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United States Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney explains a special software developed by the National Security Agency that can be used to alter vote counts in elections. He explains the software and its use in this 7 minute video: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-cia-ability-to-hack-the-vote/

In this article, the Off-Guardian explains the use of the software to alter the outcome of the vote in Wisconsin and Michigan: https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/03/discuss-election-day/

In this article the Fake News Site, CNN, attempts to explain away the obviously altered vote: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/why-mail-in-ballots-were-counted-late-in-states-like-pennsylvania-and-michigan/index.html

Voting by mail greatly facilitates the use of the vote-altering software and the use of ballot dumps. One reason for the mask mandate and Covid fear was to justify mass voting by mail.

The media speaks with one voice. The print, TV, NPR, social media, and the anti-Trump Internet sites exercise censorship and control the explanations.

We are experiencing a well designed and successful coup against American democracy and accountable government.

No, this is not a conspiracy theory. It is a revolution against red state America.

Republicans are too establishment to effectively fight back. They fear that exposing and resisting a stolen election would discredit American democracy. In effect, patriotism makes them impotent.

Republicans should think instead what it means to be governed by a President covered in criminal scandal who also seems to be suffering mental confusion and is likely for one or both of these reasons to be moved aside. If Kamala Harris becomes president, we will have in the Oval Office a female of color who hates white people and is vindictive against them.

The Democrat Party is now in the hands of indoctrinated leftists who despise the working class and champion “oppressed minorities.” Immigration floodgates will be thrown open. Red states will be cut out of the federal budget. Gutsy Republicans such as Devin Nunes and Jim Jorden will be falsely investigated, and Trump will be falsely prosecuted. The rest of us will be silenced in one way or the other.

Think about how unlikely the Biden/Harris ticket is for success. Everyone knows that Biden suffers mental confusion. His campaign events were barely attended. Harris had so little support in the Democrat primaries that she was the first to drop out. Even the Democrats didn’t want her; yet she ends up the Democrat VP choice. Americans watched as Democrat regimes in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, and other cities responded to rioting and looting by hampering and defunding the police.

How can such an unattractive party whose elected officials refused to enforce law and order win the presidential election?

The answer is fraud.

Whether or not you believe this report from a US Postal Service employee that he was ordered to backdate late mail-in ballots in Michigan, it serves as an example of how easy voting by mail makes vote fraud: https://www.rt.com/usa/505653-project-veritas-whistleblower-mailin-ballots/

The threat posed to democracy by the software described by General McInerney is devastating. With such software in the hands of intelligence services, every election in every country can be decided behind the scenes.

This makes it easier for elites to rule. The vote altering software turns democracy into a cover for self-interested rule. Yes, elites have always tried to purchase elections, but now they can program them.

I have often written that the digital revolution was the greatest threat humanity faces. Proof piles up every day.

Press Prostitutes Make Fools of Themselves Trying to Cover Up Vote Fraud for Democrats

ORDER IT NOW

It is amusing to watch the press prostitutes try to cover-up vote fraud for the Democrats. Here is an example from the bought-and-paid-for BBC whose “Reality Check Team” has undertaken to “fact check” the “rumor” of a 138,000 sudden ballot dump for Biden in Michigan during the early hours of morning when no one was watching: https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

The BBC claims this was a “data entry error” that was corrected. The “data entry error” was not corrected, if it was, until it became an issue. How does the BBC know that the sudden jump in votes for Biden wasn’t fraud that when exposed was explained away by crooked officials as a “data entry error.”

Note also that the exact same thing occurred in neighboring Wisconsin at about the same time. So we had two simultaneous “data entry errors” in two critical contested states that wiped out Trump’s lead? How likely is that?

Note also that correcting the “data entry error” did not result in the reappearance of Trump’s lead. So how was the error corrected?

It shows how utterly stupid the presstitutes are that they report that a data entry error that erased Trump’s lead was “corrected” but the lead remained erased!

Why does a British news service have a “Fact Check Team” to protect an American political party? Is the campaign against red state America organized globally?

Note two other anomalous vote patterns. In the critical swing states, the Democrat votes for senators do not match the votes for Biden, and despite what seems to be a record Democrat turnout the Democrats lost house seats in the election! What explains the absence of “down the ticket” voting in Democrat House and Senate voting? Fraud in the Biden vote is an obvious answer. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-does-biden-have-so-many-more-votes-democrat-senators-swing-states

Further reading:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/trump-legal-adviser-jenna-ellis-discusses-magical-138000-michigan-biden-votes-appeared-nowhere-middle-night-video/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-michigan-county-discovered-omitting-votes-trump/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/going-minnesota-wisconsin-89-90-turnout-something-highly-unlikely/

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  1. If you make a random draw of 100 children in a school of 1000 children with the same proportion of boys and girls the probability that there is only girls or only boys is close to zero. In fact it is : (1/2) multiplied 100 times by itself. Does the same principle applies for the election ? Yes. Why would all the by – mail votes only benefit Biden ? No good reason… Of course, there might be some bias but not to point of suddenly changing the trend. the fraud organizers are also smart enough to mix their false Biden ballots with some true or false Trump ballots so as to make it not too blatantly suspicious..

  2. And by the way, did the same happened 4 years ago ? It should have if you think the dems and the “presstitutes” are telling the truth today. If not it’s even more suspicious.

  3. Dumbo says:

    Just the order in which things happened (are happening) is very weird. First one candidate clearly winning, then another… And such a turnout for Biden? Sometimes of 90%? I don’t know…

    Increasingly the modern world feels like a play at a theatre… First the ongoing Covid farce, now this elections farce… And in the meantime of course some more “normal” terrorist psy-ops.

    Dreams inside dreams…

  4. Sorry Maybe I made a little mistake in my example but not big. If you draw a boy, there is one less in the school so the next has little smaller probability of being a boy. But it doesn’t change much the result ( still close to zero…)

  5. Begemot says:

    For months Trump and his people have been claiming that mail-in ballots will be corrupt, bogus, unreliable. This idea has gained considerable traction among Trump partisans.

    For months Trumps and his people have been claiming that the polls showing Biden having a lead over Trump are wrong, that they are actually lying. This scenario asserts that Trump in fact enjoys majority support among voters.

    These two notions have created an expectation of victory at the polls for Trump. Thus, if victory does not come, then it can only be because the Democrats stole the election. It couldn’t be because the preceding claims are false.

    One of the techniques of the color revolutions carried out by the US government abroad has been to put forth claims prior to an election that will serve to deligitimize the outcome, unless the desired candidate wins.

    Do we have a scenario here that Trump is using to delegitimize a vote that does not give him victory, thereby trying to shift the decision into venues where he thinks he has a better chance of remaining in power?

    Is the coup that Roberts claims is being carried out in fact coming from the Republican side?

    As an aside, consider:

    Trump won Michigan in 2016 by 10,704 votes over Clinton (https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/michigan-president-clinton-trump). Trump considers this a legitimate count.

    Today the vote count in Michigan shows Biden leading Trump by 149,388 votes (https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/michigan/). Trump considers this an illegitimate count.

    Do we conclude therefore that the bigger the lead, the bigger the fraud? Or, is it possible not so many people voted for Trump this year?

  6. anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    For all you trumpidiots, the logic goes something like this;

    1. Trump screwed up the handling of the pandemic. This is clear for all to see. The counts of total cases and the deaths are out there.

    2. Trump is a retarded fool who even urged people to inject disinfectant into their bodies. We all heard him say it with a straight face, with not an ironic twinkle in his eye. People will be seeing that video 100yrs from now, and ROFL’ing… and not just at him, but at all the 100+million of his retarded fans.

    3. Trump the orange moron urged everyone to eschew the mask. Result, many more COVID cases. At this point over 100k cases a day!

    4. Now, the common Democrats are perhaps smarter than the low-IQ common repuglicans. They figured that posting their ballots would be safer. So they choose this method in large numbers. Smart guys.

    5. Vote counting starts with in-person ballots, and the Orange clown sees a surge. Why? Because, the postal Democrats are not reflected in the count, as yet!

    6. Then the postal ballots start getting counted and the senile fellow sees a catch-up surge.

    Sheesh! You fricking idiots.

  7. The president must move quickly to seize every ballot and have each one audited, to match with a living person.

    In contested counties of Wisconsin and Michigan, local republicans should ask every known Republican to muster and be counted. If the Facts on the Ground don’t add up, the election results are illegitimate.

    The elections will have to be run again.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper, Thim, Sulu
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Fran Taubman
  8. c matt says:
    @anonymous

    Now, the common Democrats are perhaps smarter than the low-IQ common repuglicans. They figured that posting their ballots would be safer.

    Do you send cash through the mail? So why your vote?

    Please explain how Sweden, which did not shut down like every other nancy country, is doing just fine with respect to covid? Explain how the CDC’s own numbers show that covid deaths without at least TWO other co-morbidities is around 10,000, not 200,000 (nor the 2 million senile Joe keeps quoting). Explain how as Covid “deaths” rose, the flu seems to have almost disappeared? Explain how the projections of millions of deaths was off by orders of magnitude?

  9. MB says: • Website

    For our Trump deranged idiot/troll

    Fauci was still telling us in ’03 that Aids was going to be a global pandemic. Aside from wearing masks, goggles and anonymous sex hookups off the web, how was his plan better than D’s?
    FTM Joe wants to keep the country locked down and a further unconstitutional mask mandate.

    Unless the mask is an N95 they don’t do much.
    Besides when did we all become infected until proven healthy?

    The plannedemic played right into the voting by mail, which is more susceptible to fraud than in person. Likewise masks for those into peaceful rioting and looting.
    What’s not to like?

    IOW in the past PCR has just shut comments down altogether, thanks to trolls like yourself.

  10. @Christophe GJ

    Excellent point. What is roughly a binary or normal distribution has the most obese tail ever seen in statistics.

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  11. @c matt

    Agree, failed projections is a telltale sign of sloppy or biased reasoning. We see the same thing in the lack of predictive power of climate models.

  12. @MB

    He also needs to stop Anonymous replies, full stop. Anatoly Karlin and other columnists do it. It seriously limits Troll traffic.
    Tip: do not reply to Anonymous, as you only encourage these *****

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  13. Max Payne says:

    If Kamala Harris becomes president, we will have in the Oval Office a female of color who hates white people and is vindictive against them.

    This is a good thing. Hillary will be nominated VP, then Harris will step down and Hillary will finally become President followed by a war against Russia, Iran and North Korea (all at once). We can all watch it on TV during lock down. Win-win-win I say.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • LOL: Bro43rd, Tom Welsh, Iris
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Tom Welsh
  14. @Begemot

    I can understand how some voters in the rust-belt and along the southern border, who in 2016 liked Trump’s protectionist and xenophobic messages, might have become disappointed in him and stayed home this time.

    But the large, record-setting turnout statistic is obviously a result of DEMs pushing ballots into the hands of lots of registereds who otherwise would not have participated.

    Foul!

    Someday the DEMs will legislate vote by proxy. A registered partisan will have his e-ballot automatically pre-filled according to the party’s recommendations, and cast.

    For each election, e.g. several per year, in some states.

    If the voter chooses to show up at the polling station, the automatic casting feature, for that election, will be disabled (though the ballot presented will still come pre-filled out).

  15. nickels says:

    Dr. Roberts called it from day one.
    Every day we watch it unfold exactly as he predicted.

    If these people win by criminality, I’m sure they will rule with measure and justice.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  16. roonaldo says:

    Recall the 2016 election, their tool Jill Stein, the cynical harassment of electors, and attempts to prevent states from certifying their vote by the constitutional deadline.

    The Democrat fraud squads have come a long way since their Cook County shenanigans in 1960 gave them Illinois and thus the win. Democrat control of the big cities gives their fraud machinery a huge advantage. The Republicans got one back in 2000 when the Supreme Court thwarted the jurisdiction of the election laws of Florida. Nowadays, we’re all masked-up in our new Bandana Republic.

    • Replies: @Yusef
  17. Covid and voting by mail. One fraud perfectly setting the stage for the other. President Kamala Harris, the first former sex worker as President.

    • Agree: Thomasina, Bubba
    • LOL: tomo
    • Replies: @sally
  18. Bro43rd says:

    No matter who ends up being potus, the government wins again. Liberty suffers. Democracy is just a polite way of saying mob rule.

    • Replies: @G J T
  19. Mail in ballots lend themselves to fraud via this: (from Fox)

    “Ballot harvesting, or the practice of allowing political operatives and others to collect voters’ ballots and turn them in en masse to polling stations, has drawn bipartisan concerns of fraud from election watchers.

    [MORE]

    Several states have enacted some restrictions on the practice, while others have expressly allowed it or failed to regulate it at all. According to a 2019 analysis by Ballotpedia, 24 states and the District of Columbia permit someone chosen by the voter to return mail ballots on their own, with nine of those states adding some specific exceptions.

    Twelve states outline who specifically can return ballots (i.e., family members or caregivers); and one state explicitly requires only voters can return their ballots. Eleven states establish a limit on the number of ballots that a so-called “harvester” can return.

    Imposing restrictions on the practice has led to legal challenges. In Arizona, a federal appeals court upheld a ballot harvesting prohibition, despite a claim that it unfairly discriminated against minorities who might need help filling out their ballots.

    Some prominent examples of ballot harvesting have already impacted national politics. In 2016, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law AB1921, which legalized ballot harvesting. Previously, only a family member or someone living in the same household was permitted to drop off mail ballots for a voter, but the new allowed anyone — including political operatives — to collect and return them for a voter.

    HOW BALLOT HARVESTING HELPED DEMS ROUT GOP IN CALIFORNIA

    The move apparently led to results. In 2018, despite holding substantial leads on Election Day, many Republican candidates in California saw their advantages shrink, and then disappear, as late-arriving Democratic votes were counted in the weeks following the election. Many observers pointed to the Democrats’ use of ballot harvesting as a key to their success in the elections.

    Richard Kaufman, right, a volunteer election official in Superior Wis., helps Betty Bockovich cast a vote at a curbside voting station set up outside the Government Center in Superior, Wis., Tuesday, April 7, 2020. Voters could ring a doorbell and poll workers would come outside to help them vote in the state’s presidential primary election if they didn’t want to go inside to cast their ballots because of the COVID-19 outbreak. (Dan Kraker/Minnesota Public Radio via AP)
    Richard Kaufman, right, a volunteer election official in Superior Wis., helps Betty Bockovich cast a vote at a curbside voting station set up outside the Government Center in Superior, Wis., Tuesday, April 7, 2020. Voters could ring a doorbell and poll workers would come outside to help them vote in the state’s presidential primary election if they didn’t want to go inside to cast their ballots because of the COVID-19 outbreak. (Dan Kraker/Minnesota Public Radio via AP)
    “Anecdotally, there was a lot of evidence that ballot harvesting was going on,” Neal Kelley, the registrar for voters in Southern California’s Orange County, told Fox News at the time.

    In Orange County — once seen as a Republican stronghold in the state — every House seat went to a Democrat after an unprecedented “250,000” vote-by-mail drop-offs were counted, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

    “People were carrying in stacks of 100 and 200 of them. We had had multiple people calling to ask if these people were allowed to do this,” Kelley said.

    Orange County Republican Chairman Fred Whitaker said the ballot harvesting “directly caused the switch from being ahead on election night to losing two weeks later.”

    EX-CLINTON LAWYER THREATENS TO SUE NEVADA UNLESS IT RESTRICTS BALLOT HARVESTING

    Later, in 2019, a GOP operative in North Carolina was arrested related to alleged ballot harvesting there.

    “The evidence that we will provide today will show that a coordinated, unlawful and substantially resourced absentee ballot scheme operated in the 2018 general election” in parts of North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District, former state elections director Kim Strach remarked at the time.

    The results in the race were eventually thrown out amid concerns of ballot harvesting and other fraud. Republican Dan Bishop won a September 2019 special election for the seat.

    RealClearInvestigations has found ballot harvesting is common in other states, including Florida, where harvesters are known as “boleteros,” and Texas, where they’re called “politiqueras.”

    The issue was again thrown into focus in March, when an ex-Clinton lawyer threatened to sue Nevada unless it relaxed its ballot harvesting rules amid the coronavirus pandemic.

    “GET RID OF BALLOT HARVESTING, IT IS RAMPANT WITH FRAUD,” President Trump wrote on Twitter on Tuesday. “THE USA MUST HAVE VOTER I.D., THE ONLY WAY TO GET AN HONEST COUNT!”

  20. There’s much precedent for calling for a new election. The US agenicies have used it many times in countries to change an outcome that didn’t go their way. If there’s evidence of wide spread fraud then the way to go forward would be this: present the case to the SCOTUS, and plead it.

  21. Trump did not cover his ass. He should have fired a few thousand military generals, and promoted his own, ones he can count on. Obama did it.

    • Agree: Liza, Druid, Hiram of Tyre
    • Replies: @anonymous
  22. INVALIDATE THE ELECTION
    on grounds of rampaging, thorough, multi location vote and election FRAUD and scumbaggery on the part of thge vile DemonRats
    A DO-OVER…
    a new election…a few months from now.
    Lock it in by LEGISLATION so that the Cuckmaster Roberts on The SCOTUS can’t screw it up with his Lefty co-conspirators.
    ZERO mail-in ballots…at all…ever—The MOST vile scam the DemonRats have ever perpetrated.
    Covid-19 Jive and Rationale…out the window…OVER
    Requested Absentee Ballots, verified..
    and VOTE IN PERSON on paper, auditable ballots…ONLY
    NO MORE DOMESTIC ENEMY SHENANIGANS !

    DEATH TO COMMUNISTS and their slobbering lackeys.

    • Agree: Gleimhart Mantooso
    • Replies: @Yusef
  23. Good to see the white supremacist in chief go down in flames along with his loser supporters. Hopefully this inglorious defeat knocks some sense into Republicans to support higher quality candidates.

  24. @Abolish_public_education

    If the Demoncraps had not actually filled out the ballot papers before pushing them into peoples’ hands, that would not be fraud. That is not foul play. Are you saying they did fill them out then hand them out?

  25. MaxyBoy says:
    @anonymous

    There is no mega death virus other than the seasonal common cold so your argument falls flat on it’s face out of the box.
    Thank God for Trump calling out this bull shit.

    • Agree: Alfred, TheTrumanShow
    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  26. @Pseudonymous1

    How crestfallen you will be when the God-Emperor ritually slays his slimy would-be tormentors and nails their greasy scalps to the Senate door.

  27. @Begemot

    Today the vote count in Michigan shows Biden leading Trump by 149,388 votes (https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/michigan/). Trump considers this an illegitimate count.

    This really has nothing to do with me, being on the other side of the world.

    However, it’s already plain as day that the current vote-counting shenanigans in the USA are rife with fraud.

    Take that reported Michigan lead of 149,388 votes (or whatever it might be now). Sure, it’s a number, and numbers don’t lie, right? If all one is watching is the numbers that come out the end of the pipe, then everything is fine.

    UNLESS one takes note of where those numbers are coming from, and how they are getting there.

    Dr. Roberts convincingly shows that fraud is afoot. An instantaneous vertical jump of 1,000’s of Biden votes (with ZERO corresponding Trump votes) in the middle ofthe night, in not just one but THREE closely contested states, shows without any doubt that smoke and mirrors are in play behind the curtain.

    Plus a bucketload of other shady stuff being reported by postal workers etc, and even being filmed and posted on the web.

    Like I said, it’s nothing to do with me – it’s your country, so go spastic. I do have to wonder, though, are people really that dumb that they can’t see what’s happening – or are they choosing not to see it, or are they so bloody-minded that they are willingly complicit or otherwise just don’t care?

    The university study has already been done which scientifically demonstrates that the USA is an oligarchy, not a democracy. Is this the election in which the American people finally capitulate to the reality and abandom any pretence of egalitarianism?

  28. nsa says:

    Has anyone here considered the possibility that the pre-election polls may actually have been accurate, but the results jiggered by some entity surreptitiously hacking the voting machines and/or tabulation software en masse across the country? After all, the electronic voting machines and tabulation software are just variations on those annoying electronic casino slots that have a built-in 5% to 20% discrepancy favoring the house. And what about the tabulation software? All Microsoft and Apple operating systems have convenient backdoors to facilitate snooping by the boys and girls in Ft. Meade and Langley. Impossible you say? There are numerous videos on U-tube of hacker morons , with ball caps on backwards, merrily demonstrating how easy it is to hack a voting machine. If a hacker moron can do it………..

  29. Liza says:
    @anonymous

    Trump the orange moron urged everyone to eschew the mask. Result, many more COVID cases. At this point over 100k cases a day!

    When officials talk about “cases”, this does not mean you have the corona flu. It means that you tested positive. The majority of these “cases” don’t translate into a hot infection. Most will not get any symptoms at all. That’s it.

    Regarding the people who die from corona-19 – it was their time. They did not die because they came into contact with the virus, they died because they were weakened (from underlying disease, usually – tho not always – combined with advanced age). You have to go sometimes. People who are susceptible will continue to die of infections of one sort or another. They always have. You don’t need a farce like this “covid”.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  30. @anonymous

    You must be an extremely smart nigga.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  31. @nickels

    If voting fraud is OK, then remaining in office after your term has expired is OK.

    This will be fun to watch….

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  32. Maybe now Americans will finally wake up to the notion that WE THE PEOPLE, the fearless ones anyway (screw the cowards…white guilt doofuses, limo libs, and those too afraid to defend the Bill of Rights) must do what is necessary to round up the psychopaths, put ’em on trial and send them to Antarctica where they’ll have to eat each other. But I would love to see just how evil Kamala Harris is….the PoC version of Killary? Or worse? Because real men regardless of race, color, creed will not tolerate her communist crapola. Take the guns, eh Kamala? Well, it might work in libtard central….

    One thing PCR gets right though is the RINO cowards who will just step aside and let Harris turn this nation communist…maybe they’ll be the first whites she genocides. Bwahahahahahahahahahahah!

  33. I would urge everyone to give this a read; it’s an eye-opener. It’s a detailed account about how some types of election fraud are executed from a guy who was paid to do it.

    First paragraph: A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he’s been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades.
    https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

    There’s no telling how many politicians, around the country and over decades, were never legitimately elected.

  34. vot tak says:

    The attempted color rev is being done by those who own trump. They are called israelis and one of their prominent spokescritters is netanyahoo. A much better analysis than this regurgitated rush limbaugh likudite toss from roberts is this article from Street written before the election. In it, he lays out the strategy the likudites will likely use to try and invalidate an election their trump bitch loses.

    Trump may well grab the power however the election goes – and the establishment Democrats don’t have the will to stop him

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/505306-trump-grab-power-democrats/

    “Those mail-in ballots are going to lean heavily Democratic, since Democrats take the coronavirus more seriously than do Republicans. With many right-wing state and federal courts on their side all the way up to the now 6-3 right-wing US Supreme Court, Trump’s army of (anti-)election lawyers will move to stop the counting of mail-in ballots, thereby throwing Trump the election in the states that matter and thus in the nation.”

    And right on cue, here’s bibi’s buttboi:

    Stop the Count’: Trump Says Every Vote Coming in After Election Day Won’t Be Counted

    https://sputniknews.com/us-elections-2020-news/202011051081025261-Stop-the-Count-Trump-Says-Every-Vote-Coming-in-After-Election-Day-Wont-Be-Counted/

    The trump zionazi-gay quislings are going all out to block or subvert any election results that could boot them from the white house. And the likudite psywar machinery, “american conservative” talk radio, fox, p. c. roberts, the white supremacist neocon toss here, etc. are supporting this maidan effort. As one of the other commenters wrote earlier on this comment thread, there has been a color rev effort to delegitimize any election results that go against bibi’s buttboi starting from months back. This is color rev psywar being used in the usa, on americans, and roberts is actively part of this likudite israeli psywar to keep their quisling in the white house.

    • Agree: Harold Smith
    • Troll: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Poco
    , @Verymuchalive
  35. @Begemot

    Do we conclude therefore that the bigger the lead, the bigger the fraud? Or, is it possible not so many people voted for Trump this year?

    Let’s just totally leave out the fact the Dem governor of Michigan has spent the past 8 months shitting all over her constituents.

    Nah, that couldn’t have anything to do with the situation.

    • Agree: Richard B
  36. @MB

    The plannedemic played right into the voting by mail, which is more susceptible to fraud than in person.

    The DNC took advantage of the CCP flu.

    What’s not to love?

  37. @anonymous

    i hate trump and want him to lose. But ive watched a few of these elections now and i seen things here that ive never seen before. The CIA could not allow trump to win. They were never going to allow him to win this time. so its worth looking

  38. @Pseudonymous1

    Anyone who would call Trump “the white supremacist in chief” after reading an article pointing out that Trump LOST support among white males is too stupid to post on UNZ, or frankly any other website.

  39. If the massive-election-fraud sting operation described in the video below is legit – and it sounds plausible both in terms of technology and tactic – there will be far-reaching political consequences.

    • Thanks: The Real World
  40. Icy Blast says:
    @anonymous

    The worst posts always seem to be from a person who uses “anonymous” in his or her handle. You can’t be serious with this stuff. I hope you are at least getting paid for humiliating yourself this way.

  41. vot tak says:

    One thing about mail in voting is that it is a paper ballot. Not an electronic one. This forces diebold and co. out of the loop. It renders any diebold style electronic, paperless, unaccountable, vote manipulation null and void. No wonder the zionazi-(very)gays (that’s likudites and their various buttbois and buttgrrrrrls) are hysterical about mail in voting. It’s a paper ballot that is a document that can be actually checked in the real world. This kills their ability to manipulate the vote through diebold type electronic vote count fraud.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  42. utu says:
    @c matt

    Please explain how Sweden, which did not shut down like every other nancy country, is doing just fine with respect to covid?

    Sweden is not doing well. Sweden killed 11 times more people than Norway that has similar human index of development and similar population density to Sweden. Actually Sweden had many countermeasures:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/
    Take Sweden, an alleged example of the great success or the terrible failure of herd immunity without lockdowns, depending on whom you ask. In reality, although Sweden joins many other countries in failing to protect elderly populations in congregate-living facilities, its measures that target super-spreading have been stricter than many other European countries. Although it did not have a complete lockdown, as Kucharski pointed out to me, Sweden imposed a 50-person limit on indoor gatherings in March, and did not remove the cap even as many other European countries eased such restrictions after beating back the first wave. (Many are once again restricting gathering sizes after seeing a resurgence.) Plus, the country has a small household size and fewer multigenerational households compared with most of Europe, which further limits transmission and cluster possibilities. It kept schools fully open without distancing or masks, but only for children under 16, who are unlikely to be super-spreaders of this disease. Both transmission and illness risks go up with age, and Sweden went all online for higher-risk high-school and university students—the opposite of what we did in the United States. It also encouraged social-distancing, and closed down indoor places that failed to observe the rules. From an overdispersion and super-spreading point of view, Sweden would not necessarily be classified as among the most lax countries, but nor is it the most strict. It simply doesn’t deserve this oversize place in our debates assessing different strategies.

    Number of new infection is growing in Sweden. No herd immunity in Sweden was achieved. Sweden is introducing harsher countermeasures:

    Faced with the reality of a winter surge, Sweden is finally bringing in some harsher restrictions
    https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-brings-in-regional-measures-cases-surge-2020-11

    Explain how as Covid “deaths” rose, the flu seems to have almost disappeared?

    Countermeasure against covid like social distancing and masking are effective against the flu. This is what Big Pharma does not want you to know that’s why WHO and CDC were dragging their feet on masking. WHO and CDC promotes vaccines instead. The anti masking activists (many of them anti vaxxers) are the useful idiots of Big Pharma.

    Explain how the projections of millions of deaths was off by orders of magnitude?

    Because of lockdowns and other countermeasures. The projections were for the as if scenario as if epidemic was spreading and people were not reacting to it. People always react as they respond to what is happening around them. Often faster than their government. In Czech Republic the grass roots pro mask movement began before government followed.

    • Replies: @Beau Nydle
  43. Smarby says:

    It shows how utterly stupid the presstitutes are that they report that a data entry error that erased Trump’s lead was “corrected” but the lead remained erased!

    How stupid/gullible the American public is for going along with it, more like…

  44. Rahan says:

    Why does a British news service have a “Fact Check Team” to protect an American political party? Is the campaign against red state America organized globally?

    Why did Brit secret service operatives provide the initial impulse of the “Russia collusion” thing?

    You’ve got serious Brit, Israeli, and Saudi interference in the modern US, deflected into “Russian, Chinese, and Iranian interference”. Is this sutainable?

