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Washington is picking yet another fight with China. On top of the trade war we now have the coronavirus war. China is accused of being responsible for the virus by withholding information about it. Some in Washington want to make China pay for the cost of the virus by reneging on US debt held by China in the form of US Treasuries.

What information about coronavirus is China supposed to have withheld?

That China was doing coronavirus research? How could this information have been withheld when the US State Department knew about it, the N.I.H. was funding it, and US scientists were complaining about the danger?

That coronavirus was ravaging Wuhan? How was this information withheld when it was in the media every day?

The United States and its vassals knew about the virus outbreak in China two months prior to its outbreak in the West and did nothing. Through either inaction or intent, the US, Canada, and Europe imported the virus. The governments refused to stop flights in and out of China and to prevent cruise ships from welcoming passengers from infected areas. Governments did not want to interfere with profits, which came before public health. Absolutely nothing was done. No efforts were made to stockpile protective masks and gear, or to protect nursing homes, or to segregate hospital facilities, or to think outside the box about treatments. The Swedish government was so unprepared that it did not even try to do anything and just let the virus run its course with devastating effects on the elderly. [Note: There is much disinformation about Sweden from those who believe the virus is a plot to impose police state controls, such as claims that Sweden has kept the economy open without paying for it in a higher death rate and is gaining “herd immunity” against Covid-19. These claims are contradicted by news reports. For example: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-world-health-organization-said-lessons-could-be-learned-from-sweden—now-its-daily-deaths-are-soaring-2020-05-21 and https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/just-7-per-cent-of-stockholm-had-covid-19-antibodies-by-end-of-april-study-sweden-coronavirus .]

In an attempt, more or less successful, to reduce the infection rate so that health facilities were not over-burdened, every other country imposed social distancing rules, bans against crowd events, and workplace closures. As little was known about the disease and the Chinese mortality rate was believed to be vastly understated, there was no responsible alternative to the so-called “lockdowns.” It remains to be seen whether the concern for profits has produced a premature reopening that will result in a second wave of rapid infection rates. Many suspect that Big Pharma and Bill Gates want to keep the infection spreading in order to panic us into being vaccinated with an inadequately tested vaccine.

The blame China game is really an effort to cover-up the failure of Western governments to deal with a crisis.

The failure of governments to deal with crisis is ubiquitous. Just think Katrina, the hurricane that devastated New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. If you don’t remember or are too young to have experienced the 2005 hurricane via TV, read Douglas Brinkley’s The Great Deluge ( https://www.amazon.com/Great-Deluge-Hurricane-Katrina-Mississippi-ebook/dp/B000GCFX5Y/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Great+Deluge&qid=1590082177&s=books&sr=1-1 ).

Everyone knew that the levies protecting New Orleans and surrounding areas were unable to withstand a storm of Katrina’s intensity. The city was a bowl waiting to fill up with the water that wiped out 80% of New Orleans and 150 miles of Gulf Coast communities. Evacuation orders came too late. There were no steps taken to evacuate those without cars and resources. The sick and elderly were left in place. The few steps that were taken to assemble buses, boats, and first responders located the scanty resources in areas that flooded. The New Orleans Police Department went AWOL. Some joined in the looting. FEMA was a total failure. President George W. Bush and Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff were not focused on the unfolding tragedy but on their creation of a terrorist hoax that was used to justify 20 years of US bombing and invasions of Middle Eastern and North African countries. As Bush had deployed Louisiana’s National Guard to Iraq, the Louisiana governor had to borrow guardsmen from other states.

The US Coast Guard, Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries personnel, and private individuals formed the force of first responders. People from Louisiana and from other states showed up on their own time, their own money, and with their own boats and began organizing rescues. There were many heroic and generous people involved in the rescue. As most of the rescuers were white southerners and most of the rescued were black, it put the lie to the propagandistic picture of the white southern racist. For example, Sara Roberts and her husband Buisson, a descendant of Confederate General P.G.T.Beauregard, organized the Cajun Navy. Sara enlisted clients of her accounting firm who came up with 35 boats and crews to man them. One of her clients, Ronny Lovett, paid his construction crews triple wages for their rescue time and spent $200,000 of his money equipping the boats with food, water, medical supplies, chain saws, life jackets, spotlights, ropes and whatever else could contribute to successful rescues. It was individual citizens, not the governments in New Orleans, Louisiana, and Washington that rescued many thousands of people who otherwise would have perished.

