2002 before SARS was ever detected in humans.

    When we follow the footnote 27 we get to patent application

    Directional assembly of large viral genomes and chromosomes (May 21, 2001)
    https://patents.justia.com/patent/6593111

    The present invention relates to a simple, systematic method for assembling functional full-length genomes of large RNA and DNA viruses. The invention is exemplified by, although not limited to, the assembly of full-length, functional coronavirus genomes. The present inventors have successfully assembled a full length infectious clone of transmissible gastroenteritis virus (TGE). Using a novel approach, six adjoining cDNA subclones that span the entire TGE genome were isolated. Each clone was engineered with unique flanking interconnecting junctions which dictate a precise, systematic assembly with only the correct adjacent cDNA subclones, resulting in an intact TGE cDNA construct of about approximately 28.5 Kb in length.

    This clearly tells us that in 2001 Baric already knew how to clone some coronaviruses and reassemble them from their parts. However Baric is not patenting virus as David Martin tries to make us believe but a method of assembly. David Martin misleads and misrepresents..

    Now let’s go to the link from footnote 28:

    Reverse genetics with a full-length infectious cDNA of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (received for review August 7, 2003)
    https://www.pnas.org/content/100/22/12995

    A previously undescribed coronavirus (CoV) is the etiologic agent responsible for severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Using a panel of contiguous cDNAs that span the entire genome, we have assembled a full-length cDNA of the SARS-CoV Urbani strain, and have rescued molecularly cloned SARS viruses (infectious clone SARS-CoV) that contained the expected marker mutations inserted into the component clones.

    This has been written after the 2002-2003 SARS epidemic was over. Baric reports that they succeeded in reassembly of SARS virus. As you see David Martin omits the year 2003 date to make an impression that the paper from which he quotes (above in Italic) came from something before the epidemic. In the next sentence “On April 19, 2002 – the Spring before the first SARS outbreak in Asia” he is back to 2002, so a reader has impression that everything what he sees is still happening before the SARS epidemic of 2002. Again David Martin deceptively misleads.

    Why is he doing it? The title of the document “The Fauci/COVID-19 Dossier” with a statement that “This document is prepared for humanity by Dr. David E. Martin.” Is he suffering from the delusion of grandeur or is somebody paying him. After all there is a considerable research put into this document. There are some useful information one can get from his effort. But why does he mislead and is deceptive?

    I hope that somebody will disassemble his document further tough it won’t have much impact on adherents he gained via Youtube videos. They ain’t no readers. Just look at yourself, Paul Craig Roberts. There’s no fool like an old fool.

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
    • Troll: Alfred, Mevashir, Jazman
  237. Wild Man says:
    @Anon

    Your comment:

    “Thank you, Mr Unz for allowing respected PCR to publish this, a very good summary of the arguments for “vaccine hesitancy”, as you personally do not share such views.”

    Do you happen to know if Mr. Unz claims vaccine-hesitancy is illogical, or is it that he just doesn’t like to talk about that topic in certain of his article comment-threads? Sometimes, I get the impression that Mr. Unz thinks the vaccine-hesitant aren’t thinking straight, as if he was adversarial to the idea of being vaccine-hesitant. The reason I ask, is because it has struck me that it would be very illogical for someone whom entertains some likelihood of Sars-Cov-2 being a bioweapon, to then also think that vaccine-hesitancy would be illogical, …. because if ‘bioweapon’, then, the shortlist of the ‘who’s’ to consider, would have to include virologists/immunologists/vaccinologists within, I think what would be a majority if not all of the conspiracies so short-listed, …. paired with the fact that once ‘vaxxed’ there is no method available to become ‘unvaxxed’ – and it’s one body/one life in this human realm, so ….. (unless I’m missing something), I don’t get it. Once you go ‘bioweapon’, by logic, that leads directly to ‘is the vaxx compromised?’ So I’ve wondered a bit about that.

    But if Mr. Unz chose to be vaccinated, … and then people started annoying him about that … well … maybe that would explain the Unz-grouch-thing around the vaccine-hesitancy topic. To me, whether someone like Mr. Unz got vaccinated, is neither here nor there to the logic of vaccine-hesitancy ….. because, for older folk (like me too) it’s a personal choice, still within the realm of logical consideration, …. it depends upon alot of personal (and private) circumstances, health-wise and responsibilities-wise, particular to each person, and these personal considerations take on more weight under the scenario whereby older folk have much greater morbidity-risk from wild covid than the younger cohorts. But I certainly don’t believe there is any reason for virtually any under-19-year-olds to take the vaxx, and should not be recommended for this cohort. Also – I don’t think it should be recommended for those that have had a prior sars-cov-2 infection. The vaxx-self-interest quotient (weighing risk both ways) is negative (un-beneficial) for both these cohorts. Covid Officialdom seems to want to keep claiming otherwise …. so foolish …. it’s just straight simple math (a quantitative matter) and not the qualitative matter Covid Officialdom weirdly seems to make it out to be, for these two cohorts in question.

    Anyways ….. I don’t understand why, if ‘bioweapon’, Mr. Unz would be adverse to vaccine-hesitancy, as a general logical considered view worthy of consideration by nearly everyone (unless I’m mistaken and he is not adverse, just grouchy, on the topic).

    • Agree: Mevashir, acementhead
  238. DaveE says:
    @Desert Fox

    I suspect you are involved in this scam and psyop as you are a quite involved in destroying the truth about this scam and psyop.

    “John Johnson” is probably something like Jacob Jacobowitz.

    I had a (Jew) teacher in 10th grade who used to say, “The more American the name, the more Japanese the product.” He was referring to brands (at the time) like Craig, Kenwood, Sherwood, Pioneer, Lafayette (well, French, but…) Radio Shack…. etc. etc. etc. all made in Japan.

    Jews understand instinctively the power of “switching the label” to disguise the contents.

    Pharisee = Rabbi = Jew = Hebrew = Neocon = Bolshevik = etc. etc. etc.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  239. utu says:
    @utu

    OTOH is it possible that Ralph Baric was the creator of SARS 2002 virus? It seems he had means already in 2001 to assemble and reassemble coronaviruses but there is no proof he did it. His 2003 publications demonstrates that he was able to clone the SARS 2002 virus.

  240. geokat62 says:

    With everyone involved being American, it sounds pretty “American” to me…

    American? With both Bolton and Pompeo being unabashed Christian Zionists, it’s sounds pretty “Zionist” to me…

    Zionist Organization of America gives John Bolton ‘Defender of Israel’ award

    https://www.jta.org/2018/11/05/united-states/zoa-gives-john-bolton-defender-israel-award

    Mike Pompeo Honored With ‘Friends of Zion’ Award

    https://loveforhispeople.com/2020/07/01/mike-pompeo-honored-with-friends-of-zion-award/

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  241. @Marylou

    OMG, the rash. Did you also see my Comment #213?

    The rash I had was unreal – huge and roving over days. Then it disappeared in a matter of hours so, the Doc wasn’t able to see even a fragment. Crazy…

    Interesting about the nebulizer and H202. Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind.

  242. Liza says:

    A simple question to those who think that vaccines are both safe and useful:

    Have you ever read any books by medical/scientific persons, or by amateurs who’ve done research, which present the anti-vaccination viewpoint? E.g.,

    *Vaccines: A Reappraisal by Richard Moskowitz, M.D.

    *Miller’s Review of Critical Vaccine Studies: 400 Important Scientific Papers Summarized for Parents and Researchers by Neil Z. Miller

    *Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk

    *Vaccine Epidemic: How Corporate Greed, Biased Science, and Coercive Government Threaten Our Human Rights, Our Health, and Our Children by Louise Kuo Habakus & Mary Holland, J.D.

    *Dare to Question: One Parent to Another by Ted Kuntz, M.Ed.

    *Immunization Safety Review: Multiple Immunizations and Immune Dysfunction
    by Institute of Medicine, Board on Health Promotion and Disease Prevention, et al.

    There’s a whole bunch more. If you are going to read just one, try Dissolving Illusions.

    • Thanks: Polemos
    • Replies: @Abbybwood
  243. @CanSpeccy

    “Concerning the purpose of the worldwide, top-down drive to vaccinate everyone, it may be important to consider the findings of a British Columbia country doctor, whose research indicates that Covid vaccine induces blood clots in heart microcapillaries”

    The heart is only one of the vital organs in which blood clots are being induced by the mRNA shots. Blood clots are also occurring in the lungs and the brain.

    See Dr Charles Hoffe’s video: “Majority Of Tested Patients Have Clotting After ‘Vaccine’ ”

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-charles-hoffe-majority-of-tested-patients-have-clotting-after-039-vaccine-039_efbILAxjjJi6Jih.html

  244. @Bill Jones

    Of course it is. Resistant in 1995 means resistant in 2021. And I value the comment from someone who has lived in that country.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  245. Sisifo says:
    @Ktulu

    You can’t kill a virus since it’s not alive to begin with.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  246. frontier says:
    @JasonT

    “the immune system doesn’t recognize them as parts of the body”

    Hey, you took that out of context. I was pretty clear, if it transmits and replicates in addition to the above, it doesn’t matter how you call it. If it can make you “not living”, silly semantics games are useless. What do you think Fort Detrick is doing? And all other bio-weapons labs? Playing with dead cells? For billions of dollars? Get real.

    • Replies: @JasonT
  247. Anon[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Haven’t seen Dr Martin and am not really interested.

    Do you think mandatory vaccination, like they are imposing in France, is ethical and/or sound public policy?

    Do you think “the unvaccinated” are the ONLY sources of variants?

    For dishonesty, read with your usual care this CNN article: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/03/health/unvaccinated-variant-factories/index.html
    “ That’s because the only source of new coronavirus variants is the body of an infected person.”

    • Replies: @frankie p
    , @utu
  248. bayviking says:

    Paul Craig Roberts (PCR), Dr. Tess Lawrie, Mike Whitney and Robert Kennedy Jr. believe the risks of taking any of the vaccines is worse than the disease, primarily because the mRNA technology is new and was delivered bypassing normal testing protocol. PCR claims ALL Covid vaccines carry significant long term risks. But, it is too early to draw any such conclusion. In reality, no one knows, because anecdotal evidence is meaningless.

    All information on the MSM clearly state 97% of all new Covid-19 new hospitalizations are for un-vaccinated patients. I trust most doctors and ALL nurses.

    The best defense has always been isolation and remains so, but its very bad for the economy. Totalitarian China beat Covid-19 using the techniques PCR is concerned about and their economy continues to grow and dominate. Under Trump and Biden we have not imposed national totalitarian population control, leaving most control on a State and local level, except for military planning for the vaccine rollout. So all the conspiracy speculation has no basis in fact. Its all based on what these paranoid loony toons think our government is going to do next. Fat chance.

    Two of the vaccines, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech and Moderna, respectively, both employ a novel genetic technology known as mRNA. But, at least three Covid vaccines do not use mRNA technology. On this point PCR is wrong. The University of Oxford and AstraZeneca uses a chimpanzee virus to deliver DNA for a component of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID. Russia, China, Cuba and India have rolled out their own vaccines also using conventional vaccine technology. However, the CDC refuses to introduce those vaccines in the USA. Why do you think they behave that way? Free markets?

    • Replies: @johnnyuinta
    , @HCQ
  249. Alfred says:
    @John Johnson

    So if independent hospitals are reporting that over 99% of deaths in the US are now among the unvaccinated how exactly is the conspiracy working?

    Lie and propaganda.

    Fewer of those unvaccinated in the UK are “cases” while ever more people who are vaccinated are “cases”. How do you account for that. BTW, this is on pro-vaccination lying mainstream media MSN.

    Vaccinated people now make up almost 47% of all new Covid cases

  250. If fake crises/massacres/pandemics can be used and abused for gain, why are you all so surprise that a real one would be, has been?

    It would even be easier in fact as the power that be wouldn’t need to create a fake one.

  251. Sisifo says: • Website
    @Uncle John

    I agree wholeheartedly, I have no idea how people can still talk about Communist China when in fact they are now excessively loving capitalism and money.

    That said, even lower socio economic groups seems to have a happy life, and if it wasn’t for the weather I would already have applied for political asylum…

  252. @UnicornPooh

    “Rotates” gives us night and day; “tilted” gives us summer and winter. What makes you think the Sahara turns green every 20,000 years?

  253. @Paul Craig Roberts

    “It is mindless to say a virus does not exist that documents show has been researched in various laboratories for years. So why are there 73 patents on something that does not exist, and why has millions of dollars been spent studying something that doesn’t exist?”

    Why? In two words: The Benjamins.

    For a detailed explanation of the issues, listen to the Fuellmich-Martin video from about 59:22 to 1:18:00.

  254. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    We have entered a grand solar minimum…

  255. Franz says:
    @Maddaugh

    Maddaugh —

    Thanks for the input. Some we’ve got to already, others we will investigate.

    One specific in her case is she is prone to anemia. I drive to an Amish farm once a week and buy three dozen free range eggs for the both of us. The protein appears to be OK in this form, and I keep checking but see no down side in our case.

    Thanks again.

  256. Franz says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Just as an afterthought, it also probably wouldn’y hurt to get hold of a supply of Ivermectin, as well as Vitamin C, Vitamin D and Zinc. All those things do a good job of killing Corona Chan (especially Ivermectin) so I’d wager they’d also interfere with whatever it is that the Corona Chan “Spike Protein” does to our bodies.

    Thanks for all the advice. I have noticed a difference in her mood and energy levels when I got a sack of powdered pharmaceutical grade ascorbic acid (C) from a health store. The difference between that and vitamin C tablets is striking.

    Thanks again.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  257. Nancy says:
    @The Real World

    Thanks! Sounds like you took care of yourself : ) well done. I was hoping you’d had the opportunity to try the zinc-quercitin, or Vit D & C, or HCQ-azythro-zinc, or Ivermectin, etc. protocols, that were developed after you became ill. I suspect your story would have been much different… but these were all in your future. I’m grateful that I have Ivermecin, zinc, quercitin, Vit D et on hand, shoud I deveop the symptoms you experienced. So glad you’ve recovered… and thanks 🙂

  258. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Getaclue

    No doubt.

  259. Stop overthinking this and giving it attention it doesn’t deserve.
    Here is what’s important:
    1. Eat right and avoid the standard western diet – this will bring your metabolism into a healthy state and make you resistant to ordinary pathogens (including covid). Read ‘The Carnivore Code’ to start, and then make your way from one expert to the next.
    2. Read Ivor Cummins’ site – ‘The Fat Emperor’ if you’re interested in the details of this giant meltdown. Roberts’ article here is excellent, but Ivor has been giving everyone this information for well over a year.
    3. Do whatever you can to avoid and discount all of the Covid nonsense. It is all crap.

    Here is what’s not important:
    1.Paying attention to where the virus came from, and how, and why.
    2. Paying attention to the medical establishment and the big organizations (WHO, CDC, etc).
    3. Listening to the media. (turn off your TV)
    4. Engaging in endless discussions about the mechanism of action of the virus and the vaccines. (don’t take a vaccine). Your evolved biochemistry can keep you healthy if you give it what it needs. Our civilization cannot.

    • Replies: @John H
  260. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Real World

    Did you try drinking some Tonic Water? With .00003 mg of quinine, I mean?

    • Replies: @johnnyuinta
  261. @Art

    That’s a good one. The vaccine may kill you but get vaccinated for the good of humanity.

  262. Schuetze says:

    It sure looks to me like the clot shots are categorically making people sick, with the most VAXXED nations having the highest cases per million people, and yet the calls to get VAXXED grow louder by the day. This evidence is more damning than Ron Unz’s contention that higher annual deaths can only be attributed to the morbidity of Covid 19.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  263. @Maddaugh

    Ruminants eat vegetation, but they have specialized multi-gastric digestive systems with bacteria that convert it to proteins and fatty acids, etc. We, on the other hand, are monogastric animals and cannot process vegetation in this way. Rather, we process the meat of the ruminants effectively.
    Primates are our closest relatives – but they’re not really close. Their guts have short small intestines and large cecums compared to ours….ours are the opposite, and are optimized by a couple of million years of evolution for meat eating. This is how we grew large brains and became humans.
    Even poorly raised ruminants are healthier for us than low nutrient density, toxin laden vegetable foods.
    If you eat right, you won’t need ‘medicines’ and ‘cures’ Or a covid vaccine.

  264. Krizz says:
    @Curmudgeon

    You right
    Never had one never will and had many flus and colds and always recover well from.. honey, 2gr or more VitC, VitD 10000U, lots of raw garlic mixed with dinner, turkey rice soup, herbs, Zinc and more daily is what i use to be healthy again and it works.. cheers

  265. Mark G. says:
    @Anon

    1) covid is real. It kills, though perhaps not as much as current numbers say.
    2) treatment was ruthlessly suppressed for money and profits.
    3) vaccination should not be mandatory, even less vaccine passports.

    I would agree with this. I was in the hospital for five days with Covid at the end of last month and the total bill came to forty thousand dollars. I received remdesivir by IV at night and dexamethasone by IV in the morning, same as Trump got when he was sick. Medicare will probably pick up a lot of the bill. I feel this could have all been avoided. I was sick for a week before I went into the hospital and if I had received early treatment I might not have ended up in the hospital.

    The most effective early treatment option is probably the HCQ and zinc combination but I had no idea how to find a doctor who would prescribe it. After my illness was over, I was talking to a local health food store owner and he told me about an organization called America’s front line doctors who could have helped me but it was too late by then. I think I did mitigate the damage somewhat by taking quercetin , zinc, vitamin d and c. My doctor says my x-rays show no lung damage and I “escaped unscathed”. Replacing the quercetin with HCQ and adding azithromycin and ivermectin might have been enough to decrease the drop in oxygen levels that hospitalized me and kept me from needing to go in. I feel like it was purposely made difficult to get early treatment, thereby worsening my condition and forcing me into a hospital and expensive treatments for, as you say, “money and profits”.

  266. Kali says:
    @Eagle Eye

    And to forgive divine.

    Thanks Eagle Eye, but you’re replying to the wrong comment/commenter.

    It’s definitely worth repeating the factual information though, so keep up the good work.

    Kind regards,
    Kali.

  267. Kali says:
    @John Johnson

    I’ve read papers that describe how the virus was “isolated”, hence “LOL”.

    The scientific establishments’ disregard of Kochs’ postulates has rendeted the word “isolated” a euphemism for “soup”. 😉

    Best,
    Kali.

  268. Levtraro says:
    @dimples

    No, in adenovirus-vector vaccines like Astrazeneca’s and Sputnik V it is the impotent adenovirus the one producing (a piece of) the spike protein using the cell’s machinery as any virus does, while in mRNA vaccines it is the cell’s ribosomes that produce (a piece of) the spike protein believing that the mRNA is coming from the cell’s nucleus. Therefore, mRNA vaccines run the risk of retrotranscription (at least through LINE1 retrotransposons) while adenovirus-vector based vaccines are just like a normal cold infection.

    • Thanks: john cronk
  269. Reaper says:
    @Tsar Nicholas

    QR codes are actually get discontinued in Moscow oblast.

    While in many countries just get enacted a similar measure.

  270. Kali says:
    @tyrone

    “Paul Craig Roberts : a national treasure!”

    Make that “international treasure” in these days of global conspiracies.

    I read everything he publushes on this website and very much appreciate his perspective and insight into your (US) domestic situation as well as on those things which effect us all.

    Kind regards,
    Kali.

    • Thanks: tyrone
  271. Levtraro says:
    @JoeFour

    Anybody saying “Google is your friend” is … let’s say naïve.