    • Agree: Black Picard
  45. @anonymous

    Biden won’t last six months before he’s declared non compos mentis. But, even before that, a Pig will off a Nig, and then someone will light a match. The marches for “minority equality,” “gay rights” (not the privilege of pursuing happiness), “female anti-reproduction initiatives,” and every other faux cause imaginable will not cease. They can’t. It’s all that the participants in these movements have to justify their existence. Their entire lives are devoted to manufacturing a personal or global crises, and then mobilizing a horde of degenerate, bi-polar, malcontents to rally behind their bogus cries of discrimination and mistreatment.

    As far as the CoYid-20 Panicdemic is concerned… I’m not, in the least bit. There is a 99.9% survival rate for those infected in my age range. Most exhibit slight symptoms or none at all. Of those who have perished, there is a 96% co-morbidity factor; meaning that they died with the virus in their system, but not from it. I am much more worried about the devastation wrought by “The Black Plague,” “The Yellow Fever,” and “The Brown Pestilence” than this weak strain of the Flu. If you’re so worried about it, then you should never leave home again! Or, at least wear a Hazmat suit when you go out. But, STOP trying to force your paranoid fears and reactions on the rest of us who choose to live our lives like Men, instead of hyped-up, hypochondriac Cowards trying to seclude themselves within a sterile cocoon. Wear your mask, hide your fugly face, shield us from your putrid breath, and STFU!

    If anyone on this thread is a moron or an idiot, it is clearly you, with your grammar school level insults and examples. Nothing you posted is anything that hasn’t been repeated thousands of times by every Leftwing Simpleton on the planet. And, repeating LIES, doesn’t make them true. Have you ever had an original thought?

    Fortunately, this site is rife with INDIVIDUALS who aren’t as easily duped and led astray by popular deceptions. And, just for the record, most of us never thought of Donald Turnip as being our Champion. He was merely the least odious candidate available. That is as much of an endorsement as I can give him. But, it is still more than I can say for Schmo Hidin’ and Camel Hair Ass.

    • Agree: By-tor, R2b
  46. Think Next Level. Remember MSM is a manipulative propaganda machine. The elections are rigged and the winner is predetermined. Why the show off slow counts, sudden jumps and inexplicable overtakes which may prove critical in determining who wins? Could they really not manipulate the numbers more smoothly, or do we need to seek another intent?

    Are they leaving clues of fraud on purpose is my concern.. fuel the fires of civil unrest in the hopes of grabbing even more control when things go pear shaped?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  47. Sol says:
    @Begemot

    Now do the (D)s prepping their narrative for the past few months that Trump would steal the election.

    • Replies: @Nuncle
  48. @Pseudonymous1

    Meanwhile, Black Supremacists will be crushed by Brown Supremacists, who, in turn, will be enslaved by Yellow Supremacists. Without Whitey to play referee, pay all the costs, and absorb all the blame, the natural order will restore itself. The goal for White Supremacists is to survive the coming chaos and to secure an existence for White Children. A global network and strong defensive positions will ensure that we will ultimately persevere and regain our place in the World.

    The entire Country can, and will, GO DOWN IN FLAMES! But, don’t worry, I like you. If I see your greasy Carcass is afire, I will spit and piss on you. Perhaps, before then, some Black or Brown Supremacist will knock some sense into you and your inglorious defeat will lead you to support a higher order of civilization as opposed to the wanton barbarism exemplified by the Democrats.

  49. @anonymous

    Trump is a retarded fool who even urged people to inject disinfectant into their bodies.

    Did he? There must be a clip of it somewhere. Show me the way.

  50. Alfred says:
    @Christophe GJ

    Mathematically, it is obvious that these critical postal votes in favour of Biden are bogus. But maybe that is why they stopped teaching real math to most kids a while back?

    • Replies: @Trickster
  51. Whitewolf says:

    US elections are looking distinctly 3rd world at the moment. Biden has a bigger voter turnout than Obama did despite Trump gaining Black and Hispanic support? On what planet is this even remotely credible?

    The guy who’s been hiding in his basement the last few months and speaking(mostly incoherently) to a dozen or so people beats a guy who holds several rallies a day to thousands of supporters. Nothing to see here folks. Just par for the course in the new Banana States of America.

    • Agree: TKK, Thomasina, Sulu
  52. For me, even Trafalgar Group was conservative in their projections for the shy Trump voter in states like Texas, Florida, and Ohio, where they were 3-5% off the mark for Trump support. And Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were all following that pattern before the voting ‘not-pause’ (it was not a stop, they counted a thousand votes here and a thousand there so the MSM could parrot the lie that the voting continued, which it really didn’t – I had to miss a night’s sleep out of frustration, watching the ticker grow ever slower).

    After the pause, the situation flipped PA which was 12.7% for Trump at 75% of the vote counted went to 2.6% for Trump at 89% counted the next day. Now it’s neck and neck. USPS endorsed Biden, and postdating envelopes is not difficult if you managed to run an operation like Russiagate. DNC also has a track record with fraud with both of Bernies runs, so it’s not like they can claim vestal purity.

    They created a system that was specifically grey – no need to allow votes after Nov 3rd, people had weeks, months to send the envelope. And if they were too lazy or slow, well then, too bad, act faster next time. Now instead there is a grey zone where fraud is simple to commit, and hard to disprove.

    It is a simple delegitimisation of the voting process. Another case of the Dems doing exactly what they screeched Trump was doing. So now a peaceful handover has been delegitimised, voting has been delegitimised, the impeachment process has been delegitimised.. the system is cracking at the seams.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  53. Benford’s Law — VERY IMPORTANT FRAUD DETECTION

    All presidential candidates’ vote tallies follow Benford’s Law nationwide except Biden/Harris, indicating likely fraud.

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/288027969/#288027969

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/288025899/#288025899

    • Thanks: ivan
    • Replies: @MarkU
  54. padre says:
    @Christophe GJ

    Do you think, they didn’t alter Trump votes,before they “came in”, if there is a fraud?

    • Replies: @Christophe GJ
  55. Vojkan says:
    @Begemot

    Everything is possible. But the possibility that a lead of ~10k one way turns into a lead of ~150k the other way overnight and with independent oversight forbidden is so statistically improbable that it appears in real life as very close to impossible without some artificial help. What is even more improbable is that similar things happen in different places at the same time.
    I don’t know by heart the probability of a comet hitting the Earth tomorrow but I’m confident that the number of zeros behind the comma is not worlds apart from that of the probability for a fair Biden’s win.

    • Agree: Wally
  56. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Max Payne

    Harris might name Killery her VP, but she will never step down. If Killery wants the job she will have to have Kamala whacked. One more job she can brag about to the Devil when she goes to her just reward.

  57. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Not so fast….. although I do see that you are not denying that Trump’s fanatically loyal supporters are just as likely to be organiseable for fraud as the Dems.

    There will always be at least a bit of fraud as cousin Willy claims to have been a clever boy and got five votes out of his grandma’s nursing home though only two of them could remember their names. Trivia, of course, like the anecdotes of the odd postal worker.

    Let me illustrate why I don’t get excited with suspicion about errors that, at first sight, are hard to believe accidental. Many years ago, a friend, who eventually won his seat by about 800 votes in 110,000 was sent into a panic on the morning after the first evening’s counting by his electorate chairman ringing to say that the victory that owned assured was now not on given the latest figures from one of the four central counting places corresponding to four electoral divisions within the larger one. I rushed off to start scrutineerring for my friend. The petty bureaucrats were dim and it took several days to discover the double counting that had occurred from voting booths in areas that didn’t vote for my friend. It had occurred because the senior education department bureaucrat in charge at the relevant polling station throughout the Saturday’s voting and till counting finished at about 11 pm had sent the results in to the overall centre for the vote count and then gone home for the night without explaining the situation to the inexperienced substitute who replaced him when he had to fly out to a conference in Canada on the Sunday morning. Hence the same figures were sent in twice and it was only when there were enough for me to get it through thick skulls that the double counting was conceded.

    In the category of remembering to look for the surprising that one wouldn’t have thought of I also cite the most recent article here in UR by Eric Striker…

    *** *** ***

    I have long regarded Paul Craig Roberts as belonging to the tinfoil hat brigade so I am not surprised that only one of his four links even requires a second look. Not the mad general, but the (alleged) sudden increase in votes only for Biden, not for Trump. However, the potential problem is such an obvious one that even Trump would have zeroed in on it and had a whole choir led by him singing it out a thousand times.

    As with suggested conspiracies like the more elaborate 9/11 ones it makes sense to spell out what would have to have been the plan.

    To start with you would see real concentration on about 10 states and engage in a lot of planning to cope with different local laws and conditions for voting. In the end the only big problem would be some huge additions of votes that would still appear valid on a recount. I invite any knowledgeable elaboration. I find it difficult to see how large scale voting fraud could occur without extreme risk, indeed probability, of being sprung. (OK I don’t know what was done in 1960 or how it might still be done. But that was supposedly just Illinois I think).

    Finally, if it is not beneath the intellectual dignity of our host, Ron Unz, to squash PCR’s amateur fantasies about hacking, would he please deal with the mad general’s nonsense.

  58. anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @the grand wazoo

    Whoever calls the shots in Washington didn’t think it necessary for Juan Guaido to win any election to become president. Let’s be consistent: why should Trump? Biden must go! Offer him a deal he can’t refuse.

  59. Conspiracy Theories + Cope.

    • Replies: @Wally
  60. @anonymous

    Looks an awful lot like 1884 …

    Mail-in ballots were part a of a plot to deny Lincoln reelection in 1884.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/08/22/mail-in-voting-civil-war-election-conspiracy-lincoln/

    • Replies: @Polemos
    , @Tommy Thompson
  61. dually says:

    The election hasn’t been “stolen”. Trump already won. Federal law stipulates that the votes must be counted by Nov. 4

  62. Evidence Mounts of a Stolen Election

    Really? Does every sore loser always have to go and claim election fraud. Such claims need solid and material proof, not saying their is a certain electronic program out there. Most states have worked hard to secure their votes against manipulation, though a lot more needs to be done.

    Most polls gave Biden a bigger voter margin than he achieved and they are are rarely wrong when the polls are summed and averaged.

    Listening to his speech last night, it came across as an adolescent with an overtly Narcissistic and fully Self Centered character that has now been put on full display. Most Republicans ran for cover. Sorry, but maybe PCR should have done the same rather than jump with DT into his dark pit of self-delusion. Better for PCR to have not wasted his integrity ammo on such a ridiculous and fraudulent claim.

    Sorry, but Trump has probably lost fairly and squarely. White Americans, whether Working or Middle Class, do not have more rights than others in the selection of any political leader or national President. Other views exist and must be accounted for and debated and integrated into the windstorm of politics.

    Just get over it, and focus on keep the new President, whoever the maybe, that he act as a loyal America First and Constitution First President.

  63. yurivku says:

    For Biden and Trump are the slightly different kind of shit – for methe best result is the most possible chaos which is seemed to exist.

    Please not stop rioting and looting. Thank you.

  64. GMC says:

    This time – the Russians didn’t commit US Election fraud or tampering – well, at least they haven’t been accused – yet. lol So, we are now looking at members of the Democratic party and members of the USGov. – again. And the evidence looks pretty good and pretty damned easy to see. Two or three swing states and a stupid consecutive drop of hundreds of thousands of votes for only one party at least. Will they get away with it again ? Probably.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @VinnyVette
  65. GMC says:
    @Christophe GJ

    The difference, is that they blamed Russia and Russia payed a heavy price for those lies. Will the perpetraitors that are American citizens, get away with it, or should they pay 10Xs more than – what Russia had to pay – without even a trial ? Are the American citizens going to be the continuous Huckleberries – for the USG corruption ? Or they going to finally Cowboy up and do something….

    • Agree: Black Picard
  66. Richard B says:
    @Begemot

    Disclaimer: I’m not Right or Left, didn’t vote for Trump, and have no interest in White Knighting for a billionaire chubster who tweets too much. Having said that, though the general public is clearly weak and stuipd, the hostile elite and their proxies (and online trolls) are insane and evil. They’re also not as smart as they think they are. They’re operating entirely out of The Dark Triad of The Lust for Power, Narcissism, and Psychopathology. The best they’ll ever manage is a Pyrrhic Victory.

    Having said that, their “ideas” are worth exposing and attacking:

    For months Trump and his people have been claiming that mail-in ballots will be corrupt, bogus, unreliable.

    Because mail-in-ballots are corrupt, bogus, and unreliable.

    For months Trumps and his people have been claiming that the polls showing Biden having a lead over Trump are wrong, that they are actually lying.

    Because they are lying. They’ve done nothing but lie about Trump since even before he took office. Ever since then they’ve been determined to destroy him and his base by any means necessary, including and especially lying.

    One of the techniques of the color revolutions carried out by the US government abroad has been to put forth claims prior to an election that will serve to deligitimize the outcome, unless the desired candidate wins.

    One of the techniques of the color revolutions carried out by the US government (all of whom are anti-Trump) has been to put forth multiple claims in the form of pretzel logic so as to befuddle, confuse and ultimately demoralize the public, as well as to deliberately delegitimize the outcome of the election, so as to help create a revolutionary atmosphere, thereby validating their revolution so that id doesn’t look like the coup that it is.

    But above all, governments, like that run by the hostile elite who are intersted in imposing a top-down authoritarian regime that will last indefinitely, routinely accuse the accuser, victim-blame, and project on their target exactly what it is they are doing.

    And now we’re back to The Dark Triad.

    P.S. Begemot gave an excellent demonstration of the circular reasoning and tautalogical assumptions common among online trolls. Of course, he thought he was doing something else.

  67. Miro23 says:

    It is amusing to watch the press prostitutes try to cover-up vote fraud for the Democrats. Here is an example from the bought-and-paid-for BBC whose “Reality Check Team” has undertaken to “fact check” the “rumor” of a 138,000 sudden ballot dump for Biden in Michigan during the early hours of morning when no one was watching: https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

    The BBC claims this was a “data entry error” that was corrected. The “data entry error” was not corrected, if it was, until it became an issue. How does the BBC know that the sudden jump in votes for Biden wasn’t fraud that when exposed was explained away by crooked officials as a “data entry error.”

    I would guess that we’ll hear a lot more about all of this. Trump supporters aren’t going to wait to come forward with evidence. Also, voting in a democracy is so important that every avenue for fraud needs to be shut down.

    The motive for fraud is always going to be there so digitalization was a vastly stupid thing to do. That 138.000 votes can appear/disappear is grounds for suspending the whole failed operation. Paper ballots with voters visiting voting booths in person and counting by hand is relatively safe. And it’s easier to do a recount than go to the Supreme Court.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @ivan
  68. Syd Walker says: • Website

    “How can such an unattractive party whose elected officials refused to enforce law and order win the presidential election?

    “The answer is fraud.”

    That’s possible, but this inflammatory article completely fails to prove the case.

    Equally plausible is a rather obvious explanation that Paul Craig Roberts deftly avoids mentioning: Trump is a crude, narcissistic and deeply unattractive plutocrat who may have established a cult-like following but who’s disliked by a majority of Americans (along with his billionaire-friendly economic policies). Among other possible factors are the fact that Trump’s environmental policies are so appalling they’d embarrass Richard Nixon and his America-alone approach to global politics is puerile and seen to be such by a majority of Americans?

    But all these are speculations and opinion – like Paul Craig Robert’s article,

    What’s deeply disturbing to me is that a commentator I’ve long respected for his courage over issues such as 9/11 has now seemingly lost the plot. Yes, the Democratic leadership are a bodgy lot – but so are the Republicans, FFS! Both sides of the USA’s major party duopoly seem beholden to the Military Industrial Complex and Zionist Lobby. Neither are treating the environmental crisis with anything like the requisite urgency.

    The electoral system in the USA – fragmented as it is into a myriad of local systems, each of differing reliability and fairness – is an international joke. The nation that purports to export democracy doesn’t have a grown-up democracy at home. Tulsi Gabbard’s proposed legislation on electoral reform would have largely fixed that problem, but like so much else that’s sane in the USA it barely got a mention in mainstream discourse.

    So here we are.. with a electoral system that hasn’t been fit for purpose for decades (if ever?). and two unpleasant, untrustworthy leadership options. We need to recognise we’re knee deep in mire and keep our heads high. The last thing we should think of doing is slinging mud at each other, like opposing tribes each hollering for their own preferred Big Chief.

    This tribalistic, one-eyed, pro-Trump article by Paul Craig Roberts may be the worst he’s ever written. I hope he recovers soon.

  69. And meanwhile, in a faraway country known as China, a man by the name of Xi Jinping and his friends are pummelling their desks while blue in the face with laughter…

    • Replies: @haha
  70. For the missing down-ticket wins, the leftists have a ready excuse in the neocon “never trumpers” who have been whining for four years.

  71. Miro23 says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Like I said, it’s nothing to do with me – it’s your country, so go spastic. I do have to wonder, though, are people really that dumb that they can’t see what’s happening – or are they choosing not to see it, or are they so bloody-minded that they are willingly complicit or otherwise just don’t care?

    It’s not my country either, and I would guess that it’s a combination of all these factors. Some really are dumb and believe the MSM propaganda. Some choose not to see, since their jobs/social relations depend on it. Some are complicit, since being (or acting) woke gets them ahead. Others are lazy and don’t care (plenty).

    There’s also the aspect that people who want to do something have no framework at all in which to do it. Contrast with woke activists who have a multitude of well funded organizations/activities on offer.

  72. and this was the country that accused Venezuelan election for being fraudulent !

    • Agree: ivan
    • LOL: Sulu
  73. There are plenty of people exposing shitlib criminals but no one arresting them.

    (((globohomo))) probably struck a deal with Trump, promising not to go after Trump Family Inc. in exchange for a few token tweets of resistance before he slinks off to create “Trump TV.” (For betraying us and surrendering I hope they do lock him up.)

    Even if not, Orange Bluster has a history of never using the lawful powers of the presidency to their full potential.

    * Weak-ass “muslim ban” which wasn’t

    * Shitty rebuilt fence rather than wall

    * No mass deportations

    * Had the gall to tweet he would find a way to keep the illegals if the Supreme Joke ruled DACA illegal (which it is)

    * Israel First

    Recucklicans hate Trump even more than commiecrats. They are classic cowards, it’s their role in the Uniparty. We have no one, and in a sense never did.

    Secession is no longer an amusing meme. It cannot be worse than what globohomo has planned for you and yours.

    McDonald’s Grimace voice: “Duhhhh, secession is illegal!”

    So is rigging an election.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  74. From where does the Republican establishment impotence come? Not out patriotism as you have suggested but from fear of losing their privileges emanating from Jewish controlled finance…

    Does the Black/Tamil Furry hate Whites and is it why blacks were locked up for minor possession of marijuana under her attorney generalship of California? No! But because she gets her orders from her Jewish husband on up…

    And who gave the right to the Guardian and BBC the right to patrol the shores of American polity? You guessed it: Jews!

    Can you tell who is the real adversary and threat to the red America?

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @annamaria
  75. Jake says:
    @Christophe GJ

    The Deep State rigged the 2016 Democrat primary race for Hillary. It then rigged the 2016 general election for Hillary, but not enough to win. This time the Deep State counted better.

    The billionaires behind the scenes calling shots for the Anglo-Zionist Empire are an evil group, an evil class, as are their well paid loyal servants.

  76. Tom Welsh says:
    @Max Payne

    “We can all watch it on TV during lock down”.

    Well, we can watch the first 20 minutes or so. Then the Russian and Chinese missiles will arrive and we will never watch anything again.

    • Replies: @bruce county
  77. Fred777 says:
    @anonymous

    Whatever Trump’s faults may be, he is far less dangerous than Bolshevik scum like yourself. Congratulations moron, as Jack warned, your ilk made peaceful revolution impossible.

  78. Jake says:
    @God's Fool

    It’s not that simple, because it is much older. The Republican Party rode to power in 1860 with a coalition like today’s Democrats: the Politically Correct, the social and cultural and religious Liberals, and Wall Street. That original Republican party despised the vast majority of whites in America, which was summed in the slogan of things they opposed to the death: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion: meaning, non-Elite whites they saw as Trash, Catholics, and Southerners.

    What you see today as impotence is a large segment of the Republican Party power brokers who are original Republicans at heart. So they despise the Deplorables just like Hillary despises the Deplorables. Hillary’s parents, like Obama’s white grandparents, were that kind of original Republican. George Will was that kind of Republican.

    Jews did not invent that. They simply latched onto it and then became its major financial backer by the ned of the Reagan years.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @God's Fool
  79. eggplant says:

    A senile old party hack who couldn’t muster 100 people at a rally, along with a hideously insincere veep who even the democrats despised in the primaries suddenly gets 70 million votes?
    I actually feel sorry for people who believe this fiction – as well as despising them.
    It’s invariably the same morons who spent the last 4 years believing every ludicrous piece of drip-drip information about “the Russians”.

    • Agree: TKK, annamaria
  80. Dumbo says:

    If you can fraud a FREAKING GLOBAL “PANDEMIC”, then what’s a presidential election?

    They are laughing at our faces at this point, expect Transgender Global Order to be instituted soon.

    Elections won’t take us out of it.

    There will be war.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  81. Greg Bacon says: • Website
    @anonymous

    The real winner of this fraud will be Israel. I bet anudda 9/11 false flag is already in the making, with the lying fraudsters of the MSM ready to blame Iran so President Harris can fulfill her campaign pledge to attack Iran for the glory of Apartheid Israel.

    With FAKEBOOK & Twitter now deleting anyone pointing out election fraud to help grease the way for the Dems to steal the WH.

    Military Ballots Found in the Trash in PA, All Were Trump Votes

    https://trends.gab.com/item/5fa3fe86e3cce63224c522d2

    Temporary contractor threw Trump mail-in ballots in trash, Pennsylvania county officials say

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/temporary-contractor-threw-trump-mail-ballots-trash-pennsylvania/story?id=73251533

    Arizona Voters File Suit to Restore Their Ballots Cancelled Over Sharpies

    https://trends.gab.com/item/5fa3ed5cd4322adc31c977f4

    If that’s not enough, there’s this tidbit!

    Joe Biden Says Democrats Created ‘The Most Extensive And Inclusive Voter Fraud Organization’ In American History

  82. @GMC

    Well if you consider the Biden / Russia link… Some Russian money finding it’s way to the Biden campaign would not be out of the question would it?

    • Replies: @GMC
  83. Ben Gunn says:

    Wow! I tried to post this on Facebook- “it is against our policy to allow spam” showing Unz as spam.

    • Replies: @TKK
    , @annamaria
  84. Polemos says:
    @Hiram of Tyre

    You ought to have realized you made a typo, friend.

    Lincoln died when and how?

    • Thanks: Hiram of Tyre
  85. Dr. Charles Fhandrich [AKA "Anonymous"] says:

    There is a word that Dr. Roberts has repeatedly used to describe Americans–insouciance. I first came across it when a writer described how Elvis Presley styled the song “Hard Headed Woman.” The word insouciance for those who never came across it means–an utterly free and unconcerned attitude towards some topic. That’s how millions of Americans are towards their nation, unconcerned and all too frequently so about the most important things that will affect them politically. How rational people can accept the utter CRAP, that the democratic party leadership has burdened them with in the last fifty or so years is mindboggling and can only be explained by Dr. Roberts word insouciance, a word that has its place in human life but shouldn’t have where the most serious matters are concerned. By the way, the only way I could get my myself through was to post anonymously because my usual name Dr. Charles Fhandrich does not get accepted for some reason though I’ve complained about it.

  86. anastasia says:

    What can law-abiding people do when thugs take over. They did it in France; they did it in Russia. Civilized law-abiding people closed their shutters and hid in their homes. That is what was done in the past and that is what will be done now. Unless the military makes a move, we can do nothing, and the military which is now full of transgenders and homosexuals, will not make that move. The only move they will make is against us. This did not happen yesterday. It happened a long time ago.

    • Replies: @Friend
  87. Dr. Charles Fhandrich [AKA "Anonymous"] says:
    @Greg Bacon

    He’s so idiotic, criminally minded, or both, that he often can’t even discern how he gives away his idiotic and criminal nature.

  88. sally says:
    @Christophe GJ

    Republicans are too establishment to effectively fight back. They fear that exposing and resisting a stolen election would discredit American democracy. In effect, patriotism makes them impotent.

    Its trump’s fault, he knew or should have known the vote outcome was controlled by his opponents.. THE 7 out of 9 layers say clearly Private interest are in complete control of the USA and by and through the USA and Google each every breathing human in USA governed America is in the hand of those who are not part of the government.

    Next There is no and has not been democracy in American since 1787 when the Constitution replaced the Articles Government. No one can vote for the President or the VP, so what’s the big deal?

    The private interest are going to put into power, (no matter the office, means or method) whomever they want, Americans can just be damned.. if chickenshit Americans don’t like it <=the 30 calibre media will blast them until they cannot get a job and no one will have anything to do with them. . Cause it ain't the Republicans that are too establishment to effectively fight back, its the entire lot of sissy foot 340,000,000 Americans <=Americans lost their freedom and this election in 1787.. during the 2nd revolution in which the British corporations and Aristocracy reestablished their control over America.. Don't forget the first president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was John Hanson. 1781.

    • Replies: @pecosbill
    , @Christophe GJ
  89. G J T says:
    @Bro43rd

    “Democracy” is a polite way of saying Jewish power.

  90. Wally says:
    @Christophe GJ

    Just a few 2016 examples:

    Evidence of Detroit Voter Fraud, Too Many Votes in 37% of Precincts
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-g&#8230;

    Michigan Recount Exposes Clinton Electoral Fraud: Half of Detroit Votes Show Signs of Tampering
    Votes in Hillary-heavy Detroit may have been counted up to 6 times

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/20&#8230;
    and:

    Voter integrity groups True the Vote and Vote Fraud.org who both ran voter rolls against results and both came to the conclusion that at least 3 million illegals voted in THIS election.

    Moreover, Pew Research (hardly a conservative outfit) and Old Dominion U have had studies since 2012 that show the percentage of illegals that vote is over 22%. CONSERVATIVE studies from numerous groups incuding Harvard claim there are at least 10 million to 15 million illegal immigrants reside in the US. ODU has consistently found 80% go to the DEM ticket meaning that conservatively, 1.8 million voted for Hillary. If you take TTV and VForg numbers – that means 2.4 million voted for Hillary – more than her winning margin.

    This doesn’t even account for the other 1.8 million of dead people who are on the voter rolls or – as we saw in the Jill Stein recount – over 35% of the precincts in Detroit showed enormous vote fraud. In Las Vegas in one county 9200 REGISTERED VOTERS had mail returned for lack of correct address – yet 92% voted in the election.
    http://www.newsmaxtv.vegas/huuuge-nevada-voter-fraud-uncovered-worse-than-acorn/

  91. Realist says:

    This on again…off again comment section is bullshit.

    • LOL: Katrinka
  92. Wally says:
    @Supply and Demand

    Except that conspiracies are proven everyday in courts worldwide.

    • LOL: TKK, ivan
    • Replies: @Astaroth
  93. United States Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney explains a special software developed by the National Security Agency that can be used to alter vote counts in elections.

    Isn’t it a bit ironic that software developed to steal elections in other countries is now being used to steal one in America. You dance with the Devil long enough, you eventually get pitch “forked” yourself. Sit back and enjoy the shit show folks, as always we lose and they win.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  94. anarchyst says:
    @Liza

    According to a study the esteemed “Dr.” Fauci conducted approximately 4 years ago,the major cause of deaths during the “1918 flu pandemic” was bacterial pneumonia, NOT influenza.

    The common denominator was the (forced) wearing of masks.

    Sound familiar?

    Look for an uptick in respiratory illnesses in the coming months due to mask-wearing.

    Rebreathing your own exhalations is not good for you…

    The study is available on the internet…

    • Agree: By-tor
    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Wade
    , @Polemos
  95. anarchyst says:

    It ain’t over yet…
    The Supreme Court could step in and invalidate ALL votes in the areas where cheating was taking place. The court could order all votes received after the deadline and those with questionable origins to be invalidated.
    The governors and mayors of the “several states” could be arrested and charged with fraud, malfeasance of office and other criminal acts regarding the oath of office that they all took.
    Will it happen??
    Only time will tell.
    There is precedence for the Supreme Court to make final decisions as to voting irregularities. The Florida “hanging chad” case comes to mind.

  96. Raoul says:

    There’s a video interview with Dr. Steve Pieczenik on Youtube right now. I expect it will be taken down. It’s an Alex Jones video with Banned.video stamped on it, so it should be there. On Youtube it’s called:

    EXTREMELY IMPORTANT – TRUMP PLANNED THIS WHOLE THING – HE WON THE ELECTION!

    In the video Pieczenik says that what we’re seeing now (the theft of the election) is being allowed by Trump and the Republicans so that the Dems show their hand. As Sun Tzu says in The Art of War, you let your enemies make their mistakes before you move in for the kill.