From its founding day, New Orleans was a man-made disaster waiting to happen. Dredging, canals, watercourse alterations, pipelines and a variety of other environmental damaging mistakes had over the years destroyed the wetlands that protected the city and Gulf Coast. In order to serve private profit, failure was built into the system. The Great Deluge is an external cost of a political and economic system that puts private profits first.

ORDER IT NOW

We are undergoing it again at this moment as areas of Michigan are inundated from floods caused by dam failures. One of the dams, the Edenville Dam was a long known public safety hazard . Boyce Hydro, the owner of the dam, repeatedly failed despite the intervention of regulators to address the known risk. Not only was Boyce Hydro negligent, but also were the government authorities that permitted the known risk to persist unaddressed. The lost of life and property from the flooding is an external cost imposed on third parties by Boyce Hydro whose agenda was limited to its profits.

It is as difficult to understand the liberal and progressive belief in government as it is to understand the libertarian belief in the efficacy of the invisible hand that allegedly causes private greed to serve the public’s interest. Humans are a built-in failure machine. Their time perspective is short term. They are always surprised by the unintended consequences of their own thoughtless actions and inactions.

Throughout America, state, local, and federal government epitomize failure. Trillions of dollars have been poured into weapons systems that cannot be used without destroying the United States along with the rest of the world, while dams fail, bridges collapse, communities deteriorate, and homelessness grows. The government in Washington spends time, effort, and money manufacturing enemies to justify the budget of the military/security complex, while jobs and the US economy are offshored, the environment is degraded, and health care needs go unaddressed. The US rivals third world countries in terms of the percentage of its population that has no savings, no access to health care, and no prospects for advancement in life.

But we can blow up the world several times over and make mindless interventions in the natural environment that multiply the destructive power of storms, heavy rains, and other natural phenomena.

Another election approaches and yet again there is no acknowledgement of the real problems our country faces or any interest in discussing what to do about them. America and the Western World in general are simply going to drown in their unaddressed problems just as New Orleans drowned in Hurricane Katrina.

(Republished from PaulCraigRoberts.org by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. The libertarian invisible hand is nothing but the acts of free individuals, coordinated through voluntary exchange and cooperation, like those you described as responding to Katrina when the government failed.

    The government is mostly what the rich do with other people’s money.

    • LOL: James Stark
  2. The only thing that could save us is the advent of a true AI Singularity.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  3. Mr Roberts having read you for years my impression is that you would like too see manufacturing return to the USA? If I’m not mistaken you were behind Trump on his desire to do just that! If anything at all has been learned from this political nuclear blast it is that we cannot rely on the essentials of living from outside sources “countries”. So president Trump wanting to bring manufacturing of at least medical equipment / supplies via tariffs or laws he is war mongering? If you are referring to the U.S. defaulting on it’s debts to China so what? Did you or the Chinese really expect the U.S. would be able to repay that debt ever? We’ve been kicking the can down the road for decades and never reign in govt spending on anything for any reason and we just went trillions more into debt to put a band aid on the lockdowns and shuttering of the economy to “save lives”. You can’t have it both ways!

    • Agree: Dutch Boy
    • Replies: @Biff
    , @anon
  4. swamped says:

    “The United States and its vassals knew about the virus outbreak in China two months prior to its outbreak in the West and did nothing”…not surprisingly since, “little was known about the disease and the Chinese mortality rate was [is] believed to be vastly understated.” So, of course, “No efforts were made to stockpile protective masks and gear, or to protect nursing homes, or to segregate hospital facilities, or to think outside the box about treatments”…as even the venerable Institute for Political Economy was not advising any such measures, let alone less prescient organizations. [Note:Sweden made a reasoned choice to follow a different path, not because it was any more ‘unprepared’. A wise choice as it’s turning out, since the Swedish rate of cases per million of population stands today at 3,251; wheras the U.S. rate per million is at 4,923. The U.S. has 17,681critical cases presently & Sweden, 265.
    “In an attempt, more or less successful”, to reduce the freedom of over-policed citizens, “every other country imposed social distancing rules, bans against crowd events, and workplace closures.” “It remains to be seen whether the [un]concern for” unemployment (39 million now!) by those more comfortably holed-up has produced a delayed reopening that will result in a second Great Depression. But you can bet that the “presstitutes” in the progressive fake news like the Guardian & their avid readers will continue to do everything in their power to bash the Swedish example of free choice.

  5. onebornfree says: • Website

    “The failure of governments to deal with crisis is ubiquitous……Throughout America, state, local, and federal government epitomize failure.”

    Yes, but its no different anywhere else. Government “solutions” never work- they always create even more problems.

    “Everything government touches turns to crap” Ringo Starr

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    The illusion is that other governments do better. They don’t. All governments are “legal” criminal enterprises that constantly lose money, nothing more:

    “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.”Thomas Jefferson

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “Why Government Doesn’t Work”: https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn%27t_Work

    “Regards” onebornfree

    • Replies: @BuelahMan
  6. jsinton says:

    Anyone that still believes that the Chinese only had 4,000 virus deaths, or that they’ve been totally honest and forthright and bear no blame, has totally lost the plot. I’m kinda glad we have a trade war with China because they were getting much too big for their britches and needed to be knocked down a peg. We’ll just have to shop someplace else.

    I don’t care if it’s a “blame game” to score political points at home, all the better. Just blame the right people.

    As far at the government response in the US goes, it’s been a race to see how many constitutional amendments can be violated. Sure, virus bad. No question. But when you calculate total mortality vs average, I think it will be statistically insignificant. I think the talking heads, experts, and decision makers will all have a lot to answer for, but will somehow avoid answering none the less.

    We’ve seen epidemics and pandemics come and go throughout history, but nobody EVER tried to turn off the engine of the economy before. But this economy was like a car running down the highway with a dead battery: We’ll have a helluva time trying to restart it now. The virus was a bug on the windshield. The economy is a freight train, and we’re stuck on the tracks. I think Dr. Roberts will get over his fear of virus and love of China once the rabble runs out of food.

    We should use this opportunity to bring production home, save for a rainy day, and put all those welfare basket cases to work. We won’t have much choice anyway.

  7. onebornfree says: • Website

    “You Cannot Rely on Government- For Anything”:

    “This moment is an opportunity to get across the idea that you cannot rely upon government for anything, not for health, wealth, security, safety, defense, food, toilet paper, rights, a place of worship, rational action, your welfare – anything.

    How reliable is a government that quarantines healthy people rather than sick ones?

    How trustworthy and effective is a government that intentionally throws millions and millions of people out of work?

    How beneficial is a government that multiplies debt burdens to such levels that they can only be paid off by incredibly high taxes that burden you and your children and grandchildren, with no corresponding long-lasting benefits?

    How secure does a government make you that endangers its promises of Social Security and Medicare by enormous new borrowing?

    How trustworthy is a government whose monetary agency breaks the law and rewards its favorites by illegal bailouts?…….”: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/you-cannot-rely-on-government/

    Regards, onebornfree

  8. The blame China game is really an effort to cover-up the failure of Western governments to deal with a crisis.

    The Blame China game is actually a distraction from the virus being used as a reason to gut what was left of the US Constitution and American Values. The virus scare itself is a ploy to manufacture the consent of the governed to finally give up the rights with which they were endowed by their creator.

