The Unz Review • An Alternative Media Selection
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 BlogviewPeter Lee Archive
Sean Penn's Bungle in the Jungle...Or Not?
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information


Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Thanks, LOL, or Troll with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used three times during any eight hour period.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Something Here
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

Did the DEA hijack Sean Penn’s expedition to El Chapo’s lair in order to implant a tracking device?

Before readers roll their eyes at the prospect of such elaborate and reckless derring-do, consider the little-known scope and intensity of US military and law enforcement activities south of the border when it comes to nailing somebody the US really wants nailed.

In its details and philosophy, the hunt for Joaquin Guzman a.k.a. El Chapo closely mirrors US efforts to take out Pablo Escobar that culminated with Escobar’s death in a US/Colombian security operation in 1993. Escobar, like El Chapo, was one of those talented, entrepreneurial, and murderous narcos who built a popular base, subverted law enforcement, corrupted government and society, and walked out of country club imprisonment to the fury of the United States.

Before the Global War on Terror, the War on Drugs was seen as the best post Cold-War payday for the American mil-sec quadrant. JSOC was in Colombia. Indeed, so was Jerry Boykin, the notorious “my God is bigger than your god” religious megalomaniac, as a leader of the first Delta Force team. So was everybody else. Over a dozen US government agencies, basically every military and civilian spook service, piled into Bogota to participate in the hunt for Escobar.

The US rolled out all sorts of military, civilian, ground, and air-based communications technology to locate Escobar. The Escobar operation in the 1990s has the first public record I’ve seen of the government’s ability to clandestinely turn on a cell phone that had been shut off, tell it to emit a signal, and use it as a tracking device. That’s why you always need to remove your battery from your cell phone to disable it. Pro tip, kids.

When it came time to actually nail Escobar, it wasn’t just a matter of sophisticated US signint. Things got…kinda unconventional.

Mark Bowden’s book about the U.S. role in the campaign to do away with Escobar,Killing Pablo, shows the U.S. used its SIGINT capabilities to map Escobar’s associates. Lists of these associates apparently found their way to a particularly bloody minded office in the Colombian security establishment and led to a wave of extrajudicial killings, both by Colombian security forces and a government-tolerated death squad, “Los Pepes”, to isolate and ultimately trap Escobar. It appears likely that, as the bodies of people on the lists piled up, the U.S. government at the operating level knew of, approved, and abetted the campaign of extrajudicial killings. Los Pepes, by the way, morphed into the AUC right wing death squads that conducted a campaign of terror in the Colombian countryside that killed around 25,000 people and created, pre-Syria, the largest population of Internally Displaced Persons in the world.

When Escobar was finally caught, the Colombian security forces predictably did not give him a chance to surrender. What is a little less predictable is the allegation that a moonlighting Delta Force sniper (Delta Force was in Colombia but officially only allowed to conduct training) actually carried out the extrajudicial execution as Escobar frantically scrabbled over a rooftop away from his hideaway.

The other big U.S. law enforcement operation in Latin America pre-El Chapo, the rescue of Ingrid Betancourt and three American drug war contractors from the clutches of the FARC insurgency in Colombia in 2008, also involved a good amount of the same formula of SIGINT plus extra-legal dirty dealing, as well as a remarkable degree of reckless political gamesmanship. For this story, you have to come to me and a mini-book length piece of mine, Betancourt: The Inside Story.

The French government was obsessed with Betancourt and supported a negotiation effort headed by a retired French diplomat, Noel Saez, and a Swiss hostage negotiator, Jean-Pierre Gontard. There is persuasive evidence they were on the brink of securing the release of the hostages and were indeed journeying to the Ecuadorian hideaway of FARC’s chief negotiator, Raul Reyes to seal the deal.

No deal was sealed, since the Colombian government (which had ostensibly sanctioned the negotiations) warned off Saez & Gontard three days before they would have arrived at the camp. Colombian military aircraft conducted a cross-border raid on March 1, 2008, bombing the camp, killing twenty people, including Reyes, and landing a party to recover corpses and intel. Supposedly, the US was able to pinpoint the camp through interception of a satellite phone call between Reyes and Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez celebrating a preliminary release of Colombian hostages.

