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We are hearing from many that the world after Covid-19 will be different. The question is: Different in what way? Will it be better or worse?

Elites are working to make it better for them, and worse for the rest of us. About that the evidence is clear. The Big Boys are being bailed out and their debts covered. Everyone else, except those already marginalized and without a recent work record and fixed address, got a month’s rent and extended unemployment benefits.

Big Pharma sees massive profits in the virus, Government sees more power to control

But the disparity in economic benefits is only a part of it. Powerful vested interests, such as Bill Gates and Big Pharma, are determined to vaccinate us all, and to control our movements with an internal passport called “vaccinated, health cleared” or other words to that effect. New tracking procedures and technologies are to be put in operation reminiscent of the “mark of the beast” to police the access of varous categories of people to various areas and benefits.

Experts point out that just as we cannot be vaccinated against the common cold, except perhaps for the past year’s version we cannot be vaccinated against Covid-19 and other mutating viruses, but the experts are already being shouted down. No expert opinion is to be permitted to stand in the way of vaccination profits.

Neither will nutrition and vitamin advocates be allowed to get in the way. Bill Sardi predicts that orchestrated scares generated by mandatory recalls of “toxic” vitamins await us ( https://knowledgeofhealth.com/modern-medicine-laid-bare/ ). Big Pharma is determined to acquire control over vitamins and homeopathic remedies, and the FDA is Big Pharma’s likely pawn.

Vaccination has been elevated above cure, as Big Pharma and its shills such as CNN shout down the positive experience doctors report of successful treatments with Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin, and the effectiveness of Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, and Zinc in strengthening the ability of immune systems to fight off the virus. Big Pharma-influenced medical orthodoxy cannot get out of the box it has been put into. When new thinking and experimentation are needed, those capable of thought are hassled and even blocked by FDA regulations and dogmatism.

The permanent government and its security agencies see in the population’s fear and confusion opportunities to put into place more tyrannical measures, more set-asides of Constitutional Rights, more impairments on free speech. The ability of freedom to resist oppression is ever diminished.

Various descriptions of the expected dystopia are offered on the Internet. But it does not have to turn out this way. It is up to us. Demoralized and fearful, we can accept more government power as we did after 9/11. Instead, we can collectively recognize the massive failure everywhere of Western leadership and construct a more liveable and sustainable society.

The failure of leadership is an opportunity for real change

CNN, the New York Times, and the rest of the controlled media tell us every day that President Trump represents the failure of leadership. But the failure of leadership goes beyond all the leaders of the last 30 years and resides in the system itself. Global, “self-regulating,” greed-driven, financialized, soulless capitalism cannot unite people into a sustainable community.

The failure of leadership resides in the long-term failure of leadership that made Western societies vulnerable by moving high-productivity, high-valued jobs offshore in order to raise corporate profits at the expense of domestic consumer incomes. It means the movement offshore of the ability to produce medicines, N95 masks, and other needed resources for national survival. It means dependency on foreign powers. It means the inability to function without massive imports. However you look at it, globalism is a death sentence. Its only advantage is to the rich, and the advantage comes to them in the form of cheap labor that swells their profits while it shrinks domestic incomes and the purchasing power of the population.

Without incomes to drive the economy, the elites provided loans and expanded credit in order to provide spending power based in personal debt to absorb the offshored production brought home to sell in American markets. The cost of college education soared as its quality declined. Education subsidies were cut and student debt substituted in its place. Inflation was understated in order to deny Social Security pensioners cost-of-living increases. Medicare payments to health care providers were squeezed down. The social safety net was ripped again and again. More and more people fell out, and homeless populations grew providing fertile breeding grounds for Covid-19.

The income and wealth distribution in the US went from fair to extremely unequal in a short time as the rich profited from the Federal Reserve pumping trillions of dollars into the prices of financial assets and from corporations buying back their own stock, thus decapitalizing the corporation while taking the company into debt, all for the temporary benefit of higher bonuses for executives and more capital gains for shareholders. The elites killed the economy for short-run benefits to themselves.

These destructive polices were the work of greed-driven short-term thinkers—people whose only vision was “I want even more.” And it is these unworthy people, not their victims, that Uncle Sam is now rescuing. The massive unpayable debt bubble that already overhung the economy is being blown larger. The Federal Reserve and the US Treasury are in the process of destroying the US dollar in futile efforts to save the super-rich from their own greed-driven misbehavior.

In place of this insane approach to the economic crisis, there is a sane approach. The bailed out corporations and banks are in effect being purchased by the government. Therefore, they should be treated as the nationalized corporations that they are. Once nationalized, the government, unlike the corporations, can create the money to pay the salaries and health premiums. The predicted 30 or 40 percent unemployment can be avoided. It is better to pay salaries than to pay unemployment benefits. The psychological difference alone is worth a vast amount.

The inability of the high-cost American private health care system to cope with the present medical crisis is apparent. A profit-driven health care system is the highest cost system to have.

ORDER IT NOW

Profit is built in at every level, which raises costs to levels that private insurance and Medicare refuse to reimburse. The result is shrinkage, not expansion of the system. Just look, for example, at the number of hospitals, especially in rural areas, that have recently closed.

Moreover, the coverage of a private system—and Medicare itself—has massive gaps. The resistance to a nationalized health service is ridiculous, especially as a nationalized service can coexist with a privatized one. Two are clearly better than one.

Nationalization has numerous benefits. It permits the large unwieldly enterprises, created, for example, by the mergers of giant banks like Chase Manhattan and J.P. Morgan, to be broken up and to reestablish the separation of commercial from investment banking. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act and the suspension of enforcement of the anti-trust laws were ignorant policymaking at its worse. Nationalization permits the government to bring home the offshored production of global US corporations and to put the US workforce back to work in middle class jobs. It is win-win for the American people.

Once the giant monopoly corporations are broken up, they can be privatized and returned to private ownership on a fair value basis, not on the giveaway basis of a pennies on the dollar sale. The money the government receives from their sale can be used to retire government debt.

For individuals, the life- and economy-suffocating heavy debts should be written down to levels that can be serviced by their incomes. Michael Hudson and I proposed a “debt jubilee” as a solution: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/03/25/a-brady-bond-solution-for-americas-unpayable-corporate-debt/ Others have taken up our call: https://truthout.org/articles/1200-only-goes-so-far-its-time-to-abolish-debt/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=98cb6aac-8ef8-4e0e-b80e-24a1d1f92ef6

Currently the Federal Reserve is socializing debt without writing it down. This is nonsensical as it bails out debt by expanding it.

In the US there is so much dogmatic prejudice against anything that has a tint of socialism, even as a temporary expedient measure, that thought and sensible action face strong barriers. If we cannot overcome these barriers, we are destined for far more difficult times.

Can community be restored or will nationality degenerate into the clans and tribalism of Identity Politics?

The greatest challenge we face is to restore the concept of community. There was a time when the United States was a community, a unique one as it consisted of a multitude of ethnicities. As each wave of ethnic immigrants arrived, they passed a test on the Constitution, learned the national language, and became assimilated into the American community.

This community has been destroyed by a variety of forces, the latest being Identity Politics. Identity Politics prohibits community by breaking down the population into mutually hostile groups by gender, sexual preference, race, and whatever classification can be invented or imagined. The result is a Tower of Babel. A Tower of Babel is not a community.

Instead of community, the US is a place where hatreds are cultivated with those claiming the status of victims doing the most hating and those assigned the status of victimizer being most hated. Initially, white hetereosexual males were the primary hate objects, but lately we have the transgendered hating the feminists who say that a woman is a woman, not a man who claims to be a woman. The transgendered attacks on well-known feminist leaders are violent in their language and are likely to progress into violent deeds. Various unassimilated immigrant groups battle each other over who controls disputed territory. Israel’s inhumane treatment of Palestinians has enraged Muslim immigrants against Jews. Violent racial attacks on white people are becoming more common.

For decades Women’s Studies have taught hatred of men, and Black Studies have taught hatred of Whites. This taught hatred is now supplemented by the New York Times 1619 Project. In place of assimilation, we now have mutual hatreds. How do we escape from this?

Perhaps the challenge from Covid-19 will force us to come together again in order to prevail over the virus, which in mutated versions might be with us forever. A coming together would be helped by an economic bailout perceived as fair rather than as the one-sided approach that has been taken. A debt jubilee provides the necessary fairness.

The elites by thinking only of their interests are in the way of the opportunity that crisis provides to bring people together. If we can’t be brought back together, we can forget about unity beyond the boundaries of our own victim or identity group. In place of community, we will be organized in clans of separate identities. The absence of unity at home will make us a sitting duck for enemies abroad.

We know what the Dystopian Wish List is. Can we come together with an anti-dystopian wish list as a mutually supportive community or have the elites succeeded in atomizing us into disparate tribal hate groups?

(Republished from PaulCraigRoberts.org by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. swamped says:

    “The elites by thinking only of their interests are in the way of the opportunity that crisis provides to bring people together. If we can’t be brought back together, we can forget about unity beyond the boundaries of our own victim or identity group”…or even more so, within them. Most murders are intra-racial & are especially high among blacks (8 x higher murder rate than for whites). If there’s actually no real unity withIN our own ‘victim’ or ‘identity’ group then there was never any reason to believe there ever could be any unity beyond that. That’s why socialism doesn’t work. The elites aren’t really “in the way” of anyone else’s unity; they just have a better sense of their own interests & unity, which keeps them on top. So “In place of community, we will be organized in clans of separate identities” – as always – where we will continue to tear each other apart. A few of the lucky ones may, through luck or special ability, escape their haggling clans & join the lower ranks of the elites. But most will remain mired in intra-tribal group hate, “atomizing” each another.

    • LOL: James Stark
    • Replies: @animalogic
  2. kb2 says:

    “Civilizations fail when their elites change from an admired dynamic creative class to a despised Establishment of corrupt rentiers, an entrenched governing class unfit to govern.” Toynbee.

    “Its a big club and you and I ain’t in it.” George Carlin.

    • Agree: Quintus, SteveK9, Mefobills
    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Alfred
  3. In your endlesss genius your main export was hate.
    Won’t let the slide under the table.

    • Disagree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  4. Nothing’s going to change much. People will go right back to their idiocy. All the libertarians on here, despite the overwhelming truth that libertarian governments are criminally incompetent clowns while socialist governments at least have a clue, are still toeing their free-market laissez-faire drooling-idiot line.

    The ones who aren’t completely denying people are dying, that is.

    No, the plague proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the utter bankruptcy of the so-called “ideas” of these charlatans and their snakeoil. But, as Barbara Tuchman pointed out in relation to nobody learning the lessons of Crecy, the old ways persevere.

  5. Interesting article. Don’t hold your breath waiting for a ‘debt jubilee’ however. The likelihood of that happening ranges from ‘remote’ to ‘zilch’.

    A ‘debt jubilee’ has two huge problems: it would let too many deadbeats off the hook while endangering the balance sheets of countless healthy and productive companies which have either loaned money in good faith or are stuck sitting on a pile of unpaid ‘accounts receivable’.

    A debt jubilee could end up rewarding too many of the least productive segments of our economy, while potentially penalizing the most efficient and hard-working sectors. The banks won’t allow it and neither will the business community. An across-the-board ‘debt jubilee’ is just too much of a one-size-fits-all approach. Nice idea though. I wouldn’t mind having all my debts wiped clean.

    Lastly, keep in mind that the geniuses in DC still haven’t been able to find a way to reduce the onerous interest rates that are imposed on millions of credit card users, some as high as 25%. This debt load disproportionately affects the working poor. Yet it remains. An across-the-board cut in credit card interest rates deserves serious consideration. It should certainly come before any Third Worldish ‘debt jubilee’.

    It is politically possible that a small, across-the-board reduction in debt could be implemented if the US economy does end up dropping through the floor. So you might be onto something, after all.

    Finally, one small omission of note:

    For decades Women’s Studies have taught hatred of men, and Black Studies have taught hatred of Whites.

    What about ‘Jewish studies’, Mr. Roberts, and the Jewish-dominated study of ‘anti-Semitism’?

  6. BuelahMan says:

    The elites aren’t really “in the way” of anyone else’s unity; they just have a better sense of their own interests & unity, which keeps them on top.

    I think this is the epitome of jewish tribalism at work.

  7. @mark green

    I don’t think you understood that his point is that most of these so called “efficient and hard working sectors” have flopped financially to the point where the government has bailed them out and taken first position on all of their assets. These so called “efficient and hardworking sectors” due to their financial failures have a new owner — the US government.

    That is what first position means. It used to be the banks that held “first position” on all of the assets of businesses. Not now.

    That is the reality. Businesses may scream bloody murder about a debt jubilee, but they will be as powerless to stop it as they as powerless to stop foreclosures from banks.

    As for the deadbeats, much of that meme, may be due to the fact that salaries and wages have sucked for the last fifty years. Maybe livable wages might prove that most people are not deadbeats. Most people really do want to be productive. Then of course there is the competency issue as well in a society that requires average IQs to be a hundred or more just to make a livable wage. What are you going to do with these people. UBI is the only answer, deadbeat or not.

    • Agree: FB
  8. @mark green

    A ‘debt jubilee’ has two huge problems: it would let too many deadbeats off the hook while endangering the balance sheets of countless healthy and productive companies which have either loaned money in good faith or are stuck sitting on a pile of unpaid ‘accounts receivable’.

    What’s the job of a creditor/bank?

    NOT GIVING RETARDED LOANS

    So a Jubilee would indeed give the stick to the right people.

  9. So simple says:

    The anti-dystopian wish list is sitting there on the shelf like copious Russian stockpiles of oral rehydration salts for your corona cruds. Just pop open a can.

    Traditional US statist reform is fixated on programs and org charts. But outside the iron curtain in the civilized world, they are haranguing the USG to adopt world standard governance. You’ll see it again in the 2020 UPR, when it’s streamed live and preserved on video.

    The US or its successor states must execute specific instruments and adopt them in good faith: the international bill of human rights, the UN Charter, and the Rome Statute. That is the minimal baby’s first step of reform.

    The international bill of human rights restores and updates your freedoms with independent review and pressure from the outside world. With review by the charter body ECOSOC, it also reorients your economy. Instead of US state religion of growth and debt, governments are on the hook for real performance in human terms. ECOSOC doesn’t care who owns the means of production. They don’t give a rat’s if you’re socialist or communist or libertarian or neolithic or what. They want to know, Do your peoples have their economic rights? Can everyone claim their right to food, water, housing, health, education, a livelihood, leisure? No? Why the fuck not? This guy says you stiffed him of his right to health, what do you have to say for yourself? Instead of us being on the treadmill, trying not to go broke, ECOSOC puts the government on the treadmill, driving it to give us every last right we’ve got coming.