  9. There is a vitally important positive message in this article by Paul Craig Roberts neatly expressed in this sentence concerning the Katrina disaster:
    “It was individual citizens, not the governments in New Orleans, Louisiana, and Washington that rescued many thousands of people who otherwise would have perished.”
    Brothers and sisters: to fully appreciate the wisdom in this very brief sentence, one has to stop and think – to ponder the implications.
    “Individual citizens” is actually too brief a term. Let’s unpack it a little.
    It was individual citizens of conscience and courage who collaborated to serve the common good regardless of the vicious example of the powers that be. I have a clear recollection of truckloads of clean water being officially turned away at that time.
    There is a clear and instructive message here: a stark contrast between virtue and vice.
    Virtue on the part of honorable ordinary citizens – people of conscience and courage.
    Vice on the part of officialdom where “the quality of mercy” is disallowed, and the underlings are too terrified of their masters to allow themselves the luxury of conscience or honor.
    Surely this clear reality is worthy of the time and effort of a little pondering.
    We ordinary people do want to live an honorable life in an honorable society – don’t we?

    • Thanks: jsinton
  10. onebornfree says: • Website
    @donald j tingle

    “The libertarian invisible hand is nothing but the acts of free individuals, coordinated through voluntary exchange and cooperation,”

    No, no, no! Say it isn’t so! We can’t have that sort of thing going on round here, fer chrissakes!

    What “we” need right now, obviously, is NO freely made choices by free individuals, and many more Paul Craig Roberts [or whomever] approved, government enforced “choices” that force everybody to take its “one size fits all” choices [for whatever].

    After all, as we all know, government “solutions” really do work, as amply demonstrated via the war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on terrorism, government- maintained infrastructure etc. etc. etc., ad infinitum.

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “Everything government touches turns to crap” Ringo Starr

    Read: “Why Government Doesn’t Work”: https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn%27t_Work

    Regards, onebornfree

  11. BuelahMan says:
    @onebornfree

    Hello 1bf,

    PCR’s political connections have tainted his view towards positivity, when they are anything but positive. He also stuck his neck out there with the Covid Fear Tactics. So much so that I doubt he ever retracts and corrects.

  12. Biff says:
    @VinnyVette

    If you are referring to the U.S. defaulting on it’s debts to China so what? Did you or the Chinese really expect the U.S. would be able to repay that debt ever?

    “So what?” Only certain U.S. Bonds are worth anything? You get to pick and choose? If the U.S. declares only certain U.S. Bonds are worthless I’m pretty sure that all U.S. Bonds become worthless in short order.

    For those who want to drop that ball, I’m all in for the entertainment value alone.

  13. @john cronk

    the only thing that can save us to get up and go revolutionize the society…toss the government and create what works..if even by trial and error until perfected..by the people for the people.

    thats the answer..instead there is so much bloody talk as if that is going to solve the problems.

    all that is parasitic is bound to come acropper. as long as institutions do not make the wealth they need to live and function they must get it..rather take it.. from those who do..that is from the people work fr a living

    that is violent exploitation and requires force of law with actual force lurking behind the law. the only way to change that is for the people to move. there is no other social factor capable opf chanaing tsuvh a horrific reality nbut the people in action.

    the longer the people wait the worse the life gets, until what… open genocide by the government to make sure the peopel do not rise?

    we are almost there right now. that is what PCR descibes in thee policies of the govern he has listed. they knew what would take place how many lives would be lost. they want the peopel to die off so they do nothng to prevent death in massive numbers from any looming cause. they do nothing to stop mass death only to max it out

    the next step is organizing the open and direct killing of the people by the numbers

  14. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @donald j tingle

    “The libertarian invisible hand is nothing but the acts of free individuals, coordinated through voluntary exchange and cooperation …”

    It’s two wolves arguing with a sheep over what to have for dinner. Unrestrained greed gave us record trade deficits, terribly expensive healthcare mediated by inefficient third parties, outsourcing, and corrupt government that serves only those who can afford to make a campaign contribution. Libertarian is code for not wanting to contribute to the community but phrased in disingenuous “freedom” rhetoric. It’s the ultimate form of degeneration that dissolves common bonds of nation states leading ultimately to ruin. Ordered East Asian societies such as South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan don’t seem to have the same magnitude and multitude of problems the libertarian West has currently. They’ll be around long after the West crumbles under the strain of mass immigration and demographic change which libertarians have zero defense against. There’s a lesson that. Perhaps lay off the dogma and think for yourself in the future. Those YouTubers who rail against “muh socialism” are mostly losers who have yet to accomplish a single meaningful thing. Not the best people to take advice from.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  15. Franz says:
    @donald j tingle

    The libertarian invisible hand is nothing but the acts of free individuals, coordinated through voluntary exchange and cooperation, like those you described as responding to Katrina when the government failed.