The story here is baroque enough to cause brainhurt because it appears that FARC was in days of voluntarily releasing the hostages to the negotiators, a PR victory for FARC and their patron, Hugo Chavez, that the US and Colombian governments were loath to allow; on the other, the US government was apparently working on its own deal, using a FARC girlfriend in custody in the United States to negotiate with her commandante boyfriend via satellite phone to shop the hostages…

The upshot was the notorious “rescue” of July 2, 2008 by Colombian special forces, four months after the bombing raid. The impersonation of an International Red Cross mission had allegedly been meticulously planned for months but was so inept the hostages themselves immediately realized it was a hoax (one giveaway: purported ICRC staffers wearing Che Guevara T-shirts and hauling a case of beer for the thirsty rebels).

But what’s truly impressive is the resources the US government devoted to recovering the three US contractors—over a quarter of a billion dollars.

Overall responsibility was in the hands of of U.S. Southern Command, Admiral James Stavridis, who stated on his blog:

[Stansell, Howes, and Gonsalves] were the top priority of U.S. Southern Command, and over the course of five years, we expended over $250 million, 17,000 flight hours, 3,600 air sorties, and undertook many operations in the jungle to try and recover our shipmates.

Plenty of non-military resources as well, as Frank Bajak reporte d for the AP:

From mid-June on, [U.S. Ambassador to Colombia William] Brownfield and a team of 100 people at the U.S. Embassy who had been dedicated to securing the American hostages’ release worked closely with the Colombians running the operation.

“The truth of the matter is, we have actually come together in a way that we rarely have in the United States of America, except with longtime allies, principally NATO allies,” Brownfield said of relations with Colombia’s security forces, which have received more than $4 billion in military aid since 2000.

Several times, he said, the U.S. government had to make decisions — “at the highest levels” — about proceeding.

During this time, Admiral Stavridis was in contact with Ambassador Brownfield three to four times a day.

The Escobar and Betancourt cases present a pretty consistent picture of US operations when pursuing what we now call HVTs (High Value Targets): clandestine involvement to dodge the local sovereignty/legality/political headaches; provision of massive US resources with an emphasis on SIGINT capabilities; compartmentalized cooperation with a few trustworthy local partners to preserve operational security in a corrupt, leak-prone environment; and a willingness to engage in skullduggery to catch the bad guys.

With that context, let’s look at the El Chapo case.

There’s more than a whiff of American involvement in the ostensibly Mexican government capture of El Chapo.

First, some dramatic foreshadowing on January 5, 2016, a couple days before the capture:

“Everyone is looking for him, and we’ll get him again,” said the DEA official, who according to the Washington newspaper, “brimmed with anger at the mere mention of El Chapo.”

The agent also explained that U.S. agents are strictly banned from talking to the media about Guzman, who escaped a maximum security jail for a second time in July 2015.

According to the DEA analyst, Chapo will likely be captured or killed in a shootout with security forces within two years at most. Meanwhile other U.S. law enforcement agents told The Washington Times that they are confident that the “international manhunt” is closing in on El Chapo and “his days of freedom are numbered.”

Official story: Mexican Marines captured El Chapo fortuitously a couple days later while chasing some other guys.

But then, the discreet crowing of the soldier-of-fortune crowd:

In the lead for the capture were the Mexican Marines, who are the go-to preferred force for counter-drug cartel operations in a country where public officials are often hopelessly corrupt. It is interesting to see how, around 2006 or 2007, the Mexican Marines suddenly became very effective at direct-action (DA) raids. Such raids were responsible for capturing and killing high-value targets (HVTs), causing speculation that the Marines were receiving a little help from their North American neighbors. America has also leveraged its significant signals intelligence (SIGINT) capabilities to help the Mexican authorities track down drug cartel leaders.

In regards to the latest El Chapo capture, SOFREP has been told that it was actually the U.S. Marshals who had an important role in tracking down the drug lord. Also on the ground was the U.S. Army’s elite counterterrorism unit, Delta Force. Operators from Delta served as tactical advisors but did not directly participate in the operation.

As to the intensity of US engagement on the issue, and the inescapable SIGINT component, there’s a nice, in depth piece in the New Yorker from last year by Patrick Radden Keefe (on the occasion of El Chapo’s previous capture) that gives an idea of the high level US interest in the case and the resources it made available.