    The UN Charter is the ultimate authority, and really the sole functioning authority for antiwar reform. Article 2.4. Article 51, really all of Chapter VII. It takes war out of the government’s hands – and until you do that, your kids are going to get their nuts and jaws blown off. It supports economic reform by exacting a commitment to beat swords into plowshares, and give you your plowshares.

    Most importantly, the Rome Statute ends impunity for state crime. It takes away CIA’s get-out-of-jail-free cards, and all the derived forms of lawlessness that CIA lends to its domestic enforcers.

    This is what the USSR did when they collapsed. They grabbed in desperation for a steadying handhold. What they grabbed onto was the Helsinki Agreement. It did their peoples a world of good, as we can see. Now the Russians are the leaders of the free world. States that do this get access to mature institutions and procedures that keep them on track. They get real, protective, tightly-drafted laws, not neo-Soviet red tape like CIA imposed on the US.

    It’s so simple. It’s been staring you in the face for decades. You just have to break out of the brainwashing they give you.

  10. onebornfree says: • Website

    “A profit-driven health care system is the highest cost system to have.”

    Total, 100%, commie horseshit.

    No regards, onebornfree

  11. A very good essay by Mr. Roberts, and I appreciate his decision to allow his many followers to comment on his articles.

    That said, I think is is impossible in the “dystopian” USA for we the people to come together in any kind of “mutually supportive community.” That ship sailed a long time ago with the passage of the 1965 Immigration Act, which changed the demographic make-up of the country forever.

    Since Demography is Destiny, this sinking Titanic cannot be turned around. To me, it is clear that the only possibility for the current dire situation to improve in the long run is for this Panopticon to be broken up into more manageable, more homegenous nation states.

    Can this be accomplished, however? The Tyrant Lincoln, perhaps the worst president ever, showed what happens when rebellious states assert their independence, as permitted by the “dead letter” Constitution. And Lincoln did not have the technology to track dissidents movements, as is now possible by the National Security State.

    There will be pockets of armed resistence to the NWO, but states and the feds have most of the guns, and, if necessary, will not be afraid to use them. This covid-19 scam, or other scams which might follow, will be used as a pretext if the citizens get too uppity. In other words, as in Brave New World and 1984, resistence will be futile. As happened to John the Savage and Winston Smith, the only way out will be Death.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  12. anon[281] • Disclaimer says:

    One critical part of any new start will be transitional justice.

    https://www.ictj.org/about/transitional-justice

    We in America have been under the control of a criminal enterprise. Don’t take it from some disembodied voice on the internets, this is the legal opinion of preeminent international jurist Francis Boyle, who is such a straight arrow that FBI scumbags put him on the no-fly list.

    We are going to have to make some decisions about flipping the small fry so we can nail the CIA nomenklatura, and opting for rehabilitation by truth instead of punishment in some cases. Because we’ve got 70 years of crimes to put to right. CIA started killing and torturing in 1950, then did JFK, RFK, MLK, OKC, WTC I, WTC II, and now the gravest crime of all:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-two-major-waves-of-global-infection-towards-global-contamination/5707588

    CIA development and use of biological weapons in breach of the BWC, the 1925 Geneva Convention, and the Hague Convention Relative to the Opening of Hostilities. Inter lotsa alia Woolsey, Gates, Hayden, Brennan, Haspel got to swing for this.

    • Agree: Robert White
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  13. Dr. P. C. Roberts fails to mention the highly probable fact that nCorona COVID-19 is a Gain-of-Function bioweaponized bioweapon released upon an unwitting world & civilization under the guise of BSL-3 & BSL-4 research run amok & awry leading to global contagion throughout the near entirety of the Western Banking System & Global Fractional Reserve Banking System.

    Macroeconomics fails to trump critical health care in Tertiary Care Hospitals, or professional liability & fiduciary duty, professor.

    Undergirding the system failures by adding illogical reasoning to ameliorate the business cycle is not going to extricate us from the underlying conundrum of pathogenesis when it comes to a bioweapons manufacturing mishap or intentional release of a BSL-4 bioweaponized nCorona virus which is new to existence and was formed via synthetic genotype in a laboratory.

    Dr. P. C. Roberts gave us Trickledown Economics back during the Reagan administration and now he wants to talk us all into his kind of Trickledown Epidemiology whereby herd immunity is achieved by allowing populations to comingle to the extent that all Tertiary level medical care and front line workers are placed at risk for the fatal pathogen nCorona COVID-19.

    Not only does Dr. Roberts want to bankrupt you with Trickledown Economics but he now advocates for Trickledown Pathogenicity & unimagined Mortality Rate increases & incidence of death.

    Way to go, Neoconfidence Man, Roberts.

    RW

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
    , @Mefobills
  14. Seems to me a top Corona outcome may be loss of the dollar’s reserve status. If the ((government)) issues multi-trillion dollar bailouts every couple if months, won’t the dollar become worthless? Dollars flood the world, backed only by a virtually bankrupt state. Can imagine the leading powers meeting to settle on a more solid currency. Infinite supply means zero worth?

  15. Wild Bill says:

    I personally never liked Ronald Reagan, but he did have his moments and PCR will be familiar with his most famous line “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”
    While it sort of looks like PCR “has done gone commie on us” Reagan’s line applies to every government that has ever existed anywhere. Government is always an assemblage of purchased criminals trying to exploit people in a weaker position. The challenge for us as ordinary people is to somehow survive without being drawn into the filth of it or crushed by its plethora of minions.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  16. 76239 says:

    “Elites are working to make it better for them, and worse for the rest of us”

    And if the government takes over all of the medical system , some how it will get better? Who takes public transportation? Who lives in public housing? Or sends their children to public schools? Its not the leadership; it is the suckers.

    Government is the problem, therefore government is the solution. Makes no sense.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  17. This doesn’t strike me as a failure of leadership: This strikes me as “leadership” succeeding beyond their wildest dreams. This is making lemonade from lemons on a grand scale.

    • Agree: Marshall Lentini
    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  18. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:

    The absence of unity at home will make us a sitting duck for enemies abroad.

    We can’t, and shouldn’t, unite under the current parasitic and genocidal management. The enemy within wants us to “unite” with them against their enemies abroad but that’s an obvious trap and it won’t work. The real enemy is on this side of the gates.

    • Agree: brandybranch
  19. jonswift says:
    @onebornfree

    Methinks onebornfree does not know anything about healthcare costs.

    Health Expenditure of some selected countries (out of 44 countries) as a % of GDP 2018:

    U.S. 16.9
    Switzerland 12.2
    Germany 11.2
    France 11.2
    U. Kingdom 9.8
    Iceland 8.3 with 21 countries higher than 8.3 and 22 lower than 8.3
    Israel 7.5
    China 5.0
    Indonesia 3.1

    U.S. is highest and Indonesia is lowest.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Canuck
  20. Paul Craig Roberts has provided ‘food for thought’ in this article and I’ll comment on some of that. But first let me identify some of the more overly loose objections to his article in the comments above.

    76329 has offered that “government is the problem”. And asks “Who takes public transportation?” and who goes to public schools?

    Well, good political leadership is not a problem. The problem is that good leadership is too scarce a resource in many countries. I grant you that corrupt and idiotic leadership is a big and too common problem. Public transportation can be done well or abysmally. Public schools can vary from great to abysmal.

    Wild Bill goes wild with the same ‘all government is bad’ extreme. Tell that to countries with good government. Putin has led the restoration of Russia to much better shape from the extreme difficulties of a generation ago, for example.

    Robert White, who may very well be right that the corona virus is the offspring of mad science and the plaything of other madmen, accuses the author of heinous intent: bankrupting America and as far as I can make out, advocating something between mass murder and genocide. Paul Craig Roberts has recently used his website to provide a large repertoire of thoughtful advice and pertinent considerations to the corona virus issue, including ways to buttress one’s immune system. Hardly the behavior of a would-be genocidal maniac. And as far as I can make out, the United States is already de facto bankrupt.

    Onebornfree angrily offers without evidence that it is absolutely not true that “A profit-driven health care system is the highest cost system to have.”

    The United States is rather infamous for having the highest by far percentage of its GNP allotted to what is euphemistically called health care, as compared to other countries, and yet achieving some of the poorest results in many basic categories. So in addition to providing the highest profits, the Americans get mediocre results. When illness is profitable, and wellness is financial ruin, you’ve got a problem. Now that’s something to get upset about, Onebornfree.

    But back to Dr. Roberts’ article. One of the main points he makes is that the financial catastrophe that is being created should be dealt with via solidarity, fairly, as opposed to unfairly. In the large financial crisis of a dozen years ago, the extreme American government decision was to give trillions to dysfunctional large private banks while countless little people lost their homes and savings. Roberts is suggesting that this time around, let’s give radical financial and policy help and debt relief to the people: Reboot the system, but with radical debt relief, that is, without crushing general debt burdens. And fix some of the policy mistakes that made the economy into a wild west where greed and fraud and lack of sensible standards led to extremely concentrated wealth, a vast underclass, and a shrinking and demoralized middle class.

    His suggestion of temporary nationalization of some effectively bankrupt or failing but critically important enterprises is a tactic that doesn’t preclude further adjustments as things develop.

    There are obviously many other things that need fixing in America, that are not part of this article: But Roberts has had the courage to propose controversial and radical economic measures for an unprecedented circumstance. Also especially noteworthy is his warning reference to the ominous agenda of crazed “Bill Gates and Big Pharma, [who are] are determined to vaccinate us all, and to control our movements with an internal passport called “vaccinated, health cleared”.

    • Replies: @Robert White
    , @Kim
    , @FB
  21. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Wild Bill

    “Government is always an assemblage of purchased criminals trying to exploit people in a weaker position.”

    If I may concur:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt  criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.”   onebornfree

    “Government  is a disease masquerading as its own cure”  Robert LeFevere

    “Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class.”      Albert J. Nock

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Anonymous
  22. A visionary and challenging piece by Paul Craig Roberts. What will this new world be? Will it be a society that embodies the true “concept of community”?
    To know that we must first look to the past.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  23. @onebornfree

    “A profit-driven health care system is the highest cost system to have.”

    Total, 100%, commie horseshit.

    No regards, onebornfree

    Big Pharma fixing drug prices and making what economists term abnormal profits (highest margins of any industry) is hardly free market enterprise either.

    However, the dilemma with collectivist healthcare is tragedies of the commons that come with living in a diversity pig sty.

    Nigerian mother racks up £350,000 bill in NHS hospital after flying to Britain to give birth to twins
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4123156/Health-tourist-s-350-000-bill-paid-NHS-crisis-case-mother-flew-Nigeria-birth-two-twins.html

  24. @Robert Snefjella

    I’m a signatory of the Cambridge Working Group Gain-of-Function Call to Action headed up by Dr. Marc Lipsitch at Harvard in 2014. Compared to moi, our ‘esteemed’ Dr. Roberts does not know what his colleagues are doing in the deep state whereas I, for one, do.

    Madmen did not manufacture the deadly pathogen nCorona COVID-19. Formally trained scientists created it for profit.

    RW

  25. Fabulous article. I read it on PCR’s Institute for Political Economy site, same title, and came looking for it here. Fabulous! A devastating article on the totally corrupt American economy.

    A collapsing economy easily fixed, except that the super-rich oppose that, not good for their need to double their personal wealth.

    Craig points out a peculiar, uniquely American insanity, which I attribute equally to Joe McCarthy and Milton Friedman, resulting in a totally brainwashed population. He writes:

    In the US there is so much dogmatic prejudice against anything that has a tint of socialism, even a temporary expedient measure, that thought and sensible action face strong barriers.

    I would add to that two other killers. Corporate mergers is one. A corporation is not a person, so should not be allowed to personally own stocks in itself and others.

    And advertising in the news media and the antisocial “social media”. We would not have the media stirring up war in Syria and Iran if such tragic dramas did not boost their sales and so hugely increase their advertising revenues.

    So ban such advertising.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @DaveE
  26. @Robert White

    “Madmen did not manufacture the deadly pathogen nCorona COVID-19. Formally trained scientists created it for profit.”

    The distinction escapes me.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  27. Kim says:
    @kb2

    “Civilizations fail when their elites change from an admired dynamic creative class to a despised Establishment of corrupt rentiers, an entrenched governing class unfit to govern.” Toynbee.

    Civilizations fail when:

    1. They overshoot their carrying capacity. The entire world is currently in this condition – energetically and in other ways as well – so this implies global civilizational failure.

    2. They are brought down by the process that ecology calls “succession”. In this process, the success of a species makes it dominant in the habitat. Ironically, however, this success changes the habitat such that competitor species then begin to thrive and as a result challenge the heretofore dominant species by competing with it for resources or by damaging/destroying/changing its habitat.

    As a local example, the USA has become rich enough that many feel it can afford to be endlessly magnanimous and provisioning of those who are not suitable for the US habitat. These unsuitable types thrive with this provisioning and as a result change the habitat of the US such that it favors themselves over the heretofore dominant US species.

    From the point of view of the dominant species, the result is collapse.

    A good book that addresses these issues is “Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change” by William R. Catton.

    • Thanks: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Thomasina
  28. Kim says:

    Craig points out a peculiar, uniquely American insanity, which I attribute equally to Joe McCarthy and Milton Friedman, resulting in a totally brainwashed population. He writes:

    Bizarre comment.

    Senator McCarthy was not under any kind of allusion or misapprehension when he recognized – and alerted the American people to the fact – that the DOJ, State Department, Department of Agriculture, the White House and numerous other government departments were wormholed with spies and dedicated agents of the Communist Party and that they had, at the very least, given their allegiance to the Soviet Union while occupying official positions in defiance of their Oath of Allegiance to The Constitution or, much worse, were actively engaged in subversion, sabotage, spying and treason against the people and government of the United States.

    All of this was clearly proven at the time, and even more, has been irrefutably been shown to be true by analysis of the Venona decrypts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project

    “During the 37-year duration of the Venona project, the Signal Intelligence Service decrypted and translated approximately 3,000 messages.[3] The signals intelligence yield included discovery of the Cambridge Five espionage ring in the United Kingdom[4] and Soviet espionage of the Manhattan Project in the U.S.[5] (known as project Enormous / операция «Энормоз»). The espionage was undertaken to support the Soviet atomic bomb project. The Venona project remained secret for more than 15 years after it concluded. Some of the decoded Soviet messages were not declassified and published by the United States until 1995.”