    Pieczenik says that ballots were marked using sophisticated watermarking, and they’ll be easy to track later. I think he’s talking about mail-in ballots, since the Feds wouldn’t have had time or access to do that state by state. But the mail-in ballots could have been marked. And the razor-thin cheating victories we’re seeing now will be based on the mail-in count. Apparently Pieczenik is saying that in the recounts Trump will gain the states that were stolen from him.

    Pieczenik is former CIA so you can take him at his word or not. But this would be sublime if true. An explosive sting operation that saves the American Republic.

    • Disagree: ivan
    • Replies: @Friend
    , @Wade
  97. @vot tak

    It’s a paper ballot that is a document that can be actually checked in the real world. This kills their ability to manipulate the vote through diebold type electronic vote count fraud.

    Not really. It just means they have to concentrate their manipulation activities on the counting stage of the process, which is done by programmable machines not that different in principle from the Diebold type. Reports are even coming in of poll watchers discovering ethernet cables attached to these machines. Quite illegal of course, but probably rationalized by the perceived need to placate those BLM mobs and get rid of Orange Man Bad.

    It’s not a coincidence, I think, that all the fraud is occurring in Dem-run states.

    • Troll: vot tak
  98. sally says:
    @Just another serf

    I just finished the book entitled “Bed Time Politics” by Al Capone. He explained seduction outperforms leg-breaking, live disposals in deep seas, and live burials in concrete foundations when it comes to buying off city halls and getting unpopular programs through conservative political processes.

    Al wrote most of his ideas came from “Bedtime Politics” a memo-graph by Ganges Khan, I cannot find a copy of it on Amazon..

  99. Raoul says:

    The video I mentioned above is indeed on Banned.video. The title is:

    Intelligence Insider: President Trump Setup Democrats In “Sting Operation” To Catch Them Stealing Election!

    https://banned.video/watch?id=5fa480cc65f2d419a08b54e2

  100. @Wizard of Oz

    Wiz, you’re under a serious misapprehension about hacking.

    Even as much of America grinds to a halt, coronavirus has yet to derail the date of the 2020 election. Which introduces a perhaps underestimated terror, as explained in one of the more deceptively scary documentaries to drop in recent weeks: the vulnerable voting machine. That seemingly benign piece of equipment – the hardware of American democracy – is, as several experts explain in HBO’s Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America’s Elections, nothing more than an obsolete computer.

    This is from The Guardian, of all places.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/mar/26/kill-chain-hbo-election-hacking-documentary

    The process of voting in the United States is idiosyncratic and often chaotic, but no matter how each polling station is managed, the vast majority rely on electronic machines produced by three companies with removable hardware such as USB flash drives or memory cards.

    If you read the article carefully, you realise it is much easier to alter voting figures by direct tampering rather than remote hacking ( which takes much longer, even if successful ).

    Hursti, who is originally from Finland, has been studying weaknesses in the American election system for more than 15 years. He first appeared on HBO in 2006, in Teale’s documentary Hacking Democracy; in a clip replayed in Kill Chain, a young and somewhat smug Hursti shocks the supervisor of elections in Leon county, Florida, when he easily hacks the county’s Diebold voting machine with just a tampered memory card.
    until recently, there were no cybersecurity experts on staff at the machines’ manufacturers, an oversight Teale called “mind-blowing”.

    So it would seem quite feasible for agents of the Deep State, DNC or whoever to alter the voting figures by tampering with the machines either in the factories, in transit or at the polling atations.
    Now take that tinfoil hat off Dr Roberts, there’s a good fellow. I wouldn’t want you being done for elder abuse !

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  101. Realist says:
    @Beavertales

    The elections will have to be run again.

    That’s not going to happen.

  102. @nsa

    You should watch the 7 min video interview in the top link. That general knew beforehand exactly how it was going to play-out and by what means. That will answer some things for you.

    • Agree: GazaPlanet
  103. Realist says:

    Evidence Mounts of a Stolen Election

    Thanks Captain Obvious…what’s the solution?

  104. Sirius says:

    The whole debate about “real democracy” is moot. You want a real democratic vote? Then you need proportional representation. A clear one person, one vote and get rid of the Electoral College once and for all. Not only there but in the Congress as well and having a system that isn’t rigged against 3rd parties, which can never emerge as alternatives to the current duopoly under the present conditions.

    And all this nonsense about the Democrats rigging the vote is only true in that they rigged it against Bernie Sanders, or more accurately manipulated and spun the results in their own primaries. The party bosses consistently block the left wing of the party. They froze Bernie out and I can almost guarantee you he will play no role in a Biden administration.

    John Kasich has a better chance at an appointment and he’s a Republican. Ever notice how many Republicans get appointed to Democratic administrations? And key roles too. Remember William Cohen? Robert Gates anyone?

    Everyone here who thinks the Democrats are a left party has been drinking the Kool-Aid for too long and listening too much to Trump’s myth-making. Biden a leftie? He’s more pro-war and “defense” spending than Trump is, and was a key proponent for the Iraq war while in the Senate. He’s probably even more pro-interventionist than Hillary.

    The Dems are basically to the right of where Richard Nixon was (remember him? He approved the EPA among other “left-wing” causes). The rank and file Dems may want a left party, but they have a party establishment that is solidly right-wing when it comes to war policies, endless money for Wall Street and the bankers, and even the environmental policies are pretty big business-oriented, though maybe not totally environment-destroying like Trump’s are.

    The only “left” arguments are the social issues (like transgender restrooms–is there anything more trivial than that for a national debate?), a 50-year debate about abortion rights which seems never-ending, all of which are all meant to keep you all distracted from where all the big money is going and the fact that the oligarchs keep getting richer and more powerful and everyone else is stagnant or poorer and more powerless.

    After all, where is all that “stimulus” money going? $2-6 trillion? How can anyone even follow that phenomenal amount of money with all these other distractions? That’s where the vast majority of Americans are getting screwed and have barely a clue about it.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  105. @Tommy Thompson

    One does wonder how a person makes it through life with “thinking” like that. ^^^

    P.S. Most polls are garbage and vastly wrong. They are used as manipulation tools.

  106. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:

    Want to fight back?

    If you are in the military, resign at the first opportunity. White men: Don’t sign up for the military.

    That is the one act thst we can do that will get their attention.

    • Agree: Harold Smith, Katrinka
    • Disagree: Catdog
  107. Hacienda says:

    How do you explain away the polls that showed Biden ahead 7-8 points nationally?
    Biden leading Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, even Georgia right up to the election?

    I have an idea that the Dems underperformed because of their emphasis on mail-in, stronger belief in the dangers of Covid (so not going out to vote on election day).

    The grifter-in-chief is gaslighting the polls. Doh!

  108. @Jake

    The answer to your reluctance to squarely point to the culprits is to be found right in your statement:

    “Jews did not invent that. They simply latched onto it and then became its major financial backer by the ned of the Reagan years.”

    Financial incentive or disincentive makes a very powerful weapon to check… it’s a whip to control the disobedient!

  109. This is so informative that I tried to share it on Facebook, something I very rarely do. However, my posting was blocked on the grounds that “other users have found this content abusive”. I still posted a brief comment on the article for interested people to look for it (without an unz.com link, which might not have passed muster).

    • Thanks: GMC
  110. @MaxyBoy

    There is no mega death virus other than the seasonal common cold so your argument falls flat on it’s face out of the box.

    His argument explains the election results we’ve seen; whether or not Covid-19 exists is irrelevant.

    Thank God for Trump calling out this bull shit.

    Trump was hospitalized and treated for Covid-19 (with modalities not generally available to the average person); that’s a funny way of “calling out this bull shit.”

    • Replies: @cylindrical crown
  111. @nsa

    All people, save the hardest of souls, will reject the “possibility” of your proposition. They will not pull the trigger of a loaded question pointed straight at their own head. These voting consoles were not aimlessly named. Nixon did not simply tell us to get out of Saigon by April 29, 1975 or die like fools. No, he gave us there a vote and we elected our own outcome. He called it peace with dignity.

    Diebold Elections Systems is not only a name, it’s a way of life.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions

  112. eD says:

    Ron Unz has a very liberal (in the old fashioned sense of the word) comments policy which I agree with, but like anything there are costs to it, and one of them is that some of his commentators consistently get brigaded. Its easy to see why the PCR posts usually don’t allow comments.

  113. Realist says:

    As I have written before on UNZ…by the end of this year the country we grew up in will no longer exist. The Deep State is making it’s stand.

  114. @Anon

    That would be a great start to taking America and our government back again.

    Further acts of patriotism that would REALLY get their attention would be if everyone working in any capacity that supports the war machine would resign, e.g., people working on the assembly line at places like Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, General Atomics, etc., making the missiles, drones and bombs that the empire or its proxies use to mass-murder people in far away places.

  115. In my area the negro voted on average 95% for the Biden/Kamala ticket. Trump pandering to the Negro did not work.

    This country is in serious trouble. The Socialists/Communists control all the major cities. The country side is mostly White people who vote Republican. There will be conflict one way or another.

    I’m still waiting for Affirmative Action to be outlawed which is basically discrimination against White people.

  116. Friend says:

    This is serious. Support America. It is the last bastion of freedom in the world. Remain vigilant. Get sic months water and food supply. Think grains, legumes, water. Get ammo and arms while you can.

    What you can do: Truckers, stop delivering to commie-supporting businesses. Plumbers stop repairing commie houses. Food service workers stop delivering to commies supporters.

  117. MarkU says:
    @Pure Coincidence

    Interesting but probably a little too esoteric to have any impact on popular perception.

  118. This “election” showed to the whole world that much hyped American democracy is a sham, no more than a blatant lie. What is happening in several states now isn’t new: the same things happened in FL in 2000, or in IL in 1960, etc. But in 2020 it’s so obvious, that only paid trolls, madmen, or individuals with severe TDS can deny it.

    “If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it” (often attributed to Mark Twain).

    “It does not matter how they vote, what matters is who counts the votes” (often attributed to Stalin).

    On the plus side: the crudeness and ham-handedness of fraud means that Dem fraudsters are not experienced, just rank amateurs.

    On the downside: we will likely have Mugabe-in-chief (or Alzheimer-in-chief, if you prefer) for president, like a banana republic.

    • Agree: Black Picard
    • Replies: @Escher
  119. Friend says:
    @Raoul

    Let see if the holds true. I was hoping for something like this.

  120. Friend says:
    @anastasia

    America is different from Europe. Americans believe in freedom. Even the dems believe in freedom. They just also believe in goverment support. When the beast shows its colors, they will join us. American will fight for freedom if they have to.

  121. Greg S. says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    We have the winning comment right here. Project Veritas caught them at this game. A high level Democrat operative goes around urban areas where traditionally nobody votes and harvests all of the mail-in ballots in exchange for small cash bribes, favours, or just because “orange man bad.” Just sign right there and I will do the rest, have a nice day.

    I think the people who believe the Dems simply “manufactured votes” in some printing press, or believe in the “watermarked votes will catch them all conspiracy” are both stupid and delusional.

    Not saying there isn’t fraud though: the main fraud is two things: the harvesting of the mail in ballots, then allowing the states to keep counting them as they trickle in via the mail for days on end until the desired outcome is achieved.

  122. anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    Col. Cassad points out that five national television networks censored an address of the sitting US president and contradicted his censored claims.

    CIA has selected a new puppet ruler for you. Any questions?

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
    , @Liza
  123. @Justvisiting

    Biden’s Alzheimers is getting worse by the day, so if he is forced to wait until next June to give his inaugural address, it will be completely mangled gibberish and he will audibly Nadler himself halfway through.

    Still, we can count on the MSM to laud him as the reincarnation of Jefferson, Lincoln and Aristotle.

  124. @Wizard of Oz

    I find it difficult to see how large scale voting fraud could occur without extreme risk, indeed probability, of being sprung.

    And you think extreme risk of being caught has ever stopped a determined perp before? LOL. You must be a probation counselor.

    you would see real concentration on about 10 states and engage in a lot of planning to cope with different local laws and conditions for voting.

    The number 10 seems just about right. Obviously you would need to focus on friendly states or cities with corrupt or corruptible governors, judges and AGs. Definitely right about the planning, though. Do you think four years of it would suffice?

    The planning would clearly cost quite a lot as well. How about having your number two crackhead son negotiate a billion dollar infusion of capital from the spy chief of a foreign nation with a financial interest in your success? At least you could charge the Air Force 2 flight to the public purse.

    If the billion dollars doesn’t seem enough, you could put your best minds together to come up with a major national crisis with lots of protests, riots and mayhem, and funnel donations to the protestors into the back door of your campaign.

    Now no campaign in history would ever come up with this next idea, but maybe you could even cut down on those draining but very normal campaign costs of flying around this vast country by hiding in your basement.

  125. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s time to rename the DNC the EJM, the End Justifies Means party. Thanks to the crooked EJMs running this party and their colluding MSM, we are now officially a third world country that can’t even run a legitimate election. America has no moral high ground to stand on when we say “totalitarian” countries like Iran or China do not have legitimate governments (but Saudi Arabia does right?). We’ve become Israel. Every election is fraud ridden. What a coincidence, the same people run both countries.

    Trump cannot concede. This must go to the Supreme Court and be thoroughly investigated. All the swing states are highly suspect at this point. WI, MI, PA, GA, NC, AZ, NV altogether account for 107 Electoral Votes. All recounts must be done under observation of Poll Watchers, and every mail in ballot should be verified for legitimacy of voter.

    Never Give Up, Never Surrender!, that was Trump’s motto. Fight this to the bitter end!

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
    • Replies: @yurivku
  126. haha says:
    @Onan the Barbarian

    I don’t think anybody anywhere is “pummelling their desks while blue in the face with laughter…”. The descent of the US into an unpredictable, ungovernable, oligarchy backed-up by intelligence agencies and their media is a big cause for concern for anyone who wants a peaceful world.

    A good thing may be that the US, led by a President of dubious legitimacy, will find it very hard to talk of “democracy” to a world that it seeks to dominate. The bad thing may be that the US state will now will be – and perceived to be – very unpredictable and unbelievable and may, therefore, undertake wild risks in military confrontations abroad. Unfortunately, while it may be easy to hack elections and control the narrative at home, geopolitical misadventures abroad can neither be hacked nor controlled. They will create facts that will not lend themselves to “fact-checking”. That is the real worry in terms of geopolitical terms. As for domestic worries – let me not even get started!

  127. GMC says:
    @VinnyVette

    Well V V – you have a valid point- some Russians do bet on the Horses , but these two presidential horses are ready for the glue factory. A smart Russian oligarch would bet on Bidens main man – Obama – he and the Clinton Cartel are the Democratic party and beyond. Trump is Russian/jew mafia crime familia – with your name – you probably understand more than I about that. A couple months and we have a new year – and the US will have more challenges.

  128. BaronAsh says:

    I would like to see a more in-depth analysis of the block-chain watermarked ballot story. If true, then this is indeed a sting operation. But I do not necessarily trust the source of that story.

    • Replies: @Carlos22
    , @Catdog
  129. Have The Globalists and Their New World Order Finally Succeeded Against Donald J. Trump? By Stephen J. Gray

    [MORE]

    “If 2016 taught us anything, it is that if the establishment’s hegemony is imperiled, it will come together in ferocious solidarity — for the preservation of their perks, privileges and power. All the elements of that establishment — corporate, cultural, political, media — are today issuing an ultimatum to Middle America: Trump is unacceptable.” Patrick J. Buchanan, August 12, 2016, The American Conservative. http://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/yes-the-system-is-rigged/

    President Donald J. Trump has been a target ever since he was elected By the establishment, the media, the tech giants and all the well connected For four years and more, this man has been attacked and lied about daily Assassination by words, are used on him hourly, in every T.V and news media unfairly

    Almost half of the American voters, voted for him in their 2020 election Yet, the media in America, Canada, and other countries brayed their objections The pollsters also showed their bias by publishing daily fake news polls And mail in ballots and COVID-19 were used to scare and achieve their goals

    Donald J. Trump is the only president to raise objections to the “Trans Pacific Partnership” And he also criticized the “Globalists” as well, while campaigning against any membership He loves his country, and refused to capitulate to the evil in the political establishment He defended his country’s sovereignty, against treasonous and treacherous movements

    He stood up for the protection of the innocent pre-born child in the womb While other depraved politicians supported this killing in abortion rooms He spoke out about the looting and rioting, in so-called “democratic” cities He is a strong advocate for Law and Order and supported the police in their duties

    There is much more this man has done, for the people of America Yet, his detractors continue to slander, his courage and character One, of his opponents even called millions of Trump supporters “chumps” If this guy ever gets power then his “dark winter” could bring a severe slump

    Anyway, Americans might come to regret, if Trump is no longer president And all the left wing activists, and lunatics are in power, and in ascendant The evidence can be seen,and is available, of this powerful plot by perverted political rumps Have The Globalists and Their New World Order Finally Succeeded Against Donald J. Trump?

    “The Presidential election campaign in the United States and the controversial mandatory measles vaccination law in Germany provided perfect timing. What better than viral terror to influence public opinion and health policies on vaccine battles raging on both sides of the Atlantic?… “It is undeniable that the coronavirus epidemic has come on the scene at a crucial moment, when people everywhere are in revolt against the power of international financial institutions and multinational pharmaceutical corporations, whose stranglehold on governments is no longer hidden.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/does-coronavirus-pandemic-serve-global-agenda/5707133

  130. I live in PA, which is destined to go to Biden due to massive voter fraud in Philadelphia. But much of the blame lies with the republican controlled legislature. Here’s why:

    Unlike so many others states, the PA republicans refused to allow the opening and counting of mail in ballots until election day. That lead to a huge Trump lead of 700,000 when the polls closed, as most Trump supporters voted in person. But nary a mail in vote had been counted. That amounted to millions of uncounted mostly democrat votes.

    So, the devious democrats who run Philly, knew just how many votes they needed to swing the election, especially after they paused the counting for several hours. If the mail-in votes had been counted before election day (as in other states like Fla), with the results kept secret until the polls closed, it would have been much more difficult for the democrats to cheat. PA could have been like Florida, where the Trump win was known on election night. The republican controlled legislature outsmarted itself and potentially cost Trump re-election.

    • Replies: @Katrinka
    , @Sirius
  131. MarkU says:

    Realistically, Trump is unlikely to get more than one attempt to prove voting fraud, if he picks well the first time the process will continue, if not then the pressure to concede will increase considerably.

    It occurs to me that a solid block of Biden postal votes can happen one of two ways:-

    1) Mass production of fake ballots.

    2) Purging all the Trump votes from an assortment of genuine ballots.

    It strikes me that the second option is going to be much harder to prove and will produce pretty much the same sort of result.

  132. Agent76 says:

    “If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.” Mark Twain

    Aug 19, 2016 Electoral College and the National Archives

    Every four years the Office of the Federal Register — part of the National Archives and Records Administration — administers the Electoral College. The Office of the Federal Register informs the governments of the 50 states and the District of Columbia what is required to fulfill their duty under the Constitution to elect the President and Vice President of the United States. This video explains how the Electoral College works and the Office of the Federal Register’s role in collecting the documentation Congress needs to count the Electoral College.

  133. @Verymuchalive

    Interesting hearsay, though only interesting enough to make it worth bothering a software expert like Ron Unz assess the possibilities and the evidence.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  134. Katrinka says:
    @G J T

    Every western nation in the world is run by the tribe. It makes me sick that so many people are blind to this fact.

    • Agree: Sulu, GazaPlanet
  135. Carlos22 says:
    @BaronAsh

    Hope it’s true wish I could believe it, we’ll soon find out, find it difficult to believe the fraudsters wouldn’t spot a watermark or there would’t be an intelligence leak?

    if not true this source’s reputation will be buried forever

  136. Vote Fraud is SO bad and widespread that…
    THE ELECTION SHOULD BE INVALIDATED
    for a DO-OVER…in at least PA, GA, WI, AZ, MI and NC.

    NO MORE blitz distributed Mail In ballots, at all. Exactly WHO came up with that crap ?

    ONLY THE FOLLOWING
    Requested, verified Absentee Ballots; Overseas Military, Agency and Employed the only ones considered after threshold date.
    and
    VOTE IN PERSON
    Photo ID
    Previously registered
    Citizen

    This could be done by EMERGENCY LEGISLATION
    bypassing the traitor Roberts in SCOTUS and other Lawyer & Judge Circle Jerks.

    LET’S DO IT !

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  137. SC Rebel says:

    There certainly seems to be voter fraud here.

    Even if proof is submitted in court and let’s say it goes to the SC and they somehow give this to Trump (which I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one), his legitimacy as President will be questioned. How effective do you think he’s going to be in his second term?

    If it goes the other way and the courts side with Biden, Biden’s legitimacy as President will be questioned. With a divided government, how successful do you think Biden will be in a first term?

    So to sum it all up, we are a divided country. We have been a divided country for a long time now and this preceded Trump. So each side is going to cry foul and scream illegitimacy and such.

    The reality is that no matter what, it’s divided government, which means nothing of any real significance will get done.

    That’s probably why the markets aren’t tanking at this time.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  138. Arlo says:

    The NSA doesn’t control a voting system the General is wrong. The system is called GEMS and if you want to learn about it look up Bev Harris from Black Box Voting. There is a 2 part story called Fraction Magic.

  139. @Tommy Thompson

    Dummy Dumbkopfson blesses us with his half cent sloganeering. Rah! Rah! Rah! Sis-Boom-Bah! Baseball! Hot Dogs! Apple Pie and Chevrolet! Buy the World a Coke and Teach It to Sing in Perfect Harmony! We All Bleed Red! You May Not Like The Man, But You Have To Respect The Office!

    Do me a favor, oh Sage or Our Age, Define: American. Most people, Right or Left, seem to believe that the definition only applies to those who agree with them. They assert their moral and civic authority with every proclamation they utter by declaring that the “American People” are in accord with their views and echo their sentiments. Do they not realize that, in all probability, literally half of the population is in vehement opposition to their doctrines and philosophies?

    Personally, judging by the positions taken by Neo-Cons and Liberals alike, I can only determine, that, regardless of the fact that my ancestors arrived on this Continent prior to the establishment of the United States, and were, yet, even instrumental in the founding, I am not an American. I am merely a subject of the Empire of the United States and my existence is meaningless to those who rule it. I could care less. I am only reminded that another, more recent, set of forebears struggled valiantly, but ultimately futilely, to secure their separation from the Federal Leviathan. However the outcome of that conflict was settled, the lessons have not been lost. This time, the Burn Loot Murder (BLM) and Antifa, Anarchists and Abominations (Triple AAA) will make the dissolution much simpler. And, FOR THAT, Let us All be Thankful!

  140. @Syd Walker

    Deeply Beholden to the Military/Industrial complex???

    Clearly your respect for PCR does not include actually reading the articles he writes. Including this one. Because whatever other faults Trump has, including those personality flaws you mention, Trump is the enemy of the M/I/C, or at least they think so.

    Biden is the pro-war Establishment candidate. Trump is not. And being opposed to the ZOG does not mean you are “pro-Trump”. It means you have a functioning brain in your head.

  141. @EatMyHeart

    Could they really not manipulate the numbers more smoothly, or do we need to seek another intent?

    Great comment–it would have been child’s play to harvest mail-in ballots, use phony signatures, and then do the count on election night.

    They don’t just want to win–they want to win ugly and get everybody turning against each other.

    The folks who did the fraud are the enemy–everyone else is an innocent.

    _That_ is what every American needs to be remember, and it will be hard to remember in the coming months.

    • Replies: @dually
  142. anon[165] • Disclaimer says:

    Against the ongoing coup, Trump has to launch his own coup.
    If not, the US (and the EU) will be finished, as the Great Reset delusion will destroy everything in the West.

  143. Alfred says:

    A bit off topic. But it is also about lies.

    Here is my just-received email from my old Imperial College. I am so embarrassed by their utter brazenness. The photo shows students at their business course – which I attended after studying civil engineering there.

  144. @G J T

    ” The current definition of a European (ANY) Democracy is, “a country run by jews.””
    —Ezra Pound

    The Uniparty is nothing more than bought off Shabbos Goyim, dirty work stooges…
    with floor manager kikes directing the dirty work.

    Got Rope ?

  145. Sirius says:
    @follyofwar

    So you’re basically saying it backfired on them. They said no counting till Election Day and Trump said no counting after Election Day. Go figure.

  146. @anon

    CIA…three letters NEVER mentioned in the Lugenpresse, or by The Uniparty.

    CIA, Zionism’s First Line Hired Guns…
    also, with some lower order help…as usual, de-selected JFK.

    Let that sink in to tough brain tissue, and don’t ever forget it.

    • Agree: gay troll
  147. annamaria says:
    @MB

    Dr. Fauci has been getting his plump salary and perks as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 — for 26 years.

    A simple question for the ardent supporters of Antonio Fauci: How come that the advanced country of the US (that proudly features the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) was not equipped with surgical and other masks BEFORE the ‘epidemics’ and was not able to establish a home-based production of the masks instead of begging bad China for Chinese-made masks and ventilators?

    Antonio Fauci should have been tarred and feathered for his dereliction of duty and embezzlement of undeserved salary. This incompetent politicking weasel Fauci took the place of some competent epidemiologist with great administrative abilities.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
  148. @Syd Walker

    Equally plausible is a rather obvious explanation that Paul Craig Roberts deftly avoids mentioning: Trump is a crude, narcissistic and deeply unattractive plutocrat who may have established a cult-like following but who’s disliked by a majority of Americans (along with his billionaire-friendly economic policies). Among other possible factors are the fact that Trump’s environmental policies are so appalling they’d embarrass Richard Nixon and his America-alone approach to global politics is puerile and seen to be such by a majority of Americans?

    Exactly. And with regard to Trump’s “foreign policy” (if it can be called that) I would add something else. In 2016, Trump won the election in part because he beat Clinton by a narrow margin in WI, MI and PA (states which he has apparently lost this time around). But the margin he won by in these three states last time was less than the number of Sanders supporters who voted for him in these states.

    Since the most plausible reason (IMO) that a fraction of Sanders supporters would have voted for Trump in 2016 rather than Hillary Clinton or Jill Stein, for example, is because they were antiwar voters who were repulsed by Clinton’s bellicose rhetoric and war criminal status and they gave Trump the benefit of the doubt. IOW they expected Trump to live up to his promises to
    end endless wars, quit nation building, cooperate with Russia, promote stability in the Mideast, resort to diplomacy rather than war, etc.

    So in addition to everything else, I think Trump’s belligerent “foreign policy” (especially his nuclear brinkmanship) cost him the antiwar without which he apparently couldn’t have won last time around.

  149. Back in 2000 the Republicans (or the Cabal) probably stole that election which got Jr Bush anointed and for 8 years. Whoever gets put in the White House is just another puppet who obeys his masters.
    If you don’t do what the Cabal wants you become a one term President …. in the old days you might have left in a box.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  150. Double Standard in play:
    Northeast liberals imposed rules upon the South for voting due to a history of discriminatory practices, but assumed all along they would be exempt from such rules. It’s time to impose rules on regions where voting fraud has been documented.

    Defies Reason.
    How is it a demented old man and a former sex worker (AKA The Whore) garner more votes than a popular president?

    A setback is an opportunity.
    The corrective mechanism will follow this trend:
    allegation > investigation > court case > corrective measures. But let’s not stop there … investigation > criminal indictments > purge > the end of the Clintons , who will make the perfect example to the rest of the corrupt machine.

    Let’s get this ball rolling.

  151. When I first started trolling online years ago, most people ridiculed me for saying I would cause a race war.

  152. @SC Rebel

    ” How effective do you think he’s going to be in his second term?”

    I sure as hell would prefer a “Inneffective” DT to a dissolute old lecherous freak, and his total cabal of blue-haired nut-cases.

    AJM “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

  153. KenH says:

    Michigan has a total of five (5) presidential candidates on the ticket, so the fact that those mysterious 140,000 ballots were 100% for Biden should set off bullshit detectors everywhere.

    Wisconsin and now it appears several of the states under review have logged more votes than registered voters. The exception is Georgia who has a total vote count under the number of registered voters at least at this time.

    Milwaukee had anywhere from an 85%-89% voter turnout which shatters records and exceeds the 71% turnout when Obama was on the ticket. So you mean to tell me that the Milwaukee groids turned out in even greater numbers for an old white guy with no charisma and who hardly had any blacks show up at his rallies ?

    Trump needs either Arizona or Wisconsin and PA, NC and Georgia to exceed 270 electoral votes. If he loses AZ and Wisconsin then he would need Nevada along with PA, NC and Georgia.

    If the radical Jewish controlled Democrat party succeeds in stealing this election what you see will be their template going forward and they’ll use it to steal House and Senate seats to ensure a permanent Congressional majority.