Keefe’s piece also hints at US cultivation of an elite Mexican Marine detachment, SEMAR, as a reliable, pro-US force to receive and exploit all that quality SIGINT. Working through a trusted professional military force is certainly an improvement over the opportunistic outsourcing of the Escobar liquidation effort to death squads organized by his rivals (but maybe not too much improvement; Keefe gives credence to speculation that SEMAR tortures detainees to obtain fresh, actionable intel and also has a tendency to kill everybody in the room during the conduct of a raid if surrender is not instantaneous).

In 2009, Dennis Blair, President Barack Obama’s national intelligence director, met with Guillermo Galván, who was then Mexico’s Secretary of Defense. Galván told him that everybody knew, roughly, where Guzmán was. The challenge was taking him into custody.

In early February of this year, when the special-forces unit from SEMAR began making forays into Sinaloa, it was the first time that Mexico’s marines had ever pursued such a significant operation in the state. Unlike the Mexican Army—which tended to move slowly, and always informed state authorities before conducting an operation, even when those authorities were corrupt—the marines were nimble and secretive. They mobilized rapidly, on Blackhawk helicopters, and did not ask permission before initiating raids.

Apart from the admiral who commanded them and a few senior personnel, none of them knew where they were headed or who their target might be until they boarded a Blackhawk to undertake the mission. Several days before an operation, the commandos were obliged to surrender their cell phones, to protect against leaks.

For years, U.S. law-enforcement officers had chafed at the pretense that they were merely “advising” their Mexican counterparts in the fight against the narcos; some of them wanted American armed forces to have wide operational latitude on the ground, as they had once had in Colombia. …Peña Nieto’s administration began capturing or killing some of the country’s most brutal drug kingpins, often in close collaboration with the U.S.

It has been reported, erroneously, that Guzmán used a satellite phone; in fact, his favored communication device was the BlackBerry. Like many narcos, he was suspicious of satellite phones, because most of the companies that manufacture them are American and the devices are relatively easy for law-enforcement officials to compromise. But the BlackBerry is made by a Canadian company, and Guzmán felt more comfortable using one. This trust was misplaced: by early 2012, the D.E.A. had homed in on Guzmán’s BlackBerry, and could not only monitor his communications but also use geolocation technology to triangulate his signal.

[Then El Chapo wised up and reduced his personal communications to a single cutout] Upon receiving the message, the lieutenant would transcribe it onto an iPad, so that he could forward the text using WiFi—avoiding the cellular networks that the cartel knew the authorities were trolling. The transcribed message would be sent not to Guzmán but to a second intermediary, who, also using a tablet and public WiFi, would transcribe the words onto his BlackBerry and relay them to Guzmán. Although Guzmán continued to use a BlackBerry, it was almost impossible to track, because it communicated with only one other device.

This is sometimes described as a “mirror” system, and it is fiendishly difficult for authorities to penetrate (especially when the transcribers keep moving from one WiFi hot spot to another). Nevertheless, by studying the communications patterns of the cartel, analysts at the Special Operations Division of the D.E.A. eventually grasped the nature of the arrangement. They resolved to focus on the small ring of logistical facilitators surrounding Guzmán, to identify the mirrors that he was using, and, ultimately, to target their communications.

So U.S. government was massively involved in SIGINT-intensive pursuit of El Chapo. Now consider Sean Penn’s visit in October.

Not much consideration in the popular press, since US journos generally seem obsessed with the idea of knocking down the Penn interview on ethical, journalistic, and stylistic grounds. The most bizarre manifestation of this mindset appears to be the New York Times doing its best to bigfoot the Penn interview by reporting it shortly before it had even gone live on the Rolling Stone website.

But the Mexican government said it was somehow able to acquire information on El Chapo’s whereabouts—in an area of Sinaloa according to some reports without cellphone coverage—at the time of Penn’s visit:

Mexican Attorney General Arely Gomez confirmed Saturday that it was Penn and del Castillo to whom she was referring when she said earlier that Guzman’s communications with “actors and producers” had “formed a new line of investigation” before Guzman’s capture.

She said authorities were able to track the drug lord’s meetings with lawyers and other associates and identify his whereabouts in October — apparently close to the time he met with Penn and del Castillo in a mountainous jungle redoubt.

