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Americans are so brainwashed that even some of my readers cannot believe that police violence affects more white people than black people. The majorty of victims are white; but dispoportionately (blacks are a smaller percent of the population) they are black. In turn, this disproportion can be explained by the fact that according to US Department of Justice statistics, blacks commit a disproportion of homocides. Being only 13% of the population, blacks commit 52% of murders. Consequently, police regard confrontations with blacks as being more dangerous to police, and this affects police behavior. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Here are recent statistics provided by Statista: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

As I have explained, Americans are unaware of the facts for these reasons:

(1) The presstitutes do not report (except locally) police violence against white people, because it does not fit the white racism explanation.

(2) Unlike blacks, white people do not protest. Whites have not been educated to regard violence against themselves as racism or as something specifically to do with being white. Moreover, there is no national reporting or days of national news coverage of police violence used against whites, so no one, white or black, is aware of the extent of police violence against white people. Therefore, white people tend to give the police the benefit of the doubt. White complaints are also restrained by the fear that coming down too hard on police will make the police more hesitant and less effective in law enforcement.

(3) The Identity Politics that dominates our time has no interest in destroying its white racist explanation of US society. Indeed, the strengthening of the racist explanation of America is the purpose of the New York Times 1619 Project.

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  1. The problem in America is that white people tend to view the police as gods who are always to be trusted to do the right thing, people that have made a big sacrifice to serve their communities. They never think that people might join the police for the power trip and because the benefits are generally quite good(secure job, ok pay compared to other jobs you can get with only a high school diploma, exciting work that is less of a drag than being a security officer or pizza cook and last but not least a decent pension) If white people actually held their police accountable like they do in other countries such as Britain and Germany then brutality would be a very rare occurrence.

  2. Well, you know, rich white people don’t ordinarily get brutalized by out of control cops. Racism has always been an aspect of the class struggle, that scary evil commie thing that can’t really exist in the Land o’ the Free ™. The difference today is that some of us are field hands while others have the “white privilege” of being servants right in ole massa’s house itself.

    The propensity for the most aggressive to deceive and exploit the rest of us is a constant throughout the sorry history of our species. Divide and conquer is the rule of thumb which never fails.

    And what could be more apt than Trump brandishing that Bible the other day? A hateful racist man waving the textbook of hate and racism. From the gleeful ethnocentrism and genocide of the Old Testament to the indefensible antisemitism and exclusivity of “salvation” in the New, that book has inspired more brutality than any other product of depraved human imagination.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @unit472
    , @Parbes
  3. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:

    The US gets recurring expert human rights review as part of its commitments under the Convention to End Racial discrimination (CERD), and it’s always very interesting. Discrimination is a second-order problem in the US. The main problem is that the US government shits on non-derogable rights like life, freedom from torture, and freedom of conscience. It’s an overreaching, violent failure of a state. So the CERD committee has to take the government through little baby steps: interpret what you signed in good faith; don’t try to pick and choose the peoples’ rights, we get them all; don’t undermine your binding commitments with fingers-crossed weasel loopholes; respect your peoples’ rights instead of treating everybody like shit and blacks somewhat worse.

    Step One: purge the degenerate judiciary and law enforcement bureaucracies till violent coercion stops

    Step Two: Take a look at who’s still getting screwed, like poor Indians and blacks.

    Step one will end the USA as we know it. Once that happens step two’s easy.

  4. KenH says:
    @Observator

    Well, you know, rich white people don’t ordinarily get brutalized by out of control cops.

    And neither do rich black people regardless of some their phony sob stories to the contrary.

  5. unit472 says:
    @Observator

    I was poor for much of my life but police do not confront or brutalize people based on their adjusted gross income or bank balance. They don’t even have access to that information. If it were otherwise elderly women would be most at risk of police brutality.

    What will increase your chance of being manhandled by the cops is-
    A. Violating the law
    B. Refusing to cooperate with their investigation of that violation
    C. Not keeping a civil tongue
    D. Physically challenging their authority
    E. Fleeing from them

    That is not to recognize that cops can be surly or even bullies. They deal with the dregs of mankind all day long so they are understandably concerned about their physical safety when dealing with a suspected criminal.