  154. Is the coup that Roberts claims is being carried out in fact coming from the Republican side?

    An environmental collapse, a chemical implosion, elites against Trump the individual, even some in the fringe niche Trump catered to, are in on the coup.

    The reasons are plain, and hard to ignore. Any politician (Democrat or Republican) individually sees Trump as a disgrace of his own status. Loss of credibility (absurdly far too late noticed while long lost to all insiders outside the borders), Xi, Putin, the EU (while compromised themselves by the US lie and reward system) all need to shed the Trump character, to put up with a simulacrum of credibility. Trump very much vortexes into the black hole, as much as an Assange was wisked away. Not because what he did, but rather on the notice of format and style. More so on the notice of escaping by his election four years ago, the iron clad defense of the oligarchy, still the laughing stock of any insider and observer. If escorted out of the White House, there you have your scapegoat for all scheming and systemic rot including the justice system, federal services, the lot. As Machiatolli suggested, always leave an opportunity of escape open to your enemy, Trump will meekly fade, humiliated as an ultimate travesty. Being “President” the coming four years is excluded.

    Will this alter the image the US projected abroad, dim out a clunky, obtrusive, impotent, Viagra pepped Congress, of course not. The opera will only have an effect on the surplus populations of the planet, in the first place on the US territory, no-one too much concerned with that. The surplus populations of the globe are considered just that, to be mined, played, and ultimately culled for size to a fraction (10 percent of current) would make for, if discriminatorily executed, a serious relief of stress on the Planet.

    The retainer, the Jew mindset, methodology, and potential has come up as a looser of first rank at this moment in history. “Retour a la case A”, “Reset” but not as intended. Of course nothing is final, but the “hard” stuff, as Covid needs to be pulled further out of the locker, the timeline planned needs acceleration. The elites in the US need to harden up their aggression. It is sometimes a twist of faith as none, the majority of the US working class, the ethnic Whites overlapping the working class segment, and cross states, include all 17 genders, a religion or three, could not have made such a statement by not voting, by stepping into belligerent discontent and violent action.

  155. @John Q Duped

    in the old days you might have left in a box

    Well, the year is not over….don’t celebrate “civility” just yet….and 2021 could get a lot worse…

  156. Guest145 says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Christopher Bollyn has been investigating the issue of election fraud for many years. For anyone who might be interested, check out the section on his website (Bollyn.com), entitled, “U.S. Elections & Computer Vote Fraud.”

  157. pecosbill says:
    @sally

    Don’t forget the first president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was John Hanson. 1781.

    Yes under the articles of confederation. As I recall from reading about this some years ago, he was much like the house speaker with no senate or president. It was never clear to me why the urgency to form a constitution. But it was done and the states were suspicious of the power grab. To them there was a November in the woodpile somewhere thus the ten amendments and guarantee of state sovereignty. This Jeffersonian republic lasted until Lee’s surrender at Appomattox, April 1865.

    But there was a slight window of opportunity in the election of 1864 which Lincoln probably stole using suppression of opposition opinion and federal troops to ‘oversee’ polling locations. Had he been thrown out, there was a chance of reconciliation with the south and perhaps a return to the articles of confederation or a vastly improved federal constitution. But….it didn’t happen.

    Cause it ain’t the Republicans that are too establishment to effectively fight back, its the entire lot of sissy foot 340,000,000 Americans

    Agree mostly although not all. Yet too many white ‘men’ care for little except for feetsball, pone, and beer. Young white men who ask me about joining the US military, I tell them consider something else more productive. Don’t come back dead having fought for something already dead a long time ago.

    • Agree: Liza, Johnny Walker Read
  158. @Sirius

    It’s basically not about “right” or “left” rather concerning a cabal of psychopathic grifters and crazies : The Democrats, converting the US in a PC madhouse and making life unbearable for the poor bloke who has to get up at 5am and head to the production line, only to be taxed to the bone to support, feed, and house masses of individuals who will never earn a dime on their own.

    AJM

    • Agree: TKK
  159. Liza says:
    @anon

    Col. Cassad points out that five national television networks censored an address of the sitting US president and contradicted his censored claims.

    I saw that, too (NBC I think). Couldn’t they have waited til he was finished with his speech before they launched into their contradictions of his statements? They were talking right over him. SMH.

  160. c matt says:

    The question is not whether the Democrats committed fraud; the question is whether they will get away with it.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  161. @Harold Smith

    Sarasota Memorial Hospital in FL has been treating patients with Covid-19 the same way Trump was treated. They started this treatment regime before Trump was hospitalized.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  162. Covid fears and masks were all about allowing massive mail voting (which I agree is fraud-prone)? And the mask ordinances in Europe and Asia, what are they for? Also part of the conspiracy?

    Sounds deluded to me.
    One of the problems is that the US is no longer a hight trust society and that parts of the voting process is as badly in shape as much of the inftrastuctrure so that fraud seems possible.

  163. Poco says:
    @vot tak

    Yeah Biden and Harris will be fighting the good fight against likud!
    Whether Trump is one or not it is without doubt that you are a pathetic dupe of the likudites. Or possibly, an enthusiastic agent. That’s it. Biden had nothing to do with encouraging mideast wars did he? Never voted for it once, eh?

  164. @cylindrical crown

    Sarasota Memorial Hospital in FL has been treating patients with Covid-19 the same way Trump was treated. They started this treatment regime before Trump was hospitalized.

    That is only because Sarasota Memorial Hospital is conducting a clinical trial of “Regeneron.” So as I said, Trump was treated “with modalities not generally available to the average person” and this is a correct statement.

  165. Poco says:

    I’d like to know why Putin and his Rooshians didn’t use their invisible rooskie mind control rays to tip the election to Trump. Oh wait, they probably did, so the benevolent democrat party rigged the election to protect us from the those evil Rooshians who make people vote for Trump. What a shithole.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  166. The new rulers are just hoping opposing Whites take to the streets peacefully or otherwise because they have been itching to put Obama’s Jan. 11, 2010 EO13528 in effect for ten years. After the engineered Swine Flu hoax and Mossad’s shoe bomber fiasco Obama’s handlers nullified the Posse Comitatus Act with Executive Order 13528 giving the Pentagon control of all the states National Guard forces. So in essence all domestic military will be under the United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) formed in 2002 by George W. Bush to fight the “War on terror” here on the home front, and to also “Protect our nation against ALL TYPES OF HAZARDS”, would shouting ‘election fraud’ in a crowded theater be considered a Hazard or make you a Terrorist ?

  167. @padre

    I don’ t know. What do you exactly mean ?
    Anyway… The surnatural sudden surge of votes for Biden is a a sufficient condition in itself to conclude to a fraud.
    It’s something never seen , anytime, anywhere, as far as I know…

    • Agree: FLgeezer
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  168. Farquad says:
    @Anon

    What an incredibly stupid idea: Leave all the military training and equipment in the hands of your enemies and become defenseless. Do you even think about this crap you post at all?

    Lower level officers and more capable enlisted men (mostly white) are about the only thing they fear.

  169. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    No, no.

    Mail-in ballots are not distributed with checkboxes pre-filled, yet they are still foul.

    Voting should not be painless. At the very least, only in-person voting should be allowed; reinstate poll taxes.

    Unsolicited (postage paid!) ballots are 98% painless and darn close to proxy voting. “Hey, Pop. Can I have your ballot?”

    A flagrant foul.

  170. anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s tempting to focus exclusively on the American tradition of ballot-stuffing, but we have to keep it in context. Ballot-stuffing is only the second or third line of defense against the popular will.

    Everybody remembers how fast Gore and then Kerry rolled over to let CIA install spy brat G.W. Bush. That allowed the Mockingbird media to divert Americans’ attention from spectacular electoral fraud. Trump hasn’t knuckled under yet only because CIA has not yet put the horse head in his bed. CIA spent four years attacking Trump and keeping him off-balance, so we’ve got unprecedented public awareness of CIA coercive interference in domestic affairs. CIA can’t be quite as blatant as when they purged JFK.

    So the question is, When does Gina Haspel resign? Her acting successor will call the TKO and stop the fight. Does the new DCI let it go to the bribed and blackmailed hacks of the supreme court? Kavanaugh is CIA’s man on the ground there but the new girl might not know what’s what.

    Gina Haspel spent a couple years stuffing the SIS with her most fanatical loyalists, to preserve her impunity for inter alia torture and to ensure continuity of the only part of government that matters, CIA. That means CIA’s choice of presidential puppet rulers. Keep your eye on Evanina – he’s a disposable goon.

  171. @c matt

    The question is not whether the Democrats committed fraud; the question is whether they will get away with it.

    , correct and include republicans, oligarchs, billionaires, administrative services operatives, media, the Post Office, anything upper middle class, anything in a dark suit, the whole food-chain above bottom middle class, anything that feasts on the carcass of the US loot, military brass, anything offended by being discovered, exposed. Trump the individual is the lamb to be slaughtered! It is all about credibility, anything globally tuning to the US “moral highground” is exposed. Merkel, Macron, Boris dear, their operatives, the West´s elites (a Jewish construct) need a wash! Trump is soap!

    Of course “they” will get away with it!

  172. @Cauchemar du Singe

    You are right, and the only acceptable ID and proof of citizenship for future elections should be a U.S. passport. Make them available for $20 to all US Citizens and hire additional USCIS staff to issue the necessary passports at a reasonable pace.

    • Agree: Occasional lurker
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Reg Cæsar
  173. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    How else do you accumulate a bloc of 150,000 ballots ALL of which were marked exclusively for the same candidate, namely the inept and feckless Joe Biden?

    Street people were asked by party hacks to sign pre-marked ballots which were immediately given back to the DNC minions who cached them and turned them in to the counting centers en masse where no questions were asked regarding their authenticity and the incredibly suspicious results given no pause whatsoever by a biased election commission. Once a cache of ballots is scored by a scanning machine there is no identifying the sources of those “votes,” especially if the now superfluous ballots are discarded or misplaced. That’s how.

    I’m sure the “charitable donations” from George Soros and Mike Bloomberg to the compliant street urchins was greatly appreciated and did not influence their actions in any way. Bloomberg was so generous that he bailed out thousands of incarcerated minorities in Florida alone so they could vote… against Trump. Must all be perfectly legal because the parties have been “streamlining” the electoral process like this for generations.

    Probably in the future your default vote for whomever the power elite wants will be automatically registered unless you go to great pains to nullify it and substitute for it. Future party machines in America will make Lukashenko look like a piker with his mere 80% approval.

  174. TG says:

    It’s not stealing to pick up what someone else has thrown away.

    Trump governed like Mitt Romney. His only accomplishment was giving the super rich a big whopping tax cut. On everything else he campaigned for in 2016, he basically didn’t even bother to try and deliver. And this time around did he campaign on what he won with last time? No. He appoints Jared Kushner acting president, proposes a ludicrous and viciously racist “platinum plan” for blacks, and denounces imaginary “white supremacists.”

    Many have said that people aren’t voting for Biden, they are voting against Trump. Perhaps the opposite is also true?

    • Replies: @Sirius
  175. Astaroth says:
    @Wally

    That is really funny. I haven’t laughed so much in ages. Really appreciated!

  176. @Wizard of Oz

    You are being rather disingenuous here. It is actual software experts who are making the criticisms. It is unbecoming that a man of your mature years – a proper Wizard indeed – should need Ron Unz to tell him what to think.
    This issue won’t go away. Over the road, Jihadi Kevin and his mates are already embroiled in this issue. Both inside UR and in the outside world, I fully expect this to become a hot topic. No doubt a lot more will come out and we’ll both have a better understanding of what’s involved. Until then, keep your powder dry.

  177. @vot tak

    Never mind the troll button, where’s the insane button.

  178. @Harold Smith

    That would be a fairly addled “AntiWar movement” not to have noticed that Trump is the first president in generations to not start any wars, an made efforts to end US wars but was defeated by his own generals.

    Or that Biden and the HinduDindu have both promised war if elected.

    Tell me, do you think all of the “AntiWar Movement” are as completely dense as you claim?

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  179. @sally

    Ok, Sally.
    Maybe there never was real democracy in the US like you say, I don’t know…
    But at the times you mention, everybody agreed that women where not men, that country borders exist and should be used and that 8 month abortion was a crime… The problem is the internal crumbling of the morality , honesty and logic within a lot of western people.
    Just compare people of quality like A.Jackson, Nixon or Carter with Bush Jr or Clinton…

    • Thanks: FLgeezer
    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  180. @Robert Snefjella

    Technically possible, hard to play out, concerning the insiders´ need to be involved. Hard to play out to wipe almost the whole of the useless and expensive political class at once of the table, hard to be maintained in the mid-term, expect the enemy to return with a vengeance. Such a scheme would prove a hard core fraction of the elites existing and taking over. A reset indeed. I give the mention a war game status as different from a successfully executed operation.

  181. @Christophe GJ

    Fraud was obvious in this and many other things. However, fraudsters and fraud instigators won’t acknowledge it and will pretend than everything was hunky-dory. So, our senile walking dead will be officially “elected”, just like senile walking dead in Zimbabwe. In contrast to Zimbabwe, our military won’t remove the scoundrel and his clique, because they have the same puppet masters as the fraudsters. Welcome to the banana republic.

  182. @RadicalCenter

    That would make election fraud harder to accomplish. Which means, it won’t happen.

  183. @Hiram of Tyre

    #62

    Lincoln was long dead in 1884

  184. @Beavertales

    It is hard to prove fraud with the mail in ballots, that is why they should never been used. People probably are real they just did not know they voted or were paid for their ballot. If you were to audit you will find real people to every ballot. When you send them out for free without a request, they will all come back with a legal vote.

    • Replies: @Anon
  185. Disagree on the immigration issue.

    The main reason the left is prospering right now is because the Covid outbreak plays into the hands of parties that are left-leaning on health care issues, makes fiscal conservatives look like heartless scrooges, and has temporarily made immigration a non-issue. However that doesn’t mean voters have suddenly turned liberal on immigration or have got on board with the woke agenda. If the Democrats go full woke and open the immigration floodgates over the next two years, they will get hammered in the mid-term elections.

    The Covid boost to the left isn’t just an American thing either. Right wing parties in a number of western countries are down in opinion polls, and the centre left inflicted a crushing defeat on the centre right in a recent election in New Zealand.

  186. Sirius says:
    @TG

    Very likely about voting against the other candidate and very true about his only accomplishment. As much as Trump is a self-righteous vulgarian with absolutely no class or manners or proper conviction, I couldn’t get myself to support Likudnik, pro-Iraq war Biden either. The worst choice I’ve seen ever. There will never be a solution as long we’re stuck with the 2 plutocratic parties.

  187. Catdog says:
    @BaronAsh

    Sounds like Q schizo rambling unfortunately. There is no 4D chess and no master plan.

    Trump can still win, if he doesn’t give up. But it’s obvious that he’s feeling desperate and there’s no ace up his sleeve.

  188. Cyrano says:

    Well, I guess it’s time to pass the cookies around. Trump suffered his Maidan moment and Nuland is not around either to do the role of the fat lady singing (that’s when it’s over) or to pass the cookies around.

    It could have been worse for Trump though, at least he suffered only a Maidan moment, not a Maidanek moment – which the way the things were going, was not totally out of the question.

    I guess there is poetic (or a really bad prose) justice in all of this. In 2016 – the lesser evil won, in 2020 – it was time for the greater evil to win. That’s what democracy is all about. Trump can still choose whether to take the whole carefully choreographed fiasco meekly, or he can go Iron Maidan on the putschists. It’s probably useless, democracy always wins – if necessary even by putsch.

  189. Catdog says:

    The benford’s law anomalies are the most convincing evidence, in my opinion. Do the anomalies indidicat the type of fraud that was most likely used?

    If the dems simply physically manufactured ballots, or had dead people vote in significant numbers, wouldn’t that still follow Benford’s Law? My understanding is that the numbers have to be MADE UP to see a variance. Maybe double and triple counting the same ballots. So a recount would be the best option to pursue.

    Am I right or wrong on this?

  190. Liza says:
    @anarchyst

    Rebreathing your own exhalations is not good for you…

    Somebody phone the apparatchiks who mandated mask wearing and tell them. It may not be good for adults, but it is deadly for children, especially if they are moving around and need more oxygen than if they are sitting still. Ghastly. What has this world come to. I imagine that over time that these chronically masked children, as they become adults, will actually adjust to the lesser amount of oxygen and eventually de-volve back into a lower form of life, not human anymore. Don’t laugh. It is possible.

    My penpal in SC sent me a photo of her 2 gorgeous grandchildren, all masked up, on their first day of school. Ages 5 and 7. Couldn’t even see their faces.

  191. @RadicalCenter

    You are right, and the only acceptable ID and proof of citizenship for future elections should be a U.S. passport.

    And a Firearms Owner Identification card, like Illinois has. Nothing would clean up our electorate faster.

    https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/FOID.aspx

  192. TKK says:
    @Ben Gunn

    The level of censorship is amazing. That is one reason Trump is having such a hard time.

    Even the NewsMax guest speakers are saying today : He needs a hard legal argument.

    And:

    His speech last night did him no favors.

    It is akin to nailing jelly to the wall. How does one frame and fight multiple mega industries and the entire political machine who are all gunning for you? How do you fight fake ballot that mysteriously appear overnight and erase your leads in 4 states??? He can’t win.

    The only way he can prevail is if the Supreme Court orders a new election with election monitors from Japan and S. Korea. Legally, the SCOTUS can do anything it wants. They can change everything.

    Will they? Highly Doubtful.

  193. Wade says:
    @anarchyst

    I can’t agree more. Fortunately I work from home. But every time I got out for an extended period of time having to hit up various stores with a mask on, I frequently come back feeling slightly ill later that evening. A nasal wash with a Netti-Pot often helps. I know it’s the mask. I don’t know how other people have being doing this for so long.

    Here lately I’ve taken to wearing the mask, but pulling it down beneath my nose frequently so as not to keep inhaling the air. Store employees may notice but they don’t say anything about it.

    • Replies: @BluJak
  194. AReply says:

    All this blabbering about Zion and white grievance and fraud fails to observe any principle of thought.

    This forum is 90% brats crying and 10% bored old white contractors lamenting a better world of their own minds

    Turnip (Apple corrected to turnip so I’ll leave it!) has been so bad at his job that I’ve wished that the elections could be rigged just to get rid of him. He makes me believe in Kissinger / McNamara and the contagion theory of popular political involvement that necessitated incineration from the skies in order to correct a people gone wrong in their sense of internal determination.

    The President is first and foremost a figurehead of the psychic health of nation. Trump has been terrible at it. He’s a disease that makes people want to inject bleach in a desperate hope to cure themselves. I have no doubt that powerful interests see this a just fine

    Old white American men: Wake up to what most of the world has suffered for last 500 years and look inside yourselves for understanding of what so many others feel in the wide margins of society

  195. @Christophe GJ

    You’re right. Nixon did not instigate, know or approve of the Watergate burglary. This was committed for reasons John Dean probably only knows about. Nixon got sucked into a cover-up very late in the day. He was not covering up his own guilt, as he was not involved in the crime in any way.
    His sins were minor compared to Biden’s.
    Biden’s corruption is egregious by any standards. This shows the corruption of America and its MSM in its true light.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Nuncle
  196. anastasia says:

    they elected not a man suspected as a crook, but a man proven beyond all reasonable doubt to be a crook. Wow! I’m impressed.

  197. Wade says:
    @Raoul

    I saw that too but after a few moments of reflection decided it was probably bunk. This Pieczenik guy (according to the comment section over at Zero Hedge) has been guilty before of issuing Q-like threats that the arrests are coming any day now, and it never happened.

    Also, if this is true, why is the Trump team getting itself all riled in local/state court disputes over small-potatoes giving the opposing camp time to regroup in light of Trump’s moves? Per the Sun Tzu quote why not just remain seemingly insouciant about your loss, letting the Dems think you have nothing, and then after securing all of your proof, BANG, drop the axe!!!

    Also, I keep wondering what is this “block chain” technology that can be secretly applied to a ballot to allow Trump’s camp to know “everywhere that ballot’s been”?? What, is the post office scanning it? Is there some nano transmitter transmitting a signal to satellites so they can track it? Briefly, the Info Wars video displayed a letter or some text leading me to think that perhaps what they did instead was to use a watermark that would simply enable them to distinguish a “true” ballot from one that was not printed by official state authorities. But, as someone pointed out, don’t the states and even the counties print their own ballots? Even if there are only 1 or 2 companies that print them for the states, given all the cheating, does anyone really think that the security establishment and the ballot printing companies would allow Trump to execute a sting of this magnitude in total secret? And why would they allow this fellow to mention any of this at all BEFORE the sting is executed?

    I wish Pieczenik would shut the F up and quit spreading disinfo which just causes complacency: “hey, don’t worry Trump’s got this totally under control ya’ll!”

    I would be really happy if I turned out to be wrong, of course.

  198. Michigan Democrat Ballot Harvester Walter Sobchak

    Dude, I can get you 300,000 Biden votes by 3:00 PM

  199. @Verymuchalive

    It’s my substitute for making a bet that the supposed hacking scandal is BS. I occasionally make an online bet -90% on politics – but I can’t see a way to do it on my instinct about hacking

    Interesting that Sportsbet told me two days ago it would pay out on my bets on Biden. As I made a small lat off bet on Trump at the last moment I am entertained by the idea that I might winos that bet as well.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  200. Michigan Democrat Ballot Harvester Walter Sobchak.

    Dude, I can get you an additional 300,000 Biden votes by 3:00 PM

  201. TKK says:

    Biden is going to address the country tonight and claim victory. The treason of the MSM to allow him that opportunity is horrific.

    Once Biden claims the Presidency , Trump loses his momentum. He will not lose legal standing. But these turncoats like the obese, repellent Jaba the Hut Chris Christy are telling Trump to “formulate an argument” and it sways Judges. They are political animals.

    I have to agree with several posters here that Trump’s pandering to minorities did him no favors. No crowds of blacks are clamoring to Stop the Steal. Just hard working whites, middle class- the people who keep the lights on- are out in the streets in Philly fighting for him.

    That’s a wrap, folks.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8921511/Biden-takes-lead-Pennsylvania-5-000-votes.html

  202. Cyrano says:

    The Beatles had one song – it was called – The End. How appropriately named, perhaps in regard to what’s happening now. The only thing I would change in that song are lyrics. They should go like this:

    And in the end, the laws you break are equal to the laws you make.

  203. @Genrick Yagoda

    That would be a fairly addled “Genrick Yagoda” not to have noticed that most antiwar voters are far too informed and sophisticated to fall for that misleading cliche.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  204. The Benford’s law anomalies are the most convincing evidence, in my opinion. Do the anomalies indicate the type of fraud that was most likely used?

    Does this mean YouTube will now pull all those videos explaining it?

    Below the MORE tag are James Grime and Steve Mould of Nottingham’s Numberphile to explain it. Surprise! Although both are several years old, new comments are pouring in at the moment. Wonder why…

    But it’s important to remember that statistical anomalies don’t prove fraud, they merely show that it is exceedingly more likely than chance. So if you can’t expect to throw individuals in jail (presumption of innocence, a pet cause of the author), you can certainly damn the totals themselves, and throw them in the recycling bin. Which is what must be done.

    But what if there is no time or legal means to hold a new election? In the case of the presidency, there is a simple solution. The legislatures of the compromised states simply ignore the received totals and choose the electors themselves, among the remaining candidates not disqualified.

    Perfectly legal, legitimate, and ethical.

    [MORE]

    A slight correction to these for math geeks:

  205. BluJak says:

    You believe this crap? Why? The Republicans made rules to prevent early counting just so this delayed results scenario would happen. They created doubt well in advance just for this purpose. Trump has been talking about this scenario for months and actually encouraged it by delaying post office delivery of ballots. Talk about obvious ‘Deep State’ manipulation! Just destroy post office efficiency to cast doubt. Oh yeah. Nevermind that paper backups exist that defy computer program manipulations. You guys are so gullible to believe this made up crap.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  206. @AReply

    Old white American men: Wake up to what most of the world has suffered for last 500 years and look inside yourselves for understanding of what so many others feel in the wide margins of society

    I’ve never written profanity in my comments on UNZ before, but shut the fuck up, you low IQ twisted little Hate Whitey tool.

    You want me to apologize for the fact that Africans, Dot and Feather Indians, and the majority of the world were too stupid and savage to form functioning societies before white people create practically the whole modern world?

    I’ll “wake up” to your sufferink the second you turd world savages apologize for eating Etienne Brule. And pay us reparations.

    • Thanks: GeneralRipper
    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Polemos
  207. BluJak says:
    @Wade

    What a whiney little whus you are! I can’t wear my mask because I have to use a netti! Haha.

  208. BluJak says:
    @TKK

    Trump gets more free press than anyone in history. The problem is that he is irrational.

  209. @Harold Smith

    Can you try again in any language that resembles English or frames an argument?

    What “misleading cliche” are you slobbering about? Do tell.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  210. dually says:

    I have to agree with several posters here that Trump’s pandering to minorities did him no favors.

    Think again. Trump. Won. The. Election.

    This is turning into a real constitutional crisis and the standard Americanism = Racism isn’t going to hold up. Putting a deep state puppet on the throne just isn’t going to work. Remember, the Japanese relied on the calculation that the Americans were a complacent, rural, backwards bunch with no fight in them when they attacked Pearl Harbor.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  211. Demographic change is real and it’s on display right here in America. People vote for themselves (those who reflect them) and they obviously seen themselves in Biden and Harris, a true reflection of the United States with everyone waiting for old whitey to die. Stop trying to turn the right into the left with the stolen election nonsense. Be a good sport and let it go. It wouldn’t get any better here with ol’Trump anyway.

  212. @Tom Welsh

    Then the Russian and Chinese missiles will arrive and we will never watch anything again.

    The good thing is that we get to see the west coast go first…I will be happy to die after that. LOL

  213. @Begemot

    One of the techniques of the color revolutions carried out by the US government abroad has been to put forth claims prior to an election that will serve to deligitimize the outcome, unless the desired candidate wins.

    Example A, from the Sulzberger Blog (and multiple other corporate narrative promotion agencies) mindlessly repeating this canard:
    “Trump is DESTINED to lose, because WE SAY SO. After his “inevitable” loss, any claim that he won will clearly be both false AND evidence of a ebil FASCIST NOT-SEE COUP! QED!”

    Example B: the oft-repeated (and equally moronic) claim from the same sources that the decline in mail volume since the 90s is not due to the obvious cause (the rise of email), but actually due to a longstanding conspiracy between Drumpf, Putin, and the Ghost of Hitler to steal all of the mail-in ballots?

    Good point.

  214. Rooster10 says:

    Here in the USSA, you do not have election, election have you!

  215. @Wizard of Oz

    Never bet on Politics, Horses or Dogs. The fix is always in, except you rarely know when, as in this case. For obvious reasons.
    I was a successful gambler on Golf back in the day when it was a competitive and growing ( worldwide ) sport. That was 20 years and more ago. Now its a sad and pale shadow of itself. Even Steve Sailer more or less admits it.
    I was also successful at Football ( Association, not Aussie or American ) . But the concentration of TV money on fewer clubs means that there are far fewer shocks than in the past. So I rarely bet at all now. My only bet in the last year was in a Cup competition. It seemed to be cancelled, so I claimed back my stake. A month later, they said they would complete the competition next month.
    Donald Trump will not go gently into that good night. It’s going to be interesting.

  216. @Anon

    Erm, no. The Panthers used to encourage joining up not because they agreed with the “imperialist” aims of the armed forces … the training and contacts at taxpayers´expense are worth it (experto credite 😛 ).

  217. @anondragonfire

    Really?
    People see themselves as Biden: an old white guy with a crooked family, all bent over for China, and a crack head son who has to be kept away from his 14 yr. old niece (I have the .jpg’s of this, so don’t even try to argue this isn’t true)?

    People see themselves as an unmarried, no children or boyfriend, part-black, part-North Indian who someone ‘made’ it in politics despite a total lack of any discernable talent?

    Really?

    Go back to Portland antifag.

  218. @TKK

    Yup,conservative America still suffers sever anal pain from the high, hard one it received from Chief Justice John Roberts on what I believe was his first ruling, you know, the legality of that little thing called Obama Care. So drop trau and bend over America, I have a feeling round two is coming.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
  219. Incitatus says:

    “Republicans should think instead what it means to be governed by a President covered in criminal scandal”

    Really?