Subsequently, the Mexican military blanketed the area; El Chapo fled to a town, Los Michos, where he was supposed accidentally apprehended during a raid targeting some heavily armed narcos (reports that U.S. Marshals and or special ops were kibitzing at the time tend to complicate this “happy accident” narrative). There is a determined effort to minimize the angle that the capture could be attributed to any Penn-related SIGINT shenanigans:

While questions have been raised about whether electronic contacts between Guzman and actors Sean Penn and Kate del Castillo could have led police to his hideout, it was a simple tip-off that led to Friday’s arrest, according to Mike Vigil, a high-level Drug Enforcement Administration official in Mexico for 13 years who has been in contact with Mexican authorities conducting the investigation.

In passing, I would not be surprised if the aptly-named “Mr. Vigil” was not the “voice brimmed with rage” anonymous DEA agent who declared El Chapo’s days were numbered a week before.

Marcy Wheeler, the proprietor of the Empty Wheel blog and a close observer and analyst of U.S. surveillance practices, paid attention to some puzzling elements of the story and drew the conclusion that the October Penn trip was related to an enforcement effort to locate El Chapo.

Consider these details. Two men whose real names Penn doesn’t provide — one of whom Penn met with amid Enrique Peña Nieto’s security forces at a hotel in New York just before they made the final decision to take this trip — set up the meeting, playing both the role of Hollywood producer and key broker. The one he met in EPN’s hotel, Espinoza (“espinosa” translates as “spiny”), wears a “surgical corset” for his back (get it? spiny?) that somehow gets through Chapo’s extensive security unchecked.

Espinoza had recently undergone back surgery. He stretched, readjusted his surgical corset, exposing it. It dawns on me that one of our greeters might mistake the corset for a device that contains a wire, a chip, a tracker. With all their eyes on him, Espinoza methodically adjusts the Velcro toward his belly, slowly looks up, sharing his trademark smile with the suspicious eyes around him. Then, “Cirugia de espalda [back surgery],” he says. Situation defused.

Right after arriving in Chapo’s presence on what would be October 2, 2015, Espinoza goes by himself to a bungalow, purportedly to take a nap. Penn and his party stay overnight with the cartel boss. Immediately upon their departure, according to Penn’s sources, who apparently have better information than all the reporters who work this beat did last October, Mexican authorities started a siege on Chapo that was publicly explained by claiming they had geolocated the cell phone of one of his men but isn’t that a remarkable coinkydink that it actually happened immediately after Espinoza and his spiny back device showed up?

An especially remarkable coinkydink when one considers that area of Sinaloa supposedly had no cellphone coverage according to Mr. Vigil, who may have been less than vigilant in keeping the story straight in the post-capture enthusiasm:

“The meeting with Penn in October occurred in the mountainous region of Sinaloa state where there was no cellphone coverage, so they weren’t tracking him there,” Vigil said.

In a subsequent post Wheeler cites an extremely circumstantial press report that makes it clear that the Penn party was tracked and photographed during the entire October escapade, indicating that somehow law enforcement had penetrated the elaborate if amateurish opsec Penn had adopted.

Perhaps, as Marcy Wheeler believes, one or more members of Penn’s party were deploying a tracking device to pinpoint El Chapo’s location for the raid.

For what it’s worth, I tend toward the theory that Rolling Stone gave a head’s up to the government (if I were a lawyer, I think I would have suggested that incremental profits from marketing El Chapo’s story might enmesh the magazine in some kind of RICO headache; better check in with the Feds!) and the US government used this knowledge to piggyback on the operation with or without the knowledge of Rolling Stone and either hide a device in the luggage of the party or persuade one of them to carry it. I tend away from the idea of Penn as an individual taking the suicidal risk of knowingly infiltrating El Chapo’s camp to implant a tracking device because, you know, suicide.

And as to why create a media firestorm around Penn’s visit and article and at the same time alleging El Chapo was, basically, captured by accident–instead of acknowledging a successful op, well, murder. If Sean Penn is murdered in a revenge attack, it’s easier for the government if he’s portrayed as a silly dingbat in the wrong place at the wrong time, not somebody on whose back the US government painted a bull’s eye by involving him in an extremely dangerous clandestine effort.

(Republished from China Matters by permission of author or representative)
Hide 10 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. Rehmat says:

    Both War on Drugs and War on Terrorism is for the brainwashed idiots. CIA and Russian Jewish Mafia control drugs industry, while CIA-Mossad-MI6 create terrorism around the world which is mostly blamed on Muslims.