    If you want to contest or complain about police behavior the time and place for that is after they have completed their investigation and or made an arrest not during the process. You cannot talk your way out of being arrested nor interfere with them when they are conducting an investigation. It may inconvenience you if they take you into custody but you still must submit to their authority. You can ask for a lawyer before you answer any questions and, if you have no outstanding warrants, request a reasonable bail from a judge at your preliminary hearing if you are arrested. The police then have to convince a prosecutor they have sufficient evidence to prove you did it and furnishing them with a video of you running away, fighting or behaving like a lout during their interaction with you does not help you.

  6. @unit472

    “fighting or behaving like a lout during their interaction with you does not help you.” no it does not but the use of extreme force characterizes police forces in America more than it does in Europe where suspects are also often armed but not to the same extent as in the states. Police in America have a bad reputation that stems from the militarization of cops, especially in the post 9/11 years, you only have to compare the way police look now(shaved heads, large muscles) to how they looked in pictures from the 70s and 80s to see the changes and militarization that has taken place in departments across America. In Britain police are highly trained to deal with suspects so that the risk of death is minimized, as a result we have a far lower rate of people dying in custody and at the hands of officers than in the States, police officers also look more like regular members of the public so there is less of an “us and them” feeling here though i don’t know how long that will last seeing how big some of the protests in England were recently.

    • Replies: @unit472
  7. unit472 says:
    @Oliver Elkington

    Britain has changed a lot since Roger Miller could sing about ‘Bobbies on Bicycles, two by two” but its police are often useless in fighting the new underclass criminals and street gangs who have sprouted up in the UK. They can barely protect Westminster Palace from knife wielding madmen hacking people to death while a senior police official watches from inside his locked car!

    Yes US cops have become militarized, in part because so many are ex military and in part because so many criminals in America prefer to resist arrest rather than defend themselves in court. The shootings are just the tip of the iceberg. Cops are hurt everyday chasing after and fighting with suspects facing trivial charges that either will be dropped before trial or result in probation if convicted. I don’t understand it but it is the cops reality. Going 100 mph in traffic to avoid a citation or arrest for driving on a suspended licence or to avoid a night in jail for unpaid traffic tickets is typical ‘dindu’ behavior in the US and probably becoming common in the UK as the ‘color of crime’ grows darker.

    • Replies: @Oliver Elkington
  8. Look at the opportunity that Dr. Paul Craig Roberts had, and has, vis-a-vis his skin colour. As I recall the Reagan administration had very few people of colour standing beside Reagan in the Oval Office, but whitey sure had that opportunity to show the world how truly incompetent he really is when it comes to money, or Economics proper.

    Not only is PCR incompetent with regard to Economics but he is equally as incompetent in the Social Sciences as his discipline is indeed the Dismal ‘Science’.

    Up yours, Dr. Roberts!

    RW

    • Replies: @Tall Guy
  9. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Americans are so brainwashed that even some of my readers cannot believe that police violence affects more white people than black people.

    Who has brainwashed Americans? The Zionist MSM. And among the Zionists, the Hebrew racists/Talmudists are the most sophisticated and enduring brainwashers in history. Consequentially, you’ll get people who see themselves as “progressives” and people who see themselves as “conservatives” both doing the bidding of fascist Israel, which is the only thing that both sides can publicly agree upon (that, and the other staple of Zionist dogma, the Holocaust).
    https://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2020/06/mandatory-holocaut-psyops-bill-passes.html

    People who are lucid, intelligent and objective can see the problem, people who are low IQ or have been brainwashed or who are just plain greedy (like the corrupt shysters who run Congress) can’t or won’t see the problem.

    “Behold, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.”

    Americans have lost their way because they’ve allowed the Nest of Vipers or the Synagogue of Satan or however you want to think about the Talmudists and the Zionists to take control of their country.