    • Replies: @JoeFour
  272. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    From a commenter on another site: “The Indian Bar Association is prosecuting WHO officers that recommended against Ivermectin. The death penalty is on the cards, now that is the kind of trial I’d like to see in every country”.

    Also, it seems the French are sharpening their guillotine blades (not literally, unfortunately, but they are arcing up).

    In Australia: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, except for the likes of the Federal politician, Craig Kelly, in Parliament demanding to know why Ivermectin is banned.

  273. @tyrone

    It was still prescribed as a regular dose in Malarial areas in India, about as recent as ten years ago. Now it is strictly controlled.

  274. Levtraro says:
    @utu

    … and you are paid pennies to disrupt the solace of the desperates.

  275. @utu

    F**k you utu. Hurry up and submit to the non-vaccine inoculation so that we will be rid of your slander, calumny, and lies, once and for all.

    Dr Roberts, pay no attention to this utter fool: your fingernail parings are worth more than many thousands of contemptible bots like it (sic).

  276. Reaper says:

    Article is fine.

    Question -> probably someone seen such article somewhere.

    Vaccination rate:
    Most countries have a target % of the population which they WANT to reach.

    Untill certain % NOT reached there are usually:
    – mass campaigns
    – fearmongering
    -> To increase this semi-voluntary vaccination.

    But more importantly:
    – administrative-punitive measures/ lockdowns
    Like: deny access to services (in some places includes healthcare – replaced by Covid care), social life (in person), personal shopping, etc…

    After a while measures/ restrictions are eased for the “good collaborating” masses who get vaccinated, as they get back some “privilage” in the new “normal”.

    Targets in vaccination % are vary by country betwen 50-90%.

    So the question is:
    Where is the tipping point where governments feel safe enought to:
    – make it mandatory
    – make more punishable/ incriminating (for the ones who resist)
    – create a full blown dystrophia-tyranny from that

    In case of parties/ dictators that is usually about 2/3 or 67% of the votes.

    So what about this crisis what they created?

  277. Anzelo says:
    @Art

    Patience is limited evil liar abomination, your puny half-human body will die

  278. Alfred says:

    Some good news and some troubling news, from Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D.

    “Proof that puts an end to the Sars-CoV-2 Narrative” – Professor Sucharit Bhakdi

  279. @Height_776

    My source for the information is the Duran, hardly a Russophobic outfit and providers of some of the best analysis of the military situation facing the world since the Ukraine build up in March.

    I think Putin’s decision to go to the summit allowed local politicians to start implementing the dirty deed under cover of good ‘ol Vlad being out of the country.

    And some of the ground was prepared by the Russian Orthodox Church actually coming out and declaring that not taking the vaccine is a sin, requiring life long penance.

    Let us hope for some enlightenment with Mr Shamir’s next article.

    • Replies: @Height_776
  280. @follyofwar

    I’m glad to see that comments are permitted for this one

    This comment makes no sense at all. Our gracious host here ensures that comments are permitted for every article on the Unz Review.

    • Replies: @jsinton
    , @john cronk
  281. @Old and Grumpy

    The word resist covers a lot of territory.

    The German Lawyer Reiner Fuellmich has referred to 1000 lawyers and 10,000 people in medical and research fields supporting or participating in his class action ‘crimes against humanity’ lawsuit. Paul Craig Roberts is resisting, as are uncounted others who are trying to break through the massive censorship/deception orchestration fueling the COVID-19 operation.

    Even early in 2020 I encountered complete strangers whose condensed and heartfelt ‘nub of the matter’ remarks were remarkably similar to the essence of that described at much greater length by Michel Chossudovsky at Global Research.

    Much is going on that is completely invisible to mass media, while some things visible to mass media are not being reported or misrepresented.

    An example of the former is the phenomenon in Ontario here of small groups of people who trust each other meeting privately to share Covid-19 operation-related information etc.

    An example of the latter are local anti lockdown protests involving many dozens of people in even small communities.

    Trying to evaluate how many people are ‘resisting’ in some way or other around the Earth is murky since the mass media and health authorities will relentlessly misrepresent just about everything that contradicts the ‘official narratives’.

    So while it is impossible to quantify precisely the numbers on a global basis, the number of resisters in the broadest sense of that word may well number in the many hundreds of millions.

    As to where this is all going, who knows. Pleasant surprises, as well as shit, happen. Or, as esteemed investigator Herodotus long ago observed, accidents rule men, not men accidents.

  282. Emslander says:
    @John Johnson

    At UF Health Jacksonville, there are 76 coronavirus patients being treated. A spokesperson says 18 of those patients are in the Intensive Care Unit and the majority have not been vaccinated.

    No one is questioning your sincerity or your desire to stay healthy. I’m 74 and very healthy and, I would argue, have improved my health in the past two years. I decided to take my health care over myself, because it was finally clear to me that my doctors were treating statistics and not me.

    That’s why one has to look at all these statistical arguments made by the government. The box quote, above, leaves out a lot of necessary information. For example, what was the general condition of these patients before they contracted the novel virus? How long have they been in treatment? How old are they? What are their current treatments?

    My father told me when I was very young that statistics can be used to support any lie. I think you know that, too.

    • Replies: @Nancy
  283. Tjoe says:
    @Skeptikal

    Breath vapor of ethyl alcohol. It damages the protein layer of the virus and lets your antibodies attack it. EverClear is 95% pure EA. Put a few drops on a cloth and inhale into your sinus and lungs. Make it burn….you’ll know it’s working.

    TREAT THE VIRUS WHERE IT GROWS….SINUS AND LUNGS….not blood.

    • Disagree: Kali
    • Replies: @travel lyte
    , @Kali
  284. Emslander says:
    @Mike Fridelle

    Let me just say that, if your absolutist assertion about the inability of human beings to continue living and having children as they see fit is true, I prefer to let Nature, Supply and Demand, individual human decision making capability or the Supreme Being, work out the controls than either you or your fellow ghouls.

  285. Emslander says:
    @Anzelo

    He writes it down here because his brain would otherwise explode from the little voices telling him to do so.

  286. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    Your comment:

    “The one major exception is that I absolutely do stand behind virtually everything I’ve written myself, going back more than twenty-five years.”

    Yes …. that has been my impression. I have assumed this includes any comments you place within the comment-threads of TUR articles (including your own articles of course). So …. I still am wondering, where precisely you stand, on the vaxx-hesitancy issue, as a logical or illogical stance to take, as per what I outlined in comment #247 of this thread (i.e. – are you just grouchy on the issue, which perhaps would be understandable, as I outlined in comment #247, or are you adverse to the vaxx-hesitancy issue as illogical … in which case … I don’t get it …. as I detailed in comment #247)?

  287. @Tsar Nicholas

    The circulars of the ROC leadership regarding the attitude to vaccination are extremely vague. Metropolitan Hilarion(“not taking the vaccine is a sin”) was almost the only one from the church leadership who was not afraid to openly speak out in support of vaccination. Patriarch Kirill prefers not to speak out on this topic and does not even sign orders that somehow affect this painful topic for society. The head of the Synodal Department of the Moscow Patriarchate for work with Society and the media, Vladimir Legoyda, said in one of his public speeches that decisions on vaccination should be made after consulting a doctor, but ” it is impossible to affect a person’s rights in case of refusal to be vaccinated against coronavirus.” But there are no general church orders on vaccination issues yet.In the Moscow diocese, the priests received a corresponding circular letter from the first vicar of the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia in Moscow, Metropolitan Dionysius (Porubai) of the Resurrection, which, on the one hand, called on the priests to be vaccinated, on the other – stressed that this is a voluntary matter.

  288. Erebus says:

    PCR says:

    It is now understood that at the high rate of cycles at which the test was run it produces a false positive rate as high as 97 percent.

    What I find noteworthy here is that China used the same test as everyone else, it resulted in a very low number of cases and a miniscule number of deaths.

    Punctuating that point is last month’s outbreak in the Foshan District of Guangdong, apparently the “Delta variant” imported from India. Shenzhen, a city of ~13M officially (and ~15M unofficially) went on a testing binge. The entire city was tested 3x in a 2 week period. A total of ~40M tests.

    Net result? Zero “cases”. Obviously, no false positives, so no lockdowns, or even mask mandates. An advisory to pay attention, but go about your business.

    So are the Chinese public health authorities running the test at some conservative number of cycles to get to a realistic result that can be assessed and managed in a responsible, professional manner? Looks like that to me.

    That begs the question why much of the West is doing something different.

  289. JasonT says:
    @frontier

    ‘Viruses’ are no different than any other chemical poison. ‘Viruses’ are simply chemical compounds that have specific ‘transmission’ vectors.

  290. John H says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Cass Sunstein and his concubine Samantha Power are core members of the corrupt inner circle tying academia DC to Tel Aviv.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  291. jsinton says:
    @Dave Bowman

    False. PCR articles are normally “comments closed”.

    • Agree: john cronk
    • Replies: @republic
  292. @throtler

    Near as I can tell, only PCR’s articles which are primed to be a feature article (there are two each day) are required to contain comments. If PCR doesn’t agree with that stipulation, then they are not featured.

    • Disagree: john cronk
  293. bayviking says:
    @utu

    We can quibble over minor details in search of proof of natural, accidental or deliberate.

    But nothing changes the fact that these labs are a threat to human health and responsible for at least three outbreaks.

  294. HCQ says:
    @frankie p

    Unfortunately his statement on HCQ usage in Africa is false. The strain of malaria in Tanzania is cloroquine resistant. Additionally Africans do not take malaria prophylaxis. There are other drugs approved for that purpose but none are recommended long term and are typically only taken by short term expats.

  295. John H says:
    @john cronk

    Cogent and succinct. If Western medicine and pharmacology were underpinned by a notion of the sacredness of life, then the rampant ill health (physical and mental) everywhere around us, manifested by obesity across all age groups, would not be growing explosively.

  296. frankie p says:
    @Anon

    Just think of this situation; ponder it for a moment. France wants to make these vaccines mandatory. They want to coerce people to get these vaccines by restricting access to transportation, shopping, government offices, banks, etc. NOT ONE of these vaccines have been approved by the public health agencies of any countries. EUA has made these vaccines available, but we should keep in mind that they are still under research, and anyone who decides to accept a vaccine is a research subject.

    Forcing people to become research subjects is completely unethical.

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Anon
  297. @Anonymous

    Stop buying supermarket tonic water then, Mutt.

  298. @Sick of Orcs

    Exactly. There are shipping records of PCR test kits being shipped world wide in 2019.

  299. bayviking says:
    @HCQ

    Thanks for the clarifications.

    With so much bad information out there, who do you believe?

    For som time here. it was being claimed that Africa was Covid free, or suffering low death rates. Because of their pandemic experiences they do have better testing, tracing and isolation policies in place. But there are still infections in the region.

    For most of us, that is defined by the group we most closely affiliate with, not the plain unadulterated facts.

  300. bayviking says:

    Orchestrated is a very strong term. If you told me Fauci’s agenda includes continued CDC funding, I can believe that. But deliberately planning a pandemic outbreak in order to achieve a high level of crowd control? GMAFB.

    • Troll: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Wild Man
  301. @Alfred

    “So if independent hospitals are reporting…”

    The ARE NO independent hospitals. Have a look at hospital ownership in the US, and I’m pretty sure you will find that, just as with the bank ownership, pharmaceutical company ownership, and media company ownership, “independent ownership” is a euphemism for Jewish ownership.

    • Agree: Alfred
  302. Mevashir says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    No, it isn’t. That website does not let me read the article so I can’t judge what it says. Just because you give a link doesn’t mean it’s actually available.

    You can click the link and then do Ctrl A then C to copy all of the text before the registration wall comes on. Then paste into a Word Document and voila you can read it.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  303. Mevashir says:
    @DaveE

    Jews understand instinctively the power of “switching the label” to disguise the contents.

  304. Mevashir says:
    @geokat62

    American? With both Bolton and Pompeo being unabashed Christian Zionists, it’s sounds pretty “Zionist” to me…

    They’re Americans who support Zionism. They are an American problem for Americans to solve. Calling them Zionists is just an excuse for passivity and doing nothing.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  305. @Franz

    At risk of veering off-topic (although this does speak to just what Big Pharma is capable of, and now with the Corona Chan “vaccines” they appear to be shooting for the Moon) –

    I have noticed a difference in her mood and energy levels when I got a sack of powdered pharmaceutical grade ascorbic acid (C) from a health store. The difference between that and vitamin C tablets is striking.

    Humans are one of the few mammal species unable to manufacture Vitamin C in their own bodies, and actually require 5 – 10 grams per day to achieve optimum health (more if fighting off disease). The tablets or pills are just milking revenue off the public for marginal benefit. Bulk powder is definitely the way to go.

    https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12154

    [MORE]

    The “Recommended Daily Intake” (RDI) for Vitamin C is a Big Pharma sponsored scam, in fact their ultimate agenda is to ban supplements like Vitamin C from the general public – all the better to keep everyone captive in a chronic disease state to feed their juicy revenues forever.

    They’ve already tried to ban the availability of therapeutic amounts of all vitamin supplements in Europe and America (and from there, the rest of the world) –

    https://www.medsnews.com/health/why-is-fda-trying-to-ban-all-vitamins/

    https://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/11/fda-stealth-codex-2012-bans-vitamins-can-cause-disease-and-mega-death.html

    https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2003/7/report_eu

    There are deliberately ineffective levels (such as specified by the RDI’s), and safe levels, and potentially toxic levels, of any of the essential supplemental nutrients such as Vitamins C & D & E, and Zinc & Selenium & Magnesium, etc – all very relevant with the Corona Chan “pandemic” and the untested experimental “vaccines”. Best to do one’s own research to be sure.

    Vitamin C is a good example. Taking the milligram amounts of the RDI is enough to keep scurvy at bay, nothing more. The body will tell you when it’s getting too much, by giving you the trots. Backing off from that level enough to stop the trots will tell you when you are getting enough (typically somewhere around several grams per day).

    Vitamin D is also another good example. The RDI is 600 IU (15 micrograms) for adults and 800 IU (20 micrograms) for the elderly. Different authorities variously warn against supplementing with more than 4,000 IU (100 micrograms) of Vitamin D per day, but creepy Bill’s Mini-Me Fauci admits to personally supplementing with 6,000 IU (150 micrograms) per day. While toxicity can arise from overdosing on supplements, apparently the same doesn’t apply to the Vitamin D in foods. And here’s the critical information – apparently 20 minutes of full-body exposure to sunlight produces somewhere between 10,000 – 20,000 IU (250 – 500 micrograms) of Vitamin D in the body. So chances are we actually require Vitamin D (from all sources) in the 1,000’s of IU (x 25’s of micrograms) per day, for optimum health (and more if in a sickly state). Best from sunlight and food, but you do what you can.

    As already suggested, best to do one’s own research, and take the best steps one can to look after one’s own health (because, unfortunately, it’s hard to trust anyone else with this nowadays).

    • Agree: Kali, Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Franz
  306. mh505 says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    Stranger things have happened.

  307. geokat62 says:
    @Mevashir

    Calling them Zionists is just an excuse for passivity and doing nothing.

    On the contrary. Identifying them as Zionists is motivation for activity and doing something.

  308. Corvinus says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    So I imagine you are organizing this protest movement in your locality and are willing to share with everyone your progress, right? If not, you are simply wasting precious digital ink.

  309. JoeFour says:
    @Levtraro

    Oh please! Use any browser you want!

    My point (which seems to have flown widely over your head!) was simply that folks should hold their criticisms and complaints of PCR’s citation of a motorcycle death being classified as Covid until they’ve at least made the quick and easy internet search on the issue … which I did in less than a minute.

    • Replies: @Paul Craig Roberts
  310. Wild Man says:
    @bayviking

    I dunno …. I think you might not be seeing the whole picture here with Fauci. There has been just so much, narrative-wise, that has come for Fauci, that is completely illogical. I’ll give you just a little taste of the latest on that. Here is what I sent to a friend this morning, about Fauci’s most recent illogical comments. Here is what I wrote to my friend:

    Hi Dave:

    I’ll drop my anti-Fauci rhetoric for the moment. Let’s just consider whether what Fauci is now saying is logical or illogical, and let’s drop my moral-outrage (for the moment) that I have been practicing, over Fauci as someone whom purports to be logical, is taxpayer-paid to be logical … yet whom nevertheless is illogical, … whom therefore should be judged accordingly, morally, because of his over-sized influence over these said taxpayer’s personal health. I’ll just drop the moral-conclusion part of the equation, stemming from such public servant’s dedication to the ‘illogic’, for the moment … and just zero in on whether Fauci is indeed being logical or illogical.

    OK … in that vein see this:

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/07/16/fauci-stunning-people-do-not-want-to-get-vaccinated-its-a-folly-of-thinking/

    Watch the whole clip very carefully. Fauci presents an illogical argument – no? Fauci conflates the age-related wild covid risk-gradients, which are hugely steep gradients (many orders of magnitude of risk difference between the least risky age-cohorts vs. the most risky age-cohorts, the difference is as much as 100,000x, with all kinds of age-cohort-related nodes of risk, in-between – approx. 1 chance in 500,000 of dying from wild covid once contracted, for 12-year-olds … all the way to one chance in 5, as occurred in many long-term-care-facilities), ….. en-masse conflated with the average wild covid risk-gradients for all cohorts combined, which is about one chance in 700 of dying from wild covid once contracted, (and Dave …. it so happens that the age-cohort we are in, let’s say early ’60’s, nodes-out, at about the average …. one chance in 700).

    This allows Fauci to make blanket recommendations that certainly may make sense for some groups (say – people 50 and over), which make no sense whatsoever, for other groups. For instance, at about 1:45 of the vid he says …. “and the risk for those that are not vaccinated is substantial”. Well …. true for some, but not for others – right? In my view he should say that. But he doesn’t.

    At about 4:15 Fauci says – “where there would be an increased risk of the vaccine not being as effective, as it originally was” (i.e. – by way of the unvaccinated getting sick and circulating mutations). But he has this precisely backwards – no? What about the Israeli report that shows (quoting myself from my attached July 13th email of 2:51 p.m.): “exposure to a wild covid infection, ….. offers 7x the efficacy against infection/reinfection vs. vaxx”? Doesn’t this show that those that are vaccinated harbor the seeds of the vaxx-immune-escape that Fauci is worried about (as he should be worried about), and not the unvaccinated?

    Here again is a link to the recent Isreali report I referecned above:

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

    Then, near the end of the vid, starting at about 6:18, Fauci implies that the unvaccinated should still wear masks (without actually saying so), and in many jurisdictions (depending on current infection rates in said jurisdictions), in some cases (where local infection rates are high and vaccination rates are low) … the vaccinated perhaps should wear masks to protect themselves from the on-going local virulence, as Fauci implies is as caused by the unvaccinated. But we already know the masks have virtually no efficacy. So once gain Fauci offers illogic, instead of logic.

    Alright Dave …. I ain’t gonna smash Fauci here, for the continued illogic offered, …. because this time I want you to work that out by your own mental effort. Why would Fauci offer illogic instead of logic? Is he a midwit and doesn’t understand his own field of expertise? (Personally … I highly doubt it is that). Alternatively, do you think Fauci has an ulterior, covert agenda? If so, what do you think said agenda would be? Do you view Fauci, as a powerful trusted public servant, …. trusted to provide logic … as immoral …. for either incompetence (if it’s that, then it is immoral to stand in the way of the competent …. thus the moral command – ‘know thyself’), or even more severely immoral …due to purposeful shirking of his public responsibilities?