    The libertarian tendency to run down government has seeped its way everywhere in American life.

    It’s had two predictable and totally unremarkable effects:

    Only bribe-taking defectives now hold political office. (Just look at some of the specimens!)

    Only private, international corporations exercise censorship over all of us. With zero accountability.

    Some of us burned out LP cards years ago when we saw this coming on. Libertarianism is freedom for international financiers — everyone else is free to love it or starve.

    • Agree: James Stark
  16. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @VinnyVette

    Mr Roberts having read you for years my impression is that you would like too see manufacturing return to the USA?

    Unfortunately, there is very little chance of that happening despite the rhetoric coming from Donald Trump and his loyalists (no, a few billion dollars won’t bring back trillions in manufacturing). Anything said to the contrary is just wishful thinking. China is a huge country filled with millions of skilled, highly-trained geniuses. Apple’s CEO Tim Cook blatantly stated a few years ago that China is no longer just a low skilled, low wage country. Companies move there because China has the greatest concentration of talent in the world. They graduate more engineers in a year than America graduates graduates over the same period — or at least that was the stat as of about 10 years ago. There is no way 200 million aging* white Caucasians can compete with 1.4 billion high IQ Asians while also being weighed down by diversity and low-wage illegal immigration and all the division and economic waste that comes from demographic change. And there is no way the United States can ever emigrate enough quality people to make up for that deficit. I’m afraid the genie has left the bottle.

    China is destined to overtake the U.S. and soar well beyond it, perhaps having an economy 2 or 3 times larger by PPP around 2040. That was the obvious end result of our trade policies with that country, but the mindless libertarian drones who controlled American society arrogantly thought they’d end up being just another Japan. Oops. It turns out that China being many times larger than Japan was an obvious and crucial difference. Libertarian greed will get you every time.

    What America needed was strong, competent leadership back when it mattered most (the 1950s and 60s); it also needed a population of people with a community mindset. In an alternate universe, perhaps the U.S. could have simultaneously delayed China’s rise while also shoring up its weaknesses until the day when China aged out and became a weak debtor nation filled with elderly people. But no. That requires group cohesion. Libertarian democracy is all about the here and the now. You can’t plan for the future under such an ideology because that requires both forethought and self-sacrifice in the present and the near future.

    A dogma based around maximizing profit and comfort without restraint for a tiny few is guaranteed to lose out in the long run when a strong collectivist competitor enters the fray. Collectivist China has patiently awaited her rise, performing all manner of common goods during that time such as building a large domestic infrastructure and manufacturing base. She is well positioned to dominate a future vacated by the West. Hampered by a democratic system that empowers low-information types to vote on issues they don’t understand, the U.S. upperclass was able to manipulate the system to greedily enrich themselves in the present while trading away the future for everyone else.

    Even to this day, despite the obvious real world failings of that dogma, there are thousands of American conservatives busily indoctrinating younger Americans into this irrelevant “muh socialism, muh communism” nonsense of yesteryear — various unaccomplished YouTubers, actors like Ben Shapiro**, and outfits like PragerU.***

    Virgin Libertarian European Honeybees Versus Giant Hornet Threat:

    Chad Collectivist Japanese Honeybees Versus Giant Hornet Threat:

    [MORE]

    *The United States has a greater proportion of its population over age 70 than China does. Not only is China less diverse and more stable, she is also younger and far larger … and smarter. You don’t compete with that. You lose.

    ** “LET ME MAKE YOU FAMOUS”: HOW HOLLYWOOD INVENTED BEN SHAPIRO

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/how-hollywood-invented-ben-shapiro

    ***PragerU spends enormous sums of money on Facebook advertising to bring in YouTube views. Where are they getting that money from? My guess: from billionaires who want to fund an outfit to brainwash young kids into libertarian politics of low taxes and deregulation — things that make PragerU’s donors money. It’s a gatekeeping operation (as with Shapiro), and it’s not uncommon.