  10. @unit472

    “but its police are often useless in fighting the new underclass criminals and street gangs who have sprouted up in the UK. They can barely protect Westminster Palace from knife wielding madmen hacking people to death while a senior police official watches from inside his locked car!” uselessness is defined by how effective the police have been by reducing crime in an area, in America i hear of huge areas in cities marred by crime and a higher homicide rate in nearly every state than in any British county, you may blame this on a higher proportion of non whites but that is non forgetting that many cities in the UK now have a non white majority. The incident in Westminster was a very rare event and would probably not have been avoided with a more well armed bobby, especially considering that Westminster is the only place where half of the cops carry guns. Perhaps the justice system is a bigger problem in America seeing as so many would rather resist arrest than end up in court?

  11. The cops aren’t perfect, God knows, but how many who comment on (or merely read) this site would work for what they make?

    Slightly angered at Dr. Roberts for this post; he’s usually brighter.

  12. Tall Guy says:
    @Robert White

    It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people can be. No, not Reagan or his advisors, but this commenter, Mr White. People who read things and know things and pay attention, know that arch liberal and number one rival of Reagan when he was President, Ted Kennedy,opined that Reagan was, in the words of Kennedy a few years later: “A truly great President” When even your # 1 opponent in the Congress says that, that should carry a lot of weight.

    The lack of Blacks standing next to Reagan had to due with the decision that Black voters made in the 60’s to vote as a block for the Democratic party, regardless of the quality of the candidates. No President names supporters of their opponent to their cabinet. This block vote for the Dems is likely the biggest strategic mistake in US history. It allows both parties to ignore Black concerns–if you are for sure going to get either 95% or 5% of the Black vote no matter what you do, there is no need for our slimy political types to pay any attention.

    If just once, the Black vote suddenly went 30%-70% for R’s and D’s, every poltico would suddenly be listening VERY carefully to Black concerns. I’d like to see that happen.

    • Agree: Oliver Elkington
    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Loup-Bouc
  13. Parbes says:
    @Observator

    “…that Bible…..that book has inspired more brutality than any other product of depraved human imagination.”

    You forgot the Koran (which is actually a knock-off of the Old Testament, that was merged with and adapted to the preexisting primitive Arab pantheon). No single book in human history has inspired as much vile, depraved, feces-brained barbarism as the Koran.

    You come across as an emotion-driven and ignorant propagandist.

  14. Loup-Bouc says:

    Dr. Roberts’s article, “All Races Suffer from Police Violence,” is invalid. His article depends on its main premise. His article’s main premise is invalid. Therefore, his entire article is invalid.

    His article’s main premise occurs in its first paragraph’s sentences 2,3,4,and 5, the authority cited at the close of the first paragraph, and the second paragraph & the authority cited at the close of that paragraph:

    [MORE]

    *** The majorty of victims are white; but dispoportionately (blacks are a smaller percent of the population) they are black. In turn, this disproportion can be explained by the fact that according to US Department of Justice statistics, blacks commit a disproportion of homocides. Being only 13% of the population, blacks commit 52% of murders. Consequently, police regard confrontations with blacks as being more dangerous to police, and this affects police behavior. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

    Here are recent statistics provided by Statista: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

    The first authority adduces mere raw, greatly questionable raw “statistics.” The first authority purports to put the “Number people shot to death by the police in the United States from 2017 to 2020, by race.” Those “statistics” tell NOTHING of whether the shootings were criminal homicides. They do not tell the ethnicities of persons who, allegedly, did the shootings. They do not tell the number of homicides caused OTHER THAN BY SHOOTING.

    Those “statistics” beg several questions, e.g., these:
    (a) How many shootings were done by persons of one ethnicity or another?
    (b) How many non-shooting-caused deaths were ACTUALLY results of homicidal crimes?
    (c) Of the shooting-caused deaths, how many were ACTUALLY results of homicidal crimes?
    (d) Of the deaths charged to, or judicially adjudged to be, “homicide,” how many were actually NOT homicide-caused? [Many homicide charges are false, as this comment shows below.]
    (e) Of the charges that alleged homicides were caused criminally by Blacks, how many were false charges? [Cf. (d), immediately above.]