    So, …. who knows precisely why Fauci appears to be orchestrating? (I don’t). Yet he does appear to be orchestrating, nevertheless – no?

    • Replies: @michael888
  311. JasonT says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    The polynucleotides and polypeptides and parts thereof that have been patented may indeed exist. All living cells have these chemical compounds, and in fact they operate the way they do because of these chemical compounds.

    As I described in my other post, these polynucleotides and polypeptides may simply be cellular debris from the cell cultures from which the viruses are ‘isolated’. The entirety of the discipline of virology is predicated on an ‘isolation’ procedure that does not control for this possibility. Thus, what is being patented may very well be that cellular debris, and not some quasi-living independent thing that infects host organisms.

    I recall a paper from the 1950’s that at least partially explored this notion, and the author made the statement that exosomes (packages of RNA and protein) produced by cell death looked the same as the viral particles, and that it was impossible to state definitively that the viral particles were not themselves such exosomes.

    • Thanks: Nancy, Liza
  312. https://richieallen.co.uk/irish-ice-hockey-star-resigns-in-protest-over-vaccine-passports/
    „I can no longer represent a country that has approved of the discrimination and segregation between vaccinated people and unvaccinated people.“
    Someone with integrity, an intact moral compass and cojones.

  313. Anon[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @frankie p

    What is astounding is Macron’s lack of political finesse. His speech was incendiary, he could have simply left it to his Health Minister or whoever, and lowballed it into Senate. It’s almost as if they wanted to count protesters in every city.

    The restaurant owner who does not control “ the unvaccinated” in the open air terrace is liable to fines and a year in prison. Europe, Quo vadis?

    Leftist Melenchon, himself vaccinated, and several vaccinated conservative leaders have opposed the measure. Melenchon’s speech was very, very good. When the Left worries about government overreach, one should prick one’s ears.

  314. utu says:
    @HCQ

    In Africa 65+ yo fraction of population is much lower than in EU and US. For Italy it is 23% while for Tanzania it is 3.1% so mortality rate (IFR) in Tanzania would be at least 7.4 times lower than Italy. The difference will be even greater for 70+ or 80+.

    Why is that the nutters like PCR never look at the 1st world countries where we can trust statistics and which achieved low rate of infection by effective mitigation policies: contact tracing, border closures, lockdowns, social distancing and maskings? Look up data for Taiwan and New Zealand. And also for Norway.

    • Troll: Alfred
    • Replies: @Erebus
  315. @Tjoe

    This might explain my positive SARS-COV2 AB test with no memerable symptoms:
    College days… EA Purple Passion Punch (excessive amounts)…

    Also, my final GPA.

  316. @Mevashir

    Thanks … but it doesn’t change my original comment.

  317. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    Obviously you are not Gordon Duff. Articles of your authorship are respected and admired for your research, honesty and courage. However as a publisher you are inching closer to Gordon Duff level by publishing content which is a total junk. Publishing articles by Paul Craig Roberts, Mike Whitney or Gilad Aztmon about their deranged take on the pandemic is totally irresponsible. You can’t separate yourself as an author from you as a publisher. Your reputation as an author is tarnished by the junk you publish. If you think you can or do not care why don’t you get pornography section as well? It may increase clicks even more than Paul Craig Robert nonsense. Paul Craig Roberts, Mike Whitney or Gilad Aztmon have plenty of places where they can push their idiocies. Internet is full of it. That they are “Excluded from the American Mainstream Media” is a copout.

    • Disagree: Kali
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Schuetze
  318. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Of course he doesn’t name the effects so there is no way to tell if they were different or not.

    And here is another set of nonsense, albeit published:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/16/climate-regulation-changed-with-the-proliferation-of-marine-animals-and-terrestrial-plants/

  319. utu says:
    @Anon

    “ That’s because the only source of new coronavirus variants is the body of an infected person.” – What do you find it controversial?

    • Replies: @Anon
  320. @HCQ

    This comment is only partially correct. Malaria’s resistance to HCQ has not resulted in a complete transition to artemisinin-based combination therapies. “CQ usage has continued for many years after the switch in national policies for the treatment of P.f.” P.f. stands for Plasmodium falciparum malaria — https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3820326/

    The study concludes: “The spatial trend of CQ use reduction in African countries post policy change is illustrated in Figure S6. There are countries in East and West Africa with slow and fast reduction of CQ use, i.e., there is no obvious spatial pattern in the reduction of CQ use.”

    HCQ use has persisted because the replacement therapy (ACT) cost 25 times more: In Africa only a handful of countries with P. vivax recommend CQ. “However, CQ usage has persisted for many years after policy change. Studies have shown that between 40% and 60% of those who seek treatment of fever in malaria-endemic countries access drugs in the private sector, where CQ and SP (an earlier HCQ replacement) are up to 25 times less expensive than an ACT. In fact, this price differential was a primary motivation for the formation of the Affordable Medicines Facility—malaria (AMFm), a program designed to address this disparity. Furthermore, despite treatment guidelines that recommend ACTs, SP and CQ remain registered in many countries and because they are authorized to move through the marketplace, are highly available.”

    As a malaria preventative, the artemisinin-based therapies could have similar properties to HCQ and thereby provide similar protection against Covid as HCQ.

    The fact remains that according to the World Health Organization, over the entire length of the Covid pandemic Tanzania has only 509 cases and 21 deaths attributed to Covid. Tanzania’s population is nearly 60,000,000, which means that Covid is a non-existent problem for Tanzania.

  321. @Dave Bowman

    Nope, not for PCR. There’s already a new one up, with no commenting, as usual.

  322. @HCQ

    Comments # 55 and # 305 are only partially correct. Malaria’s resistance to HCQ has not resulted in a complete transition to artemisinin-based combination therapies. “CQ usage has continued for many years after the switch in national policies for the treatment of P.f.” P.f. stands for Plasmodium falciparum malaria –https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3820326/

    The study concludes: “The spatial trend of CQ use reduction in African countries post policy change is illustrated in Figure S6. There are countries in East and West Africa with slow and fast reduction of CQ use, i.e., there is no obvious spatial pattern in the reduction of CQ use.”

    HCQ use has persisted because the replacement therapy (ACT) cost 25 times more: In Africa only a handful of countries with P. vivax recommend CQ. “However, CQ usage has persisted for many years after policy change. Studies have shown that between 40% and 60% of those who seek treatment of fever in malaria-endemic countries access drugs in the private sector, where CQ and SP (an earlier HCQ replacement) are up to 25 times less expensive than an ACT. In fact, this price differential was a primary motivation for the formation of the Affordable Medicines Facility—malaria (AMFm), a program designed to address this disparity. Furthermore, despite treatment guidelines that recommend ACTs, SP and CQ remain registered in many countries and because they are authorized to move through the marketplace, are highly available.”

    As a malaria preventative, the artemisinin-based therapies could have similar properties to HCQ and thereby provide similar protection against Covid as HCQ.

    The fact remains that according to the World Health Organization, over the entire length of the Covid pandemic Tanzania has only 509 cases and 21 deaths attributed to Covid. Tanzania’s population is nearly 60,000,000, which means that Covid is a non-existent problem for Tanzania.

    • Replies: @HCQ
    , @Commentator Mike
  323. @CanSpeccy

    Both terms are used: memory RNA and messanger RNA. It makes no difference to me or to my presentation which term a reader prefers.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Wade
  324. (There is a grating inaccuracy which should be corrected. Pfizer and Moderna made mRNA vaccines (“messenger” RNA not “memory” RNA).
    Covid-19 is a disease of the Elderly; the reason so far is unclear (probably nutritional deficits common in the Elderly are at least part of the problem), but most Covid-19 deaths globally are over age 80. One in six infected 80 year old will die, and these Elderly account for the majority of long-haulers as well. 95% of victims are over age 60 globally (the US claims 95% over age 50, but that is very suspicious, it’s the same virus all over, with the successful variants everywhere.) These Vulnerable people benefit greatly from the vaccines, as do those 5% of the younger with cancer and organ transplants or other serious co-morbidities.
    The vast majority do not need vaccines, and probably natural immunity (prevalent in areas with high infection rates– Stockholm, NYC and London, for example) produces a better (?), longer lasting immunity than the vaccines. Early in the pandemic several coronavirus experts noted that cellular immunity (particularly T memory cells) was more important than antibody titers for natural immunity to coronaviruses. Vaccines are great at generating high antibody titers to the S-protein (ONLY) of SARS-CoV2 which binds to human ACE2. While protective and saving lives of millions of the Elderly, such vaccine antibodies theoretically carry huge risk if antibody enhancement occurs (if the virus evolves to avoid/bypass these massive vaccine antibody titers, which may even protect the virus from natural immunity.) Unlikely, hopefully. Dengue strains are the best studied example.
    The alternative medicines mentioned in the article were politicized by Trump and his media enemies. The only effective treatment for serious Covid-19 infection is acute glucocorticoids (avoided in the US until late last summer, still not FDA approved for Covid-19). Some monoclonal antibodies and clot busters may help particular infected patients. Vaccines obviously take weeks to a month to protect and are useless in infected patients.
    In addition to reversing nutritional deficits (vitamins such as D3, and minerals such as zinc, selenium and magnesium, and other nutrients for normal health function in all people), there are a number of preventative (prophylactic) pre-treatments which lack the Pharma-funded clinical trials which the FDA requires (thus remdesivir– useless according to the WHO– is FDA approved for Covid-19, and glucorticoids, cheap and standard of care NOW, are not). Generally these prophylactic drugs must be taken for some time before infection. Ivermectin is most used now, though heavily censored by Silicon Valley at the government’s direction.
    HCQ, derided by the media in reaction to Trump’s endorsement, is as noted, an old malarial drug (though malaria is now mostly resistant to chloroquine drugs). It is still heavily used in the US for chronic treatments of lupus and arthritis. Importantly, HCQ requires weeks or months of loading to exert its effects (not mentioned by media). HCQ is extremely safe (heart effects, pushed by the media, only occur in cases of overdosing– chronic dosing (years) for autoimmunity is rarely associated with ocular toxicity.) In India, HCQ was approved in 2014 for diabetes treatment, supposedly being equivalent to expensive SGLT-2 inhibitors. Note that Silicon Valley allows/ encorages the nonsensical attacks on HCQ by State media. The possible mechanisms of HCQ (and ivermectin, fluvoxamine, colchicine, famotidine, quercetin, etc) on Covid-19 is not clear. Likely they have different mechanisms of protection, and combined treatments during a dangerous pandemic is reasonable.
    While the media also derided Trump’s “bleach” (he actually said “disinfectant”). Povidone iodine, a disinfectant, is being used in mouthwashes and nasal injection/irrigation (Neti pots) in many countries. It’s unknown if any alternative pre-treatments are responsible for the spectacularly lower Covid-19 death rates in SE Asia than in the West.
    But the West has the vaccines, right? They are 85-95% effective, thus with 150 million Americans getting the jab(s) there are 5 to 25 million who have no (partial?) protection from the virus (although most would handle Covid-19 just fine anyway). The Elderly however might want to be treated with alternatives in parallel to receiving the vaccines.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Wild Man
    , @john cronk
  325. What is clear is the US Goverment was involved in the development of this virus. The US Goverment may be responsible for it release perhaps in collusion with China?

    It is also well noted that it is a fools.errand to vaccine into a pandemic. You are enabling mutations by forcing the virus to fight fr its survival. Corona viruses are noted for fast mutations. In fact severla experts predicted “variants” first coming from Brazil, South Africa and UK becausw that was were the alpha trials were conducted and thus the first variants to emerge.

    What a shit show.

    BTW Faucista was the one that brought the debacle of AZT that killed gay men by the thousands. The drug killed men who could enhance their chances of survival by simply changing their lifestyle. The parallels to the current theatre is amazing

  326. @Levtraro

    This comment is misleading and essentially incorrect and irrelevant.
    The comment is correct that there are mRNA and vester Covid vaccines. They both work by delivering the Spike Protein. Therefore, my statement that they have the same problems is correct. The problem is the Spike Protein.

    The comment is also incorrect in saying that the adverse effects data bases do not contain data on deaths. The CDC issues weekly updates. They contain all adverse effects, serious adverse effects, and deaths. The Yellow Card system also provides deaths.

    I give the sources for all the figures used. Perhaps the commentator should check the sources.

    The EudraVigilance database reports that through July 3, 2021 there are 17,503 deaths and 1,687,527 injuries reported following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots:

    COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE MODERNA (CX-024414)
    COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE PFIZER-BIONTECH
    COVID-19 VACCINE ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19)
    COVID-19 VACCINE JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S)

  327. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    However as a publisher you are inching closer to Gordon Duff level by publishing content which is a total junk. Publishing articles by Paul Craig Roberts, Mike Whitney or Gilad Aztmon about their deranged take on the pandemic is totally irresponsible. You can’t separate yourself as an author from you as a publisher. Your reputation as an author is tarnished by the junk you publish.

    Okay, and you’ve also previously condemned Israel Shamir on the same grounds. But haven’t you also regularly denounced this website for publishing Steve Sailer, John Derbyshire, and Anatoly Karlin on grounds of their “racism”? I assume Paul Kersey, Jared Taylor, Gregory Hood, and many other contributors would also fall into that same category.

    Taken together, wouldn’t that constitute something like half of all our writers, and probably a large majority of all our total posts and columns? If I banned everyone you suggest, what would be left of the entire publication?

  328. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    If I banned everyone you suggest, what would be left of the entire publication?

    The NYT, WaPo, and WSJ?

  329. @Ron Unz

    But haven’t you also regularly denounced this website for publishing Steve Sailer, John Derbyshire, and Anatoly Karlin on grounds of their “racism”?

    I don’t think that I’ve read anything which I would consider “racist” by any of them. I know that the mainstream would disagree, but there doesn’t seem to be anything malign in their writings whatsoever. Is it racist to say that black people committ more crime – even because of genetics? I don’t think so. Is it sexist to say that men committ more crime because of genetics?

  330. Verity says:
    @Maddaugh

    “If it was a bioattack, it failed.” However if the intent was to deny Trump the presidency, it was 1 00% successful. Little lagniappes were the huge economic benefits to the super corporate class and the social control gained by governments.

  331. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    You’re disinfo, I’m disinfo, everyone is disinfo.

    In the Matrix, I would gladly take the red pill, but in your narrative, I would sacrifice my own legs for a taste of that sweet blue.

    It is an incessantly exhausting worldview. Reading about it makes me feel like I have to constantly tense every muscle in my body just to stop every particle in the world from invading. How do you cope?

  332. If HCB and ivermectin work against covid-19, Brazil would have fewer deaths. The Brazilian government has authorized the use of these substances. He created the covid kit, and distributed it to the population. But deaths only started to decrease when vaccination was started. Vaccination started with the elderly, by coincidence the age range of deaths changed, with the virus starting to kill more young people who were not vaccinated.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
  333. Wild Man says:
    @michael888

    Your comment:

    “Covid-19 is a disease of the Elderly”

    The striking feature of covid-19 as caused by sars-cov-2, is the hugely steep age-related risk-gradients. In the neighborhood of 100,000-fold increase, in risk, for a 12-year-old vs. a resident of a long-term-care facility (with a fairly smooth risk-gradient curve, for risk-nodes in-between said cohorts). I explain this risk-gradient in a bit more detail in comment #321 above.

    Why is this? It must have something to do with age-related metabolic damage having a profound impact on the etiology of covid-19. We don’t know the precise mechanism for this (yet there has been alot of speculation). What is it about this particular virus that produces such an astoundingly steep age-related risk-gradient? I would venture that it has something to do with particular qualities of the spike protein itself. This is all so nuts. Isn’t this all so obvious? But apparently it isn’t. Weird. The astoundingly steep age-related risk-gradient is a feature and not an anomalous data point, as far as I can tell. And then we continue to hear about several possible pathogenic pathways for the singular spike protein on it’s own, as interfacing and interfering with homeostatic metabolic pathways…. yet this is still very controversial … heavily censored ….. and therefore not confirmed.

    And of course all the vaxxes eventuate the expression of the spike protein, using the body’s own cellular mechanisms to eventuate that expression. And we also find out there has been extensive research done on coronavirus spike protein morphology and other measures of interface potential (interface with the body’s metabolic pathways), for many years now, particularly for Sars-Cov-1.

    There is a trail of clues here – no? This trail of clues points to a gain-of-function-designed-monstrosity as a potentially cogent theory – no? I am not saying that is the only cogent theory, but it is among the shortlist, at this juncture – no?

    • Thanks: Polemos
    • Replies: @michael888
  334. @bayviking

    “All information on MSM clearly state 97% of all new Covid-19 hospitalizations are for unvaccinated”
    patients. I trust most doctors and ALL nurses”…….then name-calling “paranoid loony toons”

    Wow, just wow.

    Just who is the “Looney Tune?”

    May I suggest some internet search fun for you? Type “FDA approved drugs later recalled and banned”….the lists are long. Thousands killed or disabled by “FDA APPROVED” drugs……and this crap that (((THEY))) want to pump in you is NOT even FDA approved.

  335. @Anonymous

    If I drink Tonic water, it will be with 1.5oz of a good gin and a healthy wedge of fresh lime.
    A great summer time drink.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  336. Emslander says:
    @The Real World

    That sounds like an awful bout with a very severe illness. It doesn’t resemble anything like the symptoms of SARS2Covid19 that I’ve heard from close friends and family members. They WERE diagnosed as having the Covid.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  337. Kali says:
    @Tjoe

    I tried to respond to this “ethyl alcohol” recomendation earlier but had used my quota of posts.

    If anyone is foolish enough to imagine that “burning” ones synuses and lungs inhaling ethyl alcohol only harms “the virus”, and not the mucus membrain, then maybe they’re reading the wrong website.

    I sincerely hope no-one here is taking your advice seriously. Ethyl alchohol makes you go blind if you drink it.

    High probiotic fermented foods support the immune system. Check the inyernet for info on fermenting and health, and also for recipies.

    Fermented lemon is very high in probiotics and packs a punch with its flavour too (one of my personal favourites).

    Kali

    • Replies: @acementhead
  338. Anon[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Dishonest. The title says “the unvaccinated are variant factories”, which is what stays in people’s minds. That’s the spiel for pushing mandatory vaccination.

    But if you read carefully —which most people don’t— the “expert” then goes on to say “because only the infected person can cause variants”. He conflates “infected” with “unvaccinated”. And most non-careful readers will then insist (even hysterically insist) that “the unvaccinated are variant factories”. Ergo they must be mandatorily vaccinated, kids included. Or become pariahs.

    Truth is, leaky vaccines allow infection. So today we have:
    – vaccinated infected, generating mutations
    – unvaccinated infected, generating mutations
    – animal reservoirs, infected, generating mutations.

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2021-06-08/coronavirus-strategy-forever-virus

    CNN pushes a fearsome dishonest narrative, to divide the population and make the vaccinated into social enforcers of the damn vaccines.

    Do you think mandatory vaccination is good public policy?

    Don’t you think the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and AZ vaccines have extravagant side effects? Should we reevaluate mass vaccination, maybe using known technologies?

    The New England Journal of Medicine published the successful case of Chile, using inactivated virus vaccine
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2107715?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed

    It makes sense, at this point July 2021 and with these covid vaccines, to be “vaccine hesitant”. How many Pfizer boosters shots for young people? It’s like playing Russian roulette. Better to give treatment while safer options are deployed.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @utu
  339. RestiveUs says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Who knows?…In Gates’ mind, the entire world may be a Microsoft domain, where humanity is merely user objects that can be created, configured, grouped and governed by policy, and ultimately deleted at the whims of the “administrators”.