    Turning Point USA:

    Who Funds Conservative Campus Group Turning Point USA? Donors Revealed

    The family foundation of Republican Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner, a former private equity executive worth an estimated $500 million, gave TPUSA $150,000 from 2014 to 2015, according to tax records.

    The family foundation of healthcare products company CEO Vince Foglia and his wife Pat, based in the Chicago area, donated $210,000 to TPUSA from 2013 to 2014.

    In 2015, Home Depot co-founder Bernie Marcus’ foundation donated $72,600 to TPUSA.

    Other donors identified by IBT include:

    Mike Leven, a TPUSA adviser and former CEO of Las Vegas Sands Corporation whose Michael and

    Andrea Leven Family Foundation gave the group $50,000 in 2015. Leven was vice-chair of the Marcus Foundation as of 2015.

    Illinois-based finance executive Peter Huizenga ($50,000 in 2014, according to The Atlantic )

    Chicago jeweler and TPUSA adviser Mike Miller ($50,000 in 2014, according to Bloomberg )

    Dunn’s Foundation for the Advancement of Right Thinking ($20,000 in 2014)

    The Einhorn Family Foundation ($5,000 in 2015). Venture capitalist Stephen Einhorn is a TPUSA adviser.

    https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/who-funds-conservative-campus-group-turning-point-usa-donors-revealed-2620325

    The National Review:

    Google Sponsored CPAC To Shape Narrative On Nationalism

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/01/google-cpac-nationalism-immigration/

    Just a couple among countless other examples. Do you see a pattern here proles? You’re being brainwashed to think unpopular positions are actually en vogue. They aren’t. Billionaire hedge fund managers create and finance these outfits so that younger generations adopt libertarian free market dogma of tax cuts for the rich, limited or nonexistent social programs the rich would otherwise have to pay for, and cheap labor in the form of mass immigration (Charlie Kirk: “we support legal immigration.”). They’re all gate keeping outfits and you aren’t smart enough or diligent enough to see it.

    I could probably add certain dissident right commentators to that list if I wanted to. It’s funny how some of these guys are always careful to remind their YouTube audience to obey the FBI (under the guise of remaining safe) and while they immediately threw away “nationalism” for coronavirus denials and libertarian “muh communism sucks” dogma the millisecond the ruling class felt threatened. Hmmm …

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  17. @donald j tingle

    “The libertarian invisible hand is nothing but the acts of free individuals, coordinated through voluntary exchange and cooperation, like those you described as responding to Katrina when the government failed.”
    In short, whatever resulting “coordination” is a matter of luck. That “actions” are “free” means that, inherently, they may or may not occur.
    Naturally, such inspired voluntary action compares very favourably with criminally negligent government responses…. A response in part premised on, created by, the convenient belief in this invisible, magic hand. A very neat circular chain of events.

  18. Libertarians, as usual, want to confuse government with bad government.
    Yes, the US has “bad” government, as do many other countries.
    It has bad government because citizens for 40 years have been selfishly engrossed in their own material advantage. They happily swallowed Reagan’s “government IS the problem” crap so as to ignore the actual functioning of government with a good conscience. Libertarianism is the greatest self fulfilling prophecy. The harder it works at negligence the better it succeeds with failure.
    Invisible hands, cooperation, good will, decent people… not government. Yet never can they give an alternative to government. Yes, they say, government is OK if it sticks to the basics. These are usually defined as law, order & national security. They seem oblivious to the fact that in a country of 330 million that such a foundation will be way too much or way too little. But that doesn’t really matter — the main point is to whinge, whinge, whinge about government without the obligation to fix it (ie:1 it can’t be fixed).
    As for covid19, some governments have been better than others. Deny it if you want. Libertarianism, after all, is a dream — a dream of benign
    anarchy, of 330 million freedoms all — individually — adapting to each other — like an orchestra without a conductor & only rudimentary musical scores, producing Beethoven’s fifth….