    In October 2001, America invaded, destroyed and occupied Afghanistan not for 9/11 but for drugs cultivation.

    UNODC in its several reports have claimed that Iran is the major counter in fight against drugs trafficking.

    Under Reza Shah dynasty, Iran played the transit role for opium produced in Afghanistan, India and some part of Iran and Turkey. The drug smugglers were under the protection of Shah’s Mossad-CIA trained special force, SWAK. In early 1980s, Imam Khomeini banned the cultivation of poppy and drug in Iran. Later-on USSR occupied Afghanistan and the conbined result was that drug barrons, working for the Jewish-controlled world drug empire – had to shift their capital and infrastructure to Israel and Afghanistan’s Helmand Province – which is currently controlled by British troops – has made them the best protection drug-money can buy – with an impressive 57% of the total annual opium production countrywide. But it was not the only reason why Washington needed to replace religious leadership of Mullah Omar with a pro-US secularist ruler in Kabul. The openly touted Caspian Sea oil exploitation was also to benefit Israel to a great extent. Alexander Machkevitch, born and raised in Kyrgyzstan. He is a very close friend of country’s dictator Nursultan Nazarbyev and member of many Jewish lobby groups working for Israel’s interests in Central Asia and Africa. He owns the lion-share of oil industry in the country. Machkevitch is reported to be worth US$5 billion – making him the richest Israeli-citizen outside Israel – ignoring the fact that Bernard Madoff stashed most of his US$50 billion loot in Israeli banks.

    In the early 1990s, Israeli army Lt. Colonel Yair Klein trained the paramilitary forces of the Colombian drug cartels in assassination, bombing and other covert operations. According to Israeli newspaper Yedioth Aharonoth, in 1996, Klein began a contract to provide weapons and training to Taylor’s Liberia and the RUF in Sierra Leone which controls the wealthy diamond district. Israeli intelligence uses drugs and diamond money to finance its false-flag operations around the world. When De Beers diamond empire pulled its operations out of war-torn African countries – Israel’s Lev Leviev (owned by Uzbek-born Jew billionaire) has aquired large concessions in Nambia, Sierra Leone, Congo, Ghana and several other sites. According to report released last week by Shimuel Mordechai – the world economic down-turn affected Israel’s diamond export too. It was worth US$3.92 billion in 2009 as compared to US$6.24 billion in 2008. I suppose, Tel Aviv need to ask Obama for a bailout as he did for Zionist-occupied Wall Street.

  2. CK says:

    I thought that Sean Penn was Hollywood’s in residence Haiti person. Which position has not added to his importance to the world.

  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Sean Penn is just a deep cover agent. In addition to nabbing el Chapo, he also gave Hugo Chavez cervical cancer by spiking his Shirley Temple with HPV during his interview. This man has brought down two of South America’s greatest criminals. We all owe him a debt of gratitude.

  4. to bigfoot the Penn interview by reporting it

    What the heck does that mean? “To bigfoot [something] by reporting it”?

  5. Sean says:

    The CIA hid a tracking device on Terry Waite (hidden in his hair) in Lebanon. The leader of Peru’s Shining Path was captured after meeting with foreign journalists. The original leader of the Chechen independence was killed by the Russians after they homed on on his phone while he talked to a foreign journalist .

  6. Damned good reporting, really top flight. I loved how multiple incidents were tied together and the writer of this article clearly identified what he knew, how he knew it, and what was merely speculation. Sean Penn and the Mexican actresses have been tossed to the wolves by the Mexican government by how they simply gave them partial credit for El Chapo’s capture.

    Cell phone monitoring has become crucial, absolutely crucial, in fighting local crime as well as international terrorism.

    Sean Penn needs a long vacation far far away, and leave his cell phone behind. Acting can wait, priorities like taking your next breath come first. That Sinaloa drug cartel is massive and insanely vicious. El Chapo owns submarines! Sean Penn can’t even hide in the ocean.

  7. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:

    “Did the DEA hijack Sean Penn’s expedition to El Chapo’s lair in order to implant a tracking device?”

    Wow, sounds like NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN.

    In this age of NSA and all sorts of intelligence services with electronic powers undreamed of in the past, all sorts of conspiracies and counter-conspiracies are possible.