    The second authority purports to put numbers of homicides and demographics of “perpetrators,” victims, circumstances. But the “statistics” derive from law enforcement agencies. See pages 1,34-35 of the second authority.

    The agencies’ “statistics” include both “homicides” that were subjects of arrests AND ESTIMATES of “homicides” respecting which no arrests are reported. Since the “statistics”-reporting law enforcement agencies included the U.S. Department of Justice, perhaps the “statistics” included records of prosecutions, perhaps even records of homicide convictions. See pages 34-35 of the second authority.

    Therefore (as this comment will illumine further in the following text), the second authority’s “statistics” are invalid & unreliable.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: BELOW THIS COMMENT WILL REFERENCE CERTAIN OTHERS OF MY COMMENTS. THIS COMMENT WILL CITE THOSE OTHER COMMENTS BY DATE, TIME, AND COMMENT NUMBER. ALL THOSE OTHER COMMENTS APPEAR UNDER RON UNZ’S ARTICLE “RACE AND CRIME IN AMERICA,” UNZ REVIEW (20 July 2013), https://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/
    PLEASE SEE https://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/ TO READ THOSE OTHERS OF MY COMMENTS.

    Non-race-addressed/non-ethnicity addressed, unassailable scholarly research has proved:
    * About 60% of murder convictions are false.
    * About 36% of rape convictions are false.
    See, E.G., Samuel R. Gross, Kristen Jacoby, Daniel J. Matheson, Nicholas Montgomery, EXONERATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES 1989 THROUGH
    2003, 95 Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology 523, at 529 (2005),
    https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=7186&context=jclc SEE ALSO:
    http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf [specially relevant to false convictions of Blacks]
    AND https://time.com/wrongly-convicted/ [all “races”/”ethnicities”]
    AND https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/251115.pdf [all “races”/”ethnicities”]

    False Black convictions occur much because, even now, U.S. jurisdictions (state & federal) & many U.S. judges & juries act per anti-Black bias (bias displayed by Ron Unz & several Unz Review writers, like Eric Striker & John Derbyshire & many Unz Review readers). The judicial case-reports bear myriad federal cases in which the Supreme Court and federal appellate courts have held criminal process unconstitutionally biased against Blacks. I shall not clutter this comment with citations. Any competent criminal lawyer or constitutional law scholar will agree.

    False convictions occur also because of the plea-bargaining system. Thirty years ago, 20% of accuseds refused pea bargains and chose criminal trial. In recent decades, defendants chose trial in less than three percent of state and federal criminal cases. In the remaining 97 percent of cases, accuseds were convicted according to plea bargains.
    * https://www.innocenceproject.org/guilty-pleas-on-the-rise-criminal-trials-on-the-decline/
    * https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/prisons-are-packed-because-prosecutors-are-coercing-plea-deals-yes-its
    * https://bja.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh186/files/media/document/PleaBargainingResearchSummary.pdf

    Blacks are falsely arrested, prosecuted, and convicted more than all others. See also, e.g., my Comment # 160 (February 19, 2020 at 10:38 pm GMT). One reason is that most jurisdictions (federal & state) mandate minimum sentences, rather than let judges exercise sentencing discretion, as had been true from 1788 until the mid 1990s. Often the minimum sentences are harsh. Threatened by chance that a jury will convict & the judge apply a harsh minimum sentence or worse sentence, many INNOCENT accuseds accept prosecutors offers sentences lower than the minium, in exchange for the accuseds’ pleading guilty.

    Such is so in cases of Black accuseds markedly more than in cases of accuseds of other ethnicities, because of , e.g., these matters:
    (a) Blacks tend to be less able to HIRE adequate defense rather than rely on an overworked, less-competent public defender [Ineffective defense counsel is the overwhelmingly most common criminal case habeas corpus claim. See, e.g., https://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/FHCRCSCC.PDF
    (b) mean Black IQs range from 85 to 70 [see below] and, together with little and poor education [a fact inarguably true], that disability hampers a Black accused’s being able to aid his attorney’s defending him or understand the law-enforcement/criminal-procedure system enough to appreciate whether truly he suffers a high-odds risk of conviction and severe sentencing.