  340. @RestiveUs

    Neo-feudalism is like that, serf.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Replies: @RestiveUs
  341. @Anon

    ‘Utu’ could sleep on a corkscrew. Born bent, then recruited by BigPharma. ‘Dishonest’ is his middle name.

    • Replies: @Anon
  342. @Kali

    “Ethyl alchohol(sic) makes you go blind if you drink it.”

    No it doesn’t. I have personally probably drunk 300Kg of ethanol in my life and I’m only light to low moderate drinker. Many people will have drunk more than a ton of ethanol and not gone blind.

    Maybe you are thinking of methanol? Different name, different molecule, different effect. Funny that.

  343. @Emslander

    I didn’t describe it all. As you can see, if you have an extended illness, it gets quite involved so, I didn’t supply every detail.

    The rash is a unique feature that some Covid-positive experience…as are the long-lasting symptoms. Seasonal flu is not known for either, to my knowledge.

    There was no test to take when I had that illness and I haven’t bothered with the antibody test because I am unsure of it’s accuracy and really prefer to just not have my name attached to any Covid database.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  344. @Badger Down

    And its relevance to current HCQ use?

    Which was, of course the topic of that little threadlet?

  345. Anon[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I don’t believe so, but can’t defend his anti-treatment posts, or his reluctance to question the drift the pandemic is taking.

    • Replies: @utu
  346. @follyofwar

    “608,000 goners and 34 million hits ain’t nothing to be proud of Matthew !” said Festus when checking trumped up stats on Dillon’s rival….

  347. @Paul Craig Roberts

    I have no idea where “vester” came from. The word should be “vector” as in the update to my article. PCR
    Yes, I do know where it came from. From my new Mac, the spell program of which changes words to suit itself without giving the writer any notice. I noticed it when in this note the software changed “vester” to “vested,” which I wouldn’t have noticed if I had not reread it.

  348. @Tsar Nicholas

    Beast thus far has been beat only in China –Lockdowns do work.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  349. utu says:
    @Anon

    “Dishonest.” – I do not thinks so. If vaccine efficacy is 95% then the vaccinated have 20 fold lower chance of getting infected so it makes sense to say that the unvaccinated are much more likely to be the source of new variants.

    “Do you think mandatory vaccination is good public policy?” – Yes, when you can enforce it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Greta Handel
  350. Ber says:

    An early cartoon on “How to take over the world”
    Seems to describe present pandemic very well. Co-incidence?

    • Thanks: InnerCynic
    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  351. RestiveUs says:
    @RoatanBill

    The same way a mule has the horse-sense to sit on its ass when pushed too far? I suppose stopping the wagon for a while beats getting shot, but didn’t the Soviets get around that with the gulag/forced labor system?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  352. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    Both terms are used: memory RNA and messanger RNA. It makes no difference to me or to my presentation which term a reader prefers.

    I know of no reference to MemoryRNA other than in Star Trek.

    But then I received my PhD in molecular biology many decades ago, so what would I know.

  353. @Sisifo

    Or maybe viruses have exposed the problem that we never discovered what “life”, “alive”, “living” mean. Haven’t progressed beyond the idea of the soul.

    If a virus is just a molecule but reproduces, and by different means than cell division, how is it not a living thing?

    And who has published the chemical structure of the Corona-19 virus? Can you draw it for me? Being suppressed?

    Maybe I should ask the old lady in London with a Corona on her head, who doesn’t visit Julian Assange.

  354. utu says:
    @Levtraro

    “So the 17+ thousand deaths figure seems to be completely made-up” – Good point. Thanks.

    Here (July 14)

    https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/european-agency-confirms-covid-19-vaccine-fatalities
    “The European Medicines Agency (EMA) published a safety update on July 14, 2021 that summarise the data that have become available since each COVID-19 vaccine’s authorization. ”

    ( I was unble to locate the orinal document from European Medicines Agency.)

    Pfizer-BioNTech 3,848 deaths 276 million doses. (13.9 per million)
    AstraZeneca 938 deaths 58.4 million doses. (16.1 per million)
    COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna 347 deaths 35 million doses (9.9 per million)
    COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen 68 deaths 8.5 million doses. (8 per million)

    The total is over 3x lower than what GlobalResearch claimed and what PCR broadcasted.

    The differences in death/million between vaccines possibly are partly due to different age demographics of each vaccine recipients.

    I do not think the deaths are officially considered as caused by vaccination events or vaccine yet. They will have to look closely at each case and remove natural random deaths occurrences. In Europe approximately 10,000 people per million die each year. If you randomly pick 1 million people 190 of them will die within 7 days.

  355. utu says:
    @Anon

    Thanks. My ‘anti-treatment posts’ i.e. about HCQ or ivermectin or vid D or zinc ‘miracle cures’ are based on results from double blind studies that do not support claims made by Didier Raoult, Pierre Kory, Peter McCullough or Joseph Mercola and many others.

    Recently much touted meta study by the BIRD group in UK fell apart

    https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/07/16/ivermectin-is-the-new-hydroxychloroquine-take-4/
    Ivermectin is the new hydroxychloroquine, take 4: Fraud, incompetence, or both?

    • Replies: @Anon
  356. @RestiveUs

    Trying to force people to work when they don’t want to wouldn’t fly too well in the US. As soon as the regime tried to force truck drivers to drive or sanitation workers to pick up trash, for example, the unions would object strenuously as would most of the population. There’s no law being broken, so how could the gov’t possibly convince the citizenry that they have the right to bully people that haven’t broken any laws?

    At a minimum, the people doing a sit down strike would get an airing in the media about their reasons and I’m sure they’d all claim to go back to work if the stupid rules being put in place were eliminated. Once their grievances are publicly announced, fairness in the average person’s mind would say they’re right and the tide would turn against any gov’t action.

    Having said that, I don’t doubt that they’ll come up with methods short of physically threatening people to try to get compliance. Right now, states are paying people via lotteries and corporations are incentivizing getting the jab with free donuts, etc, so ways will be found to try to budge people.

    If not a sit down strike, what? What’s your idea?

    Violence is exactly what the gov’t would like for people to do so they could claim the right to put down an actual physical rebellion. I say don’t give them what they want since in any violent confrontation, they’ll win anyway. Just stop supporting the system that is determined to destroy the quality of life for people that can see through the constant lies and propaganda the gov’t puts out.

    • Replies: @RestiveUs
  357. HCQ says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    I am not disagreeing with the data from Tanzania but simply your rationale. In addition to malaria being resistant to HCQ it is also a fallacy that Tanzanians take anything for prophylaxis. Simple test kits are readily available over the counter; few Africans could afford prophylaxis nor trust it as it is not 100% effective, not to mention possible long term affects
    When I worked at the US Embassy in Malawi they recommended we take methloquine but after speaking with several USAID staff, they recommended against it because of the length of their tours. In addition it is easy to confuse malaria with the flu and those on prophylaxis make this mistake because they believe they are protected (much like the covid vaccines) I did get malaria but it was easily treated with quinine and fansisar.
    When I traveled to Togo in 2019, doxycicline was being recommended but I did not bother. I prefer taking medicine when I am sick rather than risk the body builing up a tolerance.

    • Replies: @Silicon Silence
  358. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Pfizer real life efficacy, per Israeli government, is 64%. Agree it provides a relative protection so it can make sense as an individual choice. The side effects are terrible, so can’t agree on the mandatory thing. CNN knows that, as well as the fact that Israel is closed to vaccinated tourists.

    In France, your will soon have to carry on you an official ID and official vaccination card, to be produced in the supermarket, bistro or train, when an employee asks “Your papers?”. Appalling.

    The old question: is it licit to condemn a person to death or disability if that saves ten, a hundred, a thousand lives? What’s the Solzhenitsyn line?? “ The line between good and evil passes through our heart?”

    This is up your alley, it was “retracted” but uses Israeli data. “ For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.“ What’s your opinion?

    https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693

  359. HCQ says:
    @bayviking

    Any idea how the hospital even knows if someone is vaccinated? I have also seen many MSM news clips of someone discussing their or a family members severe adverse affects but always in the same breath saying they still recommend everyone get vaccinated – everyone I have seen includes this.

  360. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    “ Grftr News has discovered that the authors of an oft-cited study purporting to show a strong benefit when using ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19 may have fabricated their data and plagiarised large portions of their paper. ”

    Utu… interminable blog posts with links to other interminable blog posts styled “respectful insolence” or “grifter”.. is that you? Don’t you have kids?

    • Replies: @utu
  361. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    I thought, possibly incorrectly, that you have created this webzine as the vehicle for publication of your own articles because you had no sufficient control over the American Conservative to make it publish your articles. Possibly you had also a greater vision as well but if so it remains obscured to me.

    So you have created an ecosystem by populating it with specimens of your choice that were available on the market. You are the creator of that ecosystem and you bear sole responsibility for what it is and who lives in the ecosystem of your webzine. Did you make good choices? Only time will tell. But choices have consequences.

    I was pointing to one of them trying to appeal to your self interest: If you go to bed with dogs you wake up with fleas. Your intellectual legacy will be tarnished by the company you keep. You admit to being irritated by having the space under your recent article cluttered by all kinds of anti-vaxxers. What they do to the discourse under you article they do on much larger scale to the political discourse in our country. They are clearly a part of an obscurantist revolt of the masses. It is very possible that the revolt is being steered by outside forces. The enemies of this country and our civilization can rejoice and be flooded with the feeling of schadenfreude. By publishing authors like Paul Craig Roberts, Mike Whitney or Gilad Aztmon the overall direct impact of it is low, as your website has limited reach but still you contribute to a very negative and dangerous trend and by remunerating the authors you inject money into ten anti-vaxxer movement that you personally deplore.

    As far as the racist/racialist contingent on your webzine I obviously do not like it. Its pseudo-scientific posture is a sham. Their doctrines and gospels have no future except for the post-apocalyptic retrograde scenarios where nobody wants to go. But while we are still here in the world as we know it the writers of the racist/racialist contingent divide and detract us from values of the common good and constructive options that do exist.

  362. No point reading past the first 4 words! “The virus is real.” = LOL!! No, everybody knows ‘corona’ is just regular seasonal colds & flus (((Rebranded))) as excuse 2 ruin white nations & others so the (((bank\$ters))) can \$teal the wreckage easier. I woldn’t B surprised if the article goes around blaming China 4 everythign tha jooz do on top of this =))

  363. utu says:
    @Anon

    Listen, double blind randomized studies are the only way to verify the claims of efficacy, particularly when te efficacy is not overwhelming. If you do not have the studies then you just as well may accept blood letting as a useful treatment.

    Huge study supporting ivermectin as Covid treatment withdrawn over ethical concerns (Jul 15)
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

    “The main error is that at least 79 of the patient records are obvious clones of other records,” Brown told the Guardian. “It’s certainly the hardest to explain away as innocent error, especially since the clones aren’t even pure copies. There are signs that they have tried to change one or two fields to make them look more natural.”

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  364. Schuetze says:

    This really sums up planet earth today, except the dark pieces on the other side are the international organizations and NGO’s like the UN, WHO, UNESCO, GAVI, Gates Foundation, Ford Foundation, etc. We the people of the planet are huddled on our hands and knees supporting the chessboard. Meanwhile the ones playing the chess pieces are tribes of Hebrews. It is not clear precisely who the to groups are, but I would suggest that it is likely a game between the Rothschilds and the Chabad Lubbowitz.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
  365. Schuetze says:
    @utu

    Anyone visiting the UR comments section for any length of time already knows that utu is a total douchebag. This comment not only proves that he is an egomaniac, but also that he is psychopath. Obviously utu is not a believer in free speech.

    The fact that Run Unz has not banned utu already is additional proof that Ron Unz is no hypocrite when it comes to following his own Mission Statement. The fact that utu continues to pollute the comments section with comments like this one shows that he is one.

    • Agree: Theophrastus
  366. Schuetze says:
    @utu

    “The enemies of this country and our civilization can rejoice and be flooded with the feeling of schadenfreude.”

    Utu’s egomania rearing its ugly head once again. Utu has crowned itself emperor of all knowledge and judgement of who the “enemies of this country and our civilization are” while hiding behind a cloak of anonymity. We don’t know its gender, age, nationality or race, but I think the evidence is becoming overwhelming that it is some kind of Hasbara agent.

    “You are the creator of that ecosystem and you bear sole responsibility for what it is and who lives in the ecosystem of your webzine.”

    This is a typical veiled threat that we hear all the time coming from this tribe of racial supremacists.

    I would far rather read comments from people like Assange or Snowden, or even Brievik, Tarrant or Paddock, than this scumbag who calls itself “utu”. It really is the most foul scum scraped up from the bottom of a septic tank.

    Mr. Unz, please do us all a favor and ban it for making threats.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Polemos
  367. @utu

    Hold on here.

    If vaccine efficacy is 95% then the vaccinated have 20 fold lower chance of getting infected so it makes sense to say that the unvaccinated are much more likely to be the source of new variants.

    That rate of efficacy was determined by the relative incidence of defined symptoms, not by the rate of infection or further transmission. You’re honestly not aware of that by now? It’s been noted repeatedly and, to my knowledge, never refuted on numerous threads on this website.

    Your statement neither “makes sense” nor furthers informed discussion.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
    , @utu
  368. @Ron Unz

    I only read through PCR’s article to find another Gotcha after his early error in saying that the Astra Zeneca vaccine was an mRNA vaccine. But he corrected that at the end leaving me to try and satisfy my presumption that PCR couldn’t be relied on by questioning his view that Tanzania has solved the Covid 19 problem by the regular taking of prophylactic doses of hydroxychloroquine against malaria.

    When I started going to a malarial country in 2001 it was already Doxcycline that was being prescribed as prophylactic and commenter GCQ gives good reason to doubt that many Africans were regularly taking the outdated HDCQN even though cheaper. My internet searches have not given any definitive information about anti malarial habits in Africa but I would take a lot of persuading that taking an alleged prophylactic had anything to do with (alleged) low infection and death rates.

    The obvious main focus for honest inquiry should be on the youth of African populations and the uselessness of their diagnostic and cause of death records outside a few big cities.

    It’s a pity because I don’t have a problem in seeing commercial self interest behinf, or at least supporting, the neglect of the trial of the antimalarial and ivermectin at early stages of severe Covid 19. The early reports that they were only being tried when patients were already very ill in ICU seemed ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Silicon Silence
  369. @Greta Handel

    Addendum: For instance, the distinction was conceded by a supporter of the Pfizer, etc., products in a discussion with me under “Floomerism Endorsement” by Anatoly Karlin (June 13, 2021).

    And I now see in this thread that you’re openly calling on the publisher to purge writers with opposing views. If you had your way, would the eraser be big enough to catch comments like mine?

  370. @HCQ

    Well then, how do YOU account for the data/outcomes?
    And how does your view differ (if at all) from the offcial US Embassy view?

  371. Kapyong says:
    @Paul Craig Roberts

    Gday Dr Roberts,
    Thanks for your good work here and there 🙂

    The EudraVigilance database reports that through July 3, 2021 there are 17,503 deaths and 1,687,527 injuries reported following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots:

    Note the warning on the EudraVigilance page about totals :

    “This website does not provide the total number of cases reported with a fatal outcome. It provides the number of cases reported as fatal for specific reactions groups (e.g. cardiac disorders) and for specific reactions (e.g. myocardial infarction). Since one individual case may contain more than one suspected side effect, the sum of the number of fatal cases per reaction group will always be higher than the total number of fatal cases.

  372. Schuetze says:
    @utu

    “If you do not have the studies then you just as well may accept blood letting as a useful treatment.”

    The arrogant prick wanks again. Either you only accept the diktats of corrupted science and rigged tests, or you are a witch doctor. But even worse is how it assumes superiority, as if it was somehow chosen by god.

    • Agree: Theophrastus
    • LOL: Kali
  373. Anon[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Schuetze

    Utu is male, old, Hungarian and white. And, I suspect, afraid.

    The fruits of this damn pandemic are isolation, polarization and bitter intolerance from all parts. It is the breakdown of civilized discourse. Very sad.

    • Thanks: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Schuetze
  374. @Paul Craig Roberts

    The fact remains that according to the World Health Organization, over the entire length of the Covid pandemic Tanzania has only 509 cases and 21 deaths attributed to Covid.

    It looks like Tanzania hasn’t been reporting cases for more than a year. Anyway just wait. There is a third wave hitting Africa right now and Tanzania may not escape it.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  375. @utu

    As far as the racist/racialist contingent on your webzine I obviously do not like it. Its pseudo-scientific posture is a sham. Their doctrines and gospels have no future except for the post-apocalyptic retrograde scenarios where nobody wants to go. But while we are still here in the world as we know it the writers of the racist/racialist contingent divide and detract us from values of the common good and constructive options that do exist.

    The fact that something is scientific or pseudoscientific does not have a proven relationship with it being constructive or working for the common good. Take, for instance, hunting bats in the wild, or publishing research about viruses, natural or otherwise. It’s all perfectly scientific and yet a malevolent individual or group could use the results of those researches for evil purposes, or that research itself could cause accidents of global proportions, as we are perhaps seeing right now.

    Truth does not have an intrinsic value. Whether that enhances your overall point or not is something that I leave for you and others to think about.

  376. Emslander says:
    @The Real World

    There is apparently a lot of “misinformation” from all sides in this strange historical period we can call the Pandemic Period. Your illness was real, I’m sure, and I’m glad you’re feeling somewhat better. In our region, schools were closed for a week in January of 2020 over massive flu-like symptoms. We never heard more of it until the overnight lending markets started going out of control in late February.

  377. @Maddaugh

    Everyone jumped on the stupid story and going back over UR articles Karlin wrote extensive articles with silly cartoon thumbnails and all sorts of colourful graphs predicting deaths in the millions.

    And there have literally been millions of deaths. Not 100,000’s of deaths, nor tens of millions of deaths, which I did not predict, but precisely the millions that I did.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @Not Raul
    , @Realist
    , @Alfred
  378. @utu

    Their doctrines and gospels have no future except for the post-apocalyptic retrograde scenarios where nobody wants to go.

    Disregarding results from the single most replicated branch of psychology is perhaps the surest way to maximize the chances of “post-apocalyptic retrograde scenarios” happening.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
    , @anon
  379. TTSSYF says:
    @Bayviking

    Yeah, Florida would have been much better off if Gillum had won instead of DeSantis. /sarc

  380. TTSSYF says:
    @Realist

    Comments should be allowed on all articles. Evidently, Roberts’ narcissism doesn’t allow it.

    So the man allows comments for the first time in a long time, and you choose to insult him?

    If you want more of something, subsidize (or praise) it. If you want less of something, tax (or criticize) it.

    • Replies: @Realist
  381. Emslander says:
    @utu

    Good post, Utu, but it doesn’t take note of the real danger of the “alternative” opinions on the Unz Review or “misinformation” generally available on pretty normal media. The real danger is that unacceptable opinions look an awful lot like they have some truth in them. Some of them turn out to be entirely true. That’s when you need a Gulag.

    Joe Biden is now accusing FACEBOOK of killing people. Wow! FB has jumped back on him and has revealed a very little recognized truth about the vaccination campaign. FB believes, as do I, that the campaign ot get everyone jabbed is essential to the government control narrative. If the Fauci Flu just stops being news when people find that they are alive, even when not wearing a mask and even when they are talking, playing or making love to people not wearing masks, and maybe not even inoculated, the pandemic narrative falls apart and maybe one more sinew of government trust dissolves.