    Newsflash PCR. Kushner Companies borrowed $850 million in multiple government backed loans (Freddie Mac) to buy 6-7,000 real estate properties in Maryland and Virginia. Loans are interest-only for the initial decade (sweetheart terms – taxpayers own the risk). Jared Kushner, WH ‘Senior Advisor’ and head of the dysfunctional White House COVID task force, retains active interest in the company, despite the obvious conflict of interest (failing to control the virus means more deaths, more properties available at rock-bottom prices).

    Second blatant conflict of interest – Westminster Management (owned in part by Kushner) is starting to evict hundreds of tenants as COVID moratoriums expire. Kushner’s incentive is to fail to control the virus and thus contribute the market turnover.

    Third blatant conflict of interest – Jared is active in Cadre, a firm started with his brother Josh, which recently attracted $90 million in overseas funding through Goldman Sacks: there’s no disclosure on funding sources (Bahrain, UAE, KSA, whoever). Is this payback for the miraculous peace deal (acquiring F-35s and other weapons)?

    Despite income listed $29-135 million (2018) and wealth estimated at $324 million (2018), Kushner is thought to have paid little or no income tax 2009-2016 through the miracle of depreciation. Kind of like father-in-law patriot/deadbeat Donald.

    Fourth blatant conflict of interest -Trump daughter/Kushner wife Ivanka (another WH ‘Senior Advisor’) collects trademarks (applied for 17 in China 2017; China granted 41 by Apr 2019); other TMs in Japan and Canada [Ivanka Trump Marks LLC – Ivanka Trump fashion gear, sunglasses, handbags, shoes, jewelry, beauty services and voting machines, child-care centers, wedding dresses, art valuation services; toys, alcoholic beverages, foods, real-estate services; clothes made in China, Indonesia and Vietnam via G-III Apparel Group]. Hard to believe there’s a real trade war.

    “We are experiencing a well designed and successful coup against American democracy and accountable government.”

    Sorry PCR. The coup was four years ago elevating parasites that “love America” and pay nothing for it.

    Reasonable people might agree incendiary failures proved wrong should (as in Athens – mother of democracy) be exiled for specific terms. What do you think PCR? Ever been to Turkey?

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  220. @Dumbo

    Open Doors 2.1 or Bloody Kansas 2.0

    Were it not for the nukes, this might actually be fun to watch 😀

  221. Anonius says:

    Fact: Stolen election. Yes, indeed. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is absolutely correct here.

    Bottom line: There is absolutely nothing that Trump will be able to do about it.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @dually
  222. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Take that reported Michigan lead of 149,388 votes (or whatever it might be now). Sure, it’s a number, and numbers don’t lie, right? If all one is watching is the numbers that come out the end of the pipe, then everything is fine.

    From the OP:

    Note also that the exact same thing occurred in neighboring Wisconsin at about the same time. So we had two simultaneous “data entry errors” in two critical contested states that wiped out Trump’s lead? How likely is that?

    Not very likely:

    https://postimg.cc/wtqSBjQW

    https://postimg.cc/6T2FqSCN

    https://postimg.cc/CRY2vxXF

    The university study has already been done which scientifically demonstrates that the USA is an oligarchy, not a democracy.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4?op=1

    https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

    Though every every country (and every organization of significant size) is functionally an oligarchy to a large degree. Democracy doesn’t scale. And even if you don’t cheat on the actual voting, the votes are largely determined (at least over the medium to long term) by who controls the “means of production of public opinion” (media/ education complex) and what narratives they choose to promote. Why do you think they get so bent out of shape about so-called “fake news”/ “misinformation”/ “disinformation”/ “foreign influence operations” etc.? This are all just labels for “wrong” (i.e. dissident/ heretical) narratives. And people who are exposed to the “wrong” narratives will develop the “wrong” beliefs — and will vote the “wrong” way. The managed dialectic of the “two party” system helps to mitigate that risk, but narrative enforcement is still a high priority — and for good reason (from their perspective).

    • Thanks: Ultrafart the Brave
  223. @dually

    the Japanese relied on the calculation that the Americans were a complacent, rural, backwards bunch with no fight in them when they attacked Pearl Harbor.

    We are entering chaos theory land.

    Anyone who thinks they know what will happen in the next few months is totally crazy.

    The second, third and fourth order consequences of this kind of madness remain hidden, and perhaps too scary to contemplate.

  224. profnasty says:

    Trump was the last White President.
    If you’re a White man, under 30, get out while the getting is good. Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Argentina, Russia, East Europe. This is your warning. You’re dead here.

    • Replies: @bruce county
  225. Why does a British news service have a “Fact Check Team” to protect an American political party? Is the campaign against red state America organized globally?

    Haha, this question needs to even be posed?

    What was Christopher Steele and the British deep state up to?

    Red State America is hated by the entire Anglosphere. I’ve always said the BBC should be forced to register as a foreign agent.

  226. dually says:
    @Anonius

    Bottom line: There is absolutely nothing that Trump will be able to do about it.

    On the contrary, in fact, a world of possibilities open up once the defrauded electorate realize that this is the CCP equivalent of Pearl Harbor, with a communist takeover of the Presidency featuring their own heavily compromised candidate – Biden. The destabilization effort may have begun back when the CCP virus was unleashed early this year.

    As far as being “able to do about it”, the fireworks haven’t yet begun!

    • Replies: @Anonius
  227. Corvinus says:

    “We are experiencing a well designed and successful coup against American democracy and accountable government.”

    No. It was rather predictable voting patterns. Democrats had way more mail in votes, turn out is up for both parties, Blue Dog Democrats who voted for Trump went for Biden. Remember, Trump had primed the pump the past two months. He said he would win no matter what. If he won, no fraud. If he lost, massive fraud. That is insane.

    “No, this is not a conspiracy theory. It is a revolution against red state America”.

    That would be Fake News.

  228. Derer says:
    @Christophe GJ

    The “Democrats” colossal scam was meticulously prepared couple years before the voting day. It was manifested by the fake polls showing corrupted Biden ahead so that the cheating on the election day will not be suspicious. They executed the Stalin’s views in detail: “It’s not the people who vote that count, it’s the people who count the votes.”

  229. Iris says:
    @Christophe GJ

    Why would all the by – mail votes only benefit Biden ?

    Bernie Sanders took care of answering that question beforehand, ten days before the election, when talking to Jimmy Fallon 🙂

    According to Sanders, Republicans are more prone to vote in person, while Democrats are most inclined to use mail-in ballots. From 3:45 in the video:

    • Replies: @Pft
    , @Vojkan
  230. Nuncle says:
    @Christophe GJ

    It probably did, but not on the same scale. Perhaps the current situation could have been averted if Trump had created an agency to review the 2016 results and expose the extent of Democrat fakery.

  231. dually says:
    @Justvisiting

    The folks who did the fraud are the enemy

    What about the vote fraud that we don’t know about? Just how popular has the Globalist/Soros/CCP party really been in past elections compared to the Trumplicans?

  232. Nuncle says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Nixon’s ‘sin’ was that he revealed to Billy Graham that he believed that the Jews ran America. Watergate was a beat up to take him out and replace him with someone more friendly to Jews.

    • Agree: Katrinka
  233. Nuncle says:
    @Sol

    The most effective propaganda strategy is to accuse your enemy of intending to do what you yourself intend to do. It makes them look bad and you look virtuous – even in the very act of committing a crime.

  234. @Christophe GJ

    Fraud should be of little concern in a two-horse race with two donkeys running. The real fraud is having such asinine idiots running for office with millions of followers in the most powerful, albeit thoroughly brainwashed, country on the planet.

    • Agree: Black Picard
    • Replies: @Black Picard
  235. @Verymuchalive

    There are a lot of software experts but I would put more reliance on the opinion of Ron Unz, both because of his record and because his credibility would be on the line in a way in which it is not when he makes dismissive remarks about aspects of 9/11 (like references to Arabs with box-cutters and buildings collapsing into their own footprints).

    That said, I acknowledge the point made by the com.enter who posted “Stuxnet”. One still needs a well developed scenario. And who, in the American Deep State has proved the necessary level of competence?

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  236. Sulu says:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    are people really that dumb that they can’t see what’s happening

    YES!

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
  237. @Wizard of Oz

    And who, in the American Deep State has proved the necessary level of competence?

    Well, they got rid of Kennedy and Nixon readily enough. They didn’t have to assassinate or impeach Trump, they just had to rig the elections, They have, after all, been doing that abroad for many decades. Even before WWI. Take a look at your history books.

    • Agree: annamaria
  238. Pft says:
    @Iris

    The reason is the Democrats base is concentrated in urban areas. A nightmare voting in any urban poll center in normal circumstances. Made worse over fears of COVID. So they choose mail in. Republicans base are in suburbs for the most part. Voting is easier. They hop into their SUV instead of a public bus and vote with the mask while having space to socially distance. The demographics completely different.

    The fact so many key states were so close made this an issue. In many called states votes are still being counted. How Trump failed to clean the clocks going against one of the worst candidates of all time is puzzling, although TBH he was one of the worst candidates of all time as well

    I don’t see any real evidence of systematic fraud. Just isolated cases we see in most elections

  239. @Genrick Yagoda

    Can you try again in any language that resembles English…

    I’d prefer to use English, as per my earlier comment. If you’re having trouble understanding it maybe you could just ask your guardian, nurse, caregiver (or some other sympathetic adult) to read what I wrote and explain it to you in simpler child-like terms, commensurate with your apparent cognitive impairment.

    …or frames an argument?

    What is there to argue about?

    What “misleading cliche” are you slobbering about? Do tell.

    I’m not slobbering about anything; apparently you’re looking at your mirror, rather than your monitor, as you type your infantile jew drivel, Shlomo.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  240. @Ultrafart the Brave

    No, Americans really are that dumb. IQs have been declining steadily here for 50 years n no one cares. What passes for education here is Looney Tunes, called Critical Race Theory.

  241. Anonius says:
    @dually

    (a) The entire “… the CCP virus …” vs. “the US Army on military games in Wuhan – virus” controversy is unrelated to the issue at hand (a different discussion thread).

    (b) That “… the fireworks haven’t yet begun …” is true – and they undoubtedly never will (but please do not hesitate to let us know if they still do).

    • Replies: @dually
  242. Polemos says:
    @anarchyst

    The common denominator was the (forced) wearing of masks.

    So, I went looking for the study you say is out there. Using the search terms ‘mask wearing fauci 1918 bacterial pneumonia’, I came across a number of “fact check” sites (Politifact, Reuters, snopes, checkyourfact, &c) saying Fauci never wrote what you claim he had, but I also came across a study from 2008 that appears to be what you’re referring to except for it not matching your “approximately four years ago” claim. Here’s that study:
    https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/198/7/962/2192118

    This study says nothing about masks, though.

    What is the specific study you saw saying what you claim? Was this the study you looked up?

  243. @Rahan

    The Brits are still trying to get even for losing in 1776.

  244. Ghali says:

    If Kamala Harris becomes president, we will have in the Oval Office a female of color who hates white people and is vindictive against them.” This statement is misleading.
    First, Michelle Obama (wife of President B. Obama) was a Black woman and was in the Oval Office for 8 years.

    Second, Harris is married to a white Jews and has been working to advance White’s interests all her life. More importantly, when it comes to Black Americans, Harris was vicious. She put many Black Americans behind bars, and was instrumental in enforcing racist Police powers against Black Americans. She is, just like Obama, an asset to White Americans and Zionist Jews (Israel) interests.

    • Agree: Hillbob
    • Disagree: Katrinka
    • Replies: @ivan
    , @Robert Dolan
  245. Polemos says:
    @BluJak

    They created doubt well in advance just for this purpose. Trump has been talking about this scenario for months and actually encouraged it by delaying post office delivery of ballots.

    Are you familiar with the Transition Integrity Project that gamed several scenarios for a contested election? If not, please see Whitney Webb’s reporting on this here.

    It wasn’t just Trump who intended to use chaos as an opportunity. These scenarios gamed by the Open Society Foundation, former Obama admincrats, New America, and others demonstrate an overall perspective that multiple parties have significant interests in seizing the moment. China, for example, has several connections to TIP’s gamers, and has much to gain from assisting an incoming (or so to speak, as they are all already there) Biden administration.

  246. Polemos says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    You want me to apologize for the fact that Africans, Dot and Feather Indians, and the majority of the world were too stupid and savage to form functioning societies before white people create practically the whole modern world?

    What European city of the same time period was as large and as clean as Tenochtitlan?

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  247. TKK says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Wow, I couldn’t agree with you more.

    Chief Justice Roberts, the man who never met a corporation that didn’t make him go weak in the knees,

    Disgusting.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  248. @profnasty

    Saskatchewan

    You’re kidding right.
    Meth head teens and rap music loving Feather Indians.
    Rampant crime. The restless natives are the worst.

  249. TKK says:
    @annamaria

    On a long drive, I could not stop thinking about how smart your point is.

    Instead of putting him on the cover of Time or some BS, talk shows, women saying he is sex symbol (???) – not one journalist asked him the question:

    Why weren’t we prepared? You had 26 years to prepare.

    I am ashamed I did not think of this, but you are DEAD ON THE MONEY.

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  250. GreatKhan says:

    Your father didn’t know PCR is a Trump lover. That’s a low for him.

  251. bjondo says:
    @Pft

    Dems are said to mail in.

    Lotta excuses graciously provided by Dems. 99.98% are BS like #19.

    This excuse allows unlimited fake ballots
    copied from the unlimited creation of
    out-of-thin-air money by the Fed.

    Trump did clean the Dems clock by minimum 15 mill votes.

    Dont see fraud. Open eyes or reject payment.

    Even with all the Dems’ crookedness, Trump wins.

  252. @Pft

    I don’t see any real evidence of systematic fraud.

    Let me help you see the light.

    Compare the increase in turnout from 2012 to 2016 (no fraud) to 2016 to 2020 (massive fraud).

    Pick any states you want.

    It is best for you to do the work yourself–it is the best way to learn.

  253. @Christophe GJ

    I don’t get it. How is this good for “israel”?

  254. @utu

    Sweden’s getting smoked by this harvester of the post octogenarian section of humanity is it? Here’s someone working at the medical coal face, with the most up to date and first hand knowledge of the state of the “ore”….. https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/10/31/a-history-of-the-swedish-covid-response/ …..and gosh darn it if it doesn’t seem to match up at all with the descriptions from tediously dramatic Chicken Little types squawking and flapping around, who are nowhere near the event being discussed, yet always close to the ears of those wanting news.

    The comment section is a ray of sunshine to boot.

    • Thanks: mark green
  255. @Ultrafart the Brave

    There was a wonderful little video back in some other election (GWB vs wotsisface?), which showed a Diehard machine accepting someone’s vote, or rather wrestling the cursor over to the “preferred” candidate. And if you managed to whizz the cursor over to click on Mr Balumney, the next screen shows “Thank you for voting for GWB.”

    Even more subtle (!), you smoothly vote for the other guy, get the “Voted for the other guy” screen, but the little counter adds one to GWB.

    “Do you REALLY want to close macrosaft?”

  256. ivan says:
    @Ghali

    Harris would be told go to the kitchen as the women Warren, Hillary and Michelle who have real popularity take over. I don’t think Kamala will be anything more than a figurehead as she lacks the authority within her own party. The Democrat grandees foisted Kamala on Biden. They’ll make sure she understands that.

  257. @Ghali

    You are insanely misinformed.

    jews are NOT white and they do not identify as white.

    In fact, generally speaking, organized jewry is viciously and relentlessly anti-white.

    Kamala Harris DESPISES white people with every fiber of her being. She is the most radical Senator of all and her “policies” are nothing but anti-white discrimination codified.

    Go back and look at any of the congressional hearings where she was allowed to browbeat some poor white male official. She nearly made Jeff Sessions shit his pants. She accused Brett Kavanaugh of being a serial rapist.

    The women is an evil bitch, sent from the bowels of hell.

    Yeah, she’s a huge asset to white Americans!

  258. But both the RNC and DNC have proven to be terrorists that are guilty of high crimes and treason. First the inside job of 9/11, and now the Health Scare Scamdemic. Anyone that is supporting either candidate after all that has transpired is most likely a terrorist that is guilty of financial fraud, or a low information voter, or an unsensible person. 

    If a diner offers shit on rye bread or shit on whole wheat, the choice is obviously not to go to that diner! 

    Why it is that people fail to view politicians in that context has me confounded! Because those are currently the only two options! Or, add a third, shit on pumpernickel, as Martial Law, or add a fourth as shit on white bread as corporate fascism, add a fifth, shit on corn bread for socialism! Regardless of the bread, it is still a shit sandwhich! All of the options consist of tyranny and are a war on liberty and the individual! 

    The only worth while option has not been offered! To prosecute corruption and restore liberty as the Bill of Rights demands! 

    Andrea Iravani

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  259. dually says:
    @Anonius

    (a) The entire “… the CCP virus …” is unrelated…
    (b) “… the fireworks haven’t yet begun …” is true – and they undoubtedly never will

    Please quit with the self-contradictory double-speak. The metaphorical military “fireworks” began when you unleashed a weaponized virus on the US.

    • Replies: @Anonius
  260. dimples says:
    @haha

    “The bad thing may be that the US state will now will be – and perceived to be – very unpredictable and unbelievable and may, therefore, undertake wild risks in military confrontations abroad. ”

    I think you have been living in an hallucination for many years. The US state has always been like this.

  261. ivan says:
    @Miro23

    Someone uploaded 138.000 votes for Biden with none going to Trump or the other candidates, yet the supervisors did not find anything suspicious. When called out by outside observers it was just an “honest mistake”. Either the quality of these people is much below average or the they were in the game to begin with. A clerk in a bank would account for even a five cents difference by the end of the day, but these vote counters would let a herd of elephants pass through without noticing anything.

    • Replies: @Katrinka
  262. @nsa

    Has anyone here considered the possibility that the pre-election polls may actually have been accurate, but the results jiggered by some entity surreptitiously hacking the voting machines and/or tabulation software en masse across the country?

    I would think that, for Americans, there is a pressing need to get to the bottom of what is going on, irrespective of partisan bias.

    It’s quite obvious that the supposed free & fair elections currently underway in the USA, are neither free nor fair. Someone is gaming the system, and so clumsily that it’s readily apparent to even casual observation.

    If the common folk don’t care enough to get this straightened out and identify the source(s) of mischief, then why even pretend to have a democracy?

  263. @Harold Smith

    OK. Most grown adults can frame an argument here. I see that you incapable of doing so.

    You claimed my post was a “misleading cliche” but are unable to show how this is the case. Perhaps the yahoo message boards will reopen soon, and you can return to arguing with children.

    Smell you later, little one.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  264. @G J T

    Jews had nothing to do with the idea or formation of democracy “greece” and certainly nothing to do with the establishment of the United States. You’re talking out of your ass.
    Jews this Jews that it’s all the fault of the Jews. Yeah Jews are a problem and always have been for the west but white Europeans have stood by and let it all happen. The only white European who actually did anything to solve the Jewish problem is Hitler.
    White Europeans have allowed Jews to play, them. At the end of the day, white Europeans have no one to blame but themselves. And I happen to be of white European decent.

  265. John1955 says:
    @Christophe GJ

    =If you make a random draw of 100 children in a school of 1000 children with the same proportion of boys and girls the probability that there is only girls or only boys is close to zero.=

    It is called “sampling without replacement” or ” draw without replacement”
    If you just look for an answer you may use online calculator:

    https://www.dcode.fr/picking-probabilities

    =In fact it is : (1/2) multiplied 100 times by itself.=
    =Sorry Maybe I made a little mistake in my example but not big. If you draw a boy, there is one less in the school so the next has little smaller probability of being a boy.=

    🙂

    Why try to invent the wheel ? Please look up “sampling without replacement” formula and how it was arrived at more than 300 years ago.

    • Troll: Badger Down
    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
  266. Duh! Every election is “stolen”. Rich capitalists own them all, and all the media, tough to beat that. No one who will actually change anything for the better would ever be approved by the CIA and thus never be elected. Most will be killed or imprisoned before even getting their name out there.

    It is what it is I reckon. Don’t understand why people keep doing this same thing over and over again. The very least you can do is vote 3rd party. Don’t know why anyone wants to make excuses for Trump, he made his bed. He could have at least pushed for some popular policies to appeal to Independent voters, he chose conservatism but with more buttsex instead. Not a winner clearly.

    He could have did something on 9/11 or even ended 1 war, free Assange Snowden or Manning, instead he and his bunch of Neocons started assassinating good men, trying to starve Venezuela, Nicaragua Yemen and Syria among others. Trump can go fuck himself as can Biden. Both teams have the same owner you bloody retards. Get off da Republicrat plantation!

    Sounds like we got a Russiagate T-tard version coming up! Who will get the blame? The Chicoms or the Mullahs? Tune into Hannity to find out!

    • Thanks: Biff
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  267. Americus says:

    Could Trump demand and SCOTUS order new elections in disputed swing states, in person voting only, no mail in, and with a Red and Blue observer taking custody of and counting the ballots before reporting precinct totals?

    Another safeguard: each ballot has a serial number and the voter gets a stub with that number on it.
    Publish all the serial numbers (without info about the voter) on the internet as a large text or pdf file, by precinct, with only the ballot number and Trump or Biden next to it. AS well as the totals for each candidate by precinct and for the state. Divide the big file into smaller files, one per precinct or district, for faster access.
    Then each voter can go online and locate his vote on the list from the number on his stub, and report any discrepancy. That way you still have a secret ballot which voters can check for accuracy.
    But these should be public, complete, long lists, with plenty of different ballot numbers on them, accessible to every internet user. Not some app where you can only look up your own number, without any subtotals oe group data, because that could be fiddled.

    Also have the repeat voting on the weekend so most people don’t have to take off work.
    No mail-ins due to the fraud risk.

  268. @Johnny Walker Read

    now being used to steal one in America.

    Now? As if it hasn’t been used previously?

    The general, himself, said in the interview that Obama used it in 2012. Which is interesting confirmation because I remember that election night so well. I was watching the results on the telly from about 6 PM on. At 10:15 or something, Fox News called the election for Obama – stunning Karl Rove who was on set and incredulous as he had been keeping up with the math himself. He began describing how that finality couldn’t be the case yet but, they maintained their call and I had noticed just before they did so that there had been a huge jump in the vote totals, all at once, for Obama. Whereas Romney had been in a solid lead for an hour+. I called a friend and said, “I absolutely think the election was just stolen” and described what happened. Rove was in a daze, he couldn’t compute what had just occurred.

    That’s how the general described it would happen this time….that Trump would be ahead handsomely and then a big batch of votes would flip it to Biden. And that’s what happened but, this time, they waited til overnight and the ensuing day to do it.

    We have so many politicians that are in office thru theft elections. Circumstances were fishy for the newly-elected Gov of my last state in 2016 and AGAIN in 2019 in the state where I now live. Both are Dems who unseated perfectly competent Repub incumbent Govs by less than 5000 votes!

  269. Can they take over a country and then seize control of the lives of everyone in that country, with little pieces of paper?

    Yes, that is now possible.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  270. Vojkan says:
    @Iris

    That’s fine but there’s a glitch. See comment #55. That only Biden’s numbers violate Newcomb-Benford’s law, and to a very large extent, is very hard to explain.

    • Thanks: Iris
  271. More than an election featuring strong actual enthusiasm for Trump on many campaign stops, and many fraudulent-vote crime-scenes, November is the latest chapter in a long seditious saga: the long coup, featuring over the last four years the coup against Trump.

    Recall that for the past four years and even during the 2016 election process, the FBI and elements of the CIA and DOJ were mobilized very directly against President Trump, and served in effect as weaponized assets of the Democratic Party. There are many explanations for that.

    For example, was not Hillary Clinton in 2016 heard lamenting that Trump’s victory could be fatal to her and her ilk? That sounds much like an unforced confession of serious crimes. And 9/11 as obvious treasonous black operation is still there to haunt the perpetrators.

    But more generally, recall that Trump’s 2016 Inaugural speech contained rebuke of the establishment and the promise to transfer political power to the people. And he was the antiwar candidate, yes seasoned with suitably bellicose verbiage, but still, questioning the imperial project.

    And he spoke as a patriot, not a globalist. Not the kind of thing David Rockefeller and influential others with wet dreams of ruling the earth would have lauded. And patriotism is not quite a good fit for the ongoing agendas of global ‘Full Spectrum Domination’.

    After Trump’s 2016 victory, the immediate impetus in mass media, in Europe as well as North America was extreme and constant hostility towards Trump. Indeed, by the time 2018 arrived, Trump had been fast-tracked into very select company: a leading candidate for ‘most demonized person’ of the last century; his closest competitors Hitler and Putin, with Stalin lately stalling. (What else do these people have in common?)

    In 2020, after years of chewing daily on the Russiagate nothing burger, mass media discovered a new narrative. There was a plague upon us. The economy must be shut down. Masks were to be worn so as to reduce oxygen to the brain. And just about anything that died was deemed the plague’s fault. And somehow that was all Trump’s fault.

    And to top it all off, in the months approaching the election, suddenly it was verboten to say all lives matter, but some color of lives do matter, and peaceful protests looted thousands of stores and burned down thousands of buildings, and there were wild fires in California, and it was somehow all Trump’s fault, because among other things he did not speak out forcefully against the necessary exhalation product CO2 as overpowering all else and driving us towards climate doom.

    The constant negative portrayal of Trump had its wide effects, reaching far beyond the borders of the US, and even evident here locally in the wilds of Canada. To wit, the electricity consumption meter-reading guy in conversation offered that hydroxychloroquine was likely ineffective against the much-dreaded plague-thing because Trump had endorsed it. And it is not unusual, in the local newspapers, when ‘journalists’ are lacking in other inspirations, for them to take superior jeering shots at that loathsome orange demon south of the border.

    But in the alternative media, Trump has many boosters. And thus, a coup being a coup, just before the election, many citizen journalists, some who had each gained hundreds of thousands of subscribers and who had in common a positive or more nuanced approach to the Trump phenomenon, were purged from social media. The President himself and family members and close allies have been censored. Search engines did their part to hinder Trump and help Biden. Compelling evidence of Biden family corruption was censored in most media. But still the people love Trump. Campaign stop after campaign stop the people came, plague or no plague, in the tens of thousands cheering. Masked and pacing Joe Biden turned a few heads after some cars honked their horns in his vicinity.

    In short, there has been an actual long coup underway, ‘war by other means’ has been going on in the United States for far longer than four years. The events of 9/11 were a coup. And JFK’s public execution was a coup.

    In the light of a long coup process including much murder most foul, extensive voting fraud is completely predictable. The Establishment, the Swamp, the Cesspool, will do what Cesspool denizens do. What remains to be seen is how the citizens that in the tens of millions want Trump as President and know in their hearts that he won the election will respond. And what role the Supreme Court will play.

    But beyond all that, the Trump phenomenon is an indication that the power of the lying and censoring mass media to control the perceptions of the people is as yet far from absolute. I have found it interesting that on several occasions people have privately confessed to me they find things to admire in Trump – but they did so tentatively, with lowered voice, as in: I am entering into forbidden public territory. And they say sensible things.

    • Thanks: Polemos
  272. Vojkan says:
    @Polemos

    In the same time period in Europe, you had the Hanseatic League, Venice and Genoa. Sorry, but I put that higher on the civilisation scale than a clean city that practiced sacrificing humans to gods. The argument of city size as evidence of higher civilisation is non sequitur.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  273. gkruz says:

    “If Kamala Harris becomes president, we will have in the Oval Office a female of color who hates white people and is vindictive against them.”
    A woman rides the Beast…

  274. Dems cheating Bernie in 2016 in the primaries was rehearsal for this.

    • Agree: Iris, annamaria, Derer
    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  275. Anonius says:
    @dually

    You claim “… the fireworks haven’t yet begun …” while in the same breath claim that “… “fireworks” began …”. Tell us, which one is it? Make up your mind, if it isn’t too much.

    • Replies: @dually
  276. Americus says:

    Could Atty Genl Barr charge Biden & Harris for felony fraud charges in federal court?
    give them two terms behind bars.
    would the MSM and FB and Twit censor that story…

    • Thanks: annamaria
  277. @Just another serf

    Dollars?
    That is SO antisemitic!

    • Replies: @Just another serf
  278. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Major holidays, family funerals, sporting events, weddings, dining-out, classrooms, and so on have ALL been seriously changed by Covidzilla. We’ve been hectored to give up ‘normalcy.” So why exclude presidential elections? Why must they remain unaltered?

    Trump should demand a re-vote in June with only absentee-ballots allowed via mail. Everything else must be in-person.

    Exceptional times, exceptional changes.

    Plus 4Chan and hacker-groups should monitor the vote-counting software to avoid fraud.

  279. @TKK

    Usually, the head of an organisation is the dominant figure or one of them, Roberts is shifty and unimpressive. He has been totally overshadowed by his underlings like Scalia and Ginsburg. It may be because he is just weak and corrupt or it may be he is being blackmailed or both.
    As you say, he is a disgusting sight.