    In what kind of sanatorium have you been residing these last 70 years not to know this? There is a voluminous literature on this matter. At the very least, to clear up your misunderstandings on this matter, you should read

    Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America’s Enemies by M. Stanton Evans.

    This well-written, carefully argued, and thouroughly documentally-supported book is the last word on this ridiculously misreported matter.

    • Agree: Miro23, Mefobills
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  29. Kim says:
    @Robert Snefjella

    Onebornfree angrily offers without evidence that it is absolutely not true that “A profit-driven health care system is the highest cost system to have.”

    The first observation to be made about the “health care” systems that are always proposed and that we always end up getting are that they are not, in fact, “health care” systems because they couldn’t care less about “health”. Rather, government “health care” systems are just ways to use tax dollars to underwrite the business models of Big Ag, Big Pharma, Big Chem and Big Medicine.

    The process works like this:

    1) Big Ag and Big Chem produce cheap grains and put them in boxes with masses of sugar or corn syrup fructose and grain-based oils and sell the resultant swill at 500% markups.

    2) The sheep-people eat this “food” and as a result develop diabetes, heart disease, and cancer, become obese and prone to strokes and numerous inflammatory diseases and all kinds of aggravating conditions and diseases of the intestinal system.

    3) Big Pharma and Big Med then treat and manage these conditions (never, ever curing them), so that from an early age the sickness of citizens becomes a reliable profit center and the wealth of the human being trapped in this system is constantly drained off by these pitiless con men.

    4) The cost of this “treatment” is difficult for individuals and families to meet, so the government must be brought in to force us all to pick up the ever-inflating tab. They then call this crue and extortionate subsidy “Medicare”, and so on and tell us that we have the best health care in the world while we have 30% of the population obese while sta teh same time if you go into a hospital you will see a diagram promoting the very thing that is most destroying the nation’s health, the high-carb, low-fat Food Pyramid!

    Note that there is absolutely nothing about either “health” or “care” involved in this process at all.

    So please now tell me all about your wonderful ideas for health care for all.

  30. @Robert White

    Dr. P. C. Roberts gave us Trickledown Economics back during the Reagan administration and now he wants to talk us all into his kind of Trickledown Epidemiology….

    Dr. Roberts is from George H. W. Bush inner circles, which ain’t bad. Deep, deep State! Iran has just asked a loan from IMF. Hopefully, this will lead to dismantling of the IMF and then World Bank.

    Thanks to Obama for giving Crimea to Putin on the silver platter, and inviting Russia back in the Middle East, especially Syria.

    Israel is in lots of trouble. Three elections and still no stable government, only caretaker government. Most probably they will head for the fourth election, chances are in the meantime, Israel will disintegrate. The dimwits Netanyahu is full of hot air, due to 29 standing ovations. The President was black but the US Congress always has respected the Office of the Presidency.

    Israel is completely surrounded by Muslims. The Muslims never been so united. On the Mediterranean Sea, Russia is there. On the Red Sea, Iran controls the Bab al-Mandib. Also, Iran controls the Straight of Hormuz.

    Bright times are ahead, especially for the meek and down trodden of the world!

  31. Alfred says:
    @kb2

    Toynbee

    Thank you for mentioning the unmentionable historian. I mean, we are all multicultural now.

    I read the complete set (12 volumes) of “A Study of History”. I was without a job in Paris at that time. I found them at the library of the British Council. I was going there for French classes. An amazing source of useless information. 🙂

  32. Any debt “jubilee” should only be extended to those who majored in something useful to society. The various “studies” majors can go eff themselves.

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  33. @anon

    A lot of talk with no proof. On January 5, 2020 the Chinese Academy sent the genome sequence to the US NCBI, which is part of the NIH:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947.1

    The NCBI published the genome sequence and the entire world had access to check it out which many labs have. To this date, no lab in the world has concluded this virus was man made.

    ON March 7, 2020, 28 scientists published this article in the Lancet and linked to th conclusions of a number of other scientists:

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext

    The rapid, open, and transparent sharing of data on this outbreak is now being threatened by rumours and misinformation around its origins. We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin. Scientists from multiple countries have published and analysed genomes of the causative agent, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), and they overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife.

  34. @swamped

    “If there’s actually no real unity withIN our own ‘victim’ or ‘identity’ group then there was never any reason to believe there ever could be any unity beyond that. That’s why socialism doesn’t work. The elites aren’t really “in the way” of anyone else’s unity; they just have a better sense of their own interests & unity, which keeps them on top.”
    Why start from the false premise of “identity” or “victim” group ? And draw the false conclusion that there’s never been a reason to believe there could be unity ?
    The fact that the US has experienced a greater sense of unity in the past puts paid to this.
    Then you say elites have never been in the way of unity. This too is false. Elites, esp’ over last 30 years have ALWAYS practiced divide & rule.

    • Agree: James Stark
    • Replies: @Theophrastus
  35. “Protection of front-line workers exposed to the virus, and of ‘other vulnerable communities, including the homeless, migrants, and refugees from discrimination and attack in this time of crisis’; democratization of the means of production, by converting corporations into cooperatives; universal healthcare and basic services (education, childcare, elderly care, water, electricity, internet, etc.); a universal basic income; democratized credit (“Bail out the people, not the corporations and Wall Street”); a ‘decarbonized’ economy and Green New Deal; housing as a human right; clean and decommodified water for all; a Debt Jubilee; release of prisoners and closure of jails and prisons; closure of detention centers and reunification of families; shutdown of overseas military bases and cuts in the military budget, with spending transferred to social needs and infrastructure.”

    In other words, heaven.

  36. @Robert White

    And all of the scientists in the world have concluded otherwise, many of whom have also sequenced the genome of Covid -19. Since you claim to be part of the Gain of Function group, we would love to hear and see proof of the claim other than statements of people supposedly in the know.

    Even China has not accused us. Russia has not accused us. We have enough enemies that somebody would have accused us of making a bioweapon. And China has enough enemies that somebody would have accused them.

    See my post 28 for proof of gene sequencing by January 5 and a host of scientists who claim otherwise.

    Show us the proof.

  37. @jonswift

    Dear old OBF would never let something as trivial as facts to interfere with his job of “the drover’s dog”.

  38. Beckow says:
    @obwandiyag

    …as Barbara Tuchman pointed out in relation to nobody learning the lessons of Crecy, the old ways persevere.

    They preserve until they don’t, as with all trends. We have been living in a libertarian world – all the other terms like ‘neo-liberal’, ‘globalist’, or even simply ‘liberal’ are just folklore and an attempt to obfuscate.

    A libertarian world doesn’t work. It fails on two basic tests:
    – it fails to sustain a society for more than 1-2 generations
    – it catastrophically fails when things don’t go well.

    That’s the lesson of history, but liberalism always comes back because it appeals to young minds wanting to live free and do what feels good. Too bad for the current devotees that they will have to eat their words as the liberal(tarian) ideology collapses.

    You are right, some will persevere. It is just so much fun to charge on horses, ride like maniacs, waiting to be slaughtered… But I have noticed that the smart ones are staying quiet.

  39. @onebornfree

    OBF, the question is never just: “oh, its a
    government, therefore its a criminal conspiracy etc.” This is often true. But a government is also an expression of varying & often conflicting social power relations. The US government is the expression of such power relations. However, given that the 0.01 % now have near complete power, the US government is an expression of that reality.

  40. GeeBee says:
    @Robert Snefjella

    Very droll (and most accurate). I laughed out loud for the first time in weeks.

  41. GeeBee says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    ‘So ban such advertising’

    This is one of those throwaway remarks that is never the less profound. It is a seemingly unthinkable policy, but one whose time must come. We are so inured to the malign influence of wall-to-wall advertising that we are like the proverbial goldfish, who can conceive of no world but the water in which it swims. We are surrounded by advertising everywhere and at all times, and yet we no longer even notice. We just ‘take it for granted’: it is, in short, normality in the modern world. But what is this world? And from whence has it come?

    Thereby hangs a tale indeed. I recall a totemic indicator of the answer to this in a rare moment when the BBC had its guard down (probably because the news item was part of their usual ‘bash-the-tories’ routine). In a vox-pop street interview, in the small Welsh town in which Michael Howard (who had just won the Conservative Party leadership campaign in 2003) had grown up, a local woman regaled the viewers with her recollection of the Howard family’s local draper’s shop. She said that she always avoided going near it as a young woman, because if you so much as hesitated by the shop, Michael Howard’s mother – the proprietoress – would always come rushing out onto the street and harangue you in an attempt to make you buy a dress or skirt. This, of course, was in sharp contradistinction to ‘normal’ (i.e. gentile) British practice.

    It’s the Jewish way. Huckstering, haranguing, harassing until you give in and buy. It is largely owing to this cultural feature of theirs that we endure advertising in all its garish ubiquity. Advertising is merely this same one-on-one sales policy noted by the BBC’s vox-pop lady carried to the highest degree. It is a form of huckstering and it is both ugly and unnecessary. Let us, as you say, do away with it for once and for all!

    • Agree: Lurker
    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
  42. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    “Anarchy may not be very good, but it’s better than no government at all.”

    “No government at all” means a society of robber bands (united in self defense) and eventual conquest by an outside group. Hobbes _Leviathan_, later refined by Locke into a “commonwealth”.

    What we have _today_ is no government at all. The pretend government has deteriorated into a collection of robber bands of various sorts. They range from rent-seeking corporations allied with governmental sub-coalitions through rogue governmental agencies to literal robber bands operating in concert with the police/politicians (try living in a city and you will see it first hand).

    To say that “government” is synonymous with “thief” (as Roberts does) is to de facto abandon any ability to criticize government. That, in turn, means no protection from physical threats mounted by other humans. Very bad move.

    Note that leftists always say “government is theft”, and are always thieves themselves when they take over. They’ve used the same argument to criticize their predecessor and to protect themselves, for if all governments are thieves, why criticize any particular government for being thieves? You don’t want Snowball back, do you, Comrads?

  43. Thomasina says:
    @Kim

    Kim – thank you for the book suggestion. I’m going to give it a go. Just hope it’s not over my head.

    • Replies: @Kim
  44. PCR carries on like a revivalist preacher with assertion after assertion that his readers are expected to accept on faith without well sourced facts or cogent reasoning. We are told that so much that is wrong – and one can’t disagree that much is wrong for many, even most, Americans – and it is attributed to elites. Who are these elites? Can PCR give authentic quotes in support? Indeed, in what decade of the 20th century did PCR last have a conversation with even one member of the elites?

    In the way of old time preachers he uses a broad brush. Yes, many, maybe most Americans have gained little if anything from globalisation because it has been good for the cheap labor that does the outsourced work or comes to America to work for lower pay than Americans would receive but for the competition. However PCR seems to be as stuck as any ignorant American with a view of America as the paradigm. By contrast Australia has undeniably done very well for nearly all Australians out of 30+ years of globalisation. Part luck, part Australian traditions of high minimum wages and reasonably priced health care etc. But PCR’s rant can be truly regarded as parochial when one considers – reluctantly – that hundreds of millions of Chinese have benefited from globalisation and not a few Indians, Philipinos and Malaysians, inter alios, at call centres.

    • Replies: @Bradley
  45. Miro23 says:

    The failure of leadership resides in the long-term failure of leadership that made Western societies vulnerable by moving high-productivity, high-valued jobs offshore in order to raise corporate profits at the expense of domestic consumer incomes.

    PCR is covering a lot of ground here, but the off shoring and deindustrialization of the US was uniquely harmful.

    The timeline of Detroit could be a parable for the US. In 1950 Detroit was at the heart of world manufacturing, while today it is a sad wasteland inhabited by dysfunctional Africans.
    It didn’t have to be this way. Germany also had a successful auto industry at the start of the 20th century and they still retain it. Japan combines an advanced economy with a successful auto industry.

    The US has always had a problem with special interests and corrupt government, but at least in the past – for example, the Gilded Age (1870 – 1900), the Robber Barons kept the industrial development, jobs and wealth in the US ( that’s not to say they wouldn’t have outsourced to China if they’d been able to).

    • Replies: @S
  46. This rat is leaving the sinking ship ASAP. Timeline is 3 years. I suspect “new” USA will be some combination of Jim Jones, Scientology, I dunno a smidgeon of Pol Pot? I hope to watch from far away.

    • Replies: @Kim
    , @Mustapha Mond
    , @Wally
  47. So it appears that capitalism at its last stage is plain Ponzi scheme.
    It was all predicted more than 100 years ago by V.I. Lenin in Imperialism as capitalism last stage.
    Quite obviously the only way to get out of this mess is socialism. Measures described by the author are one of those that are part of socialism package. And for those who thought that welfare is socialism. In true socialism everybody contributes by working. The one who does not work does not eat. There was no welfare in the Soviet union or Eastern European socialist countries which is where socialism was.
    However, right to education, healthcare, shelter and work is also part of socialism.

  48. Kim says:
    @Thomasina

    Kim – thank you for the book suggestion. I’m going to give it a go. Just hope it’s not over my head.

    No one should worry about that because it is really very readable.

  49. Kim says:
    @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    This rat is leaving the sinking ship ASAP. Timeline is 3 years. I suspect “new” USA will be some combination of Jim Jones, Scientology, I dunno a smidgeon of Pol Pot? I hope to watch from far away.

    I wish I could watch from the moon. What is going to play out on earth – especially in the USA, which has so very far to fall and is so disconnected from reality – over the next 30 years is going to be like watching that movie, World War Z.

    No one wants to accept it, but the.exponential.growth.game.is.over.

    • Replies: @S
    , @James Scott
  50. Miro23 says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    And for those who thought that welfare is socialism. In true socialism everybody contributes by working.

    And the real trick is to make that work maximally effective by avoiding the problem of extremes. Extreme socialism as in communist central planning and extreme capitalism as in a corporate special-interest dictatorship.

    The best way to start on that road would be a giant wall separating the state and corporations/special interests.

    Key features:

    – Politicians entirely funded by a government grant and by individual voters with a lowish maximum limit.

    – Politicians with votes above a certain threshold get free MSM airtime without MSM censorship and interviews carefully structured for neutrality. Also administrative and research staff at government cost.

    – Politicians have a lifetime ban on either coming from or later joining the commercial sector (no revolving door). Also strongly advised social separation from commercial groups.

    – Elected politicians and top government administrators receiving relatively high salaries directly from the government.

    – Severe penalties for corruption. Prison sentence.

    – Complete shutdown of political lobbying. Illegal.

    – Government employees follow a separate lifetime career path with no corporate links and also severe penalties for corruption.

    The effect would be to make politics once more responsive to the needs of the general public ( more Democratic) and get democracy back to working the way it was intended.