  19. There’s no reason to expect solutions from national electoral politics. The efficacious solutions have nothing whatever to do with electoral pageantry. What you need is peoples’ self-determination to break up the USA. That entails world-standard governance to secure recognition and continuity of obligations. To leave the USA behind, you adopt the world’s acquis.

    https://ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/UniversalHumanRightsInstruments.aspx

    Some of these instruments serve as levers to pop your region out of the US. The Rome Statute, for example. Even if you can’t ratify it as a sovereign state, writing the complementarity principle into law puts your jurisdiction off-limits to federal criminals. The UN Charter and the CAT can have the same effect, as they prevent participation in US government aggression or torture. Comply with universal jurisdiction law and you’ll be shit through a goose. Don’t dick around with org charts, just get the legal authorities right. Your constitution, like all state-of-the-art constitutions, will eventually be one big bill of human rights.

    World-standard governance is best imposed bottom-up at the municipal level in accordance with the PDHRE model. At the same time you’ll need local elites ready to kick out the plug, as in the COMECON countries. If a prospective candidate at the state level does not understand responsible sovereignty, don’t lift a finger to help him, he’s not qualified to run for dog catcher. Local officials have got to be prepared for more state failure – not just incapacity, like Katrina or Deepwater Horizon, but serious crimes against peace or humanity (illegal biological warfare by CIA like AMERITHRAX and COVID-19 combines incapacity and criminality.)

    The local parties will act as enthusiastic enforcers for federal coercion, so don’t waste your breath treating with them. The best parties will have an underpinning of civil society organizations, as the Greens did under Stein (and maybe still do; can’t tell yet.)

    To deal with forcible repression by the US regime, it’s worth studying successful secession like Slovakia and especially Slovenia (the successor state transferred authority to a Slovenian command before seceding.) To deal with economic pressure, MMT is your guide – idle resources work for you in this depression.

    So turn that frown upside down! This is perfectly straightforward. The USA is a worm bolus in the American peoples. We poison it and shit it out.

  20. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    The US rivals third world countries in terms of the percentage of its population that has no savings, no access to health care, and no prospects for advancement in life.

    The large economy size:  three falsehoods in one sentence.

  21. Getaclue says:
    @anon

    Communism is well on its way here, if you haven’t noticed– we’re currently under the boot of the Medical Martial Law engineered by the NWO “Experts” infiltrated into every possible level — we’ll see how much many of the useful idiots who cheered it on actually find it so great when the NWO types fully unleash it for all its worth — when they send the Van for you maybe remember how much “big love” you had for them and thank them for what they do to you?…The USA was sold out at every level by infiltrated in Communists and they have been at work for many, many decades destroying the country — the NWO is just another name for it as is “Globalization”, China is indeed their “Model” for the World. having to get a green light on your phone to walk out the door in the morning or you don’t — Soros is the “god” of the NWO system (he himself has stated he looks at himself that way) take a look at him– no thanks Comrade. https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-true-agenda-of-the-who-a-new-world-order-modeled-after-china/

  22. KenH says:

    I, too, am tiring of the endless China baiting on FOX and kosher right news outlets. But then, leftard media does nothing but praise and defend China. There also seems to be a fair amount of Chinatardism on the dissident right with some extolling the virtues of China and acting like China is a light unto nations. It’s really getting disgusting and getting hard to find objective and dispassionate analysis.

    China is an adversary and needs to be treated as such. I believe the evidence shows that they let the Wuhan virus escape to infect other nations. They do conduct widespread industrial espionage against the U.S. and Chinese students are here mostly to appropriate our science and technology for their motherland.

    Of course, the foregoing paragraph is moot when the U.S. is arguably the most aggressive, militaristic and malign force in the world today whose foreign policy is controlled almost exclusively by Israel and its U.S. diaspora. As a white male I can’t bring myself to root for my own country since the Jewish occupied government and its media hates me and wants me dead. It uses white men as fodder for its wars for greater Israel.

    The Chinese aren’t actuated by anti-white racial hatred and loathing of Western civilization like most of America’s elites and celebrities are.

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