  280. @AReply

    You are the kind of hypodrite that nobody likes. You wail about the grivences that whites have and then wail about whites. I am surprised that your trailer park has internet.

  281. yurivku says:
    @anon

    Never Give Up, Never Surrender!, that was Trump’s motto. Fight this to the bitter end!

    what’s good in all that merikan comedy show – it’s that in any case any next POTUS will be with limited legitimacy. That’s perfect for continuing demolition of Empire.

    So don’t stop, never surrender, keep fighting to the bitter end!

  282. yurivku says:
    @Poco

    I’d like to know why Putin and his Rooshians didn’t use their invisible rooskie mind control rays to tip the election to Trump.

    Actually, we did. But concept has changed, now our goal to put US on total mess. And here it is.

    • LOL: acementhead
  283. @haha

    Basically agreed. However, I think the chaos in the US will become just bad enough for Joe Sixpack to perceive the gradually increasing influence of China as salubrious. The Chinese are not going for utter destruction but for “takeover with the tacit consent of the taken-over”… more money to be made that way. Nevertheless, I think by now there is a real perspective of a remake of “The Sand Pebbles” featuring a Houbei-class missile boat on the Mississippi.
    NB: Living in Europe, which has for decades been kept orderly by US power, I do not like this scenario at all. No matter how hypocritical the US have been all the time, their influence used to be a reliable constant; it being gone, pretty soon we will find ourselves in a situation where the French want to finalize their overlordship and the Germans get tired of paying.

  284. Emslander says:
    @Syd Walker

    Equally plausible is a rather obvious explanation that Paul Craig Roberts deftly avoids mentioning: Trump is a crude, narcissistic and deeply unattractive plutocrat who may have established a cult-like following but who’s disliked by a majority of Americans (along with his billionaire-friendly economic policies). Among other possible factors are the fact that Trump’s environmental policies are so appalling they’d embarrass Richard Nixon and his America-alone approach to global politics is puerile and seen to be such by a majority of Americans?

    Equally plausible as the other equally plausible things you have in mind is the theory that all things are true at the same time.

    Trump is the worst President in history. He is as demented as any other 74-year old financial fraud in America, but in different ways than Joe Biden is demented.

    The electoral college majority was legitimately won in 2020 by the worst president in history.

    Biden and his Democrats are cheating, lying, controlling thought and preparing worldwide house arrest to put their theft into effect.

  285. Dougnhou says: • Website

    I think we need a do-over election in all the contested states. If necessary, Trump should declare a national emergency (Insurrection Act) to organize the national guard to supervise a re-election in those states. They should bypass any computer or terminal and use scan-able cards (like we used to use to take tests using a No. 2 pencil) so that the results can be scanned and quickly determined.

    The guard can ask for voter ID to verify if someone is registered. No hanky panky this time.

    This is necessary for the integrity of our democracy. If it happens to show that the Dems cheated, that too is necessary to uncover. If the re-do shows the same results, then Trump can apologize to the nation.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • LOL: Emslander
  286. AKindle says:

    Ahem…El Trumpo and the GOP had 4 years to deal with ballot and voter fraud…didn’t do anything. Now he complains? The fact that he couldn’t win decisively against a corpse and a woman who is less popular than Hillary speaks volumes to the failure of his Presidency and his candidacy. The fact is he couldn’t turn out the white vote. fraud is not the reason. His pandering and ego just got too disgusting. Trump must be really glad that he freed all the black criminals from prison. It’s really payed off. He deserved to lose!

    • Agree: Emslander
  287. Trickster says:
    @Alfred

    Anatoly Karlin wrote an article on UR today and I venture to say he was one of those kids who flunked his 2 to 12 times tables. Either that or while he was playing with his sword it went up his arse and damaged his brain. Hope you enjoy his earth shattering thesis complete with charts and graphs.

    You will enjoy his avant garde, new age blend of calculus, statistics and bullshit.

  288. @No Friend Of The Devil

    Out of chaos comes great opportunity.

    Trump could release all the blackmail files held by the intelligence agencies on every member of Congress and the bureaucracy–on the Internet all over the world.

    Once the files are released, the kleptocracy is brought to its knees–it would be impossible for special interests to blackmail them.

    _Everyone_ (except the kleptocrats) should want that.

    Extra bonus points–release the blackmail files on the European and other leaders.

    Their citizens have a right to end their kleptocracies as well.

    • Agree: Black Picard, annamaria
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Black Picard
  289. @c matt

    Why would anyone send money in the mail when there are dozens of other methods available? Voting knows only 2 options: in person or by mail. So why would anyone NOT vote by mail?

    • Replies: @Polemos
  290. @John1955

    Right. And to emphasize, your corrected methodology makes the skewed result even less likely. I believe sampling without replacement would also matter more versus a naive approach as the sample size became larger vis-a-vis the population, a 30k block of votes out of 100k cast in a precinct for instance.

    But what happens when the underlying proportion of votes within the population is only estimated rather than known with precision? I assume you can still use sampling without replacement with some error term then?

    • Replies: @John1955
  291. @Incitatus

    Newsflash PCR. Kushner Companies borrowed $850 million in multiple government backed loans (Freddie Mac) to buy 6-7,000 real estate properties in Maryland and Virginia.

    This is a very “anti-semitic” fact. Noticing it is a hate crime, you evil not-see White supreemist bigot. And don’t even think about mentioning the whole 666 Park Avenue refinancing issue. That would be like anuddah shoah all over again.

    Please try to let go off your mindless hatred for the Tribe of Innocent Victims, so you can be a Good Goy again. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @annamaria
  292. John1955 says:
    @Negrolphin Pool

    =with some error term then?=

    During the ’60 JFK vs RN election they used to call this error term “graveyard vote”
    Thats what we see in 2020 only on a much larger scale.
    Daniel Jason Lemoyne,born in 1850,just cast his vote for Mr.Biden in Michigan.

    This error term can be calculated by comparing ballots with Social Security Death Index database.

  293. @c matt

    I am afraid Sweden is currently suffering. Also its death rate is worse that its fellow Nordic countries.
    You need to get up to speed.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Emslander
  294. Polemos says:
    @Vojkan

    They also practiced cannibalism and used human body parts as decoration and embellishments, and through their ritual offering of their local ruler maintained significant order in their societies. You might have a personal reason for thinking “higher civilization” excludes ritual human sacrifice, but then a contemporary Europe allowed for the ritual human sacrifice of the Christ at Mass, where the loyal and faithful people who relied on their Father’s Son as their intercessor participated in ritual cannibalism through crushing His body in their own mouths and drinking His blood. That it is actually the metaphysical essence of a living human being they are killing and devouring was something those same Europeans fought among themselves to clarify, so would you say the Europeans didn’t understand they were thinking of the Eucharist this way? They then adorned their homes and the public streets with displays of the tortured and murdered corpse of the Christ on the Cross, kneeling before the crucifixion as reminders that they deserve the wrath of God if not for the willing gift of the flesh and blood.

    Maybe it is true that there is an evolution at work where Christians slowly glossed over the ignominy of what they believe about the relationship between themselves and the God who demands they too crush Him between teeth and eat Him for life everlasting, but we should not ignore the logic at work here.

    That said, maintaining the material needs of a city the size of Tenochtitlan at its height — 400k — can’t be written off as savagery or inferiority, whereas Paris in the 1500s maintained a little more than half that, according to this site. That site also shows the cities you cite (setting aside the League) are either a fourth to an eighth the size.

    I am not convinced that its “non sequitur” to discuss a civilization’s height via the sustained size and hygiene and order of its population. Moving around waste and resources efficiently seems one of the defining aspects of what we call civilization today. Cleaning up the raised streets and ditches in the middle of a swamp, using mathematical principles aligned to the constellations and astral cycles of the heavens to lay down the gridwork of a massive city: that’s not higher civilization but inferior savagery? Hmm. But, you didn’t actually say what it was about Genoa, Venice or the League that sets them apart from issues of scale and economy, just that you personally set them higher on account of a lack of human sacrifice. Was it their art, their architecture, their literature, their myths, their ability to navigate worldwide that you find superior? Or, was it their banking and mercantile approach, with finance as the mark of evolved humanity?

    For me, I’m not convinced that today’s cities of squalor such as Los Angeles or San Francisco or New York or Detroit or Atlanta model higher civilization. Dirt, filth, disorder, corruption: don’t people think this is what inferior life is synonymous with? If cities evolve into such, don’t folks say that’s unfortunate and seek to leave them, moving out and away? It seems the logic of many is precisely that efficiencies, cleanliness, and order are where they feel they thrive. I can get behind seeing the sacrifice of living beings as a wayward misunderstanding of what calls humans to live as their higher selves, and starting as the renunciation of killing human scapegoats goes in that direction towards higher life. But I also think if that’s the case, then we need to also go further and see all killing of life and beings this way, and do away with consuming animals and all the industries associated with the ritual consumption of life as holiday event — turkeys on the table for USAians, e. g.

    I appreciate you stepping in for Genrick Yagoda, but you can see that his perspective is fairly limited. He might not even appreciate your input, but I do and thank you for it. 🙏 No need to apologize for having a viewpoint, Vojkan!

  295. Polemos says:
    @ReneMartin

    So why would anyone NOT vote by mail?

    As someone who regularly tracks items moving through the USPS, I offer the wisdom of experience and knowledge. Not all packages reach their destination, particularly around “crunch time.” They do their best, and sometimes that is exactly where the problem is.

  296. Emslander says:
    @StarDasher

    What do you gain by lying in a comments section of a webzine. Sweden’s deaths per day have been in the single digits since July. Their “case” count goes up, because the CIA is over there testing everybody and their sick dog. Deaths would be the only measure of “suffering”. Its death rate is nearly at a statistical zero.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @acementhead
  297. Polemos says:
    @Polemos

    … whereas Paris in the 1500s maintained a little more than half that, according to this site. That site also shows the cities you cite (setting aside the League) are either a fourth to an eighth the size.

    The anchor tag didn’t take, but here’s the site I had linked to:
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1021988/thirty-largest-cities-western-europe-1500/

  298. I’m not a Republican Mr. Roberts, I’m a “deplorable”. Joe won nothing. Looks like the best way out is a second vote. A mulligan. That is even too generous to the fraudsters, but we can let that go for now. Just tee it up again. We’ll see who’s in the fairway, and who’s “in the linen”.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  299. @Genrick Yagoda

    OK. Most grown adults can frame an argument here. I see that you incapable of doing so.

    The only thing that you can likely “see,” goofball, are your boyfriend’s genitals.

    You claimed my post was a “misleading cliche” but are unable to show how this is the case.

    Not quite; rather, there is no need for me to refute here (for the Nth time) the kind of absurd drivel you’ve posted, as it is compellingly self-refuting.

    Perhaps the yahoo message boards will reopen soon, and you can return to arguing with children.

    A discussion with an honest child would be a big improvement over a pointless exchange with an infantile, butt-hurt, jew-supremacist liar like you Shlomo.

    • Troll: Genrick Yagoda
  300. @Polemos

    I didn’t reply, because anyone who thinks those shovel faced primitives in loin cloths created those pyramids and floating gardens is so dumb as to be not worth responding to.

    The aboriginals may have been living there when the Spanish arrived, but they were living in something created by an earlier civilization. They themselves couldn’t manage anything more than a mud shack.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @glib
    , @Polemos
  301. @Thomas Milton

    The only folks who think this election was legit are the sociopaths and the morons.

  302. anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    BIDEN BEATS TRUMP!!!!!

    https://www.nytimes.com

    Lol! Schadenfreude is so sweet!!

    BY A LOT?! Rofl!

    Such a whiny-wanker… a true “leader” for all rightwing whiny-wankers! Smh!

    Check these out;

    https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/hindu-sena-prays-for-donald-trumps-win-in-us-elections-to-keep-china-pakistan-in-check-3038054.html

    And, this whiny-wanker who wanked to the Orangutan so much, that he was heartbroken… R.I.Hell man!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/world/asia/india-trump-fan-dies.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/indian-man-fast-trump-covid-coronavirus-death-b984420.html

    But, you wank… er, I mean fellows, don’t take it personally. 😀

    • Replies: @Poco
  303. Dumbo says:

    All this just means that the mask is off, or, considering the Fakedemic context, on.

    America now is just officially the seat of Globalists-Satanists.
    It will still do untold damage before it falls down.

  304. The REAL ISSUE is voter suppression via withholding news about Joe Biden and his son, Hunter. The MSM refused to cover it and Big Tech helped them cover it up by shutting down the TRUTH. That interfering with an election should cause the Supreme Court to give Biden a 10% penalty and award the win to President Trump.

  305. @Christophe GJ

    They expected to win easily last time. They probably came to believe their own lies. This time they were taking no chances.

  306. dually says:
    @Anonius

    You claim … while in the same breath claim that…

    That will be enough pilpul for one thread, thanks anyway.

  307. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    Britain has never been a ally of America. Trump was a threat to them so they needed to makesure Biden won. They are so threatened by having the US be independent it’s there worst nightmare.

  308. @Begemot

    I can conclude nothing from the extraction of your sources, which are nothing more than Ron Unz’ moniker, American Pravda. Your entire comment is a throwaway. I am sure there are reputable sources who can interpolate and project the number of illegal alien votes, disqualified votes (e.g., out of state, multiple votes from single individuals, dead people, write-in fraud from sent out mail votes, etc, etc, etc.

    All in all, a comment that exudes lassitude and insolence. You obviously want some others to do the spade work for you. Here’s a link from a much better empirical and inductive source:

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/05/reports-of-election-fraud-keep-piling-up-in-michigan-whats-going-on/

  309. @redmudhooch

    Can you show me any instances of our people doing anything close to that? I guess not.

    Classic projection.

    It’s not even close to being over, darlin’.

    Keep a pair of clean panties handy, sugar britches.

  310. Katrinka says:
    @ivan

    Most of the poll workers in the offending precincts are black. They know that nothing will happen to them because the system has their back. Crime pays.

  311. The Dem’s rigging team will need a good talking to tomorrow. Sure, they fixed it for Biden but they were expected to prevail in several “battle ground” states that they lost. That is no way to build a mandate. You have to wonder why they let four of their House members go down. They were expected to take control of the Senate but only won a single seat. Why didn’t the team come through for the Dem’s Senate candidates? Why did the riggers decide to take three states by less than .6 of one percent? How did they take Georgia, a state where Republicans control almost everything and why did they decide to be satisfied with a .15 margin?

  312. @Emslander

    Deaths would be the only measure of “suffering”.

    “Deaths” is a terrible measure of the impact of covid19(or any other untoward event or process). The best measure, by far, is Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost. This has been a standard measure for many years(dunno how long, but well established). The authorities world-wide refuse to even mention QALY because it would clearly show that the “lockdown” insanity has at least two orders of magnitude worse impact than the Swedish response. Economic damage causes early death and misery.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  313. @Begemot

    A sober and scientific assessment of bias results.

  314. I tried to comment on Anatoly Karlin’s bullshit, but it seems the Russian gayboy who likes Cuties has banned me.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  315. Norvak says:

    First comes despair, then anger, then seething, then action. Red-staters are at the “anger” stage now. If fraud is not resolved honestly, ……

  316. glib says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    whereas you guys have gone to the moon, right? impervious to all that radiation in the VAB. If this is not proof of a superior, non superstitious civilization, I don’t know what is.

    • LOL: Iris
  317. @Justsaying

    Top comment – couldn’t agree more.
    You’d think that in any viable democracy that you should have more than 2 major parties to give voters some real choice. But not in America. There is absolutely not much difference between the red & blue team.

    The joke has always been on the ignorant American sheep. In fact, most of them shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all because they always make dumb choices. For kriss sakes, vote 3rd Party for once in your fcuking lives and really shake things up. Green Party, Libertarian…it’s only for 4 years.

  318. geokat62 says:

    • Replies: @geokat62
  319. Incitatus says:
    @James Forrestal

    ‘Newsflash PCR. Kushner Companies borrowed $850 million in multiple government backed loans (Freddie Mac) to buy 6-7,000 real estate properties in Maryland and Virginia.’
    “This is a very “anti-semitic” fact. Noticing it is a hate crime, you evil not-see White supreemist bigot. And don’t even think about mentioning the whole 666 Park Avenue refinancing issue. That would be like anuddah shoah all over again.
    Please try to let go off your mindless hatred for the Tribe of Innocent Victims, so you can be a Good Goy again. Thanks.”

    Actually PCR’s fear of “a President [Biden] covered in criminal scandal” is long past the retail expiration date, given Donald J. Trump and his family. It’s not just Kushner and Ivanka.

    Donald Junior’s magnum opus ‘Triggered: How the Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us’ climbed the NYT bestseller list largely due to bulk orders by nine Republican organizations (including the RNC and RNCC) prior to release. GOP donors made the man (age 42) a star author. He otherwise lacks meaningful employment outside his multiple-bankruptcy father, a résumé that includes heading Trump Mortgage (failed in one year).

    Naturally, Junior attacks the Left, given the hellish adversity he’s faced in life in a deadbeat family that pays little or no tax. No need to mention his August 2019 Mongolian hunting trip ($79,000+ taxpayer expense) to shoot endangered Argaili sheep (killing sheep proves he’s manly?).

    Chip off the block. Donald senior August 2016: “I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to go play golf.” Four years later? Trump’s logged 283 daytime visits to (mostly his own) golf courses (20.7% of his presidency, 1.5 days/week) at $141 million taxpayer cost. A record! Secret Service room charges at Trump resorts ($600/night) directly benefit the president.

    Old news to PCR, well acclimated (like Pat Bucahnnan) to blindly perfume GOP rot in the endless DC moronic cycle of competing swamp monsters drawing government pensions (many of whom have 501c3 charities designed to compensate them for heroically ‘educating’ unwashed Americans).

  320. @Badger Down

    Took me a moment to puzzle that out. But good point.

  321. @Rahan

    Those god damn conniving Brits are the biggest shit disturbers of them all:

    New Revelations Shed Light on British Hand Behind Five Eyes – by Matthew Ehret

    [MORE]

    Since British Intelligence has been very effective at crafting the myth that the British Empire disappeared after WWII, only to be replaced by the American Empire, many onlookers still find themselves confused when confronted by these revelations and have great difficulty understanding the currently active British Hand running America’s deep state. These onlookers are confused by the Rhodes Scholars that run Brookings, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Five Eyes or Wall Street. I would here like to offer a few helpful historical lessons to correct this confusion.

    To properly answer the question: “How is the British Hand governing the world today”, it is vital to jump back in time to the founder of the Rhodes Scholar program. This exercise will take us to Cecil Rhodes, former Governor of Rhodesia, father of systemic colonial rape of Africa and all around degenerate.

    Here we shall find ourselves looking at this imperialist’s 1877 will and testament. It was here that the self-described “race patriot” and “priest of the Church of the British Empire” called for a re-organization of the decaying empire when he said:
    “I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race… Why should we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilized world under British rule, for the recovery of the United States, and for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire…

    source: https://theduran.com/new-revelations-shed-light-on-british-hand-behind-five-eyes/

    The Cossack, 006, was right all along in Golden Eye. But Captain Euro, James Bond, saved the day – unfortunately. Would’ve love to see a modern day Golden Eye unleashed on the City of London taking it back to the Stone Age for all the treachery it has done to the world – especially in Africa. But that’s just me. Carry on!

  322. anon[184] • Disclaimer says:

    The thing about the supreme court order, it’s just Alito, that crooked wop hack, and it will have to be validated or not by the full supreme court, or by one of the other crooked perv hacks. So it could be reversed at any point. All CIA has to do is remind Alito what they did to the other wop at Cibolo Creek Ranch, and he will vote what he’s told.

    CIA will at some point tell the court stay out of all the ballot-stuffing and granny farming and Dominion backdooring they did. That way the parties can extort a result out of the electors in secret.

    Trump can counter only by digging up abuse of function by CIA’s chosen puppet Biden. That’s graymail, as bagman Hunter can tell you, because emails show he knew he was running errands for “Little Creek” (Camp Peary.) The only trustworthy help Trump’s going to get is from Biden’s business partners in China, Russia, Ukraine. Trump can get that under UNCAC Article 38 and CTOC Article 18. But he needs to get on it now.

  323. Mr Jew says:

    We can take a major portion of the country away from them. https://redstatesecession.org/

  324. Rdm says:
    @Christophe GJ

    There’s always cheating in votes counting unless it’s strictly electronic and the said electronics shouldn’t be tampered with.

    It’s not about pro-Biden or pro-Trump or “been blue thru and thru” or “always red” camp. It’s about statistics and how it manipulates people’s mind.

    To give you an example without deep diving into damn lie statistics, here’s a simple observation we can make. In any independent observations, central limit theorem (CLT) dictates that everything comes to the middle and generate a normal distribution. This is independent observation and normal distribution.

    Now let’s imagine you go and ask people on the streets if they like Blue color, either “Yes” or “No” answer, you’re most likely to get some interesting data. The data would be definitely skewed because either you’d get way more than 50% or way less than 50%. There won’t be any situation like almost 50.9% of people like blue or 49.1% of people answer “No” to Blue color preference. That’s uncanny and CLT dictates that that’s not independent observations. That’s because Color Preference is not normally distributed. It’s not natural. It’s personal preference.

    Let’s look at the voting now.

    [MORE]

    California (Biden won) [clear winner]
    Biden : 8,098,039 (65.5%)
    Trump: 4,085,899 (37.8%)
    count difference: 4,012,140 out of 12.1 million counts
    That’s 33.4% degree of freedom.

    Texas (Trump won) [clear winner]
    Biden: 5,211,603 (46.4%)
    Trump : 5,860,494 (52.2%)
    count difference: 648,891 out of 11 million counts
    That’s 5.9% degree of freedom.

    In any situation, if the degree of freedom is less than 1%, it’s not independent observation. There’s some restrictions and controlled samples.

    Tuesday nights, Trump was bound to sweep over easily. Biden desperately need additional two states to meet 270 electoral votes. He was left with only swing states. Even PA was not in dem’s favor anymore. It was 400,000 vote count difference in PA on Tuesday night. Dem couldn’t manipulate PA as subtle as they can. Of course counting is done by an independent body but everything is string attached.

    So Dem needs to look out for other swing states that they can slowly and subtly drop any supposedly Trump ballots as “illegitimate” by giving any excuses like incomplete form, missing last name, etc. They can also do so for Biden as well. But as we see, some swing states are purposely left counting so that the counting body can see the situation completely and can swing the counting methods.

    Next day, Biden won Wisconson, followed by Michigan.

    Wisconsin (Biden won) [dubious as fk]
    Biden : 1,630,542 (49.6%)
    Trump: 1,609,734 (48.9%)
    count difference: 20,808 out of ~3.2 millions votes.
    That’s 0.65% degree of freedom for 3.2 million votes.

    Georgia (In progress 99%) [dubious as fk]
    Biden : 2,449,371 (49.4%)
    Trump: 2,448,454 (49.4%)
    count difference = 917 out of 5 millions votes
    That’s 0.018% degree of freedom (or margin of error if you wish) for 5 million votes.

    the degree of freedom in Georgia is so low that you can easily see how it’s controlled sampling, rather than independent sampling. It’s like you go out and ask 100 people if they like banana. It’s not like 50 people like banana and 50 people don’t like banana. It’s not possible with 0.069% degree of freedom to make up for 100 people answer to banana.

    Whenever there’s less than 1% of degree of freedom from the entire samples, it’s controlled sampling.

  325. This is what those filthy cocksuckers got coming.

    Not all sins in this life go unpunished.

    • Replies: @Iris
  326. @glib

    Believe me, I have my doubts about the moon mission. The Van Allan Belt being one of them. Also a mission of that magnitude operating perfectly the first time all of these things have been tried. It certainly leaves room for doubt.

    However, what is beyond doubt is that primitive people with bones through their noses and living in mud huts do not produce fantastic structures. And while the origins of these fantastic structures that are all over the earth is an interesting question, it’s not really on topic.

  327. Yusef says:
    @roonaldo

    “… the Supreme Court thwarted the jurisdiction of the election laws of Florida.”

    Run that by me again…Back in 2000…The Supreme’s thwarted the jurisdiction of the election laws of Florida?

    I was solidly on your frequency right until that statement.

    I especially like, “The Democrat fraud squads have come a long way since their Cook County shenanigans in 1960 gave them Illinois and thus the win. ” Yes, yes they have. They didn’t have software back in those days. They had to go around Chicago area grave yards and such not, and that wasn’t so clean and cool

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  328. Iris says:
    @GeneralRipper

    Wrong example.

    71-year old Ceausescu was hastily executed in an abject and cowardly manner for a crime that never happened: the alleged demonstrators killed at Timisoara were actually random bodies retrieved in a morgue and used to stage the colour revolution.

    Ceausescu died proudly, holding his head up, singing “The International” anthem, and patriotically shouting as last words ‘Long Live the Socialist Republic of Romania. Independent and Free.’ 

    Such courage when meeting death is beyond even comprehension for the pitiful small fry that has recently been serving as presidents of the USA. The terrified face of GW Bush when told about the 9/11 inside job can never be forgotten.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  329. Yusef says:
    @Cauchemar du Singe

    Get on your donkey and charge that windmill, Don Quixote!

    I’m not your Sancho Panza.

    Let’s use our heads and come up with a plan.

    That means coming up with something which we can trust just might work.

  330. @Iris

    GW Bush was fully aware of 9/11. The Bushes, the Clintons etc… Same shit in a different bag.

    Americans know that by now.

    That’s why his pussy Deep State ass didn’t back Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Iris
  331. The desperation of the democrats in this thing is obvious. They have overplayed their hand in the smuggling in of hundreds of thousands of votes while the counting was shut down, mainly because they needed such massive numbers to get a win.

    The capper was in the claims of turnout numbers the likes of which are only seen in 3rd world dictatorships, and in the fact that they are now claiming that Biden got the most votes of any presidential candidate in history. If it’s true that the bigger the lie, the more likely that it will be accepted, then maybe they should have stuck with a single lie instead of piling them up the way they did.

    Taken together the whole reeking pile of lies spells ‘Fraud’ in big enough letters that it can’t be overlooked.

    • Agree: Black Picard
  332. Of the employers included in this analysis, those whose employees tilted the most to Trump were the New York Police Department and the U.S. Marines, with almost 70% of employees who made contributions to one of the two presidential campaigns favoring the incumbent.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/

    That’s what I’m talkin’ about, bitches.

    Semper Fi!

  333. Iris says:
    @GeneralRipper

    GW Bush was fully aware of 9/11.

    You think so?
    That GW Bush was fully aware there was going to be a nuclear holocaust of 3000 innocent American civilians, in a cynical false flag designed in pursuit of imperial expansion serving the 0.1%?

    Somehow, I doubt it.
    I sincerely doubt that those American politicians, WASP or Catholics, who have no replacement country, and whose descendants will continue to be living amongst the American people for generations to come, would have sullied their name and risked their families’ survival in such fashion.

    When the inevitable reckoning of the 9/11 crime against humanity occurs, Silverstein’s children will be looked at as hypothetical Hitler adult children would have been at Nuremberg in 1945.

  334. aspnaz says:

    It shows how utterly stupid the presstitutes are

    Globalisation on the rampage: criminal billionaires fooling the dumb mutton that exporting jobs to China, taking bribes in Ukraine, is all beneficial to the workers.

    Mind you, China is no better, the younger people there are just as moronic: maybe it is education by mobile that results in so many useless, personality-free and compliant morons being happily controlled by amoral authoritarians. Presstitutes are just a small group of the compliant morons.

    The majority of the US people can see through this daylight robbery, however, as with other modern peoples, only very few will even try to do anything to defend their world. The authoritarians will expand their global empire by dragging the US so low that a global authority has to take over, their global authority, then we are rightly done for.

    You get the government you deserve: no fight, no power, no freedom.

  335. That GW Bush was fully aware there was going to be a nuclear holocaust of 3000 innocent American civilians, in a cynical false flag designed in pursuit of imperial expansion serving the 0.1%?

    LOL.. Bitch stfu please.

    9/11 was a Jew Deep State attack.

  336. Erebus says:

    His presidency may well be over, but not before Trump exposes and destroys yet another great American political lie. One can only hope that he fights, and fights so well and so long that it allows him to leave as he arrived – the kind of high energy, larger than life, disruptive anomaly America’s political class has for too long been unable to produce.

    He landed like a hand grenade in his first GOP debate in Aug 2015, and true to form, win or lose, he’ll be leaving a roadside bomb behind when he goes.

    If America ever recovers to become a normal country (or countries), it’ll be because Trump came along. He shattered its illusions for those who would see, and exposed the extent of the work that lay ahead for those who would rebuild.