  382. @michael888

    Succumbing to Covid is not caused by being elderly per se. The reason that this happens to the elderly for the most part is that it takes time for the underlying cause to build and for the human body to weaken from that cause. It can happen in the young as well, but a lifetime of abusing the body makes it more likely to affect the aged.
    Having serious health issues from Covid is ultimately caused by the same thing that causes serious health issues of many other proximate kinds; cancer, cardiovascular disease, dementia, diabetes, hypertension, autoimmune disease, etc.
    The cause is metabolic dysfunction. This is caused by bad diet and lifestyle.
    The way to avoid problems with Covid is the same as the way to avoid the other common modern afflictions –
    1. Eat ruminant meat, fish, eggs and organ meats. Avoid commercially raised pork and chicken, which are monogastric animals that store toxins from their diet.
    2.Avoid processed food, and factory produced seed oils (corn, soy, safflower, sunflower, canola, grapeseed,peanut,rice bran, etc.)
    3. Get sun for vitamin D
    4. Avoid all nuts,grains, legumes and most vegetables.
    5. Eat a small amount of fruit and raw honey.

    But this takes some investigative effort to understand and implement, so people will continue to pay attention to all the wrong distractions, arguments, medicines, cures and shots.

  383. @Ron Unz

    This debate ultimately leads to the question of whether free speech is good for a country. The concept of an “alternative” set of views only makes sense in a country like the U.S., where there is total freedom of opinion. It’s interesting that precisely that freedom should make room for views favorable to countries like China and Iran, where such freedom is completely absent.

    Writers on this site have a curious way of reasoning according to which what goes on in those countries is good and they are unjustly maligned, but never the idea of bringing their way of doing things over to America is considered. So, the Chinese system is good, but not for Americans. Here, one must have complete freedom to write and publish anything one wants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Socrates

    https://www.famous-trials.com/socrates/821-ifstoneinterivew

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    , @Anon
  384. @Brás Cubas

    Here, one must have complete freedom to write and publish anything one wants.

    I am sorry for the “here”; make that “in the U.S.A.”. I write from Brazil, and am Brazilian.

  385. Polemos says:
    @Emslander

    Deaths by flu might be handled one way (less PPE, multiple paths for disposal or interment?) but a death by COVID-19 handled another (more PPE, handling procedures, incineration, &c?), so that those who dispose of pandemic bodies legally have more to do with less the staff, whereas with the flu things are routine enough to predict resource and work needs?

  386. @Wild Man

    You raise good points, and it is particularly maddening that the science behind the huge age differences are not known (or not shared. I really hear you on the censoring! As a retired scientist who has been having weekly, sometimes daily, discussions with other researchers since the pandemic started, I am shocked that more has not been put together and discussed. Unfortunately, I think much of science has migrated away from the US. There is still entrepreneurial work done, and bioweapons research, but that will not be shared.

    My friends and I have been preaching that the Covid-19 Vulnerable Group consists almost entirely of the Elderly, which of course goes against the Official Narrative that everyone is at Risk of death and being “long haulers”. While a serious and dangerous disease for the Vulnerable, it is incredible how this pandemic has been made about EVERYONE. A tremendous, stupid waste of resources. And of course heavily censored.

  387. Alfred says:
    @Commentator Mike

    There is a third wave hitting Africa right now and Tanzania may not escape it.

    Wishful thinking. The reality is that this virus thing is no big deal. Africans are younger and they have active immune systems. The numbers coming out of the West are pure fiction.

    Here are deaths in the UK, Germany and Greece in recent years. Do you see anything remarkable?

  388. Polemos says:
    @utu

    The site offers a solace to the desperate by giving them a sense of not being alone, so they coalesce around the site with sense of doom and gloom that is further amplified and in the end of the tunnel there is a sliver of hope offered in the faint figures of Col. Putin and Gensek Xi as possible saviors to humanity.

    You are here with us, with you too, for
    We are here with utu, with you, too, utu

    • LOL: Emslander, Iris
  389. @Wizard of Oz

    It is not an aged population.
    “United Republic of Tanzania population aged 65 years and above was at level of 2.6 % in 2020, unchanged from the previous year.”

    Nor has the crude estimated death rate changed radically in recent years with the trends/1,000 people projected as falling.
    “In 2020, death rate for United Republic of Tanzania was 6.1 per 1,000 people. Death rate of United Republic of Tanzania fell gradually from 17.9 per 1,000 people in 1971 to 6.1 per 1,000 people in 2020.”

    (Source: World Data Atlas — United Republic of Tanzania Demographics)

    Based on this data, PCR makes a valid point about it being a non-event in Tanzania, although to claim it was a result of anti-malaria drugs is problematic without more detailed data. If the advanced west creamed off their useless eaters cohort above 65 years old down to 2.6% of the population then the actual global C-19 excess mortality data would likely be more like Tanzania.

    Given Sweden (the other control case) lost a lot of aged care home patients in the early 2020 due to poor administrative care issues (which inflated their total mortality numbers significantly) then their remaining statisitcs look similar to the EU averages (if not better) — therefore suggesting there is basically very weak causal correlations between anything in this event — except, (surprise, surprise) … old age, poor hygiene and toxic life styles.

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @thotmonger
  390. @Wild Man

    Fauci is mostly orchestrating a Cover-My-Ass maneuver to protect his position and his “fundees” who were doing gain-of-function research in the face of a Moratorium on funding such work from 2014-2017 (when Fauci quietly reversed the never implemented Moratorium). If we had known that SARS-CoV2 was being studied in human cell cultures, humanized mice or ferrets in January 2020, rather than proclaiming “this virus did not come out of a lab!”, alternative treatments could have been developed while waiting for the hurried vaccines. If Covid-19 truly came out of a lab, Fauci is a monster!
    Vaccinations are incredibly important for the Elderly and medically compromised. If these Vulnerable people are vaccinated, and most are now, everyone else (the non-Vulnerable) can weather Covid-19 at minimal risk. Natural immunity is likely better than vaccine immunity, and the risks from Covid-19 for children and the young and healthy is not known to be appreciably different from side effects of the vaccines; both low risks but vaccines carry a bigger unknown risk. Antibodies (primarily vaccines’ effects) are less important than cellular immunity for coronaviruses. There is likely a reason for this, though we don’t understand what it is, or how important it is.

    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @Wild Man
  391. utu says:
    @Greta Handel

    That rate of efficacy was determined by the relative incidence of defined symptoms, not by the rate of infection or further transmission.

    Since the original efficacy studies which indeed were symptom based the efficacy of vaccine for asymptomatic infections was established to be also high. Just do some googling.

  392. Schuetze says:
    @Anon

    “The fruits of this damn pandemic are isolation, polarization and bitter intolerance from all parts.”

    Can you please explain how “tolerance” should work with someone who wants to deprive other people of their right to free speech? The definition of “tolerance” in the Talmud, and by the Mossad, is “Rise up and kill first”. Can you not see the outcome of the world view of “tolerate talmudic deception” all around you ?

    Clearly this scumbag utu would not only have Ron Unz censor all comments that utu deems “offensive”, he would have Ron Unz remove the majority of authors from Unz Review for the same reason.

    To me, this boils down to the same dilemma as how to deal with communists, and their siamese twins Jewish leftists, in a democracy. Clearly it is suicidal to allow people to vote who will either murder you or lock you up in a gulag the moment they achieve power. Similarly, it is almost as idiotic to allow people the right, or privilege, of commenting on a thread when they have clearly stated themselves that they would disallow free speech to others. Utu even threatened Ron Unz. What a douchebag.

    There is a similar issue with how to deal with the clot shotters who are busy shutting down the free speech rights of the “vaccine hesitant”. Personally, I think they should just be considered communists and sent to concentration camps. There is no room in a democracy for people who would stifle the free speech of others in the name of their own “superior” “science”. Of course the same logic applies to warmists.

    Now some might claim that by I am a hypocrite for claiming that douchebags like utu should be sent to comments section concentration camps. But I would reply that I am not saying lock them up for saying something I don’t agree with, but lock them up because they want to restrict my right to the same free speech that they demand for themselves.

    • Thanks: Polemos
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  393. republic says:
    @jsinton

    PCR had open comments for six months last year

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  394. Polemos says:
    @JasonT

    But if you say ‘viruses’ take over cellular machinery and replicate themselves, then I disagree. If you say that ‘viruses’ mutate then I also disagree.

    Are you saying that it is the exact same molecules moving from person to person, or are you saying it is a particular pattern of molecules that somehow initiates a process in some other molecules that transforms them into that particular pattern but this is not a “take over” of “cellular machinery”, or what?

    But it reads like you’re saying that the thing called a virus, being a product of the immune system’s destruction of cells, signals a system cleansing is happening and cannot initiate these cellular changes through direct interaction. Rather, their presence triggers this particular cleansing process that generates these particular cellular products. (Social transmission as socially systemic immune responses takes place here.) The virus is not taking over a cell, but the immune system is and its sequence of changes within the processes of cellular death will create key byproducts, what get identified as “viruses.”

    Is this how it works or do you have your own ideas?

    But then why the aspect of the (conventional?) theory where certain viruses have distinct protein folds that interact with the surfaces of cells or intracellular organelles to engage with them and alter their functioning? What is that activity, what’s really going on when the Narrative tells me a bacteriophage gets past a bacterium’s outer surface, injects material into it, and then lyses the bacterium from within? Why the distinct shapes needed to interact with the distinct shapes of cellular features on the outside to get inside if they come from inside and never came from outside to get inside to hijack the things in there?

    It kinda seems like the novel idea that viruses are blown apart/deconstructed cellular machines (produced by a responding normal system functioning) and the conventional idea that they are parasitical reassembling cellular machines (produced by a redirected normal system functioning) are both supposed dialectical extremes but in reality complementary versions of what’s happening from a determining perspective, both requiring many machines to inform them what’s happening at levels only the machines can observe.

    So of course the machine perspective wins from both side’s contributions.

  395. @Alfred

    Nothing remarkable. But it is the same government that compiles that data which is also claiming there is a medical disaster, promoting the panic, instituting lockdowns, etc. If it were just media hype I’d understand but it is government that is making all these claims about the pandemic. It is for the government authority to explain why any of their own data doesn’t tally – that’s what their experts and statisticians are for.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
    , @Alfred
  396. @utu

    It was your assertion, so please cite your source. (And remember, you need one that supports the claimed efficacy of 95%.)

  397. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Alfred

    Those are excess deaths per week?

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @glib
  398. RestiveUs says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    No, it’s called Windows NT, mouth.

  399. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    One thing on which Ron Unz, Utu and Gain-of-Function research funder Dr. Fauci appear to agree is that everyone must be vaccinated, if necessary by force, and this presumably irrespective of age at least down to the age of 2, and without regard to prior infection status.

    But are they right?

    Here one reads:

    July 18, 2021: The VAERS website released its weekly numbers on Friday.

    There are now 11,140 reported deaths from the COVID vaccine in the United States.

    This is up from 9,125 reported deaths from the COVID-19 vaccinations total from last week.

  400. gsjackson says:
    @republic

    Not my recollection. They’ve been briefly re-opened at different times, but only for very short periods.

    And responding to another statement above about PCR — this one clearly incorrect: He was born almost seven years before the first “boomer.”

    • Replies: @republic
  401. Polemos says:
    @Schuetze

    Do you feel weird given that in the comment immediately proceeding this one you’re talking like someone who admires free speech and praising Unz for commitment to the value but here you’re demanding we treat someone like reprehensible scum for posting words and then cleanse them and their words from our presence?

    And you flipped in like eighteen minutes. I’ve had girlfriends take longer to change their minds so hard.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  402. Meanwhile as tempers fray and language deteriorates to frankfurt-school-inspired dross that emphasises homo-anal/masturbatory etc terms, it seems that at least one person is having a laugh at the “authorities” in Oz …
    Warning — this may inflame some to further paroxysms of fury …
    And yes, it’s all about a television show …

    British provocateur* Katie Hopkins has been dropped from Australia’s upcoming ‘Big Brother VIP’ and is being investigated by the Australian Border Force after she claimed to have purposefully broken strict quarantine rules.

    *Hate to be pedantic, but isn’t it “provocateuse” … anyway, on with the story …

    Hopkins’ arrival caused further anger when she claimed in an Instagram video to have intentionally broken strict quarantine requirements by opening her hotel room door naked without a face mask when hotel employees bring her food, in an effort to “frighten the s*** out of them.”

    However —

    Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews confirmed the Border Force review in her own statement, saying it was “despicable that anyone would behave in such a way that puts our health officials and community at risk”

    Thousands have signed a Petition in obedience to Big Brother.
    The days of Monty Python seem to be over in Oz … not only Oz, either …
    More at —

    https://www.rt.com/news/529524-australian-border-force-katie-hopkins/

    PS. No Laughing ! You are required to take this very seriously.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @sb
  403. @Arthur MacBride

    And elsewhere … Los Angeles to be exact —

    Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva has made waves and caused outrage by refusing to enforce the city’s reinstated mask policy, saying the decision is “not backed by science.”

    https://www.rt.com/usa/529500-los-angeles-sheriff-covid19-masks/

  404. Realist says:
    @TTSSYF

    So the man allows comments for the first time in a long time, and you choose to insult him?

    So you agree with me..PCR is a narcissist and can’t take criticism.

    If you want more of something, subsidize (or praise) it. If you want less of something, tax (or criticize) it.

    I really don’t care if he allows comments or not. I do agree with most of his thoughts but he writes the same stuff over and over. And he has not come up with anything I don’t already know…so I will not read him if he will not allow me to comment.

    • Replies: @Nancy
    , @TTSSYF
  405. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:

    If A Chinese person farted in Wuhan, how likely that every country on every continent will be able smell it simultaneously? The only way that will happens if China would load tons of farts on thousands of airplanes and sprayed it on all nations. Covid19 is a lie.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  406. RestiveUs says:
    @RoatanBill

    Since when has the media given a fair airing to anything that runs counter to the agenda? They were able to turn a protest at the capital into an insurrection; they would likely do something similar with a sit-down strike and its participants. I remember an incident back in the early 1980’s where air traffic controllers staged a similar situation and they were promptly fired and replaced with military temps. Now we have our country being flooded with immigrants looking for something to do. What’s to stop the strikers from being replaced post haste?

    I’m not pooh-poohing your suggestion, island man. Resistance of any kind is sorely needed. With all the entrenched mechanisms in place, I don’t see any easy way out. Come on back up to the states and join the fun!

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  407. Schuetze says:
    @Polemos

    Here is what I wrote, and what I stand by:

    “Now some might claim that by I am a hypocrite for claiming that douchebags like utu should be sent to comments section concentration camps. But I would reply that I am not saying lock them up for saying something I don’t agree with, but lock them up because they want to restrict my right to the same free speech that they demand for themselves.

    It really has to do with the biblical principle of “do unto others as you would have them do unto you“. I have always tried to live my life by that rule. Mossad, Talmudic Jews, and their communist adherents live by the rule “rise up and strike first“.

    How do you deal with anti-social psychopaths like utu who don’t follow that rule? Asking for a friend.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  408. Anzelo says:
    @utu

    Mass-killing, extermination of all races except yours is common good now? You making a mistake again. I hate your language but you call this “chutzpa” i think. I am way better at that than any of you. I use your weapon against you. I use against you the skills you best at. You cant do anything. Patience is limited. I already feel anger from up there. I am not the one deciding anything, only a skilled shadowpriest. If you do this, I wont be able to have mercy on you.

  409. @RestiveUs

    There’s a difference between the controlled MSM and other media. There are also millions of smartphones with cameras that will record and disseminate videos of interest.

    Even the MSM couldn’t ignore a nationwide truckers strike or any large organized resistance in an area. People would notice and the dearth of MSM reporting in itself would tell a story.

    I’m suggesting doing nothing but sitting home and watching TV. If enough people decided to stop working and tell their friends and neighbors why, that might cause others to join in. Organized resistance could emerge in the form of fired nurses suing the hospitals and forcing discovery to put the plandemic on trial. Admittedly, this is in the controlled courts jurisdiction, but not every judge is bought and paid for, at least I hope that’s still the case.

    While the gov’t is handing out money for any reason and to any constituency they can think of, workers are going to feel cheated. “Why should I work when so and so is getting a check” might lead to more people laying down as the Chinese call it.

    The only thing I can think of that could throw sand into the gears is non violent resistance by withholding labor required to keep the country running. The military can’t do all the jobs if a few million people decided they’ve had enough and force a peaceful confrontation where essential services no longer function.

    Again, I ask, what’s your idea to stop the insanity that won’t get people killed by gov’t goons?

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
    , @RestiveUs
  410. Schuetze says:
    @Schuetze

    To illustrate another example, it is not the “vaccine hesitant” who are trying to deny access to shops, airlines and public spaces to spiked protein shedding clot-shotters. It is not “right to breath fresh air” advocates who are denying the maskers the right to wear a diaper on their face when shopping or flying. It is not the Ivermectine and Hydroxychloroquine treatment advocates who are insisting that the clot-shot has not been tested and so must not only be banned, but that anyone who dare mention the existence of mRNA gene therapy be cancelled from employment and banned from all social media platforms.

    So now that the deep state faithful idiots have shoved the rest of us skeptics into a corner, as in France and Greece, and are threatening our very ability to exist, how do you deal with them? With “tolerance”? What about all the thousands who have died, and the hundreds of thousands who have been injured, from their clot-shot? At what point do we simply deny their claims of “plausible denyability” and apply the same judicial remedies to them that they have been applying to us for centuries? Or in short, at what point are Christians justified in forcing jews to face their own talmudic justice?

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Anon
  411. @Anonymous

    If A Chinese person farted in Wuhan, how likely that every country on every continent will be able smell it simultaneously?

    Everybody was kung-fu farting

    • LOL: geokat62
  412. Emslander says:
    @michael888

    Someone close to the process told me recently that, within three days of the official release of the RNA details of the virus, the Moderna mRNA vaccine was ready to go. The regulatory process held up release for ten months.

    It occurs to me that the lab work on creating the virus must have been shared with certain experts, who had already come up with a vaccine.

  413. @RoatanBill

    Nothing but a fully coordinated strategy, layered with stealth, civil disobedience, organizational directorates, precise and direct guerilla tactics, mental and moral resolve, a shadow world OS(operation system), to counter the “Microsoft”(soft?) passive violence.

    All but every copper, soldier, administrative mail pusher, programmer, middle class corporate serf, maid and service providing drone is embedded in the tissue of the cities and suburbs. As individuals, they are highly vulnerable, and driven by opportunism of the first come, they will offer little resistance to alternative pressures. This will not happen. Infrastructure is a ready target.

    Second scenario possible: a disruption within elite circles, helped by a first stage see above sequel.

    Just possibilities that worked elsewhere, other times. What does not is voting and tweeting devoid of the above. That is a certain bet.

  414. @John Johnson

    From your Tennessee article:

    “Doctors say they are seeing more vaccinated people admitted into the hospitals with COVID-19, but they still urge people to get the vaccine.”

    So you can still get the virus, you can still transmit the virus, and you can still be hospitalized from the virus. But we’re supposed to get the experimental bug juice any way. Every six months.

    No thanks. I’ll just take my fish oil and get plenty of sunshine and exercise.

  415. Nancy says:
    @Emslander

    Absolutely! Why do they deliberately omit the necessary details, unless they undercut their agenda… GET VAX NOW. By prohibiting HCQ ( later IVM) off-label prescriptions for Covid, ‘they’ announced that they want a lot of deaths!! It’s a no-brainer.