    One needs no statistical evidence to argue that very often federal, state, & local cops arrest many Blacks falsely & that too often Blacks are prosecuted & convicted falsely. For many decades, myriad press reports, even video-records, have documented cops arresting Blacks without actual probable cause — oft without any, legal cause or with planted or other fraudulent evidence — and even battering or killing the arrested or would-be-arrested Blacks. For more than a century, many Blacks have been convicted of rapes never committed by anyone. Of the percentage falsely convicted of murder or rape [see supra], surely many are falsely-convicted Blacks. See also comment # 172 (February 21, 2020 at 4:21 am GMT), which does NOT argue that “abused” Blacks’ crimes are justified or excusable. Merely does it offer one (of many) indices that “Blacks” are not genetically disposed to commit crime.

    Blacks have been impoverished, oppressed, and non-educated, poorly educated, or mal-educated greatly more than others have. Black native intelligence is markedly less than that of Jews, East Asians, and non-Jewish Whites, and slightly less than that of New World Hispanics and indigenous Americans. Poverty, ignorance, bad education, and lesser intelligence correlate significantly with criminal behavior. See. e.g., these sources:
    * Rushton & Jensen, “Race and IQ: A theory-based review of the research in Richard Nisbett’s Intelligence and how to get it,” The Open Psychology Journal, 3, Article 9-35 (2010), https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2011-18869-001 — “Jewish” mean IQ = 113, East Asian (106), White (100), Hispanic (90), South Asian (87), Black American (85), sub-Saharan Black (70)
    * Herrnstein & Murray, THE BELL CURVE (New York: Free Press 1994)
    * Rushton & Jensen, THIRTY YEARS OF RESEARCH ON RACE DIFFERENCES IN COGNITIVE ABILITY, Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 2005, V. 11, No. 2, 235-294 (Amer. Psychological Assoc.), https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf, [Jews score highest in IQ testing, but other considerations also indicate that Jewish intelligence is highest; among such other considerations is brain size (brain sizes of Jews & East Asians being greatest) & East Asian IQ being second greatest (& East Asian mean IQ is 106, versus Jewish mean IQ of 113, versus mean non-Jewish White IQ of 100)]
    * Arthur Jensen, BIAS IN MENTAL TESTING (THE FREE PRESS, Macmillan, NEW YORK 1980) at p.359 [“A cross various racial and social-class groups, the prevalence of delinquency is approximately the same at any given IQ level. …[I]f one controls for IQ, the marked racial and social-class differences in delinquency rates disappear. Minority racial and ethnic groups with mean IQs at or above the general population mean, such as Orientals and Jews, show correspondingly lower rates of delinquency to the same extent that minorities with mean IQs below the population average show correspondingly higher rates.”]
    * Arthur Jensen, “How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?” (Univ. of Calif., Berkeley, first published in Harvard Educational Rev., Vol. 39, No. 1, Winter 1969, pages 1-123): “…Jewish immigrants, whose offspring are usually…have…higher mean IQ than the general population, show fewer disadvantageous reproductive conditions and have the lowest infant mortality rates of all ethnic groups, even when matched with other immigrant and native born groups on general environmental conditions….”

    But such statistics or related considerations CANNOT PROVE: (a) that the ACTUAL Black violent crime rate is what law enforcement agencies’ “statistics” suggest (invalidly); (b) that the relative frequencies of ACTUAL Black CRIMES versus ACTUAL White, Asian, or Hispanic crimes is what law enforcement agencies’ “statistics” suggest (invalidly); or (c) that Blacks are genetically disposed to commit crime.

    The law enforcement agencies’ “statistics” are invalid for still other reasons.

    Law enforcement agencies’ “statistics” do not account the reality that many, many U.S. “Blacks” are not Black, but part Black & part White or East Asian or indigenous American, or some combination of more than one non-Black ethnicity & Black. A vital question is the extent to which non-Black genes affect criminal tendencies (if they exist) among those who are partly Black.