    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if a badly needed 3rd party coalesced around him and entered the fray in 2024. Perhaps that will prove to be even better than winning in 2020.

    • Agree: Wally
    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Biff
  337. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:

    Iris, 342, ha, that’s nothin’, you should see how little his mouth got when they told him about ‘Angel is next.’

    • Replies: @Iris
  338. Poco says:
    @anonymous

    Trump is a left winger.

  339. annamaria says:
    @Justvisiting

    If Mr. T. decides to clean in earnest the Augeas stables of MIC/intelligence agencies, he and his family will be exterminated in no time.

    The woke ‘progressives’ have found their best friends in the CIA & FBI. In New York, Bosotn, and Los Angeles, there is ongoing loud celebrations of the cognitively-deficient (and famously corrupt) bureaucrat Biden — as if he were some virtuous man. He is not. He is an old rotten profiteer with a rotten progeny.

    The wokes have been conditioned like a chihuahua to follow the party line of Russiagate and MeTooing. None of these so-enthusiastic fools has ever pondered on some 1000 American military bases abroad, the famous ” we came, we saw, he died” (see the establishing of the slave market in ruined Libya), and such trifles as Obama/Clintons steely refusal to establish a Medicare-for-all.

    At least the mega-fraud named Obama was marketed as a young black community organizer (he eventually revealed himself as a banal filthy opportunist). The current woke celebration is for two warmongers — the old demented man Biden and the old demented woman Clinton.

    The celebration has sealed, for a foreseeable future, the fate of Assange and other honest and courageous people standing for human decency and against Finacial Squid/MIC.
    As Hilary said it famously, “can we drone Assange?” Now they can.

    • Replies: @Iris
  340. Iris says:
    @anon

    ‘Angel is next.’

    Who is “Angel”? Can you clarify, please?

    There is no way GW Bush knew about the details of 9/11; he was too low in the Deep State food chain.

    The assassination of JFK, already, was practically organised by the militant Zionist business community of Dallas. 9/11 was a much more difficult conspiracy to put together; it required a tightly-knit group, impervious to fear because their ultimate loyalty and safe haven lay in another country.

  341. Biff says:
    @Erebus

    disruptive anomaly America’s political class has for too long been unable to produce.

    He should pardon Empire’s enemies – Assange, Snowden, etc.. And make peace with Putin…., and let the faux-liberal Democratic Party show their true colors.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  342. annamaria says:
    @James Forrestal

    To be fair, “$850 million in multiple government-backed loans” is smaller than $1 billion procured by Bidens in China and Ukraine, in conflict with the US interests. https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/inside-hunter-bidens-murky-history-of-business-dealings-in-china/

    An expose of Hunter Biden’s emails published by The Post on Wednesday showed the oft-troubled son leveraging access to his then-vice president father and introducing him to an executive of a Ukrainian gas company that was under scrutiny at the time. …

    Hunter Biden’s dealings in China, however, have earned a lot less scrutiny — including over a $1 billion windfall for his business venture just days after visiting Beijing with his influential father.

    Of course, whether Dems or Repubs, they are loyal to ziocons.

  343. Iris says:
    @annamaria

    He is an old rotten profiteer with a rotten progeny.

    The (publicly available) photo of Hunter Biden, passed out with a crack cocaine pipe still in his mouth, is sickening.

    It is hard to believe that a country with a shred of respect for themselves can have “this” as First Family.

  344. Mr Jew says:

    R E D–S T A T E—S E C E S S I O N might scare the hell out of them, if they know they’re going to lose control of a major portion of the USA…https://redstatesecession.org/

  345. Erebus says:
    @Biff

    He should pardon Empire’s enemies… make peace with Putin…

    … or die trying? In his 1st term? How would that move the program forward?

    Trump, I’m sure, has his vulnerabilities and with the entire spectrum of forces that could and were brought against him, his successful exposure of of the sausage-works was a rather substantial contribution to start the long journey of restoring America. Act 1 needed doing, and he did it. I’d argue that he alone could have done it.

    Having set the stage for Act 2, who knows what he’ll do if he gets that now receding chance to continue.

    After all the evidence of fraud, and all the legal arguments and media obfuscation, I get the feeling that it’ll come down to his deplorable base getting off their arses and rallying in front of their State Legislatures the way they rallied for Trump before the election. The State Legislatures have absolute control of their Electoral votes, and can choose to ignore official results at will. They can’t ignore 10-20,000 people demanding justice and so can be forced to choose wisely.

    Another hammer that can be used to force the issue is for Team Trump to keep hammering the facts and implications of Hunter’s laptop and whatever other damning information they have. Much of that momentum has been lost but it needs to be used ruthlessly to both force a moral imperative on the people and their govts, and to backfoot the Democrats’ legal & moral defence.

  346. @glib

    Yup, we did go to the Moon.

    Walked on it, six times.

    You are a bunch of backward ass monkeys and angry, envious Jews…lol

    Neil Armstrong. Descended From Scottish Border Reivers,

    Celts on the Moon.

    Thankfully only white American men have walked on the Moon.

  347. Derer says:
    @Tommy Thompson

    Mathematically, the Trump lead could have been lost over night only with “mailed” ballots close to 100% assigned to Biden and not realistic 50/50.

  348. ANON[332] • Disclaimer says:

    1)Since Trump has not the slightest hope of prevailing in any recounts or lawsuits against Democratic tampering with the election process, he should simply blanket pardon Pence for any federal crimes he may have committed in this life and resign from the presidency.

    2) Pence should, in turn, blanket pardon Trump for any similar transgressions and resign from the presidency.

    3) Concomitant with the latter action, all extant cabinet members should be given full pardons and immediately fired.

    4)This will leave Nancy Pelosi in charge of the executive branch until the January inauguration without a clue how to lead the country or shepherd a transition of administrations. Chaos will reign. The Dems will be blamed. Maybe both Joe and Nancy will have nervous breakdowns and require institutionalization making them unfit for service. The feckless Kamala will soon discover how difficult it is to rule a global empire with BLM and Antifa street fighters as her main talent pool. The oligarchs and plutocrats will bug out till incipient revolution plays out. With its population greatly reduced, drainage of the DC Swamp may actually manifest some rudimentary beginning.

    5)The whole country will suffer (as would happen anyway) but justice demands that the next slow-motion coup begins on the same day that Joe Biden is proclaimed the president-elect, the same as happened four years ago. The greater the chaos the more lingering will be the lessons learned from their history books by future Americans. It may be our only chance: make the most of it.

    When treasonous insiders make all permissible in their grasp for power, they deserve the fate they receive from the inevitable blowback. They wanted to rule the republic through any means possible, let them instead digest the reality of a Second Republic, sans themselves, initiated by their own actions.

    I’ve stocked up on enough popcorn to last through this show. Release the hounds.

    • Agree: nickels
    • Replies: @Escher
  349. Vojkan says:
    @Polemos

    I didn’t step in for anyone, I simply replied to the question you asked.

    Cleaning up the raised streets and ditches in the middle of a swamp, using mathematical principles aligned to the constellations and astral cycles of the heavens to lay down the gridwork of a massive city: that’s not higher civilization but inferior savagery?

    Where did I say inferior savagery? The achievements in Tenochtitlan or elsewhere in what we call today Latin America are indeed remarkable for civilisations that didn’t rely on a writing system.

    But, you didn’t actually say what it was about Genoa, Venice or the League that sets them apart from issues of scale and economy, just that you personally set them higher on account of a lack of human sacrifice. Was it their art, their architecture, their literature, their myths, their ability to navigate worldwide that you find superior? Or, was it their banking and mercantile approach, with finance as the mark of evolved humanity?

    Genoa, Venice and the League were all part of the same European Christian civilisation, built on diversity and relying on the same writing system. A decentralised civilisation, contrary to pre-Columbian ones that were, the Incas excepted, mostly individual cities-civilisations. And yes, literature and trade do make European civilisation superior because they rely on a writing system that allows not only widespread exchange of goods and services but also widespread sharing of ideas and knowledge.

    I can get behind seeing the sacrifice of living beings as a wayward misunderstanding of what calls humans to live as their higher selves, and starting as the renunciation of killing human scapegoats goes in that direction towards higher life. But I also think if that’s the case, then we need to also go further and see all killing of life and beings this way, and do away with consuming animals and all the industries associated with the ritual consumption of life as holiday event — turkeys on the table for USAians, e. g.

    Humans are not gods. We are basically animals. Our only difference is that we operate concepts. I don’t think we can become a higher version of ourselves by denying our nature. I believe in acceptance and transcendence rather than rejection and transformation. As a Christian, for me the ritual is not in the consumption, it precedes the consumption. The ritual is made of acknowledgement of our passing nature, gratitude for life and atonement for the sacrifice of life committed in order to sustain our own. I accept the necessity of killing to eat, evolution has made us omnivores, but I certainly don’t see raising animals in cages and stuffing them with chemicals so that humans can stuff themselves with meat in turn as a progress. It also happens to be terribly unhealthy. Stress produces toxins so it is definitely better to abstain from eating meat than to eat an animal whose life was just one big trauma.

    No need to apologize for having a viewpoint, Vojkan!

    Good, because I don’t intend to.

  350. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    • Replies: @Petermx
  351. Escher says:
    @AnonFromTN

    The spin machine is working overtime to convince the world that:
    1. Sleepy Joe was able to motivate his base enough while sitting in his basement to come out and vote
    2. The base voted strategically in blocks to ensure that Trump took the lead and then lost it
    3. Statistical anomalies don’t matter

    We are cursed to live in interesting times.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  352. Escher says:
    @ANON

    Watch how BLM and Antifa disappear into the woodwork.
    Covid is also no longer an issue it seems, with the democratic coalition partying on the streets.

  353. Emslander says:
    @acementhead

    I should have said, “Deaths have been the measure of the seriousness of the pandemic up until this time.”

    I could have been clearer. Still the death rate and the actual number of daily deaths in Sweden indicate that the pandemic has ended there.

  354. Petermx says:

    “Evidence Mounts of a Stolen Election” Definitely. Massive fraud by the extremist left.

    From Roger Stone –
    Massive corruption in Michigan – hundreds of Trump voters chanting “stop the vote”
    Apparently Roger Stone will be working for Trump to straighten things out. He says Trump has the votes to win.

    https://stonecoldtruth.com/watch-voter-fraud-and-election-meddling-evidence-floods-social-media/

    and

    Ballot counter caught on camera crumpling up ballots and throwing them out


  355. Petermx says:
    @geokat62

    I completely agree that Trump has done way too much for them. Anything done for them is too much as far as I’m concerned. But it will be worse if Biden wins. The Jews are in the White House with both candidates. Kamala Harris’ husband is Jewish and with Biden the wars for Israel will start again. At least Trump didn’t start any new wars and has been pulling troops out of the wars we were/are in.

  356. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:

    Iris, anent 356, ‘Angel’ is code for the plane Bush was on – collateral of an extremely restricted sort. The message demonstrated that the 911 perps had full control over the National Command Authority. Just to make sure Junior would shit that extra brick, and play his part.

    Think about the slapstick, catastrophic fiasco of 911. Sustained and complete deactivation of US emergency response at all levels could only be effected by an organization with institutionalized impunity and arbitrary power. Who has that? Who has Section 202 et seq., the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the operational files exemption, secret dotted-line reports per the classified “NizDid” of 12/19/47, COG, SFFAS 56, and judicial doctrines of utmost deference, deference upon deference, political questions, and state secrets…?

    CIA. Your government is CIA. Everything else is their flunkies.

    CIA used Israeli cutouts, of course. (Saudi cutouts too. Look up Ptech – an official blacklisted terrorist was working with MITRE, cutting FAA off from DoD protection.) CIA arranged all that with eyes-only intelligence liaison agreements. For more-or-less plausible deniability.

    So, strictly speaking, Mossad and CIA share responsibility for transnational organized crime in the meaning of the CTOC, and for internationally wrongful acts in breach of jus cogens. As for who’s the mastermind, we’ll just let the Red Army sort it out after WWIII.

    • Agree: Polemos
    • Replies: @Iris
  357. geokat62 says:

    Excerpt from ,Biden’s rabbi’ says everyone must be patient, as the Children of Israel learned to do in the desert:

    What, in your perspective, does Biden’s election represent for American Jews? One part of the community feels the last four years have been great, the other thinks it’s been a disaster.

    https://forward.com/news/national/458079/biden-rabbi-election-2020/?utm_source=PostUp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Sunday%20Newsletter%20RSS&utm_maildate=11/08/2020

  358. False Flags & Conspiracies online conference Dec. 5-6

    [Fetzer, Barrett, Tracy, Dammegard, Kollerstrom, others]

    https://falseflagconspiracies2020.com

  359. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:

    And now, the comical fuckup with the Four Seasons,

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/four-seasons-total-landscaping-trump-team-news-conference.html

    This is CIA’s signature – sabotage by White House moles. Remember the fruity outfits on Nixon’s White House guards, when the knives came out? Wouldn’t be surprised if they rolled that out again, that was great. Tart em up in Roman centurion costumes and makeup, or something.

  360. @anonymous

    I would agree with you, except FOR ALL THE FRAUD!

  361. Polemos says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    You haven’t looked into it further. But if you accept that much of our occulted pasts, you then can’t say much of any of us, including Europeans.

  362. annamaria says:
    @Pseudonymous1

    Sure. The Chinese puppet Joe is no paragon of virtue! (Do you recognize the logic of naming? — in this case, the naming is supported by hard evidence, not by some confabulations produced by zionist Dm. Alperovitch and foreign agent Steele). The Chinese puppet Joe has acquired, mysteriously, a lot of $millions by selling his ‘influence’. He was accused of raping his stuffers (hard evidence at hand). He and his sanctimonious wife Jil have produced Hunter Biden — a corrupt drug-addict known for his promiscuity and mega-grifting in China and Ukraine.

    You are peddling enthusiastically an almost cadaver whose brains are giving up. The Chinese puppet Joe has cognitive problems. He is demented. He is not cognitively adequate anymore. He is a nailed parrot for Deep State.

    Joe and his wife Jil refused to recognize their youngest granddaughter because of her wrong pedigree. So virtuous! Biden the warmonger has been in the most cordial cahoots with the MIC, Financial Squid, CIA/FBI, and with the treasonous local color-revolutionists inspired & paid by Clintons. Biden is rotten through and through. He is a moral cadaver.

  363. FTN basically agrees with Brad that Trump lost because he screwed over his white base.

    They see Trump as just a gayop….a way to introduce white advocacy and then knock it down forever.

    I can see this as being a fairly accurate analysis in that it seems to be in line with jewish subversive thought patterns and relentless deviousness.

    Another take would be that Trump really has a patriotic streak, meant well, but was fucked over every time he tried to make a move.

    In any case, gayop or not, there is no way in hell Biden legitimately won the election. I’m convinced there was massive fraud and no amount of jewy graphs and jew baked propaganda will change my mind. I find it very hard to believe that Trump made some kind of deal to intentionally lose as that would be totally contrary to his character.

    In any case, while Trump had his faults, he at least said some good things and managed to avoid any new wars. Biden/Harris and the jews behind them will surely crank up military aggression, open the borders, and make life hell for white Christian people.

    It’s telling that Netanyahu, Graham, and McConnell have already made overtures to the senile old usurper who’s a national security risk. Romney and Kristol are celebrating as well.

    This can’t be good.

  364. This is a great site about the mathematical impossibilities surrounding the fraud.

    One great data point is that in the states where it was certain that Biden would win, his numbers compared to Killary were down by 200,000 or more in major cities. (Chicago, New York, etc). But in the swing states’ major cities, like Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Milwaukee Biden’s numbers were up by 70,000 or more compared to Clinton’s.

    Very odd………

    https://theredelephants.com/there-is-undeniable-mathematical-evidence-the-election-is-being-stolen/

  365. Assuming the coup attempt finally involves the Supreme Court, ensuring that those proceedings were transparent to the public would be a great public education, and reduce potential for residual public turmoil. Also, public viewing would create a great disincentive for shenanigans by potentially corrupt members of the Supreme Court.

  366. Iris says:
    @anon

    Thanks ever so much for the very interesting reply.

    CIA. Your government is CIA. Everything else is their flunkies.

    I used to think the same. That in Western so-called “democracies”, the Presidents and Prime Ministers come and go and are the puppets and figureheads of the Deep State, which would be mostly constituted of the Intelligence and Security services as benefitting from more longevity and stability in service, allowing long term strategic planning.

    I was wrong. The deeper layer that stays in power for ever and actually does the far-long term planning, as well as controlling the intelligence community, are of course the Rich. Their power stems from the fortunes they pass over generations, while the members of the IS depend on their positions, which can only last till retirement.

    We had a striking illustration of this fact in France, during the 5-year presidency of Zionist President Nicolas Sarkozy.
    Apart from the destruction of Libya, his other remarkable achievement was that he exerted a complete upheaval of the country’s Foreign Affairs administration and of its Security Services. As a consequence, the former became a Zionist echo chamber; the latter facilitated and probably organised, under Mossad coaching, the “Islamist” terror attacks of Toulouse, Charlie, the Bataclan and Nice.

    The ultimate masterminds of 9/11 are those in control of the US financial industry.
    The Zionist plutocracy did 9/11.

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  367. The ZeroHedge article stating the “no coat-tails” Biden argument where the Senator candidates in battleground states received about the same votes as Trump (Republican candidates), and Biden received about 100,000 more votes than the Democratic Senate candidates are also confirmed at the House level (and in some states the Senator also has “no coat-tails”). Biden received many more votes than his Democrat House candidates’ vote total in battleground states, while Trump received about the same as his Republican colleagues in total House votes (would be interesting to compare by district). My Trump hating friends insist that many voters just filled out the Biden box (ignoring Senate and House Democrats and ignoring marijuana and other referendums.) I still think it more likely reflects ballot stuffing (much easier to mark one box for Biden on 100,000 ballots than two or five; will be very interesting as to which districts these “Biden-only” ballots appeared). In most Presidential elections, the President received about the same (99%) total votes as his part running for House seats. Biden repeatedly received 4% more than his colleagues.
    In a few cases, as in Wisconsin, Trump had 50,000 LESS votes than his Republican colleagues running for the House, while Biden had 60,000 MORE votes than his Democrat colleagues. My Democrat friends attribute this 110,000 vote differential (out of 1.6 million; over 6%) to vote splitting, ie. Republicans voted for Biden at the top of the ticket rather than Trump but left the other Republicans votes intact (or could be moving Trump votes over to the Biden column.) Of course after five days of counting many states still have not concluded voting, so there may be some defeated Democrats rising from the dead! In Va’s 7th district “with 99.1 percent of the district reporting”, Abigail Spanberger rose from 39% to win! (She also came from far behind in 2018; it’s good to be a CIA agent.) No doubt all the voting results will be “corrected” soon, or just disappeared. It’s what happens in a banana republic.

  368. If the supreme court was made to be used someday, it’s today. Incredible political crime !
    Will the supreme court stand up against this crime ?
    http://revoltedufaubourg.fr/the-man-w-s-liberty-valance/
    The constitution rely on intellectual / moral power and physical power
    The physical power is withinus, it’s inside the members of the court. Will they have the guts to use it, to violently react ? Or will they wash their hands like Pontius Pilatus and let the “red states” go into problems…
    The man in shadows…the physical power… the violence. Not to be a hero but to protect the country to prevent outlaws from becoming the rulers of the land, so the country survives.

  369. Anonymous[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @Verymuchalive

    “He also needs to stop Anonymous replies, full stop. Anatoly Karlin and other columnists do it. It seriously limits Troll traffic.
    Tip: do not reply to Anonymous, as you only encourage these *****

    Blocking anonymous replies is what a pussy does. This site won’t let me post non-anonymously.

  370. anon[404] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes. Iris, reasonable people can certapnly differ about the issues in your apposite #384. Objective observer Caitlin Johnstone certainly leans toward a more diffuse plutocracy. There’s something to be said for the idea that Dulles, a lawyer in the business of legal coercion for kleptocrats, simply extended his remit to illegal forcible coercion.

    In US satellites like France, it may well be that the head of state heads the state and runs the IC. CIA bribes the balls off them.

    But at home I think it comes down to, How many divisions does the plutocracy have? CIA can kill you and torture you and get away with it. They’ve killed senior bankers and imprisoned Fortune 500 CEOs. Rockefeller, Rothschild’s US mini-me, was the one who said, “They control it.” CIA never killed a Rothschild but the Rothschilds are a classic parasitic elite, kissing up to the powers that be and kicking down. Sheldon Adelson is pretty loaded but I don’t see CIA working for him, I see him working for CIA – bribing US officials, blackmailing CCP bigwigs at his casinos, and bugging Julien Assange in breach of bedrock international law. The dirtiest dirty work. Sheldon has Tongsun Park’s old job. He moonlights as a CIA cutout.

    Wealth is hereditary but US IC power is, too. GW Bush was the epitome of dynastic CIA nomenklatura, son of the most influential CIA commissar after Dulles. Obama is the son of spooks and grandson of spooks, who cut his teeth at BIC, had a youthful gap-year enrichment experience in Pakistan and somehow didn’t get his head sawed off. Alwaleed bin Talal greased him into Harvard. Yet both of them were kept under firm institutional control in office. Bush was scared into hiding by cartoon jihadis with exploding cameras. Obama was humiliated by public threats of mutiny when he dared to mention enforcing the universal jurisdiction law of torture. The president has slightly less workplace discretion than Vanna White. She at least has some labor rights thanks to SAG. Putin, whose job it is to know, explained the weight of “the bureaucracy” to brainwashed Americans.

  371. The marvels of the electronic age on display. Reminiscent of WTC building 7. The con artists’ timing can be so hard to get just right.

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/vote-switching-in-real-time-fraud-in-action_N4v7YyuH5iueluz.html

  372. annamaria says:
    @Tommy Thompson

    The orange Donald may be no better than cadaverous Joe, but this is secondary to the ongoing putsch in the US. The CIA-supported color revolutionists of Clintons’ vintage have been demolishing whatever lawful mechanisms of governing were left in the zionized & corporatized US.

    If you are the loyalist that you claim to be, then tell us how come that a foreign agent Steele was bought by an established US politician for the purpose of initiating a color revolution in the US? Till yesterday everyone knew that Trump was bought by Russians (have you listened to Rachel Maddow ?– she knows; she is clairvoyant, no facts can interrupt her money-making presstituting fervor). And then (surprise!) facts have surfaced that the Bidens were too cozy with the Chinese. (The Bidens’ profits were really nice). Same in Ukraine. Don’t you like Bidens’ parenting skills — to produce a drug addict who is also a rapist and corrupt mega-profiteer. Joe and Jill see their reflection in Hunter. Though they do not want to accept their newborn granddaughter. Jill is an educator, you know…

    By the way, Ukraine, a former breadbasket, has become a basket case thanks to Nuland’s revolution coordinated by Obama/Clinton cannibalistic policies. After converting beautiful Libya into a hell complete with slave markets, Obama/Clinton have distinguished themselves in Ukraine, where people live today on $2.50 per day — Ukrainians are the poorest folks in Europe. And their pediatric services have been destroyed the same as in Libya.
    They are such humanitarians, the Obamas and Clintons! Not that Cheneys et al. are better.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @Iris
  373. @annamaria

    The truth about Biden and his crackhead son is truly frightening……like Trump said, they are like a vacuum cleaner sucking up cash.

    Biden is a national security risk for sure.

  374. Iris says:
    @annamaria

    how come that a foreign agent Steele was bought by an established US politician for the purpose of initiating a color revolution in the US?

    Actually, it was much worse than that, dear Annamaria.

    MI6 spymaster Sir Richard Dearlove, who served as chief of MI6 from 1999 to 2004, and is known for producing the accusatory report about Iraq’s imaginary WMD used by Tony Blair to justify the war, was instrumental in the Russiagate set-up against President Trump. This indicates that the current British intelligence services took part in the coup.

    Furthermore, later information showed the hand of the Brookings Institution and the action of its former president Strobe Talbott, former Deputy Secretary of State of the Clinton White House, former director of the Council on Foreign Relations, member of the Trilateral Commissions executive committee and also Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Policy Board of the Obama White House.

    The other key actor who directly interfaced with Steele to impeach President Trump was the Zionist Queen of America Victoria Nuland.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/08/10/the-brookings-hand-behind-russiagate-points-back-to-rhodes-trust-coup-on-america/

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/07/24/meet_steele_dossiers_primary_subsource_fabulist_russian_at_us_think_tank_whose_boozy_past_the_fbi_ignored_124601.html

  375. @Christophe GJ

    I support no party nor politician… I spoke to quite a few people and only one of them mailed in their ballot. The person who did it was a Trump supporter. So I don’t get where the idea that Democrats are more likely to mail in the ballots. I honestly would like to know where they come up with that idea…??

  376. anon[391] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s some things you GOP dupes all forgot while you were sitting in the stands waving your pom-poms for your team, all happy that ‘you’ won. Now you need to remember that, win or lose, your elections are fake bullshit. They were bullshit when you won. Now that you lost, they are still bullshit.

    https://www.salon.com/2016/04/15/america_is_no_model_democracy_u_s_elections_rank_worst_among_western_states_partner/

    This F+ report card is inaccurate, though, because it ignores the mechanisms that destroy any candidate you might possibly want. Tulsi crushes Kamala, who doesn’t get a single fucking delegate cause she’s such a authoritarian psychocunt, and the DNC buries Tulsi and sticks Kamala up your ass just so you know who’s boss. And if you’re a Dem dupe, you get all happy and dance around with Kamala stuck up your asshole like a chemical light stick.

    You don’t need to win elections. You need to knock over your shithole kleptocracy.

  377. @Pft

    Don’t be ridiculous! That answer does not explain how 100% of those mail in ballots were for Biden, only why a higher percentage would be. You’re prevaricating excuses against all reason and in contradiction of logic and mathematics. So you’d rather do this than see a proper accounting of all ballots? You’d disenfranchise more than half the country? You’re so sure you’re right and the majority is wrong, that you’d deprive them of their voice eh? This is precisely why the Right is concerned and why so many Democrats crossed over in this election. The irregularities are on a scale which is breathtaking. I’ve been watching US elections for 40 years and never saw it’s like. I saw instances of fraud from both sides in all those elections but nothing even close to this astonishing and obviously stolen election.

  378. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    People probably are real they just did not know they voted or were paid for their ballot.

    . . . both would be illegal. Christ, how would you ‘not know’ that you legally voted in a presidential election?

    If you were to audit you will find real people to every ballot.

    You may even find multiple ballots traceable to each of those real people. You may even find that their signatures don’t match, that they are dead, have moved, changed citizenship, are in a coma, et al.

    When you send them out for free without a request, they will all come back with a legal vote.

    They may all come back with a vote, but not all will be legal.

    Perhaps you should stick with harassing Atzmon, it appears to be your only core competency.

  379. @TKK

    “Why weren’t we prepared? You had 26 years to prepare.”

    The honest answer, of course, is (hats off to William Jefferson Clinton): “It’s the money, stupid.”

    There is no Big Money in preparedness.

  380. Alfred says:
    @GeneralRipper

    I tried to comment on Anatoly Karlin’s bullshit, but it seems the Russian gayboy who likes Cuties has banned me.

    I had the same problem. I guess he cannot forgive me for pointing out that his Covid-19 projections were a total nonsense. Nothing hurts more than the truth.

    Here is a look at what is planned for us. By the only guy who make a correct forecast for this election.

    Americans are Ignorant of what the Real Plan is (Martin Armstrong)

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  381. annamaria says:
    @God's Fool

    It is hilarious that Kamala Harris, the supposedly vicious warrior against drug-users, has been dead-silent about Hunter Biden, the eldest among Chinese Joe’s children.
    Hunter Biden is a drug-addict who never did time even when facts of his ‘misbehavior’ were hard and undeniable.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/addiction-in-society/201910/the-biden-family-and-addiction

    • Replies: @God's Fool
  382. annamaria says:
    @Ben Gunn

    The FakeBook and Google are the CIA spawn with a strong presence of Israel-firsters at the helm of both organizations. The same is true about MSM. The secret services (misnamed as ‘intelligence’ services) have won and taken possession of the ZUSA.

    The engineering of ‘new americans’ goes full speed and without any fig leaves. The sanctimonious fools of woke persuasion have been very active in propping cadaverous Joe — a thoroughly corrupt opportunist with a corrupt and promiscuous progeny. The ‘progressive’ wokes are fine with THIS choice for their adulation. The ‘progressives’ do not want to factor in the absence of a new war during the Trump presidency, unlike the initiation of ‘humanitarian interventions’ (mass murder) under the Obama/Clinton regime.