  416. Nancy says:
    @Realist

    Cutting of your nose to spite your face …. a little? lol BTW, I’m all in favor of the repition… know how many normis are reading it for the first time…. not everyone is as erudite as you are. This is crunch time, for real, as we need every tactic there is to open eyeballs.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Realist
  417. @Commentator Mike

    Indeed, poisoned data at the source. Not the first time, nor the first year i mention this. This will go on, when only career drones have access to raw data. The nuclei themselves are poisoned and chained to agenda before the media just translate into confusion which results into immobile, disoriented surplus populations of drones(whatever you choose to read, feel free, neither certain of an individual nor a collective identity that holds the water). Never in history this was done better, come China or US, this has to do with the tools.

  418. @Kapyong

    Since you seem to understand that Euro Vigilance database for adverse effects I have a question for you. In the number of individual cases by age group, it does report some adverse effects in the 0 -1 month and 2 months -2 years age groups. How come? Are they vaccinating babies already?

    • Replies: @Kapyong
  419. JohnD366 says:
    @Eddy Minimum

    Absolutely correct your climate facts. Climate change is driven by solar intensity. Sunspots are disappearing. NASA has predicted 50% reduction of sun intensity by 2030 compared to today.

    [MORE]
    Mars rover has registered significant cooling of the planet. Earth is some decades slower due to water holding warmth. But vapour from the oceans will go down, the most important greenhouse gas. Earth will cool down. Small ice age coming. The fact that global temperature has been going down for the last 4 years is being ignored or covered up. Hence the increased vulcanic and tectonic activities. The crust is shrinking. Of course this doesn’t fit with the Green New Deal, where the big money is in. Thats why they are silent on the studies of South pole ice drillings going back over 200.000 years. They have revealed that temperature rises and falls have ALWAYS preceded CO2 rises and falls by 800 to 1.000 years. So much to the myth of CO2 levels driving globatl warming. Unfortunally 80% of the population are bigoted and easily manipulated. That’s why they are all running for the jab too. So sad.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride, Alfred
  420. Wild Man says:
    @michael888

    Generally, I agree with all your points in your comment #403. And the following two passages especially resonate with me:

    “If we had known that SARS-CoV2 was being studied in human cell cultures, humanized mice or ferrets in January 2020, rather than proclaiming “this virus did not come out of a lab!”, alternative treatments could have been developed while waiting for the hurried vaccines. If Covid-19 truly came out of a lab, Fauci is a monster!”

    Paired with this 2nd passage from your aforementioned post:

    “There is likely a reason for this, though we don’t understand what it is, or how important it is.”

    This, to me, is an extremely important point. The general public of all nations still do not know hardly very much at all about the etiology of Covid-19 as caused by Sars-Cov-2. We are still, after all this time, … left guessing. Really …. the only major thing that the general public has learned about said etiology, is that the pathogenesis features peculiarities of the spike protein interface and interference with homeostatic metabolic pathways within tissue featuring a preponderance of the ACE2 receptor. That we know, because, near right from the very beginning of Covid Officialdom’s pronouncements, if I recall correctly, even as early as Feb/20, … we were told precisely that. Covid Officialdom has never since denied this, and never will, because the whole vaxx effort has been based on this precise claim (which I can’t find any reason to doubt).

    Interestingly, what happened soon after, was those that got mighty interested in this pathogenic peculiarity of this region (component) of the overall virus, …. which really started to be a topic that gained more and more interest among the curious (such as myself) once we learned, I think just a bit later (April/20?)…. that the vaxx technologies under consideration by Covid Officialdom were all zeroing in on this precise feature of Sars-cov-2 for vaxx-expression (i.e. – even more of the curious types began to take notice …. and that is when I started to get interested in this specific topic) …. was, that we also learned at that time that this specific narrow topic (i.e. – the topic of pathogenesis, featuring peculiarities of the spike protein interface and interference with homeostatic metabolic pathways within tissue featuring a preponderance of the ACE2 receptor) led one (if such person indeed was curious) to the obvious censorship occurring around the lab-leak hypothesis …. because this aforementioned specific narrow topic featured provenance by way of investigative lab-work work done on sars-cov-1, …. but by way of the censorship, you weren’t supposed to notice that (as a member of the general public) as it applied to the lab-leak hypothesis, while at the same time, back at the time (commencing as early as the end of April/20 if I recall correctly), Covid Officialdom was making vague reference to this same specific narrow topic, within the rather muted narrative around vaxx development. So that is interesting.

    Now, nearly a year and half later, … with vaxx roll-out having zenithed already in places like Israel, the U.S, and Canada, ….. and after the lab-leak hypothesis has temporarily become uncensored to some small degree ….. we still find that it is off-base to discuss this specific narrow topic (i.e. – the topic of pathogenesis, featuring peculiarities of the spike protein interface and interference with homeostatic metabolic pathways within tissue featuring a preponderance of the ACE2 receptor) …. in terms other than just vague-reference … when the general public tries to discuss this specific narrow topic, with various experts within that domain, as it bears upon the topic of vaxx development (or the lab-leak hypothesis, for that matter). So, …. all this is increasingly interesting.

    Somebody be trying to blow smoke up our *sses, as far as I can tell. And at this point, that be criminal (as far as I can tell) ….. because this whole covid-19 fiasco has brought such great harm, in so many ways, to so many people ….. and furthermore, because if it turns out that Covid Officialdom was not as forthcoming as they should have been about the risks associated with the vaxx (which, to me…. we are just barely a hair away of not really being able to see it any other way), and blocked the curious public from finding out for themselves, ….. finding out firstly, about the actual risk-self-interest quotients for some cohorts (as I outlined in comment #321 above), and finding out secondly, about the precise sars-cov-2 pathogenesis that would inform that, ….. well, …. this means that Covid Officialdom not only brought harm, but eventuated that provision of that harm in such a way that blocked the general public from formulating some cogent understanding around harm-avoidance in this vein, that would allow the general public to devise their own harm-avoidance strategies (of which avoiding the vaxx, may well be one such strategy …. we simply do not know enough to call it one way or the other at this juncture, but ….. I think it probable, that in the end, it won’t be difficult to show that there isn’t anything at all superior about Covid Officialdoms’s policies of adopting a vaxx-mediated-herd-immunity strategy, instead of a natural-infection-mediated-herd-immunity), and in any event, as things stand now, by way of Covid Officialdom’s own pronouncements, it is already abundantly clear that a hybrid strategy, of a targeted-vaxx-mediated-herd-immunity strategy (for high risk cohorts) blended with a natural-infection-mediated-herd-immunity for the majority (low risk cohorts) is superior to the non-hybrid strategies (however it should be noted that this becomes much more obvious when the associated risks/benefits are measured in terms of person-years-of-life-lost-or-saved, and not just lives lost or saved …. I have worked up my own analysis, that already shows this, which is a fairly simple back of envelope series of calculations to make, which I could share with you , if you like).

    Bottom line: It is very curious that there has occurred (and continues to occur), a three-sided censorship on the specific narrow topic of sarsd-cov-2 pathogenesis, featuring peculiarities of the spike protein interface and interference with homeostatic metabolic pathways within tissue featuring a preponderance of the ACE2 receptor (the topic may be referenced, vaxx-wise, but only in the vaguest terms, …. however with respect to the lab-leak hypothesis, the topic is even more-so downplayed, …. and then, with respect to wild covid pathogenic discussions …. the topic really isn’t downplayed that much at all, by Covid Officialdom, because it informs some of their talking points … such as on the topic of long-covid. I really can’t see how this amounts to anything other than highly immoral behavior, as committed by Covid Officialdom, and so, one has to wonder … to what end? That is why the vaccine-hesitant, are hesitant. The cognitive dissonance, as driven by Covid Officialdom’s untruthful narrative-control, causes suspicion (as it logically should). Maybe they should stop lying. Then maybe people would cooperate, with a new Covid Officialdom narrative & strategy more aligned with the truth.

    • Replies: @michael888
  421. JohnD366 says:

    Excellent text Dr. Roberts. Sums up the the important facts and details. Unfortunatelly, the Covid believers won’t be impressed. I personally have only been able to pull 2 friends to the safe shore. Many others have just gone and received their jab. They can’t believe so much evil is actually possible. But it is. I have been following it since the Bilderbergers and Club of Rome.

    • Replies: @Anzelo
  422. TTSSYF says:
    @Realist

    I have no idea whether he’s a narcissist or not. All I know is that he doesn’t usually allow comments to his articles and, when he did for this one, you take it upon yourself to gratuitously insult him rather than appreciate it and take advantage of the opportunity. If you have feedback for him, why don’t you make it constructive criticism rather than some armchair psychological diagnosis?

    • Troll: Realist
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Realist
  423. @Anatoly Karlin

    Carly, you forgot to add a clio-graph. “His master’s voice”.

  424. mcohen says:

    During the covid pandemic of the 2020’s PCR was and unfortunate initial to have.Similiarly so was TIC or tongue in cheek,a somewhat disgusting fetish of certain writers

  425. @RestiveUs

    In Gates’ mind, the entire world may be a Microsoft domain, where humanity is merely user objects that can be created, configured, grouped and governed by policy, and ultimately deleted at the whims of the “administrators”.

    I rather think that creepy Bill’s historical aptitude for manipulating stakeholders and monopolizing the IT market by fair means and foul in order to accumulate enormous wealth and power, was an early reflection of the ruthless, self-serving and thoroughly amoral contours of his character – which has been brought into clear view with his subsequent track record leading all the way up to the current orchestration of the global Corona Chan “pandemic”, jointly with Uncle Klaus and the rest of the psychotic Davos crowd.

  426. The virus is real.

    says PCR

    Really, got any proof Paul?

  427. @John Johnson

    The virus is real and the vaccine works. Denying it at this point is completely ridiculous.

    These are ridiculous assertions especially the part about the vaccine works.

    The vax jab is not a vaccine.

    No proof that it works because those vaccinated soon test positive, whatever that means since you do not know what it is or how to detect it.

    But millions of those that do get “vaccinated” for Covid are seriously injured or dead.

    The comment section is infested with insane brainwashed shills/idiots.

  428. Realist says:
    @Nancy

    Cutting of your nose to spite your face …. a little?

    Not at all…as I said I can get the same information in a hundred other places. The repeating of the same crap is of no benefit to me.

    …know how many normis are reading it for the first time

    No, and neither do you.

    The number of new readers on TUR is probably small. At any rate the fact that I do not read PCR has no effect on others doing so.

  429. Realist says:
    @TTSSYF

    All I know is that he doesn’t usually allow comments to his articles and, when he did for this one, you take it upon yourself to gratuitously insult him rather than appreciate it and take advantage of the opportunity.

    A few years ago PCR always allowed comments.

    You are repeating yourself.

    If you have feedback for him, why don’t you make it constructive criticism rather than some armchair psychological diagnosis?

    In the past, when he occasionally allowed comments I have taken the opportunity to suggest he continue to allow comments…to no avail.

    Since you have no idea what comments I have made to PCR…mind your own business.

    Virtually every writer on this blog receives some less than complimentary comments…some much worse than being accused of narcissism, and they seem to be able to continue to allow comments. I’m calling narcissism on PCR…he is nothing special.

    There were other less than complimentary comments about PCR, but I see you didn’t complain to them.

    • Troll: TTSSYF
  430. Realist says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    You have no idea how many deaths were the result of Covid…not with Covid, but from Covid.
    This whole pandemic has been a circle jerk. The PCR test is horribly flawed, with false positives. Depending on the number of cycles run, the test has numerous answers. The test does not determine the cause of death.

    Instead of patting yourself on the back, you should read about what a goddamn mess this has been.

  431. gnbRC says:
    @Maddaugh

    Ugh! Your practice won’t work to any great extent. Consider what happens during the normal course of human development from birth to old age – an infant develops and grows in accordance with a template due to some sort of internal energetic process; then in the teenage years there is ebullient strength and vitality affecting the body and mind (originating from somewhere), but no wisdom. Then in middle age one begins to decline, because that which promoted growth and vitality has either departed or has been used up (and wisdom had still failed to manifest automatically). So, as an adult, don’t you think you should be looking at this process a little more closely? How can just concentrating on the material aspects of the body accomplish maintaining vitality to extend life (?) – it can’t, in fact it is a trap of education, indoctrination and lack of imagination.

  432. Everything you should know about Covid

    Covid is a religion like Climate Change. It is sustained by cowardice, belief, lack of critical reasoning skills: it is never proven by evidence.

    [MORE]

    As scholars know, there is zero evidence for Jesus outside of the Gospels. Likewise there is zero evidence of Covid outside of media spin. Like Jesus, Covid exists in your mind and news media electrical signals, it is not a real thing and nor is climate change from human activity which is never proven but always asserted. Just turn on any “news” channel, any weather disaster is always blamed on climate change and they usually follow up “experts claim Germany’s flooding was caused by climate change”. No proof is ever offered, just the assertion.

    The mask wearing virtue signalling cowards want to convert you to their belief, and like any religion they do so to male themselves feel safe, they do not like unbelievers or the unvaxxed, as they are heretics and threaten their position.

    Thus they assert “the virus is real” which is just like “Jesus is real” which is just like “Global Warming is real”. They put up signs in their front yard “In this home we believe science is real”, and if they can get many people in their community to do so then they feel their choice to get vaxxed is a safe choice because they have established social cohesion if the face of a threat.

    Of course if the vaxx is deadly, which it is, they will ignore evidence to the contrary of their position. Thus if you tell them thousands of people are dying from the jab, they will sluff it off as coincidence. Obviously such a strategy can prove fatal, because belief that the vaxx saves you is invalid if the Covid hoax was used to stampede the public to be pricked with a bioweapon. Covid was a marketing campaign by big pHARMA to push their vaxx agenda.

    If you are up on the CO2 is causing Global Warming scam, Covid was the new scam, and just like the invisible CO2 molecules which you can not see with your senses, you are told the invisible Covid virus (and RNA fragment of a few molecules) is a serious threat, and you need to trust those in authority. Covid is never proven, yet always asserted, a colored graphic of a Covid molecule is always thrown up on the screen as proof, and if you tell the faithful that the graphic was created before the planemic was unleashed, they will stare at you with blank eyes no different if you tell them no one can die for your sins.

    Trust authority is used to establish the belief in Covid. Experts like Dr. Fraudci are put on the television every day so you are convinced their is a real threat and the expert knows what you should do, like wear one or more masks. No matter how ridiculous the advice the believing sheeple comply, because they lack the will to challenge authority. Fraudci is the high priest of the Covid Temple.

    This external authority to self ruse is exactly how the church operates, you believe the priest as the authority that Christ is real. Like the invisible Covid virus, or the invisible CO2 molecule, Jesus is also invisible and can not be detected by your senses, and thus you must believe, and once you are converted to the faith you are compelled to convince others because of your own faulty reasoning skills.

    Thus everything you need to know about Covid, it is complete fakery.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  433. @CanSpeccy

    On the face of it the VAERS website doesn’t even claim to be reliable.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  434. This recent publication from Reuters points out that students are drinking soda to produce a false positive to get out of having to go to school. Interestingly enough, not one time did it mention that people who did not exhibit symptoms, and told they were positive, could have actually consumed a soda that produced a false positive. Simply put, this puts into doubt all the statistical data.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/vaccines-may-curb-virus-mutations-162917356.html

    It is disgusting that there are people out there willing to kill innocent people so that they can profit monetarily, all with the potential for sterilizing an entire generation. These people are millions of times more evil than Hitler ever was.

  435. Anonymous[428] • Disclaimer says:
    @Schuetze

    I am not saying lock them up for saying something I don’t agree with, but lock them up because they want to restrict my right to the same free speech that they demand for themselves.

    Exactly. This guy comes to this website, doesn’t like what he sees and instead of ignoring or just going someplace else, he complains nonstop to Ron about it.

    What’s the point of seeking out alternative viewpoints if you can’t stand alternative viewpoints?

    • Thanks: Schuetze
  436. You’re an Idiot. The “VIRUS” is not real. Let me re phrase. There is a corona virus going around commonly know as A COLD. Seasonal it is called “The Flu”. No new coronal flu virus has ever been identified or isolated, the common cold and the seasonal Flu have only been re branded and renamed. IDIOT.

  437. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    On the face of it the VAERS website doesn’t even claim to be reliable.

    That the VAERS database does not provide reliable data on adverse vaccine outcomes is generally agreed. It is believed to massively underestimate adverse events because it is said to take half an hour to file a report, time that many doctors, and perhaps the great majority, are unprepared to spend.

    According to Dr. Peter McCullough, there may have already been over 50,000 covid vaccine deaths in the US.

    Here in British Columbia, in the small community of Lytton (population of 247), there has been, according to the town’s only doctor, one vaccine-induced death, two cases of vaccine-induced anaphylaxis, and three cases of vaccine-caused neurological damage.

    In any case, what is the point of the vaccine, if as reported, 47% of all new cases in the UK are now in vaccinated individuals?

    • Replies: @utu
    , @utu
    , @Wizard of Oz
  438. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    And look how the globalists punished the good doctor of Lytton. They focused HAARP on Lytton and burned the whole town down.

    https://stateofthenation.co/?p=73281

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  439. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    According to Dr. Peter McCullough, there may have already been over 50,000 covid vaccine deaths in the US. – McCullough is a libertarian madman. Post vaccination mortality has been looked at before:

    Mortality rates and cause-of-death patterns in a vaccinated population (2013)
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23790993/

    Analyses were conducted in 2012. Mortality rates were calculated at 0-1 day, 0-7 days, 0-30 days, and 0-60 days following vaccination for deaths occurring between January 1, 2005, and December 31, 2008. Analyses were stratified by age and gender. Causes of death were examined, and findings were compared to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) data.

    Among 13,033,274 vaccinated people, 15,455 deaths occurred between 0 and 60 days following vaccination.

    The authors do not find excessive death among the group of vaccinated when compared to people who were not recently vaccinated.

    I am not denying that some people have reactions to vaccines and some of them die. Then a vaccine is a direct cause of death, however Isuspect that most cases reported to VAERS are not like that.

    If I randomly selected 100 million people and assign to each a random date x/y/2021 I would be pretty accurate predicting that about 2,200 of them would die within 24 h after x/y/2021 and about 16,000 would die within one week. I could refine this experiment by age groups. Obviously placing those 100 million people on my list is not causing their deaths, though otoh perhaps I have powers like that. What is your name , btw?

  440. utu says:
    @Schuetze

    How is the food in your institution? Are orderlies good to you? How many comments do they let you post per day before you get too agitated?

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  441. @CanSpeccy

    The VERS website seems to advertise that you can’t rely on its figures (anyone can, apparently, add to them). Have I missed something?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  442. @utu

    You failed to substantiate your challenged claim (#362) of 95% efficacy in respect of infection/transmission. So please now come forth with your source for this revised one (#404).

    • Replies: @utu
  443. anastasia says:

    Those scientists in Spain said it was not a virus, but a chemical poisoning, and that would make sense, since doctors came out early to say, “there was no respiratory distress, but low blood oxygen.” With a flu, you get respiratory distress that results in low blood oxygen.

    Putting those people on a ventilator (which only has a less than 50 percent survival rate), was a death sentence. Before they did that, they laid off their entire hospital staff on the excuse that there was no elective surgeries being conducted, and then advertised for out of state and out of the country doctors and nurses who did not have to be licensed. They needed to attend one year of any kind of medical program. On top of that, there was complete immunity from civil or criminal liability, and while these out of state incompetent people were directed to work under the supervision of a doctor, they would be wholly immune from liability if they failed to do so. On top of that, they gave the hospitals more money if a diagnosis of Covid was made, resulting in non-Covid people being put on floors with Covid people, and people who were negative for Covid being put on ventilators. In Elmhurst Hospital, they virtually all died. Of course they would. How could they not die?