    A related question is whether, and if so to what extent, e.g., a Nigerian African Black racial strain may correlate with violence or a certain criminal behavior more than may another Black African “racial” strain. Then, inherent in such question is the more critical question of which, if any, Nigerian ethnic groups are more violently criminal than others and, if any is such, then why — genetic structure, culture, pressure wrought by other Nigerian ethnicities……? [Nigeria has 250 ethnic groups. The most populous and politically influential include: Hausa and Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo (Ibo) 18%, Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio 3.5%, Tiv 2.5%.]

    Then, too, since, in Africa (then & now) some Blacks are part Arab or part Berber or part Somali or part Etheopean (which ethnicities some anthropologists call non-Negroid), a valid statistical analysis ought to include THAT consideration — just as it ought to include consideration of the reality that horn-of-Africa Blacks (like Kikuyus) are genetically different, anatomically, and physiologically different from West African Blacks, like Nigerians.

    Law enforcement agencies’ “statistics” do not account such a matters.

    To determine, even in a statistically primitive way, the relative frequency of Blacks’ ACTUALLY committing crimes (compared with the relative frequency of sundry non-Black ethnic groups’ ACTUALLY committing crimes, a statistician must know much more than the mere rates of arrest or conviction. But law enforcement agencies’ “statistics” are raw frequency-numbers AND MERE ESTIMATES that do account sundry necessarily statistically significant matters other than the mere fact of the relative conviction rates of Blacks, “Whites,” etc.

    A major, incurable, problem is that many statistically necessary variables are nonquantifiable — variables including, but not only, those addressed above (like the synergistic effect of each particular accused’s education, IQ, the accused’s attorney’s and the prosecutor’s competence-levels, whether the judge or the jury was biased against the accused and, if so, to what extent).

    Also, even if one assumes that all pertinent variables are quantifiable, law enforcement agencies’ “statistics” fail because they are mere raw relative frequency statistics AND MERE ESTIMATES, rather than outcomes of (multivariate) multiple regression analysis run through (refined by) Bayesian probability analysis. See. e.g., my comment # 184 (February 22, 2020 at 11:00 pm GMT) AS CORRECTED IN Comment # 186 (February 23, 2020 at 2:10 am GMT).

    Even if a competent statistician were to attempt to include the law enforcement agencies’ arrest-statistics, crime-charge statistics, and perhaps conviction-statistics, and even the agencies’ mere crime ESTIMATES in a multiple regression analysis that purported to account all pertinent variables & then in a Bayesian probability analysis, the outcome would be invalid: Since many variables would be “fuzzy” (nonquantifiable or fudged), valid multiple regression analysis would be impossible. Since no quantifiable “prior probability” could be established, valid Bayesian analysis could not occur. Since many posterior variables would be nonquantifiable, Bayesian analysis would be absurd.

    But even if one disregards nonquantifiability, lack of multiple regression, lack of Bayesian analysis, and all the rest of the problems outlined above, one encounters other statistical problems, vital ones. One problem is lack of F ratio analysis, which determines whether two groups’ variances (hence their means) are “the same” — not significantly different. F-Ratio is found by F = MSbetween ÷ MSwithin (where MS = Mean Square). See, e.g.,
    https://opentextbc.ca/introbusinessstatopenstax/chapter/the-f-distribution-and-the-f-ratio/
    AND https://blog.minitab.com/blog/adventures-in-statistics-2/understanding-analysis-of-variance-anova-and-the-f-test
    AND http://jukebox.esc13.net/untdeveloper/RM/Stats_Module_4/mobile_pages/Stats_Module_410.html

    In his article “What Every White Parent Should Explain to Their Children About Blacks — The Talk’,” Russian Insider 1 June 2020, John Derbyshire tries to show that Blacks are markedly more violent and violent crime inclined that other ethnicities. https://russia-insider.com/en/what-every-white-parent-should-explain-their-children-about-blacks-talk-john-derbyshire/ri30423 Mr. Derbyshire relies much on “La Griffe du Lion,” Volume, 2 Number 11 (December 2000), which presents statistics and statistical graphs that purport to show violence tendencies and “Criminality” of various “races,” including the Black “race.”