    • Agree: Agent76
  51. There are an awful lot of straw men in these arguments. I wonder if the author thinks so many groups “hate” him because subconsciously he feels he has earned their hatred. Singling out extremists as representative of entire movements is no more than rationalization.

    Libertarians remind me of angry children screaming, you’re not my daddy, you can’t tell me what to do!

    Of course the government favors the aristocracy – who do you suppose set it up back in 1789, working people? The average American suffered little inconvenience under British rule; they were in fact among the freest people on earth. In an age of absolute tyrants their sovereign was a constitutional monarch whose powers were held in check by an elected Parliament, and their civil rights were protected by the English Bill of Rights of 1689 – the one the first ten amendments would be based on. But the new American aristocracy would never be accepted as equals by their British counterparts, because they had earned rather than inherited their wealth, and so they agitated for a new country of their own, whose vast human and natural resources they could claim for themselves.

    Out of three million people living in the new land of the free only 38,818 were allowed to cast votes in the first presidential election of 1788-89. What else do you need to know?

  52. S says:
    @Kim

    I wish I could watch from the moon. What is going to play out on earth – especially in the USA, which has so very far to fall and is so disconnected from reality – over the next 30 years is going to be like watching that movie, World War Z.

    Yes, I suspect something like a Red October 2.0 followed by a vicious Russian style ‘civil war’, may well be in the offing. Possibly too, add in to the mix, a world war (WWIII) which the US may well be taking part in, mirroring Russia’s disintegrating and very unstable situation in late 1917, when it too was involved in a world war and doing poorly.

    The history books will call the economic and political collapse of the United States the ‘Fall of Capitalism’, paralleling in many ways the Fall of Communism of thirty years ago.

    This will all have been a very much planned top down affair, and not at all organic and bottom up.

  53. KenH says:

    The greatest challenge we face is to restore the concept of community. There was a time when the United States was a community, a unique one as it consisted of a multitude of ethnicities. As each wave of ethnic immigrants arrived

    And PCR should explain how America can become a community when 40% of the population is non-white and 80% of the immigrants today come from third world and/or non-white nations? Moreover, most of these non-whites are naturally antipathetic towards whites and this is before factoring in the demonic anti-white hatred they’re exposed to by the Jewish owned media and school system.

    Racially and culturally disparate peoples don’t make for strong communities and writing down the debt won’t change this fundamental truism of human nature.

    The reason pre-1965 America could assimilate and absorb immigrants was because about 90% came from Europe, Canada and Austrialis and were white, Christian and culturally very similar to or the same as American citizens.

    America will eventually breakup along racial lines because nature wills it. It’s only a matter of when.

  54. anon[308] • Disclaimer says:

    davidgmillsatty 33, thanks for the hand-waving denial of evidence and that quaint old propaganda chestnut, Lancet’s panicked argumentum ad verecundiam. How very persuasive, that scientists “overwhelmingly” conclude some bullshit. Because we trust US science whores so much. They live and die by DoD grants, yet they manage to maintain their absolute integrity, except for a pervasive little replicability crisis and ineradicable commercial conflicts of interest. And we trust NATO science whores so much too. The authorities you pledge allegiance to are crap.

    You military ASVAB waivers got to give it up. We’re well into the second decade of a Thirty Years War.

    https://blogs.360.cn/post/APT-C-39_CIA_EN.html

    It’s a sneaky, weaselly harassment campaign of an illegitimate weakling regime against an enemy with overwhelming advantages in human capital, industrial base, and international standing. The SCO pole is fed up, and your shit little rogue state is gonna lose. Better do a Moltke and treat with the enemy to save your hide. Oh wait, that’s way above your pay grade as a Chairborne Ranger making like $20K a year.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  55. @Sergey Krieger

    Capitalism: If people work hard they can play hard.
    Socialism: The same people.

  56. Agent76 says:

    Apr 10, 2020 The REAL WAR Has ALWAYS Been The Bankers VS. Humanity — John Titus

    John Titus joins me to discuss the FED, and to help us understand that the REAL WAR has always been between the Bankers and humanity.

    • Replies: @DaveE
    , @Minnesota Mary
  57. Wally says:
    @obwandiyag

    So then, why are you still here and not in your beloved Africa?

  58. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:

    You want socialized medicine? Go visit a clinic where it’s free like Australia, if you dare, walking across filthy floors where your shoes stick to the body fluids that haven’t been cleaned in weeks if ever, after waiting forever in a waiting room of filthy plastic chairs and coughing sick people to be seen by an Indian doctor whose seat in a medical school as well as grades are commodities in India and may have been purchased by his or her wealthy family, whose education was half learning English and prepping for the physician’s licensing laws they’re allowed to take in all fifty states. It’s not that some Indian doctors aren’t competent when they come here as many probably are, but that the chances of finding one in public rather than private practice are…what? Maybe someone can enlighten us.

  59. FLgeezer says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    >Even China has not accused us. Russia has not accused us.

    And no one even thinks to mention Israel.

    • Agree: davidgmillsatty
  60. vot tak says:

    “Instead of community, the US is a place where hatreds are cultivated with those claiming the status of victims doing the most hating and those assigned the status of victimizer being most hated.”

    In the usa everyone is supposed to be a victim and everyone is supposed to hate the other victim groups, who are their supposed oppressors. That way those without power remain without power and those with power remain comfy and fat.

    • Agree: davidgmillsatty
  61. Where are Ferdinand Pecora (Wall street investigations) and Isaac Charles Parker (the Hanging judge) when we need them the most?

  62. There was a time when the United States was a community, a unique one as it consisted of a multitude of ethnicities. As each wave of ethnic immigrants arrived, they passed a test on the Constitution, learned the national language, and became assimilated into the American community.

    Passing a civics test and learning a new language does not form a community. It never has, and it never will. For most of our history, Americans understood this. John Jay wrote in 1787 that America was, “one united people, a people descended from the same ancestors” (Federalist No. 2), and his statement attracted no disagreement because the ethnic identity of America was implicitly understood by its founders.

    In 1790, Congress passed America’s first naturalization law which limited benefits to “free white citizens”. Black Americans were granted citizenship in 1870 after the incredibly bloody and destructive Civil War. By most standards, they have never been assimilated. In the 19th century, Asian immigration was prohibited. In 1921 and 1924, America introduced a quota system that reserved most immigration for Western Europeans. The 1924 legislation stated, “no aliens ineligible to citizenship shall be admitted to the United States”, effectively limiting citizenship to white and black Americans.

    So, no: there has never been a time when civic nationalism was able to form a community worth speaking of. Each ethnic group has retained its ethnic pride and loyalty, as is natural among blood relatives. The bonds of family, kin, and race are stronger than State-mandated law and language. Why should it be otherwise? Civic nationalism is based on the imperialist ideology of the melting pot which demands the sacrificial immolation of loyalty to kinship on the altar of the State. That is the Tower of Babel.

  63. It’s not the fall of capitalism….it’s the jews wrecking the economies of the west to gain more centralized control.

    Capitalism….communism……jews don’t care so long as they get to tell everybody else what to do.

    • Agree: DaveE
  64. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @76239

    Government is the problem, therefore government is the solution. Makes no sense.

    There was a man in our town
    and he was wondrous wise.
    He jumped into a bramble bush
    and scratched out both his eyes.

    And when he saw what he had done
    with all his might and main
    he jumped back in the bramble bush
    and scratched them in again.

    Also:
    Stupidity got us into this mess, and stupidity will get us out!

  65. I hold with Allen Bloom’s brief, the West has lost its soul, its identity. That this occurred when it stopped transmitting the cultural heritage. Begun innocently enough by Galileo, carried on with a will by Voltaire, and brought to completion with postmodern multiculturalism.

    Without a soul a culture can’t continue to mature, the life force stalls, sickens and dies. Hedges following Durkheim, sees the spiritual paralysis, “malaise”, set in a century ago; and, now we are well into the morbid phase.

    Hope in the state is shere folly. The barbarians have taken power. And with a force so formidable there’s little chance the Russians will save us again. We are staring into the abyss.

  66. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    As somebody who has worked in the most functional part of the Federal bureaucracy, I can tell you for a fact that Socialism is rule of those who (a) are too dumb to get any other job and (b) too well connected / educated to be let run free. Fauci is a good example — look at his letter to the AAAS ( https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/i-m-going-keep-pushing-anthony-fauci-tries-make-white-house-listen-facts-pandemic ). You do not want that.

    Socialism would be like going back to elementary school as an adult and having the exact same PC teacher try to browbeat you.

    As for those groups that can’t fit into an industrial society — remember that the largely Jewish Bolsheviks thought they would control the USSR after the October Revolution. Didn’t work — they got Stalin, a Russian Nationalist, who purged the lot of them. Putting the incompetent in charge doesn’t make you able to do productive work in an industrial society. What it will do is start an open war between ethnic groups.

  67. @davidgmillsatty

    I’m a private researcher and have no obligation whatsoever to share my proprietary data sources, or research conclusions as nobody pays me to conduct research.

    My university professors trained me to get paid for research as opposed to giving it away for free.
    Moreover, in a short time frame it will be known that the USA is responsible for the bioweaponization of nCorona nCov-19.

    When it comes to USA bioweapons manufacture the USA has nowhere to hide.

    Not even the spooks can save the USA now.

    RW

  68. @GeeBee

    Or, as the late, great American comedian and social commentator, Bill Hicks would say to anyone in the audience (or elsewhere) working in advertising/marketing:

    “Kill yourself.”

    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbAAVLcMzr4 )

    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  69. S says:
    @Miro23

    ..at least in the past – for example, the Gilded Age (1870 – 1900), the Robber Barons kept the industrial development, jobs and wealth in the US ( that’s not to say they wouldn’t have outsourced to China if they’d been able to).

    Good point, and they did indeed attempt to.

    Race was the big sticking point they ran into when their attempts to import an intended tens of millions of Chinese wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap labor) from newly ‘opened up’ China into the United States and Australia ultimately fell through, but not for lack of trying.

    [MORE]

    Too many of the still largely Anglo-Saxon population (amongst others, such as the Irishman in the cartoon below, ironically himself likely a wage slave as a so called cheap labor ‘immigrant’) didn’t take kindly to being bred out of existance (ie genocided) because some powerful people and hangers on didn’t want to pay the prevailing real time local costs of labor to typically their own people.

    The horrible template for this depraved mentality can be found in 1619 Jamestown when the first African chattel slaves were purchased from that Dutch flagged ship. Truly it is said that slavery is a scourge upon mankind.

    Plans were being made as early as 1850 to outsource US manufacturing to famine stricken Ireland, such as described in the Spectator of London article below. [If you can’t get enough of the slaves to come directly to you, you go directly to where the slaves are.]

    The complete commodification of everything, factories, people, and the Earth itself.

    In theory the Communist portion of the manufactured and broadly controlled Capitalist/Communist Hegelian dialectic should work towards fixing that, but imperfect people, who have violated all sorts of basic, but very important social norms, seeking empire and total world power, in addition to being historically addicted to slavery [chattel and wage (ie so called ‘cheap labor’)], can’t play both sides of what is ultimately a rigged game, and expect anything but a corrupt result.

    The New Rome (1853) – pg 98

    ’…the day will not be far distant when America will num-
    ber more Chinese than Caucasians.’

    ‘From these relations we may calculate upon an emigration of American business
    men to China, in return for that of Chinese laborers to California.’

    Pall Mall Gazette of London (1874) – Chinamen Out of China

    “A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.”

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853#c90697

    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/towards-expat-nationalism/#comment-3752110

    http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/22nd-june-1850/15/american-factories-in-ireland

    • Thanks: Miro23
  70. Emslander says:

    The inability of the high-cost American private health care system to cope with the present medical crisis is apparent. A profit-driven health care system is the highest cost system to have.

    Profit is built in at every level, which raises costs to levels that private insurance and Medicare refuse to reimburse. The result is shrinkage, not expansion of the system. Just look, for example, at the number of hospitals, especially in rural areas, that have recently closed.

    That’s where you are wrong and woefully wrong. For one, your statement is internally contradictory. Government payments for care turn the system into a socialized system. The problem is that it’s socialist for the providers, because their costs and massive profits are covered by taxpayers, while the customers, the patients, are the capitalists. They pay through their taxes and co-pays.

    The possibility for profit doesn’t increase the price of a product. It lowers price by forcing competitors to innovate and economize in order to win market share. This is always true if the market isn’t corrupted by government involvement.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  71. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    And where, exactly, do you believe you can run to on this planet and avoid the vilely obnoxious and depressingly omnipresent sub-species, ‘homo sapiens assholio’?

    As a dual New Zealand/US citizen, I am most interested in precisely where you might have in mind as a paradisiacal safe-haven.

    (Hint: you can rule out NZ or AU right now, I can wholeheartedly assure you……. )

  72. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    we cannot be vaccinated against Covid-19 and other mutating viruses, but the experts are already being shouted down

    The virus has already come and is now going as all other flu variations have done. The mentioned preexisting remedies seem to work well enough. They’re coming up with some multi-billion dollar bonanza vaccination which will be useless since it’ll be for what’s already passing. Next year there’ll be another flu mutation, corona or not, against which the stockpiled vaccines will be useless. But never mind, there’s a huge amount of money to be made with this hysteria as a cover.
    It’ll be hard for the mass of people to understand what’s good for them as all media are controlled and groups of people are told to move along by the police, all in the name of protecting them. Were things to get pushy then remember the elites control the money supply and armed people in uniform who will follow orders to keep the population down will be certain to keep getting paid.

  73. Truth3 says:

    The Jooz that run the world have an axiom…

    NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE

  74. @Assad al-islam

    I’m a Grumpy Marxist pinko Commie bastard opposed to false so-called ‘Capitalism’ & religious fundamentalism as espoused by Jesus Christ & King James Bible, & Islam’s Koran & so-called prophet Mohammad.

    Iran is just as nuts as America is.

    When I meet God I will punch him in the nose & hoof him in the shins before he can say Hallelujah.

    And I’m an Anglican so might righteousness is assured.

    RW

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Assad al-islam
  75. @Robert White

    do you prove that Bill Gates had anything to do with it too?

    dont hold that back!! let it go now!

    • Replies: @cylindrical crown
  76. Mefobills says:
    @onebornfree

    A profit-driven health care system is the highest cost system to have.”

    Total, 100%, commie horseshit.

    Medical is a mixed market, therefore it requires mixed market solutions. Of course Lolbertarians wrongly think that all markets are fully elastic (with price competition).