    What happens when you are in a nursing home, are sick and require hospitalization and are not allowed to go. Take a wild guess what happens.. I’m tapping my fingers on the table waiting for an answer.

  444. @CanSpeccy

    The Daily Mail report you link contains at least part of the answer to your question. One jab doesn’t provide the max protection but each jab tends to mitigate the severity of any infection.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  445. @Wizard of Oz

    Oops!This was shown as deleted.

  446. utu says:
    @Greta Handel

    “Vaccine effectiveness was at least 97% against symptomatic COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, severe and critical hospitalizations, and deaths. Furthermore, the analysis found a vaccine effectiveness of 94% against asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections.”
    https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/real-world-evidence-confirms-high-effectiveness-pfizer

    “91·5% (90·7–92·2; 40·9 vs 1·8 per 100 000 person-days) against asymptomatic ”
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00947-8/fulltext

  447. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh my goshhh! Look who’s talking now!
    This ClownChump ass-kisser advocated wearing N95 mask at the very beginning of this fraud.
    Now he’s saying “The virus is real. It is a danger to people with poor immune systems and to those with co-morbidities.”

    Nope Paul! Viruses are real, but THE VIRUS called SARSCOV2 is not! It does not exist. There is no proof that it exists.

    “People of any age could have impaired immune systems and serious illnesses” would die from many causes. And any “virus” can be danger to these people!

    People die everyday from different causes since our existence on this planet! The difference is nn our modern days we have medical technology which allows us to INVESTIGATE EACH DEATH to find out the exact CAUSE with scientific EVIDENCE. That’s why we have medical coroners who perform autopsy and present SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of the cause of the death! IF there is concrete scientific evidence, we would stick a big question mark with “UNKNOWN” label on it!

    Now, about “THE CASES”. Is NOT the TEST for diagnosing viral infection. It’s a special TECHNIQUE invented by the late Dr Garry Mullis for medical/bio research. Thus, any “case” resulted from the misuse and abuse of the PCR technique is a FRAUD and FAKE.

    The reason the use PCR as their official TEST because it allows them to pop up as many “cases” as they need along the way. And they are going to use PCR’s “result” to forced “quarantine” (translation ARREST/IMPRISON) any person THEY marked/targeted.

    By now, ANYONE who is still talking of “the virus is real” and “the PCR cases” is either willful ignorant or a coward gate-keeper.

    So what do we do? For we, the people, especially the Americans remember this:

    “whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it” and that “When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.””

  448. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brás Cubas

    Thank you for the links. One of Socrates most beautiful, and hardest, teachings is “It is never right to do wrong.”
    That is, we must act to our enemies as we believe is fair. Difficult, but from such idealistic perspective have sprung surprisingly practical views of the world, like the “ Just War” theory or the “Natural Law” conception of rightly ordered human relations.

    As to the paradox of tolerance.. better philosophers than Popper have pointed out the solution: the limits of tolerance is, of course, the truth. What is truth? Well.. that’s a another wholly off-topic discussion.. but let me finish with a question. Is truth a consensus between men, or does truth exist and is discovered by men?

    “In the essential, unity
    In the non-essential, tolerance
    In everything, charity.”

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  449. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @Schuetze

    “ Or in short, at what point are Christians justified in forcing jews to face their own talmudic justice?”

    Well, you set the bar too high. Christians are held to the hardest law “You will love the Lord your God above all things and your neighbor as yourself.” Worse even: “Love one another as I have loved you.”

    A more immediately doable Christian position is not to stand against some vaguely defined group, but to stand for the truth. For example, it is not licit to kill one life to save ten or a hundred or a thousand. Hence no to mandatory vaccination. And so on, down the whole pandemic house of cards. Some things you might not like, like for example wearing masks out of an abundance of prudence and love of neighbor.

  450. RestiveUs says:
    @RoatanBill

    I never claimed to have the silver bullet for this mess. You’re the one peddling ideas. The only approach I can think of that might ultimately be effective is for the productive segment of society to turn their backs to the existing monetary system and pull the rug out from under the parasites.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @RoatanBill
  451. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu

    And look how the globalists punished the good doctor of Lytton. They focused HAARP on Lytton and burned the whole town down.

    LOL.

    But the heatwave that gave rise to the forest fires that burnt the town of Lytton was certainly extreme: with the temperature reaching 49.6 C in Lytton, or 23 F above body temperature.

    I don’t buy the Haarp theory.

    But was it Bill Gates?

    Frustrated in his attempt to blot out the sun with particles injected into the upper atmosphere over Sweden, the temperature inversion that developed over British Columbia late last month provided Bill Gates, the opportunity for another experiment in climate modification.

    All that was necessary was to inject a few tons of black carbon into the atmosphere beneath the inversion and watch the temperature soar. Gates has motive and means, including a couple of Gulfstream jets with a payload capacity of several tons, and standing by at an airport just over the border in Washington State.

  452. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu

    McCullough is a libertarian madman.

    I don’t see what that has to do with the argument. Anyone who, like McCullough, edits multiple scholarly journals is probably insane, or at becoming so, but one would expect that what they say on a technical matter would be at least rationally defensible if not correct.

    Post vaccination mortality has been looked at before.

    But should be looked at again in the present context.

    • Replies: @utu
  453. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Mulga writes:

    ‘ Cold is bad, but heat and humidity are far worse.’

    Oh dear, Mulga is still peddling his pseudoscience.

    Let’s look at the facts, shall we, from an article titled ‘International study reveals that cold weather kills far more people than hot weather’:

    https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2015/cold_weather_deaths.html

    From that article:

    ‘Cold weather kills 20 times as many people as hot weather, according to an international study analysing over 74 million deaths in 384 locations across 13 countries.’

    There you go. It’s not even a close run thing.

    As always, the Climate Cultists (of which Mulga is a card carrying member), are propagandising with the most absurd untruths imaginable.

  454. @animalogic

    Hey ‘animal’, good to hear from you and Nonny Mouse.

    I’m in NSW myself. Let’s hope Scummo (aka ScoMo), Bere-joke-alien and Diktator Dan, get what they deserve (in the way of grand pianos dropping on their heads).

    • Replies: @animalogic
  455. Franz says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    At risk of veering off-topic…

    I’m hoping to honor that thought too.

    But at the very beginning of the Covid Saga I was mocked for simply quoting Linus Pauling on that subject, and hope your post leads more people to investigate the extraordinary uses of a cheap, widely available health supplement.

  456. @Ron Unz

    So Ron, you write (comment # 245) that:

    ‘Well, under my reconstruction, the attack [bioweapon attack on China, Iran…] was probably organised by some of the top officials in the Trump Administration, with Mike Pompeo and John Bolton being the two most likely suspects.
    With everyone involved being American, it sounds pretty “American” to me.’

    And, seeing as Americans gentiles like George W Bush and Dick Cheney presided over the 9/11 False Flag and the ensuing wars on behalf of Israel, does that mean that ‘Americans’ planned and orchestrated these events ?

    C’mon Ron, you and I both KNOW for certain that whether it’s Trump ordering the ‘Warp Speed’ Covid vaccination rollout or the U.S using their power of veto at the U.N to quash yet another censure of human rights violations by the Apartheid Israeli state, in the final analysis these ‘Americans’ are merely HIRED HANDS that have prostrated themselves to their Zionist controllers for a few pieces of silver.

    At the end of the day, ANY action by a high ranking U.S official is one which has been DICTATED to them by the Zio-cabal.

    Trump, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton or anyone in the Biden administration are just reading from a Zio-prepared SCRIPT.

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Emslander
  457. Schuetze says:
    @utu

    lol. The self anointed Hungarian emperor god of scientism has made another proclamation. But now that I know the institution he is confined to, I have a little sympathy. After dragging all of Europe into WWI because of land greed over parts of greater Serbia, Hungary then jumped into Bela Kuhn’s open arms of Jewish communism in precisely the same way they jumped into the open arms of EU style Jewish progressive communism in 2004. Now Hungarians are sentenced to self flagellation at the alter of scientism, and the entire planet must suffer arrogant proclamations like this:

    If you do not have the studies then you just as well may accept blood letting as a useful treatment.

  458. Alfred says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    And there have literally been millions of deaths. Not 100,000’s of deaths, nor tens of millions of deaths, which I did not predict, but precisely the millions that I did.

    Show us the increase in deaths! You are just another version of utu the troll. Here are deaths for 29 European countries. Whatever temporary increase there was compared to previous years is because cretins like you shut the hospitals and denied the people medications and care. Suicides and bankruptcies rocketed. There is nothing I detest more than a person who knows that he was totally wrong and yet pretends that he was correct. What an ego!

    Sweden did not lockdown and shut down schools and hospitals.

  459. Alfred says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Those are excess deaths per week?

    Yes.

    • Thanks: CanSpeccy
  460. @utu

    Pfizer, perhaps the most corrupt of ALL BigPharma Mafias, and, no doubt, ‘utu’s’ paymasters. In 2010 it was observed, by Canadian researchers that ‘..Pfizer is an ‘habitual offender’, persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results’. Result, billions in criminal penalties. Perfect owners for a troll like ‘utu’.

    • Agree: Alfred, Herald
  461. @utu

    Even for you, despicable troll disinformer, that is impudent. These are NOT traditional vaccines, but experimental gene therapies under emergency use approval. And the harms of vaccines are NOT just deaths, but morbidity, short, medium and long-term, that have never been properly investigated even with traditional vaccines.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  462. @Yukon Jack

    Pluperfect Dunning-Krugerite idiocy. Anthropogenic climate destabilisation is reality, backed up by science and increasingly bitter experience from reality. That paranoid and brain-dead dunderheads still spout their pseudo-religious mantra that it is a ‘hoax’ even as weather and climate disasters race out of control, far earlier and more markedly than predicted, is imbecility turned into a mass suicide cult.

    • Replies: @Herald
  463. Kapyong says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Gday Commentator Mike,

    Since you seem to understand that Euro Vigilance database for adverse effects I have a question for you. In the number of individual cases by age group, it does report some adverse effects in the 0 -1 month and 2 months -2 years age groups. How come? Are they vaccinating babies already?

    Apparently so.

    Moderna trial reported in The Sun in UK, 16th March :
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14355814/moderna-testing-covid-vaccines-babies-six-months-first-trial/
    “OH BABY! Moderna is testing Covid vaccines in babies as young as six months old, in first trial of its kind”

    PHARMACEUTICAL giant Moderna has ramped up testing of its Covid-19 vaccine and is trialling it on babies as young as six months old, the company announced today.

    The trial will be the first of its kind and will include kids aged six months to 11 years.

    Pfizer trial, CNBC, March :
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/25/covid-vaccine-pfizer-begins-trial-on-infants-and-young-kids.html
    Pfizer begins Covid vaccine trial on infants and young kids

    Pfizer said it has started a clinical trial testing its Covid-19 vaccine on healthy children aged 6 months to 11.

    Second Pfizer trial in June :
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/08/pfizer-to-test-covid-vaccine-in-larger-group-of-children-below-12-.html
    Pfizer to test Covid vaccine in larger group of children below 12

    Pfizer said on Tuesday it will begin testing its Covid-19 vaccine in a bigger group of children under age 12 after selecting a lower dose of the shot in an earlier stage of the trial.

    The study will enroll up to 4,500 children at more than 90 clinical sites in the United States, Finland, Poland and Spain, the company said.

    Emergency authorisation expected soon, says the American Academy of Pediatrics, May :
    https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/05/04/pfizer-covid-vaccine-children-050421
    Pfizer plans to request COVID-19 vaccine EUA for ages 2-11 in September

    Children ages 2-11 could potentially be eligible for a COVID-19 vaccine this fall.

    Pfizer Chairman and CEO Albert Bourla, D.V.M., Ph.D., said on a quarterly earnings call Tuesday he expects to request emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in September. Under his plan, an EUA request for ages six months to 2 years would follow in the fourth quarter.

    Yup, *trials* of experimental vaccines on babies and children, USA and Europe !
    What could possibly go wrong 🙁

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  464. @utu

    Anyone reading and thinking about this carefully and dispassionately understands how easy it is for people to dissemble and — even if in conversing in good faith —confuse themselves and others.

    I joined this conversation when you (#362) said:

    If vaccine efficacy is 95% then the vaccinated have 20 fold lower chance of getting infected so it makes sense to say that the unvaccinated are much more likely to be the source of new variants.

    You then (#404) seem to have drifted away from that claim:

    Since the original efficacy studies which indeed were symptom based the efficacy of vaccine for asymptomatic infections was established to be also high.

    Remember where we started. Where and how do your (#461) cited sources even purport to show how “much more likely” those who have to this point declined the product are “to be the source of new variants”? And, if they do, what’s that specific factor that readers can then compare to the “20 fold” (#362) and “high” (#404) you’ve suggested upthread?

    • Replies: @utu
  465. Emslander says:
    @utu

    I could refine this experiment by age groups.

    You could come up with similar statistical truths with those who become “cases” of the Fauci Flu.

  466. @RestiveUs

    How does one turn their backs to the existing monetary system? I see no way to do that.

    I’m waiting for the dollar to hyperinflate. I have no control over that but the Fed is doing a good job of pushing the dollar into that realm. Once the dollar loses its purchasing power in a significant way, all hell will break loose. That’s when people will be in the streets rioting because commerce breaks down since no one will sell anything for worthless paper. That means no food or fuel deliveries. Hungry and cold people are a force to be reckoned with and many own weapons. Crime will skyrocket as will defensive injuries and killings.

    Martial law and an open military dictatorship to replace the soft military dictatorship (deep state) that’s been in effect for decades will be the norm. That’s the only possible outcome I can see at present.

    • Replies: @RestiveUs
  467. Emslander says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Trump, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton or anyone in the Biden administration are just reading from a Zio-prepared SCRIPT.

    It seems to me that within their characteristic areas of influence, Jews sometimes push things off the rails, but what you say is ridiculous. Show me the script or is it written afterwards?

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  468. @RestiveUs

    Here’s a news report that can be used in the near future to write an article about the US. Just change the place names and the people involved and the story will still make sense.

    https://www.revolver.news/2021/07/south-africa-riots-looting-critical-race-theory/

    • Thanks: RestiveUs
    • Replies: @Realist
  469. Erebus says:
    @utu

    In Africa 65+ yo fraction of population is much lower than in EU and US. For Italy it is 23% while for Tanzania it is 3.1% so mortality rate (IFR) in Tanzania would be at least 7.4 times lower than Italy.

    That begs the question of why Tanzania was/is being coerced into vaxxing its young, vastly less vulnerable population? Why were/are other young countries? Why not vaxx the vulnerable exclusively?

    Your point is typical of trollistic misdirection. Even assuming the vaccines were reasonably safe and effective, vaxxing the invulnerable makes no sense from a public health perspective. Given that they’re neither safe nor effective, it makes even less sense.

    Bringing up Taiwan and New Zealand is another misdirection. They’re islands. A cordon sanitaire is a much simpler matter to implement around islands.

    I’d maintain that that was the secret behind China’s success. Wuhan (and then Hubei) were sealed and so almost all of China’s COVID pandemic occurred in Wuhan/Hubei with statistically meaningless numbers everywhere else. The rest of the country was out of lockdown as soon as it became clear that the cordon was working. After that, cordon sanitaires were thrown up around local outbreaks (apartment complexes, neighbourhoods, etc) while everything around them went on normally or near normally.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @utu
  470. Realist says:
    @TTSSYF

    When you can not substantiate your argument with a commenter…call them a troll.

    What a chicken shit little piece of crap you are.

    • Troll: TTSSYF
  471. @Ber

    I went to see this but it looks like a screen capture of a video with no explanation of what it was or when it was made

  472. Erebus says:
    @GomezAdddams

    Beast thus far has been beat only in China –Lockdowns do work.

    Country wide, China’s lockdowns ended starting late February outside of Wuhan where it ended in the 1st week of April and were never re-implemented other than very short term and due to a local outbreak.

    It’s the cordon sanitaires China threw up around outbreaks that worked. It’s a very old pandemic strategy, and it works. The other side of that coin is real data. Everybody inside the cordon gets tested early and often and anyone testing positive is whisked into a COVID clinic.

    I don’t know the typical cycle count used in China’s PCR tests, but they’re clearly not souped up to generate false positives. Due to the (imported) outbreak in Foshan, Shenzhen recently tested its entire population 3x in 2 weeks. A total of ~40M tests without a single positive being found.

    IOW, China beat COVID by balancing sound public health measures with a view to the fact that life must go on or it won’t for an even large(r) part of the population than the virus itself would affect.

    • Thanks: Iris
  473. utu says:
    @Greta Handel

    I am puzzled what exactly do you want. The data (Pfizer in the US) show that vaccine efficacy for symptomatic cases was 95% which is 20-fold reduction of infection probability and subsequent data from Israel (Pfizer) show that symptomatic efficacy is 97% which is 33-fold reduction and for asymptomatic infections it is 94% which is 16.6-fold reduction while some other data imply 91.5% for asymptomatic infections which is 11.7-fold reduction. I haven’t seen data that would apply to the delta strain, yet.

    If you plan to write another response try to make an effort to raise my confidence that you are mentally sound.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  474. utu says:
    @Erebus

    “They’re islands.” – Red herring in the 21st century. In the next paragraph you contradict yourself. Hubei is not an island and yet it was doable. This could have been done in the US and in the EU if there was a will. In fact Norway and Finland did pretty well for not not being islands and not being Hubei.

    ” vaxxing the invulnerable makes no sense from a public health perspective”. Nobody is pushing them very hard to vaccinate. Tanzania neighbors Malawi, Kenya , Mozambique, Zambia, De, Rep. of Congo are under 2% of vaccination rate. I they vaccinate all 65 yo or older that would be enough to reduce effective IFR by 90% or so. 2%-3% is all what they need.

    • Replies: @Erebus
    , @JimDandy
  475. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    each jab tends to mitigate the severity of any infection.

    The vaccine may mitigate the severity of a Covid infection, but it may also cause debilitating or lethal blood clots, with or without Covid infection. This it does by inducing an autoimmune attack on the cells of the vascular endothelium.

    Blood clots thus formed in microcapilliaries result in permanent vessel blockage. In tissues lacking the capacityto regenerate, e.g., heart muscle, vessel blockage will cause permanent disability or death.

    The mechanism is nicely explained by our Doctor from Lytton, BC.

  476. Levtraro says:
    @Anon

    One of Socrates most beautiful, and hardest, teachings is “It is never right to do wrong.”

    I didn’t know this aphorism from Socrates, so thanks. But we cann’t have that. Western democracies have “reasons of State” to do evil for the greater good, even very great evil, for the slightly greater good.

  477. utu says:
    @CanSpeccy

    “But should be looked at again in the present context.” – Absolutely but w/o the hysteria of anti-vaxxers delusional paranoiacs. Post deaths of 10k-15k for 350 milion of single doses is a minuscule fraction.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  478. @Emslander

    Zoolander, you’re as thick as two planks.

    Have you noticed that, no matter which party is successful in the U.S Presidential elections, the ‘War Party’ always wins.
    (The Demo-craps and the Repugnant-cans are two factions of the SAME party).

    Both prostrate themselves to Israel, both expend Gentile blood and treasure in pursuit of wars on behalf of Israel. Both refuse to investigate 9/11 and both withhold classified documents on the JFK assassination – lest they reveal the truth about Zio orchestration.

    The Federal Reserve and indeed the entirety of western world’s financial system is controlled by the cartel of Zionist Usury Bankers.