    I think the world is more dangerous than ever because of the overpowering penetration of Zio-homo-globalism.

    There is no more balance in the world.

    During the COLD WAR, there was the US, Europe, USSR and its empire, and the Third World.

    Europe under leaders like DeGaulle had a measure of national sovereignty. And Germans based on nationality on blood. Though post-WWII Germany turned liberal, much of German society still remained conservative and patriotic, in habit and outlook if not so much in official ideology.
    And UK still saw itself as a sort of semi-major player. Though closely allied with the US, it had its independent foreign policy and often made peace and forged relations with nations regarded as enemies by the US. (Of course, one could argue that UK was playing scout for the US.)
    During the Cold War, as the Third World could lean to the US or the USSR, it developed its own autonomy. North Vietnam could rely on Russia and China to back it against the US. Cuba was backed by the USSR.
    Because of the USSR, US didn’t dare to get too aggressive or pushy with the Third World.

    Furthermore, there was a division of power among many groups in the US.
    Wasp elites had their prestige and power. They didn’t cuck themselves out to Jews in the past. So, even as Jewish power was growing, there was the formidable Wasp power. There was also Southern White power. There was also Big Labor. There was also cultural power of Conservatives. American Catholics had power. There was local community power centered around small town values and churches. There was also various ethnic power as Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, Polish-Americans, and etc maintained their identities somewhat. And there was black power.

    But the ONLY power in the US today is Jewish power(and homo power cuz it’s so closely allied with Jewish power).


    Wasps began to fade and cuck out to Jews. With Jewish control of academia and media, the Narratives changed to fill Wasps with historical guilt of ‘racism’, and this put southern white power on the ropes too.
    Also, as Wasps are racially the same as Germans, they too got blamed for antisemitism that led to the Holocaust. Today, there are still many rich and privileged Wasps. But in moral-thematics, they(just like the Germans) have been made to feel racial, moral, and historical shame. So, there is a lack of confidence and total obeisance to the Jews.

    Big Labor faded with the rise of globalism. As labor unions weakened through corruption and globalism(and immigration), it was no longer a major player in US politics. And as Jews got richer and richer, they were far less interested in the blue collar working man. Jews came to see Big Labor as a hindrance. Notice how Las Vegas went from being controlled by Big Labor and mafia to Jews in Wall Street(or at least according to Scorsese’s CASINO).

    Unlike Jews, most white ethnic-groups lost their sense of identity and historical heritage. They just became ‘generic Americans’ defined by consumerism, hedonism, Hollywood, and pop music.

    If Irish-Americans, Polish-Americans, Italian-Americans, and etc could hold their own against the dominant national power(Wasp or Jewish) in the past, no such resistance or communal unity exists among white ethnic groups.
    It’s the Corleones had a sense of Italian identity, but Jersey Shore freaks have no culture whatsoever.

    Also, when Jews marry non-Jews, the kids are raised as Jews.
    But when white ethnics marry other white ethnics, they just become ‘bland Americans’.

    As for Catholic power, it pretty much vanished in the US due to scandals, homos taking over priesthood, and loss of ethnic identity. There was a time when to be Irish-American, Polish-American, or Italian-American meant to be Catholic. Religion and ethnicity were tied together. But once ethnic identity faded, so did the religious connection. Catholic power is a mere shell of itself.

    And as big media penetrated into every small town via satellite and internet, there is precious little difference between Hollywood values and small town values. Trash dominates everywhere. Even country music got pretty whore-ish.
    So, Jewish-controlled Hollywood and MTV totally dominate.
    Reagan appealed to small town ‘morning in America’. Today, there is just tattoos and meth in small town America.

    Also, US used to be the manufacturing giant of the world, and it was in this field that Wasps and working class ethnics had the most power. But with media, gambling, vice industries, Hollywood, high-tech, and etc. becoming the biggest players in America — and since all such industries are controlled by Jews — and with ‘free trade’ having hollowed out US manufacturing , Jews have totally taken over the economy of the US. Notice that Hillary’s top ten donors are all Jewish. The media are Jewish. Wall Street is heavily Jewish. Ivy League is dominated by Jews, and students come under Jewish-controlled PC. Indeed, Jewish power is so overwhelming that some in the academia are trying to resist it with stuff like BDS — if it is still taboo to discuss Jewish power in the US, at least discuss it in relation to Palestinians who still live under Zionist occupation.