    Example: One La Griffe du Lion graph displays three slightly overlapping statistical curves, one put as representing Black aggressiveness tendencies, a second White tendencies, the third Asian — though, invalidly, the graphs do not distinguish among “White ethnicities, among Asian ethnicities, or among Black ethnicities.

    For more than a few reasons (e.g., racial mixings, race-related economic and education differences, race-related IQ & brain-size differences, race-related religious differences), the three graphs do not suffice. A necessary statistical question is whether the three graphed group-tendencies (variances, hence means) are actually different. That matter requires F ratio analysis.

    The La Griffe du Lion implicit hypothesis is that the three “racial” group’s variances (hence means) are different. But if F ratio analysis shows that MSbetween ÷ MSwithin = 1 (or ≈1), then the hypothesis fails (the null hypothesis obtains). Hence, if, e.g., Black-group/White-group MSbetween/MSwithin = 1 (or ≈1), then the two groups have the same means (or their means are not significantly different) and the null hypothesis obtains, so that group-testing or population-sampling was erroneous (or perhaps consciously biased).

    La Griffe du Lion’s statistics and conclusions are at best suspect for (a) failing to account, e.g., racial or ethnic groups within categories — “Asian,” “Black,” “White” [all three such terms being very ambiguous, since, e.g., “White” includes sundry genetically diverse ethnicities, like Turkic, Arab, Finnish, Slavic, Teutonic, Italic…….) and “Asian” includes several genetically different ethnicities, e.g., Han Chinese, Korean, Manchurian, Korean, Japanese Mongol, Indian (itself diverse) and western Indochinese (Thai, Burmese, Malay……., just as “Black” is markedly ambiguaous (see above)] and (b) failing to present F ratio analysis.

    La Griffe du Lion attempts to account the nonquantafiable problems addressed above. See “La Griffe (etc.) under its heading “APPENDIX A. Standard Values of Fuzzy Variables.” [“Fuzzy” is a fudge term pretending to substitute for nonquantifiable.] But La Griffe du Lion’s attempt fails. La Griffe du Lion’s “fuzzy” variable accounting is quite specious as is the “principle of indifference,” which is an oft-impugnable misapplication of the law of large numbers.

    See, e.g., Leonard R. Jaffee, Leonard R. Jaffee, Of Probativity and Probability: Statistics, Scientific Evidence, and the Calculus of Chance at Trial, 46 University of Pittsburgh Law Review 925 (1985), at pages 981-1069, AND Leonard R. Jaffee, Prior Probability—A Black Hole in the Mathematician’s View of the Sufficiency and Weight of Evidence, 9 Cardozo Law Review 967 (1988), for further understanding of problems of prior probability and nonquantifiable of “fuzzy” variables, the principle of indifference, nd related problems.

    For some important further details of the indices of invalidity of the law enforcement agencies’ statistics that form the essential premise of Dr. Roberts’s article, see also my below-listed much earlier comments:
    * Comment # 151 (February 19, 2020 at 3:05 am GMT)
    * Comment # 158 (February 19, 2020 at 10:04 pm GMT)
    * Comment # 160 (February 19, 2020 at 10:38 pm GMT) as corrected in comment # 161 (February 19, 2020 at 10:49 pm GMT)
    * Comment # 168 (February 20, 2020 at 10:31 pm GMT)
    * Comment 170 (February 21, 2020 at 12:47 am GMT)
    * Comment # 172 (February 21, 2020 at 4:21 am GMT)
    * Comment # 184 (February 22, 2020 at 11:00 pm GMT) as corrected in Comment # 186 (February 23, 2020 at 2:10 am GMT)

    Dr. Roberts’s arguments are logically, empirically, and statistically invalid & unreliable, even much false or specious. To prove his case, Dr. Roberts must adduce much more, and much better, proof. But no such proof is possible.

    • Agree: Menes
    • Replies: @Menes
  15. ‘All Races Suffer from Police Violence’

    Yeah — but first things first.