    Said Zio-cabal planned and implemented the assassination of JFK/RFK/JFK Jr, the 9/11 False Flag and much, MUCH more.

    Are you that much of a dunce that you aren’t aware that every Congressman has to swear an oath of allegiance to Israel upon entering Congress ?

    Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney spells it out for you:

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  479. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu

    Well maybe we’re ready to write of ten of fifteen thousand dead for the greater good, but then cases are exploding where vaccination rates have been highest.

    So how much has been gained by the sacrifice of thousands?

    And we don’t know what the ultimate death toll will be, as the delayed action of vaccine-clotted blood vessels has yet to become manifest.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  480. @Wild Man

    I agree wholeheartedly that only the Vulnerable (the Elderly, 95%, and those seriously medically compromised, 5%) truly benefit (at least short-term) from the vaccines. More lives could have been saved globally by vaccinating the Elderly globally rather than vaccinating those at low risk from Covid-19, and still largely unknown risk from the vaccines.

    The Chinese and non-Westerners have done more and better basic science on SARS-CoV19. Chinese immunologists pointed out that glucocorticoids were an effective treatment in March 2020, largely by suppressing the over-activated immune system, such as cytokine storm (we still have not sorted out how much of Covid-19 is due to the virus and how much is due to immune response to the virus). The Brits “discovered” glucocorticoids in mid June 2020 as a treatment for Covid-19. The WHO finally cautiously dropped their resistance to glucocorticoids in serious cases in late August (by then many physicians were using glucocorticoids as the only cheap, effective treatment). Glucocorticoids still have not been approved by the FDA for Covid-19. Most breakthroughs would be expected to come through basic research on SARS-Cov2.

    However the much needed transparency came with politicization and censorship (Insane! Plus scientific ideas are now seen as valuable, and not freely shared, often not published until much later). Moderna people claim they made their vaccine immediately after the sequence was published by China. No doubt the FDA held up the progress (possibly the FDA would have been more receptive to bigger Pharma), but the focus at the time was on treatment, not prevention. Hopefully that is a lesson learned as many could have been saved with expediated trials. A year is quick for vaccines. However there are other preventatives that could have been combined while waiting.

    I lived in Singapore for four years, and was pleasantly surprised at how well they (all of SE Asia really) handled the pandemic using straight forward public health procedures (it is not racist to block people from a viral epicenter from entering your country). As bad as the original strains of SARS-CoV2 were, the delta variant (now spreading through Singapore) is much more infectious, and is exposing weaknesses in their response (their Vulnerable ARE vaccinated). But the US will no doubt underperform. Again.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
    , @Wild Man
  481. @utu

    We’ve come full circle: back to your original conflation of (1) relative symptomatic efficacy and (2) the effect, if any, of the Pfizer product on contagion/transmission of either the original or any variant strain:

    vaccine efficacy for symptomatic cases was 95% which is 20-fold reduction of infection probability

    No, they aren’t the same thing, which is what I pointed out to begin with.

    I doubt that anyone else who takes the time to read through our exchange will be “puzzled” by anything but your agenda in dissembling about this.

    • Agree: Levtraro, Nancy
    • Replies: @utu
  482. @michael888

    You wrote:

    ‘ More lives could have been saved globally by vaccinating the Elderly globally rather than vaccinating those at low risk from Covid-19.’

    How do you know that ?

    Are you aware that there is NO DOCUMENTED PROOF that the Covid jabs have saved even a SINGLE LIFE anywhere in the world ?

    Are you aware that the ‘vaccine’ manufacturers have themselves stated that their toxic brews do NOT guarantee prevention from contracting Covid nor do they provide protection from you reinfecting someone else ?

    Are you aware that these mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as vaccines, to the extent that they’re ‘effective’, this effectiveness only extends to reducing symptoms of Covid and nothing more ?

    If you think these jabs are so good for you Micky888, why don’t you get a double dose of the Astra Obscenica vaccine or the J & J (which I call Jenocide and Jenocide) ?

    Plunge a few of those into you and give us an update in a few months as to how you’re going.

    There’s every likelihood we may have to hire a medium to communicate with you via a seance and get your opinion – seeing as you may have expired by that time as a result of the jabs.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @john cronk
  483. Levtraro says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I would suggest testing mRNA vaccinated people to try and find cells with (pieces of) the spike protein far from the arm. Supposedly, human cells that have been taught to produce (pieces of) the spike protein by mRNA vaccines should stay in the location of injection. This is important because (pieces of) the spike protein could be toxic by themselves (which would also need to be more researched and corroborated) so we wouldn’t want them to be transported by the bloodstream to reach vital organs. More work is also needed on the impact of the spike protein itself, the one from the virus, versus the impact of the fragments of the spike protein that are being coded by human cells under instructions of mRNA vaccines.

    Btw, regarding side-effects and severe side-effects of mRNA vaccines, a study by the Center for Evidence-Based Practice of UPenn

    http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRNA%20vaccine%20review%20final.pdf

    essentially found that we don’t know yet and we will not know for sure until the end of Phase III trials, scheduled for mid 2021. Nevertheless, from small samples the study finds that between 5 and 10% of mRNA vaccine recipients present severe side-effects.

    Yes, for those that don’t know it yet, Phase III trials for mRNA vaccines are being conducted at the same time as the substance in being widely used in the whole population, somewhat defeating the purpose of Phase III trials..

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  484. utu says:
    @Greta Handel

    Are you saying that vaccinated people who are neither symptomatic nor asymptomatic are spreading the virus? Everybody vaccinated who is PCR negative is spreading the virus? Actually WTF are you trying to say? Are you afraid to state your thought in affirmative way? I am pretty sure that I am wasting time with you that you just another kooky individual but I continue only because I am curious about your state of mind.

    • Troll: Greta Handel
  485. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    Hey WOz,

    I responded to this at #492, but, by error, without the link back to you.

  486. This information needs to be presented on live television. Now that would wake a few people up and I think is the only thing that could stop this covid nonsense.

    http://www.thehardtruth.co.uk

  487. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Levtraro

    I would suggest testing mRNA vaccinated people to try and find cells with (pieces of) the spike protein far from the arm.

    Good idea. Perhaps this has already been done. I have asked Dr. Hoffe if he can provide a reference (in a hasty review, I see nothing via Google Scholar). I will report on any response.

    • Thanks: Levtraro
  488. @Truth Vigilante

    The J&J is not an mRNA vaccine.
    It’s an adenoviral / DNA design.

  489. Schuetze says:

    Just a little reminder that Jewish Lightening struck Tel Aviv a year before the outbreak. Isn’t it amazing how god’s chosen people always seem to be made aware of looming catastrophe’s months before anyone else? It must be because they are “God’s Chosen People”.

    • Thanks: Alfred
  490. Alfred says:

    I think that in due course someone will come up with a test to determine whether a person has been given this mRNA gene therapy or not. Those who have not been contaminated will not want to try to have kids with those who are carrying this Satanic brew.

    “Double double toil and trouble/Fire burn and cauldron bubble”

    • Agree: Schuetze
  491. Anzelo says:

    Do NOT go to discos, mass events especially in closed space. Discos are only for wimps & whores anyway. Now they will also poison you. They already experimented with that in Sing-Sing, Szeged, Hungary, years before.

  492. Anzelo says:
    @JohnD366

    They are desperate now, but interestingly also became way more evil. You can even feel it now. You cant repair them, they are the sons and daughters of DEVIL himself.

    I do not understand this behaviour though, maybe i should read a bible. Dont know which one though, so many exist. I have a collection, some even from XIX. century but cant choose.

  493. Wild Man says:
    @michael888

    Hello again. Yes … I generally agree with what you have outlined in your comment #497. But one point ….. on the Delta variant …. much more contagious – yes, but much less lethal, vs. the original strains – no? If it starts to turn out that Covid Officialdom’s hints that Delta is not less lethal and maybe more lethal, whilst still more contagious ….. as per vaccinology-101 ….. that be a sign of vaxx-induced-immune escape (which is a very unlikely outcome, under normal vaxx-program conditions, whereby we didn’t need to worry about the potential of a gain-of-function-human-engineered-pathogenicity of unknown overall etiology …. because all the lab-leak buggers continue to remain mum) ….. so if it turns out that this isn’t the normal Covid Officialdom constant anxiety-provoking embellishments that they have become so well-known for, well then ….. this would be a sign of a slow-moving disaster about to befall us.

    Let’s hope not.

  494. Anon[481] • Disclaimer says:

    A point that needs emphasis:

    1) Jews are more neurotic and terrified of disease than Anglos.

    2) Jews tend cluster in big cities, which are more likely to be wrecked by a pandemic.

    3) Jews have sizeable investments in businesses more likely to be ruined by a pandemic.

    A lot of Covid panic was driven by neurotic Jews.

    • Agree: Alfred
  495. Alfred says:

    I lived in Singapore for four years, and was pleasantly surprised at how well they handled the pandemic using straight forward public health procedures.

    You are not being serious surely?

    Singapore is entirely reliant on its strategic geographic location. To function at all, Singapore must keep its borders open. Trying to prevent a virus that is like the common cold is a total waste of time. They knew this all along. They are now “reopening” their borders. They reduced their links to “only” 70 cities from the normal 160. This is a total sham. They were merely pretending to be taking this matter seriously. A heavy dose of PR. Nothing more than that. I am surprised they managed to fool so many.

    Opening up the Singapore economy: Just how far and fast to do so?

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  496. Schuetze says:
    @utu

    Here we have another example of an utu mini-me demanding that free speech be eliminated:

    De-platform The Disinformation Dozen

    “I’ve been writing about anti-vaxxers for a dozen years now, warning of the threat to public health that they represent. Today, though, the threat is far greater than it was in the past, because now we’re in the midst of a deadly pandemic, and vaccines are our only tool out of it. Merely educating the public on the benefits of vaccines isn’t working in the face of a deluge of misinformation from anti-vaxxers. It’s time to take away their platforms.

    Douchebags like utu are constantly passed a microphone to defame their opposition my hebrews like (((Steven Salzberg))).

    So who are the Disinformation Dozen? Here they are:

    Joseph Mercola
    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
    Ty and Charlene Bollinger
    Sherri Tenpenny
    Rizza Islam
    Rashid Buttar
    Erin Elizabeth
    Sayer Ji
    Kelly Brogan
    Christiane Northrup
    Ben Tapper
    Kevin Jenkins

    I’ve written about Mercola and RFK Jr. before, multiple times, but not the others. I’m intentionally not providing links to their anti-vax accounts, which include Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, and dedicated websites, because any links simply add to their influence. Mercola, for example, has become wealthy by selling dietary supplements with unproven and often bogus health claims, and by pushing anti-vaccine myths, as I wrote all the way back in 2010. Perhaps if people realized this, they wouldn’t be so quick to believe him.

    Just like self anointed science emperor utu, (((Salzberg))) has appointed himself god’s chosen covid truth science rabbi. I find it ironic and revealing that these Jews try to gain cultural firepower by playing off of the old flick “dirty dozen” in which some ex-cons commit murder and mayhem on behalf of that very same old psychopathic tribe of genocidal jews. This kind of tribal scientists make utu very, very proud.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  497. @BigJimSportCamper

    WebMD? The Snopes of medicine? My daughter is a physician and says WebMD is trash. Why not cite Fauci if you want real credibility??

    Well if you actually read the article you would see that WebMD was sourcing a study.

    Maybe read it again?
    https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210629/almost-all-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated
    Stuart C. Ray, MD, professor of Medicine and Oncology in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, says. “It seems compelling, even for skeptics, that unvaccinated people represent 99% of those now dying from COVID-19, when they represent less than 50% of the adult population in the USA.”

    If your daughter is a physician then what does she think about you following the blog of a doctor who has no medical or biological background and doesn’t even list his doctorate?

    Like I said the virus deniers / vax deniers were wrong and should just man up and admit it.

    The anti-vax crowd can’t even agree on a single conspiracy. There are people here claiming the virus doesn’t exist and there are people that are saying the vaccine works but no one should take it. That should be a red flag if your side can’t even agree on if something exists or not.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  498. republic says:
    @gsjackson

    PCR had open comments from February to June 2020

    • Replies: @gsjackson
    , @john cronk
  499. Wild Man says:
    @Schuetze

    I was wondering if Psaki would come clean on the dirty dozen she referenced last week in her calls for Facebook to quadruple-down and vaxx-censor harder …. or else. I guess she doesn’t have to, because she borrowed that rhetoric from the ‘Center For Countering Digital Hate’, that you referenced (it sounds like a Jewish-controlled group like a name like that – is it?).

    Anyway …. when Psaki was referencing ‘the dirty dozen’ last week …. I thought we would come to find that her list would include:

    – Dr. Robert Malone
    – Dr. Peter McCullough
    – Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
    – Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche
    – Michael Yeadon

    So Psaki’s list doesn’t reference any of these people? What gives? Psaki is nuts if she thinks she is actually hereby censoring the vaccine-hesitant, whom are also experts in their own right, of one sort or the other, whom have communicated with the general public with regards to their vaxx-hesitancy stance & concern, if she doesn’t also censor these 6.

    Jeez …. Psaki … turns out she is lightweight.

    Just for the record ….. if these 6 are all completely censored (instead of just partially censored as it now stands with these 6) …. we will know how desperate the Biden admin has become, over this vaxx-thing …. which would be very telling imo (because these 6 are all highly rational …. even though Yeadon has become unglued and suspects the very worst … his vaxx discourse is otherwise rational).

    • Replies: @geokat62
  500. geokat62 says:
    @Wild Man

    ‘Center For Countering Digital Hate’, that you referenced (it sounds like a Jewish-controlled group like a name like that – is it?).

    What other group luvs to use the word “hate” as a noun?

    • Agree: Wild Man, john cronk
    • Replies: @john cronk
  501. Wild Man says:
    @John Johnson

    Look – I’m gonna make this simple. If it turns out to be true (as the Israeli’s and others now suspect) that exposure to a wild covid infection, ….. offers 7x the efficacy against infection/reinfection vs. vaxx, …. then that means we are trading a higher infection-rate overall now, among the unvaxxed, in order to obtain a lower overall infection rate in the future.

    There is nothing dumb about that. These Covid Officialdom people that say otherwise (like Fauci) are actually imposters, vaccine-competency-wise (but it is much much more likely this isn’t just a matter of incompetency -eh? It’s most probable that Fauci is up to snuff in his field of expertise … which makes Fauci’s actions, … actions that feature malice then – eh?).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  502. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    Perhaps you will find the Newslinks, I posted today, interesting.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  503. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Alfred

    Trying to prevent a virus that is like the common cold is a total waste of time.

    Having had it, I would say it is worse than the common cold, chiefly because of the prolonged mental and physical debilitation, apparently due to blood clotting induced by the spike protein.

    However, the chief measure of harm has been death, and by that standard Covid, with a mortality rate of less than one in a thousand according to current reports from the UK, is no worse than the flu. So risk of death no longer provides a rational basis for continued government interference in the lives of the people or hysterics here.

    • Agree: Alfred, john cronk
  504. @Realist

    I hit LewRockwell first thing every morning. I hit ZH thereafter, but didn’t see the article you referenced. Thanks for the info.

    I hope you hit the site I referenced. It’s the absolute best thing concerning Covid I’ve seen. Anyone with an open mind must conclude that the whole thing was concocted for money and political opportunism.

  505. HVM says:
    @Ktulu

    Interesting train of thought.

  506. HVM says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Now that is getting really spooky.

    Spooks?

  507. Erebus says:
    @utu

    Red herring in the 21st century. In the next paragraph you contradict yourself. Hubei is not an island and yet it was doable.

    Another of your attempts at misdirection.

    There is no contradiction. My point was that the natural cordon sanitaire created by geography is what “saved” Taiwan & New Zealand. Not your…

    “… contact tracing, border closures, lockdowns, social distancing and maskings…” (@#325).

    In fact, most of the 50 (say) top performing countries are islands. Some went through the motions, some did more than that, some did much less. What they had in common is that they were isolated.

    China’s ability to effectively isolate both small and large outbreaks while allowing everybody around them to carry on business as usual is what kept the world’s most populous country and its largest economy going. Lockdowns, social distancing and masking were held to the minimum (esp. the first 2) and lifted as soon as the situation stabilized, commensurate with China’s recognition that public health is a more complex issue than can be handled by the sort of ham-handed tactics suggested by simplistic, sinister trolls.

    Hubei is not an island and yet it was doable. This could have been done in the US and in the EU if there was a will.

    Of course, but does it take significantly less “will” to issue a variety of onerous, counterproductive mandates and “guidelines” and then enforce them for 15-18 months in the face of increasing public resistance and evidence that they weren’t doing anything good for the public’s health? Would you say that the West’s politicians and health authorities lacked “will” in destroying their countries’ social fabric and economies? I’d venture that they showed, and continue to show extraordinary, if utterly malevolent “will”.

    If it wasn’t “will”, was something else lacking? Did they develop a collective blind spot for centuries of successful pandemic control practices? Was the blind spot itself wilful?

    Or did a greater authority bend their wills to ends inconsistent with their publics’ well-being? The documentary evidence points to the latter, and none to the former.

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  508. @Wild Man

    Look – I’m gonna make this simple. If it turns out to be true (as the Israeli’s and others now suspect) that exposure to a wild covid infection, ….. offers 7x the efficacy against infection/reinfection vs. vaxx, …. then that means we are trading a higher infection-rate overall now, among the unvaxxed, in order to obtain a lower overall infection rate in the future.

    Where do you get 7x and why would exposure be stronger than exposure + vaccine?

    These Covid Officialdom people that say otherwise (like Fauci) are actually imposters, vaccine-competency-wise (but it is much much more likely this isn’t just a matter of incompetency -eh? It’s most probable that Fauci is up to snuff in his field of expertise … which makes Fauci’s actions, … actions that feature malice then – eh?).

    I really don’t care about what Fauci has to say or any single government official for that matter. My opinion is based on what is happening across the country.

    There is a very clear pattern of hospitals being inundated with unvaccinated Covid patients. The ability to question the existence of the virus or the efficacy of the vaccine is no longer possible and yet we have people here doing both. States with low vaccination rates have higher infection rates. The virus/vax deniers should man up and admit they were wrong. This is a real pandemic and there was no rational reason for Dr. Roberts to use quotes in the title. It is a pandemic by all pre-existing definitions.

    The remaining question is the source and my money is on a Chinese lab leak. But I am open to alternative explanations.

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  509. geokat62 says:
    @John Johnson

    It is a pandemic by all pre-existing definitions.

    Pre-existing definitions? hmmmmmm…

    Excerpt from, The Swine Flu Panic of 2009:

    According to the regulations, phase 6 becomes effective when a new virus is spreading uncontrollably in several regions of the world. The regulations say nothing about the severity of the disease.

    In fact, the vast majority of experts on epidemics automatically associate the term “pandemic” with truly aggressive viruses. On the WHO Web site, the answer to the question “What is a pandemic?” included mention of “an enormous number of deaths and cases of the disease” — until May 4, 2009. That was when a CNN reporter pointed out the discrepancy between this description and the generally mild course of the swine flu. The language was promptly removed

    The situation on June 11, 2009 did not correspond with these descriptions. Critics were already asking derisively whether the WHO had any plans to declare the latest outbreak of the common cold a pandemic. “Sometimes some of us think that WHO stands for World Hysteria Organization,” says Richard Schabas, the former chief medical officer for Canada’s Ontario Province.

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/reconstruction-of-a-mass-hysteria-the-swine-flu-panic-of-2009-a-682613-amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

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