    And with globalism, US has come to dominate the world. Even China depends far more on the US than the other way around.
    Also, Jews have their agents, Jewish or homo or cuckish collaborators, all over the world in Russia, EU, Japan, Hong Kong, Mexico City, Buenos Aires, South Africa, and etc. George Soros and his ilk truly play an ethno-globalist game.

    Blacks have some moral capital in the US due to slavery and civil rights narrative, but Jews have conveniently controlled them too. Jewish promotion of homos made blacks secondary to the ‘progressive’ movement. Today, we are just as likely to hear of blacks being accused of ‘homophobia’ than whites being accused of ‘racism’.
    Even BDS has become aligned with the homo movement; it is nutty since the homo movement was nurtured precisely to send black issues to the back of the bus.
    As for homos, they are so vain and narcissistic that they will serve ANYONE who showers them with the most prizes, and Jews indeed pay them well for serving as their agents of globalism. Homos serve Jews like the homo guy serves Gene Hackman in NO WAY OUT.

    Also, as black culture has become so childish and retarded, with most black kids having no historical sense and immersed in rap culture, the black community has become politically fractured and weak.

    Jews totally control the US, and US totally dominates the world. We are living in a Jewish-Homo or Jomo Empire.

    Now, some might say that people are cooking up ‘conspiracy theories’ about what may have happened with Sean Penn and Chapocabra. They may or may not be right.

    But the main value of conspiracy theories isn’t so much in validating the theory as in finding lots of other interesting stuff along the way. It’s like missing the bull’s eye but hitting the rest of the target.
    It’s like searching for the Holy Grail and finding lots of things along the way even if the HG is never found.
    It’s like searching for gold and finding lots of stuff about the geology of a certain place even if gold is never found.

    It’s like the book about Johnson killing Kennedy by Roger Stone.

    I don’t believe it. I’m one of those people who believe Lee Harvey Oswald did it.
    So, why is Roger Stone’s book still valuable? Because in his research on the dark side of Johnson(to prove his guilt in killing Kennedy), Stone provides us with lots of interesting details about Johnson and his character.

    It’s like Columbus went off to find India but found the Americas instead. It was both a failure and success. His ‘discovery theory’ was way off. He didn’t discover any new route to India but discovered a whole new continent.
    Same goes for ‘conspiracy theories’. Few of them may be proved right, but most of them are useless, even crazy. But when pursued by people with some degree of intelligence and investigative skills — and imagination — , it may come upon matters of interest.

    Take the conspiracy theories about the death of Kennedy. None of them conclusively proved anything. But because of those theories, we got to know much more about the darker underbelly of American politics, crime, and intelligence services. If Kennedy hadn’t been killed, few people would have looked into this. Or if his assassination could have been proven without a doubt that a lone gun-man did it — like Hinckley was certainly the trigger puller on Reagan — , there would have been no conspiracy theories.

    But because the circumstances were murky, a whole bunch of conspiracy theories few like mushrooms, and it led to investigations into the CIA, FBI, USSR, Russian embassy in Mexico, Mafia, Cuba, and etc. We didn’t find the ‘Rosebud’, but we sure learned a lot about US government, underworld crime, para-political organizations, far-right groups, and etc.
    It’s like, in CITIZEN KANE, the reporter never finds out about the meaning of Rosebud, but he sure learned a lot of interesting stuff about Kane along the way.
    So, even if ‘conspiracy theories’ usually don’t reveal what ‘rosebud’ is, the search for ‘rosebud’ may come upon many facts and details that no one might have known if not for search inspired by the conspiracy theory. The Kennedy conspiracy theory also inspired a whole genre of entertainment. Even THE GODFATHER is informed by it, along with other ‘paranoid’ films of the 1970s.

    And of course, there was Oliver Stone’s JFK. Though Stone hardly proved that Oswald was a patsy or that far-right elements in the government brought down Camelot, his obsession did take us into the darker belly of the beast of American power.
    Conspiracy theory is like hypochondria, or politichondria.