    Let’s solve our black problem — then we can move on to our police problem.

  16. @unit472

    It may inconvenience you if they take you into custody…

    Or may not, I suppose, if you’re into being shackled and locked in a cage…

    …but you still must submit to their authority.

    Just shut up and listen, do exactly as you’re told and maybe, maybe they won’t kill you…

    “You Listen! You Obey!”

    Comply or Die!

  17. Bert says:
    @Tall Guy

    The corollary of what you call “the biggest strategic mistake in US history” was Blacks not opposing the illegal immigration of mestizos and Amerindians, who will actually do physically difficult labor. It’s as if Blacks couldn’t see that within a generation progeny of those immigrants would be filling many of the affirmative action slots. Lack of future time orientation is a harsh master.

    • Agree: Loup-Bouc
  18. Loup-Bouc says:
    @Tall Guy

    Among those (like me) who knew how actually Lyndon B Johnson viewed Blacks, too many could not understand Johnson’s pushing, ruthlessly, through Congress the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    In an outed conversation Johnson had with another racist Democrat politician who wondered at Johnson’s championing the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Johnson said: If we pass that Act, the NIGGERS will vote Democrat for eternity.

  19. Menes says:
    @Loup-Bouc

    The judicial case-reports bear myriad federal cases in which the Supreme Court and federal appellate courts have held criminal process unconstitutionally biased against Blacks.

    Blacks are falsely arrested, prosecuted, and convicted more than all others. See also, e.g., my Comment # 160 (February 19, 2020 at 10:38 pm GMT). One reason is that most jurisdictions (federal & state) mandate minimum sentences, rather than let judges exercise sentencing discretion, as had been true from 1788 until the mid 1990s. Often the minimum sentences are harsh. Threatened by chance that a jury will convict & the judge apply a harsh minimum sentence or worse sentence, many INNOCENT accuseds accept prosecutors offers sentences lower than the minium, in exchange for the accuseds’ pleading guilty.

    Agree that the entire criminal justice system is guilty of not upholding the principle of equal justice under the law for blacks. That must change. That is what the protests are all about. No justice, no peace.

    I disagree with your HBD/IQ arguments though. You have bought into that bullshit hook, line and sinker. Please stop using those lies, it discredits you. The IQ of Haiti and Barbados, according to the latest IQ table, is higher than the great majority of the world’s nations, including several european countries. Haiti is almost fully west african and Barbados is >90% west african.

  20. Loup-Bouc says:

    Crude personal insults (e.g., “You have bought into that bullshit”) are not proofs. You do not cite “the latest IQ table.” I cite my sources. Their statistics and method are valid & reliable. I have not seen any work that has disproved them, just politically motivated rants pretending to be serious analyses or valid, reliable counter-statistics.

    Herrnstein & Murray, Rushton & Jensen, Murray alone, and Jensen alone did consistently statistically valid and reliable work that no one has been able to disprove. The contrary arguments are not statistical, but ad hominem attacks or political dross emitted by goody-goody haters of anyone who shows this or that “race” is not smart as another “race.”

    I have taught statistics and written three influential published statistics works. I found no flaw in the statistics or methodology or the publications of Herrnstein & Murray, Rushton & Jensen, Murray alone, or Jensen alone. You prove nothing by asserting that a “latest IQ table” is contrary to the studies of Herrnstein & Murray, Rushton & Jensen, Murray alone, or Jensen alone. The critical matter is a work’s scientific rigor and statistical precision, not a work’s time-date.

    Also, I must doubt the credibility of an “IQ table.” I, a physician and law professor, trust only substantial, well documented, thoroughgoing statistical studies produced with sound scientific method.

    I have read putative racial-statistics publications later than those of Herrnstein & Murray, Rushton & Jensen, Murray alone, and Jensen alone. They were scientifically and statistically invalid — actually, political diatribes pretending to be “science.” Cite your “latest” studies. I will review them. If, actually, they prove your assertion, I will acknowledge so. Mais, citez votre preuve. Sinon, taisez-vous.

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