    A mixed market solution using Douglas Style (debt free) credit is outlined below. The American Social Creditor movement is not to be confused with Chinese social credit:

    I’m surprised PCR given his advanced economic thinking is pro socialized medicine. Again, medical is a mixed market and best solution is one that matches market type. Mismatches create problems.

    1) Create Douglas Health Credit Cards
    2) Fill said Cards with debt free money
    3) Health Credit is given to each child born
    4) The Card stays with the new citizen for life, and out of it they can pay for medical bills. The objective is to inject debt free money into the population to pay for the gap. (Social Creditors will know what Gap theory is).
    5) The card also pays for a third party bonded agent. The bonded agent works for you – he/she is a private citizen who is your go to person for medical advice, and he/she makes sure you are not being screwed over with your money. He/She also makes sure you are not screwing over the system yourself. The third person also argues the case for you when you stop paying money out of your account, and gap insurance kicks in.
    6) Card also pays for end of life insurance, and gap insurance. Gap insurance is if you get into some sort of extreme medical situation hence you cannot go bankrupt.
    7) All medical providers have to list their pricing structure – that way you can shop for lowest prices/best services which brings in benefits of competition. Germany is an example of medical pricing being available for comparison shopping.

    To issue Douglas Medical Cards, it would be done through a “postal banking system.” This would revitalize post office into a public bank, and would also be a single point of contact.

    The argument is not private health care vs socialized health care. That is a dialectic. Always beware of dialectics.

  77. @Kim

    And the US didn’t have spies in other countries. And didn’t interfere in their elections. And didn’t employ saboteurs to destroy their infrastructure. And didn’t bomb them to the Stone Age on the slightest pretext.

    McCarthy skipped that part.

    • Replies: @Bill Meyer
  78. Mr Roberts I have been a fan of your writing for a long time but your latest stuff sucks. Covid 19 is the flu. It is being touted as something else to cover for the Federal Reserve Notes imminent loss of World Reserve Currency status. The mob controlling it wants to stay in charge after the crash and wants to blame China and nature so they can. This is by far the most logical explanation for turning the seasonal flu into a fake pandemic.

    “We know what the Dystopian Wish List is. Can we come together with an anti-dystopian wish list as a mutually supportive community or have the elites succeeded in atomizing us into disparate tribal hate groups”?

    This is anti white claptrap. White people have been following this advice for decades and this is what got us here. The non whites will never stop hating us ever. Non whites are a weapon in the hands of the jew banker media mob. We have to call it a jew mob or they will just keep playing musical jew replacing one defamed jew with another every time we root out an individual jew. They have been playing musical jew for decades with all our important institutions. You do not leave weapons in your enemies hands. The non whites will never join whites in fixing the USA because the only way to fix it involves fixing the jew problem. Non whites know they are also a problem so they will defend the jews no matter what. I have a Mestizo friend who is 100% American speaks only English and he will defend the jew mob to the end because he is afraid if we fix the jew problem we will then fix the Mestizo problem. He is probably right. He is also proof that even the best non whites will side against whites in the end no matter what.

    No Mr Roberts the only way to save the USA is for white people to do the opposite of what you council and start playing identity politics to the nth degree. Again whites have been following your advise for decades and this is where it led.

    White people built the USA for white people and it says it in the preamble to the US Constitution. For ourselves and our posterity. Non whites are not the founders of the United States posterity by any definition of the word. White people have every right to decide allowing non whites was a mistake and deport them all.

    Name the jew banker media mob as the problem or the USA is going 3rd world. This is a fact.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  79. Wally says:
    @mark green

    said:
    “What about ‘Jewish studies’, Mr. Roberts, and the Jewish-dominated study of ‘anti-Semitism’?”

    Mark, you ignored what Roberts does and you do not. So “what about” these?
    – Roberts crushes the fake “holocaust” narrative with specifics, you dance around it.
    – Roberts exposes the grip that The Usual Enemies of Free Speech have on ‘academia.

    recommended:
    Paul Craig Roberts all over the ridiculous ‘holocaust’ scam:
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/05/paul-craig-roberts/morality-truth-facts/
    Why White Gentiles Can’t Get Admission to Ivy League Universities: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/11/paul-craig-roberts/why-white-gentiles-cant-get-admission-to-ivy-league-universities/
    also:
    Germany Did Not Start World War II: https://www.unz.com/proberts/germany-did-not-start-world-war-ii/
    The Lies About World War II, Paul Craig Roberts : https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-lies-about-world-war-ii/

    • Agree: Mefobills
    • Thanks: mark green
  80. @Robert White

    I seriously doubt it. People are not stupid. They want proof.

    They really don’t want a lecture from someone who claims to know and is not willing to even hint at how he knows. And then throws in financial incentive as a reason not to divulge what he knows.

    Only use of the scientific method is going to convince me and others skeptical of your claims.

    And here is the scientific model that I would find convincing.

    Some government lab created this virus early on. Pick a year, say 2014. Lets call that virus Covid 2014. Now if somebody gets a copy of Covid 2014 and proves that it is genomically identical to Covid 2019, well, ding, ding you have convinced me with the scientific method that is possibly, maybe even probably the case. Then if subsequent repeat studies prove geonomic identity, I am convinced.

    Short of that, claims are just end-arounds of the scientific method.

    • Replies: @Robert White
  81. Wally says:
    @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    It’s my bet that you’re going nowhere and just pretending like Barbra Streisand, Cher, Al Sharpton, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, etc. that you’ll leave the US.

    Where would you even go? The People’s Paradise of Venezuela?

    recommended:
    These 23 Celebrities Said They’ll Leave The Country: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/catherinedunn/2016/09/08/these-10-celebrities-say-theyll-leave-the-country-if-trump-is-elected-n2215391

  82. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert White

    You might enjoy cutting the heads off paper dolls if your nurse can find you some safety scissors.

  83. Mefobills says:
    @Robert White

    Robert White, your character assassination of PCR is going nowhere, because it is laced with falsehoods.

    PCR has written that virus and pathogen’s can be weaponized. Since you do not read the totality of his arguments, you are in a position of ignorance.

    With regards to Macroeconomics related health care, this article is not about that, but instead about where we are going “what new world will be” as a result of the current situation brought on by the virus, whether it is weaponized or not.

    His reasoning to ameliorate the business cycle is not illogical. There is no business cycle when labor is taken out of the equation. Labor makes goods as prices – goods fetch money – money is thrown backwards into the production system toward labor. That is the business cycle.

    Dr. Roberts did not give us Trickle Down during the Reagan Administration. He was a supply sider because in THOSE DAY, the U.S. economy was having a supply side problem. That means that goods were not being produced. Why? Because of the tax structure that was incentivizing people to go play golf rather than working to make things. The tax structure was taxing productivity, and that is always bad.

    Roberts has always been for taxes landing on speculation and “free ride” monopolies, especially land rents. I have read many of his works, and I know these things to be true, while you don’t – you are operating from a position of ignorance.

    And your biggest laugher, calling him a ne0-confidence man, when the facts are opposite. He is a vocal critic of neo-cons, and may have put his life in danger by specifically calling out the jew.

    • Replies: @Robert White
  84. Alfred says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    Even China has not accused us

    China does not want to be accused of starting a world war. I mean, WW1 was allegedly started over the assassination of one useless individual and his wife.

    • Replies: @Kim
  85. Mefobills says:
    @Emslander

    The possibility for profit doesn’t increase the price of a product. It lowers price by forcing competitors to innovate and economize in order to win market share. This is always true if the market isn’t corrupted by government involvement.

    Your above statement is hypnosis in action, and does not comport with facts.

    As Simon Patten said, “Government is the fourth factor of production.”

    https://michael-hudson.com/2011/10/simon-patten-on-public-infrastructure-and-economic-rent-capture/

    It does this by lowering prices IN ITS SECTOR.

    Government’s sector is INELASTIC markets, regulating mixed markets, and light regulation on elastic markets.

    When government is outside of its role, especially in elastic sectors, then prices go up. Only then does your argument have any merit.

    Also, only government can do long range planning for the commons. That is just how it is. You are operating under false implanted ideas. Our current ruling (((plutocracy))) is just fine with your brain function being where it is, blinded by false ideology.

  86. @James Scott

    Sadly, what you said about non-whites is true…..in the end they will always side with jews against whites.

    Many years ago I had a mexican-American friend. We were fairly close for a number of years. But whenever certain topics came up, politics, immigration, gangs, etc., there would be friction.

    Little by little he revealed a very strong hatred for white people. I think it was drilled into him by leftist professors, but in any case it got to be intolerable.

    One day he shared that, “White people are a cancer on the face of the earth.” My mouth dropped open and I was in shock. This was many years ago, before I became an immigration activist…..before I read “The Culture of Critique.” That comment finally destroyed the friendship, but he had been talking shit about white people for a long time. I cut him off completely. Years later I recall taking a peek at his FB (long ago, when I had FB) and he was blabbing about how he was a “far left marxist” and he “loved Obama,” blah, blah.

    Looking back on it I’m amazed that I was able to be friends with this person at all. But back then I really didn’t have much awareness of my white identity, and I was as brainwashed as anybody from my liberal college education.

    The lesson is, make no mistake, non-whites are NOT on our side.

  87. @Kim

    This is true and now we have to decide if we are going to let the mob that ran us over the edge blame it on the flu, keep everything for themselves, and stay in charge.

    Or if white Americans will start naming the jew mob for what it is and take back what is rightfully ours. I predict the latter sooner than later.

    This is how all the pogroms began.

  88. DaveE says:
    @Agent76

    The REAL WAR Has ALWAYS Been The Bankers VS. Humanity.

    Absolutely right. When Christ cleared the temple of the money changers, He set an example for humanity that few have chosen to heed.

    Western Jewish Banking, Inc. will be the destruction of humanity if we Goyim don’t get serious, FAST.

    • Agree: Agent76
  89. Agent76 says:

    Apr 9, 2020 World Health Organisation and United Nations ‘as useless as each other’

    If there is one thing the public can learn from the fallout of the deadly coronavirus pandemic it is “how useless and politically correct the World Health Organisation is,” according to Sky News host Chris Smith.

  90. DaveE says:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    So ban such advertising.

    I disagree. Without some way to publicize a product, service or invention, no-one hears about a company, so it goes out of business. Obviously not workable for long. Publicizing your company and advertising are essentially the same thing.

    A corporation is not a person, so should not be allowed to personally own stocks in itself and others.

    I agree and then some. A corporation is a legal construct designed to take ownership and control of a company AWAY from the people who design the products and do the work. So – the solution is to abolish the concept of a “corporation” and the associated speculation (stock market) that goes along with it. Individually held companies – with profit sharing for its workers – is only legitimate and ethical way to do business – and to keep business away from the parasites of the world who contribute NOTHING of value to business and/or human civilization.

  91. @ben sampson

    Bill Gates did not allow his children to be vaccinated.

  92. Mefobills says:
    @follyofwar

    1965 Immigration Act, which changed the demographic make-up of the country forever.

    Since Demography is Destiny, this sinking Titanic cannot be turned around. To me, it is clear that the only possibility for the current dire situation to improve in the long run is for this Panopticon to be broken up into more manageable, more homegenous nation states.

    Yes… that is a logical conclusion. Why did it become a Panopitcon?

    Can this be accomplished, however? The Tyrant Lincoln, perhaps the worst president ever, showed what happens when rebellious states assert their independence, as permitted by the “dead letter” Constitution.

    You are conflating states rights with Oligarchy. They are two separate things.

    The South and West was turning into a Plutocracy/Oligarchy. Why? Jew bankers and their Sayanim in Wall Street cooked up a business plan for Atlantic Slave Trade. The ships were full of timber, hemp, and rum on the outbound legs, and full of African’s on the inbound leg. Our ((friends)) also made more money with slave cultivation of sugar to make rum.

    The south and west was de-linking from the industrializing north. The south was becoming a feudal oligarchy of land owner masters, with negro slaves. The slaves themselves were little more than tractors, who were used to make the land productive.

    Goods produced from the “lands” included King Cotton, which was mostly sold into England’s colonial system.

    The southern economy was a feudal land owning class, who exported cotton to the British Colonial System, and then imported finished goods from Britain in trade.

    If Lincoln had not intercepted this mechanism, the south and west would have become black with Negroes, and with a permanent oligarchy telling their Negroes how to vote.

    Telling Negro’s how to vote in turn would have been the tail wagging the dog. Effectively southern plutocrats would have come into control of the U.S. through their voting and money power. Meanwhile Jew and other finance capital would have been fine with it, as long as they can make a buck (similar to how it is done today with China).

    You have to separate states rights from the bleating of sociopath oligarchs, who will grab any sort of ideology as a cover and sop for their rent takings.

    Lincoln had Jew bankers to his back and to his front, so he was surrounded by enemies on all sides. The only reason Lincoln’s debt free green backs were allowed to be issued by Congress, is because there was an emergency, and the Wall Street bankers wanted usurious interest rates on money they didn’t have.

    Roberts knows “real history” is actually economic history. Your beef is that today’s states cannot separate from the “panopticon” that easily due to Lincoln.

    Separation becomes possible when states governors band together against the “central state” in Washington.

    My belief is that money power is the most important variable, and nothing can be done unless the money power problem is dealt with.

    Installing state banks into every state is probably the lowest hanging fruit, so state governors then have the money power to band together against today’s hostile elite; these elite are arrayed in Washington DC, wall street, and in corporate boardrooms.

  93. Mefobills says:
    @Robert White

    My university professors trained me to get paid for research as opposed to giving it away for free.

    Your university professors trained you to apply for grants.

    The grants in turn were funded by the taxpayer.

    I have had to correct you twice now… apparently your so-called education was ill-spent.

  94. @Mefobills

    I have a question Mr. Mefobills. On Joseph Huber’s Sovereign Money website ( sovereignmoney.site), he mentions that Banks have “Central Bank Money”/Reserves in a loop that is separate from Bank Money ( that we use and is created with loans ). My quick question is, what are the other names used for “Central Bank Money”/Reserves? because a google search does not bring up a lot of useful information. And I know Cash ( Federal Reserve Notes ) is only a small percentage of what they have so there has to be something else?

    Just looking for clarification on “Central Bank Money” and anything else you would like to add.

  95. @anon

    Well at least there is some attempt to use the scientific method. You apparently have no inkling what that is.

    In this case the evidence is all over the world to be tested. It is not solely in the hands of our government or any government. Any lab capable of doing genetic sequencing can use the evidence of its own infected citizens to come up with an answer. If you had looked at some of the papers referenced, you would know exactly why certain scientists do not think COVID – 19 is man made. To date, no labs that I know of have contested the conclusion that COVID – 19 is natural.