    A hypochondriac, in his delusions, will never find the disease in his body since he isn’t sick(at least with the disease he is looking for; if anything, he is sick in his obsessive search for a non-existing sickness, but he is utterly blind to this sickness that considers himself sick when he is not). But his Kafkaesque state of mind will make him do all sorts of research, and along the way, he will learn a lot about his body and diseases. It’s like religion is a sort of a cosmic hypochrondria or cosmochondria. In our search for non-existent God or some Higher Being and in our fear of Satan or dark forces, we end up thinking about all sorts of things and come up with religions, mythology, legends, values, meanings, and etc that enrich our culture and lives.

    In many cases, life is less about attaining what you set out to find than about having what you found along the way. It’s like George Bailey in IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE. Only in the egotistical Ayn-Rand universe does the hero somehow get everything he set out to find.

    Incidentally, even though Oliver Stone’s JFK is not without interest, I think he blew it by turning conspiracy theorizing into conspiracy hyperventilating. It is so over-the-top that that it’s not so much a case of a counter-myth against the official myth but of a neo-myth against the official myth. There is too much an air of certainly in JFK.

    Also, conspiracy theorizing is about entering in a world of shadows and ambiguities. This trip would have been more interesting if Jim Garrison of Stone’s movie had been presented as a flawed character than a Capra-esque hero of the common man. A sinner and liar seeking a measure of redemption and truth in a world of sinners and liars.

    If the whole point of conspiracy theorizing is the belief that reality is far more complex than the simple cops-and-robbers version presented by the government and media, then how does it serve Stone’s argument to present a world of simple GOOD(Garrison and his selfless idealistic crew) versus simple EVIL?
    It merely replaces one Manichean view of the world with another.
    But then, I guess for box office purposes, Stone had to go for good guy vs bad guy formula.
    After all, the shadowy NIXON, possibly Stone’s masterpiece, eschews heroes and villains and it bombed at the box office.
    NIXON presents a world where everyone is compromised and corrupted but not without their own sense of honor and professional or ideological integrity(however twisted it may be). Even the loathsome Howard Hunt character has his justification.
    It’s a world of black and grey than black and white. So, power exists in nuances and paradoxes than in simple dichotomies of good vs evil. It is more difficult but then also more challenging to distinguish the grey from the black than white from black.
    Power is always about grey and black, never about white and black.

    Anyway, because conspiracy theories tend to make people a bit nuts and obsessed, maybe it’s better to develop a new mind-set called the conspiracy GAME.
    This way, we play conspiracy theory as a game than as an article of faith.
    It’s like we don’t have to believe in God or gods in order to mind-experiment about spiritual, cosmic, and etc matters. After all, that is what speculative fiction or intellectual sci-fi is all about.

    Indeed, the core of conspiracy theorizing(as generally practiced) is self-defeating because the theorist says the truth is a lot murkier and slipperier than the official truth but then claims to be SO SURE ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
    But if truth is so opaque and dark, how could anyone be SO SURE what really happened?
    So, it’s better to play conspiracy ideas as a game than some obsessive theory that is so cocksure of what REALLY happened or is happening.
    That way, we can find interesting stuff along the way as we ponder possibilities of conspiracy while, at the same time, maintaining our rationality, skepticism, and sanity.

    It’s good for for Paul Craig Roberts to suspect the government is lying about lots of things, but then he is so cocksure about what happened on 9/11.

    Better to play the game than believe the theory.

  8. Clyde says:

    Not much consideration in the popular press, since US journos generally seem obsessed with the idea of knocking down the Penn interview on ethical, journalistic, and stylistic grounds.

    Because he didn’t blow 100,000 plus going to J-School. Jealousy.

  9. Pepe says:

    You say “Los Michos,” I say Los Mochis – let’s call the whole thing off.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  10. @Pepe

    You say “Los Michos,” I say Los Mochis – let’s call the whole thing off.

    Hold on a minute! I like mochi too, especially mochi ice cream. Let’s not call it off! 😉

Current Commenter

Leave a Reply - Comments on articles more than two weeks old will be judged much more strictly on quality and tone

 Remember My InformationWhy?
 Email Replies to my Comment
Submitted comments have been licensed to The Unz Review and may be republished elsewhere at the sole discretion of the latter
Commenting Disabled While in Translation Mode
Subscribe to This Comment Thread via RSS Subscribe to All Peter Lee Comments via RSS
Analyzing the History of a Controversial Movement
The JFK Assassination and the 9/11 Attacks?
Becker update V1.3.2