    The ‘progressives’ wokes have been led by operators from the Military-Industrial Complex and Corporate-Racket Complex with the Financial Squid in charge. The woke idiots (uneducated in the world history and spoilt by the easy availability of everything thanks to the US gangsterism) have been cheering up for the final destruction of the US, for more glorious Wars for Israel, and for WWIII against Russia and China.

    • Agree: Iris
  383. @annamaria

    It’s travesty of her oath, moral as well as legal to stay silent on Hunter Biden drug issue but then again, how do you spell power hungry, money loving, pater hating, she devil? Karma Devi Harris!

    P. S. She did not mention her black father (Jamaican) at all… but of course, who can blame her? Donald Harris is a typical black man, albeit, affirmative action professor, in that he was quick to gratify his sexual urge but tardy in taking responsibility for the byproducts.

  384. @annamaria

    “The FakeBook and Google are the CIA spawn with a strong presence of Israel-firsters at the helm of both organizations.”

    Sundar Pichai, the current head at Google, is most likely made to crawl on his all fours to earn millions… I can just visualize Sergey dressed up as Palpatine and the dothead as the Darth Vader.

  385. @annamaria

    ” Thoroughly corrupt opportunist” Amen, and one could add a zillion other negative depictions of this dissolute scumbag.
    The insane Germans are almost dancing in the streets at the news of the (artificial) victory of this perverse asshole and they , the psychotic woke krauts, see this as a dream come true as they did when BO was installed into the WH.

    The lunatic krauts have been demanding, as if they won the war and were called upon to dictate internal US policy, they have been demanding for years that the US finally forbid the private ownership of guns by the citizenry, and now see this as a step in that direction.

    WC was more than right with his accessment of the Teutons and his “Boots or throat” axiom.

    AJM

  386. Johnny EU says:

    You can always invent thousands of theories to fit your narration, truth is USA society is divided close to 50/50 and those few % who were at the center and also few who earlier voted for Trump(not fanatics) were tired of ultra narcissistic Trump and his failures with for example decreasing trade deficit with China, failure to build the giant wall and force Mexico to pay, failure to bring manufacturers back in meaningful number, increasing the speed of China tech rise by sanctioning them so Chinese started to investing in tech and science like crazy, sanctioning closest allies and losing friends and many other poor decisions, strategies and tactical moves. The only good thing that I can say Trump did, was not starting any new wars and wasting additional billions of dollars on them.

    Back to conspiracy theories…..

    I can also say that 2016 elections results were fake, republicans some years ealier (lets say in Bush era) obtained advanced tech from aliens which helped them to generate perfect humanlike holograms projected by super advanced lasers from hovering swarms of nanodrones. Those holograms looking exactly like people living in those areas were voting insted of real people, real people were hypnotised, frozen at homes for few hours, their memories erased and false memories of going out and voting were uploaded from afar via quantum transfer 🙂

    I may create thousands stories like this, some low tech, some hi-tech, more crazier but still theoretically possible, I am sure that there will be tons of people who will believe in them if it will fit their agenda, political views, whatever it is

    I am 100% sure if I would polish this theory which I invented while writing this post, publish it on YT and say that this is the way how Democrats did it, huge chunk of fanatical Trump supporters would believe it and parrot it on the internet and social media. It works both ways, it seems that people are becoming more and more irrational. Magical, supersticious, conspiracy type of thinking is strong like never before in modern times

    • Replies: @Simply
  387. @Escher

    Folks here need to spend a little time researching the election of 1876:

    –Alleged “highest turnout in American history” was really massive voter fraud
    –Democratic newspapers declared Tilden the new president for _months_.
    –Several state legislatures sent two slates of electoral colleges to Congress, and told Congress to “pick one”
    –Congress messed around for months, and the Republican majority of Congressional delegations (one vote per state per the Constitution) finally accepted the Hayes slates one day before Grant’s term expired (now _that_ is _real_ procrastination).

    To this day _nobody_ has the slightest idea what the real vote would have looked like.

    • Thanks: annamaria
  388. @Harold Smith

    And this is WHY I’m a BIG fan of secession — well, IF the frigging sheep would grow some balls & turn off the idiot box. See:
    https://www.quora.com/profile/Chris-Rhodes-65/answers/Partition-of-the-USA

    The federal government is becoming more and more overbearing. Before originalists lost their majority on the Supreme Court in 1934, and especially before 1861, a US state had much freedom. But now the US government is forcing states from Georgia to California to follow a one-size-fits-all compendium of millions of pages of federal regulations. This yields an increasing friction between the aspirations of a particular state and Washington DC. A country for red-states could reinstate federalism (states’ rights).

    The power of Washington DC reaches into more and more aspects of its citizens’ lives each year. This forces the government to make calls regarding religion, justice, and morality, causing an increase in partisanship. In the past, your governor had more impact on your life than your president. WWI and WW2 caused Americans to bond together, but division has been growing sharply since the end of the Cold War.

    Also see https://RedStateSecession.org.

    So just do it instead of bitching for decades about SJWs, the Left, RINOs, immigration, etc. Do it!
    Secede from the Union. It’s simple, really. The Empire has done it before to other countries. Now it’s YOUR turn.

    While doing that, renege on all odious Fed fiat bankster debts, keep all military assets within your territory, implement the original Founding Fathers Constitution & go on with your new life as a debt free republic.

    It all starts with Texas. Texans need to step up & pull the secession trigger. They always TALK a big game. Now walk the talk. I believe this would create a MeToo moment for the other red states to follow.

    And for fcuk sakes, don’t let ANY dual citizens run your new governments.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  389. Americus says:

    If we can have a RERUN and not just a RECOUNT
    and especially if it’s only for the presidential pick in the battleground states
    there is a very simple way to ensure fidelity.
    – in person voting in the precinct only.
    – after identifying themselves and signing in on the voter registration book, the voter gets a ballot and stub, each with serial number.
    – for privacy, they then go into a booth where they mark the ballot for their pick
    – then they go thru a curtained doorway (for secrecy from the public) and give their ballot to either a Red or Blue representative, who tallies it and puts it in a red or blue box. They can also write their ballot # and their vote on a journal in this room.
    We now have the total votes for that precinct and the number for Red and Blue, which can’t be fiddled centrally.
    Get the totals on site, on time, in safe custody, and report them right away.
    Each rep can report interim totals to Red or Blue HQ as well.
    Physical safeguards and simple arithmetic.

  390. Americus says:

    Good also to have a Federal marshal at each polling station to keep an eye on things, take safe custody of the red and blue ballots and the journal, and make copies of the journal too.
    Hopefully Amy Coney Barrett on the Court can help to make this happen. The Dems knew what they were doing when they tried to block her confirmation until after the election!

  391. @Alfred

    His Most Majestic Galactic Emperor, Klaus Schwab.

    Supreme Douchebag of the Milky Way and Scourge of the Deplorables!

    • Replies: @Poco
  392. @Black Picard

    I basically agree with everything you say but unfortunately, as I see, it “the people” (i.e. a majority of the citizenry) are too morally incompetent to do anything like that.

    When the people of North Dakota (who I assume to be a representative sample of Americans) overwhelmingly rejected the 2012 ballot initiative to eliminate property tax, I realized that something like secession is probably never going to happen.

    Presently my biggest concern is that the U.S. “government” is going to start a nuclear war with Russia and/or China (either on purpose or by accident). Trump might even try to get WW3 going before he leaves office e.g. as a measure of “revenge” against the America that rejected him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Black Picard
  393. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Like I said, it’s nothing to do with me – it’s your country, so go spastic.

    Do you have any of our NATO or other alliance troops stationed in your country? Perhaps you might persuade your government to send them home, as you shouldn’t be trusting the protection of your nation to a sub-African kleptocracy.

    Perhaps also you could ask your UN ambassador to start proceedings for that organization to declare Puerto Rico an illegitimately procured and held colony.

    • Replies: @Ultrafart the Brave
  394. @Harold Smith

    When the people of North Dakota (who I assume to be a representative sample of Americans)

    ????????

    North Dakota is the only state that trusts voters enough not to require their registration, has voted for a Democratic presidential candidate only once since the 1930s (1964), and has the only state-owned bank
    in the US.

    Whites and American Indians account for 92.4% of the population. (Many of the remainder, particularly the blacks, are in the Air Force, stationed in the state temporarily.) Among the largest ethnic groups are Volga Germans and Icelanders.

    Population density is 10.73/sq mi (4.13/km2); Only Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming are sparser.

    This is a “representative sample of Americans” in 1889, perhaps, their year of admission to the Union.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  395. @Harold Smith

    When the people of North Dakota (who I assume to be a representative sample of Americans) overwhelmingly rejected the 2012 ballot initiative to eliminate property tax, I realized that something like secession is probably never going to happen.

    Someone charismatic just has to package the benefits of secession like this & disseminate it to the sheep:
    No more illegal wars or fiat debt. No more nanny state laws. No more treasonous politicians answering to banksters & big business. No more unlawful taxes. No more uneducated immigrants who can’t or won’t assimilate. Instead, liberty & real freedom for all.

    Would North Dakotans reject such rational logic? Um don’t answer that. I forgot, this is America we’re talking about – home of the ignorant “USA USA USA” cucks.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  396. roonaldo says:
    @Yusef

    In the 2000 election, Florida’s Supreme Court ordered a hand recount of some counties, which the U.S. Supreme Court stopped while the recount was underway, arguably hijacking a sovereign state’s right to interpret and implement its election laws. Bush’s lead at that point was down to only 537 votes.

    In many predominantly Black precincts the election was very poorly administered, making it difficult to vote, and many were improperly listed as felons and not allowed to vote.

    It brings to my mind a great Bob Dylan song of middleweight contender Ruben “Hurricane” Carter’s railroaded murder conviction, where Dylan sings of the U.S “where justice is a game.” As are elections.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  397. @roonaldo

    Hurricane Carter slaughtered 3 white people in cold blood. He was twice convicted on the evidence, and NEVER exonerated. He was released by a Jew Judge on a technicality, not on the basis of evidence.

    But I guess a pop song is what serves as evidence to you?

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  398. @Reg Cæsar

    I meant a “representative sample of Americans” in a moral and patriotic sense.

    As I see it, taxation of residential property, i.e. the levy and collection of an arbitrarily high tax on a necessity of life – land and shelter – is the most immoral tax in the U.S. In essence it’s communism; it’s the state usurping God. It stands the founding principles on their head.

    If I understand correctly, the people rejected the ballot initiative to eliminate property taxation because at the time North Dakota was experiencing an economic boom, and many people felt that under the circumstances they’d pay less tax if they kept the property tax rather than increase other taxes.

    IOW the voters weren’t thinking about the moral or constitutional propriety of the property tax; they weren’t thinking about the elderly widow next door on a fixed income, struggling to pay ever increasing property taxes; nor were they apparently thinking that the economic boom might end some day; rather, they were only thinking about themselves in the present situation and how they might personally come out ahead.

    As I see it, such people are not morally capable of creating a just society with any “real liberty”; so they don’t have what it would take to secede. No doubt John Adams would say they lack the necessary “virtue”

    “Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private (virtue), and public virtue is the only foundation of republics. There must be a positive passion for the public good, the public interest, honour, power and glory, established in the minds of the people, or there can be no republican government, nor any real liberty: and this public passion must be superior to all private passions.” (John Adams: letter to Mercy Warren, April 16, 1776)

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  399. Dube says:

    Alex Jones & Co. are on fire. Hitting the streets. Might the Unzetariate send over for vitamin supplements?

  400. roonaldo says:

    Evidence? Zero forensic evidence linked Artis and Carter to the shootings. Mr. Marins, who was wounded and survived, described two shooters drastically different from the accused.

    Mr. Bradley and Mr. Bello changed their initial stories and identified Artis and Carter only after police learned Bradley was in the area to rob a warehouse, with Bello as the lookout. Bello said he found the dead bodies on entering the bar to buy cigarettes–he robbed the bar’s cash register of its money. A Mr. Ruggio said he heard shots and then saw Bello running down the street. Bradley and Bello both got more in deals to testify than was admitted at trial. They would both later recant their testimony, Bello claiming he’d been promised the $10,500 reward offered for catching the killers (it was never paid).

    Ms. Valentine changed her initial description of the car at trial, now positively identifying the rental car of Artis and Carter.

    Artis and Carter were stopped 3:00 a.m. the night of the shooting. Their car was impounded by police. They voluntarily went to a Grand Jury (you know, where they indict ham sandwiches), which found there was no case to answer.

    Police say they searched the car a second time five days after the first search and found a .32 caliber handgun cartridge and a 12 gauge shotgun round, but the .32 casing and 12 gauge shell didn’t match the types found at the shooting. Police never explained why they hadn’t followed standard bag and tag procedure when they found the evidence nor why they didn’t arrest Artis and Carter once they had it. No gunpowder residue tests were done on Artis and Carter.

    Artis and Carter both passed lie detector tests. Police later said they found a test each had failed.

    Yep, slam dunk case, like George Tenet and the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Seems more like police misconduct in the manufacturing of testimony and evidence. And it’s one helluva good song.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  401. @Justvisiting

    Trump could release all the blackmail files held by the intelligence agencies on every member of Congress and the bureaucracy–on the Internet all over the world.

    If Trump had a shred of decency, he’d pardon Julian Assange pronto — regardless of what transpires between now & end of January 2021. The FACT that he got elected because of Wikileaks dirt on Killary while Assange is treated like a rabid dog in a UK prison is extremely disturbing.

    And where are the bleeding heart liberal Demonrats to lend Assange a hand? Where is the Open Society which funds the white-controlled terrorist BLM/Antifa? All smokescreens. No wonder the International community has little faith with anything American ANY MORE. I have seen with my own eyes as an expat wherever I travel.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @geokat62
  402. roonaldo says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    Hey, check this out–more interesting than my first reply.

    The Real Truth of Ruben Hurricane Carter on MerionWest.com dated 08/06/2019 by Frederick T. Martens, retired from the New Jersey State Police as detective/lieutenant and Pennsylvania Crime Commission as its Executive Director, investigator of organized crime in Patterson, N.J. in the 1970s and ’80s.

    He reviews Detective DeSimone’s 2019 book Media Meddlers: The Case Against Ruben Hurricane Carter.

    Martens takes apart DeSimone’s arguments and the “racial revenge” motive for the killing and puts it squarely in the organized crime milieu–numbers running, the Genovese family, and police. DeSimone describes his ultimately one and only eyewitness Bello as “engaging in gargantuan falsehoods.” Martens ascertains who and what was really involved.

    The Innocence Project has a piece on Carter, and mentions his polygraph concluded he wasn’t the shooter but indicated he may have known who was. Carter and Artis–a boxer and semi-pro football player, respectively, could have gotten mixed up with mob betting, point-shaving, etc., but I’m just speculating. Perhaps I should throw on the theme from The Godfather!

  403. @roonaldo

    I am not arguing with you about your fake books. The trial actually has transcripts, and court reporters who were there. Like Cal Deal.

    You are upside down. Hurricane Carter = Iraqi WMD. Both created by the same ZOG media

    That is all.

    http://www.graphicwitness.com/carter/

    • Replies: @roonaldo
    , @roonaldo
  404. geokat62 says:
    @Black Picard

    Where is the Open Society which funds the white-controlled terrorist BLM/Antifa?

    Did you mean to put quotes around “White-controlled”… or (((brackets)))?

    • Replies: @Black Picard
  405. @Black Picard

    Someone charismatic just has to package the benefits of secession like this & disseminate it to the sheep:

    I understand what you’re saying. In a sense that’s what happened in North Dakota in 2012 but in reverse, i.e. the “benefits” of the communist property tax were being advocated. The people were talked into keeping the immoral and unconstitutional tax (apparently by a conspicuously well funded and organized opposition) because of the ostensible financial “benefits” – compared to raising other taxes – during the economic boom going on at the time. It was an appeal to the selfishness of the people and it worked. If the people had instead acted on principle and done away with the tax they likely would be much farther ahead today, IMO.

    (I see this kind of selfishness everywhere nowadays. An example is found in the number of corrupt politicians who keep getting reelected. I used to argue with neighbors about their habit of voting for a certain corrupt PA congressman. They knew the guy was corrupt, but because of his seniority he was able to “bring home the pork” so they kept reelecting him, arguing that if it wasn’t him doing it here, somebody else’s corrupt politicians would deliver the pork elsewhere so it might as well be here, or something like that).

    Anyway, as more people come to realize the satanic nature of the state and seek to distance themselves from this corrupt society e.g. by living off-grid, homeschooling their kids, etc., the property tax is one tool the communists have to try to prevent this trend. And the more corrupt the state (i.e. the more communist influence), the more oppressive the property tax. I have come to see property tax rates in an area as a barometer of corruption.

    So by my reasoning, if the people cannot even bring themselves to end this immoral tax I can’t see them ever taking any more drastic action in pursuit of liberty.

    • Agree: Black Picard
  406. @Harold Smith

    As I see it, taxation of residential property, i.e. the levy and collection of an arbitrarily high tax on a necessity of life – land and shelter – is the most immoral tax in the U.S.

    So you’re not a Georgist?

    …and many people felt that under the circumstances they’d pay less tax if they kept the property tax rather than increase other taxes.

    The Southern states were first in line to ratify the Sixteenth Amendment. They really thought they wouldn’t pay it themselves. They found out the truth soon enough, when their own boy took us adventuring in Europe.

    As I see it, such people are not morally capable of creating a just society with any “real liberty”; so they don’t have what it would take to secede.

    Davy Crockett and One Week’s Pay: “Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity.”

  407. WOW!

    That was PROOF beyond ANY doubt that the election was “stolen”. ya.

    Calling the trump presidency “democracy” is farce in itself. It is very hard for people to realize that they voted him out.

  408. Poco says:
    @GeneralRipper

    How people listen to clay faced lumps like this I’ll never figure out. Physiognomy is real.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  409. @LoudnClear

    “Voted him out”

    Nobody “voted him out”, you underhanded scumbags are trying to install him illegally, period.

    You delusional lunatic democrats best come to the realization that we are enemies, and from this point forward we will be conducting affairs from this standpoint, and you will not win.

    AJM

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @annamaria
  410. @Reg Cæsar

    Do you have any of our NATO or other alliance troops stationed in your country? Perhaps you might persuade your government to send them home…

    I couldn’t agree more, but there’s no chance in Hell of that happening.

    Our politicians and military bigwigs all have their faces planted firmly in Uncle Sam’s butt. Seems to be a non-negotiable prerequisite for their jobs.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  411. @Ultrafart the Brave

    Our politicians and military bigwigs all have their faces planted firmly in Uncle Sam’s butt. Seems to be a non-negotiable prerequisite for their jobs.

    That’s what you get for inviting us over in the first place. Those “world” wars were never any of our business.

    Now, to get those boulevards in Paris renamed for the Lindberghs…

    • Thanks: annamaria
  412. P.A.Semi says: • Website

    About Trump and Pence writes Revelation 11

    Rev 11:4
    These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

    There are no other figures in pair here, with the attributes described there… And the 24 “elders” (or rather 24th Age) are ready to depart, The Time Has Come…

    When the judeo-bolshevik AP agency prematurely declared US election winner on anniversary of Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, without all states counted and with multiple states already heading for recount and lawsuits, they also inadvertently stroke this verse in the Book of Revelation:

    Rev 11:7
    And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

    A Political Slaughter by a Treason and Fraud…

    Now expecting, if the three-and-half days are meant literally, that tomorrow on 2020-11-11 they would stand up strongly, but the delay may be a metaphor and it may take longer:

    Rev 11:11
    And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet, and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

    Then the Book writes about an “Earthquake”, and about 7000 victims… I hope it will be a “Political Earthquake” and the victims would be jailed and not slain, but it would not be much pity either way, since they’ll reap, what they deserve…

    The other possible outcome, that the Fraud wins, would be much more dark for everyone, both in USA and Worldwide… I hope and pray that the Justice and Truth will win…

    • Replies: @annamaria
  413. roonaldo says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    Fake books? Detective DeSimone was an instrument of the prosecution and wrote a book with heretofore unrevealed information not part of a trial transcript, while Martens’s piece was a review of the book that lays bare the fact that the police and prosecution were well aware of the underworld players and motives involved, which they chose to conceal.

  414. roonaldo says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    Detective DeSimone tries, in his book, to support the prosecution’s case and the police, but what he reveals accomplishes the contrary and more, according to retired detective/ lieutenant Martens.

  415. Vojkan says:
    @LoudnClear

    Yes it is. There’s a thing called mathematics and that thing says that the progression of vote counts as released is mathematically very, very improbable, so improbable that it is very, very close to impossible. That in turns makes people like me who have no stake in the election, very, very skeptical regarding its results.
    I happen to have been in my youth a poll observer representing the opposition in the first multi-party elections in Serbia and I know what election fraud looks like. Biden’s win reeks fraud to high heavens. So, I may have no sympathy for Trump at all but people just didn’t vote him out.
    I could say that chickens have come home to roost and that the USA is experiencing the treatment it has dispensed to many countries with “unfriendly” regimes around the world and finally had to taste its own “color revolution” but I am too aware that American liberals are the vilest satanic degenerates to ever have walked the Earth.

    • Thanks: Polemos
  416. annamaria says:
    @LoudnClear

    Hey, we have an American Boilshevick here on the Unz forum.

    Now tell us, ‘LoudnClear,’ how democratic was the color revolution (coded Russiagate) run by certain Hilary Clinton, the butcherss of Libya? How sweet is your tolerance towards the Clinton-paid hire — the foreign agent Steele — supported by the treasonous behavior of the FBI… Dems have become inseparable from the CIA/FBI.
    Mazel Tov, ‘LoudnClear’!

    You righteous DNC dumped Bernie on Clinton’s orders and then disposed of good woman Gabbard to install the pliable nothingness of the promiscuous Harris. So much democracy!

    The last time the ‘democratic’ mega-criminals Obama and Clinton run a color revolution against Slavic populations in Ukraine (the Kagans’ revolution known as Majdan), Ukraine ended up with the triumph of zionists and neo-nazis, along with becoming the poorest country in Europe — $2.50 per day for the human soul. But your favored family of ‘democratic’ profiteers Bidens made nice profits there.

    Has Jill Biden recognized her baby-granddaughter sired by her crack-addict son? Harris has put a lot of small people to prison for drug possession but she is OK with the confirmed and well-documented drug addiction of Hunter Biden who — surprise! — never did time for his drug possession.
    “Kamala Harris Laughs At Marijuana Use Despite Putting 1,560 People Away For It:” https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/09/kamala-harris-laughs-at-marijuana-use-despite-putting-1560-people-away-for-it/

    And a bonus video for ‘LoudnClear:’ Joe Biden says he’s built most extensive “voter fraud” org in history

    • Replies: @Rurik
  417. annamaria says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    The poor soul does not understand that creating and maintaining a system of the rule of law is hard work that takes generations, whereas to destroy this system is an easy task. Ask Russians about the righteous Bolsheviks (the majority of ‘deciders’ among victors of the revolution were Jewish) who always knew ‘what was better.’ Their slogan was “first we must destroy the old world.” And then came a network of murderous concentration camps GULAG. The best and brightest were eliminated as required by political correctness. At least, Russians had a common culture and the perseverance to restore their country. Do wokes have either perseverance or common culture?

    It is secondary, which Party is in power. The Law should be non-negotiable. The same kind of scum that gave us the murder of JFK and RFK, has come out victorious now by delivering the cognitively impaired Biden (who is devoid of a single moral fiber in his system) and power-thirsty promiscuous Harris (the least successful candidate for POTUS — she was politically dead after primaries).
    https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/10/05/kamala-harris-unlawful-unprincipled-un-american/

    The woke fools, ignorant and ‘progressive,’ are for a huge surprise. Bush & Cheney treasonous corporation has inflicted a deadly blow to the US Constitution; Obama and Clinton have finished the Republic. At least Trump tried to save the US from another war adventure. But that was not to the liking of the MIC, the Lobby, and financial Squid. The ‘intelligence’ services and presstitutes of MSM were called for rescue and the Deciders (always war profiteers) have got their wish — a successful color revolution in the US. The wokes and ‘progressives’ sided loud and clear with mega war profiteers. Well, the ‘progressive’ wokes are going to experience the run of history over their own skin.

    • Agree: Iris
  418. annamaria says:
    @P.A.Semi

    “When the judeo-bolshevik AP agency prematurely declared US election winner on anniversary of Bolshevik Revolution of 1917…”

    Yes, you are correct! The ZUSA owners had declared the victory of the Russiagate Color Revolution on November 7th, the anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. What a loop in time and space.
    The legacy of Jacob Schiff and the investment banking firm of Kuhn, Loeb, and Company lives on in the US, the US populations being on the receiving end of the legacy: https://rielpolitik.com/2020/01/26/hidden-history-who-financed-bolshevik-revolution/

  419. red 22 says:

    I think in person voting on election day is the solution.
    I’m proud of President Trump & Vice President Pence.

  420. What MSM is trying to hide : Articulate extended description of MASSIVE voting fraud in Detroit.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/798796260

    Pass it on.

  421. Rurik says:
    @annamaria

    Dear annamaria,

    Now tell us, ‘LoudnClear,’ how democratic was the color revolution (coded Russiagate) run by certain Hilary Clinton, the butcherss of Libya? How sweet is your tolerance towards the Clinton-paid hire — the foreign agent Steele — supported by the treasonous behavior of the FBI… Dems have become inseparable from the CIA/FBI.
    Mazel Tov, ‘LoudnClear’!

    You righteous DNC dumped Bernie on Clinton’s orders and then disposed of good woman Gabbard to install the pliable nothingness of the promiscuous Harris. So much democracy!

    You’re a tour de force for truth!

    Thank you

  422. Proggy says:

    You mean the election fraud in 2016?

  423. @geokat62

    I’m just highlighting the fact that all of this SJW race baiting bullshit originates & is mainly funded by people with deep pockets – whites (yes, Zionist/Jews are white too!).

    What disgusts me the most is that there’s always some stupid black simp or black feminazi (with fake hair) who will gladly join in for a quick buck or because they’re totally brainwashed by their (usually white) handlers.

    I certainly don’t see the EurAsians in Russia or China doing this sort of degenerate shit — only sociopathic “Western” Anglos.

    See a similar pattern here?

    The 5 Biggest Threats To Humanity Exposed – by Whitney Webb

    With attention squarely focused on the criminality of politicians, particularly that of the US presidential candidates, it’s easy to overlook the people really responsible for all this chaos. Much of the US’ political landscape for over a hundred years, and arguably long before, has been controlled by a small minority of wealthy families and individuals with a specific agenda. Through political and economic machinations over the years, these groups and their minions have funded both sides of wars and profited from them. They own the corporations who pollute our planet and exploit us all. They own the banks which make us slaves to imaginary debt. They own the politicians and police forces that are meant to serve us, yet they seek to undermine us and our “democracy” at every turn.

    https://www.trueactivist.com/the-5-biggest-threats-to-humanity-exposed/

    • Replies: @geokat62
  424. geokat62 says:
    @Black Picard

    (yes, Zionist/Jews are white too!)

    They may look white, but they certainly don’t self-identify as white…

    What disgusts me the most is that there’s always some stupid black simp or black feminazi (with fake hair) who will gladly join in for a quick buck or because they’re totally brainwashed by their (usually white) handlers.

    Fact is, they’re being brainwashed by their (usually “fellow white”) handlers.

    See a similar pattern here?

    There’s definitely a pattern, alright. But if you’re seeing “Western” Anglos as the catalyst for what’s been unfolding on the streets of many major American cities, you need to refocus your lens.

    Truth is, these “Western” Anglos have been duped into believing they are the foot soldiers in a battle against “hate” and are keen on ushering in a world filled exclusively with likeminded “progressives.” They are simply puppets, doing the bidding of their puppet masters.

  425. Simply says: • Website
    @anonymous

    None of what you said is true.

  426. Simply says: • Website
    @Johnny EU

    It’s not just ballet stiffing, which is a democrat tradition.
    Mailing ballet theft
    Ballet Harvesting targeting eldery
    Dead people voting, they had almost 70 that were born in the 1800s, many more that weren’t that registered and voted after death.
    Throwing out absentee ballets from Military
    Refusal to let legal republican poll watchers observe the count
    Maybe the biggest thing, it the software flipping votes from Trump to Biden. This was caught in a coup,e states in republican districts, so they suspected something was wrong. But I also saw a clip of CNN election coverage where they accidently showed 20,000 Trump votes flipping to Biden in PA less than 30 seconds. Just how many vote really got flipped? We need hand recounts.

  427. Anonymous[597] • Disclaimer says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Like we know who any of you people are! Signing in as Verymuchalive means nothing more than anonymous. Sign in with your name and address, then we’ll talk, otherwise you are as anonymous as I am.

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