    That is the other thing. If you suspect a scientific result is wrong, then you can’t just sit on your hands and fuss about it if you have the means to replicate the experiment.

  96. @davidgmillsatty

    There are myriad incentives for me to remain circumspect regarding bioterrorism & geopolitics. You want peer-review and not open source. I’m open source Intel in the Medical SIGINT range of ability, and Finance SIGINT too.

    Being an intel mind is not the same as being an online journalist.

    RW

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  97. Mefobills says:

    I have a question Mr. Mefobills. On Joseph Huber’s Sovereign Money website ( sovereignmoney.site), he mentions that Banks have “Central Bank Money”/Reserves in a loop that is separate from Bank Money ( that we use and is created with loans ). My quick question is, what are the other names used for “Central Bank Money”/Reserves?

    The private banking system is best understood from hypothecation new debtor perspective.

    You, as a new debtor… walk up to a bank and ask to be hypothecated. The banker, by law is allowed to type up a new debt instrument. This new debt instrument (mortgage, etc.) becomes your liability and his asset. You gain the bankers new credit (federal reserve notes) as your asset, and his liability. Your double entry and banker double entry ledgers offset each other as a mirror only in that moment of hypothecation.

    (Later the double entry ledgers exponentially diverge with time, as part of the banker game – but that is another story.)

    Banks are not reserve constrained, but they do have to put some of their interest profits back into the reserve loop. When you pay back some of your loan, the “interest” portion that you pay does not land on the bankers double entry ledger, it passes through. The non interest part that pays principle does land on the ledger. Above I just mentioned how the double entry ledgers mirrored each other only at moment of hypothecation. Interest pass through is important.

    When your interest payment passes through, it becomes banker profit, and said profit lands on a profit ledger. Out of that profit, some of it is stuffed into banker reserves in a reserve ratio set by BIS basel rules. If a banker does not have enough money on hand at moment of hypothecation, to make his reserve commitment, he can get it usually within 48 hours on the overnight market.

    The reserve loops of private banks are connected to the FED. If you are a FDIC bank you have an account with the FED. The FED is connected to private banks via reserve loops, hence it is a system.

    The “bank money” Huber is talking about is what was created for you when you became hypothecated… Bank money is your asset and the bankers liability. Bank money is also called bank credit; also called On-Accounts, also called Federal Reserve Notes. Bank money is what everybody spends in the real economy as purchasing power.

    The reserve loop is separate from the real economy for the most part, because reserve monies are traded on the overnight market, which is a market place only for bankers and now some shadow banks. Reserve amounts are much smaller than on-accounts (bank money), with the ratio set by BIS.

    It is convenient to think of banking as two separate loops, with the real economy being funded by your hypothecation event, and reserve loops being separate and a place that only bankers are allowed to operate.

    System wide, banks also balance their double entry ledgers through their reserve channel. All of the transfers between banks happen through reserve channels.

    The other names: On-Accounts is a name used for your newly created credit, and it would be Bank Money. Any physical notes and most coins are also on-account money, where your account is decremented or increased with addition or subtraction of physical monies.

    Central Bank Money is usually called Central Bank Money. The FED can easily swap a TBill held in private bank reserves, for new cash created on the FED’s keyboard. Private banks like to hold TBills as reserves because Tbill/bonds pay interest

    TBills are really a bond (a debt instrument), but since they can be swapped for money so easily, the banker crowd prefers them as reserves.

    When a central bank does quantitative easing, central bank swaps a Tbill that is in bank reserves, for new cash created from the keyboard (Fed Reserve Balance Sheet).

    The FED creates new credit (FRN’s) as FEDs liability, and these become the asset of the private bank. The private bank has fewer TBills as an asset and more FRN’s as an asset in reserves.

    Hope above response helps. Huber is one of the few economists alive who knows his subject completely. He is not trying to baffle you with BS.

    Huber, like me, does not see a need for a separate reserve loop. The separation is a legacy of a bygone era.

    • Thanks: Ondra Hada
  98. @Mefobills

    Professor Emeritus Karl Marx is my all time favorite Economist of all time. This is why I am a loyal Grumpy Marxist, always.

    God bless Professor Emeritus Karl Marx.

    RW

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  99. @obwandiyag

    Government is never the answer, It’s always the problem. Commies such as yourself will never understand what it means not to have “Mommy issues”, as you love that jack boot on your throat. This one is for you and your red brethren here. Enjoy comrade!

    • Agree: 2stateshmustate
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  100. anon[223] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Anti-libertarian OP and many of the ignoramus anti-libertarian commenters (including one who says libertarianism can never work than proposes an approach developed BY LIBERTARIANS) come off as Commies.

    #SocialismIsTheVirus

  101. @Agent76

    One thing I would like to add to what John Titus said about the temptation of Jesus by the Devil.

    Christ never disputed that Satan was the Prince of this World. We know from Revelation 12 that Satan and his rebel angels were cast down to earth. Satan was in the Garden of Eden tempting Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis. Christ could not have been tempted by Satan if Satan did not have power over the kingdoms of this world. Christ is the new Adam who overcame temptation and was perfectly obedient to God the Father.

  102. Mefobills says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Government is never the answer, It’s always the problem. Commies such as yourself will never understand what it means not to have “Mommy issues”, as you love that jack boot on your throat.

    That is some shit-tier drivel. There is always hierarchy in mankind’s relations, and there is hierarchy right down to the cellular level of your body.

    Anybody with two brain cells to rub together can do a thought experiment. If you have any group of people that reaches a certain size, it will start to organize into a hierarchy. There will be a third person adjudicator when there is conflict.

    If the group gets sufficiently large, then the hierarchy will harden into some sort of legal structure.

    Let’s say we are on an island, and I am big and strong (which I am), and I have a lot of big and strong children. Then I decide to corner the fishing grounds on the island.

    I then use my strong family to corner and “take” the fishing grounds, because I want the price of fish to go high.

    I want the price of fish to go so high, that I can starve you out. Once you are starving I get to trade a fish for your daughter.

    Your daughter looks good to me, and I want her, and I got her for a fish.

    You would be one of the first people screaming for a sheriff or some sort of third person authority, to go and bash my head in.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  103. Bill Meyer says: • Website
    @obwandiyag

    And the fact that “we” had spies, too, means exactly what? That McCarthy was wrong? McCarthy wasn’t looking for our deep state crimes, but rather those who in secret warred against us. For that crime he was shamelessly smeared by the system whose progeny still rule us to this day.

  104. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh boy, comment 95, featuring davidgmillsatty mansplaining us about how only he knows the scientific method while fappin on the argumentum ad ignorantiam that no real scientist in the whole wide world disagrees with him, that he knows of, because how could he be expected to know about some commie girl, who’s not even Amurikan,

    go ahead, debunk her for us, mister wizard!

  105. Mefobills says:
    @Robert White

    God bless Professor Emeritus Karl Marx.

    I cannot tell if you are trying for LoL’s by using sarcasm.

    Karl Marx’s book Capital is fairly accurate, until Marx leaves out of equation the pernicious effect of compounding interest.

    Marx probably had to embed lies given his Jewish paymasters. I would say he was an advanced enough thinker to know he was purposefully embedding deception.

    This is probably why when he was on his deathbed, Marx said “I am a most unhappy man.”

    It turns out it was finance capitalist class that funded Marx, then funded Bolshevism, which then morphed into communism.

    Communism is based on several false conceits, especially “international” brother-hood of man linked together by class.

    • Disagree: Robert White
  106. eah says:

    It will be a world full of a lot more dumb government authoritarianism:

    Canada unlikely to return to normal until there is a COVID-19 vaccine

    • Replies: @eah
  107. eah says:
    @eah

  108. Bradley says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Wow An Australian supremacist who always knows better . How will Australia survive the scamdemic . The Chinese are standing by with their wallets open Aussies will sell and then go and live by the seaside , where they can become unemployed alcoholics , terrified to leave their house until Morrison , Berejiklian and Andrews tell them it’s safe from the germs .

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  109. @Bradley

    Apparently your ignorance is so complete that you don’t even know that the Morrison government has long since ramped up the protection of Australian businesses from being bought up cheap by cashed up foreigners adding to existing restrictions on buying existing houses.

  110. @obwandiyag

    Come to China where your ideas and intelligence are truly appreciated.

  111. Kim says:
    @Alfred

    The process by which we arrived at WW1 always confused me, but I recently read a book that really clarified a lot of things for me, in particular how damned disfunctional were the Habsburgs and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. They were utterly exhausted as a dynasty yet they refused to accept the fact that they no longer had what it took to be power players. Ergo, they engaged in some really stupid politics in the Balkans – thinking they could rule the roost there – and vis a vis Russia and Italy too. And the constitutional arrangement of the two kingdoms (Austria and Hungary) was a very bad idea that just made everything worse.

    Anyway, the book was “A Mad Catastrophe” by Geoffrey Wawro.

    • Replies: @Pandour
  112. cortesar says:

    This is your new world
    43k likes for the overt hate of a white family
    I would bet 43k covid masks that the ugly bitch is jewish

    • Replies: @eah
  113. @Robert White

    I am a retired lawyer, a litigator for 35 years; not an online journalist. Two can play that game. As a litigator, I am accustomed to having real proof, not having smoke blown up my ass.

    I want the scientific method. Peer review or open source — I don’t give a damn which. In the scientific method you re-run the test and take the risk that you could prove a result you don’t like is correct after all.

    As for gain of function for COVID 19 — there could be myriad. It really flunks the gain of function test. It could be more contagious. It could have caused an infected person to be more contagious sooner. It could have had a longer duration of asymptomatic infection. It could be more deadly. It really could be far less indiscriminate.

    If this was a designer virus, its gain of function was pretty piss poor. If it was a designer virus it looks to have lacked so much in the way of gain of function that it appears to have been designed to look natural. So there is not much reason to conclude that this virus was man made and not much reason to dispute the scientific conclusions that it was natural. This virus is so indiscriminate in who it infects, if it was a designed virus it is like having a big nuclear arsenal that just went off and over which all control has been lost. If this is bioweaponry, it is a total flop.

    So you can sit back with your pompous intel attitude and refuse to answer questions if you want, but I intend to continue to press you on it.

    • Replies: @RT
  114. @animalogic

    Really good reply: it concisely and squarely punctures the OP’s comments, which on first reading appear simply nihilistic, but further reflection reveals that their actual intent is to foster nihilistic thinking in the reader, which is much worse.

    How to counter such a strategy is becoming increasingly more important, and this reply is a great example of how to do that.

  115. @Kim

    Kim writes: “The first observation to be made about the “health care” systems that are always proposed and that we always end up getting are that they are not, in fact, “health care” systems because they couldn’t care less about “health”.”

    “So please now tell me all about your wonderful ideas for health care for all.”

    ‘Physician heal thyself’, and ‘let your food be your medicine’ are good basic advice, in my opinion. I have some decades of background in organic agriculture, and among other benefits, my own health, which when I was younger had its challenges, has for decades been remarkably good. It is not a mystery to many that nourishing food, fresh air, good sleep and good exercise are some of the basics. So I quite agree with the thrust of your critique of conventional ag and medicine and the pharmaceutical juggernaut.

    In Canada, I have had close personal experience with people who were harmed by the incompetence of the system, and people who faced life threatening illness and were saved by the system. In the latter cases, family support in addition to medical intervention was critically important. But the medical system’s help was necessary. It was less than fully sufficient.

    Another observation re those close calls that I am familiar with, that involved very considerable efforts by the medical system, is that serious financial difficulties were not incurred.

    What makes the situation very difficult for those who you refer to as sheep people, both generally and when it comes to health, is that we are inundated from birth by disinformation – lies, spin and censorship, and the subsequent morass of innocent misinformation. There is also the very great problem of the corruption of agencies and institutions that have the nominal role of guarding public health. So, for example in Canada, a long time Health Canada employee, Shiv Chopra PhD, wrote a book with a title that could be used extensively re other institutions. The title was Corrupt to the Core.

    In addition, there are now insidious contextual factors which are more or less inescapable: nuclear contamination, the geo-engineering crap, and harmful to life electromagnetic intrusions are prominent examples.

    But we are designed as tough weather sheep …. decadence is more of a threat than hardship.

  116. @mark green

    Many feminists are happily married women and men who don’t hate men but do take an interest in problems that are unique to women and the effect of those problems on everybody if our customs, traditions, laws, behaviors, manners, systems… don’t alleviate them.

  117. @The Alarmist

    100% overreach by the technocratic-managerial state. They panicked and went too far, now they sense that their fondest wish is in reach: total control.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  118. @Kim

    WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. What you say urgently needs to be repeated millions of times.

  119. @Change that Matters

    So what? Linh Dinh showed us that there were similar signs banning Chinese from restaurants and hotels in Vietnam and South Korea. At least the Chinese weren’t complaining unlike that Zimbabwean you linked. So the Chinese don’t want to catch ebola – good on them!

  120. What a lovely photo. Maybe the 43k likes were for the photo and not the comment. Do people even really bother to read the text when fast scanning through photos on social media?

  121. @Change that Matters

    …. And if a Chinese person goes to a restaurant in Zimbabwe, he’ll be welcome to come right in… “Bush meat’s back on the menu, boys!”

  122. @Kim

    3) Big Pharma and Big Med then treat and manage these conditions (never, ever curing them), so that from an early age the sickness of citizens becomes a reliable profit center and the wealth of the human being trapped in this system is constantly drained off by these pitiless con men.

    I had the Cholesterol discussion with my Doc, because I eat Keto to avoid other issues. The Doc was horrified and started writing a script for a statin, which I politely declined, at which point the Doc threatened to report me to the insurance co. as being non-compliant, which would get me dropped, so I take the script, fill it, and never take the pills. Instead, I do this, which works for most people:

  123. There is no cure for virus. It is not a living thing but snippets of genetic codes made out of protein. To kill it you have to destroy the protein. In a body, which is mostly made out of water and protein, it is impossible. The only way is to create vaccines to teach the body how to create antibodies that can identify these snippets of DNA codes and destroy them.

    • Replies: @RT
  124. eah says:
    @cortesar

    I would bet 43k covid masks that the ugly bitch is jewish

    Perhaps not 100% conclusive, but:

    • Replies: @eah
  125. @Mefobills

    Your daughter looks good to me, and I want her, and I got her for a fish.

    You would be one of the first people screaming for a sheriff or some sort of third person authority, to go and bash my head in.

    You touch my daughter or fck with me and mine there will be no sheriff calling. It will be handled “in house” and you will not survive. That’s a promise, not a threat you commie piece of human trash.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
    , @Mefobills
    , @ANZ
  126. Is it only me or does it seem like Unz Review has become a major mouth piece for the CPUSA?

    http://cpusa.org/

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  127. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Marshall Lentini

    Marshall Lentini says: ” 100% overreach by the technocratic-managerial state. They panicked and went too far, now they sense that their fondest wish is in reach: total control.”

    “Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”H. L. Mencken

    That time is now.

    Regards, onebornfree

  128. eah says:
    @eah

    She deleted the tweet (?) — learned Werewolf Bar Mitzvah is kind of a cult song (link) — it’s not big like Rocky Horror Picture Show, but it’s got a cult following.

    Anyway, I do not think she’s Jewish, and looking at her Twitter timeline, the tweet about the NordicTrack ad seems more ill-phrased than malevolent, and not typical of her usual interests or activity.

  129. RT says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    “If this was a designer virus, its gain of function was pretty piss poor”.
    Not if it was designed for a vaccine, and pretty piss poor as it happens with antiviral vaccines.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  130. RT says:
    @Brian Damage

    As a doctor dealing directly with this fire now, I disagree. All thousands attempts to create a vaccine against corona viruses, which are most of the common cold viruses failed. May be those attempts created new viruses, tough, since an antiviral vaccine is basically a virus, too. But a medication preventing the virus to enter the cell, or suppressing its replication in the cell is a viable option.

  131. Antworter says:

    We need to be adults and not TORTURE each other with fantasies of ‘changing the economy’ or ‘changing the political system’, just as you would be laughed at for ‘changing the banking system’.

    Take one example. Dental work. How are we going to get dental work now? A SINGLE COUGH from an infected non-presenting COVID patient will contaminate three dental bays. How will they work on your teeth, if you have to wear an n95 mask to be safe? Just answer that simple question, and you’ll see how pointless, even absurd, it is to talk about ‘changing the system’.

    We need to be focused like a LASER on affordable housing, affordable healthcare and affordable food. I don’t mean Free Medicare For All malarky, far from it. Why give more of our paychecks to an Even Deeper Deep State? That’s the definition of insanity.

    The big meme right now is ‘government did not act in time’, but that should be OUR meme! We did not act in time to cut-away the metastasizing Mil.Gov.Fed, which has now, this year, already spent into Budget and Debt and Deficit and Bailout all of the Worker Wealth saved since 1776!!

    Our total Worker Wealth was ~$31T at the end of 2019. The Deep State just blew right past that! And they’re going for another $6T to bail out their criminal fraud junk bond ETFs, right now!!

    We need to boycott the Red-Blue UniParty elections as a fraud, cash out our Wall Street investments, then show each other how to reduce our Federal tithe-taxes, trade for cash as much as possible, and teach each others’ children useful life and trade skills, instead of meaningless rote LISTEN AND REPEAT.

    This is a true national crisis!

  132. Pandour says: • Website
    @Kim

    Col. Alfred Redl,probably the greatest arch- traitor in history,head of the counter-intel wing of the Austro-Hungarian Army passed a copy of war plans to the Russians including troop deployment on specific fronts in case of a future war,plans for mobilization and principal attack plans,including the entire invasion plan of Serbia for which the Serbs prepared well.This without exaggeration cost Austria-Hungary the war.In the first months of the conflict the Austro-Hungarian Army lost hundreds of thousands of men,primarily on the Russian front,including most of its officer corps.Despite this,the army fought to the end-in Russia,the Balkans,Rumania and Italy and also committed several divisions to the Western front.Had Italy remained neutral after the collapse of Russia and the Austro-Hungarians transferred most of their units from Russia and those slated for the Italian front to the West,the party would have been over for the Brits and French long before the Americans arrived to bail them out.

  133. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Thanks.

    Regards, onebornfree

  134. ken19 says:

    Well Mr. Roberts called the woman that locked down Santa Monica a hero that saved millions of lives. He is an avid Global Warming activist ever since a hurricane visited his area. He now believes we should nationalize about everything. Government should pay salaries. Wants a debt jubilee that rewards those that went into debt as far and as fast as they could. Those that were responsible, that went without to save for the future are screwed. Wants to restore the concept of community when the nation was founded on the concept of the individual. Back and forth he goes from dystopia to utopia.
    The article just doesn’t seem freedom and constitutionally oriented.

  135. @RT

    First that is not what is meant by gain of function. Gain of function has to do with the virus being more deadly than would otherwise be the case. Whether natural or designer, a new virus would need a vaccine (according to virologists who think vaccines are necessary to fight viruses).

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @RT
  136. @davidgmillsatty

    One more thing. The purpose of a bioweapon is to enhance killing not to enhance vaccine production.

  137. @Mustapha Mond

    MM and GeeBee. I was working in a factory that made TV transmitters when I overheard an argument between the workers in the model shop and some people from the sales office. The sales people said that the Salesmen were more important than the workers who actually made the stuff the salesmen sold, because without them the factory would have no orders. The Workers in the model shop replied that if they didn’t make the stuff the salesmen had nothing to sell. The foreman, who to this point had stood silently listening said: “It’s very simple! If you have a good product and there is a need for it, it will sell itself. What’s bloody certain is that it will never make itself!”

  138. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Johnny Walker Read

    “Is it only me or does it seem like Unz Review has become a major mouth piece for the CPUSA?”

    I suspect its always been that way , for a couple of reasons:

    1] R. Unz himself is a left wing statist technocrat[ i.e. he’s socialist going on communist, just like the author of this article, PCR, and nearly all article contributors].

    2] Most people in the world , even in the US, are overwhelmingly socialist -going-on communist , so, given the pre-existing prejudices of the site creator, it is inevitable that most readers/commenters here are already victims of the mind-rotting virus usually referred to as “collectivism”, “socialism”, “communism”, “fascism” [or whatever].

    In any case, since I started reading posting here close to a year ago, it was immediately apparent to me, at least, that the site was overwhelmingly left wing statist biased, with a smattering of alt-right statist contributors [eg Buchanan ] , the occasional constitutionalist [eg R.Paul], and the occasional voluntarist [eg James Corbett], thrown in to give the superficial appearance of non – bias, or fairness.

    As they say: “Don’t let the bastards get you down!”

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Thanks: Johnny Walker Read
    • LOL: Mefobills
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  139. davidgmillsatty makes me sad. What’s a lawyer doing explaining biology to everybody? How come one of the million graduates of the fast-paced world of soul-murdering third-tier-toilet rote drudgery has so much time on his hands? No car crashes, no ambulances to chase? Nobody paying you to proofread docs in moldy basement bullpens for $9.50-an-hour? The human cost of this pandemic on mediocrities is appalling. Can’t someone get davidgmilllspattys an essential job emptying bedpans in a nursing home or something? Then at least he could talk about something he can grasp.

    • Agree: Robert White
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  140. ziggurat says:

    Paul Craig Roberts:
    Moreover, the coverage of a private system—and Medicare itself—has massive gaps. The resistance to a nationalized health service is ridiculous, especially as a nationalized service can coexist with a privatized one. Two are clearly better than one.

    I met a doctor from Portugal in the 1990s, who said that they have 2-way health care system, with both public and private hospitals. He said it works well for everyone.

    The doctors work in both the private and the public sector. In the private sector, they make more money. In the public sector, they have more interesting work. (I’m not sure why it’s more interesting.) In any case, the patients get good quality care from the same doctors, regardless of which system they use.

    But for the U.S., I think that it would just be too expensive, because our government is too corrupt. Also, our needs are potentially great, due to poor health.

    We need to work on lowering the price of health care first. I really like the idea of price transparency. The hospitals have to post prices for every treatment on a website, and they cannot charge one penny above the posted price. Then, people can shop around for the best price, which will lower the price of health care. Right now, we have absurd situations, where one hospital may charge $5000 for some treatment, and then another hospital across the street, charges $10000 for the same treatment. This would never happen in a free market.

    See Karl Denninger’s post, where he has many ideas, in addition to price transparency.
    https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231959

    Providers must post their prices and on demand honor them, along with affirmative consent requirements. A customer may present him or herself on January 1st 2018 and request the published price. If they do so then binding, fixed-price treatment per the price schedule and treatment consent rules in the bill must be honored. Note that all such binding prices must include any consequential events or complications (e.g. those caused by the treatment or the facility in question.)

    Off topic: Karl Denninger’s latest post is that we may be getting food shortages, as a result of the COVID-19 shutdowns:
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238925

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Denninger

    Here are a lot of interesting health care comments here from an old Steve Sailer post:
    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/04/soak-senile.html

    • Replies: @Miro23
  141. Incitatus says:

    “Elites are working to make it [COVID-19] better for them, and worse for the rest of us.”

    LOL. “Rest of us.”?

    Who’s more “elite” than poor-poor populist economist (snake-oil-salesman) DC insider Paul Craig Roberts? Georgetown’s William E. Simon (consummate scum-bag M/A offshoring pirate – Anchor Glass, Hallmark, etc.) chair in ‘Political Economy’?

    PCR reborn. Appears with a comfortable tax-deductible 501c3 charity ‘Institute for Political Economy’ [$3,408,539 in income, $4,416,157 in assets]. A slush fund that lubricates crackpot op-eds, all subsidized by ordinary tax payers (who don’t get any exemption).

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=521381988

    Elites”? Look in the mirror PCR.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  142. RT says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    This virus is not a bioweapon, it is a result of the profitable industry to create vaccine against SARS/MERS. Botched result.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  143. Mefobills says:
    @Incitatus

    Elites”? Look in the mirror PCR

    Wow, you spun up a nice story to indicate how PCR is controlling things from behind the scenes. Maybe he rubs his hands together and counts his (((shekels))) while cackling with glee?

    Overactive Amygdala much? Did this story come out full blown in a mushroom induced vision?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  144. @Thomas M. Cooley Law School Alumni Assn.

    I am retired, asshole.

    And it appears nobody here can take on a litigator other than to make ad hominem attacks. I would love to see a discussion on this board by virologists who know this subject intimately. I would gladly just sit back and listen and learn.

    But we don’t have any virologists here or even any medical doctors or PhD’s in medical science. We just have people who love to play them on the internet. Zero qualifications and acting like they have some medical or scientific knowledge. And then once they have decided what the virology is, then they want to apply it to politics.

    I don’t know what your handle means. Are you a lawyer? Are you a non-lawyer representing the alumni association of your school? What the hell are you doing? You sure are not doing your law school any favors by calling a lawyer an ambulance chaser. Who gave you permission to use the law school’s name? Bad move.

    • Replies: @RT
  145. @RT

    Easy to make the claim. Where is the proof? We have people saying it is a government somewhere doing it and now we have someone saying it is big pharma.

    All I ask for is some proof of these claims so that I can evaluate them for myself. You have a problem with that?

    • Replies: @RT
  146. @onebornfree

    Ron Paul, a Constitutionalist? What does it take to be one? Somebody who carries a pamphlet of the Constitution in his pocket?

    • LOL: Ondra Hada
  147. derer says:

    The memories of 2008 meltdown are not that old. The “herd of sheep” has forgot about the disgusting 1 trillion bailout of greedy bankers 100 mill bonuses by the Washington conspiring taxpayer money handlers. The hypocritical promises of drastic changes for the whole financial sector to prevent future failures and abuses have become just a big lie. Nothing has changed. Therefore, even this debilitating pandemic crises will not change anything – the transfer from poorer to richer will always continue.

    We have now technology for true democracy in DIRECT VOTING. The corrupted politicians should be reduced to debating the issues but public would decide by Friday’s electronic voting.

    • Replies: @Robert Snefjella
  148. @Antworter

    It is literally time to make that CPUSA poster reality. Time to off the Romanovs, the Kulaks, sharpen up the pitchforks and the guillotines. The things you talk about can only be accomplished under Socialism.

  149. @derer

    “We have now technology for true democracy in DIRECT VOTING. The corrupted politicians should be reduced to debating the issues but public would decide by Friday’s electronic voting.”

    Therein lies potently beneficent potential. But with the proviso that electronic voting fraud be treated as an extremely serious crime, tantamount to treason, and the need for cultivating a public political discourse which is reality based. This would include rethinking corporate or intelligence agency or military control of communications.

    Note that central to the Yellow Vest movement in France is the call for direct democracy, with extensive suggestions offered in that regard.

    And one of the very damaging norms in all so called ‘western liberal democracies’ – none of which are western, or liberal, or democracies – is the extensive power of appointment by corrupt or dysfunctional political power. This leads to hundreds of agencies of government or institutions being led by people who are in effect political appointees; not based on merit but on other less admirable qualities. Thus the extensive problem of corrupt institutions: Not so much because the little people in the bowels of the institution are corrupt, though this may be the case, but because the leadership is rotten. Direct democracy or voting can – pardon me for this inflammatory word – trump the current system of appointment.

  150. RT says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    As easy as your own claims. When people like me don/doff all day around COVID patients there is no time to collect proof, but it is going to be collected. The official claims are that there is a lack of evidence that this virus is not natural ( from the market near virology lab in Wuhan, oh) , but the lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack as every real scientist would tell you.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  151. RT says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    You are going to wait a very very long time for virologists to tell you the truth. Like the chief of Wuhan lab.

  152. Mefobills says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Johnny,

    It was an illustration of how if you are starving, you will give your daughter away for a fish.

    You have made a fool of yourself and are proving my point.

  153. ANZ says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    I’m sure you are familiar with Jeffrey Epstein. He got extremely wealthy through mischevious finance and used his position to prey on the daughters of poor people.

    That’s a rough example of buying a daughter for a fish.

    If the Fed continues to aid its member banks in disposessing Americans, there will be a lot more Jeffrey Epsteins. Prostitution was rampant in Weimar Germany. Berlin was a cesspool where daughters could be had by the predatory wealthy for pennies. When people are destitute, they will prostitute themselves for a meal, as history shows.

  154. Oh, my! 145!! davidgmillsatty!!! ‘Asshole!’ Touchy, touchy! Have we inadvertently tweaked a nerrrrvve? Were we not top 14? Were our shoes not always ever so sparkly white?

    A litigator – Oooooh! Ace has-been litigator davidgahmmilsapssuttee is out to pasture in a comforting days-of-yore fantasy world where people view lawyers as distinguished personages of some sort, rather than scrabbling lumpenproles who can’t do math or science.

    Were you actually adept at legal reasoning, you would have considered applying the apposite legal framework, state responsibility principles, A/RES/56/83, instead of reflexively defending your criminal regime like it’s your swarthy monobrow mobster client. But then, US legal training does imbue its victims with proud ignorance of The Paquete Habana decision and its implications.

    On the other hand, you are entirely correct about UBI, which tells us that your heart is in the right place. Your declining years could be the perfect time to grow and change and learn about real law in grown-up countries of the civilized world. Cheers to you as the fog rolls in on Golden Pond!

  155. Miro23 says:
    @ziggurat

    I met a doctor from Portugal in the 1990s, who said that they have 2-way health care system, with both public and private hospitals. He said it works well for everyone.

    The doctors work in both the private and the public sector. In the private sector, they make more money. In the public sector, they have more interesting work. (I’m not sure why it’s more interesting.) In any case, the patients get good quality care from the same doctors, regardless of which system they use.

    Exactly the same as the Spanish system today. The doctors/specialists often work in both sectors, for example the morning in one and afternoon in the other. It works fine.

    Having used both sectors, the difference is, that the private hospitals don’t have long waiting lists and give a private room + more comfort. The machines and healthcare quality are the same.

    Everyone has to contribute to the national social security system either as an employee (contribution from the employer and employee deducted monthly) or self employed (also deducted each month) and receive free hospital treatment and a state pension (not much).

    Although everyone has to contribute to the state system, some choose to pay extra for private healthcare or take out extra private health insurance. Equally some contribute to private pension systems to get a bigger pay out on retirement.

    IMO it works very well and provides a lot for the money. The Spanish are very loyal to their healthcare system and it’s a key part of government legitimacy.

    • Thanks: ziggurat
  156. @Robert Snefjella

    We certainly have the data technology now for direct voting. If we can keep track of social security numbers, driver’s license/state ID numbers, etc., we can implement direct voting.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  157. @RT

    “There is a lot of evidence that the virus is not natural.” That is false.

    If it was not natural, there would be lots of evidence of suspicious gain of function. There is very little of that. And virologists everywhere have been looking. Even MD’s talk about how this could have been more contagious. How infected people could have stayed contagious longer. How this does not have the fatality rate of SARS or MERS.

    I keep asking all of the people who claim there is a suspicious gain of function to tell me what it is. All I get is crickets. Nothing specific. Just an unsupported claim.

    • Replies: @RT
  158. @Kim

    Excellent points all, sir. I share your resentment of these big corporations profiting by raising American children to eat this garbage and harm themselves from the start of their lives.

    Why not both reject the garbage food system AND provide good medical insurance and accessible medical care to all US Citizens? It’s not an either/or proposition.

  159. @Assad al-islam

    Legally and morally, Crimea wasn’t the USA’s to “give” or keep as part of the Ukraine.

    The people of Crimea wanted to reunite with Russia.

    As for Russia being in Syria, would you prefer that the (apparently US-backed) Islamist extremists prevail and murder or subjugate the Christians, Alawites, and “insufficiently devout” muslims there?

    I don’t know that Israel will soon disintegrate or be defeated in battle, but I hope so — as you seem to hope as well.

    • Replies: @Assad al-islam
  160. Incitatus says:
    @Mefobills

    “Wow, you spun up a nice story to indicate how PCR is controlling things from behind the scenes”

    I responded to PCR’s “elites” COVID-19 rant, related his DC insider provenance and $3-4 million+ 501c3 (‘please Uncle Sam fund my crackpot conspiracy editorials – though I have a government pension and health care, I need more money’). Nothing more.

    Projection much?

    “(((shekels)))”

    Gratuitous Jew-phobia thrown in? Well done! You’re quite the scholar. Sorry. Not Jewish. Couldn’t care less. Try again.

    “Overactive Amygdala much? Did this story come out full blown in a mushroom induced vision?”

    No idea what you’re referring to. Surprise, surprise. Try again.

    You (due respect) seem PCR’s perfect patsy. By all means, send your tax-deductible contribution to his 3+ million dollar ‘Institute for Political Economy’ (whatever that’s about), enjoy his self-serving nihilist rants against “elites”, and comfort yourself that he’s a beer-drinking proletarian (just like kindred 501c3 DC libertarian revisionist Pat Buchanan). Doubtless both probably drink Château Petrus.

    Ask yourself this: does PCR’s ‘Institute for Political Economy’ employ professors, hold classes, grant degrees? Doubt it.

    PCR opined (like Alex Jones) the Sandy Hill massacre (Newtown CT) was staged. I had family in Newtown. PCR is just another carnival barker, not much different from the geek who bites heads off chickens to the intense satisfaction of people like you.

    John Kenneth Galbraith got it right: “The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable”.

    Economics ranks with other ‘social sciences’ slightly ahead of Phys-Ed (12 credit-hours/semester, classes three days/week). Unlike architecture, engineering, medicine and science (where mistakes kill people) ‘economists’ (like astrologers) have full license for career incompetence. It’s all opinion, best read post-mortem (well after the fact). Best with a 501c3 slush fund that pays the (non-elite) bills.

    Stay well, Mefobills

  161. RT says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    I don’t know who you are quoting. There is no evidence for anything, at least not yet, or may neve be. There are ,however, high probabilities. I am an MD, so read here: this virus is way more contagious compared to SARS and MERS , but it is less lethal. So, there is no gain of function, therefore, it is unlikely to be a bioweapon. But it has two very unnatural inserts (spikes) of SARS and HIV in itself, which do not exist in the bat/pangolin corona viruses. What is it then?
    This virus does not produce long term immunity (it actually suppresses the T cells just like HIV and one of the ominous signs is lymphopenia) evident from South Korea and Singapore studies and will require vaccine every year, may be mandatory for all. Use your legal mind now.Qui bono?
    And remember, that in science, unlike in justice, lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack, as I already said, i.e. if we do not have evidence, the case is not closed.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  162. Nice writing PCR. I agree. Sadly writing rational things that make sense get you denounced by the CDS (commie derangement syndrome) infected sock puppets here.

  163. @RT

    Well finally somebody with a background to answer my questions. I would certainly be interested in learning more about the spikes you mention. Where can I check them out?

    My father was a biochemistry professor and taught med school and grad school for forty years and my brother is a PhD in biophysics but who did biochemistry for most of his career (retired now). Dad is dead but my brother is very good at sorting this out and I also know some other scientists as well. I want to know all I can about these spikes. So sources will be appreciated.

    I am glad you have confirmed for me that this is not a bioweapon and there is no gain of function.

    So obviously you think big pharma is behind this. But if that turns out to be the case, big pharma is dead as a door nail. They will have lost all trust. As you say, qui bono?

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  164. @RadicalCenter

    Hi RC,

    I am looking at things differently now, since I stopped believing most of the USA Politicians and Military are sell out to Israel. I am looking now in causes and effects.

    1. 9/11 lead us to Afghanistan and Iraq wars. The consequences, Afghans are battle hardened. And, Shia Crescent (btw I am a Shia, so are the Alawites). Both Hezbollah and Iran are in Syria, and many more Sunnis from Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Chechena are in Syria too. All battle hardened.

    2. Nuland spending 4 billions in Ukraine. The consequences, Russia walking in and taking back the Crimea without firing a shot. Crimea is very important for Russia as it gives them quick access to the Mediterranean Sea and to Middle East. Israel access is either through Mediterranean Sea on the North, and Red Sea on the South.

    3. Obama red line about Syria using the chemical weapons. The false flag against Syria using chemical weapons. The UK Parliament denying the then PM David Cameron war authority on Syria, and subsequently the USA Congress too. On a live TV show, Lavrov asking Kerry to give them six months to remove all chemical weapons from Syria. The consequences, Russia is back in the Middle East and they are there to stay for a long, long time.

    4. The Yemen war. The consequences, Iran controlling the Bab al-Mandib thus controlling Isreal’s access from the South through the Red Sea.

    5. Obama being chided by Netanyahu. The consequences, Obama under supposedly duress suggesting to Netanyahu, a JEWISH democratic state of Israel. Music to Netanyahu ears.

    6. The 29 standing ovations by US Congress to Netanyahu. The consequences, Netanyahu is so full of hot air, along with the rest of the Jews such as AIPAC, they have all let their guards down and openly claim that they control the World and USA too. Netanyahu is personally involved in 3 criminal cases and Israel has no stable government for the last 18 months and maybe, headed for the fourth election.

    7. Israel is so divided and then comes Fake Coronavirus. The consequences, the whole world is in tailspin. Conservatives, like Dr. Robert suggesting socialism and nationalizing the banks and other industries. His above article is a summary for his long article on his site, which is linked above. Someone like Dr. Roberts to think about socialism and nationalizing the industries is haram, haram, haram let alone promoting it.

    8. The best thing I like about Trump and Putin is that Trump openly prays in the White House and Putin has brought back religion in Russia.

    Connect the dots, a happy world is in front of us, that atleast for the next 200 years satan is defeated, but the serpent will rise its head again.

  165. @Robert White

    I’m a Grumpy Marxist pinko Commie bastard opposed to false so-called ‘Capitalism’ & religious fundamentalism as espoused by Jesus Christ & King James Bible, & Islam’s Koran & so-called prophet Mohammad.

    Wrong! It is the religion which promulgates socialism and caring for the poor and meek. Where as the Devil promulgates Capitalism and Communism, as it is one coin with two sides being the same……

  166. @davidgmillsatty

    You might be referring to the conclusions of some Indian researchers in a preliminary paper titled “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag.”

    From a Forbes article titled: ”

    “No, The Coronavirus Was Not Genetically Engineered To Put Pieces Of HIV In It”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/02/02/no-coronavirus-was-not-bioengineered-to-put-pieces-of-hiv-in-it/#15f764d656cb

    Based on analysis of multiple, very short regions of proteins in the novel coronavirus, the bioRxiv paper claimed that the new coronavirus may have acquired these regions from HIV,” said Arinjay Banerjee, PhD, a postdoctoral fellow in virology at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada who has extensively studied coronaviruses.

    Some types of viruses can swap pieces of their genetic code and in this case,the authors of the study say that the specific coronavirus which is involved in the most recent outbreak (2019-nCoV) has four small chunks of sequence in its genetic code which are not found in other, similar coronaviruses like SARS. According to the authors, these pieces bear some resemblance to bits of sequence also found in HIV.

    However, the authors then speculated that this might not be a coincidence and perhaps the bits of genetic code were put there intentionally. The conspiracy theory was addressed today by a scientist from the Wuhan Institute of Virology at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, who rubbished the claims.

    The wider scientific community, upon seeing the paper, were also less than impressed with these conclusions and speculations and swiftly set about not only voicing their concerns, but analyzing the data to double-check the results.

    Essentially, the scientists found that yes, there are some additions in the nCoV coronavirus originating in Wuhan that other coronaviruses don’t have, which are similar to pieces of sequence found in HIV. But, the kicker here is that these pieces of genetic code are also found in countless other viruses and there’s no reason to believe they specifically came from HIV, at all.

    “The authors compared very short regions of proteins in the novel coronavirus and concluded that the small segments of proteins were similar to segments in HIV proteins. Comparing very short segments can often generate false positives and it is difficult to make these conclusions using small protein segments,” said Banerjee.

    The paper was withdrawn from bioRxiv on Sunday afternoon with one of the authors stating: “ it was not our intention to feed into the conspiracy theories and no such claims are made here.”

    If you have some other or more recent information on this please let me know, because it is important to get this right.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  167. Phoenix says:

    Mr. Roberts refers to dystopian and anti-dystopian wish lists.

    What is on your anti-dystopian wish list for America? An item from my list:

    Popularize widespread disregarding of unconstitutional laws and orders and laws based largely on deception or greed.

  168. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

    Probably, but driver’s licenses and State IDs won’t work because all States give them to legal-resident non citizens and some States absurdly give them out even to illegal aliens.

    To ensure that only US Citizens vote, we’d need to use US Passport numbers (and make passports available for free or nearly so).

  169. @davidgmillsatty

    Virus did not originate in Wuhan as per Cambridge University researcher:

    USAID (Predict) program has been funding and contracting labs worldwide to investigate coronaviruses. Wuhan Lab is a partner:

    https://www.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/documents/1864/Predict2-factsheet.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2nPiCZvjGvh-AcSu3QpFf6Tnu5k-AVgyWz3q7yGYt016XUiphUPZQtd58

    Nature medicine article with USAID funding coronavirus research in 2015:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

    Investigative journalist George Webb has a lot of information:

  170. Svevlad says:

    There will be blood. The coronavirus is nothing, the ensuing mess (basically a global civil war) will mean like, at least 2 billion dead, another billion permanently disabled

  171. @Mefobills

    Historical reality consistent w/ portrayal by Nation Of Islam Research Group in their scholarly four volume series The Secret Relationship between Blacks and Jews which Mr. Unz singlehandedly brought to mainstream prominence with his extensive favorable citings and republications here:

    The South and West was turning into a Plutocracy/Oligarchy. Why? Jew bankers and their Sayanim in Wall Street cooked up a business plan for Atlantic Slave Trade. The ships were full of timber, hemp, and rum on the outbound legs, and full of African’s on the inbound leg. Our ((friends)) also made more money with slave cultivation of sugar to make rum.

  172. BAP says:

    The same people, institutions and businesses that failed to keep order, stability and prosperity are now pushing their prescripted solutions that never worked before into their slaves.
    Will you accept it? Will they keep their criminal leadership? Yes, because you are stupid, but this time they will have to change their methods of exercising power to very strange solutions in the style of what their dystopian media have shown us since decades ago.
    The price of letting this kind of people (psychopaths and sociopaths) do everything they want will get a lot higher as technology progresses.

  173. meena says:

    Will USA learn from UK’s experience with Israel

    “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected a request from U.K. Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to allow ventilators to be exported from Israel to the U.K., Israeli officials tell me.
    Why it matters: The U.K. is one of Israel’s closest allies, and it’s facing one of the world’s worst coronavirus outbreaks. Raab made the request last week while deputizing for Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who was hospitalized with severe coronavirus symptoms but has since been released.–
    https://www.axios.com/israel-ventilator-export-uk-coronavirus-outbreak-a5ea85f5-0dd8-46ee-8bb9-edd986f9b9f3.html

    New world is possible if we learn .

  174. FB says: • Website

    Another absolutely excellent article from the venerable PCR…who is literally a giant among today’s commentators…

    Folks, I only wish that more people would seriously think through the message that this highly experienced and indeed very wise economist and policy maker is preaching…

    As usual, a lot of the comments here are completely retarded and a waste of time…this is of course indicative of the general state of stupidity and illustrates why we are in such a mess…

  175. “A New World Is Being Born: What Will It be?”

    More Jew controlled, and we more plundered and closer to destruction. What’d I win?!

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